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Title: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: admin on August 16, 2005, 05:04:27 AM
This is the new home of IBFC discussion. Welcome aboard, everyone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 16, 2005, 09:32:24 AM
Pongo-

Sorry about the delay-BU has a great complex, you missed my point about about sky boxes. No big deal.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on August 17, 2005, 12:42:27 AM
I must have missed it...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2005, 08:49:35 AM
  Hey Guys, what do you think of the "new" set-up?
   What happened to the paper trail?  Did i miss something?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: eaglesnest on August 17, 2005, 10:01:54 AM
Well everyone has been in camp for 3 or 4 days what is the hottest topic....................how do the eagles look
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 19, 2005, 01:30:05 PM
Hello !! anyone out there? - Season starts in 16 days. Anyone got any idea why the majority of IBFC season previews are AWOL?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 19, 2005, 01:59:01 PM
I was checking the IBC rosters- so far only Con(W) & Eureka have '05 teams. Con(W) doesn't list Ht., Wt., or Yr. of players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: doughboy69 on August 19, 2005, 07:46:25 PM
Sorry I missed the skybox conversation with BU. Looks like it's gone forever. What were people saying about it?

On another note, are any IBC teams scrimmaging each other this preseason?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 19, 2005, 10:48:42 PM
I dont think there are any teams in the conference scrimmaging one another... Mac and LC are playing top 25 teams what do you guys think the outcome will be?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: night_train92 on August 20, 2005, 01:40:59 AM
AUFB AU's will be out after this saturday I would think.  They usually get everyone's info, pictures and stuff like that before the blue/white scrimage.

micro,  I hope that both teams do well against the teams in the top 25.  I believe both teams have a good chance of beating the teams they are playing against.  Hopefully after that the IBC will get some R E S P E C T!!!!!!!

Good luck to everyone's team
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 20, 2005, 10:33:13 AM
Night Train-

I with you. Not just Lake and Mac need to do well in non-conference action, but the whole IBFC as well.

Pat-

How come I have post 39 twice?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2005, 11:52:02 AM
The posts don't number individually anymore.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2005, 11:53:18 AM
By the way, I should make a pitch for the Kickoff for those who are looking for IBFC information. We definitely have every team covered. I talked to all eight head coaches myself.

http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 21, 2005, 10:14:14 PM
Hey guys just checking in.....I went out and watched the MAC scrimmage today at Freesen Field.. They are looking better than the 2002 team.. the offense is VERY powerful as always and the defense is magnificant.. The new D-coordinator has put together a "goon" squad!! The best of luck to the highlanders this year... Has anyone else been to watch any other IBFC scrimmages??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on August 23, 2005, 10:14:09 AM
Unfortunatly I can't go but on Thursday, Greenville is going to scrimmage Blackburn.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 23, 2005, 11:18:44 AM
GC-Fan

When where and what time for the GC- Blackburn Scrimmage?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on August 23, 2005, 03:49:04 PM
According to the Greenville website, the Greenville/Blackburn scrimmage is this Thursday 8/25 at 5:00 p.m. in Greenville.  My guess is that it would be at the game field
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 24, 2005, 08:31:01 PM
Did you guys here the news about the O-lineman from Illinois Weslyan? Mac scrimmages them on saturday... Thats really sad to hear that he had a heatstroke and is not doing to well.....I hope he fights through that!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 25, 2005, 03:31:43 PM
If I am speaking out of turn someone let me know-

I  want the Schmied family and the IWU community to know that our prayers and condolences go out to them. Although I didn't know Doug Schmied, I know that College football is to small of a place to loss a player, a son and a friend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 26, 2005, 09:29:14 AM
Well Said AU FB05... I am deeply sadden that this has happened to a yonug wonderful man... Hearing from the IW community he was well known and well respected. I send my regards to the family and friends... God Bless!!
Title: Luther/Lakeland Scrimmage
Post by: maddog8 on August 28, 2005, 01:28:46 AM
D one pleasure meeting you today your squad looks well rounded. best of luck to you and your team Luther. Good scrimmage.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 29, 2005, 07:22:23 PM
Da One, watching the scrimage number 55 linebacker Dylan Syse how good is he and where is he on the dept chart? looked very good sat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on August 30, 2005, 12:53:52 PM
MD
Your son his very good.  Hope he can get some help from the WR (except the AU game, HA HA).  Dylan is a a solid LB, I think he is our 3 MLB. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 30, 2005, 03:00:35 PM
D thanks for the compliment, I think Lakeland will be ready for Northwestern on Sat. Thanks to the Luther scrimage.  Again good luck on your season and hopefully you can make it up for the AU/Lakeland game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 30, 2005, 03:37:16 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on August 30, 2005, 03:00:35 PM
D thanks for the compliment, I think Lakeland will be ready for Northwestern on Sat. Thanks to the Luther scrimage.  Again good luck on your season and hopefully you can make it up for the AU/Lakeland game.
  Maddog: I sure hope your ready with all those 6 year seniors. 
   Just kidding!    ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 30, 2005, 04:15:38 PM
D III   Massey   Laz   SCHOOL
67   100   60   Lakeland
101   93   91   Concordia WI
102   92   96   Aurora
121   139   152   MacMurry
214   201   195   Greenville
215   203   199   Eureka
229   215   210   Concordia IL
209   212   212   Benedictine IL

Rankings for the IBFC out of a possible 231
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 30, 2005, 05:50:41 PM
GiJoe, (lol) it would be nice to have 6th yr seniors, lets hope we can do it with the 5th yr guys. AUFB05 like the ranking post. I think the IBFC has four very srtong teams which can do some damage in the preseason/non-conference games. Hopefully that will bring some recognition to the IBFC ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 30, 2005, 06:31:49 PM
Maddog-

I'm hoping there is some serious damage done to non-conference teams-some tough schedules though.

what happen to just plain Maddog? is 8 your sons #?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BashBacker#16 on August 30, 2005, 06:59:23 PM
Wheaton followers,

Looking forward to a quality scimmage this Saturday vs. Wabash.  Should be a good test for both squads.  I'd guess both teams will have some questions answered.  What should we expect to see as strengths and weaknesses?  I'd hope you will see (from Wabash) a very tough defense (great LB corps, solid front), talented/athletic WRs, and a good O-line.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 30, 2005, 10:27:50 PM
what happen is this site would not let me use it again so yes I used my sons number to get my maddog name back sorry for the confusion
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 30, 2005, 10:32:33 PM
I do think that the IBFC will have a solid record coming out of the non- conference games. I am also confident that Carthage #13 and Whitewater  #21 will go down in defeat. I am that confident. I am confident that Mac will upset Wooster. Look for CUW to have a better percentage than last year and AU should clearly win their first 2 non-conference games BUT Valpo may be trouble. I still will take AU hands down. Should be a great season if I am half correct!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: night_train92 on August 31, 2005, 02:42:21 AM
First off I want to say good luck to every IBC team in the non-conference games!!!  There is a lot of respect to be won.

Second, I think that Lakeland and Mac can gain a lot of respect for the conference form the non-conference games that they play.  Both teams play top 25 teams that they can beat.(Lakeland 2 of which are great teams)  Not saying other teams don't

I know last year Valpo kids were assholes to us and I hope that AU can go in there and show them what D3 football is all about.  From seeing a little bit of practice I know coach Duncan has them on the right page
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 31, 2005, 09:56:54 AM
night train-

I watched AU scrimmage with Loras last Sat. I have to say I was impressed. What a difference a year makes (if anyone remembers the scrimmage they had with Loras a year ago you know what I'm talking about). The D was the most impressive. There are of new faces on the D that make up for any lose of last years outgoing seniors. One D-line freshmen in particular was outstanding. The O looked alright, Hornung hasn't lost his ability to air it out or scramble when he needs to. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 31, 2005, 10:19:04 AM
maddog-

AU plays its 2nd non-conference at Alma. I don't expext it to be a walk in the park. It will be a good tune up for Oct. 29th.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 31, 2005, 10:48:20 AM
pat coleman-

just re-viewed "kickoff", what an outstanding job you guys did - it was worth more than i paid for it. the rest of the board needs to give up $8.95 (unless your a student) and see for yourselfs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 31, 2005, 01:50:06 PM
I agree with AUFB05 give up the 8+ dollars well worth it. Great info on all teams!

Night Train are we on for Dinner when AU comes to Lakeland, are you driving G-man back to campus let me know, thanks.


Alma is close by me and I do believe that AU will beat them they lost alot of key players.  KEY SCOUT REPORT---STOP THEIR RUNNING ATTACK!!!!! you will win
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: night_train92 on August 31, 2005, 04:00:05 PM
I haven't got a chance to talk with Vargas yet.  I haven't seen him around campus.  I will be up there so if he wants to ride up there with me that would be great.  I know a couple of other players are going to ride up there with me as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 31, 2005, 09:30:10 PM
Thanks, aufb and maddog. I enjoyed getting to talk to all of the coaches in the league and learn about some schools that I don't know as much about.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 01, 2005, 09:43:55 AM
Pat Coleman-

Are there any D3 programs effected by Katrina?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2005, 10:50:04 AM
Millsaps and Mississippi College each delayed their season openers. I don't know much more about how the campuses were affected or anything.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on September 01, 2005, 08:18:54 PM
I read a whole lot on this site about some well deserving teams, that is good.  Now how about a few words about another well deserving team that is having a rough time lately. GO CURF!!!!  I am sure the coaching changes will be a positive for the team. I also hope that the coaches that left for other opportunities also find success in their new positions.  Whatever the future brings - ROLL COUGERS :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 02, 2005, 03:28:26 PM
Predictions-

Lakeland    over   NW(Minn)
AU              over   Cornell
Eureka        over   Rockford
Con (Wisc)  over   Monmouth
Wooster      over   MacMurray
Trinity I       over    Greenville
Elmhurst     over    Benedictine
Loras          over   Con (IL)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 03, 2005, 11:49:05 PM
Maddog-

It was good to see Lake with a W, because it was a long day for the rest of us.

Ok here goes. AU 14 - Cornell 21

AU Offensive player of the game - Travis Paro RB, 124 yds. rushing
AU Defensive player of the game - Kyle Dentino DL, 10 tackles

Honorable Mentions:
Nate Ficham TE, TD
Troy Blazer WR, TD
Randy Moser DL and Kyle Simmons DL 6 tackles each
Nick Paxson FB, 3 traps for 26 yds.
Drew Hornung QB, 2 passing TD
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 04, 2005, 01:55:27 AM
It was almost a long day for Lakeland and its fans too. Northwestern gave the Muskies a hell of a game till LC blew it open with three 4th quarter TDs. The defense looked a little suspect at times but four D starters sat and a few should be returning next week when they go down to Carthage.

The offense finally got in rhythm in the 4th when the penalties finally ceased. It seemed like every big play got called back. Hopefully they can keep that up next week.

I'll tell you who looked good though: Ryan Van De Loo. I gotta give that guy props even though he started last year, Scharinger was the heart and soul of that defense, but it looks like its still in good hands. Can't go wrong with 10.5 tackles, 4 for loss, and a key fourth down pass deflection. Seemed like whenever the defense needed a big play he stepped up. That's what makes a player.

Nothing wrong with the running game, either with 3 players topping 90 yards.

Looks like Carthage got quite a scare too...14-10 over Carroll (3-7 last year). Carthage scored only one TD in that game and scored the rest of their points on two field goals and a safety. Should be a very interesting game in Kenosha next week. I know I'll be there!

I hope things pick up for the rest of the IBC for the next couple non-conference games. We need to show the nation what we're made of up here.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 04, 2005, 02:02:26 AM
Big Uns, do you know why Marcus Denham did not play for Lakeland?  He was listed on the pre-season roster.

I had him in the Fantasy League...bummer, bummer . :(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 05, 2005, 01:45:31 PM
Well they actually switched him to cornerback because there was a log jam at halfback (made apparent by having nearly 3 people rush for 100 yards last week). He was on the sidelines in street clothes on Saturday and I have no idea why. I wouldn't expect him to be out long, but I'm pretty sure defenders don't gain too many points in FFLs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Longtooth on September 05, 2005, 09:46:27 PM
That;s a great move
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 06, 2005, 01:20:46 PM
Marcus is out for a good reason hopefully he will be back sometime soon this yr. I will leave it at that.  I agree with Big Uns Lakeland didn't play well but then again it was the first game. There first drive went 88 yrs for a TD in 8 plays. Big test this weekend against Carthage. Go Muskies!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 06, 2005, 03:38:31 PM
Maddog-

My recommendations for all-maddog team week one are on pg.3, I missed an at-a-boy for Brent Baker OLB, 7 tackles.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 06, 2005, 07:35:08 PM
Thanks AUFB05 anyone else have recs for the week. I have Maiuri At QB, Arron Berry at RB Ryan Van Doo Loo LB ( Outstanding day) Sam S. WHO? David Benton DL and the ENTIRE MUSKIE O-LINE (SUPERB)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 07, 2005, 11:04:38 AM
I would agree on the O-Line. Simply cannot argue with 346 yards rushing and ZERO sacks allowed. It will be interesting to see if they can keep that going, last year they only gained 48 yards on the ground against the Redmen. I'm not sure what exactly is going on behind center for the Redmen, but I read the box score and they started Sharp but he went 0-8 and then they went to a freshman. Not sure if Sharp got injured or if there's a QB battle going on. Lakeland should be able to get some pressure on whoever is back there, hopefully force some turnovers like they did last year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 07, 2005, 01:10:29 PM
I hope the Muskies kick the snot out of Carthage.  The freshman QB was pretty good in high school and stepped right in last week and did well.  The Muskies are going to have to find a way to put up some points on the Redmen defense.  That will be the challenge.  Keep their offense off the field and figure out how to keep the offense on the move.  Go MUSKIES!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 07, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
I had a question about the AU vs. Cornell game.  What was the deal with Hornung?  He was 8 of 22-3 with only 68 yards passing?  Was Cornell disguising defenses, WR dropping passes, or is expected with the change of systems?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 07, 2005, 02:14:23 PM
Yes, Carthage will be a tough foe, BUT I think if the Muskies show up ready like I know coach "Z" will have them, LOOK OUT. This is the IBFC dream to take down top ranked teams.  This team has something to prove to themselves and the nation. Look for a close game until half then I think Lakeland will open it up. The key is keeping there STINGY DEFENSE on the field. I personally am not worried about there offense, withour Franz and Washington, well lets just say they haven't played the Muskies defense and Ryan Van Doo Loo. as for Carthages Defense, well they are second to none. top notch. Thats where the battle will be Lakelands Offense against Carthges Defense. Lakeland 34/Carthage 6
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 07, 2005, 02:29:46 PM
Hey maddog, I'm with you and think that Lakeland will win but it's going to be closer than that.  I'm thinking 14-10!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 07, 2005, 04:19:23 PM
Southfan-

Hornung and his team are working their way through a new system. A key penalty and a few mental errors was the difference in that game. AU lost it, Cornell didn't win it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2005, 05:10:49 PM
I doubt Carthage is going to drop as many TD passes as it did against Carroll last week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on September 07, 2005, 10:32:14 PM
LC plays carthage and MAC plays at Wooster.. Two IBFC teams are about to knock off some top 25 teams this weekend.. I think Mac will suprize the Scots this weekend and LC will beat Carthage in overtime.. any other IBFC teams play any one worth while this weekend???

GO IBFC!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 08, 2005, 09:43:01 AM
Micro-

AU plays Alma (ranked #40 by DIII) at Alma. After last week, I'm not making a predicition. I think AU has a key position at RB coming back off an injury. Paro did a nice job last week but his #2 didn't play due to the injury. The FB did a nice job on traps (3 for 29) but they use the position mostly for blocking. The #3 RB sputtered for about 22 yds. I'm a fan of Hornung, if he hits his stride Alma is in for a long day. Defensively, AU's LB & Sr Capt. is out with an injury. Last week his replacement did some nice things but still has some catching up to do. I feel good about Saturday, but like I said no predictions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 08, 2005, 11:36:40 AM
Greenville is at Trinity International University in Deerfield on Saturday.  Trinity is ranked #16 in NAIA.  It should be an interesting match up because the new Greenville Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator were on the Trinity staff last year.  In addition 2 other Greenville assistants played for Trinity.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 08, 2005, 01:43:04 PM
Does any one know who was IBFC players of the week?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 08, 2005, 05:51:16 PM
Just found out QB Ryan Maiuri Lakeland Offense, and Ryan Van Doo Loo LB, Lakeland for Defense Players of the week
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 08, 2005, 07:45:21 PM
Maddog-

Judging by what everyone did last week I say those where good choices. Hopefully the other half of the IBC will begin to claim some of that glory.

By the way proud papa who selects the POWs
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 10, 2005, 02:11:51 PM
 wooster up 17-0 on Mac.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 02:49:59 PM
Trinity International Beating Greenville 19-0 at the end of the 1st quarter
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 03:30:39 PM
At the Half - Trinity International #16 (NAIA) is beating Greenville 19 to 9
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 10, 2005, 03:54:42 PM
Wooster  37................Mac 0.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 04:18:35 PM
At the end of 3, Trinity 19 - Greenville 11
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 04:33:59 PM
8 min to go in regulation, Trinity 19 - Greenville 17
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 04:55:28 PM
Final Score - Trinity 26 - Greenville 17
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 11, 2005, 11:23:38 AM
Maddog-

AU POW for 9/10

After a very discouraging afternoon, AU limped home after losing to Ama 48-12.

AU OPW - QB Hornung, 14 of 19 for 140 yds.
AU DPW - SS Spear, 45 yd. interception for a TD

To date:
IBC (PF) 185  -  Non-Coference Teams 471 - So much for respect this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 11, 2005, 12:32:40 PM
Maddog - I did not "sign up" to help with your team from Greenville but I listened to the game on the radio yesterday......

Russell Reese - Defensive End had 2 sacks
Reggie Anthony - Punter - at least 2 punts inside the 20
Bryson Taylor - Wide Receiver - touchdown plus some good kickoff and punt returns
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 11, 2005, 06:56:53 PM
Thanks for your selections, Well what a game both teams fought like worriors. I will say the final should have been LC 16 Carthage 13. Yes Carthage won but the officiating was horrible to say the least in the final quarter. The calls were very bias and it showed they were cciw officials. Again both teams played well just wish the officials would have stayed out of it. If Carthage is 13th then Lakeland is definately in the top 25. WHAT A GAME. Great fireworks at half time.Excellent facility. POW-Arron Berry-Offense and Nick Zeck- defense
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 12, 2005, 09:34:47 AM
Congratulations to Lakeland on a hard fought game.  I wish they would have pulled out the victory but it just didn't happen.  Don't worry maddog cause Carthage will come crashing down of its #13 ranking once they start CCIW play.  I really hope North Park gets them! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 12, 2005, 10:30:38 AM
I'm puzzled to who is going to win the IBC this year based off of the non conference schedule?!  Aurora started out the same way last year but I don't think the same thing is going to happen with the new staff there.  They are struggling offensively!  I don't know about Concordia either?  My money is going on Lakeland to win the conference outright!!! None of this three-way tie s**t.  Go Muskies!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on September 12, 2005, 11:22:10 AM
South fan Im with you.. Who is going to win the IBFC this year based off Non conference schedule.. doesnt look to good for anyone. LC loses a close one to Carthage...MAC gets beat by Wooster.. MAC's offense could not by a good series... It was very unknown if the load could be carried by Ereg and Mike Schmidtke (QB).. The defense was on the field 80% of the time. Is this an indication of the 2003 season when MAC's offense was horrible??? I guess we will find out huh? Wonder whats going to happen when they go to Tri-State this weekend?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 12, 2005, 11:43:31 AM
I agree Lakeland all the way. Again Lakeland pysically beat Carthage, THE OFFICIALS GAVE THAT GAME TO CARTHAGE. Our Lord Jesus Christ could not have won that game the offucials would NOT let it happen.  We have Whitewater at home next week. Time will tell
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: markdamaker40 on September 12, 2005, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on September 12, 2005, 11:43:31 AM
I agree Lakeland all the way. Again Lakeland pysically beat Carthage, THE OFFICIALS GAVE THAT GAME TO CARTHAGE. Our Lord Jesus Christ could not have won that game the offucials would NOT let it happen.  We have Whitewater at home next week. Time will tell

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.  THE QB HAD NO IDEA WHAT HIT HIM.  The Defense held them to 52 yards rushing on 30 attempts when they average over 300. The Qb #8 was 13 for 38 passing for 148 and 2 picks NO TD's, he rushed 17 times for 38 yards.  Carthage needed to shut him down and they ended up derailing him. The ref's can not control cashing in on 5 turnovers. Plus you mention Barrie as player of the week he had 5 carries for 5 YARDS are you kidding me how can a player of the week have that kind of game.  Carthage made them one demensional and when you do that you win football games I don't care who you are.  That Qb has got to be having nightmares from all of the blitzing and the pounding that he took. There were many times where he could barely even walk to the sidelines. Lakeland is mad because they consider themselves under rated and this was THEIR ONLY CHANCE to prove the nation wrong and they couldn't do it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 12, 2005, 07:50:46 PM
What Marker or Markermark what ever, Your right he did not knew what hit him because the plays were over, maybe that is why they were flagged what 8 times for ruffing the passer, more like some cheap shot. besides I asure you YOU could not have with standed half the punishment he took. Besides for there coach to e-mail me personnally talking how the D-Coord kept saying what does it take to get him out, say alot for the QB. Further jackass, lets talk about the refs, uncatchable balls, Lakeland flagged when the ball WENT THRU THE UPRIGHTS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO OF BEEN 16'8" WITH A 52 IN VERTICAL JUMP TO EVEN HAVE A CHANCE IN HELL TO CATCH THAT BALL. SECOND, WHEN DOES THE NCAA PUT THE BALL ON THE ONE YARD LINE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A 15 YRD WALK OFF, JUST MAYBE BECAUSE CARTHAGE WOULD NOT HAVE SCORED HAD THE BALL BEEN WALKED OFF 15 YRDS, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO STILL GO 26 YRDS AND THEY TOO COULD NOT MOVE THE BALL. Now having said my pease IF you were at the game YOU know what I am talking about. Please take nothing away from Carthage they fought hard minus the late hits on the QB. Also yes Barrie ran very hard, actually I'm sure he would run over a putts like you. Beside I think I probably have forgoten more about football than you know!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 12, 2005, 08:00:02 PM
Oh and one more thing Mark on this Marker, The QB does get dazzeled by those hits that why he got up after everyone of those hits. As for showing the NATION well we did show the NATION because being unranked and barely losing to the what 13 ranked team, and punishing the 13th ranked team LET THE NATION BEWARE WERE FOR REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 12, 2005, 08:01:25 PM
MY BAG THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOES'NOT GET DAZZALED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: markdamaker40 on September 12, 2005, 09:11:27 PM
Wow, Mad dog got a little mad, just like a typical Lakeland guy to bitch and moan when things don't go his way.  Ohh so the Qb is your son, I would be mad too if my son took a beating like that. Second I was at the game I believe there were only 2 penalties for roughing the passer not 8. The reason I know its not 8 cause in the stats that are posted on the web for ALL TO SEE it says 5 penalities for 40 yards. Last time I checked a roughing the passer penalty was 15. Unless that was a new rule change that I am unaware of.  If Barrie can run through a brick wall which is basically what you are trying to say to me why didn't they go to him more instead of 5 times.  That to me is not showing a lot of faith in your "Player of the Week." 

Now seriously though Lakeland is a tough team they will give teams trouble down the road but after this next week if they don't win the rest of their games, taking injuries out of there, that is horrible.  Had it not been for Lakeland going deep on a 3rd and 4 against Northwestern with about 2 minutes left in the game their first game score would have been 20-15 wow that almost looks like the score Carthage just beat you by.

Again though take nothing away from Lakeland just when plays needed to be made they didn't make them and the fact that their 300 pound linemen are holding like the defensive linemen are candy bars doesn't mean the refs lost you the game.

Period.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2005, 09:20:29 AM
Maddog8:  Just looked at the game stats.
  Did lakeland have a punt blocked and returned for a TD?  If i`m wrong, my apologies.
  I`ve read your comments and i see the vigor but
  it`s early in the season so proceed with candor
  and don`t be so quick to take the bait. We both know "facts" are indisputable and B/S and opinions
   are debatable and referee`s are at every game
   as unbiased (?) rules  enforcers. You have left your self open  to a whole lot of "jaw-boning"
   from this forum but you already know that remember last year?
   Having a family member playing at LC and with the with the anticipation of a possible Conference Championship at hand and maybe a play-off game
  the stakes are high. That being said,  when you stick to the facts ( like-um or not)  your comments are  beyond reproach.  In the past you`ve been
  thoughtful and fair in your comments  about the IBFC and it`s players/teams.  That IMO gives up a leg up on this forum , don`t take the bait!
   I`m not taking you to task in any way just expressing my opinion  from my experiences after over 4 years posting. I must say i had some great
  times on this site.
  LC is doing what other IBFC schools should do and that`s to play quality competion and i a take my hat off to them for that.  No offense to others.
  IMO, if LC doesn`t win the conference this year
  they`ve wasted a great run. I have no ax to grind
  so that`s just how i see it.
  As i said above, my comments are not ment to be
  mean sprited in any way.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 13, 2005, 11:39:50 AM
Gomer your right and therefore I am enjoying the season and not getting into any more post arguments. Sorry just hate when people knock my MUSKIES. I hope all the IBFC team do well this weekend and please leave your players of the week regardless of stats, heart does play a factor in the ALL MADDOG TEAM. so please don't exclude someone based on stats. I stand by Barrie and Zeck as my players of the week for Lakeland! Talk to you all next week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 13, 2005, 03:47:14 PM
Maddog-

POW for week 3

Coach Duncan - He was wise enough to change his "bye" week to the third week before starting conference matchups. Now if we could just dump Valpo from the end of the schedule for a decent DIII non-conference team our tune up for the playoffs would be considerably better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2005, 07:47:27 AM
 The schedule for this week-end does not favor
  teams from the IBFC, IMO.(3) teams are playing
  good programs,( 2) playing so-so teams and (1)
   playing a weak team.
  Winners are , again this is my opinion, are:
     Concordia, Wis.
     MacMurray.... "needs" to beat X-coach Frey.
  Not so lucky:
    Concordia, Ill
    Eureka
    Greenville..... #22 Wheaton to strong.
    Benedictine.....#18 Carthage brings the heat.
    LC...................#15 UW-Whitewater. To many 
     horses.
  Course we`ll all know for sure Sat night.... who did what.
         

     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 14, 2005, 09:31:54 AM
Gomer-

Sometimes you got to hate saturday nights - but I agree with your outlook for this weekend. Another dismal non-conference year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 14, 2005, 03:12:03 PM
Wheaton
Carthage
LAKELAND
CUW
Mac

MADDOG'S PIKCS
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 16, 2005, 11:02:06 AM
Wow is this chat room dead! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 16, 2005, 02:18:46 PM
Hansen is predicting Con/Il. will route Rose - that's gutsy - but it would be nice to see.

Chicago area fans Ben palys a Sat. night game at their new stad. 7pm
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: doughboy69 on September 16, 2005, 11:27:21 PM
I hear that. Drinking starts at noon BU fans. Will we need the brown paper bags? We will see.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on September 17, 2005, 02:22:43 AM
The turn around begins.  CURF over Rose H.  It might be close, but a win non the less.  GO COUGARS!  8)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 17, 2005, 05:49:09 PM
 Some early final scores do not look good for teams in the IBC.   Enought said at this time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 17, 2005, 07:36:36 PM
50/50 Gomer-

lake tanked 73-12
Greenville tanked 58-7

Con(Wisc) nice win 40-13
Mac no problem 41-27
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 17, 2005, 08:14:39 PM
Just curious to hear from maddog what he saw today.  I am not being negative (and its a shame that I should have to say that), just want to hear what happened.  I was thinking Lakeland had a chance.  Sounds like your son played reasonably well considering the type of game it was..

"We've done that to so many people over the last two years, and this was the first time it ever happened to us," Zebrowski said. "Next week's the most important week, seeing if they're going to play or if we're going to start questioning ourselves."

So I guess Benedictine is up on the chopping block for another 70 spot?

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 17, 2005, 11:40:43 PM
Saints Fan-

Final -  Ben zip, C. Redmens 52

If next week is Lake's "most important" week than they're not a contender. S... happens, they played two top teams they should take what they learned (if anything) and get on with the rest of the rseason.

A lot of ankle and knee injuries on Bens turf tonight.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: irishlover on September 18, 2005, 09:06:40 AM
Way to go Highlanders.........you bounced back from a blowout against Wooster and got a big victory over Bob Frey and the Tri-State Thunder, keep up the good work coaches.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 18, 2005, 09:46:46 AM
 Like i said early in the week the IBC was going to have it`s hands full. Granted they played some really good teams and i , for one, didn`t think the out come would be pretty but to see that lakeland
 got beat  73-12 by UW-WW, which by the way
 was the most lop sided loss,score wise, In all of Div III play yesterday..Mount Union was next
  beating John Carroll  70-0.
 Like the Lakeland Coach said in part," we`ve done this to some now we`ve had it done to us."
 Give Lakeland credit as they chose to play "up"
  which i think gives their program added exposure  in D-3. There is no moral victory here,
  they lost to a superior team and now they can move on in their quest for an IBFC championship.
  Score wish the "average" score around the IBC was  43-10.  As all but (2) teams lost that doesn`t speak well for the IBC. IMO.
 ConCordia,Wis and Mac  did what was expected and both won.  They could  challenge in the IBC
  but it`s still early in the season.
  BU will be there at the end but unfortunately at the bottom of the conference. same for Concordia,Ill.
  Greenville should "up-set" somebody but still have an average year.
   Eureka always seems to scare people or at least play them close so who knows  maybe like Greenville  they to will pull an up-set.  That`s a big maybe.
 Aurora: I`ll call then this years 'dark-horse."
 By that i mean everybody better keep them in sight at all times. They could take it all. Time will tell

 Like i said it`still early in the season and leaque play is set to start so now is when it counts. All the
  losses to non-conference foes mean nothing. Except to possibly help guage where you are as a team.  Like John Paul Jones said," dam(n) the losses, full speed ahead."
As usual my comments are not ment to be mean spirited in any way just  some thoughts about the IBC.

 
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 18, 2005, 12:40:04 PM
How bad is Benedictine? Are they worse than they were last year?

I think it's time that they fold their program. They have gotten blown out 3 weeks in a row.

And yes, losing to North Central by 17 is still a blowout when your Offense scores 2 TD's on NCC's 2nd/3rd team. I'm just surprised NCC didn't run it up more.

BU is terrible.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Les Paul on September 18, 2005, 12:40:40 PM
Good win Mac, let's keep it rolling into the conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 18, 2005, 07:21:52 PM
D3Somebody-

I don't know if you watched BU play Saturday but I saw a lot of positives despite the score. 1st - BU roster is made of  mainly Fresh/Soph players. 2nd they have a new coaching staff which was assembled late in the year.  Give it a couple years and this team won't be one dimensional. Time and experience matures players. Be there in two years and I think you'll change your mind about dumping the program. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 18, 2005, 09:13:12 PM
aufb05,

I agree.  If I were coaching Lakeland, I'd probably just throw out that tape and just move on.  They haven't lost a conference game, and thats their ticket to the playoffs. 

gomer,

Actually Mt. Union's score was more lopsided because they outscored JCU by 70 whereas Whitewater outscored Lakeland by 61....just some of that college level math I was able to pick up during my time in school :)

D3somebody,

Granted, BU has been blown out this year but you are kicking them while they are down.  Your thoughts that they should "fold" their program is one of the most assinine statements I've ever read on this site...and this is how you choose to introduce yourself to post patterns?  Like aufb05 said, they are a young team.  No team of freshman and sophomores will be talented enough to overcome all the adversity that happens during a game....

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: scotty on September 18, 2005, 09:31:07 PM
SaintsFan, what no hug...youve won me over...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 19, 2005, 08:02:47 AM
SaintsFan....you look at it that way and you are correct!  I should have said," scored against."  That`s what i was getting at but my old education much have failed me.
  Re-phrase, by giving up 73 points LC was on the receiving end of the highest scoring football game played this past week-end ( 9/17/05) in D-III.
  I`m not re-posting for any purpose other than
  re-clarification.
 
 

           


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 19, 2005, 08:46:37 AM
Gomer,

I gotcha....no harm, no foul.

scotty,

grow up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 19, 2005, 10:55:33 AM
Yes, the score was 73-12, but let's not look past the fact that LC still gained 353 yards on the Warhawks. That 12 could've easily been more. Two weeks in a row a blocked punt turned the tides. Lakeland was in the game at 14-12, but saw it all slip away after a dropped pass that would've been a first down, then the blocked punt on the next possession. Had that pass been caught, Lakeland could've driven down the field for a score, either a FG or TD, and then you're looking at 17-15 UWW with a FG or even 20-17 Lakeland. It's amazing what momentum can do for a game.

The team as a whole looked dejected after the game, but Coach Zebrowski was upbeat and they'll be ready for conference. They've got their sights set on the IBC championship and a playoff berth and are not going to worry too long about losing to Whitewater.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 19, 2005, 11:27:03 AM
Quote from: Big_Uns on September 19, 2005, 10:55:33 AM
Yes, the score was 73-12, but let's not look past the fact that LC still gained 353 yards on the Warhawks. That 12 could've easily been more. Two weeks in a row a blocked punt turned the tides. Lakeland was in the game at 14-12, but saw it all slip away after a dropped pass that would've been a first down, then the blocked punt on the next possession. Had that pass been caught, Lakeland could've driven down the field for a score, either a FG or TD, and then you're looking at 17-15 UWW with a FG or even 20-17 Lakeland. It's amazing what momentum can do for a game.

The team as a whole looked dejected after the game, but Coach Zebrowski was upbeat and they'll be ready for conference. They've got their sights set on the IBC championship and a playoff berth and are not going to worry too long about losing to Whitewater.

A lot of "could've/would've"...  Much easier to digest if the game ended up 24-12, NOT 73-12!  Momentum doesn't account for 61pt difference and giving up over 650 yds offense.  "If Whitewater hadn't scored 9 more TD's than Lakeland, Lakeland could've won." :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 19, 2005, 01:34:15 PM
Big-Uns-

Lake should focus on their next game like everyone else. Focusing on the end game may wind up disappointing half way through the season. If you think AU, Mac, Con(w) or anyone else for that matter is going to let Lake role over them, think again.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 19, 2005, 07:29:12 PM
AUFB,

Aren't you the same person who tore down Benedictine the last few months before the season?

Now all of a sudden since BU has a coach from AU, you are giving them credit? Nice try.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 19, 2005, 08:49:47 PM
D3Somebody-

Re-read the post pal, we (Fat Pongo) were talking about BU sky boxes. As for AU I'm a IBC D3 fan that lives near the AU University. I happen to believe that the IBC can someday emerge out of the cellar and be competitive. That said and in respect of the men who play this game, asking that a program be eliminated is B... S...  If your a BU student tell Joe Sergo you don't appreciate his team efforts. If your a BU parent or friend rethink your kids school or your friendship or change your handle to D3Nobody. Either way support your program or tell your sad story to someone who gives a s...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 20, 2005, 12:13:05 AM
Alhough I don't know if they are archived, I'm sure you have ripped on BU before.

Everything you said in your post has nothing to do with you giving BU credit...simply because a former AU coach is the HC there. That is the ONLY reason you are giving BU credit. Obviously he is not that good...I think BU would be better off with their last two coaches.

And what would "Joe Sergo" do if I told him I don't appreciate "his"(not his) team's efforts? Do you know him personally and know what he would do?

Bottom line, don't stick up for BU because of it's AU coach...because that is the only reason you are doing it.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 20, 2005, 09:49:54 AM
D3Nobody-

Get a life.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on September 20, 2005, 12:26:35 PM
Let's face it, This is the last year the IBC will be in existance and national respect will never happen.  All the IBC teams can do is forget the non-conference schedule and focus on the most important game of the season, the next one.  Good luck to all IBC teams. 
Maddog,
Don't worry there is no team like UW-WW in the IBC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3fballfan on September 20, 2005, 01:14:49 PM
D3douchebag (somebody)....Yes it's going to be a long season, but here's the deal on BU:

1. Nobody recruited for the program this year after the coach was fired until March 1st.

2. Team has few returning players. Most of the roster consists of underclassmen. Keep in mind they were 1-9 last year with those players.

3. Key injuries...especially the freshman QB who has shown some spark, RB and a host of others.

4. First 3 games versus tough competition. 2 of them against nationally ranked teams.

I'm sorry but making a statement that they should fold the program is a tad ignorant. It's impossible to turn a program around in one season considering how it has deteriorated over the last few years. You can't blame the coaching staff with what they've been given to work with. Give BU a couple years. Plus, let's see how they do against weaker IBFC teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 20, 2005, 01:25:05 PM
To all concern, Maddog is still positive on the MUSKIES, Yes they got trashed, but the bright side is that they played TWO top ranked teams and came out of them unharmed and physically ready for the IBFC. The way I see it is LAKELAND has two options, give up which would be a mistake or regroup and get ready for the conference. Looking at Whitewater, (WOW). they looked like they were in there 7 th week of football, clicking on all cylinders. LAKELAND had some bright moments, but again to many , misques. They will be ready, Coach "Z" will not let them QUIT. There leadership is second to none and will have the troops ready. Again this is really the way to prepare for the conference play against 2 top ranked teams. LAKELAND  now knows what it will take in the playoffs to get the FIRST IBFC PLAYOFF WIN.  Again take nothing away from Whitewater, they were phanominal. LAKELAND has a great team and has nothing to be ashamed of, they played a great team both Offensively and Defensively.  LAKELANDS Leadership has to step it up to get to that level, MY MONEY IS STILL ON THE MUSKIES!!!!!.  i WILL SAY THAT i DID WITNESS A RECEIVER BORN. Eric Royal my son you took ungoddly punishment on your receptions and still hung onto the ball.. Those hits you took were Ronny Lott hits and still held onto the ball, that was missing last year. Great job and keep on improving. Maddog out til next week.  Oh Da One thanks, I agree with you good luck this weekend for family week.  OUT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 20, 2005, 01:34:20 PM
Maddog-

You better be positive on Lake or the the team will take you to the woodshed. Hang in their friend, an exciting IBC seasons starts Saturday.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 21, 2005, 07:43:54 AM
With the congratulating a WR on taking hits, why is Lakeland QB laying out his receivers to dry? 

Sorry maddog, had to do it  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 21, 2005, 07:46:15 AM
 The real season starts now.
 (1) Aurora over Greenville. Was going to pick this as a possible "dark horse" game but then thought better of it.
 (2) Concordia,Wis over Mac. There is a caveat to that though. If Mac can get a good passing game going to back up a running game then mac has a good chance at a "W". If none of that happens and they (Mac) just play good "D", i think Con, Wis takes it with the aid of their F/G kicker. A close game either way.
 (3) Lakeland over BU.  You have to feel for BU as LC will be out show the IBFC who`s the boss. The sting of getting beaten last week( by a superior team) will translate into an ulgy game. By that i mean points wise. Lakeland didn`t like the score last week and BU can`t score so bombs away.
 (4) Eureka and Concordia,Ill is in my view a toss up. Neither team has shown much so far so their`s should be the best game of the week in terms of
 strenght of programs. They`ll just battle it out
 and when the whistle blows at the end of the game..... somebody will get the "W".
   As always by saturday night we`ll all know for sure who did what.
   My comments are not met to fan the fires just to
   express my opinion.
   
 
 .  

 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 21, 2005, 09:47:23 AM
Gomer Pyle-

If AU v Green is a possible "dark-horse" then AU's season is in trouble. We'll see if their bye week helped them with their transition.

Lake will win but I'll be surprised if the score gets runned up to high double digit numbers (over 50). Ben is not going to give it away.

I like MAC over Con(W)

I agree w/you on Eureka & Con(I) a coin toss - though I think Con(I) needs the win more than Eureka.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 21, 2005, 02:19:12 PM
The word is, from WW, that Lakeland played so dirty WW put their starters back in to teach them a lesson.  Way to go out and earn that respect. Or how about Mac, rushing another teams band as they go through their pre-game routine. Well done there too.   ???

The IBC needs to compete and win to get respect and we still have not done that.  Lets all have a good season and play hard in the games we have left.  Good luck to everyone and lets make it a good year.  And how about winning a playoff game, then the respect will come.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 23, 2005, 01:42:18 AM
Ok,

I have been reading posts the whole season, and listening to Maddog rant and rave about his little Lakeland posse.  It's about time to put in my 2 cents.

Among the firsts posts for Maddog was Lakeland being a top 25 team......that is complete and utter bulls**t, and everyone knows it.  The 73-12 loss to Whitewater should have proved that. 

Though I am a IBFC fan, we have the weakest conference in all of D-III.  When our "top" IBFC team loses 73-12, we have a problem here. 

There is no way a IBFC team will win a playoff game.  Though I do give Aurora credit for what they did against Wooster last year.  Maddogg, you are overrating Lakeland WAYYYY to much, sure, they will beat the IBFC teams and possibly make it to the playoffs, and then what?  Lose 80-3 because they have to play a top team like Linfield or Mount Union.  The team that makes it from the IBFC will face an opponent that can probably beat alot of D-I programs. 

The team that makes the playoffs enjoy your conference championship, but that's where it ends.  Here is my prediction.  The team that makes the playoffs this year, whether it be Aurora, Con W., Macmurry, or Lakeland, will get beat by a margin of 40+ points.  Mark it down, tell your friends.

And maddogg, quit telling us how great your son is, if he was so great, wouldn't he want to play maybe at a higher level, possibly D-II.  Maybe he just looks good by comparison to other IBFC teams? HMMMMMMM, something to think about.

I am out
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 23, 2005, 02:16:55 PM
I don't see any groundbreaking material in that post. I'm pretty sure that it was common knowledge that the IBFC is very weak in comparison to anyone, if not the weakest conference.

I think it's possible for any team to struggle on any given day. Only the best truly shine year round. Linfield beat Rowan 52-0 in the NATIONAL SEMIFINAL so I don't know what your point is about being blown out by the best team. I think that's proof it can happen to anybody. What was it--a few years ago when Oklahoma beat Texas A&M 77-0? Or what about even in the NFL when San Fran beat Denver 55-10 in the SUPER BOWL?

73-12 is just a couple of numbers to me. What if Lakeland meets WW in the first round of the playoffs and the score is 35-24? What does that say? Anything can happen, especially in college athletics. The unpredictability is half the fun.

Last year, Concordia only beats Eureka 7-3, yet the two teams CUW shared the title with beat Eureka by a collective score of 93-3. Does that make CUW any less of a team? Obviously not because they beat Lakeland and were co-champs.

Plain and simple, you can't guage a team's ability on any one particular game. I think it's probably best if you let the players and the day decide the winner of a game before you get down on an entire conference for one team's bad day.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 23, 2005, 02:34:44 PM
Big-Uns-

How does your post rate a -2 "Karma" ?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 23, 2005, 02:55:54 PM
Big uns,

I see your point....but what was the public's reaction after all those blowouts you brought up??


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 23, 2005, 03:18:22 PM
No, I was just getting pissed at Maddogg for telling us how great Lakeland is, and is a top 25 team.  Then, I found myself going on about how much our conference blows.

But, I am still sticking to my word on the team from the IBFC that makes the playoffs will lose by 40+ points, I am sure there is someone out there who agrees withe me.

But I agree, teams do get lucky from time to time and play a great game.  Like Aurora last year in the playoffs, Wooster was supposed to absolutely give it to them, and they stuck it out, and turned it into a great game.

the saying is true, "any given sunday", but for us "any given Saturday".  In D-III it happens, but not very often.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 23, 2005, 03:42:59 PM
Baseman201,

I will agree with you about the IBC champion getting to the playoffs and getting beat by 30 or 40 points because lets face it, the IBC is a weak conference.  Here something else that you should look at is the WIAC is supposedly the best conference in the nation but look at their track record when it comes to the playoffs.  Their champ makes it past the second round and then gets their butts kicked by the #1 seed.  It doesn't matter who playes Mt. Union, St. John's, Linfield, etc. they're going to get clobbered.  D3 is similar to NAIA; alot of good teams but when it comes to playoffs there is a major drop off from the top 5 to the rest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on September 24, 2005, 12:48:20 AM
It is really refreshing to know that other people are worrying about the important issues in the IBC (championships, title runs, post season wins, all conference team, etc.). All we are looking for is a win!  GO CURF :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 24, 2005, 02:47:34 AM
Quote from: d3fballfan on September 20, 2005, 01:14:49 PM
D3douchebag (somebody)....Yes it's going to be a long season, but here's the deal on BU:

1. Nobody recruited for the program this year after the coach was fired until March 1st.

2. Team has few returning players. Most of the roster consists of underclassmen. Keep in mind they were 1-9 last year with those players.

3. Key injuries...especially the freshman QB who has shown some spark, RB and a host of others.

4. First 3 games versus tough competition. 2 of them against nationally ranked teams.

I'm sorry but making a statement that they should fold the program is a tad ignorant. It's impossible to turn a program around in one season considering how it has deteriorated over the last few years. You can't blame the coaching staff with what they've been given to work with. Give BU a couple years. Plus, let's see how they do against weaker IBFC teams.

1) Other teams have dealt with it and not lost their first 3 games by an average of about 30 points

2) What's your point? They were 1-9 with underclassmen last year, and they are on pace to go 0-10. Do you honestly think you(you're certainly a BU player) are going to win any games this year? You need to score points to win games. And if you don't score points, you need a good defense(which you don't, giving up 150 points in 3 games).

3) Don't pull the injury card out...every team has injuries, BU isn't the only team. No excuses.

4) Tough competition? Sure...NCC and Carthage can play, but Elmhurst? They are at the bottom of the CCIW

Making the statement that administration should fold the program is smart. Give me ONE, that's all i'm asking, ONE good reason why they should not fold the program. And I'm sick and tired of people like you blaming BU's records on coaching changes. "Give them a couple of years"...well it's been 4 years since Hand left, and all losing records. How many years is a couple? 10, 20?

"Let's see how they do against weaker teams"....YOU ARE THE WEAKEST TEAM IN THE CONFERENCE. There is nobody weaker than you!

BU won't win a game this year. This is the 0-10 season that will shut the door on the program(or at least it should). Lakeland, Mac, Conc-Wisc will beat them by 40-50 points each. Aurora will by at least 3 TD's. Eureka and Greenville will win by 2-3 TD'S. And CURF will cap their season by winning by a solid 10 points. You heard it hear first.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 24, 2005, 10:35:23 AM
D3Nobody sounds like Fat Pongo to me. Go for kid run down your team the rest of couldn't care less, that proavly goes for you team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 02:30:40 AM
Quote from: aufb05 on September 24, 2005, 10:35:23 AM
D3Nobody sounds like Fat Pongo to me. Go for kid run down your team the rest of couldn't care less, that proavly goes for you team.

Run down my team? I have no association with Benedictine Football at all. Don't be upset that I was right...and that you back up BU football simply because it has a coach from AU on it now. Last year you wouldn't have said a word to back up BU. Why now?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 25, 2005, 08:05:34 AM
  The IBFC shook out like it was supposed to this past sat, 9/24.
  The best game from a pure football stand-point was  Eureka/ Concordia,Ill.
  It`s early yet but i wouldn`t be surprised to see
  a different than "expected" team at the top of the conference at the end of the season. Time will tell.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 25, 2005, 10:14:14 AM
D3wantabe-

Quote from: D3Somebody on September 24, 2005, 02:47:34 AM
Quote from: d3fballfan on September 20, 2005, 01:14:49 PM

BU won't win a game this year. This is the 0-10 season that will shut the door on the program(or at least it should). Lakeland, Mac, Conc-Wisc will beat them by 40-50 points each.

Conference Week 1 - Lake final over Ben - 38 points
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 25, 2005, 10:37:45 AM
Shut the door on the program? Yes, the team is definitely no good now, but the facilities BU now has will bring in recruits sometime in the near future. The Sports Complex is hands down one of the finest facilities in D3.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 12:01:48 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on September 25, 2005, 10:14:14 AM
D3wantabe-

Quote from: D3Somebody on September 24, 2005, 02:47:34 AM
Quote from: d3fballfan on September 20, 2005, 01:14:49 PM

BU won't win a game this year. This is the 0-10 season that will shut the door on the program(or at least it should). Lakeland, Mac, Conc-Wisc will beat them by 40-50 points each.

Conference Week 1 - Lake final over Ben - 38 points

Pretty good huh? I was only 2 points off.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on September 25, 2005, 03:18:03 PM
BU dropping its program would be absolutely stupid.  And by the way CURF has had just as little sucess as BU latley so why shouldnt they drop their program some people here obviously have it out for BU.  I f you remeber correctly it was CURF that was 0-10 last year even though BU was 1-9.  And BU has obviously decided to make a commitment to football with the building of a sports complex that is better than any field in conference for sure and is one of the top in the nation. This in its self along with Jon Coopers reputation will bring in recruits.  Just look at the improvement from last year, a Lakeland offense that put 70 some points on them last year was held off for 2 quarters after putting up 24 points (If i remember correctly Lakeland returned 8 staters on O). The final score of this game really should have been 38-7 because of a late fumble on a KOR it was 45.  But for someone to say they should just drop the program is completley ignorant. Just because a team has a few bad years with some coaching changes (I'm not saying this is why they arent sucessful) is no reason to drop a program that in the late 90's was competitive in the conference. Rather they are rebuilding the program when you do only return a small amount of players you cant expect a team to immediately beat teams such as carthage, ncc, or lakelan
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 25, 2005, 04:50:39 PM
Yeah I agree, Benedictine dropping their program is pretty rediculious, in fact any team dropping their program would be a horrible move. 

First, Benedictine has won 26 games since 1999, CURF has only won 5 since that time.  A few years ago Benedictine looked pretty good.  But, the reason that dropping the programs is a bad idea is simple.  It's not soccer bringing in the money, it's football.  Win or lose, I guarantee CURF and Benedictine get 700-1,000+ fans (or close to) at every game.  Cancelling the programs would mean a huge loss in revenue.  Where do you think the huge D-I schools get their revenue from, it's not girls field hockey I can guarantee you that. 

Yeah, and the BU Lakeland game, I thought would be a whole lot worse than 45-7, and I didnt even know about the fumble on the KOR at the end.  Maybe Lakeland isnt as good as once thought.  I would like Maddogg to chyme in here at anytime, havent heard from you in a while there sporty.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 05:10:01 PM
Quote from: footballfan05 on September 25, 2005, 03:18:03 PM
BU dropping its program would be absolutely stupid.  And by the way CURF has had just as little sucess as BU latley so why shouldnt they drop their program some people here obviously have it out for BU.  I f you remeber correctly it was CURF that was 0-10 last year even though BU was 1-9.  And BU has obviously decided to make a commitment to football with the building of a sports complex that is better than any field in conference for sure and is one of the top in the nation. This in its self along with Jon Coopers reputation will bring in recruits.  Just look at the improvement from last year, a Lakeland offense that put 70 some points on them last year was held off for 2 quarters after putting up 24 points (If i remember correctly Lakeland returned 8 staters on O). The final score of this game really should have been 38-7 because of a late fumble on a KOR it was 45.  But for someone to say they should just drop the program is completley ignorant. Just because a team has a few bad years with some coaching changes (I'm not saying this is why they arent sucessful) is no reason to drop a program that in the late 90's was competitive in the conference. Rather they are rebuilding the program when you do only return a small amount of players you cant expect a team to immediately beat teams such as carthage, ncc, or lakelan

Exactly how do you give a team credit when it goes 1-9, and their only win was against an 0-10 team? And then follows up that 1-9 with an 0-4 start (let's not forget the 2-8 season before that). So what is BU? 3-21 in their last 24 games?

And are you slow? Do you really think BU built a sports complex for the FOOTBALL program? Because they didn't. They did because BU didn't pay a DIME for it, the Village of Lisle did. They wanted to host events such as this years National Track and Field championships, Special olympics, and the Chicago Bandits(who just happens to have one of the most popular female athletes in the WORLD on it). If Benedictine cared about the football program, they would have went out and searched for a coach with head coaching experience, not an assistant for 19 years. There's a reason Cooper never became head coach at Aurora.

And stop with the "John Cooper" ass kissing. You're obviously affiliated with Aurora somehow. All of you Aurora people have always put down Benedictine as a school...and now all of a sudden you "feel" for BU because your beloved Cooper is at the school. It's pretty tasteless. And because BU only lost by 38 this year instead of 56, it's a big improvement? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't BU lose to a National Contending Carthage team by less points last year than they did to Carthage this year minus All-American Dante Washington and others?

Keywords: The final "should have"....when will this stop? There are no should have could have would have's in football....the final is the final.

And how long have they been rebuilding? This is the 5th year of it. How long do they need?

And no one's asking BU to beat Lakeland, Carthage, and NCC....but competition would be nice....losing by 38 this week, 52 last week, and 17(which was really 31 because the 2 TD's were on NCC'S 3rd team defense) is not competition....oh and what also isn't competition? Losing to a team(Elmhurst) who was predicted to be 2nd to the last in the CCIW by 46 points, 53 without the TD with a minute left on Elmhurst's 3rd team.

Fold the program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 05:14:06 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 25, 2005, 04:50:39 PM
Yeah I agree, Benedictine dropping their program is pretty rediculious, in fact any team dropping their program would be a horrible move. 

First, Benedictine has won 26 games since 1999, CURF has only won 5 since that time.  A few years ago Benedictine looked pretty good.  But, the reason that dropping the programs is a bad idea is simple.  It's not soccer bringing in the money, it's football.  Win or lose, I guarantee CURF and Benedictine get 700-1,000+ fans (or close to) at every game.  Cancelling the programs would mean a huge loss in revenue.  Where do you think the huge D-I schools get their revenue from, it's not girls field hockey I can guarantee you that. 

Yeah, and the BU Lakeland game, I thought would be a whole lot worse than 45-7, and I didnt even know about the fumble on the KOR at the end.  Maybe Lakeland isnt as good as once thought.  I would like Maddogg to chyme in here at anytime, havent heard from you in a while there sporty.

You guarantee Benedictine is bringing in 700-100 fans each game? You obviously have never been to a game. Curf and Benedictine combined don't bring in 700 fans to each of their home games. And don't look to the box scores for the attendance numbers....they are raised so high it's not even funny.

BU would lose no revenue from dropping their program. In fact, they may gain. Consider the cost of jerseys, equipment, coaches salaries, road trips, insurance, etc. vs. Money from Benedictine Football apparel(which nobody wears, not even the players from what i'm told) and attendance money.....looks to me like they would be saving a ton of money.

And you thought it would be a lot worse than 45-7? 38 points is almost 6 TD's. How much worse did you expect? This isn't USC playing Eastern Illinois, this is two Division 3 teams with Division 3 players.

Again, Fold the program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 25, 2005, 05:24:05 PM
d3somebody,

You have a valid point regarding comparing scores from last season to this season.  I just don't think it merits dropping the program.  Yes, the team may be painful to watch/read about (and I think someone was on here in the preseason saying they are close to contending)---but dropping the program because of some losses (ok alot of losses) would be ignorant.

Lets get a discussion going here....Given the state of the BU program right now what would you do to fix this mess of a program??  And lets go ahead and say that dropping the sport is not an option.....

Me?  I have no idea....I could not give an educated opinoin since I am not at all familiar with BU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 25, 2005, 05:32:56 PM
Another valid discussion point has been brought up in the past two weeks also.  Is Lakeland not as good as originally thought?  Or did they take it easy on BU and just run into a team in Whitewater that would put up 73 on anyone in the country?

I am curious because before the season I thought Lakeland would be the conference representative in the playoffs and with everyone they had back from last season, they'd make a good showing...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 25, 2005, 06:26:35 PM
Enough about BU and the guy/girl who says he/she is not from BU but knows more about the team than anyone else on this board. If "D3Nobody" wants to get rid of the program then he/she should petition the BU Administration. Putting up stupid posts on this board isn't going solve his/her personal problems w/BU. That said lets get off the subject.

Lake may not be the sweetheart team this year. CUR(W) is making their presence known after pounding MAC 59-19. If Lake counldn't beat BU by that much, what wiil they do against a better team like MAC. I think the season's representative may unfold next week when CUR(W) host AU.  By the way Greenville is certainly not the team it was last year. Their "D" has speed, size and talent.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 25, 2005, 07:24:37 PM
aufb,

While I agree the subject has been run into the ground, my two cents.

I'm not sure Benedictine has fallen any further than North Park fell in recent years (they are 3-0 this year) or than Carthage fell in the 90s (they won two games in the playoffs last year).  These things are cyclical - IF BU is committed to fielding competitive teams, they should continue; if not, dropping should be considered.

Memo to baseman - d3 teams would not LOSE tremendous revenue by dropping football.  MAYBE Mt. Union and a few others break even (though I doubt even that), but at the d3 level, even fball costs are never recovered from revenues, much less funding the athletic department.  Even at the d1 level, most athletic departments are a drain on the general fund; you're confusing Benedictine with U of Michigan!  When you AVERAGE 110,000 fans (at $60 a seat), AND sell $millions in merchandise, THEN cutting fball would cost tremendous revenue (it might save your soul as an academic institution, but it would cost money  :(), but I very much doubt there is ANY d3 school where athletics is not a drain on general funds.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 07:35:21 PM
Mr.,

But AUFB knows everything, so don't you dare argue with him. Coach Cooper is at the helm, therfore the team should be respected simply because he is Aurora affiliated.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on September 25, 2005, 07:48:02 PM
I do not like all this talk of dropping programs at BU or CURF.  No one from either school has said anything in the last few years about dropping FB, have they? Loosing streaks are part of the game, some just happen to be longer than others.  I don't think FB brings any kids to BU or CURF on its own basis nor will it keep them there.  It seems that the overall financial condition of the institution will determine the elimination of any activity, academic or athletic.  Let us hope that both schools keep playing and start winning. Ya I know - wishful thinking.  Winning rocks and loosing sucks but the kids keep playing every game and more keep showing up every year.  You explain it!  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 25, 2005, 08:28:03 PM
I can explain it,

Because the D-III level is more about participation and fun.  No one is even thinking about making it to the NFL at D-III schools, (with exception of a small handfull last year) Even if BU and CURF go 1-9 and 0-10 again this year, I bet the players enjoyed every minute of playing NCAA college football, no matter what the outcome is.  And I will agree, BU has a nice ass facility over there, whether it be for their football team or not, it's top notch man.

yeah, when I think about it now, I guess D-III programs don't really get alot on revenue from games.  I guess I just wanted to take a shot at soccer for being such a pussy sport.  And by the way, CURF DOES get around 700-1,000 a game.....I just know, leave it at that.

Even if your programs sucks, people like going out and seeing a football game on a Saturday afternoon, there is nothing better, no matter how crappy the teams are.

Its true, losing streaks are apart of the game, and you never know what will happen the next year.  And speaking of Carthage, in 2003 they had a losing 3-7 record, but the very next year they went 11-2 winning 2 playoffs games.  So anything can happen, you never know who will show up at BU, CURF, Eureka, or any other school the following year, and change them into a playoff contendor.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 25, 2005, 08:37:29 PM
baseman,

I'm basically on your side in the argument, so watch that stuff about soccer being a 'pussy sport' - I coach what everyone else in the world calls football!  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 09:06:00 PM
Tell David Beckham soccer is a pussy sport....man it sure would suck to be him  :-[
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 25, 2005, 09:27:56 PM
The score of the LC-BU game could've been a lot worse. Lakeland's receivers were beating them deep all game long (a 70-yard touchdown pass was dropped after LC's receiver got about 5 steps ahead of the BU defender. Also, there was an hour and a half lightning delay midway through the second quarter. I think it threw both teams' off. LC scored 24 points before that.

After that dropped deep ball, they stopped going deep and basically stopped passing altogether after the torrential downpour aside from a few -and-long situations.

And it doesn't matter really if your offense scores 70 points when your defense gives up 92 yards (33 of those coming on a 4th quarter drive).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FootballMan on September 25, 2005, 11:22:25 PM
I really dont understand what everyone is talking about.  If any of you were at the LC/BU game would know lakeland is one of the top teams in this conference.  For you people say that the game was even some-what close is dumb.  LC score TD's on their first 3 possesion and i feild goal on their fourth.  Its was 24 zero before BU knew what hit them......if it wasnt for the hour and a half rain delay this would have been a repeat of last year....BU did not have a chance in that game, from the opening kickoff to the final horn.  For god sakes BU only had 92 total yards...that spell domination to me. Now the Big question we need to ask is what happen to the supposely might MAC......they got killed and people picked them to contend for the title........lets think about that!!!!   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on September 26, 2005, 12:54:43 AM
you cnat blame the fact that lakeland didnt score from the time they kicked that field goal until about 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter on a rain delay, if the delay was that bog of the factor than wouldnt it have done the same for the BU defense, but it is true that lakelands d dominated the game that is simply a fact that cant be argued, but i think the question is that if BU's defense could stop the lakeland O 8 times in a row (only 1 of them on a dropped pass) what will happen when they play better teams with better defenses such as conc wisc
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 26, 2005, 10:15:35 AM
I think that were all missing a big piece of the puzzle here with the BU discussion and that is the administration!  The don't give a **** about football and that is evident when they don't hire a football coach for 5 months.  Football is not a priority at BU.  It's not a enrollment booster or a money maker.  Like some one else said before the new athletic complex is being built by Lilse so the high school can play there and so on...  It doesn't matter who comes into that job, we could get Larry Kerhes or Lloyd Carr, they would still lose at BU because there is no support from the administration.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FootballMan on September 26, 2005, 10:21:39 AM
footballFan

it sounds like you are a BU fan or player so i think the question you need to be asking is what BU is going to do versus a defense like CUW.......I hate to pull stats from the LC/UW-WW game b/c they killed LC in final stats.....but LC did gain 353 total yards on one of the best defense in the country 300 coming in the first half.....so i believe LC did show they can move the ball on a good defense, I cant say the same for BU......and yes a hour and a half rain delay can cause a slowage in anyones offense.  Those kids were ready to play at the beginning of that game and the rain delay put a damper on that whole game.....if it wasnt for that rain delay BU would have no way to stop the momentum LC had in the first and second Qtrs., it was a run away train.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on September 26, 2005, 12:14:11 PM
valid point football man but BU did stop the momentum of lakeland before the rain delay forcing a field goal and a 3 and out before the rains came. The BU defense def had some momentum going into the rain delay even though they came out of the gates flat but that is no excuse for them. So even though lakeland was rolling in the first quarter it was not the same in the second. And im not raging on lakeland they are def the team to beat in the conference i was trying to see if anyone had any comments on how they will perform against conc wisc i was not trying to say they wont perform.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 26, 2005, 12:54:03 PM
So much for Lakeland and BU.

Since Cur(W) and Mac don't post current game stats on their web sites does anyone know why that game was so lopsided (59-19)? Either Cur(W) has become "that" good or MAC has been grossly overrated this season or plagued with injuries. That game wasn't even competitive. :-\
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3fballfan on September 26, 2005, 02:57:44 PM
D3Douchebag (Somebody)....you don't know dick.  You're just some 20 year old BU student who pours over D3 stats and thinks he has the world by the balls.  OK we get it, BU is bad.  However, you're cynical posts about folding the program are those of a nieve little college kid who doesn't know what it takes to play football or run a program.  Posting like that makes you look like an ass.  Try telling some players to their faces that their school should fold its program.  Yeah, that's what I thought.  If a school I made a committment to folded its program I'd be really upset.  You also make false assumptions about the coaching staff's previous coaching careers...again you have no clue because you are just a student.

Why the negativity?  Have you ever played a down of football bro? You act like D3 is D1.  Aside from players, former players, parents, students/faculty at D3 schools, not many other folks pay attention to it.  I like it because I like to watch live college football on fall sat. afternoons and there are a lot of D3 schools that offer that for cheap.  It is what it is so I'm sorry BU won't have a winning season before you graduate.

BU's injuries are going to have an effect because of the lack of depth from poor recruiting in past years and no recruiting till march of last year.  Carthage sucked in the 90's and look at them today.  It takes time to build...and you can't count the past few years as re-building.  Douche, you can go on and on, but you can't expect much this year from underclassmen and a new system.

Now go back to mommy's basement and download some more porn to take the edge off your narrow view ya loser.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 26, 2005, 03:33:27 PM
d3football fan has it all wrong, the douche is clearly an angry father with an axe to grind because his pimple faced son wasn't recruited at BU and was forced to take a job removing dog crap for the village of Lisle instead--hence the insider info on Lisle and the stadium financing. I know this is an old topic hardly worth commenting on--and that I apologize for--but I just can't sit idle while this ninny keeps running his yap. Listen tubby, you think BU sucks, that's fine but that hardly provides any semblance of an intelligent argument about shutting down the program (and I love how you keep using the same argument as a justification--boo hoo they suck so they should fold). If I follow your logic I should be at the corner of Clark and Addison calling for the Cubs to fold up their organization because guess what, they suck too and they've sucked for a long time. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you understand that this is the nature of sports. There are always teams that struggle for an extended period of time before turning things around--Tampa Bay Bucaneers, Carthage, etc.  So clearly yours is a personal beef but don't worry, little Timmy will be bumped up to top scooper any day now so you won't have to have any hard feelings toward BU anymore.  Now, I'm not a BU player, coach, friend, student...and I don't even live anywhere near Lisle. I've only taken the time to tell you all of this for 2 reasons.  Number 1 is that I really can't stand idiotic postings, and unfortunatley my pudgy friend, yours is just that.  Number 2 is that I feel sorry for you and want to help you work through some of your misery. I can ask around for you to see if anyone knows of a good shrink specializing in your rare disorder of idiotus douchebagus.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 26, 2005, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on September 26, 2005, 12:54:03 PM
So much for Lakeland and BU.

Since Cur(W) and Mac don't post current game stats on their web sites does anyone know why that game was so lopsided (59-19)? Either Cur(W) has become "that" good or MAC has been grossly overrated this season or plagued with injuries. That game wasn't even competitive. :-\

Check "game results" on the Con,W football site.
 As you say it doesn`t give the stats but there is a verbal break down of the game.
 The way it was written it looks like Mac had little or no "D" as Concordia had 500 yds of offense.  No running game to speak of as both of Mac`s TD`s came on passes. Mac does have a really good running back in Ereg but with out "stats" there is no way to tell how he did.
 You mention ......over-rated. Perhaps. Put another way it was probably wishful thinking.
 Mac does not have the personnel to beat or up-set
 the top teams in the IBFC. That being said, i look for them to be in 4th place when the season finishes. IMO.  
 You ask "has Concordia,W become that good?"
  Even money says they will take it all.  IMO.
  We`ll know for sure after the big 3 ( Lakeland,
  Aurora and Con,W) play and we see whose left standing. There might just be a surprise there.
  Operative word here is....... might.
 One other thought, how about the posters letting BU up for air!  Those boys have to live that night-mare. What`s the point in bashing their program,
  the coach, what ever? So what if they happen to be the worst(maybe) team in the IBC. One thing
 you know for sure is they show up every saturday
 and play!! They know there`re going to get
  pummeled but they still show up. My hats off to those players. Just some comments.
   
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 26, 2005, 04:29:16 PM
 TBaggins:
   You said in part,"..............little Timmie will be bumped up to TOP Scooper any day now.........."
   Cold..............................but funny!! LOL.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: d3fballfan on September 26, 2005, 02:57:44 PM
D3Douchebag (Somebody)....you don't know dick.  You're just some 20 year old BU student who pours over D3 stats and thinks he has the world by the balls.  OK we get it, BU is bad.  However, you're cynical posts about folding the program are those of a nieve little college kid who doesn't know what it takes to play football or run a program.  Posting like that makes you look like an ass.  Try telling some players to their faces that their school should fold its program.  Yeah, that's what I thought.  If a school I made a committment to folded its program I'd be really upset.  You also make false assumptions about the coaching staff's previous coaching careers...again you have no clue because you are just a student.

Why the negativity?  Have you ever played a down of football bro? You act like D3 is D1.  Aside from players, former players, parents, students/faculty at D3 schools, not many other folks pay attention to it.  I like it because I like to watch live college football on fall sat. afternoons and there are a lot of D3 schools that offer that for cheap.  It is what it is so I'm sorry BU won't have a winning season before you graduate.

BU's injuries are going to have an effect because of the lack of depth from poor recruiting in past years and no recruiting till march of last year.  Carthage sucked in the 90's and look at them today.  It takes time to build...and you can't count the past few years as re-building.  Douche, you can go on and on, but you can't expect much this year from underclassmen and a new system.

Now go back to mommy's basement and download some more porn to take the edge off your narrow view ya loser.

Let's just say I know a little bit. You talk about assumptions, why would you assume I'm a 20 year old BU student?

My posts about BU folding the program stems from the lack of commitment of the administration, the lopsided losses, and the bad coaching selections to name a few. And...well...I know a bit about what it takes to play football. I'd be willing to bet I know a bit more than you too.

Anything I've said about previous coaching careers is true. Tell me what is false about my comments...was the fact that I said Cooper was an assistant for 19 years and never offered a promotion at AU who supposedly loved him a lie? Tell me...

And I don't act like D3 is D1...as a matter of fact I stated that in my other posts. In D1, teams getting blown out year after year is accepted...because well, it's D1. In Division 3, it shouldn't happen. These are players who were too small and too slow to play D1. They all have something in common. And if you love going to D3 games....that is great for you....a purple heart for your efforts.

Don't make any excuses for BU and its injuries. Are they the only team that is hurting right now? No. That's football.

And how long can a team rebuild for? Is BU going on year number 5 or 6? And coach number 3 or 4? Yes...they are.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: TBaggins on September 26, 2005, 03:33:27 PM
d3football fan has it all wrong, the douche is clearly an angry father with an axe to grind because his pimple faced son wasn't recruited at BU and was forced to take a job removing dog crap for the village of Lisle instead--hence the insider info on Lisle and the stadium financing. I know this is an old topic hardly worth commenting on--and that I apologize for--but I just can't sit idle while this ninny keeps running his yap. Listen tubby, you think BU sucks, that's fine but that hardly provides any semblance of an intelligent argument about shutting down the program (and I love how you keep using the same argument as a justification--boo hoo they suck so they should fold). If I follow your logic I should be at the corner of Clark and Addison calling for the Cubs to fold up their organization because guess what, they suck too and they've sucked for a long time. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you understand that this is the nature of sports. There are always teams that struggle for an extended period of time before turning things around--Tampa Bay Bucaneers, Carthage, etc.  So clearly yours is a personal beef but don't worry, little Timmy will be bumped up to top scooper any day now so you won't have to have any hard feelings toward BU anymore.  Now, I'm not a BU player, coach, friend, student...and I don't even live anywhere near Lisle. I've only taken the time to tell you all of this for 2 reasons.  Number 1 is that I really can't stand idiotic postings, and unfortunatley my pudgy friend, yours is just that.  Number 2 is that I feel sorry for you and want to help you work through some of your misery. I can ask around for you to see if anyone knows of a good shrink specializing in your rare disorder of idiotus douchebagus.

I really hope you were not trying to be funny with your first sentence...because it was a very poor attempt at humor. You lose. Try again.

On to the rest of your post...how can you compare the Chicago Cubs with BU? The Cubs folding? With the amount of money they bring in? What an idiotic comparison from an obviously idiotic person.

If you can't stand my postings, which are the truth....nobody is forcing you to read them. And if you are from Benedictine...and I'm thinking you may be on the football team and/or a student there....good luck the rest of the season. Conc Wisc and Mac are just waiting...but then again so is CURF and Eureka.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 26, 2005, 06:15:11 PM
Oh Fat Pongo (aka "D3Somebody") how quickly you betray yourself with every posting, and how quickly the weather changes in your neighborhood. Welcome back, we've missed you so!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 26, 2005, 08:04:07 PM
I'm with you bags -

Welcome back Pongo - crashing and burning as usual. Not from BEN - ya right!! AU owns a piece of you know (Coop) & there ain't nothingn you can do about - but whine.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 26, 2005, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 05:38:48 PM
On to the rest of your post...how can you compare the Chicago Cubs with BU? The Cubs folding? With the amount of money they bring in? What an idiotic comparison from an obviously idiotic person.


Well if in fact we CAN compare the Cubs to BU, it will only take about 80 more years of futility and then the program will start having fans and bring money in.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 09:04:53 PM
Professor Pongo I am not. Correct me if I'm wrong(which i'm not), he was the one saying BU was going to contend and that they had an All-American QB coming....but from what I know/heard, the BU QB has a QB rating less than Coach Cooper's age.

Moving on....Tbags and AU...did either of you have a response to my posts, or was that it because you were proven wrong?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2005, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 09:04:53 PM
Professor Pongo I am not.

That's odd, because you use the same computer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 09:46:54 PM
All of Benedictine is on the same server...hence the same IP address. Thousands of people every day use the server :) I definitely do not use the same computer as him...because this is my laptop  ;)

Say what you will though...and try to rev up this board by comparing me with the Professor, who once again, I am not. Though....I am still waiting for the other two to comment on my posts...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 26, 2005, 10:53:13 PM
"Run down my team? I have no association with Benedictine

Well spoken D3 Somebody A.K.A. "Fat  Pongo" who uses a BEN computor (the same one as Fat Pongo uses) but has no association with BEN College, but uses every waking moment to run down the BEN football program because he got past over for a coaching position by a AU Coach. So lets get ugly, right PONGO and dish the players, the fans, the college and the folks who post on this board.

You got to love this guy. So PONGO are you really Fat, or does the adjective just refer to the skin between your nose and chin?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 11:18:03 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on September 26, 2005, 10:53:13 PM
"Run down my team? I have no association with Benedictine

Well spoken D3 Somebody A.K.A. "Fat  Pongo" who uses a BEN computor (the same one as Fat Pongo uses) but has no association with BEN College, but uses every waking moment to run down the BEN football program because he got past over for a coaching position by a AU Coach. So lets get ugly, right PONGO and dish the players, the fans, the college and the folks who post on this board.

You got to love this guy. So PONGO are you really Fat, or does the adjective just refer to the skin between your nose and chin?

I'm a bit confused here. If I have no association with the Benedictine Football Team, then why would I not be able to post from Benedictine? Explain that for me...

Passed over for a coaching position? No, my friend...certainly not....although at this point the coaching staff could use some help....

You can call me Pongo all you want...but the fact that two people post from the same server does not make them the same person...and we aren't. And again...how exactly is Fat Pongo using my personal computer? You obviously know nothing about IP adresses or servers...but then...you went to Aurora...and you people have trouble spelling words correctly.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 27, 2005, 12:19:56 AM
And I don't act like D3 is D1...as a matter of fact I stated that in my other posts. In D1, teams getting blown out year after year is accepted...because well, it's D1. In Division 3, it shouldn't happen. These are players who were too small and too slow to play D1. They all have something in common. And if you love going to D3 games....that is great for you....a purple heart for your efforts.

Regardless of who you are, this statement is just plum dumb.  So no teams should be blown out because they are D3?  I am definitely not following that.  Inferior teams compete at all levels.  Just because the D3 players lack something D1 players might have, it doesn't mean all players at this level have equal ability.  Obviously, you never played one down of college football...

Pongo, your tune may have changed (from supporting BU), but the way you relay messages here is the same.  Everyone has caught onto the fact you make personal attacks while correcting every post here---and mentioning how much football knowledge you pretend to have....

Nobody here is dumb enough not to make this connection...

Congratulations on your new laptop.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 27, 2005, 12:32:47 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 27, 2005, 12:19:56 AM
And I don't act like D3 is D1...as a matter of fact I stated that in my other posts. In D1, teams getting blown out year after year is accepted...because well, it's D1. In Division 3, it shouldn't happen. These are players who were too small and too slow to play D1. They all have something in common. And if you love going to D3 games....that is great for you....a purple heart for your efforts.

Regardless of who you are, this statement is just plum dumb.  So no teams should be blown out because they are D3?  I am definitely not following that.  Inferior teams compete at all levels.  Just because the D3 players lack something D1 players might have, it doesn't mean all players at this level have equal ability.  Obviously, you never played one down of college football...

Pongo, your tune may have changed (from supporting BU), but the way you relay messages here is the same.  Everyone has caught onto the fact you make personal attacks while correcting every post here---and mentioning how much football knowledge you pretend to have....

Nobody here is dumb enough not to make this connection...

Congratulations on your new laptop.

How is the statement dumb? Not once did I say teams shouldn't get blown out. But year after year? In D1...schools have a much bigger football budget....teams sell tickets and make money even when they are terrible....but they are still D1...and they still make money on apparel, tickets, etc. In D3...losing schools don't make money off of football. They lose money. So why keep a team that is consistently losing and a team that administration does not help anyways? I don't see the point. Also, D1 football isn't supposed to be fun...it's about money. D3 football is supposed to be fun. How is fun getting blown out every week? Explain that to me.

Saints, you can say I am Pongo as much as you would like...but at least prove some of your points for me when I argue with you...don't use this "Pongo" nonsense as a blanket to hide under when you are called out. K?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 27, 2005, 01:07:18 AM
D3somebody and Pongo are the only people to have posted from that IP address in the past month. You tell me. It's very possible that they are two separate people and the only ones who have posted from Benedictine -- on BOTH football and hoops -- in the past month. But it's not cut and dried.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 27, 2005, 01:15:17 AM
D3S,

Even a majority of d1 schools LOSE money on football; I doubt ANY d3 schools make money (with the POSSIBLE exception of Mt Union and a handful of others).  Unless you are at one of the BIG TIME (i.e., semi-pro) schools, you'd BETTER be in it for the fun.  And fun does NOT require winning (though it helps!).

My son was by far the best player on his first-year lacrosse team (2nd worst team in Michigan, so that's not bragging TOO much!); that, of course, made him a 'marked man', and he came home injured after nearly every game (all but 3 or which they lost) - he had a BLAST!!  (He knew that most of his teammates could not even pass or catch a ball, but they TRIED, and he had FUN!)

On the other hand, he is also captain of the soccer team (a sport Ypsi has 'supported' for many years) - while their record is much better than the LAX team, he comes home muttering that he 'hates the team'.  The difference?  The soccer team has the talent to succeed, but many players just don't give a damn.  He'll take desire and effort over 'talent' anyday, and I say 'right on, David!'

With both sports, winning would be awfully nice, but it is NOT the defining difference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 27, 2005, 01:37:02 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 27, 2005, 01:07:18 AM
D3somebody and Pongo are the only people to have posted from that IP address in the past month. You tell me. It's very possible that they are two separate people and the only ones who have posted from Benedictine -- on BOTH football and hoops -- in the past month. But it's not cut and dried.

I must hand it to you Pat Coleman, you are a whiz at the computer. The fact that you can look up random members IP adresses when they have done nothing is quite impressive. You should see if Bill Gates is hiring...hell...or see if he needs a replacement.

You're forgetting one thing. Benedictine is on the same IP. So anyone who posts from BU is going to have the same one. Keep that in mind before you go accusing people of being someone else.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 27, 2005, 01:39:40 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 27, 2005, 01:15:17 AM
D3S,

Even a majority of d1 schools LOSE money on football; I doubt ANY d3 schools make money (with the POSSIBLE exception of Mt Union and a handful of others).  Unless you are at one of the BIG TIME (i.e., semi-pro) schools, you'd BETTER be in it for the fun.  And fun does NOT require winning (though it helps!).

My son was by far the best player on his first-year lacrosse team (2nd worst team in Michigan, so that's not bragging TOO much!); that, of course, made him a 'marked man', and he came home injured after nearly every game (all but 3 or which they lost) - he had a BLAST!!  (He knew that most of his teammates could not even pass or catch a ball, but they TRIED, and he had FUN!)

On the other hand, he is also captain of the soccer team (a sport Ypsi has 'supported' for many years) - while their record is much better than the LAX team, he comes home muttering that he 'hates the team'.  The difference?  The soccer team has the talent to succeed, but many players just don't give a damn.  He'll take desire and effort over 'talent' anyday, and I say 'right on, David!'

With both sports, winning would be awfully nice, but it is NOT the defining difference.

Mr Ypsi...you're talking about  a first yer lacrosse team though. This team is 100 years old. I've played some sports in my day...and you can still have fun when you lose. I can't imagine having fun while losing by an average of 30+ points per game. How can that be fun?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 27, 2005, 02:16:16 AM
Overall LAX scores: they lost by 8 to <3.

He had a BLAST!

Winning is NOT everything.  (David is VERY competitive - he would prefer having teammates that produce wins!  But he will take less talented teammates who honestly try, over more talented teammates who 'go through the motions' anytime - I think I raised a very wise son!)

It's true that it is only 1 year so far, but I appreciate the attitude (unlike his usual attitude, being a teenage male!); enjoyment comes from pay-offs other than the final score.  If you respect your teammates, you can 'have fun' even if you lose every game in a total blow-out.  Did you 'respect the game' - yes, you're a winner, regardless of the score; no, you're a loser even if you 'won'.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 27, 2005, 02:31:14 AM
I did note that, somebody. Keep that in mind before you accuse somebody of not reading.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 27, 2005, 07:47:50 AM
OK d3somebody,

Prove my points?  I don't see how I could get through to you. 

Why do I not think you can see the light?  Lets look at what you've said:

*You think that successful D3 schools are money makers??  Its not true...

*You think D3 schools should all be competitive because D3 players were not good enough to get into D1 schools

In D1, teams getting blown out year after year is accepted...because well, it's D1. In Division 3, it shouldn't happen.

At the D3 level, the kids do play for fun, you are right.  Maybe the kids at BU are having fun getting to play football even though they are losing games....I've played on crappy teams when I played and to a man everyone on those teams will tell you that we had a great time because we were competing with our close buddies.  I won't say winning and losing didn't matter, but it definitely didn't make us wish we weren't playing ball.

and you did say teams shouldn't get blown out in d3, which is completely assinine. 


Its ok though...keep attacking Pat Coleman and we won't have to read your posts much longer.  What is that about Bill Gates?

I don't really give a **** if you are Pongo or not, you've still been acting like a jackass on this board.  Your posts remind everyone of Pongo.....that is something I'd be embarrassed about.  Your antics here have worn thin on everyone.....When Pat Coleman responds, you should know you are on thin ice.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 27, 2005, 08:58:31 AM
BOARD-

This loser needs attention and we are feeding that need.

Ignore his posts and he dries up. How about it?

I still would like anyone out there to tell me what happened at the Cur(W) MAC game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on September 27, 2005, 09:19:23 AM
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I must hand it to you Pat Coleman, you are a whiz at the computer. The fact that you can look up random members IP adresses when they have done nothing is quite impressive. You should see if Bill Gates is hiring...hell...or see if he needs a replacement..
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You should maybe show a little respect for the man that gave us this great sight to post on.  Pat has done a tremendous job in supporting D3 athletics and should be commended on what he has done for d3 football with this sight alone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 27, 2005, 09:31:21 AM
Ereg rushed for around 53 yards and other than two big pass plays the falcons defense pretty much shut down Mac.  I think one problem is Mac spends more time conditioning their mouths rather than their bodies. Concordia ran circles around them and some players were puking at half time. Ereg is a good back but Concordia did not allow him to get going.  Same old stingy D. I don't mean to talk trash about Mac but after seeing some of my teamates getting punched and clawed on routine plays at the bottom of piles I am a lot less aprehensive.  Look out for #64 OT becuase he is such garbage ( I know after playing against him the last couple years and seeing his behavior). It is pretty sad that a senior should have to play as dirty as he does to make up for his lack of ability.  

I also agree with ignoring D3Somebody.  That could be the most annoying, childish person alive.  Shut up!  Ben players work as hard ( probably harder due to a lack of #'s) as anyone else in D3. We are here cause we love the game and as long as smaller schools provide the opportunity there will be players to fill the rosters.  They are having a really tough time, but there is no need to kick them while their down.  That being said this topic shoudl be dropped all together and D3(insert derogatory name here) should be ignored so he can get a life somwhere else.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 27, 2005, 09:32:37 AM
I could not have said it better myself Redman04
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 27, 2005, 09:34:54 AM
AUFB is correct, Pongo (d3nobody) loves the attention so if we stop responding to his ridiculous posts he'll have to go back to downloading porn in his mommy's basement, as d3football fan so correctly noted. Let's hear it for our benevolent administrator who helped clear up Pongo's worst kept secret. Thanks Pat and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 27, 2005, 09:50:07 AM
Mac must be a bunch of real class act these days.  First they decide that they need to run through the Wooster band.  Then after the beatin' they took by them, they decide that they need to run their mouths while playing a clearly weaker team at Tri State and now how they acted last week last week.  Embarrasing......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 27, 2005, 11:40:19 AM
How dumb is it to say that D3 can't compare to D1? I mean, first of all, a lot of D1 talent drops to D3 because of whatever reason, which means there are some pretty damned good players around, some that could eventually have pro ability.

Second of all, look at some of the results of some of these games. Rowan beat 1AA Robert Morris. Sure, the majority of the talent goes to D1, but there is no way you can give D3 the short end of the stick because there are some pretty good players at this level. That really makes these teams a lot of fun to watch, and their games are a hell of a lot more accessible than D1 games.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 27, 2005, 03:17:05 PM
Falcsfb-

Thanks for the update on Con(W) v MAC. how come your SID doesn't do summaries or stats?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 27, 2005, 03:57:00 PM
Interesting NCAA Ranking Stats for Con(W) v AU (10/1/05)

Total Offense            CON - 84
Total Defense            AU - 106
Rushing Offense         CON - 22
Rushing Defense         CON - 83
Passing Offense         AU - 147
Passing Efficiency D    AU - 56
Scoring Offense         CON - 40
Scoring Defense         AU - 126
Turnover Margin         AU - 70
Special Teams           CON - 55 (avg.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on September 27, 2005, 04:54:58 PM
I was at the Wooster game and I don't recall when Mac ran through their band. When did this happen?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 27, 2005, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on September 27, 2005, 03:57:00 PM
Interesting NCAA Ranking Stats for Con(W) v AU (10/1/05)

Total Offense            CON - 84
Total Defense            AU - 106
Rushing Offense         CON - 22
Rushing Defense         CON - 83
Passing Offense         AU - 147
Passing Efficiency D    AU - 56
Scoring Offense         CON - 40
Scoring Defense         AU - 126
Turnover Margin         AU - 70
Special Teams           CON - 55 (avg.)

So the team that's featured with each respective stat is ahead of the other team I'm guessing? Meaning Concordia's offense is ranked higher than Aurora's?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 27, 2005, 11:26:38 PM
I'm not trying to be a dick AUFB05 but i don't understand your last post.  Are you saying that CON's O is going to be up against a tough D or what?  Seriously, I'm just confused.  I think it's going to be a good game regardless of stats.  Both teams always play hard.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 28, 2005, 09:30:21 AM
 The football season is at the mid way point for some and most of the teams in the IBC are already out of the running.
  There are only (3) teams, Aurora, Con, W and
   Lakeland still in the fray and that will change this
Sat, 10/1 as Aurora and Con,W play. Most years
(1) loss in conference play and your out of contention. That, to me, shows little parity in the conference. Last year was the exception though.
   Here`s how i see this sat shaking out:
    (1) Greenville.....Benedictine: Both teams looking for their first conference win. BU has been tourched pretty bad in their games and i don`t see any change this sat.  As a "football game" pitting 2 winless  teams it should be fun to watch. These guys will just line up and play.
  Greenville gets the "W".
   (2) Eureka.....Lakeland: Unfortunately for Eureka
   Lakeland has something to prove. That being they can play a game with out distractions and still run up the score.Their coach will turn the horses loss this sat........could be brutial. Lakeland was to strong for Bu and they will be to strong for Eureka.
  Lakeland gets the "W"
  (3) MacMurray......Con,Ill: What can you say?
     Con,Ill is winless in the IBC and Mac got hammered last week by Con,W.  Mac  got 2TD`s via the pass but gave up a ton of yards as their "D"
   disappeared. I`m sure the coach will work on his defense but your only as good as you`ve got.
   They have a really good R/B in P. Ereg but if the "O"line doesn`t help him out a little or put another way, if this is a team sport, where is the "O" line?
   Mac`s QB is no slouch either. the boy can play
   but again with out "some" help from the O-line
    the plays can`t/ don`t even get started.
   None of the above problems will come into play
   this sat as Mac is to much for Con,Ill.
    MacMurray gets the "W".
  (4) Aurora.....Concordia,W:  Forget last year. 
   This is a very important game for these teams.
    Loser goes home! By that i mean for the most part  the loser is just about finished as far as the championship goes. Back to that," one and done"
  thing.
  Aurora always seems to have good players  as does CW. Both prgrams have been fairly stable
  over the last few years ( coaching change noted)
  CW leveled Mac last week which says something about their "O" and "D".
   As these teams represent (2) of the big (3) teams in the IBC playing each other i`d say the winner has a leg up on the Conference title.
  I know Lakeland is still in the mix and could well
  change the overall out come but my comments are for this sat only.
  This will be a good game and maybe not as close as you would think.
   Concordia,W  gets the "W".
   As i have no stake in any team/school my comments are un-biased.
   
 
   
 
 

   

   
 

     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 28, 2005, 10:11:45 AM
Interesting Gomer-

Greens D is much stronger than it has been in the past years but nonetheless BEN will show that they can play FB, the tangible may be Greens starting QB who was hurt in last weeks game against AU. BEN gets the W

Eureka is doing some nice things but is no competition for LAKE. LAKE gets the W

I have no idea why MAC didn't give Con(W) a game. Their results were embrassing. MAC will take last weeks fustrations out on CON's little brother CON(IL). MAC gets the W

GAME OF THE SEASON - Without stats it is hard to guage Con(W) but they were certainly impressive last week. Their NCAA rankings seem to give them an edge. AU has the talent but seems to be struggling out of the gate. If they are going to pull it off their 1st & 2nd QTR stats will have to change.  AU has gone to the air and their QB knows how to thread the needle.  Con has put MAC away now it needs to do the same to AU leaving LAKE as the only game left to play for a real title. This is the first the first in the series for AU. I don't think AU will let their season end Saturday. Close game AU by 3
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 28, 2005, 12:08:20 PM
Greenville over Benedictine

Lakeland over Eureka

MacMurray over Concordia (Ill.)

and

I'm going to give Aurora the benefit of the doubt that the CUW/Mac game was a fluke, even though the final was just atrocious, but I still think CUW is the better team.

Concordia (Wis.) over Aurora
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 28, 2005, 12:10:25 PM
Mac07,

Heard ot from a couple of different people.  Hope it's not true...  Off subject, I wonder why homecoming is so late this year.  Any thoughts?

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 28, 2005, 02:11:16 PM
Aufb05-

       There should be a summary of the game up. If it isn't on the site then look at the score on d3football i know its there.  As far as stats go I'm not sure.  Also what is up with the Concordia Aurora stats? I don't quite follow.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 28, 2005, 06:40:44 PM
FALCSFB-

They are the current NCAA rankings for D3 on the different elements of FB by team and by player. I thought they where interesting stats that can give another perspective when trying to secound guess an outcome. They can be found on the NCAA web.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 28, 2005, 09:57:35 PM
Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 29, 2005, 09:28:41 AM
 Has anyone looked at the MacMurray Football
  web-site?  It`s a disaster!  Nobody is minding the store.
   They still show "Wooster" as the game of the week. What`s up with that?
  No stats what so ever. NONE!
   The team picture is of the 2004 team.
   The current roster(2005) is correct but they have
     it listed as the 2004 team.
  Plus when the previous SID quit so did the web-casting of their football games. 
    There is more but you get the picture.
    The "new" SID must be overwhelmed  as
    nothing is getting done. Mac looks like it has already moved to the SLAC. 
   It`s football season and this is, in some cases,
    the only way out- of- state parents can keep track of what`s going on.  Put in different terms......
    This is MICKEY MOUSE!! 
   To the current SID i would say, If your getting paid to do the job.........get-er done.

     
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 29, 2005, 11:24:02 AM
Gomer-

When it comes to stats Con(W) site falls into the same hole as MAC.

Talk about sites what happened to the "Official" IBFC web-site? When it was up and running it was Mickey Mouse. I'm just a fan but your right - I can only wonder what the players parents think.

If it wasn't for Pat Coleman & Company D3 would be almost non-existent.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 29, 2005, 11:31:04 AM
http://www.illinibadger.org/

Just found it. IBFC "new and improved"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2005, 11:38:42 AM
Tricky, aufb05. That's the one we link to from our standings page, after all. :)

http://www.d3football.com/conference_info.php?conf=IBC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 29, 2005, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on September 29, 2005, 11:24:02 AM
Gomer-

When it comes to stats Con(W) site falls into the same hole as MAC.

Talk about sites what happened to the "Official" IBFC web-site? When it was up and running it was Mickey Mouse. I'm just a fan but your right - I can only wonder what the players parents think.

If it wasn't for Pat Coleman & Company D3 would be almost non-existent.   
 AUFb05:
  This Div-3 website is what brings all these D3 schools to the fore front as far as  public awareness goes, just look at the "visitors" numbers on their home page. Your comments are so noted.
  As for the IBFC web-site: New or old it always starts out like a house on fire then after a bit: old stats, old news, it just seems to run out of gas.
  Earlier sites looked like they were designed by some middle-schooler. The current one has the look of an up-grade but seems to be falling into the same: don`t have time, nobody sent me stats,
 the computer guy is sick or it`s just to much to keep up. 
  I certainly appreciate the efforts of who ever is
  behind the IBFC site but if you take on the job,
  keep it current or fold it . I`d rather see that than
  let it become an out-dated source of information.
   Last year the site was pretty good(all year long)
   What happened ??
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: falcon on September 30, 2005, 05:09:28 PM
Sorry I have been so late and absent in recent time... Looks like CUW had 2 tough games against Big Schools.  But I thought someone said Mac was better than their 2002 team... doesn't look like that from what CUW did to them?

Thoughts about who is going to win the conference, or who does ever win the conference how much of a chance do they have against a playoff team...


Good Luck to the teams this year.!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 01, 2005, 03:17:34 PM
At the Half - Greenville 28 - Ben 13
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 01, 2005, 04:05:36 PM
at the end of 3 - Greenville 28 - Ben 21
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 01, 2005, 04:48:46 PM
Final Score - Greenville 34 - Benedictine 33
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: falcon on October 01, 2005, 06:58:01 PM
Looks like that was a good game, almost as good as the Michigan/MSpU game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 02, 2005, 12:28:08 AM
Just read Cur(w) release - It wasn't quite accurate

AU lost the game on a kick off return fumble deep in CUR territory which resulted in a CUR score. CUR should thank the FB Gods for the win and tell their SID not to write smack. CUR is a one dimensonal running team with no QB to speak of. AU put themselves away - Lakeland will have no problem putting them (CUR) away. Still can't figure out what happen at the MAC game. CUR is good but nowhere near impressive, but what do I know I'm just a fan.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 02, 2005, 06:58:52 AM
 Games went as expected. Next couple of weeks that will change though.
  Best game: Greenville and Bu. 
  Lakeland beats up on another weak team.
  Mac wins. Not much to say on that one.
  Concordia,W and Aurora: CW did what they had to do and beat Aurora.
  Strange things can happen in the next few weeks but the LC vs CW should be for all the marbles.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 02, 2005, 01:34:28 PM


AU lost the game on a kick off return fumble deep in CUR territory which resulted in a CUR score. CUR should thank the FB Gods for the win CUR is a one dimensonal running team with no QB to speak of. AU put themselves away - Lakeland will have no problem putting them (CUR) away.  CUR is good but nowhere near impressive, but what do I know I'm just a fan.
Quote

What about AU's first score on a blocked punt? Or two pass interferance calls that were bogus (one on fourth down to keep the drive alive along with a dropped pass supposedly caught) ? Or a personal foul late hit on the quaterback when he dove into a defender trying to get the first down? Or the 4th and goal from the 1 foot line when a false start was called, even the the play was on sound (I'm not sure how that works)? I don't want to take anythign away from AU but the score was not indicative of how the game really was.  CUW shut AU down exept for two plays. AU (like a good team does) capitalized but CUW left a lot of points on the field. 

Thats ok we will take 375 yards rushing and stay one dimensional.  How about three guys with over 100 yards rushing. Sounds like domination to me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 02, 2005, 01:44:06 PM
Some LC players told me the eureka coaches were crying after they got smashed by Lakeland that Lakeland had no class. Lakeland played every QB on its roster - and Eureka could not stop any of them. So Eureka, what is Lakeland supposed to do? Ask its players to take a knee because you can't tackle anyone? Boy that would make your players feel better, right? And Eureka, how about trying to run something that resembles on offense so you can spend just a few minutes in the opponent's territory? I don't blame the Eureka players - they are coached so poorly. When after the game you have to cry like that, instead of challenging your players to get better, it's a sign of very poor leadership.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 02, 2005, 05:44:41 PM
falcsfb-

I quess we all saw the game differently- you, me and the Refs. The point I was trying to make is that Cur(w) can't beat Lakeland with its present offense.

Unless AU takes Lake at the end and creates another '04 - Lake wins conference and represents. Our game went to the wire - we throw, you run - Lake does both.

Cur(w) Lake and AU are dying in this conference. As much the IBC has given us these teams the opporunity to play musical conference leaders - it hasn't given them the opportunity to get better. They need to play teams like themselves each week. I thought the game was good, the reviews slanted and it's a pity it will take another year before they meet again. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 02, 2005, 07:11:56 PM
Boy you said it aufb - the balance of this league just kills the decent teams. Aurora took steps forward to that first IBFC playoff win last season, and hopefully someone can break through this season. That's not to pretend that LC, CUW and AU are nationally contenders - but programs like CURF and Eureka are among the worst in the nation, and pounding them week after week each doesn't help anyone. The switch to the Lake Michigan Conf can't come soon enough. Unfortunately it's still two seasons away after this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 03, 2005, 12:25:57 PM
Unfortunately I don't think that's going to help much. I'm not sure if it's exactly a huge step going from Eureka to WLC and Maranatha.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 03, 2005, 12:50:34 PM
Who else makes up the rest of the conference?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 03, 2005, 01:31:30 PM
 The IBFC has no parity. Like i said before ," one and done".  Meaning one loss and your season is
 over............most of the time.
 After every game there is a rush to get the would-
 a, should-a, could-a, weather related, refs were "homers", reasons why a certain team lost .
 As far as i can tell it`s still who has the most points at the end of the 4th qt. OT included.
 It makes for good reading but that`s about it.
 Maybe blaming the loss on the above reasons
 feels better.
 The winner gets the "W" and the loser gets to
  lament about the would-a, could-a theory.
  One school in particular uses the " Theory" win or lose. Go figure.
  Picks for this saturdays games will be up on wednesday. So far i think i`m right at 100%. Not gloating by any means as all the games played out as expected.  Here`s a good spot for the, One and done thing or the no parity thing. IMO.
 Just some thoughts, as usual not ment to ruffle
 any feathers.
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 03, 2005, 02:40:51 PM
Gomer-

Lake over MAC - Can't imagine this being close. Lake wants this conference all by themselves.

AU over BEN - Coaching will be interesting. Some new AU numbers might be seen due to injuries. AU has gone through three TB trying to develop a running game. Wonder who will get the call this week.

Con(W) over Con(I) - Blow out of the week. Con(W) running game may break IBFC rushing records this week or they might try to establish a passing game. My bet is on the rushing record.

Green over Eureka - GRN defense will dominate the bottom IBFC four for the rest of the season.

and its only Monday.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 03, 2005, 03:39:34 PM
auFBo5:  Now what am i going to do?
   Your "picks" are so noted. 
   This week will be easy by that i mean no biggies
   playing each other.
   Wednesday is the day for my picks. Maybe a
   commentary of sorts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 03, 2005, 03:56:26 PM
Gomer-

Don't you wish they made BEN pay Mondays (in their new stadium) under the lights. It sure would break up the week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 03, 2005, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 03, 2005, 03:56:26 PM
Gomer-

Don't you wish they made BEN pay Mondays (in their new stadium) under the lights. It sure would break up the week.

Is  that a  municpal stadium and or Bu`s only?
   I thought i saw somebody on here mentioned that.  Just wondering.
   If they have lights (for night games) makes you wonder why they don`t. 
   Win or lose , people like night football games.
   Here`s another thought as to why not, in direct
   competition with HS games. Most HS`s charge
    for tickets to help their athletic  programs.  I`m talking saturday night`s here.
    Forget mondays. that`s a recover day after the week-end.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 03, 2005, 08:13:37 PM
Gomer,
    Ben did have 2 night games this year against carthage and elmhurst and they have two games at 3 oclock but it is probably hard to get teams such as LC, Greenville, MacMurray, Eureka to schedule night games because these teams dont have the money to stay an extra night in a hotel and most coaches would proally like to be home on late sat night than sunday afternoon. Plus i doubt the players from these schools would appreciate an all night bus ride after a game.  But you are right night games are def better.  I'm suprised they arent playing AU at night.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 04, 2005, 02:27:56 AM
I couldn't agree more with the night games. Went down to Lakeland and Carthage and not only saw a great game but it was under the lights too. Can't ask for much more than that.

If you got lights, I'd milk it for all it's worth if I were you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 04, 2005, 06:14:00 PM
Benedictine does not play under the lights much because it is not their decision. In fact, they do not have first priority. The Village of Lisle owns the field...and they decide who plays. Lisle High School has first priority.

By the way, why has Benedictine not updated their stats in 3 weeks on their website?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 04, 2005, 06:56:20 PM
D3Nobody-

We thought you got lost. Nice to hear from you again. I know the Mayor of Lisle - you won't mind if I verify your post, will you?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 04, 2005, 11:24:19 PM
You are so clever with your nicknames...D3Nobody... ::)

I know Joe also...verify my post? It's a fact...what...did you think Benedictine owned the field? But again...we know that you know it all... ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 04, 2005, 11:50:18 PM
I would like to comment on the CURF Mac matchup this past week.  I live near CURF (and also thinking about going to school there), so I decided to attend a game or two this year.  It was 14-14 halfway through the 3rd quarter before Mac started to pull away, I thought CURF was actually going to pull it out for awhile there.  14-7 before halftime with a chance to go up 21-7, they played well

It was ashame that Mac pulled away on two huge plays, I thought CURF may pull an upset for 3 quarters there. 

Anyhow, I agree that next week could be an ugly game, maybe 60-70 points being put up on CURF, CUW will probably win conference in my opinion........but then get slaughtered by 30-40 points in the playoffs of course, don't forget about my prediction.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on October 05, 2005, 12:28:24 AM
BASEMAN201--Since you have an interest in CURF maybe you can tell me what their plans are when the IBC breaks up.  I am sure they will keep playing, but where? :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2005, 08:17:02 AM
 The games on Oct 8th will be game 6 for some and at this point in time nothing earth shaking has happened.  Weak teams getting blasted by the upper echelon teams is the norm. Again this shows there is no parity in the IBFC. 5 teams with (1) win in conference play. (2) still looking for a "W".
  The schedule this week will not change the standings to any great degree as there will be no
surprises. IMO, the best game this week will be
  Greenville vs Eureka. Both are 1 and1 in conference play meaning a win by either team would put them in a tie for second place With
  Aurora who, by the way, will take BU. If i`m wrong i`m sure you will re-educate me.
   So my picks for this weeks(10/8) are :


    (1)  Lakeland over Mac.  Mac will get blasted as
      lakeland needs to show they can "beat-up" on
      a better than average team. Look at last year, Mac had a pretty good team but got hammered .
      This years team (Mac) hasn`t shown much as they are 1-1 in conference play.
    (2) Aurora vs Benedictine:  This looks to be a train wreck for BU.  With out a conference win
   and Au coming off what some thought was a "we was robbed" game last week, AU will roll. Give the players at BU their props though as they show up and play!
   (3) Con,W vs Con,Ill:  What can you say? CW is tied for the conference lead, playing good football
   and could be .........could be on top at the end of the season.
   Concordia,Ill is 0-2 in conference play and headed south. They are some what like Bu in that they come to play but just don`t have (enough) good players to really compete with most of the IBC teams. Coaching changes,bad weather,etc so noted.
  (4) Greenville vs Eureka: Both are 1-1 in conference play and one will be tied for 2nd in the IBC after the game.........for a while anyway.
   This is a "pick-m" game as they are about even.
   Looks to be a really good D-3 game. No body is going to run up the score but just play and have fun.
   My comments are not ment to ruffle any feathers.
   
   
   
   
     
     
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2005, 08:43:39 AM
D3Somebody: You mentioned the lack of stats being posted at BU.  My guess, the schools SID
  is not doing his/her job.  If you look at the Mac football site you`ll se the same .........nothing.
  In fact they still have 2004 information still posted . Talk about a lame site. ]
   Some of the "bigger" named schools in D3 have some really sharp football sites. Well laid out,
  nice clear pictures and the most importantly  they are always kept current.  Mount Union just to name one.
  Lots of "viewers" look to these sites for information and i`m sure there are other reasons
so you would think somebody,,,,,,,anybody would
  keep these sites up and current. Oops, i forgot, this is the IBFC.
  Anybody else want to chime in on the stat or SID issue?
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 05, 2005, 09:24:31 AM
Gomer-

AU isn't big on pictures but it has the best IBFC stat site, a two deep roster would complete it.


D3Sombody-

"JOE" - that's rich, I'll pass it along.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 05, 2005, 12:11:51 PM
D3somebody,
   If you are that informed you would know that although the sports complex is not owned by Benedictine it is run by the university and it is the univeristy that provides the staff among other things.  Lisle HS plays on friday nights and thus has no conflict with sat night games.  And the university does get top priority on the field, if lisle had top priority don't you think they would be practicing on the field everyday? So enough about BU not owning the field, it is a partnership with the city of lisle and if you were that informed you would know this information.  And this partnership is going to do a lot of great things for BU football and the university didn't even have to front the money for it. Sounds like a great deal for BU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 05, 2005, 01:35:19 PM
Gomer,

Benedictine does not have a full-time SID. So they don't have anyone to do or not do his/her job. From what I understand they haven't had one for a while and are kind of scrambling to find someone on their staff who can take care of SID duties in their spare time while juggling their full-time responsibilities as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: wlcalum on October 05, 2005, 01:41:30 PM
How about a student to keep things up to date. You can't tell me students don't know how to use a computer.   :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2005, 03:32:45 PM
Big-uns, wlcalum:
   My idea is to have the computer dept of each school, with-in the IBC, handle the daily / weekly imput  of information ref what ever sport is on tap.
  Students who participate would receive credit
towards their degrees or some kind of credit.
  Give them free reign to design/ lay out and cultivate it all year long. This would be a project rather than a "job." and as they would have something of themselfs invested i`m sure the
  finished product would be well done. Something that would make most schools proud.
  As it is now( just look at Mac`s site for one) is a
  joke! This is a college run/maintained site and it`s been totally forgotten! Shameful. It`s the schools obligation to maintain all their web-sites with-out question so why are there so many in dis-repair?
  That`s the question guys.
  wlcalum, you touched on it ...i just went a little further with it. This thing could be pasted on year after year and the product, with the infusion of new contributors, would have a life of it`s own.
  No more ...MICKEY MOUSE... but hey,have you seem the athletic site at so and so ? really nice.
OOPS, I forgot again, this is the IBC.
 

 
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 05, 2005, 04:40:00 PM
You know, as long as we're on the subject...Who do you think handles that stuff the best? I know neither CUW nor Mac had the score of that game up until late Saturday night so I'm ruling them out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2005, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on October 05, 2005, 04:40:00 PM
You know, as long as we're on the subject...Who do you think handles that stuff the best? I know neither CUW nor Mac had the score of that game up until late Saturday night so I'm ruling them out.

Mac does not have the "first" score up yet.  I`ll
  tell you how bad Mac is. Their web-site still shows
  Wooster as the game of the week and that was week-1. How bad is that??
As far as CUW goes at least they post stats on their site. They may be late but they getum up.
So to answer your question it looks like CUW....
Even the "new" IBFC site is sputtering in terns of
  posting in a timely manner. It`s a much better site by far but  i guess it`s still growing.
 
   


 


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 05, 2005, 10:15:17 PM
Quote from: footballfan05 on October 05, 2005, 12:11:51 PM
D3somebody,
   If you are that informed you would know that although the sports complex is not owned by Benedictine it is run by the university and it is the univeristy that provides the staff among other things.  Lisle HS plays on friday nights and thus has no conflict with sat night games.  And the university does get top priority on the field, if lisle had top priority don't you think they would be practicing on the field everyday? So enough about BU not owning the field, it is a partnership with the city of lisle and if you were that informed you would know this information.  And this partnership is going to do a lot of great things for BU football and the university didn't even have to front the money for it. Sounds like a great deal for BU.

I know that the sports complex is run by the University. Why would I say anything differently? Of course they run it...it is on their property. Who else would run it?

Again, the University does not have top priority. If that was the case, they would be playing all night games, which they aren't. Benedictine hosts other events during that time...high school soccer games, high school football games, playoff high school football games, semi-pro games, etc.

And no...why would Lisle need to practice on the field everyday? What would be the point of them taking a bus to practice everyday...even if it is down the block...when they have a field right outside of their school? What would be the point of that? Use your head...which you didn't do in your last post.

And I never said that it would not do great things for the University. Other people using the complex just gives BU a better name. People who know nothing about actually paid for the field ASSUME that Benedictine is just this great school who likes to host different events because they are great people. The truth is...the administration has no choice. They didn't pay for the field, therefore it is not their decision what goes on there.

Thank you for strengthening by case.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 05, 2005, 11:20:56 PM
D3somebody
Carthage, 2 home games at night 2 during the day/ North Central, 3 home day games 2 night games(1 vs BU).  Both of these schools own their fields so can you explain why they dont play all night games for me? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 11:24:12 PM
It's been a few years since I lived in the Midwest but if I recall correctly, eventually it gets cold at night during the football season.  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 05, 2005, 11:50:13 PM
Quote from: footballfan05 on October 05, 2005, 11:20:56 PM
D3somebody
Carthage, 2 home games at night 2 during the day/ North Central, 3 home day games 2 night games(1 vs BU).  Both of these schools own their fields so can you explain why they dont play all night games for me? 

How would I be able to speak for North Central or Cartahge? And just because North Central or Carthage plays that amount, why would it be the same for Benedictine? Care to explain?

Benedictine...brand new football field....brand new sports complex....wouldn't you play more night games IF you could? I'd imagine so...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 05, 2005, 11:51:23 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 11:24:12 PM
It's been a few years since I lived in the Midwest but if I recall correctly, eventually it gets cold at night during the football season.  :)

And it's not cold during the day ???

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 11:54:41 PM
It's colder at night, though, come on. Give me a break, there's no need to contradict everything everyone says.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 06, 2005, 12:08:18 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 11:54:41 PM
It's colder at night, though, come on. Give me a break, there's no need to contradict everything everyone says.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 11:24:12 PM
It's been a few years since I lived in the Midwest but if I recall correctly, eventually it gets cold at night during the football season.  :)

What would you call that then?

All I'm saying is that it's going to be cold at night or during the day during football season...and the fact that BU has games at 3:00 late in the season....well they really weren't thinking about the cold, were they?

Why am I even defending myself though....this is Football...if you can't play football in the cold then you shouldn't be playing football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2005, 12:12:31 AM
Hmm, yeah, but it's not with the players in mind, it's with the hope that some people might actually go to the games!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 06, 2005, 01:14:20 PM
Why respond to D3Nobody? This guy gets his jollies off gumming the BU administration/Coaches/Players. If he is such a hero, he should go save BU from whatever he thinks is wrong with it.

I got to tell you D3Nobody - you have serious problem and it isn't D3 football at BU. :-*
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 06, 2005, 06:20:55 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 06, 2005, 01:14:20 PM
Why respond to D3Nobody? This guy gets his jollies off gumming the BU administration/Coaches/Players. If he is such a hero, he should go save BU from whatever he thinks is wrong with it.

I got to tell you D3Nobody - you have serious problem and it isn't D3 football at BU. :-*

The son of God couldn't be a hero and save BU...but that's not the point.

How am I the one with the problem? Every post you have ever made here has never proven one point...what gives?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 06, 2005, 10:31:17 PM
D3S,

You didn't have a whole lot of credibility earlier, but if you can't understand the difference between October days and October nights for the (hoped for) fans in the stands, I'm starting to wonder about the quality of the admissions office at BU!   :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 06, 2005, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: fsufan on October 05, 2005, 12:28:24 AM
BASEMAN201--Since you have an interest in CURF maybe you can tell me what their plans are when the IBC breaks up.  I am sure they will keep playing, but where? :)
CURF is joining the new league being formed by the Lake Michigan Conference and the NIIC - that league will have football beginning in 2008 when the IBC disappears.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 06, 2005, 10:57:14 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 06, 2005, 10:31:17 PM
D3S,

You didn't have a whole lot of credibility earlier, but if you can't understand the difference between October days and October nights for the (hoped for) fans in the stands, I'm starting to wonder about the quality of the admissions office at BU!   :o

Since when are football games scheduled around the fans convenience? And is a difference of 30-40 fans really going to make a difference because of the weather? If people are fans...they are going to come to the game...if they aren't, they won't.

People questioning the starting time of games for the FANS sake at a Division 3 school...and you question my credibility  ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 06, 2005, 11:09:27 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2005, 08:43:39 AM
D3Somebody: You mentioned the lack of stats being posted at BU.  My guess, the schools SID
  is not doing his/her job.  If you look at the Mac football site you`ll se the same .........nothing.
  In fact they still have 2004 information still posted . Talk about a lame site. ]
   Some of the "bigger" named schools in D3 have some really sharp football sites. Well laid out,
  nice clear pictures and the most importantly  they are always kept current.  Mount Union just to name one.
  Lots of "viewers" look to these sites for information and i`m sure there are other reasons
so you would think somebody,,,,,,,anybody would
  keep these sites up and current. Oops, i forgot, this is the IBFC.
  Anybody else want to chime in on the stat or SID issue?
 

Gomer,

You can't blame the SID for this one.....EVERY fall sport for Benedictine is updated to their last game except football....soccer and volleyball play 2-3 games/week....that's much harder to keep track of than one football game.

I guess BU doesn't want the public knowing their football stats...because they haven't been updated since week two. Oh well...guess I'll just have to keep going to the other team's website who they played that week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 06, 2005, 11:27:24 PM
D3S,

If you're only talking a 30-40 fan difference between 60+ and sunny, vs. 40+ and dark, you have far greater problems than I can address.

Let's just say that with a day game you have a CHANCE of including casual fans; with a nite game you will get only the die-hard fans - if you really think that is only a difference of 30-40, I shudder for your your program.  (At any CCIW school I'd estimate that is a 500-1500 difference.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 07, 2005, 12:42:29 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 06, 2005, 11:27:24 PM
D3S,

If you're only talking a 30-40 fan difference between 60+ and sunny, vs. 40+ and dark, you have far greater problems than I can address.

Let's just say that with a day game you have a CHANCE of including casual fans; with a nite game you will get only the die-hard fans - if you really think that is only a difference of 30-40, I shudder for your your program.  (At any CCIW school I'd estimate that is a 500-1500 difference.)

I have problems because the difference in fans at BU would only be 30-40 if the game was played in the day vs in the night?...I'm confused...that makes no sense. I would almost think that MORE fans would go to night games vs day games(i.e. volleyball, soccer, cross country day games). They would all be free to attend the night games. But who am I? You seem to know more than I do about Benedictine.

Shudder for the program all you want. We're not talking about the CCIW anyways. If you want to talk about that conference, I believe there is a board for it, right?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 12:51:56 AM
D3S,

Time to bag the belligerence crap. If you're just going to be a troll then you're not going to do it on our board.

Consider this an official warning.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 07, 2005, 09:39:48 AM
Pat-

Thanks for finally lumping this guy.



Maddog-

Don't tell us the season got to intense for posting on the the board. What's your non-bias opinion on the upcoming Lake - CUW game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 07, 2005, 11:15:05 AM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 07, 2005, 09:39:48 AM
Pat-

Thanks for finally lumping this guy.



Maddog-

Don't tell us the season got to intense for posting on the the board. What's your non-bias opinion on the upcoming Lake - CUW game.
 
Let the guys play this weeks games first. See how things pan out.
  Plenty of time to discuss the CW vs LC game.
  Your right about one thing though, where is Maddog? I`m sure he has his reasons for not "posting" though.
  I hope all that "chest thumping" didn`t wear him out.  This isn`t  cut and run time it`s stand-up and deliver time.  Maddog, i`m calling you out. 
  Just messin with ya, put down the colt.

  D3Somebody: My comments ref:SID`s were related to the football site only.  Maybe my comments were a little blurry but that was my intention.
 
 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on October 07, 2005, 11:28:52 AM
No disrespect intended, but you Illini-badger guys are a bunch of whiners. No wonder the CCIW owns you. No need to respond I will be back posting on my own board, where football is the main topic not the weather or how lousy IBC is. Everyone in America already knows this. How bout talkin about what can be done to improve them!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 07, 2005, 01:02:11 PM
Just listening, as for CUW it will be a great game.  I just want to take it one game at a time. I will give my thoughts before next week if that is ok with you all. Interesting post going on. Good luck to IBFC teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on October 07, 2005, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: fsufan on October 05, 2005, 12:28:24 AM
BASEMAN201--Since you have an interest in CURF maybe you can tell me what their plans are when the IBC breaks up.  I am sure they will keep playing, but where? :)

I hadn't heard that the IB conference was going to be broken up, anybody know the "official" reason?  Where will the teams go or has it not been decided?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 06:01:26 PM
The Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference is merging with the Lake Michigan Conference. A couple of schools aren't coming along. I don't have all the details handy.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 07, 2005, 11:41:54 PM
Quote from: redman04 on October 07, 2005, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: fsufan on October 05, 2005, 12:28:24 AM
BASEMAN201--Since you have an interest in CURF maybe you can tell me what their plans are when the IBC breaks up.  I am sure they will keep playing, but where? :)

I hadn't heard that the IB conference was going to be broken up, anybody know the "official" reason?  Where will the teams go or has it not been decided?

The merger begins next season for pretty much every sport, but due to some outstanding contracts football in this new league will not begin until 2008. Aurora, Benedictine, CURF, CUWI, Lakeland, Maranatha Baptist, Rockford, and Wisconsin Lutheran College will be the charter members in the new 8-team football league in 2008. It will be a much better league than the current IBFC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 08, 2005, 10:49:52 AM
Quote from: fishguy on October 07, 2005, 11:41:54 PM
It will be a much better league than the current IBFC.

Cross your fingers.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 08, 2005, 05:00:54 PM
My last post was deleted by Officer Coleman...let's see if this one stays.

Middle of 4th...Aurora 18 BU 0

Correct me if i'm wrong....but was it aufb05 that said Aurora was going to have this "outstanding" running game and that Travis Paro or the other tailback was going to be the first D3 player in history to win the Heisman.

For an Aurora team that was supposed to be "good"...why can't they put up more than 18 points on the worst team in the conference?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 08, 2005, 05:59:54 PM
Just got back from the Greenville vs. Eureka game.  Final score Greenville 49 - Eureka 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 08, 2005, 09:08:36 PM
Just got back from Lakeland. What a no class team. I saw more personal fouls called than in a combination of the entire season.
The crap at the end when the teams lined up to shake hands just proves my point. What I saw today from the "Muskies" shows me they are not worthy of representing the conference in the playoffs. I understand now why Whitewater put the starters back in on them
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 08, 2005, 09:54:56 PM
D3Nobody - Keep running your mouth and maybe we won't have to listen to your nonsense anymore.

AU 25 - Ben 0

Congrats to Green's 49 -0 win over Eureka. I said weeks ago that Green wasn't the same team it was a year ago. MAC should pay attention to the films this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 09, 2005, 11:22:04 AM
 Yesterdays games played out as predicted.
   The only game with any scoring was the Mac vs
   LC game. The rest were very one sided as indicated by the final scores. 
   This saturday, oct 15th, LC goes against Con,W
    in which should be the game that decides who
  really is top dog in the IBC. Aurora is still there but after just scoring 25 points on BU you have to wonder. Put another way, maybe BU is getting better.
 


   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: thekid on October 09, 2005, 11:29:14 AM
Quote from: mac07 on October 08, 2005, 09:08:36 PM
Just got back from Lakeland. What a no class team. I saw more personal fouls called than in a combination of the entire season.
The crap at the end when the teams lined up to shake hands just proves my point. What I saw today from the "Muskies" shows me they are not worthy of representing the conference in the playoffs. I understand now why Whitewater put the starters back in on them

SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE:
Someone from MacMurray College saying a team has no class.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 09, 2005, 12:11:35 PM
What clown are you? Have you been to a Mac game or do you just run your mouth. It was an outstanding game and a lot closer than the score suggests. There was no reason for the Muskies to become arrogant after the game. It just shows that they just can't win gracefully. Next week count the personal fouls, there will be more on Lakeland than the points they score against CUW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 09, 2005, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: mac07 on October 09, 2005, 12:11:35 PM
What clown are you? Have you been to a Mac game or do you just run your mouth. It was an outstanding game and a lot closer than the score suggests. There was no reason for the Muskies to become arrogant after the game. It just shows that they just can't win gracefully. Next week count the personal fouls, there will be more on Lakeland than the points they score against CUW.

I happened to catch the game - Mac is the dirtiest team in this league, and has been for years. Everyone in the IBC knows that. Their players start running their mouth the moment they walk off the bus, and one of their linebackers ran his mouth the whole game. They got flagged for unsportsman-like when a Mac player pickedup up a muffed extra point and was show boating as he ran into the end zone (which was called back because of another Mac penalty!) Mac players took cheap shots after nearly every tackle! It's too bad that Mac's program has taken such a slide backwards - their fans should demand that their players carry themselves with more class, which would begin by dumping their current head coach, who is a real clown. Fans sitting in the stands could hear him yelling "Bullsh**" at the Lakeland bench from across the field. It will be a joy to be a league without this program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 09, 2005, 02:05:40 PM
AU did not have it easy vs. BU the score was only 6 nothing until the middle of the third quarter.  BU's defense did a great job until late in the game.  The game was def a lot closer than the score shows and anyone at the game knows it.  AU's experience showed late in the game when they made some big plays, their qb made some great throws and the receivers caught tough passes.  This was the first game in about 4 or 5 years that BU was actually in the game with AU. This game was def a lot closer than the score indicates, but as usual BU's offense couldn't come through when they needed it being stopped in the red zone multiple times.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 09, 2005, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 08, 2005, 09:54:56 PM
D3Nobody - Keep running your mouth and maybe we won't have to listen to your nonsense anymore.

AU 25 - Ben 0

Congrats to Green's 49 -0 win over Eureka. I said weeks ago that Green wasn't the same team it was a year ago. MAC should pay attention to the films this week.

So I guess my post does hold true then since you had nothing to say about it....just making sure :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 09, 2005, 04:29:24 PM
FBFan05-

Your right BU was in it a lot more than AU wanted them to be. Even Nobody was right AU's running game is MIA. Aside from all that I love that stadium.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 09, 2005, 05:20:38 PM
Ok, LC vs. Mac.

LC didn't wake up from the homecomming hangovers until the 3rd quarter. They really need to get their act together before CUW next weekend if they expect to have a shot to win conference

Mac has always been dirty, even back 4 years ago when I got to this conference. Late hits, punters taking dives (I must say the first punt after the roughing the kicker penalty should be nominated for an oscar it was so funny). Yes there were some penalties, like a combined 28ish for more than 250 yards, i don' have the exact stats in front of me now, just estimates.

Yes Lakeland has in the last 3 years since Z's takeover increased in penalties. Most of which are NOT personal fouls. Most are pass interference, while there are some personal fouls, they are usually the just missed the tip of the ball and nicked the punter, or an occasional late hit, but everyone does those. All of those penalties come from having an aggressive defense.

However Lakeland does not beg and argue with a ref for a penalty, like in the case of #9 and #57 from Mac. It seemed that that was all they could do to try and swing some momentum their way, do I blame them, not so much, because they were a little desperate to win against what has become a force here in the IBFC. They are were Mac was and wants to get to again. Mac just needs to cut the crap and out play teams, not out talk them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 09, 2005, 06:06:27 PM
Sorry to bring the NFL into this, but the topic of penalties makes it irresistible.

In today's Lions-Ravens game, Baltimore outgained Detroit by well-over 100 yards, yet was decisively beaten (I believe the final was 35-17).  The Ravens had only one more turnover than the Lions, so that wasn't it.  But the all-time NFL record for penalties in a game is 22; the Ravens had 21 by early in the 4th (they somehow avoided picking up the record)!  They also had two players ejected (going to be an expensive game for a lot of Ravens once the league office chimes in)!

If the refs are doing their job, dirty play (quite a few of the penalties were personal fouls of one sort or another) will be its own punishment.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 09, 2005, 10:16:33 PM
AUFB05
 
I have only seen the game vs BU but its different seeing AU having to rely on the pass to win the game.  I wonder what happened that they are no longer the same run the ball down your throat AU that everyone is used to.  There o-line didnt seem to be the same type of players as the years before, different attitudes at least.  But luckily for them right now they do have a QB that can win them games and good receivers to go with him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 10, 2005, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: fishguy on October 09, 2005, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: mac07 on October 09, 2005, 12:11:35 PM
What clown are you? Have you been to a Mac game or do you just run your mouth. It was an outstanding game and a lot closer than the score suggests. There was no reason for the Muskies to become arrogant after the game. It just shows that they just can't win gracefully. Next week count the personal fouls, there will be more on Lakeland than the points they score against CUW.

I happened to catch the game - Mac is the dirtiest team in this league, and has been for years. Everyone in the IBC knows that. Their players start running their mouth the moment they walk off the bus, and one of their linebackers ran his mouth the whole game. They got flagged for unsportsman-like when a Mac player pickedup up a muffed extra point and was show boating as he ran into the end zone (which was called back because of another Mac penalty!) Mac players took cheap shots after nearly every tackle! It's too bad that Mac's program has taken such a slide backwards - their fans should demand that their players carry themselves with more class, which would begin by dumping their current head coach, who is a real clown. Fans sitting in the stands could hear him yelling "Bullsh**" at the Lakeland bench from across the field. It will be a joy to be a league without this program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 10, 2005, 09:57:54 AM
I guess you were on Lakeland side of the field and with the wind blowing in your face you couldn't see the entire game. I will agree there are afew who run their mouths and that will happen on every team. I guess 57 took a dive when they blocked the punt in the end zone. Real nice acting job. I am talking about the crap after the game when the Muskies had to run there mouth and not be satisfied with a win. Then to show how big they are to start a fight  was real good. I commend the coaches for ther work. As for dumping their coach, I went to the Tri State game and am glad my son plays for who he does and not Fry. I hate getting into these war on words because I love to go and support those who play. I have friends whose kids play at other IBC schools and love to see them play. I will support them also. I think the war of words should stop and just keep supporting the players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 10, 2005, 10:13:11 AM
FBFan05-

I'm not sure what happen to the AU running game. Paro doesn't start (he's not even on the 2 deep chart). The starting TB (36) is also the backup FB. He seems to lack the 1st gear to get him to the line to follow his blocks. The No. 1 FB is a big kid with some speed but he rarely if ever gets a hand-off (last years FB started TB mid-season and was factor that almost beat Wooster in the PO). I noticed AUs QB limping on Saturday. Lakeland will be keying on him the whole game if AU does't establish a running game. The new Coach has a couple of safe weeks ahead of him before Lake to mix it up. It will be interesting.

On the other hand CUW has a similiar problem no passing game. It was good to see them working on it against CUR. Could be to little to late.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 10, 2005, 03:09:20 PM
Quote from: mac07 on October 10, 2005, 09:57:54 AM
I guess you were on Lakeland side of the field and with the wind blowing in your face you couldn't see the entire game. I will agree there are afew who run their mouths and that will happen on every team. I guess 57 took a dive when they blocked the punt in the end zone. Real nice acting job. I am talking about the crap after the game when the Muskies had to run there mouth and not be satisfied with a win. Then to show how big they are to start a fight  was real good. I commend the coaches for ther work. As for dumping their coach, I went to the Tri State game and am glad my son plays for who he does and not Fry. I hate getting into these war on words because I love to go and support those who play. I have friends whose kids play at other IBC schools and love to see them play. I will support them also. I think the war of words should stop and just keep supporting the players.

Just so we all understand things here, the post-game fight started when a Mac player punched a LC player in the chest. So please don't come on here and make Lakeland out to be the bad guy. I don't want to fight on here either, but I'm not going to let someone bad mouth Lakeland kids when they don't deserve it. Their new coach has done wonders in terms of their players being respectful off the field and playing aggressive, fair football on the field. I wouldn't ask you not to support Mac's players, but I would ask you to put some pressure on that coach to clean up his act. It makes the whole league look bad.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 10, 2005, 03:23:41 PM
And were you standing in the middle of the field?? It started with a lakeland player calling each player he passed a derogatory name. I don't think that is cleaned up. I will agree it came in retaliation and shouldn't happen but don't lay all the blame on MAC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 10, 2005, 08:24:59 PM
There were plenty of derogatory names thrown around that day from both sides. But no one from Lakeland threw a punch in response or tried to take people out on the field after the play. Mac's reputation might be the result of a few players making bad decisions, but no one will argue that right now the program has a really negative reputation. That's my last post on it - sorry to keeping this going. You're welcome to the final word if you wish.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 10, 2005, 11:00:37 PM
Both teams probably could've handled each other a little better and turned the other cheek. No matter what the other team is doing it's not a smart idea to retaliate for anything.

Anyway, that was two days ago. How about we look ahead to this week. I think every fan of the IBFC should be in Mequon on Saturday. Just doesn't get any better than that. I can't wait.

What are everyone else's thoughts on that game and the others going on this weekend?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 11, 2005, 01:38:35 AM
not only should they have turned the other cheek, everyone who has ever played football knows that its the second person that gets caught everytime, no one notices the first act they always see the second though. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 11, 2005, 09:38:09 AM
IBFC Games for 10/15- ::)

AU over CUR - No surprises here, but it gives AU another chance to figure out what happen to their running game and another week for their injuries to mend.

Greenville over MAC - Greenville has come to play this year, their D has been the most impressive. Not sure what has happen to MAC. They could very well finish in the bottom four, a L saturday may clinch that postion standing. 

BEN over Eureka - Cooper gets his first win as a head coach.

LAKE over CUW - Lake comes to play with a healthy D. Their O provides a good ground and passing game. LAKE is hungry! CUW is still stuck on a one-demensional running game. This won't be last week - no time to practice an air attack against a weak D. For LAKE it will be 2 down 1 to go.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 11, 2005, 01:32:06 PM
aufb05
this is this first time i have posted but i follow ibc all the time are you a  player, coach or fan. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 11, 2005, 01:55:57 PM
mac07: You said in part," i`m glad my son plays for who he does and not coach Fry."
  I was wondering if you would care to expound on that a little? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 11, 2005, 02:17:42 PM
d3ftball1-

To old to play, to old coach, never to old to watch. For more years than I care to mention I did a little of each. Best football ever (D3). Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 11, 2005, 02:35:53 PM
aufb05

Thanks for your response. I was just wondering because you seem to have alot of knowledge about all the teams. I especially like your comments about Greenville. I'm alittle partial to the Panthers!  Your right d3 football is awesome.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 11, 2005, 07:21:13 PM
D3ftball-

The IBC is pretty typical, at least it has been in the last several years. Green was a pleasant surprise this season. I don't follow your players or coaches that much, but there was a hugh change in the D. You tell me. New Players? Coaching schemes? Whatever it was/is, it is good to see that football is alive and well in So. IL.

No harm intended but I thought your No. 2 QB does a  better job than the starter. The O seems to respond better to him. Anyway best wishes for the remainder of the season. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 11, 2005, 08:06:36 PM
aufb - Greenville has a new D-Coordinator this year, (was promoted from a regular assistant last year) other than that and the DB coach, the rest of the coaching staff is new this year.  Give them a little bit more time and their recruits and greenville should continue to develop a strong program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 11, 2005, 08:28:36 PM
aufb05

Like gvfan said the new d coordinator and the d coach are the only two coachs from last season.  The d coach was offense last year and has moved to defense where he is doing a great job.  Player wise a year experience form last years recruits really helps and I don't think they lost alot of seniors. Im not a past player or past coach so that is just my opinion and its not based on any great "football knowledge".  I agree with gvfan I think with the recruits and present players Greenville will develope a strong program.
Someone said something about the ibc not being a conference and they listed some teams that were going into another conference. They didn't mention Greenville. Does anyone know what conference they will be in?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2005, 07:39:04 AM
  (1) BU vs Eureka: 2 teams going no where but will play as if they were. This will be a good game to watch as 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2005, 08:09:50 AM
 (1) Bu vs Eureka: 2 teams going no where but will play like they are. This will be a good game for the fans.
   Bu gets it`s first win of the season. They`ve been getting better  and now the hard work pays off.
(2) Over the past few years Greenville has matched up with Mac pretty well. This season Greenville has 1 more conference win than Mac
and come saturday afternoon that could be 2.
  As Mac is not in the running for anything they need to get a "W" this saturday. They`ve got a good QB. A solid RB but no "O" line. That being said
  i`m going with, it`s a "pick-um" game.
(3) Aurora vs Con,Ill:  This will be a blow out. You hate to see Con,Ill get thumped every saturday but if you don`t have the horses that`s what happens.
  (4) Lakeland vs Concordia,W: Winner of this game  is in the drivers seat as far as the conference championship goes. Nothing earth shattering there.
  As this is a "home" game for CW i`m going with
  CW to get the "W".
As usual come saturday afternoon we`ll all know for sure who got the "W" that counts.


 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: falcon672003 on October 12, 2005, 12:33:43 PM
 Good luck to the CUW Falcons bring home the WIN and the cheese bowl trophy.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 12, 2005, 02:21:23 PM
Sat will be a great championship game. Goodluck to all IBFC teams this weekend.  Goooo Muskies bring home the CHEESE and TITLE.  Carthage and Whitewater should have prepared you for this special game you will face NO tougher opponent  then them. Focus, Focus.  You will HAVE to play MISTAKE FREE..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 13, 2005, 10:11:27 AM
Is David Benton's spot on this week's d3football.com Team of the Week the first player in the IBFC to receive that honor?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 13, 2005, 11:11:13 AM
Big Uns-

Yes, but I'm sure you already knew that. So what's the point?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 13, 2005, 12:57:57 PM
Actually I didn't know the answer to that question. That's why I asked it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2005, 01:50:44 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on October 13, 2005, 10:11:27 AM
Is David Benton's spot on this week's d3football.com Team of the Week the first player in the IBFC to receive that honor?

No............... WR #10 for MacMurray last year.  Week 4, 2004 season.
   He (#10) was also...... Conference Receiver of the Year (2004) for the IBFC. He graduated in the spring of 2005.
   May be others as well. Maybe.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2005, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on October 13, 2005, 10:11:27 AM
Is David Benton's spot on this week's d3football.com Team of the Week the first player in the IBFC to receive that honor?
 
I made a mistake in the above post . The correct answer is still............no............. #10 from Mac made the Div-3 Team of the week...2 times in 2004.
Week4 and week 11(games Nov12-13)
  I believe he is the only IBFC player to make it more than twice(2) since the IBFC was founded.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 13, 2005, 02:47:07 PM
Big Uns-

Gomer is right, my apologies. Actually, I thought you meant this yr. - I guess I didn't get the point.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 02:34:01 PM
At the end of the 1st Quarter - Greenville 7 - MacMurray 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 03:15:18 PM
At the end of the first Half....Greenville 16 - MacMurray 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 03:46:42 PM
Total yards at the half - Greenville 231 - MacMurray 29
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 15, 2005, 04:14:50 PM
Anymore updates gc_fan?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 04:15:20 PM
at the end of the 3rd quarter Greenville 16 - MacMurray 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 15, 2005, 04:30:13 PM
Score just went final in Mequon.

Lakeland - 17
CUW       - 14
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 04:36:27 PM
Greenville 23 - MacMurray 0 - with about 5 min. left in the game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 04:59:22 PM
Final Score Greenville 23 - MacMurray 6
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 15, 2005, 05:31:09 PM
 Lakeland looks to be in the drivers seat. Nice win
  for their program.
  Greenville over Mac .  From what i`ve read from
  information posted, Greenville must have  taken it to Mac.
  Anybody with "first" hand stats or comments on the Mac vs Greenville game?
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 15, 2005, 06:32:29 PM
GC-Fan-

Did I call it or what!! Nice win Green - welcome to IBFC's front 4. Next to Coach Cooper's 1st Coolege W. Next to Lake, see you in a couple weeks. Finally to AU, nice to see you back Paro.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 15, 2005, 09:07:35 PM
Nice win for Lakeland on Saturday, especially being down 14-0 early. Lakeland's defense was very impressive the final three quarters - press releases from both schools said they held CUW to 40 yards in the second half, which is not easy. Lakeland still has a home game with Aurora and a road trip to Greenville to end the season, so as long as they don't play like they have already won the conference, the confernece title is theirs to win/lose.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 09:21:23 PM
Gomer - I listened to the Greenville/MacMurray game on the radio.  I recall you posting in the middle of the week referring to Mac.... "They`ve got a good QB. A solid RB but no "O" line. That being said  i`m going with, it`s a "pick-um" game." - from what it sounded like, over the radio, the last part was true in that MacMurra had no "O" line and the Greenville defense took advantage of it.  I did not hear the final stats, but I do know that at half time, MacMurray had negative 27 rushing yards....... the MacMurray QB was under pressure all day resulting in several sacks etc. and the RB was tackled in the backfield quite a bit for losses.  The one MacMurray score was for 56 yards, and it was a result of the Greenville defender falling down.  It sounded like the Greenville offense showed up in that they had 231 yards of total offense in the first half and was pretty balanced, they had a few other drives that were "clicking" that stalled as a result of a couple of fumbles so the score could have been worse than what it was.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 09:33:35 PM
aufb05 - Thanks..... I worked as a student manager for Greenville from '98-'01 seasons so it was fun to be around the team when we were respectable in the conference and so it is nice to see them on the rebound and start to be a contender.  As I said in a post earlier this week, a lot of the coaching staff is new this year and so this could be the beginning of something special in a few years once they get their players etc.  They host CUW next week for homecoming so it should be a good game to see how Greenville can match up against a top team in the conference. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 16, 2005, 08:12:00 AM
gc_fan: Thanks for some back ground on the Mac
  vs Greenville game.  Greenville always played Mac well in the pass so it`s not a total surprise that GC
  got the "W".  Course i`m sure Mac would think other wise.
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 16, 2005, 10:36:51 AM
GC_Fan-

I knew at the end of the GRN-AU game to GRN would would be force this year. I'm just happy its CUW and LAKE playing GRN at the end of the season and not AU. This certainly will be an interesting end to regular play. Think about it, two key wins and GRN could get the "C" and represent. Who would have thought. You got to love this game!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 16, 2005, 04:58:57 PM
And a big congratulations to Benedictine for beating the worst team in the conference and being cocky about it :)

Wait until Conc-Wisc d-lineman literally eat your runningbacks  :'(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 16, 2005, 07:23:03 PM
OMG, NOT literally (I hope) - I'm pretty sure that cannibalism is AT LEAST a 15-yard penalty!  (And there will probably be kids at the game...)  :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on October 17, 2005, 12:15:43 PM
Insert Quote 
And a big congratulations to Benedictine for beating the worst team in the conference and being cocky about it

Wait until Conc-Wisc d-lineman literally eat your runningbacks   


Awww, poor Pongo.  No one invited him to join at the lunch table and he had to eat alone.  It's ok honey, I'm sure your mom will comfort you and help you deal with your rejection. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 17, 2005, 01:03:17 PM
Actually Pongo-

BEN and CUR have worse statistical records than Eureka.  :-*
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 17, 2005, 06:08:21 PM
Quote from: TBaggins on October 17, 2005, 12:15:43 PM
Insert Quote 
And a big congratulations to Benedictine for beating the worst team in the conference and being cocky about it

Wait until Conc-Wisc d-lineman literally eat your runningbacks   


Awww, poor Pongo.  No one invited him to join at the lunch table and he had to eat alone.  It's ok honey, I'm sure your mom will comfort you and help you deal with your rejection. 

You're pretty funny :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 17, 2005, 06:09:16 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 17, 2005, 01:03:17 PM
Actually Pongo-

BEN and CUR have worse statistical records than Eureka.  :-*

Way to dig up that info....you are really good  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 18, 2005, 02:35:59 PM
Haha, well he didn't really have to "dig" up that info, it was pretty self explanatory that BEN and CURF are the worst teams in the conference.  But, BEN is the best 0-7 team I have ever seen.  They hung with Aurora till the 4th quarter, almost beat Greenville, beat Eureka.  They aren't as bad as most are assuming they are.

With BEN and CURF, when you have 30-40 players on the team, it's hard to find the talent that CUW or Lakeland has with 80 guys on the team.  Until BEN and CURF can get some recruits, and get up to 50 guys, then 60, then 70.  They will have 0-10, 1-9, 2-8 seasons for awhile to come.  Even Eureka could go 1-9 this year. (although I have been to Eureka, and the place is a dump.....no offense of course  :))  Once the winning starts, the recruits start coming in, or that's the way it's supposed to be. 

One problem for CURF, as well as BEN (maybe) could be the price of education.  D-III football players pretty much pay to play football, since there are no football scholarships given.  When it's almost $30,000/year to go to CURF, and possibly close to that for BEN, of course a player will want to go to a cheaper school........although CUW would be the same tuition since they are part of the Concordia system, and they are good................hmmmm, maybe guys have more telent in Wisconsin, or maybe it's just Chicago then.  yeah, no one likes Chicago, that has to be it,  ;)

And that would be amazing if Greenville won conference, good luck to you.  Although, of course they would get slaughtered in the first round, but hey, they would get a ring and a playoff berth.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 18, 2005, 02:37:54 PM
OK Gomer its Tuseday-

Here Goes,

AU over Eureka - Coach Duncan and his staff gave us a better look at what his team can do - and the fans loved it. We even got a good 4th quarter look at his  underclassmen.

LAKE over CUR - CUR does come to play but like Eureka a small roster hurts their efforts. 

CUW over GRN - I'm giving it to CUW on statistical advantage only. GRN's playing in front of the home town crowd and could pull off an upset.

BEN over MAC - This one is for you Pongo! BEN has had the toughest 1st half. Elmhurst, NCent., Carthage, LAKE, AU and yes GRN. Throw in home field advantage and Coop gets his 2nd W.

There you have sport fans.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 18, 2005, 02:55:24 PM
Aufb05:  Wednesday is my day. 
     
  Have you seen any official stats for the Greenville vs Mac game?  Anybody?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 18, 2005, 03:34:32 PM
Gomer-

Just the IBFC site through week 6
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 18, 2005, 07:11:57 PM
Gomer - they have a link for the Greenville/MacMurray box score on the Greenville page, but the link is messed up.  I am friends with the Greenville SID so will alert him and see if he can fix it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 18, 2005, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 18, 2005, 02:35:59 PM
Haha, well he didn't really have to "dig" up that info, it was pretty self explanatory that BEN and CURF are the worst teams in the conference.  But, BEN is the best 0-7 team I have ever seen.  They hung with Aurora till the 4th quarter, almost beat Greenville, beat Eureka.  They aren't as bad as most are assuming they are.

With BEN and CURF, when you have 30-40 players on the team, it's hard to find the talent that CUW or Lakeland has with 80 guys on the team.  Until BEN and CURF can get some recruits, and get up to 50 guys, then 60, then 70.  They will have 0-10, 1-9, 2-8 seasons for awhile to come.  Even Eureka could go 1-9 this year. (although I have been to Eureka, and the place is a dump.....no offense of course  :))  Once the winning starts, the recruits start coming in, or that's the way it's supposed to be. 

One problem for CURF, as well as BEN (maybe) could be the price of education.  D-III football players pretty much pay to play football, since there are no football scholarships given.  When it's almost $30,000/year to go to CURF, and possibly close to that for BEN, of course a player will want to go to a cheaper school........although CUW would be the same tuition since they are part of the Concordia system, and they are good................hmmmm, maybe guys have more telent in Wisconsin, or maybe it's just Chicago then.  yeah, no one likes Chicago, that has to be it,  ;)

And that would be amazing if Greenville won conference, good luck to you.  Although, of course they would get slaughtered in the first round, but hey, they would get a ring and a playoff berth.

I forgot to ask, what's your number on Benedictine? If not, who's your best friend who goes there?

Also....don't ever compare football talent in Wisconsin and Chicago....EVER. Its not a wise idea...because they two aren't even close.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 18, 2005, 07:23:21 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 18, 2005, 02:37:54 PM
OK Gomer its Tuseday-
BEN over MAC - This one is for you Pongo! BEN has had the toughest 1st half. Elmhurst, NCent., Carthage, LAKE, AU and yes GRN. Throw in home field advantage and Coop gets his 2nd W.

There you have sport fans.....

Hmm...if a former Aurora coach was not the current coach at Benedictine....I bet your prediction would be switched :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 18, 2005, 07:24:53 PM
Gomer - I just talked to the Greenville SID...... as of 6:23 p.m. central time on Tuesday the 18th, the Greenville/MacMurray boxscore link is now working....http://www.greenville.edu/athletics/football/results/2005/06g1015.htm
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 18, 2005, 08:56:16 PM
To anyone who can answer this-

After beating Benedictine by only one point, where did Greenville come from? I mean, SEVEN rushing yards allowed? That's downright scary, especially if you're a Concordia or Lakeland who still has to meet this team-on-the-rise.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 18, 2005, 10:45:43 PM
Big_Uns - with a new D coordinator and a new scheme (3-4) instead of 4-3 I'm sure it took some time to get adjusted, now that they have played some games together, they are starting to gel.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 19, 2005, 07:29:26 AM
Quote from: gc_fan on October 18, 2005, 07:24:53 PM
Gomer - I just talked to the Greenville SID...... as of 6:23 p.m. central time on Tuesday the 18th, the Greenville/MacMurray boxscore link is now working....http://www.greenville.edu/athletics/football/results/2005/06g1015.htm

gc_fan: Thanks for the link. looks like Greenville was way to much for Mac.  Plus they shut down the Mac running game.  Like i said," Mac has no "O" line." at least
  for run support. This is the last year for some of those "O" linemen so maybe next year the new guys will start a new era of protection. There`s always hope.
 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 19, 2005, 07:53:38 AM
Games for the week-end of Oct 22nd.
   (1)  AU vs Eureka:  AU will take this game with out a doubt. Eureka is always scrappy but that will not over come talent.
  (2) Lakeland vs Con,Ill: Another drubbing in the works. Lakeland will pad their stats but gain no respect but that`s football.
  (3) Con,W vs Greenville: CW is coming off a tough loss to LC and GC beat up on Mac.  I really don`t think Greenville can beat CW but  strange things can happen so i like Greenville for the up-set.
(4) MacMurray vs BU: What happened to Mac?
   BU started like you would expect ( losing) but it looks like the hard work is starting to pay off.
   They could be "peeking" at the right time. Don`t forget that BU beat Mac in 2003, by the score of 15-13. I think that`s correct so why not again?
   In the "SPECIAL UP_SET" of the week, BU over Mac.
    As always saturday afternoon we`ll all know for sure who did what. 
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 19, 2005, 10:07:46 AM
Pongo-

Even you have to admit that BEN has played a tough season to date. Given their other problems, small roster, new coaching staff, little fan support and you beating them up on the Boards - turning those kinds of distractions into a "W" (Eureka) shows there is a team left. MAC is going to find out that this Saturday. By the way we all know your a closet BEN fan, so why not show it. Kick ass this weekend my friend. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 19, 2005, 10:40:44 AM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 19, 2005, 10:07:46 AM
Pongo-

Even you have to admit that BEN has played a tough season to date. Given their other problems, small roster, new coaching staff, little fan support and you beating them up on the Boards - turning those kinds of distractions into a "W" (Eureka) shows there is a team left. MAC is going to find out that this Saturday. By the way we all know your a closet BEN fan, so why not show it. Kick ass this weekend my friend. 

I'm starting to think that you are a former aurora coach now on the BU staff. I like how you lay out the "excuses" (problems, roster size, new staff, fan support)...and then say that there is team left.

What do u mean by "problems?" Is there something you see on the inside that we don't?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 19, 2005, 12:23:16 PM
Gc_fan,

Greenville must blitz the linebackers a lot on a 3-4 if they contained Mac to seven total rushing yards. As Gomer pointed out, Mac doesn't have much of an o-line, however. Is that going to prove to be a problem against Concordia this week or Lakeland in three weeks when they face huge o-lines that consistently put up 100 yards rushing against whoever they play?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 19, 2005, 12:37:17 PM
D3Somebody-

I do not play for BEN, nor do I have a friend that plays for them.  I am just a D-III football fan who pays attention to the IBFC. 

And which side are you going with, Wisconsin being better for football or Chicago??  I didn't quite understand where you were going with the whole, "don't compare wisconsin to Chicago football" stuff.

Yeah, no surprises for games this week I agree.  AU will take it to Eureka, CUW will beat Greenville (but maybe not a blowout), Mac will beat BU (again maybe not a blowout), and Lakeland will absolutely hand it to CURF (this game will not be pretty, possibly 70 being put up).

everyone have a great day
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 19, 2005, 02:37:05 PM
Sooooooooo Pongo-

What exactly r u getting at? Do u support BEN or not? ??? Will they "W" Saturday or not? ??? Did they played a tough schedule so far or not? ??? Does their small roster hurt them or not? ??? (This one is multiple choice) You a. Tried out for the BEN team and didn't make it b. Tried out for a BEN student and didn't make it. c. Tried out for a BEN fan and didn't make it. d. All of the above.  :-*
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on October 19, 2005, 03:08:04 PM
or  e. I am just a BEN student who has never been talented enough to actually play sports myself so I live vicariously through the BEN football players (and when they lose it makes my sad life even sadder)  ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on October 19, 2005, 03:14:51 PM
Predictions for this week: This will be remembered as upset week

1. Eureka vs. AU--this will be closer than most think, but AU pulls it off
2. Mac vs. BU--BU surprises Mac
3. Greenville vs. CUW--upset of the week, Greenville wins
4. Lakeland vs. CURF--well, I just don't see an upset happening here, Lakeland wins
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 19, 2005, 05:24:34 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 19, 2005, 12:37:17 PM
D3Somebody-

I do not play for BEN, nor do I have a friend that plays for them.  I am just a D-III football fan who pays attention to the IBFC. 

And which side are you going with, Wisconsin being better for football or Chicago??  I didn't quite understand where you were going with the whole, "don't compare wisconsin to Chicago football" stuff.

I thought it was pretty clear that I was saying the Chicago football was better...but if it wasn't clear, that's what I am stating, as a fact. I hope I didn't misunderstand your post...and that was that you were acting as if Wisconsin football is superior to Illinois Football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 19, 2005, 05:30:20 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 19, 2005, 02:37:05 PM
Sooooooooo Pongo-

What exactly r u getting at? Do u support BEN or not? ??? Will they "W" Saturday or not? ??? Did they played a tough schedule so far or not? ??? Does their small roster hurt them or not? ??? (This one is multiple choice) You a. Tried out for the BEN team and didn't make it b. Tried out for a BEN student and didn't make it. c. Tried out for a BEN fan and didn't make it. d. All of the above.  :-*

Of course they played a tough schedule so far....and they kept the games pretty close, right? And the points they scored against these teams were against their 2nd and 3rd string defenses, right? Now that that is cleared up.

Multiple choice for you:

A) You are on the Aurora coaching staff and coached with Cooper B) You were on the AU coaching staff, and moved to Bu with Cooper C) You have a son who plays for Aurora and he is a worse athlete than you were D) You played for Aurora(well sat)....degraded and tore down Benedictine Football until your former D-Coordinator got a job at BU, and then turned into a supporter E) All of the above
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 19, 2005, 05:31:40 PM
Quote from: TBaggins on October 19, 2005, 03:08:04 PM
or  e. I am just a BEN student who has never been talented enough to actually play sports myself so I live vicariously through the BEN football players (and when they lose it makes my sad life even sadder)  ;)

So are you on Benedictine's 1-6 team or do you just go to school there?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on October 19, 2005, 08:28:41 PM
Who cares about who's winning in this conference? Nobody is ever going to win a playoff game.  Everyone should stop patting themselves or anyone else on the back.  "Good job guys you just be a team of paraplegics." How many games has this conference won in non-conference games, I would say MAYBE 5 since the conference started(and to all of you stat monkeys... go look it up I really do want to know).  This whole message board should be deleted
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 19, 2005, 10:32:42 PM
disgracetofootball just registered today at 8:08:27 I guess everyone knows who that is. Same garbage posts same person. You really do need to get a life!!!!  Actually people do care who is winning in this conference and the fact that they can say positive things about someone else's team is class....which you wouldn't understand.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 12:00:31 AM
Quote from: d3ftball1 on October 19, 2005, 10:32:42 PM
disgracetofootball just registered today at 8:08:27 I guess everyone knows who that is. Same garbage posts same person. You really do need to get a life!!!!  Actually people do care who is winning in this conference and the fact that they can say positive things about someone else's team is class....which you wouldn't understand.

Relax, I'm not him. But Yes! Let's assume because somebody registered today and tore down D3 football that it is me! I really wonder where some of you receive your education.

We know AUFB got his from Aurora....and we know the reputation of that school....such as taking NIU's dropouts, etc.

The fact that "they can say positive things about someone else's team is class" is crap...because you are directing this at what AUFB has said about Benedictine. Once again, the only reason AUFB cares about BU football is because he and Coach Cooper share some type of bond....whether that be them coaching now, before, or him being coached by Cooper.

I wish we could see the archives of aufb literally BASHING BU football....but only up until Cooper was hired....then he started to praise them. Coincidence? I think not.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: M*A*S*H* on October 20, 2005, 02:06:53 AM
This is just a reply to how Greenville held MAC to negative 7-yds rushing. Do remember that their offensive line is pretty slow and unathletic. They should probably rearrange that line and get some guys who dont look like they are 400 lbs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 20, 2005, 08:44:53 AM
Pongo-

Actually I got my education at Northeastern.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 20, 2005, 10:27:36 AM
I really never said who I was talking about so why do you assume its you d3s? And about the class issue there are more people that say positive things about other schools teams than aufb. It seems he also didn't get his degree from au so your post wasn't very accurate.  Is there a reason you have something against bu football?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 20, 2005, 08:44:53 AM
Pongo-

Actually I got my education at Northeastern.

What a great school  :-[

So what is your connection with Cooper then....that is...if you really did go to Northwestern....wait....Northeastern  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: d3ftball1 on October 20, 2005, 10:27:36 AM
I really never said who I was talking about so why do you assume its you d3s? And about the class issue there are more people that say positive things about other schools teams than aufb. It seems he also didn't get his degree from au so your post wasn't very accurate.  Is there a reason you have something against bu football?

I can make assumptions based on the way you write. There are not more people than AU tat say positive things about other schools. Most of you bash other schools....and until Cooper got the job at BU....everyone bashed BU. People have also bashed Lakeland and Mac not too long ago from their respective schools. I don't care what happened in that game, who fought with who, etc.....they are still bashing each other. So don't come on here and tell me people are saying positive things about other programs.

IF that post wasn't accurate, and he really did go to Northeastern, my other posts at his connection with Cooper are dead on....and I'm sure of that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 20, 2005, 11:19:57 AM
I stand corrected I do remember the Lackland and Mac posts now Sorry about that I guess I was the inaccurate one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 20, 2005, 01:20:49 PM
Pongo-

I knew you were a closet fan. So r they going to this week or not? Laz Predictions think so.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superstar on October 20, 2005, 02:33:38 PM
this guy is an ignorant piece of crap.  please block this bozo Pat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Cat on October 20, 2005, 03:05:01 PM
i've read alot of you guys messages over the past year and i'm definitely shocked with the kind of program bashing you guys do on hear!  First and foremost until you've walked in these kid's shoes and shared time on the field, sweat and bleed with them you have no idea of what "today's football is all about"!!!!!!!!  It's also apparent that the majority of you and I "fondly" state, spent your supposed careers at this "level". 

(re:Team Rosters, recruiting
By now, being "former" players or supporters you should have the common sense to realize that as the economy changes so does the respectful universities.    Yet, it's been found that the normal, "teenager" share the same characteristics,once they graduate they want to get out of state!!!!!!!  It's unfortunate for both "inner city"and "outskirts" programs because these kids want think about attending them but it'stoo close to home.  After a attending a school in Wisconsin or Iowa and etc  these same athletes return home.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 06:19:35 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 20, 2005, 01:20:49 PM
Pongo-

I knew you were a closet fan. So r they going to this week or not? Laz Predictions think so.

You avoided the Northeastern comment....did I upset you...I'm sowwy  :'(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 06:20:09 PM
Quote from: superstar on October 20, 2005, 02:33:38 PM
this guy is an ignorant piece of crap.  please block this bozo Pat.

Sounds good Mr. 3 posts  ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 06:20:39 PM
Quote from: Black Cat on October 20, 2005, 03:05:01 PM
i've read alot of you guys messages over the past year and i'm definitely shocked with the kind of program bashing you guys do on hear!  First and foremost until you've walked in these kid's shoes and shared time on the field, sweat and bleed with them you have no idea of what "today's football is all about"!!!!!!!!  It's also apparent that the majority of you and I "fondly" state, spent your supposed careers at this "level". 

(re:Team Rosters, recruiting
By now, being "former" players or supporters you should have the common sense to realize that as the economy changes so does the respectful universities.    Yet, it's been found that the normal, "teenager" share the same characteristics,once they graduate they want to get out of state!!!!!!!  It's unfortunate for both "inner city"and "outskirts" programs because these kids want think about attending them but it'stoo close to home.  After a attending a school in Wisconsin or Iowa and etc  these same athletes return home.

I don't think anyone understood that post. Try writing it in Chinese...maybe it will come out better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 20, 2005, 07:03:10 PM
Pongo-

Na, you don't bother me. You make an uneventful day interesting. But all good things come to an end. You F----- up this Board enough, we're here to talk about football not respond to head cases.

This is my last post to anything you have to contibute and I would recommend the same to everyone else. We don't need Pat to make this kid go away - just don't respond to him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 20, 2005, 07:03:10 PM
Pongo-

Na, you don't bother me. You make an uneventful day interesting. But all good things come to an end. You F----- up this Board enough, we're here to talk about football not respond to head cases.

This is my last post to anything you have to contibute and I would recommend the same to everyone else. We don't need Pat to make this kid go away - just don't respond to him.

I do bother you....and it bothers you. How do I know? The second someone has to revert to vulgar language...then you know. I think you have called me immature in the past...seems like you are the immature one.

It appears I hit a soft spot ripping on your "scholarly" northeastern education....don't worry...you would've learned the same if not less at Aurora (well, probably the same).

If this is goodbye....then at least tell me your connection with coach Coop...wait....forget it....I already hit the nail on the head a few posts ago.

Good luck against Macmurray/or whoever Aurora plays....Coach AUFB05
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on October 21, 2005, 01:10:01 PM
Call the Waaaambulance Superstar. Oh Pat please block him.  Did you tell on people at school too?  No wonder you have to post online about a sport you know nothing about.  I believe that a lot of high school teams can beat teams in this conference.  The intensity is weak(and starting fights like lakeland and au is not intensity its being an ahole) and  there is nothing but excuses. The conference simply CANNOT win non-conference games so how can anyone even argue about who's better? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 21, 2005, 11:30:06 PM
so anyway, back to football ... i was looking at the schedule that's left - if Concordia wins at Greenville tomorrow, and Lakeland beats Concordia, Illinois, and Aurora, they will clinch the playoff spot with one week left to play. If Aurora can win at Lakeland, and CUW wins out, we'll be looking at a 3-team tie again, just like lasst season. I don't exactly recall the tiebreaker, although i know it had something to do with the margins of victory the three teams involved in the tie had against each other. Here's hoping it doesn't come to that - somebody just win this thing and let's final get an IBC win in the playoffs!

Any thoughts on a first-round opponet for the IBC champ? Maybe Augie or North Central, or maybe Monmouth?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2005, 12:42:08 AM
Mount Union.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 22, 2005, 10:27:49 AM
Fishguy-

AU must win the rest of their games and beat LAKE by more than 11 to share C and represent. If LAKE wins the rest of their games they win or share C (depending on what CUW does) and represent. If CUW wins the rest of their games they share C with LAKE or AU.

Pat-
Mount Union for real?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 22, 2005, 11:48:08 AM
Mt. Union was actually my guess as well. Whoever gets in from this conference is going to face the top team in the region. Basically the choice of Mt. Union, St. John's, or Whitewater.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 22, 2005, 12:00:32 PM
Aufb-

I'm wondering how you got 11...if I remember correctly with this margin of victory tiebreaker like last year, Aurora would have to beat LC by 10 or more I think.

Concordia beat Aurora by 6, lost to LC by 3, so their number is +3, that won't change anymore unless they get beat by Greenville today.

LC beat Concordia by 3, so their number heading into next week is +3.

Aurora's of course would be -6 as of the loss to Concordia. If they beat Lakeland by 9 there's a tie between Concordia and Aurora at +3 (LC would be at -6.)

If Aurora beats LC by 9, they would be in another tie at +3 with Concordia, and I'm not sure what the tiebreaker is after that, but if it reverts back to head-to-head, AU would then get the nod, so AU's magic number COULD be 9. Not sure though.

But I could be and often am wrong so if anyone else wants to confirm either one.

It's only 1 or 2 points, but if I'm Aurora, I'd rather see 9/10 than 11.

(Last year's was much more different, Aurora had a +17 heading into the LC game last year, Concordia had a +1 after beating LC by 18 and losing to AU by 17, and LC had -18 heading into the Aurora game, so LC needed to beat AU by 20 points, of course only won by one, thus giving AU the nod at +16.)

Either way, that's a lot of numbers, and my head hurts now.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 22, 2005, 04:00:02 PM
Halftime of the Lakeland - CURF game ...

48-0 Lakeland

However there were 3 Lakeland turnovers in the first quarter, 2 fumbles on their first 2 drives.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 22, 2005, 05:49:59 PM
Just got back from the Greenville/ Concordia Wisconsin game, it was a hard fought, close game with Concordia winning by a score of 19 to 14. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 22, 2005, 09:13:02 PM
BU 49 MAC 22..they talked more **** than ne one while they were getting rammed without ne lube...sorry for the gross details but this team is the least classiest team in history.. i feel bad for the players on the team who are actually nice guys like 22...that is my first and last post in history of this website
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 22, 2005, 09:59:40 PM
"let's final get an IBC win in the playoffs!"

That was a quote from fishguy, Uhm, I hate to tell you but if Lakeland, or CUW plays St. Johns, Mt. Union, or Whitewater, the score could be as ugly as the Lakeland Vs. CURF score today.  I mean, the best team in our conference got beat by Whitewater 73-12 for goodness sakes. 

I don't think the IBFC will have a team win a playoff game for awhile to come, the talent just isn't there like the better D-III schools

I dont know how many times I have to repeat this, but I will again, whoever makes it to the playoffs WILL get beat by a margin of 30-40 points, that simple.

And congratulations to BU, awesome win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 22, 2005, 11:00:40 PM
baseman, i won't argue with you, all i'm saying is I would just love to see it finally happen. my guess is, there is a good chance the IBC will go winless in the playoffs, and perhaps the new league they are entering will have some success. the press release on the Lakeland website says if they beat Aurora next Saturday, they clinch the playoff berth. a Lakeland-Mt. Union matchup would be interesting because that is the Lakeland coach's alma mater - might be about the only interesting thing about that game. would we see another Lakeland-Whitewater game, or would the NCAA not do that because they already played this season?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 23, 2005, 12:05:52 AM
Big-uns-
AU's number is nine I don't know where I got 11.


Congrats to BEN for a well deserved W and to GRN for coming this far.


Baseman-
30-40 points? Not in your lifetime. The IBFC has come a long way, ask Wooster. This year will be the same. Mount Union will have to play football to win.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2005, 01:18:40 AM
Quote from: bufan on October 22, 2005, 09:13:02 PM
BU 49 MAC 22..they talked more **** than ne one while they were getting rammed without ne lube...sorry for the gross details but this team is the least classiest team in history.. i feel bad for the players on the team who are actually nice guys like 22...that is my first and last post in history of this website

Well, I hope I can trust the score report because as usual, no report on this game anywhere else. Since the poster is a player, I would hope he knew what the score was.

Fishguy, they might avoid matching them back up but they are not required to try. They are only supposed to avoid rematching teams who played a conference game against each other.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 23, 2005, 08:10:30 AM
 D3 scoreboard: BU-49         Mac-22.
   On my post of 10/19  i called for the "Up-set_Special" BU over Mac. 
  Give the coaching staff and players all the credit for this impressive win. Just goes to show what hard work will do for you.
   This is a back breaking loss for Mac. They`ve got one of the best RB`s in the conference plus a very good QB, but as i`ve said before it all starts up front.  Maybe Mac is looking ahead to playing in the SLAC where they think past "glories" will be re-lived.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 23, 2005, 12:34:22 PM
Quote"30-40 points? Not in your lifetime. The IBFC has come a long way, ask Wooster. This year will be the same. Mount Union will have to play football to win."

WHAAAAAT, you actually think Lakeland could hang with Mt. Union?????  I honestly want an answer to that.  After getting beat by 60 to a team Mt. Union could probably beat.  (Even though Mt. Union did just lose on Saturday).  Come on now, I love the IBFC and watching the teams play, but you gotta be realistic.  Sure, last year Aurora gave Wooster a great game, but Wooster was nothing compared to Mt. Union.  Last year Wooster had some blowouts, but they had alot of close games as well.  Mt. Union would just make Lakeland look silly if they played, just like Whitewater did.   But hey, I am not saying it's not possible for Lakeland to beat a Mt. Union, in fact, that would be an upset for the record books, but I just don't see it happening considering the track record of Mt. Union.....or St. John's, Whitewater, or whoever else they play.

Yeah, it's possible with the new league there would be some contenders for a playoff win, I really never thought about that, but we will have to wait and see when the league forms, and who the teams are.  Would the NCAA not matchup Lakeland and Whitewater again because it would be a blowout, or because they have already played??

Ok fine, you don't like 30-40 point spread for the playoffs, I will change it to make you happy...........they get beat by 25-35, there, that sounds good.   :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 23, 2005, 01:23:00 PM
Baseman-

I didn't say anyone would beat Mt. Union. I did say Mt. Union will have to play FB to win. If it is LAKE that will represent then consider this - any team can start flat. If LAKE beats AU by a soft margin or if AU wins but doesn't reach their number and LAKE represents, then LAKE may lose to Mt. Union but by no more than 17. If LAKE crushes AU the playoff margin decreases.

Personally, I think AU upsets LAKE. Regardless of next Saturdays outcome either team will make a statement for the IBFC, just like AU did last year - no blowouts regardless who plays. 

Gomer -
You called for BU to upset, I called for them to win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 23, 2005, 01:25:30 PM
If Lakeland and Whitewater were to play in the playoffs, I think it's safe to say we won't see another 73-12 game. Lakeland's playing some of the best football they can play. With such a young defense, a lot of those guys were only playing in their third game as collegians when Whitewater came to town. Can you believe that with a defense made up mostly of underclassmen they're still holding teams like Concordia to 200 yards? The offense is coming together too, using their third and fourth string running backs!

If you think this is the same Lakeland team that played Whitewater in Week 3, you haven't been paying attention. This team is back to what we saw last year when they hung with Whitewater for 3 quarters.

Not to take anything away from UWW, I strongly believe they are national title contenders this year. It takes a VERY good team to go through the WIAC unbeaten, and although the season isn't over, they've got a pretty damn good shot of remaining undefeated.

All I'm saying is that a playoff game between these two teams would be closer than expected. Maybe not 10 or less points, but certainly not 30 plus.


Aufb05-
7-7 at half to EUREKA?! What gives?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 24, 2005, 09:39:19 AM
Big_Uns-

AU's playing a tough team next week. Sometimes you got to dig deep into your bag to see what works or what doesn't. The end was never in doubt. It was a good opportunity to try some different Os (1st half anyway). AU isn't taking LAKE lightly. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on October 24, 2005, 04:08:59 PM
Ok now you people are talking about the same stuff I was but I made my point more blunt.  This conference is not going to win a playoff game, ever.  The fact they beat up on each other is ridiculous.  You can look at the running up of the scores and look at it two ways.  The first is why would they run up the score? there is no margin of victory factor in the D3 BCS(oh wait all you have to do is win the conference championship). Second, the teams aren't really running up any scores, when you can rush the ball 50+ times and gain 400-600 yards you are just playing a really bad team, should these teams just not even put a team on the field.  So until there are ANY non-conference wins (regular season or playoffs) who cares?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 24, 2005, 05:59:07 PM
I realize this conferences post season record has been pretty bad but I d not hink it is fair t keep bashing it like you have.  The teames from this conference usually get matched up against some of the best teams in DIII. 

I played for CUW when we played UW La Crosse That game was 21-7 at half time. That was only because of a miscommunication in coverage otherwise it would have been 14-7 The only reason the game ended up lopsided was because our punter could not get the D out of horrible field position.  La Crosse's average starting field position for the 2nd half was CUW's 33!!!! yard line.  Every drive that started on the other side of the field CUW's defense held La Crosse.  La Crosse wound up losing to Mount Union by two or three touchdowns.  All I know is everyone on CUW's defense that year (probably the best the IBFC will ever see) knows they can play with the top teams in this D III. 

Last Year the only reason AU lost was becuase of Woosters RB.  Anything can happen on a given day.

At CUW we scrimmage Carthage every year before the season begins and we handle them every year. They are a respected team who is no better than the top teams in the IBFC.  The problem is there is little to no compairison between the top and bottom of the IBFC.  There are some pretty bad teams, but there are also some pretty good teams. 

Saying that some highschool teams could beat u is a f-ing joke.  I played H.S. ball in Florida (some of, if not the, best football in the country) and I played with and against some amaizing players and making that compairison is a joke.  I know the limitations of this conference as do many of us so there is no need for you to come on here and continually bash it.  There are some stupid conversations and arguements that go on along with program bashing.  HOWEVER, we are all playing cause we love the game and we put just as much into it as anyone else, if not more, because we don't get endorsments or scholarships or breaks in school because of our thletic status. so take it somewhere else.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 24, 2005, 06:51:40 PM
Maddog-

Missed you buddy. I'll hook up with you next week. I'm sure your fans will point me out to you. As I said at the beginning of the season it all comes down to this game.  Looking forward to meeting you and your son.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 24, 2005, 08:00:04 PM
Likewise my friend look forward to meeting you.  I will be standing in the end zone.  See you there, will be a great game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: admin on October 24, 2005, 09:33:16 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on October 24, 2005, 06:02:35 PM
Disgracetofball, your name suits you well, you are pathetic and a disgracetofball. At least these kids are playing the game instead of bashing it like you. [remainder deleted]

Hey, uhm, maddog, that isn't even close to appropriate. You know what I'm referring to. Don't go there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: markdamaker40 on October 24, 2005, 09:49:06 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on October 24, 2005, 05:59:07 PM
At CUW we scrimmage Carthage every year before the season begins and we handle them every year. They are a respected team who is no better than the top teams in the IBFC.  The problem is there is little to no compairison between the top and bottom of the IBFC.  There are some pretty bad teams, but there are also some pretty good teams. 

OH MY GOD, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING SO HARD AT THIS. YOU ARE BASING YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT ON A SCRIMAGE. A SCRIMAGE DOES NOT MEASURE HOW A TEAM IS GOING TO DO IN THE REGULAR SEASON.  I BET ITS THE KIND OF SCRIMAGE WHERE EACH OFFENSE GETS LIKE 20 PLAYS IN A ROW AND IF THEY DON'T AND IF THEY DON'T GET A FIRST DOWN THEY MOVE BACK TO THEIR OWN 40 YARD LINE. YOU CAN NOT TELL ME THAT YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT CONCORDIA'S OFFENSE WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THE BALL ON A STINGY CARTHAGE DEFENSE.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on October 25, 2005, 06:39:03 AM
I'm not doubting the weakness of this conference overall this year.  But past winners have been competitive outside of conference.  It doesn't matter mcuh anymore thought b/c the conference will be dissolved after this year. 

What ever happened to Thunder Dave Sunseri, last I heard was he was making brooms somewhere in Georgia.  Anyone heard any truth to that rumor.

Pongo or whatever your name is now, u suck.  Superstar would run, and throw circles around your ass.  How's Luther treatin ya' Ice Water?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 25, 2005, 09:15:47 AM
AUF05:  Up-Set: to defeat or overthrow an opponent that is considered more formidable, as in sports.  As Mac had a better record at the time plus a good QB and an excellent RB it, the "up-set", was the proper call. IMO.
  Win: To finish first in a contest. Bu did just that.
  We both got BU as the winner but just went in 2 different directions. 
  Wednesday(tomorrow) i`ll post my picks for this saturday`s games.
   Maddog8: what happened? Your commentary is missed.  Don`t clam up, that`s not your style.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 25, 2005, 10:27:52 AM
Gomer-

Its Tuesday, so here goes.

Upset is what I expect AU to do at LAKE on Saturday. Three reasons 1. AU has the lowest opponents points  2. Horung is consistent with his passing game 3. AU has found their running game (that wasn't the case at CUW). I don't know if AU can win by the number they need to represent. That said, either team will make a good IBFC representative.

CUW over BEN, BEN has been playing well but it would take a miracle to outplay CUW's D and running game.

GRN over CUR, GRN's D will stop whatever CUR's O can put together. 

MAC over EUR, I'm not sure why MAC has had a tough year. It almost seems internal - the talent is there. I like EUR's QB but the rest of the team performs in spurts and not always at the same time. 

That's it sports fans.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 25, 2005, 01:10:49 PM
Carthage does have a good defense and they did a good job. Especially becuase CUW O coordinator has known Carthages D coordinator for a long time.  Also Carthage prepares for CUW during camp.  We don't even know what kind of offense Carthage runs untill we get to the game.  CUW was also missing their starting D-Tackle, middle linebacker, and free safety, all three are all-conference players.  Carthage is a good team I am not taking anything away from them, its just that they get respect and we don't. I believe the teams that represent this conference in the playoffs do not win becuase we are constantly matched up against the best DIII has to offer. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 25, 2005, 01:19:02 PM
The only pick I'm concerned with at this stage of the game is LAKELAND will not go down in DEFEAT they have to much determination for that to happen. Trust me when I say this AUFB05 THERE DEFENSE IS READY FOR HORNUNG AND COMPANY.  Not to mention that their OFFENSE is finally clicking.  Good luck to both team in this battle. LAKELAND over AU. Besides this DEFENSE in not even close to last years THEY are better. Hard to believe but it is true. Tere goal is to punish you, yes you. I want to see after a couple of blows, if Hornung can stay in there I know Schmidke from Mac couldn't!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 25, 2005, 01:27:59 PM
Horung if your listening, MADDOG is telling you son be ready this is not a joke or game here, be ready because you will be smacked Hard very Hard. Bank on this one!! I do agree any one of these teams will be a good representative for the conference,  but honestly Horung please be ready they will be hunting you down like a DEER. Oh that is right DEER season is OPEN. AUFB05 look forward to seeing you, and best of luck to all IBFC teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 25, 2005, 02:14:16 PM
 Maddog8: I`m sure your correct about the QB from Mac getting beat up by the lakeland "D" but
  you and i both know Mac Has...... NO OFFENSIVE LINE!!!  In fact they haven`t had one since the
  2000-01 seasons.  Just wanted to point that out.
  If Lakeland gets by Aurora then you have every right to pump your fist.  Saturday should be the defining game for LC as far as this conference season goes. Then the play-offs. Whole new ball game.
  Guess i`ll have to keep checking the D3 scoreboard for up dates. 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 25, 2005, 03:45:47 PM
Maddog-

Bring on those 15 yd. penalites. It ain't deer meat when you get your a-- chewed.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 25, 2005, 03:59:40 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 25, 2005, 02:14:16 PM
   If Lakeland gets by Aurora then you have every right to pump your fist.  Saturday should be the defining game for LC as far as this conference season goes. Then the play-offs. Whole new ball game.
  Guess i`ll have to keep checking the D3 scoreboard for up dates. 
   

I agree, this IS the game of the year for the conference. I'm not trying to take away from the Lakeland - CUW, or any other games this year, but for both teams, this is the only game that matters. For both Lakeland and AU this is it.

Ok, now on to tie breaker stuff... let me see if I get this right.

Provided CUW wins this week and next week and both LAKE and AU win their last conference games against Greenville and MAC respectively...

If AU beats LAKE by More than 3 but less than 9, CUW would represent in the playoffs.

If LAKE beats AU this week, LAKE automatically wins conference

If AU beats LAKE by more than 8, they win the first tiebreaker and therefore represent in the playoffs.

Thats why I'm calling this the game of the year, everything rests upon this game for 3 teams...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 25, 2005, 04:39:38 PM
Aurora needs to win by 9 or more to represent.

Lakeland loses by any number, they have to hope CUW loses again.

It's win and in for Lakeland. Lose and they're SOL pretty much.

CUW is cheering for a close Aurora win, Aurora's hoping for a blowout win.

I think I'm starting to like the coin flip scenario a la Friday Night Lights over this math s---.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 25, 2005, 05:53:53 PM
AUFB05, I have to believe that Lakeland will play mistake free football, In the last 2 games against the Concordia's they had very limited penalties. This team is really focused. In fact they were hoping for Whitewater again in the playoffs should they win Sat. Not looking ahead though this will be a good game, in fact so good that I'm calling it a blow out for the MUSKIES. I also think it would be suprising if they don't have at least 3 "D" line and 2 Linebackers on the first team all conference this year. You will see this is not the team that play Whitewater the third week of the season, This team is hungry for anyone who want's too play. My hat will be off to Horung if he makes it thru the game. No doubt on a cold day, for some reason the hit becomes more painful. And AUFB05 I am not talking cheap shot here. I personally would be disappointed in this team if that were the case. They like knocking the snot out of people, ask anyone who has played them since Whitewater. Out til Sat Oh and HOG's take care of business, you no what I mean a Steak is riding on it!!!!!!! See you in the endzone my buddy look forward to meeting you I meet Da One at a Luther game this year great people from AU
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 25, 2005, 06:33:29 PM
Maddog-

I've look for the guy biting his nails in the end zone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 25, 2005, 06:44:22 PM
Then it will be my toe nails, hell I lost my finger nails in the Concordia game. Hey see you then
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CUWFB on October 25, 2005, 07:55:27 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on October 25, 2005, 04:39:38 PM
Aurora needs to win by 9 or more to represent.

Lakeland loses by any number, they have to hope CUW loses again.

It's win and in for Lakeland. Lose and they're SOL pretty much.

CUW is cheering for a close Aurora win, Aurora's hoping for a blowout win.

I think I'm starting to like the coin flip scenario a la Friday Night Lights over this math s---.

OK, I've seen a million different numbers and its annoying the hell out of me.  I don't know how you guys ever made it through school, but it doesn't seem that tough!!

CUW beat Aurora 26-21.  Thats +5... Lakeland beat CUW 17-14 that makes CUW +2...  (5-3=2)  Not very difficult right?

Lakeland would be +3... yes 17-14 = 3.  And Aurora would be -5 (26-21).

So if Lakeland loses by TWO that would make them +1 and CUW would go to the playoffs at +2.  Lakeland CAN afford to lose by ONE point, which would then tie CUW and Lakeland at +2, with Lakeland taking the tiebreaker with the win over CUW.

If Aurora wins by 7 that would put them at +2, a tie with CUW, but since CUW beat Aurora; CUW would go to the playoffs.  Therefore, Aurora needs to win by 8 or more.

Recap:

Aurora wins by 8 or more, Auora goes to playoffs.
Aurora wins by 1 point, Lakeland goes to playoffs.
Aurora wins by 2-7 points, CUW goes to playoffs.
Lakeland wins, Lakeland goes to playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 25, 2005, 08:13:32 PM
CUWFB-

You da man!! Couldn't of said it better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 25, 2005, 09:15:43 PM
CUWFB-

I haven't made it through school yet, haha. My bad. I thought the score of the Aurora-CUW game was 26-20.

You're right it's not that hard, and technically I did MY math right, I just gave myself the wrong numbers.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 25, 2005, 10:39:36 PM
CUWFB-

All I have to say is "Doh!"

Yeah I forgot to factor in the -3+5=2 part...

I was close
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 08:04:30 AM
 Picks for this saturday,10/29.
   (1) Greenville over Concordia,Ill. GC is riding high after taking it to Mac. No way they lose to Con,Ill.
   As for Con,Ill, they don`t have enough fire-power to play with anybody but to their credit they show up every game day and play.
  (2) Con,W  vs  BU: CW has won their games but most have been close. I think the loss to LC last week took the wind out of their sails. While BU on the other hand has got something going. Could it be Coach Cooper has got those boys believing?
  BU in an up-set.
   (3) Eureka vs Mac: For some reason or another Mac has tanked. They have some real talent in the backfield( QB and RB Ereg) but with out an "O" line
   it`s hard to get the plays started.
   Eureka in reality should not be a threat but who knows?   
     Mac should get the "W".
    (4) LC vs Aurora: What can you say? LC has beat up on the "no-bodies" of the conference, CW excluded.
    Out side of it they got thumped. Good experience though.
    Aurora has not blown the better teams out but played steady in getting their wins.
     LC needs to win if they don`t all that huffing and puffing will have have gone for naught.
    These teams match up in a lot of stats but imo
     They(LC) have the horses to win ( penalties aside)
   so i`d say LC gets the "W".
    Course D3 score-board will keep us posted along with guys from the various schools that are playing saturday.  Always nice to see the early scores posted on this site.
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 26, 2005, 08:27:36 AM
Gomer - Thanks for your picks, just a small correction, Greenville hosted CUW last week, they played, Mac 2 weeks ago, but as you said, CUW plays close games as they won by a score of 19 to 14 over G.C.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 08:42:07 AM
Maddog8: You said in part,".... In fact they were hoping for Whitewater again........."
  UW-whitewater is ranked #2 in the nation in D3.
  They could well be playing for the D-3 National Championship with a little help along the way.
  Lakeland is ranked where please?  No where.
I understand your bravado and your belief in the team plus this is your last "go-round" but to suggest  LC would strike fear into UW-WW is a stretch. I`m of the opinion that they would give
LC a lickin and keep on tickin, again.
  UW_WW is a far superior team plus their conference is must stronger top to bottom IMO.
  I`m not here to slam LC or you for that matter but to offer a different "thought" on your comment.
 Remember i`m neutral, no family....no nothing.
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 08:58:14 AM
Quote from: gc_fan on October 26, 2005, 08:27:36 AM
Gomer - Thanks for your picks, just a small correction, Greenville hosted CUW last week, they played, Mac 2 weeks ago, but as you said, CUW plays close games as they won by a score of 19 to 14 over G.C.
 
  Good eye, but that was just a reference. It was ment to indicate GC got a good win over a team they should not have beaten, although i called it.
    My bad! Should have been "more" clear on my intent.  This is one of those times i know what i ment but as you indicated left some doubt.
   If you get any early scores this saturday.....postum.
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 26, 2005, 09:05:29 AM
I plan to listen on the radio http://www.wgrn.net/ so will keep the score from the Greenville/CURF game updated
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 26, 2005, 10:08:25 AM
LC is not as physically dominating as they would like to think they are.  I don't think Hornung really needs to worry that much. He held tough through CUW's defense and will do the same this week. He'll keep representing Fla well.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 26, 2005, 10:19:47 AM
"Hornung held tough through CUW's defense"...but Lakeland beat CUW didn't they...because of their defense if I remember correctly.

Of course, I was not there to witness it, but CUW's offense wasn't that bad going into that game, and how many yards did they manage in the second half? 40? And a CUW person is saying that Lakeland is not as physically dominating as they think they are? So they THINK they should've held you to 20 second half yards but only managed 40?

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 26, 2005, 10:55:00 AM
I was speaking more from the defensive side of the ball as LC's offense scored only 10 points, 3 of which came on a blocked punt that LC recovered on CUW 15 and CUW's defense held them to a field goal. The other touchdown came off of an option pitch into a defender who scooped and scored.  Good play by him, not so good by the QB.  LC's only offensive touchdown came when a freshman linebacker forgot he was in man coverage and let a reciever run free.

They did hold the offense to to 41 yds in the second half and it was a job well done.  They should also thank the predictability of the offense for that one.  Everyone knows what plays are going to be run and LC did a good job of stopping them.

I'm just saying that CUW's D is pretty physical as well.

   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on October 26, 2005, 12:37:05 PM
• Everyone vote Brett Elliott for Heisman

Did everybody see this on the front page?  If not check it out and vote!  It could do nothing but help DIII football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 26, 2005, 12:50:23 PM
Gomer -

I am glad someone finally realized that Whitewater would hand it to Lakeland if they played again.  Somewhere before someone said that Lakeland would give Whitewater a better game, and that it would be close.  Though it might be a better game, it wouldn't be a close one.  With Whitewater 7-0 in one of the best(if not the best) conference in all of D-III, I would say that is unlikely.

And I never knew Maddog said that they were hoping to play Whitewater again, what, to get spanked for the second time in one season by the same team?  I would be praying NOT to play Whitewater in the first round, because that is an automatic exit from the playoffs.  

I mean, the team in last place (UW-Platteville) in that league could probably give Lakeland a good game, and probably win to go along with it.

But, we will see how things shape out this weekend for the conference.  And I can't wait to see the team the IBFC representative has to play, exciting stuff.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 26, 2005, 12:52:55 PM
falcsfb, forgive me but the last time I play the game the offense usually went against the defense, CUW's defense was fortunate to have two TD passes negated because the officals made mis calls, The pass to McArthur White was a TD. Catching the ball in the endzone and then having it stripped is NOT an incomplete pass. So CUW was fortunate for that happening. Also, Bobby Langston was the only Dominate player that day from my view point, Defenately first team all conference. YET, the LEADING RUSHER in the IBFC is MILLS and THEY SHUT HIM DOWN litterally. EDGER the SECOND LEADING RUSHER IN THE CONFERENCE WAS SHUT DOWN. PLEASE, who is AU's leading rusher, Therfore unless Hornung has a superb day passing look out. He is a pocket passer, and last year was hurt most of the game from the second quarter on. AGAIN, I said this years DEFENSE is much more physical and faster than last years. I'm sure it is wishful thinking on the Falcon's part but these's guys are coming to PLAY. I kid you not. At 47 I have been around the game along time, they are not the same team as the third week. And Gomer, we really had an off day against Whitewater, YES they are #2, and YES they did smack us around but we were missing some key players on our defense, WE are healty now. Besides it was only 14-12 at halftime against Whitewater #2 in the country. Our offense did manage over 300+ yrds against the #2 team in the country. Unlike last year this team has come from behind at least 4 games this year, so make no mistake THEY do NOT get startled by being behind. They have the BEST COACH in the conference and he will have them ready be asured of that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 26, 2005, 03:00:14 PM
Maddog-

Hope LAKE plays as good as you post. LAKE's win against CUW was a gift. As for WW, they didn't have a good day and LAKE didn't have a bad day. LAKE (or any team in the IBFC) doesn't play at their level. That isn't to say that LAKE could not have made it more interesting. By the way none of the teams are the same as they were in week three. Your a great dad and a better fan, so is Mr. Hornung. The difference is he doesn't post on how AU's D will test the skills of LAKE's QB. Might want to think about that. No sense in making this game personal.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 04:02:28 PM
maddog8: You know, maybe Aufbo5 has a point.
  I know for sure your talking from a clean, hard fought game stand point but maybe singling out a certain player from the opposing team  might led people to think other wise.
  LC is the most penalized ( or close to it)  team in the conference
  ( if i`m  wrong my apologise) that alone calls into question their discipline. Can`t blame it all on the refs. 
   Remember last year when LC had those NFL linemen types? No point. just was thinking about it.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 26, 2005, 05:16:08 PM
Guys, first the Hornung name is a legand and Andrew is a super QB from what I have seen, you guys seem to say he is the differance maker of this game, I'm saying that the D will be ready. Frankly I would be shockewd if Coach Duncan didn't have his troops ready. Besides I thought this was suppose to be fun for US, I would be disappointed if the players were writing this stuff, but us this is all fun for me no harm intended. Just my thoughts of the game to be played. In addition if this is what it takes to get any team fired up then they really don't know how to play the true game. This is for us old timers not them. I hardly doubt if Hornung read this stuff. Again take nothing away from him HE IS AUs TEAM on offense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I personnally know that one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 26, 2005, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 04:02:28 PM
   Remember last year when LC had those NFL linemen types? No point. just was thinking about it.
   

Are you referring to size? Because they returned 3 out of 4 starting d-linemen if i remember right, only one end not returning and being replaced by a medical redshirt.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 26, 2005, 05:41:59 PM
Hey guys a few things before I stop posting 1). Gomer you asked me to post because, I haven't all year and THAT WAS NOT MY STYLE. so I have since posted. 2) I would never condon, support or be PROUD of ANYONE taking a CHEAP SHOT on any player, that's not what I was refering to if you guys thought that. NOT MY STYLE. 3). Andrew is a super player and on the "ALL MADDOG TEAM". sO PLEASE DON'T  EVEN THINK THAT I WAS HOPING THAT. I never want any player to get hurt regardless of who it is, NOT MY STYLE. and lastly AU will be ready for this game I was just having some fun, so I thought. Never again will I post other than the "ALL MADDOG TEAM".  sorry but you call me out then want to critise me. I look forward to a great game and will support who EVER represents the IBFC OUT FOR GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!Oh and as for a proud parent well who wouldn't be if there child was playing college sports, weather they start or NOT!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 26, 2005, 07:41:26 PM
Maddog-

Just didn't want anyone reading you the wrong way. This Board has 416 post and 12,036 views. You can bet the players read what we say. Your "may-a-cupa" was well meant and well taken - no need to leave the Board.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 26, 2005, 10:49:13 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 26, 2005, 03:00:14 PM
LAKE's win against CUW was a gift.

No it wasn't - Lakeland rallied from a 14-0 deficit by completely shutting down CUW's offense, especially in the second half, and had it not been for a dropped TD pass, it would have been a 10-point win. It was a great game between the two best teams in the league this season, and on that day the better team - and likely IBC playoff rep - won a hard-fought victory.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on October 27, 2005, 05:15:23 AM
Is Nick Buffano still the starting tailback for Aurora or will he be out this week.  I thought I heard he messed up his wrist.  Any truth to this rumor?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 27, 2005, 08:03:47 AM
Quote from: uamusme on October 26, 2005, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 04:02:28 PM
   Remember last year when LC had those NFL linemen types? No point. just was thinking about it.
   

Are you referring to size? Because they returned 3 out of 4 starting d-linemen if i remember right, only one end not returning and being replaced by a medical redshirt.

More of a joke on my part as it was Maddog8 who
  kind of coined that phrase. He was alluding to their size. All the banter was good natured. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 27, 2005, 08:48:19 AM
Maddog8: My comment about ," not your style"
   refers to your lack of postings, nothing else !
   Last year you were very vocal in that your postings had some good stuff (information, commentary, thoughts) Your ALL Maddog Team was well thought out and gave the guys(players)
  and viewers of this forum good fodder to discuss.
You know that because everybody thought you left somebody off or atleast they thought you did.
  Your comments were not combative,IMO plus they help "fuel" other comments.
  This season you had some postings but it seems after the UW-WW game you kind of pulled back.
   Now, as the game with AU is just around the corner your postings have come back to life, enough so that some of them have raised some questions. People just respond to what they see.
  What you are thinking and how is comes out on this forum is the problem. I`ve been caught up in that myself......bound to happen.
  Your last post  makes it sound like you were bush-wacked or as you said," calling me out".
  Well maddog8, i`m here to tell you i was calling you out! I wanted your  thoughtful comments.
   Nothing more nothing less. I hope i have cleared
  the air of any misunderstanding.
   Good friendly banter works all the time ...........
     
 
   
 
   
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 27, 2005, 09:12:43 AM
Fluff-

No Buffano on the AU Roster.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 27, 2005, 01:29:13 PM
Gomer your right on that point, but for those who don't know me from last years posting should know that I love this game and would NEVER condon ANY cheap shot. AUFB05 to single out Hornung is because he is there team on offense, Stoping Hornung stops AU. Defensively, I don't think from what I have seen that AU's can compare to Lakelands, size and speed. A passing game will not win this one. Honestly, on any given day anyone can win, my feeling is this team is so united and hungry that they will not let their gaurd down.  I drive 1,250 miles round trip from Detroit to see the Muskies every weekend, and look forward to an exciting game, this week is no different. No doubt this game decides the conference winner, and playing Whitewater and Carthage has prepared this team for this weekend. Actually if more teams play out of conference teams like Lakeland they would probably be better prepared for the conference play. I think AU playing Alma (an hour drive in Michigan from me) is a plus for them, they are not an easy foe. One last comment please to all readers I believe and want fare play from all players and expect NOTHING LESS.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 27, 2005, 03:34:56 PM
Maddog-

Every think about "Lake Express", auto & boat ferry - Muskegon to Milwaukee in 2 1/2 hours (3 1/2 for time zone difference).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 27, 2005, 05:51:17 PM
Tried the one in Ludington to Montaowac How ever it is spelled, took 4 hours and cost 90 dollars. Personally I really don't mind the 7 hour drive there I just hate the drive home. Problem is I get of work Friday nights at 1 a.m. and then drive all night for the game. Stay up all day to watch the game.  I do spend the night in Sheboygan. The drive home in the morning and it is anoying because of traffic in Chicago. Thanks for the advice.  Still look forward to seeing you Sat in the zone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 28, 2005, 02:02:13 PM
gvfan
Will you be listening tomorrow? I lost your email add so I couldn't email you. I think I saw you at the game but you were always with a group of people so I didn't bother you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 28, 2005, 03:34:34 PM
yes - check your e-mail for more
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 28, 2005, 09:04:55 PM
I keep reading about this "dropped" touchdown pass but the receiver never had control of the ball  and there was no second TD pass that was a missed call.  The on the missed call you actually refered to the safetey made a great play after he got beat he was disciplined enough to catch up and knock the ball out of the receivers hands.  The point was CUW's D gave up 7 points LC's gave up 14.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 29, 2005, 01:11:53 AM
And Lakeland's defense scored 6, how many points did CUW's D score? In my opinion, your point is irrelevant.

Besides, it's been how two weeks now since you lost to Lakeland. How long are you going to continue to bitch about it? What would've happened if you lost to Greenville last week? Would you still be trying to prove that you're better than Lakeland?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on October 29, 2005, 01:43:46 AM
I think Buffano played a yr ago or something, I guess he's no longer on the squad, I have'nt really paid attention this year.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 29, 2005, 02:38:31 PM
At the end of the 1st Quarter - Greenville 13, CURF 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 29, 2005, 03:20:32 PM
At the half - Greenville 36 - CURF 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 29, 2005, 04:09:03 PM
At the end of 3 - Greenville 36 - CURF 6
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 29, 2005, 04:45:52 PM
Final Score Greenville 42 - CURF 20
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 29, 2005, 05:04:58 PM
Final score

Lakeland 58 - Aurora 0

so much for a tiebreaker...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 29, 2005, 05:22:58 PM
late in the third quarter Lakeland had nearly 400 yards of total offense, and Aurora had 30 and only one first down. it could not have been more dominating. the Aurora kids seemed scared of Lakeland's defense today. it was pretty amazing to see. clearly the IBC is sending its best team to the playoffs this season - good luck Muskies!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 29, 2005, 07:00:01 PM
That game was downright scary. Lakeland held Aurora under 100 yards of offense until the last drive of the game. Does this answer any questions about whose defense is the best in the league?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superstar on October 29, 2005, 08:52:09 PM
i just have to hand it to lakeland although its very hard.  its an embarrassing day to be a spartan.  i think its time to get some players that want to play real au football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on October 30, 2005, 03:37:13 AM
I agree, players like Nick "Thunderpants" Buffano
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 30, 2005, 08:57:13 AM
Maddog-

Nice meeting you, your son is one hell of a player. Congrats to LAKE. I stopped at the casino in Milaukee on the the way back - it had the same outcome as the game. Casino 250 - me 0.

So what do you do after College FB?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2005, 11:12:00 AM
Come join us on D3hoops.com? :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 30, 2005, 12:32:59 PM
 Congradulations to Lakeland.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 31, 2005, 04:48:07 AM
AUFB05, likewise it was a preasure meeting you also. Thanks for the compliment , my son will appreciate hearing that, let me also say that without the rest of his teamates/family he would not be standing out like that. He know's it takes a brotherhood of players to be that successful. I would like to say that althought the game was one sided, the AU players never gave up. my hat is off to them. As for the MUSKIES DON'T look past Greenville, which I am sure you won't, they would love nothing more than to have you SHARE that title you fought so hard for. They can make a spolier of this game. We need that 7 game win streek going into the playoffs. Maddog doesn't really know what he will do next year after football, probably spend more time with my daughters. I do know that Greenville is my MOST IMPROVED TEAM of the YEAR, without a doubt. MacMurry the bigest DISAPPOINTMENT of the YEAR. I will say with the addition of the (2) Saginaw coaches Mac will be much better next year. The reason I know this is because (hear you go baseman101) my son redshirted there his freshman year. Saginaw is ranked 4th nationally in DII. You had asked me in the beging that is your son was so good why didn't he play DII, Well he did. He left for Lakeland to play rather than sit til his time came up. Besides since going to Lakeland he has met a GREAT bunch of guys that are like real BROTHERS to him. If you asked him I bet he would tell you that he would not have changed a thing knowing he would have probably been the starter there. I prsonally am glad he went to Lakeland because of these kids. You can saee that all of them were raised very well by their parents. A GREAT bunch that are WELL coach by a TRUE LEADER of the GAME. Coach "Z" and company. This guy is DEFINATELY a D-I coach.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on October 31, 2005, 10:21:49 AM
maddog:
Good comments.  I just wanted to commend you and your son for the sentiments and commeraderie you expressed among the players and parents.  Unfortunately, not every college team has such support among the players, parents, and fans, including those who are reserves.  It is a great situation to experience and/or see when it does occur.

As for Saginaw, it is interesting to see that they were still ranked in the Top 20 despite being demolished by Grand Valley State a few weeks ago.  While I admit that I haven't followed DII as closely this year, from a superficial observation, I am not sure that there are as many powerful teams in DII this year as compared to recent years.  It will be interesting to see what happens in their playoffs this season.  I was slightly surprised to see that Michigan Tech has taken a dip this year, although Wayne State appears much improved (still a long way for them to go as yet, but not impossible as Mich Tech has shown).  Back to Saginaw:  it is good to hear that there are a couple of good coaches from there.  My college roommate's son went there for a year, but was not impressed (and it is my understanding he was not treated very well; he plays two sports).  Like your son, he transferred to a DIII school (although for slightly different reasons obviously) and is enjoying it very much and while not yet a starter in football, he is getting decent playing time.

Anyway, just thought I would add a few comments to your discussion.  Good luck to your son and team the rest of the way.

BTW, I'm sure you'll find something to do next season regarding football after your son's career is completed.  I would venture a guess to say that you'll probably still follow DIII fb in some capacity or another, just like the rest of us DIII "has beens". ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 31, 2005, 11:15:31 AM
Formerd3db, thanks a million for your thoughts, I will tell you this if FORD (where I work) does not pick up in sales I may be looking for a new job, possibly coaching football, ya right. Luckly Randy Awery was Lakelands former coach and enjoyed Ryan to help him come to Lakeland without penalizing him one year due to transfering. He is really a good coach from our experience. I just enjoy the game so much that you can bank on me watching all the IBFC teams next year even though the conference will be broken up. As for DII, Grand Valley is always up there so is Saginaw problem is they are both in the same conference and unfortunately they have to play 2 times a year. If seperated I think they would meet in the finals very often. Both have great programs. which is why I think Mac will be BACK. As for Tech, my partner here at FORD said it was just a fluk last year. He is probably right, he played on 2 of Grand Valleys Championship teams. Look for Grand Valley to win it all in DII, my heart is with the SVSU cardinals though. Winner of that game will win it all. I will say that DIII football has improve greatly over the years. Again thanks for your thoughts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on October 31, 2005, 11:39:13 AM
maddog:
You're welcome and I appreciate the follow-up info.  Best of luck regarding the job situation.  Keep the Faith!  See you around the board(s).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 31, 2005, 02:50:15 PM
Maddog

I have seen posted that the ibc is breaking up. I know your son is at Lakeland but do you know where the other schools will be playing? In our media guide for 2006 it shows we will be playing the same teams next year. Do you know when the breakup is suppose to happen? Maybe our schedule for next year is incorrect.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 31, 2005, 05:16:26 PM
I'm pretty sure the IBFC will be around one more year but the NIIC conference and the conference that is combining with it will combine next year in all other sports and football will follow in the 07' season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 31, 2005, 06:13:25 PM
footballfan05
Thanks for the response. Will all the ibc teams be in the same conference or will they be split up?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 31, 2005, 06:34:04 PM
Aurora, Benedictine, Concordia-Ill., Concordia-Wis., Lakeland are remaining

I'm not sure about any of the other schools

Joining the new conference are Maranatha Baptist, Rockport, and Wisconsin Lutheran.

Play begins tenatively in '07
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 31, 2005, 11:34:54 PM
That's Rockford, not Rockport - as in Rockford College, currently of the NIIC. Play for football begins in 2008 because Wis Lutheran is under contract with their league through 2007. Play in all other sports begins next school year, 2006-07.

The complete lineup for this new conference is: Alverno College, Aurora College, Benedictine University, Concordia-River Forest, Concordia University-Mequon, Dominican University, Edgewood College, Lakeland, Maranatha Baptist Bible College, Marian College, Rockford College and Wisconsin Lutheran.

I have heard talk that Marian has discussed trying to add football in the future.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on November 01, 2005, 01:57:47 AM
They can change the league, change the teams, change the uniforms, change anything, but at CURF if they don't change admin support (and maybe coaching) we are going to keep getting killed. Roster size is decreasing, players are not staying in the program ( many leave the campus), and recruiting is really tough.  The kids that sign up to play need some support (besides fans).  Other schools have fought through tough times and so can CURF. GO COUGS! :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 01, 2005, 11:47:31 AM
I CANNOT beleive that the residents living near CURF will not let the Football team play music on gamedays.  That is the most rediculous thing I have heard in a while.  Honestly, it is only 5 days out of the year what is the big deal.  If I were the administration, or anyone with authority at the school, I would not let the people living in the area use the facilities.  Im sure the same people bitching about the noise on saturdays are out running on the track or playing on the field with their kids when no one is using it.  I feel bad for CURF there has got to be something they can do. They have beautiful facilities hopefully that can bring in some people.  I have heard before they have trouble keeping kids there.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 01, 2005, 11:51:55 AM
As a fan I can't wait to see how the new conference works out.  I think it is an awesome thing they are doing and hopefully this new conference will start out great and gain the respect many of these teams deserve.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 01, 2005, 11:55:09 AM
fsufan

To be honest. I think your weakness is our strength, but not in the way you think.

I would love to see a really strong conference where we would be able to hang with any wiac team or any other team in the nation. It's just not plausable right now.

I think that our conference's greatest weakness is the fact that we are mostly private schools, many with a religious tie. This could lead many student athletes to choose to go somewhere else.

Also the high cost of education at our schools is prohibitive, I think Lakeland is the lowest at just over 19000 a year with fees and such included. CURF must be one of the more expensive, just due to location and other factors, Somewhere close to 26000.

I had a question... what do you mean by admin support? Like a lack of money for recruiting or something? Or do they just want to cut the program all together for lack of production?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3fballfan on November 01, 2005, 01:45:21 PM
Of course the residents near CURF won't let them play music...It's the Oak-Park River Forest area, filled with Richie-Rich high brow snobs that live in Frank LLoyd Wright houses.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 01, 2005, 02:53:23 PM
fsufb-

I can't buy into the religious thing. Wheaton is a big time religious campus but is at or near the top each year.  I think some of the problem in the IBFC is the change in coaching. New coach comes in and may or may not the find skill players for the the new O or D he brought with him. It may take years of recruiting to blend that scheme. In the meantime if these appointments are short term or if the support from the Admin. isn't there the coach may leave and the program suffers. In some programs a freshman could got through a number of coaching changes, never perfecting his skill level.

Falcbfan- drives home a good point. When the program is struggling and the fan base is low and the community is not supportive, recruitment becomes difficult. CUR coaches have, I believe, moved on because of these problems. Recruiting top coaches (not to say the CUR doesn't have good coaching) becomes impossible.

It would help recruiting if the local press would give as much attention to DIII sports as they do to local H.S. programs. I could go on for hours on this subject.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 01, 2005, 07:18:40 PM
aufb05 makes some very good points.  Same thing basically occurred at Olivet in the MIAA.  For years, they changed coaches frequently, small school (although beautiful campus), out in the "middle of nowwhere", administrative and social problems.  It indeed takes years to develop that.  However, they finally got the right administration, right coaching staff to change the direction, improved their community fan base, alumni started donating (big time with new facilities), improved the curriculum, etc.,etc.  They will probably never be a powerhouse, and there are probably better schools academically (doesn't mean students there don't get a good education and of course, what a student gets out of their college experience depends in part on what they are looking for to help them in the future).  Anyway, my point is that I would agree with you that it is not impossible for CURF to do - it, though, indeed can be a long and difficult road.  Hopefully, they can improve it.  I would hate to see them drop the program - no need to really. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 01, 2005, 09:12:24 PM
d3fbfan,

The Frank Lloyd Wright homes are in Oak Park (the nearest one to CURF is probably 3 miles away).  The area immediately around CURF is by no means noticeably wealthy (certainly not poor, but not 'Richie-Rich').

I suspect the protest against music at games is a simple matter of being jerks, rather than specifically 'high brow snobs' jerks!  (Of course, they might be Richie-Rich, high brow snobs wanne-bes.  That I can't say either way!)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 01, 2005, 11:22:07 PM
Mr. Ypsi said,

QuoteThe area immediately around CURF is by no means noticeably wealthy (certainly not poor, but not 'Richie-Rich').

Have you ever been to River Forest before?  you said the area around CURF is not noticeably wealthy.  Are you kidding me?  Million dollar homes arent wealthy enough for you?  I mean, Al Capones home is 3 blocks away, (obviously his old home), they just filmed a part of the new fox show "Prison Break", in a huge white house across the street.  I mean, if you have ever been, and driven through River Forest than I apologize for questioning you, but if you haven't, than calling River Forest not "noticeably wealthy" is just a rediculious thing to say.  If half a million to million dollar homes are not wealthy to you, than I really want to see where you live.  And this is definately not tearing down the Oak Park area, and "Frank Lloyd Wright" types of homes, that area is amazing as well.

Back to someones discussion on no music at games.  Ever notice there are no lights at the field either??  That's because the city of River Forest petitioned and said it would bring down the value of their homes surrounding the campus.  That is snobby enough for me.

The facilities are nice yes, they were the first in Illionois to install the new style field turf for football.  I don't know what the problem is, and why they can't get players to stay, and we may never know.  But CURF has to do something in the near future, or else they will keep having the 0-10, 1-9, and 2-8 seasons they have been for the past 3 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 01, 2005, 11:56:31 PM
baseman201,

I can't speak from recent knowlege, but my brother taught at Oak Park-River Forest High School until the mid-90s, and I visited him in his homes in both Oak Park and River Forest (his RF home was only about 6 blocks from CURF).

I don't wish to be argumentative, because I just don't know, but the immediate area of CURF just didn't strike me as all THAT wealthy.   Given the explosion of home prices in desirable areas, I won't contest that houses in that area would go for what you say (though I would GUESS that 3-4 hundred K would be closer).  Lacking info that is less than 10 years old, I will drop out of the discussion!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 02, 2005, 07:48:40 AM
  This week lacks the kind of excitement of last weeks schedule as the winner of the IBFC is pretty much a given.
  Some teams are having a nice season while others have fallen off the radar. One just needs to look at the STANDINGS to see whose where.
  Looking ahead i think there will be  major changes next year in the overall standings of this conference.  IMO
    This week, 11/05
   (1) BU vs Con,Ill: BU is playing well and Con,Ill  while showing up every Saturday  just doesn`t have the talent or numbers to out play anybody.
   BU gets the "W".
   (2) Con,W vs Eureka: Eureka always plays hard
   but CW is to strong talent wise.
   CW gets the "W"
   (3) Mac vs Aurora: AU was man handled by LC last week and they`re looking to whip up on somebody. Mac on the other hand has not lived up to expectations. They have a good QB, a better RB and a up and coming WR but other areas of their offense have come up short.
   AU gets the "W"
   (4) LC vs Greenville: LC will take no chances, they will come to play! Undefeated season on the horizon.....conference play.
    Greenville will not fold,they`ll just get beat.
    LC gets the "W"
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 02, 2005, 09:22:13 AM
Gomer-

No need to post results this week, you nailed it.

I have to agreed with you that the last IBFC season (next year) will show changes in the standings. Which seems to be a good topic of conversation as this season comes to a close.

So "Board" who is takes IBFC Coach and Player of the year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 02, 2005, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 02, 2005, 09:22:13 AM

So "Board" who is takes IBFC Coach and Player of the year.

You know as much as I'm not for just giving it to the winner of the conference's coach, I'd have to say for what Zebrowski has done for Lakeland, he's brought so much pride back into the program, through alumni, current students, staff, etc. Not to mention turned around a mediocre program.

As for player... Maybe Benton? He's like 2nd in the nation at sacks per game, plus an interception for a touchdown. I'm not too sure about the other teams, even though I did go to all but one of the Lakeland games so far.

Do we have any other statistical leaders? Maybe the CUW guy at 2nd in interceptions? Maybe Maiuri for offensive back?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 02, 2005, 10:50:43 AM
Congradulations to LC both for getting through conference and for making the front page of d3.com.  Do well in the playoffs, we are counting on you.  Also I think this is the first time an IBFC team had a picture on this site, even though the article is about Monmouth.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 02, 2005, 06:37:20 PM
yall know whose conference Greenville will be in when everything changes? I heard it may be in the same conference as the Anderson Ravens?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 03, 2005, 01:31:11 AM
You know i'm kind of disappointed, this board was pretty lively all year and now that Lakeland won the playoff birth, everyone seems to have dropped off.

I mean granted we don't have over 100 pages and stuff like some of the other conferences, but we are a small conference with a lot of small schools, I mean LC's at around 900 and Eureka is what about 600... But that shouldn't stop of from still talking fb...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 03, 2005, 09:40:34 AM
Perhaps they're too jived that basketball season is starting soon.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 03, 2005, 10:16:45 AM
Quote from: uamusme on November 03, 2005, 01:31:11 AM
You know i'm kind of disappointed, this board was pretty lively all year and now that Lakeland won the playoff birth, everyone seems to have dropped off.

I mean granted we don't have over 100 pages and stuff like some of the other conferences, but we are a small conference with a lot of small schools, I mean LC's at around 900 and Eureka is what about 600... But that shouldn't stop of from still talking fb...

  You`ve got the floor...............bring up something that will invoke some comments.
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 03, 2005, 11:33:33 AM
Where is the Picture of Lakeland on the D3 site. Did I miss something? Also, 'THE ALL MADDOG TEAM'  will be out by Nov. 14, please forward you teams selections, and thanks for your input. I'm sure some will not be happy but then again not everyone can make it. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 03, 2005, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on November 03, 2005, 11:33:33 AM
Where is the Picture of Lakeland on the D3 site. Did I miss something? Also, 'THE ALL MADDOG TEAM'  will be out by Nov. 14, please forward you teams selections, and thanks for your input. I'm sure some will not be happy but then again not everyone can make it. 

Maddog8: I didn`t see a picture either but did see a write-up in the ."Around the region " section.
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 03, 2005, 02:59:46 PM
I was saying congrats to LC for making the front page "Around the Region" section. The picture was from the CUW Monmouth game.  It is now at the bottom of the front page.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 03, 2005, 07:41:46 PM
Trucounty:
That would be news to the rest of us.  I think that is unlikely.  Anderson is in the HCAC and the only team that is joining that conference that has been announced of recent as I recall is Rose-Hulman, unless I missed something.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 03, 2005, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 03, 2005, 10:16:45 AM

  You`ve got the floor...............bring up something that will invoke some comments.
 
 


OK I will...

Since we all know that right now just because of our schools... lets say not performing in the playoffs, we have become the laughing stock as a conference.

Do you think that with the creation of the new conference we will still be thought of in the same way, or will it take a win in the playoffs no matter what?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 04, 2005, 09:30:51 AM
Quote from: uamusme on November 03, 2005, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 03, 2005, 10:16:45 AM

  You`ve got the floor...............bring up something that will invoke some comments.
 
 


OK I will...

Since we all know that right now just because of our schools... lets say not performing in the playoffs, we have become the laughing stock as a conference.

Do you think that with the creation of the new conference we will still be thought of in the same way, or will it take a win in the playoffs no matter what?

Couple things come to mind. First, the IBFC is a relative new comer to the world of NCAA play-offs.
  I believe Mac was eligible in 2001 as they had left the SLAC to join the IBFC. I`m not sure when the IBC was formed so they would be NCAA play-off eligible but it hasn`t been very long. Maybe others can provide some insite.
  I read on D3 football, a while ago, that Eureka was the small-ist school in D3 playing football, student enrollment wise. Now that`s out of 220+ schools playing football.
  If you look on the D3 site they have a section that shows teams that have won NCAA play-off games .
  You`ll notice that there are a lot of teams from the "old guard" that have never won a play-off  either. Some of those schools have been playing football forever.
  One thing in my mind about that is some schools support football while some field a football team to
  help overall enrollment. IMO. An example of that is Mac`s football/student ratio. Student body 600(about) football team 100 (about) making the FB team 17% of the student body. Figures are representitive. Course you can say that about all schools but the operative words here are support and field. Big difference. Look at the consistant winners, they have the support of the admin for their program. The others, lots of different agendas.
NCAA  play off teams from the IBFC: CW,Aurora, Mac
while they have lost, they have played their opponents right up till the end. Keep in mind their are a lot of other teams in a lot of other conferences that are winless as well. 
   LC, as this years IBFC champs, will march into the NCAA play-offs with one thing in mind.......win.
  All they can do like the teams before them is line up and play. Every year the IBC rep is under the gun to get that first NCAA play off win.....could this be the year?
  If the IBFC folds like some have mentioned or re-forms i don`t see an major up side, IMO.
  Looks like some schools are moving back to an even lesser conference which, while you may win the title, leaves you as cannon fodder in the play-offs.
  I wonder what the school agenda is there?
   My thoughts are ment to stir ( in some areas)
   rebuttal, simular trains of thought or what ever seems to fit in here. Dialogue of any kind is better then nothing.
  If i`ve made any errors in stated facts, my apologies. 
   
   
     
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 04, 2005, 09:54:09 AM
Coach of the year - that's easy, Zebrowski from Lakeland in a landslide.

Player of the year - a lot tougher, although I think the top candidates (in no particular order) are Lakeland QB Ryan Maiuri, Lakeland DL David Benton and Lakeland LB Ryan Van De Loo. Maiuri is easily offensive back of the year. I just do not see any single player from another team having the kind of impact all season that these three have had.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 04, 2005, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: fishguy on November 04, 2005, 09:54:09 AM
Coach of the year - that's easy, Zebrowski from Lakeland in a landslide.

Player of the year - a lot tougher, although I think the top candidates (in no particular order) are Lakeland QB Ryan Maiuri, Lakeland DL David Benton and Lakeland LB Ryan Van De Loo. Maiuri is easily offensive back of the year. I just do not see any single player from another team having the kind of impact all season that these three have had.

  Let me ask a question. It`s pretty easy for a coach who has the "horses" and some 5th year seniors
  to look good as he has, so where is the masterful
  job of coaching? 
  There are other coaches in the IBC who have done a good job with far less. Not so much in winning but in major progress in their programs. BU and Greenville come to mind.
   Put another way, if the coach at LC was the coach at lets say BU then for sure he`d win, as you said, " in a landside."  Just another point of view.
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 04, 2005, 10:47:05 AM
I totally agree with you Gomer. Since I'm pretty new to the boards I was wondering who votes for the coach of the year/player of the year? Is it coachs/players/fans?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 04, 2005, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: d3ftball1 on November 04, 2005, 10:47:05 AM
I totally agree with you Gomer. Since I'm pretty new to the boards I was wondering who votes for the coach of the year/player of the year? Is it coachs/players/fans?

I believe the various coaches and possibly SID`s in the IBFC vote amongest themselves for coach of the year plus they also vote the for the various player categories.
  No fan participation except for Maddogs8`s
   yearly and much anticipated IBFC " All Maddog Team. "
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 04, 2005, 01:24:15 PM
I look forward to seeing Maddogs team! I guess someone will have to step up next year since his son is a senior and will be graduating. Unless he plans on following the stats and doing a team next year. Is that possible Maddog? I know you said you would be spending more time with your daughters.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 04, 2005, 03:19:45 PM
While we are on who is good and who isn't. I like to bring out a point on O positions.

We can measure a whole slue of things for QB, RB or WR but when it comes to O lineman, TE or true FB, these players are regretfully overlooked and often underrated.

Show me a QB or RB with decent stats and I show you a O lineman, TE or FB who has made the blocks to produce those stats. Yet the game doesn't record O blocks as the D records tackles and assists.

There has got to be some O lineman, TE or FB out there who can talk about the QB or RB they turned into Conference standouts, while their play was overlooked. Or some conversation about recording blocks. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 04, 2005, 05:11:37 PM
AU

Good point. There have been comments on here about QB's not doing good because the O line was weak but when they talk about all the completed passes and the yards gained no one ever says wow they have a great O line or they really had alot of good blocks. I wonder why they don't keep stats on that like they do on tackles and assisted tackles. I'm sure the QB's give alot of credit to their O lines!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 04, 2005, 06:52:35 PM
Who said Lakeland had everything in place for a run like this? Remember back in 2002 when Lakeland went 5-5 in Coach Hynes' last year? How about the next year with pretty much the same people except with Zebrowski? 8-2. How about the next year after losing Luebke and Taff? 7-3. How about the next year (This year) With THREE freshman starting at the linebacker position before Nick Hunter was adjusted enough from the shift from O to D to take over as ILB next to Van De Loo. The freshman outside backers Hornes and Wagner have been studs. Not to mention a BACKUP freshman linebacker has two defensive TDs this year in Brent Miller. On offense, Denham out for the year. Barrie didn't pan out. Where do you go from there? Oh yeah, a guy who got close to NO playing time in 2004 in Shawn Lee and two more freshman in Erdman and Fitzgerald. And a bunch of first time starting wide receivers.

The offensive and defensive lines are like the only thing you can say that was in place for him to work with, and even then what are you gonna say? Talent doesn't blossom without good coaching.

I don't know how you CANNOT give Coach of the Year to Zebrowski.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 05, 2005, 12:28:10 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 04, 2005, 10:23:16 AM

  Let me ask a question. It`s pretty easy for a coach who has the "horses" and some 5th year seniors
  to look good as he has, so where is the masterful
  job of coaching? 
  There are other coaches in the IBC who have done a good job with far less. Not so much in winning but in major progress in their programs. BU and Greenville come to mind.
   Put another way, if the coach at LC was the coach at lets say BU then for sure he`d win, as you said, " in a landside."  Just another point of view.

   
Quote

Well, for starters, they lost an all-american linebacker and are starting two freshmen at linebacker and slapped Aurora - a playoff team from a year ago - with a 58-0 whipping. And those seniors were struggling mightily under the previous coach - just check Lakeland's records - but they are thriving under Zebrowski, and not just because they are in their fourth or fifth season of college ball. I understand your devil's advocate viewpoint, but frankly Lakeland was not at the top of the league when Zebrowski took over, and they are now. They have better players (a sign of good recruiting), and the players he inherited have more impact, which also is, in part, a sign of good coaching. If you want to look at this award in terms of major progress, Zebrowski still wins, in my view. He is a young coaching star with much bigger days ahead of him.
Title: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 03:37:10 AM
A couple people come to mind from Greenville to be on this All-Maddog Team. Special Team punter Reggie Anthony whose is currently 4th in the nation in punting. Defense Mark Schopp for 5 interceptions this year. (Hopefully saturday after Greenville stop's Lakeland's ground attack he will have a couple more) Also Jon DeJulio, he has a been a great WR this season.  I just wanted to remind the people here that there is another great college and football program down here, south of Chicago believe it or not. Lastly Coach Hehman for building a stronger foundation for that GC team. He and his staff are doing amazing things with that program. If Lakeland thinks coming to GC Saturday will be a "in and out deal lets think playoffs" they got alot coming. But good luck to all the teams Saturday. God Bless-
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 05, 2005, 05:14:30 AM
d3football1, Yes I will continue to do the "ALL MADDOG TEAM" next year. I enjoy this stuff. The 1st, 2nd and Hornorable mention teams will be out next week. As for MADDOGS (2) COACHES OF THE YEAR AND WHY?

#1 COACH OF THE YEAR " Coach Jim Zebrowski-Lakeland, Jim has taken a program that was 5-5 and in three years has made a pwoer house program. Going 8-2 his first year then a Co-Championship team to a Outright Championship team. Brought this team to the schools FIRST playoff game in there 71 year history. Jim in my eye's is a D-I coach and will be so in the near future. He has had his teams in the nations best catagories, rushing, total offense, sacks etc.  His recruiting for a school in a "no mans land" has been excellent. (ex. he gets recriuts out of Detroit, where BU can't get out of Chicago next door).

#2 COACH OF THE YEAR "Coach Hehman-Greenville. This NEW coach has taken a program from NOTHING to one of the Conferences TOP TEAMS. I the four years of following this program I have seen a team blossom into a contender. This team has been putting a licking on team the used to blow them out. Look for Greenville in the top (2) next year!!!!!!!!

TEAM OF THE YEAR- LAKELAND

MOST IMPROVED TEAM OF THE YEAR- GREENVILLE

MOST DISAPPOINTING TEAM OF THE YEAR-Mac MURRY

TEAMS ON THE RISE-GREENVILLE, BU

Again some may or may not agree, THESE ARE MY PICKS BASEDON MY OPINION FROM WHAT I SAW THIS YEAR!

Good luck to all IBFC teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 05, 2005, 09:15:27 AM
Trucountry95, I do agree that Greenville is on the rise but rest asure LAKELAND comes in and walks out without an issue. Greenville is not at their level just yet. Lakeland by 5 TD's. Can't make the game so let me know how close I was. Had to work today unfortunately, otherwise I would have drove from Detroit down there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 05, 2005, 09:37:31 AM
"MADDOG'S" TOP PLAYERS to CHOOSE from for PLAYER of the YEAR!!!!!

OFFENSE;
RYAN MAIURI---------------QB-------------LAKELAND
BYRON VANDELAN---------OL-------------LAKELAND
IMMANUUEAL MILLS-------RB-------------CUW


DEFENSE;
BOBBY LANGSTON---------DL--------------CUW
DAVID BENTON-------------DL--------------LAKELAND
RYAN VAN DE LOO---------LB--------------LAKELAND
ROBBIE PERRY-------------DB--------------AU


PLEASE VOTE!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 05, 2005, 10:32:32 AM
Maddog

If your near a computer at work you can listen to the game online at the Greenville web page. All the games are broadcast by two students when they are home or away. I'll be heading to the game in alittle bit if you need help finding the site let me know.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 05, 2005, 10:47:37 AM
d3football1, problem all the computers don't have speakers here. guess I will have to hope GCFan keeps posting the quarter scores. I'd like to see how they are doing on offense and defense. thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 05, 2005, 02:38:09 PM
At the end of the 1st Quarter - Lakeland 7 Greenville 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 03:21:25 PM
At Halftime Lakeland 7 Greenville -0

Apparently Greenville can play at LC's level. The only level Lakeland is different on is when it comes to the playoffs and Lakeland is going home with a 5 TD loss!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2005, 04:02:01 PM
 Just to echo..............LC-7   Greenville-0 at the half.
      Another half to go.........you never know.
    Anybody gets a 3rd and 4th quarter score .......................post it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 04:11:56 PM
End of 3rd quarter    Lakeland   Greenville-0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 05, 2005, 04:36:47 PM
Lakeland 14 - Greenville 7 - with 4:03 left in regulation
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 05, 2005, 05:05:37 PM
Final score - Lakeland 20 - Greenville 13

Despite the loss you got to give props to Greenville for hanging in with Lakeland.  As Maddog said earlier today, Greenville has definetly improved and they should be near the top in the conference next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 05, 2005, 05:06:47 PM
Greenville does have one more game next week at home against Washington University from St. Louis
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 05:21:04 PM
End of game Lakeland-20   Greenville-13

Good game overall. Lakeland demostrated as they have demostrated all year long, their ability to play with absolute zero class or sportsmanship. Lakeland racked up late hit penalties as well as unsportsmanlike conduct. This is why Lakeland deserves to be beat into the ground once they enter the payback land of Playoffs. Once Lakeland gets pummeled in the playoffs maybe the leason will sink in that late hits, unsportsmanlike conduct and post-game extra-curricular activities (during the tradition hand-shake), are not necessary and it does nothing but demolish a programs rep as well as it's student athletes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2005, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 05:21:04 PM
End of game Lakeland-20   Greenville-13

Good game overall. Lakeland demostrated as they have demostrated all year long, their ability to play with absolute zero class or sportsmanship. Lakeland racked up late hit penalties as well as unsportsmanlike conduct. This is why Lakeland deserves to be beat into the ground once they enter the payback land of Playoffs. Once Lakeland
gets pummeled in the playoffs maybe the leason will sink in that late hits, unsportsmanlike conduct and post-game extra-curricular activities (during the tradition hand-shake), are not necessary and it does nothing but demolish a programs rep as well as it's student athletes.

If i`m not mistaken LC is the most penalized team or second most (as per the IBFC site) in the conference.
  Sounds like GC was not intimidated by Lakeland
   and gave them all they could handle.
   I wonder what the lakeland folks will have to say about it?  I sure hope they don`t blame it on everything under the sun.  Looking forward to the reasons why. 
   After storming through the IBC and on the verge of an NCAA play-off game they(LC) could have played their worst game of the year or Greenville  is a must better team then most believe.  What do you Think?
  One last comment. Looking at the D3 Top 25 yesterday  i didn`t see LC listed. Looked at the "also
  rans" and didn`t see then listed.  Do all the pollsters know something?? Apparently so.
 

   
 
       
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 05, 2005, 08:31:02 PM
I said it early on Greenville is no walk in the park. That said LAKE is  our representative in the play offs and we should support their efforts. 

AU-21 Mac-14 Final
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 05, 2005, 09:07:14 PM
That's true, Lakeland is our representative in the playoffs, so good luck to them in 2 weeks.  And I was going to say that Maddogg was going to pick mostly Lakeland players, which he did.  Although if my son played at a school, I would pick him, and all the team as well for an "all conference" team. 

Well, as I said good luck to Lakeland.  I have a bet with my friend that the IBFC team to go to the playoffs will lose by 25+ points.  I want some free Taco Bell,  don't let me down Lakeland............ok, it would be cool to win a playoff game for the IBFC.  But hey, free Taco Bell sounds good too.

Awesome game today with BU and CURF.  went to Overtime.  Best game I have seen in awhile.

I am out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 05, 2005, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2005, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 05:21:04 PM
End of game Lakeland-20   Greenville-13

Good game overall. Lakeland demostrated as they have demostrated all year long, their ability to play with absolute zero class or sportsmanship. Lakeland racked up late hit penalties as well as unsportsmanlike conduct. This is why Lakeland deserves to be beat into the ground once they enter the payback land of Playoffs. Once Lakeland
gets pummeled in the playoffs maybe the leason will sink in that late hits, unsportsmanlike conduct and post-game extra-curricular activities (during the tradition hand-shake), are not necessary and it does nothing but demolish a programs rep as well as it's student athletes.

If i`m not mistaken LC is the most penalized team or second most (as per the IBFC site) in the conference.
  Sounds like GC was not intimidated by Lakeland
   and gave them all they could handle.
   I wonder what the lakeland folks will have to say about it?  I sure hope they don`t blame it on everything under the sun.  Looking forward to the reasons why. 
   After storming through the IBC and on the verge of an NCAA play-off game they(LC) could have played their worst game of the year or Greenville  is a must better team then most believe.  What do you Think?
  One last comment. Looking at the D3 Top 25 yesterday  i didn`t see LC listed. Looked at the "also
  rans" and didn`t see then listed.  Do all the pollsters know something?? Apparently so.
 

   
 
       
 
 

Well well.  Lakeland wins without class eh?  Just because Lakeland plays with intensity on both sides of the ball (which, by the way, wins league championships and playoff births) you say they play dirty.  Sounds to me like everyone is having sour grapes.

Another thing.  Lakeland is not in the Top 25 or others mentioned for one reason.  This conference suxs.  plain and simple.  Your telling me that a conference that has never had a playoff win.  Then I wonder why we get not even a notice.  Lakeland cannot be at fault for everyone else being so terrible.  Nothing they can do about that.  IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY PENALITIES a team gets in a season.  Last time I looked at a stat sheet, it didnt differentiate between personal fouls and holding/facemask calls.   ::)

Lakeland has the best chance in this lowly conference to even make a playoff showing this year, and everyone here has to know that.  Ben, Greenville, AU, MAC, and CUW are ok or on the verge of getting there one day.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Warrior_Fish on November 05, 2005, 10:41:57 PM
That last post was mine.  Big_Uns, next time remember to log off my computer!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 06, 2005, 09:21:05 AM
Warrior Fish-

You must be a fan with limited knowledge of the IBFC Teams.

QUOTE:
"Ben, Greenville, AU, MAC, and CUW are ok or on the verge of getting there one day."

AU has been to the dance and back - Last yr. against No. 6 Wooster - 41-34, All American RB Sutton was the difference.

Best of luck to the LAKE in the playoffs - Fish don't give up your day job.






Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 06, 2005, 09:54:55 AM
Baseman101, you sound like an idiot, first I pick who I FEEL are the best players. and because of the HOGS my son is among the best, NOT because I think so. In addition can anyone with REAL football sense NOT baseball sense, disagree with my player of the year picks NoT ALL LAKELAND PLAYERS. As for my 1st and 2nd units YOU will be surprised at my picks. If I were a coach this would be my TEAM. Second for all thoughs out there Greenville is FOR REAL. I didn't have to go to the game to realize that. As for Cheapshot, WELL I WAS LISTENING ON THE INTERNET AND YOUR COMMENTATORS SAID THAT GREENVILLE WAS TAKING CHEAPSHOTS ON THE QB AND GETTING RUFING THE PASSER PENALTIES. Unless he was making a mistake. Sooner or later people have to realize also that the MUSKIES are already for REAL. Greenville is the most improved team in the conference, I will agree to that. Now everyone SHOULD support the IBFC CHAMPS for the playoffs. My teams will be out next week!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 06, 2005, 10:21:22 AM
Maddog8:  Just like last year except this time your "selections" aren`t even up yet and your catching flak.  So it goes in the life of a
  prognosticator or as John Paul Jones said," full
  speed ahead.....damn the torpedos."
Look at it this way, if other folks want to put up "their" all IBC team....have at it. 
   
   
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 06, 2005, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 06, 2005, 09:21:05 AM
Warrior Fish-

You must be a fan with limited knowledge of the IBFC Teams.

QUOTE:
"Ben, Greenville, AU, MAC, and CUW are ok or on the verge of getting there one day."

AU has been to the dance and back - Last yr. against No. 6 Wooster - 41-34, All American RB Sutton was the difference.

Best of luck to the LAKE in the playoffs - Fish don't give up your day job.

aufb05: You are correct in what you said but i`d like to add: MacMurray rolled throught the IBFC in
  2001 and 2002 winning "not" sharing the Championship with anybody. By doing so they also played in 2 NCAA play-off games( back to back years.) They led Thomas Moore Into the final seconds but lost on a well thrown pass into the end zone.  The other loss was a blow out to Wabash.
  You right about the "Know your history of the IBFC."
  Opinions are just that......opinions but facts are
  indisputable!

   







Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 06, 2005, 12:31:02 PM
Gomer-

Your right MAC has been to the dance. I wasn't trying to make AU stand out, just trying to make a point to Fish.

PS - just noticed your a starter, congrats!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 06, 2005, 03:32:29 PM
Maddog -

As for your player of the year nominations defensively, I would have to say that you put Jerral Davidson on the list before you put Robbie Perry up there.  Davidson and #8 from CUW were by far the toughest corners to go up against this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 06, 2005, 05:09:22 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 06, 2005, 12:31:02 PM
Gomer-

Your right MAC has been to the dance. I wasn't trying to make AU stand out, just trying to make a point to Fish.

PS - just noticed your a starter, congrats!

  aufbo5:  No offense taken.  Just wanted to give Mac their dues. Plus, let people know who was the power a few years ago. Some of the guys who post on here forget some times who did what and when.
Goes to being .....informed.
  A STARTER you say.  Going on 5 yrs and i`ve made the "big" time. Thanks for pointing that out.
  Just one other "give them their dues" Con,W and Aurora were also great teams in the past. 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 06, 2005, 05:39:10 PM
Maddog-

Sent my AU picks for the all Maddog team to your e-mail address.


Gomer-

Youir right, LAKE is joining some good company. Nice win for BEN but a hellava game for CUR. I'm bringing my boom-box to their stadium next your. What's FB without motoviating music.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 06, 2005, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: grover1728 on November 06, 2005, 03:32:29 PM
Maddog -

As for your player of the year nominations defensively, I would have to say that you put Jerral Davidson on the list before you put Robbie Perry up there.  Davidson and #8 from CUW were by far the toughest corners to go up against this year.

I'd agree big time on Davidson - he was the lone bright spot for Aurora in an otherwise forgettable trip to Lakeland this season. He went toe to toe with Lakeland's receive White and had some great defensive plays.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 07, 2005, 12:20:10 AM
aufb05 -

I don't know about that boom-box.  We had our pre-game music this week, but get this, some neighbors called the police because the "fans were too loud".  The RF police just dismissed the call, but seriously, Concordia needs to put a foot down when it comes to stuff like that.  It is a college, and no matter what the community feels, they need to realize that CURF provides them with great facilities that are open to the public and that CURF does have college athletics, which will not change.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on November 07, 2005, 12:46:13 AM
CURF's Neighborhood 8)
The school provides much to the surrounding area but the big homes and people that live in them give little if anything back.  I asked the head coach why no night lighting (the people aroud the school say it will br too bright and cause too much traffic).  GO figure.  Until the school admin. gets stronger in their community relations CURF will continue to be treated like a second class cousin that has overstayed their welcome.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 07, 2005, 04:47:25 AM
Guys was Davidson #2 because I would have to agree with you then. Without looking at the rooster I thaought Perry was #2?. If this was Davidson then I would add him to the list, but with Perry being a preseason all american he deserves to be there. He was AU's bright spot last year as were others.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 07, 2005, 04:50:22 AM
I will add that Davidson and CUW's 8 were on the 1st team "D" but unfortunately I can't catch every athlete in action that is why I suggested some feed back from all of you fans. I do think I am not far off the true IBFC list for my selections. Last year I think I was off by 2 players. Thanks in part to Bobby Langston for his help.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 07, 2005, 08:34:01 AM
 Perry from AU had a really good season last year and a good season this year.
  He`s tied for 4th in the conference for INt`s and
  19th in tackes (as per the IBFC site)
   That being said , you can see there are other guys with better stats. Who are proving their worth
to their teams. Not to say he hasn`t. but they`re stats are better.
   His "pre-season" selection does not automatically put him first in line for anything.
    Lets not let "Projection" over shadow performance it`s not the way to go.
   Maddog said in part," he deserves to be there."
   I just happen to disagree.
   No disrespect intended.
   
   
  .
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 07, 2005, 09:07:18 AM
Maddog -

Yeah, Davidson was #2.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 07, 2005, 09:33:42 AM
Grover1728-

I've been to CUR several times. The College should buy out some of those homes on the North side of the field and buffer the field with additional parking.

RF residents are toads - buy next to an airport and expect planes, buy next to a college football stadium and expect opera??? DA
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 07, 2005, 09:46:12 AM
Current AU "D" Leaders after 9 games

                     Solo     Assists     Sacks     Pass Def.
1. Dentino       28         24           5             0
2. Perry          27         25           0             3
3. Tate           20         32           1            0
4. Davidson     28           7           0            3

All great ballplayers!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 07, 2005, 10:28:32 AM
Current Greenville D leaders after 8 games


                               Solo   Asst    Sacks  Broken up  Interceptions
1 J R Harriel              36       46      4            2
2 Barton Davis          31       31      1            1
3 Russell Reece         28       17      8            1
4 Reggie Anthony     24        18      2            1
5 Mark Schopp           23        7                     8                   4

Reggie Anthony also leads the conf in punting. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 07, 2005, 10:34:49 AM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 07, 2005, 09:46:12 AM
Current AU "D" Leaders after 9 games

                     Solo     Assists     Sacks     Pass Def.
1. Dentino       28         24           5             0
2. Perry          27         25           0             3
3. Tate           20         32           1            0
4. Davidson     28           7           0            3

All great ballplayers!!

 aufb05: not questioning your statement." all are great ballplayers."
   Rather the order  in which you have them listed.  A friendly  question at that.
 I just looked at the AU "D" leaders site and saw the following
  (1) Dentino
   (2) Perry
  ( 3) Tate
   (4) Whalen
   (5) Davidson.
   That is Nov 5th information.
   Are my eyes deceiving me? If i`m in error, my
   apologies.
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 07, 2005, 12:33:47 PM
Gomer- This is why your a starter and I'm not ;D

AU revised "D" leaders as of 11/5

                       Solo     Assists    Sacks    Pass Def.
1. Dentino       32       26            7           0
2. Perry          31       27            0           3
3. Tate           21       35            1           0
4. Walen         21       27            0           0
5. Davidson     29       8              0           4
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 07, 2005, 01:49:59 PM
Guys you should look at from CUW

Mills and Langston are a given.  Mills probably player of the year in the conference.

Ryan Robers and Nick Drabek OL
Wilbur Allen DL- has a great shot at being team DL of the year 8 solo sacks and lead the DL in tackles
Rick Hutchins #24- 8 ints this season
Jon Collier Mike Stienmetz WR- Stienmetz might be a special teams guy to look at

If you want to had some hardnose players that do not always get the ball Aaron Gillespie #4 and Matt Meyer #14- #4 is only 5'8 and doesn't weigh a whole lot but iso blocks for Mills and IS pound for pound the best blocker in the league. #14 is a WR who is called on for first down catches and along with Collier, asked to block on the edge for a lot of the long developing plays. #14 is the best blocking WR
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 07, 2005, 02:37:29 PM
excellent feedback guys thanks and keep them coming, so far only 2 players I did'nt already have on my list but that helps because again I couldn't notice everyone.  Tomorrow is the last day I will recieve nominee's Wed. will post 3rd team, Thurs, 2nd team and Friday the FIRST TEAM ALL MADDOG.  Last I will post my MADDOG PLAYER OF THE YEAR. This is my pick with no help, sorry.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 07, 2005, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 07, 2005, 12:33:47 PM
Gomer- This is why your a starter and I'm not ;D

AU revised "D" leaders as of 11/5

                       Solo     Assists    Sacks    Pass Def.
1. Dentino       32       26            7           0
2. Perry          31       27            0           3
3. Tate           21       35            1           0
4. Walen         21       27            0           0
5. Davidson     29       8              0           4

aufb05:   :o   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 07, 2005, 03:03:54 PM
aufb05: I was looking for this ;D not this :o :o
   looks like i`d better leave these things alone. LOL
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 07, 2005, 06:53:07 PM
I don't know if this is how I'm suppose post my nominations for All Maddog Team but here ya go maddog

1st Team Offense                           1st Team Defense
1. RB. CUW-- Mills                           1. LC-David Benton
2. QB. LC --- Ryan Mauiri                 2. GC- Jr. Harriel
3. WR. GC---Jon DeJulio                  3. MAC- Larry Pirollo
4. WR. LC--White                            4. CUW-Rick Hutchins
5. RB. MAC-Peter Ereg                     5. GC Mark Schopp
 
Special Teams- Reggie Anthony

2nd and 3rd teams could maybe include

QB-CUW Justin Lewis, QB-AU Andrew Hunrung
WR-GC Bryson Taylor, WR-CUW Mike Steinmetz

Defense
GC-Barton Davis, LC Ryan Vandaloo, EUREKA-Siji Moore, LC-Brent Miller

Alot of good athletes in the IBFC in 05. Next year should be a great year for the programs on the rise.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 07, 2005, 08:11:08 PM
Maddog - here is a possible nomination for the D-line from Greenville - Russell Reese here is what he has as of 8 games.....
28 Tackles - 17 Ast - 36.5 total
11.5 tackles for loss
8.5 sacks
1 blocked kick
1 safety
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 07, 2005, 08:44:14 PM
Maddog - I know there are a lot of good CB's in the conference, here is one other person who you should look at for one of your teams.....Mark Schopp, from Greenville.

as of 8 games - 26.5 tackles
4 Interceptions including 1 returned for a TD
8 passes broken up
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 07, 2005, 08:46:42 PM
aufb05-

Curf used to own a bunch of property around the school, but 3 years ago the president at the time got the school into a huge amount of debt.  Sad to say, curf had to sell all the property to try and pay off debts.  Now we have a new president, but its going to be some time before we get to where we used to be
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Bondtec on November 07, 2005, 09:23:26 PM
Maddog:

Haven't heard a lot about the place kickers.  That's where my experience is.  Have watched the majority of the place kickers throughout the year in Illini-Badger conference.

I base my nomination on many things since kickers are at the mercy of the team and coach's philosophy as to how many kicks they get in any one game.  I observed pre-game warmups (most kickers come out before the regular squad) and am able to get a good grasp of leg strength and accuracy of each kicker.  Points for the team are important but the kickers don't have a lot of say in whether or not a kicking play will be called.  That's why I watch the warmups to see how accurate they kick, how often through the uprights and the distance on practice field goals and kickoffs. 

Based on this, my nominations for your all-star team are as follows:

#1 - Greenville, Kyle Sanniec - he has the strongest and most accurate leg I saw this season.  Overall he's the most accurate on all of his kick attempts - PATs and field goals combined.  He's very accurate with his on-side kicks.  Stats for this season:  PATs 22/25 (87%); FG 3/4 (75%)

#2 - Concordia, Wisconsin, Kyle Mai - he is the points leader according to the IBFC and also handles their kickoffs.  Stats for this season:  PATs 25/30 (83%; FG 7/11 (64%).

#3 - Lakeland, Dan Lucchesi -  he is only a point behind  Mai in scoring (based on the latest info I have).   Stats for this season:  PATs 33/43 (77%); FG 4/4 (100%).

The IBFC seems to have a lot of good kickers but these are the three that stood out in my opinion.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Bondtec on November 07, 2005, 09:34:23 PM
Maddog:

Sorry, my stats were off, I made an error.  I indicated that Mai's PATs stats were 25/30 (83%).  Actually, it was 25/35 (71.4%). 

Just want to be as accurate as possible.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 07, 2005, 10:37:38 PM
If you're going by stats I'd say you're right, but I do know that the LC kicker has had some troubles in the last 3-4 games...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 08, 2005, 11:09:53 AM
No love for any BU players huh...hmmmm
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 08, 2005, 12:30:05 PM
Soulsenda-
Its your turn - pony up some BEN nominations.


Maddog-
Your turning this Board into the real deal.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 08, 2005, 01:21:39 PM
Alright I got some news maybe it could be a rumor but who knows. Greenville is playing Wash U thi s Saturday. Should be a good game. Our defense should really stick it to their air attack offense. But heres the thing they have a reciever known as Brad Duesing. Duesing needs 82 yards in the season finale to become the second player in NCAA history (Division I, II or III) to record four consecutive 1,000-yard receiving seasons. He also moved into eighth in Division III history with 272 catches. The player he is trying to get this record over is Jerry Rice . The rumor is ESPN is going to be at the game Saturday. That would be great for GC and for maybe the whole conf. D3 Football will be down here Saturday we also heard in case Brad breaks the record. One problem GC has Mark Schopp! Last year Mark Schopp went against Brad and Wash U switched to the middle of the field away from Mark.  Mark Schopp is ready, I'm sure that Brad Duesing is ready, so Saturday should be awesome here in Greenville!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 08, 2005, 01:50:46 PM
Tru Country-

What do think would be bigger news - Duesing setting the record or GRN's "D" stopping it.  Can't make the trip - so will the game be on webcast?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 08, 2005, 01:59:30 PM
aufb05 - The Greenville radio station will be broadcasting the game over the web:http://www.wgrn.net/listen/listenmedia.html
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: DeanCooper on November 08, 2005, 02:06:18 PM
Concordia University River Forest is currently looking for a new Head Football Coach as well as a new Ahtletic Director as of November 8, 2005.  

The former Head Coach Robert Conwell was the Head coach for the past two seasons, under his reigns the Cougars finished 0-20 (the last game against Benedictine was probably the best game, but again the Cougars fell in OT). It should be noted that prior to his position as Head Coach he served as the Defensive Coordinator under Head Coach Jeffrey Hynes for the 2003 season and the Cougar Defense finished 3rd in the conference.  Before the 2003 season Coach Jeff Hynes had been the head coach for the Lakeland Muskies.  CURF had offered the head coach position to Hynes atleast two times before he finally accepted the the postion in January of 2003.  The Cougars finished 2-8 under Hynes and snapped another long losing streak. So since the Cougars were so wonderful by winning two games the school promoted Hynes to Dean of Students July 7, 2004.  

Meanwhile CURF had hired Timothy Betustak to serve as the Athletic Director.  Betustak came from Aurora where he also coached football but previously coordinated the Cougars offense under Head Coach Brian Baker-Watson (predicessor to Hynes and currently the offensive coordinator at Benedictine who ironically defeated the Cougars in Conwell's last game). More irony precedes in Cougar history... Under Betustak's direction the Cougar Gridder offense was not very productive (resulting in zero wins in 2002) but CURF believed Mr. Betustak would be capable to coordinate the entire Athletic Department in the right direction.  

So Conwell was promoted to Head Coach in mid July but retained the Offensive Coordinator Theodore Smith.  What a great job CURF did to give Conwell ample time to hire assistants since there was none hired.  To say the least the Conwell and Smith did not see eye to eye.  Following the 2004 season (Cougars 0-10) Smith was released.  During the winter months Conwell developed cancer and the two coordinator positions were still open.  Thanks and praise to God the Conwell has overcome his battle with cancer and is healthy again.  When he recovered he tried to hire a few new coaches at which the school did not approve.  The process was long and drawn out but eventually new coordinators were not hired until mid-spring football practice and much was in disarray.  Coach Todd Black a former Cougar All-American was made co-offensive coordinator but he resigned after the Eureka game in 2005 in which the Cougs lost.  

Now the Cougars finished 2005 0-10 without many players due to ineligibility and other factors. The Cougars are again coachless and some might wonder who made the decisions to release Mr. Betustak and Coach Conwell.....Dean Jeffrey Hynes.  Look for another exciting off-season for the Concordia Cougars where the music can't be played loud and the players should stay in the dark.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 08, 2005, 03:17:11 PM
Sad day to be a Cougar.

We are looking at getting our 4th head coach in as many years, we can't have lights because of the yippy neighborhood, and the music cannot be played because of the disruption it would cause.  What in the hell is happening over here?? 

I can see why CURF hasn't had a successful program in like 20 years.  All hell is breaking loose over here.  We can't keep a head coach for more than 1 season, we can't keep players for more than 1 season, we can't recruit because there are no coaches placed in time to do so.  It's looking horrible.

Hopefully the new head coach has something up his sleeve, because he is going to have to work his ASS off to get this program back to the way it was in the mid 1980's.  Recruiting was a problem this year since Conwell was in the hospital for a majority of it, plus coaching positions were unfilled to help out.

Hopefully the next coach will stick around for more than a year and bring in some talent.  It doesn't have to be right away, maybe get a few more recruits for 2006, a few more for 2007.  And step by step we can have a respectable program, but it won't happen overnight, it will take some time. 

And GROVER, what affiliation do you have with CURF???  Just wondering since you pertained to CURF as "WE" in one post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 08, 2005, 04:17:57 PM
On the bright side BASEMAN it could be a great opportunity for someone who has goals, can stay focused and wants to spend the time at developing a creditable college football program.

CUR biggest challege won't be finding a coach, rather convinving players to be part of their FB program as well as convincing the Administration to support it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 08, 2005, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 08, 2005, 04:17:57 PM

CUR biggest challege won't be finding a coach, rather convinving players to be part of their FB program as well as convincing the Administration to support it.


What CURF needs is a coach to make the players buy in and believe that they will make a difference. A great coach can change the perceptions of his team around the school by making the students proud to be a part of the team and the school.

That's made all the difference at Lakeland, under Hynes the team was losing support all around the school. I'm not saying it's his fault, however once Zebrowski came in, he brought a different attitude to the program which in turn reflected extremely positively upon the team.

The players were encouraged but not forced to volunteer in the community, through the Boys and Girls clubs acting as lunch buddies or many like myself when I played would read to K-3 students on friday afternoons.

Though things like that the faculty and staff started to buy into the program, started showing up to the home games, and now I would have to say other than with the exception of the Greenville away games we probably travel best in the conference. (I could be overstating, but not too many fans other than CUW seem to travel much unless they are parents.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 08, 2005, 05:05:59 PM
 Dean Cooper... baseman201:
  Awhile back i said something to the effect that some schools have a football team(for show) while others (with the backing of the school admin) put forth the effort in selecting a coaching staff that
 can recruit, field a competitive team and challenge
for the conference title.
 Look at Mount union, Wash U just to name a couple.
 My point is, no admin backing...you`ve got a CUR.
 It looks like until the "suits" get on board CUR will field a team just for show.
 I`m not raggin on CUR just giving my opinion.
 

 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 08, 2005, 05:11:48 PM
I agree completely with uamusme's statements. While Hynes was at Lakeland, you could hear the grumbling throughout the campus. With Zebrowski there, you don't hear it. You hear positive things about the program. It's not as if Lakeland needed rebuilding talent-wise when Hynes left, it's that they needed some charisma, and Zebrowski brought that to the program.

If I were the new coach at CURF, I'd seriously go door to door around the neighborhood promoting my program and the school. This is a hell of an undertaking but seriously, when there's so much community backlash, there's not much else you can do.

At Lakeland it seems easy to do because your community is a stalk of corn, but even so the community outreach has been incredible. Give your program a good name despite its futility, and people will recognize you not as a laughing stock anymore. The least they could do is give it a shot. It seems as if this situation is so far against CURF, that they need to start from square one.

I don't exactly know what CURF does around the community, but it seems like they've got a bad name for themselves. There's a lot more to having a good school and fielding a successful football program than just what you do on the field, and I think everything is working against CURF right now.

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As for nominations for the All-Maddog Team, here are mine:

QB - Ryan Maiuri, LC; Andrew Hornung, AU, Shaun Manning, EC
RB - Immanuel Mills, CUW; Peter Ereg, MAC
WR/TE - Joe Sergo, BU; Terry Martin, MAC; MacArthur White, LC
OL - Pick any from LC or CUW

DL - David Benton, LC; Russell Reece, GC; Bobby Langston, CUW; Wilbur Allen, CUW
LB - Ryan Van De Loo, LC; J.R. Harriel, GC; John Wagner, LC; Larry Pirollo, MAC
DB - Rick Hutchins, CUW; Jerral Davidson, GC

K - Kyle Sanniec, GC
P - Reggie Anthony, GC


Offensive POY - Ryan Maiuri, LC. I gotta hand it to your son Maddog, he's the only player in the IBC who can beat you with his arm or his feet at any moment.

Defensive POY - David Benton, LC. This guy is an animal. I remember the one game where he outran his own cornerback to tackle the runner. Outrageous strength, speed, and ability. Not to mention he's smart on the field, noted by him staying home on a screen play to intercept the pass and return it for a touchdown.


Gotta give props to Greenville, though. They've got the defense and special teams to compete for sure.

It was a great year in the IBC. Best of luck especially to CURF and to our playoff representative Lakeland.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 08, 2005, 05:40:05 PM
big uns,

For your DB's   Jerral Davidson is not from GV.  I'm not sure who he plays for but its not Greenville.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 08, 2005, 06:26:06 PM
Quote from: d3ftball1 on November 08, 2005, 05:40:05 PM
big uns,

For your DB's   Jerral Davidson is not from GV.  I'm not sure who he plays for but its not Greenville.

  Jerral Davidson plays for Aurora. On the IFBC
  stat site, it shows him tied for 22nd in tackles.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 08, 2005, 06:55:23 PM
Im not gonna go position for position bc I dont know everyone's names correctly.   Players who stood out in my mind .  The DE from Conc Wis #92 was a beast.  Very underrated was the corner from Lakeland.  I havent seen much talk of him but he played me the hardest this yr I thought as well as the best out of every team.  Tate from AU is a good ball player.  That Harriel kid from GRNV  has great game speed and gets to the ball.  Offensively I won't say much.  The QB from Lakeland was good and who hasnt gotten any credit was the tall kid from GRNV.  He might not have numbers but he threw a real nice ball.  Mills is hands down one of best RB's.  FB I have to say you have to give some credit to BU's Ben James.  The kid had a nice season and Im sure there are a few safeties who had his footprints on their chest but I wont name anyone.  He also had a few 100 yd games at FB.  QB for BU had a decent yr and will improve alot this off season Id look out for him.  As far as O line, Curf's O line was not terrible, actually effective at times and their QB has always been an athlete.  BU's O line, 4soph and 1Frosh did have a good job moving when the running game was working.  I cant name everyone but this yr was my fav yr as a IBFC football player and I hope next yr it continues.  Im sure I left a few out and as I go on Ill name more.  also, DE Henry Barton from BU was a good playmaker.  The whole BU defense for that matter improved greatly and had it not been for 3 IBFC games to start(Carthage, North Central, and Elmhurst), BU's stats as far as in the IBFC totals for the yr would be alot betta, but thats still no excuse.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 08, 2005, 08:28:32 PM
 I think this is kinda how it plays out this year in the overall look of things. What you guys think?                     
       
Offensive Overall- #1 Lakeland, #2 CUW, #3-GC, #4-AU
Defensive Overall- #1 Greenville, #2 LC, #3 CUW, #4 MAC

Best O-Line: #1-CUW, #2-LC, #3-GC, #4-AU, #5-BEN
Best D-Line: #1-GC, #2 LC, #CUW, #4 AU,



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 09, 2005, 01:17:49 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on November 08, 2005, 08:28:32 PM
I think this is kinda how it plays out this year in the overall look of things. What you guys think?                     
       
Offensive Overall- #1 Lakeland, #2 CUW, #3-GC, #4-AU
Defensive Overall- #1 Greenville, #2 LC, #3 CUW, #4 MAC

Best O-Line: #1-CUW, #2-LC, #3-GC, #4-AU, #5-BEN
Best D-Line: #1-GC, #2 LC, #CUW, #4 AU,


I dunno, I didn't get to see GC this year, but I'd still go with Lakeland's D-line over GC's

Yeah I'm a little biased being from LC... I wish i could have been at the game with greenville... i was only like 2 hours away in meetings all weekend. I would have been able to make a better judgment, so I'm just going from what I saw.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 09, 2005, 05:31:47 AM
Everyone you guys are true fans of the game. excellent choices, Big Uns, did you see my sheet you have alot of my picks on this site as do others. Forgive me but the"ALL MADDOG TEAM" HAS TO BE POST PONED FOR A FEW DAYS. Something has come up and will take my time away.  There were so many standout this year from ALL team, I just don't want to leave anyone who is deserving out. Again thanks for your selections, Will make for a good team. Could you fans send me the school addresses on my personal e-mail, I have something for the "ALL MADDOG TEAM" selecties.  Again thanks for an exciting year in the IBFC, you guys are great. 'GO MUSKIES'
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2005, 07:26:26 AM
  Selections for this week-ends games (Nov 12th)
   (1)  Aurora vs Valparaiso....... Valparaiso
    (2) Eureka vs Chicago...........Chicago
    (3) Wash U vs Greenville......  Wash U
    (4) Mac vs Blackburn............ MacMurray
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 09, 2005, 07:59:04 AM
Maddog

Your email is hidden so I don't know how to send you the school address. If you go to www.illinibadger.org under teams they have all the school addresses and web pages. Thats really nice of you to get something for all your selections! Good Luck in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 09, 2005, 08:24:47 AM
maiurimartin@yahoo.com  to send info to MADDOG
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2005, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: uamusme on November 09, 2005, 01:17:49 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on November 08, 2005, 08:28:32 PM
I think this is kinda how it plays out this year in the overall look of things. What you guys think?                     
       
Offensive Overall- #1 Lakeland, #2 CUW, #3-GC, #4-AU

Defensive Overall- #1 Greenville, #2 LC, #3 CUW, #4 MAC

Best O-Line: #1-CUW, #2-LC, #3-GC, #4-AU, #5-BEN
Best D-Line: #1-GC, #2 LC, #CUW, #4 AU,


I dunno, I didn't get to see GC this year, but I'd still go with Lakeland's D-line over GC's

Yeah I'm a little biased being from LC... I wish i could have been at the game with greenville... i was only like 2 hours away in meetings all weekend. I would have been able to make a better judgment, so I'm just going from what I saw.


 
Guys, why guess? The IBFC site has all the information  there for ya.
   In some areas you will be surprised  who`s were.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 09, 2005, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 08, 2005, 06:26:06 PM
Quote from: d3ftball1 on November 08, 2005, 05:40:05 PM
big uns,

For your DB's   Jerral Davidson is not from GV.  I'm not sure who he plays for but its not Greenville.

  Jerral Davidson plays for Aurora. On the IFBC
  stat site, it shows him tied for 22nd in tackles.

Yeah my bad. I knew that too. He may not have the tackles but he's got shut down potential and was the lone bright spot of that AU/LC game with an interception. Without a couple of his plays things could've been even worse for AU that day.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 09, 2005, 10:51:12 AM
Gomer-

A agree with 2 of your picks - MAC & Eureka

However....
AU over Valpo
GRN over Wash U

A nice end to the IBFC season. Valpo is playing D4 ball with mostly Freshmen - GRN is going to prove that they are going to be the team to beat in 2006. 

That said I can't believe the season is over. As for the "Board" it started off a little tentative this yr. with Pongo and his ugly stepbrother D3Somebody but then matured into a interesting discussion on FB.

Maddog gets my vote for Poster of the Year. He encouraged a lot of good discussion from 1st time posters.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2005, 12:49:06 PM
aufb05: other "guesses" are more than welcomed.
   Course late saturday or early sunday morning we`ll know for sure who did what.
  If you hear something ref games scores...........post it...... or anybody else for that matter.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400 on November 09, 2005, 01:47:33 PM
OK I AM NEW TO THIS BUT I HAD TO SIGN UP WHEN DEANCOOPER POSTED ALL THAT STUFF ABOUT THE FOOTBALL TEAM OVER IN RIVER FOREST. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHOEVER IT IS THAT POSTED THAT KNOWS ALOT OF DETAILS ABOUT THE SCHOOL AND MORE SO ABOUT DEAN HYNES. WHO WOULD KNOW HOW MANY TIMES HE WAS ASKED TO BE THE COACH AT CURF. I REALLY DONT WANT TO THINK IT WAS THE DEAM HIMSELF. LETS FACE IT HE IS THE DEAN OF STUDENTS AND SHOULD NOT WORRY HIMSELF ABOUT A WEBSITE. NOW THAT CONCORDIA HAS ANOTHER COACH IN AS MANY YEARS IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO KNOW WHO GETS HIRED. I ALSO WONDER IF THE SEINORS TO BE WILL BE INVOLVED LIKE THEY DID WHEN J. HYNES WAS HIRED IN 2003. I BELEIVE THAT THE SCHOOL DOES NOT CARE FOR FOOTBALL AND IT IS A SHAME THAT EVERYSCHOOL IN THE CONFRENCE IS BETTER BUT WE ARE WORSE. IT SEEMS THAT THE WAY THE SCHOOL SHOWS IT CARES IS THAT EVERY FEW YEARS IT FIRES COACHES AND CLAMS THAT THIS A NEW BEGINNING AND THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. WELL LETS HOPE SOMEONE UP THERE MEANS IT THIS TIME. A SCHOOL LIKE CUW IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE PLOWS A TEAM WITH RICH RECRUTING LIKE CURF EVERY YEAR.  THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE AND YEAR TO YEAR COACHES DONT GET THAT DONE. LOYALTY IS SOMETHING NOT FOUND AT THIS SCHOOL. PLAYERS NEED TO BE SHOWN THAT THERE IS A REASON TO COME AND STAY AT THIS SCHOOL. WITH NEW FACES IN THE HOUSE EVERY YEAR THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

WAKE UP CURF!!.... IT IS TIME TO CARE!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 09, 2005, 02:51:03 PM
I gotta say I lost respect for EC this weekend.  I thought it was admirable of them to show up every week even when the odds were stacked against them.  But to cancel the game at half was pretty rediculous.  It ruined a lot of seniors last game.  That was not the way you want your last game to go, to not even get the chance to knowingly walk of the field for the last time and get the ovation you deserve for all the hard work and dedication you have put in. 

The refs were over heard telling CUW's head coach that even if the lightening delay were up EC's players were not going to return to the field.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 09, 2005, 03:50:02 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on November 09, 2005, 02:51:03 PM
I gotta say I lost respect for EC this weekend.  I thought it was admirable of them to show up every week even when the odds were stacked against them.  But to cancel the game at half was pretty rediculous.  It ruined a lot of seniors last game.  That was not the way you want your last game to go, to not even get the chance to knowingly walk of the field for the last time and get the ovation you deserve for all the hard work and dedication you have put in. 

The refs were over heard telling CUW's head coach that even if the lightening delay were up EC's players were not going to return to the field.


Whoa, i think this is the first time we've heard of this

anyone care to elaborate more?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 09, 2005, 03:58:11 PM
The Eurkea CUW game was called at half-time because of lighting. It was also made known that Eureka did not want to come out after the half already.  CUW scored everytime they had the ball.  The CUW's coach was not going to throw the ball anymore and actually was heard telling the punt return unit not to block the punt. 
The first series in the second half the seniors that start were gonna get pulled during a time out.  Then a lot of the guys that don't get a chance to play were going in.  A lot of parents were upset because it was going to be their kids chance to play.  I believe #9 actually walked off the field to the locker room after a TD. ( I am not totally sure it was #9) It was a bad situation for Eureka coaches. But, it does suck for a lot of young players wanting to get in and the seniors who wanted their last moment.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 09, 2005, 05:11:47 PM
to 7400-

Obviously you don't know much about what is going on here at CURF with the football program (or you could possibly find out soon what is going on).  If you haven't figured it out yet, I am affiliated with CURF in one way or another, just common sense on that one. 

Anyhow, here is the REAL deal.  The head coach and 2 other assistan coaches (plus the athletic director) were fired because the school wanted somone in there that could recruit players (there were other reasons, but this was a main one), and keep current ones from leaving.  Recruiting from the Lutheran school system is a HUGE part in getting quality players to play here.  I went to a Lutheran High school and many of my classmates went to the Concordias.  There are awesome athletes in the Lutheran school system, but Conwell never really attempted to recruit from there.  The problem was that he would try to recruit the top players in 4A, 5A, and the 6A schools.  It doesn't work that way when they are headed to the big D-I schools.  CURF and other small universities need to recruit from the small 1A, 2A, and 3A schools, and get good players from there.  No all conference player for a huge high school is going to come to a small private university, (or at least it's not likely).

Football is the biggest sport at most schools, and CURF didn't think that Conwell would bring them into the right direction that they wanted to be recruitment wise.  The administration wants us to win, and to be successful.  So saying the school doesn't care about the football team is completely rediculious and 100% untrue.  They care the most about the football team, and want someone who can get them to the next level.  The basketball, baseball, and soccer teams have all done a great job of recruiting, and the administration wants the football team to do the same, and they didn't think Conwell and the other coaches could deliver what they wanted. 

Sure, it's the 4th coach in 5 years.  They want to sign the next one to a multi year contract and get this thing going.  Look for a new coach as early as January, or possibly sooner.  The new football coach is a top priority for the admin.

and 7400, I know you have connections to CURF, probably go there, and possibly a player on the team.  You will find out what is going on soon enough.

And next time, don't type in all caps.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 09, 2005, 05:35:37 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 09, 2005, 10:51:12 AM
As for the "Board" it started off a little tentative this yr. with Pongo and his ugly stepbrother D3Somebody but then matured into a interesting discussion on FB.

That gets my vote for funniest post of the year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: curfgod on November 09, 2005, 06:08:56 PM
Here is the real story behind CURF.  Coach Conwell was the best recruiter the football prgram has had in a long time.  He recruited MOST of the football players at CURF, even when Dean Hynes was the head coach.  Coach Conwell was not able to recruit this past season because he was in the hospital for 6 weeks with cancer.  After almost losing this battle he came back to work instead of taking a leave of absence which he should have done.  But out of loyalty to his players and CURF he fought through his illness (which he still has) to return to CURF in April.  While he was gone there were no coaches on the staff to recruit.  He put his staff together and they brought in some decent freshmen players.  Dean Hynes, who is not a nice man, never cared about our program, was only concerned with self promotion, told us Coach Conwell was his guy.  How can you let your "guy" go after he is only on the job for 16 months, and has cancer.  Coach Conwell will be missed.  He is a good football coach that cared about his players.  Dean Hynes is a bad guy that will pass the buck and make excuses.  He ruined our program, not Coach Conwell.  I hope Dean Hynes feels like a hypocrite.  He certainly is not a Christian.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 09, 2005, 07:35:18 PM
I dont know what happened at CURF, but I personally know coach conwell and know that he is a class A act. It is unfortunate to see that someone of his caliber is not allowed to persue his passion and it is also unfortunate that he was given the ax coming off of something as serious as cancer. Concordia has never been a tradition rich school, but he would have been the guy to add tradition there had he been given another year or two! Shame on CURF, you let a good one go for very poor reasons! ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on November 09, 2005, 09:26:49 PM
No good for Eureka to not play, same situation for BU twice this year and both games were finished including the last game of the year against CURF which meant nothing except to the players and fans. Its a shame that some players last game of their life was cut short like that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 09, 2005, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: footballfan05 on November 09, 2005, 09:26:49 PM
No good for Eureka to not play, same situation for BU twice this year and both games were finished including the last game of the year against CURF which meant nothing except to the players and fans. Its a shame that some players last game of their life was cut short like that.

I dunno, if I were playing for Eureka, i might have like rebelled and tried to get other players to follow and play no matter what, especially if I were a senior...

Now that being said, did any seniors try and protest the decsion by the coaches?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 09, 2005, 09:51:09 PM
IF the Eureka-CUW game really ended the way it is alleged, shame on Eureka!  The coaches would deserve to be summarily fired, a formal apology tendered to all players who WOULD have seen action in the second half, and, assuming admission was charged, a full refund given to every spectator!

You DO not simply quit at halftime!  IF CUW had run up the score in the second half (but it sounds like they had no intention of doing so) then the shame would be on THEM, not Eureka!  This way, the shame is entirely Eureka's.

Perhaps the coaches could have agreed with a common hs rule for blow-outs - just keep the clock running, regardless of out-of-bounds, penalties, etc.  But QUITTING?  That is disgusting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 09, 2005, 11:44:04 PM
I agree, so what if you have the reputation of being a losing team. Now Eureka went and tarnished the whole program as quitters.

The record defeat for all of college football is a 222-0 win by Georgia Tech over Cumberland if I remember correctly.

Maybe it's just me, but in my mind, this doesn't even compare to the embarrassment suffered when you walk out of the middle of a game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 10, 2005, 12:03:24 AM
Does anyone know anything bout Wash U. I went to their post page in the University Athletic Confm but all that page was talkin about was music and the band battles at the games or something. Nothin about football.
I think GC will beat Wash U this Saturday. Wash U reciever is going for that 82 yards for that big record (4 consecutive years with 1,000+ yards). But we have Mark Schopp and they should really match up well. I just think GC defense will stop Wash U. Plus Wash U more than likely expects the Greenville Panthers from last year. Good luck to all the teams this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sica-sica on November 10, 2005, 12:31:04 AM
baseman201,
                     what about all the 7a and 8a school. plenty more players to choose from than the small luthern schools.with all the good high school players in the chicagoland area,there is no reason they can`t recruit alot of them.there are plenty of good high school players that would go there if the recruiting was done right.look at all the other local college`s football programs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fball fan on November 10, 2005, 12:49:44 AM
Ok, this is the first time i have ever typed on this message board. I play for the Eureka College Red Devils. i visit this site from time to time to listen to what people are saying around the conference. Lets get one thing straight Eureka was ready and willing to come out of that locker room. People are on here writing some B.S. and i couldn't believe my eyes as i read some of these posts. We the players were told that after a lighting strike, the teams must wait 30 minutes before resuming play. We were also told it gets dark at CUW's field at 4:30. I left the game field at 4:10 and there was still lighting. We waited with pads on for fifteen minutes to resume play before being told the game was being cancelled. As for number #9. He is a great kid and a great FRESHMAN player. He had a dispute with a coach and was asked to leave the field.
We came to that game with 32 healthy bodies (or at least able to play) and we would have finished the game with 11 players if we had to. This team was put in a hard situation, losing a coach half way through the summer, and having about a dozen quality players quit because of it. However, by an act of God we hired one of the best coaches i have ever had the honor of playing for. And i have never been more proud to be a part of a TEAM, than i am of this one. So before passing judgement and calling us quitters, take a walk in our shoes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: curfalum on November 10, 2005, 12:52:22 AM
It seems like all of the people posting info about CURF know a bit about what is happening over there.  The story as I know it is that Hynes was hired and after one season, didnt want anything to do with the challenge of turning around the football program.  After a failed attempt at landing the athletic director position, he managed to get the job of Dean of Students (a strange promotion for a head football coach).  In the meantime, he failed to recruit for that upcoming season and left the brunt of it on his assistants at the time, Conwell and Smith. Coach Conwell took over the program and after a bad season attempted to hire his own coaching staff.  The administration would not let him hire his own staff and he settled for two coaches that were approved by the administration (finally hired in July).  The staff managed to do a decent job bringing in 20-25 players starting the recruiting process in late April.  The administration had the option of hiring the staff in December but balked on the opportunity.  

To get to the point, Hynes fired the entire staff and the athletic director that beat him out for that position.  How he rose to that status so quickly, to be able to do that is a testimony to his ability to b.s. his way into positions.  He surronds himself with people who are less than intelligent and has found the perfect school that buys into his crap about knowing what he is doing.  The program at Lakeland took a dive when he was in charge, but CURF in all their intelligence has put their faith in him to build their program from a position that he is most comfortable, a position that he can deflect all true responsibity and blame when it is obvious that he dug a bigger hole for the program to climb out of.

How can recruiting be the problem and how can the administration know if  the staff can recruit or not.  Managing to land 20 some players so late indicates that they might be decent recruiters if they had a full recruiting season under their belts.  

The events at CURF are not so surprising and just another big reason why there is no loyalty or support from an alumni base that is dying for something to be excited about and support.  They make it impossible to do that.  Not everyone that has been a part of that program is a hypocrite that hides behind their Lutheran faith.  And to the point of Lutheran recruiting, thats fine but variety and opening the doors to other Christian beliefs is what CURF needs to do in order to be competitive in all phases of the collegiate experience.  They are failing miserably.  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 10, 2005, 05:49:27 AM
TruCountry95 -  on the Wash U website http://www.bearsports.wustl.edu they have 12 pages of game notes with all sorts of stats, preview of the game etc.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 10, 2005, 07:38:09 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on November 10, 2005, 12:03:24 AM
Does anyone know anything bout Wash U. I went to their post page in the University Athletic Confm but all that page was talkin about was music and the band battles at the games or something. Nothin about football.
I think GC will beat Wash U this Saturday. Wash U reciever is going for that 82 yards for that big record (4 consecutive years with 1,000+ yards). But we have Mark Schopp and they should really match up well. I just think GC defense will stop Wash U. Plus Wash U more than likely expects the Greenville Panthers from last year. Good luck to all the teams this week.

  Navigate D3 for all the information you need on Wash U.
    They`ve got an "ok" QB, a weak running game an a good Wr. Well, better than good, as he stands to maybe break a lot of D3 records this saturday.
   Either way he`s had a stellar career at WU.
   If Greenville can shut him down....maybe......
   but i`ll stick with WU.
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 10, 2005, 08:00:02 AM
Quote from: uamusme on November 09, 2005, 03:50:02 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on November 09, 2005, 02:51:03 PM
I gotta say I lost respect for EC this weekend.  I thought it was admirable of them to show up every week even when the odds were stacked against them.  But to cancel the game at half was pretty rediculous.  It ruined a lot of seniors last game.  That was not the way you want your last game to go, to not even get the chance to knowingly walk of the field for the last time and get the ovation you deserve for all the hard work and dedication you have put in. 

The refs were over heard telling CUW's head coach that even if the lightening delay were up EC's players were not going to return to the field.


Whoa, i think this is the first time we've heard of this

anyone care to elaborate more?


  Check out the D3 scoreboard,week 10.
   CW...63   Eureak..0 in the first half!
    Read the "release"  about the game. May help to explain some.
   Most, if not all you guys played ball at a high school some place or another and you know when a storm  with or with out lightning came along the game was stopped,cancealed and in some cases re-scheduled. Looks like that`s what happened here.
  Senior day or what ever aside, safety is always first and foremost.  Does any player want to get zapped by a lightning bolt? I don`t think so.
  Think what you want but IMO, they made the right call.
   Eureka gets to play Chicago this week-end who,
   is the conference leader.  The score could be worse than the CW one if for no other resason than they will play 4 quarters.
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 10, 2005, 08:30:53 AM
Quote from: micro on August 21, 2005, 10:14:14 PM
Hey guys just checking in.....I went out and watched the MAC scrimmage today at Freesen Field.. They are looking better than the 2002 team.. the offense is VERY powerful as always and the defense is magnificant.. The new D-coordinator has put together a "goon" squad!! The best of luck to the highlanders this year... Has anyone else been to watch any other IBFC scrimmages??

  Looking over past comments i saw this and was wondering if MICRO still thought the same thing?
  That Mac team(2002) was un-defeated in conference play, 10-0: First team to do so in school history. Ranked 14 in the nation (D3),
   and got to play Wabash in the NCAA play-offs.
   They got beat but so did Wabash later on.
   This years Mac team came no where near the
    standard set by the 2002 team! IMO.
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: EyeintheSkY05 on November 10, 2005, 11:43:43 AM
Since were talking All-IBFC CUW and Lakeland should basically dominate the first teams I mean from both sides you can basically pick who you want. The positions that mostly stand out are the lines CUW's Langston and Allen were destroyed people all year on the D-Line and their O-Line the Left side of the line was tremendous every game I went to when it went to the left side you can bet on at least five yards they had John Mask who is now a 3 year starter always steady and I think a transfer kid who is pretty good Bailey I think his name is. Lakeland's D-Line was very physical thanks to Benton and Zeck and O-Line looked ok at time their QB made them look better than they were they barely could run the ball.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 10, 2005, 12:45:11 PM
I agree that safety is first and formost.  The thing is the head ref was HEARD telling CUW head coach that even if the delay was up EC was not planning on coming back out.

I know EC has been through a lot and that is why I always had a great respect for the guys on that team, playing for the true love of the game.  Yet we need to remember that CURF has had even more problems and have never done anything like this.  I also know that we sat in the locker room for 10-15 minutes before coach Gabe came in and told us the game was finished because of lightening.

I hope I am wrong about EC and good luck to them in their last game; something CUW seniors did not get.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 10, 2005, 02:02:10 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 10, 2005, 08:00:02 AM

  Check out the D3 scoreboard,week 10.
   CW...63   Eureak..0 in the first half!
    Read the "release"  about the game. May help to explain some.
   Most, if not all you guys played ball at a high school some place or another and you know when a storm  with or with out lightning came along the game was stopped,cancealed and in some cases re-scheduled. Looks like that`s what happened here.
  Senior day or what ever aside, safety is always first and foremost.  Does any player want to get zapped by a lightning bolt? I don`t think so.
  Think what you want but IMO, they made the right call.
   Eureka gets to play Chicago this week-end who,
   is the conference leader.  The score could be worse than the CW one if for no other resason than they will play 4 quarters.


Yeah I have no problems with a game being cancelled for safety. From the comments that were posted it sounded like it was a coaches call...

That being said... all I wanted to find out was if the game was cancelled for some other reason, what was the players reactions. Since apparently it was  genuine concern for safety, I have no qualms with it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on November 10, 2005, 04:20:06 PM
Big uns I think your trashing of Pongo was pretty stupid.  The only funny posts are about teams walking off the field and quitting, check that, sad posts.  I would like to know how many times that has happened in d3 (along with the non-conference record of the IBFC, still waiting on that one).  The fact is that this conference shouldn't even have a message board.  When your #1 team  loses by 60+ to anyone it's a nonpoint.  Don't give me that UW crap either.  They pool their players just like anyone else.  It doesn't matter about Lutheran, Catholic or whatever other stuff you want to put in there.  The fact of the matter is that it is the schools fault.  I don't blame the players.  There is no reason that schools like CURF and Ben should not have good teams.  If they just recruited from the area they would be doing pretty damn good.  I think it will be great when this conference parts its ways because then recruits will not make their decisions based on the past records and will look to be part of something new.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 10, 2005, 07:04:29 PM
I just thought that the "ugly stepbrother" comment was funny. I apologize. I'll never have a sense of humor again.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 10, 2005, 11:51:31 PM
Congrats to Lakeland for being ranked 10th in the NCAA North Region ratings this week - always good to see an IBFC club get some additional recognition. d3fb.com speculation has LC playing at Wabash in the playoff opener - time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 11, 2005, 08:12:50 AM
Quote from: fishguy on November 10, 2005, 11:51:31 PM
Congrats to Lakeland for being ranked 10th in the NCAA North Region ratings this week - always good to see an IBFC club get some additional recognition. d3fb.com speculation has LC playing at Wabash in the playoff opener - time will tell.

  Nice to see that LC got some props from in the NCAA N-R ratings.
  Just checked the D3 Top 25 and LC is no where in site. Not in the Top 25 or the "also rans".
  As  that site is voted on by a panel of 25 coaches, SID`s and media members is it possible they know something? 
   As far as "speculation" goes about LC playing Wabash which, by the way, is ranked 19th in the current D3 Top 25, i`d say they would have a very tough time of it. 
  I know were`re dealing with "speculation" here
  so lets wait till they announce who plays who then we can debate the merits of that  pairing.
   Not being a "Homer" my comments will be un-biased and fact related. 
   Every year the conference Champs have an opportunity to set a standard by which all others
   will be judged and that is ......win an NCAA play-off game. When the "pairings" are announed i think we`ll have a better idea about this year. IMO.
   
   

   

     
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 11, 2005, 11:16:23 AM
Everyone sorry about the delay the 3rd and 2nd teams will be posted on this site Sat 11-12 and the "all maddog team 1st team WILL BE POSTED BY WED 11-16, in addition the MADDOG PLAYER of the YEAR will also be posted AND WHY HE IS THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I have narrowed that down to 3 players at this time from the list I came out with a week ago. (Stats, Leadership, Courage and GUTS). are what have determined this Athlete for this Award. To most this is probable a joke but to me I take pride in doing this, not because I have the time or money (because I don't have either) for the awards BUT FOR THE PLAYERS AND THERE EFFORT THRU THE SEASON, that and only that is why I am doing this. I you all want I will continue next year, but you decide fans, and PLAYERS. You will hear from me on Sat. "GO MUSKIES"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 11, 2005, 11:24:29 AM
Ok, now on a lighter side of things, but a semi serious question too.

What should the new conference be called?

Illini-Badger-Hawkeye?

Illinois-Wisconsin-Iowa Athletic Conference?

Mostly Religious Schools Conference?

Plus, how do you think the adding of Maranatha Baptist, Wisconsin Lutheran and Rockford will change the dynamics of the football side of the new conference?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 11, 2005, 12:31:29 PM
Quote from: uamusme on November 11, 2005, 11:24:29 AM
Ok, now on a lighter side of things, but a semi serious question too.

What should the new conference be called?

Illini-Badger-Hawkeye?

Illinois-Wisconsin-Iowa Athletic Conference?

Mostly Religious Schools Conference?

Plus, how do you think the adding of Maranatha Baptist, Wisconsin Lutheran and Rockford will change the dynamics of the football side of the new conference?

Your last question. The only team with a winning record is Rockford, 7-3.
  The other two, M-B and W-L are 5-13 combined.
   With W-L having (1) more game to play.
  I`m not sure who is (maybe) leaving the IBFC but at first glance it looks like.........Tit for tat. IMO.
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: wlcalum on November 11, 2005, 02:09:31 PM
I like the name "MRAC" :-\ I know one thing for sure. You all will enjoy playing on Wisconsin Lutherans field turf, it is like playing on a sponge. WLC will also enjoy not having to travel for 8 hours and get beat on by the tough Michigan teams. The new conference should help WLC with the recruiting aspect as they will recieve more local area press coverage instead of just Michigan news coverage. Look for this young program to be in the mix of things in a couple years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Warrior_Fish on November 11, 2005, 05:14:05 PM
The New Conference has a name.  It is not announced what it is yet, but one does exist. 

http://www.lakeland.edu/Athletics/playoffs/

Check the site for info on the playoff announcements on Sunday. 

Lakeland looks to draw a first round opponent that would be a winnable game. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 11, 2005, 11:44:24 PM
Ok, speaking of the regional rankings..

Could someone explain how the Lakeland - Whitewater game counts as in region? Same with Concordia and Oshkosh? Is it because we have conferences in the same state?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 12, 2005, 12:15:15 AM
Starting a couple of years ago, schools within 200 miles are in-region, even if they are otherwise different regions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2005, 12:19:05 AM
Quote from: warrior_fish on November 11, 2005, 05:14:05 PM
Check the site for info on the playoff announcements on Sunday. 

Check this site for playoff announcements on Sunday. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 12, 2005, 03:07:59 PM
The 2005 ALL MADDOG 2ND AND 3RD TEAMS
Offense 3rd TEAM
QB----------------------Andrew Hornung-----------AU
RB----------------------Shaun Lee-------------------LC
RB----------------------Ben James-------------------BU
FB----------------------Nick Paxon-------------------AU
WR---------------------Joe sergo--------------------BU
WR---------------------Bryson Taylor---------------GC
WR---------------------Joe Fish----------------------EC
WR---------------------Ryan Eberthart-------------MC
OL----------------Greenville OL Unit---------------GC

PUNTER----------------Billy Hughes----------------LC

KICKER-----------------Dan Luccechessi----------LC

(could someone send me there names all 5 Lineman from Greenville)

(Defense will be tomorrow for both units)


2ND TEAM ALL MADDOG UNIT
QB---------------------SHAUN MANNING-------------EC
RB---------------------BRANDON ERDMAN-----------LC
RB---------------------TONY FONTANA----------------CI
FB---------------------TRAVIS GERVAIS---------------LC
WR--------------------JON COLLIER-------------------CW
WR--------------------NICK EASLEY-------------------EC
WR-------------------JON DeJULIO--------------------GC
WR-------------------ERIC ROYAL---------------------LC
OL--------------------JOSH KRATZ---------------------CW
OL--------------------JOE PUHL------------------------LC
OL--------------------ANDREW DAVENPORT----------CW
OL--------------------RYAN HOLM----------------------LC
OL--------------------CHRIS BURDICK-----------------LC

PUNTER-------------TREY SENNEY--------------------CW

KICKER-------------KYLE MAI--------------------------CW

(Defense and KR 2nd and 3rd tomorrow)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 12, 2005, 03:55:22 PM
 D3 Scoreboard:
   At the half............Greenville 24.    Wash U.....14
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: thekid on November 12, 2005, 05:08:33 PM
Go Greenville, get the IBFC another Non-Conference WIN!

Any news about the Aurora/Valpo Game?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 12, 2005, 06:20:10 PM
Final from Greenville - Wash U 42 - G.C. 24
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 12, 2005, 10:24:57 PM
Josh Kratz of Concorida has not played all season.  To make the all maddog second team is a credit to his amazing looks.  Maddog quickly save the teams credibility
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 13, 2005, 01:02:43 AM
Maddog here is the Greenville's OL.
Greenville does alot of changes for OL for different games but this is it I think...

Soph---#50 Trent Dahnke
Senior--#74 Derek Robinson
Junior---#62 Poe Terrance
Soph---#76 Aaron Mingo
Senior---#51 Brett Hankins

Also... Soph---#78 Casey Schwartzlose
           Fresh---#66 Paris Jones

All great student-athletes!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 13, 2005, 04:57:07 AM
to just let everyone know...kratz did not play bc he tore his acl...just wondering how he ended up making the all-maddog list...i probably should give a congrats to lakelands qb i figure his dad will give him the player of the year award...even though i think he is second to manny mills
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: warrior_fish on November 11, 2005, 05:14:05 PM
The New Conference has a name.  It is not announced what it is yet, but one does exist. 

http://www.lakeland.edu/Athletics/playoffs/

Check the site for info on the playoff announcements on Sunday. 
   
 

Lakeland looks to draw a first round opponent that would be a winnable game. 

   Just looked at the "possible" paring`s on The D3
   site.  The only reason i mention it is because of the above statement. "..............winnable game."
   That site has LC paired with LINFIELD.
   Now i know it`s not offical or anything but you better believe that`s  the last team LC needs to get pared with.
   Tomorrow we`ll all know for sure who plays who
  but if LC does draw LINFIELD,.........Do i hear a fat
   lady singing?
   




   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: thekid on November 13, 2005, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 08:16:27 AM
   
  Now i know it`s not offical or anything but you better believe that`s  the last team LC needs to get pared with.
   


I believe that's the last team anyone wants to be pared with.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 13, 2005, 11:52:07 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 08:16:27 AM

   Tomorrow we`ll all know for sure who plays who
  but if LC does draw LINFIELD,.........Do i hear a fat
   lady singing?
   

Ok, I'll be honest... I don't want that to happen for a selfish reason...

I don't wanna drive that far.

I'm student press... I'll probably go to the game no matter what, just wanna know how far iv'e got to go
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 13, 2005, 12:03:41 PM
If the NCAA really is going to flop regions like that and throw Lakeland in the West, then a smart idea would be to flop Whitewater into the North. Look at it now you have the top three teams (Linfield, Whitewater, St. Johns) in the same bracket. In my mind, to save on travel demands for the schools, you swap UWW into the North and have Lakeland play them again. It would be smarter for two reasons: 1) travel and 2) competitiveness. I say competitiveness because any one of those three schools could be national champions and to have them all in the same bracket is foolish.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 12:20:22 PM
Quote from: uamusme on November 13, 2005, 11:52:07 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 08:16:27 AM

   Tomorrow we`ll all know for sure who plays who
  but if LC does draw LINFIELD,.........Do i hear a fat
   lady singing?
   

Ok, I'll be honest... I don't want that to happen for a selfish reason...

I don't wanna drive that far.

I'm student press... I'll probably go to the game no matter what, just wanna know how far iv'e got to go


  MapQuest: 31 hours drive, plus or minus.
   2110 miles (one way) plus or minus.
   The above is from Sheboygan to McMinnville, Ore.
  All that to hear the "Fat lady" sing?
   Good luck to you and keep your VISA handy.
    Couse if LC doesn`t draw LINFIELD you just saved your self a bunch of money.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 13, 2005, 01:03:07 PM
Maddog-

Appreciate the 3rd Team selection...as a player and hardworker not satisfied.  Anything less than the best is disappointing.  Kindve hard to get the numbers when you  only play receiver for 5 games(three against CCIW top teams) and then run veer option, although i still did okay but not good enough.  Good luck to Lakeland...Everyone have a great off season and we'll see y'all on the field next Sept...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 13, 2005, 01:24:23 PM
Lakeland at Augustana...a little better draw than the Linfields of the world.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 13, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 12:20:22 PM
  All that to hear the "Fat lady" sing?
   Good luck to you and keep your VISA handy.
    Couse if LC doesn`t draw LINFIELD you just saved your self a bunch of money.

The story is not wheter they win or lose, but that it's the first playoff game in the history of the program. Thats why I'm going. Thankfully it's only about 3-4 hours away.

Besides, there is always the possibility for an upset...

That just makes for a better story.  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 13, 2005, 01:57:43 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 12:20:22 PM
  MapQuest: 31 hours drive, plus or minus.
   2110 miles (one way) plus or minus.
   The above is from Sheboygan to McMinnville, Ore.
 

It's almost 3100 from Sheboygan to Mexico and back... Not that it's the same distance, but that only took 47 hours and change...

Yeah... we were bored 2 years ago...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 13, 2005, 02:52:54 PM
usaname:
In those circumstances (1st playoff appearance ever), I'd say it is well worth the 3-4 hour drive ;) as you say!  Hope you have an enjoyable time regardless of the outcome.  DIII playoff time is a fun time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 03:39:30 PM
  LC vs Augustana. 
    A better pairing for LC in that it`s closer.
    Augustana  is ranked 11th as of week 10 in the
   D3 Top 25.
    A look at their stats (AC) shows a strong running game. in fact it only shows a couple of TD`s via the
  air and a ton on the ground.
    I congradulate LC on their championship and their first NCAA play-off game. Now comes the tash of getting the IBFC a win in those play-offs.
  Some really good teams have been there before
  ( Con Wis, Aurora, MacMurray) and have come up empty.
    Winning a P-O-G will put LC and the IBFC on the map so to speak. There`s a lot riding on their shoulders, so again good luck to them.
   That being said, i believe Augustana will prevail.
   Strenght of schedule and their stats bring me to that conclusion.



   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 13, 2005, 04:47:20 PM
My thoughts on the pairing are that Augie has a very very strong running game and almost a non-existent passing game (re: 250 yards on the season) and Lakeland's defense has been more than up-to-the-task of stopping the run in the last few weeks. That being said, it's obvious that Augie's running game is far superior than anyone (maybe even UWW) Lakeland has seen this year.

Augie beat Carthage 7-0 earlier in the season. Remember than Lakeland almost beat Carthage as well, and that was without David Benton or Nick Hunter on defense. With matured freshman and the 4-4 defense Lakeland uses, I expect this to be a very, very close game, much like the Carthage game where defense rules.

Best of luck to LC to bring home that elusive first IBFC playoff victory.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 13, 2005, 06:20:22 PM
I lied, this is my second post in the history of this website.  On the Augustana Lakeland match up this Saturday...I went to the Augie-Wheaton game and was amazed at how massive Wheaton's players were compared to Augie's.  Then a quarter and a half later Augie was spanking Wheaton and their fans wanted to leave(I was sitting on Wheaton's side).  Their running game was overwhelming and I know Lakeland has a very good defense, and for the sake of argument, maybe Lakeland's defense can hold them to 14-21 points.  But, Augies defense is very fast and a bunch of physical SOB's literally, not dirty but just Bad*sses out there.  And there may be no hope for passing for Lakeland because there offense is no North Central which Augie stymied for 17 points.  Their secondary is very, very good.  My score prediction for this game is Augie 38, Lakeland 7.  Augie's Oline goes from this awkward 4-point stance and was driving these massive men off the ball at Wheaton.  It was amazing to watch.  Granted they have no passing game and they will not win the Champtionship because of that, but as for a first round win yes, then I believe they may have to face MT. Union which will be a tall task for sure.  S
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 13, 2005, 06:20:55 PM
Sorry, so i do wish lakeland the best of luck since they are my rep.  but we may have to wait another year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Augie6 on November 13, 2005, 07:24:18 PM
bufan,

Just a little history lesson.  We won 4 straight national championships in the 1980's running the same offense you saw yesterday at Wheaton.  During that time, we averaged about 5 pass attempts per game.  We have run this offense since 1979 when Bob Reade took over the program.  The past few years, the biggest problem with Augie (and the reason the couldn't beat Wheaton and win the CCIW) was an average to below average defense.  The defensive play has improved dramatically this year as you saw yesterday at Wheaton.  That is the primary reason Augie was able to go undefeated through an extremely tough CCIW schedule.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 13, 2005, 09:34:50 PM
Augie is clearly the big favorite here. One interesting point is the Lakeland coaches are all familiar with Augie - their head coach and defensive coordinator were at Millikin and their offensive coordinator was at North Park. Now, that will mean squat if Lakeland's defense cannot stop the run. But the point it, Lakeland's coaches have experienced Augie's running game. Not that it's any surprise - basically Augie says 'Ok, you stopped us once, now try to do it for the whole game.' I think it will be a low scoring, very quick dandy of a game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 13, 2005, 10:42:30 PM
Fishguy:
There are a lot of teams that have seen Augie's offense over the years and havn't faird to well even after knowing what is coming at them.

A couple of quick stats for you:
Augustana has averaged over 26 points each of the last 26 straight seasons and often over 300 yards rushing a game

The Vikings have ranked in the top 10 in rushing according to the latest NCAA Division III statistics for 24 of the last 25 seasons dating back to 1980 (Nationally - #2 in 2000, #1 in 2001, #5 in 2002, #14 in 2003, #4 in 2004)

Before the last game of the season they were ranked 2nd in the nation in running as well.  You are exactly right with your comment you've stopped us once, now do it again. Most teams they have played havn't been able to do that the whole game which is a huge factor come the 4th quarter when players get tired. It should be a good game this weekend, and I look forward to the match up at the Rock.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 13, 2005, 10:43:13 PM
Bufan,

Ok, well, Lakeland is EXTREMELY lucky with the team they have to play.  If Lakeland was paired with Linfield, Mr. Union, Whitewater, St. Johns, etc...then it would have been an ugly game.  

But, back to Bufan, I think 38-7 is a reasonable score, they lose by 25+ points, and I get my free Taco Bell.  Teams out of our conference are just to tough for an IBFC team to have a chance, I am sorry, but it's the truth.  Good luck to Lakeland on sunday, but don't be surprised to see a lopsided score at the end of the game.

I may head on over to Augustana to check out the game on Saturday, it isn't horribly far away from River Forest

Ok fine, I will make the score a little better bufan...

Auguastana - 45
Lakeland - 17


The non-conference foes are just to strong, it's the truth.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 13, 2005, 10:44:31 PM
QuoteOk, well, Lakeland is EXTREMELY lucky with the team they have to play.

Ok, that was a quote from myself.

I take that back, Augustana is a good team, Lakeland isn't lucky
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 14, 2005, 12:48:53 PM
so maddog is the father of Lakeland's QB huh....hmm...very interesting...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 14, 2005, 03:40:10 PM
Baseman201

Quote from: baseman201 on November 13, 2005, 10:43:13 PM
Teams out of our conference are just to tough for an IBFC team to have a chance, I am sorry, but it's the truth.  The non-conference foes are just to strong, it's the truth.

2004 1st round PO - AU v No. 6 Wooster - 4th QTR win by Wooster 41-34. IBFC teams can hang.

Soulsenda-

You must be the only one who didn't know who Maddog is. By the way his son had a hellava season, so did the whole LAKE team for that matter. His son has my vote for Player of the Year. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 14, 2005, 04:10:57 PM
Baseman- unfortunately, you are right the CCIW is too strong for IBFC team this season and several other seasons in the past.

AUFB-  I understand the score was very close against wooster, but you guys had an exceptionally good team last year.  In the two years b4 that mac and conc wis got it handed to them if im not mistaken(in the playoffs).  You guys just had an extremely good team that year, better than those MAC and conc wis teams of 02 and 03.  So in correction to your statement, the IBFC cannot hang, AU 2004 could hang.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on November 14, 2005, 05:50:32 PM
I wish Lakeland the best.  I grew up in Northwest ILL and all I heard about was how great Augie is.  They are far removed from the old days of domination.  They are very battle tested.  But not superhuman.  I just hate the fact they think their s**t doesn't stink and there untruthful recruiting habbits .  I never thought I would say this but, GO FISH.  Maddog, I might see you there.  Can choose between this game or the North Central game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 14, 2005, 06:05:31 PM
Im a cciw guy, but the fact is that I think that Auggie is going to dismantle Lakeland. Auggie has played a helluva tougher schedule than Lakeland and has beaten up those cciw teams pretty well along the way! Who does Lakeland play, Eureka?? CURF?? ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 14, 2005, 06:56:00 PM
Zorbodagreek-

You are right, the reason Lakeland is 8-2 is because they play teams like CURF, BU, and Eureka. 

Does anyone think that Lakeland would be 8-2 in the CCIW??? Aurora???  CUW???  If any "top" team from the IBFC was in another conference, any one of them would be fighting for a 500 season each and every year.  I mean, Augustana had to beat 4 teams in their own conference with winning records, and only lost their first game by one in overtime to a 9-1 non-conference team (Central). 

I think that's why maybe our teams get killed (with exception to the 2004 Aurora team) in the first round of the playoffs.  They are used to beating the crap out of IBFC teams, that they have no idea what to expect from the better schools from the powerhouse conferences. 

Why do you think the IBFC hasn't gotten any respect?  We lose all or most of our non-conference games, then get blown out in the playoffs (with exception again of course to the 2004 Aurora team). 

But whatever, I am heading to the game this Saturday, and am going to enjoy some D-III playoff football.  I am looking forward to see the kind of talent that lies in the big conferences.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 14, 2005, 07:22:52 PM
Baseman201-

AU was a good team last year but they lost to a LAKE team that was not as good as their team this year. That said, I'm not going to predict the outcome against the Augie's but I will say this - Lakeland is going to show in a big way. Win or lose they will make us as proud that they are the IBFC reps. the same as AU did last year. There is something about this LAKE team that makes me think that they might pull this off.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 14, 2005, 07:41:49 PM
My prediction- Auggie 45 - Lakeland 21
Auggie will play its style of football and rush for over 400 yards, as usual. ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 14, 2005, 07:45:05 PM
baseman:
Easy friend!  Your teams got to take the first step and get there first!  Takes along time to get attitudes changed and conference(s) to get competitive.  It can happen, but won't overnight.  Trust me, we (MIAA) know!  Certainly, no one likes playoff blowouts, but I'd be happy just to get there first, then eventually keep working on getting better in successive years.  On the other hand, with the IBC changing, perhaps the various teams, whatever conferences they end up in will get more competitive.  But I know where you're coming from regarding your commentary.  Anyway, good luck this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 14, 2005, 07:49:03 PM
Haha, ok I am sorry, I will take it easy.

here is my prediction again.

Augustana - 45
Lakeland - 17

BUT, if Lakeland does pull this off, you can expect a  big old picture on the front page of D3football.com for sure

Or hopefully
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 14, 2005, 08:30:57 PM
baseman201:

We look forward to seeing you at the game on Saturday. Congrats to Lakeland for their 8-2 season. Atleast they don't have to travel to Linfield! If you're a fan of smashmouth run the ball football watching the Augie offense is a treat.  You think you've stopped the rb and then find out he isn't the one with the ball.  Should be a good game this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: football_is_great on November 14, 2005, 10:31:42 PM
about all the comments that Aurora team that was good last yr. Not questionin if they were good cuz they were. But wasnt it the same muskie team last year as this year that beat them? I think so, so your logic is makin no sense.  Just thought I would throw that in.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 15, 2005, 12:34:03 AM
Ok, while my gut tells me LAKE is going to get blown out, my heart tells me otherwise. (So I'm an optimist... sue me)

I'm not going to predict a score, but I believe that the game will be decided by 1-2 scores.

I don't think Lakeland will be able to stop the run completely, I also don't think the Auggies will be able to account for everyone on the Lakeland offense. This will not be a high scoring game, but it will be fun to watch no matter what.

On another note, I'm looking forward to meeting anyone else that'll be there... I know maddog will be there... anyone else?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: markdamaker40 on November 15, 2005, 01:59:51 AM
Well Lakeland,
It was a nice run but its time to bow down to the CCIW once again.  You think Carthage's Defense was tough wait until Augie just levels you.  They are the top dogs in the CCIW this year.  And you thought you had a rushing attack. HAHAHA have fun stopping the Wing-T.

Go CCIW and Go Augie!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on November 15, 2005, 02:19:16 AM
The wing-t can be stopped with a disciplined d and lakeland did see flashes of the wing t against CUW who does run it very well.  So i dont think the wing t will affect them that much as far as them knowing who has the ball. i think it will be augies physical ability to pound their opponents which will win this game. But i do think that North Central will have a better chance at coming out of this bracket even though augie beat them. Far fetched but wouldnt it be awesome to see a quarterfinal rematch between those 2.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 15, 2005, 07:47:59 AM
footballfan05:

Any offense can be stoped on any given Saturday, but Augie was well over 300+ yards a game on the ground.  They got stopped 1 time this year against Carthage who was a top 3 defense nationally this season. I havn't seen Lakeland play, but I don't think their defense is comparable to a Carthage or Wheaton team that has held Augie in check. As one poster said earlier that they think Augie's rushing attack is even better than UWW, and I'm not saying the score will be exactly like that, but I think Augie will be putting up some big numbers on Lakeland this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 15, 2005, 09:30:01 AM
  Just looked at the D3 Top 25 and no LC.
   They don`t even show up on the "others receiving votes" section . Why is that?
  Just checked the IBFC site. LC is the most penalized team in the conference. Lack of discipline? Coaching? Over zealous play?  What ever the reason, if not corrected, will cost them dearly against The Auggie Boys. You can`t play a better(maybe) team and give anything away.
  I see the Auggie posters are here, kind of like last year when the Wooster-etts invaded the forum.
   Like the Wooster-etts there`re  spouting the
  "company" line about we`re better, blab,blab.
   If they do win, maybe they were better. If they lose, Katty bar the door! Time will tell.
   Waiting for Maddogs.........All Maddog team.
    I have no doubt in my mind that he(Maddog)
    has done his home-work in who he selects.
    That being said i`ve seen some names mentioned who,IMO, have not performed as expected so i hope expectations don`t over shadow performance. Time will tell. 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: football_is_great on November 15, 2005, 09:38:35 AM
There is a reason why UWW is ranked 2nd in the nation, and its not because Augie has a better attack then them. They could throw the ball pretty affective, but running was a challenge. I think this game is gonna be closer than most people think.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 15, 2005, 11:48:08 AM
LC vs.  Augie predictions....

LC wins 21-14
*This win is based on only the presumption that LC has Ditka playing for them.  Ditka single handedly scores 21 pts on offense.  Decides not to be on Kickoff team and Augie returns two to the house with no Ditka on the field.  Now with out Ditka it might be a little closer like this...

Augie 102  LC -11
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on November 15, 2005, 11:51:35 AM
Quote from: augiedogie on November 15, 2005, 07:47:59 AM

Any offense can be stoped on any given Saturday, but Augie was well over 300+ yards a game on the ground.  They got stopped 1 time this year against Carthage who was a top 3 defense nationally this season. I havn't seen Lakeland play, but I don't think their defense is comparable to a Carthage or Wheaton team that has held Augie in check. As one poster said earlier that they think Augie's rushing attack is even better than UWW, and I'm not saying the score will be exactly like that, but I think Augie will be putting up some big numbers on Lakeland this weekend.

Although the score doesn't indicate it, I'd say Wheaton did a fairly decent job stopping Augie.  The final score was 28-7, but one TD was on a blocked punt returned for a TD and another TD was setup by a 70+ interception return to Wheaton's 7 yard line.  Minus those 2 huge plays... it is a 14-7 game.  Augie had 202 yards total offense... well below their 350+ yards rushing.  Take away (I know you can't do that...) Augie's first drive of 83 yards, and they only had 120 yards for the remainder of the game.  Now... I'm not sure Lakeland will have that level of success against Augie, but I'm just pointing out Wheaton did a good job slowing down the Augie rushing juggernaut, along with Carthage.

I mean this as no disrespect to Lakeland, but I see Augie winning this be 2 TD's.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 15, 2005, 12:19:26 PM
GOMER!!!!

For the last time do you know why Lakeland isn't on the top 25 board??? Let me spell it out for you.......b-e-c-a-u-s-e  t-h-e-y  a-r-e-n-t  a  t-o-p  25  t-e-a-m.

I hope that got the point across.  And hey, if Augustana wants to invade this board, more power to them.  They can back up their words with their 9-1 record in one of the top conferences in D-III football.

And yes, they are the post penalized team in the conference, I don't think it has anything to do with coaching, but possibly discipline, maybe they think they are so good they can do stuff like that.  We all saw what happens when someone plays cheap against a powerhouse, they get beat 73-12.  If lakeland wants to play cheap against Augustana..........ouch

Soulsenda -

That Ditka thing was freaking hilarious, you should be a comedian.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 15, 2005, 12:25:57 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 15, 2005, 12:19:26 PM
GOMER!!!!

For the last time do you know why Lakeland isn't on the top 25 board??? Let me spell it out for you.......b-e-c-a-u-s-e  t-h-e-y  a-r-e-n-t  a  t-o-p  25  t-e-a-m.

I hope that got the point across.  And hey, if Augustana wants to invade this board, more power to them.  They can back up their words with their 9-1 record in one of the top conferences in D-III football.    

Baseman,

I applaud you for your brutal honesty!!  For the IBC teams that feel that they get no respect, it's going to take you winning a playoff game to earn some of that.  I'm sure there are quite a few teams that didn't get in that feel that they are better than the IBC representative.  Bottom line is that Lakeland is in and if they can somehow pull off a monumental upset, that will give you some credibility.  With that being said, Augie wins this one by 20!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 01:29:50 PM
Pat I posted the ALL MADDOG TEAM and it told me after 2 hours of typing that the sesson expired.  I lost everything could you retreive it and post it or do I have to do it all over again. Please let me know soon thanks.

Soul Sister Senda what is your point of me being Lakeland's QB dad, if you just learned this then your a day late and dollar short. Again what is your point??


As for Sat game well lets just say the Augies have a few surprises coming to town. Lakeland will be in this game til the end and in the end the best team will prevail. That being said I pick?


As for Kratz making the 3rd team and not playing well lets just say that in the begining I said stats were not everything when making the team. Besides he is from MICHIGAN, and that alone is deserving for me. Besides his school preview for the begining of the season had him listed as a starter.


Pat let me know if you can retrieve it otherwise I will post it tonight in two sessons.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 15, 2005, 01:45:05 PM
baseman201:  Thank you for your overzealous
  response.   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 15, 2005, 01:47:59 PM
haha, no problem

:)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2005, 02:09:02 PM
Maddog,

I don't think I can do anything else, no. When you log in, you might want to check the box that says 'always keep me logged in' or something like that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 02:16:54 PM
Thanks anyway Pat
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 02:23:58 PM
The 2005 'ALL MADDOG DEFENSIVE TEAM'
DB------------------------ROBBIE PERRY-------------------------AU
DB------------------------JERREL DAVIDSON--------------------AU
DB------------------------MARK SCHOPP-------------------------GC
DB------------------------RICK HUTCHINS-----------------------CW
DB------------------------TYRECE
LB-------------------------RYAN VAN DE LOO--------------------LC
LB-------------------------JR. HARRIEL----------------------------GC
LB-------------------------LARRY PIROLLO-----------------------MAC
LB-------------------------SIJI MOORE----------------------------EC
LB-------------------------SCOTT GERHKE------------------------CW
DL------------------------BOBBY LANGSTON---------------------CW---C
DL------------------------WILBUR ALLEN-------------------------CW
DL------------------------DAVID BENTON-------------------------LC----C
DL------------------------NICK ZECK------------------------------LC
DL------------------------JUSTIN ALLEN--------------------------CI

K--------------------------KYLE SANNIEC-------------------------GC

P--------------------------REGGIE ANTHONY---------------------GC

PR-------------------------ERIC BAYERL---------------------------LC

KR-------------------------BRYSON TAYLOR-----------------------GC

DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR--------------------DAVID BENTON---------LC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 02:25:47 PM
sorry that DB without a last name is Tyrece Warner from Lakeland College
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 02:29:55 PM
Offensive team tonight and offensive player of year and also what everyone is waiting for MY PICK for MADDOG PLAYER OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND WHY????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 15, 2005, 02:48:22 PM
base u like that player?  yea I know i know im friggin hilarious!  word word word...

Maddog...G money...what is with the sister comment after soul?  was that an insult?  cmon now  wasnt saying anything bad or good about u being the kids dad.  Its ok.  Ur son plays hard and well and is prolly gonna be ur pick for O playa of the yr which is fine.  It should either be him or Mills, the RB from CW.  Doesnt matter who gets it and u should be gettin angry with a bunch of kids on a website when ur a 50 yr old man who is in a chat room with college kids talking football.   You know better than that.  Anyways as far as the Maddog selections you make they're ok for the most part but also pretty bad in some cases like picking kids who havent even played this yr due to knee injuries.  ANd cmon putting me on third team as WR?  You know better than that.  You know Im one of the top receivers in conference.  Cmon, dont be bashful. 

I hope Lakeland pulls it out this weekend honestly and I would like to see my former QB maine south legend Shawn Kain get far in  the playoffs even if it is only on special teams behind ur son at QB.  he already has a nice fat state ring from our sr yr (state champs '00, quite possibly one of the best state runs in history).  Good luck Muskies.  And for you Maddog Im gonna post the ALL SOULSENDA PLAYCOUSIN team shortly.  We'll see how our picks match up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 15, 2005, 03:19:53 PM
Wow the IBFC bashing is incredible on this board since the Augie folks showed up. Granted, our conferences are no match for each other. The only way to compare these two teams is to look at a team that they both played: Carthage.

Lakeland accumulated MORE yards against that stingy Carthage D than Augie, 200-178, and only gave up 11 more yards to Carthage's offense. Lakeland was without two starters on D that day. Both games were played in Kenosha.

I liked what was said about Lakeland against Concordia. CUW is the best rushing team in the IBFC and probably the closest offensive styled team to Augie, and most agree that the second half of the LC/CUW game was the turning point on defense for Lakeland, who haven't give up more than 80 yards rushing since that game.

Believe me, LC knows what they have to do to beat Augie. This is why I think this will be a lot closer than those CCIW guys would like to think.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on November 15, 2005, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on November 15, 2005, 03:19:53 PM
Wow the IBFC bashing is incredible on this board since the Augie folks showed up.

Not sure I was "bashing" Lakeland.  I gave an opinion, but I don't think I disparaged them.  Do I think the CCIW is significantly stronger than the IBC, yes and there is a lot to validate that thought - all the way from non-conference records, to past playoff success, etc...  Do I think Augie will win?  Yes, but I'm not claiming a 77-12 throttling.

While the only comparison to make is via Carthage, it is difficult to weigh because it took place so early on in the season.  Carthage, while a quality team, did not have the level of year they expected.  Their defense was VERY tough, but their offense struggled most of the year.  The reason Augie was able to run the table on a VERY competitive CCIW schedule (more so than any year I can remember) is that they are equally tough on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 15, 2005, 03:47:26 PM
If Lakeland somehow pulls the upset on Augie, then some people will have a lot of crow to eat! :o :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 15, 2005, 03:51:02 PM
I hope LC is fired up after all the talk Augistana fans have been doing on this board, becuase there is nothing I love to see more than an unbalanced offense flounder due to that very fact.  I enjoy watching teams that can't throw piddle around when they are down by a couple scores.  That should be a lesson to all offensive coordinators.  Sure the sun shines on a dogs ass every once in a while and unbalanced offences win a couple games. But they usually don't fair to well against any good defense.

That is the problem with CUW's offense.  They are built to get through the IBFC teams, which didn't happen this year, but when it comes down to it they can't get past good, disciplined defenses. They have, arguably, the best recieving corps and best backfield, however, when they become one dimensional or only run 3-4 different plays any respectable defense should be able to stop them.

As long as LC plays disciplined, gap control football they will be fine. I played in the game CUW v. LAX which was the 3rd best team in the nation that year and we "hung" untill our punter gave them the ball on the 30 yard line 6 times in the second half.  The point is Aug. is not nearly the team LAX was that year and LC has a good defense.  

LC - 17
AUG - 14    
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 15, 2005, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 15, 2005, 09:30:01 AM
  Just looked at the D3 Top 25 and no LC.
   They don`t even show up on the "others receiving votes" section . Why is that?

Gomer, you say this all the time. No one disputes with you the fact that Lakeland is not ranked and did not get any other votes either.

No one that I have found on this board has said that Lakeland should be ranked or receive any votes. So why post it more than once?

I understand you're trying to be a reality check, but still... it's beating a long dead horse.

If I missed someone saying Lakeland should have gotten votes or be ranked, I apologize in advance.

As everyone knows, rank does not mean really all that much when it comes down to it. If you believe it does, than a win by Auggie by any less than 40 points would be a moral victory for Lakeland.

Hell according to some people on this board scoring at all should be a victory for Lakeland, because we are unranked unvoted for school...

The only way we KNOW who will win, will be about two and a half to three hours after kickoff... That is the only true fact right now
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 04:59:35 PM
Soulsenda, nothing personnal, just thought you were a girl, a person at work her has the name soulcome, soulsenda--soulcome close??  one sends one comes.

Yes Joe you are one of the best receivers but this year there were some standout guys who were deserving. I'm sure you will have the numbers next yr. I hope so because its guys like you that are keeping me watching DIII instead of DII. Best of luck next yr to all.

Let the Augies talk time is winding down fast here. As I said in the past talk is cheap on this or any site. Sat is what counts and Lakeland will be there ready, bank on that. They didn't work this hard to just GET there they did it to WIN.

And Joe I'm 47 not 50 cut me some slack sion
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 15, 2005, 05:05:07 PM
Soul -

Joe Sergo eh, that was a nice little 90 yd return you had against us last Saturday.  Although, we only held you to 1 catch for 7 yards.

And maddog, what will you be wearing on Saturday?  Your sons jersey?  Just want to put a face to a fellow poster.  Although, I havent been really posting great things about Lakeland, but just my opinions.  Love not hate maddog.......love

And to any Augustana students or players.  If I just show up to the game, I will be able to get in right?  I mean, I don't want to drive 2 1/2 hours, show up and find out there isn't any room left in the stadium, or find out we need tickets in advance or something like that.

Alright, I am done
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 15, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
Maddog

I didn't see the 2nd and 3rd Maddog team for defense. Did I somehow miss it?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 15, 2005, 05:11:29 PM
baseman201:

You won't have a problem getting into the game at Augie.  Augie will be on fall break by that time so I don't think the crowd will be too large. The vistor's side doesn't have the largest set of bleachers, but they always allow people to stand anywhere around the stadium. I advise if you have to stand to not stand in the endzone by the scoreboard because that is were a lot of students that might have been thirsty before the game tend to stand. There is normally a shortage of parking around the stadium so just be aware of that as well. Looking forward to a great playoff game this weekend! I don't believe that they will sell tickets in advance, but I know that students will have to pay for the game for a change.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 05:16:26 PM
No I will post that last anted to get the first team out before the IBFC picks.

tonorrow.

Baseman Ya I guess I will wear his old jersey over my carhart gear. I am sure it will be cold, hopefully NOT.  Look for #8, I usually stand in the Endzone by goalpost. or close to them.  Look forward to Sat. should be a good 8 hour drive for the DOG but hey so far this year I have put 14,200 mile on my cars just to see all the muskies games EXCEPT the GREENVILLE one. I had to work.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 05:26:20 PM
Your "2005 ALL MADDOG OFFENSIVE TEAM"
QB------------------------------RYAN MAIURI-----------------------LC---C
RB------------------------------IMMANUEL MILLS------------------CW--C
RB------------------------------PETER EREG------------------------MC
WR-----------------------------TERRY MARTIN---------------------MC
WR-----------------------------McAURTHUR WHITE---------------LC
WR-----------------------------JOE FALLIARD----------------------AU
TE------------------------------JON (HAPPY) GILMORE-------------LC
OL----------------------------- RYAN ROBERS-----------------------CW
OL------------------------------BRYON VANDLEN--------------------LC
OL------------------------------BRIAN EDER--------------------------LC
OL------------------------------NICK DRABECK-----------------------CW
OL------------------------------ANDREW ARGALL--------------------LC

OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR--------RYAN MAIURI---LC

PLAYER OF THE YEAR SOON TO COME AND WHY? AND YES MILLS WOULD HAVE BEEN MY 3RD PICK FOR PLAYER OF THE YEAR. THE MOST OUTSTANDING RUNNING BACK IN THE IBFC HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 15, 2005, 07:05:16 PM
Augie people need to chill a bit. Come the freak down. We know how the IBFC is why come in an keep on saying it. At first I wasn't behind Lakeland because of unsportsmanship game and post-game. But they are representing and I hope they win. It would give IBFC some major needed respect. But good luck to Lakeland.
                              Prediction-----Lakeland 17         Augie 12

                              Prediction-----Ditka 92               Hurricane 3
                               
                   Prediction-----Da' 85 Bears 108        Tsunami+Tornado 6

                         Predicaion-----Ditka 112             Linfield+TEXAS+Colts--7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 07:54:59 PM
 :-XYour 2005 ALL MADDOG PLAYER OF THE YEAR"

THIS PLAYER REALLY DOESN'T NEED A INTRODUCTION BUT BECAUSE OF THE TEAM AND FAMILY HE PLAYS WITH IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHY HE DESERVES THIS AWARD, HIS DEFENSE KEPT THE GAMES CLOSE, HIS OL THE "HOGGS" PROTECTED HIM AND THAT IS WHY RYAN MAIURI QB LAKELAND IS CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. HE TRUELY DOMINATED THE IBFC AND ITS BECAUSE OF THE REASON I STATED AT THE BEGINING OF THE POST. 35 IN NATION IN TOTAL YRDS PER GAME, FIRST IN IBFC, FIRST ON TEAM, 3RD IN RUSHING, PASSING, SCORING IN THE IBFC, FIRST ON TEAM SCORING, PASSING, RUSHING AND TOTAL OFFENSE. OF THE FIELD BIG PLAYER IN THE BIG BROTHER PROGRAM IN SHEBOYGAN COUNTY. 3.6 GRADE POINT. wHEN HE LEFT SAGINAW VALLEY RANKED 6TH IN DII IN THE NATION, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE BUT AFTER IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, HE FOUND A GREAT FAMILY AT LAKELAND. HE WAS NOT SELECTED BECAUSE HE IS MY SON (AS MOST WILL THINK), LOOK AT THE FACTS SURROUNDING HIM AND HIS TEAM. HE IS VERY DESERVING, DAVID BENTON WAS A VERY, VERY VERY CLOSE SECOND AS MILLS WAS.

AS FOR PREDICTIONS LAKELAND 17----AUGIES 14

HAVE A GREAT OFF SEASON AND SEE YOU NEXT YR...


GO MUSLIES,  GO MUSKIES
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 15, 2005, 08:01:44 PM
baseman1-   thanks but we didnt pass the ball but like 6 times, I only touched the ball 4 times man.  One was  a fumble i recovered on punt, another was a 7 yd catch, one was a 90 KOR to the hizzy, and the other was the ganme winning 25 yd scamper into the Endzone.  True I didnt put up numbers this yr but i was fine with that bc we were running the veer game and I was blocking for some horses in the backfield.  We did finish up pretty well in rushing in the conference and when we needed a score I got it for us(9 in last 4 games).  So I am not being cocky or trying to sound like a jag but all that matters is that we played as a team and if I dont get the ball I dont care as long as were doing things successfully.   But I have to say, As much as people talk smack about CURF and even us, those curf boys have alot of heart.  Thats the best ive seen them play in awhile and I think those boys should keep their heads up and keep working.  I think within the next 5-10 yrs they along with BU and GRN  will have the IBFC above many conferences in the US. I also think LC will give AUGIE a game on Sat bc no matter what any team can beat any team on any given day.  thats the beauty of football.  11 guys out there not just one.  all 11 guys from either team can play the best game of their life one either side of the ball and for either team and all 11 guys can play their worst.  U NEVER KNOW!!!  Thats why I love football!  Also, were in a collegiate level so this sint pop warner or high school so there are many more factors than just pure talent and size.  Good luck to LC.

MADDOG-  My main man.  47 isnt old bro.  Im almost there!  jk...good luck to ur son and no im not a girl.  although I have nice boobies.  GO BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 08:06:24 PM
Serg, you have a great future keep working hard you will be successful in the future. besides you are truely a great athlete  the dog
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 15, 2005, 09:06:17 PM
falscbf:

I'm not trying to "bash" your conference. I just wanted to come to this board and talk about the upcoming game. I've never seen Lakeland play, but I doubt they will be up a couple of scores early in the game on Saturday. The Augustana Vikings havn't trailed by more than 7 points in any of their games this season. They only trailed by 7 in a game when they didn't get the ball first.  Even if they were to get down by a couple of scores they still wouldn't pass the ball unless it's the closing minutes of the 4th quarter. They are going to set a new record for least amount of passes thrown all year and least amount of completions as well.  They havn't had the need to pass the ball yet this year even when teams put 10 or all 11 men in the box.  As for your comment about an unbalanced offense winning a couple of games, Augie has put up 27 consecutive winning seasons using the unbalanced attack.  I guess "the sun has been shinning on the dog's ass" for quite some time now.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 15, 2005, 09:24:44 PM
Damn Maddog I thought you were closer to my age - 59!! Ryan should be the IBFC player of the year for a lot more reasons then you listed. Great kid - great team.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 09:28:06 PM
AUBF05 your just young looking I'm old from all the traveling
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 15, 2005, 10:15:34 PM
manny mills is my player of the year...in the CUW Lakeland game both he and the QB from lakeland had bad games but the QB from lakeland had more of a chance to make plays than Mills....Mills did what he could with min. carries...Lakeland won on defense....cuw didnt lose bc mills played bad but lake could have lost bc their qb didnt get them to the endzone without great field position....but i would give my kid props too...so until you give awards that ppl dont have to print out i will wait to see the conference awards....but given what i said idk how the lake QB did against everyone else...i just know mills lead in scoring and rushing and is the best athelete in the IBFC...but you have to get the ball to earn MVP....i do appreciate maddogs work bc he feels legit....kratz got 2nd team on your maddog but tore his acl before game one....and john mask a pre-season all american is over looked i have to question still your list...sergo isnt the best in the conference but did lead WR in tds gotta be a first team selection....maybe not the best WR in the league but still better than LCs WR
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 10:32:03 PM
sorry sil, sorry your not happy but I said that some would be and other won't, again Kratz from MICHIGAN get my pick, Mask was never mentioned on any post only Robers and Drabeck and as for Mills he only had 70 yrds to LC qb 60 and he had less carries than Mills but maybe because he stands up at qb must be why? In addition He did lead Lakeland to there first Td and field position didn't matter BOTTOM LINE he lead his team to VICTORY. no prize for second place sorry sil. As for JOE he is an outstanding receiver but so was White for Lakeland. Alot of great players not all can be first team. So Sorry Sil! maybe next year you will make some selections like I asked people to do. (2) eyes can't see everyone on the OL. I stand by my choice and again NOT because he is my SON he was clearly THE BEST THIS CONFERENCE HAD TO OFFER, AND IT IS BECASUE OF THE HOGGGGGGGGGS LATER SIL PUDDY
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 15, 2005, 10:32:50 PM
I am 23, does that count as old??

Anyhow, Joe I hope you are right about the bright futures for the lower teams in the conference, it would be amazing to see them possibly turning their programs around, especially CURF, BU, and Greenville (who has already started to turns theirs around)

Wow, that was a great game to play in, overtime games are always pretty intense.  You have no idea what it was like to watch you take that back 90 yards for a TD. and also,  I was the one you talked to in the hallway before the game started to tell Platt whats up.

Maddog, I am assuming you went to the CURF Vs. Lakeland game.  I was the one who caught a pass jumping over a defender for CURFs first TD of the game in the corner of the endzone, if you remember at all, it was toward the end of the game I think.  But, that game was so cold, I don't rememeber much more than freezing my ass off anyhow.  And with exception of him being your son, either him or Mills should be the players of the year.  Your son did kick ass this year, and deserves votes for the conference player of the year.  I guess we will see if the conference agrees with you in the next few weeks, or whenever they come out with their selections.


Is D3football.com going to have a preview page for all the games this weekend??

And honestly, good luck to Lakeland this weekend, it would be an amazing win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 10:45:42 PM
Baseman I did go and remember your catch nice job. CURF played like true sportsmen. You could see they would not give up and I personally see CURF improving, they just need a players coach, or at least someone who cares. Rmember I stand in the zone!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 10:48:42 PM
One more thing sorry sil, Mills played 4 quarters a game from what I saw, Ryan played 4 quarters in ONLY 3 GAMEs yet still posted those stats. IN AN AVERAGE OF 2.3 QAUTERS A GAME FOR 10 GAMES. Imagine what his numbers would have been had he played all 4 quarters for 10 games like Mills? again 2.3 quarters for 10 games was the average time on the FIELD for HIM. Unbelievable isn't it!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 16, 2005, 01:13:35 AM
no mills didn't play all over every game....our coach lets young players get time....no one played the second half of eureka and so on....but the two were sure up for player mills is just by far a better athlete
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 16, 2005, 01:55:39 AM
hey whats up base, yea that was a fun friggin game to play in man.  I was gettin kindve mad bc coach wasnt giving me the ball at all til the end of them game but you guys played us harder than Eureka, Mac, and greenville(game whch we would have won if we had a kicker that game and didnt have to go for two)...Anyways good luck to you tell George I said whats up

Sil...How do u know Im not the best receiver in the conf?  Maybe Im not maybe i am.  I havent gotten to play a whole yr at receiver since coming to BU.  Ive played maybe a total of 15 games at receiver in 3 yrs.  I also have had to play HA QB and wing.  Kinda sux but whateva.  Football is football and I love the game and am just happy to be able to be on a field in an organized game.  Also,  I havent had the opp to have a QB or O line until this yr, barely (1st yr QB and 4 soph and one frosh O line).  I should complain but 90 catches and 17 touchdowns in 15 true games at receiver is ok with me.  I just wanna leave BU having it be a spark to the program and the IBFC becoming one of the best conf's in the country.  If i was on a team like Lakeland( like I should have been or Carthage or stayed at IWU)  then I would have been diff.  I really have no idea where I am going with except this.  The IBFC is on its way up.  The facilities are becoming topp notch.   Our stadium Im sure was exciting for everyone who has played on it in 2 yrs to be a blessing.  Go muskies and if u ask me I think there should be a conference champ game (even though we dont have more than 10 teams like SEC or big 12)...I would like to see the top two teams go at it one more time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 16, 2005, 02:42:37 AM
well, sorry you arent the best...but you are very good...try playing at a CUW or the new greenville off.  That would seem much rougher...The thing you have to look at is  who would start for other teams.  I believe you would start over a lot of guys but not all guys...You have been one of the best for two years which is admirable...also a hell of a return guy...not much a qb or hback at least against CUW...its my opinion of what I have seen of your play
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 16, 2005, 08:58:30 AM
Quote from: uamusme on November 15, 2005, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 15, 2005, 09:30:01 AM
  Just looked at the D3 Top 25 and no LC.
   They don`t even show up on the "others receiving votes" section . Why is that?

Gomer, you say this all the time. No one disputes with you the fact that Lakeland is not ranked and did not get any other votes either.

No one that I have found on this board has said that Lakeland should be ranked or receive any votes. So why post it more than once?

I understand you're trying to be a reality check, but still... it's beating a long dead horse.

If I missed someone saying Lakeland should have gotten votes or be ranked, I apologize in advance.

As everyone knows, rank does not mean really all that much when it comes down to it. If you believe it does, than a win by Auggie by any less than 40 points would be a moral victory for Lakeland.

Hell according to some people on this board scoring at all should be a victory for Lakeland, because we are unranked unvoted for school...

The only way we KNOW who will win, will be about two and a half to three hours after kickoff... That is the only true fact right now

  Thanks for your comments. My point is that LC
  is the IBFC Champs and they get no respect. Why is that? All past champs were ranked. Maybe that`s why they(LC) are seeded 6th and Augustana is seeded 3rd. National ranking has a direct bearing on where a team is seeded plus other factors. I`m talking play-off pairings here.
   If you have another plausable answer for  "why" LC is not ranked in D3 and seeded 6th lets hear it.
   So far nobody has answered that question.
   You take me to task for bringing it up but offer no rebuttal to the original question.........WHY are they not ranked?  Is it the conference? The non-winning out side conference play? What? 
   You see it as "beating a long dead horse" I see it as you not having an definitive  answer.
    I`m not trying to bust your chops,  put how bout
your answer as to .......WHY.
   By the way, that question would stand no matter who was in their place.
    The LC...Augustana game could very well be like last years Aurora vs Wooster game.  IMO. Although i`m hoping for a better ending.
 
   
   
   
   
     
   
 
   

     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 16, 2005, 09:22:14 AM
Gomer Pyle:

I think that LC was the 6th seed because of their geographical location and closeness to Augustana. It was a surprise for Augie to find out they were going to play LC instead of Mt. St. Josephs because for the longest time the predictions were that they were going to be the 6th seed and have to travel to Augie.  They matched up 2 Ohio teams and pitted a Wisconsin team vs an IL team.  Now they are only predictions for a reason, but at first glance LC was rumored to play at Linfield and got a better draw as a 6th seed to play Augie.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 16, 2005, 10:24:36 AM
Quote from: augiedogie on November 16, 2005, 09:22:14 AM
Gomer Pyle:

I think that LC was the 6th seed because of their geographical location and closeness to Augustana. It was a surprise for Augie to find out they were going to play LC instead of Mt. St. Josephs because for the longest time the predictions were that they were going to be the 6th seed and have to travel to Augie.  They matched up 2 Ohio teams and pitted a Wisconsin team vs an IL team.  Now they are only predictions for a reason, but at first glance LC was rumored to play at Linfield and got a better draw as a 6th seed to play Augie.

  Thank you for your comments.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 16, 2005, 12:53:03 PM
Augi

My point was that unbalanced teams don't do well when they get tough opponents generally.  CUW has an unblanced offense and has for many years, we have also had a winning record for many years.  Yet when we play good teams and get forced out of our gameplan its trouble.  I never said AUG would be down by a couple of scores and I am certainly not taking anything away from them.  I just hate to watch teams that constantly run the ball.  Its not exciting ( to me at least ), but different strokes for different folks. 

As for the Maddog player of the year being LC's Qb he is a good player however, he only had one scoring drive aginast CUW and that was because a freshman linebacker somehow forgot our man coverage call and decided not to cover his receiver.

Southa don't worry about it I have been overlooked for the Maddog team pretty much every year I think and there is not a player in this conference (and hasn't been for years) that would start over me, and I have performed well against LC every year but like Maddog said he can't see everything.  Thats ok though good luck to Muiari (or however it is spelled) sat I hope he does well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 16, 2005, 01:43:43 PM
Falcon thanks for understanding, I wish I could see and recognize all but I can't if you were overlooked I am truely sorry. You know I started to do this to give more recognition to DIII players but every yr I get trashed for my picks, This yr I asked for fan support to better my selections. Only to get a handfull of participants, and as you can see most of there selections were choosen. Especcially from CUW, I think I put all there selection on the 1st team, and they were very deserving. As for Mills, frankly WHO ever gets the Player of the year is fine with me, he worked very hard from what I seen of him, so did David Benton, Bobby Langston ect. sorry I tried my best. Any way all the right letters just out of line, Maiuri and thanks for your support its been a pleasure to be a part of the IBFC family. Sil honestly I was being very objective on my picks, the thing I learned over the past few yrs though was the Player of the Year usually went to the Conference Champs, as was lloyd last year from the Co-Champs CUW.
GO MUSKIES
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 16, 2005, 02:08:49 PM
Soulsenda-

Who is "pongo" and what was/is his relationship to your team?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 16, 2005, 02:27:11 PM
auFb-

To be honest I dont even know, Im open about who I am and I honestly dont know who he is.  If he comes up to me on campus or messages me Ill tell ya as long as its not anything for the wrong reasons. 

Sil-

I think I would start at any school in the IBFC or DIII for that matter.  In my mind I think I would start at USC.  Now realistically I wouldnt but thats the mentality I have when I play.  In my mind I think Im the best and can anything and more that the guy next to me or in front of me can do.  Now obviously I wouldnt start over anyone at USC or anything that extreme but if you dont have that work ethic or confidence then you will just fall into the crowd of mediocrity.  I dont think Im a "3rd" team all conf guy.  I think I am the best in the conference.  Now i may not have the numbers or might not even be, but I have to approach football in that sense.  Im a sore loser to be honest.   I HATE LOSING.  I hate it so much that when I lose, I will work even harder to not lose again.  I dont care about all that mumbo jumbo about "losing is okay" and "its what you learn" which Has been implemented in some IBFC schools that have sucked over the past few yrs(Us included).   I say **** that.  Play to win not to just play.  And I also say play to be the best no matter what.  When I coach one day I will tell my kids to never accept losing, EVER.  I hate it.  Thats why I want to leave BU next yr leaving a program on the verge of becoming great and I believe they will be.  If I spent as much time typing on here as I did doing my friggin hw id be a str8 A student man. 

IN CLOSING, GO BEARS!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 16, 2005, 03:06:07 PM
falscsfp:

Sorry for misinterpreating your post.  I thought u were talking about the type of offense Augie runs not CUW.  I wish sometimes Augie would be more balanced, but we don't have the weapons to try and do so right now. I still remember in '02 when for one play we came out in a 3 wide formation and it was in the 2nd quarter of the game. It confused everybody on D and unfortunately on O as well and was an imcomplete pass.  Anyways it's playoff time something that can't come soon enough. Good luck to Lakeland this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 16, 2005, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 16, 2005, 08:58:30 AM
  Thanks for your comments. My point is that LC
  is the IBFC Champs and they get no respect. Why is that? All past champs were ranked. Maybe that`s why they(LC) are seeded 6th and Augustana is seeded 3rd. National ranking has a direct bearing on where a team is seeded plus other factors. I`m talking play-off pairings here.
   If you have another plausable answer for  "why" LC is not ranked in D3 and seeded 6th lets hear it.
   So far nobody has answered that question.
   You take me to task for bringing it up but offer no rebuttal to the original question.........WHY are they not ranked?  Is it the conference? The non-winning out side conference play? What? 
   You see it as "beating a long dead horse" I see it as you not having an definitive  answer.
    I`m not trying to bust your chops,  put how bout
your answer as to .......WHY.
   By the way, that question would stand no matter who was in their place.
    The LC...Augustana game could very well be like last years Aurora vs Wooster game.  IMO. Although i`m hoping for a better ending.

Sorry it seems like your last couple of posts like that have been rhetorical in nature.

As for why we aren't ranked or recieving votes whereas the last 3 years we've atleast had some mentioning of our conference in the voting. I don't know, maybe this year noone from our conference is on the voting committee? I know that the Coach from CUW is on the AFCA poll according to their website. Maybe our area of the country... mostly southeastern Wi and northern ILL is over looked, or maybe because we won very few out of conference games. It also doesn't help that Lakeland lost to UW-W by about 60...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 16, 2005, 04:19:16 PM
soulsenda

Your post said "thats why you want to leave BU next year..."where are you going?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 16, 2005, 04:38:18 PM
haha I meant when I leave after im done playing ball... I cant leave here.  I should have never came here to be honest but hey Ive enjoyed it here and the people are good the HOES are cute.  If it were my soph yr I would leave bc we had no coach and not alot of talent or players.  I got one semester of ball left here then Ill go play somewhere else if I get the opp, even if its a senior citezen flag league Ill keep playing til I cant walk.   Im not leaving BU though.  Not unless Lovie Smith calls me up and ask me to return punts bc WADE was blowing it, or the Eagles need me to step in for TO.  Otherwise IM here. 


Good luck muskies!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 16, 2005, 04:38:49 PM
The only basis of my 38-7 prediction for the Augie victory is because I made it a point to see the Augie-Wheaton game and Augie just happened to get matched up with Lakeland.  And as for comparing stats against Carthage, that does not matter to a point.  It doesnt matter because yes it was in the beginning of the year and its all about match-ups.  You cant look at the stats of one game and translate them to another game predicting the outcome.  I cant remember who posted it, but "comparing scores or stats" is not the best way to gauge two teams, thats all.

Good luck to LC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Brick on November 16, 2005, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on November 15, 2005, 07:05:16 PM
Augie people need to chill a bit. Come the freak down. We know how the IBFC is why come in an keep on saying it. At first I wasn't behind Lakeland because of unsportsmanship game and post-game. But they are representing and I hope they win. It would give IBFC some major needed respect. But good luck to Lakeland.
       
Are you saying that it will be easy to get inside of the Lakland Players Heads?????

BLA
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 16, 2005, 04:46:22 PM
Quote from: uamusme on November 16, 2005, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 16, 2005, 08:58:30 AM
  Thanks for your comments. My point is that LC
  is the IBFC Champs and they get no respect. Why is that? All past champs were ranked. Maybe that`s why they(LC) are seeded 6th and Augustana is seeded 3rd. National ranking has a direct bearing on where a team is seeded plus other factors. I`m talking play-off pairings here.
   If you have another plausable answer for  "why" LC is not ranked in D3 and seeded 6th lets hear it.
   So far nobody has answered that question.
   You take me to task for bringing it up but offer no rebuttal to the original question.........WHY are they not ranked?  Is it the conference? The non-winning out side conference play? What? 
   You see it as "beating a long dead horse" I see it as you not having an definitive  answer.
    I`m not trying to bust your chops,  put how bout
your answer as to .......WHY.
   By the way, that question would stand no matter who was in their place.
    The LC...Augustana game could very well be like last years Aurora vs Wooster game.  IMO. Although i`m hoping for a better ending.

Sorry it seems like your last couple of posts like that have been rhetorical in nature.

As for why we aren't ranked or recieving votes whereas the last 3 years we've atleast had some mentioning of our conference in the voting. I don't know, maybe this year noone from our conference is on the voting committee? I know that the Coach from CUW is on the AFCA poll according to their website. Maybe our area of the country... mostly southeastern Wi and northern ILL is over looked, or maybe because we won very few out of conference games. It also doesn't help that Lakeland lost to UW-W by about 60...

  Now your cook-in!    Thanks for the thoughts.
   Plus.............Rhetorical.  Now i know you had to reach down for that. LOL.  Just mess-in with ya.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 16, 2005, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 16, 2005, 04:46:22 PM
   Now your cook-in!    Thanks for the thoughts.
    Plus.............Rhetorical.  Now i know you had to reach down for that. LOL.  Just mess-in with ya.

Nah I'm just your classic smart guy thats really lazy...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 16, 2005, 06:07:33 PM
Just read the picks from this site and the have "THANKS FOR PLAYING AWARD" lAKELAND, My AZZ we come to WIN. Good joke though!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 16, 2005, 06:47:20 PM
I read that too Maddog...

More like "Thanks for the bulletin board material" Award.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 16, 2005, 08:27:54 PM
You guys thought the CCIW posters doubted you?  Take a look at the Around the Nation columns and then see why I said that you guys need to win a playoff game before you will get any respect.  It's not just us doubting you, it's everyone!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 16, 2005, 08:31:16 PM
Has anybody heard any of the All-Conference selections that the coaches selected?  I thought they should be out either yesterday or today
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 16, 2005, 09:13:22 PM
The conference selections were done tonight. should see the postings tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 16, 2005, 09:15:31 PM
I'd tell you who they are but I would rather the coaches of the respective team tell them in person not hearing them on this web site. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 16, 2005, 09:36:21 PM
Maddog - thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 17, 2005, 07:56:44 AM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on November 16, 2005, 08:27:54 PM
You guys thought the CCIW posters doubted you?  Take a look at the Around the Nation columns and then see why I said that you guys need to win a playoff game before you will get any respect.  It's not just us doubting you, it's everyone!

  Just read the write up. If your a LC fan you won`t be happy. 
   Seems like the only way LC and the IBFC will get any respect ....... LC has to beat Augustana.
  Can LC beat Augustana? Certainly.  Will they? 
  Unlikely. 

     
     
   
 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 01:03:29 PM
Gomer I disagree LAKELAND will prevail Sat. Close game but will come out on top. Please afterwards don't tell us good job, because you haven't supported us all year don't start after Sat. you will jinks us

CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR IN THE IBFC

RYAN MAIURI-----------------LAKELAND------------------QB

AS FOR THE REST OF MADDOGS PICK ON HIS ALL MADDOG TEAM I WAS OFF BY ONLY 2 PLAYERS ON MY OFFENSE!!!!!!!!!

IMMANUEL MILLS PLEASE NOTE YOU ARE STILL THE BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE IBFC AND WELL DESERVING OF THAT AND CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR HAD YOU RECEIVED IT. 

WHERE IS SIL-LY----------NOI COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 17, 2005, 01:14:23 PM
Maddog - Congrats to Ryan on his honor - go Muskies, represent the IBFC well!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 01:23:22 PM
I thank you GC-fan for Ryan but he will tell you its the Muskie team AWARD for if not for them he would not be getting this great honor. Go Muskies Sat. don't let the DOG down
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 17, 2005, 02:43:34 PM
 Maddog: Congradulations to your son on a fine season. I know your one proud dad! Great way to end a career.
  As far as being a LC fan....nope. 
  Your comment i took as being smart azz.  My comments are factual (some) and others are just
  my opinions. I guess you didn`t read  Around The Region today. They did not treat LC kindly. Are you going to tell them to back off? There are bigger fish on here(D3) then me so don`t jump on my case.
  Seems like i got your goat cause i`m not a LC fan or was it just my comments? 
  How lame is that? 
   One other thing, win or lose, i will post my thoughts. Civil of course. No jinks after the fact.
   If i`ve mis-interpreted you comments, my apologies.                                 
   

   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 17, 2005, 03:30:00 PM
Where can we find the all conference selections?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on November 17, 2005, 03:44:55 PM
Its about time the CCIW said something and yes soulsenda is the best receiver in the conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on November 17, 2005, 05:19:54 PM
soulsenda,
I played for Coop and Vinny Mac at AU.  Is Vinny Mac still dropping F-bombs all over the place and saying "You can't do that?"  Both are great coaches.  I have no doubt with the facilities and a little institutional support BU will be a winning program very soon.  Being an AU grad, saying that makes me sick to my stomach.  Hopefully with the right personnel BU will get away from the wing-t stuff(Vinny does know his stuff) and give you an opportunity to show cases your skills.  Stay the course and leave BU a better program than it was when you got there.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 05:40:08 PM
Gomer, first thanks for the congrats to Ryan He will gladly except it for his team, Second I am just giving you s---t man, Thats what I dig about you man is your honesty. My point was AFTER we win the IBFC there first playoff game please don't start supporting our ban-wagon. I am superstisious and don't want to be jinks. Keep posting I enjoy your comments and attitude towards this conference and NO I did not read the article.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 17, 2005, 06:39:03 PM
Ok, I'm not at all surprised for the lack of respect for our conference.

Do I think that Lakeland will win this weekend? I don't know. Do I think they have a decent chance of winning? Yes, if they can play 60 minutes of mistake free football. Mistake free means no stupid penalties, no turnovers, no blocked punts or missed PATs... etc.

Is this possible? Yes... Is this probable? Maybe not... we'll find out at about 3pm on Saturday.

Hey I think it would be great if all people going to the game from IBFC schools should wear their team colors in support of the conference... I think that show of solidarity would be great... I know I'll be doing it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on November 17, 2005, 06:54:09 PM
Da One,
   
       Vinny Mac still def. drops "You cant do that?" All the time, i played defense but just listening to him from the other side of the ball was hilariious and he is an excellent coach, as far as cooper i may have not always agreed with him but he has this program going in the right direction and it will be interesting to see the types of recruits he brings in.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 17, 2005, 07:00:18 PM
ok, so through all this playoff talk, I never thought to look at who Lakeland would play if they did actually win (which is unlikely to begin with).

Anyone heard of Mt. Union?

Wow, Mt. Union could have the easiest ride of anyone through the regions
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 17, 2005, 07:16:48 PM
If Lakeland beats Augie this weekend than Mt. Union's road becomes easier, but not by much. If Augie wins as they should, and although Wabash fans won't want to hear this, the Mt. Union/Augie game could become the regional championship. I would not say however that Mt's road is easy. If they win Saturday and then beat the winner of Augie/Lakeland they still have to face either Capital, North Central ( a very powerful 9-1 team) or Wabash in all possiblities. The North region is not the West, but it is still filled with a lot of talented teams. Plus ask anyone from the OAC board this Mt. Union team is very beatable, as ONU proved this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 17, 2005, 07:21:17 PM
HAHA   ...Coach Vinny McMahon is quite possibly the funniest man I have ever played for.  First oif all the man started the yr by calling every play we watched on film an "abortion".  He said I as well as another man on the team were midgets.  We have some classic Vince McMahon stories after only one yr.  He called one kid on our team a P u SS y for running slow.  He drops F bombs like theyre going out of style.  I love the man.  Most of all I love that he drives a a Silver Mitsubishi Eclipse.  Cmon.  The man is 80 yrs old driving a 22 yr old hott girl car.  I think he should be in the college football hall of fame.  Not to mention he has his own friggin book.  Against North Central he told me after the game I played really good and that my 200 yds receiving and two TD's was a class A  performance.  Then in film on Sunday he proceeded to tear into me telling me I was the worst receiver he had ever seen.  I couldnt stop laughing.  The man is amazing and he has already stated that if next yr I can get 15 scores he will run up and down the fied naked.  Now I dont know if Ill get that but Im sure all of u would love to see that...I know I would.  

*T.O.  leaves Eagles and joins the Lakeland Muskies for a one game contract.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 17, 2005, 07:26:46 PM
Quote from: Soulsenda on November 17, 2005, 07:21:17 PM

*T.O.  leaves Eagles and joins the Lakeland Muskies for a one game contract.

No we'd bench him in a heartbeat... Zebrowski has done it in the past... horrible attitude... no play. His philosophy is what is best for the team... it's better for the team to not have a cancer like that playing for you, or even around on your bench.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 17, 2005, 08:24:01 PM
GREENVILLE, Ill. – The Greenville College football program has released honors awarded this fall. The honorees include:

Illini-Badger Football Conference
1st Team
J.R. Harriel – Linebacker
Terrance Poe – Offensive Line
Russell Reece – Defensive Line

2nd Team
Barton Davis - Linebacker
Jon DeJulio – Wide Receiver
Derek Robinson – Offensive Line
Kyle Sanniec – Kicker
Mark Schopp – Defensive Back

Honorable Mention
Alex Jones – Defensive Back
Anthony Lash – Running Back
Lee Thompson – Quarterback
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 08:25:54 PM
Maddog has run into a problem for Sat. I was just notified that I have to work here at Ford Motor Company due to a fellow workers father passing away. I'm hurting for him but frustrated to have to mis this hugh game for the MUSKIES. Is there anyone who know how I can follow the game via internet, or possible giving me ther cell # on my e-mail to keep in touch or vis versa please help the helpless DOG out here. Here I already rented a car but unfortunately for my co-worker his situation is worse. Please let me know what the options are here thanks people
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 17, 2005, 08:39:35 PM
Maddog - this may help, the game is not listed but I don't see why it would not be broadcasted on here either given the fact that Augustana's other games were on here... http://waug.augustana.edu/sports.php
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 17, 2005, 08:44:24 PM
Re: the Greenville All-Conference selections that I posted, I know I am a biased fan being a Greenville alum and having worked for the team a few years back, but I am suprised that Reggie Anthony got no recognition for Punter.  Does this surprise anybody else?

PUNTING          No.  Yds   Avg Long  TB  FC I20 Blkd
-----------------------------------------------------
Anthony, Reggie   50 2059  41.2   67   4   5  15    0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 09:38:40 PM
gc-fan. thanks for the info hopefully it works as for Reggie Anthony I personally am shocked with no honors, Clearly the best punter in the conference but like the real work world sometimes coaches give alittle to get a little for other athletes. Bottom line POLITICS. Reggie is the best this conference has to offer in that position.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 17, 2005, 10:24:35 PM
gv fan

I was REALLY surprised about Reggie. He was ibc player of the week for 3 weeks. He is first in conference in punting and 9th in the nation in punting. He was also 23rd in the nation for forced fumbles. He really deserved a all conference spot. I know maddog said politics but I just dont see how even with politics he wouldnt get recognized.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 17, 2005, 11:43:11 PM
As gc_fan said you can listen to the game from the Augie website. Also there should be updates during the game on this website.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 01:03:32 AM
Well we're about 36 hours away from the Game, I wish both teams good luck...

Play hard...
Play safe...
Play smart...

Let's have a great game, with everything being left on the field...

I'll see yah down there... I'll be a photographer on the sidelines...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 10:16:26 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 05:40:08 PM
Gomer, first thanks for the congrats to Ryan He will gladly except it for his team, Second I am just giving you s---t man, Thats what I dig about you man is your honesty. My point was AFTER we win the IBFC there first playoff game please don't start supporting our ban-wagon. I am superstisious and don't want to be jinks. Keep posting I enjoy your comments and attitude towards this conference and NO I did not read the article.

   Maddog: Normally my sixth sense about stuff serves me well but it looks like this  time it was on vacation.
   Glad my apology ( if needed)  was in my comments.
   Just to stay in form........I got this from the D3
   2005 Play off Capsules:
    " How far will they ( Lakeland) go?"
    " Not very." "But a good introduction to the play offs".
      I`ve been were you are now, the only difference
    is it was twice.  Got beat twice.
     This years Lakeland team has the honor off being the "FIRST" LC team to go to the NCAA play-offs.  Other LC teams may get there as well but they were the first. Memories and bragging rights
   last for ever. Don`t forget the RING! 
   I`ll be watching the D3 scoreboard saturday..... 
    hope guys with score information will post .
    As i`ve said before," Can LC win? Certainly.
    Will they?  Unlikely." IMO.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
     
     
     
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 10:31:04 AM
 Question: Does anybody know where the All IBFC
   teams can be found?  All schools 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 10:31:04 AM
Question: Does anybody know where the All IBFC
   teams can be found?  All schools 

Do you mean locations?

Lakeland - Sheboygan, WI
Concordia WI - Mequon, WI
CURF - River Forest, IL
Aurora - Aurora, IL
Eureka - Eureka, IL (near Peroria I think)
Benedictine - Lisle, IL
MacMurray - Jacksonville, IL
Greenville - Greenville, IL

or something else?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 18, 2005, 11:27:20 AM
I believe they were looking for the all conference teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 18, 2005, 11:29:12 AM
good ? - the conference website does not have it
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 11:35:32 AM
Quote from: gc_fan on November 18, 2005, 11:29:12 AM
good ? - the conference website does not have it

Actually it does... but you have to click on the individual teams to find it
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 01:34:36 PM
Quote from: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 10:31:04 AM
Question: Does anybody know where the All IBFC
   teams can be found?  All schools 

Do you mean locations?

Lakeland - Sheboygan, WI
Concordia WI - Mequon, WI
CURF - River Forest, IL
Aurora - Aurora, IL
Eureka - Eureka, IL (near Peroria I think)
Benedictine - Lisle, IL
MacMurray - Jacksonville, IL
Greenville - Greenville, IL

or something else?
   Something else? Yes.  There must be a "list" somewhere that shows the playeres selected  for the All IBFC teams and the schools they represent.
   Went to the IBFC site as gc_fan suggested.Checked the Mac site. As usual it was devoided of anything. In fact they still list the old SID whose been gone a year.  Good old Mac!
   Some schools list their selectees only, some don`t even do that.Oops, there`s Mac again.
    Talking about Mac, how would you like to be a senior or under grad playing football and your family and friends try to look your 2005 team picture and find they (Mac) still has the 2004 team picture posted? How lame is that ??  Come to think of it, the 2004 team probably doesn`t mind a bit. 
   
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 02:13:29 PM
Gomer,

If no one does it by like 10 tonight... I'll compile everything I can find and place it out here for everyone
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 18, 2005, 02:49:28 PM
Go ahead and put the stuff down. I know here at CUW the coaches and SID are gone already for the weekend.  A lot of guys are getting antsy.  It would be appreciated
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 02:51:51 PM
Quote from: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 02:13:29 PM
Gomer,

If no one does it by like 10 tonight... I'll compile everything I can find and place it out here for everyone
 
 Thank you......................you get my vote for
   "Employee of the year."  Maddog`s not the only one who can dish out awards.  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 1assassin1 on November 18, 2005, 03:34:46 PM
well, well! I have been watching you IBFC reps, talk about your personal accomplishments for the past couple of days now and it is getting rather dry. My question goes to the soulspenda, not (soulsenda), Joseph Sergo how long have you been playing and how long do you plan on playing? I remember you when you were at IWU and was that awhile ago? The fact that you can even say your coach says if you score 15 td's, he shouldn't need to!!! Are you going to ever say I'm graduating!!!!!!
   You know as well as I do, you should be the best receiver for you have been at Benedictine (benediction) now for 3 years and are still considering coming back for another year? I'm sure you have records!!! Oh, my mistake I was checking and the receiving records at your school should have been broken quite awhile ago. (Maybe next year, you will use your EXPERIENCE at this level, because as we all know here in CCIW land, your success never started!! And by the way, (benediction) have no T.O's!!! I cant remember any good receivers in the last decade at your school and Eric Green is outdated
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: speedy1 on November 18, 2005, 03:53:59 PM
   All I can say is this,, I cannot even believe I am on this site but to whoever the p*ssy is sending messages under my name falsely, y dont you state your name because I know Sergs as I call him and we were on the same teams you were referring to. The situations Joe has encountered is similar to my last year and if he wants to come back another yr that's his business, are you knocking him because it isn't you? I can't wait to tell Joe this one!! All I know is I'm at my sisters place and I get a call saying Im talking about Joe?? Cmon someone is using my name one D3. How petty is that!!! Im 2 years removed from this so the next time, just think twice about using my name. Joe and I have always had a good relationship and will continue to have one. By the way this one is from Sebastian Singleton, I dont hide behind the name and I am not hard to find under Speedy1. Got something to say send it and we can chat about it if it is worth my time. Joe, its your world do what you do!!!!!
Apparently whoever you are, you are juvenile to put some false info under my name. To set the record straight if you like, the correct company nimrod is Careerbuilder.com!!! I may even help you get a job, when you decide to graduate!!! And check again on the receiver records, maybe you need to do further research.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: speedy1 on November 18, 2005, 03:58:23 PM
 aww, this 1assassin1 character decided he wanted to erase his profile, what a coward. soulsenda if you read this anytime soon, do you have any idea why the IWU is hatin on my boy??? The last I checked you lead WRs in the conference in TD's right. Im not sure the assassin knows we still talk!! When you get this, get back at me, I will be at BU tonight!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 18, 2005, 04:21:20 PM
Sotha-sil, I do know that Manny Mills got 1st team running back and offensive back of the year, WR-stemmniez (sorry for the wrong spelling) first team , Robers and I forgot the others on the All Maddog Team got first team OL, Bobby Langston --- first team DL and Shared DL of the year honors with LC-- David Benton

The first unit at receivers were CUW--Stemmniez, Terry Martin--Mac and Joe Falliard--AU

Ryan Maiuri----QB-----LC and OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR

other lineman -----Bryon Vandlen---LC---OL of the year
Andrew Argall------LC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 18, 2005, 04:25:56 PM
Some others on the first team D I remember are Wilbur Allen ---------CUW at Linebacker, Ryan Van De Loo------LC---LB of the year, JR Harriel----GC,  Jerrel Davidson--------AU, Robbie Perry---------AU--DB's Oh and Russell Reece-----GC---DL Again all the people I have given you are first teamers
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 18, 2005, 04:35:28 PM
A Maddog I'm intrested in the O-Line first and second team I'm begging man can you please tell us that our coach hasn't told anybody anything yet
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 18, 2005, 04:39:23 PM
no john mask ol, jon collier wr, evan janousky db, rick hutchins db, scott gerhke lb, nick drabec ol?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 18, 2005, 04:54:46 PM
assassin
since when do u have to break records to be considered a great recevier???  As I was reading your post three names popped into my head.  Sebastian Singleton, who posted, Aaron Altenberg, and Cory Junious, and they all played together.  I hope your from North Central too because we beat you that year they all played, and actually broke the school's passing record of over 430 yards. BUT, if you arent from NCC thats fine, we still have had good receivers. Just because they dont break records they arent great? please clarify?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 18, 2005, 05:43:12 PM
Sotha-sil, Drabec is on the line, Gerhke is at LB and I do believe Hutchins is at DB on the first Team. I think Collier was second team as were some others for CUW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 18, 2005, 05:48:49 PM
I'm guessing here on one person but the 1st team OL was Vandelan--LC--OL of the year, Andrew Argall---LC, Terrance Poe---GC, Ryan Robers----CUW and Drabec----CUW, second I know were  Eder-----------LC, Deric Robinson------GC I don't remember the rest at this time
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 18, 2005, 10:01:46 PM
I just found this on the UMAC post patterns page posted by the UMAC commishioner..... It looks as though the SLIAC and UMAC conference football teams are going to form a new football alliance under the SLIAC name starting in 2008.  By 2010 the league will have an AQ.

A meeting was held in St. Louis on Monday and the presidents and athletic directors from the UMAC and SLIAC colleges have tentatively agreed on a 10-team 2-divison league.

The league will add MacMurray, Greenville, and Eureka, and lose Rockford and Marantha to the Lake Michigan
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augievike93 on November 18, 2005, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: augiedogie on November 17, 2005, 11:43:11 PM
As gc_fan said you can listen to the game from the Augie website. Also there should be updates during the game on this website.

I don't know if they will have the webcast tomorrow.  Students do all the work on it and the school is on break.  Finals were this week.  (Augustana runs on a quarter calendar).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augievike93 on November 18, 2005, 11:25:32 PM
Quote from: footballfan05 on November 15, 2005, 02:19:16 AM
The wing-t can be stopped with a disciplined d and lakeland did see flashes of the wing t against CUW who does run it very well.  So i dont think the wing t will affect them that much as far as them knowing who has the ball. i think it will be augies physical ability to pound their opponents which will win this game. But i do think that North Central will have a better chance at coming out of this bracket even though augie beat them. Far fetched but wouldnt it be awesome to see a quarterfinal rematch between those 2.

Footballfan,
  The thing about Augie is that there is no secrets about what they are going to do. Run Run Run.  Where it gets difficult for the opposing D is that there are four capable players in the backfield that are able to be the 100 yd back for the game.  Roe (Augie QB) does a great job with concealing the handoff.  There is a lot of misdirection and timing with the OL on where the hole will be. 

Here is to a great game tomorrow...and an Augustana Win.  Go Vikings!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 19, 2005, 11:09:12 AM
Augie by 24
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 19, 2005, 01:55:05 PM
Augustana  21   Lakeland  7   2nd qtr
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 19, 2005, 03:17:00 PM
A couple missed opportunities by the Muskies. Should be closer at this point, but it's 35-9 at the start of the fourth.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 19, 2005, 04:07:54 PM
To Pam thanks for the updates, Should have been a better game, My hat goes to the Augie's Vikies, great job, Brad Wilk good try, it was unfortunate your career had to start this way but son you have a hellava future with the Muskies.

To my son Ryan, great come back for the Muskies, broken leg and all. Son you are a warrior, I can't believe you play with that broken Fibula and yet threw for almost 200 yrds and 2 TD's in your comeback after only 2 weeks rest on that leg. which by the way was broke in the second quarter of the Greenville game. I know you wanted to represent the IBFC better but I have to hand it to Coach "Z" for looking out for your health. that is the most inportant thing for your future. Be proud and I wish I could have been there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 19, 2005, 10:38:45 PM
ok, so Grover and I made the trip to Augustana to see the game.

After Augie scored on their very first play from scrimmage (or maybe the 2nd, don't remember) with a 69 yard run, and on the next 2 possesions, I thought this game would get ugly real quick.  But Augie seemed to REALLY slow down after that, and didn't seem excited at all to play, they may have thought the game was over and just stopped playing.

But, I was wondering why Maiuri wasn't in the game, and Maddog explained that in his last post.  About #5 Wilk, he had like 4 chances (maybe more) for wide open deep TDs, and just mis-threw the ball, most of the time underthrown.  If he leads his receivers, than thats possibly 4 more scores for Lakeland.  I know its his first playoff game, but he needs to come through with those throws.  The WRs (Royal, White) did an amazing job catching the poorly thrown balls early, #10 (Royal) had an amazing one-handed grab to set up Lakelands first TD.

If Maiuri would have started, would the outcome have been different???  We will never know will we.

my prediction was pretty close, I said

Augustana - 45
Lakeland - 17

pretty good huh?

I am out
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 19, 2005, 10:45:05 PM
And the lack of respect just keeps on going!!  Lakeland learned that the IBC has no chance of winning a playoff game any time soon.  You guys want respect?  Better luck next year!!  You get none here! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 19, 2005, 10:45:56 PM
Agreed Cardinal...........Agreed
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 19, 2005, 11:19:20 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on November 19, 2005, 10:45:05 PM
And the lack of respect just keeps on going!!  Lakeland learned that the IBC has no chance of winning a playoff game any time soon.  You guys want respect?  Better luck next year!!  You get none here! 

Yeha, but I've also lost a lot of respect for the fans at Auggie... at least behind the endzones and closer to the sidelines. Yeah there were some late hits by lakeland, but there were also a lot of pass interferences by Auggie that were more than blatent. Also Auggie seemed to like hands to the head a lot on defense...

Does any of this make a difference to the way the teams played? no...

But it does show just a general lack of respect for student athletes from other schools... I wish that they would actually enforce the derogitory comments rule sometimes... It was that bad...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 20, 2005, 09:25:31 AM
I'll have to disagree with some of my CCIW friends. While it's clear that there was a big difference in the level of play between the two teams, I give the Muskies a lot of credit for playing this one out. They easily could have packed it in down 21-0 with 2 minutes still left in the first quarter. Also, a lot of credit to Maiuri for playing on a bad leg. I made the comment several times during the game that Augie's tackling was pretty bad, but in retrospect some of that was due I'm sure, to Lakeland's runners finishing off their runs (as well as a noticeable drop in intensity by Augie after getting a big lead). Does respect for an opponent mean you think they or their conference is on the same level of play as yours? No, in this case it has more to do with guys playing hard and being willing to play hurt.

Uamusme, you can't expect fans (some of whom are friends and relatives of players) to not complain on cheap shots. The most blatant one I saw was when Aaron Kuzniar got planted well after the play was blown dead for illegal procedure. It wasn't called and Augie fans were, justifiably, upset.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Brick on November 20, 2005, 11:24:29 AM
All but seven of their points were scored on 2nd string Augie Defenders.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 20, 2005, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: AUGIE2000 on November 20, 2005, 11:24:29 AM
All but seven of their points were scored on 2nd string Augie Defenders.....

So, that means nothing really... Other than it makes you feel better that a team from a " 2nd rate conference" can't score on your amazing defense...

Respect is different than what you think apparently. You don't earn respect by playing at all according to you... The only way to earn respect is to win... Now pardon my french, but that is bull****...

I respect anyone who is wiilling to put their body on the line just to try and boost a team.

Maiuri, man you're amazing... I wonder how the game would have turned out if you hadn't have BROKEN your leg... We'll neve know, but you have more balls than any other player I have ever seen in D3

Quote from: dansand on November 20, 2005, 09:25:31 AM
Uamusme, you can't expect fans (some of whom are friends and relatives of players) to not complain on cheap shots. The most blatant one I saw was when Aaron Kuzniar got planted well after the play was blown dead for illegal procedure. It wasn't called and Augie fans were, justifiably, upset.

Oh no... I have no problem with that if it's the play like you're talking about were Van de Loo laid the guy out after the play was over... thats fine. Be angry, yell all you want.

But it's more being up by like 30 points and yelling things about someones parent or girlfriend, or you know whatever... that just shows a complete lack of class that I wasnt expecting from Auggie.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 20, 2005, 03:15:00 PM
uamusme,

Ok I know who those guys are and if you want to base your perception of our fans off of that than you need to take a second look. If you would have sat in our seats and sat with our FANS you would know that we respect and love good football, and we cheer for our VIkings til the end. Please do not rip on our fans if they are being obscene, because those are not our real fans.

Also at Augie the only way our football team gets respect from the faithful is by winning. We have 4 Nat'l titles and 20 CCIW championships, winning is expected. We have had the same problem of people leaving their 1st string in against our 2nd string, and I agree with AUGIE2000, those points mean nothing to us. In our conference we are a powerhouse and it is expected for us to do well. That is how our team gets its respect, by doing what the program has done for the past 30 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augievike on November 20, 2005, 03:39:53 PM
Talk about classless how about your defencive linemen telling our offensive line that they were gonna try to blow out their knees so their season would be over too.  That is just wrong when a player threatens physical injury like that.  To me players that like number 99 i believe was the worst at the trash talking should never be allowed to play the game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 04:56:58 PM
I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS BS TALK ABOUT HOW OUR IBFC IS NO GOOD BUT THAT WASN'T OUR BEST TEAM OUT THERE SAT CUW IS THE BEST TEAM IN THE IBFC LAKELAND BEAT US OFF 2 MISTAKES THEY SCORED ***1**** OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN AND COULDN'T SCORE A TD WHEN THEY GOT THE BALL AT THE 10 BECAUSE THEY BEAT US ONE TIME OUT OF THE LAST 100 EVERYBODY JUMPING ON THEIR FREAKING BANDWAGON RIDING THEM LIKE THEIR JUST THAT MUCH BETTER THAN US WE LOST 4 STARTERS COMBINED THIS YEAR THAT MEANS 18 RETURNING STARTERS AND A COUPLE GOOD FRESHMAN THAT DIDN'T REALLY PLAY THIS YEAR..WE'LL SEE WHO ALL THIS TALK WILL BE ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER MATCH UP WITH AUGGIE AND REAL FOOTBALL FANS KNOW IT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2005, 05:03:48 PM
I am sure there is no need to shout.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 20, 2005, 05:06:55 PM
uhm GeTiTBoy,


CUW would have gotten the crap kicked out of them too.  Wouldn't have mattered who represented the IBFC.

Maybe next year you say??  CUW may win the IBFC next year sure, but win a playoff game?  Come on now, don't think so.

18 returning starters that didn't play?  How does that make any sense?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 05:15:34 PM
I said 18 returning starters.......I'll break it up for and a few good freshmen that didn't play. I was recurited HEAVILY by Auggie so I know what they are about we have guys that can play on alot of the top teams in D-III we shall see baseman and I beg of you we need no one on our bandwagon
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 05:17:49 PM
Not to mention we were 8th in the nation in rushing with 9 1/2 games played we also had two QBs with no experience. We will see CUW will get that first IBFC play off win
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 20, 2005, 05:30:25 PM
People are all talking about how augustana beat the crap out of Lakeland.    I think even augie fans should realize that there is no reason the game should have been 21-14 or even 21-21 halfway through the second.  There were at least 4 passes that were underthrown to receivers who were either wide open, or had their corners beat deep.  Lakeland had their back-up QB the whole first half, and then had Mauiri in for the 2nd half.  Anyone who has seen lakeland and Mauiri play knows that Mauiri gets lots of things done with his feet, which obviously he didn't have because of a broken leg.  Anyways, what I'm saying is that if Lakeland had their full team, i think it would have been closer.  I still think Augie would win, but it would have been a better game.

Getitboi -
I played against CUW this year and yeah, you guys were good.  We're you better than Lakeland???  Well they beat you.  You can't argue with that.  I would say you are both pretty evenly matched, but Lakeland had a more versitile QB with talents in both passing and running.  However, there is no way that you can say that CUW is far superior to Lakeland. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 20, 2005, 05:38:53 PM
Quote from: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 05:15:34 PM
I was recurited HEAVILY by Auggie so I know what they are about we have guys that can play on alot of the top teams in D-III

But they don't; they play at Concordia. ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 20, 2005, 05:45:11 PM
Grover:
Augie scored on the 1st play of the game. They had 3 Td's before Lakeland had 3 first downs.  I can only recall 2 huge plays where the corners were burned deep. The fake reverse play, and the 4th and 1. Even then, 1 of the deep guys was covered while the other made a great catch. Even if Lakeland would have scored 1 or more td's in the first half of the game, they weren't able to stop Augie's attack. They put up 35 in the first half and could have done the same thing in the second half if they had wanted to. Lakeland won the second half 15-14 while keeping their starting receivers in against Augie's 2nd string defense.

Quote from: grover1728 on November 20, 2005, 05:30:25 PM
People are all talking about how augustana beat the crap out of Lakeland. I think even augie fans should realize that there is no reason the game should have been 21-14 or even 21-21 halfway through the second.
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You are right, there is no reason why Lakeland should have scored that many points in the 1st half and they didn't.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 20, 2005, 06:08:53 PM
There were 2 other underthrown balls that half, the first #1 dropped the pick, and the second #1 caught the pick.  But in both instances, WR #1 had gotten behind the Augie corner.  Yes, after those plays Augie did manage to put up 35 in the first half.  But we can only imagine the possibilities if the score was 21-21.  All i'm saying is that Lakeland did have some chances to stay in the game.  After the quick 21 put up by Augie, lakeland stopped them for a couple of drives. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 20, 2005, 06:18:59 PM
Lakeland stopped them because Augie for some reason just quit playing it seemed like to me.  They just didnt have any fire after their first 3 scores. 

I agree, the score could have been alot worse if Augie stayed fired up after their first 3 scores, and kept their starters in. Lakeland definately would NOT have come out with 22 points. Grover, don't make me come accross the hall and beat you with my bad arm.

GeTitBoY........you got burned..............burned hard
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 06:27:55 PM
Quote from: grover1728 on November 20, 2005, 05:30:25 PM
People are all talking about how augustana beat the crap out of Lakeland.    I think even augie fans should realize that there is no reason the game should have been 21-14 or even 21-21 halfway through the second.  There were at least 4 passes that were underthrown to receivers who were either wide open, or had their corners beat deep.  Lakeland had their back-up QB the whole first half, and then had Mauiri in for the 2nd half.  Anyone who has seen lakeland and Mauiri play knows that Mauiri gets lots of things done with his feet, which obviously he didn't have because of a broken leg.  Anyways, what I'm saying is that if Lakeland had their full team, i think it would have been closer.  I still think Augie would win, but it would have been a better game.

Getitboi -
I played against CUW this year and yeah, you guys were good.  We're you better than Lakeland???  Well they beat you.  You can't argue with that.  I would say you are both pretty evenly matched, but Lakeland had a more versitile QB with talents in both passing and running.  However, there is no way that you can say that CUW is far superior to Lakeland. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 06:32:29 PM
Never did I say we are FAR superior than Lakeland I said they aren't better than us meaning we pretty equal across the board expect they had a veteran and pretty good QB we had a freshman and seeing action for the first time QB. Your quoting me with my post right below man get it right....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 20, 2005, 06:34:26 PM
baseman:

Augie has the tendancy to come out of the gates hard in the 1st quater. They got up 17-0 against NC in the first half and they were up 21-7 against Wheaton in the first half. They for some unknown reason tend to have a not so great 2nd quarter. They let North Park stay in the game early along with an IWU team they put away later in the game.  Augie did seem to get complacent after the 1st quarter and to start the 2nd half. They seem to have an ok 3rd quarter but put teams away in the 4th.  It should be a great matchup @ Mt. Union this weekend.  I give Lakeland a lot of credit for staying in the game and doing whatever they needed to try to score. The gutsy 4th and 1 long bomb certained fooled the Augie D along with the fake punt from deep in their own territory. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 06:38:32 PM
Dansand Lets hear all this Auggie talk when The "U" of D-III stomps a mudhole in them.... ;)

And the reason I didn't choose Auggie I'd rather play for a team with a little diveristy just a little!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 20, 2005, 06:48:24 PM
GetitBoy

So you were heavily recruited by AUGIE (one G so get it right). Then why didn't you play for us. If you wanted diversity we have it, you should come out to a game and see. Of course at a private school it is going to be heavily white. I am not being racist that is just the way it is. The fact is our team is top 10 in the nation and nobody in your conference is even ranked. It didn't matter what team we played from your conference we would have beaten them. We are not saying that your conference is bad, we are just saying that the CCIW is one of the toughest conferences in the nation and that Augie is one of the powerhouses in that conference. The only reason the game was so close was simply because Augie played even more conservative than normal in the second half for the second straight week with a big lead. If you wanted to see Augie play 60 minutes of all out football the score would have been something like what UW-W did to them early.

Also you think you are better than Lakeland, then my question is why didn't you beat them? The fact that they only scored one touchdown on offense means nothing to me. I read the press relaese and you guys did absolutely nothing the last 3 quarters. If you want to win you have to play the whole game, something you did not do on that Saturday.

Also why don't you go over to the OAC board and check out what the people are saying about the Augie/ MUC game next week. They admit they are beatable and they are saying that Augie would be just the team to do it. You haven't seen us play all year, so don't act like you know a thing about our football team. They are equal to MUC and the game is going to be a tough battle. At least our team is still playing, as you have to sit at home and type about what might have been.


To all posters:

Why is it that so many active players are posting on this site? I know that CCIW players are not allowed to post of these sites, why don't the coaches from the IBFC stop their players from doing the same? It seems to me these guys should care more about playing then they should reading what we all have ot say.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 20, 2005, 07:01:53 PM
vikes35,
I figured he just meant more diversity on offense. I could be wrong.

GeTiTBoi,
The word Augie (or Auggie) didn't even appear in my post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 07:05:29 PM
 Wow so passionate..Active players should be posting not fake chris bermans and mel kiper jr's....You haven't seen our team play so how could you say something about a press release. Were you guys better than Carthage last year when they beat you or how about Central when they beat you by one go ask your players I bet they would tell you they were so that who arguement is out the window...I just didn't want to go there still don't I'm happy with my choice.. Coming on this board and bashing IBFC is a slap in the face of every player and coach in this league and I'm not saying the IBFC is all that great but were good and LC is good there will be a shift in power soon...And no more talking about what could have been it is what its going to be.

No I was talking about the pop. you were right.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 07:11:18 PM
It didn't have to..you have it in you picture
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 20, 2005, 07:11:53 PM
Vikes35 -
We (baseman and I) are no longer active players as of 3 weeks ago.  Our college playing days have come and gone, which went by far too fast and saddens me.  But what does posting have to do about the desire to play?  It's not like any current players are talking ****.  This site is merely an online convo about football.  If you don't like it, get off the IBFC page.

While I despise mequon( Muck Fequon  ;)  ) getitboi has a point.  One thing i noticed was that every single Augie player was white.  Sure there may be diversity on the campus, but not on the team.  Mequon is a much more diverse squad, as are most IBFC schools.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 20, 2005, 07:14:28 PM
GeTiTBoi,

Just so you know, Augie beat Carthage 35-0 last year. They've lost a lot of tight games the past few years, mostly to Wheaton. While dissappointed, I don't recall any Augie backers saying that the CCIW didn't send their best when Wheaton went to the playoffs. As far as bashing your conference, if you look at my posts, I've said nothing negative about the IBFC, unless you consider pointing out that the CCIW is better as negative. It's also true.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 07:17:48 PM
I'm talking about just you since the playoff pairings were announced people have been on here talk a whole bunch of trash just downing the entire IBFC I understand top to bottom were no where compared to CCIW didn't know that when I committed but I know now but our top 2 teams would compete in your league not saying we would have the 7-3 or 8-2 like we had this year but we would compete i.e lakeland vs carthage 20-16
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 07:19:15 PM
My bad I thought ya'll lost to carthage the way Coach Rucks were talking about ya'll when i said Augie was in the hunt for me
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 20, 2005, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 07:05:29 PM
were good and LC is good there will be a shift in power soon...

Um... I'm wondering where this shift is... I mean ... AU won a couple, then Mac, then CUW then the Split, then Lakeland... we seem to not have a shift, but a revolving door when it comes to our playoff representitive...

If you're talking about power in the conference... and CUW being not powerfull now and shifting to powerful... I think you're wrong. There was a shift of power 3 years ago when Zebrowski came to Lakeland. He took a passing team and with basically the same players minus about 3 freshman starters and turned them into a contender... So I guess unless you are talking about GC or BU jumping up, or a resurgence of Mac, I think you're mistaken... because CUW has been on/near the top of the conference for about the last 4-5 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augievike93 on November 20, 2005, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 05:15:34 PMI was recurited HEAVILY by Auggie so I know what they are about.

Yet you still don't know how to spell "Augie."  Amazing....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 20, 2005, 11:38:31 PM
Going to have to disagree about diversity. I would say that most of our players are white, but we are starting to get more minorities on to the campus and the football team. The problem is that there are very few that apply. Augie tries to make it accessible but the numbers just aren't there. If we can't get a larger minority population in that is not our fault as long as we are trying that is all people can ask of the school.

To all of the IBFC guys I am not saying anything against the conference as you guys are good and can play a tough game (I saw that yesterday) I was just saying that the CCIW is one of the toughest conferences in DIII, and it is going to send a rep to the playoffs that is probably better than the IBFC. It was not a cut and I am sorry if it came across the wrong way. I am sure the people who do not have thin skin are able to admit that, hopefully next year is the year, and good luck to all.

As for active players posting on the board, I was only talking about what seemed to be a couple of obvious ones. Grover1728 if getitboi is an active player he seems to be talking trash with his comments. I was just pointing out that CCIW players are told to stay off the boards because they should be focused on the games they play not the computer screens. It seems to me that if an active player is on a board it is taking from his concentration towards actually playing football, and I am sure many coaches and CCIW fans agree with me. If coaches have no problem with it in the IBFC that is fine with me, I just think they might get players who are more focused if they told them to stay away from the boards.

Also if the shift of power concerned is the fact that the IBFC will be better than the CCIW next year or in the near future lets get serious. The CCIW is going to return teams from Wheaton, North Central College, and Augie that are going to be able to compete with most in the nation next year. The IBFC is a good but not great conference, but lets not get carried away with how good they really are. It will be tough next year for the IBFC to get a playoff win against the CCIW if the matchup went that way.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Augie6 on November 21, 2005, 12:00:19 AM
GetiTBoI,

IMO, don't think it's a big deal whether active players (or those recently "retired", grover and baseman) are posting on the site or not.  I think it can add a little more interest to some of the discussions that occur on this site.  However, please be careful about describing non-active players posting on this site as "fake Chris Berman's or Mel Kiper Jr.'s".  A large number of posters on this site are former DIII player's who have excellent insights and truly understand DIII football.

As for the respect issue, we played against a lot of different teams with much lower talent levels than we had during my 4 years at Augie.  The teams I had respect for were the one's who played hard to the whistle, didn't give up and didn't feel the need to talk a lot of "trash".  Most of the teams we played against met this criteria.  In my mind, the respect I had for them wasn't about the final score, it was about the effort they gave.  Based on what I've heard and read about yesterday's game, it sounds like Lakeland met this criteria.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superstar on November 21, 2005, 12:08:25 AM
To all of the IBFC guys I am not saying anything against the conference as you guys are good and can play a tough game (I saw that yesterday) I was just saying that the CCIW is one of the toughest conferences in DIII, and it is going to send a rep to the playoffs that is probably better than the IBFC.

I dont think anyone argues about the cciw being a tougher conference than the illini badger.  i played for aurora 2 years with an independent schedule and two years in the ibc.  we went 14 and 0 thru the ibc those two years and got screwed on an at large bid which would of allowed for a great matchup in 1999 against augie.  we had the a top 5 rush defense and all kinds of weapons on offense.  i forget who got in insted of us but i believe that  the ibc would of beat the cciw that year.  every year at this time it drives me nuts that we didnt get that opportunity.  so i had to bring it up.  that sucks about lakelands qb being hurt.  i thought that this year would of been comparable to 1999 and it would of been a great game.  of course 1999 never happened.  would of could of should of.  this is about illinois football verse ohio now.  i am tired of mount union so i hope augie opens up a can on their azz.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Brick on November 21, 2005, 12:29:59 AM
Who cares is There are not many minorities at Augie....Augie is a school that prides it's self on being a student first and an athlete second....GeTITboI if you were so heavily courted by Augie I'm sure Coach Barnes talked with you about this....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 21, 2005, 06:38:59 AM
For what it's worth, since we're talking about diversity, fully 1/3 of the players in Augie's basketball program are African-American.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 21, 2005, 07:18:42 AM
 Open question: Anybody heard anything reguarding Coach Frey at Tri-State?
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 21, 2005, 12:01:16 PM
Oh yeah, Grover and I went to a private high school with only one black guy in the school, and come to think of it no hispanics either.............

Anyhow, the only black kid in the school gets kicked off the basketball team for being at a party, yeah..................thought it was kind of funny, pretty ironic...............Has nothing to do with the IBFC and D-III football, but the season is over anyhow.................yeah..............................I am done

Hope you enjoyed the story
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 21, 2005, 01:02:50 PM
Gomer, I don't know if this is any more than you know, but Frey is no longer at Tri-State (an assistant is listed as the interm Head Coach) also, last monday there was a job announcement for the Head Coach position there on footballscoop.com.  As far as where Frey is now, I have no clue
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 21, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
Quote from: gc_fan on November 21, 2005, 01:02:50 PM
Gomer, I don't know if this is any more than you know, but Frey is no longer at Tri-State (an assistant is listed as the interm Head Coach) also, last monday there was a job announcement for the Head Coach position there on footballscoop.com.  As far as where Frey is now, I have no clue

That`s what i thought ( no longer the head FB coach).
    He departed Mac about 3 years ago to a better job (Tri-State)... So he thought.
    But after winning only (2) games out of (30) looks like the Admin at Tri-State had had enough.
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 21, 2005, 03:08:11 PM
Augie, i agree that current players should not be able to post on here, or atleast their coaches should disallow it.  I remember my freshmen year, our coach found out this other kid did, and went ape sh*t.  Its a good rule that your coaches do that and even better that the players abide by it.  As for the crime scene in Rock Island...I am a firm believer that Augie got lathargic after the 1st quarter, and for whatever reason arent as good in the 2nd, every team has some sort of quarter they funk in.  Im sure Augie will not "funk" in the MT Union game, no matter what the score is, they wont be slumping.

GeTiTboi - I agree CUW would have given them a game more so.  CUW d-line was better and running back were superior to Lakelands.  And I dont care what the all conf. said, im telling u a fact based on blocking them.  CUW has probably been the best team in my opinion all 4 years at BU, except maaaybe AU last year, but i believe AU beat them 24-7 or so.

And I find it admirable that Mauri played on a bum leg, but was it a stress fracture or are we talking Joe Theisman?(probably not joe theisman but I mean a legitimate break?)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 21, 2005, 04:55:52 PM
Ryan had a clean break through the fibula actually I am totally supprised he did play but then againt I 'm not because of his heart for the game, his team and the conference. Had he been healty he would have made a bigger difference in the score. He did well under the surcomstances, throwing for 181 yrds and (2) TD's throwing off his right leg not using his left leg which a right handed QB throws off of. BU FAN-Lakeland was clearly the best team the conference had to offer, CUW no didcredit but you could not have represented us any better, if you could of you would have beaten us when YOU HAD A 14 POINT lead WHICH YOU LOST!. Drop the topic you lost the game and it is over, Would-hv,, Could-hv, Should-hv, you guys are killing me. All you had better was the RUNNING BACK that is IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 21, 2005, 05:11:14 PM
bufan:
Just and FYI.  That's been the "unwritten" rule on all the boards since the inception of this website (and certainly is the rule for almost all the head coaches of the DIII schools as far as we know) i.e. that current players (and/or coaches) are not to post on this website during the season.  Most people do not have a problem with them doing so during the off-season. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 21, 2005, 06:38:50 PM
maddog, to say we ONLY had a better RB is crazy...would you honestly only take our RB if you could have the best talent from CUW? the stats do not always speak of the talent....you know there are plenty of guys at CUW you would not blink before you jump on the chance to take them for lakeland....not to say the other way around isnt the same
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 21, 2005, 07:23:23 PM
Sotha-sil, I would definately take many CUW players, I was saying that the running back was the only area where we did not have a comparable athlete like Mills, as for Allen and Langston, Collier, Stemminz etc. yes I would take in a heart beat, but Lakeland also had comparable plauers, in Benton, Zeck, Van De Loo, White etc. my point was CUW was not any better than Lakeland for this playoff game. both teams were great this season and both would have made great reps for the conference. Lakeland served us well. I was just telling BU-Fan that CUW was not better than Lakeland this year only.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 21, 2005, 09:16:03 PM
love ya maddog...thought u ment other wise
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 21, 2005, 11:07:36 PM
Thanks Brother
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on November 22, 2005, 07:46:56 AM
Just to add to that 99 Aurora team that did not get a playoff bid.  They were a talented team that yr, only lost to Millikin by 2 that yr @ millikin, and had a chance to win it at the end.  yes cciw is a much stronger conference.  HOpefully Augie can knock Mount Union out this yr.  They played em tough in 00 or 01 at Mt Union, but I do not believe this Mt Union team is near as strong as that team was.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 22, 2005, 09:11:57 AM
Fluffypuppy:

Augie played Mt. Union tought in '99 but got destroyed in the '01 game. It's unfortunate that the game is at Mt. Union because Augie could have very easily gotten the 2nd seed in the region. This '05 team has a better chance than the '99 and '01 team did of beating Mt. Union, but they would have to play a perfect game to stand a chance.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on November 22, 2005, 03:13:04 PM
augiedogie,

sorry I met the '99 team that had mcpeek and chorney on it, well they were still probably on it in 01 along w/ several other great players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 22, 2005, 03:26:49 PM
people need to just stop talking S h it  on her and then maybe there wouldnt be these ridicolous arguments.

As far as people posting on here who play, its called self defense and pride.  If someone bad mouths me they know its coming right back at them.  I dont hide who I am or where I go to school.  Im a captain and if people bad mouth my players or team I aM GONNA STAND UP FOR THEM.  For too long people have gotten away with running their mouth and all that.  Most of the people who talk didnt even start or play on their teams.  If u ask me I think u should post while ur in college and when ur done ur done.  I will have no interest in posting on here when my college days are over, maybe because I will have a lice and more important things to do.  Its okay to have an opinion but to come on here and argue with college kids or bad mouth someone is immature and plain retarded.  Seriously, talking bad about someone on here with no cause or in defense is about as cool as cancer.  No girl is gonna see it and wanna blow you or think your cool nor is it gonna make you an all american or the next Lee Corso.  I say stuff on here but I only do it in defense and then I back it up on the field.  BOTTOM LINE.  If youre gonna talk dust say who you are, what uve done to be able to say anything or be worthy to have an opinion(which doesnt include being fat, out of shape, and working at Subway) and be prepared for a response,  BOTTOM LINE.  Go bears!!!  Anyone else wanna back me up on this or is everyone gonna attack me?  Either way its cool. 


*** AND one more friggin point.  Whats with this friggin XBOX360 bull Sh  it.  Lining up outside stores all night for it.  HOW UNBELIEVABLY GAY.  Number one, our country is so lazy theyd rather play a friggin videogame than do something useful..HOw pathetic.  And two,  Id rather play nintendo's old school Tecmo Superbowl than any of these gay games.  And for the record I beat BUFAN in a game of Tecmo Bowl and he claimed to be the best ever.  And by the way BUFAN is prolly the best athlete that posts on here.  He could dominate any offensive   tackle or end in D3.   ONE...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 22, 2005, 03:53:42 PM
While I don't agree with Mr. Sergo completely, I will say that it is pretty dumb to talk smack about any particular player. Give credit where credit is due, they're out there on the field giving in their all. I don't think I've ever once ripped on any player, and I don't plan on it. I'm nothing but a well-informed spectator. What grounds do I have to rip on a player?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 22, 2005, 03:59:36 PM
I am gonna have to disagree about the Xbox 360....We got to the store at 545 this morning....granted we were like the 100th person there and didnt get one....We came back and played tecmo super bowl...I won 7-6 (special teams is an important factor Im tellin ya)...I guess Im so "gay" my screen name, sotha sil, is from a video game....You may get me at tecmo but come see me at halo lol
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 22, 2005, 04:02:37 PM
Oh, if anyone is interested on the CUW website they have all the first team selections up...a few guys on there that were posted as being second teamers....yall scared a few people on here
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 22, 2005, 05:48:01 PM
Soulsenda,

I actually am a college student myself at Augie and if you think I am bashing on you guys I am not. I was just saying that it seems like the coaches should keep you guys away from this site and the board. I do not play but know some of the players for our team and Coach Barnes has told them to stay away and not to be a part of it. I am truly happy that you are passionate about your football team and playing, I was just making mention that in many other conferences and for most teams in the division active players are not allowed to post.  If you get bashed on here, I would find it more fitting to come back the next week and shove it in their face by showing effort on the field, not by typing some words onto a computer. I do not bash players unless I have seen something in person that deserves mention. I am an extremely well informed fan about our football team, and I was just making a comment about something I knew about our conference. It was not meant to be a burn or cut at you guys, more a question about what the coaches have to say about it.

However calling people retarded and GAY is immature and I don't think that was necessary no matter who you were talking about. I agree with being kind to others, but afford them the same curtosy. Not everyone you meet are you going to like, don't waste so much energy talking like that, instead focus on positives. In no way was I trying to be rude or a jerk, and nor do I dislike anyone on this board. I am saying flat out if coaches don't have a problem with you guys being on here that is fine with me, it was just an observation from another conference that had different rules. Good Luck to the IBFC in 2006.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 22, 2005, 05:58:53 PM
Soulsenda,

I don't think Pat Coleman would be wild about your idea that ONLY current students should post - across all the boards I dare say that 80-90% of posters are alums and/or parents of players. :)

And let's leave off the homophobia and other childish rants, shall we?  You're making your school look awfully bad.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 22, 2005, 09:43:02 PM
ok dont be a baby man...U know for a fact that I wasnt talking about homosexual people.  Its a saying.  I think people that bash on other people for no reason are RETARDED AND I DONT LIKE THEM.  IM NOT GONNA BE FAKE AND GO AROUND IT.  I SAY WHAT I WANT WHEN I WANT HOW I WANT BC IM NOT FAKE.  If i feel one way I express it.  Thats what America is about, freedom to say and do as you please.  Im also Catholic and I believe in treating others the way you would like to be treated,  so therefore if u bash someone u will get bashed in return.  If you dont play football you really shouldnt bash anyone playing the sport unless they are a professional(getting paid).
And I am not making my school look bad.  I make my school look good, I am a good person Im just not a P uss Y and I am opinionated.


Im done on here, its swoll season and thats all I need to worry about.

For all the kids who hate on here, Only one things to say..."dont hate me cuz you ain't me."  plain and simple.  If you hate on here, thats all that needs to be said to you. 

MADDOG-   Is your son gonna try and play anywhere after he grads?  He should def check out Europe or even arena.  He is the kinda kid who I know couldnt give up football just like I am.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 22, 2005, 09:54:03 PM
Joe, I hope so, he has the ability for arena and canadian. We will see, as should you. You have the talent to back it. As for posting, your right "its called freedom of Speech and Press. Just be careful and don't go overboard, your better than that. I will be following BU as well as the IBFC next year. Work hard on your studies dude. It's hell in the real world with all the job losses out there. I will say you do say what is on your mind and DON"T let anyone change who you are, just back your comments. I'm with you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 23, 2005, 12:53:46 AM
Quote"dont hate me cuz you ain't me." 

Soulsenda,
Comments like these make a lot of people think that is arrogance. I know that you are very confident in who you are by the way you post, but I would think about toning that kind of attitude down, because it really can make you look like a cocky jerk (not a good way to get ahead in life, just ask T. O.). However, Ypsi is right you are making a bad name for yourself and your school if you are going to start calling people retarded and using words like the P**** word. It doesn't matter if you are using the term in general or not, it doesn't seem like an appropriate action for a college student (something I know a little bit about being that I am a senior right now).  I know that I would feel like a jerk if I put that up there and it represented the Augustana community. As for bashing no one is bashing you, you are acting immature on here and people don't really like it. Call people babies if you like, but many are disagreed with on this site and they don't start going off on tangents about people being retarded. I know you have a freedom of speech, but also have some class and respect for others. We have not called you any names, we have not said anything except that some of us thought it was unusual that active players were posting, outside of that any other thoughts were focused at the positives of your conference.  As for me not being able to talk negatively about somebody because I am not a player or former player, I am sorry but nobody else told me that football players were the only ones that could talk about the game. I guess I don't have freedom of speech to say what I want to because I never strapped on shoulder pads and put a jersey on. I know alot about my college's football team and the opponents we play in the CCIW and because of that I should be able to say what I want. The only reason I was over here was because I wanted to learn something about Lakeland and the game we had on Saturday, I didn't think that my making a simple comment would amount to this. I am just saying that you should think more before you speak, you have freedom of speech and I for one am not trying to take that away from you, but I do believe freedom of speech entails that you try to have some class for the people that you talk to, and with some of the language you use that seems to fly out the window. Its cool not to be fake, but it would also be nice if you didn't try to make people feel bad about their ideas when their ideas are not trying to make you feel bad. In no way did I mean harm by anything I said, so I ask for you not to get so defensive. I am sure you are a great player, the praise you get as a player on this board speaks for that, but realize that people have comments and that they are not always in agreement with your own, that is not automatic grounds to bash that person. Whatever was said I am not on here to make people feel bad, so in all sincerity no comments were meant to offend anyone, they were simply the opinion of one D3 football fan. Good luck to you in the future no matter what happens with football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 23, 2005, 11:48:22 AM
Soulsenda or Sergo or whoever you are, you are making yourself, school and conference in general look bad. I frequently visit other conference posts, and the Illini-Badger one is by far the most ridiculous and I have addressed this before. Guys are constantly bickering and talking about non-football related things. Show some class, I am taking away from your on the field work ethic or talent just your whining. >:(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 23, 2005, 11:50:03 AM
Sorry, I meant to say that I AM NOT taking away from your ability to play the game, just the fact that you come off as childish and there is no need to act that way.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: langston92 on November 23, 2005, 01:03:30 PM
I just want to say good job to all of my teammates at cuw.  I want everyone to know that we have work to do this off-season.  congrats to lakeland
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 23, 2005, 06:02:41 PM
Soulsenda, you are cool!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 23, 2005, 06:56:34 PM
Soulsenda,

You say that you aren't making yourself or anyone involved with BU look bad, but when others are telling you that you are making your school and others look bad it is fairly obvious that you are. In your opinion you are not, but to many others on this site you are, so in turn that means that outsiders think that you are being negative and giving your school and yourself a bad name. It is fine with me that you don't care but I am sure that others do care.

As for being cocky, that is bad, being confident is good, there is a difference, you should know that. I was a decent hockey player before I hurt my knee, but I never thought that to be a great athlete I had to be arrogant and cocky, I knew I just had to go out there and give it my all. In a football game the guys I choose to respect are the ones that work their butts off everyday and ask for nothing but the same from their teammates, not guys like T. O. who think the league owes him something. Being a great athlete means being a great athlete, not a great mouth.

Also I don't care who the language is directed at, it is mean, vulgar, and uncalled for on here. You weren't saying anything at me, that is fine, I am trying to get to the point that you are not making things better with anyone by posting what you are. If you are done with the website cool with me, but if you could tone it down maybe you could enlighten people on the board to things they might not know about BU football, and to be honest I think that is part of the reason that this post board is here. We had a guy on the CCIW post board who was just like you at the end of last year and he got thrown off and didn't care. If you care about BU maybe you could be a good poster that brings to light details that others don't know. I am just sticking up for the other posters that you seem to bash on, because they don't deserve it, and to the ones that do deserve it, let it go, they are just trying to get to you, and it seems to be working.

Also me being nice is not fake. I am being nice because when it comes to good football I am a fan, and when I say something I mean it, that is not being fake, that is being honest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 23, 2005, 08:31:42 PM
VikeE35, Zobradagreek and anyone else not from the IBFC-

You don't like what Serg or any other IBFC site regulars have to say then simply don't read it - or better yet stay on your own page. Ya know it gets old hearing how your conferences are so great and the IBFC isn't. Personally, the IBFC is the only conference in D3 - when their season ends so does football. Could care less what happens anywhere else.

So here's wishing all my IBFC pals (you to Pongo) a great holiday season - stay healthy see you in the spring.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 24, 2005, 12:29:31 AM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 23, 2005, 08:31:42 PM

  Ya know it gets old hearing how your conferences are so great and the IBFC isn't. 

Truth hurts some times!! :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 24, 2005, 01:50:33 PM
It's not that it hurts, it's just that you guys come in here talking about it like we have no idea. I'm pretty sure all of the IBFC posters know what our non-conference and playoffs records are.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 24, 2005, 04:08:08 PM
AUFB-

My man, appreciate the lookout.  As for everyone else, I didnt say anything that wasnt called for.  Dont talk **** if u cant handle it right back.  Stop friggin crying.  I only said things to people who started saying things about me, my team, or our conference.  I never initiated anything, I only responded.  Stop trying to play the mediator just let it go.  I dont care what people think I only care that I stand up for me, my team, my conference.  BOTTOM LINE. 

***SOMEONE CAME ON HERE ATTACKING ME AND PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE ELSE= FAKE, RETARDED,GAY.  If you cant deal with those grown up terms then leave it alone. 

FINALLY, no one respond to this.  I don t feel like explaing myself again.  Its like Im talking to a bunch or of walls.  I DIDNT INITIATE IT, SOMEONE STARTED IT, I FINISHED IT.  The person erased his account and went hiding away.  You all dont know me, dont know what kind of player I am.  Excuse me for not sugar coating things,  I never have and never will.  Thats how I was raised and I am also the most respectful person to those who DESERVE it.  If you disrespect me, dont expect me to be respectful back and nice.  Ill either brush it off, or RESPOND times 10.  Thats all.  LEave it alone.

HAPPY THANKGIVING TO EVERYONE!!!!  Get some good protein in!!!  To anyone I offended, I didnt intend to , I was only aiming at a certain person who was neing fake, andc attacking me.  Now leave it alone, its over.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2005, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: Soulsenda on November 24, 2005, 04:08:08 PM
If you cant deal with those grown up terms then leave it alone. 

Ironic, your pretending that anything about your rhetoric is grown-up.

Listen, vikes is right -- you reflect poorly on yourself, your institution and your conference with your posts, especially the one I had to delete. Grow up. This isn't high school.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 24, 2005, 06:35:51 PM
HEY COLEMAN,  BEAT IT!!!

Delete that buddy.  Then you can delete my account, then delete the idea that your cool bc u run a friggin website where people run their mouth and hide.  Dont worry about me, or what I say.  U have no right to judge. I didnt see you interefere when people were pretending to be others and talking ****.  Do yourself a favor, get off your fake ass power trip and BEAT IT.  BALL FOUR TAKE A WALK. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 24, 2005, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: Soulsenda on November 24, 2005, 04:08:08 PM
I am also the most respectful person to those who DESERVE it.

I'd like to see that post.  I hope your folks didn't pay for your education (and I hope the tax payer hasn't either).  Like Bluto from Animal House: 7 years of college down the drain.  Someone should get a refund.

Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 24, 2005, 08:17:09 PM
hey, Pat....I am tryin' to get my karma up....Love, joy, happiness...I hope for world peace...and interconference friendship and love...Everyone is an all-american to me...hope that gets me a few karma brownie points
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 08:40:58 PM
Quote from: OzJohnny93 on November 24, 2005, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: Soulsenda on November 24, 2005, 04:08:08 PM
I am also the most respectful person to those who DESERVE it.

I'd like to see that post.  I hope your folks didn't pay for your education (and I hope the tax payer hasn't either).  Like Bluto from Animal House: 7 years of college down the drain.  Someone should get a refund.

Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."

You've got the gist of it (and I don't guarantee my quote is exact), but after several stumbling starts, I believe he said "What a terrible thing it is to lose one's mind".

A true Phi Beta Kappa among national leaders!  (Though 'W' sometimes makes him look literate!)

[And couldn't agree more about Soulsenda.]
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on November 24, 2005, 08:17:09 PM
hey, Pat....I am tryin' to get my karma up....Love, joy, happiness...I hope for world peace...and interconference friendship and love...Everyone is an all-american to me...hope that gets me a few karma brownie points

Pat is not the giver and taker-away of karma points (though he no doubt CAN).  Posters with sufficient number of points (200? 250?) can 'smite' or 'applaud', thus giving karma.

The one thing I don't like about the system (and I don't generally give much credence to it anyway) is that those of us who post widely have no way of knowing what we said that offended (or made happy) where if our karma suddenly moves up or down several points!  A few days ago I suddenly dropped 6 points, and I have no clue why.  Since no one poster can smite or applaud in less than (I think) 12 hours, I obviously offended a bunch of people, but could not figure out what post would have made anyone mad!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 24, 2005, 09:18:51 PM
Mr. Ypsi,

That was the most insightful post of the year. No lie.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2005, 09:25:08 PM
Quote from: Soulsenda on November 24, 2005, 06:35:51 PM
BALL FOUR TAKE A WALK. 

OK, you're outta here!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2005, 09:27:45 PM
Quote from: OzJohnny93 on November 24, 2005, 07:18:05 PM
Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."

Actually, I believe that misquote is, "what a waste it is to lose one's mind." :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 24, 2005, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2005, 09:27:45 PM
Quote from: OzJohnny93 on November 24, 2005, 07:18:05 PM
Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."

Actually, I believe that misquote is, "what a waste it is to lose one's mind." :)

You're probably right.  I felt the post lost some of it's disrespectful tone to hedge the quote ("...said something like...").  And I couldn't be bothered googling the correct words.

BTW - I took a quick look for his coach's email at Benedictine, but didn't find it.  It would be good if someone could make the program aware of this sort of conduct.  It's a key step toward creating the type of discipline needed for success.  I also doubt the coach would appreciate the discriptions of his sideline and locker room behavior, which is apparently no better than that of Soulsenda in this forum.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2005, 09:25:08 PM
Quote from: Soulsenda on November 24, 2005, 06:35:51 PM
BALL FOUR TAKE A WALK. 

OK, you're outta here!

THANK YOU

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2005, 09:27:45 PM
Quote from: OzJohnny93 on November 24, 2005, 07:18:05 PM
Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."

Actually, I believe that misquote is, "what a waste it is to lose one's mind." :)

Well, I was close a few posts ago, but yours sounds more like I now remember it.

And, alas, we now have a President who makes Dan Quayle seem articulate! ;)

(And, I promise, no more political commentary on this site!)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 24, 2005, 10:19:31 PM
 
Ask and you shall receive!   ;D

Jon Cooper-Head Football Coach, Benedectine University.
(630) 829-6153
jcooper@ben.edu
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 10:19:50 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on November 24, 2005, 09:18:51 PM
Mr. Ypsi,

That was the most insightful post of the year. No lie.

I did two consecutive posts - I'm dyin' to know: which one??!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 24, 2005, 10:49:09 PM
The one about the Karma rating.  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: usee on November 24, 2005, 11:08:40 PM
i will add this- jon cooper (hc at bu) is a class act. he spent many years at aurora and was a big reason they had the success they did. he knows his football and most certainly would not tolerate the actions of his players on here if he knew it were happening.

so long soulsenda--good riddance.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on November 24, 2005, 10:49:09 PM
The one about the Karma rating.  :)

Thanks for clarifying!  I'll put you back closer to the positive side!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 24, 2005, 11:47:41 PM
hey, i play fable and i like being good...so if everyone could be nice and make my karma good i would love ya....please ppl im an angle...on the field im godly too
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 25, 2005, 11:50:51 AM
USEE

Good call, Coach Coop is a class act and if this was sent to him he would probably do something about it.  Joe just doesnt give a "you know what" he does what he wants and most of the time he gets reprecussions.  I guess if you wanted to credit him with something it would be not taking any sh*t.

Anyways, I have a clarification question, what are the requirements for eanring first team, second team, and honorable mention? I hear different things about each.  Is first team unanimous, second team X numnber of coaches vote for you and honorable mention just one other coach besides yours votes for you?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 26, 2005, 10:57:43 PM
-2 you guys are just evil...pat can you pulls some strings
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on November 28, 2005, 02:04:52 PM
 Gentlemen,

I have never been compelled to participate in this posting until now!
 
First, I agree with Sergo or Soulsenda to the extent of defending himself and his Conference but i don't agree with some choice of words.   There was alot of truth in the words he shared.   Alot of you guys do slam "KIDS" and there respectful football programs.  Regardless of what we have accomplished or where we've been in our football careers it's not our right to judge, demoralize and strip these kids of their experiences.   "We had our time now let them enjoy there careers how they seem fit"

  I've witnessed guys from other conferences get on here and just slam each other bragging that there conference would beat the "you know what" out of IBFC kids. (Oh, but you guys didn't see those post, so there goes questioning the CCIW representation and maturity!!!)  True enough the IBFC have not produced once in the playoffs but how can you compare last years team, competition and elements to a current team?  Stats do give the truth but they don't speak for character..........

The bottom line is this, I'm a former "D1" player and whenever I watch a football game I don't compare myself to them nor do I look down on another team because of their conference.  I watch with respect of the competitors and most important respect for the game.....

"You guys know damn well, if you were him maybe 10 yrs ago, you would've repsonded the same way!!!!! " He's just a kid........ 

Yes, Jon Cooper and Staff are a great group of coaches but by no means do i judge them because of their kids actions.  Coaches mold and teach the kids in their allotted time they don't control them. 

I'm also tired of hearing about the T.O. situation.  I don't see you guys judging or questioning Andy Reid's character because of T.O.'s behavior?

I hope that I have not offended anyone by sending this but I hope this came as an enlightenment.......

"Can't we all just get along?"

Go Bears!!!!!!! :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 30, 2005, 03:25:09 PM
I think this is one of the most insightful posts I have seen all year.  I am not exactly sure what soulsenda was saying becuase I have not been on in a while but I beleive the rest of black panthers post was great. 

Other posters come on here and talk and talk about how our conference is weak.  Obviously our post season record is sad, but that is because we are constantly being matched up with some of the best teams in the country.  La-X had a lot of class after they beat us in the playoffs and they were a far better team than AUG. 

I don't understand where all of this hatred comes from for the IBFC.  I hope everyone who comes on here thumping their chest feels better about themselves.  We still love the game, stay on your own website and stroke eachother off while you talk about how great your conference is because 44-7 isnt all that impressive either.  YOUR ALL PLAYING DIVISION III, GET OVER YOURSELF.

I do not want to offend the guys who come on here and understand the fact that we are playing the same game, it is great to see there are still people who are intelligent out there. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 30, 2005, 03:31:52 PM
I don't see Mount Union gloating over their win on the CCIW site. Interesting....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 30, 2005, 07:08:05 PM
Maddog: We had a great rep for the playoffs.....ha right 44-7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 30, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
Fat-Azz what is your point on the rep 44-7?????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 30, 2005, 11:46:21 PM
Point is you said they would,  after AU went last year you said that lakeland would be a  better rep......by the way cute smiley
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 01, 2005, 10:42:02 AM
   Finally!   Somebody, somewhere posted the
   IBFC All conference awards on the D3 web-site (press release).
   I`ve been around for a fair amount of time and
   this is the FIRST time this has been done. Most of the time you have a hard enough time finding it on the IBFC site or even posted in a timely manner.
  SID`s are you listening?
   Nice to see the guys selected get noticed by all   
    who care to check it out.....on the big stage.
    Congradulations to all selected.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 01, 2005, 08:19:28 PM
First Fat-Azz Lakeland was the BEST rep from the conference to represent us. Second, get the facts WHEN your conference player of the year is OUT WITH A BROKEN LEG, your chances diwndle for a victory. Having said that he(your conference player of the year) goes in the second half, again broken leg and all, and OUT THROWS both starters for the game in yards and TD's. I'd say we were represented very well. Had he started like someone else posted WHO no's what the out come might had been. We will never NO!. I will say this, it take guts and balls to play with a broken leg so that your conference won't be let down.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on December 02, 2005, 10:43:13 AM
AZZ wipe-
Maddog is right. - AU was the right team to represent in '04 and LAKE was the right team to represent this year. Maddog doesn't have to defend the courage, guts and heart of his son. All of us in the IBFC respect that young man and his ability. Would it have been a different game if Ryan was healthy - no doubt about it. Do we say different things during the year to support our teams and players - no doubt about it. But in the end this conference supports its REP win or lose. Merry Christmas Azz wipe.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on December 02, 2005, 01:15:31 PM
Maddog8

i have to agree with you on the lakeland call but i felt concordia wisc should've been in place of au a year ago.    no offense to the au players and staff but (con wisc) had the perfect personnel for the perfect offensive scheme a year ago.  defensively au was inferior to the other but both had decent showings against comparative competition.

  Personally i evaluate the strength of a team through their defensive unit.  let me clear, statistics mean absolutely nothing!!!!  when given the opportunity the "better" team capitalize.........
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on December 02, 2005, 04:19:48 PM
Thank you for your disapproval Karma Cops, heres wishing you and yours a safe holiday season and a happy new year!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 02, 2005, 05:04:15 PM
For one...I was not questioning his son...I was questioning the talk about AU after last year.....by one maddog,
Black Panther...How do you figure....AU's defense could not have been inferior.....their defense beat CUW remember?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 03, 2005, 03:45:08 AM
I think maurie shouldnt have been player of the year...but i can not even come close to getting myself to deny that he would have been a huge difference in a playoff game....Auggy undoubtedly study him and game planned all week only to get an early christmas present....i think there are many better athelets in this conference than in many of the greats maurie being on of them...our lines dont match as a whole...ppl may say im wrong but im not...we dont have the big ones others do...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on December 04, 2005, 09:27:01 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on December 03, 2005, 03:45:08 AM
I think maurie shouldnt have been player of the year...but i can not even come close to getting myself to deny that he would have been a huge difference in a playoff game....Auggy undoubtedly study him and game planned all week only to get an early christmas present....i think there are many better athelets in this conference than in many of the greats maurie being on of them...our lines dont match as a whole...ppl may say im wrong but im not...we dont have the big ones others do...

What on earth are you getting at boyo? I think you need to go back to school and learn how to write.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on December 05, 2005, 09:07:00 AM
What's the deal with these "karma" points?  If that's what i'm being judged on then i'm doing a pretty bad job.  So far i'm -3 in the hole.  Can anyone help a brother out?  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 05, 2005, 01:28:56 PM
Sotha sil I have to agree with madfrog, where are you going with you comments, they make no sence!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 05, 2005, 01:56:35 PM
lol, sorry I was in a rush to go to bed.....I believe other conferences as a whole are better than ours....but many (not all) of our skill players are some of the best in the country...but our lines d and o dont match up in size and strenff...better? plus i was trying to give your son a little props bc i kinda downed him lately bc of who I thought was player of the year...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on December 06, 2005, 09:27:18 AM
FatalImpact

inferior was a wrong choice of word.  Granted both teams had a difficult schedule but after watching au against smaller opponents their defense allowed those teams to remain in the game where Conc Wisc. put them away early and never looked back....     

That's the mark of a good team.  How well the defense set the tempo for the game.  Overall the IBFC was down a year ago so it's hard to compare the top dog performances in head to head competition.  Those tougher teams (Con Wisc, AU and Lake) only prepared for their competitors that week with the hope of another team knocking them off.  kinda like using there opponents' schedule as a defender within the race.  Schedule wise Concordia played a tougher opening compared to AU's.   So whose to say that concordia didn't sustained key injuries prior to meeting AU.  Also keep in mind roster numbers....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: red99 on December 06, 2005, 03:09:19 PM
Any word on who will be named head coach at CURF? The job is no longer posted on the NCAA page.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 07, 2005, 08:21:06 AM
Quote from: Black Panther on December 05, 2005, 09:07:00 AM
What's the deal with these "karma" points?  If that's what i'm being judged on then i'm doing a pretty bad job.  So far i'm -3 in the hole.  Can anyone help a brother out?  :)

Go read the FAQ's for the answer!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 07, 2005, 02:05:18 PM
WHOA WHOA WHOA.........Black Panther what in the hell are you talking about, we were destroying the other teams, we never let any of the teams of the schedule stay close with us
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on December 07, 2005, 02:05:31 PM
Thanks for the infor SouelMan!  

Who or what kind of guy is going to take over that program?

 It's a beautiful campus to sell but it's going to take a huge person to take on that program.  

Overall that school will survive but it's the "KIDS" I feel sorry for.  For the administration to fire the enitire staff and AD show's no respect for those student- athletes and their parents(who's paying their tuition).......  I believe the adminstrators are the ones who should be reprimanded for their insubordination in hiring procedures.   None of this would've happened if these adminstrators looked beyond the "good ol' boy" system.  

In short, the school will always get paid but the kids will continue to suffer until they (the adminstrators) put together a hiring committee consisting of former athletes, human resource staff, support staff, alumni and parents.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 10, 2005, 03:50:55 PM
   Div 3 Champs (will be)  UW-WhiteWater.
    Mount Union is good no doubt but i like
   UW-WW besides they kicked the crap out of
    Lakeland.  Sorry. Maddog. :D
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 10, 2005, 04:24:02 PM
Hey right now they are kicking the crap out of Wesley. At this rate they will beat Wesley worse than Lakeland.

Congrats to Benton, and Van de loo for being first team all region, Vandlen and Mills for second team all region
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on December 10, 2005, 09:40:08 PM
White-Water would beat Illini-Badger all-conference team easy..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 11, 2005, 06:03:22 AM
and now he's endorsing WW.... ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 12, 2005, 01:05:51 PM
Red 99-

CURF is hoping to hire a new head coach by January.  As of now only 1 person has been interviewed, the offensive coordinator from John Carroll.  As for the interviews to take place this week, I know one was a head football coach from a nearby high school, some others from other colleges, but other than that, I am not to sure.

And with the job being taken off the NCAA page, I couldn't tell you if they have hired someone yet, but many seemed to like the guy from JC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 12, 2005, 08:25:40 PM
madfrog-

Im going to disagree with you when you said that UW-Whitewater would beat the all Illini Badger Team EASILY

For starters, immanuel mills and peter ereg running behind the best 5 lineman in our conference, complimented with mauri, a third running threat, who would be backed up by hornung.  The dline would consist of benton, and 91, 92 from conc wis (not sure their names, sorry) LB's would be van de loo, tate from AU, WR's would be very good, folliard and macarthur white and sergo(actually in his position for once). an allamerican db from AU and they say the other guy is just as good if not better. I agree we dont have the best teams in the country but to say UW-W would easily beat our all star team is not a fair statement.  And im sure im missing players from other teams that arent coming to mind right now.  I think that you would be amazed at how good our all star team might actually be.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 13, 2005, 01:03:09 AM
BuFan-

I am going to have to agree with madfrog on this one.  But not only Whitewater would be able to beat our all conference team, Mt. Union, Linfield, and maybe some others could as well.  Lets face it, the best we have to offer, probably wouldnt even start at the "bigtime" D-III programs like Linfield and Mt. Union.  Nothing wrong with that, we just have an inferior conference right now, maybe in time the IBFC will start to get better, but as of right now, the powerhouse schools could beat our all conference team with the rosters they have in place right now.  Would it be a blowout? Would they beat our all conference team EASILY?  I dont think so, but the score wouldnt be close by any means.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 13, 2005, 01:17:43 AM
Does anyone remember when the College All-stars played the NFL champions prior to the next season? Now, no one in their right mind would think they would stand a chance, right? But, wasn't it in '67 or '68 when they did just that and beat the Packers? I think that was the end of that series because Lombardi was so angry with losing that game  :-[  Maybe some out there knows more about this then I do. The conference all-stairs certainly would have a great chance to win because not many people would think they could. But, we will never know, now will we???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 13, 2005, 05:05:46 PM
I noticed Bufan replaced Collier with Sergo on the team that would face WW...ouch lol guess three years in a row still isnt good enough for the BU guys
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 13, 2005, 05:12:53 PM
Sorry, I am a CUW guy..i just realized he bumped down the reciever from MAC too...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 13, 2005, 08:23:39 PM
baseman1 this is still D-III not D-I, so let's not get too carried away about how much better UW-Whitewater's team overall would be compared to an IBC all star team.  These guys are very good ball players and many of them would compete if not start for anyone of those big time programs you mentioned.  Your making it sound like the 'bigtime' D-III programs are loaded full of potential NFL ball players which they are not.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 13, 2005, 09:00:55 PM
Baseman- clarify by waht you mean when you say.. "They wouldnt beat us easily, but the score wouldn't be close by any means?" 

Sotha sil - Also, I did say that I may have left out some players, and Collier was one of them I guess.  But seeing collier play the last couple years Im still taking Joe because im bias, and have seen him do some unbelievable things in practice and games.  And i dont count any player from Macmurray except Ereg and maybe the QB because i dont like the rest of the team.  So they are all disqualified. that was a joke.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 13, 2005, 10:09:41 PM
I agree about the MAC thing....it is hard to have respect for a team that acts the way they do...but i thought i heard their coach got fired and some of the things they did obvisouly came from top to bottom
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on December 14, 2005, 12:58:23 AM
TO:  SeoulGuy,
The old College AllStar Game went away for a couple of reasons. First, the top college players were getting big money contracts from the NFL now and the team owners had no intention of their future stars getting creamed (maybe permantely) in a meaningless game.  Second, players were just as aware of possible career ending injuries as were the team owners.  Mutual admiration for the dollar ended the game.  As far as Lombardi was concerned (remember he hated rookies) he had no intention of having on of his starters injured by some young bonehead college boy trying to show off on national tv.  The end of that game was no suprise and was just another change in the game (i.e. NFL-AFL merger) soon followed.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 14, 2005, 01:39:16 PM
When did I say anything about these bigtime D-III players going to the NFL??  And a couple D-III players do sign FA contracts (Blake Elliot - St. John's an example). 

I think maybe a couple out of the group would start, possibly a couple of DBs, but other than that, our conference team would have a tough time at the top teir schools (linfield, Mt. Union, etc...)  Alot of our Conference team is made up of Lakeland players right?  Whitewater kicked the crap out of them 73-12, you think Mauiri could start over Brett Elliot at Linfield, or Mike Jorris from Mt. Union?  Linfield has a Pro Prospect at WR in Casey Allen, you think Joe Folliard could compete with him? Think about the competition they face every week, they make teams that would beat the crap out of Lakeland or CUW look foolish. 

And what I mean by "They wouldnt beat us easily, but the score wouldn't be close by any means?" is that the score would be around 21-7, 21-10, somewhere in that range.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 15, 2005, 12:24:44 AM
Okay you did not say they were going to the NFL, but you were making it sound like every player on their roster is light years ahead of the IBC's all-star team talent. 

And yes there are D-III players that do sign contracts, but very few stay very long or have much of an impact at all.

I agree with your later score though, it does sound more reasonable.   After all if IBC AS were to suit up against a UW-Whitewater or Mt. Union I feel that UW or MU would win, one because thier group of guys have been playing together longer and no how to work together better as a cohesive unit rather than an all-star team that has just been recently assembled.

Whatever happened to "Thunder" Dave Sunseri?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 15, 2005, 06:07:14 PM
Baseman101, First Ryan did produce over 300+yrds total offense against Whitewater, which is clearly the best team in DIII, more than 99 % of the teams that played them this year, Second over Elliot he would definately compete, Jorris he would start over. Remember Ryan did get a scholarship to Saginaw Valley the 11 ranked division II team in the country, choose to leave for a better education and more playing time as a Freshman. He would have easily started at Saginaw this year had he not left. He loved Lakeland and still does! And the name is spelled MAIURI. He is also going to the combine but were shotting for CFL or ARENA. That is where he will have his best opportunities being only 6.0 most NFL QB's are 6.3-6.5 in hgt. I say Whitewater by 17 Sat. As for Lakeland at least they have balls to compete against high power teams like Whitewater and Carthage. Again Whitewaters enrollment is what 15,000 students not like Lakeland at 1,000 students.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on December 15, 2005, 09:14:24 PM
Maddog:
If your son is interested in trying out to play either area or CFL I have a friend who is a small time sports agent. He works primarily in the CFL and arena.  One of his main clients is Chad Johnson's younger brother who is on the Chicago Rush.  Let me know and I'll give you his contact info.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 15, 2005, 09:32:23 PM
augiedogie, call me on my cell 586-201-1341 thanks
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 16, 2005, 03:18:03 AM
ENOUGH, STOP......I can't take it anymore of hearing his stats, it's old
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 16, 2005, 10:00:15 AM
Maddod8:  You said in part,".............300 + yards."
   I know your a modest guy so let me set the record straight. 
   Your son had .........304 total yds. A good day
   by any standard.  Good luck to him in his future
    endeavors.
   When you look back on that game you can say
   proudly that he had a really good game against
   (probably) the National Champs which, by the
   way, beat the crap out of Lakeland.  73 to
   something. Something meaning, not enough. ;D

    Happy Holidays( Merry Christmas to those not
    offended) to you and your family as well as
    all the folks that post. 
 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 16, 2005, 02:30:07 PM
why does eveyone hate this mac shcool? just wondering, because i have been to some of thier games and saw a team that just had some issues to work out thats all, plus with having new coaches and a new defense of course they are going to be frustrated.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 16, 2005, 03:02:46 PM
Quote from: nebraskavolleyball on December 16, 2005, 02:30:07 PM
why does eveyone hate this mac shcool? just wondering, because i have been to some of thier games and saw a team that just had some issues to work out thats all, plus with having new coaches and a new defense of course they are going to be frustrated.

  I don`t know about the "hate" part but their head-coach(now) has been there for about 7 or 8 years.
  3 years as head coach.
   I believe there are only a couple of "new" coaches
   As to your question,"Why does everyone hate
   this Mac school ?" i`m sure others will offer their opinions. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 17, 2005, 03:19:00 AM
I will reply to that nebraska volleyball

There are a lot of issues on the field that is hard for fans and coaches to see.  For example, even when they are losing, they were still talking mass amounts of trash.  I dont know if it was a defense mechanism or what, but when if I were to talk trash before a game, then get blasted and continue to talk when you're down by 35, I mean come on. And there was an issue in the Lakeland-Mac game that I am unsure about but Im sure someone knows on here
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 17, 2005, 01:35:10 PM
ya i heard about that game and from what i heard is that some lakeland "SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER" was going through when they were shaking hands calling everybody a b@tch or that they suck and just really saying some awful things.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 17, 2005, 03:22:48 PM
Sorry but i know some of the players from lakeland and mac(sorry i will not say any names) and they each said that it was a very intense game and they all let themselves lose their cool and act like idiots.  I would also like to say that the quarterback from lakeland really didnt deserve the player of the year, i believe that the greenville team should have gotten it for doing such a great job this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 17, 2005, 08:12:21 PM
Dude, Maddog,

Brett Elliot started at Utah until he got hurt and transferred into Linfield.  If you honestly think your son can start at Utah, than more power to you.  I saw your son play first hand, actually playing against him, and seeing him play at Augustana.  And by no means would he beat out Elliot at Linfield.

Maybe you are giving your son to much credit, as possibly some would agree with me (or not  :))

If Ryan is good enough to make it into the Arena league, then I will believe him to be that best QB in D-III, since you said "over Elliot he would definately compete", who just won a little thing called the Gagliardi Trophy.

And another thing, you said:
"He is also going to the combine but were shotting for CFL or ARENA."

We're????  Don't tell me your one of THOSE dads, the ones obsessed with how and what their son does.  Who runs out onto the field to drop kick the ref after a bad call during their sons little league game...................would be fun to see that though!!!!!

And, I will spell it right from now on, MAIURI.........for some reason Mauiri looked like the right way, either way, apoligies for messing that up,  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 18, 2005, 08:46:11 AM
 Two really good football teams playing for a National Championship......... and Mount Union gets the "W".  Congradulations to Mount Union.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 18, 2005, 07:13:08 PM
Baseman, actually I am going for my agents lic. and feel that Ryan has a better shot at the CFL or ARENA before trying for the NFL. His size is against him for a QB, but with alittle more experience in the ARENA or CFL he could maybe make a move. Either way he keeps playing. As for one of those DAD's well I am proud of his accomplishments buts I just LOVE FOOTBALL. As for competing against Elliot no doubt. I did not say he would start over him. As for Greenville stoping Ryan well he had a broken leg for the final 3 Quarters and still beat u guys. Seasons over move on.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on December 19, 2005, 06:10:43 PM
I see that Lakeland got three votes in the top 25 in the final week. I'm sure we'll hear more bitching about how Lakeland isn't qualified to be there either.

But if they're not, why were they 7-0 in conference again? If you're going to call them lucky, surely they would've been UNlucky at some point in conference. Nobody's lucky for an entire season.

As the conference representative in the playoffs, they're as qualified as any of the other teams in the top 25, so hopefully this stops any bitching from CUW about getting screwed over.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 19, 2005, 06:32:43 PM
I am not from CUW, but I will still bitch about it.

I also noticed the 3 votes by Lakeland

So what does 7-0 mean in the worst conference in D-III?  Absolutely nothing, 6 of the 7 teams they beat were 500 or below, with Greenville a 4-6 team only losing to them by 7, wow, that's pretty amazing.

Although Greenville was very much improved for the 2005 season.

Ok sure, I will give Lakeland some credit, their schedule was tough with Carthage (who werent as good this year) and Whitewater, then Augustana in the playoffs, but those teams proved exactly why Lakeland or anyone else in the IBFC doesn't belong anywhere near the top 25 in D-III football.

And to all the CUW people, the outcome would have been the same if CUW instead of Lakeland represented the IBFC and took the trip to Augustana.  Folks, no more talk of IBFC teams being in the top 25, we have a long way to go before we can contend for a playoff win.

Although if we do get a player in the Arena league, that would be very good for our conference to have someone advance to the next level.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 19, 2005, 07:40:48 PM
I think ryan actually has a very legit shot at the CFL or some level of arena.  As you are probably aware, and some people may not be, that there are I believe 4 levels of arena football, then the European Leage then maybe the NFL.  So basically the odds are something like 10,000 to 1.  He actually may be a very good QB at the arena leage level, though it is doudtful to reach arena 1 or 2, the two lower levels are more likely scanerios.

On another note, how crazy is it that Elliot beat out Alex Smith their freshman year there. Or whatever happened, something along those lines.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 19, 2005, 10:05:40 PM
Um i do believe there is some one in the arena league, he is from macmurray because my brother talks about him all the time his name is frank carter and he is playing for the las vegas team i do believe, so ya this conference can produce next level guys.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 20, 2005, 11:12:19 AM
Baseball101, listen first your not even in the same class as Sergo, so stop the talk because you can't back it. cathing a TD against Lakelands 5 string does not put you in this class. NOW if you worked at football as hard as you talk s**t you could maybe be second string on CURF's team. In fact did you even start for CURF?. It would take a person like you 2 life times to be equivelant to Ryan. One thing in life you need to learn or you will struggle in the REAL WORLD like you did in football is think before you speak and be possitive towards others NOT always negitive. And we know your not from CUW because you would not of made there team, Hell second string on CURF  I am suprised the coaches even kept you around that long. Have a merry Christmas and New Year, Resolution change your attitude and thoughts towards others, you might become a better boy from it!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 20, 2005, 04:11:42 PM
Maddog-

haha, actually you are right, I am not in the same class as Sergo, because he still has one more year in D-III football, I graduate in May, so you are right on that. 

And those CURF comments, I will save my thoughts on those until the end of this post. 

First off, yes, I have many thoughts and comments, many of them negative, but if they are the truth, then I don't care if they are bashing someone, negative or what.  I don't think I have posted anything untrue on this forum yet, all my predictions have been true about games, and I stand behind everything I have said. 

2 lifetimes??? you are talking like your son is some kind of superstar.  Ok sure, he was recruited by Siginaw a D-II school, which has very good competition, and would have started, or so you say.  But still, 2 lifetimes??  That's pretty harsh.  He is a good D-III starting QB, but anything higher than D-II may be pushing it.  But hey, have him prove me wrong, and make an Arena team, shove it in my face.  I would love to say I played against someone in the Arena League.

Myself and another STARTING receiver........yes I said STARTING were recruited by CUW out of high school back in 2001 and 2002.  Since we went to private Christian high schools, and were succesful at football, we were recruited by most of the Concordias.  The other receiver went to CURF to get playing time right away since they werent having much success, and I stayed back home to go to a State school for the first couple years. (which I have my reasons for).  To make a long story short, I went to CURF last year to help out a team that won like 4 games in their last 6 years or something like that, plus to get ALOT of playing time.  We never had GREAT years at receiver because our QB was running for his life about 95% of the time, but I consider 20 yds/catch alright for our QB getting sacked 50 times a season.  Any receiver at CURF, no matter who played their, even if it was Sergo, Folliard, or White, or whoever you want to put in there, would not have had great years as a receiver at CURF.  I dont see D-III football as anything big, I see it as more fun than anything, it was something to pass the time around classes.  So maybe football wasnt a priority to me, school is much more important than football ever was.  Does playing D-III football matter in a job interview?  Don't think so, so I am going to brush off your comment about working harder at football.  I am in school for one reason, to graduate, football was just something on the side, plus it got me in great shape.

So don't tell me other players are 2 lifetimes ahead of me, it does depend on what school you play for.  And dont tell me about struggling in the REAL WORLD, we all can't work at Ford plants the rest of our lives like you. 

And you Maddog have a Merry Christmas, and  a happy New Year.  And thank you for saying Merry Christmas, and not "Happy Holidays".

Wow, I am also very harsh in my post.......sorry
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 20, 2005, 10:32:11 PM
Wow, you guys aren't being very friendly.  What a terrible blow about the place of employment.  That was uncalled for I think.  And if I may steal a line from "Good Will Hunting,"  he is producing/fixing a car for someone else to get to work in the morning, that IS a  pretty honorable profession, in all honesty.  Not my choice to work cause I know nothing about it at all, but still highly respectable.  And how do you know he doesn't RUN the entire plant, or something???

Baseman, you are slamming a grown man who has lived a life twice that of yours.  And he will always be that more knowledgable than you.  There are two BU alum's in the arena leagues, Josh McMillan i believe his name is plays for the Rush, and Chuck Verdone has played for the Omaha Beef, a team obviously located in Nebraska.  A lower level team, but Arena nonetheless.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on December 20, 2005, 11:53:22 PM
Fluffypuppy I agree whatever did happen to "Thunder" Dave Sunseri but I have found out.  Last heard he was coaching not special teams but more specifically "wedgebuster" for the Park Ridge Falcons. 
Next order of business...
Gomer Pyle
It is spelled congraTulations.  Don't be swayed by the banners at your kid's graDuation party.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 21, 2005, 12:39:43 AM
Hey, he takes shots, I will take shots.

It's a give and take relationship between Maddog and myself here on the D3 forums.

For some reason I don't think he runs the whole plant, but hey if he does, my apologies.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 21, 2005, 12:52:21 AM
I just found out something very interesting, the kicker for the dolphins, went to mac.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 21, 2005, 01:12:20 AM
I thought Mare went to Greenville.

Hmm, Thunder Dave Sunseri, a wedgebuster coach, it was meant to be.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 21, 2005, 02:08:24 AM
Didn't Mare go to Syracuse???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 21, 2005, 07:31:59 AM
Quote from: disgracetofball on December 20, 2005, 11:53:22 PM
Fluffypuppy I agree whatever did happen to "Thunder" Dave Sunseri but I have found out.  Last heard he was coaching not special teams but more specifically "wedgebuster" for the Park Ridge Falcons. 
Next order of business...
Gomer Pyle
It is spelled congraTulations.  Don't be swayed by the banners at your kid's graDuation party.

  All these years..........who would have thought?
  You should go far in life if your arrogance doesn`t
  trip you up first. 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on December 21, 2005, 10:24:52 AM
Olindo Mare started out a Syracuse then tranfered to Mac.  He graduated from Mac in 95" and he is in there Hall of Fame.  I wounldn't admit to going to Mac either.  Just kidding!  Frank Carter was and still is a stud.  My first IBC game was against Mac his Sr. year.  He was huge and fast.  We still beat them, but he was a dude.

Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on December 21, 2005, 12:23:19 PM
Speaking of all this Arena League talk, former Lakeland QB Brent Luebke signed with the af2 Green Bay Blizzard. Some of you also may know him as the quarterbacks coach for the Muskies last year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 21, 2005, 01:32:58 PM
What posseses someone to start at a D-I school in NY, then transfer to a D-III school all the way in IL to kick? 

Doesn't make the most sense to me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on December 21, 2005, 04:26:02 PM
After further research:  Olindo Mare was listed as a Mac grad in 95.  On the Mac site it says he went on to make the Giants practice squad in 96 and then on to the Dolphins.  On the Syracuse site it says he played on the team in 96.  He wasn't on the team before that.  It is possible that he did his undergrad at Mac (I think he played soccer at first)then went to Syracuse for masters or continude education, had a year of eligiblity left and played at Syracuse as a walk-on.  I don't know how else to explain it.  Both schools claim him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 21, 2005, 04:58:26 PM
I thought he went to Syracuse first, and then MAC, but it makes more sense the other way around.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on December 21, 2005, 05:35:21 PM
Mare went to Mac before Syracuse and played both soccer and football.  I remember coach Hensley telling a story about how they lost a game because he was at a soccer game....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 21, 2005, 06:21:30 PM
 Guys, the Mac football site is a mess. Has been all year but Olindo Mare is listed in the : Single Season Record section.  His "only" entries are for the year 1991.  I know because i just looked them up. 
 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2005, 09:06:50 PM
He went to MacMurray first, then to Syracuse.

He did not go to Greenville.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 21, 2005, 11:53:36 PM
Thank you for clearing that up for me, now atleast Mac has something to be proud of, if it is still only for a year with him, and the two years as conference champs.  But hopefully that next year they win the conference title, that would be something to see again, or hey, maybe greenville will win it, who knows.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 22, 2005, 06:48:35 AM
Wait, I'm confused...

When did he go to Greenville then, if he went to Mac and then Syracuse?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on December 22, 2005, 11:39:23 AM
Played his final two years at Syracuse (1994-95) after attending MacMurray College in Jacksonville, Ill. and Valencia Community College in Orlando, Fla, where he did not play football ... In his two years at SU, hit on 15 of 24 field goals and 52 of 53 PATs ... Was a second-team All-Big East choice as a senior for the Orangemen ... Led the conference in scoring with 74 points and had 84.5 percent of his kickoffs travel into the end zone with 67.2 percent going for touchbacks ... Converted 12-17 field goals including a long of 50, and 38-39 PATs ... As a junior, 74 percent of his kickoffs went into the end zone, while 54 percent were not returned ... Majored in speech communications.

From the Miami Dolphins website..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 23, 2005, 11:37:31 PM
So techinally Mac is the only college to have produced a star athlete out of the IBC, wow they must be doing something right there.

Oh, maddog, how did your girlfriends son do this year. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 26, 2005, 10:53:28 PM
I hope everybody had a very merry christmas, and a happy new year.  As for the next season who will win this upcoming year, my money is on greenville.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on December 27, 2005, 03:41:33 AM
QuoteSo techinally Mac is the only college to have produced a star athlete out of the IBC, wow they must be doing something right there.

CUW, Greenville and Lakeland put a number of great atheltes out there.  Many of which still hold NAIA records. 

Everyone is so wrapped up in the 'pro' status that they forget Navarro (Lakeland) still holds a number of passing records for DIII.  He was a part of an awesome team that did not get a bid to the tourney (after going 18-0 at the time, if I am not mistakin') cause of an 8-2 Wittenburg team.

The IBC did not have the auto bid at the time and Witt had earned it after running through a gaunlet (arguedably) stronger then Lakeleand at the time.

I remember seeing that team from the late 90's and I believe some great athletes are over looked from that team.

Don't get me wrong, AU and BU at that time and in the early 2000's had some good studs as well, especially at D Line, th RB position and DB position, but now we are reduced to yelling about kickers?!?

Let's get real and say we have a ways to go and prove it on the field.  AU came the closest 2 years ago in a tough OT loss but they are not on here whinning!  They put it on the field and nearly beat an NCAC Champ!  I can guarrantee they are in the weight room preparring for next years opportunity!!

Support your team, Support your school, and defend your conference as best you can with their teams' play.  Stop this grabbing at straws for credibilaty by an attempt of salvaging something from insulting other players or claiming this guy is going pro for whoever or whatever has been the case.  It will be seen on TV or in the papers when it is confirmed if some one makes it, so let them chase the dream, like many before, without scorn or rumor.

Just an ol' former IBC player's view of things.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 27, 2005, 01:47:45 PM
right on sir,
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 04, 2006, 12:11:19 AM
looks like im the first post in 2006....NOICE!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 04, 2006, 12:14:14 AM
that moving/scrolling thing didnt work out for me...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on January 05, 2006, 12:50:03 AM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on January 04, 2006, 12:14:14 AM
that moving/scrolling thing didnt work out for me...

You usually have to put the tags before and after whatever it is you're trying to modify.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 05, 2006, 01:13:38 AM
ahhhh....nooice!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 05, 2006, 01:20:50 AM
Emilio!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on January 05, 2006, 07:36:43 AM
 Now that`s a first.   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on January 06, 2006, 05:09:04 PM
Yes, that pretty much explains the credibility of his name.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on January 07, 2006, 04:21:27 AM
Honestly, it's a waste of 4 post spaces.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on January 15, 2006, 01:32:20 AM
Im just wondering how the CURF players feel about the new coaching staff?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on January 17, 2006, 10:15:36 AM
From what I have heard he is an awesome guy/coach, and wants good things to happen quick.  So hopefully he can get some actual recruiting done, and turn this team around.  But, that's just what I have heard, someone who is actually playing this next year could probably give more info.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on January 18, 2006, 10:08:44 AM
Does this new coach have a new staff in place? What happened to the former coaches??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on January 18, 2006, 08:00:31 PM
Well, I know RF got a new defensive backs coach...he is probably the lamest guy ever to come through football....and he will here it from his old team on saturdays....we got your back even though we are gonna go harder on your team bc you are across the sideline....No one here at CUW has any intent on making your job easy boy...but we wish you the best luck...great guy coming down to coach at RF
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 19, 2006, 12:26:58 AM
We are all really excited about our new coach.  He is a young guy but he is bringing alot of spark to the program, which is something that the Cougars have been lacking for quite some time.  We already have an offensive coordinator and a strength and conditioning coach, something else we have not had for years, if at all.  We also are returning our Grad Assistant, he coached our receivers last year and eventually took over as co-offensive coordinator.  Sure, we may be taking a gamble at getting a young high school coach, but having formerly played here, he has alot of ties to alumni that are now coaches around the country.  As sotha sil said, we do have a defensive backs coach.  He played at CUW last year and Im not sure how, but he has a tie with our coaches.  I honestly dont think recruiting will be a problem.  He already is getting alot of guys from his high school here, and he also is going to tap into the Lutheran schools around the region, as well as all the public and catholic schools that we recruit at too.  These new coaches are excited about this chance and they have alot of fire and passion to turn this program around, which is something that hasn't really been prevalent in the past.  It may take a few years to turn this program into contenders, but CURF's time is coming and it is coming soon.  The new look Cougars are gonna be ready to fight in 2006, and we are also getting new jerseys....awwwww yeah!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on January 19, 2006, 01:57:03 AM
Thanks for the compliments sotha and the challenge I am going to work with the guys and get them ready for next year.  As for the connection the O coordinator is my bro and actually played at RF with the new Head Coach.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on January 19, 2006, 05:09:25 AM
falcsfb, best of luck at CURF, I can see this program turning around with talented players now coaching the game. God Bless you guys and go cougars. Besides losing players like baseman101 will only help your program, and keep the rif-raf about your team off this site.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on January 19, 2006, 10:15:09 AM
Awwww,  Maddog, I love you too.  Even though you just made fun of me, I forgive you.

Just met the new coach last night, and he seems like he has alot of spark and energy like Cougswillwin said.  I like to see the program hopefully taking a turn in the right direction.  And maybe this coach can stay around for awhile, considering we have had 4 in the past 5 years. 

Oh yeah, and how was waking up at 5:30 this morning??  But hey, it shows he wants you guys to work hard.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 19, 2006, 01:47:58 PM
Baseman201...waking up this morning was a blast!

Falcsfb...I met your bro the other day when he came down here...He is a big fan of the spread offense...im looking forward to that... I hope you'll be able to coach our DB's to cover me...hahaha j/k.  But really I'm looking forward to meeting you and can't wait for you all to get down here.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 19, 2006, 01:52:58 PM
Falcsfb...you going to be around for CIT next weekend?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on January 20, 2006, 10:18:37 AM
He will be there for sure...he has to dress up as freddy the falcon....so talk to the big bird at CIT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on January 23, 2006, 12:38:48 AM
Come On Guys, lets think with our heads and not our hearts!
I want CURF to be successful as much as anyone but if nothing else has been clarified in the last five years, the obvious lack of admin support for the program has been.  Hynes left because he saw the writing on the wall, Conwell didn't believe the writing untill it was too late (bless his heart and God be with him), and now they dip into the high school ranks for the sake of nostilgia.  Besides no area recruiting background or local hs pipeline he has to create a coaching staff (and we know how well paid they are).  Hey, I know they'll break our hearts again no matter how prepared we are, but just once I would like the school powers that be give a head coach and the kids a chance to play on a level surface with the other league leaders. GO COUGs......... :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on January 25, 2006, 11:54:52 AM
Thanks Maddog I appreciate it.  I look forward to meeting all the guys down there and getting started.  I believe I will be down there in February to get a tour. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on February 19, 2006, 01:18:25 PM
  Testing..............one, two, three.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 20, 2006, 09:49:42 AM
No Diggity....its been tooooooo quiet around here lately.  Here at CURF we would refer to this as being comatose cougars.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: pitbull on February 20, 2006, 12:07:21 PM
Cougars

Any word on the other assistant coach/track guy yet? Have they interviewed guys..or have they hired someone. Who is goin to be their assistant coaches???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 20, 2006, 11:49:28 PM
Well I assume most of you know that we have an offensive coordinator hired already.  Coach Janousky came with Coach Pries from Milwaukee Lutheran.  We are in the process of offering a defensive coordinator job to a guy from a D-1 AA school, I'm sorry I can't remember his name or what school he was at, oops.  I also know that Evan Janousky, former CUW Falcon DB, is trying to come on board to be the DB's coach.  We also kept our Grad Assistant, Doug Hageman, to coach the WR's.  Hageman took over the offensive coordinator position last year when our O-Coordinator Coach Todd Black left in the middle of the season.


We are all very excited and the student body is beginning to get interest in the upcoming football season.  I just want fall to roll around already and get out there to play some ball!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: pitbull on February 21, 2006, 09:51:19 AM
Why would a IAA guy go to Concordia??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on February 22, 2006, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: pitbull on February 21, 2006, 09:51:19 AM
Why would a IAA guy go to Concordia??

Pitbull: Make that a rhetorical question because this board is in "time out" mode.
  The guy from concordia is the lone exception. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gman on February 24, 2006, 12:42:26 PM
Concordia is a tough place.

I coach there in the 90's for Jim Braun...and we had a great staff here is where we currently are..

Jeff Monken--Navy
Adam Hollis--Darkmouth
Mark Reade--Rice
Jeremy Markham--Manchester
Mike Harkins--H.S. in NY (U of C, Johns Hopkins)
Anthony Grazzini--Elmhurst
Walt Whitehead--Wheaton
Mick Ewing--Retired
Chris Pagnugo--Retired

The school tried to do the Church Thing but the kids we needed went to CUW or C. U. Minn.

Third Tier kids...even synoyd kids wont win even in the IBC. 

If Lonnie is going to be successful it is going to have to be because of an administrative commitment

-Recruiting
-Financial Aid
-Coaches Pay

And he needs to hire a qualified staff...alot of slaps have filtered through in the last 10 years. 

by the way...Lonnie, you should have hired Joe Adam from Grand Valley State University.  He know a little about recruiting (Haper College Days, Video Editing--GVSU, and Winning--GVSU)

g

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on February 24, 2006, 02:27:12 PM
Does anyone know where Todd Black from CURF went??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on February 24, 2006, 02:47:26 PM
gomer pyle and pitbull:

While I certainly understand your point which is legit (i.e. why a I-AA coach would go to Concordia), indeed, there are some circumstances in which that occurs, such as family issues, regional location, and perhaps just plain opportunity.  Another current example is Scott Pethal who just took over the North Park job.  He was a stellar athlete at Adrian College, and was coaching at the Univ of Buffalo in Div I MAC the past few seasons.  It happens all the time.  Many DI coaches go to smaller schools for similar reasons, albeit most in the latter portions of their careers (ex. current NDSU coach, new LB assistant coach at Lake Forest (former NFL player), current Findlay Univ (DII) head coach, etc., etc.).  Just depends on the circumstances and what is right for that person and his family.


gman:
Thanks for the update info of your coaching staff.  It is always interesting to see where coaches move on to, especially you young coaches!  Certainly a lot of opportunities arise for many each year - everyone has to make their own choice.  I remember Coach Braun from the '80's.

I agree with you that it is a tough sell for some schools to field a program, even at the DIII level.   You are correct that administration has to make the commitment for recruiting student-athletes, financial aid, and certainly coaching salaries.  The latter is indeed difficult for most small schools.  However, these are not impossible challlenges to overcome as many small schools have proven it time and time again.  At least Concordia and similar schools continue the programs and they should for many reasons which I'll not go into here as many of us have had similar discussions regarding all this in past years (i.e. we won't revisit the Swarthemore debacle ;D).   But there is a place for some student-athletes at a school like Concordia.  Let's hope the new staff, with some new support/direction from the administration and alumni will be able to improve it to a next step.

BTW, where are you coaching at presently?   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on February 24, 2006, 11:44:36 PM
IBFC CONF. PLAYER OF YEAR, RYAN MAIURI, LAKELAND COLLEG SIGNS PRO CONTRACT WITH HAMBURG BLUE DEVILS, HAMBURG GERMANY
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 26, 2006, 03:01:16 AM
thats cool man
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 26, 2006, 03:03:01 AM
In regards to Todd Black, I dont know what happend to him.  He was a great coach, I loved having him as a coach.  I would like to keep in contact with him and probably should be, but I am slacking in doing that.  Anyways, he is a great guy and I was really sad to see him go.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 01, 2006, 12:44:06 AM
Yeah, Todd Black was an amazing person, and really made football fun to play.  I assume he teaches at Oak Park River Forest High school. 

Maddog8-

Damn, congratulations to your son, that's a pretty cool.  What league are they in?  Is it the big European league?  I don't know much about leagues over there, all I know are NFL, CFL and AFL.  Also they take their soccer to damn seriously.  Anyhow, congrats to Ryan again. 

Cougswillwin-

Yeah, I can't wait to see what you guys look like this year.  I see coach Pries with quality recruits coming in it seems like everyday, Conwell never did anything like that.  Hopefully you can pull off some wins, and have a succesful season.  Pries and the rest of the new coaches look like they care so far, maybe he can stay around for more than a year and actually build a succesful program.

GO COUGS!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 01, 2006, 03:01:33 AM
Baseman201, its the EFL (Europian Football League), they play 20 games and are aloowed to only recruit 4 American players per team. They are the feeder team to the NFL Europe Hamburg Sea Devils, who just signed Brock Berlin from the University of Miami. They play 20 games then their super bowl which is called the Euro Bowl against the top NFL Europe team. So exposure will be very high for him.  They are making him a Cornerback because of his speed and agility. They have not ruled out QB, just have a need for Defense, so we shall see how it goes. Like I told Ryan, worse senario is you will see all of Europe which many of us will never see, not a bad contract either. First game is in Italy April 16th. Will be a rough weekend seeing he fly's out Friday the 14th, then fly's ti Italy the 15th. He is projected to be the starting Cornerback, but the head coach said he will play receiver and running back and backup QB. He will also be running kicks and punts retirns.

Bobby Langston if you are ot there contact me about your future, I project YOU  as the conference player of the year and think that if anyone can make the NFL!! email me on personal web site maiurimartin@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 01, 2006, 03:17:10 PM
I see, so it's like the minor leagues in baseball pretty much, or AFL D-III or D-II.  Then hopefully work his way up to the NFL Europe league. 

I was actually wondering where Berlin went, and I guess know I now.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on March 02, 2006, 07:55:00 AM
Maddog - Kyle Krober former Greenville QB who graduated from GC in 2002 and then coached for 2 seasons (2004) his last season coaching there, played in the same league in 2003.  He played for the Tyrolean Raiders.  http://www.raiders.at
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on March 11, 2006, 12:27:37 PM
From the UWEC Blugold athletics website, regarding the head coach vacancy:

"The search and screen Committee has tabbed Lakeland College head coach Jim Zebrowski, Marietta College head coach Todd Glaser, University of Nebraska-Omaha associate head coach Lance Leipold and University of North Dakota associate head coach Chris Mussman as finalists. Those four will be on campus next week for interviews with the search and screen committee, team members, athletics staff and university administrators."
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 13, 2006, 03:01:58 AM
Fishguy, how's it going, It's great to see Coach "Z" getting the opportunities. The guy is a D-1 Coach and won't be long before he gets there. TOO MUCH TALENT at COACHING. He served Lakeland well and if he stays look out IBFC again. Personally I want to see this guy on the top. He has been the best thing that ever happen to Ryan and his development. This guy can COACH, TEACH, TRAIN and GET YOUR BUTT ON THE RIGHT TRACK. He's a Coach first but also a friend, father and most of all an INSPIRATIONAL LEADER. I personally would like to see him at the greatest D-1 school around "MICHIGAN" good luck coach "Z"
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on March 13, 2006, 11:30:05 AM
fishguy and maddog:

Oh my.  Some of those guys (Glaser and Zebrowski) have just been getting their current programs upward bound and toward the next level!  It must be difficult to consider "pulling up stakes" again so soon and moving elsewhere (I'm sure their wives will perhaps not be overly enthusiastic, but then again, most coaching wives are understanding, supportive and "know the stakes" when they say "I do" ;)).  It will be interesting to see who UWEC picks.

BTW, remind me please as I forgot or missed this - how did the UWEC hc postion become open?  As I recall, their prev hc took a DI assistant coaching position?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: youknowit on March 17, 2006, 07:41:07 PM
rumor has it that Joe " I ve been in school longer than most doctors" Sergo, has some how gotten another year of athletic eligibility.  This would be his fourth year of playing football at BU, he played one year at illinois wesleyen, then he played at harper.  How can this be?  Is he going to be back?  Normally he comes on here and makes a fool out of himself and his school anyway, but does anyone have any idea if this rumor is true? please explain
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on March 22, 2006, 10:27:03 AM
Just curious, Mad Dog and everyone out there, who do you think the best kicker in the IBFC is and why? Just trying to get a handle on it for next year. I was a college kicker and i like to know who is good and who is not. Also, if there were nay great performances, let me know. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 22, 2006, 05:21:05 PM
Joseph Sergo has been playing football for 6 years eh?? 

I never knew. 

Damn, he's been in school for so long, what in the heck is he majoring in?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 23, 2006, 06:25:44 AM
FBfan01, I am going to sya the best punter and kicker from what I observed last year regardless of the IBFC selections would have to be from Greenville, both punter and kicker. That is not to say that there were others very deserving. But my opinion would be the Greenville guys. As for my pick this year as player of the year "BOBBY LANGSTON" from CUW hands down. My Picks for the IBFC CROWN, 1) LAKELAND--THANKS THE LORD COACH 'Z' IS BACK FOR THIS CROWN
               2) CUW---THIS WILL BE THE GAME OF THE YEAR WITH LAKELAND
               3) GREENVILLE
               4) MacMURRY
               5) AURORA
               6) CURF
               7) BENNY
               8) EUREKA

AGAIN OPINIONS ARE LIKE A-HOLES WE ALL HAVE ONE.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on March 23, 2006, 11:05:17 AM
What about Mai from CUW? I hear he could really kick the ball. I also heard that he kicked 2 field goals against Greenville to tie, then win? Thats just what i hear. What do you think about him?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 24, 2006, 04:14:43 AM
EXCELLENT kicker, like I said many are deserving, and quit frankly Mai may end up the kicker of the year. Time will tell, but again to answer your question MIA from CUW is very deserving. Lots of great talent still in the IBFC. Actually Lakeland's kicker did an excellent job for us last year. if not for him we might still be in OT at CUW. Have a great day! :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on March 24, 2006, 10:41:11 AM
What makes you so sure that Lakeland will win conference this year? Cuw is looking for revenge and they have got some studs coming in. Even thought Mills is gone, he left a strong running crew behind, and the defense only lost one lineman. I think they are going to hand it to Lakeland this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 25, 2006, 04:57:35 AM
FBfan01, like I said this will be the game of the year in the IBFC, Lakeland is still very loaded as well, although I will say that CUW defense will be very tough to run and pass against. Again Langston will be the most dominate player in the conference to deal with. If he (Langston) can get his leadership in tune at the start of the season, they will be tough to beat. REMEMBER, Coach "Z" is back and he most definately is the best Coach in the IBFC. I gaurentee he will have his troops ready, promise. If Wilk is the starting QB, he has a great arm and is very accurate, running wise should have one of the best backfields in the IBFC and there lineman with HOMER leading the way will no doubt open hugh holes for them. THEY will have the best receiving core in the IBFC with Eric Royal and McArthur White a D-! transfer last year from NO. Ill. Defensively they will also have the best LB core in the conference from my point of view. I say it again this will be the desider for the IBFC. CUW vs LAKELAND
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on March 25, 2006, 12:16:07 PM
Well, lets take a look at CUW then  :).  Bobby Langston is a given.  The CUW defense returns nearly everyone.  We lost Two very good players a line man and a safety that were both 2nd team all conference.  Both positions SEEM to be getting filled nicely.  We boast the best D-line in the conference, two all conference linebackers led by first team all conference Scott Gehrke, and probably the most experianced defensive back group the IBFC has seen in a while.  On offense, three players return with multiple first team all conference honors.  John Mask heads the o-line with two first team all conference awards and is joined by two other all conference award winners.  At wide reciever, Jon Collier has three first team all conference awards and gets plenty of help from work horse Matt Meyer and a who would start at any other school in the conference in Taylor Siolka.  Mike Stienmetz shares time in the back field and as a reciever and has had two first team all conference selections.  Now, here is my wild card.  I think Aaron Gillespie who has spent his career behind Manny Mills will step into a starters roll at tail back and be the best player in the conference.  He has two second team all conference picks and has amazing power for a small frame.  Plus, he is pound for pound the toughest and best blocker this conference has.  Never said CUW was better, but with the talent coming back?????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on March 25, 2006, 03:55:11 PM
Just a little side note...CURF hired a defnesive coordinator in the begining of March.  We hired Coach Josh Gehring, from Missouri State University.  Gehring played quarterback for two European first-division teams, guiding Esjberg, Denmark during the 1999 season and Ystad, Sweden the following season. Gehring took the Ystad franchise from an 0-10 record in 1999 to an 8-2 record and second-place finish. He would return to the states to coach quarterbacks and receivers at Manchester (Ind.) College (2002-03), tight ends at Western Kentucky University (2004) and running backs at Missouri State University (2005) before coming to River Forest.

Now, we have 3 full-time coaches in place, Head Coach Pries, Offensive Coordinator Janouski, and Defensive Coordinator Gehring.  Add to that our Graduate Assistant Doug Hageman, who last year was co-offensive coordinator and, is back and coaching the recievers, and there has been talk of getting Janouski's brother, former CUW safety, to help coach our DB's.

We are all very excited here at CURF as our program is taking full shape and we are underway with our spring ball pracitces.  All the guys are excited and there is a new sense of dedication and sacrafice in us.

Anyways...hope you all are having a good spring and hope your brackets arent suffering too badly.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 26, 2006, 11:47:07 AM
sotha sil, this game will be a 3 point game and desided by the QB's and Kickers, edge to CUW in Kickers with Mai, counter edge to Lakeland with there QB, but ever so slight of an edge. Collier is the TOP Receiver coming back with a battle for that honor by Royal and White, BOTTOLINE: The key for CUW is to out Coach "Z", key for Lakeland is to STOP Bobby Langston! WILL be the GAME of the YEAR for the IBFC


cougerwillwin,  YOU BECHA, CURF will move up the ranks this season, bank on it, the attitude must change and they will improve greatly,but only if the ATTITUDE CHANGES. So your desire to win.  I say a 500 season.

Mac will improve with the great Coaches from SAGINAW VALLEY, D-II, there improvement must come as a TEAM not just individuals, and most of all WILL THE PLAYERS LISTEN TO THEIR COACHES!!!!!!!!!

GREENVILLE, move to number 3 power with their Coaching and all around team effort and system, MUST GET A NEW FIELD, CONCRETE BRAKES LEGS,

Eureka, learn to lose before YOU win. YOUR leadership reflects your athletes.NEVER QUIT BECAUSE YOUR LOSING one thing I will say CURF did NOT DO. Second teamers have a right to SCORE. LEADERSHIP REFLECTS ATTITUDE==ATTITUDE REFLECTS YOUR PLAY!!!!!!


Aurora---HORNANG is the KEY, QB of the YEAR--CONF. OFFENSIVE BACK OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 30, 2006, 11:39:11 AM
Gougswillwin -

yeah, I have seen everything going on this Spring, and it gets me really excited for you guys.  Pries has done an amazing job thus far at getting you guys in shape and ready for the season to start, (which is in 4 months!!!!!)

He is trying so hard to turn around the program, he is bringing in amazing looking recruits every single day (from what I have seen), he has a number of guys already committed to CURF, including possibly a Junior College transfer from Florida at QB.  As for turning the program around to a winning team in one year, who knows.  Although Carthage posted a 3-7 record in the 2003 season, then in 2004 made the playoffs and ended the year at 11-2.  So I guess anything is possible. 

But I agree with Maddog (I cant believe we agreed on something) on this one at the least a 500 record.  I want to see them finally succeed since CURF hasn't really done anything football wise since the mid 1980s.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on March 31, 2006, 10:21:21 AM
Its good to finally see some chatter back on the board. 

Maddog; Thats awesome your son is getting a chance to play at a higher level good for him I wish I could do the same. I love the sport dearly and am going to miss putting the pads on more than words can say.  I'm even missing practices already (is that bad or what)

Anyways everyone keep working hard this spring and lets make it another exciting race for the chamionship.  There have been some great games the past few years and I hope it continues.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 31, 2006, 12:18:56 PM
falcsfb, dude you still can if your really interested e-mail me maiurimartin@yahoo.com. I will need some info from you and we will go from there. Leave me a number where I can reach you. Good luck this year coaching YOU will make a major impact on CURF just from what little I know and have seen of you as an athlete/person. I personally think you still can play.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on March 31, 2006, 01:03:23 PM
  Lakeland wins it again!
   Maddog: You and Mel Allen (old NY Yankee broadcaster)  would have made a great team........................... both being "HOMERS". ;D   
   

     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on March 31, 2006, 03:58:37 PM
falscfb:

No, I don't think that is bad at all.  It is a natural and common feeling, to which I'm quite sure most of our fellow posters would concur.  After many years, even us "old guys" still miss it! ;D  You'll find, however, that there are many ways to stay connected with the game after playing days are over, whether you get involved in actual coaching or not.  That range is wide including from the great feeling it is in helping youth get involved at an early age to just supporting as a fan, your h.s. and/or young student-athlete collegiate players, your school, the league and/or DIII football in general.

Also, it is good to see someone get the opportunity to extend their career beyond college for a while if they want to, regardless of what level or category that is in.  Might as well, as anyone really only gets one chance in life at that.  As such, I don't think anyone who does, has any regrets in their later years and will look back on such an experience with good memories and glad they "took the chance and did it." :)   Anyway, best wishes to you in your future endeavors, whatever they may be and wherever life takes you.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 04, 2006, 02:00:18 AM
Good article on lakeland web about Ryan Maiuri and Ryan Van Doo Loo both signing contracts to continue their careers playing  football in Germany. Congradualions to BOTH Ryan's. Good luck and make the IBFC proud as this conference will get recognition as it continues to grow. Hopefully opening more doors for conference athlete's
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 04, 2006, 03:23:04 PM
maddog:
Okay, please tell me again once more (I forgot; must be that old age! ;D).  What will happen when the IBC is split up after next year? Where are the schools going and new afficiations ???  Thanks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 05, 2006, 01:52:17 AM
formerd3db, If I remember correctly, Lakeland, CUW, CERF and Aurora will go to the LMC as for the rest I have no clue. Should be interesting
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on April 05, 2006, 10:42:02 AM
I found this post from November 2005, on the UMAC post pattern from Matt Hill, AD at Northwestern College in MN and commishioner of the UMAC conference....

It looks as though the SLIAC and UMAC conference football teams are going to form a new football alliance under the SLIAC name starting in 2008.  By 2010 the league will have an AQ.

A meeting was held in St. Louis on Monday and the presidents and athletic directors from the UMAC and SLIAC colleges have tentatively agreed on a 10-team 2-divison league.

The league will add MacMurray, Greenville, and Eureka, and lose Rockford and Marantha to the Lake Michigan

On a side note (that I am posting) not the commish - the UMAC currently has a "dome day" that is played in the Metrodome at the end of the season to determine the conference champion, with the 2 divisions, it would not surprise me to possibly rotate the dome day every other year between the Metrodome and Edward Jones Dome (home of the Rams) in St. Louis.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on April 05, 2006, 11:38:46 AM
Benedictine will also go to the "LMC"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on April 05, 2006, 11:59:47 AM
So is this year the last year of the IBFC? Or will the IBFC be around for this year and the next?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: illinihscoach05 on April 05, 2006, 12:10:20 PM
I have heard through reliable sources I know in both leagues that this vote was tabled to be looked at further and that the IBFC schools were not all in favor of this.  Anyone hear anything along these lines?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 07, 2006, 10:55:27 AM
if the SLIAC and the UMAC were to unite and form two divisions I would think that Mac would have to be a favorite to win that conference based on a talent alone.  Its a move Mac probably does not want to make. The same reason why they left the SLIAC to join the IBFC. For better competition. Mac would clearly want to join a conference with more competition than the UMAC and SLIAC.  C'mon Blackburn(though much improved) Gets thumped by IBFC teams all the time and wins in the UMAC. Would Mac be the favorite or should Mac look to play elsewhere?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on April 07, 2006, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: illinihscoach05 on April 05, 2006, 12:10:20 PM
I have heard through reliable sources I know in both leagues that this vote was tabled to be looked at further and that the IBFC schools were not all in favor of this.  Anyone hear anything along these lines?

I haven't heard anything like this. I'm under the impression that the teams (Aurora, Benedictine, Lakeland, Rockford, CUW, CURF, Maranatha, and WLC) will not join the Northern Athletics Conference until 2007 because Wisconsin Lutheran is still under contract with the MIAA until then. Then in 2008, the NAC will have football with those eight teams.

However, I am also under the impression that Eureka will be leaving for the SLIAC next year, so I guess that would mean that for the 2007 season, the IBFC will only have seven teams.

Is this information accurate?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on April 07, 2006, 03:44:56 PM
Big_Uns - as of now the SLIAC Conference does not sponsor Football, they did at one point and then dispanded that when Principia went Independent (then joined UMAC) Westminster and Blackburn joined UMAC.  Currently Greenville and MacMurray hold dual affiliation with the SLIAC for all sports except Football and IBC for Football.  You are correct in that Eureka is joining the SLIAC but they will still stick with the IBC for football until it is disbanded.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 10, 2006, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: gc_fan on April 07, 2006, 03:44:56 PM
Big_Uns - as of now the SLIAC Conference does not sponsor Football, they did at one point and then dispanded that when Principia went Independent (then joined UMAC) Westminster and Blackburn joined UMAC. Currently Greenville and MacMurray hold dual affiliation with the SLIAC for all sports except Football and IBC for Football. You are correct in that Eureka is joining the SLIAC but they will still stick with the IBC for football until it is disbanded.
From what I heard there will be no IBFC it is done so where will Mac and Greenville go???? Eureka only joins the SLIAC for all sports except football. Is that correct?  Maybe Pat Coleman can provide some insight on anything that he has heard about the IBFC disbanding and when.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 10, 2006, 11:16:56 AM
IBFC_Alum:
I had the same questions, especially about Eureka.  Seems to me, those schools would want to try and keep football travel distances (for obvious cost reasons) down as best as practical.  Yes, perhaps Pat has some insight
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 10, 2006, 01:40:12 PM
Although the participants in this conference have been very quiet about it, my understanding is that the Northern Athletic Conference will take over the football side of things when Wisconsin Lutheran's term in the MIAA is done.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 10, 2006, 02:13:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 10, 2006, 01:40:12 PM
Although the participants in this conference have been very quiet about it, my understanding is that the Northern Athletic Conference will take over the football side of things when Wisconsin Lutheran's term in the MIAA is done.
so the NAC will take in the teams that do not join the lake michigan athletic conference?  Or is the sliac bringing football back? I wish Mac and Greenville would the NAC. It is better competition. Where do you think would be a good conference for Mac and Greenville to join?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 10, 2006, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: IBFC_Alum on April 10, 2006, 02:13:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 10, 2006, 01:40:12 PM
Although the participants in this conference have been very quiet about it, my understanding is that the Northern Athletic Conference will take over the football side of things when Wisconsin Lutheran's term in the MIAA is done.
so the NAC will take in the teams that do not join the lake michigan athletic conference? Or is the sliac bringing football back? I wish Mac and Greenville would the NAC. It is better competition. Where do you think would be a good conference for Mac and Greenville to join?

excuse me Pat I thought that you meant the north coast athletic conference. My mistake
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 10, 2006, 02:36:15 PM
The Northern Athletic Conference is the Lake Michigan Conference/Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference merged name, yeah.

Will the SLIAC add football? I think they are maintaining their affiliation with the UMAC. However, the affiliation might reverse itself and it might be UMAC teams playing under the SLIAC banner instead of vice versa. That's what's being discussed above and who knows where it will land. Not sure which is the faster route to the automatic bid, to be honest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 10, 2006, 05:08:04 PM
Thanks Pat for the updated info you have on that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
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Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: retiredguy on April 10, 2006, 07:34:29 PM
Heard from a solid source Northern IBFC schools leaving in '08 to Great Lakes.  Southern IBFC schools to new SLIAC with some UMAC schools joining SLIAC.  So long IBFC enjoy your weak AQ for two more years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2006, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: retiredguy on April 10, 2006, 07:34:29 PM
Heard from a solid source Northern IBFC schools leaving in '08 to Great Lakes.  Southern IBFC schools to new SLIAC with some UMAC schools joining SLIAC.  So long IBFC enjoy your weak AQ for two more years.

Retired guy, IMHO, the logical way for the IBFC to react to the changes in the NIIC and LMC merger is this.

NIIC/IBFC--Aurora, Benedictine, Concordia IL.
NIIC/UMAC--Rockford
LMC/IBFC--Concordia WI, Lakeland
LMC/UMAC--Maranatha Baptist
LMC/MIAA--Wisconsin Lutheran (WLC is staying with the MIAA until Tri-State is a full member in 2008.  IMHO, this is the key to the entire set of movements.  Only Maranatha and Rockford do not have access to the Pool A bid.  If the Northern AC wanted to move ahead for a Pool A football bid in 2009, then they could earn one that early and let WLC joion the next year.)

As I understand the NCAA by-laws, the Northern AC would be in Pool B in 2008 & 2009 and then Pool A in 2010.

Then the SLIAC will have these football playing members:  Eureka, Greenville and MacMurray (currently in the IBFC), and Blackburn, Principia and Westminster MO from the UMAC.  Six full members are enough to form the core for the sake of an AQ.  Beginning in 2008, the SLIAC could sponsor football, add the UMAC affiliates (Martin Luther and hopefully UMinn-Morris) and have the 7 or 8 full members.  The SLIAC would be Pool B in 2008 and 2009 and then qualify for the AQ in 2010.

The UMAC members which are sponsoring football are Martin Luther and Provisional 2008 UMinn-Morris and Crown and Provisional Class 2009 Northwestern MN and Presentation.  The UMAC would have 5 full core members in 2009.  They would need to add 2 affiliates to arrive at 7.  By 2011, they would earn the AQ.  By 2009, if College of St Scholastica and Northland were to add football, they would not need to add affiliates.  (Northland and St Scholastica already sponsor Ice Hockey, so I wonder if they would add football.)

Unless more schools add football in the UMAC, I see the easier, faster and more certain way to the AQ to be thru the SLIAC.  If the SLAIC/UMAC wish to continue the North/South division format and the Dome Day tradition, then they could accommodate them easily.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2006, 01:04:57 AM
Quote from: retiredguy on April 10, 2006, 07:34:29 PM
Heard from a solid source Northern IBFC schools leaving in '08 to Great Lakes. 

Great Lakes?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 11, 2006, 08:16:15 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2006, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: retiredguy on April 10, 2006, 07:34:29 PM
Heard from a solid source Northern IBFC schools leaving in '08 to Great Lakes.  Southern IBFC schools to new SLIAC with some UMAC schools joining SLIAC.  So long IBFC enjoy your weak AQ for two more years.
I this works out like you say it will the SLIAC will not be deserving of an AQ. Look at the teams you have mentioned....Mac is the only team to reach the playoffs(2001,2002) and they did not win a playoff game. Greenville is very much improved and in a year ot two could have contended for the IBFC crown.  The rest of the teams are mediocre.  Mac and Greenville should look to go another direction.  Even if it means more travel they have to take a step forward with their programs and not backwards.  It may be complicated to just up and join a new conference but this will not work.  Every year it would be Mac and Greenville winning the conference and then when they get to the playoffs they they would  be hurt by a weak conference schedule. Are their any other options?

Retired guy, IMHO, the logical way for the IBFC to react to the changes in the NIIC and LMC merger is this.

NIIC/IBFC--Aurora, Benedictine, Concordia IL.
NIIC/UMAC--Rockford
LMC/IBFC--Concordia WI, Lakeland
LMC/UMAC--Maranatha Baptist
LMC/MIAA--Wisconsin Lutheran (WLC is staying with the MIAA until Tri-State is a full member in 2008.  IMHO, this is the key to the entire set of movements.  Only Maranatha and Rockford do not have access to the Pool A bid.  If the Northern AC wanted to move ahead for a Pool A football bid in 2009, then they could earn one that early and let WLC joion the next year.)

As I understand the NCAA by-laws, the Northern AC would be in Pool B in 2008 & 2009 and then Pool A in 2010.

Then the SLIAC will have these football playing members:  Eureka, Greenville and MacMurray (currently in the IBFC), and Blackburn, Principia and Westminster MO from the UMAC.  Six full members are enough to form the core for the sake of an AQ.  Beginning in 2008, the SLIAC could sponsor football, add the UMAC affiliates (Martin Luther and hopefully UMinn-Morris) and have the 7 or 8 full members.  The SLIAC would be Pool B in 2008 and 2009 and then qualify for the AQ in 2010.

The UMAC members which are sponsoring football are Martin Luther and Provisional 2008 UMinn-Morris and Crown and Provisional Class 2009 Northwestern MN and Presentation.  The UMAC would have 5 full core members in 2009.  They would need to add 2 affiliates to arrive at 7.  By 2011, they would earn the AQ.  By 2009, if College of St Scholastica and Northland were to add football, they would not need to add affiliates.  (Northland and St Scholastica already sponsor Ice Hockey, so I wonder if they would add football.)

Unless more schools add football in the UMAC, I see the easier, faster and more certain way to the AQ to be thru the SLIAC.  If the SLAIC/UMAC wish to continue the North/South division format and the Dome Day tradition, then they could accommodate them easily.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 11, 2006, 08:17:03 AM
I this works out like you say it will the SLIAC will not be deserving of an AQ. Look at the teams you have mentioned....Mac is the only team to reach the playoffs(2001,2002) and they did not win a playoff game. Greenville is very much improved and in a year ot two could have contended for the IBFC crown.  The rest of the teams are mediocre.  Mac and Greenville should look to go another direction.  Even if it means more travel they have to take a step forward with their programs and not backwards.  It may be complicated to just up and join a new conference but this will not work.  Every year it would be Mac and Greenville winning the conference and then when they get to the playoffs they they would  be hurt by a weak conference schedule. Are their any other options?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 11, 2006, 08:56:06 AM
Quote from: IBFC_Alum on April 11, 2006, 08:17:03 AM
I this works out like you say it will the SLIAC will not be deserving of an AQ. Look at the teams you have mentioned....

Are their any other options?


Whether they are deserving is one thing.  What is permitted by D3 by-laws and philosophy about access to the playoffs is another.

What I have outlined is what I can imagine the SLIAC Presidents and Commissioner might do to offer playoff access to their student-athletes.

Were I the hired consultant, that would be my recommendation. :)

My anti-elitist nature loathes the smug pseudo-superiority of those who think they are better because [of] "TSDS" (shorthand for a common Texas-ism; they believe their feces has no odor).  D3 is about access.  A conference champion, the best among their peers, deserves access.  The expanded format has taken many of the inequities out of the playoff.  (A good IWU made it to the Final Four.) In this case, the bid for this large SLIAC/UMAC conference will "come from Pool B".  Practically speaking, the IBFC bid will move to the Northern AC.

Respectfully, Mac and Greenville are in the SLIAC for all sports.  They are not going to join another conference, and drag all of the programs to the CCIW or the HCAC or the MWC.  That travel would be detrimental to those programs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 11, 2006, 10:08:33 AM
The CCIW would be a good fit for Mac beacuse they play a lot of those schools from that conference in other sports as it is anyways.  The CCIW has teams from Wisconsin and the Chicago area as does the IBFC.  So travel would not be an issue with that conference.  Now obviously that is one of the strongest conferences in the nation, so Mac would love to join, but that is not going to happen.  It would take several years for Mac to become even close to a contender in the CCIW but it would be very attrractive to possible recruits down the road. I am a fan for strong competition becaus eit only helps you in the playoffs.  What is the use of going to the playoffs and getting knocked out in the first round every year because you have played a weak schedule. Makes no sense to me. The CCIW is only a dream for Mac though. It will never happen.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on April 11, 2006, 01:15:51 PM
Of the schools appearing on this board, I would like to see Aurora, CUW, and Lakeland possibly joining the CCIW. At one time Carroll College was apart of the CCIW, prior to joining the MWC
Aurora- b/c the Spartans play CCIW Teams in every sport
CUW/Lakeland-- b/c they are a consistent playoff team and I think would fit in the CC.  They are relatively close to Carthage/NC/EC/Wheaton
I don't know ( and wouldn't suspect) that the CCIW is looking to add schools. 
IMO, I could see the CCIW adding 2 teams = 10  then going to two 5 school brackets.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 12, 2006, 08:01:53 AM
 With all this talk of possible moves by some to the SLIAC i  e-mailed The Information Director of that conference and asked for a comment as to their
   intent on getting back into football.
  Yes, No, Maybe.  As of now, nothing.  Really didn`t expect much but doesn`t cost anything to ask.
  One things for sure i don`t believe any school from
  the IBFC wants to go to a conference that doesn`t have an AQ to the NCAA play-offs.
 
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 12, 2006, 11:51:01 AM
My conference pics for next year....

1) Lakeland
2)CUW and Mac
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 12, 2006, 11:52:14 AM
4) Greenville
5) AU
6)CU-RF
7)Eureka
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on April 13, 2006, 12:47:01 PM
What about Benedictine?  Where do you see them fitting in?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 13, 2006, 01:18:52 PM
sorry about that.

5) AU
6) BU
7)CURF
8)Eureka

What do you think.........
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 13, 2006, 07:48:04 PM
There is no way that those picks are right.....You gotta get your facts straight man....no way is that in any way shape or form a good selection for the conference next year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 17, 2006, 11:26:34 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on April 13, 2006, 07:48:04 PM
There is no way that those picks are right.....You gotta get your facts straight man....no way is that in any way shape or form a good selection for the conference next year


well what is a good selection?  my guess is you are from aurora and are not happy about placing fifth in my poll. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on April 18, 2006, 12:47:29 PM
Those picks from 3-6 might not be exact, however I don't see anybody getting close to CUW or Lakeland
1 or 2  CUW/Lakeland
3 Macmurray
4  Aurora
5 Greenville
6 Benedictine
7 CURF
8 Eureka
I think CUW will win the title this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 18, 2006, 01:52:10 PM
What about potential POY Candidates from the IBFC.  Defensive and Offensive side of the ball.  What about Coach of the Year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 18, 2006, 05:47:08 PM
well....well.....welll....I dont think you should be assuming where I am from..You know what happens when you assume..what you fail to realize is Mac will not be in the top 3, plus you got lakeland at number one......Mauri was their offense last year no mauri no offense....now dont get me wrong I havent seen the rest of the team...Im just sayin they aint gonna be as good........So  like I said get your facts straight
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 19, 2006, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on April 18, 2006, 05:47:08 PM
well....well.....welll....I dont think you should be assuming where I am from..You know what happens when you assume..what you fail to realize is Mac will not be in the top 3, plus you got lakeland at number one......Mauri was their offense last year no mauri no offense....now dont get me wrong I havent seen the rest of the team...Im just sayin they aint gonna be as good........So like I said get your facts straight


well then post your picks if i am wrong.  If you know so much then your insight on the conference outlook for 2006 would be helpfull.  So when you can get your facts straight and post them for all to see then Maybe I could agree with you on some of your opinions.  Until then keep cheering from the sideline!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 19, 2006, 11:42:27 AM
POY------Bobby Langston-----CUW
Offensive Player of the Year--------Andrew Hornang-------AU
Defensive Player of the Year-------John Wagner------------Lakeland

Watch this kid play LB, will NO DOUBT be better than Sam  and Ryan Van Doo Loo were ther senior years

And Please don't under estimate Lakelands Offense, they will be very tough even without Maiuri who is doing well in Europe so far. Wilk should be a very sound QB, Coach "Z" will see to that.

Coach of the Year (WHO ELSE) but Coach "Z" from Lakeland for the third year in a row. If CUW wins the conference then it will be shared with coach "Z"

This will be a MADDOG fight of a game!!!!!!I'm sticking with Lakeland even though Langston will be hard to stop. Remember I said He (Langston) is the KEY to this game!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 19, 2006, 12:33:04 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on April 19, 2006, 11:42:27 AM
POY------Bobby Langston-----CUW
Offensive Player of the Year--------Andrew Hornang-------AU
Defensive Player of the Year-------John Wagner------------Lakeland

Watch this kid play LB, will NO DOUBT be better than Sam and Ryan Van Doo Loo were ther senior years

And Please don't under estimate Lakelands Offense, they will be very tough even without Maiuri who is doing well in Europe so far. Wilk should be a very sound QB, Coach "Z" will see to that.

Coach of the Year (WHO ELSE) but Coach "Z" from Lakeland for the third year in a row. If CUW wins the conference then it will be shared with coach "Z"

This will be a MADDOG fight of a game!!!!!!I'm sticking with Lakeland even though Langston will be hard to stop. Remember I said He (Langston) is the KEY to this game!!!

Nice picks Madog.  I think Langston is the Consensus right now for player of the year. But  Hornung might have some competiton from RB Ereg and WR Martin From Mac.  Also Mac has Pirollo back on Defense (he was all-region last year) so he could be someone else to consider.
I can't argue with your picks though.  I also agree with your comments on Lakeland.  They are a well coached ballclub and even though they have some big holes to fill, the should still have a chance to win the IBFC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 19, 2006, 01:59:36 PM
Hey...Nice football cliche....Awesome.....if I lay my picks out there.... I would be doin' what everyone else is doin' I'd end up bein a homer such as yourself no doubt.....everyone on this board wants their team to win no harm no foul....but when you start sayin that a team that has been having internal problems with coaches and is in the bottom of the conference last year ahead of two of the top five teams in the conference from last year...I would say you need to get YOUR facts straight.......Stop quoting it looks rediculous like you got nothin to say
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 19, 2006, 02:44:28 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on April 19, 2006, 01:59:36 PM
Hey...Nice football cliche....Awesome.....if I lay my picks out there.... I would be doin' what everyone else is doin' I'd end up bein a homer such as yourself no doubt.....everyone on this board wants their team to win no harm no foul....but when you start sayin that a team that has been having internal problems with coaches and is in the bottom of the conference last year ahead of two of the top five teams in the conference from last year...I would say you need to get YOUR facts straight.......Stop quoting it looks rediculous like you got nothin to say

First, If you have not yet  noticed I am not alumni of Lakeland or CUW but yet I picked them to be at the top of the conference. I do not completely understand your point there. Second, are you not a "homer" too if you are posting on this website?  That is the point of this message board. To discuss issues in the conference.  If you do not like what is said here then why are you posting here? Third, My opinions are exactly that, "my opinions". I never said that my picks were facts you did. I sorry that I do not have the crystal ball that you have, that allows me to know precisely how the conference will pan out next year. My picks were simply my opinions. You obviously know everything so why even play the games next year.  We could just email you and you could tell us how the season went. Lastly, what does this mean "Stop quoting it looks rediculous like you got nothin to say"

Signed,
Homer of the Year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 19, 2006, 03:39:33 PM
First off....How do you know I'm a homer...huh?...Where am I from then...If I am such a homer...I never even said where I was from....your assuming again.....thats not good.....Anyways....if you were reading I have no beef for any one that is a homer I just wanna know how it is you came to your opinion on the picks you take the top 4 teams last season (Lakeland, CUW, Aurora, and Greenville) and based on previous years CUW and lakeland should have top positions but then you place Mac in front of greenville and Aurora, Mac was in the bottom three and now they're in the top 3 man shut up....You must be crazy....Greenville turns its program around and there all of a sudden no good.....Man I don't understand where you are coming from when you try to put other people out there and Like when you say show me your pics....why so u can pretty much tell me how dumb I am......if I put my picks out there everyone will be all over me...so don't come at me sayin that I shouldnt post here if I dont like what is said.....I dont like what YOU said I aint gonna stop posting and you can believe that!

Signed,
I'm better than you
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on April 19, 2006, 06:51:19 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on April 18, 2006, 05:47:08 PM
now dont get me wrong I havent seen the rest of the team...Im just sayin they aint gonna be as good........So  like I said get your facts straight

So you admit you have not seen the rest of the team, but yet you know how good they will be??? And you ask others to get their facts straight??? Wow, that's really an informed opinion - thanks so much for sharing!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on April 19, 2006, 09:00:36 PM
Quote from: fishguy on April 19, 2006, 06:51:19 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on April 18, 2006, 05:47:08 PM
now dont get me wrong I havent seen the rest of the team...Im just sayin they aint gonna be as good........So  like I said get your facts straight

So you admit you have not seen the rest of the team, but yet you know how good they will be??? And you ask others to get their facts straight??? Wow, that's really an informed opinion - thanks so much for sharing!!!

If only I could give out karma points.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 19, 2006, 10:40:02 PM
What did I offend you fishguy???.....Well let me put it this way I have indeed seen every team in this conference but like I stated before new players may not be as good as players gone by.....for instance your muskies lost a very powerful offensive tool.....so your tellin me the kid behind him is gonna put up the same numbers and have the same skill level as Mauri when all he got to play last year was when Mauuri broke his leg and that wasnt even a whole game.....We shall see...SO I have my facts straight...SO lets see what happens.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 20, 2006, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on April 19, 2006, 03:39:33 PM
First off....How do you know I'm a homer...huh?...Where am I from then...If I am such a homer...I never even said where I was from....your assuming again.....thats not good.....Anyways....if you were reading I have no beef for any one that is a homer I just wanna know how it is you came to your opinion on the picks you take the top 4 teams last season (Lakeland, CUW, Aurora, and Greenville) and based on previous years CUW and lakeland should have top positions but then you place Mac in front of greenville and Aurora, Mac was in the bottom three and now they're in the top 3 man shut up....You must be crazy....Greenville turns its program around and there all of a sudden no good.....Man I don't understand where you are coming from when you try to put other people out there and Like when you say show me your pics....why so u can pretty much tell me how dumb I am......if I put my picks out there everyone will be all over me...so don't come at me sayin that I shouldnt post here if I dont like what is said.....I dont like what YOU said I aint gonna stop posting and you can believe that!

Signed,
I'm better than you

First, Who cares where you are from.  Second, what is a homer? Third, was greenville not in the bottom three in the 2004 season and came back to finnish in the top three in the 2005 season?  So why can't Mac do that. So I still do not understand your point there.  I guess in your world a team can never rise from the bottom three and a team in the top three can never fall. Fourth, you said "Man I don't understand where you are coming from when you try to put other people out there and Like when you say show me your pics....why so u can pretty much tell me how dumb I am......if I put my picks out there everyone will be all over me..."  Are you not putting your picks out there if you tell me that Mac should not be #3 and Greenville should not be #4? So in a sense you are being a hypocrit because your are revealing your picks your just not listing them in order. Lastly, I prefer someone disagreeing with my picks. Then we could compare our picks and discuss why feel each other is right without getting all psycho like you have.  Putting picks out on a message board is for fun. Its part of being involved with football in this conference.  You follow the teams, decide who you think will have a good year (based on returning players), root for your team and have fun seeing if your predictions are right. Thats all!!! No reason to get bent out of shape about it like you have because the picks I made did not go your way.  I never bashed you for telling me I was wrong. All I wanted to see was your picks so I could discuss on this board why I think I am right and why you think you are right. Thats all!!! Point being do not bash others if you are SCARED!!!!!! to post your own picks. It's great that you did not "like what I said" and your going to "keep posting".  One day you will not be SCARED!!!! anymore and will post your picks.  You know its ok to be wrong sometimes, don't you?

Signed,

Not Scared to Post Predictions (unlike Fecal Impact)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on April 20, 2006, 10:30:52 AM
Macmurry does have a lot of talent and could definately make it in the top three if they play to potential.  However, they have not done that in the last couple years except for almost beating LC this past year till their Qb got hurt.  Greenville has also done a good joib turning things around (in part due to playing LC and CUW with homefield advantage; and we all know how hard it is to play in the bermuda triangle of football). 

Anyways the point is the conference is as even right now as it has been in years and should shape up to be a good year for games that are competative outside of the first quarter.  As IBFC Alum said opinions are opinions fatal impact you are welcome to argue your opinion but there is no need to jump on someone liek that.  Make an educated statement and you will be respected for it and people will listen to your opinion as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 20, 2006, 11:41:00 AM
Thank you falcsfb,

I made Mac the #3,  based on the same facts that you have listed.  QB-Smchidtke is back, RB-Ereg is back, WR-Martin is back and LB-Pirollo is back.  On paper, the talent is there they just can't seem to put it all together. Greenville has also done a great job in turning it around but in 2006 they are on the road at lakeland and at CUW.  Throw the records away because when you play at Sheybogan and Mequon it is always a tough game.  That is what I am trying to to base my picks off of, THE FACTS!!! Mac plays Aurora and Lakeland at home. Goes on the the road to play CUW. To me that is more favorable than Greenvilles schedule.

I also agree that this year the conference could be wide open. A lot of teams have a lot of holes to fill or in Mac's case, a lot of expectations to live up too with the talent they have. Teams have to show up and execute week in and week out or someone will sneek up on you. Regardless of records!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on April 20, 2006, 01:19:23 PM
I find it hillarious that Fatal thinks putting his picks on the board will make us think he is "dumb."  Yet, he continues to make asinine statements regarding other peoples OPINION.  We don't need your picks to evaluate your intelligence.  Everything else you say gives us a very clear picture.

That being said, in my OPINION I think the IBC will end up like this:
1)Lakeland-2 time defending champs.  Many holes to fill, but they are the champs until someone proves other wise.
2)CUW-great D, must become more balanced on O
3)MAC-Ereg top RB in the IBC and an experienced QB
4)BU-young talent good coaching (lots of injuries last year, plus Sergo has 1 more year)
5)AU-Hornang is the best QB in IBC, needs help from the run game.  Many holes on D to fill
6)Grnvlle-Tough road schedule
7)CURF-new coach (D-1) with best location in IBC has to be able to land at least 2 impact recruits
8)EC-poor facilities, crappy location, makes it very hard to recruit.  Things don't seem to be getting any better at the gippers old school

Now remember, these are just my OPINION.  I did not receive any prophetic like insight from a higher power.  Nor did I find a stone tablet with the results inscripted on it.  I am just taking a marginally educated guess
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 20, 2006, 01:28:31 PM
Thanks for your picks Da One!!

I'm glad your not SCARED like Fecal Impact!!!!

Almost identical to my picks we have BU and GU switched.
I think BU is a school on the rise. After a couple of down years they have improved facilities and coaching to get themselves back to the top of the conference where they used to be. They could be a school toi watch here in the next couple of seasons.

Also, are any other IBFC shcools planning on upgrading their facilities at all?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 20, 2006, 02:47:30 PM
Fecal Impact....lol.....I like it shows guts....not brains but guts.....Any way....way to go gettin people on your side fighting for  the cause of people thinkin' I'm scare....I aint scared of nothin....If you read the previous posts you would know exactly what a homer is........Don't get me wrong.......See now after all is said when I do in fact posts my picks....You wanna talk picks well here ya go!!!!
1)AU
2)LC
3)CUW
4)Greenville
5)BU
6)MAC
7)CURF
8)EC

And by the way....It's Greenville College Not Greenville University....IBFC_ALUM......Way to go
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 20, 2006, 03:03:46 PM
Who's the HOMER NOW............

J/K See, now how hard was that.  Aurora has a very good chance of winning the conference next year.  Hornang is a great QB and they have good talent.  However I feel that they are a great RB away from competing. The rest of your picks I really can't argue because they are very similar to my own.
So I understand your beef now, it was the fact that I had Mac rated above Greenville.  It did not matter where I put Mac as long as it was below Greenville.  You have a legitimate argument there. Greenville was a better team than Mac last year.  However, I felt Mac underachieved last year and Greenville overachieved. No one besides Greenville players knew that they were capable of that kind of season last year.  I do not feel it will be that way this year. Just my opinion.
If Mac does not come out and perform the way they should then I will have to eat my words and say I was wrong. I am fine with that. I appreciate your positive contribution to this message board. You can now return to FatalImpact as you were.

Signed,

Can't we all get along

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 20, 2006, 08:28:34 PM
It will be an interesting to see how this season turns out to say the least....I Can't Wait
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 21, 2006, 09:07:33 AM
especially since this could be the last year of the IBFC conference.  Old rivalries may not be played again for a long time.  Hopefully this will be the year our conference will get some respect and win a playoff game. 

Lakeland players how do you feel about Coach Z interviewing for other Coaching jobs?  I can understand a Coach interviewing for a job if they are moving to D-II, D-IAA, or D-I but for another D-III school in the same state. As a player I would feel uneasy about that.  But I guess the almighty dollar rules in D-III coaching.  Coach Z has a chance at Lakeland to make them a perenial D-III power.  Tough decision I guess.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 22, 2006, 08:45:11 AM
IBFC Alum:

Wow, he "just" got there.  That would be an unfortunate loss for Lakeland, although, admittedly, I don't know the "behind the scenes" aspects there.  On other hand, one can't blame the guy for wanting to improve his situation for himself and family if an improved opportunity becomes available.  Yes, you are right, always a tough decision for anyone.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 22, 2006, 09:32:46 AM
There is a long way to go to make Lakeland a perennial D-III power ...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 23, 2006, 03:07:07 PM
I agree with you there Pat, but the foundation is there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 24, 2006, 11:59:25 PM
Real cool formerd3db, "He 'just' got it" real cool.........Anyway Pat is right....They just took a huge blow to their offense by losing Mauri.....I dont think his back up will be like him....We'll see.....But for now I think it will turn out interesing to say the least.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on April 25, 2006, 11:24:03 AM
Pat or Any CURF fans/ player ect... Know what happened to Bob Conwell?  Any idea where he went to?

thanks
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on April 25, 2006, 02:33:04 PM
Don't quote me on this, but through some other players that have seen him around, I have hear he is still in the area because his wife has a job around here and they just got an apartment or house or something.  I've also heard a rumor that he is possibly going to coach high school with one of his good buddies that coached with him at Carthage and one year here under Coach Hynes.  Anyways, these are all just things that I have heard, Coach Conwell has been flying under the radar ever since he got fired.  I havent seen him or heard from him since the day we turned our uniforms in.  Kind of a sad story cause he was a really nice guy.  But I feel like we are definately heading in the right direction now.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on April 25, 2006, 03:00:58 PM
Thanks for the info.  I have always liked coach Conwell and thought he was always a very good coach and good person!  I hope he is doing well
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on April 25, 2006, 08:35:46 PM
Who is John Wagner? He was the 16th leading tackler in the conference. I don't think he was even 1st or 2nd team conference. i know he wasn't f1st team.

Maddog your bias is at an all time high.

#25 LB from Greenville- D player of the year.
Aurora QB - O player of the year.


Picks
1. CUW (best defense, athletic QB, great WR)
2. Lakeland (lost core of offense. could fall behind GC-but good overall talent)
3. Greenville (10 D starters return)
4. Aurora (best QB-2nd year coach)
5. Benedict (Great coach)
6. Mac (no oline -won't score much- great LB pirrollo)
7. CURF
8. Eureka
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 26, 2006, 10:58:37 AM
Genius,

You say Lakeland is second behind CUW because they"lost core of offense" You also said "best defense, athletic QB, great WR" is why CUW is number one.  What about your RB situation.  Doesn't CUW run the ball more than they throw it?
Losing Mills is a huge hit to your offense. How do you replace him?  I do not doubt that CUW will be at the top of the conference but A great QB and a great Reciever will not be as effective without a great running game (unless you plan on throwing the ball 30-40 times a game). Without a doubt CUW has a great defense but I think they will find it hard to run the ball this year but time will tell if they have a back step up and take control of the running game.  If they find that back then I think they will win the conference.

You also picked the LB from GC to win defensive player of the year.  Thats a good pick.  I think that race will be very tight this year with Pirillo from Mac, GC # 25 and the DL from CUW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 26, 2006, 09:07:47 PM
Hi,
Here is what I see happening in the IBFC

1.) CUW
2 and 3.) Mac or Lakeland
4.) GC
5.) Ben.
6.) Eurka
7.) CURF

Here is why:

On paper CUW has the most talent coming back and they look really good this year. I think Lakeland will take second or third because while they may have strong players coming back I personally dont think that the guys stepping up are not as good as the players they lost.  I think mac will take second or third because lets face it they had a really down year last year, they had an almost entirely new Coaching staff, a new defence and a lot of young starting.  From what I hear, however, their head coach has worked them hard this off season and is really trying to get the team turned around from last year, I dont think they will win the IBFC but I think they will return to the top half of the confrence.  I think that while Greenville does return a lot of players on Def. their offence will be a slight problem (but not to much).  Their defence is good because they are prepaired each week, they know what to expect from their oppoents and I really think that it will save them and perhaps even mess up the way that I think the IBCF will play out.  I think that Ben., while they had a ok year last year with beating mac and all, that they will still play competitively but they will not be able to beat Mac or GC.  Eurka will beat CURF and CURF while they have gotten a new coaching staff, wont make that much of a turn around this year.  A large part of my standing play out however hing on mac.  To rank them so high after a really bad season is risky, but I think that if they can pull themselves together and play together and have their offence and def. play consistantly then they will do well.

As far as Off. and Def. player of the year goes, I am not sure.  It is to hard to tell by just looking at what is coming back next year as well as the fact that anyone can have a good or bad season any time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 26, 2006, 09:19:01 PM
Wow, I forgot Aurora, that was stupid.

I see them tied with GC at #4

I think a few good games next year are going to be:

Mac Vs. Lakeland (these guys do not like each other).
Lakeland Vs. CUW
Mac Vs. GC
GC Vs. Aurora
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: wow_2004 on April 27, 2006, 12:00:04 AM
IBFC_ALUM:

You said that losing mills is a huge hit for the falcons' offense, but i disagree. I played at Concordia a few years ago and as i recall, when Concordia won the conference championship in 2003, and represented the IBFC in the playoffs, Manny (Mills) was injured in the first quarter of that game and could not play the rest of the game against #9 ranked U-W Lacrosse. So who stepped up and took his place??? A guy by the name of Aaron Gillespie. He ended up rushing for 142 yards on 22 carries for a td. The ironic thing about that was, he was a true freshman!!!! He will now be a senior. He has played wing for the last 2 seasons and is more than likely to return to running back where he is more dominant. Dont think that Concordia's running game is weak because Mills is gone. Concordia has a balanced offense and defense and i believe they will get the job done in 06'.!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 27, 2006, 07:21:23 AM
Genius, mark my works down this kid will not the smart's right out of you. Expose yourself and then tell me if I am bias. He will be conference player of the year when he becomes a senior in 3 years. His name will be household by the end of next season.

And you guys pick who you want for this years player of the year, but again I will be right when they choose BOBBY LANGSTON from CUW, did I say CUW, I thought I was bias!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 27, 2006, 07:26:17 AM
Da One, how's it going fella, Luther look like conference champs this yr, fill me in. I pick you and Coe as top 2 in conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 27, 2006, 08:10:00 AM
Quote from: wow_2004 on April 27, 2006, 12:00:04 AM
IBFC_ALUM:

You said that losing mills is a huge hit for the falcons' offense, but i disagree. I played at Concordia a few years ago and as i recall, when Concordia won the conference championship in 2003, and represented the IBFC in the playoffs, Manny (Mills) was injured in the first quarter of that game and could not play the rest of the game against #9 ranked U-W Lacrosse. So who stepped up and took his place??? A guy by the name of Aaron Gillespie. He ended up rushing for 142 yards on 22 carries for a td. The ironic thing about that was, he was a true freshman!!!! He will now be a senior. He has played wing for the last 2 seasons and is more than likely to return to running back where he is more dominant. Dont think that Concordia's running game is weak because Mills is gone. Concordia has a balanced offense and defense and i believe they will get the job done in 06'.!!!!

You make a good point but you forget to realize that he had a good game against UW-Lacrosse but that was with the 2003 playoff offensive line, will that be the same story with the 2006 offensive line?  Only time will tell.  To me, mills was a special player. Yes, he had a good offensive line but he had a knack for turning small plays into big ones.  I played on both of Mac's conference Championship teams(2001,2002), when CUW had Conference player of the year, Cedric Simmons and Manny Mills. Trying to play defense against both was tough, and in my opinion there was not that much of a let down when when manny got the ball to spell Cedric. Now granted that was a different O-line as well, but Manny was a special back. If Gillespie steps and does the things you say he will then CUW will be very tough this year. But like I said only time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 27, 2006, 08:23:20 AM
The 44,

I agree with you on Mac.  They had a terrible year last year by anyones standards and especially by Coach McCray's standards.  Like we both said they have a ton of talent and they are young.  When those two elements combine and finally click, they could be very dangerous. And they still have good upperclassmen with QB Schmidtke, RB Ereg and LB Pirillo.  I like them being the underdog. I think it will make them play harder. Playing Augustana the first game of the year will help get them prepared for a tough conference schedule.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on April 27, 2006, 09:46:23 AM
Maddog,

Things out here are going well.  The IIAC doesn't allow spring practice, but our men are having the best spring we've ever had.  The team captains run all of the off-season workouts.  We have about 75 returning players on campus and we have had at least 63 at every workout session.  Not to mention that 9 of those 75 run track.  We will be without our senior RB next year.  He is taking a medical red-shirt with a shoulder injury.  Good news we have a stud #2 RB who is an absolute hammer.  With our QB, WR's, and vetran O-line we should be solid.  On D we have to replace 2 great corners, but we have everyone else back.  This is shaping up to be our best recruiting class.  We have a ton of speed comming in.  Our league is so tough top to bottom, you never know what the season will bring. 

How is Ryan liking Europe?  You said he is playing DB, safety or corner?  What is the name of the team again?  We will scrimage Lakeland again this year, a little closer to you.  Any chance you make it over to watch?

Da One
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 27, 2006, 01:52:17 PM
Quote from: IBFC_Alum on April 27, 2006, 08:23:20 AM
The 44,

I agree with you on Mac.  They had a terrible year last year by anyones standards and especially by Coach McCray's standards.  Like we both said they have a ton of talent and they are young.  When those two elements combine and finally click, they could be very dangerous. And they still have good upperclassmen with QB Schmidtke, RB Ereg and LB Pirillo.  I like them being the underdog. I think it will make them play harder. Playing Augustana the first game of the year will help get them prepared for a tough conference schedule.

First of all, personally I dont think that Schmidtke is that great of a QB.  Now that Balirino (sp?) is gone his preformance has really fell of.  Just watch (I am not a football expert) Schmidtke seems to hang on to the fall to long and when he does let it go, he seems to try and force it to the reciever he wants when their are other open recievers.  However, this could also be because his So. year he go sacked I like a total of like 12 or 15 times or something but this yearhe got sacked that many times in the first 3 games so it could just be a lack of confidence in his offencive line.  (man I feel really bad for bashing this kid like this because it is a tough job to play QB).

I guess while I am on the subject of talking about kids, Ereg didnt look as good as he has in years past.  So people say that he had a few injuries that hurt his preformance but you have to remember he is going to be 25 or 26 next year which is old to be playing football with the physical type of runner he is.  The good news about this, however is that Mac has a kid named Chris Baker who has shown signs that he could be really really good in years to come.

O.K. Enought with all that. From what I hear Mac is shaping up to have a good season this year also because they are working hard in the weight room and with their running.  I know that all the teams are working hard but from what I understand in years past not to many of Mac's players would lift or run hard but I have heard (from a very good source) that the new Strength and Conditioning Coach (Postma) is doing a great job about getting the kids in the weight room and they are all lifting which is a big step in the right direction for this program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 27, 2006, 03:07:12 PM
The 44,

I do not know what you heard in the past but Mac players have always lifted. The scrubs never lifted but that was their choice and believe me they were not around long.  Look in the weight room next time you are there at Mac. You will see a lot of lifting records from the years 2001-2005. Schmidtke is a good QB you will see this year now that he has some experience around him. Ereg will be fine.  This will be the year that they get it turned around.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 27, 2006, 04:06:19 PM
I can see where you are coming from with Schmidtke not having the experiance around him.  He did have a young group of recivers around him last season and they are older and hopfully better.  I know that Ereg will be fine as well but I dont think that he will be the power house that he was 2 years ago is all I am saying, time is catching up to him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on April 27, 2006, 05:19:01 PM
Maddog,

You can be biased on one point and then be captian obvious on a different point. It is hard to argue with Langston as P.O.Y.

I personally don't see him winning it because he is a DL and i expect that a LB (more opportunities to make big plays) will win it. I think #25 from GC is the LB.

Wagner may be great in 3 years. Set a reminder on your outlook to write again in 3years and bring up his name. For right now, he doesn't deserve to be mentioned.

Mills was a great back. I  don't think they will miss him that much. Most of their oline is back and the other 2 backs are returning. They also have the best return game in the conference. Although their punt team was suspect. With their Dfense they may not need to score many points this year anyway. That is why i pick them #1.

however, anytime you are a 1 dimensional offense, people have a chance to stop you. So by no means am i saying no one else has a chance. But they get the nod if i was betting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 28, 2006, 02:21:06 AM
Genius, you make valid points, I agree CUW will be up there at the top. As for Wagner I am sticking with this kid, he is a man at a kids age. His  maturity for the game is way to advanced for his age. For sure a student of the game like Ryan was.

Da One, Ryan is loving Europe and tearing up, He is playing OLB put on 18 more pounds. In 3 games has 2 INT's and took one 68 yrds for a TD, he is also playing WR and KR/PR.  Ran one KR 90 for a TD. He is playing for the Hamburg Blue Devils the farm team for the Sea Devils.  In 3 weeks has seen 4 different Countries. Not to mention he is making good $. Surprised he adapted so well to Defense.

Keep in touch, I may make the Scrimage we'll see.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 28, 2006, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: footballisfun on April 27, 2006, 04:06:19 PM
I can see where you are coming from with Schmidtke not having the experiance around him. He did have a young group of recivers around him last season and they are older and hopfully better. I know that Ereg will be fine as well but I dont think that he will be the power house that he was 2 years ago is all I am saying, time is catching up to him.

You can't be a powerhouse when you do not have an offensive line that is not very good (2005 O-line).  But times are changing at Mac.  With admission requirements being raised every single year since Coach McCray was hired at Mac,  the overall team talent has not been there. This is something previous Mac Head coaches did not have to deal with.  But those admission requirements are for the better of the school and for the better of football program.  It will help bring in better character, smarter players and keep players around for all four years of college.  These past couple of seasons have been a transitional period for Mac and it has been tough.  I think you will see a more improved Mac team this year and more consistent Mac teams down the road.  McCray is a great head coach and teams will see that this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 28, 2006, 04:15:52 PM
guess whos back.... hey first thing first football is fun the correct spelling is BALLERINO... let me get into this on offense my boy pete is not falln off watch out this year IBFC talkn to pete he is ready to lead MAC back to the championship where it belongs, i agree the QB postion is a tough but mike is a smart DUDE he can handle it hey MIKE just throw the ball like i always told u trust ur WRs, now MAC has an excellent WR named T. Martin he is going to do some special things at MAC i think with him and ereg as a 1 to 2 punch MAC can do some damage and take control again....  now the D o **** ur telln me with #9 Larry Pirollo in the middle who is going to score on MAC u have the best LB in the country and wheres he from LAKE MARY, FL .. larry represent the LAKE DUDE.... larry is going to have the IBFC by the balls and hes going to be the leader of that team and D.. Larry has a big year MAC has  big year all teams get ready to see # 9 all up in that ass yeaaaaaaaaaaaa DUDE.. coach McCray whats up dude how r things in IL  bet u wish u were here in the FLA chillin wit me haha
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 28, 2006, 04:19:42 PM
heres how i think next year will go
1. MAC
2. CUW
3.lakeland
4. AU
5.greenville
6.eureka
7.BU
8.CURF

Hey # 9 u cant leave MAC without a ring i got 2 hahah
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on April 28, 2006, 05:41:06 PM
What was the score of the Mac-Cuw game last year??? I dont think mac is going to be good at all. they come to Cuw this year and thats it. Mac is going to get crushed. Nice try.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 29, 2006, 12:21:56 AM
FBfan01,

Last year doesnt matter, especially in the IBFC.  A perfect example is GC, they went from being a not so good team to a team that supprised a lot of people this year.

Renno,

I hope #9 can pull it together but is the lead Macs team
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 29, 2006, 04:42:55 PM
If I recall correctly, four of the eight coaches were new last year. Those teams may make significant strides in year two under their new coaches.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 01, 2006, 01:41:39 AM
Genius, I guess the best way I can see to explain WHO John Wagner is, well go to the vidio store and rent the movie "WATERBOT", yes "WATERBOY", John is identical to BOBBY BUSHA! and yes he loves his MaMa, so be careful what you say in that game around him. I will feel responsible if he punishes you to badly.

As for m dark horse at running back, LEADING RUSHER IN "CONFERENCE" will be Lakelands running horse (No not Mr. Ed) but Mr. Ergman hope I spelled it right. No doubt will rush for over 1,000 yrds.

As for mu SCARED KITTY, God Bless you today and IT will be a wonderful DAY for you, promise. and the rest of you don't even ASK!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 01, 2006, 01:44:55 AM
Keep in mind that he will be the leading rusher in conference play because the first 3 games will be against powerhouses, un like the rest of the IBFC and their NON-Conference schedules, but thats how Coach-"Z" prepares against THE BEST!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 01, 2006, 03:40:35 AM
pssst...madddog...CUW plays north central...so maybe you shoud say..like most of the conference not rest of the conference.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 01, 2006, 04:49:52 AM
sotha sil, one tough game is nothing compared to (3) very tough games, Whitewater, Oshkosh, Carthage. I'd take North Central any day of the week. Show me a tougher non- conference schedule in this conference!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 01, 2006, 05:22:05 PM
well, we also have carthage in a scrimmage.....so, you do have a tough one im not saying ya dont probably shaping to be the toughest...but, you would take north central any day of the week? come on now that is a program way better than carthage or uwo
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 02, 2006, 12:41:25 PM
Quote from: FBfan01 on April 28, 2006, 05:41:06 PM
What was the score of the Mac-Cuw game last year??? I dont think mac is going to be good at all. they come to Cuw this year and thats it. Mac is going to get crushed. Nice try.

Who cares about Last year!!! Keep living in the past man.  Just like Pat said "If I recall correctly, four of the eight coaches were new last year. Those teams may make significant strides in year two under their new coaches. "  I know Mac does not have a new coach but the whole coaching staff was brand new last year.  So watch out for the changes.  CUW goes down at home.  Go HIGHLANDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 02, 2006, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on May 01, 2006, 01:44:55 AM
Keep in mind that he will be the leading rusher in conference play because the first 3 games will be against powerhouses, un like the rest of the IBFC and their NON-Conference schedules, but thats how Coach-"Z" prepares against THE BEST!!!!!!!!!

Mac plays Auggie this year Non-Conference.    All that hard non-conference scheduling Lakeland did, did not earn Lakeland a playoff victory. So no excuses!!!  Maybe we should scrap conventional wisdom of playing tough non-conference games, Maybe if you play scrubs for your  non-conference games and build your stats to a ridiculous amount, you would get a better seed in the playoffs and play someone easier. Because the IBFC AQ will always be the lowest seed until one of them wins a playoff game. Maddog,  You do know who Auggie is right? J/K

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SCARED KITTY on May 02, 2006, 03:13:35 PM
Maddog----Thanks. I'm doing good. New kitten my have some problems.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 02, 2006, 04:02:05 PM
 Footballisfun:
   Phonetically you were close on "Balirino" as that pretty much sounds like it would have been spelled.
   As i said,"close" but no cigar.  :D
    He was a super Wr for Mac a couple of years ago
    wearing #10 plus he was the "Conference
     Receiver of the Year" as well.
    One other interesting note,  he made the Div-3 Team Of The Week (2) twice in one season. Not
    many guys do that.
Even Maddog liked him and he didn`t play for
    Lakeland. Go figure.  ;D
 

   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 02, 2006, 04:27:15 PM
Reeno10: 
    2 posts and your "back" ? 
    You better get a (real) job and leave the football
    prognosticating to others. 
     ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 03, 2006, 01:02:34 AM
I figure alum is sarcastic...but still...i dont think running the stats up will help...but, i dont think playing three really good non conference games is the way to go...you end up getting beat up regardless of wins or losses...i know lakeland and cuw beat each other up enough...and regardless of the mac cuw score last year...there was hitting going on on both sides...so, maybe a tough one or two games is the way to go...but that is my philosophy..the coach at lakeland has won a couple and the one at cuw has...so, i guess it really is opinion...

random thoughts by the sil....new conference will hurt the good schools like cuw and lakeland bc the conference sadly will get weaker...i think they will not have a bid for the ncaa tourny...

cuw has the three best offensive atheletes and the best o-lineman...their coach is under appreciated

GC's LB is by far the most exciting player to watch before the snap....and one of the best in the conference....

Maddog pisses me off more than makes me happy..but i cant help but love him...

Bobby langston is amazing...but wilbur allen is the biggest beast of a player this conference has seen...

mike stien is pound for pound the strongest player in the conference...

some players in this conference have played for 6 or 7 years and its slipping through... lol this ish is so random
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 03, 2006, 02:10:31 AM
IBFC-Alum, Actually Mac has two highly rated coaches from Saginaw Valley one of the best D-II programs in the country, so BANK on the fact they know their stuff, again Mac's ONLY problem I see is there attitude as a TEAM, listen to their coaches and play physical like they can and LOOK OUT IBFC because they will be BACK.

Sure I know who Auggie is, they let a QB with a broken Fibula, throw for unbelievable yrd and 2 TD.s in the second half. and again woulda, coulda shoulda I know but had Ryan been healthy and able to run and play his game. NO DOUBT Lakeland would have won that game. How does a kid throw for 183 yrds and 2 TD's with a broken leg IN ONE HALF. Sure I know Auggie!

Kitty call Maddog today!!!! I need to bark at you!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 03, 2006, 09:00:07 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on May 03, 2006, 02:10:31 AM
IBFC-Alum, Actually Mac has two highly rated coaches from Saginaw Valley one of the best D-II programs in the country, so BANK on the fact they know their stuff, again Mac's ONLY problem I see is there attitude as a TEAM, listen to their coaches and play physical like they can and LOOK OUT IBFC because they will be BACK.

Sure I know who Auggie is, they let a QB with a broken Fibula, throw for unbelievable yrd and 2 TD.s in the second half. and again woulda, coulda shoulda I know but had Ryan been healthy and able to run and play his game. NO DOUBT Lakeland would have won that game. How does a kid throw for 183 yrds and 2 TD's with a broken leg IN ONE HALF. Sure I know Auggie!

Kitty call Maddog today!!!! I need to bark at you!!!!!!

Lakeland does put 11 guys on the field like eveyone else don't they?  No doubt that Ryan had a great IDIVIDUAL!!!!! effort but football is a team game.  Ryan would have had to thrown 3 more touchdowns to keep up with the points Lakelands defense was giving up that day. But what is in the past is in the past and thats that. I agree with you on the Mac situation 100%.  If their attitude changes (which it will) Mac will be BACK.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 03, 2006, 10:51:13 AM
How do some of these people keep finding eligibility.  Are they handing out red-shirt seasons for playing on a crappy team?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 03, 2006, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: falcsfb on May 03, 2006, 10:51:13 AM
How do some of these people keep finding eligibility. Are they handing out red-shirt seasons for playing on a crappy team?

You would have to ask the CUW athletic director about that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 03, 2006, 10:59:51 AM
I agree that Mac we be an extremely tough team to beat if they pull their heads out of their back ends.  Once they are down however, they are down for the count (in years past).  But I don't see them stealing one at CUW.  I am extremely excited to see how the conference shapes up this coming season.  Could a team with one conference loss be the sole champion?  There should be some actual excitement for more than two weekends in the conference schedual this time around.    

Just when the IBFC is getting strong from top to bottom its being broken up and good teams are being put with even weaker teams.  Hope everyone is having a good spring and working hard.  Keep it up this summer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 03, 2006, 11:01:17 AM
I'll do that right after I ask Benedictines and Macs
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 03, 2006, 11:11:00 AM
who was that linemen that CUW had during the 2004 season from Utah.  Wasn't he a player coach?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2006, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: IBFC_Alum on May 03, 2006, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: falcsfb on May 03, 2006, 10:51:13 AM
How do some of these people keep finding eligibility. Are they handing out red-shirt seasons for playing on a crappy team?

You would have to ask the CUW athletic director about that.

Redshirts are handled with the NCAA by the conference, in this case almost assuredly the Lake Michigan Conference. In my experience the school's full-time conference is the one involved.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 03, 2006, 12:09:43 PM
Mac will need more than attitude to get better. It's called an Oline and Dline. 2 coaches from Saginaw huh? the DB coach played there. his bio said nothing about him coaching there. Playing for a good program has nothing to do with being a good coach. D coordinator at Mac. Needs some help. When you can't stop greenville or Bene's offense you have problems, coaching problems.

Mac has a good LB, WR, RB, QB...that is not enough. That teams that have been successful in the last couple years AU, CUW, LC all have good o and d lines. everything starts up front. No line= no success.

Lakeland's 1st offense is better than Augustana's 2nd defense. That is why Mauri had 2tds. They could ever stop Auggies offense though, so it didn't matter.

A big part of Lakeland's offense was Mauri being a really good athlete. Having an athletic QB took that offense to the next level. I don't see there rushing or passing attacking being as good if there new QB doesn't have that running ability like Mauri.

Peter Ereg for Mac was listed as a senior last year. How is it that he is back this year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 03, 2006, 12:36:11 PM
Ereg began his career at Western Mchigan and then transferred to Mac.  He was listed as a senior academically but not athletically. This will be is senior year in athletics.

I agree with the statement that you need a good oline and d-line to be succesfull. Because back in 2001 and 2002 when Mac was stomping a mudhole throughout the IBFC, we had the biggest and strongest Lines in the conference. So dont bash any team because this conference always goes in cycles.  When I played in the IBFC Lakeland was middle of the road and so was CUW.  The only teams fighting for the conference title every year was Mac and Aurora. Check the history. Who has more playoff appearances?  Aurora is first and then Mac. So all of you young bucks bashing Mac and not giving Aurora respect, check your IBFC hisotry and see who dominated when you were poppin zits in high school.  Lakeland and Cuw only enjoyed conference success the last three years.  Wow big deal!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 08, 2006, 01:52:24 AM
Over Coming my Fears, today the Dog turns 48 and to over come my scared of hieghts, I am going to fly, yes fly a twin engine Cesna plane then here is the crazy part I will sky dive at 12,000 feet. I must be getting crazy in my old age, at any rate if you never hear from me again then you can assume what happen!, I am sure you will hear from the Dog tomorrow. I will share my experience. Everyone keep working hard the season is right around the corner. Hope you all have a sky high day! I know I will.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 08, 2006, 12:50:47 PM
IBFC_Alum

it is a big deal to have success, even if it is only 3 years. I'm pretty sure if Mac or AU had more success these last 3 years you wouldn't refer to that success with sarcasm.

History lesson. Since 1999 (last 7 years) Mac won the conference twice. the other 5 years the most wins that have in a single season is 4 (That is not what i consider dominance.

Aurora- 2 conference titles a tie. they have also took 2nd place a couple times. I don't personally consider that dominance but they have definitely been the most consistent team for awhile.

Since 99 here where each team stacks up with wins.
AU-41
CUW- 38
LC-33
Mac-30
BC-23
GC-17
EU-11
CURF-3

I wouldn't consider any team dominating the league. May you disagree.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 08, 2006, 03:00:36 PM
Genius.

That is still one more conference crown than anybody else has (besides AU).  Thats two playoff trips.  2001 lost in the last 14 seconds on a touchdown pass.  2002 got beat bad by Wabash.  Mac has come closer than any other team to winning a playoff game. 

Once again it does not matter how many conference wins you have if those wins do not take you to the playoffs. 

Great job on beating Curf and Eureka every year!!!
Let me know when you have two crowns!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 08, 2006, 05:45:37 PM
IBFC alum...
So does that mean you have backed off of your dominace statement? since now you are saying they still have 1 more conference title than anyone else.

you should be proud about what Mac did when i was in junior high. it is too bad that the current program can't live in the past with you. It looked like mac had a good couple years with the 2 playoff bids. Considering their history since then, it looks like they lucked out with a great recruiting class. But their norm is middle of the pack. And their more recent history is getting blown out by the top of the conference.

Enough of the past, right now mac has some good skill guys (if they retained them). But that Oline was poor. The defense scheme was suspect. i only see them beating eureka and curf next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 09, 2006, 08:25:54 AM
Genius,
I am not backing off my dominance statement, just stating that no matter what stats you throw up here to try and prove your point, your team does not have more IBFC crowns than Mac. So your team must be middle of the road as well.  Regardless if those titles occured before your nutz dropped or not.
I only bring up the past so that you understand the history of the conference.  Thats all.  To say Mac will only beat CURF and Eureka shows that you must not have made your teams travel list at all last year to watch any of these schools in the conference play. Now I know where your anger is coming from. I am sure you had a good JV team though? Maybe this year your name will make that list.  Lets just let the season play it self out.  Obviously this is not Division I where we do not have a good Idea of who is coming back to who's team and who got recruited until August rolls around. Just make sure you stay posting when you have to eat your words. And I'll make sure that I'll do the same.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 09, 2006, 09:38:18 AM
 For Mac to have a good season they must come up with an "O" line that can get the job done, not like the last couple of years when their  "O" line was atrocious. Just look at their (YPP) for the last couple of seasons and that stat really stands out.
  Oops, looks like you can`t do that cause Mac`s football site is/has been under "re-design" for almost a year.  I wonder how you can start a job, not finish in a timely manner and still get paid?
  Mac will have a senior QB and the best RB in the conference ( to bad Lakeland) this season but if they don`t get any help up front, Mac will be no better than a middle of the road team, IMO.
  As i mentioned Lakeland above i feel compelled to
   remind them they........lost to Augie!
   Put away the would-a, could-a, should-a theories
   or at the very least seek professional help for your denial. 
   It`s a new season, turn the page, move on.
    Enough already.   
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 09, 2006, 11:15:55 AM
IBFC_Alum

You told me to look at the history and i did. You said mac and Au was dominant. i disagree. Having 1 more title than 2 other teams in the conferene is not dominance in any sport, on any continent. 2 titles and then your next highest finish is 4th in the conference over a 7 year span is not dominance, it isn't even consistency. if you want us to understand history make sure you can interpret that history without such an obvious blinding bias.

Secondly, don't try to deflect the attention by bringing up my playing career. That is not the subject. the subject began with predictions. When writing you want to stay focused on the subject at hand. you should have learned that in college writing at mac.

By the way...who did Mac beat in the conference last year (Eureka and CURF). I apologize if you were offended by my opinion that they will repeat that same record this year. CUW is my favorite, Lakeland (lost playmakers on O and D), AU (lost dbs/dl but good qb) and GC (bunch of returners). SO i think they will fight for second. I think Bene has a great coach and they are on the rise while mac's defensive coaching is suspect. So i pick Bene to beat mac again. mac should pound eureka and curf.

IBFC_ALum, these are my observations of each program. it has nothing to do with anger just an opinion.

Gome Pyle, i believe both backs for Cuw are better than Ereg. he is good but i 'd rather face him then the other 2.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 09, 2006, 02:25:53 PM
So you don't deny the fact that you never made your teams travel list.!!!!! J/K

If you say that I am bias then you definetly are too. Especially if you think that both backs from CUW are better than Ereg. 

To say my predictions about Mac are bias is incorrect because I did not even pick them to win the conference.  I picked them to finnish at the top.  I have information about some recruits that are heading up to Mac. I know from that information that they will make Mac a much better team. Trust me!!!  So that is what I base my facts on. 

Here's a hint:  These recruits were all-state in a state that produces nothing but Division I prospects. Now that is good Information to base my predictions on.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 09, 2006, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: Genius on May 09, 2006, 11:15:55 AM
IBFC_Alum

You told me to look at the history and i did. You said mac and Au was dominant. i disagree. Having 1 more title than 2 other teams in the conferene is not dominance in any sport, on any continent. 2 titles and then your next highest finish is 4th in the conference over a 7 year span is not dominance, it isn't even consistency. if you want us to understand history make sure you can interpret that history without such an obvious blinding bias.

Secondly, don't try to deflect the attention by bringing up my playing career. That is not the subject. the subject began with predictions. When writing you want to stay focused on the subject at hand. you should have learned that in college writing at mac.

By the way...who did Mac beat in the conference last year (Eureka and CURF). I apologize if you were offended by my opinion that they will repeat that same record this year. CUW is my favorite, Lakeland (lost playmakers on O and D), AU (lost dbs/dl but good qb) and GC (bunch of returners). SO i think they will fight for second. I think Bene has a great coach and they are on the rise while mac's defensive coaching is suspect. So i pick Bene to beat mac again. mac should pound eureka and curf.

IBFC_ALum, these are my observations of each program. it has nothing to do with anger just an opinion.

Gome Pyle, i believe both backs for Cuw are better than Ereg. he is good but i 'd rather face him then the other 2.

Didnt AU also lose 1 or 2 linebackers and some WR as well as some O-lineman
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 10, 2006, 10:28:24 AM
RBs that have the ability to break long runs and make people miss strike more fear in me than backs who are simply downhill runners (physical style).

I believe the 2backs at CUW run hard but they are also elusive. I would not say the same about Ereg. he runs very hard but he isn't that elusive. He'll run you over but he'll fall and get a yard extra. The 2 CUW backs will make u miss and keep running, plus they are hard runners. they aren't as physical that Ereg but physical enough.

It is also very difficult for me to separate the RBs from the olines. When you also add the oline in the mix I would rather face Ereg then the cuw backs. Who cares who the best back is if the oline doesn't allow him to show his skills. It doesn't mean anything in reality. The RB from Eureka the last couple years was really good. But his oline was so crappy he got no recognition.

So I will say it again "They are all good backs but i would rather face Ereg then the other 2." THAT IS REALITY IN ACTION, NOT BIAS!!!

Inside info on Mac... that is great that they got some good players coming in. Do they play o or dline? They got enough skill guys they need big uglies.

Did you also get the inside info on Mac that they are struggling with retention. It is hard to get a lot better when you lose have of your team and have to replace them. Ask your sources about that...

On a separate note...anybody else got All-staters coming in from the state that produces nothing but D1 prospects?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 10, 2006, 11:23:31 AM
Genius,

I guess if you like the misdirection style of football then the CUW guys would be great choice. I personally like the running backs that grind it out. To me they wear down a team more and that is more important than the occaisonal long run you might get from a elusive RB. Its all about the style of the game that you like. Besides Ereg has enough speed to get the job done.  He is not the fastest RB in the conference but like you said "fast enough" to get the job done. So I will say "I would rather face the scat backs from CUW than Ereg."

As for your comments on retention, All schools in this conference deal with retention issues.  Kids transfer in and out.  As well as flunk out in "ALL" schools.
Like I said in an earlier post, Mac has continually raised their acdemic bar for the past 3 to 4 years. If kids do not make the grades they have to go somewhere else. That is a good thing for Mac.  So if it means they loose some players then they loose some players. 
You make it sound as if Mac is the only school having these problems.  You remember 2-time Conference Player of The Year Cedric Simmons from CUW,  why didn't he finnish his senior year?  The list can go on and on. (especially at CUW)  That is just an example.  This happens to every team, every year.
By the way, the recruits are skill positions and Linemen.  And its not sources telling me this info, its myself and the group of coaches we worked with to get these kids to Mac. So it is not hear-say.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 11, 2006, 11:18:29 AM
Genius, how could you say that you would like to have two Mediocre running backs on a good team, with a good O-line than a hard runner that has ALREADY PROVEN HIMSELF with a o.k offensive line. Lets get to the COLD HARD facts..........CUW backs to Ereg....Offensive Back of the year..Ereg **no oline too that year..well i will say not the offensive line CUW has.....2 year 1st team all conference running back..Ereg.....and most likely will be three years next year..... finished 12th in the country in rushing in 2004-2005 and 18th in the country in 2005-2006, that shows consistantsy, was any of the returning backs for CUW that you were talking about close to that?...i dont think so...also look at the conference stats in the last 2 years i beleive you will see Ereg in the top 2 in every rushing category!! So how can you Not be BIAS when the stats are here in black and white!! Pete is one of the hardest runners i have ever been around and seen and he produces year in and year out with O.K offensive line!! do me a favor look at all the 1st and 2nd team all conference offensive lineman that CUW has had in the last two years and look at Macs!! Look above genius at the things that Ereg did with what he had to work with, and tell me that you would choose two, like i said, MEDIOCRE backs, with a GREAT offensive line than a back with no offensive line and still did what he did! Its all there BLACK AND WHITE!!! look it up for yourself.....Put Ereg with that offensive line that CUW has and see what he does! Its ok i am not making up excuses because i am positive that he will be first team all conference again this year!! that will be his third year in a row too!! Tell me Genius why would you choose those two backs becasue really man they HAVE NOT PROVEN SH*T YET to me!! FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, LOOK IT UP GENIUS! I personally dont think anyone wants to see Mac back on top because they play hard nose football game in and game out whatever the score may be!! but i agree with the issue about oline and dline because everything else is there!! Good luck to everyone else in the conference...i just couldnt see a great back being DISRESPECTED like that way he has been in this room! Ereg IS THE BEST RETURNING BACK IN THE CONFERENCE, BELIEVE THAT, i dont want to hear the haters no more..lts all there black and white look it up no one compares!

GO MAC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 11, 2006, 08:56:39 PM
I have to agree with you Reeno 10.  Ereg has done it each year with a mediocre oline.  He has been in the top of the conference, so I would take Ereg over the two CUW backs anyday.  He can wear defenses down with his hard nose running style, which can also control the pace of the game.  It will be interesting to see what happens next year.     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 12, 2006, 01:58:44 AM
Without question, Ereg is the best in the conference this yr, Aarron Gillesppee sorry if it's wrong from CUW s second and then comes Erdman from Lakeland. But if the Dog could only pick one of these 3 then the winner would be EREG hands down. Damn Gomer what do you think of that. I also will say that Mac will be back this yr. Coach Tesfa will have one of the top Defensive teams in the conference. The players and talent is there question only being "WILL THEY LISTEN TO THEIR COACHES AND PLAY WITH ATTITUDE AND PRIDE" That's all that I see lacking. The battle will still come down to Lakeland and CUW for Crown.

Maddog calls it like the Dog see's it!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 12, 2006, 08:51:57 AM
Genius,

I guess i am not the only one who feels that way.  Ereg is the best RB,  Mac will be much inproved and the conference will return to a 4-way battle for the top spot (Mac,CUW,Lakeland and AU). Can't wait for the season to begin.  Highlanders keep working hard.  Get back to the top of the conference!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 12, 2006, 11:47:35 AM
I agree that Ereg is good but I beleive it was the CUW defense that wore him down the last couple years. As for picking one I'll take all three Thunder and Lightning and Lightning. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 12, 2006, 11:53:49 AM
Quote from: falcsfb on May 12, 2006, 11:47:35 AM
I agree that Ereg is good but I beleive it was the CUW defense that wore him down the last couple years. As for picking one I'll take all three Thunder and Lightning and Lightning.

well he can't block and run for himself at the same time.  When he does make contact with defenders they usually feel it more than he does.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 13, 2006, 12:23:00 PM
 Maddog:
  You said," Gomer, what do you think of that?"
     To that i say, finally you got something correct!
     ;D
    By the way, happy birthday.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 15, 2006, 12:32:46 AM
Thanks Gomer :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 15, 2006, 02:02:29 PM
Quote from: NCAA Football on May 11, 2006, 08:56:39 PM
I have to agree with you Reeno 10. Ereg has done it each year with a mediocre oline. He has been in the top of the conference, so I would take Ereg over the two CUW backs anyday. He can wear defenses down with his hard nose running style, which can also control the pace of the game. It will be interesting to see what happens next year.

What will happen next year is simple.  Mac will return to the top of the conference (where they belong) and Ereg will have another great year.  Schmidtke will return to his old form and Martin will catch over 60 balls.  Year two of the 3-4 defense will show tremendous improvement and Pirolo will dominate and have a good chance of becoming an All-American.  Mac has a great coaching staff and they laid the foundation for the future last year.  You will see a much improved Highlander team in 2006!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 15, 2006, 02:38:19 PM
All this mac talk reminds me of the past few years of mac talk.  A lot of hype and then a fall out during the season.  But, maybe this year will be different.

But, when Aaron Gillespie leads the conference in rushing and makes a push at player of the year, I am pretty sure it will be the o-line did it for him.  Ereg's good but I never hear our D complain about playing him.  I love hearing the whole put Ereg on CUW and let him play with that o-line.  We would love another solid back up for A.G so come on over.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 15, 2006, 03:01:16 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on May 15, 2006, 02:38:19 PM
All this mac talk reminds me of the past few years of mac talk. A lot of hype and then a fall out during the season. But, maybe this year will be different.

But, when Aaron Gillespie leads the conference in rushing and makes a push at player of the year, I am pretty sure it will be the o-line did it for him. Ereg's good but I never hear our D complain about playing him. I love hearing the whole put Ereg on CUW and let him play with that o-line. We would love another solid back up for A.G so come on over.

I am glad you have faith in A.G. but if Ereg played for CUW, A.G. would be looking to transfer to CURF so he could get some carries!!  Besides A.G. is used to backing up a  great running back (Mills) so the transition of Ereg to CUW would go smooth.  A.G. would know his role!!  Don'y worry about the Highlanders they will be fine.  I hope everyone doubts them this year.  Go MAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 15, 2006, 06:28:04 PM
Ereg -2nd leading rusher in the conference. He had  55 more carries than #1 Mills and 99 more than #3 Mauri. The only RB in the top 10 who didn't have a better yard per carry avg than Ereg was from CURF.
Just because you have the most yards doesn't mean you are the best. You must look deeper.

My analysis:
Ereg-great downhill runner. Tries to run too many people over. he doens't make defenders have to arm tackle him because he is tight in the hips. He does finish his runs...always fall forward.Good RB..not great. Backup RB #3 may be a better runner. More elusive and strong. he doesn't get carries but he stands out when he runs the ball.

Gillespie- shifty from side to side. You don't get clean shots on him. Forces defenders to arm tackle him and he is breaks the arm tackles. Not a power back but good balance. Enought speed to finish the run.

Erdman- Not even worth talking about. he wasn't even the guy on his team in the 4th qtr when the game was on the line. Average back good oline. This year will tell alot. That is enought said.

Reeno10- Just because i don't think Ereg is the best back doesn't mean i am disrespecting him. He is good just not the best.
Why is it in the sports world if some one doesn't consider you to be as good as you think you are then it must be disrespect? More humilty in the sports world and less ego/pride would help.

IBFC-Alum...who cares if someone else agrees with you. Majority numbers doesn't mean you are correct. Also, who cares if defenders feel it when tackling Ereg. What matters is breaking tackles not tripping over someone you tried to run over.

Bottomline...i suspect Ereg will get a bunch of carries and be at the top again of the league rushing. That isn't my criteria of who the best back in the league is though. If had my choice of who i would least like to play against...i'd say Gillespie. He is more dangerous in his scheme then Ereg is in his scheme.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 16, 2006, 12:11:40 PM
Well put.  Good research also.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 16, 2006, 09:27:19 PM
So, what about TE, FB and SS.  Since everyone likes talking about O-line and LB, arent TE and FB just glorified O-lineman and SS fast linebackers.  So lets hear it, who is going to be good at those positions this year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 17, 2006, 12:31:07 PM
Genius,

If majority numbers does not make me correct (like you siad) and Ereg being the leading returning rusher does not make me correct  what makes you correct on picking Gillespie? You have to understand Ereg is not a homerun type of back (you already said that) so of course he is not leading in YPG.

So you pick Gillespie based on the facts that  he is "shifty", was second string and has "enough speed to finnish the run".  Nice credentials!!! I think Ereg's credentials are better. But we are just beating a dead horse here. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me,  I just don't see what you are basing your decision off of. All I want to know is WHAT IS YOUR CRITERIA? 

I agree with you on the statement that you never disrespected Ereg, its just constructive crticism from your point of view. Erdman I refuse to even comment on.  The back-up RB from Mac is a good one but his time will come.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 17, 2006, 01:29:10 PM
IBFC_alum

RB criteria from a defensive perspective... who would i least like to face. The 2 big things i look at  is vision and break tackle ability. Then i look at their speed.
It doesn't seem like many established RBs are back this year so in terms of who has the best combo of vision, break tackle ability and speed i'd choose gillespie.

footballisfun,
TE, FB,SS i can't think of anyone who stands out who is a returner. all the notable TEs last year were seniors. No FB stood out to me. Maybe Bene's but he's gone. Throw out some names/#s and maybe i'd have an opinion on them.

I'd be interested in your opinions on Top offensive and defensive schemes in the conference... Offensive- CUW (although they don't pass enough) Defensive- GC or Lakeland
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 17, 2006, 03:22:22 PM
I am not going to comment anymore on whatever Genius is talking about bc everyone has opnions and thats ok bc facts speak for themselves but that is not what i want to talk about...obviously we got some pro CUW posters here and thats ok too you got to rep your squad some times DUDE!!! SO heres what i got to say Mac is too deep right now in the offenseive skill positions....Mac will have almost all there skilled positions be 1st or 2nd team all conference players coiming to the table...and as far as a defense is concerned....i heard that 4 teams conference and non conference games  rushed for over hundred yards rushing againset a 3-4 defense that mac has..4 thats it...all mac has to do is get the offense to roll and this team will be on top but for someone to say lakelands defense is going to be good again next year...that is al little far fetched considering i would think it would be a rebuilding year for that defense loosing two all american players....i dont know just my opinon....everyone will route for there teams but i want everyone to know its been 3 years come up to four years that mac has got a ring and i am telling you with the talent that have offensively especailly defensivley this team is long pat DUE!!!I am not saying anythign about any other team bc football is footballl!!!

GO MAC

p.s- Larry you better be lifting kid because you got a X on your chest this year...i got my rings wheres yours!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 17, 2006, 04:17:15 PM
Well lets see who is coming back:
AU:
   FB: Nick Paxson #26 Sr.
   SS: Nick Gniedziejko #18 JR. (Not sure if he is there SS or not but he was a Safty for them)

BU:
   SS: Anthony Borsellino #1 Sr.

CURF:
   FB: #47
   SS: #22
   TE: #13

CUW:
   TE: Trent Duckett # 15 So. (not sure if he was their starter or not)

Eureka:
   Couldnt find anything on them

GC:
   SS: Seth England #20 Jr.
   TE: Logan Patton #80 So.

LC:
  TE: Martin Ringiesen #88 Sr

Mac:
  FB: Greig Spuhler #44 Jr.
  SS: Chris Flaggs #2 Jr.

Those are who are returning from each team, if I am wrong someone please tell me.  The SS from AU isnt bad but you were right, there really arent very big names ruturning to those positions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 18, 2006, 03:00:46 AM
Footballsfun, never herd of this TE from Lakeland and I have been following Lakeland for 4 yrs now. As for not mentioning Erdman from Lakeland as a top runner well time will tell. Lakelands "D" is not rebuilding in fact I feel they have even more speed at LB and D-Line than last years team. Take it to the bank watch out for Bobby Busha (Wagner). Numbers wise CUW has the best D talent with Langston and Allen. I have to say that Lakeland is not far behind as well as MAC, who has the potential to take the top over, remember what I said "WILL THEY LISTEN TO THEIR COACHES and alsoWILL THEY PLAY WITH ATTITUDE AND CLEAN. leave the fighting for the thugs on the street. If Mac can do this then they have a chance to win the conference, Otherwise I have to say its between Lakeland and CUW. This year is going to be fun.

For those interested in how Van Doo Loo and Maiuri are doing in Europe, Well Van Doo Loo is the leading tackler in the south division and Maiuri is the leading Intersceptor in the north Division. His adjustment to Defense from being a QB all his life has been very difficult at the least and alot of studyng at best. He has 3 INT's in 4 games, 1 returned 90 yrds for a TD, Last weeks INT with 1.18 sec left as the other team was driving for another score, was caught in the back of the endzone and returned 60 yrs allowing his team the Blue Devils to drive the remaining 40 yrds to score the winning TD with 3 sec left on the clock 20-19 to stay undefeated in the north division. Hopefully both the Ryan will meet ing the Europe Bowl and play each other. Representing the IBFC very well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 18, 2006, 10:11:03 AM
Genius,

If vision and breaking tackles are your criteria, then that sounds a lot like Ereg to me.

I also think that you will be very impressed with what Mac does defensively this year.  They have a couple of very impressive defensive players coming in this year that should really help them out.  On the offensive side of the ball,I think Mac will throw the ball a lot more this year as well as grind it out with Ereg. Mac has a great weapon in Martin and another reciever new to the mix this year that really open the field up for Martin.  The O-Line will be much improved.

My picks
Offensive scheme - CUW

Defensive - Mac
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 18, 2006, 11:27:31 AM
Maddog....I would have to say that, that was very well put......only time will tell and yes i believe that Mac and Greenville will have the best Defenses in the conference because they have two of teh best linebackers int he conference and no one can take that from those teams....Terry Martin will be good next year and i like i said before mac will have all of there skill postions on offense be ethier 1st or second team all conference players, its what maddog said will they listen to there coach?? and will they put there thug mentality aside?? but macs defense will be there
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 18, 2006, 09:20:50 PM
Quote from: Genius on May 17, 2006, 01:29:10 PM
IBFC_alum

RB criteria from a defensive perspective... who would i least like to face. The 2 big things i look at  is vision and break tackle ability. Then i look at their speed.
It doesn't seem like many established RBs are back this year so in terms of who has the best combo of vision, break tackle ability and speed i'd choose gillespie.

footballisfun,
TE, FB,SS i can't think of anyone who stands out who is a returner. all the notable TEs last year were seniors. No FB stood out to me. Maybe Bene's but he's gone. Throw out some names/#s and maybe i'd have an opinion on them.

I'd be interested in your opinions on Top offensive and defensive schemes in the conference... Offensive- CUW (although they don't pass enough) Defensive- GC or Lakeland


Genius,

Ereg is a back that meets all of your criteria.  He is also an established running back that has accomplished a heck of a lot in the IBFC.  I don't understand how you can pick someone that wasn;t even a starter last lear over Ereg.  Ereg may be a tough runner, but he also has the ability to break tackles.  Also, don't let Ereg's speed fool you, he is faster than you think he is. 

As for best offensive scheme, Im not real sure yet, but i really can't see CUW as having the best scheme.  they don't even throw the ball that often. 

As for the best defensive scheme, Greenville still has that really good linebacker.  i think teams are going to have to look out for Lakelands and MacMurrays Defense.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 19, 2006, 08:41:59 AM
NCAA Football,

CUW has a very effective scheme even though they do not throw the ball that often.  But if they want to be a factor when the playoffs roll around, they will have to do both.  If they run into a team that can shut down the run game, they have to be able to put the ball in the air.  Still a greta scheme for their talent.
Lakeland has a lot of holes to fill but they have a great head coach who knows how to win. They play good defense and are always physically tough.  Lakeland will be tough to beat home and away.
Greenville had a great year but I am not sold on them yet. If they could string two good years in a row together, they may be on to something. They have a great LB who orchestrates their defense.
Aurora I thought underachieved last year.  I think they will be a much improved ball club this year.  They always are tough to beat. Still a team adapting to new coaching styles.

This year several teams have the chance to win it.  In my mind their is no clear cut favorite.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 19, 2006, 09:27:24 AM
Ereg does meet all of my criteria. Any starting back in the conference should be able to have vision, break tackles and have some speed. It isn't a matter of does he possess all 3 but is he the best at all 3. I don't think so but he's is a good RB in the conference. A 4.3 yard per carry avg is bad in college football. NFL that is a good avg. college that is suspect! We all have different opinions so i will let whoever responses have the last word on the RB issue.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 19, 2006, 12:56:20 PM
IBFC_Alum,

I agree that the CUW scheme is effective.  I just don't think it is the best.  I agree with you, that when the playoffs come around, they are going to have to throw the ball against the better teams, which is why they should throw it more in the season.  Lakeland may have some holes to fill, but they will still be in the run for the top spot.  Greenville still may be suspect, but I would still keep my eye on them, they can surprise some people this year.  And as for Mac, they just have to listen to the staff and play tough.  If they do that, they can be just as good as anyone.  Anyway, all I am trying to say is in my mind, there is no favorite yet.  We are just going to have to wait till the season begins and watch how things play out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 20, 2006, 09:21:56 AM
CUW is a great offensive scheme. The suspect that most defenses in the conference spend more time preparing for what they do than anyone else. Now...if your defense is better than their offense it doesn't matter what scheme you have.

it keep reading if mac players will listen to the coaches they have a chance. FYI... if players don't listen to the coaches then it is the coaches fault. That is a coach job, motivate players to follow and listen to you. If they don't listen it is because they don't trust that you know what you are doing or you recruited the wrong type of people (kids that don't listen to anyone). Either way it is the coach's responsibility.

question...how many other starters on d does Mac have other than Pirrollo. i read 3 post about their d. who else do they have? anybody else on 1st or 2nd team all conference returning? 1 player, no matter how good doesn't make a defense.

Ask Ray Lewis and his complaining this off season.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 20, 2006, 01:54:27 PM
They didnt make 1st or 2nd team but a OLB named Jordan Missy made it as a freshman and a DT made it named Neal White who will be a Sr. this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 21, 2006, 11:10:22 AM
Correction Jordan did make 2nd team and a LB named Scotty Gregory made 2nd team as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 21, 2006, 09:39:54 PM
Sounds like Mac may have the best LB corps coming back this season. With one 1st teamer and two 2nd teams. If those 3 guys are that good i would have expected them to give up a few less points than over 30 per game.

Anybody else got a good or better LB corps than mac?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 21, 2006, 11:59:41 PM
BU returns all of its starting LB, 1 of them was 2nd team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 22, 2006, 11:09:31 AM
just one thing....mac only let up 4 teams over one hundred yards rushing and one of those teams barely made it in the late fourth quarter so i would have to say that speaks volumes about the linebacking core at mac being that it was there first year in that scheme....this year will be the second year with all of there linebackers returning.....to what i heard it was the secondary leting those points up... but thats not the point macs linebackers are going to be straight your forgeting that my boy dominated the conference last year in tackles and he has a supporting cast now soo that only seems to me that it might be a repeat preformance of last season (YOU BETTER BE LIFTING, BRUCE BRO HAHA)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 22, 2006, 11:50:41 AM
Mac's D was in the middle of the pack last year.  On the IBC page it shows that thru 9 games mac was giving up 358 yds a game.  170 a game rushing.  If they only allowed 4 teams over 100 and 1 barely, then those 3  other teams must have ran for 250.  They also gave up 5.2 yds a play.  That will need to improve for them to compete for the title. 
Reeno you say that the DB's were giving up the TD's.  Mac gave up 38 TD's and only 15 of them came through the air.  I'm not that good with math, but I think that is less than half.  Mac's great individual stats mean nothing, a takes a team to win a championship.  If the role players on the team can improve, they have the stars to compete.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 22, 2006, 12:58:50 PM
Well, first off we were talking about linebacking cores in the conference first off, second off i was going off what i heard..i wasnt there last season..and i am not going to be indepth with this because of certain situations such as red zone scoring etc. and how does a team get into the red zone?? long passes maybe!! For what i heard...Benedictine, CUW, Wooster, and Lakeland (Barely) all went over one hundred yards!! and i beleive BU and CUW were the only teams that had the most success in doing so...Stay on topic Da One, we are talk about linebacking cores, i am just trying to state that mac has the best linebacking cores in the conference hands down! but who ever your posting for has to be better soo there is no point into arguing just stating my OPINION! Remember last year was the first year with a new scheme and the linebackers for mac did do a decent job...thats all i am saying so who are you trying to prove wrong here or should i say what team are you trying to hype right now??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 22, 2006, 02:49:08 PM
Reeno,
For starters, no one is arguing with you.  Mac may have the best LB's in the IBC. My bad for getting off topic.  All the Mac supporters are talking about the great numbers that their top players put up.  The only number that matters is number of wins.  As I said, Mac has three of the top players in the league at their respective positions.  However, weather or not they have the role players to compete for a title is debatable.  I'm definately not trying to hype any team.  My team left the IBC last year when Coach Scott retired from AU with 4 titles in 7 years. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 22, 2006, 03:40:11 PM
Reeno10, where do you get your facts, Maiuri had over 150yrd rushing and over 150 passing ins just 3 quarters against Mac so I find it hard for you to say LAKELAND barely got over 100, unless ONE individual at 150+ is barely, that's not countng the other 2 good running backs they have. When an O-Line like Lakelands is blowing you out of the water ONE LB is not enough. Believe me I want Mac to do good this year for I am friends with your 2 Saginaw Coaches. I want them to be successful. Honestly don't write unless you have factual info.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 22, 2006, 03:50:34 PM
In addition I will say that Lakeland will be right up there with Mac for the top LB core, Never, Never, Never underestimate Bobby Busha, and Mr. Hornes pay attention to this season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 22, 2006, 04:18:36 PM
Point understood maddog....and point understood with DA ONE.....With everything being said over the last couple weeks....what teams, players etc... do will make impacts on next season??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 22, 2006, 04:58:46 PM
Maddog,

Lakeland better have some more dominate dlineman if bobby boushay and the rest of the crew will be as good as they were last year. THe DE was the best player in the conference last year in my opinion. And DT #75 was a very good nose tackle. He probably didn't have a bunch of stats but he was a force inside.

Are there guys who will be close to there level?  If not those lbs may be in trouble.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 22, 2006, 05:22:03 PM
Genius, Shane Schrimpp (I know I spelled this wrong) he was first team DL his soph. yr was in a accident the next yr and played last yr but  was second team. they also have all there DB's coming back, not the greatest group last yr but then again they were learning how to play as a unit, more mature n=and physical from last yr. Plus they have my man Tyrece back again. Lakeland will be soilid on D. Wagner will be 1st team All-American LB by time he is a Senior.

Mac has a stud LB and Coach Tesfa will have them hitting harder and more poised then in the past. Saginaw was not ranked # 3/4 the past three season in DII because there D was not prepared. Coach Tesfa can claim ownership for those rankings. He knows talent in fact John DiGorgio one of his Saginaw LB's just signed with the Buffalo Bills.  Could Mac's Stud be NEXT???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 23, 2006, 03:04:40 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on May 22, 2006, 03:40:11 PM
Reeno10, where do you get your facts, Maiuri had over 150yrd rushing and over 150 passing ins just 3 quarters against Mac so I find it hard for you to say LAKELAND barely got over 100, unless ONE individual at 150+ is barely, that's not countng the other 2 good running backs they have. When an O-Line like Lakelands is blowing you out of the water ONE LB is not enough. Believe me I want Mac to do good this year for I am friends with your 2 Saginaw Coaches. I want them to be successful. Honestly don't write unless you have factual info.

http://www.lakeland.edu/athletics/football/stats05/1008lcmc.htm

well thats says that ryan only had 67 yards rushing against mac.  LC still had 190 rushing yards total and your son did throw for 179 yard but that says he didnt rush for over 150
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 23, 2006, 03:07:23 AM
Ryan did also have to only rushing TD that day (he scored all the TD that day execpt for an INT and a blocked punt)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 23, 2006, 04:56:18 AM
Footballsfun, you are correct I was looking at 04's stats, where he rushed for over 100 and threw for over 100 and scored 4 TD'd two rushing and two passing. Never the less if it was not for his O-Line he would be like Ereg, great player behind average line. My opinion, and opinion's are like azzholes, we all have one. The O-line and LB's make the game what it is!!!!!!!!! Lakelands O-Line will be HUGH and TOUGH, QB has best arm I have seen in conference play, very  accurate and good touch with 2 outstanding receivers in White and Royal. There LB"S have size speed and plenty of HURT to dish out. Mac"s LB"S are very Strong, fast and too have plenty of HURT to dish out, ave QB (who has potential to be a great one) unless he play's with HEART. question can and will there O-line show up for THE BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE CONFERENCE EREG!!!!!!! CUW will NO DOUBT have the most DOMINATE D-LINE IN THE CONFERENCE, AVE. LB'S, Excellent runner in Gilleppsee ( lord I suck at spelling names) good O-line, questionable QB because they have 2 to choose from.  Greenville will be back I don't be leave they were a fluk, excellant Coaching staff and one of the best if not the best LB in the business, lots of holes to fill both on O and D. Schopp will be one of the top DB's in the conference. Sorry Aurora, but Hornang can't do it all by himself, ave line, ave running backs and a few good receivers, lots of holes on D to fill (2 main one's Perry and Davison at DB's)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 23, 2006, 10:27:30 AM
Thanks footballisfun....i guess what i heard was somewhat accurate.....and maddog you are right bout ryan bc what i heard he did it all that day!! I think it will be close next year for linebacker of the year but i am sure my boy from lake mary florida will pull it out!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 23, 2006, 12:19:43 PM
Reeno10, he should be he was I believe second team all-american DIII on Don Hansens Football Gazzette north region. Plus this would give Mac much deserved credit. Coach Tesfa will make it happen
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ibfc on May 23, 2006, 11:48:23 PM
You guys say teams are going to smack Eureka, Bene, and CURF and then you say the wrong players are returning from certain schools.  First of all this is one of the weakest conferences in the nation anyone can win at anytime.  Lakeland lost a lot of O and D playmakers but look to fill in the holes and WILL NOT WIN IT ALL they can't do it without the arm and this new guy is nothing, and come one their Oline isn't going to be that great...Dline took huge hits and so did the LB and DB's...CUW can have a great Dline all they want how are they going to score...with lame misdirection plays that everyone has seen a million times not to mention the fact that most teams are going to a 3-4 scheme with flowing LBS all it takes is a little dicipline to stop CUW.  CUW will start 0-4 and won't rebound,Not to mention the fact that they have 2 qbs with terrible arms.  So that takes us to AU....well they have a great QB with no one to throw the ball to and one of the weakest Olines in the conference.  Not to mention the task of replacing key players on D this team slipped last year and will fall to the lower half of the IBC.  OH no the superpowers of the IBC are all knocked out.  Well, let's talk about Greenville, this is a team returning several key players this was a very competitive team last year playing close games with CUW and Lake look for Greenville to compete for the IBC championship..as for the supposive pushovers of the Conference Benne looks to improve on some great things that they did last year...but what are they bringing back some undersized LBS and a soft oline and dline come on this will be the 2nd worst team in the conference next to Eureka who returns nothing and is building on nothing....it's hard to recruit to a school that quits games.  I'm hoping this is a bold statement but CURF is going to be the darkhorse of this conference in 2006.  If you look at their schedule they have the opportunity to get on a great roll the first half of the season...playing blackburn, Eureka, benne, U of Chicago, Rose-Hulman...etc.  with their first big game coming against an over hyped Mac team.  With a new coach and scheme some new recruits and a few wins look for CURF to roll, not to mention the fact that they return everyone from O minus 3 players, and return their D minus 3 players. You can Talk about the Lakelands and CUW, I think with all the holes and question marks anyone can win this....anyways they'll be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.....oh and MAC is terrible...maybe they can be good if they learn some discipline...doubt it though.... GREENVILLE!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 24, 2006, 01:00:16 AM
Those are all very bold statements and are sure to make a lot of people mad.  As for Greenville, they made huge strides in their play last year but you have to remember that people rated them as huge underdogs and they used that to their advantage.  Next year though people will be expecting that from them and they wont supprise a lot of teams.  On top of that they lose a lot of good players on O. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 24, 2006, 01:59:22 AM
Who is this IBFC guy rooting for this season..........seems to be a HUGE HATTER and jealous bc no one seems to talk about his squad!!! Who are you rooting for IBFC??? I would love to know since this team that you are rooting for is that much better than all the basically every team in the conference!! If you are a "Hater," than your comments are irrealvant bc personally talk is cheap and the sh*t that your talking right now is funny bro!! I hope your not talking about greenville neither bc they are not much better than any team in the conference!!! Thats your opinion and thats cool but really it makes me laugh, its good to have a joke in the room.... everything you say after that post is just humor....keep it up BRO, its interesting to see your jealousy because no one is reconizing your team thats kid stuff and if you are just a hater that will be the topping on the cake!! Jealousy is a B*TCH, if you are for a school dont talk about it....BE ABOUT IT!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 24, 2006, 09:55:26 AM
IBFC,
Why all the hate?  Yes CURF returns alot of starters, but they only won, oh wait, NO games last year.  I think Coach Pries will shake things up a bit, but to call them a contender is crazy!!  You would think with the great location (practically in the city), nice field, and new coach, they should be able to turn things around.  Most people forget one factor, CURF is a Missouri Sinod Lutheran school.  This is not a knock on the Missouri Sinod, but they tend to be more strick than say an ELCA (Augie) school.  Which leads to a strick campus, tough team rules, and religous expectations for the players.  Add that to the fact that they haven't won in a long time.  All that makes it very tough to recruit.  I hope Coach Pries is able to get it going because that only helps the conference.  IBCF, you have to walk before you can run and CURF has be a quadrapilegic for about 20 years. 
I think there will be some surprises this year, but nothing crazy!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 24, 2006, 11:21:26 AM
In the last 3 years how many times have CUW been held to last than 21 pts in the conference?  Not very often. For all the haters of their offense, more teams need to slow them down other than AU and Lakeland. and they need to slow them down more consistently. At that point i'd consider all the people saying their scheme is too simple or they don't pass enough.

GC- if they get a QB they maybe dangerous. Their qb was bad last year and they couldn't do anything offfensively against  most of the teams in the conference. If they don't have a QB people will get off their bandwagon really quick.

Lakeland- if they don't have a QB (dual threat)...stick a fork in them. They won't beat CUW and may be fighting for 3rd place. I can't imagine that they'll be just as good or even better losing most of the oline, best players on defense and the best offensive player in the conference, the QB. Maddog may have a comment on that but you are fooling yourself if you think all that can be replaced with backups. Especailly ones who didn't play last year.

In this conference you better have a QB who makes plays in your system.
Aurora has one. CUW has one.  Everyone else is suspect.

Key point in this statement. A playmaker at QB to fit your offensive system.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 24, 2006, 11:44:14 AM
In my opinion to win in any conference, you need to be solid on the offensive and defensive lines.  Having a good QB helps, but it is pretty hard to complete a pass from your back.  It is also tough to so from the sidelines, if your D can't get the other teams O off the field.  I played on 3 IBC champ teams and only one year did we have a good QB.  We always had dominant O and D lines.  The wing-t that CUW runs is a primative offense, but it goes to show that schemes are only as good as the players playing in them.  CUW has had good players.  College football is 70% recruiting and 30% coaching.  However, they will need to throw the ball more to compete at the national level.  CUW opens the season with 2 tough opponents.  Simpson and North Central are both solid teams. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 24, 2006, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: Genius on May 24, 2006, 11:21:26 AM
In the last 3 years how many times have CUW been held to last than 21 pts in the conference?  Not very often. For all the haters of their offense, more teams need to slow them down other than AU and Lakeland. and they need to slow them down more consistently. At that point i'd consider all the people saying their scheme is too simple or they don't pass enough.

GC- if they get a QB they maybe dangerous. Their qb was bad last year and they couldn't do anything offfensively against  most of the teams in the conference. If they don't have a QB people will get off their bandwagon really quick.

Lakeland- if they don't have a QB (dual threat)...stick a fork in them. They won't beat CUW and may be fighting for 3rd place. I can't imagine that they'll be just as good or even better losing most of the oline, best players on defense and the best offensive player in the conference, the QB. Maddog may have a comment on that but you are fooling yourself if you think all that can be replaced with backups. Especailly ones who didn't play last year.

In this conference you better have a QB who makes plays in your system.
Aurora has one. CUW has one.  Everyone else is suspect.

Key point in this statement. A playmaker at QB to fit your offensive system.

Genius,

Who is the projected starter at qb for CUW next year.  i thought the starter this past year graduated, and # 17 got into some academic trouble.  this is just a rumor i had heard, is #17 coming back, if not, who is their experienced qb that is going to start? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 24, 2006, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: ibfc on May 23, 2006, 11:48:23 PM
You guys say teams are going to smack Eureka, Bene, and CURF and then you say the wrong players are returning from certain schools.  First of all this is one of the weakest conferences in the nation anyone can win at anytime.  Lakeland lost a lot of O and D playmakers but look to fill in the holes and WILL NOT WIN IT ALL they can't do it without the arm and this new guy is nothing, and come one their Oline isn't going to be that great...Dline took huge hits and so did the LB and DB's...CUW can have a great Dline all they want how are they going to score...with lame misdirection plays that everyone has seen a million times not to mention the fact that most teams are going to a 3-4 scheme with flowing LBS all it takes is a little dicipline to stop CUW.  CUW will start 0-4 and won't rebound,Not to mention the fact that they have 2 qbs with terrible arms.  So that takes us to AU....well they have a great QB with no one to throw the ball to and one of the weakest Olines in the conference.  Not to mention the task of replacing key players on D this team slipped last year and will fall to the lower half of the IBC.  OH no the superpowers of the IBC are all knocked out.  Well, let's talk about Greenville, this is a team returning several key players this was a very competitive team last year playing close games with CUW and Lake look for Greenville to compete for the IBC championship..as for the supposive pushovers of the Conference Benne looks to improve on some great things that they did last year...but what are they bringing back some undersized LBS and a soft oline and dline come on this will be the 2nd worst team in the conference next to Eureka who returns nothing and is building on nothing....it's hard to recruit to a school that quits games.  I'm hoping this is a bold statement but CURF is going to be the darkhorse of this conference in 2006.  If you look at their schedule they have the opportunity to get on a great roll the first half of the season...playing blackburn, Eureka, benne, U of Chicago, Rose-Hulman...etc.  with their first big game coming against an over hyped Mac team.  With a new coach and scheme some new recruits and a few wins look for CURF to roll, not to mention the fact that they return everyone from O minus 3 players, and return their D minus 3 players. You can Talk about the Lakelands and CUW, I think with all the holes and question marks anyone can win this....anyways they'll be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.....oh and MAC is terrible...maybe they can be good if they learn some discipline...doubt it though.... GREENVILLE!!!!

ibfc,

I just want to know a few things.  Number 1, where do you get your information.  Benedictine, Eureka, and CURF have not had the best programs in the past.  We are not talking smack, we are just being logical.  With the programs that these schools have, it is hard to recruit.  A school can't get good players if they can't win ballgames.  Number 2, where do you get your information on these schools like Lakeland, CUW, Greenville, and Mac.  I can assure you that these teams will be ok.  Lakeland, CUW, and Mac will all be competitive this year, and Greenville may surprise some teams.  I think that if anyone on this board is talking smack, it is you.  You need to get your facts straight before you post. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WAGNER40 on May 24, 2006, 03:59:11 PM
Talk is cheap. The teams that put forth the effort these next months will be dominant.  Talent is nothing without effort, determination, and the will to be the better team on that day.  I am bias and I say if you look at Lakeland's work ethic and dedication, you will have no doubt in the fight of our team.  We will be the better team come gametime regardless who tries step up.  Get on our level because we are working harder now more than ever.  We will take our shots but we will come right back and smash you in the mouth.  Pain train's coming and you better get off the tracks.  We will not allow anyone to get in our way. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 24, 2006, 05:00:43 PM
Wow.....we got a freshman posting now from lakeland......well sophomore now!!! I am glad the pain train is coming because i am sure the "pain train," is coming with every team in the conference....hey wagner do something in the conference before posting your thoughts on the website..... i will be sure to relay the message to my boy #9 at mac he should know all about the pain train!!!! Dont write checks that your ASS cant cash underclassman!!! CHILDREN ARE TO BE SEEN NOT HEARD!!! get some upperclassman status and actually do something before you talk your little game!! Thanks... Lakeland will be alright but wont be any close to the power house as they once were......you say this year or 2 ago maybe we wouldnt say anything back but than again you were still in high school trying to figure out where you were going to go to college!! But that is good that everyone is working hard at lakeland just like every other team in the conference! Watch out for the PAIN TRAIN #40 from lakeland an honerable mention linebacker
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WAGNER40 on May 24, 2006, 07:43:26 PM
Your right, I'll let my game speak when I knock your block off.  What's your name again?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 24, 2006, 09:05:04 PM
Quote from: WAGNER40 on May 24, 2006, 07:43:26 PM
Your right, I'll let my game speak when I knock your block off.  What's your name again?

Settle down Wagner 40.  All Reeno 10 is saying is do something before you talk.  if it that big of a deal to you, prove him wrong when your season starts, and if you know anything about Reeno 10, you would already know he graduated and was a great athlete.  so dont get all offended, he was making a valid point.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WAGNER40 on May 24, 2006, 10:08:33 PM
This a agree with it.  I know I have shoes to fill.  I am very excited about the oppurtunity to play this great game of football with some very worthy opponents.  It really doesn't faze me what others think or say because it all comes down to who has prepared the most.  If anything, people talking bull**** just makes me throw up that last set or last sprint with added authority.  I simply am praising my abilitites and my team like everyone else. Never been much for talking smack, it's interesting who gets offended.  I will no longer put comments on here if people don't want to hear what I have to say.  that's fine with me.  It's not the size or bark of dog in the fight, It's all about the fight in the dog.  Been an honor speaking football, Best be paying attention when the whistles are blown because whatever happens is the only thing that really matters.  Preparing to Win with every oz. of energy that we have can be our difference maker.  I need to go take care of what needs to be done.  Fate will intervein.  Good Luck to all.  See ya come gametime.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 24, 2006, 10:22:18 PM
OOO Sh*t, THis keeps getting funnier and funnier.......We got Vince Lombardi, himself, here!!! Thanks for proving my point KID!!! CHILDREN ARE TO BE SEEN NOT HEARD!!! thanks for not posting anymore its doing us all a favor!! Like i said i am glad you are working hard but i garrantee that linebacker from Greenville is working hard too, so is my boy #9 from mac which he will hear about this all and trust me these two have proven themselves already...also i am sure Ereg from mac is preparing himself for the Pain Train too...and the running backs from CUW are preparing themselves too!! are they posting right now!! NOO they are to busy! It seems like you act like your sh*t and lakelands sh*t dont stink neither....what gets me is do you really think everyone else is just sitting on the couch right now!! No there arent, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE WON IN THE OFF SEASON!! So dont cheat the game and the conference for its ultimate prize of the conference championship bc i garrantee that every team is working just as hard if not harder than what your saying!! Man i wish i was playing bc i know i would teach a lesson bout running your mouth but for now i will leave my two boys to do it....there #'s 22 from mac and #9!! again dont write checks your ass cant cash!!! Thanks kid you just made it interesting!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 25, 2006, 12:58:23 AM
Oh, I love all this.  Justin Lewis is our QB at CUW next season.  He has amazing running ability and a cannon for an arm.  He can launch a football farther than anyone in the conference.  But, he has been inconsistent as a passer.  The thing that people love about him is how much the game means to him.  How much a mistake pains him and how much he loves to win.

As for wagner 40 I can tell you are taking great offense to all this.  But, I will say talking on here once or twice a day will not keep a player from getting in their training.  Lets be serious.  But, if you are gonna get on here and talk, don't be a idiot.  Reeno10 was a wide out that was multiple 1st team conference and probably an all american his senior year.  Probably could knock your block off as well. 

All the top teams are working hard in the off season.  CUW lost Manny Mills, but return a hell of a lot of talent.  I see CUW running away with conference only to be contended by lakeland.  With CUW Lakeland, i dont care what the records are, who the players are, who the coaches are.  That is gonna be a ball game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 03:00:47 AM
Usually when I post about an athlete it is pretty accurate about there talent and abitlity to play the game, My "ALL MADDOG TEAM'S" are very accurate even before the IBFC TEAM's are posted. LIsten when I say that I PERSONALLY WILL WRITE ANY CHECK WAGNER WANT WRTTEN!!!! Reeno10 I am sure you were a great wide out but trust me Wagner would knock your block off, Your boy #9 from Mac is a STUD no Doubt and the best in the conference at this point, Greenville's LB is another STUD and will compete for the top spot against #9 from Mac. MY CHECK SAY THAT WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE WAGNER WILL BE ON TOP OF THEM ALL!!!!! A s for Wilk at QB for Lakeland, well lets just say he will fill Ryans shoes very well, NO doubt in my mind about that statement. The title will come down to Lakeland and CUW bottomline. Greenville and Mac will be right up there competing for that title. Mac is one yr away from what I see, that's not to say they can't overcome it this yr and win it all. But again my check is going on Wagner and Lakeland again. As for being Honerable Mention well thats pretty good considering he's a Freshman coming into the league, He'll be first team this yr as a Soph. WERE YOU GUYS FIRST TEAM AS SOPH??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 08:37:04 AM
 Maddog...................don`t you ever go to work?
      :D :
  One other thing, Lakeland gets throttled by
   Eureka.   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 09:13:01 AM
Pyle, 15 hours a day plus what I read and post, Listen to Srgt. Carter never Eureka, Whitewater MAYBE!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 09:19:31 AM
Then again NOT even Whitewater ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 09:44:25 AM
John read don't write, FOCUS on one team, and one team only WHITEWATER, there is no need to talk you will no doubt prove your point on the field, (2) I'll do Lakelands smack talkin with my other has-been friends on this site. Keep reading and working hard and LEADERSHIP ON THE FIELD WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF!! I must say I love when a person is confident enough in himself to call out players, No sham or hidding behind mamma's skirt like some players who write on this site. Focus and read don't write. This is going to be an exciting season full of punishment throughout the conference, in fact I will go out on a limb and say that the IBFC will win there first PLAYOFF GAME this season. If you guys bust eachother during the season the winner should be ready for the playoffs. There is a lot of "D" talent in this conferences to go around. Mac, Greenville, CUW, BU, and Lakeland all have top players coming back, as does AU, CURF, and Eureka. In addition there are some very excellent coaches on ALL the TEAMs, Bring on SEPT. 06
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 25, 2006, 10:56:53 AM
Maddog,
Care to make a friendly wager (LC football t-shirt for LC football t-shirt), on an IBC team winning a playoff game.  Here's how I see it.  IBC is considered the weakest league in the North region.  I'm not saying its true, but that is the word on the street.  As long as that is the case, the IBC winner will play the 1 or 2 seed in the region, correct?  This potentially puts them against Mt. Union, Augie, Wabash, teams like that.  I don't think that any team in the IBC will be at the level of those quality programs from quality conferences. 

Wags buddy,
Even if you have all the confidence in the world in yourself, why put a big target on your back by getting on here and posting.  Learn a lesson from T.O.  Just go play and stay focused on what you have to do, not what people outside of your program are saying. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 12:48:38 PM
My good friend Da One, bet! althought you should have given me and LC shirt last yr when I drove to Decora to see you guys play Wartburg. I will try to make a game this yr again if possible and have work off,  should make the scrimmage. Yes and Lc shirt for and LC shirt if IBFC rep wins playoff game. And good luck to your LC this yr, I have you guys pegged to win your conference in Iowa
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WAGNER40 on May 25, 2006, 12:48:56 PM
My picks on the conference. Doesn't MacMurry have a combined conference record of 9-12 over the past 3 years in conference play? Unless they have tons of stud freshman coming in i really don't see MacMurry winning more than 3 maybe 4 games next year in conference. Benedictine has super nice facilities but there football team still sucks. Eureka may only beat CURF. CURF try to break one of the current nations long losing streaks. Greenville tough defense with a lot returning. Losing some keys on offense. Aurora had down year last year but could surprise, CUW will be tough, lot of returners like us, Lakeland 3-time champs.  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 25, 2006, 01:39:15 PM
I thought that we already discussed that the past doesnt matter.  Besides in this conf. anything can happen on Sat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 01:40:41 PM
 Wanner40: Just for the record........................................It`s  MacMurray,
  not.........MacMurry.
  As a player (i assume) in the IBC you should at least know the correct spelling of your opponents.
  Maybe in your zeal to tout your "Thunder of Zor"
  persona, which will certainly be tested by all the
  players you have dished , you fingers got ahead
   of your brain then my apologies.
  In the past there have been some really good smack  talkers that roamed this forum so until  you prove something........
One other question. (3) Championships for Lakeland? What years might they be?
  Co-champs don`t count. Either you win it out right or you don`t.  
 
 
Maddog:  If you would have stayed in school  you wouldn`t have to work 15 hours a day. 
;D     
         
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 01:59:03 PM
Pyle, actually I have a Master in Business and working as an Executive for Ford Motor Company, your day never really ends it just keeps going and going, but I do love my 130k pay a year. and gee wizz your ed level is???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 03:04:01 PM
  Maddog: Just so you know, your "All Maddog"
 selections are always well thought out and carefully chosen.  I know it`s a bit early  but
  i wanted to get that in before  you go into your "Mel Allen" impersonation and i know it`s
  coming.  
We`ve been at this for a while now and i`ve had your back on a few occasions  so you know where your concerned it`s always.......good natured, give and take.  Just wanted to say that as last year
 i "missed" one of yours.
 In case you just woke up.......yes, Augie did beat
  Lakeland!
  By the way:
 Touting your "new" boy  (W-40) is fine but in doing so you show (IMO) a  lack of respect for X-Mac`s #10 a "PROVEN" gamer in this conference for (4) years. Even better, he graduated. Yes you
  did toss him (#10) a bone saying he could play(
  in so many words.)
 As he was "Conference Receiver of the
 year",amongst many other awards,  i would think that if your W-40 exceeds the above then he to will have "earned" the respect of his peers.  
 For you to summarily dismiss his(#10) accomplishments  in favor of a "future" all star who up to this point has shown nothing is.... puzzling.
 Sometimes the line is crossed if you know what i mean.  Your retort is welcome.

     
 
   
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 01:59:03 PM
Pyle, actually I have a Master in Business and working as an Executive for Ford Motor Company, your day never really ends it just keeps going and going, but I do love my 130k pay a year. and gee wizz your ed level is???

  And you point is???????
   I guess if you toot your own horn it sounds pretty good...........
     U of Maryland.  GI bill  Night school. :o
     You were in what service???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 03:27:28 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 01:59:03 PM
Pyle, actually I have a Master in Business and working as an Executive for Ford Motor Company, your day never really ends it just keeps going and going, but I do love my 130k pay a year. and gee wizz your ed level is???
[/quot

   Like i saw earlier, if you did it correct the FIRST time your day wouldn`t seem like it goes on and on.
   You know what helps the long day syndrome?
   Quit watching the clock and actually do something
    Mr Ford Ex. Opps,  Mr Allen. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 25, 2006, 08:21:57 PM
Lets cut the Bullsh*t..... WAgner your a lil freshman with a big mouth.....how much bullsh*t will keep coming out your mouth? first yuo say you will stop posting than you keep on posting!! Cant you see NO ONE RESPECTS YOUR OPINION!!!! NO ONE!!! if it is to me and other people your opinion on who win games and who is going to be good is IRRELIVANT!!!!! Get out of your teens before you say sh*t and also dont say sh*t bc you arent even in the top 5 at your position!!  Stats say your not good as you present yourself to be and also your peers seem to think too!! is that what Lakeland fills your heads that you younger classman are the best and that your sh*t dont stink!! if that is the case why aRent you D1 than or in the least case D2...... You aint..you arent the best in d3, let alone your conference or your postion soo really  who are you to say anything??? my boy is ten times better than you and trust me he has been reading that and if you want to meet a crazy MUTHAF*CKER than meet him i garrantee you want to see a pain train will he will leave you six feet under DUDE!! you are soo lucky i am not playing but my other boy will put you in your place on #22!! You aint nothin... LAKELAND aint nothing without there star QB....Excuses about replace him is nothing but BULLSH*T.....They are scared i know it... as for the mac and lakeland game last year WHAT I HEARD is that lakeland had there tail between there legs for the most part untill macs QB came out of the game!! and still had it close till a late 4th quarter TD!!! i know it maybe a excuse but I WILL GARRAUNTEE A WIN OVER LAKELAND THIS YEAR WHEN MAC MEETS LAKELAND!!! i dont care what little kids say anymore this keds word aint SH*T nor what he does on the field aint nothin neither MY ALL CONFERENCE LINEBACKERS #9 Mac.....GReenville LB.....CUW LB......AND #6 from MAC..other than that this wagner kid waits his turn like a little kid that he is.....MADDOG you may be pro lakeland but enough is enough...i respect your word and your opinion but YOUR BOY has been talking way to much SHI*T and personally i dont think him nor his team can back it up, when this season is over i will garrantee ignorant lakeland posters will be EMBARRASSED to post bc there time has come and gone....time to be in the middle sorry but the truth hurts!!! GO MAC....stop #15...........#22..........#12.............#9............#6 All key players at key players at key positions.....what does lakeland have...nothing but LITTLE underclassmans with be mouths!!!!!!! like i said and i dont care what maddog sez!!!!!DONT WRITE CHECKS THAT YOUR ASS CANT CASH!!!!! i said my peace and thats it!!!! I proved myself what have you done!!!!!!!! NOTHING SO SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 26, 2006, 03:42:24 AM
Reeno10, you were one of the best receivers in the league no question. When all said and done Wagner will be one of the best LB's, your boy is at the top for the start of the season, I'll give him that. Wwith Greenvilles stud second and I still have Wagner 3rd. Enough said, I do think Mac and Lakeland will be a great game. Hell I might even drive down for that game as well as the CUW game. I just remember hat being a long azz drive 2 yrs ago. How's your dad doing?

Pyle, I love my job that's why I work so much. It's my football field if you will.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 26, 2006, 01:40:52 PM
You really think he will be #3 next year.  What about Eddie Hill from BU who was also a feshman this year and had more total tackles or Scotty Gregory from Mac who was a soph. this year and had more tackels or Scott Gerhke from CW who will be a Sr. next year and also had more tackles then Wanger.  Dont get me wrong I think that Wanger will turn out to be a great football player for LC but to make that large of jump in one off season when there were a lot of good young linebackers last year is kind crazy.  I am not saying it cant be done but the odds are def. stacked against him because everyone is working hard this summer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 26, 2006, 02:33:53 PM
footballisfun, Hell I forgot the gentleman from CUW he was good last yr but I got to tell you this Wagner is a college kid in a mans body and mine set. I'm telling you, unless I was totally convinced of my comments I would not say it. He will be on top. Remember with a guy like Ryan Van Doo Loo as your top guy last yr he was going to get his share. Honestly all the guys you mentioned are worthy of the top spot. This will be a Defensive yr in the IBFC, the O side of the ball will be tough to move for all teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on May 27, 2006, 09:57:00 PM
Reeno, Apparently you are from Mac and if there is anything I learned in my 4 years at BU playing football, its that Mac players talk a lot at the beginning of the year, become humbled, especially after getting demolished by BU this past season, then around this time, the trash talking begins again and we have to listen to it for a few more months before you guys are humbled once again.

DO NOT interpret this as me saying BU is going to win conference cause I am  not saying that, but they will continue to improve for certain.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on May 29, 2006, 09:53:13 PM
He's Right!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 30, 2006, 05:08:17 PM
I have played with some of the best linebackers this conference has ever seen and I think Gerhke from CUW is another.  He has incredible instincts and knowledge of the game.  The kids from mac did well against other teams in the confernce but against CUW (the best rushing team)  they got run over.  LC stopped CUW in the second half, mainly due to predictability and some of the players on O "giving up" as I heard.  I agree with Reeno10 (what part of FLA are you from?)  Untill you prove it don't talk, and even if you were to prove it show some class.  Maybe you will be a good player in this conference, but untill then you have no right to talk.  There have been far better players in the IBFC who say far less.  I am going with Gerhke..CUW (prove me right Scott) Then Greenville then Mac from just from what I have seen.   

And Maddog you have good insight into a lot of things but  ??? ???Whitewater ??? ???  come on.  They put up 70 plus, LC can't hang with them 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 30, 2006, 05:10:47 PM
And Maddog go up to Auburn Hills and tell the Pistons to move the ball stop taking stupid contested shots and pull their heads out of their rectums.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on May 30, 2006, 08:38:44 PM
He's Right Maddog
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 30, 2006, 11:46:48 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on May 30, 2006, 05:08:17 PM
I have played with some of the best linebackers this conference has ever seen and I think Gerhke from CUW is another.  He has incredible instincts and knowledge of the game.  The kids from mac did well against other teams in the confernce but against CUW (the best rushing team)  they got run over.  LC stopped CUW in the second half, mainly due to predictability and some of the players on O "giving up" as I heard.  I agree with Reeno10 (what part of FLA are you from?)  Untill you prove it don't talk, and even if you were to prove it show some class.  Maybe you will be a good player in this conference, but untill then you have no right to talk.  There have been far better players in the IBFC who say far less.  I am going with Gerhke..CUW (prove me right Scott) Then Greenville then Mac from just from what I have seen.   

And Maddog you have good insight into a lot of things but  ??? ???Whitewater ??? ???  come on.  They put up 70 plus, LC can't hang with them 


You have The kid from third (correct me if I am wrong about this).  Last year he had 16.5 more tackles then the closest guy to him and average almost 10 tackles a game.  The kid from CUW only had 6.2 tackles a game. Plus (on the stat sheet) the kid from mac and the kid from GC still had one more game to play (they didnt update for the last week of the regular season).  I know that anything can happen at any time in this confrence but lets give credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 31, 2006, 11:13:42 PM
Once again....one of the representives from than the power house teams need to let there air out there heads from being to big over the years....MY BOY #9 from LAKE MARY FLA, and mac and the kid from GC WILL BE THE BE IN COMPETITIONG FOR LINEBACKER OF THE YEAR NEXT YEAR PERIOD!!!! Good stats footballisfun, maybe we do need to give credit where credit is due!! OOOO AH LAKE MARRRRRRRRRRY!!!! FLA TALENT BOY WHATCHA KNOW BOUT THAT DUDE!!! HAHA !!!!! WAGNER NOW GERHKE why cant people except that the bast players arent on lakeland or CUW or aurora.....maybe they are on other teams!! STATS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES!! LOOK AT THE NATIONAL STATS FROM LAST YEAR and the year before you will see LAKE MARY boys in the upper half!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ibfcisdead on June 02, 2006, 01:55:59 PM
I believe CURF has the two best RBs in the conf.  personally...sorry
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on June 02, 2006, 05:35:08 PM
I'm from Ocala Fl  what highgschool did you go to Reeno
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on June 02, 2006, 05:50:15 PM
I understand you were a good player reeno...your stats were up there but your wins were way down...you won two chamionships before you were the major impact...and your boy won no championships...so put the stats with the wins then it will be worth it....gerke plays his position properly and rarely makes a mistake....he plays to a system and the coaches in the conference realize how great he is at it...and my OPINION from what I have seen...#9 is good but not the top...But, he does have passion and that allows him to play a lot better than he is athletically...the same with the guy from greenville
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on June 02, 2006, 06:44:41 PM
But when they pick the all conf. teams they dont look at that stuff.  They look at stats.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on June 03, 2006, 12:50:39 PM
Quote from: footballisfun on June 02, 2006, 06:44:41 PM
But when they pick the all conf. teams they dont look at that stuff. They look at stats.

My apologies for jumping into the middle of your discussion here; however, that is not always true.  Selection of the all-conference teams unfortunately does take those things into account, when at times, it should not.  I could cite you many examples from various conferences where the stat leaders in the conference who are starters and big contributors were overlooked and not selected for the all-conference teams.  In some instances, they were passed over by players selected who did not have any relevant "league" stats in their respective position categories.  That is sad, yet politics finds its way into these situations at times as we all know- just a fact of life. 

Many of us have discussed this type situation on several occasions on other boards in the past.  Anyway, just wanted to contribute comment to your discussion.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on June 03, 2006, 10:22:42 PM
I completely understand what you mean.  I felt I was overlooked when I was the up there in a lot of stats I (and Mike Litrenta My Boy who did get the recognition he deserved) ran the best defense in the conference.  I don't know why this happened but it does.  Oh well right.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on June 04, 2006, 06:00:09 PM
I think there are a lot of people that give over looked when it comes to picking the conf. list but that is they way it goes I guess.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on June 05, 2006, 12:39:05 PM
What is the word on Benedictine this year?  Have they improved themselves from last year?  We (Elmhurst) open up the season against them at home, and just want to get some info. about them. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on June 05, 2006, 01:15:46 PM
It all depends on who you ask around here and if their start WR/RB (Sergo) is coming back for a 7th year (joking).  I have heard that he is and isnt coming back.  They are better then they have been.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on June 05, 2006, 02:41:32 PM
With Benedictine there is only 1 direction that they can go... forward.  I look for a better squad this year than previous years.  I love their Stadium.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on June 05, 2006, 06:15:49 PM
They do have a very nice staduim.  With a place like that how can you not attrached kids to play.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Falcon77 on June 06, 2006, 01:32:39 PM
I'm new to this board. What is the outlook for CUW for 2006? Are they a top 3 IBC team?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on June 07, 2006, 12:16:19 PM
"With a place like that how can you not attract kids to play?"
A lot of it has to do with North Central, Wheaton, Elmhurst, and North Park, in close vicinity.  A lot of it also has to do with Benedictine having troubles (record wise) lately, while North Central/Carthage/Elmhurst have been steadily improving.
The Stadium is a start.  Now I think they need a proven Coach to help build up the program.  Krohn and Journell are doing a good job at Elmhurst.  Thorne is picking up at North Central right where he left off at the high school level, and Rucks has a CCIW ring to show for his efforts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on June 12, 2006, 02:12:00 PM
Just wanted to say congrats. to the guy from BU on the Arean Team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on June 12, 2006, 05:45:23 PM
If a guy got overlooked for an all conference team it is probably because he's not as good as you think they are.

Coaches don't vote for their own players. So if other coaches don't vote for a player, that player isn't as respected as you think. Bottom line. A few guys are overlooked (maybe 1 in 50). But not many. What some people think is being overlooked, other people are thinking... he isn't that good or he isn't as good as the some other player.

Look at the #3 & #4 tackler (both from Eureka) in the conference playing for the worst defense in the conference. Just because they have the stats don't mean they are all conference worthy. On the flip side if you are a WR and don't have hardly any stats you aren't going to be voted.No matter how fast you are or how good of a blocker or how great your offense is. There must be a healthy balance.

But bottom line...if other team's coaches don't vote for you then they didn't think to highly of you in comparision to some other player. Stats or no stats you must earn the respect of the opposing teams coaches. Not the bias view of mommy and daddy or your teammate.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on June 12, 2006, 09:04:21 PM
Does anyone on the Badger conference website do spell check?? Try it out sometime. Just a sugesttin,hahaha.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on June 13, 2006, 11:31:37 AM
As far as gaining reccogintion as a All-Conference player, it is how it has always been.  To the victor go the spoils.  The team that wins the title should have the most players on the All-Conf team.  The situation with the EC LB's, just goes to show that putting up rediculous numbers on a poor team doesn't count for much.  Maybe those guys had a lot of tackles because no one else on the team could tackle (just a possiblity).  If you want to be an All-Conf player and you are on a bad team, your numbers better be good enough to be nationaly ranked.

Sorry I don't have time to spell check!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on June 13, 2006, 12:38:21 PM
But those two kids from Eurka did make the Conf. list.  The DB made HM and the LB made 2nd team.  Not great for what they did but they still made it.  It depends on both the team you play on and you numbers but I personally think that it is more on the # then by the team you play on.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on June 13, 2006, 02:16:55 PM
I agree with one of the posters when they say that all-conference is voted by OTHER COACHES beside their own......which comes to one and only thing when making all conference.......RESPECT!!!! its not about numbers or teams for the most part its about the RESPECT that, that player earns from opposing coaches.....VOTES do count but besides that point season starts in 2 months lets talk about next season.... i havent been in the confernce in a while so who in others eyes are the top two in QB....WR...RB...LB....and DB this year...is there any attention getters this year???

P.S-- WHO CARES ABOUT LAST YEAR...next year is just around the corner....lets get in the 2006-2007 now
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on June 14, 2006, 04:09:26 AM
Big "A" still the top receiver, even though your retired should think of ARENA football. My picks at your positions, QB-- Hornang--AU, and Wilk--Lakeland, Now every will say are you crazy not Schmitke, nope I fell he took a dive last year against Lakeland and I have lost respect for him until he redeems himself, WR--Martin--Mac, and White--Lakeland, RB--Ereg--Mac, Gilleppssee (no spell check here, you know who I am talking about)--CUW, LB--Greenville and Mac's LB to start again look for WAGNER-Lakeland by end of season to be in top, DB's--Schopp--Greenville and Tyrece from Lakeland, DL--Langston (conference player of the year) and Allen both from CUW, OL--Homer--Lakeland and Phal from Lakeland (again no spell check), easy fella's my opinions. Over last (4) years, WR--Big "A" from Mac and Taff from Lakeland, RB--Mills-CUW and Ereg--Mac, QB--Maiuri and Lubke from Lakeland, OL- VanDalen and Homer Lakeland, DL, Langston--CUW and Benton--Lakeland, LB--Schringer and Van Doo Loo from Lakeland, DB"s Perry and Davison from AU
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on June 14, 2006, 11:10:33 AM
WR- Martin-mac... White Lakeland. talented wr but suspect hands. Should be as good as anyone but over rated.

QB- Hornung AU -easily. No one else worth mentioning.
Wilks LC-no experience-not many starters returning around him. If he is an all-conference type qb then he should have had a better showing in the playoffs last year.

RB-  Gillespie front runner. Best talent around him, if he plays fb in that system he will have best chance for top numbers. ereg- mac

DBs- Hutchins CUW, Schopp GC, Tyrece- LC

DL-  Langston and Allen CUW, Reece GC

LB- Harriel GC, Pirollo- Mac,

OL- Mask  CUW, Poe T JR GC

TE-?

in terms of the last 4 years- top 3 backs i've seen in this conference has been Slotback from CUW 02 was his last year. He was the Reggie Bush of this conference. I don't remember his name. But he was the RB of the year. Then Mills from CUW, then Harriel from GC. Ereg is not in the same class as those guys. QB- Maiuri LC then Hornug AU.

By the way... if LC has had the best QBs, OL, DL, LBs in the last 4 years then they need a new coach. Because if those guys were as talented as you say then they should have won more than 1 outright title and 1 tie. THey also should be CUW more.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on June 14, 2006, 11:35:14 AM
Genius, in the last 3 years Lakeland 's QB have been IBFC back of year and IBFC player of the year, LB's last 3 years have been tops at that position, DL ranks neck and neck with CUW and as a Coach the best in the conference the 3 years Coach "Z" has been there. In last 4 years they have won just as many titles as CUW. Again if you look at the people I put on my list there are alot of CUW and Lakeland players which have dominated the conference. Wilk like Ryan had to wait his turn as for his showing in the playoffs, well nothing like being thrown to the wolves. He still did a decent job against a top 20 team. Couldn't expect more when you play sparingly all year behind the best in the league. He will be up there at the top trust me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on June 18, 2006, 01:32:30 PM
Ok so we have talked about what potions are going to be strong but where are teams going to be weak this year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on June 20, 2006, 11:25:40 AM
Genius:  You were talking about a player from CUW,
  2002 season, who you called, " the Reggie Bush of this (IBFC) conference." but couldn`t remember his name.
   Try this one..........Cedric Simmons. 
   That season Mac was undefeated and CUW only had (1) loss in conference play.
   The game was at CUW`s field and Mac won it
    14-9 and yes, The big "A" caught a TD pass.
   One of the best games ever played in the IBFC,
    IMO.
    Maddog, in case your wondering......LC was 4-3
    in conference play for 2002.  Does the term ......
    non-contender come to mind? ;D ;D ;D
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on June 20, 2006, 04:44:25 PM
 To all concerned: Check the D-3 web-site.
   The SLIAC has re-instated football! also included
   are the new members.
   Doesn`t look to be a monster conference but
     Time will tell.
   I know everybody has some comments on this
    new developement so lets hear them.
    Maddog (aka...Mel Allen)  what do you think?
    Looks like LC is staying....where ever that is.
     The "new" SLIAC may be a more competitive
     one in that there doesn`t look to be any
     real powerhouse schools involved.  OK, maybe
     Mac. 
      If it`s like the "old" SLIAC (check out their web-
     site)  Mac might well end up being the "big-dog"
    in what looks to be a lesser conference then the
     current IBFC.... IMO. 
     
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on June 21, 2006, 01:07:59 AM
as a Greenville fan, sounds like a great move, it will be nice to be able to stay in the same conference for all sports.  I remeber the last seaon of competion with the SLIAC there were co-champs with MacMurray, Greenville, and I believe Westminster all being co-champs.  I am curious why Principia is the other school chosen for the north division, why not one that is further north, like a Eureka or Mac?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 21, 2006, 01:34:43 AM
Maybe for competitive balance? Not sure.

In this group, I expect Northwestern to compete for the title from the North, with Martin Luther and Morris trying to catch them.

The SLIAC group probably will be considered behind the NAthCon in 2008.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on June 21, 2006, 10:58:44 AM
 NorthWestern(Minn) looks to be the "class" of these schools  with an 8-3 record last year(2005)
  As all schools noted above played as Independents i`m sure they will welcome the chance to play in a  conference where the conference champ get an automatic bid to the NCAA
  play-offs, eventually if not sooner.
  Crown was 3-5, Martin-Luther was 5-3, Minnesota-Morris was 4-6. These are won/loss records from 2005.
This is the type of conference where "all" can be considered contenders with Greenville a real sleeper. IMO.
 












 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on June 21, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
Just woke up from a long winters nap. How's your son doing Maddog? To the business at hand. Gomer nailed it - the sleeper or sweeper can be Greenville if they continue to move/play in the direction they went/did last season. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on June 22, 2006, 02:06:26 AM
AUFB05, Ryan is doing great in Europe,  You can see some good shots on the web,  www.american-football.org, Go to Hamburg Blue Devils site. it's in German so click on second from last site and all the games will come up click on any game and you can see the pic's from that game, all Americans will have a A on there helmets and jersey's, he is #6, Although he misses playing QB he is adjusting to Defense real well. Has 5 INT's in 8 games, 1 returned for a TD, also has 2 Punts returned for TD's. They have him playing OLB, being he's put on 20 pounds. He is starting every game so far, and has seen much of the world in addition. He has a tryout with the Ottawa Renegades in the CFL late Sept/early Oct. when he get back from Germany NOW how is that FB for AU doing? ready for the upcoming season I hope. I will be at that game in Aurora so we can talk more then good luck this season and pass that on to your son.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on June 22, 2006, 09:47:33 AM
maddog-

Glad to hear he is doing great. Have you been able to see him play? My guy is in good shape looking forward to an interesting season (his last). I Haven't seen the new AU roster so I can't tell you much about this years team. After 2 a days I'll have a better handle on what to expect. How did you make out with your job? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on June 23, 2006, 12:41:26 AM
If CUW would have kicked field goals when we had the chance we would have won that Mac game in 02.  That was one of, if not the most intense games I have ever played in. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on July 03, 2006, 05:00:59 PM
Well, things are getting awefully slow on the boards....so...

Wonder if anyone can find and post active career leaders in things like:

Scoring, rushing, reciever, tackles, sacks, td pass, conference awards and such...would be interesting to see..if anyone can just get this info would be nice...but maybe maddog or some others could collectively find this info...I can get CUW's info if needed
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 04, 2006, 05:13:54 PM
The Impact is bak..........Speaking of records.......Sotha get us started
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on July 05, 2006, 10:43:24 PM
I wasn't able to find as much as I thought I could on CUW...I was able to find scoring and all conference awards....CUWs leading scores career.... Collier with 30, Gillespie with 15, Steinmetz with 12...I know Bobby langston has a ton of sacks and tackles for loss...Rick Hutchins has 8 picks...All conference...John Mask OL 2 time 1st team 1 time 2nd team...Stein 2 time 1st team....Collier 3 time first team...Langston 2 time first team...  I wish I could find more stats but NCAA stats dont seem very accurate and seem very limited
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on July 06, 2006, 11:24:41 AM
I think we should be talking about the season bc it is less than a month and a half away............so can people give me some valuable predictions for this up coming season as far as rankings and placements!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on July 08, 2006, 05:13:34 PM
Reeno10 ya your right 1 and ahalf months away. Maddogs Pridictions are Lakeland and CUW fight for top honors,while Mac and Greenville fight for 3rd. Langston top player in Conference, Ereg top rusher, Mac's LB "P" top LB, Langston top DL, Homer-Lakeland top OL, White-Lakeland and Collier-CUW fight for top receiver, Tyrce Warner-Lakeland top DB. as for QB Hornang-AU top QB followed by Wilk-Lakeland sorry Gomer, Mel Allen has spoken! Here we goooooo.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on July 09, 2006, 12:26:14 AM
Im not sure if it is official yet, but by the new school year it will be.  CURF has now been renamed...Concordia University Chicago.  That will be its official name rather then Concordia University River Forest.  Anyone think that could help a little more for recruiting?  Let me know what you guys think.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on July 09, 2006, 02:01:01 AM
I think Terry Martin will be in competition for receiver of the year for the fact that he was all region honerable mention and are any of the reciever your talking about been that?.....he was only a freshman......look at the players coming back, All Confernce QB...2 RBs....All Region WR...1 OL....1 DL....and 3 LBS, and Mac is building...To what i know lakeland was beat last year untill macs Qb came out and thats alright bc its football but if they were beat last year can you imagine what this year will be like!!!!why lakeland and CUW??? I know CUW might be up there but what SOLID evidence makes you think Lakland??? your boy was pretty good, but now he is gone, you really think his back up is legit to be hyping the team up?? Mac has all returners from the last four years coming back..ereg (with a good back up)...schmitdke.....all region recever and a revamp oline...not to mention alittle bit on D.... what i want to know is why isnt no one giving mac a look at competing for this ring???? I think the time has come where Lakeland wont be there this year....my Predictions for the top there(not in order) Mac, CUW, Greenville, Lakeland....competing for the top 3...no one has edge over anyone besides maybe CUW bc there rushing attack...but 8 to 9 guys in the box how can they be so effective than especially with an athletic defense(none in particular just in genreal)! Lakeland will compete but WONT be one of the  top 2 teams for the first time in 3 years!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on July 09, 2006, 03:54:53 AM
I like CUW's chances....their running game is always great..and the defense should be as good this year as it has ever been...they return a lot of great guys on the d-line that have busted the arses this year...the only question is CUW's passing game...they have the best reciever and close to if not the best reciever core in the conference...but it means nothing when they are in those tight sets and leave collier, stienmetz or siolka alone on the outside...when its 3rd and long that reciever is able to get doubled or tripled and tahts the only time they really throw...i like cuw's chances bc of the all around talent but throwing in a spread set here of there could help...but the defense this year should make it easy for cuw to score...i see a lot of short porches for the offense set up by the defense...and a lot of take aways...plus with stienmetz returning the punts expect a shorter field for CUW...could we finally see a more balanced offensive attack from CUW this year????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 09, 2006, 11:15:50 AM
  Maddog................................
      :D :D :D :D :D :D.......Mel Allen.
  
  Your predictions  as usual are well thought out
  and un-biased ( for a change) so at this point in time i`ll just say, we`ll see.
   I`ll say this though, the team/teams with the best "O" lines will be the ones in contention at the
  end. Everybody is talking about this guy or that guy but in truth with out a dominant "O" line you go no where!  Come to think of it that`s a no-brainer! 
  It`s a little early for me to get started but i`ll be
   ready in August. 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ibfcisdead on July 11, 2006, 12:28:08 PM
Cougs will be in top 3 this year no doubt
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: star826 on July 11, 2006, 02:07:58 PM
 After reading everyones posts on the predictions........I kind of question where people are getting there info from.  I dont know why anyone would pick any other team to be the front runner in conf. besides LC or CUW.  over the last three seasons LC & CUW both have a conf. record of 19-2.  There is no doubt that they will be in the race in 2006.  Mac fans I love the pride you have for your school but just look at the facts the last three seasons mac has been out scored by LC 149-41 and CUW outscored them 122-62.  Now im not saying that they cant make a turn around but for god sakes lets try to be about it not just talk about it.....it seems every year some MAC fan coming on here saying that the old mighty Mac is back....well when we see it we will believe it.  LC has lost some key players but what school doesnt loss key players.  they will bounce back and remain the fronter runner that they are.  They will be ready for every team in this conf.....since they have the hardest non-conf. schedule in the country, which will be great preperation for conf. play.  Finally looking forward to see if CUW can coming into LC and steal a win as LC did last year at the home.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 11, 2006, 08:17:15 PM
I think the IBFC will be a toss between Lakeland and CUW and I think CUW is my gut pick.
Will the Cougars be better with the new name? and "Cougs will be in the Top3 this year". 
I don't think the naming is going to make a difference, but the  Coach will.  Lonnie Prues is an Alum and when I talked to him, he has some foundation and coaches with him that can bring experience.  I liked Bob Conwell, but it just didn't appear that he was able to coach "with the times".
I think Concordia Chicago  will be much improved, but not in the top 3 this year.  I think 500 or maybe 1-2 games below.  Plus, with a new Coach (anywhere), you can't expect a 1 season complete turnaround.  Instant success is very rare.  Give Coach Prues a few years to get his recruits in and then we will see Conc.  start producing numbers.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 11, 2006, 10:46:53 PM
Here's what I don't get.......Lakeland took conference last year....granted......But the year before..after the tiebreaker was Aurora...I don't understand how Aurora falls outta the top 3....and Mac or even Concordia of Chicago...is rated above them......No way they are still definitely in the top 3 if not a Contender
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 12, 2006, 02:33:22 AM
Aurora's "year before" was under a different coaching staff. That's probably got something to do with why they aren't getting much of a honeymoon effect in the prognostications.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 12, 2006, 06:35:46 PM
But still last year Aurora was third overall in the conference yet curf....who has been in the bottom three (no offense....every year is a new year) is getting a better or higher "rate).....I believe that much like the past few years that Aurora, CUW, and Lakeland will be fighting it out for the conference crown
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on July 13, 2006, 12:58:32 PM
But Aroura has lost everyone except their QB.  They lost their 3 stud DBs 2 linebackers and their 2 leading recievers.  I mean last year they beat Mac by one touchdown and Mac lost that game Aroura didnt win.  I dont know some people may disagree with me but a team that wasnt that only barely above average last year loses most of their good players and is still expected to preform the same.  That does make much sence to me.  Now I understand that every year is a new year and I wish aroura the best of luck in their season but I just dont see it happening.  However, I also dont see CURF being in the top three either.  I think it will be Lakeland CUW and Mac battleing for the top three spots.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on July 13, 2006, 03:58:19 PM
With all of this talk of which college this year is going to win, the road goes through two teams to win the title. Lakeland and Concordia Wisconsin, the only way a team not one of these two will win is if they beat both of these teams, as for the rest of the conference, well they really need to pick it up. These two teams have been the most consistant teams in this conference, MacMurray had its run and the only way to get back to that form is to PLAY AS A TEAM!!!!! Greenville, who knows maybe they are a legitamate team now, Auroua they are in a rebuilding process and arent that bad, Benedictine they will be good this year, improved from last year. As for the rest of the conference they just need to stick it out and play for the love and joy to play, that is why all athletes are at a d3 level. If you were any better than you would be somewhere else.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 13, 2006, 10:23:34 PM
Every team lost key players....Can lakelands offense expect the new QB to hold a candle to Mauri.........Has CUW maintainde their superiority......we dont know I believe that all teams may be "rebuilding"  I believe Aurora won the mac game....mac has improved and the battled everyone including conf champs Lakeland..........Aurora won that game.......Don't get me wrong teams will battle this year but I go with what Ive seen in the past and it will prolly be the top 3 from the last few years...which includes Aurora, Lakeland, and CUW.......Mac and Greenville close behind...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: whodaman on July 13, 2006, 11:04:20 PM
Ex-MacMurray star charged with sexual misconduct

Tribune news services
Published July 13, 2006


A former All-America running back at MacMurray College has been charged with sexual misconduct and child pornography after police say he had sex with a young girl and filmed it.

Steven Ballinger, 26, of Fairview Heights, was charged Monday with predatory criminal sexual assault with a child and child pornography, as well as with drug possession related to the less than 15 grams of cocaine police say they found in his home.

Ballinger remained jailed Wednesday in Belleville on $350,000 bond, four days after his arrest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2006, 11:12:09 PM
For the record: Not a D3football.com All-American.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on July 14, 2006, 01:36:22 PM
yet again we have s person that wants to rip down mac....well my opinon is that he played almost what 5 to 6 years ago....so what how the hell is that relevant to what is going on right now in this conference??? was that post, that really has no meaning to what is happening in the conference this year??  I think that was to try to rip mac down  a little bit bc personally how is the relevant to what mac is trying to do this year?? If you want to talk about something lets talk about a All-American Linebacker that went to mac this Past Arena Football Season made the ALL ARENA TEAM for the 2nd straight year...i think his name is FRANK CARTER!!! lets talks bout that if you want to bring up relevant news...but the deperate call of trying to rip  mac down to what they are trying to do this season and giving people the wrong image of mac players is wrong!! Please dont disrespect these players who read this web site by posting somethign about someone that these players probably never met!!! So with that in mind lets try to stay on topic...Thanks!!! Other than the Ignorance that someone may have towards Mac...i would liek to say that in the past there has been one or two teams that had better chances than other teams to get that ring but  this year its going to be a toss up, These teams i think will be competeing legitamitly this year....CUW, Lakeland, Mac, Greenville....but team that could be sleeper BU!! so i am done trying to argue who is better but i do know that the teams i mentioned will be competeing for one of the last IBFC Confernce Championships........
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 14, 2006, 03:44:14 PM
Woah....Thats some post......Ive already spoke my peace twice on this page I think that Aurora will contend for the Championship....the've been within a game or so every year as far back as I can remember....whether it be against mac or cuw or lakeland.....you cant forget about the past and disagree that aurora wont be in the top three......It is gonna happen
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on July 14, 2006, 07:08:24 PM
The true is that Steve was messed up before he even came to Mac and he stayed messed up after he left.  So he played at Mac but he could have played anywhere.  When he was at Mac he was a pretty good ball player and while playing football good for building character it doesnt mean that if you play you have good character.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 14, 2006, 07:09:56 PM
Interesting tidbits on this board... whew! Some of which I don't think pertains to the spirit of d-3 but oh well.
In the case of the Macmurray player. I am sad to hear that happened, but we are all humans and stuff happens.  For his sake, I hope he is able to get the help he needs to get back on track.
FatalImpact,  you speak highly about Aurora but don't really put down the facts to support your argument.  The CUW team I saw last year had a great defense and a pretty good offense, which is grounds for me to think they will be strong again this year.  I didn't get a chance to see Lakeland, however they must have been strong to play as well as they did in the playoffs.  In the cases of Benedictine and Concordia ILL,  there is only 1 direction those schools can go.  With new coaching staffs I think both programs will improve steadily.
I see this as a two team race (Lakeland/CUW) but what do I know.  IN our conference, I thought Wheaton would win it, and Augie swept the slate clean.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 15, 2006, 02:21:35 PM
79jaybird, Last year Aurora lost to CUW by five which leads me to believe that as strong as their defense was that holes could be punched in it....Now do not get me wrong they were strong last year....but as Istated before everyone lost a key player or to........but I am not sure who CUW lost but we'll hafta see......Now I believe that the three contenders from the last 3 years or so will contend this year and it will definietly be a battle.....But I have no heard many statements to change my mind
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 15, 2006, 04:14:46 PM
FatalImpact-- I understand your points and yes, every team loses players due to graduation, end of eligibility, transfers, etc. 
Lakeland played Augie very tough last year and the Lakeland/CUW game was a good battle also.
This is what makes each week fun and entertaining during fb season.  There is no clear cut favorites and if you don't bring your "A" game each week, you could be in for some trouble.
I think we will get a good clue as to how strong MacMurray is when they host Augie.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 15, 2006, 11:39:35 PM
This is true I can not wait to see what this season is gonna look like.......Best of Luck to EC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on July 16, 2006, 03:46:07 AM
ya lakeland did real good against the 3RD STRING!!!!!!!!!!!! of augustana.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 16, 2006, 11:13:21 AM
That's not a knock on Lakeland,  half of the teams Augie plays are competing against their 2nd/3rd strings.  That is more of a compliment to the strength of their program, not a knock on their opponents. :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on July 16, 2006, 05:13:35 PM
how is that a compliment, lakeland last year was all cocky when ever they played those week teams, when they played whitewater they had alot of personel fouls because there attitude was terrible, its great to be the IBC champs because thats all there is to be, win this conference and you will go on and get beat by a way better team in the first round of the playoffs. That is what is going to happen for as long as this conference is still together.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 16, 2006, 08:00:32 PM
lovethegame........cut the drama....You make it sound impossible and instead of having confidence your ripping teams down......dude quit ripping the conference
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on July 16, 2006, 11:49:15 PM
im not ripping this conference, i have been reading the posts and it seems that this conference talks a big game and then when it comes to the big teams and games it trips, woulda coulda shoulda talk, and truth is only when someone wins that first game then this conference will hold some weight with the better conferences.

By the way reeno10 (sorry spelling) it was a pleasure to see a athlete such as yourself play, what a difference maker you were for the mac teams. sorry to hear that you college has had its name dragged threw the mudd again. Hope to hear your name in the arena or some sort of next level, your talent is one of a kind. Good luck to all teams in this conference, win that first playoff game and prove the nation wrong about the IBC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 18, 2006, 11:56:29 AM
lovethegame,  I was calling an Elmhurst Team just a few years ago that lost 62-0 and 58-0, did EC cry a river?  No,  they worked a little harder, practiced a little harder, built a better ATTITUDE,  and the last 2-3 years EC has been a score or two away from knocking off Augie.  All an IBC, CURF, etc. needs is a shot of adrenaline, character, and a mindset that we can right the ship.  I think the new coaches at IBC and CURF are a great start.  I don't think comparing the IBC to the CCIW is fair.  Have some pride for your conf., alma maters, etc.  I don't think slamming is going to help.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on July 18, 2006, 12:23:54 PM
The truth of the matter is the conf. isnt bad but when we get to the playoffs we have to play teams that are in the top half of the bracket and for us to win it would have to be a large upset.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on July 18, 2006, 01:38:54 PM
well see hear is the thing, no matter what the conference champ of the IBC does they will always have a low seed, and why is that? Let me answer that for you. Its because this conference has never won a playoff game, this conference has come close with aroura almost beating wooster and mac losing to thomas moore i think, other than that the conference champ has never come close to winning, and when it comes time to picking the slots for the playoffs, the officials that do make the games happen take a look and see that "wow the IBC hasnt won so lets stick them with a tough team so they can lose and then the better team will play the other better team" thats the way its going to be and thats the way this conference will finish when it gets disdand.

Then when the teams from the IBC go to thier new conferences they will be overwhelmed for a couple of years due to the fact of not getting easy teams to play and having to actually play in a tough conference. Now im not saying that the IBC isnt tough, im just saying that the other conferences in the nation have had their conference champs win a playoff game to give that conference some respect and help them get higher in the playoff seedings.

Elmhurst is a very good college by all means but until they find a way to beat augustana then they will never be champs, it doesnt matter how close a team comes to beating the other won. ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE "W"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 18, 2006, 01:44:13 PM
I'm not sure the IBFC teams will be headed to tougher conferences.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on July 18, 2006, 04:09:16 PM
Ok, but the conferences they are heading to are better than the IBC right?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on July 18, 2006, 04:36:11 PM
Quote from: lovethegame on July 18, 2006, 01:38:54 PM
well see hear is the thing, no matter what the conference champ of the IBC does they will always have a low seed, and why is that? Let me answer that for you. Its because this conference has never won a playoff game, this conference has come close with aroura almost beating wooster and mac losing to thomas moore i think, other than that the conference champ has never come close to winning, and when it comes time to picking the slots for the playoffs, the officials that do make the games happen take a look and see that "wow the IBC hasnt won so lets stick them with a tough team so they can lose and then the better team will play the other better team" thats the way its going to be and thats the way this conference will finish when it gets disdand.

Then when the teams from the IBC go to thier new conferences they will be overwhelmed for a couple of years due to the fact of not getting easy teams to play and having to actually play in a tough conference. Now im not saying that the IBC isnt tough, im just saying that the other conferences in the nation have had their conference champs win a playoff game to give that conference some respect and help them get higher in the playoff seedings.

Elmhurst is a very good college by all means but until they find a way to beat augustana then they will never be champs, it doesnt matter how close a team comes to beating the other won. ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE "W"

Anyone who reads all that and has any idea what you are trying to say is a lot smarter than I am.

The IBC is what it is, and it won't be that for too much longer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 18, 2006, 09:22:22 PM
Quote from: lovethegame on July 18, 2006, 04:09:16 PM
Ok, but the conferences they are heading to are better than the IBC right?

Not really. The SLIAC/UMAC is on par with or lower than the IBC and the NAthCon is probably the same.

These are mostly the same schools just reshuffling -- taking the IBC and the UMAC plus Wisconsin Lutheran, throwing them in a hat and pulling names back out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 18, 2006, 10:43:11 PM
In the playoffs it has been shown that it is possible to win......Though it has not happened as of yet....Now never say never....Some teams get a higher seed because they may have a higher record...Such as Wooster when they played AU, and AU was the lower seed...But AU stacks their non conference play as does lakeland and Probably CUW.....SO these teams go into a battle and sometimes they don't win.....but in the long run it makes the teams tougher and stronger...(ex. AU vs Alma and Lakeland vs UW Whitewater)......So in some instances a team may get a higher seed for their record but they may not be better....In the AU vs Wooster game.....the better team did not win.....Say what you will about who got the "W" but its all about Heart
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 19, 2006, 02:35:57 AM
"Elmhurst will never be champs until they find a way to beat Augustana"
1978  Elmhurst was co-champs with Millikin and lost to Augie
1980  Elmhurst was co-champs with IWU  and (I am pretty sure)  lost to Augie.
If you look at the non-Augie CCIW champs years, their 1 loss (if there is one)  is to Augie.
Every conference has a team that has the lion's share of the titles over the years. I don't see your point with that comment.
As far as conferences and strengths. 
I would put the WIAC/CCIW/OAC/and MUC's conference as the stronger confs. in this area.  Not knocking the IBC or UAA, both the schools in these conferences don't compare to the schools in the aforementioned confs.
Looking at the IBC/EC series,  there was a stretch where Benedictine had a huge advantage.  Today,  I think Ben  gets a better benefit playing EC, than EC gets playing Ben.  I like the matchup because Lisle/EC makes for a good neighborhood rivalry.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: matblake on July 19, 2006, 10:13:24 AM
Plus, Benedictine has a better stadium!  8)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on July 19, 2006, 11:37:25 AM
o ya benedictine's stadium is awesome, i was there for a game and they really have turned that campus into something with that new stadium, I hope that really makes the recruiting go well for them. Nothing but respect for benedictine.

As for elmhurst, last time i checked the teams in the IBC there was no elmhurst. And as for lakeland playing whitewater and mac playing wooster, how did those games make them stronger they both got blown away wasnt even a contest. Now for auroura playing wooster your right, that was a ver close game and auroura should have won, they were the better team and they did play with alot more heart, but Tony Sutton was the difference maker because thats all wooster had and he was very good. But i thought that auroura was going to win but they didnt and that really sucks to see.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 19, 2006, 12:20:09 PM
"Benedictine has a great Stadium"

I agree 100%,  and like their overall Athletic Complex.  I think that is why my Cousin chose to play Baseball there.  He will be a Freshman this Fall.
Athletic facilities play a great role in the choosing process of where a student/athlete is going to continue.  No doubt.
Example is IWU's Shirk Center.  If you are a Senior in HS  and have a choice between the Shirk Center or some great school with a sub-par Gym,  well you see my point.
I think there is only 1 direction Benedictine can go and that is to get better, which they will.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lakeshore on July 20, 2006, 03:03:48 PM
yes Benedictine's stadium is pretty decent by D3 standards but the major downfall is that they have to share it with everybody and there brother in Lisle, IL.  I believe theres 5 or 6 HS teams that also call that facility home. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on July 20, 2006, 05:07:32 PM
wow, that was a bummer. But I wonder if the highschools pay the college to use the stadium. Good luck to all players coaches and fans on the upcoming season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: matblake on July 21, 2006, 09:58:16 AM
lovethe,  I thought the stadium was a cooperative between the city and the university.  Don't know for sure, but usually the governmental body wins out as far as fees go.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 22, 2006, 02:12:52 PM
yu missed the point.....if you play tougher non-conf. schools it helps....And yes many of them got blown away.....I understand where you are coming from cause no-one wants to lose and no-one wants to be blown away.....But playing tougher teams helps by making the athlete play a little harder than they usually would....so then when they do get to the conferencre they have a better shot to win
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on July 22, 2006, 04:20:20 PM
No i see what your saying playing tougher teams is what the IBC teams need to do, but they should not take on teams that are way better then them. Start off with a team thats better but not national championship teams, eventually you would get to them, but taking on teams that will absolutley crush the morale of a team is not a good thing escpecially for a first game. But i agree with taking on a hard non-conference scheduale.

Good luck teams its almost here!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on July 23, 2006, 10:54:42 PM
something i heard...maybe just hear say...but there is a certain someone that plays at BU that has played at like 1 or 2 other schools and 3 years at BU and is playing illegally this next season....I'm not gonna name names unless someone else can say whether its true...most ppl probably know what I am talking about if its true...I thinks its really crap if someone is doing this ...I also thinks its crap if someone has started a rumor but I think it would be fair to our conference to know the truth
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on July 24, 2006, 01:23:03 AM
I have also heard this same something but I can not conferm or deny it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on July 24, 2006, 02:59:15 AM
I'm sure Coach Coop knows how many yrs Sergio has played and I doubt they would violate the NCAA rules for him.

Foir those interested, Ryan makes his first start at QB for the Hamburg Blue Devils against the NO#1 team in the German Professional Football League this Sat . in Germany. Game will be live on the internet. I will post the site tomorrow for those interested.  Took over job late in game last week due to an injury and 3 plays later had a 58 yrd TD run, 15 yrd rush and a 45 yrd TD pass. Not bad for only QBing 3 plays. They ended up winning 45-32. He is still second in the conference with 5 INT's in 9 games.

Good luck to all IBFC teams this season. MADDOG
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 24, 2006, 12:20:17 PM
With regard to IBC and scheduling.  A few years ago Elmhurst was struggling.  We had Ripon, Ohio Wesleyan, Alma, and some other schools that were playoff bound and/or playoff caliber teams.  At the time, this didn't help EC because they were not playing at that level.  So we would have 2-3 losses in non-conf. prior to the difficult reg. season.
To correct this, EC started scheduling CURF, Chicago, cont. Benedictine, Rockford College, etc.  teams that were at or just a little better than EC at the time.  This way they could develop a program and gradually "build up the team".
I think the IBFC needs to focus on finding teams at their level or just a little bit better than their school's teams.  I think playing a CCIW team is helpful.  I don't think playing a WIAC school does service to them.  Play an Iowa team like Simpson or Buena Vista, etc.  I think this could help the IBFC get started.  This is just IMO from an "outsiders" perspective.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 25, 2006, 07:11:29 AM
 Maddog: Good luck to your son!
  As for  Sergio, "seems" like he`s been around for ever. 
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on July 25, 2006, 12:22:12 PM
Thanks Gomer :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 28, 2006, 12:38:33 PM
Let's all return to the task at hand............The preseason is about to start.....Who else here is ready for some football???????????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on July 28, 2006, 01:43:51 PM
Here is a curiosity ? - I just learned from the Washington University Media Guide (in opponent information for the season) that Greenville has 42 letter winners and 17 starters returning this season.  Anybody know about the other IBC schools - how many letter winners returning? how many starters?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on July 28, 2006, 02:22:37 PM
I just wanted to give an congrats to my boy from LAKE MARY FLORIDA, Lake Mary Ram.....Larry #9 for mac in his pre season All American honors on don hansens web site...like i told him on the phone pre season isnt nothing unless you have a ring!! I GOT 2 DUDE...you havent got one yet......this is you year....but congrats to him and good luck to everyone else in the conference i amexpecting an exciting year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on July 28, 2006, 02:29:11 PM
Concordia returns 18 starters more imporantly 3 out of 4 D-Lineman and 4 or out 5 O-Lineman..With the other spots outside of Manny Mills that will be filled and won't have a drop off of any sort, BUT Aaron Gillipese could break out and have just as good a year as Manny.  Just a note Greenville was CUW toughest  challenge last year not to take anything away from Lakeland but they lost super studs  in Benton, Zeck, De Loo, and Mauri. You cant just put somebody else  in and expect them to produce like they did.. My predictions 1 CUW 2 Greenville 3 Lakeland 4 BU
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: star826 on July 28, 2006, 04:04:49 PM
Those are very impressive numbers for CUW......however just as someone stated lakeland cant just replace their studs, neither can CUW.  Mills was the engine of their running game for so many years, it will be very hard to replace him.  Lakeland has 12 returning starter and a host of player with very valuable playing time, and Im not talking the last 5 minutes in the blowout games.  If anyone remember the LC team that had QB Brent Luebke who was off. back of the year in 2003, WR Jeff Taff who was WR of the year in 2003, Sam Sharinger who was in All American and a gang of 1st ALL CONF. player who graduated the with them.  That team finished 2nd behind CUW, the following year Lakeland won a share of the title.  So I think that is proof that a team doesnt have to rebuild but instead reload with player that have been working very hard to fill those key postions.  The winner of this conf. will have to go undefeated in conf. or I think their there will be another tie. None of the top team will ahve two loses in conf.  The one thing that i think LC has in their favor is that they play CUW, and GC at home.............so I guess only time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on August 01, 2006, 11:49:11 PM
GetitBoi.......Im intrigued with how the season will turn out...though may I enquire how u got BU at number 4......don't get me wrong.....I think BU is improving no4 status not sure....but ya never know.......I'm just interested in this upcoming season
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 03, 2006, 12:04:44 PM
  Sept. 2nd Mac gets to see what it`s made out of.
   Augustana, who is picked to defend it`s CCIW
   crown comes to Mac . Will Mac have "home-field-advantage?" That means Mac will have more fans in the stands that`s all.
   Give Mac credit this is the best team they`ve  opened their season with in some time, maybe ever. 
   Make no mistake about this game as Augustana
   is no PATSY!  Read Mac has no chance, period.
   Mac`s "D" will be tested.........you hear me Larry?
   The "O" line which has been a nightmare the last few years for Mac (if they don`t get it together then the nightmare will continue) and "if" coach
  doesn`t have a new,improved,bunch of linemen ready to at least get the play started, like in stopping somebody on the "D" side of the ball, then Mac will at best be a mediocre team, IMO.
   Mac`s offense will have lots of new parts plus a senior QB (Maddog already lite him up) a WR who
  can play and a senior RB who may or may not be
   available. Formidable?  No.  Mediocre?  At best, IMO.
   
 
 
   

   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on August 03, 2006, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on July 23, 2006, 10:54:42 PM
something i heard...maybe just hear say...but there is a certain someone that plays at BU that has played at like 1 or 2 other schools and 3 years at BU and is playing illegally this next season....I'm not gonna name names unless someone else can say whether its true...most ppl probably know what I am talking about if its true...I thinks its really crap if someone is doing this ...I also thinks its crap if someone has started a rumor but I think it would be fair to our conference to know the truth

I know he's been around forever, but believe it or not he is eligible due to being redshirted at a previous schools
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on August 04, 2006, 09:32:12 PM
To me, everyone talking here is either from CUW, Lakeland, or Mac.  Everyone is making their conference predictions.  My basis for my outlook is that I just finished up my 4 year IBFC career this past season.  Anyways here's how I see the conference.....(in no particular order)

Lakeland and CUW are the perennial powerhouses of the conference in recent years.  Their recruiting and coaching has been at a good constant.  I have noticed that Gabe is good at adapting his playbook to his players, which is good in maximizing the talent of the team.

Aurora - this team is a toss-up every year.  They are always physical, but you just don't know how they are going to fare against the rest of the teams.  Some years they are excellent, like their playoff year, but others they disappoint.

Greenville - vastly improved over my 4 years.  One thing though, is they seem to play to the level of their opponent, which is excellent against CUW and Lakeland.  But for sure, very much improved.

Mac - hard physical players with no discipline.  In recent years, if you just frusterate Mac, they'll beat themselves.  If they want to win the conference like some say, they have to get this under control.

CUC (formerly CURF) -  hasn't had the pleasure of a consistant coaching staff in 5 years.  They do however play hard for the whole game.  In the past couple of years, the small roster is what hurt them as they have played with many teams through 2 1/2 quarters.  New coach this year though.

Benedictine - inconsistant staffing.  I don't know too much about Bene, but that they do have some athletes on their squad.

Eureka - This coaching staff is unbelievable.......in how bad they are.  d3 football isn't about publicity or pro contracts.  It's about the love and passion of playing the game.  Instead of just majoring at a state school, D3 athletes endure HUGE student loans, just to play 4 more years.  By not coming out for the second half against CUW (from what I hear), those coaches just robbed seniors from both teams the opportunity to play out their final game of their lives!  What a great game this is, and these coaches just took the last 30 minutes.  I bet Ronald Reagan wouldn't have quit!  Disgrace!

Sorry about the rant, overall, I see Lakeland and CUW atop the conference.  All the other teams are in a mix, and just depending on how they play and are coached.  I expect this season to be much more even in the standings.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 07, 2006, 07:27:07 AM
grover1728:
     All thought out comments are always welcome. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: touchdownjesus on August 08, 2006, 08:04:36 PM
In repsonse to Eureka College - Grover1728 - you are misinformed.  First, EC coaching staff and players wanted to play; their associate AD (also head athletic trainer) made the call to forfeit the game.  He did so for two reasons.  One - he had witnessed a person struck by lightning and did not want to re-live the experience.  The storm that day had plenty of lightning and the radar showed that the cell was not leaving anytime soon.  In fact as the EC bus left the CUW campus that day at 4 PM it was still storming and already too dark to complete the game.  Two - EC entered the game with 32 healthy players.  The HC suspended one player for throwing his helment, which I witnessed and support the HC's decision.  The AD/HT had deemed two more players unfit to play.  That is 29 EC players -  playing on a rain-drench field, in the dark, and the outcome of the game is already decided.  I feel for the CUW players that did not get to play that day, but as a parent I certainly understand the AD/HT's decision to error on the side of caution.  Also, EC did play the next week.  They went to the University of Chicago with 28 players dressed.  Many played both ways that day - esspecially along the O-line-D-Line.  Chicago won 55-7, but there was no quit in the EC players or the staff.  EC actually installed the wing-t due to the shortage of available players.  So I would not question EC's staff or players until you have walk in their shoes.

Best of luck to all the IBFC teams in the last two years of the conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on August 08, 2006, 10:21:39 PM
Sorry about the rant tdj.  I most definately was misinformed.  My apologizes to EC and their staff. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: touchdownjesus on August 09, 2006, 08:00:30 PM
Thanks Grover -

Here are my predictions for 2006

CUW
Lakeland
Aurora
Greenville
MacMurray
Benedictine
CURF
Eureka

I do believe there willl be plenty of upsets.  The top two are not as far ahead of the pack as last year.  Greenville, Mac, and Ben. will all be stronger than last year.  EC and CURF will also be better, but both are a couple of good recruiting classes away from be consistantly competitive in any conference.  With 4 teams with 2nd HC's and CURF with a HC in his first things should be interesting.  I do think EC will improve greatly, their coach is basically in his first year in 05, July hire last summer.  According to their website the facilites are improving. 

On a different note heard the IBFC is using 7 officials this year.  Helps passing teams, there is a lot of contact between middle routes and defenders in the confr.  I think it will hurt teams like Ben. due to how active their MLB is.  Cooper has always coached those guys to be tough on middle routes, expect more flags and more coaches acting out of character.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on August 10, 2006, 08:46:06 AM
In college defenders are allowed to hit a receiver down field as long as the ball is not in the air. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on August 10, 2006, 06:18:36 PM
Maddog,

How did Ryan end up doing in his first start at QB? I tried checking on the Blue Devils' website but I couldn't read it since it's in German.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 10, 2006, 09:04:40 PM
Bug Uns, whats up Ryan had a great game only to go in defeat, they had 5 starters out in that game. he  had 187 yrds rushing on 20 carriers and one TD, and was 22-30 for 266 and 1 TD no picks, but again way to many starters out going against a team who has won 29 straight. He starts again tomorrow. Having a blast out there. I mean its business first but hes seeing the world first hand and getting paid for it.Good Luck to all this coming season and "MUSKIES RULE"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 15, 2006, 09:06:56 AM
 Concordia Cougars:  In the last seven years from 1999 thru 2005 they have won (5) games over-all and only (3) conference games.
  They have a new Offensive coordinator as well as a new Defensive
   coordinator.  Will the "new" philosphies translate into wins?
  They pretty much got blown out last year with their "best" effort being
   against  Benedictine losing by(7) points in OT.
   Those  are the facts.
  One thing about the Cougars they show up and play.  Will that program ever get better?  It seems , by their past record, the jury is still out.
   As programs are rated on wins and losses over time it seems to me
   the Cougars are in for another tough season.
   As i said ,"they show up and play" every game but IMO, they will go
   1-9 overall and 1-5 in conference play.
   Who will they beat?  Benedictine of course. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 15, 2006, 10:04:30 PM
Gomer I agree with most of what you mentioned about Concordia.  I do believe that Concordia can turn it around.  I think Coach Pruess is a start.  He is an Alum and knows that it is his blood and sweat that are still on that field.  I think the program needs some direction and consecutive years of strong recruiting.  Not just 1-2 years, more like 4-5 years of solid recruits to build a base.  It is a shame that the Cougars have been in a long tailspin, because the school is very pretty and in a beautiful (and historic  FLWright)  part of the city.  I think the only direction the program can go is up... and hopefully it happens soon.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 16, 2006, 10:07:53 AM
  Eureka Red Devils:
   
    During the years 1999 thru 2005 they have won 11 conference games
    Average that out and and the number is pretty paltry.
    Funny thing though they( Eureka) have played tough in some big games
    just ask Mac or Lakeland. 
     The Red Devils, while getting blown out most games last year, have no
     place to go but up. Is this the break out year for a program that has
    been consistantly in the lower half of the IBFC?
    Eureka has a new Head Coach plus some new assistant coaches, can they put a winner on the field? Better yet, do they have enough talent to
   make a statement ?
    Most teams have talent but the good ones have lots of talent year in and year out.  Winning seems to draw players to these programs.
   Here`s some stat`s, the Red Devils gave up 41 points a game last season and only scored 8 per game while their average "rush" per game was .7. 
   That`s .7 of a yard!  Lots of work needed for sure on both sides of the ball.
   2006 doesn`t look to good for Eureka IMO. Not enough overall talent
   and with new coaches lots to learn. Course we`ll all know after the season.
    1-9 over-all and 1-5 conference. Who are they going to beat? That`s the scary part. I think they`ll take out a upper tier team. My Up-set special.
   
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 16, 2006, 07:24:35 PM
Gomer ready for the season, Here is the deal if I make to the Mac/Lakeland game loser has too by dinner, I'm not cheap either. I'll spot you 1 point seeing that Mac will be up there. Deal???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2006, 07:49:14 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on August 16, 2006, 07:24:35 PM
Gomer ready for the season, Here is the deal if I make to the Mac/Lakeland game loser has too by dinner, I'm not cheap either. I'll spot you 1 point seeing that Mac will be up there. Deal???

(1)  Am i ready for the season?   You bet.
(2)  The Mac/Lakeland game.  No "spotting" of points required as i believe
   Lakeland will take that one. Remember a few seasons ago Lakeland gave
   Mac one of their worst beatings ever! Disgraceful!!
  (3) " Loser to buy dinner."  I`m not local so for that to happen you`ll need
   at least ( 2 )vacation days plus you`ll need to dress like Mel Allen ;D
   (4) "I`m not cheap either."  So i`ve been told.
   (5)  Your always welcome to PM  me. 
   
   
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 17, 2006, 09:23:18 AM
Deal Gomer question what is PM mean, yeh I am ready too, should be a good season for all teams, I do think it still comes down the Lakeland and CUW.  But I think Mac, Greenville and AU always have a shot with a few breaks.  Lakelands, Wilk will handle the job in Ryans absence, no doubt in my mind, But I can't wait for the Pain Train to start hitting, that will be exciting, Busha is a bitch, and his buddy Hornes, well lets just say He is the A.J. Hawk of Lakeland. Fun fun fun for all to feel. God I love this game.  Yeh, if your at the game we could go in town before I head back to Detroit.  ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2006, 10:13:10 AM
   Maddog:
     What does PM mean?  Click on "Gomer Pyle" and follow your nose.
     He`s the A J Hawk of the Lakeland.  Put down the pipe and walk away
    or at least open the window in your trailer and get some fresh air.
    Being in Gator country i doubt that i`ll be at the game. I see you can
     read but it`s the comprehension thats giving you trouble.  ;D
     I guess that goes along with being a "car" exec.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
   
   
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 17, 2006, 12:20:40 PM
OH MY GOODNESS!!!

This is my first post in like a year, but my first one not being a player.  Anyhow, about CUC (formerly CURF).  In the past we have usually had about 35-45 guys with Conwell not really recruiting that well, I don't know why he just wasn't any good at getting numbers (in my opinion).  Anyhow, CUC has about 70 or so in camp this year with some real badass recruits that Pries has brought in, even from as far as Florida.  I have spoken with some guys and they say its just a whole different atmosphere with Pries taking over.  Pries is making them work harder and condition harder than Conwell ever did.  Maybe that's why we would hang with teams for about 2 1/2 quarters could have possibly been our conditioning, but who knows.  I remember last year playing Mac it was 14-14 going into halftime, and then we lost big, it really seemed like we gave up and just tired out. 

Anyway, back to CUC they will be stronger, faster and more conditioned this year, plus the fact they have 30 more guys than they usually do means other teams probably can't take CUC too lightly this year.  They are finally getting numbers with Pries in there, and not just numbers, players who can step out there and get the job done. 

I remember Maddog awhile ago saying that CUC will go 5-5 this year, I say at least 5 wins....and if not, then what do I know, it's just post patterns.  I really don't think they will be tested until October when they have MAC, CUW, Aurora, Lakeland and Greenville all in a row to finish out the season....that's some tough football at the end.

And Jaybird - CUCs campus is amazing, surrounded by multi Million dollar homes it's an awesome place to go to school.  Like you said Frank Loyyd Wrights home is there, Al Capones (former home of course) is few blocks away, they shot a scene of Prison Break accross the street, Kathy Griffins house in near, and I think the old Guy from Frasier has a house there as well.  The point is you show most guys the school and where its located it may be enough for them to attend, I know it was for me.  I just hope Pries can keep it going in the future and actually stay more than 1 year.  Unlike each coach the past 5 years.

And GO COUGARS!!!!  September 2nd baby

Glad to see Ryan tearing it up over there though Maddog
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on August 17, 2006, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 16, 2006, 10:07:53 AM
    Funny thing though they( Eureka) have played tough in some big games
    just ask Mac or Lakeland.

I asked Lakeland, they said they have outscored Eureka 338-10 since 1999 and have shut out the Devils every year since 2001. Yep, real tough.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2006, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on August 17, 2006, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 16, 2006, 10:07:53 AM
    Funny thing though they( Eureka) have played tough in some big games
    just ask Mac or Lakeland.

I asked Lakeland, they said they have outscored Eureka 338-10 since 1999 and have shut out the Devils every year since 2001. Yep, real tough.

  Big_Uns:
    As i was in error your facts are correct.........to a point.
    I ment to say Mac and Con,W.  Really.
    Eureka lost to Mac  7-0 in 2002 and Mac went on to win the conference title. 
     Eureka lost to Con,W 7-3 in 2004 and Con,W went on to win the title.
    Ok, they tied for it.
   I said in part," have played tough in some big games." Which i have backed up.  Few and far between but "some" is the operative word.
  So to use your comment............i`d say Eureka played"real tough."
   I left the "yep" out as i didn`t want to seem sarcastic. 
   


 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 18, 2006, 11:23:47 AM
Baseman21-- You are right about the River Forest Community.  I live about 20 minutes or so NW of River Forest.  Similar to Elmhurst,  River Forest is a very elegant community with the school embedded in the beauty.  I always have felt that schools like CUC/Elm/Wheaton/North Central/Benedictine, etc.  should use the surrounding neighborhood as a selling tool.   I am glad to hear that Coach Pries is getting players to come and play for CUC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on August 18, 2006, 11:48:24 PM
This might be a dumb question, so please forgive me.  However, I see where some of you have mentioned that Concordia University in River Falls has apparently changed its name to CUC?  I must have missed that - what was the reason for the change and does it stand for Concordia University of Chicago?  I looked on their website and didn't see anything about it - maybe I missed that too!  Thanks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on August 18, 2006, 11:51:44 PM
Oops, my bad.  I see now where they have changed the website to include the new name.  I had checked last week and it hadn't shown that, but didn't re-check it before posting just before this one.  Anyway, still was curious as to why the name change.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on August 19, 2006, 02:13:40 PM
There some freak games out there where teams that don't belong in games somehow hang aournd.  As for the CUW EC game EC did have a decent defense that year, but CUW was looking for a possible playoff game coming up and to our mistake let EC come out fired up and hang around.  They were then kept in the game by one of the worst officiating crews in the history of football.  But that is why you have to come to play every week, thats why the game of football is so great. 

I think this is going to be a great year for the conferance as a whole, I think we are all ready to kick off the season. 

Who is scrimagiing who this year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 19, 2006, 03:40:28 PM
I know Benedictine is scrimmaging Illinois Wesleyan at Benedictine next Saturday.  I don't recall what time though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 20, 2006, 06:57:01 PM
Formerd3db-

It's River FOREST by the way not River Falls.  It's ok, I will forgive you this time.

They felt that naming the school Concorida University of Chicago would bring more students since more people know about Chicago and have heard nothing about River Forest.   I think it's a change for the better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on August 20, 2006, 07:08:24 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 20, 2006, 06:57:01 PM
Formerd3db-

It's River FOREST by the way not River Falls.  It's ok, I will forgive you this time.

They felt that naming the school Concorida University of Chicago would bring more students since more people know about Chicago and have heard nothing about River Forest.   I think it's a change for the better.

I guess 'of Chicago' is not TOO dishonest - if I recall correctly, the city line is probably less than a mile away!  (My brother taught at Oak Park-River Forest HS for 30+ years.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on August 20, 2006, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 20, 2006, 06:57:01 PM
Formerd3db-

It's River FOREST by the way not River Falls.  It's ok, I will forgive you this time.

They felt that naming the school Concorida University of Chicago would bring more students since more people know about Chicago and have heard nothing about River Forest.   I think it's a change for the better.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on August 20, 2006, 07:08:24 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 20, 2006, 06:57:01 PM
Formerd3db-

It's River FOREST by the way not River Falls.  It's ok, I will forgive you this time.

They felt that naming the school Concorida University of Chicago would bring more students since more people know about Chicago and have heard nothing about River Forest.   I think it's a change for the better.

I guess 'of Chicago' is not TOO dishonest - if I recall correctly, the city line is probably less than a mile away!  (My brother taught at Oak Park-River Forest HS for 30+ years.)


baseman201:

My apologies. :-[  I knew I was going to make that mistake in typing in River Falls instead of River Forest (believe it or not, I do know the difference between those schools in WI and IL i.e. both Concordias and the UW-RF)!  I guess in my rush to post, I inadvertantly typed in just what I wanted to avoid.  Sorry.  Anyway, I think you are probably right about the name change.  Hopefully, with the new fb staff and facilities, they can improve the program.  I remember playing them "way back when" in my day.  Best of luck to them this year.

Mr. Ypsi:

I think you are right also.  Yes, it is just a few thousand feet away basically.  Nice area though.  BTW, hope all is well with you and yours.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 20, 2006, 10:42:37 PM
haha, ok I forgive you just this once.

Yeah, the border to Chicago is just down the street, but close enough right??

yeah, I think Pries will pull it together with everyone he is bringing in.  But no one will know until the season starts now will we.

Mr. Ypsi-

Your brother taught there huh?  See if he knows a teacher there named Todd Black.  He was an old coach of ours and played for River Forest back in the mid 80s (when we were a winning team).  He even made the Chicago Bears roster and played a couple games for them.  Anyhow, ask your brother if he knows anything of him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 21, 2006, 11:57:21 AM
The smell of Fall Football is in the air! The sound of pads popping and play calling is echoing out of every football College and University in the Nation. 

The Illini-Badger Conf. last year had a good showing. Lakeland and Con-Wisc, battled it out while sleeping giants of Aurora and Greenville awoke and gave Lakeland and Conc-WISC conference title hope scares that someone may have to share. Then the rest of the IBC looked forward to Winter Break and next season.

This year a similar picture will develope as Greenville will make a STRONG run for the IBC Championship Title. 

Greenville took some SR losses this season, but regained because each of those SR's were sharing alot of playing with their 2006 replacements.
QB Lee Thompson is gone but to fill his shoes will be Dominic Kegal. Conc-WISC remembers "Dom" for the 61yd pass he threw to Bryson Taylor to give GC the lead with 4:00 remaining in the game.  "Dom" is back and so is his run and gun technique that makes him look like a white Michael Vick.

The huge GC Offensive Line is all back this fall with exception of Derek Robinsion. He shared playing time as a result of injuries with Aaron Mingo and Casey Schwartzlose who both return this season as "Shake & Bake".

Defensive will be quick and big like last year. The DL all return this season and Mark Shopp returns also. QB's from around the IBC remember him because he picked off 1 or 2 of their passes. 

My Predictions this year for the IBC  is....

1) Greenville College Panthers
2) Lakeland College
3) Aurora
4) Concordia WIS
5) McMurray
6) Eureka
7) Benedictine
8) Concordia (IL)

Good Luck to everyone in the IBC this year and God Bless!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 21, 2006, 05:18:54 PM
Truecountry95,

While I agree Greenville is going to be better and an exciting group,  I wouldn't put them into the 1 or 2 category yet.  That's not to say I don't think they are capable of getting there, I think they have a lot of "ifs" on defense to sort out first.
Yes, there O-Line will be a strong anchor, but I focus more on the D-Line. (and that goes for all teams)  Each and every team needs a strong D-Line because there has to be penetration and a D-Line presence, otherwise the opposing Offense is going to have a field day.  For Greenville's sake, I hope they prove me wrong and finish at the top.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superstar on August 22, 2006, 09:20:42 AM
aurora u all the way....  bar none.  arent they always favored?  ha.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Doctor Swole on August 24, 2006, 05:16:40 PM
Long-time viewer, first-time poster.

I'm curious as to why Benedictine isn't up there on everyone's lists. Can someone answer that?

Last year, people on here were saying how now that Benedictine has a new coach in Cooper that they would be so much better, etc.

Well...they won 2 more games last year than the year before...so why aren't people acting THIS year on the board like they were LAST year?

BU has basically the same team this year. They lost two key players....the rest return. In addition, they have added some 50 freshman/transfers....giving them their biggest numbers in years.

So my question is....why aren't people singing Benedictine's praises like they were last year? Is it that these same people last year found out that they were wrong, or what?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 25, 2006, 10:33:25 AM
Doctor Swole:  Easy.   If you`ve noticed this site hasn`t woken up yet.
     Any day now the pronosticators will come alive and i`m sure somebody
     will bring up BU.
    As far as last year goes BU did rise from the ashes (sort of) and win more games. I`d say their biggest win was against an under achieving
   MacMurray team. 
   You said in part,".......why aren`t people singing Benedictine`s praises......
   ..." to that i say, if they do "something" this year they`ll get it.
   Potential and results are to different things. If BU has a good year the fat-
  lady will sing their praises no doubt.
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 25, 2006, 01:43:24 PM
Just because you have brought in a new coach. (And I think Cooper is a very good coach with a good fb mind), doesn't mean you will instantly rise to success.
I usually tell people it takes 3-4 years when you bring in a new coaching staff.
Until Benedictine starts putting together consistency (and not just W's),  they will not be having a chorus of singers backing them up.
I think Benedictine will be better, but they will still have the "old" image with them, until they start winning ballgames and improving.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on August 25, 2006, 03:47:33 PM
You see the thing with BU last year was that they had nowhere to go but up and this board recognized that.......This yaer they will need to step up.......they dont rate high due to history.......My preseason list stiil holds true for me....check the archives if u wanna see.............
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Doctor Swole on August 25, 2006, 05:06:52 PM
To Gomer:

Well I asked why people aren't singing Benedictine's praises because last year at this time...people (especially AU alums) were acting as if Benedictine was going to meet Mount Union in the Stagg Bowl (obviously an exaggeration) because of the hiring of Cooper. So in turn, I question why after an improvement of last season (of the record)....why aren't they getting similar treatment (if not better) than last preseason? Especially when they've only lost 2 key players.

To 79:

I agree....just because you bring in a new coach doesn't mean you will instantly rise to success. But, I remember reading last year (as I said to Gomer above) about how Cooper is this great coach (mostly by AU players), etc.

I figured that AU "chorus" would be back again. Where are they?

Also, I just noticed that Benedictine has dropped Carthage and added North Park to try and weaken their schedule. Will that be a good game considering North Park has improved with the help of Mike Holmgren's donations to upgrade the NPU facilities?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 25, 2006, 05:35:31 PM
Doctor Swole,  I was somewhat surprised when I saw IBC dropped Carthage to pick up North Park.  I don't know what the ground(s) were for this change and would be interested in finding out.
North Park, while their record the last few years has not been great, is not a team to take lightly!  Ask Elmhurst or some of the other schools where NPU has nearly upset the favorite the last few years.
IMO, I think North Park is at a higher level than IBC right now, but again anything could happen.
IBC plays Elmhurst/North Park/North Central from the CCIW.  Not a bad 3 game non conf. slate.  There have been talks in the past of having Benedictine join the CCIW (mostly due to geography), but nothing ever availed.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on August 25, 2006, 07:51:24 PM
who are the two key players that BU has lost?  Id think there was more than jsut 2.  Bob sanchez has a huge sack.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Doctor Swole on August 25, 2006, 11:46:54 PM
Jaybird,

It was not a surprise to me when I heard BU dropped Carthage, considering Carthage has dropped BU big 3 years in a row. I think the grounds were simple...they knew they had no chance at competing with Carthage, so rather than play one of the best in the CCIW, play one of the worst. And no, that is not to say North Park is bad, because North Park would be right smack in the middle in the IBFC.

As for your other comment, I have never heard such a thing, but that is honestly scary. If BU were to join the CCIW, that would be silly. They are already one of the worst teams in the IBC, which is probably the worst conference in the nation. One could only imagine how bad they would be in one of the top conferences.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on August 26, 2006, 03:26:26 PM
79jaybird,

your post shows your lack of research or knowledge of the conference. Greenville had one of the better defenses in the conference. Neither CUW nor Lakeland scored more than 19 against them. Behind CUW, i beleive that have the best DL coming back. All 3 starters are back, 1team all conference #65 had 9.5 sacks last year.

Unless they lost a bunch of people in the offseason they had a bunch of starters coming back on Defense. The question is whether they will have an offense this season. Because they certainly didn't have one last year.

1. CUW
2. Lakeland
3. GC
4. Bene
5. Aurora
6. Mac
7. Eureka
8. CURF

i put lakeland at #2 off general principle. But they have the most of any team to replace.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 26, 2006, 07:08:43 PM
Hello football fans, well here we gob ;D Although Lakeland has a lot to fill, Coach "Z" recruits well.  Lakeland on O will be tough to stop. IU said it Wilk will fill the void very well in place of Maiuri, McAurther White could be the most explosive receiver  the conference has seen. He has that much potential, remember he play D-1 football at No. Ill before transfering to Lakeland. And lets not forget the pain train Busha (Wagner and Nitchke (Hornes). But truthfully CUW hands down has the best D-Line this coinference will face. Langston is Conference player of the year. Allen runner up for CUW's D-line. Lakeland still best O-line with CUW almost even in this cat. Alot of you guys have Mac way to low in your standings they will fight greenville for 3rd spot. Personally I am glad Lakeland has Greenville first after there tough pre-season schedule they should fair well against a tough Greenville D.  Overall they have one of the best D-s in the conference. Wilk will dominate at QB just watch!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on August 27, 2006, 10:55:44 PM

McAurther white is a very explosive reciever. However he dropped more balls than anyone i saw play in the conference. It is probably why he wasn't 1st team all conference last year. I'm from the northern part of illinois and i got to see him in high school at Zion Benton. He may have went to NIU but he wasn't a scholarship player out of high school. CUW has the best wr in the conference easily. Then the kid from Mac.
I'd put White as 4th or 5th with #11 from greenville. If he had better hands white would be the best in the conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 28, 2006, 09:19:37 AM
Maddog:  Nice to see an un-biased opinion. No not yours, the one by Genius!   ;D
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 28, 2006, 09:38:56 AM
  Mac gets to play THE #14 RANKED TEAM IN D-3 this saturady, 9/2 on their home field. Do you think the "home crowd" will help, make no difference,
  will they even fill the seats?
   Does Mac have enough "team" to play Augustana play for play?
   For Augustana to stay at #14 or move up they`ll have to whip Mac like a
    rented mule and you can bet that`s exactly what they will do.
  Augustana will show Mac why they are ranked that high and Mac will wish
   they were already in that "other" conference.
   Augustana gets the "W" and Mac gets the "whipping."
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 28, 2006, 10:24:43 AM
  Lakeland College gets to play UW-Whitewater the #2 team ranked team
  in D-3 this saturday at Whitewater and it`s a night game.
  Got to give Lakeland credit for scheduling  one of the best teams in D-3
  but you can bet lakeland will be UW-WW`s rented mule at this game.
  If Whitewater has any aspirations about finishing the year on top and playing for a National Championship then the road to that goal starts
  with the dismantling of Lakeland.
  Some have said LC has the next AJ Hawk as a LB plus the best WR in the IBC well that may be how they see it (which is ok) but the fact remains Whitewater is going to demonstrate to all why they are ranked #2 in D-3.
   UW-WW gets the "W" .  Lakeland still complaining about something.   
 
   
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 28, 2006, 10:51:24 AM
Doctor Swole,  are you implying that Carthage is a better team than North Central and Elmhurst?  I would put NC/EC/Carthage all in the same group as even.  So I am surprised IBC would drop Carthage.  To get better, you have to play better teams, so inserting NPU just didn't make any sense IMO.
If IBC was to join the CCIW, yes they would get their lunch handed to them the first couple of years, however-  They would also have an easier time recruiting and getting people to look at IBC, because of their upgrades in the athletic conference.  The CCIW is well recognized as one of the best D-3 conferences in all sports, and would help IBC in every regard, if they were to change.  Case in point, it probably will never happen, so this is kind of "besides the point."
Gomer-- While I agree with most of your comments,  I do think each and every team has a chance.  I think Augie and UWW will come out with victories, but I think the Augie/Lakeland game will be closer than what people might envision.
Anybody know where to get the probable starters for Benedictine?  Their website is not the greatest in finding out info. for this weekend's game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Doctor Swole on August 28, 2006, 04:33:53 PM
79,

The post was not to imply that Carthage is a better team than North Central and Elmhurst...it was simply to inform that Benedictine has been kicked around by Carthage for the last few years ever since dropping University of Chicago for them (why, I couldn't tell you).

I wouldn't put Elmhurst in the same group as North Central and Carthage though, but that's a whole different argument which I don't care to delve into.

Here's the reasoning: BU and North Central every year is inevitable. The two schools are down the street...so it's going to happen.

Elmhurst is also "somewhat" of a local game. It's what? A 20 minute ride tops? Even if EC/BU doesn't have a rivalry...the fact that the neighborhoods are close makes it one.

Carthage is the odd man out. But even if Carthage and Elmhurst were the same distance...I would certainly rather play Elmhurst considering Carthage's history and most importantly, recent history. Benedictine figured....ok....we're getting our heads kicked in by the top-middle half of the CCIW, let's go to the bottom...maybe we'll win a game.

And "to get better, you have to play better teams" isn't always true. You've been listening to too many pep talks from coaches. Now, when you are an already established "good" team, playing "good" teams like you makes you better than playing bad teams. That's not the case with Benedictine. They are not "good" anymore. Therefore, they should play as many games against teams that are on their level. When they win those, then they should step up the competition. They stand much more of a chance against North Park than Carthage.

And to your final comment regarding BU...you're right, they'll never be in the CCIW. It just won't happen.

Let's play the Devil's advocate and say BU did join the CCIW...I can't see it doing anything for recruiting. Why would you want to a join a team who loses their conference games by 30-40 points? Especially when you have North Central down the block and Elmhurst down 294. At least in the IBC there are teams like CURF, Eureka, Greenville, and MAC that are beatable every year. In the CCIW....the only beatable team every year is North Park.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 28, 2006, 05:23:11 PM
Yeah,

Lakeland will probably get a butt kicking and 1/2.  Remember last year, I think the score was what? 73-12?  And yet Lakeland won the conference (which shows the quality of the IBC)

I give them credit for their scheduling as well.  But you never know what is going to happen.

You know the saying, any given...........Saturday.

Good luck to Lakeland though nonetheless.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 28, 2006, 05:39:40 PM
Doctor Swole-- I did see some of the scores the last few times between Carthage/Benedictine.. and yes they weren't very close.
I will have you know 2 of the last 3 Elmhurst/North Central games were decided in the final 5 minutes of the game.  I think the majority of the CCIW posters (over on other board) would put NC/EC/Carthage/(this year) Wheaton/Millikin in the same group.
I agree that the neighborhood and proximity makes these rivals worthwhile.  We know at this current moment, Benedictine is not very good.  I disagree though that playing other mediocre teams (just to get the W) is going to make you better.  If crummy team A plays crummy teams B and C their first 2 weeks of the season, how does crummy team A improve? They might be 2-0 but when they play a decent Team D, they will still get flattened.
I did play and have heard the pep talks ;D, but I have also experienced it at Elmhurst.  I played on some pretty poor teams there, but we still played competition that was better than us, to see where we had to be.
I hope IBC improves and gets better. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Doctor Swole on August 28, 2006, 11:08:56 PM
Bird,

Well...I'm not comparing North Central and Elmhurst. They are pretty equal teams for the most part...especially with Radtke and Spencer gone now. But like I said, BU would never drop North Central.

But still...I'd rather play Elmhurst than Carthage. Even if the CCIW has Carthage finishing 3rd...I'm sure Benedictine didn't base it on that. They based it on how the teams have been over the past few years...and Carthage has been better than Elmhurst.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the other point. I still believe that if a team is getting smoked by the same team every year...dial it down a notch. Losing by 40 points doesn't make you better. North Park is a better opponent for Benedictine than Carthage. You could probably say "Well, losing to Carthage big will prepare them better for Conc-Wisc, Lakeland, etc. but I don't believe that. I really don't believe you learn anything when you lose by 40 points, other than the fact that you don't belong on the field with that opponent...and that has been the case with Benedictine and Carthage games lately.

NPU/Benedictine will be a close game. Benedictine will actually be making themselves better for conference because they'll be in tight situations where they will actually have to think....and the coordinators will have to think...about which plays to run. That will help them. What's there to think about when you're down 4 TD's? Umm...let's air it out. Or umm...let's just run the clock out and run plays. You don't learn anything from getting crushed (unless it's  a once in a season thing...we'll call it a wakeup call). Getting crushed 3-4 times in a season isn't a wakeup call.

Elmhurst and NC will destroy BU as it is...why not have some momentum going into conference by getting a close win against NP...or even a close loss...rather than losing by 5 TD's to a team that will have their starters pulled midway through the 3rd?

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 29, 2006, 09:46:36 AM
DoctorSwole--  Agreed. ;D  Carthage the last few seasons has been a better team overall than EC. Benedictine/North Park will be an interesting game.  Two teams with similar storylines.  North Park is in search of their first CCIW win in 5 years, so you see they too have their problems competing.
Title: CURF and Coach Conwell
Post by: one_timer on August 29, 2006, 09:56:55 PM
As you can tell from my account name, I want to post just one item in my tenure on this board.  I am struck by the intensity and the interest from all of you that follow such teams as CURF, Benedictine, etc.   I think the list goes on...

Now to the purpose of my post.  I first met Coach Conwell when he was coaching at Carthage.  I kept in touch with him as he moved to CURF, and now I understand he is an assistant at Benedictine.  I found him to be a fair and honest person, who always worked hard no matter where he was at.  I don't know all of the details about his situation at CURF, but I do know that he returned quickly following significant surgery with the intent of trying to make the best of a not very good situation that was dumped on him when he got the head job.  That being said, he has since left CURF (or CURF left him), and knowing Coach Conwell as I do, I am sure that he wishes the current players only the best. 

I have read a number of somewhat disparaging comments about Coach Conwell on this board.  It seems like a number of them have been made and continue to be made by current or former players at CURF.  I don't want to name names, but if the shoe fits...I guess I would have to say to those players that find Coach Conwell an easy target for their lack of interest in the off-season conditioning program, or their non-involvement in the weight program, or just their not taking any responsibility for their actions, to wait a while until you have done something significant in your life before you find the time to criticize others.  Graduating from college does not qualify you to judge someone who has worked his whole life in the coaching profession for far less money while putting in more time at his job than I'll wager you do/receive at your job (probably not the best grammar, but I'll bet you get the idea). 

By all means, spend your energies talking about the year that CURF or Carthage or Elmhurst has had, but leave Coach Conwell and all the other coaches you want to criticize out of it.  If you get the chance, why don't you just say 'thank you?'

I didn't mean to preach, but take it from someone in his 60's who has both played on coached on the college level, Coach Conwell is a fine human being, and if you really feel the need to criticize someone, you ought to look elsewhere, because Coach Conwell is way out of your league.  I would probably wager most of what I got that none of you making the negative comments about Coach Conwell would ever say anything negative to his face.  Grow up, and recognize that life isn't always a bowl of cherries.  Sometimes life is a bitch, but learn to take responsibility for your actions.

That being said - it's a great time of year...start of college football.  Did not want to preach, but wanted to say this for a long time.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FormerCard on August 30, 2006, 10:52:26 AM
My prayers and thoughts go out the family and teammates at AU of Sean Elliot.  That is a tragic situation no matter how it is looked at.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on August 30, 2006, 11:04:22 AM
Congrats to CUW sticking it to Carthage in their pre-season scrimmage.  Keep working hard CUW. Good luck to all my boys.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 30, 2006, 11:45:18 AM
FalcsFB-- I think CUW has the possibility of having a great year.  From what I have heard (now this is 3rd party), they really handed Carthage their lunch. Yes it is a srimmage and Pre-Season, but still  I heard CUW was able to move the ball up and down the field with ease.
One-Timer-- Whoa!! :o  Easy their fella.  Your post is Pro-Conwell.  I am Pro-Conwell also and have had great talks with him in the past.  However, there is always two sides to every story.  I think he is a great person.  Great coach?  I have my thoughts, you have yours, and every other player is going to have his or hers, etc.
IMO, I don't think the criticism, comments, and views about Conwell are at all badgering or degrading to Coach Conwell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bigFan0111 on August 30, 2006, 02:06:01 PM
ANy one have any predictions for this weekend??? i believe that UWW will spank Lakeland hard, and CUW will beat Simpson.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Doctor Swole on August 30, 2006, 08:19:39 PM
Elmhurst 45 BU 7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on August 30, 2006, 08:28:35 PM
I agree Jaybird it is a definite possibility I think if they play to potential like I know they can (we never took any team lightly) I think they can run away with the conference championship.  I talked to a lot of my friends still playing and what you heard was pretty much correct.  Just to add the fact the defense allowed only a few first downs and no scores.  Good point about it being preseason now they have to coninue on that path.  CUW's closest game is Lakeland and LC won't be withing 3 touchdowns like the past 4 out of 5 years Greenville will be good but they play at CUW and they have not come to play there in a long time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on August 30, 2006, 10:50:50 PM
I know you all missed me...I know you did. It seems that I've missed a lot in my absence...actually no I haven't.

I see the talk of Benedictine University and John Cooper has died down since last year around this time. Did we finally come to grips with reality all you Cooper Crazies? Let's hope so. BU won 2 more games last year than when Cooper wasn't there...but did they really improve? Hardly...

They were blown out in 4 games...lost 44-27 to North Central in a game where the score certainly didn't tell all...as BU scored half of those points on the NCC 2nd team.

In the 2nd half of the season...a tough loss to a decent Greenville team. Not bad at all. Next game...shut out by Aurora. Next 2...wins over Eureka and Mac...two sloppy teams, but wins nonetheless. The team looked to be on the rise...and then needs overtime to beat a pathetic CURF squad.

BU scored 185 points last year. 54 of those points belonged to Sergo, who is gone.  18 of those are gone with their Fullback.

The only 2 offensive weapons BU had last year are finished...did they restock? The answer is no.

I don't know if this is true...but rumor has it that Jon Cooper is to blame for Sergo not coming back for his final year of eligibility.  Cooper singlehandedly kept Sergo off of the All-Conference 1st team from what I heard from certain coaches and "league" sources. Is it true? You be the judge. Personally, I don't see how a guy with 9 touchdowns and 24 catches doesn't make the team. You do the math folks...more than 1 out of every 3 times he caught the ball, he scored.

Did the BU receiving core restock? Not so much.

But out with the old, in with the new. BU opens up against Elmhurst...and arguably a better Elmhurst team than last year. What does this mean? Well, it means Elmhurst won 52-6 last year...and it might be a lot worse.

What BU's game plan is this year...I couldn't tell you. We'll have to see come Saturday.

And for all of you IBFC junkies out there, here's FatPongo's preseason predictions:

1) Lakeland
2) Conc-Wisc
3) Greenville
4) Mac
5) Aurora
6) Eureka
7) CURF
8) BU








Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 31, 2006, 07:47:54 AM
  Teams that will get the "W" for this saturdays games, Sept 2nd.
   
    Aurora
    Elmhurst
    CU-W
    Eureka
    WhiteWater
    Augustana * Even though it`s spelled Augustanna on the IBFC site.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 31, 2006, 08:09:26 AM
  Oops!  Almost forgot the CU-Chicago vs Blackburn game.
          Blackburn gets the ................"W".
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 31, 2006, 09:03:45 AM
Hey One Timer-

I never said anything about Conwell being a bad person, nor did I say anything bashing the person that he is.  Conwell was an excellent person and someone you could really talk to.  I just didn't think he would be able to bring in players who could get the job done, which is why Pries is in there now, who WILL get quality players in.

That's all I was saying, let's not get all bent out of shape and start bashing those of use who have graduated college.  Of course he puts more time into his job, that's all college coaches do each and every day of the week the whole year.  Staying up till 10 or 11 pm scouting out recruits and making game plans for the week is probably the norm for college coaches.  So of course he will put in more time then a college graduate, I don't see what the point of that was.

Either way, I agree with everyones predictions this week except for CUC.  They get the win over Blackburn and go 1-0 for the first time in who knows how long.  I think it's good for CUC to be at the bottom of everyones lists though, means they have something to prove.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 31, 2006, 09:24:06 AM
Falcsfb-- Definitely the CUW/Lakeland winner is almost assuredly going to be the IBFC champ.  While Greenville is good, Aurora is better, etc. I don't see them in the same class as CUW or Lakeland at this particular time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: diehardfan on August 31, 2006, 01:57:20 PM
I just read the story in the notables, and want to offer my condolences to the Aurora community, and football team in the loss of one of your own. My brother's freshman year at Wheaton, one of his fellow freshman teammates (an outstanding young man with a promising future) died in a car crash over the summer. I still strongly remember how much it impacted the guys and colored their season.

Last year an Aurora athlete did something that I will never forget. The Aurora basketball team won our tip-off tournament, and Larry Welton, the player on the Aurora team with the best stats, won the MVP award. Larry Welton is outstanding player, and as the best player on the winning team, arguably deserved the award. However, a Wheaton player had played the game of his life, dropping thirty points for Wheaton. Obviously I only know what happened third hand, but apparently Larry Welton felt confused that he had received the award when he had only scored a third of the points that Tony had in that Championship game. He just didn't feel like he was the best player that weekend. Moreover, Welton learned that our tipoff MVP trophy had just been named after a Wheaton basketball player named Will Landry (an all-conference and academic all region player) who had tragically died of a medical condition only two months earlier. He sent the trophy back to us, saying that we should have that trophy, not him. That outstanding act of thoughtfulness and generosity left an indelible impression on me, and I know it really impacted all of us who were grieving for Will.

So with gratitude and solidarity, in the midst of this dark time for your own athletic program, please accept my fervant thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Confused77 on August 31, 2006, 02:09:56 PM
Thought I would stop in and drop a quick note. I keep an eye on Aurora as I coached with Coach Duncan at Loras.

-My thoughts and prayers are with the Aurora football family during this very difficult time. May you find the strength needed to get through this tragic loss.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 01, 2006, 12:17:58 AM
Truth is Pong believe it or Not cooper did help....The couple seasons before that they weren't winning anything....Also have you physically seen their practices and seen their team..J/W?.......I do not think that Coach Coop would do that to anybody, he was a stand up classy coach at AU and I am sure he is doing the same thing at BU.......................I believe AU and Elmhurst both get the W.............
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 01, 2006, 12:28:42 AM
Fat Pongo-

Just wanted to clear up some of that rumor.  This is JOE SERGO and as far as Coach Cooper keeping me off the team this year that is completely false as well as keeping me off the all conf team 1st.  Coach Cooper is a class act and a completely compassionate coach is the reason Im even in school now.  The reason Im not playing is because  had some very hard personal problems and i let them affect me to a point where i became ineligible.  I messed up my first semester bad and under the guidance and counseling of Coop I got through second sem with a great GPA and 6 classes.  Now i thought I was going to be eligible but I had some transcript problems I tried to fix late in the summa but was unable to.  Simply stated Coach Coop is the reason I have any kind of sanity and work ethic right now.  Now im not that important and I dont mean to act arrogantly taking up this page but I wanna defend Coach Coop for what he is and what he isnt.

Now for all the people who like to say BU and Coach Coop is cheating by saving my eligibility.  I have not been in college for seven yrs.  This is the start of my 8th semester of college.  After my first school I took a 1.5 yrs off before coming to BU.  I was very impulsive and immature in choosig a college and I paid for it.  I took a couple years to figure out if I wanted to still play ball and found a school close to home in BU.  And I LIKE it here and I LOVE the coaching staff.

Ok so for the other rumor starters out there here is all you have to know.  I have one more year left and if I choose to play it would be next yr in grad school possibly or under some other circumstances.  I am not 29 yrs old.  im only 23 as of recently.  Once again I am not that important as to post this much and jsut wanted to clear things up.

and Fat Pongo, i had 11 TD's last yr which means i had 66 points!  ; )  No harm no foul good luck to the IBC this year and every team.  We have some good offensive weapons from what I have seen so far this yr and some young talent.  They will be competitive and you know Coach coop will find players to do the job well and give BU a chance to win.

Also best wishes out to the young man from AU. 

JOSEPH A. SERGO
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 01, 2006, 10:06:45 AM
The IBC even though very week even with Lakeland, CUW, Greenville, and Aurora had a somewhat of a good showing last year. Regardless the IBC is going to be no longer after the 2007 season.  The St. Louis Intercolligiate Conference (SLIAC) takes over for some of the IBC teams. The SLIAC will begin football play in 2008, featuring 10 teams. There will be 2 divisions seperating those teams the North Div. and the South Div.  The 10 times are......   

North Div. (SLIAC Conf)
1. Crown College (MN)
2. Martin Luther College (MN)
3. University of Minnesota-Morris
4. Northwestern College (MN)
5. Principa

South Div. (SLIAC Conf)
1. Greenville College  (IBC)
2. Blackburn Colelge   
3. Eureka College      (IBC)
4. MacMurray College (IBC)
5. Westminster

They will also be a automatic qualifier for the NCAA DIV III Tourney beginning in 2010.  Does anyone know anything about some of the Norhern schools like Crown and Martin?  Should be a great Conference.


"http://www.sliac.org/other3/news01.htm"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 01, 2006, 01:56:33 PM
Aurora Preview 2006 Preview

The 2006 Aurora University football team has a much different make up than last season's Spartans who finished 5-5 overall and 5-2 in the Illini-Badger Football Conference.  A much younger Spartans team will have to come together under second-year coach Rich Duncan.
The keys for the 2006 Spartans will be the replacement of nine defensive starters, effectively establish the run game and make plays on special teams.  Duncan believes this will be a much smoother process because this is his second year with many of these players.  "Our kids will be more comfortable and they know what is expected of them", stated Duncan. 
            The defensive side of the football will see many new faces getting playing time, which Duncan and Defensive Coordinator Rob Erickson expect to be up tempo and force pressure.  With the loss of many key seniors from the 2005 season, Coach Duncan looks for players to fill the void.  Brandon McIntosh returns to AU for his senior season at defensive end and will anchor the defensive line along with sophomore defensive linemen Harvey Van Cleeve III and Marcus Goedken.  Juniors John Dahman and Dominik Chandler and freshman Pat Funk look to pressure opposing quarterbacks as well. 
Senior linebacker Chris McAndrew, who moved to linebacker after playing the three previous seasons at running back, and junior linebackers Sean Elliot and Brent Baker (19.0 tackles, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble) will be key players in the defensive midfield.  Freshmen Michael DeVries and Dave Gesiakowski will vie for playing time harassing opposing offenses.  Senior Austin Deer (39.5 tackles) will lead the secondary with sophomore Matt Meyer; juniors Eric Scott and Nick Gniedziejko and freshman Tony Musaraca joining to cause havoc in the defensive backfield along with Deer.
            Like the defense, the offense is looking for players to grasp opportunities and breakout seasons.  With the loss of senior quarterback Andrew Hornung due to injury,  Duncan will look to a trio of freshmen quarterbacks to run the AU offense.  Matt McGary, Matt Nelleman and David Manny all look to see a good amount of playing time in order to find the right man for the job.  Protecting these three young quarterbacks will be a strong group of offensive linemen.  In the mix for a starting job are returning starters seniors Nick Koch (All-IBFC 1st Team) and Mike Murphy Jr.  Also, sophomores Ryne Haberkorn, Don Robinson, Casey Schmit and freshman John McBurrows look to help give time to the young quarterbacks in the passing game.
            The offensive linemen will open holes for a solid group of running backs.  Led by junior Brent Harner (63 yards on 29 attempts).  Duncan believes the run game will be a huge factor to this year's team and will establish the physical style of play AU has been known by over the years.  Harner will be joined by sophomore Dan DeBosschere and a group of freshmen looking to prove that AU has a balanced attack on offense.  Those freshmen include Cody DeGrush, Ryne Reder and Rick Howell.  Senior Nick Paxson (159 yards on 30 attempts) will return as the Spartan's fullback.  Junior Aaron Harmon (3 catches for 70 yards) will assume the role of Tight End. 
            The group of young quarterbacks will be throwing to a group of talented wide-receivers.  Senior Danny Mackinson (234 yards on 19 catches), Junior Travis Paro (switching over from running back) and sophomore Corey Cowan all look to do their best to get open for their young quarterbacks.  Also looking to help in the receiving game is freshman Ryan Milus, Zach Sitter and Aaron Snyder.
            The Spartans special teams will have a new look as well in 2006.   Sophomore Mike Lund will assume the punting duties and he will be joined by senior James Unger (19-27 pats), freshmen Nate Rapp, Matt Kletti and Andrew Price all are battling to handle the kickoff and field goals duties for the Spartans. 
            The 2006 Spartans will look to turn their youthful exuberance into an Illini-Badger Football Conference championship and another trip to the NCAA Division III playoffs.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 01, 2006, 03:19:24 PM
FatPongo-- You must be a moron because if you knew anything about the way All Conference picks are chosen, you would know that Coach Cooper can only NOMINATE Sergo (which he did), but you can't VOTE for your own player(s).  Get with the program Pongo because you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 01, 2006, 03:20:58 PM
One other thing Pongo,  Sergo was welcomed back by Coach Cooper and the Benedictine Coaches/Players, but he is ineligble due to shortage of credits aka academically- nothing else!
Why would you (and others) post something like that? >:(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 01, 2006, 04:35:37 PM
Joseph Sergo,

It's no wonder that you are still in your undergrad at 23 years old. You lack basic reading comprehension skills.

I never said that Cooper "kept you off the team this year." I said that he was to blame for you not coming back this year.

You can toot Cooper's horn as much as you want to, but most of the league knows that you did not get along with your coaching staff last year. When they "dared" to move you wingback, you threw a hissy fit because it wasn't going to get you the numbers that you wanted...even thought it might have been better for the team.

Whether you had personal problems or not...you are not ineligible because of your grades. I have two close friends who are coaches at Illinois Wesleyan, and they have told me that the reason you are not playing there is because your 10 semesters is up. You have tried all summer long begging and pleading with IWU...but to no avail. So do not act as if you are "ineligible" because of personal problems....you're simply too old to play college football (semester wise)...so don't tell people that you have one more year left...because you don't. If you go to grad school, great...but your time is up in the NCAA.

I think the rest of your post is a bunch of baloney because you know IBFC coaches read this...and you're simply trying to score points with Cooper even though you and him have a broken relationship.

Finally, what do you mean "Young talent?" This will be the third year in a row where there are more underclassmen than upperclassmen on the squad. How long does it take to get your stuff together?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 01, 2006, 04:41:07 PM
Jaybird,

In response to both of your posts:

It seems you are the moron, not me. I know how All-Conference picks are chosen.  You seem to be confused about the process though and who knows who in the league.

Cooper has been in the league near 20 years. If he doesn't nominate a player that has stats like he did last year...he could/would get fired. What he can do...is sway coaches away from voting for him.  It happens all the time. If you don't believe that, you're in denial.

How could a player with Sergo's stats not go first-team all-conference last year? Explain that to me.

Also, no, Sergo was not "welcomed back" by Cooper and Benedictine coaches/players. I explained in my other post that his ineligibility has nothing to do with his shortage of credits...his 10 semester running clock is over.

Get facts straight before you post them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 01, 2006, 08:28:47 PM
Pongo,  I have the facts straight and have not gone through 2nd, 3rd, or 4th parties to get my information. 
Sergo most likely will be playing next year.  I would bet the ranch that Sergo will be wearing the Red/White next year.
Furthermore, the same *** goes on in the CCIW and almost every other conference I can think of.  There is always Politics and schemes coming into play.
If you disagree with me, that's o.k. but I did get my facts and information without going through a detour or 3rd party candidate.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 02, 2006, 12:21:33 AM
Jay,

You're very very confused right now.

Sergo is not playing next year for two reasons. One, his 10 semesters is up. Unless the NCAA makes a ridiculous change by then, he can't play. Of course he can, but then BU would have to forfeit their season (not the worst idea).

I haven't gone through 2nd-4th parties either. I told you my sources(coaches) from Wesleyan to back up my 10 semester claim.

Your information is wrong. I hope you really aren't a betting man.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 02, 2006, 12:29:05 AM
In this case I am gonna hafta side with 79.......It is quite evident that Pongo really has no sources and just came back to do what he does and that is to take up space for more useful posts....Same ole' song
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Doctor Swole on September 02, 2006, 11:37:19 AM
Jay and Fatal,

Unfortunately, pretty much everything Pongo said is right. I don't know about Cooper keeping him off of the first team all-conference team (though I have heard buzz around the league that it did happen and he bad-mouthed his WR at the meetings).

I'm not siding with Pongo at all because I think he's a prick, but the information he provided about Sergo is correct.

On another note.....Elmhurst/BU in a few hours....

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 02, 2006, 11:50:33 AM
Doctor Swole,  are you going to the Elmhurst/Benedictine game?
Pongo, I am done discussing this matter with you. I am confident from my sources (which without naming names/positions,  are right at the core of the team)  and know what is going on.  I am not a gambling man, but this one I am pretty confident.  We disagree and that's that.
Good luck to the IBFC in action this weekend and let's remember to keep Coach Walker in our thoughts as we are able to attend good football games this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 02, 2006, 11:56:40 AM
Come on Guys - Pongo thrives on attention, so lets not give it to him or it will be another year of Pongo Boards.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: porky on September 02, 2006, 03:17:48 PM
21-0 at the half Augustana...Has anyone thought something was going to be different besides me? I know that the highlanders will prevail!!!



GO MAC!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on September 02, 2006, 03:38:41 PM
Porky,

Do you know if this game is broadcasted over the Internet?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 02, 2006, 06:24:05 PM
  UP_DATE:  Final score of the Mac  Vs Augustana game.
   
      Got this from the Augustana web site.   
     
          Augustana "thrashed" Mac to the tune of.........53-7.
          You can read the write up  of the game on that site.
           
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 02, 2006, 06:37:18 PM
Jay,

Say what you'd like....but I'd "bet the house" that I know more Benedictine players than you do...that goes for coaches as well...so I know the whole truth.

AUFB,

Year of Pongo sounds hilarious.

As for BU, looks like Cooper didn't reload on offense or defense.

Benedictine loses 34-0. Same old story in Lisle.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 02, 2006, 06:58:58 PM
Pongo-

You know where I go to school.  You know where I am.  You know who I am.  COME TALK TO ME.  That simple.  No more online bashing and bull****.  See you soon pumpkin.

Joseph A. Sergo #30
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 02, 2006, 07:30:33 PM
Joseph A. Sergo #30-

You are the one who started this whole thing. I stated the facts (and even complimented your performance last season)...and you tried to turn everything around (even though it's true).

Don't turn this into a "who da man" thing by telling me where you live, that I know where you go to school, etc.

There was no online "bashing"...if anything, I tried making you look good.

P.S. You're not #30...that number belongs to nobody on Benedictine.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 02, 2006, 08:10:54 PM
Pongo......I love how you claim to know these people and say what you think happened....Yet the man you say this happened to claims different......I'm sorry but I believe Sergo and not you.....Plus you have a history of not knowing what you're talking about......Plus Coop wouldn't do that
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 02, 2006, 11:14:12 PM
No one said anything about being the man.  youre making some serious assumptions and comments about things are not true that are in reference to ME.  All im saying is dont do it online in a football chat room and if you have so much too say about it come talk to me.  thats all. not trying to be a hardass at all.  I just follow a simple rule in life, if your gonna say something about someone, or state a rumor or self-proclaimed fact, just do it to someone's face.  Stop gettin info from 2nd and 3rd parties.  Get it from me.  come to a game at BU. it wont be hard to find me.  Im not gonna fight u over this or even get angry. K pumpkin?  I just wanna meet the person who knows all about me and spends time thinking about me.  Bring a ball or something Ill sign it for u.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on September 02, 2006, 11:25:37 PM
Ya the mac game was embarrassing to watch, the only thing that looked good was the defense. Even though they played the whole game it seemed like. I just love though that number 9 is a captain and gets more unsportsmen like penalties than the IBC combined. What a great captain.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 03, 2006, 12:14:24 AM
Sergo-

Saying "come meet me we'll talk about it" is a "who the man" thing.

Forget that...since you are claiming I am making serious assumptions and untrue comments...answer the question for this board.

Did you or did you not play for Illinois Wesleyan in 2001. It's a yes or no question. If you say yes, then you are ineligible to play...because you were not hurt. If you say no, then why are you on game film AND on the 2001 Illinois Wesleyan roster? All I need you to do is answer that....and nothing else will need to be said on the matter...because all of your "eligibility" questions will be answered (even though they already are).

P.S. Why would I want an autograph from 23 year old Division 3 football player who didn't even make 1st team all-conference? (ex-player)


Fatal-

Read what I just said to him. Also, if you'd like, call Illinois Wesleyan and ask them if he played in '01.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 03, 2006, 12:18:50 AM
For those who think i'm "making things up" still,  go to this link:

http://www.iwu.edu/%7eiwunews/sports/fbroster01.html

Joseph Sergo           WR     5-8    155    Fr.     Park Ridge (Maine South HS)
Robert Shell           LB     5-10   200    Fr.     Lansing (Thornton Fract. South HS)
Daniel Smessaert       WR     5-10   160    Fr.     Indian Head Park (LaGrange Lyons)

The bottom two are the people below him on the roster.

Who's lying now? "Oh Fatpongo you're just tryin to cause trouble." No, read it.



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 03, 2006, 02:00:29 AM
wow 155?   i was really like 135 or 140. the good ole skinny days now im just a fat "explayer".  hmm ok pongo u have it your way.  guess im done...; (


....we'll see next fall ...maybe ill coach.  or maybe ill just say **** it and play
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 03, 2006, 02:52:04 AM
Wow....Appearently Pongo doesn't know what a red shirt is
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 03, 2006, 07:15:06 AM
   UW-Whitewater 75                LC-14   Whoa, is that correct??  Yes it is!!
   
    I guess the phrase,   "who`s your daddy"...........would go good here!
     LC didn`t  get beat they got  massacred.
    Hey Mel Allen, it looks like Whitewater found some of Lakelands
     weaknesses...............you think?    No excuses about the officals,
      weather , the usual stuff, LC got to see first hand why UW_W is ranked
       as high  as they are in D-3. 
    I`ll bet your boys can`t wait to play  CU-Chicago or is it the other way
     around?  ;D
   
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 03, 2006, 08:27:41 AM
  Here`s an interesting fact or two.
    The UW-W score of 75-14 was the highest score of all the games played
  this week in D-3. 
   UW-W broke their own school record for points scored in a game as well.
   I`m not picking on LC but in the past they`ve run up the score on
   some of their opponents so as that old country song goes," how do you 
   like it now" as in being on the receiving end goes?
   
   
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 03, 2006, 11:14:17 AM
Talking about "Who's your daddy" nice W for CUW over Simpson. While CC win was a no-brainer it was good to get another IBC non-conference W.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on September 03, 2006, 01:02:37 PM
The mac Aggie game was really really hard to watch after the first half.  It was only 21 to 0 at half (not great I understand but still better than the final).  For some reason Mac offence could not get started.  They should have really thrown the ball a little more but their QB is a freshman....I wonder if that had anything to do with it.  The Freshman QB didnt look bad though, some of his throws were a little high but he did pretty good.  Mac's Defence looked awsome in the first half but kind of sputtered in the second half because some of the starters kept coming out and when you are on the field that long it is hard to keep flying to the ball like they had been all game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 03, 2006, 01:13:50 PM
Fatal,

Apparently you don't know about the 5 to play 4 (20 semester rule).

You have 5 years (or 20 semesters in a row) to play 4.

If you started in 2001, you would have until the end of the 2005 season.

2001-2005=5 years....understand now?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 03, 2006, 01:26:20 PM
Footballisfun:   Mac had a Freshmen QB?  What happened to their senior QB?   
   Mac must be in dire straights if they had to start a Fr at QB. 
   
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on September 03, 2006, 02:28:40 PM
well from what I have heard, is that he was hit by a drunk driver over the summer and his hip was dislocated and that he will be out until mid october and he probably wont be able to play this year. and the other backup number 7 is having shoulder surgery. and the other qb the sophmore punched his roommate in the head and broke his throwing hand. Again this is what i have heard.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 03, 2006, 03:29:39 PM
Gomer, yes they got massacred, but then Whitewater is NO1 or 2 what ever, We expect to learn from playing high powered teams that is why Lakeland walks thru the IBFC, because they measure themselve against high powered teams, remember non-conference doesn't really matter other than overall record. rarely a deciding factor to worry about in the IBFC. "Z" get these guys ready for the conference.. Mac is smart playing the freshman, the experience is important down the road, I expected the sorce against Auggie, but again, that expereince is vitial to there success in the IBFC. time will tell if I am correct, and Mel Allen is usually always right. ::) :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 03, 2006, 03:54:26 PM
My hat goes off to the first place team in the IBFC CURF great win for the program. Must be nice sitting on top for a change. At the end it will be CUW or Lakeland. CUW posted a great start with their non-conference win. they will be a recking force all year long! bank on it good job to the Concordias. Great start. Lakeland will be back his is not new to them thru the first 3 games. GREAT job to the CUW BIG "D". And to my Lakeland "BELIEVE" you have the greatest coach in the game. You have the talent, just "BELIEVE" Learn from these non-conference games you will be fine, good job BRAD you will be successful, be the leader with HOMER!!!!!!!!!!! PAIN TRAIN I want to see some PAIN against Carthage....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2006, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: Fatpongo on September 03, 2006, 01:13:50 PM
Fatal,

Apparently you don't know about the 5 to play 4 (20 semester rule).

You have 5 years (or 20 semesters in a row) to play 4.

If you started in 2001, you would have until the end of the 2005 season.

2001-2005=5 years....understand now?

In my world there are only 10 semesters in five years. Call me crazy.

You also have to be ENROLLED, full-time, for all of those semesters for them to count against your clock.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on September 03, 2006, 04:29:26 PM
maddogg,

there ain't nothing good can come out of getting 75 points put on you. I'm all for playing above yourself to prepare for the playoffs. Lakeland knows that the IBC is a weak conference. Get wins in conference won't help your confindence in the playoff if you get smoke everytime you play a playoff team.

Lakeland should play someone in the top 15-30 range. Losing by 2 scores to Wheaton or North Central would help your confidence a lot more than losing by 10 scores to Whitewater.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mr_b on September 03, 2006, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2006, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: Fatpongo on September 03, 2006, 01:13:50 PM
Fatal,

Apparently you don't know about the 5 to play 4 (20 semester rule).

You have 5 years (or 20 semesters in a row) to play 4.

If you started in 2001, you would have until the end of the 2005 season.

2001-2005=5 years....understand now?

In my world there are only 10 semesters in five years. Call me crazy.

You also have to be ENROLLED, full-time, for all of those semesters for them to count against your clock.

I'm not positive about the rule, but what if a student enrolls in a school that does not sponsor intercollegiate sports?  I don't think those semesters count toward the 10-semester tally.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 03, 2006, 06:27:50 PM
Yeah, its CUCs first win in 2 seasons.  About time.

Anyhow, the Defense looked great.  It's good to see people actually going to the ball to make the tackle and not backing up from it.  The offense was a little iffy especially in the red zone, they went like 2 for 10 in the red zone.

they get a HUGE test on Saturday when they play University of Chicago.

Either way, finally good to see them win a game to boost up the confidence.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 03, 2006, 06:39:25 PM
 Maddog:
       I know your in pain ;D  and you may well be correct about ....down the road.  Time will tell on that one. :D
       I`ll tell you Mel, you sure can put a "spin" on getting your collective Azz`s kicked on your home field, infront of all those praying fans and saying
you`ll (LC) will be a better team for it.  Ya, right!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D
    By the way, you said, " that`s why they (LC) walks thru the IBFC."
    I`ll give you that one but it`s not because LC is that good it`s only because most of the teams in the IBC are really not that good. No offense to anybody, just stating a fact.
    75-14.....final score.    At least you didn`t blame it on the weather........this time. ;D
     



       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 03, 2006, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: mr_b on September 03, 2006, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2006, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: Fatpongo on September 03, 2006, 01:13:50 PM
Fatal,

Apparently you don't know about the 5 to play 4 (20 semester rule).

You have 5 years (or 20 semesters in a row) to play 4.

If you started in 2001, you would have until the end of the 2005 season.

2001-2005=5 years....understand now?

In my world there are only 10 semesters in five years. Call me crazy.

You also have to be ENROLLED, full-time, for all of those semesters for them to count against your clock.

I'm not positive about the rule, but what if a student enrolls in a school that does not sponsor intercollegiate sports?  I don't think those semesters count toward the 10-semester tally.


Thanx Pat
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ibfcisdead on September 03, 2006, 08:25:49 PM
The score of the CUC - Blackburn game doesn't reflect the dominance that CUC displayed against them.  CUC should have put up 42 but it was  the inexperience on offense in the red zone. This is something that will improve quickly.  The defense was put in tight spots on their side of the field over and over again and forced 5 key turnovers, the only blackburn score came on a 42 yard field goal when they started on the 15 and got pushed back.  Both sides of the ball will improve and this will be a team that can compete in a conference where the top teams can have 75 put on them any given sat. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 03, 2006, 08:49:19 PM
ibfcisdead

Who are you?

If you don't mind me asking
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 03, 2006, 09:04:57 PM
Pat,

You're not crazy, but you know that was a typo by me and that I meant 10 not 20.

The only way you can be eligible as an undergrad is if you are a full-time student...and he was eligible...or else he wouldn't have played on the 2001 team.

Nice try trying to make me look wrong because of a typo I made, but I'm right.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 03, 2006, 09:10:11 PM
So again, with simple addition skills learned in elementary school.

2001=2 semesters
2002=2 semesters
2003=2 semesters
2004=2 semesters
2005=2 semesters

What does that add? Is that 10? Yes it is.

Is this 2006? Yes, it is.

Does that help?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 03, 2006, 09:15:28 PM
fatp,

I know none of you (and have no 'dog in this fight'), but you seem to be overlooking an obvious possibility.  Perhaps he didn't directly transfer from IWU, but dropped out for one or more semesters before re-enrolling elsewhere?

As Pat has pointed out before, the 10 semester rule can be spread out indefinitely over time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2006, 09:39:20 PM
Or perhaps he wasn't enrolled full time every spring? You haven't proven your case yet.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ILikeDiv3 on September 03, 2006, 10:10:43 PM
To the kid who is fatpongo:  Didn't Joe Sergo say earlier he dropped out of IWU and took 1.5 years off?  Also, you might want to consult the bylaws of the NCAA Div III.  The five year rule does not apply to Division III.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 03, 2006, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2006, 09:39:20 PM
Or perhaps he wasn't enrolled full time every spring? You haven't proven your case yet.

THANKS PAT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 03, 2006, 11:32:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 03, 2006, 09:15:28 PM
fatp,

I know none of you (and have no 'dog in this fight'), but you seem to be overlooking an obvious possibility.  Perhaps he didn't directly transfer from IWU, but dropped out for one or more semesters before re-enrolling elsewhere?

As Pat has pointed out before, the 10 semester rule can be spread out indefinitely over time.

THANKS MR. YPSI
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 01:39:38 AM
Pat, I know division 3 sports are your life and passion, but you're wrong on this one.

Your'e missing the whole point here. SERGO HAS ALREADY PLAYED FOUR YEARS! I don't even know why we're talking about the 5 year rule anymore.

He played 1 year at Illinois Wesleyan and 3 years at Benedictine. He did NOT redshirt. He played ALL FOUR YEARS.

What am I not explaining here? Did I miss something? Are people allowed to play 5 seasons now?

2001-IWU
2003-BU
2004-BU
2005-BU

Again, that's 4 years. Why would he be allowed to play a 5th year? This is like talking to 1st graders, but worse. His eligibility is over.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2006, 10:51:37 AM
 Lovethegame:
       Thanks for the " i heard" stuff on the QB situation at Mac.   
           
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 04, 2006, 11:50:46 AM
FatP......I'm think he red shirted..........and I'm gonna side with Pat on this one
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 01:03:02 PM
I really don't care who you side with.

He appeared in games each year, therefore counting as a year of eligibility each year. I don't need to explain it anymore...and if you don't understand it...well then it's time to re-take 1st grade.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 04, 2006, 02:23:36 PM
If you red-shirt, even if you already played one game.......I think the rule is three.......If you red-shirt the year DOES NOT COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2006, 02:34:15 PM
Quote from: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 01:39:38 AM
Pat, I know division 3 sports are your life and passion, but you're wrong on this one.

Actually, I'm right -- you realize we are talking about separate things?

Quote from: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 01:39:38 AM
Your'e missing the whole point here. SERGO HAS ALREADY PLAYED FOUR YEARS! I don't even know why we're talking about the 5 year rule anymore.

Have I ever said Sergo was eligible? I don't know how long he's played and I don't care. I'm only pointing out that you are wrong on the 20- wait, sorry, 10-semester rule and you are wrong on the five-year rule as well.

You can argue what you want about Sergo but you shouldn't be spewing inaccurate information about the rules.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2006, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 01:39:38 AM

This is like talking to 1st graders, but worse. His eligibility is over.


Why, do first graders also twist around what people are talking about and intentionally distort or misread their posts?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 03:48:56 PM
Pat,

You jumped into the conversation when I made a typo....where I typed a 2 instead of a 1. Shall we assume you've never made a typo before?

If you never said Sergo was eligible...you shouldn't have gotten into the conversation. I know you like to put your 2 cents in...but this wasn't the time.

And since you're the know-all of Division 3 sports...and I'm wrong on the five-year rule...what is this?:

14.2.1 Five-Year Rule - A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution, with time spent in the armed services, on official church missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government being excepted. For foreign students, service in the armed forces or on an official church mission of the student's home country is considered equivalent to such service in the United States.

Taken from the NCAA eligibility rules. It's National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), not the Pat Coleman Athletic Association (PCAA).

So again, you're wrong, not me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on September 04, 2006, 04:36:50 PM
I know that is the rule for DI and I-AA.  I think DII and DIII are different.  Speeking from my own experience I started attending a Juco right after graduating from HS.  I went for 1 semester.  Then I took 2 1/2 years off.  Went back to Juco to play FB, played for 1 year then looked to transfer.  I was told by the AD/Head Coach that I could only look to transfer to DII or DIII schools because my eligability for DI and I-AA was going expire in a year, because I had started 3 years prior.  Having coached DIII, I know that if you have not participated in at least 1/2 of the season you can be medically red-shrited upon a season ending injury.  Was Sergo hurt at IWU?  Anyone know?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 04:47:57 PM
Da one,

No, he was not hurt at IWU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ILikeDiv3 on September 04, 2006, 04:55:30 PM
Thank you Da One.  To add to the conversation, Fatpongo you are reading from the wrong document.  The Five Year Rule DOES NOT APPLY TO DIVISION III.  The following is from the DIVISION III MANUAL....rule 14.2.1 is this:

Collegiate Enrollment Concurrent with Service Assignment.  Any time in which a student athelete is enrolled for a minimum full-time program of studies as a regular student in a collegiate institution while simultaneously on active duty in the United States government shall count against the 10 semesters/15 quarters in which the four seasons of eligibility must be completed.

Another simple google search reveals this:

http://www.sdmesa.sdccd.cc.ca.us/maap/eligibility.html

There have been different occasions where a Division I guy drops out a few years and comes back to school around age 28 even, to play at the Division III level.  I've seen it firsthand son.

I hate to respond and give this kid more attention,  but Fatpongo historically and consistently has his information wrong, and spreads FALSE information which is just not cool. 

Bottom line is, and I don't know what the time frame or situation was for Joe Sergo playing at IWU, I seriously doubt Benedictine would let him play this year or next year if he wasn't eligible.  I believe most schools at this level understand and abide by rules.  So I really don't think you are uncovering a big scandal.

Are you sure you have ALL the facts on Sergo's IWU experience?

Regards

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: ILikeDiv3 on September 04, 2006, 04:55:30 PM
Thank you Da One.  To add to the conversation, Fatpongo you are reading from the wrong document.  The Five Year Rule DOES NOT APPLY TO DIVISION III.  The following is from the DIVISION III MANUAL....rule 14.2.1 is this:

Collegiate Enrollment Concurrent with Service Assignment.  Any time in which a student athelete is enrolled for a minimum full-time program of studies as a regular student in a collegiate institution while simultaneously on active duty in the United States government shall count against the 10 semesters/15 quarters in which the four seasons of eligibility must be completed.

Another simple google search reveals this:

http://www.sdmesa.sdccd.cc.ca.us/maap/eligibility.html

There have been different occasions where a Division I guy drops out a few years and comes back to school around age 28 even, to play at the Division III level.  I've seen it firsthand son.

I hate to respond and give this kid more attention,  but Fatpongo historically and consistently has his information wrong, and spreads FALSE information which is just not cool. 

Bottom line is, and I don't know what the time frame or situation was for Joe Sergo playing at IWU, I seriously doubt Benedictine would let him play this year or next year if he wasn't eligible.  I believe most schools at this level understand and abide by rules.  So I really don't think you are uncovering a big scandal.

Are you sure you have ALL the facts on Sergo's IWU experience?

Regards



First of all, Sergo, we know that it is you under a different name.

And thanks for finding that article....the 10 semester rule applies for division three...which Pat Coleman said I was "wrong on." Your proof is in that article.

Also, this whole discussion isn't based on D1 to D3. It's based on D3 to D3.

My information is not wrong. And you do know Sergo's situation at IWU...because you're him. It's not a scandal either...it's just somebody trying to cheat the system...hence why you(Sergo) did not play football this year...because teams didn't want to take the chance.

And yes Sergo, we're sure of the facts of your IWU experience...unless the IWU coaching staff and players are lying...and if game film with you on it is lying.

If it's untrue...you tell us what happened...and explain the game film.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2006, 05:50:53 PM
The five year clock is only in Division I. In Division I, once you start you have five years (or whatever) to finish. I don't know or care about the Division I rules.

There are 10 full-time semesters in Division III to play your four eligible years, and you can take the semesters more or less whenever you want. That is different, oddly enough, than Division I.

If you can't read the rule book, please don't blame me. You don't know what you're talking about and you keep spinning, bobbing and weaving, and blaming other people. I'm sick of it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2006, 06:00:36 PM
14.2.2 Ten Semester/Fifteen-Quarter Rule
A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation during the first 10 semesters or 15 quarters in which the student is enrolled in a collegiate institution in at least a minimum full-time program of studies, as determined by the regulations of that institution. For an institution that conducts registration other than on a traditional semester or quarter basis, the Management Council shall determine an equivalent enrollment period.  (Revised: 1/12/04 effective 8/1/04 for any athletics participation occurring on or after August 1, 2004)

When you search the NCAA database, it helps to select "Division III" instead of "Division I."

Please don't bother us with this anymore.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 04, 2006, 06:02:56 PM
Pongo,
Yo are wrong., how do you know thats him......Are you psychic?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 04, 2006, 06:11:07 PM
wow...listen pongo just drop it man.  it has nothing to do with u. like u said.  Im done right?  so be happy with your statement and like i said maybe ill be on the field next yr maybe i wont.  Its really none of your business what i do with my life.  you are being what we like to call a "HATER".  just worry about u, make insightful comments about teams and people and be compassionate and not so critical.  

If you have a PROBLEM with this then come on over to BU and see me, you know where im at and you know where u can find me.  im not trying to be a hardass or even confrontational.  we can settle this in a matter of 5 minutes discussing it at the next BU game on sat at home and then you wont  have to spend any more time thinking of ME, which obv u do alot.  you dont have all your facts straight and obv there is someone who knows the situation alot better than you...ME.  or u can jsut drop it, worry about PONGO and let it be.  no need to be so angry inside.  i used to have those problems but i work out now and it helps.  you can also try finger painting, maybe yoga, or Cage fighting.  You can jump in with napoleon's brother Kip.  and if that doesnt help ill jsut give u a big ole hug,  I know they work for me.  come on down to BU ill get some people together and we can all hug for like 10minutes straight.  k?

and i dont need to go under a different name to post on here.  i dont have time for that i was enjoying my weekend and having a holiday.   not on D3 trying to embarrass or attack a D3football player from Bu for no reason.  

no matter what i gots love for u playa!!!  go bears next sunday


I would appreciate no more posts about the situation,  its hard enough watching my team out there without me and i just wanna focus on school and other personal issues.  thank u pongo.

Joey
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 07:28:40 PM
Pat,

The kick is up....and it's no good. Nice try. I'm back.

You've changed the argument from Sergo's eligibility into D3 eligibility. My point from the beginning was that he played 4 years. He was in school for 10 semesters...and played his 4 years...therefore his eligibility is over. I don't care about people who take semesters off...because he didn't do that.

That IS in the rule book. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Don't change the argument around to try to make yourself look good...because I was talking about SERGO'S eligibility, not John Doe's.

14.2.2...post is as many times as you want. Sergo is not eligibile...that's the only point I've tried to prove on here, and I was successful. It's all in the rule book.

Sergo,

Give it up.

The only way you'll be on the field next year in Division 3 is if it's as a coach. If it's as a player, your team will forfeit the season.

I'm not a hater at all. If you look back, I was the one who said you should've been on the first-team all-conference team. You then disagreed with me about something else, so it's your fault it turned into this.

And again, easy with the "meeting" thing. I have no need to "meet" you.

Go on with your life. You're 23. You weren't drafted. Football is over.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 04, 2006, 07:48:17 PM
Pongo-

Can we at least hang out and get a root beer float?  come on.  you talk so much about me u should at least meet me and see the real thing.  I promise I wont bite sugar unless u want me to.... ;)

I bet ur a big stud, i mean cmon, to go on D3 football and talk dust to someone is about the bravest thing u can do.

Now ive been nice to you.  Ive been adult. And ive been more than open to appease whatever questions you have about me.  I am going to ask you one more time.  Drop it.  dont use my name or anything referring to me in your posts.  DROP IT.  This is over.

I dont wanna see anymore posts about me or anything having to do with me and this situation on this site from you.  That is it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 04, 2006, 07:49:02 PM
Pongo,
How do you know he was in school all that time, do have his transcript, were you there if you have "game film" that only you've seen.......that does not provide proof to us.  The only person that can supply that is him....It's obvious you're wrong....Just admit it....And if he does play next year, his team will not forfiet......PONGO YOU ARE WRONG
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 04, 2006, 07:49:28 PM
Hey, let's just drop it about Sergo.

If he can't play anymore, great, if he still has one more year, sweet.  Either way who gives a crap, let's talk about the league and not just one person.

If you post, let's post about a game that happened or is going to happen or about a certain team and keep this eligibility talk off the board.  Only like 2 people really care if Sergo is eligible or not so quit taking up the board on it.......

Now with that said who wants to start a new discussion?

Maybe predictions for this weekend?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2006, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 07:28:40 PM
Pat,

The kick is up....and it's no good. Nice try. I'm back.

Dude, I'm like a major league pitcher. I'm giving you my best move on the first pickoff attempt. Making you feel good if you get back in safely, because the on second move you are dead.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on September 04, 2006, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2006, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: Fatpongo on September 04, 2006, 07:28:40 PM
Pat,

The kick is up....and it's no good. Nice try. I'm back.

Dude, I'm like a major league pitcher. I'm giving you my best move on the first pickoff attempt. Making you feel good if you get back in safely, because the on second move you are dead.

The second kick was good!!  (And deservedly so!)   :D :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 04, 2006, 07:59:50 PM
Quote from: Fatpongo on August 30, 2006, 10:50:50 PM

I don't know if this is true...but rumor has it that Jon Cooper is to blame for Sergo not coming back for his final year of eligibility.  Cooper singlehandedly kept Sergo off of the All-Conference 1st team from what I heard from certain coaches and "league" sources.






Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 04, 2006, 08:00:17 PM
Liar
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 04, 2006, 08:01:30 PM
baseman thank i agree completely.  That sergo kid sucks anyway! :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 04, 2006, 08:03:46 PM
So ANYWAYS...........Maddog........What is going to happen with your conference Players of the week?.......I know at Aurora they have a superb tight end in Aaron Harmon who had 5 catches for 59 yards.......thats nearly 12 yards a grab.............Any other nominations out there?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 04, 2006, 08:13:28 PM
Dr. Swole/Pongo read the post above you fool, i tried to change the subject your the one that drags it on..........Sergo is prolly gonna play next year and I will do nothing but laugh at you....................................
Any nominations for players of the week? Above I listed mine

Quote from: FatalImpact on September 04, 2006, 08:03:46 PM
So ANYWAYS...........Maddog........What is going to happen with your conference Players of the week?.......I know at Aurora they have a superb tight end in Aaron Harmon who had 5 catches for 59 yards.......thats nearly 12 yards a grab.............Any other nominations out there?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 04, 2006, 08:14:34 PM
Im not good enough to play for the bears cmon now.  also, i see you are a NCC fan.  or player.  well ill be at the game.  come say hi.  I dont know about 58-0 but NCC is goood this yr.  

and u spell it "SWOLL".  trust me i know all about it :D  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 04, 2006, 08:49:52 PM
Geez,  when did this chatboard become a divorce court?  Pongo, if you profession is not a Lawyer, I would advise you to go take the BAR.  Why is it so hard for you to drop this when the others have proven you to be wrong.  It takes a big man to admit he is wrong.  I make mistakes everyday and sometimes every hour, but I admit when I am wrong, why can't you? ???

As for the Elmhurst/Benedictine game.  As I posted on the CCIW board, I was impressed with the tenacity, courage, and "fight" in the Eagles.  Yes, on paper they were overmatched, but they came out fighting hard.  I think Coach Cooper has them pointed in the right direction and are 3-4 years away from putting together a solid team.  I was very impressed with their interior defense.  Elmhurst did not gain most of their yardage up the A gaps.

My thoughts on the UWW/Lakeland game.  75 points?  I don't care what level you are playing, 75 points is running up the score and bush league  >:(.  IMO, I don't go for that.  It's one thing to beat a team, but it is another (mean) thing to just run up the score to pad your stats.  I have been on teams that lost big and it is NOT a very good feeling.

Hey congrats to Coach Pruess and the Concordia Cougars for getting the W!!!  Hopefully this is a start of the "rebirth" of CUC.    The Cougars break their losing streak, now we will see if North Park can break their long CCIW conf. losing streak, which I believe is 5 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 04, 2006, 10:06:34 PM
It's "Pries" by the way, but oh well.

Yeah, hopefully he starts something good over there.  Will find out Saturday though when they play University of Chicago, who I guess is chosen to win the UAA.

Anyhow, it's a nice away game (20 minutes away).  It was nice playing Elmhurst too since it was pretty much up the street.

Anyway, good luck to everyone, what are the predictions for this weekend?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 04, 2006, 10:37:13 PM
justin lewis throws for around 175 and 4 tds.....gillespie runs for 160 + on 28 attempts 20 coming in the first half....collier grabs 3 tds...hutchins makes a big time deflection in the end zone and intercepts a pass that leads to a TD...CUW's punter "the system" averages 44 yards a punt
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 05, 2006, 12:36:07 AM
YES!  We finally got that monkey off our back and got a win, my first W here at CUC.  As a post said earlier, it wasn't really a pretty win, as we struggled in our red zone, but we got the win and I will take that any day.  But anyways, just wanted to let you guys know that my name is right...

Cougs Will Win!!  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on September 05, 2006, 12:37:05 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 03, 2006, 01:26:20 PM
Footballisfun:   Mac had a Freshmen QB?  What happened to their senior QB?   
   Mac must be in dire straights if they had to start a Fr at QB. 
   
   
     

Their senior got hurt in the off season in a car crash
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 05, 2006, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: Chili dog on September 04, 2006, 08:01:30 PM
baseman thank i agree completely.  That sergo kid sucks anyway! :)


damn right that sergo kid really sucks ;D   Sergo, you've been through too mcuh to stoop to Pong or FatPongo, whoever he is, level.  Just because someone spew chapters and title from rule books doesn't mean that they "correctly" interpret them for facts.  image is everything in this world so don't ever compromise your dignity!!!  I'm disappointed that you even felt compelled to respond to such ignorance....

FYI, to all posters/members of this website, let's try to stay on the topic of football teams not personally attack these kids.  our time has passed us by, let's not distract them from their careers/experiences......

As for you Pongo, you made a fool of yourself.  apparently you're that kid that stood in the back of the "team breakdown" feeling sorry for yourself and blaming everybody else for things you lacked, instead you should've strapped up and got to work.  you're more concerned about other people situation instead of handling your own.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 12:58:12 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2006, 05:50:53 PM
The five year clock is only in Division I. In Division I, once you start you have five years (or whatever) to finish. I don't know or care about the Division I rules.

There are 10 full-time semesters in Division III to play your four eligible years, and you can take the semesters more or less whenever you want. That is different, oddly enough, than Division I.

If you can't read the rule book, please don't blame me. You don't know what you're talking about and you keep spinning, bobbing and weaving, and blaming other people. I'm sick of it.

Not to re-hash this LONG thread again... but back in the early 90's, Elmhurst had a fullback who was 44 years old!  He didn't play in the game, but it was quite a shock to shake hands after the game with a player in their 40's.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 05, 2006, 01:45:34 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 12:58:12 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2006, 05:50:53 PM
The five year clock is only in Division I. In Division I, once you start you have five years (or whatever) to finish. I don't know or care about the Division I rules.

There are 10 full-time semesters in Division III to play your four eligible years, and you can take the semesters more or less whenever you want. That is different, oddly enough, than Division I.

If you can't read the rule book, please don't blame me. You don't know what you're talking about and you keep spinning, bobbing and weaving, and blaming other people. I'm sick of it.

Not to re-hash this LONG thread again... but back in the early 90's, Elmhurst had a fullback who was 44 years old!  He didn't play in the game, but it was quite a shock to shake hands after the game with a player in their 40's.


where did you ball ? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 01:53:02 PM
Quote from: BluPhi35 on September 05, 2006, 01:45:34 PM
where did you ball ? 

Wheaton College: 85-88 as a player, 89-94 as a coach
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 05, 2006, 02:04:09 PM
let's try this again. :(   i keep losing messages that i'm trying to post. 

i didn't play in your era but i'm definitely right there.  i recall having some teammates who were in their late or mid 30"s and returning to play.  The only thing i thought at that time was thank God they were on my team.  I could care less about how many semesters they had to take just to play.  i was more concerned on the things i had to clean up to assure myself playing time on saturday or better yet making the "travel" team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 05, 2006, 03:09:28 PM
amen....I feel like im forty and definitely look it
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 05, 2006, 03:11:46 PM
Quote from: Chili dog on September 05, 2006, 03:09:28 PM
amen....I feel like im forty and definitely look it

did you read my post? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 05, 2006, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: BluPhi35 on September 05, 2006, 03:11:46 PM
Quote from: Chili dog on September 05, 2006, 03:09:28 PM
amen....I feel like im forty and definitely look it

did you read my post? 

when did you play?  what do you mean you feel 40?  what's wrong with that number?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on September 05, 2006, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 01:53:02 PM
Quote from: BluPhi35 on September 05, 2006, 01:45:34 PM
where did you ball ? 

Wheaton College: 85-88 as a player, 89-94 as a coach
Dang, you're old!  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on September 05, 2006, 03:39:46 PM
Dang, you're old!  ;D

ARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!  Can't sneak this past CardinalAlum on any board. ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on September 05, 2006, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on September 05, 2006, 03:39:46 PM
Dang, you're old!  ;D

ARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!  Can't sneak this past CardinalAlum on any board. ;D

You can run, but you can't hide!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: diehardfan on September 05, 2006, 04:41:02 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on September 05, 2006, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on September 05, 2006, 03:39:46 PM
Dang, you're old!  ;D
ARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!  Can't sneak this past CardinalAlum on any board. ;D
You can run, but you can't hide!
:D Karma to both of you for making me laugh.  :)

Incidentally, Mugsy, I think that means that you were a freshman in high school the year I was born. :P ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 05:25:47 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on September 05, 2006, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on September 05, 2006, 03:39:46 PM
Dang, you're old!  ;D

ARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!  Can't sneak this past CardinalAlum on any board. ;D

You can run, but you can't hide!

Well I certainly can't run like I use too... jog is about the extent of it. :(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 05, 2006, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: diehardfan on September 05, 2006, 04:41:02 PM
:D Karma to both of you for making me laugh.  :)

Incidentally, Mugsy, I think that means that you were a freshman in high school the year I was born. :P ;)

In one word... OUCH! ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 05, 2006, 06:04:35 PM
sorry bluphi and yes i read your post.  I jsut turned 23 and i dont care how old I am I love football and would even play if i was 50.  Its been 15 yrs of ball and its really starting to show some ware and tear on my body.  as Im sure everyone who evea played ball that long would feel.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 06, 2006, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: Chili dog on September 05, 2006, 06:04:35 PM
sorry bluphi and yes i read your post.  I jsut turned 23 and i dont care how old I am I love football and would even play if i was 50.  Its been 15 yrs of ball and its really starting to show some ware and tear on my body.  as Im sure everyone who evea played ball that long would feel.

chilidog

you're just turning 23 and complaining about wear and tear.  wait until you get my age!  i'm not quite 40yrs old but i'm close enough and my whole body is off aligned.  i'm still ballin' but it's on another level (instructional). 

i remember when you first started returning punts.  you were a little jittery but you got better on kickoff returns.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 06, 2006, 12:14:49 PM
what are the predictions for this week?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on September 06, 2006, 01:14:04 PM
Coe over Aurora
Benedictine over North Park (Not sure about this one dont know that much about North Part)
CU-Chicago over Chicago University (I think this will be a good game)
CUW over North Central
Greenville over Blackburn (duh)
Lakeland over Carthage (Another good game)
MacMurray over Rockford

These predictions are with me not knowing very much about the out of conf. teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 06, 2006, 01:52:57 PM
Quote from: footballisfun on September 06, 2006, 01:14:04 PM
Coe over Aurora
Benedictine over North Park (Not sure about this one dont know that much about North Part)
CU-Chicago over Chicago University (I think this will be a good game)
CUW over North Central
Greenville over Blackburn (duh)
Lakeland over Carthage (Another good game)
MacMurray over Rockford

These predictions are with me not knowing very much about the out of conf. teams.

this is going to be a very exciting weekend of football.  four of the five teams are evenly matched with talent.  it's no doubt that these games are all going to come down to SPECIAL TEAMS!!!!!!!!  HERE'S MY ALL-STAR PICKS: North Park over Ben (NEW system, new STAFF, new BELIEFS) slug match of the week
Greenville tops Blackburn by 3
Concordia drops to Univ of Chgo in final minutes( 3-3-5 def holds on)
CUW spanks NCC (scoreboard won't show it)
Lakeland falls to Carthage (two highly aggressive teams, alot of Unsportsman penalties but the team that establish self-control will prevail)

MacMurray and Rockford (this is the only game that i think will get out of control score wise but i give the nod to Rockford) ;D

there you have, hysteria all in a nutshell.   i'll be doing alot of driving this weekend....[/left] 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 06, 2006, 02:21:50 PM
Some thoughts on the Carthage/Lakeland game:

1. Lakeland lost 75-14 last week to Whitewater and immediately Gomer Pyle was all over it. Lest we forget, Lakeland lost by the same amount (61 points) to Whitewater last year and still won the conference.

2. From what I saw during that game, Lakeland played better than they did last year, though the scoreboard didn't show it. The defense is faster (believe it or not and seriously have two great linebackers in Wagner and Sims) and they held All-American Justin Beaver to 52 yards on 11 carries, but Derek Stanley could very well be an NFL prospect, and there aren't many people in Division III able to cover this guy this year. No matter where the ball was thrown (which was almost always on target since Jacobs is very good as well), he seemed to come down with it. Stanley, coupled with three very costly mistakes by Lakeland in the first half kept this game from being a lot closer than it was. The Muskies drove the ball into the red zone on their opening drive to get turned away on a penalty that knocked them out of field goal range.

3. From what I've heard, Carthage lost a good number of guys, especially on a defense that is nothing like it was two years ago.

Prediction: Lakeland's receiving corps may be deeper than originally thought. Isiah Calhoun could see more snaps this week after making two tremendous catches in the Whitewater game. The Muskie receivers repeatedly burned Carthage's defenders last year, but Maiuri had trouble getting them the ball. Lakeland's O-line should hold up against the Carthage defenders this year, thus giving Brad Wilk enough time to get those receivers the ball. If this happens, Lakeland should win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 06, 2006, 03:07:10 PM
first off, i feell what you're saying about last week but that contributes to the over aggression for this game.  Both teams are going to come out trying to prove toughness and ultimately opening weaknesses. 

second,  nfl prospects or not it's not going to the athleticism that "wins" it's the "wits".   these guys are going to battle mentally before the ball is even kicked.  i would like to think that they guys you spoke of are veterans and are able to get there younger teammates focused.  i've seen both teams in my time on both good and bad experiences but i've always sought out the wise players.  both teams can ball and both have been known to be boastful.  with that being said,  which team is going to show maturity and weather the storm?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 06, 2006, 03:22:35 PM
   Who gets the "W" for games on Sept 9th?
   
    Aurora
    BU
    Chicago U
    Greenville
    Lakeland. even though they lost last year to the Redmen....
    Rockford
    Con, W.

   Big_Uns:   Was just stating the facts. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on September 06, 2006, 03:34:20 PM
It will be a good weekend of football.  And it will all be topped off Sunday at 3:15 when the chicago bears get even more redemption on brett favre's tormenting us for the past decade+ as our defense causes 2 interceptions and 4 sacks.  One in which brett favre gets up from only to be concussed enough to see DITKA's face in the heavens laughing down on him with walter in the background doing the superbowl shuffle. 

Bears 247
Packers -5

As far as games of the weekend NCC and CONC will be a great game and both defenses are going to have a day. 

NCC- 17
Conc W.- 28
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 06, 2006, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on September 06, 2006, 02:21:50 PM
Some thoughts on the Carthage/Lakeland game:

1. Lakeland lost 75-14 last week to Whitewater and immediately Gomer Pyle was all over it. Lest we forget, Lakeland lost by the same amount (61 points) to Whitewater last year and still won the conference.

2. From what I saw during that game, Lakeland played better than they did last year, though the scoreboard didn't show it. The defense is faster (believe it or not and seriously have two great linebackers in Wagner and Sims) and they held All-American Justin Beaver to 52 yards on 11 carries, but Derek Stanley could very well be an NFL prospect, and there aren't many people in Division III able to cover this guy this year. No matter where the ball was thrown (which was almost always on target since Jacobs is very good as well), he seemed to come down with it. Stanley, coupled with three very costly mistakes by Lakeland in the first half kept this game from being a lot closer than it was. The Muskies drove the ball into the red zone on their opening drive to get turned away on a penalty that knocked them out of field goal range.

How can you possibly rationalize "things were not as bad as they looked" for a 61 point loss?

1. True enough... Lakeland "held" Beaver to 52 yards on 11 carries, but he probably only played a half and UW-Whitewater didn't need him anymore than that.  If he played an entire game, chances are he would have had more.

2. The Muskies took the opening drive down into the redzone, but came away with nothing due to penalties... yeah... but they couldn't capitalize due to penalities.  Nice drive + penalites = 0 points.  Close = 0 points.

3. You can't say "take away 3 costly mistakes and the game would have been closer"...  Every losing team could then point to x number of plays and say "if we did things better or different" we would have won or it would have been close.  How does the saying go?  If if's and but's were horseshoes and hand grenades... or Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades...  61pts is NOT close.

Lakeland may have played better this year against UW-Whitewater and they may still win conference this year, but you can't rationalize a 61pt defeat into something less than a complete blowout - IMO.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 06, 2006, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: Chili dog on September 06, 2006, 03:34:20 PM
It will be a good weekend of football.  And it will all be topped off Sunday at 3:15 when the chicago bears get even more redemption on brett favre's tormenting us for the past decade+ as our defense causes 2 interceptions and 4 sacks.  One in which brett favre gets up from only to be concussed enough to see DITKA's face in the heavens laughing down on him with walter in the background doing the superbowl shuffle. 

Bears 247
Packers -5

As far as games of the weekend NCC and CONC will be a great game and both defenses are going to have a day. 

NCC- 17
Conc W.- 28

chili dog

i born to disagree with you regarding the Green Bay game and i'm not a Cheese Head.  i will agree with you on the NCC game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 06, 2006, 04:16:45 PM
IMO, I don't think the games are going to be ask close as many might think.  Here are my predicts:

North Central 28  Concordia WI  10
Carthage 13 Lakeland 10
Coe  24   Aurora 13
Chicago 21  Concordia IL  17
North Park 28  Benedictine 7
Greenville 35  Blackburn 7
Rockford 21  Macmurray 10
I don't see how many of you can pick against North Central at home, considering they almost knocked off Capital and had such a great team last year?  I know they lost a lot of guys, but still it is tough to pick against the Cards in this one.


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 06, 2006, 07:26:02 PM
Footballisfun-

Wow, you were the only one to pick CU Chicago over University of Chicago, where is the love from everyone else??

Ah well, should be a good weekend of games.

And let's just say Lakeland gets those 3 "costly" mistakes back, the score is what, 54-14 now?  Still a blowout in my book.  And I should know, last year we (CURF/CUC) got blown out just about every game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on September 06, 2006, 10:12:04 PM
LOL sorry I really did mean CUC over Chi.

What I want to know is why everyone thinks aroura will win and mac will lose.

I had a chance to watch the Aroura Rockford game and I must say I wasnt impressed.  Rockford played hard and their front 8 are very strong but nothing special and I had to insult one of the teams in this conf. but Aroura looked they had a lot of work to do on O but hey what do I know I dont play any more and I cant judge these teams by watching one game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on September 06, 2006, 10:12:26 PM
I would also say though that I dont know that much about COE are they any good?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 06, 2006, 10:47:12 PM
Quote from: footballisfun on September 06, 2006, 10:12:26 PM
I would also say though that I dont know that much about COE are they any good?


Coe is a pretty tough team.  They made the playoffs last year (and several other years as well).  They are definitely a top tier D3 program.

They did just lose their starting quarterback for the entire season though... it'll be interesting to see how that affects them.  They did beat Illinois Wesleyan last weekend 34-21 and IWU is a middle tier team in the CCIW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 06, 2006, 11:27:38 PM
Mugsy,

"...IWU is a middle-tier team in the CCIW."

I'm as green as they come, but I figure IWU is fighting with NPU to stay out of the basement.

They ONCE were perennial contenders, but 'lo, how the mighty have fallen'. :(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 07, 2006, 09:15:48 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 06, 2006, 11:27:38 PM
Mugsy,

"...IWU is a middle-tier team in the CCIW."

I'm as green as they come, but I figure IWU is fighting with NPU to stay out of the basement.

They ONCE were perennial contenders, but 'lo, how the mighty have fallen'. :(

While IWU has struggled recently, I still don't lump them in with the likes of North Park.  IWU did beat Wheaton last year, which North Park hasn't done in 25+ years and IWU does have 3 CCIW championships since 1996.  If they struggle this year, then I might start talking about them in the bottom tier of the CCIW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on September 07, 2006, 09:24:48 AM
I coached in the IIAC against Coe the last four years.  They are a very good team.  They have a RB/WR name Neil Suckow (Sue-cow) who is a stud.  They run a spread no-huddle offense and a very aggressive blitzing defense.  They return a ton of starts from a 9-1 team.  The loss of their QB is big.  The head coach is a Mt. Union guy and has done a fantastic job of recruiting, so I know there is another QB ready to step in.  The youthful Spartans will have their hands full.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 07, 2006, 11:09:40 AM
7400west-

So you know who I am?  I really don't know about that, not a player this year, but played the past 2 years as a WR, that should help.

Anyhow, I agree with just about everything you said about CUC except for the roster size, online I counted and it's at about 65 or so right now, which has been WAY better then the past few years. 

The D was definately the strong point I agree, the past few years I have seen backers backing away from the ball and CBs and Safetys getting burned all day (we did it in practice as well), but I didn't see that on Saturday, I think Bishop to D End and Moses to Safety were some great moves by Pries.  He seems to know where guys need to play unlike the coaching staff from last year.  And yeah, the coaches were pretty distant from the players the past few years, we never did any coach player bonding or anything like that.

Anyway, I am hoping for a win on Saturday to prove they have what it takes to beat a decent team, but it will be tough.  And it's John "Kress" by the way, not "Kreas", but I will give it to you, the "a" and "s" keys are in close proximity to eachother.

so 7400, are you a parent, coach or what?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 07, 2006, 11:10:07 AM
guys

Bring in a new Staff and a new Foundations follows.  Regardless of the conference and where teams placed a year ago it's damn near impossible for a team(program) to carry the same face as a year ago.  The only way that's possible is if they return 11 starters on both sides of the ball.  Let's face it, it's never about the scheme it's about the players and how the coaching staff motivate them to execute.

these games will be close specifically for the reasons i've stated above.  it's nothing personal to those teams i chose to finish second but i trully believe that it comes to a maturity issue.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 07, 2006, 12:09:12 PM
oh yeah, and Yerkes to O-Line that was a good move too!!!!

And ok 7400 nevermind, I just clicked on your name....NOW I KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 07, 2006, 12:41:03 PM
this is in response to the people who have a lot to say about CUC. one, the coaching staff is absolutely amazing compared to the past staff. Don't get me wrong, some of the guys on the old coaching staff were great guys, just not that great at coaching. Conwell was a great guy, but it was a rough road for him along the way and recruiting didn't go very well.

Coach Preis has turned the program around already within a matter of months. I realized someone commented on the spread offense the cougs now run and compared it to the offense they ran when Hynes was head coach. In my view, the 2003 offense comes no where close to what the cougs run now. THEY MOVE THE BALL!!! The coaches now are young and are more with the game, they know what it takes to win and they will win a lot more games (including this weekend). The cougs defense is dominating the field and a lot of the guys have never even played the positions they are playing!!! Once this offense gets scoring, their opponents better watch out because the COUGS WILL BE A THREAT whether anyone likes it or not!!!

LET'S GO COUGS!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 07, 2006, 12:46:05 PM
Baseman:

I know who you are # 16, I am not hidding who I am, I really don't think this is that big a deal, I am having fun, this is a fun site for entertainment reasons! Also, you were correct about the numbers on the roster, about 65ish, but I know of at least 3 that have quit since the season started. And spelling is a minor detail, what is improtent is the facts!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 07, 2006, 12:52:58 PM
oh yeah!!!!! That's a great offense to run and you're put up some big numbers.  the only thing is it takes alot of time to install, especially if you're starting from scratch.  give it a couple of years. 

i got faith in CUC.  they had a decent team last year but you could tell there was no connection non whatsoever. 




Quote from: monsterT01 on September 07, 2006, 12:41:03 PM
this is in response to the people who have a lot to say about CUC. one, the coaching staff is absolutely amazing compared to the past staff. Don't get me wrong, some of the guys on the old coaching staff were great guys, just not that great at coaching. Conwell was a great guy, but it was a rough road for him along the way and recruiting didn't go very well.

Coach Preis has turned the program around already within a matter of months. I realized someone commented on the spread offense the cougs now run and compared it to the offense they ran when Hynes was head coach. In my view, the 2003 offense comes no where close to what the cougs run now. THEY MOVE THE BALL!!! The coaches now are young and are more with the game, they know what it takes to win and they will win a lot more games (including this weekend). The cougs defense is dominating the field and a lot of the guys have never even played the positions they are playing!!! Once this offense gets scoring, their opponents better watch out because the COUGS WILL BE A THREAT whether anyone likes it or not!!!

LET'S GO COUGS!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 07, 2006, 12:55:33 PM
To Monster,

I compared the Spread O of Hynes and Janowski by just stating that they are in fact of the same concept, Not how it is being run, If I was doing that I would have said how stupid the spread was under Ted Smith the 2004 O Coordinator, Plus, It has been one game, in the past I have not seen good things from people who become over confident. On facebook you have groups talking about the undefeated cougars, Blackburn was no powerhouse in any way, shape, or form. Good luck on Sat. I will be cheering for you, just don't get too cocky!
PS. I joined the Facebook group!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nccsports891 on September 07, 2006, 01:18:40 PM
What kind of team does Concordia-Wisconsin have?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: touchdownjesus on September 07, 2006, 01:54:18 PM
While I am happy for the progress CUC has made the past months, in fact all IBFC teams have seemed to improve although the opening weekend did no show it in wins; I think the U of C is going to beat up on CUC.  UC just has too many weapons.  They won their last five games and most of their starters and their back-ups are back on offense.  Plus, their defense is always stout.  I wish CUC the best of luck, but UC is NOT Blackburn.   This game gets out of hand by the 3rd QTR.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 07, 2006, 02:43:44 PM
Quote from: 7400West on September 07, 2006, 12:55:33 PM
To Monster,

I compared the Spread O of Hynes and Janowski by just stating that they are in fact of the same concept, Not how it is being run, If I was doing that I would have said how stupid the spread was under Ted Smith the 2004 O Coordinator, Plus, It has been one game, in the past I have not seen good things from people who become over confident. On facebook you have groups talking about the undefeated cougars, Blackburn was no powerhouse in any way, shape, or form. Good luck on Sat. I will be cheering for you, just don't get too cocky!
PS. I joined the Facebook group!


nothing pisses me off more than someone with a horrible attitude which is basically what you have. i want to say first that nobody is over confident about anything and if you are talking to someone who seems like they are then who are you talking to??? Okay, Blackburn isnt a powerhouse...big deal, a W is a W and i think it sucks that there are people like you that are pretty much showing their jealous side because they are not on the team anymore or just can't accept the fact that we won our first game and are getting praised for it as you sit your ass somewhere else. It is pretty pathetic to sit there and call people out on the CUC football squad because you hold a grudge against them or something, very childish. As for you cheering for us, if i am not mistaken, I do believe in your previous post you make a comment about our O-line not handling the D line and CUC losing 27-14. And i don't know where you sense this cockiness...but hey man thats cool. Also, I don't think someone should have an opinion about people on the team when they haven't seen them in game action yet. WE PLAY THE GAME, YOU WATCH!!!

LET'S GO COUGS!

touchdownjesus,

thanks for the wishes of luck to CUC, it is greatly appreciated. Hopefully they prove you wrong though about "getting beat up on" :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 07, 2006, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: 7400West on September 07, 2006, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: monsterT01 on September 07, 2006, 02:43:44 PM
Quote from: 7400West on September 07, 2006, 12:55:33 PM
To Monster,

I compared the Spread O of Hynes and Janowski by just stating that they are in fact of the same concept, Not how it is being run, If I was doing that I would have said how stupid the spread was under Ted Smith the 2004 O Coordinator, Plus, It has been one game, in the past I have not seen good things from people who become over confident. On facebook you have groups talking about the undefeated cougars, Blackburn was no powerhouse in any way, shape, or form. Good luck on Sat. I will be cheering for you, just don't get too cocky!
PS. I joined the Facebook group!


nothing pisses me off more than someone with a horrible attitude which is basically what you have. i want to say first that nobody is over confident about anything and if you are talking to someone who seems like they are then who are you talking to??? Okay, Blackburn isnt a powerhouse...big deal, a W is a W and i think it sucks that there are people like you that are pretty much showing their jealous side because they are not on the team anymore or just can't accept the fact that we won our first game and are getting praised for it as you sit your ass somewhere else. It is pretty pathetic to sit there and call people out on the CUC football squad because you hold a grudge against them or something, very childish. As for you cheering for us, if i am not mistaken, I do believe in your previous post you make a comment about our O-line not handling the D line and CUC losing 27-14. And i don't know where you sense this cockiness...but hey man thats cool. Also, I don't think someone should have an opinion about people on the team when they haven't seen them in game action yet. WE PLAY THE GAME, YOU WATCH!!!

LET'S GO COUGS!

touchdownjesus,

thanks for the wishes of luck to CUC, it is greatly appreciated. Hopefully they prove you wrong though about "getting beat up on" :)




YOu know monster,

        It is chilish people like yourself that really make me happy that i took a year off, I hope this is you last year, You have no idea why i am not playing. I am going to go out on a limb and say that i have played longer and harder then you. Go ahead and get upset at me about what i wright about, that is the whole point of the website, I really dont care about if you get mad at me, click on my name and you can know who i am by reading my email address, Oh and dont give me that you play and i watch bull****, you make it seem like you guys work so much harder then in the past, so you wake up earlie or run a few more sprints, big deal, everyone in Football, peewees to pro's works hard, try being humble, that would suit you just right, you might even be better! Plus I dont need to go to every game to be a fan, do you go to every Cubs, Sox, or Bears games....maybe you do but i doubt it! Get you "team mates" in the locker room, dont waste your time talking to me. Get better and Win some games, Prove me wrong on Sat. I am going to my high School game where winning is humble and Tradition is King. Have respect for the game!

okay, you got me...i should just shut up right?? One, I guarantee you and would put anything on it that you have never worked harder than me on and off the field...I am sure many would agree. And I obviously don't have to click on your name to find out who you are since I know who you are by saying that you are not playing this year. I never said you have to go to every game to be a fan but when you are a fan of a team you don't predict them to lose. I am not childish, I simply pointed out your personal attacks on some men from the CUC team because of your dislikes with them. GO ahead to your high school game "where winning is humble and tradition is king"....keep living in the past, it will get you places. And I will say we do work ten times harder in the past...something you don't know about. Its not just a few things here and a few things there but it is also about a teams attitude, something else you don't know. I don't care for your excuses as to why you took a year off...it may be legit, it may not be but hey man whatever, you started the whole thing..its nice to see that you go against a lot of people and could give a crap about it. But you seem to be cool with it so keep it up and ummm keep "working harder than i do" HAHAHA.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 07, 2006, 03:50:29 PM
and also, just to add...7400, this website was not formed to piss people off...this is for discussion. Intelligent discussion and for awhile I was just a reader of this and was always interested to see what people had to say until I come by a post like yours that throws out personal attacks on people. So, i reacted and sunk to your level and made this "a site to piss people off" I apologize to the rest of the readers.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 07, 2006, 04:30:59 PM
Here's to Concordia Chicago and hope that they can make it 2 in a row.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2006, 05:15:50 PM
  Hey all you Cougar fans.....They got some "ink" on the Around the Nation
   report on the D-3 site.
   Not much but "ink" non the less.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 07, 2006, 11:18:49 PM
ok well, for one...i am not who you think i am and that is poor judgement on your part. i don't even know what "other site" you are talking about and the only reason i am pissed off is because of the first post you made on here about CUC and some players on the team. It offended me because that is MY TEAM you are talking about and these guys are like my second family. I am not a piece of **** and i am a very hard working football player and when i see something distasteful about my team or my teammates, i take offense to it. Enough of the excuses on why you didn't play, i am damn well sure that there are a lot of guys playing football right now and going to class full time that have to pay things off. Once again, you put the blame on someone else. The things you have said about the team are ridiculous and a lot of the guys took offense to it whether you like it or not. The screen doesnt lie...you said a lot of crap, and good luck getting it off your shoulders.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 07, 2006, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on September 07, 2006, 04:30:59 PM
Here's to Concordia Chicago and hope that they can make it 2 in a row.

thank you very much, it is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 08, 2006, 01:16:04 AM
im not hiding anything bud and i don't do crossword puzzles. you talked trash about my team, you deserve what you got and i am sure a lot of people would agree with me. keep calling people out, i don't give a crap and i can't call a person a friend when they down something i am a part of. get a grip of yourself you drama queen...quit acting as if you did nothing wrong up to this post. first you say this site is for fun and to piss people off when i am sure if you ask a majority of the MATURE posters and readers on here it is not. but hey, thats my opinion...you talk about stepping up and saying who i am, why would i do something that dumb and get many people in trouble, it is bad enough i had already stooped to your level. You tell me to come out and be a man or whatever you say, why don't you go ahead and be a man and go to all those guys you had something negative to say about and read to them what you said, see what happens. you act as if your sh*t doesn't stink and you still think you could sit here and call some of us your teammates...teammates don't talk negatively about other teammates bud...something you never got used to. why don't you just be the man and admit that you crossed the line with some of the things you said...i wouldn't be shocked if you don't though. have a good night and have a great time at your high school game on saturday where winning is humble and tradition is king, usually those traits come along with people from teams like that...what happened?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 08, 2006, 01:18:25 AM
Hey guys, take it easy...we don't need something like this to distract us.  I know MonsterT you know who I am, so please just take it easy and just focus on school and football.  7400...relax, i know you want to be out there with us and it would be great if you could.  lets just drop the situation at hand and play football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 08, 2006, 10:32:08 AM
CUC everyone is happy for you that you got a win and represented the conference by getting that W.  Things will be a lot better now if you go out and beat a more respectable team.  You guys should focus on the task at hand and getting better everyday of the week in order to come up with a W this weekend.  Use negativity against you as motivation to become even better.  Play so that you leave NO DOUBT in anyones mind about how hard you work on and off the field.  PLay as if every play were the last you would ever have.



I don't know much about NCC but I think CUW comes up with the win here.  CUW already has a game under their belts and a chance to work out some of the kinks in actual game situations.  Beating a decent non conference opponent like NCC will be a big boost in confidence. 

WHo does Elmhurst have this week Jaybird?  WHat are your predictions for that game?

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 08, 2006, 11:14:14 AM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on September 08, 2006, 01:18:25 AM
Hey guys, take it easy...we don't need something like this to distract us.  I know MonsterT you know who I am, so please just take it easy and just focus on school and football.  7400...relax, i know you want to be out there with us and it would be great if you could.  lets just drop the situation at hand and play football.

you are right and i apologized earlier for already sinking to this guys level. He is obviously sour and will always be sour at the fact that he is not playing and blaming that on his roommate. But you are right, why sit here and argue with a bitch...like i said i am not hiding anything, and you'd be pretty dumb not to realize that. The whole deal though about "being nice to teammates and all that jazz" thats what teammates do moron, they talk about winning every week and boost each other up regardless if they are first, second, or even third string. CUC obviously got rid of the negativity on the team and we could see where this negativity still lurks. Thanks Falcsfb, i think you say it best and it is greatly appreciated. I should of been the bigger man at the beginning and just laughed in this guys face and ignored his ridiculous comments. Just for fun right??? Coward.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 08, 2006, 11:17:21 AM
guys!!!!!!!!!

With all due respect , "you guys need to cut that s##t OUT"!!!!!!!  this is exactly what i was talking about, MATURITY.  i don't know you guys (7400west & Monster) but i definitely feel that if this is an internal problem within the CUC program then neither one of you are doing anything constructive to help that program grow, current player ,ex-player or whatever. 

quite honest with you guys,  if you cruise throughout the other regions of this web-site you'll find that this is the only site that does so much b**ching and name calling.  REPRESENT!!!!!! 

Players if you're on here get off!!!  you need to be giving your attention to your teammates and your playbook in prep for the game.  Explayer, yeah continue to post but damn leave names out of it.  let them do their THING!!  you got yours....

i think Elmhurst have a bye week.

to all the teams this weekend CCIW/IBFC good luck and go get'em!!!!! 



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 08, 2006, 01:04:09 PM
Quote from: BluPhi35 on September 08, 2006, 11:17:21 AM
guys!!!!!!!!!

With all due respect , "you guys need to cut that s##t OUT"!!!!!!!  this is exactly what i was talking about, MATURITY.  i don't know you guys (7400west & Monster) but i definitely feel that if this is an internal problem within the CUC program then neither one of you are doing anything constructive to help that program grow, current player ,ex-player or whatever. 

quite honest with you guys,  if you cruise throughout the other regions of this web-site you'll find that this is the only site that does so much b**ching and name calling.  REPRESENT!!!!!! 

Players if you're on here get off!!!  you need to be giving your attention to your teammates and your playbook in prep for the game.  Explayer, yeah continue to post but damn leave names out of it.  let them do their THING!!  you got yours....

i think Elmhurst have a bye week.

to all the teams this weekend CCIW/IBFC good luck and go get'em!!!!! 


to BluPhi,

Sorry for the ridiculous posts that i have been doing lately. You are right about the staying off this if you are a player and i crossed that line. Like I said earlier, I would just come on here to read up on some things and see what people would say (hopefully thats alright) and seeing one post offended me and for some reason I let it get under my skin. As for me posting, I will not post anymore but I will continue to come on and read some of the interesting opinions in my very spare time. Thanks again BluPhi and to all the other guys on here that truly support CUC and IBFC...I'm out!

as for 7400, I might have crossed some lines and I will just be a man and apologize for it. You could have your opinions, that I don't mind. I just didn't like the calling out of names, thats all. Hopefully, you accept my apology and continue to post your thoughts on here also.

and...not done, BASEMAN is gay...j/k (he is a good friend of mine)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 08, 2006, 01:29:51 PM
monster

you live and you learn.  now let's go and win some ball games!!!!!  what's up with this "karma" pts.  from the looks of it , i ain't doin too good!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: monsterT01 on September 08, 2006, 03:02:05 PM
yea i am not doing to well on the karma points either...maybe negative is good. :-\ Thanks for accepting the apology too, I really want you guys to get this discussion board brewin', I like to see what people think about the IBFC conference. Can some of you guys if you want, post how you think the season will end in terms of record? later.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 08, 2006, 03:12:02 PM
i think the IBFC has gotten tougher but we will know more once conference start.  there are a few teams "down" comparing where they were two years ago, so let the race begin.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on September 08, 2006, 03:27:16 PM
Picks for the week:

Coe over AU by 35 (42-7)  
BU over North Park by 10 (24-14)
CU over CUC by 3 (13-10)
Greenville over Blackburn by 21 (21-0)
Carthage over Lakeland by 7 (28-21)
Mac over Rockford by 4 (21-17)
North Central over CUW by 18 (35-17)

This is a down year, even by the low IBC standards.  CUW is head and shoulders above the rest.  Lakeland and AU are rebuilding.  Mac and Greenville are on the rise, but can't get with CUW.  BU and CUC are too young.  And EU could be the worst team in the nation.  It bothers me to say this being an IBC alum.  I remember the days when the conference champ could play with the best in the Midwest.  Hopefully the conference shift will spark some of these lowely programs.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 08, 2006, 03:59:08 PM
peace out and good luck this weekend!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 08, 2006, 04:32:26 PM
falcsfb-- Elmhurst is off this weekend.  I would rather see them playing because their defense was very stingy and playing well last week.  They resume the following week (9/16) against Chicago at Elmhurst.
Offensively,  I think it is a good thing we have a bye  to get the (new) starting QB time to get familiar with his new job as #1.  I still can't believe Kudyba is out for the year.  :-[
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 08, 2006, 05:08:35 PM
really when it comes down to it i am not going to live in a dream world and say a team is going to win every game after winning their first in 20. Sorry to all who just want this to be a fun enjoyable site. Monster, If i knew who you were we did not have to keep posting this garbage, Good luck to you and your team, I will be there. After thinking about what i was doing, I agree that posting the names of people was wrong and I would be pissed if i read that about me. I should be out there and it hurts, and I felt this was a way to get involved, But no more names and now that i know who monster is I will talk to him else where. I wont say good luck to all the teams in the IBC because they are CUC's opponent. But I will say that I hope the IBC gains some respect, starting with a two game winning streak by the cougars!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nccsports891 on September 09, 2006, 03:22:11 AM
There doesn't appear to be too much love for CUW on this board, but for those who want to hear them play North Central on Saturday night, you can tune into 89.1 FM in the Naperville area or online at www.wonc.org. The game is at 6 PM, the pregame show is at 5:30. I hope a lot of you can listen.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 09, 2006, 07:07:54 AM
There are two things that I would like to say, One, If the cougars beat the maroons in a couple of hours they are legit! I hope they do. I wont be easy, UC's coaching staff was at the cougars game on sat. and took notes, plus with the video they have, the Maroons will be prepared. ON the other hand, this is the best time to play them seeing how they have yet to play a game.
the 2nd thing i would like to say is not to take what i say to heart. Relax and read it for what it is. Sports talk. I wont use names unless I have something very good to say. and I am not going to get in typing wars with people who disagree with me. I promiss you that. This might be the moment the IBC starts to respect CUC.
Go Cougars!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 09, 2006, 08:06:30 AM
Quote from: 7400West on September 08, 2006, 05:08:35 PM
After thinking about what i was doing, I agree that posting the names of people was wrong and I would be pissed if i read that about me. I should be out there and it hurts, and I felt this was a way to get involved, But no more names and now that i know who monster is I will talk to him else where.

If this is how you really feel then go back and delete all of your posts.  In fact both you and monster should delete all the crap from the past few days.  Only you have the power to delete your posts since the moderator has allowed your posts to stay on the site.

    :-X      :-X     :-X
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 09, 2006, 08:07:52 AM
Six hours till the MONKEY STOMP begins!

This game isn't worth the toll money to get there on I-88 for Aurora fans.

GO KOHAWKS!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 09, 2006, 11:52:13 AM
Cookoo-  And if Aurora upsets  Coe then what?  Should you go and delete this post?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 09, 2006, 02:52:12 PM
Lakeland 7, Carthage 7 just shy of midway thru the 2nd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 09, 2006, 03:20:47 PM
Carthage 14, Lakeland 7 (Halftime).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 09, 2006, 03:57:15 PM
Ouch CUC, Ouch.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 09, 2006, 04:05:28 PM
End of 3rd Qrtr:  Carthage and Lakeland tied at 14.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 09, 2006, 04:37:15 PM
Carthage threatening late. . .
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 09, 2006, 04:43:53 PM
Final:  Carthage 21, Lakeland 14.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 09, 2006, 05:27:58 PM
UC 55 CUC O!!!

CUC had 3 first downs all game.
UC had over 600 yrd of Offense.
-8 yards Rushing for CUC
4 rushing td's for the CU running back Shea, he is one of only 3 players in UC history to do that, this is coming from a team that used to play in the big ten and the 1st hiesmen trophy winnner is an alum!

This was a hard game to watch, but I like CUC over ROSE next sat. They just need to get back to work this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mr_b on September 09, 2006, 05:34:44 PM
Chicago 55, CURF 0.  Chicago had a down year in 2005 and I expected them to bounce back, but this is quite a statement.  I thought it would be closer after Concordia's showing last week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 09, 2006, 05:35:57 PM
ouch, that does hurt for CUC.  But, we can see the character of the team if they can come back from a loss like that, which we never did last year.

But damn, Lakeland almost pulled one out against Carthage, would have been sweet to see someone win the IBC this weekend.  

I guess we still have Aurora, CUW and Greenville still playing.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 09, 2006, 07:12:02 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on September 09, 2006, 11:52:13 AM
Cookoo-  And if Aurora upsets  Coe then what?  Should you go and delete this post?

Mo-Mo-Mo-Mo- MONKEY!!!  STOMP!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 09, 2006, 08:37:07 PM
Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on September 09, 2006, 07:12:02 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on September 09, 2006, 11:52:13 AM
Cookoo-  And if Aurora upsets  Coe then what?  Should you go and delete this post?

Mo-Mo-Mo-Mo- MONKEY!!!  STOMP!!!


If you are not going to show class or maturity...Please do not post......coocooforcoekohawk
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 09, 2006, 10:26:45 PM
CUW- two impressive wins against teams from superior conferences.  You should get some votes this week in my opinion.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Falcon77 on September 09, 2006, 11:02:31 PM
They will definately get some votes. Don't be surprised if they crack the top 25 @ 24 or 25. Big win for the program. Keep the momentum going. Great job CUW!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on September 09, 2006, 11:21:00 PM
I just got word on the MacMurray game and the final was 22-0!!! Apparently Rockford is pretty good....or Mac is just not clicking and this looks like a 2-8 season or evern 1-9. Now 0-10 is also a possibility, but i also feel sorry for the players on that team that bust their butts to help that team out and still dont get it done. As a fan of mac it hurts to see the program decline so much in just three years removed from a conference title.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2006, 12:20:56 AM
I have no stats or anything, as I was working and could not listen.....but final from Greenville......... Greenville 44 - Blackburn 13
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 10, 2006, 12:37:45 AM
CU-Wisconsin knocking off North Central is a huge upset and a great win for the Falcons program... Congrats.  I almost stuttered on the air  when I heard over the Wheaton PA  that CUW had beat NC in double OT. 
Hope the Falcs can keep the momentum going.
CookooforKoeHawks-- I really didn't care who won/lost that game.  I just think it would have been funny if after your comment, your team didn't get the W and you would have had to eat your word(s).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on September 10, 2006, 01:13:17 AM
Way to go concordia wisconsin. That is a huge win for the conference and for the teams moral. With that win it shows that CW is in my opinion the conference champs this year, lakeland will give them a game, but CW will pull it out and could possibly get that elusive first win in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gordonmann on September 10, 2006, 01:17:28 AM
Congrats to CUW -- that's a huge win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 10, 2006, 06:45:03 AM
Super job CUW. They should run the table til they meet Lakeland. Yet they would have to be the favorite going into that game. No need to look ahead though. Concentrate on the next game. Has anyone run the table since Lakeland did it in 96? Bobby Langston keep them focused son, Again great job to the coaching staff and players ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 10, 2006, 12:17:59 PM
The cardinals were flat-out out matched. CUW ran right over them.  Even with all the help from the Reffing crew.  The phantom catch for NC on the sideline on 3rd and 20.  The bogus holding calls on CUW's touchdown pass and big gaines, the "incedental" facemask that pulled a CUW player almost to the ground.  All bias aside that was a terribly reffed game it was like 11 on 15  but CUW showed great character and fight by overcoming all the adversity.  The score should have been 24-0 at half.   NCC is a very good team and mounted a strong comeback in the second half.  Although, some of it was aided by the refs.  CUW is looking big strong and fast.  If they keep this momentum up lookout IBFC.  We'll talk about playoffs when the time comes.  Until then stay focused and get better every day and every week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 10, 2006, 01:00:53 PM
Lookout maddog I'm getting closer in   - karma points   :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 10, 2006, 02:06:55 PM
coocoo  You weren't at the game so you have no clue as to what happened.  There is no excuse for bad officiating.  That is the job and they get payed to do.  If someone in the business world were bad at their job they would be fired.  I took nothing away from the game it was hard hitting intense and hard fought.  However, players should decide games not refs  (Miami, Ohio State).  I don't come on here talking about "monkeystomps" (whatever that means).  So don't accuse me of not being mature.  How about showing class yourself.  Your team wins and you come on here and boast about it....ironic
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Uncledudley on September 10, 2006, 02:50:58 PM
Great game CUW. I thought going into the game that NCC would take your lunch money. Instead you took theirs!  Outstanding effort!  I look forward to seeing more of your games and getting more bird wear. How about that defensive line play. Big and quick. And the NCC coach says that their o-line is the best he's had in the years he has been there. You put them in their place. Keep the run going.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 10, 2006, 03:32:38 PM
What a great weekend for the Illini Badger Conference.  As a loyal CCIWster  I must say that this was a frustrating and disappointing weekend which,  is a credit to the teams in the IBC.
Concordia (WI), quite the shocker and very difficult to come into Naperville (nowadays) and pull out a W.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 10, 2006, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on September 10, 2006, 06:45:03 AM
Super job CUW. They should run the table til they meet Lakeland. Yet they would have to be the favorite going into that game. No need to look ahead though. Concentrate on the next game. Has anyone run the table since Lakeland did it in 96? Bobby Langston keep them focused son, Again great job to the coaching staff and players ;D ;D ;D ;D

  Maddog: what do you mean when you say," has anyone run the table since Lakeland did it in 96?  Please explain. 
  I have an answer but want to be sure first .   

 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 10, 2006, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on September 10, 2006, 02:06:55 PM
coocoo  You weren't at the game so you have no clue as to what happened.  There is no excuse for bad officiating.  That is the job and they get payed to do.  If someone in the business world were bad at their job they would be fired.  I took nothing away from the game it was hard hitting intense and hard fought.  However, players should decide games not refs  (Miami, Ohio State).  I don't come on here talking about "monkeystomps" (whatever that means).  So don't accuse me of not being mature.  How about showing class yourself.  Your team wins and you come on here and boast about it....ironic

CRY, CRY, CRY :'(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 10, 2006, 09:04:33 PM
go back and read what you posted.........I attacked no referee......You combined something I said with something said by another poster.....So plese refrain from incriminating an innocent man
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on September 10, 2006, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 10, 2006, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on September 10, 2006, 06:45:03 AM
Super job CUW. They should run the table til they meet Lakeland. Yet they would have to be the favorite going into that game. No need to look ahead though. Concentrate on the next game. Has anyone run the table since Lakeland did it in 96? Bobby Langston keep them focused son, Again great job to the coaching staff and players ;D ;D ;D ;D

  Maddog: what do you mean when you say," has anyone run the table since Lakeland did it in 96?  Please explain. 
  I have an answer but want to be sure first .   

 

I am guessing, but I would assume he is making reference to Lakeland's 10-0 overall record in the 1997 season - thus the "run the table" reference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 10, 2006, 09:48:21 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on September 10, 2006, 09:04:33 PM
go back and read what you posted.........I attacked no referee......You combined something I said with something said by another poster.....So plese refrain from incriminating an innocent man

my bad I have deleted said post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 10, 2006, 10:06:52 PM
Quote from: Falcon77 on September 09, 2006, 11:02:31 PM
They will definately get some votes. Don't be surprised if they crack the top 25 @ 24 or 25. Big win for the program. Keep the momentum going. Great job CUW!!!!!!!!

CUW:
At least you got one more point than North Central did in the voting.  You'll have to run the table until you beat Lakeland to make it to the top 25.  Here's to hoping you make the top 25 by Oct.22nd
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 10, 2006, 11:41:07 PM
From hearing how good CUW is, I wouldn't be surprised on a 10-0 season because they begin conference soon and they should be able to blow out Wisconsin Lutheran next week. 

I really don't think Lakeland will be able to stand in their way. 

Could be a first playoff win and a top 25 spot ever........but it's early in the season, let's see what happens shall we??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 11, 2006, 12:15:05 AM
coocoo...heres to hoping...lol...heres to hoping NCC makes it BACK into the top 25 in the voting...its funny how CUW went into NCC and took their lunch and ate it in front of their mom....CUW deserves to be in the top 25 if NCC did...bc NCC lost at home...CUW has now learned how to play at that level and not only win but win on the road....one week winning throwing the ball the next week winning running theball...the feel at CUW is...We shouldve won bigger and we will def get better...dont be satisfied CUW...(hell of a QB at NCC you can look in his eyes and see a person that plays for every inch every play)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 11, 2006, 12:49:08 AM
also, anyone that was at the game...what was with the BS calls...the PI calls and especially that catch where the ball bounced out of bounds off the recievers hands????  we watched it on film...the ball touch the recievers hands and that was about it....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 11, 2006, 01:11:21 AM
CUC's oline is in trouble! They are having problems. If there is on thing that the O needs work on is that Line. Protect the QB and Run the ball=Wins!!!

The coaches messed with the oline from week one to week two by starting a new player at guard. the freshmen came in for a 3 year player at left guard. I really dont think you needed to do that. The whole "dont mess with what was working" think! Plus, when the score became out of hand that is when you take out the starters and put in the backups. this early in the season you need to get them in to build them up. you have got to find the 5 best and stick with them. you can't go changing all the time. last year and the year before the line changed all the time and could there was no time to form a chemistry togather. I hope this does not  repeat this year. the center got hurt in the eye by a cheep in the pile move by UC and had to leave for a few snaps and during that time there was an over head snap and several QB jump balls. This cannot happen. Work needs to be done. IF you are a player and you read this and get upset. Use this to fire your self up at pactice to win on Sat. I dont know much about ROSE ecept that they have a new coaching staff. I will get more on them soon. Work O-line you are the heart and soul of the team, no matter what happens!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 11, 2006, 09:30:56 AM
Go IBFC!!!!!!!

congrats to they guys who posted wins for your conference.  Especially BU and CUW.   everywhere i went i heard people saying how shocked they were after CUW beat NCC.  I WASN'T!!!!

i explained in detail on another conference site what CUW would do and said how their defensive and offensive line would play.  Shocking to them but a few people have to get off their "high-horse" and realize  that there better teams in other conferences than your own.  It's all about respecting your opponent and never getting complacent....  As for carthage and lakeland, oh well, i guess they played tough. 

congrats gentlemen!!!!!  REPRESENT.......

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 11, 2006, 10:43:55 AM
  Maddog:   No response so i`m going to guess as to what you ment ref,
  " has anybody run the table since LC in 96."
   I guess you mean has anyone in the IBC won all their non-conference and
    all their conference games  in a season.
    Well, the answer is ..............yes.
    MacMurray did it in 2002. They were 10-0. That gave them their 2nd conference title in a row and 2nd  straight entry into the NCAA play-offs.
   They didn`t share it with anybody...............know what i mean?
    Plus, that year(2002) Div-3, Top 25 poll had them ranked #14 in the country.
    I believe that`s the best any IBC team has done, including LC of course.
    Here i thought you were a student of IBC foootball..........not!
    Last week i picked LC to win...............just for you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
   
       

       
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 11, 2006, 11:16:04 AM
Quote from: 7400West on September 11, 2006, 01:11:21 AM
CUC's oline is in trouble! They are having problems. If there is on thing that the O needs work on is that Line. Protect the QB and Run the ball=Wins!!!

The coaches messed with the oline from week one to week two by starting a new player at guard. the freshmen came in for a 3 year player at left guard. I really dont think you needed to do that. The whole "dont mess with what was working" think! Plus, when the score became out of hand that is when you take out the starters and put in the backups. this early in the season you need to get them in to build them up. you have got to find the 5 best and stick with them. you can't go changing all the time. last year and the year before the line changed all the time and could there was no time to form a chemistry togather. I hope this does not  repeat this year. the center got hurt in the eye by a cheep in the pile move by UC and had to leave for a few snaps and during that time there was an over head snap and several QB jump balls. This cannot happen. Work needs to be done. IF you are a player and you read this and get upset. Use this to fire your self up at pactice to win on Sat. I dont know much about ROSE ecept that they have a new coaching staff. I will get more on them soon. Work O-line you are the heart and soul of the team, no matter what happens!

7400west

you have some good points and i strongly agree with you on the encourgaging the o-line!!!!!!  after watching the game, it's no question that CUC have some athletes it was a matter of EXECUTION.   my opinion is execution must be monitored and practiced everyday.  i'm not saying that the coaching staff's not preaching it but it showed on Saturday.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 11, 2006, 11:21:52 AM
i  mean CUC had several opportunities to to make huge plays but couldn't finish the job.  u of c had this blitz happy 3-3-5 defense that left holes but CUC couldn't get to them.   keep poundin' the rock and in a little while big things are going to happen.  look at BU they're rollin' after learning from their mistakes against ELMHURST.  learn and never look back...

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 11, 2006, 11:44:48 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 11, 2006, 10:43:55 AM
  Maddog:   No response so i`m going to guess as to what you ment ref,
  " has anybody run the table since LC in 96."
   I guess you mean has anyone in the IBC won all their non-conference and
    all their conference games  in a season.
    Well, the answer is ..............yes.
    MacMurray did it in 2002. They were 10-0. That gave them their 2nd conference title in a row and 2nd  straight entry into the NCAA play-offs.
   They didn`t share it with anybody...............know what i mean?
    Plus, that year(2002) Div-3, Top 25 poll had them ranked #14 in the country.
    I believe that`s the best any IBC team has done, including LC of course.
    Here i thought you were a student of IBC foootball..........not!
    Last week i picked LC to win...............just for you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
   
     

What was there end of the year ranking, since they lost the first round game 42-7.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 11, 2006, 12:02:06 PM
   The end of the year ranking prior to the play-offs Mac was ranked #14
    as i stated. As Maddogs question was about running the table (10 games regular season)   my answer was correct with a little extra for maddog.
    To answer your question, i`m not sure where they finally ended up.
    Wabash was the better team in the play-offs no doubt about it. 
    Un-like "others" Mac took the loss and moved on. No would-a, could-a
   or should-a`s. It was raining, the umps were biased, etc.
   Mac had a very good team that year but Wabash was  42-7 better.
   
   

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2006, 02:58:37 PM
MacMurray was indeed ranked #14 going into the 2002 postseason.

http://www.d3football.com/afcapoll.htm

The 2002 poll was the last year before we started our own poll. We started our own poll because the AFCA poll in 2002 was just plain awful. The coaches just seem to ignore or be unaware of a team's strength of schedule.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 11, 2006, 03:35:29 PM
That was a very intelligent rebuttal coo coo.  You must be very intelligent.  Don't be mad because I pointed out your hypocrisy.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 11, 2006, 03:36:18 PM
Oh well, whatever, nevermind right.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 11, 2006, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on September 11, 2006, 03:36:18 PM
Oh well, whatever, nevermind right.

Yep!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 11, 2006, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on September 10, 2006, 12:17:59 PM
The cardinals were flat-out out matched. CUW ran right over them.   CUW is looking big strong and fast.  If they keep this momentum up lookout IBFC. 


You're right, no one should come on this sight and boast about their team.   It makes you look childish, not as childish as complaining about refs who don't get paid much, and do it for the love of the game, but I digress.  Boasting about  your team on this sight is an unforgivable sin.

P.S. could you explain how it is ironic that I came on this sight and boasted about my team, you see I'm not very intelligent, and I didn't get it. :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on September 11, 2006, 10:25:10 PM
Coocoo~

What's your prediction for the Coe - Luther game?  I'm coming up for that game.  Should be a dandy.
 

Congrats to CUW.  Tremedous win.  BU knocking around NP(cciw) was good to see as well.

As far as runing the table goes I know that AU went 27-1 in the IBFC from 98'-01.  During those years they lost to the eventual  CCIW confrence champs 7-6(IW 98), and 14-12(Big Blue 99).  Being that it was our first two seasons in the confrence we didn't get the automatic bid, thus not making the play-offs becuse of before mention losses and dropin' games to Valpo.  Those were some fast, aggressive, angery young men on those teams.

Good Luck to the Spartans.  Your young, stick with the system.  It'll work and you'll be back to the top in no time.  Play hard.  Play fast.  PLAY SMART.  Go Blue.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 12, 2006, 09:17:22 AM
what's the prediction of BU/NCC game?

  i have to agree with "coo coo" it does make you look like an idiot going to other sites boasting.  i sent a message to the guys of CCIW about that but hey, what else are you going to do?   ???

if you got beat, give it up to the opposing team.  don't whine about it? these dudes are trippin' me out because i'm getting this disturbing feeling that most of those "cats" were 3rd string ball players and always making excuses about there teams and why they're not on the field(old days)! :P

anyway what's up with match-ups this weekend?  who does AU and Greenville play?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 12, 2006, 09:20:50 AM
pat coleman

your the general of the site.  please explain to me about this "karma" points.  i'm not feeling the love at all considering every post i make is negative ratings. show and throw some love this way.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 12, 2006, 12:19:21 PM
Greenville plays Taylor University-IND, there an NAIA team. There 0-2 with losses to Anderson, and Quincy.  Greenville should get the win. I predict this Saturday -

1) Greenville vs Tayor U  (Greenville Wins - 42-14)
2) CUW vs Wisconsin Luthern (CUW WINS)
3) Aurora doesn't play till the 23rd against MacMurray.
4) Lakeland vs UW-Oshkosh (Lakeland Loses)
5) BU vs North Central  (Benedictine Loses)
6) Eureka vs North Park (Eureka Wins)
7) Concordia vs Rose-Hulman (CU Wins)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 12, 2006, 01:54:12 PM
Dear Tru,

I have to agree with every thing even the BU NCC game, BU is going to get blown away! end of story. BU cant hang with NCC yet!

Now for on to the CUC and Rose Game!
CUC beats Rose after a hard week of practice by Coach Pries. the Coach is working them hard and will correct the mistakes from the UC game last week. But is is going to be a close game. Rose has a qb and the wr's to match. the running game is above par aswell. the d can be scored against. CUC has to have a game. What happens at this game is the turning point of the cougars season. Rose has a new head coach but he is no stranger to the team. He is the former O-cord. of 4 years. Now the head coach he is 1 and 1 so far.  he is the second younges coach in NCAA football.  the Principia coach is a couple months younger.

       "The 2006 projected football roster features over 30 returning letter winners, including 15 starters.  Highlights include a fourth-year starting quarterback, four starters back on the offensive line and at linebacker, and three starters returning on the defensive line."
         The above is taken from the Rose web site.

But CUC can beat them with heart. and that is what they will have

CUC 14 ROSE 10

Good Luck and stay Focused!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 12, 2006, 01:59:32 PM
Your right that was childish of me, but Then I went on to talk about what a good game it was and how good NCC looked.  You called me out for whining about the refs as if it took something away from the game, which I reiterated it was an awesome game.  I also appologized on the CCIW site, I typed before I thought.  And just because you love the game dones't mean it's ok to be a bad at calling it.  If you love it but suck at calling it you should quit out of respect for the game and thew players.  Keep up the mo-mo-mo-monkeystops and good luck to coe the rest of the year.  

And as for my playing experience I wont boast about it but I played plenty.  How was yours?

Like I said Oh well, whatever, nevermind.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 12, 2006, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on September 12, 2006, 01:59:32 PM
Your right that was childish of me, but Then I went on to talk about what a good game it was and how good NCC looked.  You called me out for whining about the refs as if it took something away from the game, which I reiterated it was an awesome game.  I also appologized on the CCIW site, I typed before I thought.  And just because you love the game dones't mean it's ok to be a bad at calling it.  If you love it but suck at calling it you should quit out of respect for the game and thew players.  Keep up the mo-mo-mo-monkeystops and good luck to coe the rest of the year.  

And as for my playing experience I wont boast about it but I played plenty.  How was yours?

Like I said Oh well, whatever, nevermind.

Whoa! :o

falcsfb i wasn't personally attacking you and apologizies to you my man.  i look at both sites and all i see  CCIW guys comparing IBFC and CCIW.  they continually talk about how some teams got lucy in beating a few teams.  i'm all about respecting your opponent and realizing that anybody can be beat.

furthermore, words cannot explain my love for the game.  i've paid my dues both on and off the field.  so don't take that as boasting because it's never about me. i know that the game is bigger than i am and i'm just trying to share what was given to me from the game.

i'm not from either of the conferences so
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 12, 2006, 02:37:17 PM
Quote from: BluPhi35 on September 12, 2006, 09:17:22 AM
if you got beat, give it up to the opposing team.  don't whine about it? these dudes are trippin' me out because i'm getting this disturbing feeling that most of those "cats" were 3rd string ball players and always making excuses about there teams and why they're not on the field(old days)! :P

Gee... not too big of a generalization, is it?  I know some of the posters are 4 year starters and even coached - much like virtually every other board.  Almost all love D3 football, their team and their conference.  A few posters cross the line and make inappropriate comments or excuses - again... like most boards.

Don't lump every CCIW poster into the "3rd string, never saw the field, don't know a football from their backsides, make excuses for every loss" bucket.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 12, 2006, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on September 12, 2006, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: BluPhi35 on September 12, 2006, 09:08:57 AM
what's with all this comparison between CCIW and IBFC?  i don't get it.  if you're any kind of competitor, win or lose you pay your respects to the opposing team.  quit whinning about officiating and excuses.  The better teams won last Saturday, plain and simple.......  show some respect.......

as an individual i don't care what conference your from, who you played last week, who's officiating the game and i definitely don't care about what happened a year ago!!!  i'm going to take the field with the attitude of," i'm going to kick your a*s, TODAY for the next 2hrs"!!!!!

Yup... Concordia (Wis) beat NCC in 2 OTs. Congrats.  It sounds like it was a hard-fought, very close game.  Recognition should go the Concordia on a fine victory.  And yes... this year is the important year and the next game is the most important game.

It should be noted the comparing the CCIW vs. IBC is not a one way discussion.  Just check both boards during last season as Lakeland was preparing to play Augustana.  IBC posters were just as guilty as CCIW posters beating their chests about their conference.  That is a part of virtually every board on the D3Football website.

Please excuse the perceived arrogance of some CCIW posters, but there is a reason for our pride in the CCIW - particularly in relation to the IBC. 

IBC record against the CCIW since the 2000 season:

Concordia (Wis.): 1-0 (last weeks 30-24 2OT game against NCC)
Greenville: 0-3 (include 58-7 & 65-6 blowouts from Wheaton & loss to NorthPark)
Benedictine: 2-16 (avg score in losses: 38.2 - 10.5)
Concordia (Ill.): 0-4 (2 losses to North Park)
Eureka: 0-8 (4 losses to North Park, other losses: 60-14, 40-6, 50-7, 61-0)
Aurora: 0-2
Lakeland: 2-6 (beat Carthage twice in tight games)
MacMurray: 1-1 (victory over North Park & 53-7 drubbing by Augustana 2 weeks ago)

Cumulative record against the CCIW since 2000 is a paltry 6-40 (.150 winning percentage).  2 of 6 victories have come at the expense of North Park, which hasn't won a CCIW game since the 2000 season!  While North Park hasn't defeated a single CCIW team since 2000, they are 7-2 against the IBC

So when 1 or 2 IBC posters start rippin' on the CCIW after a single victory (albeit a quality win), you can see why some have reacted the way they have.

All this doesn't even bring into consideration that the IBC has yet to win a playoff game, while the CCIW has 4 national championships (yes, I know... in the 80's) and playoff victories by Augustana, Wheaton, Carthage, Millikin and Illinois Wesleyan in the last decade.

Copied post from over on CCIW board.  I fully recognize Concordia for a great win against a very tough North Central squad with high expectations for 2006.  But as I mention above, some CCIW posters are probably a bit defensive as the CCIW had a horrible week, but historically have had the IBC's number.  Perhaps the trend is changing... time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 12, 2006, 02:50:12 PM
mugsy

i clearly did not intend to generalize all CCIW and IBFC posters.  all i'm saying to both side and i realize that i cannot expect people to act as i do but like you said, some of you guys "coached", "played" and whatever you know if you read this stuff after a hard fought battle and weeks preparation you'll feel slighted!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 12, 2006, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: BluPhi35 on September 12, 2006, 02:50:12 PM
mugsy

i clearly did not intend to generalize all CCIW and IBFC posters.  all i'm saying to both side and i realize that i cannot expect people to act as i do but like you said, some of you guys "coached", "played" and whatever you know if you read this stuff after a hard fought battle and weeks preparation you'll feel slighted!!!!!

fair enough
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 12, 2006, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on September 12, 2006, 01:59:32 PM

And as for my playing experience I wont boast about it but I played plenty.  How was yours?

Like I said Oh well, whatever, nevermind.

I didn't say anything about your playing experience.  I swam at Coe, I didn't play football, but I left Coe with four school records.

I was the one questioning your understanding of irony.

The phrase monkey stomp comes from the MIAC board.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 12, 2006, 11:31:25 PM
My apologies bluphi.

Congrats on your records thats pretty impressive.  I have a couple as well;  in FB.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on September 13, 2006, 10:33:36 AM
Now, I dont really care about who is winning and who is beating who bc frankley the real season starts when conference games are played!!! With that being said i just heard from my boy that bobby langston got defensive player of the week with 4 tackles and 2 sacks!!! I would like to know, why is everyone on this guys johnson so hard???!!!  I am not hating but i dont think everyone is getting fair shot for there athletic abilities instead people are just being bias on what they heard about...my opinon is give everyone a fair shot bc a defensive lineman i wiht 4 tackles and 2 sacks should not get defensive player of the week bc i know is better performances that week..I think there is alittle politics involve with this..but besides the point congrats to cuw for puting us on the map, we are just going to see whomever reps this conference at the end of the year; can the team do it crunch time!!! Closing thoughts...STOP THE POLITICS......GIVE EVERYONE A FAIR SHOT.....this langston kid...isnt that good!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 13, 2006, 11:02:29 AM
reeno

i feel ya!!  conference showdown is where the real ball playin takes place.  forget the preseason stuff or non-conference games.  i think they cool but coaches probably use them in prep for the CCIW/IBFC championship status. i'm anxious to see how some of lower teams do in both conferences.  Considering that all of those programs did some huge recruiting this past year. right now, these young guys have been gettin smacked around a little bit but i think it's great experience for them once the conference competition starts.   it'll be interesting to see how these freshman will fit in once conference start. 

i remember watching the BU/AU game last year.  you can tell that BU was coming up.  Greenville is another up and coming team.  what happened to Eureka? what's there status?

come on now!  i disagree with you saying a DL should win player of the week.  Sure the stats don't say much but maybe this kid dominated on the inside, maybe he forced plays to bounce, maybe he was in the backfield 60% of the plays.  Who knows? i'm pretty damn sure both coaches of the game had to vote.

Besides i'm the one who always show praise to OL/DL.  if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have a play, unit or a team......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 13, 2006, 11:06:54 AM
Quote from: BluPhi35 on September 13, 2006, 11:02:29 AM
reeno

i feel ya!!  conference showdown is where the real ball playin takes place.  forget the preseason stuff or non-conference games.  i think they cool but coaches probably use them in prep for the CCIW/IBFC championship status. i'm anxious to see how some of lower teams do in both conferences.  Considering that all of those programs did some huge recruiting this past year. right now, these young guys have been gettin smacked around a little bit but i think it's great experience for them once the conference competition starts.   it'll be interesting to see how these freshman will fit in once conference start. 

i remember watching the BU/AU game last year.  you can tell that BU was coming up.  Greenville is another up and coming team.  what happened to Eureka? what's there status?

come on now!  i disagree with you saying a DL should win player of the week.  Sure the stats don't say much but maybe this kid dominated on the inside, maybe he forced plays to bounce, maybe he was in the backfield 60% of the plays.  Who knows? i'm pretty damn sure both coaches of the game had to vote.

Besides i'm the one who always show praise to OL/DL.  if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have a play, unit or a team......

sorry about the typo: i meant to say, "i disagree with you saying a lineman shouldn't win player of the week".
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: curfalum1 on September 13, 2006, 11:08:04 AM
It appears that the coaching machine of CURF met their match.  Beating the Beavers was NOT a great victory.  CURF acted like they won the Superbowl.  For all you Coach Conwell bashers you deserve what you get.  CURF is going to struggle this year.  The program is in bad shape and some small time high school coach is not going to bring it back.  Coach Hynes was a main reason for the demise of the program.  Recruit all the Lutherans you want, play games w/ the players, be buddy w/ the kids.  What you need to do is recruit quality players and not take any advice form Jeff Hynes.  I am afraid you will lose more games like Saturday - enjoy!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 13, 2006, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: curfalum1 on September 13, 2006, 11:08:04 AM
It appears that the coaching machine of CURF met their match.  Beating the Beavers was NOT a great victory.  CURF acted like they won the Superbowl.  For all you Coach Conwell bashers you deserve what you get.  CURF is going to struggle this year.  The program is in bad shape and some small time high school coach is not going to bring it back.  Coach Hynes was a main reason for the demise of the program.  Recruit all the Lutherans you want, play games w/ the players, be buddy w/ the kids.  What you need to do is recruit quality players and not take any advice form Jeff Hynes.  I am afraid you will lose more games like Saturday - enjoy!

curfalum1

sounds to me like you've been burned but why are you rippin the new staff?  it's only been one game and you're canning them!?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 13, 2006, 01:04:16 PM
Everyone is on Langstons jock because he is a great player.  He is a dominate force on the field and an extrememly hard worker off the field.  Bluphi is right he had far more of an impact on the game than the stats show, plus they won!  Who do you think is more deserving?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 13, 2006, 01:19:24 PM
Curfalum-

Damn, I agree with BluPhi, what's your problem?

The truth is they are in better shape than with Hynes or Conwell, the numbers speak for themselves.  At least they have the first important part down to rebuilding a team, getting players to the school.  The 2nd part is making them stay, which has been the issue there the in past years. 

You can get quality players from Lutheran high schools, I bet CUWs team is made up mostly of players who went to Lutheran high schools, (and if not then I apologize).  All 10 Concordias are all Lutheran private universities and most of the students come from private Lutheran schools.  Look what CUW has done thus far, it can be done getting quality players from private high schools.  Now, you just need to be able to find the quality ones, that was conwells big issue. 

Anyhow, I am not saying CUC will win 9 games, but give them a chance, it's early in the year, plus they have 1 more win already then last year, IT'S A START!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on September 13, 2006, 02:11:43 PM
just so i can make my self clear......I DO think ol and dl should get player of the week honors...i just think this langston kid is getting way to much props..people make him out o be a superstar!!! think about it if he was really that good why is he at d3...PEOPLE NEED TO GET OF HIS JOCK!!!!!! PERIOD screw what aynone says about being a hard worker bc when you say that you are just short changing everyone in the conference who work hard tooo!! I am justg saying give everyone a fair shot and...bobby wasnt that best player in th conference last year on both sides of the ball nor is he this year!!! did i hear any honors he received beside the "politic IBFC awards" did he get an all region or all american award last year or pre season this year!!! I dont think soo....So when youy say he is a hard worker and all these opinons, you guys are just short changing everyone!!! All i ask...IS GIVE EVERYONE A FAIR SHOT!!! STOP JOGGIN THIS KIDS JOCK!!! Again.....He is good but not THAT GOOD!! Sorry to burst some peoples bubble!! the real season starts now good luck gentlemen.... LAKE MARY OUT....KEEP IT UP #9
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 13, 2006, 03:01:57 PM
reeno

i guess you wasn't around when a few of us agreed to cease the direct name calling.  anyhow i don't know anything about the kid but i am aware that stats don't always tell the whole story.  for example, a fullback of BU  last year made all conference and he didn't have 1000yds rushing.  when i was playing that was one of many criterias a player had to meet before even getting nominated ! i ain't joking but that's the way it was and that was a political push.  it is what it is..... 

apparently you're not aware of the current world.  everything is political

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 13, 2006, 03:43:38 PM
BluPhi-

Just for a point of discussion - FB are blockers, receivers and ball carriers - so if the BU FB got honors it had to do with his ability to excel in each of those areas. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BluPhi35 on September 13, 2006, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on September 13, 2006, 03:43:38 PM
BluPhi-

Just for a point of discussion - FB are blockers, receivers and ball carriers - so if the BU FB got honors it had to do with his ability to excel in each of those areas. 

i wasn't saying i'm not in agreement but that's what took place.  i'm not questioning his worthiness of the honors.  God bless him and many more.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 13, 2006, 03:53:12 PM
BluPhi-

No harm no foul
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 13, 2006, 05:44:17 PM
Just a tid bit on the BU FB from last year.  He is one of my good friends and I know he wont really care that I say this because I always razzed him about it.  He couldnt bench 185 more than 3 times,  however he could squat a little bit, but was coming off a knee injury his junior year so hadn't done much lifting at all.  He was all conference because of all the aforementioned reasons and because he was a tough tackle (just ask the safety from Aurora).  I know that wasnt the purpose of your post about all conference but there are naturally born football players that are just good.  Its not about yards, or atleast it shouldnt be.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 13, 2006, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: bufan on September 13, 2006, 05:44:17 PM
Just a tid bit on the BU FB from last year.  He is one of my good friends and I know he wont really care that I say this because I always razzed him about it.  He couldnt bench 185 more than 3 times,  however he could squat a little bit, but was coming off a knee injury his junior year so hadn't done much lifting at all.  He was all conference because of all the aforementioned reasons and because he was a tough tackle (just ask the safety from Aurora).  I know that wasnt the purpose of your post about all conference but there are naturally born football players that are just good.  Its not about yards, or atleast it shouldnt be.

hey bufan...............Who won that game and what was the score?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 13, 2006, 07:34:37 PM
langston was an all region player last year...I am not sure with what source be it d3football.com or any others....people work hard in this conference no doubt....but i promise this no one that has worked harder than bobby and no one will give more of themself than bobby....he applied pressure on an all american qb and never stopped harrassing the man....reeno i know you are upset bc you love your LB friend at MAC...but he isnt langston...hell there isnt a person that is a better MAN than langston...he is the type of guy you want your kids to grow up and be like ...hard working, honest, great student, great athlete...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2006, 07:39:06 PM
Langston was not on our All-Region team, but he would have had a shot if his school had nominated him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 13, 2006, 08:04:07 PM
I apparently struck a nerve with fatal impact.  My point had nothing do with scorebaords and such.  They were talking all conference and i simply added that he was a tough tackle and that hit was one i remember the most because that safety was apparently a very good one.  No reason to take offense, I didnt mean to rag on anybody, and i seriously think that safety would tell u the truth about that hit.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 13, 2006, 08:08:11 PM
Fatalimpact

Are you the safety? And if you answered yes, did you change your D3football.com screen name after that collision?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 13, 2006, 08:11:27 PM
thanks pat...I know he was with at least one source...I am not sure which one...I will get on the SID about nominating some people...Rick hutchins had 8 or 9 ints last year...would he have had a shot at all region?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 13, 2006, 10:33:12 PM
I ain't that safety, but I was at the game.....you make it seem like he laid out the safety on every play.........I am not saying that he wasnt a good player.....But he trounced pretty much no one.......he was pretty agile though......Didnt he play both ways?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 13, 2006, 10:39:27 PM
Reeno, Bobby Langston is by far the most dominate player on the defensive side of the ball this year, Quit frankly he may be a NFL prospect with his size and dominace, just because he had only four takles and 2 sacks tells me that this ranked team they played ran the other way. I personaly think he is the best the IBFC has this year not to say that there are not others deserving for there efforts. He will be the player of the year at the end I called this way back in Jan. I have no reason to pick him other than that he is the best!!!!!. Besides, you can't say that because he is playing D3 he is not worthy. Ryan played DII his first year and Dominated the IBFC when he transfered and had his opportunities. of course his OL was responsible for his award. He clearly admitted that, you yourself should have played at the DII level, my feeling is you dominated at receiver because you played D3 and not DII. There are some very good D3 players out there including your St. Mary boy.. Mark my words Langston is the real deal. Just MADDOGS, opinion.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 14, 2006, 12:14:13 AM
Quote from: curfalum1 on September 13, 2006, 11:08:04 AM
It appears that the coaching machine of CURF met their match.  Beating the Beavers was NOT a great victory.  CURF acted like they won the Superbowl.  For all you Coach Conwell bashers you deserve what you get.  CURF is going to struggle this year.  The program is in bad shape and some small time high school coach is not going to bring it back.  Coach Hynes was a main reason for the demise of the program.  Recruit all the Lutherans you want, play games w/ the players, be buddy w/ the kids.  What you need to do is recruit quality players and not take any advice form Jeff Hynes.  I am afraid you will lose more games like Saturday - enjoy!
Quote from: baseman201 on September 13, 2006, 01:19:24 PM
Curfalum-

Damn, I agree with BluPhi, what's your problem?

The truth is they are in better shape than with Hynes or Conwell, the numbers speak for themselves.  At least they have the first important part down to rebuilding a team, getting players to the school.  The 2nd part is making them stay, which has been the issue there the in past years. 

You can get quality players from Lutheran high schools, I bet CUWs team is made up mostly of players who went to Lutheran high schools, (and if not then I apologize).  All 10 Concordias are all Lutheran private universities and most of the students come from private Lutheran schools.  Look what CUW has done thus far, it can be done getting quality players from private high schools.  Now, you just need to be able to find the quality ones, that was conwells big issue. 

Anyhow, I am not saying CUC will win 9 games, but give them a chance, it's early in the year, plus they have 1 more win already then last year, IT'S A START!!!!!



Curfalum and Baseman,

Curfalum you need to relax...where you just sitting at home waiting for the team to lose. Hynes did a great job and moved on. He did cause a truck load of problems when he left. Conwell is a great coach, just not a head Coach. Coach Pries is a breat of fresh air. the freshist, being a High School Coach. Let us not forget that the team was 0-20 with conwell. you can not be a coach with that record. I dont care what the reason is. You have to look at it as a buisness. no school is going to stick with a coach for more than two years winnless. you make no gains from that. Pries got some players. good ones? maybe...maybe not but he got the numbers to start something. he came to a team with 18 player who have lost every game. 5 of fewer remember winning A game in College. Now they have the making of some Tradition. "Rome was not built in a DAY! or two games into the season.

Baseman, CUW has talent and mostly from out of state. Look at the roster. Alot to the guys are from Florda. that takes money and that is what CUW has put in to program. recruting is only as good as the school lets it be. CUC is just starting to see that. But CUW has been doing it for a long time. Luthern or not, players go to good teams. CUW wins some and they will get better every year. you dont get blue chips for 0-10 season. Both you and Curfalum should know that!


Give CUC a chace, Love them and Support them, This is mainly for Curf alum.
Baseman I know you love em and support em!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 14, 2006, 01:04:34 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on September 13, 2006, 10:39:27 PM
Reeno, Bobby Langston is by far the most dominate player on the defensive side of the ball this year, Quit frankly he may be a NFL prospect with his size and dominace, just because he had only four takles and 2 sacks tells me that this ranked team they played ran the other way. I personaly think he is the best the IBFC has this year not to say that there are not others deserving for there efforts. He will be the player of the year at the end I called this way back in Jan. I have no reason to pick him other than that he is the best!!!!!. Besides, you can't say that because he is playing D3 he is not worthy. Ryan played DII his first year and Dominated the IBFC when he transfered and had his opportunities. of course his OL was responsible for his award. He clearly admitted that, you yourself should have played at the DII level, my feeling is you dominated at receiver because you played D3 and not DII. There are some very good D3 players out there including your St. Mary boy.. Mark my words Langston is the real deal. Just MADDOGS, opinion.

Now maddog dont take this the wrong way....your son only "dominated" his senior season, Unless he was a recent transfer for just his senior season....which I'm almost positive he wasnt (my apologies if I'm worong), but this was their first outright conference championship, with CUW winning it the year before....(though not out right) Aurora won it the year before that (by only dropping one game to your muskies by one point thanks to the kicker) so thats not really domination......Not to take anything away from Ryan he is a phenomanal athlete
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2006, 08:33:30 AM
  To all you CUC fans out there: I congratulate CUC on it`s victory as they
   have long been the door-mat in the IBC. I`ve said in the past they (CUC)
   show up every week ready to play. That`s hard to do when your getting
    pasted but they do it. My hat is off to the players (past and present) who
    have played for  CUC.    ....................Con,Ill.
    The experience of playing college ball will long out live the losses, along
     with the memories and friendships but the fact remains that CUC is not
     very good.
    Div-3, "Around the Nation" had them listed as the 228th ranked team in all of D-3 and there are what, 230 plus or minus teams over-all?
    This is not intended to diminish their victory but rather to keep it in
    perspective.
     A winning streak streaks starts with(1). Good luck to them .

       
   
     
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2006, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2006, 07:39:06 PM
Langston was not on our All-Region team, but he would have had a shot if his school had nominated him.

  There is no doubt in my mind that more than a "few" guys have missed out on "recognition" of some kind or other  thru out the years due to the
  lack of  ATTENTION to DETAILS by some SID`s in the IBC. 
  You only get one bite at the apple. Too bad "others " have control.
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2006, 09:01:40 AM
 Maddog:
   
     Hey Mel, No wonder your in good form........ the Yankees are in first place
      in the East, now to take the smile of your face.........LC gets the "L".
    After last weeks game ( i should know better than listen to you) i`m
   going with a sure thing. 
     

     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2006, 10:53:02 AM
  Picks for the week-end of Sept 16th.
   Gomer likes................
     (1) Bu vs  North Central.............North Central gets the "W"
     (2)  CUC  vs  Rose-Hulman.............Rose Hulman gets the :W"
     (3) CUW  vs Wis Luthern..............CUW gets the "W"
     (4) Eureka vs Noth Park...........Eureka gets the "W"
      (5)  Greenville vs Taylor...............Greenville gets the "W"
      (6) LC  vs Oshkosh.......Oshkosh gets the "W"
     * (7) Mac: I know they have a bye this week and that`s a good thing as
      their Total Offense, "average per play"( as of 9/11)  is just ...............2
      yds.  Plus it looks like they have a QB by commitee going on. 
       Mac may be in for a long season. IMO.
     
       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 14, 2006, 12:08:55 PM
Fatal, no he did not play both ways.  He didnt start becoming noticed until conference really cause we didnt change the offense to that style until about week 3/4.  He ran that offense in high school so he was pretty  accustomed to it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 14, 2006, 02:26:33 PM
I don't know who it was but someone said that if they were such a good athlete then why are they playing in D-III.

This may not happen often but there are a small handful of D-III players who could play D-I but maybe they decide not to.  At a D-I school so much work goes into football they really have no time for anything else, it's 24/7 all year round football.  Not saying it's not like that at some D-III schools but most D-I players have dreams of being in the NFL.  About 2 or 3 D-III players will sign free agent contracts and most of the time will get cut or be on the practice squad (Blake Elliott St. Johns) then get cut.  Anyhow, the point is maybe some of the talented ones don't want to play in those D-I schools and want to have time for other things.  They want to play at the D-III level because it's a little more layed back and the competition isn't so great. 

Also, there was D-I talent in D-III last year, does Brett Elliot ring a bell?  He beat out Alex Smith at Utah before he had his injury problems and transferred in to Linfield.  If he is good enough to beat out Alex Smith who was a first round pick......think about it. 

Maddog you say the D Lineman (not using his name) from CUW is an NFL prospect?  Maybe he looks good because he is playing D-III schools, how do you think he would do  at USC, Texas or any D-I A school for that matter?  Probably wouldn't even start as a senior.  This is why D-III is so great, the majority of the players aren't talented enough or just don't want to spend all their lives dedicated to football at the D-I level.  If they really had the talent and wanted to play D-I football they would be there. 

And if a player had dreams of being in the NFL they certainly wouldn't attend a D-III school.

Now don't misunderstand me, a few D-III players do sign NFL contracts each year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 14, 2006, 03:20:32 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 14, 2006, 02:26:33 PM
I don't know who it was but someone said that if they were such a good athlete then why are they playing in D-III.

This may not happen often but there are a small handful of D-III players who could play D-I but maybe they decide not to.  At a D-I school so much work goes into football they really have no time for anything else, it's 24/7 all year round football.  Not saying it's not like that at some D-III schools but most D-I players have dreams of being in the NFL.  About 2 or 3 D-III players will sign free agent contracts and most of the time will get cut or be on the practice squad (Blake Elliott St. Johns) then get cut.  Anyhow, the point is maybe some of the talented ones don't want to play in those D-I schools and want to have time for other things.  They want to play at the D-III level because it's a little more layed back and the competition isn't so great. 

Also, there was D-I talent in D-III last year, does Brett Elliot ring a bell?  He beat out Alex Smith at Utah before he had his injury problems and transferred in to Linfield.  If he is good enough to beat out Alex Smith who was a first round pick......think about it. 

Maddog you say the D Lineman (not using his name) from CUW is an NFL prospect?  Maybe he looks good because he is playing D-III schools, how do you think he would do  at USC, Texas or any D-I A school for that matter?  Probably wouldn't even start as a senior.  This is why D-III is so great, the majority of the players aren't talented enough or just don't want to spend all their lives dedicated to football at the D-I level.  If they really had the talent and wanted to play D-I football they would be there. 

And if a player had dreams of being in the NFL they certainly wouldn't attend a D-III school.

Now don't misunderstand me, a few D-III players do sign NFL contracts each year.


Just to add baseman,

reasons for a "possible" d1 in d3 could be more. An injury in high school, I know that my tackle in High School was a D1 prospect and now goes to loyola (No football!) broken leg in first game of the year. If there is lesser of and injury that could cause scouts to overlook or give up on. plus, self-ish ego's could play into. Bad attitudes, and just plain being overlooked or not knowing how good one self is could all be reason for D1 in D3!!


Off topic.
Lets go Coug's. they will be well rested and hungry for a win and also revenge (3erd time playing them!)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 14, 2006, 07:50:36 PM
Forgive me but Pat Curian played 14 yrs for the SD Chargers, grad from Lakeland, Pete Metzallar one the NFL's best TE's played D3 and the list has more so please don't say that D 3 players don't play in the NFL. Maybe not many but then again about 10 yrs ago neither did DII players get NFL opportunities, today about 1/6 of the NFL players are from DII schools. Its about having HEART and TALENT, Langston has both, besides some players don't mature in high school as fast as others Langston could easily play D-1 football.

Gomer Lakeland will prevail this weekend and you will eat donkey s--t for your lam words
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 15, 2006, 12:34:06 AM
yeah, but how long ago was that Maddog?

Todd Black who played for CURF back in the early to mid 80s played for the Chicago Bears for a couple seasons as well.

I am not saying it's not done, just saying it is rare to have D-III players in the NFL.  And yes, there are some D-II players who are tearing up the NFL.

And who is donthate, Langston?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 15, 2006, 08:47:25 AM
Well apperently it doesn't matter anymore since he took down his post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Tini on September 15, 2006, 08:57:35 AM
Reeno10 - There is a lot of football talent in D3 football.  I myself played with three D1 caliber players.  One played at Purdue and didn't like it.  Another started at Indiana and tore his ACL.  The third was getting looked at by Penn State but was not offered a scholarship because he was two inches too short.  Other players, myself included, were never looked at by big programs because we are from very small communities.  There are a lot of reasons why a player may not be in D1, but don't downplay Langstons ability just because he is a D3 player.  Langston is a very good athelete and he controls the line of scrimmage.  He is a D-lineman, he isn't supposed to make 100 tackles in a year.  It's not his job.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 15, 2006, 09:24:47 AM
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Why are we making a big deal about this guy Langston, If he is so good, GO D-I!! I really don't get it. I am betting that when he plays video games he puts it on the easiest setting just to win and beat up on the computer. Here is my Question to all the poster.

IF ANY OF YOU COULD GO D-1 FOR FREE WHY WOULD YOU NOT?

I really cant think of any reason.


If I had the chance to go to any D-I school i would go. even if i just got one offer or not even a full ride but partial it would be hard for me to say no. What is langstons major. Is it one only found at that school? I highly doubt it. If you got the talent you put it up against all the rest. You don't pick on D-3 schools. If donhate is Langston. Congrats you are awsome. But show your stuff to ND, MSU, or even NIU and they will eat you up. You are awsome in D-3 but that is not showing anyone anything.

Once again IF YOU ARE D-1 WHY PLAY D-3?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 15, 2006, 11:22:05 AM
No one ever claimed he was D-1 they just said there are players like that.   Do I sense a little hostility because he probably beat up on you at some point :o?  He is one of my very good friends and came to CUW for a few reasons.  At no point has he built himself up on here (when he has the right to) so ya'll should really stop attacking him. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 15, 2006, 11:28:44 AM
  Maddog:
     Hey, Mel
     You better hope they (LC) wins cause you know i`ll be checking the
       Scoreboard.
     And then you said," you can eat donkey s- - t for your lam words."  :D
     In my dictionary, LAM means to beat,thrash.
     The other LAM: on the lam, escaping fleeing or hiding.
     I`m thinking you ment LAME, makes more sence.  Even for you.
     I know your not going to "thrash" anybody, gentleman don`t do that.
     On the other hand you may want to"HIDE" if your Lakeland team
     gets thumped again this week-end.
      I know,i know...getting pummeled by superior teams the last couple of games will make Lakeland a much better team. And then there is this week-end, more experience is on the way. 
    Your team will be 0-3 but have lots of experience. Looks like running the table (10-0)will not happen this year.
     When  lakeland plays CUW..........It will be a good game but your LC
      team is going down. ;D
   
   

     
     
     
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 15, 2006, 12:56:32 PM
Of course you would think that someone with the skills and the ability not to mention the financial reasons would pick D-1 if they had a choice. I do think their are players in D3 that have D-1 potential and maybe NFL potential.  Greenville's quarterback last season, Lee Thompson was a redshirt freshman for Colorado State right out of high school.  There was a lineman for Greenville also I think last year that was made an offer out of high school to Ohio State but certain problems kept him out.  Some people just want to play football because they know they can and go to school and get done. My cousin was offered a full ride to University of Illinois and we were all like sweet that's awesome, but he didn't want to play anymore, he was done. He instead chose to join the ARMY and is an electrial engineer with SBC. I was offered a full-ride for baseball to a great D-1AA school and turned it down, because I was done with the game. I love the game but was just done. Some people want the NFL and some people want to be CEO of an NFL team. It's cool either way.

I think these games Lakeland is playing against these tough teams will help them overall. But I'm telling you like I said last year when CUW and Lakeland played Greenville and expected a blow out it wasnt. Greenville lost to CUW 19-14 and Lakeland 20-13. GC lost really nobody this year and Dom Kegal (QB) is a sprinter. These games are going to be tough. Good luck to everyone this Saturday!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 15, 2006, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on September 15, 2006, 12:56:32 PM
Of course you would think that someone with the skills and the ability not to mention the financial reasons would pick D-1 if they had a choice. I do think their are players in D3 that have D-1 potential and maybe NFL potential.  Greenville's quarterback last season, Lee Thompson was a redshirt freshman for Colorado State right out of high school.  There was a lineman for Greenville also I think last year that was made an offer out of high school to Ohio State but certain problems kept him out.  Some people just want to play football because they know they can and go to school and get done. My cousin was offered a full ride to University of Illinois and we were all like sweet that's awesome, but he didn't want to play anymore, he was done. He instead chose to join the ARMY and is an electrial engineer with SBC. I was offered a full-ride for baseball to a great D-1AA school and turned it down, because I was done with the game. I love the game but was just done. Some people want the NFL and some people want to be CEO of an NFL team. It's cool either way.

I think these games Lakeland is playing against these tough teams will help them overall. But I'm telling you like I said last year when CUW and Lakeland played Greenville and expected a blow out it wasnt. Greenville lost to CUW 19-14 and Lakeland 20-13. GC lost really nobody this year and Dom Kegal (QB) is a sprinter. These games are going to be tough. Good luck to everyone this Saturday!!!


TruCountry:
Re: the DIII/DI topic above - well said.  Everyone has to make their own decision as to what is best for them in such situations.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Tini on September 15, 2006, 02:03:56 PM
I agree.  Most people might think that D1 is the obvious choice, but some people just don't want that.  I could have gone D1 myself but chose D3 because it is less of a job and I could be a two sport athlete.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 15, 2006, 06:16:26 PM
I don't buy the 2 inches too short excuse, depending on his position.  Steve Smith is 5'9-5'10, many starting DBs are around 5'10, Daunte Hall is only 5'8.  Darren Sproles is around 5'6.

So the being too short excuse cannot be used.  Also the small community excuse is bull too because think about how many badass players come out of the small towns of Texas.  but the other excuses are valid whether it be getting hurt or just not wanting to play at the D-I level.

Anyhow, good luck to all teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nccsports891 on September 15, 2006, 10:30:33 PM
Tune into WONC 89.1 FM or www.wonc.org for the North Central/Benedictine matchup tomorrow night at 7 pm. Pregame show at 6:30 which will include an interview with freshman RB Dominic Sulo.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on September 16, 2006, 02:24:28 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 15, 2006, 06:16:26 PM
I don't buy the 2 inches too short excuse, depending on his position.  Steve Smith is 5'9-5'10, many starting DBs are around 5'10, Daunte Hall is only 5'8.  Darren Sproles is around 5'6.

So the being too short excuse cannot be used.  Also the small community excuse is bull too because think about how many badass players come out of the small towns of Texas.  but the other excuses are valid whether it be getting hurt or just not wanting to play at the D-I level.

Anyhow, good luck to all teams this weekend.


The truth of the matter is that DI schools can be that picky.  I had a friend right out of high school who was talked to by Ohio State but then got turned down because he was 1/2 an inch under 6' 3".  That is just the nature of the beast I guess but when you have the choice of any athletes you want in the country you can do that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 16, 2006, 09:58:45 AM
GOOD LUCK TO ALL IBFC TEAMS THIS WEEKEND "GO MUSKIES", Gomer your such a GEEK. Srgt Carter would be pissed at the way your taking about his Lakeland team,  I know deep down you really want the Muskies to prevail, You know I'm right.  I feel Wilk will have a great game as will White and Royal. You'll hear about the pain train today too. Kick but Wag!!!

Gommer I still dig you man, Geeks need friends too.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 16, 2006, 10:02:51 AM
Here are the players of the week Defense Langston, yes I realize there are 3/4 hours before game time.. Wilk Offensive player of week,  LB of week Are St. Mary boy from Mac. Rec. White from Lakeland, Ol of week Homer from Lakeland, RB Gilleppssee from CUW (sorry dude for the spelling but u know who u are) great job guys. Good luck to all others.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 16, 2006, 06:08:59 PM
  Maddog:
      Hey Mel, talking about the "pain train"  i just saw where Oshkosh lite you guys up to the tune of 31-10. 
    Your boys,oops excuse me, your "PAIN TRAIN" boys got taken to the cleaners, on your own field i might add. Hey you got thumped but look at all
   the experience you got. ;D ;D 
   One other thing a bucket of farm fresh Donkey S---T is being shipped to your house monday morning........BON APPETIT!!  I hear it goods well with
  CROW.
    As you said," Gomer your such a Geek."   That`s  one of the nicer things i`ve been called. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 16, 2006, 10:46:21 PM
Congrats CUW on another win keep up the good work!

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 17, 2006, 09:16:13 AM
 How did the IBC fair yesterday?
   (1) BU vs North Central:  NC whipped up on BU to the tune of 38-ZIP.
   (2) CU Chicago vs  R-Hulman: R-H thrashed CUC.........56-0.
   (3)  CUW vs Wis Luthern: CUW rolled. 39-0.
   (4)  Eureka vs North Park:  North Park to much for Eureka. Loses 34-6.
   (5)  Greenville vs Taylor: The NAIA school wins 13-0.
   (6)  LC vs Oshkosh:  more experience for LC. They got the "L" in the
     process.
   Only one winner this week, ( Con U,Wis.)   Looks like those boys are on an early roll.  Plus, they should move up in the "also got votes" section of the D-3 Top 25.
   It`s way early yet but i`m taking CUW to take the IBC crown.  Looks like they already have the "experience" needed to finish on top as opposed to
   another club that seems to never get enough experience.
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 17, 2006, 08:17:42 PM
aaron gillespie...what an amazing football player...had over 200 yds and 3 tds...front runner for player of the year in the conference....could have had 300 yds and as many tds as he wanted...cuw trying out new things offensively to become even more dynamic
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 18, 2006, 03:43:08 AM
Outrage in CUW land.

They lose two points in the top 25 voting and receive one less vote than North Central.

Balderdash!!! :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 18, 2006, 08:50:20 AM
How in heck does that happen?

I think it all comes back to CUW being in the IBC.  They know it's a weak conference, although they haven't even started playing conference games yet........hmmmm, that seems a little unfair to CUW.

Something fishy is going on here............
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2006, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on September 18, 2006, 03:43:08 AM
Outrage in CUW land.

They lose two points in the top 25 voting and receive one less vote than North Central.

Balderdash!!! :o

Could it be because North Central knocked off Benedictine (a team with a better overall record than WLC?) Just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 18, 2006, 11:32:32 AM
no one wants to talk about the woodshed beatting of CUC on Sat. at RHIT....It seems the team that was so loud two weeks ago is very quiet. I dont blam them with a running game of 25 yards on 26 carries all day. RHIT looked like Conf. champs and put up the stats to show it
"The Engineers recorded their first shutout since 2002, and their largest margin of victory since 1958. Concordia has been held scoreless in their last two games following a week one win over Blackburn College, 13-3."
-- taken from cuchaicago.edu

but the hard truth is that the team wont even make 3rd place in the Conf. they play at. Hopefully some of the ego's on the team have had a long sunday and monday to think about reality. Word is that there are a lot of "injured" players if you catch my drift. And if coach Pries is the Coach I imagined he would be the "injured" players will be delt with with a strong fist.

Conf. play starts and what better team the start with then the eagles. former coach, rivilry, team in same boat(sort of), and local team. I feel that this is going to be a game to watch, much like last year. I think CUC wins and builds some confidence, not cockyness for the following weeks. But it will not be easy, they drop  this one and it will be a longs season as a cougar.


And to add about CUW and the point system. This will happen to IBC for a long time as long as IBC plays weeks where only one team wins and the rest get beat badly.




Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 18, 2006, 01:06:39 PM
With regards to the polls and CUW/NC

I wouldn't worry about the polls and Top 25  votes/ who stands where.  The fact remains, that CUW beat NC on their home turf, and have the knowledge and esteem that they can beat a quality team in NC.  If they were to meet again in the playoffs, CUW knows how to beat them... since they already did it once.
IMO, I am not a big fan of polls, rankings, etc.  Sure it is nice to see your school in the rankings,  however a poll is just that-- somebody's opinion.

I think the utmost importance is getting your team into the playoffs by winning your conference games.  If you don't play well and win your conference games, then all the polls/rankings/ and what not  doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 18, 2006, 03:52:35 PM
   CU-W  may have lost points but in week 2 they where 39th and in week 3 there`re still 39th............  In the Top 25 in D-3.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 18, 2006, 11:50:52 PM
CUW shouldnt be focusing on rank who cares those are just numbers....carthage was on there preseason and after the first couple weeks....they feel off because the numbers just dont matter....cuz anything can happen on any given day.........Thoughts on this upcoming week?

AU beats Mac
LC beats Greenville (though I think this one will be close)
BU over CUC (another close one)
CUW beats Eureka
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 19, 2006, 12:35:49 AM
Cougs Will Win!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 19, 2006, 10:42:27 AM
Predications for conference saturday.........

CUW vs Eureka (CUW wins 49-7)
Benedictine vs CUC (BU wins 33-12)
Aurora vs MacMurray (AU wins 27-6)
Lakeland vs Greenville (Greenville wins 23-14)

GC has the defense to beat Lakeland, but their offense is going to have to produce right from the start. If GC can get on the board early and shut down Lakeland early then GC get's the "W".  LC won last year by 7 and that's win they had "super team" and was picked to win by 5 TD's from Maddog.  Hope GC can get the win. Good luck to the othe IBC teams this Saturday.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on September 19, 2006, 01:08:57 PM
Better showing for CUW in the AFCA poll.

http://www.afca.com/lev3.cfm/1145
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 19, 2006, 02:03:07 PM
CUW over Eureka 0  With the shutout Whether or not they come out for the sencond half. 

CUC over Bendictine In a hardfought game.

AU over Mac by 14

Greenville over LC by 3
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 19, 2006, 02:32:40 PM
  To all you guys who think Greenville will take Lakeland this saturday, you just know Maddog (aka, Mel Allen) is spitting nails. 
   For his beloved Lake-etts to be projected losers i`m sure will bring a
   bombastic retort to the contrary.

     He`ll tell all that his team, laden with NFL talent,..............Oops, sorry Mel
    didn`t mean to steal your thunder.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 19, 2006, 03:18:33 PM
Why doesn't somebody who is a major poster on the IBFC board, start up an IBFC pick em's board with the other conferences?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 20, 2006, 12:16:44 AM
BU 34- CUC 6: CUC has won 6 games in the last 7 years.

AU 21- Mac 10: Aurora has the best conference winning percentage since 1999(41-8)

CUW 88- EC 0: i have no reason why this game should not be hideuos. CUW beat NCC by 6, who beat BU by 38, and BU beat NP by 16, who killed EC by 28...so due to this simple math, its clear that this will be the score.


LC 28- GC 17: Lakeland is 20-15 at home since 1999.

Yes i am a loser and looked these things up.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Bigg_Smack on September 20, 2006, 12:40:46 AM
Quote from: bufan on September 20, 2006, 12:16:44 AM

CUW 88- EC 0: i have no reason why this game should not be hideuos. CUW beat NCC by 6, who beat BU by 38, and BU beat NP by 16, who killed EC by 28...so due to this simple math, its clear that this will be the score.


Yes i am a loser and looked these things up.



yeah the CUW-EC game should be very lopsided. Better hope the CUW boys are road weary. I heard EC finished their game against NPU with about 5 or 6 new injuries. Anyone know if any those are serious, and if they were key players? Also, NPU looked pretty good, even if it was just Eureka that they were playing. They might steal one or two in their conf. with their new found running game and their new coaching staff. Kudos to NP fullback, #37 he looked like a beast out there. I hope, for the sake of their season that he keeps up the physical play.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 20, 2006, 07:48:49 AM
  Con (Wis) got some "ink" on the front page of the D-3 site.
     Always good to see a IBC team get recognition on the "BIG SITE."
   Looks like the boys from CUW have got the train moving in the right direction. Good luck to them.

  bufan:  nice work.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 20, 2006, 08:01:52 PM
BU over CUC by 28?

Don't think so, will be the best game of the weekend, with one of the teams winning by 3-7 pts.

And yeah, sweet picture on the front of D3football.com

See, the IBC is getting noticed and if anything it gets Concordias name out there, which is a good thing for the 10 Concordias around the nation.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 20, 2006, 08:18:25 PM
When the IBC wins a playoff game, that will also help spread the positive word(s) about the schools in this conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 21, 2006, 04:18:12 AM
To everyone If and only IF Lakelands OL shows up for the game then Lakeland will win by 3 TD's otherwise GC will get the win. I'm not sold on there line this yr. In yrs past there line dominated the other teams in the conference. From the looks of things this yr. and I haven't been to a game yet. Wilk and the running backs, not to mention the receivers are THE ONLY ones on the field. Fans tell me Wilk is running or his life, SOME PROTECTION. Maybe just maybe they will show up against a GC team, just maybe. It really is sad compared to the past. My only problem is I thought they would be better with the talent they have or maybe I should say had. I guess this is what seperates the MEN from the boys. Hopefully for Wilk they decide to show up SAT!!!!!.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 21, 2006, 08:07:02 AM
  Gomers Picks for Saturday, 9/23.

   (1) AU vs Mac.......  Mac  will win only if AU doesn`t show up.
   (2)  CU Chicago vs Bu....... BU just a tad bit better.
    (3)  CU-W vs Eureka......  Some what of a practice game for CU-W.
   (4)  Greenville vs LC.....   If Maddog has doubts, you know i`m picking
   Greenville.  Just kidding, i was taking Greenville anyway. GC can make a
    statement  about their program with a win. They came close last year
    when LC had all that NFL talent (as some have said) so i think GC
    believes it can get the job done and will.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 21, 2006, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on November 05, 2005, 09:15:27 AM
Trucountry95, I do agree that Greenville is on the rise but rest asure LAKELAND comes in and walks out without an issue. Greenville is not at their level just yet. Lakeland by 5 TD's. Can't make the game so let me know how close I was. Had to work today unfortunately, otherwise I would have drove from Detroit down there.


Maddog last conversation we had you picked them by 5 TD's! This time it's only 3 TD's!  Lakeland one last year by what ???? 7 points? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on September 21, 2006, 01:48:26 PM
picks for the week

AU over Mac (6-3) all FG's
BU over CUC (10-7)
CUW over EC (56-0)
G'viile over LC (24-14)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 21, 2006, 11:40:49 PM
BU and CUC will indeed be the best game this week in the IBC. I think CUC wins this one but it will be a close one!!!!!!.

Just because the O on CUC has done NOTHING the last two games means NOTHING when it come to the BU CUC game. in the past the teams have been the worst in the IBC and now they are both fighting for better spots. BU has gotten better year to year and CUC should have gotten better aswell but this is the year that CUC repays BU for the past two season. I am looking forward to loosing my voice at the game cheering CUC and heckling BU. I cant wait.!!!

Go Cougars!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 21, 2006, 11:46:46 PM
"There is one other ingredient he has thrown into his winning stew, a bunch of hungry seniors who want to gobble up wins in their last seasonal football meal. Gabrielsen said he has over 20 seniors who have been with the programs for four years. He said that leadership came in handy when Concordia lost its 17-point lead to North Central and had to fight to keep the win against the Cardinals. He said the seniors have provided the strength of leadership a coach just can't teach younger players."- taken from D3football.com

One day CUC will have 20 seniors. Just you wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and then we will be on D3's front page!!!!!!!!!winning Conf. and Playoff games!!!!!!!

and it all starts this sat. at BU!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on September 22, 2006, 09:22:27 AM
My Picks

BU 30  CUC 0   Sorry CUC, your a bad team and will continue to be bad team. 
AU 10    Mac 7  If you like defense this is a game for you.
CUW 76  EC 0   Will EC come out for the second half!??!  4-1 They will not.
GC 22  LC 19    Game of the week.  Greenville is my upset special.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on September 22, 2006, 10:36:19 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on September 21, 2006, 04:18:12 AM
To everyone If and only IF Lakelands OL shows up for the game then Lakeland will win by 3 TD's otherwise GC will get the win. I'm not sold on there line this yr. In yrs past there line dominated the other teams in the conference. From the looks of things this yr. and I haven't been to a game yet. Wilk and the running backs, not to mention the receivers are THE ONLY ones on the field. Fans tell me Wilk is running or his life, SOME PROTECTION. Maybe just maybe they will show up against a GC team, just maybe. It really is sad compared to the past. My only problem is I thought they would be better with the talent they have or maybe I should say had. I guess this is what seperates the MEN from the boys. Hopefully for Wilk they decide to show up SAT!!!!!.

Not sure where you are getting your info, but i saw the Oshkosh game and in my view Lakeland's o-line is pretty darn solid. UWO was supposed to be one of the top d-lines in the WIAC and Lakeland more than held its own. Lakeland's QB is usually given plenty of time to throw. So this notion that Lakeland's o-line is a weakness is, from my perspective, really way off.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 22, 2006, 11:40:49 AM
7400 West, ure living in a fantasy world. ure looking at another 1-9, 0-10 season.  Maybe you will beat Eureka
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 22, 2006, 01:47:27 PM
Because 3-7 is such an admirable record.  and I believe BU and CUC have hte same record at the moment.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 22, 2006, 11:24:27 PM
falcsfb, he said they will be on the front page, winning conference and playoff games.  thats called fantasy.  not even "one day," as he put it.  Im not comparing records here and i do understand he is being optomistic, but come on.  I dont even see lakeland, conc-wis, and aurora people putting those kind of statements up there, and rarely are they even on the front page.  I know he was just having fun, but I had to jump on it. i love you

bears 31, vikings 4
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 22, 2006, 11:29:02 PM
CUC vs. BU - CUC will pull it out against BU....I have this feeling
CUW vs. Eureka - CUWs starters only play 5 minutes
Greenville vs. LC - Greenville is the 2nd best team in Conference, so guess who I pick to win
AU vs. Mac - AU wins because Mac puts up -100 yards of unsportsmanlike penalties.....and AU is better

Greenville shouldn't be an upset Twisted, they are better than Lakeland.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 23, 2006, 07:03:09 AM
Bufan you need to relax. take a deep breath and watch how close the game is going to be in a few hours. BU and CUC for the past few years have fought for last place. Now both teams are up a comming. But BU has CUC's old coach and with that comes payback for some of the players on CUC for going 0-20 underhim. there are 5-8 seinors on the team now for CUC, ONE DAY THE TEAM WILL BE ON THE TOP OF GREATNESS. do you think that Mount Union just one day became unstoppable.....NO!!! they had people like me and baseman and cougarswillwin supporting them and encouraging them!!!!!!!that is why BU loses today= no support from the fan at their home field!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 23, 2006, 02:23:43 PM
Its homecoming, im not worried about support
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 23, 2006, 02:29:22 PM
and yes, i do think mount union was just unstoppable from the beginning.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 23, 2006, 02:30:21 PM
End of 1st Quarter   LAKELAND -7     GREENVILLE - 7     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on September 23, 2006, 03:17:21 PM
tru country
can you still listen to the game? we were listening and the game went off.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 23, 2006, 03:54:02 PM
no i was listenin to it too when it went off but now I'm just listenin at home!

2:19 left in the 3rd Quarter:            LAKELAND 21-   GREENVILLE-7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on September 23, 2006, 04:24:39 PM
thanks tru  keep us posted if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 23, 2006, 04:43:59 PM
END OF GAME         LAKELAND 28            GREENVILLE 13
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 23, 2006, 05:05:39 PM
  TruCountry95:

   If that is the correct final score of the LC vs  GC game i give all the props to GC.
   After all, some have said, GC would get a serious whipping(as much as 5 TD`s) by LC but in fact they showed that they are a good team on the rise and LC has seem  better days.

  I fully expect the resident "HOMER" to explain why they(LC) could only muster  28 points and allow 13 against that NFL D-line. 
  Sometimes i`m almost convinced by his rational.  NOT!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 23, 2006, 05:37:05 PM
Latest update, BU 27, CUC 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on September 23, 2006, 05:47:22 PM
Final  Mac 13 AU 27,

Mac's QB through 4 INT-1 TD. Mac did look good for awhile but then the true offense showed up and it was all down hill. Dont get me wrong, Mac did look good. That defense looks to be clicking. The offense though is the weak spot on the team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 23, 2006, 06:12:05 PM
CUC.......ouch

pains me to see that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on September 23, 2006, 06:44:22 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 23, 2006, 05:05:39 PM
  TruCountry95:

   If that is the correct final score of the LC vs  GC game i give all the props to GC.
   After all, some have said, GC would get a serious whipping(as much as 5 TD`s) by LC but in fact they showed that they are a good team on the rise and LC has seem  better days.

  I fully expect the resident "HOMER" to explain why they(LC) could only muster  28 points and allow 13 against that NFL D-line. 
  Sometimes i`m almost convinced by his rational.  NOT!

Actually, most people on this board picked Greenville to win today vs. Lakeland. Apparently Lakeland is a little better than people think. Oh, by the way maddog, the Lakeland o-line played well today, I am told. Maybe you inspired them to do better!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 23, 2006, 07:02:14 PM
  AU takes Mac...........With out their SR QB, to go along with no offense, Mac
   looks to be in for a long season of would-a, could-a, should-a`s.
   They had the horses once but they have long since left the barn.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on September 23, 2006, 09:07:17 PM
Quote from: 7400West on September 23, 2006, 07:03:09 AM
Bufan you need to relax. take a deep breath and watch how close the game is going to be in a few hours. BU and CUC for the past few years have fought for last place. Now both teams are up a comming. But BU has CUC's old coach and with that comes payback for some of the players on CUC for going 0-20 underhim. there are 5-8 seinors on the team now for CUC, ONE DAY THE TEAM WILL BE ON THE TOP OF GREATNESS. do you think that Mount Union just one day became unstoppable.....NO!!! they had people like me and baseman and cougarswillwin supporting them and encouraging them!!!!!!!that is why BU loses today= no support from the fan at their home field!

WOW!!  Comparing MU to CUC... that's reasonable.  Cheerleaders (cougarswillwin, 7400West, and baseman) do not win football games.  Athletes win football game.  Believe all you want your gonna get Monkey Stomped on the regular.

AU rolls!!  Sweet.  AU vs. Mac use to be for confrence every year.  My how the Highlanders have fallen from grace.  Is this a sign that the Spartans are back in contention for the title???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 23, 2006, 09:11:09 PM
well is is another wasted sat. I went to the game and got soaked. I got wet in places that should not get wet! and on top of that the cougars o was shut down becasue of the rain. I am not giving excuses but you cant run the spread when it is pouring out!!! well there tomarrow is another day and the cougars are looking to be like last year!!
Quote from: Twisted2 on September 23, 2006, 09:07:17 PM
Quote from: 7400West on September 23, 2006, 07:03:09 AM
Bufan you need to relax. take a deep breath and watch how close the game is going to be in a few hours. BU and CUC for the past few years have fought for last place. Now both teams are up a comming. But BU has CUC's old coach and with that comes payback for some of the players on CUC for going 0-20 underhim. there are 5-8 seinors on the team now for CUC, ONE DAY THE TEAM WILL BE ON THE TOP OF GREATNESS. do you think that Mount Union just one day became unstoppable.....NO!!! they had people like me and baseman and cougarswillwin supporting them and encouraging them!!!!!!!that is why BU loses today= no support from the fan at their home field!

WOW!!  Comparing MU to CUC... that's reasonable.  Cheerleaders (cougarswillwin, 7400West, and baseman) do not win football games.  Athletes win football game.  Believe all you want your gonna get Monkey Stomped on the regular.

AU rolls!!  Sweet.  AU vs. Mac use to be for confrence every year.  My how the Highlanders have fallen from grace.  Is this a sign that the Spartans are back in contention for the title???


twisted support is something that CUC is trying out, MU uses it and it seems to work, maybe no one like AU and they win a few, good for you but baseman,cougarswillwin, and myself are always going to support are team even if they lose everygame!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 23, 2006, 09:23:36 PM
It's true, I will support them no matter what, even if they go 1-9.

And I see AU being the 3rd or 4th best team in conference, don't think they will contend for the title, even though they did beat MAC today.

Ah, doesn't matter what we all say, CUW will represent the IBC in the playoffs this year and hopefully bring the conference a much needed post season win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 24, 2006, 12:07:00 AM
CUW wins big on the road...I think anyone that was at the game would agree Eureka had some amazing hits...after the play...I could not believe how cheap a team could be and how little respect a team had after a game....CUW players were getting kneed and punched after plays....the refs didnt help either....one player got hurt on a cheap shot from behind and their was no call...so basically warning to the IBFC...you will crush Eureka but be careful about the after whistle plays...its the only ones they can make...Aaron Gillespie scores on a 90 yd kick return first play...then carries for 119 on a day the field was very short for the falcons...2tds for him on the day...still IBFC player of year leader
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 24, 2006, 06:32:47 AM
Gomer, Gomer, ahhh, Lakeland,  and here is to you TrueBLUE or is it CountryBLUE from GC, Like those Muskies don't you. I said 3 TD's and I was off by one. I will say one thing, that line I said was suspect Well I understand they drove it down your throat.  We all agreed GC would be a team to reckeon with. I thinks Lakeland is just fine, The D is solid the Offense still progressing, I will say that when the offense is clicking on all cylindars they will be hard to stop. And Gomer leave your Homer alone. Go Muskies.. Players of the Week, Lakelands OL, Next up BENNY where are  "U" My OL needs a B---H NOW. Guys DON'T get big heads just go out there and SMACK some DL. OHHHH BENNNNY 8)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 24, 2006, 07:59:46 AM
 Maddog:
       Hey Mel, i know you were scared.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 24, 2006, 10:36:18 AM
Lovethegame-

The game I watched was different from the game you watched. AU put up  more than 300 yds. against Mac (so much for Mac's defense). Mac put up only 4 on the ground (either 22 lost a step or AU's defense is credible). First half ended 27-6. The AU coach is a gentleman and doesn't run up scores like some teams in this conference. Meaning he played all the AU players. Had he left his 1st team in the game it would have been a total blow-out. Mac's QB (5) doesn't look like he will be back next week, so how good is that. To Mac's credit 11 and 9 played great football. Actually 11 should replace 22 at tail.  Just a word to those who have to play at Mac this season - their field is in deporable condition - Tape those ankles!!.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hiser21 on September 24, 2006, 02:41:53 PM
Let's take a look at what the CUC new staff has accomplished. Game 1 was big big boost, winning against anyone for this program is big. But since things have gone south. In the Blackburn game the defense played well, created turnovers, flew to the ball, held them to 3 points and Blackburn had several chances on offense with a very short field. CUC's offense played well enough to win. Games 2 & 3 (UC and R-H) were blowouts and probably not completely unexpected.  New staff panicked, the same defense that played well in week 1, under went changes, result BU scored 27 in the first half. So now what, next two weeks (Eureka, MacM) are games they need and should play well in, because after that the last 4 games are going to be extremely tough.
Former Coach Conwell and now BU assistant, had to have some delight in yesterday's game. BU hasn't beat CUC that bad in a long time. His two years against BU were very close games, last year losing in OT in a game that got away. New high school staff at CUC is struggling. Def. Coor. never has coached on the that side of the ball, and it's showing. Hynes made the hires he felt were best for the program, he had other options that would have brought allot of college level experience in, instead he made the feel good hire of a former CUC player. Over time this may work out ok, then again it might not! Hynes, when you look in the mirrow you know that you did Bob Conwell wrong, hopefully you can live with that!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 24, 2006, 09:21:24 PM
PAT!!!!
A few questions

1. Does CUW have a chance at cracking the top 25 prior to playoffs?
2.  Will blowing out teams by 70-80 instead of 56 and resting players help?
3. How much impact does d3football.com's poll have on playoff seeding?
4. Have u ever been to and IBFC game?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 24, 2006, 09:47:24 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on September 24, 2006, 09:21:24 PM
PAT!!!!
A few questions

1. Does CUW have a chance at cracking the top 25 prior to playoffs?
2.  Will blowing out teams by 70-80 instead of 56 and resting players help?
3. How much impact does d3football.com's poll have on playoff seeding?
4. Have u ever been to and IBFC game?

Obviously, I'm not Pat, but even I can answer some of your question:

1. Sure!  Depends on CUW continuing to win, and teams above them losing (or being VERY unimpressive).
2. Probably not.  The d3football voters do not seem to be impressed beyond c. 30 points.
3. Officially, none whatsoever.  Unofficially, I have no idea.
4. I'll leave this one to Pat!

(BTW, I'd have CUW roughly 22-23 on my ballot, but I don't have one!)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 24, 2006, 09:50:09 PM
thanks very informative...i still want pats answers no offense...i hope CUW proves their worth and not just waits for being recognized
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: hollaatyourboy1981 on September 24, 2006, 11:29:50 PM
WOW, crazy how maddog posts against and Lakeland wins...then hey he's with them again...Where do you get your info Maddog?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2006, 01:38:23 AM
I have not seen an IBFC game, no. But I did write the IBFC conference and team previews the past two years so I feel relatively familiar with the league.

Blowing out a bad team by 70 has no effect. Frankly, there's little CUW can do now to improve its ranking other than beat Lakeland. That's the only remaining opponent on the schedule that carries any cachet. Not sure that's enough to crack the Top 25 for a conference that has never won a playoff game. But CUW is on the radar at this point of the season. That's a good sign.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 25, 2006, 01:58:17 AM
It is very hard for me to talk about how next week the cougars will beat Eureka! I sat in the rain at BU and watch what a former Coach get some revenge on his former school. Not only was the WR coach the former Head Coach at CUC but the Running Backs Coach is a former players/admissions Councilor!! I think it's funny how former CUC players and Coaches go to other schools and beat us.

The First half of the game was bad. It angers me as a former player sitting in the bleachers in the rain watching a flat team take the field! When you are going to player a team of similar quality and still have that bad taste in your mouth from last year, you need to come out fired up! Not the case. In the second half the cougars O looked better but the tackles on the oline are killing the QB. Every Coach in America knows when it is flooding out you run the ball. CUC's RB did a fair job of making something happen in the rain. But you cannot throw the ball. The same goes for the D. they are not a good passing team. But the running backs on BU are good. For being small they are not afraid of being hit. They fumbled a lot and that's good for CUC's D. CUC uses the spread and that's fine but you need to add more options for the running game. Teams watch film and know that there are only 2-3 run plays that CUC uses. Another point that is hard to watch is seeing their best D player (leading tackler) sit on the sideline as a back up running back. You have a running back But taking the MLB and putting Him on the O is just a bad move. The D looks good they are the soul of the team; if they do bad then the whole team does bad and vice versa. This loss to BU was a big wake up call for CUC and I think they NEED to beat Eureka or this season will look like last season! They are at home and the home fans should help the Cougars!!!!


Lastly, I played football for 9 years and I partied like a rock star. I have had a troubled past. Soph. year I used to go out DURING THE WEEK of football and now with the help of "Six days to Saturday" by Joe Paterno and looking from the outside-in I realize that when you get beat by a team you should not go and celebrete. I did!!! but I realize now that losing to a team you SHOULD HAVE BEAT you need not relax on Sat. night. I dont completely agree with that but I will say parties=no and 21 year old going to the bar to drink a few that is okay, just dont get sloppy and then you are fine!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 25, 2006, 04:37:16 AM
Hollaratme, I never left Lakeland, just calling some dogs out to prove themselves and they did just THAT. As for my info, I get it from very reliable personel, via phone and internet. I still say it will come down to Lakeland and CUW. Hollaratulater
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 25, 2006, 09:01:51 AM
I agree it comes down to Lakeland and CUW, the score of that game will be around the score that Lakeland beat Greenville by with CUW obviously coming out on top.

But we have to wait to see that now don't we......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hiser21 on September 25, 2006, 10:06:19 AM
To 7400west...

You want to know what the biggest difference was in the game on Saturday, CUC's entire staff has a whopping 6 years of coaching experience at the college level. 4 of those are the Def. Coor. but it was all on offense. He is probably the guy who thought moving MLB (#5) to offense was a good move!

BU's staff totals somewhere between 80-85 years of experience at the college level. What does his mean, you don't panic, you play one week at a time. You hope to get better from week to week. And you prepare for your coming oppenent. I don't think the staff at CUC is doing that.  The new staff at CUC did do a good job with the overall attitude of the team during camp,  but that is going away fast. They better right the ship soon or this season will unravel on them.

Ask yourself a question...is CUC better right now than they were when they played Blackburn? You are right on one thing, this game against Eureka is for this program. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: hollaatyourboy1981 on September 25, 2006, 10:30:09 AM
Must be really reliable...Cause from what I heard, people said that this o-line held its own against both Oshkosh and Whitewater...Two of the BEST D-Lines in the country...Wilk was never running scared...And don't jump back on the banwaggon if your going to cut them down...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 25, 2006, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: Hiser21 on September 25, 2006, 10:06:19 AM
To 7400west...

You want to know what the biggest difference was in the game on Saturday, CUC's entire staff has a whopping 6 years of coaching experience at the college level. 4 of those are the Def. Coor. but it was all on offense. He is probably the guy who thought moving MLB (#5) to offense was a good move!

BU's staff totals somewhere between 80-85 years of experience at the college level. What does his mean, you don't panic, you play one week at a time. You hope to get better from week to week. And you prepare for your coming oppenent. I don't think the staff at CUC is doing that.  The new staff at CUC did do a good job with the overall attitude of the team during camp,  but that is going away fast. They better right the ship soon or this season will unravel on them.

Ask yourself a question...is CUC better right now than they were when they played Blackburn? You are right on one thing, this game against Eureka is for this program. 


Hiser? how are you involved with CUC, former coach, Fan, player, former player, friend of freind or nothing at all. How do you know about the teams camp and such.

To answer you question i will say that the team last year would have beat blackburn. I dont think CUC has gotten better or worse, But BlackBurn is awful! But i agian say that if CUC loses to EC then we(concordia Chicago) are in trouble and are going to get a lot of hate mail!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 25, 2006, 11:13:20 AM
Here is a question to all you *former CUC head Coach now BU coach* fans-

If the school(CUC) sucks so bad and the higher ups are horrible, Then WHY ARE YOU UPSET THAT he was asked to leave?

If i was a coach of a "poor" team and the school was working against me then why stick around?


here is my point= I am sure the former coachs at CUC look at us and say, "thank you"!

MOVE ON AND LET THE NEW COACHING STAFF DO THEIR JOB! DONT BE BITTER. I WAS UPSET, BITTER, JEOULOUS, BUT NOW REALIZE THAT THIS IS MY SCHOOL AND I WILL SUPPORT IT ALL THE TIME, BUT I WONT SIT HERE AND SAY THE TEAM WILL BE GREAT, I WILL GET ANGRY AND MAD ABOUT THINGS IN THE PROGRAM THAT PISS ME OFF!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 25, 2006, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: hollaatyourboy1981 on September 25, 2006, 10:30:09 AM
Must be really reliable...Cause from what I heard, people said that this o-line held its own against both Oshkosh and Whitewater...Two of the BEST D-Lines in the country...Wilk was never running scared...And don't jump back on the banwaggon if your going to cut them down...

I'd say this assessment is pretty accurate. You can look at the eight sacks the O-line has given up and panic, or you can be impressed when you consider who they've played. And then to open IBFC play by allowing their backs to gain 200 yards total on the ground against one of the conference's better teams is huge. That was with one starter out for the game.

As for this week, home teams sweep as Concordia and Lakeland roll over Mac and Benedictine, and CUC gets the win over Eureka and Greenville beats Aurora.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hiser21 on September 25, 2006, 02:24:33 PM
7440west, first what difference does it make who I am. I'm posting my opinion along with the truth as I know it.

Second, I want to see the new staff at CUC do well. And I'm not saying Conwell should have been retained. What I will say is the way he got the job and then his unfortunate illness in 2005 really hurt his chances.
The state of this program that the new staff inherited is the direct result of Hynes, there is no way around that.

The biggest difference between the two teams last Saturday was not the players, it was coaching and preparation!

Finally last spring when the decision was made to hire the HC one of the other options was from an NAIA lutheran college in Neb. He would have brought his son who more than likey would have been the DC, between the two of them they have over 30 years of experience at the college level.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 25, 2006, 05:02:11 PM
My Picks for this week:
AU beats Greenville
CUW beats Mac
CUC Eureka
BU over lakeland....upset special
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 25, 2006, 05:48:57 PM
Greenville over AU by 7

CUW over Mac by 24

CUC over EU

Lakeland rolls BU this is the beatdown of the week
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 25, 2006, 07:00:32 PM
Fatal-

Come on, BU over Lakeland???

If that happened there would be riots in Lisle, cars set on fire and flipped over and alot of looting. 

Anyhow, picks of the week, much like everyone elses.

1.  Greenville over AU in a close one
2.  CUW just blows out MAC by 40 or more (again MAC has over 100 yards of unsportsmanlike penalties)
3.  CUC over Eureka......MUST win for CUC to see the progression (if any) they have made from last year.
4.  Lakeland over BU, come on fatal.  Though you did say upset special, fun to think about.
5.  Dunn runs for over 100 yards and scores 2 TDs and I win my fantasy game this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 25, 2006, 07:13:49 PM
You guys caught me......I was justseeing how people would react.....but any given day anything is possible.......CUW beat NCC so its possible....doubtful but possible......Why is there no love for AU beating greenville....In the past let say 5 years greenville has never won....granted last year was closer...but due to weather a huge rain delay......I think AU wins by at least a TD maybe 2
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 25, 2006, 08:22:35 PM
It is strange that all the talk is about CW, Lakeland and how great or worse Green or CC is becoming. There has been little chatter about AU.
AU has a Coaching staff and a team who believe in each other. It is amazing how well they contact. It's all about conference folks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 25, 2006, 08:34:27 PM
I think greenville gets this one because it's at Greenville I believe.  I think they truly have a homefield advantage.  This is the upset of the week in a close one. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on September 25, 2006, 09:01:08 PM
AU over Greenville 21-17
Lakeland over BU but closer then everyone thinks (less then 10)
CUW over MAC 66-0

EC over CUC in the battle for the bottom.  This game will be HOT GARBAGE.
Bet   ;)

Sorry for the distaste for both EC and CUC but you hurt the IBFC.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 25, 2006, 09:41:30 PM
I agree with AUFB05, AU never ges the credit they deserve, I think that AU...Twisted may be on to something with BU vs LC because it is not the same team as last year...Sorry Maddogg the truth hurts.....I believe that This year it'll be a dogfight at the top between, CUW AU LC and potentially GC......But it'll be closer than everyone thinks CUW though good...I think is beatable
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 25, 2006, 11:04:37 PM
Quote from: Hiser21 on September 25, 2006, 02:24:33 PM
7440west, first what difference does it make who I am. I'm posting my opinion along with the truth as I know it.

Second, I want to see the new staff at CUC do well. And I'm not saying Conwell should have been retained. What I will say is the way he got the job and then his unfortunate illness in 2005 really hurt his chances.
The state of this program that the new staff inherited is the direct result of Hynes, there is no way around that.

The biggest difference between the two teams last Saturday was not the players, it was coaching and preparation!

Finally last spring when the decision was made to hire the HC one of the other options was from an NAIA lutheran college in Neb. He would have brought his son who more than likey would have been the DC, between the two of them they have over 30 years of experience at the college level.




well hister you must be close to the team or used to be to know all that information. years of coaching might have played a factor but not for long!!. I think the cougars are starting to look like the cougars of old, but today Coach P did something to the team that should have been done a long time ago but the old staff never took any chances on punishing a player for wrong doing, I myself was an asshole my soph. year and no punishment was given to me. I am not complaining about that but i should have been taken after practice and run till i drop. What Coach P did today at practice was take a huge leap in punishing players and i am glad this happen, you will see a diffrent team on sat against EC.

Years dont win games.
Fighting and Believing in your coach, players, and TALENT win games and you dont need 85 years to do that.
I was on the committee to choose the new coach with other players and I will admitt that Coach P was not my first choice as coach but i after meeting him i was one of the biggest supporter, In Fact i changed alot of minds in the room!. there are somethings that appeal to me as a player and Coach P had the most of them, In truth the coach from Neb. was not looking for the Coaching job he was looking to move into an office job, ALOT LIKE THE COACH FROM A FEW YEARS AGO WHO IS NOW A HIGHER UP IN THE SCHOOL. So I was not a fan of the Neb coach. Tell you the truth the coach from john carrol was a good coach. Being Catholic and coming from a Chicago Catholic School I liked that personality of the John Carrol coach, but when Coach P walked in the room I was shocked and never gave him a chance till i heard his views and what he believes in and that is the NUMBER ONE thing you need from a coach, "beleiveing in him'' I believed in coach hynes and he lived up to what he said except for the leaving after a year part. I never had a chance to believe in coach Conwell. Not saying anything bad but i never felt that fire with him. Coach P gave me that fire and I am glad he is coach. On a personal note the best coach i ever had was my freshmen coach in high school!
Coach P is the right coach

Truth is that there is NO COACH IN AMERICA that could change CUC in one year. Coach P. is the man, and i will support him always.
Coach Conwell was a great guy but i am sure he is happier with BU then here at CUC. Good luck to him and I hope he is the head coach somewhere soon.

CUC over EC (if i'm wrong then CUC will not be able to come up for air!)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 26, 2006, 03:31:47 AM
First Hollaratme, I have BEEN Lakelands bandwagon for the last 4 yrs, where have you been other than your 3 post on this site, SECOND, I call it like I hear it from players. The OL needs to get even better than last week. The main reason I even continue to follow this program and D3 is because they in my eyes have a D-1 coach in Coach "Z" and some of the players still with the program. I still and always have believed that Lakeland will be the team to beat this yr. NEVER left that bandwagon, even before you jumped on. U need to start hollaringatyourself. I just wanted to piss that OL off so that they continue their tradition of punishing DL's like yrs before. AND I SUCCEEDED. No doubt they will get even better before their championship game against CUW. AND they better starting this week cuz that will be the test aginst CUW. Do I believe in them YES am I convinced yet NO! I expect better, which they are, if they want to be. But as far as jumping back on the bandwagon, knucklehead, I NEVER left. As for 200+ yrds rushing, s--t I am used to them getting 300/400 yrds rushing, so NO I am not happy yet, but will NEVER leave the bandwagon WIN or LOSE. As for Benny look out 60-7 score this week. AU over Grenville, CUW against who ever they play until Lakeland, CUC over Eureka. And one more thing as for the OL, I EXPECT DOMINANCE NOTHING LESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO KISS MY AZZ HOLLARATYOU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 26, 2006, 08:48:35 AM
I do believe that it'll be a three dog fight....such as that of the pervious years...namely the last three years.....I believ all teams lost....a little...but made some headway thru the season.....So I think it's actually pretty evenley matched at this point....I believe this conference is anybody's game...Well not anybody's....just 3 schools....but betwen those 3 schools its anybody's game...It is still open....I dont wanna hear any crap about CUW did this and LC did that I don't care....Any given saturday.....I dont appreciate when schools who have a great potential at winning their conference and people assuming its a 2 horse race....well its not with the exception of GC's loss it was still four horses and now it may only be three....but we shall see what the future holds.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hiser21 on September 26, 2006, 12:57:56 PM
Well 7400west, I've got to ask ...if you thought Pries was the guy and even convinced others players that he was the guy, why are you not playing for him?

I also agree that the CUC is a project and not something that can be turned around in one year.

If Pries has drawn a line in the sand then I hope he sticks to it. Treat ever player the same from your best guy to the last player on your depth chart.
Your assistant's have to buy in also.  If you don't you will lose there respect, when that happpens it's over!  Remeber these are not high school kids.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 26, 2006, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Hiser21 on September 26, 2006, 12:57:56 PM
Well 7400west, I've got to ask ...if you thought Pries was the guy and even convinced others players that he was the guy, why are you not playing for him?

I also agree that the CUC is a project and not something that can be turned around in one year.

If Pries has drawn a line in the sand then I hope he sticks to it. Treat ever player the same from your best guy to the last player on your depth chart.
Your assistant's have to buy in also.  If you don't you will lose there respect, when that happpens it's over!  Remeber these are not high school kids.

The fact that I am not playing this year has nothing at all to do with coach pries. In fact he and I had a fairly long convo about it. Once football started I got stabbed in the back and could have played after camp but that is not fair and I would have been everything I hate in players who do that. I believe that you should be with the team all the time and I was not. I am upset (alot) about not playing because if someone was honest with me then I would have been able to play! THE POINT IS THAT ME NOT PLAYING HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH COACH P!!!

Truth is that I don't play so I don't know first hand how coach p is doing; all I can do is talk to friends and watch the games and sometimes stop and see practice. From the looks of it there are changes in Attitude. The game play as you can see has not changed but will with time, Good things are in the future for CUC! And God willing I will be playing next year!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hiser21 on September 26, 2006, 02:54:14 PM
7400WEST, I hope things work out for you!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 26, 2006, 08:57:25 PM
This week could be a very good week for many teams...others not so much...but anyway for those who havent posted picks yet......Lets see em
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 26, 2006, 11:32:59 PM
COUGS WILL WIN!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 27, 2006, 09:39:51 AM
This week I'm going to go with.......

CUW vs MacMurray        CUW wins  33-12
CUC  vs Eureka              CUC wins 18-7
Lakeland vs BU              Lakeland wins 30-20
Greenville vs Aurora      GC wins 24-17

Should be some great games.   Good luck to all the teams!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 27, 2006, 09:48:44 AM
Still no support for the spartans
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 27, 2006, 10:03:39 AM
Sorry Fatal but I have to stick with my GC alum!

EMAP! Every Man A Panther.       GO GREENVILLE!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 27, 2006, 11:50:29 AM
CUW vs MacMurray=        CUW
CUC  vs Eureka=              CUC (Must win for them!)
Lakeland vs BU=               LC but not by much!!! could get upset!!
Greenville vs Aurora=       GC upset of the week!! sorry AU



There are my picks for the week!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 27, 2006, 01:21:36 PM
  Question:    Any info about the Mac Head football coach ref: did he coach this passed saturday`s game or did another assistant, coach that game?  Just wondering.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on September 27, 2006, 01:39:30 PM
Mac's Coach got suspended for the game by the AD.  From what I hear there on of the players go kicked out of the game against Rockford and the coach didnt report it on that monday (waited till tuesday because of a JV game he had to find refs. for) and the AD suspended him.  Things are not looking good this week for mac either.  Half of their players can play because the AD messed something up with inserance so expect the game to be worse then what it was already going to me.


On a random side note, why does everyone keep thinking mac is getting a ton of unsportsman like conducts.  They only 2 things that I know of is the one kid getting ejected from the game against Rockford (who were very dirty from what I understand).  If anything else please let me know but from what I think mac is doing much better than in years past.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 27, 2006, 02:54:28 PM
first any one who thinks or even thought that the game between Lakeland and BU would be close needs to quit smoking the good s--t. please no contest here. As for Mac just another yr, someday the players will learn from the past and play the game. Funny how everyone, everytime says it's the other team, Mac has a proven history for this type of play, some things never change even with good coach'slike Mac has. What should happen is Mac disqualify all the players on this team that has had a player problem in the past 3 yrs and start fresh. They do have excellent coachs but the coaches don't play the game. That's what I would do asap to set the tone. It's one thing to be aggressive and another to be foolish on the field. Mac will be back. From what I read it looks like the AD should suspend himself for 2 weeks or resign. How do you fail to do the insurance on your players. Remember problems usually start from the top on down. Remember S--t rolls down hill!!!!!!

Lakeland by 5 TD's
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 27, 2006, 02:59:26 PM
Maddogg itll be closer than u think......AU will win
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 27, 2006, 04:30:07 PM
  FatalImpact: Thanks for the explanation.

 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 27, 2006, 04:34:54 PM
 Maddog: Your killing me............5 TD`s. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 27, 2006, 07:21:46 PM
Maddog and I usually never agree, but I have to go with the big guy on this one.

Lakeland by at the least 3 - 4 TDs.

They aren't the same team as last year, but they roll in this one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 27, 2006, 07:24:35 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 27, 2006, 07:21:46 PM
Maddog and I usually never agree, but I have to go with the big guy on this one.

Lakeland by at the least 3 - 4 TDs.

They aren't the same team as last year, but they roll in this one.

How are they not the same team? Last year they beat Greenville 20-13, this year they did 28-13, so maybe they're not the same team, maybe they're better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 27, 2006, 08:25:04 PM
I think they have the possiblity of being better over time but not at this time they have a ways to go. I know they have the talent, White, Royal were on last yrs team, Homer, Phal were there too, Lee and Barrie as well as Schremp, washington, warner and on and on. Really the only major change is Wilk and I think he is as good as Ryan if he sets his mind too it. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on September 27, 2006, 09:11:10 PM
Not to change the subject, but the Mac football program does have a few bad "eggs". But if my memory serves correctly the Mac and Lakeland game last year there was a fight.  The lakeland allamerican special teams player was walking through the line at the end of the game calling everyone a B$TCH, F#G and other names that should never been said on sunday. That is correct, and lakeland is just better at gettting away with trash talking and cheap penalties. Remember when the WHITEWATER GAME MADDOG, ALOT OF PERSONEL FOULS ON THE MUSKIES. I also believe that Lakeland is the dirtiest team in the conference. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on September 27, 2006, 10:13:21 PM
Hey Maddog How's Ryan doing? Hope his season is going well!! Have you been able to go to any games? Quite a bit farther than Lakeland. :-[ Also I haven't been on for awhile so Happy Belated birthday!! Glad you made it back from skydiving.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 27, 2006, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on September 27, 2006, 07:24:35 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 27, 2006, 07:21:46 PM
Maddog and I usually never agree, but I have to go with the big guy on this one.

Lakeland by at the least 3 - 4 TDs.

They aren't the same team as last year, but they roll in this one.

How are they not the same team? Last year they beat Greenville 20-13, this year they did 28-13, so maybe they're not the same team, maybe they're better.

They just aren't no team is thats what Im saying is that nothing is definite....ON ANY GIVEN SATURDAY....Anything can happen......Who knows.....Also I dont think this lakeland team is as good as last year...given there are a lot of returning players but....but Ryan is not playing QB.....WHen some one that is that vital to their teams success is gone your chances of winning....like previous years depletes.....I think it is possible that this LC could get upset by anyone
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 28, 2006, 03:34:16 AM
FatalImpact, No doubt Wilk is no Ryan, BUT what Wilk is, is a great drop back passer. He is more of a pocket passer verse Ryan's (Mike Vick) style QB. With Wilks targets he has the potential to pass for 3,000 yrds. Remember he leads the IBFC in passing at this point, I do believe. Further he has a great backfield, the same as last yrs. The reason I am harsh on the OL, is because, yes they competed well against the Whitwaters and Oshkoshes but I truely think the DL from CUW will be there biggest test. There aren't to many Langstons and Allens out there. These 2 are the equevalent too Zeck and Benton from Lakeland last yr. And there will be no upsets from Lakeland Coach "Z" is to smart to let that happen, he prepares very well during the week. There aren't too many coaches I know that stay up all hours of the night every day of the week preparing his team for battle like Z does. During football this guy is a work-a-holic, so he will have his team ready every week bank on that. Good luck to all this weekend, "GO MUSKIES". lOOK FOR LAKELANDS "OL" TO PUT UP OVER 600 YRS TOTAL OFFENSE THIS WEEK.

D3football1-good hearing from you, Mark seems to be doing quit well for Greenville this yr. I have been following him. Should be 1st team DB this yr. Ryan had a great season in Germany, not t mention he has seen the world. Last sunday he had the opportunity to play against his former team-ate Ryan Van do loo in the Semi finals of the German Super Bowl. They (Ryans) team lost to (Van do loo's) team. But the 2 had the time of there lifes togather afterwards. He should be back in mid Oct. just in time for Lakelands homecoming. Keep in touch hun and keep me posted on Mark.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 28, 2006, 08:29:33 AM
I wasnt challenging Coach Z's work ethic.......nor did I seriously say that BU would win.....I said it was possible on any given day......Actually I know a lot of coaches that do that.......They went on to have succcessful seasons....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 28, 2006, 08:35:19 AM
   Gomers picks for saturdays games, 9/30.
   
      (1) AU vs GC........  Both teams are 1-2 (over-all). One would think AU
      has the better team but i like GC. Those boys are due so i`m going with
       GC.
     (2) BU vs LC..... Conventional wisdom tells me LC (1-3) should win this game as they have played some really good teams, lossing all but as some have said," gaining experience." BU is 2-2 over-all and would like nothing better than to take LC and get instant bragging rights.
   I would like to see that happen but not this week. LC gets the "W".
    (3)   EC vs CU-C....  EC is 0-3, CU-C is 1-3. Really no difference between
    the two so this is my "pick-em" game.
   (4) Mac vs CU-W.........  Mac is 0-3 and fading fast. Could end up 2-8 for the season.  Coach set down for a game and other issues don`t help.
      CU-W, (4-0) on the other hand seems to have gotten off on the right
   foot and i believe will  be the IBC champs when the smoke clears. 
    Seems like they`ve gotten experience with-out lossing.
    Mac has nothing to stop CU-W so the score could be....................
    CU-W in a cake walk!!
 
   *****  all wins and losses are.......over-all.
   
       
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on September 28, 2006, 11:58:40 PM
Do people in this room what film, look at stats or do you simply look at the final score and past history b/4 commenting.

Lakeland- no where near as good as last year. GC- defense is not as good as last year, seems like they had retention problems.

GC- 5 times inside the redzone vs Lakeland. Missed FG, 2 fumbles, 1 T.O on downs, 1 score. Last year GC barely moved the ball vs. Lakeland. They had 2 scores on the final 2 drives to make it close.

Stats from the game was pretty even. Neither defense could stop each other's offense. Offensive mistakes stop them both.

Lakeland ran back a KO. They scored 3 tds last year on GC's defense and scored 3 td's this year.

3rd down- 8 of 15 for Lakeland. GC couldn't stop #1. That was the real difference in the game on 3rd down.

Lakeland couldn't stop GC's option. GC couldn't stop fumbling the ball on the QB, FB exchange. It wasn't even hits that cause the fumble, just exchange problems on the option.

Lakeland won and they outplayed GC overall. But do some homework by looking at the stats and play by play. The game was much closer than the score indicated. And GC was in scoring position (inside the 20) a lot more than Lakeland.

AU beating mac wasn't impressive. Mac has the one of the worst offenses in the conference. I said way back in the summer that their offense was crap because of the oline. I said thier TB was over rated. Nobody believed me.  If AU beats GC this week they are good. GC has to prove it can get to the next level by beating a quality opponent. THis is a big statement for AU and GC's programs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on September 29, 2006, 09:24:29 AM
AU, historically, hasn't been beaten by GC... ever.  Never ever.. not once, in all these years, the Pathers have never stolen one from the Spartans.  Spartans create some TO's and get another W.

The line on the BU vs LC game has changes to 5 td's?!????!  LC is giving 30 points!!!????  Sign me up Maddog, I'll take some of that action.  BU covers by 3 TD's and lose by 2 scores. 

I would like to see that CUW outfit really crush a team.  Lets go CUW over MAC by 60.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 29, 2006, 09:32:42 AM
AU vs GC is a must win for GC. I think they can do it.  They have a good scheme set up and it should be a great win.   Statistically GC is 1st in the Conference on Defense and 2nd in the Conference on Offense and that says alot. (well not all the much considering Lakeland got the crap knocked out of them against Ranked opponents) But still ranked ahead of CUW.  2nd also on total offense.  
Here's what it's gonna come down too in the conference. Lakeland gets beat by CUW in a close one, I think Lakeland will stop up when they need too, but still get the loss. Now right after Lakeland, CUW plays GC and I think GC will stop the run, stop Gillipsie and you've handed yourself better field position and you've prevented 3 touchdowns, I would rather take my chances with CUW through the air, than watching Gillipsie run 400 yds. I think Greenville beats CUW to close out the IBC conference with a 3 way tie.

1. CUW        
2. Greenville  
3. Lakeland    
4. Aurora  
5. Benedictine  
6. CUC
7. MacMurray
8. Eureka  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 29, 2006, 01:27:28 PM
If GC had trouble stopping White on 3rd downs when you know a pass is coming,  how do they plan to stop Collier or Siolka or Meyer or Levy from CUW?  CUW has some great weapons who can all make plays.  I agree GC will do well but this is at CUW where GC does not get any of their home feild advantage.  I pick CUW by 17.  But lets not count eggs before they hatch.  Good luck on getting the W this weekend against AU this will be the early test for those two teams that will have on impact on the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on September 29, 2006, 01:46:44 PM
Nice thought TrueCountry95 but this is what is going to happen; CUW will win all their games and give the IBFC a solid rep. in the playoffs.  End of story.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 29, 2006, 02:31:28 PM
If CUW  wins the conference and gets the AQ, I think it will be interesting where they get seeded and if they will get to host a 1st round game.  You might see a rematch of the CUW vs. (CCIW's champ).  CUW has already proven that they can fly with and beat a CCIW foe,  so if this were to happen, the odds of the first IBFC Playoff win would be higher.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 29, 2006, 02:45:21 PM
Thats true it could be a confidence builder.  Hopefully they won't get shafted the saem way they did last time they got a playoff berth in having to play UW Lacrosse; probably the third best team in the nation that year. That was after CUW had a 9-1 regular season.  But got screwed on seeding and had to play another top seeded team. 

Every year there are teams in the playoffs that the IBFC champ can beat, they are just never lucky enough to get to play against those teams. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 29, 2006, 03:22:21 PM
Why does it tell me I have a message but when I try to read it nothing shows up?  Does anyone know why that might be?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on September 29, 2006, 03:30:26 PM
falcsfb,

The major difference between GC stopping #1 for Lakeland and the playmakers for CUW on 3rd down is the QB. Wilk is a passing QB and is good when he has time. CUW is not a passing team and in the past they have not down well in passing situations. The have done well in situations where they can run or pass (playaction). Last year GC was able to get CUW in some 3rd and longs and got off the field. It remains to be seen if they will be able to get CUW in consistent long situations. I'm not sure. but stopping lakeland's pass (a balanced offense) is a lot tougher than stopping Cuw's pass (not balanced).

GC has to beat AU b/4 they can talk about competing in this conference just yet. They played well vs. Lakeland and CUW last year but laid an egg vs Aurora. I think it will be close and can go either way.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2006, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on September 29, 2006, 03:22:21 PM
Why does it tell me I have a message but when I try to read it nothing shows up?  Does anyone know why that might be?

It's a bug leftover from the spam message a user sent out a couple months ago. I was able to delete the message out of people's boxes before everyone saw it but it didn't fix the message.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 29, 2006, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on September 29, 2006, 09:32:42 AM
AU vs GC is a must win for GC. I think they can do it.  They have a good scheme set up and it should be a great win.   Statistically GC is 1st in the Conference on Defense and 2nd in the Conference on Offense and that says alot. (well not all the much considering Lakeland got the crap knocked out of them against Ranked opponents) But still ranked ahead of CUW.  2nd also on total offense. 
Here's what it's gonna come down too in the conference. Lakeland gets beat by CUW in a close one, I think Lakeland will stop up when they need too, but still get the loss. Now right after Lakeland, CUW plays GC and I think GC will stop the run, stop Gillipsie and you've handed yourself better field position and you've prevented 3 touchdowns, I would rather take my chances with CUW through the air, than watching Gillipsie run 400 yds. I think Greenville beats CUW to close out the IBC conference with a 3 way tie.

1. CUW         
2. Greenville   
3. Lakeland   
4. Aurora 
5. Benedictine 
6. CUC
7. MacMurray
8. Eureka 


THIS WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN........EVER
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 30, 2006, 03:07:31 PM
HALFTIME            Greenville-7        Aurora-0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 30, 2006, 03:28:07 PM
3rd Quarter  12:41               GREENVILLE-14        Aurora - 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 30, 2006, 03:50:12 PM
End of Fourth Quarter G.C. 14- A.U. 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 30, 2006, 04:30:56 PM
END OF GAME         GREENVILLE: 14      AURORA:7




Last post suppose to be End of 3rd Quarter, my bad.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 30, 2006, 06:00:43 PM
What was the final between GC and AU

CUW put it Mac once again.  Maybe we would take it easy on Mac if they would stop playing dirty.

CUC WAY TO GO!!!!

any word on LC benedictine?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 30, 2006, 06:08:30 PM
Lakeland 14, Benedictine 0

Lakeland allowed only 93 yards to the Eagle offense, including about 50 heading into the fourth quarter. The defenses were solid, especially Lakeland's.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 30, 2006, 06:09:50 PM
Thanks. 

Again congrats to CUC taking a bigstep in the right direction.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 30, 2006, 09:19:16 PM
Cougs Did Win!!   41-12!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 30, 2006, 09:22:54 PM
Just to add to that, Eureka's players were really bad sports.  Cheap shots after the whistles, talking crap even when they were getting dominated 41-6, one of thier players was also ejected for trying to start a fight.  Im proud of your Cougars for not only dominating the whole game, but also keeping your heads on straight!  HUGE win for the program and it definately does not stop here!! Keep it up Cougs!


COUGS WILL WIN!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 30, 2006, 09:52:33 PM
I hope with mine warning and cougs warning will allow everyone to be knowledgable of the crap eurka brings....they get their butts whip and have cheap shots to come back with....they also run their mouths and their fans, at least for the concordia game, were drunk annoyances....great job CUW got it done ...special teams play was amazing
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on September 30, 2006, 11:37:47 PM
Great Job Cougars!!!!!!You did what needed to be done and you did it in a way I have never seen before at CUC, Total Domanation!!!!!!The O was awsome and Jason Weeks was outstangding at QB!!!! He did it all, pass run, make things happen!!!! the play calling was great aswell, the O was running on all cylinders!!!!!! the D shut them down too but the O stole the show today. after the rain delay many would have thougtht that CUC would come out flat but not today folks. they pounded on EC. at half time the EC coaching staff was fighting on the sideline, I have not see that since our coaches of old would do that sometime!!! Great Job CUC and live it up and get ready for next week!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: touchdownjesus on September 30, 2006, 11:54:34 PM
I was at the CUC - EC game - mostly walking around.  I want to correct some errors.  First, hats off to CUC and the best played come I have seen from them in years.  Two, the EC coaches were not fighting at half-time.  It appeared to me that the HC was not pleased with the OC on a trick play that failed before half.  In fact I heard the HC say "I am very angry right now please get away before I say something I don't mean."  Sounds like a pretty respectful coach to me.  The EC player that was ejected was speaking to the HC after the game and it appeared that the player was not excited about his punishment, nor were his parents.  I am guessing a suspension is coming.   Additionally, I saw the EC coaching staff actually kneel and pray after the game.  I think they need to pray for the helath of their team, which appeared, young, small, and over-match compared to CUC.  I am not defending their cheapness, EC had three personal fouls, but CUC had two.  These were my intrpetations of the game.  CUC is starting to improve, look for them to pull an upset or two, esspecially at home.  Go IBFC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 01, 2006, 12:21:18 AM
Yeah, holy crap CUC played great today.  I think thats the most points scored by any Concordia team in like 20 years......correct me if I am wrong.

Anyhow, they looked like the CUC today that I was hoping they would be, they completely made Eureka look foolish the whole day.  And I have been talking about MAC being a cheap team, damn, Eureka was as unsportsmanlike as I have seen.  It all started when a play went out of the bounds and a Eureka player came in a couple seconds later and just leveled a CUC player.  I think the last one was the worst with a Eureka player ripping off the helmet of a CUC player.

Either way, CUC dominated and got the win, great to finally see a blowout in CUCs favor after all these years.  MAC needs to watch out next week.....

Oh yeah, Weeks and the offense was just unstoppable.  5 TD passes for 240 yards and 0 INTs, gotta love it.

And BU really hung in there with Lakeland.......BU could be a surprise this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 01, 2006, 12:39:31 AM
congrats to CUC might have a player of the week...cuw should have a special teams POW in taylor siolka...1 blocked punt recovered another for a td...2 blocked punts for cuw...1 blocked recovered for a td, stienmetz returns one 74 yds for a td and another sets up a td....but congrats to the QB at CUC...the qb position is up in the air for all conference..go get it
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on October 01, 2006, 12:54:23 AM
Quote from: falcsfb on September 30, 2006, 06:00:43 PM
What was the final between GC and AU

CUW put it Mac once again.  Maybe we would take it easy on Mac if they would stop playing dirty.

CUC WAY TO GO!!!!

any word on LC benedictine?



I wouldnt say CUW put it on mac....they won but Mac made a lot of stupid mistakes (not that I am trying to take anything away from their win).  Also I wouldnt say that Mac was dirty.  I thought that this was a very clean game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 01, 2006, 07:48:02 AM
  Greenville gets a nice win for their program. AU can`t score!!
  CU-C, also wins again.
   LC over BU by 14. The resident "Homer" said by 5 TD`s.  Looks like The
   IBC power-house is no more.  Give credit to BU for showing up LC.
  CU-W over Mac. NO surprise there!  Two programs going in different directions.
   CU-W should win the IBC crown and Mac is moving to that "other"
   conference. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 01, 2006, 09:30:11 AM
Hey Hey,  Concordia-Chicago has 2 wins already!  Looks like Coach Prues  is doing a great job in rectifying the Cougars' program. Congrats on the big win!  On to (hopefully) win #3!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 01, 2006, 10:41:23 AM
I believe that Benedictine's 14-0 loss to Lakeland is a much more critical step for them than CUC's victory.  It was 2 short years ago when we were tied 7-7 at the end of the first quarter against Lakeland.  Only for them to rattle off 68 unasnwered points, we lost 75-7.  In two years, we somehow scored less points, which is a remarkable in its own right, but we limited them to 2 TD's.  Last year we allowed 30 less points and then 2 years ago, and again cut the opponents scoring by 30 points.  We haven't been that close to LC since 2002 where we lost 27-14, where the same corner gave up the same post route on 2 consecutive possessions.  Anyways, while I think CUW will win conference handedly, Im amazed at how BU and GC are improving, and as mad as I may make someone, I love seeing Macmurray get it handed to them.  Im not slamming CUC's victory but the only reason I disagree in this being a "BIG" step is because of your 4 conference win's since 1999, 3 have been against Eureka.  And yes, your other was against BU.  So I would say if they defeat a GC, Mac, or AU this year, then yes, that is undoubtedly a HUGE step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 01, 2006, 12:38:58 PM
BU wont beat AU
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 01, 2006, 08:09:24 PM
bufan,

i agree with you that Bene is on the right direction. However the close score with Lakeland occur for 2 reason, Bene is better and Lakeland is no where near the team they have been the last 2 years.

Lakeland is like the Notre Dame of Illini badger conf. A lot of hype but once you get on the field with them people quickly realize they have a legit shot to beat them. They also won't consider it an upset if they do beat them.

However,I suspect that Lakeland will only lose to CUW in conference this year. But I expect to see a very close score against AU (who isn't as good as a year ago). I also don't expect many points vs MAC.

Bene vs GC can go either way. Neither them scores much and both play solid defense.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 01, 2006, 09:06:29 PM
CUW scored 148 straight points without giving up a point...that is great defense...the streak might still be on but cuw got some 3s and 4s in the last quater against macs 1s...its damn near impossible to run against cuw
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 01, 2006, 10:39:44 PM
Genius, I like your analogy of Lakeland:Notre Dame.  It is a fair analogy

and BU will beat AU
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on October 01, 2006, 11:36:51 PM
maddog-

Was a little closer than you though ey?  Juts imagine when BU plays Lakeland next yr with BU having a couple huge offensive players back.  Could have even been closer?

And hats off to  Weeks from CUC.  Good game brother Im happy for you and your brother is still the responsible one for my broken right pointer finger.  Your Mom must have been going insane in the stands she is a great woman!!!

GO BU!!!

Swollness
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 02, 2006, 12:41:12 AM
BU WILL NOT BEAT AU.....NOT NOW NOT EVER
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 02, 2006, 01:54:13 AM
Where do I begin, so much to talk about! I might have to do more then one post to cover everything I have read from all of you. I will start with what bothers me the most and work from there!!!

FIRST, CUC's win is much more important then, BU's Loss to Lakeland. CUC was a new team. The 3 games before this week were CURF and now it is CUC!!! CUC would have beat up on BU wit the attitudes and game play I witnessed on sat. They had a fire lit I have never seen of played with at CUC and it is COACH PRIES AND JANOWSKI!!  The O is rolling just like they say! Watch out MacMurry and watch out AU and maybe even Greenville!!! If they play the way they did on sat. then it could happen!!

SECOND! I was right there but was not a nosy as I should have been. I heard the HC yell at the OC to not walk away from him and "to get back here when I am talking to you!" the fact is that it does not matter what he said and even if he said "I am very angry right now please get away before I say something I don't mean." The point is that they were pissed at each other. Did you see the poor attempt at the WR pass, CUC caused them to play like that, and that is what I was commenting on!

Third! I really don't know how cheap EC was! I could not tell from but I believe it. I will say that the EC head coach is a good one and will cure the cancers on the team. I watched him when he was at UC and he was a good coach then and is not. They will get better.

Forth! If Eurika is younger then CUC that is amazing!!!!! CUC has 3-4 last year players or less. Most of the team is Freshman.

Fif!! What happen to Lakeland!

Sixth! I think BU and CUC should play at the end of the season at BU and if BU wins then I will agree that a loss is more important then a win. But I truly believe that CUC would win big.

Seventh! I think this win clearly puts this coaching staff over the top and lets Coach Pries sleep at least a little better! But the season is not over and He will have the Cougars ready!!!!

Good luck to all the teams and watch out for the Cougars!!! It is an exciting time at CUC!!! For the frist time in a long time!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 02, 2006, 02:11:44 AM
Quote from: 7400West on October 02, 2006, 01:54:13 AM
Where do I begin, so much to talk about! I might have to do more then one post to cover everything I have read from all of you. I will start with what bothers me the most and work from there!!!

FIRST, CUC's win is much more important then, BU's Loss to Lakeland. CUC was a new team. The 3 games before this week were CURF and now it is CUC!!! CUC would have beat up on BU wit the attitudes and game play I witnessed on sat. They had a fire lit I have never seen of played with at CUC and it is COACH PRIES AND JANOWSKI!!  The O is rolling just like they say! Watch out MacMurry and watch out AU and maybe even Greenville!!! If they play the way they did on sat. then it could happen!!

SECOND! I was right there but was not a nosy as I should have been. I heard the HC yell at the OC to not walk away from him and "to get back here when I am talking to you!" the fact is that it does not matter what he said and even if he said "I am very angry right now please get away before I say something I don't mean." The point is that they were pissed at each other. Did you see the poor attempt at the WR pass, CUC caused them to play like that, and that is what I was commenting on!

Third! I really don't know how cheap EC was! I could not tell from but I believe it. I will say that the EC head coach is a good one and will cure the cancers on the team. I watched him when he was at UC and he was a good coach then and is not. They will get better.

Forth! If Eurika is younger then CUC that is amazing!!!!! CUC has 3-4 last year players or less. Most of the team is Freshman.

Fif!! What happen to Lakeland!

Sixth! I think BU and CUC should play at the end of the season at BU and if BU wins then I will agree that a loss is more important then a win. But I truly believe that CUC would win big.

Seventh! I think this win clearly puts this coaching staff over the top and lets Coach Pries sleep at least a little better! But the season is not over and He will have the Cougars ready!!!!

Good luck to all the teams and watch out for the Cougars!!! It is an exciting time at CUC!!! For the frist time in a long time!!!!



also Weeks should be 1st team with that kind of game play, He looked like his idol Farve out there (young Farve)!!!


GO BEARS!!!!!!

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 02, 2006, 10:10:57 AM
I am assuming you mean, "FAVRE"

yeah, I do think Weeks should be player of the week, when was the last time CUC had a player of the week?  Maybe never.

And CUW still wins conference, they beat Lakeland BIIIIG I think.  No one will stop CUW, not even the "Pain Train" Maddog.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 02, 2006, 10:30:32 AM
Good games played this past Saturday way to go CUC!  It's going to be another good week in the IBC this Saturday also. I'm going have to disagree with you baseman, CUW is beatable.  It may be possible with Lakeland, but more possible with Greenville. I know you guys are going to disagree and I understand where your coming from, but I just think GC's Defense can do it, and if you can stop Gillipsie than your half way there. But who knows.   I'm makin my predictions early for Saturday October, 7th.   

Lakeland vs. Eureka      Lakeland  Wins   52-7
Aurora vs CUW              CUW  Wins   38-13
CUC vs MacMurray         CUC   Wins   21-18
Greenville vs BU             Greenville    Wins    21-7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 02, 2006, 02:46:16 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 02, 2006, 10:30:32 AM
Good games played this past Saturday way to go CUC!  It's going to be another good week in the IBC this Saturday also. I'm going have to disagree with you baseman, CUW is beatable.  It may be possible with Lakeland, but more possible with Greenville. I know you guys are going to disagree and I understand where your coming from, but I just think GC's Defense can do it, and if you can stop Gillipsie than your half way there. But who knows.   I'm makin my predictions early for Saturday October, 7th.   

Lakeland vs. Eureka      Lakeland  Wins   52-7
Aurora vs CUW              CUW  Wins   38-13
CUC vs MacMurray         CUC   Wins   21-18
Greenville vs BU             Greenville    Wins    21-7

The only reason you think GC or want GC to beat 'em is for the infamous three way tie......CUW beats LC....LC beats GC.......The GC to beat CUW.....don't get me wrong.....I agree CUW is beatable.....You're already playing the numbers game.....trust me Ive been there.....While there is a distinct possibility that GC will beat CUW.....IMO it is doubtful
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 02, 2006, 06:58:29 PM
7400...i thought we settled this.  Its easy to get up for a team that you know you can beat up on. Like CUC did for Eureka.  Dont sit here and tell me that if they played at the end of the year, CUC would win big.  While CUC would be improved, so would BU.  I dont think CUC would improve enough to overcome a 34-12 defecit.  I dont care about the rain, the spread offense, dont wanna hear it.  You said CUC had a new team after you beat Blackburn, then Chicago and Rose Hullman took them behind the wood shed, BU handed it too them, then you beat Eureka and you have a new team all of a sudden?  I dont quite see the logic.  Your supposed to get excited before games and have that attitude you mentioned.  As much as I despise MacMurray overall attitutde on the field, they will hit u in the mouth, be it dirty or clean.  MacMurray is looking at CUC like you guys did to Eureka.  Like they can stomp on you like Albert Haynesworth.  Just like AU looks at BU.  Its that mindset that is hard to overcome if your on the wrong side of it.

Since 2 weeks ago, I was pretty much right on the money with my predictions, scores included...I will attempt to do the same this week.

Lakeland 45, Eureka 0
CUW 32, AU 7
MacMurray 27, CUC 13
BU 14, Greenville 12
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 02, 2006, 08:13:05 PM
Quote from: bufan on October 02, 2006, 06:58:29 PM
7400...i thought we settled this.  Its easy to get up for a team that you know you can beat up on. Like CUC did for Eureka.  Dont sit here and tell me that if they played at the end of the year, CUC would win big.  While CUC would be improved, so would BU.  I dont think CUC would improve enough to overcome a 34-12 defecit.  I dont care about the rain, the spread offense, dont wanna hear it.  You said CUC had a new team after you beat Blackburn, then Chicago and Rose Hullman took them behind the wood shed, BU handed it too them, then you beat Eureka and you have a new team all of a sudden?  I dont quite see the logic.  Your supposed to get excited before games and have that attitude you mentioned.  As much as I despise MacMurray overall attitutde on the field, they will hit u in the mouth, be it dirty or clean.  MacMurray is looking at CUC like you guys did to Eureka.  Like they can stomp on you like Albert Haynesworth.  Just like AU looks at BU.  Its that mindset that is hard to overcome if your on the wrong side of it.

Since 2 weeks ago, I was pretty much right on the money with my predictions, scores included...I will attempt to do the same this week.

Lakeland 45, Eureka 0
CUW 32, AU 7
MacMurray 27, CUC 13
BU 14, Greenville 12

I admit that when a team wins the first game in two years you get excited! that is what i did but i have said that BlackBurn is so bad that last years CUC could have beat them. CUC put up over 40 points on EC!!! that says something!!!! and its not good for other teams

More posts later in the week!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 03, 2006, 03:05:21 PM
The truth is that CUC in the past was not good! CUC could not get up for teams that they new they would beat up on! I believe that if CUC played the way they did against EC the same way with BU then it would have been a diffrent story! it did not work out that way and CUC lost to BU!!! I never said anything about the rain. CUC had something on Sat. I just hope they know what it is and keep it! CUC stomed on EC from the first play to the last. If they do close to that against Mac then Mac is in trouble. CUC has always played Mac well and for the first time in a LOOOOOOOONG time the O will be the diffrence in the game for CUC. If they move the ball then CUC will win! the D will do their part. I will tell you what, lets wait for the Lakeland CUC game to see what kind of team lakeland has and if BU is worth what you say they are BUFan!! But i would have to say that this is the best team at CUC since the mid 90's!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on October 03, 2006, 04:05:28 PM
7400west,
I understand your excitement.  However, don't get to overzellous.  Eureka is as bad as Blackburn if not worse.  They are several high school teams that would beat up on the Red Devils.  Give the Cougars 2-3 years.  They have a chance to be a solid team.  I don't think they will win another game the rest of the season, but things are changing at CUC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 03, 2006, 04:27:14 PM
Hey, there are high schools out there that I firmly believe would beat alot of D-III squads.  Have you been watching any of the high school games on ESPN?  They are amazing and full of D-I talent. 

Let's take Oaks Christian High School for example, they have the #1 QB in the nation and the #3 RB in the nation, along with some amazing WRs to boot.  I think they would be able to beat most of the teams in the IBC and alot of other D-III schools as well.  So I don't know what your point is about high school teams being able to beat up on Eureka, they would beat up on alot of D-III.  (In my opinion)

Yeah, I agree give them a couple years and they will have themselves something.  As for this weekends games.

1.  Lakeland vs. Eureka - Lakeland dominates, nothing new here
2.  CUW vs. AU - CUW dominates, nothing new here
3.  MAC vs. CUC - I have no idea what the outcome will be, I say either team wins by 3, maybe around the 13-10 range for either side, toss up game.
4.  BU vs. GC - Greenville gets the win, but only by 7 or less, maybe around 17-14 or 21-17, somewhere around that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 03, 2006, 06:49:19 PM
Baseman201

Your wrong about the high school team beating college teams.  Let me point out I don't include EC, Blackburn and past CUC teams as college football teams.  That being said, the key difference is "grown man" strength.  A 16 year old kid is going to get knocked around on the o-line and d-line.  I see these prospects from Morris, Hinsdale Central, Downers North, and South the past couple years.  These kids are huge and athletic but soft coming out.  They have huge frames and flexible hips.  The high school o-line and d-line would get "monkey stomped" against 22yr old men.  I don't care how fast your wr/rb/qb are they can't run away from 11 angery men.

Lastly, I would like to be referred to as "The Truth" from now on instead of twisted2. 

Thank you
The Truth
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 03, 2006, 07:28:16 PM
Twisted-

I am not talking about the 16 year old kids on the JV squad, I am talking about the senior D-I prospects on the top teams in the country for high school.  Not Morris (even though they were ranked nationally last year) Hinsdale, and the Downer Grove schools.  I am talking about these kids from California, Texas, Florida and the big high school states.  I think they would be able to beat most of the teams in the IBC.  I am sure there will be a game on this weekend featuring top teams in the country again on ESPN, watch and you will see.

Plus I have been to high school games out in California and of course D-III football games.  From what I have personally witnessed, there is no doubt in my mind those High school teams would surprise all of you who think what Twisted thinks.

And I will keep calling you twisted from now on, not the Truth
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 03, 2006, 08:12:06 PM
Baseman, 
       
      I understand what you are trying to say (I'm from Fla) and agree with you in the fact that there are highschool teams with SOME kids who have enough TALENT to beat some DIII players; however, I highly doubt there is a High School team out there with a good enough O-Line and D-line and other areas in between to compete with MOST DIII programs.  The point is there is going to be kids with more talent at SOME positions, just not an entire teams worth.  Which is something that most decent DIII programs have.  And lets not forget the coaching aspect of things. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 03, 2006, 09:09:47 PM
Quote from: Da One on October 03, 2006, 04:05:28 PM
7400west,
I understand your excitement.  However, don't get to overzellous.  Eureka is as bad as Blackburn if not worse.  They are several high school teams that would beat up on the Red Devils.  Give the Cougars 2-3 years.  They have a chance to be a solid team.  I don't think they will win another game the rest of the season, but things are changing at CUC

I would have to say that EC is equally as bad as Blackburn and that being said CUC played better, they had 5 turnovers when they played BlackBurn and I dont remeber how many against EC but it was not that many if any!!!

High School teams can beat up on College teams I used to say that all the time! aside form D1 talent some teams are just well coached and have great players with heart on the high school level!! not saying college doesnot but at my high school and other catholic team around the chicagoland area, the teams played with great passion and did not have that many d1 athletes but many die hard players! Provadince Catholic afew years ago would have beat many IBC and other conf. teams, along with Mount Carmel of a few years ago and mybe even this years team!!!!


lastly i said that if cuc loses sat's game they would not win again but after what happen i will say that CUC beats Mac, mac is in shambles!!!

sorry about the spelling!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 03, 2006, 09:35:49 PM
Im convinced that I played some high school teams that would beat my 2004 Benedictine team.  Yes we were 1-9 and terrible, but I played at Lyons Township, the same conference as a Hinsdale Central and the Downers.'  My junior year we played Maine South in the second round of the playofs and got killed, they won state, 13-0 record.  The would have beaten that BU team I was on.  I feel like an idiot admitting it, but they were an amazing team.  I think it would happen more than we think.  But again, we are in the second worst conference in D3... I dont think the Wisconsin conference and the CCIW has this problem.  Now by me saying more than we think, let me explain.  If you guys think it would happen 3/100, i would say 12-15 outta 100.  thats all

go bears
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 03, 2006, 11:10:16 PM
Yeah 7400  you blow at spelling......but who's paying attention right?



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 04, 2006, 12:32:36 AM
BUfan, 7400West, and baseman201

As a freshman (98) I played with two fifth year seniors from Mount Carmel.  These kids played with McNabb.  One guy was a o-tackle the other a tight end.  Skinny and Pete.  They were excellent football players.  They played @ Carmel 92 and 93.  They were pretty freakin' good back then.  I played with two kids from there 98 team.  A d-tackle (Buffano) and some other kid who quite a couple weeks in.  They showed their highlight tapes.  They told me where all their boys were playing and they agreed that there was no way, man for man, they could touch our team.  Yeah, we were pretty good back then but my point remains, study the o-lines and d-lines.  Watch how basic the offense is and how simple the defense is set up.  I'm not saying their isn't tremendous high school coaches I just don't think the high school kids retain as much as the college athlete.  The systems are much, much simpler.  What would happen if Langston lined up across from Dan Doering (Barington) or Dace Richardson (Warrenville South) when those kids were in high school.  He would own them because he has been playing against better players.  By the way, those kids are both doing well for the Hawkeys.  They were the #1 and #3 ranked o-lineman last year.  They guys next to them couldn't phathem blocking a kid like Langston or that allien that plaed d-end for Lakeland last year.  What was that kids deal!??!?  He was a freak of nature.  Now I'm ramblin'.  Back to my point: Those kids couldn't move there feet with him.  Show me a corner in high school that could cover up White or Folliad or even Sergo.  They can't, not yet.

Another problem that I'm seeing is that we are comparing some of the worst teams ever essembled in college football (EC 00-06, CUC 00' 01' 02' 03' 04', Blackburn and BU 04') history.  Again, I do not count these teams as college ball clubs.  05' Spartans( middle of the pack IBFC) do not loose to any high school team.  I can't believe I have had to argue this point.  Men vs. boys.  The senior (stars) are still just kids!!  18 years old at the MOST!! 

Alright, lets just say "Ya know what, The Truth, your right, your always right on stuff like this, and pretty much everything.  Thanks so much for all the knowledge.  Your a really great guy for taking the time out of your busy day and setting me straight."

Your welcome in advance
The Truth

p.s.  Maddog, help me out hear.  Da One, you've been around the game a minute.  You've been around some good players, you've seen some great high school kids.  Share the knowledge.  These kids just don't know bout that grown man strength.  Think of Ryan the senior in high school, fast as hell, rocket for an arm.  Didn't quite understand how to use these skills.  Ryan the senior at Lakeland.  Yeah, share the knowledge.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 04, 2006, 09:38:58 AM
7400,

How can you sit there and say that CUC always plays Mac well?  I was a Freshman there in '93 and since then don't ever recall getting beat by them.  Hell since '99 they have outscored 'em 348-60!  I know there is a little bit of a resurgence there in River Forrest and that Mac is in the crapper right now, but I just don't see CUC pulling off the W this weekend..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 04, 2006, 10:58:17 AM
yea so MAC 0-4 thats awesome way to go guys, larry just know when u come home to LAKE MARY i will have 2 rings on my hand and u wont have anything sucks bro but hey one of us has to shine  hahah u know ur my boy,


CUW  over AU....i will take CUW in anygame against the conference they were my favorite team to play against   35-17

CUC over MAC 20-7 lol #9 and 22 better have a game

LC over EU 33-14

Greenville over BU 35-10
until next time have a good weekend and be safe to all
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 04, 2006, 05:28:05 PM
Quote from: Twisted2 on October 04, 2006, 12:32:36 AM
BUfan, 7400West, and baseman201

As a freshman (98) I played with two fifth year seniors from Mount Carmel.  These kids played with McNabb.  One guy was a o-tackle the other a tight end.  Skinny and Pete.  They were excellent football players.  They played @ Carmel 92 and 93.  They were pretty freakin' good back then.  I played with two kids from there 98 team.  A d-tackle (Buffano) and some other kid who quite a couple weeks in.  They showed their highlight tapes.  They told me where all their boys were playing and they agreed that there was no way, man for man, they could touch our team.  Yeah, we were pretty good back then but my point remains, study the o-lines and d-lines.  Watch how basic the offense is and how simple the defense is set up.  I'm not saying their isn't tremendous high school coaches I just don't think the high school kids retain as much as the college athlete.  The systems are much, much simpler.  What would happen if Langston lined up across from Dan Doering (Barington) or Dace Richardson (Warrenville South) when those kids were in high school.  He would own them because he has been playing against better players.  By the way, those kids are both doing well for the Hawkeys.  They were the #1 and #3 ranked o-lineman last year.  They guys next to them couldn't phathem blocking a kid like Langston or that allien that plaed d-end for Lakeland last year.  What was that kids deal!??!?  He was a freak of nature.  Now I'm ramblin'.  Back to my point: Those kids couldn't move there feet with him.  Show me a corner in high school that could cover up White or Folliad or even Sergo.  They can't, not yet.

Another problem that I'm seeing is that we are comparing some of the worst teams ever essembled in college football (EC 00-06, CUC 00' 01' 02' 03' 04', Blackburn and BU 04') history.  Again, I do not count these teams as college ball clubs.  05' Spartans( middle of the pack IBFC) do not loose to any high school team.  I can't believe I have had to argue this point.  Men vs. boys.  The senior (stars) are still just kids!!  18 years old at the MOST!! 

Alright, lets just say "Ya know what, The Truth, your right, your always right on stuff like this, and pretty much everything.  Thanks so much for all the knowledge.  Your a really great guy for taking the time out of your busy day and setting me straight."

Your welcome in advance
The Truth

p.s.  Maddog, help me out hear.  Da One, you've been around the game a minute.  You've been around some good players, you've seen some great high school kids.  Share the knowledge.  These kids just don't know bout that grown man strength.  Think of Ryan the senior in high school, fast as hell, rocket for an arm.  Didn't quite understand how to use these skills.  Ryan the senior at Lakeland.  Yeah, share the knowledge.

I don't care what you "think" a college team is and is not!! The FACT is that CUC, EC, Moody Bible, are all colleges!!!! CUC is a University!!!! Who cares how good the team is they are NOT HIGH SCHOOL!!!!

Also, the #1 and #3 ranked olineman in High School would be able to block Langston, no problem. Langston is a d3 player. I don't see his name on the cover of D3football.com nor did I see him when he was in high school, I could have missed him but I like seeing high school players and where they go to college and what happens. I love the sport that much! If you are number 1-10 ranked O-lineman you are going to have something in you that makes you that good and it is the ability to BLOCK OTHERS! Including Langston!!! End of story!!

And I will give you credit when you start making sense!!


Now on to Mac5seven!,

          Three years ago we played mac at home and were stopped on a crucial 4th and one play, after that the team(curf) had a bad way of going in the tank as any poor team would!

           Two years ago, Curf and the worst team in years and went over to Jackson to play on the worst field in college and had a great day in comparison to the season, we played better against you then BU or EC that year!!!

           Last year, the team was a hair away from being just as bad and for the first half were right along side you.

I am not looking 10 years in the past I am looking at recent history, I don't look that far in the past because before I came to college I did not even know what the IBFC was. All I know is what I have seen!!!Mac loses this one because of the way they play they don't deserve to win, nor do they deserve to have any all conf. players at the end of the year because of the way they play and are coached to play!

Good Luck all teams and Go cougars!!!!!

Congrats to Jason Weeks and Chris Tepen for POTW honors of this week!!!! They deserve it!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 04, 2006, 05:42:18 PM
7400 -

Did you shed a little tear after your last post?  Nice enthusiasm! 

Let me ask you this, did CURF win any of those games you just described? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 05, 2006, 01:45:57 AM
I do agree Mac has the worst field I have ever seen in my entire life.  Need to do something about that over there.

Filling the holes with rubber pieces just doesn't cut it.  At least that's what they did when we played them back in 2004.  Who knows what they do now, maybe they actually grew some grass??

Though, Eurekas field does slope and has a trailer park on one end, that could take the prize for worst field in D-III.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2006, 08:11:54 AM
  Gomers picks for this week-end, 10/7.

  (1) CU-C vs Mac:   Mac  again has has no "O" line as evident their 2.5 yds average per offensive play. They give up 4.8 yds per play to the opposition. Looks like the "D" is suspect as well.
   Mac is done, put a fork in them
   CU-C on the other hand, has shown signs of life and has won a couple of games.  They believe and so do i. 
   CU-C will get a big win for their program.
  (2)  CU-W vs AU:  Au, a once really good program, is falling fast while
   CU-W is on top of it`s game.
   CU-W takes it to AU and gets the "W".
  (3)  Greenville Vs BU:  Best game this week....IMO.  Both teams are looking
    up and a win by either will help solidify the advancement of their football program.  Toss up!
   (4) Lakeland vs Eureka:  What can you say? Lakeland will feast on poor
   EC. 
     With all the talk of them dominating the IBC with their NFL players  and getting trounced by some really good teams, LC will now get to show all
    how good they really are........ Beating up on Eureka.
    A hollow victory but a victory none the less.

   
   
   
   
     
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 05, 2006, 08:40:16 AM
QuoteI do agree Mac has the worst field I have ever seen in my entire life.  Need to do something about that over there.

Filling the holes with rubber pieces just doesn't cut it.  At least that's what they did when we played them back in 2004.  Who knows what they do now, maybe they actually grew some grass??

Though, Eurekas field does slope and has a trailer park on one end, that could take the prize for worst field in D-III.


If you think Mac's field is bad now, try palying on it for 4 years when it was off campus.  The field was nothing but clover and weeds and by the end of the year you would think we were a sandlot team.   Better off to wear tennis shoes instead of spikes..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on October 05, 2006, 09:43:35 AM
Twisted2,
  I started the argument that some HS teams could beat lower level D3 teams.  I am talking about top HS teams.  You are right about "grown man" strength.  What you forget is some kids get grown man strength at 16.  I think back to my days at AU when we won 21 straight in the IBC.  We had guys on our team that were studs.  Some of these studs couldn't bench 225lbs.  When I was recruiting in Fla.  I met kids who were benching in the 300's, and they were skill position guys.  On top of that, these were the guys on the team that didn't get the scholarship offers.  I would take Oaks Christain over Eureka all day. 
  I don't know if the top o-line man in HS would be able to block Langston.  Is there a player like Langston on CUC or Eureka? 
  I made the statement hoping to help the CUC fans keep their victory over Eureka in perspective.  Yes, thinks are changing at CUC.  However they are a long long way from being a "good" D3 team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 05, 2006, 10:28:57 AM
yea somebody at MAC didnt know how to order field turf that was what we were suppose to get not grass with rubber and i played at MAC and to me the field was terriable it was nice that we finally had a on campus field the stands are nice but the field it self was not nice, the old field was sick to but hey we got the job done at both fields, #9 win a game for once lol... everything at MAC is not good all there fields suck
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 05, 2006, 12:03:01 PM
haha, well I guess that answers my question.

Sure you may have filled holes with rubber and had a field that looked like a playground/sandlot, but at least it was flat and didn't slope like at Eureka.  One side is running uphill while the other is running downhill. 

You would think someone in the Reagan family would give some money to actually have a good field.......or just build a brand new school, cause damn.....that whole town is a ****hole

No offense though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 05, 2006, 12:16:23 PM
baseman, you call the town a ****hole and then say "no offense" hahahahaha,

that made me laugh!!!

out of EC and Mac for worst field, Mac took this title!!

the rubber holes with real grass and the fact that you ahve to walk a mile from the locker room does not make it the best place to play! But that could be and advantage if you think about it.

EC's field did slope and it was funny kicking extra points into a trailer park! I also think we scored only going down hill most of time, but we did not score that much int the past.

If CUC beats Mac this weekend it will be the first time in a long time CUC has beaten a conf. team other then EC or BU in years. I dont even know how long!!

Good Luck and I am pulling for you!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on October 05, 2006, 01:08:14 PM
I have a scar on my back from diving for a pass at Mac back in 2000.  I use to call that crappy field "astro dirt."  In 2004, I went to the AU/Mac game.  They moved the field, but the new one was just as bad as the old one.  It has a little more grass, but it holds water and gets torn up fast.  In my opinion the field fits perfectly in Jacksonville "the armpit of Illinois."
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 05, 2006, 01:54:09 PM
Yeah J-ville sucked, but we made the most of it.  However, if you traveled about a mile up College Avenue to where Illinois College is, you wouldn't even think you were in the same city...

Talk about "astro dirt," you should see what we had to practice on...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 05, 2006, 04:03:23 PM
lets face it the pratice field was ****ty when it rained it got all muddy and when that mud dirt it was like we were praticing on concrete but it made us tough thats why we won the conference back to back but yea mac is just a dump in itself and EC field that was funny playing with the trailor park right behind,but hey at least we had somewhere to play football.u guys think CUW can go 10-0 this year an dmaybe get our conference its first win in the playoffs... GO MAC #9 #22
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 05, 2006, 05:10:13 PM

I remember once putting 40 points on EC going down hill in the 1st quarter.  What a blast. 

Good point Da One... many a high school team would put it on EC or CUC.  What was I thinking.

As for the worst field I would have to say Mac.  We went down in 2000 and it was hard as a rock with no grass.  They spray painted the dirt green.  A fella by the name of Vinny Mac would tell us that it was a fast turf.  We believed him because he had 76 years of coaching experience and if you questioned him he would physically kick your ass.  They had couches set up in the end zone and the fans would just ride the heck out of ya.  They had some great teams down in Jacksonville (the armpit of IL) and some great players (Jamie "Pornstache" Lee, Franky Carter, Budda, to name a few) but we managed to take 3 out of 4 while I was at AU.  We also won 25 straight IBFC games before Mac beat us at home.  Bastards!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 05, 2006, 11:45:29 PM
hey there everyone, first time poster....been a reader for awhile though. Just going to give my predictions this weekend without scores, being my first post...

CUC vs MAC- CUC takes this one...Cougs are rollin'
Lakeland vs Eureka- hmmm tough one...kiddin' Lakeland stomps on Eureka...Eureka may score 7 when they are running downhill on their field (doubtful though)
Greenville vs Benedictine- Greenville takes this one, Benedictine isn't that tough. Sorry BUFan, I am sure you'll have something to say.
CUW vs AU- CUW will come out the winner.

Should be a good week of football...enjoy everyone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 06, 2006, 08:36:01 AM
Twisted -

If you saw Jaime now, he looks like Tom Cruise when he was in All the Right Moves..  Hilarious!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: southsox on October 06, 2006, 12:51:57 PM
Team of the week Greenville-- after the big win last week, can they solidify a second place finish in the league.... For the last three or four years most people would agree, that they might not have the best talent, and they lost games, but they never quit fighting. There was a coach at IBC two years ago that spoke admiringly about the way the kids at GC played until the end of the game, even chanting for their teammates-- I think it was something like "pound the rock" or something like that... Could this be the best team at Greenville since the 2000/2001 teams? co-sliac champs one year?

Other than the poor field conditions at Macmurray-- who has the best field??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 06, 2006, 01:13:00 PM
Best artificial surface---CUC

Best Stadium---BU  (would be better if they could add stands to the other side though)

Best natural surface---CUW
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 06, 2006, 03:50:55 PM
i would agree that CUW has the best field i liked the atmospher when MAC went up there to play, i never play at BUs new field, also i liked that field turf at CURF, but CUW takes that title,# 9  and # 22 u guys going to go 0-5 lets go the WU chew chews are coming haha
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 06, 2006, 05:15:41 PM
Benedictine's Stadium is nice, however there is only 1 side of the Stadium.  Driving up to the Stadium or the look across Maple Ave. is beautiful, but the West end is cornfield??  I think they should have cleared out a little patch, perhaps redirect/redesign the adjacent road, and build at least a few bleachers to make it look like an "arena".
Should be a good game this weekend between Benedictine and Greenville.  This one IMO, is tough to call, but I am going to go with the Eagles getting back to 500.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 06, 2006, 05:39:03 PM
two years ago when CUC played BU at BU I heard someone talk about how they were going to put seats on the other side but had some property problems with whoever owned the cornfield! I will say that CUC has the same problem with only haveing one side of stands but they really have no room to put anymore! they did add small stands to the south endzone, When the school starts letting people tail gate with booze it will be the best place to play! For a bad team in the past they did get fairly good crowds!

I will say that MAC has the best Field in the Conf.(natural) CUC has best aritficial.
Out of conf. I will say that ROSE Hulman has the best because they get the money for the cults to training camp there!!


Mac has only scored 20 points all season so far!!!!


CUC wins most games in a season since 92
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 06, 2006, 09:57:05 PM
Yeah, I agree with everyone.

CUC best field
BU best stadium
CUW best natural field

7400, did you mean CUW when you said best natural grass, because you put MAC instead........I hope so at least.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 06, 2006, 09:58:41 PM
yah sorry about that, you are right on top of things Baseman!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lovethegame on October 07, 2006, 06:24:50 PM
MAC WINS!!!!! THEY BEAT CUC 46-41, IT WAS A GREAT GAME, MAC GETS FIRST WIN, IT WAS TRULY A TEAM WIN. SEEING QB 15 BACK CHANGED THIS TEAM, THEY LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOW!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 07, 2006, 08:21:31 PM
Mac's offense looked great today with #15 back at quarterback.  He had a great day.  The score is pretty decieving though.  CUC shouldn't have been that close.  Mac had to play the refs too, although I'm not taking anything away from CUC.  They came to play.  Look for Mac to start playing much better though with #15 back to lead them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 07, 2006, 10:26:47 PM
Does anyone know what went on in the rest of conference play today?  What happened with BU GC?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 07, 2006, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: NCAA Football on October 07, 2006, 08:21:31 PM
Mac's offense looked great today with #15 back at quarterback.  He had a great day.  The score is pretty decieving though.  CUC shouldn't have been that close.  Mac had to play the refs too, although I'm not taking anything away from CUC.  They came to play.  Look for Mac to start playing much better though with #15 back to lead them.

you are seriously out of your mind...anyone that was at the CUC/MAC game could say that the refs were giving it all to MAC. their running back leaning forward BEFORE EACH SNAP, they GAVE him a td right before the half when he was no where near the goal line....STUFFED, they gave MAC an awesome spot their way(about one yard more than one of the refs spotted the ball) to give them a first down instead of 4th down.And wow, how the refs really worked that clock....and also to end it, #1 from MAC should of been ejected after laying out CUC's QB when he was 2 yards out of bounds already. Typical MAC team though, should you expect anything less from a team that has pieces of broken glass laying all over their field??? Guess not. My advice to other teams going to play MAC @ MAC...don't just watch the players, watch the refs too. Good luck to CUC on the rest of their season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 08, 2006, 08:04:35 AM
  CU-W continues it`s roll towards the IBC championship.
 
   Greenville beats BU in OT. I called this game earlier in the week ....Best game of the week.

   Lakeland gets the "W" but Eureka scores on them plus they "only" scored
    45 points.

  MacMurray may have gotten their first win but  the 41 points CU-C scored
  is the highest ever for a CU-C team against Mac.  Mac still not that good.
 
  Lovethegame: FYI..........Caps not allowed. Same as yelling/ hollering.
   Surprised Pat from D-3 hasn`t told you that.  Just a friendly "heads-up".
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on October 08, 2006, 01:23:50 PM
The truth of the matter is Lovethegame is right.  The refs were not bad but they were making bad calls boths ways.  Being at the game I thought that they made more bad calls for Mac side they for Cuc.  Also when #1 hit the QB he was still in bounds but was obviously heading out that is why the flag got thrown not because he was hit out of bounds.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 08, 2006, 01:24:47 PM
Quote from: lovethegame on October 08, 2006, 03:05:40 AM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on October 07, 2006, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: NCAA Football on October 07, 2006, 08:21:31 PM
Mac's offense looked great today with #15 back at quarterback.  He had a great day.  The score is pretty decieving though.  CUC shouldn't have been that close.  Mac had to play the refs too, although I'm not taking anything away from CUC.  They came to play.  Look for Mac to start playing much better though with #15 back to lead them.

you are seriously out of your mind...anyone that was at the CUC/MAC game could say that the refs were giving it all to MAC. their running back leaning forward BEFORE EACH SNAP, they GAVE him a td right before the half when he was no where near the goal line....STUFFED, they gave MAC an awesome spot their way(about one yard more than one of the refs spotted the ball) to give them a first down instead of 4th down.And wow, how the refs really worked that clock....and also to end it, #1 from MAC should of been ejected after laying out CUC's QB when he was 2 yards out of bounds already. Typical MAC team though, should you expect anything less from a team that has pieces of broken glass laying all over their field??? Guess not. My advice to other teams going to play MAC @ MAC...don't just watch the players, watch the refs too. Good luck to CUC on the rest of their season.

This is a joke, the officials called 5 consecutive penalties, 4 of which belonged to mac on bogus ASS passinterference calls. AND IF I HEAR ANOTHER TEAM CRY ABOUT HOW MAC IS DIRTY IM GOING TO SCREAM.

DONT HATE ON MAC YOU CRY BABY FROM CUC IF YOUR TEAM WAS BETTER THAN YOU WOULD HAVE WON, BUT YOUR TEAM SUCKED SO THEY LOST AND NOW WE HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT HOW BAD MAC WAS AND HOW THEY ARE DIRTY. CRY TO SOMEONE WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR TERRIBLE PROGRAM LOSING TO MAC, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU SUCK TO MUCH AND YOU LOST SO HAHAHAHAHAH YOU LOST AND WE WON GO BACK TO CHICAGO AND CRY AND THINK YOUR BETTER BUT YOUR NOT, YOU LOST TO MAC EAT IT.

pretty much a perfect example of someone from MAC...i just don't see how you say the score was "deceiving" CUC's offense was amazing and MAC's D couldn't stop them...as a matter of fact, the only way they WERE able to stop them was when they had pass interference. I'm not being cocky or anything, I am giving it how I saw it and we were both obviously watching a different game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 09, 2006, 10:15:40 AM
MAC's D couldnt stop CUC #9 whats that all about ur suppose to be An ALL-AMERICAN? lol good job # 15 i wish i was still.. but hey good **** on the win lets snap off a 6 game winning streak u guys can do it...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 09, 2006, 01:57:14 PM
The reason there are no stands on the otherside of the BU Sports Complex is that swampy/forested area is protected weltands and cannot be built on.  I dont know if that is permanent or if anything can be done to build on it but that is what we were told.  The reality? Ran out of money.

A great game between BU and GC.  I'm not gonna second coach cooper's decision to put in a defensive back as the kicker to win the game with a Field Goal at the end of regulation.  Not sure if you guys are aware of this, but according to the write up on the scoreboard of this website, the starting corner went in to kick the potential game winner.  I love this kid so i would have trusted him for sure, I'm sure people questioned this move somewhat, but if the previous guy wasn't gettin it done then why not?  Im sure there is more to the scenario but Im not sure of it all.

And yes, BU will beat AU for the first time in history this saturday.  Sorry AU posters, but its gonna happen someday, and it happens to be Octobr 14th.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Bondtec on October 09, 2006, 02:56:13 PM
Seems like the GC/BU game came down to the kickers.  The BU kicker ended up missing an extra point and a field goal, not to mention the last second kick that was missed.  The GC kicker came in and made the extra points and the field goals, not to mention hitting the game-tying one as the scoreboard said.  Seems like that was definitely the difference of the game.  One kicker came though in the clutch and the other didn't.  Crazy how the players play the whole game and it ends up coming down to the foot of the kicker.  Tough way to go out if your BU.  The GC kicker seemed strong and i wouldn't be surprised if he was the best kicker in the conference, although I haven't seen them all so that is just my opinion.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 09, 2006, 06:10:29 PM
MAC will not win another game all season, simple as that.  I don't know what this 6 game winning streak talk is all about.  Your defense was flat out dominated by CUC, unfortunately as the score shows so was CUCs.

CUC ends the season with more wins that Mac does, I have no idea when the last time that happened was.......someone fill me in?

Unfortunately for CUC the rest of their games are against the best teams in the conference, I love CUC and I have no doubts they are getting better, but they just can't stack up against CUW or Lakeland yet.  Now, seeing how AU has played, I see hope for CUC against them.  Greenville is up there with lakeland now (and in my opinion better) but that's another issue. 

BUT........CUC will win more games then Mac this year and also win more games then the past 2 years combined, which is a great start to hopefully good years to come for them.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 09, 2006, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: lovethegame on October 07, 2006, 06:24:50 PM
MAC WINS!!!!! THEY BEAT CUC 46-41, IT WAS A GREAT GAME, MAC GETS FIRST WIN, IT WAS TRULY A TEAM WIN. SEEING QB 15 BACK CHANGED THIS TEAM, THEY LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOW!

How can you say it was a team win when the D let up 41 points!!! I dont know what is going on in jackson il, but something is playing with everyone's mind!!

MacMurry, You are a dirty team and almost lost! I will agree with baseman and you wont win another game.
I think CUC D beat themselves, the Mac D is nothing to be scared of and your O is poor aswell. CUC is kicking themselves, but you have to admit that CUC last week came to play and again this week! The team is really better!
Although the season is not over I am saying Coach P is COY for the IBC with the turn around of the team!
Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 09, 2006, 08:34:21 PM
Quote from: bufan on October 09, 2006, 01:57:14 PM
The reason there are no stands on the otherside of the BU Sports Complex is that swampy/forested area is protected weltands and cannot be built on.  I dont know if that is permanent or if anything can be done to build on it but that is what we were told.  The reality? Ran out of money.

A great game between BU and GC.  I'm not gonna second coach cooper's decision to put in a defensive back as the kicker to win the game with a Field Goal at the end of regulation.  Not sure if you guys are aware of this, but according to the write up on the scoreboard of this website, the starting corner went in to kick the potential game winner.  I love this kid so i would have trusted him for sure, I'm sure people questioned this move somewhat, but if the previous guy wasn't gettin it done then why not?  Im sure there is more to the scenario but Im not sure of it all.

And yes, BU will beat AU for the first time in history this saturday.  Sorry AU posters, but its gonna happen someday, and it happens to be Octobr 14th.



Lets Get serious.......THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN........NOT NOW NOT EVER........BU has improved.....but not that much.........No on OCT 14 AU gets the W.......On their home turf.........But even if it was at BU it would be like last year.......AU WINS...HANDS DOWN......END OF ARGUEMENT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 09, 2006, 08:36:38 PM
Oh yeah and CUC the bottom feeders of this conference will not beat AU......Not in this lifetime
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 09, 2006, 09:53:00 PM
I just love looking on here and seeing how much people down the "bottom feeder" CUC after the games they have played...does the team get any respect at all??? MAC, who has beaten CUC every year almost lost and I would have to say got lucky in many ways...MAC is going downhill, Eureka is just staying downhill and CUC and BU are moving up and a lot of you think this isn't possible. Expect a good game between AU and CUC and AU and Bene. No offense to you FATAL but BU could beat AU and I have no doubt in my mind that CUC can beat them also. AU is no powerhouse like they always were....do you expect AU to come out and roll either BU or CUC? It won't happen, your lifetime must be ending soon, because these two teams are rising.

I guess we will just have to see how things unravel as the season goes on ehh???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 09, 2006, 10:40:18 PM
Fatal Impact...im not sure how you can say this will never happen.  I mean, i can see how you can type it, physically with ure little fingers, but as far as making such a statement is not smart.  Only because after it happens in 6 days, i will not live it down.  7400 West i didnt rub it in his face.  We were just being loyal, competitive guys.  But i will make sure to be a poor sport, and u can do the same if u choose.

I would go as far as to say that CUC could defeat AU within the next 2 years, perhaps this season.  AU has gotten worse every year they have been around since about 2000.  Its a fact, you cant deny it.  So BU hasnt improved that much...lost 51-18 my freshman year, 42-3, my soph year like 60-21 my junior year...to 6-0 at the half my senior year...yes the final was 25-0...but yes they have improved that much.  We each lost to greenville by 7. Now i know that really doesnt indicate much, but it does say they are close enough to where its a virtual coin flip.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 10, 2006, 12:41:48 AM
As far as I'm concerned, everyone should be glad these so-called "bottom feeders" are doing better. It's no secret they've gotten better. I really hope BU and CUC can continue to get better so that they can make the new conference that much better when the time comes. The IBFC has such a horrible reputation and it's about time the teams start to change that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 10, 2006, 01:13:41 AM
Quote from: bufan on October 09, 2006, 10:40:18 PM
Fatal Impact...im not sure how you can say this will never happen.  I mean, i can see how you can type it, physically with ure little fingers, but as far as making such a statement is not smart.  Only because after it happens in 6 days, i will not live it down.  7400 West i didnt rub it in his face.  We were just being loyal, competitive guys.  But i will make sure to be a poor sport, and u can do the same if u choose.

I would go as far as to say that CUC could defeat AU within the next 2 years, perhaps this season.  AU has gotten worse every year they have been around since about 2000.  Its a fact, you cant deny it.  So BU hasnt improved that much...lost 51-18 my freshman year, 42-3, my soph year like 60-21 my junior year...to 6-0 at the half my senior year...yes the final was 25-0...but yes they have improved that much.  We each lost to greenville by 7. Now i know that really doesnt indicate much, but it does say they are close enough to where its a virtual coin flip.

Really........I'm tired of AU not getting any respect......As u tried to imply the weakening of AU....In 2004 Who represented THIS conference in the playoffs and was declared the champion.......AU....not BU not CURF (CUC)....Granted they have improved....I'll give y'all that.....But they will not beat AU.....AU is just more physical........Plus they're a young team.....Now to CUC you say they "could" beat AU.....But it wont happen because its all Logic....CUC loses to MAc (a bad team) and Mac loses to AU.....Granted the improvement on both teams.....AU still comes out the victor in both games
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 10, 2006, 01:32:51 AM
This is like reading Larry King when he had that column ... in USA Today ... very painful ... Try spaces.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 10, 2006, 09:48:51 AM
AU will start getting respect when they stop getting rolled by CUW and losing to Greenville.  The AU team I saw this saturday couldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight.  Physical is not a how I would describe this team. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 10, 2006, 09:54:40 AM
Good games this past weeked throughout the IBC.  CUC wish you guys would of beat MAC. I thought you would have it.  Here is my picks for the week......

Lakeland vs MAC    Lakeland  Wins  34-12
CUW vs CUC           CUW Wins 40-14
Greenville vs EC      GC Wins  35-6

****Game of the Week****
Aurora vs BU           BU Wins 20-14
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 10, 2006, 10:14:48 AM
Yes trucountry, i agree with all your predictions and your scores will be pretty accurate as well.  There is no doubt the AU-BU game will be the closest this week.

Fatal, AU doesnt get respect because what have they done in the last 15 games to earn it?  Yes the team in 2004 was very, very good.  But unfortunately, we have 4 of your coaches and after 2004, that is when things seemed to go downhill, coincidence? No.
Im not sitting here saying BU should get respect for a 10-30 record 2002-2005.  But now, you cant deny that they do deserve some.

Im beginning to be a believe that teams go in cycles.  Some longer than others, but basically what that means is while BU was once a very good team, they declined, and now are on their way up.  AU had their time, now are entering a decline.  I believe it was 7400 West who brought up that Mount Union wasnt just good all of a sudden, and i researched it and he was definitely right.  They were average in the 80's and then the 90's and aughts they are very good.  Moral of the story, BU 20- AU 7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 10, 2006, 10:21:39 AM
Benedictine is just the better team.   Hands down.  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 10, 2006, 01:30:20 PM
So pretty much what your telling me is that with out the coaches, of which AU is well aware of program wise, congrats on running an offense this conference has known since it started, are gonna beat a team that they haven't beaten since lat least '99 and every one of those years beats BU convincingly (except for one, 12-6) and based on that fact that every year BU is the punching bag for every team that all of a sudden they're some bada** force to be reckoned with.......You two need to comeback to reality

As for AU respect.....well in the last 15 games, without including this year due to facts already made relavent, let me see......They held their own against Valpo (and should have won that game), Beat MacMurray, Lost to LC (but who didnt last year), beat EC, beat CURF (now CUC).... AND THE GAME BEFORE THAT THEY BEAT BENEDICTINE 25-0, THAT'S RIGHT BU DIDNT GET ONE POINT, lost by only five to CUW a great team last year and this year, beat an Ump and coming greenville team last year, held their own and scored twice on ALMA, and lost by a TD to cornell,

Why don't you tell me what has BU done in it's last 15 games to earn any respect from IBFC enthusiasts such as myself,
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 10, 2006, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: Twisted2 on October 10, 2006, 09:48:51 AM
AU will start getting respect when they stop getting rolled by CUW and losing to Greenville.  The AU team I saw this saturday couldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight.  Physical is not a how I would describe this team. 

trust me the CUW team will roll pretty much everyone this year....though Gillespie I would say is a little bit overrated......stienmetz appears to be the better back
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 10, 2006, 01:56:01 PM
I'm going with BU over AU because based on this year BU is the better team. We're not talking about last year and some great winning streak Aurora has over BU. We're talkin about this year and that's what counts. Benedictine is 2-4  Aurora is 1-4  the only team that has already played both is Greenville. GC took Benedictine to OT and won. It was a great game and BU played very well.  Aurora vs Greenville Aurora could not get the offense going at all.  Aurora has had trouble moving the ball on offense and  I think that is going to be the difference maker Saturday.
Benedictine WILL win (audience gasp) this Saturday.  Aurora will end the conference 3-4 assuming they get past CUC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 10, 2006, 03:49:20 PM
BuFan talked about teams and cycles. I will say that with the way Lakeland is playing and how good Greenville, BU, and CUC have emerged that this is the transition year. Two bad the conf. is changing and it is a little late for this to be happening but I is. I have nothing against AU but hope BU wins just to add to my point. CUC will score more then 21 points this week, the O is on Fire, But CUW is just too powerful!! I will quote the UC head coach and say this game will be "horse's verses ponies!" 

LC v. MAC= LC 31 Mac 34 if this was the over under I would take the over; I think this games will be closer then that!
CUW v. CUC= CUW 41 CUC 34 "Horses v. Ponies"
GC v. EC= GC 48 EC 17 Greenville will score on them!
AU v. BU= AU 7 BU 10 This could go into overtime and do a lot for BU if they pull it off
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 10, 2006, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 10, 2006, 01:56:01 PM
I'm going with BU over AU because based on this year BU is the better team. We're not talking about last year and some great winning streak Aurora has over BU. We're talkin about this year and that's what counts. Benedictine is 2-4  Aurora is 1-4  the only team that has already played both is Greenville. GC took Benedictine to OT and won. It was a great game and BU played very well.  Aurora vs Greenville Aurora could not get the offense going at all.  Aurora has had trouble moving the ball on offense and  I think that is going to be the difference maker Saturday.
Benedictine WILL win (audience gasp) this Saturday.  Aurora will end the conference 3-4 assuming they get past CUC.

Your logic astounds me.......The one win AU has is Mac......the two that BU have CUC and north park.....Sounds real tough

Plus AU plays more quality teams Pre-Conference, WHile Bu played one tough one on which they get rolled, and one easy one, gaining nothing but a W anyone be able to get....

So why base a descion on a which team should win solely based on the win column, AU takes the week with no game and BU is the better team because they beat North Park, AU beats BU, Beats CUC and there is really no logic that says otherwise.....really no stat, no prior history AU is the better team
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 10, 2006, 06:04:44 PM
7400-

Though, I would love to think CUC can score 34 against CUW, I just don't think it will happen.  Yes, they are getting better but against an already amazing CUW team that is getting better themselves.

Picks:

CUW vs. CUC - CUW is the future IBC champion and hopefully the first one to win a playoff game, just to much for CUC this year, they roll 41-14
LC vs. Mac - Lakeland rolls by 3-4 TDs
GC vs. EC - my "butt kicking 1/2" game of the week.  GC shuts out EC 52-0
BU vs. AU - BU OR AU (toss up game) takes this one on a winning field goal at the last second to win 17-14
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on October 10, 2006, 09:37:49 PM
Fatal-

Will u be at the game Sat?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 10, 2006, 09:44:52 PM
I dont think we need a reality check Fatal.  You have a ex-player from CUC, GC, BU saying they think BU will win.  It isnt like they are against you ar AU, they just think that BU is better this season.  Its not like we are playing Mount Union here.  We are playing a below average AU team.  And I did specifically say "Im not sitting here saying BU should have respect for the last 4 seasons" I said that almost verbatim.  So I dont have to tell you anything.  Cause ure right, we dont have anything to brag about at all.  But we are going up and AU is going down. THAT IS REALITY
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 10, 2006, 10:06:50 PM
7400

lakeland score 3 tds on GC's defense. Au scored 0. Bene scored 1 td. i would be surprise if Eureka can score on their defense. anything can happen but 17 points is a stretch.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 10, 2006, 10:41:42 PM
Fatal. The win column was just a fact. The other fact you forgot to mention was that Greenville is the only team that has played Aurora and BU and from what I saw I am going with BU.  Benedictine is just the better team in my opinion. Aurora's offense isn't as good as BU basically. I know i know what your gonna say........Four Score and Seven years ago Aurora dominated everybody in this conference and blah blah blah blah. It's the 2006 season not the 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001. etc.  I think Aurora will be fired up and that will need lead to a good game trying to keep the whole life long winning streak alive but hey thats why i picked ya to lose only by 6.  but good luck
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 11, 2006, 01:55:28 AM
Quote from: Chili dog on October 10, 2006, 09:37:49 PM
Fatal-

Will u be at the game Sat?


Yes

Quote from: Genius on October 10, 2006, 10:06:50 PM
7400

lakeland score 3 tds on GC's defense. Au scored 0. Bene scored 1 td. i would be surprise if Eureka can score on their defense. anything can happen but 17 points is a stretch.

AU scored one on GC's defense.....GC scores only 2 on the AU defense

Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 10, 2006, 10:41:42 PM
Fatal. The win column was just a fact. The other fact you forgot to mention was that Greenville is the only team that has played Aurora and BU and from what I saw I am going with BU.  Benedictine is just the better team in my opinion. Aurora's offense isn't as good as BU basically. I know i know what your gonna say........Four Score and Seven years ago Aurora dominated everybody in this conference and blah blah blah blah. It's the 2006 season not the 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001. etc.  I think Aurora will be fired up and that will need lead to a good game trying to keep the whole life long winning streak alive but hey thats why i picked ya to lose only by 6.  but good luck

Tru, I didnt bring up the past, Bufan did, I was just showing him what respect U should get

AU's offense could be better, but BU cant handle AU's defense

Quote from: bufan on October 10, 2006, 09:44:52 PM
I dont think we need a reality check Fatal.  You have a ex-player from CUC, GC, BU saying they think BU will win.  It isnt like they are against you ar AU, they just think that BU is better this season.  Its not like we are playing Mount Union here.  We are playing a below average AU team.  And I did specifically say "Im not sitting here saying BU should have respect for the last 4 seasons" I said that almost verbatim.  So I dont have to tell you anything.  Cause ure right, we dont have anything to brag about at all.  But we are going up and AU is going down. THAT IS REALITY

AU will win and that bufan is reality
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superstar on October 11, 2006, 01:56:46 AM

aurora dominated everyone in 98, 99 too and dont forget 2000.  as far as BU...  if my story is correct when AU first brought back football in 1986 the former IBC  ( illinois benedictine college)  beat AU like 60 to 0 which pissed the spartans off and every since then pretty much domination.  so BU has beat AU at least once.  hopefully never again but i know coop and im sure hes got them boys at BU ready.  does anyone know what happen to Hornung?  is he coming back next year?  peace and good luck to AU and coach coop.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 11, 2006, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 10, 2006, 06:04:44 PM
7400-

Though, I would love to think CUC can score 34 against CUW, I just don't think it will happen.  Yes, they are getting better but against an already amazing CUW team that is getting better themselves.

Picks:

CUW vs. CUC - CUW is the future IBC champion and hopefully the first one to win a playoff game, just to much for CUC this year, they roll 41-14
LC vs. Mac - Lakeland rolls by 3-4 TDs
GC vs. EC - my "butt kicking 1/2" game of the week.  GC shuts out EC 52-0
BU vs. AU - BU OR AU (toss up game) takes this one on a winning field goal at the last second to win 17-14
Quote from: Genius on October 10, 2006, 10:06:50 PM
7400

lakeland score 3 tds on GC's defense. Au scored 0. Bene scored 1 td. i would be surprise if Eureka can score on their defense. anything can happen but 17 points is a stretch.


I am sticking with my gut on this one and it has gotten bigger since i have not played football!!!! I think CUC has a fairly good day on O! I just love the O that CUC runs and think CUW will come out light, But it is going to be too much for the D. I think CUW might score more then i thought!
Eureka can score, I think they get up for this game and play better then the past few weeks. I dont know anything about the GC def. But i just have to think that 17points is possible for EC!

Good Luck and Lets see some exciting games on Sat!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 11, 2006, 09:59:32 AM
LC vs MAC... MAC loses again on there homecoming,  52-7, # 22 scores only TD, #9 gets ran all over lol, i know u see that..

CUW vs CUC.. landslide  70-7

GC vs EC   45-13

AU vs BU.... BU 21-20

GOOD LUCK THIS WEEKEND MAC THE PAIN TRAIN IS COMING INTO TOWN AND #9 IS GOING TO BE ON THE BOTTOM, NAW IM JK # 9 WILL HAVE A GAME THIS IS BRANTLEY FOR HIM AND THAT BRINGS OUT THE LM FOOTBALL IN HIM.......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Chili dog on October 11, 2006, 10:02:08 AM
Fatal-

I will prolly show up for a little on Sat too so why dont you come on over and say hi. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 11, 2006, 10:59:42 AM
7400 West, 
   Greenville's Defense is one of the best in the conference. Actually their 2nd best in the conference and 44th in the Nation.  CUW gives up 227 yds total a game and GC gives up 245.   In 5 games Greenville's defense has allowed only 2 TD's before halftime.  BU & Lakeland are the only team to get TD's before halftime against GC.  BU got theirs in the first quarter and Lakeland got theirs in the 2nd quarter right before half. (Lakeland got a TD in the 1st quarter but on a kickoff return against special teams). 
The 3rd quarter GC has given up 1 TD also to Lakeland. So in 5 games through 3 quarters GC has given up 3 TD's.  GC's defense has the best chance in the IBC to slow down CUW's on offense. 
GC's defense is weakest in the 4th quarter giving up 46 points in the 4th quarter.  That's crappy but the rest is awesome
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 11, 2006, 12:33:55 PM
"AU will win and that bufan is reality"

No fatal, that is a prediction because it hasnt happened yet.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 11, 2006, 01:05:54 PM
Greenville can get 17 points scored on them!!! that is all i am saying
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 11, 2006, 02:31:02 PM
Quote from: bufan on October 11, 2006, 12:33:55 PM
"AU will win and that bufan is reality"

No fatal, that is a prediction because it hasnt happened yet.

But it WILL HAPPEN
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 11, 2006, 03:25:15 PM
FatalImpact,

You are correct that Au scored on the GC defense. I forgot that they blocked a punt and got the ball on the 4 yard line with about 3 minutes left in the game.

So they had to move the ball a whopping 4  yards to get on the scoreboard at the end of the game.

But, you  were correct it wasn't a shut out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 11, 2006, 06:41:48 PM
Quote from: Genius on October 11, 2006, 03:25:15 PM
FatalImpact,

You are correct that Au scored on the GC defense. I forgot that they blocked a punt and got the ball on the 4 yard line with about 3 minutes left in the game.

So they had to move the ball a whopping 4  yards to get on the scoreboard at the end of the game.

But, you  were correct it wasn't a shut out.

Calm down tough guy......it dont matter if they drove the field or four yards......If the GC defense was so good, why couldnt they hold them those four yards......You still didnt have your stat correct.....Double check these things next time
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 11, 2006, 07:16:05 PM
Fatal did u really just say that it didnt matter if it as 4 yards or the whole field?  You cant expect the chicago bears to stop even the worst offense in the NFL on the 4 yard line.  The chances are just so good for that offense to score from that close.  If you get a yard a play ure in the endzone. 
Fatal Impact, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this chat room is now dumber for having read what you wrote. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 11, 2006, 07:51:42 PM
A simple "no" would have been fine but... ok :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 11, 2006, 07:54:15 PM
Is there ANY way to get my karma points moving in the positive direction?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 11, 2006, 11:40:14 PM
Quote from: bufan on October 11, 2006, 07:16:05 PM
Fatal did u really just say that it didnt matter if it as 4 yards or the whole field?  You cant expect the chicago bears to stop even the worst offense in the NFL on the 4 yard line.  The chances are just so good for that offense to score from that close.  If you get a yard a play ure in the endzone. 
Fatal Impact, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this chat room is now dumber for having read what you wrote. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Billy Madison is so cool....No wonder you went to BU.........Lemme see, if you got a yard a play you'd score, but over the last couple of years BU could probably have the ball on the 1 and still turn it over on downs...Cuz BU is that good......My intention was to say that y'all were talking like this defense was the Bear's defense so I was simply making the point that if their defense was so good they would have made the stop...Don't blame the AU offense for the special teams coming through and giving them a premium opportunity

So what your telling me is that if the detroit lions (IMO the worst team in the NFL....Maybe the Dolphins) had the ball on the 4 you dont think the Bears could stop them....I Do......You must be a fairweather fan huh? Yeah I bet.

And believe me I'm smarter than you and God has plenty of Mercy on me because of what I am and What I do

You should be thanking god that y'all have Coop or BU would still be in the 1-9, 0-10 bracket and be battling to be the toliet bowl champions
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 12, 2006, 08:38:14 AM
Saw that CU-W cracked the Top 25 in the AFCA Poll.  Congrats! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 12, 2006, 08:40:12 AM
The deserve it
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 12, 2006, 08:45:29 AM
How are the Karma points accumulated?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 12, 2006, 08:49:56 AM
congrats CUW!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 12, 2006, 09:10:14 AM
untill i hear diffrent I think the karma points thing means nothing! But I have been wrong in the past!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 12, 2006, 09:42:44 AM
Yeah like saying CUC was going to beat Mac.. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 12, 2006, 10:07:05 AM
I thought CUC would beat MAC, they prolly should of. MAC only get's 3 wins this season. 


Fatal-
Do you think when Benedictine beats AU this Saturday October 14, 2006 (write it down) that Aurora may be in such disbelief  that maybe next Saturday they let emotion get the best of them and lose to CUC?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 12, 2006, 11:36:09 AM
Shoulda, coulda, woulda.. 

I was totally joking.  Trust me, I know Mac is in the crapper.. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 12, 2006, 12:09:07 PM
Yeah, I agree MAC gets 3 wins this year too, if they can't beat Eureka or Blackburn then they have more problems then they thought.

Everyone is so sure that BU will beat AU.  I think it comes down to a field goal in the final seconds to decide the game.  With either team coming out on top, this is a HUGE toss up game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 12, 2006, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 12, 2006, 12:09:07 PM
Yeah, I agree MAC gets 3 wins this year too, if they can't beat Eureka or Blackburn then they have more problems then they thought.

Everyone is so sure that BU will beat AU.  I think it comes down to a field goal in the final seconds to decide the game.  With either team coming out on top, this is a HUGE toss up game.

I think AU wins......No one has offered any proof or tangible stat to prove otherwise...If anyone dose all Ive seen is a W for BU over North Park, The worst team in the CCIW and a W over CUC.....Mac beats CUC...AU beats Mac ....Which would tell a logical person that AU beats CUC....Even though any given day....But AU will beat BU and then beat CUC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 12, 2006, 01:40:10 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on October 12, 2006, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 12, 2006, 12:09:07 PM
Yeah, I agree MAC gets 3 wins this year too, if they can't beat Eureka or Blackburn then they have more problems then they thought.

Everyone is so sure that BU will beat AU.  I think it comes down to a field goal in the final seconds to decide the game.  With either team coming out on top, this is a HUGE toss up game.

I think AU wins......No one has offered any proof or tangible stat to prove otherwise...If anyone dose all Ive seen is a W for BU over North Park, The worst team in the CCIW and a W over CUC.....Mac beats CUC...AU beats Mac ....Which would tell a logical person that AU beats CUC....Even though any given day....But AU will beat BU and then beat CUC

Aurora plays Greenville - only score from a block punt and had to go only 4 yds.   Had a Total of 59yds rushing.

Benedictine plays Greenville- Scores in the 1st quarter only team to do that so far against GC's Defense, and loses in overtime. Has 153yds rushing. 

I didn't say CUC would be Aurora I was wondered if you thought it could happen with a loss to BU on Saturday, AU could fold up and be done.  AU & MAC end season with 3 wins.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 12, 2006, 01:52:47 PM
Is Coach Cooper that big of a difference maker in the AU/BU game?  Coach Cooper's last year @ Aurora, the Spartans about upset Wooster in the playoffs.  BU was terrible, now BU is drastically improved football team and AU has struggled with the transition.  Why didn't Coach Cooper get the head job @ AU?  Anyone?  I recall BU fans wondering after the hire, "Why didn't AU hire this guy?  Why hasn't he been a HC yet?"  Now you got him and your starting to get it.  He's a hell of a coach and has hired some talented coaches to surround him.  It should be a good game this weekend.  I see the over/under @  26 points
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2006, 02:54:36 PM
   Gomers picks for saturday, 10/14.

   (1)  BU vs AU: Both teams are 1-2 in conference play. History tells me AU
     is/has been the better team althought not by much, of late anyway.
     Both teams need this game to turn the corner some what  but IMO,
      AU takes this game.
   (2)  CU-C vs CU-W:  My hats off to CU-C for their performance so far but
     this saturday the Hand of Thor will bring them back to reality!
     CU-W  gets the "W" and a bunch of points.
    (3) Greenville vs Eureka: Greenville is 2-1 and Eureka is 0-3 in conference play.  Greenville will pull a CU-W on poor Eureka and blow them out.
   (4)  Lakeland vs Mac.  In the last couple of years LC has owned Mac
     and this year it won`t be any different.
    Mac has their senior QB back but as there is no "O" line in front of him
    he will be running for his life and that will  excite the LC "D" line into a
     feeding  frenzy.  LC wins BIGGGGG.

   
   

         
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 12, 2006, 04:54:17 PM
CUW is probably one of the most impressive D3 teams I watched in a long time. AU didn't play bad against them, AU has good defense (2 picks in that game), a young O line who are gaining experience and 2 up & coming QBs. For a young team they play well and will get better. But CUW is way above anything in this conference, certainly better than last years LAKE's team. CUW will end up 10-0 and for sure they will win their first playoff game. These men are that good. By the way AU will not lose to BU, to much young talent on the AU team. They lost to GRN (who by the way is a good team) due mental errors and inexperience. That won't happen this Saturday. Duncan is a good coach and his players like him and will play for him. The Cooper factor (if there is one) will not enter into the outcome of this matchup.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_7_seven on October 12, 2006, 07:50:47 PM
Why all the love for CUC?  So what that they have won a few games this year.  Let be honest Mac and Lakeland had a few good years, but CUW and AU are the cream of the crop.  This conferance has not even won a single game in the first round of the playoffs. Back to CUC and the love for the new coach.  He may be a breath of fresh air to a program that sucks, but let not make him out to be the next great coach of the conf.  Lets remember that Frey did not lose a conf game for at least 2 if not 3 years.  Slow your role about the next greatest coach of the IBC. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 12, 2006, 11:03:25 PM
I think Coach P is the coach of the year for what he has done to CUC!! He took a team that had no spark in them for a long time and turned that around!
Coach of the year is not the same as Coach of all time Macfive7!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 13, 2006, 01:14:42 AM
to add about my post above, I think along with others that when you are thinking about the coach of the year you most likely pick the coach who wins the conf. In most cases that is true, unless another team show quality improvment, that is what cuc has done and that is why if my vote counted Coach P has it, hats off to the CUW coach but CUC's season is something that cannot be overlooked!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 13, 2006, 01:38:40 AM
has cuc beat anyone with a winning record? have they beaten anyone with more than 1 win? i didn't check the stats but i'm pretty sure they haven't. Blackburn...garbage, Eureka...enough said, Mac...program in severe disarray and lost to them.

if CUC wins another conference game then they have shown significant improvement. Better yet, they don't have to win another game just play close to one of them.

Slow your roll. you're on the right track. but priess ain't charlie wiess just yet.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 13, 2006, 01:42:11 AM
An observation,

It is interesting how Reeno10 was talking so highly of Mac, priollo, #22 and the rest of the crew. Now he is one of the biggest mac bashers of them all. With alumni like that who needs enemies.

mac program, inside and outside, needs people who will be positive. the win/loss record speaks for itself...no need state the obvious, especailly from the former mac players in this chat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 09:11:44 AM
For Coach of the Year the 2 candidates that I think would be closest for top honors would be CUW's coach and everything they have done so far so help this conference out. Especially if they win a playoff game.  The other coach I would go with is Greenville's Coach Hehman. Greenville in 2004 was (3-7 3-4) and in 2003 (3-7 2-5).  The past two years Greenville has made some major change in how they play.  I mean last year with how good LC was and Greenville came as close as they did to beating them (7 points). Then last year against CUW which lost to LC by 3. Greenville once again taking the game down to the wire and losing by 5 to CUW.
This year Greenville will prolly be tied with Lakeland for 2nd place in the Conference. The program has been totally turned around and are a threat to everyone.  Even a major threat to CUW.  Depending on how the CUW vs Greenville game turns out will show alot of this new Greenville team. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2006, 10:45:29 AM
 Mac_7_Seven:
     
     Do you happen to know what became of Coach Frey after he left
        Tri-State?   Anybody??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 13, 2006, 10:51:18 AM
Gomer -

He's the O-Line coach at Olivet.  Kind of ironic.  When he was head coach, he HATED the fat O-Linemen..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 13, 2006, 11:17:32 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 09:11:44 AM
For Coach of the Year the 2 candidates that I think would be closest for top honors would be CUW's coach and everything they have done so far so help this conference out. Especially if they win a playoff game.  The other coach I would go with is Greenville's Coach Hehman. Greenville in 2004 was (3-7 3-4) and in 2003 (3-7 2-5).  The past two years Greenville has made some major change in how they play.  I mean last year with how good LC was and Greenville came as close as they did to beating them (7 points). Then last year against CUW which lost to LC by 3. Greenville once again taking the game down to the wire and losing by 5 to CUW.
This year Greenville will prolly be tied with Lakeland for 2nd place in the Conference. The program has been totally turned around and are a threat to everyone.  Even a major threat to CUW.  Depending on how the CUW vs Greenville game turns out will show alot of this new Greenville team. 


you bring up some very good points. If anything the coach of the year will be a close one. I think you are right about the greenville coach, the cuw coach i dont think schould win it. I also dont think the team has done much with this conf. I really feel that other conf. laugh at us! But between the greenville coach and CUC is going to be a close one. I think the game between them will show alot!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 13, 2006, 11:26:17 AM
"has cuc beat anyone with a winning record? have they beaten anyone with more than 1 win? i didn't check the stats but i'm pretty sure they haven't. Blackburn...garbage, Eureka...enough said, Mac...program in severe disarray and lost to them.

if CUC wins another conference game then they have shown significant improvement. Better yet, they don't have to win another game just play close to one of them.

Slow your roll. you're on the right track. but priess ain't charlie wiess just yet."


going from 0-20 to 2-3 good, i dont care who you play. the team was so bad in the past. beating EC and scoring 41 points is the proof of the teams change. If this was any other year  and lets just say the cougars got lucky it would have been a closer game. plus, the teams mind set has changed, they walk with their heads a little higher now! That is the signs of a good coach and strategy. winning a losing is the most noticable change but the tudes of the players are very importent aswell.

Oh and Charlie Wiess is over rated, unlike Coach Preis!

(GO NORTHWESTER!!)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 12:08:01 PM
Good luck everyone in the IBC tomorrow.
Tomorrow CUC is the crocadile hunter and CUW is one big sting ray.
Good Luck!

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 12:21:01 PM
oh ya I almost forgot good luck to BU and AU.  Should be an awesome game. Benedictine gets the win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2006, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: mac_5_seven on October 13, 2006, 10:51:18 AM
Gomer -

He's the O-Line coach at Olivet.  Kind of ironic.  When he was head coach, he HATED the fat O-Linemen..

    Thanks for the up-date. 
     

   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 13, 2006, 03:50:12 PM
Coach Gabe at CUW is the most deserving so far.  Year in and year out he is the best coach.  Probably should be coaching some where higher up.  D-coordinator at a D1 for sure.  He with the lakeland head coach are the best.  Just cause a team has a bad year doesn't mean bad coach.(coach Z)  There are cycles.  But Coach Gabe has kept great teams in Mequon wisconsin.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 13, 2006, 04:11:33 PM
Coach Scott coached in the IBFC for 7 years, winning 4 confrence titles and 4 coach of the year awards.  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say when CUW whens confrence this year Gabe will get his Coach of the Year award. 


AU vs BU prediction

AU will hold Joey Sergio to zero yards and zero rec.  Joey will be a none factor... just like last year! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 04:45:59 PM
what's with these schools changin their mascots because their Indian names or Tribes. It's those damn tree huggin, PETA people that cause all those problems,  I'll remember you hippie people when I'm shooting my Bow tomorrow morning at some big Buck.   flippin queers!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 13, 2006, 05:16:32 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 04:45:59 PM
what's with these schools changin their mascots because their Indian names or Tribes. It's those damn tree huggin, PETA people that cause all those problems,  I'll remember you hippie people when I'm shooting my Bow tomorrow morning at some big Buck.   flippin queers!


PETA= People for the ethical treatment of ANIMALS.............
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 13, 2006, 05:57:59 PM
IF A COACH IS GOOD ALL THE TIME AND HAS A BAD YEAR IS DOES NOT DESERVE TO GET THE COACH OF THE YEAR AWARD FOR THAT YEAR. THIS IS VERY SIMPLE!!!!!!!!

Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 12:08:01 PM
Good luck everyone in the IBC tomorrow.
Tomorrow CUC is the crocadile hunter and CUW is one big sting ray.
Good Luck!



that is just wrong!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 08:02:04 PM
Fatal,
        I know what PETA stands for  their always sending me their crappy letters because I'm own a cattle farm & they somehow they know I hunt everything and then send me letters about that two. Their retarded.  I just mentioned PETA because they sponsored organizations at U of I to get Chief Illiniwek removed. 
Has anyone got a deer this year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 13, 2006, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on October 11, 2006, 09:59:32 AM
LC vs MAC... MAC loses again on there homecoming,  52-7, # 22 scores only TD, #9 gets ran all over lol, i know u see that..

CUW vs CUC.. landslide  70-7

GC vs EC   45-13

AU vs BU.... BU 21-20

GOOD LUCK THIS WEEKEND MAC THE PAIN TRAIN IS COMING INTO TOWN AND #9 IS GOING TO BE ON THE BOTTOM, NAW IM JK # 9 WILL HAVE A GAME THIS IS BRANTLEY FOR HIM AND THAT BRINGS OUT THE LM FOOTBALL IN HIM.......

Wow, you actually think that CUW will beat CUC that bad???CUC beat Eureka 41-12 and Eureka scored on CUC's second string D for their 12 instead of 6. CUW beat Eureka 56-0. I don't know what they did that game but I am sure they took their starters out also (it would be the smart thing to do against such a crap team) Regardless the ending score, I think you give way too much credit and CUW will not score 70 points and CUC will score more than 7. Horrible prediction and I really hope you were doing it to just piss someone off.
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 12:08:01 PM
Good luck everyone in the IBC tomorrow.
Tomorrow CUC is the crocadile hunter and CUW is one big sting ray.
Good Luck!



and to this, TruCountry, you always have good things to say and this kinda shot you in the foot...its kinda too early for jokes like that. RIP Steve Irwin :'(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 13, 2006, 10:05:10 PM
7400 west

3 superbowls and winning with a qb everybody pasted up (tom brady). i wouldn't consider that being overrated. How has belicheck fared without charlie wiess?

Priess is a fine football coach. I agree with all of your comment. however, the job he has done thus far is worth a pat on the back and credit...but not a coach of the year award.

Coach Gab at CUW or coach z at lakeland maybe recruiters of the year of the conference. However, having the best talent and winning with it isn't as difficult as having inferior talent and playing close to someone much better.

Examples- ND vs USC last year. ND lost but USC got out coached. Their ain't no way that game should have been close considering the talent for usc.

Ben vs Lakeland this year. Ben lost, but to played lakeland as close as they did with the talent differential and youth is huge. That is good coaching.

GC vs CUW and Lakeland in 05. Lose by 5 to cuw and 6 to lakeland. I'm not sure if anyone other than #25 lb for GC would start on either of those teams. THAT IS COACHING.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 13, 2006, 11:56:13 PM
Trucountry95-- "Has anyone got a deer this year?"
To borrow a line from "My Cousin Vinny" and the beautiful Marisa Tomei,  Bambi goes to the brook, bows her head to take a drink, and then BAM!  You blow her head off.
I am an animal lover but also think that PETA sometimes goes "overboard"... just remember that there are some people who might take offense to a comment like this.
I am happy to see that CUC has won 2 ballgames and is shooting for Win #3 for the first time since 1992 (I believe).  I hope the Cougars can get that W which would be a big boost for the school.  Coach Pruess is doing a great job over there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 14, 2006, 02:52:51 AM
Well you're talkin' about people......HIPPIES SUCK
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 14, 2006, 10:03:21 AM
Yeah, I hate hippies, animal rights activists, liberals, environmentalists, etc..., that's something hopefully all of us can agree on.

Anyhow, 7400, though I love CUC Pries has no reason to even come close to winning the coach of the year award, sure he has won 2 more games than the previous 2 years, but that's not worth a coach of the year.  Now, if CUC went 8-2, then I would say by all means give it to him.  But without a winning record or a conference championship I don't think Pries deserves anything but a "pat on the back" like someone said.

BUT, I did love watching Steve Irwin......makes me sad, who would have thought sting ray would have done him in......

EITHER WAY, let's have some good games today.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 14, 2006, 04:20:40 PM
Seriously it was just a joke about Steve Irwin. He was awesome, God Bless him.   

The deer comment, I just wanted to know if we had any other hunters in here and if we did,  has anyone got a nice deer yet this season?  Is everyone from the Chicago area in here?  By Chicago area I mean anything North of Springfield, IL.   

Start of 4th Quarter          Greenville-  13             Eureka- 7

what the heck is going on?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 14, 2006, 05:03:29 PM
End of Game             Greenville- 26            Eureka-20

I have no idea....................
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on October 14, 2006, 05:34:56 PM
Not going to lie, Mac Vs. Lake gets my vote for the game of the week this week.  Was a very exciting game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 14, 2006, 05:40:14 PM
CUW - 31 CUC - 20

Wow, CUC has improved alot more then once thought eh...........

Alot of good close games today it seems though.

Every game seemed to be entertaining.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 14, 2006, 06:01:30 PM
Many good Games this week.......WOW.......AU 15....BU 7.....AU gets the W....Reality.......Anyway, who knows the final for LC and Mac?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 14, 2006, 06:17:27 PM
LC 24, Mac 16

Lakeland allowed just 135 total yards (only 25 on the ground), and one of Mac's touchdowns came off a blocked punt.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 14, 2006, 06:20:16 PM
Wow....thats actually pretty close.....Again great games this week...Well most of them anyway
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 14, 2006, 07:28:30 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on October 13, 2006, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on October 11, 2006, 09:59:32 AM
LC vs MAC... MAC loses again on there homecoming,  52-7, # 22 scores only TD, #9 gets ran all over lol, i know u see that..

CUW vs CUC.. landslide  70-7

GC vs EC   45-13

AU vs BU.... BU 21-20

GOOD LUCK THIS WEEKEND MAC THE PAIN TRAIN IS COMING INTO TOWN AND #9 IS GOING TO BE ON THE BOTTOM, NAW IM JK # 9 WILL HAVE A GAME THIS IS BRANTLEY FOR HIM AND THAT BRINGS OUT THE LM FOOTBALL IN HIM.......

Wow, you actually think that CUW will beat CUC that bad???CUC beat Eureka 41-12 and Eureka scored on CUC's second string D for their 12 instead of 6. CUW beat Eureka 56-0. I don't know what they did that game but I am sure they took their starters out also (it would be the smart thing to do against such a crap team) Regardless the ending score, I think you give way too much credit and CUW will not score 70 points and CUC will score more than 7. Horrible prediction and I really hope you were doing it to just piss someone off.
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 13, 2006, 12:08:01 PM
Good luck everyone in the IBC tomorrow.
Tomorrow CUC is the crocadile hunter and CUW is one big sting ray.
Good Luck!



and to this, TruCountry, you always have good things to say and this kinda shot you in the foot...its kinda too early for jokes like that. RIP Steve Irwin :'(


Quote from: baseman201 on October 14, 2006, 05:40:14 PM
CUW - 31 CUC - 20

Wow, CUC has improved alot more then once thought eh...........

Alot of good close games today it seems though.

Every game seemed to be entertaining.


that pat on the back just went from funny to handing Coach P an award. How can you say he is a fine coach after holding the "best team" o to just 31 and putting up 20 on the "best team's" d!!!!!! If CUW had a shot at winning the IBC's first conf. game, that just went down the drain!!!!!

CONGRATS CUC ON A GAME WELL PLAYED AND A SEASON TO REMEBER FOR A LONG TIME THUS FAR!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 14, 2006, 09:36:22 PM
Yeah, now I am wondering if CUW can get it done against Lakeland to make it to the playoffs after that strong showing from CUC today. 

Anyone at the game care to share what happened?

Bad calls, good plays, game changing play, etc....

Either way, step in the right direction for CUC despite the loss, that's the 25th team in the nation according to the AFCA.

And Reeno, good call on the 70-7

Although I said Greenville would beat Eureka 52-0 so I was way off as well.  The so called "lower" teams of the conference really proved some things today, gotta love it.

Anyone think that CUC can beat AU now??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 14, 2006, 10:07:37 PM
CUW just played like the game was mailed in... A CUW coach made a good point...CUW lost without losing...CUC played with great heart...the QB is awesome...CUW did have control through the whole game but never really put a team away that they should have...I hope this reality check makes CUW ready for lakeland....CUW is still favored though
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 14, 2006, 11:33:36 PM
You say CUW had control the whole game yet the score in the 3rd quarter was 24-20, that doesn't seem like controlling the game to me.

I remember Maddog saying how Langston is a D-I player and an NFL prospect, blah blah blah.  The only thing I hear about Langston is that he has a big mouth and cries alot, nothing special though, just very overrated.  And don't say that CUW played like the game was mailed in, they played the game seriously and they played hard.  Ever thought that maybe CUC is getting better and improving?  Probably not....

Every guy on the team I have talked to knows they can win out.

AU......they are waiting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Falcon77 on October 14, 2006, 11:36:26 PM
I saw the game, and CUW win was never in jeopardy. They did not play their best game, but they played good enungh to win. I saw that some of their normal defensive starters did not play. When you have the biggest conference game coming up next week, it's hard not to look over CUC toward Lakeland. CUW will have a much better showing next week!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_7_seven on October 14, 2006, 11:42:10 PM
Quote from: footballisfun on October 14, 2006, 05:34:56 PM
Not going to lie, Mac Vs. Lake gets my vote for the game of the week this week.  Was a very exciting game.

This was a horrible game.  Mac did not cross mid field in the first half.  First time they crossed mid field was after an interception.  If LU could kick they would have had at least 5 more points.  Do not let the score miss lead you this game was never in question.  When LU had to have a drive they drove right down the field.  I want to be the first McCray has to go.  I do not know if McCray calls the off plays, but who ever does that should be fired as well.  He has ruined everything positive about this program.  I know this is only D#, but a fire McCray web site should be started.  Mac is a dirty undisciplne team that flat out SUCKS.  I went and played there and it pains me to say these things.  He has moved this program back 3 years
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 15, 2006, 12:32:08 AM
Quote from: Falcon77 on October 14, 2006, 11:36:26 PM
I saw the game, and CUW win was never in jeopardy. They did not play their best game, but they played good enungh to win. I saw that some of their normal defensive starters did not play. When you have the biggest conference game coming up next week, it's hard not to look over CUC toward Lakeland. CUW will have a much better showing next week!!

well, if i am not mistaken (and if i am, then tell me)...CUW's best part of their D is their D line. Their D line did nothing compared to what they did in other games. Seriously, don't make excuses for why the score was so close. That is the one thing that is pathetic about half of these posters is that they could never admit to something. CUC came out and gave CUW a run for their money, and that is the bottom line. Mr. Langston did nothing as i viewed...owned by a freshmen tackle. Their rank in the top 25 should be brought down to nothing. They are a good team, don't get me wrong. But CUC gave them their second closest game since North Central. Watch out for CUC in the next couple weeks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 15, 2006, 02:32:04 AM
Simple logic CUC loses to BU....BU loses to AU.....Odds are CUC loses to AU
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 15, 2006, 08:07:24 AM
 Like a lot of you guys have noted.....good games yesterday!
   In fact the "average" score was 22-17 and not one blow out.
   LC takes Mac 24-16, what happened to the Maddogs Team? They won
    but in the last couple of games they look.......average.
   CU-W beats CU-C 31-20 and i`ll bet they slid back in the D-3 top 25.
   Did they have an off day or is CU-C really coming on?
   Greenville 26, Eureka 20.  To me it`s a victory for Eureka as they have
    lost all of their games but played GC tough. Some time a moral victory is
    a good thing.
   Au over BU 15-7. Lots of guys liked BU in this one but AU won out in what
   looked to be a good game, score wise anyway.
   Next week is the game!  CU-W vs Lakeland.  Who do you like?
   You know the local "Homer", who has been missing of late, will chime in
     with his take on why LC, with all those NFL types, will get the "W". 
   


   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 15, 2006, 03:06:17 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on October 15, 2006, 02:32:04 AM
Simple logic CUC loses to BU....BU loses to AU.....Odds are CUC loses to AU

Simple logic...CUW defeats AU 42-13, CUW defeats CUC 31-20 and the score could of easily been 24-20....Don't count CUC out, Benedictine was at the beginning of the season, CUC still had a lot of learning to do and STILL does, but look at how much improvement there is already, this team has come together. AU better watch out, the Cougars are hungry!.

On the other hand, congrats to Eureka, 26-20, you guys should be proud since Greenville is known as a good team this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ftbll4life on October 15, 2006, 04:22:45 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on October 15, 2006, 02:32:04 AM
Simple logic CUC loses to BU....BU loses to AU.....Odds are CUC loses to AU

this could be the dumbest thing i have seen in a while. There is a resaon you play the games cuz any thing can happen on anyday..If this was so true. You could play one week have have your NC.

CUC is a very young team, and is getting better in a hurry. they have been in every game but two all year. The "O" is being to show waht they can do. The "D" is not very far behind.

They shot them selves in the foot many times in the game yest. It seemed like everytime they were driving the would get a flag. I think they had 4 or 5 holding call on "O"..Which is the most I have ever seen in a college game.

Now I give CUW their due, every time they need to do something big they did. Which is a what a older team does. CUC has over 20 FR. and SO. that r either starting or getting a lot of playing time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 15, 2006, 07:45:28 PM
Fatal, even though your logic is completely moronic, here is some.

CUW defeats AU 42-13, CUW defeats CUC 31-20 therefore CUC beats AU by 18.....simple logic right Fatal??

Stupid.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 15, 2006, 09:21:51 PM
You're missing the point.....and let's keep the personal attacks to a minimum uh!, Anyway....My point is that a team that AU beat should beat a team that the team they just beat, should be able to beat a team they did......Plus the way I hear it CUW is slackin'....So CUC was able to get a few extra points.....Oh well.....I guess when you face CURF you could afford to and still win.....I realize that on ANy Given Day ANy given person can get beat....But trust me CUC WILL NEVER BEAT AU........NEVER
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ftbll4life on October 15, 2006, 11:52:25 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on October 15, 2006, 09:21:51 PM
You're missing the point.....and let's keep the personal attacks to a minimum uh!, Anyway....My point is that a team that AU beat should beat a team that the team they just beat, should be able to beat a team they did......Plus the way I hear it CUW is slackin'....So CUC was able to get a few extra points.....Oh well.....I guess when you face CURF you could afford to and still win.....I realize that on ANy Given Day ANy given person can get beat....But trust me CUC WILL NEVER BEAT AU........NEVER

How was CUW Slackin'? All 22 of thier starters, started. Also with under 5 mins left. CUW was still trying to score instead of worrying about the clock, and trying to run it out. Why can't people see that CUC is start to become a good team. Lost a game in a complete down pour to BU, in which they only played a half of football, but a lost is a lost. Beat EU. Lost to Mac, with some questionable calls, lost to CUW by 11 but was with in 3 in late in the 4th......These young kids are starting to come around...

And if you know that any team can beat any other team any given day. Don't say it is simple logic. By the way never say never. Cause any thing can happen!!!! If CUC doesn't BEAT AU this will, which the should and hopefully will. They will do it next year.

CUC is just a step away. Think about this the coaching staff had just about 5 months to recurit. Let's see what they do with a whole year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 16, 2006, 12:26:37 AM
And why the heck would CUW want to slack?  They are in the top 25 in the APCA poll and "on the bubble" in the d3football.com poll, they know a close game or loss to CUC would have put them in jeopardy of not even cracking the top 25, so why would they want to slack off?

I guarantee they were ready and fired up for that game, a chance to whoop up on a team, put up 70 pts and prove they should be in the top 25.

Didn't happen though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 16, 2006, 01:47:36 AM
Quote from: Falcon77 on October 14, 2006, 11:36:26 PM
I saw the game, and CUW win was never in jeopardy. They did not play their best game, but they played good enungh to win. I saw that some of their normal defensive starters did not play. When you have the biggest conference game coming up next week, it's hard not to look over CUC toward Lakeland. CUW will have a much better showing next week!!
Quote from: FatalImpact on October 15, 2006, 02:32:04 AM
Simple logic CUC loses to BU....BU loses to AU.....Odds are CUC loses to AU

I love how all the falcons lovers are making up excuses for skating bye CUC. if it is true about cuw not playing the starters then they are not a good team at all, you play you starters every week to give yourself the best chance to win. EVERY TEAM LIKES TO POUND THE CRAP OUT OF TEAMS BY 50 OF 60 POINTS IF THEY HAVE THE CHANCE! CUC is the real deal and will stun AU for its home comming, CuC is becoming hard to play at home, both wins this year are at home. THE bad new is that if au is worth anything, they are not going to come in to 7400 west agusta not ready to play, CUC can beat them and the Coach of the year will have 3 wins under his belt! No more cry baby excuses from the "IBC's best chance to win a playoff game" They are not good because of the fact they were not ready,

You don't choose to just beat someone!!!! and that is what CUW did!!!


CUW would have love to show how good they were to outside conf. teams by killing CUC!!!!
Not this time!!!!!!!!!!

never in the game was CUC out of it. half time it was 17-7 and after half time cuc played very well, unlike in the past.  CUC had long dives of 70 yards in the second half and it is believed by many that if CUC would have gotten the onside kick late in the 4th quarter they would have won the game!!

good luck next week to AU, you are going to need it against a hungry CUC team!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 16, 2006, 01:53:36 AM
regardless of the rest of the season you have to all admit that CUC has turned itself around!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 16, 2006, 01:57:18 AM
                                                   CUCFB     CUWFB06
FIRST DOWNS...................               19       24
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............       37-138   52-289
PASSING YDS (NET).............           117      137
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........       37-13-2   15-9-0
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.....74-255   67-426
Fumble Returns-Yards..........          0-0      0-0
Punt Returns-Yards............             1-0     2-18
Kickoff Returns-Yards.........           6-87     4-52
Interception Returns-Yards....        0-0      2-0
Punts (Number-Avg)............         4-36.8   3-37.0
Fumbles-Lost..................                0-0      2-2
Penalties-Yards...............               7-52     6-91
Possession Time...............            29:11    30:49
Third-Down Conversions........       5 of 18  3 of 11
Fourth-Down Conversions.......       2 of 4   1 of 2
Red-Zone Scores-Chances.......      3-3      4-6
Sacks By: Number-Yards........        5-38     2-20\


find me something that CUW did to CUC that is worthy of a playoff win later in the season!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_7_seven on October 16, 2006, 08:54:34 AM
Quote from: 7400West on October 16, 2006, 01:53:36 AM
regardless of the rest of the season you have to all admit that CUC has turned itself around!

A half of a season does not count as turing a program around.  I only know how we played @ Mac but they went 6-4 the year before I got there and all they could talk about is how we have turned the corner.  We went 3-7 the next year.  They may have taken a step in the right direction but ease up with all the love.  It will take 2-3 solid classes before they can say they have turned this program around.  My guess is that CUW did not take CUC very serious and then found themselves in a tight game.  You play that game 10 times and I would bet 8 of them are 20+ pt wins for CUW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: wlcalum on October 16, 2006, 08:59:44 AM
Being an outsider... and looking at the stats posted above, besides for the rushing yardage, looks to me like it was a great game!! Now you can tell me to shut up and go back to the MIAA board.  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on October 16, 2006, 09:02:27 AM
To clear up the issue of them (CUW) not playing thier starters...

Their defensive starters were in the game at the begining of the game.  They played a soft cover 3 to our trips and could not stop our passing game.  After that, they played nickel and dime defenses the rest of the game, using 6 defensive backs and playing a cover 2 man instead of thier normal 3 linebackers and playing thier normal 4-3 cover 2.  

I just wanted to clear that up about them not playing thier starters, because they were having trouble with our passing game, so they had to put in 6 DB's.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 16, 2006, 09:14:30 AM
I don't know where even to begin.   Exciting weekend if your at the bottom of the conference and playing for respect (CUC) or even your first win(EU). Major congrats to CUC for playing an awesome game and walking in their and showing that football is football and it's how its played just because you may be ranked some place in some poll doesn't mean you can't get beat in IBC play.  That's such bull about starters not playing and crap don't even believe that for one second CUC. Lakeland had the same excuses when GC played them last year really close.  See stuff like this is why CUW will get crushed in the playoffs. Instead of just taking it and saying CUC played really well they caught us off guard and played football, CUW made crap up about starters not starting or not playing and they never were worried about anything which would be a bold face lie. There's a line between confident and cocky and CUW is appears to be walkin it.  
-Also EU well played game, you guys played aggressive.  Hopefully GC learns from that and brings the new knowledge in for Homecoming game vs MacMurray this week.    
-I thought BU would win this one but they didn't. Congrats to AU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: langston92 on October 16, 2006, 09:49:38 AM
I knew there were some gay people in this conference!  Cuc did improve but we got the W and thats what count.  I don't care really that much about stats.  As long as I am concerened the score on sat. was 31-20.  We won and you lost.  We are 7-0.  Yeah cuc came out with some gay formations and we took them for granted, but we got on ouor horse and we put it to them.  By the way you can say what you want on this gay board but see me on the field, then we will see whats up.  AND HAVE A NICE DAY;  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 16, 2006, 09:57:49 AM
I think I did see you on the field and if you are who I think you are then yep......I laid your ass out twice! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 16, 2006, 10:20:41 AM
Wow, abundant use the of the word "gay" Mr. Langston.

The fact of the matter is you got killed up front and then cried to the refs if you couldn't do anything, "Come on, he's holding me ref" was one of your most popular complaints on Saturday, or so I hear.......

Seeing how you post on the board I am surprised you didn't say, "ref, this is gay" or "ref, quit being gay and call something" or maybe "HEY REF........this is gay".

Alright, I for one think players shouldn't post on the board, and looking at your name, we all know who you are and who you play for.  You could of at least been secretive about your name.  Gay formations or not they gave you a run for your money and you just barely pulled it out.

You know if someone had no idea what the IBC was and looked at the scores and stats from Saturday, I am betting they would think that any team had a legitimate shot at the IBC title from how close all the games were. 

I still think CUW wins out and makes the playoffs, just don't know about winning their first playoff game anymore.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on October 16, 2006, 10:27:39 AM
Gay Formations...?  ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 16, 2006, 10:41:31 AM
I said CIW was slackin'.....I didn't mean they didnt play their starters..SO I know it wasnt me who said that,... When I said slackin' I meant the were probably looking past CUC.....Cause that's what this conference does.....and Langston92 is right CUW got the W.....All those stats dont mean crap the next week,....New game New team.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 16, 2006, 11:11:10 AM
who cares, one more year and this conference is done.   Then teams can really prove things without the black cloud of playing in the IBC. Here's a question......If CUW was already in the new conference does anyone think they would have broke into the D3football Poll Top 25 already? or maybe sooner than they did with the ACPA poll?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2006, 11:32:42 AM
Way to impress the All-American voters, Bobby.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 16, 2006, 12:24:44 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 16, 2006, 11:11:10 AM
who cares, one more year and this conference is done.   Then teams can really prove things without the black cloud of playing in the IBC. Here's a question......If CUW was already in the new conference does anyone think they would have broke into the D3football Poll Top 25 already? or maybe sooner than they did with the ACPA poll?

NO

I think the new conference starts next year.....Not sure though
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 16, 2006, 01:10:48 PM
CUC played an awesome game!!!

It is true that a couple starters were out, but you know what, that does not take one hting away from CUC. 

I think this was the best thing that could have heppened for both teams CUC knows how much better they are getting and can tell by playing tough competition,  CUW knows they aren't invincable anymore WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!

I think there are a number of top 25 teams that CUW can beat in the playoffs, they just have to hope they get matched up against one of them for once.  There is some great talent on CUW and they can get it done just be smart, you know who I'm talking to.

Awesome job CUC keep up the improvment. 

CUW take it to Lakeland!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 16, 2006, 01:12:49 PM
RIP CORCODILE HUNTER
[/glow]

that was a terrible comment
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 16, 2006, 01:21:31 PM
Quote from: langston92 on October 16, 2006, 09:49:38 AM
I knew there were some gay people in this conference!  Cuc did improve but we got the W and thats what count.  I don't care really that much about stats.  As long as I am concerened the score on sat. was 31-20.  We won and you lost.  We are 7-0.  Yeah cuc came out with some gay formations and we took them for granted, but we got on ouor horse and we put it to them.  By the way you can say what you want on this gay board but see me on the field, then we will see whats up.  AND HAVE A NICE DAY;  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2006, 01:49:13 PM
The NAthCon isn't going to have any better standing than the IBC in terms of respect.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 16, 2006, 01:51:18 PM
Bobby~
WHAT!!???  Please, pleasssssssse tell me this isn't a real post.  You got to be kidding me, Bobby?  What are you thinking?  CUC hung 20 on your team.  I get the whole idea;  a win is a win is a win but they hung 20 on your D.  Ya all need to stop reading your own press clippings and start playing ball.  You have a heck of team but 20 points to cuc.... that's gay.

Thanks BU for coughing the ball up five times and giving my Spartans a much needed W.

Lets make a list of things that are gay, I'll start;
EC press box
kickers
Jamie Lee's mustache
soccer
women's softball
CUC's formations (thanks Bob)
Pink shirts
bench pressing more then you can squat
PETA

please add

The Truth


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 16, 2006, 02:26:47 PM
Other things that are gay:

Whatever two quarters at EC are spent playing uphill
The death of the Crocodile Hunter
Popped collars
Aging hippie liberal douches
hippies

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 16, 2006, 02:34:39 PM
CUW 7-0....CUC lost and I have never seen that much patting your back for a loss....CUC needs to also not think about the next game and not the fact that they kept one close....CUW is looking at lakeland now and going to the playoffs...CUC is looking at an almost win
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adders75 on October 16, 2006, 02:41:08 PM
Hi all I am new to the board but been reading for a while and I have to say that there are a lot of CUC people out there that are getting pretty excited about the loss that they took on Sat.  At the risk of yet another excuse for a poor performance from CUW it was quite evident by looking at their sidelines that no ones heart was really in the game.  CUC and EU are just another one of those games that you just have to get through so that you can get to the GC and LU.  So yes the falcons seemed to be looking forward to Lakeland instead of takeing the season one game at a time, but it is what it is.  CUW played like crap and CUC showed up to play, hence the close score.  If you look what happened in the game CUW left at least 21 if not more points on the field due to poor passes and a penalty and they gave CUC a TD with a stupid roughing the QB penalty on a 4th and 20 something on their 30 yd line.  So if CUW had played a smart game then it would have been a blow out like some predicted and quite honestly most expected, but they didn't so on to next week when the falcons will put it to the muskies.  (which I would like to add to the list of gay things -- having a fish for a mascot--) Also I would like to comment that it is pretty sad that the highlight of CUC's season is getting close to CUW maybe you guys are turning your program around.  Good luck to all in practice this weekend and in the games on Saturday.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on October 16, 2006, 02:56:36 PM
Quote from: Twisted2 on October 16, 2006, 01:51:18 PM
Bobby~
WHAT!!???  Please, pleasssssssse tell me this isn't a real post.  You got to be kidding me, Bobby?  What are you thinking?  CUC hung 20 on your team.  I get the whole idea;  a win is a win is a win but they hung 20 on your D.  Ya all need to stop reading your own press clippings and start playing ball.  You have a heck of team but 20 points to cuc.... that's gay.

Thanks BU for coughing the ball up five times and giving my Spartans a much needed W.

Lets make a list of things that are gay, I'll start;
EC press box
kickers
Jamie Lee's mustache
soccer
women's softball
CUC's formations (thanks Bob)
Pink shirts
bench pressing more then you can squat
PETA

please add

The Truth




What is wrong with Jamies mustache?? LOL
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 16, 2006, 03:23:46 PM
welcome to the board adders75.   The bottom of the conference played some good football Saturday.   EC was a little too close for comfort against my GC alum. MAC appears by the score to play well against LC and CUC played strong.   Will this have an impact at all for this weekend? CUC is riding high, but can they beat AU? CUC 2-5, AU 2-4 ?? that doesn't seem right? And of course CUW vs LC, I don't really see it being that close.....

Here's my pics for this Saturday Oct. 21st.

BU vs Eureka      BU wins  33-14
CUC vs AU          CUC wins 22-18
MAC vs GC          GC wins  35-13

******GAME OF THE WEEK*****  
LC vs CUW          CUW wins  38-27

Good luck to the IBC teams this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 16, 2006, 04:04:31 PM
MACs football field = gay

I can't believe no one put that.

Although when you ad everything together (stands, location, etc...) I think EC has the gayest field.

Sloping field
bleachers/stands about ready to fall over
wooden tables about ready to collapse on the sidelines for injuries
apperently the press box is nothing short of crappy
trailor park at one end

I think they take the cake on gay fields.  MACs is only 1/2 gay now.


Oh yeah, and aging hippie liberal douches...got to agree with Falcsfb, they are up there on the gay meter.
PICKS:

CUW vs. LC - CUW gets a wake up call and wins by a good margin, 37-10
BU vs. EC - EC may have some fire after the showing against GC, BU only wins 21-14
GC vs. MAC - agreement with Trucountry, GC takes it 35-13
CUC vs. AU - CUC coming off a great game, know that AU is beatable, they squeak this one out 27-24

Bobby look what you started with your gay comments.........I am sure this makes everyone laugh though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 16, 2006, 06:32:53 PM
More things that are gay;

Tom Cruise
AU's practice area
Tall skinny people
John Madden and Pat Summeral
Late TD's in blowouts
Moral victories (CUC)
Frank Carter's face paint
People in this confrence (again thanks Bobby)
Chicks with adams apples'
People who live in Boys Town
Lance Bass
Prison sex

Let's go people.... I need more things that are gay, again thanks Mr. Langston for the start, this is a good time!

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 16, 2006, 06:39:15 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 16, 2006, 03:23:46 PM
welcome to the board adders75.   The bottom of the conference played some good football Saturday.   EC was a little too close for comfort against my GC alum. MAC appears by the score to play well against LC and CUC played strong.   Will this have an impact at all for this weekend? CUC is riding high, but can they beat AU? CUC 2-5, AU 2-4 ?? that doesn't seem right? And of course CUW vs LC, I don't really see it being that close.....

Here's my pics for this Saturday Oct. 21st.

BU vs Eureka      BU wins  33-14
CUC vs AU          CUC wins 22-18
MAC vs GC          GC wins  35-13

******GAME OF THE WEEK***** 
LC vs CUW          CUW wins  38-27

Good luck to the IBC teams this week.


A lovely guess......I was right last week and I'll be right again this week.....AU beats CUC.......CUC has about a snowball's chance in hell of winning this game....Ridding high...Please they lost and they'll lose next saturday
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 16, 2006, 07:00:35 PM
Twisted, moral victories are fun, come on now.

And, chicks don't have adams apples, maybe a dude dressed up as a chick, so therefore

Gay things:

Transvestites with adams apples........how about that.
Fatal (only if CUC beats AU)
Baseman201 (if AU beats CUC)

haha, CUC don't let me down.

And who the hell is Lance Bass?

yeah seriously Bobby, this has really taken off.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 16, 2006, 07:21:30 PM
Nope.....Seriously though I was right before and I will be right again
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on October 16, 2006, 08:09:18 PM
First of all...no one in Cougar Camp is happy about losing.  Are we proud of the way we played? Yeah, but now our concentration is soley on AU.  Are we happy we lost?  Heck NO.  No one here is taking Saturday as a moral victory or anything as such.


Now on to Bobby's favorite topic.......

GAY THINGS!!!!

The Nutbush
The Village People
Listening to "Endless Love" in the dark
Emilio Estevez haters
Jumping rope while naked
CROCS (those new sandal things)

Last but definately not least....
Brokeback Mountain!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fball fan on October 16, 2006, 08:25:16 PM
Actually Eureka has a new press box, home stands, 25 sec. clocks,  tables, and benches this season (but yeah it's about time). As for the sloping field, and our neighbors to the south, well thats just Eureka baby!!! ;D. 
p.s. look for the devils to continue inproving the rest of the season. 18 starters are freshman and sophmores starting to play at the college level. Not saying they will win all for games left, but they will compete!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adders75 on October 16, 2006, 09:41:50 PM
I gotta say after having seen both teams play I think that CUC could pull one out on AU, but it will be close.  Lets say 28-24 CUC Good luck cougars.  I hope that Coach Janousky is turning you guys good group.  Perhaps I will come back with scores for the rest of the conference later this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 16, 2006, 09:47:49 PM
Twisted -
            you got me to make a list.      
Things that are gay........
lower rider trucks
lower rider cars
foreign cars that sound like a pissed off weed-eater
city people that have no concept of hard work
Ford & Dodge Trucks (unless Diesel)
Polaris 4-wheelers
PETA
Anti-Cattle Groups
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adders75 on October 16, 2006, 11:48:13 PM
one thing I think is gay 


saying weed eater instead of weed wacker
saying bubbler instead of water fountain
saying soda instead of pop
and using long vowels for everything aka a wisconsin accent

GO MICHIGAN!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adders75 on October 16, 2006, 11:49:50 PM
sorry multiple things I think are gay

P.S. how do I already have a -1 karma I haven't even been on here for 24 hours
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 16, 2006, 11:59:37 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 16, 2006, 07:00:35 PM
Twisted, moral victories are fun, come on now.

And, chicks don't have adams apples, maybe a dude dressed up as a chick, so therefore

Gay things:

Transvestites with adams apples........how about that.
Fatal (only if CUC beats AU)
Baseman201 (if AU beats CUC)

haha, CUC don't let me down.

And who the hell is Lance Bass?

yeah seriously Bobby, this has really taken off.


Who the hell is Lance Bass?!!??  Your kidding me, right?  Dude, if you really don't know you better ask somebody or google him or something.  Are you sure your informaion on tranvestites is acquarate?  I don't understand, chicks don't have adams apples?  R u sure?  Even really tall chicks with deep voices and huge hands?  Chicks don't have adams apples?!!?  As Jonny Carson would say "I did not know that."  errrrrrrrrr yeah I did.  

As for Mr. Langston~
I read the quote every hour on the hour.  I love it.  It is soooo good.  I need more nuggets, please continue to post.  I read the quote to my 7th graders and they were all over it.  They got on board in a hurry.  They love the use of the word gay.  They were able to come up with several new things that are gay.  Again they are 7th grade boys and this is pretty much how they talk all the time; "This is gay.  He's gay.  Can you believe how gay this is?  Dude, that's gay."  

Keep posting what is gay.  I will unveil the list that the 7th graders came up with Thursday  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 17, 2006, 12:12:10 AM
Da Bears vs the Cardinals was freakin awesome.  Offense for Da Bears scored 0 points, but still win 24-23. Urlacher is the best. Ray Lewis learns from Urlacher.   

....The Arizona Cardinals are gay....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 17, 2006, 12:13:14 AM
HAHA

Who would have thought that the one thing I am looking forward to this week is a "gay" list by a bunch of 7th graders.  I CAN'T WAIT!!!!

Yeah, lowriding anything is pretty gay, that's probably one thing I hate MOST in this world.

Langston you are a genious, calling everything gay..........why didn't I think of that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 17, 2006, 12:44:19 AM
haha awesome gay lists...i actually feel like we are all 7th graders. Thanks Langston!!! Anyways, one thing always catches my attention on here and it is how much people have excuses, even AFTER they win. Mequon fans or just to say a couple because some of them are actually cool, who cares what you really have to say. The problem here is you are ranked 25th in the nation and any team who doesnt take that seriously, well, they just dont deserve it. BLAH BLAH BLAH, Mequon could of scored 21 more points if this and that didn't happen...well here is a little something you missed, CUC could of scored 21 other points also!!! They are young and shot themselves in the foot with petty penalties like false starts and holding. A lot of yards in penalties kills a team and thats what it did for CUC. take the win Mequon, congrats...you are 7-0 and will hopefully make a stand for IBC in the playoffs, but quit making stupid excuses. I highly doubt CUC players are content with coming close to CUW...that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I think they will rebound and come out strong against AU. My question to you FATAL is what makes you think AU is so strong? Because you honestly make them out to be some football GODS. Just give us a little something more than "simple logic" bud.
Hey TRU, were you at the GC and Eureka game last Sat? I just want to know what happened there. Don't take offense, just curious!

list of things that are gay:
adders75 first post on D3
Fatal's "simple logic"
speedos
the hair of the high school kids on two-a-days (wtf is with that?)
guys who watch Laguna Beach
Laguna Beach...regardless
The Bears offense
Bears fans who still think they will go undefeated
club music
guys who love clubs
i could go on but i don't want to hog all the gay things...more to come!

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 17, 2006, 02:06:39 AM
I love all the talk about cuc and how close they came to beating the "#1" team in conf? I dont know if i feel that way, It just shows how even the best team in the IBC cant be all that great! CUC played like a cuc team has never played like before, end of story. I think cuc wins Homecoming and continues to be unbeaten at home!!!

Langston's posts were pretty gay considering he was playing with the cuc oline all game. I think he likes "holding" calls or "illigal use of the hands" if you know what i mean!!
relax stud and get ready for lakeland, they smell blood!!!



i love cuc but the dry campus is gay!!!No true tailgating=GAY

the mile walk from mac's locker room to field=GAY

current players posting on this site=GAY

male peircings of any kind=gay

the packers=GAY

bears=awsome, greatest team in football history(not this years bears but all the years, winingest team in football history!!)

not wearing butt pads in games!= Gay

stingrays=gay

players with big egos = gay

My high school beating Mount Carmel and winning the best HS conf. in Illinois=Awsome!

The new friday night lights show=gay except the hot slutty girl on the show!

I could go on forever and that would =gay!!!!


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 17, 2006, 02:08:01 AM
posting many posts in a row =gay and i do it sometimes as well, I have to laugh at that myself!

but i would like to say one more thing, I love all the band wagon CUC over AU fans, it is nice to see you start coming around!!!! just have to wait a few more days!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 17, 2006, 07:42:36 AM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on October 17, 2006, 12:44:19 AM
haha awesome gay lists...i actually feel like we are all 7th graders. Thanks Langston!!! Anyways, one thing always catches my attention on here and it is how much people have excuses, even AFTER they win. Mequon fans or just to say a couple because some of them are actually cool, who cares what you really have to say. The problem here is you are ranked 25th in the nation and any team who doesnt take that seriously, well, they just dont deserve it. BLAH BLAH BLAH, Mequon could of scored 21 more points if this and that didn't happen...well here is a little something you missed, CUC could of scored 21 other points also!!! They are young and shot themselves in the foot with petty penalties like false starts and holding. A lot of yards in penalties kills a team and thats what it did for CUC. take the win Mequon, congrats...you are 7-0 and will hopefully make a stand for IBC in the playoffs, but quit making stupid excuses. I highly doubt CUC players are content with coming close to CUW...that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I think they will rebound and come out strong against AU. My question to you FATAL is what makes you think AU is so strong? Because you honestly make them out to be some football GODS. Just give us a little something more than "simple logic" bud.
Hey TRU, were you at the GC and Eureka game last Sat? I just want to know what happened there. Don't take offense, just curious!

list of things that are gay:
adders75 first post on D3
Fatal's "simple logic"
speedos
the hair of the high school kids on two-a-days (wtf is with that?)
guys who watch Laguna Beach
Laguna Beach...regardless
The Bears offense
Bears fans who still think they will go undefeated
club music
guys who love clubs
i could go on but i don't want to hog all the gay things...more to come!



Please quote my post where I called AU football Gods.....Oh wait I didnt........How do I portray that anyway, because I said the would beat BU and they did, or because I said they will beat CUC and they will.......WHen i any post have I said otherwise......Stop posting that crap....Y'all are make this board look ridiculous...Lets get back to talkin' football, and not posting lists
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 17, 2006, 09:31:36 AM
Fatal,
  Some stats to look at for this upcoming CUC vs AU game.
CUC
Avg. 18 points a game        Avg. 28.5 points a game in IBC play
Avg. 33 points against them     Avg. 30 points against them in IBC play

AURORA
Avg. 11 points a game        Avg 15.5 points a game in IBC play
Avg. 22 points against them     Avg. 19 points against them in IBC play

The 3 teams CUC and AU have already played MAC, BU, and CUW.

CUC  Avg. 24 points those 3 games, but also got beat an Avg. 37 points
AU    Avg.  18 points those 3 games, but gave up an Avg. 20pts

AU has beat both MAC & BU
CUC has lost both too MAC & BU 
 
Summary if CUC keeps rolling on offense thats great but their defense has to stop AU. CUC must get AU to 4th down and hold them- total game plan.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 17, 2006, 09:35:34 AM
I will tell you whats "Gay," is this post room. If you look at other rooms, you wont see this!! I agree players dont need to post on this post but i think everyone is blowing this out way to much!!! The biggest game is in the conference this week!!! Also i am sick of seeing CUC players and fans post about how close they came to winning or how they deserved it. I never heard so many people post good things and talk trash about a loosing effort!! That really doesnt happen in football, well not that i have seen or heard anywhere. an L is an L there is no way around it. As for the season, its over the half way point.....Who do you think are the head hunters for post season awards????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on October 17, 2006, 09:39:31 AM
Twisted,
Look what you have started.  I know Mr. Langston said it first, but you jumped all over it.  This is the only conference page where you will find absolutely ridiculous posts.  The season is winding down and all you yahoo's can talk about is things that are "gay."  And I'll be damned if that isn't "gay."  (had to throw one in there).

Went to the AU-BU game.  Both teams are BAD, young but BAD!!!!!  I have been away from the IBC for a few years and I am amazed at the decline in talent.  AU got a safety in the second quarter and I was convinced that the game would end 2-0.  AU is very lucky that BU backs don't like to hang on to the ball.  BU needs to install some 5 step drop passing plays into there O.  Play-action doesn't trick anyone on 3 and 25.  And all that pointless shifting, needs to be scrapped.  AU and there pistol O, key the tailback because the fullback doesn't get the ball.  On the plus side AU's young QB has some talent.  He just needs his WR and backs to catch the ball when it hits them in the hands
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 17, 2006, 10:01:22 AM
Da One~

You love it!!  You want me posting things that are gay, you need me posting things that are gay.  Also thanks for adding to the list... that's all I ask.  If you come to this post area you need to add one thing that is gay.  Other then that its a free for all.

Maddog~
What do you think is gay?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 17, 2006, 11:54:10 AM
Offensive Player of the Year   - Aaron Gillespie (CUW)
Defensived Player of the Year - J.R. Harriel  (Greenville)
 
***CUW pretty much takes all the awards.

MVP: Aaron Gillespie (CUW)

Since Maddog ain't having  the All-Maddog Team, I should have the
All-TruCountry Team
Send in your favorites picks for MVP, Best QB, Best WR, Best RB, Best OL, Best DL, Top DB's,  Send them to me and the results of the starting lineup for All-TruCountry Team will be posted Nov 6th. 

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2006, 12:04:17 PM
Quote from: Twisted2 on October 17, 2006, 10:01:22 AM
Da One~

You love it!!  You want me posting things that are gay, you need me posting things that are gay.  Also thanks for adding to the list... that's all I ask.  If you come to this post area you need to add one thing that is gay.

Uhh, no. I'll make the rules, thanks.

I'm waiting for you children to realize how stupid you sound.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 17, 2006, 12:56:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2006, 12:04:17 PM
Quote from: Twisted2 on October 17, 2006, 10:01:22 AM
Da One~

You love it!!  You want me posting things that are gay, you need me posting things that are gay.  Also thanks for adding to the list... that's all I ask.  If you come to this post area you need to add one thing that is gay.

Uhh, no. I'll make the rules, thanks.

I'm waiting for you children to realize how stupid you sound.

Come on Pat... do you really think I share this garbage with my students?  Get real.  Also, it would be waiting for your not you.

gay list continued

Pat Colman, picking MU to win it all, on ESPN news, yet again.
People sitting at computers all day looking at post about d3 football
Pat Colman wishing he was John Clayton
This board (again thanks Mr. Langston for that nugget)

Please do not take away my right to post.  I have no other e-mails that I could make up.  Please do not take away my karma.  I've worked long and hard to get those points.  Keep posting people... KEEP POSTING!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2006, 01:13:11 PM
I couldn't care less about being John Clayton.

You have students? Then why are you acting like one? Da One is right -- you guys make your conference look bad.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 17, 2006, 01:13:44 PM
Twisted....Stop...It was funny the first two or three posts, now its just stupid, no one thinks you are funny except for you....Listen to Pat, this little "list" thing has run it's course and it is time to give it up

I really dont care what facts are being thrown at me, I said That CUC will lose, and they will, its only a matter of time, dont get me wrong they are on the right track, just not this time, and probably not next season......AU wins
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 17, 2006, 01:24:42 PM
allow me to wrap this up


this gay talk=   GAY!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 17, 2006, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: 7400West on October 17, 2006, 01:24:42 PM
allow me to wrap this up


this gay talk=   GAY!!!!!!!!

I agree.7400, well put

Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 17, 2006, 11:54:10 AM
Offensive Player of the Year   - Aaron Gillespie (CUW)
Defensived Player of the Year - J.R. Harriel  (Greenville)
 
***CUW pretty much takes all the awards.

MVP: Aaron Gillespie (CUW)

Since Maddog ain't having  the All-Maddog Team, I should have the
All-TruCountry Team
Send in your favorites picks for MVP, Best QB, Best WR, Best RB, Best OL, Best DL, Top DB's,  Send them to me and the results of the starting lineup for All-TruCountry Team will be posted Nov 6th. 



I would but, much like maddogg I can see it'll prolly end up being an all Greenville team, with very little else
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dc_has_been on October 17, 2006, 01:40:38 PM
What's you thoughts on Concordia (Wis) finishing out 10-0?  Were they picked to win conf. this preseason or was someone else? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 17, 2006, 01:51:06 PM
Sorry... I got a little excited. 

CUW will run the table.  They are way to good to have another let down like they had last week.  They were looking a head last week.  They are much more talented and they have a very solid coaching staff.  Look for them to win out.  I believe they will face a much higher seed in the playoffs so a W may not be in the IBFC's playoff future. 

I never thought I would have to say this but good luck to the Spartans against CUC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 17, 2006, 01:51:25 PM
Fatal -
         What the hell are you talkin about? I would not pick GC for everything.  I was wondering if you would pick the poor play AU team for everything.  That's bull ****.  GC is good I can't help it, CUW is better, AU isn't what they used to be. CUC is improving but aren't makin a conference title run for a couple more years. BU is improving and LC seems to just stay the same. Eureka and MAC will one day be the same. (Either EC moving up or MAC moving down)   You keep wanting facts or stats to go with your simple logic and I gave you some stats that are really comparable to AU and CUC.  I was just showing you that this Saturday isn't going to be AU walking in and walking out. CUC offense in my opinion is better than AU.
Fatal.....quit .....being a little......punk!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on October 17, 2006, 01:54:02 PM
Actually Fatal, Twisted is usually pretty funny.  This time he has pushed it a little to far (common mistake for twisted).

Twisted, why try to dis Pat?  What he does for D3 is awsome. 

Just once I would like to see some insightful post's and a little realism from the fans.

Here is some realism:
CUW is the only quality team in the league and they won't win a playoff game.  CUC is a long, long, long way from being any good.  AU has fallen off the face of the earth. Mac has no discilpine.  BU will be ok in 2 years (and a new offensive scheme).  Eureka should drop football.  Ryan Mauri was the Lakeland team.  I have nothing to say about Greenville other than, everything south of I-80 sucks.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 17, 2006, 02:10:07 PM
Da One what the hell is your problem? Do you want to explain why GC sucks. because your post of everything south I-80 sucks doesn't seem to make sense. Because the 2 Wisc teams are 4-0 in the conference while the chicago teams are playing like **** and GC is 3-1 in the conf. So it seems everything north of I-70 sucks. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 17, 2006, 03:31:23 PM
Wow!  Seems like this board has really focused on topics totally unrelated to football.  What happened?  ???
The real talk should be the battle between Concordia WI vs. Lakeland, winner take all as I don't think the IBC will get 2 teams in.  Hard to pick a favorite in this one.  CUW did knock off North Central which was a good win, however Lakeland is the defending champ.  I think Concordia's defense is a little stronger which is why I give the edge to them.  Either way I think this is a 7-10 point affair.
All this gay talk would make Elton John proud but really, what does it have to do with football?  ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 17, 2006, 03:47:04 PM
Trust me I aint no little punk......You already semi proved my point by saying JR harrel or whatever his name is is the defensive player of the year.......AU wasnt what they were supposed to be this year because of many tribulations where as GC has one descent season last year and having an alright season so far....And all of a sudden they're the best, and with the exception of CUW you are talking how good they are when they could be better but aren't........But Its a Gimmie you go to GC and I wouldnt expect you to be backing anyone else....They just arent as good as CUW
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 17, 2006, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on October 17, 2006, 03:47:04 PM
Trust me I aint no little punk......You already semi proved my point by saying JR harrel or whatever his name is is the defensive player of the year.......AU wasnt what they were supposed to be this year because of many tribulations where as GC has one descent season last year and having an alright season so far....And all of a sudden they're the best, and with the exception of CUW you are talking how good they are when they could be better but aren't........But Its a Gimmie you go to GC and I wouldnt expect you to be backing anyone else....They just arent as good as CUW

I already said GC was good but just not as good as CUW.  J.R Harriel could be defensive player of the year, he should be.  Most forced fumbles, most takles for lost,  2nd in tackles with 10 a game, 2nd in solo tackles with 6 a game.  Greenville has the 2nd best defense in the IBC.

GC other than CUW is the only team in this conference that averages more points for than against.  It will be better when we all get out of this conference. Well for most.  Because if your AU and becoming weak and heading to a new Conf. it doesn't look good.  

So here Fatal spread some of your simple logic with us. First why couldn't CUC and AU be a close game seen how CUC averages more than 2 TD's a game in IBC play?  Second why with the stats I just gave you about J.R. Harriel he couldn't be the Defensive Player of the Year?  

Fatal, seriously all you do is get on here and talk crap. You say things with no facts or stats to back them up. I'm GC alum, I'm not still there either.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 17, 2006, 05:15:25 PM
Excuse me I don't own your transcript but none the less youre a homer, just like everyone else on this board......I don't get on here and just talk smack, You think I'm talking smack cause I downgraded GC, so all of a sudden I talk trash, I got on here and speak my mind on football, much like yourself I am an alum to this conference, if u did indeed play in the IBFC, or if you just keep an eye on it, I get on here and stand up and say what I feel about the play in this conference, You accuse me of talking trash....Screw that......I said it last week when all the AU haters were saying they would lose to BU...I WAS RIGHT......I get on here speaking that a lackluster team from years past (CUC) will lose to AU this year, because AU is struggling this year but they are still the better team, and now your blowing my "simple logic" comment way out of proportion, gimmie a break, AU beats CUC this year just like last year, and the year before that, and the year before that and so on and so forth
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 17, 2006, 06:57:38 PM
Basemen21-- you have some issues that I think a good Shrink could help you with.  If you had half a brain you would realize that by eating together, practicing together, showering together, etc.  builds team chemistry/unity,  and a mutual respectability between teammates.   I don't know what your team used to talk about in the shower (and I don't really want to know), but at Elmhurst, we would discuss which lady we were going out and/or how it went with over the weekend, what we were doing after the Saturday football game, perhaps it was a test we had been studying for all week etc.  nothing along the lines of gay or (other things) that you speak of.
Sounds to me that you are a lonely person that doesn't know what the concept of team is.  My HS football coach had a saying for team-  T together E everyone A accomplishes M  more.  and you can't spell Team with I.  Yes, those are corny sayings, but if you truly believe in a team, then you know that individualism doesn't work.
Now then, If I wasn't covering EC's game vs. IWU I would love to be at the CUW/Lakeland game.  I think this is a good battle between 2 very evenly matched squads.  As I said before, I think CUW wins this game with defense.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 17, 2006, 07:20:14 PM

There is a simplier way to look at the AU - CUC game this week. The most recent W & L for both teams.

AU-W, CUC-L or another way to look at it
CUC-L, AU-W

either way its AU-W and CUC-L, so bring your rain coats and booties ladies and your smack talk if you think that help run up the score. AU plays football - it accepts its Ws & Ls as part of the game and moves on, something CUC has figured out yet. CUW will go 10-0 and win its first playoff game for the IBC.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 17, 2006, 07:56:54 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on October 17, 2006, 07:20:14 PM

There is a simplier way to look at the AU - CUC game this week. The most recent W & L for both teams.

AU-W, CUC-L or another way to look at it
CUC-L, AU-W  

either way its AU-W and CUC-L, so bring your rain coats and booties ladies and your smack talk if you think that help run up the score. AU plays football - it accepts its Ws & Ls as part of the game and moves on, something CUC has figured out yet. CUW will go 10-0 and win its first playoff game for the IBC.



that is just pathetic...you know your football aufb...do me a favor, I am looking to bet this week on some NFL games, with your awesome football knowledge, can you let me know who wins some games, you really seem to know what you are talking about. Thanks!!! ;D

TRU, you shouldn't let him get to you, GC is a real good team and everyone acknowledges that (accept for him obviously) and not everything sucks north of I-70, we all arent like Da One up here. Anyways, lets talk some football now, picks this week from people who actually have knowledge of football???

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_7_seven on October 17, 2006, 08:03:57 PM
I read several days (weeks) ago that someone said this conference is going to be no more in a couple of years.  Is this true?  If so where are the teams going?  Have any already made commitments to others? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2006, 08:35:29 PM
Those that are in the Northern Athletics Conference for their other sports will be in the NAthCon for football as well:

http://www.d3hoops.com/conference_info.php?conf=NATHC&team=m

Those that are in the SLIAC for other sports will be in the SLIAC for football as well.

http://www.d3hoops.com/conference_info.php?conf=SLIAC&team=m
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 17, 2006, 10:12:00 PM
mac_7, heres the info where GC is going to be......

Regardless the IBC is going to be no longer after the 2007 season.  The St. Louis Intercolligiate Conference (SLIAC) takes over for some of the IBC teams. The SLIAC will begin football play in 2008, featuring 10 teams. There will be 2 divisions seperating those teams the North Div. and the South Div.  The 10 times are......   

North Div. (SLIAC Conf)
1. Crown College (MN)
2. Martin Luther College (MN)
3. University of Minnesota-Morris
4. Northwestern College (MN)
5. Principa

South Div. (SLIAC Conf)
1. Greenville College  (IBC)
2. Blackburn Colelge   
3. Eureka College      (IBC)
4. MacMurray College (IBC)
5. Westminster

They will also be a automatic qualifier for the NCAA DIV III Tourney beginning in 2010.   Should be a great Conference.


"http://www.sliac.org/other3/news01.htm"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 17, 2006, 10:31:18 PM
Jaybird-

Just saying in general it's just a gay thing to take a shower with bunch of other dudes, no matter what you are talking about, I guess I am just too homophobic for my own good.

I am just trying to have a good time on the board by not being too serious all the time. 

and I think the TEAM saying has been used by every coach in the world, but at my HS it was Together Everyone Achieves More, not accomplishes, but I guess different strokes for different folks right?

And regarding your lonely comment, I am actually married, so I am not what you would call a "lonely" person.  Just not a very serious person, which is why I thought listing out things that are gay was a fun time.

So are we not getting that list from the 7th graders?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 17, 2006, 10:33:55 PM
I just had a quick question Pat about the new conferences. I know you gave us the links but it confuses me for football.

Aurora
Benedictine  
Concordia (Ill.)
Concordia (Wis.)
Dominican  
Edgewood
Lakeland
Maranatha Baptist
Marian
Rockford
Wisconsin Lutheran

so, the new conference would be these teams minus Dominican because they don't have a football team? For some reason I thought that North Park was being brought into this conference....stupid rumors. Oh well, if you could clear that up Pat, it would be cool. Thanks.

     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 17, 2006, 10:57:27 PM
Basemen21-- fair enough and I see your point now.  I actually have heard the achieves more part too.
Pat- Will the Northern Athletics Conference Champion be given an Automatic Qualifier to the NCAA Playoffs for Football and Basketball?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 17, 2006, 10:58:47 PM
So far as I am aware, North Park has NO plans to leave the CCIW, and the CCIW has no plans to expel NPU.  I can't think of any reason why such a plan would be contemplated from either end.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 17, 2006, 11:06:43 PM
In reality, the only sport that North Park is NOT competitive in (throughout history) is Football.  They were Nat'l Champs in Basketball (multiple times) and were at one time unbeatable in basketball.  Men's/Women's Soccer they are competitive and their baseball team usually holds their own.
Elmhurst in the 90's struggled in football but were competitive in most other sports.  Sometimes just because a school is not on the map in a particular sport, doesn't mean the conf. and/or the school wants to pursue other conferences.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2006, 12:04:42 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 17, 2006, 10:12:00 PM
mac_7, heres the info where GC is going to be......

Regardless the IBC is going to be no longer after the 2007 season.  The St. Louis Intercolligiate Conference (SLIAC) takes over for some of the IBC teams. The SLIAC will begin football play in 2008, featuring 10 teams. There will be 2 divisions seperating those teams the North Div. and the South Div.  The 10 times are......   

North Div. (SLIAC Conf)
1. Crown College (MN)
2. Martin Luther College (MN)
3. University of Minnesota-Morris
4. Northwestern College (MN)
5. Principia

South Div. (SLIAC Conf)
1. Greenville College  (IBC)
2. Blackburn College   
3. Eureka College      (IBC)
4. MacMurray College (IBC)
5. Westminster MO

They will also be an automatic qualifier for the NCAA DIV III Tourney beginning in 2010.   Should be a great Conference.


"http://www.sliac.org/other3/news01.htm"

Trucountry, several questions...

How did Principia get stuck having to travel north?  Coin flip?  Short straw?

Will the conference still play the Dome Day game as the UMAC has and as suggested in earlier communcations?  Will the Dome Day decide the AQ?

How likely are we to see the members schedule other inter-divisional games (beyond the mandated two) to find competitive teams for their schedules?  Wash U is getting NCAC teams added to its UAA regulars.  The LMC/NAthCon will have only 3 non-conference dates and an 8 team (even numbered) conference line-up.

Are any other SLIAC/UMAC/NAthCon teams contemplating adding football for gender equalization or enrollment augmentation reasons?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 18, 2006, 12:27:05 AM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on October 17, 2006, 10:33:55 PM
I just had a quick question Pat about the new conferences. I know you gave us the links but it confuses me for football.

Aurora
Benedictine 
Concordia (Ill.)
Concordia (Wis.)
Dominican 
Edgewood
Lakeland
Maranatha Baptist
Marian
Rockford
Wisconsin Lutheran

so, the new conference would be these teams minus Dominican because they don't have a football team?

Basically, except Edgewood and Marian also do not have football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 18, 2006, 12:40:03 AM
sorry about the NP comment, I didn't know what to think because you guys are right, why would a conference want to let that team go??? Anyways, thanks Pat for answering th question...I just didn't know which other teams didn't have football other than Dominican.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 18, 2006, 01:22:26 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 18, 2006, 12:27:05 AM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on October 17, 2006, 10:33:55 PM
I just had a quick question Pat about the new conferences. I know you gave us the links but it confuses me for football.

Aurora
Benedictine 
Concordia (Ill.)
Concordia (Wis.)
Dominican 
Edgewood
Lakeland
Maranatha Baptist
Marian
Rockford
Wisconsin Lutheran

so, the new conference would be these teams minus Dominican because they don't have a football team?

Basically, except Edgewood and Marian also do not have football.

I think CUW better enjoy the rest of the season because with Rockford and Wis Lutheren in the conf. next year I dont see them being champs.

Also, someone commented on how the teams from chicago are garbage(or something)
I disagree compleatly, look what BU and CUC have done this year!!!!! BU is playing better, and CUC is going to beat AU for the first time in a long time.

CUC did not even play there best WR for CUW and look what happen, this week AU has a long bus ride home.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adders75 on October 18, 2006, 01:53:26 AM
7400 I just want to say that I don't think that CUW has a whole lot to worry about as far as Wisco.  We have played them over the last couple of years and though the games were never the blow outs like they should be we have always won.  I don't have any idea what Rockford is like but I think a change for the conference could be a very good thing.  Gets all the teams out there to see what they can do against other schools in the Northwest for a while.  Just what I think should be an interesting next few years.  And someone said that the IBFC breaks up after the 07 season just a little confusion there I was under the impression that this was the last year.  Any one have difinitive info on that?  Thanks
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 18, 2006, 01:56:22 AM
You really think Wisconsin Lutheran is that good? Here's their non-MIAA games the past two years:

Sept. 3   Valparaiso    L 17-3       
Sept. 10   Rockford •    L 21-14       
Sept. 17   at Concordia (Wis.) •    L 40-13    
Sat., Sep 9   2:00 pm   vs. Dubuque •   L, 7-48       
Sat., Sep 16   7:00 pm   vs. Concordia (Wis.) •   L, 0-39

Rockford's non-UMAC games:
Sept. 3   Eureka •    W 35-10       
Sept. 10   at Wisconsin Lutheran •    W 21-14
Nov. 5   Washington U.    L 14-5    
Sat., Sep 2   2:00 pm   at Aurora •   W, 16-6       
Sat., Sep 9   2:00 pm   vs. MacMurray •   W, 22-0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 18, 2006, 09:12:04 AM
Ralph,
           The teams in the south division are already current SLIAC members in different sports. So Principia got put in the North Div. to make it 5. I do think Principia was the last to join the new SLIAC conference. 
           The SLIAC will have a dome day for Championsip between the two conferences with the first one I'm pretty sure slated for the Edwards Jones Dome in St. Louis.  I'm not sure if this game determines the AQ, I would think it would.
           Greenville has played Wash U since 2004 so GC may schedule
Wash U for 1 of its inter-div games.


adders75 - according this site it is after the 2007 season.
                   http://www.sliac.org/other3/news01.htm
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on October 18, 2006, 09:17:59 AM
7400west,
You really need to get out and watch other D3 teams besides the IBC teams.  Go watch a CCIW (North Park doesn't count), WIAC, or IIAC game and see the difference.
Rockford = no good (and they beat my Spartans this year)
Wis Lutheran = no good (lost to Rockford)
The UMAC could be worse than the IBC.
It is sad to say but the only team in the IBC that is even remotely good is CUW.  The new conference will make travel easier, but it is not an upgrade in quality teams.  
Just playing better when you are historically one of the worst teams in D3, still makes you garbage.

Pat, I know post like this hurt my karma.  But, I am tired of these guys posting with out doing their homework.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 18, 2006, 10:04:03 AM
Quote from: 7400West on October 18, 2006, 01:22:26 AM

Also, someone commented on how the teams from chicago are garbage(or something)
I disagree compleatly, look what BU and CUC have done this year!!!!! BU is playing better, and CUC is going to beat AU for the first time in a long time.

CUC did not even play there best WR for CUW and look what happen, this week AU has a long bus ride home.

7400..............Never Gonna Happen.............NEVER
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on October 18, 2006, 10:11:35 AM
I have a question about the new conference (SLIAC)...

Why are MN teams with the teams with the teams down south, I know they are in different divisions, but how did the teams of this conference come about, it seems kind of random to me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on October 18, 2006, 10:13:04 AM
...and...

are there going to be different divisions in the NAC?  Or is there not enough schools with football programs in the NAC to have 2 divisions?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 18, 2006, 11:02:38 AM
Rockford and WI Lutheran might be doing well in their respective conference, but compared to other local conferences, they are NOT very strong and would have trouble competing.
Ex.  A few years ago Elmhurst played a home and home with Rockford.  Elmhurst ripped up Rockford both times and the games weren't very close.  Elmhurst in turned struggled in the CCIW against Augie/Millikin/Wheaton.  The point?  Elmhurst was a middle of the pack team in the CCIW (at the time) and still pounded Rockford handily. 
I have never seen WI Lutheran play, but the scores and opponents I see them playing, make me think they would have trouble putting together 2-3 wins in the CCIW. 
2006, I would say the IIAC is stronger top to bottom than the CCIW.  In year's past no, but 2006 yes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 18, 2006, 12:07:40 PM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on October 18, 2006, 10:11:35 AM
I have a question about the new conference (SLIAC)...

Why are MN teams with the teams with the teams down south, I know they are in different divisions, but how did the teams of this conference come about, it seems kind of random to me.

Cougs, the UMAC schools had a chance to gain access to the NCAA playoffs faster by affiliating with the SLIAC, when the SLIAC decided to resume sponsoring football.

A conference needs 4 full members to sponsor a sport.  When there is a combination of full and affiliates that makes seven for 2 consecutive years, then the conference qualifies for the Automatic Bid (Pool A).  The Presidents AC is in year #2 of that process by adding full member Thomas More; the Northwest Conference (NWC) added Menlo as an affiliate and is in Year #1.  Other conferences that have achieved Pool A status with the use of affiliates are the ODAC (Catholic), the Liberty League, the Empire 8, the NJAC (Western Conn, Cortland St and Buff St) and MIAA (Wisconsin Lutheran).  The USAC also has Maryville as an affiliate.

The presidents and conference administrators of both conferences saw this as the quickest win/win/win for their student-athletes and acted upon it.

Da One is right about the quality of play in this conference.  Unfortunately, they may be seeded against the top seeds in the brackets and a playoff win will be infrequent, but I have looked forward to the day that the SLIAC/UMAC would do what is right for its student-athletes.  A conference championship among institutional peers is what D3 is about.  I am glad to see this and look forward to the conference getting its first Pool A bid.  It certainly isn't getting Pool B bids as it is now.

The Pool A bid will come from the Pool B allocation, which will drive consolidation of other independents, which is another message board... ;)

After a couple of years in Pool B, the IBC bid basically goes over to the NAthCon.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 18, 2006, 01:18:58 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on October 18, 2006, 10:04:03 AM

7400..............Never Gonna Happen.............NEVER

about beating AU, why is it never going to happen! come up with some kind of argument!
I have posted how CUC cant lose at home this year. I have said that CUC's homecoming will make it even harder to play them. I have also posted how the new coach has changed CUC for the better, I have also posted how CUC's wr is back and I have also posted how hungry CUC is coming off a CLOSE game at CUW!!!! AU is never talked about on this site. other posters agree that the upset is almost not going to be an upset. I think CUC wins this game on heart and less turnovers!


As for CUW, Wisc. Luther, and Rockford. I just went by how every one, even poster on this page, talk about the IBC. I could be wrong. I have been wrong, and will be wrong again!

Good Luck to all the teams, except AU for this week!

Lastly for the time being, CUW wins the rest of there games but does not win a playoff game. sorry but you need to pound "young teams" and beat good teams to get that kind of respect! Congrats on winning conf. anyways. But that is it!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 18, 2006, 01:39:23 PM
What's everybody's picks for Saturday? Anyone from MAC coming to the GC game? I'll see ya there.   Good luck this Saturday IBC teams
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 18, 2006, 03:03:38 PM
Because CUC has never beaten them......CUC has only played 2 home games against EC (this years gimmie game) and Blackburn (another historically crappy team)........They cant lose at home till this Saturday When AU beats them....Good luck to CUW and AU........
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 18, 2006, 04:49:26 PM
Fatal, you still come up with no good evidence as to why AU is going to beat CUC other than we have never beaten AU. Thats a pretty pathetic arguement and who cares if you were right about this week. I will say this, it is cool to see have someone so much confidence in a team and that I will not take away from you...but can you come up with something better?

AU @ CUC- CUC takes this one, better offense hands down. This will depend on how good the CUC defense plays.

MAC @ GC- GC comes out fired up after last weeks score and MAC is just MAC...GC takes this one by a good margin.

CUW @ LC- This will be a good game but CUW takes it. Lakeland isn't what they used to be.

Eureka @ BU- This gets boring game of the week. BU takes this one and Eureka probably will get over 50-75 yards of personal penalties.

good luck, whats your pics TRU? They always seem to be pretty close.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 18, 2006, 05:07:53 PM
Here's my pics for this Saturday Oct. 21st.

BU vs Eureka      BU wins  33-14
CUC vs AU          CUC wins 22-18
MAC vs GC          GC wins  35-13

******GAME OF THE WEEK***** 
LC vs CUW          CUW wins  38-27

Good luck to the IBC teams this week
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 18, 2006, 05:23:05 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 18, 2006, 01:56:22 AM
You really think Wisconsin Lutheran is that good? Here's their non-MIAA games the past two years:

Sept. 3   Valparaiso    L 17-3      
Sept. 10   Rockford •    L 21-14      
Sept. 17   at Concordia (Wis.) •    L 40-13    
Sat., Sep 9   2:00 pm   vs. Dubuque •   L, 7-48       
Sat., Sep 16   7:00 pm   vs. Concordia (Wis.) •   L, 0-39

Rockford's non-UMAC games:
Sept. 3   Eureka •    W 35-10      
Sept. 10   at Wisconsin Lutheran •    W 21-14
Nov. 5   Washington U.    L 14-5    
Sat., Sep 2   2:00 pm   at Aurora •   W, 16-6       
Sat., Sep 9   2:00 pm   vs. MacMurray •   W, 22-0

Pat,

Maybe 7400 meant to say "Lakeland", rather than Wisconsin Lutheran. Given the Muskie more competitive football record, it would make more sense.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: wlcalum on October 18, 2006, 05:53:57 PM
I too would not expect WLC or Rockland to be a power...in the short term. I do expect WLC to improve dramatically in the next couple of years when they begin to get local press instead of MI press. Hard to recruit players when no one has heard of you... or if you don't win games.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 18, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
QuoteFatal, you still come up with no good evidence as to why AU is going to beat CUC other than we have never beaten AU. Thats a pretty pathetic arguement and who cares if you were right about this week. I will say this, it is cool to see have someone so much confidence in a team and that I will not take away from you...but can you come up with something better? 


Ellwood -

What's your argument, that CUC beat Eureka and Blackburn?  Also, please clarify what you mean by MAC is just MAC.  You must be refering to the team CUC hasn't beaten since 1992..  All I've seen on this board latey from the CUC guys is how good you're getting.  Last time I checked, there wasn't a "Moral Victory" column on the standings page...  Your program has/is improved, but you guys are making fools out of yourselves for bragging on here about beating two teams that have 2 wins combined as well as the team's your losses. 

Thanks, I'll hang up now and listen to yours and 7400's to response...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 18, 2006, 08:23:37 PM
Quote from: mac_5_seven on October 18, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
QuoteFatal, you still come up with no good evidence as to why AU is going to beat CUC other than we have never beaten AU. Thats a pretty pathetic arguement and who cares if you were right about this week. I will say this, it is cool to see have someone so much confidence in a team and that I will not take away from you...but can you come up with something better? 


Ellwood -

What's your argument, that CUC beat Eureka and Blackburn?  Also, please clarify what you mean by MAC is just MAC.  You must be refering to the team CUC hasn't beaten since 1992..  All I've seen on this board latey from the CUC guys is how good you're getting.  Last time I checked, there wasn't a "Moral Victory" column on the standings page...  Your program has/is improved, but you guys are making fools out of yourselves for bragging on here about beating two teams that have 2 wins combined as well as the team's your losses. 

Thanks, I'll hang up now and listen to yours and 7400's to response...

haha, figured i would get a smart ass remark out of one of you. I would first like to say that, I have not once bragged about CUC losing, yes I have said they are getting better. There is nothing wrong with people coming on here talking about the teams they like whether they win or lose. Two, I don't think the team themselves has a moral victory column either so keep saying crap like that I guess. Mac squeaked one out against CUC so yea MAC won, ok fine...I never said anything other than MAC is just MAC and I will keep that to myself because what I have to say is pretty harsh and would be wrong to post. Second, I think I started the second part of my post with....Fatal,
this simply means I am talking to Fatal, not Mac_5_seven. Thats all I want is a valid reason as to he thinks AU is going to beat CUC this weekend. Thats all I have read is CUC-L, AU-W...CUC lost to MAC and BU, AU beat them. Well, I simply stated that MAC had to start a 4th string quarterback or 3rd string..whatever...against AU. There is a big diff between a 1st string qb and a 3rd or 4th string qb starting. And I am sure that could be agreed upon.

And last but not least, what are going to hang up??? Are you on the phone? I was just curious. Thank you. Hey Fatal, does Mac_5_seven speak for you now? I was curious about that too.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 18, 2006, 08:46:37 PM
time out i was reading on here and some of guys are naming the best players in the IBFC right now and none of u named # 9 from MAC i think u should look at who is leading the IBFC in tackles, wait dont look there because all u have to do is look at the NCAA stats and see he is 3rd in the country look 3rd in the country  and a pre-season ALL-AMERICAN at LB to me makes him no doubt the #1  LB in the IBFC, i played highschool with the kid and college and i know how he plays so u guys are telling me from reading ur post that he isnt **** and everyone other LB in the IBFC is amazing look at the stats and ask ur RBs how they fell after playing 4 qts with a dude that makes sure his teeth are in ur throat every play thats LM football....and i could still come back and no DB will hold me down.....haha.....LETS GO MAC FINISH THE YEAR STRONG...>>>#22 U SUCK LOL......WALL STREET LARRY O MY O MY its a meat market bro so many wait until thanksgiving .....ooooo ahhh lake mary oooo ahhh lake mary ooo ahhh lake mary lets go # 9............
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 18, 2006, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: mac_5_seven on October 18, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
QuoteFatal, you still come up with no good evidence as to why AU is going to beat CUC other than we have never beaten AU. Thats a pretty pathetic arguement and who cares if you were right about this week. I will say this, it is cool to see have someone so much confidence in a team and that I will not take away from you...but can you come up with something better? 


Ellwood -

What's your argument, that CUC beat Eureka and Blackburn?  Also, please clarify what you mean by MAC is just MAC.  You must be refering to the team CUC hasn't beaten since 1992..  All I've seen on this board latey from the CUC guys is how good you're getting.  Last time I checked, there wasn't a "Moral Victory" column on the standings page...  Your program has/is improved, but you guys are making fools out of yourselves for bragging on here about beating two teams that have 2 wins combined as well as the team's your losses. 

Thanks, I'll hang up now and listen to yours and 7400's to response...

here is a nefty little stat= mac 7 CUW 47
                                          CUC 20 CUW 31
                                        CUC is a better team NOW then mac is!

The CUC of last week beats BU, Mac, EC, blackburn, and scores a hell of alot more in the games with Chicago and Rose!! Mac just lucked out by having the ball last against CUC!!

------

AU fans want AU to win, CUC fans what CUC!!! But fans of other teams seem to be favoring CUC, It is going to be a close game, i will say that, if vagas cared i would guess that the line would be AU by 3.5 and the over/under be 60ish!! I would take CUC and pick the over! how about everyone else!

the rest of the games should be...

BU 44 EC 24 BU runs the ball all over them!
CUC 31 AU 30 *game of the week* CUC's plays inspired by Homecomming and new era!
MAC 7 GC 24 GC's d shows up to play!
LC 30 CUW 44 CUW has a good week of being yelled at and pissed and shows up for this one, Lake cant hang!

Good luck and have a good week of games IBC!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 18, 2006, 09:17:53 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on October 18, 2006, 08:46:37 PM
time out i was reading on here and some of guys are naming the best players in the IBFC right now and none of u named # 9 from MAC i think u should look at who is leading the IBFC in tackles, wait dont look there because all u have to do is look at the NCAA stats and see he is 3rd in the country look 3rd in the country  and a pre-season ALL-AMERICAN at LB to me makes him no doubt the #1  LB in the IBFC, i played highschool with the kid and college and i know how he plays so u guys are telling me from reading ur post that he isnt **** and everyone other LB in the IBFC is amazing look at the stats and ask ur RBs how they fell after playing 4 qts with a dude that makes sure his teeth are in ur throat every play thats LM football....and i could still come back and no DB will hold me down.....haha.....LETS GO MAC FINISH THE YEAR STRONG...>>>#22 U SUCK LOL......WALL STREET LARRY O MY O MY its a meat market bro so many wait until thanksgiving .....ooooo ahhh lake mary oooo ahhh lake mary ooo ahhh lake mary lets go # 9............

dirty players in college dont get honors(unless you are from Miami *joke*), and the way mac plays it is easy to assume that he is a dirty player (#9) no other coaches are going to vote for many Mac players because of the rep!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: star826 on October 18, 2006, 09:20:38 PM
Im new on here......but i decided to post a couple of stat concerning the LC vs. CUW games.  I do think this will be the best game in the IBFC this year for the past 3 years the winner of this game has controlled their own desinty for the remainer of the season..........I noticed that everyone is picking CUW over LC which i can see why they are 7-0.....however I think you have to look a little closer at their schedules and their oppenents records.......

CUW non-conf. opp. record 5-13
LC non-conf. opp record 15-4

CUW opp. overall record 10-33
LC opp. overall record 22-22

I guess my question is does everyone who is picking CUW based on their record (7-0) think they would be 7-0 if CUW played LC non-conf schedule

i believe this game will be deicide on Sat. and not based on the past 7 weeks which seems to be everyone else logic for their picks. These two teams are both quailty teams one (LC) just has played a hard schedule so far.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 18, 2006, 09:41:39 PM
ooooooooo  so 7400west u like dick ur probably the one im talkn about that got his bell rung by #9.....3rd in the country in tackels no body in the IBFC is close to that sooo i think he will be LB of the year and also u will be seeing this kid play in the Atezc bowl.... i really doubt that u will get any votes arent u the guy that carries the coaches head set great job..... MIAMI joke HUH thats alil crazy on ur part it looks like MAC is n ur head that there dirty haha......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 18, 2006, 10:14:53 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on October 18, 2006, 08:46:37 PM
time out i was reading on here and some of guys are naming the best players in the IBFC right now and none of u named # 9 from MAC i think u should look at who is leading the IBFC in tackles, wait dont look there because all u have to do is look at the NCAA stats and see he is 3rd in the country look 3rd in the country  and a pre-season ALL-AMERICAN at LB to me makes him no doubt the #1  LB in the IBFC, i played highschool with the kid and college and i know how he plays so u guys are telling me from reading ur post that he isnt **** and everyone other LB in the IBFC is amazing look at the stats and ask ur RBs how they fell after playing 4 qts with a dude that makes sure his teeth are in ur throat every play thats LM football....and i could still come back and no DB will hold me down.....haha.....LETS GO MAC FINISH THE YEAR STRONG...>>>#22 U SUCK LOL......WALL STREET LARRY O MY O MY its a meat market bro so many wait until thanksgiving .....ooooo ahhh lake mary oooo ahhh lake mary ooo ahhh lake mary lets go # 9............
Quote from: Reeno10 on October 18, 2006, 09:41:39 PM
ooooooooo  so 7400west u like dick ur probably the one im talkn about that got his bell rung by #9.....3rd in the country in tackels no body in the IBFC is close to that sooo i think he will be LB of the year and also u will be seeing this kid play in the Atezc bowl.... i really doubt that u will get any votes arent u the guy that carries the coaches head set great job..... MIAMI joke HUH thats alil crazy on ur part it looks like MAC is n ur head that there dirty haha......

you sound really intelligent Reeno. Nice use of word selection, scum bag. Another one to make the IBFC look so great. Obviously, from MAC and probably, just probably...and this is a wild guess, this just might be #9 himself. No offense to you #9 or if this is one of his "homeboys" but if there was a good LB for MAC I would go with the freshmen dude, #1. Solid kid and only a freshmen!!! With the way I have seen him play, he should really be at a different school and not a dump.

I think star makes a good point about the opponents records of CUW and LC. It is going to be a very good game and who knows what will happen.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 18, 2006, 11:11:19 PM
I haven't heard any good evidence to supprot that they would beat AU......They held on close to CUW, but they stiil lost....They know they lost.....They are used to losing, they have two W's from two crappy teams.....Moral victories are BULLSH** and everyone knows it......CUC is going to lose this weekend.....And though me and mac_5_seven share the same opinion he does not speak for me nor I him......Marcus Ellwood all you've told me is how I'm wrong......you haven't proved being right......AU wins by atleast 14......Though CUC is getting better, they just can't win
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ftbll4life on October 19, 2006, 12:05:15 AM

Quote from: Reeno10 on October 18, 2006, 08:46:37 PM
time out i was reading on here and some of guys are naming the best players in the IBFC right now and none of u named # 9 from MAC i think u should look at who is leading the IBFC in tackles, wait dont look there because all u have to do is look at the NCAA stats and see he is 3rd in the country look 3rd in the country  and a pre-season ALL-AMERICAN at LB to me makes him no doubt the #1  LB in the IBFC, i played highschool with the kid and college and i know how he plays so u guys are telling me from reading ur post that he isnt **** and everyone other LB in the IBFC is amazing look at the stats and ask ur RBs how they fell after playing 4 qts with a dude that makes sure his teeth are in ur throat every play thats LM football....and i could still come back and no DB will hold me down.....haha.....LETS GO MAC FINISH THE YEAR STRONG...>>>#22 U SUCK LOL......WALL STREET LARRY O MY O MY its a meat market bro so many wait until thanksgiving .....ooooo ahhh lake mary oooo ahhh lake mary ooo ahhh lake mary lets go # 9............
Quote from: Reeno10 on October 18, 2006, 09:41:39 PM
ooooooooo  so 7400west u like dick ur probably the one im talkn about that got his bell rung by #9.....3rd in the country in tackels no body in the IBFC is close to that sooo i think he will be LB of the year and also u will be seeing this kid play in the Atezc bowl.... i really doubt that u will get any votes arent u the guy that carries the coaches head set great job..... MIAMI joke HUH thats alil crazy on ur part it looks like MAC is n ur head that there dirty haha......

i seen this kid play......he jumps on piles at the end of plays and get a tackle for it....he is not the best LB in the IBC...not even the best LB on his team. That goes to #1 that kid can play play. If the gave awards for crying and talking he would win hands down!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 19, 2006, 05:51:54 AM
Just wanted to post and piss-off a few. I said all along this would be the game of the conference and here we are. Now I realize everyone thinks I am partial to Lakeland but quite frankly the truth of the matter is that CUW should be favored by 21 for this game I don't know if my Muskies have the heart! I guess we will see Sat. I havn't left the band wagon because Coach Z is the BEST coach in this cionference, just don't feel his players are up to the task against a power like CUW. When the game is over I will tell you my reasoning for this post. HEART IS WHAT THIS GAME IS ABOUT!!!!!!! DO THE MUSKIES HAVE IT!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 19, 2006, 07:47:11 AM
  Gomers picks for saturday, Oct 21st.
   
    (1) AU vs CU-C: CU-C is having a good year compared to years passed
     but  while they may play AU close they will lose none the less.
     (2) Eureka vs BU:  Could be a really good game. In an up-set special,
      Eureka takes this one.
     (3) Mac vs Greenville:  Mac is going now where. Greenville on the other
     hand is showing signs of life and will knock the snot out of Mac.
     (4) CU-W vs Lakeland:  Lakeland played some very strong teams early
      and got  pummeled. Since then they have looked average in conference
    play. To quote the resident "homer". " Heart is what it`s all about."
     I`m not to sure if LC finds "heart" it`s going to make any difference.
     CU-W has come out of the starting gate full bore and hasn`t looked
     back. The name of the game is ......win, and they`ve done that.
      Lakeland will make a game of it but...... CU-W will beat them like a
      rented mule, all be it with lots of heart. ;D         
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 19, 2006, 09:37:27 AM
Quote from: Reeno10 on October 18, 2006, 09:41:39 PM
ooooooooo  so 7400west u like dick ur probably the one im talkn about that got his bell rung by #9.....3rd in the country in tackels no body in the IBFC is close to that sooo i think he will be LB of the year and also u will be seeing this kid play in the Atezc bowl.... i really doubt that u will get any votes arent u the guy that carries the coaches head set great job..... MIAMI joke HUH thats alil crazy on ur part it looks like MAC is n ur head that there dirty haha......

First I have to say the only award that is being given out is the most comedic post award and you might have just passed up good old langstons on this post! What is wrong with you? Do you have self esteam issues or what! MAC just got past CUC and I never got my bell rung by anyone by MAC, that i can be sure about! I am not a player on CUC this year, just a fan who hates dirty players, Mac is two weeks old as far as CUC is concerned and me aswell! Good luck getting votes now, as much as coaches tell there players not to read the post on here, the coaches do so anyways and they are not going to vote for someone like you or #9 or anyone from mac! and from what i hear from people i know at mac you or #9 are dirty and not a team player, I really think you should choose your words better when you post on hear, but you think being a dirty player is cool! like a little boy! tell me you are in my head and you post that!!!ahahahahahahahahahahahahahget real !

Quote from: FatalImpact on October 18, 2006, 11:11:19 PM
I haven't heard any good evidence to supprot that they would beat AU......They held on close to CUW, but they stiil lost....They know they lost.....They are used to losing, they have two W's from two crappy teams.....Moral victories are BULLSH** and everyone knows it......CUC is going to lose this weekend.....And though me and mac_5_seven share the same opinion he does not speak for me nor I him......Marcus Ellwood all you've told me is how I'm wrong......you haven't proved being right......AU wins by atleast 14......Though CUC is getting better, they just can't win

moral v's are not bull! anyone will tell you they would rather win, but when you are building a team you need to have inspire and as a coach find ways to get your players to buy into what you are trying to do! Most of the time the ONLY thing that works is seeing progress!!!!!! Winning is the highest of that and when you were 0-20 you love beating anyone and need to beat the weak teams like EC and blackburn, but comming close to the "best" team in conf. is huge for a struggling team, I think you have forgotten(Fatel, Mac57) how football players minds and body work, i admit that sometimes i do. BUT CUC will not bend over for you or anybody anymore like in the past, they have confidence and a leader in the QB! I see this game being very close and if AU pulls if off the great for them but CUC will not be fare behind! but i still see CUC playing well at home infront of a big crowd(concordia Il. standerds) and winning this game! Alot of people wont be surprized!

and the University of Miami should be ashamed of how they handled what happen with FIU!!!!! ASHAMED!!!


SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING I HAVE BEEN UP ALL NIGHT WORKING!

OH AND gomer, you are taking a big chance on EC over BU, but i welcome it for pure "WOW" EFFECT! and if CUW has come out of the starting gate and not looked back you have to agree that there was a nail or rock in the path that gave them a little stumble that was CUC!!!

Maddog, how can you say coach Z is the best coach and he cant get his players up for the game!??????? does not sound like a good coach to me if what you are saying is true!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 19, 2006, 10:11:57 AM
7400west. I have been around football many years and Coach Z is up there with Bo Schembecler and Woody Hayes, in time watch, as for getting his players up well he does not play the game the players do and its up to them to get HEART and up for this game. No one can controll the mind set of a person only the person themselves, And Bobby don't let has beens bring you down YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR.  TRUST ME
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superstar on October 19, 2006, 10:16:26 AM
i know this might be old news but i still havent heard what happen to hornung from Aurora U.  can anyone fill me in?  will he return next year?  

who cares about concordia illinois.  if they beat (which is highy unlikely) aurora this year so be it.  aurora only has 2 wins.  

the real matchup is for the conference title and everyone else can worry about next season.  peace
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 19, 2006, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on October 19, 2006, 10:11:57 AM
7400west. I have been around football many years and Coach Z is up there with Bo Schembecler and Woody Hayes, in time watch, as for getting his players up well he does not play the game the players do and its up to them to get HEART and up for this game. No one can controll the mind set of a person only the person themselves, And Bobby don't let has beens bring you down YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR.  TRUST ME

Maddog would you like to explain please your reasoning for the very very slim chance Bobby Langston has at being Conf. Player of the Year? 
My reasoning he's not done anything statistically so far. He's number 2 in the conference for tackles for loss and he's 20 people behind J.R. Harriel from GC which is #1 in the Conf for tackles with loss.  Maddog seriously be real everyone pretty much knows Conf. Player of the Year is Aaron Gillispie (CUW). Noone really comes close. The only person that could come close to Aaron is maybe the WR from Lakeland,  White.   Defensive Player of the Year  I'm still going with J.R. Harriel from GC he's proven it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on October 19, 2006, 10:36:32 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on October 19, 2006, 10:11:57 AM
7400west. I have been around football many years and Coach Z is up there with Bo Schembecler and Woody Hayes, in time watch, 

:o :o

This could be the all time dumbest post I have ever seen on this site!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 19, 2006, 10:46:05 AM
7400West:

    I know you like CU-C so................
    CU-C is having a much improved year and they did play CU-W well losing
    31-20 and maybe CU-W didn`t respect them as a team (read, thump
     them as usual) but here are two teams going in the same direction.
    CU-C is laying the ground work for the future by winning some and
     getting those "moral victories." By that i mean, while losing their not
      getting blown out as in the past which, to me, shows progress .
        while CU-W on the other hand is showing the IBC what a winner looks
          like, IMO. 
      Plus..........they got the "W" against CU-C.   :D
     
     

       
   
   

         
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 19, 2006, 10:56:01 AM
the two front runners for conference player of the year are gillespie and mike steinmetz....they both are already over 1000 total yards for the year...but i think the edge is going to steinmetz bc he is the conference leading scorer....CUW vs. Lakeland stat...cuw has 4 of the top 6 leading scorers in the conference... #1 stein with 10 tds and 2 2pt conv. #2collier with 8 td receptions (the conference website says 7 but it also says he threw one which he really caught), #5 mai with field goals and extra points #6 gillespie with 6 tds....lakelands closest player is white at #9 with 5 tds
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on October 19, 2006, 11:05:32 AM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 19, 2006, 10:36:32 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on October 19, 2006, 10:11:57 AM
7400west. I have been around football many years and Coach Z is up there with Bo Schembecler and Woody Hayes, in time watch, 

:o :o

This could be the all time dumbest post I have ever seen on this site!

Jim Zebrowski (27-11) All of these wins at Lakeland
Woody Hayes (238-72-10)  Most of these wins at Ohio State
Bo Schembechler (234-65-8) Most of these wins at Michigan

Oh yeah, he's "up there" with the other two!  ::)

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 19, 2006, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 19, 2006, 10:36:32 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on October 19, 2006, 10:11:57 AM
7400west. I have been around football many years and Coach Z is up there with Bo Schembecler and Woody Hayes, in time watch, 

:o :o

This could be the all time dumbest post I have ever seen on this site!

    Just for clarification............Maddog said that not 7400West.
    Hey Mel, you forgot Knute Rockne,George Allen and who` was that that guy that coached the packers? Oh, ya, Coach "Z"??  No, not really.
    It was a coach "Z" what-ta-be, Vince  Lombardi.
    You need to walk around the parking lot some, the fumes are getting to
      you.  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on October 19, 2006, 11:13:41 AM
Gomer,

Maddog's post referreed to 7400west.  I was merely quoting his exact post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 19, 2006, 11:15:28 AM
Cardnial what ever, did you graduate? or even play football to understand it, What a JONES, read before you burp, I said in time. And where are u in the real world. Obviously NOT playing football or better yet coaching. In time Z will be up there. It did take Woddy and Bo many yrs not just 4 to become the coaches they were. Don't be stupid and post before you read. NOW that's dumb!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on October 19, 2006, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on October 19, 2006, 11:15:28 AM
Cardnial what ever, did you graduate? or even play football to understand it, What a JONES, read before you burp, I said in time. And where are u in the real world. Obviously NOT playing football or better yet coaching. In time Z will be up there. It did take Woddy and Bo many yrs not just 4 to become the coaches they were. Don't be stupid and post before you read. NOW that's dumb!

Did I graduate?  Yes, in fact, I have two degrees, which obviously gives me two more than you by the looks of your grammar and spelling.  Did I play football?  Yes, in fact, I was a halfway decent player on a couple of decent teams.  "read before you burp"?  ??? Where am I in the real world?  I am at my desk.  I am too old to still be playing football and don't have the time to coach.  I actually read quite well, which is why your asinine comment caught my eye.  You get back to your literacy class.  You aren't paying enough attention!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 19, 2006, 12:11:22 PM
Maddog, I think what Cardinal is trying to say is that you can't put an ok D-III football coach who has had some success in the past 4 years on the same level as 2 coaching icons/legends of D-I football. 

And I think he is right, I can't believe you would even think such a thing.

Along with your pick for player of the year, Langston?  Come on Maddog, since he is a D-I and NFL prospect and all right?  He got lit up against CUC then cried to the refs the whole game.  But, I am sure he would kick ass out at USC or start at Texas, etc....  I bet he would never even start at a good D-I AA program.  But for D-III, Langston is a good player.

Gillespie will win conference player of the year, and I think White should be up there too, he has 22 more receptions then the next WR.  Though, doesn't have the most TDs, which may be a factor.  Anyhow, Gillespie will win it and has my vote

Langston, not so much.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 19, 2006, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 19, 2006, 11:13:41 AM
Gomer,

Maddog's post referreed to 7400west.  I was merely quoting his exact post.

   10-4
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 19, 2006, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: 7400West on October 19, 2006, 09:37:27 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on October 18, 2006, 11:11:19 PM
I haven't heard any good evidence to supprot that they would beat AU......They held on close to CUW, but they stiil lost....They know they lost.....They are used to losing, they have two W's from two crappy teams.....Moral victories are BULLSH** and everyone knows it......CUC is going to lose this weekend.....And though me and mac_5_seven share the same opinion he does not speak for me nor I him......Marcus Ellwood all you've told me is how I'm wrong......you haven't proved being right......AU wins by atleast 14......Though CUC is getting better, they just can't win

moral v's are not bull! anyone will tell you they would rather win, but when you are building a team you need to have inspire and as a coach find ways to get your players to buy into what you are trying to do! Most of the time the ONLY thing that works is seeing progress!!!!!! Winning is the highest of that and when you were 0-20 you love beating anyone and need to beat the weak teams like EC and blackburn, but comming close to the "best" team in conf. is huge for a struggling team, I think you have forgotten(Fatel, Mac57) how football players minds and body work, i admit that sometimes i do. BUT CUC will not bend over for you or anybody anymore like in the past, they have confidence and a leader in the QB! I see this game being very close and if AU pulls if off the great for them but CUC will not be fare behind! but i still see CUC playing well at home infront of a big crowd(concordia Il. standerds) and winning this game! Alot of people wont be surprized!


I guess after being 0-20 ............and scrapping together to small victories an almost win.....Which by the way you would have needed two possesions to win.....SO if you wanna call 11 points close go for it......But CUC lost last week......Ad they should be prepared to lose this week


I think steinmetz gets it over gillespie....from what I've seen he appears to be the better back IMO........Also Langston will prolly be the D-Player of the year .........Sorry Tru.......But he gets it....He's just better
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 19, 2006, 01:22:33 PM
Comparing D-III football to D-I football is like comparing Apples to Oranges or Peppers to Carrots.  They are both football but totally different worlds.
Both of you guys, how about legendary Amos Alonzo Stagg at U Chicago?  He is the greatest football innovator I have ever read about.  In fact, most of what we know about "today's" football can be traced back to one of Stagg's inventions and/or ideas.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 19, 2006, 01:42:32 PM
Yeah, or even Gagliardi.

If you have a championship game named after you or the trophy for the best D-III player named after you, then you were pretty special. 

Before putting Zebrowski on such a high pedestal and stating him being up there with Hayes or Schembechler, let's wait 10 years down the road and see if you are saying the same thing. 

AU and CUC is a toss up game, either of them win by 3-7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 19, 2006, 01:43:35 PM
I seen some replies...When someone said that my boy gets all of his tackles for jumping on the pile...Well heres one for ya DUDE....45 SOLO tackles this season so far 23 assisted!! i believe if you look it up he is 3rd hold on let me say it again 3RD  in the COUNTRY for SOLO tackles....So i hope to clarify that for ya!!! now lets talk about trash talking...Maybe he doese maybe he doesnt..But i played with him in high school for Lake Mary Fl, and in college for 2 years and everything he talks he backs up on the field and not one player can deny that!! I am not knockng #25 or bobby from bc from what i head from #9 that those two are very good but peopel lets look at the FACTS..........Led the conference last year in tackles as well as in the top 10 or 15 in the nation...and comes back this year with a pre-season All American honor and is doing better than he did last year...still leading the confernce in tackles and in the top 10 again in the country, especally when there is an X on his chest!!! For you guys to disrespect my boy like have is NUTS!!!!! If you want to talk about record, as i beleive i dont htink mac has a good offense this year and teams thay played mac can vouch for that, but thats another subjsct i am am just sticking up for my boy bc he comes for a great high school program from which there are player at USC, NAVY, PURDUE, ECU, and St. Olafs to name a few, and was a stand out there, and got alot of respect down there, but in this conference NONE!!! Just take a look, I DARE YA.... AS FAR AS ME, I was reciever of ther year in thsi conference 2 years ago and 1st team all-conference so i dont really need to hear SH*T from anyone, bc i did what i needed to do....Oh yea i got 2 rings toooooO HAHA....I am just sticking up for my friend and a good football player!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 19, 2006, 01:46:37 PM
Fatal-
         Could you please back up with something why you think Langston would be Defensive Player of the Year. Just a stat or something.  I'll go first with J.R. then you follow with Langston then we'll and everybody will compare.......

J.R. Harriel   2005 1st Team IBC
                  2006  2 Time Defensive Player of the Week  against BU & AU
                  2006  1st in Tackles for Loss
                  2006  1st in Forced Fumbles (9th in Nation)
                  2006  2nd Tackles
                  2006  2nd Solo Tackles
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 19, 2006, 01:52:57 PM
Reeno-
            I like how you back up your nomination for Defensive Player of the Year with all his stats.  I agree with you #9 is an awesome athlete and he's  a front runner for Defensive Player of the Year.  I think it will come down to him and J.R. #9 is an All-American also which may just get him the title.  You gonna be at the game Saturday at G.C?

Fatal- were waiting for your stats on Langston or anything as to why you pick him for it?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 19, 2006, 03:55:56 PM
You really did give me any stats you just stated what he was.......from what I can tell langston is the better player, and I have seen them both play......Plus langston is a defensive lineman, and Harrel is a linebacker........Everybody knows its harde for a d lineman to rack up as many stats as he has....LB's make like 75 % of all plays.............And from what I've read youre the only one that says harrel is the Dplayer of the year so daont say "we're waiting" on an answer when you just wanna know why I dont think harrel will win it.....Just cuz he's the team leader from GC and you came from there does not give him the award
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 19, 2006, 03:57:28 PM
As far as stars post goes (a couple pages back)  Where did you get your information from?  Look at the non-conference games from the past few years.  I agree it will be a good game, it always is in the first half, but like the past 4 out of 5 years CUW pulls away.  

As for Langston He may just be be defensive player of the year; its not all about stats.  You have to realize teams will create a gameplan entirely around him.  Its not just about stats and I know Harriel is a very good player, I take nothing away from him.  As far as #9 from Mac; he is no doubt a good athlete but I think I have seen him miss as many tackles as he has made.  

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 19, 2006, 04:02:09 PM
 Greenville's JR Harriel was IBFC Deffence Player of the week for 10/4/06 and 10/10/06 so somebody must think he's pretty good!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 19, 2006, 04:04:29 PM
Defensive Player of the week...sorry about the spelling.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 19, 2006, 04:19:29 PM
You know instead of posting a new reply you could just use the "modify" feature....

Just trying to help you out.

Whatever, they should just spice it up and pick a punter as IBC player of the year, then no one is angry that their guy doesn't get picked. 

So I nominate all punters from the IBC as players of the year

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 19, 2006, 05:53:43 PM
Im a little lost in this convo so someone catch me up to speed.  Did someone mention #9 from MAC is an All-American? cause i definitely looked and didnt see him on there.  Correct me if im wrong or just lost.  thanks

Also, having to block Langston on occasion I will say his is the best defensive player in this conference.  JR was difficult to block cause he was quick, for me being an o-lineman at least.  But langston was just a beast.  Him and that mike lloyd guy 2 years ago made for the least entertaining afternoon of football ive ever had.  thanks
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 19, 2006, 08:07:07 PM
baseman if the punters were the only nominees for POTY then it would be CUC's shoeless punter who was player of the week after they played EC, also the QB for CUC was potw after EC so if what you are saying (d3ftball1) then they are nominees for best player aswell........NO haveing a good week is not Year worthy!

I think Steinmetz is a better runner then Gillespie.

and stop talking about coach z being amazing, it is making my eyes hurt reading it!

IN TEN YEARS THE FACT IS THAT HE WILL HAVE MOVED ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS OR MOVED ON DOWN THE LADDER!

the way players are choosen for awards is so messed up that Langston will win it because of his press! and that is sad!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 19, 2006, 08:14:30 PM
A big part of the players making so many tackles is the defense scheme...MAC's linebacker has free lancing ability....he can run around whereever he wants....he gets a lot of tackles but BAM he miss reads a play and its to the house for the other team...plus you have to look at how many times that the mac's tackles are down field for huge gains...CUW has a man for a gap...

A few years ago a CUW D-lineman won POY bc no one could run to his side
(not bc he led in tackles)...maybe thats what will happen for langston...CUW may have the best players at every position this year...its gonna be hard picking all conference backs and recievers from CUW bc they have to spread the ball so much and run so much...plus CUW has 4 possible 1st team guys but we all know not all can get 1st team so that will be interesting... best opposing player i have seen this year is that QB from CUC..thats includes MAC's LB...he might have had a better game against us than the QB from north central...ill stop blabbing,

peace
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 19, 2006, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on October 19, 2006, 08:14:30 PM
A big part of the players making so many tackles is the defense scheme...MAC's linebacker has free lancing ability....he can run around whereever he wants....he gets a lot of tackles but BAM he miss reads a play and its to the house for the other team...plus you have to look at how many times that the mac's tackles are down field for huge gains...CUW has a man for a gap...

A few years ago a CUW D-lineman won POY bc no one could run to his side
(not bc he led in tackles)...maybe thats what will happen for langston...CUW may have the best players at every position this year...its gonna be hard picking all conference backs and recievers from CUW bc they have to spread the ball so much and run so much...plus CUW has 4 possible 1st team guys but we all know not all can get 1st team so that will be interesting... best opposing player i have seen this year is that QB from CUC..thats includes MAC's LB...he might have had a better game against us than the QB from north central...ill stop blabbing,

peace

I like the props for CUC's QB, he works hard and takes stratigic chances!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 19, 2006, 08:47:41 PM
7400

I wasn't  saying anything about player of the year...I just said he was a good defensive player. I wouldn't say anything about player of the year I dont know enough about all the teams/players in the conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lil sparty on October 19, 2006, 09:36:25 PM
Superstar,
  From what I have heard, Hornung has a problem with his throwing shoulder and could not compete this season.  No word on whether he will play next year or not.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 20, 2006, 01:03:39 AM
Quote from: d3ftball1 on October 19, 2006, 08:47:41 PM
7400

I wasn't  saying anything about player of the year...I just said he was a good defensive player. I wouldn't say anything about player of the year I dont know enough about all the teams/players in the conference.

I know, i was just thanking you for the comment!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2006, 09:33:21 AM
Quote from: bufan on October 19, 2006, 05:53:43 PM
Im a little lost in this convo so someone catch me up to speed.  Did someone mention #9 from MAC is an All-American? cause i definitely looked and didnt see him on there.  Correct me if im wrong or just lost.  thanks

Also, having to block Langston on occasion I will say his is the best defensive player in this conference.  JR was difficult to block cause he was quick, for me being an o-lineman at least.  But langston was just a beast.  Him and that mike lloyd guy 2 years ago made for the least entertaining afternoon of football ive ever had.  thanks

   Go to the MacMurray Football web-site, the write-up is there with all the
   information.
   He (#9) made the Don Hanson "Pre-Season" list. Check it out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 20, 2006, 11:17:24 AM
#1 from MAC will one day most likely be an All American...#9, Mr. 3rd in the nation for solo tackles, getting your boys on here to rep about him, should not be. Just because he is third in the nation for solo tackles (which could be a fluke, any player could get stats that DIDN'T occur) there are a lot more things that go into being an All-American. #9 doesn't have these "traits" and probably never will. #1 however does. #1 is a good player and like I said in a previous post, only a freshmen. It's insane the way this kid plays and once again, I am puzzled as to why he is playing at MAC. Hope you wear arm sleeves or something kid, you don't want to get stabbed by some kid of jagged object on MACs field, but good luck in the rest of your seasons, you are a rising player.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 20, 2006, 11:39:33 AM
Yeah, yeah.  We all know Mac's field blows, but jagged objects on the field?  At the off campus field all we had to worry about was if there was going to be any grass left on the playing surface by week 3..

I have to agree with mac_7_seven, that a coaching change should be in Mac's future.  Seems like the team has spiraled a bit out of control since Frey left.  Frey might have been an absolute lunatic, but at least he had control over his players..  It was usually him that got the unsportsmanlikes...   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 20, 2006, 03:04:45 PM
by jagged objects on the field, I meant shards of glass. I know a couple of guys on Aurora and and from CUC who had said they walked the field before the game and found glass laying around from beer bottles. I just found that to be insane, especially for a college game field.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2006, 09:33:21 AM
Quote from: bufan on October 19, 2006, 05:53:43 PM
Im a little lost in this convo so someone catch me up to speed.  Did someone mention #9 from MAC is an All-American? cause i definitely looked and didnt see him on there.  Correct me if im wrong or just lost.  thanks

Also, having to block Langston on occasion I will say his is the best defensive player in this conference.  JR was difficult to block cause he was quick, for me being an o-lineman at least.  But langston was just a beast.  Him and that mike lloyd guy 2 years ago made for the least entertaining afternoon of football ive ever had.  thanks

   Go to the MacMurray Football web-site, the write-up is there with all the
   information.
   He (#9) made the Don Hanson "Pre-Season" list. Check it out.

That "All-American" list had nearly 300 kids on it. That's more like "All of America" if you ask us.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 20, 2006, 07:14:44 PM
now pat dont be a hater...i give you minus 10 karma points for that one
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2006, 07:42:06 PM
  Hey Pat:
      The guy was just asking for information and i told him where to find it.
       Is there a problem ??
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ftbll4life on October 20, 2006, 08:54:40 PM
Pat,
Where would one find this list?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2006, 07:42:06 PM
  Hey Pat:
      The guy was just asking for information and i told him where to find it.
       Is there a problem ??
     
     

Only that it's not a legitimate All-American team, that's all.

I'm not going to pass along that list. It's misleading to label that many kids "All-Americans."
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 20, 2006, 10:39:37 PM
pat, while i agree with your OPINION about the bull with placing that many on an AA team but its just your opinion so you get -50 karma points again for being mean...u should at least message the team to whomever wants it
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 10:41:07 PM
I doubt it's my job to publicize another site's blatant grab at publicity. No thanks.

You lose points for having an outdated e-mail address in your profile. Please update.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 20, 2006, 11:50:22 PM
Now now children....

Why would you even argue with Pat??? That has to be the dumbest thing to do on here, but you are doing it. Anyways, tomorrow should be an excellent day of football. CUW will win with no sweat, CUC makes an example of Aurora, BU dominates Eurekas weak run defense, and GC wipes the floor with MAC. Thats how things are going down this weekend. Everyone have a great Saturday.

LET"S GO FIGHTIN' IRISH!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 21, 2006, 12:47:10 AM
i love pat ...but he does take things too seriously so i cant help but pick on him
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 21, 2006, 03:41:39 AM
Marcus.......You've got that backwards.... AU makes an example of CUC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2006, 09:25:11 AM
I do take things seriously, that's true. If I didn't, this site wouldn't exist.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 21, 2006, 10:04:22 AM
good point.... MUAH (on the cheek)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 21, 2006, 01:18:22 PM
Yeah I figured that list you mentioned Pat was kind of bogus.  I played against Lenny Radkte for 4 seasons and got to see him upclose.  He was a second team All-American.  There is no one on Mac that even closely resembles radkte.  End of that.

The games are about to begin but here are some of my last minute thoughts.

AU 31, CUC 21
CUW 30, LC 8
BU 27, EC 14
GC 21, MAC 16
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 21, 2006, 04:44:28 PM
End of Game        Greenville- 34              MacMurray- 20

POUND THE ROCK!!! POUND THE ROCK!!!  GC PANTHERS!!! EMAP!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 21, 2006, 05:21:22 PM
 ;D The trophy comes back to mequon ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 21, 2006, 05:24:12 PM
Who has got the scores......lets see 'em
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 21, 2006, 06:28:10 PM
http://[shadow=red,left][glow=red,2,300][u]au%2042 %20 %20cuc%207%20final[/u][/glow][/shadow]
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 21, 2006, 06:29:53 PM
AU 42      CUC 7 ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 21, 2006, 06:31:31 PM
ONE MORE TIME

AU 42  CUC 7  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 21, 2006, 06:33:09 PM
ANY CUC CHILDREN CARE TO COMMENT  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 21, 2006, 06:52:00 PM
7400 - Talk to me ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 21, 2006, 07:35:21 PM
Same old CUC i guess.  7400west u almost had me believing.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 21, 2006, 08:01:05 PM
   CU-W.................................30
   LC...................................................18

   Good luck to CU-W down the line!!

   LC, put a fork in them, their DONE!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 21, 2006, 08:06:36 PM
ouch

I expected a better showing than that from CUC, especially on their homecoming.  No excuses though, AU looked to play some awesome offense as well as defense, CUC wasn't up to the challenge it looks like.

And........I guess I am on the gay list

That blows.

CUW, awesome win, 10-0 and trip to the playoffs, get a win for the IBC this year.. 

Will probably end up playing an amazing team though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 21, 2006, 11:26:01 PM
What ever happened to the lessons you learned in pee-wee leagues..  Win with grace and lose with grace  ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 22, 2006, 01:52:07 AM
C...U...DUB.... there is a weird balance of players on lakeland...some that play the game with great respect and play like men...then there are others who run their mouths and hit way late...but they played all game and made plays...that was a fun game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 22, 2006, 02:25:39 AM
Idk, but regardless of the score between LC and CUW.  It was a hell of a game. you can't expect to win, though, with 3 to zero turnovers.  I feel the offense showed up a few times for Lakeland, but not enough. LC's defense flies around well, but CUW made the plays went it counted the most.  Whoever doesn't make the most mistakes wins and this game wasn't the exception.  Alot of young talent at LC and expect a showing next year if they can ever get their sh*t together and show up to play, with heart and urgency.  Pissed they let me down, but still, good luck to CUW in the playoffs.   Hell with how good the other team is, show up to play, don't F!@# up on plays.  Show who's got the bigger balls.  Good luck to rest of the other teams in conf, but more luck to the Muskies.  Keep the heads up, Alot of talent but you need to EXECUTE regardless who's across from ya.  Kick @$$, F*** names.  Go Muskies!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on October 22, 2006, 03:42:38 AM
Jaybird,
Sometimes people need to be give a little dose of reality.  All we heard all week is how improved the CUC team was and how they were so close to turning the corner with the program.  I have watch AU twice this year and they are a far cry from what I would consisder a good football team.  They have some young talented players, but they have some growing to do. 
CUC fans need to keep supporting there team.  However, they need to be more realistic with the current situation.  They are getting better and will continue to do so.  Just pull off one upset before you start predicting them (especially if you are a current player).  That's all I ask. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 22, 2006, 10:18:59 AM
DaOne-- I agree that until you start beating quality teams you can be boasting about your team.  My point is that after the game win/lose you should not be degrading/making fun of/ showboating  the other team.  My point was more along the lines of sportsmanship.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 22, 2006, 11:42:25 AM
Give me a break J-Bird, check out the last line of your fight song.

AU has as many underclassmen as CUC. We don't burn up the blogs about how great we are or how were going to beat the next team we play. They do, they did and we gave them a case of the ass. Maybe this little bit of humility might help them make make their next game a little more interesting to watch.   

By the I didn't make fun of CUC they did that all by themselves, my message was aimed at 7400 who talked S... all week. I didn't hear you condemn his BS so whats your deal?  ???   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 22, 2006, 01:35:23 PM
ok all you AU lovers,

           It was not the game i expected. I at least was hoping for a closer game, I was very upset, not as upset as what happen to northwestern this weekend! congrats to AU and it really shows you class right now how you are posting, but i would do the samething if CUC won, it almost seems like you guys are surpized at your win...so am I!

CUC is better just could not bring it on Sat.

could be that some of the younger players "do not prepare the night before the game" as they should. BUT I did not play nor did i coach so i will not give anyexcuses for why they lost. All i will say is that both sides of the ball need to just find what they had the last couple of weeks. AU did get under the skin of the linebackers for the game and AU's short running back did run hard. but cuc will rebound and play better in the last two weeks of the season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 22, 2006, 05:25:32 PM
I for one was not suprised AU won, I had been saying it all week, it was all the CUC lovers who said the game was gonna be close,  I knew AU would take it to CUC and they did....On to next week
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on October 22, 2006, 08:53:53 PM
AUFB05-- "Score more points we got to leave them behind, Elmhurst to victory"  Where in this sentence does it imply boasting, degrading, deceitful, or negative karma towards another school and/or opponent?  ???
I interpret this line as "C'mon guys, score some points and win that game".  Nowhere does it say "Hey this team is awful, these guys suck, Elmhurst is #1 and there is no other."  I don't see your point on this one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 23, 2006, 01:12:46 PM
AU crushes CUC... so what.  THat happens every year, even when AU isn't very good.  They beat the bricks off of EC as well.  Who cares?  Not me.  The game I want is against LC.  This game will tell you if the Spartans are heading in the correct direction or if they just beat up on poor teams and lost to decent teams.  If they have improved over the course of the season they will have a good showing against LC.  58-0 DON"T EVER FORGET.  Congrats to CUW on winning confrence.  Good luck in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 23, 2006, 01:34:57 PM
CUW has not won conference yet...if they cant beat greenville then we have another 3 way tie
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 23, 2006, 01:56:38 PM
CUW will beat Greenville....no tie this year......AU destroys EC......and then beats Lakeland
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 23, 2006, 02:30:05 PM
Greenville has a great chance of making the upset happen. Greenville will be ready. Last year when Lakeland had to close out the season with GC everyone picked LC by 5 TD's and they were suppose to crush GC because of all their "NFL" type players and how great they were still didn't mean anything to us, we lost by 7. Greenville's going to be ready for CUW, it's going to be a good game.  Greenville's defense has to stop the run and make CUW try and pass all day.  GC will come to play Saturday!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 23, 2006, 02:58:43 PM
 TruCountry95:
    When you mentioned " NFL" players i thought of Maddog.
     Funny how the biggest "Homer" around is no where in sight after his  LC boys ( an average team at best) led by Coach Woody Hayes, Oops, sorry. I mean Coach "Z" lost their game against CU-W.
    Hey Maddog, time heals all wounds. Once you come to grips that
     Lakelands run is OVER, Yes Really Over, the healing will begin.
     Now you know how your alter ego (Mel Allen) must have felt when his
     beloved NY Yankees  lost. 
     Man up Maddog. ;D
     

       
   
       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 23, 2006, 03:03:22 PM
  Maddog:
      Hope your getting your..........All Maddog Team........ready.
      That`s one thing you do well as i know you put a lot of time and effort
       into the selections. 
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 23, 2006, 05:21:55 PM
Fatal-

Though I agree AU will destroy EC, they will not destroy Lakeland like you say.  Sure, they destroyed CUC but Lakeland is no CUC.  Lakeland destroys AU in my opinion.  But first concentrate on EC, they gave Greenville a run for their money.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adders75 on October 23, 2006, 06:30:15 PM
I would have to say that Maddog's team is not all that acurate.  Last year he had a player on the second team all maddog that was out all season with an ACL tear.  So either he doesnt do his homework or he just really liked that player.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 23, 2006, 10:11:29 PM
Congrats to Fatal for yet again, picking a winner. Words can't express the game Saturday, CUC did not look like CUC and Aurora came to play. Baseman, it does look like you are gay but you had faith in your team, you shouldn't lose it.

It is good to see that Lakeland got beat by CUW. Does anyone think that GC could maybe give CUW a run for their conference title (other than TruCountry)?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 23, 2006, 11:02:32 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 23, 2006, 05:21:55 PM
Fatal-

Though I agree AU will destroy EC, they will not destroy Lakeland like you say.  Sure, they destroyed CUC but Lakeland is no CUC.  Lakeland destroys AU in my opinion.  But first concentrate on EC, they gave Greenville a run for their money.

I didnt say AU would destroy LC.....I simply said that AU would beat them....so that could mean 1 point or 10 points ....it leaves the door open for anything....contrary to what tru says I think CUW cuts through GC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on October 23, 2006, 11:04:22 PM
I dont think GC will give CUW a run for their money, this week they gave up more than 300 rushing yards to Mac and lets face it Mac's offence has not been here this season, I think it will be a good game but I think that CUW will win by atleat 2 TDs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 24, 2006, 05:23:04 AM
adder 75 the individual in questuion from CUW would havemade 1st team had he not been injured, therfore I gave him second team seeing he was second team the year before. second I was only 4 picks from the IBFC picks and I picked first last yr before IBFC came out so B--W me.

Homer Gomer the Muskies played a good game from what I herd, they made to many mistakes which cost them the game but they were in it. They will go unbeaten next yr with the returning talent they have. And Coach Hayes, oops Z is the best and will be the best in this conference. Considering what they lost from last yrs team they responded well this yr. Yes send me your picks and I will consider the doing the "ALL MADDOG TEAM" if this conference and its players still want me too.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 24, 2006, 05:25:06 AM
Oh and Bobby Langston you ARE still the CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 24, 2006, 07:52:25 AM
Quote from: maddog8 on October 24, 2006, 05:23:04 AM
adder 75 the individual in questuion from CUW would havemade 1st team had he not been injured, therfore I gave him second team seeing he was second team the year before. second I was only 4 picks from the IBFC picks and I picked first last yr before IBFC came out so B--W me.

Homer Gomer the Muskies played a good game from what I herd, they made to many mistakes which cost them the game but they were in it. They will go unbeaten next yr with the returning talent they have. And Coach Hayes, oops Z is the best and will be the best in this conference. Considering what they lost from last yrs team they responded well this yr. Yes send me your picks and I will consider the doing the "ALL MADDOG TEAM" if this conference and its players still want me too.

    Hey Mel ( Maddog) did you REALLY write the above??  I read it a couple of
   times and i`m not to sure.   ???
   As far as picks for your "All Maddog team" i really don`t have any.
   You and other posters can have that task. No matter who gets "selected"
      you and i both know there will be nay-sayers with negative comments
    but that`s to be expected.  See Adders75 above. 
    Nobody is going to agree 100% of the time anyway so have at it. 
    As far as Lakeland`s future is concerned, THE FAT LADY HAS SUNG !!
    Those baby cheese heads are finished. ;D       
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 24, 2006, 09:29:19 AM
I select CUW's d-line and o-line for the MADDOG TEAM and their safety and their RB.  And the freshman CB from AU and Marcus Gedkin #92 for the Spartans.  He's good.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 24, 2006, 09:40:33 AM
Quote from: footballisfun on October 23, 2006, 11:04:22 PM
I dont think GC will give CUW a run for their money, this week they gave up more than 300 rushing yards to Mac and lets face it Mac's offence has not been here this season, I think it will be a good game but I think that CUW will win by atleat 2 TDs.

MAC had only 258 yds rushing, Total yds was 350.  Greenville had 443 total yds.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 24, 2006, 10:45:57 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on October 24, 2006, 09:40:33 AM
Quote from: footballisfun on October 23, 2006, 11:04:22 PM
I dont think GC will give CUW a run for their money, this week they gave up more than 300 rushing yards to Mac and lets face it Mac's offence has not been here this season, I think it will be a good game but I think that CUW will win by atleat 2 TDs.

MAC had only 258 yds rushing, Total yds was 350.  Greenville had 443 total yds.
 
  TruCountry95:
     I believe you are in error about the "rushing" yards.
    The Greenville Box score (game stats) show P. Ereg rushed 40 times for
   278 yds alone.  Looks like Mac worked him like a rented mule and he came  through on his part with almost a 7 yd average.
  Ereg has been a solid player for Mac, although it seems like he`s been
   there forever. 
   I said early on that Mac would end up 2-8 this season and i`m looking good.
   
       
     
   
   

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 24, 2006, 11:19:49 AM
oh i see, my bad.   I'm going ahead and picken my scores for Saturday.   

Lakeland @ CUC            LC  WINS   42- 24
Eureka @ Aurora           AU   WINS  30-13
BU @ MAC                      BU  WINS   35-21     

***GAME OF THE WEEK***
Greenville @ CUW          GC  WINS   28-27

Good luck IBC teams.

GREENVILLE PANTHERS FOOTBALL  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 24, 2006, 11:52:51 AM
   I agree with  TruCountry95 that the "Game of The Week" will be
     Greenville vs CU-W.
   One team should win the other can win. Those who get to see it should
     see a whale of a game although, expectations somtimes far exceeds
     the final out-come.
     
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on October 24, 2006, 01:55:51 PM
Where did all the CUC fans go?
Only one game in the IBC worth discussing.  The GV and CUW could be a good one if:  GV defense can play assignment football.  GV o-line can contain the CUW front four.  The CUW qb is forced to throw the ball.  If the CUW running game is clicking this one could be over by the half.
BU / Mac could finish with only one score on the board.
The other two games will be very one-sided.
CUW over GV 42-14
BU over Mac 7-3
AU over EC 35-3
LC over CUC 56-7   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adders75 on October 24, 2006, 08:35:36 PM
well maddog i was the player in question and there is no way that i would have been 1st team anything since i am not good just a scout team player.  i only go in in the 4th quarter for victory formation so i dont see how last year you could have possibly put me on the same maddog team as jon collier who is prbly the best WR in the conference.  just letting you know that i got a good laugh from that last year since i was hurt the first practice of camp and was out for the entire season. and i didnt play the year before either so there is no way that i should have made the team that year either though i wasnt a reader at that point so i dont know.  have fun with your picks and good luck to all this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 24, 2006, 09:09:58 PM
Hang on, I am trying to figure out my picks for this week.

Yes, I am on the gay list now that CUC lost to AU.  But I do support my team 100% no matter what they do.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 24, 2006, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: Da One on October 24, 2006, 01:55:51 PM
Where did all the CUC fans go?

still here Da One, just nothing interesting to read of lately. I could give a rats ass about MADDOGS team or whatever you guys are talking about. ???

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 24, 2006, 10:26:32 PM
Maddog's team has consistantly been pretty close what the actual all conference selections are.  However, I am sure he has not been to a whole lot of games this year so it probably wont happen.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 25, 2006, 01:57:11 AM
I am still here! School work and work work come first! then Posting!

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 25, 2006, 08:04:24 AM
  Front page stuff: Div-3 site.  Around the region.
    Big,big game this week-end.  CU-W odds on to win the IBC if they win against
   Greenville. If they(GC) on the other hand can pull off the major up-set,
   they can put their program on the map (so to speak).   
    CU-W, knows it can`t  take GC lightly as they(GC) are playing their best ball  to-date........tied for 2nd place in the IBC. That alone says something about this years team. 
    Can they beat CU-W ?   Sure they can .    Will they ?  IMO, No.
     There will be no moral victory here if GC loses close.  CU-W on the other
     hand  needs to make a statement here. Win convincingly to show
     dominance and keep mental toughness for the up coming NCAA play-
     offs or win  a close game and go into the play-offs with-out total
      confidence. 
       That being said, they (CU-W) need to dis-mantle  Greenville and leave
        no doubt who the big dog in the IBC is. 
      Carry that over into the play-offs and they have a chance to win one for
      the IBC.
       Would i like to see Greenville win? You bet but like i said ....."i don`t
      think so."
         
 
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 25, 2006, 02:27:51 PM
GC vs Mac box score also said that it was 34 -6 going into the 4th quarter. Judging by the score i would speculate that many of those rushing yards were against non starters.

everyone keeps talking about if gc can make cuw pass, slow down the run. No team has score more than 20 points on cuw. will gc get in the endzone is a bigger question. cuw will get yards, but will gc. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on October 25, 2006, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Genius on October 25, 2006, 02:27:51 PM
No team has score more than 20 points on cuw. 

Sorry, I beg to differ!
;D
Concordia (Wis.) 30, North Central (Ill.) 24
(Sep 09, 2006 at Naperville, IL)
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 25, 2006, 02:46:31 PM
CUW has scored at least 30 in every game this year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on October 25, 2006, 03:18:50 PM
Having not followed GC at all this year, I think that their chance for a win over CUW is going to have to be a shootout.  I think GC has the weapons to do it too.  CUC played CUW very close with their spread out passing offense and if GC hasn't changed since last year, they have a similar attack, except with more years on their belt with the offense than CUC.  In recent years theres no doubt that GC gets up for big games against the more established programs.  I think they have a legitimate shot to win this year. 

That being said, its sad the IBFC will be no more.  From the scoreboards I've seen it looks like the IBFC is really beginning to even out.  The weaker schools are making moves to commit to their football programs and bring them to the top through coaching, stadium upgrades, etc.  It makes for much more interesting competition and hopefully it carries over to the new conference next season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 25, 2006, 03:56:51 PM
Quote from: grover1728 on October 25, 2006, 03:18:50 PM
Having not followed GC at all this year, I think that their chance for a win over CUW is going to have to be a shootout.  I think GC has the weapons to do it too.  CUC played CUW very close with their spread out passing offense and if GC hasn't changed since last year, they have a similar attack, except with more years on their belt with the offense than CUC.  In recent years theres no doubt that GC gets up for big games against the more established programs.  I think they have a legitimate shot to win this year. 

That being said, its sad the IBFC will be no more.  From the scoreboards I've seen it looks like the IBFC is really beginning to even out.  The weaker schools are making moves to commit to their football programs and bring them to the top through coaching, stadium upgrades, etc.  It makes for much more interesting competition and hopefully it carries over to the new conference next season.

GC was only close to their competitors this season and last.....Not years though I do agree that they have improved.....but I recall them getting destroyed until last season.

I think CUW takes this one....though it'll be closer than people think

AU decimates EC .....Like every team this season
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 25, 2006, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 25, 2006, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Genius on October 25, 2006, 02:27:51 PM
No team has score more than 20 points on cuw. 

Sorry, I beg to differ!
;D
Concordia (Wis.) 30, North Central (Ill.) 24
(Sep 09, 2006 at Naperville, IL)
 

It was 17-17 at the end of 60 minutes. I don't usually fault a defense for failing to hold on every possession when the opponent is given the ball on the 25!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on October 25, 2006, 09:48:20 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on October 25, 2006, 02:46:31 PM
CUW has scored at least 30 in every game this year

Pat's argument shoots this theory then!   :P ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 25, 2006, 10:22:53 PM
first of its neither a thoery or a theory...its truth...they have scored at least 30 every game...one time was in 2OT...but regardless scored 30
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on October 26, 2006, 08:21:14 AM
CUW got oodles of respect in the regional rankings.  Looks like if they win out they may be hosting a playoff game, and most likely playing a CCIW team.  Big things are brewing at CUW, and for the IBC. :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 26, 2006, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 25, 2006, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 25, 2006, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Genius on October 25, 2006, 02:27:51 PM
No team has score more than 20 points on cuw. 

Sorry, I beg to differ!
;D
Concordia (Wis.) 30, North Central (Ill.) 24
(Sep 09, 2006 at Naperville, IL)
 

It was 17-17 at the end of 60 minutes. I don't usually fault a defense for failing to hold on every possession when the opponent is given the ball on the 25!

I fault them. conf. champs could stop them, or can they?!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2006, 11:24:20 AM
  Gomers picks for this saturday, Oct 28th.

   (1) Eureka vs AU:  Eureka is just flat bad. Give them their dues though as they show up at game time and play to the best of their ability.
   AU has more and better players over-all  and will win this game with no problem.
    In fact it could be a "blow-out."
   (2)  Lakeland vs CU-C: Lakeland ( Little Cheese Heads) is the better team and wants to atone  for getting thumped last week against CU-W.
CU-C on the other hand, has shown signs of life and could use this  game
  as a bench mark for their program.  If they can pull off an up-set of the once mighty Lakeland team their season will be a gigantic success.
    But i said..........."if",  not  going to happen!
    Lakeland in a cake walk.
  (3)   Mac vs BU:  Mac is going no where fast.  The once proud program has
    become the Eureka of past years. No offense to Eureka intended.
    As Mac will be leaving the IBC for "greener" pastures, maybe this would be a good time to re-evaluate  their program including the coaching staff.
    BU has had Mac`s number the past few years and this year will be no different.
      BU makes Mac look like they are..........lousy.
    (4) CU-W vs Greenville:  Will Greenville have enough to de-rail CU-W??
      Greenville,with a win, can tie for 1st place in the IBC. Who would have
      thought it?     All of a sudden here it is. Can they pull it off?? 
      .
       CU-W on the other hand,  is running on all cylinders.  Undefeated.
       They know full well whats waiting for them with a win. An IBC
       championship and the bigger prize................The NCAA play-offs.
       Oh, and don`t forget the life long reminder...................THE RING!!
       Greenville comes to play but CU-W plays better. Game, Championship, 
        Play-offs...........game, set,match.
       
        Those that can: Keep the board posted as to the scores. 

 
       

     
     
           
     
     
   
   
         
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 28, 2006, 09:37:54 AM
Just to save me some time.

PICKS:

Whatever Gomer said.


Good luck everyone!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 28, 2006, 02:25:58 PM
Here we go boys!!! GO PANTHERS!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 28, 2006, 02:37:39 PM
End of 1st Quarter           Greenville- 7            CUW-0
Greenville on CUW 4yd line
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 28, 2006, 03:05:21 PM
End of 2nd Quarter       GREENVILLE- 7             CUW- 0

Greenville has ball back at Half.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 28, 2006, 03:39:49 PM
Damn, if they can only keep it going the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 28, 2006, 03:40:39 PM
 Looks like Greenville came to play but can they last the full 4 quarters?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 28, 2006, 04:49:05 PM
Aurora-29      EC-14  Final
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 28, 2006, 04:56:10 PM
See, I don't understand how AU blew out CUC....aw well

What about Greenville??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on October 28, 2006, 06:54:04 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 28, 2006, 04:56:10 PM
See, I don't understand how AU blew out CUC....aw well

What about Greenville??

Concordia wins 14-7 in overtime.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on October 28, 2006, 07:45:57 PM
Things are falling into place for a rematch.

North Central beat Augustana, NCC now has the inside track on the CCIW AQ.

North Central at Concordia Wis. first round of the playoffs.

You heard it here first!

Congratulations CUW you are the first team to make the playoffs this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 28, 2006, 08:28:57 PM
  Greenville and CU-W tied at the end of regulation. Had to go into OT
   to come up with a winner.  CU-W.
   Must have been a whale of a game. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 28, 2006, 10:54:16 PM
was a great game....CUW defense amazing same for GC....CUW had guys runnning wide open,no one could cover CUW's guys, and then such bad passes they were picked...but...CUW found a way to win...GC #25 may is the best defender CUW has played against....10X better than that guy from MAC...the only two guys in comp for D player of year are bobby langston and #25...that was on show today
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 29, 2006, 10:14:11 AM
sotha sil,

i don't know about the guys running free all day. they couldn't connect on passes because of good coverage and a windy game.

Neither team could throw the ball in the wind. GC staff figured that out and CUW didn't. So Cuw threw picks.

CUW made plays in the 4th qtr and overtime. That is what good teams do.
Bobby langston...good but not great.
JR Harriel #25...best player in the conference at any position.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on October 29, 2006, 10:43:35 PM
Congrats to CUW and fans!  Hopefully we can get a rematch if we can get in the playoffs!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 29, 2006, 11:53:59 PM
Congratulations Lakeland for getting 100 yds of penalties and 5 personal.

Just a freaking dirty team, glad they aren't going to win conference or go to the playoffs this year, they don't deserve anything no matter what Maddog says.

Also apperently there was some stuff stolen from the boys locker room from the basketball players where lakeland was changing (Ipods, cell phones, etc..) some of these items were found in Lakeland players bags.  Hmmm, what a great team, bunch of thieves and dirty players.

Just no class from Lakeland or their "legendary" (quoting maddog) coach.  But that comes to no surprise to me and it shouldn't to everyone else.  I know there are some players on Lakeland who have class but a majority of them don't.  Just really sad when a defenses goal is to hurt the opposing QB (hitting him late after every play, flying into piles late), but they were succesful on that weren't they?

Oh yeah and #50 looks like an overgrown Webster.......just an observation.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 30, 2006, 01:56:00 AM
                                                    LC          CUC

Penalties: Number-Yards.......   17-180     8-65


I was at the game and there was a drive of 4 flags in a row all Personal fouls against LC. yah they beat cuc but what a buch of cheep bastards. I truly beleive that a team like that should have NO conf. players!!! (a small punishment) for the way they play!, Mac and LAKE are chumps. unlike baseman i am going to say that all of them are to blam because the one's who have class should step up and take control of THEIR TEAM!!!! the coaches are lowsy and need to stop high fiving players for cheap shots and start practicing CLASS!!! It was disturbing to see the coach laughing with his players as and EMT arrived to take a player away!!! I dont care if the hit was liget or not that is WRONG on so many levels. Also, stealing out of a locker room!!! I know for a fact this is true! If I was some of the bball players who found their stuff in LC bags i would have left it there and called the police and then asked all the players to empty the bags. then let the River forest police handle it. no more in school handing of asses, those players need to be arrested!! what a bunch of "tough guys"! give me a break. i cant wait till next year!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 30, 2006, 07:22:23 AM
  (1) baseman201 said in part,"Just a freaking dirty team............" He`s talking about the baby cheese heads, Lakeland.
  (2)  7400West said in part, ".......... what a buch of cheep bastards."  Talking about Lakeland again.
   Both of the above are direct quotes. 
   Then they mention stealing (alleged) by Lakeland.   Not America`s Team!
  Where is the "voice" of Lakeland or better known as.....Maddog?
   Maddog you need to step up and explain (if you know for sure) about the
   alleged thief of these items and voice your comments on the un-sportsmen
   like play of the LC team.
   I realize one man`s dirty play is another man`s hard hit  but the alleged
   stealing?
   Man up Maddog, clear the air.
   
   
   
   
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 30, 2006, 09:20:52 AM
I was also a "guest" at the CUC/ LC game and I am going to say that watching LC play that game (even though they won) was very disturbing. Of coarse, we all know I am a fan of CUC and this is not a reason I am about to dog LC. First off, the things about the coach are true plus many more occassions. Trust me, from the stands, you could really pick out a "goofball" (being nice) when he is over there jumping around and slamming waists with other players, and yes, even after injuring starting QB, #4. It was a sad display of football by LC and the only award they should really get for the season is biggest scumbags of the season, their head coach getting the biggest trophy. Coach of the Year my ass...and don't ever compare him to the great D-1 legendary coaches because he is by far a horrible coach. LC won but let me tell you, they are slipping real fast. Head coaches who try to run the score up while winning 34-0, (continually passing the ball with under 2:00) have no class. Head coaches who get sideline warnings for something ridiculous, have no class. The "pain train's" tracks are riding downhill...ok that was stupid but so is the nickname "pain train", put your dumb train whistles away LC fans.

As for the CUW/GC game, WOW!!! OT, must have been an awesome game. What are you feeling right now Tru? I will have to say that I am cheering for Cuw in the playoffs, they deserve it and will bring back a W for the IBFC. Good luck guys.

GO COUGARS!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 30, 2006, 10:18:10 AM
I think this entire board, with the exception of one or two people, is in agrreance that LC is a team that has long since been known for its cheap play....I once saw a LC Offensive Lineman intentionally drop a knee into an AU line backer...And yes this was in the Coach "Z" era....A team like that, and MAc deserve no awards.....Their team is going down the slippery slope and LC can return to obscurity and let it be like old times where LC will get stomped....It's only a matter of time before all this cheap play and stealing comes back to haunt them......I know I'll catch some flak for this but I think AU gets the W over LC, because AU don't take that crap ever......LC is going down
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 30, 2006, 10:47:59 AM
Alot of topics to cover here today men.  Most of us like Fatal said know LC plays cheap. Unsportsmanlike play is like a traditional value of LC. Oh well they'll get lit up eventually.  Oh well. 
Now what about those PANTHERS!!!  I thought we had it. I know they were pretty down that they lost in OT.  Greenville expected to come in to CUW and play Greenville football and play solid defense.  It was a great great game.  I wish we could of pulled it off there at the end, but this program is going up and it's going to continue to improve. Offense is something that is got to get in rythym and go with it. Good luck to CUW in the playoffs they are a good team and may get that first playoff win.  Once again to all the doubters about Defensive Player of the Year it will most likely be J.R Harriel.  He is the heart of GC's defense and I hope you see that not by what I am saying but by the stats, and the sportsmanship he has showed all year.  There's no reason he shouldn't be Defensive Player of the Year. 
The defense played great i think 4 INT's and cause 2 Fumbles, at one time CUW's QB was sacked 3 times in a row by Russell Reece.  It was a great game by both sides.  There shouldn't be in logical doubters anymore about GC and how they play but ya never know.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 30, 2006, 11:50:54 AM
Well the LC problem has been overstated on this board.  But those acts are pathetic.

Anyways, how about a potential rematch of NCC and CUW?  I would take NCC in that cause it appears their defense is much improved from the first game of the year.  They shutout Augie which just doesnt happen that often.  This would be the best chance for the IBC to get their first win if the rematch were to happen, however.

However, they have to get past BU for that 10-0 season, which will be a good game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 30, 2006, 12:54:29 PM
Just to add about the LC and their sticky fingers! Today I spoke with some of the Bball players who I am friends with and I can not stress how angry I am. I understand that when the BBall players entered the bball locker room and started looking for all thier stuff they started yelling and wondering what happen to their IPODs, cell phones and cdplayers!!! When LC heard this, they like cowards, put the stolen goods ontop of the lockers to make it seem like they did not do anything wrong!!!
WAY TO GET READY FOR A GAME!
COACH Z- YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF AND YOUR SCHOOL SHOULD FIRE YOU!!!!HANDS DOWN THE WORST COACH IN THE CONF. MAYBE FOOTBALL IN MY BOOK! THE WORST PART IS THAT NO LEADER ON LC STOOD UP AND SAID THIS IS WRONG AT ANY POINT, THAT MAKES THE ENTIRE TEAM WORHTLESS!!!

I cant wait till CUC playes LC in bball this winter!!!

Now back to football, I will have to say that CUW will not win it's playoff  game, in order for me to be convinced they needed to murder everyteam in this conf. If NC plays CUW it will not be pretty for CUW, NC is looking for revenge. Oh and Hats off to greenville for the way they played, it sucks that CUC has to play you for their final game. I hope you do will in the new conf. next year! I am worred that CUC's O=line cant hang with Green's D that has been so good this year! CUC needs to play like there is no tomar, and for the sr. there will not be!!!! Good luck to all the Teams (except LC who can all be arrested for all i care!)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: star826 on October 30, 2006, 01:44:06 PM
I also was at the CUC vs. LC game and first of all all you CUC fans/players need to give it a rest.  YES LC did have alot of flags.....but for anyone who was at the games knows they werent all personal fouls......maybe one or two for late hits....most were holding calls which were mostly all bad calls...the LC linemen who out weigh the CUC d-lineman by an average of 50 pounds just was dominating the CUC player and the refs were doing everything in their power to keep the game close........it was a blow out right from the beginning 21-0 in the middle of the first quarter, the refs knew the game was on the verge of getting out of contol reall fast (score wise) and try to slow the game down.........i see nothing has change from sat. game....CUC players crying and begging for calls just like they are crying on this board.  
  **** MAYBE IF THEIR PROGRAM RAISED THEIR LEVEL OF INTENSITY, THEY COULD GAIN MORE THEN 45 TOTAL YARDS IN A FOOTBALL GAME.....IF I COULD REMEMBER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL NOT THE GIRL SCOUTS......45 TOTAL YARDS THATS A DOMINATION, MAYBE THATS WHY THATS WHY SO MANY CUC FANS/PLAYERS FEEL SO VIOLATED...BECAUSE LC KICKED THEIR A**ES UP AND DOWN THE FIELD.

* Now on the issue of stealing things out the locker room........that is horse-sh*t no one from CUC said anything to the players or coaches from LC.  If there was something stolen which i doubt it then it should have been address to the coaches of LC by either the CUC coach or AD.   There was nothing.....so dont come on this board with false statements trying to put down one of the top teams in this conf. 

* And 7400 West you sound like a damn fool.....do you think Coach Z told his palyers to steal anything, by the way I dont think even happened.........you dummy.......worst coach in conf. are you kidding me the man is 24-3 since he started coaching in this league.........7400West i think you are a player on CUC and i got something you should think about........what coach should by fired    the coach who team has 400+ yards of off. whos def. gave up only 45 yards of total off and his team got of 34-0 victory which could have been way worst or the coach who team only gain 45 total yards, who def. gave up 400+ yards and got shut out 34-0 on senior day.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on October 30, 2006, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: 7400West on October 30, 2006, 12:54:29 PM
Just to add about the LC and their sticky fingers! Today I spoke with some of the Bball players who I am friends with and I can not stress how angry I am. I understand that when the BBall players entered the bball locker room and started looking for all thier stuff they started yelling and wondering what happen to their IPODs, cell phones and cdplayers!!! When LC heard this, they like cowards, put the stolen goods ontop of the lockers to make it seem like they did not do anything wrong!!!
WAY TO GET READY FOR A GAME!
COACH Z- YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF AND YOUR SCHOOL SHOULD FIRE YOU!!!!HANDS DOWN THE WORST COACH IN THE CONF. MAYBE FOOTBALL IN MY BOOK! THE WORST PART IS THAT NO LEADER ON LC STOOD UP AND SAID THIS IS WRONG AT ANY POINT, THAT MAKES THE ENTIRE TEAM WORHTLESS!!!


Ok, enough of your feigned outrage. Yes yes, stealing and dirty play is wrong but c'mon dude you're starting to sound like a suburban soccer mom, "This is an outrage! what are we going to do! won't someone please think about the childrent!" Gosh, I hope CUC and all their players/fans are ok, maybe they need a hug?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 30, 2006, 03:51:07 PM
Even if nothing were stolen its is still unbelievable that there should even be a question of theft when visiting another school.  LC is known for the way the play that is why Whitewater left their starters in and ran the score up on them. 

Coach of the year:  Gabe from CUW, at least the defense continues to come ready to play. 

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 30, 2006, 04:42:20 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on October 30, 2006, 03:51:07 PM
Even if nothing were stolen its is still unbelievable that there should even be a question of theft when visiting another school.  LC is known for the way the play that is why Whitewater left their starters in and ran the score up on them. 

Coach of the year:  Gabe from CUW, at least the defense continues to come ready to play. 



I agree.....CUW's coach should be coach of the year.....I also think that Star826, while trying to defend his team, should just listen to everybody, it's not just CUC fans, there are fans from multiple schools sayin LC actst this way, I said it, CUC fans said it, plus falcsfb said thats why whitewater ran it up they were a dirty team before coach z, while coach z is there, and they will be a dirty team when he leaves, its a tradition at the school, just like at Mac.......And believe me from what I have seen over the years Coach Z is not the best coach in this conference
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: hollaatyourboy1981 on October 30, 2006, 05:06:13 PM
HAHAHA! All you guys are chumps! You cry for a team that got completely dominated! And for some reason, believe me, nothing about stealing was mentioned to the coaches, players, or anyone for that matter...I can't wait for LC basketabll to play CUC this year either! Maybe the B-Ball team will cry as much as the players on the field...It sucks getting dominated all over the field, 45 yards of total offense says it all!!! Keep crying for the teams that will forever be at the bottom! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 30, 2006, 05:08:06 PM
Quotethey were a dirty team before coach z, while coach z is there, and they will be a dirty team when he leaves, its a tradition at the school, just like at Mac

Come on now Fatal...  Playing dirty is NOT a tradition at Mac.  They may have coaches that allow their players to act like a bunch of asses now, but for sure not at all a tradition..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 30, 2006, 05:30:58 PM
Yeah, I was going to comment on how Whitewater beat them by like 70 because they played dirty so didn't take their starters out and ran up the score.

Anyhow, enough with the whole Lakeland thing, we all know how they play.

Yeah, good luck to CUW in the playoffs this year, if they play NCC it will be a TOUGH game, they will be out for revenge like someone said earlier.

I hope CUW does win to bring some credibility to the IBC even though it's the last year for the conference.  Plus they are in the Concordia system, which is great as well.

does CUC even play Lakeland in basketball?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 30, 2006, 05:57:00 PM
Im more astonished at the couple people who have came on here and defended LC.  No one care that they held a team to 45 yards, that is far from the point.  And the CUC ex-players who have posted on here have never used the excuse, "we lost cause of the personal fouls."  They admitted they were beaten.  Im sure that someone just didnt make up their ipod and cell phone were stolen, it must have some truth to it, right?  I know you go to LC or went their but have some sense when it comes to things like this.  The whole, high-fiving players after a personal foul is not just made up by people, their must be some truth to it.  I dunno, id be embarrassed if i was you
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: langston92 on October 30, 2006, 06:20:04 PM
lets go FALCONS ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 30, 2006, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: bufan on October 30, 2006, 05:57:00 PM
Im more astonished at the couple people who have came on here and defended LC.  No one care that they held a team to 45 yards, that is far from the point.  And the CUC ex-players who have posted on here have never used the excuse, "we lost cause of the personal fouls."  They admitted they were beaten.  Im sure that someone just didnt make up their ipod and cell phone were stolen, it must have some truth to it, right?  I know you go to LC or went their but have some sense when it comes to things like this.  The whole, high-fiving players after a personal foul is not just made up by people, their must be some truth to it.  I dunno, id be embarrassed if i was you


It is about time that someone here realizes what is going on! my fellow CUC posters who i mostly dont even know who they are, posted about the sticky fingers, NOT about the game play, YES cuc did not do well at all on o but that does not mean you can go into the bball lockerroom and steal, or attempt to steal! The TRUTH is that A cuc player who was enraged with anger about his cell phone and ipod being taken, after he found it over by the lakeland stuff ran out to the field and started yelling franticly at the LC, then his fellow teamates calmed him down and walked away, all the stuff was recoverd(I think) and that was the end of it.

to lC,

You are a disgrace to this great game of Football!

END OF STORY(unless LC posters want to lie some more!)

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on October 30, 2006, 09:09:44 PM
 :o  sorry but I have one more importent FACT to add! the best coach lC ever had left the school to come and coach here. we all know who he was. YOu ask yourself why a coach would leave a school as "great" at LC and come to a "lousy" team in river forest, It was mostly because he did not like the way the school was heading and how the players were starting to act! I think it was a very wise choice if you ask me, good luck LC you need some help in many ways!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2006, 09:12:07 PM
There seems to have been a lot of lying here, but most of it is people lying ABOUT Lakeland, not the other way around.

Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on October 30, 2006, 09:20:52 AM
First off, the things about the coach are true plus many more occassions. Trust me, from the stands, you could really pick out a "goofball" (being nice) when he is over there jumping around and slamming waists with other players, and yes, even after injuring starting QB, #4.

This is apparently utterly false. Also, by the way, sideline warnings are usually given for players being too close to the field. They don't give warnings for coaching behavior, they give unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.

Quote from: 7400West on October 30, 2006, 12:54:29 PM
Just to add about the LC and their sticky fingers! Today I spoke with some of the Bball players who I am friends with and I can not stress how angry I am. I understand that when the BBall players entered the bball locker room and started looking for all thier stuff they started yelling and wondering what happen to their IPODs, cell phones and cdplayers!!!

You understand wrong. Thanks for nothing.

From Lakeland: "The Assistant AD called today and just wanted us to know that items were taken from the men's basketball locker room and found in the swimming locker room.  She did not accuse our players at all.  There were swimmers, basketball players and other people who were around during that time that could have moved the items.  She just wanted to make us aware in case we heard anything.  Everything was
recovered. "

Pardon me if I find Lakeland officials just a wee bit more credible than the anonymous chest-beating loudmouths on this board. You have earned ZERO cred from me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 30, 2006, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2006, 09:12:07 PM
There seems to have been a lot of lying here, but most of it is people lying ABOUT Lakeland, not the other way around.

Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on October 30, 2006, 09:20:52 AM
First off, the things about the coach are true plus many more occassions. Trust me, from the stands, you could really pick out a "goofball" (being nice) when he is over there jumping around and slamming waists with other players, and yes, even after injuring starting QB, #4.

This is apparently utterly false. Also, by the way, sideline warnings are usually given for players being too close to the field. They don't give warnings for coaching behavior, they give unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.

How can you sit there and tell someone, THAT WAS AT THE GAME, that they are wrong. Am I bashing LC's program, yeap, I sure am. Is everyone else??? Yea, they are too. Don't just pick me out of a group and accuse me of lying. The refs DID give LC's sideline a warning and YES, the coaches were right along with the players complaining the whole game. Yes, LC's coach was jumping up and slapping hands and waists or whatever hoopla they do after injuring QB #4. Take sides Pat, big deal, doesn't change the people's view of Lakeland. Whitewater, a team not even in this conference knows how they are.

And to add, "the stuff was found in the swimming locker room" thats where visiting players of Concordia change, thats most likely where Lakeland was and I am sure doors are locked during the game so there were no swimmers...and being someone from CUC, the only people that swim in that pool are most likely senior citizens and young children taking swim lessons.

PROUD TO BE A CHEST-BEATING LOUDMOUTH ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 30, 2006, 10:06:56 PM
Sorry if I come off as being rude Pat but I strongly believe things that I see. I do not believe the locker room story as much and it was more of an assumption as some basketball players from CUC did make it clear that their possessions were in the swimming locker room (ironically where Lakeland players were dressing and around that time). But I will not be accused of lying about what I saw. And being accused of being a chest beating loud mouth is honestly pretty funny because anyone on here with an opinion can be categorized as one and not only on THIS board. So I stand by that. Thanks, is there a way to change your name on here?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 31, 2006, 01:22:13 AM
this is still marcus ellwood by the way... :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 31, 2006, 01:26:21 AM
That is true, Pat you weren't at the game.

Alot can be seen from the stands.  And I think personal friends of basketball players and people who were actually at the game are pretty credible to me.

I know 7400 and I know some basketball players, they wouldn't just make this stuff up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2006, 01:28:46 AM
That's fine -- however, I'm telling you what Lakeland told me and I'm also telling you what a sideline warning is often for.

In fact, in many games I've spent on the sidelines, I've never once seen a sideline warning called without the official moving the team back.

Again, I don't know what credibility you guys have with all the time you've spent axe-grinding and mouthing off and shouting in ALL CAPS and spelling like a nine-year old on this board.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 31, 2006, 02:56:26 AM
Hello Gomer and all others who continue to cry about the Muskies, First, Coach "Z" is the best coach in this conference along with the CUW coach, they have proven themselves time and time again. Enough said on that. Second, who would be so foolish to leave any valuables in any locker room. You subject yourself to have your things stolen. These times are not like the 60/70;s when I was a kid, hell people stole then, so why why why would you leave a valuable in any locker room, LESSON LEARNED, and trust me if Z knew of this the player/s would be kicked off the team. As for personal fouls show a game where one was not made. it is a rarity for any team not to have one or 2. Lakeland and its program is clean cut, they do make mistakes which has cost them some games but dirty. cheap etc, they are NOT. And for the knucklehead who said the pain train is lame, sounds like he kicked your azz during the game.  And you got to be kidding me the BEST coach to leave Lakeland for CUC, TRUST ME HINES, HYNES WHAT EVER WAS THE WORST COACH I HAVE EVER MET OR SEEN COACH,  Other than Coach "Z" the BEST was Randy Awery who is at Saginaw Valley State University. You got to be kidding Hynes, I think my son ryan said it best in front of Hynes and his teamates 4 yrs ago, were only as good as our weakest linkd and he is finally leaving!!!!!! End of that discusion, he was right because then Z came along and LOOK where Lakeland is at the top of there program Where Randy Awery left it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have a great day
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 31, 2006, 07:15:47 AM
  Maddog:
        ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 31, 2006, 09:19:46 AM
maddog,

So lakeland's success had nothing to do with having many of the same guys together for  a couple years? Bring in Coach Z and the rest is history, huh?

bull... any team that stays together will get better and win.  Correct me if i'm wrong, the core of the team was players Hynes recruited with age and experience. Coach Z maybe a better coach but it is stupid to say the last coach was the weak link.

He did something right because he sold the program to recruits, they believed in him and came. He left, they grew up and they win. I suspect if he stays, they grow up, they still win. Coaching is overrated...players make plays!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 31, 2006, 09:20:59 AM
Picks for Saturday Nov 4th, 2006.

LC @ Aurora                     LC   Wins    28-14
MAC @ Eureka                  MAC  Wins   29-21
BU @ CUW                       CUW  Wins   35-17
CUC @ Greenville             GC  Wins    41- 19  

Good luck IBC teams.  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on October 31, 2006, 09:25:33 AM
Personal fouls are part of the game.  During AU's run at the top (98-01) the Spartan's would average 2 or 3 personal fouls.  We played hard and we played through the whistle.  So we blasted a few people as the whistle was blowing... so what.  Its football.  LC does the same thing.  I saw them dominate AU last year and it reminded me of the Spartans from years past.  They were cocky, big, strong, and fast and hit people in the the teeth.  This is what good teams do, bad teams cry about how physical they were and say "that teams dirty".  If you don't like getting it handed to you on the field get stronger, faster athletes and kick their ass between the lines.  

Lastly, all basketball people on this sight... BEWARE OF LARRY WELTON.

Happy Halloween!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 31, 2006, 10:30:01 AM
I agree with Genius

Whenever a team does poorly the coach is always to blame, which is all a bunch of crap.  Talented athletes make a team win, not the coach.  Sure the coach can contribute to bad play calling but in the end it all comes down to the players on the field.

Take Arizona for example, they are LOADED with talent yet at the end of the year if they keep it up Dennis Green is gone.  His fault?  I don't think so.  And do you think the cubs hiring a new coach is going to help?  No way!!!

BUT, BUT, BUT...... I think recruiting those players is the coaches responsibility, so I guess some of it does come back to the coach.  Like CURF 2 years ago, sure everyone says Conwell was a good coach, but he couldn't recruit players worth a crap, hence the 0-20 2 year run.

Either way, my PICKS:

LC vs. AU - I hope AU wins but LC pulls it out by 10 or less
MAC vs. Eureka - Eureka showing a little spark lately, but MAC wins 21-10
BU vs. CUW - CUW wins, but won't be as easy as you think
CUC vs. Greenville - Wow, Greenville is just getting better, they are just too much for CUC, especially with the starting QB out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on October 31, 2006, 12:21:05 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on October 31, 2006, 02:56:26 AM
Hello Gomer and all others who continue to cry about the Muskies, First, Coach "Z" is the best coach in this conference along with the CUW coach, they have proven themselves time and time again. Enough said on that. Second, who would be so foolish to leave any valuables in any locker room. You subject yourself to have your things stolen. These times are not like the 60/70;s when I was a kid, hell people stole then, so why why why would you leave a valuable in any locker room, LESSON LEARNED, and trust me if Z knew of this the player/s would be kicked off the team. As for personal fouls show a game where one was not made. it is a rarity for any team not to have one or 2. Lakeland and its program is clean cut, they do make mistakes which has cost them some games but dirty. cheap etc, they are NOT. And for the knucklehead who said the pain train is lame, sounds like he kicked your azz during the game.  And you got to be kidding me the BEST coach to leave Lakeland for CUC, TRUST ME HINES, HYNES WHAT EVER WAS THE WORST COACH I HAVE EVER MET OR SEEN COACH,  Other than Coach "Z" the BEST was Randy Awery who is at Saginaw Valley State University. You got to be kidding Hynes, I think my son ryan said it best in front of Hynes and his teamates 4 yrs ago, were only as good as our weakest linkd and he is finally leaving!!!!!! End of that discusion, he was right because then Z came along and LOOK where Lakeland is at the top of there program Where Randy Awery left it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have a great day

you make me laugh. first, Hynes is what started Lakeland in the right direction so no, he was not a bad coach, at least in the recruiting aspect. And people leave their crap out in their locker room because it is their locker room. If the guys off the Lakeland did try taking their stuff, you would think they would be smart enough not to leave it in the locker room they were in...but then again they are from Lakeland, I don't think much is expected. Two, the pain train is lame and I am sure many will agree because only Lakeland fans think it is something cool with their dumb train whistles...haha. I don't come on here and cry, I defend a team I like as well as everyone else on here. No one on here is idle and likes every team, everyone has their favorite. And you are insane to say that LC is not a dirty team and that they are clean cut...get real Maddogg.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 31, 2006, 12:40:50 PM
Sorry Marcus, but Awrey is the one who got their program off in the right direction.  Hynes may have been the coordinator when Awrey was there, but didn't fair so well as their head coach..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ftbll4life on October 31, 2006, 02:42:29 PM
Quote from: maddog8 on October 31, 2006, 02:56:26 AM
Second, who would be so foolish to leave any valuables in any locker room. You subject yourself to have your things stolen. These times are not like the 60/70;s when I was a kid, hell people stole then, so why why why would you leave a valuable in any locker room, LESSON LEARNED, and trust me if Z knew of this the player/s would be kicked off the team.

That is a great point it's a locker room, where your things should be safe. Now I know that isn't always true. What are you going to do with your things when you're at practice, you going to take them with you out to practice? I know I'm not going to; they are going to stay in my locker. So don't try and put the blame on the basketball players for their stuff getting taking.

Pat it did happen, you can talk to the people at Lakeland all you want about what happen. They don't know they weren't their. Put I will believe the basketball players that it happen to.

Also the almighty and power coach "Z" did celebrate, with #50, after the QB from CUC went down.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on October 31, 2006, 03:46:41 PM
As an ol' IBFCer, who doesn't post much, take this for what you feel it's worth:

I think that dead horse has been beaten enough.  The AD's of each school conferred with each other and what was seen as the proper action was taken.  As for the celebrating, I did see the excitement of the player and the coach soon after the play, but I interpereted it as reaction to a big sack on a fourth and long.  Were the LC players dirty, I feel they were chippy, but the refs made a point of keeping it under control, the best they could, with the use of the flag (the personal fouls that is.  The holds and blocks in the back I couldn't see from my vantage point). 

As for the fans, fans will be fans.  So what they have something they have that ties them with their team and a way they support them.  You don't hear people complaining about the FSU tomohawk chop is, the flashing of the USC "V" with two fingers or the WE ARE MARSHALL chants.  Support your team, focus on the game and enjoy it.

Let's get back to stats, good solid play and just talk good football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adeer2284 on October 31, 2006, 03:55:26 PM
This LC theft/dirty play topic is irrelevant. Whether it happened or didn't happen, it means nothing now because its over.  If you don't want your ipod or cell phone stolen, dont bring it to practice or lock it up while its unattended.  END OF STORY.  LC won the game easily; they dominated from start to finish. That should be the real story from that game, since everyone from CUC believes the team has improved.  CUC still has a long way to go to compete for any type of conference title.  I'm tired of getting on here and reading so much that is away from conference football.  No one seems to be talking about how CUW has run through our weak D3 conference and has a legitimate chance of bringing a tiny bit of respect for a conference that doesn't deserve much.  Let's start talking more football and less crap about who did this, and who did that.  Re-read what Pat has posted, I don't think he's that crazy. 


My predictions for week 10:

CUW beats BU, but not without a fight from BU. The difference in the score will depend on whether CUW wants to cruise into the playoffs with their bye week after this game or play hard for that 10-0 season. 35-10

Greenville rolls over CUC even after the heartbreaker last week. Number 1 pass defense might be hard for CUC with or without Weeks and teams rush the ball well against the Cougars 3-3 defense. 45-7

Eureka was much more improved than I expected, but with Mac playing LC as tough as they did, I'm leaning much more towards Mac.  They have their QB back from his injury and that has opened up things for Ereg. 27-14, Mac

LC is a solid all-around team as always, but the young AU team has made some strides as the season has progress.LC isn't quite the team they were a year ago, but their skill guys are still talented along with a bunch of physical offensive and defensive linemen.  AU wants this game bad after the 58-0 spanking they took a year ago in WI.   I like my AU spartans at home in a close one, 14-13

Best of luck to all the teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on October 31, 2006, 04:16:23 PM
True adeer! 

What team is CUW projected to get in the first round this year?  Any idea Pat?  Will they be an Eastern or Southern team?  I am still a little behind on how the match-ups are created, but my conjecture is the rotation will most likely be from one of those two regions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 31, 2006, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: lem4094 on October 31, 2006, 04:16:23 PM
True adeer! 

What team is CUW projected to get in the first round this year?  Any idea Pat?  Will they be an Eastern or Southern team?  I am still a little behind on how the match-ups are created, but my conjecture is the rotation will most likely be from one of those two regions.

May be North Central again for a classic rematch.  More than likely someone out of the CCIW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 31, 2006, 06:23:09 PM
since mostly everyone has seen everyone one play in ur eyes who is 1st team all conference and the MVPS at each postion???????????also MAC SUCKS lol...larry wait until u see that *** on beth
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on October 31, 2006, 06:46:55 PM
Gotta say Gillespie and Reder are my first team RB's (although I never saw Ereg- Mac play)

QB would be Wilk.  Throws a nice ball and is a smart player.  Very patient in his checks.

WR- White-LC, Taylor-GC, Sturgel- CUC and Collier-CUW all ran solid routes and have great hands.  I do also include the YAC except for the recievers who only made one reception in the game and was nonexistant the rest of the time.  I feel you need to be a reciever who can consistantly get open and make the plays so I did eliminate some of the 'burners' in this category.

K-Senniac- GC

All Defensive and OL positions, well, I only watched those as units and not anyone in particular so I have no real say on those.  Also, these are only based on the teams I watched play this year and nothing else.  I may have missed one of the other players' big games here or there, so that is my disclaimer.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BoBo on October 31, 2006, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 30, 2006, 05:30:58 PM
Yeah, I was going to comment on how Whitewater beat them by like 70 because they played dirty so didn't take their starters out and ran up the score.



FYI - WW had all their starters out of the game by halftime (some of them early in the 2nd quarter).  They were running up to score with their 2nd and 3rd team in the 3rd quarter and the 4th teamers in the 4th quarter.  I thought it was time to bring in an impartial jury member into the discussion.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: RubberBiscut on October 31, 2006, 07:46:50 PM
I am new to this. I decided to register because I just want some loose ends tied up.

First, did both AD's from concordia and lakeland talk about what happen, and if so does that not prove that it took place!

Second, Looking at concordiaW I dont think they cruised along in the conf. Greenville and concordiaC both played them well and Greenville gave them a big scare. Do you think ConcordiaW has a chance at winning a playoff game, after struggling against ConcordiaC and greenville?

Third, compaired to the past years of concordiaC being horrible, do you all agree that the team had improved. not as much as greenville or ben, but still has improved.

fourth, Is the QB from concordia a threat to be an all american when he comes back for his last year next year and how will concordia, ben, and Eurika do in the confrences they will be in next year. same old same old or a new begginging?

Lastly, This is for 7400 west, the locker rooms at concordiaC are locked and the bball locker room is not the same as the away football locker room and should have been locked to avoid this from happening at all. I would like to hear why this happen. If you leave food out in the kitchen you are asking for the dog to jump on the table and eat it. You dont get mad at the dog you get mad at yourself.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on October 31, 2006, 07:54:10 PM
Quote from: RubberBiscut on October 31, 2006, 07:46:50 PM
I am new to this. I decided to register because I just want some loose ends tied up.

First, did both AD's from concordia and lakeland talk about what happen, and if so does that not prove that it took place!


I was only assuming, since Pat had talked to the Asst. AD from Lakeland.  It would never had been replied to, by a school official, if the ADs hadn't touched base.  My point is the proper reps. of the schools were notified and they were, and ultimately are responsible, for taking care of that type of business, not football post rooms.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 31, 2006, 08:41:21 PM
RubberBiscut, that analogy of the dog jumping on the kitchen counter made me literally laugh out loud.

Sorry I just posted for no real reason

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adeer2284 on October 31, 2006, 08:55:50 PM
I can't tell you I see eye to eye with your all conference votes, lem4094.  I do agree with you that Wilks is the 1st team QB considering that he leads the conference in passing yards, and total offense, but he has thrown quite a few interceptions and has the over most athletic recieving core in the conference.  But I was very impressed with GC QB Kegel who is very accurate, consistant, and has a better passing rating and less interceptions than Wilks.  Weeks from CUC and McGary from AU also are deserving of some conference recognition.  

I'm not sure I give Reder the go for all-conference just because the teams hes got his majority of his carries against weren't the best teams in the conference.  Although, if you saw him against CUC he had an amazing performance and definitely has a future as a great running back for AU.  The all-conference backs are easily Gillespie, who early in the season was considered for offensive player of the year, and Ereg who was previously the all-conference running back and just got off to a really slow start this season.  Both average over 30 yards more per game then any other back in the league.  

Stienmetz is the a no-brainer for 1st team all conference punt returner.  Along with Langston, Harriel, Pirollo in their prospective positions.  The rest of the defensive starters are really a toss up to me.  I really didn't get a great chance to observe all the defesive positions in the league so I'm not going to guess.  

Recieving core is very difficult to pick this year.  Multiple athletic recivers have proved worthy, but since I am a defensive back and have played/covered/watched film against all of them, I know who is legit and who isn't.  The obvious 2 deserving of 1st team all-conference consideration are Taylor from GC and White from LC.  Both have put up great numbers compared to last years' reciever of the year Joe Folliard, from AU.  I think the 3rd spot has to go to Collier from CUW.  Yes, hes fourth in both yards per game and receptions per game, but you can't deny his 10 recieving touchdowns this year.  That stat alone puts him over the edge for me.

Some offensive lineman I believe are deserving is Renfro from GC.  I think that is his name, excuse me if I am wrong.  I just remember he was 6'4" and nearly 300lbs and moved very well.  I also think Nic Koch from AU has been an excellent offensive lineman deserving all-conference honors.  I thought the entire CUW offensive line was impressive but I couldn't pick just one outstanding lineman from the team.  I don't mean any disrespect by that statement.  They were all very good but I can't remember any specific players. Maybe someone could help me out with their names. I have yet to see LC offensive lineman play so I can't make any judgement quite yet of their OL, but I'm sure theres some great talent from there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 31, 2006, 09:14:15 PM
EyesInTheSky,
I hear ya.... I have had many coaches over my time as a player all showing class, we just felt SOME actions were being questioned not all...I am a former player that has seen very few incidents of classlessness and a few came from Mac, a few from LC and a few from EC.........I had previously cited some classless acts,....This post is to show that all teams do play hard and go THROUGH the whistle and sometimes it appears that acts are classless....On one occassion I have seen LC be classless..as I stated before a player from LC felt the need to drop a knee into an AU LB...That is one of the only ones I can think of....EC had a few last year one of which they tried to tackle AU's Qb on the last play last year as AU was taking a knee....Their d-tackle and their LB then proceeded to flip off the AU sideline....that is true classlessness.......This shows that most every team has done something so lets move on
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fball fan on October 31, 2006, 09:37:54 PM
Fatal,
Thats amazing how you view the end of that AU Eureka game. Lets go to the second to last play of the game when Aurora was up 20 plus and instead of taking a knee with 1 min. left, Aurora ran playaction and threw the ball 40 yards to the endzone. That is what set off the Eureka players, and that is an act of no class. If Eureka turns the corner in the future and starts winning some games, i gurantee they will never pull that BullS**t.
And as for Eureka's LB, actually he yelled directly at your coach, "you have no class." ironic you should use that as an incident for Eureka as classless.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 01, 2006, 12:18:07 AM
I was on the sideline and it to was our team not our coach EC couldnt handle the loss.....Trying to intentionally hurt someone....No matter what happens is classless.......would you have prefered we should have went for it again...the way EC played e probably would have scored
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 01, 2006, 07:16:27 AM
Quote from: BoBo on October 31, 2006, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 30, 2006, 05:30:58 PM
Yeah, I was going to comment on how Whitewater beat them by like 70 because they played dirty so didn't take their starters out and ran up the score.



FYI - WW had all their starters out of the game by halftime (some of them early in the 2nd quarter).  They were running up to score with their 2nd and 3rd team in the 3rd quarter and the 4th teamers in the 4th quarter.  I thought it was time to bring in an impartial jury member into the discussion.

   Maddog, is he correct?  3rd and 4th stringers?  I can`t believe Lakeland
   got man-handled by scrubs.  No offense to the "scrubs" as they
   un-knowingly helped the "Pain-train" ( a Maddog-ism) gain experience so they could limp
    through the IBC.
    The Football gods work in mysterious ways. 

     
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 01, 2006, 11:41:09 AM
Something to look at.
   This is the old........SOS, now it`s called the NCAA Quality 0f Wins Index.
                     
                         RANKED in D-3
     (1) CU-W      14th
     (2) GC           69th
     (3) LC           82nd
     (4) Aurora     105th
    (5) Mac          183rd
    (6) CU-C         204th
    (7) Eureka      217 th
 
   

   

 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 01, 2006, 12:09:50 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on October 31, 2006, 06:23:09 PM
since mostly everyone has seen everyone one play in ur eyes who is 1st team all conference and the MVPS at each postion???????????also MAC SUCKS lol...larry wait until u see that *** on beth

All-Conference
QB- Wilk       (CUW)     Dom Kegal (GC)
RB- Gillipsie  (CUW)
WR-White (LC)   Bryson Taylor (GC)
OL- CUW or GC   Greenville's Terrence Poe dominated again this year
DL- CUW, GC, LC

Steinmeitz (CUW) for returner
Kyle Sanniac (GC) Kicker

Don't really know about the secondary's.   

Defensive Player of the Year:   J.R. Harriel  (GC)
Offensive Player of the Year:  Gillipsie (CUW)





Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: red99 on November 01, 2006, 01:23:41 PM
If CUW wins out, will they be able to host a play-off game? Or will they be faced with the same situation Carthage was in a couple of years ago, due to an under-sized and functional press box, forcing the Red Men to play on the road in the play-offs? If that is the case, I would expect a new press box for the 2007 season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on November 01, 2006, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 01, 2006, 11:41:09 AM
Something to look at.
   This is the old........SOS, now it`s called the NCAA Quality 0f Wins Index.
                     
                         RANKED in D-3
     (1) CU-W      14th
     (2) GC           69th
     (3) LC           82nd
     (4) Aurora     105th
    (5) Mac          183rd
    (6) CU-C         204th
    (7) Eureka      217 th
 
   

   

 

Where is this from? What about BU?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 01, 2006, 03:31:34 PM
TBaggins:   
    Good eye!   I missed BU completely. My Bad.
   They are #153.
   It`s posted on the ......"Quality of Wins", D-3 Football web-site.
    Left hand column.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on November 01, 2006, 03:50:31 PM
How is Sanniac from GC first team, what abou the Conference Champs Falcon Kicker?
Roberts from CUW 1st team Punter.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 01, 2006, 04:15:52 PM
Congrats to  Scott Gehrke (CUW) and J.R Harriel (GC) for IBC
Defensive Players of the Week.

J.R Harriel had 8 solo tackles and 9 assisted tackles.  He had 2.5 tackles totaling in –8 yards, and 1 sack for –3 yards. 

J.R 's 3rd Defensive Player of the Week this season.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 01, 2006, 07:49:56 PM
Maddog (or whom else it concerns), here are MY choices for best in conference..I base my opinion on who I have seen, so this is without Ben picks...

POY- I said all along aaron gillespie, but I will have to say Mike steinmetz now, he makes amazing plays any way he can...AG is on his hip in second
D POY- I am actually gonna say....damn it...#25 from greenville...

QB- Weeks from CUC he played a hell of a game at least agaisnt CUW
Backs- A. Gillespie back of year thats a given, MAC's runner just started getting the #s he and AG are the only backs with the right #s
OLine-John Mask CUW lineman of year, the other CUW guard, AU had a decent left tackle
WR-this one seems to be the given, Bryson, collier, white
Dline-Langston, Johnson LC, Allen or kloskie CUW cant give all the line to CUW so pick one, The GC dline is a good one
Linebackers-#25 GC (you know ur good when ppl call you by ur # not ur name) Gerhke, Wagner LC
DBs- Carpenter CUW (most underrated player in conference), Hutchins, Schram LC, Deer AU
ST- Steinmetz CUW, Roberts punting and kicker who cares..
I know a lot of CUW players but thats what i see everyweek...I guess you can call these my nominations maddog
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on November 01, 2006, 10:04:44 PM
if you are going to give your conference predictions, give them for all positions. they are all important. KICKER
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 02, 2006, 03:17:04 AM
I realize there is one game left but that won't make a difference in the "ALL MADDOG TEAM", on the OL note I do not know all names so I will list a position and team, you'll know who you are

"THE ALL MADDOG TEAM" OFFENSE TODAY AND DEFENSE MONDAY....

                                    THE ALL MADDOG TEAM

QB, WILK  (LC) 1ST TEAM
QB, WEEKS (CUC) AND LEWIS (CUW) TIED

WR, WHITE (LC)
WR, COLLIER (CUW)
WR, BRYSON (GC)

RB, GILLIPSIE (CUW)
RB, EREG (MAC)
RB, STEINMEITZ (CUW)

OL, HOLMS (LC)
OL, PHAL (LC)
OL, MASK (CUW)
OL, GREENVILLE CENTER
OL, AURORA TACKLE

KR, BAKER (MAC),
KR, HARRNER (AU)

PR, HEINEMEYER (LC)

K, SENNIAC (GC)

P, HUGHES (LC) AND ROBERTS (CUW) TOSS UP

POY ON OFFENSE "ARRON GILLIPSIE"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: RubberBiscut on November 02, 2006, 04:15:10 AM
maddog.

where is the love for the punter from CUC!
TEPEN
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 02, 2006, 05:54:34 AM
Rubber-Biscut, he will be on my secind team as punter, he was good this yr but Hughs and Roberts had better stats but he is very deserving for the 1st spot just not this yr. I'll give second unit tomorrow and Defense next week.

As for Player of the year for the Conference "well lets just say in the last 3 weeks this player proved he is clearly the best in this conference, not to say others did not have a chance but this player in particular stood out like a sore thumb! He also represents the TRUE meaning of MADDOG. Distructive, physical, athletic mean but good looking like me and a born LEADER.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 02, 2006, 08:07:16 AM
  Gomers picks for the saturday, Nov 4th.

    (1) BU vs CU-W: BU may be thinking about a win saturday, but CU-W will
         march to another "W".  Lose to BU, I don`t think so.
     (2)  CU-C vs Greenville:  Will GC be ready to play after last weeks tough
       loss?  Can CU-C, who is having a nice season, not so much in "W`s"
      but in progress, pull off an up-set? You think? 
       Not going to happen.
      (3)  Lakeland vs Aurora:  Lakeland is not the "Pain train" of old. They
       are just a  mediocre team living on past glories.
        Aurora can win this game. LC goes in the tank.
      (4) Mac vs Eureka: Two bottom feeders going no where. These teams
      are playing for the rights to the "Toilet Bowl" trophy. 
       Mac wins this one cause they have a very good RB and a senior QB,
       even though they lack an "O" line.
                   
         
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 02, 2006, 08:13:25 AM
  Maddog:  You got a "ghost" writer on your staff?

  You said in part,"........................but good looking like me and a born LEADER."       
   
    To that i say,  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on November 02, 2006, 08:56:42 AM
maddog,
how is sanniac the frst team kicker. there are other kickers with 15 more pts than him? also, roberts beats any other punter in the conference with his accuracy and power. and, steinmetz has to be FIRST team PR, he is the best. sanniac is not the best kicker in the conference!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on November 02, 2006, 03:59:48 PM
fbfan,

cuw has the best offense, so the kicker gets to kick 5 pats a game. More opportunities to show you can kick does not mean you are the best kicker.

kicking % Sanniac is the best stats wise.

Maddog,

Stienmietz is offensive player of the year, i include his returns skills as offense.

Before the season i was the only one giving props to  Gillispie. Everybody was on Mac's RB jock. Now that it is all most the post season i realize Gillispie is good but a product of his oline. he ran through open holes, didn't do much on his own. Mac's RB or Eureka's RB are the 2 best RBs in the conference.

Mask (cuw) best OL. #84 wr (cuw) is the best WR . He doesn't get the touches that  Taylor (GC) or White (LC) but he is does it all.

QB- Lewis from cuw is first. Accurate, few INTs and is dual threat. I give a toss up with Wilk (LC) too many ints and Kegel (GC) too many fumbles for 2nd team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Bondtec on November 02, 2006, 04:20:01 PM
I agree with FBfan01 that if someone is going to put together their all-conference picks they should include special teams.  As for the best kicker, that is hard to say.  Kicking has so many variables (holder, snapper, coach's preference) so I think it is hard to compare, but the only thing we can look at is the stats.  So here goes.  According to the IBC website the kicking breaks down like this:

Field Goals
Mai 3-9(33.3%) Ranked #3 in conference
Sanniec 5-9 (55.6%) Ranked #1 in conference

PAT
Sanniec 17-20 (85.0%) Ranked #1 in conference
Mai 32-40 (80.0%)  Ranked #3 in Conference

Scoring
Mai 41 pts 4.6 pts/G Ranked #1 in conference
CU-W has played in 9 games so far
Sanniec 32 pts 4.0 pts/G Ranked #2 in conference
GC has played in 8 games so far

I don't know where FBfan01 got his stats to say that there are kickers with 15 more points than Sanniec.

Kickoffs
Sanniec 54.5 yard average
Mai 54.1 yard average
This stat is hard to judge because onside kicks, sky kicks, and squib kicks can ruin the averages.

Awards
Mai Special Teams Player of the Week for Week 2
   3-3 on PAT and 1-2 on FG
Sanniec Special Teams Player of the Week for Week 6
   2/2 on FG from the 28 and 27 yardlines, sending the game into overtime with his last.  He was also 2/2 on extra points.

This is the excerpt from the IBC website.  Also, Sanniec's field goals against Eureka allowed GC to win 26-20.  Mai doesn't have any late game heroics so to speak, but that is because his team was always winning.

Lastly, which kicker is more important to their team.  This is the best way to break the tie.  Mai has 41 pts of his teams 319 total points (12.8%). Sanniec has 32 pts of his teams 158 total (20.3%)  Statistical, Sanniec has been more important to his teams total offense.  Also, to note, Mai has twice as many PAT attempts than Sanniec.

These two men are very good kickers, but as the stats will tell you Sanniec is the better of the two.  This is just stats and nothing more.  I had the opportunity to see all the kickers in the conference, and these two are the ones that stand out, but Sanniec, on paper, is the better kicker. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 02, 2006, 04:55:48 PM
  Bondtec:
      Stats are always good.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 02, 2006, 07:08:01 PM
wow, that is some research...i was on gillespies back also before the season...but i see him every week and i think he is the best...should of seen him against north central...plus he has NFL toughness...undersized great heart...that said steinmetz is another player that does amazing things...he is 160 pounds, returns kicks, runs inside and out, catches passes...and is basically the full back on iso plays...amazing guy who should at least be on scholarship somewhere
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 02, 2006, 08:45:55 PM
Sotha sil-  Not to nit pick and I havent even seen those running backs from CUW, but NFL toughness?  2 things i say to that.  If Dan Morgan, Ray Lewis, or Urlacher hit him, your telling me he would want to do it again?? If he is mentally sane, then he would walk away, if he was conscious.  Another thing, NFL toughness to me is Terrell Owens gettin tackled by his collar by Roy Williams and his ankle/leg snapping in 345 different directions, then just walking on it immediately after.  That is what I see as NFL toughness.  And again, maybe he is that tough, its possible, but that is what I judge people on when I think of NFL toughness.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 02, 2006, 08:54:28 PM
its fair enough...but what i mean is...AG would run at Ray Lewis full speed and not flinch...he would do what ever he could to block, run over or around him...he would do whatever it took to win and never ever flinch...all im saying is he is NFL tough...can take any beating and will give out all he has...the kid never quits...hes amazing basically...not saying he is a NFL player but he has NFL toughness for sure
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 02, 2006, 09:36:33 PM
Yeah I understand better now, makes perfect sense.
I guess Ill make predictions since I've been alternating weeks for whatever reason.

AU-LC: Dont care

CUC-GC: GC 34, CUC 12

EC-MC: MC 26, EC 16

BU-CUW: BU 21, CUW 19
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 02, 2006, 11:01:14 PM
Quote from: bufan on November 02, 2006, 09:36:33 PM
BU-CUW: BU 21, CUW 19

Please Tell Me You're not serious....BU has a snowball's chance in hell to win this game, dont get me wrong they've improved but BU will not......WILL NOT.......win this game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 02, 2006, 11:38:33 PM
Last regular season post for me.....



Cougs Will Win!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 02, 2006, 11:51:21 PM
CUW wins ????-0...defense shows...collier, steinemtz and siolka have big days if offense shows..

LCvs AU- white catches 3 tds in easy win..but score remains decent

GC wins 28-7..weeks throws for a bunch of yards and picks but has a rushing td

ec vs mac- macs rb rushese like 75 times for 300 yds like any other time they play a team thats weak...mac wins #2

making predictions are fun...even though i have no clue what im talkin about
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: HOW IT IS on November 02, 2006, 11:52:53 PM
Just to let everyone know, MACMURRAY JUST FIRED ALL THE FOOTBALL STAFF AND THE BASEBALL STAFF BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO MANAGE FUNDS OVER HERE, SORRY TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE THIS COLLEGE IS FREAKING WRONG AND WILL BE SHUT DONW IN A YEAR.

AND THATS HOW IT IS
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: RubberBiscut on November 03, 2006, 02:39:11 AM
Quote from: HOW IT IS on November 02, 2006, 11:52:53 PM
Just to let everyone know, MACMURRAY JUST FIRED ALL THE FOOTBALL STAFF AND THE BASEBALL STAFF BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO MANAGE FUNDS OVER HERE, SORRY TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE THIS COLLEGE IS FREAKING WRONG AND WILL BE SHUT DONW IN A YEAR.

AND THATS HOW IT IS

Is this true, I need some infor. this sounds very juicy! who will coach the last game!

7400west- were you at I thought you would have something to say about my dog comment a few days ago!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 03, 2006, 04:10:42 AM
I will come out next week with the Defense, but i know everyone is dying to hear my player of the year, Now I realize everyone will also think where is this dog coming from with this pick and you know who I have been promoting all year so this should be no surprise. This individual needs NO explanation because he has proven himself worthy year after year. He is a very dominating force on the Defense and has made his team what it is, no question there. My player of the year for the IBFC is..............................J.R. Harriel, LB Greenville College.

Great job son you deserve the "ALL MADDOG AWARD/ Conference Player of the Year for the IBFC"

You played like a MADDOG and therefore deserve the award, not to say Bobby Langston was not worthy, just you stole the show the last 3 games which put you over the hump. Bobby Langston--(CUW) Defensive player of the year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 03, 2006, 01:05:46 PM
 For The Record:
    Coaching situation at MacMurray:
           (2) coaches, Football and Baseball will serve the remainder of their
   appointments this fall and will NOT be re-hired.
     
    Full story in the Jacksonville Journal-Courier newspaper.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 03, 2006, 04:45:02 PM
Good luck to everyone tomarrow.  There should be some good games around the IBFC. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 04, 2006, 11:08:54 AM
Final Perdictions:

AU def LC
CUW def BU
Mac def EC
GC def CUC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SCARED KITTY on November 04, 2006, 02:31:29 PM
Half Time

LC 7
AU 7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SCARED KITTY on November 04, 2006, 03:40:47 PM
End of game

LC 20
AU 25
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 04, 2006, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: SCARED KITTY on November 04, 2006, 03:40:47 PM
End of game

LC 20
AU 25

What else is there to say other than what SCARED KITTY already said.......AU comes out with the W, what a great game......Nice Job Spartans
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 04, 2006, 05:24:35 PM
Quote from: SCARED KITTY on November 04, 2006, 03:40:47 PM
End of game

LC 20
AU 25

  Maddog:  Your "Pain-Train" took a hit.  Looks like AU administered the
   PAIN! 
   Like i said awhile back, LC is done.
   Can`t wait for the excuses  as to the why`s and should-a, could-a.
   Great job................AU!!
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 04, 2006, 05:38:37 PM
where's the other scores?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 04, 2006, 05:44:36 PM
CUW 28, BU 0...all i know is BU's defense gave up 2 scores and the others were off of special teams errors by the Beagles
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 04, 2006, 06:08:59 PM
Quote from: bufan on November 04, 2006, 05:44:36 PM
CUW 28, BU 0...all i know is BU's defense gave up 2 scores and the others were off of special teams errors by the Beagles

This right here tells me BU is getting better, games against BU used to be blowouts and now they're getting better.....Much improved
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 04, 2006, 06:13:27 PM
Take nothing away from LC they are a great team. Maddog your all Maddog team should have included AU's Fullback whose play and tenacity helped  AU's win over LC.

PS: Maddog AU 26 says "Your the Man" and to your son he wishes Nothing but the best.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 04, 2006, 07:14:06 PM
Just incase no one has seen the scores

Mac 48, EC 30
GC 41, CUC 7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: RubberBiscut on November 04, 2006, 07:26:07 PM
I am happy AU beat LC! what a great season and i hope CUW does well!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 04, 2006, 08:18:11 PM
play of the day....tom roberts boots a 81 yard punt..that had the ball been on the one inch line..would have been 100 yrds....most amazing thing i have ever seen...unhuman play
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: illinihscoach05 on November 04, 2006, 09:28:58 PM
Mac made a good move to save their program.  And yes after viewing them today versus a pathetic Eureka team, not only do they need an O-line (short-fat-and slow doesn't cut it-hs teams have better lines than these clowns) but they need a complete overhaul on defense!  Eureka scores 30 on you - GO HOME!!!  You stink!  Bring back BOB FREY - he won there and will win again if given the chance!  Whoever wrote the junk above about Mac closing down - get a life! Are Carlton and Tesfa your buddies or something?  When you inherit a program which is winning and you "turn it around" the other way, BYE BYE!  Can all of your O-line starters and overhaul your defense!  BOB FREY IS THE ANSWER!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 04, 2006, 09:58:30 PM
as the score shows, it was a rough game for CUC. GC came to play and scored on an offensive turnover and capitalized on another. Sucks when CUC's starting QB and Center are out of the game but no excuses.

Another thing, cancel out LC's coach and CUW's coach getting Coach of the Year. GC's coach is an amazing coach and showed much class during and after the game. I was out on the field (with the other fans) and GC's coach went over to CUC's huddle and addressed them with a great message. He said to be committed to the program and compared them with GC and told them how CUC has improved. True class.

As for GC's players, they also played with class, very good team and as a viewer you could see what their program is really about.

Congrats to AU, hope you handed LC their asses, they deserve anything they got.

KEEP UP THE HARD WORK CUC!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: HOW IT IS on November 04, 2006, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: illinihscoach05 on November 04, 2006, 09:28:58 PM
Mac made a good move to save their program.  And yes after viewing them today versus a pathetic Eureka team, not only do they need an O-line (short-fat-and slow doesn't cut it-hs teams have better lines than these clowns) but they need a complete overhaul on defense!  Eureka scores 30 on you - GO HOME!!!  You stink!  Bring back BOB FREY - he won there and will win again if given the chance!  Whoever wrote the junk above about Mac closing down - get a life! Are Carlton and Tesfa your buddies or something?  When you inherit a program which is winning and you "turn it around" the other way, BYE BYE!  Can all of your O-line starters and overhaul your defense!  BOB FREY IS THE ANSWER!
See I like this guy because he supports a coach such as frey, ya frey was great, ya he won back to back conference titles. But did you also know he lowered the academic standards to let some of his "prize" athletes in. Lets review some of them Steve Ballinger is in prison and a few others that graduated with criminal justice degrees cannot pursue that caree because of there history with being arrested. The football house that was caught with weed and counterfitting money, But you must have known that, Because frey is the best coach ever. The fact of the matter is frey recruited low life scum that were only good at playing football and nothing else. COLLEGE IS FOR GETTING A DEGREE AND GETTING READY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, VERY LITTLE ATHLETES GO ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS AT THE D-III LEVEL. FREY WAS A BULLY AND A ASS AT THAT ALSO.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2006, 07:42:43 AM
   Coach Frey burned to many bridges when he left Mac for Tri-State.
     Doubtful if he will return to Mac, IMO. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: hoggie4life on November 05, 2006, 07:41:50 PM
It is about time that Mac gets a new program. It was going down hill as soon as coach Rogers left. He should have been the head coach. The coaches there now play favorities and don't follow through with rules. Watching the games from the stands this season you could tell that the coaches don't care. I don't blame the players for the recored this year. I blame the coaching staff. I just hope that Mac can get their program up again at least their getting rid of the coaches thats a major start!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 05, 2006, 09:47:28 PM
I guess a 10-0 record doesnt get you any where, huh?  How much hate is their for IBC? apparently a lot.  A 3 loss Linfield team and 2 loss Ithica team, coming off of losses both have just enough votes to stay at 24 and 25.  Very interesting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 06, 2006, 12:32:30 AM
Alot of hate because....oh yeah, we are the weakest conference in D-III football, they do take that into consideration hence the 5-3 Linfield team being ranked 24th.

CUW wouldn't be 10-0 in a majority of the other conferences, so it comes as no surprise to me that they didn't crack the top 25 again.  Now if CUW beat every team in the IBC by 50 every game, then maybe they are in the top 25 mix, but they had some close games with teams from the "weakest" conference in D-III (CUC, Greenville) so of course they didn't make the final ranking.

Shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.  Now all CUW has to do is prove that their 10-0 means something against the powerhouse team they will face in the first round.  Who will it be anyhow?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 06, 2006, 12:54:20 AM
It aint hate, and while you're not the worst conference in d3, objectively you've got to admit to being in the bottom five.

FWIW, I'd put CUW at 21-22, but I don't have a vote. ::) ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 06, 2006, 01:54:42 AM
anyone else unable to log on for awile! I sure was! did i get sent to my room!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2006, 02:15:26 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 06, 2006, 09:22:02 AM
 Here`s an interestimg stat.
    Guess who (in the IBC) is ranked in the "Top 100 rushers in Div-3?"
     A. Gillespie, CU-W: He`s ranked #16.
     P.  Ereg, MacMurray: He`s ranked #41
     Nobody else!  Not in the Top 100 anyway.

   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 06, 2006, 10:12:32 AM
Baseman, i see your point and i understand the perception voters have of the IBC.  But CUW was ranked 26th last week with 49 votes i believe, the receive two more votes up to 51 and the two teams that lost their 3rd and 2nd games of the season are 24th and 25th?  It appears like a conscious attempt to not put an IBC team in the top 25.  I get the impression that maybe they dont want to give CUW the respect they deserve. And thats what the rankings mean, they are a measuring stick of respect.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 06, 2006, 10:19:41 AM
Quote from: bufan on November 06, 2006, 10:12:32 AM
It appears like a conscious attempt to not put an IBC team in the top 25.  I get the impression that maybe they dont want to give CUW the respect they deserve. And thats what the rankings mean, they are a measuring stick of respect.

I seriously doubt there is a grand conspiracy to keep the IBC out of the top 25.  CUW is going to the playoffs.  Win a playoff game and all of the respect and ranking will be there.  You have to admit, the IBC's record in the playoffs is dismal.  I was impressed by CUW this year.  I think they are a good team.  Now, can they win a playoff game that will probably be at home?   Here's their chance to make a statement for themselves and the conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 06, 2006, 10:27:19 AM
CardinalAlum, your absolutely right and i purposely didnt use the word conspiracy because that wasnt quite my intention of what i said.  But yeah, a playoff win will change that a little bit.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lil sparty on November 06, 2006, 10:57:32 AM
Twisted2 and Da1 - it was easy to take shots at the squad earlier, but where are you now that they have won 4 straight?  I have heard of fair weather fans, but you guys may be the first fair weather haters i have ever known.  I know you guys wanna bring some love to the squad!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 06, 2006, 12:29:07 PM
Congrats to AU pulling off a big win this weekend it was a big turn around from last seasons drubbing. 

It's not a conspiracy to keep CUW out the top 25, this is a weak conference, but not the worst.  Do I agree they shouldn't be in the top 25?  No.  All bias aside I don't care what conference a team comes from when they are 5-3 ahead of a 10-0 team.  Sure the IBFC is weak, but CUW beat some quality out of conference opponents as well, one of which was ranked when they played.  Look at the poll that actually matters the AFCA poll voted on by coaches.  CUW was ranked 18th when they were 9-0 so they should jump at least two spots.  There is some respect.  Now pull out a W in the first round of the playoffs and things will be much better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NuTS on November 06, 2006, 01:57:33 PM
If you have questions about this poll - go check out Don Hansen's DIII poll.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on November 06, 2006, 02:54:31 PM
lil sparty,
I speak the truth.  Just cause the Spartans have one 4 in a row doesn't change the fact that they are still a below average D3 team.  If you think differently than you have not been around D3 football very long.  To be in the middle of the pack in this league translates into not very good! .  And I say middle of the pack because at this point there is CUW and then everyone else (CUC and EC are bottom feeders).  Look at the combined record of the teams you have beat the last four games.  I'll save you the trouble (11-28).  It kills me to see the once mighty Spartans program where it is right now.  Are they getting better, the answer is yes!!  Are they good, the answer is no!!   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 06, 2006, 02:59:24 PM
I would have to agree. PLying against the old AU was something else.  They were a great team with some great players not too long ago.  Now they are very pedestrian.  They have pulled out a couple good wins, but look like a highschool team compaired to teams of years past.  As do many of the teams in this confernence.  However, AU is well coached and they do things right.  This allows them to to beat a team like LC who they may not match up with. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on November 06, 2006, 03:11:36 PM
sorry about all the bold print.  I was a member of the AU team that won 3 straight IBC titles (21-0) in league play.  We were 1-8 in non-conference games, but we played the best of the best.  Every team we played was either 1st or 2nd in their league.  The CCIW, Pioneer, MIAC, and an NAIA school.  Tough comp.  We never lost by more than 10 (except Valpo).  Not like Rockford or Cornell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 06, 2006, 03:16:14 PM
This AU team is good, just because they're not the team of old, just because they don't have Kip Daniels or Bryon Megli, But they are good, I would know I seen play darn near every game, and really the only wrinkle in the season was CUW and Coe, and I saw great things from this team, but to tear down AU after a great victory like that show some love....They have made great strides all season......I venture to say Spartans win their conference next year (cuz I think the conf switch) 2007 the spartans win conf.....Congrats to CUW for winning this year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 06, 2006, 03:19:50 PM
I congradulated them multiple times for that last win, I am giving them love, and they have looked much better as the season has gone on.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_7_seven on November 06, 2006, 06:49:00 PM
To the Bob Frey basher:
I want to start this off with stating that Frey and I did not see eye to eye with the way he punished or ran his team.  I being one of them did not always like the way I was always treated.  I felt I was being singled out and made an exapmle of.  As I have grown older I realized that I was just a punk college kid that did some stupid this.  Frey ruled with tough love.  His way or the highway.  Let me tell you I am a better person because of that.  Also all those football players that were @ that house that had its problems were all Hensley recruits like myself.  When the whole school turned their backs on those kids he did not.  They made a very were stupid choice and they were punished for it. ( I thought it was funny because if you knew them you would realize it was college kids acting stupid and making bad decisions)  Any coach will tell you that he has had kids that have disappointed and made bad decisions.  I can list all the bad choices FSU players have made over the years.  Frey installed two things that Mac did not have in its program before he was the head coach accountability and discipline.  I may be wrong but we had many more 1 year and gone players my first couple years @ Mac before Frey took over.  While I do believe that he burned to many bridges to get the job back they need someone like him as the next head coach.  I beleive the best person for the job is an alumni named Barry Creviston.  Head coach of Routt running through 1a playoffs rigth now. I know it was Frey's poster child but Frank Carter sure did well for himself. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 06, 2006, 07:59:56 PM
Some of you may recall that Carthage in 2004 earned a home playoff game on the field, but could not host due to a totally inadequate pressbox (since corrected).  CUW has obviously earned a home playoff game this year, but talk on the CCIW board is that CUW's pressbox is even worse than Carthage's was then.

IS CUW likely to get aced out of a home game due to inadequate facilities?  Anyone have any knowledge of the situation?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 06, 2006, 09:07:42 PM
da-one

AU is better than anyone thinks. These season they played w/8 seniors a handful of JR. & Soph and 50 Fresh. Inexperience cost them the GRN game (14-7), CUW was to much for everyone and the rest of the Conf. yeilded to a good team with great coaching staff. Coach Duncan has every right to be proud of his team and should be in consideration for Conf. Coach of the year along with a lot of his players that deserve Conf. honors.  One more thing da-one Coach Scott would never talk S--t about any AU Team (past or present) and didn't coach you to do that either. As a matter of fact Coach Scott savered that W against LAKE as much as Coach Duncan did. You might of been part of the team but apparently you never learned about team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: adders75 on November 06, 2006, 10:09:12 PM
Mr. Ypsi just so that you know CUW has apealed to the NCAA to host the game at Wisconsin Lutheran so that we can still have a home game since you are right that our press box is not good enough for the playoffs so there is still a possibility of us having a home game just to put it out there
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on November 06, 2006, 11:02:16 PM
I have said several times that the Spartans are improving.  Are they a "good team" yet?  I still say, not yet.  Should they be proud of what they have done this year and Coach Duncan has done a solid job of coaching.  Finally, no one is talking s--t about the Spartans.  I am giving my opinion.  In my opinion they are a couple Bryon Megli, Kip Daniels type players away from being a good team.  Are they good enough to finish 5-2 in the IBC? Yes.  Does that give you nation recognition?  No, not in this league.  One thing Coach Scott taught me is to always speak your mind, even if it pisses some people off.  Wasn't trying to do that, but if it happens, it happens.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 06, 2006, 11:06:44 PM
why!! and why did you erase what i posted. I did nothing wrong! I dont understand!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2006, 03:13:10 AM
I didn't erase any posts here today.

Re: AFCA -- that poll doesn't count for anything more than ours does. And ours is more accurate, year after year after year. We started this poll because the AFCA poll was so inaccurate.

Hansen isn't a poll, Nuts. You have to have more than one voter to be called a poll. :)

Plus, unlike Hansen, we spell all the teams' names correctly. WOLKES PA? Where is that?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 07, 2006, 07:23:48 AM
   Front page stuff!   Check out the Div-3 site.  Peter Ereg, RB from Mac gets
   some well deserved "ink." 
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 07, 2006, 10:15:39 AM
welcome back 7400West, you were missed. I realized a lot of your posts were erased too and I didn't know what was going on. Hmmm, interesting.There was some guy named Rubber Biscuit on here sort of mocking you and I was shocked not to see a reply by you.HAHA.

Anyways, I think CUW appealing to the NCAA for home field advantage is a good idea and if they get it they will have a better chance at the team they play. Good luck to CUW in the playoffs and I hope they get the IBFC their first win in the playoffs, they deserve it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 07, 2006, 10:42:04 AM
I had a post disappear once....Pat are we gonna see you on ESPN News talking about the matchups?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 07, 2006, 12:53:06 PM
Well it's the end of the season for most, other still have a game left while others wait for selection day.  A wrap up of the IBC season.  Only 1 more year and the IBC is done and over with for good.  2006 IBC Season

MACMURRAY- (2-7 2-5)  With a win this week against Blackburn ends the season on a some what of a high note, but that high note comes from getting kicked in the balls all season. Had talent but different problems lead to a less than desireable season. Next year seems to be up in the air with hiring new coaches and getting players to come back. MAC heading towards wrong direction, but has talent to overcome.

BENEDICTINE- (4-6 3-4)  BU is continuely improving and its great to see. Lost to the Top 3 toughest teams in this conference by somewhat heartbreakers. Loss to GC in OT by 7. Lost to LC by 14 and AU by 8. This offseason if players keep working and if you get the players to come back and recruit some more athletic players BU may be looking for 3rd place perhaps a 2nd place finish in the IBC. 

CUC- (2-8 1-6)  Had high hopes in the beginning of the season as we watched you guys achieve the milestone of upsetting Blackburn. Then 7400West & Baseman fought like cats and dogs who loved the Cougs more! (no offense guys) Seriously though CUC did show some improvement with getting the 2 wins and keeping the CUW game kinda close. Overall CUC learned this season what it needs to do to win. The objective for next season is get that all clicking together.  Play dead then come alive and attack next season. You'll be the CUC Possum's.  Good Luck

AURORA- (5-4 5-2)  Had a really good season for the most part. Just not up to AU expectations which is understandable.  Could have lost total control in the middle of the season but held it together even when nobody else thought you could. 2 games that made your season BU game and LC game.  AU made it happen and begin to play to the potential offense started clicking and that's what it took.  Still one game left against Valpraiso umm good luck!

EUREKA- (0-9 0-7)  Wow... umm and EC still has one game left.  Hey continue to look up and if your not looking up then someone prolly ran you over, but hey it happens. You guys are like the Cleveland Browns. You have talent but you just got to make it work. You had some games this season that were close. Especially against GC I was sweating bullets.  Get to work and make it happen. Try something different. Good Luck

GREENVILLE- (6-3 5-2)  Pound the Rock!! GC came to play this season. The last 2 seasons have built up some respect for GC. Their definetely a front runner for Conference Championship next year.  The AU was a big game for GC wanting to show that last year's games against LC and CUW wasn't a fluke.  CUW was another huge game for GC and the Panthers almost had it. Greenville's Defense is the best in the Conference. They come to work and get the job done.  The offense needs to be able to capitalize when the defense causes a turnover! Alot of people returning for next year I've talked to so that's good. Hardwork this offseason will put GC in 1st in 2007 and that's what they want heading into the SLIAC in 2008. 1 game left for the Panthers at Washington U this Saturday.  Good Luck!!!

CUW - (10-0 7-0)  UNDEFEATED!! It's the best thing a team can do together in a season of any sport. It's hard to do sometimes.  The competition that seems to be no match all of sudden plays 10x better and keeps the game always close.  CUW answered the call all season. First it was North Central and the upset in OT. That's were CUW players and coaches punched their tickets and got on the ride for a perfect season. Close call with Greenville late in the ride but kept on it and ended as being the best. Now their entering the NCAA Playoffs representing CUW and the IBFC.  They have a major oppurtunity. I think they will win the first playoff game for CUW and the IBC and depend on who they play the 2nd Rnd I may pick them to get the 2nd win.  But they had a perfect season and good luck CUW in the Playoffs!!

Good luck to the rest of the IBC teams who have remaining games. Good luck in the offseason.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 07, 2006, 01:18:10 PM

AURORA- (5-4 5-2)  Had a really good season for the most part. Just not up to AU expectations which is understandable.  Could have lost total control in the middle of the season but held it together even when nobody else thought you could. 2 games that made your season BU game and LC game.  AU made it happen and begin to play to the potential offense started clicking and that's what it took.  Still one game left against Valpraiso umm good luck.

FatalImpact, Da One, aufb05:

There is a great word in this quote from TrueCountry... expectations.  AU allumni have extremly high expectations.  We expect AU to win, when they don't we do get upset.  This is a what you want in a program.  This is a tremendous tool for a program.  Look at MAC, BU, CUC, EC, GC, and LC... what are the expectations for these programs?  Not much, how many of their allumni stick with the program?  Not many.  We complain when we won't like the product we see.  I was at the Rockford game and the CUW game.  I didn't like what I saw.  Am I happy they improved?  Hell yes!  I am very proud of the way the Spartans have battled through adversity and have gotten better as the season has progressed.  Do I think they are a good team? No... sorry Spartans, I expect more.  I don't want to listen to 8 seniors this and 50 freshman that... I'm talking about the product on the field.  They are improving.  They are young.  I'm really excited about that, but right now they are not a good team by my standards or, if you ask the coaches, their standards.  Do you think Coach Duncan believes he has a good team right now?  Can they compete with Iowa or wisconson confr. (the con. he coached in prior 2 becoming a Spartan) I don't think so.  I do think he believes they can be a good team if they keep improving and bringing in qaulity talent. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 07, 2006, 01:20:45 PM
REACTIONS??!!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 07, 2006, 01:34:23 PM
I agree with most of your points, and if you ask a coach if he thinks they have a good team, I'm confident he would say yes...A team tied for second in the conference has never really been below third....DOn't get me wrong when they lost those games I was upset, Myself being a former player for AU...but I believe they are a good team....look at the unity and the strides this team showed or made throughout the season...Tru sadi it they could have packed in but they didnt because thats what GOOD teams do...Good teams are resilient and will fight through adversity and injuries they've had this seadon and they did.......the 2006 AU Spartans are a good team and the 2007 Spartans will be even better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on November 07, 2006, 02:54:46 PM
Twisted is right on.  Us AU grads have extremely high expectations for the program we helped build.  To be a second place team in one of the worst leagues in the nation means absolutely nothing.  It doesn't equal a trip to the playoffs, it doesn't give you a national ranking.  All it gives you are if's and we could have's.  From what I saw from the Spartans, they are on the up-swing.  However, the goal for the program should be an undefeated season and an undisputed conference title.  Not a 5-4 with a second place finish.  Those are the expectations that the alumni have for this program.  Is it realistic?  Maybe not.  Is it realistic that Florida State wins the national title every year, no.  But, are those the expectations of the fans and alumni?  Yes.  Sorry, but those are the pressures that the current AU players and coaches have to try and live up to.  Good luck against Valpo.  A win this weekend would be a great way to end the year and start the off-season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 07, 2006, 03:39:07 PM
Calm down AU. You guys act like you were America's Team. I assure you Aurora University would still be standing if you guy's hadn't had those undefeated conference ONLY seasons.  That's alot of expectations for your current little Spartans to have for a season when you 4 (apparently the lost 4 of the 85' Bears) wasn't even able to achieve it. Don't set the goal so high you can't even reach it, allow yourself to build steps to reach the goal.
No comparison to Flordia State is true. If you wanted compare the 99-01 team to someone maybe the Yankees, good all season until it actual counts or maybe Duke in basketball which does great through the season then when it counts they crap out and don't even make it the Final 4.  So calm down a bit. AU does have expectations like I said but not on running off with the NCAA Championship.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 07, 2006, 04:07:36 PM
I am a former AU player myself, and I think the FSU comparision is a little "out there"  AU was good then.....they're good now.......and they will be good in years to come
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 07, 2006, 08:12:34 PM
Pat! I think you erased my post about the Lakeland hiest! But thats okay, it shows alot about what happened!

Tru! I fought like hell about the Cougars, Baseman is an Alum but he spoke about the other teams, I could care less about AU playing BU, I only care who is playing the Cougars.

It must be a conflect for Mr. Coleman, He has to hate every team equally!

It must also be a conflect for falconfb, he has two teams that he is close to! But he as all the reason to be!

Also, Pat! why did you erase my posts! I am sure other(Marcus,ect.) would like to know along with me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2006, 08:24:11 PM
I've made my points on this already and I am not going to rehash. If I have to remove posts or posters I have no problem doing so.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 07, 2006, 09:23:06 PM
you never said why.
thats all!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 07, 2006, 10:04:06 PM
Patrick Coleman!!!! Are you gonna be on ESPN News again...garsh..its a simple question...ps dont give me negative karma points my mom is already mad at me
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 07, 2006, 10:05:28 PM
Yes, he is.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 07, 2006, 10:23:05 PM
He's not going to give a reason why 7400, we just have to deal with it I guess...
[quote
FatalImpact, Da One, aufb05:

There is a great word in this quote from TrueCountry... expectations.  AU allumni have extremly high expectations.  We expect AU to win, when they don't we do get upset.  This is a what you want in a program.  This is a tremendous tool for a program.  Look at MAC, BU, CUC, EC, GC, and LC... what are the expectations for these programs?  Not much, how many of their allumni stick with the program?  Not many.   
[/quote]

I actually do have a reaction to this because you really have no idea what the alumni for other schools do and you don't know what the expectations are in the other schools. You are an alumni (with one L not two) of Aurora not MAC, BU, CUC, EC, GC, or LC. And for the record the only school I am really arguing for is CUC which most likely everyone knows. Now, with Coach Pries as the head coach, A LOT of alumni are back into the program and like what they see and yes, CUC now does have very high expectations for their program. And honestly, I don't think a bunch of whining alumni help a team do better. :'(

FACE!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 07, 2006, 10:25:41 PM
damn, i have -10 karma points...what is going on? what exactly are these "points"? please explain pat so i have a better understanding. thank you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2006, 10:29:03 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on November 07, 2006, 10:04:06 PM
Patrick Coleman!!!! Are you gonna be on ESPN News again...garsh..its a simple question...ps dont give me negative karma points my mom is already mad at me

The question is so simple that the answer was put on the front page nearly a week ago. It's a good idea to read the front page on occasion.

Karma is explained in the FAQ, which is linked from the bottom of every one of my posts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 07, 2006, 10:30:21 PM
MarcusEllwood- Once you reach 200 posts you get Karma Power, where you can dish out + and -  Karma towards everybody except yourself (for obvious reasons).
Usually (and I say usually very loosely), people will give you a - point when they don't agree with something you posted.  For example,  if you were to say Aufb05,  I think the Spartans are really awful.  Aufb05 is not going to agree with you and would be inclined to give you a - point.  On the flipside, if you were to say, "Hey I think Aurora is really improving and a good program."  He might want to "commend" you for that post and give you a + point.    
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 07, 2006, 10:31:28 PM
Ahh, Pat beat me to the punch!  Hehe,  he must be a faster typer.  Pat, I hope you are doing well and look forward to talking with you as the Playoffs grow closer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 07, 2006, 10:42:37 PM
pat...u have gotten power hungry...i remember playing football in the backyard as children...now u only talk online....i have to admit how, you are a meany poo poo head....I am a student that only reads the post...do forgive for not having the time to dig deep into the d3 site...i respect your work but dont have the time bebe...ps... the word at CUW is it would be odd if CUW lost a host bet...they are looking to have their game at Wisconsin Lutheran...Going back to NCC would be unfair..but NCAA has their own way of doing things so its not certain here at CUW
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2006, 10:51:24 PM
Nobody asked you to dig deep. Just visit the front page of the Web site that hosts this message board. Usually important things are posted there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 08, 2006, 12:45:46 AM
Thanks for the info Jaybird, Pat beat you to the punch but you saved me some time by explaining it (i know pat, you are most likely busy). So, anyways...damn...-10, I realized that I am not liked by some...oh well. If Tru has "Karma Power" I would hope he gave me ++++ for my comment toward GC earlier on this board. HAHA, no biggie though.

CUW should get home field advantage, that would be crap if the NCAA made them play at their opponents field, its not the teams fault they have a bad press box. Thats just my opinion though so who cares. ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2006, 12:49:14 AM
It's not the NCAA's fault if the press box doesn't have room for press, officials and the NCAA's official, either.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2006, 12:49:45 AM
Remember, this is the NCAA's event, and it has the right to conduct it as it sees fit.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 08, 2006, 01:13:36 AM
So sit on the top of the stands, what is the ncaa? royalty!!!!! Make it work, that is what I say! It is straight bull if they play anywhere but at home!!

AND THE WHOLE KARMA THING its bull too because, every team outside of your school will be against you, the only way to have good karma is to kiss the behind of the other posters, I WILL NEVER DO THAT. RUBBERBISKUT MIGHT!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Superfoot Wallace on November 08, 2006, 01:18:34 AM
Quote from: 7400West on November 08, 2006, 01:13:36 AM
what is the ncaa? royalty!!!!!

Ummmm...  pretty much.

Puck over and out!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2006, 01:58:13 AM
Quote from: 7400West on November 08, 2006, 01:13:36 AM
So sit on the top of the stands, what is the ncaa? royalty!!!!! Make it work, that is what I say! It is straight bull if they play anywhere but at home!!

AND THE WHOLE KARMA THING its bull too because, every team outside of your school will be against you, the only way to have good karma is to kiss the behind of the other posters, I WILL NEVER DO THAT. RUBBERBISKUT MIGHT!!!!

Maybe just not shouting would work. Amazing that many many people seem to have positive karma and you are at minus-15 as of this writing.

When you spew negativity it tends to come back at you.

The NCAA isn't going to put this game in a location where it can't be broadcast and covered by the media. They've certainly set the precedent last year with Carthage. Should've been a wakeup call to anyone with playoff aspirations.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 08, 2006, 03:32:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2006, 01:58:13 AM



The NCAA isn't going to put this game in a location where it can't be broadcast and covered by the media. They've certainly set the precedent last year with Carthage. Should've been a wakeup call to anyone with playoff aspirations.

Pat my good friend, I agree! Sham on CUW for not getting the job done!(building a press box)

I have a great Idea!!! CUW should play at CUC, we have a huge press box, sometimes when it is cold out and the soccer team is playing I wonder if they could fit the whole crowd of people in there! we have a nice field aswell as stated by much of the IBC posters!!! Plus, I would get to watch the game!!! Should be a good one, regardless!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: RubberBiscut on November 08, 2006, 03:36:58 AM
Quote from: 7400West on November 08, 2006, 03:32:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2006, 01:58:13 AM



The NCAA isn't going to put this game in a location where it can't be broadcast and covered by the media. They've certainly set the precedent last year with Carthage. Should've been a wakeup call to anyone with playoff aspirations.

Pat my good friend, I agree! Sham on CUW for not getting the job done!(building a press box)

I have a great Idea!!! CUW should play at CUC, we have a huge press box, sometimes when it is cold out and the soccer team is playing I wonder if they could fit the whole crowd of people in there! we have a nice field aswell as stated by much of the IBC posters!!! Plus, I would get to watch the game!!! Should be a good one, regardless!

I agree, I was dumb of CUW to let their team down like that!! I would give 7400west a positive point on this post, but not many others!!!
He, or she is just ranting!!!, and Marcus, you are awful! just kidding, he might give me a negative karma if he could!!!
has anyone seen click, the movie with adam sandler!! it is a funny funny movie, Like 74900west, ecept we cant rewind to see the posts he had stricken from the record!!!! ahahaha na. na na na. na. na.!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 08, 2006, 09:53:11 AM
Marcus and Fatal~

Fatal~
We were that good.  25 game winning streaks with the IBFC didn't happen before and hasn't happened again.  An overall record of 27-1 with in the IBFC.  The best team that you played on lost as many IBFC games in a season then I did in my career.  We lost non-con. games to CCIW champs IWU 7-6 and Big Blue 14-12.  That's a little different then getting run by ALMA.  After we were done Coach Scott said "now the bar has been set." Fatal... I LOVE THE SPARTANS.  I know you and I love you.  Your brother is a great player.  You have a great family and I'm glad you chose to be a Spartan but understand this, 1998-2001, we were that good. 

Marcus~
I don't whine.  I don't make excuses.  I don't complain.  I do make fun of CUC fans.  I do giggle at CUC players.  I find it amusing that you believe the new coach will win.  I took very little enjoyment in beating ya'll 76-0 or 66-0.  It was not fun and I was bored.

High expectations for CUC=3 wins

NECK!!!

p.s.- The IBFC top-to-bottom was better back then.  2006 CUW could play with and beat anyone of the following teams: MAC (98-02), CUW (98-00) BU (98-99) and AU (98-01), but they could also get beat by any of these teams.  MAC had great teams (Carter, Lee, Budda), CUW had great teams, BU even had a couple great teams.  Gardner, Pat Ryne, Verdone... yeah they could all play.  We beat them all ;)


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 08, 2006, 10:16:39 AM
Quote from: Twisted2 on November 08, 2006, 09:53:11 AM
Marcus and Fatal~

Fatal~
We were that good.  25 game winning streaks with the IBFC didn't happen before and hasn't happened again.  An overall record of 27-1 with in the IBFC.  The best team that you played on lost as many IBFC games in a season then I did in my career.  We lost non-con. games to CCIW champs IWU 7-6 and Big Blue 14-12.  That's a little different then getting run by ALMA.  After we were done Coach Scott said "now the bar has been set." Fatal... I LOVE THE SPARTANS.  I know you and I love you.  Your brother is a great player.  You have a great family and I'm glad you chose to be a Spartan but understand this, 1998-2001, we were that good. 



Thanx man, That winning tradition is why I chose Aurora in the first place..And It has gotten nothing but better.....IMO......, and I love u too man.......anyway....I know you see where I'm coming from...It's not so much that I don't think certain teams then and now...I think more of the competition has become almost equal....True they may not be as good as the teams on that 25-1 run but I think in light of new recruits and new facilities I believe the competition is better, thus the conference gets more competitive....for example CUW this went 10-0 and congratse to them, but they did play a lot of close games (CUC and GC) so that says something about this conference, and even LC last year was a great team as was AU in 2004 so I'm just trying to say that yeah we haven't gone 25-1 over these last couple of seasons but I still think that AU is one of the greatest teams in the IBFC........Based on the fact they have never really left the top two or three while all the other teams go from bad to good and bad again AU is consitently in the top tier of this conference and if there is one year of this conference left (I think) I say AU wins it, much like CUW won it this year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 08, 2006, 10:17:34 AM
Thanx for the props on my bro too
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on November 08, 2006, 10:42:03 AM
Fatal,
If we (AU) want to be considered a good team, we can't use the IBC as our measuring stick.  If you look at CUW this year, everyone talks about the wins over NC and Simpson.  Those wins against teams from top leagues carry more weight than running the table in the IBC.  I don't agree that the competition in the league has leveled out.  I think that many of the IBC are not as competative as they use to be.  You don't the All-American type players that you saw 2 to 8 years ago.  Back then everyone (even CUC had a rediculous kicker) had at least a few of those type players.  Recruiting has become tougher.  From an AU perspective, they have raised the admissions requirement but have done nothing to improve the facilities.  I know it is comming, but nothing yet.  So now they are trying to recruit the same kids as NC and Augie without anything visable to show that they are on the same level.  That is tough for the coaching staff to overcome.  BU has improved facilities, but the lack of a consistent coaching staff has hinderd the development of their program.  Mac, EC, and Greenville have it tough because they have poor facilities and a smaller recruiting base (not being close to a city).  CUC being a Missouri Synod Lutheran school makes it tough to recruit because of the religous expectations of the student-athletes.  CUW ans Lakeland have to recruit against the WAIC schools who are cheaper, bigger, and have a ton of tradition and name reccognition.

The FSU comparison was a little over the top.  Being an AU guy you have to understand where I an comming from.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 08, 2006, 10:44:29 AM
Quote from: Twisted2 on November 08, 2006, 09:53:11 AM
Marcus and Fatal~

Fatal~
We were that good.  25 game winning streaks with the IBFC didn't happen before and hasn't happened again.  An overall record of 27-1 with in the IBFC.  The best team that you played on lost as many IBFC games in a season then I did in my career.  We lost non-con. games to CCIW champs IWU 7-6 and Big Blue 14-12.  That's a little different then getting run by ALMA.  After we were done Coach Scott said "now the bar has been set." Fatal... I LOVE THE SPARTANS.  I know you and I love you.  Your brother is a great player.  You have a great family and I'm glad you chose to be a Spartan but understand this, 1998-2001, we were that good. 

Marcus~
I don't whine.  I don't make excuses.  I don't complain.  I do make fun of CUC fans.  I do giggle at CUC players.  I find it amusing that you believe the new coach will win.  I took very little enjoyment in beating ya'll 76-0 or 66-0.  It was not fun and I was bored.

High expectations for CUC=3 wins

NECK!!!

p.s.- The IBFC top-to-bottom was better back then.  2006 CUW could play with and beat anyone of the following teams: MAC (98-02), CUW (98-00) BU (98-99) and AU (98-01), but they could also get beat by any of these teams.  MAC had great teams (Carter, Lee, Budda), CUW had great teams, BU even had a couple great teams.  Gardner, Pat Ryne, Verdone... yeah they could all play.  We beat them all ;)




haha, thats cool man, laugh all you want. You are probably the one to give me two more - karma and thats even better. You laugh at CUC and CUC players, thats wrong man. Players are players and no matter what, they are playing for the love of the game at the D3 level and I would give you - karma points for saying that but I am not a piece of **** who sits at my comp all day reading every post for hours upon hours and making posts every chance i get. I better be quiet now or else my karma points are going to be worse than 7400's. Grow up and get a life.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 08, 2006, 10:45:49 AM
You make a lot of sense Da One, good post....I give you +1 imaginary karma point. Congrats....but seriously, good post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on November 08, 2006, 10:48:35 AM
who cares about all this other talk congrats to CUW make those rings fat....

LETS HEAR ABOUT ALL CONFERENCE PICKS BECAUSE THATS WHAT TIME IT IS NOW not his giving who a BJ lol

FOR MAC.....
#9 has my ALL CONFERENCE PICK and LB OF THE YEAR
#22 for MAC 1st team all conference but not back of there thanks to the O LINE

everyother team i dont know anything about so look tell me who u guys think in the IBFC who is all conference MAD PUPPY where ur all MAD DAWG team i want to see that 2 buddy.........................wall street # 9 ooooooooo myyyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 08, 2006, 12:27:23 PM
2 Things have come out here today from AU.  1st the 98-01 Aurora Spartan Team seems to the old Spartans to be in comparison to the 2006 Texas Longhorn's, 85' Bears, and the 72' Dolphins. 

If you had to pick between the 98-01 Spartans and a Hurricane named Sparty?  How bout the 98-01 Spartans and all of God's Heavenly Angels?

2nd. Alot of Ass-Grabbin is going with the "love you's" let's cool it a bit, coming off a little fruity. 


Speaking of Stadiums and poor facility's. GC was offered a brand new state of the art field, stands, press boxes, professional painting for the field, came up to around a 3.5 million dollar facility.   The only problem was this field was going to be bought by Budweiser Community Program.  The scoreboard was going to have Budweiser logo's and that's it.  GC Board unamiously shot down the proposal.  That kinda sucks.  No alcohol would have been sold or anything like (town is dry anyway) just the Budweiser logo's.  This was around 5 years ago I think when the meetin actual happened.  Just thought that was kinda of crazy but I can also see where GC is coming from being a Christian school and I respect the decision.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 08, 2006, 01:21:11 PM
Press boxes and facilitie are not the responsibility and/or "driven by" the NCAA.  The finger should be pointed at individual schools and how much time/effort/money etc.  is going to be invested into it.  You can't go blaming the NCAA for not being able to host a playoff game.
Concordia-WI should look at their neighbors to the South in Carthage.  Did Carthage whine about not being able to host?  Perhaps in the early going, but I give Carthage credit for "biting the bullet", taking the Bull by the horns and winning their game on the road.
As a commentator, I feel that every school should have reasonable accomodations.  This doesn't mean you have to be a "Cadillac or BMW", but at least have a "Common Car" that gets the job done. 
Look at Benedictine.  I can recall a few years back having to bring extra phone lines (50 feet worth) to be able to hook up to the nearest jack.  Now the Eagles have a very nice facility.

On the Karma issue.  Take a look at the CCIW Board.  We tend to get into some pretty heated discussions with a few guys from Wheaton/NC/Carthage/and Elmhurst.  Do we have - 30 Karma?  No.  We appreciate each other's input and don't go taking and/or giving sucker punches to each other or their schools.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 08, 2006, 01:57:53 PM
TrueCountry~

99' Spartans 56
Hurricane named Sparty -7

99-01 CUC 3   Spartans 182

GC with Budweiser, EC with talent, LC with class,  AU without Budweiser,  CUC and winning records, CUW without talent, and BU without fumbles... can anyone find a common quality in these statements?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 08, 2006, 01:58:41 PM
P.S.  I'm gay because I love a teamate.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 08, 2006, 02:03:03 PM
I dont beleive in Karma! I beleive in Jesus! and he says "I love you" to all!!!

CUW messed up and now they will pay for it!! Concordias are not really impressing me latley!!!!
But at least i am Catholic!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 08, 2006, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: Twisted2 on November 08, 2006, 01:58:41 PM
P.S.  I'm gay because I love a teamate.

Yeah tru geez

Anyway we'll agree....to disagree.......I think tru is just mad cuz we stopped talkin aboutGC for a couple of posts
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 08, 2006, 03:39:10 PM
  Talking about "classy" Press Boxes.................The one at MacMurray
   looks like a card board box with holes cut in it for the PA announcer to see
   out of.  Really tacky! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2006, 03:42:19 PM
Well, and if MacMurray makes the playoffs again, you can be sure it won't get a home game. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 08, 2006, 04:16:10 PM
Pat,

Maybe it serves better as a tree stand for Deer season??  ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on November 08, 2006, 04:40:05 PM
QuoteTalking about "classy" Press Boxes.................The one at MacMurray
looks like a card board box with holes cut in it for the PA announcer to see
out of.  Really tacky! 

Hey now Gomer, its A LOT better than the old one..   ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 08, 2006, 05:02:10 PM
One last thing on the pressbox issue(s),  I really feel for the Seniors and members of these teams that can't host a playoff game, due to lack of accomodations.  What a downer for a team that worked so hard to "earn" a playoff home game, and then have that opportunity go by the boards.
I can understand High Schools not having adequate press boxes, but at the College/University level  ???  I think with all the money and donorship capabilities/opportunities, I don't see how you can't have your pressbox well equipped.
Look at North Park, a team/school that has been struggling in football for many years, they still were able to build their new Helwig Center, which is a beautiful state-of-the art facility.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on November 08, 2006, 05:12:20 PM
QuoteLook at North Park, a team/school that has been struggling in football for many years, they still were able to build their new Helwig Center, which is a beautiful state-of-the art facility.

Wasn't all, or at least a very large majority, of the funds for that complex donated by Mike Holmgren?  At Mac, donations that size are used for art galleries and music buildings..   :-\
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 08, 2006, 05:40:24 PM
Mac-5-seven, I believe you are right (not 100% sure) because Mike Holmgren's 3 Daughters are NPU Alums.  Your point, compliments my point that many times schools are willing/not willing to invest $$ in programs. 
I am not one to say where or how the donation(s) should be put to use, but you can't go back later and complain then, when the NCAA says your not accomodated enough.
For example, In the 10 year plan at Elmhurst College, the plan is to move the football field 2 blocks north, adjacent to the RR Tracks, and build a brand new Football Stadium with adjacent Parking Garage.  Obviously we need a major donor for this to happen.  Right now all donorship is going towards to the 2 new Residence Halls (and other areas non-sport) being built.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 08, 2006, 08:58:50 PM
Jaybird, you are right about schools investing money into their programs. the funny thing is, CUW always has a good program so you think something would be done about that. I just have respect for the team and i was only giving my opinion about how it would suck for them to have to play at their opponents house because of that. Last time I checked, opinions were okay, but maybe not on this board. Since you know much about elmhurst Jay, why are they making a new field, the one you guys have is nice, they should just build around it. And elmhurst plays carthage right??? if they do, have you ever seen the MLB from carthage, #50 Mike Pelkowski? He is a former hs teammate of mine and i was just wondering.

all this nuthuggin' on AU is making me sick....HAHA. here come some more negative karma points my way.

Also, TRU, i know where GC stands on the budweiser thing being a christian school and i think it was smart in some ways. CUC also turned down BUD sponsors when they asked CUC to just put a tap in their student union and they were going to pay the school a hefty sum...CUC turned that down and also turned down banners they wanted to put up around the field...however, i think they are dumb for that because at football events, the alumni have a freakin beer tent!!! so i don't know what the deal is. IS greenville a dry community because i swear last weekend i saw 3 dudes walking down the side walk with cases of keystone light... eyes might have been playin tricks on me
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 08, 2006, 09:54:47 PM
CUW actually has some concept computer art of what their new stadium will look like...they are looking to build a competition football/soccer stadium with competition track..the field is going to be sports turf...a real baseball and softball fields...they are also rebuilding the bluff and have completed most of that...and they are building a new dorm..which looks freaking amazing...So, they are doing something but it just hasnt been finished yet...Also, CUW added mens and womens hockey...plus they are looking into developing D1 sports...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 08, 2006, 11:14:21 PM
Marcus Ellwood-- I am actually a member of Elmhurst's Alumni Cabinet, so after all tuition $$'s I guess I am somewhat a VIP now.  I think of VIP as V Very I Important P Provider (as in they always ask me for donations!  ;) )

I too can't understand why schools with successful (any sport) teams have trouble sometimes getting funds.  I would think winning would open up a lot of eyes and make people/businesses more willing to get involved.  On the flipside, it is MONEY and money has a strange effect on people.  I have seen marriages, businesses, relationships, etc. all tarnished or burned up because of Money.
Mike Pelkowski,  I remember calling his name on the football field on the air a few times.  He was a great defensemen!  Yes, Carthage is our arch rival and play them annually.  Elmhurst/Carthage is a good rivalry dating back to the 1930's.
"Why are they making a new field?"  Which field Marcus?  The only building right now is a new Residence Hall on the SW corner of campus where the old Softball Field used to be. 
The 10-year plan that I saw at one of our Cabinet Meetings, was for the current Langhorst Field to become the Men's/Women's Soccer Field, and the school to build a new Football Stadium 2 blocks north by the CNW RR Tracks.
If you want my opinion,  I don't think we could expect Elmhurst Football to be playing in a new home site in at least 10 years, more like 10-15.
Also, I like Langhorst Field's home side of the Stadium.  I like that the historic Goebel Hall (original Gymnasium) and Lehmann Hall (administration) act as a backdrop for the Field.  My only suggestion and what I would like to see, is somewhat "arenaize"  (is that a word?)  the field.  Enclose the field so you feel like you at an "Arena" and the FB game is the main event.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 08, 2006, 11:16:33 PM
Mequon, WI is a very elegant, very "upper class" part of Milwaukee.  I can recall playing Soccer as a little boy against Mequon United Soccer Club and seeing huge homes surrounding our Tournament Field.
I can't see why CUW doesn't build a Stadium that could compliment the City of Mequon.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 08, 2006, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on November 08, 2006, 08:58:50 PM
all this nuthuggin' on AU is making me sick....HAHA. here come some more negative karma points my way.


For comments like that you definitely deserve them
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 08, 2006, 11:25:32 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 08, 2006, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on November 08, 2006, 08:58:50 PM
all this nuthuggin' on AU is making me sick....HAHA. here come some more negative karma points my way.


For comments like that you definitely deserve them

i apologize for that comment FATAL, why i did it, i dont know. So really, I do apologize...I have been looking at other boards and this is the one board that is kind of ridiculous...and that comment doesn't help. you are an alumn that loves their college and that is understandable...but there will be arguements and opinions and you will like them!!!

Jaybird, I will comment on your comments tomorrow...later!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 09, 2006, 02:14:45 AM
Quote from: 79jaybird on November 08, 2006, 05:02:10 PM

I can understand High Schools not having adequate press boxes, but at the College/University level  ???  I think with all the money and donorship capabilities/opportunities, I don't see how you can't have your pressbox well equipped.
Look at North Park, a team/school that has been struggling in football for many years, they still were able to build their new Helwig Center, which is a beautiful state-of-the art facility.

I know that my high school has more money then CUC and It is a catholic school! the allumni support the football team alot more then the one's at CUC!!! Win or loose the alum should help cuc asmuch as possible!!!

CUC is not even allowed to have raffles!!!! they are not permitted at the School!!!! Can you believe that!??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 09, 2006, 02:16:31 AM
also just to add I have spent 10 hours of my life posting for all of you and I have loved every min. Just to let all of you know!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2006, 07:39:59 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2006, 03:42:19 PM
Well, and if MacMurray makes the playoffs again, you can be sure it won't get a home game. :)

    "If" is the operative word here.   Instead of "well" ...........WHEN ,would
      have been a better choice.   :D
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2006, 07:49:18 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 08, 2006, 04:16:10 PM
Pat,

Maybe it serves better as a tree stand for Deer season??  ???

   First off it`s to ratty looking. Tree stands are made
   better,  plus there is no hunting allowed in the stadium.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2006, 07:57:13 AM
Quote from: mac_5_seven on November 08, 2006, 04:40:05 PM
QuoteTalking about "classy" Press Boxes.................The one at MacMurray
looks like a card board box with holes cut in it for the PA announcer to see
out of.  Really tacky! 

Hey now Gomer, its A LOT better than the old one..   ;D

  I`ll give you that one. The old one really looked like a tree stand...............
    a home made one. ;D ;D
  I`ve been in the "new" one, I wonder if Mac even pulled a permit for that
   thing?
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2006, 08:02:15 AM
Quote from: mac_5_seven on November 08, 2006, 05:12:20 PM
QuoteLook at North Park, a team/school that has been struggling in football for many years, they still were able to build their new Helwig Center, which is a beautiful state-of-the art facility.

Wasn't all, or at least a very large majority, of the funds for that complex donated by Mike Holmgren?  At Mac, donations that size are used for art galleries and music buildings..   :-\

  You hit the nail right on the head.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2006, 08:43:41 AM
  Gomers picks for this saturday,Nov 11th.
   
   (1) Aurora vs Valparaiso: AU (5-4 Over all) finishes out their season with a win over 1-6 Valparaiso. 
    (2)  Eureka vs U of Chicago: No crystal ball needed here. Eureka gets it`s
    10th straigth loss.
    (3) Greenville vs Wash U: Greenville at 6-3 (over all) plays Wash U (5-4)
     at home.
     GC, has had a solid season so far and beating WU at their house will
     make it even sweeter.  GC in a close win.
    (4)Mac vs Blackburn: Mac at 2-7 (over-all) is running on 2 cylinders.
      They have nothing left in the tank. Never did really.
     Blackburn in the past has given Mac some good games, even though
      they lost but this year will be different.
     Blackburn at 3-6 is the better team  and will send Mac packing with a
    final 2-8 season record.
     
   
       
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 09, 2006, 08:50:11 AM
Alright, I haven't posted for awhile.

To all you AU alum to have nothing else to post but how good you guys were from 98-01 or whatever, uhm yeah, we really don't care.  How about you talk about the present and the future of the schools and not live in the past on every post.

"Yeah man, we were like 27-1 against IBC schools", yeah you talk about how piss poor CUC, Ben, EU are, good job, way to beat those teams then.......how did you do in the playoffs?  Oh yeah, didn't win.  Maybe start bragging how good your team is when you win a playoff game, or better yet, in a conference with some competition.

your 98-01 squads probably would have been .500 in a majority of the other conferences, but congratualations though.

In conclusion........I hope CUW wins their playoff game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 09, 2006, 09:01:13 AM
CUW should just play at Benedictine.  We are the prostitute of Lisle, IL.  We sell to the highest bidder on anything.  Then again NCC is about a 15 minute jog(literally) from BU's campus, so maybe not a great idea.  I hope they win and I hope it does end up at NCC, they beat them their once they can do it again right?  No, Kam Kniss is going to throw for 4 tds.

And I saw someones post about Mike Kemblowski from Carthage=best LB I played against while at BU.  And they had some freak DT named Kalenowski or something like that=better than langston, but not by much

Pat, would you like me to stand in for you on ESPNews?  I can do that if you need a break!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on November 09, 2006, 11:12:04 AM

CUW could have the Packers press box and they wouldn't get a home game. SO what they are 10-0, apparently the people who do the rankings aren't impressed. I'm sure most people outside of the ibfc thinks it was a fluke with them beating north central.

lets run down why they won't/shouldn't get a home game.
pressbox
stands (capacity). away stands are joke
potential ticket sales- are they going to get $3000 people to come at $8 a pop in wisconsin in november
10-0 in a weak conference
not ranked
they won't be the higher seed of whoever they play

Now in this region if they play anyone but Mt Union or Wheaton i think they have a legit shot to win the game. they are big and fast on defense. the run the ball well, don't turn it over. and they can beat you in the air on deep passes and really good PR and KR teams.

But get real, no matter who they play they won't be picked to win by people outside the conference and probably most inside the conference. SO WHY GIVE THEM A HOME GAME!!!!!!

The ncaa wants the playoff system to be fair as far as who gets in the playoffs. At the d3 level they aren't concerned with fair match ups. only ticket sales and paying for teams travel. they are going to give home game to who can sale tickets and keep teams close so they don't have to pay for airflights.

cuw needs more than pressboxes. BUT they have the team makeup that can win on the road.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 09, 2006, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 09, 2006, 08:50:11 AM
Alright, I haven't posted for awhile.

To all you AU alum to have nothing else to post but how good you guys were from 98-01 or whatever, uhm yeah, we really don't care.  How about you talk about the present and the future of the schools and not live in the past on every post.

"Yeah man, we were like 27-1 against IBC schools", yeah you talk about how piss poor CUC, Ben, EU are, good job, way to beat those teams then.......how did you do in the playoffs?  Oh yeah, didn't win.  Maybe start bragging how good your team is when you win a playoff game, or better yet, in a conference with some competition.

your 98-01 squads probably would have been .500 in a majority of the other conferences, but congratualations though.

In conclusion........I hope CUW wins their playoff game.

Didn't you go to or are going to CUC a team that is, with the exception of EC, the weakest of this so called "weak" conference........Don't be mad at AU alums because your team has been "lackluster".....SO what were consistently good, we try our best in non-conf to play tough teams to make us better, CUC on the other hand tries to plays teams they can beat and even that might not even happen.....SO dont hate on us
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 09, 2006, 11:54:04 AM
Also good luck to CUW...get the W
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 09, 2006, 12:17:38 PM
CUW is trying to host a game at Wisconsin Lutheran which is right near CUW...so the press box isnt an issue...The AD said,from what he was told when turning in the bid, he would be shocked if we lost our bid to host
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 09, 2006, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: Genius on November 09, 2006, 11:12:04 AM

But get real, no matter who they play they won't be picked to win by people outside the conference and probably most inside the conference. SO WHY GIVE THEM A HOME GAME!!!!!!

The ncaa wants the playoff system to be fair as far as who gets in the playoffs. At the d3 level they aren't concerned with fair match ups. only ticket sales and paying for teams travel. they are going to give home game to who can sale tickets and keep teams close so they don't have to pay for airflights.

cuw needs more than pressboxes. BUT they have the team makeup that can win on the road.

I think CUW gets the home game and wins because they went 10-0 the deserve it......I do not believe that there is that big of a concern with ticket sales at the first game.....Either way I believe CUW gets the W
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 09, 2006, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 09, 2006, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 09, 2006, 08:50:11 AM
Alright, I haven't posted for awhile.

To all you AU alum to have nothing else to post but how good you guys were from 98-01 or whatever, uhm yeah, we really don't care.  How about you talk about the present and the future of the schools and not live in the past on every post.

"Yeah man, we were like 27-1 against IBC schools", yeah you talk about how piss poor CUC, Ben, EU are, good job, way to beat those teams then.......how did you do in the playoffs?  Oh yeah, didn't win.  Maybe start bragging how good your team is when you win a playoff game, or better yet, in a conference with some competition.

your 98-01 squads probably would have been .500 in a majority of the other conferences, but congratualations though.

In conclusion........I hope CUW wins their playoff game.

Didn't you go to or are going to CUC a team that is, with the exception of EC, the weakest of this so called "weak" conference........Don't be mad at AU alums because your team has been "lackluster".....SO what were consistently good, we try our best in non-conf to play tough teams to make us better, CUC on the other hand tries to plays teams they can beat and even that might not even happen.....SO dont hate on us

AHHHHEMMM, CUC doesn't really play weak non conference games. If you want to call Loras, U of Chicago and Rose Hulman weak then go ahead, I could understand Blackburn being weak...but be serious and do some research before you slap a team in the face seeing as you really have nothing better to do.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 09, 2006, 05:21:59 PM
Sorry I want to clarify something about a post about Kemblowski, he is behind lenny radtke, then him
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 09, 2006, 06:35:30 PM
Concordia-Chicago also played Elmhurst 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on November 09, 2006, 07:04:49 PM
Just to comment on all the AU posts, I have been around all the AU teams from the very beginning of the program that Jim Scott started in '86 (no, I never played for AU), and I must say that it is clear AU is less than a shadow of its former self. The teams of the early 90's and late 90's were great teams, largely because Jim Scott and his staff built a unique program of tough, hard hitting players. Many of those defenses were nationally ranked. My point isn't to put the current AU team down, entirely. I agree with Da One, as a fan it's frustrating and overwhelmingly sad to watch them play these days. They were a force to be reckoned with during the Scott era, now they look like a high school J.V. squad. Again, as a fan it's hard to stomach, because the administration and new staff seems to have destroyed the program.

Some of you guys can talk all you want about how the team is up and coming, etc. etc., and how they beat teams like BU, but give me a break (Fatal), AU looked horrible against BU. That was about as undeserved of a victory as there has ever been in the history of football. The only reason they won is because BU coughed the ball up 5 times. AU was thoroughly dominated in the second half and looked silly (yes, I know a win is a win is a win; however...I was embarassed for AU). The point is--and I'm sorry to all the non AU people who are tired of reading about this--all you current AU cheerleaders need a dose of reality. I'm glad you are all supportive and all still, but you need to get real, just a little bit. The current squad is bringing a tear to the eye of this longtime AU supporter (remember the Indian in the littering commercial? Kind of like that), and I'm sure to the eyes of Scott and his former staff. I'm not blaming the current players, as they seem to give their all, I'm blaming the administration and the new coaching staff. What a shame (complete with sniffles)!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on November 09, 2006, 07:41:30 PM
Oh yeah, forgot to include the teams from 2000-2004 in that list of great AU squads, which further illustrates my point: the harder the fall from grace!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 09, 2006, 08:57:34 PM
T-Bags

Your post was about as lame as it gets and your way out of line trying to imply Coach Scott would ever give credence to your ramblings.  If you don't like the current coaching staff or the AU administration "e" them and tell them all about it. This is not the forum for personal issues.

Finally, trying to pawn yourself off as a Spartan fan, is insulting to AU Coaches (past and present) AU players (past and present) to all the real Spartan fans. I should tell you to go eat S--T and die but my karma points would tank even further.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 09, 2006, 09:11:15 PM
Let me examine T-bags claims the old teams were better, when I contend teams have gotten better.....T and obvious coach scott fan refuses to give credit to coach scott's colleague John Cooper...Currently at BU....which has improved greatly mostly due to Coach Coop's coaching abilities...That was a great game BU has improved greatly...........T calls himself a spartan fan when he is a fairweather fan....True supporters are with their team thick and thin....Apparently you just dont care anymore......This new staff is working great in a mostly Improved IBFC.....In 2004 (I realize that it was a coach scott game ) went blow for blow in a playoff game with a ranked opponent...This year CUW beatss North Central....SO this conf has improved your just not giving any team credit... Trust me I was at the AU football reunion dinner and Coach Scott willingly supports Coach Duncan in everything he does....Let Me repeat that COACH SCOTT WILLINGLY SUPPORTS COACH DUNCAN IN EVERYTHING HE DOES......Coach Duncan is a great coach he understands his players and he is going to be at AU for a very long time.........SO tBaggin.....You are not really an AU supporter at all....AT least when I was conversing with Twisted and Da One they gave credit where credit is due
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 09, 2006, 09:14:10 PM
My CUC remarks were a little outrageous I realize the play tougher teams....But CUC has consistently been a sub-par team year after year.....baseman201 was hatin on AU when AU plays tougher opponents closer and more consistently
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 09, 2006, 11:32:54 PM
QuoteI think CUW gets the home game and wins because they went 10-0 the deserve it

Fatal just because a team went 10-0 doesn't mean they deserve anything.  Now I agree with you I hope they win as well but going 10-0 doesn't automatically give them a win. 

That's true CUC did play Loras and Elmhurst the previous 2 seasons.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 09, 2006, 11:40:33 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 09, 2006, 11:32:54 PM
QuoteI think CUW gets the home game and wins because they went 10-0 the deserve it

Fatal just because a team went 10-0 doesn't mean they deserve anything.  Now I agree with you I hope they win as well but going 10-0 doesn't automatically give them a win. 

That's true CUC did play Loras and Elmhurst the previous 2 seasons.



Let me rephrase they beat NCC and they are a great team....IMO the get the bid  because they are good
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 10, 2006, 12:10:23 AM
Yes, CUC has also played Elmhurst 2 years ago and was once televised on their channel (Channel 6 I believe). Elmhurst and Loras are very very very respectable teams and to add to the table, Loras would wipe their asses with every team in this conference. I am sure U of Chicago would probably beat every team to. I am trying my best not to put this conference down but show that CUC does have respectable opponents for their non-conference games...as someone has agreed already. One day very soon, I even think next season, CUC is going to go .500 or more. Teams are going to take them lightly next season (as usual) and this is what the players eyes will do :o (Pat, the faces....cute and helpful) Anyways, I am out. Later.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on November 10, 2006, 12:45:38 AM
Fatal and aufb,

A few things:


a) first of all, Fatal, good lord, please stop drinking before posting. Your grammar and sentence construction gives me a headache. Seriously, it's terrible.

b) fairweather fan? Yes, I will say that I am indeed a fairweather fan, and that is because I witnessed the dismantling of a proud and strong football tradition. I have absolutely no shame admitting that.

c) regarding Coach Cooper, I give him all the credit in the world for turning BU around, and I think things would be much different if he were running the show at AU. I think BU is actually a better team than AU currently.

d) aufb, point conceded regarding Coach Scott. I have no idea what he thinks about the current state of AU so I can't co-opt his endorsement of my perspective. I humbly remove his name. However, that still doesn't change the fact that a once proud program is crumbling. I hope that changes, I really do. You two can hem and haw all day about how great AU is but I doubt either one of you has been around long enough to have any sufficient basis for comparison between the Scott era and the current era.

e) finally, and this will be my last post on this subject, I'm not brining this up solely to ruffle feathers (remember Fat Pongo?). I just can't sit and listen to everyone go on and on about how great AU is. It's simply disingenuous. AU is under new leadership and it may take a while to build the program up again, but the fact remains that it is currently a far cry from the glory days. Things can change, and I hope they do, but in the meantime all I ask is that you cheerleaders look in the mirror a little bit. You can crow all you want about how great AU is but you only make yourselves appear like the Emperor with no clothes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on November 10, 2006, 12:51:53 AM
Ok, I lied, this will be my last post. I forgot  to add:

e) this conference wasn't always the DIV-III dormat. It was a lot more competitive in the 90's, making the separation between those AU teams and the current even more pronounced.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 10, 2006, 01:50:29 AM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on November 09, 2006, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 09, 2006, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 09, 2006, 08:50:11 AM
Alright, I haven't posted for awhile.

To all you AU alum to have nothing else to post but how good you guys were from 98-01 or whatever, uhm yeah, we really don't care.  How about you talk about the present and the future of the schools and not live in the past on every post.

"Yeah man, we were like 27-1 against IBC schools", yeah you talk about how piss poor CUC, Ben, EU are, good job, way to beat those teams then.......how did you do in the playoffs?  Oh yeah, didn't win.  Maybe start bragging how good your team is when you win a playoff game, or better yet, in a conference with some competition.

your 98-01 squads probably would have been .500 in a majority of the other conferences, but congratualations though.

In conclusion........I hope CUW wins their playoff game.

Didn't you go to or are going to CUC a team that is, with the exception of EC, the weakest of this so called "weak" conference........Don't be mad at AU alums because your team has been "lackluster".....SO what were consistently good, we try our best in non-conf to play tough teams to make us better, CUC on the other hand tries to plays teams they can beat and even that might not even happen.....SO dont hate on us

AHHHHEMMM, CUC doesn't really play weak non conference games. If you want to call Loras, U of Chicago and Rose Hulman weak then go ahead, I could understand Blackburn being weak...but be serious and do some research before you slap a team in the face seeing as you really have nothing better to do.

Just to add to Marcus, CUC has played some monsters in the past. Teams like, Lake Forest, NAIA teams like St. Xiaver, who beat CUC by 70, In the bast, with former Coach BBW, He set up good teams,

"if you want to be the best then you play the best"

AU- you have done nothing to help the cred of the conf in  those years befor!!! No playoff winn with such a "good team" give me a break!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 10, 2006, 02:12:17 AM
7400,
You have probably passed the line of crap talking about AU with the rest of us. For that, they are going to give you - karma because they can't take criticism. Shame Shame. And I forgot about Lake Forest and St. Xavier, nice additions to the list of tough non conference games.

Tbaggins, you make sense to some of us, some of the guys are just dense, especially.....ones.....who.....don't.....know......how......to....properly......end.....a..........sentence.......it.....just.......keeps.......going......and....going. So, your input was read by some and appreciated.

Pat, give me a shout out on ESPN sunday, unfortunately I have to tape it but will watch and will be waiting to hear it.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 10, 2006, 10:05:39 AM
CUC

Dating back to the 1999 football season CUC has a record of 4-52 in the IBFC.  3 of the 4 wins (over the past 8 seasons) have been taken from EC.
Reality, its all around you, grasp it.

This is why AU will always beat the bricks off of CUC:

CUC perspective- Next year we are going to go .500 or more!
AU perspective-  Lets beat VALPO so we don't have to be .500

.500 is glory for CUC
.500 for AU is crap

Keep setting those un-reachable goals CUC... .500   psssssss, please!
Try averaging 1 win per season in the confrence over the next three years, then you'll get some respect.  And when I say some respect, I mean no respect.  Self improvement, self improvement, self improvement!!  If you guys get another win next year Pat may have a reason to give you a "shout out".

Pat Colman,"I believe it will be a Raider romp at the Stagg.  Ohhhhh, hold on, I almost forgot.  Can I give a shout out to my guy Marcus Ellwood?" 

ESPNews guy, "Ahhhhhh sure, what the hell" 

Pat,  "Thanks.  What up Marcus?  Let talk about the resergence that has happened in River FOrest. His CUC has made some TINY improvements over the past two seasons.  They have great facilities and the talent is underwhelming.  If they keep this up in another 10 years they will reach 10, count them 10, Wins in the IBFC."

REACTIONS!!!

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 10, 2006, 10:16:12 AM
Face it people CUC is tanked until it can learn to recruit.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 10, 2006, 11:12:59 AM
Don't you guys think you are being a little hard on Coach Pries?  I mean the man is still in his "infant" stages with CUC,  give the man some slack.  He ended their long losing streak, was able to give the Cougars a shot at more wins since the 90's what more could you ask for in a 1st/2nd year HC?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 10, 2006, 11:25:06 AM
T-Baggin, I didn't know I was being graded on how we wrote on here.....I didn't know it had to be in an essay style format.....Plus I never drink...ask anyone who knows me...Trust me I have been in both programs (duncan and scott)  I saw them at the football reunion and they support each other

If Bu is so much better than AU, then Why O Why did we beat them....And WHY O WHY did we beat LC.....WHY O WHY did they only beat the 3 bottom teams in this conference(MAC, EC and of course CUC)???????????????????????

Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on November 10, 2006, 02:12:17 AM
Tbaggins, you make sense to some of us, some of the guys are just dense, especially.....ones.....who.....don't.....know......how......to....properly......end.....a..........sentence.......it.....just.......keeps.......going......and....going. So, your input was read by some and appreciated.


Again its not an essay I'm writing and if anyone is dense its those that are upset, that even when AU has a troubled year they still come out #2 in the IBFC.

Twisted is right we focus on next week where as CUC is beginnig to be like my CUbs.....Well Welll There's Always Next Year.......ANd then next year they get stompped....FACE REALITY
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 10, 2006, 11:25:52 AM
oh yeah I got one of those sittin on my desk AUFB05
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 10, 2006, 11:52:23 AM
holy crap...slow down twisted and all you AU fans. Don't get all your panties tangled up in a bunch now. Thank you Jaybird for helping those guys face reality. Comparing CUC to AU, you are correct as in every post you make, you somehow find a way to down a program that has been down...congrats. CUC has had a rough past and unless you are around or see what Coach Pries is doing with the program, you should probably just keep your mouth shut. Concordia at one game had 30-40 recruits at the game...CUC doesn't know how to recruit??? No, the past coaches at CUC did not know how to recruit. Don't attack the players old man...that is wrong in the first place. Coach BW, didn't help the program one bit, putting the team in debt from impact sports and horrible recruiting, Coach/now Dean Hynes did a considerable job for the one year he decided to take over. Coach Conwell faced a lot of rough times @ CUC, being rushed into the HC position and then facing illness and not having the "proper" coaching staff to help recruit. Now, Coach Pries who was hired in early January, brought in around 35 recruits with the help of his coaching staff and THEY ALL STAYED!!! Something the past coaches at CUC could not do. Keep throwing jokes around about CUC, they probably love it and laugh about it.

As for the "shout out" thing, it was a joke, loosen up jag. But hey, I am sure that is how the whole thing would go, thanks for the laugh. Now......lets.........read............some..........more..........posts.........about........AU......and..........how...........they..............are............so..........good.............
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 10, 2006, 12:32:54 PM
Marcus,
This all started because CUC gents, such as your self were kicking the AU team around.  We are mad that the CUC fans, such as yourself were doing the kicking.  All we are saying is that if you want to say anything about how bad a team is, first examine who you are a fan of. You were telling us how bad AU is, but CUC is worse, given in a COUPLE of years they MIGHT be better.  All we're saying is that AU has a winning tradition, and is consistently in the top half of the conference year after year.
                                                                                       Sincerely,
                                                                                    Fatal Impact
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 10, 2006, 12:48:00 PM
FATAL,
I have not downed AU since they beat CUC, I have respect for the team and I also have friends on the team as well. If I happened to have come off wrong, then I will apologize but all I have been doing is defending CUC and I know that the team has not been great. I have not once slammed on any of the players from AU nor will I ever about any player because a D3 athlete should be respected whether they are great, good, average or even below average. Maybe it wasn't you who slammed players, I believe it was Twisted but he obviously is involved with AU and doesn't make anything look good doing that. Slam the program for being bad, slam the coaches, slam the administration...whatever....but not the players. CUC WILL be better in years to come and as I have already said even next year.
They only had 7 seniors leave the team, everyone else is returning as far as I know. CUC will be a team to recon with next season and I will stick to my word. Continue the slamming though, like I said, it only helps.

Sincerely,
Marcus J. Ellwood :-*
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 10, 2006, 01:25:41 PM
I wasn't slamming the players, I slammed the program.  The person responsible for slamming was baseman201, he was slamming without any prior knowledge that of which he speaks
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 10, 2006, 02:42:31 PM
Marcus Me friend

This season AU & CUC players were almost equal in the number of FR., Soph, JR & SR, and both were equal w/new coaching staff. The difference is that AU didn't see themselves as a team in transition - - They came, they saw, they complied a 5-2 conference record.  They played football Marcus, CUC didn't. Something broke done for CUC. Maybe it was their expectancy to lose opposed to AU's tradition of winning. You'll have a long winter ahead to think about it but in the end you'll know I'm right.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 10, 2006, 04:05:35 PM
Uhm, I didn't slam any players either.

I was just saying how tired I was of AU alum talking about the past and how good they were 5-6 years ago.  Never did I once slam an AU player or their abilities. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 10, 2006, 04:20:59 PM
You slammed the program....Thats what I meant....You spurned the debate...When u back CUC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 10, 2006, 05:52:37 PM
Frankly I have kind of last track on what you both (Fatal and Marcus) are arguing about.  I know Pries and his Staff are slowing helping CUC turn the corner.  Building a program is not easy and there are many pitfalls before success.  Look at Elmhurst,  I played through some really bad stretches where we won 1-3 games a year.  Now they are about to finish 2006 6-4 which will be there 3rd winning season in 4 years.  The point here is that I think Pries and the Cougars are laying down the foundation and using the right "blueprints". 
Players?  Well obviously success is a product of the players, but you also have to win with the players you have.  Cohesiveness is needed whether you have star players or average players.  Senior Leadership also helps with success on the field and building up perennially strong teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 10, 2006, 06:44:13 PM
We're arguing about people bashing the AU program, for no apparent reason.....It ain't right to bash a program, I had to in order to defend a program being bashed
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 10, 2006, 08:57:20 PM
Nobody should bash anybody's program because every program (well, Mt. Union might be an exception) but every program has had their moments when they were at the top and moments when they are at or near the bottom of their conference.
I had a HS Coach that said you are only as good as your last W.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 10, 2006, 09:24:06 PM
 :) ;) ;D :D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(....love dont hate ppl...we are all going our seperate ways this next season...the rivalries are gonna disappear
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 10, 2006, 09:28:02 PM
Alright, enough people.  Let's talk of the possible CUW opponent.  It will most likely be a rather strong UW-LaCrosse team.  With a week off, do you think they are anticipating this or taking on the CCIW #1 team (either Weaton or North Central)?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 10, 2006, 09:42:54 PM
Lem4094   UW-LaCrosse as a first round opponent for Concordia-WI?  Are you serious?  :o
Most likely Concordia-WI is going to face North Central, Wheaton, Mt. Saint Joseph, or somebody in the Midwest Region.  Have you checked some of the playoff predictions on the various boards?
There is no way, no how that UW LaCrosse is playing Concordia WI  first round.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 10, 2006, 09:55:14 PM
I was playing when CUW play lacrosse...then it was a no way no how they play UW-L...but wait NCAA wants to cut on travel cost moves CUW from mid seed to a bottom seed...NCAA will do what they want...any predictions we make can be on but could be waaaaaay off
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 10, 2006, 10:01:04 PM
79jaybird,

It is a good possibility due to the seeds as well as the way the pairings trys to have the Western teams not have to travel as much.  I placed a question like this in a General forum and received the answer of UW-LaX from a number of people on this site.  It is a solid possibility.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 10, 2006, 10:09:36 PM
sotha,

Sorry to sound redundent, I am a slow typer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 10, 2006, 10:22:16 PM
If tomorrow's games go as expected, I predict a rematch of CUW-NCC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 10, 2006, 10:34:21 PM
Lem4094,  I know about the NCAA wanting to minimize travel to keep costs down, and agree that it's the NCAA and strange things have happened before. (and most likely will happen again.  ;) )
I agree with Mr. Ypsi that all the signs are pointing to a rematch of CUW/NC and possibly (not likely) a CUW/Wheaton game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 10, 2006, 10:41:28 PM
I personally would like to see a CUW/NCC rematch.  Just wondering if there would be any other possibilities then the previously mentioned?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 10, 2006, 10:45:00 PM
There are a lot of possibilities still up in the air.  In the CCIW 3 teams are fighting for (most likely) 2 spots.  All the "what if" scenarios are still valid.  You have Wheaton, North Central, and Augustana with their candles still flickering.
I think Concordia WI would fare better playing Wheaton 1st round as opposed to NC because the Cardinals have already seen what the Falcons have to offer, and they would have "revenge" on their minds.  Revenge and adrenaline are 2 big "ingredients" in a recipe for an upset.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 10, 2006, 11:51:56 PM
yeah I agree, I don't think CUW would fair to well in a rematch with NCC.

Either way, they would be in Mt. Unions bracket, so their quest would end sooner or later.  But hey, make it far enough to get pounded by Mt. Union would be worth it.

Now, I do hope CUW wins a playoff game so I hate to say this but, I think CUW (whoever they play) will get beat by 14+ pts in their opening playoff game.  I hope they prove me wrong but CUW has some good teams in their "projected" bracket.   I was correct last year in saying that Lakeland would get spanked by 25 or more by Augustana, and they did.  CUW would need to play flawless in every single category no matter who they play (NCC or Wheaton).

But like I said, Mt. Union is going to win the whole thing again anyhow so it doesn't matter too much.  But wow, to play Mt. Union and get a chance to see the talent they have would be an amazing experience.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2006, 03:38:01 AM
The NCAA only seeks to minimize travel costs by eliminating air travel whenever possible. Otherwise, it's fair game to bus anyone up to 499 miles to play a game. They don't bat an eye at busing someone the maximum to maintain the seedings even if there's a team 50 miles away.

lem404 needs to read the playoff projections on the front page.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 11, 2006, 09:54:29 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2006, 03:38:01 AM
The NCAA only seeks to minimize travel costs by eliminating air travel whenever possible. Otherwise, it's fair game to bus anyone up to 499 miles to play a game. They don't bat an eye at busing someone the maximum to maintain the seedings even if there's a team 50 miles away.

lem404 needs to read the playoff projections on the front page.
Quote from: baseman201 on November 10, 2006, 11:51:56 PM
yeah I agree, I don't think CUW would fair to well in a rematch with NCC.

Either way, they would be in Mt. Unions bracket, so their quest would end sooner or later.  But hey, make it far enough to get pounded by Mt. Union would be worth it.

Now, I do hope CUW wins a playoff game so I hate to say this but, I think CUW (whoever they play) will get beat by 14+ pts in their opening playoff game.  I hope they prove me wrong but CUW has some good teams in their "projected" bracket.   I was correct last year in saying that Lakeland would get spanked by 25 or more by Augustana, and they did.  CUW would need to play flawless in every single category no matter who they play (NCC or Wheaton).

But like I said, Mt. Union is going to win the whole thing again anyhow so it doesn't matter too much.  But wow, to play Mt. Union and get a chance to see the talent they have would be an amazing experience.


Pat's assessment is correct...and if that again holds true this weekend, it looks like Hope will get that "amazing experience" ;D  On the other hand, sometimes some strange things can happen i.e. Rutgers the other night; yet that will be difficult for Hope and less likely to occur, it would be great (for us) to see that happen. ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 11, 2006, 10:34:32 AM
The one key stat that I look at is that the Illini-Badger Conference has not won a playoff game ever.  Hopefully for the IBFC and CUW's sake they can erase that stat this year!  There are some big boys and great teams in the Midwest Region but like my HS Coach said,  "Don't forget that YOU are apart of this group and YOU had to do something right consistently to get where you are today.  Don't be intimidated by your opponent."
I think some people see Mt. Union (or another perennial stalwart) and lose the game(s) in their minds before they even step foot on the field.  Playoff Football is about heart and execution, and anything can happen.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2006, 11:45:21 AM
Quote from: 79jaybird on November 11, 2006, 10:34:32 AM
The one key stat that I look at is that the Illini-Badger Conference has not won a playoff game ever.  Hopefully for the IBFC and CUW's sake they can erase that stat this year!  There are some big boys and great teams in the Midwest Region but like my HS Coach said,  "Don't forget that YOU are apart of this group and YOU had to do something right consistently to get where you are today.  Don't be intimidated by your opponent."
I think some people see Mt. Union (or another perennial stalwart) and lose the game(s) in their minds before they even step foot on the field.  Playoff Football is about heart and execution, and anything can happen.

Hear, hear!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BVHawk on November 11, 2006, 10:22:03 PM
Congrats to Concordia for making the post season and best of luck!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: HOW IT IS on November 12, 2006, 04:12:06 AM
I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT MACMURRAYS OWN CAREER RUSHING LEADER PETER EREG SET AN ALL COLLEGE RECORD ALL DIVSION RECORD WITH HIS 330 PLUS RUSIHNG AGAINST BLACKBURN. CONGRATS PETE AND WAY TO WIN OUT. I KNOW THAT IT WAS A DISSAPOINTING SEASON BUT HEY THEY DID WIN THEIR LAST TWO, AND GOOD LUCK CUW HOPE YOU WIN

AND THATS HOW IT IS!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on November 12, 2006, 09:14:37 AM
QuoteWOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT MACMURRAYS OWN CAREER RUSHING LEADER PETER EREG SET AN ALL COLLEGE RECORD ALL DIVSION RECORD WITH HIS 330 PLUS RUSIHNG AGAINST BLACKBURN.

Record for what, yards in a game?  I belive Dante Brown from Marietta holds that with 441..  Two unbeliveable games back-to-back for Ereg though!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ptownhero on November 12, 2006, 11:22:53 AM
i really dont see how all these crappy teams are letting macmurray run all over them.  macmurray is a sub par team.  im not sure but did macmurray get some of thier starters back from injuries.  If they did i understand because they had some good talent going in to the season opener.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 12, 2006, 03:20:44 PM
My fault for not being thorough in my previous reply.  I will try to be more informed next time.  I was just getting tired of the bashing and talk of the other teams when the focus should be on CUW and their first round opponent. 

I just feel the IBFC board was becoming too much of a 'trash and bash' window instead of talking present conference issues and events (the latest and most important being CUW and their representation of the IBFC in this years playoffs).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on November 12, 2006, 03:55:33 PM
Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on October 28, 2006, 07:45:57 PM
Things are falling into place for a rematch.

North Central at Concordia Wis. first round of the playoffs.

You heard it here first!



  ;D Can I get a witness? ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 12, 2006, 07:45:24 PM
Congratulations to Concordia-WI on their IBFC title and playoffs.  The rematch is set for next Saturday in another "Bird Bowl" clash.  When we (Elmhurst) plays NC we refer to that game as the annual "Bird Bowl", but now we have a playoff clash of the birds. 
As I said before, I think the advantage rests with the team that has "revenge" on their minds, which is a little extra essence to keep their emotional levels elevated.  Should be a good game in Milwaukee.  I am hoping Pat summons me to either Wheaton  or this game for commentating, but we will have to see what happens.  If I am not at this game, best of luck to both teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 13, 2006, 01:47:18 AM
I found the post Fatal and it wasn't you bashing players and neither did baseman. I know baseman wouldn't do that, he is a better person than that. Sorry for accusing you.

CUW, good luck on Saturday...I was going to try and make it but Ohio St./Michigan game is on and also the paperview for UFC afterwards...so I send you my best wishes. ;D

(gotta end it with some kind of smiley face)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2006, 08:34:00 AM
   CU-W vs North Central................
     This looks to be the best chance The IBC has in winning an NCAA play-off
      game since MacMurray lost in the last few seconds to Thomas Moore a
     few years ago. 
     CU_W knows it can beat NC as they`ve done it once before in a tight
      game and NC knows what they have to do this time around. 
     Who`s in Who`s head? 
      Neutral field, beat them once, un-defeated, a ton of pressure riding on
       the outcome. No, make that history making outcome.
     CU-W can finally......... put the IBC on the map and quill the critics once
     and for all.
     I`m ready to put the pressure on them, CU-W will win this game,period!!
     Hope some of you guys get to see the game and give us the details.
         
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 13, 2006, 08:41:57 AM
It should be close.....Hey what about AU only losing by a touchdown to Wooster in 2004 that was a close battle the entire way..Trust me that was a very close game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 13, 2006, 09:12:55 AM
Godd luck CUW. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2006, 09:19:21 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 13, 2006, 08:41:57 AM
It should be close.....Hey what about AU only losing by a touchdown to Wooster in 2004 that was a close battle the entire way..Trust me that was a very close game

  You are correct. Wooster had an All-American, do everything running back and  AU almost pulled off the win. Great, great game by AU none the less but  as the say," close but no cigar."
   I really feel this year will be different, for CU_W that is.
  CU_W players get THE Ring and an NCAA play-off win. Hey, they need the pressure. Those memories will  last a life time.

 
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 13, 2006, 11:59:04 PM
so ummm...anything else to talk about now other than CUW??? Any of you guys follow your basketball teams?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_7_seven on November 14, 2006, 10:50:53 AM
i know it is early... Any ideas who Mac may hire as a new coach?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on November 14, 2006, 11:44:42 AM
This guy maybe?

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Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 14, 2006, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: mac_5_seven on November 14, 2006, 11:44:42 AM
This guy maybe?

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   He was a winning coach while at Mac, then he left for greener pastures!
     His Head Coaching record at Tri_State over 2 years was 1-19, or close to
     it.
    He didn`t deliver so they, Tri-State, let him go.
    Then he shows up at Olivet as a line coach. Somebody on the forum
     found that out. Was that you?
    Point is, When a HC dishes a school for what ever reason, his name
    should not go back into the hat. He doesn`t deserve a second bite at the
    apple, IMO.
     When he was at Mac he had the "horses"..... The records speak for
       themselves.
     At Tri-State  had "ponies"......the record speaks for it self.
     Makes you wonder how good of a coach he really is/was. 
    As Mac will be in a NEW conference next year( i guess) maybe they need
      to look in a new direct for a Head Coach as well.
     
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 14, 2006, 02:48:18 PM
okay, is this new conference thing happening this up-coming season or the season of 08??? I am hearing things left and right and just was wondering if anyone knew for sure. thanks.

Score for Saturday:

CUW 28 NCC 24

anyone else got a score idea?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 14, 2006, 04:18:06 PM
Over on the CCIW Pick Em's I posted my score/prediction of the NC/CUW game.

North Central 30
Concordia WI 17

I think the Cardinals have the revenge factor on their side and in the playoffs, that is a big booster in crunch time.  I think this is close until the 4th quarter, when NC pulls away with their veteran Quarterback.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: keil59 on November 14, 2006, 04:41:27 PM
I tend to agree with jaybird, NCC showed they can beat an offense similar to the one CUW runs.  In fact they held Augie scoreless.  I dont think they will hold CUW scoreless. I hope it is a good game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 14, 2006, 05:01:00 PM
I agree with jaybird as well

I think NCC wins by the 14-20 point range.  Like everyone said before revenge is a huge factor and I think they stick it to CUW. 

I say maybe NCC wins 35-15 or something close to that.

And the conference will begin for football in 08, though every other sport is beginning the NAC this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 14, 2006, 08:26:17 PM
Contrary to the posts before me, I think CUW pulls off an upset (even though they won before, and I believe they're the underdogs) and wins this game by one or two touchdowns
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on November 14, 2006, 09:32:15 PM
First time around, NCC couldn't stop the CUW counter plays. This time they will. First time, CUW's passing attack was terrible. I'll guess that they figured it out just a little. First time, double overtime. This time, well do they have lights at Wisconsin Lutheran? Could go deeper into overtime.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 15, 2006, 09:30:00 AM
All-American QB beats All_American D-lineman.  Sorry Bobby.  I'll take Kam in a blowout.  CUW can't throw the ball.  NCC beat a better CUW team (Augie) later in the season.  NCC wins.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 15, 2006, 02:42:09 PM
lets go falcons
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 15, 2006, 09:53:37 PM
Well said
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 15, 2006, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on November 14, 2006, 02:48:18 PM
okay, is this new conference thing happening this up-coming season or the season of 08??? I am hearing things left and right and just was wondering if anyone knew for sure. thanks.


The IBFC will have its final season next fall. Most of the schools in the IBFC will play football in the Northern Athletics Conference beginning in 2008. The NAC formed this year - it's a merger of the Lake Michigan Conference and Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference. Macmurray, Eureka and Greenville will not play football in the NAC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 16, 2006, 02:28:40 PM
my karma points dropped from last time and i havent said anything in awhile nor do i think i said anything to piss someone off. oh well. Seems like this game between CUW/NCC is going to be a close one, there will be no blow out though. CUW is not a slack team and will not get beat by more than a touchdown if they do lose, don't give NCC that much credit because they have revenge on their side. You could hold a little comparison to the beginning of the season but how many weeks away is that from now? Yes, both teams have improved and it is going to be a good game! 8)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 16, 2006, 02:30:07 PM
But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, his greatest fulfillment of all he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi

sorry, i just read the bottom of my post and had to copy and past for some reason...one of the greatest quotes ever.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on November 16, 2006, 03:06:45 PM
I think its going to be a great game and am pulling for CU-W all the way.  However, Pat made a great point in the Around the Nation for this week.  Last time the teams met, the Falcons already had a game under their belt and NC didn't.  Either way, wish I could make it...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 16, 2006, 04:27:10 PM
And that's one underlying factor.  North Central was playing a strong CUW team, without a game under the belt, and without a chance to play "Mr. Fix It"  after a game.  Most Coaches and Players like to get that first game out of the way, so they can fix what needs to be fixed, and fine tune what IS working.  CUW beat a good team, however not a "polished" team.  NOW, NC is polished and looking to improve by advancing to the 2nd round.  For CUW's sake, the Falcons better not take the attitude of "Hey we beat them already,  they are a pushover"  and go into Saturday's game, "What we did in week 2 means NOTHING, we need to play well today and fight hard."
May the best team win and hopefully injury free! :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 16, 2006, 04:40:31 PM
THE LAST GREAT IBFC SEASON PICKS:
[/b]

1. AU - Conference Champs & Last IBFC NCAA III Reps.
2. Greenville
3. Beneditine (Coop's time w/his team begins to pay off)
4. CUW
5. Lakeland
6. Mac (Tied w/CUC)
6. CUC
7. Eureka

You read it here first...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 16, 2006, 05:29:13 PM
You have 2006's best team finishing 4th and the 2006 2nd best team finishing 5th?  What is your factual backbone for this prediction?
Between CUW and Lakeland, these 2 have been the two frontrunners the last few years, so why would they all of a sudden fall to the middle of the pack?
I agree that AU and BU will be better, but to make that jump in 1-2 years?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 16, 2006, 06:56:22 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on November 16, 2006, 05:29:13 PM
You have 2006's best team finishing 4th and the 2006 2nd best team finishing 5th?  What is your factual backbone for this prediction?
Between CUW and Lakeland, these 2 have been the two frontrunners the last few years, so why would they all of a sudden fall to the middle of the pack?
I agree that AU and BU will be better, but to make that jump in 1-2 years?

Actual 79, the 2nd best team in the conference was AU, after AU beat Lakeland, because LC beat GC, so AU was #2 and yes they can make that jump........
Quote from: aufb05 on November 16, 2006, 04:40:31 PM
THE LAST GREAT IBFC SEASON PICKS:
[/b]

1. AU - Conference Champs & Last IBFC NCAA III Reps.
2. Greenville
3. Beneditine (Coop's time w/his team begins to pay off)
4. CUW
5. Lakeland
6. Mac (Tied w/CUC)
6. CUC
7. Eureka

You read it here first...

I completely Agree.......79 This will happen
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 16, 2006, 07:05:37 PM
CUW gets 12 1st team all conference players...Oline of year, Dline of year, Dback of year, special teams of year, WR of year and coach of year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 16, 2006, 07:46:53 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on November 16, 2006, 07:05:37 PM
CUW gets 12 1st team all conference players...Oline of year, Dline of year, Dback of year, special teams of year, WR of year and coach of year

Stupid
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on November 16, 2006, 09:08:56 PM
aufb05,

lakeland beat gc, and aurora beat lakeland so that makes au the 2nd best team in the conference, huh...

didn't au lose to GC? and didn't au get blown out by cuw. and didn't cuw need a late td to send the game  into OT at home vs, GC to give themselves a chance to win the game.

gc was the 2nd best team in this league. au was forunate that gc fumbled in the redzone several times to keep au in the game. au offense got shut out in that game vs gc.

You also had the benefit of not having to face lakeland's best player- Mac White who was basically there offense.

gc is ahead of au in scoring offense, scoring defense, total offense, total d, passing d and rush d in stats. i consider those to be the top catergories when measuring a team.

nothing supports au being better than gc other than the win over lakeland at the end of the season and gc lost to lakeland at the beginning of the season.

come back to reality please
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on November 16, 2006, 09:25:03 PM
this game between cuw and nc can go either way.

cuw has a strong running attack, u have to committ extra guys to stop the run...however they have great wrs who consistently get open deep. all big, tall and run well enough. they have and underrated passing attack

cuw defense..u won't run inside on them often and they have a great back 4. athletic lbs who run well although not great. i suspect their back 4 is as good as anyone in the cciw.
cuw has all the ingredients to beat nc again. they match up extremly well.

the team w/ the best staff will win. it will be a game of who learned most from game 1, and who adjust best.

by the way..just b/c they are a wingt team doesn't mean their offense is similar to augies. it's not...they are a finesse team..augie is a power team. u approach them completely different mindset to stop them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 16, 2006, 10:35:54 PM
I dont see how it is stupid for a 10-0 team  to get a lot of guys on the 1st team...it was one of the amazing years...does anyone know the whole list...bc CUW just has 1st team posted and we dont have player of year posted
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 16, 2006, 11:50:32 PM
Genius(right),
You are gonna hold us responsible for LC player not bein there.....Your're obviously not giving LC a whole lot of credit here....LC was a good team, AU just flat out beat em AU was the better team that day.....GC only won by 7 over AU  and ur sayin how lucky AU that GC fumbled...That reflects a player that needs work...Actually We will take credit...AU forced those fumbles...Face it AU is the better team...You actually had a better chance to beat em at the beginning of the season.....AU wins conf next year.....Genius Come Back to reality......Please
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 17, 2006, 01:12:55 AM
Quote from: sotha sil on November 16, 2006, 10:35:54 PM
I dont see how it is stupid for a 10-0 team  to get a lot of guys on the 1st team...it was one of the amazing years...does anyone know the whole list...bc CUW just has 1st team posted and we dont have player of year posted

the reason why i said it was stupid, is because there were other great players in the conf. that are overlooked because everyone just sees W's or they vote because of a player being all conf. the year before. I suggest that the coaches dont even know who they are voting for most of the time, they are going off of the head coach of the team and his suggestions, there are, will be,and have been poeple that have not earned all conf. but are on the list. IF CUW is that good then by all means they deserve to be on the list, but look hard at the other schools!! thats all!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 17, 2006, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 16, 2006, 11:50:32 PM
Genius(right),
You are gonna hold us responsible for LC player not bein there.....Your're obviously not giving LC a whole lot of credit here....LC was a good team, AU just flat out beat em AU was the better team that day.....GC only won by 7 over AU  and ur sayin how lucky AU that GC fumbled...That reflects a player that needs work...Actually We will take credit...AU forced those fumbles...Face it AU is the better team...You actually had a better chance to beat em at the beginning of the season.....AU wins conf next year.....Genius Come Back to reality......Please

Fatal you're such a little punk and have been all freakin season. All season you've said crap with nothing to back anything up. When we said J.R Harriel should be Defensive Player of the Year and proved the stats you were like that would never happen he aint that good. And umm ya he's gonna get Defensive Player of the Year like we said, then we said how close GC was going to play CUW and you were like nope CUW will blow them out. Dude get over it AU is no more, GC beat them and will continue to beat them next year.  GC is the better team. it's proven statistically, we beat you and took the 10-0 playoff team to OT.   GC proved it over and over their the 2nd best team in this conference this year.  Next year GC has most everyone coming back, the OL, most of the Defensive, and Dom Kegal the QB. So fatal once again quite being a little punk!

2006 IBFC
1) Greenville
2) CUW
3) Lakeland
4) Benedictine
5) Aurora
6) CUC
7) Eureka
8. MAC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 17, 2006, 10:29:02 AM
I think Concordia-WI would trade all of those post-season All Conference Awards for a win on Saturday.  Awards are nominations which means somebody has to put your name in the hat. 
I think CUW will be focused and prepared (as will NC) and should be a good dogfight on Saturday.
I did not get a chance to see Aurora this year.  I did get a chance to see Lakeland and CUW, and thought these 2 teams were pretty good.

Saturday's game will also be a beneficial for CUW because in the upcoming years they have Wheaton College on their non-conference schedule.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: hollaatyourboy1981 on November 17, 2006, 11:02:07 AM
On the whole topic as to who really should be number two, realize that when Lakeland BEAT Greenville many of the starters for this years muskie team were suspended...Most of them for the whole game...Now take that how you want to...:-)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on November 17, 2006, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on November 16, 2006, 04:27:10 PM
And that's one underlying factor.  North Central was playing a strong CUW team, without a game under the belt, and without a chance to play "Mr. Fix It"  after a game.  Most Coaches and Players like to get that first game out of the way, so they can fix what needs to be fixed, and fine tune what IS working.  CUW beat a good team, however not a "polished" team.  NOW, NC is polished and looking to improve by advancing to the 2nd round.  For CUW's sake, the Falcons better not take the attitude of "Hey we beat them already,  they are a pushover"  and go into Saturday's game, "What we did in week 2 means NOTHING, we need to play well today and fight hard."
May the best team win and hopefully injury free! :)


There's that great cliche that teams improve the most between the 1st and 2nd games. ;D If that holds for NCC and CUW, NCC should come out on top, since NCC would have improved the most since the first meeting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lboogie99 on November 17, 2006, 02:14:11 PM
I don't usually post on this particular conference board, but i was wondering if anyone could help me out.  I was wondering if there was anybody on here who used to attend Benedictine U, when it was IBC.  The reason i'm asking is because i'm looking for information on a coach named Ralph Young he coached there for awhile in the 80's.  If anybody can help me out that would be great.  Just send me a personal message or something.  Thanks
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 17, 2006, 02:18:05 PM
"When it was IBC"
LBoogie99,  when did Benedictine change their name from IBC?  Originally the school was St. Procopius, then became Illinois Benedictine.  If there has been another name change, what is it? Please inform.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lboogie99 on November 17, 2006, 02:19:50 PM
Jay bird,
  After St. Precopius, it became Illinois Benedictine College or IBC
that's just what i was referring to.  I know it was IBC in the 80's for sure cause that's when my old man played there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on November 17, 2006, 02:21:12 PM
JR Harriel #25
Greenville Panthers

First, I would just like to thank all who supported me through out this season/my career.

Special thanks to Maddog for making his "Maddog POY".  But honestly I was just out there trying to have fun.  By the way tell Ryan I said what up.

Special thanks to TruCountry: you have been supporting me since day one...Big ups for that.  I'm still trying to figure out who you are.  

For the rest of you, I enjoy reading all of your post...some funny, some not, some interesting, some not, "Bobby" some even gay.  Great season by the way 92.  

As for me, it was great playing four years in the IBFC/Greenville, I had a lot of fun even got a chance to meet some great people/players such as: The whole GC Program, Ryan Maiuri, Larry P., Bobby L, Coach Z from LC, RB from Eureka, Peter E., Van da Loo from LC, Manny Mills, Mac White LC, Terry Martin, All the Coaches, Jon C., Aaron G., BU-RB's, CUC QB, AU- TE, AU-DB's...man I can go on forever. I know it's many more, sorry if I didn't get to you.  Hats off to each and every one of you.

Last but not least, CUW-Big game this weekend.  I pick you guys to come out on top by 10 pts.  Bobby they can't stop you, it your day.  O line and D line, you're the best I've ever seen, this game will be depending on your performances...Show me something Wilbert Allen.

"Make it a Great Day"    
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 17, 2006, 02:28:15 PM
Genius-

Here's reality 1999 - 2006 Conference W & L

AU   46-10
GRN 22-34
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 17, 2006, 02:31:35 PM
JRH-

It has been a pleasure watdhing you play. May the winds be always at your back.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 17, 2006, 03:57:30 PM
I want to say that St. Procopius became Illinois Benedictine College in the 70's??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on November 17, 2006, 04:17:20 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on November 16, 2006, 10:35:54 PM
I dont see how it is stupid for a 10-0 team  to get a lot of guys on the 1st team...it was one of the amazing years...does anyone know the whole list...bc CUW just has 1st team posted and we dont have player of year posted


http://www.illinibadger.org/news-players%20of%20the%20conference.htm



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 17, 2006, 04:48:53 PM
Quote from: JRHarriel25 on November 17, 2006, 04:17:20 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on November 16, 2006, 10:35:54 PM
I dont see how it is stupid for a 10-0 team  to get a lot of guys on the 1st team...it was one of the amazing years...does anyone know the whole list...bc CUW just has 1st team posted and we dont have player of year posted


http://www.illinibadger.org/news-players%20of%20the%20conference.htm


I think the Punter from CUC should have been at least 2nd team if not first!!!(tepen)!!! he was much better this year and better then the players who are on the list. Congrats to Yerkes and Klopke of CUC, they did a great job this year. CUC will do a Fine job next year with the players they have coming back, and because of the players that are leaving!




Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 17, 2006, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on November 17, 2006, 09:38:44 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 16, 2006, 11:50:32 PM
Genius(right),
You are gonna hold us responsible for LC player not bein there.....Your're obviously not giving LC a whole lot of credit here....LC was a good team, AU just flat out beat em AU was the better team that day.....GC only won by 7 over AU  and ur sayin how lucky AU that GC fumbled...That reflects a player that needs work...Actually We will take credit...AU forced those fumbles...Face it AU is the better team...You actually had a better chance to beat em at the beginning of the season.....AU wins conf next year.....Genius Come Back to reality......Please

Fatal you're such a little punk and have been all freakin season. All season you've said crap with nothing to back anything up. When we said J.R Harriel should be Defensive Player of the Year and proved the stats you were like that would never happen he aint that good. And umm ya he's gonna get Defensive Player of the Year like we said, then we said how close GC was going to play CUW and you were like nope CUW will blow them out. Dude get over it AU is no more, GC beat them and will continue to beat them next year.  GC is the better team. it's proven statistically, we beat you and took the 10-0 playoff team to OT.   GC proved it over and over their the 2nd best team in this conference this year.  Next year GC has most everyone coming back, the OL, most of the Defensive, and Dom Kegal the QB. So fatal once again quite being a little punk!

2006 IBFC
1) Greenville
2) CUW
3) Lakeland
4) Benedictine
5) Aurora
6) CUC
7) Eureka
8. MAC


Woah woah woah....Theres a lil bit of fire.....I'm shakin.....How have I been a punk.....Y'all were the punks...First sayin AU was gonna lose to BU...Didnt happen...Then Y'all said AU was gonna lose to CUC..Didnt happen....Y'all said AU was gonna lose to LC......Didnt happen....Going back through the games this season...At the time I said Langston was going to get DPOY because at that time he was having a better season....Still kinda is....Y'all Just mad that AU is gonna win conf next year.....face it TRU your gonna be shocked next year, when GC returns to its roots, while AU returns to its......That means AU wins the IBFC and GC is down at the 4 or 5 spot.....And like AUFB05 says the history speaks for itself

Quote from: aufb05 on November 17, 2006, 02:28:15 PM
Genius-

Here's reality 1999 - 2006 Conference W & L

AU   46-10
GRN 22-34

Congrats on 2 good seasons opposed to AU's many.....AU 2007 IBFC Champs
Title: illinibadger conference
Post by: tpoe on November 17, 2006, 06:50:27 PM
Congrats to all those who made all conference this season. I want to say thanks to all those who showed me love on this thing. Trucountry most of all becasue he held me down. To all those d linemen and linebackers I faced these last two years thank you for giving me a challenge. Larry P you are a great ball player as well as Bobby L and W. Allen ( even though I missed the CUW game this year) I missed the CUW game and the CUC game because I had my appendix removed after the AU game. I had a great time playing in this conference and with my teammates as well as apponents. Thanks foe the memories and MADDOG I better be on the all maddog team. JUST KIDDING


BE EASY

TERRANCE POE
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: tpoe on November 17, 2006, 06:51:49 PM
Congrats to all those who made all conference this season. I want to say thanks to all those who showed me love on this thing. Trucountry most of all becasue he held me down. To all those d linemen and linebackers I faced these last two years thank you for giving me a challenge. Larry P you are a great ball player as well as Bobby L and W. Allen ( even though I missed the CUW game this year) I missed the CUW game and the CUC game because I had my appendix removed after the AU game. I had a great time playing in this conference and with my teammates as well as apponents. Thanks foe the memories and MADDOG I better be on the all maddog team. JUST KIDDING


BE EASY

TERRANCE POE
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on November 17, 2006, 07:07:37 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on November 17, 2006, 03:57:30 PM
I want to say that St. Procopius became Illinois Benedictine College in the 70's??

From their website:

Benedictine University was founded in Chicago as St. Procopius College by the Benedictine monks of St. Procopius Abbey in 1887. It secured a charter from the state of Illinois in 1890. The College was founded to educate men of Czech and Slovak descent, and most students were of Czech ancestry in the early years.

In 1901 the College moved to the more congenial atmosphere of Lisle, in DuPage County. The first building, Benedictine Hall, was dedicated in September 1901. The building was completed by 1921 and new buildings began to be added after 1926. The College became coeducational in 1968 and was renamed Illinois Benedictine College in 1971. In response to community needs, graduate, doctorate and adult learner programs were added. The College became Benedictine University in 1996.


One of my high school coaches was an All American when it was St. Procopius but it was Illinois Benedictine College when I played against them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2006, 08:26:59 AM
Quote from: JRHarriel25 on November 17, 2006, 04:17:20 PM
Quote from: sotha sil on November 16, 2006, 10:35:54 PM
I dont see how it is stupid for a 10-0 team  to get a lot of guys on the 1st team...it was one of the amazing years...does anyone know the whole list...bc CUW just has 1st team posted and we dont have player of year posted


http://www.illinibadger.org/news-players%20of%20the%20conference.htm





   Thanks for the "post". 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: matblake on November 18, 2006, 09:11:44 AM
Good luck to CUW today.  They did an excellent job to go undefeated.  North Central should have their hands full again, just as before.  Here's hoping for the safety of all the players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 18, 2006, 02:00:24 PM
7-0 NCC going into the half....keep it up CUW play your asses off.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 18, 2006, 02:19:46 PM
Marcus Ellwood...not sure where you got your info from.  Its 21-0 NCC at the half, CUW with just 72 rushing yards and he way these announcers are making it sound under "Home Radio" it is very ugly.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 18, 2006, 02:41:12 PM
28-0 NCC, 10mins left in 3rd
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 18, 2006, 03:19:49 PM
35-0...r u kidding.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 18, 2006, 06:35:57 PM
My prediction was 35-15

Pretty close huh???

We all knew NCC was going to come out on top in this one, this was not a surpise to me and it shouldn't be to anyone else either.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 18, 2006, 07:46:55 PM
Congratulations Concordia WI on a great year despite the tough game this afternoon.  You should be happy with your season and try to build on this year's successes.  I think the playoff appearances and wins will start to fall into place.
Was a very exciting game for a half.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 18, 2006, 08:50:47 PM
from someone who played today...i have to say the NCC QB is amazing...CUW played hyped but couldnt find that vibe....TOs killed them....special teams play didnt come up big like it had all year (even failed them at times)....good luck to NCC CUW layed some gound work for their school now I hope it keeps moving forward
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 18, 2006, 10:42:01 PM
SothaSil-  Your team played hard this afternoon and just couldn't really get their engines going.  I thought your Defensive Line played decent and had some big boys on the line.  You are right that this year's Senior Class is the foundation and/or backbone for the future.  Hopefully for CUW they can build upon this year's success.
Also, CUW is scheduled to play Wheaton in non-conf. play in the upcoming years.  Today's game is a great taste of what the CCIW Competition will bring in years to come.  Congrats on a great season.
One thing I wanted to ask to a player.  CUW has played NC and will be playing Wheaton.  Given their Geography and proximity to Carthage/NC/Wheaton/EC/NPU, why don't they consider joining the CCIW?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cardinaldad on November 18, 2006, 11:08:14 PM
Quote from: lboogie99 on November 17, 2006, 02:14:11 PM
I don't usually post on this particular conference board, but i was wondering if anyone could help me out.  I was wondering if there was anybody on here who used to attend Benedictine U, when it was IBC.  The reason i'm asking is because i'm looking for information on a coach named Ralph Young he coached there for awhile in the 80's.  If anybody can help me out that would be great.  Just send me a personal message or something.  Thanks

I believe he is talking about the name change from IBC to IBU. Right, lboogie99?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on November 18, 2006, 11:29:16 PM
Great season CUW

Congrats Mike Steinmetz for IBFC Player of the year

To all the underclassmen, your 2007 season starts now.

PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 19, 2006, 12:18:46 AM
I am just a player...but I figure if you look at CUWs other sports..their conference play is against these weaker wisco teams...Football (and a few other sports) are above the play of the NAC...but players dont have the choice to play...just the choice to work
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 19, 2006, 08:58:09 AM
Blah Blah Blah.... heard all of this story many many times, Same old same old!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on November 19, 2006, 04:36:39 PM
aufb05,

i know au was better than gc in the past. traditionally they have been the best team in this conference since its existence. duh..tell us something we don't know.

u still have not added anything intelligent to support you position. you responded to  gc fumbles and Lakeland not having their best player. You diverted attention to Lakeland but didn't respond. I learn that in my psychology classes they called that "deflection" and it is a defense mechanism.

You didn't respond to the fact that au LOST to GC. Respond to why in basically every major stat for the year Au is behind  GC. if they are  better why did they lose head to head.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on November 19, 2006, 04:45:00 PM
hollaatyourboy1981,

it is unforuntate that players at lakeland were suspensded. congrats for beating gc undermanned. and it is unforunate that you didn't have mac white in the lost to aurora. what was he suspended for? i'm sure he was out forsomething off the field. please, inquiring minds want to know.   

sounds like your team has no discipline. that may be why so many people post on how dirty of a team you have. that may be why you guys are almost as talented as cuw but you don't play anywhere near that talent.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 19, 2006, 05:40:56 PM
Genius,
Whats ur beef dude, AUFB05 made his point, you're jumping on the GC bandwagon, that means your all joy now that they actually got some W's, AUFB05 stated that AU is traditionally better than GC....No-one knows how next season will go...Those are our perdictions.......Plus we can put GC that low theyre losing a major defensive player next year right?.....So thats a huge blow...that was like last year when LC lost Ryan....Face facts GC's defense will lack next year in the absence of that one special player.......AU 2007 IBFC Champs.....Oh yeah Genius you remind me of a person that used to post on here.......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 19, 2006, 08:41:18 PM
Gosh, what's with this board's Karma?  These look like great GOLF scores, not Karma ratings!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 19, 2006, 08:52:29 PM
FatalImpact

You cant say that GC is gonna be lacking on defense.  Who knows who they have coming in and who the back up's are.  You claimed it to be a fact but I think that is an opinion if anything.  Anyone is replaceable, I buy into that theory to the fullest.  You cant just make that claim and say it is a fact...it can be your opinion, but dont say its a fact cause we dont know for sure yet.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ptownhero on November 19, 2006, 09:36:03 PM
Genius

Read the stats.  Mac White did play in the game vs.  Au.  Pretty sure he had a rushing attempt in that game.  He was tackled by AU's safety. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on November 19, 2006, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 19, 2006, 05:40:56 PM
Genius,
Whats ur beef dude, AUFB05 made his point, you're jumping on the GC bandwagon, that means your all joy now that they actually got some W's, AUFB05 stated that AU is traditionally better than GC....No-one knows how next season will go...Those are our perdictions.......Plus we can put GC that low theyre losing a major defensive player next year right?.....So thats a huge blow...that was like last year when LC lost Ryan....Face facts GC's defense will lack next year in the absence of that one special player.......AU 2007 IBFC Champs.....Oh yeah Genius you remind me of a person that used to post on here.......

Yeah GC is "losing a major defensive player" but u must also know that a lot of our success comes from a great D-Coordinator- Ordell Walker (I know the players have some impact too, but this guy knows his stuff) putting us in the right position to make plays...with a great offence on the rise and only losing 8 seniors total I feel GC still comes into the 2007 season being one of the two best teams in the conference...I know you may think its hard to replace "that one special person" but with the offence on the rise and also STILL a very good defense with some younger and older talent I personally think GC will be in great shape.

Don't get me wrong AU have some very talented athletes also and I do think much like this season the conference title will come down to the very last game. Who will win?  Well don't really know for sure...but I rolling with the Panthers.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 19, 2006, 11:12:03 PM
JR,
I've played agains you man, ur one hell of a player......I'm just steppin in cuz these guys dont know.........What I was saying is that GC is a good team...I said it before.....I'm sure your D-coordinatoor is great but it comes down to the players making the plays......I figure that the one player is vital enuff to the equation to make a difference much like maddoggs son to LC....But Ibelieve with the players lost league wise itll be intresting to see how things shape up....My prediction, AU IBFC 2007 champs
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 19, 2006, 11:16:15 PM
Quote from: bufan on November 19, 2006, 08:52:29 PM
FatalImpact

You cant say that GC is gonna be lacking on defense.  Who knows who they have coming in and who the back up's are.  You claimed it to be a fact but I think that is an opinion if anything.  Anyone is replaceable, I buy into that theory to the fullest.  You cant just make that claim and say it is a fact...it can be your opinion, but dont say its a fact cause we dont know for sure yet.

Its a big change to replace all conference players....Its not like an underclassmen (though it could happen) have a better chance than if that person returned
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on November 20, 2006, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: 79jaybird on November 19, 2006, 08:41:18 PM
Gosh, what's with this board's Karma?  These look like great GOLF scores, not Karma ratings!
Great line ... I notice your karma rating has gone up about 10 in the last week. ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 20, 2006, 11:03:29 AM
MidwestFB-- I just glanced at some of the Karmas on this board and was shocked to see the -25, -10, etc.  Don't you guys (IBFC posters) ever compliment each other by dishing out + Karma?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 20, 2006, 11:52:45 AM
Think about this...CUW has now lost 20 seniors...gone are: a 4 time 1st team all conference player, three 3time 1st team all conference players, a group that had 19 first team all-conference selections, an oline of year, two dline of year, wr of year, db of year, and player of year...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 20, 2006, 11:53:08 AM
My point was...that will be tough to replace
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 20, 2006, 02:30:15 PM
Genius-

Here's another reality check for you-

Of GRN 13 all conferences players only 5 return

Of AU 16 all conference players 11 return

I gotta wonder why u picked the name Genius. 

AU not only wins the conference next season - they win the first IBFC post season playoff game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 20, 2006, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 20, 2006, 02:30:15 PM
Genius-

Here's another reality check for you-

Of GRN 13 all conferences players only 5 return

Of AU 16 all conference players 11 return

I gotta wonder why u picked the name Genius. 

AU not only wins the conference next season - they win the first IBFC post season playoff game

Thats a handy piece of info right there
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 20, 2006, 05:17:49 PM
Fatal (or anybody)  how many returnees does Lakeland have coming back?
Very early to be discussing next year's champion and a lot can happen over the Spring/Summer Months.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 20, 2006, 06:40:48 PM
Congrats on a great season CUW. 

P.S. Look for Twisted2 in the stat. spotlight next week.  I have a turkey game back home and I typically put up CRAZY L.T.ish numbers.  Don't be suprised if I rush for over 300 yards and score 6 TD's. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ptownhero on November 20, 2006, 07:30:04 PM
Genius

I am wondering where you got your information about Mac White not playing in the AU game.  The stats show he played and it proves that AU is a better team than what you believe they are. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 20, 2006, 08:03:48 PM
Aufb05-

Come on, sure AU may win conference next year, but like someone else said a little too early to be talking about that. 

But, they may win conference yes, but will get spanked in the first round just like CUW this past year, the IBC will not win a playoff game ever in its existence.  We Will have to wait for the NAC to start to maybe get a team who can win a playoff game....and even then it's pretty iffy.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 20, 2006, 09:04:12 PM
CUW should just go ahead and join the CCIW.  It would only make them better instead of playing in a weak conference and being allowed to get away with being predictable and simply not showing up for some games and winning.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 20, 2006, 10:09:40 PM
congrats on the great season CUW, NCC was just a better team and from what it seems, by far. What would be the point of throwing CUW to the CCIW, its like feeding hungry sharks. Some of the teams in that conference would destroy them. As for the IBFC never winning a playoff game, it will never happen in the NAC either. Just getting rid of GC, MAC and EU and adding other poop isn't going to make things better. As for AU winning conference next year... I will not comment because then it will just add on to all the nonsense that has already been being talked about. I am glad though, AU fans have strong feelings but you can't have your own opinion toward the school without getting b*tched at and then getting a crapload of - karma points slapped onto your name. Ehh, oh well...AU will not win conference next year. Sorry guys.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lboogie99 on November 20, 2006, 10:19:29 PM
yeah cardinal dad, that's what i was referring too.  But again does anyone, know anything about Ralph Young?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 20, 2006, 10:51:32 PM
Im afraid MarcusEllwood is right.  It will be a long time before the NAC wins a playoff game as well.  Like he said, if you take poop away and add different poop, nothing changes, really.  Yes a move for any team from the IBC to the CCIW would result in consistent 3-4, 2-5 records, maybe a 4-3 year if the stars are aligned.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 21, 2006, 01:02:33 AM
Quote from: falcsfb on November 20, 2006, 09:04:12 PM
CUW should just go ahead and join the CCIW.  It would only make them better instead of playing in a weak conference and being allowed to get away with being predictable and simply not showing up for some games and winning.

To join a conference, you first have to be invited by the current members. It's not as easy as crashing someone else's party. And there is zero chance that the CCIW is going to extend an invitation to CUW. The league is perfectly happy with its current eight-school setup.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on November 21, 2006, 01:07:33 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 21, 2006, 01:02:33 AM
Quote from: falcsfb on November 20, 2006, 09:04:12 PM
CUW should just go ahead and join the CCIW.  It would only make them better instead of playing in a weak conference and being allowed to get away with being predictable and simply not showing up for some games and winning.

To join a conference, you first have to be invited by the current members. It's not as easy as crashing someone else's party.

And I doubt the CCIW is looking to invite another Wisconsin team due to travel expenses for the Augustana, Millikin and Illinois Wesleyan games.

Part of the reason Carroll College dropped out of the CCIW was due to travel expenses.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 21, 2006, 01:11:14 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on November 21, 2006, 01:07:33 AMAnd I doubt the CCIW is looking to invite another Wisconsin team due to travel expenses for the Augustana, Millikin and Illinois Wesleyan games.

Part of the reason Carroll College dropped out of the CCIW was due to travel expenses.

Travel expenses and scheduling. It was a total headache for the CCIW to have both Carroll and Carthage in the league, because it meant that the men's and women's basketball teams for both schools had to do Friday/Saturday overnights down in Decatur and Bloomington, and in turn Millikin and Illinois Wesleyan's men's and women's basketball teams had to do Friday/Saturday overnights up in Kenosha and Waukesha. Everyone hated that setup, and it was a relief when Carroll's departure no longer made it necessary.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 21, 2006, 01:14:49 AM
Yeah, the NAC won't be much better either.

And I said before that CUW would probably be a .500 team or lower if they were in most other conferences, just think if the other teams in this conference weren't in the IBC?  It would be madness, no one would win a game.  CUC, EU and BU (not lately though) struggled to even win one game in the IBC.  AU, LC and CUW would maybe win a couple, but that's it.

It's good the IBC will be no more, we can start fresh with a new conference and maybe something good will happen.......maybe.

But I think everyone agrees that no one from the IBC will win a playoff game, not even the "great" playoff bound AU squad for next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 21, 2006, 02:08:28 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 21, 2006, 01:14:49 AM
Yeah, the NAC won't be much better either.

Travel in several team sports should improve for this conference when MSOE joins next year, because the conference will go to divisions (at least in basketball; I suspect that they'll go to divisions in sports such as volleyball, baseball, softball, etc., as well). But that won't help much as far as football is concerned. Since not every member of the NAthCon fields a football team, it'll just be one division for the gridders ... with plenty of long busrides.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 21, 2006, 08:45:19 AM
Actually Gregory I was just talking about how the NAC won't field a playoff winning football team for a long time as well.

But thanks for all the other input... ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 21, 2006, 10:19:36 AM
Greg or Mugsy,  I know why Carroll left the CCIW, but why did Lake Forest leave?
Football-- I think the NAC will be a "continuation" of the IBFC and not much will change.  You will have great Academic Institutions in the conference, but so-so to mediocre football teams in the NAC.  It is indeed a fresh start, and a clean slate.  Perhaps some teams can "rise up" and make a playoff run.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 21, 2006, 01:29:41 PM
Marcus-

I with you - whats up with these karma points? Who gives them - Who takes them away? Anyone?
Personally, I don't get the point of having them.

ptownhero has 3 posts and -2 karma. Who decided that. Is there a guide to posting that will tell eveyrone how to improve karma scores or why we should?

Can we trade karma points in for free D3 FB pics or passes to games?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on November 21, 2006, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on November 21, 2006, 10:19:36 AM
Greg or Mugsy,  I know why Carroll left the CCIW, but why did Lake Forest leave?
Football-- I think the NAC will be a "continuation" of the IBFC and not much will change.  You will have great Academic Institutions in the conference, but so-so to mediocre football teams in the NAC.  It is indeed a fresh start, and a clean slate.  Perhaps some teams can "rise up" and make a playoff run.

I'm sure I've heard why Lake Forest left before, but I can't recall the specifics.  I probably heard it from Greg since he is the CCIW historian of the group. 

This occurred well before my time. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on November 21, 2006, 04:47:57 PM
Can someone talk about something more exciting!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on November 21, 2006, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: 7400West on November 21, 2006, 04:47:57 PM
Can someone talk about something more exciting!

How about...Players to watch out for 2007 season:
(no perticular order)

Mac- Terry Martin
CUC- Jason Weeks
Mac- Rodney Payne...This dude is good
GC- Dom Kegel
CUW- Wilbur Allen
Mac- Antwain Jones
GC- Mark Schopp
LC- John Wagner

(Its more so help me out)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 21, 2006, 08:39:41 PM
Those of you probably know that Dominican University (River Forest, IL) is a member of the Northern Athletics Conference (The University doesn't have football) and is a few blocks away from Concordia.  Just want to mention that their Soccer Team was 1 win away from the Final Four.  Congrats on a great season Stars. (ah, Stars is their mascot)
Too bad Dominican doesn't have a Football Team,  that would make for a great River Forest Rivalry with town bragging rights.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 22, 2006, 01:34:27 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on November 21, 2006, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on November 21, 2006, 10:19:36 AM
Greg or Mugsy,  I know why Carroll left the CCIW, but why did Lake Forest leave?
Football-- I think the NAC will be a "continuation" of the IBFC and not much will change.  You will have great Academic Institutions in the conference, but so-so to mediocre football teams in the NAC.  It is indeed a fresh start, and a clean slate.  Perhaps some teams can "rise up" and make a playoff run.

I'm sure I've heard why Lake Forest left before, but I can't recall the specifics.  I probably heard it from Greg since he is the CCIW historian of the group. 

This occurred well before my time. 

It was long before my time as well, but I can venture two guesses as to why Lake Forest left the CCIW:

1) Non-competitiveness (aside from golf and wrestling, the Foresters didn't really fare very well in any sports)
2) Opportunism (the MWC was a healthier conference than the CCIW in terms of membership stability back then; the CCIW was in the midst of a period of retrenchment in which charter members Wheaton and Elmhurst had recently left the league, North Park had just joined, and former member Carthage had just re-joined. There was a lot of flux in the league, and I'm sure the MWC looked like a better long-term bet to hold together than did the CCIW.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 22, 2006, 07:16:41 AM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 21, 2006, 01:29:41 PM
Marcus-

I with you - whats up with these karma points? Who gives them - Who takes them away? Anyone?
Personally, I don't get the point of having them.

ptownhero has 3 posts and -2 karma. Who decided that. Is there a guide to posting that will tell eveyrone how to improve karma scores or why we should?
Can we trade karma points in for free D3 FB pics or passes to games?
Your fellow posters give ( Applaud) or take away(smite) karma points.
   That way they can agree/dis-agree with out comment.
  Lazy man`s voting system.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 22, 2006, 09:50:24 AM
Thanks Gomer-

How does it work - I wanna give out some love.

11 do I hear 12 ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 22, 2006, 10:14:24 AM
Guys from CUW to look at...these are unproven but could be amazing players...

WR Kevin barrett- fastest Guy at CUW..and can catch the ball well..he will be working with Collier on his routes and should be good as hell

Jeremy Carver- came from a great highschool program in FL where he picked off some of the nations top QBs..great instincts just needs to get the scheme down

TJ #20 at the QB..i love that number at qb...has all the skills, lacks the height but can move and has proven already he can play..now has to step it up and be a leader and give CUW something is hasnt had in a while ...a starting QB the whole season through
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 22, 2006, 11:12:16 AM
I know you have to be invited by the other teams in the confernce to join and that there is a slim to none chance of CUW getting an invite, I am saying that is what I wish would happen.  As far is only going .500 Marcus and baseman I don't think you know what you are talking about. 

CUW got spanked in their playoff game because they were allowed to get worse every week playing the garbage teams in the IBFC, while NCC was forced to get better every week. 

I would have to say CUW this year would have lost two maybe three games in the CCIW putting them in 2nd or third.  Like I said, a dismal perforance by CUW many times this year still allowed them to come up with wins.  Competition brings out the best in teams, and many teams are not cometition.  CUW will simply go through the motions and still win.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CU Alum on November 22, 2006, 02:14:11 PM
Alright, being an alum of CU, and allowing myself several days to cool off - time to vent.  I too wish we could find a conference of some credible competition, and hats off to the players for their hard work and effort.  The NC game was not a game becasue of the lack of imagination on offense.  I was sitting next to the unioversity president and wanted so bad to ask how much alum pressure it would take to move on to a different OC but I refrained because in the real world FB is still just a game BUT really.  In my opinion you either get the kids you need for the offense or change to offense to fit the personnel. 

On the bright side I am looking forward to the new stadium. 

CU Alum


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on November 22, 2006, 03:41:49 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 22, 2006, 09:50:24 AM
Thanks Gomer-

How does it work - I wanna give out some love.

11 do I hear 12 ;D

You gain karma power on your 200th post. You're getting close. ;)

The purpose of karma  power was to give participants the ability to control the bahavior - positive power to people with worthwhile posts and negative karma if you just post nonsense. On some boards that use the same message board software, you lose your ability to post for some duration (or forever) if your karma level sinks too low.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 22, 2006, 03:43:20 PM
CU Alum-

I'm not sure what your saying?

R u saying you think CU lost to NC because it's in the IBFC or r u saying CU lost because it needs a new Offensive Coordinator?

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 22, 2006, 03:46:42 PM
Midwestfb-

Thanks, when I get to the magic number, I'll help you out of the hole.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CU Alum on November 22, 2006, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 22, 2006, 03:43:20 PM
CU Alum-

I'm not sure what your saying?

R u saying you think CU lost to NC because it's in the IBFC or r u saying CU lost because it needs a new Offensive Coordinator?



both -  I hate that offense -- much of the crowd was scratching their collective heads as well -- I am all for stickign with the game plan but again in my opinion the offensive game plan, although it went 10-0 is not a winner

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 22, 2006, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: CU Alum on November 22, 2006, 03:52:25 PM

both -  I hate that offense -- much of the crowd was scratching their collective heads as well -- I am all for stickign with the game plan but again in my opinion the offensive game plan, although it went 10-0 is not a winner


much of the crowd?  There really wasn't much of a crowd there!  Why was there such a small Concordia turnout for a "home" game?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 22, 2006, 06:20:36 PM
First, to CUW, congrats on a solid season and the playoff bid.  I was at the game and talking to many of the CUW grads I had played against (long ago) and it was plain to see to all of us the they were very rusty and not the same team that played NCC in the first match up.  But, that is why you play the game. 

It was disappointing due to the fact that many of the teams of the IBFC will not be seen as an automatic bid until the NAC application is accepted.  It was the last chance for the IBFC to pull out a win (again, I don't know for sure if the IBFC bid is done after this year or not).

If it is the NAC next year, I do believe the conference will apply (after my last uninformed post, not going to put too much stock in it).  I do believe the new conference has some potential, but until there is a win in the playoffs by one of the teams, it will be looked at very lightly.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2006, 06:21:45 PM
The IBFC will keep its bid in 2007. The NATHC likely will not have a bid in 2008 and 2009, according to NCAA bylaws.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 22, 2006, 06:26:19 PM
Forgive my rudeness,  Congrats to NCC for their solid play last Saturday as well.  The had 2-3 guys score for the first time this season in that game (I know of 2 for sure).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 22, 2006, 06:34:39 PM
Thank you for the assist Pat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 22, 2006, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: lem4094 on November 22, 2006, 06:26:19 PM
Forgive my rudeness,  Congrats to NCC for their solid play last Saturday as well.  The had 2-3 guys score for the first time this season in that game (I know of 2 for sure).

I don't think that is accurate.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 23, 2006, 12:14:32 AM
falcsfb-  I see your point in that CUW got worse every weekend and NCC get better.  I understand that principle. However, I disagree in this case.  You won in OT to greenville, and won by 12 to lakeland, a competitive game.  I dont recall the score of the AU game, but if that was close then there is another.  And if i recall CUC played you guys tough as well.  So i do see ure point but i dont think it applies in this instance.  Dont blame the lack of competition on an absolute poor performance in the first round.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 23, 2006, 10:28:43 AM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on November 22, 2006, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: CU Alum on November 22, 2006, 03:52:25 PM

both -  I hate that offense -- much of the crowd was scratching their collective heads as well -- I am all for stickign with the game plan but again in my opinion the offensive game plan, although it went 10-0 is not a winner




much of the crowd?  There really wasn't much of a crowd there!  Why was there such a small Concordia turnout for a "home" game?

That is disappointing.  You would think there would be a better crowd for a home game.  There was a smaller crowd at the Hope/Mount Union playoff game as well - official attendance listed as 1624.  I'm told many of the Mount faithful went to the OSU/U of M game and perhaps the crowd was down because they were playing us.  On the other hand, it still is disappointing to see attendence down at small college football games this year.  Not sure why.  There has been more parity this year I would say across the regions (i.e. no "run-away" powerhouses it seems like in past years other than MUC). 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 23, 2006, 09:53:49 PM
From my perspective (pressbox) the crowd was 80% NC and 20% CUW.  There was a sea of red on the East Stands.  I don't know why CUW didn't have a better turnout?  I thought that was rather discouraging (from a CUW standpoint) seeing that NC made it feel like a Cardinal home game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 24, 2006, 02:16:01 AM
BUFAn,

That's exactally my point, CUW was able to get away with playing uninspired, mediocre football as the year went on and still win.  They truly got worse every week.  They beat AU early in the year by nearly 3-4 TD's, AU ended beating the teams CUW had close games with to earn them second in the conference (congrats), and the game they had with CUW earlier in the year wasn't close.  CUW was able to do what it had to do to get by
lack of overall competition
instead of improving every week like they did early on.

As far as the fan problem at CUW I was disgusted by the turnout last saturday.  I noticed there was a gradual decrease in fans over the years even as the CUW played good ball and won conference championships.  The student body should be ashamed of this past year, what more motivation to go to a game do you need than a prefect season?  Something should be done about it.  Maybe Prof's can offer some sort of extra credit for students who attend any school sporting event.  Doesn't have to be anythign major, just a little incentive to get more fans at the game. Even though it shouldn't be neccessary.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 24, 2006, 02:22:11 PM
FalcsFB sounds like you are experiencing the same problem we faced at Elmhurst a few years ago with fan support, Or lack there of.
Up until recently we would have fans only come out if the team was winning.  I can recall being down 24-20 to Wheaton and most of the fans were leaving by the third quarter!
I know it is hard to get fans to "give up" their time on Saturdays to come and watch a game, but c'mon it's the NCAA Playoffs!  Come out and support your troops!  If I was a CUW player I would have been dismayed at the lack of turnout by our fans.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 25, 2006, 11:20:34 PM
Soooooo, boring...

Did anyone watch the ND/USC game tonight? How much USC weiner do you all think the commentators can suck??? They should make that into a game...haha.

I hope to see a rematch of OSU and U of M...just a little something to pep this board up other than sucking CUW weiner all day long right? ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 26, 2006, 11:47:40 AM
And pep this board up you did.  There should be no rematch marcus.  For several reasons, but first and foremost is the following.  Should Ohio State have to beat the same team twice to win the title while Michigan only has to win once?  Also, no better sit here and say that USC lost to Oregon St. and Michigan's loss was to Ohio State.  That is a completely invalid argument because if your argument is the loss, my argument is the wins, which USC has much more convincing non-conference wins, as you know.  USC is clearly the second best team in the country.  Michigan can blame itself by not scheduling Central Michigan(Dan Lefevour is the QB, brother of my ld o-line coach at BU), Vanderbilt, and Ball St., real impressive.  And you may say, Oh they beat Wisconsin.  Ha what a joke they are! They beat Buffalo and Bowling Green I believe, and like the extremely weak Big Ten after you get past the first two teams.  And if you would like to start an argument about how the BCS isnt the best system, ill do that too because a playoff is not the best way to settle things.

sorry, little sensitive on the subject
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 26, 2006, 04:41:05 PM
bufan:
I agree with some of what you say, but not all.  Indeed, USC appears to be a better 2nd ranked team than Michigan after Saturday's performance.  On the other hand, if USC loses to UCLA, they won't get the opportunity since they would have two losses, nor should they.  As far as Michigan, CMU and Ball State I agree with you, but Vanderbilt was a much better team.  Besides, the rest of the Big Ten teams schedule some lesser caliber DI teams as well, as do many of the big-time programs around the country.  As far as the BCS system, many would disagree with you that a playoff is not the way to settle the arguments.  It works for all the other levels and would for DI; no system is perfect, however, nor ever will be.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 26, 2006, 07:55:43 PM
In the National Title Game I would have two possibilities:
A)  the one I see happening,

Ohio St. vs. USC  USC pounded ND and showed great speed and quickness.  As much as I can't stand any CA school, you have to give USC props for a great team.

Ohio St. vs. FL   This is intriguing to me.  Florida was able to knock off Florida St. on their home field yesterday.

I feel Michigan had their chance to knock off Ohio St. during the regular season and they didn't get the job done.  Like my Bears this afternoon vs. New England.  You either execute or you don't, and both teams didn't in crunch time.  I would have Michigan in a big bowl game, just not the Nat'l Championship game.

For the record, I would somehow find a way to get a playoff format to decide the Division I Nat'l Championship and get rid of the BCS.  I have my own abbreviation for BCS (get the drift) and think that there are nothing but problems with that cpu system.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 26, 2006, 10:59:47 PM
jaybird,  the BCS has flaws obviously, but look at it this way if u will.

The computers hold no bias, like voters do.  It takes into consideration your strength of schedule which voters do, but a very limited extent.  You heard all the "experts" which most are voters say, Mich's loss is better than USC's loss.  That is a terrible way to assess teams.  The computers essentially create an average of how good ure team is.  I have no clue why where are 6 of them and what the difference is between the 6.  There is no weight on the date of ure loss, whether it be in sept. or nov.  I think the voters screw this whole thing up to be honest.  It sounds dumb to decided a game based on a computer but it makes great sense, but again it does need to be tweaked.

formerd3db
The fact that the big ten schedules softly does not make me have any sympath for michigan.  Imagine if they would have schedule a team like, LSU, oklahoma, cal....something along those lines then i would have great respect.  You cant schedule softies, lose all but one game, and then make it.  You must schedule tough and take that chance, it worked out for USC pretty well.

Ok, onto the playoff thing.  I love March madness, i do.  I love the NFL playoffs and ne other playoffs, upsets are great.  BUT, Is it fair that if you wanted an 8 team playoff in college football lets say, that Louisville has the same chance as OSU or USC? cause thats what you'd be doing.  Or in the case this year, BOISE STATE?  There is a reason they arent not in the top 5 and undefeated. OSU or USC have earned the right to play(given USC wins vs. UCLA) based on being the best teams throughout the course of the year.  Louisville has not been 2 of the best teams, so they should not be given the same chance.  A playoff is unrewarding of the two teams who truly are the best.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 26, 2006, 11:22:41 PM
bu:
Playoffs would indeed solve the "problem" as best it could be solved because the title would be decided on the field.  Simply have the top rated teams play in the playoff system like the other divisions - even if you base it on the Top 25, that is still less than the 32 teams now used in DIII.  Similarly, even using the DIAA (now called DI Championship Series) and DII which has less playoff spots, there are still some teams left out, yet the title is still decided on the field.  As far as a Boise State type team, again any team that goes undefeated deserves a chance - no matter who you play, winning 11 or all 12 games now is extremely difficult and besides, those teams being in the Top 25 would be included in a playoff.  The bottom line is that a playoff at DI is not impossible - only politics and politics as to who controls the $ is holding it back and it would be the fairest way to determine the national champion i.e. on the field and not on the computers.  Again, IMO, as the other divisions have proven it works, there is no reason it would not for DI.  Of course, there will always be differing opinions on this and I guess we've "beaten this one into the ground"! ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 27, 2006, 08:11:11 AM
YES!!!!!

NCAA D-I needs playoffs, and if you don't think so then you have problems. 

This gives every team an equal chance to win the national championship, not just the "BCS bigboys".  Every other division in college uses a playoff, D-I AA, D-II, D-III, NAIA I and NAIA II all use a playoff and there is no controversy of the champion or co champions (which is probably one of the dumbest things I have ever witnessed in college football, 2003 I believe it was??).

Anyway, Boise St. is undefeated right now, sure they don't have a tough schedule but I think they need a chance to at least prove themselves that they aren't a joke.   Heres how it should be..........oh wow, just like EVERY OTHER DIVISION!!!

You win your conference you are in the playoffs.  Or in the case of split divisions (ACC, BIG 12, Conf. USA, Mid America, SEC) you take the winners of each section, they play each other and that team represents their conference.  Or since there are only 12 conferences in D-I football as opposed to 27 in D-III (not including IND), you could take both winners from the split divisions, the playoffs definately wouldn't take as long.   And of course there will be some at large bids as well.  Come on, what would be more exciting then D-I football playoffs. 

"But Baseman, what about the bowl games"?  Personally I think bowl games are just plain stupid, but you can still have bowl games.  Since the only reason there are bowl games is because of money, those companies can sponsor certain games of the playoffs.  The championship game can have whatever name (Rose, orange, etc...)  along with the semifinal games and so on.

Boohoo, so some powerhouse teams may be out in the first round, it happens in basketball and it should happen in football as well.   Middle Tennessee St. could play the best football of their lives in the playoffs and beat USC, too bad so sad.   I am just tired of every year their being a controversy over who is #1 and #2, MAKE THEM GET THROUGH A BRACKET FOR IT!!!!  Relying on computers as to who plays for the national championship is a joke.

And let's face it, some 6-6 teams will be in bowl games this year......wow, you are in the San Diego Credit Union Poinsetta bowl, give me a break, make them play for something.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CU Alum on November 27, 2006, 10:44:16 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 27, 2006, 08:11:11 AM

MAKE THEM GET THROUGH A BRACKET FOR IT!!!!  Relying on computers as to who plays for the national championship is a joke.

And let's face it, some 6-6 teams will be in bowl games this year......wow, you are in the San Diego Credit Union Poinsetta bowl, give me a break, make them play for something.

well said -- 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 27, 2006, 10:55:02 AM
Wow did I spark a convo and I am glad I did...any karma points awarded fellas? Anyways, the only reason I said I would of loved to see an OSU and U of M rematch is because I am a Big Ten fan and it was a hell of a game...no other reason. As for this BCS crap, I think everyone overlooks the favoritism. And I am going to jump on USC and use Notre Dame as an example even though it doesn't matter now because we know USC is the better team this year :-\. ND lost to #11 Michigan earlier in the year and dropped 10 spots....10 SPOTS!!! Now if you ask me, that is ridiculous compared to USC losing to Oregon St. (not a good team compared to ND, U of M and USC) and only dropping I think 2-3 spots. In my opinion, they should of dropped way more than that as it seemed every other team that lost dropped a fair amount. As for D-1 going to playoffs, that would be sweet. No arguements at all about who would be the best team, handle everything on the field like men and not look at a stupid computer ranking. My prediction now, USC will beat UCLA in a nailbiter because USC's heads will be filled with air but still pull one out. Then, they go to the National Championship and just get beat by OSU because OSU is one of the respectable Big Ten schools and will represent the conference well.

Your friend,
Marcus J. Ellwood

P.S. I am glad to finally see everyone contributing in a convo, this board looks good now...even though we arent talking D-3 football. ;D

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 27, 2006, 10:56:49 AM
Now that I look at the karma, why the hell did I get -2 again??? Can someone man up and let me know why I got -2? I really didn't care at first but now it is getting stupid. I agree with Jaybird, looks like damn golf scores on here...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 27, 2006, 11:25:59 AM
BUFan- I agree that the cpu holds no bias, but I agree with formerd3db that the Nat'l Championship game/contenders should be "on the field" and not on a disk. The old timers never had computers and still were able to fight for and decide a Nat'l Champion. 
This is partly why I LOVE the D-3 playoffs and NCAA Basketball Tournaments (at any level).  You get a #15 seed knocking off a #2 seed, and to see the joy on the #15 seeds faces is worth a million dollars.

While I don't think it would be impossible for D-1 to go into a playoff system, I do think there are a lot of obstacles that would have to be avoided.  First and foremost $$.  Do you know how much money is invested by corporate America for these bowls?  Fed Ex Orange Bowl, Nokia Sugar Bowl, Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, etc.  these companies invest oodles of $$ for these games and would hate to see their game(s) disappear.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2006, 12:46:56 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on November 25, 2006, 11:20:34 PM
I hope to see a rematch of OSU and U of M...just a little something to pep this board up other than sucking CUW weiner all day long right? ;D

Perhaps some people are still reading this post for the first time and aren't a fan of your verbage.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 2minuteO on November 27, 2006, 01:20:05 PM
good call pat
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 27, 2006, 01:34:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2006, 12:46:56 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on November 25, 2006, 11:20:34 PM
I hope to see a rematch of OSU and U of M...just a little something to pep this board up other than sucking CUW weiner all day long right? ;D

Perhaps some people are still reading this post for the first time and aren't a fan of your verbage.

My apologies then...i totally forgot that i wrote that. But honestly, i don't think there are ever karma points awarded on this board and it blows. Oh, hi 2minuteO...i am glad you agree with Pat I do too, I apologize to you also I guess. ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 27, 2006, 02:38:42 PM
Jaybird-

THE WHOLE POINT OF BOWL GAMES....$$$, I agree with you yes.

So I said they could name the playoff games for bowls.  Maybe a semifinal game being sponsored by Tostitos, then the championship game being sponsored by Nokia or something like that.  First round games being sponsored by "smaller" companies like the San Diego Credit Union.

IT CAN BE DONE!!!!!

I am glad we all agree on that along with probably 98% of this country.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 27, 2006, 04:40:46 PM
My guiding phrase is "if there is a will, there is a way"  and anything can be accomplished.  I would love to see a D-1 Nat'l Tournament to decide the football champion.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 27, 2006, 05:10:41 PM
Using computers is not a joke.  If you wanna take the top 4 teams and do a playoff, I can see that, no arguments.  But someone suggested every conference winner??  Ok, lets see Troy or Middle Tennessee St from the Sunbelt, great you get USC first round, good luck.  They dont deserve a chance because they are not one of the best teams.  I think you agree with me that MTSU is not one of the best teams in the nation so why do the deserve a chance?  The arguments you hear about who got snubbed from D3 or D2 are only as publicized as the sive of the event.  If there was a playoff in D1 it would be HUGE debate/controversey whatever, there would be snubbed teams and such.  The general public doesnt know that cortland state didnt make it.. but if LSU got snubbed??? then it would be something to talk about.  The BCS gives you the two top teams in the nation whether you like it or not.  If USC loses on sat. and Mich is number two, fine, then thy are the top 2, if florida jumps them(doubtful) then they are the top 2.  It gives you the top 2 teams, which is its purpose.

Again i love that 15 seed over 2 as suggested by someone, I really do.  But is it the absolute BEST way to dtermine the best team throughout the regular season?  Other wise, by having a playoff what ure saying is, its ok to lose a game or 2.  I want my national championship game to have 2 teams who have sustained a consistent level of play throughout the year, not 2 teams that are just "hot" at the moment.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 27, 2006, 05:37:53 PM
BUFan, if you are a #2 seed and you can't beat a #15, then you don't deserve a chance to dive deeper into the playoffs, because you are only as good as your last win.  IMO, the less CPU involvement the better, and the more head-head on the field battles, the better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 27, 2006, 05:41:27 PM
What if you had this scenario

Winner of Big 10 vs. Winner of Pac 10
Winner of SEC  vs. Winner of ACC
Winner of Big East vs. Winner of the WAC MTN
Winner of WAC  vs. Winner of the Big 12
Winner of the Sun Belt vs. _______ a highly ranked, good record #2 team

The Winners advance and the losers are done.  As somebody said earlier, this would not be very difficult to arrange but you have $$ issues, time too.  As much as I wouldn't mind seeing the football season extended, a Tournament format would lengten the football season by 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 27, 2006, 07:03:10 PM
Bufan-

Thats how brackets work, the top ranked teams plays the low ranked teams, hence the #16 seed playing the #1 seed in the basketball bracket, so then do you have a problem with that?

What if they used computers in basketball too?

Hey, how about we tell George Mason that since they are an 11th seed they don't deserve to play the top teams in the nation and won't have a chance to play. (went on to the final four)

EVERYONE DESERVES A CHANCE!!!

If USC is so good, they can prove it by making it through the bracket to the national championship, if not then they don't deserve to be there.........period.

And like I said there are only 12 conferences in D-I A football, only 12 teams.  Guarantee the season would be over before the 1st of January.  So they can't use the excuse of taking too long.  And Jaybird, some teams will be sitting around for longer then 2-3 weeks waiting for their bowl game anyhow

I like your bracket scenario though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 27, 2006, 10:10:50 PM
baseman

I understand how brackets work and I do agree that the season would actually be slightly shorter if there were a playoff.  The time off is ridiculous, I think we all can agree.  The comparison of basketball and football is apples to oranges.  You think Oral Roberts football(dont know if they even have it) would beat Kansas football?  Basketball has a lot of parity in it as you can see with Butler beating Tennessee and Gonzaga.  Would Butler's winless football team beat Tennessee football? Come on.  So that is why that comparison is not valid in my opinion.  And there are so many D-1 basketball teams that I do feel you need more teams in the post season.  The NCAA is not in favor of the higher ranked teams, it is built for upsets.  I dont wanna get into it too much, but i thinkwe are in somewhat agreement that the higher seeds are at a disadvantage in most cases.

That aside, but we are in agreement that given USC wins against UCLA, we will see the best two teams in the nation playing in Glendale...if you answered yes then the system has worked.  We have the two best teams playing for the nat'l champ., thats the goal


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 27, 2006, 10:32:36 PM
I am going to have to disagree because I don't think USC is the second best team out there. I still think U of M is the better team and I promise you, I can't stand U of M so this isn't out of favoritism...I am a ND fan and have a huge grudge on both teams. U of M loses to #1, USC loses to Oregon St.

Does nobody think U of M would beat USC?

Besides that, whoever ends up playing OSU is going to get beat and I even feel like crap for saying that because they embarrassed ND last year in their bowl game (0 for 3 :-[).

Playoffs would be a great idea and would bring way more excitement to D-1 football. Baseman and Jaybird, you should team up and go figure something out...you can do it.haha.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 27, 2006, 10:50:48 PM
bufan:
It is legit to compare football to basketball as far as the playoffs.  So what if one team is "hot" at the moment and the other not?  That's what it's all about.  Just because one team is in the overall aspects better than another team, means nothing.  Look at this last year, for example in the NHL, MLB and the NBA with all the Detroit teams - record wise, they clearly were the best in the leagues; unfortunately, they hit a slump at playoff time.  Do you seriously think that the other teams that beat them didn't deserve the chance and do not consider themselves worthy of the title of champs?  Ridiculous to think otherwise, IMO.  Same with collegiate football - you take a chance, play the game on the field and whatever happens, happens.  If you win, you played better and are the champ - that's how it works. ;D 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 28, 2006, 01:19:08 AM
Ok im gonna steal Bob Davie's thought, but it is very valid.  If there was a playoff, whether it be 4 teams, 8 teams, 16..it is very safe to say Michigan and Ohio State would be in.  We will all agree.  What do teams do when they know they are in the playoffs?  They rest there starters.  So thats what we would have likely seen in the Mich-OSU game.  Wouldnt have been much  of a game if that was the case.  Aside from being a rivalry game, that game was so huge because of what was at stake, because of the BCS system that gave was excitement times 100.  If there was a playoff it would have been another chapter in their rivalry, yes, and still exciting, but not near was exciting as it was because they would both be in the playoffs anyways.  The game was given additional meaning because of what was at stake.

You may argue that well they had the Big Ten Championship to play for.  Yes they did, but if a national championship is at stake, is the big ten title more important?

formerd3db, thats the problem, its all about a team getting hot. And again the comparison is unfair to pro sports.  I believe in the Eastern conference of the NBA there was a team under .500 in the playoffs(within the last couple years or so)  ARE YOU KIDDING? your telling me they deserve a chance.. the format is what it is, yes, but tell me ure honest feeling about that.

Marcus- if ure argument is who U OF M and USC lost too, my argument is again, who they beat.  Michigan beat nobody, they embarrassed ND(and until Brady Quinn wins a big game, im still not a believer), which USC did as well. They beat central michigan and ball st.  And ill be nice and say the beat Wis. who is GARBAGE. yes Garbage.  USC has beat Ark, Neb, Cal, and lost to Oreg. st who is now 24th in the BCS...so apparently voters think something of them.  IF YOUR GOING TO COMPARE LOSSES YOU MUST COMPARE WINS

Hey i can defend man to man, but i can go zone too..I will argue this as long as you'd like.  Everyone has their opinion on who is best or second best and so on.  The bottom line is so do these voters.  I dont want there opinions and bias, cause they do the same thing we are doing, sitting around deciding who is best.  I want a clear cut no. 1 and no. 2.

And no U of M most certainly would not beat USC.  Michigan gave up 500 yds of offense, forced 3 turnovers and still lost to Ohio State. IF USC allows 500 yards to OSU I will send you a gift certificate to ure favorite restaurant.  And what makes everyone thing that this rematch, if it were to happen would be like the first game??  I dont think Texas quite had 500 yds last year, maybe they did..not sure  I know vince young had over 450 himself cause he is absurd...but ne ways USC's defense is statistically better than last year, and OSU's offense is no where near what Texas's was.

I am a buckeye fan, i live in ohio, but i wouldnt be so sure that USC would lose for sure.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 28, 2006, 09:46:03 AM
If Michigan was the better/best team out there, then they would have taken care of business the 1st time and beat Ohio St.  Ohio St. beat them fair and square, and IMO I don't think Michigan deserves a second chance to knock off OSU, when there is an equally strong opponent out there. (USC)

BUFan-- Oral Roberts does not have a football team, but like Wichita St.  they did have a fb team at one time in their history.  Wichita St. discontinued their football after that tragedy (understandable), but I do think if they were to start up a football team again, they could create a nice rivalry with Illinois St., SW Missouri St., SIU, etc.

NHL- 8 teams total 16 NBA 8 teams total 16  NFL  16 total (I believe)

This is a never ending debate that is always going to be blockaded by corporate america because the $$ is the underlying factor here.

Last thing,  I see Northern Illinois is most likely going to the Pointsettia Bowl.  Pointsettia Bowl?  "What's next, rabbies shots for the Easter Bunny?"

Pointsettia Bowl, International Bowl, Insight. Com Bowl, c'mon we could do with 6-7 bowls total.
Rose,Orange,Fiesta,Sugar, Holiday, Alamo, Cotton, and perhaps 1-2 more.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 28, 2006, 10:56:54 AM
bufan:
No way is the comparison unfair to pro sports.  The game is played on the court and on the field regardless of level.  And yes, a lower tier team deserves the same chance as anyone else, especially if they win the conference tournaments, like so many of the conferences at all levels have gone through.  Since the system is currently set up that way, that's, of course, why there are at-large bids - to provide for the better teams who won the regular season final, but faltered in the conference tournament and/or for the football playoffs in college; of course at the pro level the wild-card slots.  While you are right in the the majority of times the better team will win, by your logic, why even then play the games?  The top 2-4 teams in the nation, then can have their alleged claims as to who was best; and... in the same sense that we, at times, make rationalizations for a loss i.e. should of, could have, what if, et al, the same guess work speculation is applied to who's "opinion" is the better team, bias included; just like we've seen yesterday and today.  You don't think any of the top 4 or 5 teams (for that matter the top 10 teams at least) in DI currently don't deserve a shot at chance at the national championship? Let them sort it out on the field, then there's no question, plain and simple AND it doesn't matter if your team is in reality the better team.  If you don't play good enough at all times to win the game(s), you don't win the championship.  Having an "off day", hitting a slump at playoff time is just part of life, like anything else.  Otherwise, no point to having any playoffs at any level, which, of course, I disagree with.  But then, what do I know? ;D 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 28, 2006, 05:10:13 PM
Everyone is talking about D-1 playoffs here so here is my take....


I think there still should be the BCS system.  However, I think those that make the BCS games should be the teams that make the D-1 playoffs.  What I'm saying is that the top 8 teams according to the BCS make the "D-1 playoffs".  This also will cut back on the time that the BCS teams wait to play thier game according to the current format.  Someone said before the playoff games can be sponsored by the companies of the big time bowls, and I agree.  Each playoff game can still be called a bowl game, such as the Sugar Bowl, Coton Bowl, you get my drift.  And as the BCS does now, the title game can be rotated, Rose Bowl one year, Sugar Bowl next year, you know how it works.  As for the rest of the teams not in the top 8, I still think they should play thier bowl games as normal. 

I dont know what many people will think of this idea, but I think this is a very feasable way of deciding a Nat'l Champ, top 8 teams according to the BCS are in a playoff and the other "bowl teams" still play their bowl games.  Anyways, thats my input, let me know what you guys think.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 28, 2006, 07:17:39 PM
formerd3db

You just said "If you don't play good enough at all times to win the game(s), you don't win the championship."  Would this include the regular season?  In BCS terms, good enough is numbr 1 and number 2.  All other 117 d-1 teams arent good enough.  I want the best two teams playing in my championship game.

This may slightly sound like a contradiction but follow me.  Im believe that Oral Roberts is a better basketball team than Kansas and I know you guys will disagree with me, but all i have to go off of is head-to-head play.  With that said, If there was a playoff and Louisville beat OSU(just an example of teams in the top 8)  I have to believe Louisville is better.  Where im coming from is, I dont it to come to that.  You play the regular season which I believe should mean everything.

If you had to pick the best 2 teams in baseball in the national league and american leauge at the end of the 162-game schedule...you would not have selected the St. Louis Cardinals, but the playoff format worked out for them and thats great, they proved it.  So I think what we would see is that if a playoff format were installed in college d-1 football, and then we could theoretically play a game with the current format...we would get 2 different winners.

The best alternative ive heard for this is as follows.  If there is no clear cut number 1(like OSU this season) then a plus 1 game is installed.  You would play all the bowl games as we see them now...then the computers and voters would do there thing one more time and whoever is spit out at 1 and 2, would play another game.

ALSO,  you talk about teams having chances to extend there season, do u realize what you would do even if u had a 32 team playoff??? the other 32 teams season in bowl games would be over.  There are 64 teams in bowl games(there about) and if u just eliminated half the bowls then you've ended all these seasons short.  And your talking about an 16 team playoff? youve just ended 48 schools post season opportunites.  talk about not having a chance.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 28, 2006, 08:16:15 PM
bu:
I realize what you are saying, however, ...  ;DThe systems are already in place for determining conference champions both in basketball and football and we're talking about the DI playoffs (excluding the DIAA schools).  The system is already in place for rating the Top 25 teams; I believe it could be done.  Again, it's done in all the other divisions for football and you have about triple the number of schools in DIII than you have in DI.  Overall, though, I think they will eventually develop some type of DI playoff system but exactly when and what that will be is anyone's guess.  It will be interesting to see what, if anything pans out. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 28, 2006, 09:40:02 PM
Meanwhile, what is going on at Benedictine in terms of next year (2007's) recruits.  Also, is Sergo officially graduated/done or is there still debate over whether or not he is returning?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 28, 2006, 09:40:39 PM
Cougswillwin-

I do love that idea, you still have the BCS people happy plus the people who want playoffs, that's pretty good.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 28, 2006, 11:10:28 PM
Yeah its a never ending thing and i realize im in the minority, but im trying to fend you guys off! HAHA jk.  Ive actually heard the reasons for why there isnt a playoff in college football at the D1 level.  According to Bill Curry, not sure if you all are familiar with him.  But he has credentials and his response when asked was, obviously money.  1.  The Bowl Committees's have so much power that there is zero chance of them just giving it up to make the people who want a playoff happy.  The second reason I found quite interesting.  2.  The second issue, which I dont agree with is that the rosters for major D-1 programs is substantially smaller than other levels because there are limited scholarships available and to go through a playoff would imply injuries and such.  Something to that effect though.  Also he said that they dont want the kids to miss school from a playoff which could have been the dumbest thing ive heard.  Because just think of al the other level of football and the school they miss and they have no problem doing a playoff.  So its money as we stated and that reason i dont like.

Cougswill win

yeah that is an idea I like as well if I were to compromise.  The only issue is like who gets in, conference winners or all at large teams? So there is that area of debate but the idea is solid.

A crazy idea I had was this.  I dont like the way the conference are as of now.  I know ND has been IND but just put them in the Big Ten. give them 12 teams, have a championship game.  I dont like how half the power conf. have a champ game, and half dont.  It can either hurt u, or help you when it comes to the BCS.  I think they should all have a champ game, or none of them.  Throw two more teams in the Pac 10, like boise st and nevada? just an idea.  And the same with the Big east.  I think if they added one more team to D1 have 10 conferences of 12 teams.  I know it will never work and its a stretch, but it makes sense to me at least.  Kinda crazy but whatever
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on November 28, 2006, 11:20:21 PM
       What a season that we had this year in the IBFC!!!! Every team from top to bottom was competitive and well coached this year. I want to first say congrats to all of the All conference players this year, ALL WERE DESERVING!! I would like to say i have tremendous respect for JR Harriel, he balled this year and every post season award he will get, he is very deserving for it. Hats Off to ya.
      I also have respect for John Mask from CUW and Gillespe, man...you guys brung it every play and were awesome athletes!!! That game sophomore year will stick in my memory for a long time. Mask, you and Poe from Greenville, probably the best O-lineman that i have faced. But mask was the key to alot of CUW runningbacks of the past...Simmon...Parker....Mills...and now gillespse!!  Langston.... You are one hell of an athlete and i wish you luck in whatever you do in the future!!!
        As far as Lakeland is concerned...You know as well as anyone, I hated you all but let me say this i do respect the athletes on those teams and this team!!! Untill this year i never said anything to there coach but let me say this Coach Z is one CLASS ACT guy.....and i wil definitly hold ya up to what was said in after our game!! As far as Wagner is concerned.....Well the reason why i was saying the "Pain Train," so much was bc of the comments in the pre season!!! Listen man you are a great player...i watched ya a couple times....Let those pad talk boy..Trust me eveything will fall into place!!I got respect for ya!!
        BU, You guys have definitley came ways...but i had alot of respect for joe Sergio...That boy can ball and he was a hustler..
      Greenville......You all had a squad this year.......Poe, you are a large person...hahaha but you sure are good man....Although i liked ya when you played gaurd man!! HAHA but JR i hope we stay in contact through the years...if i ever coach you got a job wit me!!! The QB from greenville....Kid you got the stuff!!! Just keep it up and success will be there for ya!!
     CIC and EC....... I got alot of respect for Hermies and the the runningback from Concordia, Ill...that boy runs hard!!!
     AU...I loved playing against your O-LINE...I had alot of fun at those games...you guys didnt play dirty but played to the whistle every play.... Hornung sorry about whatevery happened but you are great soo i got respect there as well as i thought Folliard was nice!!!

    Now as far as Mac is concerned... Coach McCray was a great coach and a great person...I have the UPMOST RESPECT for him and Coach Smith my D-Coordinator!! There was one thing we did year in and year out and that was play hard every play of the game....That was instilled in us...There was alot of off the field distractions that prior and during the season that didnt help us a whole bit but we stuck it out and walked off knowing we gave it our all every game!!! let me say this i thought #10 Ballerino from Lake Mary got shafty his senior year but he was the best reciever i seen since i been the this conference!!! Peter Ereg...Say what you want but that kid HAS HEART!!! Scotty Gregory...My bash Brother...That kid if returns after knee surgeury, WILL BE THE BEST Lindbackery in the conference.. and to the rest of my teammates...I love ya and i am honored and proud to call you guys brothers over the years and for the rest of my life you guys will be my brothers forever!!! I respect all of my teammates from the past and present!!!

   Now as far as me...I am hoping i will have an opportunity somewhere at any level bc i feel i still has some left and especially with the right training!! But if all else fails i got my DEGREE!!! I want to say i had alot of fun playing in this conference and i will FOREVER have memories about everygame that i played in,in the IBFC!!! Know that all the memories of all the on the field things that we all say and do are going to be stories later in life!!!! Everyone who played against me knows what i am talking about!!! Talking was my game....but my actions followed!! My mermorable games where Sophomore year against CUW at CUW and 28-24..That was a awesome game...and Lakeland last year...at lakeland!! But i enjoyed playing every team!!! Good luck to all athletes...and i will drop a post from here and there every once in a while so.... Adios!!!!

Larry Pirollo #9 MacMurray Football

P.S- Maddog....your the man in my book!! HAHA love the post!!

P.S.S- Pat i was sad to see that i got no love from ya!!! haha but you did good with this web site!!


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 28, 2006, 11:51:53 PM
bufan:
No worries mate!  We're all friends here just discussion the various options on various topics with (sometimes) varying opinions. ;) Yes, Bill Curry, a class coach/commentator (you probably know this but he was a great player in college (SEC, GA Tech I believe), then NFL with the Packers, then a longtime SEC coach at GA Tech, Alabama and ended his coaching career at KY before becoming a commentator).  He is indeed right about the $ regarding the bowl committees, which I think almost everyone else agrees with that too.  However, I agree with you about disagreeing with his #2 assertion.  I don't believe that is valid for the exact same reasons you state about DIII (and those people who would agree with his #2 would really try to argue that DI programs would be more concerned about academics in that particular situation than DIII??? ??? ;D I think not!  DIII is the model for that - and it has been proven that it works for the student-athletes (of course, there are a few hold-outs such as the NESCAC in DIII that refuse to accept that (or perhaps better said choose not to which is their perogative;D...but that is another story!  Anyway, thanks for the discussion on this.

Also, the idea for ND to join the Big Ten (or even the Big East) in the past has been presented by some.  However, it is ND themselves who wish to remain independent, for reasons of having their own autonomy in scheduling opponents as well as the big $ television contracts which they can negotiate on their own.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 29, 2006, 03:13:28 AM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on November 28, 2006, 11:20:21 PM
P.S.S- Pat i was sad to see that i got no love from ya!!! haha but you did good with this web site!!

Thanks. No love in what?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 29, 2006, 10:06:25 AM
Sergio is not going to graduate this year.  He loves college.  Will he return next year?  Yes.  Joey, has been lifting weights at an alarming rate.  His weight is up around 230ish around 6% body fat.  Recruits are plentiful at BU. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on November 29, 2006, 11:52:08 AM
Only that it's not a legitimate All-American team, that's all.

I'm not going to pass along that list. It's misleading to label that many kids "All-Americans."

When you said this about my all american stuff!! I understand that...but its still an honor that i will be proud of..youknow
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 29, 2006, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: bufan on November 28, 2006, 11:10:28 PM

Cougswill win

yeah that is an idea I like as well if I were to compromise.  The only issue is like who gets in, conference winners or all at large teams? So there is that area of debate but the idea is solid.



The teams that would get into the "playoffs" would be the top 8 in the BCS poll, regardless of how many teams from one conference make it.  My whole philosophy for this is that the best 8 teams in the country make the "BCS playoffs".  

P.S. I copywrighted the name "BCS playoffs" and this is my idea, so when they implement the "BCS playoffs" I better get all the credit...You got that Pat?   8)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 29, 2006, 11:58:45 AM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on November 29, 2006, 11:52:08 AM
Only that it's not a legitimate All-American team, that's all.

I'm not going to pass along that list. It's misleading to label that many kids "All-Americans."

When you said this about my all american stuff!! I understand that...but its still an honor that i will be proud of..youknow

Gotcha. Well, sorry man, but the numbers don't lie. Six times as many kids on that team as any other preseason All-American team. Not a very exclusive club.   :-\
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ptownhero on November 29, 2006, 01:13:51 PM
Twisted
I thought you were an AU alumni.  You are talking like you are a BU alumni and sound like you have no respect for AU anymore.  Maybe you should just room with Sergio and stay over there because hes only been there for about 12 years. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on November 29, 2006, 02:40:27 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on November 28, 2006, 11:20:21 PM
       I would like to say i have tremendous respect for JR Harriel, he balled this year and every post season award he will get, he is very deserving for it. Hats Off to ya.
     
       JR i hope we stay in contact through the years...if i ever coach you got a job wit me!!!


First I would like you say YOU ARE A BEAST regardless of what awards you recieve...it was a honor playing against you and the dawgs, you already know how much respect I have for you.  Far as post season awards, not gonna lie...they will be great, but really dont mean much to me (may look nice to add to my collection). 

Far as staying in touch...you got my cell # hit me up.  I was thinking we could kick it for Spring Break or somethin, maybe even sooner. 

Just an idea L.P. : It would be nice if we could play on the same team...think about it. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on November 29, 2006, 04:45:45 PM
While I think Sergo is a great athlete, (for Benedictine's sake) I hope they don't rely on him as being a 1 man arsenal.  IBC has North Central and Elmhurst on their 2007 slate that just dismantled them this year.  For them to compete with these boys (along with the Lakelands, CUW's, Mac's etc.) they need to start building a solid D/O line and put together some cohesiveness.  You could have 1 All American but if the other 10 guys are just so-so, then what do you have? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on November 29, 2006, 07:50:09 PM
Just an idea L.P. : It would be nice if we could play on the same team...think about it.


THAT WOULD BE NUTS!! Not one team could run on us man!! and pass the ball..come on it would be curtains!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 30, 2006, 10:04:02 AM
Ptownhero... Danny Mac,

I love the Spartans.  People ask about a player and I know the answers.  I help out when I can.  I will not be rooming with Joey but I do see/talk with him often enough to know he is getting his weight up.  Please explain what was disrespectful about my last post.  I state facts.  He's swoll, they have a lot of kids visiting.  Have off season workouts gotten started yet?  AU has a tremedous strength and conditioning coach.  Former All-American @ Stevens Point, Jason Wagner.  Wagner is sub-contracted out from ATI and is going great things with young talent.  Keep up the good work Wags.  Have a great off season Spartans. 

The Truth
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ptownhero on November 30, 2006, 01:08:36 PM
Twisted

I dont disrespect you i disrespect the things you were saying about AU throughout the year.  We knew it was going to be a struggle when we lost are starting quarterback, a great linebacker, tight end, one of our top recievers, and another reciever for 4 games.  All year you bashed us on how we werent the AU of old when we only had 8 seniors and maybe 10 juniors at the most.  And not all of these players played.  The coaching staff did great things when i was here.  My freshman class had 50 kids in it and we ended with 8.  They all left while coach scott was here after my freshman year.  I dont know how you can compare any AU team of old to now because they never accomplished anything that the teams I played on didnt.  They never beat any big time schools and never went to playoffs and won a game either.  The old teams might have played them close but they still lost and thats all that matters.  But i have no problem with you I was getting very angry throughout the year to hear AU alumni bash this team when they should know what we went through this year.  Are team made great strides and we have some great young players coming back.  If these kids stick around with all the stupid rules on campus being put in place they will be a solid team next year and will contend for confernce champs just like AU does every year. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on November 30, 2006, 01:51:26 PM
P-town hero~
Danny, your right, I'm wrong.  AU has competed for a confrence title the past two seasons.  Your classes acomplishments are as impressive if not more then my classes.  Scores do not matter, W's and L's.  Great points.  Sorry, if I was disrespectful throughout the season.  I feel like my opinions were fair.  I was not aware of all the injuries.  Injuries are part of the game, but, geewiz, our team suffered a lot of them. 

Best to you and the AU family,

Ollie Twist
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on November 30, 2006, 03:02:06 PM
Just out of curiousity, what new rules are being added to the Aurora campus that would make kids even think about quitting the team? I only ask this because I know CUC can be very strict at times with the world's dumbest rules (THIS IS COLLEGE!!!) and also has a sharp eye out for their athletes which is a very large reason athletics does not succeed besides the huge amount of tuition that needs to be paid :-\.


As a Notre Dame fan, I always dreamed of them joining the Big Ten being a midwest guy...it would be sweet. Would Wiess ever have a decision on this or anything to do with the decision or would that just be up to the university itself?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ptownhero on November 30, 2006, 04:00:36 PM
The rules on campus are not going to make the kids quit.  They are making it hard for students to live on campus.  The are pushing all of thier issues that happen on campus off campus.  If caught drinking during season or offseason your first offense is a warning and a $100 fine.  Second offense is a suspension of 10% of your games and third offense is 20% of games and fourth is your done.  Every time you are caught the fine goes up dramatically.  And you have to take some classes and i believe some communtity service.  The community service and classes i have no problem with but the fine is a little harsh.  College students cant really afford that.  If caught in the offseason everything carries over into the next year.  The students not in sports pay the fine and have to take classes.  And if you are 21 and  come to campus with alcohol on your breath and caught you are also guilty and pay the consequences i mentioned above. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 30, 2006, 07:14:42 PM
Go on and tell it brotha


Quote from: ptownhero on November 30, 2006, 01:08:36 PM
Twisted

I dont disrespect you i disrespect the things you were saying about AU throughout the year.  We knew it was going to be a struggle when we lost are starting quarterback, a great linebacker, tight end, one of our top recievers, and another reciever for 4 games.  All year you bashed us on how we werent the AU of old when we only had 8 seniors and maybe 10 juniors at the most.  And not all of these players played.  The coaching staff did great things when i was here.  My freshman class had 50 kids in it and we ended with 8.  They all left while coach scott was here after my freshman year.  I dont know how you can compare any AU team of old to now because they never accomplished anything that the teams I played on didnt.  They never beat any big time schools and never went to playoffs and won a game either.  The old teams might have played them close but they still lost and thats all that matters.  But i have no problem with you I was getting very angry throughout the year to hear AU alumni bash this team when they should know what we went through this year.  Are team made great strides and we have some great young players coming back.  If these kids stick around with all the stupid rules on campus being put in place they will be a solid team next year and will contend for confernce champs just like AU does every year. 

It was a rough year for the spartans
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 02, 2006, 09:56:24 PM
Thank you to UCLA and haha to USC, have fun NOT playing for the national championship.

Now thats all I need is for Florida not to get the respect they deserve and the rematch will happen. If it does, I can't wait for people to whine about how it is a big ten championship.

Those rules for AU sound harsh all around. You can't go off campus to a bar (when 21) and come back with alcohol on your breath? That will soon make recruiting hard whether anyone thinks so or not, kids these days don't like those types of rules and even kids in high school are throwing parties and drinking heavily...it wasn't even like that when I was in high school but seeing my little bros in high school and hearing about it "wows" me. Good luck to AU with those rules and may they work well for the university.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 02, 2006, 10:09:38 PM
If the BCS spits out Michigan number 2, then i cannot argue it.  And everyone will be very disappointed when it is not a good game, or as good as you all expect.  There is no reason to believe that we will c the same game like we did earlier.  I didnt think the first game was all that great, good, but not great.  If florida gets in, fine.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 03, 2006, 08:05:34 AM
Piroll09:

                                     I`m proud of you !!
  You`ll get the paper ( degree) and off  you go. Good luck to ya.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 03, 2006, 08:21:53 AM
Quote from: midwestfb on November 22, 2006, 03:41:49 PM
Quote from: aufb05 on November 22, 2006, 09:50:24 AM
Thanks Gomer-

How does it work - I wanna give out some love.

11 do I hear 12 ;D

You gain karma power on your 200th post. You're getting close. ;)

The purpose of karma  power was to give participants the ability to control the bahavior - positive power to people with worthwhile posts and negative karma if you just post nonsense. On some boards that use the same message board software, you lose your ability to post for some duration (or forever) if your karma level sinks too low.



   I left the "200" thing out to see if you were watching.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 03, 2006, 08:56:34 AM
 Maddog:
       If you`ve gone "under-ground" the sun will shine again on the Cheese
      Heads from Lakeland...............maybe.
      This post is for another reason. To wish you and yours a Merry
      Christmas or Happy Holidays ( have to be politically correct) 
      It`s been fun "toying' with you this year as it has been in the past.
      Nothing makes me smile more than when you get all blown out of
     shape about something i said about your babby cheese heads.
       Your retort is always welcomed.  Lame but welcomed. :D
     
    To the rest of the board (early or not)  hope you all have a Merry
    Christmas or a Happy Holiday Season, again to be politically correct.

    One last comment, this board has been very civil this year and for that all
    should be commended.
       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 03, 2006, 10:41:31 AM
Mich gets the #2 spot......This time they beat Ohio State
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 03, 2006, 08:15:46 PM
I stand corrected.........Lets Go GATORS beat OSU......Take 'Em Out
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 03, 2006, 08:36:32 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 03, 2006, 08:15:46 PM
I stand corrected.........Lets Go GATORS beat OSU......Take 'Em Out

Nah, as a diehard Wolverine fan I want OSU to beat Florida by 3-4 TDs!  THAT should shut up Urban Meyer as to who deserved to be in Glendale to face the Bucknuts! ;D

Then when UM kicks USC's ass (if UCLA could hold 'em to 9, UM might shut 'em out!) it will be clear to EVERYONE who the two best teams are.  And since the showdown was AT OSU, some of us will still be suggesting that #1 on a neutral field was MEEECHIGAN. :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 03, 2006, 08:58:49 PM
and again, another disappointment....let's go buckeyes, show everyone who is number 1 and why florida SHOULD NOT be number 2.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 03, 2006, 10:54:08 PM
Mr Ypsi-

  I think you were playfully saying that Michigan should shut out USC since UCLA held them to 9.  That logic is not very logical at all.  And while I will be rooting for OSU, they wont win by 3-4 TD's.  Florida has guys on scholarship too.  And many pro prospects. 
  I dont wanna hear anything about a neutral field.  You play the games on your schedule.
  Mind you its 50 days until the game practically(for OSU) so we will likely not see the same dominant team.  I know it sucks but thats the way it is.  If there is one thing Ive learned about football its that comparing scores means nothing at all.  Its all about matchups and adjustments.

My Bowl Selections, even though its early
OSU 33, Florida 24
Louisville 41, Wake Forest 35
LSU 27, ND 13
Oklahoma 34, Boise State 24
USC 28, Michigan 17
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 03, 2006, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: bufan on December 03, 2006, 10:54:08 PM
Mr Ypsi-

  I think you were playfully saying that Michigan should shut out USC since UCLA held them to 9.  That logic is not very logical at all.  And while I will be rooting for OSU, they wont win by 3-4 TD's.  Florida has guys on scholarship too.  And many pro prospects. 
  I dont wanna hear anything about a neutral field.  You play the games on your schedule.
  Mind you its 50 days until the game practically(for OSU) so we will likely not see the same dominant team.  I know it sucks but thats the way it is.  If there is one thing Ive learned about football its that comparing scores means nothing at all.  Its all about matchups and adjustments.

My Bowl Selections, even though its early
OSU 33, Florida 24
Louisville 41, Wake Forest 35
LSU 27, ND 13
Oklahoma 34, Boise State 24
USC 28, Michigan 17

You caught me being playful on the shutout, but not on the score - I see something more like UM 31, USC 10.  And, yes, despite being a buckeye hater, I see them beating Florida by 3-4 TDs.

Two other comments:

ND is in the BCS ONLY because of their sweetheart deal - I'd love to see them lose by 3-4 TDs.

While Boise State is in only because of the special rule about non-BCS conferences, I'd love to see them make a statement - Boise 41-Oklahoma 24.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 04, 2006, 08:32:53 AM
I agree about ND.  Im not quite sure why they get that deal.  And yes, I would also like to see them lose by 50 if it was possible
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 04, 2006, 11:10:24 AM
Hmmm, seems to be some controversy as to who #2 is, you know an easy way to fix that...............

A PLAYOFF!!!!!

AMAZING HOW THERE WOULD BE NO CONTROVERSY AT ALL!!!!!

I guarantee Michigan is wishing they had a playoff right now.

And just off the subject, I think OSUs basketball team is going to win the national championship as well.  Anyone see Oden play?  Amazing. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 04, 2006, 03:48:16 PM
Actually baseman201 a good majority of the experts on ESPN and such feel the BCS got it right and they see no controversey. And you also have failed to realize that Michigan and Florida were tied in the computers so it was the human voters that placed Florida in the game.  So blame them if you wanna point fingers.  Whether it is a playoff or not you will have controversey.  You would complain about seeding and such which would be voted by the same people who put Florida in the game.  There is no way to avoid controversey.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 04, 2006, 09:05:58 PM
its all crap...the only reason the humans voted for florida was because they didn't want to see a rematch. And whoever said the rematch would be as exciting as the first match is wrong...its a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP and a would be a statement maker for U of M, how would that not be an exciting game? Anyways, the only thing I agree with is that U of M shouldnt play for the championship because they did not win their conference and that completely contradicts my argument but oh well. The National Championship will be a high scoring game.

OSU- 35
Florida- 24
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bison22 on December 04, 2006, 09:10:28 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on December 04, 2006, 11:10:24 AM
Hmmm, seems to be some controversy as to who #2 is, you know an easy way to fix that...............

A PLAYOFF!!!!!

AMAZING HOW THERE WOULD BE NO CONTROVERSY AT ALL!!!!!

I guarantee Michigan is wishing they had a playoff right now.

And just off the subject, I think OSUs basketball team is going to win the national championship as well.  Anyone see Oden play?  Amazing. 


Couldn't we say that we had a playoff?   Beautiful thing about a single elimination tournament is that you don't  have to beat the same team twice.  So, maybe we had a playoff with Ohio St. beating Michigan, and Florida beating Arkansas.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 05, 2006, 12:43:38 AM
It would be awesome for a D1 playoff....they could keep the BCS poll to decide who gets in that way we are only debating the 8th 16th or 32nd seed...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on December 05, 2006, 04:51:30 PM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on November 29, 2006, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: bufan on November 28, 2006, 11:10:28 PM

Cougswill win

yeah that is an idea I like as well if I were to compromise.  The only issue is like who gets in, conference winners or all at large teams? So there is that area of debate but the idea is solid.



The teams that would get into the "playoffs" would be the top 8 in the BCS poll, regardless of how many teams from one conference make it.  My whole philosophy for this is that the best 8 teams in the country make the "BCS playoffs".  

P.S. I copywrighted the name "BCS playoffs" and this is my idea, so when they implement the "BCS playoffs" I better get all the credit...You got that Pat?   8)


See!! People like sotha sil are already trying to take my idea!!  >:(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 05, 2006, 06:24:11 PM
Bison, just to add to your point.  The weekend b4 Rutgers played WVU the BCS looked something like this.
1. OSU
2. Mich
3. Rutgers
4. Florida
5. USC
6. ND
7. WVU
8. Arkansas

I know this order is not exact BUT these were the TOP 8 teams at one point.  As you see they all played eachother in the last few weeks.  I understand it doesnt always work out this way but it did this year and I dont think this can be overlooked as some form of a playoff.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on December 05, 2006, 06:36:30 PM
PLAYOFFS??!!!!  We're talkin' bout playoffs! 
Playoffs would never work.  WHat a dumb idea.  d3, D2, D1aa, NFL, and High Schools across the nation can pull it off yet D1 college football shouldn't.  The NCAA got it right with the BCS.

Best regards,

CURF Fans
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 05, 2006, 07:08:34 PM
Quote from: Twisted2 on December 05, 2006, 06:36:30 PM
PLAYOFFS??!!!!  We're talkin' bout playoffs! 
Playoffs would never work.  WHat a dumb idea.  d3, D2, D1aa, NFL, and High Schools across the nation can pull it off yet D1 college football shouldn't.  The NCAA got it right with the BCS.

Best regards,

CURF Fans

In this context I take that to mean "Chronically Uniformed Retarded Florida" fans. ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 05, 2006, 09:59:37 PM
Quote from: Twisted2 on December 05, 2006, 06:36:30 PM
PLAYOFFS??!!!!  We're talkin' bout playoffs! 
Playoffs would never work.  WHat a dumb idea.  d3, D2, D1aa, NFL, and High Schools across the nation can pull it off yet D1 college football shouldn't.  The NCAA got it right with the BCS.

Best regards,

CURF Fans

mmmm, okay....a) give a good reason as to why playoffs would never work if they work for every other sport at every level and b) what are CURF Fans???

(someone didn't take their ritalin... ;D)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 05, 2006, 10:52:42 PM
Aw, Marcus,

You didn't like my explanation of CURF?! :'(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on December 06, 2006, 11:14:23 AM
How can anyone say that a UM and OSU rematch would not be a good game, UM left two touchdowns on the field last time they played.  And there was talk about how OSU torched the UM defense Look waht UM did to the suppossed best D in D1, they had their way with them, and overthrew two wide open receicvers on drives in which they did not score.  I think those two teams are so evenly matched that the game could go either way.  If they were to play again I think UM would come out on top. 

The only thing that scares me about the UM USC game is the fact UM likes to play down to competition.  And yes I think playing USC is playing down but thats the way it is. 

UF comes from the best conference in college football and proved they deserve a chance I think they are a very good team.  I live by the university and see them play a lot and they will  surprise people in this game. 

I am a UF and UM fan so this was a win win for me but i feel UM has a better shot at OSU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 06, 2006, 11:39:46 AM
haha, my apologies Mr. Ypsi...I do like that explanation, I was supposed to be asking what twisted meant by CURF Fans, not you. I don't know why I referred to you, sorry.

So Twisted,

What does CURF Fans mean if you don't mind answering...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: hollaatyourboy1981 on December 07, 2006, 12:42:50 PM
I cant wait till CUC playes LC in bball this winter!!!

...Well I believe all you remember the crying that went on after LC dominate CUC in football and 7400 West decided to post the above remark in the post...Its around page 143. So um, last night it just so happened LC made the trip to CUC and well look what happened...LC again victorious over CUC...Please someone tell me, what was stolen this time...Go head CUC, cry to your mommy and daddy about this one...People are beginning to expect this ;-)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 07, 2006, 03:07:31 PM
Quote from: hollaatyourboy1981 on December 07, 2006, 12:42:50 PM
I cant wait till CUC playes LC in bball this winter!!!

...Well I believe all you remember the crying that went on after LC dominate CUC in football and 7400 West decided to post the above remark in the post...Its around page 143. So um, last night it just so happened LC made the trip to CUC and well look what happened...LC again victorious over CUC...Please someone tell me, what was stolen this time...Go head CUC, cry to your mommy and daddy about this one...People are beginning to expect this ;-)

this isnt the basketball forum...so maybe your questions will be answered over there.

Also, to clear this up, I don't think it could be viewed as crying and regardless of a W or L in the football season, it would of been stated that things were stolen or taken and hidden. Congrats on LC's win, go brag about it in the bball forum.

Have a nice day hollaatyourboy!!! ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: hollaatyourboy1981 on December 07, 2006, 07:03:40 PM
But the issue of CUC beating lakeland was posted on this board so I just thought I would let everyone know that CUC lost last night to...Lakeland...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 07, 2006, 10:47:06 PM
sorry it just seemed like you posted to start something...yea, you say lakeland won...but the real message is to start something,  your post is referring to something that happened almost 2 months ago, are you little cheeseheads still not over being accused?

take care of yourself and good luck to your muskies on the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 08, 2006, 10:14:55 AM
Twisted, we are still waiting on your explanation why a playoff wouldn't work in D-I.  You said "playoffs work in D-I AA, D-II, D-III and high schools yet it would never work in D-I". 

What's the difference besides better players and bigger schools?

Of course it would work.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on December 08, 2006, 12:33:09 PM
He was being sarcastic.  He was providing many cases in which the playoff format is successful
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 08, 2006, 04:40:14 PM
Interesting, I didn't get that, I apologize.

USA Today had a good article this past week why there should be a playoff in D-I A football......too bad I have no idea where it went.

Just take my word for it.

I mean come on, just look at these matchups if there was a playoff of the top 8 BCS teams.  And they would just keep getting better.

(1)Ohio St. vs. (8)Boise St.
(2)Florida vs. (7)Wisconsin
(3)Michigan vs. (6)Louisville
(4)LSU vs. (5)USC

One thing I do remember from the article is that the season would be only 3 games longer and players would be back in time for 2nd semester.

I just hope someone in the NCAA would listen to us (the people/fans who watch college football).  But maybe they have, who knows.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 08, 2006, 10:37:41 PM
I just wanted to wish everyone a happy and safe weekend... ;D

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on December 09, 2006, 12:44:24 AM
pat coleman or anyone with a clue,

how does John Wagoner make 3rd team all north region LB and he wasn't even voted in his conference as the best LB?

somebody made a major screw up if that guy makes it and JR Harriel doesn't.

no disrespect to John he is a good football player, but somebody help me understand this one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 09, 2006, 08:55:31 AM
Quote from: Genius on December 09, 2006, 12:44:24 AM
pat coleman or anyone with a clue,

how does John Wagoner make 3rd team all north region LB and he wasn't even voted in his conference as the best LB?

somebody made a major screw up if that guy makes it and JR Harriel doesn't.

no disrespect to John he is a good football player, but somebody help me understand this one.

Very simple.  He wasn't nominated!! 

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on December 09, 2006, 09:46:02 AM
card alum,

do u know whose responsibility to nominate a player is. SID, coaches or what?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on December 09, 2006, 11:42:07 AM
WOW...........gentleman  i have seen it all!!! first off i will say congrats to john he was ok, but not as good as projected this off season!!! I will say that i am extremely sorry for JR man, you got shafted for a midioaker LB!! Yes john should of got first team all conference but not all region!!! This is kinda wierd though for lakeland players....Coach Z must of been getting "A's" in his marketing classes when he was at college bc lets get to the FACTS........This year the best defensive player does NOT get no recognition but a lakeland average lineback does......Last year......even though lakeland did win the conference...I was first in the conference in tackles and solos with 121 tackle last season blew Van doo little out the water and i believe JR was 2nd last year in the con frence last year...but the Van do little get All American, which in my opinion wasnt deserved just like wagner...............Listen i tell it how it is and i ain sugar coating nothing...people might not like to read what i am writing or say but fact is......This is an OUTRAGE 2 years in the row!!!!!!! No disrespect for coach Z or i am not hateing on john. It just wierd how these things work....Pat whats going on here??? Not to mention MAC DIDNT HAVE AN SID nor A head coach so Peter Ereg who was in the top five in rushing this year didnt even get reconized!!!!!!! As far as bobby......man you deserved it as well as stienmetz....anyone from CUW deserves it........but come one this is crazy!!!!!!! Gillepse you should of gotten something!!! You all can say what you want about me or anything but i am getting my degree at the end of this year and i know i dominated as well as JR did this season and last season.........and cant no WORDS or what anybody may say about me will change my mind set, FILM DONT LIE, Right John...........HAHA!! trying to take a cheap shot but get Blown up not once but a couple times and one of his teammates who helped got it tooo!!! HAHA you guys know dont lie to yourself!!!! So in closing, say what you want but myself as well as anyone else knows that JR got SHAFTED and so did I last year bc i the MARKETING OF COACH Z!!!!!!! I am not got to say good job to JOHN but i will say GOOD JOB COACH Z, maybe i will look you up one day when i am in business bc you have proved to me 2 years in the row of how good you really are!!!! COACH Z best coach in the confernece HANDS DOWN!!! i got alot fo respect for ya and i will take you up on what you said to me after the game man one of these days!!! Congrats to CUW players, you know i got mad respect for you all!!!!

Larry Pirollo #9

p.s- JR MAN I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY!!!!!!!! you are an all american and all region in my book and always will forever!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 09, 2006, 12:12:28 PM
QuoteThis year the best defensive player does NOT get no recognition

Sweet double negative

So does that mean he gets recognition?

Just wondering.

All around tough post to read man, I think my IQ just dropped a couple pts.

But I do agree with you on one thing, JR did get the shaft.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on December 09, 2006, 12:41:54 PM
QuoteYou all can say what you want about me or anything but i am getting my degree at the end of this year

I think your IQ did drop bc you sure as hell cant read real well, so i had to remind ya!!!

I am glad we agreed on one thing though!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 09, 2006, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: Genius on December 09, 2006, 09:46:02 AM
card alum,

do u know whose responsibility to nominate a player is. SID, coaches or what?

I don't know if it's the coach or SID, but Pat clearly said in the region blogs that nobody from Greenville was nominated.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 09, 2006, 03:36:19 PM
baseman101,
I see your matchups and this is my biggest problem with that.  This may sound confsing but I will try my best.  This is what the bracket would look like.
1 OSU v 8 Boise St.
4 LSU v 5 USC
3 Michigan v 6 Louisville
2 Florida v 7 Wisconsin

My problem with this format is that by the last game of the playoff, the two teams will be so mentally, emotionally and physically drained we wont get to see the best possible game as if both teams were 100% fresh.  I mean take Michigan for example, they are gonna have to beat Louisville, Florida likely, and either OSU, LSU, or USC...To mentally and physically prepare for these teams in 3 consecutive weeks is not healthy.  This is more typical pro-style playoff though the seeding is different of course.  These kids are still in college and are younger than us.  You cannot expect them to be able to come back on top of their game after playing these high-profile programs, week after week.  So Florida has the toughest schedule, played one more game(vs Arkansas who is better than Boise and Wis.)unlike everyone else, then you say, oh by the way, beat Michigan and Ohio State.  Yes, by pure default someone will win 3 in a row and be the champs.  I really truly think that you have to set the "excitement factor" aside and really take a look as to what is the best method to get the 2 best teams.

Things about the BCS that are stupid are:
Conference champs get an automatic bid (did anyone notice how VTech was ranked higher than any other ACC team, but yet didnt play for the ACC championship game?  Thats because of those ridiculous divisions they have)
ND gets an at-large if they win 9 games
The 40 day lay-off.
The voters are flat awful.
Among other things.

But what isnt stupid is that it gives u a clear cut number 1 and 2...whether u agree with it or not.

Not to mention Oklahoma would be in the top 8 if it wasnt for some whack job official of the pac 10.  But thats another argument.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 09, 2006, 03:52:39 PM
Can someone tell me the difference between the "Player of the Year" award, "Most Outstanding Player" award and the Heisman trophy?  Because no one will ever convince me that they just gave the Oustanding player award to Brady Quinn the other night because he deserved it.  They did it because he was gonna go home empty handed, otherwise.  Are those not the same 3 meanings?

And kind of off topic, why does there always have to be just 1 MVP, why couldnt Kobe and Nash win it last year?  Kind of stupid if you ask me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 09, 2006, 08:07:08 PM
Bufan-

I see what you mean with the consecutive games in 3 weeks, etc...

But what about all other college divisions, they are the same age and most of them work just as hard as the D-I guys.

There will ALWAYS be two groups, people who want a playoff and people who just want the BCS.  Both ways have flaws I admit, but honestly something needs to change.

I will get back to you later Piroll09
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on December 10, 2006, 01:19:22 PM
WOW...lol  ;D    Stats dont lie, nor does film...I got the shaft

Need I say more?

Congrats John Wagner
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 10, 2006, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: JRHarriel25 on December 10, 2006, 01:19:22 PM
WOW...lol  ;D    Stats dont lie, nor does film...I got the shaft

Need I say more?


No, your coaches and school shafted you. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on December 10, 2006, 07:33:34 PM
Quote from: bufan on December 09, 2006, 03:36:19 PM
baseman101,
I see your matchups and this is my biggest problem with that.  This may sound confsing but I will try my best.  This is what the bracket would look like.
1 OSU v 8 Boise St.
4 LSU v 5 USC
3 Michigan v 6 Louisville
2 Florida v 7 Wisconsin

My problem with this format is that by the last game of the playoff, the two teams will be so mentally, emotionally and physically drained we wont get to see the best possible game as if both teams were 100% fresh.  I mean take Michigan for example, they are gonna have to beat Louisville, Florida likely, and either OSU, LSU, or USC...To mentally and physically prepare for these teams in 3 consecutive weeks is not healthy.  This is more typical pro-style playoff though the seeding is different of course.  These kids are still in college and are younger than us.  You cannot expect them to be able to come back on top of their game after playing these high-profile programs, week after week.  So Florida has the toughest schedule, played one more game(vs Arkansas who is better than Boise and Wis.)unlike everyone else, then you say, oh by the way, beat Michigan and Ohio State.  Yes, by pure default someone will win 3 in a row and be the champs.  I really truly think that you have to set the "excitement factor" aside and really take a look as to what is the best method to get the 2 best teams.

Things about the BCS that are stupid are:
Conference champs get an automatic bid (did anyone notice how VTech was ranked higher than any other ACC team, but yet didnt play for the ACC championship game?  Thats because of those ridiculous divisions they have)
ND gets an at-large if they win 9 games
The 40 day lay-off.
The voters are flat awful.
Among other things.

But what isnt stupid is that it gives u a clear cut number 1 and 2...whether u agree with it or not.

Not to mention Oklahoma would be in the top 8 if it wasnt for some whack job official of the pac 10.  But thats another argument.

They should go to a Plus one system.  Top 6 teams play in three of the four major BCS bowls (1v4, 2v3, and 5v6) on New Years Day.  The winners of the 1v4 and 2v3 play a week later for the championship in the last BCS Bowl game (which is rotated).

In this way, the 4 majors keep interest, revenue, even more for the "semi-final" Bowl games, and it eliminates the contoversy with play on the field.

Because the D-I schools already play a 13 week season, it would be a hard sell to faculties and school presidents to buy into.  They would most likely request a restructure the season to shorten the regular season (just a conjecture) and jeopordize many of the great non-conference rivalries that have developed over the years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on December 10, 2006, 10:49:18 PM
 
These are the three LB's who made 1st Team North Region

Category                  Player            Rank           Actual

Total Tackles     Adrian Pynenberg     41               10.1   
Solo Tackles      Adrian Pynenberg     44                   5.4   

Total Tackles        Jason Allen            11               11.8
Solo Tackles         Jason Allen              31                   5.8   

Total Tackles         Tom Brew             10               12.1
Tackles For Loss    Tom Brew              7                  2.2

Statistically I am by far better than every guy on the 1st Team North Region
   
Total Tackles         J.R. Harriel            15               11.5
Solo Tackles          J.R. Harriel              20                   6.2    
Pass Sacks            J.R. Harriel              30                 0.9    
Tackles For Loss    J.R. Harriel              10                   2.0    
Forced Fumbles     J.R. Harriel              8                 0.4   

What more can you ask from a single player? I work my butt of this past season and have proven myself in D3 and I dont even make the all region team.

I may be wrong but, I dont think anyone could find a SINGLE player (LB) better than me (statistically) in all of D3 football.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2006, 11:23:45 PM
Yet one must be nominated, J.R. You can argue here until you're blue in the face but the school dropped the ball. I'm really not sure how many people have to say it before you figure it out.

Good news is that we occasionally consider un-nominated players for All-American regardless. But who knows.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 11, 2006, 09:55:02 AM
Yeah, the plus 1 system would be a great idea.  But I dont think it would apply in all year, such as last year or this year with Ohio State being so clear cut 1.  And USC and Texas being so clear cut last year.  There would have to be a way to determine when to use and when not to use it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on December 11, 2006, 10:07:32 AM
You know what Pat..... What i have been seeing through the years is this, If a player does not go to one of the known schools in D3 than chance are that player is not going to get recongnize for anything!!! You know what the wost part about it, Pat you talk about how bad Don Hansen's Teams are and how it isn't credible, well i have friends on big time Division 1 team that i played high school football ball with and they know what don hansen is all about and the crediblity of those teams are! you know whats funny, they do not even know about d3.com nor does anyone else who doesnt play divsion 3 football. I hate the fact the your website is so involved in the POLITICS!! Just to tell who how "credible," my friends are who play college football; and whom i played high school football with, Keith Rivers, USC starting linebacker(lake mary high school), Reggie Cambell, Navy RB(lake mary high school, Cameron Bateman DB, ISU (lake mary high school), Justin Scott DB Purdue (lake mary high school) and others i cant name them all bc i had 10 divison 1 scholarship athletes on my high school team but i just wanted to name a few!! All these guys do not know about a D3.com all region, all american teams, BUT when i ask them about don hansen they know all about it!!! so i ask, Pat, why is it so POLITICAL when it comes to this website?? JUST MY OPINON!!! This whole season i see you giving respect to players who probably weren't anything in high school but probably landed themselves in a good program and worked hard to recieve honors!!! Put a couple athletes that were good in this conference on top teams in d3, THAN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN???? I am not mad about myself bc i know i am getting a degree and have plenty of job opportunities after college and success is my future as far as business or coaching!!!! so what you may try to say about me will not do anything, i got respect from many of my peers on and off the field bc i played ever play like my last and i was a play maker, so pat can you give me some true answers without taking hacks at a couple former players who just show concern about your "CREDIBLE," All region and all american teams!! Thanks Pat i know you will do the right thing!!!  ;) 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 11:11:28 AM
Quote from: JRHarriel25 on December 10, 2006, 10:49:18 PM
What more can you ask from a single player? I work my butt of this past season and have proven myself in D3 and I dont even make the all region team.

I may be wrong but, I dont think anyone could find a SINGLE player (LB) better than me (statistically) in all of D3 football.

I don't know what is more ridiculous and selfish than a player that spouts off ad nausea on their own personal accomplishments.  Not the kinda player I want on my team... 

I know what we can ask from "a single player".  SHUT UP!  It sounds like you had a great year and are worthy of consideration.  But your SID didn't nominate you and you can't say that those who were honored don't deserve it.  And I'll bet if we look at it, we probably can't find a SINGLE player who was better.  I'll bet we'd find at least 5!

No doubt you worked your tail off.  No doubt you had a great year.  But All-Region, All-Conference, All-American teams are not "self promoted, self-nominated" honors.  Otherwise they would be completely and utterly meaningless.  Even so... 10 years from now these honors mean very little in the overall scheme of things.  People don't remember who was on what team from 10 years ago.  I'd rather hold onto what my team accomplished.

Can you be anymore arrogant?  Do us a favor and don't answer that question, because you'll probably start ranting and expousing an endless stream of "diarrhera of the mouth" on how you stats support the fact that you are better than any All-Pro linebacker.  Look out Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher... J.R Harriel is coming.  The best linebacker in the universe (in his own mind).

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 11, 2006, 11:48:26 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 11:11:28 AM
Quote from: JRHarriel25 on December 10, 2006, 10:49:18 PM
What more can you ask from a single player? I work my butt of this past season and have proven myself in D3 and I dont even make the all region team.

I may be wrong but, I dont think anyone could find a SINGLE player (LB) better than me (statistically) in all of D3 football.

I don't know what is more ridiculous and selfish than a player that spouts off ad nausea on their own personal accomplishments.  Not the kinda player I want on my team... 

I know what we can ask from "a single player".  SHUT UP!  It sounds like you had a great year and are worthy of consideration.  But your SID didn't nominate you and you can't say that those who were honored don't deserve it.  And I'll bet if we look at it, we probably can't find a SINGLE player who was better.  I'll bet we'd find at least 5!

No doubt you worked your tail off.  No doubt you had a great year.  But All-Region, All-Conference, All-American teams are not "self promoted, self-nominated" honors.  Otherwise they would be completely and utterly meaningless.  Even so... 10 years from now these honors mean very little in the overall scheme of things.  People don't remember who was on what team from 10 years ago.  I'd rather hold onto what my team accomplished.

Can you be anymore arrogant?  Do us a favor and don't answer that question, because you'll probably start ranting and expousing an endless stream of "diarrhera of the mouth" on how you stats support the fact that you are better than any All-Pro linebacker.  Look out Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher... J.R Harriel is coming.  The best linebacker in the universe (in his own mind).



<standing ovation>  Very well said, Mugsy.  I was trying to come up with some type of response and yours sums it up perfectly! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 12:11:52 PM
Quote from: JRHarriel25 on November 29, 2006, 02:40:27 PM
Far as post season awards, not gonna lie...they will be great, but really dont mean much to me (may look nice to add to my collection). 

Interesting...  "the JRHarriel" posted on November 29th that post season awards really don't matter much, yet he is now going on a self promotion campaign about the injustice of being left off the All-Region team.  Wonder what's next?  Billboards along Illinois highways and toll roads extolling the supremacy of his stats?

Seems to me you do care about this...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on December 11, 2006, 10:07:32 AM
All these guys do not know about a D3.com all region, all american teams, BUT when i ask them about don hansen they know all about it!!!

Of course they do. It's five times more likely they know a Don Hansen All-American because there are five times more of them.

Plus, let's face it, you guys are in Illinois, same as Don Hansen. He's better known in Illinois than anywhere else. We'll take the other 49 states and continue to bring you over to the bright side.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SonsofThunder on December 11, 2006, 01:45:26 PM
Simply wow.  Well said Pat, Mugsy, CardinalAlum, and anyone else who brought this kid back to planet earth. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on December 11, 2006, 02:07:32 PM
Point well taken, BUT you did not answer the question at hand. AGAIN, why do good player continously get over looked? With that being said there is numerous accounts from which players who are nationally ranked in the top 10 or top 5 categories and is getting over looked bc of the school they might go to. Names to name a few, Pete Ereg Top 10 or top 5 in every rushing category, no recognition, JR Harriel, stats already given, no recognition, 2 years ago ANTHONY BALLERINO, 3rd in receptions and and top 10 in yards, no recognition! As for me, it doesn't really make me all upset bc again i got alot respect from peers from high school to college. BUT over numerous accounts that i have seen over 4 years in division 3 football great athletes have been overlooked. If a player does great statistically on a team not as known, he might get over looked but if a midoaker player does ok on a known team than he reaps the benefits. Therefore, HOW DO YOU CHOOSE THE ATHLETES FOR THESE TEAMS ACCURATLEY???  ??? What is the criteria to make these teams bc honestly stats does not matter!! It really should, bc peoples opinions are like assholes everyone has one...BUT stats, in black and white CAN NOT BE DISPUTED!!!!! What is your rebuttle to this??? This website is great, as well as INFORMATION that you produce is wonderfull. Your criteria rest mainly on schools that are KNOWN not the cold hard facts that are black and white and is earned on the field!!!  :'(

       This needs to be changed, and everyone who is giving JR heck, well i know him personally and he is incredibily humble about what he does/ and i garrantee that if this was not his senior year he would not say a word, but since this is his last year i can understand where he is coming from!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 11, 2006, 02:13:08 PM
You continue you talk about "known" schools.  Which of these schools do you speak of?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 11, 2006, 02:15:02 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on December 11, 2006, 02:07:32 PM
This needs to be changed, and everyone who is giving JR heck, well i know him personally and he is incredibily humble about what he does/ and i garrantee that if this was not his senior year he would not say a word, but since this is his last year i can understand where he is coming from!!!

Humble?  ???  ::)  uhhh...sure he is!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on December 11, 2006, 02:20:44 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 11:11:28 AM
Quote from: JRHarriel25 on December 10, 2006, 10:49:18 PM
What more can you ask from a single player? I work my butt of this past season and have proven myself in D3 and I dont even make the all region team.

I may be wrong but, I dont think anyone could find a SINGLE player (LB) better than me (statistically) in all of D3 football.

I don't know what is more ridiculous and selfish than a player that spouts off ad nausea on their own personal accomplishments.  Not the kinda player I want on my team... 

I know what we can ask from "a single player".  SHUT UP!  It sounds like you had a great year and are worthy of consideration.  But your SID didn't nominate you and you can't say that those who were honored don't deserve it.  And I'll bet if we look at it, we probably can't find a SINGLE player who was better.  I'll bet we'd find at least 5!

No doubt you worked your tail off.  No doubt you had a great year.  But All-Region, All-Conference, All-American teams are not "self promoted, self-nominated" honors.  Otherwise they would be completely and utterly meaningless.  Even so... 10 years from now these honors mean very little in the overall scheme of things.  People don't remember who was on what team from 10 years ago.  I'd rather hold onto what my team accomplished.

Can you be anymore arrogant?  Do us a favor and don't answer that question, because you'll probably start ranting and expousing an endless stream of "diarrhera of the mouth" on how you stats support the fact that you are better than any All-Pro linebacker.  Look out Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher... J.R Harriel is coming.  The best linebacker in the universe (in his own mind).




Sorry if I came off the wrong way, but just put yourselves into my shoes here.

All I was saying was that, give credit when credit is due...at the time I did'nt know who was responsible for nominating the players, now I do.  At first I thought D3 were responsible. I apologies.

And yes, I did say it really don't mean much, in all it really don't...but i would telling a lie if I say I did'nt want post season awards.

Far as being selfish...not me at all.  Never was never will be.  




   

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on December 11, 2006, 02:07:32 PM
everyone who is giving JR heck, well i know him personally and he is incredibily humble about what he does/ and i garrantee that if this was not his senior year he would not say a word, but since this is his last year i can understand where he is coming from!!!

I don't know him personally so I don't have much to go on in terms of his character and level of humility.  But the 2 comments below are a polar opposite of humility.  It is clear he is definitely frustrated and upset at not being recognized for his efforts, but I don't see anything that would indicate humility.

Quote
Statistically I am by far better than every guy on the 1st Team North Region

I may be wrong but, I dont think anyone could find a SINGLE player (LB) better than me (statistically) in all of D3 football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 02:27:10 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on December 11, 2006, 02:07:32 PM
Point well taken, BUT you did not answer the question at hand. AGAIN, why do good player continously get over looked?

I would say this -- because outside your conference there are many, many great players. IBFC schools do not really get out and see that much. There's a whole world of Division III out there and this is probably the second-worst conference, third-worst at most. The level of compettion is not great.

JR -- dude, I'm sorry. You would've been a great All-Region candidate. As I have said, we do occasionally look at non-nominated players for All-American but I'm not sure what the linebacker field looks like yet.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 11, 2006, 02:30:02 PM
Since the temperature is turned up in here.  I'll attempt to help us bring an end.  If you guys have acknowledged there is a flaw in the way this All-Region stuff works then accept it.  If you, and others agree you were one of the best, then you were.  You dont need some plaque and piece of paper to validate it.  You were the conference defensive player of the year, right?  So that is plenty of recognition in my eyes.  If you feel you still have something to prove then go do it.  If you feel you have done enough then that is fine too.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: JRHarriel25 on December 11, 2006, 02:20:44 PM
Sorry if I came off the wrong way, but just put yourselves into my shoes here.

All I was saying was that, give credit when credit is due...at the time I did'nt know who was responsible for nominating the players, now I do.  At first I thought D3 were responsible. I apologies.

And yes, I did say it really don't mean much, in all it really don't...but i would telling a lie if I say I did'nt want post season awards.

Far as being selfish...not me at all.  Never was never will be.  

Fair enough... I can completely understand your frustration.  It sounds like you had a great season and Greenville has really turned the program around (especially since the last time Wheaton played you).  Congrats on both accounts.  

But it has been said repeatedly here... your SID or AD is responsible for submitting the nominations for All-Region.  You CAN fault the process for not gathering all the potential candidates, but you CAN'T fault those who run this site for the failure of your AD and SID to submit your name.

Trust me on this though... as the years pass, the personal awards become less and less important.  It has been almost 20 years since I last put on the pads in D3 football (15 since I played at all), and I can't remember the last time the topic of personal accolades from playing college football has ever come up in day to day conversation.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SonsofThunder on December 11, 2006, 02:36:05 PM
Well said Mugsy...JR let me encourage you to do this.  Do not measure your football career based on personal accolades you recieved throughout.  Reflect on your personal career and realize how successful you were.  Stats don't lie my friend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 11, 2006, 02:37:12 PM
Piroll09-

Seriously, no more posting from you.

I am getting a headache.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on December 11, 2006, 02:38:45 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 02:27:10 PM

JR -- dude, I'm sorry. You would've been a great All-Region candidate. As I have said, we do occasionally look at non-nominated players for All-American but I'm not sure what the linebacker field looks like yet.

Thanks Pat...once again I would like to apologies for comming off the way I did.  It was just a very upsetting moment for me.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 03:14:07 PM
Baseman201,
No more posting for you, that was pretty useless in saying that.....Its his opinion and I commend him for saying it, if it bothers you dont read it
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 03:18:51 PM
Oh yeah, We all should know how political this kinda stuff gets when it comes to seasons end......Just like back in the day, the team that gets the conf title usually gets more votes on all conf.....Same concept, the politics lie in the so called credibility of teams they think may be better, for instance in this region ncc and wheaton are the so-called better teams, but they can be taken down the cciw likes to pretend theyre better but theyre not and cuw proved it by beating ncc, tru that cuw didnt get the job done when it mattered, and that is something that hopefully can be worked on in the last season of the IBFC next year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: tpoe on December 11, 2006, 03:19:26 PM
Hey I was looking at the D3 all north region team and thats messed up that my man JR aint on there. He is the best linebacker in the nation period. And my man Larry P should have been on there too. These guys led the conference in almost everything on defense and both are ranked in the nation that is bogus they got shafted. I know the coaches are supposed to vote first so that makes it even worse. I should have been on there as well as Gillespie. Mask is a beast and derserving of whatever he gets but cant anyone tell me that Terrance Poe aint a monster on the field.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: tpoe on December 11, 2006, 03:23:13 PM
I also forgot about Ereg lets just say, a man amongst boys.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 11, 2006, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 03:18:51 PM
Oh yeah, We all should know how political this kinda stuff gets when it comes to seasons end......Just like back in the day, the team that gets the conf title usually gets more votes on all conf.....Same concept, the politics lie in the so called credibility of teams they think may be better, for instance in this region ncc and wheaton are the so-called better teams, but they can be taken down the cciw likes to pretend theyre better but theyre not and cuw proved it by beating ncc, tru that cuw didnt get the job done when it mattered, and that is something that hopefully can be worked on in the last season of the IBFC next year

35-6 when it mattered!  That's what NCC beat CUW by "when it mattered" and it could have been 60-0!  You hang your hat on the first game all you want.  The fact remains that the IBFC is a terrible conference and will disband next year never having won a playoff game!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 03:41:20 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 03:18:51 PM
Oh yeah, We all should know how political this kinda stuff gets when it comes to seasons end......Just like back in the day, the team that gets the conf title usually gets more votes on all conf.....Same concept, the politics lie in the so called credibility of teams they think may be better, for instance in this region ncc and wheaton are the so-called better teams, but they can be taken down the cciw likes to pretend theyre better but theyre not and cuw proved it by beating ncc, tru that cuw didnt get the job done when it mattered, and that is something that hopefully can be worked on in the last season of the IBFC next year

How is the selction of the All-Region team "political"?  The issue discussed here has nothing to do with a CCIW nominee getting preferential consideration over other "candidates".  Only one CCIW LB's was given All-Region honors and that was 3rd Team.  When you bring up the term "political", the implication is underhanded, corrupt or unevenly influenced.  That is not the case here... Pat and the voters have no unbalanced allegiance towards the CCIW.  Pat & team were not given extra cash behind the scenes to make sure CCIW teams were given more recognition.  

Umm... Pat you weren't, right?   :P ;D

How many times does it need to be brought up?  This was a case of an AD or SID failing to nominate players from their own school.  Since they weren't nominated, they weren't even on the ballot for consideration.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on December 11, 2006, 03:46:56 PM
QuotePiroll09-

Seriously, no more posting from you.

I am getting a headache.

Truth Hurts dont it!!! HAHAHAHA ;D

CardinalAlum, WHO ARE YOU??

POE- You are a beast, i hate hitting you!!

PAT- You are handling yourself good, i like your style, It just puzzles me sometimes when i think about the past events with this type of stuff!

MUGSY- I hear ya, but you all need to preach your BS to your own room bc quite frankley NO ONE GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE CCIW, I SURE AS HELL DONT NOR DO I RESPECT ANYONE THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN PLAY, I DONT GO BY THE HEAT SAY BS, I GOT BY COLD HARD FACTS, THINGS THAT CAN NOT BE DISPUTED!!!!!! HAHAHA THE CCIW JOKE, PEOPLE WHO POST IN OTHER ROOMS ABOUT YOUR CONFERENCE, ARE JOKES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 11, 2006, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on December 11, 2006, 03:46:56 PM
MUGSY- I hear ya, but you all need to preach your BS to your own room bc quite frankley NO ONE GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE CCIW, I SURE AS HELL DONT NOR DO I RESPECT ANYONE THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN PLAY, I DONT GO BY THE HEAT SAY BS, I GOT BY COLD HARD FACTS, THINGS THAT CAN NOT BE DISPUTED!!!!!!   

English major?  ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 04:00:45 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on December 11, 2006, 03:46:56 PM
MUGSY- I hear ya, but you all need to preach your BS to your own room bc quite frankley NO ONE GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE CCIW, I SURE AS HELL DONT NOR DO I RESPECT ANYONE THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN PLAY, I DONT GO BY THE HEAT SAY BS, I GOT BY COLD HARD FACTS, THINGS THAT CAN NOT BE DISPUTED!!!!!! HAHAHA THE CCIW JOKE, PEOPLE WHO POST IN OTHER ROOMS ABOUT YOUR CONFERENCE, ARE JOKES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D   :D :D :D

<silence><crickets chirping><melting snow>...

Not even sure how to respond to this jumbled, run-on sentence with no coherent taught.

"I DONT GO BY THE HEAT SAY BS, I GOT BY COLD HARD FACTS, THINGS THAT CAN NOT BE DISPUTED!!!!!! HAHAHA"  

When I get home tonight I'll run this by my 2 year olds, because maybe they will have a better chance at figuring out what the heck this could possible mean.

Since you can't have an intellegent discussion over here anyway, I'll go back to where people don't need to use CAPS and avoid pages and pages of run-on sentences.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 11, 2006, 04:06:39 PM
Does 53-7 sound familiar??  I'm sure you saw plenty of Augustana runners go by you!  Seeing as they rushed for 349 yards against you, I would imagine you respect them!    :D :D :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 04:23:24 PM
Why dont yall stick to your board........The first game was probably more indicitave of how good the teams were because everyone was healthy.....Im right with ya Pirollo........All the CCIW is is the IBFC with better facilities so come down of your high horse and fce facts you aint better......go ahead and throw stats at me cuz we know it and dont bother me
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 04:23:24 PM
The first game was probably more indicitave of how good the teams were because everyone was healthy..

Except that CUW had played more games than NCC had. As in they had played one and NCC had played zero.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 04:33:26 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 04:23:24 PM
Why dont yall stick to your board........The first game was probably more indicitave of how good the teams were because everyone was healthy.....Im right with ya Pirollo........All the CCIW is is the IBFC with better facilities so come down of your high horse and fce facts you aint better......go ahead and throw stats at me cuz we know it and dont bother me

Ok... I will. 

By the way... you failed to mention that all the CCIW is is is is is is the IBFC with 11 playoff victories since 1999 instead of ZERO and 4 national championships in the 80's.

Logic is obviously optional over here when it comes to posting.  All that is required is to make sure the cap lock is on and you say "THINGS THAT CAN NOT BE DISPUTED" at the end of every post.  That automatically coverts incorherent, unsubstantiated rambles into impervious fact.

THIS POST CAN NOT BE DISPUTED!!!!! :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SCARED KITTY on December 11, 2006, 04:37:02 PM
I was at LC's football awards banquet this last Saturday night. I must say I was very impressed with all the player and there achievements. If it makes you (JR) feel better it was not announce at the banquet that Wagner received the Region award. When I saw him after the awards to congratulate him on being LC's Defense Player of the Year, I ask him why they hadn't mention the Region award. He told me that he really didn't know why, awards are awards and they are nice, but if it wasn't for his family, coaches and teammates he wouldn't be were he is now getting an education and doing what he loves playing football. His father once told him he would never go to college, let alone play football in college. Boy did you prove him wrong. Good job John.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 11, 2006, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 04:23:24 PM
Why dont yall stick to your board........The first game was probably more indicitave of how good the teams were because everyone was healthy.....Im right with ya Pirollo........All the CCIW is is the IBFC with better facilities so come down of your high horse and fce facts you aint better......go ahead and throw stats at me cuz we know it and dont bother me

That makes two of us!  I'm going back to the place where it is peaceful and the posts are mostly coherent!   8)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 11, 2006, 04:39:17 PM
Whoa, one day of not looking through here and there are pages and pages of all out war. Very, very exciting. Yeap, most likely IBFC will disband without a playoff win...but why even start going there? I like reading your posts CardinalAlum but I am a big supporter of IBFC and soon to be NAC. CCIW has some great teams and I have a few friends on some of those teams...it is a different type of atmoshpere, you guys have so much more than the IBFC. But there is no one to blame but the IBFC themselves. Sooner or later, the IBFC (NAC) will rise and get more recognition. Till then, I guess it is cool for you all to rag on the conference, including you Pat, always have to take a side and get your few words in. ;D


J.R., I am sorry to hear about the bad news...if there had to be one player who actually had class in this conference and played well, you would be first on my list to mention. But everyone is right, you know how you played and the people who played against you know how you played...keep your chin up, you are a hell of a player.

and to BUFAN, I could tell you hate Notre Dame and I love it!!! Notre Dame is a team you either hate or love and well, I love them. I will say this though, I am scared for them against LSU...hopefully they will one day move to a conference. I could have high hopes right?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on December 11, 2006, 04:39:17 PM
Sooner or later, the IBFC (NAC) will rise and get more recognition. Till then, I guess it is cool for you all to rag on the conference, including you Pat, always have to take a side and get your few words in.

Well, sorry -- it's kinda hard to put a positive spin on this. Would it make you feel better if we left the bottom few conferences off our rankings next time?

http://www.d3football.com/atn.php?id=91
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on December 11, 2006, 05:09:12 PM
Of all the conference boards, this one certainly has the most fireworks. Save it for the field.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 11, 2006, 05:38:19 PM
Wow, you leave the various boards for a couple of days and realize things have gotten out of hand.  Guys, c'mon some of these posts could have been written by 2 year olds.
With regards to the CUW/NC 2 games.
Fatal Impact, I agree that early in the season teams are (usually) 100% but has there ever been a National Champion (or Champion at any level) that has won their award(s) by winning the first 2-3 games of their schedule(s)?

Sports are wars of attrition and who can survive the LONG journeys from start to finish.  Concordia-WI had a great year and I don't think anybody on either board is going to dispute that.  NC has had 2 great years now and I don't think anybody is going to dispute this one either.   
From the booth, the CUW/NC game was a good battle and I think both teams had their chances early in the game.  NC converted and CUW didn't get the points they needed early.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 11, 2006, 05:42:57 PM
Pirolllo9-
CardinalAlum (like most of us posters) is a former football player at North Central from the 80's.  I played in the late 90's at Elmhurst.  I would guess 80-90% of the posters on the d3football website  are former players that know their fair share of football. 
I know CardinalAlum personally and he is a GREAT guy to sit and reminisce about our playing days, and recent rises by our respective schools.  We both played on some pretty bad teams at NC/EC.
Unfortunately, many people will not start to "open their eyes" to the IBFC (or soon to NAC) until they start making some noise in the post-season.  I am not saying the CCIW is the BEST conference in d3, but they have had their success and Nat'l Championships (83,84,85,86) which shows that the conference is historically very strong.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 05:48:09 PM
I would guess it's more like 50% former players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 11, 2006, 05:57:59 PM
Hey Pat,

Are you and Pat Cummings going to be  on the air covering the game at the Stagg Bowl?  I liked listening in to last year's game.  MR
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 06:38:29 PM
Yep.

2 p.m. ET
Pregame show, including All-American announcements
Gordon Mann, John McGraw, Pat Cummings

4 p.m. ET
Game coverage
Pat Coleman, Keith McMillan, Pat Cummings

After the game
Postgame coverage
All hands on deck, including postgame news conference and extra interviews, final summation of 2006 Division III football season
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ptownhero on December 11, 2006, 08:17:22 PM
If I am correct the cciw did not win a playoff game until 1982.  If I am correct the playoffs started in 1973.  So that leaves 9 years in there when the cciw lost 9 straight games in the playoffs or they were not in it at all.  The source I found just said they lost in 76 and 81 so that must mean they didnt even get a bid into the playoffs.  If you look the IBFC is 0-8 so I dont really think the conference is that far behind the cciw.  Since the teams that are currently in it did not form until the middle 90's.  If I am wrong let me know but I believe my information is correct.  So all the cciw fans on here can tell me if i am wrong, and we are a horrible conference still when you guys lost 9 straight years when are conference wasnt even formed with the teams we currently have.  Your conference has had the same teams except for 2 since the early 1940's. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 08:26:16 PM
They didn't lose nine straight years. There were only eight teams in the NCAA playoffs for most of those years and some years there were only FOUR.

The CCIW was never 0-9. It was all of 0-2 in the postseason at one point, then won its next two games.

The IBFC is far, far behind the CCIW. Please don't delude yourself into thinking it's a short trip. You don't just need facilities -- you need full-time coaches, you need good recruiting and you need student-athletes who are willing to work hard in the offseason instead of posting and making excuses for the lack of success of the league.

That's my piece.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 11, 2006, 09:50:57 PM
Cardinalalum-

I loved your "English Major" quote, I did snicker a little.

And Fatal-

Yeah, maybe I just won't read his posts anymore since I have seen better grammer and spelling in some 5th graders work.

Or maybe he is just an excited person and types fast, if so I apologize.  Parillo, where are you graduating from? Greenville, Lakeland?  I know it's a school in the IBC though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 11, 2006, 10:38:15 PM
Be honest Pat....taking a few minutes out of the day to read post patterns and post is not going to make or break a football teams season or build a conference to the next level....besides this site has a lot of support from current players...be it in post patterns or other sections...and I hate hearing that spending time on here is bad for current players (and its not just Pat's post it is a lot of post on a lot of post boards)...I posted for four years and had a great four year career...sorry IBFC for not staying off this site and carrying this conference to the National Championship...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ptownhero on December 11, 2006, 10:48:42 PM
How many teams were in it then because on the cciw site is says that in 1976 there was 4 teams in it. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 11:11:56 PM
http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 11:12:43 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on December 11, 2006, 09:50:57 PM
Cardinalalum-

I loved your "English Major" quote, I did snicker a little.

And Fatal-

Yeah, maybe I just won't read his posts anymore since I have seen better grammer and spelling in some 5th graders work.

Or maybe he is just an excited person and types fast, if so I apologize.  Parillo, where are you graduating from? Greenville, Lakeland?  I know it's a school in the IBC though.

I'm not usually one to correct other posts but since you started...You misspelled "grammar"

To those at the CCIW the way I've read it over there it ain't always that peaceful, if yall wanna stick your nose in the air and walk away fine.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 11:12:43 PM
I'm not usually one to correct other posts but since you started...You misspelled "grammar"

To those at the CCIW the way I've read it over there it ain't always that peaceful, if yall wanna stick your nose in the air and walk away fine.

I'm not walking away... We've basically been told to take a hike, so I'll respect that wish.  If others don't want us to be part of the discussion and would rather rant and live in their dream world where the IBC is a superior football conference, fine.

Personally I think the IBC has continued to improve.  Problem is they had a LONG way to go from the start, and still do.  Win a playoff game and that will go a long way.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 11, 2006, 11:57:54 PM
Ohhhhh








You got me
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 12, 2006, 02:17:29 AM
Quote from: ptownhero on December 11, 2006, 08:17:22 PMYour conference has had the same teams except for 2 since the early 1940's. 

You're wrong on that score as well, ptownhero. The CCIW has had three schools permanently drop out over the years (Illinois College, Lake Forest, and Carroll), three schools drop out in the 1950s and then come back into the fold a decade later (Carthage, Wheaton, and Elmhurst), and added another team in the early 1960s that has been a part of the league ever since (North Park).

The only schools that have been continuous members since the league was founded in 1946 are Augustana, Illinois Wesleyan, Millikin, and North Central.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 12, 2006, 09:55:44 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on December 11, 2006, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 11, 2006, 11:12:43 PM
I'm not usually one to correct other posts but since you started...You misspelled "grammar"

To those at the CCIW the way I've read it over there it ain't always that peaceful, if yall wanna stick your nose in the air and walk away fine.

I'm not walking away... We've basically been told to take a hike, so I'll respect that wish.  If others don't want us to be part of the discussion and would rather rant and live in their dream world where the IBC is a superior football conference, fine.

Personally I think the IBC has continued to improve.  Problem is they had a LONG way to go from the start, and still do.  Win a playoff game and that will go a long way.

Now you're just putting words in my mouth......I never said we were superior, I said that the CCIW needs to not always walk around like they're better than everyone else.....like when CUW beat NCC.....and I realize on the rematch it was the other way around.....but it is possible for someone from this conference to beat someone from the "untouchable" CCIW
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 12, 2006, 09:57:42 AM
And the only reason we want you to leave is because yall act like youre so much better than us, and we dont want that on here
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 12, 2006, 01:26:53 PM
Comparing the IBFC (NAC) to the CCIW is a waste of time right now.  The IBFC is not presently at the same level as the CCIW and has not been going back in history. 
Besides head to head scores, National Championships and playoff records, the CCIW has been getting 2 teams in the playoffs for a few years now.  I am not 100% sure on this one, but I would guess the 2 team entries are a result of just how tough the CCIW is.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: The Undertaker on December 12, 2006, 02:35:54 PM
I just would like to put my two cents in to the macmurray program.

I feel that the firing of the terrible head coach Brandon Mcray was the best thing that has ever happened to macmurray in a while. All he cared about was his prized athletes and pete ereg. Thats it, no one else on that team was ever good enough to speak to him, if you were not a top three athlete (pete, larry, neal) than you were sh@t.
The fact of the matter was that mcray never was ready to become the head coach and never should have been the head coach.

Larry P. you were a very over rated linebacker and scotty G. was so much better than you. Larry was just an average D3 linebacker, with a big mouth and terrible team attitude. All he cared about was his personal stats and making the aztec bowl, which he did not do, and never helped out the team in one bit. He was always yelling at coaches. This was the main problem with macmurray this year was larry.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 12, 2006, 02:57:45 PM
Quote from: The Undertaker on December 12, 2006, 02:35:54 PM
I just would like to put my two cents in to the macmurray program.

Larry P. you were a very over rated linebacker and scotty G. was so much better than you. Larry was just an average D3 linebacker, with a big mouth and terrible team attitude. All he cared about was his personal stats and making the aztec bowl, which he did not do, and never helped out the team in one bit. He was always yelling at coaches. This was the main problem with macmurray this year was larry.

<covering mouth with hand so I don't laugh too hard out loud>

And that's coming from someone that is obviously your teammate!!!   
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: tpoe on December 12, 2006, 03:43:52 PM
I just want to know what people think about this years Stagg Bowl. I am going with Whitewater.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on December 12, 2006, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: The Undertaker on December 12, 2006, 02:35:54 PM
I just would like to put my two cents in to the macmurray program.

I feel that the firing of the terrible head coach Brandon Mcray was the best thing that has ever happened to macmurray in a while. All he cared about was his prized athletes and pete ereg. Thats it, no one else on that team was ever good enough to speak to him, if you were not a top three athlete (pete, larry, neal) than you were sh@t.
The fact of the matter was that mcray never was ready to become the head coach and never should have been the head coach.

Larry P. you were a very over rated linebacker and scotty G. was so much better than you. Larry was just an average D3 linebacker, with a big mouth and terrible team attitude. All he cared about was his personal stats and making the aztec bowl, which he did not do, and never helped out the team in one bit. He was always yelling at coaches. This was the main problem with macmurray this year was larry.

Nice to see you're back HOWITIS.  First bashing Frey, now McCray?  You must be pretty salty for not getting to play or something.  Why don't you give this new guy a try and report back to us with your own personal account on how bad this guy sucks..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 12, 2006, 06:59:24 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on December 12, 2006, 01:26:53 PM
Comparing the IBFC (NAC) to the CCIW is a waste of time right now.  The IBFC is not presently at the same level as the CCIW and has not been going back in history. 
Besides head to head scores, National Championships and playoff records, the CCIW has been getting 2 teams in the playoffs for a few years now.  I am not 100% sure on this one, but I would guess the 2 team entries are a result of just how tough the CCIW is.

At least most of the schools in the CCIW we would have trouble with, but y'all make it sound like you're the best in the nation when all you do is beat the IBFC in the first round and usually tank in the second, with the most recent exception being Carthage.



Quote from: The Undertaker on December 12, 2006, 02:35:54 PM
I just would like to put my two cents in to the macmurray program.

I feel that the firing of the terrible head coach Brandon Mcray was the best thing that has ever happened to macmurray in a while. All he cared about was his prized athletes and pete ereg. Thats it, no one else on that team was ever good enough to speak to him, if you were not a top three athlete (pete, larry, neal) than you were sh@t.
The fact of the matter was that mcray never was ready to become the head coach and never should have been the head coach.

Larry P. you were a very over rated linebacker and scotty G. was so much better than you. Larry was just an average D3 linebacker, with a big mouth and terrible team attitude. All he cared about was his personal stats and making the aztec bowl, which he did not do, and never helped out the team in one bit. He was always yelling at coaches. This was the main problem with macmurray this year was larry.

Wow.....that trash aint needed....go name call somewhere else
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: The Undertaker on December 12, 2006, 08:28:10 PM
The fact of the matter Chris Crow is that your a baby just Like Rich Jackson, I guess kickers do stick together. I know for a fact that you were a major problem on the Mac football team when you were there, missing practice drinking before games and butting heads with the head coach. I also dont know who this HOW IT IS, if i was that person i would have posted already.

And yes I am a former player who did get to play but realized that mac needed a huge change and now that Mcray is gone this team will do so much better because the new coach wont recruit little girls like your self. How is Walmart treating you these days? I see that you got a great education.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2006, 11:17:44 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 12, 2006, 06:59:24 PM
At least most of the schools in the CCIW we would have trouble with, but y'all make it sound like you're the best in the nation when all you do is beat the IBFC in the first round and usually tank in the second, with the most recent exception being Carthage.

Hmm, that's not really necessary, fair, or accurate. If the IBFC ever gets far enough to play an OAC team you'll find out that it isn't exactly a "tank" job to lose that game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SonsofThunder on December 13, 2006, 02:22:45 AM
This board is ridiculous.  If it isn't a player talking his career into a joke by self proclaiming his accolades, it's someone else talking about CCIW "tank" jobs against the OAC, and further pushing their conference farther down the tubes of D3.  I would love to see a team from the IBC attempt to take the field against the likes of Mount Union.  Keep in mind the teams CCIW teams tank against are from what is considered to be the top conference in all of D3.  Have you ever heard of Mount Union?  They are that team from the OAC that will probably win their 9th National Championship in the last 14 years.  Although your conference champ CUW, a 10-0, did defeat a CCIW opponent in the pre-conference season, they got waxed in the first round of this year's playoffs by the same team.  How is it that you define tanking it? I am sure I'll have a negative karma fest for this post, but you all need to come down to earth and think about what you post.

As for what my man JayBird said on his most recent post, strength of conference reflects itself in the playoff field, and the CCIW has been putting in 2 for a few years now.  The IBC is lucky to get an autmoatic bid, much less a second pool C bid.

September 20th, 2007, the Thunder is gonna roll into CUW.  Let's see what your words are really made of.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on December 13, 2006, 08:59:41 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on December 12, 2006, 06:59:24 PM

Quote from: The Undertaker on December 12, 2006, 02:35:54 PM
I just would like to put my two cents in to the macmurray program.

Wow.....that trash aint needed....go name call somewhere else

Now that was funny. As soon as a I clean the coffee off my monitor ...

Heck, if someone wants to name call, the IBC board is exactly the place to go. If you wanna fight, IBC is where to go.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on December 13, 2006, 09:05:20 AM
Quote from: SonsofThunder on December 13, 2006, 02:22:45 AM
September 20th, 2007, the Thunder is gonna roll into CUW.  Let's see what your words are really made of.

I hope the Thunder doesn't roll into CUW on September 20, 2007. They'll have to wait a whole year.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 13, 2006, 10:10:10 AM
Everyone takes this board so serious....like this board makes a conference or a team...maybe it makes a player look bad but to define a whole conference by a website....lol
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on December 13, 2006, 10:30:27 AM
Quote from: The Undertaker on December 12, 2006, 08:28:10 PM
The fact of the matter Chris Crow is that your a baby just Like Rich Jackson, I guess kickers do stick together. I know for a fact that you were a major problem on the Mac football team when you were there, missing practice drinking before games and butting heads with the head coach. I also dont know who this HOW IT IS, if i was that person i would have posted already.

And yes I am a former player who did get to play but realized that mac needed a huge change and now that Mcray is gone this team will do so much better because the new coach wont recruit little girls like your self. How is Walmart treating you these days? I see that you got a great education.

Who the hell is Chris Crow?  You do realize that the 57 number can be worn by different people over the years right?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 13, 2006, 11:23:47 AM
I would really appreciate it if all of the IBFC supporters weren't included in this ridiculous talk of us being better than CCIW. I for one, don't want to be a part of it. I had stated earlier that I enjoy you guys from the CCIW conference coming over here and talking because half the things posted are intelligent.  Yes, I do support IBFC but come on guys, do you really think we are better than the CCIW because CUW defeated NC in the first game of their season? We do need to get back to reality and no, the posters on here don't make the conference look back because a website can't do that but it does make you as a fan of the IBFC look bad.

The whole calling out name thing isnt right, I won't lie, I have done it before and regret it. If you are a teammate of Larry you should maybe stop being such a girl and talk to him face to face instead of bashing him over the internet.

Pat, for once I actually agree with you...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 13, 2006, 11:34:45 AM
Fatal, I don't see any CCIW posters claiming our conference is the best in the nation and on their own "pedestal" above the others.  In fact, if you look at the posts from late Sep/Oct.  most of us admitted that the CCIW was not as strong this year, compared to the WIAC and OAC.
Losing to teams like Mt. Union, Capital, etc.  are not "bad" losses.  Yes they are losses and we would prefer to have won these games,  but these are losses to quality teams that go deep(est) in the playoffs annually.
Concordia-WI and Lakeland are two schools that are starting to branch out and get more developed. That is great and for the IBFC/NAC's sake I hope the others can develop as well.  But at the present time, there are only 2-3 schools that are really capable of making some noise in other conferences/playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on December 13, 2006, 02:14:55 PM
in regards to what was said earliar, Opinions are funny but it is evident that there is HATER that use to or is still a player from mac and if i am correct that it is our fullback greg sphuler, I guess he got mad because i would blow his ass up in practice everyday and embarrass him bc he wasa always in the weight room but always got rolled when trying to hit me sooo................its good that i have or had HATERS bc its just lets me know that i was doing a good job!! I will say that it is COWARDLY to talk junk of the internet so if that person truley does know me, He knows where i live and he can bring his butt over to my apartment and talk this foolishness to my face!! so Thanks buddy your opinion is well noted and i truley care about how you feel man!! HAHAHAHA ;)  :D

Remind me to get upset :D

Have a wonderfull Christmas everyone and good luck to athletes coming back in there offseason lifting!!! CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE WON IN THE OFFSEASON!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 13, 2006, 06:36:42 PM
Who is CUW playing Sept. 20th?

Wheaton??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SonsofThunder on December 13, 2006, 07:23:04 PM
Yes, Wheaton, in 2008.  My mistake.  I jumped the gun a little.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: The Undertaker on December 13, 2006, 08:03:29 PM
First of all LARRY, Greg S. has more class than you ever will. He actually tried in practice where as you sat out with your thumb up your butt next to Smith holding onto him like he was your security blanket. You always wanted to sit out at practice and run your mouth, but hey what else is new with Larry P. I just want to know how you are graduating from Mac when you have the worst english and spelling in the world. I fear for the employer when they hire you. You have to acutally sound smart when talking. I also would like to know larry how the aztec bowl is going....Oh wait you didnt get invited. Which means you are an average d3 linebacker. Hey larry how is the pot smoking going, cause you have never stopped since you have been here, during the season is larrys only time he can smoke it to erase his memories of gettting run over by every team he faced.

As for mac 5 and 7 sorry i thought you were some other cry baby on the team. How can you say that Frey did any good here. He lowered standards to get scum into that college and was a bully to his players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on December 13, 2006, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: The Undertaker on December 13, 2006, 08:03:29 PM
First of all LARRY, Greg S. has more class than you ever will. He actually tried in practice where as you sat out with your thumb up your butt next to Smith holding onto him like he was your security blanket. You always wanted to sit out at practice and run your mouth, but hey what else is new with Larry P. I just want to know how you are graduating from Mac when you have the worst english and spelling in the world. I fear for the employer when they hire you. You have to acutally sound smart when talking. I also would like to know larry how the aztec bowl is going....Oh wait you didnt get invited. Which means you are an average d3 linebacker. Hey larry how is the pot smoking going, cause you have never stopped since you have been here, during the season is larrys only time he can smoke it to erase his memories of gettting run over by every team he faced.

As for mac 5 and 7 sorry i thought you were some other cry baby on the team. How can you say that Frey did any good here. He lowered standards to get scum into that college and was a bully to his players.

C'mon Undertaker now thats too much info...it sounds to me that you have a problem with L.P. or what not, some of these things you should address him personally about, but IMO I think it's just foolish to say some of the things you are saying about your own teammate (I'm assuming). 

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 13, 2006, 11:48:35 PM
79,
I never said we were better, it's just that most people i talk to from the CCIW believe they are so high and mighty, they put themselves on a pedestal and I dont like that, be humble, Most of them need a reality check......And by tank I meant they just lose....most of the time big
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 14, 2006, 12:57:40 AM
Undertaker, pretty hilarious stuff there.

Were you talking about Parillo?  I guess now I know where he goes to school, which shows that MAC doesn't require much to graduate.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 14, 2006, 09:35:11 AM
Fatal, I guess we have talked to different (CCIW) people, because the CCIW fans/people I have talked to are pretty respectful of the other CCIW schools and the rest of D-3.  Sure there are some isolated shovanists but that is everywhere in life.  The majority of the people associated with the CCIW are very humble.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 14, 2006, 09:40:41 AM
79,
It's just a few people.....But sometimes I find it a little disrespectful, there is only a slight few and, the way some of the people from the CCIW board came over hear and have talked a little smack or have come over and just give the implication that the CCIW was superior....And I found it a little bit dis respectful
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 14, 2006, 09:42:46 AM
Undertaker,
You need to take that stuff somewhere else thats uncalled for and low, ya need to stop talking like that on here
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 14, 2006, 10:06:28 AM
People please enough with this retoric, calling out others for what ever reasons you may have and then saying things they do on campus is childish. Larry was a good LB, Wagner is a good LB and JR is by far the best LB ib the conference this yr. John deserved everything he received and his coaches promoted that. Don't blame the athlete for that, your coaches should have pushed harder. JR you are a first rate LB and should be on the list hands down you were my player of the year. As for the CCIW, great conference and proved that yr in and out. Lakeland always played them though but they were the victors in the end, take nothing away from that conference.

Gomer still kicking even thou Fords isn't. You and your family have a great Christmas and Happy New Year My Politically Correct! as to everyone else as well God bless all of You.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on December 14, 2006, 10:10:37 AM
Looks like we got a jealous person that talks a bunch of bull!! I cant believe the stuff that this kid is saying.....All i got to say is this, whatever you may hear about me, my dad always said actions speak louder than words......I think my actions on and off the field have proven my success as far as accolades, gaining respect from my peers, and reading to elmentry school kids off the frield!!! What this a**hole is saying is crazy and its jealousy! sorry bro, you got a lot of hate in your heart, again, if you really know me bc what you have been saying is proven that you really dont, Come to my appartment, (EASTLAWN) and say this junk to my face. other than that i dont want to hear BS!!

I am sorry that eveyone in the conference has to read this BS but this is why are team wasnt successfull this year, Teammates refuse to follow their leaders!!! They wanted to do there own thing and bad mouth players who leave there heart on the feild!!! Everyone that seen me play can testify to that!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: langston92 on December 14, 2006, 10:55:54 AM
I just want to thank cuw for all of the memories.  Thanks to the seniors and underclassmen at concordia.  We have a lot of work to do in the off-season and I know that it will get done.  Thank the IFBC for allowing me the opportunity to showcase my ability on the field.  Good luck to everyone next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 14, 2006, 01:02:27 PM
Fatal--  agreed, and I would feel the same way if people from other conferences would start boasting on the CCIW as well.  IMO, there is no need for shovanism, trash talking, or "sore winners" anywhere in sports, at any level.  You win with grace, and you lose with grace.

Langston92,  nice post and best of luck to you and CUW  + Karma for FINALLY a great post!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on December 14, 2006, 01:10:12 PM
Larry, it is Spuhler.  If you want to know what I think about you come ask (not like you will because you dont care).  and ouch bro about the weight room comment.  I know that I am not a good Athlete and that I have to work for what I get and yeah you are a better athlete than me and I respect that but what really upsets me is that you might have been so much better then what you where.  Not to say that you werent good but I am just saying that maybe you could have been a whole lot better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on December 14, 2006, 01:18:44 PM
Quote from: The Undertaker on December 13, 2006, 08:03:29 PM
First of all LARRY, Greg S. has more class than you ever will. He actually tried in practice where as you sat out with your thumb up your butt next to Smith holding onto him like he was your security blanket. You always wanted to sit out at practice and run your mouth, but hey what else is new with Larry P. I just want to know how you are graduating from Mac when you have the worst english and spelling in the world. I fear for the employer when they hire you. You have to acutally sound smart when talking. I also would like to know larry how the aztec bowl is going....Oh wait you didnt get invited. Which means you are an average d3 linebacker. Hey larry how is the pot smoking going, cause you have never stopped since you have been here, during the season is larrys only time he can smoke it to erase his memories of gettting run over by every team he faced.

As for mac 5 and 7 sorry i thought you were some other cry baby on the team. How can you say that Frey did any good here. He lowered standards to get scum into that college and was a bully to his players.

You keep saying that he was a bully to his players, any particular instances?  The guy was there the entire four years I was at Mac, two as DC and two as HC.  Never once did I ever consider him a bully.  All he wanted was the best out of his guys and for them to be mentally/physically tough, therefore he was hard on his guys.  From the way you come on here and run your mouth, I serioulsy doubt you were either..

About the standards, I would bet that there are a lot of teams there that have questionable guys show up in the fall.  By the way, were you even at MacMurray when he was there? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 14, 2006, 03:02:19 PM
It starts to get old when you come on here to read something and there are two knew pages of posts and it consists of the same garbage. I think every conference has those fans that are not humble winners...some people have to boast to make themselves feel better.

Langston, best of luck to you after graduation...if you ever read again, what are your plans??? Are you going to try to play football anywhere?

everyone have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on December 14, 2006, 03:35:23 PM
Quote from: langston92 on December 14, 2006, 10:55:54 AM
I just want to thank cuw for all of the memories.  Thanks to the seniors and underclassmen at concordia.  We have a lot of work to do in the off-season and I know that it will get done.  Thank the IFBC for allowing me the opportunity to showcase my ability on the field.  Good luck to everyone next year.

It was a pleasure watching you play twice against NCC. +karma and goof luck.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 14, 2006, 04:38:03 PM
*supposed rumor running around CUC if anyone cares....D-coordinator quit.

this, if true has been a problem CUC has had, if this team was able to keep coaches and players, they would be up there with lakeland and CUW and I am pretty confident in saying that. When a team goes through 3 head coaches in the past 4 years, it doesn't help a program or the players having to learn something new every year and adjust to new ways. Thank God for Coach Pries though, he is a great coach and a great man and will keep his players heads up if this is true. Good luck to all you CUC players in your off season, I know you are working hard.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 14, 2006, 05:47:04 PM
Maybe not up there with Lakeland or CUW if coaches would stay, but pretty close I do agree.

It's the same thing every year at CUC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on December 14, 2006, 06:16:39 PM
Be sure your info is valid before you post on here...You know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: usee on December 14, 2006, 11:33:19 PM
Keep in mind it takes time to produce a solid conference from top to bottom. The CCIW has been around a long time and every school has committed resources to being competitive. The IBC has had some good teams off and on over the years but as a whole not every school has committed the necessary resources to compete at a higher level. It doesn't happen season to season. You see it over time. I don't see that changing in the near future but there are some schools with great coaches and facilities in the IBC. You are headed in the right direction but there is a long gap to make up.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 15, 2006, 10:15:07 AM
Usee makes a good point.  Looking at the CCIW from 1980-2003  the CCIW was dominated by 4 of the 8 schools (Augie, Wheaton, IWU, Millikin)  the other 4 were no match for these 4 powerhouses.  Only recently have the other 4 schools joined the party with Carthage in 2004 and North Central this year.  The point here is that it takes committment, coaching, good recruiting classes, and a positive attitude to help build a program into contention.
Concordia seemed to start to turn the corner this year under Pries.  I hope that rumor about the coach leaving is not true, because you don't want any distractions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 15, 2006, 11:15:42 AM
I would have to agree with your comment about the rumor concerning the CUC coach who might be leaving.  That is always tough when coaching staffs change frequently, but it is the nature of the DIII business.  It appears from his bio that he has moved around quite a bit already.  The dilemma is constantly there for these young coaches who have to make a choice - do you want to stay at one place for your career with all the tradition that involves and move up the ladder there, or do you want to do the latter going from school to school until you obtain a possible head coach position, if that is your goal?  Obviously, it is much easier in either situation for the young single coaches (and/or perhaps those with wives, but no children yet) who may have no additional "attachments" and/or responsibilities before starting ones family.  On the other hand, the DIII salary structure is a factor and difficult for them, although, again, not as bad perhaps for a young, single, assistant coach starting out.

At any rate, no doubt people are curious as to what the CUC coache's aspirations are? (going back to his home region/roots, or moving up the ladder elsewhere).  It will be interesting to see what happens, although sounds like Pries has put a good staff in place and hopefully he (and CUC) can keep them together.  You "insiders" on this board please keep us "outsiders" posted. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on December 15, 2006, 04:48:09 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ALL, :D

Putting the rock away until next season.

PS: AU takes it all in 07 - nice way to end the IBFC

PSS: Congrats to AU #26 for winning the 06 Jim Scott Award

Last but not least - Thanks for a great season Coach Duncan.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on December 15, 2006, 08:43:10 PM
MACMURRAY GOING DOWN HILL GET OUT!!!!!! NEW AD WANTS HEADCOACH OF FOOTBALL BREAKING NEWS ....# 9 ALL-AMERICAN HANDS DOWN ALSO HE STARS IN BACK DOOR BASHERS 9 COMING TO UR LOCAL STORE ????BUT HAVE HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE AND GOMER PYLE SUCKS A PROGRAM IS CHANGING WHO KNOWS WHERE IT IS GOING
HAHAHAHA   WHATS UP LP ITS A NICE  75 DEG DOWN HERE
hope mac gets that program up to where it was...AD i hope u do the right things call me if u need help
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on December 15, 2006, 10:20:02 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on December 15, 2006, 08:43:10 PM
MACMURRAY GOING DOWN HILL GET OUT!!!!!! NEW AD WANTS HEADCOACH OF FOOTBALL BREAKING NEWS ....# 9 ALL-AMERICAN HANDS DOWN ALSO HE STARS IN BACK DOOR BASHERS 9 COMING TO UR LOCAL STORE ????BUT HAVE HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE AND GOMER PYLE SUCKS A PROGRAM IS CHANGING WHO KNOWS WHERE IT IS GOING
HAHAHAHA   WHATS UP LP ITS A NICE  75 DEG DOWN HERE
hope mac gets that program up to where it was...AD i hope u do the right things call me if u need help

??? How exactly does one decipher this message?  Is English 100 required for graduation at Mac?  This is a period......................  This lesson may be helpful down the road when you try to get a job!  8)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: usee on December 16, 2006, 05:09:54 AM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on December 15, 2006, 10:20:02 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on December 15, 2006, 08:43:10 PM
MACMURRAY GOING DOWN HILL GET OUT!!!!!! NEW AD WANTS HEADCOACH OF FOOTBALL BREAKING NEWS ....# 9 ALL-AMERICAN HANDS DOWN ALSO HE STARS IN BACK DOOR BASHERS 9 COMING TO UR LOCAL STORE ????BUT HAVE HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE AND GOMER PYLE SUCKS A PROGRAM IS CHANGING WHO KNOWS WHERE IT IS GOING
HAHAHAHA   WHATS UP LP ITS A NICE  75 DEG DOWN HERE
hope mac gets that program up to where it was...AD i hope u do the right things call me if u need help

??? How exactly does one decipher this message?  Is English 100 required for graduation at Mac?  This is a period......................  This lesson may be helpful down the road when you try to get a job!  8)

actually most of the messages I get like this are labeled "SPAM" in my inbox.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 18, 2006, 12:59:31 AM
Wow, that's 2 posters from MAC who have issues with the English language


coincidence???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on December 18, 2006, 10:34:45 AM
Ease off on the ENGLISH stuff man, if you want to correct other peoples post and call people on what they wrote than go to the Webster Dictionary website or one of those "English 101," websites and correct the grammer in their post rooms, other than that THIS IS A FOOTBALL POST ROOM!! FOOTBALL..........Not english 101 room you DOOSH BAG!!! By the way the two people you are talking about, did it on the field (earning reciever of the year and both 2 time 1st all conference selections) as well as in the class room (both recieved degrees), so what is your objective here?? To tell us we arent going to be successfull bc of the post we write to do with football. School i could understand but football, come on! That sh*t is weak!! come to this room with valuable stuff to say other than....."drrrrrrrrr, How bout that grammer, ahaha." You are funny as well as your meaningless post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 18, 2006, 11:03:46 AM
Ok.....ok....sorry......sorry

Never once did Cardinal or myself say that you would never be successful.  That was all talk by yourself, not us.

I was just making a statement about MAC and how there doesn't seem to be much of a requirement to graduate...........haha, which I guess indrectly pertained to the both of you, ah well.  But hey seriously then, congratulations on graduation, I think more college students drop out (or don't even go) then graduate when it's all said and done (in my opinion). 

Ooook, this ones been bugging me on your post.....Douche Bag not Doosh.

I had to do it, but I am done now, no more on this subject.  I had to have a little fun with it though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 18, 2006, 11:23:57 AM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on December 18, 2006, 10:34:45 AM
Ease off on the ENGLISH stuff man, if you want to correct other peoples post and call By the way the two people you are talking about, did it on the field (earning reciever of the year and both 2 time 1st all conference selections) as well as in the class room (both recieved degrees), so what is your objective here??

one more thing...kind of elementary and this is just a joke. Ever hear of I before E except after C? Yea, okay and done...this wasn't posted to offend, just to be funny. Now on to football stuff.

I was shocked by the final score of the UW-W/ MT. U game. I only watched the first half and thought it was a very good half but turned it off because I didn't really care. But, to see the final score surprised me and MT. U must of layed the bricks the second half. As for CUC's rumor of D-cord quitting...haven't heard any more rumors as of yet Usee but I will definately keep this board updated if I happen to hear anything.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 18, 2006, 01:50:14 PM
"I only watched the first half and thought it was very good half, but TURNED IT OFF  ???   because I DIDN'T REALLY CARE  ???

Marcus, then you aren't a true die-hard D-3 Football Fan!  The Stagg is the last D-3 game of the year and the lay-off is a long time, before next August.   I had the television and the internet broadcast tuned in.  I had the ESPN crew on mute,which I have heard was a good thing, b/c according to Pam Ward there are 12 men on the field. :P  5-2-5 defense.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: New Tradition on December 18, 2006, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on December 18, 2006, 10:34:45 AM
Ease off on the ENGLISH stuff man, if you want to correct other peoples post and call people on what they wrote than go to the Webster Dictionary website or one of those "English 101," websites and correct the grammer in their post rooms, other than that THIS IS A FOOTBALL POST ROOM!! FOOTBALL..........Not english 101 room you DOOSH BAG!!! By the way the two people you are talking about, did it on the field (earning reciever of the year and both 2 time 1st all conference selections) as well as in the class room (both recieved degrees), so what is your objective here?? To tell us we arent going to be successfull bc of the post we write to do with football. School i could understand but football, come on! That sh*t is weak!! come to this room with valuable stuff to say other than....."drrrrrrrrr, How bout that grammer, ahaha." You are funny as well as your meaningless post.

I don't think that anyone on here is a stickler for grammar, but I do believe that if someone is on here trying to make a point, as I believe you were, people would be more willing to listen to your argument if your post is clear, concise, and grammatically accurate.  No one wants to have to sort through a 3 paragraph long run-on sentence to find your somewhat coherent point hidden somewhere in it.  Regardless of how you feel about grammar, you still represent your institution and your program when you post on here.  I believe that the other posters would appreciate it, as, I am sure, would your coaches and teammates, if you were a little more careful about how you word some of the points that you are trying to get across on this message board.  People would also probably be more willing to listen to your argument rather than focus on the grammatical aspect of your post.  Although it may seem like it at times, I am sure that no disrespect is intended by any of the posters from the CCIW site.  They are just trying to help you not sound like a fool.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 18, 2006, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on December 18, 2006, 01:50:14 PM
"I only watched the first half and thought it was very good half, but TURNED IT OFF  ???   because I DIDN'T REALLY CARE  ???

Marcus, then you aren't a true die-hard D-3 Football Fan!  The Stagg is the last D-3 game of the year and the lay-off is a long time, before next August.   I had the television and the internet broadcast tuned in.  I had the ESPN crew on mute,which I have heard was a good thing, b/c according to Pam Ward there are 12 men on the field. :P  5-2-5 defense.

AGGHHHH, come on jaybird. I didn't mean for it to come off as offensive. I had worked a graduation from 8-1 before that and was dead tired. But, you are right...how could I be a true die hard D-3 fan if I shut off the Championship game? No excuse...I am still however a D3 football fan, just lost the die-hard. :-\
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on December 18, 2006, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on December 18, 2006, 01:50:14 PM
"I only watched the first half and thought it was very good half, but TURNED IT OFF  ???   because I DIDN'T REALLY CARE  ???

Marcus, then you aren't a true die-hard D-3 Football Fan!  The Stagg is the last D-3 game of the year and the lay-off is a long time, before next August.   I had the television and the internet broadcast tuned in.  I had the ESPN crew on mute,which I have heard was a good thing, b/c according to Pam Ward there are 12 men on the field. :P  5-2-5 defense.

I thought it to be a pleasure to watch as well.  They could have done better with Pam Ward and Mike Gottfreid sounded drunk at times.  That Pierre Garcon has some serious speed and made some huge catches..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 18, 2006, 04:46:08 PM
Gottfried may have had a stroke in recent years was talk on another board. I am sure I had more to drink before the game (about a shot glass full of beer at Stone Station) than he did.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 19, 2006, 12:52:30 AM
New Tradition-


Wow, well said my friend.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: New Tradition on December 19, 2006, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on December 19, 2006, 12:52:30 AM
New Tradition-


Wow, well said my friend.



Thanks!  Some people who are new to the board just need some help sometimes.  I know I am relatively new myself, but as a player I read for a loooooooooong time before I started posting after my career ended, so I think I got a pretty good handle for how one should conduct himself (or herself for our female posters) on here.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on December 19, 2006, 09:41:42 AM
Quote from: 79jaybird on December 18, 2006, 01:50:14 PM
Marcus, then you aren't a true die-hard D-3 Football Fan!  The Stagg is the last D-3 game of the year and the lay-off is a long time, before next August.   I had the television and the internet broadcast tuned in.  I had the ESPN crew on mute,which I have heard was a good thing, b/c according to Pam Ward there are 12 men on the field. :P  5-2-5 defense.

Pam Ward also had a hard time with "Berezowitz." But I'd give her points for tenacity -- everytime she pronounced it incorrectly, she would dive right back in there and pronounce it correctly. Ward also had Garcon playing for UWW in the first quarter. I got the impression that Ward did not prepare very much for the game. This surprised me because I thought she had done a decent job when she was doing Big Ten games a few years ago. My impression was that Ward and Gottfried expect a Pop Warner game and actually got two very good college football teams.

If Pam Ward does the game next year, we'll have to establish rules for a drinking game - she left a lot of material to work with.  :D

They did talk about Justin Beaver's background (being raised by his grandparents). It had similarities to the Jim Jodat story, for those from Carthage who remember Jodat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 19, 2006, 02:20:49 PM
To Anyone Who Cares:
It is official here at CUC that the D-coordinator is gone. He was offered a job up in Minnesota at a NAIA school with a former coach as an O-coordinator. If he would of stayed at CUC, there would of been obvious differences because of his attitude and what he brought to the table. I wish him all the luck in the world because I thought he was a respectable coach. I know Coach Pries will find another coach with the same if not better traits as him.

KEEP WORKING HARD COUGARS
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 19, 2006, 05:24:26 PM
Marcus I was just pulling your chain.
Pam Ward- I give her credit for trying.  I would think it would be hard as a Woman to be able to broadcast such a prestigious event like the Stagg Bowl.

Sorry to hear that the D-Coordinator is leaving CUC.  I think the Cougars need 3-4 years of "solidity/stability" where they can start to build some momentum. 
With the change, now the Cougars have to start learning a new system, and it's back to square one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 19, 2006, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on December 19, 2006, 02:20:49 PM
To Anyone Who Cares:
It is official here at CUC that the D-coordinator is gone. He was offered a job up in Minnesota at a NAIA school with a former coach as an O-coordinator. If he would of stayed at CUC, there would of been obvious differences because of his attitude and what he brought to the table. I wish him all the luck in the world because I thought he was a respectable coach. I know Coach Pries will find another coach with the same if not better traits as him.

KEEP WORKING HARD COUGARS

Thanks for the follow-up.  Was wondering what the situation was.  Guess that proves that "blood" is "thicker than water". ;) as that old saying goes.  Seriously, though, if he had connections with a former coaching colleague, that certainly is a personal consideration that factors into one's decision to leave/make a change and is very understandable, other factors not withstanding (i.e. perhaps salary, location, etc.).  On the other hand, at least for me, not sure why he would want to go to an NAIA program and leave a promising, upcoming DIII program, even if at CUC. ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 19, 2006, 11:11:27 PM
Jeez, same old same old at CUC.

I just hate to see it, I really want them to do some good things in the upcoming years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 20, 2006, 12:41:36 AM
let me make a correction here...I think previously I said he was going to Minnesota which is false, it is in Iowa near Nebraska. It is a NAIA school and it was an offer from a former colleague...must of just been an offer he couldn't pass up!!!

Baseman, I know you used to go here and are used to these situations but this is kind of different...I think Pries will have things under control and even though the D-cord is gone, Pries was the one who ran the defense. I am sure he already has plans for the upcoming season and I know Janousky is ready to build more onto his offense as there may be some new additions to the offensive line...look for this to be one of the better aspects of this young CUC team. This O-line will be like no other that CUC has ever had...keep your support for them as I will also....

7400West, where you at man?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on December 20, 2006, 11:05:49 PM
Baseman: You are wrong, it is not same old same old.

Marcus: You are right. These new coaches have things under control and we are continuing to move forward.  Yeah Coach Gerhing is a great coach and did some really good things here at CUC.  But CUC is NOT taking any steps backwards here.  Yeah, the timing may be bad because the players are gone for christmas break already, and many of them arent aware of this yet.  But not to worry, the coaches are handling this the right way and all is well in both parties (CUC and Gerhing).  As I always say......

Cougs Will Win!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on December 21, 2006, 09:42:44 AM
Don't know if anyone caught it, but Greenville got some pretty good press this morning on the Today Show.  Nothing about there athletic programs though..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on December 21, 2006, 09:51:27 AM
CURF lost a coach?  No way!  How did this happen?  They were getting things together over there.  That's a crying shame.  I like their chances this season. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 21, 2006, 11:04:55 AM
CUC seems to go through many things every year just pushing them backwards but this however is not the case with Coach Gerhing leaving. Like Cougs said, there is no bad blood between Gerhing and CUC, it was an opportunity for him and I am sure any assistant coach would take a better opportunity. The timing was bad though, its going to be rough when the players come back from winter break and find their D coordinator gone. This will not stop the Cougs from doing what they have been doing in the off season. I guess the next question is.....Who will be hired at the defensive coordinator position??? Knowing Coach Pries, it will be someone with more experience and just as good of an attitude as Gerhing had.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone, I won't be posting again till 07!!! ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 23, 2006, 12:56:47 PM
Hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. 
Sorry to hear that CUC is losing one of their coaches.  I think Coach Pries will find a good replacement and build on 2006's success.
Benedictine will be better, but will they be able to put it together and reach 500 or better?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on December 24, 2006, 12:11:11 AM
question to all,

which offense in the conference do you least like to face based scheme, not talent?
which defense in the conference do you least like to face based on scheme, not talent?

No voting for your own team...

Offense- CUW. Offense is different, they do option and wing t. good playaction schemes with deep throws.

Defense - Benedictine - do a lot of variety. smart coaches. always has a good game plan on paper. Just can't execute just yet.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on December 28, 2006, 10:42:31 AM
I'm back baby!! I have not posted in a long time!

I would like to wish Coach G all the luck in the world on whatever he is doing!

I would like to say that this happens a lot a CUC and as long as the Head Coach is in place then the team has a Chance. Don't get me wrong, but the whole point of coaching as a career is to one day be Charlie Wies! By that I mean being a head coach and making boatloads of money, if coach G could not see himself here (CUC) doing that then best of luck at an NAIA school! I will say that as long as Coach P is sitting in the Head Coach chair then CUC is in good shape. It is when Head coaches move on that really hurts a program, but that is not the case and I am more excited about this up coming season then any other.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 28, 2006, 03:15:19 PM
AMEN
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on December 29, 2006, 03:56:55 PM
it is dead in here...nothing to talk about really. how is everyone, have a good Christmas?

hope you all have a happy new year and are all safe...take care!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on December 30, 2006, 08:40:41 AM
Do any of you posters have xbox 360, and if so what is your gametag, i would like to play you all in some ncaa football 07 sometime. it would at least give marcus and i and all of us something to talk about!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 30, 2006, 10:21:48 AM
Hey 7400, mine is: badonkadonky82

Send me a friend invite
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 31, 2006, 10:24:55 AM
JayBird and others who bring up Pam Ward.

How awful is she  She was doing a West Virginia-South Florida game earlier in the season and she started making things up in the middle of the game about players and coach Rodriguez of WVU.  And I only saw the end of the championship game but I can only imagine how awful she was once again.  I mean is she really their only option?  And once again yesterday I believe she was doing the Meineke Car Care bowl and they had George Foreman in the booth.  It may have been the most dumbness in the same enclosed area ever recorded.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on December 31, 2006, 12:08:14 PM
BUFan,  I was watching the Navy/BC game.  I give Pam Ward credit for standing up and trying to be a good announcer.  On a scale of 1-10  (10 being the best) I would give her a 6- 6.5 because she is able to follow the game, and tell the audience the important points.  I agree with you that when she gets trapped into a corner, she makes stuff up and/or alters the truth to get her out of the bunker.
I was laughing more at the commercial with George Foreman and the Meineke President.  Hasn't George done enough for Meineke and earned enough $$?
I felt so bad for Navy which is one of my favorite teams in Division I.  I have lost a game like this once in High School, where all we had to do was run out the clock.  We lost our game b/c our goofy QB decided he wanted one more TD pass, and was consequently intercepted, leading to the GW FG.
I am looking forward to the Rose Bowl Game between USC and Michigan.  I don't like either team, but I think this is going to be a great, hard fought, close game.
Happy New Year and all the best in 2007 to this board.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 31, 2006, 02:33:30 PM
jaybird:
It is indeed great to see Navy do well, and a disappointment for sure to lose a game that way as you point out.  On the other hand, what a great storybook ending for a walk-on kicker to win the game, and especially after the adversity BC went through the last 3 weeks after O'Brian left for NC State and having their coordinator be interim head coach.  Although there are way too many bowl games like most people have discussed on the various boards here of recent, there have been some pretty exciting games with last minute wins and big comebacks.  Just goes to show that that old Doug Flutie "Hail Mary" comeback still lives!  What's that old saying (you know, the one from the guy from Chicago White Sox player/announcer, Jimmy?? - "It ain't over until the Fat Lady sings"!! ;D)

Signed,
Royal Campbell
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 01, 2007, 03:42:18 AM
I thought Pam really struggled with Navy's option and I could see why people were concerned about the health of the color analyst.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on January 01, 2007, 08:30:33 PM
OK michigan people where ya at?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 01, 2007, 09:19:06 PM
USC-Michigan game was fun to watch for the first half, but second half got a little boring/frusterating (unless you wanted to see USC win).  Boise State-Oklahoma game right now is looking like an upset to me!! Should be a fun one to watch.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on January 01, 2007, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on January 01, 2007, 09:19:06 PM
USC-Michigan game was fun to watch for the first half, but second half got a little boring/frusterating (unless you wanted to see USC win).  Boise State-Oklahoma game right now is looking like an upset to me!! Should be a fun one to watch.
Quote from: bufan on January 01, 2007, 08:30:33 PM
OK michigan people where ya at?

I would agree about the first half, although it was still not a great one by any means for Michigan.  To answer you question, bufan, we're all hiding, burying our heads in the sand.  That was simply a very ugly performance by Michigan - horrible offensive blocking and terrible secondary play in all aspects.  As much as I would have liked to see them in an OSU/Mich rematch for the N.C., I am now very glad they were not chosen for the latter. ;D :-[

BTW, what do any of you think about Mason's firing at Minnesota?  I do not often agree with Mark May on ESPN's College Football, however, I did this time with regard to his comments/opinion on that, if any of you happened to catch that today.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 02, 2007, 12:40:10 PM
I live in Minnesota, so all I hear now is if the Gophers should have fired Mason.  I totally think the U of M did the right thing in firing Mason, even if he did just sign his new contract last year.  Last year was big news trying to get him signed and everyone was going crazy about the possibility of him not coming back.  Now, nearly everyone in Minnesota is glad that he is gone. 

Yeah, Mason was a good coach and totally turned around the program, but he never could get the Gophers to be one of the best Big Ten teams.  Yeah they had some good teams, but we were always the best of the worst teams in the Big Ten.  Also Mason could never win the big games.  He won a few big games, but never got a big win to put the Gophers up at the top with the rest of them.  Also on his resume is the many big time collapses.  The Gophers have had big leads in many games, only to collapse and lose the game.  They were killing Michigan a few years back at the Dome, they were up by 28 in the 3rd quater, only to let them comeback and win the game.  Needless to say the huuuuuge comeback by Texas Tech the other day in the bowl game. 

Mason would have been fine and still the Gophers coach had they won that game, but that huuuuuge collapse (biggest come from behind win in any D-1 bowl game in history) was the final straw for Mason.  Being a Minnesotan and huge Gophers fan, I think it was the right move to send Mason packing.  I loved him as a coach, but it was always frusterating to see the Gophs lose nearly every big game and lose those games that were nearly won.  I also was sick of watching the Gophers make crappy bowl game after crappy bowl game, winning about half of them, but blowing every other one.  Its time for a new era in Gopher football, and the Gophers are going to sign a coach that will make them Big Ten contenders. 


Sorry for the long disposition on Gopher football, but Im a huge fan and a Minnesotan  ;D

M-I-N-N-E-S-O-T-A...MINNESOTA...MINNESOTA...YEEEAAAHHH GOPHERS!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on January 02, 2007, 01:36:03 PM
formerd3db-- Royal Campbell, I like that!  I think by far the best Bowl Game was last night's Boise State/Oklahoma contest.  What a great example of heart and never say die attitude by the Broncos.  If there is a will, there's a way approach.  I too gave Boston College credit for coming back and capitalizing on their opportunity.  The kid that was a walk on- wins it   was a great story also.

With Pam Ward... media positions are a hostile environment.  There are always going to be the listeners that chew you up, criticize, and give you pointers.  You have to expect that as it comes with the territory.  I take criticism in stride and welcome other's thoughts.  Then you sort out the ones that DO make sense and can help you improve, versus the ones that are PUT DOWNS as opposed to constructive criticism.    I don't mind Paw Ward as long as her commentating is "to the point" and I can follow the game through her thoughts.

Any word(s) on Concordia and if they have hired a new coach?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 02, 2007, 07:14:11 PM
CUC has not hired a new defensive coach yet, at least to my knowledge.  They have however hired a new Graduate Assistant.  Thats is basically the extent of the news coming from Cougar Camp.  Everything else is going real well with recruiting and off-season workouts/attitudes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 05, 2007, 01:21:48 PM
Man, this party sure died.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on January 05, 2007, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on January 05, 2007, 01:21:48 PM
Man, this party sure died.

you're a b00b ;)

all the bowl games have been disappointing except for the Boise/ Oklahoma game. that was a great game and actually kept my interest. As for my Irish...man, WTF? I knew they were going to lose but for as good of an offense they have, no scoring in the 2 half? Bogus. Congrats to LSU though and their freakish qb. the championship better be good and as of now I could care less who wins, it just better be a good game.

baseman...you have a live account??? play Gears yet....if the answer is yes, i will maybe send you a request...you will be shocked ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on January 06, 2007, 09:51:04 AM
OxyBob I  love the call out there of Mr Ypsi's quote.  Great work.  I dont think I have enough time to do that to everything that was said about how great michigan was.  Unfortunately the Big Ten has won 2 games thus far(PSU and Wis) which is fine, a blind squirrel has to find a nut once in a while, or i guess two in this case.  At any rate,  I do root for the Buckeyes but that is no gimme and even if they win, it will not justify the horrific performance the Big Ten has put on.  But how bout that supposed overrated Big East?  4-0 with one game left.  Winners of the Bowl Championship thingy.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on January 07, 2007, 04:20:15 PM
As of 1/7/07 Concordia has not named a new Coach.  Coach Pries told me that they are accepting resumes and are being rather "selective" in their process.  They are looking for a few particulars that will fit into their program. 
IMO, I think the longer the choosing process takes, the more the program is going to "suffer" only because that lessens the time available to learn the new system, get the players oriented, and so on.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on January 07, 2007, 05:53:30 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on January 07, 2007, 04:20:15 PM
As of 1/7/07 Concordia has not named a new Coach.  Coach Pries told me that they are accepting resumes and are being rather "selective" in their process.  They are looking for a few particulars that will fit into their program. 
IMO, I think the longer the choosing process takes, the more the program is going to "suffer" only because that lessens the time available to learn the new system, get the players oriented, and so on.

That is a vail concern, more so for returning players.  Of course, at the DIII level, this is not as crucial in that new recruits don't show up until camp time.  Even if some of those committed to the school early, one doesn't really know the exact # until "they show up" at opening camp day and, certainly everyone is at the same starting point as far as knowing the play book, unless the coaches give that out before during the summer.

On the other hand, one consideration for the delay in selecting the new coach is that perhaps Pries and the administration is taking their time to choose someone who will be committed to staying on for awhile rather moving on after one year like the previous assistant coach and/or not using the position as a "stepping stone" to the next level.  That is a way to obviously help gain stability of the program and after the somewhat "rocky road" in changes in their coaching staff in recent years, perhaps they are hoping to get some long range stability and personel who just might want to stay at Concordia for a career? ??? or at least several years.  Hopefully, they get the right person for the position and I wish them all the best.  It is not only good to see them attempting to improve their own program, but also good for the league as well.Just some thoughts for consideration, although, obviously speculation on my part.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on January 12, 2007, 03:20:10 PM
If Pries turns the team around it is entirely possible to stay there for a career.....Its all up to the Administration of that school
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ibfcisdead on January 15, 2007, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on January 02, 2007, 12:40:10 PM
I live in Minnesota, so all I hear now is if the Gophers should have fired Mason.  I totally think the U of M did the right thing in firing Mason, even if he did just sign his new contract last year.  Last year was big news trying to get him signed and everyone was going crazy about the possibility of him not coming back.  Now, nearly everyone in Minnesota is glad that he is gone. 

Yeah, Mason was a good coach and totally turned around the program, but he never could get the Gophers to be one of the best Big Ten teams.  Yeah they had some good teams, but we were always the best of the worst teams in the Big Ten.  Also Mason could never win the big games.  He won a few big games, but never got a big win to put the Gophers up at the top with the rest of them.  Also on his resume is the many big time collapses.  The Gophers have had big leads in many games, only to collapse and lose the game.  They were killing Michigan a few years back at the Dome, they were up by 28 in the 3rd quater, only to let them comeback and win the game.  Needless to say the huuuuuge comeback by Texas Tech the other day in the bowl game. 

Mason would have been fine and still the Gophers coach had they won that game, but that huuuuuge collapse (biggest come from behind win in any D-1 bowl game in history) was the final straw for Mason.  Being a Minnesotan and huge Gophers fan, I think it was the right move to send Mason packing.  I loved him as a coach, but it was always frusterating to see the Gophs lose nearly every big game and lose those games that were nearly won.  I also was sick of watching the Gophers make crappy bowl game after crappy bowl game, winning about half of them, but blowing every other one.  Its time for a new era in Gopher football, and the Gophers are going to sign a coach that will make them Big Ten contenders. 


Sorry for the long disposition on Gopher football, but Im a huge fan and a Minnesotan  ;D

M-I-N-N-E-S-O-T-A...MINNESOTA...MINNESOTA...YEEEAAAHHH GOPHERS!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on January 16, 2007, 01:51:04 AM
Any early perdictions for next year.....?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on January 17, 2007, 09:59:44 AM
 Maddog:  My computers been down for several months.......lucky you. ;D

  Are you still napping in the broom closet?  I understand your the guy who puts the "paper" mats on the floor board of all new Fords, any truth in that??   
   Glad your boy is doing well! 
   Early prediction, Eureka hammers The baby cheese heads (Lakeland)
    by 36.   :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 23, 2007, 12:53:51 AM
soooooo........




How about them Twins??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 23, 2007, 12:54:40 AM
...or Bears maybe? Does that work better?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on January 23, 2007, 01:32:56 AM
Gomer How the hell are you? Lakeland will go undefeated next season. Little "z"  will be  coming to Lakeland to coach after he is threw with the Indoor Professional Football League. He is QB-ing for the Stuebenville Stampede.

Looking for former players still interested in trying out for the Indoor Pro League call me 586-201-1341 I will try to get a workout for you. Bobby Langston call me....Falcondb you call also.....Reeno10 you too.

Season starts March 24th, training camp is in mid Feb.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on January 30, 2007, 10:40:10 AM
Superbowl Perdictions.......Lets Hear 'Em.....The Big Dance is almost here
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on February 02, 2007, 01:48:26 PM
Bears
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on February 02, 2007, 05:39:02 PM
"Any predictions for next year.."

I look into my crystal ball and see the end of the line for the IBFC Conference approaching fast.  You will be competing in a new conference shortly..."  :P
I think Lakeland and CUW will compete for the crown this Fall.  Of these 2 I think CUW defends their title.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 02, 2007, 06:01:03 PM
COLTS
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on February 07, 2007, 12:58:50 AM
79, I believe AU re-emerges as a powerhouse this upcoming season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on February 07, 2007, 01:50:29 PM
Hopefully,  I would love to see any IL team knock off a WI team.  hehe
What are some of your thoughts/predictions/feelings with the new NAC forming after this year? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on February 08, 2007, 10:19:12 AM
It's hard to say because I haven't seen about half of the teams play so it would be hard to gauge the new conference....I can't wait though
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on February 12, 2007, 09:38:34 AM
1. CUW
2. AU
3. lakeland
4. MAC
5.greenville
6.BEN
7.CURF
8.eureka why do u have a football team

CUW wins the conference, i hope u guys are enjoying those rings that you are getting.  WHat does everyone else think the conference will turn out to be
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on February 13, 2007, 02:41:41 PM
"Any predictions for next year.."

CUW, Lakeland, and Aurora have the best chances IMO...huge game to start the season for CUW against NCC. They get the benefit of playing a game before the cards, but I think Thorne and his staff will have them ready to go this time around.

CUW will want to avenge the play-off loss, while NCC wants to get to a 10 win season for the first time in its history (they have to win this one to get there) I think they've allready gotten the bad taste from the opening loss out of thier mouth. ;)

Schultzy's (NCC #76 01-05) little bro plays for CUW #74, and he is a pretty good DE, his bro was a darn good OT for the Cards.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on February 15, 2007, 10:24:43 AM
very early predictions for next year....
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8. Eureka

hahaha....thats the way I see it. Don't go counting out CUC and Benedictine for the top contenders in this conference...its the last year for the IBFC and a lot of "wierd" things may happen, except for Eureka actually getting a win.hahahaha, damn this is fun. :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on February 15, 2007, 12:00:48 PM
Ouch...is Eureka really that bad?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on February 15, 2007, 05:57:55 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on February 15, 2007, 12:00:48 PM
Ouch...is Eureka really that bad?

You guys have obviously followed them more closely than me and others.  A couple of years ago, I thought they were making some progress, however, after this last season, it would appear they "went backward" somewhat.  Any insights as to why and also, do you think their coaching staff will remain stable for awhile?  If the latter occurs, hopefully, that would help the program make some progress.  Interested in your opinions.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on February 16, 2007, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on February 15, 2007, 10:24:43 AM
hahaha....thats the way I see it. Don't go counting out CUC and Benedictine for the top contenders in this conference...its the last year for the IBFC and a lot of "wierd" things may happen, except for Eureka actually getting a win.hahahaha, damn this is fun. :P

Benedictine has a better chance at improving in the new conference in two years.  I doubt they have personel to beat CUW or Lakeland.  They may win a couple more games, but they are not a serious contender for the final year of the IBC, same for CUC.
Those two teams have a much harder road ahead of them
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on February 16, 2007, 01:07:25 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on February 13, 2007, 02:41:41 PM
"Any predictions for next year.."

CUW, Lakeland, and Aurora have the best chances IMO...huge game to start the season for CUW against NCC. They get the benefit of playing a game before the cards, but I think Thorne and his staff will have them ready to go this time around.

CUW will want to avenge the play-off loss, while NCC wants to get to a 10 win season for the first time in its history (they have to win this one to get there) I think they've allready gotten the bad taste from the opening loss out of thier mouth. ;)

Schultzy's (NCC #76 01-05) little bro plays for CUW #74, and he is a pretty good DE, his bro was a darn good OT for the Cards.

Is Kam still @ NCC? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on February 16, 2007, 02:28:27 PM
He is graduating this year, he will be missed by the Cardinal faithful
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 16, 2007, 06:47:52 PM
Hey!  Im Gordon Bombay.....not you!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on February 17, 2007, 08:15:48 PM
sorry Im gordon over on the CCIW boards...;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on February 19, 2007, 11:52:14 AM
Marcus,
I wouldnt count them out yet, but i also wouldnt count them in yet either
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on February 19, 2007, 06:36:28 PM
CUW-was a very good team in the IBFC (2006) they will finish maybe 3rd in 2007.

LC- had and still have some very good talent on the squad top two in conference.

AU- good team but just cant get over the hill, wont come through in the cluch will battle for 3rd against CUW.

GC- the offence will be better than ever (will produce), lot of new talent (transfers), amazing QB he is a beast, the defence is going to hold it down like always...this team does not has the best players overall in the conferencd but...THEY PLAY AS A TEAM. Compete for 1st agaist LC.

Mac-has a lot of very good players if get a good coaching staff, they might turn some heads and get a couple of upsets

BU-May improve but still middle of the pack

EU-they will do what they can with what they have

CUC-is trying to move in the right direction but have to get more talent in order to produce.

These are my thoughts and prodictions not basic facts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on February 20, 2007, 10:00:21 AM
ehh, I feel bad for my previous post...it was supposed to be in good fun but now that I read it again, its bad. I am sorry to Eureka.

JR, those are some pretty good predictions. A lot of talent is leaving and there may be a lot of talent coming in for other teams as well. I am not going to say much because I don't want to give any information away. I believe CUC had A LOT of talent but age plays a role and those outstanding freshmen from last year will stand out this year.

Its going to be an interesting last year for the IBFC and hopefully a good year. The "predictions" I made early, which weren't predictions could be erased...it is too early to tell who will do what.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on February 21, 2007, 04:32:03 PM
Since it is a long off season there is no reason to talk who'll win the conference right now. What could be a good topic is to compare teams position by position.

I'll start with the QUARTERBACKS

1. Dom Kegel- GC- great dual threat. Doesn't get  sacked, makes plays with his legs mostly but is decently accurate. Great for the gc option offense. Too many turnovers but is the best weapon in the conference. There maybe other individual players who are better (#1 WR lakeland) but Kegel has the ball every snap and you can't take him out of the game because of that. Lakeland WR will only touch it 5-7x a game on a good day.

2. Lindsey- EU- accurate passer and can run. was a freshman last year and maybe the best young qb. Nobody may ever take notice unless their team gets better as a whole. He doesnt' make mistakes but not many wr weapons.

3. Wilks- LC- good throwing qb  with some good wrs. threw a bunch of picks last year. if he limits the mistakes watch out. They have a chance to be a special offense with the WR and RB weapons they have.

4. Weeks- CUC- decent throwing qb. a bunch of INTs in 06. can be a dual threat when he decides to run. No offensive weapons around him so he won't shine too much unless they got reinforcements. Good offensive system. He is there whole offense.

4. McGary- AU- Another talented yound qb. was a fr last season. Good arm, good accuracy, will be tough to beat as a junior/senior. Needs a better run game and a threat at wr before he will shine. Also split some time with another qb who is decent. too many INTs.

6. #20 CUW- Another qb who can run and throw. I'm not sure how talented he is as a thrower because of the weapons he threw to last year. I didn't see their playoff game but i suspect NC stopped the run and he couldn't throw into coverage. But he is really good in cuw's system in conference play. but with all the skill men lost #84,#1,#4 i think his 06 year maybe better than 07 season.

7. Budm-Bene- only hands the ball off. can run a lil bit. Plays well for his sysytem, hand it off, boot and throw to wide open guy. they don't have a dominant run game so when he has to pass he looks below average. can make plays with his legs though.

Overall- the conference is very weak at the QB position. No body is really accurate. Only 1 qb complete at least 50% of his passes. That is sad. They all make a ton of mistakes. There are some decent prospects once the freshman grow up.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on February 22, 2007, 11:58:25 AM
making predictions already and it's not even March yet, dang.  JR you will be missed this season. But GC will have a great season despite losing some key players.  That's EMAP boys! This is the last season for the IBC and I think it's going to be a good year for alot of teams.  Aurora, LC, and GC I'm predicting will be going for Conference Championship.  CUW is good but just not as good as last year.  CUC will be the most improved, if they get a good Head Coach and build up from last year.  BU will also have a good season. MAC and EU will sadly be at the bottom end of the standings.  However this could be all wrong so who knows. 
Fatal I'm going to try and get along with you this year. Let's just try to back up opinions with facts, little buddy and I won't predict GC beats Ohio State in a close game.  Regardless of what people think about GC they still took CUW to OT and was in a 3-way tie for 2nd place in the conference.

Pre-Season Spring Predictions

1. GC
2. LC
3. AU & CUW
4. CUC
5. BU
6. EU
7. MAC


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on February 22, 2007, 02:18:55 PM
Il'll try...I always back-up my perdictions and statements with facts and precidents and don't call me little buddy...and much like AUFB05 AU takes the final season of the IBFC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on February 22, 2007, 05:15:37 PM
Wow, it's been awhile, but really before we know it......football season will be here again.  Taking nothing away from baseball though, I love baseball season.

Anyway, are there going to be any possible D-III players signing FA contracts or possibly a late 7th round pick?   I know there are a couple each year, just wondering about this year.

Maddog probably thinks Langston should be a 1st rounder.

But really, does anyone know?

And Marcus, you should buy MLB 2k7 when it comes out, we can battle it out on X-Box live.........also funny comments about Eureka.  And I really hope CUC can win some games this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cougarqb4 on February 24, 2007, 09:46:13 PM
baseman i will tell u this that CUC will win some game for u and are going to be better.. I am excited about this season coming up for the IBC it should be an interesting, competitive, and all the teams are getting better. i wish all of the teams good luck with there off season workouts and hope to have great games with all of you
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on February 27, 2007, 11:26:54 AM
Baseman:

The TE from Whitworth (Allen) is the only D-III player that was invited to the combine. He is big 6'7'' 250-260 range. He has great hands and I think he runs in the 4.6  range of the 40. His stock is up and he could definetly go in the draft. Check out the article on the front page

News on Allen: he ran a 4.71 40 time, tied for best verticle jump at his position 36' I believe and had the best broad jump at his position 10'3''
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JK on March 02, 2007, 08:23:34 AM
Six Killed in Bluffton baseball bus crash... this is just awful.   Our thoughts and prayers to all in the Bluffton Family:

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6522208
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on March 13, 2007, 09:50:37 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on February 22, 2007, 05:15:37 PM
Wow, it's been awhile, but really before we know it......football season will be here again.  Taking nothing away from baseball though, I love baseball season.

Anyway, are there going to be any possible D-III players signing FA contracts or possibly a late 7th round pick?   I know there are a couple each year, just wondering about this year.

Maddog probably thinks Langston should be a 1st rounder.

But really, does anyone know?

And Marcus, you should buy MLB 2k7 when it comes out, we can battle it out on X-Box live.........also funny comments about Eureka.  And I really hope CUC can win some games this year.
I have had the game since it came out baseman...I just think you are running scared because the smell of being defeated is already under your nose. I am going to start a league btw....you in?
The Bluffton crash was horrible news to hear and my prayers are out to the families and the school...I believe they pronounced another dead a couple of days ago which is horrible.
I really wish there were a lot more D3 athletes that were invited to the combine. I believe that offensive linemen for one should be highly considered for the NFL if they have the size, strength, and footwork. I thought during the combine, the analysts kind of mocked D3 football while interviewing Whitworth. They had said when and if he gets drafted he is going to be in for a big surprise in the NFL because the D-end lining up across from him wont be a 195 pound kid...a very stereotypical comment made by them and I hope they regret it. The worst part about being stereotypical at the time was Whitworth himself is a pretty big boy.
And finally to Tru, CUC still has Coach Pries from last year (a very good head coach) the only coach they were missing was a defensive coordinator which they have hired already...full coaching staff ready to go.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on March 13, 2007, 10:03:45 AM
I am also deeply saddend by what happened to the Bluffton team, its hoorible when a team loses a player let alone 4 or 5 players, plus the driver and his wife.


Rich Eisen is a piece of trash, no wonder he doesnt work for ESPN anymore.....I watched the combine and the commentators kinda ruined it.....Plus allen had one of the best combines for a tight end
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on March 13, 2007, 11:17:53 AM
Its true he had the second best 40 time 4.71 second only to Greg Olsen at 4.51 (Greg Olsen is a nightmare for a defense to try and cover, he would have gathered more honors but they had a couple so so seasons in Miami) he had the best broad jump 10'3'', the only thing he could have really improved on was his bench reps (15 I think maybe 17)

That announcer is a dumb-azz, but unfortunetly thats kind of the stereotye of D-III there are more undersized kids playing football in D-III than in D-I its a fact, I'm not saying the DE's are all 195 thats lie and a half on the part of that announcer, but as far as size strength and speed, I doubt Allen has faced anyone like the Florida DE's that tore apart the Ohio State OL that averages 6'8'' 320 (thats not an exaggeration that was the actual average at the start of the season) and was rated one of the best in the land.

I think Allen can do it, I want to see him succeed, but its going to take even more work and strength training, He is as tall or taller than many TE's and he has some bulk and good speed and athleticism, but he is still a project because D-I is way faster and more physical than D-III and NFL is way faster and more physical than D-I. More power to him, but as an NFL coach who would you take?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D306 on March 13, 2007, 11:53:47 AM
Alum62
Re: Allen great speed at 4.71 for a big man.
My issue is 15-17 reps, is all and he is that big.
Get in the weightroom, if has the talent to get a look in the NFL how could he show up, and bench so little.

I know kids showing up at 18 years old, to first day of College Football that can put up more reps than that.

Kinda like Smith from Ohio State showing up Fat at the combines.
Have the keys to finanacial security set in front of you and show up out of shape?

The comment about disparaging the DIII players also burns me, there is some talented players in DIII. Not as many as the Freaks of Nature that the BCS teams get but some quality athletes.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on March 13, 2007, 12:38:07 PM
Yes 15-17 isn't great, however before we say he didn't prepare well, look at some of the other lifting that the TE's did I think he is on par with the others. His broad and veritcle jumps were vey high. But I think most scouts have him rated as a project at his position. That he doesn't play with the same athleticism that he worked out at. (plays too high, not as quick as his 40 time suggests)

Time will tell. Many websites had a section about him having a very good workout and raising his stock and possibly getting drafted...we'll see
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on March 15, 2007, 09:37:52 AM
Yes, there are many great D-3 players out there and I believe a lot of them have the talent. Life is always about adjusting...D-1 is faster than D-3 and NFL is faster than D-1...well D-3 is faster than high school and players had to adjust to that as well. The 15-17 reps on bench is pretty bad...especially when Brady Quinn jumped on the bench and repped 26 I think? Anyways, I think Allen will adjust as well as any other D-3 player would in the NFL and I wish him the best.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on March 16, 2007, 12:28:21 AM
The "scouts" are saying it looks like Allen is a project at TE, and because of his low bench numbers it might hurt him...But with alot of guys that are that tall and rangy it can be very hard to train your arms to be able to like 225 20-25 times.  I knew a D-III guy who lifted 31 times at 225, but he never would make it in the pros.  The is sometimes a difference between wieght room strength and on the field strength.  I've played against alot of guys that were stronger in the weightroom, but with sound technique and footwork I could beat 'em in the trenches.

I hope Allen adjusts better than most D-III guys  ;) most D-III guys that even get a look are sent packing...only the truly exceptional have stuck on a roster. Talent is one thing but in the NFL to go along with that talent they have to have the physical skill.

I think he may have been more concerned with speed rather than strength, maybe thats what he was told...who knows (I'm not saying one way or the other), but his impressive hands and 40 time as well as the verticle and broad jump seem to have people buzzing about him being a 5th or 6th rounder...good luck to him I hope he gets drafted and is able to make the team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D306 on March 16, 2007, 08:20:35 AM
Alum62

I agree speed, good hands and route running are critical for a TE.
I just thought 15-17 was low.


I hope he sticks, and gets a shot.
I am sure that if the other skills are there, a team can put weight and muscle on him in a 3 month span.
It will not even have to be ROIDS before somebody goes there with a comment.

Spring Ball starting up!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on March 17, 2007, 11:51:50 AM
D306:

Absolutly I agree with you...

You never know the story...does anyone remember Bryant McKinnie (U of Miami OT) who plays with the Vikings...he didn't play that much football before college because he was embarassed about his lifting (he wasn't a strong lifting guy), his problem was his massive wingspan (which given Allen's hieght he might have) which is sometimes a problem for guys try to increase thier bench reps and strength.  UM's strainer got him a special bar that helped accomodate him. I'm sure an NFL strength coach could do the same with Allen..IF that be the problem...needless to say an NFL strength coach will get those numbers up.

I think Allen is going to make it onto a team for training camp either through the draft or FA.  It will be up to him to make the roster though.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D306 on March 18, 2007, 09:36:42 PM
Alum

I have to tell, you the NFL players that I know or have meet, are all bout speed and atleticism.
Yes the lineman and LB's are very strong, but the speed and agility is what makes them a pro.
The DB's and WR's typically have not been that strong that it did not impress me, but their speed and body control was far and away something that was unique. These guys had great hops and body control.

Take this for what it's worth from my experiences on the basketball court, at the local gym.

Since my days of having any hops, or speed have past, I play position and spacing to try to be effective. Strength is not gone, but as they say the legs are the first to go.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on March 19, 2007, 09:47:39 AM
Quote from: D306 on March 18, 2007, 09:36:42 PM
Alum

I have to tell, you the NFL players that I know or have meet, are all bout speed and atleticism.
Yes the lineman and LB's are very strong, but the speed and agility is what makes them a pro.
The DB's and WR's typically have not been that strong that it did not impress me, but their speed and body control was far and away something that was unique. These guys had great hops and body control.

Take this for what it's worth from my experiences on the basketball court, at the local gym.

Since my days of having any hops, or speed have past, I play position and spacing to try to be effective. Strength is not gone, but as they say the legs are the first to go.



I think we're agreeing here...

My earlier posts about Allen were about his tremendous athletic upside and (for the scouts) surprising speed by posting the second best 40 time among TE's.  I think his great numbers in everything besides lifting are what get him on a team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on March 20, 2007, 05:40:06 PM
Anyone from Illinois Benedictine on this board got anything to say?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 21, 2007, 02:07:58 AM
Besides that it hasn't been called Illinois Benedictine for nearly a decade? :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on March 21, 2007, 11:14:40 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 21, 2007, 02:07:58 AM
Besides that it hasn't been called Illinois Benedictine for nearly a decade? :)

ZING!

yeah I guess its been a bit...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on March 21, 2007, 12:35:25 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on March 19, 2007, 09:47:39 AM
Quote from: D306 on March 18, 2007, 09:36:42 PM
Alum

I have to tell, you the NFL players that I know or have meet, are all bout speed and atleticism.
Yes the lineman and LB's are very strong, but the speed and agility is what makes them a pro.
The DB's and WR's typically have not been that strong that it did not impress me, but their speed and body control was far and away something that was unique. These guys had great hops and body control.

Take this for what it's worth from my experiences on the basketball court, at the local gym.

Since my days of having any hops, or speed have past, I play position and spacing to try to be effective. Strength is not gone, but as they say the legs are the first to go.



I think we're agreeing here...

My earlier posts about Allen were about his tremendous athletic upside and (for the scouts) surprising speed by posting the second best 40 time among TE's.  I think his great numbers in everything besides lifting are what get him on a team.

By the way accroding to NFL.com Allen lifted 19 times on the bench...my mistake on the ealier numbers and I can't remember where I saw them...the NFL website doesn't have a profile for Allen yeat, but after sifting through the results I found his numbers
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 22, 2007, 10:42:05 AM
Congradulations to Lakeland College and Coach "Z" for Maiuri and Schringer were voted Captians for the Steubenville Stampede Profootball Team. if interested in following these 2 IBFC Conference Leaders go to www.stampedeindoorfootball.com Good luck to all IBFC this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 23, 2007, 09:39:00 AM
Hey, that's pretty sweet.

That St. John arena doesn't look big enough for a 50 yard field for football though.

speaking of indoor football, I know the AFL has two divisions, D-I and D-II, is that it or are there more? 

would be cool if Ryan could make it to the AFL though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on March 23, 2007, 03:07:24 PM
Indeed congratulations...is there any real money in the IFL's? I mean do they work another job and play football ( I assume they do ), but I've always wondered what the pay structure was like for these guys.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on March 30, 2007, 08:46:44 PM
SPRING PRACTICE STARTS MONDAY MORNING @ 5:50AM SHARP!!



GO COUGS!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 02, 2007, 04:03:28 PM
  Maddog:

    You still working off a "Green-Card?"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 04, 2007, 12:25:11 PM
MAC going to D1 whats up with that???? new coach pushing for D1 program.. i dont see this happening at MAC source #9 from mac
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on April 05, 2007, 12:09:57 AM
Uhmmmmmmm, run that by me again???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on April 05, 2007, 11:24:14 PM
Reeno,

Stop smoking weed....please!

If you typed that post while high i'd have more respect than if you actually are wondering if it is true the mac is considering going d1.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on April 05, 2007, 11:59:38 PM
Hey, if you go to NFL.com and click on who will be the next Colston, Allen from Witworth is listed there as a sleeper.

Just thought it was interesting
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 06, 2007, 02:31:28 PM
  MacMurray losing more Head Coaches due To budget cuts as seen on the
   D-3 home page.
   They need to go one more step and fire last years SID (they now have a new/another one) who single handley distroyed the Mac Football site.
   On her watch 25 years of football history was DELETED!!  And there is no
   back up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This is a fact.
 
 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on April 06, 2007, 08:05:46 PM
Well....Well....Well, i haven't been on here for a while but i have seen the topic!!! Here are the cold hard facts about MAC.....

1)Coaches are getting fired and mac is loosing coaches for all sports..

2) THE PATHETIC ATHLETIC DIRECTOR for MAC resigned to go to Arizona to be a recruiter(Note: he fired everyone..Whole coaching staff, Laundry people, and TRAINER, in the middle of the season and now is leaving months later)

3) There is no SID!!!

4) Facilites are TERRIBLE!!

5)WE HAD NO BANQUET FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM AT ALL THIS YEAR!!

6) THERE WAS NO SENIOR PLAQUES OR EVEN RECOGNITION FOR 4 YEAR LETTER WINNING SENIORS..(FIRST YEAR THIS HAS HAPPEN SINCE I BEEN HERE)

Gentlemen.....These are the facts whether you like it or not...MAC is going down hill they have only 1 coach as of now in the off season!! Although i heard he was a terrific guy and coach but it is a shame how the AD just RESIGNED AND TORE DOWN THE PROGRAM AND THEN JUST LEFT!!! I love the guys who play for the team....GREAT BUNCH OF GUYS but this team is going to stuggle bc of off the field distractions as well as other things...

Even though i played for MAC, i will never endorse this school for recruits to go to bc of the mishaps that happen to me as well as all the seniors this past year and it is a dam shame how this program went down hill so fast bc when i came here it was a honor to play for the team and be apart of the tradition!!! This is coming from a player who came from one of the biggest high schools in florida to MAC and was a team player....... I dont know but my predictions for this year as of now is...

1)LAKELAND...Yes, you heard... COACH Z is GREAT AS well as the returners...COME ON PAIN TRAIN...TIME IS NOW!
2)CUW
3)Greenville-QB IS GREAT
4)BU- YOUNG TALENT WILL BE READY FROM PAST YEARS.
5)AU
6)Riverforest
7)EUREKA
8)MAC- Sorry guys but look out for #6 Scotty Gregory (BEAST, GARRAUNTEE 1st team linebacker)

Let me know what you all think about the situation at MAC not the picks bc it has been tearing me up now that i am graduating and that i feel like i got STIFFED my senior year!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2007, 08:52:24 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on April 06, 2007, 02:31:28 PM
  MacMurray losing more Head Coaches due To budget cuts as seen on the
   D-3 home page.
   They need to go one more step and fire last years SID (they now have a new/another one) who single handley distroyed the Mac Football site.
   On her watch 25 years of football history was DELETED!!  And there is no
   back up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This is a fact.

Was that 25 years of history posted on the Web, by chance? It might be retrievable at www.archive.org.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 07, 2007, 07:10:42 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2007, 08:52:24 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on April 06, 2007, 02:31:28 PM
  MacMurray losing more Head Coaches due To budget cuts as seen on the
   D-3 home page.
   They need to go one more step and fire last years SID (they now have a new/another one) who single handley distroyed the Mac Football site.
   On her watch 25 years of football history was DELETED!!  And there is no
   back up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This is a fact.

Was that 25 years of history posted on the Web, by chance? It might be retrievable at www.archive.org.

  Pat:
     Thanks for the "heads-up" but i don`t think so.
    Missing is the section called," Football Record Book."
    When i questioned the (then) SID, Coach Whitaker, as to why the information was DELETED she said," When the new website was constructed, it was done in a manner to provide uniformity among all sports. Thus, some information may have been DROPPED from the site."
  DELETED ? Oops, i mean dropped for the sake of "uniformity?" If that don`t beat all!
Somebody in the Admin at Mac needs to get that train wreck back on course.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 07, 2007, 07:23:40 AM
  Larry:
     #3: There is no SID !!
     Not to argue the point but as of this morning the Mac Sports Information site shows...........Dave Urbanek as the current SID.
   Or is this business as usual, meaning nothing is as it seems when it comes to The Mac sport sites? Dis-information is the order of the day.
  Did #10 send you a pic?   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on April 07, 2007, 12:40:58 PM
Gomer.....Well thats good news about the SID..I guess, now that me and #10 are gone but it is 10 times worse than it was when you came up here.....Good rebuttle to PATS little "call out!" HAHA i loved it and your absolutely right!!! AND YES i seen the 6 all the way up to 8 pound BASS and i hope to be out there with all pretty dam soon!!!

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2007, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on April 07, 2007, 12:40:58 PM
Good rebuttle to PATS little "call out!" HAHA i loved it and your absolutely right!!!

Not sure why I am targeted here -- was simply trying to help by pointing out a potential source for the missing info.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 08, 2007, 08:31:22 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2007, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on April 07, 2007, 12:40:58 PM
Good rebuttle to PATS little "call out!" HAHA i loved it and your absolutely right!!!

Not sure why I am targeted here -- was simply trying to help by pointing out a potential source for the missing info.


Pat: You are not Targeted!   My response was ment as a "thank you."
   for directing me to a possible source for finding the missing (DELETED)information from the MacMurray football site.
   As indcated, i tried but the information was not archived.
  MacMurray has done a miserable job on their Football site over the years
  and with the constant upheaval in staff it looks to continue!
   Many e-mails have been sent to the Admin ( President, Ath Director, and of course the ever present check collecting, SID.) to no avail! This over the course of several years.
   As the football team represents 17% (close) of the total student
    enrollment  one would think MacMurray would at the very least keep things up-to-date through out the entire scope of their Football web-site....
   Pass and present.  What a dis-service to the HISTORY of Mac Football
   and to the athletes  who played for those Football teams over 25 years.
   Here are a couple of comments from previous SID`s at Mac.
  (1) This one was not re-hired. He said,"........there are so many errors,mistakes on the site he is having "interns" research for and correct
  problem areas. He`s gone!
  (2) To explain the deleted information she used the terms,"........to provide uniformity.........." and "..........dropped from the prior site."
   She, by the way, had 2 bites at the apple. Twice appointed SID. Now she`s back to coaching. Damage under her watch, jury is still out. Hope those "interns" come up with an answer.
   So as i stated above................ Thank you for your interest and help.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on April 08, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!! :) WELL SAID GOMER!!!! THAT IS ONE OF MANY THINGS THAT ARE MESSED UP AT A TERRIBLE COLLEGE!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 09, 2007, 09:23:32 AM
i agree with #9 i will never endorse anything for MAC, losing the records page and nobody knowing where it went is ****ed up to me.. people work hard to break records and when they finally do MAC doesnt recongize them in any form at all. MAC is just worried about ripping people off for there money and not caring for thre ALUMNI or current students.. TO THE CURRENT STUDENTS AND MOSTLY FOOTBALL PLAYERS GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN AND GO PLAY FOR A BETTER SCHOOL THAN MAC #9 IS RIGHT THAT PLACE IS GOING DOWN HILL **** MAC... TO the old AD thats pretty ****ed up that you come in and fire all the coaches the trainer and the laudry staff now who is going to wash the clothes haha anywayz you fired a good coach in BRANDON MCCray the trainer did suck i see that but you came in and tore up a hell of a football program, no u left because u saw how bad of a job you did i am disgusted on how MAC handled all of this but wait thats MAC for u... MAC needs to hire the right presdent to get that place back on track...#9 when u get back i will teach u how to fish u see all the big ones i have been catching haha.. but somebody please help MAC.... the new coach at mac should of never taken that job there is too much baggage to come with that postion.. GOOD LUCK MAC next year i predict a 0-10 season wow <MAC has gone down hill thats embarrsing FIX MY DAMN RECORDS MAC WHAT THE ****  >:(   ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on April 10, 2007, 10:13:57 AM
Amen Reeno, Mac has gone in the crapper.  Funny though, I seem to still get the, "be a good alumnus and give us money" letters every month or so.  My guess is that in another couple of years Mac will be known as the West Central Illinois Beauty College....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 10, 2007, 11:31:03 AM
i still get those letters too, and i gave them my money when i went there and i am being a good alumni by telling everyone to get out while they can...If they treated the seniors this year with respect and didnt do what they did to coach McCray i would maybe consider giving them money but hell no that place isnt worth it.. im glad that i played football there and met the people i met i will remeber that becaue i have 2 fat rings on my hand but the school itself is a **** hole..............
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 10, 2007, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: mac_5_seven on April 10, 2007, 10:13:57 AM
Amen Reeno, Mac has gone in the crapper.  Funny though, I seem to still get the, "be a good alumnus and give us money" letters every month or so.  My guess is that in another couple of years Mac will be known as the West Central Illinois Beauty College....

   Here`s a suggestion.
     The next time you get a "request " for money tell them you will when
    they get Their football site cleaned up................all information posted
     and current.
    Maybe a write in from all the football players (25 years worth)  asking the simple question, why can`t you get this straightened out? 
   Numbers can get the Admin at Mac Murray asking that same question to
    those responsible. 
    When anyone is entrusted as the steward of History of a program they should show respect for those football players past and present.
   Not come out of the box like a bull in a China shop with plans that never
  materialize, offer lame excuses when questions are asked, point fingers
  and under whose watch 25 years of Football history was deleted, with no back-up.
   To be fair about the Deleted history she did say it was.....to provide uniformity. HUH !  Forget that it`s a part of past and present players accomplishments going back in some cases 25 years.  They need the space??
  Nobody was held accountable. Nothing has been done to correct the issue an the Mac Sports site looks the same.
   Until The Admin at MacMurray steps in an directs action be taken Now.   
   it will be business as usual.
    Muck up the site and get a pay-check.
   Players records are for all to see and appreciate for as long as records are kept  so why then can one person  push a button and they are lost forever in cyberspace and nobody cares!    Shamefull ???
   
   
   
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 10, 2007, 04:13:46 PM
Quick question for you Mac guys.  Doesn't anyone have a "hard copy" of the MAC football records that they perhaps printed off from the website?  Or, is there not a copy of a football game program or pre-season publication that may have that info in it; or even the school library?  I can't imagine that one of your former MAC players somewhere, from someyear, doesn't have this to help retrieve the info.  I hope so, otherwise it will be a big job to re-accumulate and collect that date - not impossible, however, but will be a tedious task.  Good luck and I hope that info is able to be re-aquired somehow, someway.  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 10, 2007, 04:55:03 PM
Mac guys:
If you log on to Mac's football page of their athletic site, the program's history/stats are still listed with the exception of the year-by-year results.  I would suggest printing off a hard copy of what is currently posted; then if the school or some former player does not have the year-by-year scores somewhere, then someone can reconstruct the season results for each year I would think by consulting the league's official records (check with the league publicist) and/or programs/season pre-views from other league teams.  Certainly Pat's D3fb.com site has results back 6-7 years so that gives someone about 18 years (out of the 24-25) to do, which is at least a little easier than trying to reconstruct all 25 seasons.  Just some suggestions - again best of luck.  I am confident you'll get the info eventually.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2007, 02:25:10 AM
This isn't what they're talking about, though, formerd3db. This is what they're talking about:

Quote from: Reeno10 on April 09, 2007, 09:23:32 AM
people work hard to break records and when they finally do MAC doesnt recongize them in any form at all.

The individual records page does indeed appear to be deleted. I spent a little time looking for it in Archive.org and came up empty, though I did not search every possible archived date.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 11, 2007, 08:26:39 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2007, 02:25:10 AM
This isn't what they're talking about, though, formerd3db. This is what they're talking about:

Quote from: Reeno10 on April 09, 2007, 09:23:32 AM
people work hard to break records and when they finally do MAC doesnt recongize them in any form at all.

The individual records page does indeed appear to be deleted. I spent a little time looking for it in Archive.org and came up empty, though I did not search every possible archived date.

  Pat:
     You are correct about the " Football RECORD Book" section of the Mac Football site  being deleted
     .   Their site (football) only lists "Yearly" Records at this time. Plus other stuff unrelated to individual performances. 
     The previous SID, e-mailed me on 9/22/06 ref :missing History Book data.  His comment was, "At some point in time the page was  deleted from our website as well as our server."  They have/had no back-up! 
  It was pointed out to The school President, in hopes he would tell sombody to get on the ball and get this corrected .......now! Nope. He`s
   going to retire. The Athletic Dir was informed in hopes he would see the problem and take action. Nope. He`s gone. The (2 time) SID/Softball Coach was asked repeatly to assist in correcting the problem. Nope. The comment made was, " All information is placed on and taken off by the college webmistress, not myself." She did say, however, " Thus, some information
  may have been dropped from the prior site."
   25 years of MacMurray Football History "dropped" ? As the steward of
   something important  to a lot of guys over many years and that`s it?
    Dropped! 
   The previous SID (not re-hired) who knew of the deletion and the many problems on the FB site said," my interns will soon begin the process revising our record books..........." Interns? MacMurray has very cavalier  in their handling of  records that many a player is duly proud of. 
   To this date nothing has been done by MacMurray to correct this major
   blunder!
   
  Pat: Thanks for taking an interest.

 

   
 
     
   
   

         
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 11, 2007, 08:50:10 AM
Formerd3db:
     I`ve been working on the Record book issue and other problems
     for almost 3 years and to date..................nothing. Some of their comments are , I`ll pass it on, or i`ll look into it, or They appoint a new SID
    and the process starts all over again. Bottom line is, nobody at Mac
     seems to have the skills or authority to get-er-done! Just look at the
    time line and no results.
     Plus i`ve kept all my e-mails, coming and going. Nothing like "back-up."
    MacMurray`s had (i) one really good, competent, up to the minute SID
    by the name of Bostwick. 
    Under his watch everything was up to date.......period. Sadly he left to do high school and radio stuff.
    Some D-3 schools have great Football web sites. Sadly, MacMurray is not one of them! 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 11, 2007, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on April 11, 2007, 08:50:10 AM
Formerd3db:
     I`ve been working on the Record book issue and other problems
     for almost 3 years and to date..................nothing. Some of their comments are , I`ll pass it on, or i`ll look into it, or They appoint a new SID
    and the process starts all over again. Bottom line is, nobody at Mac
     seems to have the skills or authority to get-er-done! Just look at the
    time line and no results.
     Plus i`ve kept all my e-mails, coming and going. Nothing like "back-up."
    MacMurray`s had (i) one really good, competent, up to the minute SID
    by the name of Bostwick. 
    Under his watch everything was up to date.......period. Sadly he left to do high school and radio stuff.
    Some D-3 schools have great Football web sites. Sadly, MacMurray is not one of them! 
   
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on April 11, 2007, 08:26:39 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2007, 02:25:10 AM
This isn't what they're talking about, though, formerd3db. This is what they're talking about:

Quote from: Reeno10 on April 09, 2007, 09:23:32 AM
people work hard to break records and when they finally do MAC doesnt recongize them in any form at all.

The individual records page does indeed appear to be deleted. I spent a little time looking for it in Archive.org and came up empty, though I did not search every possible archived date.

  Pat:
     You are correct about the " Football RECORD Book" section of the Mac Football site  being deleted
     .   Their site (football) only lists "Yearly" Records at this time. Plus other stuff unrelated to individual performances. 
     The previous SID, e-mailed me on 9/22/06 ref :missing History Book data.  His comment was, "At some point in time the page was  deleted from our website as well as our server."  They have/had no back-up! 
  It was pointed out to The school President, in hopes he would tell sombody to get on the ball and get this corrected .......now! Nope. He`s
   going to retire. The Athletic Dir was informed in hopes he would see the problem and take action. Nope. He`s gone. The (2 time) SID/Softball Coach was asked repeatly to assist in correcting the problem. Nope. The comment made was, " All information is placed on and taken off by the college webmistress, not myself." She did say, however, " Thus, some information
  may have been dropped from the prior site."
   25 years of MacMurray Football History "dropped" ? As the steward of
   something important  to a lot of guys over many years and that`s it?
    Dropped! 
   The previous SID (not re-hired) who knew of the deletion and the many problems on the FB site said," my interns will soon begin the process revising our record books..........." Interns? MacMurray has very cavalier  in their handling of  records that many a player is duly proud of. 
   To this date nothing has been done by MacMurray to correct this major
   blunder!
  
  Pat: Thanks for taking an interest.

 

  
 
    
  
   

        


Guys, I was just trying to be helpful and also mention what I saw.  I was referring to the fact that there was still some "records" listed on the website - I realize that the year-to-year results and career results were missing (essentially that is what I posted).  As can be seen and as of today, the following are listed on the MAC website:

Single Season records (includes names and stats of these)\
Letterwinners - this was up on the site yesterday, however, in not listed as of today, there is now a statement that this is being worked on/updated and inviting former letterwinnders to email in to make sure they are included in the list
Highlanders in Pro Football (still listed)
Award Winners (still listed and goes back to 1989 inclusive)

Gomer, I'm glad you are working on the remaining career and year-by-year results/records and hopefully that can be restored.  Again, good luck and keep us posted.

formerd3db
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2007, 01:56:45 PM
Is this page what you guys were looking for?
http://www.gomachighlanders.com/m_football_history_singleseason.asp
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on April 11, 2007, 03:00:54 PM
when did Olindo Mare play for MacMuray?

He definetly lists his college as Syracuse...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2007, 03:09:17 PM
He did play at MacMurray before Syracuse.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on April 11, 2007, 03:11:09 PM
I didn't doubt it, but I've never heard talk of him in D-III before on any of the other discussion boards regarding D-III alums in the pros...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 11, 2007, 05:36:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2007, 01:56:45 PM
Is this page what you guys were looking for?
http://www.gomachighlanders.com/m_football_history_singleseason.asp

  Pat, No.
    The " Football Record Book" section has been ......deleted.
     Not trying to be a wise AZZ (really) but the Single Season records have been there.  They are not the issue. That site is "kind of" up to date.

     The "Football Record Book",  stats were ....Deleted, from Mac and their server.
     The "deleted " part has :  Individual Career Stats, Individual game
      highs, etc. In fact it`s listed in the categories of: Game, Season and career. These are the records that put FB players in the elite
      category, IMO.
      All that information goes back 25 yrs, give or take.
      I know your trying to help unravel this blunder by the MacMurray staff
      and until they guit ducking the problem the negative drum beat will go
      on.
     

           
     
     
     
     
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 11, 2007, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on April 11, 2007, 03:00:54 PM
when did Olindo Mare play for MacMuray?

He definetly lists his college as Syracuse...

  1991.  That`s what it lists in their (MacMurray) Single Season record section.
  Good thing that wasn`t deleted or we wouldn`t know that. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2007, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on April 11, 2007, 05:36:48 PM
      I know your trying to help unravel this blunder by the MacMurray staff
      and until they guit ducking the problem the negative drum beat will go
      on.

OK, well, I understand your frustration, but this is not the place to continue your drum beat. Just a heads-up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 12, 2007, 07:21:41 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2007, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on April 11, 2007, 05:36:48 PM
      I know your trying to help unravel this blunder by the MacMurray staff
      and until they guit ducking the problem the negative drum beat will go
      on.

OK, well, I understand your frustration, but this is not the place to continue your drum beat. Just a heads-up.

   Understand your comment, thanks for your efforts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on April 12, 2007, 05:48:11 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on April 06, 2007, 08:05:46 PM
Well....Well....Well, i haven't been on here for a while but i have seen the topic!!! Here are the cold hard facts about MAC.....

1)Coaches are getting fired and mac is loosing coaches for all sports..

2) THE PATHETIC ATHLETIC DIRECTOR for MAC resigned to go to Arizona to be a recruiter(Note: he fired everyone..Whole coaching staff, Laundry people, and TRAINER, in the middle of the season and now is leaving months later)

3) There is no SID!!!

4) Facilites are TERRIBLE!!

5)WE HAD NO BANQUET FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM AT ALL THIS YEAR!!

6) THERE WAS NO SENIOR PLAQUES OR EVEN RECOGNITION FOR 4 YEAR LETTER WINNING SENIORS..(FIRST YEAR THIS HAS HAPPEN SINCE I BEEN HERE)

Gentlemen.....These are the facts whether you like it or not...MAC is going down hill they have only 1 coach as of now in the off season!! Although i heard he was a terrific guy and coach but it is a shame how the AD just RESIGNED AND TORE DOWN THE PROGRAM AND THEN JUST LEFT!!! I love the guys who play for the team....GREAT BUNCH OF GUYS but this team is going to stuggle bc of off the field distractions as well as other things...

Even though i played for MAC, i will never endorse this school for recruits to go to bc of the mishaps that happen to me as well as all the seniors this past year and it is a dam shame how this program went down hill so fast bc when i came here it was a honor to play for the team and be apart of the tradition!!! This is coming from a player who came from one of the biggest high schools in florida to MAC and was a team player....... I dont know but my predictions for this year as of now is...

1)LAKELAND...Yes, you heard... COACH Z is GREAT AS well as the returners...COME ON PAIN TRAIN...TIME IS NOW!
2)CUW
3)Greenville-QB IS GREAT
4)BU- YOUNG TALENT WILL BE READY FROM PAST YEARS.
5)AU
6)Riverforest
7)EUREKA
8)MAC- Sorry guys but look out for #6 Scotty Gregory (BEAST, GARRAUNTEE 1st team linebacker)

Let me know what you all think about the situation at MAC not the picks bc it has been tearing me up now that i am graduating and that i feel like i got STIFFED my senior year!

1. first of all it was the Administration that fired the coaches.  it was not the AD, he was just the one that had to deliver the news and communicate the decisions back and forth.  also, some of the other coaches are leaving because they got great job offers elsewhere, one at a DII and the other back at their alma mater.  besides, the Mac football coaches obviously were not getting done going 19-21 in four years.  a change needed to be made.

2. I agree the facilities are not up to par, but they have gotten the job done so far. 

3. there were also other sports that did not get their banquet either, not just football, so it is not just the football team that was singled out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 12, 2007, 08:29:39 PM
NCAA it was the ad who fired everyone, not the administration, you do not what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 13, 2007, 01:45:58 PM
NCAA  it was the AD the fired everyone not the adminstration so i dont know what ur talkn about guy.. any way MAC is going down hill they dont know how to recongince achivments that players do.. they never did when i went to school there... the AD messed that program up and left what a AZZ
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on April 16, 2007, 12:08:41 AM
Quote from: catch22 on April 12, 2007, 08:29:39 PM
NCAA it was the ad who fired everyone, not the administration, you do not what you are talking about.


The Dean of the College was the man that made the final decision to fire the coaches because they did not have masters degrees.  This was a decision made throughout many of the meetings that the Administrative staff had throughout the whole process.

Now, on to something else, just because I have a different view on the whole situation than you do does not mean that you need to email me personally and slander me.  Thats just wrong, and does not help any of the situation.  Number two, Just because I disagree with you does not mean that I am jealous of any of the former players on the MacMurray football team. 

Lastly, This is a discussion board to discuss football and enjoy doing it, not to argue about certain situations like this, so this is my last post over this subject.  I guess we can agree to disagree on this particular subject.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 16, 2007, 01:49:23 AM
You can't slander someone in an e-mail to them. You can't damage someone's reputation by e-mailing them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 16, 2007, 10:02:49 AM
NCAA,

Come on the facilities do no get it done, I am still pulling glass, rocks, and who knows what else out my ass because of that football field.  We dropped wrestling to pay for the weight room improvements, which has standing water in it when it rains, the roof leaks to the Ed. Complex. Every school we faced on our schedule (for exception of Eureka, no offense) had better facilities than us. Man get real. Mac will go 0-10 next year, because of all the GOOD players that left, Rodney Payne, Chris Baker, Terry Martin, Evan Brunner, Eric Shwartz, Nate Robinson, Pat Marler should I continue? All these players were All-conference performers, GOOD LUCK
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 16, 2007, 12:56:30 PM
is this the last year for this conference???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 16, 2007, 05:30:20 PM
Reeno 10

Yes Last year of the Illini-badger-Conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 17, 2007, 01:56:58 AM
Yes ladies and gentlemen FatalImpact has returned from hibernation.....Yes as catch22 said it will be the last year for the IBFC and I expect a dog fight, but I believe AU comes out on top...IMO
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 17, 2007, 07:53:41 AM
Hey coach at MAC we r not trying to ruin the football progam. It has been on the down fall you just step into it. I wish MAC the best this year but I am upset with the old AD and the school itself why

1. most important the seniors on that football team this year didnt have  banquet to recieve the awards that are well deserved.... MAC doesnt care

2. The four year letterman are suppose to get a senior Plaque.. did they no not just no but MAC keeps giving them the run round and its a shame that these guys will never see it bull**** to me.. but #9 i got mine and its nice haha jk

3. i have records at MAC and i never received recognation just a dam  football at the last game.. and what i am upset about is MAC deleted these records the career and the single game but they still have in a season and now they are claiming they dont know where the internet page went and the old SID the softball coach gave us the run around on we will get them up and some other bull**** excuses are they up no..how do u delete awhole records page???????????

its just the same old bull**** about MAC they dont care about there students and alumni.. i always get mail saying be good alumni like it was said early in this forum but im not because MAC is just giving everyone the run around so coach at MAC its nothing against you.. You just walked into the wrong situation and im not going to stop talking on here about MAC until i see progress with the things i am upset about... i would like to see my records page put on the website but if that cant be done take care of the seniors that played there azz off for u in that MAC uniform give those ball players what they deserve and that is not getting shafted what you are doing.. some players come all the way from FLA like me and this is the way you treat us.. so when im talkn to people saying dont go there im talking to players in FLA because they dont treat you right thats all........
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 17, 2007, 09:10:36 AM
That really sux that the SID and stuff do that at Mac, it seems real shady, how many of these people still have a job there?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 17, 2007, 02:08:22 PM
Prediction for 2007

1.CUW - They are the champs until someone knock them out.

2.Aurora - improved throughout the year, must improve defense.

3. Greenville - lost their best player in JR, QB could be poy

4. Benedictine - Solid team

5. Lakeland - Good receiver, defense is solid

6. CUC - improved team, will win more games, have a new attitude.

7. Eureka - good young qb, will win one game.

8. Mac - will not win one conference game, maybe 1-9 Turd Bowl vs. Blackburn College.

Those are my predictions for 2007.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 17, 2007, 08:04:51 PM
Good predictions, as I'm sure all the teams are hard at work tryin to take CUW out, and CUW wants the crown again, but AU is a hungry team that wants the title, who knows what this season will hold
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: timbo on April 18, 2007, 09:27:59 AM
Does anybody think Aurora has what it takes to win it all this year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 18, 2007, 06:58:27 PM
I do, they were young last year and hung around, now they got experience they will most likely take it all...IMO
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 18, 2007, 07:04:52 PM
However it will all be up in the air i expect good things from AU this year, but it could turn into a dogfight at the top....Who knows
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 18, 2007, 10:26:28 PM
Spring Ball Reports?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 18, 2007, 10:34:25 PM
At Mac we have 1 coach and 20 players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 18, 2007, 10:48:25 PM
Wow, that sucks, have they even started interviewing yet?  I would think they would have had to.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on April 18, 2007, 11:55:52 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on April 18, 2007, 10:48:25 PM
Wow, that sucks, have they even started interviewing yet?  I would think they would have had to.

Fatal,

Mac has been interviewing plenty of candidates, they will be here soon to help Mac be successful next year.

Mac has had a great spring ball and they have worked very hard in the off season.  They should be very competitive next year. 

Is Aurora's whole team coming back, were they a lot of underclassmen?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: timbo on April 19, 2007, 12:00:48 AM
I was looking at Aurora's stats versus the conference last season and generally speaking they were pretty middle of the road for the conference but they managed to finished tied for second.  Not sure how they did that, but if they have a lot of experienced players returning, things should be even better next season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 19, 2007, 09:11:43 AM
NCAA , I am laughing my ass off, Mac will not be competitive! How could you say that. 20 players, and 1 coach. Who is starting on the offensive line, your two best lineman transfered. (Brunner, Swarzt) who is your starting QB (you), thats even funnier, Mac will have negative yards in total offense if that is the case, defense who do you have, No one on the defense line, at who Linebacker, Pirollo is graduating, Gregory is coming off major knee surgery, you had Payne but he transfered and DB's now that is not funny, 2007 will be a miserable season.

the administration at MacMurray DO NOT CARE, if they did we would have had a banquet, the seniors would have had they plaques, AND you would have more than 1 coach. By the start of the season we will have less than 30 players, which means a long, misserable season. Well at least you are playing, right QB?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 19, 2007, 09:47:04 AM
AU does, wow mac is havin some problems
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 19, 2007, 12:43:56 PM
thats pretty sad about MAC that once was a hell of a program and i got 2 rings on my hand to prove it now it cant even compete why doesnt MAC just play the JV schedule and hope for better luck in 08' in the new conference....1 coach and 20 players wow thanks old AD for ruining the program
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 19, 2007, 01:03:34 PM
Reeno 10

That is very sad, what the AD did, but the thing about it is the AD left, and he would always past the buck to the Dean and the Dean would pass the buck back to the AD, they are all cowards.

Senior year = no banquet, no plaques, and I played my ass off for this school and for what. To be treated like this, student-athletes are the reason these bums have a job.

If they played a JV schedule they would probably win two games.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on April 19, 2007, 03:01:10 PM
QuoteReeno 10

That is very sad, what the AD did, but the thing about it is the AD left, and he would always past the buck to the Dean and the Dean would pass the buck back to the AD, they are all cowards.

Senior year = no banquet, no plaques, and I played my ass off for this school and for what. To be treated like this, student-athletes are the reason these bums have a job.
If they played a JV schedule they would probably win two games.

Especially at Mac where the athletes make up a huge portion of the the student body.  Maybe they think the new art music centers are going to make enrollment soar to heights unseen before...   ???

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 19, 2007, 03:27:31 PM
yeah macs got problems
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: timbo on April 19, 2007, 10:34:00 PM
Of the teams that finished with winning records last year, who has the best coaches?

Any new coaches in the conf besides Mac.  Anybody know anything about him?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 20, 2007, 07:37:52 AM
from my source at MAC this guy is trying to run bosie states off. i dont know anything about him but he has alot to do to bring MAC back to the powerhouse it once was in that conference
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 20, 2007, 09:38:13 AM
Mac can bring in Behlichic or Lombardi and they still will not win games with 20 players, Sphuler is their starting tailback, so what does that tell you. Mac should just be become a all-womens school again,
because they probably would produce a better football team, and we as seniors would have our plaques and football banquet for the four years we committed to Mac.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 21, 2007, 08:28:06 AM
How is the one coach, any good? or with the others?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cougarqb4 on April 21, 2007, 03:42:38 PM
woah here lets take it easy on Mac yes they are having some problems right now but they will bounce back and get something figured out.. let talk about something more important like spring ball and predictions for the year... how r things going??? All is going well at cougar camp with some new transfers and big recruiting class this year hope everyone else is have a great spring ball good luck to all ibc teams!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on April 22, 2007, 11:01:13 PM
Is CUC getting that D-I transfer RB from South Carolina Cougarqb??

maybe Marcus Elmwood could answer that too.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cougarqb4 on April 24, 2007, 10:02:55 AM
baseman, as far as the D-1 transfer from south carolina I havent heard anything about that but, it is possible that we are getting a Transfer from Northern Illinois who is a RB.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 24, 2007, 01:09:40 PM
MAC to get Bradey Quinns lil bro guess he couldnt go D1 because of grades??????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bp10 on April 24, 2007, 01:37:05 PM
Im a former BU player...can anyone from BU update me on how the team is looking...any players from 2000-2004 here?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on April 24, 2007, 02:41:50 PM
Quote from: bp10 on April 24, 2007, 01:37:05 PM
Im a former BU player...can anyone from BU update me on how the team is looking...any players from 2000-2004 here?

I'm not from BU, but they should have a good season this year.  They have really improved and have started to win in non-conference again (allbeit only one game in non-con last year) but don't be surprised if they turn a couple heads.  They've been really really young the last couple years, but the coach and the new facilities are starting to draw some kids to Lilse and they could pull some upsets again this year.  They won three games in conference and should improve on that...thier losses to everyone but CUW were by 14, 7 (in OT), and 8...very winnable ball games if a play or two goes the other way.  I don't think they will vie for the title next year but they will be in the top half
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bp10 on April 24, 2007, 04:42:30 PM
OK..thanks man for the update--how is the conference? Are their alot of good payers?  I remember from 2000-2001, 2001-2002 there were alot of good players in this leauge..I mean every team had guys who could have played at a higher level of college football.  I remember the linebacker and d-linemen from Greenville was tough, AU had a bunch of studs, Curf had a bunch of athletes, Cuw-was stacked, Mac had a running back who was all-american in D-III, EU was BIG, and We had a Monster D with a stud at QB..I remember we beat U of C that year--they were ranked and we knocked them out of the top 25..is the leauge is stcked like that?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on April 24, 2007, 06:18:11 PM
Uhm, I wouldn't really say the IBC has ever been "stacked".

Considering the best team in our conference got beat pretty bad in the playoffs last year, and the year before was the same outcome.

But back to this MAC comment, Brady Quinns brother going to MAC??  Say what now??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 24, 2007, 10:02:27 PM
This conference is strong, maybe not as stacked as others but we're strong
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 24, 2007, 10:03:49 PM
Is Brady Quins bro really goin' to mac, if so, all he should really think about it, and also he can only make that team better
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on April 25, 2007, 12:26:10 AM
Fatal, I wouldn't consider the 2nd worst conference in D-III "strong".
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 25, 2007, 12:27:47 AM
then you either havent played in a while or just dont care
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 25, 2007, 12:28:47 AM
I beg to differ, our conference is strong, other conferences are just a lil stronger....200
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 25, 2007, 01:45:39 AM
That's a big dose of denial you're taking there, then. If the IBC is "strong" then there aren't even words to describe other conferences, since almost every other league is better, and most leagues are light-years better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on April 25, 2007, 10:36:30 AM
First off, thank you very much Pat, most appreciated.

Well, I do pay attention to the conference which is why I dissagreed with you, and I am only a couple years out of playing in this conference (played in 2004 and 2005).

And just because I say this conference isn't strong doesn't mean I don't care.  I wanted so much for CUW to beat North Central last year to give the IBC their first playoff win (knew they wouldn't beat NC a second time though).  But you do have to be realistic sometimes and the realization is this conference isn't strong or good. 

Now I hope in the future it changes with the formation of the NAC and we get a playoff win.  But in my opinion the IBC is better off not even existing, starting fresh and new is the best thing to happen to all the teams, whether they are playing each other in the same conference or not.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on April 25, 2007, 10:51:46 AM
I gotta agree with Baseman here...

2006: No team (aside from CUW) won more than one non-conference game. Compare that to other conferences that play a 3 game non conference schedule and the level of talent they play.

Considering that Concordia (IL), Greenville, and MacMurry's non conference win was against Blackburn, whom I consider well below the IBC "standard." (They went 3-7 IND beating teams that were a combined 5-23)

Concordia (WI) had a great win against NCC in 2OT, but Simpson and Wisconsin Lutheran are not winning programs (Simpson 3-7, WLU 0-10)  Concordia then got trounced in the play-off game 35-6

Benedictine beat NPU (1-9)

You have to play against at least .500 competition and beat them to be considered "strong" I wouldn't call most of the games played by IBC teams (with the exception of CUW) in non-conference competitive
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: matblake on April 25, 2007, 10:53:11 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on April 25, 2007, 10:36:30 AM
Well, I do pay attention to the conference which is why I dissagreed with you, and I am only a couple years out of playing in this conference (played in 2004 and 2005).

And just because I say this conference isn't strong doesn't mean I don't care.  I wanted so much for CUW to beat North Central last year to give the IBC their first playoff win (knew they wouldn't beat NC a second time though).  But you do have to be realistic sometimes and the realization is this conference isn't strong or good. 

Your conference is your conference, no matter the level of strength.  That is what is so much fun about this site.  It is a place for discussion and debate, but at the end of the day, it is about the entire experience of Division III football, no matter the results that take place on the field for your team each season.l
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on April 25, 2007, 10:58:36 AM
I would agree that IBC teams have gotten BETTER...no doubt.  The conference outcome shows that there is greater parity within the conference, that makes me believe that its no longer just one or two teams that are good enough to win the conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bacardi101 on April 25, 2007, 04:14:48 PM
You know what is the funniest thing about the MacMurray football program? It is the former players such as larry and anthonyB. They are the ones that make this college terrible. They think they can come on here after all is said and done with their college careers (which larry  yours will always be tainted) and talk all this crap about how bad it was. The only mistake Mac made was hiring the worst head football coach mcray. WOW did he not know how to coach in a big game. Everyone knows that Mac couldnt win the big game with him calling the plays.

Also I think that the firing of the football coaches needs to be cleared up. They got fired because they didnt have their masters. Thats it. And the Haslam left because he got a WAY better job at ASU.

So if larry or Anthony can come up with another excuse on how mac sucks they need to look at how the recruiting went on. WOW did mac recruit either complete idiots. The recruiting went down hill when mcray took over.

Did you know the GPA was under a 2.0 as a team last season. And the people that dragged that down are thankfully gone.

And as for losing good players, mac didnt lose anything but overrated players, the only one that hurts is payne. Other wise that schwart kid over rated. that pat kid looked like a big dumb idiot that didnt know how to play. and that bruhner kid is probably in rehab center for steroids.  But who cares right larry got a ring....oh wait he didnt!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 25, 2007, 05:01:16 PM
Bacardi101 so what you are saying is Mac will improve on its record from  lasty year's team, since the guys you mention are gone?

Question did you ever see the field? or are you just mad because you did not play? and if you are at Mac who recruited you?

And who would want to go a school like Mac when you have IC down the street, better facilities, better parties, better looking girls.

Its like the greasers versus the socials.  The smart people left Mac, face it the school will be close after the 2007 season, our degrees will probably not mean a thing, you fat bastard.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bacardi101 on April 25, 2007, 05:07:01 PM
You are right i used to go to mac, when we were good. not when you guys came in and put that place into a sh@t hole. I got my two rings and i EARNED THEM!! you might have not gotten them. I just know what i see, and why wont you donate money to make it look better. I do, I try to make mac look respectable. You on the other hand are a low life who made mac bad. I know what i saw i know what i heard. Mac will improve from last year because they have heart they stuck it out, they dont cry and they are TEAM PLAYERS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on April 25, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
Bacardi101 WOW now who is upset, temper, temper, Mac was a ****hole before we both got there, realize this fact, and lets move forward, when a college goes down hill like Mac has been doing for some years, you must look at the top, not just the football program, went south, but so has the entire campus,and those people have left, and  that football field that I played on, I am still pulling rocks and glass out my ass because of the field, Mac will not win a single game next year because of people like you Sphuler. Be a man and say who you are, or go play frisbee with Chris Fouts on Rutledge lawn, or miss every block, so I will get the hell beat out of me because of you. Our degrees may mean something in a 100 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: The Observation Deck on April 25, 2007, 10:36:32 PM
Quote from: bacardi101 on April 25, 2007, 04:14:48 PM
Did you know the GPA was under a 2.0 as a team last season. And the people that dragged that down are thankfully gone.

Not hard to believe when you attempt to read the posts on this board.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bacardi101 on April 25, 2007, 10:54:38 PM
I know and its even better when you get emails that are just down right mean, Sorry I like to speak my mind along with all the other people on here.

And  you know what if mac does go 0-10 next year they will do so as a team and not individuals.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on April 25, 2007, 11:25:48 PM
Quote from: catch22 on April 25, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
Bacardi101 WOW now who is upset, temper, temper, Mac was a ****hole before we both got there, realize this fact, and lets move forward, when a college goes down hill like Mac has been doing for some years, you must look at the top, not just the football program, went south, but so has the entire campus,and those people have left, and  that football field that I played on, I am still pulling rocks and glass out my ass because of the field, Mac will not win a single game next year because of people like you Sphuler. Be a man and say who you are, or go play frisbee with Chris Fouts on Rutledge lawn, or miss every block, so I will get the hell beat out of me because of you. Our degrees may mean something in a 100 years.

Man, lay off, its apparent you hate Mac, and everyone else that goes there.  You should really go try and find something better to do with your life instead of sitting on your computer and ripping Mac by saying the same thing over and over.  Its like a broken record, listening to you hate on the same team and players every week.  You could probably be a better asset to this site by at least bringing up a decent topic to talk about instead of saying the same thing every week like insulting the football team and their players, and then e-mailing them personally because you disagree with other people on the board.  Man, I really do feel bad for you, people used to respect you at that school, but not anymore.  For someone that acted like he cared, you sure did fool everyone.

Anyway, Hope all the schools had a great spring ball and got things accomplished.  Should be a great season to come.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on April 26, 2007, 12:53:57 AM
The Observation Deck-

I hear you man, look at some posts in the past, it drops your IQ just reading them.

And since we are on the subject of MAC, I really don't know who has a crappier campus, MAC or Eureka, they both may equally take the cake in that category. 

Although Eureka had something that beats everyone else........their scoreboard in the gym.  It's one of those drop down cube shape scoreboards right above center court, it was sweet......but I guess that's the best thing I saw when I was there.

Sounds to me like MAC has serious issues though, and not just on the football field (which fills the holes on their field with rubber scraps).

Oh wait, watching the kickers kick PATs and field goals into a trailer park was pretty sweet too, ahhhhh the memories.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: timbo on April 26, 2007, 01:15:48 AM
I have been reading the posts from the guys trashing Mac because they didn't get a dinner or a
plaque.  Looking at the past results on this site it looks like after winning two conference
championships, Mac changed coaches and the last 4 years haven't been as good and gradually
getting worse.  From what I read, the old coach was let go along with other coaches because he
didn't have the degree to teach.  I don't know why the old coach didn't have a dinner before he left.
Even if he was fired its a shame he didn't do something for his players.  If I had to pay for it out of
my own pocket and all I could afford was pizzas, we would have had a dinner.

Looks like Mac got a new HC from Endicott.  Will be interesting to see how he does.  According
to the Endicott website they started football in 2003 and he was there at the beginning. He was a
DC before he got to Mac. Looking at Endicott stats on NCAA there are some interesting
numbers.

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings?doWhat=archive&sportCode=MFB

Endicott went from nothing to one of the best defenses in the nation in 3 years.  Maybe Mac got
the guy they need to rebuild the program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 26, 2007, 03:25:46 AM
Perhaps. But numbers can be deceiving. There's one conference that's considered worse than the IBFC, and it's the one Endicott plays in.

Still, there's the thought that Endicott might be able to build itself into a program that can transcend that league.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 26, 2007, 07:47:02 AM
HAHAHA   catch22 that was funny man what u said but barcadi101 aka SPHULER u serious bro me making up excues my main argument is the fact that earsed the records pages from the website and they keep givivng me the run around on when they will get it up buddy it has been 3 years now and they keep givivng them same **** why cant anyone fix anything at MAC and bro i got my 2 rings when i was there MAC was a hell of a program but SPHULER i know how u block dude u missed so many blocks let me reapeat that so many blocks  man when i was running that rocket screen or when pete had to run behind u  you got blown up by everyone so dont talk dude like ur the next GOD at that school because u suck and larrys career wont be tainted he was an ALL- AMERICAN what r u???? did u even get honerable mention???? so when u say im saying MAC is going to suck dude im hearing it from the players themselves up there dude so its ur teamates telling me this ok and i am team player man dont get me wrong there...MAC has always been a **** hole it has  sorry to say that... if the team was below a 2.0 GPA arent u on the team dude????maybe it was time for a new HC but the way they did it was wrong they shouldnt waited until the rest of the season was over so u guys didnt tank the season.. also i saw that u said the AD left for a BETTER JOB no **** dude i would leave =MAC to for a better job and ur acting like MAC's a hell of a school so go get ur boy and go play with each other on rugtledge lawn......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on April 26, 2007, 08:48:26 AM
Quote from: catch22 on April 25, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
...and  that football field that I played on, I am still pulling rocks and glass out my ass because of the field, 

Maybe you shouldn't have gotten knocked on it so much!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: timbo on April 26, 2007, 09:13:21 AM
Is there a possibility that CUC will improve this season?  Website says they got a new DC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bacardi101 on April 26, 2007, 11:11:03 AM
WOW reno10 you are as dumb now as when i met you my junior year. This is not sphuler or however you spell his last name. I am pretty sure though that larry was only a pre-season all American thats amazing but did he improve on that. NO!! and as for your records. If thats all you cared about then WOW im sorry you are still holding on after how many years removed. And its not hard to break the records when you are the only one getting the ball ie Pete. what i saw was that he ran the ball against the two worst teams in the conference 90 plus times. wow woo watch out Pete can run over Blackburn and eureka. I mean if you stuck around for what was it 7 total years of college football or 6.

Also if all of these amazing players hated it so much then why did you go there in the first place? Why not transfer out and go somewhere else?

And if I remember correctly when I went to go see Mac play lakeland three years ago im  pretty sure that larry kid was screaming at his coach, Coach rogers. who is ten times better than mcray. I think that every kid should do that to earn an All American position.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on April 26, 2007, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on April 26, 2007, 08:48:26 AM
Quote from: catch22 on April 25, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
...and  that football field that I played on, I am still pulling rocks and glass out my ass because of the field, 

Maybe you shouldn't have gotten knocked on it so much!!!  ::)

;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on April 26, 2007, 05:39:20 PM
Hey....this stuff has to stop!!!!   >:(  I am terribly sorry to the post room because this has gotten out of hand!!!! My playing days are over and i dont need to see this stuff over the internet!!! LOOK....The people i have played with over my career as well as played against respect me and my talent and effort that i put forth every time i step on the field!!! I would appreciate if who ever it is that has a problem with me to come find me and tell this to my face because this internet stuff is a real COWARD move......Whomever you are is apparently jealous for whatever reason it may be!!! I dont know what else to say other than move on....Your obviously mad for whatever reason....Just talk about something else man....Your only hurting yourself more but talking trash about people that have proven themselves on the field.......You havent proven SH*T!!! The only thing you proven is that your an INTERNET TOUGH GUY!!!!! Chill out and use the motivation to better yourself because all your doing is letting me know i did a good job!!! HATERS.....I LOVE THEM!!!!

To all the teams in the IBFC......KEEP TRAINING........Send the confernce out right!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on April 26, 2007, 06:11:48 PM
Timbo-

CUC will keep improving year by year, whether it be by winning only one more game each year or two. 

They will be improving guaranteed.

I was watching Sportscenter today and on Mel Kipers top 5 players at each position Michael Allan was #5 on the list of TEs. 

But I really don't know how many TEs are in the draft.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 26, 2007, 06:32:04 PM
barcadi101 dude did i ever come off the field no did u even play probably not, and yes i am complaining about my records because i worked hard for them and i am proud of them and would like to look back on something that i achevied also MAC has been giving us the run around about it when they are going to fix it no of ur busniess dude.. i see why you are upset becuase you didnt set **** or do ****.. haha  about pete being school i agree with u he was there for a good minutebut at least he has records to look at.. but i love how ur hating on people, but lets goet off this talk and talk about football.... and about the dumbass thing i have a degree 2 at that so i must not be that dumb????barcardi101 who is thisstop hiding behind ur name
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on April 26, 2007, 08:16:03 PM
Quoteand about the dumbass thing i have a degree 2 at that so i must not be that dumb????barcardi101 who is thisstop hiding behind ur name

Uhm, is this what it takes to graduate from MAC???

Don't even get me started.

I guess way back when in grade school I was taught not to substitute numbers as words/letters in a sentence.

I guess I need 2 go back 2 skool yo.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on April 26, 2007, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on April 26, 2007, 08:16:03 PM
Quoteand about the dumbass thing i have a degree 2 at that so i must not be that dumb????barcardi101 who is thisstop hiding behind ur name

Uhm, is this what it takes to graduate from MAC???

Don't even get me started.

I guess way back when in grade school I was taught not to substitute numbers as words/letters in a sentence.

I guess I need 2 go back 2 skool yo.

This board cracks me up. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: timbo on April 26, 2007, 08:42:53 PM
It seems since text messaging became popular, the English language has taken a beating.  I don't particularly care for the abbreviations, but as long as I can understand the comment I would rather spend the energy discussing relevant topics instead of the bickering back and forth.

IMHO ok?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 27, 2007, 11:04:00 AM
what conference is the rest of the teams going to when this is over
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on April 27, 2007, 11:40:34 AM
Quote from: Reeno10 on April 27, 2007, 11:04:00 AM
what conference is the rest of the teams going to when this is over

Mac, Greenville, and I think Eureka will all join the SLIAC Conference.  Along with some of the other schools, I would guess the CCIW, especially the ones from Wisconsin.  Other than that, I don't know about the rest of the schools.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 27, 2007, 01:14:52 PM
the SLIAC is making a come back, is there going to be an automatic bid to the playoffs
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on April 27, 2007, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: NCAA Football on April 27, 2007, 11:40:34 AM
Quote from: Reeno10 on April 27, 2007, 11:04:00 AM
what conference is the rest of the teams going to when this is over

Mac, Greenville, and I think Eureka will all join the SLIAC Conference.  Along with some of the other schools, I would guess the CCIW, especially the ones from Wisconsin.  Other than that, I don't know about the rest of the schools.

There are no new schools joining the CCIW.  The other schools from IBC are joining the new NAC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on April 27, 2007, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on April 27, 2007, 01:14:52 PM
the SLIAC is making a come back, is there going to be an automatic bid to the playoffs

Pat would know for sure but I think in 2009 since they will have the number of teams necessary. There was a front page article about it sometime back but I can not remember specific details.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on April 27, 2007, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on April 27, 2007, 01:14:52 PM
the SLIAC is making a come back, is there going to be an automatic bid to the playoffs

There is no automatic bid like the first two years i think.  not sure though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lineman79 on April 27, 2007, 04:35:34 PM
Eureka, Mac, Greenville, Blackburn, Principia, Westminster, and two teams from Alabama, LaGrange and Huningdon will form the new SLIAC Football conference. I'm a little disappointed since originally teams from the UMAC were supposed to join and the new conference would take over their Dome Day. I think that is a cool concept but the UMAC school decided to stay. I find it interesting that there will be three schools with the Panther nickname in the SLIAC FB conference.

Also, Eureka has been working on improving thier facilities. Last summer a new grandstand and press box were put in the football field with play clocks, long time coming, and the are currently building an expansion to the Reagan Center. Rumors are they will put in a in floor and bleachers in the gym in the next couple of years which is good since the gym floor is in terrible shape. The school is also in the process of building two soccer fields for the new soccer team. Bottom line is Eureka is working to improve their facilities and have made some big strides.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on April 28, 2007, 10:42:48 AM
What are all these records you set reeno? and what was your team record at the time? just curious...oh and Pat or anyone...Are there IBFC all time records?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 30, 2007, 10:58:11 AM
Quote from: sotha sil on April 28, 2007, 10:42:48 AM
What are all these records you set reeno? and what was your team record at the time? just curious...oh and Pat or anyone...Are there IBFC all time records?

  Good question.  There are IBFC all time records of course but i believe your asking if they (records) are kept collectively by the conference. My answer would be no. Most schools have their own
  for : career, school and individual high game stats, etc. All except
   MacMurray that is.
  Would be nice to see who the "Top Dogs"  where/are.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 30, 2007, 12:41:15 PM
career TDs with 19
Tds in a season with 11
yds in a season with 1074
catches in a season with 84
catches in a game with 16...
just 5 of them
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 30, 2007, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: Reeno10 on April 30, 2007, 12:41:15 PM
career TDs with 19
Tds in a season with 11
yds in a season with 1074
catches in a season with 84
catches in a game with 16...
just 5 of them


    #10, you said, " career  TD`s 19." Wrong! It`s 20.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on April 30, 2007, 09:10:23 PM
True....Mills and Collier set some records the past couple years I am not sure what they exactly are though
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on May 02, 2007, 08:57:26 AM
I know its probably on the site somewhere and is already past, but can someone explain to me the D3 policy on spring practices?  Is it similar to the bigger schools?

TIA
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 02, 2007, 10:46:01 PM
Well, just spoke with a friend at CUC and it is confirmed that they are getting two D-I transfer RB's this year.  One from a D-I AA in South Carolina and another from Northern Illinois.

They are also getting some size at the O line position which is needed.

All in all this past year CUC had the most players it has had in years, and they will have even more this year.  Things are really starting to come together over there, and the big jump will be this year.

I guess we will just have to wait and see, but mark my words........CUC WILL beat teams this year they haven't beaten lately or have never beaten at all........mark it down kids.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on May 03, 2007, 09:13:07 AM
Transfers mean nothing unless they can produce...I've seen transfers come and go in some programs and never do a thing. At NCC we had a 6'7 340 lb OL transfer from Arkansas Pine Bluff (D-IAA) some years ago and he was horrible.  The O-Line coach at the time said we should all fear for our jobs...But we worked hard in the off-season and this kid sat on his butt and when spring ball and fall camp came around he could barely get in a stance...

Just because someone is comming from someplace "higher" doesn't mean they may not come with attitude, baggage, and poor work ethic (or poor ethic in general)

I can only remember one truely good/great transfer in my time there and he was an OLB from NIU who worked hard and had a good ethic...playing next to Lenny Radke he didn't get much press but he was solid.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 03, 2007, 03:32:20 PM
Well I honestly think this will definately help CUC more then hurt them.

A D-I transfer at CUC is big news, especially if they have a chance to help the team right away.

Sure there is always a chance they may do nothing, but it's exciting news for CUC and that's all that matters at this point.

Doesn't help to be negative.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on May 03, 2007, 03:43:10 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on May 03, 2007, 03:32:20 PM
Well I honestly think this will definately help CUC more then hurt them.

A D-I transfer at CUC is big news, especially if they have a chance to help the team right away.

Sure there is always a chance they may do nothing, but it's exciting news for CUC and that's all that matters at this point.

Doesn't help to be negative.

Its not negativity...its being realistic. Transfers can be welcome additions its true, but its not something any coach wants to build a program on.  They are usually quick fixes that get a year or two and are done or out of eligibility. CUC having more players incomming as freshman and sticking around is the better guage for improvment.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on May 03, 2007, 05:34:04 PM
Its gonna take a lot to work on improving CUC, thy may get more than one W but it would take a lot more than two transfers and some newbies but we'll have to wait and see, IMO I think they will struggle again but play a lot of teams close, I just dont think they can hang with CUW, Lakeland, AU, or Greenville
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: New Tradition on May 04, 2007, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on May 03, 2007, 09:13:07 AM
I can only remember one truely good/great transfer in my time there and he was an OLB from NIU who worked hard and had a good ethic...playing next to Lenny Radke he didn't get much press but he was solid.

Don't forget about Tyke...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 04, 2007, 10:58:24 AM
 CU-C`s record over the past 5 years, 2002 thru 2006  : Conference- 3wins- 32 L`s.
   Overall: 4wins with 46 L`s.
   I`d say they have lots of work to do. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cougarqb4 on May 04, 2007, 06:55:12 PM
i would like to say that yes we do have some work to do but i feel that we are improved and like all teams it takes time but this year we are coming ready to compete.. I feel anyone can hang with anyone in the conference on any given saturday but as for CUC we are will be ready i feel we can hang with anyone... i wish all the teams good luck this summer in training and cant wait for next year

GO COUGARS!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 04, 2007, 08:11:02 PM
Gomer-

I never said they didn't have lots of work to do, they definately do.

I am not saying they will be 10-0 this season, they need to progress a step at a time.  Maybe a 500 record this year, 7-3 next year, then who knows.

it does take time to build a good program I agree.

In 1999 Monmouth college was 2-8, in 2000 they were 3-7, and then in 2001 they went 8-2.  And since then they have been consistent with winning seasons, going 39-12 since that time.

I guess just depends on who sticks around for 4 years and who leaves after just 1. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on May 06, 2007, 02:06:31 AM
Hello, I know I know, it just has not been the same here with out me, But i am back and stronger then ever!!

I see that there are some new faces around, cougarqb4 for example...I have to ask is that a 4 as in Mr. Farve or 4 as in four years of cuc football?

Oh, and everyone who is cuc hating...relax, this team is getting comfy with the great staff they have, and Pries is working the players hard, and the best part is that the quality of life around cuc is really getting better, it is really a great time to be a cougar! The team is close and the coaches are on a level with the players the cuc has not seen in a very long time, maybe the 80's or 70's. the point is, that the cougars are a team that you have to practice for now. Last years showing with CUW and the overwhelming defeat of Eurika are too reasons why each team has to worry a little when they play cuc. Oh and have a mentioned BIG CAT!!! that is right everyone, CUC has a pro on the staff, and let me tell you something! He Is massive and a great teacher of the OL position! I want to see joe shmo OL coach of Mcmurry out coach BIG CAT!!! I know that the coaches don't play the games, which is why the cougars have some work to do. It is no summer vaca for them. Hard work and work are on the menu for everyone who wants to see success!!! Coach P has made that very clear! I am pumped for the season and would like all of you to come out and see us in action!

Go Cougars
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Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on May 06, 2007, 02:17:17 AM
Oh and if  the rumors are true about he d1 form Northern Ill? and if it is who i thing he is, he had an awsome high school career, but had some major off the field problems. I played agaisnt him and he could run, and that is good considering he is a running back! Lets just hope that if it is who i think it is and he comes to cuc, he has grown up and is not a cancer on the team, we have gotter rid of the cancers and are looking forward to a great season of many victorys!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2007, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: 7400West on May 06, 2007, 02:06:31 AM
Hello, I know I know, it just has not been the same here with out me, But i am back and stronger then ever!!

I see that there are some new faces around, cougarqb4 for example...I have to ask is that a 4 as in Mr. Farve or 4 as in four years of cuc football?

Oh, and everyone who is cuc hating...relax, this team is getting comfy with the great staff they have, and Pries is working the players hard, and the best part is that the quality of life around cuc is really getting better, it is really a great time to be a cougar! The team is close and the coaches are on a level with the players the cuc has not seen in a very long time, maybe the 80's or 70's. the point is, that the cougars are a team that you have to practice for now. Last years showing with CUW and the overwhelming defeat of Eurika are too reasons why each team has to worry a little when they play cuc. Oh and have a mentioned BIG CAT!!! that is right everyone, CUC has a pro on the staff, and let me tell you something! He Is massive and a great teacher of the OL position! I want to see joe shmo OL coach of Mcmurry out coach BIG CAT!!! I know that the coaches don't play the games, which is why the cougars have some work to do. It is no summer vaca for them. Hard work and work are on the menu for everyone who wants to see success!!! Coach P has made that very clear! I am pumped for the season and would like all of you to come out and see us in action!

Go Cougars
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Remember. MacMurray is IBC from Illinois.  McMurry is ASC from Texas.  ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on May 06, 2007, 11:36:29 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2007, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: 7400West on May 06, 2007, 02:06:31 AM
Hello, I know I know, it just has not been the same here with out me, But i am back and stronger then ever!!

I see that there are some new faces around, cougarqb4 for example...I have to ask is that a 4 as in Mr. Farve or 4 as in four years of cuc football?

Oh, and everyone who is cuc hating...relax, this team is getting comfy with the great staff they have, and Pries is working the players hard, and the best part is that the quality of life around cuc is really getting better, it is really a great time to be a cougar! The team is close and the coaches are on a level with the players the cuc has not seen in a very long time, maybe the 80's or 70's. the point is, that the cougars are a team that you have to practice for now. Last years showing with CUW and the overwhelming defeat of Eurika are too reasons why each team has to worry a little when they play cuc. Oh and have a mentioned BIG CAT!!! that is right everyone, CUC has a pro on the staff, and let me tell you something! He Is massive and a great teacher of the OL position! I want to see joe shmo OL coach of Mcmurry out coach BIG CAT!!! I know that the coaches don't play the games, which is why the cougars have some work to do. It is no summer vaca for them. Hard work and work are on the menu for everyone who wants to see success!!! Coach P has made that very clear! I am pumped for the season and would like all of you to come out and see us in action!

Go Cougars
[/shadow]


Remember. MacMurray is IBC from Illinois.  McMurry is ASC from Texas.  ;)


Sorry!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2007, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: 7400West on May 06, 2007, 11:36:29 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2007, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: 7400West on May 06, 2007, 02:06:31 AM
Hello, I know I know, it just has not been the same here with out me, But i am back and stronger then ever!!

I see that there are some new faces around, cougarqb4 for example...I have to ask is that a 4 as in Mr. Farve or 4 as in four years of cuc football?

Oh, and everyone who is cuc hating...relax, this team is getting comfy with the great staff they have, and Pries is working the players hard, and the best part is that the quality of life around cuc is really getting better, it is really a great time to be a cougar! The team is close and the coaches are on a level with the players the cuc has not seen in a very long time, maybe the 80's or 70's. the point is, that the cougars are a team that you have to practice for now. Last years showing with CUW and the overwhelming defeat of Eurika are too reasons why each team has to worry a little when they play cuc. Oh and have a mentioned BIG CAT!!! that is right everyone, CUC has a pro on the staff, and let me tell you something! He Is massive and a great teacher of the OL position! I want to see joe shmo OL coach of Mcmurry out coach BIG CAT!!! I know that the coaches don't play the games, which is why the cougars have some work to do. It is no summer vaca for them. Hard work and work are on the menu for everyone who wants to see success!!! Coach P has made that very clear! I am pumped for the season and would like all of you to come out and see us in action!

Go Cougars
[/shadow]


Remember. MacMurray is IBC from Illinois.  McMurry is ASC from Texas.  ;)
Sorry!
Yes, Vanna.  I would like to buy a vowel.  Give me an "a".  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: not_in_myhouse on May 06, 2007, 04:40:41 PM
I know this is old but I just happened to glance back a few pages and realize that MAC's own former players were talking trash on this up and coming team. Like I said I know this is old but I wanna get this off my chest so everyone can read this...I'll start with u Anthony B, I really dont know u that well but I'm sure u were good when u were at MAC. Next is Larry P. Bro realize Scotty was and always has been better than u...WE ALL KNOW IT. No more trash talkin. Yes u were hella good tho. Last, Pete...or should I say catch 22. U of all people I am disappointed in. Many looked up to u. I was one of em'. Then I read on this damn message board all the crap u been sayin. Was all that really necessary??? Man, that's stupid!!! I can't believe u would say something like that. U know I was gonna come on here and bash the hell outta u but I'm not gonna go to ur level. But I guess I already did by making a stupid name and coming on this board. Just know its wrong what u did and I no longer look up to u. And this team at MAC is going to accomplish something u never did...AND I HOPE u will be there to see it....OH and this isnt spuhler!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 07, 2007, 07:59:16 AM
Ralph Turner:
   I thought 7400West ment MacMurray but just spelled it in-correctly.
   That seems to happen with some regularity on this forum.
   You are correct in your call.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2007, 09:37:30 AM
Yeah, I can understand familiarity and jargon, but there are about five pairs of schools in D3 in which precision is crucial.

Bridgewater College VA and Bridgewater State Massachusetts
Wheaton College IL and Wheaton Massachusetts
Clarke College IA and Clark Massachusetts
MacMurray IL and McMurry TX
D3 Newbury Massachusetts and D2 Newberry SC

We have not even started on the Concordia's and the Johnson and Wales'.   :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on May 07, 2007, 12:18:37 PM
Quote from: New Tradition on May 04, 2007, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on May 03, 2007, 09:13:07 AM
I can only remember one truely good/great transfer in my time there and he was an OLB from NIU who worked hard and had a good ethic...playing next to Lenny Radke he didn't get much press but he was solid.

Don't forget about Tyke...


I did...my fault...I felt like he wasn't a transfer for whatever reason...he just came in with the awesome work ethic and his brother and father allready being staples of NCC he just never really had a "transfer" feeling to him, but he did indeed transfer from Indiana
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 07, 2007, 04:59:36 PM
Haha, yeah there are alot of Concordias out there

Concordia St. Paul, Minnesota - D-II
Concordia Bronxville, New York - D-II
Concordia Chicago, Illinois - D-III
Concordia Mequon, Wisconsin - D-III
Concordia Austin, Texas - D-III
Concordia Seward, Nebraska - NAIA
Concordia Irvine, California - NAIA
Concordia Ann Arbor, Michigan - NAIA
Concordia Portland, Oregon - NAIA
Concordia Selma, Alabama - USCAA

Also you can't forget Concordia Moorehead - D-III, though they have no affiliation with any of the other Concordias or the Concordia University system.

Yeah, could get confusing with 10 Concordias around the nation, but in the same good to see that many as well.

COUGARS!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on May 08, 2007, 10:01:24 AM
AU had three NIU transfers in 2000-01.  All three graduated, all three were solid players, not one was an all-american.  They were good players with huge frames.  We had better/ more productive players who were smaller/quicker.  They were great guys, good players. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on May 08, 2007, 04:17:37 PM
My frehsman year at NCC I think AU had a transfer RB from Northwestern, we played against him in a JV game and he completly ran over one of our DE/OLB's, but he was taken out pretty quick.  AU let thier varsity play for a bit because of 9/11 postponing or canceling the first game or something.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on May 09, 2007, 07:44:04 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on May 07, 2007, 04:59:36 PM
Haha, yeah there are alot of Concordias out there

Concordia St. Paul, Minnesota - D-II
Concordia Bronxville, New York - D-II
Concordia Chicago, Illinois - D-III
Concordia Mequon, Wisconsin - D-III
Concordia Austin, Texas - D-III
Concordia Seward, Nebraska - NAIA
Concordia Irvine, California - NAIA
Concordia Ann Arbor, Michigan - NAIA
Concordia Portland, Oregon - NAIA
Concordia Selma, Alabama - USCAA

Also you can't forget Concordia Moorehead - D-III, though they have no affiliation with any of the other Concordias or the Concordia University system.

Yeah, could get confusing with 10 Concordias around the nation, but in the same good to see that many as well.

COUGARS!!!!

Don't forget the one in Canada!!! They can drink on their campus unlike all the other Concordia's if I am not mistaken!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_7_seven on May 10, 2007, 09:12:27 PM
As a former Mac player from the mid 90's it shames me to read some of the posts and bashing that former players are doing.  Football is the ultimate team sport and to be worried about ind records is a joke.  Yes, I agree it sucks what the AD did by not giving those who earned their 4 yr letters the due repect they deserve.  I played on some real sh** teams, but we never complained and whinned like some on this board are doing.  I only saw 2 games this yr (Rockford & Lakeland) what I saw was horrible play.  A change had to be made with the coach the team looked like 22 individuals only worried about themselves.  Mac did the right thing by letting McCray go.  Now it's time to put your support behind the new coach and future players and hope they get back to the glory of the late 90's and early 2000's. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on May 10, 2007, 09:20:20 PM
mac_7_seven:  Did Coach McCray coach at Mac during their so-called glory years?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 12, 2007, 09:03:29 AM
Quote from: catch22 on May 10, 2007, 09:20:20 PM
mac_7_seven:  Did Coach McCray coach at Mac during their so-called glory years?

  Can you clarify what you ment by, " their so called glory years" ? 
    Plus a time frame. 
   Coach McCray was at Mac . Hired by HC Frey as the O line coach and took over as HC when Frey moved on to greener pastures ( so he thought) at
  Tri- State. 
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_7_seven on May 12, 2007, 10:22:19 AM
yes McCray was there in the the glory yrs.  Some coachs are excellant position coach others are excellant cordinators and others are excellant HC. He may have been and from what i am told was a good pos & cord coach.  All I'm saying is he was not a good HC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 14, 2007, 03:58:07 AM
Quote from: mac_7_seven on May 12, 2007, 10:22:19 AM
yes McCray was there in the the glory yrs.  Some coachs are excellant position coach others are excellant cordinators and others are excellant HC. He may have been and from what i am told was a good pos & cord coach.  All I'm saying is he was not a good HC.

Not to mention that recruiting wasnt one of his strong points.  I agree though, he was a decent position coach though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on May 14, 2007, 05:28:31 PM
I noticed Benedictine is advertising 4 part time assistant coaches and 1 full time assistant coach/recruiter for next year.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on May 14, 2007, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on May 14, 2007, 05:28:31 PM
I noticed Benedictine is advertising 4 part time assistant coaches and 1 full time assistant coach/recruiter for next year.



I hear former Glenbard West head coach, John Karpowicz, has signed on to the Benedictine program.  Nice catch for Cooper.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Titanwatcher on May 14, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on May 14, 2007, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on May 14, 2007, 05:28:31 PM
I noticed Benedictine is advertising 4 part time assistant coaches and 1 full time assistant coach/recruiter for next year.



I hear former Glenbard West head coach, John Karpowicz, has signed on to the Benedictine program.  Nice catch for Cooper.
Montini Lover
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on May 14, 2007, 10:25:23 PM
Quote from: Titanwatcher on May 14, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on May 14, 2007, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on May 14, 2007, 05:28:31 PM
I noticed Benedictine is advertising 4 part time assistant coaches and 1 full time assistant coach/recruiter for next year.



I hear former Glenbard West head coach, John Karpowicz, has signed on to the Benedictine program.  Nice catch for Cooper.
Montini Lover

Got me, even over here in this room!  And that's SEMI-Montini lover!  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Titanwatcher on May 14, 2007, 10:32:20 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on May 14, 2007, 10:25:23 PM
Quote from: Titanwatcher on May 14, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on May 14, 2007, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on May 14, 2007, 05:28:31 PM
I noticed Benedictine is advertising 4 part time assistant coaches and 1 full time assistant coach/recruiter for next year.



I hear former Glenbard West head coach, John Karpowicz, has signed on to the Benedictine program.  Nice catch for Cooper.


Montini Lover

Got me, even over here in this room!  And that's SEMI-Montini lover!  :)
I have heard good things about coach K, but I here he lost the team last year when he took that Montini run away and put him as starting QB. his performancejust made it worse
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 16, 2007, 11:07:03 AM
Heard about some Wisconsin prep players headed this conference's direction: 

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=603775

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=606363
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on May 17, 2007, 12:29:00 PM
How are things looking for each team over the summer???
Anyone have any important information or updates on teams and players? I believe that there will be a huge fight for those top 3 places in conference. No more just Mequon, Lakeland, AU, and Greenville. So far from the messages here on the board, I guess you can count out MacMurray and the Red Devils...are there ever any supporters on here from Eureka?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 17, 2007, 05:26:19 PM
I havent seen many from Eureka on here either.  Maybe the internet hasn't made it out there yet........OHHHH, I am mean.

If the guy who catches the ball in the trailer park after a PAT is on here how about hearing from you?

They have a sweet hanging box scoreboard in their gym though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on May 21, 2007, 02:45:39 PM
Be nice baseman, They are just old fashioned.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Twisted2 on May 22, 2007, 09:57:04 AM
Jeremy Benson got signed by Buffalo's Euro team.  Pete Schmitt is my cousin.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on May 22, 2007, 04:08:23 PM
boring :-\
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cougarqb4 on May 22, 2007, 08:17:55 PM
well since this board is called boring marcus let me brighten it up for u....
GO COUGARS!!!   8)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 24, 2007, 08:16:44 AM
 I see were UW-whitewater is going to play Lakeland on Sept 1st, 2007.
   When they lasted played (2006) UW-W beat LC 75-14. That`s is correct,
   75-14! 
  That`s when LC had all those studs or as Maddog called them, NFL types.
   If i`m not mistaken, Maddog did say or imply, that if it hadn`t rained, LC
   might have even won that game. 
   I know your out there Maddog,  how bout your "spin" on how LC keeps
   the score ......close.   ;D
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 24, 2007, 05:16:31 PM
Don't forget 2005 when Lakeland lost to Whitewater 73-12.....

Which I guess shows the weakness of the conference, since they were the best the IBC had to offer that year and still got spanked (49-22) by Augustana in the first round.

Yeah, who the crap is Pete Schmitt?

And why do we care if he is your cousin??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 24, 2007, 05:37:48 PM
Pete Schmitt is on the front page -- one of the guys that the Washington Redskins signed. An All-American TE from UW-Whitewater.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 25, 2007, 09:18:35 AM
OHHHHHHHH

Thanks Pat

Small school TEs usually fair pretty well in the NFL don't they??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on May 25, 2007, 04:01:20 PM
Well, I only said this board is boring because there is no updates on any team, even after spring ball. I know some people kept up on their teams. ANYTHING...ANYTHING at all??? Injuries, players getting better....recruiting? ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 25, 2007, 09:29:18 PM
Well Marcus you tell us,

How is everything looking in Cougar land??

No doubt there will be HUGE improvement from last year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Titanwatcher on May 26, 2007, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on May 25, 2007, 09:29:18 PM
Well Marcus you tell us,

How is everything looking in Cougar land??

No doubt there will be HUGE improvement from last year.

No reason to wonder why yo have negative karma
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on May 26, 2007, 10:48:23 PM
I'll tell ya this much key loses will most likely hut cuw....IMO
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 27, 2007, 03:09:42 PM
Titanwatcher-

Why would saying CUC will have huge improvement over last year give me negative Karma?  That makes no sense to me.

Who are the key players CUW is losing?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on May 29, 2007, 11:33:06 AM
"I'll tell ya this much key loses will most likely hut cuw... IMO"

Fatal,  I am going on a limb and believe that wasn't Apple Juice in your glass when you typed this.  ??? :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on May 30, 2007, 04:14:17 PM
Hey IBFC posters, who do you think will be up there with CUW this year?  I would think CUW and Lakeland would be near the top 2 slots, but who else do you feel has a good shot to win the final IBFC trophy?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 31, 2007, 11:14:22 AM
Quote from: 79jaybird on May 30, 2007, 04:14:17 PM
Hey IBFC posters, who do you think will be up there with CUW this year?  I would think CUW and Lakeland would be near the top 2 slots, but who else do you feel has a good shot to win the final IBFC trophy?

   There is no..............Trophy awarded in the IBFC but i know what you mean.   
     lakeland (Baby Cheese heads) had their day in the sun. This year
     Greenville gets the "W" against them.  You heard me MadDog!
    MacMurray has no direction. 
    Eureka: Will try  as they always do but they don`t have enough talent.
    BU : Has turned the corner but not enough to get the "trophy."
    CU-W : You like them so maybe they will end up on top.
   Aurora: They always have good players so they could be in the mix.
   CU-C: They should be better than last year and that`s an improvement.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 31, 2007, 08:03:35 PM
I played the past four years...the past two was an obvious greenville rise in power....

I could see CUW and Greenville battling it out...Greenville has the edge with players having played and they seem to have that "Heart" peope always talk about...which could push them ahead..

I believe CUW is still the most talented team in the conference...the problem is that talent has been playing behind seniors...so they are very unproven...

A player to watch...Taylor Siolka...6'1 220...had the best spring ball at cuw ..plays like collier, maybe a touch slower but stronger...could drop down to TE if needed and can anchor the tightend wing surface... but has great hands and body positioning on jump balls...CUW will not lose the big plays in the passing game with Siolka and guys like rick levy and kevin barret
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on June 01, 2007, 10:30:55 AM
Yeah, I think between Greenville and CUW this year for the "title"

Greenville has been the most improved the past few years.

Next year.......COUGARS!!!!!  of course
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on June 01, 2007, 02:56:08 PM
I take it nobody heard about Zeck from Lakeland. He was signed bye an Arena league team. He was currently playing for the Rock River Raptors in Rockford. I hope he does well at his new team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on June 01, 2007, 09:38:22 PM
Anyone hear anything about Lakeland's coach taking a job as a coach at Whitewater?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on June 05, 2007, 12:23:08 AM
79, Don't be worryin' about me, and you know what I meant......My perdiction is as before and AU will be battling for that top spot, because lets face it AU battles for that spot every year......AU is always in the mix
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on June 05, 2007, 02:42:32 AM
Quote from: fishguy on June 01, 2007, 09:38:22 PM
Anyone hear anything about Lakeland's coach taking a job as a coach at Whitewater?

Zebrowski resigned today from Lakeland.

http://www.lakeland.edu/AboutUs/news.asp?article=3384 (http://www.lakeland.edu/AboutUs/news.asp?article=3384)

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on June 05, 2007, 08:56:37 AM
Quote from: Big_Uns on June 05, 2007, 02:42:32 AM
Quote from: fishguy on June 01, 2007, 09:38:22 PM
Anyone hear anything about Lakeland's coach taking a job as a coach at Whitewater?

Zebrowski resigned today from Lakeland.

http://www.lakeland.edu/AboutUs/news.asp?article=3384 (http://www.lakeland.edu/AboutUs/news.asp?article=3384)



   Big_Uns:
       Thanks for the up-date. 
          Their coach and players (and they had some good ones) had a good run but now it`s...........over. You hear me MadDog? Over!
        Somebody better check on MadDog as you know what a ..."Homer" he
       is!  Don`t want him to stick his head into a plastic bag when he
       finds out Coach is flying the coop. Besides, who would do his "All
      MadDog team?"  ;D
       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on June 05, 2007, 10:52:32 AM
Quote from: Big_Uns on June 05, 2007, 02:42:32 AM
Quote from: fishguy on June 01, 2007, 09:38:22 PM
Anyone hear anything about Lakeland's coach taking a job as a coach at Whitewater?

Zebrowski resigned today from Lakeland.

http://www.lakeland.edu/AboutUs/news.asp?article=3384 (http://www.lakeland.edu/AboutUs/news.asp?article=3384)




Can you blame the guy?  The conference is about to become history.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Falcon77 on June 05, 2007, 01:04:20 PM
Any news about the new field at CUW? I heard they were supposed to break ground May 1st.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3-NCAA on June 08, 2007, 12:24:14 AM
Lakeland will fight and beat ass regardless who's coach...Bring it on and let's make the Conf. Championship up for grabs...Lakeland has more incentive than ever with Coach Zebrowki leaving and thinking of that makes that extra sprint or through up that weight much easier...Lakeland isn't losing many on defense besides a safety and a defensive end, and the offense is rebuliding too, lotta young talent ready step and block their ass off for Wilk and the running backs..Don't forget about MAC WHITE and Calhoun...Zebrowski gone doesnt change much because we'll bust our asses for any coach that steps in and we will always fight for the Warriors next to us...Everyone in Conf....bring your best cuz when you play Lakeland you might face allot of ruthless crazy ass men who would love for nothing more for you to be on the ground in pain....WE"RE FEARLESS AT LAKELAND!!! BRING IT!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on June 08, 2007, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: D3-NCAA on June 08, 2007, 12:24:14 AM
Lakeland will fight and beat ass regardless who's coach...Bring it on and let's make the Conf. Championship up for grabs...Lakeland has more incentive than ever with Coach Zebrowki leaving and thinking of that makes that extra sprint or through up that weight much easier...Lakeland isn't losing many on defense besides a safety and a defensive end, and the offense is rebuliding too, lotta young talent ready step and block their ass off for Wilk and the running backs..Don't forget about MAC WHITE and Calhoun...Zebrowski gone doesnt change much because we'll bust our asses for any coach that steps in and we will always fight for the Warriors next to us...Everyone in Conf....bring your best cuz when you play Lakeland you might face allot of ruthless crazy ass men who would love for nothing more for you to be on the ground in pain....WE"RE FEARLESS AT LAKELAND!!! BRING IT!!!

Someone took their steroids before typing on their computer. Hopefully he didnt get mad at the keyboard and break it over his leg or toss his monitor out the window...

ROOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDD RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAGGGGGGGGEEEEE

scary, scary man.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3-NCAA on June 08, 2007, 01:18:28 PM
MUHAHA....ITS CREATINE!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on June 08, 2007, 02:21:21 PM
1. Your an Idiot

2. Lakeland was done before Z left

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 08, 2007, 02:36:07 PM
Quote from: neweraibfc on June 08, 2007, 02:21:21 PM
1. Your an Idiot

2. Lakeland was done before Z left
Welcome to the message boards, neweraibfc.

We will see how the NAthCon fares after the IBFC fades away.

Among peer institutions, Lakeland should bounce back.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on June 08, 2007, 03:33:24 PM
indeed we will, thanks for the welcome
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3-NCAA on June 08, 2007, 03:46:10 PM
hey neweraibfc, so lakeland was done before z left huh??? really?? have u been at out spring ball or seen the guys in the weight room? we got allot of hungry "go gettas" drooling at the mouth to get a shot at such a sweet talker like u....and i'm not an idiot....just UNSTABLE!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on June 08, 2007, 09:48:39 PM
I think you can say that about all the teams at every level. Every team is hungry right now with the lifting, running and the spring ball when that was around. I know that every off season with every college team, if they didn't win the conference or win the championship then they didn't reach any goals. Now I know that Lakeland is more determined than any other team right now but come on any team will say that Mr. UNSTABLE, you know I hope you can control yourself other wise you might get flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct, You can model yourself after the linebacker from mac, number 9
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 08, 2007, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: neweraibfc on June 08, 2007, 02:21:21 PM
1. Your an Idiot

People who call other people idiots should make sure they can spell "you're" correctly.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on June 08, 2007, 11:31:56 PM
my bad, I didn't know we had spelling and grammar checks...

The lakeland thing was out of line, admitted. 

For real though, i'm just trying to get a little interest here...how are summer workouts going?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 08, 2007, 11:48:44 PM
Usually don't, but if you call someone an idiot, it's best not to act like one yourself.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on June 09, 2007, 07:17:56 AM
Quote from: neweraibfc on June 08, 2007, 11:31:56 PM
my bad, I didn't know we had spelling and grammar checks...

The lakeland thing was out of line, admitted. 

For real though, i'm just trying to get a little interest here...how are summer workouts going?

   Controlled enthusiasm is welcomed.  As far as ......spelling and grammar
    checks go. If you leave it on the table, somebody will pounce on it.
  Welcome to the forum. Remember, facts  are the staple of truth.
    Opinions and B-S  are always debatable.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on June 09, 2007, 12:30:31 PM
I guess we figured out where Lakeland gets their dirty play from.  If everyone on Lakeland is "unstable" like Mr. D3-NCAA then it explains alot.

I still think Lakeland finishes 3rd or 4th in the conference this year or worse.  Definately behind CUW, Greenville and Aurora for sure.  But who knows who else is lurking in the depths of the conference to take them out as well. 

I guess we will just have to see, summer will be over before you know it and camp will begin.  There will be many surprises this year....mark it down.......


COUGARS!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan413 on June 10, 2007, 09:59:57 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on June 09, 2007, 07:17:56 AM
 Controlled enthusiasm is welcomed.  As far as ......spelling and grammar
    checks go. If you leave it on the table, somebody will pounce on it.
  Welcome to the forum. Remember, facts  are the staple of truth.
    Opinions and B-S  are always debatable.
   

This quote should be a manditory, "must read," for every newbie who comes on the boards!  +karma for you. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on June 11, 2007, 11:49:48 AM
Quote from: D3-NCAA on June 08, 2007, 01:18:28 PM
MUHAHA....ITS CREATINE!!!

I didn't know creatine made people unstable...wierd, steroids do though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE on June 12, 2007, 07:49:36 PM
Any word on the Lakeland Head Coach search?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on June 13, 2007, 10:59:53 AM
Let's get some names on this board. Who, at any position is looking like an outstanding player or players for each team? Don't just start naming WR, RB and QB...I am talking about all positions, lets get some opinions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on June 13, 2007, 01:48:50 PM
Yeah "Coach Z" kinda made it rough there uhhhh.......i think that moves lakeland down a few pegs just because I dont think whoever will replace him will do as good of a job, Its possible but as a first year coach I doubt he will
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on June 13, 2007, 03:02:24 PM
Coach Z made Lakeland who they were and when he was there, thats all Lakeland talked about. Lakeland will still be a good team but they will not be who they were with Coach Z. I agree with Fatal as this does bring Lakeland down a few pegs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on June 13, 2007, 04:57:56 PM
I think it will depend on what the school does.  Will they hire from within? Will they keep the O and D coordinators. Was Coach Z the play caller?   Answer those questions and we'll have a better idea what the possible let down will be. Lakeland has some players, we know this, but being familiar with a system, muscle memory, and repitiion.  A new system is going to mess with that.

Lakeland can still be a dangerous team, we will see how the administration and the players react to the change.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on June 13, 2007, 05:54:10 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on June 13, 2007, 04:57:56 PM
I think it will depend on what the school does.  Will they hire from within? Will they keep the O and D coordinators. Was Coach Z the play caller?   Answer those questions and we'll have a better idea what the possible let down will be. Lakeland has some players, we know this, but being familiar with a system, muscle memory, and repitiion.  A new system is going to mess with that.

Lakeland can still be a dangerous team, we will see how the administration and the players react to the change.



Lakeland has nothing to hire from within from... about 2 months before this basically the other 2 full time coaches on the coaching staff accepted job offers from else where. Leaving basically only coach Z and a graduate assistant coach left on the football coaching staff, it was a joke among many of the football players that they only had a coaching staff of 2 when normally they have around 7-11coaches. Now if I am correct they are down to 0 unless you count the graduate assistant coach. Who I doubt is still there or even in contentsion for the job.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on June 13, 2007, 07:24:02 PM
So, Lakeland is down to a grad assistant for the off-season right now? That is no good news at all, especially since it is the summer and these guys are going to have to adjust to a whole new offense and defense or am I reading this last post wrong? Yeah, Lakeland has some good guys on the team but you cant even take a bunch of guys and expect them to learn an offense in now..ummm, less than 2 months and counting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on June 13, 2007, 08:14:54 PM
That is correct marcus. Lakeland has at best 1 coach on staff right now and that is a assistant graduate coach. Unless Coach Z hired someone recently before he left. Middle of April the defensive coordinator and assistant head coach both took jobs else where. Which put lakeland down to 1 head coach a assistant graduate coach and a defensive backs coach who future was uncertain because of family issues. Eaither way this leave lakeland starting all over and with 2month to go it will be very hard to get a coaching staff in place to win.

I will give lakeland this tho, from what I seen they do have a good amount of talent left and should not be overlooked. I still believe they finish top 3 in the conferance.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan413 on June 14, 2007, 08:14:47 AM
Quote from: madfrog on June 13, 2007, 08:14:54 PM
That is correct marcus. Lakeland has at best 1 coach on staff right now and that is a assistant graduate coach. Unless Coach Z hired someone recently before he left. Middle of April the defensive coordinator and assistant head coach both took jobs else where. Which put lakeland down to 1 head coach a assistant graduate coach and a defensive backs coach who future was uncertain because of family issues. Eaither way this leave lakeland starting all over and with 2month to go it will be very hard to get a coaching staff in place to win.

I will give lakeland this tho, from what I seen they do have a good amount of talent left and should not be overlooked. I still believe they finish top 3 in the conferance.

This was painful to read.  Replacing an entire coaching staff in this time frame is a massive feat.  But it could be a terrific opportunity for some young and talented coaches to get a shot earlier than the normal career path usually allows. My sincere best wishes to the Lakeland program and players. Their attitude will be crucial to minimizing the damage. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on June 14, 2007, 10:13:33 AM
Given the above statements, this is going to be a bad situation for Lakeland.  I guess the head coach is doing what is best for him, but you would think there would have been some attempt to keep other coaches around or someone to promote from within.  To leave with 2 months to go is not the classiest thing I've seen.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on June 14, 2007, 01:16:57 PM
Given the team and the coaching staff.....doing something not classy is expected.......Coach Z effectively screwed the muskies
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on June 14, 2007, 04:55:09 PM
Best of luck to Coach Z.........He was the only thing from lakeland that i liked and he definitley will have success anywhere he goes as a coach or as an individual!!! If your reading this Coach....Good Luck and I personally Wish you the best!!!     ;)

As for the stuff about me being dirty....i cant stand when people who dont knwo me as an indivdual or as a player form there opinions off of what they might of heard or seen from there point of view!!! I will say that i player every game like my last and i played with a competitive edge every time i steped on the field!!! I would appreciate if peopel would stop taking hacks at me bc quite frankley....You all dont know me and where i come from!!!!! Just know i was considered by coaches as a 1st team all conference linebacker 2 straight years.....everything after that is all irrelevant!!!! So....ONCE AGAIN....Please leave myself out of conversation....my playing days are over!!! SORRY!!!!  :-*

As for MAC.....Good luck to you all!!! ATWAN JONES IS GOING TO BE A BEAST NEXT YEAR!!! I left school late and i saw him still there lifting his butt off so watch out for him!!!   :)

Good luck to all though, in the conference!! You all send this conference out with a BANG!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 14, 2007, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on June 14, 2007, 01:16:57 PM
Coach Z effectively screwed the muskies

Ehh, I don't know about that. He gave Lakeland four years. Took them from 20-20 the previous four seasons to 28-13 in his tenure.

And this shouldn't be a surprise. He was on the American Football Monthly hot coaches list in '05, etc.

I think that's a little Aurora-biased spin there -- not buying it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on June 14, 2007, 08:23:21 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 14, 2007, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on June 14, 2007, 01:16:57 PM
Coach Z effectively screwed the muskies

Ehh, I don't know about that. He gave Lakeland four years. Took them from 20-20 the previous four seasons to 28-13 in his tenure.

And this shouldn't be a surprise. He was on the American Football Monthly hot coaches list in '05, etc.

I think that's a little Aurora-biased spin there -- not buying it.

I gotta agree with the fact that this is a guy who was going to get lured away from Lakeland, I'm not trying to put them (Lakeland) down, but Whitewater is definetly on a different level and it could be a stepping stone for him to a better job.  I see it as a slightly upward/slightly lateral move.  He's at a better place, but not the top guy.

I feel bad for the school...how do you let your entire staff get snatched away?  Thats rough on a program that was doing well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on June 14, 2007, 10:06:07 PM
Well, there were many rumors from within the program for a very long time that Coach Z and the other coaches were all looking and trying to get out of Lakeland.  I hardly doubt 1 player on the team is surpised by his move or any of the other coaches.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on June 18, 2007, 11:11:54 AM
 Got this information from the College Football Data warehouse site.
   Only looked at a few schools but found it interesting none the less.
   The data is about wins,losses,winning percentages, how long the school has been playing football, etc.  Listed in no order I might add.
   (1) MacMurray: 1985-2008
      88 wins   60 losses
      winning percentage....0.595
   (2) Aurora: 1913-2006
        77 wins  70 losses
      winning percentage...0.523
   (3)  Con Wis: 1970-2006
        105 wins  51 posses
      winning percentage...0.671
    (4)  BU: 1942-2006
        68 wins   110 losses
       Winning percentage...0.385

    Any comments??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on June 19, 2007, 05:01:16 PM
I'd say that if BU was a single baseball player, it's batting average would be decent.  They seem to be on the right track to turning things around up there, but it's going to take a long curve to catch up to the others. 

Who's ready for some football?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on June 19, 2007, 10:33:16 PM
I would have to say that these win loss don't surprise me at all. I mean how can you not expect CUW to be the team, they are strong and have put up good showings. I also find that Mac's record is shocking, I did not think that they would have that good of a record and I went to their sight and found out that they have had good teams in the past even though they have played some lower teams. I would love to know the rest of the conference. And who is the best out there among the teams?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on June 20, 2007, 09:45:08 AM
In many ways Benedictine is in the same situation as North Park is in our conference.  They have brought in a good coach who has the right vision, they have started to attract players and recruit more suitable figures,  however, they are 2-3 steps behind the rest of the pack in their conference.  The 2-3 steps behind is not necessarily their fault, just the realities with the nature of the sport. 
I think BU will be much better this year and be competitive in most games.  There are a few schools which might get the better of them, however the Eagles should be able to hang with most of the IBFC Teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on June 21, 2007, 04:05:38 PM
Please keep Coach Bob Conwell's family in your thoughts and prayers.  Coach Conwell passed away On June 20th.  I am not sure about what happened for sure, but I am assuming he was still battling a liver disease that nearly took his life two summers ago.  Coach Conwell was a great guy, one of the nicest guys I have ever met.  He will definately be missed!



A couple of "Bobism's".......

"Let's get out of Dodge."
"You gotta."
"Are they good? Yeah....Are they great? No."


Anybody else with any more "Bobism's" I would love to hear them and I know there are other people on here that would love to hear them too.  Once again, please keep his family in your prayers.  RIP Coach Conwell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on June 21, 2007, 09:51:59 PM
RIP Bob Conwell, you were not only a great person but a wonderful coach. You brought many smiles to Concordia's football team as the defensive coordinator and as the head coach. You will always be remembered here at CUC. Benedictine, sorry for your losses as you guys lost a great coach as well.

please keep the Conwell family in your prayers...

one "Bobism" I always ran into was the the shoulder shrug while saying, "well, you gotta be." and he always wore the jogging suits. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on June 22, 2007, 09:41:27 AM
I had a chance to speak with Coach Conwell on numerous occasions.  He was a courageous, fearless man who did not let his illness stop him from doing what he loved to do in life.  Peace to Bob and condolences and prayers to his family and friends.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on June 23, 2007, 12:47:11 PM
I also had a chance to speak once or twice with coach Conwell. He always had good advice and you know what really set him aside from most coaches, From what I could tell, was that he cared for all his players, he never really had favorites. And he always loved when football season was around and you could tell that he was a little down when the season ended, I hope that they dedicate that field to him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on June 25, 2007, 10:48:53 AM
Which field?  Coach Conwell was a coach at Carthage, Concordia (IL), and Benedictine.  He was a great man that touched many lives.
On this note, I was looking for his obituary in the newspapers this weekend and couldn't find it.  Anybody know which day/which paper I could find his obit?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on June 25, 2007, 02:24:07 PM
I believe that Concordia Chicago is the one that should do so. Again this is just an opinion.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on June 25, 2007, 02:26:16 PM
An obituary has been posted on the CCIW board.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on June 25, 2007, 05:06:54 PM
Well it would have to be CUC or Benedictine, because Carthage is already named Art Keller Field after their legendary coach in the 60's/70's.  IMO, if you had to pick CUC or Ben I would agree with Team/Respect that the Cougars' field should be named. 
Perhaps  Conwell Cougar Athletic Field ?? :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on June 27, 2007, 01:52:22 PM
That name sounds great. Fits really well together. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on June 28, 2007, 07:01:49 PM
There are two things....1.) It would be a nice deal to name Concordia's Field after Coach Conwell just because he was such an inspiring guy to his players here at CUC and cared for them so much. 2.) I doubt that they do name the field after Coach Conwell because he was fired by whoever here at CUC.
If it were up to the players, it might be done in a heartbeat because the team only has a few select guys who are playing out their last year on the team, all the other guys are alumni 1-3 years already. Since it is up to the school it will never happen because...well, he was fired and probably disliked by some. I don't understand how a guy like Coach Conwell was disliked but sometimes the school wants to go one direction and the Coach wants to go another and that doesn't fly well with some.

I would however, like to see it named after him since he was a great guy and coach. I played for Coach Conwell and never once had a problem with the guy. It was a good time to sit in his office and chat with him for an hour or so, much laughter came from that office. ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on June 29, 2007, 01:49:20 PM
You know Marcus you have a great point. The administration was probably upset because of the win loss ratio.

But what the administration doesn't realize is that he was a coach who could help his players with other problems in their life. I know he gave me some great advice and I was not a player.

It just goes to show you that good coaches like that are hard to find and that they are a dieing breed.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on June 30, 2007, 11:53:52 PM
I heared a rumor that the new head coach for lakeland college will be the offensive coordinator from Aurora last season. Dont quote me on that just what I heared and I know many palyers from Lakeland. I have seen nothing offical yet.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 02, 2007, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: madfrog on June 30, 2007, 11:53:52 PM
I heared a rumor that the new head coach for lakeland college will be the offensive coordinator from Aurora last season. Dont quote me on that just what I heared and I know many palyers from Lakeland. I have seen nothing offical yet.

Madfrog:
      Put a name to that"rumor." Kevin Doherty. 
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BigtenBadger2006 on July 02, 2007, 11:30:05 AM
Lawrence hired Lakeland's offensive coordinator in the offseason. Can any fans tell me what to expect as far as formations and tendencies?

Looking at their stats, it looks like they ran the option, as their QB has a lot of carries. Does anyone recall if it was a spread shotgun option or old school out of the I  or maybe a double wing type like Augies?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on July 02, 2007, 04:07:14 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on July 02, 2007, 08:18:04 AM
Quote from: madfrog on June 30, 2007, 11:53:52 PM
I heared a rumor that the new head coach for lakeland college will be the offensive coordinator from Aurora last season. Dont quote me on that just what I heared and I know many palyers from Lakeland. I have seen nothing offical yet.

Madfrog:
      Put a name to that"rumor." Kevin Doherty. 
     

http://www.lakeland.edu/AboutUs/news.asp?article=3470
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 03, 2007, 12:35:31 PM
Congrats to Kevin Doherty
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 03, 2007, 02:12:41 PM
Fishguy:
    Nothing like up to the minute news ref: new head FC at Lakeland. Good
   Job.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on July 04, 2007, 03:17:18 PM
BigtenBadger2006

Lakeland was a zone and power o team. They ran a little speed option but not much. QB rushing comes from bootlegs and scrambles.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on July 04, 2007, 03:37:53 PM
Hey, IBC guys:

Just curious, but do any of you know how many candidates applied for the Lakeland job and who/where from?  It is always interesting to see what kind of interest a small college job generates.  For example, Alma College's basketball coach just left for an assistant coaching position at U of Missouri-Kansas City (he was a DI assistant coach at Texas and Florida before the Alma job).  It will be interesting to see how many and who apply for the Alma bb job - that program is a tough sell for some reason(s) and it has been difficult for the past 2-3 head coaches despite their hard efforts.  Anyway, was just wondering if anyone knew about what transpired in the Lakeland search process.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: blb on July 05, 2007, 09:35:44 AM
According to a post on footballscoop.com's message board, there were 75 applicants for the Lakeland position.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: not_in_myhouse on July 06, 2007, 10:34:18 AM
I'm throwing this out there but I believe MacMurray College and the new coach will surprise this conference. I'm picking them to win the conference championship
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on July 06, 2007, 12:19:07 PM
not_in_myhouse,

just because it is summer and you are home that doesn't mean that you should stop taking your medicine. You know how delusional you can get when you don't take it regularly.

the school is in barely open, the coaches are just getting hired, and from what i hear some of the more talented players are no longer there. The coach maybe really good but it will take time to turn that around.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on July 06, 2007, 01:11:57 PM
Yeah I agree Genius,

That's a pretty big prediction you got there not_in_myhouse.  I believe MAC will go 0-10 this year and get waxed by both Benedictine and CUC.  They will give Eureka a game but still fall short.

Not looking good over there for the future.  They just need to tear that campus down and build a waterpark or something, the place is a dump......no offense though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 06, 2007, 05:39:18 PM
"The place is a dump... no offense though"
Baseman201  McMurray  and the town of Jacksonville are not "dumps".  Just because the Highlander athletic teams are not that successful doesn't mean they are dumps.  There have been some very famous and influential alums that have got their start in the halls of MacMurray, so I think to just call them "dumps"  is rather shallow.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 06, 2007, 05:43:01 PM
Early Predictions for IBFC

1. Concordia, WI  Champs until someone knocks them off.
2. Benedictine - sleeper
3. Aurora - They could end up winning the title this year
4. Greenville - Got better, but lost their best player #25, and there defense was average
5. Concordia, IL - will not surprise me if they finish in the top three
6. Lakeland - too much to overcome, head coach left late. 3-7 finish at best
7. Eureka - they will win one conference game
8. MacMurray - I do not think there is anything to say, that has not been said.

Baseman I have to agree with you about MacMurray, but I think they will go 1-9, they have Blackburn for the last game of the year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on July 07, 2007, 01:18:56 AM
Ahhh, ok 1-9, I didn't realize they played blackburn

Does craphole work better Jaybird???

And even if MAC would go 10-0 the place is still the same, the success of a team doesn't change the physical surroundings.

Saying "a place isn't a dump because some influental people got their start there" makes no sense.  Reagan came from Eureka and the only thing good about that place is the box scoreboard in the gym.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 07, 2007, 08:08:57 AM
Catch22: Your "Predictions" are duly noted. 
     
baseman201:  Sounds like you know a thing or two about Jacksonville and or MacMurray.
  About Blackburn, don`t be to quick to concede the win To Mac.
  I`d say the game will be a toss -up. 
 

not_in_myhouse: You said," I`m picking them( MacMurray) to win the Conference Championship."
  As that is so intellectually penetrating,  maybe you can elaborate on how/why you came to that possible conclusion.   ???   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 07, 2007, 10:35:11 AM
I was not implying that just because some famous people attending MacMurray, qualifies it as a dump/not a dump.  I was implying that many famous people thought high enough of the college to invest 4 years of their lives at that insitution.  Obviously, they did not think the place is/was a dump.
I have been to MacMurray 2-3 times and did not think the college and town of Jacksonville were dumps.  Rural, one horse towns yes- but not dumps.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 07, 2007, 11:08:43 AM
Gomer,

Do you any predictions for incoming season? Last year of the Illini-Badger Conference? Who will win it?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on July 07, 2007, 11:37:03 AM
The way I see the IBFC's final year winding up is this
1) Concordia WI 
2) Aurora
3) Benedictine
4) Lakeland
5) Greenville
6) Concordia
7/8 Eureka or MacMurray

Interesting matchup when Concordia WI  faces off against North Central in the rematch from last year's playoffs. We will get a chance to see if both teams are as good (or better) than last year's group.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: illinihscoach05 on July 07, 2007, 12:12:31 PM
Mac will always beat Blackburn - they get better players from Florida usually, Chicago area, and from programs up north in Illinois.  Blackburn on the other hand usually relies on players from smaller programs in the central and southern regions of Illinois and thus are seldom competitive.  Blackburn has only beaten Mac once, in 1995 with the best team that Blackburn ever had.  That was also the year Blackburn defeated Illinois College for the only victory in that series.  For all their hype from this new coach, who came from Oregon and has NOT impressed many coaches in central and other regions of Illinois (making RECRUITING PITCHES at clinics that he was supposed to be talking about techniques etc. to HS coaches in the area).  I have heard about their recruiting class for this fall.  Not really impressive!  Mac wins this game by 2 - 3 TD's and I feel will win some others as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 07, 2007, 12:38:45 PM
79jaybird:  You said in part,"Rural one horse towns yes-but not dumps."
    Your observation is on the record.   
    Looks like you and baseman201 do agree on some things.
   
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2007, 12:44:29 PM
illinihscoach, you are already on the record as not liking this guy. Perhaps you were passed over for the job? You seem a little bitter.

Quote from: illinihscoach05 on May 13, 2006, 01:45:29 PM
Nice article about the new "savior" at Blackburn - guy lost his job because a bunch of players at Lewis & Clark in Oregon quit and the Prez cut the program in MID-SEASON (yes-MID SEASON) then told this so called "guru" to take a hike!  Now he is going to be the guy to rebuild a "struggling" Blackburn program.  Yeah right!  The idiot president at what many around here call "Dumb-burn" and the "Bumblin'Beavers" hires this guy who thinks he is some kind of god in the coaching profession without checking up on him - check out the AD she hired too.  What a mess!

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 07, 2007, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: catch22 on July 07, 2007, 11:08:43 AM
Gomer,

Do you any predictions for incoming season? Last year of the Illini-Badger Conference? Who will win it?

like I said, yours is sound. I `ll wait a bit till there is more information to
   be had before I weigh in.
   Last year was a good one for some of the "also" rans in the IBC.
    A little bit of parity and this final year could be interesting.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 07, 2007, 01:49:30 PM
illinihscoach:
    Mac, on average, over the past 5 years has beaten Blackburn by the
    score of 36-11. 
    Plus Blackburn only has an enrollment of about 585 as shown on the D-3 site.  Small school, as I`m sure you are aware of.
    You said in part," Mac will always beat Blackburn,"  As the facts tend to
    back you up,  your pick for this year of winning by 14-21 points seems
    safe.   
    As bad as Mac has been the last few years beating Blackburn this year
   may well be their only win. Maybe. Not much to be said about that. 
    One last thought. When they (Mac) move to their new conference, I
      truly believe the other schools will treat them  like the proverbial rented
     mule.
     
         
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on July 07, 2007, 02:49:57 PM
See Jaybird, we agree more then you would like to think.

Thank you Gomer.

I predict CUW winning it this year, though I have this feeling that Greenville has a great shot.  But like most teams in the past, the first round is as far as any team from the IBC will go....unfortunately.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2007, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on July 07, 2007, 01:49:30 PM
    One last thought. When they (Mac) move to their new conference, I
      truly believe the other schools will treat them  like the proverbial rented
     mule.

The SLIAC? I think you overestimate the SLIAC. Remember, Principia and Eureka will be in that league.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 07, 2007, 03:27:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2007, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on July 07, 2007, 01:49:30 PM
    One last thought. When they (Mac) move to their new conference, I
      truly believe the other schools will treat them  like the proverbial rented
     mule.

The SLIAC? I think you overestimate the SLIAC. Remember, Principia and Eureka will be in that league.

    My bad.  Eureka has given Mac some good tussels over time 
    but the ending is always the same.........They get the "L."
    Principia gets "E" for effort.  Can`t think of anything else.
    I still think Mac gets treated like a rented mule.
     Slow day Pat?     ;D
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Titanwatcher on July 07, 2007, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2007, 12:44:29 PM
illinihscoach, you are already on the record as not liking this guy. Perhaps you were passed over for the job? You seem a little bitter.

Quote from: illinihscoach05 on May 13, 2006, 01:45:29 PM
Nice article about the new "savior" at Blackburn - guy lost his job because a bunch of players at Lewis & Clark in Oregon quit and the Prez cut the program in MID-SEASON (yes-MID SEASON) then told this so called "guru" to take a hike!  Now he is going to be the guy to rebuild a "struggling" Blackburn program.  Yeah right!  The idiot president at what many around here call "Dumb-burn" and the "Bumblin'Beavers" hires this guy who thinks he is some kind of god in the coaching profession without checking up on him - check out the AD she hired too.  What a mess!

Am I the only one who wants to know what Pat does?

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: raiderguy on July 07, 2007, 06:19:11 PM
Just a shout out for Illini-Badger Conference hitting page 200. Congratulations.

Would Lakeland be a favorite to win the conference this year if Coach Z was still there? They will sure have a test again this year with WW as the opener.  

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2007, 07:01:56 PM
I tend to remember posters who rag on coaches from Maryland to Oregon.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 07, 2007, 07:13:11 PM
I am new to the IBFC board but somewhat familiar with the conference. The last year should be a good race. Here is an attempt for an ousider on the finish for the last IBFC season.

1-CUW- Should not run the table. QB a question.
2-Greenville- Defense lost great LB. Offense should make up for that .
3-Benedictine-Much improved Offensively, and solid on Defense.
4- Tie;  Aurora- Strong Defense. QB a big question.
           Lakeland- Solid QB, return 16 starters,. Transition the big question.
6-CUC- Good returning skill folks. D-line and O-line Question.
7-Eureka- Should win one.
8- MacMurray- Big hole to dig out. Lost players and Transition to new staff.

By looking at the schedule the champion could be detern=mined by 2nd. week in Oct. IMO.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 08, 2007, 07:45:19 AM
Old40:
    Welcome aboard.
      You stepped up to the plate with some opinions and some material
     for the posters to have a go at. 
    The IBFC may be out the way out (figure of speach) but this season
     could be one to remember. 
    I`m thinking one maybe two of the teams that get beat up every season
    will shock people. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 08, 2007, 08:20:59 AM
raiderguy:
     Would Lakeland be a favorite to win the conference if coach Z were still in charge? 
     " Lakeland has NFL type players!" That comment is attributed to  one of Lakelands biggest fans............Maddog,AKA....Mel Allen. Course he was talking about some of the good teams from the recent past. 
    Maddog is one of those guys who is great for this forum and LC.
    Come to think of it , haven`t heard from him in awhile. He must be
    still  getting settled in at the home.
    Ok, back on point. Lakeland will NOT win the conference even if Coach Z
     where there. 
     The reason he won was because he had the studs!  Now, the studs
      have left the barn.  The barn is empty (no offense ment) and so are the
      chances of a championship. IMO>
     
     200th page+...................finally, in the big time.
   
   
   
     
     
       
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on July 09, 2007, 05:18:19 PM
Now I don't think it is fair to pick on MacMurray for the campus and the city they are in. Yes the campus is not to nice and the city is so so. But what does that matter, does a beautiful campus mean that you are a winning program. I beleive when MacMurray was winning they had a "older" campus. Two conference championships in the IBFC and however many in the SLIAC.

Also how many programs do you know of that do spectacular when a brand new coach comes in a new system and players that leave because they know that they will not be able to handle criticism and won't be able to handle doing there work.

From what I have heard is that some MacMurray players left because they could get away with poor academics with the old coach, with this new coach he is big on the academics. Which is the most important thing in college, because how many d3 football players are going to go on and play football and make enough money doing so to support them?

I am willing to bet that MacMurray loses games next year, but they will do so as a team. Without all of the fighting and yelling and trashtalking, they will be a tighter unit from what I have heard, they may win the conference and they may not. But one thing is for sure they will be a team and play for each other and not themselves.

And tell me this gentleman is that what not football is all about? playing as a team? 11 men on the field working towards one common goal.

I know if i was a coach and my team lost because because they were beat by a better team but my team put forth the effort to not give up and played like champions, then I would be happy. But if my team gave up and played like Mac has in the past then I would be ashamed to associate with them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 09, 2007, 07:46:29 PM
Team/Respect:

You sound like a loser, "Its not fair picking on MacMurray" Life is not fair, now get off your fat ass and get in the weight room and go do some wind sprints. Then maybe you will get some respect, remember nobody cares about MacMurray.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Titanwatcher on July 09, 2007, 09:07:48 PM
Quote from: team/respect on July 09, 2007, 05:18:19 PM
Now I don't think it is fair to pick on MacMurray for the campus and the city they are in. Yes the campus is not to nice and the city is so so. But what does that matter, does a beautiful campus mean that you are a winning program. I beleive when MacMurray was winning they had a "older" campus. Two conference championships in the IBFC and however many in the SLIAC.

Also how many programs do you know of that do spectacular when a brand new coach comes in a new system and players that leave because they know that they will not be able to handle criticism and won't be able to handle doing there work.

From what I have heard is that some MacMurray players left because they could get away with poor academics with the old coach, with this new coach he is big on the academics. Which is the most important thing in college, because how many d3 football players are going to go on and play football and make enough money doing so to support them?

I am willing to bet that MacMurray loses games next year, but they will do so as a team. Without all of the fighting and yelling and trashtalking, they will be a tighter unit from what I have heard, they may win the conference and they may not. But one thing is for sure they will be a team and play for each other and not themselves.

And tell me this gentleman is that what not football is all about? playing as a team? 11 men on the field working towards one common goal.

I know if i was a coach and my team lost because because they were beat by a better team but my team put forth the effort to not give up and played like champions, then I would be happy. But if my team gave up and played like Mac has in the past then I would be ashamed to associate with them.

classy,well thought out response. i could'nt agree with you more. keep up the good posts
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on July 09, 2007, 10:22:48 PM
WOW catch22 you sound angry, its funny because I do not play anymore but I did go to MacMurray. I mean its okay if you went there and never played or maybe you did and just were bitter. I know lifes not fair I lost my father at a very early age and then my mother my senior year of highschool. So dont come at me and tell me to dont cry and get running. I will have you know I weigh 184 and I am in great physical health. I am  a physical trainner so I know how to take care of myself. It is ok if you are heavy I could work with you and we could get your weight down and then you can feel better about yourself then you wont have to post such mean and hateful things that you think about yourself and you want to tell someone else.

I hold no grudges ever because holding a grudge in life is pointless and you never know when you are going to die so live life as a happy individual.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 09, 2007, 11:06:09 PM
team/respect or should I say azz lover 5069 or David Rucker when did you get down to 184 pounds. I just seen you two months ago and you still look like the same David 5 feet tall and 5 feet wide maybe 384 pounds not 184, So get your fat ass off the couch, put the cheetos down and go run some wind sprints :) Win conference this year. I am pulling for you, I just want you guys to stop whining, last year was last year and move forward, good luck  for 07 season. You go getta.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: timbo on July 09, 2007, 11:07:18 PM
Hey team/respect-- I think you are on the right track with the right attitude!  It's not the buildings you remember, it's the people and the experiences you had.

If you are right, and the new coach at Mac is stressing academics, he's doing his players a favor.  Sure, everybody wants to win every game, but not very many do.  College sports is about relationships and teamwork.  It has been proven time and again that a group of athletes playing as a team is a more formidable opponent than great athletes playing for themselves. 

Usually it's the individuals who are more concerned about recognition for themselves rather than the team that end up unhappy, no matter how good they are.  They never get enough recognition. 

Michael Smith made a great statement a few years ago when he retired from the Vikings at the peak of his career.  He said something to the effect, "football is what I do, not who I am."

Catch 22 is right when he says "life is not fair."  Sometimes it's not.  But there's no point in sitting around and bitching and moaning about it.  Get on with it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: team/respect on July 09, 2007, 11:21:22 PM
You sound like a complete pussy, and loser.  You should just stay off d3football.com, you make yourself sound bad, the team, and your faggot ass coach.  Dude get a life, MacMurray College is closing down after this school year, get a clue, your  female AD left after one day on the job, because she realize it is a **** hole, and your new football coach, it would not have matter if you brought NFL coaches in, the team sucks, and you guys are a bunch of losers, team/respect my ass, you guys are d3 athletes who did not give a **** about school either, because Coach McCray preach to you pussies all the time about going to class, record for 07 0-10 you will get beat by an average score of 40 points, go play intramurals, you ****ing faggot.

Catch 22

This is what he wrote to my buddies email.


Its funny you think that I am but im not its cool. You should not make fun of him just because I am using his email. Yes he is a friend but this is not him. I feel sorry you feel that way about him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 09, 2007, 11:35:54 PM
WOW catch 22 hows it going, I love it that you think my friend is me. Its cool yes I hope mac does well but I am done with football. And if you want to talk sh#t to me then call me and talk to me like a man. I have no beef with any of the ex players of mac. I didnt prefer the company of some but i never hated them. I could care less what you think of me. I am more mature than you are, and if this is pete then wow you are a sorry little man. I hope you have a good life and if you and me ever meet again i will say high to you and I will be a nice person. I have never done anything that hurt you. I dont know why you would have a grudge against me. I am in my last year of college not holding onto dreams of a ring yes it would have been nice to win one but i didnt ohwell im over it and now i want to coach so have fun pete or whoever you are. I hope you realize you are an azz hole that has no life just living in the past memories of college football MOVE ON!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 09, 2007, 11:55:10 PM
Oh come on -- you can't be serious. You delete one profile and start another and you don't think we all see?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on July 10, 2007, 03:49:29 AM
catch22,

What is it with the mac supports to be delusional. They must have some good herb in jacksonville.

CUC in the top three. They won 2 games (eureka and blackburn). 2 closest losses was by 2 scores. all other losses by 3tds or more. They are getting better but be serious.

GC-u had a good game against them but you have to realize they were never in danger of losing that game. You guys kept running the ball at the end of the half and in the 4th quater down multiple tds. Your coaches wasn't if trying to win the game by letting the clock run. GC wins but u get stats. Which one is better?  2 years in a row CUW had to comeback in the 4th qtr to win. And they haven't had a rushing TD in 2 years on GC. If there is anyone who can take them down it is GC. I do agree that it is a huge lost #25.

Lakeland- they have good players. Good players w/ new coaches beats bad players with a verteran staff. They have the most talented team returning. They will compete for the title.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 10, 2007, 12:35:23 PM
Pat its ok if you dont believe me. I dont care if nobody believes me. My best friend from here used that name and he used my email. I said it was ok and I dont care we both wrote those posts but it was him. He thought he could be funny saying he went there. But i could care less and yes i did delete it because he didnt want to post anymore if it ment I was going to get attacked.

I made my name and now I can put what I really think.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 10, 2007, 01:09:55 PM
And why are we focused on me all of a sudden football camps are alittle over a month away from starting. Do they not start August 12? If so I can not wait for the season to start and see Mount Union win it all again.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 10, 2007, 01:33:36 PM
Welcome, drucker.  I like the transparency.  +1.

We look forward to good informative posting coming from you.  Conscientious fans who post with integrity are always welcome.  I wish the best for MacMurray.  I was unable to find endowment or budget data, nor data from the Accreditation, but the surface appearance looks like the school has a long hard road ahead of it.

I hope that the school can rebuild its athletic department.

The MacMurray Tennis program got the first ever NCAA D-III Death Penalty (http://chronicle.com/weekly/v51/i37/37a03301.htm) in 2005.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 10, 2007, 02:58:43 PM
Ralph Turner:
    The tennis Program fiasco and the NCAA "Got-cha Moment" at MacMurray College is old news but still worth noting. So was the speed at which the "in-fraction" was removed from their web-site. one nano second.
    They`ve lost/fired/didn`t re-new contracts on a lot of people(coaches,AD,etc) in the Athletic Dept. of late plus their choice of SID`s,
   the ones responsible for all  stats, records and other information, has been a failure . Kind of looks like they (SID`s) can`t multi-task.
   Bottom line is the players who attend/attended MacMurray, over the past several years have been short-changed on a lot of issues.
   There is hope however as MacMurray now has a new President.
   We can only hope she`s a sports fan and under her watch these kind of
   non-performing personnel will be weeded out!
     
       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reddevilpride on July 10, 2007, 03:36:45 PM
First, I hope that everyone is having an excellent summer, and I cannot wait for the upcoming season.  Next, I would like to stand up for all of the past and present Eureka college players.   Eureka is a place where any young man who has the heart and desire to play college football will have their chance.  Furthermore, up until these last two seasons it has always been a program which has been very competitive w/the other IBFC teams (1999 Aurora 17- 16 Aurora gets a phantom pass interference call on 4th down to keep their final drive alive, 2002 MacMurray 7-0 Eureka had a TD robbed from them which would have given them a chance to win the game, CUW 2004 7-6).  However, with numbers down the last two years it has been difficult for them to compete.   Consequently, I believe that this is the year they return to that competitive status.  I saw them play towards the end of the year last year, 19 of their 22 starters were Freshman, Sophomores, and they had a freshman QB who is quite possibly going to be a break out star.   Now before all you naysayers go and get your feathers ruffled. I am not saying Eureka is going to win a conference championship, but look out for them to surprise a team or two next year.   Lastly, as a comment I heard Dan Sullivan is on the hot seat @ Eureka; has anyone else heard the same?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 10, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
Eureka has played some teams very tough and has gotten beaten bad out by others. If they can get numbers and some athletes, then they can be up to the task of knocking someone off. I think Coach Sullivan needs 5 years to see if the numbers can get to near 100 players with good athletes especially in the skill positions. The administration needs to be very supportative in these next two years. I  hope in this, the last year of the IBFC some good things happen in Eureka, CUC and MacMurray.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 10, 2007, 04:51:49 PM
Ya pat Mac is in for a long road. Its going to be tough for them. They will play to their ability and who knows upsets do happen.

And the old AD left to a better job for I believe it was ASU, better pay and thats where he is from so who wouldnt take the position. And the SID was fired, he was the baseball coach, now there was a rumor on campus tha the had gone $10,000 over budget. I dont know if this was true or not but Mac is wanting the coaches to teach and I dont know if he had his masters degree.

So Mac is going to be at the bottom but hopefully they suprise a lot of teams, maybe finshing with a winning record. I just know that I will be there for every home game to cheer them on, and try to get to a few away games. I will always cheer for mac even when im on my death bed.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 11, 2007, 08:07:12 AM
Reddevilpride:
     Eureka is the one of the smallest if not the smallest college playing
     football in D-3. listed enrollment of 498.
     While they show up every game day and play to their collective talent
     and it has been noted," on occasion surprise people." The fact remains
      Eureka is 14-66 over-all since 1999.
      School size, helps..  or hunts in Eureka`s case. IMO.
     I`ve always respected the players at Eureka for their tenacity and
     "Dam(N) the torpedo`s, full speed" ahead approach to the game of 
     football.
      Sorry to say they just don`t have the over-all talent to be successful
       on a regular basis.
     As you point out the returning players show promise.  Eureka has
        pretty much been a step-child in the IBC , I hope your right.
      Her`s a prediction,  Eureka adds to MacMurray`s woes and gets     
      the "W."
      Good luck to the Red Devils.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 11, 2007, 10:56:46 AM
So you all think Mac will only get one win this year? I dont see that happening, I see two-three wins. I will be hoping for more but isnt it always that when a new coach comes in the team takes a few years to get back on track. I know there are the occassions. But I am hoping these seniors do some good because they came in almost conference champs their freshman year. Would have happened if the fullback wouldnt have fumbled in the endzone. So I would like to seee them go out with a good season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 12, 2007, 11:17:47 AM
David Rucker; who was on that team when they almost won conference?
Pleas refresh my memory! What year were you talking about.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 12, 2007, 12:25:41 PM
Rrucker:
   You said in part,"...............they came in almost conference champs their freshman year." Talking about this years seniors....2007.
   So the guys you are talking about were freshman in 2004.
   MacMurray that year(2004) was 7-3 over-all and 4-3 in conference.
   Mac came in 4th in conference  in 2004.
   4th is not "almost conference champs" as stated by you.
   If you miss spoke that happens. If you still think they (Mac)  were almost
   conference champs in 2004 please explain how you came to that 
    conclusion. 
  You`ll find "facts" carry all the weight on this forum. Conjecture, is always good fill in but crumbles  when going head to head with .........facts.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 12, 2007, 12:27:43 PM
That would have been Anthony B. senior year. Coach Rogers last year.

Chris flaggs Waterstraat those guys were freshman that year.

Remember at CUW when cooper fumbled in the endzone or at the 1 yard line. That was the year we almost won the conference becaus we lost to AU LC CUW 7-3.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 12, 2007, 12:29:58 PM
Sorry I know if we would have beaten CUW and lost the other two we would have had the best overall conference record and won the title. There was a three way tie for first place. If Mac had one that game or one against the other two then Mac would have been champs. But we didnt ohwell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 12, 2007, 01:03:35 PM
Quote from: drucker on July 12, 2007, 12:29:58 PM
Sorry I know if we would have beaten CUW and lost the other two we would have had the best overall conference record and won the title. There was a three way tie for first place. If Mac had one that game or one against the other two then Mac would have been champs. But we didnt ohwell.

  I see where your coming from but let me add this.
   Mac beats Con,W  leaving them both at 5-2
   LC  is still 6-1 as is Aurora.
   So,  It looks like this: 
            LC......6-1
      Aurora......6-1
        Mac........5-2
       Con W....5-2 
  looks to me like 3rd place now instead of 4th.
  If you work enough combinations/ possible out comes, you can say what you did.  That`s what I mean about conjecture. In your case/ rational
     Mac lost by a nose but in real time they (Mac) were not good against the top 3 that year.  Hence 4-3 in conference play.
    Although the game against Con,W  was a duzzy. #10(Ballerino) had 3 TD`s and kept Mac in the running but the "O" line that year stunk up the place. AS they did all year. 
   I might add that Ballerino was selected for the "Team of the Week" in
    Div-3( that`s about 220 teams total) for his supper game against a really good Con,W team.
   Sounds like you go to Mac..........enjoy your time.
   
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 12, 2007, 02:43:17 PM
Your right I dont remember how it would have worked out, it was a long time ago.

I also would like to say that the O-line was not that bad, I think Pete almost racked up 1500 rushing yards, I think he was a few short. I dont consider that a terrible oline. Yes pete ran hard and was an amazing back but also the line had to give him some of those holes. Now it wasnt the line that ballinger and lee ran behind but Pete is now the all time leading rusher at mac. With terrible lineman blocking for him? I guess pete just ran for all those yards with no help.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on July 12, 2007, 02:55:42 PM
Reddevilpride,

I agree that Eureka is getting better. Looks like they turned over the staff so I don't know if that is good or bad. Their QB is the best young qb in the league. He can run and pass. that have some decent RBs but they had a huge loss with #34 graduating. Also, they have the slowest defense in the conference with a Nose tackle at middle LB. They won't stop many people until they get more athletic on defense.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 12, 2007, 03:53:41 PM
I have been reading through some predictions of what is going to happen this upcoming fall and I don't understand why everyone thinks BU is going to be such a great team. At best, they are a mediocre team with a lot to do still. Isn't BU still young and how did their recruiting go this year?

Is there anyone on this forum that knows much about the program and what they have been doing in the offseason because as far as I see it I do not see them being in the the top 3-4 teams. Their offense is simple to figure out by using power and play action most of the time. Their defense is average. I don't see them beating Aurora or CUW and being in a dogfight with GC, Lakeland and CUC. :o

Also, I have respect for Eureka because those guys do come out and bust their ass all the time...there seems to be some personel problems on the defensive side of the ball and they have a very weak and very slow defensive line. Only time will tell come August-November....predictions are predictions and everyone has their own and I am definately not trying to bash anyones predictions, just looking for answers. And for one of my last predictions, CUW will not be champions in the last year of the IBFC ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 12, 2007, 05:28:37 PM
Marcus;

I picked Benedictine 3 is my pre-season poll based on the fact that their QB was young last year and had some talent espeially on the perimeter in the option game and a fair passer. Their defense was not bad, lack some speed, but a good overall scheme. They were mostly young and the years experience will help them. I understand they will have close to 60 Frosh this year with some transfers coming in also, but sometimes they are not the real deals. I think the league in the final year will be a dog fight and any of the top 5 teams I had, could win it. Everyone wants to win the last league title. CUW will not be as strong overall this year,IMO but will be strong enough tobe hard to beat, especially if their QB has a good year. I think Greenville, Lakeland and Aurora will also be in the thick of it. IMO, I also think someone will pull 1-2 upsets over the previous top teams in the league. The Last year will bring some suprises.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reddevilpride on July 12, 2007, 05:35:50 PM
Quote from: Genius on July 12, 2007, 02:55:42 PM
Reddevilpride,

I agree that Eureka is getting better. Looks like they turned over the staff so I don't know if that is good or bad. Their QB is the best young qb in the league. He can run and pass. that have some decent RBs but they had a huge loss with #34 graduating. Also, they have the slowest defense in the conference with a Nose tackle at middle LB. They won't stop many people until they get more athletic on defense.

I agree w/the fact that Eureka needs to shore up the defensive side of the ball.  Last year they just had an inability to stop anyone (pass or run)!  If they could some how find a way to put their offense on a short field good things could happen.  However, w/your comment about #34, Eureka has two good rb's that did not get a ton of carries last year because of Mehlberg.  Justin Dempsey will fill Mehlberg's shoes, and not lose a step.   I do not know much about the staff changes, but losing a whole staff can never really indicate good things can it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on July 12, 2007, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: old 40 on July 12, 2007, 05:28:37 PM
Marcus;

I picked Benedictine 3 is my pre-season poll based on the fact that their QB was young last year and had some talent espeially on the perimeter in the option game and a fair passer. Their defense was not bad, lack some speed, but a good overall scheme. They were mostly young and the years experience will help them. I understand they will have close to 60 Frosh this year with some transfers coming in also, but sometimes they are not the real deals. I think the league in the final year will be a dog fight and any of the top 5 teams I had, could win it. Everyone wants to win the last league title. CUW will not be as strong overall this year,IMO but will be strong enough tobe hard to beat, especially if their QB has a good year. I think Greenville, Lakeland and Aurora will also be in the thick of it. IMO, I also think someone will pull 1-2 upsets over the previous top teams in the league. The Last year will bring some suprises.

That sounds about accurate, they should have around 110 men on the roster this year, including a couple of transfers from larger schools.  Time will tell if the transfers pan out, and the number of athletes they lose to attrition, but it should be an exciting year for BU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on July 13, 2007, 12:52:19 AM
what year is benedictines qb.  other than the reports on eureka and benedictine, how are some of the other school doin so far this summer.  only about three more weeks until camp.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 13, 2007, 08:23:56 AM
Drucker:
    Pete was "The Man" as far as running backs while he was at Mac and maybe the best over-all in the IBFC during that time frame. IMO.
    Contrary to to your take on the Past "O" lines at Mac I`ll stick with my comments .
    Mac, the last few years hasn`t had a "O" line worth it`s salt.
    If stats were available for the last 4 years you`d see the yds per offensive play would back that up.
    As far  Pete goes,most of his yardage,he got pretty much on his own.
    Back groung facts not available due to a particular SID trashing the
   football athletic site.   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 13, 2007, 08:56:36 AM
Drucker:
    If you still think your "O" line was good here are a couple of facts to savor.
    Just checked the Mac Stat page. They list over-all stats up to Oct of 2006.
    Remember they still had a game or two to still play but here it is July 13th 2007 and that`s all they`ve got.  Remember what I said about the SID.
   Anyway, The average per "rush" was ..........2 yards per carry! That tells me the "O" line must have gotten in somebodies way once in a while.
   Total offense: average per play................3.3 yards.  Maybe coach put in fresh bodies.
    As I said earlier, I`m not bashing/or taking you to tash but rather pointing out that ....................facts carry the day not conjecture.
   If you want to talk.....would-a. could-a, should-a, we were robber.
    Then wait for Maddog. Great guy. Good friend but the biggest "homer"
     there is. ;D
    Glad your on board.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on July 13, 2007, 02:40:10 PM
3 more weeks....

It's go time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 13, 2007, 02:56:41 PM
Old 40,
Thanks for the explanation...its always good to see back-up and you gave good back-up.

As for 110 men taking the field for the Eagles, the number is just insane but by the end of that summer camp you always got the quitters and the guys who are on the team that just can't play.

I would also like to know how certain teams are doing....hows Lakeland doing with all the crap happening there?

CUC has picked up some big recruits for the O and D line and look to make improvements throughout both....they also have some higher level players coming in, including a running back from a D-1 AA school in South Carolina and possibly a running back from Northern Illinois who was All-State from his high school days at Mt. Carmel. Things are looking up and ready to go at CUC and a lot of the players have been busting their a$$es looking forward to this fall. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 13, 2007, 03:54:37 PM
I know that the oline has been the weakest point of mac for the past few years. And pete did do a lot of amazing things while at running back. It was a good time to watch pete do his thing, he was a very physical runner, and took a beating at running back.

Also the oline did a decent job at blocking, I know because I was on the oline, i never started, but i was there. And it was dissapointing to see that group try hard and yet still come up short.

And this past season was a struggle for the oline because of injury and starting freshman with no college experience, but they all came through and helped pete become the all time leading rusher, it was a tough season but worth it when you get someone in the record books.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 13, 2007, 04:36:01 PM
Marcus;

Good points on CUC. They will need line help based on last season. It sounds like they are building a good foundation for the future. Improvement each year will put them in a good position in the new Conference. They have some good skill kids, QB and receivers. I don't think Mac or Eureka can beat them this year and they will likely surprise a few of the other teams. Depth and O/D line will be their big question marks.

One of the Lakeland GA's said that the new staff is moving in the right direction. Lost only 1-2 players from last season to state schools. Very Athletic Frosh group coming in. Big QB and Big receivers. Only time will tell. Their non-conference schedule is a killer.

Gomer;

Your points on Mac are very right on. I hope this new staff will be able to salvage something this year. IMO, the school is in a negative transition that spells trouble. The facts, I believe,are  they have lost talent, New staff, poor school admin support and a brutal season opener. I hope they survive.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 14, 2007, 12:26:44 PM
I think the offensive line is the most overlooked position in football. You never really hear about outstanding offensive linemen. The one thing I know about the O-line for CUC last year is that they were young and others just weak. THe right side of their line (no offense to the guys) were horribly weak. The tackle weighed in at around 220 and the guard was slow off the ball and could never get to the second level. The center for their line (returning) was the only true college lineman and will hopefully lead them this year. The left side tackle last year was a freshmen and the right side guard was a converted tight end. Now, CUC has also recruited other big guys who can play either side of the ball and it is looking to be a solid year for both lines. Also, with the new addition of BIG CAT WILLIAMS as the assistant offensive line coach since last spring ball should give these guys a big boost and help their playing skills. The quarterback position is looking real good and the backfield is going to be filled with some talent. Defense is going to be key for the Cougars and I think they will handle themselves well with their new defensive coordinator...the other coordinator was a joke, never coached a day of defense in his life before starting at CUC.

Anyone got news on Greenville and their status? What is making them look so tough this season?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 14, 2007, 12:28:55 PM
and honestly I do not know he keeps giving me negative karma but I guess you could keep giving it to me because it seems like no matter what I say thats all I get...even after someone tells me I have good points.

oh well ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: pitbull on July 14, 2007, 02:38:24 PM
Marcus,

I am by no means downplaying the addition of Big Cat to the coaching staff however, he won't be the one suiting up and many times as I can speak from experience many of these former NFL players struggle when it comes to coaching especially at the DIII level. I can tell you hundreds of experiences where these guys just have a hard time to say the least. I would think his assistance would help more from a recruiting stand point than coaching. But its great you have him in your program!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 14, 2007, 03:22:08 PM
Marcus;

I am not giving you negative karma. I just write and post. I must be doing something wrong.

Greenvilles QB is back with some other skill people and I think that is what causing optimism, IMO. Losing the LB and D-lineman from last year will hurt the defense as it is impossible to reload to their caliber.

Bic Cat will help the young kids with technique but can't size,quicness and athletic prowess. At any college level young lineman usually take time to mature and get stronger. CUC is a 5 year project,IMO.

No bad karma Marcus.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 14, 2007, 06:24:37 PM
Old 40,
I know you aren't the one giving me negative karma because you need a certain amount of posts in order to do so but like I said, let the person keep doing it. As long as I could come on here and engage in conversations and find out some daily information, I am satisfied. I know that Big Cat won't help with strength or determination but he surely will help with technique (one of the keys as an o-linemen) and well, recruiting as well (as he already has done).

Just out of curiosity, and I cannot remember the exact year but didn't Jeff Hynes go into Lakeland and turn the program around in 2 years to an undefeated team? ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 14, 2007, 08:24:30 PM
Marcus,

I don't think he had an undefeated team. If you look at the D3 list of schools and click on Lakeland it shows their records for the last 5-7 years. I think Hynes was  there just befor Zembrowski who was their for 4 years. They were fair, Ithink 1 winning season and 2 losing seasons. Don't hold me to that exactly. I am sure some of the fish people are more in tune with the exact info.

Godd point on the fact that Big Cat will help in recruiting. I wonder about the schools stance on the type of students they have to recruit. I think there goal is to develop a link to all the Luthern schools in the USA. I hears this from some you interviewed with Hynes for the head job 2 years ago and he was told that. Not a bad plan. I works for many successful Catholic Vollege programs. It can work there but will take time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 16, 2007, 10:37:50 AM
Oh, okay...I was under the impression that Jeff Hynes took the Muskies to an undefeated season...guess not. Were they conference champions once when Hynes was head coach there?

I think for the most part the recruiting process will always be a tricky thing if you are looking to gather all one category of people. I also think it would be a good idea to recruit MOSTLY Lutheran players but at the same time still look at others. The biggest deal I believe is to recruit players who want to succeed not only on the field but in the classroom as well. I think with Coach Pries as head coach, this will be a successful thing. Most of CUCs team right now is not of the Lutheran faith...believe it or not, I think there are just as much Catholics on the team but that is neither here nor there, in the end they will always be a team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 16, 2007, 10:38:19 AM
haha, check it out...more negative karma :D

real mature.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 16, 2007, 01:45:26 PM
I have a question about this world football team we put togehter.


Who is it made up of? like what levels?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 16, 2007, 03:32:32 PM
QuoteTeam USA is made up of 2006 seniors from Division III, II and I schools.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 16, 2007, 05:56:52 PM

arcus;

I really don't know if they won conference but I do not believe so as those years were Mac and Aurora as champions. Some of the Lakeland people will know for sure.

Checking last years roster they had 10 players from Luthern schools and 6 from Catholic High Schools. I agree with you on recruiting. They better focus on some athletes.

Whats the word at Aurora, CUW and Greenville? Does anyone have any info?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on July 16, 2007, 08:41:41 PM
old 40-

Are you saying that athletes dont come from Lutheran/Catholic schools?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 16, 2007, 10:33:06 PM
Ok thank you pat. I was wondering and now im thinking that since that team is made up of all levels. Would they not  be better than Mount Union? And if so how can people vote to say that MU would win the whole thing? Oh well

It seems that the new season is almost here and I cant wait to see Mac back in action along with the other teams.

Who do you all think is going to be on the 1st team conference and who is going to be the player of the year at each position?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 16, 2007, 10:35:29 PM
I think people are thinking that Mount Union would be better prepared as a team, having played as a team for more than a couple of weeks.

This team was made up of nine from Division III, 10 from Division II and another 20 from various levels of Division I.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 17, 2007, 10:59:52 AM
Guys:
    Lakeland College was un-defeated in conference play in 2005.
    They were  8-3 over-all and 7-0 in the IBFC.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 17, 2007, 11:19:42 AM
  To take the "un-defeated" a step further.
     MacMurray was undefeated in 2002 going 10-0 overall (7-0) in the IBFC
     losing in the play-offs.  In the final seconds!
    Con, Wis  went 10-0 over-all in 2006 (7-0) in the IBFC and lost it`s play-
   off game.   Lost to the team they had beaten earlier in the season.
    Looks like these two teams are the "only" ones to have that distinction
    in the last little while. Undefeated in regular season and conference play.
    Not only do they (both teams) get bragging rights but they also get the
    "ring" that has 10-0 on it. 
    One other note,MacMurray went back to back in the IBFC with 7-0 records. 2001-2002.  (2) rings . 
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 17, 2007, 11:25:26 AM
Marcus Ellwood:
   Karma -30?   I`m thinking sombody put a "curse" on your postings.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on July 17, 2007, 03:35:06 PM
26 days gentleman, who's ready for camp?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on July 17, 2007, 03:59:25 PM
CUW has recruited many players out of Snow College in Utah which is a JC...all of the players in my recollection from that school and/or area have been Mormon...many of the players from Texas and Florida are Baptist/southern Baptist. Many do not have a religious affiliation at all (not saying they don't believe in a divine being or what not)...

So, CUW, even as a religion based school, has a great diversity. It leads to a great academic/social experience. It also, of course, has led to some of the best teams the IBFC has seen in recent times
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on July 17, 2007, 05:57:44 PM
Many small private schools have a tradition in one denominational faith or another (Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist)  Some retain a connection to that religious heritage and other don't activly promote it. 

North Central, IWU, Syracuse, and Duke are are traditionally methodist schools.

The Concordia schools are Cathloic.

Augustana is Lutheran based...

But because these schools may have a heritage in these denominations doesn't mean the student body is predominantly of that background.  Although I live near a Lutheran Seminary and we usually have a group of former Augustana students there at the Seminary.  Many times there are different scholarships based on denominational affiliation.

i.e. I got a Methodist Elder grant to attend NCC because one of my parents is a UMC Elder.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 17, 2007, 10:30:45 PM
You know I bet a while back though that kids did go to college based on the religious affiliation of the college and themselves. I know that i went to mac because it was methodist based and I felt that it could help me better understand the "methodist ways".

But now it really is not a big deal what you follow. catholic methodist, baptist...

I still find it funny though that TV can say damn and b%itch and what not but not God. Its funny, and you see athletes pray or point to him after big things or as a ritual.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 17, 2007, 11:43:01 PM
Cougswillwin;

I replied to Marcus on a question that CUC does recruit the Luthern schools as they should. No mention of the fact that Luthern,Catholic or any private school does not have Athletes. Of course they do. I just made the point that CUC admin. wanted to recruit their fair share of athletes from the Luthern High schools. This was a large discussion point on an interview from one of the candidates, per his comments to me.


Gomer;

Thanks for the update on the undefeated Lakeland team. The previous question from someone to me was if Hynes when coaching was the coach who had an undefeated season. 2005 was Coach Z. Yu may know what Hynes's record was. I sure do not.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on July 18, 2007, 06:00:41 AM
NCC_Alum-

The Concordia schools are Catholic?

Where did you get this information?  All Concordia schools are part of the LCMS system, which is the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, there are no Catholic affiliations at all, all Lutheran based Universities.

The only Concordia not part of the LCMS is Concordia Moorhead, but still Christian based of course.  The 10 other Concordias all Lutheran.

Marcus/Cougswillwin, things looking good in Cougarland?  Can't wait to get to a game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 18, 2007, 07:25:05 AM
 Old 40:
 
    You said in part," Yu may know what Hynes`s record was. I sure do not."
     I`m not sure of the years he was the coach there. If somebody knows for ..."sure"  then we can get the answer.
   
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 18, 2007, 07:59:19 AM
 Old 40:

   Did some research and came up with the following. 

    Football Archives...........2002 Press release......Resignation.
    " Hynes, the 13th head coach in Lakeland history guided the Muskies
      to a 19-22 record during his tenure," Which, I believe, was 4 years.
    He resigned (at Lakeland)  to take the same position( Football Coach) at Concordia U, River Forest. 
     
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on July 18, 2007, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on July 18, 2007, 06:00:41 AM
NCC_Alum-

The Concordia schools are Catholic?

Where did you get this information?  All Concordia schools are part of the LCMS system, which is the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, there are no Catholic affiliations at all, all Lutheran based Universities.

The only Concordia not part of the LCMS is Concordia Moorhead, but still Christian based of course.  The 10 other Concordias all Lutheran.

Marcus/Cougswillwin, things looking good in Cougarland?  Can't wait to get to a game.
Whoops...got two different types mixed up there.  There is another group of schools that are catholic, but the Concordia schools are Lutheran...my mistake.  The St. Joeseph's, Thomas's, John's are all catholic
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 18, 2007, 01:20:50 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on July 17, 2007, 11:25:26 AM
Marcus Ellwood:
   Karma -30?   I`m thinking sombody put a "curse" on your postings.  ;D

I know and at first I didn't really care about it but now it is getting annoying. The person or persons are abusing the system because I haven't said anything negatively and have been having a convo with old 40. I don't know what the deal is but its crap.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 18, 2007, 01:24:40 PM
Thanks Gomer, Great job on the research. This answers Marcus's question on Jeff Hynes record  at Lakeland.

Anyone hear news about Greenville? I think everyone will have to be ready for this outfit this year. If they don't they will get beat by Greenville.  The big question in this years race is, Will anyone run the tables in the last season. I don't think anyone will go undefeated in the IBFC this year the final year. Any opinions?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 18, 2007, 01:26:33 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on July 16, 2007, 10:38:19 AM
haha, check it out...more negative karma :D

real mature.

People tend to "reward" complaints about negative karma with more negative karma.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on July 18, 2007, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on July 18, 2007, 01:20:50 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on July 17, 2007, 11:25:26 AM
Marcus Ellwood:
   Karma -30?   I`m thinking sombody put a "curse" on your postings.  ;D

I know and at first I didn't really care about it but now it is getting annoying. The person or persons are abusing the system because I haven't said anything negatively and have been having a convo with old 40. I don't know what the deal is but its crap.

Don't feel too bad...

Touchdown Tommie from the MIAA board in the west region has a -850 karma, but I'm pretty sure thats a running gag on the MIAA board.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 18, 2007, 03:02:28 PM
Greenville:
     Had a great year in 2006. Finished 2nd over-all and tied for 2nd in the IBFC.
    If all goes well they will have their QB back who will be a Jr this fall.
    Seems like he does more damage with his legs than arm as he has a
    4+ yard rushing  avg.  Journey-man QB, IMO but gets the job done.
    Their  top RB was a senior so he`s gone. Plus their most productive
    receiver was also a senior and he`s gone as well. 
    Looking at the 2006 stats these are the guys that did the most damage for Greenville. Not that there weren`t others but these(3)  were leaders
    in their categories.
    Was 2006 an anomaly for Greenville where for a change, they had the horses to run with the big boys and almost got the flag to the top of the hill or will they  revert back to the Greenville of old and slowly fade to a level more becoming to their talent level?
  If they can re-tool  with equal talent can they again seriously challenge
   for the title?   Opinions??
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 18, 2007, 04:49:17 PM
Gomer;

Good points on Greenville. IMO their Offense despite the loss of key vets will be OK but their defense also took a big hit in loss personnel, great LB gone, not likely to replace with someone who is as good. I also heard the have a RB that will be good coming in. I think they can surprise people if they are not ready for them. Depth may also be a factor for them on Defense.

Does anyone know if any of the conference schools got Football facility upgrades from last year? IMO, some need major upgrades. Also are any of the schools going to the NAC going to schedule any of the SLIAC teams as non-conference games for the future? IMO there were some rivalries like Mac and Aurora (They have had some good spirited games in the past), I hope they continue to play.



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Goal Line Stand on July 19, 2007, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on July 18, 2007, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on July 18, 2007, 01:20:50 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on July 17, 2007, 11:25:26 AM
Marcus Ellwood:
   Karma -30?   I`m thinking sombody put a "curse" on your postings.  ;D

I know and at first I didn't really care about it but now it is getting annoying. The person or persons are abusing the system because I haven't said anything negatively and have been having a convo with old 40. I don't know what the deal is but its crap.

Don't feel too bad...

Touchdown Tommie from the MIAA board in the west region has a -850 karma, but I'm pretty sure thats a running gag on the MIAA board.

Yup, they tried to keep him at -666 and were successful for a while but they couldn't sustain it and gave up!   ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 09:01:47 AM
Old 40:
      If Greenville can continue to improve their football program (getting
      better players as that`s the only way they are going to challenge for anything. Then last year will not have been a one and done kind of thing.
     One thing about D-3 football, you never know for "sure" who`s  on the roster till  the coach starts counting heads at the start of camp.
     If your a follower of Greenville football then future comments  about their  program are always welcomed. 
     As far as MacMurray and Aurora goes, in the past (2001-2002) games were power for power as both had great personnel.
     Aurora over the long haul has had the better players. Mac, for a couple
     of years, was the superior team. 
    Aurora will continue to have good teams and MacMurray will become the
     step-child of the SLIAC.  IMO. 
    I say that because I`d don`t believe Mac  (admin.) is fully committed to
     their football program. 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 09:26:21 AM
Maddog Alert:  ???
     Has anyone seen or heard from Maddog?  Next month is the start of football camp and no......Maddog!
     Guys that have been here for awhile know we are missing one  of the
   IBFC`s best  prognosticators!  Oh, and least I forget, one of the biggest
   "HOMERS" to ever grace this forum. ;D   They call him," Mr Lakeland ."
    He is solid in his team/player evaluations plus as a bonus, his year ending. " Maddog Team of the year" is well thought out and the chosen ones giver their "due." 
    Search all broom closets and other out of the way places as Maddog
    could be pulling a Rip Van Winkle.     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 19, 2007, 11:49:06 AM
Come on Gomer its not Macs fault that they are going to be in the SLIAC. I wish they would get into the conference that IC is in. so that way we could play them every year. I think that would be a great way for the two colleges to compete for some of the local kids and help boost the communities involvement with the two colleges.

But Mac is in the SLIAC because of our location and that is close to us and we will have greenville and they have been playing very well over the past two years and that will probably continue into the SLIAC and give mac and the other teams some good competition. Plus isnt the SLIAC going to have some far south schools involved like in alabama or something like that?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 19, 2007, 11:50:32 AM
Gomer;

I not a Greenville fan. I had sons that played and coach  in the league so I follow the teams. Being a retired FB coach you follow all levels of the college game.

You were right on the Mac/ Aurora series. Also the Mac Admin problems will hurt their team.
Who are you picking as your top teams? Any darkhorses?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on July 19, 2007, 11:54:03 AM
I am a Greenville alum and used to work for the Football team as a student manager.  I have kept quiet because I am now living in WA and don't know much about the current team other than what you guys already know, however I should say that on the greenville website, I have seen the list of Greenville Football recruits and so for the fun of it, on my own I have done websearches on them.  I realize on paper it is one thing, and on the collegiate football field it is another thing, but I should say that some of the recruits do look pretty impressive.  Here is one of them, a guy who could possibly step in to replace Bryson Taylor at WR. http://www.democratherald.com/articles/2006/11/16/sports/high_school/4prep01_fred.txt
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 12:18:44 PM
Drucker:
     This is the second time around for MacMurray as far as being in the SLIAC goes. 
     If you check the SLIAC web-site  you`ll find some old stats about Mac
  football teams and how they faired. It wasn`t much of a conference but a conference none the less.
    All other sports(except the tennis team and they got he ax from the NCAA) have been in the SLIAC for quit some time. 
    By going back into the SLIAC with their football program  they now have everything under one roof so to speak.
    Joining their new conferece has cost them a chance at a NCAA play-off spot.... in the short term that is. 
    As far as "who" is now in and will be joining them in their up coming
    conference,  I`ll have to double check. Maybe somebody else has the
    full conferece make-up.
    As far as your ," Come on Gomer" goes.  ;D
   
   
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 12:23:22 PM
gc_fan:
   
     Information is always welcomed.
     If you get more............post it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 19, 2007, 12:25:45 PM
I believe the 2008 SLIAC football lineup is as follows:

Blackburn, Eureka, Greenville, Huntingdon, LaGrange, MacMurray, Principia, Westminster (Mo.)

I believe since only six are full-time members of the conference, the league will have a two-year waiting period and receive an automatic bid in 2010.

If Fontbonne were to somehow start football before then, say in 2009, I believe the league could get the AQ then.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 12:33:55 PM
Old 40:
   The only good thing about being retired is.....................you now get the senior discount.  ;D 
   
   Look forward to your comments through out the season.
   Where did your sons play and when?   In The IBFC? 
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 12:35:48 PM
Pat Coleman:
 
    Thank you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 19, 2007, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 18, 2007, 01:26:33 PM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on July 16, 2007, 10:38:19 AM
haha, check it out...more negative karma :D

real mature.

People tend to "reward" complaints about negative karma with more negative karma.

Well, as I have stated before Pat, thats real mature. It just gets a little ridiculous when I am having a convo with someone and it is interesting, not bashing anyone or any team and I still somehow get negative karma. To top things off your little one liners do no better. Keep adding up the negative karma though, maybe I could match the dude in the MIAA boards, except theirs is all in fun.

So Pat, do you get "rewarded" negative karma if you request negative karma because if thats the case, why don't you throw a few points my way. It would be appreciated...and anyone else as well that can distribute these points, please feel free to take a couple stabs at good ole Marcus Ellwood!!! :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 19, 2007, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: old 40 on July 18, 2007, 04:49:17 PM
Gomer;

Good points on Greenville. IMO their Offense despite the loss of key vets will be OK but their defense also took a big hit in loss personnel, great LB gone, not likely to replace with someone who is as good. I also heard the have a RB that will be good coming in. I think they can surprise people if they are not ready for them. Depth may also be a factor for them on Defense.

Does anyone know if any of the conference schools got Football facility upgrades from last year? IMO, some need major upgrades. Also are any of the schools going to the NAC going to schedule any of the SLIAC teams as non-conference games for the future? IMO there were some rivalries like Mac and Aurora (They have had some good spirited games in the past), I hope they continue to play.




CUC received all new weight lifting equipment for their weightroom and from what I hear, it is very nice stuff. Also, the supposed rumor is that they will be tearing down the Geisman Gym and rebuilding a whole new complex either by year 2010 or starting 2010, I cannot remember exactly. This money was donated by the grandparents of a past player at CUC or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 03:57:43 PM
Marcus Ellwood:
     Don`t let this negative carma thing get under your saddle.
     It`s kind of like, the more your scratch it the worse it gets.
     Look at .....negative carma......as Tommy Touch Down does   ;D
     or maybe these guys are just rattling your cage and your giving them
     what they want.   Just a thought.
 
    One other thing. When you call out Pat Coleman, make sure you have an
      escape route planned. 
   
   
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 19, 2007, 04:14:07 PM
Ya that is going to suck for Mac for going back, but its smatter because now all the sports programs for mac are in the one conference. And yes there is not going to be much on the competition But you go where you have to. Im sure Mac would love to join a tougher conference just to get that experience. I mean it would look amazing if Mac would have stayed in the SLIAC when they won the IBFC for those two years, i bet Mac would have won the SLIAC for the past two-three seasons. The only team that would have challenged would have been Greenville. And they are a good team, beat Mac twice out of the past 4 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 04:55:16 PM
Drucker:
     I know your a loyal Mac fan and to that I say, great.  I`ve been to some games at Mac when they were riding high on the hog and ranked high in the D-3 rankings. 
    I remember Coach Fry telling me he wanted to build a football tradition
    at the school.  Him being an ex-Mount Union  L/Ber I figured he would do just that. Nope.  He flew the coop.  Just thought I`d throw that in.
    After 2004, their last winning season I might add,( 7-3)  the wheels came off the bus.  They looked like Con,Ill in Blue uniforms. No offense to Con,Ill intended and have been going down hill in a hurry ever since.
    Keep the faith Drucker,  they may rise out of the ashes like the Phoenix
    and win some games this year.  No, not really!   ;D
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on July 19, 2007, 05:20:07 PM
GC will compete for the title again. Here's how I got there...
1. Head coach and 2 coordinators are back (many teams can't say that)
2. 8 potential returning starters on offense and 8 potential returning starters return on defense
3. Best WR Taylor won't be missed he was overrated. Got a couple good ones coming in.
4. Best senior class they have had in a long time. A bunch of 4 year starters in this group.
5. Oline be deep and all verteran starters.

Nobody will replace #25 but they will be better at every other position on defense by nature of having another year under their. But will they have a playmaker is the question. The QB is very good and has a year under is belt as a starter. 1st team conference Kicker is back.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 07:32:55 PM
Genius:
     If all pans out Greenville could well be a contender in the IBC.
     Speculation and reality have derailed many a program.  Lets hope they
     can carry last years  momentum into the 2007 season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 19, 2007, 09:13:43 PM
Gomer  you are such a Smart Ass and I love it.  You make me laugh when you post.

The only thing I want to see this last year of the conference is for the represenitive to win ONE playoff game!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan413 on July 20, 2007, 09:49:52 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on July 19, 2007, 03:57:43 PM
Marcus Ellwood:
     Don`t let this negative carma thing get under your saddle.
     It`s kind of like, the more your scratch it the worse it gets.
     Look at .....negative carma......as Tommy Touch Down does   ;D
     or maybe these guys are just rattling your cage and your giving them
     what they want.   Just a thought.
 
    One other thing. When you call out Pat Coleman, make sure you have an
      escape route planned. 
      
     

Really good advice!   +karma to you and for the rest of the board, even Ellwood, although I try to make it a policy to not reward negative behavior.   ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 20, 2007, 10:53:20 AM
22 more days until Cougar Camp begins

This will be an exciting year for the Cougars!!!

BOOM! >:(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 20, 2007, 10:55:07 AM
Sorry in advance Pat Coleman...as stated before, my cage was rattled and I got fired up. Didn't mean to take it out on you.

Thats really the only escape route I have is a true apology....I just want to talk about football, no more karma crap.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 20, 2007, 11:19:35 AM
I survived. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan413 on July 20, 2007, 11:34:32 AM
Quote from: Marcus Ellwood on July 20, 2007, 10:55:07 AM
Sorry in advance Pat Coleman...as stated before, my cage was rattled and I got fired up. Didn't mean to take it out on you.

Thats really the only escape route I have is a true apology....I just want to talk about football, no more karma crap.

Best escape route there is!!  And that will get you a karma boost again from me when the 24 hour restriction is up! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 20, 2007, 11:51:46 AM
   Marcus Ellwood is back among use................Hallelujah! 
       
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on July 21, 2007, 12:51:57 AM
Marcus Ellwood??

More like Fartcus Smellwood........You know what I'm talking about.

BOOM
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on July 21, 2007, 08:35:38 PM
Not being a regular on this IBC board, I may have missed this and if so, my please forgive me.  Anyway, my question is what happened to all the Eureka assistants?  On their website, HC Sullivan has listed only two (one recently hired earlier this year) and a open position advertized on Pat's D3site for coaching positions.  Seems like they are "leaving the ship in waves"  Since last year's bios are obviously removed from the Eureka site, from last year's team photo it looked like they had about 7 assistants.  I realize that not all were full time, however, I thought Sullivan was starting to put together a good staff that might stay for awhile.  Too bad, as a "revolving door" for coaches and players is tough on attempting to build a program to its next level - it used to be that way for many years at Olivet in our MIAA (or perhaps look at McMurray's situation as some of you have already discussed).  However, not impossible to do, but everyone (administration, admissions, athletic administrative and coaching staffs) all have to "be on the same page".  Any insights on this anyone?  Just curious.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 22, 2007, 09:32:05 AM
Formerd3db:
      Did a search on Eureka and found they have an interesting history for a school of less than 500.
     Did find that an Ass`t football coach at Eureka College K. Barth, is now
     the Head football coach at Eureka HS.  Hope that`s correct.
     Reason`s they can`t retain football coaches? Maybe as a program and not a good one by any means,( no offense ment)  their won/loss record just doesn`t look good on a coaches resume. 
   Eureka`s record form 2000-2006:  9-51 overall.  8-41 IBFC.
   
   
 
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on July 22, 2007, 01:13:19 PM
Since the season previews aren't out yet.  How are the teams looking, any breakout players, what are the strengths and weaknesses within the teams vying for the IBFC title this year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cougarqb4 on July 22, 2007, 10:17:32 PM
this year the conference i feel will be alot closer with all of the teams how are the other teams looking??? things are looking good in cougar land and we are ready to compete this year... only a couple more weeks then we get after it....
go cougars!!! ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reddevilpride on July 23, 2007, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on July 21, 2007, 08:35:38 PM
Not being a regular on this IBC board, I may have missed this and if so, my please forgive me.  Anyway, my question is what happened to all the Eureka assistants?  On their website, HC Sullivan has listed only two (one recently hired earlier this year) and a open position advertized on Pat's D3site for coaching positions.  Seems like they are "leaving the ship in waves"  Since last year's bios are obviously removed from the Eureka site, from last year's team photo it looked like they had about 7 assistants.  I realize that not all were full time, however, I thought Sullivan was starting to put together a good staff that might stay for awhile.  Too bad, as a "revolving door" for coaches and players is tough on attempting to build a program to its next level - it used to be that way for many years at Olivet in our MIAA (or perhaps look at McMurray's situation as some of you have already discussed).  However, not impossible to do, but everyone (administration, admissions, athletic administrative and coaching staffs) all have to "be on the same page".  Any insights on this anyone?  Just curious.  Thanks.

Formerd3db:

All of the assistant coaches leaving does raise some questions.  Unfortunately, Gomer I do not think that the 9-51 record has anything to do w/it.  In the Crouch era, the assistant coaching staff never changed.  However, just being a spectator @ a few games over the past two years; it appeared that Sullivan did not treat his assistants very well.  On numerous occasions, you could hear him say things that were just completely inappropriate in front of the players (i.e. i will "expletive deleted" fire all of you).  Aww, the beauty of having those bleachers so close to the sideline. lol.   Lastly, the feeling from the alumni is that he knows his x's and o's, but needs to build better relationships w/his assistants, administration, and players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 23, 2007, 12:06:32 PM
Reddevilpride:
   Differering opinions are always welcomed.
     I`m thinking there are other reasons coaches leave beside the
      occasional expletive used on the side=-line.   Like nobody has used
    bad language before?  Even at Eureka?
   My reason for pointing out the win/loss record  does have a liitle more
  validity as a "possible" reason than the HC using some 4-lettered words.
   When coaches move on their resume is pretty much all they`ve got.
   I really don`t think he would say, reason for leaving, occasional bad language or would they want to show 9-51 for 6 years efforts.
   Most schools looking to hire want a proven coach not one coming from a program that is and has been floundering. I`m not picking on Eureka at all but the facts speak for them selfs.
   Eureka is one of if not the smallest college playing D-3 football. With no established program,recruiting good players is a tough sell. With out good players.......no conference title. No ring! No shot at an NCAA playoff game.
   Eureka certainly has a rich history (as a college) but why coaches stop by for a cup of coffee (figure of speech) could be attributed to just that.....................no sustainable program.
   
   

   
   

       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 23, 2007, 12:43:58 PM
Gomer, you are right, the administration, staff, and coaches must be on the same page, and have some stability, and a committed administration, back in the early to mid 90's Eureka was the top team in the conference.  If the administration cares and support the coaches good things will happen, look how MacMurray went down hill when the support left, and when Coach Gay retired, and the brought the other AD in.  It is not just coaches but everyone must be on the same page.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 23, 2007, 02:38:51 PM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on July 21, 2007, 12:51:57 AM
Marcus Ellwood??

More like Fartcus Smellwood........You know what I'm talking about.

BOOM
No way man...don't even go there.
Holy crap, I was on a 24 hour restriction??? Good thing I don't come on over the weekend, that would of been the worst 24 hours of my life!!! :P
19 more days till players report for Cougar Camp
Anyone in here play video games and if so play NCAA 08? I need some challenges, quite bored at the moment. heh. ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 23, 2007, 02:39:38 PM
p.s.



BOOM!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 23, 2007, 04:14:26 PM
Catch22:
    "when coach Gay retired"..................There were bigger issues that
       expedited  his retirement. IMO.
  MacMurray went down hill, after 2002,  because they never had an "O"
   line worth a hoot. 
   If stats were available "yards per"  would back that up. But, due to the
   lack of commitment by one of the many SID`s ( Girls Softball coach in this case) that information is no where to be found. 
   As you stated," MacMuray is going down hill." 
  .   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 23, 2007, 04:24:24 PM
Gomer, Mac did not have a thousand yard rusher in 2002 when they went 10-0 during the regular season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 23, 2007, 04:39:35 PM
Quote from: catch22 on July 23, 2007, 04:24:24 PM
Gomer, Mac did not have a thousand yard rusher in 2002 when they went 10-0 during the regular season.

  You are correct. Steve Ballinger had 821 yds. The most that season by a Mac RB.
  Nothing like an un-defeated season!  The guys that got the RING can be
  proud of their accomplishment.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 23, 2007, 05:07:12 PM
I agree totally.  Football is a the ultimate team sport, one guy can never do it by himself in football, maybe basketball, maybe soccer, maybe baseball, but never in football, it takes an entire team, pulling in the same direction.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 26, 2007, 11:11:33 AM
Pre-Season Div-3 Top 25 poll.
   Con, Wis, came in 43rd. They are listed in teams that also got votes.
    Con, Wis,  has been on a roll of late and it looks like this season will be
    no different.
   With their programs being in good shape, recruiting good athletes
    is made easier.
    Can`t wait for the crowd at Lakeland,AKA...The Baby Cheese Heads, to
    come alive when they find out they didn`t even get (1) vote.
    Lakeland is good for at least one ( and more for sure) "W"  and that`s
   when they beat the snot out of Mac.
       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on July 26, 2007, 11:30:32 AM
Fartcus-

Too bad NCAA 08 smells more then Cougswillwin. 

The only good sports game EA makes is FIFA.....and maybe Tiger Woods, but even that was questionable this past year.

September 1st, first game for the Cougars.  Big things happening this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on July 26, 2007, 12:32:29 PM
Yeah Fartcus,

He's right.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on July 26, 2007, 05:05:10 PM
Gomer, reddevil and catch:

Thanks for your replies/opinions regarding the Eureka program.  Indeed, it has a rich tradition as a college.  For the sake of the college and d3 football, I'd like to see them attain a next level for the program.  However, as you point out, being such a small college, it will probably always be a stepping stone for young coaches in their careers to gain some good experience.  Unless, of course, someone comes in who just wants to spend their entire career at a small college, small town.  On the other hand, the latter isn't all that bad in one sense because there is something to be said for making a difference in young people's lives even at a small college.  There are some more important things in life in that regard that doesn't always have to be done "at the big time" level.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on July 27, 2007, 11:15:50 AM
Man, you guys better stop calling me Fartcus or I am telling.
Baseman....you basically broke a man-law by being an (ex) football player and saying you even like anything about soccer....tsk tsk. FIFA!!! Just ridiculous. NCAA is a good game, you just suck.  :P
Cougswillwin....we are not friends anymore...I just drew the line.

15 MORE DAYS TILL COUGAR CAMP

BOOM!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 27, 2007, 07:32:28 PM
Wow!  It is July 27th, How many days before camp or before players report and MacMurray College is still looking for coaches?  Good luck! They should just cancel the season, redshirt everyone and wait for the SLIAC season.  So actually how many players are on the team? LOL
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Titanwatcher on July 27, 2007, 09:36:30 PM
Quote from: catch22 on July 27, 2007, 07:32:28 PM
Wow!  It is July 27th, How many days before camp or before players report and MacMurray College is still looking for coaches?  Good luck! They should just cancel the season, redshirt everyone and wait for the SLIAC season.  So actually how many players are on the team? LOL
As true as that may be, that is harsh ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 27, 2007, 10:44:19 PM
Pete give them a break. Its going to be a tough year for them. But giving up the season is just a cowards way out. Im sure you didnt want to give up last year when you found out that the coaching staff got fired. So im sure the current players are not going to give up.

And I believe that there is around 75 players that are reporting to camp.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on July 27, 2007, 10:55:54 PM
Unfortunately, sometimes that happens.  Many of the d3 schools have had coaches added late in July, and even some leaving for which reasons vary as the seasons.  Indeed, that makes it a very tough challenge, but not impossible even thought the results might not be what is expected nor wanted.  Some people might assert that MacMurray is still a fault in not securing the coaching staff even at this late date since they've had ample opportunity since the late winter/early spring this year when people left, were fired or whatever.  Yet at least they are making an effort to put a staff in place for the student-athletes and at least there will be a team, which in reality is better than nothing.  Hopefully, the administration and the coaches will work together and strive to improve the situation there for the good of everyone.  I wish them the best.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on July 27, 2007, 10:55:54 PM
Many of the d3 schools have had coaches added late in July,

Who? The last time I can find a coach being added in anything that could be remotely considered late July was July 12, 2004, when CURF promoted Bob Conwell to replace Jeff Hynes, who was named dean of students.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on July 27, 2007, 11:48:20 PM
Mac has a full staff now.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 28, 2007, 12:23:49 AM
Then why did they post a job on our job board this morning?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on July 28, 2007, 03:02:10 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on July 27, 2007, 10:55:54 PM
Many of the d3 schools have had coaches added late in July,

Who? The last time I can find a coach being added in anything that could be remotely considered late July was July 12, 2004, when CURF promoted Bob Conwell to replace Jeff Hynes, who was named dean of students.

Not common, but has happened.  For example, back in 2000, Alma had a couple of assistant coaches added late July, much later than July 12th.  Olivet (MI) lost its head coach Dallas Hilliar who left abruptly in July.  Adrian just had two assistants leave this month.  At any rate Pat, my point was that it is difficult when that happens but was to encourage MacMurray followers and players not to be discouraged.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 28, 2007, 12:12:58 PM
rucker the only person who is a quitter is you, actually how many times did you quit 2 or 3 am I right.  David I feel sorry for you. But, the football team only has 50 players from my source, so they will start the first with maybe 40 and end the season around 28-30, I will never quit or let a adverse situation stop me, you did.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 28, 2007, 01:48:31 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 28, 2007, 12:23:49 AM
Then why did they post a job on our job board this morning?

   MacMurray just being MacMurray!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 28, 2007, 02:07:43 PM
Pat Coleman:
    Pat, is that a double posting on the D-3 Job Board?
    The one where MacMurray is looking for a ." Part time Linebackers coach."
     Looks to me to be the same language or did I miss the obvious?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 28, 2007, 03:12:48 PM
You are right pete i did quit, I knew football wasnt in me anymore. So i left, and I am glad I did because the team was pathetic and I did not want to be  a part of something that was not a team but just individuals who were trying to please mcray. I have no grudges against any off the former players, I enjoyed being around all of you. Ecspecailly you pete, you were a fun guy to be around, always seemed to know what was going on and you were like reno.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 28, 2007, 07:01:05 PM
Drucker, Good luck in life, I hope you reach all your dreams and goals.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 28, 2007, 07:14:50 PM
Thank you pete, I hope you also have a good life and do whatever it is that you want to do. I could easily see you being a coach and doing a great job. You are a great motivator.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on July 28, 2007, 08:56:24 PM
now that you guys are done making out...can we get back to football?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Titanwatcher on July 29, 2007, 12:44:03 AM
Quote from: neweraibfc on July 28, 2007, 08:56:24 PM
now that you guys are done making out...can we get back to football?

This is why this is one of the funniest boards on here
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 29, 2007, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: cougarqb4 on July 22, 2007, 10:17:32 PM
this year the conference i feel will be alot closer with all of the teams how are the other teams looking??? things are looking good in cougar land and we are ready to compete this year... only a couple more weeks then we get after it....
go cougars!!! ;D

   "Things are looking good in Cougar land."
      Optimism  and enthusiasm go hand and hand but the reality of the Cougar football program  for the last 6 years (2000-06) shows little
    improvement. Really bad. That`s why they finish last (most of the time ) in the IBFC.
     Their "over-all" record is .............. 5-64.
      Their IBFC record is.....................4-45.   Source for numbers is from D-3.
   The above is not waving a red flag in your face but  facts carry more weight  than hur-rah.
    How about some sound reasons why your so optimistic. 
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 29, 2007, 11:21:41 AM
Gomer;

You are right on with CUC. It takes time 3-6 years to get out of the hole they were in. Their coach will start his second year and has made some improvements but there is a very long way to go to consistantly challenge for the conference championship. I do think they may surprise someone this year as I have said before. This program needs time to go from last to first, IMO, if they can. I don't see CUW, Aurora, Lakeland or Benedictine going in a negative direction, IMO. This just compounds CUC position. Competition is Great!

Anyone hear info on Lakeland, Aurora or Greenville as camp approaches?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 29, 2007, 11:41:35 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on July 28, 2007, 03:02:10 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on July 27, 2007, 10:55:54 PM
Many of the d3 schools have had coaches added late in July,

Who? The last time I can find a coach being added in anything that could be remotely considered late July was July 12, 2004, when CURF promoted Bob Conwell to replace Jeff Hynes, who was named dean of students.

Not common, but has happened.  For example, back in 2000, Alma had a couple of assistant coaches added late July, much later than July 12th.  Olivet (MI) lost its head coach Dallas Hilliar who left abruptly in July.  Adrian just had two assistants leave this month.  At any rate Pat, my point was that it is difficult when that happens but was to encourage MacMurray followers and players not to be discouraged.

Ahh. You meant assistant coaches.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 30, 2007, 12:37:24 PM
So Pat do you know if Mac has a full coaching staff or a close to full?

I also think that Greenville takes the conference this year suprising everyone and then CUW then Mac then the rest fall into whatever order.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on July 30, 2007, 12:43:08 PM
I actually agree with you on Greenville and then CUW, but you kind of messed up the rest of the order, it should be as follows.

Greenville
CUW
rest in whatever order

MAC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 30, 2007, 12:51:03 PM
Its good to be loyal to your alma mater but in reality, these are my unbias pciks

1. CUW
2. Aurora
3. Greenville
4. Benedictine
5. Concordia IL
6. Lakeland
7. Eureka
8. MacMurray
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 30, 2007, 04:10:04 PM
Quote from: drucker on July 30, 2007, 12:37:24 PM
So Pat do you know if Mac has a full coaching staff or a close to full?

I also think that Greenville takes the conference this year suprising everyone and then CUW then Mac then the rest fall into whatever order.

You Said in part,"................Greenville takes the conference................."
   Drucker, you need to open all the windows in that singe wide trailer,
    turn on the oscillating fan and pray that those toxic fumes haven`t  left you with a permanent mental  disability.  Come to think of it, it already sounds like some of those brain cells are getting a little mushy.
    Greenville will be in the hunt but they do not have the depth all-around
    to knock off the big boys. Lakeland,Con.Wis, Aurora.  I even think the BU game is a toss up. 
   Your retort is welcome. That is after the Fire Dept. has checked you out.  :D
   
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 30, 2007, 04:14:47 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on July 28, 2007, 02:07:43 PM
Pat Coleman:
    Pat, is that a double posting on the D-3 Job Board?
    The one where MacMurray is looking for a ." Part time Linebackers coach."
     Looks to me to be the same language or did I miss the obvious?

  Pat Coleman:
     I see the double MacMurray job thing has been corrected. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 30, 2007, 06:38:11 PM
Now gomer pyle I put greenville up there because I think that its going to be a major upset and that they are going to suprise and pull off a unbelievable season, could make a movie. But to be honest I just said it because i do think its possible.

Who knows maybe Eureka pulls off the conference title this year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 30, 2007, 10:33:39 PM
Drucker;

If Eureka wins the conference this year, they might get to win a playoff game. That would not be a surprize but the biggest miracle ever, bigger than the USA hockey upset of USSR. Please don't take as an Eureka bash. Just my opinion.

Catch 22;
I think Lakeland may be a surprise team. They return a lot and everyone thinks they will go no where because of the late coaching change.They can be very dangerous with those athletes and that much experience returning. However their non-conference schedule is a ball buster, not to mention their first two conference games are on the road. I am sure the fish guys/gals that post on the board have a better picture on them. Your picks look good, any reaons for the order of finish, strengths/weaknesses. Good job.

Gomer;
When will your picks come? Do you think we will see Maddog this year or was he traded to another team. I hear his son is a GA at the fish school, I don't know if true.

Does anyone think Aurora can when the conference this year and why or why not?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 31, 2007, 12:12:34 AM
Aurora can win it this year because Aurora consistently finishes in the top of the conference
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on July 31, 2007, 08:40:52 AM
old 40

1. CUW - They are the champs until somone knocks them off, always have a big, strong physical team.

2. Aurora - Improved throughout the year, bring back a lot of talent.

3. Greenville - lost their best player in #25, without him on defense they were very average, bring back the qb, who could be the player of the year, lose their top WR from last year team. lose a few ol, dl, and that is the key in this conference.

4. Benedictine - third year for Coach Cooper and staff, and they could be the surprise team, they improved every year under this staff.

5. CUC - they played MAC, CUW tough last year, and that coach is doing a good job with bringing in quality kids.

6. Lakeland - losing their coach this late, and for the new coach to come in, and hiring his staff, and his first job as a head coach, will be tough for anyone to overcome, there will be a learning curve for the coach, and players, and a brutal non-conference schedule, would not be surprise if Z tries to score a 100 points on them.

7. Eureka - Eureka is Eureka they will beat MAC, no offense, they never really have establish a identity on offense or defense, past two season 1-19, do not see much improvent this year, always playing freshman. You do not win with freshman at every position, maybe two or three but not 10 or 11.

8. MacMurray - With the coaching change lost some of their best players left, young coach, who will be in for a long year, will start a freshman at almost every position, two coaches on staff, no o-line, no d-line, freshman qb, long,long, long, season. They may be blackburn. I would not be surprise if they take 15 passenger vans to games, school is trouble finiacially, lot of poor management from the administration part, will probably start the season with 35-40 players.

So this is my opinion, old 40.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 31, 2007, 08:59:42 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on July 31, 2007, 12:12:34 AM
Aurora can win it this year because Aurora consistently finishes in the top of the conference

  Agree!  Plus they recruit good athletes just about every year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 31, 2007, 09:15:34 AM
Catch 22:
    Nice job. 
    You said in part,"......if Z tries to score 100 points on them......" Hey,
    he`s not playing MacMurray. ;D
   The  Whitewater  game will not even be close!  Look forward to the Babby Cheese heads getting their collective brains beat out.
   As my "proxy" team, they get to extract revenge for all the teams that Lakeland has run the score up on and there are many! 
   Got to give them credit though, as they have a very high humiliation
   level or as Maddog would say," we could-a, would-a, should-a beat
   them ."  Ya,ya! 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 31, 2007, 09:27:05 AM
Quote from: drucker on July 30, 2007, 06:38:11 PM
Now gomer pyle I put greenville up there because I think that its going to be a major upset and that they are going to suprise and pull off a unbelievable season, could make a movie. But to be honest I just said it because i do think its possible.

Who knows maybe Eureka pulls off the conference title this year

   Eureka?.............................................................
      I believe somebody put an un-known substance in your morning cereal.
      You don`t see spiders on the wall do you?  Get the Fire Dept back, your having a relapse!  :D
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on July 31, 2007, 09:43:51 AM
Old 40:
    Picking the top 3 is easy, it`s the next 4 that`s hard.  This year, as most would agree, will see some major improvement  in those bottom 4.
    Most years it`s been one and done as far as the conference championship went. Just check past years standings say from 2001-2006.
   But this year having better parity(IMO) things could be different. Not in
   the top three but the others.
   As far as Maddog goes, I`ll bet he`s in early re-hab with the thought of his Babby Cheese heads about to get their train de-railed by Wis,Whitewater. 
   You mentioned his son, he was a great player for Lakeland.  Did some other stuff (football) in Europe.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 31, 2007, 01:11:10 PM
Catch 22;

Great look at the conference. I think you nailed it on the head. Nice job.
Benedictine can move pass Greenville if they get an Offense to score some points. Their defense will be good. I agree with you on Greenville. Their LB was Great and I think that lost coupled with some other key players will hurt their defense. Their offense will have to carry them. They will be tough, however. Aurora will be tough on Defense. Their question will be Offense. Inexperience at QB will hurt them. Defense will keep them in every game. I think your rankings will be very close to the final finish.

Who do you think has the best chance to beat CUW?

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on July 31, 2007, 02:21:50 PM
2 Weeks away boys!!! Hope everyone had a great winter and spring. 
Spring Turkey Hunting went well. Got some good hunts on film with Team Realtree down here in Southern Illinois. Best part of fall Football and Hunting!!
Spring workouts went great for GC, the recruiting was awesome this year.  Alot of good athletes coming in this year, very pleased.  Dom is back (QB) to run the offense, O-Line is all returning except Big Poe, but some veterans will be stepping up to take over.  Losing J.R. #25(LB) is a huge loss, but one that can be overcome.  Defense will still dominate just like the last 2 years.   The WR loss of Taylor should not be a big deal, like someone said before somewhat overrated anyway. 
It's going to be a good year for GC just like the previous 2 years.  The program has changed I hope everyone can see that. It's not the same old Greenville.  2005 Lakeland beating everyone in the conference by at least 21 pts, except GC and CUW who they only beat by 7 and 3.    Then 2006 everyone was going CUW crazy, saying they're going to kill everyone in the conf. well they did beat everyone in the conference by at least 2 touchdowns except Greenville who lost in OT @ CUW.   

Prediction......

1. Greenville Panthers
2. AU
3. CUW
4. BU
5. Lakeland   
6. CUC
7. Eureka
8. MAC
The middle there is tough to figure out.  It could go either way with AU, CUW, BU, and Lakeland.  CUC depends their kind of rebuilding too.  MAC is a dissapointment and EU will pick up a win against them. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on July 31, 2007, 03:18:48 PM
Quotewell they did beat everyone in the conference by at least 2 touchdowns except Greenville who lost in OT @ CUW.

CUW only beat CUC by 11 @ CUW

And I think Catch22s predictions are right on the button as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on July 31, 2007, 10:57:12 PM
I have talked it over with some ESPN people and they agree with me. Whoever wins the conference title needs to win a playoff game and send the IBC out with a bang. That would be a great treat, then we could get all the former IBC participants together and have a big party, hell Pat you are invited as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on August 01, 2007, 12:34:42 AM
would anyone be surprised if BU stole the conference?...I've heard preseason hype about the usual contenders but the boys in lisle have been pretty silent.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on August 01, 2007, 11:50:48 AM
I would be surprised....the usual contenders get the hype because they prove themselves year after year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 01, 2007, 12:58:56 PM
I think there's room in this league for an up-and-comer like Benedictine or Greenville to take the final title.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 01, 2007, 01:32:24 PM
You will get a good idea of how Benedictine is (strength wise) when they battle Elmhurst and North Central in the non-conference.    Elmhurst has dominated the EC/BEN matchup of late, winning 7 straight, however I think Benedictine will be much improved this year, along with having home field advantage, so I think opening day will be a much more difficult game for Elmhurst.
I don't know about Lakeland and CUW, but I think Benedictine is going to be in the top 2-3 of the conference, with an outside shot at the crown.
I hope Ben wins every game uh, after opening day  ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 01, 2007, 01:44:11 PM
I could see BU in the Top 3.   Going to be some tough games this year.  Thank goodness Lakeland, CUW, and BU all play at GC this year. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on August 01, 2007, 03:07:08 PM
That is definetly a plus for Greenville...To get the top four in the conference at home.  I could see BU making a run at the IBC title if they play well.  They have been gaining ground each year with thier new coach.  I don't think they will beat thier CCIW opponents though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on August 01, 2007, 04:40:03 PM
I admit BU has Improved over the last couple of years is due large in part to Jon Cooper.....I believe they will do well they just must prove it on the field.....NCC_alum62-I wouldn't put BU in the top 4 just yet....and I'm also curious to see if GC can hang after losing their best defensive player......I think there will be a lot of close games this year but I think the 3 usual contenders will remain on top.....CUW, AU, LC...with GC, BU not far behind but I think those top 3 will remain constant
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 01, 2007, 09:29:32 PM
BU's Offense must come to play in order for them to challenge for the championship. IMO, their defense will be one of the better ones in the conference. IMO, the QB position will be a big question mark. Last year was his first year as a starter, he did well on the run, especially on the option but the whole passing game will have to improve big time. Durability is the big question, He is not the biggest guy. They will have plenty of depth this year at most positions. I hear they had a bumper crop of recruits.

Fatal Impact, I agree with you that there will be  a lot of close games between Aurora,BU,CUW,GU,CUW and Lakeland.

I don't see GU losing many of their home games. Their schedule will be a big factor for them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 02, 2007, 09:31:24 AM
GC away schedule is CUC, MAC, and AU.  Playing at AU will be tough. We had them at GC last year and beat them, but lost in 05 at AU.   GC plays EU at Greenville too.   I could not ask for a better schedule this year.

One other thing to think about is, GC is going in to the 2007 season with the same head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator as last year and the year before.  Lakeland has different Head Coach, AU has different Offensive Coordinator, MAC....I don't know if MAC has a staff.  That could also play a part this year.   Who knows how much of a part. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on August 02, 2007, 01:36:03 PM
Tru Country, the team to beat is CUW, last year, was last year, forget how tough you played, 2007 is the key, and CUW also returns, there Head Coach, Offensive and Defensive Coordinator, AU has the same head coach and from what I heard he called the offensive plays, beware of Benedictine, they are my surprise team for 2007.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 02, 2007, 03:24:43 PM
Quote from: catch22 on August 02, 2007, 01:36:03 PM
Tru Country, the team to beat is CUW, last year, was last year, forget how tough you played, 2007 is the key, and CUW also returns, there Head Coach, Offensive and Defensive Coordinator, AU has the same head coach and from what I heard he called the offensive plays, beware of Benedictine, they are my surprise team for 2007.

I'm aware CUW is the team to beat, do to the fact CUW is the conference champs, it's not in question.  I'm saying GC had the best chance to take them down last year, and with both teams losing some key players, but returning QB's who like to option alot it's going to be an awesome game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 03, 2007, 04:01:54 PM
rumors around Cougar Land....80+ players on the team this year...I smell competiton amongst the team with most of these players Coach Preis is bringing in this year and the athletes already on the team. It will be an above average year for the Cougars. Every year this team is doubted by many and well, back then they had a reason to be. Look out for a new CUC team this year...stronger and faster.

COUGAR CAMP in 8 DAYS

BOOM >:(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on August 03, 2007, 05:19:12 PM
Marcus Ellwood, you are correct I pick them to be #5 in the conference, but they must improved on defense, they offense scored a few points last year 41 against Mac,  if they can improved that area of the team, they could beat some people.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 04, 2007, 07:03:02 AM
 To take that one step further. With a score of 46-41 (Mac winning) it was more like a free for all. As Catch 22 stated, somebody needs some
   DEFENSE.  Nobody took charge of the game they just played till they ran out of time.
  Con,Ill can only get better,while Mac looks like it will continue it`s down-ward spiral.
    If the Courgars start to "believe", this up coming season can be much improved.  Winning (1) conference game last year doesn`t set the bar very high but Mr Ellwood seems to think this year will be different. 
  The reality of it is the Cougars are what they are.........consistently bad.
   I`m not knocking their program but the facts over the long haul prove me out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 06, 2007, 09:42:52 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 04, 2007, 07:03:02 AM
To take that one step further. With a score of 46-41 (Mac winning) it was more like a free for all. As Catch 22 stated, somebody needs some
   DEFENSE.  Nobody took charge of the game they just played till they ran out of time.
  Con,Ill can only get better,while Mac looks like it will continue it`s down-ward spiral.
    If the Courgars start to "believe", this up coming season can be much improved.  Winning (1) conference game last year doesn`t set the bar very high but Mr Ellwood seems to think this year will be different. 
  The reality of it is the Cougars are what they are.........consistently bad.
   I`m not knocking their program but the facts over the long haul prove me out.
Thats completely understandable that you think the way you do Gomer. The past of CUC should be slapped around. However, winning one conference game last year was in a way, a step for this team. They worked with a brand new coaching staff last year. All said and done, the full staff probably wasn't in until around May. Bringing that up, they did well with the time they were given with recruiting. Now with a year under their belts, a whole off season to keep track their team, and a whole year to recruit, Coach Pries and the rest of the staff will have a better team this year. The 46-41 loss to MAC was a dagger in CUCs hearts...even the fans (I think more than what MAC had in their stands) were devastated. The D-coord for CUC last year was not a "top-notch" D-coord and that was his first stint at anything on defense.
   I really don't want to bash the guy because from what I noticed when I met him, he was an all-around good guy. However, when an offense puts up 41 points, it should be a W for that team. Why I typed all this, I don't know but I guess it was to really prove my point that the Cougars will have a defense this year and an amazing offense. This is my reasoning as to why the Cougars will end the drought of being consistantly bad and now to end the IBFC and start in a new conference, they will excel.

Thanks for the discussion Gomer and Catch.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 06, 2007, 11:37:13 AM
Marcus Ellwood:
    I hope your enthusiasm for the Cougars is rewarded with many "W`s."

   "................close to 65 players will report to football camp on Aug. 10th."
    That`s a partial quote (by HC Kyle Sweeney) taken from the MacMurray Athletic site. 
   In past years their football roster was always close to 100, what
   happened?   Close to a 30% drop...give or take. 
   Anybody got any ideas? 
   The Alumni (football) of the recent past who got Mac into the big time, even if but for a short time,  must be thinking, " that program  has fallen hard and can`t get up."
   The buzzards are circling!
   
                              "
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on August 06, 2007, 12:36:38 PM
Marcus Ellwood, Mac turn the ball over twice inside their own 20, that led to points, that game was a heart breaker for your guys, I remember the look on your faces after the game, but you guys always played Mac tough, but no cigar, good luck this year I will be pulling for you guys this year to be the underdog special, Also the refs throwing 5 consecutive pass interference, I found out that the Administration did not have the checks for the refs at the game, or one of the checks bounced something like that. True story.

Gomer, as far as Mac, that's what happen when you hire a 28 year old coach, who has never been an coordinator at any level, once again POOR ADMINISTRATION! Gomer they only have 50 players not 65 according to my source.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 06, 2007, 02:12:03 PM
 Catch22       ".............. they only have 50 players not 65 according to my source."  Keep in mind the HC at Mac said 65.    ???
   If your source is correct, then MacMurray is in a world of hurt.
    Keep in mind the "usual" roster count was about 100 or about 17 % of the total student enrollment at Mac.
  Part of a coaches job is --------------recruiting. If these coaches come up with about 50% under previous levels, how long do you think they`ll last?
   Like I said earlier, The buzzards are circling.
   Caveat:  The above is only good if your source is correct.  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on August 06, 2007, 02:16:13 PM
Gomer, my source had 15-20 players returning, and 25-30 new players what does that add up to on the high end 50 players.

No offense to Mac players, but this is going to be the worst year in school history, 50 players, starting a ton of freshman, and maybe to 3 or 4 sophmores, no o-line or d-line, and two coaches.  Good luck fellas, because your are going to need it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 06, 2007, 02:25:51 PM
catch22:
    They only have (2) coaches?  What happened to the others?
    Their web site shows a couple of new hires by the HC. X-Players at Mac.
     
  2 coaches.
  50 players.
  And a Micky Mouse, make that plywood press box. 
  The Buzzards are circling.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on August 06, 2007, 02:36:24 PM
Sorry about that Gomer 3 coaches and 50 players, the former mac player is not doing it, thats why they advertised assistant coaching positions several weeks ago. But who accept 1500 dollars for the year and no room and board to coach, do not get me I know when you start something new, you have to work your way up, but that is the administration fault at Mac, their "intern" coaches left after their first checks because of misleading information, not being paid the amount they should have been receiving and things like that, not just football coaches, but other sport coaches who left. BAD SITUATION!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 06, 2007, 02:47:57 PM
catch 22:
                               The Buzzards are really circling!!   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 06, 2007, 04:28:21 PM
Quote from: catch22 on August 06, 2007, 12:36:38 PM
Marcus Ellwood, Mac turn the ball over twice inside their own 20, that led to points, that game was a heart breaker for your guys, I remember the look on your faces after the game, but you guys always played Mac tough, but no cigar, good luck this year I will be pulling for you guys this year to be the underdog special, Also the refs throwing 5 consecutive pass interference, I found out that the Administration did not have the checks for the refs at the game, or one of the checks bounced something like that. True story.

Gomer, as far as Mac, that's what happen when you hire a 28 year old coach, who has never been an coordinator at any level, once again POOR ADMINISTRATION! Gomer they only have 50 players not 65 according to my source.

Man do I remember that game and those horrible horrible calls by the ref. I think there was one point where CUC scored a touchdown off a pass to take the lead by two td's and a ref called it back for a block in the back by another WR. It is clearly shown (this TD is on their highlight film because it is amazing) that there was no block in the back by the WR it was called on. How in the world does a school not have checks ready for the refs or have a check bounce??? C'mon now. And if that was the case, shouldn't the refs have been calling the game CUCs way and not MACs...hahah ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 06, 2007, 05:04:14 PM
Catch 22;

I think you are right. I spoke with a conference head coach last week and the Mac head coach was hoping for a final count of about 60 but was confirming he had 52 definite. IMO when the numbers are that low it will be a long year, not to mention trying to survive the opener versus Augie at Rock Island, Ouch. It's a shame that Mac has fallen on bad times. Hopefully the new young coach can get things turned around. It may take a while. I also heard they have raised their entrance requirements. This coupled with the lack odf mony, as seen by the number of total coaches, down from past staffs, it really will be a long year. I hope they can be competitive in some games. I hope they will do well in the SLIAC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on August 06, 2007, 05:06:39 PM
Fartcus...

Yeah, CUC's way, not Mac's...

See ya on Saturday big boy.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on August 06, 2007, 05:14:10 PM
No offense to anyone, but Mac has been raising the academic standards for a long time and if you go to a school in Jacksonville, will it be IC or Mac, easy choice right, now imagine, if Mac is increasing its academic standards do you think a kid from Illinois would come to Mac, when you have IC down the road, Millikin, Illinois Wesleyan, Monmouth in the two hour radius, I think not. Before the increase their standards how about updating the dorms,the campus,then knock down blackstock which has not been open in about 7 or 8 years becausing of cancer causing agents.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on August 06, 2007, 07:39:22 PM
Catch22 who is your source? I am just curious is all.

And we all know mac is going to have a tough year, its no secret that the college is in some serious trouble and needs all the help it can get. Maybe the alumni could donate more money, because hopefully this new president doesnt screw over the college.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 07, 2007, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: catch22 on August 06, 2007, 05:14:10 PM
No offense to anyone, but Mac has been raising the academic standards for a long time and if you go to a school in Jacksonville, will it be IC or Mac, easy choice right, now imagine, if Mac is increasing its academic standards do you think a kid from Illinois would come to Mac, when you have IC down the road, Millikin, Illinois Wesleyan, Monmouth in the two hour radius, I think not. Before the increase their standards how about updating the dorms,the campus,then knock down blackstock which has not been open in about 7 or 8 years becausing of cancer causing agents.

ummm, thats just horrible (if true).

Cougswillwin....man, I told you to stop calling me Fartcus man...my name is Marcus...I am proud of the name my mother gave me. Anyways....yes, see you Saturday at your huge Gay Bash!!! (I hope you told your friends that I am straight, remember I am only doing this because we are friends)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on August 07, 2007, 12:03:50 PM
Marcus,

YOU SAID: The D-coord for CUC last year was not a "top-notch" D-coord and that was his first stint at anything on defense.
  I really don't want to bash the guy because from what I noticed when I met him, he was an all-around good guy. However, when an offense puts up 41 points, it should be a W for that team.

The problem with your comments is the implication is that the players on CUC defense was good but it was the coach who held them back. CUC had one of the slowest defenses in the conference. The LBs were very bad. The coach may not have been good but for anyone with a little know about football (outside of CUC) will agree that the players on the field were not good. Tony Dungy wouldn't have one more than 1 game with those players.

The one thing that has always struck me in football chat rooms is everybody has a good team and it is always some thing or someone else that keeps them from winning. Not one person ever takes responsibility for their losses and say "we sucked and need to get better."
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 07, 2007, 12:28:46 PM
Yeah, MAC sounds like a wonderful place.......

Don't forget the rubber parts to fill in holes on the football field......

Very excited to watch some Cougar football this year, I know Fartcus is.

And Genius, I do agree with you, coaches really have nothing to do with the talent on the field besides the recruiting process.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 07, 2007, 02:41:41 PM
   So what I am getting from this is that the D-coord never has anything to do with how bad a defense is? Riiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt.....and I am not one to bash players and I won't do it. If you think the LBs were slow that is your opinion but you can't say that some of the blame couldn't be on the d-coord...they do make the calls my friend.
   The Defensive coordinator last year at CUC had no history of anything on defense. He took a job at another school for the Offensive coordinator position, where he should be in his career as football coach. You can't have a coach with no defensive history come into any level of college football and coach a defense. For all we know, this guy was reading defense for morons right before the first game of CUCs season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 07, 2007, 03:29:37 PM
Drucker:
   You said in part," who is your source.?"  Nobody ever reveals his/her source or at the very least clear it with the "source" first. It goes under the heading of..........confidential. 
   The way things appear to going at MacMurray this season, Can you guess what the HC might due to  ............. the source?
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on August 07, 2007, 04:58:51 PM
I know but I was just wondering is all. I think I have a clue  who it is so I dont care anymore. But come on why does everyone pick on mac? It gets old after three postings. I know we have nothing better to talk about until the season starts. But why cant we find other things wrong with other schools. I know it will be tough but Mac's feelings are hurt  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 07, 2007, 05:15:58 PM
Drucker-

Fine, I will start:

Eurekas football field is on a slant and extra points go into a trailer park.

Who's next?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on August 07, 2007, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 07, 2007, 05:15:58 PM
Drucker-

Fine, I will start:

Eurekas football field is on a slant and extra points go into a trailer park.

Who's next?

That was funny. Drucker, see you soon!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on August 08, 2007, 07:09:21 AM
Marcus,

"The coach may not have been good but "

That is pulled directly from my post. I acknowledged that you may be correct that the coach didn't know much BUT... you're talking about a team and a defense that has been consistently poor long before the that coach arrived (DISPUTE THAT?). So to simply make reference to the coach as the problem is immature and not a accurate representation of the situation. I guess even before that DC arrived it was the coaches fault in the past too, huh.

Players make plays, not coaches.

Now you on the otherhand, still didn't pass ANY of the blame to the players. You don't have to bash a player to tell the truth. Let me show you how its done. You have a decent QB. But he threw a ton of INTs and that will hold the offense back. Because the talent around him isn't good enough to overcome those mistakes versus the good teams in the conference.

See... i acknowledged he has some skills. I didn't bash him.But i told the truth about the situation.

Here is another one... CUC's offense improved some and hit their peak vs CUW with 20pts, but they were shut down versus all the good teams in the conference (Lakeland, GC, Aurora, Bene). So they showed potential but still have a tremendous leap that needs to be made to win more than 2 games in the conference. But the program is improving.

See...you can tell the truth or give an opinion without bashing someone.

You and everyone else should try it...



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on August 08, 2007, 09:08:31 AM
QuoteAnd we all know mac is going to have a tough year, its no secret that the college is in some serious trouble and needs all the help it can get. Maybe the alumni could donate more money, because hopefully this new president doesnt screw over the college.

Folks have been donating money for years and look where that has gotten the school...  Its not the fact that alumni aren't donating, its the fact of where that money is going.  I think to everyone on this board its pretty clear that not much of it flows back into the athletic department or facilities. 

I truely believe Mac will climb back out ot the hole they're stuck in right now.  Either that or become the new home for the J-Ville looney bin..

Catch 22 - Cancer causing agents in Blackstock?  I'm a goner......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 08, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Now I see how you got your username "Genius". 
  Seriously, say what you want about CUC and the past...past is the past and yes it was the players fault in the past and it was the coaches fault for horrible recruiting. Even when they were able to recruit...they did a horrible job. I am a fan of CUC and I will always have blinders on just like everyone else on this board....deal with it. If I think CUC is going to have a good season then let me think that and the record at the end will prove what I thought right or wrong. I don't see how putting some blame on a coach is immature and it is accurate. You have a coach that has never coached a day of defense in his life come to the college level...what is going to happen??? If you are going to tell me that any coach could just come to the college level and start coaching and have an outstanding offense or defense without a day of coaching it then that is an immature and inaccurate representation.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 08, 2007, 11:47:47 AM
Genius;

Very well said. I guess the CUC head coach had thought the DC was good before he hired him. My understanding is they were friends from the past. The head coach must of realized this guy was not the answer and cut bait. You are right about taking time. It will and they are going in the right diection.

I was at the CUW campus last week and saw the new style turf on the field. Looks impressive. I heard they will be upgrading the stands in the next few years. Does anyone have imput on field improvements at Auroro or Lakeland?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on August 08, 2007, 12:35:07 PM
4 days ladies...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on August 08, 2007, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: mac_5_seven on August 08, 2007, 09:08:31 AM
QuoteAnd we all know mac is going to have a tough year, its no secret that the college is in some serious trouble and needs all the help it can get. Maybe the alumni could donate more money, because hopefully this new president doesnt screw over the college.

Folks have been donating money for years and look where that has gotten the school...  Its not the fact that alumni aren't donating, its the fact of where that money is going.  I think to everyone on this board its pretty clear that not much of it flows back into the athletic department or facilities. 

I truely believe Mac will climb back out ot the hole they're stuck in right now.  Either that or become the new home for the J-Ville looney bin..

Catch 22 - Cancer causing agents in Blackstock?  I'm a goner......

Most of the folks that have been donating money lately have donted them to certain projects, not just to the college in general.  there are times when they donate the money to projects that need less money compared to others.  when they donate the money like that, there is really nothing the college can do except use the money for the project that doner wants.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on August 09, 2007, 10:09:53 AM
QuoteMost of the folks that have been donating money lately have donted them to certain projects, not just to the college in general.  there are times when they donate the money to projects that need less money compared to others.  when they donate the money like that, there is really nothing the college can do except use the money for the project that doner wants.

You're talking about the larger projects like the music center or the football field.  There is still a sizeable amount of funds collected through the general alumni donation efforts (e.g. phone-a-thon, those letters I seem to get a couple of times a month, etc.) of which the school only allows a small a portion to designated by the donor to a specific department not a sport.  Unless things have changed in the past year or so, I don't believe a person can donate $10K and say that I want this to specifically go towards buying the football team new uniforms or whatever.  I could be a complete jackass and not realize this is how it works everywhere, but if I want to donate some jack I want it to go to where I want it to go.  I believe I made well enough of a general "donation" while paying tuition for 4 years..

With that said, I agree that CUW has to be the early favorite in the conference right now.  Have to beat the man to be the man..

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on August 09, 2007, 11:09:40 PM
2 days ladies.....I mean Fartcus...

BOOM
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 10, 2007, 08:29:10 AM
While there is a lull in the action, here is a bit of trivia.
    Who was on the MacMurray Football staff as a coach of the wide receivers in 1994 and who is currently the wide receivers coach at the
  university of Florida?   
     
     Billy Gonzales....that`s who. 
     Maddog, if your looking, you guessed wrong!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on August 10, 2007, 09:25:31 AM
QuoteWhile there is a lull in the action, here is a bit of trivia.
    Who was on the MacMurray Football staff as a coach of the wide receivers in 1994 and who is currently the wide receivers coach at the
  university of Florida?  
    
     Billy Gonzales....that`s who. 
     Maddog, if your looking, you guessed wrong!

I remember when Big Mike Hensley scored him as a grad assistant, it was my sophomore year.  I didn't realize that Urban Meyer was his position coach at Colorado St.  No wonder he's followed him around where ever he's been...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 10, 2007, 11:13:27 AM
Mac_5-

Of course you can designate where you want YOUR money to go.  In a few years if I want to donate $5,000 to CUCs football team they aren't going to say no.  If you have the money you can tell them where you want it to go.

Just a few years ago someone danated a whole bunch of money to redo the lounges in one of the dorm buildings, and that's the only place they wanted the money to go to.

If I have the money, I have the power to designate where I want it to go.

Tomorrow, get excited Fartcus
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on August 10, 2007, 01:25:52 PM
QuoteMac_5-

Of course you can designate where you want YOUR money to go.  In a few years if I want to donate $5,000 to CUCs football team they aren't going to say no.  If you have the money you can tell them where you want it to go.

Just a few years ago someone danated a whole bunch of money to redo the lounges in one of the dorm buildings, and that's the only place they wanted the money to go to.

If I have the money, I have the power to designate where I want it to go.

Tomorrow, get excited Fartcus

That's good for you guys, not the case at Mac...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on August 10, 2007, 05:44:43 PM
Quote from: mac_5_seven on August 10, 2007, 01:25:52 PM
QuoteMac_5-

Of course you can designate where you want YOUR money to go.  In a few years if I want to donate $5,000 to CUCs football team they aren't going to say no.  If you have the money you can tell them where you want it to go.

Just a few years ago someone danated a whole bunch of money to redo the lounges in one of the dorm buildings, and that's the only place they wanted the money to go to.

If I have the money, I have the power to designate where I want it to go.

Tomorrow, get excited Fartcus

That's good for you guys, not the case at Mac...

While most schools will try for a reasonable accomodation to donors' wishes, few if any schools will totally cede their spending prerogatives.  They may well allow for 'categorical' choices, but really specific wishes will likely only be granted if they had planned on doing that anyway.  (And even then, money is fungible - YOUR donation may go to 'X', but a similar amount will be deducted from X's budget to be spent where the school saw fit.)

Of course, for all but a handful of REALLY wealthy and/or committed schools, all that goes out the window for a REALLY generous donor, but you'd better be talking at least 7 or 8 digits, not 4! ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 11, 2007, 12:34:31 AM
Hey boys and wanna be girls! i am back for football season. as i ease into some discussions just thought that you all should know that CUC is gitting a huge Cougar statue right by the field!!!!!!!! just a little tit bit of info for you all!!! rumor has it that it was a cool 5=7000 for the nice little animal! Lets see if this new attraction will bring even more success then last season for cuc! Oh, and Marcus and Cougswillwin, hope to be hearing and seeing a lot of you this season! hahaha
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 11, 2007, 12:46:46 AM
It still think a real cougar would be way better!!! like the LSU tiger, it could be the CUC cougar!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 11, 2007, 08:42:07 AM
7400West;

Great Idea on the live cougar. That would be the best mascot in D3. Good Luck to everyone's team this year. Let's hope for no serious injuries in this the last season for the IBFC.

Who is everyone scrimmaging this year. I know Lakeland is scrimmaging Elmhurst at Elmhurst and Aurora is scrimmaging Loras at Loras. What about everyone else?

Again Good Luck to everyone's team this year. IMO it will be very interesting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 11, 2007, 04:00:08 PM
Damn 7400, can't wait to see that thing on September 8th....FIRST HOME GAME!!!!

Can't wait to watch you guys this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 12, 2007, 02:53:14 AM
Quote from: Genius on August 07, 2007, 12:03:50 PM
Marcus,

YOU SAID: The D-coord for CUC last year was not a "top-notch" D-coord and that was his first stint at anything on defense.
  I really don't want to bash the guy because from what I noticed when I met him, he was an all-around good guy. However, when an offense puts up 41 points, it should be a W for that team.

The problem with your comments is the implication is that the players on CUC defense was good but it was the coach who held them back. CUC had one of the slowest defenses in the conference. The LBs were very bad. The coach may not have been good but for anyone with a little know about football (outside of CUC) will agree that the players on the field were not good. Tony Dungy wouldn't have one more than 1 game with those players.

The one thing that has always struck me in football chat rooms is everybody has a good team and it is always some thing or someone else that keeps them from winning. Not one person ever takes responsibility for their losses and say "we sucked and need to get better."

we say it all the time, but how much fun is that!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 12, 2007, 03:01:22 AM


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CUC received all new weight lifting equipment for their weightroom and from what I hear, it is very nice stuff. Also, the supposed rumor is that they will be tearing down the Geisman Gym and rebuilding a whole new complex either by year 2010 or starting 2010, I cannot remember exactly. This money was donated by the grandparents of a past player at CUC or something along those lines.
[/quote]

Ill believe it when I see it!! cuc likes to waste money and I would not be surprised that money goes elsewhere. not to bring up the whole discussion about where donors money goes, but if it is not being built now then that money is possibly being used elsewhere! that being said the new 7,000$$ cougar looks great!! ahahaha(the stand in 4,000) alone!!ahah
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 12, 2007, 03:05:25 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on July 26, 2007, 11:11:33 AM
Pre-Season Div-3 Top 25 poll.
   Con, Wis, came in 43rd. They are listed in teams that also got votes.
    Con, Wis,  has been on a roll of late and it looks like this season will be
    no different.
   With their programs being in good shape, recruiting good athletes
    is made easier.
    Can`t wait for the crowd at Lakeland,AKA...The Baby Cheese Heads, to
    come alive when they find out they didn`t even get (1) vote.
    Lakeland is good for at least one ( and more for sure) "W"  and that`s
   when they beat the snot out of Mac.
       

funny cuz.... I read in another post CUC doing better the Lakeland! I am calling it right NOW CUC beats Lakeland by two touchdowns!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 12, 2007, 03:16:35 AM
Here is A nice little convo that I would like to here some replies!

It seems to me that some schools just have football teams to get people to come to school there. It seems that the field or equipment is old and the budget is thin at some schools, I will dare to say that CUC was like this in the late 90's and maybe up untill last year when Coach Pries took over as head coach. Latly there seems to be alot of changes that could have and should have been made prior to 2006! I also realize that alot of this is due to the hard work a coach puts in to get things done, weather it be lobbying for a bigger budget or making the money he has work for him somehow. I know that the next couple of years at CUC will be better the the Last couple. The school has done an amazing job at taking a more Pro football stance. Pro athletics for that matter. I look at schools like MacMurry, Eureka, and other outside the conf. and ask, why do they have football programs, for the tuitions payments or for the student\athletes to gain? How do you all feel about this???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 12, 2007, 08:46:37 PM
7400 West;

A bold prediction on the Lakeland score! It may be legit but it's on the road and late in the season. Lakeland has several key returnee's back , especially on defense. I beleive they are going to be pretty good at LB and shoulsd have most of their kinks worked out with the new system by that time of the season.  CUC 's defense better  be a whole lot better than I saw last year versus a Aurora team that most of the CUC  posters thought would be no game at all. The CUC defense will also have their hands full with the Greenville Offense this year. They are quick and have a very good QB.  I hope they challenge  all the top teams from a year ago. What's your thoughts  on RHIT and Chicago, 2 of the three non-conference games? They indeed could be a challenge. Good luck to your cougars this year but don't be disappointed if they are about the same as last year. IMO, they will play much better against everyone but their defense might be to big of an anchor to overcome.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 12, 2007, 09:46:56 PM
Agreed, CUCs defense really needs to step it up if they want to have a +.500 record.

None of this giving up 40+ pts/game stuff.

And glad to hear the Cougar looks good.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 13, 2007, 08:44:35 AM
7400West:
     "CUC beats Lakeland by (2) touchdowns."    That would be a major
      up-set .   Looks good and sounds good but never going to happen.
      CUC wins (1) game this season. Maybe (2) if somebody fails to show up.
     They can huff and puff but in the end CUC will do what they do best,
     finish in the bottom quadrant in the IBFC. 
     Past seasons back me up!  You, on the other hand, have enthusiasm on yours and as I`ve said in the past, it would be nice to see CUC have a good season as they are LONG over do. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 13, 2007, 11:55:48 AM
Gomer-

Granted 7400 is a little enthusiastic but you said CUC may barely win 2 games if someone fails to show up. 

What about Blackburn and Eureka?  I think those are 2 games they will easily win, they play hard and stay in their other games who knows right?

80+ players is the most CUC has had in a long time, if ever.  But we shall see in a couple weeks now won't we.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 13, 2007, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 13, 2007, 11:55:48 AM
Gomer-

Granted 7400 is a little enthusiastic but you said CUC may barely win 2 games if someone fails to show up. 

What about Blackburn and Eureka?  I think those are 2 games they will easily win, they play hard and stay in their other games who knows right?

80+ players is the most CUC has had in a long time, if ever.  But we shall see in a couple weeks now won't we.

of those 80+ are athletes, something that cuc has lacked in the past. The last couple days of camp have shown that CUC has some players on the team that can bench and run!!! The team is stronger! the only thing that holds them back is their youth, But coaching will take care of that!! CUC is much better then a One game winning team!!! i still feel that Lakeland will lose by two touchdowns, and I really dont feel I am out of my mind! CUC was one the only conf. team last year to give CUW a run for their money!!! remember!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 13, 2007, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 13, 2007, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 13, 2007, 11:55:48 AM
Gomer-

Granted 7400 is a little enthusiastic but you said CUC may barely win 2 games if someone fails to show up. 

What about Blackburn and Eureka?  I think those are 2 games they will easily win, they play hard and stay in their other games who knows right?

80+ players is the most CUC has had in a long time, if ever.  But we shall see in a couple weeks now won't we.

of those 80+ are athletes, something that cuc has lacked in the past. The last couple days of camp have shown that CUC has some players on the team that can bench and run!!! The team is stronger! the only thing that holds them back is their youth, But coaching will take care of that!! CUC is much better then a One game winning team!!! i still feel that Lakeland will lose by two touchdowns, and I really dont feel I am out of my mind! CUC was one the only conf. team last year to give CUW a run for their money!!! remember!!!!!!


Greenville and CUW went into OT last year. GC got a 7-0 lead in the first quarter and kept it until CUW scored on a pass with less than 5 min in the game.  CUW then won the game in OT with a pass. 


I do think CUC will beat Blackburn, Eureka, & probably MAC this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 13, 2007, 03:30:05 PM
7400West...........baseman201.......... ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 13, 2007, 06:40:10 PM
7400West and Baseman;
Who is CUC scrimmaging this year?

TruCounrty; 
Who is Greenville scimmaging this year? Also who is going to be the LB's this year? Are they new or backups from last year? Is their team speed at the same level or faster than last year? IMO they are the biggest challenge to defeat CUW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 14, 2007, 12:10:41 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 13, 2007, 03:30:05 PM
7400West...........baseman201.......... ;D

i dont get it? hu hu hu!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 14, 2007, 12:13:10 AM
Quote from: old 40 on August 13, 2007, 06:40:10 PM
7400West and Baseman;
Who is CUC scrimmaging this year?

TruCounrty; 
Who is Greenville scimmaging this year? Also who is going to be the LB's this year? Are they new or backups from last year? Is their team speed at the same level or faster than last year? IMO they are the biggest challenge to defeat CUW.

as of now cuc is not scrimmaging anyone, that all could change, but more then likely it there will be no one to scrimmage this year for cuc. but for the most part camp seems to be alot harder and most of the player feel up beat about the season!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on August 14, 2007, 09:21:55 AM
I have heard a rumor that a possible scrimmage for CUC against Harper College is in the works...we will see.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 14, 2007, 09:30:37 AM
Quote from: old 40 on August 13, 2007, 06:40:10 PM
7400West and Baseman;
Who is CUC scrimmaging this year?

TruCounrty; 
Who is Greenville scimmaging this year? Also who is going to be the LB's this year? Are they new or backups from last year? Is their team speed at the same level or faster than last year? IMO they are the biggest challenge to defeat CUW.


I haven't heard who GC is scrimmaging this year. We did scrimmage with Blackburn in the past. The only other college in the area to scrimmage against would be McKendree College and their NAIA.  I would say it will be Blackburn again.   The LB this year to take over for J.R. is up for anybody. J.R  has left some big shoes to fill. 2 players that got alot of good playing time last year and could try to fill the void would be #47 Grant J. from Nebraska a Junior this year, and #42 Ben Holmes a Junior also. Ben was freshman when I left in 05 so he knows the defense and he's a good athlete. GC done great recruiting this year and got some awesome athletes, so I do think the 07 GC team will be faster and with DOM (QB) coming into his Junior year will run the offense even better than last year. I agree with you on GC has the best chance to defeat CUW.  Lakeland, CUW, BU all play at GC this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 14, 2007, 06:15:26 PM
CUC vs. Harper sounds great, I hope it happens, keep me posted Cougswillwin!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 14, 2007, 09:57:30 PM
TruCountry95;

Catching Aurora and Lakeland early is a plus. Lakeland is in transition but I hear have several athletes and good numbers. Aurora has been a slow starter but gets better each week. Getting CUW late is good because in the past they have played better early in the season and fell off a bit towards the end. Good Luck this season with your team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 15, 2007, 04:48:26 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 14, 2007, 12:10:41 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 13, 2007, 03:30:05 PM
7400West...........baseman201.......... ;D

i dont get it? hu hu hu!!!

   Maybe I should have quoted baseman201. "But we will see in a couple of weeks now won`t we."
    "hu hu hu"  I don`t get it!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 15, 2007, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 13, 2007, 03:30:05 PM
7400West...........baseman201.......... ;D

please explain this post!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 15, 2007, 09:39:41 PM
7400-

Don't get carried away here now.  I am an alum of CUC and I want to see them win as badly as you do, but this is another rebuilding year in my opinion.  Lakeland by at least 2 TDs is pushing it, even for a big CUC fan such as myself I can say that.

But, I do think the game will be closer then those of years past.  Win by 2 TDs....probably not, win the game....maybe.

I give them a couple more years before they are a really good team fighting for a conference title.  This year maybe a 4-6 record..... possibly 5-5 if they come out fired up in a couple games.

But as I quoted before, "We will see in a couple weeks now won't we".

Yeah Gomer, I am also curious what that means.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 16, 2007, 12:23:57 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 15, 2007, 09:39:41 PM
7400-

Don't get carried away here now.  I am an alum of CUC and I want to see them win as badly as you do, but this is another rebuilding year in my opinion.  Lakeland by at least 2 TDs is pushing it, even for a big CUC fan such as myself I can say that.

But, I do think the game will be closer then those of years past.  Win by 2 TDs....probably not, win the game....maybe.

I give them a couple more years before they are a really good team fighting for a conference title.  This year maybe a 4-6 record..... possibly 5-5 if they come out fired up in a couple games.

But as I quoted before, "We will see in a couple weeks now won't we".

Yeah Gomer, I am also curious what that means.



if cuc comes to play, it will happen!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 16, 2007, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 15, 2007, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 13, 2007, 03:30:05 PM
7400West...........baseman201.......... ;D

please explain this post!!!!!!!!

  baseman201....7400west: The  ;D  means I`ve enjoyed the give and take.
    Nothing more, nothing less.
 
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 16, 2007, 11:21:18 AM
I figured it meant something like that.

No harm, no foul..... ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on August 16, 2007, 01:57:37 PM
how is AU looking in camp, anyone been by to check them out?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 16, 2007, 02:11:54 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 16, 2007, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 15, 2007, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 13, 2007, 03:30:05 PM
7400West...........baseman201.......... ;D

please explain this post!!!!!!!!

  baseman201....7400west: The  ;D  means I`ve enjoyed the give and take.
    Nothing more, nothing less.
 
 
 

i c i .
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 16, 2007, 03:50:51 PM
So on the front page is says that an Illinois school got 3 Texas transfers.

What school is this?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 16, 2007, 03:56:59 PM
Buy Kickoff and find out. Duh. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 16, 2007, 09:29:04 PM
I am sure Cougswillwin will get a kick out of the display name. :P Anyways, everything is sounding good in Cougarland. Supposed rumors of scrimmaging Harper College (which is a Community College but one of the best at that...). Looking forward to watching a great year for the Cougars. The comment about the Cougars winning 1, maybe 2 games if a team doesn't show up...ouch. Too bad that won't be true. Other than that, I am not saying a thing or giving anything up of the Cougar team...watch for yourselves as the season goes along and be surprised.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on August 17, 2007, 09:19:15 AM
Yeah......Hes right.


Fartcus Smellwood.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 17, 2007, 11:41:03 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 16, 2007, 03:50:51 PM
So on the front page is says that an Illinois school got 3 Texas transfers.

What school is this?


I saw that to and got to thinking about it.....
*Let's see there's 21 D3 football schools in Illinois.
*I would say we can count out our 6 IBC Illinois schools, because someone would have least heard something about it by now and nobody has said anything.  Although Fatal hasn't said anything about Aurora, but for safe measure I'm going to say the 3 transfers didn't transfer to our conf.
* So with our 6 schools out of the running that leaves 15 Illinois schools those Texas students transferred too. 
* Now take away the 7 schools that didn't post winning records last year. I highly doubt 3 transfers from Texas are going to play for losing teams in Illinois. By losing I mean those 7 schools had a combined record of  16-52. Those schools, Blackburn, Chicago, Ill Wesleyan, Knox, Milikin, North Park, & Principia.
* No we have 8 schools that had a winning record last year these students could of transferred too.  Augustana, Elmhurst, Illinois College, Lake Forest (5-5), Monmouth, North Central, Rockford, & Wheaton.   

* Any guesses?   3 Transfers from Texas?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on August 17, 2007, 11:58:15 AM
New to the board- But my guess is the transfers would go to Wheaton or Augustana, as they have pulled from the south before.

And to Tru- I have heard Greenville has 102 men in camp and will scrimage
Milikin this next Thursday.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 17, 2007, 12:55:46 PM
I knew GC had alot come out over 100 but didn't know about Milikin scrimmage. That's awesome, better than scrimmaging against Blackburn. Decator is about 2 hours away from GC.  Time, you from Southern Illinois also?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on August 17, 2007, 02:57:00 PM
Tru- I am from Central/Northern part. But just love football. And know lots of people that go to Greenville. And their team caught my attention as an up and comer a couple years ago.  I think the conf. has a lot of teams moving in the right direction though. 

Can't wait until kick off time. Plan on going to several games.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 17, 2007, 04:13:36 PM
Tru-

Wow, you really thought about the transfers from Texas, pretty sweet logic behind that.

My first thought was Wheaton, so I went to the Wheaton website to look around cause they may have something about that, but I found nothing.

And I live in Davenport (right across the river from Augustana) and saw nothing in the papers about it, so I think you can take out Augustana as well.

But you never know who it may be, jeez it could be Benedictine and they are just keeping quiet about it.

My money is on Wheaton.

To get 3 Transfers from the University of Texas is pretty big....no matter what pisition they are.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2007, 04:17:59 PM
Here`s one for all you Cougar fans. I didn`t believe it even when i read it!
   Guess what team was the  Conference Champions  in 1983 and 1987?
    Your Cougars that`s who. Back then the school was  called Concordia,Il.
    Now it`s called Concordia U of Chicago.........as you all know.
    The source: Answers.com 
   How come none of you Cougar "believers" know anything about football
    history at CUC ? 
    I guess it`s more fun to babble then do any research. 
    Cougars lose by more than 4TD`s to Lakeland or maybe LC gives them
    a beat-down like they did to Mac a few years ago. 
    Course, if you guys ( believers) are correct and CUC is back then that
   won`t happen and like 7400West said, " CUC takes LC by 2 TD`s.
   I wish the Cougare well...really!
   
   
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2007, 04:25:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 16, 2007, 03:56:59 PM
Buy Kickoff and find out. Duh. :)

  Guys, Pat told you where to find that information .  All you have to do is pony up the money to buy Kickoff and your good to go.
   Your doing some nice detective work but you get no cigar for your efforts.
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 17, 2007, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2007, 04:17:59 PM
Here`s one for all you Cougar fans. I didn`t believe it even when i read it!
   Guess what team was the  Conference Champions  in 1983 and 1987?
    Your Cougars that`s who. Back then the school was  called Concordia,Il.
    Now it`s called Concordia U of Chicago.........as you all know.
    The source: Answers.com 
   How come none of you Cougar "believers" know anything about football
    history at CUC ? 
    I guess it`s more fun to babble then do any research. 
    Cougars lose by more than 4TD`s to Lakeland or maybe LC gives them
    a beat-down like they did to Mac a few years ago. 
    Course, if you guys ( believers) are correct and CUC is back then that
   won`t happen and like 7400West said, " CUC takes LC by 2 TD`s.
   I wish the Cougare well...really!
   
   
   
   
   
   

you might be good a research but suck at predictions!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2007, 08:08:06 PM
I never said three transfers from the University of Texas, folks. Texas is a state.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 17, 2007, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2007, 04:17:59 PM
Here`s one for all you Cougar fans. I didn`t believe it even when i read it!
   Guess what team was the  Conference Champions  in 1983 and 1987?
    Your Cougars that`s who. Back then the school was  called Concordia,Il.
    Now it`s called Concordia U of Chicago.........as you all know.
    The source: Answers.com 
   How come none of you Cougar "believers" know anything about football
    history at CUC ? 
    I guess it`s more fun to babble then do any research. 
    Cougars lose by more than 4TD`s to Lakeland or maybe LC gives them
    a beat-down like they did to Mac a few years ago. 
    Course, if you guys ( believers) are correct and CUC is back then that
   won`t happen and like 7400West said, " CUC takes LC by 2 TD`s.
   I wish the Cougare well...really!
   
   
   
   
   
   

I am sure that I can diddle daddle on the computer and find alot of things out! and what does the 83, 87 cougars have to do with the 2007 cougars????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 18, 2007, 08:55:30 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2007, 08:08:06 PM
I never said three transfers from the University of Texas, folks. Texas is a state.

And transfers are not always good on the field or off the field.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on August 18, 2007, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 17, 2007, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2007, 04:17:59 PM
Here`s one for all you Cougar fans. I didn`t believe it even when i read it!
   Guess what team was the  Conference Champions  in 1983 and 1987?
    Your Cougars that`s who. Back then the school was  called Concordia,Il.
    Now it`s called Concordia U of Chicago.........as you all know.
    The source: Answers.com 
   How come none of you Cougar "believers" know anything about football
    history at CUC ? 
    I guess it`s more fun to babble then do any research. 
    Cougars lose by more than 4TD`s to Lakeland or maybe LC gives them
    a beat-down like they did to Mac a few years ago. 
    Course, if you guys ( believers) are correct and CUC is back then that
   won`t happen and like 7400West said, " CUC takes LC by 2 TD`s.
   I wish the Cougare well...really!
   
   
   
   
   
   

you might be good a research but suck at predictions!!!

His predictions are a lot better than yours. Lakeland I can confirm and will beat CUC by at least 4touchdowns.. They have way to many players coming back... they will shut out majority of the teams in the conference by far the best defense in the conference this year..  They have the best QB/WR tandom back as well on offense. They lost a coach who obviously did not care about them. I hear everything is coming together great at the Muskies Camp.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on August 18, 2007, 10:50:14 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 13, 2007, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 13, 2007, 11:55:48 AM
Gomer-

Granted 7400 is a little enthusiastic but you said CUC may barely win 2 games if someone fails to show up. 

What about Blackburn and Eureka?  I think those are 2 games they will easily win, they play hard and stay in their other games who knows right?

80+ players is the most CUC has had in a long time, if ever.  But we shall see in a couple weeks now won't we.

of those 80+ are athletes, something that cuc has lacked in the past. The last couple days of camp have shown that CUC has some players on the team that can bench and run!!! The team is stronger! the only thing that holds them back is their youth, But coaching will take care of that!! CUC is much better then a One game winning team!!! i still feel that Lakeland will lose by two touchdowns, and I really dont feel I am out of my mind! CUC was one the only conf. team last year to give CUW a run for their money!!! remember!!!!!!

Lakeland has +90 athletes and everyone can run and bench press omg this calculates to wins wins I tell you. What on earth you mean by bench press, you really dont want me to go dropping lakelands bench numbers you will get embaressed.  The day a bench press adds up to Beating a more dominate team than you by 2TDS, my teams will never leave the weight room and suit up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 18, 2007, 11:29:17 AM
Mad Frog;
Good points but strength is only one key part of dominating teams. Strength is great as long as it goes with speed and endurance. IMO, if a team is superior in these three aspects then it will be a bad day for the opponent.

I agree that many people will overlook Lakeland this year because of the transition but they have some athletes and some speed so they will be competitive. I think Lakeland Greenville, Aurora and Benedictine will give CUW all they want and then some. The other teams in the league will have to prove they belong by knocking off one of the 5. I do think CUC will get someone this year especially if their opponent is not ready to play them. This would be a big step for them this year.

Maddog;
The Lakeland QB is good but I don't know if he is the best in the league at this stage of the year. Greenville and CUC have QB's with alot of skill. I would say going into the season they are the top 3 QB's. They may have the best threee receivers, certainly the tallest, at 6'6'', 6'4", 6'3". If a roundball game breaks out they should be OK.

I hope everyone has purchased the Preview. A small price to support D3football.

Good Luck to everyones teams this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 18, 2007, 05:55:17 PM
well..Madfrog.

Cuc has got 70+ and i am sure alot of teams have more then 11 but i might be mistaken but I thought football teams could only play 11 players at a time?????? I could be wrong! With coachs like Big cat williams and stronger OL it will be alot closer then a  td blow out like you and other think, CUC will win by two td's!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on August 18, 2007, 06:00:03 PM
Gomer...We all knew about our '83 and '87 teams...thanks for the reminder though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on August 19, 2007, 09:39:58 PM
Coaches' Preseason Poll 2007

1. Concordia University Wisconsin
2. Greenville
3. Lakeland
4. Aurora
5. Benedictine
6. Concordia Univeristy Chicago
7. Eureka
8. MacMurray

Coaches' Preseason Top 10 Players to Watch 2007

1. Mac Arthur White (Lakeland)
2. Dominic Kegel (Greenville)
3. Wilbur Allen (CUW)
4. Brad Wilk (Lakeland)
5. Marcus Goedken (Aurora)
6. Jon Wagner (Lakeland)
7. Nick Drabek (CUW)
8. Justin Grant (Greenville)
9. Nate Robinson (MacMurray), Adam Kloskey (CUW)
10. Nick Lindsey (Eureka)
http://www.illinibadger.org/
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 19, 2007, 10:13:41 PM
Quote from: madfrog on August 19, 2007, 09:39:58 PM
Coaches' Preseason Poll 2007

1. Concordia University Wisconsin
2. Greenville
3. Lakeland
4. Aurora
5. Benedictine
6. Concordia Univeristy Chicago
7. Eureka
8. MacMurray

Coaches' Preseason Top 10 Players to Watch 2007

1. Mac Arthur White (Lakeland)
2. Dominic Kegel (Greenville)
3. Wilbur Allen (CUW)
4. Brad Wilk (Lakeland)
5. Marcus Goedken (Aurora)
6. Jon Wagner (Lakeland)
7. Nick Drabek (CUW)
8. Justin Grant (Greenville)
9. Nate Robinson (MacMurray), Adam Kloskey (CUW)
10. Nick Lindsey (Eureka)
http://www.illinibadger.org/

CUC will be better then that!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on August 19, 2007, 10:26:39 PM
Prove it....That preseason poll seems to not really flow....Honestly thats an improvement 7400 you should be content.....AU will finish at the top as they always do who will join them we shall see....GC? CUW? would be my guess...4th my butt
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 20, 2007, 12:00:29 AM
Gomer, thanks for your moronic post....it was helpful to remind us Cougar fans of when Concordia was conference champs. Like someone previously said, what does 1983 and 1987 have to do with anything??? Why does everyone take CUC out of the mix of beating the Conference Champs of last year when they were 1 of the 3 teams that kept it close? I am glad everyone has an opinion, thats what this board is for obviously. Why should a fan of the Cougars be content with being looked at as finishing in 6th? Oh wait, I forgot... ::) their past is horrible. CUC probably had the most freshmen starting in all conference games last year and kept it close in some games. Being 18 and being 19-22 plays a big difference in college ball. 1-3 more year of experience at the college level is a big difference. Give the players some credit and be ready for a great year at Concordia University of Chicago.

PS the Lakeland vs CUC game will be a great game...the best thing about this season is watching those turds get squashed by Whitewater...I know we are supposed to be proud of our conference but it is always fun to watch them get a taste of their own medicine. :P

Everyone have a wonderful day and....

GO COUGARS
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on August 20, 2007, 02:25:29 AM
for a team that hasn't won but a few games in the last upteen years- CUC certainly is a main topic on this board. It probably is one of the few football chat rooms where the worst teams get the most print than the top teams.

Fartcus, just because you a player is young doesn't mean he has good potential. Unfortunately many players for CUC don't have a lot of talent. So although they will get better as they grow I suspect the roster will still need massive overhaul to really compete.

Not many talented players go to bad football programs. There is a reason players go to CUC instead of a CCIW school. Because they aren't good enough for the CCIW schools.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 20, 2007, 04:00:47 AM
Genius...you ae not!!

I disagree, Players go to all diffrent schools for all diffrent reasons, the CCIW is nothing to brag about! Elmhurst, CUC and the Benies all compete for the same players in the off season, I know because I would always hear their names when I would be recurting them!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 20, 2007, 07:28:01 AM
what does keeping a game close have to do with anything.  Who cares if a team can keep it closer.  Some teams take risks to win and the score becomes more lopsided.  Some teams play it tight to save face.  You either win or lose.

Weight room numbers...whoopee!  I can take the best powerlifters in the world and suck on the field.  Speed and talent with a solid O-line will win.  There is very little overall speed and very few teams have solid o-lines.  Look at the winners the last few years and you see 1-2 players with speed and a good o-line.

As far as former pros being coaches....many top athletes did not have to rely on the basics.  they were way to athletic, had the ability to learn quick etc.  Does not mean they can teach and coach.  So forget the hype on ex-NFL players coaching.

One poster mentioned recruiting but spelled recruiting wrong.  Speaks well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 20, 2007, 09:48:56 AM
7400West:
   " you might be good at research but suck at predictions."
      If the game was over and CUC had beaten Lakeland you would be correct but........ It`s not and they haven`t so my  prognostication is still
      valid.   
    As baseman201 said, (para-phase) TIME WILL TELL. 
   
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 20, 2007, 10:04:11 AM
7400West:
    "the 83,87 Cougars have to do with the 2007 Cougars?  ???"

    Nothing!  First off they were Conference Champs.  Secondly, to keep it in context, I mentioned them  only to show that at one time CUC had some
   solid football teams which was evident in those championships.  I was giving them props. 
    You couldn`t figure that out? ???
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 20, 2007, 10:22:42 AM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on August 18, 2007, 06:00:03 PM
Gomer...We all knew about our '83 and '87 teams...thanks for the reminder though.

I had no idea CUC had ever won a championship.  I really just posted it
   as a "did you know" type of thing. 
  As you said," we all knew"  but i venture to say not everbody. That`s not ment to start  anything but after reading some of the stuff on here  nobody
   has ever given CUC props for their past football history.     
   The last 20 years has been bleak to say the least so I understand the excitement for this season when CUC believers are looking for good things to come. 
   Who knows maybe this is the season CUC turns the corner....
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 20, 2007, 10:47:29 AM
Fartcus Smellwood:
  What does your statement about "kept it close", referring to last years game, have to do with this year?  Talk about moronic or were you trying to show some history?   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 20, 2007, 11:46:44 AM
Did anyone catch any scrimmages this weekend?  I would imagine evryone had a intrasquad srcimmage. Anyone look good?

Aurora looks like they will be very stong on the defensive side of the ball. QB and receivers looks to be a question marks.

This coming weekend will give everyone a good idea on where they stack up with scrimmages against other teams. The CUW and Carthage should be a strong hitting and running test for each team. Does anyone know when that scrimmage is? Also who is Benedictine scrimmaging? Where and what time?

I see GC scrimmages Milikin. I think GC will get the best of them. Too much speed.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 20, 2007, 11:48:55 AM
I hope everyone signs up for the D3 preview out today.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 20, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
I think the coaches poll is right on the money.

No matter how much I hate to say it, Lakeland won't be a pushover because of all the coaching changes.  And like I said before, I want CUC to do well this year more then anyone, but it may be a few years before they can get Lakeland by 2 TDs.

But right now all speculation, won't find out until September 1st.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 20, 2007, 01:50:43 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 20, 2007, 10:04:11 AM
7400West:
    "the 83,87 Cougars have to do with the 2007 Cougars?  ???"

    Nothing!  First off they were Conference Champs.  Secondly, to keep it in context, I mentioned them  only to show that at one time CUC had some
   solid football teams which was evident in those championships.  I was giving them props. 
    You couldn`t figure that out? ???
   
   
   

when you are giving someone probs, dont insult them by adding something along the lines of CUC fans not knowing about it!!! it takes away fromthe whole positive vibe you are trying to send.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 20, 2007, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 20, 2007, 07:28:01 AM
what does keeping a game close have to do with anything.  Who cares if a team can keep it closer.  Some teams take risks to win and the score becomes more lopsided.  Some teams play it tight to save face.  You either win or lose.

Weight room numbers...whoopee!  I can take the best powerlifters in the world and suck on the field.  Speed and talent with a solid O-line will win.  There is very little overall speed and very few teams have solid o-lines.  Look at the winners the last few years and you see 1-2 players with speed and a good o-line.

As far as former pros being coaches....many top athletes did not have to rely on the basics.  they were way to athletic, had the ability to learn quick etc.  Does not mean they can teach and coach.  So forget the hype on ex-NFL players coaching.

One poster mentioned recruiting but spelled recruiting wrong.  Speaks well.

Rusty, everything about weightlifting numbers are positive things that players, former players, and coaches are seeing out of CUC team that has had a troubled past. Everything that Coach Pries and his staff has done thus far, has in some way worked out one way or another. CUC beating Lakeland by two td's in not something that cannot happen, it can! By me saying it will, just shows how excited I am about football at my school!
also, if you dont like my spelling give me some negative karma and see if i care! ahahahahha
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 20, 2007, 02:17:00 PM
7400West:  That was ment for everybody not just the CUC believers. Plus, that was a (2) part comment.   As you say, " couldn`t you figure that out?"
  For the second part you call it an insult because as you said,"...... of CU-C fans not knowing about it"
   Did you not read into what I said as maybe speaking to "others"  as in
   visitors, other schools, etc?
   Not everybody on here knows what happened 20 odd years ago. If you knew it, I wasn`t talking to you or anybody else who was aware of it.
  That should clear that up.  All of that said with a smile.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 20, 2007, 02:44:12 PM
Quote from: madfrog on August 19, 2007, 09:39:58 PM
Coaches' Preseason Poll 2007

1. Concordia University Wisconsin
2. Greenville
3. Lakeland
4. Aurora
5. Benedictine
6. Concordia Univeristy Chicago
7. Eureka
8. MacMurray

Coaches' Preseason Top 10 Players to Watch 2007

1. Mac Arthur White (Lakeland)
2. Dominic Kegel (Greenville)
3. Wilbur Allen (CUW)
4. Brad Wilk (Lakeland)
5. Marcus Goedken (Aurora)
6. Jon Wagner (Lakeland)
7. Nick Drabek (CUW)
8. Justin Grant (Greenville)
9. Nate Robinson (MacMurray), Adam Kloskey (CUW)
10. Nick Lindsey (Eureka)
http://www.illinibadger.org/


This pretty much right.  It's going to be a battle this year.   Also looking at the players to watch Dominic Kegel QB from Greenville.  Dom is the real deal. He led his team to a 2nd place finish in State in Washington. Also Dom participated in the Barton Camps. Barton Camp is a camp the host the best skilled players and lineman in the Northwest area. QB's that have particpated in the Barton Camp in the past - Kellen Clemens (University of Oregon -NFL) Joey Harrington (University of Oregon -NFL) Aaron Rogers (University of California - NFL) Garrett Hanson ( Linfield).

This season should be a break out season for Dominic. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 20, 2007, 04:13:09 PM
TruCountry95

IMO he had a breakout year last year. I saw him against Aurora and was very impressed. I hope they use him more as a passer than a runner. GC, CUC, and  Lakeland have the most proven QB's. They should be the statisical leaders in the conference. Did you see GC scrimmage? Your thoughts.

7400West

That's the way to keep backing your team. In the past,IMO, CUC did not have many supporters that spoke out like you did. Programs need the support going up and also going down. I think your cougars are going up. But like I said before a step at a time. Keep up the support.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 20, 2007, 04:15:38 PM
TruCountry95

I forgot to add that I think the IBFC preseason rankings should have 3,4,5  tied. IMO they are all about the same.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 20, 2007, 05:41:02 PM
Everyone has to get the D#Preview. You will never guess who got the 3 Texas transfers. They better be world beaters or its the same old story for this team. I don't agree with the rankings. Lakeland is too high on their projections and CUW is to low,IMO.

It's only 8.95 and helps keep this site running.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 20, 2007, 11:18:23 PM
Genius, I don't need to hear anything from you because a ways back you tried to state that Benedictine was one of the top teams. HAHAHA....just stop. And if you want I will take my time to dig up the post. Anyways, Gomer...there were people talking about who kept it close to the Conf. Champs of last year a little back and I thought I would give the Cougars some props...I know its not just about keeping the game close. Trust me, I was at the game and those players gave it all they had. A simple onside kick was touched by a CUC player and knocked out of bounds giving CUW the ball back up by 4 and running the clock down and scoring one more time....I think that is signs of a team trying to win. And I believe that even if CUC did beat BUW last year, people would still be talking major crap about the players. Thats all this board does is bash people who support their teams and it is constantly shown when 7400West talks good about his team and is enthusiastic about this season and everyone attacks him. The way I see it is at least CUC has supporters on the board. They will improve more this year and they will beat teams you guys all think they won't.

Have a wonderful day.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 21, 2007, 01:32:51 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 20, 2007, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 20, 2007, 07:28:01 AM
what does keeping a game close have to do with anything.  Who cares if a team can keep it closer.  Some teams take risks to win and the score becomes more lopsided.  Some teams play it tight to save face.  You either win or lose.

Weight room numbers...whoopee!  I can take the best powerlifters in the world and suck on the field.  Speed and talent with a solid O-line will win.  There is very little overall speed and very few teams have solid o-lines.  Look at the winners the last few years and you see 1-2 players with speed and a good o-line.

As far as former pros being coaches....many top athletes did not have to rely on the basics.  they were way to athletic, had the ability to learn quick etc.  Does not mean they can teach and coach.  So forget the hype on ex-NFL players coaching.

One poster mentioned recruiting but spelled recruiting wrong.  Speaks well.

Rusty, everything about weightlifting numbers are positive things that players, former players, and coaches are seeing out of CUC team that has had a troubled past. Everything that Coach Pries and his staff has done thus far, has in some way worked out one way or another. CUC beating Lakeland by two td's in not something that cannot happen, it can! By me saying it will, just shows how excited I am about football at my school!
also, if you dont like my spelling give me some negative karma and see if i care! ahahahahha

I did not address one team or another on the post about weightlifting numbers.  People have posted about them for years.  My point is so what...I am sure that all teams are having more athletes train hard and produce better numbers.  Achieving personal bench, clean, deadlifting marks are easy as compared to the ability to perform on the field.  If I had a dollar for every reference to a bench press or 40 time.  Usually the two biggest lies in football. 

Discuss offense, defense , special teams, talent, the ability to play football.  Elevate the level of the discussion to more than talking points.  We sound somewhere between used car salesman and presidential canditates.  Who are some of the players to watch.  What can we expect offensively, defensively?  Generic posts about players working hard and coach is moving in the right direction... okay we get it.  Any team can beat any team on any given saturday....  okay we get it.  Lets talk match-ups.  Why do you believe CUC will beat Lakeland.  Being positive and fired up etc do not aid the discussion.  Is the D-line going to be ready for the regular big-talented o-lines that the Wisconsin schools bring to the table.  Lakelands Qb... how will a new head coach work with him and how will CUC look to counter. Game - home or away... or does it matter. Discuss the game... this a football board. 

As for spelling... you mentioned recruiting... sometimes important when dealing with people interested in e-d-u-ma-cation.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 21, 2007, 07:51:27 PM
Quote from: madfrog on August 19, 2007, 09:39:58 PM
Coaches' Preseason Poll 2007

1. Concordia University Wisconsin
2. Greenville
3. Lakeland
4. Aurora
5. Benedictine
6. Concordia Univeristy Chicago
7. Eureka
8. MacMurray

Coaches' Preseason Top 10 Players to Watch 2007

1. Mac Arthur White (Lakeland)
2. Dominic Kegel (Greenville)
3. Wilbur Allen (CUW)
4. Brad Wilk (Lakeland)
5. Marcus Goedken (Aurora)
6. Jon Wagner (Lakeland)
7. Nick Drabek (CUW)
8. Justin Grant (Greenville)
9. Nate Robinson (MacMurray), Adam Kloskey (CUW)
10. Nick Lindsey (Eureka)
http://www.illinibadger.org/

Madefrog, you got the idea!! but I like CUC over Ben!! I have Cuc beating Lakeland, but have to agree that Lakeland dispite the offseason troubles will have a good year! As for players to watch, Jason Weeks QB will have a year under his belt with the same O Cord. and as a starter! Last year he had glimpses of greatness and now get to show how much he improved. Also, how about the OL, Klopke and Yerkes will lead an OL that has been better coach then in the past, Yerkes is a converted TE that has a whole year of OL under his belt as well, he also hit the weightroom this year, Klopke is a center that can shotgun and snap very well, he is level headed and consistent, making the rest of the OL better! As for the D, that will have to wait, i dont know much about them yet!!

Oh and Fartus and rusty...you two are fighting for the funniest name!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 21, 2007, 09:10:30 PM
yeah, if CUCs O-line can get it together this year everyone better watch out.

Actually 7400, defense wise CUC is looking pretty good this year, got some good transfer talent in from Florida at the LB position.

All in all their defense will be a huge upgrade from last year.

Which has been an issue the past few years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on August 21, 2007, 10:57:52 PM
Seriously, can we please hear about something other than CUC.  no offense, im glad your excited about this years CUC team, but what about other teams.  howq is lakeland doing with their new coach. any cword on their camp status
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 21, 2007, 11:31:46 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on August 20, 2007, 02:44:12 PMAlso looking at the players to watch Dominic Kegel QB from Greenville.  Dom is the real deal. He led his team to a 2nd place finish in State in Washington. Also Dom participated in the Barton Camps. Barton Camp is a camp the host the best skilled players and lineman in the Northwest area.

Is he related to Matt, the WSU QB who had the unfortunate role of succeeding Jason Gesser?

Sounds like yes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 21, 2007, 11:34:35 PM
Quote from: old 40 on August 20, 2007, 05:41:02 PM
Everyone has to get the D#Preview. You will never guess who got the 3 Texas transfers. They better be world beaters or its the same old story for this team. I don't agree with the rankings. Lakeland is too high on their projections and CUW is to low,IMO.

It's only 8.95 and helps keep this site running.

Yeah, what he said.  ;D

We would really love to find a local writer who covers IBFC during the year, if there are any. We have had to absorb the conference with D3 staff all three years of Kickoff, which ensures you get as much attention as other conferences, but it would be great to have someone with journalism skills and that local, intimate knowledge of the schools, programs and teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 21, 2007, 11:34:59 PM
If you think of someone, PM me or send e-mail to Keith@D3football.com
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 22, 2007, 12:43:05 AM
So then let's here someone talk about another school.

Eureka, Benedictine and CUW people have pretty much been nonexistent on this board.  If you have something to say, say it.  Or else the CUC people will keep talking about CUC.

So let's here some things.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 22, 2007, 03:03:22 AM
Quote from: NCAA Football on August 21, 2007, 10:57:52 PM
Seriously, can we please hear about something other than CUC.  no offense, im glad your excited about this years CUC team, but what about other teams.  howq is lakeland doing with their new coach. any cword on their camp status

Is that CUC's Problem, I kind of feel the same way, where are all the other schools? But that is not going to stop me from posting!

I've got an idea, why do you, NCAA Football, buy the 10 doller kick off scam thing and tell us about lakeland yourself!!!

That reminds me...someone tell my why I should spend 10 or 5 bucks on that thing??????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 22, 2007, 03:11:33 AM
"Discuss offense, defense , special teams, talent, the ability to play football.  Elevate the level of the discussion to more than talking points.  We sound somewhere between used car salesman and presidential canditates.  Who are some of the players to watch.  What can we expect offensively, defensively?  Generic posts about players working hard and coach is moving in the right direction... okay we get it.  Any team can beat any team on any given saturday....  okay we get it.  Lets talk match-ups.  Why do you believe CUC will beat Lakeland.  Being positive and fired up etc do not aid the discussion.  Is the D-line going to be ready for the regular big-talented o-lines that the Wisconsin schools bring to the table.  Lakelands Qb... how will a new head coach work with him and how will CUC look to counter. Game - home or away... or does it matter. Discuss the game... this a football board. "

This is where I wish CUC had a preseason game, but they dont. I know what you are saying and I wish I had some info to add, But as it is now CUC is in camp and I have not seen them in a game yet, so feel it would be to early to start talking about their DL and how good it is! I wish I had the funding or lack of a job so I could travel to Lakeland, CUW, and fly to Greenville then spent the afternoon at BU and head over  to CUC, but I can't! I have to wait like most people and see the results of a game then read about it, weather it be in the paper or online at the schools web site.
I do know that CUC has some athletic guys from flordia, But I cannot comment about them, I spoke about Weeks, Yerkes, and Klopke becasue They are all upperclass and I have seen them develope over the years.

I can also tell you that CUC's OL will not be like years past, they are better coached and stronger. Also rumor has it that CUC's running back is a stud! I cant wait till next sat! Too bad they play Blackburn away, I'm going to try and go, but who the hell know where blackburn is! hahaha
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Goal Line Stand on August 22, 2007, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 22, 2007, 03:03:22 AM

That reminds me...someone tell my why I should spend 10 or 5 bucks on that thing??????

Because you might learn something about D-3 football beyond your favorite team or conference but the most important reason would be that the nominal price of $8.95 helps to support this site that you seem to enjoy using so much on a regular basis.   ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 22, 2007, 09:43:54 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on August 21, 2007, 11:31:46 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on August 20, 2007, 02:44:12 PMAlso looking at the players to watch Dominic Kegel QB from Greenville.  Dom is the real deal. He led his team to a 2nd place finish in State in Washington. Also Dom participated in the Barton Camps. Barton Camp is a camp the host the best skilled players and lineman in the Northwest area.

Is he related to Matt, the WSU QB who had the unfortunate role of succeeding Jason Gesser?

Sounds like yes.

Not brothers.  Dom is from Washington and Matt played at WSU but was from Montana.  Not sure if their related in some way but I know for sure not brothers.   Tomorrow GC scrimmage vs. Milikin.  I'm planning on going and taking a look.  The OL is the same as last year except Big Poe is missing. The DL is all veterans and the same as last year except with the loss of Russell Reece. Both are big losses but can be made up.  Justin Grant is a player to watch as it said on IBFC. He is a DE, quick and strong and a SR.  At the scrimmage I want to see the LB's and what has been done to make up for the loss of JR Harriel. Alot of other things to look at but those are a big focus.  Dom #4 QB was a Sophmore last year and here is a clip of him against AURURA, CUW, and CUC, what can we expect this yr?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l4DAcVWARc

p.s Does anyone know about Lakeland and CUW and how their doing in camp & srimmages? What about Aurora? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 22, 2007, 10:39:54 AM
7400-

I do disagree with you on one thing, the Kickoff 2007 is worth checking out every single school in all of D-III, no one else has anything like it.  Plus it helps D3football.com keep running so we can have all this posting fun.

that is all...........................

COUGARS!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on August 22, 2007, 02:09:18 PM
In a completey unrelated note, did anyone read the story on ESPN.com about the 59 year old thats getting ready to suit up for a d3 school in Texas?  Amazing story if he gets some snaps..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on August 22, 2007, 03:35:32 PM
Tru-

Don't expect too much from the scrimage. I imagine all teams now are still heavily into evaluating their squads. From my experience of watching scrimages, they simulate the NFL pre-season. In that the starters will play a series or two, and then the younger kids play so they can be evaluated. But it will give both teams a chance to hit someone else besides each other.

Have a good time, Wish I could go. I am going to some high school game this Friday just to get warmed -up
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 22, 2007, 04:41:48 PM
7400west -  Blackburn College is in Carlinville, 2 hours North of GC. 

Looking forward to the scrimmage and to see the recruits GC landed also. I hear ya on the whole 1st team done after a couple plays.   My fiance and I are heading to her high school alma mater to watch them open the season up Friday. Only 22 and high school seems a long long time ago.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 22, 2007, 05:18:09 PM
I am going to take in the Elmhrst-Lakeland  scrimmage on Friday and then go see CUW-Carthage on Sat. I will report back on how they look. My neighbor was at the Lakeland intra squad scrimmage and said the defense dominated the offense. He said they can throw the ball, some big fast receivers. Also noted many injuries as several kids did not play. We will see this Friday.



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on August 22, 2007, 07:15:48 PM
TRU
Isnt Blackburn only 1 hour from Greenville?
I cant go to the game at Millikin Thursday so make sure you post how the game went.
Thanks
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 01:40:48 AM
Quote from: Goal Line Stand on August 22, 2007, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 22, 2007, 03:03:22 AM

That reminds me...someone tell my why I should spend 10 or 5 bucks on that thing??????

Because you might learn something about D-3 football beyond your favorite team or conference but the most important reason would be that the nominal price of $8.95 helps to support this site that you seem to enjoy using so much on a regular basis.   ;D

I could care less about schools out side of the IBC!! As for supporting this site, I would love to..just let me know when the bake sale is! haahhaha
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 01:44:47 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on August 22, 2007, 04:41:48 PM
7400west -  Blackburn College is in Carlinville, 2 hours North of GC. 



Thank you for the update, aparently Blackburn has had a good offseason of conditioning. It's all the site talks about, I would like to know a little more about their coach if any of you post pattern runners would like to take about him that would be great!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 01:46:05 AM
Also, everytime i come on this site i have to be hit with McDonalds chipotle bbq snack wrap!!! Consider that my ten bucks! hahaha
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 01:50:29 AM
1. Mac Arthur White (Lakeland)
2. Dominic Kegel (Greenville)
3. Wilbur Allen (CUW)
4. Brad Wilk (Lakeland)
5. Marcus Goedken (Aurora)
6. Jon Wagner (Lakeland)
7. Nick Drabek (CUW)
8. Justin Grant (Greenville)
9. Nate Robinson (MacMurray), Adam Kloskey (CUW)
10. Nick Lindsey (Eureka)

Should it not be the top 11 players to watch?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 23, 2007, 02:00:27 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 01:40:48 AM
Quote from: Goal Line Stand on August 22, 2007, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 22, 2007, 03:03:22 AM

That reminds me...someone tell my why I should spend 10 or 5 bucks on that thing??????

Because you might learn something about D-3 football beyond your favorite team or conference but the most important reason would be that the nominal price of $8.95 helps to support this site that you seem to enjoy using so much on a regular basis.   ;D

I could care less about schools out side of the IBC!! As for supporting this site, I would love to..just let me know when the bake sale is! haahhaha

Obviously I'm biased, but I haven't seen the folks who read Kickoff imploring people to "Elevate the level of the discussion to more than talking points."

Clearly the board ain't cutting it. I wonder where people could find something to sink their teeth into.

Hmmm.

In other news, I got an e-mail from Dom Kegel today.

Nice work IBFC board. Karma for everyone ... 'cept 7400 West.

I'll keep you posted on that bake sale though, we'll be out for an IBFC and CCIW game Oct. 13th, maybe I can bring you a cookie.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 23, 2007, 02:01:09 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 01:46:05 AM
Also, everytime i come on this site i have to be hit with McDonalds chipotle bbq snack wrap!!! Consider that my ten bucks! hahaha

No.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: New Tradition on August 23, 2007, 02:15:45 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 22, 2007, 03:03:22 AM
Quote from: NCAA Football on August 21, 2007, 10:57:52 PM
I've got an idea, why do you, NCAA Football, buy the 10 doller kick off scam thing and tell us about lakeland yourself!!!

That reminds me...someone tell my why I should spend 10 or 5 bucks on that thing??????
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 01:44:47 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on August 22, 2007, 04:41:48 PM

Thank you for the update, aparently Blackburn has had a good offseason of conditioning. It's all the site talks about, I would like to know a little more about their coach if any of you post pattern runners would like to take about him that would be great!

I think you just answered your own question.  You wouldn't have to ask this and hope for a reply if  you bought the "ten dollar kick off scam thing."  You could look it up yourself!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 23, 2007, 02:42:32 AM
Basically.

I love that no one is answering the questions.

Clearly our boy here has a lack of respect for the time, effort and money it has taken to keep this site up and running and FREE for the past 7 years. The only people that benefit from the five or nine bucks you're gonna spend on a value meal anyway is you. More coverage, fancy message board, etc. ... I know most of you get it, and 7400 will say he's just kidding.

But I know certain people who should who have never taken a salary for their work here.

Times are hard, it is certainly your right not to buy it. But to show the kind of disdain you have for someone who provides a site for free, frankly, makes you look like a real [jerk].
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: realistic on August 23, 2007, 10:02:10 AM
7400 - As Keith said, maybe times are hard...but stop being an idiot about it.  $8.95 for full coverage of 200+ teams across the country????  This is a scam?

Come on.  for those of us who are on here year round (or even periodically) it's $.02 a day for that coverage...that you can't get anywhere else.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2007, 10:54:05 AM
Believe he's a former player -- perhaps he's upset he wasn't mentioned in a previous year.

However, I personally wrote the IBFC capsules in 2005 and 2006, so I know that they were well-written, all of the coaches were interviewed at length, and players mentioned were ones the coaches thought would make an impact. :)

Sorry you don't think it's worth your effort. This board is here for you to vent on and post on regardless, as long as you don't violate the Terms of Service.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 10:54:42 AM
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Butterfly Socks from Team Estrogen...$8.95

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Some stationary to correspond with his buddies from the convention:

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Some equipment for the next time he gets to the gym:

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And finally, a mini-pennant for his cubicle so he can lie and convince his co-workers he went to a cornerstone of the D3 landscape:

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I can see why he couldn't spare the change for the Kickoff.  Pat and Keith, cut the guy a break.  Did you want his china dolls to be naked?

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
Pat...I am a former player, are you? I could care less about being mentioned, I have been reading this site for 4  years and have never heard anything about buying this thing. With all the ad help this site gets, i dont think it will miss my five bucks.
Jose...That was a very detailed post, I think you could have taken the time to read Kickoff then go though all that trouble! But I laughed non the less. let me just comment on some of the gifts you picked out for me, the socks...very cute, at least my Girlfriend would like them, the fancy party dress...could be worth something someday, but really why are you even thinking about dresses, The fruit and veggies would be a great choice, it makes eating healty fun!!! ahahah I have never heard of Poor Boys, must be a souther thing or something, but I do love a deal! Also, the wacky wobbler would be awsome, I love to poke fun at abe, after all i do live in the land of lincoln! I am also sure that there are a lot of posters\nonathletes that LOVE startrec, I for one could always use some good stationary!! and, who brings equipment to the gym? and since I love the movie, Road Trip, an Ithaca pennant would be cool, ecept i dont work in a cubical, but sometimes it feels like one! hahaahha, nice post, i hope to hear more from you jose, how about some football talk, or even maybe since you have the kickoff, you can tell us all about d3 football!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:05:15 PM
Quote from: New Tradition on August 23, 2007, 02:15:45 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 22, 2007, 03:03:22 AM
Quote from: NCAA Football on August 21, 2007, 10:57:52 PM
I've got an idea, why do you, NCAA Football, buy the 10 doller kick off scam thing and tell us about lakeland yourself!!!

That reminds me...someone tell my why I should spend 10 or 5 bucks on that thing??????
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 01:44:47 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on August 22, 2007, 04:41:48 PM

Thank you for the update, aparently Blackburn has had a good offseason of conditioning. It's all the site talks about, I would like to know a little more about their coach if any of you post pattern runners would like to take about him that would be great!

I think you just answered your own question.  You wouldn't have to ask this and hope for a reply if  you bought the "ten dollar kick off scam thing."  You could look it up yourself!

I rather not, and just keep this board going with cool convo's but if you are against that then by all means go and buy the thing and let other people tell you how it is!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:09:24 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on August 23, 2007, 02:42:32 AM
Basically.

I love that no one is answering the questions.

Clearly our boy here has a lack of respect for the time, effort and money it has taken to keep this site up and running and FREE for the past 7 years. The only people that benefit from the five or nine bucks you're gonna spend on a value meal anyway is you. More coverage, fancy message board, etc. ... I know most of you get it, and 7400 will say he's just kidding.

But I know certain people who should who have never taken a salary for their work here.

Times are hard, it is certainly your right not to buy it. But to show the kind of disdain you have for someone who provides a site for free, frankly, makes you look like a real [jerk].

wow! you sould like you need sometime alone. I am sorry, I am sure that someday Mark Cuban will buy this site and pay you for you efforts!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:10:57 PM
"Nice work IBFC board. Karma for everyone ... 'cept 7400 West."


Thank Goodness I care so much! haahah I have like minus 50 in karma, I cry everynight becasue of it!!! hahahaahah
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on August 23, 2007, 12:13:19 PM
You've brought the football conversation in this forum to a standstill, 7400.  I'm sure the people will resume football talk once you stop asking them to share information they read after having purchased the Kickoff.  

You can keep asking, but doesn't look like anyone is talking football for 2007 anymore with you.   So you can keep being a douche bag or you can apologize to Pat/Kieth and then everyone will move on...I think I know which one you'll choose though...you're as predictable as Springfield (MA) College's offense (in the kickoff).

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on August 23, 2007, 12:17:37 PM
And by the way, the whole "I'm a former player, are you?" statement is stupid. 

It doesn't matter...  You don't hear pro players ask that when they have a problem with the media do you... so why would some washed up player who never sniffed the pros be able to call out someone on being an athlete or player?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superman57 on August 23, 2007, 12:17:58 PM
seriously for all the info they give us for free...buck up and buy the darn thing and skip the all you can eat sizzler buffett today
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 12:18:31 PM
Throw "$8.95" into Google Image Search and you will find what I found.

Throw $8.95 into PayPal and you can read what I read.  Good stuff in that kickoff.

+k to SaintsFan for bashing SC's offense.  Come on over the E8.  We love pounding on SC fans for their gimmick.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:50:44 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on August 23, 2007, 12:17:37 PM
And by the way, the whole "I'm a former player, are you?" statement is stupid. 

It doesn't matter...  You don't hear pro players ask that when they have a problem with the media do you... so why would some washed up player who never sniffed the pros be able to call out someone on being an athlete or player?


what are you talking about, pat was the one who called me out, i simply replied. You are absolutly right, it does not matter, that was my point!!!
and what the hell are you talking about, I never imagined myself a pro football player and the same reason I sould not call out someone is the same reason why you should shut up RIGHT NOW!! geeze,...

make one little joke about kickoff and everyone loves to post, ask about football and no one has anything to say!!

ARE WE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT the IBC or what!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on August 23, 2007, 01:19:09 PM
You've blacklisted yourself for the moment...exactly what I just told you would happen, has happened. 

By the way, You didn't make "1 little joke about kickoff", you made a few...enough to bring attention to yourself, hence the "everyone loves to post"...

I didn't call you out because you didn't play professional football..I called you out because you're an idiot and a loud mouth.


Good luck talking football in here, if you get to that point with anyone. 

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2007, 01:26:52 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
Pat...I am a former player, are you? I could care less about being mentioned, I have been reading this site for 4  years and have never heard anything about buying this thing. With all the ad help this site gets, i dont think it will miss my five bucks.

You should read the front page a little more often. AKA, ever.

And you're making a big assumption that ads that don't get clicked on pay anything.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
Pat...I am a former player, are you?

This is true if by "player" you mean, member of the team.  If by "player" you mean "good player" then I think there is more discussion needed.

In 2005, Tom Cerceo (7400West) started every game at LG for Concordia.  In 2005 the Concordia offense managed just 120 points, due in large part to the 41 sacks allowed by its offensive line, which containted the aforementioned Cerceo.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superman57 on August 23, 2007, 01:52:56 PM
ouch that hurts...don't mess with pat cuz Jose will come huntin for ya
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 01:59:36 PM
Wait, it gets worse, sorry for you regular posters in his conference that obviously already know this, but Concordia Chicago was 2-36 during 7400's four years there?  Lost his last 20.  Wow, I thought we had some bad teams in the East Region.

No wonder you don't want to pay to read the Kickoff.  You already know what it will say about your alma mater.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maninorangehat on August 23, 2007, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 23, 2007, 01:59:36 PM
Wait, it gets worse, sorry for you regular posters in his conference that obviously already know this, but Concordia Chicago was 2-36 during 7400's four years there?  Lost his last 20.  Wow, I thought we had some bad teams in the East Region.

No wonder you don't want to pay to read the Kickoff.  You already know what it will say about your alma mater.

ZING! 

Perhaps 7400 could use the $8.50 to buy his former QB some advil

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Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on August 23, 2007, 02:44:05 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 23, 2007, 01:59:36 PM
Wait, it gets worse, sorry for you regular posters in his conference that obviously already know this, but Concordia Chicago was 2-36 during 7400's four years there?  Lost his last 20.  Wow, I thought we had some bad teams in the East Region.

No wonder you don't want to pay to read the Kickoff.  You already know what it will say about your alma mater.
Jose hitting 7400 with a little rope-a-dope.... zing..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PBR... on August 23, 2007, 03:06:29 PM
dang 7400 is that you #95 watchin' your qb?

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Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on August 23, 2007, 03:08:41 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 23, 2007, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
Pat...I am a former player, are you?

This is true if by "player" you mean, member of the team.  If by "player" you mean "good player" then I think there is more discussion needed.

In 2005, Tom Cerceo (7400West) started every game at LG for Concordia.  In 2005 the Concordia offense managed just 120 points, due in large part to the 41 sacks allowed by its offensive line, which containted the aforementioned Cerceo.

Nice work, Jose... + Karma. 

41 sacks?  I can't imagine....  My line would have never done that to me...of course the occasional "look out" block is expected....but 41 times?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 23, 2007, 03:13:43 PM
Ok...ok

7400 is being an ass that's fine, you can talk about him all you want.

But leave CUC out of the whole conversation, seriously.  He doesn't represent all of those who attended CUC.

It was no fun watching Platt (the QB at the time) getting sacked 100 times a game and watching him run for his life 2 seconds after the ball was snapped.  

So keep your bashes to 7400 and not the actual team itself.

QuoteNo wonder you don't want to pay to read the Kickoff.  You already know what it will say about your alma mater.

Don't agree with that at all, this should be a great year for CUC, hopefully with some upsets along the way.

Just keep it away from the team, can you do that Jose?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on August 23, 2007, 03:06:29 PM
dang 7400 is that you #95 watchin' your qb?

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LMAO +k PBR.

Here is 7400 on the next offensive possession:

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And here is on the following Saturday:

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Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 03:16:24 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 23, 2007, 03:13:43 PM
Ok...ok

7400 is being an ass that's fine, you can talk about him all you want.

But leave CUC out of the whole conversation, seriously.  He doesn't represent all of those who attended CUC.

It was no fun watching Platt (the QB at the time) getting sacked 100 times a game and watching him run for his life 2 seconds after the ball was snapped.  

So keep your bashes to 7400 and not the actual team itself.

QuoteNo wonder you don't want to pay to read the Kickoff.  You already know what it will say about your alma mater.

Don't agree with that at all, this should be a great year for CUC, hopefully with some upsets along the way.

Just keep it away from the team, can you do that Jose?

Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way.  7400 put his play at issue.  Seems like the number of sacks he and his teammates allowed was relevant.  +k to you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 23, 2007, 03:20:07 PM
Thank you, that's all I ask.


So.....who's that girl in the picture at the bottom?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 03:22:47 PM
Some co-ed at UF.

Apparently she is Tim Tebow's girlfriend.  More likely she was just his girlfriend for a few hours.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 23, 2007, 03:28:30 PM
JoseQViper:
    Now that 7400West, aka Tom Cerceo has been "outed" as a LG on some very bad teams at CU-C and the fact that during his tenure (41) sacks were given up......... That will keep me going.  Nothing like black -board
  material.   

   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 23, 2007, 03:30:46 PM
Jeez, even if she was his girlfriend for only 30 seconds it looks like it would be worth it.

Yeah, how did someone find out his real name?  7400s that is.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 23, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
baseman201:
    You are correct about not getting CU-C involved.  7400West has brought
     it on himself. 
    The past won`t disappear (good or bad) but 7400West  keeps pushing
    the envelope and the results are what you see. 
   


   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 23, 2007, 03:40:44 PM
baseman201:
    JoseQViper said it was ...........Tom Cerceo.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2007, 03:41:02 PM
We don't predict Concordia to go 2-8 again. But only three people from CUC have purchased Kickoff so I have no real interest in revealing more. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: realistic on August 23, 2007, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 23, 2007, 03:30:46 PM
Jeez, even if she was his girlfriend for only 30 seconds it looks like it would be worth it.

Yeah, how did someone find out his real name?  7400s that is.

clicking on their profile shows there email address.  As someone who made it known that he was a player...it is fairly easy.  Jose has had some success there, as have a number of us in the East Region.  It always seems to happen when someone makes an ass of themselves on here.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on August 23, 2007, 03:44:40 PM
Maybe its not Tebow's girlfriend...read the postings on this link...someone came forward claiming to be her and said she just had her picture taken with him.  Besides the boobage, I dont' think she's THAT special....and I was a QB at a "lowly D3 program" and NOT the National Champion Florida Gators..

http://journorock.blogspot.com/2007/01/tim-tebows-girlfriend.html
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 03:54:51 PM
I saw that comment too, but who knows.  Based on what I hear from my friends in Gainesville, there aren't any girls that "just have their picture taken" with Tim Tebow.

I mean, lets be honest here.  Superman wears Tim Tebow pajamas.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superman57 on August 23, 2007, 03:57:46 PM
yes I do...they are quite comfortable
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PBR... on August 23, 2007, 03:58:49 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 23, 2007, 03:54:51 PM
I saw that comment too, but who knows.  Based on what I hear from my friends in Gainesville, there aren't any girls that "just have their picture taken" with Tim Tebow.

I mean, lets be honest here.  Superman wears Tim Tebow pajamas.

true jose re: pj's but only because chuck norris wants it that way...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 04:00:13 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on August 23, 2007, 03:28:30 PM
JoseQViper:
    Now that 7400West, aka Tom Cerceo has been "outed" as a LG on some very bad teams at CU-C and the fact that during his tenure (41) sacks were given up......... That will keep me going.  Nothing like black -board
  material.   

Not during his tenure, just during his senior season.

That poor QB. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on August 23, 2007, 04:02:36 PM
Jose,

REALLY??!!  Religious boy gone wild, huh??

Nice..  She's still not all that...but she IS 'very intellectual'
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 23, 2007, 04:05:14 PM
I really can't even imagine the culture shock he must have gone through last year.  I mean, its not just that his dad is a pastor and his family is super religious.  This kid had never attended a school prior to his freshman year at UF where he was an instant cult-hero from the first week of the season.  Think about that, home schooled his entire life to being the biggest celebrity on one of the biggest college campuses in the country.  Crazy.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: realistic on August 23, 2007, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 23, 2007, 04:05:14 PM
I really can't even imagine the culture shock he must have gone through last year.  I mean, its not just that his dad is a pastor and his family is super religious.  This kid had never attended a school prior to his freshman year at UF where he was an instant cult-hero from the first week of the season.  Think about that, home schooled his entire life to being the biggest celebrity on one of the biggest college campuses in the country.  Crazy.

seriously ..... that does have to be insane.  I can't (I don't think anyone can) fathom what it would have been like.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on August 23, 2007, 04:56:09 PM
Yeah yeah yeah......Ok you bashed him joseQ lets talk football now....and not who we all are
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Goal Line Stand on August 23, 2007, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on August 23, 2007, 04:56:09 PM
Yeah yeah yeah......Ok you bashed him joseQ lets talk football now....and not who we all are

Ya, I've got to admit that I was taken back by the bashing also but let's face it, 7400 did bring it all on himself.  He should have crawled off quietly after Pat and Keith got involved but he continued to post and make more of an ass of himself instead! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 23, 2007, 10:08:01 PM
Ok, last comment about the picture.....the boobage is worth it sometimes.

But not all the time...........

That is all.

now let's talk some FOOTBALL!!! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on August 23, 2007, 11:09:37 PM
A couple guys that now play for CUW actually played against tebow in high school...Tebow actually got knocked around a couple times by CUWs starting saftey in the state finals game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 23, 2007, 11:29:36 PM
I knew Tebow sounded familiar and I remember when Hoover played Nease back in 2005 (MTV Two-Adays) they were talking about how Neases QB (Tebow) was one of the better QBs in the nation.

But when I was watching two-adays I never really thought about it.

Yeah, when you look at that picture up close she doesn't look as good.............but from the neck down she does.

Ok, enough, enough sorry. 

I think I am going to go ahead and pick up Kickoff, be the 4th person from CUC to get it!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 24, 2007, 12:26:50 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:09:24 PM
I am sorry, I am sure that someday Mark Cuban will buy this site and pay you for you efforts!

Ah so solly. I wasn't talking about me. I take a salary.

You almost got a dis in there though, keep trying!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 24, 2007, 12:38:18 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on August 23, 2007, 12:13:19 PM
You've brought the football conversation in this forum to a standstill, 7400.  I'm sure the people will resume football talk once you stop asking them to share information they read after having purchased the Kickoff.  

You can keep asking, but doesn't look like anyone is talking football for 2007 anymore with you.   So you can keep being a douche bag or you can apologize to Pat/Kieth and then everyone will move on...I think I know which one you'll choose though...you're as predictable as Springfield (MA) College's offense (in the kickoff).

Saints,
I appreciate you and the fellas taking up for us. Personally, I'm not seeking an apology, and I try to resist the urge to argue with fools. The site is free by design, and that gives cheapskates and jackasses a right to post here as much as anyone else. I'm just sorry the regular readers of your board have to deal with him.

I chimed in because I thought 7400 might have wanted to know how dumb he looked making fun of D3football.com on D3football.com. (Not even sure he gets the irony)

You can chew on that for free, 7400, I won't charge you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 24, 2007, 01:46:54 AM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 23, 2007, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
Pat...I am a former player, are you?

This is true if by "player" you mean, member of the team.  If by "player" you mean "good player" then I think there is more discussion needed.

In 2005, Tom Cerceo (7400West) started every game at LG for Concordia.  In 2005 the Concordia offense managed just 120 points, due in large part to the 41 sacks allowed by its offensive line, which containted the aforementioned Cerceo.

wow, you could have just asked and I would have told you who I am.
The sad thing is that I was one of 40+ guys on that team that all gave alot more effort then you did to find out who I am, my darn email is CERC101@hotmail.com! I played and I was okay, I have never posted anything to suggest diffrent. Tell me what learning my name and College stats has to do with me buying the "kickoff"
I have asked and said many times to stop bitching about me not buying Kickoff and lets talk about the start of the season! I dont see how finding my name out, and bashing the years I played and the rest of my teamates I productive, LET IT GO!  There are more former players that were on that team that post along with me and I dont feel that you bashing me or them is worth me buying 'Kickoff" so for that, Jose, if you have a problem you can swing by CUC and ask to see me, I am still around here and their!

Also, Saintsfan, I dont see the irony because I am not bashing D3football! I was making a joke about Kickoff!! and Thanks of not charging me, cuz now I guess everything costs something on this sight!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 24, 2007, 02:04:11 AM
I am not going to buy "kickoff" but I am willing to say I am sorry for hurting the feelings of the people that worked on it, I am sure you worked hard, and for that I can respect. I would like to talk about the ending of camp and the season if that is okay with all of you.


I can say this with a smile on my face that...CUC has a better OL now that when I played there! ahah it's true, I've seen them and they can move!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Goal Line Stand on August 24, 2007, 07:13:30 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 24, 2007, 02:04:11 AM
I am not going to buy "kickoff" but I am willing to say I am sorry for hurting the feelings of the people that worked on it, I am sure you worked hard, and for that I can respect.

Well...........that is a start anyway!   It was never about you not buying it, it was about you bashing it!  What do you think, fellas?  Time to cut him a little slack?  After all, we were all young and stupid once and I'm willing to bet that he has learned his lesson!   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Senor RedTackle on August 24, 2007, 07:54:04 AM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 23, 2007, 01:59:36 PM
Wait, it gets worse, sorry for you regular posters in his conference that obviously already know this, but Concordia Chicago was 2-36 during 7400's four years there?  Lost his last 20.  Wow, I thought we had some bad teams in the East Region.

No wonder you don't want to pay to read the Kickoff.  You already know what it will say about your alma mater.

Jose...not THAT is quality research. At least RT would vet himself clean in a search like that!! :)

RT recommends that JQV be brought in as a 'special consultant' on a full time basis for D3.com

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Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on August 24, 2007, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 24, 2007, 01:46:54 AM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 23, 2007, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
Pat...I am a former player, are you?

This is true if by "player" you mean, member of the team.  If by "player" you mean "good player" then I think there is more discussion needed.

In 2005, Tom Cerceo (7400West) started every game at LG for Concordia.  In 2005 the Concordia offense managed just 120 points, due in large part to the 41 sacks allowed by its offensive line, which containted the aforementioned Cerceo.

wow, you could have just asked and I would have told you who I am.
The sad thing is that I was one of 40+ guys on that team that all gave alot more effort then you did to find out who I am, my darn email is CERC101@hotmail.com! I played and I was okay, I have never posted anything to suggest diffrent. Tell me what learning my name and College stats has to do with me buying the "kickoff"
I have asked and said many times to stop bitching about me not buying Kickoff and lets talk about the start of the season! I dont see how finding my name out, and bashing the years I played and the rest of my teamates I productive, LET IT GO!  There are more former players that were on that team that post along with me and I dont feel that you bashing me or them is worth me buying 'Kickoff" so for that, Jose, if you have a problem you can swing by CUC and ask to see me, I am still around here and their!

Also, Saintsfan, I dont see the irony because I am not bashing D3football! I was making a joke about Kickoff!! and Thanks of not charging me, cuz now I guess everything costs something on this sight!!

I can't let this go. You mean to tell me you are college educated (not going to bash CUC, just going to bash this fool) and you don't know the difference between their, there, and they're? And the word in this case would be SITE, not SIGHT, unless you saw something I didn't.
You say it's not a big deal that you were outed by JoseQ.  I think that's BS. You would have continued to spew your vitriol (ooh big word...) anonymously and cowardly.
I'm not the best writer or have the best grammar in the world, but I know when to keep my mouth shut.
I know this is a message board, but if you're going to spout off at the mouth and sound ridiculous doing it, you'll have to take what's coming to you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on August 24, 2007, 10:26:38 AM
vitriol -  NOUN:  abusive or venomous language used to express blame or censure or bitter deep-seated ill will


Interesting....haha. 

Keith, I got you.....loud and clear.  I think what made me post was the whole "I played, did you comment" that you'd usually hear from some abusive post pattern junky.  By the way I HAVEN"T purchased the kickoff yet, because I left my wallet in bar last weekend (don't ask)......but the girl I was with is 22....not bad for some old fart (I'm 30).   Anyways, I will be purchasing once Chase gets my stuff to me....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 24, 2007, 10:42:04 AM
SaintsFan-

Was the 22 year old Tim Tebows girlfriend?

Ok, this board has gotten off subject yet again from football, does anyone remember the 4 pages of naming things off that were gay?

Haha, that was fun though.

Ok, I will try to get back on subject, we have heard from pretty much every team but Benedictine and Eureka, what's going on in Lisle and Reagan land?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on August 24, 2007, 10:59:27 AM
Baseman,

Same endowment, but IMO, a little better looking...

How is Mac going to be this year?  My old QB's coach played LB there and is now at Illinois with Zook. 


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 24, 2007, 02:43:59 PM
Whoa....stop looking on D3 for 2 days and you come back to a whole lot of shaaabang. I would have to say that I never knew anything about the whole Kickoff thing. However, now that I do, I will be purchasing one (from CUC). I don't think many people buy the Kickoff from CUC because not every fan of CUC goes onto D3football.com. I am interested in seeing what the Kickoff says about CUC and the rest of the IBFC teams.

The comment made about 6 pages back about being sick of reading about CUC...man, you gotta deal with it. I never seen people hate fans of a team so much just because they are overly excited for the season to start. If you don't want to read about CUC, click the little red X at the top of your screen or better yet rant and rave about your team.

Interesting comment made by Mr. Coleman...you guys don't see CUC going 2-8? Is this in the Kickoff by any chance?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 24, 2007, 02:47:48 PM
Yep.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 24, 2007, 03:55:42 PM
CUC will probably be better than 2-8 thanks to a significant upgrade at Left Guard from the 2005 team.

OK...sorry that was a cheap shot.  I thought I could take the high road but I failed.  Back to the East Region for me.  You IBFC guys should come visit the Empire 8 and Liberty League.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 24, 2007, 04:10:38 PM
Didn't make it to the GC vs Millikin scrimmage.  Was going to go to watch the alma-mater start there high school football season off, but going to Cardinals vs. Braves game instead.  d3football1 you are right on Blackburn being a little over an hour away from GC.  Blackburn is 2 hours north from where I live. GC is an 1hr from me.  sorry bout that. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 24, 2007, 06:13:47 PM
Jose-

Wow, that was a cheap shot.......

But, I like you posting because I like your picture.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 24, 2007, 06:32:23 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 24, 2007, 03:55:42 PM
CUC will probably be better than 2-8 thanks to a significant upgrade at Left Guard from the 2005 team.

OK...sorry that was a cheap shot.  I thought I could take the high road but I failed.  Back to the East Region for me.  You IBFC guys should come visit the Empire 8 and Liberty League.

wow are you bitter, get over it, do you have some sort of gay attraction to me or something. Go takecare of yourself and rub one off and relax!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400West on August 24, 2007, 06:35:49 PM
Quote from: budcrew08 on August 24, 2007, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: 7400West on August 24, 2007, 01:46:54 AM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 23, 2007, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 23, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
Pat...I am a former player, are you?

This is true if by "player" you mean, member of the team.  If by "player" you mean "good player" then I think there is more discussion needed.

In 2005, Tom Cerceo (7400West) started every game at LG for Concordia.  In 2005 the Concordia offense managed just 120 points, due in large part to the 41 sacks allowed by its offensive line, which containted the aforementioned Cerceo.

wow, you could have just asked and I would have told you who I am.
The sad thing is that I was one of 40+ guys on that team that all gave alot more effort then you did to find out who I am, my darn email is CERC101@hotmail.com! I played and I was okay, I have never posted anything to suggest diffrent. Tell me what learning my name and College stats has to do with me buying the "kickoff"
I have asked and said many times to stop bitching about me not buying Kickoff and lets talk about the start of the season! I dont see how finding my name out, and bashing the years I played and the rest of my teamates I productive, LET IT GO!  There are more former players that were on that team that post along with me and I dont feel that you bashing me or them is worth me buying 'Kickoff" so for that, Jose, if you have a problem you can swing by CUC and ask to see me, I am still around here and their!

Also, Saintsfan, I dont see the irony because I am not bashing D3football! I was making a joke about Kickoff!! and Thanks of not charging me, cuz now I guess everything costs something on this sight!!

I can't let this go. You mean to tell me you are college educated (not going to bash CUC, just going to bash this fool) and you don't know the difference between their, there, and they're? And the word in this case would be SITE, not SIGHT, unless you saw something I didn't.
You say it's not a big deal that you were outed by JoseQ.  I think that's BS. You would have continued to spew your vitriol (ooh big word...) anonymously and cowardly.
I'm not the best writer or have the best grammar in the world, but I know when to keep my mouth shut.
I know this is a message board, but if you're going to spout off at the mouth and sound ridiculous doing it, you'll have to take what's coming to you.


why not, I would have have done what you are doing right now! What is your name, clearly jose has some kind of gay attraction to me, to find out my name. do you share the same feelings. I am sorry to let you down but I am not attracted to men!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 24, 2007, 06:49:22 PM
Hmm, yeah, I'm thinking we don't need the homosexual comments on here.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Goal Line Stand on August 24, 2007, 07:02:01 PM
Wow, he just keeps digging himself in deeper, doesn't he?  ???   ::)  So much for my idea to cut him a little slack.   ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on August 24, 2007, 08:14:31 PM
Jose took it easy on him too.  The LLPP and E8 heavyweights didn't even weigh in on this one.  Maybe if we ignore it, it will go away.

Gay jokes are usually the last resort of someone who has been pwned.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JQV on August 24, 2007, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: 7400West on August 24, 2007, 06:32:23 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on August 24, 2007, 03:55:42 PM
CUC will probably be better than 2-8 thanks to a significant upgrade at Left Guard from the 2005 team.

OK...sorry that was a cheap shot.  I thought I could take the high road but I failed.  Back to the East Region for me.  You IBFC guys should come visit the Empire 8 and Liberty League.

wow are you bitter, get over it, do you have some sort of gay attraction to me or something. Go takecare of yourself and rub one off and relax!

You sound like a gay

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Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 24, 2007, 10:53:37 PM
Elmhurst-Lakeland scrimmage today;

IMO, two fairly similar and even teams. Elmurst has a good QB, mobile and good arm. Lakelands QB has good arm and throws a good deep ball.

Elmhurst has the better running game. Outside zone was very effective. Looks like their line will be good.

Lakeland was unable to constuct any long drives, some big plays via the air. Lakeland has good speed and height at receiver, they caught alot of balls.

Elmhurst QB's were very explosive on the runs, outside and their running backs are pretty good. Lakeland is skinny on running backs, just a couple who are not hurt. Lakeland could not run inside for any yardage to speak of.

Lakelands defense was able to hold up pretty good by getting a good pass rush. They gave up some runs via the ouside zone.

Elmhurst has two big safeties who really bring it and are pretty good in space versus the pass. They filled fast versus the run and were very good hitters. I would think they may be a couple of the better safties in the CCIW.

Lakeland has several areas they need to shore up and they have to get healthly. 15+ out due to injury. IMO, they can have a good year if they stay healthly and shore up their run game. IMO, they will present some matchup problems with opposing teams corners because of the height factor. It will be an interesting year. Good Luck to everyone's teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superman57 on August 25, 2007, 12:55:38 PM
wow 7400's karma has dropped faster than mine ever has... I wonder how long it will take him to get to -1000
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on August 25, 2007, 04:01:22 PM
seriously.....football, not 7400 ok
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 25, 2007, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on August 25, 2007, 04:01:22 PM
seriously.....football, not 7400 ok

I don't think your post follows your own rules ...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on August 26, 2007, 12:52:43 AM
True.....Good point
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 26, 2007, 01:59:38 AM
Since this is the IBFC board....I will give you a short follow up on the CUC Cougars inter-squad scrimmage today. To start things off, the offense...

Quarterback- Both Qbs came out strong in this scrimmage facing the first and second string at defense. When it comes to it, these two quarterbacks will have each others backs. If one has a weakness, the other has that strength and this will come in handy as the season goes on.

Runningback- with 4 guys competing in this position, it was hard to pick out who was the best as each of them showed their own unique abilities. However, each back showed a great amount of speed unlike the runningbacks in the past and will surely do some damage when the run game is needed. I don't want to give much away as I am sure some "scouts" read this board and don't want to give away strengths and weaknesses.

Receivers- These positions are wide open but at the same time there seems to be 4 WRs who have already broken out of their shells, 2 of them being freshmen. They are able to make plays down field and will be a great use in the Cougar offense.

Offensive Line- Well, as we all know...the Cougar line has suffered here and there. This year, it is a different story. This offensive line is pretty solid and allows the quarterback the time to find the open receiver. Suprisingly, the run game looked solid with the amazing blocking and speed of the offensive line and running backs.

Overall, look forward to this offense being a high scoring offense as it seemed they settled for nothing less. There were some sore spots in the offense but this could simply be improved as the season goes on......for an early predicition I say they score 40+ on Blackburns defense.

To the defensive side of the ball....

D-backs- The defensive backs look very solid and seem to sniff a lot of the offensive plays out quickly. They are quick to the ball whereever it goes and they are a lot stronger than last year.

Linebackers- By far, the strongest part of the defense. These guys will carry the defense throughout the season and make some great plays. They are young at this position but for being so young, they hardly make any mistakes and hit the gaps hard. Very excited for this part of the defense.

D-line- This is the youngest part of the defense and could be a challenge on defense. The fact that there are no returners at this position could hurt the Cougars. However, there were some shining stars on the d-line as freshmen who could stand out. I look forward to seeing the defensive ends having a solid season as they are quick and strong.

Special teams overall are looking great. The Cougars are looking quick and strong as well on returns.

I will not use names or numbers as I do know a few of them...I do not want to show what the Cougars have in store for this season. I wish everyone else good luck and I hope you all enjoy reading this post.

LETS GO COUGARS!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 26, 2007, 11:34:57 AM
Smelly Fart-

I definately enjoyed reading that post.  I kind of figured that maybe the LBs will be a strong bunch this year, got alot of talent in from FL it seems at this position.  At WR I hope at least one of those 6'5 guys from FL can produce.

Their first true test will be week 2 September 8th against University of Chicago (which I am attending).  Chicago is a pretty good team, but definately not the best.  So I think how that game goes will determine how they do against the "top" teams in the IBC.

Anyhow, only one week left until the season starts, I hope all IBC teams win their non-conference games.......though a couple have a tough test their first week (Macmurray Vs. Augustana and Lakeland Vs. Whitewater) those could be pretty ugly games, but other then that all IBC teams have a pretty good shot.

good luck to all, I hope to see some predictions this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 27, 2007, 02:40:38 PM
Captains named for the 2007 Cougar Football team:

WR #11- Dan Meier (Senior)
CB #6- Jerin Davis (Sophomore)
LB #52- Steve Malok (Junior)
OL #73- Sean Yerkes (Senior)
QB #4- Jason Weeks (Senior)

Baseman, the 6'5 receiver you speak of from FLA is on and off. Good feet and good speed and he seemed like he was able to break off the defenders jam very well. Hopefully he could continually catch the ball though when it is hanging in the air...his height should always come into factor on the fades.

Anybody else have any news on other teams??? Captains named? Some stand outs on some teams that we haven't heard about yet?

The new Cougar statue looks amazing outside the field @ CUC by the way. ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 27, 2007, 04:02:30 PM
Fartcus-

I thought there were two 6'5 WRs from florida, did the other get moved to another position?

I will have some predictions for this week soon, I hope everyone else will as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NoNeedToHideMyName on August 28, 2007, 12:46:54 AM
I'm pretty excited about the season kicking off this weekend.  It should be a much tighter run to the top of the conference than we have seen in recent years.  Does anyone have any predictions for this weekend? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on August 28, 2007, 12:54:38 AM
Quote from: NoNeedToHideMyName on August 28, 2007, 12:46:54 AM
I'm pretty excited about the season kicking off this weekend.  It should be a much tighter run to the top of the conference than we have seen in recent years.  Does anyone have any predictions for this weekend? 

I like the ironic self-contradiction of your handle: +k! ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on August 28, 2007, 09:07:38 AM
QuoteI'm pretty excited about the season kicking off this weekend.  It should be a much tighter run to the top of the conference than we have seen in recent years.  Does anyone have any predictions for this weekend? 

My only prediction:

Auggie = a lot
Mac = not a lot

Very sad, but very true....

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 28, 2007, 10:43:23 AM
PREDICTIONS:  Weekend of September 1st

Macmurray Vs. Augustana:
Ouch, this one is going to be bad, like Mac_seven said, Auggie - alot, MAC - not alot.

Auggie - 57
MAC - 14, (get a score against the 2nd stringers)

CUC Vs. Blackburn:
I think this is going to be a very lopsided game as well.  CUC has alot of new transfers in that are going to step it up big time, I don't see Blackburn having a chance.

CUC - 45
Blackburn - 10

CUW Vs. Simpson:
Don't know much about Simpson, but they were pretty decent a few years ago.  Haven't done very well as of late though.  I will give this one to Simpson though on a last second field goal.

CUW - 17
Simpson - 20

UW-Whitewater Vs. Lakeland
Uhm, I don't even need to say anything

UW-Whitewater - 1,000
Lakeland - 14 (They are at home)

Eureka Vs. Knox:
Again, a non conference team most of us know nothing about, but looking at last season they seem to be pretty well matched.  Since I am an IBC fan I give this to Eureka and their 1-0 start.

Eureka - 14
Knox - 10

Aurora Vs. Wisconsin Lutheran:
Aurora always has a good team, no different this year, Aurora rolls.

Aurora - 38
Wisconsin Lutheran - 3

Elmhurst Vs. Benedictine:
I hear good things about benedictine, but I always hear good things about Elmhurst.  This could be a good game, but I go with Elmhurst.....but not by much.

Elmhurst - 21
Benedictine - 17

Greenville Vs. No One
Greenville easily takes this one without even lifting a finger, but still remains at 0-0 for the season.....

Well that's it, I hope to see other predictions for this weekend.

Can't wait to see that Cougar statue!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on August 28, 2007, 11:22:11 AM
Predictions for Sept 1st. 

Augustana vs MAC :  63-12
CUC vs Blackburn : 38-15 
CUW vs Simpson : 35-20
UW-Whitewater vs Lakeland : 72-17
Eureka vs Knox  : 20-17
Aurora vs Wisc. Lutheran : 34-13

GAME OF THE WEEK
Elmhurst vs Benedictine : 28-21

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on August 28, 2007, 11:31:26 AM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on August 28, 2007, 11:22:11 AM
Predictions for Sept 1st. 

Augustana vs MAC :  63-12
CUC vs Blackburn : 38-15 
CUW vs Simpson : 35-20
UW-Whitewater vs Lakeland : 72-17
Eureka vs Knox  : 20-17
Aurora vs Wisc. Lutheran : 34-13

GAME OF THE WEEK
Elmhurst vs Benedictine : 28-21



Many in the IBC have predicted the BU vs Elmhurst game to be tight.  Some things you should consider: last four years Elmhurst has rolled BU by an average score of 48-8.  Benedictine has not played well against Elmhurst and Elmhurst got to hit this spring since they went on a trip to Europe.

I think the Eagles have really improved the last two years.  But this game is not going to feature defense. The score is going to be in the high thirtys-mid fortys.  Not saying BU will loose 48-8, but the game isn't goint to be 28-21 or 21-17.  Its going to be a barn burner IMHO.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: RedmenBigD on August 28, 2007, 11:32:02 AM
Question for Lakeland posters, What is the feeling towards the new coaching staff after watching the scrimmage?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on August 28, 2007, 03:08:03 PM
Good luck to all IBC teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 28, 2007, 07:02:38 PM
Sweet post man.......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on August 28, 2007, 07:34:18 PM
Predictions for Sept 1st.

Augustana vs MAC :                       Augustana 54, Mac 6
CUC vs Blackburn :                         Blackburn 21, CuC 17
CUW vs Simpson :                          CuW 28, Simpson 21
UW-Whitewater vs Lakeland          UW 34, Lakeland 18   "My upset pick, lol and that is cause of the score"
Eureka vs Knox  :                           Knox 32, Eureka 18
Aurora vs Wisc. Lutheran               Aurora 36,  Wisc Luth 14
Elmhurst vs Benedictine :              Elmhurst 35, Benedictine 21
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 28, 2007, 08:44:47 PM
Looks like everyone is right on for this weeks games. Is Pat going to make us make predictions on the Pic em site?

My Picks;

CUC36/ Blackburn 12 -Blackburn has not improved that much IMO.
CUW24 /Simpson 13 - Simpson may be weekest of the IIAC.
Elmhurst 32/ Benedictine6 - Benedictines defense will wear out by 4th Qtr. No Offense.
Knox18/ Eureka8 -Ugly game.
AU 24/ Wis. Luthern 6 - To much AU defense.
Augie 72/ Mac 6 - A real fast game. Augie throws a few passes in 1st qtr. Then run,run, run.
UWW60/ Lakeland 18 -To many injuries, but will move the ball vs the 2's and 3's.

Well thats my stab at it. I would not bet this in Vegas.


RedmanBigD;

I was at the Lakeland/Elmhurst scrimmage and there were a couple of aspects that were apparent. Looks like the new staff has put in an very upbeat Offense and Defense that fits their personnel. They have some speed on both sides of the ball.  The scrimmage was one that the Offense was 60% Pass and 40% run. Looks like they want to take advantage of the speed and height of their receivers.  Defense is swarming and looks to pressure. Overall they were more discplined than teams I have seen in the past. It will take them some time but they will start slow and if they get some of their wounded back could be dangerous. There first 4 games are butt kickers to say the least.


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 28, 2007, 11:48:19 PM
Good predictions on everyones part except for Madfrog...You really must have some sort of grudge/hate for CUC to put Blackburn over them. CUC beat them with a majority of freshmen last year although it was only 13-3, look for CUC to score high in this game and their defense shows up to play as well.

I am scared for MAC and Lakeland....Lakeland deserves the tough front schedule. MAC, could their heads already be down? Has anyone been watching their practices or heard any updates on what they look like?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CornFed52 on August 29, 2007, 05:11:24 AM
First time poster, but read the site for a long time, I am excited for the season and hope everyteam in the IBFC does well!

Macmurray Vs. Augustana:
Mac cant handle the strong Augustana team! Augustana puts 40+ on them!!

Auggie - 50
MAC -17

CUC Vs. Blackburn:  GAME OR THE WEEK!!
Game or the week cuz of how close this will go, don't be surprised to see an overtime score!

CUC - 27
Blackburn - 21

CUW Vs. Simpson:
I like CUW because I think CUW had a good camp.

CUW - 28
Simpson - 20

UW-Whitewater Vs. Lakeland
Baseman is being a little harsh!! haha

UW-Whitewater - 42
Lakeland - 21

Eureka Vs. Knox:
Knox does pretty good in their conf. and the conf. has a little better rep the the IBFC

Eureka - 7
Knox - 35

Aurora Vs. Wisconsin Lutheran:
Aurora beats them with the run!

Aurora - 24
Wisconsin Lutheran - 17

Elmhurst Vs. Benedictine:
Another close game but Elmhurst is better coached in my view.
Elmhurst - 28
Benedictine - 20



Baseman, I used your template, I hope you don't mind, It is good to see everyone's diffrent posts for this week, Lets get ready for a great season of D3 football!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 29, 2007, 10:37:11 AM
Yeah Madfrog, are you kidding me??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on August 29, 2007, 11:09:15 AM
QuoteMAC, could their heads already be down? Has anyone been watching their practices or heard any updates on what they look like?

Haven't heard on how their camp went as far as practices.  Did hear that they had about 60 kids show, 30 of which were freshmen.  Gonna be a long year for the boys in J-Ville, but hopefully this will be the start of something good..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on August 29, 2007, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 29, 2007, 10:37:11 AM
Yeah Madfrog, are you kidding me??

Well I wasn't exactly being serious.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 29, 2007, 02:32:25 PM
QuoteWell I wasn't exactly being serious.

So since you weren't being exactly serious does that mean you think CUC is going to win?

Only 3 days.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 29, 2007, 03:02:29 PM
Oh yeah, and someone tell the CUC website people to get the roster and team photos updated.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on August 29, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 29, 2007, 02:32:25 PM
QuoteWell I wasn't exactly being serious.

So since you weren't being exactly serious does that mean you think CUC is going to win?

Only 3 days.....

Yeah odds are they will, but I was going for reaction.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 29, 2007, 08:36:24 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 29, 2007, 03:02:29 PM
Oh yeah, and someone tell the CUC website people to get the roster and team photos updated.

Call the school and ask for Jim Egan...tell him to get his arse in gear....there is a site that you could see all the individual photos but I don't know what it is...wait, yes I do...I just don't want to tell you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NoNeedToHideMyName on August 29, 2007, 11:51:33 PM
Augustana vs MAC :                       Augustana 49, Mac 0
CUC vs Blackburn :                         CUC 35, Blackburn 14
CUW vs Simpson :                          Simpson 28, CUW 21 (Simpson pulls it out at Bill Buxton returning to 03 form)
UW-Whitewater vs Lakeland          UW 49, Lakeland 21 (This may be a bit of a stretch)
Eureka vs Knox  :                           Knox 28, Eureka 7
Aurora vs Wisc. Lutheran               Aurora 35, Wisc. Lutheran 7
Elmhurst vs Benedictine :              Elmhurst 42, Benedictine 14 (I'm not feeling the Benedictine hype just yet)

No real surprises this week. Good luck to all teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 30, 2007, 08:23:35 AM
Generally speaking, no big surprises in what most have picked as winners /losers for this week-ends games. I do have a question for the "believers" though and that is, nobody from CU-C made the Coaches Preseason Top 10 to watch in 2007 as shown on the IBFC site. With all the talent (as reported by some) you`d think the coaches would find somebody to "watch." Civil replies welcomed, rantings expected.
   Picks for the week-end of Sept 1st:
     (1)   Greenville................... gets to watch.
      (2)  Knox at Eureka: Last year they were a combined 2-18. This should
     be a good game in that both are almost equal in talent.  Should be a
      toss up but I`ll go with Knox.
      (3) Con, W  vs  Simpson:  Good opening game for Con,W as they will get to work out any kinks for the more meaningful conference games.
      Con,W gets the "W."
     (4) Aurora   at  Wis. Lutheran: Last year was a so-so season for Aurora as they went 5-5 overall. Lutheran was 0-10.  On a yearly basis Aurora has guality athletes and this year is no different. Expect them to be there at the end.
     Aurora beats up on the Lutherans.
   (5) Elmhurst at BU:  Two middle of the road teams as last years they were a combined 10-10.
     Bu is looking to turn the corner and be a "player" in the IBC and maybe they will be but I think Elmhurst takes Bu in a close game.
    (6) MacMurray at Augustana:  Talk about a death wish.  Mac has turned into a bottom feeder. No disrespect to the players  as the program is run by the school.  Maybe they`ll be a player in that other league.
    Augustana is and has been a strong program for a long time and this year is no exception. Expect them to "tune " up on a very weak Mac team.
    Score is really unimportant  but  the experience will last a very long time.
     Augustana gets the "W."
    (7) UW-WhiteWater at Lakeland: Whoa!!  One things for sure the LC fans will get to see a great team........ and it ain`t LC.  If Maddog where alive (he is, but must be retired) he`d swear that if it hadn`t rained during last years game LC would have won. Now there`s a "Homer" for you.
   LC has a new coach, as most know and with a new coach comes change. You can bet he knew what was coming and he`s done the best he could
   but UW-WW has been to the finals the last 2 years and is a TOP program in D-3 so Katty bar the door as  Paul Bunyan is about to trample your house.
     UW-WW gets the "W." 
   CU-C  at Blackburn: Interesting game. Last year they were a combined
    5-15.  The "believers" aka, fans..........  are making all kinds of noise about the fortunes of their program. As the Cougars have been less then stellar for a lot of years I wish them well. If all their comments about how good the new players are becomes a reality (winning games) then the Cougars will have done themselves proud.
   Retort expected and welcomed but try to keep it civil.
   As far as WHO gets the "W?" I`ll go with the home team.......Blackburn.
     

     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 30, 2007, 10:29:33 AM
Gomer-

Eh, I really don't know if being in the top 10 players to watch list means your team is going to be great.  CUC was picked in front of Eureka & Macmurray and they have players on the top 10 watch list, so I don't think it means much.  Plus CUC has won only 2 games in the last 3 years so they haven't gotten any respect..........yet.

CUC also has like 25-30 guys transferred in from FL, so not much is known about their skills.  To be honest since I haven't seen them play in an actual game I could be way off.  And going back to the lack of respect, there are a bunch of returning quality players.  I see the QB #4 being close to the top if not the top of the IBC along with WR #11.  O-Lineman #73 is damn solid and should get some respect toward the end of the season.  Sorry no name dropping, have to figure it out on your own.

As for your Blackburn win, everyone is entitled to their opinions, if you honestly think Blackburn is going to get the "W" then that's cool with me.  None of us will ever know anyhow until the final buzzer on Saturday.

Did Maddog honestly say if it wasn't raining LC would have won that game? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on August 30, 2007, 02:08:49 PM
BU v Elmhurst will be close for 3 quarters, but unfortunately the BU offense will not be able to keep up with Elmhurst.  BU's defense will be in the top 2 in the IBC but they will struggle on offense.  just like 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 30, 2007, 02:50:37 PM
baseman201:
  (1)   It was just a question.  CU_C posters touted the newbies so much I felt it was an honest question. Again my question was, there were no  CU-C players in the Top 10.  Nothing about where the teams were picked or how many games were won or anything about respect.  You seemed to think I ment more. Nope.

  (2) "Lack of respect" ...  Just for the record, that`s your phase not mine.

  (3)  Do I honestly think Blackburn is going to win?  I`ve got a 50/50. 
   Thems good odds.  Notice I didn`t light up anybody because of their selections. 

   (4)  Maddog was/is a piece of work. He once called the LC line.....NFL
     types.  He and I go back a long time. Did he say that?  In context,  The coach at the time eluded to the rain factor as being one of the reasons for their loss. Plus Maddogs son was on IR due to an injury but came in later on and staged a mini rally for LC. That plus the rain got the ..... we shoulda
  woulda, coulda response.
  Lots of good comments/opinions on here (for the most part) and your questions  are always welcomed but thats not licence to change my comments to your thought process. I think if you re-read my post you`ll better understand what I ment.
   I can defend my comments but not when they are transposed into another  context.  I`m not "bashing" just trying to explain.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 30, 2007, 10:27:41 PM
Augustana vs MAC : This game will look like the Louisville Murray St. game....Auggie will win by a lot and destroy MACs pride if there is any over there.   59-10           

CUC vs Blackburn :  We all know who I am going to pick in this game but I will say it anyways...CUC takes this one. fast paced offense and fast defense...according to Blackburns site, they have had a great strength and conditioning offseason. Hey, thats great...so has CUC.     42-14     

CUW vs Simpson :  CuW will come out strong to show the conference they still think they are the Champs. Simpson is too weak to beat this team.        38-24                       

UW-Whitewater vs Lakeland  : HAHAHA...have fun baby cheeseheads...the first and second stringers are going to demolish you. Whitewater will try to top there blow out from last year and win.     78-21     

Eureka vs Knox  :  Toilet Bowl game of the week??? Knox takes this game...will there ever be hope at Eureka? Eureka only scores because the dude in the trailer behind their field told the refs he would only give the game ball back if he gives Eureka some points on the board.  28-7             

Aurora vs Wisc. Lutheran  : Just looked at Wisc. Lutherans standings from last year....ouch. Aurora flies through this game with no problem.  35-0             

Elmhurst vs Benedictine  : Benedictines lack of offense will catch up to them in this game. Elmhurst is a strong team as always and this will not be a close game. Elmhurst gets the W.      31-10

these are just predictions...I do however hope that the IBFC teams do well and give this last season as a conference a good look. Good luck to all.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 30, 2007, 10:33:18 PM
BUFAN;
Is it true that the Benedictine QB (starter from last year) and from Marian Central has quit the team? If it is true, what happened?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog08 on August 30, 2007, 11:21:00 PM
Gomer my Homer Friend, Yes I am still alive, Been reading your post all the time, miss my geek friend. How have you been the last 2 years. Look forward to talking to you this year but I must say, from what I have read you haven't missed a beat.

As for me working my tail off at the plant in Cleveland now. Left the BIG HOUSE but still and will always root for Michigan and the Blue and Gold MUSKIES!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 31, 2007, 07:31:23 AM
Maddog:  AKA...Mel Allen..........................Welcome back!

   I`ve missed the worlds biggest "Homer."  Plant in  Cleveland?  You went from sweeping floors in Detroit to head broom and mop honcho at an
   old Tucker plant. Was that a transfer or just a lateral?  No matter, they got the right guy for the job. ;D ;D ;D ;D
    Looking forward to your insight.  How`s your son doing/what`s he doing?
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 31, 2007, 12:34:21 PM
QuoteCall the school and ask for Jim Egan...tell him to get his arse in gear

Well ok, I just emailed Jim about it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on August 31, 2007, 12:42:40 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 31, 2007, 12:34:21 PM
QuoteCall the school and ask for Jim Egan...tell him to get his arse in gear

Well ok, I just emailed Jim about it.

You are a good man. I love you in a non-gay way.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on August 31, 2007, 01:18:17 PM
Yeah...he's right.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on August 31, 2007, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: old 40 on August 30, 2007, 10:33:18 PM
BUFAN;
Is it true that the Benedictine QB (starter from last year) and from Marian Central has quit the team? If it is true, what happened?

Hmmm that could be no bueno for the Eagles.  However looking at thier roster this is the largest team at BU I've seen since back in 01 and 02 when they were competitive in the IBC.  I'm impressed that Cooper is bringing in more talent and more bodies.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 01, 2007, 02:50:22 PM
anyone else listening to the Whitewater at Lakeland game online? Score right now is 10-0 Whitewater around 9mins left in the 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BoBo on September 01, 2007, 03:14:00 PM
Any update on the Lakeland game?...I can't seem to get a connection.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 01, 2007, 03:17:52 PM
Justin Beaver just ran like 28 yds for a TD. Score is like 20-0 now Whitewater almost halftime.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BoBo on September 01, 2007, 03:24:03 PM
Thanks madfrog for the update.  +K
Pls keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BoBo on September 01, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
madfrog, what's going on in Lakeland?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 01, 2007, 04:01:17 PM
Ok, Whitewater just scored again it is 27-0. 6minutes left in the 3rd Quarter..

Check that 27-7.. Macarthur White just ran a Kick off for a touch-down.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 01, 2007, 04:38:32 PM
My last post for this game. Currently the score is 41-7 in favor of Whitewater with 5minutes left in the game Lakelands Ball, Whitewater has mostly backups in.

Lakeland has only got 2 total first downs coming on their first drive. No running game at all for Lakeland really hurts them Passing game did okay.. Defense had a few injuries.. Whitewater played Smart and Tough liked most figured they would do.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 01, 2007, 04:47:08 PM
Closer game then I thought

but I assume WWs 2nd string was in there alot of the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 01, 2007, 04:49:33 PM
Off the D3 Scorboard:
   Aurora 7
   Wis Luth 23  in the 3rd Q. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 01, 2007, 04:56:16 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 01, 2007, 04:47:08 PM
Closer game then I thought

but I assume WWs 2nd string was in there alot of the 2nd half.

Just the fourth Quarter. Started pretty much played every minute of the 3rd, well everyone but Justin Beaver. Lakeland clearly has some major issues at the RB position. Starters played all game for Lakeland, expect the running backs in which case they tried several different backs in the Fourth Quarter.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BoBo on September 01, 2007, 05:04:18 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 01, 2007, 04:47:08 PM
Closer game then I thought

but I assume WWs 2nd string was in there alot of the 2nd half.

With the next WW game in two weeks at D2 St. Cloud State, I think it would be fair to say WW didn't want to show a whole lot in today's game anyway.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 01, 2007, 05:12:55 PM
Damn, Wisc Lutheran looks like they may hang on Vs. Aurora.

So much for picking Aurora to win big.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 01, 2007, 05:49:58 PM
Simpson 14
CUW         3

Don't know anything else. 

Any other scores?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 01, 2007, 07:01:19 PM
I hear by after this weeks performances proclaim LAKELAND COLLEGE the Conference Champions. ALL the other losing teams or winning teams, I am mocking you because the competition you scheduled this week does not rival that of UW-Whitewater. In which case Mac would have lost 130-0, Aurora what happened? Eureka no surpise, CuW come on! Conference Champions Spoz to win games not lose. Greenville Cheers to you! Benedictine and CuC waiting on scores, but win or lost makes no difference because these are the 2 easiest teams our conference play this week.

To bad still games to be played.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NoNeedToHideMyName on September 01, 2007, 10:24:38 PM
CUC 33 - Blackburn 14 (the score was something like that)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 01, 2007, 10:39:04 PM
Most pretty much had all the game predictions right with exception of Aurora....some also picked CUW over Simpson as well.

Lakeland seemed to hang in there Vs. Whitewater and their starters.

Although as someone said Beaver did come out of the game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 01, 2007, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 01, 2007, 10:39:04 PM
Most pretty much had all the game predictions right with exception of Aurora....some also picked CUW over Simpson as well.

Lakeland seemed to hang in there Vs. Whitewater and their starters.

Although as someone said Beaver did come out of the game.


Yeah beaver was out around 10minutes left in the 3rd, but they had the rest of their starters in tell the 4th. Lakeland will be on and off this year. Offensively this game they were for sure off while defensively played I guess you could say solid. AND OMFG CUC won.. How on earth did that happen, lol.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 01, 2007, 11:57:52 PM
Holy Cow.....Cougs Win!






(In my best Harry Carrey impression)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 02, 2007, 12:19:03 AM
CUC defeats Blackburn 33-14. Ridiculous amount of penalties on the offensive side and if that wasn't the case the score could of been a little more. Over 100 yards on penalties. :-\

It is too early to make predictions on who is going to be the conference champ. It is only week 1.

Any word on Eureka or Benedictines scores?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: KickerEC99 on September 02, 2007, 12:35:15 AM
Eureka - 14
Knox - 33

16 flags in the game for a total of 174 yards.

10 for 111 yards were Eureka penalties.

Two penalties occurred and took away interceptions by Eureka.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 02, 2007, 12:36:11 AM
Benedictine 3, Elmhurst 52.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 02, 2007, 02:33:23 AM
Uhm, benedictine ouch.......

yeah, the CUC game could have been alot uglier if it wasn't for the 100 yards in penalties......but it's the woulda, coulda, shoulda game I guess.

Weeks is just awesome, the RBs are studs and the O-Line is more solid then it has ever been.  No more taking CUC lightly for ANY team....honestly, but I guess like Fartcus said it's only week 1, alot of football to be played.

Big test next week against a good Chicago squad, will be the decider on if CUC can get it done this year. 

And as we saw with Michigan today....anything is possible.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 02, 2007, 07:59:19 AM
 First week down:
    Lutherns 23  AU 13.  Lutherns went from 0-10 last year to beating AU.
    Looks like praying does pay off.
    UW_WW-41  LC 7.   LC will probably look at this as a moral victory. 
    Maddog, your guys did score 7. 
    MacMurray "0"    Augie  65!!   MacMurray has nobody to blame but themselves. The Admin got rid/fired/terminated all connected to the football program plus they "had" one of the worst SID`s in the conference bar none. 
   Their football program is in shambles and the prospect for them going
    0-10 is a strong probability. To bad for the players.
    The "believers" got a very nice "W" against Blackburn. Congratulations.
    What happened to Con,Wis ?   This could be the year a wild-card type
    of team (from the usual) has a real chance to step up and win the IBFC.
    Next week we`ll a chance what Greenville has to offer.
    There were other games of course but.........
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 02, 2007, 09:01:07 AM
After looking at the Mac blow out by Augie I got to wondering. 65 points!
   That`s a lot points in anybodies book so I did some checking and found
   that is the stand alone, "worst beating" Mac has EVER  had since they have been playing football which dates to 1985. 
    To go along with that, here is a quote from the new Coach. " The Highlanders hope to return to the form of 1996-2002 when they won 6 of 7
  conference championships and reached the NCAA playoffs."
   He recognises the past and has a hand in the worst defeat in MacMurray football history..... Irony is alive and well.     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 02, 2007, 09:14:32 AM
Congrats to CUC as they were the only IBFC team to win.

The Aurora score was a big surprise. Looks like Wisc. Luthern is getting ready for next year in the NAC.

CUW was also a surprise. UWW vs Lakeland showed off the premier QB in Danny Jones, the transfer from Pac Luthern. IMO one of the top QB's in the country. Beaver is certainly the real deal. I hope the fish can rebound and play well against a strong Carthage team.

Looks like this run for the IBFC crown will be a good one. I don't think I am going to change my predictions, it's early. This week will give us a better look at who might be the leader. Can the teams who lost rebound? Who had alot of injuries? Good luck to all next week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 02, 2007, 12:32:47 PM
Old 40-

Actually Danny Jones transferred from Cal Lutheran, not Pac Lutheran, but I will forgive you this time.

I hear that CUWs offense is a little iffy this year.....although the Bears made it to the Super Bowl with just a defense I guess..........

And it's LutherAn.....not Luthern, don't forget about the "A".

After seeing some scores from yesterday, depending on how Greenville does this Saturday, I like Greenville possibly to win the IBC this year and CUC maybe to finish higher then what most people thought.

Will have some predictions later in the week.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 02, 2007, 12:56:26 PM
The Cougars play University of Chicago next week at home and this will definately be a true testfor them. The returners are looking for some revenge as U of Chicago demolished them last year. With a stronger defense and a powerful and fast offense, this is going to be one hell of a game.

Who is CUWs next opponent and what is that looking like?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on September 02, 2007, 09:33:07 PM
Yes Mac did get destroyed but they are starting alot of freshman and why is this a shocker to anyone? You all were saying mac was bad and didnt stand a chance.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NoNeedToHideMyName on September 02, 2007, 10:14:32 PM
I wouldn't write CUW off just yet...Simpson is not a bad team at all. Take a look at their conference and where they historically sit in the final standings.  They are in the mix with Wartburg, Central and Coe which are all pretty good teams in a pretty strong conference.  CUW is still the team to beat in my opinion it's not like they were knocked off by a team that was 0-10 last year. Unfortunately, it will not get any easier next week when they play North Central.   I look forward to watching each team scratch and claw for wins I don't think there will be very many in conference blow outs this year.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 03, 2007, 06:24:28 PM
Baseman

sorry for the mistakes. I new the QB was from Calif., just not sure what school. He is one of the best I have seen in awhile. Spelling is not my forte. No harm intended.  Did your team win this past week?

Gomer;

Any news from the Mac faithfull on the lost? Were there any injuries? Based on the coaches comment that he wants to return to the days of the championships, is a good comment but may take a light year or two to get there. IMO the school admin will not allow that to happen because of what they must do to get there, more financial aid and the ability to get kids in school who don't test well. Your comments appreciated.

Tru Country;

Good Luck to your Greenville team this week. Did they have a warm up scrimmage this past week? If they did who did they play and how did they do? What was your thoughts on the first weeks action? Did the Aurora and CUW scores surprise you?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Macinsidelady on September 03, 2007, 10:58:57 PM
I agree with Rucker... I am not surprised by Mac's loss, especially since they were playing one of the best D3 teams in the nation their first time on the field this season. I am HOPEFUL, like the new Coach (re-read his quote... Sweeney wasn't being over-confident, he was sending out a positive message for his players) that they will be a winning team this year.

Gentlemen, from what I see on the inside, MacMurray's team is primed for a Renaissance experience. The new Coach is young, vibrant and smart. The players have heart and determination... the new President and administration are standing behind them all. My vote is, you won't recognize this team or their record by the end of the season. I hope you enjoy the show as much as I plan to from my bird's eye view...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 03, 2007, 11:15:41 PM
Mac...lady,

I like your spirit! +k :)

[I fear you're in for disappointment (Augie is not THAT good!), but good luck to you and your team!]
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on September 03, 2007, 11:24:46 PM
Hey, I agree with both Rucker and lady.

As a recent alum in May, I know a bunch about the non-football side of things, the campus atmospehere if you will, and can tell you all about that stuff.

There has been a lot of harping on Mac administration, and for good reason.  In the past, the people from the top to the AD and SID just had little support for everyone.  The AD started out well and was pushed into some tough situations, but he also made some poor decisions.

I know that people are raving about this new President, and I believe she will make a lot of changes.  I hear she is very pro-active.

Also, in terms of cash, while Mac isn't rolling in dough, they have seen increased donations through alumni in the last two years, way over their goals.

So, while Mac has had hard times, the future does look bright, which can only mean good things for all its athletic programs.  The new coach for football is also stressing academics and responsibility, so hopefully the "dirty play" that everyone has complained of in the past will go down as well.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on September 04, 2007, 01:29:01 AM
I will add, on behalf of the SID, that she has many jobs besides that so that is not totally her fault either.  SID wasn't her main job.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 10:32:37 AM
Quote from: mac_grad on September 04, 2007, 01:29:01 AM
I will add, on behalf of the SID, that she has many jobs besides that so that is not totally her fault either.  SID wasn't her main job.
On the official web-site of MacMurray Athletics, Dave Urbanek is listed as the current SID. Who are you referring too?
   On the ladies softball coaches bio( Ms Whitaker) it says she is the SID.
    How many SID`s does Mac have?   ??? 
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 04, 2007, 10:50:40 AM
QuoteOn the official web-site of MacMurray Athletics, Dave Urbanek is listed as the current SID. Who are you referring too? On the ladies softball coaches bio (Ms Whitaker) it says she is the SID.  How many SID`s does Mac have?

Obviously not enough to keep their athletics website halfway updated.. 

I don't know anything about Rockford, but it'll be interesting to see how the youngsters respond to a good whipping.  Hopefully Sweeney has managed their expectations well enough for them to get past it and get back to work for this week.  I look for an improvement from last week.  Lets face it, it can't get much worse!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 11:10:59 AM
Old 40:
    A couple of the old-faithful wanted to puke, guys(starters) who were  on those championship teams of 2001 and 2002. 
    I wonder how many of those freshmen will want to come back to a bottomed out program that next year will be in that other conference with no chance at an NCAA play-off game. That being due to the new conference start up.  Down the road they will be eligible though.
  If and when Mac posts a football Player roster (2007) then "all" can see what the make up is of their team. Wonder when that will be as it the OLD one was still up this morning. Same old Mac.
    Mac plays Rockford at home this sat and they (Rockford) also play a lot of freshmen. I wonder what the Mac folks will come up with when They (Mac) get beat by a "team that also plays a lot of freshmen?"
   
   
 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 04, 2007, 11:47:52 AM
Gomer

I saw Rockford last year against Aurora and Rockford man handled them. They were a Senior dominated team last season. I know they run the wing t very well and play a very swarming pressure defense. Mac should be competitiuve because this is a big drop from Augie. If they are not competitive it will be a long long year.
I hope they do well.

What were your thoughts on the Aurora lost, if any?

I think Mac web site is living in the past. It would only take a little bit of time to update. This is the worst one in the IBFC. It's the little things that show everyone that they are committed.

Whats your picks for this week. I am leaning for a couple of upsets. IMO, Lakeland may catch Carthage, it should be a good game. CUW may surprise NCC. It will be a tough game but the lost will focus them on this game. I will post my picks later.

I would like all the IBFC teams win at least 50% of the games this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 11:53:31 AM
Mac_5_seven

    Have you looked at the Mac Athletic web-site? If you have, what`s your 
     assessment of it ?   What about the graphics? The over all lay out?
     Being current....2007?  Remember, Mac has a computer dept.  Example,
    BU has a nice one plus their History section is very good as well. Where`s Mac`s  History Records section? Oh, I forgot, it was DELETED while under the watchful eye of an un-named SID. 25 years (give or take)
    of player football history down the tube.  Can`t be replaced because
    there was no back-up.
    To make matters worse, all involved in that fiasco are gone(except one) and nobody knows anything about anything. 
    Funny thing though, this SID started out to re-do the Football web-site
    and look at it now. You be the judge.

     
   Old 40:
      I would ask you the same question.   

    One poster is trying to say (I believe) it`s in that sorry mess because
     the SID, has/had "other" duties. Maybe Mac_ grad  will/can clarify. 
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 04, 2007, 12:00:03 PM
Gomer

Aurora has started slow the last few years but this lost was a surprise since the WL team was coming off a 0-10 year. Aurora's defense was to be their strong suit this year and they gave up some deep passes early. Looks like the offense struggled. They have Coe this week and it may be worst than last year. I hope not. They should be a contender with the athletes they have on defense but if the offense can't fire then it could be a difficult year,IMO.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 04, 2007, 12:03:09 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 11:53:31 AM
Mac_5_seven

    Have you looked at the Mac Athletic web-site? If you have, what`s your 
     assessment of it ?   What about the graphics? The over all lay out?
     Being current....2007?  Remember, Mac has a computer dept.  Example,
    BU has a nice one plus their History section is very good as well. Where`s Mac`s  History Records section? Oh, I forgot, it was DELETED while under the watchful eye of an un-named SID. 25 years (give or take)
    of player football history down the tube.  Can`t be replaced because
    there was no back-up.
    To make matters worse, all involved in that fiasco are gone(except one) and nobody knows anything about anything. 
    Funny thing though, this SID started out to re-do the Football web-site
    and look at it now. You be the judge.

     
   Old 40:
      I would ask you the same question.   

    One poster is trying to say (I believe) it`s in that sorry mess because
     the SID, has/had "other" duties. Maybe Mac_ grad  will/can clarify. 
     
   

I think its a decent start.  My only gripe about it is that we're coming up on week two of the '07 season and still having write ups about last years games doesn't cut it.  Not to mention what you said about the roster still being from the '06 squad..  Maybe they should hire "Tornado" Tom Lenz to take over the SID reigns again.   ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 04, 2007, 12:03:31 PM
Gomer

I talked to Bob Frey last night. They are going to have a good ball club at Olivet. They will be one of the contenders this year. Look for Bob to get a Head coaching job next year. They open this week at IWU in Bloomington.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 12:09:19 PM
Old 40:
   Aurora is a mystery to me and always has been By that I mean they always seen to have really good athletes. Year in and year out. But for some reason or another they`re always a bride`s maid and never the bride except in 2004 when they played Wooster (NCAA)  but lost in a whale of a game. 
   They open the season by losing to "The Luthern`s. "  Wis Lutheran for those who like accuracy.  Who, had a record of 0-10 last year. Go figure.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 04, 2007, 12:12:33 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 04, 2007, 12:03:31 PM
Gomer

I talked to Bob Frey last night. They are going to have a good ball club at Olivet. They will be one of the contenders this year. Look for Bob to get a Head coaching job next year. They open this week at IWU in Bloomington.

I still think it's hilarious that Frey is coaching O-line, especially after knowing how hard he rode us when he was at Mac..   :D  Did he say if he had any leads in HC posts next year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 12:15:47 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 04, 2007, 12:03:31 PM
Gomer

I talked to Bob Frey last night. They are going to have a good ball club at Olivet. They will be one of the contenders this year. Look for Bob to get a Head coaching job next year. They open this week at IWU in Bloomington.

  Frey might have been a LB at Mount Union but one things for sure..........................he can`t fish worth a lick!!  Plus, he`s a sissy.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 12:20:16 PM
Mac _5_seven:
    Have you seem Coach Frey`s picture on the Olivet site.  Post Office 
    material.  Check it out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 12:32:42 PM
Old 40:
    Thursday is usually my prognosticating day. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 04, 2007, 01:31:36 PM
Hey, only Tuesday but here are my predictions for week 2

CUW Vs. North Central:
Apperently CUW is "iffy" on offense and is rebuilding after losing some key components.  With only 30 yards rushing and 80 yards passing against Simpson

CUW - 10
North Central - 40

MAC Vs. Rockford:
Rockford has been pretty consistent going 7-3 the past 4 years.  Pretty decent team, although they did get blown out last week.  Has a potential to be a good game, but seeing how MAC is in shambles pretty much everywhere, I go with Rockford on this one, but not by much.

MAC - 7
Rockford - 17

Greenville Vs. Blackburn:
Considering CUC could have beaten Blackburn by alot more (woulda, coulda, shoulda game) Greenville is going to mandhandle this team, enough said.

Greenville - 45
Blackburn - 3

Aurora Vs. Coe:
Ehhhh, Coe has just been too dominant the past few years to lose to Aurora.  I wish I could say Aurora is going to win, but I just can't.

Coe - 38
Aurora - 7

CUC Vs. U. of Chicago:
Last year CUC got smacked around and lost 55-0.  This year is a different story, U. of Chicago needs to watch out.  But still my "Undecided" game of the week.

CUC - ?
U. of Chicago - ?

Benedictine Vs. North Park:
Benedictine rolls in this one.  But if they lose, I am not thinking they will finish 5th in the conference.

Benedictine - 28
North Park - 7

Lakeland Vs. Carthage:
Lakeland has a chance and will win this one.

Lakeland - 17
Carthage - 14

Looking forward to seeing others predictions as well.

And on a side note, #11 (on CUC) nice face on the team photo man.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on September 04, 2007, 01:50:44 PM
I am not sure exactly who is the current SID.  At one point in time, it was the women's softball coach, who also became the women's volleyball coach and the interim AD for a short time.  That being said, she was a very busy person.

Dave Urbanek is in charge of Pub. Relations, so I'm not sure if he is also the SID.  I heard that they recently hired a new SID that is going to re-do the whole website, but I can't tell you if that's 100% true or not.

I agree with everyone though.  The website isn't that bad looking, it's just very poorly updated.  I know that current students are frustrated with it as well and have tried to get it fixed in the past, so hopefully the rumors of a new SID are true.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 04, 2007, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 12:20:16 PM
Mac _5_seven:
    Have you seem Coach Frey`s picture on the Olivet site.  Post Office 
    material.  Check it out.

Oh yeah, its a classic for sure!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on September 04, 2007, 03:26:21 PM
Base, I used you template - Thanks, to save time and my fat fingers.

CUW Vs. North Central:
I think Cuw will have a little trouble moving the ball, probably get a turn over score that will help. defense better step up.

CUW - 17
North Central - 31

MAC Vs. Rockford:
Two teams trying to rebuild. Rockford trying to replace loses, and Mac trying to regain respect. I think both will play hard and be a close game

MAC - 17
Rockford - 21

Greenville Vs. Blackburn:
Greenville Coaches won't let this get out of hand. Plus first game mistakes will keep it from being a complete blow out. But they have three tough games in a row, so they will have to work on their game.Greenville dominates!

Greenville - 49
Blackburn - 14

Aurora Vs. Coe:
Aurora will play better this week, but not sure it will be enough. Teams will need to respect them as they always peak at the right time.

Coe - 28
Aurora - 21

CUC Vs. U. of Chicago:
CUC has to just take one game at a time and build each week.  Baby steps always come before the running. CUC  will get this one on heart.

CUC - 17
U. of Chicago - 14

Benedictine Vs. North Park:
Benedictine will get on track in this one. Defense will step up.

Benedictine - 35
North Park - 7

Lakeland Vs. Carthage:
Lakeland has always played a tough non- conf schedule. throw in the changes in the staff, it will take a few weeks to stable the ship. But then all will be fine. Muskies get this one

Lakeland - 24
Carthage - 17

Looking forward to seeing others predictions as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 04:03:19 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 10:32:37 AM
Quote from: mac_grad on September 04, 2007, 01:29:01 AM
I will add, on behalf of the SID, that she has many jobs besides that so that is not totally her fault either.  SID wasn't her main job.
On the official web-site of MacMurray Athletics, Dave Urbanek is listed as the current SID. Who are you referring too?
   On the ladies softball coaches bio( Ms Whitaker) it says she is the SID.
    How many SID`s does Mac have?   ??? 
   
   
   

Mac_grad: Don`t dance around, Do your home-work. Dave Urbanek "IS "the SID. The Mac web site says so,  Ask him!
   As far as being ,"a very busy person." That being your take on why she did such a lousy job (maintaining the football site) as SID, It would have been better if your had said,  she just can`t multi task or she was just over her head in the capacity of SID.  Busy! Really!!
   In the context of web-sites, the one we`re talking about specifically  is the............football site, not the over-all web site. 
   A retort is welcomed, but make sure you have the "facts."
   
   

 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 04, 2007, 04:06:46 PM
baseman201:
     "woulda, coulda, shoulda"  Hey , that`s my stuff.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 04, 2007, 04:09:11 PM
Mac-5-seven

Bob has a couple of possibilities wiyh new schools and I would think with his past record he will be in the running on acouple of jobs that will open up. Can't explain anymore at this time.

He pushed you hard and if my guess was right most of the outcomes were pretty good.

Bob has never taken a good picture and I beleive he was a DB at MUC. Most likely the fattest and slowest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 04, 2007, 04:12:35 PM
A question for all;

Next year the IBFC disbands and teams go to the NAC and SLIAC. Did anyone see the score for Maranatha Baptist on Sat.? Who are the new SLIAC teams, I think they are out of the South. Did they play and if so what were their results.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2007, 05:02:55 PM
You may find D3football.com of use here:

Search for SLIAC (http://www.google.com/custom?sa=Search&domains=D3football.com&q=SLIAC&sitesearch=D3football.com&client=pub-3510730445603784&forid=1&channel=5975436822&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=active&cof=GALT%3A%23FF0000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23FFFFFF%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A000000%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%0D%0A%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A429%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.d3football.com%2Fd3flogo50h.jpg%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.d3football.com%3BF%0D%0AORID%3A1%3B&hl=en)

Last week's scores:
http://www.d3football.com/schedule.php?year=2007&week=1
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 04, 2007, 05:07:37 PM
Gomer-
Do you mind if I use it???   ;D

timewilltell-
Right on with your predictions, I agree with all of them.

Fartcus-
Saw the Cougar statue in the Media Guide, pretty sweet man.

Pat-
Hi
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on September 04, 2007, 05:11:38 PM
I refuse to say she couldn't multi-task, because she held three or four other positions and did OK with them.  That position was thrusted on her by people who kept wanting to push the buck, and yes, the football page is horrible but so is the rest of the webpage.  Everyone on here makes comments about how the whole athletic program is going down the tubes, that is why I spoke of the whole sight. not just the football aspect.

As for the SID, although you're words weren't exactly nice, I will agree that you were right about the current SID and apologize for not being accurate.  Like I said, I have heard that a new SID has been hired recently but can't be 100% sure.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 04, 2007, 05:20:44 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 04, 2007, 04:09:11 PM
Mac-5-seven

Bob has a couple of possibilities wiyh new schools and I would think with his past record he will be in the running on acouple of jobs that will open up. Can't explain anymore at this time.

He pushed you hard and if my guess was right most of the outcomes were pretty good.

Bob has never taken a good picture and I beleive he was a DB at MUC. Most likely the fattest and slowest.

He most certainly pushed us, as did our position coach Cochran.  That guy might belong in an institution!  I think for his next job, Frey should bring back the 'stache and mullet look..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 05, 2007, 08:58:58 AM
Old 40:
     Just for the record, Ask Frey if he was a DB or  LB at MU. 
     I could have sworn he told me....LB but `i`ve been wrong before.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 05, 2007, 09:06:55 AM
baseman201:
     Absolutely.   I`ve used that many a time When Maddog would go off
     about Lakeland.
    Use it wisely........Grass-hopper.   :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 05, 2007, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: mac_grad on September 04, 2007, 05:11:38 PM
I refuse to say she couldn't multi-task, because she held three or four other positions and did OK with them.  That position was thrusted on her by people who kept wanting to push the buck, and yes, the football page is horrible but so is the rest of the webpage.  Everyone on here makes comments about how the whole athletic program is going down the tubes, that is why I spoke of the whole sight. not just the football aspect.

As for the SID, although you're words weren't exactly nice, I will agree that you were right about the current SID and apologize for not being accurate.  Like I said, I have heard that a new SID has been hired recently but can't be 100% sure.


(1)  How come she did ok with 3 or 4 other positions (your take) but was less then stellar as an SID?  You`ve offered nothing but excuses.
   (2) Football web page..........and your word "horrible"  seems like a good fit.
   (3) "but so is the rest of the web page".............I`ll insert horrible again.
    (4) "about how the whole Athletic program is going down the tubes" 
     This is a football site in case you missed it. I doubt if the posters care
     about ladies softball. 
   (5)"I will agree that you were right"  Thank you and  apology accepted.
    (6)" although your words weren`t exactly nice" Your words to my comments about the SID from hell. If she would have put just a little effort into her assigned duties neither of us would be offended.
    Thank you for your comments plus your aware-ness about the "horrible
    condition of the football web page.
    This discussion has about run it`s course. No further comments 
     needed/required. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 05, 2007, 09:54:03 AM
Having been an SID (years ago, granted) and having observed hundreds of them in the past decade, I can tell you that being SID alone is about a 50-hour-a-week job at a school with football.

If someone is also assigned non-SID duties along with being an SID, then the SID job simply won't get done in a complete way. Simple math.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on September 05, 2007, 10:01:47 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 04, 2007, 01:31:36 PM


Lakeland Vs. Carthage:
Lakeland has a chance and will win this one.

Lakeland - 17
Carthage - 14

Looking forward to seeing others predictions as well.

Did you see lakeland play last week or is this just a gut pick?  Why, do you think so? (beside the obvious that any team can win on any given saturday)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 05, 2007, 10:05:15 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 05, 2007, 09:54:03 AM
Having been an SID (years ago, granted) and having observed hundreds of them in the past decade, I can tell you that being SID alone is about a 50-hour-a-week job at a school with football.

If someone is also assigned non-SID duties along with being an SID, then the SID job simply won't get done in a complete way. Simple math.

  Point taken Pat.  I guess that`s the reason that site is in the condition
  it`s in.  
  Hopefully  Mac sees the error of their ways and in the futher The SID will be just that, an SID.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 05, 2007, 12:26:09 PM
QuoteLakeland Vs. Carthage:
Lakeland has a chance and will win this one.

Lakeland - 17
Carthage - 14

Looking forward to seeing others predictions as well.


Did you see lakeland play last week or is this just a gut pick?  Why, do you think so? (beside the obvious that any team can win on any given saturday)

Well, I picked them because they only gave up 41 points to UW-Whitewater.  I expected to see another 70+ point outing again.  So, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I guess it showed me their defense wasn't all that bad.  Although like someone said their running game was pretty much nothing.  Can't pass 95% of the time and be successful.......at least most aren't.

And watch for Copeland (RB for CUC) to rush for over 1,000 yards this season.  I know that's at least one person that should have been on the players to watch list.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on September 05, 2007, 12:44:47 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 05, 2007, 12:26:09 PM
QuoteLakeland Vs. Carthage:
Lakeland has a chance and will win this one.

Lakeland - 17
Carthage - 14

Looking forward to seeing others predictions as well.


Did you see lakeland play last week or is this just a gut pick?  Why, do you think so? (beside the obvious that any team can win on any given saturday)

Well, I picked them because they only gave up 41 points to UW-Whitewater.  I expected to see another 70+ point outing again.  So, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I guess it showed me their defense wasn't all that bad.  Although like someone said their running game was pretty much nothing.  Can't pass 95% of the time and be successful.......at least most aren't.

And watch for Copeland (RB for CUC) to rush for over 1,000 yards this season.  I know that's at least one person that should have been on the players to watch list.

Thanks I was just wondering, with no disrespect to lakeland.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 05, 2007, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 03, 2007, 06:24:28 PM

Tru Country;

Good Luck to your Greenville team this week. Did they have a warm up scrimmage this past week? If they did who did they play and how did they do? What was your thoughts on the first weeks action? Did the Aurora and CUW scores surprise you?


  I don't know if they scrimmage over the weekend or not.  We started harvesting last week so I haven't had time to see what's going on.  The AU score suprised me alot as did the CUW score.  Did not see those losses coming. Looking forward to the GC @ AU game.

Here's me predictions for this week........

Rockford vs MAC :   Rockford wins 35-6    

North Central vs CUW :  North Central wins 42-17

Coe vs Aurora : Coe wins 31-13

North Park vs BU : BU wins 14-17

Lakeland @ Carthage : Carthage wins 38-14

CUC vs Chicago : CUC wins 21-20

Greenville @ Blackburn: Greenville wins 55-12
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 05, 2007, 03:21:38 PM
Lakeland at Carthage (14-21) Lakeland will lose by the normal TD or FG. Carthage will play tougher not exactly better, but tougher and pull it out late in the game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 05, 2007, 04:30:25 PM
Picks for Sept 8;

Rockford over Mac; 52-0, The wingT will test the Mac defense. Rockford has to much speed on Defense.

NCC over CUW; 31-20, NCC will struggle early because it is their first game. CUW must find a way to score points on NCC, They need to score early,IMO.

Coe over AU; 38-6, Coe has more athletes, AU's offense must control the ball or it could be worse.

North Park loses to Benedictine; 12-13, NPU has 1st. game jitters, BU makes up for the awful showing last week. Their Defense scores 1/2 of the points.

Carthage loses to Lakeland; 20-21, This will be a close. Lakeland has to learn to win. Carthage won last year on last play of the game. Lakeland can only win if the Offense moves the ball. Maybe OT?

Chicago loses to CUC; 26-27, 1st game jitters for Chicago and it's on the road. CUC rebounds from last years one sided game. If CUC is to make a move this year to the top tier of the conference they have to Win this one.

Blackburn loses to GC; 0-56; Despite the 1st. game jitters, GU has more athletes and speed.

I was only 50% last week, pretty bad. I hope everyone's team wins and most importantly No Injuries.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 05, 2007, 08:56:31 PM
I have a question, maybe Pat can answer this one:

Why doesn't anyone from the New England Small College Athletic Conference make the playoffs?

I was thinking back to a little bit by Chris Berman a couple years ago about Trinity (Con.) winning 24 games in a row. 

Then why haven't they made the playoffs? or anyone else in the conference for that matter.

Just wondering,

thank you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 05, 2007, 09:48:21 PM
NESCAC has chosen to not participate in football playoffs (nor do they play ANY nonconference games).  Since they (obviously!) participate in other sports (Amherst is defending national champ in basketball), you'd have to ask the NESCAC powers-that-be for their reasoning.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 05, 2007, 11:56:12 PM
I was 5-7 last week thanks to CUW and AU. Appreciate it guys. Anyways...its HUMP day and here are my predictions for the week...template inspired by TruCountry this week...winners in bold.

Rockford vs MAC :   MAC...your coaches words were great and all but you lose this one as well....but at least score.  31-10 

North Central vs CUW :  CUWs struggling offense will continue to pull this team down in the non-conference games...just having a good defense isn't going to do it against a tough team like NC.  35-17

Coe vs Aurora : The Kohawks are going to roll all over the Spartans...sorry fellas, play hard.    38-14

North Park vs BU : This gets voted as the Toilet Bowl game of the week. Questionable on who to pick but since this is an IBFC board I will go for the Eagles.   21-10


Lakeland @ Carthage : I chose Carthage in this game because they beat a decent team (Carroll) 35-7 last week. Also, Lakeland has no running game this year and this will be a factor in this game.   24-14

CUC vs Chicago : Of coarse I pick CUC...will I ever pick against them? On the real...CUC has a bad bad taste in their mouth from last years wipe out...beating...on-slaught...whatever name you want to give it, they aren't liking it. Home-opener for CUC brings out a lot of emotion in this game along with the bad taste in their mouth. CUC needs to prove something and this is the game to do it.   28-10

Greenville @ Blackburn: Blackburn is going to get another beating two weeks in a row. Greenville Qb himself will be too much for this slow defense.   42-10

If my predictions are correct at least with the win/loss decisions this leaves the conference looking like so...

CUC: 2-0 (never seen before in schools history I believe)
Greenville: 1-0
Benedictine: 1-1
Eureka: 0-1
CUW: 0-2
Lakeland: 0-2
Aurora: 0-2
MAC: 0-2

good luck to all IBFC teams. ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 06, 2007, 12:36:18 AM
Fartcus-

Actually CUC started out 2-0 way back in 1999...of course then to go on and lose every game after that.  But nonetheless started off 2-0

And to the CUC football team....get freaking pissed man.  They beat you 55-0 last year, and I guarantee they think they are just going to easily do it again........this is the best team CUC has had in a LOOOONG time.

Just need to go out and prove it to the skeptics. (there are alot of them)

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 06, 2007, 08:01:48 AM
There's a lot of them for a reason....no offense just sayin' that CUC needs to prove it self and at least come close.......but who knows
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 06, 2007, 08:22:42 AM
 Week 2 of the season is upon us and the prognosticators thus far have done a nice job. Sensible picks with sound comment, at least in the posters view. The "believers " are excited and rightly so.  Some teams with high expectations have fallen- Con,Wis for one. Others have been trampled.
  This year, unlike years past, may see a totally different pecking order.
   Is it parity or will the cream rise to the top as suggested in the Coaches Poll (IBFC) 2007 with CU_W taking the title? 
    I`m thinking:
     (1)  Eureka: They have a bye this week but are looking forward to Sept 29th when they get Con,ILL at their house.
     (2) Lakeland at Carthage:  Lakeland was over their head last week but
      at least they scheduled a top notch team. It may help build team
      character but it goes as a "L" in the ledger. Home team, home crowd.
       Carthage should come out on top.
     (3) Chicago at Con, Ill : All the "believers" say it`s so ( a victory that is)
      Why not?  Don`t want to rile up anybody.
       Nope can`t do it.....................Chicago takes it.
      (4)  Rockford at MacMurray: What can you say? After the worst loss in school history (points) which some have attributed that to a freshmen
     ladden team this week won`t be any different.
       Rockford isn`t in the "AUGGIE" class but they will surely beat up on the
       MacMurray Freshmen  squad.
      (5) Coe at Aurora : The Kohawks (Coe) of the IIAC usually field a sound team finishing 3rd in their conferenc last year.  Add to that they blew up Aurora last year to the tune of 45-0.  Steady as she goes......COE.
      (6)Bendictine at North Park: First game of the season for NP. You know their ready.  Bu has already been in battle and got creamed by Elmhurst.
       Walking wounded ( BU) take the Vikings.
       (7)  Blackburn at Greenville: Greenville will make a statement with a
         big win over Blackburn. This could be their year (GC) so they need to show all who`s the boss!
       (8)   NorthCentral at Con,Wis.: The Falcons get the Cardinalsat home for what turns out as the rubber game.  They played twice year with each team winning one. CU-W took the first game in double OT but lost when it counted to NC in the NCAA play-off game.  So, it`s a home game for the Falcons, should have a big crowd, lots of noise plus they get to see a good game................................North Central smiling after the fat lady sings.
     
       
     

         
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: KickerEC99 on September 06, 2007, 08:41:31 AM
We're more looking forward to when North Park University comes to our house. On September 15!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 06, 2007, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: KickerEC99 on September 06, 2007, 08:41:31 AM
We're more looking forward to when North Park University comes to our house. On September 15!
I`m sure you are and good luck with that.  As Eureka has a .........BYE this sat, That comment was ment "for" the Con-C followers ( The Believers).
   Nothing like getting them jumping up and down as there`re prone to do
   when their cage is rattled. 
   They have a team they expect big things of as CU-C hasn`t been on the
    anybodies radar for quite some time. Winning games will cure that. 
       
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 06, 2007, 12:49:09 PM
Everyone is talking about MACs website being horrible.

What about the IBC website?  It still has the standings at 0-0 for everyone and absolutely no updates.  They still have the players to watch and the coaches picks (which have been up for like a month) on the front page. 

Gotta wonder who runs that because they aren't doing a good job.

D3football.com does a better job and they have 240 schools to deal with.

Ah well, just ranting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 06, 2007, 01:18:10 PM
Mark Walsh, the AD at Aurora, is the commioner of the IBFC but I don't know if he manages the web site. The new NAC conference is much better their is no football because that does not start until next year. www.northernathleticsconf.com

It would be nice if someone could focus on keeping it updated. Many other conferences have great web sites. I would suggest you e-mail your schools SID to see if they can find the person in charge of updating the site. Have them encourage them to keep it updated.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 06, 2007, 01:35:14 PM
Yeah, the NAC website is fantastic, I wish the IBC one would be kept up like that.  But I guess next year we won't have to worry about it. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 06, 2007, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 06, 2007, 12:49:09 PM
Everyone is talking about MACs website being horrible.

What about the IBC website?  It still has the standings at 0-0 for everyone and absolutely no updates.  They still have the players to watch and the coaches picks (which have been up for like a month) on the front page. 

Gotta wonder who runs that because they aren't doing a good job.

D3football.com does a better job and they have 240 schools to deal with.

Ah well, just ranting.

Actually it is updated. Teams are 0-0 in conference, but the scores and "standings" are up there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 06, 2007, 03:18:35 PM
baseman201:
   Ref: Mac`s horrible web-site. I sent an "E" to the SID 2 days (8/30) before they played Auggie telling him he was still showing last years game schedule. all be it a Partial one.
   Thought as this was 2007 he might want to up=date.
    I noticed today it was changed.  If I`m not mistaken(it`s not dated) they `ve even  included the 2007 roster. They show 94 players.
   Strange thing though, they still have the picture of Larry Pirollo who has
    graduated.  Just like Mac. One step forward, 2 steps back-ward.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 03:29:19 PM
Gomer.....I just looked at the Mac roster for this year after you pointed out that it is now posted.  Yes, the numbers go to #94 however I also noticed that not every number is used, with several numbers skipped so when you actually count the names, I came up with 53
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 06, 2007, 03:31:22 PM
55-0...
55-0...
55-0...
55-0...
55-0...

this is what is hopefully running through the Cougars heads...get pissed and get ready. Gomer, I like when you try getting us "believers" (I would prefer followers and/fans of the team) all rattled. I get some laughs out of your comments :D and I get some anger out of your comments >:( but overall, its cool to read what you write because it actually makes some sense more than others on this board. I would like to know why you think UofC is going to beat CUC, unless you were just doing that to get us fired up.

The way I see it is UofC has a very small d-line and the Cougars have increased their running game significantly from last year by having a more powerful and quicker offensive line and having 3 outstanding runningbacks that bring speed, mobility, and power to the backfield. When the Cougars O-line comes to play on Saturday the backs will as well and it will be another good rushing game. Copeland (#8) will have another amazing game and I will agree with Baseman that this FRESHMEN will have a 1,000 yard season. He is quick and could move...from what I saw 70% of the time he makes the first guy miss, which is a huge plus because last year the runningback for CUC couldn't do that.

I am excited for the home opener this weekend and I know baseman and cougswillwin are excited as well...55-0 will mean nothing after Saturday.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 06, 2007, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 03:29:19 PM
Gomer.....I just looked at the Mac roster for this year after you pointed out that it is now posted.  Yes, the numbers go to #94 however I also noticed that not every number is used, with several numbers skipped so when you actually count the names, I came up with 53

but he said Larry Parillos pic is still in the roster...does someone else have his number and they put his picture there?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 03:54:48 PM
according to the roster I saw, nobody is wearing #9 this year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 04:07:10 PM
speaking of rosters......the Greenville roster is now posted on their website, I counted 93 players on it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 06, 2007, 04:28:33 PM
Damn, 93 players.

Is that the biggest roster in the IBC?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on September 06, 2007, 05:18:20 PM
If you people knew anything about mac you would know that the is not really the SID. Plus there is more things important at mac than sports. Like most colleges we are trying to improve the campus and academics.

I still believe that you go to college to get a degree and not just play sports. Who cares if our website is not state of the art and up to date on everything. Also we all know mac is not that good this year, but they actually are playing and not quitting or mouthing off. I know that Mac has one thing to do this year, and that is to be Blackburn because we have like a 12 or 13 game win streak against them, give or take a year, that is a good thing for us.

Also why are you all shocked that mac with a lot of freshman lost and lost bad? I would love to know if another team with that many freshman starting or rotating in won the conference title?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 06, 2007, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 06, 2007, 04:28:33 PM
Damn, 93 players.

Is that the biggest roster in the IBC?

Benedictine has 115 (at least going into camp they had 115)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 07:06:16 AM
Quote from: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 03:29:19 PM
Gomer.....I just looked at the Mac roster for this year after you pointed out that it is now posted.  Yes, the numbers go to #94 however I also noticed that not every number is used, with several numbers skipped so when you actually count the names, I came up with 53

   Good eye!   I didn`t notice that. Good way to "pad" the numbers though.
    Just MacMurray being MacMurray.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 07:22:10 AM
Quote from: Fartcus Smellwood on September 06, 2007, 03:38:12 PM
Quote from: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 03:29:19 PM
Gomer.....I just looked at the Mac roster for this year after you pointed out that it is now posted.  Yes, the numbers go to #94 however I also noticed that not every number is used, with several numbers skipped so when you actually count the names, I came up with 53

but he said Larry Parillos pic is still in the roster...does someone else have his number and they put his picture there?
Sorry for the mis-understanding.  The picture of Larry Pirollo is not "in" the roster but rather posted on their, " The Offical web-site of MacMurray
  College Football."  Scroll down on opening page. 

  Fartcus: It`s   PIROLLO not PARILLO.   Gomer-1   Believer, minus 1   :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 07:55:04 AM
Quote from: drucker on September 06, 2007, 05:18:20 PM
If you people knew anything about mac you would know that the is not really the SID. Plus there is more things important at mac than sports. Like most colleges we are trying to improve the campus and academics.

I still believe that you go to college to get a degree and not just play sports. Who cares if our website is not state of the art and up to date on everything. Also we all know mac is not that good this year, but they actually are playing and not quitting or mouthing off. I know that Mac has one thing to do this year, and that is to be Blackburn because we have like a 12 or 13 game win streak against them, give or take a year, that is a good thing for us.

Also why are you all shocked that mac with a lot of freshman lost and lost bad? I would love to know if another team with that many freshman starting or rotating in won the conference title?

  Drucker: If it`s not "really" the SID then who is it.
   You are dead on why you say, getting a degree is job one.
    If you were a player I`m sure you`d want a site to be proud of.It looks
   like you left out the word "that is to be (beat) Blackburn." If your hanging your hat on beating Blackburn for the um-teenth time,  who has a record of 14-66 over the last 8 years then good luck on getting the "W."
   Why are some shocked Mac lost and lost bad?  That loss( by 65 points) was the worst  defeat in MacMurray football history, that`s why!   
   Your last sentence, I`d don`t think You or Mac has to worry about winning a conference title any time soon. With or with-out freshmen.
    Just filling in some open ended comments.   :)
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 07:06:16 AM
Quote from: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 03:29:19 PM
Gomer.....I just looked at the Mac roster for this year after you pointed out that it is now posted.  Yes, the numbers go to #94 however I also noticed that not every number is used, with several numbers skipped so when you actually count the names, I came up with 53

   Good eye!   I didn`t notice that. Good way to "pad" the numbers though.
    Just MacMurray being MacMurray.

Duh. That's not padding the numbers, that's the way football is. You can't just run out and number people 1-53.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 08:24:24 AM
Fartcus:
   Sorry. "Believers" is what I choose to call all who really believe in the 
    CU-C football program.  Fans, are people who sit in the stands. Followers, are Benny Hinn groupies. 
  As far as this saturdays selection goes, look at the record from 1999 thru 2006.
   Chicago is 33-36 over-all during that span, while CU-C is 7-72.   Who has been more consistent?  Atleast Chicago has played .500 ball, well almost.
   Percentages carry the day.  The Fat Lady sings the Chicago fight song.
   But you can still.....believe.
   
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 08:26:52 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 07:06:16 AM
Quote from: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 03:29:19 PM
Gomer.....I just looked at the Mac roster for this year after you pointed out that it is now posted.  Yes, the numbers go to #94 however I also noticed that not every number is used, with several numbers skipped so when you actually count the names, I came up with 53

   Good eye!   I didn`t notice that. Good way to "pad" the numbers though.
    Just MacMurray being MacMurray.

Duh. That's not padding the numbers, that's the way football is. You can't just run out and number people 1-53.

   "DUH"  I was making a funny. Sorry you missed it.  My Bad!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 09:10:38 AM
There's a row of yellow icons to choose from that may help you get that point across.  :-\
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 09:10:38 AM
There's a row of yellow icons to choose from that may help you get that point across.  :-\

       ;D   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 11:21:43 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 07:06:16 AM
Quote from: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 03:29:19 PM
Gomer.....I just looked at the Mac roster for this year after you pointed out that it is now posted.  Yes, the numbers go to #94 however I also noticed that not every number is used, with several numbers skipped so when you actually count the names, I came up with 53

   Good eye!   I didn`t notice that. Good way to "pad" the numbers though.
    Just MacMurray being MacMurray.

Duh. That's not padding the numbers, that's the way football is. You can't just run out and number people 1-53.

   Pat : Not to be-labor the point but your comment got me to wondering.   ??? 
   I  found this information on Fact Monster, College Code For Football  Numbers.
      Numbers:
        1-49:   QB`s,  RB`s,  DB`s,  some WR`s and LBers.
       50-59:   O and D linemen and LBers.
       60-69:   O   and D linemen.
       70-79:   O  and  D linemen
       80-89:   WR`s and TEs
       90-99:   Defensive Ends and Tackles, linemen.
    Now, I`ve got a team of 99 players. No limit on roster size (positions)
   mind you.
    Using all the numbers(1-99) on all the players it looks like I can run the table ,sequentially.  Number 100 is the mascot. 
    You are correct in thinking I`ve got a lot of "O and"D" people, never
    have to many of those. 
   " You just can`t run out and number people 1-53."  Oh, yes I can.
     Caveat:  The above was/is intended  to a provoke a smile. No negative
      retort will be accepted.   
     Always enjoy the inter-action. ;D ;D   
     
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 07, 2007, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: drucker on September 06, 2007, 05:18:20 PM
If you people knew anything about mac you would know that the is not really the SID. Plus there is more things important at mac than sports. Like most colleges we are trying to improve the campus and academics.

I still believe that you go to college to get a degree and not just play sports. Who cares if our website is not state of the art and up to date on everything. Also we all know mac is not that good this year, but they actually are playing and not quitting or mouthing off. I know that Mac has one thing to do this year, and that is to be Blackburn because we have like a 12 or 13 game win streak against them, give or take a year, that is a good thing for us.

Also why are you all shocked that mac with a lot of freshman lost and lost bad? I would love to know if another team with that many freshman starting or rotating in won the conference title?

1.)  Considering the majority of the student body has consistently comprised of the athletes, the athletic department better be important to administration!

2.)  As for the campus, if you call painting and other routine maintenance projects "improvments," then that place is in a lot worse shape than I thought.

3.)  Please don't tell me you're still a player on the team?  If the team's stretch goal is to beat Blackburn, then hang it up and sell all the equipment.  The players and coaches should be out there competing to win EVERY game, whether they are a bunch of freshmen and sophomores or not.  

What you just said is absolutely ridiculous...  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 11:21:43 AM
" You just can`t run out and number people 1-53."  Oh, yes I can.
     Caveat:  The above was/is intended  to a provoke a smile. No negative
      retort will be accepted.   
     Always enjoy the inter-action. ;D ;D   

That may explain the lack of a running game, since your team would have just four offensive linemen. After you number your linemen 50, 51, 52 and 53, then what? :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: RedmenBigD on September 07, 2007, 02:25:13 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 11:21:43 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 07:06:16 AM
Quote from: gc_fan on September 06, 2007, 03:29:19 PM
Gomer.....I just looked at the Mac roster for this year after you pointed out that it is now posted.  Yes, the numbers go to #94 however I also noticed that not every number is used, with several numbers skipped so when you actually count the names, I came up with 53

   Good eye!   I didn`t notice that. Good way to "pad" the numbers though.
    Just MacMurray being MacMurray.

Duh. That's not padding the numbers, that's the way football is. You can't just run out and number people 1-53.

   Pat : Not to be-labor the point but your comment got me to wondering.   ??? 
   I  found this information on Fact Monster, College Code For Football  Numbers.
      Numbers:
        1-49:   QB`s,  RB`s,  DB`s,  some WR`s and LBers.
       50-59:   O and D linemen and LBers.
       60-69:   O   and D linemen.
       70-79:   O  and  D linemen
       80-89:   WR`s and TEs
       90-99:   Defensive Ends and Tackles, linemen.
    Now, I`ve got a team of 99 players. No limit on roster size (positions)
   mind you.
    Using all the numbers(1-99) on all the players it looks like I can run the table ,sequentially.  Number 100 is the mascot. 
    You are correct in thinking I`ve got a lot of "O and"D" people, never
    have to many of those. 
   " You just can`t run out and number people 1-53."  Oh, yes I can.
     Caveat:  The above was/is intended  to a provoke a smile. No negative
      retort will be accepted.   
     Always enjoy the inter-action. ;D ;D   
     
     
     

In college you can have duplicate number they just can't be on the field at the same time, also I am not sure on the specifics, but in college the only numbers that you really have to worry about are for the o-lineman everyone else there is a little lee-way
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on September 07, 2007, 02:46:52 PM
That is not the only game that they want to win. They are out there competing every game to win. But beating blackburn is something they should want to do.

And the SID is part time and does stuff like pictures for local places as well.

And even though the campus is made up of mostly athletes, the new administration is trying to make the campus look nicer to incoming students. The athletic fields are looking better because the coaches now are actually taking a great deal of care to make the fields look better.

MacMurray college is in a rebuilding process right now in more ways than one. All the sports programs have new coaches with the exception of a few. The campus needs repairs and they are making them.



And one more thing none of you have told me about a team that lost so many key players and a coaching staff, that has come back the next year and had a good year????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 11:21:43 AM
" You just can`t run out and number people 1-53."  Oh, yes I can.
     Caveat:  The above was/is intended  to a provoke a smile. No negative
      retort will be accepted.   
     Always enjoy the inter-action. ;D ;D   

That may explain the lack of a running game, since your team would have just four offensive linemen. After you number your linemen 50, 51, 52 and 53, then what? :)

   Good thing you didn`t say that about CU-C.  Cause those "Believers"
    would have been all over you like a Bum at a free lunch.  ;D

    Mac has an excuse, which they quickly point out.......... all or mostly freshmen. 
    As far as after #53,  I think it`s #54. :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 03:05:28 PM
RedmenBigD:
      My give and take with Pat was all tonque in cheek.  Just having a little
      fun.  My Quoted number facts are correct though.
      Haven`t seem your handle on the IBFC site before..........welcome.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 03:14:59 PM
Mac_5_seven:
    When Mac had around 90+ football players on their roster, which was pretty much the standard in past years but not this year of course. That
    constituted about 17% of the over all student body.  Just thought I`d throw that in.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 11:21:43 AM
" You just can`t run out and number people 1-53."  Oh, yes I can.
     Caveat:  The above was/is intended  to a provoke a smile. No negative
      retort will be accepted.   
     Always enjoy the inter-action. ;D ;D   
$$

That may explain the lack of a running game, since your team would have just four offensive linemen. After you number your linemen 50, 51, 52 and 53, then what? :)
Mac has an excuse, which they quickly point out.......... all or mostly freshmen. 
    As far as after #53,  I think it`s #54. :D

Yes. So you can't just run out and number people 1-53, because you don't have enough linemen.

Thanks for proving my point. I know you were trying to play the smart-ass but the point is you can't number 53 players 1-53 and field a properly numbered team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 07, 2007, 11:21:43 AM
" You just can`t run out and number people 1-53."  Oh, yes I can.
     Caveat:  The above was/is intended  to a provoke a smile. No negative
      retort will be accepted.   
     Always enjoy the inter-action. ;D ;D   
$$

That may explain the lack of a running game, since your team would have just four offensive linemen. After you number your linemen 50, 51, 52 and 53, then what? :)
Mac has an excuse, which they quickly point out.......... all or mostly freshmen. 
    As far as after #53,  I think it`s #54. :D

Yes. So you can't just run out and number people 1-53, because you don't have enough linemen.

Thanks for proving my point. I know you were trying to play the smart-ass but the point is you can't number 53 players 1-53 and field a properly numbered team.
Your last par. You are 100% correct.  Didn`t  want you to go home mad.
    Now, That`s being a smart ass. ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on September 07, 2007, 04:15:28 PM
Lets get back to tomorrows games.
Who is going where?

Tru and GC_fan -----are you going to Blackburn to watch the Panthers?

I hope to get there myself. Maybe go watch someone else, not sure yet.

Everyone traveling this weekend have a safe trip and lets hear some football reports next week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 07, 2007, 04:26:25 PM
Timewilltell - I would love to go see GC play Blackburn or see GC play in any game.  However, I am now living in Washington State so obviously won't make it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formersliaccommish on September 07, 2007, 04:59:29 PM
If the Illini-Badger website is slow to post scores, you may want to check out the SLIAC website, www.sliac.org. It has posted the 2007 schedules and will post the 2007 scores of all eight schools that will be playing Football in the conference next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2007, 06:26:02 PM
Thanks.

Or check D3football.com, of course. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 07, 2007, 06:29:03 PM
Timewilltell;

I will be at the AU vs Coe at 1:00 and see Lakeland vs Carthage at 7:00pm. I give a quick summary of both. Good Luck to everyone's teams, No Injuries and safe travels.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on September 07, 2007, 10:39:42 PM
gc fan - Washington State... When did you move? I will be at the Greenville game tomorrow... cant wait! Will you listen on line? If not I will post the score when we get back.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 07, 2007, 11:43:45 PM
Drucker-

I realize that MAC is trying to fix their facilities and make the campus a better place........saying that........

Has MAC filled in the 1 million potholes on the football field with actual grass yet?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on September 07, 2007, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 07, 2007, 11:43:45 PM
Drucker-

I realize that MAC is trying to fix their facilities and make the campus a better place........saying that........

Has MAC filled in the 1 million potholes on the football field with actual grass yet?

Actually the field looks great this year.  They did a lot of new things over the off season to the field to make it look great. Their is plenty of grass, brand new paint job, etc.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 08, 2007, 10:44:04 AM
Good luck to CUC this weekend against UChicago Time for a little revenge I think after a poor showing last year.
 
CUC-24      Chicacago-21

I think lakeland pulls out the W even though they have a weak secondary (from what I saw) Carthage is pretty young and struggling a little bit (from what I heard)  I think LC finally gets over the hump against them.

LC-21         Carthage-17
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 08, 2007, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: Timewilltell on September 07, 2007, 04:15:28 PM
Lets get back to tomorrows games.
Who is going where?

Tru and GC_fan -----are you going to Blackburn to watch the Panthers?

I hope to get there myself. Maybe go watch someone else, not sure yet.

Everyone traveling this weekend have a safe trip and lets hear some football reports next week.


I'll be listening on the radio. My fiance has her bridal shower today so after it's over I gotta help load presents in my truck and take them to her house. So no GC game for me today.  I'll try to post some scores if I can.  Good luck IBFC teams today
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 08, 2007, 03:19:38 PM
Halftime :  Greenville-21    Blackburn-3
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 08, 2007, 07:20:55 PM
Off the D-3 Scoreboard:
 
    Coe 37        Aurora 7
  Chicago 41     CU-C  10   Fartcus, I hope you read my "reason."
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on September 08, 2007, 07:41:55 PM
Another score just in

Rockford -41 MacMurray - 8
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 08, 2007, 09:00:47 PM
Final score   Greenville 34        BC- 10
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on September 08, 2007, 09:25:05 PM
I gotta back up rucker here. 

First, he is right, in the past, players have just complained and quit really early.  Many freshman didn't stay past the first semester because they assumed they were gonna be playing and then they realized they weren't all that.  So it's good to have a coach who has put an emphasis on academics with extra study tables and whatnot and is trying to turn these athletes into well-rounded young men.

Second, I have always heard complaints about the football field, but there we other parts of campus that were a lot worse (have you ever driven in that parking lot?!?!) that they have wanted to improve upon.  Yes, some of it is routine, but obviously some money was mishandled at the top so that's why Mac is in the state it's in.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 08, 2007, 10:47:34 PM
Chicago 41 CUC 10.

CUC looks like it still has a long way to go.

Anyone at the NPU vs BU game: any stats analysis or scores would be awesome.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 08, 2007, 11:51:16 PM
BU 14, North Park 0

Schwartz 204 yards rushing for BU.  3 picks thrown by NP
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2007, 12:58:16 AM
Quote from: formersliaccommish on September 07, 2007, 04:59:29 PM
If the Illini-Badger website is slow to post scores, you may want to check out the SLIAC website, www.sliac.org. It has posted the 2007 schedules and will post the 2007 scores of all eight schools that will be playing Football in the conference next year.

No scores tonight. :(

Just would've liked to have some confirmation of the Rockford/MacMurray score since neither school nor the IBFC site has posted it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on September 09, 2007, 03:12:23 AM
MacMurray lost 41-8

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 09, 2007, 07:20:29 AM
 Scores form D3 :
   
   Con,W- 7   North central- 28

   LC- 16       Carthage- 35
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 09, 2007, 07:26:51 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 06, 2007, 08:22:42 AM
Week 2 of the season is upon us and the prognosticators thus far have done a nice job. Sensible picks with sound comment, at least in the posters view. The "believers " are excited and rightly so.  Some teams with high expectations have fallen- Con,Wis for one. Others have been trampled.
  This year, unlike years past, may see a totally different pecking order.
   Is it parity or will the cream rise to the top as suggested in the Coaches Poll (IBFC) 2007 with CU_W taking the title? 
    I`m thinking:
     (1)  Eureka: They have a bye this week but are looking forward to Sept 29th when they get Con,ILL at their house.
     (2) Lakeland at Carthage:  Lakeland was over their head last week but
      at least they scheduled a top notch team. It may help build team
      character but it goes as a "L" in the ledger. Home team, home crowd.
       Carthage should come out on top.
     (3) Chicago at Con, Ill : All the "believers" say it`s so ( a victory that is)
      Why not?  Don`t want to rile up anybody.
       Nope can`t do it.....................Chicago takes it.
      (4)  Rockford at MacMurray: What can you say? After the worst loss in school history (points) which some have attributed that to a freshmen
     ladden team this week won`t be any different.
       Rockford isn`t in the "AUGGIE" class but they will surely beat up on the
       MacMurray Freshmen  squad.
      (5) Coe at Aurora : The Kohawks (Coe) of the IIAC usually field a sound team finishing 3rd in their conferenc last year.  Add to that they blew up Aurora last year to the tune of 45-0.  Steady as she goes......COE.
      (6)Bendictine at North Park: First game of the season for NP. You know their ready.  Bu has already been in battle and got creamed by Elmhurst.
       Walking wounded ( BU) take the Vikings.
       (7)  Blackburn at Greenville: Greenville will make a statement with a
         big win over Blackburn. This could be their year (GC) so they need to show all who`s the boss!
       (8)   NorthCentral at Con,Wis.: The Falcons get the Cardinalsat home for what turns out as the rubber game.  They played twice year with each team winning one. CU-W took the first game in double OT but lost when it counted to NC in the NCAA play-off game.  So, it`s a home game for the Falcons, should have a big crowd, lots of noise plus they get to see a good game................................North Central smiling after the fat lady sings.
     
       
     

         
 
 
[/quote
    Call it lucky. Call it what-ever but I`ll take it.  Called them all correctly.
     Fartcus............you want to say something?  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 09, 2007, 07:58:31 AM
 The current IBFC standings:  This is the OVER-ALL record. Posted on D3.
   Greenville is #1 because they  have one win, as do others but  (GC) has no losses. Everybody from #2 down has at least one loss. 
   
    (1)  Greenville:   1-0
    (2)   Benedictine: 1-1
    (3)  Con U- C: 1-1 
    (4)  Eureka: 0-1
     (5) Aurora: 0-2
     (6) Con,Wis.: 0-2
     (7)  Lakeland: 0-2
     (V-III) MacMurray: 0-2
   I know it`s early and no conference games have been played yet but seeing  the standings thus far  makes one wonder.
     This could be the best year in the history of the IBC  in so far as a completely differently line-up .........top to bottom or will conference play
    reveal the same old top 3? 
   What say you? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2007, 10:59:39 AM
Quote from: NCAA Football on September 09, 2007, 03:12:23 AM
MacMurray lost 41-8



I understand -- that's what the other poster said too -- but anonymous sources are not what we would consider reliable.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 09, 2007, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 09, 2007, 07:58:31 AM
The current IBFC standings:  This is the OVER-ALL record. Posted on D3.
   Greenville is #1 because they  have one win, as do others but  (GC) has no losses. Everybody from #2 down has at least one loss. 
   
    (1)  Greenville:   1-0
    (2)   Benedictine: 1-1
    (3)  Con U- C: 1-1 
    (4)  Eureka: 0-1
     (5) Aurora: 0-2
     (6) Con,Wis.: 0-2
     (7)  Lakeland: 0-2
     (V-III) MacMurray: 0-2
   I know it`s early and no conference games have been played yet but seeing  the standings thus far  makes one wonder.
     This could be the best year in the history of the IBC  in so far as a completely differently line-up .........top to bottom or will conference play
    reveal the same old top 3? 
   What say you? 

Well let me see, Greenville's win was vs blackburn. Blackburn lost the previous week to CuC by basically the same score then CuC goes and gets smashed by whatever team. So far IBC has proven it can beat Blackburn in which case Lakeland, CuW and Aurora all would beat by 50-0 if not more imo.  Leaving the only other conference win to Bendactine who beat a team that has not had a winning season within the last 10 years or more. Lakeland has faced Carthage and UW-Whitewater much tougher schedule than anyone else to date. Lakeland may be the best team in this conference by far and we will not get to see that till week 4. CuW will also compete, I dont know WTF AURORA IS doing.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 09, 2007, 11:06:09 AM
Wow, with regards to the CUC Vs. Chicago game.  I am not going to play the "Woulda, coulda, shoulda (copyright Gomer, 2007  ;D) game.  

Chicago just flat out manhandled CUC the whole game.  Copeland had absolutely no where to run, Weeks couldn't throw the ball and the WRs had a case of the dropsies on MANY occasions.

But U. of Chicago was a fast physical team who just dominated for 2 1/2 quarters.  CUC was in it the first quarter 1/2, but after that forget about it.  I am not going to pull a Maddog and say, "well, if the sun just would have been a little higher in the sky, they would have seen better and won the game."  Ok, a little overkill, but you get the idea,  :D

Anyhow, next week doesn't get any easier with Rose Hulman coming to town.  

Also the Greenville game was a little closer then what I expected.  The score was about the same as last week when CUC beat Blackburn 33-14.

Anyhow, not a good week for the IBC, hopefully we win some games next week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on September 09, 2007, 11:09:57 AM
Wish all well for the 2007 IBFC season...Go GC Panthers

Dom- you is a beast....enough said

Justin Grant- you know what it takes, get it done

Garrett and Grant- Best LB duo in IBFC...BALL OUT  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: JRHarriel25 on September 09, 2007, 11:22:38 AM
Mark Scopp- To the house
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 09, 2007, 12:37:49 PM
The jury is still out on Coach Cooper and the Benedictine Eagles.

After getting thrashed last week by Elmhurst, BU only beats North Park by 14. Considering North Park is the bottom of the CCIW, I wouldn't consider that as a "good" game.

I'm still trying to figure out if Cooper even had a game plan against Elmhurst. He comes in, brings in all of his guys on the coaching staff, brings in 110 guys this year, and still can't be beating teams up? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last 3 head coaches at Bendictine never lost to Elmhurst by 49 points, and they had HALF the guys on their roster. Also,

This is judgement year for Cooper and his staff. Anyone can bring in 100 guys when you have a nationally-known football facility. That brings recruits in on its own.

If Cooper doesn't win 6 games this year, Benedictine should look for a new coach.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 09, 2007, 03:12:02 PM
basemnan201:
   Thanks for the "credit."   
   Nice to see Maddog remembered.  It`s a shame he`s not on board as his stuff is good.  He`s  a HOMER of the first order and his commentary is
   as about as biased as it gets but..........but he knows his stuff, no doubt about it. Plus he has a good sense of humor.
    If he ever gets out of the broom closet at that old Tucker auto plant somewhere in Cleveland  you`ll see what I mean. 
    I wonder if he`s still wearing that old Lakeland tee-shirt with
     Lakeland Rules on it.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 09, 2007, 05:06:22 PM
Are You Kidding;

Pretty tough statement that Jon Cooper should be replaced if he can't win 6 games. He did not exactly come in to a program like Mt. Union. It will take time, maybe as much as 5 years. He has had to overcome a lot at this school. Attitude be one. He has a very good Frosh QB who will be one of the top QB's by his Junior year. His program will jell. Jon program is certainly not embarassing the University. As a fan, relax and watch the progress each week. There are many 0-2 teams that will take a wind over NPU. 1-1 is a good start. BTW, they will not beat NCC. Their athletes are not as good as NCC athletes.

I have no affliation with Benedictine, just my opinion.
Title: Concordia wi QB
Post by: cudub on September 10, 2007, 12:08:17 AM
whats up gentleman?  I have been reading this board for a couple years, now that im not playing i figure its cool to join in.  I was just wondering if anybody has news on the CUW quarterback situation? I know Chart played much of the second half, hes a solid option, but I dont know if pachiolli got injured, or if he was pulled (the o-coordinator isnt exactley stable in his quarterback choices)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 10, 2007, 07:27:45 AM
old40:
    Just a follow up on your comments on North Central.....Benedictine. 
     I sure hope BU doesn`t get big headed over it`s win against North Park.
     A team that has a conference record of 2-54 from 1999-2006. Give them (NP) credit though as they have won some non-conference games. As you
    implied though, a weak team at best.
    As far as North Central and Benedictine.  North Central will beat BU like a
      rented mule.  More on Thursday.
    As far as Coach Cooper is concerned, he was a long timer at Aurora and while there, they (AU) did rather well. I`m with you on..... lets give him
   some time.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on September 10, 2007, 10:22:52 AM
I seen the note comparing the CUC win over Blackburn and the GC win over Blackburn.  Not sure you can really compare the games.

CUC and Blackburn - the score was 14-13 Blackburn with 9 mins. to go in the 3rd Q and 19-14 CUC going into the 4th.

GC and Blackburn- the score was 21-0 starting the 2nd Q,  And it was 34-3 with less than 2 minutes left in the game, and Blackburn scored, and sure it wasn't on the starters.

So, although I wasn't there, not sure we can really draw any comparisons. We'll see what GC can do the next three weeks- NAIA school this week in Taylor and then Lakeland and Aurora.

Have a good week!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 10, 2007, 12:40:24 PM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 09, 2007, 12:37:49 PM
The jury is still out on Coach Cooper and the Benedictine Eagles.

After getting thrashed last week by Elmhurst, BU only beats North Park by 14. Considering North Park is the bottom of the CCIW, I wouldn't consider that as a "good" game.

I'm still trying to figure out if Cooper even had a game plan against Elmhurst. He comes in, brings in all of his guys on the coaching staff, brings in 110 guys this year, and still can't be beating teams up? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last 3 head coaches at Bendictine never lost to Elmhurst by 49 points, and they had HALF the guys on their roster. Also,

This is judgement year for Cooper and his staff. Anyone can bring in 100 guys when you have a nationally-known football facility. That brings recruits in on its own.

If Cooper doesn't win 6 games this year, Benedictine should look for a new coach.

Are you kidding me?

No seriously.  This kind of post is rediculous and I'm not a BU alum.

Elmhurst has dominated its series with Benedictine before coach cooper by an average score of 48-8.

North Park may be the bottom of the CCIW, but they have a recent coach too (who was also trying to turn around a program).  Many of us in CCIW believed the Vikings had a good chance to win this game.  They are rebuilding a team and an attitude just like the Eagles.  Congrats to Benedictine on a good win, not an iffy win, a GOOD win.  This was a must win game for both teams and Cooper pulled it out.

After allowing 52 points to pitch a shut-out is a great accomplishment.

Next, when was the last time BU saw 110 players in camp? 2000-2001? Maybe.  But don't be fooled by numbers, Benedictine has numbers, but they still lack the size, speed and strength that will put them over the top.  Against Elmhurst thier O-line was dismal at best and the D-line not much better.  The D-line had one guy over 250 that played.  You play with who you have and Benedictine is going to need another year to develope those young kids.  Freshman rarely make an impact when they are not surrounded with leadership from the upper classes that have put in time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 10, 2007, 01:31:56 PM
Troubling news out of Macland.  The J-ville Journal Courier reported that a student and footballer got stabbed in the shoulder  at a party on Saturday night..
Title: Re: Concordia wi QB
Post by: Falcon77 on September 10, 2007, 01:42:16 PM
Quote from: cudub on September 10, 2007, 12:08:17 AM
whats up gentleman?  I have been reading this board for a couple years, now that im not playing i figure its cool to join in.  I was just wondering if anybody has news on the CUW quarterback situation? I know Chart played much of the second half, hes a solid option, but I dont know if pachiolli got injured, or if he was pulled (the o-coordinator isnt exactley stable in his quarterback choices)
I'm not sure the o-coordinator is sure about anyone This offense is not running well. He does not have the athletes from last year. He needs to simplify things and get good at that. I don't think Pachiolli was hurt. I think he was looking for a spark.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 10, 2007, 03:19:23 PM
NCC_ALUM62:
   This is not met to provoke or inflame but rather clarify.
    You said in part," Elmhurst has dominated it`s series with BU before
    Coach Cooper by an average of 48-8."  I`m sure the game figures you used worked out to the average, That`s not my question.
    The word "before" is the is the fly in the ointment.
     Coach Cooper`s first year was 2005, as stated in his bio. So, that being said he was not responsible for anything pre 2005. Using game totals from 2000-2004 (got to start somewhere) The rounded off average I got was 36-18.  Using scores from 2005 thru 2007 ( cooper years) I get an average of 46-3.  Close to yours. I just came from a different place. 
    Your point is understood and BU was indeed dominated before and now but the word "before"  just caught my eye.   The white flag is waving. :D
     
   
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on September 10, 2007, 03:34:43 PM
About the stabbing. It was not a Mac player, but a former player who was trying to stop a towny from acting up, walked over to him and said hey whats the problem and the coward stabbed him in the shoulder. So no it was not a football player. It is sad though that this kid was just trying to help and got hurt.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 10, 2007, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: drucker on September 10, 2007, 03:34:43 PM
About the stabbing. It was not a Mac player, but a former player who was trying to stop a towny from acting up, walked over to him and said hey whats the problem and the coward stabbed him in the shoulder. So no it was not a football player. It is sad though that this kid was just trying to help and got hurt.

drucker, thanks for the clarification.  The townies in J-ville are an absolute nightmare, especially around the area Mac is in..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 10, 2007, 04:49:33 PM

I'm not sure the o-coordinator is sure about anyone This offense is not running well. He does not have the athletes from last year. He needs to simplify things and get good at that. I don't think Pachiolli was hurt. I think he was looking for a spark.
[/quote]


I agree that he needs to simplify, he is obsessed with coming up with new innovative plays and refuses to go back to the basics.  I think that chart has been underated, im curious to see what happens this weekend.  I think Wisconsin lutheran will be a good tune up game for CUW to start conference play.  hopefully they can get the kinds worked out, because if they cant score touchdowns they cant win this conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on September 11, 2007, 12:49:20 AM
What's funny about the stabbing thing, which is not funny, but as usual, the Jacksonville newspaper reported it wrong.  It definitely says it's a current football player and student.  Sad how that towns information works...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Falcon77 on September 11, 2007, 09:23:14 AM
Quote from: cudub on September 10, 2007, 04:49:33 PM

I'm not sure the o-coordinator is sure about anyone This offense is not running well. He does not have the athletes from last year. He needs to simplify things and get good at that. I don't think Pachiolli was hurt. I think he was looking for a spark.


I agree that he needs to simplify, he is obsessed with coming up with new innovative plays and refuses to go back to the basics.  I think that chart has been underated, im curious to see what happens this weekend.  I think Wisconsin lutheran will be a good tune up game for CUW to start conference play.  hopefully they can get the kinds worked out, because if they cant score touchdowns they cant win this conference.
[/quote]

I agree with the Wisc Luth tune up. I don't know if he will simplify things. I think their offense can be good (not as good as last year.) But it all starts with the o-line. They need some consistancy from them. Defensively, they are solid. Allen is as good of a nose tackle as I've seen in years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FormerCard on September 11, 2007, 10:30:47 PM
It has been a few years since Scott left AU,  what is he doing now?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 01:25:38 AM
Quote from: old 40 on September 09, 2007, 05:06:22 PM
Are You Kidding;

Pretty tough statement that Jon Cooper should be replaced if he can't win 6 games. He did not exactly come in to a program like Mt. Union. It will take time, maybe as much as 5 years. He has had to overcome a lot at this school. Attitude be one. He has a very good Frosh QB who will be one of the top QB's by his Junior year. His program will jell. Jon program is certainly not embarassing the University. As a fan, relax and watch the progress each week. There are many 0-2 teams that will take a wind over NPU. 1-1 is a good start. BTW, they will not beat NCC. Their athletes are not as good as NCC athletes.

I have no affliation with Benedictine, just my opinion.

Not really. Considering the schedule he plays and the amount of recruits that are coming in simply for the facilities, he should be thriving. In addition, in the last 2 years, Benedictine has dropped one of the best in the CCIW (Carthage) for the worst (NP).

Why should he be given 5 years? The previous 2 Benedictine coaches were given 2 apiece and were considered "bad" coaches because of it.

I just don't think that in your 3rd year as a head coach you should be getting blown out by 49 points. It's not acceptable. And enough with the "he will be one of the top qb's." Projections are silly and are nothing but that. His team isn't embarrassing the University you say? Well a loss by 49 is pretty embarrassing in my book...especially when you're in year 3.

Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 10, 2007, 07:27:45 AM
old40:
    Just a follow up on your comments on North Central.....Benedictine. 
     I sure hope BU doesn`t get big headed over it`s win against North Park.
     A team that has a conference record of 2-54 from 1999-2006. Give them (NP) credit though as they have won some non-conference games. As you
    implied though, a weak team at best.
    As far as North Central and Benedictine.  North Central will beat BU like a
      rented mule.  More on Thursday.
    As far as Coach Cooper is concerned, he was a long timer at Aurora and while there, they (AU) did rather well. I`m with you on..... lets give him
   some time.
     

Nobody at BU is getting big headed over it. They schedule North Park for a reason...because they can't beat anyone else in the CCIW and it's somewhat of a local game. And yes, Cooper was at Aurora for a long time...as an Assistant. He wasn't the head guy there. And there's a reason he wasn't given the head coaching job when the old head coach left. Think about that one.

Quote from: NCC_alum62 on September 10, 2007, 12:40:24 PM
Are you kidding me?

No seriously.  This kind of post is rediculous and I'm not a BU alum.

Elmhurst has dominated its series with Benedictine before coach cooper by an average score of 48-8.

North Park may be the bottom of the CCIW, but they have a recent coach too (who was also trying to turn around a program).  Many of us in CCIW believed the Vikings had a good chance to win this game.  They are rebuilding a team and an attitude just like the Eagles.  Congrats to Benedictine on a good win, not an iffy win, a GOOD win.  This was a must win game for both teams and Cooper pulled it out.

After allowing 52 points to pitch a shut-out is a great accomplishment.

Next, when was the last time BU saw 110 players in camp? 2000-2001? Maybe.  But don't be fooled by numbers, Benedictine has numbers, but they still lack the size, speed and strength that will put them over the top.  Against Elmhurst thier O-line was dismal at best and the D-line not much better.  The D-line had one guy over 250 that played.  You play with who you have and Benedictine is going to need another year to develope those young kids.  Freshman rarely make an impact when they are not surrounded with leadership from the upper classes that have put in time.

In 2001, BU lost by 8
In 2002, by 3
In 2003, by 31
In 2004, by 46
In 2005, by 46
In 2006, by 34 (and shutout)
In 2007, by 49

Cooper's numbers in bold.

The coach from 2001 and 2002, who lost 2 games by a total of 11 points? Gone after 2002.
The coach from 2003 and 2004? 2 games by 77 points (38.5 average)? Gone after 2004.
Cooper? A 43 point average. Still here in 2007? Why?

Cooper is on year 3, and is still getting blown out. Why? Maybe it has something to do with him gutting the BU staff completely and bringing in his guys. Maybe there's a reason he was only an Assistant at Aurora for that long.

And please, don't insult anyone's intelligence around here by commending BU for beating North Park 14-0. The more important number should be 14. How did they only score 2 TD's on them? They are LUCKY they aren't playing Carthage anymore.

Finally, what point are you trying to prove with the 100+ numbers in camp comparison? First you sound like it's a great thing, then you say not to be fooled by the numbers. Which is it? Is Cooper recruiting garbage talent? With 100+ guys, you have to have at least 8-9  impact new players. If not, somebody needs to fire the recruiting coordinator.

And what do you mean another year to develop? I've heard that nonsense since Cooper's first year. It's year 3 now. How much longer do you get to develop? These kids are graduating now. Are you talking about them developing after college? In their NFL careers?

Enough already. I've heard enough about this "revampment" of Benedictine Football under the Cooper realm. It's worse than it's ever been...and that includes the two coaches who preceded him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 12, 2007, 10:39:58 AM
You just seemed to miss my points completely AYKM

You originally brought up the fact that he brought in a big recruiting class, I responded by saying it was the first time in a long time I had seen so many players at BU, but was also saying give those freshmen another year to develop.  This may be Joe Coppers third year, but it is his first really big recruiting class, if they stick around and improve they could be better. 

You talk about 8-9 impact freshman, but you miss the point completely.  Freshman do not win college football games by themselves.  It takes upperclassmen surrounding that raw talent to win games.  It takes development to get them to play at a level they need to be at.  Freshmen can start and contribute to a high level, but they can't form the nucleus of a great college football team on any level.

I'm also not touting some big return of BU, (when were they ever really a dominant football team), I am saying that to call for the firing of a coach every two years is why they have been a bottom feeder not only in the IBC but in the region.  They will improve week in and week out and already showed that from week 1 to week 2.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 12, 2007, 10:43:17 AM
Elmhurst also has a pretty darn good football team this year with alot of returning players in the trenches (especially on D) not to mention an experienced secondary and two QB's that can run the offense.  Elmhurst is one of the best football teams that BU will play (aside from the Cardinals) all this year.  Either Elmhurst or NCC could win it all in the IBC from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on September 12, 2007, 10:58:12 AM
It's Hump Day- What are everyone's picks for this weekend?

Lakeland   at UW-Oshkosh  -  UW gets the win at home, but it will be closer
as Lakeland should start to jell, its their 3rd game. UW-27- LL-24

North Park   at Eureka   - Eureka, even after a week off to prepare, won't be able to hit the win column. NP 38-14
   
Rose-Hulman   at Concordia (Ill.)    - A chance for CUC to prove were they belong against a always stable program. At home, close game, but Rose wins 24-17.  

Wisconsin Lutheran   at Concordia (Wis.)   Offense steps up this week. CUW wins 24-17    

Taylor   at Greenville     Taylor (NAIA) got their only win last year against Greenville. So Taylor will look to repeat that win. GC will need to be tough on defense and score some to take pressure off the Def. In a close one- GC 24-Taylor 21  

Benedictine   at North Central --Bene needs to show some moxy, and step up to some challenges.  My Upset - Bene 27- NP- 24

Good Luck to all IBC teams and be Safe!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 12, 2007, 11:03:56 AM
Are you kidding:
   Just for conversation sake And  Coach Cooper`s capabilities aside,  lets talk conference wins as they are really what count. Starting
  with 2005 as thats when Cooper took over the BU football program.
  To this point in time (today), nobody has played a 2007 IBFC game.
   That being said, the two years in question are 2005 and 2006.
   All the following are wins/losses in conference play for those 2 seasons.
    Bu is 6-8.  CU-C is 1-13.  Eureka is 1-13. LC is 12-2. Mac is 4-10.
    CU-W is 13-1. Greenville is 9-5.
    CU-W has been the studs. LC was as well. Greenville is on the rise and then there is BU with 6-8. 
    Coopers tenure at Bu as the Head Football Coach is up to the School
    but it seems to me a 6-8 early conference record is not that bad.
    Non conference games (as you well know)  don`t mean squat! Losing
     big ( LC, as an example)  may hurt your pride but means nothing as well.  The only important games are conference ones.   Like I said, 6-8,
    could be a lot worse.
     Your civil retort (in context) is welcomed.  :)
     

     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 12, 2007, 11:37:30 AM
Anybody know anything about Rose-Hulman??  What are con chances against them (preferably unbiased).  Also, I think lakeland has an oppurtunity to make a real statement this weekend, if they can pull off this win, they may be the favorites this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 12, 2007, 05:18:48 PM
Having played for the last 3 coaches at Benedictine...Murray (1 year), Mitchell( 2 year), an Cooper (1 year), allow me to comment.  That last sentence it itself is a good reason why we were not very good.  Anyways, Benedictine's average margin of defeat against teams in 05 and 06 have decreased.  I dont want to do math now, but you can look at the numbers.  Lost to NCC by 55 one year, just 17 coopers first year, which NCC was better that year as well.  Lost to Lakeland i think 14-0 last year...other years have been 73-7, 62-35, etc.  BU has not lost to CUC, Eureka whcih was done each once in Mitchell's years.  Next year will be all of Cooper's recruits so you can judge him then if you want.  They just havent settled on an offense, the wing t is not working as imagined and BU doesnt have ne one to throw the ball with conssitently.  If they can establish some sort of consistency there, ths season and then next year the defense will still be very tough.  However, they did not show it versus Elmhurst.  But im not worried about the D.  They are led by a great group of guys.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 12, 2007, 07:19:49 PM
BU Fan, Gomer and
NCC Alum62;

Very good comments on the Cooper situation. Time will tell. Perhaps our friend AYKM can swing the school to schedule Principia, Eureka and MacMurray next year as non-conference games. That should bring a smile to his face.

Picks for this weeks game. One week from the conference's final season.

NCC over Benedictine, 31-9, Benedictine Offense looking to come together. NCC has more and better Athletes. Benedictine Defense will be tested.

North Park over Eureka, 11-9, CCIW bottom feeder still better than the Devils. Maybe OT.

Greenville over Taylor(NAIA), 28-10, Too much option and QB plus a stout Defense.

Rose-Hulman over CUC, 28-14, RHI plays in a good conference and is similar to Univ. of Chi. This will be another challenge for CUC.

CUW over Wisconsin Luthern, 24-0, CUW has to much Defense and will start to jell on Offense. They are warming up for the defense of their title.

UW-Oshkosh over Lakeland, 31- 28, 3rd team in D3 top45, Lakeland Offense must find rushing game despite being down to number 4 and 5 RB's. If QB and play makeing receivers come to play it will be close.

AU is open this week.

Good Luck to everyone's teams and no injuries.



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on September 12, 2007, 10:39:58 AM
You just seemed to miss my points completely AYKM

You originally brought up the fact that he brought in a big recruiting class, I responded by saying it was the first time in a long time I had seen so many players at BU, but was also saying give those freshmen another year to develop.  This may be Joe Coppers third year, but it is his first really big recruiting class, if they stick around and improve they could be better.  

You talk about 8-9 impact freshman, but you miss the point completely.  Freshman do not win college football games by themselves.  It takes upperclassmen surrounding that raw talent to win games.  It takes development to get them to play at a level they need to be at.  Freshmen can start and contribute to a high level, but they can't form the nucleus of a great college football team on any level.

I'm also not touting some big return of BU, (when were they ever really a dominant football team), I am saying that to call for the firing of a coach every two years is why they have been a bottom feeder not only in the IBC but in the region.  They will improve week in and week out and already showed that from week 1 to week 2.

I didn't miss one point you tried to make. Unfortunately, instead of reading mine, you disregarded them because they were true and you had no response to them. Moving onto your post...

Yes, I did say there was a big recruiting class (which he did not do alone, half of those recruits came for the nationally-known facility). Before you try to go against that point, know that Benedictine's enrollment is at it's highest in years. The new buildings are the reason for it, not the football coach with the losing record.

You have no point regarding freshman...simply because not every new player is a freshman. And Benedictine has plenty of upperclassmen surrounding the freshman. At least 8 of BU's current starters have started for four years on this team, and they are all seniors. How is that not development? They've started their whole careers there!

Also, when was BU football dominant? I'm pretty sure in 2000, they had a nationally ranked defense with 2 All-Americans. The following year they had two more All-Americans.

Finally, if you're going to say that they improved from week 1 to week 2, don't compare apples and oranges. NP is hardly a viable opponent to compare to Elmhurst.

Quote from: NCC_alum62 on September 12, 2007, 10:43:17 AM
Elmhurst also has a pretty darn good football team this year with alot of returning players in the trenches (especially on D) not to mention an experienced secondary and two QB's that can run the offense.  Elmhurst is one of the best football teams that BU will play (aside from the Cardinals) all this year.  Either Elmhurst or NCC could win it all in the IBC from what I've seen.

Nobody said Elmhurst didn't have a good football team. That still doesn't give BU the excuse to lose by 7 touchdowns and their defense not stop them ONE time. Also, Elmhurst or NCC would not win the IBC. They would have to beat Conc-Wisc and Lakeland, which wouldn't happen.

Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 12, 2007, 11:03:56 AM
Are you kidding:
  Just for conversation sake And  Coach Cooper`s capabilities aside,  lets talk conference wins as they are really what count. Starting
 with 2005 as thats when Cooper took over the BU football program.
 To this point in time (today), nobody has played a 2007 IBFC game.
  That being said, the two years in question are 2005 and 2006.
  All the following are wins/losses in conference play for those 2 seasons.
   Bu is 6-8.  CU-C is 1-13.  Eureka is 1-13. LC is 12-2. Mac is 4-10.
   CU-W is 13-1. Greenville is 9-5.
   CU-W has been the studs. LC was as well. Greenville is on the rise and then there is BU with 6-8.  
   Coopers tenure at Bu as the Head Football Coach is up to the School
   but it seems to me a 6-8 early conference record is not that bad.
   Non conference games (as you well know)  don`t mean squat! Losing
    big ( LC, as an example)  may hurt your pride but means nothing as well.  The only important games are conference ones.   Like I said, 6-8,
   could be a lot worse.
    Your civil retort (in context) is welcomed.  :)

Let's get this straight...you're trying to talk Cooper up because he has a 6-8 record? Beating CURF, Eureka, and 2 more scattered games is hardly something to brag about in the IBC.

And non-conference games do count. Just because you get blown out by a non-conference team doesn't mean you get a pass.






Quote from: bufan on September 12, 2007, 05:18:48 PM
Having played for the last 3 coaches at Benedictine...Murray (1 year), Mitchell( 2 year), an Cooper (1 year), allow me to comment.  That last sentence it itself is a good reason why we were not very good.  Anyways, Benedictine's average margin of defeat against teams in 05 and 06 have decreased.  I dont want to do math now, but you can look at the numbers.  Lost to NCC by 55 one year, just 17 coopers first year, which NCC was better that year as well.  Lost to Lakeland i think 14-0 last year...other years have been 73-7, 62-35, etc.  BU has not lost to CUC, Eureka whcih was done each once in Mitchell's years.  Next year will be all of Cooper's recruits so you can judge him then if you want.  They just havent settled on an offense, the wing t is not working as imagined and BU doesnt have ne one to throw the ball with conssitently.  If they can establish some sort of consistency there, ths season and then next year the defense will still be very tough.  However, they did not show it versus Elmhurst.  But im not worried about the D.  They are led by a great group of guys.

If you'd like to play the comparison game, by all means, let's dance.

Yes, BU lost by 55 in 2003. In 2004, they lost by 34. Did you look back to 2002? They beat NCC by 12.

Don't act like it was really a 17 point game either. If you were actually on the team, you know full well that NCC yanked it's starters or else that would've been a 30+ point loss. So don't pull out scores if you don't remember what happened.

Also, BU may have only lost to Lakeland by 14 last year...but Lakeland had a down year. They were average. What happened the year before when they were good? BU lost by 38.BU did lose to Eureka under Mitchell...but they also beat MacMurray one year after their title.

And what do you mean next year Cooper can be judged? What, in year 4? Murray and Mitchell were judged after 2 years and people were calling for their heads.

Also, you're not worried about the D? I'd be. Any defense that can give up 49 points and not make one stop all game would worry me a tad.

So, before you try to jump on Cooper's side and play stat nazi, realize that I have stats too. It's not hard to pull them up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 12, 2007, 07:39:46 PM
Are you Kidding,

Um, are YOU kidding (or just memory impaired)?  "...NCC would not win the IBC.  They would have to beat Conc-Wisc and Lakeland, which wouldn't happen."

September 8, 2007 (remember 4 days ago?): NCC 28, CUW 7.  Carthage (picked behind NCC in the CCIW Coaches' Poll) 35, Lakeland 16.

OOPS! ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 08:07:14 PM
AYK -- not sure who named those guys All-Americans in 2000 and 2001 but I see one D3football.com All-American in those years and none from the AFCA.

No other All-American team is worth the paper it's printed on.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 12, 2007, 09:03:03 PM
Mr. Ypsi-

QuoteUm, are YOU kidding (or just memory impaired)?  "...NCC would not win the IBC.

Uhm.....of course NCC would win the IBC, are you kidding me man?  You said they would have to beat CUW (which they easily did) and Lakeland (NCC would make Lakeland look silly). 

NCC would have no competition in the IBC, hands down winner every single year.  So I have no idea what you are talking about Ypsi.

Also realize preseason coaches rankings and polls mean absolutely nothing.  Need I remind you of a team out of Ann Arbor that was #5 in the nation in the preseason polls then got blown out 2 weeks in a row.......

thank you, predictions forthcoming.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 09:12:24 PM
Being a D3football "guru" as your subtitle states, I'm pretty sure you'd know these guys: Mike Gardiner and Chuck Verdone.

Verdone was a Hewlett-Packard First Team All American in 1999, and an honorable mention All American in 2000 (simply because nobody threw his way). Verdone has Benedictine's career interception record along with several other records.

Gardiner was named USAfootball.com Second Team All-American in 2000. He was also named to YOUR 2001 Preaseason First Team All-American team. Gardiner holds Benedictine's sack record.

The one you're most likely referring to is Pat Ryan, the 2001 D3football.com First Team All-American.

In my world, 3 people is not 1 person. I'm not sure about yours.

As for your comment regarding no other All-American team being worth the paper it's printed on...Hewlett Packard All American holds a bit more credibility than a d3footall All-American. USAfootball.com isn't too far behind either.

So actually, Benedictine has 3 All-Americans from 2000-2001. Thanks for helping my argument.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 12, 2007, 09:14:26 PM
Predictions-

Lakeland Vs. UW-Oshkosh:
UW-Oshkosh is in one of the best conferences in D-III....I guess that's all I have to say.

Lakeland - 10
Oshkosh - 35

Eureka Vs. North Park:
Seems evenly matched....Eureka will use the slanted field to their advantage and Billy Bob cheering in the trailer park for some motivation.

Eureka - 7
North Park - 3

CUC Vs. Rose Hulman:
I just hate to do this, Rose Hulman in my opinion is better then U. of Chicago......but I hope they prove me wrong.

CUC - 17
Rose Hulman - 40

CUW Vs. Wisconsin Lutheran:
Wis. Lutheran seemed improved before the blowout at the hands of Dubuque.  Have no idea what will happen, but will go with Concordia with Wis. Lutheran hanging tough.

CUW - 21
Wis. Lutheran - 14

Greenville Vs. Taylor:
Don't know ANYTHING about Taylor, I only know they are 0-2 and Greenville is pretty darn good.

Greenville - 35
Taylor - 10

Benedictine Vs. NCC:
Uhm, bad news.

Benedictine - 7
NCC - 51

Well that's it, let's here some more.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
Preseason doesn't count anywhere.

I know those guys, but come on now. Who is USAFootball.com, really? When was the last time HP released an All-American team?

Our team and the AFCA team are the only ones recognized by the NCAA in their record books. Seems like a good cutoff for me for legitimacy. One person on those lists.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
Preseason doesn't count anywhere.

I know those guys, but come on now. Who is USAFootball.com, really? When was the last time HP released an All-American team?

Our team and the AFCA team are the only ones recognized by the NCAA in their record books. Seems like a good cutoff for me for legitimacy. One person on those lists.

Why does it matter when the last time HP released an All-American team?

They obviously got it right in 1999. How does a corner with 10 picks for 101 yards with 90 tackles on well-known team not get picked? Come on. And let's not debate brand names here...HP...D3football.com...in d3football.com's first year releasing all-american selections. HP wins.

And the only reason Gardiner (who was a better lineman than somebody you listed to your All-American team, Pay Ryan) wasn't First-Team in 2001 on d3.com is because Pat Ryan played next to him...and while Gardiner was getting triple teamed, Ryan was getting his sacks.

Three All-Americans, not one. Just because they weren't a d3football.com All-American (which started releasing lists only 8 years ago) doesn't mean they weren't All-Americans. Like I said, a brand name like HP gets a little more credibility than a business (at the time) who was releasing a team for their first time.

Like I said, 3. There's your proof which you so desperately needed.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 09:33:29 PM
And your spirited defense of USAFootball.com? Any thoughts on trying to put a tutu on that pig?

HP was decent for its time. I'll take the team voted on by coaches, though, rather than the one by SIDs. Just in general, that seems like a good idea. Nothing against SIDs, but they're not watching video and scouting opponents. They're looking at stat lines. In this case, Benedictine 1999 stats were racked up against the IBFC, a SLIAC team and the worst two teams in the CCIW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 12, 2007, 10:33:17 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 12, 2007, 09:03:03 PM
Mr. Ypsi-

QuoteUm, are YOU kidding (or just memory impaired)?  "...NCC would not win the IBC.

Uhm.....of course NCC would win the IBC, are you kidding me man?  You said they would have to beat CUW (which they easily did) and Lakeland (NCC would make Lakeland look silly). 

NCC would have no competition in the IBC, hands down winner every single year.  So I have no idea what you are talking about Ypsi.

Also realize preseason coaches rankings and polls mean absolutely nothing.  Need I remind you of a team out of Ann Arbor that was #5 in the nation in the preseason polls then got blown out 2 weeks in a row.......

thank you, predictions forthcoming.

baseman,

With all due respect, you have just flunked third-grade reading comprehension! ;D 

I was quoting (then mocking) a post from Are you Kidding, since he made a statement which had ALREADY been proven false just days before.  I'm well aware that (if added to the 8 current members) CUW or Lakeland would finish somewhere between 6th and 8th in the CCIW this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 09:33:29 PM
And your spirited defense of USAFootball.com? Any thoughts on trying to put a tutu on that pig?

HP was decent for its time. I'll take the team voted on by coaches, though, rather than the one by SIDs. Just in general, that seems like a good idea. Nothing against SIDs, but they're not watching video and scouting opponents. They're looking at stat lines. In this case, Benedictine 1999 stats were racked up against the IBFC, a SLIAC team and the worst two teams in the CCIW.

My defense is the stats that Gardiner put up..which were disgusting...something around 40 sacks in only three years of football (didn't play his freshman year)(keep in mind he had 40 sacks with Pat Ryan grabbing 16 of them while feeding off of Gardiner's triple teams). I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of people who do that. Name them for us guru.

And I'll take HP over D3football.com when it was still going. The mere fact that Ryan was voted over Gardiner for All-American status in 2001 shows that the system was flawed enough. Why weren't these "coaches" watching? And if the IBC is so bad, why did D3football.com vote Ryan All-American?

Knock Benedictine's 1999 schedule all you want, but Verdone was still the best cornerback in the nation. He had tryouts from several pro teams, made an NFL Europe team but decided not to go, and played arena ball.

But I mean, what is Hewlett Packard anyways? Not a multi-million/billion dollar company or anything. D3football is though, right? I'm sure you're posting right now from your Yacht.

You need to accept the fact that although Division III football is your life, you don't know everything about it. Discrediting other publications simply because they voted differently than your site does not make them wrong. You need to accept that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 10:51:03 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 12, 2007, 07:39:46 PM
Are you Kidding,

Um, are YOU kidding (or just memory impaired)?  "...NCC would not win the IBC.  They would have to beat Conc-Wisc and Lakeland, which wouldn't happen."

September 8, 2007 (remember 4 days ago?): NCC 28, CUW 7.  Carthage (picked behind NCC in the CCIW Coaches' Poll) 35, Lakeland 16.

OOPS! ;)

Unfortunately, I don't study Division III football on a week by week basis like you do. NCC beat Conc-Wisc? Great for them! Who won last year when it counted?

Either way, I was speaking as a whole...and over the course of history (and even the recent past) that Conc-Wisc and Lakeland are better teams than North Central. It's not my fault CUW is having a down year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 10:53:34 PM
Yes. Making printers and computers and scientific calculators definitely qualifies you to name a Division III football All-American team. :)

AYK: HP was just the sponsor. I already told you who voted. Were you listening?

We felt there were probably a dozen corners in Division III who could've picked 10 balls against that schedule. That's why others made the team ahead of him. No offense to him as a player or person, but there were just others that were better. We wouldn't punish a player who played a better schedule.

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 10:51:03 PM
Unfortunately, I don't study Division III football on a week by week basis like you do. NCC beat Conc-Wisc? Great for them! Who won last year when it counted?

North Central did.

http://www.d3football.com/releases.php?release=8938&scoreboard&year=2006

North Central had no problem avenging its earlier-season defeat to Concordia University (Wis.) after crushing the Falcons 35-6 in the first round of the NCAA III Playoffs Saturday, Nov. 18.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 12, 2007, 11:13:33 PM
Pat, you beat me to it......the playoffs are what counts, don't know what "are you kidding" is pertaining to.

Ypsi-

AHHHH, I guess I did flunk....I must apologize for not catching the sarcasm.....

But I guess we agree then,  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 12, 2007, 11:20:42 PM
baseman,

We've all made silly mistakes from hasty reading.  +k for owning up! :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 11:40:45 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 10:53:34 PM
Yes. Making printers and computers and scientific calculators definitely qualifies you to name a Division III football All-American team. :)

AYK: HP was just the sponsor. I already told you who voted. Were you listening?

We felt there were probably a dozen corners in Division III who could've picked 10 balls against that schedule. That's why others made the team ahead of him. No offense to him as a player or person, but there were just others that were better. We wouldn't punish a player who played a better schedule.

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 10:51:03 PM
Unfortunately, I don't study Division III football on a week by week basis like you do. NCC beat Conc-Wisc? Great for them! Who won last year when it counted?

North Central did.

http://www.d3football.com/releases.php?release=8938&scoreboard&year=2006

North Central had no problem avenging its earlier-season defeat to Concordia University (Wis.) after crushing the Falcons 35-6 in the first round of the NCAA III Playoffs Saturday, Nov. 18.

Right, because being a brand means nothing. If we're using your logic, then Allstate never should've been able to buy the Rosemont Horizon because the CEO of Allstate wasn't a huge sports fan...and Minute Maid should not be the name of the Astros ballpark because the owner of the Astros actually does not like minute maid soft drinks.

Was I listening? No. I was reading. I know who votes. Coaches for one, SID's for the other. What's the big difference? Coaches are going to be more biased, and in fact are. Maybe they didn't like how one player acted against his team. Maybe he showed his team up? No vote for him. Do you think an SID cares? No. He'll go on facts. I know, I know....you were an SID for 3 years or whatever it was...and therefore you can speak for all SID's...even ones who have been doing it for 25 years.

Onto Verdone, a dozen corners better than him in D3 football with that schedule. Get real. How many of those dozen corners from 1999 that were better than him got pro tryouts, nfl europe tryouts, and played arena ball. Do you even remember the players names? I doubt it.

Verdone is the best player in the IBC in the past two decades, if not history. I'm willing to bet you never even saw him play.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 11:42:15 PM
And apparently I need to brush up on my D3 football over the past two years.

One thing is for sure, if you're going to try and say that over the course of history North Central has been a better team than Conc-Wisc, you're lying.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 12:01:18 AM
Pro tryouts are all about who you know (and dozens of kids get them a year). Plenty of kids could play Arena ball out of D-III if they didn't turn down chances in order to, you know, get a job and get on with their real lives.

Yawn. Your personal attacks mean nothing to me. You think much worse hasn't been flung at me in a decade between D3hoops and D3football? Spare me. You've got nothing new.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 12:02:42 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 11:40:45 PM
Right, because being a brand means nothing. If we're using your logic, then Allstate never should've been able to buy the Rosemont Horizon because the CEO of Allstate wasn't a huge sports fan...and Minute Maid should not be the name of the Astros ballpark because the owner of the Astros actually does not like minute maid soft drinks.

A free Kickoff subscription to the first person who can demonstrate why this paragraph is relevant. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 13, 2007, 12:09:23 AM
Pat,

I've already subscribed to Kickoff, but let me give it a try! 

The d3sports.com brand is worthless because Pat Coleman doesn't like Orange Juice and doesn't sell enough insurance.  Am I close? :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 13, 2007, 12:18:47 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 12:01:18 AM
Pro tryouts are all about who you know (and dozens of kids get them a year). Plenty of kids could play Arena ball out of D-III if they didn't turn down chances in order to, you know, get a job and get on with their real lives.

Yawn. Your personal attacks mean nothing to me. You think much worse hasn't been flung at me in a decade between D3hoops and D3football? Spare me. You've got nothing new.

Whether that's true or not...which it isn't...though there is no reason to argue who does and doesn't get pro tryouts because I know you'll come up with more and more information to spew out.

Answer this then: if your argument for Verdone not being on your All-American was because of the conference he was in and the teams he played, then why did you select Pat Ryan for All-American when he wasn't even the best DL on his team? Pat Ryan went 2nd team all-conference and Gardiner was 1st team. How does that work?  In fact, the previous year, Gardiner put up better numbers on a better team. How does that work Guru?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 13, 2007, 01:22:36 AM
Man, AYK sure opened up a great big can of wrong today. Looks like he's spilled most of it all over his shirt, too.

How does anyone believe that he can argue with credibility in a room where he insisted that North Central and Carthage are incapable of beating CUW and Lakeland, when in fact the Cards and Red Men actually beat CUW and Lakeland four days ago? And then when that incredible gaffe is pointed out to him, he retorts with a lame comeback about how he "doesn't study Division III football on a week-by-week basis" ... as though bothering to read the final scores of this league's games, which were posted in this room along with the IBC standings by Gomer Pyle last weekend, constituted "study[ing] Division III football".

How does it work that you can assume you're a big enough authority on D3 football in general to take on Pat Coleman and assert that so-and-so was the best cornerback in D3 eight years ago, and you're a big enough authority on this league specifically to pronounce who is capable of beating whom, but you don't even bother to find out who won last Saturday's games? That splash you heard was Pat laughing so hard that he fell off the side of his yacht.

Dismissing the old aphorism "quit while you're behind" as a quaint and unsuitable piece of advice, AYK then followed up this pair of gems with a backpedaling statement (in the form of a rhetorical question) about how North Central couldn't beat CUW "when it counted" ... only to be informed that the Cardinals beat CUW in the freakin' NCAA playoffs last season.

Hewlett-Packard called, AYK. They want a new spokesman. :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 11:42:15 PM
And apparently I need to brush up on my D3 football over the past two years.

One thing is for sure, if you're going to try and say that over the course of history North Central has been a better team than Conc-Wisc, you're lying.

   "over the course of history." 
    Here are some FACTS  I`d like to contribute but first as far as Con U, Wis goes. They do have a pretty impressive % over their football life which by the way, started in  1970.  From that year to 2006 it`s stands at .675.
   With 107 wins ........51 loses.  In that time frame they`ve won 4 Conference Championships and in 1981, 2004 they tied with others.
    Lakeland College on the other hand started in 1940. That aside, they have 114 wins.......90 loses.  Which is a winning %of .558.
    Con U, Wis has the upper hand % wise but in so far as Conference Championships go, Lakeland has won (5) out right and tied in 2004 with others.   
   I`m aware you were taking about North Central and CU-W but as you seem to navigate at will........For my money Lakeland "over history" is  better than NC or CU_W as far as Championships go.  That`s correct Maddog, Lakeland. Calm down AYK, that`s another long time poster.
    "Better team" ambiguous at best.
  A sarcastic retort with out civility   is expected. 
   Looks like your standing in for 7400West. 
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 13, 2007, 10:38:55 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 10:51:03 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 12, 2007, 07:39:46 PM
Are you Kidding,

Um, are YOU kidding (or just memory impaired)?  "...NCC would not win the IBC.  They would have to beat Conc-Wisc and Lakeland, which wouldn't happen."

September 8, 2007 (remember 4 days ago?): NCC 28, CUW 7.  Carthage (picked behind NCC in the CCIW Coaches' Poll) 35, Lakeland 16.

OOPS! ;)

Unfortunately, I don't study Division III football on a week by week basis like you do. NCC beat Conc-Wisc? Great for them! Who won last year when it counted?

Either way, I was speaking as a whole...and over the course of history (and even the recent past) that Conc-Wisc and Lakeland are better teams than North Central. It's not my fault CUW is having a down year.

35-6 in the NCAA play-off when it counted
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 13, 2007, 11:23:57 AM
Are You Kidding Me

You are just making excuses like,"Oh Lakeland had a down year, CUW is having a down year."  NCC would win the IBC this year, its not even debatable. Cause they just beat our likely conference champion by 21.  How are you gonna tell someone who played for all 3 coaches that im wrong.  No one was calling for Murray's head, he chose to leave on a whim, which set us back.  all the players were pushing for mitchell caue he was the D-coordinator under murray.  We thought it was the best choice, but i guess be careful what u wish for.  If you had any clue what it was like under mitchell as compared to cooper you would be more understanding.  A small example of how dfferent it was that isnt score related.  Mitchess requested a 300 check to order spirit pack stuff, cooper asked for 100 and we got more stuff.  There was shady **** going on and im not gonna "spew" more of another man's dirty laundry.  If you would like to know ill tell u i guess.  But the whole attitude changed with cooper as did the effort on the field.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 11:59:47 AM
To answer AYK's question about the 2001 decision, basically, we made the decision based on the information we had available and what we were able to find out. It is really difficult to tell if someone has great numbers because he gets a lot of chances when teams are avoiding someone else. We have continued to work on improving this part of the process, and, as I have gotten to know more coaches in the past eight years the site has improved overall.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 13, 2007, 12:45:26 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 09:58:34 AM
    Lakeland College on the other hand started in 1940. That aside, they have 114 wins.......90 loses.  Which is a winning %of .558.

This is concerning conference games only I assume?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 13, 2007, 01:05:03 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 11:42:15 PM
And apparently I need to brush up on my D3 football over the past two years.

One thing is for sure, if you're going to try and say that over the course of history North Central has been a better team than Conc-Wisc, you're lying.

   "over the course of history." 
    Here are some FACTS  I`d like to contribute but first as far as Con U, Wis goes. They do have a pretty impressive % over their football life which by the way, started in  1970.  From that year to 2006 it`s stands at .675.
   With 107 wins ........51 loses.  In that time frame they`ve won 4 Conference Championships and in 1981, 2004 they tied with others.
    Lakeland College on the other hand started in 1940. That aside, they have 114 wins.......90 loses.  Which is a winning %of .558.
    Con U, Wis has the upper hand % wise but in so far as Conference Championships go, Lakeland has won (5) out right and tied in 2004 with others.   
   I`m aware you were taking about North Central and CU-W but as you seem to navigate at will........For my money Lakeland "over history" is  better than NC or CU_W as far as Championships go.  That`s correct Maddog, Lakeland. Calm down AYK, that`s another long time poster.
    "Better team" ambiguous at best.
  A sarcastic retort with out civility   is expected. 
   Looks like your standing in for 7400West. 
     



That argument makes no sense.  your telling me that Lakeland is a better team beacuse they have 1 more conference championship and a poorer winning percentage.  But they have been around for 30 more years!!! Thats just not an intelligent argument right there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: HarryHood on September 13, 2007, 02:59:15 PM
I've been surfing the IBC threads on and off for a couple years.  Anyone remember Pongo? Are You Kidding Me sounds a lot like Pongo reincarnated. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 03:06:30 PM
Cudud:
    If you had read all posts leading up  to that , maybe it would have made sense.
     Jumping in the middle of an on going to topic and saying."this doesn`t make any sense."   to that I say..............who cares!
    You`ve posted (4) times and your confused.   Hang in there. :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Macinsidelady on September 13, 2007, 03:15:09 PM
FYI...

MacMurray Names New Director of Public Relations

MacMurray College President Colleen Hester announced the appointment of Mike Underwood, a 22-year news and media relations veteran, as the college's new public relations director. Underwood will oversee all media and public relations, publications and sports information for MacMurray, a growing liberal arts institution in West-Central Illinois. "I enthusiastically welcome Mike Underwood to the MacMurray College
community. We are confident that his extensive background in public relations will effectively communicate news about the many ways in which MacMurray College is thriving and transforming students' lives."
Underwood spent the last 8 years working for Illinois state government as a public information officer, outreach coordinator and graphic designer for Healthcare and Family Services. He has also served as a South Jacksonville Trustee, business owner and has been involved in many community based organizations in Jacksonville. Prior to his public service, Underwood served as a United States Air Force Officer with two tours in Desert Storm. Underwood holds a master's degree from Central Michigan University and is a 1985 graduate of Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville with a degree in communications Underwood and his wife, Jo Ellen, reside in Jacksonville with their two children,
Michael, 18 and Matthew, 13.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on September 13, 2007, 12:45:26 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 09:58:34 AM
    Lakeland College on the other hand started in 1940. That aside, they have 114 wins.......90 loses.  Which is a winning %of .558.

This is concerning conference games only I assume?

   The "quoted source" I used showed games in 10`s ( ie, 6-4  7-3  8-2 and so on.)   that indicates to me it`s the OVER=ALL record as opposed to a conference record.                   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 03:43:34 PM
Macinsidelady: 
    Thanks for the up-date.  All I can say is it`s about time.   As the new
    Director of Public Relations who will "over see"  several functions
     including sports information, I wish him well. 
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 03:48:44 PM
I think the post just specifically said that SID was not his only job.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on September 13, 2007, 04:04:22 PM
Pat's right...Mike is the director of ALL public relations.  Also, the Mac website has "Director of Information Technology" and "Sports Statistician" still listed in its employment opportunities.  So we'll see how much Mike has his hands on the football website.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 03:48:44 PM
I think the post just specifically said that SID was not his only job.
MacMurray hired:
  New Director of Public Relations who will "over see"  the  sports information duties along with other functions.
  You are correct.  :)
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: mac_grad on September 13, 2007, 04:04:22 PM
Pat's right...Mike is the director of ALL public relations.  Also, the Mac website has "Director of Information Technology" and "Sports Statistician" still listed in its employment opportunities.  So we'll see how much Mike has his hands on the football website.

  Hey, No piling on!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 04:40:04 PM
I don't think it was piling on. When we wrote those posts, your post said something different than what it says now.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 13, 2007, 05:03:33 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 13, 2007, 01:22:36 AM
Man, AYK sure opened up a great big can of wrong today. Looks like he's spilled most of it all over his shirt, too.

How does anyone believe that he can argue with credibility in a room where he insisted that North Central and Carthage are incapable of beating CUW and Lakeland, when in fact the Cards and Red Men actually beat CUW and Lakeland four days ago? And then when that incredible gaffe is pointed out to him, he retorts with a lame comeback about how he "doesn't study Division III football on a week-by-week basis" ... as though bothering to read the final scores of this league's games, which were posted in this room along with the IBC standings by Gomer Pyle last weekend, constituted "study[ing] Division III football".

How does it work that you can assume you're a big enough authority on D3 football in general to take on Pat Coleman and assert that so-and-so was the best cornerback in D3 eight years ago, and you're a big enough authority on this league specifically to pronounce who is capable of beating whom, but you don't even bother to find out who won last Saturday's games? That splash you heard was Pat laughing so hard that he fell off the side of his yacht.

Dismissing the old aphorism "quit while you're behind" as a quaint and unsuitable piece of advice, AYK then followed up this pair of gems with a backpedaling statement (in the form of a rhetorical question) about how North Central couldn't beat CUW "when it counted" ... only to be informed that the Cardinals beat CUW in the freakin' NCAA playoffs last season.

Hewlett-Packard called, AYK. They want a new spokesman. :D

Based on the fact that you have a North Park avatar, I'm not sure if I should take you seriously. But, for argument's sake, I will just this one time.

If you took reading in first grade, you would know that I never said Carthage was incapable of beating CUW and Lakeland. That aside, my point was that on a year by year basis, North Central is not a team who would consistently compete with Lakeland or Conc-Wisc. Both teams have had down years the past two years (for their program's standards). If you follow the IBC, you would know that.

With regards to the scores, no, I don't study D3 football. I just joined the site two days ago. I wasn't looking up scores.

So North Central has beaten them in two down years? Big deal. North Central and Lakeland have both been more successful over the course of history.

Feel free to get off the guru's you know what while you're at it, you're doing it in PDA form.


Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 11:42:15 PM
And apparently I need to brush up on my D3 football over the past two years.

One thing is for sure, if you're going to try and say that over the course of history North Central has been a better team than Conc-Wisc, you're lying.

   "over the course of history." 
    Here are some FACTS  I`d like to contribute but first as far as Con U, Wis goes. They do have a pretty impressive % over their football life which by the way, started in  1970.  From that year to 2006 it`s stands at .675.
   With 107 wins ........51 loses.  In that time frame they`ve won 4 Conference Championships and in 1981, 2004 they tied with others.
    Lakeland College on the other hand started in 1940. That aside, they have 114 wins.......90 loses.  Which is a winning %of .558.
    Con U, Wis has the upper hand % wise but in so far as Conference Championships go, Lakeland has won (5) out right and tied in 2004 with others.   
   I`m aware you were taking about North Central and CU-W but as you seem to navigate at will........For my money Lakeland "over history" is  better than NC or CU_W as far as Championships go.  That`s correct Maddog, Lakeland. Calm down AYK, that`s another long time poster.
    "Better team" ambiguous at best.
  A sarcastic retort with out civility   is expected. 
   Looks like your standing in for 7400West. 
     

I'm not sure what you want me to say, as you helped my argument. All I can really do is thank you. Then again, I'm sure you love looking up past statistics. When I get some time on my hands like you seem to during the work day, I'll do that.

Quote from: bufan on September 13, 2007, 11:23:57 AM
Are You Kidding Me

You are just making excuses like,"Oh Lakeland had a down year, CUW is having a down year."  NCC would win the IBC this year, its not even debatable. Cause they just beat our likely conference champion by 21.  How are you gonna tell someone who played for all 3 coaches that im wrong.  No one was calling for Murray's head, he chose to leave on a whim, which set us back.  all the players were pushing for mitchell caue he was the D-coordinator under murray.  We thought it was the best choice, but i guess be careful what u wish for.  If you had any clue what it was like under mitchell as compared to cooper you would be more understanding.  A small example of how dfferent it was that isnt score related.  Mitchess requested a 300 check to order spirit pack stuff, cooper asked for 100 and we got more stuff.  There was shady **** going on and im not gonna "spew" more of another man's dirty laundry.  If you would like to know ill tell u i guess.  But the whole attitude changed with cooper as did the effort on the field.

I'm not gonna lie, I haven't followed the IBC this year at all this year. But what is true is the fact that NCC hasn't been a better team than Lakeland or Conc-Wisc (with the exception of this year or last, 2 down years for both teams).

And please, stop making up information. Murray was shoed out by Swanson, Redmond, and the rest of the administration. DON'T act like he was welcome to stay. Murray was simply a replacement for Jeff Hand, who quit the summer before the 2001 season. Out of desperation, the grabbed Murray from Dubuque, who had a horrendous record in his few years there.

I really don't care if you sat on the bench for four years under three coaches. That's your problem. But if you're going to list information about the school, at least be accurate, which you haven't been once so far.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 11:59:47 AM
To answer AYK's question about the 2001 decision, basically, we made the decision based on the information we had available and what we were able to find out. It is really difficult to tell if someone has great numbers because he gets a lot of chances when teams are avoiding someone else. We have continued to work on improving this part of the process, and, as I have gotten to know more coaches in the past eight years the site has improved overall.

Based on the information made available? You're acting like you had no idea who Gardiner was. *Knock Knock* guru, Gardiner was named to your 2001 Preaseason All-American team after you goofed by not naming him to the 2000 team. How would you not know who he is? Obviously, you knew that he played for Benedictine. It just so happened that the following year somebody who played on his SAME defensive line (Ryan, a player who already had 2 years of D3 football and was UNKNOWN) had some amazing year, and you wouldn't stop to think about who's team he was on before you named him to your AA team??

Stop lying and looking for excuses. You've been caught. Just say your All-American system is flawed because you act like you know certain regions of D3 football when you never even pay attention to them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 05:07:59 PM
Yawn, dude. You don't like our decision. We get that. Took you six years to get around to complaining.

Believe me, whoever you are, I have no reason to lie to you. I simply don't care about anonymous six-year-old complaints.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 13, 2007, 05:46:13 PM
Wow, AYK.  You've managed to come off as the biggest azz of all.

"Based on the fact that you have a North Park avatar, I'm not sure if I should take you seriously. But, for argument's sake, I will just this one time." -AYK

First you attack Gregory Sager, one of the most respected posters on D3sports.com, not a good move.  He can tear you to pieces in a literary context.  I'm not even joking he's like superman with a thesaurus. :-)

So you joined the site two days ago? BIG DEAL. No one cares, because you're spouting out alot of useless garbage, and you don't back it up with anything factual.  All the stats, conference records are at you finger tips on this site. Top 25s, conference records, links to schools if you want to go hardcore and look up stats of individual players...

It takes 15 minutes to actually take a second and post something meaningful.

"Both teams have had down years the past two years (for their program's standards). If you follow the IBC, you would know that" -AYK

Um, I'm pretty sure the folks that are responding to you have, Lakeland yes went 5-5 last year, but went 5-2 in the IBC tied for 2nd, CUW went 10-1 (10-0 in regular season) how is that not the exact oppositte of a down year, expecially given the IBC's play-off record.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 13, 2007, 05:47:22 PM
I'm sitting here banging my head against my monitor in attempt to see if that will help me understand the drivel and preposterous logic applied by "Are you kidding".







In case you are wondering... it hasn't help.  Maybe I need to use enough force to make myself dizzy, then it will all make sense.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 13, 2007, 05:49:25 PM
Nope... still not doing it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 13, 2007, 05:51:32 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on September 13, 2007, 12:45:26 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 09:58:34 AM
    Lakeland College on the other hand started in 1940. That aside, they have 114 wins.......90 loses.  Which is a winning %of .558.

This is concerning conference games only I assume?

   The "quoted source" I used showed games in 10`s ( ie, 6-4  7-3  8-2 and so on.)   that indicates to me it`s the OVER=ALL record as opposed to a conference record.                   

Ok, because Lakeland's first football team played in 1934, and the program has an overall record of 305 wins, 276 losses and 13 ties, that according to the college's football media guide.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 13, 2007, 07:02:21 PM
Quote from: cudub on September 13, 2007, 01:05:03 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2007, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 11:42:15 PM
And apparently I need to brush up on my D3 football over the past two years.

One thing is for sure, if you're going to try and say that over the course of history North Central has been a better team than Conc-Wisc, you're lying.

   "over the course of history." 
    Here are some FACTS  I`d like to contribute but first as far as Con U, Wis goes. They do have a pretty impressive % over their football life which by the way, started in  1970.  From that year to 2006 it`s stands at .675.
   With 107 wins ........51 loses.  In that time frame they`ve won 4 Conference Championships and in 1981, 2004 they tied with others.
    Lakeland College on the other hand started in 1940. That aside, they have 114 wins.......90 loses.  Which is a winning %of .558.
    Con U, Wis has the upper hand % wise but in so far as Conference Championships go, Lakeland has won (5) out right and tied in 2004 with others.   
   I`m aware you were taking about North Central and CU-W but as you seem to navigate at will........For my money Lakeland "over history" is  better than NC or CU_W as far as Championships go.  That`s correct Maddog, Lakeland. Calm down AYK, that`s another long time poster.
    "Better team" ambiguous at best.
  A sarcastic retort with out civility   is expected. 
   Looks like your standing in for 7400West. 
     



That argument makes no sense.  your telling me that Lakeland is a better team beacuse they have 1 more conference championship and a poorer winning percentage.  But they have been around for 30 more years!!! Thats just not an intelligent argument right there.


Im not here to be one of those guys who starts fights, but i HAVE read the entire discussion, as i have been reading this board for two years.  And your right i have only posted 4 times, but it doesnt take a member of MENSA to figure out how to have a logical online discussion.  I apologize for sounding like an ass (i guess) in that other post, but all im saying is i really do not agree with your reasoning.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 13, 2007, 07:25:47 PM
This debate on AYKM started with him/her wanting Jon Cooper fired at Benedictine. Obviously he has a deep rooted ax to grind.

The IBFC and CCIW debate is short. Year end and year out the top teams in the CCIW will dominate the IBFC. Who those teams are, will change year to year. Several years ago NCC was struggling but IWC was the power. I remember seeing them play AU in the first round of the playoffs(AU was 10-0) and lost. In most recent history Augi, Wheaton, Carthage and NCC would certainly dominate the IBFC. I mean no disrespect to the IBFC teams, since I have an affiliation with a  couple of the teams. I saw the Carthage/Lakeland game and they were better than Lakeland. Lakeland competed as best they could.

Lets forget this poster and move on discussing IBFC football on a positive basis and not worry about getting someone fired or who was an All-American. As the"DA COACH" used to say only cowards and losers live in the past. Only the 2007 is important. I hope some of you post your picks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 13, 2007, 09:32:21 PM
Old 40-

No disrespect taken for you saying the CCIW being a better conference.  I am sure all of us IBC posters and those affiliated with the conference know it's one of the weakest conferences in all of D-III.....so none taken, at least not from me.

Speaking of picks, I think I am the only one this week to post picks.  I am not sure anyone saw them because of this fellow that goes by the name of "Are you Kidding" that was taking up most of the posts.  So allow me to post them again.

Predictions-

Lakeland Vs. UW-Oshkosh:
UW-Oshkosh is in one of the best conferences in D-III....I guess that's all I have to say.

Lakeland - 10
Oshkosh - 35

Eureka Vs. North Park:
Seems evenly matched....Eureka will use the slanted field to their advantage and Billy Bob cheering in the trailer park for some motivation.

Eureka - 7
North Park - 3

CUC Vs. Rose Hulman:
I just hate to do this, Rose Hulman in my opinion is better then U. of Chicago......but I hope they prove me wrong.

CUC - 17
Rose Hulman - 40

CUW Vs. Wisconsin Lutheran:
Wis. Lutheran seemed improved before the blowout at the hands of Dubuque.  Have no idea what will happen, but will go with Concordia with Wis. Lutheran hanging tough.

CUW - 21
Wis. Lutheran - 14

Greenville Vs. Taylor:
Don't know ANYTHING about Taylor, I only know they are 0-2 and Greenville is pretty darn good.

Greenville - 35
Taylor - 10

Benedictine Vs. NCC:
Uhm, bad news.

Benedictine - 7
NCC - 51

Well that's it, let's here some more.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 13, 2007, 11:39:45 PM
I'm not sure if NCC will get to 51, the WR's and QB's don't seem to have it together enough to put up rediculous numbers, respectable for sure, but I think thier strength is the spread option/counter with Dominic Sulo and Izzy Brown.

Dominic had 4 TD's (out of four total TD's scored by NCC) at CUW last week.  I look for him to have a big game, but unless NCC can get a good balance to keep the defense from stacking 7-8 in the box it could be tough. (normally it would be 8-9, but because the Cards spread it out its too dangerous to put 8-9 in the box).  Cards used some two back shotgun last week.  If Benedictine can key into what the cards are doing it could be a low scoring affair, but the Cardinal D was impressive against CUW, I look for another strong performance this weekend.  I'm hoping with the Cards running the ball well Izzy might have a nice game spelling Sulo.

Anyone from the board gunna be at the game?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 13, 2007, 11:42:15 PM
Hmm... nope.  Mashing my head on the monitor at home isn't helping either.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 14, 2007, 03:21:14 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 13, 2007, 05:03:33 PMBased on the fact that you have a North Park avatar, I'm not sure if I should take you seriously. But, for argument's sake, I will just this one time.

So my posts are of dubious legitimacy because my alma mater has a lousy football team? Brilliant! Hey, alert the media that, because their NFL teams stink, football fans in Atlanta, Cleveland, and Oakland are therefore ignorant and their opinions about football should not be taken seriously.

Bravo, AYK! You're off and running in your attempt to keep your majestic track record in rhetorical logic intact!

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 13, 2007, 05:03:33 PMIf you took reading in first grade

I took naptime, fingerpainting, and I'm A Little Teapot 101. Reading was an elective course that was not required for my first-grade major.

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 13, 2007, 05:03:33 PMyou would know that I never said Carthage was incapable of beating CUW and Lakeland.

True. You never said that directly. But you did say that North Central couldn't beat the Falcons or the Muskies, and as Mr. Ypsi pointed out, Carthage, who beat Lakeland on Saturday, was picked in the CCIW coaches poll to finish below NCC -- a sentiment that seems to be echoed by everyone in the CCIW room except for a couple of holdout Carthage loyalists. Yes, it's entirely possible that the Red Men could beat and/or finish ahead of the Cardinals this season, but at this point the consensus of the unbiased is that NCC has the better team. So, if the greater CCIW team is incapable of beating CUW or Lakeland, why would the lesser CCIW team be able to do so?

Here are your own words on the subject, from your post at 7:22 pm on Wednesday (post #3568):

Quote
Also, Elmhurst or NCC would not win the IBC. They would have to beat Conc-Wisc and Lakeland, which wouldn't happen.

Y'see, son, your basic problem with making foolish statements on this website is that everything's archived.  All we have to do is click back a few pages and then call you on it. And attempting to cover your mistakes with tired gibes about the reading ability of others ain't gonna suddenly make those mistakes smell like a rose.

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 13, 2007, 05:03:33 PMWith regards to the scores, no, I don't study D3 football. I just joined the site two days ago. I wasn't looking up scores.

At least on this particular subject your statements are consistent. Problem is, they're consistently silly. Finding out the scores of the league you purportedly follow and of which you style yourself an expert is "studying"? "No, Mom, I can't take out the garbage. I have to turn on ESPN and read the ticker at the bottom of the screen, because I'm studying to be a sports fan!"

For crying out loud, man, the scores and standings of the IBC were posted in this room by Gomer Pyle and others on Saturday and again on Sunday morning. It's on page 236. Try to keep up, willya? I mean, if it's not too much trouble or anything, if you're going to comment upon this league could you at least "study" who wins and who loses each week as we go along?

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 13, 2007, 05:03:33 PMSo North Central has beaten them in two down years? Big deal. North Central and Lakeland have both been more successful over the course of history.

And how do you know that this season and last have been down years for CUW and Lakeland? (I'm going to climb out on a limb and take it that you meant "CUW" where you typed "North Central" for the second time in that quote above. Otherwise, if you insist that in fact North Central has been more successful than North Central over the course of history, Mugsy's poor wife might find his bloody corpse draped across his smashed monitor.) You weren't even aware of last year's playoff result! More to the point, you haven't been following the league this year, remember? If you don't, let me jog your memory with a quote of yours from this same post:

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 13, 2007, 05:03:33 PMI'm not gonna lie, I haven't followed the IBC this year at all this year.

And yet you're qualified to determine who is down and who isn't in this season that you haven't been following. You're like some sort of savant of self-contradiction. It's almost Zen-like. What is the sound of one poster backpedaling? :D

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 13, 2007, 05:03:33 PMFeel free to get off the guru's you know what while you're at it, you're doing it in PDA form.

Uh huh. Never mind the numerous times that Pat and I have spent days arguing on this site over one topic or another during the ten years that I've posted here and on d3hoops.com, because you've been here for a whole 48 hours now and you're thus the expert on everything and everybody on this site. Since I'm disagreeing with you and agreeing with Pat, it obviously means that rather than being sincere in my argument I am merely trying to curry favor with Pat for ... what? My own wing in the Hall of Fame? Pat, are you building one of those? :D

By my count, your Grade A goofball comments have caused six people besides me to call you out in this room since you showed up this week. Are all seven of us on each other's you-know-whats, and is that even possible? Uh, never mind ... I don't really want to know the answer to that. :o

Quote from: NCC_alum62 on September 13, 2007, 05:46:13 PMSo you joined the site two days ago? BIG DEAL. No one cares, because you're spouting out alot of useless garbage, and you don't back it up with anything factual.  All the stats, conference records are at you finger tips on this site. Top 25s, conference records, links to schools if you want to go hardcore and look up stats of individual players...

It takes 15 minutes to actually take a second and post something meaningful.

Exactly. And that may provide the best nugget of comedy gold of all in this whole affair. AYK's campaign to take on Pat Coleman, Evil Supergenius, and vanquish him once and for all for sullying the good name of the Hewlett-Packard All-American list and for various other misdeeds, is based upon a bunch of six-to-eight-year-old factoids about Benedictine defensive players. As you said, NCC_alum62, this site has a wealth of information on it; anything you need to find out about D3 football that is available on the web can either be found on this site or from a link provided by this site. And yet the facts that have tripped up AYK's campaign to rebut you and me and BUfan and everyone else questioning his authority -- the fact that Carthage beat Lakeland and NCC beat CUW last Saturday, and the fact that NCC beat CUW in the opening round of last season's NCAA playoffs -- aren't matters of obscure trivia that have to be dug up with a 15-minute search of this site or of linked school and conference sites. They're common knowledge to anyone who even casually follows the IBC.

Quote from: NCC_alum62 on September 13, 2007, 05:46:13 PM"Both teams have had down years the past two years (for their program's standards). If you follow the IBC, you would know that" -AYK

Um, I'm pretty sure the folks that are responding to you have, Lakeland yes went 5-5 last year, but went 5-2 in the IBC tied for 2nd, CUW went 10-1 (10-0 in regular season) how is that not the exact oppositte of a down year, expecially given the IBC's play-off record.

Well, yeah. It is the exact opposite of a down year ... unless you're in AYK World, in which case a 5-2 second-place finish and a 10-1 league championship are, in fact, down years ... unless you didn't follow the league at all that year and were thus not in a position to judge any team's downness or upness, in which case ...

The heck with it. Maybe I'll follow Mugsy's cue and bang my head against the monitor to see if it helps AYK's posts make more sense. :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 08:56:23 AM
A Salisbury poster uses an avatar that may be appropriate at this point.

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/jowarne1/index.gif
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 04:40:04 PM
I don't think it was piling on. When we wrote those posts, your post said something different than what it says now.

   I WAS JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I even used  the little yellow icon to express that.
   Remember , you were the one who suggested I use the "icons"  so people could better understand my motive.  I did and now this.
   That being said.........................I was kidding.   ;D ;D    Kidding,
   As far as changing my posts. Yes I did. after you corrected me ;D
    My comments did not seem to apply, so I  changed my take.  I believe  I have every right to change/correct  my posts.
    If that is the wrong assumption, please let me know and I`ll stand corrected. 
    I hope my explainations clarify any and all mis-understandings. 
    I was kidding. ;D ;D ;D 
   
                         
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 09:33:43 AM
Cudud:
           "  You don`t agree with my reasoning."  You certainly don`t have to apologize for that.  Looks like my point was lost in translation.     
      Mensa: The flat stone forming the top of the alter in a RomanCatholic church.
      Oops, you mean...MENSA.   :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 14, 2007, 09:37:59 AM
Baseman201

My picks and Timewilltell's picks are on page 238.

Good Luck to your team this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 09:56:02 AM
Gregory sager:
  Ref your post # 3617.   Always nice to see/read  a post that in response
   to another is fair and balanced.  Point..........counter point. 
   But I`m afraid that when dealing with some logic and reason goes out the window to replaced by shot-gun antics and statements that have no validity.   
   I`m sure that`s not news to you as your been around for some time.
   Enjoyed your comments.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 14, 2007, 10:08:18 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 08:56:23 AM
A Salisbury poster uses an avatar that may be appropriate at this point.

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/jowarne1/index.gif

Oh my gosh... how did the web cam of my evening hit the net so fast? :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 14, 2007, 10:09:59 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 14, 2007, 03:21:14 AM
The heck with it. Maybe I'll follow Mugsy's cue and bang my head against the monitor to see if it helps AYK's posts make more sense. :D

Wow... Mr. Sager,  that has to be one of the more entertaining posts I have read in a long time. Very nice.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 10:20:07 AM
Big_Uns:
      All the stats I put in my post were from, The  College Football Data Wharehouse .  Being the messenger of those stats it looks like I take the hit.  Be gentle.
   I looked at the Lakeland site but could not "find" the facts-figures you supplied.  Key word being "I." 
   You mentioned the , College Football Media Guide.  If that was your source and it appears it was, how do I get a look-see ?   
   Thanks for the feed back.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FormerCard on September 14, 2007, 10:22:19 AM
Very well thought out Mr. Sager
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 14, 2007, 11:10:23 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on September 14, 2007, 10:09:59 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 14, 2007, 03:21:14 AM
The heck with it. Maybe I'll follow Mugsy's cue and bang my head against the monitor to see if it helps AYK's posts make more sense. :D

Wow... Mr. Sager,  that has to be one of the more entertaining posts I have read in a long time. Very nice.

People in my office are looking at me like I'm insane because I'm laughing so hard.


Quote from: NCC_alum62 on September 13, 2007, 05:46:13 PM
Wow, AYK.  You've managed to come off as the biggest azz of all.

"Based on the fact that you have a North Park avatar, I'm not sure if I should take you seriously. But, for argument's sake, I will just this one time." -AYK

First you attack Gregory Sager, one of the most respected posters on D3sports.com, not a good move.  He can tear you to pieces in a literary context.  I'm not even joking he's like superman with a thesaurus. :-)


I warned him...didn't I warn him?  Damn Greg that post was awesome.  Where did you get your education...wait wait let me guess..was it North Park?  I mean because I thought North Park people were obviously terrible at composing sentences and whatnot...I mean because they have a bad football team...or something like that. I read something somewhere  ;D

+K for Greg everyday for the rest of the month, I haven't had this much fun on the board in a while
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Comet 14 on September 14, 2007, 12:50:45 PM
Wow Greg that was impressive. I even think it might have shut him up. On second thought he probably hasn't found anyone to read it to him yet.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 14, 2007, 01:16:11 PM

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Im not here to be one of those guys who starts fights, but i HAVE read the entire discussion, as i have been reading this board for two years.  And your right i have only posted 4 times, but it doesnt take a member of MENSA to figure out how to have a logical online discussion.  I apologize for sounding like an ass (i guess) in that other post, but all im saying is i really do not agree with your reasoning.
[/quote]


If your going to try to be a smart ass, actually read the post it says MENSA.  I have a strong desire to just talk mad Sh** to you at the moment, but im going to refrain because i know this board is not what thats about.  But in the future, if your trying to be a witty little man, at least try to do it properly?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: usee on September 14, 2007, 01:31:22 PM
Greg,

some of your best work. I must now ask, however, a question you have presented many times in this situation: "when will we all stop responding to trolls?" ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 14, 2007, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 10:20:07 AM
Big_Uns:
      All the stats I put in my post were from, The  College Football Data Wharehouse .  Being the messenger of those stats it looks like I take the hit.  Be gentle.
   I looked at the Lakeland site but could not "find" the facts-figures you supplied.  Key word being "I." 
   You mentioned the , College Football Media Guide.  If that was your source and it appears it was, how do I get a look-see ?   
   Thanks for the feed back.
   

Go to a Lakeland home game and bring a couple bucks along, I'm not sure how much they are, if they even cost anything. At this time, Lakeland does not supply a PDF on the athletics' website of the media guides.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 02:37:15 PM
Cudub:
    You read it again!  No, try to understand it.  I`m well aware of what you
     ment and your ref to MENSA. 
   When I said," Oops you mean MENSA  :)" That was ment as a funny.
    Even gave you a   :)  to indicate that.   The little yellow icons are ment
    to assist (to some degree) the mood of the comment.  Looks like in this
     case it didn`t convey that.
       So, to keep you from blowing a head gasket,  it was not ment to be
     offensive in any way.  Hope that defuzes
      your,"I have a strong desire to talk mad sh** to you at the moment.........."  as well.
     This dead  horse has been beat to death, Case closed. 
     
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: Big_Uns on September 14, 2007, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 10:20:07 AM
Big_Uns:
      All the stats I put in my post were from, The  College Football Data Wharehouse .  Being the messenger of those stats it looks like I take the hit.  Be gentle.
   I looked at the Lakeland site but could not "find" the facts-figures you supplied.  Key word being "I." 
   You mentioned the , College Football Media Guide.  If that was your source and it appears it was, how do I get a look-see ?   
   Thanks for the feed back.
   

Go to a Lakeland home game and bring a couple bucks along, I'm not sure how much they are, if they even cost anything. At this time, Lakeland does not supply a PDF on the athletics' website of the media guides.

   Thanks for the up-date.   You just gave me an idea.  Maybe, just maybe
    Maddog will lend me his. He`s sweeping out broom closet in that old
    Tucker car plant in Cleveland and  I`m sure he doesn`t have time to
    reminisce about the glory days of Lakeland.  :D  Smily shows I`m joking.
   
     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 03:23:56 PM
Big_Uns:
   I found this information under: Lakeland College Athletics News.
    Veteran IBFC Coordinator is New lakeland College Football Coach.
    Athletics: Posted 7/2/07.

   Down in the body of the article is says"  ..............Lakeland prepares
   for it`s 71st season.
   2007 minus 71=1936.
   Yet The Lakeland Media Guide you ref says, first football played in 1934.
   Certainly not a big deal but for accuracy, I wonder which it is?
   Let me put a  ;D in there so you know this is just a conversation about a
   subject we`ve been hashing around.
   Do you have the means to see which it is? 
   
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 03:24:32 PM
Probably sat out a couple years during World War II. Lots of programs did.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 14, 2007, 04:24:50 PM
picks for tomorrow......

BU @ North Central - North Central wins with medium ease. 35-14

Rose-Hulman @ CUC -  CUC puts up a good fight, but Rose-Hulman just alot better.  42-12

North Park @ Eureka -  ummm ya..... 12-18  North Park

Lakeland @ UW-Oshkosh -   Lakeland losses 3rd straight.

Wisc. Lutheran @ CUW -  GAME OF THE WEEK.    CUW wins 31-24

Taylor (NAIA) @ GC -  GC wins 28-7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 14, 2007, 06:57:31 PM
Quote from: usee on September 14, 2007, 01:31:22 PM
Greg,

some of your best work. I must now ask, however, a question you have presented many times in this situation: "when will we all stop responding to trolls?" ;D

Hopefully my final word on the subject, but you brought up the dreaded 'T' word! ;D

To me, a troll is a 'drive-by' making an outrageous comment just to rile up folks.  As I see it, this is not AyK - I think he is nursing a grudge, and is clearly (and belatedly) admittedly uninformed about his peripheral comments.

I don't think he is a classic 'troll', but I do think that matching wits with him is akin to duelling with an unarmed man. ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SCARED KITTY on September 14, 2007, 08:31:39 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 03:24:32 PM
Probably sat out a couple years during World War II. Lots of programs did.
Out 1943, 1944 and 1945
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 15, 2007, 12:12:42 AM
Thanks for the nice thoughts, guys, but due credit for calling AYK on the carpet should go to our whistleblower, Mr. Ypsi.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: wabashcpa on September 15, 2007, 12:31:37 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 14, 2007, 06:57:31 PM
I don't think he is a classic 'troll', but I do think that matching wits with him is akin to duelling with an unarmed man. ;)

Or the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 15, 2007, 12:47:03 AM
Tru-

I love your CUC prediction.  CUC puts up a good fight but still loses 42-12.

Just thought it was funny,  ;D

See, I used one of the little yellow icons to show if I am serious or not.....just like we were told.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: tjcummingsfan on September 15, 2007, 01:08:02 PM
Aw come on AYK, where's the response, I need some more Saturday morning/early afternoon reading!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 15, 2007, 05:12:55 PM
Just got word, CUC loses 31-13.

Not a HORRIBLE score, especially to a team we all thought was better then U. of Chicago.  Hopefully they keep on improving and win some conference games.

Any more updates?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 15, 2007, 05:40:07 PM
Lakeland 7-UWOshgosh 62 Final

Too much for Lakeland to handle. Brutal Non-conference schedule. Will be competitive in the IBFC. Must overcome more injuries. They can make this an interesting race.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 15, 2007, 08:25:04 PM
I figured it would be a blowout but 62 points?

Wow, anyone else have updates?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 15, 2007, 10:06:05 PM
Looks like agood game in Upland, In. as Taylor(NAIA) beats Greenville 35-28, according to the NAIA wb site.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 15, 2007, 11:47:08 PM
Final from Eureka:

NPU 33
Eureka 12

Pretty much a reprise of last season's Vikings romp at NPU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 16, 2007, 08:20:30 AM
D-3 Scoreboard:
   
(1)  Beneditine-0   At  North Central-47
  (2)  Taylor-35 at  Greenville-28.   Not what  Greenville expected I`m sure but as it was a non-conference game, may be more of an embarrassment than anything else. 
  (3) UW_Oshkosh-62     Lakeland-7.  UW_O is now 3-0,  scoring 140 points for and only 16 against.  Give Lakeland credit for scheduling strong non-conference opponents. Whose collective records are (to this point) 8-1.
    Maddog, remember the good old days.  :D
  (4)  Con,Wis.-32  vs  Wis Lutheran-14.  (2) weak teams loom on the
   horizon as CU_W  next couple of games are against Eureka and MacMurray.   
  (5) Rose-Hulman 31   CU_C 13
     .  "Believers"  there is light at the end of the tunnel.  You still get to play Eureka and MacMurray. 2 wins guaranteed.   
   
   
     
       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: neweraibfc on September 16, 2007, 03:14:39 PM
I was at the North Central - Benedictine game yesterday...just a casual observation, but if BU wasn't completly inept offensivly they could have been in a position to play for a win.  Anyone else's thoughts?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 16, 2007, 05:30:23 PM
Neweraibfc-

Was that a sarcastic comment??

Because I didn't see any yellow icons.

Pat told us to use the yellow icons when we are being sarcastic or not serious.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:24:40 AM
Sager,

I don't visit this site everyday, so don't get too excited that I haven't responded to his obscenely long post. This isn't a matter of "oh snap he didn't respond, you da man."
The truth is, I just read the post, well, some of it. I'm not going to take my entire evening muli-quoting separate parts of your post just to get you excited.

I know it makes you feel important when you write a very long post...and I'm sure it excites certain people on this site because they have nothing interesting going on in their lives...hence, why they sit on this messageboard hours a day discussing division three football.

Let's get something straight though...just because you sit here with your thesaurus and try to sound smarter than you are does not make you important.

My points have been simple, yet true.

It all started with the Guru stating that All-American teams other than D3football.com and the other one were not worth the paper they are printed on. I argued that it was not true. I don't know how someone can sit here and discredit an HP All-American team, especially when the player I named was amazing.

The Guru said that he wasn't chosen because "they" thought a dozen db's that year would have had similar stats playing in the IBC with the schedule Benedictine had.

I mention somebody from Benedictine going D3football.com AA...and that it was because of double teams to a better player. He said that it was difficult to tell if someone has great numbers because somebody else was being double teamed. 

How can it be difficult to tell that when he named the other DL on that team to his Preseason All-American team? Wouldn't it cross his mind that "wow, this guy from Benedictine put up great numbers...but didn't I name somebody else to the Preseason team? Wait, they are both D-lineman, is there a correlation?"

I'm just looking for some consistency here. That is not much to ask.

Finally, my point regarding North Central College not being the best in the IBC was a year in/year out thing, not simply based on games that have happened in the last 12 months.

CUW and Lakeland have been better than NCC over the course of history...and it's simple as that. That does not mean NCC wasn't better this year or last.

And if you would like to argue that Lakeland has not had down years the past 2 years, you're pretty dumb. 0-3 this year...5-5 last year. That's a down year for a team like Lakeland.

But go ahead, open up that Thesaurus and try to sound smart in your next post. Make sure you multi-quote everything and take a long time revising your post. You have people to impress on this messageboard. Don't screw it up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:31:54 AM
Somebody tell me what Jon Cooper does all week, because he certainly does not game plan.

141 yards of total offense? That's with a 68 yard final drive. So 73 yards?

73 YARDS OF OFFENSE? Come on. Someone tell me. What does this guy do all week during film, meetings, etc. You don't need to gameplan to gain 73 yards of offense. Add that to the 101 yards of offtense against Elmhurst. What is going on?

BU allowed 261 yards rushing also. What did the defense do all week in practice?

This is beyond pathetic.

Benedictine's administration needs to take action. If the last two coaches got 2 years, this man should've be out by now. If he's not out by season's end, Benedictine's football program should just fold.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 17, 2007, 12:36:20 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2007, 03:23:56 PM
Big_Uns:
   I found this information under: Lakeland College Athletics News.
    Veteran IBFC Coordinator is New lakeland College Football Coach.
    Athletics: Posted 7/2/07.

   Down in the body of the article is says"  ..............Lakeland prepares
   for it`s 71st season.
   2007 minus 71=1936.
   Yet The Lakeland Media Guide you ref says, first football played in 1934.
   Certainly not a big deal but for accuracy, I wonder which it is?
   Let me put a  ;D in there so you know this is just a conversation about a
   subject we`ve been hashing around.
   Do you have the means to see which it is? 
   
   
     

Pat and SCARED KITTY are correct.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 17, 2007, 12:42:21 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:24:40 AM
Sager,

I don't visit this site everyday, so don't get too excited that I haven't responded to his obscenely long post. This isn't a matter of "oh snap he didn't respond, you da man."
The truth is, I just read the post, well, some of it. I'm not going to take my entire evening muli-quoting separate parts of your post just to get you excited.

I know it makes you feel important when you write a very long post...and I'm sure it excites certain people on this site because they have nothing interesting going on in their lives...hence, why they sit on this messageboard hours a day discussing division three football.

Let's get something straight though...just because you sit here with your thesaurus and try to sound smarter than you are does not make you important.

My points have been simple, yet true.

It all started with the Guru stating that All-American teams other than D3football.com and the other one were not worth the paper they are printed on. I argued that it was not true. I don't know how someone can sit here and discredit an HP All-American team, especially when the player I named was amazing.

The Guru said that he wasn't chosen because "they" thought a dozen db's that year would have had similar stats playing in the IBC with the schedule Benedictine had.

I mention somebody from Benedictine going D3football.com AA...and that it was because of double teams to a better player. He said that it was difficult to tell if someone has great numbers because somebody else was being double teamed. 

How can it be difficult to tell that when he named the other DL on that team to his Preseason All-American team? Wouldn't it cross his mind that "wow, this guy from Benedictine put up great numbers...but didn't I name somebody else to the Preseason team? Wait, they are both D-lineman, is there a correlation?"

I'm just looking for some consistency here. That is not much to ask.

Finally, my point regarding North Central College not being the best in the IBC was a year in/year out thing, not simply based on games that have happened in the last 12 months.

CUW and Lakeland have been better than NCC over the course of history...and it's simple as that. That does not mean NCC wasn't better this year or last.

And if you would like to argue that Lakeland has not had down years the past 2 years, you're pretty dumb. 0-3 this year...5-5 last year. That's a down year for a team like Lakeland.

But go ahead, open up that Thesaurus and try to sound smart in your next post. Make sure you multi-quote everything and take a long time revising your post. You have people to impress on this messageboard. Don't screw it up.



So you respond to what you call "an obscenely long post" with an obscenely long post bashing Sager calling him dumb while you are combining the words "Message" and "board" for some reason? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 17, 2007, 12:51:20 AM
AyK,

May I submit the possibility that BU's main problem is not bad coaches, but high turnover of coaches (which you wish to extend)?  And their problem on Saturday was not inept coaching but that they ran into a vastly superior team?  (Voters in the poll were so impressed by NCC's 47-0 victory that they fell from 13th to 14th.)

I see that you are now claiming ONLY a down period for Lakeland (despite them finishing tied for 2nd in the IBC, and a favorite in the race again this year), rather than them AND CUW.  That may be wise, since last year CUW had the only 10-0 regular season in their history - if that's down, don't let them ever be up! :o

Before you continue to make a fool of yourself against people who know something about d3 football, perhaps you should gain a tiny bit of knowledge.

(BTW, despite jokes to the contrary, I'm not sure Greg even OWNS a thesaurus.  Despite attending that football factory known as North Park, I think he got a reasonably good education anyway.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 17, 2007, 12:58:14 AM
I agree with Big Uns
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 17, 2007, 01:27:26 AM
AyK,

BTW, just checked the Lakeland website.  While they didn't have records (that I found, at least) prior to 2002, their regular season records were 2005: 8-2, 2004: 7-3, 2003: 8-2, 2002: 6-4 (with a note that it was their first winning season since 1998).  5-5 in 2006 was 'way down' from which 'Golden Age'??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 17, 2007, 01:29:13 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:24:40 AM
Sager,

I don’t visit this site everyday, so don’t get too excited that I haven’t responded to his obscenely long post. This isn’t a matter of “oh snap he didn’t respond, you da man.”
The truth is, I just read the post, well, some of it. I’m not going to take my entire evening muli-quoting separate parts of your post just to get you excited.

I know it makes you feel important when you write a very long post…and I’m sure it excites certain people on this site because they have nothing interesting going on in their lives…hence, why they sit on this messageboard hours a day discussing division three football.

Let’s get something straight though…just because you sit here with your thesaurus and try to sound smarter than you are does not make you important.

My points have been simple, yet true.

It all started with the Guru stating that All-American teams other than D3football.com and the other one were not worth the paper they are printed on. I argued that it was not true. I don’t know how someone can sit here and discredit an HP All-American team, especially when the player I named was amazing.

The Guru said that he wasn’t chosen because “they” thought a dozen db’s that year would have had similar stats playing in the IBC with the schedule Benedictine had.

I mention somebody from Benedictine going D3football.com AA…and that it was because of double teams to a better player. He said that it was difficult to tell if someone has great numbers because somebody else was being double teamed. 

How can it be difficult to tell that when he named the other DL on that team to his Preseason All-American team? Wouldn’t it cross his mind that “wow, this guy from Benedictine put up great numbers…but didn’t I name somebody else to the Preseason team? Wait, they are both D-lineman, is there a correlation?”

I’m just looking for some consistency here. That is not much to ask.

Finally, my point regarding North Central College not being the best in the IBC was a year in/year out thing, not simply based on games that have happened in the last 12 months.

CUW and Lakeland have been better than NCC over the course of history…and it’s simple as that. That does not mean NCC wasn’t better this year or last.

And if you would like to argue that Lakeland has not had down years the past 2 years, you’re pretty dumb. 0-3 this year…5-5 last year. That’s a down year for a team like Lakeland.

But go ahead, open up that Thesaurus and try to sound smart in your next post. Make sure you multi-quote everything and take a long time revising your post. You have people to impress on this messageboard. Don’t screw it up.


Actually I made the Thesaurus crack, not Greg...so you're pretty much 0 for the century on that...

I didn't see a single person come on here and say NCC had a better historical record...find the quote and put it up if you can...but you can't.  Those of us that were discussing were talking about the recent past and present situation of football in the IBC and CCIW.   Which you still come off as a complete jack azz when trying to say anything meaningful.

Those of us that post that actually attended NCC KNOW! We know how bad the program used to be in CCIW play.  I lived it for one season before Thorne came and turned the program around and got to enjoy three good seasons with his coaching staff.  I've seen Cardinal football be bad.  But the point you keep missing is the fact that we're not talking about the historical aspect, we're talking about THIS season, not what would have happened 30-20-10 years ago.


But since you say keep bringing up the past here are some stats for you:

NCC vs IBC Alltime:

vs Aurora: 3-0
vs Benedictine: 15-3
vs Concordia Chicago: 6-2
vs Concordia Wisconsin: 2-1
vs Eureka: 5-3

never played MacMurray, Greenville, or Lakeland, so since 1898 NCC is 31-7 vs the current IBC all time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 17, 2007, 03:05:37 AM
Six Sure Signs That Someone Has Lost An Internet Argument:

1. He's complaining about the length of a post rather than its content -- particularly if his complaint post is long, too.

2. He's sniping at the broad vocabulary of his opponent, rather than at what those big words are actually saying. This is an especially bad tactic to use if he's elsewhere demeaning his opponent's intelligence. After all, even ad hominem attacks require some consistency.

3. He's jettisoning his responses to what his opponent has actually said, in favor of a lengthy response to what some other opponent (i.e., Pat Coleman) said in a completely separate argument that didn't involve the first opponent at all.

4. The ol' "get a life" or "you people have nothing better to do than write/read posts all day" ploy. Note for future reference to anyone who wishes to play this card: This is not the proverbial ace in the hole in rhetorical poker.

5. He's inadvertently providing the "messageboard" with punchlines:

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:24:40 AMI'm just looking for some consistency here. That is not much to ask.

... and, last but not least ...

6. He keeps falling into the same hole that he dug for himself when the argument began. To wit:

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:24:40 AMCUW and Lakeland have been better than NCC over the course of history and it's simple as that. That does not mean NCC wasn't better this year or last.

And yet:

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 12, 2007, 07:22:18 PMAlso, Elmhurst or NCC would not win the IBC. They would have to beat Conc-Wisc and Lakeland, which wouldn't happen.

"Over the course of history"? That quote of yours from Wednesday wasn't worded in the past tense, m'boy. Now, as a graduate of a school with a bad football team I've obviously received an inferior education, but I'm pretty darn sure that, "They would have to beat Conc-Wisc and Lakeland, which wouldn't happen"
is what we simple folk like to call a present conditional statement. In other words, your concluding blurt from this evening's extravaganza, "That does not mean that NCC wasn't better this year or last", directly contradicts the statement above that you made on Wednesday.

Sorry that I'm forced to keep parsing your statements like that, but, after all, I'm just looking for some consistency here. That is not much to ask.

Right?

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:24:40 AMAnd if you would like to argue that Lakeland has not had down years the past 2 years, you're pretty dumb. 0-3 this year 5-5 last year. That's a down year for a team like Lakeland.

So you're going to keep insisting upon arguing about two IBC seasons that you also insist that you haven't followed? Man, you really are the gift that keeps on giving, aren't you?

OK, let's look at the evidence. Here's Lakeland's IBC records since 1999:

yearW-Lplace
20065-22nd
20057-01st
20046-11st
20036-12nd
20024-34th
20013-45th
20003-44th
19994-32nd

Yeah, that's pretty far down, all right. The poor Muskies must be beside themselves, having plummeted all the way down to second place last season. What a free fall. Off with the Lakeland coach's head!

As for Lakeland's non-conference performance, the Muskies have lost at least two regular-season non-conference games every year since '99, with the exception of '02 and '03. The reason why they're losing all three of them now rather than merely two is simple: Starting last season, Lakeland replaced Northwestern (MN) on the schedule with UW-Oshkosh -- and the schools with whom Lakeland had a contract before Northwestern (MN) were hapless even by Northwestern's marginal standards: Tri-State and Colorado College.

UWO has gone 7-0 against CUW and Lakeland since 2002, and the last four of those wins (two against the Falcons, two against the Muskies) have been by a combined score of 155-33. Think that this switch in opponents for '06 might've somehow made a difference in Lakeland's non-conference performance? Hmm?

I also couldn't help but notice that CUW is conspicuously absent from this particular diatribe of yours. On Thursday afternoon (post #3606) you informed me that CUW was down last year, and added, "If you followed the IBC, you would know that." In fact, you said twice within that Thursday afternoon post that the Falcons were down in '06. Shortly thereafter, NCC_alum62 kindly informed you that CUW went 10-1 last season and was the undefeated champion in IBC play. Your silence with regard to NCC_alum62's point is deafening.

I await with bated breath your further thoughts about the seasons that you haven't been following this league.

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 17, 2007, 12:51:20 AM(BTW, despite jokes to the contrary, I'm not sure Greg even OWNS a thesaurus.

Of course I don't own a thesaurus, Chuck. Everyone knows that dinosaurs became extinct millions of years ago.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ncc58 on September 17, 2007, 11:14:26 AM
Benedictine actually beat NCC in 2002. Since then, the games have become one sided. Now, you can attribute that to John Cooper but it also coincides with John Thorne coming to NCC.

It wasn't the worst defeat that BU has ever had to NCC. In 1979, it was 61-0 and a few years ago it was 55-0. NCC has shutout BU in three of the last four years.

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:31:54 AM
This is beyond pathetic.

Benedictine's administration needs to take action. If the last two coaches got 2 years, this man should've be out by now. If he's not out by season's end, Benedictine's football program should just fold.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2007, 11:30:37 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:24:40 AM
How can it be difficult to tell that when he named the other DL on that team to his Preseason All-American team?

Easy. We don't look at the preseason team for one second when putting together the postseason team. It isn't fair to judge a 2002 postseason team off of 2001 performance.

Your insistence at continuing this argument makes me think you're the guy we left off. Why did it take you five years to complain?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 17, 2007, 12:11:56 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2007, 11:30:37 AM
Your insistence at continuing this argument makes me think you're the guy we left off. Why did it take you five years to complain?

My thought exactly... he has such an ax to grind that logic is out the window.  It is either the player or a family member.

My advice... just let it go dude.  While post season honors are great and nice to reflect on, a large percentage of people can not recall who made All-American for each year.  Focus on the positive experiences while playing D3 athletics, though it seems like AYK probably would be challenged to do so given how bitter he is.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 17, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 17, 2007, 03:05:37 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 17, 2007, 12:51:20 AM(BTW, despite jokes to the contrary, I'm not sure Greg even OWNS a thesaurus.

Of course I don't own a thesaurus, Chuck. Everyone knows that dinosaurs became extinct millions of years ago.

Sorry, I keep forgetting that you are much younger than I.  Thesauri were still roaming widely on the Titan campus when Mr. Ypsi roomed with Barney Rubble.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 17, 2007, 04:29:35 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 17, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 17, 2007, 03:05:37 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 17, 2007, 12:51:20 AM(BTW, despite jokes to the contrary, I'm not sure Greg even OWNS a thesaurus.

Of course I don't own a thesaurus, Chuck. Everyone knows that dinosaurs became extinct millions of years ago.

Sorry, I keep forgetting that you are much younger than I.  Thesauri were still roaming widely on the Titan campus when Mr. Ypsi roomed with Barney Rubble.

That Barney Rubble, what an actor.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 17, 2007, 05:56:43 PM
I think we all should ignore, the grudge master with the ax to grind. Coop's game plan was OK. The problem is that NCC is REAL GOOD. They have more athletes and some of their top athletes are on a higher level than Benedictine's. Game Plans will come up blank at times when you have to face teams that have more top line athletes.

I can tell you that Lakeland's Game plan the last 3 weeks was sound. Lakeland did not have the firepower to match UWW, Carthage and UWO (3 of the top 44 teams perD3football). IMO, no IBFC teams has the firepower to compete, any better, with those horses.  This is not the forum to grind axes. Let's discuss the games each week and make the predictions. I for one will not post a repy, again, to this guy/girl/whatever.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 17, 2007, 06:13:51 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 17, 2007, 05:56:43 PM
I think we all should ignore, the grudge master with the ax to grind. Coop's game plan was OK. The problem is that NCC is REAL GOOD. They have more athletes and some of their top athletes are on a higher level than Benedictine's. Game Plans will come up blank at times when you have to face teams that have more top line athletes.

I can tell you that Lakeland's Game plan the last 3 weeks was sound. Lakeland did not have the firepower to match UWW, Carthage and UWO (3 of the top 44 teams perD3football). IMO, no IBFC teams has the firepower to compete, any better, with those horses.  This is not the forum to grind axes. Let's discuss the games each week and make the predictions. I for one will not post a repy, again, to this guy/girl/whatever.

I agree with you on the game plan, allthough he tried to run some wing t which was not smart considering we game plan against that for auggie (and CUW), his QB made a couple decent throws, but the line was not good.  Not to mention the 3-3-5 with good athletes is incredibly difficult to block.

North Park ran it when I was playing at NCC but we zoned them all day and they were not good enough to run that defense. Regardless when run right you can drop 8 or keep 8 in the box with the same personel, the stunts and blitz really allow athletic (and at many times smaller teams to nuetralize bigger opponents.  NCC is definetly not very big at LB, they have some decent size at DL, but those guys are quick and hard hitters at LB.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 17, 2007, 07:55:32 PM
I agree that the 3-3-5 can be a very effective defense, given you have the proper athletes for it.  However i think much of that defense is mental.  If you can understand, and predict (as on offensive lineman) whats going to be happening, you can block it fairly well.  When CUW scrimmages carthage every year, they only go over that defense for about 1 or 2 practices, and it was no harder than your average 4-3/3-5/5-2 assuming you understood the basic premises of the defense.  Just wanted to throw that out there.  (although BU stood no chance against ncc anyway)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 17, 2007, 11:46:08 PM
Those of you who think Benedictine's struggles are caused or due to Coach Cooper are mistaken and just plain WRONG.  Those who know Coach Cooper know he is a very solid coach and is a great motivator of his players.  Benedictine's numbers are the most I can ever recall and rags-riches doesn't happen overnight.  North Central is ranked  and Elmhurst is on the cusp of being ranked, so it's not like the Eagles are playing weak competition.  Just my two cents, but I don't think you can point the finger directly at Coach Cooper for Benedictine's troubles.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 18, 2007, 06:27:50 PM
Quote from: midwestfb on September 17, 2007, 11:14:26 AM
Benedictine actually beat NCC in 2002. Since then, the games have become one sided. Now, you can attribute that to John Cooper but it also coincides with John Thorne coming to NCC.

It wasn't the worst defeat that BU has ever had to NCC. In 1979, it was 61-0 and a few years ago it was 55-0. NCC has shutout BU in three of the last four years.

Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 17, 2007, 12:31:54 AM
This is beyond pathetic.

Benedictine's administration needs to take action. If the last two coaches got 2 years, this man should've be out by now. If he's not out by season's end, Benedictine's football program should just fold.

That was a horrific game, every DT for Benedictine left the game with an arm injury, freaked the hell out of us.  We couldn't believe we lost that game after racking up over 500 yards of offense (unfortunetly so did BU)

We played that game against Mitchell our old line coach.  Always thought he was a good guy, someone thought he did some shady things regarding "spirit packs", I don't think Mitchell would have ever intentionally done anything to hurt a player expecially one of his own in any way or try to pocket anything, some coaches are better at getting deals than others, at NCC Thorne brought in alot more sponsership and free stuff for the players and made anything we put in stretch farther because he is a great fund raiser and promoter of the program.  NCC is sponsered by New Balance this year and got all new jerseys, cleats, gloves, travel suits, etc for free.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 19, 2007, 12:25:38 PM
So what are everyone's picks for the IBC this week?

Greenville vs Lakeland Lakeland
Benedictine vs Concordia (Ill.) Benedictine
Concordia (Wis.) vs Eureka Concordia (Wis.)
Aurora  vs MacMurray Aurora
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on September 19, 2007, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on September 19, 2007, 12:25:38 PM
So what are everyone's picks for the IBC this week?

Greenville vs Lakeland Lakeland
Benedictine vs Concordia (Ill.) Benedictine
Concordia (Wis.) vs Eureka Concordia (Wis.)
Aurora  vs MacMurray Aurora]


Lakeland At Greenville-  At home for the Panthers but Muskies get the win.
Benedictine At CUC- At home , I think CUC gets this one.
CUW At Eureka-  Next Question Please! CUW - big!
MacMurray At Aurora- Next Question Please! Aurora gets this one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 19, 2007, 03:41:42 PM
Justin Grant of Greenville College is the Illini-Badger Football Conference defensive player of the week for games of Saturday, Sept. 15.

Grant had five solo tackles and three assisted tackles in Greenville's 35-28 loss to Taylor (Ind.). Three and a half of Grant's tackles resulted in a loss of 26 yards for the opposing team. He had two sacks for 17 yards.
"www.greenville.edu"

Game picks...........

CUW vs Eureka:  CUW wins big. 52-7

Aurora vs MAC: AU wins 28-14

BU vs CUC: Close game. Both wanting to show there better than what people think.  CUC wins 24-21

*** GAME OF THE WEEK ***

Lakeland @ GREENVILLE:  Greenville in the hunt for the conf. championship, but have to get past Lakeland first.   Defense will have to step up huge and when GC defense causes a turnover GC offense HAS TO CAPITALIZE ON IT WITH SOME POINTS ON THE BOARD!!!   

GC wins 21-17
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 19, 2007, 06:35:12 PM
Predictions:

No extravagant template from me this time.

Eureka Vs. CUW - Billy Bob better get the trailer park together and start praying
CUW wins big - 55-10

Benedictine Vs. CUC - both teams have alot to prove, close game fought to the end, but Benedictine wins this one - 25-21

Lakeland Vs. Greenville - Road to the final IBC title starts here for a Greenville team that I hear can win it all, Greenville will be fire up.
Greenville wins - 31-25

MAC Vs. Aurora - Uhm, Aurora looking for first win, MAC just looking for something good to happen, but won't this week.
Aurora wins, but not by a HUGE amount - 34-20

Has anyone ever been to an NAIA football game? It seems to me the talent is the same if not better then that of D-III.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 19, 2007, 08:21:36 PM
AU's Defense is strong......Everyone, Mac probably won't score....AU wins hands down probably big, lets get real AYK has skewed everybody's reality
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 19, 2007, 08:48:30 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 19, 2007, 06:35:12 PM
Predictions:

No extravagant template from me this time.

Eureka Vs. CUW - Billy Bob better get the trailer park together and start praying
CUW wins big - 55-10

Benedictine Vs. CUC - both teams have alot to prove, close game fought to the end, but Benedictine wins this one - 25-21

Lakeland Vs. Greenville - Road to the final IBC title starts here for a Greenville team that I hear can win it all, Greenville will be fire up.
Greenville wins - 31-25

MAC Vs. Aurora - Uhm, Aurora looking for first win, MAC just looking for something good to happen, but won't this week.
Aurora wins, but not by a HUGE amount - 34-20

Has anyone ever been to an NAIA football game? It seems to me the talent is the same if not better then that of D-III.

So it is only a mirage that d3 is 14-3 against NAIA teams so far in 2007? ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 19, 2007, 11:10:05 PM
Well hey Ypsi it's why I was asking.   ;D

Now I have the factual information and can conclude that D-III obviously has the better talent.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 19, 2007, 11:20:31 PM
Well, technically, 17 games is an awfully small (and nonrandom) sample to draw ANY conclusions, but my impression would be that d3 is stronger at the top, at least as bad at the bottom (probably worse), but overall probably a bit better on average. 

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 20, 2007, 10:53:24 AM
My picks for this weeks games. Some real good match-ups.

CUW over Eureka, Worst game of the day. Defending champs win big 42-7.

Benedictine over CUC; toss up game, very close and can go either way. The Eagles nip CUC 14-13.

Aurora over Mac; The 2nd. worst game of the day. AU has too much Defense. 32-0

Lakeland over Greenville; The game of the week. GC is preseason pick to win it all. Lakeland coming off 3 losses. Lakeland wins a great game and a very close game. I think the tough losses will pay off. The key to a Lakeland win is stopping the GC QB(he may be the best in the IBFC) 24-21.


TruCountry95
Good Luck to you this week, It should be a great game. I hope for no injuries on each team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2007, 11:14:23 AM
If the majority of your exposure to D-III is IBFC teams, then yes, the NAIA in general is better. But it's a big D-III out there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on September 20, 2007, 02:48:48 PM
Old40 and Tru-
Greenville has to prove they belong in the top tier.  Until then CUW/LL/AU are the teams to beat. All Teams, have a good and safe weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 20, 2007, 04:48:01 PM
Quote from: Timewilltell on September 20, 2007, 02:48:48 PM
Old40 and Tru-
Greenville has to prove they belong in the top tier.  Until then CUW/LL/AU are the teams to beat. All Teams, have a good and safe weekend.


What the hell else do you want them to prove?  Beat AU in 2006, Took CUW to overtime they didn't even score till the 4th quarter with the great and powerful offense of theirs in 06.  GC got the ball rolling in 2005 on becoming a top teir team when everyone was expecting Lakeland the 05 conference champions to blow them out by 4TD's or more and GC's defense shut them down and shut down CUW. GC still got the loss but then it started to get people to looked at us at GC football different and new it wasn't the same crap.  Then last year happened.  In my opinion there's just been a shift in the same old power houses.  Lakeland and CUW are going to be up there until someone knocks them off and noone has. GC is the only team that has gotten close. AU was a top tier but they haven't been the same AU like the years in the past.  GC beat them last year and will probably beat them again this year. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 20, 2007, 05:41:15 PM
Greenville can not be top tier until they win the conference.  That just makes sense.  A few good wins over a couple years, and almost beating good teams does not make you a top tier team.  I'm not disrespecting GC, i think they have the best chance of any of the "lower" teams to win the conference, but until they do, i don't think they can be considered top tier.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 20, 2007, 06:17:54 PM
Quote from: cudub on September 20, 2007, 05:41:15 PM
Greenville can not be top tier until they win the conference.  That just makes sense.  A few good wins over a couple years, and almost beating good teams does not make you a top tier team.  I'm not disrespecting GC, i think they have the best chance of any of the "lower" teams to win the conference, but until they do, i don't think they can be considered top tier.

Agreed, gotta win the conference title to be considered a top team, you have to be consistant in not only playing the good teams well but also beating them, and not just beating one of the normal "top tier teams" but beating all of them.

No one is saying they cannot do it or that they don't have talent, they need to just go ahead and do it this season, then they have to do it all over again in a new conference next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 20, 2007, 06:38:17 PM
NCC Alum

I actually was a freshemn in that game u speak of in 2002 where we had 2 d-tackles go down with arm injuries.  Very odd for sure.  And the spirit pack thing was just a basic example and i may very well be wrong i have no concrete proof.,  Just my educated guess.   And as i said before he was a very good assistant like you pointed out as well.  But perhaps the responsibilities of a head coach arent for everyone, b/c he is also doing a good job with the oline at chicago.

TruCountry, i disagree that GC is a team to beat I think it is very agreeable to say its on Lakeland or Conc Wis.  I wouldnt included Aurora lately, as in the last 2 seasons because of the signficant drop off.  I truly think its LC, Conc Wis at the top, GC and AU the next 2 followed by BU and Mac, then CUC and EC.  Im not saying this is how they will finish the conf. but just an average rating of the last 2-3 seasons.  But a real positive is about 5-6 years ago, GC was in the lower half, about 6 or 7 in conf.  They have made a very respectable climb.


LC over GC
BU over CUC
CUW over EC
AU over MC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog08 on September 20, 2007, 08:27:26 PM
Gomer I do remember the great times we had, trust me LAKELAND IS READY FOR THE SEASON, they have pride, as for you, you knucklehead it took me a while to get out of the trucker closet, damn that place is huge. Cleveland sucks but its a job and a adventure. Browns, not like my Lions OHH undefeated Lions, are not to good. We did have some good fun on this site for 3 yrs +. Don't forget Lakeland does have ROMANOSKI AT LB.

Go MUSKIES
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 20, 2007, 09:01:32 PM
GC beats AU once.....AU beats GC numerous times....one "W" does not a top tier team make.....AU finishes in the top 2 every season, we either win conference, or in second, every year.......It will always be CUW LC and AU at the top.....and LC gets the addition to the top tier because of three past seasons not one

GC is improving and is a good team...MAC has fallen from a top team to a bottom team as BU has done also though BU is showing signs of improvement....but AU is the one constant being in the top two
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 20, 2007, 10:03:15 PM
AU is no longer "at the top".  The past two years there team has been average at best.  Sure they beat mac, eureka, ben... but who doesn't?  Prior to 05 i would agree that AU was a top program.  But it seems as though they are more "middle of the pack" at this point.  AU and GC are going opposite directions, AU down, GC up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 21, 2007, 01:14:12 AM
you see i beg to differ....You say middle of the pack yet they tied for 2nd last year with LC and GC, yet you say middle of the road,....I see AU getting better they always hit their stride in conference play...plus last year they only beat AU by 7, GC has improved but still needs to prove its worth, AU has never dropped below third in conference, and you say they're not a top tier team?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 21, 2007, 01:50:04 AM
I understand your argument.  And i cant dispute that they have not dropped below third.  however it just seems like the last couple of years they have not been a huge concern.  They are talented, but i view them more as a spoiler team.  The kind of team that you can easily underestimate and they can bite you in the a**.  Thats just my perspective, having been inside the locker room of an ibfc team the previous two years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 21, 2007, 07:37:28 AM
I'm right there with ya....I am only a couple years removed from IBFC play myself
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 21, 2007, 07:39:56 AM
Maddog:
   This saturdays game where your baby cheese heads play Greenville at Greenville will be one of the more important games of this early season,IMO.   
    You know I`m not an LC fan so I`m for a "you pick-um game" this saturday.  Although, a win by Greenville could really stoke their engine.
    How`s your boy doing?

   "undefeated Lions."   The smoke will clear soon enough!
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCC_alum62 on September 21, 2007, 10:34:05 AM
Quote from: bufan on September 20, 2007, 06:38:17 PM
NCC Alum

I actually was a freshemn in that game u speak of in 2002 where we had 2 d-tackles go down with arm injuries.  Very odd for sure.  And the spirit pack thing was just a basic example and i may very well be wrong i have no concrete proof.,  Just my educated guess.   And as i said before he was a very good assistant like you pointed out as well.  But perhaps the responsibilities of a head coach arent for everyone, b/c he is also doing a good job with the oline at chicago.

TruCountry, i disagree that GC is a team to beat I think it is very agreeable to say its on Lakeland or Conc Wis.  I wouldnt included Aurora lately, as in the last 2 seasons because of the signficant drop off.  I truly think its LC, Conc Wis at the top, GC and AU the next 2 followed by BU and Mac, then CUC and EC.  Im not saying this is how they will finish the conf. but just an average rating of the last 2-3 seasons.  But a real positive is about 5-6 years ago, GC was in the lower half, about 6 or 7 in conf.  They have made a very respectable climb.


LC over GC
BU over CUC
CUW over EC
AU over MC


by all means I think you are right.  Mitchell is a good coach but as far as runnning a college football program maybe he doesn't have all of the necessary skillsets.  When DeGeorge was the head coach at NCC we stayed in the smallest most uncomfortable dorms during football camp, there was no freshmen study session , the "spirit packs" were a T-Shirt (thats it), and the practice gear a joke.

What I was meaning before wasn't trying to cut you down, I was only with Mitchell for one year as a backup o-lineman my freshman year, I was saying that some coaches are just better at that extra stuff other than the weekly game plan, motivation, leadership.  I've seen coaches who are bad with money/spirit packs, etc.  I've seen crooked stuff happen as well.  Just from knowing Mitchell I would say he more than likely chose a poor supplier or something like that.  NCC used to be the same way, they brought in a sports clothing guy to sell us Sweatshirts/jackets/hats and the prices were high to be honest.

Its also about success, NCC is winning, so suppliers are calling Thorne to offer the program stuff at a discount.  We got shipments of gloves and Cleats for cheap when we had winnning seasons, now after thier first CCIW title they're sponsered by New Balance who is just entering the relm of football uniforms and stuff.  The jerseys are a bit plain, but they look good...the point is BU was not a winning football team (and still isn't right now) so suppliers are not going to cut any coach a break on costs, the rich get richer and the little guy always has to pay more.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on September 21, 2007, 11:14:55 AM
Tru- I'm not knocking GC. They are heading in the right direction. Respect and tradition are earned. By beating AU and the two close games with CUW and LC, I can guarentee earned them CUW and LC respect. And if/when they follow that up this year will add to their program. The next two weeks will prove alo t for them as the have LC at home this week and AU on the road next week. Good luck to all, and be safe.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 21, 2007, 02:17:58 PM
Gomer;

I agree with you that this weeks game between GC and LC will be important. Whoever wins will get their engine stoked. Going into this game Greenville has to be a favorite because it is at Greenville, Lakeland is 0-3 and they may have the best QB in the league. However, I would not count out Lakeland despite being 0-3. 

IMO, the conference has re-align a bit. CUW, LC, GC and AU are the top tier teams. CUC is getting there but has to prove by beating  some of the top tier teams. Benedictine is trying also but will take some time to get their. I think in the next two years both of those schools can be in the top tier of the new league.

I am glad that Greenville has made the leap because it makes the better teams better, if that makes sense. They will be the top team in their new league SLIAC. IMO, there is nothing better than ,each week ,two teams battling it out in close games and not blow outs. In the past there was only 1 or 2 close games each year in the league. The more good teams the better the weekly games. This gives us great football to watch.

Good Luck to everyones team this week. The beginning of the end of the IBFC.

Who's going to what games?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 22, 2007, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: TruCountry95 on September 19, 2007, 03:41:42 PM

Aurora vs MAC: AU wins 28-14


Wow Tru you were way off   AU 47  -   Mac 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SCARED KITTY on September 22, 2007, 05:13:24 PM
Lakeland wins 36-21
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 22, 2007, 07:09:29 PM
Concordia defeats Benedictine 21-10.

Confidence Baseman.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 22, 2007, 09:36:28 PM
Yeah Baseman, CONFIDENCE!!!! I think there was one person on this board that had the Cougs winning in a close margin. I took a leave from the board because I felt I was giving the Cougs bad luck but I probably won't post again for awhile....COUGS WIN!!!! 1-0 in conference...Eureka next...I will continue to read.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Falcon77 on September 22, 2007, 10:05:29 PM
CUW 70 Eureka 0. Great game to be at, if your a Falcon. Eureka never had a chance. Not a very good Football team.
CUW played great. I can't wait to see what the the rest of the conference has to offer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 23, 2007, 07:56:17 AM
   BU-10    Con U, C-21. I know the Believers are a happy bunch.
   LC-36     GC-21.     Looks like LC still has it. 
   Eureka-0   Con,W- 70.  I give Eureka much credit. They showed up, took their lumps and will move on.
   AU-47  Mac-0.    The arguement has been made by some that Mac is mostly a freshmen team. Young to say the least. It`s not a stretch for Mac to go 0-10 this season, IMO.
   As games went this past saturday only LC  had any sort of challenge.
   AU and CU-W were way to strong for their foes. 
   BU and CU-C, the out come might have surprised some.  A good game
   none the less. 
   CU-C should get at least 2 more wins. BU as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 23, 2007, 08:15:23 AM
Old 40:
    If past conference history holds Greenville is almost out of the running.
    Usually (1) loss gets you at best second place or tied.
   The exception to that was in 2004 when 3 teams tied for 1st.
    That`a always been a problem in the IBFC, little or no parity. I really though GC was going to do it this year as the last couple of years they`vew been showing real signs of becoming a serious contender.
   I know it`s early in conference play and a lot can still happen but I`ll still go with the.........." one and done "  theory.  Just my opinion.   :)
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on September 23, 2007, 09:58:45 AM
The Lakeland-Greenville game was pretty lopsided. Lakeland's D did a great job of containing Greenville's QB. He did a few things here and there but Lakeland never let him get a big play. Lakeland's o line was awesome and the Muskies finally got their running game going and a freshman running back had a nice day. Wilk and his receivers were clicking and he threw for 4 tds (the last one was a deflection in the end zone, but it still counts) and he rushed for their other score. If greenville is as good as advertised (the coaches picked them to finish second in the league, and d3football picked them to win it), then the team to beat is Lakeland.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 23, 2007, 01:50:59 PM
Benedictine loses to Concordia Chicago 21-10.

So who is going to side with Jon Cooper now? He's lost to the worst team in the IBC (with the exception of Eureka). It doesn't get much worse than this. "Oh he's still building his team." Not an excuse. He's in year 3.

"Oh but NCC and Elmhurst are the #1 and #2 teams in the nation" excuse doesn't work anymore. They lost by 2 scores to a TERRIBLE team. They are also terrible.

What does Jon Cooper do all week? He does not gameplan. What does Jon Cooper do all offseason? He does not recruit good players. He's pathetic. He should be fired, as I've said all along.

If Murray and Mitchell lost their jobs for poor performance, Cooper should've been fired after yesterday's game.

Cooper came into Benedictine with an attitude. He knocked Benedictine's past teams by saying this is the "new" Benedictine" and that the "old" Benedictine had to go, the "old" Benedictine was bad, blah blah blah. Guess what? The old Benedictine was a lot better than when he came. If you're going to come into a school acting like some big shot who is going to change things, then change them...for the better, not for the worse. I'm just tired of people siding with Cooper when he has done noting but fire good coaches to bring in "his" guys, lose games, and recruit a bunch of scrubs. It's time for him to be fired or retire on his own.

Jon Cooper is proving why Aurora never hired him as a head coach. There's a reason he was an assistant for almost 20 years. It's showing right now.

Benedictine will go 1-9, maybe 2-8. That is not progress.

Benedictine administration, if you're reading this, start accepting applications, because this ship is sinking.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 23, 2007, 01:58:37 PM
Sounds like you are grinding that ax pretty hard. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 23, 2007, 02:24:25 PM
Areyou kidding- seems like either a disgruntled father, player, a former coach, perhaps somebody who was passed over for the Benedictine job.
I don't look at the Benedictine/CUC game as a "Whoa the Eagles lost" rather "Hey Concordia's program is starting to put together some wins." Give Coach Pries and the Cougars some credit.  It was not that long ago CUC was 1-9, 2-7 etc. and with the new regime they have started to put together more wins.  They may not be high-octane teams, but you have to start somewhere.

I still think it is too early to point the finger at Jon Cooper and cry for a new coach.
At Elmhurst, Tom Journell went 4-6 in his first year.  Did we call for his axe? No of course not.  He has put together 6-4 (could easily have been 7-3) campaigns and slowly the EC program is getting better.

Again, it's not 100% coaching, the players have to execute on the field and make plays also.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 23, 2007, 02:47:25 PM
Gomer;

Good assesment of the IBFC.

I was at the GC-LC game. GC has some athletes and played hard. I think their non-conference schedule may have hurt them. The QB is very good if you cannot contain him. LC had too much quickness on defense for them. GC did not see that against Blackburn and Taylor. I saw GC against AU last year and they lost some great athletes (LB). They were not able to replace them with the same quality and thats not a nock on their replacements. I think GC will do very well in conference play, IMO top 3. GC defensive front seven is athletic and pretty good.

IMO, CUW will be hard to beat. I saw their scrimmage against Carthage and their drop off in talent was not much, except at RB. WR and LB. For anyone in the league who wants to be the champ you have to beat the champ.

If Lakeland can get their 4 injured starters back, they did not play against Greenville, it will certainly help them in the next 6 games. There will be no give me's. No one likes the fish and everyone wants to stick it to them. It will be very interesting.

I would watch out for AU also, their defense is good and they can play with anyone. CUC is building and they can be dangerous if you overlook them and count them as a win, they will get you. Looks like their game with Benedictine was a good one for the Cougars. I did not see any stats so I have no idea of how the game went.

Gomer, I await your picks for next week. I hope your team did well.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 23, 2007, 04:43:06 PM
Are You Kidding Me:

Please... do everyone a favor and just shut up.

Sincerely,
Fartcus Smellwood
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 23, 2007, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 23, 2007, 01:50:59 PM
Benedictine loses to Concordia Chicago 21-10.

So who is going to side with Jon Cooper now? He's lost to the worst team in the IBC (with the exception of Eureka). It doesn't get much worse than this. "Oh he's still building his team." Not an excuse. He's in year 3.

"Oh but NCC and Elmhurst are the #1 and #2 teams in the nation" excuse doesn't work anymore. They lost by 2 scores to a TERRIBLE team. They are also terrible.

What does Jon Cooper do all week? He does not gameplan. What does Jon Cooper do all offseason? He does not recruit good players. He's pathetic. He should be fired, as I've said all along.

If Murray and Mitchell lost their jobs for poor performance, Cooper should've been fired after yesterday's game.

Cooper came into Benedictine with an attitude. He knocked Benedictine's past teams by saying this is the "new" Benedictine" and that the "old" Benedictine had to go, the "old" Benedictine was bad, blah blah blah. Guess what? The old Benedictine was a lot better than when he came. If you're going to come into a school acting like some big shot who is going to change things, then change them...for the better, not for the worse. I'm just tired of people siding with Cooper when he has done noting but fire good coaches to bring in "his" guys, lose games, and recruit a bunch of scrubs. It's time for him to be fired or retire on his own.

Jon Cooper is proving why Aurora never hired him as a head coach. There's a reason he was an assistant for almost 20 years. It's showing right now.

Benedictine will go 1-9, maybe 2-8. That is not progress.

Benedictine administration, if you're reading this, start accepting applications, because this ship is sinking.

This guy is so pathetic it's hilarious!

Boo hoo, I feel slighted by Jon Cooper because I wasn't taken seriously when I was at Benedictine so I have an axe to grind. My self-esteem is so low, and the PBR I use to drink myself to sleep every night does nothing to help so I think I'll post on this message board. Maybe...just maybe someone out there will listen to me and hate Jon Cooper as much as I do (sniffle, sniffle).  Oh the pain, the agony! Whoa is me!

Dude, seriously you're about as pathetic as they come. You're not going to find anyone here to validate your personal beefs with Jon Cooper. Yeah, Benedictine may look bad right now but they also have more kids out for the team than they have in any recent time. I know you think the team you were affiliated with (all 16 of you) were so much better but that's just the PBR talkin. The team is young, they have a freshman quarterback who was thrust into the role in the last minute but they're going to come around. They're probably not going to win the conference but so what, the program is still headed in the right direction.

But hey I'm not trying to tell you what to do. Keep crying into your beer and posting your anti-Cooper diatribes on the board, they're hilarious. The best part is picturing you sitting at the computer in your underwear, your gut hanging onto the keyboard which is soaked with PBR and tears.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 23, 2007, 05:28:05 PM
Fartcus;

Good post and Great answer. Congrats to your Cougars. Good Job.


TBaggins;

Good post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 23, 2007, 05:48:32 PM
By the way AYKM, everyone knows you've been making these same posts on the board for 3 years now under various monikers (Fat Pongo). So what's even more pathetic is the fact that your time spent here in 3 years surpasses the time you've spent doing any other activity during the same period. Maybe you need to try harder to get laid? I hear nudie magazines don't really love you back.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 23, 2007, 07:02:36 PM
AYK,
You really are an idiot.....Have you ever played for Cooper?  Do you sit in on his meetings? Probably not.....I know Cooper plans as hard as any coach out there you obviously don't know or don't care, some teams just need a lil work and CUC is getting better BU is just not as good as the new CUC....BU is a team that needs work yes.....You need to let it go.....AYK let it go...Pat can you just dump this guy already?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 23, 2007, 07:46:05 PM
Fatal- i must say AU impressed me this week.  I didnt see the game, but i didnt expect them to completely dominate as well as they did.  I may stand corrected on them for this season.  Did anyone else see the CUW game?  Obviously they dominated, but i was a little concerned about their interior run game.  they were getting all the yards, and long runs, but it seemed as though that was only because they were superior athletes, not because of good execution or play calling.  I think the only weak spot for CUW is there secondary, and even that is improving with experience.  With CUC and BU looking better this year, it might be possible for someone to take conference with 1 loss, who knows, theres at least a tiny bit more talent floating around now. (except for in euereka and jacksonville)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 23, 2007, 07:50:27 PM
AYK-

Yeah man, the worst team in the IBC besides Eureka?  Give me a break....ARE YOU KIDDING ME...... ;D, I had to put that in there come on.

Did you forget MAC is still in the conference?  I am thinking CUC is going to be able to handle MAC this year.  I really want to know your affiliation is with BU, or lack there of which may shed some light on why you are so against coach Cooper and BU.

And heck, just a complete jackass for that matter.

OHHHH, congrats to CUC, angry I didn't make it to the game.  And Maurice Tisdale looks like he is stepping up as the teams #1 receiver this year.  I mean at 6'5 gotta be able to use him in the red zone.  Plus Marotta seemed to look pretty good as well.

CUC will be fired up for this next week, no slanted field is going to stop them......or Billy bob in the endzone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 24, 2007, 07:16:43 AM
Maddog:
     I know your out there.   I`ll bet your still doing the Lakeland war dance
      and finishing up that old bottle of Boones Farm in celebration  of the
       Little Cheese Heads win over GC. 
     Breaks over!  get back to work.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 24, 2007, 02:17:38 PM
 Believers.
    Check out the "STANDINGS"  section on D-3.  Look who is atop the IBC
    conference.....................CON U _ C.   Whoa!!  When`s the last time that happened?
    The Cougars can conceivably stay in that position for 2 more weeks as they play Eureka and  MacMurray.  If they can`t beat those two then they don`t deserve to be in that lofty position. ;)  Enjoy the ride.
     After that it`s all down hill!  I`ll let it go at that as not to ruin the mood.
     Fartcus: As the #1 Believer in Cougar land, you get to wear the "we`re
     #1  " tee shirt for a couple more weeks.   ;)
     ** Least someone bring it up, it`s a 4 way tie for the top conference
          spot. 
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 24, 2007, 02:35:14 PM
Gomer:
I am not down with the printed Walmart Tees so I won't be wearing the "we're #1" t-shirt for you.
CUC will take nothing for granted and don't count them out after they destroy Eureka and Mac...don't forget they had one of the closer games to CUW last year..."the champs" and what have they proven so far...beating Eureka 70-0. I am sure any team in the conference will be able to put up an extreme amount of points on that "football" team. I have realized that a team just can't get complemented on this board without making some sort of jokes. The IBFC has no powerhouse team this year and for you to count any team out right now (other than Eureka and MAC) is ridiculous...I guess only time will tell. As for me, I am done for now...type away keyboard warriors.

*listening to Smashmouth- Believer* ;D

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 24, 2007, 02:40:36 PM
Fartcus:
   Spoken like a true....................Believer.   :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 24, 2007, 08:26:51 PM
You are the only one who really keeps me going on this board Gomer...just don't drop me in the same category as Maddog. Who drinks Boones Farm anyways? I've got one word for that crap but I don't find it appropriate to type.

Yes, I am a CUC believer and they are giving me a reason to believe.

I just have faith in the Cougars.


GO COUGARS!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 24, 2007, 08:36:01 PM
Gomer-

Yeah, you can't count CUC out of ANY game from here on out.  Obviously they are going to demolish Eureka then hopefully MAC. 

But they get CUW on homecoming and I guarantee CUW will be taking them lightly, even after last years close 11 point win.

I believe CUC will beat AT LEAST one of the "top" teams in conference this year, either CUW, Aurora, Lakeland or Greenville.....mark it down, tell your friends.

BOOYA!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 24, 2007, 09:04:45 PM
Baseman201;

According to Fartcus, in one of his earlier post, he answered the question that CUC will knock off one of the top teams. He guarenateed CUC would beat Lakeland by 14. So maybe they will add another one.


Fartcus
Do you know what happen to Weeks, I noticed in the stats he did not play. Last year he was pretty good. Is he hurt?  Good Luck this week end.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 24, 2007, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 24, 2007, 08:36:01 PM
Gomer-

Yeah, you can't count CUC out of ANY game from here on out.  Obviously they are going to demolish Eureka then hopefully MAC. 

But they get CUW on homecoming and I guarantee CUW will be taking them lightly, even after last years close 11 point win.

I believe CUC will beat AT LEAST one of the "top" teams in conference this year, either CUW, Aurora, Lakeland or Greenville.....mark it down, tell your friends.

BOOYA!!!!

Thats really a stretch.....I think they won't be last but, to compete at the top?  Not just yet, but they are improving.....I just don't think they will be at the top this year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 24, 2007, 09:47:05 PM
Quote from: TBaggins on September 23, 2007, 05:19:03 PM

This guy is so pathetic it's hilarious!

Boo hoo, I feel slighted by Jon Cooper because I wasn't taken seriously when I was at Benedictine so I have an axe to grind. My self-esteem is so low, and the PBR I use to drink myself to sleep every night does nothing to help so I think I'll post on this message board. Maybe...just maybe someone out there will listen to me and hate Jon Cooper as much as I do (sniffle, sniffle).  Oh the pain, the agony! Whoa is me!

Dude, seriously you're about as pathetic as they come. You're not going to find anyone here to validate your personal beefs with Jon Cooper. Yeah, Benedictine may look bad right now but they also have more kids out for the team than they have in any recent time. I know you think the team you were affiliated with (all 16 of you) were so much better but that's just the PBR talkin. The team is young, they have a freshman quarterback who was thrust into the role in the last minute but they're going to come around. They're probably not going to win the conference but so what, the program is still headed in the right direction.

But hey I'm not trying to tell you what to do. Keep crying into your beer and posting your anti-Cooper diatribes on the board, they're hilarious. The best part is picturing you sitting at the computer in your underwear, your gut hanging onto the keyboard which is soaked with PBR and tears.


I'm afraid you are mistaken, but I have no affiliation with Benedictine. Do I know some former players and former coaches? Yep. Do I also know former players and coaches from just about about every team in the conference? Yep.

But, using a defense mechanism of projecting your feelings/experiences of the"16"  person teams Benedictine had is pretty sad.  It's obvious you were part of those teams, and even more, it would be very easy to figure out who you are based on that alone. It's just too bad that you sat on the worst Benedictine team in the school's history. I mean, I guess it's good in a way that you were not part of the school's black mark in history...but then again, what does it say about you if you weren't even good enough to start on it? I'll make a couple of phone calls, as it wouldn't be too hard to figure out who you are. Like you said, there were only 16 players on that team, right? Now that we've identified that you are a former Benedictine player, let's move on.

Stop making excuses for Cooper. This will be his 3rd losing season. That's the most consecutive losing seasons for a BU coach in a very long time.  But blame it on the QB situation, blame it on the young guys, blame it on everything you possibly can blame it on...except who is really to blame: the head coach. Either he's not recruiting well or he's not coaching well. It's one or the other (or both). And please don't mention the numbers he has brought in. If they can't perform, they are numbers and nothing more.



Quote from: TBaggins on September 23, 2007, 05:48:32 PM
By the way AYKM, everyone knows you've been making these same posts on the board for 3 years now under various monikers (Fat Pongo). So what's even more pathetic is the fact that your time spent here in 3 years surpasses the time you've spent doing any other activity during the same period. Maybe you need to try harder to get laid? I hear nudie magazines don't really love you back.

Again, I'm afraid you are mistaken. I'm guessing a poster has a similar opinion of me, and yet because of it I am associated with him? That's great logic. You must be a Benedictine alum.

Your closing statement regarding magazines and getting laid further proves your idiocy. Are you out of eligibility? If not, I heard Benedictine needs some more "numbers," something perfect for a scrub like yourself.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 24, 2007, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: 79jaybird on September 23, 2007, 02:24:25 PM
Areyou kidding- seems like either a disgruntled father, player, a former coach, perhaps somebody who was passed over for the Benedictine job.
I don't look at the Benedictine/CUC game as a "Whoa the Eagles lost" rather "Hey Concordia's program is starting to put together some wins." Give Coach Pries and the Cougars some credit.  It was not that long ago CUC was 1-9, 2-7 etc. and with the new regime they have started to put together more wins.  They may not be high-octane teams, but you have to start somewhere.

I still think it is too early to point the finger at Jon Cooper and cry for a new coach.
At Elmhurst, Tom Journell went 4-6 in his first year.  Did we call for his axe? No of course not.  He has put together 6-4 (could easily have been 7-3) campaigns and slowly the EC program is getting better.

Again, it's not 100% coaching, the players have to execute on the field and make plays also.

None of the above, but let's continue.

Hey, kudos to CURF. I'm glad they have finally found the right coach for their program. They've gone through some rough stretches, but finally they are making a name for themselves in the conference.

But, you can only give so much praise to teams. At one point, you have to identify the bad teams. CURF may be "better" than they used to be, but they aren't good yet. They are still a bottom tier team. Benedictine lost to them, so that makes them worse.

And there's a big difference between Journell and Cooper, so don't put them in the same category. Going 6-4 at Elmhurst college is a bit more impressive than going from 3-7 to 4-6 in a toilet conference. Plus, in your third year, starting out 1-3 with basically no possible way to win more than 3 games all year. I call that the opposite of progress.

If you can't go .500 by your 3rd year in the IBC, it's time to find a new job, whether you do it on your own or it's decided for you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 24, 2007, 10:29:45 PM
Old 40-

Actually Fartcus never said that CUC would beat Lakeland by 14, that was 7400 who was banned from the forums, which is why none of us have heard from him lately.

Fatal-

I guess what I was getting at was that CUC would surprise one of the 4 top teams in the conference, I didn't really mean they would finish 1st or anything like that......but you never know right..... ;D

And I am sorry to those of you who had the first 3 picks in fantasy football this year.  I assume you either have Tomlinson, Johnson or Jackson.  And for that I am sorry.

Aw well, just trying to take up some time.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 24, 2007, 11:25:04 PM
I see baseman.....I see

AYK, if you have no affiliation with BU and honestly you have no idea, why do you care...The way I see it you're getting second hand or even thrid hand info which is sketchy....Your arguements are week, bring something to the table or shut up
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 25, 2007, 12:42:06 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on September 24, 2007, 11:25:04 PM
AYK, if you have no affiliation with BU and honestly you have no idea, why do you care...The way I see it you're getting second hand or even thrid hand info which is sketchy....Your arguements are week, bring something to the table or shut up

Please. You know my statements regarding Cooper are factual.

If "bring something to the table or shut up" is all you have, then I'm afraid you should leave.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 25, 2007, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 25, 2007, 12:42:06 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on September 24, 2007, 11:25:04 PM
AYK, if you have no affiliation with BU and honestly you have no idea, why do you care...The way I see it you're getting second hand or even thrid hand info which is sketchy....Your arguements are week, bring something to the table or shut up

Please. You know my statements regarding Cooper are factual.

If "bring something to the table or shut up" is all you have, then I'm afraid you should leave.

I know MY statements are factual.....I played in this conference and watch it on a weekly basis.....You have said you don't look at or more or less care about IBFC football, you have no factual basis and you spout your opinion and say its fact, You know I'm right and I'm inclined to agree that this is most likely Fat Pongo.....Welcome back
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 25, 2007, 04:14:53 AM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 24, 2007, 09:47:05 PM

I'm guessing a poster has a similar opinion of me



Yes Pongo, indeed there are many posters that have a similar opinion of you...the opinion that you are a pathetic douchebag who loves attention on message boards because he can't get through normal human contact.

And further, I think I finally get it. You have an "unnatural" love for Jon Cooper that you just can't seem reconcile. You try to supress that love as much as you can, and hide it by making these posting, but you still can't shake it. It keeps you up at night. It's ok Pongo, you can come out of the closet, nobody will make fun of you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 25, 2007, 11:23:52 AM
I don't think anyone should be "guaranteeing" wins this early on; or down the road for that matter.  Remember, thats why you play the game.  I'm tired of everyone "guarnteeing" things in football whether it be the NFL, College, whatever.  There are no guarantees, that's why the game is so beautiful.  Even if it is EC.  I was on a team that handled pretty much everyone in the conference and went to EC's slanted field and won 7-6  when no one would have thought that was possible. 


As a great coach of mine said "Take them lightly after you beat them".  Yeah, there are teams you should stomp every year; but don't talk about it until after you do it.  Thats what winning programs do.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 25, 2007, 11:30:52 AM
Quote from: falcsfb on September 25, 2007, 11:23:52 AM
I don't think anyone should be "guaranteeing" wins this early on; or down the road for that matter.  Remember, thats why you play the game.  I'm tired of everyone "guarnteeing" things in football whether it be the NFL, College, whatever.  There are no guarantees, that's why the game is so beautiful.  Even if it is EC.  I was on a team that handled pretty much everyone in the conference and went to EC's slanted field and won 7-6  when no one would have thought that was possible. 


As a great coach of mine said "Take them lightly after you beat them".  Yeah, there are teams you should stomp every year; but don't talk about it until after you do it.  Thats what winning programs do.

Very good post and its the truth. Baseman...I see that you are becoming a believer again? Gaining that confidence back into our system for conference play? I like seeing it...and he is right, I never said I guarantee CUC beats Lakeland by 14 but I am sure you meant no harm by it Old 40. Its all good. :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on September 25, 2007, 11:49:09 AM
Wow, some tension on here.  I do not know who AYKM is but again, having played under all 3 coaches I would say cooper prepares very hard.  If you have looked at the numbers the defense isnt bad, they are on the field alot, resulting in the lopsided stats.  Not saying it shouldnt be better, but the offesne is abysmal.  Maybe action in that area is required, not necessarily the head coach.  FYI, there are only 6 players that played for Murray, Mitchell, and Cooper.  So AYKM is not one of them.

However, a couple years ago, BU did beat CUC with only like 34 players dressed.  That is not to rub anything in but we always said to ourselves as players, what if we had 100 guys on the team, we would be pretty decent.  Well i think we saw the result of that last saturday.  Big numbers does not necessarily translate into wins.

It does appear CUC will go 3-0 t start conference.  They looked pretty good and the QB weeks did not even play due to injury.  I think they can beat EC and mac which would be substancial progress.  They do look different then past CUC team i will admit.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on September 25, 2007, 03:14:39 PM
Tell me this is not true!  I heard mac does not have an trainer, and coaches are taping ankles.  You guys deserve better treatment than that.  Good luck with the rest of your season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 25, 2007, 04:29:02 PM
Quote from: catch22 on September 25, 2007, 03:14:39 PM
Tell me this is not true!  I heard mac does not have an trainer, and coaches are taping ankles.  You guys deserve better treatment than that.  Good luck with the rest of your season.

I heard this as well Catch 22, pretty sad.... 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 25, 2007, 06:42:11 PM
Fartcus-

Actually I always had faith, I just picked BU over CUC to get them going a little bit, did it work?  I was actually thinking about picking Eureka to win this week and try to accomplish the same thing.  But I figured you would be on to me if I did that.

Falc-

Yeah, well said I agree as well, no one knows what the slanted field has in store for opposing teams.  Some say trailer park Billy Bobs grandfather is buried underneath the field and makes a small hump toward one of the endzones........but it's just a legend of course.........
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on September 25, 2007, 07:12:07 PM
AYKM,

It appears you know it all and thus I would like to know who are your top candidates to replace Jon Cooper and how you would turn the program around.

But before we get to read another disertation, please keep in mind the following:

When Jeff Hand arrived at BU in 98 and became the HC for the 99 and 00 seasons, BU had not posted back to back winning seasons since 88 and 89.  When Hand put the program in a tough situation by leaving in the summer of 01, BU out of necessity turned to Murray and his dismal track record at Dubuque.  Murray left the program after the 02 season to sell supplements and BU turned to Mitchell and his poor track records at St Joseph HS (13-23) and NC (8-12 as an asst & RECRUITING COORDINATOR).  Mitchell was fired following the 04 season when it was obvious the program had taken another step back with their record, talent and numbers.

Since such time, BU hired Jon Cooper based on his track record as a DC at AU and built an athletic facility, which Augie, Wheaton, Elmhurst, IWU, Carthage, CUW, Chicago, North Park, CUC, etc., has or built as well.  Cooper made progress in his first two seasons despite truly having only on recruiting class (his sophomores).  I can understand your frustation with the 07 season (2 blowouts and a loss to CUC).  I don't understand how anyone can expect to have a successful year record wise when you turn to young players to make-up most of your team.

The only change I would make would be at the OC position.  Like BUs previous HCs, how can you expect a coach with a dismal track record as a HC/Coordinator to lead a group of young players and help BU take the next step.  I am not asking BUs offense to score 50 pts a game, but they do need to sustain drives rather than going 3 and out.  3 and outs only lead to short fields for the opposition and puts your defense on the field for a majority of the game.  The OC needs to come up with a game plan to utilize the talent they have to put together a ball control offense, which will give them the opportunity to sustain drives, score points, win the battle of field position and keep the defense of the field and give them a chance to be successful. 

I believe the last two years, BU has done such with the offense, which allowed them to make progress.  I would give Cooper 2 more years to allow his Freshmen and Sophomores to become Juniors and Seniors before making a change if they can't make further progress.  BU without the tradition obviously, is in a similar situation as its D1 brother in South Bend:  multiple coaches with average or poor track records in multiple years leads to a lack of upper classman, which equates to poor records.  Making a change now only sets both programs back further.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 25, 2007, 07:43:32 PM
WDYK:

As an outsider, please allow me to contribute this general comment.  I think your opinions on progress in programs is right on.  That constant change "track record" hindered Olivet College (MI) for years until the last decade.  Although they've had a difficult time in the "W" column over their almost 120 year history of football, they have made great progress in the last decade or so.  There was a time for awhile where they were contantly changing coaches every 2-5 years and when that happens, as you say, it is difficult to build the program.  Bringing in 50+ kids a year only to lose a big majority of them after two years when a head coach left (excluding the "natural attrition" that would occur anyway in any recruiting class of student-athletes) just kept setting the program backwards, or "going nowhere".  So at least they have improved the program tremendously (with also the help of improving the college itself in many ways) and have "stopped the bleeding" so to speak, I think? ;D ??? ;)  Just thought I'd contribute some general comments on the general discussion.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on September 25, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
Am i the only one who is tired of reading about the BU coaching situation, and all of the stupid name calling involved in the argument?  Honestly, if your going to argue about it, can you at least use facts, or somehow try to support your arguments?  Its getting old.

(this is not intended to every poster on the situation, but is also not only aimed at AYK)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PM
Fartcus and Baseman;

I just could not remember who made the guarantee. Sorry for getting the name wrong. 7400 was the guilty party. Good Luck to your Cougars. They will beat Eureka but be surprised that Eureka will move the ball some between the 20's. Last week they had more time of possesion than CUW.


cudub;

I am with you. I refuse to respond to that poster. Let's discuss football and the IBFC in a positive way, somtimes kidding each other with no disrespect. I think it's best that some posters talk to themselves.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PM
Let's discuss football and the IBFC in a positive way, somtimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

That should be the motto.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Are you Kidding on September 25, 2007, 09:29:33 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on September 25, 2007, 12:56:37 AM
I know MY statements are factual.....I played in this conference and watch it on a weekly basis.....You have said you don't look at or more or less care about IBFC football, you have no factual basis and you spout your opinion and say its fact, You know I'm right and I'm inclined to agree that this is most likely Fat Pongo.....Welcome back

Just because I do not follow the conference on a weekly basis as you do does not mean I am not aware of the coaching situation at Benedictine, and how it has been for the past two years.

I've posted facts. If you can't handle them, then I'm sorry. Cooper should be gone.

Quote from: TBaggins on September 25, 2007, 04:14:53 AM

Yes Pongo, indeed there are many posters that have a similar opinion of you...the opinion that you are a pathetic douchebag who loves attention on message boards because he can't get through normal human contact.

And further, I think I finally get it. You have an "unnatural" love for Jon Cooper that you just can't seem reconcile. You try to supress that love as much as you can, and hide it by making these posting, but you still can't shake it. It keeps you up at night. It's ok Pongo, you can come out of the closet, nobody will make fun of you.

Your responses are pathetic. I really have no response to them. Your attempt at humor is beyond sad. Also, it leads me to believe that you are a homosexual when you have to use the "come out of the closet" line. Are we displacing again?  Cry?

Quote from: bufan on September 25, 2007, 11:49:09 AM
Wow, some tension on here.  I do not know who AYKM is but again, having played under all 3 coaches I would say cooper prepares very hard.  If you have looked at the numbers the defense isnt bad, they are on the field alot, resulting in the lopsided stats.  Not saying it shouldnt be better, but the offesne is abysmal.  Maybe action in that area is required, not necessarily the head coach.  FYI, there are only 6 players that played for Murray, Mitchell, and Cooper.  So AYKM is not one of them.

However, a couple years ago, BU did beat CUC with only like 34 players dressed.  That is not to rub anything in but we always said to ourselves as players, what if we had 100 guys on the team, we would be pretty decent.  Well i think we saw the result of that last saturday.  Big numbers does not necessarily translate into wins.

It does appear CUC will go 3-0 t start conference.  They looked pretty good and the QB weeks did not even play due to injury.  I think they can beat EC and mac which would be substancial progress.  They do look different then past CUC team i will admit.



Looking at the stats, the defense isn't bad?

30 ppg
Over 1200 yards.

That's bad, especially considering NCC and Elmhurst both let up on BU and didn't have all of their starters in toward the end of the game. Add the fact that one of the games was against North Park, and yes, the defense is bad.

Also, what action is required would you say? You say the head coach should not be fired, then what should happen?

"They look different than past Curf teams." Come on. How many more excuses can you give the team? It's come to the point where you guys are trying to hard to cover Cooper's ass that you're failing to realize one thing: The IBC is terrible. How much credit can possibly be given to other teams?  

Quote from: WhatDoIKnow on September 25, 2007, 07:12:07 PM
AYKM,

It appears you know it all and thus I would like to know who are your top candidates to replace Jon Cooper and how you would turn the program around.

But before we get to read another disertation, please keep in mind the following:

When Jeff Hand arrived at BU in 98 and became the HC for the 99 and 00 seasons, BU had not posted back to back winning seasons since 88 and 89.  When Hand put the program in a tough situation by leaving in the summer of 01, BU out of necessity turned to Murray and his dismal track record at Dubuque.  Murray left the program after the 02 season to sell supplements and BU turned to Mitchell and his poor track records at St Joseph HS (13-23) and NC (8-12 as an asst & RECRUITING COORDINATOR).  Mitchell was fired following the 04 season when it was obvious the program had taken another step back with their record, talent and numbers.

Since such time, BU hired Jon Cooper based on his track record as a DC at AU and built an athletic facility, which Augie, Wheaton, Elmhurst, IWU, Carthage, CUW, Chicago, North Park, CUC, etc., has or built as well.  Cooper made progress in his first two seasons despite truly having only on recruiting class (his sophomores).  I can understand your frustation with the 07 season (2 blowouts and a loss to CUC).  I don't understand how anyone can expect to have a successful year record wise when you turn to young players to make-up most of your team.

The only change I would make would be at the OC position.  Like BUs previous HCs, how can you expect a coach with a dismal track record as a HC/Coordinator to lead a group of young players and help BU take the next step.  I am not asking BUs offense to score 50 pts a game, but they do need to sustain drives rather than going 3 and out.  3 and outs only lead to short fields for the opposition and puts your defense on the field for a majority of the game.  The OC needs to come up with a game plan to utilize the talent they have to put together a ball control offense, which will give them the opportunity to sustain drives, score points, win the battle of field position and keep the defense of the field and give them a chance to be successful.  

I believe the last two years, BU has done such with the offense, which allowed them to make progress.  I would give Cooper 2 more years to allow his Freshmen and Sophomores to become Juniors and Seniors before making a change if they can't make further progress.  BU without the tradition obviously, is in a similar situation as its D1 brother in South Bend:  multiple coaches with average or poor track records in multiple years leads to a lack of upper classman, which equates to poor records.  Making a change now only sets both programs back further.



Who are my top candidates? I don't know. My job isn't to hire coaches. But at this point in time, why not give Swanson the reigns? See how it goes. He hasn't coached football in a while, but he's a great football mind. He was an All-American DB and coached at Benedictine for a good amount of time. He couldn't do a worse job than Cooper. He can gut the football staff just as Cooper did when he came in three years ago. Swanson has a ton of connections and could assemble a staff in no time. I could probably tell you right now who he would hire as his O and D coordinators and at least two position coaches. And don't say Swanson wouldn't do it, if Benedictine threw some money at him, he would do it.

Also, don't blame this on Hand. That was what? 6? 7 years ago?

Yes, Murray was hired out of desperation. But, don't mix up the order on Murray's departure to sell supplements. Murray was fired, then he went to sell Supplements. He did not leave on his own. Former AD Lynn Olynski gave him the boot.

The Mitchell hire was out of desperation, but mostly laziness. Benedictine higher ups were not going to do the coach searching process. They went internally because they had "better" things to do.

BU hired Cooper out of desperation because they fired Mitchell...and needed a coach quick. When Aurora decided Cooper was not good enough to be the head coach of their program (after devoting almost 20 years to them), Benedictine figured why not?

Don't give me the "they hired him based on his track record" line. Murray went 63-30 as the D-Coordinator of IWU in a top tier conference, which is far more impressive than anything Cooper has accomplished.

So you're going to pin this on the OC? Guess who hired him? Cooper did. Remember, Cooper gutted the staff to bring in his guys? If Cooper can't take the fall, at what point does he take the blame for poor performance? If his coaches are doing a bad job, then he is doing a bad job of leading. If his players are doing a bad job, then he is doing a bad job of coaching OR recruiting (or both). At some point, Cooper needs to have responsibility.

I can't listen to anymore excuses being made for Cooper.

He made his own coaching staff. He has one of the best Division III football stadiums in the nation (which does half of the recruiting on it's own). He is in arguably the worst conference in DIII football. You can be a pathetic team in this conference and still finish 5th, and even 4th sometimes.

What more do you want as a coach?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 25, 2007, 10:21:22 PM
AYK,

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


CUC Football Rules!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 25, 2007, 10:40:54 PM
All he does is spout his opinion about what everyone else said, at no point does he offer facts, I played for Coop so I know how it was, He has no idea.......Get your story straight Pongo, and go away......CougsWillWin, you're exactly right
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 25, 2007, 10:48:34 PM
I don't think any of this displacement of Sexual Orientation cracks back and forth has any place on a football board. 

Also, this whole argument is a waste of board space.  I think Are You Kidding has had enough chances already .  Hopefully at some point he just leaves or gets axed from the board.

Enough is enough. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on September 25, 2007, 11:13:24 PM
Quote from: catch22 on September 25, 2007, 03:14:39 PM
Tell me this is not true!  I heard mac does not have an trainer, and coaches are taping ankles.  You guys deserve better treatment than that.  Good luck with the rest of your season.
'
no we dont have a full time trainer, but the student trainers are the ones taping the ankles, along with some coaches.  there is a trainer that comes from the passavant rehab center pretty much every night after practice.  thats really about it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fartcus Smellwood on September 25, 2007, 11:32:30 PM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on September 25, 2007, 10:21:22 PM
AYK,

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


CUC Football Rules!!!


AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Great minds think alike because I was thinking about posting the Billy Madison quote up as well...just didn't know which idiotic post to mark it after. Good choice Cougswillwin. And yes....

CUC Football does rule

coming from another believer ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 11:58:42 PM
Quote from: pg04 on September 25, 2007, 10:48:34 PM
I don't think any of this displacement of Sexual Orientation cracks back and forth has any place on a football board. 

Actually, that's usually a bannable offense. Or at least a suspendable one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 26, 2007, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 25, 2007, 09:29:33 PM

Your responses are pathetic. I really have no response to them. Your attempt at humor is beyond sad. Also, it leads me to believe that you are a homosexual when you have to use the "come out of the closet" line. Are we displacing again?  Cry?


I believe you mean "projection"

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 27, 2007, 08:17:46 AM
  D-3      Around the Region, Midwest:
    The Cougars get some recognition for their early exploits in the IBC.
    If your a "Believer" and there are many, enjoy the ride.
    Playing Eureka and the Mac freshmen will pad the stats but the true test comes when the Cougars play...Con,W....Aurora....The Baby Cheese Heads and Greenville. 
    Up to this point the Cougars are 2-2 over-all and should (better) win
    the  next (2) in order to go into the teeth of their schedule with the 
     momentum  winning brings.   
   IMO, The Cougars run for the Championship (possible but not probable) really starts or....... starts to un-ravel on Oct 13th when they get Con,W at their house . 
    Home field, home crowd, all that excitement......big, big game for the
    Cougars.   
   But remember they first have to beat a weak Eureka team and then a
    really bad MacMurray squad. 
   The 2 teams mentioned above have a combined record (over-all) of 0-6 and have been out-scored by the tune of 289-34.  So I think my words , weak and really bad are well founded.   Goes to S-O-S as well.
     Good luck to the Cougars and the "Believers."   :)
   
   

     
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 27, 2007, 12:00:19 PM
Gomer......that was Beautiful man...... :'(

Anyhow, how about some predictions:

CUW Vs. MAC:
Ugly....

CUW - 65
MAC - 10

Greenville Vs. Aurora:
I HAVE NO IDEA, 50/50 very confused on this game.....but

Greenville - 21
Aurora - 14

CUC Vs. Eureka:
Billy bob and "The Slant" won't stop the Cougars this week, it's about time they just freaking blew someone out of the water for a change, get pumped!!!  Will be worse then last years thrashing.

CUC - 55
Eureka - 7
(Copeland rushes for just about 200 yards and a few scores)

Lakeland Vs. BU:
Not looking good for BU this year, Lakeland rolls.

Lakeland - 35
BU - 3

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on September 27, 2007, 12:23:48 PM
We'll it sucks GC lost to Lakeland. Did not see that coming, just expected GC get over the hump this year.  Hopefully GC can turn it around this Saturday and earn a big win.  It will be a close game just like last year.  I think GC probably has the better offense but AU may have the better defense.  I'm going to go with GC winning 17-14.   

Predictions.........

Lakeland vs BU:   Lakeland wins 42-13

MAC vs CUW: CUW wins 48-7

CUC vs Eureka:  CUC wins 35-14

Greenville @ AU:  GC wins 17-14
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 27, 2007, 01:43:34 PM
 TruCountry95;

GC will bounce back this week. They will have a shot at beating CUW. That will be a good game. If they beat AU then look out they could run the remaining games. Having CUW late and in Greenville is an advantage. Good Luck this week.


9-29-07 Predictions;

CUW@Mac, CUW 76-0, Long trip to J'ville but CUW to athletic. Lots of JV action for the Falcons.

GC@AU, GC 27-7, GC bounces back, AU's offense has to control the ball to keep it close. If the AU defense cannot contain the GC QB then they can't win.

CUC@ EU, CUC 31-7, CUC runs and passes all over the field, CUC scores on big plays. EU will run the ball and don't be surprised if they have more possession time.

Lakeland@BU, Lakeland 21-7, Last of 4 straight road games, BU will keep it close early. Big question for BU, can they move the ball and score? Lakeland must cut down on penalities and red zone turnovers.


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on September 27, 2007, 05:16:16 PM
The 07 campaign marks the last year of the IBFC, does anyone have any thoughts on an All-Century IBFC?  Below are my thoughts.  As you can tell the O-Line category is a little difficult.  Most of the nominees were All-Americans, All-Region or POYs.

QB - Kevin Fix LC
RB - Jamie Lee Mac
RB - Manny Mills CUW
TE - Bryan Meier GC
OL - Curtis Fisher Mac
OL - Bryon Megli AU
OL - ?
OL - ?
OL - ?
WR - Darryl DeShields GC
WR - Jon Collier CUW

K/P - Joel Aromi CUC
Athlete - Chris Pfalzgraf AU

DL - Jeremy Benson AU
DL - Mike Gardiner BU
DL - Pat Ryan BU
DL - Jon Jones Mac
LB - Aguilar GC
LB - Frank Carter Mac
LB - Jake Knighton CUW
DB - Kip Daniels AU
DB - Charles Verdone BU
DB - Gary Bolden Mac
DB - Robbie Parry AU

PR/KR - ?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 27, 2007, 05:40:20 PM
You gotta put Nick Koch on that list  he's from AU, really the only stand out for lineman the last couple of years
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on September 27, 2007, 05:55:43 PM
Quote from: WhatDoIKnow on September 27, 2007, 05:16:16 PM
The 07 campaign marks the last year of the IBFC, does anyone have any thoughts on an All-Century IBFC?  Below are my thoughts.  As you can tell the O-Line category is a little difficult.  Most of the nominees were All-Americans, All-Region or POYs.

QB - Kevin Fix LC



The QB has to be Mark Novara from Lakeland - he owns the Lakeland record book. Over 11,000 career passing yds (Fix had 6250), the top three passing seasons in LC history and #1 in completions in a game, season and career, the top 3 spots in yards in a game and #1 in TDs in a season and career.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 27, 2007, 08:41:05 PM
I have a nomination...

Todd Black, WR CUC (Concordia College when he was here)

Black played only two years at Concordia and holds nearly all the single game marks, not many career marks because he was only there for two years.  But he was an All-American and later played for the Chicago Bears under Mike Ditka for two years.

And what about Olindo Mare from MacMurray, or were they not part of the conference then? 
(P.S. He is on my fantasy football team)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 27, 2007, 10:01:01 PM
Cougswillwin-

You beat me to it man.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on September 27, 2007, 10:02:20 PM
I guess I should have been more specific when it comes to the time frame.  The IBFC became a D3 conference only in 98 and thus I am looking for players from the 98 season to the present.  Before 98, the conference consisted of NAIA, D2 and D3 schools.

FatalImpact,

I don't think I would put Nick on the list as he wasn't ever the OL of the Year.  Was he even 1st team All-Conf?

Fishguy,

I believe Novara preceded the the new IBFC, but certainly correct me if I am wrong.

Anyone else have any suggestions.



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on September 27, 2007, 10:29:04 PM
Anthony Ballerino 2004 WR of the Year

stats 85 catches 1084 yards 11 touchdowns, he should be on the All-IBFC Team
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 28, 2007, 07:09:22 AM
I think he was first team all conference for like 2-3 years, just cause he wasn't the OL of the year doesn't mean he wasn't a reat OL, he was like the second coming of Bryon megli at AU, he deserves to be on your all time list, plus you can only pick one OL per year, doesnt mean there weren't other great OL, plus some of that stuff gets political, HE DESERVES IT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 28, 2007, 08:41:41 AM
Quote from: catch22 on September 27, 2007, 10:29:04 PM
Anthony Ballerino 2004 WR of the Year

stats 85 catches 1084 yards 11 touchdowns, he should be on the All-IBFC Team

   A solid selection. But for accuracy sake it`s 1074 yds not 1084.
   As you stated #10 was also selected as the Wr of the year in the IBFC
   in 2004.  Sole selectee. No tie.
   He also was selected  twice (2) for the Div-3 Team of The Week. That
really stands out  when you think of how many schools are playing D-3 football. About 220+.
   The Div-3, NCAA statistics for 2004 rank #10 as follows:
  (1)  Receptions per game: 3rd in the Nation.
   (2)  Receiving yards per game: 10th in the Nation.
   (3)  All purpose yards.............: 47th in the Nation.
     Also selected 3 times to the IBFC all Conference Team.  Twice (2) as 1st
    team WR.  Two year (2) selection as a Team Captain by his peers. Holds several  school and career football records as well.
    Won every award that the MacMurray gives out for football. Plus
    his over-all 4 year totals are impressive as well. 
    It`s a given, anytime an "ALL" anything is presented ( by
     WhatDoIKnow), not all agree with
    who gets selected for what but in this case I believe #10`s credentials
     (facts) speak for themselves
    . While your selections are certainly credible,   I don`t believe they
     exceed #10`s.   :) 
     
   
   
       
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on September 28, 2007, 10:02:18 AM
My All IBFC Team

Offense
QB - Mark Novara LC
RB- Jamie Lee   Mac
OL Curtis Fisher Mac
OL Keith Williams Mac
Ol Bryon Megli AU
OL Mask CUW
OL Nick Koch AU
WR Jon Collier CUW
WR Anthony Ballerino MAC

Defense
DL Jeremy Benson  AU
DL Mike Gardiner BU
DL Jon Jones Mac
DL Mike #43 from CUW
LB Frank Carter Mac
LB Sam Scharinger LC
LB Tesfa Smith LC
LB Jake Knighton CUW
DB Kip Daniels AU
DB Verdone BU
DB Gary Bolden Mac
DBRandy Manuel Mac
KR/PR Nehimiah Parker 2001 Special Teams Player of the Year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 28, 2007, 03:54:33 PM
I also think at the Qb spot you have to consider....Ryan Mauri LC and Drew Hornung, I believe at one time both were slated as the Off Player of the year in different years.....both definitely made their teams better and were exceptional QB's not to take away from anyone else....just sayin' they ought to be considered.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lineman79 on September 28, 2007, 03:56:21 PM
Kurt Barth- WR Eureka College

256 rec., 4,311 yds. from 1994-97

Barth was a multiple time All IBFC conference pick, Gagliardi finalist and broke the D3 career rec. yardage record in '97. Currently he is #5 on the all time list. #6 on career Rec TD List

I would think you would have to include him on the list...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on September 28, 2007, 04:00:43 PM
catch, you gotta add Robby Parry to that list, he led the NCAA Div3 in knockdowns in 2004 was a preseason AA the next year and was def player of that year I believe, Catch he has to be on that list
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 29, 2007, 08:07:23 AM
Saturday, Sept 29th.
   
   (1) Greenville at Aurora:  Both have an "over-all"record of 1-2.
         I think the wheels came off Greenville last week when they lost to LC.
      Much was expected of GC but they didn`t come through. Aurora on the
     other hand beat up on a very bad MacMurray.  Hard to tell who is the
      better of the two but I think GC gets to help sing the Aurora fight song.
       Aurora.
   (2)  Baby Cheese Heads at BU:  Both are 1-3 over-all. LC got beat by some quality teams while BU got beat by CU-C.   
       BU will make a game of it only because they show up. Lakeland is in no mood to lose to a team that got beat by the Cougars.
        The baby cheese heads will get lots of exercise running up and down the field and get to sing their fight song to the BU faithful.
       Baby Cheese Heads.
     (3)   Eureka at CU-C:  Eureka is 0-3 over-all while the Cougars are 2-2 over-all and tied for 1st place in the IBC.  There is no room for error here
    folks! 
    The Cougars are flying high and gaining momentum so this game is the
   most important one so far. Lose it and the free  fall starts!
    Believers get ready to sing the Cougar fight song.  While you can :)
    Cougars
    (4) Con,W at MacMurray:  MacMurray has a dismal 0-3 over-all record.
        While CU-W has a 2-2 over-all plus they are tied for 1st place in the
        IBC.
      As one poster said (para phase) why be surprised, they`re ( Mac) mostly
     freshmen. I wonder how many of these now freshmen will be back next
      year?  Mac could very well go 0-10. 
     CU-W is a far superior team both in coaching and athletes.  As far as the game is concerned, Mac should just sit in the stands and watch as no matter where they (Mac) are it will look and feel like a practice game to the
    bad boys from Mequon.
      CU-W may well start singing their fight song late in the 2nd quarter.
       CU-W.
    *****
      Late addition: Just noticed on "The Official Website of MacMurray College  Athletics":  Official no less!
      The date shown for todays game against  CU-W is listed
         as...............9/30, which is Sunday!  Maybe Mac thinks if CU_W see`s
     this they won`t show and Mac wins by forfeit.   If you can`t beat-um,
     trick-um . ;)    
     
         
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 29, 2007, 03:59:24 PM
D-3 Scoreboard:

                  Eureka-20
                  CU_C-   7     at the half.

      The "Believers" better hope their Cougar doesn`t get de-clawed.
       
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 29, 2007, 04:26:22 PM
HOOOOOOLY crap

Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 29, 2007, 05:42:29 PM
 Final!
   
   Aurora 16     Greenvillle- 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lineman79 on September 29, 2007, 05:57:56 PM
Final from Eureka:

CUC 21  Eureka 28

GO Red Devils!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: flathead52 on September 29, 2007, 06:58:21 PM
Mac   0
CUW 50
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on September 29, 2007, 10:29:09 PM
Lakeland won 21-7 defense did not let up any TD only TD for Benedictine was on a interception.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 30, 2007, 07:51:07 AM
    The Cougar has been de-clawed. The run for a championship is over.
         There is a certain irony in all this, as I see it anyway. Got the following information from D-3, Around The Nation, Ranking The Conferences-- part 2:
   (1)  Longest current losing streak(s): Eureka, 20 consecutive losses.
    Last win vs CU-C  32-13 Sept 24th, 2005.
   (2) Longest current conference losing streak: Eureka- 14 consecutive
    IBFC losses. Last win vs CU-C, 32-13  Sept 24th, 2005.
     The Red Devils not only got the monkey of their backs, they de-railed
    what most "Believers" thought would be a banner year for The Cougars.
     
   
       
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on September 30, 2007, 09:06:26 AM
So, will Mac get their first win of the year vs. Concordia, IL, Gomer what are your predictions for next week?

Mac vs. Concordia, IL  Mac wins 28-24, Cougars are down from losing to the Red Devils

Benedictine at Greenville - for two years they have played close ball games, BU gets the win in OT 21-14

Eureka at Lakeland - Eureka win streak stop here, Lakeland by 30.

Aurora vs. Concordia, WI 1st part of the championship series, which I think is a three team race, I pick Aurora early in summer, they always play better in the second half of their schedule no difference here, Aurora will be conference champs after they take care of Concordia, then Lakeland. Score Aurora 14 - Concordia 3

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on September 30, 2007, 09:17:52 AM
Just kidding about the Mac game

Concordia, IL gets back on track 33-14! ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 30, 2007, 09:38:19 AM
Quote from: catch22 on September 30, 2007, 09:06:26 AM
So, will Mac get their first win of the year vs. Concordia, IL, Gomer what are your predictions for next week?

Mac vs. Concordia, IL  Mac wins 28-24, Cougars are down from losing to the Red Devils

Benedictine at Greenville - for two years they have played close ball games, BU gets the win in OT 21-14

Eureka at Lakeland - Eureka win streak stop here, Lakeland by 30.

Aurora vs. Concordia, WI 1st part of the championship series, which I think is a three team race, I pick Aurora early in summer, they always play better in the second half of their schedule no difference here, Aurora will be conference champs after they take care of Concordia, then Lakeland. Score Aurora 14 - Concordia 3



    Catch22:
       It`s a little early for my pick`s  but come friday I`ll have some.
          As to your Mac vs CU-C game.  The MacMurray freshmen (for the lack
         of a better term)  could, I say....could finally win a game but I think
          the Cougars will win this one.  Don`t know why, especially after they
     got  beat by a really bad Eureka team. That was up until yesterday that
        is. ;D
      Your assessment  of a three (3) team race for the championship is right
       on.   Lots of posters thought and rightly so, that Greenville and even
        CU-C would make this year different  but that didn`t last long.
      Greenville imploded and CU-C beat lousy teams and their run would
      have ended on Oct 13th anyway.  Even so, they deserve to be
      congratulated for the excitement they generated.
      As for "who" will win the championship and the RING, we`ll talk later I`m sure. :)

           
             
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 30, 2007, 09:57:43 AM
Quote from: catch22 on September 30, 2007, 09:17:52 AM
Just kidding about the Mac game

Concordia, IL gets back on track 33-14! ;)

   Just a follow up.  Mac is getting beat( through 4 games) by a an average score of
  .................................50+  points per game while "scoring" 2 points per game. 
    Anybody who ever played for MacMurray should be wondering what
    happened to this program? Which not to many years ago was ranked
    in the top 15 in the nation.  Won 2 IBFC championships (2001 & 2002.)
    Had (1) un-defeated season. 1st one in school history. Played in (2)
    NCAA play=off games.
    Lost one in the very last seconds of regulation play but a loss none the less.  What happened??   ???
   
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 30, 2007, 08:08:04 PM
Congrats to the Eureka Red Devils. You proved my predictions wrong. Sounds like your running game is coming around.

I was a bit  shocked at the GC/AU score. I thought GC would give AU some fits with there defense. AU shut down there QB which was a big key. Good job by the Spartans.

The big question for GC, can they recover from and 0-2 start in the IBFC or will they pack it in? IMO they are still a dangerous team.

The champs(CUW) are rolling and will be very difficult to handle.

The last topic for discussion, can the CUC Cougars run the table? Will the CUC defense be able to stop any of the big 3-4 in the IBFC?

Good Luck to everyone's team this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 01, 2007, 07:55:41 AM
Based of all of the scores from this week, it is obvious that this conference is a two horse race this season......IMO
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 01, 2007, 09:39:03 AM
Quote from: old 40 on September 30, 2007, 08:08:04 PM
Congrats to the Eureka Red Devils. You proved my predictions wrong. Sounds like your running game is coming around.

I was a bit  shocked at the GC/AU score. I thought GC would give AU some fits with there defense. AU shut down there QB which was a big key. Good job by the Spartans.

The big question for GC, can they recover from and 0-2 start in the IBFC or will they pack it in? IMO they are still a dangerous team.

The champs(CUW) are rolling and will be very difficult to handle.

The last topic for discussion, can the CUC Cougars run the table? Will the CUC defense be able to stop any of the big 3-4 in the IBFC?

Good Luck to everyone's team this week.
Old 40:
      Just a question on something you said.  Next to last paragraph.
       You said in part,"..............can the CU-C Cougars run the table?"
     I`m not sure in what context you ment that but with a 2-3 over-all record  and 1-1 in conference play....... running the table is not going to
   happen. 
    If you ment by winning the rest of their games they will have "run the table", that`s a different story.  To that I say, not going to happen either.
    To most, I believe, the phrase "running the table"  relates  to going
     undefeated.
    If you would have said," win the rest of their games"  your comment
    would not have been as ambiguous. IMO.
    Not trying to start anything just looking for clarification.  :)
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on October 01, 2007, 01:21:51 PM
Hello and Greetings to all of the IBFC posters............

I was in Jacksonville over the weekend for a wedding and I happened to catch the MacMurray game against CUW!! Let me say this.............WOW, I was embarrassed on how BAD they really were.....People..Put it this way, A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM can beat these boys..............Now, I will say that number 27 Antwain Jones is a BEAST and the LineBacker...Dimitric Hightower and number 91 Ricky Hamilton are good....but these "Freshman" are not good or they need time to mesh or something!!!!!! WHAT I SAW WAS EMBARRASSING....myself as well as Peter Ereg were SHOCKED!!!!!!!! Mac will go 0-10 this season FOR SURE  :'(....and THAT IS A PROMISE...........they are no where near any of the teams I was on......Coaching is terrible too................The worst coaching I had EVERY SEEN......They do however have 2 decent QB's but if I were them....Strongly consider transfering!!!  :-\
       
          Other than that, I hope all is well everywhere else and let me say this....FLORIDA IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!! SUNSHINE AS WELL AS GORGEOUS PEOPLE ALL OVER THE PLACE!!  8)


HAVE A GOOD ONE PEOPLE.........and GOMER...........Your my man, keep it up your opinon is valued greatly on this page!!!!!!!!!! :-*
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 01, 2007, 11:09:25 PM
FatalImpact;

What two horses, do you think, are in this race? I would think it's a 3 horse race, AU, CUW and Lakeland.


Gomer;

You are right. I should of said winning the rest of their games. That was meant for the "believers", I hope they don't jump of their horse even if they will not win the championship. Thanks for keeping me in line.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 02, 2007, 07:19:14 AM
Old 40
     "Believers".......................... ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: YAYA on October 02, 2007, 01:43:29 PM
DOES MAC EVEN HAVE DECENT RBS ???  @ LEAST....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 03, 2007, 11:42:58 AM
Quote from: YAYA on October 02, 2007, 01:43:29 PM
DOES MAC EVEN HAVE DECENT RBS ???  @ LEAST....

I would think that at this point it would be tough to tell, I imagine their line is pretty young..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 04, 2007, 10:31:12 AM
Predictions:

CUC Vs. MAC:
MAC has some confidence now that CUC lost to Eureka (Still have no idea what the heck went on in that game).  And it will show.

MAC - 14
CUC - 10

Eureka Vs. Lakeland:
Don't even have to say much.

Eureka - 7
Lakeland - 40

Aurora Vs. CUW:
Game of the week in my opinion.  Will be close, CUW is the team to beat, Aurora proving themselves.  Close game.

CUW - 28
Aurora - 25

Benedictine Vs. Greenville:
Closer game then most will think.

Benedictine - 17
Greenville - 28

Let's here from the rest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on October 04, 2007, 11:04:28 AM
Baseman21

BU vs. GC  This game will be a defensive game, and the past two seasons it has came down to the last possesion, do not see it being any different, BU wins a close one 28-27.

AU vs. CUW 1st part of the IBFC Championship, Tough classic hard nose ball game won by AU, 17-14

EC vs. LC Do I really need to say anything LC by 30 points

CUC vs. MAC This is the second best game of the week, If CUC beats Mac this will be their first victory over Mac in about 15 years, Mac has not shown it can move the football or score points or stop anyone, If Mac can not score points, because CUC has shown it can score points, If CUC recovers from the lost to Eureka, CUC gets the win 28-17
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 04, 2007, 07:35:51 PM
Predictions for 10-06-07

CUC over MAC, Mac has only scored 8 this year. CUC bounces back and wins 28-6

GC over BU, close game but GC bounces back and has to much Offense GC wins24-9

CUW over AU, Champs keep rolling, AU's defense keeps it close, AU has struggled in Mequon in the past, CUW wins 21-10.

LC over Eureka, The fish score often but Eureka puts up a fight. LC wins 44-0.

I hope the CUC believers have not left the board or the Cougars. Keep supporting them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on October 05, 2007, 01:06:37 AM
larry why would you post that about the team.

Also larry dont you think that your teammates were embaressed when you came off the field after giving up a touchdown as usual, and cussing out your own teammates. you wanna talk about embarassed!!! That showed how much of a class athlete you were. All you knew how to do was talk **** when the team was gettting blown out, that just shows that mac was not only bad but also shows how classless you were and you made the rest of your team look like crap.

Also larry you want talk about bad mac teams, the past two years mac was a  combined 7-13. those were your teams where they not? your senior year you went 3-7 thats an amazing mark.

I know i quit because i did not want to be a part of a losing team that was relying on you and your mouth to get us another 15 yard penalty.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 05, 2007, 07:20:41 AM
Sounds like someone's a little bitter, I doubt that is why you quit,  You probably weren't getting PT on said team and decided to leave
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2007, 11:24:11 AM
  Saturday, 10/6/07:
    Some very important games will be played this week-end. Some to solidify there position in the IBC and some for pride.  Others will show up,get hammered then head for the bus.
   To this point there have been some surprises for some. The BELIEVERS
    of the Cougar nation have all but disappeared as it seems Eureka
   rudely awakened them from their dream of a championship. 
   Greenville................what happened?  Enough said on that.
   
    (1) MacMurray at the home of the Cougar.
        Can Mac win this game? You think?  Will The Cougars still be in a state
      of shock by the thumping Eureka but on them?  Is CU-C capable of
      beating the Mac freshmen team ?  Remember the BELIEVERS made lots
      of predictions early on.  Nothing wrong with touting  your team  but it
      does leave the door ajar for .....  friendly needling.
     The Highlanders are scoring ( on average) 2 pointa a game. They`ve
     been shut-out 3 out of 4 games.  There last in the IBC with an over-all
    record of 0-4.  Plain and simple they stink.  You play with what you have
     and they have nothing.
     The Cougars are playing at home. I wonder if they are still humming the
       Red Devil fight song?  Anyway,  muchwas made of this years Cougars
      or should  I say much was expected of this years team.
      The Cougars are 2-3 over-all beating Blackburn (1-4) and BU(1-4)
       but they can score some points averaging almost 20 points per game.
       IMO, Eureka showed they(CU-C) was over-rated. Check the game
       stats. 
      The Cougars will loss plenty more before this season is over but they
       will thump the lowly freshmen from Mac.
        Believers get to smile again.
      (2) Eureka at the home of the baby cheese heads:
          EC is 1-3 over-all and  averages about 13 points per game.  Their
      claim to fame , they beat the Cougars.
         The bigger question is can they beat Lakeland?
         Maddogs team.........The Baby Cheese heads, have played and lost to
         some mighty fine teams .  Course Maddog would have you believe LC
       should have won them all. ;D
        LC is 2-3 over-all but more importantly 2-0 in conference and tied for
        1st place.  They also score, on average, 17 points per game.
       Lakeland will show Eureka that when you come to their house you get
       beat -up. 
        Cheese Heads sing along with the Fat Lady.
         (3)  Benedictine at Greenville:
                BU is tied for last in the IBC with an over-all record of 1-4. Offense
               is weak as they only score about 7 points per game. 
              Greenville had everybodies attention at the beginning of the
           season but for some reason or another they never got it going.
          So far they are 1-3 over-all but can score some as they average
          about 20 points per game. 
          I think GC gets it going against Bu  and wins game number 2.  Plus
         they get to play Mac and the Believers, more wins!
        (4)Aurora invades CU-W for an early show down. Who ever wins gets
         a leg on on the title.  Should be a great game with all that`s at stake.
        Aurora scores on average 20 points per game and brings an over-all record of 2-2 to CU-W but on the plus side they are 2-0 in the IBC.
         Their "D" has 2 shut outs to their credit as well.
        CU-W, playing at home, in front of their fans will let the dogs out on
this one.
        Being tied for 1st place with a conference record of 2-0, 3-2 over-all.
       They can score as evident of their 32 points per game average shows.
       They only give up about 11 points per game so their "D" is stout.
        Lots on the line here folks but CU-W is not going to get beat at home
        by Aurora.   
        Certainly worth the price of admission.
        CU-W  gets a better grip on 1st place.
   
       
         
   
   
             
       

       
     


     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on October 05, 2007, 11:31:26 AM
Hello everyone......


            It is apparrent that we have another one of those Internet Tough Guys...who have the balls to type crap but kisses my AS* and is a FAKE when I was there!!! :o

              This is why our team never did as good as to our full potential...bc of people like Drucker and others..(no need to name names)...Instead of buying into the team concept...these people upheld the SH*T talking about the team and people on the team behind close doors!!! We had great athletes but never could come together bc of the gap between some people!! :(

              FatalImpact: you were absolutely right....the kid NEVER PLAYED, not even in practice......Ended up trying to be a trainer but QUIT....than a equipment manager but the AD cut our manager so he was left high and dry.....SO how could this kid know anything unless there was some people,....PEOPLE WHO HUNG OUT WITH...was talking junk behind close doors...... Hey it is what it is 8) and have a opinion!!!! BUT I SAY THIS TO WHAT YOU SAID RUCKER......

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Also larry dont you think that your teammates were embaressed when you came off the field after giving up a touchdown as usual, and cussing out your own teammates.
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----------NEVER DID THAT....NEVER PUT DOWN MY TEAM OR TEAMMATES!!!! Might of been fusterated about the situation but never attacked anyone....ALWAYS tried to motivate people to do better!!!

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All you knew how to do was talk **** when the team was gettting blown out, that just shows that mac was not only bad but also shows how classless you were and you made the rest of your team look like crap.
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-----------Anyone who every played against me or along side me....KNEW, I wanted to win so bad and that as a linebacker you need to have a Killer mentality......something that not all people have.....If the team was embarrassed, chances are we embarrassed ourselves by the way we played.... :-\


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Also larry you want talk about bad mac teams, the past two years mac was a  combined 7-13. those were your teams where they not? your senior year you went 3-7 thats an amazing mark.
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---------I played 4 years not 2....and we were 19-23 with never having a solid line.....I think that is pretty decent considering the memories and good games that we played in..... ALSO......IF you were so proud of MACMURRAY...WHY WOULD YOU BE PUTTING DOWN THE TEAMS THAT YOU PLAYED ON?????????? This is what I am talking about people....People like DRUCKER and a HANDFULL of others talking junk about the PEOPLE THEY GO TO BATTLE WITH....(well, tried to go to battle with) INSTEAD OF BUYING INTO THE TEAM CONCEPT!!!! :(

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I know i quit because i did not want to be a part of a losing team that was relying on you and your mouth to get us another 15 yard penalty.
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-------------YOU QUIT BC YOU COULDN'T PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!! You were NEVER in PLAYING SHAPE...AS WELL AS YOU WERE NEVER GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY A COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAME!!!! THE EFFORT AND HEART WAS THERE BUT THE ABILITY WASN'T................. :o


    In closing....I Will say that I am shocked RUCKER.....We got along great and i respected you no matter what....THIS IS A REAL SHOCK >:(....FOR REAL, I never said anything bad about you in my life untill just now......You want to talk about class.....WHAT CLASS DO YOU HAVE??? DONT LIE TO YOURSELF TOOO MAN.....You know what kind of person I have been to you..... :'( THAT SUCKS THAT YOUR ACTING LIKE THAT :-[........ BUT HEY...I lost my respect with you and thats all I got to say to you anymore....SAY WHAT YOU WANT BUT I AM DONE........I Played as hard as I could ever practice and GAME....People who played along side of me, said they loved the energy i brought and how much I LOVED THE GAME and still do!!!!
    All I said is what I saw on Saturday.....Veteran players played good but the team as a whole wasn't.....ITs that simple....Cant someone have a opinion??? ??? I dont understand WHY I GOT ATTACKED???

JR Harriel....Hope your doing good.....Poe....Hope your doing good.....MASK. GILLESPE.......HOPE YOU ALL ARE DOING GOOD....LANGSTON as well..... ALL THE BOYS FROM AURORA on all of the OLINES I PLAYED AGAINST....Hope you all are doing good.........WAGNER....Hope your still bring the PAIN ;D ;D HA HA!!! OTHER THAN THAT................I'M OUT..... ;)

GET MONEY :-*
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2007, 12:58:22 PM
PIROLLO9:
     Big game tonight!   Could be 8,000 fans.    Better get there early or you`ll be stuck by the concession stand and you know you can`t see a
     thing from there.   ;D
     When you see your roomy tell him  I said, what`s up. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on October 05, 2007, 01:12:45 PM
GOMER...............


             BRANTLEY VS LAKE MARY................UH OHHHHHHHHH!!!! LAKE MARY is going to win...........We won my senior year.....and trust me i will not be by the concession stand with those little middle schoolers and freshmans............I WANT TO SEE THOSE PATRIOTS GO DOWN............


I will definitley tell him whats up.......AND keep voicing your opinion......they make alot of sense........Dont mind rucker too..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: chevy57 on October 05, 2007, 04:59:45 PM
Week 6

Eureka - 0
Lakeland - 41

Lakeland misses extra point and Ronald Reagon still can't believe his college decision.

CUW - 34
Aurora - 11

Coach Gabe and Dr. Quinn start to forget about North Central...and win the conference again with ease

Benedictine - 13
Greenville - 27

The Hemanwomanhaters defeat the Coopatroopas.

MacMurray - 35
Curf - 12

Believe this "Believers": You cannot stop the run and Eureka threw for more yards and to more receivers than your so called "Spread Offense"!  Question: Is it possible for the Cougars to spread their butter worse than they "spread" the ball?   

Prediction
Cougars still think they are better than they are and the Highlanders will rush the ball like a switchblade through melted butter and this is the bright spot on the Highlander's radar as they defeat the sad seniors, homesick floridians and the rest of the believers in front of their home crowd. The Believers better be scared because they can't stop the run or spread the ball.

P.S. Are the Highlanders good? No, but they are staying at a Holiday Inn tonight.

Support this Believers: Coach Preis leads curf to another 2 win season!
yeaaah 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2007, 05:16:41 PM
chevy57:
   You said in part," Highlanders will rush the ball like a switchblade through melted butter....."     talking about the CU-C game.

   The week 5 IBFC  statistics show Mac "rushes" the ball on average to the tune of 2.3 yds per carry. They allow 6.6 yds per carry.  6.6!
    CU-C on the other hand rushes at a 3.4 clip, while allowing 3.9 yds.
    Kind of sounds like everybody that`s played Mac had a very hot butter knife.
    In your opinion, Mac scores 35 points on CURF. But so far they`ve only scored at a 2 points per game clip. That`s a mighty big leap of faith.
    I respect your opinion so after the game saturday post up and explain what happened.   :)
   
   
   

 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on October 05, 2007, 09:19:13 PM
I have to agree with Gomer on this one (rare, huh Gomer?!?! ;) ) Just because a team got shocked doesn't mean a total collapse.  And I love Mac but they are gonna need a year or two to build up the talent level before we see any shocking victories.  I'd take CUC in this one, surprised so many people are picking Mac.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on October 05, 2007, 11:03:15 PM
Chevy 57:   :'(






;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 06, 2007, 08:34:21 AM
mac_grad:
     Confucius said, a conclusion supported by facts is un-beatable.
      Translation:  Great minds think a    like..............sometimes.   ;D

         
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 06, 2007, 01:13:51 PM
Chevy-

I was hoping with my 14-10 MAC win prediction I would get the juices flowing today for the Cougars.  I did the same thing against BU and they won, so I figured I would give it a try again, we will see  ;D

But Chevy, MAC winning 35 - 12?  I just don't know about that.  Sure CUC can think about the Eureka game and hold their heads down.  OR.....they can get pissed because they lost to a team who I believe they can demolish. (in my opinion, but now were back to the would, coulda, shoulda game, which gomer has copyrighted)

CUC wins today, hands down......because they need to make an example out of someone, I am hoping today is the day.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 06, 2007, 03:54:26 PM
Ok, well I got an update that CUC is up 21-0

I don't know what half or quarter though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 06, 2007, 07:12:16 PM
  FINAL:  D-3 scoreboard
    Baby Cheese Heads- 32
    Eureka..................-  9
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 07, 2007, 01:44:30 AM
Final in River Forest

CUC - 38
MAC - 6

Copeland absolutely ran all over the place and Marrotta was unstoppable as well.  228 passing yards and 4 TDs, possible player of the week?

Other scores?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 07, 2007, 07:09:02 AM
 
  CU-W- 24                          BU-10
  Aurora-  0                           GC- 7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on October 07, 2007, 10:17:51 AM
The conference championship is starting to shape up for  a show down between Lakeland and Concordia, WI in two weeks,  any predictions for this week? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 07, 2007, 10:23:07 AM
Jeez, talk about Greenville being a dissapointment
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 07, 2007, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: catch22 on October 07, 2007, 10:17:51 AM
The conference championship is starting to shape up for  a show down between Lakeland and Concordia, WI in two weeks,  any predictions for this week? 

  Friday morning.   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 07, 2007, 11:11:09 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 07, 2007, 10:23:07 AM
Jeez, talk about Greenville being a dissapointment

  Greenville has (1) win and that`s over Blackburn.
  Blackburn is 1-5 with their (1) win by way of Principia.
  Principia is 0-6.
  The above just adds credence to your................." a dissapointment."
  Right about now MacMurray thinks they smell a "W".  Not going to happen!
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on October 07, 2007, 11:39:26 AM
When was the last time Mac lost to Concordia, Ill?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 07, 2007, 01:32:28 PM
I think 15 years ago right???

glad CUC took it to someone for a change, especially a team they haven't beaten in over 10 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on October 07, 2007, 01:51:38 PM
Sad year for Mac football, it will be sadder after they lose to Blackburn? WOW!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 07, 2007, 04:55:40 PM
Quote from: catch22 on October 07, 2007, 11:39:26 AM
When was the last time Mac lost to Concordia, Ill?

  baseman201 is correct when he said, 15 years ago."   It was in 1992 and they (Mac) lost in over-time.......... Mac 12     CU-C 18.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 08, 2007, 07:37:13 PM
Was anyone at the AU CUW game? The box score indicated just total domination.  With that defense as good as it is, and greenville dropping out of the race, it looks as tho concordia has to be the easy favorite.  I understand Lakeland is good, but that Euereka Score was less than impressive.



Also, its kind of sad that the only time this message board is extremely active is when everyone is talking s*** and discussing things not pertaining to football. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 08, 2007, 09:07:02 PM
Congrats to Benedictine for a big win at GC. This was a big win for the Eagle program.

CUW will be very hard to beat. Some one will have to play their best ever game and the Falcons will have to play bad and uninspired. It could happen, IMO. You have to stop their rush game and force them to pass, which is not easy to do. Simpson and NCC did and won. The last half of the last IBFC will be interesting.

Paging the "Believers" where are you guys at. You have a big game this week with your sister school CUW. Some have thought that by playing CUW close last year it will be your year to do it. I don't think your defense can stop the CUW train of rushing. Don't stop believing, maybe it will be a miracle Saturday. Good Luck.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 08, 2007, 10:12:55 PM
Yeah, I agree stop CUWs rushing and you should be able to win.  Their passing game isn't exactly what they do best.

I think CUC needs to stack alot of defenders in the box and hope the secondary can cover the WRs.  Kind of like what NFL teams do to the Chiefs, stack 8 in the box and make them beat you with the pass.  I mean, only 43 passing yards Vs. Aurora???  Stop the run, you stop CUW.

CUC will have to play some awesome football to have a chance this Saturday.  With Marotta starting at QB I am hoping they can keep in close and have a shot, just like last year.  Although CUW beat Eureka 70-0 and CUC lost to Eureka (still have no idea how) so that could mean CUW will win 80-0 (if you predict outcomes that way). 

CUC has a shot, I have seen them play first hand and they are a dangerous team when they have everything clicking.  They have a good QB,  RB and have talented WRs (need to hit up the 6'5 Tisdale more often in the red zone), just need to bring it together all at once against CUW and good things will happen.

Just don't let the Eureka game fool you, that's all I am asking.  The loss to Eureka hurts hardcore, and they know that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 09, 2007, 02:02:13 PM
CATCH 22 your right what a sad year for MAC...But hey MAC just keep your head up and keep fighting thats all you can do.....RUCKER whats your deal man all LP is doing is stating the truth...................I dont know who this new coach is but i dont think he knows what MAC FOOTBALL...............  ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 10, 2007, 10:05:24 AM
I'm really not all that surprised about GC losing to BU.  I think GC has had some good players the past couple years but have never been a serious threat to win conference.  They have been good enough to maybe knock off a team that overlooked them.  They have played some teams close but never enough to win.  This year looks like it won't be any different.  They are the perennial pick for upsets, yet they never give it done. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 10, 2007, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: falcsfb on October 10, 2007, 10:05:24 AM
I'm really not all that surprised about GC losing to BU.  I think GC has had some good players the past couple years but have never been a serious threat to win conference.  They have been good enough to maybe knock off a team that overlooked them.  They have played some teams close but never enough to win.  This year looks like it won't be any different.  They are the perennial pick for upsets, yet they never give it done. 

  That`s it in a nut-shell.   :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 11, 2007, 10:24:42 AM
Does no one have opinions anymore?

Where is everyone?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 11, 2007, 10:35:29 AM
Preedictios for 10-13-07

Eureka@GC, GC wins 28-14. Eureka plays tough the first half. To much GC QB.

Game of the week, IMO
AU@BU, BU wins 7-6. Defenses score all the points. Rival game between the two schools.

CUW@ CUC, CUW 28-14. CUC can't stop the CUW rushing game. CUC does move the ball via the air and scores. The question of the week can the "Believers" deiver a miracle?

MAC@ LC, LC wins 48-0. Mac to young and not enough bodies.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lineman79 on October 11, 2007, 11:18:37 AM
Since I posted about Kurt Barth a couple weeks ago I thought I would post this from today's Peoria Journal Star print edition "Remember When" section.

10 Years Ago Today:

"Eureka College wide receiver Kurt Barth becomes the all time leader in NCAA Division III receving yardage in the Red Devils' 34-0 victory over Concordia-River Forrest. The senior from Minonk catches seven passes for 167 yards and three touchdowns from quarterback Matt Koeppel. Barth's career total of 3,998 yards breaks the mark of 3,846 set in 1990 by Dale Amos of Franklin and Marshall."

GO RED DEVILS!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 11, 2007, 01:45:57 PM
It seems as though the battle of the concordias could be a picture perfect "trap" game for wis.  I think if anyone has a chance to pull off the big upset it will be CUC on saturday, CUW might be looking ahead to Lakeland next week.  I think CUC actually matches up against the concordia defense about as well as anyone in conference, the weakest point (if they have one) would have to be the falcon's secondary.  And obviously thats what Chicago does is toss the rock a little.  Should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on October 11, 2007, 02:07:34 PM
Eureka over GC played GC very tough last year, Eureka by two points 24-22

LC over Mac 56- 0

Au over BU - 17-7

CUW over CUC CUW defense is too much for CUC offensive line to handle, 42-14
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 11, 2007, 03:29:48 PM
CUC will stack the box hardcore this week, as well as Lakeland next week, and so on.

CUW won't beat anyone with the pass, as many have said on this board, they are all run. 

Yeah, I think CUC is going to be passing the ball ALOT this week, look for big games from QB Marotta and WRs Tisdale and Meier.  Possibly close to 10 catches each, heck maybe even more.  Not saying CUCs running game won't do anything, Copeland is definately one of the better RBs in the conference.  But CUWs secondary is the weakness, hit them where it hurts.

With that, predictions:

AU Vs. BU:
BU still excited from beating a team picked to finish high in the conference....but not quite enough.

AU - 17
BU - 15

Eureka Vs. Greenville:
I saw Eureka going 1-10 this year (but only beating MAC), and it will stay that way.

Greenville - 25
Eureka - 7

Lakeland Vs. MAC:
CUC handed it to MAC and so will Lakeland

Lakeland - 40
MAC - 3

CUW Vs. CUC:
In the past everyone would pick CUW to roll by 60.  This year is different, with exception to Eureka CUC has been a pretty solid team and scoring points.  It's homecoming and CUC is trying to beat CUW for the first time in 10,000 years.....but, CUW could be too much with that running game of theirs.  I predict they pass for 50 or less yards and rush for over 300.

CUW - 30
CUC - 15
If CUC comes out flat and doesn't play like they can.

CUW - 25
CUC - 32
If CUC comes out fired up, the defense stacks 8 in the box and on offense they pick on the vulverable secondary and scorch them for 300+ passing yards.

Well that's it, good luck to all teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 11, 2007, 04:25:52 PM
Au will beat BU, we went through this same song and dance last year, AU will win, CUC was never the favorite in the conference therefore BU beating them is not a shocker, AU wins
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 11, 2007, 04:56:14 PM
I agree that if you stop CUW's running game you will have a much better chance of winning the game; as it is with any team.  However, that doesn't guarantee anything.  CUW has two exceptional receivers in Levy and Siolka and can really hurt teams passing... when they need to. 

Years ago when CUW ran a spread style offense (beleive it or not)  they did eat teams up with their passing game.  They also had guys like Tim Polasek though, who holds most of the passing records at CUW.  Same Coordinator with good talent (when the QB and O-line are on).  He just needs to delve a little deeper into the playbook. 

Hopefully this game continues to become the great rivalry it should be.  Looking forward to this weekend, and good luck to all!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 11, 2007, 06:07:42 PM
QuoteCUC was never the favorite in the conference therefore BU beating them is not a shocker, AU wins

BU didn't beat CUC this year, did I missunderstand what you meant?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 11, 2007, 11:03:05 PM
Sorry Sorry, I meant GC, in my mind GC was never in the battle, It was always AU LC and CUW........My Bad I did not mean CUC, sorry believers.....GC, is what I meant
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 12, 2007, 11:07:06 AM
Hey......I forgive you,  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2007, 11:29:03 AM
(1)  Eureka at Greenville:  Two 1-4 (over-all) teams.  Eureka made their season by beating the Cougars and Greenville just went south.
      Should be a good game as both are about the same but somebodies got to sing the fight song and Greenville, yes I said Greenville will sing it
     loud and clear.
  (2)MacMurray at The home of the Baby Cheese heads: MacMurray is
   beyond a doubt the worst team in the IBC. They score ,on average, 2+
   points per game and give up almost 50!  The only thing worse is their
    football web-site.
   This years LC team is not on par with some of their past teams, IMO.
    They give up, on average, about 30 points per game. Everbody has scored on them. Eureka got 9.  Their "D" is very suspect to say the least.
    Mac Will score in double figures on LC  and win, 48-6.
    Nothing like a little levity before the hammer comes down.
    THe Baby Cheese Heads, playing on their home field, will be singing their fight song soon after the coin toss. 
    Mac continues on in it`s quest for a perfect season...............0-10.
   (3) Aurora at Benedictine:  I believe somebody called this their "game of the week." Sounds good to me.
      Like some others teams, Aurora is not what they once were. As their over-all record is a mild 2-3.  Points for and against are about even at 16.
    Benedictine, while not a power house by any stretch,  is 2-4 over-all.
    But gives up about 25 points per game.  Not good.   
    BU is playing at home and will have home field advantage, maybe.
    If it wasn`t for them (BU) given up almost 25 per game I`d lean towards them but that`s to many and expect to beat Aurora.
     AU may not be as good as they have been but they like singing their
      fight song in front of an un-ruly crowd
     (4) CU-W at the home of the BELIEVERS:   Lots think The Cougars are going to whip up on the boys from Mequon after all they played them tough last year but losing 31-20.   Key words here is .........last year.
     This years addition of the boys from Mequon have (3) shut-outs to their credit. Their un-defeated in conference play and are 4-2 over-all.
     Scoring average per game is about 31 for and only 9+ against.
     They both played Eureka with different out comes. The Cougars got beat 28-21 and the boys from Mequon destroyed them to the tune of 70-0!
    The Cougars are not having the year most thought or hoped for but
     with an over-all record of 3-3 with (2) of those wins being in the IBC
     all is not lost.................yet.
     Scoring average for and against is about even at around 22 points per
      game.   
      The big game for The Cougars was beating BU. Their other "victories"
      came against Blackburn and MacMurray.
       Those two have a combined 1-10 record. 
      Would I like to see the Believers have a smile on their faces? Absolutely.
      But IMO, the boys from Mequon are just better.  The facts support that.
      Last week the Cougars had to listen to the Eureka fight song and this
     weeks inspirational fight song will be sung by the boys from Mequon.   :)
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Boss on October 12, 2007, 01:27:22 PM
Hey Gomer...I have to disagree with you where you said that CUC is not having as good of a year as many thought they would or hoped they would.  I would say that since their team is so young and having been a poor program for so many years that the expectations were and are low for this season by many fans.  At least everything that I have read and everyone that I have talked to the expectations were consider low.  NOW THAT DOESN'T GO FOR THEIR PLAYERS AND COACHES WHO I'M SURE HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS OF THEMSELVES. 

I personally think that they have (to this point) exceeded expectations for this year!  That being said there is a lot of football to be played and I'm sure that they want to continue to move forward and not rest on what they have done thus far.  I agree that the "L" to Eureka is a black mark on their record right now but they did bounce back nicely last week.  I think that that is just what you get with younger teams...inconsistent play!  If they play that way this week they will get pounded!  As far as their record of (3-3) when you have come from where this program has been over the years I don't care what the combine record of the teams that they have beat is!  Right now they have put themselves in position where this game against Mequon means something!  You have to understand that is something that this program has never been able to discuss at this point of the year.  I mean if they beat Mequon who knows what it will do for their program going forward.  To me the pressure is on Mequon...CUC has nothing to lose because many expect them to lose!  Obviously, based on the past Mequon is favored to win and they should be.  But I will tell you this if CUC can eliminate the mistakes can and will give Mequon all they can handle.  Last years game does not mean a whole lot since the majority of the CUC roster this year is freshmen and they did not play in the game last year. If anything it probably means more to Mequon because they won and they must be thingking just like old hat!

I can not say enough about what Pries and his staff have done with that program.  Just think of what that program was before his arrival.  When judging CUC I think it will have to be from this year forward.  This year Pries is playing with his first recruiting class and his freshmen are major contributors already!  Make no mistake about it CUC is on the rise!  I personally never expected them to do what they have done to this point.  I thought that it would take another year or two before Pries got that thing off the ground.  Now I may be running too fast with this but I don't think that you can over look what is happening there.

To me CUC will be and should be a scary game for the Mequon crew.  Gabrielson has done an amazing job with his group over the years and is an outstanding coach...but I say beware of the obvious!  The obvious being Mequon having been a conference power for years wins going away!  I don't see that happening and actually I predict an UPSET.  Time for the tide to change in this rivalary!

The Aurora / Benedictine game is an interesting one to me!  I will be interested to see which team is going to stand up and right the ship!  I agree I think that Aurora gets it down this week...just a gut feeling!!!

The Eureka / Greenville game you took Greenvillie.  I see it the same way with Greenville at home.  Eureka beat the Cougars (not sure how) but they just can not get the consistent play that they need on offense and to win on the road...I just don't think they will.

The MacMurry game let me take a deep breath...your comments are funny!  I don't need to say anything!!!!



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2007, 02:36:07 PM
Boss:
    A civil retort is always welcomed and yours was that.   :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 12, 2007, 02:47:17 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2007, 11:29:03 AM
(1)  Eureka at Greenville:  Two 1-4 (over-all) teams.  Eureka made their season by beating the Cougars and Greenville just went south.
      Should be a good game as both are about the same but somebodies got to sing the fight song and Greenville, yes I said Greenville will sing it
     loud and clear.
  (2)MacMurray at The home of the Baby Cheese heads: MacMurray is
   beyond a doubt the worst team in the IBC. They score ,on average, 2+
   points per game and give up almost 50!  The only thing worse is their
    football web-site.
   This years LC team is not on par with some of their past teams, IMO.
    They give up, on average, about 30 points per game. Everbody has scored on them. Eureka got 9.  Their "D" is very suspect to say the least.
    Mac Will score in double figures on LC  and win, 48-6.
    Nothing like a little levity before the hammer comes down.
    THe Baby Cheese Heads, playing on their home field, will be singing their fight song soon after the coin toss. 
    Mac continues on in it`s quest for a perfect season...............0-10.
   (3) Aurora at Benedictine:  I believe somebody called this their "game of the week." Sounds good to me.
      Like some others teams, Aurora is not what they once were. As their over-all record is a mild 2-3.  Points for and against are about even at 16.
    Benedictine, while not a power house by any stretch,  is 2-4 over-all.
    But gives up about 25 points per game.  Not good.   
    BU is playing at home and will have home field advantage, maybe.
    If it wasn`t for them (BU) given up almost 25 per game I`d lean towards them but that`s to many and expect to beat Aurora.
     AU may not be as good as they have been but they like singing their
      fight song in front of an un-ruly crowd
     (4) CU-W at the home of the BELIEVERS:   Lots think The Cougars are going to whip up on the boys from Mequon after all they played them tough last year but losing 31-20.   Key words here is .........last year.
     This years addition of the boys from Mequon have (3) shut-outs to their credit. Their un-defeated in conference play and are 4-2 over-all.
     Scoring average per game is about 31 for and only 9+ against.
     They both played Eureka with different out comes. The Cougars got beat 28-21 and the boys from Mequon destroyed them to the tune of 70-0!
    The Cougars are not having the year most thought or hoped for but
     with an over-all record of 3-3 with (2) of those wins being in the IBC
     all is not lost.................yet.
     Scoring average for and against is about even at around 22 points per
      game.   
      The big game for The Cougars was beating BU. Their other "victories"
      came against Blackburn and MacMurray.
       Those two have a combined 1-10 record. 
      Would I like to see the Believers have a smile on their faces? Absolutely.
      But IMO, the boys from Mequon are just better.  The facts support that.
      Last week the Cougars had to listen to the Eureka fight song and this
     weeks inspirational fight song will be sung by the boys from Mequon.   :)
   
     

You seen it recently Gomer?  It's pretty much non-existant...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2007, 03:12:21 PM
mac_5_seven:
     Yes I have.   It seems like for the last couple of years it`s been ..............................under constant re-designing but never completed.
   Or as it now says," New headlines coming soon."
    I see Mac has a new interim Ath Dir.   That`s the same person under whose stewardship parts of the football site was deleted, mainly the
   RECORD book part.  Lots of personal records lost from about 25 years of
   football.   
    You think Mac Admin cares? Just look at the site!
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2007, 03:16:11 PM
Maddog: Put down the broom and join the fun.  ;) 
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 12, 2007, 05:04:51 PM
QuoteLots think The Cougars are going to whip up on the boys from Mequon after all they played them tough last year but losing 31-20

I don't think anyone expects CUC to whoop up on Mequon.  I am just hoping CUC stays close enough to have a chance at the end, if they do then Mequon needs to watch out.  But 100% of this board isn't expecting CUC to walk all over Mequon........maybe one day........

Boss-
Well said.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Macinsidelady on October 12, 2007, 05:27:15 PM
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen!! I really love reading your posts when you are making predictions and talking about football. When your claws come out, it... well, you look silly.

Who is the Mac Coach? Kyle Sweeney... does he know Mac football? Yes... he's the head coach. If you want to know more about what he knows... call him. Go to a game and talk to him afterwards... visit him on campus. Sweeney knows Mac football better than any person posting here today because he's not living in the good ole' days or in the future. He's there every day and every night working alongside his assistant coaches and players; they are all sweating it out together. I can't speak for Coach, but when I see him interact with the players, none of them look like they are having a "sad year". They are one of the strongest freshman classes academically that I've seen in a long time... and Coach Sweeney is coaching them on and off the field.

Good things take time... and young people need encouragement. So... advice from LP like, "Think about transferring..." is obviously advice coming from a young man who went to college to play football, period (and I never met him, but I'm wondering if he's not a little bitter?)  ::)

And... Why is Rucker a bit upset? Because he is there at Mac in the here and now too. He doesn't agree with the perspective of people who are attempting to tear down the spirit of the players, coaches, adm... it's one thing to evaluate a team's ability... it's another thing to be mean-spirited about it. Didn't your momma's teach you better than that?

Success isn't always spelled out on the score board. I know... go ahead and attack me... I'm a girl, so what do I know? I know MacMurray players have heart and everyone there is working together and having a great year. Say what you will, but you can't touch them. They are learning and growing... things are improving... the administration is phenomenal... And... ohmygosh... some of the freshman football players are the best of their academic class. Imagine that! Students going to college to earn a degree. Wow.

I hope your teams win... but more than that I hope your young men play safely and with integrity this weekend. Meanwhile, I'm still holding out for the young MacMurray Highlanders team and their new coaching staff.   ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 13, 2007, 12:56:50 AM
All of the talk about macmurray becoming good students and everything is great.  And your right on this level, thats what its all about.  BUT, you ended your post with something about "playing with integrity".... im not criticizing you because your a girl, im criticizing you because you have never played a football game against macmurray college.  There is no integrity, no sportsmanship.  That is why people talk so much crap about them, and that is why they have so far to go as a program.  Not just to turn themselves into a good on the field football team, but to turn themselves into respectable players who are not hated by their foes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2007, 08:05:01 AM
macinsidelady:
 
  "ohmygosh"  nice to have a Valley Girl posting. 
     After reading your post I`d like to quote you and add a comment.
    You said in part,".....go ahead and attack me....I`m a girl,what do I
     know?"   
     Sounds to me like you came to the correct conclusion.    :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 13, 2007, 12:14:23 PM
ZING!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on October 13, 2007, 12:22:59 PM
Macinsidelady you said LP went to school to play football, but Larry did graduate from Mac so where is you validity into that?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2007, 02:49:35 PM
 Aurora-7
Benedictine- 0               Start of 2nd.  D-3 scoreboard

Looks like BU came to play.  If they (BU) win.........well, lets wait and see.

   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gizmachi on October 13, 2007, 05:10:57 PM
CUW - 45
CUC - 0

Booya!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 13, 2007, 05:19:29 PM
wow, that's ugly.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 13, 2007, 06:20:09 PM
LC - 49
MacMurray - 18

It was 42-0 at half time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2007, 07:18:36 PM
 Benedictine--------20        2 over-times!
  Aurora.................17
 
  Great win for BU as they haven beaten Aurora in some time.
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2007, 07:27:27 PM
Quote from: Gizmachi on October 13, 2007, 05:10:57 PM
CUW - 45
CUC - 0

Booya!

  So much for an up-set or for that matter......giving them (CU-W) a good game or hanging around till the 4th quarter.................
    Believers, if you do the talk you have to do the walk! 
    Looking forward to the ,  woulda.....coulda....shoulda comments.   :D
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on October 13, 2007, 08:21:19 PM
I know I'm a Mac grad, but I think she has many things right.  First of all, I know about all the dirty play tactics of the past that people on this board always complained about, and from what I heard around campus, at least some of it was true.  But you have to commend a coach who's coming in and at least trying to clean up their act.  Secondly, I think this is what we can call "rebuilding."  This is a large scale comparison but look at MLB.  The Rockies and the Diamondbacks in the NLCS?  Nobody would have predicted that.

I know Coach Sweeney's not winning games but the fact that the freshman class is succeeding academically is astounding, considering that in years past half of all freshmen transferred because they thought they were gonna come in and be all-star football players, and then they didn't even play.  So no, I'm not saying an 0-10 season or a 1-9 season is a good thing, but don't completely tear them down.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gizmachi on October 13, 2007, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2007, 07:27:27 PM
  So much for an up-set or for that matter......giving them (CU-W) a good game or hanging around till the 4th quarter.................

It was a little iffy before the half. 3-0 at the end of the 1st, 10-0 by the half. Offense musta got reamed in the locker room cuz they stepped up to the plate in the 2nd half.  It's gonna be interesting next week against LC... here's where the IBC title is decided.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 14, 2007, 07:04:03 AM
Greenville----54
Eureka.........14

Greenville finally gets an IBC win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 14, 2007, 08:22:57 AM
Quote from: Eyeinthesky on October 13, 2007, 06:20:09 PM
LC - 49
MacMurray - 18

It was 42-0 at half time.

  Final score:      Cheese heads 49     
  MacMurray, "The School of Higher Learning".....18.

  Cheese Heads play a "real" game next week against The Boys from Mequon while Mac continues on it`s quest for a perfect season which now stands at 0-6 over-all. 
   4 more losses and they will go down in infamy.......0-10. 
   They will will have the distinction of being the first  team in MacMurray
    football history, dating to 1985, to go .............0-10!   Now there`s
    something special to hang your hat on.
     

    

     
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Macinsidelady on October 14, 2007, 01:01:38 PM
Well, I have to admit, you guys are fun.

Gomer... "The School of Higher Learning"... I know you meant that as a slam but, I like it!! When I read it, I was, like.. No WAY! Gomer, Totally did not just SAY that!  :-*

And, I may come off like a valley girl in print (just trying to be humble and acquiesce when I'm a guest on a board). However, my husband is thankful I have no experience playing football. The truth is, I DO know academics and I recognize a rebuilding effort when I see one. Thanks mac_grad for reading my intentions... and congrats to Coach Sweeney and his boys for scoring in the double-digits. I wish I could have been there to cheer them on.

See you all soon... but, of course, it won't be in the locker room.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on October 14, 2007, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on October 11, 2007, 04:25:52 PM
Au will beat BU, we went through this same song and dance last year, AU will win, CUC was never the favorite in the conference therefore BU beating them is not a shocker, AU wins

What happened to the mighty mighty Spartans?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 14, 2007, 06:28:01 PM
Well I know where your allegiance lies....Anyway it was a hard fought game, AU deserved to win
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 14, 2007, 07:34:26 PM
Looks like GC made up for the last few weeks of getting L's. Congrats to the GC and BU.

Fatal Impact;
If AU deserved to win they would of won. I wonder why AU did not kick the FG on 4th. down in OT? Just befor BU has it's chance. AU"s defense is one of the better defenses in the league. Worst case, the score is still tied. AU will rebound big against the Cougars for Homecoming/Senior Day.

CUW vs Lakeland should be interesting. Was anyone at the LC and Mac game? How do they score on LC, unless it was a JV game. The game stats suggest that and it also suggest the the fish had turnovers early.  That will get them beat by 21 at CUW. The Falcons have a good take away advantage and have not made many mistakes. LC may be the fastest team they have played. I hope it is a good game. Anyone's thoughts?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 14, 2007, 07:47:38 PM
Mac is doing all that it can with a young squad.  The fact of the matter is things needed to be cleaned up at Mac, and hopefully they are now.  Don't knock the fact tghat Mac players are making grades.  One of the biggest problems at Mac has been good players flunking out or getting in too much trouble off the field.  That has been what has kept them from being consistently at the top of the conference.  Even when Mac won the conference back to back this was an issue.  Remeber Freshmen first team OL Maurice Smith back in 2002, where was he in "03, All Conference center from '02 same scenario, 6'6 reciever Mack (booted from team), All conference punt returner-DB Jared Grant(grades), the list can go on and on.  I know because I was a member of those championship teams.  Mac dug themselves this hole and hopefully they can come out of it the right way. No one could expect Mac to do much of anything this year given their current roster.  So as far as I am concerned hold Mac accountable from now, under the Sweeney regime, not the past.  Sometimes change is for the better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 14, 2007, 08:12:53 PM
Quote from: old 40 on October 14, 2007, 07:34:26 PM
CUW vs Lakeland should be interesting. Was anyone at the LC and Mac game? How do they score on LC, unless it was a JV game. The game stats suggest that and it also suggest the the fish had turnovers early.  That will get them beat by 21 at CUW. The Falcons have a good take away advantage and have not made many mistakes. LC may be the fastest team they have played. I hope it is a good game. Anyone's thoughts?

I was at the LC vs Mac game.  There were 2 Turnovers early which stalled drives by LC, 1 was a fumble inside the Mac 20 and the other was just an errant throw. LC's 2nd team was in the whole 2nd half. Mac scored on a punt return right after half.  Much Props to #25  Chris Booker of MacMurray who single handly accounted for all of Mac's Points.  After half Mac Scrapped their offense and placed #25 in the shotgun and they ran an option on every play.  I'm looking forward to the Cheese Bowl... should be a good game definately going to decide what team represents the IBC for the last time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on October 14, 2007, 09:20:32 PM
Fatal - AU had opportunities to win the game yesterday, but certainly did not deserve to win the game.  As a neutral observer, it appeared the AU coaching staff got outcoached from the last few minutes of the first half through the game winning field goal?  What type of coach does not put points on the board (field goal) during overtime when the opposition hasn't even had the ball yet?....Wait I know, a coach who needs to go!

For those who say he didn't have confidence in the kicking the field goal from the 10 yd line, which is an extra pt, then he should have maybe went for 2 in the first OT.  Just a thought, but some changes need to be made on the AU staff.

Old 40 - I would not say AU has a good defense when it comes to D3 football, but they have a good defense when it comes to playing the teams in the IBFC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 14, 2007, 09:40:17 PM
I agree with what do I know,

Nobody in the IBFC has the right to be compared with anything outside the IBFC because they have never done anything outside of the conference.  Hence the "0" playoff wins and the terrible record against good teams from outside the conference.   I know Mac almost beat Thomas More and Cuw played a tough game but that does not count for anything.
Quote from: WhatDoIKnow on October 14, 2007, 09:20:32 PM
Fatal - AU had opportunities to win the game yesterday, but certainly did not deserve to win the game.  As a neutral observer, it appeared the AU coaching staff got outcoached from the last few minutes of the first half through the game winning field goal?  What type of coach does not put points on the board (field goal) during overtime when the opposition hasn't even had the ball yet?....Wait I know, a coach who needs to go!

For those who say he didn't have confidence in the kicking the field goal from the 10 yd line, which is an extra pt, then he should have maybe went for 2 in the first OT.  Just a thought, but some changes need to be made on the AU staff.

Old 40 - I would not say AU has a good defense when it comes to D3 football, but they have a good defense when it comes to playing the teams in the IBFC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 15, 2007, 07:20:29 AM
  WhatdoIknow:
     I tend to agree with you about your comments ref: going for the field-goal in the AU game as their kicker had already kicked(1) but they`re
   over-all field goal record before that game was 0-3.  Not stellar for sure.
    As to the "why" their coach chose not go for the field goal, there in lies
     the mystery. 
   On the other side of the ball, Benedictine was 2-3 on their FG attempts
   with one of those being the FG that won the game in 2nd OT period.
   How`s that for irony?  :)
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 15, 2007, 07:45:23 AM
FRM IBFC Champ:
    Just to add a little to your post ref: Thomas More.
    Mac came as close as one can to a win but lost in the last .......14
    seconds. 14 seconds!  That information is in the game write up.       
    But as the line goes, close but no cigar.
    One long lasting memory for you is the "RING" and the 1st conference
    championship for Mac.  Plus, the 1st NCAA play-off game, albeit a loss.
    2002: If you were still there, a banner year.
     The  1st un-defeated football season( 10-0) in Mac`s history. Another
      ring. Another NCAA play-off game.....albeit another loss.
    You have a lot to be proud of and the memories will last you a life time.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on October 15, 2007, 08:10:27 AM
 6'6 reciever Mack (booted from team)............MACk quit the team to go tryout for the USA Vollyball team...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 15, 2007, 08:16:11 AM
Early line on one of this week-ends games.   

  The Boys from Mequon( home game)........................Baby Cheese Heads.
      The gang from Mequon has a better "D".  They give up about 8 points per game as opposed to The Baby Cheese Heads who give up about 27+.
      Just something to think about.
     Maddog:  You still have the sheet music with the lyrics from, "The Boys
      from Mequon ?"   ;D
     
       
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 15, 2007, 02:23:15 PM
Someone earlier said that the CUC Vs. CUW game was 10-0 CUW at halftime....actually the score was only 3-0 at halftime.  CUC hung with them for a whole half before it all went South. 

I have no idea what happend that 2nd half.  Not going to play the woulda, coulda, shoulda game though.  CUW seemed to make the appropriate adjustments the 2nd half and CUC didn't, plain and simple. 

After seeing them hang with CUW so well (the first half), they definately have a chance against Lakeland, Greenville and especially AU.  Considering BU beat both Greenville and AU.  But easier said then actually done on the field.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_7_seven on October 15, 2007, 03:30:17 PM
I'm glad to see someone finally have something positive to say about Mac football.  I played and graduated from Mac 92-97.  We had some very lean times during the early part of my time @ Mac.  I hate to admit it but I was on the team that lost to Blackburn.  We had a horrible training staff and questionable coaches.  Our playing field was the worst in the IBC.  You just learned to deal with it.  We all choose Mac.  One differance that I see now is that past players never ripped on the current players and coaching staff like they do now. We are all part of the Mac football history some have better memories than others.  If your memories are bad you have no one but yourself to blame for that. Get behind your program.  We are the only school that bad mouths are own school.  I laugh at how we air all of our dirty laundry on this board.  A once proud program has hit a bad time.  Give the current coaches a chance to turn the program around.  We all know they are not working on the same playing field as others.  It is what it is.  We all got chance to play football for 4 more years and get a college education. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 15, 2007, 06:08:58 PM
baseman......ummmmm no
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 15, 2007, 10:27:21 PM
Fatal-

I assume you said, Ummmm...no because you don't think they (CUC) has a chance the rest of the way.

Well, BU beat both AU and Greenville, CUC beat BU.  Does that not mean that CUC even has a chance to win? 

I think they have a legit chance in knocking off at least one of their remaining opponents.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 15, 2007, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 15, 2007, 07:45:23 AM
FRM IBFC Champ:
    Just to add a little to your post ref: Thomas More.
    Mac came as close as one can to a win but lost in the last .......14
    seconds. 14 seconds!  That information is in the game write up.       
    But as the line goes, close but no cigar.
    One long lasting memory for you is the "RING" and the 1st conference
    championship for Mac.  Plus, the 1st NCAA play-off game, albeit a loss.
    2002: If you were still there, a banner year.
     The  1st un-defeated football season( 10-0) in Mac`s history. Another
      ring. Another NCAA play-off game.....albeit another loss.
    You have a lot to be proud of and the memories will last you a life time.
     

I appreciate it Gomer, I just want to see Mac turn it around. I have read your complaints from the website to the recordkeeping etc. I agree with those complaints 100%.  Mac as a school has issues from admissions to SID but I still can't bring myself to bash them on this platform.   The alumni (especially those who were athletes) need to express their concerns to Mac Admin to let them know that some of the things we have seen are unacceptable and need to be corrected.  There are a lot of Mac "haters" who post here and I certaninly don't want to give them more ammunition.  As I always I still enjoy reading your posts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 16, 2007, 12:35:03 AM
CUW has a serious chance to not give up a point in conference play this season.  Im to lazy to look up the stats (im sure one of you, probably gomer, will find it out eventually), but that probably has never happened.  That would be one hell of a way to finish out the IBFC for the falcons.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 16, 2007, 07:16:18 AM
baseman CUC will always be the underdog in every game till proven otherwise
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 16, 2007, 09:13:43 AM
Quote from: cudub on October 16, 2007, 12:35:03 AM
CUW has a serious chance to not give up a point in conference play this season.  Im to lazy to look up the stats (im sure one of you, probably gomer, will find it out eventually), but that probably has never happened.  That would be one hell of a way to finish out the IBFC for the falcons.

  In 2001 Aurora had (4) shut outs to their credit  but not consecutively like
  The Boys from Mequon have done thus far. So, as far as "shut-outs" go, 4
  is the bench mark.
   For CU_W to run the table (7 shut-outs)......would be in the realm of possibility. Never has been done in the IBFC! 
    The first order of business for  the falcons is win the game and there-by sew up the IBFC championship.
     If they were to shut out the Cheese Heads along the way then............. they would have a "serious chance"  from that point as they only have GC and Benedictine left on their schedule. 
     Just for the record, Benedictine does have a fairly good FG kicker whose
     5-8 in attempts.  4-6 inside the the 39 yd line.  Dangerous weapon.
    Keep in mind LC is 4-0 in conference play this season but has lost to the
    Boys from Mequon 4 out there last 5 meetings. To go along with that CU-W never shut them out in those losses either. In fact, from 1999-2006 LC
   has only been shut-out (1)once in 2000 by the Boys from Mequon.
   I think the fly in the ointment is the ....field goal/kicker. LC has one but he
    is  only 1-2 in that dept.  To me, that`s the " threat" right there but I
   honestly believe they (LC) can/will score.
    Looking at the schedule I see where your coming from when you said.
   "serious chance."   
     If CU-C shuts out  Maddog`s wanta bees, then I`ll belive they have a
     really good shot at football immortality but the BU FG kicker holds
    the key that door. IMO. 
    Good observation by the way.   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 16, 2007, 10:47:55 AM
Past seven years head to head

CUW 6-1 v LC

CUW with 193 points for and 82 against

in keeping with the trend CUW over LC 28-14
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on October 17, 2007, 12:14:49 PM
Where is the Talent?
I have been around the IBC for 9 years and over that time I have seen a dramatic decrease in the overall talent of the players.  There are no Jamie Lee's, Frank Carter's, Jeremy Benson's, Mike Gardner's (to name a few) in this league anymore.  I went to the AU-BU game and there wasn't one game breaker on either team.  How can the coaches at the IBC compete in recruiting with the CCIW, WIAC, and IIAC.  Those conferences provide in most cases, better facilities, better educations, real college environments, and a great competative balance.  I know this is the last year for the IBC.  The questions looms.  Will the new leagues be any better?  Or is this a lateral move for the IBC schools?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 17, 2007, 12:33:05 PM
Da One;

Good thoughts and very true. The CCIW and WIAC really have the advantage because they offer big school environment within a small school. I was at the LC-Cathage game and was very impressed with all the activitey that takes place pre-game, during the game and post game. Hundreds tailgating, Half time fireworks display, postgame tailgating and 4,000 loud and wild people in the stands.

Some of the IBFC teams have upgraded their stadiums but still lack the environment. The BU-LC game at Benedictine was very poorly attended by the BU homecoming crowd and they have the best stadium in the league.

This is why the CCIW and WIAC attrack the difference makers. Some of the IBFC schools have better tuition cost and some can get lower academic people in but in no way can they compete with the CCIW, WIAC for the difference makers. This is only my opinoin and I don't think I am to far off base on this subject.

The NAC will not be an upgrade from the IBFC as far as Football goes, IMO. However it will be a good all sport league.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 17, 2007, 01:08:49 PM
Some stats to think about for a couple of games this week. Pulled from NCAA stats and the Kickoff(Pat has broken down the scoring by conference and overall). If you did not get the kickoff this year do not miss it next year.

CUC@AU

                           AU                            Conference                                     CUC

Points For           80                                                                                      80
Points Against    44                              Overall                                              89

Points For           100                                                                                    136
Points Against     104                                                                                   175   

From The NCAA ststs Overall games as of 10-13-07.

Total Off.               261yds/game                                                               299yds/game
Total Def.              269yds/game                                                                347yds/game
Rush Off.               164yds/game                                                                122yds/game
Rush Def.              126yds/game                                                                217yds/game
Pass Off.                97yds/game                                                                  176yds/game
Scoring Off.            16.7points/game                                                           19.4points/game
Scoring Def.           17.3points/game                                                           25points/game
Turnover Margin      0                                                                                    (0.9)
Punting                   29yds/punt                                                                    24.9yds/punt

Everyone can draw your own conclusions from the above stats. To see more click on the NCAA sats on D3Football home page.


LC@CUW
                                       CUW                          Conference                                  LC
Points For                        189                                                                               138
Points Against                    0                                                                                  55
                                                                           Overall Games
Points For                         231                                                                              168
Points Against                    56                                                                              193


From the NCAA Stats site;

                                                                            Overall Games

Total Off.                           379yds/game                                                            303yds/game
Total Def.                          197yds/game                                                            317yds/game
Rush Off.                           252yds/game                                                            108yds/game
Pass Off.                           96yds/game                                                              194yds/game
Scoring Off.                       33points/game                                                          24points/game
Scoring Def.                      8points/game                                                            27points/game
Punting                             35.7yds/punt                                                            31.6yds/punt
Turnover Margin               +1                                                                              (11)


Make your own assumptions for this weeks game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 17, 2007, 01:14:10 PM
Mistake on the CUW/LC stats. On the Total Defense I reversed the numbers. It should read as follows;

CUW   197yds/game
LC      317yds/game


Sorry.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ptownhero on October 17, 2007, 05:18:54 PM
The talent might be down a little bit, but im not sure you can measure talent in the IBC considering no team has won a playoff game yet.  Their are still some pretty good players in the league.  Just not enough of these players are on the same team.  If Aurora had facilities like Benedictine, Aurora would win the conference hands down every year.  Once Aurora decides they need a real football stadium and a field house they will be a great D3 team every year.  The coaching staff is solid and they just need some facilities to turn this place around. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 17, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
ptownhero;
Good points. Lakeland is also in the same predictament, IMO. A new football stadium, turf and weight room would attract more athletes. Lakeland has made some movement to upgrade their facilities, weight room but  lack a top notch stadium with turf. IMO, AU lacks all 3 and with the current administration philosophy I don't see improvement on the horizon, which is to bad. You are right ptownhero, they(AU) need facilities.

Look at CUW they have an state of the art weight room/cardio room and just put in turf, with a new stadium with track coming. Look on their school web site under future Athletic expansion to see their plans.The first school to have everything will take the leadership role of the NAC in Football.

Anyone else have thoughts? Gomer? TruCountry75?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 17, 2007, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: old 40 on October 17, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
ptownhero;
Good points. Lakeland is also in the same predictament, IMO. A new football stadium, turf and weight room would attract more athletes. Lakeland has made some movement to upgrade their facilities, weight room but  lack a top notch stadium with turf. IMO, AU lacks all 3 and with the current administration philosophy I don't see improvement on the horizon, which is to bad. You are right ptownhero, they(AU) need facilities.

Look at CUW they have an state of the art weight room/cardio room and just put in turf, with a new stadium with track coming. Look on their school web site under future Athletic expansion to see their plans.The first school to have everything will take the leadership role of the NAC in Football.

Anyone else have thoughts? Gomer? TruCountry75?

I don't totally disagree with that that statement but I look no further than 1 mile down in Jacksonville at Illinois College.  For those who do not know about IC check out their muti-million dollar Bruner Center on their web site. They have not dominated anybody lately( or scheduled Mac for a football game).  Facilities do not always translate in to wins, but I guess they can't hurt a team either. There are more components than facilties to dominating a conference year in an year out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 18, 2007, 08:23:02 AM
 IMO, I believe it`s easier to have everything when the program is a constant winner.. Just look around D-3 at some of the facilities that are out there.  Mount Union comes to mind.  Don`t forget well heeled Alumni.
   AS far as the IBFC (and others) goes,  football is a "tool" for enrollment
   which translates into operational monies for that school. I`d venture to say capital improvements don`t include much  football related stuff.
    One of the biggest problems for the smaller colleges is enrollment and turn out at sports activities. Football in this case.
     They would be hard pressed to have a state of the art football facility
     with an enrollment of 498 at Greenville or 615 at Mac.  Just examples .
     Enrollment+winning program+Admin backing+ Well heeled Alumni+ community involvement = a better chance at a getting football facility.
    One other key element..............this is D-3.  Not D-1 where monies are funneled back to the football program to expand or do what ever is needed
   to up-grade their program. 
   So I guess, hope for more but be thankful for what you have fits in here somewhere.   :)
   
   


       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 18, 2007, 09:02:30 AM
Da one, and others are right the talent level in the IBFC these days is in some cases pathetic.  Half of these teams look like high school teams.  It is really dissappointing to look at some of these teams and think "they represent this conference??? The conference some of us took great pride in playing in."  It is a far cry from the old AU's and Mac's.

It is clearly a lateral move for the IBFC going to the NAC. Losing two reacently terrible teams in Mac and EC, and gaining to terrible teams in Wisconsin Lutheran and Rockford. 

CUC is the only team making real upgrades in talent, but they still have a ways to go.  CUW is a product of great coaching.  They have remained fairly steady in talent but have lost considerable size. 

LC has been pretty steady also for a few years, but look nothing like two to five years ago.

Its always been obvious that public school have an easier time recruiting because of tuition and state funding.  It allows them to have great facilities and large enrollments.  I don't  believe they have a better education, however, they can offer more programs and resources. 

Hopefully it is just a down period and these schools pick it up and we don't continue the trend of the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 18, 2007, 11:06:02 AM
FalcsFB-
I pretty much agree with everything you just said.  I would just like to point out the irony in referring to the private schools as the poor getting poorer.  They got all of my money, they sure as hell better not be getting poorer.   Sorry that just struck me as comical.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 18, 2007, 11:49:09 AM
Predictions for 10-20-07

GC@MAC, GC 56-7,  To much GC QB, Mac's def. will have their hands full.

BU@Eureka, BU-10-7, Defenses will dominate the game. BU on a streak and it continues.

CUC@AU, AU21-20, The question for this game is how AU will bounce back. If they have their rushing game they will move the ball easily and score on big plays. If AU does not bounce back they will have big trouble with CUC. CUC has some Offensive athletes and will move the ball and score. AU must play physical.

LC@CUW, Upset special LC28-26, The only way for an upset is LC cannot have any turnovers or penalities that kill drives and play swarming defense (bend but not break). CUW on paper is the better team but in rival games you never know. They are similar to both UWW and UWO but do not have a QB with their skills. Their running attack is almost as good as the two state schools. A BIG challenge for the Fish.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 18, 2007, 04:41:18 PM
Haha yeah I realized that as I typed it but wasn't really sure how else to say it.  It does seem like an oxymoron, but I think at the collegiate level private schools really are the poor ones.  Sure they charge upwards of 20,000 dollars a year in tuition, but that is because they don't get any help from the Government.  If they decide to give out scholarships to kids it comes out of their pockets. 

Don't get me wrong, they certainly aren't losing any money, but they are be forced to spend it on other projects.  Funds are allocated in a totally different way at those schools.  Go Falcons
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 19, 2007, 07:47:26 AM
  Saturday, Oct 20th.

  (1)  CU-C at Aurora:  CU-C hasn`t had this many wins in some time and a win against Aurora would surly bring the Believers back form where ever they went.  They, the Believers want to sing the fight song so badly but it`s not going to happen.
   I just can`t bring myself to think Aurora can`t beat the Cougars, so with that being said and Aurora being at home, The Cougars get to hear AU
  sing at the end of a close game.
(2) Greenville at MacMurray, the school of higher learning: Greenville has 1
     conference win while Team MENSA, has a streak of their own on the line.
    Playing at home (Mac) I`m thinking their streak will continue and Greenville gets to sing their fight song to  Team MENSA.
  (3) Benedictine at Eureka:  BU  should win this one but you never know
      when playing against The Red Devils. I think they hang tough
      but in the end, the Red Devil band relents and plays  the BU fight song.
  (4)  The Baby Cheese Heads at the home of the Boys from Mequon:
       This is the ............ALL IN Moment!    Both teams put their 4-0 conference record in the middle of the field  and who ever wins pretty much gets the spoils..........the Championship. 
     With this much on the line,fans and foe alike should see a good game.
      LC is not the team of old but CU-W seems to have the horses needed
     to finish the job. Plus, They have a decent FG kicker.
     THe Boys from Mequon, playing in front of their fans will negate any noise from the bus load of cheese balls, who came to watch, and win in
    convincing fashion.
     Maddog will be there in spirit only as his schedule calls for him to pressure wash the loading dock at the old Tucker Plant.   ;D
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ClassyCoach on October 19, 2007, 06:29:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edfdq-GpzAc

I think everybody should see this.  MacMurray's Coaching at his finest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 19, 2007, 07:10:26 PM
That video and that attitude are EXACTLY why people on this board, and people around the conference talk crap about macmurray.  You can talk all you want about how the grades are improving and the institution is becoming better, and that is all tremendous, because your right at this level the game is not the students entire life, they are there to get an education.  But this is a football message board where football issues are discussed (usually), and when it comes to Highlanders football.....Well I can not respect that program or its coaches until they can prove themselves worthy of that respect.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 19, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
Quote from: cudub on October 19, 2007, 07:10:26 PM
That video and that attitude are EXACTLY why people on this board, and people around the conference talk crap about macmurray.  You can talk all you want about how the grades are improving and the institution is becoming better, and that is all tremendous, because your right at this level the game is not the students entire life, they are there to get an education.  But this is a football message board where football issues are discussed (usually), and when it comes to Highlanders football.....Well I can not respect that program or its coaches until they can prove themselves worthy of that respect.
lets be clear on why people talk crap about any school on this board.  They do it when teams are down. Nobody ever said anything like this when Mac was dominating the conference(or any other team when their winning). Its easy to point the finger when your school is winning and another school is not.  You have a point with the video(if it was intentional, could have been protecting himself, who knows) But the fact of the matter is people were talking crap about Mac before this video came out. Besides who needs respect from CUW fans. Do you not have more to focus on or to  play for than a video from a CUW vs. Mac game?  Check your history of your players and coaches character (cedric simmons) before you call someone else out.  Just worry about winning the IBFC, and attempting to look respectable in the post-season, or your season was waste like any other team from the IBFC. Do something about that. Worry about getting respect from outside this conference before giving repsect to Mac.  Face reality, your bashing and self patting on the back is only credible within the walls of the IBFC because nobody else in the nation cares until the IBFC does something to a great team from outside this conference.  Whats more important bashing a Mac team that everyone knows is down(captain obvious), or talking about more important issues like the respectability of this conference which currently does not exist.

Respond to me!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 19, 2007, 09:37:25 PM
I would like you to show me when/where I said anything about CUW and their respectability?  Nowhere, I have been speaking solely on the MacMurray program.  And no, I am not "kicking them when they are down".  I'm just kicking them at a time when they happen to be down.  This is the first year I have felt the ability to post on this board because before I was still affiliated with my team.  Do you see me on here talking smack about Euereka or Blackburn?  Or about GC having a down year?  I can not speak for mac in it's hay day, i was not around at that point.  Im speaking in the last 4-5 years, in my experiences, they are a dirty football team.  That is a fact.  And I would also like to point out that your best argument is talking crap about CUW, not defending your own school.  And your right, this conference is a joke at this point, but CUW at least went 10-0 and hosted a playoff game, CUW beat several non-conference teams in the last couple of years, and CUW goes about there business with class (as do most of the teams in the IBFC).  I don't want to get into an argument about CUW, because its not worth it, but all i will say is that we are doing more by going 7-3, in terms of respect, than you are by going 0-10.  But I would just like to say one more time, NOT ONCE have I spoke badly of MacMurray college's football abilities on the field.  I have only commented on their sportsmanship (or lack thereof).  I went to a high school that went 0-9 i know what its like, and it sucks, trust me i know.  But we still played the game correctly. 


ps.  "maybe the coach was defending himself"???  Really come on, that just hurts you credibility.  I used to have to "defend myself" against the sled in practice.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 19, 2007, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: ClassyCoach on October 19, 2007, 06:29:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edfdq-GpzAc

I think everybody should see this.  MacMurray's Coaching at his finest.

Just so everyone knows, this incident was dealt with and that coach no longer coaches for the MacMurray program.  He was let go after the incident. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 19, 2007, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: cudub on October 19, 2007, 09:37:25 PM
I would like you to show me when/where I said anything about CUW and their respectability?  Nowhere, I have been speaking solely on the MacMurray program.  And no, I am not "kicking them when they are down".  I'm just kicking them at a time when they happen to be down.  This is the first year I have felt the ability to post on this board because before I was still affiliated with my team.  Do you see me on here talking smack about Euereka or Blackburn?  Or about GC having a down year?  I can not speak for mac in it's hay day, i was not around at that point.  Im speaking in the last 4-5 years, in my experiences, they are a dirty football team.  That is a fact.  And I would also like to point out that your best argument is talking crap about CUW, not defending your own school.  And your right, this conference is a joke at this point, but CUW at least went 10-0 and hosted a playoff game, CUW beat several non-conference teams in the last couple of years, and CUW goes about there business with class (as do most of the teams in the IBFC).  I don't want to get into an argument about CUW, because its not worth it, but all i will say is that we are doing more by going 7-3, in terms of respect, than you are by going 0-10.  But I would just like to say one more time, NOT ONCE have I spoke badly of MacMurray college's football abilities on the field.  I have only commented on their sportsmanship (or lack thereof).  I went to a high school that went 0-9 i know what its like, and it sucks, trust me i know.  But we still played the game correctly. 


ps.  "maybe the coach was defending himself"???  Really come on, that just hurts you credibility.  I used to have to "defend myself" against the sled in practice.
Who are you getting repsect from by going 7-3? Nobody outside the IBFC takes that  record serious. That hurts your credibility.  If your happy with being just the best in the IBFC then  more power to you. I would think that your pre-season goals begin with a conference championship and end with a deep run through the playoffs. If not then then your just wasting time. That was my mentality as a player.  Mac also once went 10-0. Like I have said before that means nothing unless you win a playoff game. Your comment about hosting a playoff game, that only means you were supposed to win and you didn't.  That also hurts your credibility.  For the record, I was not trashing CUW just pointing out that their background has blemishes like anyone else.  You said you  were speaking solely on the Mac Program.  What is there to say that everyone on this message board does not already know? To me that post was a shot at Mac. My opinion. Your facts are wrong about Mac though, they may have had a dirty "player" but he does not represent the whole team. Of course I am going to defend my school.  Any alumni with pride would. If you read my earlier posts I also point my schools flaws. As always you are entitled to your opinion but when you state so called "facts" make sure they are that, facts and not opinions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 19, 2007, 11:22:40 PM
As I said before, im not trying to make this an argument about CUW, because...well just because i dont really want to get into that argument right now.  There not perfect, i know that, everyone knows that.  But, i know firsthand, and from other players from IBFC teams that coaches "practice" playing macmurray.  That practice includes the scout team talking trash, and taking cheap shots at the starters.  Starters have to practice just waking away.  Now, I just don't see a coach doing that to his team just for the hell of it. 


(and just for the record, if winning conference means absolutely nothing, then why is there even an Illini-badger football conference? why dont they just turn it into an Intramural deal?)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 19, 2007, 11:36:36 PM
Quote from: cudub on October 19, 2007, 11:22:40 PM
As I said before, im not trying to make this an argument about CUW, because...well just because i dont really want to get into that argument right now.  There not perfect, i know that, everyone knows that.  But, i know firsthand, and from other players from IBFC teams that coaches "practice" playing macmurray.  That practice includes the scout team talking trash, and taking cheap shots at the starters.  Starters have to practice just waking away.  Now, I just don't see a coach doing that to his team just for the hell of it. 


(and just for the record, if winning conference means absolutely nothing, then why is there even an Illini-badger football conference? why dont they just turn it into an Intramural deal?)
I didnt say it meant nothing, but it should not be your only goal.  Because, for the most part, the level of the competition is nothing to brag about. As a player you have no choice in which conference your school plays in.  But if the conference is weak then prove your a good team by beating playoff teams from other conferences.  When I played at Mac we did not get it done outside the conference either.  My argument is against people bragging about something they no reason bragging about.  Set your goals higher(all teams in the IBFC).  Get that playoff win for the IBFC before it is disbanded.  It will not erase the years of inferiority, but at least be a step in the right direction for the school that does it heading into their new conference.  If Mac is not in the playoffs then I root for the team from the IBFC.  The truth sometimes hurts!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 19, 2007, 11:44:06 PM
I more or less agree with most of the things you just said.  However.....Ive said on each post, im not hellbent on discussing the falcons or the reputation of the conference.  And I notice you had no response for my last comments on mac?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 19, 2007, 11:46:10 PM
I meant to end that last post the same way you ended yours.  Regarding macmurray......im not saying they were always dirty, or that they were not a proud, talented program, but now..... Sometimes the truth hurts
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 20, 2007, 04:50:40 AM
Just for note, Cedric Simmons was let go from the school and team after certain things happened.  He wasn't a bad person really and worked hard, played through injuries and such.  Just made mistakes.  CUW has had situations in that past and has handled them properly.  Such as having some key players suspended during the Lakeland CUW game last year.  We also have all sport drug testing here at CUW.  All sports and all participants can be tested not only during season, but also in off season.  Football does multiple grade checks during the year.  Also, any on campus problems that occur involving athletes is reported to the head coach of that sport. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2007, 07:14:28 AM
Quote from: ClassyCoach on October 19, 2007, 06:29:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edfdq-GpzAc

I think everybody should see this.  MacMurray's Coaching at his finest.

  Woody Hayes,  head football coach at Ohio State back in the day hit a player from the opposing team while a play was in progress as well.
   That discretion along with other problems that were brewing at OSU
    got the ball rolling for his removal.
  Does anybody know who the coach at fault was? 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 20, 2007, 12:38:33 PM
classy coach
Thanks for the video about macmurrays coach. Wonder what macinsidelady has to say about that?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2007, 04:26:19 PM
 Aurora...35                         D-3 scoreboard
The Cougars...13  3rd                                                 


Benedictine...14
Eureka...........6    Half
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2007, 04:36:31 PM
Up-date on the Aurora ............Cougar game.
    The score is now AU--42. The Cougars...13, in the 4th.

    The fans are starting to hum the Aurora fight song and the "Believers"
     bus  just turned into a pumpkin.   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 20, 2007, 04:37:21 PM
Lakeland- 20                         11:00 left in the 4th
CUW - 14



One hell of a game so far.  Everyone talked about how to beat concordia, but i didnt believe any IBFC teams had the talent to do it.  LC is very good, and this game is going to go down to the wire.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 20, 2007, 04:43:43 PM
CUW drives from the lakeland 40.....

CUW 21
LC- 20               8:50 remaining
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 20, 2007, 04:47:09 PM
holy lord....

Mcarthur White (LC returnman).....
85 yard kickoff return for touchdown

LC 28 (converted 2 pt conversion)
CUW 21


8:40 remaining
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 20, 2007, 04:58:20 PM
CUW ties it up

LC- 28
CUW-28        4:30 left

Pacchioli (falcon's QB is apparantley hurt on the sideline)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 20, 2007, 05:13:54 PM
Concordia picks off a Wilks pass, and punches it in for 7.

CUW- 35
Lakeland- 28                  Final



CUW keeps the cheese trophy.  What a game, best one ive seen heard all year.  Lakeland is damn good, they deserve props.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 20, 2007, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2007, 07:14:28 AM
Quote from: ClassyCoach on October 19, 2007, 06:29:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edfdq-GpzAc

I think everybody should see this.  MacMurray's Coaching at his finest.

  Woody Hayes,  head football coach at Ohio State back in the day hit a player from the opposing team while a play was in progress as well.
   That discretion along with other problems that were brewing at OSU
    got the ball rolling for his removal.
  Does anybody know who the coach at fault was? 
 

Does his name really matter.  All i am going to say is that it was former player for MacMurray, but as i said before, he has been released from the coaching staff.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2007, 07:28:13 PM
Quote from: NCAA Football on October 20, 2007, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2007, 07:14:28 AM
Quote from: ClassyCoach on October 19, 2007, 06:29:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edfdq-GpzAc

I think everybody should see this.  MacMurray's Coaching at his finest.

  Woody Hayes,  head football coach at Ohio State back in the day hit a player from the opposing team while a play was in progress as well.
   That discretion along with other problems that were brewing at OSU
    got the ball rolling for his removal.
  Does anybody know who the coach at fault was? 
 

Does his name really matter.  All i am going to say is that it was former player for MacMurray, but as i said before, he has been released from the coaching staff.

   Hey, it was just a question. No need to get all bent out of shape.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: catch22 on October 20, 2007, 08:20:28 PM
Another score just in

Greenville 42  MacMurray 12
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 20, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
Quote from: catch22 on October 20, 2007, 08:20:28 PM
Another score just in

Greenville 42  MacMurray 12

Just something else Cudub will bash Mac for.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 20, 2007, 11:01:14 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2007, 07:28:13 PM
Quote from: NCAA Football on October 20, 2007, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 20, 2007, 07:14:28 AM
Quote from: ClassyCoach on October 19, 2007, 06:29:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edfdq-GpzAc

I think everybody should see this.  MacMurray's Coaching at his finest.

  Woody Hayes,  head football coach at Ohio State back in the day hit a player from the opposing team while a play was in progress as well.
   That discretion along with other problems that were brewing at OSU
    got the ball rolling for his removal.
  Does anybody know who the coach at fault was? 
 

Does his name really matter.  All i am going to say is that it was former player for MacMurray, but as i said before, he has been released from the coaching staff.

   Hey, it was just a question. No need to get all bent out of shape.

Don't worry Gomer, I just thought that the most relevant point was that he is no longer at mac anymore.  wasnttrying to degrade your post or anything.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 20, 2007, 11:04:17 PM
Quote from: catch22 on October 20, 2007, 08:20:28 PM
Another score just in

Greenville 42  MacMurray 12

it actually wasnt that bad of a game for mac.  i know it sounds bad, but there was a point in the second quarter where they were within a 14-12 score.  Mac actually moved the ball pretty well at times, bu they just could not get that consistency like a veteran team could.  Mac did play very hard though, they just could not stay consistent.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 21, 2007, 07:02:45 AM
NCAA Football:

   Understand,  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 21, 2007, 07:21:31 AM
 The CU-W vs Baby Cheese Heads game was what one would expect from
  two teams, un-defeated in conference play and the championship on the
   line. 
   CU-W wins out and their off and running to the NCAA play-offs.  It sounds
     like LC  stepped up to the plate but The Boys from Mequon were just
     better when they had to be. 
     The big question now is who will they draw for the play-offs and will the
    IBC champs finally break the ice and get that coveted 1st play-off win.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 21, 2007, 09:48:13 AM
2008 Northern Athletics Conference Football Schedules are now up:

Just thought I'd let fans of the schools who'll be transferring into NAthCon for 2008 know:

the link for next season's schedules is:

http://northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2007_10/20071017a.html

(given the off-season, I don't know how soon Pat will want to set up a separate NAthCon football board.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 21, 2007, 10:41:18 AM
Congrats to the CUW Falcons.

A great game that came down to a couple of mistakes. This game was like a heavy weight boxing match. Toe to Toe and alot of big punches. Great Job by both teams. Looks like GC has found their team and ready to finish strong. AU bounces back in a big way and the BU defense shuts down Euerka. Good luck to all in next weeks games.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 21, 2007, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: FMR IBFC Champ on October 20, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
Quote from: catch22 on October 20, 2007, 08:20:28 PM
Another score just in

Greenville 42  MacMurray 12

Just something else Cudub will bash Mac for.


Dude really?  Way to be mature about it.  Plus, I have stated several times, and even went back and read all of my posts, I have NEVER talked sh** about there talent on the football field.  You seriously need to read things before you make dumb comments.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GC_MC0509 on October 21, 2007, 07:42:41 PM
About the mac game...I know the scoreboard tells who won the game but if a scoreboard showed the progress a team was making, mac would be ok. These guys are starting to pick it up. Just some little mistakes here and there. They can be explosive when they get going. Watch out for #28 Tristan Jones! Mac will win out and go 3-7. I have faith in this "freshman" team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 21, 2007, 08:35:39 PM
Quote from: cudub on October 21, 2007, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: FMR IBFC Champ on October 20, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
Quote from: catch22 on October 20, 2007, 08:20:28 PM
Another score just in

Greenville 42  MacMurray 12

Just something else Cudub will bash Mac for.
CuDub,
Why don't you just relax a little bit.  Just a little friendly trash talking.  Don't be an internet thug!!!

Dude really?  Way to be mature about it.  Plus, I have stated several times, and even went back and read all of my posts, I have NEVER talked sh** about there talent on the football field.  You seriously need to read things before you make dumb comments.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 21, 2007, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: GC_MC0509 on October 21, 2007, 07:42:41 PM
About the mac game...I know the scoreboard tells who won the game but if a scoreboard showed the progress a team was making, mac would be ok. These guys are starting to pick it up. Just some little mistakes here and there. They can be explosive when they get going. Watch out for #28 Tristan Jones! Mac will win out and go 3-7. I have faith in this "freshman" team.

Well said.  I believe this team can win out. They just have to stay consistent throughout the rest of the game, and play well all four quarters.  They have the ablity to get it done, and i hope they do.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 21, 2007, 08:46:43 PM
Quote from: GC_MC0509 on October 21, 2007, 07:42:41 PM
About the mac game...I know the scoreboard tells who won the game but if a scoreboard showed the progress a team was making, mac would be ok. These guys are starting to pick it up. Just some little mistakes here and there. They can be explosive when they get going. Watch out for #28 Tristan Jones! Mac will win out and go 3-7. I have faith in this "freshman" team.
I appreciate the insight on the Mac progress. Have not made it to a game yet because of geography.  Although winning out would be great, I think it is more wishfull thinking at this point.  Big thing for Mac(and I have said this before)is to retain these young Freshmen for next year. That has been, in my opinion, one of the biggest reasons why Mac has declined recently. Lets get these kids eligible, in the new weight room and restore the pride that Mac players once had. I have a lot of respect for Sweeney, as a person,taking this job knowing that the Mac admin has a lot of things to resolve.  It would be easy to pack it up and head somewhere else after the season. Hope that does not happen. Keep choppin Mac!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on October 21, 2007, 11:29:48 PM
Well, it was homecoming weekend for Mac, so I actually got to see a game.  Most people have said it, but the scoreboard doesn't do justice.  It was 14-12 with just about 6-7 minutes left in the 2nd before it got away, but their first half offense looked really good.  They have a really tall quarterback, and the O-Line is blocking better then I've seen in a few years.  I think the defense just gets tired, but they laid some good hits out.  Coverage seemed weak, but GC dropped a lot of passes so the score could have been higher (not a dig on GC, just something I noticed...lots of times had a guy wide open and was either dropped or a hair overthrown).  Nonetheless, good first half, dissapointing second half.

Just a note...I talked to a friend of mine at Mac and was informed that as soon as that incident with the coach happened, he was suspended indefinitely.  I guess the CUW coach didn't really care that it happened, but the Mac coach wasn't going to accept it on his sidelines. 

I hope Mac can win out like everyone claims could happen, I don't think it's realistic but I can definitely see them punch one victory in.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 22, 2007, 07:47:55 AM
Somebody said Mac was going to win out and go 3-7.  Could that happen?
   Sure. Will that happen?  No.
   Mac plays Benedictine this saturday.  Some facts are as follows.
    Mac is 0-7, that`s fact.  BU is 4-4 over-all and has beaten Greenville 10-7
    who just beat Mac 42-12!  They (BU) also beat Aurora who beat the snot
    out of Mac to the tune of 47-0!
    This will be a home game for BU as well and they are on the move up-
     ward (tied for 3rd in the IBC) while Mac Is dead last. 
   Mac scores on average 6 + points per game and gives up almost 48. You can`t win many games with those stats.
    Enthusiasm and school pride aside, conventional wisdom says The
    Highlanders end up 0-8 after their visit to Lisle, Ill. 
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 22, 2007, 09:48:03 AM
Quote from: FMR IBFC Champ on October 21, 2007, 08:46:43 PM
Quote from: GC_MC0509 on October 21, 2007, 07:42:41 PM
About the mac game...I know the scoreboard tells who won the game but if a scoreboard showed the progress a team was making, mac would be ok. These guys are starting to pick it up. Just some little mistakes here and there. They can be explosive when they get going. Watch out for #28 Tristan Jones! Mac will win out and go 3-7. I have faith in this "freshman" team.
I appreciate the insight on the Mac progress. Have not made it to a game yet because of geography.  Although winning out would be great, I think it is more wishfull thinking at this point.  Big thing for Mac(and I have said this before)is to retain these young Freshmen for next year. That has been, in my opinion, one of the biggest reasons why Mac has declined recently. Lets get these kids eligible, in the new weight room and restore the pride that Mac players once had. I have a lot of respect for Sweeney, as a person,taking this job knowing that the Mac admin has a lot of things to resolve.  It would be easy to pack it up and head somewhere else after the season. Hope that does not happen. Keep choppin Mac!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keeping those kids will definitely be key, especially the ones that are getting to see PT now.  Hopefully Sweeney's staff can do a good job of developing them as they gain more experience.  Didn't know there was a new weight room, about time they did something about it..  I can see them paying with Eureka (no disrespect intended to Eureka) & hopefully Blackburn (I was on the team with mac_7_seven that still is in fact the only team to get beat by the Beavers), but I agree with Gomer in that BU has some things going for them right now..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 22, 2007, 10:52:40 AM
Gomer, you were talking about the stats for BU and how they have beaten AU and Greenville. 

This is why I thought CUC had a chance against AU, since CUC beat BU and BU beat AU.  But who knows what is going on with them (CUC). 

Someone was talking about retaining freshman at MAC.  CUC has had a problem with retaining players (and coaches) for the past 6 years, maybe even longer then that.  Freshman need to stick around for a team to be successfull in the coming years.  Hopefully they stick around at MAC and at CUC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 22, 2007, 11:56:21 AM
baseman201:
     To me the biggest factor in that win over Benedictine was CU-C
      had them at their house plus, BU had Aurora at their house. 
      This past saturday Aurora was at home againt the Cougars. 
      See a pattern here ?   All things being equal, home field advantage
      (crowd,band(?) noise) hard to beat. 
    Just a comment on the 2nd paragraph of your post.   :)                  
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GC_MC0509 on October 22, 2007, 02:02:20 PM
Maybe it is wishful thinking...but this seems to be a board where people like to predict so...my prediction is that MAC wins out. If they don't then they don't, I'll be wrong. The freshman need to stay at MAC in order to be successful in the next couple years. They're talented, but young. Even if they finish 0-10 this year, I'll be proud of the men who stuck it out and came out to play every saturday even if it was a blowout. Sweeney can only do things to an extent. It's the players who have to execute. But when the numbers are small, a coach cant do much but bite his/her lip and take the bumps.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 22, 2007, 03:34:53 PM
GC_MC0509;

IMO, Mac must keep their group together and at the same time bring another class in that is as good or better, for the next few years. Strive for 90% retention and keep the talent coming. Then the job begins to get the kids to mature, become good citizens and students. If they can keep this up then they should be a contender in the SLIAC. The only fly in the oinment could come from the administration. These people have to support the program in a much better way in the future or the job will not be a good one and the coaches and athletes will leave.

Good Luck to Mac and its followers.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lineman79 on October 22, 2007, 04:07:06 PM
Does anyone know what happened on the Benedictine sideline following the game against Eureka this past weekend? As I was leaving I noticed a EC fan being restrained by the coaches and a police officer with shouting going on between the EC fan and a few Ben fans. Any info?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 22, 2007, 05:48:52 PM
I had not heard anything about that.  Was it in Eureka?  I will say that the Red Devil's little end zone crew is entertaining to say the least.  I would not be suprised if one of them got some liquid courage and something happened.

My personal favorite quote from the eureka fans was "hey Kicker, XX is a stupid number for a kicker" followed by tons of laughter from his comrades.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on October 22, 2007, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: cudub on October 22, 2007, 05:48:52 PM
I had not heard anything about that.  Was it in Eureka?  I will say that the Red Devil's little end zone crew is entertaining to say the least.  I would not be suprised if one of them got some liquid courage and something happened.

My personal favorite quote from the eureka fans was "hey Kicker, XX is a stupid number for a kicker" followed by tons of laughter from his comrades.

I remember my senior year there being a guy dressed in a full out Superman get up sitting amongst their end zone crew.  Hard not to chuckle every time I saw him..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lineman79 on October 22, 2007, 07:33:51 PM
Yes it was in Eureka. Looked like an EC parent and a bunch of BU fans. Not sure of anything else since I was on the other side of the field talking with some friends. There used to be a lot of fans in the endzone but those days have come and gone...for now hopefully!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GC_MC0509 on October 22, 2007, 08:41:15 PM
Old 40,

          Yeah I agree. MAC needs to keep this group together. I think with a little more maturity they could be a good team...now I mean good team as in winning games. I know there was someone posting that MAC was a dirty team. That may have been years past but I know I have seen a change since Sweeney has been HC. You're also right when you say the administration are the only ones who can flub this up. I think with the new President, the program is covered. But then again, who knows! MAC will be on top with Sweeney running things. It will just take time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FMR IBFC Champ on October 22, 2007, 09:32:23 PM
Quote from: GC_MC0509 on October 22, 2007, 08:41:15 PM
Old 40,

          Yeah I agree. MAC needs to keep this group together. I think with a little more maturity they could be a good team...now I mean good team as in winning games. I know there was someone posting that MAC was a dirty team. That may have been years past but I know I have seen a change since Sweeney has been HC. You're also right when you say the administration are the only ones who can flub this up. I think with the new President, the program is covered. But then again, who knows! MAC will be on top with Sweeney running things. It will just take time.
I agree, the Administartion has to support the program or it won't matter what Sweeney does. Hopefully this SID works out, they have had some incompetent people handling this job in the past.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 24, 2007, 07:03:32 PM
Well, it's been pretty quiet on the board lately, so I'm gonna put my picks up. 

Mac vs. Benedictine - I think this will be a low scoring game, even though all of Macs opponents have put 40 + up on them this year.  i think Mac can play with these guys as well, but in the end it all comes down to home field advantage. 

Sorry Mac, but BU takes this one 20-12

AU vs. Eureka - Not much to say about this one.

AU rolls 48-6

CUC vs. Lakelad - After a tough loss last week, I think Lakeland comes back strong against an improving CUC team. 

Lakeland by a couple td's 35-20

Last but not least, CUW vs. Greenville - CUW may have a bit taken out of them after a hard fought game last weekend, but i think it is safe to say we aren't gonna get the 14-7 overtime thriller we had last year. 

CUW is gonna come out this weekend and take care of the Panthers 42-7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on October 24, 2007, 11:03:12 PM
I've never made picks on here before, but why not, just for kicks?

Mac v. BU- I agree that Mac took a step forward last week, and I'll even venture to say they make a close game out of it, but I still don't see them winning except maybe against Blackburn- defense spends too much time on the field.

BU- 35  Mac- 12

AU v. Eureka- I'll take a wild guess that AU doesn't have to try too hard for this one.

AU- 49  Eur-10

CUC v. Lakeland- CUC is a decent team, Lakeland obviously knows how to hang with the best of them, I'll say Lakeland but it goes down to the wire.

CUC- 21 Lake- 28

CUW v. GC- Greenville showed it can handle the weaker teams, but the way it handled Mac in the first and second quarters wasn't very impressive. CUW rolls.

CUW- 52 GC-10
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 25, 2007, 10:48:37 AM
Predictions for 10-27-07

BU over MAC, 17-7, If Mac can move the ball they may keep BU from scoring 17. Defense dominates this game.

AU over Eureka, 31-14, AU to strong on Defense and the run game. Eureka will cause problems early.

CUW over GC, 41-14, CUW moves and controls the ball. Big plays allows them to score. If their Defense shuts down the GC QB then GC fails to score.

LC over CUC, 42-21, Should be alot of passing. CUC may struggle with the speed of LC defense.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on October 25, 2007, 12:13:31 PM
Well haven't posted on here since GC lost to 3 straight games and all hope was lost for a IBFC conf. crown after losing to LC, AU, and BC. 

So maybe since I'm getting married this Saturday, GC can get a win against CUW.   

AU vs EC  - AU wins 38- 12

CUC vs LC - LC wins 28-14

BU vs MAC -  BU wins 35-13

CUW @ GC -  GC wins close one 17-14


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 25, 2007, 03:34:11 PM
Does anyone smarter than I, have ideas for who CUW (or whoever wins the IBFC) will be playing first round of the playoffs?  I know nobody knows for sure, but what are the options looking like at this point?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: matblake on October 25, 2007, 03:51:03 PM
Quote from: cudub on October 25, 2007, 03:34:11 PM
Does anyone smarter than I, have ideas for who CUW (or whoever wins the IBFC) will be playing first round of the playoffs?  I know nobody knows for sure, but what are the options looking like at this point?

If you had to take a stab at it I would probably say the CCIW Pool A Qualifier.  In 2005 Augustana beat Lakeland in the first round, in 2006 North Central beat CUW in the first round.  So recently that would be the trend.  However, in 2004 Aurora went to Wooster and in 2003 CUW played LaCrosse. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 25, 2007, 08:59:38 PM
cudub;

IMO, if the region standings stay the way they are, I would think the NCAA has CUW at Wheaton and MIAA champ at Mt. Union. Currently Mount and Wheaton are #1 and #2. If Wheaton would lose maybe CUW goes to Wabash or Mount.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2007, 07:54:21 AM
 This saturdays games don`t hold much in the way of excitement. CU-W
   has the championship in hand. The Believers have jumped ship. Greenville
   never got out of the gate as some thought. Benedictine has surprised
   some people. Eureka is just being Eureka. The Highlanders are heading down a slippery slope.
    (1)  Aurora @ Eureka: Aurora
     (2)  CU-W @ Greenville.  CU-W....Those that think GC is going to
     win,don`t forget your  twinkies.
    (3)   CU-C @ Cheese-ville :   Maddog smiles
    (4)  MacMurray @ Benedictine :  Guess who`s going to be 0-8.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Boss on October 26, 2007, 11:24:06 AM
Does Anyone give CUC a chance against Lakeland?  I personally think that it will be real difficult for them.  CUC has not played good on the road this year.  It seems that they are a totally different team at home on their turf field.  Last weekend they never showed up against Aurora and if they play like that this week the game will be over by half time.  I just don't know if they can put together one full solid game of football on the road right now.  They played a great 1/2 of football with CUW but that was at home.  I think the weather is going to be bad or at least some rain and possibly sloppy.  That will not be good for CUC either as it is difficult to run the spread in sloppy weather.  It probably will not happen but I was looking for that one game this week where there might be an upset. 

What do you all think?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 27, 2007, 10:06:03 AM
We believers haven't left this board yet at all.  I have just been really busy lately, but here I am now,  ;D

Anyway, I am really disapointed with the way CUC has played so far.  I expected a lot more from them this year.  But they are young, so hopefully most of the team sticks around for the 2008 season. 

I honestly thought they had a great chance to knock off 1 or 2 of the better teams in the conference this year.    I mean they played the playoff bound (most likely) CUW to only 3-0 at halftime.  Of course then the rest of the game went South but it kind of showed that they can hang with some of the better teams.

So to answer Boss, they do have a chance in any game, but they just never pull it out.  If it's raining then both teams may have to run a lot.  CUC has an excellent running back in Copeland, not sure who Lakeland has in the backfield?  So maybe that could play a big part. 

So I think Lakeland wins, but it's closer then most people think this time around, maybe just a touchdown.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 27, 2007, 06:18:33 PM
LC vs. CUC - 56-7 LC
CUW vs. GC - 44-13 GC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 27, 2007, 07:39:32 PM
Greenville played great today... oh and by the way gomer the twinkies were great!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on October 27, 2007, 10:41:28 PM
Yes Gomer the Twinkies were good today in Greenville. I finally got to a GC game, and was not expecting what I saw.

CUW was never really in the ball game. Scored one offensive TD in the 1st
half, to trail 21-7 at half. Run 2nd half kick off back to close to 21-14, but never really threatened after that. With the fianl GC 44 - CUW 14.

Unable to move ball at all. Several turnovers for CUW, led to their demise.
From what I have read on Greenville and what I seen today, They just waited to long to get it all together for this year.

Greenville had to have over 500 yards of offense. Doubt CUW had much over 250 yards.
Greenville's QB is the best I have seen in the IBC. But have yet to see AU or CUC's QB's.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 28, 2007, 07:28:12 AM
Quote from: d3ftball1 on October 27, 2007, 07:39:32 PM
Greenville played great today... oh and by the way gomer the twinkies were great!!

  I am eating a big bowl of ..........crow.
   Great win for Greenville.  Sounds like they beat the snot out of the Boys from Mequon.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 28, 2007, 07:34:00 AM
Quote from: Timewilltell on October 27, 2007, 10:41:28 PM
Yes Gomer the Twinkies were good today in Greenville. I finally got to a GC game, and was not expecting what I saw.

CUW was never really in the ball game. Scored one offensive TD in the 1st
half, to trail 21-7 at half. Run 2nd half kick off back to close to 21-14, but never really threatened after that. With the fianl GC 44 - CUW 14.

Unable to move ball at all. Several turnovers for CUW, led to their demise.
From what I have read on Greenville and what I seen today, They just waited to long to get it all together for this year.

Greenville had to have over 500 yards of offense. Doubt CUW had much over 250 yards.
Greenville's QB is the best I have seen in the IBC. But have yet to see AU or CUC's QB's.

   Ditto on the .........crow.
   Who would have thought that Greenville had that kind of a game in them after the season they`re had?
    I`ll bet the fat lady sang the GC fight song loud and clear.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 28, 2007, 08:30:16 AM
                        Aurora: 30   Eureka: 3
                   Benedictine: 42  MacMurray: 0-8
                        Cheese Heads: 56   Believers: 7 

    Greenville gets a huge win (44-14) over CU-W. 
   
   A tie for 1st place in the IBFC: Cheese Heads and The Boys from Mequon.
   at 5-1.  At this point in time.
   The game between Benedictine and CU-W on 11/3 (at BU) could be the
    biggest game yet.
   BU wins it and The Boys from Mequon are out. That`s assuming LC wins
    their games. **
    Keep in mind LC still has to play Aurora but it`s a home game. For what
   that`s worth.  If The Cheese lose to AU, which is possible, then we`re
    back to 5-2 for the both of them.
    With that CU-W is still in the drivers seat as they beat LC.
   The fat lady sings and Maddog moves to Canada.   ;D 
   ** CU-W beats BU the above is moot as they would be 6-1.  LC wins out
   and there`re 6-1 as well but their loss to CU-W  leaves them in a tie for the IBFC championship but they don`t get the NCAA bid due to that loss
   in head up play. 
  The Fat Lady sings.......... Mequon Oh, Mequon.   :)

 
   
 
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 28, 2007, 11:33:57 AM
Congrats to GC. Great Win for your program. The GC QB is very, very dangerous and he took the wind out of the Falcons. Great Job!

Next week will be a great finishing week to the IBFC. The possibility of a four way tie is amazing.

The "Believers"  must be feeling sick today. A good try but from what I see alot of work to do. You have to remember that program was deep in the basement and will take some time to get to the top.


Good Luck to everyone's teams next week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on October 28, 2007, 03:31:42 PM
4 way tie? will never happen. I will tell you why

CUW

and

Lakeland will both win next week.

However to bad CUW will go to the playoffs, Lakeland would have better odds of winning then CUW in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cardinaldad on October 28, 2007, 08:53:26 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 28, 2007, 08:30:16 AM
                        Aurora: 30   Eureka: 3
                   Benedictine: 42  MacMurray: 0-8
                        Cheese Heads: 56   Believers: 7 

    Greenville gets a huge win (44-14) over CU-W. 
   
   A tie for 1st place in the IBFC: Cheese Heads and The Boys from Mequon.
   at 5-1.  At this point in time.
   The game between Benedictine and CU-W on 11/3 (at BU) could be the
    biggest game yet.
   BU wins it and The Boys from Mequon are out. That`s assuming LC wins
    their games. **
    Keep in mind LC still has to play Aurora but it`s a home game. For what
   that`s worth.  If The Cheese lose to AU, which is possible, then we`re
    back to 5-2 for the both of them.
    With that CU-W is still in the drivers seat as they beat LC.
   The fat lady sings and Maddog moves to Canada.   ;D 
   ** CU-W beats BU the above is moot as they would be 6-1.  LC wins out
   and there`re 6-1 as well but their loss to CU-W  leaves them in a tie for the IBFC championship but they don`t get the NCAA bid due to that loss
   in head up play. 
  The Fat Lady sings.......... Mequon Oh, Mequon.   :)

 
   
 
   
   
   

Can anyone explain the point differential scenario with a tie? Who is still in the running with some help? CUW, LC, BU? Who would be the 4th?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cardinaldad on October 28, 2007, 10:36:55 PM
Looks like BU has to beat CUW on Sat and Aurora has to win out including beating Lakeland for the tie to occur. Has anyone figured out the point differental for the AQ tie breaker? Anyones' thoughts on this happening?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 29, 2007, 01:03:02 AM
madfrog-

How does Lakeland have a better chance in the playoffs?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 29, 2007, 01:34:51 AM
you are crazy if you think lakeland has a better shot in the playoffs then cuw. lakeland has good receivers who can catch well in traffic. that is all they have offensively. protection is suspect, running game none existent, qb makes bad decisions. Defense is pretty good. Cuw has less weaknesses then lakeland. they can pass a whole lot better than lakeland can run (both of the team's weaknesses). CUW has better special teams although lakeland's are good.

now cuw most have thought they were going to show up and win against GC. it is one thing to lose but to get blown out. i guess the team d3football picked from the start finally showed up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 29, 2007, 07:20:26 AM
Cardinaldad:
     I believe .......S-O-S ( strenght of schedule) fits in there, somewhere.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 29, 2007, 09:39:59 AM
Point differential only comes into play if their is more than two or more teams tied for first.  Unless those two teams somehow lost to the same team. 

If there was a three way tie like the scenario in 04

CUW beat LC but lost to AU

LC lost to CUW but beat AU

AU lost to LC but beat CUW

it came down to the point difference that decided each game.  Whoever had the better margin of victory would go to the playoffs.  Which ended up being AU

AU won by 17 and lost by 1 so their margin was +16.

LC lost by 16 and won by 1 so they were at -15.

CUW lost by 17 and won by 16 so they were at -1

I beleive that was how it played out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on October 29, 2007, 11:01:18 AM
I think the 4 way tie scenario is pretty far fetched; however, just for fun here's another question. Is the tie breaker based solely on points or do they consider head to head victories. For example, if a four way tie existed AU and Lakeland would have 2 losses to the teams involved in the group. BU and CUW would have one loss a piece, with BU winning the head to head against CUW. In this scenario BU goes to the playoffs. Far fetched, ridiculous, I know. But is this a possibility or do tie breakers always go to points and/or margin of victory?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on October 29, 2007, 11:28:41 AM
IMO- Lakeland might fair better than CUW.
CUW was unable to stop ANY play action from the GC offense. Their secondary was keying on coming up to stop the QB run/option, that the WR's from GC was running right by them and the QB was just laying it up for them to run under.
And the GC O-Line was controlling the line of scrimage so much the LB's were forced to come up.



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on October 29, 2007, 11:48:59 AM
4 way tie means Benedictine is in
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 29, 2007, 01:01:51 PM
The current tie breaker is point difference between the tied teams from their head to head battles. This was the case when AU, LC and CUW tied. AU went to the playoffs because of their point difference as someone stated before. I do not believe this rule has changed for the IBFC. I have no idea what the rule will be for the new conference.

Based on the head to head scores of the 4 possible teams that could be tied. As of today, I believe the LC team has the best differnce in scores. Again all of this is very premature because alot of things have to happen for a 4 way tie to come about. Maybe, because it is Halloween week, the strange possibility of a 4 way tie is fun to talk about.

Good Luck to everyone's teams this week. It has been great watching some of the conference Seniors do battle. Good Luck to all the IBFC Seniors inthe final 2 weeks of the regular season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 29, 2007, 01:21:55 PM
While I don't know about the IBC rules, the general procedure is that head-to-head comes before score differential.  With 3 teams, they are typically all 1-1 against each other, so score differential is the decider.  But with 4 teams, odds are that 2 of them are 2-1 (the others, 1-2 and thus eliminated); generally it then reverts to the head-to-head of the two 2-1 teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on October 29, 2007, 07:48:34 PM
two teams would be 1-2 in games among the top4 if a tie occurs they are lakeland and AU.... BU and CUW would be 2-1 among the top 4....

BU has to beat CUW for this to happen......they take the head to head

BU wins and lakeland wins - lakeland is in
Bu wins and lakeland loses- BU is in
CUW wins they are in
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 29, 2007, 08:03:57 PM
Has BU ever made the playoffs.  Wow, if they did, that would be great, especially after their not so great start.  They have been playing well though, ever since conference play began.  Just imagine if they wouldn't have lost to CUC. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on October 30, 2007, 09:35:37 AM
I do not believe BU ever made either NCAA or NAIA playoffs.  They did have a couple 9-1 seasons (Early 70's then one in mid 80's).  Those would be the seasons they had the record deserving of going.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 30, 2007, 09:59:26 AM
Quote from: lem4094 on October 30, 2007, 09:35:37 AM
I do not believe BU ever made either NCAA or NAIA playoffs.  They did have a couple 9-1 seasons (Early 70's then one in mid 80's).  Those would be the seasons they had the record deserving of going.

  Benedictine has never won the IFBC Championship.   My source was :
   Answers.com, which went back to 1976.   
  The BU Record Book shows a 9-2 season in 1971 and 9-1 in 1986.
  Lem4094,  don`t mean to step on your toes, just want to keep it
   accurate. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on October 30, 2007, 10:51:26 AM
No worries.  I understand completely.  I was going from memory (which begins to get worse with time).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on October 30, 2007, 11:09:34 AM
While we are talking about BU, Where is all the complaining that was here earlier this year about the coaching staff?  Someone wanted Cooper's head on a plate.  Does he/she still have the same stance since the Eagles have ripped off 4 consective W's?


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 30, 2007, 12:11:56 PM
thank you lem.  i forget that guys name on this board but he has been absent for the last month, since BU went on a streak.  Tough game ahead for sure but they are definitely a confident bunch now.  the key matchup will be CUWs run defense versus BU's run offense.  After my years at BU the last 20 postings or so about BU possibily being a representative is still trying to register.  But am very proud of the guys who are still there that i played with, for sticking it out during some terrible seasons.  I think it was you LEM that pointed out the loss to CUC, which is a good point.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 30, 2007, 01:15:08 PM
No offense, and I mean I am really not trying to offend you,  but I don't think BU's offense is much of a threat for CUW's defense in the rushing game.  CUW, as usual, has been great against the run.  After Whatching BU play I don't beleive they have the talent to truly threaten CUW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cardinaldad on October 30, 2007, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on October 29, 2007, 07:48:34 PM
two teams would be 1-2 in games among the top4 if a tie occurs they are lakeland and AU.... BU and CUW would be 2-1 among the top 4....

BU has to beat CUW for this to happen......they take the head to head

BU wins and lakeland wins - lakeland is in
Bu wins and lakeland loses- BU is in
CUW wins they are in

Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on October 30, 2007, 03:24:05 PM
Falcs- sorry, but the run defense I saw Saturday at Greenville by CUW was average at best. Now, not sure if they had players missing or injured. But the one play I remember the most was a 60+ yard QB sneak right up the middle of the defense.

I bet BU will take some hints from the tape on the Greenville victory.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on October 30, 2007, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: Genius on October 29, 2007, 01:34:51 AM
you are crazy if you think lakeland has a better shot in the playoffs then cuw. lakeland has good receivers who can catch well in traffic. that is all they have offensively. protection is suspect, running game none existent, qb makes bad decisions. Defense is pretty good. Cuw has less weaknesses then lakeland. they can pass a whole lot better than lakeland can run (both of the team's weaknesses). CUW has better special teams although lakeland's are good.

now cuw most have thought they were going to show up and win against GC. it is one thing to lose but to get blown out. i guess the team d3football picked from the start finally showed up.

Crazy and Smart. Lakeland has better odds of hanging with a more dominate team than CuW does. Lakeland does not lose to below average teams like CuW manages to do. Lakeland will lose a game here and there to very tough teams out of conference(as in a carthage not talking about a UW), but would never get blown out by a Greenville team that has been struggling. Lakeland is the obvious choice to who would preform better in the playoffs. CuW could not handle UWW OR UW-Oshkosh scores would be more lopsided than the Lakeland games. CuW beat lakeland yeah thats true 35-28 at home I believe. Nothing new here Lakeland Struggles with figuring out how to stop CuW offensive game plan, been that way for a while now.

Enough with this 4way Tie BS, Benedictine can't beat Lakeland so I doubt CuW will manage to lose to another team that can't beat Lakeland. If CuW loses to Benedictine then my point will be even more clear. However still even getting a worst Team in the playoffs will be  lol first round game 70-0 Beating to whoever they play.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 30, 2007, 05:14:06 PM
Yeah I heard it wasn't very good but GC has better players at those positions than BU, that was the basis for my comment.  I also hear the problem was 9 fumbles by CUW 6 of which were lost.  that can tire a defense out and leave them more susceptable to giving up plays like that.  However, thats still no excuse. 

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 30, 2007, 05:40:24 PM
Quote from: bufan on October 30, 2007, 12:11:56 PM
thank you lem.  i forget that guys name on this board but he has been absent for the last month, since BU went on a streak.  Tough game ahead for sure but they are definitely a confident bunch now.  the key matchup will be CUWs run defense versus BU's run offense.  After my years at BU the last 20 postings or so about BU possibily being a representative is still trying to register.  But am very proud of the guys who are still there that i played with, for sticking it out during some terrible seasons.  I think it was you LEM that pointed out the loss to CUC, which is a good point.
yeah, where has "you have to be kidding me" gone.  looks like hes not paying attention to d3 football again.  anyway, BU fan, i agree that it is going to be a difficult matchup, but i think that BU can control the ball and keep their defense off of th field, they have a good chance of winning the ame, but it will definately be close.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 30, 2007, 05:46:23 PM
Quote from: Are you Kidding on September 23, 2007, 01:50:59 PM
Benedictine loses to Concordia Chicago 21-10.

So who is going to side with Jon Cooper now? He's lost to the worst team in the IBC (with the exception of Eureka). It doesn't get much worse than this. "Oh he's still building his team." Not an excuse. He's in year 3.

"Oh but NCC and Elmhurst are the #1 and #2 teams in the nation" excuse doesn't work anymore. They lost by 2 scores to a TERRIBLE team. They are also terrible.

What does Jon Cooper do all week? He does not gameplan. What does Jon Cooper do all offseason? He does not recruit good players. He's pathetic. He should be fired, as I've said all along.

If Murray and Mitchell lost their jobs for poor performance, Cooper should've been fired after yesterday's game.

Cooper came into Benedictine with an attitude. He knocked Benedictine's past teams by saying this is the "new" Benedictine" and that the "old" Benedictine had to go, the "old" Benedictine was bad, blah blah blah. Guess what? The old Benedictine was a lot better than when he came. If you're going to come into a school acting like some big shot who is going to change things, then change them...for the better, not for the worse. I'm just tired of people siding with Cooper when he has done noting but fire good coaches to bring in "his" guys, lose games, and recruit a bunch of scrubs. It's time for him to be fired or retire on his own.

Jon Cooper is proving why Aurora never hired him as a head coach. There's a reason he was an assistant for almost 20 years. It's showing right now.

Benedictine will go 1-9, maybe 2-8. That is not progress.

Benedictine administration, if you're reading this, start accepting applications, because this ship is sinking.

All i have to say is great job so far BU, you've definately surpassed that 1-9/2-8 record that you were "supposed" to finish with. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 30, 2007, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: madfrog on October 30, 2007, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: Genius on October 29, 2007, 01:34:51 AM
you are crazy if you think lakeland has a better shot in the playoffs then cuw. lakeland has good receivers who can catch well in traffic. that is all they have offensively. protection is suspect, running game none existent, qb makes bad decisions. Defense is pretty good. Cuw has less weaknesses then lakeland. they can pass a whole lot better than lakeland can run (both of the team's weaknesses). CUW has better special teams although lakeland's are good.

now cuw most have thought they were going to show up and win against GC. it is one thing to lose but to get blown out. i guess the team d3football picked from the start finally showed up.

Crazy and Smart. Lakeland has better odds of hanging with a more dominate team than CuW does. Lakeland does not lose to below average teams like CuW manages to do. Lakeland will lose a game here and there to very tough teams out of conference(as in a carthage not talking about a UW), but would never get blown out by a Greenville team that has been struggling. Lakeland is the obvious choice to who would preform better in the playoffs. CuW could not handle UWW OR UW-Oshkosh scores would be more lopsided than the Lakeland games. CuW beat lakeland yeah thats true 35-28 at home I believe. Nothing new here Lakeland Struggles with figuring out how to stop CuW offensive game plan, been that way for a while now.

Enough with this 4way Tie BS, Benedictine can't beat Lakeland so I doubt CuW will manage to lose to another team that can't beat Lakeland. If CuW loses to Benedictine then my point will be even more clear. However still even getting a worst Team in the playoffs will be  lol first round game 70-0 Beating to whoever they play.


Its not as if CUW loses to below average teams consistently, so i dont  understand that logic.  It seems as if the GC game was a bit of a fluke to me.  If you look at who CUW has lost to in the last 2 years North Central, Simpson, and GC, those teams are not bad.  Just because Lakeland gets destroyed by whitewater doesnt mean they have a better chance to beat them, im sure CUW would have gotten equally demolished.  And i dont know what the score of the LC Carthage game was, but i believe it was not close (right?).  I would say concordia put up a better fight against a better NCC team than LC did against an average CCIW team.

To me the bottom line is that the IBFC no matter who wins, is going to have a tough time in the playoffs.  Im not saying that CUW is far and away the best team, but i think they have a slightly better chance in the playoffs than does lakeland.  I say this 1. because they beat them.....seems like a logical measuring stick to me.  And 2.  Because CUW has shown (besides last weekend) that they have a very good defense, capable of shutting teams down. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on October 30, 2007, 11:08:47 PM
also, saying that lakeland "loses a few non conference games here and there" is a bit of an understatement.  They are 1-8 in non-conference games the past three years.  I understand they have played some good teams, but that does not change the fact that they are 1-8, seems to me that if they would like to build some confidence or something, maybe dont schedule ALL of your non conference games with schools that start with the letters UW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on October 31, 2007, 01:10:06 AM
madfrog,

i wouldn't say that greenville is struggling having outscored its last 4 opponents 140-50. there is probably a reason why the coaches picked them second and D3 football picked them first. CUW's fumbles took away any chance for a comeback. They were down 14 before the turnovers even began. However they started really slow. 

Your post makes it seem like lakeland dominated GC. it was a very close game, lakeland added a late TD to go up 2 scores. i looked at the stats and it was a 7 point ball game until 4:37 left lakeland scored to go up 14.

Lakeland will have their hands full this week with Aurora. I'm not sure if either offenses will do much.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 31, 2007, 08:14:03 AM
Benedictine and CU-W both played Aurora( common foe).  Benedictine won in a hard fought game in 2OT`s, 20-17.  CU-W won easily, 24-0. 
  CU-W is 6-3 over-all while BU is 5-4 over-all. Not a real big differential.
  BU gives up almost 20 points per game while scoring at a rate of about 14 per.
  CU-W on the other hand, scores almost 32 per game and gives up slightly more than 14 per. 
   Both teams have decent field goal kickers as they are 12 for 23 combined.
   Those numbers show they trust their kickers and are not afraid to go for
    3.  Could well be a factor.
  CU-W is #1 in Scoring offense while BU is #7. Total offense, BU is again
    7th while CU-W is #1.
  The Boys from Mequon got thrashed last saturday and the Eagles seem
    to have gotten their groove on.   
  The BU---CU-W game should be a good one. Lots on the line no doubt.
   Can BU win on it`s home field against a statistically better team?
    Will the crowd/band/cheer-leaders make a difference? 
  I`m going with the numbers..... stats.  They reflect a teams past
   performance, good or bad. 
   That being said and knowing BU has the Boys from Mequon at home, I like
  The Falcons, soon to be the IBFC champs.   :)
   
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on October 31, 2007, 10:16:11 PM
Well, it is midweek, and I have nothing better to do right now, so I thought I'd throw up my picks for this weekend.

Lets start off with CUC and Greenville.  Greenville has been playing the type of football that they should have been playing all year.  I don't think they can really be stopped this weekend, especially with the inconcistencies that we have seen with CUC this year. 

Sorry Believers, but Greenville takes this one big 49-14

Next we have the toilet bowl game for the conference.  Mac gets to play at home against the Red Devils from Eureka.  With both qb's being healthy this week for Mac, who knows what we will see from them, let alone which offense.  Don't really know too much about Eureka other than they play like Eureka.  I think this will be a high scoring game, considering niether teams have stellar defenses. 

But, I'm gonna go with the home team this week, thats right, Mac gets their first win of the season with a score
of A lot-Just a little less.

now, on to the two most important games of the week.  Can't wait to hear what happens on Saturday, but hear we go.......

Aurora at Lakeland.  As previously stated on the board, Lakeland doesn't have the greatest run game in the ibfc right now.  that being said, Aurora can win this game, but they have to control the ball by running it.  i don't see this to be a high scoring game, but in the end there won't be a four way tie for first. 

Lakeland gets it in a close one 24-20

now lets get to the Game of the Week. 

CUW at BU

Here we go BU, time to prove everyone wrong this week.  BU plays well at home, and they play pretty good defense.  We all know that CUW can play defense too.  If BU is going to win, they have to force turnovers and keep that CUW defense on the field.  This one is gonna be close, especially since BU has the homefield advantage........

I want to see some mix up in the conference....

BU stirs things up by getting the win 17-10
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 01, 2007, 07:10:11 AM
NCAA Football:
   Always nice to see "Picks" with some thought. 
   0-8 Mac winning? I`ll have to get back to you on that one.  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CUWsdragonfly on November 01, 2007, 09:27:41 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 31, 2007, 08:14:03 AM
Benedictine and CU-W both played Aurora( common foe).  Benedictine won in a hard fought game in 2OT`s, 20-17.  CU-W won easily, 24-0. 
  CU-W is 6-3 over-all while BU is 5-4 over-all. Not a real big differential.
  BU gives up almost 20 points per game while scoring at a rate of about 14 per.
  CU-W on the other hand, scores almost 32 per game and gives up slightly more than 14 per. 
   Both teams have decent field goal kickers as they are 12 for 23 combined.
   Those numbers show they trust their kickers and are not afraid to go for
    3.  Could well be a factor.
  CU-W is #1 in Scoring offense while BU is #7. Total offense, BU is again
    7th while CU-W is #1.
  The Boys from Mequon got thrashed last saturday and the Eagles seem
    to have gotten their groove on.   
  The BU---CU-W game should be a good one. Lots on the line no doubt.
   Can BU win on it`s home field against a statistically better team?
    Will the crowd/band/cheer-leaders make a difference? 
  I`m going with the numbers..... stats.  They reflect a teams past
   performance, good or bad. 
   That being said and knowing BU has the Boys from Mequon at home, I like
  The Falcons, soon to be the IBFC champs.   :)
   
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CUWsdragonfly on November 01, 2007, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on October 31, 2007, 08:14:03 AM
Benedictine and CU-W both played Aurora( common foe).  Benedictine won in a hard fought game in 2OT`s, 20-17.  CU-W won easily, 24-0. 
  CU-W is 6-3 over-all while BU is 5-4 over-all. Not a real big differential.
  BU gives up almost 20 points per game while scoring at a rate of about 14 per.
  CU-W on the other hand, scores almost 32 per game and gives up slightly more than 14 per. 
   Both teams have decent field goal kickers as they are 12 for 23 combined.
   Those numbers show they trust their kickers and are not afraid to go for
    3.  Could well be a factor.
  CU-W is #1 in Scoring offense while BU is #7. Total offense, BU is again
    7th while CU-W is #1.
  The Boys from Mequon got thrashed last saturday and the Eagles seem
    to have gotten their groove on.   
  The BU---CU-W game should be a good one. Lots on the line no doubt.
   Can BU win on it`s home field against a statistically better team?
    Will the crowd/band/cheer-leaders make a difference? 
  I`m going with the numbers..... stats.  They reflect a teams past
   performance, good or bad. 
   That being said and knowing BU has the Boys from Mequon at home, I like
  The Falcons, soon to be the IBFC champs.   :)
   
 
 
Gomer.....I like the way you think.........Go Falcons, everybody has a bad day now and then.  You guys had yours, get up, brush yourselves off, and get out there and show them how its done......Go Falcons..... :-*
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 01, 2007, 11:37:29 AM
  The Baby Cheese Heads have the distinction have having (2) of their players make the Div-3..........Team of The Week. 
   Congratulations guys. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 01, 2007, 12:15:29 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 01, 2007, 07:10:11 AM
NCAA Football:
   Always nice to see "Picks" with some thought. 
   0-8 Mac winning? I`ll have to get back to you on that one.  :D

Thanks Gomer......

You never know, Mac might just pull it off.

:D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 01, 2007, 03:09:34 PM
Predictions for 11-3-07

Eureka@MAC, Eureka 27-16, Eureka's offense will control the ball and the clock. IMO, theri defense will limit any big plays by Mac.


GC@CUC, GC 36-12, I think CUC is beat up and GC is firing on all cylinders. The CUC defense will find it very hard to contain the GC QB. CUC ability to be successful passing the ball is their chance to be successful in this game.


CUW@BU, CUW31-0, The Champs are Champs again. BU has done well this year but their Offensive shortcomings will hurt them versus CUW. The Falcons will come ready to play and bring all the big guns to secure their trip to the playoffs. Special teams will be a factor in this game.


AU@LC, LC 21-7. This will be a really good game. LC has alot to play for as does AU. Special teams, speed and turnovers will detemine the outcome,IMO.

Good Luck to all the IBFC teams in the LAST week/year of the league. It has been fun following the games and making predictions. It's been a year of some surprises and some usual things. I think the new NAC conference will present more rival games especially with the closeness of all the schools. Good Luck to MAC, GC and Eureka in the SLIAC. Hopefully, you will all do well.

Finally to IBFC Seniors who end their careers this week or next week. Good Luck on your life's journey.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 01, 2007, 10:18:05 PM
Since we are at the end of the IBFC season, with one conference game left, does anyone have ideas on some of the league POY candidates.

Defensive POY? IMO, the NG or MLB from CUW can't remember names or numbers.

LB POY? CUW LB or J.Wagner from LC, MLB from AU, OLB from GC.

DL POY? NT from CUW, he was a load. DE from BU(transfer from NIU). Goeken from AU,

DB POY? Corner from CUW a Senior(from Florida) or SS from CUW. AU's #18. Left Corner from CUC.

Offensive POY? Dom from GC  QB from CUW or White from LC. Reder from AU. any of the 3 RB's from CUW.

QB POY? Dom from GC, or Wilk from LC or CUW QB.

RB POY? Reder from AU, Swartz from BU or any of 3 backs from CUW.

OL POY? RG from LC, RT, C, LT, LG from CUW, AU's #69, GC's C, RT and LT.

REC. POY? White from LC. CUC #87

Special Teams POY? Punter from CUW, Punter from LC or White from LC.

IBFC POY. Dom from GC, QB from CUW, White from LC, any of the 3 RB's from CUW.

Coach of the Year? Gabe from CUW, Coop from BU, new coach at LC.

Just my thoughts on a fun subject. I hope everyone makes a pick or two on each of the areas.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 02, 2007, 12:14:47 AM
those were some heavily slanted CUW pick's on the o-line.  I dont know about the freshman, but 78, 52, and 67 definatley deserve it.  Also, I thought that the CUW quarterback was good this year, but best in conference? or even player of the year canidate? I think thats a bit of a stretch.  MAYBE if the o-coordinator would let him play a whole game, but even then, i dont know about all conference. (at least this year)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 02, 2007, 07:47:09 AM
The 2007  conference season is grinding to a halt but not with out a little suspense.  Will MacMurray continue it`s run to 0-10?  Will CU-W beat BU?
  There are others but as an "over-view" that will work.
  To pick up on something Old 40 referred to in ref to Seniors ,some playing in their last game, some next week.  You got to play College football . Some may have been on good teams, some on bad  but that aside your
   taking with you memories and friendships that will last a life time.
   
  (1) Aurora at The Home of The Baby Cheese heads: Cheese heads will be hard to beat at home but inspite of repeated calls from Maddog, hard to hear as he was mopping at the same time, I`m all in with Aurora.
   (2) Greenville at Believer-ville :  If GU can sustain what they had last week the Cougar will be on the en-dangered list.
    (3) Eureka at The home of the "losers."  What can you say about Mac?
        No excuses...please! No speculation about the future either.
       Eureka brings in a team that scores about 11 points per. Mac on the
       other hand gives up about 47 per game. 
     As Mac does not allow any  type of cow-bells or noise makers (really)
     during their games. I`m thinking the Eureka fight song will come across
      loud and clear in the fall air.  Mac 0-9
    (4) CU-W at Benedictine:  No sense in drawing this out. The Boys from
     Mequon will march out of Lisle,Ill with the title and the trip to the NCAA play-offs.
     
      I would be disappointed if this were not a really tough fought game
      though. 
         
     
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ausid on November 03, 2007, 01:59:22 PM
End of 1st Quarter at Lakeland
lakeland  14
Aurora  0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ausid on November 03, 2007, 02:10:42 PM
Halftime score from Lakeland
Lakeland  14
Aurora  3
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ausid on November 03, 2007, 03:41:28 PM
7:00 left in the 4th quarter at Lakeland
Lakeland  34
Aurora  3
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ausid on November 03, 2007, 03:54:28 PM
Final from Lakeland
Lakeland College Muskies  34
Aurora University Spartans 3

3rd Quarter in Lisle
Concordia, Univ. Wi  7
Benedictine  0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 03, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
ausid:
   Nice work on the up-dates.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on November 03, 2007, 05:27:54 PM
Final:

BU vs CUW 7-0 CUW holds on for a wild ride
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formereagle on November 03, 2007, 05:59:10 PM
I played at bu from 2000-2003, and I only know like 3 players from this team, but its great to see BU playing well again.  We used to play all of the CCIW teams very well when I was there, hopefully we see the same thing next season.  Congratulations on a great season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 03, 2007, 06:21:28 PM
Word out of Wi, I disagree with how the muskies continuously act in an unsportsmanlike fashion, considering that Doherty came from AU I expected a lot better from his team
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 03, 2007, 07:14:55 PM
    Greenville- 35
    The Believers...........22
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on November 03, 2007, 07:52:09 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 03, 2007, 06:21:28 PM
Word out of Wi, I disagree with how the muskies continuously act in an unsportsmanlike fashion, considering that Doherty came from AU I expected a lot better from his team

Better team won get over it.

Also, I was correct both teams won to stop the stupid talk about a 4way tie. Grats to CuW beating BU 7-0 thats a huge accomplishment in such a weak conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on November 03, 2007, 11:07:45 PM
Fatal - What are you talking about?  There wasn't one unsportsmanlike penalty today.  MadFrog is correct, the better team won today and AU was dominated from start to finish.  Rather than worrying about how Lakeland's squad supposedly acted, AU may want to work on completing passes to their own team (4 INTs, 1 loss fumble) and convert a 3rd down (4 of 14).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on November 03, 2007, 11:09:00 PM
Was able to catch another Greenville game this week. A little drop off in intensity from last weeks win over CUW. CUC came to play, and will admit they are on the right track, but is going to take another two years of building and getting the right athletes in the program. Be patient CUC followers, you have great facilities, and good coaches. It will get better.

GC, I think the early injuries cost them their chance in this last year of th IBFC. The last two weeks I have seen what I had heard about. Their program will continue to get better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 04, 2007, 05:19:00 AM
MacMurray continues it`s march towards an 0-10 season after Eureka
   gave them a beat down to the tune of 41-27. 
   At this point in time they have set (1) record and broke(1) record.  One being they have never lost all their conference games in a season and the other, won less than (2) games in their entire football history which goes back to 1985. They were 2-8 in 1988. Source: Mac Football All Time Records.
   As they play Blackburn(3-6) next week no matter what the out come this years version of the Highlanders is the worst team ever. In terms of wins and losses that is.
   The only thing Mac has now is the future as this year was a total bust, to put it mildly. 
 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 04, 2007, 09:15:57 AM
In no way am i trying to discredit CUW but that is the worst offensive team this conference has put into the playoffs in the 6 years ive been around.  And yes BU's defense is pretty solid but wow.  that is all
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 04, 2007, 12:21:35 PM
Quote from: madfrog on November 03, 2007, 07:52:09 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 03, 2007, 06:21:28 PM
Word out of Wi, I disagree with how the muskies continuously act in an unsportsmanlike fashion, considering that Doherty came from AU I expected a lot better from his team

Better team won get over it.

Also, I was correct both teams won to stop the stupid talk about a 4way tie. Grats to CuW beating BU 7-0 thats a huge accomplishment in such a weak conference.


I'm talking about LC blaitant disobedience of their coach calling a fake punt and the fact that shows no respect, I never said anything about winning or losing....

Quote from: WhatDoIKnow on November 03, 2007, 11:07:45 PM
Fatal - What are you talking about?  There wasn't one unsportsmanlike penalty today.  MadFrog is correct, the better team won today and AU was dominated from start to finish.  Rather than worrying about how Lakeland's squad supposedly acted, AU may want to work on completing passes to their own team (4 INTs, 1 loss fumble) and convert a 3rd down (4 of 14).


Same as above.....LC shows llack of respect year after year...I expect alot better
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 04, 2007, 09:10:46 PM
So CUW's offense has all been a weakness.  But only putting up 7 last week is kind of embarassing.  I had some hope they might make a little bit of noise in the playoffs, but if you cant put up more than a touchdown against BU (no offense to BU they are a much better team than i had initially thought), than how are u gonna fair against IWU, NCC, or god forbid....Mount Union.  And the turnovers are just KILLING them.  I think they need to do some serious work on the offense in the off season (and possibly some work on who runs it)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: xcoach44 on November 04, 2007, 10:23:45 PM
Help??  Is it only me??  The Eagle had a great season but....What is up with BU's O????  Having seen four of their games this year- I have to question the direction of their O?  Yesterday having the ball on the two yard line with under a minute and not able to get it done.  The concerning part was the fact that who ever was calling the O plays couldn't decide on which plays to run and the 25 second clock was ticking down forcing the offense to snap quickly and not have pre snap reads. Twice!!  Granted- the plays called should have been executed but didn't?  How can you go a half and not have a first down?  I could be mistaken but appeared that the reciever coach was calling the plays when they were moving the ball?  BU needs an O scheme?  Part-time wing T(3/4 of the time) and a few formations with single back set??  The buck sweep and tackle trap are good plays but they run them to death!  Why they didn't run the option yesterday???    If they want to take the next step and compete with the CCIW teams and or win the conf-they have to get creative on the O.   Their D scheme is solid!  They have a chance to be good next year if they can get the O ???  I could go on and on about the four games I saw with the O.  Is it me or does anyone out there shair my pain???????????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on November 04, 2007, 10:55:40 PM
Fatal - It is quite obvious you post on emotion rather than fact.  First you claim "unsportsmanlike behavior" on LC and then change it to the "disobedient coach".  In fact, if you would have watch the situation play out at the end of the game, it became apparent the player called the "fake punt" rather than the coaching staff.  Furthermore, the LC head coach had the player apologize to the AU head coach for his actions.   The fake punt didn't hurt a thing.  LC didn't score.  I think if LC wanted to rub it in.  They would have kept #1 in the game and threw the ball to him until they put another TD on the board.  Bottom line, if AU was upset, why didn't the players do anything about it.

This situation kind of reminds of the NE Patriots supposedly running up the score on its opponents.

XCoach44 - I agree Benedictine needs to make some changes on their offense.  If they make some changes, BU could compete for a conference championship.

Believers, let me offer some advice.  Until you WIN on the field, nobody is going to believe anything you have to say.  Coach Pries may be pointing your group in the right direction, but your institution's philosophy will prevent you from doing anything.  I would say the same thing for Mac and GC, but they are headed to a new conference next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2007, 07:29:31 AM
CougsFB:
       Your assessment of your college playing career was right on point
       when you said it was a........."great experience,"
       That along with the memories will last a life time.
       Plus, A BELIEVER forever.  :) 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2007, 08:01:34 AM
buFan:
     CU-W is first (almost) in all the IBFC stats and as everybody knows won
     the championship. That being said, I agree with you to a point. I`d   
     rather say, this is one of the weaker  conference champs that  will
     represent the IBC in the up coming NCAA play-offs.
     When the brackets and seed # come out we`ll get to see who gets the honor of dispatching The Boys from Mequon from the first round of play
     I`m thinking CU-W gets a #8 seed and there-by gets to play a #1 seed.
     Up next .............the brackets.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 05, 2007, 10:45:46 AM
Yeah, I am scared to see who CUW will be playing in the first round.

Either way an early exit from the playoffs.  Maybe the new conferences will produce a playoff winner.....

Man, there were some weird scores this year.  CUW only beating BU 7-0 and CUC beating BU 21-10.  Greenville blowing out CUW and CUC keeping relatively close against Greenville, and others I am not mentioning.

Aw well, good luck to CUW in the playoffs.....will be needed, especially this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 05, 2007, 10:50:52 AM
QuoteXCoach44 - I agree Benedictine needs to make some changes on their offense.  If they make some changes, BU could compete for a conference championship.

Believers, let me offer some advice.  Until you WIN on the field, nobody is going to believe anything you have to say.  Coach Pries may be pointing your group in the right direction, but your institution's philosophy will prevent you from doing anything.  I would say the same thing for Mac and GC, but they are headed to a new conference next year.

You are talking about BU competeing for a conference champoinship and CUC not being able to compete because of philosophy.  Yet, CUC beat BU early on in the season.  Yes it was early on and teams usually get better but I think you should specify until CUC wins CONSISTANTLY no one will listen.  That is the problem with young players, and why most coaches hate  freshmen.  

Gomer I agree that this is one of the weakest teams from the IBFC to represent in the playoffs.  Obviously I wish the all the best but it will be a tough seed to overcome.  

All in all I would say this is the worst I have seen the conference since I have known it.  No matter who would have represented in the playoffs the outcome would be the same.  I look at the difference between teams in the IBFC today as compaired to a couple years ago and it is night and day.  

Most of the teams look like high school teams, with no size and little speed.  There may be only one or two runnning backs over 200 pounds (22or 23 from LC and 34 from CUC) niether of which is a full time back.  I realize some offenses are more concerned with speed, but why can't schools recruit kids with both size and speed.  

And the D-lines and lniebackers have gotten considerably smaller.  I just hope this trend doesn't continue in the NAC.  Although it appears it will.  Losing one decent team in GC and two terrible teams in EC and Mac.  While gaining one decent team ( I think ) in Rockford and two terrible teams in Wisconsin Lutheran and Maranatha Baptist.

How long is it before the NAC can earn automatic bids to the playoffs?

How do you think this will affect recruiting to these schools?

Is there a chance a team with a good enough overall record can still represent the NAC in the playoffs?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 05, 2007, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: CougsFB on November 04, 2007, 08:51:14 PM
Hello to all on the board. My name is Sean Yerkes and I played my last game of college football yesterday. I was the starting left tackle for the Concordia Cougars for two years and the two previous years before that I played the tight end position. Playing in this conference and on this team meant a lot to me because I met a lot of great people through out the four years. One person I will never forget going up against was Wilbur...he is one big boy. Looks like I am going to be added into the collection of the "believers" on this board as I have seen the fans of Concordia get labeled and I am okay with that because the guys that are still on the team and playing next year give me a reason to believe as well as the coaching staff. I played for Jeff Hynes and I played for Bob Conwell (I sat out the 2004 season) and they were both great guys. Coach Pries is leading this team in the right direction and has brought in a good group of guys this past year and will continue to.
It was great playing with everyone at Concordia and if I could, I would continue to play. I only won 9 games while being here but it was a great experience. It will be fun to join all of you on this board to discuss some football.

Hey Baseman, I got a catch in my last game against Greenville...tackle eligible...gained a few yards. I forgot I was a little heavier than 2 years ago.

GO COUGARS!!!



You hit it right on the head Yerkes.  Sure the wins are great and the losses hurt but who cares.  You played COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!  Not many people can say that. 

You will forget the scores of games and the records but you will always remember all the great times you had.  The pregame routines, the road trips, how hyped you would get before games, that feeling in your stomach of nervous excitement, the HITS, the blocks and the best of all, the teammates and lifelong friends.  Thats why this is the greatest game of all time. 

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
Falcsfb:
    "How long is it till the NAC can get the "automatic" bid ?"   
    2010 for the teams moving over to the SLIAC.  Not to sure I`m in the
    ball park here as you said NAC but it`s worth a shot. :)
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on November 05, 2007, 12:28:34 PM
Falcsfb - CUC will never win consistently and in fact this is the first time the program has won more than 2 games in how long?  Sure they upset BU, EC upset you, GC upset CUW.  Upsets happen every Saturday.   Bottomline, the BU program has more upside than does CUC.  Also, I did say compete and not win, which are two different ideas.  Look at this this way, if you didn't upset BU at the beginning of the season, they would have been competing for the conference championship Saturday vs CUW.

I think most "believers" and I would be ecstatic with a 5 win season, given the fact you play a cupcake non-conf schedule.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CougsFB on November 05, 2007, 02:35:27 PM
Whats going on FalcsFB??? Kind of stole your idea for a name but figured you wouldn't mind.  :P

It is going to be a rough 1st game in the playoffs for the IBFC team this year...good luck to you guys at Mequon...play with heart. Like someone said earlier, UPSETS HAPPEN EVERY SATURDAY

Gomer...I am gladly going to support my team. I am a Cubs fan as well so getting tagged with being a Believer is going to be a new part of my lifestyle I guess. ;D the Cougars actually give me something to believe about though...I am fed up with the Cubs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: drucker on November 05, 2007, 02:45:24 PM
Wow Gomer Pyle I do not think anyone knew that MacMurray was 0-9. That was a shocker to I think everyone in the world, I mean a brand new coaching staff like 10 returning players and a total lack of support by most of the IBC.

And bye the way Eureka ran up the score, keeping your starters in when they had the game in hand was a very classy move. I know when I become a coach one day I am going to do that, especially against a team that has not won a game at all this year.

Good Job Mac for not quitting and making it a game. 41-27 losing bye 14 is actually an improvement and I know that you will win your last game salvaging this season.

Hey Mac might not be the best team but they are a team now.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on November 05, 2007, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: CougsFB on November 05, 2007, 02:35:27 PM
I am fed up with the Cubs.


I believe you may have found something to unite the whole message board.  Maybe we can't agree on who is the best or most disappointing team in the conference but I think we can all agree that the Cubs are more disappointing than all of them!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 05, 2007, 03:22:27 PM
What do I know,

I can tell you one of the things you don't know and that is how to count.
CUC won three games this year.  Your right, upsets happen, they happen all the time. However, I never upset BU (it was never a close game when I played for CUW as my name states) and I was not upset by EC ever as you stated and I do believe CUC will win consistantly in the next couple of years as long as key coaches and players stay around.  

Thats not going to happen at BU however untill they stop lying to recruits about how they are making the move towards the spread offense as they have the last couple of years.  I have not seen a much greater upside to the BU program over CUC.  I have seen both teams play multiple games this year and I beleive CUC has better talent than BU and will learn to win consistantly with it.  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2007, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: drucker on November 05, 2007, 02:45:24 PM
Wow Gomer Pyle I do not think anyone knew that MacMurray was 0-9. That was a shocker to I think everyone in the world, I mean a brand new coaching staff like 10 returning players and a total lack of support by most of the IBC.

And bye the way Eureka ran up the score, keeping your starters in when they had the game in hand was a very classy move. I know when I become a coach one day I am going to do that, especially against a team that has not won a game at all this year.

Good Job Mac for not quitting and making it a game. 41-27 losing bye 14 is actually an improvement and I know that you will win your last game salvaging this season.

Hey Mac might not be the best team but they are a team now.

   "and bye the way Eureka ran up the score........."
     MacMurray gives up almost 47 points per game ( Eureka only scored 41)
   
     Augustana scored 65.   The Boys from Mequon scored 50 and The
      Cheese Heads scored 49.  Those are but a few of the scores hung on
       Mac this season. 
      Like most would say, if you can`t stop-um, you lose big time.
      Take a tums and look forward to next year.  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on November 05, 2007, 03:57:09 PM
Falcfb - I can tell you I do know how to count.  I was giving CUC the credit for their three wins this year.  When was the last time they won three games?  This point here indicates they have not consistently won and the odds they will consistently win are slim to none given the current regime.

I didn't realize I was talking about your playing days at CUW.  I believe the entire conversation is focused on CUC.  Thus, they were upset by EC this year and your beloved Falcons were also upset this year by GC.  Thus, the reason for my comments upsets can happen.

I cannot comment on the recruiting tactics of either school, but one thing you need to keep in mind is perhaps BU would like to run the spread offense and thus they are selling such to recruits.  But, if they are unable to recruit the athletes to execute such an offense, then you must install an offense which will enable you to be successful.

Your opinion regarding the upside of CUC over BU is slightly skewed given your relationship with the CUC program.  Both programs are fairly young and when I compare scores to other programs in the league, BU has the edge.  BU also has a new football stadium to market while CUC has not seen the benefits of its stadium.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 05, 2007, 03:59:01 PM
Congrats to the CUW Falcons on their Championship this season. Good Luck in the Playoffs. I hope they send you to Wabash and not Mt. Union. The CCIW champion may end up the 2 seed but most likely Wabash will get the 2nd. seed. Good Luck and make sure you run and throw the ball like in the LC game.

Congrats to LC for being co-champions. IMO, The LC and CUW game was the game of the year in the IBFC, a great game to watch. I guess the GC fans would not agree.

Congrats to CUC and BU for moving up from last year. I hope your journey keeps moving forward. Your programs can't afford any backwards movement.

Welcome to the 3 new teams to tne NAC. I don't know much about Maranatha but saw Rockford last year against AU. Another wingT team joins BU and CUW. WLU comes from the MIAA where they struggled, however they beat AU this year in the opener. WLU has a great facility.  

Does anyone have a feel for the non-football playing schools in the NAC? Are any of them considering adding football? That would be great to have a couple more teams especially since non-conference games are getting hard to schedule.

Any thoughts on the 2007 year end awards? I gave mine on a earlier post.  I hope everyone in the IBFC supports CUW efforts in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2007, 04:02:23 PM
The NAthCon should have an automatic bid for football in 2010.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 05, 2007, 05:04:42 PM
Pat,

Can an undefeated regular season earn a NathCon team a playoff berth???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2007, 05:08:12 PM
They'd have to get in via the Pool B route in 2008 and 2009. With the conference schedule they'd be playing, it might take a 10-0 record, or a 9-1 record with a loss to a playoff-type team and a win against a playoff-type team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 05, 2007, 05:13:02 PM
What I Know,

I totally agree upsets can happen and I did agree with you.  I guess my point was just to give credit where credit is due.  Just like GC sticking it to my beloved Falcons.

I commented about where I played because you said that EC upset me.   I am not apart of the Cougar program, and therefor not a part of that upset.

I am not disagreeing that BU is on the upswing at all I just think (from seeing both teams play)  talent wise that CUC has the edge  IMO.  Skewed or not.  BU has always had great facilities and I always loved playing there; but so does CUC.  I actually liked BU grass field better but the new stadium is much much  nicer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 05, 2007, 05:13:32 PM
Thanks Pat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hester23 on November 05, 2007, 09:57:37 PM
Drucker im not for sure who told you that EC ran the score up with there starters bc they took out the entire starting defense besides the d line and also took out many offensive players with about ten minutes left in the game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CougsFB on November 06, 2007, 03:50:03 PM
CUC has one of the top 3 fields in the IBFC....if I had to rank the fields/stadiums in order it would be:
1. Benedictine
2. CUC
3. CUW (new field)
4. Aurora (best natural)
5. Greenville
6. Lakeland
7. Eureka
8. MAC

MAC and Eureka shouldn't even be placed on the list because the fields are just plain ridiculous for a college team. Benedictine has the nicest stadium but....its so big it never gets filled. But if any of the other schools had pro/semi pro teams playing at their schools, they would have the same type of facilities. Aurora has amazing grass to play on but the stands suck and I hated playing there all the time because there is no separation between the away team and home fans...you could hear every remark being made.

The reason I posted this is because facilities are a huge deal when you bring in recruits. Recruits see a field such as BU, CUC, or CUWs and they will love it. A lot of the teams are less fortunate than others.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 06, 2007, 05:00:04 PM
CougsFB;

You are very correct with your statement. I also think that it is imperative to have the weight room and fitness center to go with the stadium. It really becomes a total Football (Athletic facility issue). Some of the schools with poor outside stadiums have great inside facilities. CUW, IMO has the best of both. LC has greaty inside facilities. The only new team that has great facilities is WLU. IMO, most of the NAC scholls are working towards upgrading their facilities. To compete for the Quality athletes the schools have to upgrade.

IMO. The LC grass this year was pretty good especially late in the season, however I agree that AU's is not bad but remeber they have soccer also on the field.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 06, 2007, 10:07:44 PM
I agree with your list more or less cougs.  However the CUW "stadium" is very very poor.  I know that there are plans to change it (possibly as soon as next season).  But i can tell you that when i was recruited there the field was actually something that turned me off to the school.  Especially having visited the WIAC schools who all had extremely nice facilities.  I think that schools would do much better to have "football buildings".  I know this is not exactley what most schools like spending money on, but when you go to the bigger schools, they all have their own buildings where meetings, weight rooms, and film sessions all take place.  These are the type of things that really impress a recruit, and show dedication to the program. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 06, 2007, 11:00:42 PM
Quote from: CougsFB on November 06, 2007, 03:50:03 PM
CUC has one of the top 3 fields in the IBFC....if I had to rank the fields/stadiums in order it would be:
1. Benedictine
2. CUC
3. CUW (new field)
4. Aurora (best natural)
5. Greenville
6. Lakeland
7. Eureka
8. MAC

MAC and Eureka shouldn't even be placed on the list because the fields are just plain ridiculous for a college team. Benedictine has the nicest stadium but....its so big it never gets filled. But if any of the other schools had pro/semi pro teams playing at their schools, they would have the same type of facilities. Aurora has amazing grass to play on but the stands suck and I hated playing there all the time because there is no separation between the away team and home fans...you could hear every remark being made.

The reason I posted this is because facilities are a huge deal when you bring in recruits. Recruits see a field such as BU, CUC, or CUWs and they will love it. A lot of the teams are less fortunate than others.

I agree with your list as well.  the problem with Mac's field is simple.  when it was just built, the rumor was they wanted to take a year still to play on the old field while the new field was "under construction"  the problem was, they wanted to play on the new field so much, they played on it a year too early and ever since then they have had every problem in the book with it.  they always have trouble keeping grass on it every year, the sidelines flood, etc.  However, they have tried to make improvements.  they have actually gotten new wieght room equitment, its only like 2 years old now, and they are trying to make make the field as well as possible.  its just going to take time.  at least mac is trying to make improvements here and there, it is just finding the money to get them done. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CougsFB on November 06, 2007, 11:20:08 PM
Quote from: NCAA Football on November 06, 2007, 11:00:42 PM
Quote from: CougsFB on November 06, 2007, 03:50:03 PM
CUC has one of the top 3 fields in the IBFC....if I had to rank the fields/stadiums in order it would be:
1. Benedictine
2. CUC
3. CUW (new field)
4. Aurora (best natural)
5. Greenville
6. Lakeland
7. Eureka
8. MAC

MAC and Eureka shouldn't even be placed on the list because the fields are just plain ridiculous for a college team. Benedictine has the nicest stadium but....its so big it never gets filled. But if any of the other schools had pro/semi pro teams playing at their schools, they would have the same type of facilities. Aurora has amazing grass to play on but the stands suck and I hated playing there all the time because there is no separation between the away team and home fans...you could hear every remark being made.

The reason I posted this is because facilities are a huge deal when you bring in recruits. Recruits see a field such as BU, CUC, or CUWs and they will love it. A lot of the teams are less fortunate than others.

I agree with your list as well.  the problem with Mac's field is simple.  when it was just built, the rumor was they wanted to take a year still to play on the old field while the new field was "under construction"  the problem was, they wanted to play on the new field so much, they played on it a year too early and ever since then they have had every problem in the book with it.  they always have trouble keeping grass on it every year, the sidelines flood, etc.  However, they have tried to make improvements.  they have actually gotten new wieght room equitment, its only like 2 years old now, and they are trying to make make the field as well as possible.  its just going to take time.  at least mac is trying to make improvements here and there, it is just finding the money to get them done. 

Yeah, I definately wasn't trying to down MACs program....frustrations as an ex-player came out thinking about playing on it. I just remember shards of glass in the middle of the field, bricks sticking out of the ground on the sidelines and the grass having a yellowish-brown shade. I am sure of it that MAC is trying to better the field because it is dangerous to all players playing there and not just the away team.

Quote from: cudub on November 06, 2007, 10:07:44 PM
I agree with your list more or less cougs.  However the CUW "stadium" is very very poor.  I know that there are plans to change it (possibly as soon as next season).  But i can tell you that when i was recruited there the field was actually something that turned me off to the school.  Especially having visited the WIAC schools who all had extremely nice facilities.  I think that schools would do much better to have "football buildings".  I know this is not exactley what most schools like spending money on, but when you go to the bigger schools, they all have their own buildings where meetings, weight rooms, and film sessions all take place.  These are the type of things that really impress a recruit, and show dedication to the program. 

Sorry, I wasn't referring to the stands of CUW...those are pretty bad. I was referring to the new turf they had put in. I have only seen pictures though...never played on it.

The only thing i had against Lakelands field was how much of a slope there was from sideline to sideline, which I know is for flooding purposes. That was one huge slope though and that is why I thought Auroras field was better off.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 07, 2007, 12:31:00 AM
CougsFB,

Its ok, I understand the frustrations one may have had playing on the field, just be thankful you only had to play on it a couple of times.   :D

it would be nice to get better facilities, and im guessing cuw, aurora, cuc, benedictine also have great alumni support to help get these new additions and facilities to better the program.  it would be nice if the same thing could happen at mac.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hester23 on November 07, 2007, 01:12:03 AM
EC should be above Lakeland and GC on the best field list.  EC just got new grandstands and the field is nicer than both of those
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 07, 2007, 02:26:57 AM
Hester,
You forgot to follow up your message with a "haha, wasn't that a good one guys?".  It borders a trailer park.....and it drains about as well as the IBFC does in playoff competition.  Lets be serious.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 07, 2007, 12:04:02 PM
You also forgot to mention the up hill slope from the south endzone to the north endzone....that is what makes it nicer than Lakeland and GC because no other field can have that claim.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on November 07, 2007, 01:55:39 PM
Hey all,I have two comments and a question.

First, good luck Mac vs. Blackburn.  I honestly do think this is a game Mac can win.  Granted, Blackburn can put up points, but Mac obviously showed they can too wtih 27 vs. Eureka, so at least there has been improvement.

Second, the statements about Mac's field are right on.  From what I was told, they rushed the creatoin of the new field so they wouldn't have to play on the old one- in turn causing the new one to have bricks, glass, etc.  I know they have been working on it.  There is also a rumor/grassroots plan to move all of Mac's fields around except the softball field, but obviously that would be years in the future.

My question is about the new conference.  I knew teams were moving but I guess I am still confused: Can someone give me a break down of the two conferences the teams from the IBC will be in and other teams that will be in both conferences?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: matblake on November 07, 2007, 02:03:33 PM
MacMurry, Eureka, Greenville, have signed up with the SLIAC (http://www.sliac.org/default.htm)

Aurora, Benedictine, CUC, CUW, and Lakeland are with the NAthCon (http://northernathleticsconf.com/sports/football/)

Modified to Remove Blackburn. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 07, 2007, 03:31:07 PM
QuoteEC should be above Lakeland and GC on the best field list.  EC just got new grandstands and the field is nicer than both of those

Yeah Hester, I agree with Cougswillwin and cudub....are you kidding me?

You also forgot to mention Billy Bob in the trailer park who catches the PATs and field goals.

Saying that EC has a better field then Lakeland or Greenville is just plain wrong.  That's like me saying, "Carrie Underwood is ugly".  Just isn't right, and so was your comment. 

I guess if you like running uphill for half the game it's a good field.....stupid.

But yeah, I agree with the stadium list as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hester23 on November 07, 2007, 04:11:41 PM
Yea the trailer park does make it look like crap but the field itself, like the grass is in pretty good shape
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 07, 2007, 04:34:10 PM
I played at EC while it was raining, with the poor drainage and slope of the field it was like a mud slide.  I think the only field its better than is Mac.  I will say tho, for as poor as the EC program has been as of late, the fans are pretty supportive in that town.  Especially the endzone crew.  There aren't many teams in the IBFC who have the constant support of "superfans".  And if they do have some, there are not very many of them.

For those of us who are heading to the NathCon, is anyone else really anxious to see the outcome of the AU vs Rockford game?  I was checking the stats, and RC has had a pretty decent team the last few years, competing for the UMAC.  However i dont know what the competition is like in that conference.  I think the game will be a very good measuring stick for who is going to be competing for the NathCon championship next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CougsFB on November 07, 2007, 10:42:36 PM
Hester--When I put the teams' fields/stadiums in the order, I was talking about all around (field, stands, sidelines, maintenance). Eureka's field does not top Greenville and Lakeland's field overall. Greenville has just put in a track around the field (again, saw pictures) and it looks amazing. The grass is always in great condition and even when it rains, it is not like playing in a mud pit. Playing at Eureka was difficult. The field goes uphill...and its not a tiny slant, it is harder to run towards the North endzone. Grass is usually nice when it is thick but Eureka makes sure to keep their grass nice and long, which when it rains out becomes a ridiculous mess.

Baseman-- Eureka has a kicking net now :o...blocking the football from hitting good ole Billy Bob's finely tuned trailer.

cudub--I am also excited about the new conference next year. It will be good to have new blood in the conference and to also not go below Chicago to play a conference game. It will be interesting to see how these new teams fair in the NAC. I hope for the best with all teams in the off season.  I am already pumped for the 2008 season.

Cougswillwin--Hey there friend...good to see you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 08, 2007, 12:33:32 AM
Quote from: cudub on November 07, 2007, 04:34:10 PMFor those of us who are heading to the NathCon, is anyone else really anxious to see the outcome of the AU vs Rockford game?  I was checking the stats, and RC has had a pretty decent team the last few years, competing for the UMAC.  However i dont know what the competition is like in that conference.  I think the game will be a very good measuring stick for who is going to be competing for the NathCon championship next year.

It's relevant to note that Rockford College has been on the verge of closing its doors for the past couple of years due to financial troubles. Who knows if the Regents will even be in the NAthCon next year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 08, 2007, 08:15:23 AM
 Play-Off Projections as per D-3:

   Mount Union Bracket:
    #1 Mount Union vs #8 The Boys from Mequon.
      "Generally speaking the #1 seed plays the #8 seed................"
       " But the committee also reserves the right to juggle first round
          pairings................."
      Just a couple of notable facts about The Purple Raiders. Out of 9 games
       played so far they have recorded 6 shut-outs. They score almost 54
      per game.
      Their "D" must be pretty stout as they only give up 2+ points per game.
      There are other factors but I think you get the picture.
      CU-W  will be nothing more than a speed bump in Mount Unions
      quest for  the D-3 National Championship.
      To those who think CU-W even has a chance of beating MU...........
      You can join Drucker in counciling as he thought Eureka ran up the
      score( winning by14 points) on MacMurray.    :D
     
     
     
       
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 08, 2007, 10:22:25 AM
Ahhhh, they have a net now?

What is Billy Bobs job now?  Saddening.

Gomer-

Yeah, I saw the projections and pairings too.....ouch, this will not be pretty if it stays this way.  Though I don't see Mount running up the score since CUW does show sportsmanship and respect.

I still see the score being around the 60-0 though.  To be honest, it may even be more, the 3rd string of MU will probably just run the ball the whole 2nd half and may score a bunch as well.

Now don't get me wrong, I want to see an IBC team win a playoff game badly, but ouch.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 08, 2007, 10:37:38 AM
Gomer and Baseman;

What will kill CUW at Mount will be that the Raiders will score early and often on big plays via the pass and run. Look for a 48-0 half score. Then the JV's run the remainder of the game. Mt. has a pretty good passing attack and their receivers have speed and are good.

CUW may luck out and get sent to Wabash and the MIAA champ to Alliance. Wabash is good but not in Mounts class. CUW and Wabash will be a good game, somewhat like the AU and Wooster game a few years ago. I hope they don't move CUW to the West and face UWW.  IMO, the best scenario is to go to Wabash. We will see on Saturday.

Anybody's thoughts on where the NCAA will put the SLIAC and NAC conferences. IMO, the NAC could stay in the North or go to the West. The SLIAC will probably go to the South.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 08, 2007, 10:54:12 AM
Gregory Sager;

I think you are right on about Rockford. They have been struggling financially for some time. I hope they find their way out of the mess. IMO, they are hanging by a thread.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on November 08, 2007, 11:57:47 AM
Hey you all....just got on and been reading alot of things.....first off, congrats to CUW....hope you all do good in the playoffs...One thing i will say for you'all is that you MUST play mistake free football to take one from Mount Union.....Good job john wagner....heard you did good this season...keep trucking man, still dont think your the pain train bc i didn't feel any pain but i go respect for you and i think your a good LB!!

        Now to my old team, Rucker...please...we got your message loud and clear...you LOVE MAC, good, thats great and i am glad your a fan....but stop making excuses for these boys, i knew they werent going to win alot of ball games this year...lost alot of oline...all conference QB, Running backs....and recievers...not to mention rodney payne...which alot of people thought was a monster and scotty gregory as well as key losses on the DLine.....Come on..Now with the transition to new coaches...thats tough too... you can say what you want about me but i am saying that i am not the only one to think that mac was not going to win a game....
       Now for my boys at mac...I am proud of Dimitric hightower.....man was a complete gamer....Atwain jones even though he wasnt used correctly...probably the best DB i had ever played with.....and ricky hamilton...i know it was tough but i know you tried hard every game....Blakemore...You improved from what i saw and i was very proud of you!!! Your a winner in my book......
       to the freshman..if you stay...keep your heads up and beleive in each other bc people are going to say what they want to say in that small town...dont get caught into the BS of macmurray....be caught into each other and beleive that your going to get better and become ONE...not individuals....I am very impressed with your efforts and i wish you all luck...
       Hope my old football buddies are doing good....JR, MASK, Gillespse, Parker, WR from CUW, Poe(didnt forget about ya) Kid was a monster, and anyone who i forgot..you know i gots love for yall and if you all are in ORLANDO...LET ME KNOW...i take you all out!!!

I'm OUT later........
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 08, 2007, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: PIROLLO9 on November 08, 2007, 11:57:47 AM
Hey you all....just got on and been reading alot of things.....first off, congrats to CUW....hope you all do good in the playoffs...One thing i will say for you'all is that you MUST play mistake free football to take one from Mount Union.....Good job john wagner....heard you did good this season...keep trucking man, still dont think your the pain train bc i didn't feel any pain but i go respect for you and i think your a good LB!!

        Now to my old team, Rucker...please...we got your message loud and clear...you LOVE MAC, good, thats great and i am glad your a fan....but stop making excuses for these boys, i knew they werent going to win alot of ball games this year...lost alot of oline...all conference QB, Running backs....and recievers...not to mention rodney payne...which alot of people thought was a monster and scotty gregory as well as key losses on the DLine.....Come on..Now with the transition to new coaches...thats tough too... you can say what you want about me but i am saying that i am not the only one to think that mac was not going to win a game....
       Now for my boys at mac...I am proud of Dimitric hightower.....man was a complete gamer....Atwain jones even though he wasnt used correctly...probably the best DB i had ever played with.....and ricky hamilton...i know it was tough but i know you tried hard every game....Blakemore...You improved from what i saw and i was very proud of you!!! Your a winner in my book......
       to the freshman..if you stay...keep your heads up and beleive in each other bc people are going to say what they want to say in that small town...dont get caught into the BS of macmurray....be caught into each other and beleive that your going to get better and become ONE...not individuals....I am very impressed with your efforts and i wish you all luck...
       Hope my old football buddies are doing good....JR, MASK, Gillespse, Parker, WR from CUW, Poe(didnt forget about ya) Kid was a monster, and anyone who i forgot..you know i gots love for yall and if you all are in ORLANDO...LET ME KNOW...i take you all out!!!

I'm OUT later........


You did play with Woodrow, right, probably one of the best db's i've ever seen play here at mac.  the kid could shut down one whole half of the field.  just thought i'd point that out.......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on November 08, 2007, 09:10:23 PM
Another one i want to add to the list is JEFF CHAPMAN and JON HAMILTON
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hester23 on November 09, 2007, 12:55:03 AM
I saw a list of conference standing some where on line and hey is CUC ranked higher than EC when they both have two conference wins and EC beat CUC???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2007, 08:02:39 AM
   Only a couple of games left and none are conference games.  The one
    game of interest is the Blackburn vs MacMurray game.  This years
    version of the Highlanders has established a record of sorts and that is
    lossing all of it`s conference games (0-7). Never been done before. A
     redundant statement but true.
    If they lose to Blackburn at home they will establish another record. That
    being.........having lost every game on their 2007 schedule. 0-10!
    Blacburn is 3-6 over-all. Their "D"  must be soft as they give up almost
  41 per game.  Scoring about 29 per should keep them ahead of Mac.
   Mac on the other hand has no "D." as giving up 46+ per game suggests.
   They score at a woe-ful 7+ per.. As their record shows that doesn`t win
    any games.
   Blackburn will win at Mac (remember, MacMurray doesn`t allow any cow-bells in the stands)  there by helping the 2007 version of the Highlanders
   establish a record that will never be broken(0-10). Can be tied but never
    broken.
   (2) Aurora at Rockford: Rockford is 6-3, over-all and while I think AU can play with these guys they`ll have to listen to the Rockford fight song in the end.
   (3) CU-W:  All done. Just waiting to see who they will play in the NCAA play-offs.
   (4) The Believers: Done.  They started off strong (at least their posse did)
     but they faded along with the wins. Although they did tie for 3rd, which
    was good for them.
   (5) Eureka at Chicago: Chicago.  They have a nice fight song.
    (6) Benedictine: Done.  Tied for 2nd in conference play.  Some posters were negative about the coach but their play spoke well for the staff and players.
   (7) Wash U at Greenville: W-U came in 3rd in their conference and has
     a so-so points for and against . Greenville tied for 2nd in the IBC and
     I believe this is the year they can beat Wash U.
     Greenville at home, infront of all the fans,cheer-leaders, band, and cow-
     bells will pull this one off. Pass out the sheet music.
      This was one of the better years as far as parity goes in the IBFC. IMO.
     
     
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 09, 2007, 09:24:44 AM
Predictions for the last week, all non conference games;

Blackburn@MAC- Blackburn gets the W in a close high scoring game. The game can go either way but a long pass from Blackburn QB pulls it out at the buzzer. 49-48.

Chicago@EC- Chicago gets the W, 38-14. Chicago has to many athletes and has a solid defense.

Wash.U@GC- The Game of the week in the IBFC. WashU gets the W, 28-21 in a hard fought game. WashU controls the GC QB and gets the win.

AU@Rockford- AU gets the W. They bounce back with a strong defense and a strong running game. They get revenge from last years lost to Rockford 24-14.


Next week CUW plays in the first round. We will find out for sure later on Sat. on D3football.com who they will play. I hope they go to Wabash and not Mount Union. Good Luck to them. I will make the trip to watch them.

Gomer- you did not say anything in conclusion on LC(baby cheese heads). I thought they did well for having a late hire on the entire staff. They endend up better than most people thought.

Hats off to BU and CUC who did better this year than last year. Looks like AU is a year away. CUW wins back to back(tied with LC). Good job by all the Falcons.

It was great watching all the teams this year as I saw everyone play at least once. Good Luck agin to the Seniors in their new life and I can't wait till next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 09, 2007, 10:16:16 AM
PIROLL09-

You said CUW MUST play mistake free football to have a chance with Mount.  I think even if they play mistake free football they still lose 60-0.

When a team is WAY more talented you can't really do much about it.  But I get it, upsets happen all the time, I know.  But still, some of the better teams couldn't even stop Mount, they had 6 freaking shutouts......6!!!! 

I say better teams because the OAC is one of the best conferences in D-III.

They (CUW) won't be able to stop Garcon, Micheli or Kmic.  I do hope they play Wabash so the IBC has a fighting chance in the playoffs.


Almost forgot, Hester.....use a comma every once in a while.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2007, 10:18:38 AM
old40:
     My bad!   I over looked them completely.  I could say i was trying to flush out maddog but in truth.... I just forgot them. My apologise.
     They, The Baby Cheese Heads, didn`t do bad, tying for 1st place in the
      IBC. Having a chance to take the title but lossing to CU-W in a really
      good football game.  That`s about all you can ask for is the chance.
      In fact they (LC) had a slightly better for (28+) and against(23+) than a
     a surging Greenville team who had only (1) more loss and whose stats were comparable to LC. Those being 29+ for and 18+ against. 
    I only bring that up as most thought Greenville would a serious contender in the IBC.  Finishing tied for 2nd  shows they were in the hunt
    but just came up a tad short.
    Maddog:  I`m disappointed that you havn`t posted your annual All-IBFC
     Team.  BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.   :D
     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2007, 10:30:40 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 09, 2007, 10:16:16 AM
PIROLL09-

You said CUW MUST play mistake free football to have a chance with Mount.  I think even if they play mistake free football they still lose 60-0.

When a team is WAY more talented you can't really do much about it.  But I get it, upsets happen all the time, I know.  But still, some of the better teams couldn't even stop Mount, they had 6 freaking shutouts......6!!!! 

I say better teams because the OAC is one of the best conferences in D-III.

They (CUW) won't be able to stop Garcon, Micheli or Kmic.  I do hope they play Wabash so the IBC has a fighting chance in the playoffs.


Almost forgot, Hester.....use a comma every once in a while.

   baseman201: 
      I saw that as well and thought Larries  "paper-hat" was a tad to tight. ;D
      The fumes in the trailer must be affecting his better judgement.
      Larry P is my boy but he either needs some serious counseling or
      he`ll end up on the front counter uttering that famous phase," you
     want fries and a biggie drink with that order."    :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 09, 2007, 10:37:09 AM
Gomer;

You are right about GC, however if you look at Conference stats only, they fell short of LC by a fairly good margin. LC's non-conference schedule killed their stats as they play a pretty tough schedule as does BU and CUW. When LC played their non conference games they were all ranked in the top 40 by D3football.com. BU and CUW also played a ranked team. Most of the other teams played some soft teams. At least MAC stepped up and played Augie who was ranked at that time.  I always look at the conference numbers to get a true comparison on how a team has done.

I think Maddog may have jumped ship to Whitewater since his coach went their this year as the OC. I can't believe he has not posted at least a couple of times.

Good Luck to you in the Off season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2007, 11:05:39 AM
Quote from: old 40 on November 09, 2007, 10:37:09 AM
Gomer;

You are right about GC, however if you look at Conference stats only, they fell short of LC by a fairly good margin. LC's non-conference schedule killed their stats as they play a pretty tough schedule as does BU and CUW. When LC played their non conference games they were all ranked in the top 40 by D3football.com. BU and CUW also played a ranked team. Most of the other teams played some soft teams. At least MAC stepped up and played Augie who was ranked at that time.  I always look at the conference numbers to get a true comparison on how a team has done.

I think Maddog may have jumped ship to Whitewater since his coach went their this year as the OC. I can't believe he has not posted at least a couple of times.

Good Luck to you in the Off season.


  Old40: 
      Can`t argue with your comments. Shows you do your "home-work."
      My stats were "over-all" and that`s what i based my comments  on
      you seperated yours, which is fine but it`s kind of like the apples and
    oranges Thing. 
      Two different directions, two different out comes. :)
     You said, "At least Mac stepped up....."  Your right but they also had a contract of sorts that  required it. Not picking on you at all, just  seeing it a
    little differently.
    As for Maddog:   He well could be sweeping out some lonely snowmobile
    plant in  Whitewater.    ;D     
   
    I`ve enjoyed your comments through out and hope you continue to
     add some of your thoughts to this forum.  Plus the future.
     We`ve still got saturdays post game comments plus the big one,
       CU-W vs who ever.    ::)
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Hester23 on November 09, 2007, 11:16:17 AM
Sorry baseman I didnt know that this was an english classroom. Old40 how are you going to say good job to CUC for improving this year, and not to EC who won zero games last year and got blown out pretty much every game. This year they where in alot of the games for aleast the first half and won two games... EC never gets any love on this Message Board  >:(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on November 09, 2007, 11:46:48 AM
GOMER....Come on baby....you got to have more confidence in me than that....Fries and a biggie hahaha  ;D  ;D  ;D you continue to make me laugh.....

All i got to say is that this year is full of upsets all over college football, i mean look at kansas for an example....WHO ARE THEY??? Its not march yet or is it....All i am saying with any team..especially D3...I has nothing to do with talent, its all about who plays MISTAKE free football....real simple..eliminate turnovers and big plays..... how does a team do that??? Eliminate mistakes in coverage or alignment or securing the football....MISTAKE FREE FOOTBALL...has nothing to do with how much more talent one team has or not....What happen to Michigan first game in the season....They clearly had more talent that APP state...but michigan made more mistakes than app state and app state capitalizes on those mistakes....Why cant CUW do that???

MAN....I got CUWs Back...you all do what you all have to do...RUN that option to a perfection, play smash mouth D and beat these boys....they are not GOD, but they can be beat and they will eventually be beaten...WHOS GOING TO DO IT??

CUW this is your opportunity.....Dont be satisfied with conference....be satisfied with beating a team that no one thought you can beat...it will make everything else that much better....

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2007, 12:18:57 PM
 Larry P:
       ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   

    I hope your keeping tabs on that "other" hair ball you live with.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 09, 2007, 02:54:52 PM
Quotethey are not GOD, but they can be beat and they will eventually be beaten...WHOS GOING TO DO IT??

I assume Whitewater has the only chance....

But that's it, Mount Union will not be beat this year, they will win yet another title.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 09, 2007, 04:39:31 PM
Hester;

You are right about EC. They did a great job this year. Good luck to them in the SLIC. Should surprise some people next year. They need more athletes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 09, 2007, 06:12:44 PM
Hester,
I agree with you also, EC deserves a little love.  Granted they didn't take the nation by storm or anything.  But they showed improvement, and that impressive.  I about Sh** a brick when i heard they beat CUC.  Hopefully that program has taken the first step in the right direction.  If they can start out in the SLIAC with a couple of wins, they may be able to shake their "laughing stock" image, and be a more respected team.  Good luck to them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 09, 2007, 06:15:36 PM
I want to see Tim Tebows girlfriend again.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SPARTAN on November 09, 2007, 06:50:31 PM
Congrats CUW.  I hope you don't get any player hurt in Aliance.  MT. UNION 76  CUW 0

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE "LET'S FIRE COACH COOPER" TALK??  Weird, he's a good coach and has turned that program around.  Before you reply understand he took over a team with 23 players.

What happened to MY MIGHTY MIGHTY SPARTANS???  We're slow and small.  Bad combo.

The IBFC is getting worse or the CCIW is getting much better.  Compare the scores from the late 90's, when AU joined the IBFC, to present.  It's not close.  Also, I watched AU/BU then caught the Wheaton/ Augie game at night.  Speed and size was not even close.  The gap is huge.

I love D3 FOOTBALL.  I speak the TRUTH.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: KnuteRock on November 09, 2007, 08:13:48 PM
I'm interested in who people think is the conference player of the year?
Best team?
Biggest suprise?
worst team?
Most underated?
Most over rated?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 09, 2007, 08:58:01 PM
I think the player of the year is Wilbur Allen.  He may not have the best stats (or me may, i havent looked)  But he is a dominant force on the D-line, he changes an offenses entire scheme, and is a born leader. 

Best team would have to go to the conference champs wouldnt it?  Although lakeland is damn good too.  I would say toss up between CUW and LC, with CUW getting the edge because they have the cheese bowl.

Biggest Suprise has to be Benedictine doesnt it?  I definatley did not see that coming.  Either that or GC having such a poor year.  I thought this year may be there time.

Worst team is not really a competition is it?

Underated was probably BU IMO.  I did not think they would do jack this year.

And i think the most overated team is Aurora, they have been getting by on their history for the past 3 years.  They have obviously been better than mac, eureka, etc... but they have not been on the level of lakeland and cuw, for several years now.  Since '05 they are 1-5 against lakeland and CUW, and most of those losses were not exactley nail biters.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 10, 2007, 07:51:01 AM
Cudud:
   Not to dispute your comments about Aurora but to open that window a
   little.   
   They won the conference championship in 2000going 7-0 but lost in the play-offs to Wittenberg.
   They tied for the championship in 2004( won the tie breaker) but lost to
    a really good Wooster team, 41-34. 
   The one dominant team in the IBC, winning or sharing the title 4 out of the last 5 years(2003-07) is CU_W. 
    The Baby Cheese Heads have shared the title in 2004 and won it out right in 2005 there by getting their first and only NCAA play-off apperance.
    In the last 5 years, CU-W has been "the man" while Aurora and LC
    have played second fiddle. 
    My comments are about conference titles and play-off games only.  :)
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 10, 2007, 01:35:05 PM
I was also only talking about conference games.  In fact i was more specific, and I was talking about games between Lakeland, Aurora and CUW.  And yes, im aware of the fact they were good in 2000, and 04, etc... But i said the last 3 years.  I have watched several of their games, (and played against them also).  And they are just not quite on the level of CUW and LC IMO.  Every year, the lakeland CUW game is very very tight, usually the falcons pull it out, but its close.  The games against aurora.... are not usually in doubt.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 10, 2007, 06:24:56 PM
Blackburn 33  Mac 20

Mac goes 0-10 for the first time in school history.

Word to the freshmen, stay around, teams never get better when they have players leave every year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 10, 2007, 06:55:17 PM
Wash U: 30
Greenville: 20

  Chicago: 51
  Eureka:  6
   
  Rockford: 14
  Aurora 7
 
  As NCAA Football posted........Blackburn: 33.The worst team in the IBFC
   20.  0-7 in conference play and 0-10 over-all.
  This record will never be broken. It may well be tied some where down
   the road but never broken.  What a legacy.
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 11, 2007, 08:00:34 AM
Early "pre" picks as shown on D-3:
   
   UW-WhiteWater Bracket
   (1) UW-WhiteWater
   ( eighth)  The Boys from Mequon

   The Official picks will be at 11:30 this morning(sunday.)   
   
   The Baby Cheese Heads played UW_W and lost 41-7
   CU-W beat LC 35-28. 
   On the above, just wanted to show a common foe.
   UW-W is ranked #2 in the D-3 Top 25.
   CU-W not in the top 25 or even the "also" rans.
   Does CU-W have a chance ?  Absolutely. 
   But I believe conventional wisdom  and a far superior team will
   win out. 
    But....... But, there is always hope.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on November 11, 2007, 10:36:31 AM
BLACKBURN?????? :-\ :-\ :-\ :o :o :o      DAMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on November 11, 2007, 10:48:44 AM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 11, 2007, 08:00:34 AM
Early "pre" picks as shown on D-3:
   
   UW-WhiteWater Bracket
   (1) UW-WhiteWater
   ( eighth)  The Boys from Mequon

   The Official picks will be at 11:30 this morning(sunday.)   
   
   The Baby Cheese Heads played UW_W and lost 41-7
   CU-W beat LC 35-28. 
   On the above, just wanted to show a common foe.
   UW-W is ranked #2 in the D-3 Top 25.
   CU-W not in the top 25 or even the "also" rans.
   Does CU-W have a chance ?  Absolutely. 
   But I believe conventional wisdom  and a far superior team will
   win out. 
    But....... But, there is always hope.   

Coach Z hates CuW, I wonder why... He will want to demolish them... UWW win 60-0 if this who they get in the match up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 11, 2007, 04:21:48 PM
Wow, CUW got a lucky bid not having to play Mount or Whitewater in the first round.  dont know too much about Bethel, could the ibfc get its first playoff win in its last year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 11, 2007, 07:39:20 PM
the following is a quote from the MIAC message board.  I asked them to tell me a little bit about Bethel and what they are all about, this is what i got..



Bethel...they are a smash mouth football team happy with a 3 to 4 yard gain on every play...their offensive line is relentless, their quarterback is a playmaker complemented by a very quick runningback, you don't just play Bethel, you play the clock as well.   Their passing game is not a strong suit, in fact they really only hit one pass play against the J's all day, but it was the biggest play of the game...

Defensively, they stunt, blitz and try to cause havoc from the first down you are on offense...they are quick and hit hard.  You can pass on them, because you really can't run on them...at least very well

To sum it up...they are the best team you will play this year, to get by them would be quite the achievement and to be honest I don't see it happening.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 11, 2007, 08:32:34 PM
Quote from: cudub on November 11, 2007, 07:39:20 PM
the following is a quote from the MIAC message board.  I asked them to tell me a little bit about Bethel and what they are all about, this is what i got..



Bethel...they are a smash mouth football team happy with a 3 to 4 yard gain on every play...their offensive line is relentless, their quarterback is a playmaker complemented by a very quick runningback, you don't just play Bethel, you play the clock as well.   Their passing game is not a strong suit, in fact they really only hit one pass play against the J's all day, but it was the biggest play of the game...

Defensively, they stunt, blitz and try to cause havoc from the first down you are on offense...they are quick and hit hard.  You can pass on them, because you really can't run on them...at least very well

To sum it up...they are the best team you will play this year, to get by them would be quite the achievement and to be honest I don't see it happening.

Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BC79BU08 on November 11, 2007, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: cudub on November 11, 2007, 07:39:20 PM
the following is a quote from the MIAC message board.  I asked them to tell me a little bit about Bethel and what they are all about, this is what i got..



Bethel...they are a smash mouth football team happy with a 3 to 4 yard gain on every play...their offensive line is relentless, their quarterback is a playmaker complemented by a very quick runningback, you don't just play Bethel, you play the clock as well.   Their passing game is not a strong suit, in fact they really only hit one pass play against the J's all day, but it was the biggest play of the game...

Defensively, they stunt, blitz and try to cause havoc from the first down you are on offense...they are quick and hit hard.  You can pass on them, because you really can't run on them...at least very well

To sum it up...they are the best team you will play this year, to get by them would be quite the achievement and to be honest I don't see it happening.
------------------------
This is the year for BU to go deep in the playoffs (of course I'm biased and have a son in the program, but they are that good too).  Bethel plays hard on all aspects of hte game but are some times inconsistant.
What's the line on CUW?    Looking forward to Saturday - another great day for D3 football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on November 11, 2007, 09:31:24 PM
I agree with each of Spartan's comments.  GP, trust me, but being "the man" presently in the IBFC is nothing to brag or write home to mom about.  Good luck, CUW you are going to need it.  I would say you are 6 TD underdog.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on November 11, 2007, 11:53:30 PM
seeing how Bethral beat Simpson 35-0... and CuW lost to Simpson 3-14... I think CuW can play with them. How much I do not know... Good news is it looks like Bethral Gives up a lot of points. So if CuW can shut down their offense winning is very possible.

Bethral imo will screw up and look pass CuW and lose 28-27.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 12, 2007, 12:22:46 AM
"Bethral"? ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: usee on November 12, 2007, 12:28:45 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 12, 2007, 12:22:46 AM
"Bethral"? ???

Greg,

its Bethel's name before they became christian. Kind of like Saul/Paul ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 12, 2007, 07:45:51 AM
The Boys from Mequon do have a shot at this game. 
   They score close with Bethel having the upper hand putting up almost
   33 per to CU-W`s 28+.
  Average rush for BU is 4.4 while CU-W get 5.2. Remember they play in the
    IBFC.
  Total offense: Average per play is close as you get get at 5.4 for BU and
    5.2 for CU-W.
  Top receiver for BU has 55 catches while CU-W`s top receiver has 30.
   The one important area that could well make the diffenence in this game is the field goal kicker for CU-W. The Boys from Mequon aren`t bashful about going for 3.
    They have tried 15 while making 7. He has decent range as he has been good out to 39 yds.
    Bethel, on the other hand, is 4 for 10 out to 34 yds.
   If CU-W plays these guys tough ( think positive) the "3" could well play
   a big part in the out come. 
  When The possibilty of CU-W playing Mout Union or WhiteWater was tossed around the thought was, one and done. Now, The Boys from Mequon have a legitmate shot at winning this game. Good luck to them. 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 12, 2007, 11:35:48 AM
Gomer-

Ok, you say they score about the same points per game, Bethel at 33 and CUW at 28....the difference is CUW does it in the IBC and Bethel does it in a considerably tougher conference, the MIAC.

I just don't think the game will be close, Bethel will be playing their scrubs about halfway through the 4th quarter.....maybe all of the 4th quarter...

Sure, I don't know much about Bethel, but I know they went 9-1 playing some tough teams, including the 17-14 win over St. John's who was #3 in the nation and undefeated.  Honestly St. John's would take CUW by at least 50. 

I mean come on, St. John's, St. Olaf and Concordia Moorhead in your conference and you beat all of them?  That's decent in my book.

Bethel - 56
CUW - 3

I gave them the 3 points you were talking about Gomer,  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 12, 2007, 01:18:50 PM
My take on the game is that CUW has a chance against Bethal but they have to play a perfect game. Bethal has some strong points that can put the hurt on CUW. Speed is the big one, Bethal has very quick backs with speed and their QB has speed. The Bethal defense is based on speed, more than any team they have seen this year.

It should be a game of Bethal's OL's blocking the CUW front 7, if that happens then it will be a long day for CUW. If it's a stalemate then they have a chance. How well is CUW? Big question. They will need their starting QB and running back to be healthly along with their secondary. If the Offense has the game of their life it will be a close game and special teams/turnovers will be the difference.

I saw Bethal play a couple of years ago and they were very good. Explosive and aggressive on Offense and on Defense they flew all over the field. They will be very tough to beat.

Predictions; Bethal 31- CUW14, I hope for a perfect world and CUW plays perfect and Bethal is looking beyond then CUW21-Bethal17.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 12, 2007, 01:27:57 PM
What do i Know0-
im not saying that cuw is the favorite.  But 6 touchdowns?  Sounds like your just bitter to me.


The only reason i give CUW any chance is that the person i talked to on the MIAC board said that Bethel is a power running team.  And if CUW has one outstanding area it would be the defensive line/linebackers run stopping ability, led by big wilbur.  Given that, i think i agree with you old 40, if CUW plays phenominal it could be a about a 3-7 point game either way.  If bethel comes to play, and the CUW offense looks like it did last week...... I take the royals by 24
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CougsFB on November 12, 2007, 01:41:53 PM
Gomer, the only reason I would say that CUW loses this game is because of the information given from the MIAC board. Granted, they might be biased because it is their team in the playoffs, if true... they said Bethel has a great run defense. Think about it, what does CUW do??? They have at most, a C- passing game and their offense is based off the run. If they do happen to run the ball well and get 3-5 yards a pop...then I do think CUW keeps this game closer than some people expect. Since I am part of the IBFC, I will not go against Mequon because there is possibility they could win this game and the "3" will help them.

CUWs keys for winning this game:
1. Control the clock more than Bethel (it was said they like to run the clock and keep control....steal that away from them)
2. 3-5 yds per carry (able to control clock with this and get the defense tired)
3. FIELD GOALS "3"
4. Huge defensive plays (CUW has some good players at LB and DB...lets not forget about Wilbur in the middle. He could definately change the way Bethel has to run the ball and this might cause some frustration. GET BIG WILBUR)
5. Special teams...CUW did very well with special teams this year and this needs to be huge in this game.

The only thing that scares me about CUW is how close some teams in the IBFC played them. Hopefully they come out to play on Saturday and give the IBFC their first and last win in the D-3 playoffs.

Is anyone attending this game?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 12, 2007, 03:13:54 PM
baseman201.........cougsFB:
  Guys,  I said.........................They have a shot.   I put up some facts and added comments.
   You countered with your reasons........fine.  Point is it made you think.
   that`s what discussion is all about.  Plus, it was civil.

  Baseman201: Did I detect some, woulda, coulda,shoulda in there?  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 12, 2007, 04:04:41 PM
Gomer-

I agree, we are keeping this a civilized conversation, unlike some in the past (not naming any names though)

All opinions are welcomed of course, and in this instance ours differ, but that's ok, we all know mine is right.... ;D

Ok just kidding, but we will see come Saturday.  I wish I was attending the game but unfortunately Minnesota is a big drive.  I enjoyed it in 2005 when Lakeland came to play Augustana, since I live about 10 minutes from it.

CougsFB-

If what you say is true about Bethels run defense then CUW is in for a LOOOOONG game....but I guess you already established that, I am just reiterating your statement.

And Gomer.....I never......EVER use woulda, coulda, shoulda, that's copyrighted by you....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 12, 2007, 05:34:44 PM
baseman201:

                  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GoldandBlueBU on November 12, 2007, 05:52:52 PM
Bethel is 0-3 all time in the playoffs, so bethel's guys have to have that on their mind...having a tendency to choke in the playoffs, and going against a team they've never played, anything could happen.
Having said that, Bethel completely owned simpson, if bethel wasn't playing their 2nds alot of the 2nd half, it would have been much more lopsided.  And CUW lost to simpson, only putting up 3 points.
Also, I agree with Baseman in saying that your comparissons of bethel's stats vs. CUW's carries little signifigance.  BU plays in the MIAC, which is consistently a tough conference, and much tougher than the IBC.
BU 42- CUW 10
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on November 12, 2007, 07:24:02 PM
cudub- trust me, I am not bitter.  I would love to see CUW and the IBFC win a playoff game.  But, CUW's history in the playoffs, the way they have played this season and especially the last 3 games, I can't imagine them keeping the game within 6 TD.  If they do, I will certainly eat my words.  I don't eat my words often though.

For those talking about a perfect game, they haven't played a perfect game yet this year in one of the worst conferences in a D3.  What makes anyone believe they will play a perfect game to one of the best teams in the country???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CougsFB on November 12, 2007, 10:00:13 PM
Gomer- I'm keeping it civil. I was just restating what was said from the MIAC board...I also think CUW has a shot....if they come out and play.

What everyone needs to realize about the CUW/Simpson game is that Mequon was running the spread offense. Mequon...RUNNING THE SPREAD??? The new offense installed obviously didn't work for a team that has like I said before, a C- passing game. So everyone could throw the Bethel beat Simpson whatever to nothing and CUw lost 14- the magical number this week..."3"

And to set things straight...I am not rooting for CUW, I am rooting for the IBFC. Being a former player, I cannot go for another team I played against.

GO IBFC! :P

Baseman...you're a pimp.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 13, 2007, 01:18:19 AM
Being a Minnesotan, I am a huuuge fan of the MIAC.  They get quality athletes from the Minneapolis/St.Paul Metro area.  However, thier conference is pretty top heavy.  The top 3 or 4 teams are damn good, but the rest of the conference isn't anything special. 

Bethel is a team that plays consistent, disciplined football...the way it is supposed to be played, not like the way it is played in the IBFC.  However, I believe that CUW also plays very disciplined football.  Bethel's style of play is very similar to CUW's style of play.  I think that this is going to be a very good game that will come down to the wire...but for this to happen, CUW must play consistent the whole way through.  Yeah they are the underdog, but if CUW plays consistent and disciplined they can pull the upset and get the IBFC thier first playoff victory.  For that to happen CUW must do the following:

1) Own the Time of Possession battle...Bethel like to hold on to the ball so CUW must make them play out of their style.
2)NO TURNOVERS...this is a key to winning any football game, but against a really good Bethel squad this will be a must.
3) Answer Bethel's big plays/scores...If CUW can answer each time, it will keep Bethel from getting the momentum and keeping it. The MIAC teams average a couple thousand fans a game, and Bethel is right near the top in attendance.  They will have a big crowd and momentum swing to the home team will put the Falcons away.

The list could go on, but I think that those 3 areas will be key factors in deciding whether or not the IBFC gets thier first playoff victory...Good Luck CUW!!

CUW: 24
Bethel: 21
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2007, 07:01:59 AM
CougsFB:
   Your comment was .....civil.  That was the point I was trying to make.
   One other point.  When i said, "remember they (CU-W) play in the IBFC."
   ref the stats I posted was said tonque in cheek. I was hoping you (anybody ) would read between the lines. That this conference (IBFC) doesn`t have the same  caliber  of
   competition as in the MIAC.  There-by the stats listed may not be of equal value.   :)
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on November 13, 2007, 07:36:22 AM
MISTAKE FREE FOOTBALL!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 13, 2007, 10:29:28 AM
I played in the IBC and I honestly do wish the IBC would win a playoff game.  But after watching other schools play at their competition level, reality kind of sets in and I realize it just won't happen.

Honestly, if you live near a D-III that's not in the IBC go ahead and catch a game, the difference is amazing.  Like Cougswillwin said, he is from Minnesota, the competition up there is amazing.   Which is more then I can say about the Twins, but that is a different subject right???

Everyone knows my prediction so I won't even worry about saying anything else.

CougsFB-

Who are you??
I have been called a pimp on many occasions,  ;D

Keeping it Civil....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 13, 2007, 12:49:30 PM
The unfortunate thing is, is that was the type of football played in this conference for in the years leading up to the last couple.  Even last year CUW had a great competative team beating Simpson and North Central. 

It is the desparity between the good and bad teams that has made this conference weak

Beating teams by 30 - 70 points on a regular basis does nothing for you.  As any coach will tell you competition is what makes you better.  Every player knows that.  If you have someone pushing you hard at your position, or on the other side of the ball, whether it is practice or a game, it makes you compete which makes you better.  Half of the teams in this conference don't require you to compete because they are terrible. You simply show up and you can practically win at some places.  I hate that about this conference, that is why it is weak, lack of competition, or at least good competition. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 13, 2007, 02:55:40 PM
Quote from: KnuteRock on November 09, 2007, 08:13:48 PM
I'm interested in who people think is the conference player of the year?
Best team?
Biggest suprise?
worst team?
Most underated?
Most over rated?


Conference player of the year I'm going to have to go with Dominic Kegal at GC. The stats all prove it and he proved it. Every game it was said, "control Kegal you control the game."

The facts why he should be Conference Player of the Year............
- GC is 1st in Offense in the IBC
- Dom is tied for 1st in Passing Efficiency with 114.5 yds/game
- Dom is 1st in Rushing with 110.5 yrds/game
- Dom is 1st in Scoring with 9pts/ game
- Dom is 1st in Total Rushing Yards with 1105
- Dom is 1st in Total Offense with 266.8 yds/ game
- Dom is 2nd in Total Passing Yards with 1563
- Dom is 3rd in All Purpose yds with 108.7 yds/game
- Week 9, Week 7, Week 2  Offensive Player of the Week Honors

I would think that would wrap up Player of the Year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CougsFB on November 13, 2007, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 13, 2007, 10:29:28 AM

CougsFB-

Who are you??
I have been called a pimp on many occasions,  ;D

Keeping it Civil....

I am Billy Bob from the Trailer Park of Eureka College. I am kidding. You know who this is...I lived on your floor your last year....HAMSTER RACES!!!! hahaha


Looks like the running back from Bethel has made the front page...interesting statistic.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 13, 2007, 09:10:44 PM
FalcsFB...
You are absolutely right. The competition sucks in this conference. That is a big reason why the conference champ hasn't won a playoff game yet, they are used to the soft competition. When all teams can compete at a higher level and compete for a whole game, then the conference will become better. Now it is too late for that to happen with the IBFC, but hopefully it will happen with the NAC and SLIAC.

Baseman...
Dont you start talkin crap about my Twins. They just went out and signed Craig Monroe. You know...the underacheving 30 year old who's stock went down making him affordable for the Twins to sign. It seems like Deja Vu...First Rondell White and Brett Boone...Then Sydney Ponson and Ramon Ortiz...Now Craig Monroe...expectations arent too high in the Land 'O Lakes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 14, 2007, 08:05:14 AM
Something for the "D" line for The Boys from Mequon to ponder.
   The entire offensive line for Bethel made the Div-3, Team Of The Week
   for this past week-ends performance.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_grad on November 14, 2007, 01:57:48 PM
Hey Gomer,

I was at Mac over the weekend, couldn't make the game but I will say one thing....



I heard cowbells all the way across campus   :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 14, 2007, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 14, 2007, 08:05:14 AM
Something for the "D" line for The Boys from Mequon to ponder.
   The entire offensive line for Bethel made the Div-3, Team Of The Week
   for this past week-ends performance.
   


If there is one aspect of the concordia team is a legitimate force, (not just a force in the IBFC) it is there defensive line, IMO.  You would be hard pressed to find a better NT than big wilbur.  And if they're d-line coach got ahold of the same information you just posted, i guarantee that is just more motivation.  Even if CUW gets stomped, that d-line will have a decent game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 14, 2007, 03:22:27 PM
Quote from: mac_grad on November 14, 2007, 01:57:48 PM
Hey Gomer,

I was at Mac over the weekend, couldn't make the game but I will say one thing....



I heard cowbells all the way across campus   :P

   mac_grad:
              If you heard them and I don`t doubt it for a minute. They were
              being rung by Blackburn.
             Those cowbells are part of their fight song.   ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 14, 2007, 03:40:31 PM
Quote from: Gomer Pyle on November 14, 2007, 03:22:27 PM
Quote from: mac_grad on November 14, 2007, 01:57:48 PM
Hey Gomer,

I was at Mac over the weekend, couldn't make the game but I will say one thing....



I heard cowbells all the way across campus   :P

   mac_grad:
              If you heard them and I don`t doubt it for a minute. They were
              being rung by Blackburn.
             Those cowbells are part of their fight song.   ;) :D ;D

Sorry Mac_Grad, I have to back Gomer on this one.  I was at the game, Macs fans were pretty quiet the whole game except in the first three minutes that we had the lead.  after that, Blackburn dominated, rushing for about or over 400 yds on mac. 

Anyway, i have to agree with most of the comments about CUW.  Pirrilo 9, you are right, they do have to play mistake free football to have a shot, but even with that, it is still a dim chance CUW wins in my opinion. 

we have to put the size factor in the game as well.  many of the teams in the ibfc were undersized compared to many other teams in division 3 football.  this is no exception for CUW.  even if they do play mistake free football i think in the end Bethal just overpowers CUW.  plus they are quick.  this could be a long game for the Falcons.  However, I hope they keep it close and it would be nice to see the ibfc get their first and only win.

but, probably won't happen

Bethal 49 CUW 20 

One more thing, just wanted to say congrats to CUW in making the playoffs, (little late), but job well done.  Good job BU, you guys exceeded some peoples expectations this year, good luck next year, and good job to all the seniors who played their last games in the ibfc.  good luck in life, and to CUW's seniors, good luck in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 14, 2007, 05:47:00 PM
If you take a look at the bracket capsules, D3 isn't giving CUW much of a chance either, take a look.

But they are right, it's where the IBC ends, unfortunately.

NCAA Football-

Your 49-20 seems like a realistic score and that may be close to what it ends up being....Still say AT LEAST 56 though.

CougsFB-

Ahhhh yes, my hamster was undefeated in hamster races, took home the coveted pringles can trophy every time. 

Ah the memories....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CougsFB on November 14, 2007, 08:31:10 PM
THE WHOLE O-LINE WAS PLAYER OF THE WEEK FOR BETHEL???

I will agree with you on some aspects of your comment cudub in that CUW has a good D-line. However, the only good aspect of the d-line is Wilbur. Why do the other guys look good??? The run has to be bounced around outside almost 90% of the time making it easier for the d-ends to make plays. Big props to Wilbur because when teams are changing their running game because of one person, it sure does say something about that person and their abilities. Now, don't get me wrong...I believe the numbers are 98 and 95 on the d-line and those are some decent sized guys. I would take #40 out of this game because he is waaayyyyyyy undersized and speed isn't going to work in this game for him. put 95 and 98 on the ends and let Wilbur clog the middle to try and prevent anything from happening between the hashes.


Baseman-
We all know you hamster was on roids and that is illegal...the Pringle Cup is a disgrace to hamster racing all over the world and I am not taking that back. ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TEX07 on November 15, 2007, 10:03:26 AM
First I would like to say congrats to CUW!!!! I think that cuw has a great chance in winning this game and it will come down to their d-line and linebacker play. CUW has a very good d-line with #40 he is a fast and strong guy but lacks it in height, numbers 98 and 95 are big and can move well, and then the defensive player of the year in Big Wilber allen, no need to say more.  Bethel depends a lot on their run game and CUW front seven feeds off a team when they try to run the ball, Statistically they have proved all year long you can't run the ball on them and it looks like their pass defense is getting a lot better as well.  It's going to be exciting to see If CUW can get the IBFC their first playoff win, good luck to both teams!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Timewilltell on November 15, 2007, 10:20:36 AM
I stood and watched GC RUN were ever they wanted too on CUW. Includeing right up the middle of the defense. If Bethel has the running game you all say, It will be a long day.

Bethel- 45
Cuw 17
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2007, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: CougsFB on November 14, 2007, 08:31:10 PM
THE WHOLE O-LINE WAS PLAYER OF THE WEEK FOR BETHEL???

Our Team of the Week is always an entire line, not five separate linemen. This is not a surprise.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Freebird on November 15, 2007, 11:21:48 AM
From a Bethel alum I would like to wish everyone attending the game safe travels.  Obviously this have been a great year for CUW and they should be proud of their accomplishments.  Saturday will be a great game and may the best team win!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 15, 2007, 03:00:03 PM
Anybody read the "easiest game" party of this weeks ATN??? Ouch man, ouch.


And Freebird, no offense, but this has not been that great of a year for CUW, its been a good year, but not great.  Last season was great.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 15, 2007, 09:25:50 PM
cudub-

Yeah, they said it's the "easiest game", but most of us knew that already with exception of a few are are picking CUW to win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 15, 2007, 10:51:08 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 15, 2007, 09:25:50 PM
cudub-

Yeah, they said it's the "easiest game", but most of us knew that already with exception of a few are are picking CUW to win.

Who's picking CUW to win.   ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 16, 2007, 12:04:41 AM
I know Cougswillwin did

But you can't trust Twin fans.... ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 16, 2007, 10:14:56 AM
I think CUW can win (bias aside) but just like others have said, they would have to play ABSOLOUTLY MISTAKE FREE FOOTBALL.

Offensively -

No turn overs

No Drive stalling or ending penalties ie. holdings, delay of game (something we have always had a problem with)

And we must get the talented recievers involved early, be two dimensional keep the defense guessing, pass on first down occasionally.  NO PLAY ACTION ON 3rd AND LONG!!!!

Defensively

No plays over 20 yards

Bend but don't break

Force THEM to pass by geting them in third and long situation

Hopefully it will be a good game, it will be nice to see a good non-conference opponent.  Congratulations to Bethel on  great year!  I look forward to seeing this game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 16, 2007, 03:43:23 PM
Even if CUW plays mistake free football (which is ridiculious to even say because even the best teams out there make mistakes ALLL the time) they still get waxed by 40. 

Maybe it's a good thing this is the last year for the IBC.  We have been known as the worst conference in D-III football for who knows how long.

But no more, it's time to start fresh and new in the new conferences.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on November 16, 2007, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 16, 2007, 03:43:23 PM
Even if CUW plays mistake free football (which is ridiculious to even say because even the best teams out there make mistakes ALLL the time) they still get waxed by 40. 

Maybe it's a good thing this is the last year for the IBC.  We have been known as the worst conference in D-III football for who knows how long.

But no more, it's time to start fresh and new in the new conferences.

The NEFC is pretty bad as well.  I think they have a worse playoff record than us, even though it's only by 1 game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Freebird on November 16, 2007, 07:02:01 PM
I'm confused about what is happening to this conference after this season...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 16, 2007, 08:16:17 PM
Thefreebird;

Don't be confused. In 2008 the NAC and SLIAC will consume these IBFC teams.

AU, BU, CUC, CUW and Lakeland join Wisc. Luthern, Maranatha Baptist and Rockford to for the Northern Athletics conference,

MAC, EC and Greenville will join the SLIAC. I do not know the other members of that conference. Sorry. I hope this helps.


The IBFC all Conference picks are out on the IBFC conference web site. Congrats to all the players who made this team, the last all conference team of the IBFC. Also congrats to the LC and CUW Head C ;Doaches for their COY selection. Good Job by all.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formersliaccommish on November 16, 2007, 10:33:16 PM
old 40,

The SlIAC will have Blackburn, Principia, Westminster, Huntingdon (AL), and LaGrange (GA), in addition to Eureka, Greenville, and MacMurray.

Its website is www.sliac.oirg and you can get more information about the conference and next year's foootball championship there.

The conference will have an AQ in 2010.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 17, 2007, 06:59:50 AM
  Front Page  D-3,   Five weeks, one Goal:
    " can Bethel end its play-off futility?"

   Looks like The Boys from Mequon do have a fighting chance.
   Will they(CU-W) be one and done or will they play one of those games
   that finally comes together where all cylinders are clicking, turning CU-W
     into a finely oiled machine? 
    When the fat lady steps up to sing the fight song, be ready.  This could
     be the "year" she sings the ballad of, The Boys from Mequon. 
     Think positively.   :)
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 17, 2007, 07:11:40 AM
Old 40:
  Thanks for the heads up on the All-Conference posting.
   First time in awhile it`s been posted in a timely fashion. The All IBFC stuff.
   Who ever is keeping that site up to date is doing a nice job.
   MacMurray needs to hire that person to do their site. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: PIROLLO9 on November 17, 2007, 08:40:25 AM
Good luck to those boys in Mequon..........Run that option to perfection.......I predict a 41 to 28 CUW WIN...........Send us out right boys
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 17, 2007, 01:11:13 PM
After one drive bethel is as advertised, 4 minutes of punch you in the mouth football resulting in a TD
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 17, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
So much for the perfect game.  The offense cant do anything, despite two turnovers forced by the defense.  Not to mention the play calling seems to be, once again, questionable at times.  Something needs to give with this offense and its hierarchy next year.

Bethel- 21            4:00 till half
CUW- 0




(at least its not as bad at half as NCC was last year)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 17, 2007, 03:28:20 PM
I predicted 56-3

Looks like my prediction may hold up....

But still a half to play.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 17, 2007, 03:28:52 PM
Final

Bethel 28
concordia 0


good effort falcon defense.


even the IBFC message board sucks, nobody is talking on playoff day?? sad
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 17, 2007, 03:31:06 PM
wow, the defense really stepped it up the 2nd half.

The score was ALOT better then I thought.  I guess a moral victory?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Freebird on November 17, 2007, 07:28:43 PM
Best of luck in your new conference next season CUW and safe travels home from MN.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CUWsdragonfly on November 18, 2007, 09:14:04 PM
Cuw may not have won but you sure showed alot of people what kind of heart your team is made of...............................I knew the score was not going to be what some of you people were predicting.  Best luck to all of you players next year in your new conference. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lineman79 on November 19, 2007, 02:14:34 PM
No misprint. The Red Devils open with Knox, play CUC the second game, have a bye week and then open SLIAC play which for football has seven other teams. I thought that there was a minimum nuber of games you had to play to qualify for the playoffs. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 20, 2007, 12:26:39 PM
baseman201..........Gregory Sager:
    Both you guys enjoy your Turkey. ;D
    Assuming your are correct and it appears you are, I stand corrected. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 21, 2007, 04:28:43 PM
This cant be gomer was wrong on something?? I find this highly doubtful.  Im sure that pat, baseman, and the websites were wrong.  Somebody double check.  ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on November 27, 2007, 11:06:29 AM
last all-conference team has been anounced.... it looks like at least half of the starters for all teams made hon-men. or better.  How many all-conf qb's can you have only 1 can play at a time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on November 29, 2007, 01:54:20 PM
Congratulations to Wilbur Allen from concordia for making alternate defensive lineman for the aztec bowl
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on December 07, 2007, 12:57:01 PM
Today let us remember our Soldiers and Sailors who lost their lives at Pearl Harbor and those who survived the attack in our prayers and thoughts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on December 08, 2007, 02:50:48 PM
41-0 Mount Union at the half...62-14 Final!

These guys are unstoppable!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 09, 2007, 11:03:30 PM
Cougswillwin-

Your face is unstoppable...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CougsFB on December 10, 2007, 10:22:24 AM
Yea Cougswillwin...what baseman said...your face IS unstoppable.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: cudub on December 10, 2007, 09:49:26 PM
I cant lie, when i read the post that said "your face is unstoppable" i laughed.... a lot.... for a while.  awesome.  Hey when does the new board for the nathcon start, hopefully there will be some people who actually want to talk some football on there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on December 13, 2007, 11:11:13 AM
Oh yeah? Well You...guys are...stoppable.....Shut Up!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on December 20, 2007, 05:30:39 PM
How bout that National Championship game, eh?


Yeah, it was pretty sweet.
Title: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2007, 11:56:13 AM
I'm creating this board and merging the Illini-Badger Conference board into it, since there's a large shared population. I'll create a new board for the SLIAC. Hopefully it will get some conversation. :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on December 22, 2007, 02:17:59 PM
Wow...we got the NAC board and everything now.  This conference has to be legit!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 23, 2007, 07:22:14 AM
   Looking forward to the "new" SLIAC board.   

  Happy Holidays to all.   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 24, 2007, 07:58:25 PM
NAthCon In-Conference potential "statement" match-ups (barring unforeseen developments:)

10/04/08:  At the top:  Rockford vs. Lakeland
                  Near the bottom:  WLC vs. Concordia-Chicago.

10/18/08:  Rockford vs. WLC (rivalry restoration matchup--Regents have had WLC's number the last few games).

10/25/08:  Concordia-Chicago vs. Maranatha

11/01/08:  Rockford vs. Benedictine

11/08/08:  Concordia-WI at Lakeland

11/15/08:  Upper half:  Rockford at Concordia-WI
                  Lower half:  WLC @ Maranatha

  (I know I'm early, but what the heck?)

(BTW, Gomer, this poster seconds your Happy Holiday wishes).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on December 27, 2007, 10:40:16 AM
WLCALUM83;

Good set of key match ups but I also think the AU/Rockford game is a statement game. AU has lost the last 2 games. IMO, Rockford and WLC can make some immediate impact in the NAC. 2008 should be a dog fight and will anyone unseat CUW?

Happy New Year to all, be safe if you are traveling and enjoy all the bowl games.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 27, 2007, 05:03:18 PM
It should be a dog fight and I believe CUW will contend but not win......IMO
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: evacuee on December 28, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
If you want to promote division 3 sports, do a google search for pontiac game changing performance and vote for the only d3 play that will likely be seen there for a long time.  We only have a few days left and Appalachain State is currently in the lead. 

A vote for Trinity is a vote for d3football.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on December 31, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
I hope everyone has a Happy New Year. Please be safe if you are traveling. Tonight brings out many nuts that drive when they should not.

It will be a new conference for the New Year. I look for a good competitive season in 2008. Welcome to all the new schools, WLC, Rockford and Maranatha. IMO the new conference will have an additional incentive of the all sports trophy, which adds to the competition.

Are there any coaching changes in the league for 2008, either have changed or a possible change? Also what are the schedules for 2008 for the non conference piece? The conference schedules are posted on the NAC web site.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on January 02, 2008, 04:13:39 PM
Insight on the OAC board has Lakeland and Aurora's HCs with ties to the opening at Capital.  It wouldn't hurt my feelings to see the AU coach go, but then again why would Capital hire a coach who has never had a winning record?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 04, 2008, 01:19:42 PM
That reads like just a listing of former Capital assistants with head coaching experience.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on January 18, 2008, 11:31:26 AM
There is a new expansion arena football team in Milwuakee called the Bonecrushers coached by Gilbert Brown, the ex-packer.  It looks as if there will be some old players from CUW and LC on the team.  Its pretty bizarre.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on January 18, 2008, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: falcsfb on January 18, 2008, 11:31:26 AM
There is a new expansion arena football team in Milwuakee called the Bonecrushers coached by Gilbert Brown, the ex-packer.  It looks as if there will be some old players from CUW and LC on the team.  Its pretty bizarre.

  Looked them up.
  As you stated, this will be their anaugural season in the (CIFL) Continental Indoor Football League.
  Checked their roster to see if they had any players yet. None listed.
  As they build their team we`ll see If any D-3 guys make it.
 
 

     
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on January 18, 2008, 04:48:49 PM
As of right now we are about to head into training camp from which final cuts will be made; then they will post the roster.  But its looking pretty good on the depth chart for some guys.  Muiari (spelling?)old QB from LC and an old LB and DL from LC as well.  From CUW there is George Carpenter, Rick Hutchins and Evan Janousky, all DB's and Bobby Langston DL from CUW.  They are all doing really well and are expected to have an ecxellent chance of making the team of only 21 roster spots. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on January 19, 2008, 06:37:20 AM
Good luck to all those guys. Plus, You know Maddog will be happy if his son makes the squad.
 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on January 21, 2008, 08:19:58 PM
What's going on with the NAC? Has anyone heard any news regarding coaching changes, recruiting or 2008 non-conference schedules?

I have heard that AU, BU and CUC are expecting a large Freshman class. Any thoughts on anything? The board has been dead.

Any news from anyone?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lakelandfootball on January 22, 2008, 01:06:50 PM
Lakeland's non-conference has these three teams: central college in iowa and college of mount st. joe and carthage college!  Who does everyone else got next year for non conference?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on January 22, 2008, 02:27:43 PM
those are three TOUGH non conference games...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2008, 02:44:05 PM
Might be easier than the last two years, though, with Whitewater, Carthage and Oshkosh. That is brutal.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on January 22, 2008, 04:16:52 PM
Lakeland has 3 toughies allright. That gives them a good beginning to get ready for the NAC schedule. Last year their 3 non conference games preped them for a good run in the league. I beleive they had  many injuries during those games but it sure got them ready for their conference.

I heard CUW stepped up their non conference schedule also with Bethel, Valpo and North Central. This is also a tough non conference schedule.

IMO, in the long run it will help them make another run in the league. I don't think playing teams like Blackburn, Principia, and Macmurray will get you ready to make a challenge in the league. I mean NO disrespect to those teams but they are not in the caliber of the 6 teams CUW and Lakeland are playing.

I also saw on the Olivet College web site that they have schedule CUC. Good for them in stepping up to play a play off team. That will help their program no matter what the score. Beleivers this will help your program.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on January 22, 2008, 05:58:01 PM
You're right Pat,

who is Whitewater again?  Are they in South Dakota?   ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 23, 2008, 07:15:23 AM
Quote from: old 40 on January 22, 2008, 04:16:52 PM
Lakeland has 3 toughies allright. That gives them a good beginning to get ready for the NAC schedule. Last year their 3 non conference games preped them for a good run in the league. I beleive they had  many injuries during those games but it sure got them ready for their conference.

I heard CUW stepped up their non conference schedule also with Bethel, Valpo and North Central. This is also a tough non conference schedule.

Yep, that would be two really good programs as well. Bethel would be a step above Simpson and for that matter, even though Valpo isn't a great program, they are better than Eureka or Greenville, who I would guess drop off because of the conference change.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on February 03, 2008, 10:35:38 PM
Yeah, Lakeland getting some higher tier opponents for non conference games, good luck to them this year.

I can see some more Florida kids coming to CUC, they had about 30 recruits from Florida in 2007, so hopefully most of them can stick around then add some more.  I am hoping this year to be the turning point for CUC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: New Tradition on February 13, 2008, 02:12:38 PM
Quote from: old 40 on January 22, 2008, 04:16:52 PM
I heard CUW stepped up their non conference schedule also with Bethel, Valpo and North Central. This is also a tough non conference schedule.

While the point you are making is still 100% valid, I think you may be mistaken about CUW's non-conference schedule for this upcoming year.  Concordia's website has their non-conference schedule for 2008 listed as follows:

September
6        @ Bethel
13      @ Carroll
14      Wheaton

Wheaton and North Central have been neck and neck in the race for the CCIW title for the last 3 years (with others thrown into that race as well) so the schedule should be equally as difficult for CUW.  Although they no longer play the formidable Falcons of CUW, North Central's non-conference schedule is also pretty difficult this year (although not quite as tough as Lakeland's, imho)

North Central's non-conference schedule:
September   
13        Ohio Northern University
20       @ Benedictine University (Ill.) 7 pm
27       @ Olivet College (Mich.) 6 pm
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on February 13, 2008, 03:07:09 PM
New Tradition

I just checked the CUW web site and I think they put Carrol in wrongly. They show the place of the contest as Valpo, In. I talked to the Athletic Dept. and they confirmed from Gabrielson that they are playing Valpo at Valpo.

Your conference (CCIW) teams play very few if any easy teams, while many teams in the NAC (old IBFC) play some lower tier teams. It's good to see CUW, Lakeland, and Rockford step up to some better quality teams for non-conference. IMO it makes them more prepared to challenge for the conference. I also see CUC scheduled Olivet the same team NCC is playing. Thats a real step up for CUC and will be good for there program. WLU has not posted their schedule for 2008.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on March 14, 2008, 03:21:19 PM
I just got a whiff of some news happening up in Mequon....

Coach Gabe has retired.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on March 14, 2008, 06:35:32 PM
Cougswillwin;

You are correct. I just checked the CUW web site and it is posted that Gabe has left CUW to assume the AD position at a High School in New Berlin WI. Good Luck to a very Good coach and a Good guy with a lot of class.

Any thoughts on his replacement? The AD is the OC and he may want the job. IMO it is a very good job. I would expect alot of applicants. They will still be tough to beat next year. They have al ot of talent coming back.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: cudub on March 15, 2008, 09:53:55 PM
if the OC gets the job, than dont expect CUW to be as good next year.  He is not head coaching material, doesn't motivate effectively.  Ive heard rumors of one or two former players applying.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 27, 2008, 06:10:58 PM
Hey, I know this is a football board and everything but I just wanted to bring attention to everyone the awesome job that CUCs baseball team is doing this year.

They are currently #25 in the nation right now with an 11-2 record (should have been 12-1, but that's the woulda, coulda, shoulda game,  :)) 

They are the team to beat this year for baseball.

Anyhow, just bringing that to everyones attention who follows Northern Athletic Conference sports.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on March 31, 2008, 04:43:13 PM
Any CUW Falcons hear of what progress is being made on naming a new head football coach? Will the AD go after the job? Or one of the other assisants go after it. IMO, it is a real good job with grate talent and facilities. I hope some of the Falcon backers will keep us posted. Good Luck in the search.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 08, 2008, 02:48:24 AM
Here's an update on former Lakeland QB Ryan Maiuri:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=736274
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 10, 2008, 07:26:18 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 08, 2008, 02:48:24 AM
Here's an update on former Lakeland QB Ryan Maiuri:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=736274

Last year (if memory serves correctly) Maiuri was with the Stuebenville team that folded--is history about to repeat itself??

http://milwaukee.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2008/04/07/daily19.html?jst=b_ln_hl
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on April 10, 2008, 06:26:15 PM
Congrats to the new CUW Falcon Head FB Coach. It looks like he will be a good fit for CUW. I wonder if he will install the same Blitz R US Defense that he had at Carthage. Carthage has been fairly successful with it in the last 6 years. Of course personnel will certainly help. CUW has  a good group returning especially at LB. He has a good number of athletes and a good coaching staff to work with. They should be the odds on favorite to win the 1st. NAC Championship. Good Luck to the new coach.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on April 10, 2008, 07:36:42 PM
as an alum I am less than happy -- story is from the school 5 guys were "approached" to look into the job - no national search?  CU had a chance to turn the corner with a weakened conference (NAC) and now a long time friend of the AD is named the HFC? no public announcemnt for the opening - no use of the well searched and respected D3 football site to get the news out?  what about looking to Jim Zebrowski?  propbably would have declined but at least the schools search would have SEEMED legit

I heard it as well that Gabe was accused of "rallying the troops" to send emails to the pres and AD -- not true I got a letter that said he resigned thats it

what the alum did was show respect and love for their former coach and we were seeking only the best chance for our team -- we all put blood and sweat and tears into that field and team and now - this charade makes it all a mockery --

sorry for the rant but as you can tell many of us alum are hurt and disappointed

coach Etter -- I am behind you and will support you and the team -- no doubt

but I am more than displeased and disallusioned by the unprofessional approach taken to get us to this palce

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 10, 2008, 08:58:37 PM
Zebrowski applied for the St. Thomas job and the Wabash job this offseason. I don't think he would've been interested in CUW even if they'd approached him.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on April 11, 2008, 08:37:58 AM
I agree Zebrowski would have said no --  I am upset that 5 men we "approached" - no call for resumes - no national search  -- whatever the case it will be percseived as neopotism from the outside

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RedmenBigD on April 11, 2008, 10:37:27 AM
Concordia just got a GREAT Coach in Greg Etter.  Without a doubt they will continue to be successful and if not this move will help them be a dominate force in years to come.  CONGRATS to Coach Etter and Concordia, look forward to the scrimmage it will be a Carthage reunion with Etter and Walker (CUW) and the rest of the Carthage staff...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RedmenBigD on April 11, 2008, 10:46:23 AM
Here is the link to the Kenosha Paper....

http://ksn.kenoshanews.com/view_article.php?articleNum=2817811 (http://ksn.kenoshanews.com/view_article.php?articleNum=2817811)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 13, 2008, 11:37:52 AM
Here's an article on several NFL Draft prospects (including Lakeland's MacArthur White):

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=738653

(Note:  Scroll down a ways for the info on White.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: cudub on April 15, 2008, 02:26:16 PM
I agree it seems as though this search was not all that it could have been.  Especially knowing that the AD is long time friends with him.  And also that the AD is the offensive coordinator, and he just happened to hire a defensive man?  That does not sound like coincidence to me.  Also, the recently hired coach Walker probably has ties to etter from when he coached at Carthage.  Im fully behind the program and its coach, however I feel that this was a convenient hire, and possibly not the best one.


Best of luck falcons
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RedmenBigD on April 16, 2008, 07:16:19 AM
Quote from: cudub on April 15, 2008, 02:26:16 PM
I agree it seems as though this search was not all that it could have been.  Especially knowing that the AD is long time friends with him.  And also that the AD is the offensive coordinator, and he just happened to hire a defensive man?  That does not sound like coincidence to me.  Also, the recently hired coach Walker probably has ties to etter from when he coached at Carthage.  Im fully behind the program and its coach, however I feel that this was a convenient hire, and possibly not the best one.


Best of luck falcons

I don't know how you could possibly say that.  In the 5 seasons that Etter was the Defensive Coordinator at Carthage he completely changed the mindset of that unit and the team.  He brought in great recruits from the Chicago area and help Carthage win its first conference title in 31 years.  You might think it is "convenient" but I will tell you this Etter will win more conference titles than your beloved Coach Gabe did.  And he will bring your program a little more respect on the national level than what you have at the current moment.  Only time will tell. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: cudub on April 17, 2008, 04:53:30 AM
Redmen
I think my comment came across the wrong way.  I have no problem with the hire of Etter, just with the process.  I dont know much about him, but people I have talked to all seem to say hes a pretty damn good coach, and im anxious to see what he can do with CUW.  Although I will say, if hes going to install the 3-5 I may be a little concerned, I dont know if the falcons currently have the men to make that defense.  And also, the "beloved coach Gabe" comment....damn right hes beloved, he did amazing things with the program, for a long time, and was one hell of a coach.  And he also put effort into trying to get respect nationally, its just very difficult when your in the IBFC (or nathcon).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RedmenBigD on April 17, 2008, 11:39:07 AM
I agree its tough to get respect when you are in the IBFC.  And it will be tough in the new league as well.  As for the 3-5, Etter does not run that defense.  So whomever you are getting that information from is wrong.  That defense is only used when playing against a team that runs the wing t because the scheme of his current defense it is hard to make sure everyone is on the same page assignment wise.  It is something that is only used when scrimmaging CUW and at certain times when playing Augustana.  Etter's defense it self is a verison of the 4-2-5 with the Mike and Will backers in the box and the Sam linebacker walked up on the TE.  The Sam backer is the key to this defense.  It is a defense set up around speed and athleticism, with numerous blitzes and man coverage forcing you to beat them left handed.  As for the "beloved Coach Gabe" there was no disrespect intended by it.  All I am saying is give the guy and chance and there isn't a doubt in my mind that he will win you over with how well he gets his players to play for him.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on April 19, 2008, 12:26:11 PM
Anyone hear about how recruiting or spring ball is going for the NAC schools. I was told that the mighty cougars of CUC are recruiting Florida very hard  and have several commitment from there. I also hear that the Benedictine coaches are vry high on the quality and quanity of their recruits. Any reports out of Rockford or WLC?

I hope we can get some of the regulars to start giving their opinions on the NAC site. There has been very little noise.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 20, 2008, 01:09:51 AM
Heard WLC's defensive coordinator from '07 left.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on April 21, 2008, 04:12:02 PM
WLCALUM83

Where did the DC go? The MIAA coaches thought that the WLC staff was a good group. Are they promoting from within, IMO always a good thing or are they going outside?

What's the latest from WLC? We have not heard much from some of their supporters. Any opinion on what they think of the new conference, the NAC? It looks like  less travel for them than the MIAA. I see they have played CUW and AU in the past so they have some familiarity with some of the teams. Just curious on your thoughts.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 21, 2008, 04:44:46 PM
WLC's DC was named head coach of Grafton (WI) high school:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=740386

Haven't heard how the DC position will be filled yet.

Add Rockford and Maranatha Baptist to the teams WLC figures to be able to compete with in NAthCon. CUW's always had WLC's number. Lakeland beat the Warriors the only time the two gridiron squads met. Haven't faced CUC or Benedictine yet.


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on May 09, 2008, 09:35:16 AM
It's been real quiet on here for some time. I am sure that is not the case at the NAC schools preparing for the first NAC season.

What are you hearing about your team? Recruits, coaching changes, non-conference schedules.

I drove by AU and noticed that work is being done on the field. Are they getting new turf and stadium? One of their players mentioned that they lost a couple of coaches. I believe he dais the DC is leaving. Sounds like they had a big recruiting class with some good athletes.

Who will challenge CUW this year? To be the Champ you have to beat the Champ. Can anyone do that this year? Benedictine was close last year as was Lakeland. Who will win the first NAC Championship.

I hope this will generate some responses. Good Luck to all.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 09, 2008, 05:18:35 PM
WLC has just found a new defensive co-ordinator:

http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_05/20080506b.html

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on May 10, 2008, 02:02:00 PM
WLCAlUM83:

Just stopping by to say hello to you.  Wishing your alma mater's team all the best as they open a "new era" in their football history in their new league.  We'll miss you on our MIAA board, but I'm sure we'll catch up with you from time to time on this one.  Also, interesting about the your coaching changes - good that WLC was able to hire someone now instead of having to wait until the "last minute" in July as so often unfortunately happens at small colleges.  Anyway, talk to you later.

formerd3db
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on May 14, 2008, 11:10:39 AM
In the month of May the VFW distributes Buddy Poppies.  Please take time to give a dollar and take a poppy.  The proceeds of this go to aid the  Disabled Vets  (http://www.vfw.org/index.cfm?fa=cmty.levelc&cid=127&tok=1)

Mike Dougherty
Commander VFW Memorial Post 3776
Secaucus NJ


In Flander's Field
by John McCrae
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow,
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead.
Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved and now we lie,
In Flanders Fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw,
The torch, be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us, who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow,
In Flanders Fields.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on May 18, 2008, 08:42:34 AM
CU will be playing Valpo this year down Indiana way -- 
CU will also be hosting the St L Rams for training Camp.  CU the new home of the NFL Camp.  I am looking forward to seeing what the NFL does for the place.  I know at Chiefs camp in River Falls they leave all the cleats behind used in camp - I coached at a camp their a few times - huge tubs filled with great cleats -- only problem most were HUGE -

I am looking forward to the NAC inagural season -- go falcons!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Warrior4life on May 18, 2008, 04:06:27 PM
Well isn't this exciting, WLC hopes to turn around the football program by hiring a GA. No offense to the new guy, but I guess we can count on yet another losing season for the Warriors this year.  Even in the NAC, which I believe is the about the worst Division 3 football conference. Take out Lakeland and Concordia WI and what is left? A bunch of teams that probably couldn't beat Hartland Arrowhead H.S.
Not to say it isn't fun to watch the Warriors get blown out everyweek but maybe they should just shut it down and save some money and dignity.
Anyway, Good luck WLC, I'll be there with a paper bag over my head New Orleans style. At least that way I have something to puke into at halftime.



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 19, 2008, 09:16:31 AM
   looking forward to the up coming football season and I`m sure the
   comments posted will be lively.  Some insightful. Some funny and some
   off the wall.  What ever the case, they make the forum entertaining.
   Hope all have a good summer.   :)
     
   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 19, 2008, 09:19:13 AM
Warrior4life, instead of using that paper bag, listen to the "Band of Warriors"at halftime. (they can vicariously 'jam off'' your frustration for you).  ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on May 19, 2008, 09:55:49 AM
Warrior for Life -

But WLC has a GREAT field -- back in the 80s I was going to attend WLC but decided against it because they did not sponsor FB -- I wonder how many you have gotten into school because of your FB team?   

Is Miller still the HFC?  I thought you guys started great back when FB was introduced - sorry for the down time -- 

any predictins for the conference?  I have to check to see who is in it first

CU ALUM
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 19, 2008, 12:37:07 PM
Yes, Miller still is the head coach. 2008 will be the 5th season the Warriors will be using that field.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Warrior4life on May 19, 2008, 01:59:20 PM
How does Miller manage to be the head coach as well as dean of student affairs? That sounds like 2 full time jobs. Probably why they can't recruit, even with that great field. Plus from what I hear, the football team still gets some resentment from the older faculty.

Predictions:
Lakeland
CU WI
Rockford
Benedictine
Aurora
CU IL
WLC
Maranatha
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on May 19, 2008, 04:28:34 PM
I agree with your top 3 - I have no idea what CU will do this year -- I suspect the O will be the same unfortunate scheme -- I truly wish those kids got an offense to run -- I feel for them every time I see a game the sidelines are filled with palyer frustration -- 

I assume Lakeland will have the consistency to win the conference whoever wins I just hope we make a dent in the playoffs.  Speaking of which since this is a new conference are we AQ this year or not?

predictions
Lakeland
CU WI
Rockford
Aurora
Benedictine
WLC
CU IL
Maranatha
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 19, 2008, 04:45:26 PM
No, AQ doesn't kick in till 2010 season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on May 19, 2008, 06:58:24 PM
gives us a couple seasons to get better then

;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on May 19, 2008, 07:16:32 PM
I understand that at the last NAC FB it was discussed that there is an outside chance for a AQ this year. Apparently there is loop hole and the NAC commisioner is working with the NCAA.

CU Alum and Warrior4life ;

Nice predictions. don't overlook AU and BU. They return most of their Defenses. AU was very young on D and return the leagues rush leader. It also boils down to be the champ you have to beat the champ and CU will be loaded this year. If they change to the blitzing scheme he used at Carthage, they will be very tough to beat because they have some very good talent returning especially at LB and DE. I think 4-5 teams could be at the top challenging. I will wait to early August for my predictions. Good Luck to all NAC teams.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 19, 2008, 07:27:07 PM
The "Dixie" IAC (USA South AC) was given a Pool A bid in the first year it sponsored football.  Since the NATHC has been in existence for two years, I am in favor of giving it the Pool A bid. 

That and $3.00 might be you a vente double latte decaf!   :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on May 20, 2008, 12:16:42 AM
Or we could get an at large bid, but we would need a team to go undefeated and beat some quality non-conference teams.

Anyhow, don't overlook CUC this year.  They have been getting better each year since Pries took over the squad.  Expect them to keep rising year after year, especially with the strong Florida recruiting that he brings to the table.

Not saying they will be top 3 this year, but they will definitely be higher than 2nd to last.  Just need a few more positions filled and they will be dangerous.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 20, 2008, 01:22:12 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on May 20, 2008, 12:16:42 AM
Or we could get an at large bid, but we would need a team to go undefeated and beat some quality non-conference teams.

There may be as many as 35 schools eligible* for Pool B this year, up from 30 last year.  I think that might give 4 Pool B bids.

(*Awaiting full membership awarded to Crown, MN-Morris, and Northwestern and the new program at CSS.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on May 20, 2008, 10:44:32 AM
Baseman201

You bring up some good points for CUC. They have one of the better reyurning QB's in the league along with the QB's at CUW and Rockfor. I think it will be a dog fight between many of the teams. It was good to see CUC schedule Olivet, 2007 playoff team. This will help their program. The better non-conference schedule, the better prepared you are for the league. By playing the better teams especially the playoff teams it gives your team a look at teams that play at a different speed than most of the teams in the league, IMO. I beleive this really help Benedictine and Lakeland last year in the league. Good Luck to your team in 2008. I will not pick them that low. IMO, they will be in the middle of the pack.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on May 20, 2008, 01:02:53 PM
If I recall correctly Pries was playing for --  then CU-RF when I palyed at CUW -- the teams had some good battles back then  -  I am looking at my confoerence champ plaque as we speak and CUW won 36 -23 back in 1989 

we may have lost to them the year before -- it was no foregone conclusion back then that is for sure -- as I recall Lonnie was a heck of a good defensive player

D end if memory serves correctly -- I am still pissed about the CUW appraoch to the coaching hire that I may have to shift alligences????  Nah.

I recall we played at RF must have been 88  Gabe was the DC then and were must have been behind cause he was irate -- tossed a one of those big gatorade water coolers across the lockerroom -- he had a temper back then

ahhhh those were the good ole' days

:D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 20, 2008, 06:21:05 PM
WLC's schedule is now up:

http://www.wlc.edu/athletics/football/index.aspx?id=4179
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Superfoot Wallace on May 20, 2008, 07:12:49 PM
10/25 and 9/20 are interesting dates on that schedule 83.

Well, 10/25 potentially.  How much is left of the CUW team that split with the CCIW Champ in '06?  No disgrace in not picking up a playoff win against a Bethel team that was my pick for fourth best in the country behind Wesley and MUC.

The 9/20 meeting is the inaugural meeting with an inaugural team.  Nuff said, save the fact Florida State was once a women's college and their coach is now threatening my favorite fan of antipasto in Happy Valley. 

signed,
Burt Reynolds and "Him"
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on May 27, 2008, 11:11:41 AM
It seems that I have overstepped my bounds and wish to extend a public apology to some of the staff at CU --

over the past several years I have been critical of particular offensive schemes and some professional procedures -- (the information I was given was from several close to the situation with whom I have had personal relationships for many years - so also they are close to the situation)

the simple intent was and is to desire the best for the team that I played for long ago --

and so to those whom I may have offended I apologize here on the same board on which I was unfairly critical

my only desire is for CU football reach the next level - a playoff win and national recognition

go falcons
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 05, 2008, 02:57:08 PM
Strong rumor has the NAC Commissioner Steve Larson has informed the conference Presidents and AD's that the Nac will be an AQ for this season, 2008. No 2 year probation. Has anyone else heard anything?

It looks like AU is doing an upgrade to their football field. Anyone know whats going on. What going on with their recuiting recruiting? Any feedback, a former player said they have over 45 Frosh coming in with a couple of key transfer. I heard CUW has a big Frosh class coming in 50+ and several from Florida. CUC I jear also has a big class coming in 50+ and many from Florida. I ran into some of their coaches in a Florida airport and they were returning from a week of recruiting fairs.

Does anyone have an update on Rockford, Lakeland or Benedictine recruiting? CUW, AU and BU are going to be tough to beat. Many players returning (especially their QB's). CUC should be better as they also return their QB who is really good. Rockford lost several but they also return a vcery good QB. Should be a really good and tight race.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 05, 2008, 04:18:54 PM
Had that AQ rule been bent for WBB, WLC's women's basketball team would have qualified for the D3 tourney last spring--in NAthCon's 2nd year of existence.

Why bend the rule for football alone?  (just speculating again, folks).

(Unless the NAthCon has shown strong enough in other sports, or there's some other factor--)
:-X : :-X :-\
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 05, 2008, 04:44:08 PM
WLCALUM83;

Thats a valid point. I think you should address the NAC WBB commissioner on that. Football got the AQ apparently because of a loop hole that the NAC football commissioner found and petitioned the NCAA and it was granted.

Personally it is good for the conference Football teams.


Pat, what have you heard? Also have you heard about any repositioning of the NAC and SLIAC from the North(NAC) to the West or South(SLIAC)? IMO they will stay in the North.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 05, 2008, 04:55:04 PM
I haven't heard anything but this is usually the time of year such things come out.

Why football? Remember, now the conference actually exists and has existed for two years whereas the conference didn't exist before its first year of basketball.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 06, 2008, 06:08:44 AM
How much has that loophole been used previously? (The schools need not be named.)

(I'm not bringing this up to try to cry foul, --even without the AQ, NAthCon has had men's soccer and MBB and WBB teams qualify for D3 tournament berths anywyay. I was surprised when I heard the loophole even existed--that's why I'm asking.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 06, 2008, 11:46:04 PM
I don't think it's even a loophole.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on June 07, 2008, 01:34:42 PM
The rule just says that the conference has to have been in existence for 2 years. It never mentions that the conference has to have had the sport for 2 years.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 07, 2008, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on June 07, 2008, 01:34:42 PM
The rule just says that the conference has to have been in existence for 2 years. It never mentions that the conference has to have had the sport for 2 years.
Precisely!

That is how the Dixie IAC (now the USA South) got its AQ (http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2001-10-10/A+midseason+look+at+the+races) in the first season that it sponsored football.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 07, 2008, 03:22:06 PM
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on June 07, 2008, 01:34:42 PM
The rule just says that the conference has to have been in existence for 2 years. It never mentions that the conference has to have had the sport for 2 years.

Ah ha! That explains that!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fishguy on June 12, 2008, 10:56:17 AM
I spoke to someone on the email list - the NAC commissioner did confirm that the NAC will have an AQ beginning this fall. So the NAC champ will be automatically in the playoffs beginning this fall.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 12, 2008, 12:53:38 PM
fishguy;

Any word from your sources about Lakeland's recruiting class? What is their team going to be like next year? I think they return a few defensive starters. Some AU folks think they will be OK, appanently they have alot of speed.

It's only 2 months until the fall camps begin. Any thoughts from other NAC fans?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Warrior4life on June 12, 2008, 01:19:12 PM
I suppose it is nice to get an automatic bid. However, being an 8th seed and having to play Mt or Whitewater doesn't seem like much of a reward. Personally, I would like to see D3 use a ranking system like D2  instead of an giving automatic bids. That way good teams from really good conferences would still have a chance. I just hate to see the little sisters of the poor get beat by 50 in the first round.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on June 12, 2008, 02:52:59 PM
But that would take the equal access to the championship for every school. How do you know for sure that the NAthhCon champion won't be able to beat Mt. Union or Whitewater unless they meet on the field. By going to the ranking system it ensures more competitive first round games but you run the risk of leaving out a team from a weak conference who could actually win the national chhampionship. I'd rather have the blowouts knowing that every team had an equal chance of making it to the playoffs.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on June 12, 2008, 03:01:22 PM
Plus, every once in a while, 'David' DOES slay 'Goliath'!

2007, round one: #8 NC Wesleyan 35, #1 W & J 34.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 12, 2008, 03:15:18 PM
Quote from: Warrior4life on June 12, 2008, 01:19:12 PM
I suppose it is nice to get an automatic bid. However, being an 8th seed and having to play Mt or Whitewater doesn't seem like much of a reward. Personally, I would like to see D3 use a ranking system like D2  instead of an giving automatic bids. That way good teams from really good conferences would still have a chance. I just hate to see the little sisters of the poor get beat by 50 in the first round.
Welcome Warrior!

D-III has been there and done that!

In 1998, the last year of the old system, there were five undefeated teams in the South and a 6th, Hardin-Simmons, had one loss to D-II Midwestern State TX.  Two worthy teams stayed home including HSU.

The access is the key.  Win your conference.  You get in.  If you are one of the best four teams in that part of the country, then you will get to have a home game, unless you are in Texas in which case the NCAA will pair those two teams in the first round. Please read the history of the Texas sub-bracket (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5306.29).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 12, 2008, 04:58:09 PM
Warrior4life;

IMO the play off bid is the reward for winning the conference. D3 does not have the plethera of bowls that exist in D1. Conference champions may come from so-called weak conferences but they were not weak in their own conference. The D3 reward is a big deal for the D3 player no matter where they are from, IMO. It is a chance to experience a top shelf experience, something like a bowl game. IMO a conference champ wants to play the best from a competitive point. Remember if you are going anywhere you will have to face the top teams, so a first round meeting is OK IMO. I would not favor another plan than the one that exist today. I do realize that it should be tweaked to make sure some independent teams or some strong conference runner ups are included.

A while back Aurora was a 7 seed and had to play a 2 seed Wooster and it was a Great game. Aurora took the challenge as to be a Champ you have to play the best. The point is not all the so-called sisters of the poor get waxed in the first round.

I think if you look at CUW and Lakeland's schedule the last couple of years they are playing VERY difficult non-conference games to prep for the playoffs. IMO, they want a shot at the best teams.

On another note about the AQ. Many teams use this as a recruiting tool especially when they are recruiting a kid who is looking at a school that does not have a AQ. It happens more often that you would beleive,IMO.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Warrior4life on June 13, 2008, 01:08:16 AM
Well I guess if thats what it takes to stir the pot around here I will continue to express my opinion.  Believe me when I tell you, I don't need a history lesson when it comes to D3 football. I know there have been great games in the early rounds. I know that everyone who plays wants to compete against the best.
Since you mention it, lets look at Lakeland. Probably the best team in the NAC. However, in the past 3 years they have lost to Whitewater 3 times and have been outscored 189-33. I understand that is against one of the best teams in the country. Then again they have not been able to beat Carthage in that 3 year span either. So if this is the best team in the NAC ,  what does that say about the rest of the league.
So I don't believe that the NAC should recieve a AQ. A team like Stevens Point, who would destroy any team from the NAC, might not get in get in because they play in an elite conference. How is it fair to those kids? Should they go play for weaker teams because they might have a better shot at the playoffs?
Anyway thats my opinion and you can like or not like it.

MAN THIS IS FUN, you guys are great.



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on June 13, 2008, 01:24:43 AM
W4life,

I understand where you're coming from (and have some empathy for the position, having seen CCIW bball teams passed over that would have beaten some tourney teams by 40 points), but I also love the Cinderellas.  No way in the world would NC Wesleyan have gotten the opportunity for that 'upset' if not for the AQ.  Like it or not, the d3 philosophy is inclusion - if a team wins its conference, it should have a chance at glory.  While it is usually true, just because a team comes from a bad conference does not always mean it is a bad team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 13, 2008, 10:39:11 AM
Warrior4life;

Your right  Stevens Point could beat any team in the NAC, IMO most every WIAC team could beat all the NAC teams. The same could be said for the OAC and the CCIW. They are all stronger football conferences. The Pointers can get in if they get a pool B or C bid. John Carroll from the OAC and Capital from the OAC has done this is past years.

You mentioned that Lakeland has not beat Carthage in the last 3 years. Its not like Cartage is a bottom feeder in the CCIW, they are very good team. This is very true and they have not won a non conference game since they upgraded their non conference schedule, several years ago. However they have had very good conference records.   

There will never be a 100% fair way to qualify for the playoffs. This is what exist and it works, maybe tweaked a bit but it allows for every team to have a chance. Win your conference AQ, Pool A or PoolB, and your in to start the drive to Salem. 

Good discussions and everyone has good points. How is your team shaping up for this year? How do you see the NAC versus the MIAA?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 13, 2008, 07:00:20 PM
NAthCon's got the following early opportunities to make '08 statements vs MIAA teams:

Concordia-Chicago takes on MIAA '07 Co-Champ Olivet :

Rockford tangles with Alma:

Rockford battles Kzoo:  (Kzoo has a new coach, I hear).

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 13, 2008, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: Warrior4life on June 13, 2008, 01:08:16 AM
Well I guess if thats what it takes to stir the pot around here I will continue to express my opinion.  Believe me when I tell you, I don't need a history lesson when it comes to D3 football. I know there have been great games in the early rounds. I know that everyone who plays wants to compete against the best.
Since you mention it, lets look at Lakeland. Probably the best team in the NAC. However, in the past 3 years they have lost to Whitewater 3 times and have been outscored 189-33. I understand that is against one of the best teams in the country. Then again they have not been able to beat Carthage in that 3 year span either. So if this is the best team in the NAC ,  what does that say about the rest of the league.
So I don't believe that the NAC should recieve a AQ. A team like Stevens Point, who would destroy any team from the NAC, might not get in get in because they play in an elite conference. How is it fair to those kids? Should they go play for weaker teams because they might have a better shot at the playoffs?
Anyway thats my opinion and you can like or not like it.

MAN THIS IS FUN, you guys are great.
Good points warrior!

Now, let me come back to you!

What are you guys in the WIAC doing in D-III?  If the WIAC were located in Texas and Oklahoma, they would be the Lone Star Conference (http://www.lonestarconference.org/landing/index)!  Look at the size of the schools!  State schools with lower tuitions and different missions and visions than the ASC or the SCAC or the NAC or the MWC or CCIW.  All but one school is a state school.

In the south, the Gulf South Conference (http://www.gulfsouthconference.org/) where 12 of the 15 schools are state.

In Pennsylvania, the PSAC (http://www.psacsports.org/index.html).  It goes on and on.   :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 13, 2008, 11:52:00 PM
And if they were in New York or New Jersey they would be Division III. So?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 14, 2008, 11:36:48 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 13, 2008, 11:52:00 PM
And if they were in New York or New Jersey they would be Division III. So?
The members in those conferences are predominantly state schools who have gone to D-II and even D-I (FCS).  I think that the PSAC schools have always been NCAA, but some of the schools in those other conferences were peer institutions of WIAC (WSUC) members in the NAIA back in the '70's and '80's.   I understand that the WIAC has chosen D-III as their model, but historically they are to be unique among the major conferences from that era in their determination of the D-III model.  I would hate to compete against the LSC schools for student-athletes in D-III.   :)

NAIA Men's Basketball Playoffs Archive (http://naia.cstv.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/naia/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/MBBHistory)

NAIA Football Championship Archives (http://naia.cstv.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/naia/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/ChampionshipRecords)

NAIA Baseball Archives (http://naia.cstv.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/naia/sports/m-basebl/auto_pdf/ChampionshipRecords2008)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on June 17, 2008, 01:01:30 AM
QuoteSo I don't believe that the NAC should recieve a AQ.

So if this is your thinking, then you are saying that the smaller schools in D-I college basketball shouldn't be in the tournament. 

Ohio State didn't make the NCAA tournament, but yet Mount St. Marys made it.  Is that fair to Ohio State because they could probably plow through any of the 16 seeded teams?

Just making comparisons to what you said.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 17, 2008, 07:59:50 PM
baseman201

Great point. I for one am glad the NAC has the AQ. How is your team going to be this year? I beleive you are a CUC supporter. I am sorry if thats the wrong school. Just was interested in what up in Chicago.

Any AU folks seen the progress of their new field and stadium?  On their web site it looks really good and long overdue. How is their recruiting and their 2008 season look at this time?

2 months and everyone will be starting practice. Should be quite a year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on June 19, 2008, 10:00:12 PM
Don't know many details on how recruiting is going, but I know Pries is going strong to Florida once again. 

They had about 30 or so players from Florida last year, so hopefully they can get a few more and start building up a great team.  One of the WRs from Florida last year (Maurice Tisdale) was the 2nd or 3rd best in the league if I am not mistaken, next to White from Lakeland of course.

Other than that, I have no idea what's going on in Cougar land, haven't been back since the basketball season, but hoping to make some games this year.  I just hope they can build on their 3-7 season, and maybe get to .500 for the first time in who knows how long, the mid 80s I think was the last winning season???
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 22, 2008, 08:24:55 AM
Here's an update on Ryan Maiuri (played for Lakeland):

http://www.ragefootball.com/newsPage.php?RAGE_WIN_PLAYOFF_OPENER-101/
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lakelandfootball on June 25, 2008, 09:15:49 PM
The season is about two months away and i was just wondering what the predictions are this year and who feels will be on the top? player of the year? best offense defense? coach?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on June 28, 2008, 09:22:19 AM
CUW has a tough Non Conf sked for this year.
@Bethel
@ Valparaiso
and Wheaton at home.

Despite the seemingly lopsided score from last years playoffs - I still believe that CU can beat Bethel -- Valpo is who knows, they are I AA as far as I recall but not up there with Delaware and the like --  CU has nothing to lose playing up and so I bet they use that to their advantage.

Wheaton -- tough.

good sked to get better -- I am glad the conf season starts with Maranatha.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2008, 06:24:31 PM
Valpo, Wheaton, CUW and Bethel all offer the same number of football scholarships.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on June 29, 2008, 08:23:34 AM
Thanks for helping me keep it all in perspective --   :-X
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 29, 2008, 11:49:26 AM
CU Alum;

Valpo is 1AA non-scholarship but they recruit some good athletes. AU has played them in the past and did not fare well against them. The Falcons should hold their own with them. Nice to see that CUW and Lakeland have stepped up with their non-conference schedule this. Not they each play week sisters last year but this year they both have their hands full. Early prediction from me has CUW and Lakeland knocking off one of their non-conference foes. Good luck to CUW in 2009.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on June 30, 2008, 11:49:16 AM
thanks for the reply --  I am looking forward to the season --

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on July 02, 2008, 10:05:11 AM
An update on an Aurora football player here:

http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_07/20080701a.html
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 07, 2008, 07:08:45 PM
I hope evryone on our board signs up for the 2008 Kickoff. I  just signed up and I hope we can all afford $9.95 to help support D3 Football. This board is the only means for this level to discuss our teams, Pick weeky winners and follow all the conferences and all D3 Football issues. There is no coverage on ESPN, USA Today or any other National outlet. There are occasional blurbs but not the up to date info as the D3Football site.  Let's start our new conference off with us fans and support the 2008 Kickoff with 100% participation from all the contributors.

The season is very close as most teams report around August 14. I hope everyone one of you voice your thoughts on your team. Let's catch the fever.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lakelandfootball on July 16, 2008, 07:35:05 PM
So i was just wondering what it takes to get people to start posting and replying on this board
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 16, 2008, 09:48:33 PM
lakeland football;

Nice to see that you are catching the fever. What do you hear about the fish? They should be there at the finish along with CUW,AU and Benedictine. Rockford may also be a big surprise. They have a very good QB coming back. CUC, and CUW also have very good QB's returning. I hope you can give us some thoughts on the fish.

I hope more will catch the fever.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on July 16, 2008, 11:49:30 PM
Here's an update on some coaching changes at Aurora:

http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_07/20080715a.html
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Just Bill on July 18, 2008, 11:03:42 AM
Quote from: lakelandfootball on July 16, 2008, 07:35:05 PM
So i was just wondering what it takes to get people to start posting and replying on this board
Irresponsible smack talk usually does it.  ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lakelandfootball on July 18, 2008, 11:51:10 AM
well the muskies obviously lost some great players this year one being Mac White but  i feel that they will be able to contend again this year.  Their defense was young last year and they will again be anchored down by John Wagner in the middle.  Their defense will improve considerably from last year finishing i believe 5 in the conference in defense.  I don't know if that stat is correct but it is somewhere around there.  The question mark this year will be the offense as it is every year.  they have a core group of very young players.  if these players step up then the offense i believe will flourish.  The oline is anchored by a junior and a sophomore both who are returning starters from last years Co conference team.  The runing backs are also very young.  Antonio Humphrey should really open up eyes this year in the conference.  If he stays healthy he is top 3 running back in the conference.  Quarterback not exactly set on one yet but from the looks of things Coach Doherty is going to go with Billy Hughes the kicker but things can obviouslly change.  Billy has a great throw so we will see what happens there.  The recieving core is anchored by Matt "sunshine' Pawlyk and Isiah Calhoun.  so as the season moves closer this is the muskies as of now!  what are  other teams porojected starters? any new faces that are going to be stars in the NAC?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Warrior4life on July 23, 2008, 10:23:21 AM
Anyone planning on going over to Concordia to watch the Rams practice? I think they report Thursday, anyone know for sure?  It should be good for the falcons to have those guys around. I went to Point after the Jags were there and they left a ton of stuff behind, clothes, shoes, equipment.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on July 24, 2008, 03:34:16 PM
Oh wow it's been a while but Fatal Impact is back, I'm curious to see how these recent coaching changes will affect AU, it shouldn't in my opinion, I think this season will be a good one and I can't wait to see how it turns out
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on July 24, 2008, 07:07:25 PM
That's awesome for CUW.  Not only is it good for them, but it's good for the Concordia name to get out to the nation.

There are 10 Concordias affiliated with eachother out there, so this is great....of course the best for CUW though.

Anyhow, haven't heard much from anyone with exception to Lakeland.

Let's hear it, camp is coming up in less than a month!!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Warrior4life on July 25, 2008, 02:55:36 PM
Never sure about WLC. They have a 35 man roster and I think they expect about 30 incoming freshman. So when its all said and done they should have about 45 players going into the first game. They have some good talent but zero depth.
They have good back in Larry Hairl who will probably be the center of the offense.  On defense they have several good young players including Makepeace and Rosenburg. I don't have any idea what Murphy is going to run as the new DC but Miller always seems to prefer a 3-4
With questions at QB, OL, WR,  a total lack of depth, and a new DC right out of his GA year they will struggle quite a bit this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on July 30, 2008, 07:59:34 PM
"The scoop" on NAthCon Football Media Day can be found here:

http://wlcsports.athleticsite.com/article.asp?articleID=371
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 02, 2008, 01:19:18 PM
I drove past the new AU stadium and field and it looks very nice. A big improvement from the past. The stands are small but the whole thing looks good. This new complex should help their recruiting in the future. I think they will be very good this year. Could be their year to capture the title. They return most of their defense and have one of the top DLineman in Markus Goedkin (spelling) back. Their LB's are very good and have a solid secondary. They return the leagues to rusher from last year and their QB has a year of experience under his belt. In addition they play CUW, Benedictine and Lakeland at AU. IMO they are set to make a big run.

I also understand from a couple of AU folks that they are bringing in a big freshman class (50+) with transfers. Is this their breakout year?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 06, 2008, 06:10:59 PM
NAthCon Preseason Football Coaches' Poll is here:

http://wlcsports.athleticsite.com/article.asp?articleID=374

On first reaction, the only difference I'd have with the poll (with apologies to Warrior4Life and all other pro-WLC posters), I would have put WLC 7th, below Concordia-Chicago.

If I end up eating crow, at least I'll be eating it with a smile.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ftballfan09 on August 06, 2008, 07:22:51 PM
hello all, long time reader first time poster. anyway good luck to all teams this season with the new conference. I would like to agree with you but I am not sure if CU Chicago has enough guys returning to make a difference. Should be fun to watch!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 07, 2008, 12:40:01 PM
Here's news on a prep player headed Concordia-WI's direction:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=780723

   ("Cudahy choices" section.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 07, 2008, 12:44:39 PM
Quote from: ftballfan09 on August 06, 2008, 07:22:51 PM
hello all, long time reader first time poster. anyway good luck to all teams this season with the new conference. I would like to agree with you but I am not sure if CU Chicago has enough guys returning to make a difference. Should be fun to watch!

Welcome to the board!

WLC used to be in the MIAA, so I'm looking forward to the Cougars' matchup with former MIAA foe Olivet later this season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 18, 2008, 10:54:02 PM
Didn't camp start today?

So, let's here some details,

# of players reporting, players to watch for, etc...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 19, 2008, 09:02:38 PM
I hear that WLU has a transfer QB from an NAIA school and is real good. This good really help them since they lost a 3 year starter at that position. Can any of the WLU folks verify that.

What is everyone's team doing from a preseason scrimmage?  I know CUW scrimmages Carthage and Lakeland scrimmages Elmhurst.

I hope some of the old posters return as the season nears. Not many folks talking or giving their two cents worth. We have all seen the media picks for the season but what does everyone think?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Game Time on August 20, 2008, 01:38:14 PM
CUW is in Day 3 of Camp. Guess they got a late start due to the Rams using the facility. Haven't heard anything yet.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 20, 2008, 08:15:23 PM
Quote from: old 40 on August 19, 2008, 09:02:38 PM
I hear that WLU has a transfer QB from an NAIA school and is real good. This good really help them since they lost a 3 year starter at that position. Can any of the WLU folks verify that.

What is everyone's team doing from a preseason scrimmage?  I know CUW scrimmages Carthage and Lakeland scrimmages Elmhurst.

I hope some of the old posters return as the season nears. Not many folks talking or giving their two cents worth. We have all seen the media picks for the season but what does everyone think?

WLC's cupboard is not totally bare at QB. Last year's Warrior 2nd string QB returns, and, yes, WLC did gain another transfer QB from an NAIA school.

Here's the season preview from WLC's site:

http://wlcsports.athleticsite.com/article.asp?articleID=377.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 20, 2008, 11:11:10 PM
From what I could see on CUCs website, there are about 80 guys on the roster, which is wonderful considering what it has been in the past.  Also, I didn't see their #1 WR on the roster either, did he leave and head back to Florida?

Speaking of that, there is a big presence of Florida players on the roster again this year, glad to see Copeland has stuck around, I see him being a 900-1,000 yard rusher this year for them.   Also looks like there is some size at the O-Line position, hopefully give Marotta (or if someone can beat him out) some time to throw the ball and open some holes for Copeland.  Don't know much more, hopefully someone can let us know what's going on in Cougarland.

Hopefully they can build on a successful 3-7 2007 season, and win another game or two....heck even more would be great.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 23, 2008, 12:12:12 PM
Does anyone post anymore?

It's about a week away from the beginning of the season and there have only been like 3 posts.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 23, 2008, 03:37:21 PM
I just read on the CCIW board that Lakeland scrimmaged Elmhurst yesterday. Did anyone see that scrimmage? I thought it was going to be labor day weekend. The poster on the CCIW board said Elmhurst moved the ball in the air and on the ground but also said Lakeland had some good runs and passed the ball deep.  I thought the fish lost their QB from last year, they must have replaced him. I hope to make the CUW/Carthage scrimmage and it should be a good ome, with the HC of CUW a past Assisant at Carthage. Does anyone know if AU is scrimmaging North Park or Loras?

Baseman, I think many of the posters from last year were from teams that went to the SLIAC. Good Luck to your Cougars.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 25, 2008, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 23, 2008, 12:12:12 PM
Does anyone post anymore?

It's about a week away from the beginning of the season and there have only been like 3 posts.



Maybe everyone's clamming up because no one wants to jinx the team they're pulling for.  :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 26, 2008, 06:02:26 PM
Here's some motivation:

No NAthCon team preview shows up until halfway down Kickoff 2008's list. (No surprise there.)

Whaddya say we all show 'em something, eh? (Grrrrr!)  :) ;) :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 26, 2008, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on August 26, 2008, 06:02:26 PMHere's some motivation:

No NAthCon team preview shows up until halfway down Kickoff 2008's list. (No surprise there.)

Whaddya say we all show 'em something, eh? (Grrrrr!)  :) ;) :D

You mean the 1-239 ranking?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2008, 08:51:16 PM
Well, alphabetically, "Northern Athletics Conference" is more than halfway down, too. :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 26, 2008, 10:22:57 PM
I originally meant the 1-239 ranking, but either way doesn't change the potential motivation. ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: reality check on August 26, 2008, 11:57:03 PM
Wishing Rockford College the best of luck (and from the looks of it on Kickoff, they'll need it).  One of my former players is suiting up for Rockford this fall.  Best wishes to Mike Wadell and his new teammates from an OAC'er.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 27, 2008, 10:32:33 PM
Pat and staff, another great kickoff. You guys out did yourself this year. Great info for the D3 programs. It makes it feel like the big time. If you have not  purchased then I suggest you do it and get the inside on all the D3 teams. Great Job, Pat and staff.

From the NAC perspective I would of thought Rockford would be higher. They have talent and they have a very good QB, maybe the best in the league. I would pick them 3 or 4. I would not have AU over them until AU can prove they can beat them, which they have not done in the last 2 years. However, IMO I think AU can be the surprise of the year. Great Defense with the top RB back and lots of Seniors. Maybe them or Benedictine gets the W versus CUW. I would of put Lakeland at 4,5 or 6 because of the number of offensive starters lost. I will make a prediction next week Game Week. This will be a Great Year in the NAC. The question is who will be the first Champ?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on August 29, 2008, 01:10:46 PM
As the 2008 gets going I just want to wish the NAC good luck in their first year of formal existence.  I think there are 3-4 teams that could fight for the inaugural NAC title. 
I think the Elmhurst/Benedictine game is going to be interesting.  I don't know what to make of this year's Elmhurst team, and the Eagles were picking up some steam late in the 2007 season.  Elmhurst has had the upper hand in the series of late, but I think this one is going to be much closer.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 03, 2008, 08:22:27 PM
Anyone going to post predictions this week?

Here is my guesses;

AU over Lake Forrest- 27-7 AU should gell with Tough D and running game.

Dubuque over Rockford- 31-14, Dubuque handled them last year.

CUC over Blackburn- 28-12, Blackburn will be better but not much.

Martin Luther over Mar.Baptist- 38-7, Martin Luther blew them out last year.

BU over Elmhurst- 21-20, Upset special. To many new faces at Elmhurst.

Northwestern(MN) over WLU-31-7 WLU too young for these UMAC Champs.

Central(IA) over Lakeland- 31-14, Central just reloads. The fish play with them for a half.

Bethal over CUW-31-7, Bethal loaded, The Falcons must play big on D or it may be ugly.


The NAC season starts with some teams stepping up to play really good teams and many ranked in the top 25 by D3football.com

God Luck to all the NAC teams and be safe in travels.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2008, 06:39:27 AM
WLCALUM83's picks:

Aurora
Dubuque
Concordia-Chicago
Martin Luther
Elmhurst
Northwestern, MN
Central, IA
Bethel



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 04, 2008, 11:16:27 AM
Wow, you guys make it easy on me.

my picks are:

WLCALUM83's picks
Old 40's picks.

NICE.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2008, 02:43:41 PM
baseman:

Old 40 and I went different directions on one game:

Old 40 picked Benedictine, I picked Elmhurst.  Which way are you going on that one?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 04, 2008, 03:00:17 PM
WLCALUM83;
Who is WLU starting at QB. Last years back up or the transfer from Trinity? I hear he is pretty good, maybe better than his brother.

Baseman201;
What's up with the CUC  team this year? IMO their breakout game will be the Olivet game. Whats your point spead prediction?

Good to see you and WLCALUM on the board. Maybe some more folks will catch the fever and join us. Did you guys buy the kickoof? IMO it is Great. Well worth the investment.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2008, 05:29:24 PM
Judging from the game notes and depth chart off WLC's release, it looks like last year's back-up QB will get the start, barring the unforeseen.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 04, 2008, 11:36:38 PM
WLCALUM83

Well crap, ok I pick Benedictine, gotta go with the NAC team,  ;D

We will see what happens against Blackburn before thinking about the Olivet game.  Olivet is a playoff team, if CUC manhandles Blackburn by 50 or so, then people need to pay attention.  But if Blackburn gives them a run for their money and keeps it close, could be another long year in Cougarland.

Although, they have about 80 on the roster, which is WAAAAAY more then there have been in the past.  Plus it seems they have some size on the OL for a change.

But, we shall see,
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 05, 2008, 06:29:09 AM
Here's a newspaper's reviews on the four in-Wisconsin NAthCon teams:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=791133  (Scroll down a ways.)

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on September 05, 2008, 09:27:30 AM
FYI,  the Elmhurst vs. Benedictine game can be heard online or conventional radio at this address:   http://www.wrse.com  or 88.7 FM local radio.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on September 05, 2008, 10:27:28 AM
Go Cougs!!  ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 02:03:26 PM
Benedictine/Elmhurst just getting underway:
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 02:29:55 PM
Benedictine 0, Elmhurst 0, end of 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 02:34:04 PM
Elmhurst 7, Benedictine 0, approx 13 minutes left in 2nd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 02:43:06 PM
Elmhurst 14, Benedictine 0, 9:30 left in 2nd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 02:58:42 PM
Elmhurst 21, Benedictine 0, approx 3 minutes left in 2nd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 03:09:41 PM
Elmhurst 21, Benedictine 7   Halftime.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 06, 2008, 03:26:45 PM
Halftime scores

Central (IA) 27-Lakeland 0

AU 21- Lake Forest 6

Northewesten (MN) 33- WLU 0
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 03:49:32 PM
Go, Spartans!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 03:54:50 PM
Elmhurst 28, Benedictine 7, Approx 4 minutes left in the 3rd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 06, 2008, 03:59:52 PM
Updates

Northwestern (MN) 36- WLU 0 4th Qtr.

Central (IA) 34- Lakeland 0 4th Qtr

Au 28- Lake Forest 13 3rd Qtr
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 04:06:00 PM
Elmhurst 28, Benedictine 7, end of 3rd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 04:10:01 PM
Elmhurst 28, Benedictine 14,   4th Qrtr:  13 minutes left.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 04:16:55 PM
Elmhurst 35, Benedictine 14  Approx 11 minutes left in 4th.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 06, 2008, 04:29:35 PM
Finals

AU 35- Lake Forest 13

Central (IA) 41- Lakeland 0

Northwestern (MN) 43- WLU 7
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 04:45:27 PM
Elmhurst 35, Benedictine 14:  Final 

  Positives for the Eagles:

  1)  Scored more points this game than in the last 8 previous Elmhurst matchups combined (only 9 pts the previous 8 matchups)

  2)  Could have easily had 10 more points. (Missed FG in 3rd and had the ball deep in Elmhurst territory one other time but a Ben receiver was overshot in the end zone on a 4th down throw.)

At least the NAthCon won't 0-fer on the day. :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 06, 2008, 04:54:14 PM
Thanks for the updates,

Always nice to see,

The Eagles played tough, Aurora won and Lakeland had a tough time with Central.

Nothing surprising so far about today,
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 06, 2008, 05:29:08 PM
Just got word that CUC beat Blackburn 41-15

Good to see it wasn't a close game.

And I find it interested on the NAC website that CUCs game vs. Blackburn today is not under "September 6th" games.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2008, 06:21:38 PM
Another NAthCon final:

Bethel, MN 38, Concordia-WI 10. (that's off Bethel's site).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 06, 2008, 08:30:04 PM
Updated score

Rockford 7- Univ. of Dubuque 14 1st Qtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 06, 2008, 09:06:50 PM
Updated score

Late in 2nd Qtr. Dubuque 33 and Rockford 7
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 06, 2008, 09:28:46 PM
Halftime

Rockford 7- Dubuque 33.

Congrats to AU and CUC with pening victories.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 07, 2008, 01:12:10 AM
Martin Luther 40, Maranatha 7, Final.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 09, 2008, 09:11:04 PM
Wow, this board has gotten lazy......

I remember last year after every game there was talk.

Come on now.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 10, 2008, 07:19:29 AM
If WLC's looking to "make hay", so to speak, their best opportunity is their next 2 games-- both at home--against NAIA Mayville State and D3 first year FB program St. Scholastica, respectively. The latter matchup is the Warriors' Homecoming Game, so unless WLC comes into them banged up or has to deal with a high level of other unforeseen circumstances, the opportunity is there. (From here on out, the Warriors figure to be "fresher" for their road games because they figure to have less travel time to deal with.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on September 10, 2008, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 09, 2008, 09:11:04 PM
Wow, this board has gotten lazy......

I remember last year after every game there was talk.

Come on now.

Im still in shock from the CUW Bethel game -- I feel that I should repress my true feelings about particular offensive schemes so as not to give the wrong impression that I do not support my team -- which I do, and always will

so I am waiting till I am no longer upset -- better hurry cause saturday is coming

???
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 11, 2008, 07:06:35 PM
Week 2 picks for the NAC;

CUW at Valpo- CUW wins 28-14.
AU at MacMurray- AU 52-7 in a blow out.
CUC at Eureka- CUC wins close game 21-20
Kalamazoo at Rockford- Rockford bounces back and wins 31-24
Mt. St. Joe at Lakeland- Close game for Lakeland but the yfall short 21-19
Mayville at WLu- Who is Mayville (NAIA?) WLU wins 18-7
Maranatha Baptist at Blackburn- Blackburns wins first game 28-0
Benedictine is open this week

Good Luck to all NAC teams. Play good and smart and no injuries.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2008, 09:55:38 PM
Yes, Mayville State is an NAIA school (competes in a conference in North Dakota). From what I read off of WLC's pre-game notes, Mayville State lost their opener last week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2008, 10:51:41 PM
WLCALUM83's Week 2 picks:

Kzoo/Rockford:    Rockford
Maranatha/Blackburn:  Blackburn- 1) they're at home, 2) they want to get off the schneid real bad.
Aurora/MacMurray:  Aurora
Concordia-Chicago/Eureka:  Eureka --barely.
Mt. St. Joseph/Lakeland:  Mt. St. Joseph
Mayville State/WLC:  WLC in another tight one.
Concordia-WI/Valpo:  Valpo.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on September 12, 2008, 10:18:24 AM
My 2 cents worth

Kzoo/Rockford - Rockford
CU/Valpo - Valpo  :(
Mayville/Wisconsin Lutheran - WLC
Mt St Joe/ Lakeland -- Mt St Joe
Maranatha/Blackburn-- blackburn
Aurora/Mac -- Aurora
CUC/Eureka -- CUC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 12, 2008, 11:10:36 PM
PICKS!!!!

Kzoo Vs. Rockford - Don't know much about Kalamazoo, but I guess I have to go with the NAC team right?
CUW Vs. Valpo - Valpo wins, maybe 35-10 range
Mount St. Joseph Vs. Lakeland - I think this is going to be a blowout with MSJ on top
Maranatha Vs. Blackburn - Field goal at the end wins it for Maranatha
Aurora Vs. Mac - Yes, blowout time for AU
CUC Vs. Eureka - CUC blows them out of the water baby.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 13, 2008, 04:38:08 PM
Any updates on scores.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: nittanybacker on September 13, 2008, 04:51:43 PM
Does anyone know why the Lakeland College website says the MSJ game ended in a tie 0-0?  Even thier record changed to 0-1-1.  I am just an MSJ alum looking for an answer.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 13, 2008, 06:25:39 PM
It says on d3football.com that MSJ won 20-0

Here are the scores from today:

1:00 PM  Maranatha Baptist  7  Blackburn  20  Final   
2:00 PM  Aurora  30  MacMurray  18  Final   
2:00 PM  Concordia (Ill.)  8  Eureka  28  Final   
2:00 PM  Mount St. Joseph  20  Lakeland  0  Final   
2:00 PM  Concordia (Wis.)   Valparaiso       
2:00 PM  Kalamazoo  17  Rockford  14  Final

No score for CUW, anyone know anything?  Alot of close games today, looks like MAC kept it close against AU.  And CUC got it handed to them by Eureka, it's just sad to see.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 13, 2008, 09:07:05 PM
2 other finals:

Mayville State 9, WLC 7
Valpo over CUW  34-10
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 13, 2008, 09:23:16 PM
Quote from: nittanybacker on September 13, 2008, 04:51:43 PM
Does anyone know why the Lakeland College website says the MSJ game ended in a tie 0-0?  Even thier record changed to 0-1-1.  I am just an MSJ alum looking for an answer.

Once any Lakeland College athletic contest (regardless of sport) gets underway, that site shows the "result" as a tie until a report comes in to them as to what the actual final is.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2008, 02:04:37 AM
Should've gone with Presto. :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ftballfan09 on September 14, 2008, 08:57:12 PM
wow thought this would be a turn around year in cuc but who knows now....what does next week look like? i support this conference but how could you take cuw over valpo....you had to know that was coming. anyway we are a week closer to conference play....good luck to all.....
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: cudub on September 14, 2008, 11:50:26 PM
So i havent been on the board for over a year now.  What am I missing, when did Euereka become not the worst team in the country?  Not only did they beat CUC but, it looks as if people actually predicted that too.  I am confused as to how this happened.  Insights anyone?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 18, 2008, 10:03:36 AM
Picks for week 3;

Could be a long weekend for the NAC teams.

IWU at AU- IWU wins easy after an early struggle by AU. To much CCIW. 31-14
Rockford at Alma- Alma fires up the Scott Gun and wins big, 42-7
Carthage at Lakeland- To much CCIW. The Redmen continue to air it out. Lakeland does score. 56-14.
Olivet at CUC- Olivet is looking for their first win. To much for the Cougars. 48-7
Wheaton at CUW- Wheaton is coming off a big win. Close for a while. To much CCIW. 42-7
M.Baptist at Macalaster- Minnesota will not be kind to the NAC team. 48-0
St. Scholastca at WLC- The saints play their first game ever. WLC wins 28-13.
NCC at Benedictine- NCC is loaded.38-0. To much CCIW.

This weeks games look like a match between the CCIW and the NAC. The CCIW is loaded with great athletes. Long day for the NAC. IMO, I am glad they are playing these good teams. Gives the NAC an idea of where their programs have to be to win a playoff game.

The NAC season starts in two weeks. Good luck to everyone.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on September 18, 2008, 10:21:40 AM
Old 40 -- I agree will all those picks -- rough weekend for the NAC

but I also agree that you need to play the tough teams --  IMO there seems to be a shift in D3 quality teams -- perhaps these tough times will bode well for the years to come.  Did you read the article from the LaCross paper that calls out the private schools in the upper midwest - particularly wisconsin -- calls them out to play the WIAC -- it is in the "What were reading" links

open to comments and discussions about "playing up"?

looking forward to discussion
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on September 18, 2008, 11:28:10 AM
I think more private schools from the area, especially Wisconsin should play the WIAC during the year but the challenge to the Midwest Conference is a little missed place. I wonder if this guy realizes that they only have one non-conference game and Carroll always schedules a CCIW school since they used to be in that conference so that only leaves four possible games form WI schools in the conference. The problem is the WIAC is too good for their own good. You want to play tougher competition to make yourself better but sending Beloit to play a team Stevens Point (middle of the pack WIAC team) isn't going to help anyone. Except for a St. Norbert or Monmouth or Ripon (who has played Oshkosh the past few years) most teams can't compete with the WIAC schools especially the upper level teams like Whitewater and Eau Claire. I'd say Concordia (WI) and Carthage and maybe Lakeland are the only teams in Wisconsin that are in any position to play a WIAC school after week 1. WLC and MBBC aren't going to have a chance.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on September 18, 2008, 11:38:20 AM
When I played for CU then CC (NAIA II) we as players always asked rather vociferiously to be able to play the WIAC (then WSUC)

we couldnt even get 10 games back them --

I agree many of those listed are not able - it would serve no purpose
as an alum I want to see CUW play 1 WIAC school a year

I am pleased with the Non Conf sked for CU this year and the past few
we played Central and North Central and Platteville and of course this year is very tough Bethel, Valpo and Wheaton this week.

In regard to the WIAC going all over God's green earth to play - the OAC is relatively close -- those would be some good games -- MUC, Ohio Northern

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2008, 11:46:13 AM
hickory cornhusker, I agree with your post.

CU alum, you also have a valid point. A couple of years back UW-Stevens Point had a rotating series with Hardin-Simmons (Abilene, TX), ditto for UW-Whitewater (Mary Hardin-Baylor, TX).  From a travel standpoint, for one or two non-conference games a year--it'd be worth at least a look.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2008, 11:51:38 AM
Quote from: old 40 on September 18, 2008, 10:03:36 AM
Picks for week 3;

Could be a long weekend for the NAC teams.

IWU at AU- IWU wins easy after an early struggle by AU. To much CCIW. 31-14
Rockford at Alma- Alma fires up the Scott Gun and wins big, 42-7
Carthage at Lakeland- To much CCIW. The Redmen continue to air it out. Lakeland does score. 56-14.
Olivet at CUC- Olivet is looking for their first win. To much for the Cougars. 48-7
Wheaton at CUW- Wheaton is coming off a big win. Close for a while. To much CCIW. 42-7
M.Baptist at Macalaster- Minnesota will not be kind to the NAC team. 48-0
St. Scholastca at WLC- The saints play their first game ever. WLC wins 28-13.
NCC at Benedictine- NCC is loaded.38-0. To much CCIW.

This weeks games look like a match between the CCIW and the NAC. The CCIW is loaded with great athletes. Long day for the NAC. IMO, I am glad they are playing these good teams. Gives the NAC an idea of where their programs have to be to win a playoff game.

The NAC season starts in two weeks. Good luck to everyone.

WLCALUM83's picks:

Aurora
Alma
Carthage
Olivet
Wheaton
Macalester
WLC  (I don't think the Warriors will take St. Scholastica too lightly on Homecoming. WLC needs to cut down on turnovers. If they do that, they'll be OK.)
North Central
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 18, 2008, 02:14:38 PM
The WIAC is unique in D3. They are state schools with great facilities and a very low cost compared to the private school education. These two factors are a big advantages for them.

Last year Lakeland played two WIAC schools and were not competitive. These schools hve more quality depth than Lakeland had. IMO, it is impossible for a Lakeland to compete for the number of high eschelon athletes that the 9 state schools bring in. They might get a few but not the numbers needed to compete against the WIAC. In this scenario our tax dollars work against the private schools.

IMO, I think scheduling the top schools in D3 is good. Lakeland and CUW have been doing this and it has prepped them for their conference. I applaud benedictine and Rockford for playing some tough non-conference teams.

As far as the loon from LaCrosse, he is entitled to his opinion.  I have a different one. Maybe he should call out the WIAC to step up and be a D2 league like some of the Michigan and Minnesota schools. I think that aligns them to apples to apples. This would allow them to compete against schools with the same advantages and disadvantages, IMO.

Playing the CCIW and the IIAC is a big challenge for the NAC teams. I think long term it makes their teams and program better. Many of these schools have great facilities also but there tuition is a bit more than $9,000/year.

Good Luck to everyone's team this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 18, 2008, 02:14:38 PM
The WIAC is unique in D3. They are state schools with great facilities and a very low cost compared to the private school education.

Yet they are not unique. The NJAC fits that mold as well, Christopher Newport, Salisbury. And there are other state schools in Division III, though not many have great facilities.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on September 18, 2008, 03:01:15 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 18, 2008, 02:14:38 PM
.

As far as the loon from LaCrosse, he is entitled to his opinion.  I have a different one. Maybe he should call out the WIAC to step up and be a D2 league like some of the Michigan and Minnesota schools. I think that aligns them to apples to apples. This would allow them to compete against schools with the same advantages and disadvantages, IMO.


I know lots of people who have been calling for the WIAC to move up to D2 for quite a while now. The biggest obstacle is the state govenrment in Wisconsin. They would have to okay the move to D2 and I don't see that happening. With D2 comes more expenses and the schools have a tough enough balancing act as it is with trying to keep tuition somewhat affordable and yet fund what they are already doing. And I doubt the people of Wisconsin would be willing to foot the bill in additional taxes. Madison, Milwaukee, and Green Bay are the only schools allowed to be D1 in the UW system and Parkside is the only one that is allowed to be D2. And I doubt the WIAC schools would be willing to take on Division 2 without offering some scholarships.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 18, 2008, 04:03:57 PM
Hickory;

Good points. If they go scholarship at least the tuition is not much. I wonder why the media loon does not call out the people of Wisconsin on this issue. Leave the Private colleges alone. They are all struggling without the large amount of tax dollars coming in. If the WIAC is having problems getting opponents then the loon should call for help in the right places. The Wisconsin Private schools are not the place to be calling, IMHO.

Enough on this subject from me.

Whose QB has looked good this year? I hear the CUW and Rockford QB have looked good but the other parts of the offenses have struggled. IMO they and the CUC and AU QB are good ones. This week will certainly test everyone in the NAC to the max except for WLC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 18, 2008, 04:13:47 PM
Pat;  You are right on that point. The WIAC has it all. If I was a high school athlete in Wisconsin I would enroll immediately. Play with the best in Wisconsin and agaist the best in Wisconsin. Great Facitities and big crowds (big time school game day feeling), Very inexpensive tuition and a good education, Great campus life with large campus enrollments for that big school feel. Tough for a Wisconsin High schooler to turn down, I would not. The WIAC is a great conference in all sports. This loon from the LaCrosse media is off base, IMHO.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on September 18, 2008, 04:31:24 PM
I think that schools like UWW and UW Lacrosse and maybe Point -- should move up to D2 

Pat -- do you know off hand what the requirements are for d2 as far as attendance and scholarships, or anything else?

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 04:36:21 PM
There are none. Max scholarships is 36. Minimum is 0.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 04:36:21 PM
There are none. Max scholarships is 36. Minimum is 0.

Sorry, but I should mention that in order to be in Division II, you must offer a certain amount of scholarship money to athletics as a whole. It just doesn't have to be for football.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on September 18, 2008, 04:43:25 PM
thanks for the input

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 18, 2008, 06:51:17 PM
Old 40, unfortunately you are right on with your picks, rough day it will be.

IWU at AU- IWU wins easy after an early struggle by AU. To much CCIW. 31-14
Rockford at Alma- Alma fires up the Scott Gun and wins big, 42-7
Carthage at Lakeland- To much CCIW. The Redmen continue to air it out. Lakeland does score. 56-14.
Olivet at CUC- Olivet is looking for their first win. To much for the Cougars. 48-7
Wheaton at CUW- Wheaton is coming off a big win. Close for a while. To much CCIW. 42-7
M.Baptist at Macalaster- Minnesota will not be kind to the NAC team. 48-0
St. Scholastca at WLC- The saints play their first game ever. WLC wins 28-13.
NCC at Benedictine- NCC is loaded.38-0. To much CCIW.

I just copied and pasted your picks,  ;D, I hope you don't mind.

Actually, I could see IWU and Wheaton winning by a bigger margin as well as Olivet (sorry CUC,  :().  I think these games will be over by halftime.  I want to see NAC succeed to as much as the next guy, but this is a tough overall schedule on Saturday.

Good luck though to everyone.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on September 18, 2008, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2008, 04:36:21 PM
There are none. Max scholarships is 36. Minimum is 0.

Sorry, but I should mention that in order to be in Division II, you must offer a certain amount of scholarship money to athletics as a whole. It just doesn't have to be for football.

Pat, are the scholarships the same as Division 1 where you could only have 36 players on scholarship or could you split up the scholarship money and have 72 players each with a half scholarship?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2008, 12:43:19 AM
You can split scholarships at D-II and my understanding, though I am not an expert, is it's fairly common.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: AndOne on September 19, 2008, 02:51:59 AM
Indeed! I know a young man who was offered a 3/4ths scholarship at Winona St, MN in 2006-07.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 19, 2008, 06:28:06 AM
Concordia-WI gets some attention here:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=796606

A Lakeland LB gets some props here:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=796572

    (Scroll down a ways on the 2nd link, it's toward the bottom).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ausid on September 20, 2008, 01:41:38 PM
Illinois Wesleyan @ Aurora is available with live stats

http://www.aurora.edu/football/xlive.htm
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 02:08:19 PM
Concordia-WI at Wheaton-IL just underway:
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 02:14:46 PM
Wheaton 3, Concordia-WI 0   still early in 1st.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 02:35:06 PM
Wheaton 10, Concordia-WI 0   End of 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 02:42:03 PM
Wheaton 17, Concordia-WI 0  13:53 left in 2nd

(60-yd TD bomb)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 02:52:50 PM
Wheaton 24, Concordia-WI 0  Approx halfway thru 2nd Qrtr.

Update on 2 other games:

Alma 17, Rockford 14  Half 
Olivet 21, Concordia-Chicago 0  1st Qrtr 

(Both per MIAA website.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 03:08:21 PM
Wheaton 24, Concordia-WI 3  (late in 2nd Qrtr).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 03:16:19 PM
Halftime:  Wheaton 24, Concordia-WI 3.

Tune-in on Carthage-Lakeland:  Lakeland 21, Carthage 12  --halftime. (That's not a mis-print, folks.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on September 20, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
Gosh, I really want to vent -- I am listening to the audio feed from CUW and the announcers were asking,"I dont understand what the Falcons are doing?  They just intercept a pass with 43 sec left -- nothing happened

I was privately chided for my stand against the poor offensive play calling  -- Im done being tight lipped --  

These players are not even being given a chance with this offense -- we have players that can match up physically with anyone in our league and most outside our league and -- yet the play calling is in my opinion poor

24 - 3 at half?  I wish the Falcons the best and in my opinion until the offense scheme is changed (improved) the team will struggle.  

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 03:27:47 PM
No offense, CU Alum, but I'll switch to Carthage/Lakeland.

Updates on other action:

Alma 45, Rockford 14   4th Qrtr
Olivet 38, Concordia-Chicago 0   Half
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on September 20, 2008, 03:35:48 PM
frustratingly enough I have to go perform a wedding and so my depart --
I would love to help out -- sorry for the inability to aid this board with some scores

next week I am photographing azusa pacific and stevens point -- ill have to see if my son join me and update with his i phone


have agreat day all -- i hope lakeland hangs on


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 20, 2008, 03:42:57 PM
IWU 17, Aurora 14 at the half.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 04:10:26 PM
Updates on other NAthCon action:

Alma 59, Rockford 21   Final
Olivet 45, Concordia-Chicago 0   3rd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 20, 2008, 04:11:09 PM
Wheaton 34
CUW 3
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 04:12:00 PM
Lakeland 21, Carthage 19  1:16 left in 3rd Qrtr
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 04:15:29 PM
Lakeland 21, Carthage 19   End of 3rd Qrtr
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: OC_SID on September 20, 2008, 04:22:34 PM
Olivet 59, Concordia Chicago 0 (4th quarter)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 04:22:56 PM
Carthage 27, Lakeland 21    13 minutes left in 4th Qrtr. (on 4th and inches, the Muskies give up a 69-yd TD bomb).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 04:52:55 PM
Carthage 27, Lakeland 21  Final

(Red Men win despite committing 5 turnovers).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 05:08:06 PM
IL Wesleyan 31, Aurora 28   Final

(This was a real back-and-forth game late in the 4th Qrtr).

Another final:

Macalester 28, Maranatha Baptist 14 (off Macalester's site).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 20, 2008, 05:14:04 PM
(Muted) congratulations to Aurora and Lakeland.  Most coaches HATE the concept of 'moral victories', but both those games were a heckuva lot closer than most (including me) expected.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 05:59:06 PM
Final:  WLC 36, St. Scholastica 29.  :D :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on September 20, 2008, 06:14:03 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 05:59:06 PM
Final:  WLC 36, St. Scholastica 29.  :D :D

I was very impressed with St. Scholastica's no-huddle offense. They were able to keep the chains moving and got a late TD to pull within 7. They got the onside kick but their comeback ended with an interception. Pretty good showing for a first time team. Especially with how the game started they almost looked lost out there. Congrats to WLC for taking advantage of the oppurtunities early and holding on for the homecoming win.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 08:12:54 PM
Midway through the 1st Qrtr:  North Central 7, Benedictine 0.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 08:18:34 PM
North Central 14, Benedictine 0   Just over 5 minutes left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 08:34:17 PM
North Central 21, Benedictine 0  11:48 left in 2nd Qrtr
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 08:43:29 PM
North Central 28, Benedictine 0  Midway thru 2nd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 08:50:22 PM
North Central 28, Benedictine 3  Approx 6 minutes left in 2nd.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2008, 08:57:59 PM
North Central 35, Benedictine 3  3:20 left in 2nd.

(This one' appears to be turning into a rout.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 21, 2008, 06:50:22 PM
Good job by WLC for notching a victory. The conferences only one this week. Good job.

I was really impressed with AU this week. They looked very good especially on Defense. They should be the leader of the pack in the NAC. IMHO, they can run the table with that defense.

Good job also to Lakeland for their close game with Carthage. I thought it would be a blowout. Also looks like M.Baptist got on the board and battled well against Macalaster. I'm sure lack of numbers hurt them. They made it close.

I guess everyone is off this week but BU who plays North Park.

Anyone else see any games? Is the QB from Carthage that good? I hear he can really wing it. One last comment, don't count out CUW. 0-3 against very, very good competition.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fanofathletics on September 23, 2008, 11:03:31 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 21, 2008, 06:50:22 PM

Good job also to Lakeland for their close game with Carthage. I thought it would be a blowout.

I also thought it was going to be a blowout but i also have a few comments on the game. I arrived at the game midway through the second quarter when lakeland was up 21- 12.  I was rather suprised due to the fact that i thought it was going to be a blowout.  Upon watching the game lakeland was moving the ball well and the team was playing fairly well.  The teams went into halftime and carthage was playing the same ball that they were before the half commiting alot of mistakes.  For lakeland though it seemed as though another team came out of the locker room.  I later found out that the coaching staff was yelling and screaming at the players that they werenot playing hard enough or good enough.  I didn't think anything of this at the time because they could have been playing better and maybe a speech would get them fired up.  I then preceded to watch the game and watch the sidelines the coaching staff continued to belittle and berate the team.  This included obcentities that were said and heard by all that were in the stands.  I understand if the f word flys in the heat of the moment but the lakeland head coach continuously let lose with a string of swear words.  This didn't bother me as much until i saw and a heard the head coach belittle a player directly call him "a worthless piece of **** player".  It wasnt said in private it was said so that numerous people in the stands heard including myself.  Is this really what d3 football has become?  During every game that i have attended the annoucer speaks of sportsmanship from both teams. is that considered very sportsmenlike?  From what i understand, this is not the only time the head coach has done this either.  Personally i feel something should be done to uphold the sanctity of the game.  i think this was poor class from the coach and the coaching staff at Lakeland college.  Another thing that bothered me about the game was that the coach was mad at the players for not executing the plays (which they weren't) so the coach had every right to yell at them for that but it works both ways.  The playcalling was absolutely horendous toward the end of game.  Overall the games was played well on both sides by the players but the coaches i feel was a different story.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: SCARED KITTY on September 24, 2008, 04:54:20 PM
fanofathletics, I have to agree with you. I have watch alot of games and coaching and Landland' staff have got to be the worst. Not just this year (which it is getting worst) but last year too. I have gotten to the point were I'm thinking of calling the AD. No the staff is not yelling at my kid, but there is no reason for screaming and swearing that everyone in the stand can hear. Yes there are times when things are said at the wrong time and place, but not weekly. I have heard that this is not something that just happens on the sidelines.  The players hear this from the staff all the time. Which is making it hard for the players to have respect for the staff. And as most people know if your players respect there coach they will be great players on and off the field. It's to bad that the coach doesn't respect the players, because with out the players he wouldn't have a job. I'm just glad this is my kid's last year at Lakeland.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 25, 2008, 05:57:09 PM
Slow weekend for the NAC this week. The week before conference action opens.

BU has an opportunity to get a win this year against a CCIW team. This will be a close game with Special teams and Defense being the keys. BU over North Park 10-7.

Now that the non conference games are about over any thoughts on who is looking to take the 1st. NAC Crown? IMO, from what I have seen, AU should walk through the conference. They have the top Defense in the league so far and their QB is a slinger and return last years leading rusher who no one could stop. They are going to be tough to beat. CUW is still the champ until someone beats them, they play AU on the road. Rockford, BU and Lakeland most likey will fight it out for 2-4. Or does CUC come from the depths and pulls the upset, they have talent and will be dangerous if overlooked.

Good weekend to all.

Travel safe.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fanofathletics on September 25, 2008, 08:27:48 PM
I think it is a toss up in the conference this year.  Usually it comes down to concordia wisconsin and lakeland but due to coaching and player problems at both schools i think that Aurora has a chance to come in and take it this year.  I am excited for the conference play to open! good luck to all teams
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: oldnuthin on September 26, 2008, 09:49:45 AM
I watched Aurora last week and came away very impressed. Very good line on both sides of the ball. The offensensive line needs to be more consistent in their runnblocking  to take pressure off a qb who likes to throw and is good at it. I saw lakeland scrimmage Carthage and think Aurora can handle them, but know nuthin about CUW




Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 26, 2008, 10:23:43 AM
oldnuthin;

You are correct. I was also at the AU game and was very impressed with their QB. IMO, he is the best in the conference and one of the best in a long time in this league (old IBFC).

M.Baptist concerns me because of the size of their roster. Their web site states they have 28 players. They start the conference with CUW, then AU and then BU. I hope they can have enough healthy players left. IMO, everyone needs to approach this game with that in mind and look to make it a JV game for 2-3 quarters. Good Luck to M.Baptist, I want you guys to survive and be able to build your roster up to the 50's or 60's. Good Luck.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on September 26, 2008, 10:37:00 AM
Old 40 --

In regard to the treating of players -- Lakeland's is not the only staff in the confernece that has suffered from crass unprofessionalism --

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 26, 2008, 12:03:54 PM
CU Alum;

Not sure if I understand your post. It was some one else talking about the lakeland coaches, but I agree it happens all the time. My son plays for another school in the conference and I wish someone would yell at him besides me. Unfortunately they (coaches) Ill. D3 school in the NAC do not care if he does good or bad.

What's ypur thoughts on the conference race this year? Have you seen the Falcons play? Can they repeat for the 3rd time? I thought their QB from last year was pretty good along with their RB's.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 05:10:44 AM
Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2008, 05:57:09 PM
Slow weekend for the NAC this week. The week before conference action opens.

BU has an opportunity to get a win this year against a CCIW team. This will be a close game with Special teams and Defense being the keys. BU over North Park 10-7.

Now that the non conference games are about over any thoughts on who is looking to take the 1st. NAC Crown? IMO, from what I have seen, AU should walk through the conference. They have the top Defense in the league so far and their QB is a slinger and return last years leading rusher who no one could stop. They are going to be tough to beat. CUW is still the champ until someone beats them, they play AU on the road. Rockford, BU and Lakeland most likey will fight it out for 2-4. Or does CUC come from the depths and pulls the upset, they have talent and will be dangerous if overlooked.

Good weekend to all.

Travel safe.

I'll also go with Benedictine over North Park. I think the Eagles will want all the more to make a statement after being blown out last week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 02:54:36 PM
Benedictine/North Park on deck:
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 03:20:00 PM
Benedictine 3, North Park 0,  4:21 left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 03:24:35 PM
North Park 7, Benedictine 3   1:49 left in 1st Qrtr:
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 03:30:21 PM
North Park 7, Benedictine 3  End of 1st Qrtr:
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 03:43:16 PM
North Park 14, Benedictine 3  Just less than 8 1/2 minutes left in 2nd.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 03:47:52 PM
North Park 21, Benedictine 3  Approx 7 minutes left in 2nd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 04:08:22 PM
North Park 21, Benedictine 3, Half
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 04:40:52 PM
North Park 28,  Benedictine 3    Approx 9 1/2 minutes left in the 3rd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2008, 05:02:50 PM
North Park 35, Benedictine 3   14:51 to go in 4th Qrtr.

(IL Eagles commit another turnover a minute or so later--good night! :-X :-X :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 29, 2008, 04:43:21 PM
Glad the non conference schedule is over. BU was disappointing in their lost. After the double reverse pass they looked as if they were giving up. I would expect them to come to play next week against their rivals AU.

Having seen a couple of the teams play this year I think it's a 2 team race. AU and CUW. AU is clearly playing very well and look to have everything going, Good run and psaa offense with a tough hard nose defense. I think Rockford, BU and Lakeland will battle for 3rd, 4th, or 5th.

What does everyone else see for the NAC race this year?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 02, 2008, 08:30:06 AM
NAC picks for this week. Week 1 of the NAC schedule

CUW over M. Baptist- 46-0. Ouch CUW gets first win

CUC over WLC- 28-24. All Offense as the home team wins in the 4th. qtr.

Rockford over Lakeland-14-12. Rockford has the "O" and QB. Lakeland has fallen to the depths.

AU over BU- 38-3. AU gets revenge from last year. BU is not hitting on all cylinders this year. Having seen AU aginst IWU, they have the whole package Defense, Best QB and good rush offense.

Good Luck to everyones teams. I will check out the AU-BU game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 03, 2008, 07:40:05 PM
WLCALUM83's picks:

Concordia-WI
Concordia-Chicago (will want to make a statement real bad at home
Lakeland
Aurora
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 04, 2008, 11:02:40 PM
Congrats to AU for a very impressive win. The QB looked great (best in the league). Their passing game destoyed BU. It looked as if BU had no emotion. Could be a long year for BU. AU is on pace to win it all. Right now IMHO, they are the best team in the league. Can anyone stop them? Any thoughts?

Special congrats to CUW and Lakeland for getting their first wins of the year. I hear WLC played very well in their win at CUC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 05, 2008, 10:08:47 AM
Updates on the WLC game were being given at a WLC home volleyball meet I attended. Sounds like it took the Warriors a while, but they must have got it going in the 2nd half. (Now I can eat my crow with this! ;D)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ftballfan09 on October 05, 2008, 09:41:20 PM
After looking over some posts, I have more then a few things to say. First, I am in no way surprised at the comments made by the Lakeland coach. They have proven more then once to be true a- holes. Their tema takes after the coaches and hopefully Karma will catch up with them. Another issue would be Benne. recent losses. I am less the surprised, they have added numbers but have sacrificed quality for quantity. They are just as bad as ever, and I for one and not surprised. Next would be AU winning the conference. While I am tired of seeing CUW as the champ, I do not think that AU is good enough to beat them. I think that they will struggle through the entire conference schedule. They have had talent in the past, but personally they were never on the elite level. Finally, CUC after reading about a big win, then a poor loss to Eureka (2 yrs in a row) then a blow out, I am hoping to see an improved, healthy and hungry team charge into conference play. Enough rambling and good day to all!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: DAGODFATHER on October 06, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
I 100% believe that AU is the front runner to win the NAC this year.  They have the most talent on both sides of the ball of any team in the conference.  They have the best QB, RB, OL, and DL in the conference and they will run the table in conference play.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fanofathletics on October 06, 2008, 05:39:58 PM
I dont think Aurora is going to run through the conferenc... If they do then i will gladly congratulate them... don't count out concordia wisconsin, or lakeland.... both teams did lose quite a bit but they still have a lot of players from last years conference championship teams.. both teams have good young talent that the older guys on the teams are working with... Both teams know how to win down the stretch... i'm not saying that either lakeland or concordia are going to win but they have been the two best teams in the conference the past 5-7 years and they sure as heck are not going to go down without a fight.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: oldnuthin on October 06, 2008, 05:45:53 PM
Having seen lakeland. I would be surprised if they stayed with AU. I agree with previous poster; solid o-line great D-line and a very good QB. I think they will run the table.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ftballfan09 on October 07, 2008, 02:09:29 PM
I have not seen AU play this year. I am sure that they are good but just because you guys think there are supreme, does not mean they WILL win. Come on now I have seen good AU teams do very poorly and I think this will be another season of the same.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: oldnuthin on October 07, 2008, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: ftballfan09 on October 07, 2008, 02:09:29 PM
I have not seen AU play this year. I am sure that they are good but just because you guys think there are supreme, does not mean they WILL win. Come on now I have seen good AU teams do very poorly and I think this will be another season of the same.

I dont remember saying they were supreme, just very good. I do not pretend to know their history, but they seem to have a senior laden roster, with excellent leaders and very good talent on the line on  both sides of the ball. Your opinion is based on history, mine was based on what i saw. your post sounds more like a hopet hat they do poorly because you have a dog in this fight. I do not have a dog in this fight and am just stating what i have seen. Good luck to your team who ever it is.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 08, 2008, 12:38:48 PM
Bittersweet news about a fellow who was very instrumental in getting the athletics ball rolling in WLC's infancy here:

http://www.northernathleticsconf.com/releases/2008_10/20081006b.html
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on October 08, 2008, 01:37:04 PM
I have to agree with the above posts.  I have seen AU play this year and they look very good even in their only loss to IWU.  I believe they have a lot of returning starters from last year.  These returners should push AU to a NAC championship.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 08, 2008, 08:41:37 PM
This weeks picks, Week 2;

AU over M.Baptist- 52-7, AU dominates. M.Baptist moves the ball some through the air.

Rockford over CUC- Rockford bounces back and wins 38-14

CUW over BU- BU gave them a big scare last year but this year CUW rolls 24-13. CUW runs and passes for a complete game.

Lakeland over WLC- 28-27. Lakeland's defense is suspect this year. Who has the ball last may win.

Good Luck to every NAC team. Safe travels for everyone.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on October 09, 2008, 12:10:03 AM
Ill take WLC over Lakeland in an upset 28-25.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2008, 11:06:23 AM
WLCALUM83's picks:

Aurora
Rockford
Concordia-WI
Lakeland (putting my head above my heart on this one-even though the  Warriors are at home)

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: cudub on October 11, 2008, 03:18:16 PM
BU- 9
CUW-0

At the half

CUW sounds terrible every time they put a decent drive together they fumble.  Two fumbles on the misdirection exchange.  Also CUW's QB t-pach is out
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: cudub on October 11, 2008, 04:48:38 PM
CUW gets the win.  But they did not deserve it, they fumbled trying to run out the clock! I have yet to see them in person, but if AU is as good as people are saying, CUW doesnt stand a chance in this conference playing like they did today.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 11, 2008, 08:35:59 PM
Just heard WLC took it on the chin, too, losing to Lakeland, 26-7
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 11, 2008, 08:39:29 PM
Aurora 45, Maranatha Baptist 6,

Rockford 41, Concordia-Chicago 38-OT
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on October 12, 2008, 11:54:13 AM
man how bad is Rockford?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: oldnuthin on October 12, 2008, 03:37:46 PM
Boy were some of the fans unhappy with the BU coaching staff yesterday. Very boisterous group of unhappy parents. BU seemed very unorganized, and the play calling was very suspect. some one previously noted that BU has sacrificed quality for quantity in their players and it sure seemed like it yesterday. I was not real impressed with the coaching staff as a whole either. Also thought CUW would be a better team, but came away very unimpressed. I still think AU is the cream of this league.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 12, 2008, 06:25:10 PM
Looks like AU will walk through the NAC. No one can stop them. They certainly have the top defense and their QB is for sure the best in the league. IMHO, they may beat CUW by 3 TD'S.  There is no one else in the league with the skill and Defense of AU. If they win this Saturday, I think it's all over.

At least BU had some emotion at this game. They showed no emotion at the AU game.

How is M.Baptist doing as far as numbers go? Are they still near 30 players? I hope they can finish the season. It looks like they have a good QB and some receivers. I hope you guys can pull off a upset this year. Good Luck.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 13, 2008, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: footballguy1 on October 12, 2008, 11:54:13 AM
man how bad is Rockford?

Box score off Regent web-site indicates that the Cougars got off to a fast start early, and the game ended up being a real back and forth contest. Rockford's pass defense gave up 316 yards in the game.

Offensively, CUC went pass-wild, Rockford went rush-wild.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fanofathletics on October 14, 2008, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: old 40 on October 12, 2008, 06:25:10 PM
Looks like AU will walk through the NAC. No one can stop them. They certainly have the top defense and their QB is for sure the best in the league. IMHO, they may beat CUW by 3 TD'S.  There is no one else in the league with the skill and Defense of AU. If they win this Saturday, I think it's all over.

At least BU had some emotion at this game. They showed no emotion at the AU game.

How is M.Baptist doing as far as numbers go? Are they still near 30 players? I hope they can finish the season. It looks like they have a good QB and some receivers. I hope you guys can pull off a upset this year. Good Luck.

Lakeland has played well the past two games and i believe they can at least contend with AU not saying they will but in any case they will contend their offense and defense have been coming around.  I have not seen AU play yet so if they really are as good as everyone says then lakeland would have to pay a mistake free game to win!  I guess we will see when the game comes around
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on October 14, 2008, 08:38:28 PM
I'm with Old 40 I think AU has the personnel, a stingy defense, a quaterback that plays smart, and about 20 starters from last years squad that could have gone 7-3.   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 14, 2008, 09:05:59 PM
Kudo's for AU and CUW with a write up in the around the region section. It's under the Midwest region. Good article on AU's run to the title and only CUW standing in the way. They play this week which should be a great game. I will be there to take it in. I think each team presents some challenges to the other team. I will save my predictions until Thursday. The place should be jammed. Good Luck to both teams.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: iitwi88 on October 15, 2008, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: old 40 on October 14, 2008, 09:05:59 PM
Kudo's for AU and CUW with a write up in the around the region section. It's under the Midwest region. Good article on AU's run to the title and only CUW standing in the way. They play this week which should be a great game. I will be there to take it in. I think each team presents some challenges to the other team. I will save my predictions until Thursday. The place should be jammed. Good Luck to both teams.
Just wondering does anyone know what happened to some of the players for CUW.  Their punter was not at the game, their number one wide out was at the game but not suited up, one of their 1st team all conference linebackers is out, was there injuries or team infractions.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 15, 2008, 12:17:47 PM
WLCALUM83's picks for this weekend.

Benedictine over Maranatha (IL Eagle squad is at home, with more overall depth)

Aurora over Concordia-WI  (Spartans also at home, but this figures to be a real dogfight.)

Lakeland over Concordia-Chicago  (Could be a tight one--depending on which team steps it up more-both have been inconsistent at times.)

Rockford over WLC  (Renewal of the Warriors' first ever football rivalry. Another tight one if the Warriors can stop the run and take better care of the ball on offense.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 15, 2008, 06:49:44 PM
My picks for this week;

BU over M.Baptist, 21-20 M.Baptist will move and score through the air.

AU over CUW, 31-14. AU shouts down their Offense and scores on the ground, in the air and via special teams.

WLC over Rockford, 28-27, A very close game WLC defense a bit better. Both QB'S have the outcome in their hands.

Lakeland over CUC, 42-40 Defense may be hard to find. The Cougars are very explosive in the air and have a good back. Lakeland has been up and down like a yo-yo.

Good Luck to everyones teams and safe travels. I am going to catch the AU-CUW title game.
Title: Frustrated
Post by: NoNeedToHideMyName on October 17, 2008, 01:37:57 PM
Honestly, I was 100% sure I put everything that has to do with D-3 football behind me once I stopped playing. But as an alum I have to wonder what is going on over there at CUC?

Why can't they stop teams from running the ball all over them. I'll admit every team I was on at CUC was a joke on offense. We had joke receivers a joke of a QB and no o-line. We played 90% of each game on defense.... but we could at least tackle.  When I was leaving is when the new coach took over and everything appeared to be on the up and up.

As blunt as possible these kids on D look soft. They don't hit, they let tiny running backs make them look foolish. I've had to leave each of the games I was at out of frustration. I understand a loss (trust me) but to let a running back tee off on a linebacker is a joke. This team will never be good no matter how many kids from Florida they get if everyone is afraid to lay someone out. I know people from the team look at these boards...so what's going on. Why aren't you hitting? All that speed and no collision is a shame.

Maybe you should man up (i.e. grow a pair) and tackle someone. You will never win a game giving up 250+ rushing yards every week. #52 you know who you are....you need to pick up your defense because you're a joke right now. I expect to see more than 5 solo tackles from you per game. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NoNeedToHideMyName on October 17, 2008, 01:39:49 PM
CUC over Lakeland 21-10....if they can learn to tackle
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 18, 2008, 10:50:22 AM
If the Lakeland-CUC game is competitive today, I'll be surprised. Lakeland should win going away. Lakeland easily has the best defense in the league, and one of the best secondarys in the region. This idea that only Concordia Wisconsin stands in the way of Aurora winning the title is really odd to me. If there is one program over the last few seasons that needs to prove it is for real it's Aurora. I'll believe it when I see they can beat both Concordia and Lakeland. Aurora didn't play anyone in the nonconference season like Concordia Wis and Lakeland did. Today would be a nice start for Aurora to beat CUW, but until they do that the title runs through CUW and Lakeland. Don't forget Aurora lost to Rockford last season and barely beat Wisconsin Lutheran, so they are by no means a shoe in to win this conference.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on October 18, 2008, 12:47:29 PM
the live stats for AU CUW is not up

anyone out there with a score?

???
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on October 18, 2008, 01:04:06 PM
yep, im a dummy -- I glanced at the scoreboard on the site here and saw the yellow box -- I assumed they started an early time -- my bad --

in between the wedding I have to perform I'll follow CU and AU and update

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 18, 2008, 01:31:09 PM
Noneedtohidemyname-

ouch man....ouch
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on October 18, 2008, 02:48:45 PM
CUW 3 AU 0 about 11 left in the half

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NoNeedToHideMyName on October 18, 2008, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on October 18, 2008, 01:31:09 PM
Noneedtohidemyname-

ouch man....ouch

Tough love...tough love...they have an explosive offense now and all the talent in the world....they're just not playing like they want to win every play. 

Hopefully, I can be proven wrong today. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 18, 2008, 03:01:08 PM
CUC 21, Lakeland 12 middle of the second quarter - so about what i said, never mind.  ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on October 18, 2008, 03:08:30 PM
AU 7 CUW 3

3 min to half
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on October 18, 2008, 03:22:45 PM
AU 7 CU 6 Half
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Post by: CU Alum on October 18, 2008, 03:57:26 PM
AU 14 CU 12  10 min left in the 3rd
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on October 18, 2008, 04:08:02 PM
AU 21  CU 12 6min left in the 3rd
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on October 18, 2008, 05:13:48 PM
Game over AU wins!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 18, 2008, 05:27:48 PM
Stunner in River Forest,

CUC beats Lakeland 35-32 with 20 seconds left in the game.  Looks like the offense got it in gear. 

If CUC played like this against Eureka and WLC they could be 4-2 so far, maybe 5-1 if they hung in there against Rockford.  But, that's the woulda, coulda, shoulda game,  ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on October 18, 2008, 05:55:38 PM
AU proved today that they are indeed the team to beat in the NAC.....best defense, QB, and RB in the conference; great o-line.

who cares who you play in non conference as long as you bring it during conference and AU has done it.  But speaking of non conference, AU did play a darn good IWU team and almost pulled it out....

anybody have any more updates from the NAC?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NoNeedToHideMyName on October 18, 2008, 06:12:29 PM
Am I impressed....yes.  Am I sold...no. I want to see a string of wins and I'm still waiting on that d to hit. but good job.    
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 18, 2008, 07:48:25 PM
Final:  WLC 18, Rockford 7

Also heard Benedictine routed Maranatha.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 19, 2008, 10:55:22 AM
Congrats to BU for picking up their first win. Also to AU for beating the champs for the last two years of the IBFC. IMHO, they have it wrapped up. They looked very good yesterday. CUW were the only ones with a chance to stop AU. AU will roll in the next four.

Congrats to CUC on a big win over Lakeland.  I heard they passed and ran all over Lakeland.

Good Luck to everyone next week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Weiner on October 19, 2008, 08:49:31 PM
I am glad to see the young Cougar football squad pull out a win against the Muskies. It was a crazy atmosphere at CUC and the cougars deserved the win the way they played. Offense came out early and scored first and I think from then on (yes, in the first quarter) they sent the tempo. The team never gave up.

Props to #10 with the winning touchdown catch.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: iitwi88 on October 20, 2008, 10:21:22 AM
Quote from: footballguy1 on October 18, 2008, 05:55:38 PM
AU proved today that they are indeed the team to beat in the NAC.....best defense, QB, and RB in the conference; great o-line.

who cares who you play in non conference as long as you bring it during conference and AU has done it.  But speaking of non conference, AU did play a darn good IWU team and almost pulled it out....

anybody have any more updates from the NAC?
so i was at the AU CUW game and i think that concordia might have been the better team on the field but did anyone see some of the calls that the refs had been making in the game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 20, 2008, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: iitwi88 on October 20, 2008, 10:21:22 AM
Quote from: footballguy1 on October 18, 2008, 05:55:38 PM
AU proved today that they are indeed the team to beat in the NAC.....best defense, QB, and RB in the conference; great o-line.

who cares who you play in non conference as long as you bring it during conference and AU has done it.  But speaking of non conference, AU did play a darn good IWU team and almost pulled it out....

anybody have any more updates from the NAC?
so i was at the AU CUW game and i think that concordia might have been the better team on the field but did anyone see some of the calls that the refs had been making in the game.


See now what you're doing here is trying to justify the Falcons loss, and while I heard it was a good battle, IMHO the better team won, AU will most likely walk through the conference, Justify the loss how you will but hands down the better team won on Saturday
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on October 20, 2008, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: iitwi88 on October 20, 2008, 10:21:22 AM
Quote from: footballguy1 on October 18, 2008, 05:55:38 PM
AU proved today that they are indeed the team to beat in the NAC.....best defense, QB, and RB in the conference; great o-line.

who cares who you play in non conference as long as you bring it during conference and AU has done it.  But speaking of non conference, AU did play a darn good IWU team and almost pulled it out....

anybody have any more updates from the NAC?
so i was at the AU CUW game and i think that concordia might have been the better team on the field but did anyone see some of the calls that the refs had been making in the game.


I was also at the AU/CUW game and there is now way that CUW is the better team.  I think the game that CUW played was pretty much there best effort while AU was not even close to their best football.  I also think that none of the refs calls determined the ballgame one way or the other....they were not very good, but they were not very good for both teams....AU is the best team in the NAC and will run the table
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NuTS on October 20, 2008, 07:02:18 PM
In defense of iitwi88, I too was at the game and noticed the questionable officiating.  That afternoon I checked the NAC website to confirm what I suspected.  In the first 5 games this season CUW had 188 total yards in penalties ( 37.6 per game ).  Saturday they were assessed 124 yards of penalties.

That being said, I also think that AU is a good football team and may still have won the game.  This past Saturday was not CUW's best showing and if these teams were to play 10 times they may well split 5-5.

Good luck to both teams for the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on October 20, 2008, 07:31:33 PM
I was not at the game but I have very reliable sources that told me that a mojority of CUW's penalties were unsportsmanlike, and that all were just, from what I hear they were playing a little dirty
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NuTS on October 20, 2008, 08:11:31 PM
Your source is close.  Three penalties for Unsportsmanlike Conduct (41 yards).  I know the first UC penalty was for something said after a scramble for a loose ball that CUW came up with but was awarded to AU.  The flag was not thrown until after all the action had stopped, I'm sure the CUW player must have said something questioning the call but not for dirty play.  The other two I'm not sure about but you know what they say:  the ref always catches the second guy.   ;)  I feel both teams played a clean hard fought contest.  I am not questioning AU's quality or the win that they deserve.  I am just disappointed with the inconsistant officiating. ???
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Weiner on October 20, 2008, 09:18:44 PM
Aurora- 5-1 (3-0)
Wisconsin Lutheran- 3-3 (2-1)
Concordia Wisconsin- 2-4 (2-1)
Lakeland- 2-4 (2-1)
Concordia Chicago- 2-4 (1-2)
Benedictine- 1-5 (1-2)
Rockford- 1-5 (1-2)
Maranatha- 0-6 (0-3)

With a little less than a month left, where do you all see these teams moving? Any shockers?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 20, 2008, 10:42:45 PM
AU appears to be the class of the league having seen them 3 times. There could be a couple of trap games but they should be able to handle anything.

CUW will come back and be respectable this year. They gave AU a Great Game Saturday. Yes the officials were bad but you have to play through those things. CUW did have better stats especially on passing. It was a suprise to see them throw on AU as much as they did.

I like WLC to be a dark horse in the last 4 games. They will upset someone. They beat AU last year but this is this year.

IMHO, I think Lakeland is out, apparently they have no defense. CUC proved that as did Rockford. I think they are still a dangerous team if they find some defensive players.

Rockford could surprise someone as could CUC if you are not careful. It looks like Lakeland found out the hard way. Rockford has beaten AU the last 2 years but this is a new year.

AU should run the table but I think there may be a surprise.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 21, 2008, 06:35:57 PM
IMHO, WLC should win at least 1 more game. I'd be satisfied with 3 in-conference Warrior wins--a fourth would be icing on the cake for this poster.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 22, 2008, 11:13:17 AM
WLCALUM83's picks for 10/25 match-ups:

Concordia-Chicagoover Maranatha Methinks CUC will wear down the Crusaders late in this one.

Aurora over Rockford

Lakeland over Benedictine IMHO, this is the most likely of the four to go either way.

Concordia-WI  over WLC --Falcons have always had WLC's number.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sotha sil on October 22, 2008, 10:10:29 PM
Being honest, i am not sure cuw will come back from this loss.  After seeing the games and hearing what i have about the new head coach, I do not believe in these falcons.  The players seem uninspired and/or unwilling to listen to the new coach.   I know alumni have lost the interest they used to have and its kinda sad.  We used to love watching the young talent come in and progress.  We loved meeting new coaches and being involved in alumni events.  Now, the players don't respect what has been done, new coaches ignore/brush off alumni that come in and many of the alumni events have been cancled.  School pride for the football team also looks to be at a low.  It's a sad time at C,U.....doubleU
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 22, 2008, 10:40:53 PM
IMHO this week is character week for some teams. Can some teams bounce back or will they turn belly up and ditch the rest of the season. This could also be called statement week by some teams.

My guesses for this week;

AU over Rockford- 28-21, Rockford can be dangerous and leads the league in rush offense. AU will have to be ready. Rockford has won the last two years. Close game.

CUC over M.Baptist- 56-21, M.Baptist will be able to throw on the Cougars. To much offense by CUC in the long run.

Lakeland over BU- 31-30, Lakeland has no defense but can run and pass. BU has good special teams and will run the ball at will.

WLC over CUW- 13-10, MY upset special. WLC is playing good. The big question will be if CUW can recover from last week.

Good Luck to everyone's team this week. Safe Play and Safe travels by all.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 25, 2008, 03:38:53 PM
It is unfortunate to see what is happening around CUW.  I have only seen a limitied number of games and it seems they cannot get over the injury bug and their youth.  I have not heard many good things at all about the new batch of players that have come in.  For some reason there is a real sense of entitlement going on, and that is really disappointing.  It's something usually trumped by a strong group of upperclassmen, I am just affraid it is too late for them to step up.  There has been a strong football culture at CUW for a while now and it would be a shame to see it fizzle out.  LETS GO FALCONS!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 25, 2008, 04:23:07 PM
Any updates?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ausid on October 25, 2008, 04:29:03 PM
Aurora defeats Rockford 28-12, AU scored 21 unanswered to finish the contest.  I was not at the game just getting reports from the contest.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 27, 2008, 10:35:21 AM
Congrats to M. Baptist on playing CUC a great game. Nice to see your offense explode for 21 points. Keep up the good work. Despite having a small roster you guys are playing your hearts out. 

Looks like AU is rolling and awaiting the playoffs. IMHO, they have it wrapped up. They have so much balance between their Offense, Defense and Special Teams. They are a Senior dominated team with the best QB in the league. Their remaining 3 games should be business as usual for the Spartans.

Sounds like the CUW and WLC game was a good one Saturday. Did anyone see the game? What happened?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 27, 2008, 02:05:11 PM
Old 40-

Actually, AU probably won't make the playoffs this year.  For a team from the NAC to make the playoffs this year, didn't we agree that they would have to go undefeated?

Would AU even have a chance for an at large bid with 1 loss?

Although, I guess you could call it a "quality loss" against a team like IL Wesleyan.

So do they have a shot?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 27, 2008, 02:39:23 PM
baseman201;

The NAC get an auto bid this year. The league winner goes. I don't know how the NAC got the auto bid but it does have one.

Your Cougars are playing pretty good ball this year. IMO, they will knock someone else off this year. The stats on the Lakeland game was very impressive. Good luck the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on October 27, 2008, 03:14:13 PM
The conference was able to get it because it has already been a conference for two years. The rule never said that you have to sponsor the sport two years, just to be a conference for two years. The conference got their paperwork in and the NCAA gave them a Pool A bid.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 27, 2008, 10:11:27 PM
Well then, I did not know that.

AU is in the drivers seat for the playoffs then, definately the favorite at this point.

Yeah, CUC isn't playing bad, I was especially impressed with the Lakeland win.  But with the close win over Maranatha they have some work to do.  I can see a 4 win season though, hey baby steps.....2 wins in 2006, 3 wins in 2007, 4 wins in 2008 (hopefully), keeps going up, good sign. 

They definately have a shot at possibly winning 2 more games though, CUW and BU.  AU seems too good right now.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: falcons#1 on October 28, 2008, 10:00:18 PM
Falcsfb why do u feel the concordia wisconsin program has a sense of entitlement?  All i have seen is a group of players who were coached by another coach for a couple years , who was a great coach, that have had to adjust to a new headman. The freshman class of course is going to take a shot when they were recruited by another coach and then they find out half way through the summer that they have differant coach that would always send your new recruits running.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 29, 2008, 12:56:30 PM
WLCALUM83's picks for 11/01/08 games:

Lakeland at Maranatha:   Lakeland

Concordia-Chicago at Concordia-WI:  CUW (although this could be a tight one if the Falcons aren't careful).

Rockford at Benedictine:  Benedictine (IL Eagle special teams kick-off return team is dangerous--this is another one that could go either way.)

WLC at Aurora:  Aurora--even more so given the Warriors knocked off the Spartans last year, so they'll want big time revenge.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on October 29, 2008, 01:38:56 PM
The NAC definitely gets an automatic bid for the conference winner.  It had something to do with them appealing the NCAA because the conference has been in existence for two years now and it is pretty much the same as the IBFC.  Plus it is an NCAA rule that any conference with 7 teams gets an auto bid
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 29, 2008, 05:03:25 PM
Guesses for this week;

CUC at CUW- CUW 38-31, Both teams score alot of points.

LC at MBC- LC38-21, LC has alot of passing "O". MBC can score via the air as they did last week.

WLC at AU- AU21-20, Close game if AU is not ready. Talent wise WLC has some good players but not as many as AU. AU gets a step closer to the playoffs.

Rockford at BU- Rockford will control the ball and win 24-10


Good Luck to everyones team. Safe travels.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on October 31, 2008, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: sotha sil on October 22, 2008, 10:10:29 PM
Being honest, i am not sure cuw will come back from this loss.  After seeing the games and hearing what i have about the new head coach, I do not believe in these falcons.  The players seem uninspired and/or unwilling to listen to the new coach.   I know alumni have lost the interest they used to have and its kinda sad.  We used to love watching the young talent come in and progress.  We loved meeting new coaches and being involved in alumni events.  Now, the players don't respect what has been done, new coaches ignore/brush off alumni that come in and many of the alumni events have been cancled.  School pride for the football team also looks to be at a low.  It's a sad time at C,U.....doubleU

sadly i must concur...they are still my team but IMO something needs to change -- and also IMO Coach Etter has not had the time yet -- read into that what you will
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CU Alum on October 31, 2008, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: falcons#1 on October 28, 2008, 10:00:18 PM
Falcsfb why do u feel the concordia wisconsin program has a sense of entitlement?  All i have seen is a group of players who were coached by another coach for a couple years , who was a great coach, that have had to adjust to a new headman. The freshman class of course is going to take a shot when they were recruited by another coach and then they find out half way through the summer that they have differant coach that would always send your new recruits running.

they'll get better to be sure how long though is IMO dependant upon Coach Etter molding the team into his personality (and not that of any other coach or support staff) -- if he can do that I believe we will see exponential improvement -- Coach Etter was a good choice -- earlier in the year I complained about the HFc search -- I still disagree from the way it went down (I got my info from the president of the U as to the procedure followed)  but we got a good one -- I still disagree about the offensive schemes -- that is what I think needs to be changed

just my opinion  -- but I know it is held by all the former falcons I stay in touch with

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on November 01, 2008, 05:40:38 PM
Final in Aurora.  AU 51 WLC 6.  The Spartans dominated on both sides of the ball.  Their defense had 9 turnovers which included 7 interceptions and 2 forced fumble recoveries.  They looked absolutely unstoppable today.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 01, 2008, 07:24:06 PM
Other NAthCon football finals:

Concordia-WI 46, Concordia-Chicago 13

Benedictine 20, Rockford 14

Lakeland 29, Maranatha 14
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 03, 2008, 01:42:06 PM
Saw the AU game this weekend and was impressed with all aspects of their team. Looks to have the best "D" hands down in the NAC. Their Offense can score at will. IMHO, they should walk through the next two games. The big questions is who they will play in the playoffs. They most likely will be the 8 seed and might have to face Mount Union or NCC, depending if they move one of those teams out of the North region. Either of those teams would be a huge obstacle to overcome. Speed would be a factor in a game with either of those teams who have great team speed and great skill positions. Good Luck to AU on their finish, chamionship.

Anyone have any thoughts on AU and the playoffs?

MBBC puts 14 on Lakeland. Good to see them score 2 or more TD's in the last 2 weeks. Based on some ofthe articles written, their players play hard and with great emotion. They never quit.

Good Luck to everyones team this week. Picks coming later.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ftballfan09 on November 03, 2008, 02:52:27 PM
WOW lots of action! and new names! I guess that I was wrong before AU looks to be top dog this year. I saw some very uncalled for comments toward someones former team. I may be off base because I do not know, but that could be the issue at CUC. I saw they upset Lakeland but got killed by CUW. What is going on there? I also don't here much from the Benne, do they still have a team? anyway good luck to all as you hit the home stretch of your season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 03, 2008, 08:57:14 PM
AU and the playoffs:

Its not a done deal yet, they cant fall asleep.  Aurora must win out.  As far as Mount Union. I think they are out pf the picture for a first round apponent for AU just based on distance alone. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 03, 2008, 09:23:04 PM
Old 40 my reasoning for thinking AU will not draw Mount Union distance is 428 miles

Frequently Asked Question 27. How are the playoffs structured?
Posted On
Sep 29, 2005 at 11:00 AM  Since 2005: There are four brackets of eight teams apiece. The brackets are set by the NCAA committee, grouping eight teams together in a roughly geographic manner.
The NCAA reserves the right to seed the bracket in the interest of avoiding having to pay for extra airplane flights in the first round. If two schools are within 500 miles' driving distance, then the road team travels by bus. If the distance is longer than 500 miles then the NCAA must fly one team to play the other.

Generally speaking, the No. 1 seed plays the No. 8 seed, the No. 2 seed plays the No. 7 seed, No. 3 plays No. 6 and No. 4 plays No. 5. But the committee also reserves the right to juggle first-round pairings to satisfy their travel requirements as well as keep conference foes from facing each other in the first round.

In general, the higher seed hosts through to the national semifinals. If two equal seeds from different brackets meet in the national semifinals, the NCAA will determine who hosts. That is announced when the brackets are released

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 03, 2008, 10:13:44 PM
I've enjoyed the banter on this board for the past few weeks and thought I'd throw in my two cents.

I certainly enjoy the reports of "eye witnesses" who saw games and could give a little analysis - something beyond the things you get on the schools' websites. More would be appreciated!

What are thoughts of the differences in the various conferences in the Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan region and the NAthCon? I've seen a few MIAA teams this year, a CCIW team,  and CUC once (and against a MIAA team at that - ouch!). What makes these "established" conferences so strong? Coaches who have been at a school for a long time? Established program?Administration (and dollars) commited to a sports program? Overall campus quality? Let's hear it.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on November 03, 2008, 11:49:31 PM
Technically, AU does not have to win out.  If AU beats CUC and CUW beats Lakeland this

Saturday then AU will clinch the NAC championship.  Lakeland will have two conference losses and CUW

will have one and since AU beat CUW earlier this season AU has the tie breaker with CUW.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NuTS on November 04, 2008, 09:52:33 AM
Regarding the playoffs, IMHO:

The NCAA does not care who wins a first round game.  They do not care who advances week after week.  They don't care who the semifinalists are.  They don't even care who gets second.  Their goal (purpose) is to crown a champion in DIII.  The fans care, the players care, the schools and coaching staffs certainly care, but the NCAA (with the exception of keeping travel expenses down), does not care!

That being said, parings are (with few execptions) designed to get the four best teams (by region) separated in the brackets.  Thus any qualifier from the NAC in any year will not get a favorable first round draw and it will be very hard to break that cycle.

I see it as a "rich get richer" scenario.  To get ranking consideration you have to win games against opponents outside of your conference during the season and in the playoffs.  So, any team from the NAC (or looking back to the IBFC for that matter) with no wins in the post season will not get any respect from the ranking committee.  This leads to a first round draw against one of, if not the best, team in the region.  It will take an upset by a NAC team to get any consideration for the next year and more likely several years of upsets before they get any ranking consideration.

Many would argue this is perfectly fair and logical and I, for the most part, agree. You may not like it but it does help to explain why the rich get richer.  By winning playoff games you not only get a more favorable consideration next year you also draw positive attention to your program and thus attract more quality recruits, more college and community support, etc.  And the beat goes on. . .
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 04, 2008, 10:25:53 AM
muzzman;

Good points on Mt. Union. but in 2004 the NCAA sent AU to Wooster the 2 seed and Wooster is in that neck of the woods. If they move Mount to the East like last year then AU goes to NCC, IMHO. It will be a big uphill battle either way.

footballguy1;
You are right on that scenerio. CUW will most likely hammer Lakeland giving AU the title.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on November 04, 2008, 10:54:17 AM
I'll bet AU gets North Central in the first round.  Based on the regional rankings, I believe Mt. Union will head to the east once again, leaving NC the top seed in the Midwest and your classic #1 v #8.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 04, 2008, 11:01:53 AM
RFMicigan;

Great question and obsevations. IMHO, the NAC is trying to make their conference (football wise) better than the IBFC. Many of the teams are scheduling teams that are playoff teams which means if they can win they improve the status of the league and their program. So far it has not worked but will happen in the future. Playing the better schools is still better than playing the Blackburn's, Principia's of the world (No disrespect intended).

As far as comparing the leagues, it is hard at this time to make a case for the NAC to be in the same class as the MIAA and CCIW. This year the NAC teams failed to beat teams from those leagues. IMO, the big diffenerce in the CCIW and the NAC is far apart. The CCIW schools have more money to spend on their athletic programs. Their campuses are more like a big school atmosphere (especially in football). If you have been to a NCC, Carthage or Wheaton game you will see the difference (tailgating, fireworks, halftime shows and a full house).

The NAC schools are trying. They have made improvements in facitities at most schools except MBBC, Rockford and Lakeland. It boils down to a dogfight for the better athletes. The CCIW gets their pick as does the MIAA in their areas. The NAC is making inroads but face a huge uphill battle. IMHO, it boils down to $. The richer more endowed schools have the biggest advantages over the others. I don't think the NAC schools are as endowed as much as the MIAA and certainly not as much as the CCIW. I would like to see one or more of the NAC schools have their administration step up in acquiring $ for endowment and then spend some of it on Athletics and the assets needed to attract better athletes..

One small note. I know most of the MIAA schools playe 6-9 JV games and many of the CCIW schools play the same amount. I think some of the NAC schools play none and some play 2-4 games, but I bet most would like to play a few more.

Enough of the ramblings but it boils down to the more endowed schools can have better financial packages for their students, have a campus that has great student draws (life fitness centers, student centers), larger recruiting/admissions budgets and larger Athletic budgets. These are my ramblings about this subject.

I would be interested in everyones thoughts.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: iitwi88 on November 04, 2008, 01:25:29 PM
Quote from: WhatDoIKnow on November 04, 2008, 10:54:17 AM
I'll bet AU gets North Central in the first round.  Based on the regional rankings, I believe Mt. Union will head to the east once again, leaving NC the top seed in the Midwest and your classic #1 v #8.
it doesnt matter who they get they are going to get killed the first game of playoffs anyway
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NuTS on November 04, 2008, 02:58:09 PM
Very good points Old 40:

The WIAC is another example.  I was told by a UWW coach that since they cannot offer scholarships to athletes they spend their money on the very best facilities, equipment, uniforms, etc. as a means of attracting top prospects.

I would add that $ is very important but not enough.  Your administration has to make the building of athletic programs, Football in particular, a priority.  I don't feel there are many, if in fact any, schools in the conference with that attitude. :(

The other factor is time.  These changes don't happen overnight.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 04, 2008, 06:51:26 PM
Quoteit doesnt matter who they get they are going to get killed the first game of playoffs anyway

iitwi88-

Yeah, I am an NAC supporter but unfortunately I agree with you.  Although back in 04 AU went to Wooster and gave them a run for their money.  Even going against Tony Sutton.....although he did rush for 209 yards and 5 TDs....but that's beside the point.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on November 04, 2008, 06:58:24 PM
Quote from: iitwi88 on November 04, 2008, 01:25:29 PM
Quote from: WhatDoIKnow on November 04, 2008, 10:54:17 AM
I'll bet AU gets North Central in the first round.  Based on the regional rankings, I believe Mt. Union will head to the east once again, leaving NC the top seed in the Midwest and your classic #1 v #8.
it doesnt matter who they get they are going to get killed the first game of playoffs anyway


You are right, who cares who AU plays in the playoffs.  They would obviously have a better chance then CUW would considering AU beat them and of course AU is the better team.  Maybe if you made a few more plays at LB for CUW vs AU  they would have had a chance at beating them this year and CUW would be going to the playoffs.  Did you know CUW gave up 340 total yards that game including 150 to their running back?  And of course who could forget about AU's #3 nationally ranked defense who allowed a minuscule 91 rushing yards to the supposed mighty rushing attack of CUW.  Have fun not being in the playoffs and I'm sure that NAC championship trophy will look great in AU's trophy case!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 04, 2008, 07:02:32 PM
It would sure be nice for a program from the NAC step up and get a win in the playoffs, but like iitwi88 says I will be an uphill battle. A number 1 going agianst a number 8 unless someone from the NAC (AU) draws better than an 8 seed, but not likely
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on November 04, 2008, 07:06:04 PM
iitwi88,

I wouldn't say it doesn't matter who they get.  If they get NC, it could get ugly; but otherwise depending on their draw, it could be closer game than you expect.  Only time will tell.

Nuts and Old 40,

I think it is fair to say the NAC schools are 10 years behind the curve with athletic facilities, programs, etc. from a football standpoint.  It is unfair to compare the NAC schools to the WIAC schools from a facility standpoint.  I think those NAC schools which get creative with their costs, financial aid, etc. given the economy over the next few years could close the gap from an athlete standpoint, but still need to generate money to develop better facilities.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ftballfan09 on November 04, 2008, 11:18:53 PM
While I think that the conference has no shot at wining a playoff game, I would like to know how the teams are so far behind the times. Who are you and why should anyone believe what you are saying? I know that the illi-badger conference had trouble and this new one will probably not win this season, but who are you to say that the teams are 10 yrs behind? Personally I think that they have things to work on but you are full of **** by saying they are 10 years behind.

And to NONEED.... you are something to call out your former school like that if I was from your school I would be pissed and I think that is ****ty to bag on your former school like that. Where is your loyalty?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 04, 2008, 11:48:43 PM
WhatdoIknow-

Ehhhh, I am not sure if I agree on the 10 years behind on facilities statement.  I mean, CUC had the best field for awhile, then Benedictine built what is probably the nicest stadium in the region, then CUW followed suit and has a VERY nice field.

Who really knows why the IBC/NAC can't bring in players who can contend with some of the better teams in the nation.  Maybe the coaches going about recruiting the wrong way?  Getting their players from all the wrong places?

Who really knows.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 05, 2008, 01:02:30 PM
Look at the larger schools (particularly in Chicago) the NAthCon schools are battling with for players, too. (D1 Illinois, Northwestern, NAIA Trinity Int'l, et al). Being a first-year football conference, I agree it'll be a long uphill climb. Just my .02.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WhatDoIKnow on November 05, 2008, 01:06:53 PM
Gentlemen, Gentlemen...

I am glad I got a few of you stirred up for certainly all the wrong reasons.  But, it opens up some good discussion. 

ftballfan09 - It doesn't matter really who I am and you don't have to believe me.  My comments below are simply my opinion.  You are correct the IBFC had its trouble (Greenville, Mac, Eureka, CUC, Benedictine).  The NAC is really no different (Rockford, Maratha, etc.).  Until each one of NAC institutions makes football a priority, they will remain behind the curve of conferences like the CCIW, OAC, NCAC, MIAA and IIAC.

I would like you to expand on your comment "things to work on" and let me know how long each of things would take to complete.  I can tell you I have told my alma mater these things and things have certainly changed around D3 football since I played.  My loyalty is with the NAC, but changes need to be made.


baseman201 - Facilities is more than a football field.  CUC maybe won an average of 1 game a year with their new field.  Granite, most schools in the NAC have a quality football field/stadium.  But, what school doesn't these days.  Those schools in the conferences I noted above fill their stadiums on Saturdays for 3-5,00 people.  The NAC does not.  Do any of the NAC schools have new indoor facilities, weight rooms, etc..  If they possess these items, do they have a stable coaching staff, quality jv program, financial aid, etc..  Bottom line, the NAC in most institutions does not provide a big time atmosphere to attract the top players or put themselves in a position to attract these players.

I could certainly go on, but I hope you understand the point I am trying to make.  I think it is ironic my comments are taken the way they are when both of you stated the conference has no shot at winning a playoff game.  If you have no shot at winning a playoff game, win a conference/national title, why even participate for any of the NAC schools.  If your response is, "I love playing the game", then once again my point exactly.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: New Tradition on November 05, 2008, 01:10:51 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 04, 2008, 11:48:43 PM
I mean, CUC had the best field for awhile, then Benedictine built what is probably the nicest stadium in the region, then CUW followed suit and has a VERY nice field.

Benedictine's stadium is nice, but nicest in the region?  I'm not so sure.  Illinois Wesleyan has gorgeous facilities (not only the football stadium, but I think that's the most beautiful D3 campus I've ever seen), and my alma mater, North Central, is a far sight nicer than Benedictine's, all bias aside, IMHO.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 05, 2008, 06:44:02 PM
New Tradition-

Yeah.....IL WES has a pretty nice stadium, but I don't know, BEN is pretty close man.......

But yeah, facilities definately help in the recruiting process.  Although, when a recruit is going to a game and visiting a school, it helps that there are 5,000 people in the stands as well.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 06, 2008, 12:01:07 AM
The NAC made it to 300 pages.

Very Good discussions an many valid points. It is good to hear everyones perspective on the key issues with the NAC.

My Guesses for this week;

MBBC at Rockford- I think it will be close. Rockford wins 24-21, Home field advantage.

AU at CUC- AU wins big 48-21. CUC scores some through the air. An AU win and a CUW win clinches the title and the AQ for AU.

CUW at Lakeland- The "Cheese Bowl" CUW has won 6 of the last 7. No different this year CUW 20-12.

BU at WLC- Good game but WLC has a decent Defense and wins 21-7.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2008, 02:14:48 PM
WLCALUM83's picks for this weekend:

Rockford over Maranatha

Aurora over Concordia-Chicago

Concordia-WI over Lakeland

Benedictine over WLC  (Warriors turnover prone of late again, IL Eagle special teams can be dangerous.)


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 07, 2008, 08:11:46 PM
That's why I always love a good underdog story.....Everyone I expect to see a good battle between them and hope to see AU come out on top.....Remember ANY GIVEN DAY


Pics for this week:

AU trounces CUC

CUW trounces Lakeland

RC over Maranatha

BU over WLC

AU clinches after a season of domination
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 08, 2008, 06:16:36 PM
What happened to Concordia Wisconsin? Did they even show up?, >:(
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 08, 2008, 07:10:39 PM
What was the score????    AU still wins the championship though IMHO
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 08, 2008, 07:42:01 PM
Last I heard 34-7 Lakeland
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 08, 2008, 07:47:16 PM
Final 37-7 Lakeland
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 08, 2008, 08:18:10 PM
Congrats to BU on a win over WLC. They are finishing strong.

How does a team who lost to CUC and struggled with MBBC destroy CUW? Congrats to Lakeland for the big win. They face the top Offense, Defense and special teams team in the league next week. Too much AU. Coach Duncan has them where they can't lose. They are walking over everyone. From what I saw today at CUC they have way to much offense for anyone in the NAC, IMHO. Their defense held the Cougars to one score and when Lakeland played them their defense gave up 35 points. Looks like Lakeland may have played their best game. Do they have anything else left. If I was a betting man I would say AU by 17-21 points next week.

Congrats to AU for putting up the huge numbers on CUC. Sparty is a scoring machine.

Did anyone catch the Rockford MBBC score? Did anyone see the CUW game? What happened in the game?

Well it's one week left to the Forst NAC Champion. AU on a roll and at home is the big favorite.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 08, 2008, 08:27:34 PM
Lakeland's defense completely dominated Concordia WI today - only 25 yards rushing yards from the NAC's top rushing team coming into this week. This isn't close to the same defense that stumbled to a loss at CUC. Next weekend's game at Aurora should be a good one. Aurora will have to win through the air. It will come down to the team that makes the fewest mistakes.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 08, 2008, 08:51:32 PM
fishguy;

To hold CUW to 25 yards rushing is a big accomplishment, IMHO. Sound like next week should be a good one. You are right mistakes/turnovers will be a big factor as will special teams. Good Luck to your fish team next week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 09, 2008, 10:33:46 AM
Benedictine came back from 10 points down to get the win yesterday. (Boy, those interceptions keep killing WLC!) >:(
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 11, 2008, 09:32:17 PM
Nice blurb for AU and Lakeland in around the region section, Midwest, regarding this Saturdays game for the first NAC championship.

Some facts on AU and LC. Accoring to the NAC web site AU leads most of the stat catergories based on conference stats. Biggest edge seems to be points scored and rushing offense. AU is certaintly the statistical leader in most offensive catergories and defensive catergories. AU has the top Offense and the top Defense, a very long day for LC.

Since the 1999 season, AU is 5-4 against LC. Under the Coach Scott era there were some blowouts.

AU's non conference foes W/L record to date is 12-17.
LC's non conference foes W/L record to date is 16-11.

This game should be a good one. There is alot at stake and the team with the fewest mistakes will win. AU leads the nation in turnover margin. The NAC site has LC throwing 20+ picks. Looks like the AU secondary will be busy picking balls out of the sky.

I hope the weather will be good but early reports are for snow/sleet/rain mid 30's.

Good Luck to everyone's team this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 12, 2008, 07:12:54 PM
Not too many teams have had success running the ball, and the weather will be a factor if LC falls behind they may be forced to go to the air.  They do lead the NAC in passing, but it will be a difficult day with the weather and facing the top team in take aways

AU 31 LC 13
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 12, 2008, 07:37:23 PM
Old 40

AU now ranked #10 in the Northern Regio. It is good to see AU get some recognition even the conferance coaches did not think they would do as well as they have.  The faithful knew better!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 12, 2008, 10:29:19 PM
muzzman;
Thanks for the heads up on the AU region ranking. Congrats to AU. Maybe they will get a playoff win (will be tough) and help get some recognition to the NAC.

My Guesses for the last week of the season for conference games. Haven't done to well. Maybe at best 50%. Teams pretty even this year.

RC at CUW- CUW big 38-7. The Falcons rebound and finish at 5-5.

WLC at MBBC- WLC in a close game 24-21. They have not been playing well. MBBC scores but runs out of gas late. MBBC has done very well this year despite the low numbers.

CUC at BU- BU gets this one 28-14. BU wins their last 3 games. Building for next year. CUC has no defense. CUC has faded since they beat LC.

LC at AU- " The big one" Blow out central. AU 28-LC 0. AU Offense (Rush and Pass, leading NAC rusher and QB, best in the league, does it all) to much for the LC defense to handle. AU defense tops in the NAC, shuts down the rush and pass. AU national leader in turnover margin. LC is alright but not in the same class as AU ( I have not seen them play but their stats and past games show they are up and down). AU wins the AQ, the first playoff appearance since the 2004 team, who almost pulled off the upset of highly favored Wooster.Saturday's weather is suppose to be lousy. Cold with rain, sleet and snow. Good Luck to both teams.

Good luck to everyones team this week.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2008, 11:25:52 AM
WLCALUM83's picks:

Concordia-WI over Rockford

WLC over Maranatha

Aurora over Lakeland

Benedictine over Concordia-Chicago

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 13, 2008, 07:21:40 PM
Just read the Daily Dose on Pat's Playoff projections. IMHO, it was  apretty good look at what the brakets look like.

I would think moving MUC east as the #1 and NCC the #1 in the North. It would give us IMHO the top 4 teams as #1. No Offense to Cortland State.

Pat's scenario has AU going to Wabash an interesting match up. This would be a very good game. I hope it works out like this.

Anyone else have any comments?

Pat, you realize you are in a no win situation with the pick. Some will question you and others will see your genius, as I do.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 13, 2008, 07:53:39 PM
Old 40
It really depends what happens this weekend.   # 1, 2 and 3 of the top 25 are as of now are also in the top 3 in the North region, but as D3 has the field of 32 I like the possibliltuy of AU at a #7 SEED, it will be interesting AU will need a covincing win over Lakeland.

;D PS if you plan to be at the game your are welcome to join us for brunch. Mr Budz and I extend our invitation.  Look for the White Trailer at the south end
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 13, 2008, 08:45:06 PM
muzzman;

Thanks for the invite. I will try to get there early.

I think more than one North team gets moved. The region is very stacked. The WIAC will be interesting if one of their teams lose. I think there will be some upsets Saturday.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 13, 2008, 08:47:01 PM
Pat, it looks like my post counter is not working. I am stuck on 181 on each post for this page. Did I break something from my spelling?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 13, 2008, 08:55:46 PM
Old 40

See you then, game tiem is noon we will arrive 9:30 0r so
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 15, 2008, 03:41:10 PM
24-6 Aurora official NAC Champs 7-0 in Conf. 9-1 Overall,  AU was very dominant
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 15, 2008, 03:42:30 PM
Congrats to the Spartans!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 15, 2008, 03:47:38 PM
7:48 left in 3rd  Benedictine 24, Concordia-Chicago 21.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on November 15, 2008, 04:14:29 PM
AU dominates LC for 4 quarters and wins the NAC Championship
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 15, 2008, 05:38:03 PM
Without doubt AU brings home the inaugural  NAC Football conf title, Way to go boys
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 15, 2008, 06:08:02 PM
Congrats to AU for their win.

I only got to see the 2nd half but was impressed by the AU QB and their "D". The playoof draw will probably be NCC. Good Luck and let's get the NAC a win.

LC had a few decent players but could not throw or run the ball. The program had them starting 5 Freshman. Wow.

A "Special Thanks" to all NAC Seniors this year. It was good watching some of you play. Have a Great productive life in the world and use your football experience to make all of you successful citizens and Good family men. A job well done by all the Seniors.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 15, 2008, 07:02:32 PM
Other Finals:

Concordia-WI 44, Rockford 24

Benedictine 51, Concordia-Chicago 28

WLC 35, Maranatha 20  :) ;) :D 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: LCLB52 on November 15, 2008, 08:35:46 PM
Well hello everyone. I figure now that my career at Lakeland is done it is appropriate to join these forums. I have sat back the last few years and often times laughed at posts and others time I would use them as motivation. As you can tell, I was #52 on the field and I played linebacker. I was also a captain this year and always tried to be a leader on our team. But something this year really upset me as a player. No it was not any of the things you said about us as a team, or us losing to CUC, or us facing anyone after CUC ripping on us. It was when someone took a shot at our leader, our head coach Kevin Doherty. Let me tell all of you he had all of our respect and he did yell but which coach doesn't yell at players? You go to Pop-Warner games and you hear people tearing down little kids. We are in College and yes occasionally a coach will get upset. But let me say that whoever said your son is a senior on the team and can't wait to be done, I had a very hard time figuring out who it may have been and really questioned the source. But once it was said a lot of you regular posters went and started ripping him and this staff to shreads. Overall that is what gets me. This forum is all hear say and based off of scores and nothing else. Believe me, the potential to have good conversations is here. But before comments are made, investigate and see what the team brings to the table. For example, this year when we played Maranatha it was close and we were losing until the fourth quarter. However, the only touchdown our Defense gave up was a one yard touchdown which was preceded by me snapping the ball over our punters head and them recovering on the one. So thats on me not our defense. But realize, that game our defense surrendered 96 total yards. Anyways, I guess as my way of being done I figured I would get on the soap box and talk a lil bit. I really look forward to talking with all of you in the near future!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 15, 2008, 08:47:56 PM
Way to "man up"!  +1 and glad to have you!

:) 

Welcome to the boards!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 15, 2008, 09:31:23 PM
LCLB52;

I only got to see the 2nd half today but you are a very good LB. The other guy #40 was also very good. Looks like your team will come back in the future with all the underclassmen you have starting on both sides of the ball. Glad to have you on board.

Your remarks about your head coach sounded very sincere. I don't think many people pay attention to that negative type of stuff, it's easy to point fingers and bad mouth especially when you are not close to the program or have a ax to grind. Those things are usually said by players who quit or disgrunted parents who don't get it. We usaually ignore and move on. Last year their were several people, my guess players who quit, who were on the BU coach. I would think these coaches know that what they are doing is the right thing to do. Pay no attention to the negative morons who come on here.

My son does not play for either team, AU or LC, but I wanted to see the 2 best teams in the league, only wish I was not late. Keep your head up and be proud of your college accomplishments. Good Luck with your life.

Let's hope that AU can get a win next week. I know it will be a very big hill to climb.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ncc58 on November 15, 2008, 09:38:18 PM
LCLB52,

When many of us former players see a coach on the sideline ranting and raving, we smile and maybe even laugh a little. Those are the coaches that we love the most. They show passion and enthusiasm which is what the game is about.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 15, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
muzzman;

Sorry I was unable to get by your tailgate but was very late to the game. Parent duties! Your team looked good from what I saw in the 2nd half. Good Luck next week no matter what the draw. I hope I camn make it to the game if it is local. Have a Great off season and I hope you stay on the board.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 15, 2008, 10:14:41 PM
Quote from: FatalImpact link=topic=3544.msg98154business543 date=1226788683
Without doubt AU brings home the inaugural  NAC Football conf title, Way to go boys

Way to go Blue.  Au Proved today
that they were the team to beat  in the Northern Athletics Conferance.  Hats off to Coach K for a great recruiting class, Coach Duncan, Coach Cutty, the rest of the staff for putting it all togehter, and the players for never quiting.  For some this is their last game for others this will define their seanon and career for others unfinished business and yet another chance. It doesn't matter that you win or loose you always have to put your uniform on......Represent it well, you are an ambassador for your University and your community.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on November 16, 2008, 10:40:49 AM
D3football.com has projected AU as a 7 seed in the North Bracket playing Trine in the first round....it also has Mount Union moved to the East
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on November 16, 2008, 03:39:41 PM
Any Aurora folks know if Budzinski will play in the first round of the playoffs?

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 16, 2008, 07:27:27 PM
 ??? Budz still questionable
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old man 89 on November 16, 2008, 09:33:14 PM
Wow, I got say that MC fans have already got themself in the 2nd round. I sure hope AU can play their game and make them sorry that they thought that AU was such an easy mark.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MWCfan787 on November 16, 2008, 10:43:52 PM
Take it how you want to, but I think Monmouth fans are happy to play AU instead of a WIAC team or St. Johns.  Of the teams they could've played it's a good draw, but I think AU should be happy with their draw as well considering the teams they could've played as an 8 seed
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 16, 2008, 10:51:51 PM
Quote from: old man 89 on November 16, 2008, 09:33:14 PM
Wow, I got say that MC fans have already got themself in the 2nd round. I sure hope AU can play their game and make them sorry that they thought that AU was such an easy mark.
Quote from: MWCfan787 on November 16, 2008, 10:43:52 PM
Take it how you want to, but I think Monmouth fans are happy to play AU instead of a WIAC team or St. Johns.  Of the teams they could've played it's a good draw, but I think AU should be happy with their draw as well considering the teams they could've played as an 8 seed

I'd say you're both right.  If the NCAA weren't so cheap, AU would be flying to Willamette, and Monmouth would be hosting St. John's.  I'd say you BOTH lucked out! ;D

Good luck, and may the better team win (and I say this as a fan of the ONLY team to beat either one of you ;)).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 17, 2008, 11:40:51 AM
If Aurora's defense can create turnovers like it has in the last several games, look out!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 17, 2008, 12:22:45 PM
AU got a great draw but it will not be easy. MC has a Great QB with big fast receivers and a good running game. I saw them play agaist St. Norberts and they are suspect to the pass. It will be a good game. I hope the weather cooperates.

Good Luck AU, win the first for the NAC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MWCfan787 on November 17, 2008, 12:44:38 PM
I don't know how you say they are suspect to the pass based on their game against St. Norbert.  Berger and Sims ran pretty freely and Monmouth's pass efficiency defense was top 10 in the nation I believe and first in their conference.  If anything, a really good run game or a well run option frustrates that defense, (like Ripon their closest game) running the ball and controlling the ball keeps it out of the hands of their explosive quick-strike offense.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 17, 2008, 01:37:31 PM
MWCfan787

The perspective was mine after seeing MC and how AU might attack their secondary with their style of pass offense especially when the QB breaks the perimeter. I understand that Norbs was able to run but they are a bit faster than AU. The AU QB is quite athletic and will pressure the secondary when he rolls out or is flushed from the pocket.

I think it will be a close game and whoever stops/contanins the other QB will win, IMHO.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on November 17, 2008, 02:33:23 PM
Can any AU or NAC fans tell us what they run on O and D...looking for base formations (spread, I, 4-3, 3-4, etc.), not trade secrets  ;D

They seem to be very balanced on offense looking at their stats and spread the ball around in the run and pass game. The stats dont indictate a gamebreaker, but that could be due to limited time in blowouts as well.

As an MWC fan, I would love to hear incite on AU and will share my own on MC if asked.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: DC on November 17, 2008, 03:29:41 PM
Hello guys,

I used to play in the NAC well IBFC as a DB and I used to read these things as motivation from anger or support. But the reason I was writing was something that kind of upset me, which was on the MWC boards saying that this conference has no talent.

Now what is talent because in this division you font have to run 4.3 or 4.4 to win games. So when we see the teams record we automatically assume that the team has no athletes or not talented. This division reminds me of Illinois high school football, it doesnt matter the athletes you have but how your program is set up like money, support etc. because I seen teams that have 11 division 1 athletes and get eliminated in the first round of the playoffs. Same with this division of NCAA the stronger the program the stronger the team not athletes or talent so dont give me that crap well unless your MT. Union becuase they definetly have both or the WIAC schools that have 10,000 people attending there. Then I heard something more stupid when someone said ,"well aurora recruited a few from monmouth area so they have some talent", well the best talent in Illinois is from the Chicagoland area anway which area recruits in, which also proves my theory.

My prediction Monmouth wins I say by 21 because of of the strength in schedule, but I really hope that doesnt happen because the NAC needs a win and that trash talk from the other boards fired me up.

ANYTHING can happen in football ANYTHING

thank you ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: scottie on November 17, 2008, 04:27:41 PM
Anyone care to translate?   ???
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MC17 on November 17, 2008, 05:06:43 PM
First of all I would like to state that Monmouth is #2 in the nation in pass efficiency, behind only Cal Lutheran, so better off running the rock. If you think the MWC is weak look how you faired against Lake Forest, not exactly a blowout. Monmouth won this game 56-2 and the starters were out at half. Your conference is pretty weak if you ask me. Our second place team Ripon was 8-2 who lost to Oshkosh by 1 pt.  We atleast have Ripon and St. Norbert, which both of these teams would take Aurora down. You only had one loss and it was a to a down Illinois Wesleyn team who finished 6th in the CCIW.

I saw that your squad has 30 picks on the season, which is impressive but on the other hand you havent faced an Alex Tanney, with the recievers he has to throw to.

I hope that you have a lot of trick plays in your playbook if you want to compete. Sorry Blaise but Im gonna go 37-7. I think Aurora is gonna have trouble scoring on the Monmouth Ball Hawks. 

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MC17 on November 17, 2008, 05:11:15 PM
NEWS BREAK! St. Norbert's two quarterbacks combined for 10 of 30 for 157 yards and zero touchdowns and one int. By my standards thats not very suspect to the pass. You said you were at this game? Where you actually watching or texting a buddy about Benedictine who has a runningback who transfered from Monmouth and never played a down and starts in obviously a better conference then ours.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: DC on November 17, 2008, 05:34:41 PM
First of all MWC will probably lose in the second round anyway no matter what your rank is in the nation. second I didnt say MWC is weak and dont come here and say, "we won by 50"  because its any given day in football, have you ever played football before if so did you even play a down because you sound like just a fan because in football anything can happen when you are not on your toes hell the game of football made upsets. So please stop saying who would do what please. Also I like to add CCIW is a way better conference then yours so I guess Illinois weslyen will be what 2 or 3 in yours then if not 1st??

Alex Tanney is a beast and he is the only reason why your in the playoffs to begin with.

The only running back you all had was daunte danials, now thats an athlete by far im serious I seen that man do the incredible and he runs 4.3 mayb a 4.2
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on November 17, 2008, 06:36:29 PM
Talking about a game in week 1 is silly. Let's see, MC beat Loras 24-17 in week 1. In week 2 Loras barely beat Millikin who got crushed by the team AU lost to 44-0. What the heck does that mean? NOTHING. It really is a stupid arguement. Here are the facts: AU has a tough defense that has stopped both passing and running teams. AU is clearly no Ripon or Carroll that run the ball 75% of the time.

MC. Scottie....don't you have your own conference thread to post on? Coming here and starting stuff is so immature.

AU is the clear underdog here and as all NAC fans know, they wouldn't have it any other way. They were overlooked all season and they contiue to do so. I pray that MC takes AU lightly, they will sure be in for a big surprise. One thing I know, AU is going to come ready to play and it is going to be a good game...no matter what others might think!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on November 17, 2008, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: au dad on November 17, 2008, 06:36:29 PM

MC. Scottie....don't you have your own conference thread to post on? Coming here and starting stuff is so immature.


that is what message boards are for.  For people to chat and discuss and even stir the pot.  For some it is what makes all sports message boards fun. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: scottie on November 17, 2008, 07:26:37 PM
au dad, sir:  I'm not sure what "stuff" I was starting.  I was only hoping to visit your board and learn a little about the Aurora Spartans as well as your conference.  So far, about all I've read are a couple of incoherent and rambling posts by DC, and can only assume that his moniker reflects most of the grades on his transcript.  (I'm sure he couldn't be an Aurora grad....)   ;) 

I'll head back the MWC board, and you are all welcome to visit.  A general grasp of the English language is preferred....you know, spelling and punctuation and "stuff."  Oh, one more thing. The South end zone at Monmouth is awfully close to the MC Library.  If that makes any of your players uncomfortable, they might want to check out their own sometime this week and acclimate. :D

PEACE!


A R E   Y O U   R E A D Y   F O R   S O M E   B A G P I P E S ? ! ? ! ?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 17, 2008, 07:56:24 PM
Here's the thing, if you're not going to talk subjectively about football we don't want you messing up our board, second of all playing a team the first week and playing a team on the back half of the season is that injuries and other things may have happened to the LC squad that gave MC the advantage whose to say if the weeks were swapped that AU would have become the greater victor, as previous posts state there is that sayin ANY GIVEN DAY, MC posters are making motivation easier though by giving bulliten board material, MC, Scottie you both are obviously homers judging by your monikers, so if you will not concede hearing discussions of your teams weakness go trash talk somewhere else..... IMHO AU can and most likely win this game
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MWCfan787 on November 17, 2008, 08:17:15 PM
I love all the hostility.  I'd much rather have this than no chatter whatsoever.  It shows that people from our not-so-nationally respected conferences really care.  Our conference was ranked higher when this website did conference rankings earlier this year but not by enough for it to make a huge difference in this matchup.  I've done some research, Monmouth is the favorite if you have pick one(seeding, stats, record),  both teams seem to play well in the second half, and both are balanced.  I'm sure the Spartans are going to love the underdog role, and MC fans may be a little overconfident...but I know the players on this Monmouth team and the coaching staff very well, and there is no way that they are overlooking Aurora at all.

Looks to make for some good healthy competition!

Overall...c'mon Spartan fans! Can't we kid each other?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 17, 2008, 09:14:24 PM
Quote from: au dad on November 17, 2008, 06:36:29 PM
Talking about a game in week 1 is silly. Let's see, MC beat Loras 24-17 in week 1. In week 2 Loras barely beat Millikin who got crushed by the team AU lost to 44-0. What the heck does that mean? NOTHING. It really is a stupid arguement. Here are the facts: AU has a tough defense that has stopped both passing and running teams. AU is clearly no Ripon or Carroll that run the ball 75% of the time.

MC. Scottie....don't you have your own conference thread to post on? Coming here and starting stuff is so immature.

AU is the clear underdog here and as all NAC fans know, they wouldn't have it any other way. They were overlooked all season and they contiue to do so. I pray that MC takes AU lightly, they will sure be in for a big surprise. One thing I know, AU is going to come ready to play and it is going to be a good game...no matter what others might think!!!

AU DAD

Well said.  Bring your a game!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Jester76 on November 17, 2008, 09:40:35 PM
So I think that both Aurora and Monmouth fans will find this interesting.  Check this out.

http://www.nationalsportsrankings.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_oneonone (http://www.nationalsportsrankings.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_oneonone)

Lets see what everyone thinks.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Jester76 on November 17, 2008, 09:45:36 PM
First put it on College (Div 2 and 3)
then put in this year.
next put in the two teams (Monmouth Home vs. Aurora Away)
Then click 25 game matchup.
Then hit enter.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 17, 2008, 09:47:28 PM
That why they play the games, and most folks dont like the BCS
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 17, 2008, 11:26:25 PM
Jester-

Haha, that thing is awesome.  Ah man, Mt. Union drubs CUC 67-3...I thought they had a chance!!!

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Jester76 on November 18, 2008, 12:03:20 AM
-Muzzman
You are right that is why they play the game.  But I think that this program can help us to gain a proper frame work, by which we should view our teams.  This program compares everything that you could possible think of like stats, opponents played, and on it goes.  So with that said lets wait and see what happens.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: LCLB52 on November 18, 2008, 12:20:23 AM
Well well well, playoff time here we are! As I just played Aurora there are a few things I have to say. First off, I know very little about Monmouth but it seems they have a pretty good offense based on the scores that our coach read to us each Monday. The game should be interesting...It seems that Monmouth relies on the big play and this week we also relied on the big play and that was taken away from us and we struggled. I am going to say that Aurora succeeds when the defense succeeds. If the defense forces turnovers and gets pressure on the QB the AU offense will score points. If it turns into a run and shoot game then Monmouth will win. From what I saw Saturday and other game films, Aurora's D is pretty stout and should do well this game! I hope for the best for both teams and good luck!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: DC on November 18, 2008, 01:10:53 AM
Scottie-

lol are we serious this is not English class buddy, but a football board something you probably know nothing about but yeah lets argue about typing on the board, lol what a lame.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Scots4 on November 18, 2008, 02:39:33 AM
DC- Chill out man, he was just giving you a hard time. On a serious note, it does hurt to read some of your posts.

This should be a good game. These are two teams that are unfamiliar with each other which will make it an interesting week of practice for both squads. This will be a nice way of showing who prepares better for each other. I noticed a lot of players on the Aurora roster are from the Monmouth area so it will be a nice little homecoming for them. Aurora's strength of schedule is weak, but so is Monmouth's. Both of these teams are drooling at the chance to win a playoff game because of the favorable match-up.

Going off of what little I know about Aurora and what I know about Monmouth, I am going to say the Scots win 35-24. The stadium will be packed and I hope Aurora has a good following to cheer their team on.

Anyone from this board going to be attending this game?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MrG on November 18, 2008, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: Scots4 on November 18, 2008, 02:39:33 AM

Going off of what little I know about Aurora and what I know about Monmouth, I am going to say the Scots win 35-24. The stadium will be packed and I hope Aurora has a good following to cheer their team on.

Anyone from this board going to be attending this game?

AU will have a good sized group in attendance to cheer the Spartans on....  Does MC have a designated tailgating area? 

This should be a great game,  both teams will be prepared and looking to move on.   That being said  AU 17 - MC 13.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on November 18, 2008, 09:43:35 AM
DC,

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 18, 2008, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: fightintitan2006 on November 18, 2008, 09:43:35 AM
DC,

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


fightingtitan - I love it!  Awesome Billy Madison reference! :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 18, 2008, 10:10:00 AM
Really a Billy madison reference???? Anyway I believe that both squads will come and be ready IMHO AU wins 21-14, It should be a really good game
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MWCalum on November 18, 2008, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: FatalImpact on November 17, 2008, 07:56:24 PM
, MC posters are making motivation easier though by giving bulliten board material,

really? a college football team needing motivation for a playoff game? there is no team that should be taking things off this website and putting it on their bulletin board.. if so, WATCH OUT! cause they are nowhere near where they need to be for saturdays game :o

Ive seen Monmouht play against a defense of a very high caliber(Ripon) and they still rolled for 38.. i wish i could tell ya how to stop em but its not easy... ripon shut em out in the 3rd quarter and monmouth came right back and figured out how to counter the look RC was using and scored 14 in like 6 minutes? I also talked to a couple guys who have played against AU this year and said they are pretty darn good too, so i guess we will see.. Monmouth's a pretty hostile place to play for a d3 game and that cannon almost made me crap my pants the first time it went off..

MC 42-AU 28..
good luck to both teams!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Scots4 on November 18, 2008, 12:53:07 PM
Quote from: MrG on November 18, 2008, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: Scots4 on November 18, 2008, 02:39:33 AM

Going off of what little I know about Aurora and what I know about Monmouth, I am going to say the Scots win 35-24. The stadium will be packed and I hope Aurora has a good following to cheer their team on.

Anyone from this board going to be attending this game?

AU will have a good sized group in attendance to cheer the Spartans on....  Does MC have a designated tailgating area? 

This should be a great game,  both teams will be prepared and looking to move on.   That being said  AU 17 - MC 13.


Yes they do, the tailgating area will be on the west-side of the stadium just south of the tennis courts. From the stadium, you will have no problem seeing all the tents and kilts out there. Just listen for the bagpipes  ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2008, 01:13:05 PM
FYI: Monmouth is a "dry" campus, so to speak.  If you must imbibe, I would recommend discretion.  As Scots4 mentioned on the other board, non-clear plastic cups is the way to go. 

Regardless of the game, I hope all Spartan fans enjoy their experience at Monmouth and are treated with Scottish hospitality.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: DC on November 18, 2008, 01:30:56 PM
QuoteWhat you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

This is the last flame post I put up no matter what, everything will be about football. Dumber is not a word, you should have said more dumb or more stupid. How is what I have wrote idiotic? I want to know because I do not usely post on these things just for a learning experience.

P.S. I know I made typos
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Scots4 on November 18, 2008, 01:40:51 PM
Those were not his words, if he would have changed it to be grammatically correct than it would have been different then the movie.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: mc31 on November 18, 2008, 01:46:52 PM
DC it was just a quote from the movie Billy Madison...

I have done some research on Aurora and it seems most of the passes they picked off would have been picked off by most any cornerback in D3... I dont mean to take away from their cornerbacks, as some of them were not so easy interceptions... Alex Tanney is not your average quarterback and he is not going to give out any easy interceptions... If your D can stop him you guys will have a very good chance to win, but nobody has been able to stop him or the Monmouth Offense yet...

Good luck to both teams I predict Monmouth by atleast 2 scores 35-17
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MrG on November 18, 2008, 04:34:10 PM
Congratulations to AU's Coach Duncan on being named 2008 Northern Athletics Conference Coach of the Year.  A well deserved honor.  ;D

Anyone know when the NATHC will announce the All Conference Players?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on November 18, 2008, 05:17:23 PM
DC,

I was just joking buddy...quoting a line from a movie.

Post on my friend.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 18, 2008, 06:23:41 PM
Quote from: DC on November 18, 2008, 01:30:56 PM
QuoteWhat you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

This is the last flame post I put up no matter what, everything will be about football. Dumber is not a word, you should have said more dumb or more stupid. How is what I have wrote idiotic? I want to know because I do not usely post on these things just for a learning experience.

P.S. I know I made typos

You're just diggin' the hole deeper! ;)  Now, you're dissin' my man, Jeff Daniels (at least I think he was the 'Dumber' in Dumb and Dumber). :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 18, 2008, 07:22:52 PM
I've noticed you guys keep citing Ripon, and if you wan to get into talking from what I've read Ripon wasn't as good as you scott fans are making them out to be, I think it'll be a good game and good luck to both sides see my previous post as to my believed outcome
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on November 18, 2008, 09:03:24 PM
Here's an idea...how about all you monmouth jags stop talkin crap (not all of you have been but you know who you are if you have).....WHO CARES WHICH TEAM HAD THE HARDER SCHEDULE OR WHO DID BETTER AGAINST THEIR ONE COMMON OPPONENT OR WHO'S OFFENSE IS RANKED OR WHO'S DEFENSE IS RANKED OR WHO'S QB IS BETTER....the only thing that matters is who brings it every play for four quarters on Saturday.....ANY TEAM CAN BEAT ANY OTHER TEAM ANY SATURDAY....this should be a great game and I can't wait to see it.....

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Scots4 on November 18, 2008, 09:52:32 PM
Aurora fans need to calm down.  WHY SO SERIOUS?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2008, 10:10:57 PM
For real!  You Aurora fans better take your blood pressure meds.   ;)


p.s.  I just saw Erin Andrews on TV.   :-*
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: mc31 on November 18, 2008, 10:24:00 PM
I also give congratulations to the Aurora Coach... That being said I hope you aurora fans dont have a heart attack before saturday getting all worked up about these posts... it would be a shame to miss a good game....
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 18, 2008, 10:56:39 PM
It should be a good game, a lot of just really love our football
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on November 19, 2008, 10:31:18 AM
the lates posts show why the NAC has the lamest of all the threads in D3 Sports. 
If you do not like people talking "crap" do not read this is a message board that is what people do- calling them "jags" shows you are above that
If you do not like someone posting things you do not agree with- tough
If you are tired of someones points... but give nothing in rebuttal - tough
If you think that fans of another team should stay in their area as not to hurt our feelings - tough
If you read these posts and look to help someone with their grammar and spelling - get a life
If you have to constantly use the letters "IMHO"... we know it is your opinion
Lets keep using the phrase on any given Saturday or lines to that point...
People do care about schedule toughness - or think it is
People do care if a QB is better-or think he is
Saying that certain interceptions could have been caught by any DB - wow - do you think that the pressure the D-line could help with that - did your research?  What is research - are you a player or coach who is watching game film or just heard from a friend of a friend.

I say keep talking everyone
Show a little emotion
Show a little pride

The players will decide the outcome - but us elders and non-players need our fun too

Question for the Monmouth fans- will their be caber tossing at halftime?

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fightingscots13 on November 19, 2008, 11:11:45 AM
From Scots 4:  "Yes they do, the tailgating area will be on the west-side of the stadium just south of the tennis courts. From the stadium, you will have no problem seeing all the tents and kilts out there. Just listen for the bagpipes."

I don't think anything's been mentioned about parking yet - it won't be good.  However, there will be a shuttle taking fans to and from the game at Peacock Memorial Athletic Park.  It's on the corner of 11th St. and Rt. 34 - can't miss it.  There's a nice-sized parking lot there where you can tailgate prior to the game.  The only downside I see is that you're not right next to the football field.


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on November 19, 2008, 11:31:45 AM
This is all I have to say about the "stuff" going on here

If you don't like what you read, why are you reading it???

If you take what others say personally, looks like it's your problem. The only problem I see is people who don't know facts saying things that need to be corrected. I saw one, I corrected it, and it was over.

And the reason some find the NAC board "lame" is that the NAC is a new conference that doesn't have the history that the MWC does. Ask anyone at the LC-AU game and they will tell you, give us time, the NAC will be just as nasty as any other conference.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballfan1120 on November 19, 2008, 11:51:21 AM
Quote from: MrG on November 18, 2008, 04:34:10 PM
Congratulations to AU's Coach Duncan on being named 2008 Northern Athletics Conference Coach of the Year.  A well deserved honor.  ;D

Anyone know when the NATHC will announce the All Conference Players?
Also congrats to AU Defensive Coordinator Luke Cutkomp for being a finalist for D3 Coordinator of the year!! to vote go to this link.
http://www.footballscoop.com/?page_id=355
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MWCalum on November 19, 2008, 01:07:32 PM
Quote from: footballguy1 on November 18, 2008, 09:03:24 PM
Here's an idea...how about all you monmouth jags stop talkin crap (not all of you have been but you know who you are if you have).....WHO CARES WHICH TEAM HAD THE HARDER SCHEDULE OR WHO DID BETTER AGAINST THEIR ONE COMMON OPPONENT OR WHO'S OFFENSE IS RANKED OR WHO'S DEFENSE IS RANKED OR WHO'S QB IS BETTER....the only thing that matters is who brings it every play for four quarters on Saturday.....ANY TEAM CAN BEAT ANY OTHER TEAM ANY SATURDAY....this should be a great game and I can't wait to see it.....



does this guy understand what a message board is? haha this is why they were created.. so the old folks like us can discuss who had the harder schedule, whos O or D is better and who's qb is better.. you do know this is what every espn analyst does right? we're just not cool enough to be on tv.. take er easy..

as far as the ripon comment.. ive seen a few of their games and ya, monmouth is better but ripon isnt a team to laugh at.. they took a wiac school literally to the last second where they went for 2 with 30 seconds left for the win and were "controversially" stopped and were up on monmouth with 3 minutes left.. they are a good team worth talking about even though i guess besides strength of schedule talk its pointless?? ::) ... sorry thats my homer rant for the day..
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MWCfan787 on November 19, 2008, 04:22:27 PM
to talk some football.....I've heard about AU's defense, what does their offense like to do? Run first/Pass first/Balanced?  I know their qb seems to be decently mobile, but do they have any gamebreakers/go-to guys on offense in particular?

If you're wondering about Monmouth I'd say this is their style in rather large nutshell: their coach really likes to run the ball, but he knows how good they are at passing and knows the personnel he has so they pass to set up the run, the recieving corp is deep some run good routes some are burners, alot of short and intermediate stuff, they go deep off playaction usually, the qb is a sophomore and conference POY he's a pocket passer that loves to sling it (41 tds to like 7 ints i think), their running game consists of zone blocking and powers here and there, the have the same back for the most part he's a downhill type but he usually comes out on 3rd down for a back that can pass block and catch the ball better, and they run no-huddle.
the defense is aggressive and loves to take risks, lot of blitzing, the d-line is very athletic for how big they are, the linebackers love the big hit but may be a little suspect in pass coverage, and the db's are usually in zone and like to bait the qb rather than play soft zones and bend but don't break

We'll see how this game goes to see if my feel of Monmouth football is correct.  That'd be bad if I just gave a better scouting report than the AU coaches have.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: scottie on November 19, 2008, 05:59:04 PM
Geez!  Why don't you just give AU the Scots' first 10 plays while your at it???   ;D 

Probably doesn't matter....I think it will be pretty quiet on the visitors side by the 2nd quarter.   :o
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on November 19, 2008, 06:17:35 PM
So the NAC board is the lamest because we don't want people coming on here and talking crap about our teams and players???

Please, by all means, talk on any board at any time, but why should a MC fan (or any fan from some other conference) come on here and start a s*** storm???  What is the point of that?? If you don't want me to call you a jag then don't come on here and talk crap unprovoked.....does that make you feel like you got a huge one or something???

Offer your predictions for the game and insight that you have but leave your crap talk to your own boards...you don't see me talking crap on your board...and I know that I can and you would probably invite me to, but it's about respect....have some respect for the game and leave the s*** talk for game time

I am glad that AU and MC will play.....I think it will be a hell of a football game
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: LCLB52 on November 19, 2008, 06:30:40 PM
Well seeing as though I just played Aurora, they scored on one long drive, the other drives were short fields where we did not really give up any big plays. The stud RB was out last week so I am unsure if he's playing this week but I heard he's done. I am going to say the biggest play we gave up was a 20 yard inside zone on 3rd and 18. That one play changed the game but they did not have any tremendous plays. The QB is very good out of the pocket, that is where he wants to be throwing the ball from, he wont sit in the pocket. They'll zone ya, iso ya, PA ya, etc. nothing great just basic ball. There D is good, thats all you need to know. Look at the national stats, they are very good...But thats my insight it will be interesting how AU plans to stop a high powered offense...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 19, 2008, 06:58:59 PM
Congrats to all the ALL Conference selections. They are listed on the NAC web site. Good Job by all. Looks like AU, LC and CUW dominated as they should.

Good Luck to AU this week against MC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 19, 2008, 07:10:12 PM
Scottie-

Yeah, I am an NAC fan and played in the NAC, but this game should be ugly by the 2nd quarter.....hate to say it though.

Monmouth will have their scrubs in all the way through the 4th quarter....at least.

But prove me wrong AU.

Monmouth - 48
AU - 10
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Scots4 on November 19, 2008, 07:37:44 PM
Footballguy1.....are you crying? I guess "trash talking" was different when I was in college (1 year ago).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballguy1 on November 19, 2008, 11:56:47 PM
nope...just callin it like i see it
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Scots4 on November 20, 2008, 02:10:03 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on November 20, 2008, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: footballguy1 on November 19, 2008, 06:17:35 PM
So the NAC board is the lamest because we don't want people coming on here and talking crap about our teams and players???

Please, by all means, talk on any board at any time, but why should a MC fan (or any fan from some other conference) come on here and start a s*** storm???  What is the point of that?? If you don't want me to call you a jag then don't come on here and talk crap unprovoked.....does that make you feel like you got a huge one or something???

Offer your predictions for the game and insight that you have but leave your crap talk to your own boards...you don't see me talking crap on your board...and I know that I can and you would probably invite me to, but it's about respect....have some respect for the game and leave the s*** talk for game time

I am glad that AU and MC will play.....I think it will be a hell of a football game
it is the play-offs junior!
That is why they (Monmouth Fans) come on here.  Would you expect them to come on this board and kiss AU's puckers and say how great the Spartans are.
You are taking this way to personal, and embarrasing yourself.
Your priorities are off as the s**** talk is not for game time.  That is when the "athletes" of both teams will decide the game.  Not decided by anyone on here talking smack. 
It sounds like you want an all AU love fest.  There is no program that will get that on these boards.
Let whoever talk.... just remember to post after AU wins in a close one on Saturday.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: DC on November 20, 2008, 01:20:14 PM
Baseman201,

You played in the IBFC not the NAC buddy  ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerscot4 on November 20, 2008, 01:41:14 PM
As an old Scot from the late 80's early 90's I remember when we used to play AU in our non-conference schedule. I think it is great these two schools will get to play each other in the postseason. Spartan fans just remember parking is not a strong suit at Monmouth. Enjoy your trip through the corn fields and look forward to a great game on Saturday. there are new stands in place that was put in this year. Next year the field turf and lights get put in. At least you will get to see the first stages of the renovation. Hopefully will see some of you around there.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 20, 2008, 05:50:46 PM
AU fans pay no attention to the MC "Scottie" fans. They have a high opinoin of their team. Can't expect them to expect anything else. They are undeafeated and licking their chops. They, I am sure wished for a opponent like AU, instead of UWW or St. John's. I say be carefull what you wish for. This will be a good game.

I remember in 2004, AU's last playoff appearance. They were playing Wooster at Wooster the #2 seed and ranked in the top 10 per D3football. The Wooster Scot fans were unmerciful on this site. They were already talking about their matchup with Mount Union. Wooster was also undefeated. AU played a great game and was leading the whole game except for the last 3 minutes when Tony Sutton, a very ggod back, could not be stopped. Wooster went ahead with a minute plus to go and AU drove to the red zone and ran out of time and lost. AU lost but certainly showed the Scotts they could play with them.

I have a feeling we may see this same type of game on Saturday but with AU on the high side of the score. Go Sparty.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: scottie on November 21, 2008, 12:29:35 AM
Whatever helps you sleep, old 40.   :D 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerscot4 on November 21, 2008, 09:16:27 AM
Quote from: old 40 on November 20, 2008, 05:50:46 PM
AU fans pay no attention to the MC "Scottie" fans. They have a high opinoin of their team. Can't expect them to expect anything else. They are undeafeated and licking their chops. They, I am sure wished for a opponent like AU, instead of UWW or St. John's. I say be carefull what you wish for. This will be a good game.

I remember in 2004, AU's last playoff appearance. They were playing Wooster at Wooster the #2 seed and ranked in the top 10 per D3football. The Wooster Scot fans were unmerciful on this site. They were already talking about their matchup with Mount Union. Wooster was also undefeated. AU played a great game and was leading the whole game except for the last 3 minutes when Tony Sutton, a very ggod back, could not be stopped. Wooster went ahead with a minute plus to go and AU drove to the red zone and ran out of time and lost. AU lost but certainly showed the Scotts they could play with them.

I have a feeling we may see this same type of game on Saturday but with AU on the high side of the score. Go Sparty.

I do expect Aurora to come ready to play no doubt. If their defense is as good as I hear, it could be a whale of a game. Could be good football weather tomorrow in the Maple City, looking forward to great game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 21, 2008, 10:20:09 AM
Old 40, that's a very valid point, i was on that 2004 playoff team and it was a great game, we almost got that W, and there are some that remember that game and want to make good on a playoff run.....I can't wait
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 21, 2008, 01:24:56 PM
DC-

Haha, oh yeah my bad,  ;D

As for the talking crap, man I say go for it, the more the better.  I am sure a lot of us in here played a football game in high school or college where you were the culprit of smack talk, or someone lined up across from you was.

I think it makes the game fun, bantering back and forth.  Plus it's demoralizing.  If you are a QB and a defensive lineman says, "I gonna take you out the first play B****!!!!"  I mean, that can get a little intimidating, so there is a reason for it.

It's kind of like a dunk in basketball, sure it's only 2 pts like a layup, but it also demoralizes the opponent and gets your team and crowd fired up.

Just my opinions though.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerscot4 on November 21, 2008, 02:34:50 PM
The thing about smack talk is that you better back it up or you are the one demoralized. Maybe I am a little old school, but I am not a fan of trash talking. Just play the game and act like you been there before. Nothing wrong with celebrating a little, bu tno need for that trash. Knock you man down and help him up so you can do it again!!

But like I said, maybe I am a little old school. I remember one college game I was in I already had a touchdown catch and a few other catches. A defender got a decent lick on me and started talkin trash. I just got up and said look at the scoreboard We were up 35-0. That is an instance of bad trash talkin.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: superstar on November 21, 2008, 09:20:26 PM
The blue collar boys from AU 33....  monmouth who?  21.  Go Spartans!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 22, 2008, 10:44:38 AM
spartanswillwin!   ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerscot4 on November 22, 2008, 02:13:13 PM
Good first half for the Scots. I will say that #92 for Aurora is a stud at DT. He has made a ton of plays. Also glad to see one our local HS players #36 Dan Heinz is still playing football. I was the PA announcer when he played. Good kid. Has he had a good season?

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 22, 2008, 03:05:24 PM
looks like my prediction is going to be pretty close

MC - 48
AU - 10
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerscot4 on November 22, 2008, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: superstar on November 21, 2008, 09:20:26 PM
The blue collar boys from AU 33....  monmouth who?  21.  Go Spartans!

good call on that one.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: scottie on November 22, 2008, 08:23:14 PM
Congrats to the Spartans on a good season.  I thought the AU fans would have traveled a little better than they did, since it was an "in-state" game for them.   But I applaud the fans who did come down for the game.  They cheered really hard for their team, even after there was no doubt in the outcome of the game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on November 23, 2008, 03:53:57 PM
Congrats to our Spartans on a great season. Although the results weren't what we hoped for, the class shown by the team and the fans were oustanding. If you were there, you completely understand that. Monmouth is a great team and they played very well. Too many mistakes contributed to the lopsided score. Coach Duncan and the Spartans should be proud of what the accomplished this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on November 23, 2008, 05:21:41 PM
Quote from: scottie on November 22, 2008, 08:23:14 PM
Congrats to the Spartans on a good season.  I thought the AU fans would have traveled a little better than they did, since it was an "in-state" game for them.   But I applaud the fans who did come down for the game.  They cheered really hard for their team, even after there was no doubt in the outcome of the game.
Yes Scottie, thank you for your kind words.   We did cheer hard, however it was nort enough to overcome our mistakes.  Congrats to the Spartans, a lot of the naysayers didnt think they would make it this far.  MC has had a great year good luck on your journey
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 25, 2008, 10:26:38 AM
For anyone who hasn't seen the list yet

http://northernathleticsconf.com/sports/football/all-conference/
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on December 09, 2008, 07:15:18 PM
I see the All region awards are out, my link to the site must not be working properly, any selections from the NAC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ausid on December 09, 2008, 09:15:31 PM
NAC members of the North All-Region teams are as follows

First-Team
G Collin Smith, Sr., Aurora
DT Marcus Goedken, Sr., Aurora
CB Matt Meyer, Sr., Aurora

Second-Team
WR Matt Pawlyk, Sr., Lakeland
K Dan Winsey, So., Concordia (Wis.)
LB John Wagner, Sr., Lakeland

Third-Team
RB Ryne Reder, Jr., Aurora
DE Pat Funk, Jr., Aurora
LB Mike Budzinski, Jr., Aurora
CB Tony Musaraca, Jr., Aurora


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ausid on December 09, 2008, 09:17:13 PM
Congratulations to all members from the NAC who were named to the D3football.com North All-Region Team
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 16, 2008, 11:51:51 AM
Here's an article on WLC's 2009 footbal schedule:

http://wlcsports.athleticsite.com/article.asp?articleID=655
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on December 16, 2008, 03:24:33 PM
WLCALUM83

It is nice to see that WLC added Luther to their schedule. That type of competition will help them in the NAC. The IIAC is a very good conference. I see Lakeland also plays a member of that conference Central Iowa.

I know its early and all the schools are on the recruiting roads. Any feedback from any of the teams as to how they are going to weather the poor economic picture facing everyone? I think our economy may hurt some of the D3 teams. Parents only have so much money and the loan situation is not good.Any Thoughts?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on December 16, 2008, 09:05:42 PM
I would encourge anyone that has family attending any DIII school to use the finacial aide office as a resource, and apply for any grants and scholarships that are available.  I know that AU just came out with a new needs based grant. I think the availability and source change every year.  Seems the Govt wants to bail out just about every Tom Dick and Harry.  Looking for a quick fix when these young minds may one day man the ship.  The Govt should do more, like put a cap on the runaway cost of tuition and the book scams.  Good Luck
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on December 17, 2008, 05:42:43 PM
muzzman;

Very good advice and points. The next few years will be a challenge for all of us parents and students. I have heard that in some states the non D1 state schools are trimming athletic budgets, raising tuitions and cutting staff. These are do to loss of state revenues. This will make Athletic departments be self funding as is most D1 schools. For the state schools not D, this situation could help even out the cost at some of the private schools out there. It's going to get ugly and folks are going to have to get creative.

Muzzman, it looks as if AU will be the heavy favorite next year. I think they reload and will walk away with the title again.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on December 17, 2008, 05:50:15 PM
Has anyone heard any discussions about any of the NAC non-football playing schools considering adding football? I hope we see some of them add football. It may help with their enrollments. If this happened they could split the conference to North and South divisions like Basketball. This might help in non conference scheduling. Any thoughts.

Yes it is slow out there for football info.

Everyone have a Great Holiday season and Good Luck to everyone's team next season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lil sparty on December 19, 2008, 09:16:19 PM
Congrats to AU's Matt Meyer for 2nd Team selection to the AP Little All-American Team.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/36398489.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiacyKUU (http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/36398489.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiacyKUU)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on December 20, 2008, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: old 40 on December 17, 2008, 05:42:43 PM
muzzman;

Very good advice and points. The next few years will be a challenge for all of us parents and students. I have heard that in some states the non D1 state schools are trimming athletic budgets, raising tuitions and cutting staff. These are do to loss of state revenues. This will make Athletic departments be self funding as is most D1 schools. For the state schools not D, this situation could help even out the cost at some of the private schools out there. It's going to get ugly and folks are going to have to get creative.

Muzzman, it looks as if AU will be the heavy favorite next year. I think they reload and will walk away with the title again.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on December 20, 2008, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: old 40 on December 17, 2008, 05:42:43 PM
muzzman;

Very good advice and points. The next few years will be a challenge for all of us parents and students. I have heard that in some states the non D1 state schools are trimming athletic budgets, raising tuitions and cutting staff. These are do to loss of state revenues. This will make Athletic departments be self funding as is most D1 schools. For the state schools not D, this situation could help even out the cost at some of the private schools out there. It's going to get ugly and folks are going to have to get creative.

Muzzman, it looks as if AU will be the heavy favorite next year. I think they reload and will walk away with the title again.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on December 20, 2008, 01:14:54 PM
Old 40

AU looks strong next year may return 16 starters
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on December 21, 2008, 01:24:59 PM
Congrats yo AU's Matt Meyer AP 2nd team ALL AMERICAN and D3 2nd team ALL AMERICAN!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Wags40-LC on December 22, 2008, 11:17:37 PM
Dear NAC message board,

I am John Wagner. I played for the Lakeland College Muskies this season and I am proud to say I will graduate in May from that fine institution. I want to take this time to say thank you to all who have contributed to the IBFC and this season of the NAC. I feel everything in my life has gone to plan and I want to the thank God for allowing us to have played to this great game and to grow as individuals.

I recently have been invited to the tryout for the United National Gridiron League. It hopes to be a feeder for the NFL and other professional football organizations. Former teammate MacArthur White has also been invited. I will give all my effort, energy, and desire on these days. I will represent my family, my loved ones, my town, my former coaches, players, teams, conferences, and leagues.
Positive thinking and strong beliefs have changed my world and I will continue to progress my life forward. Gratitude and respect have been vital to the development of my abilities and the person that I am. I feel although I came for a small high school and college, I still have the abilities and motivation it takes to excel.

After seeing the Whitewater and Mount Union game, I took an even firmer stance that the players/coaches in those games aren't much different as players and coaches throughout the conferences in D3 or D2 football. The reason those teams and those colleges have had such success is because they put it together. They reached their potential and continued to build, avoiding setting barriers.

What I am saying is we aren't all so different. I smashed Derek Stanley, a wide receiver from Whitewater who is getting a lot of playing time for the Rams. I tackled Justin Beaver, the 2007 Heisman of D3 football, several times in the three times we met. If my 6'2" 195lb self can rack up 397 total tackles in four years from Linebacker and do what I did, most any other player can also have success.

The key is to have dedication, desire, and respect. The work doesn't have to be hard unless it is made that way. Make the workouts an empowering experience. Each day, get better. Have a positive attitude. Make choices that will benefit your well-being. Help those close to you and appreciate them and get them to push as hard as you by giving encouragement and incite. Positively affect the ones around you.

So after my rant, I forgot my intention was to say CONGRATS to this Conference, AU, Matt Meyer and those who helped impact his life. Being an All-American is a great honor. Honestly, I would trade any personal award or recognition for team success, which AU did have this season. All-American seemed more of a goal set by others for me, I apologize for not reaching that goal.

Lakeland needs to get together. The good thing for Lakeland next year is to set a goal to improve and I feel is very attainable for the guys coming back. Not just record wise, but also for individuals to step up and take responsibility. Lakeland has so much potential and heart. In order for the team to improve is to have more commitment for the guys to "get it together", setting the ultimate goal and having each individual put their efforts towards that goal. I know AU, Concordia, and CUC will have their say but that's what's great about competition. LAKELAND HAS WHAT IT TAKES.
Thanks for reading along. I wish you all a Happy Holidays. Good Luck, best wishes, and God Bless.

John Wagner

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Wags40-LC on January 09, 2009, 01:40:35 PM
Former Lakeland Wide Reciever MacArthur White was drafted yesterday by the United National Gridiron League.

http://fans.ungleague.com/article.php?article_id=4
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Wags40-LC on January 09, 2009, 06:47:54 PM
UPDATE:

DAY 2 of the online draft for the United National Gridiron League

Billy Hughes-Lakeland Punter

Mike Renaud-Concordia Punter
http://fans.ungleague.com/article.php?article_id=14

John Wagner- Linebacker
http://fans.ungleague.com/article.php?article_id=15
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on January 11, 2009, 11:17:14 AM
Wags-props to you and all the other NAthCon draftees--nice opportunity when you can get it.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on March 02, 2009, 11:44:57 AM
Long time since our board has been going. What does anyone hear about recruiting? I hear AU and CUW are burning it up and will have over 55 freshman for 2009 season. A coach from the CCIW told me he has seen Rockford all over the place. Should be another year where AU cruises but I think there will be a couple of suprises.

Two big questions. Can BU break into the top 2 or 3? Will CUC be able to get in the top 2-3 teams? Looks like CUW and Lakeland have tough non conference schedule again this year.

Anyone here about any NAC teams currently not playing football starting up?  Lets get the NAC talk going. I hope we can get some Rockford folks on it this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on March 02, 2009, 09:04:41 PM
I've heard the president at Marian wants to add football. She wants to add two sports. They are adding women's hockey for next year. With the expense of another hockey team plus the field they just built for baseball and another field they would have to build for football I don't see it happening anytime soon if it would happen. However I don't know what sport they would add.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on March 25, 2009, 07:35:51 PM
After reading the article on CC dropping football, which is a school that seemed to have good financial backing, dropping football and speaking with a couple of the NAC head coaches today. I think we will see more of this over the next few years. We all know that a couple of the NAC schools are struglling finacially or have struggled lately. The question is will the NAC be looking at  a team or two that will drop football? I am sure that the  NAC coaches and adminstators are looking very closely at their budgets and enrollments for next year. I would hate to see this young conference suffer a lost of a team.

I am curious what any of you think or have heard about concerns on any NAC team dropping Football. The economy is putting alot of pressure on all of our families and I think many are looking at public universities because of cost, especially room and board. I beleive our NAC schools are being crunched hard and if enrollments dip and financial packages are not as attractive  as the lower cost state collleges then we may see some programs dropped.My kids are looking at JC's for the first time instead of 4 year schools because I can't afford full boat private tuition, room and board.

I hope the pell grants continue to increase and the banking world will be able to make college loans so we can get our kids the education they need.

Curious on other parents thoughts. I hope some of you contribute your thoughts.We have to find a way to keep D3College and  football affordable so our kids have that great learning foundation to face this cruel ass world we all live in.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: oldnuthin on March 25, 2009, 10:26:20 PM
Quote from: old 40 on March 25, 2009, 07:35:51 PM
After reading the article on CC dropping football, which is a school that seemed to have good financial backing, dropping football and speaking with a couple of the NAC head coaches today. I think we will see more of this over the next few years. We all know that a couple of the NAC schools are struglling finacially or have struggled lately. The question is will the NAC be looking at  a team or two that will drop football? I am sure that the  NAC coaches and adminstators are looking very closely at their budgets and enrollments for next year. I would hate to see this young conference suffer a lost of a team.

I am curious what any of you think or have heard about concerns on any NAC team dropping Football. The economy is putting alot of pressure on all of our families and I think many are looking at public universities because of cost, especially room and board. I beleive our NAC schools are being crunched hard and if enrollments dip and financial packages are not as attractive  as the lower cost state collleges then we may see some programs dropped.My kids are looking at JC's for the first time instead of 4 year schools because I can't afford full boat private tuition, room and board.

I hope the pell grants continue to increase and the banking world will be able to make college loans so we can get our kids the education they need.

Curious on other parents thoughts. I hope some of you contribute your thoughts.We have to find a way to keep D3College and  football affordable so our kids have that great learning foundation to face this cruel ass world we all live in.

The nice thing about having kids ;D the more you have in  college, the more money the kids receive. I am hoping that the economy will turn so when they graduate, i will be able to help them repay their loans. Being unemployed also makes the university more generous with existing students.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on March 29, 2009, 04:39:20 PM
Quote from: oldnuthin on March 25, 2009, 10:26:20 PM
Quote from: old 40 on March 25, 2009, 07:35:51 PM
After reading the article on CC dropping football, which is a school that seemed to have good financial backing, dropping football and speaking with a couple of the NAC head coaches today. I think we will see more of this over the next few years. We all know that a couple of the NAC schools are struglling finacially or have struggled lately. The question is will the NAC be looking at  a team or two that will drop football? I am sure that the  NAC coaches and adminstators are looking very closely at their budgets and enrollments for next year. I would hate to see this young conference suffer a lost of a team.

I am curious what any of you think or have heard about concerns on any NAC team dropping Football. The economy is putting alot of pressure on all of our families and I think many are looking at public universities because of cost, especially room and board. I beleive our NAC schools are being crunched hard and if enrollments dip and financial packages are not as attractive  as the lower cost state collleges then we may see some programs dropped.My kids are looking at JC's for the first time instead of 4 year schools because I can't afford full boat private tuition, room and board.

I hope the pell grants continue to increase and the banking world will be able to make college loans so we can get our kids the education they need.

Curious on other parents thoughts. I hope some of you contribute your thoughts.We have to find a way to keep D3College and  football affordable so our kids have that great learning foundation to face this cruel ass world we all live in.

The nice thing about having kids ;D the more you have in  college, the more money the kids receive. I am hoping that the economy will turn so when they graduate, i will be able to help them repay their loans. Being unemployed also makes the university more generous with existing students.

The news that Colorado College dropped football is not surprising in and of itself with the economy being what it is. Some mitigating factors in their decision to drop the sport that were mentioned in the article, however, were quite telling. I guess when you are trying to fund a dI sport (hockey) as they are and spending upwards of a million dollars to do it, your other athletic programs may well take a hit. In addition, when your closest conference rival is 600 miles away and you're flying everywhere, that is really going to add some dollars to your athletic budget. (A side note: Why are there no dIII football playing schools in the Mountain Time zone? Are all the small schools playing NAIA?)

With a child attending a NAC school, I am certainly aware of economics and the cost of attending a private college! I've recently wondered what the financial benefits or drawbacks there are of athletic programs in small schools. Do the extra 60 or so students that are attending the college to basically play football (i.e. those who wouldn't be there if it weren't for football) add or detract to the bottom line; in other words does their tuition offset the cost to operate a football team?  I've heard some things relating to small schools giving athletic money in basketball, but football is probably a whole different animal.

There has to be a formula or ratio of some type which takes all the variables and sorts it out and indicates if a program is financially feasible. (If there is a book or article out there somewhere that outlines the finances of SMALL COLLEGE athletics, I'd like to see it. )
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 15, 2009, 11:57:38 AM
Wow, long time without any action on the NAC site. I hope all is well with everyone. Looks like it is only 2 months away from reporting time.

Well what is going on around the league. I was at a HS passing league and heard alot of good things from some AU players. Sounds like they have another big time QB transferring in with a big strong class of Freshmen. AU should be the hands down leader in the league this season! Another unbeaten NAC record!

Whats going on at the other schools? Any news? I would suspect that CUW will be back this year in a big way. Based on their web site it looks like they have changed OC. Does that mean a change to a wide open offense?

I expect BU to step up big and I think CUC, WLC or Rockford will have a break out year and challenge. Any news in Lakeland or MBC (hope they get an incresae in players this year).

I hope everyone has a good summer and let us know whats going on with your teams.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 15, 2009, 12:00:17 PM
Pat,

When will the 2009 preview be out? Every year it just gets better. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 25, 2009, 03:24:26 PM
CUW's new web site looks great. I would say the best in the league. Looks like they are back. A huge recruiting class of 60, per the article on the football website and it also states they have 60 returners. That is a big squad. The Head guy came from Carthage where he was very successful and it looks like he has the touch for recruiting. They will be one of the front runners with AU this year.

I hope our NAC folks come back to the site. Anyone hearing anything?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on July 07, 2009, 02:11:23 PM
(I posted this on the NAC basketball board, but I'll put it here as well.)

Seeing that we're in the summer "dead period", I'll throw out a few questions.

1) Do many of the NAthCon schools put out a summer release of their incoming recruits for football? When does the info come out for most schools; when the rosters are released in the fall? Other than relying on WLCALUM83's info, (Thank you, WCLALUM83) I'd like to get some information.

2) I was talking to my brother who lives in the west suburbs of Chicago (and who knows nothing about the conference but a little about Aurora because of his close proximity to the campus and CUW because his nephew considered going there) and was mentioning the "strong" athletic schools in the NathCon. I said, although a number of schools have individual sports in which they are traditionally strong (Domincan in men's soccer, CUC in baseball, etc.), Aurora and CUW seem to be pretty good from top to bottom in all sports. His reply was that he was surprised that Aurora and CUW were even in the NAthCon; that there would be a better conference suited to their overall athletic "excellence". Hmm.
     A few thoughts came to mind. If an AU or CUW wanted to change conferences, are there any in the region that they could get into if they really wanted to? Is this a situation where they like being a big fish in a relatively smaller pond? Where do economics come in? Or would AU or CUW struggle athletically in the CCIW or Midwest Conference?
     Let's get some summer banter going!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: cudub on July 09, 2009, 01:54:04 AM
Havent been on these boards for a while, but from a previous post I just saw, and from what i gather on the CUW website, Barnhill is no longer the O-coordinator?  I can GUARANTEE that means an improvement on that side of the ball.  The man had decent play calling ability, but was a horrendous motivator, and brought everyone but his top 1 or 2 players down.  Morale should go up on the offense.  If the talent is there, they could be dangerous.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 09, 2009, 09:30:32 PM
I hope you have signed up for Kickoff 2009. Lets get all the NAC guys to subscribe, only $9.95 for hours of good reading that will stimulate good discussions on the NAC board.

Pat when will the Kickoff 2009 be ready?


RFMichigan;
Interesting topic but I think AU and CUW are where they want to be. CCIW would not be kind to either school especially football. Administators would have to come up with big bucks to compete (financial packages) for the same high quality athletes that choose the CCIW. They get some of these kids but would have to have a whole bunch more to compete at the same level of success they have in the NAC in all of the sports.

What about a school like North Park looking at the NAC or Midwest  to get into. What does everyone else think.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: oldnuthin on July 10, 2009, 05:43:59 PM
Quote from: old 40 on July 09, 2009, 09:30:32 PM
I hope you have signed up for Kickoff 2009. Lets get all the NAC guys to subscribe, only $9.95 for hours of good reading that will stimulate good discussions on the NAC board.

Pat when will the Kickoff 2009 be ready?


RFMichigan;
Interesting topic but I think AU and CUW are where they want to be. CCIW would not be kind to either school especially football. Administators would have to come up with big bucks to compete (financial packages) for the same high quality athletes that choose the CCIW. They get some of these kids but would have to have a whole bunch more to compete at the same level of success they have in the NAC in all of the sports.

What about a school like North Park looking at the NAC or Midwest  to get into. What does everyone else think.


there was a posting on the CCIW board in the last 6 months showing the futility of North Park in most of the sports they compete in within the CCIW. It turned my nephew off entirely to the thought of attending NPU, even though he really liked Joe Davis who was recruting him. Davis is now at Wheaton. after that ramble i think NPU would be a much better fit for the NAC than CCIW. I know this will make some of their posters unhappy, but just one mans  opinion as to where they will be more competitive.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 10, 2009, 07:08:04 PM
Quote from: old 40 on July 09, 2009, 09:30:32 PM
I hope you have signed up for Kickoff 2009. Lets get all the NAC guys to subscribe, only $9.95 for hours of good reading that will stimulate good discussions on the NAC board.

Pat when will the Kickoff 2009 be ready?

Target date is Aug. 25. Thanks for asking!

http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on July 10, 2009, 10:37:26 PM
After my son went thru this and  was recruited by numerous NAC and CCIW schools including NP and let me say that the reason my son isn't in the CCIW is that most CCIW schools recruit enough players to have a 115 player roster. NAC teams have much less, giving you more of a chance to play. NP problem is that they are the CCIW doormat for a long time. Going to NP means getting the stuffing kicked out of you for 4 years...who wants that??
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on July 13, 2009, 11:10:06 AM
just to start some discussion


CUW v Cathage for this years scrimmage 8/29.  what are the dates and who are all the rest of ya'll tuning up against this year?


what is the most anticipated game on your schedule this year?

any helmet changes or uniform changes for the year?

looking forward to a great year



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: raiderguy on July 13, 2009, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: Rev. Kelly James Leary on July 13, 2009, 11:10:06 AM
just to start some discussion


CUW v Cathage for this years scrimmage 8/29.  what are the dates and who are all the rest of ya'll tuning up against this year?


what is the most anticipated game on your schedule this year?

any helmet changes or uniform changes for the year?

looking forward to a great year





Welcome to the fray we call D3 Football. Always good to see a new member join the group. Don't hesitate to drift to all the other boards too. You don't have to have a team interest to join in other discussions on the other sites. :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sadernation on July 13, 2009, 02:10:30 PM
All I'm going to say my friends is watch out for Maranatha over the next few years. As we all know, the Crusaders numbers were down big time this last year. The will likely have twice as many players on the roster which is good news for all of us. Its always nice to see a d3 team hang in there when others are dropping the sport entirely.

MBBC only lost two players from last years young squad. I think with a solid class the Crusaders could be middle of the pack this year in the NAC. I'm not getting crazy and predicting an upset of AU or CUW this fall. I think the gold and blue faithfuls would be happy with a "middle of the pack" season.

...for now:)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2009, 02:11:56 PM
That's good, because with only 25 players last year, it's important to not lose any.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: raiderguy on July 13, 2009, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2009, 02:11:56 PM
That's good, because with only 25 players last year, it's important to not lose any.


Pat,

Only you could make humor out of that statistic! ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on July 14, 2009, 11:38:49 AM
Quote from: raiderguy on July 13, 2009, 11:21:15 AM
Quote from: Rev. Kelly James Leary on July 13, 2009, 11:10:06 AM
just to start some discussion


CUW v Cathage for this years scrimmage 8/29.  what are the dates and who are all the rest of ya'll tuning up against this year?


what is the most anticipated game on your schedule this year?

any helmet changes or uniform changes for the year?

looking forward to a great year





Welcome to the fray we call D3 Football. Always good to see a new member join the group. Don't hesitate to drift to all the other boards too. You don't have to have a team interest to join in other discussions on the other sites. :)

Ive been around for a while just not writing --  one of these autumns I would love to make it to Alliance hopefully watching CUW play the Raiders --

who does MUC scrimmage usually?



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 14, 2009, 02:16:07 PM
Washington and Jefferson
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on July 15, 2009, 11:04:03 AM
Thanks Pat

;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sadernation on July 23, 2009, 04:54:39 PM
Does the NAC have a date set for their official media day?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on July 23, 2009, 10:17:31 PM
WLC gets Concordia-WI at home this year--Warriors played the Falcons tougher last year than previously. IMHO, (no offense to Mayville State), putting Luther-IA on the non-conference schedule will make that portion a bit tougher than last year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 24, 2009, 01:18:45 PM
Sadernation;

I heard that due to the poor economy that the schools have decided that they will not have a media day this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 25, 2009, 08:05:44 AM
WLCALUM83[

I think your Green and White will be a factor this year in the race. I only saw them on film against AU but they have some real talent. Their MLB and RB are good foundations to build around. WLC and BU may be the teams to step up and make a run. I think how WLC's performs in their non conference schedule will give us an idea to as to their success potential in the NAC. It's nice to see them play better competition.

I also was told by someone, assisant coach at a NAC school, who spoke with their head coach and that they had a very high quality recruiting class. Good Luck in 2009.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on July 25, 2009, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: sadernation on July 23, 2009, 04:54:39 PM
Does the NAC have a date set for their official media day?

I emailed the NAC site and was told too that it is cancelled due to economic considerations this year. :(
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sadernation on July 25, 2009, 06:23:20 PM
Thats a bummer:( Hopefully by next year things will have turned around financially for the NAC schools and other conferences who are facing the same problem.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 28, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
Congrats to Pat Funk DE from AU on being named 2nd team preseason All American by Pat and the D3 folks. Hwill be a beast this year and should be the dominate defensive force in the NAC. Looks like AU will start where they left off last year. Can anyone beat them this year? Any thoughts.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on July 29, 2009, 10:39:10 AM
I would think AU will still be tough --  it seems from other posts that most think their team will be in the thick of the conference race --

granted fans talk as such but I am glad to see that this conference seems to be growing stronger

:)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: raiderguy on July 29, 2009, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: old 40 on July 28, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
Congrats to Pat Funk DE from AU on being named 2nd team preseason All American by Pat and the D3 folks. Hwill be a beast this year and should be the dominate defensive force in the NAC. Looks like AU will start where they left off last year. Can anyone beat them this year? Any thoughts.

I can think of one team off the top of my head. ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 29, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
raiderguy'

Who do think the team will be? CUW or maybe BU. I would not argue with that if that is your selection. This year may be a year where several teams sneak up on some of the so called preseason front runners. Good Luck to your team whoever it is in 2009.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on July 29, 2009, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: raiderguy on July 29, 2009, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: old 40 on July 28, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
Congrats to Pat Funk DE from AU on being named 2nd team preseason All American by Pat and the D3 folks. Hwill be a beast this year and should be the dominate defensive force in the NAC. Looks like AU will start where they left off last year. Can anyone beat them this year? Any thoughts.

I can think of one team off the top of my head. ;D

I can think of one other.... ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on July 29, 2009, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: old 40 on July 29, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
raiderguy'

Who do think the team will be? CUW or maybe BU. I would not argue with that if that is your selection. This year may be a year where several teams sneak up on some of the so called preseason front runners. Good Luck to your team whoever it is in 2009.

I think he was sarcastically reffering to Mount union.... ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: raiderguy on July 29, 2009, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on July 29, 2009, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: old 40 on July 29, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
raiderguy'

Who do think the team will be? CUW or maybe BU. I would not argue with that if that is your selection. This year may be a year where several teams sneak up on some of the so called preseason front runners. Good Luck to your team whoever it is in 2009.

I think he was sarcastically reffering to Mount union.... ;)

Nice catch 02 Warhawk +k for you. :o


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sadernation on August 09, 2009, 04:28:35 PM
4 weeks until the season kicks off my friends!!! I can't wait :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 10, 2009, 02:16:34 PM
I too am looking forward to it -- I will be photographing CU v Bethel and CU v Valpo

I am going to ask a 3rd grader so i can figure how to upload them to the gallery here -- not very computer literate   ???

kel
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on August 10, 2009, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: old 40 on July 29, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
raiderguy'

Who do think the team will be? CUW or maybe BU. I would not argue with that if that is your selection. This year may be a year where several teams sneak up on some of the so called preseason front runners. Good Luck to your team whoever it is in 2009.

Old 40

I think AU CUW and Lakeland will be in the mix folled bt Rockford BU Wisc Lutheran ,  the AU defense looks solid, Reder should be healthy, as far as the offense, we will see what the new QB and the O line bring to the table.  But ......... I cant wait! It should be another exciting year
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sadernation on August 11, 2009, 02:47:34 AM
The NAC coaches poll has been released. AU is picked first and received all of the 1st place votes. CW was #2 and Lakeland was #3 followed by BU, WLU, CC, Rockford, and MBBC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 11, 2009, 09:38:17 AM
Muzzman;

I think you are right on your predictions. I think BU and WLC will finish ahead of Lakeland. I know BU has alot of Seniors. This could be a very close race which will make for a great year. Maybe some of the teams can win some of their non-conference games. Lakeland and CUW are playing a loaded preseaon schedule and will most likely go 0-3. I see a couple of the other conference teams have stepped up with at least one top notch opponent from tough leagues.

I will make some predictions in a week or two. Who is AU scrimmaging this year and when? I want to go to one of the scrimmages this year.

What is everyones take on the recruiting year of each team? I hear that CUW has 60 Freshmen coming in (see their website). CUC and BU (see web site) have over 50 Freshmen coming in. What about the other teams?

Good Luck to everyones teams this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on August 11, 2009, 08:13:18 PM
Old 40

AU will be home Aug 29 for their scrimmage vs North Park this year.  Recruits, I havent heard too much
other than what most others have already noted. The QB. and a RB from AZ dont know much about him.  It would be nice to get some wins in non conferance play.  That would give the conferance a big boost.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sadernation on August 12, 2009, 02:02:49 AM
Here is how I'm picking the conference
Warning! Spoiler Alert!

1. Aurora
2. Concordia Wisconsin
3. Lakeland
4. Benedictine
5. Maranatha :o
6. Wisconsin Lutheran
7. Rockford
8. Concordia Chicago

So let it be written. So let it be done :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 12, 2009, 10:01:31 PM
A pre-season honor for a WLC player here:

http://wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=1005

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 12, 2009, 10:34:41 PM
wlcalum83;

I saw one of your games last year and he is a baller. The best young LB in the league. I heard they landed another good one but do not know where from. Some teams better watch out for WLC this year. They will sneak up on someone. What is your thoughts on their non-conference schedule. Northwestern and Luter will be  very tough and I hear St. Scholastca is improved.  Your thoughts. and Good luck this year to WLC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 12, 2009, 10:39:08 PM
WLCALUM83

I see on the Lakeland web site that they had two players selected also. One an OL and the orther a DB. I think the DB is a real good one. I am not sure on the OL. I wonder if CUW had anyone on the team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Wags40-LC on August 14, 2009, 10:44:54 AM
Aaron Kraemer is the OL and Keith Woodson is the DB. Both should be 1st team again this year considering their work ethic and abilities. Perhaps even All-Region. Here's a link.
http://lakeland.edu/athletics/muskienews.asp?article=5733

What I'm wondering is why is Benedictine and Concordia Wisconsin are getting picked above Lakeland when they beat both those teams last year by a good margain. I think Concordia Chicago potential to upset Bendictine and WLC as well.

With camp starting this weekend, the rust will be shook off and we'll see who puts it together the best. I'm going to root for the Muskies but keep an eye on some good players around the conference. I'll keep an eye on Muskie camp and report back on hopefully how well the team is doing. Hope you guys trained hard in the offseason because that's going to have the biggest affect on this season's outcome. Good Luck NAC. Win a playoff game!!!

My picks
1. Lakeland
2. Aurora
3. CUW
4. CUC
5. Benedictine
6. WLC
7. Rockford
8 Marantha
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 14, 2009, 06:01:33 PM
so just exactly how does one get negative "karma"??? ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: OC_SID on August 14, 2009, 08:17:04 PM
Quote from: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 14, 2009, 06:01:33 PM
so just exactly how does one get negative "karma"??? ;D

Read the FAQs on the d3football.com Web site, but to save you a couple clicks:

http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=Message%20board&id=34
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 15, 2009, 06:04:41 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 15, 2009, 06:06:03 PM
apparently I have been smote!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on August 15, 2009, 06:35:46 PM
Quote from: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 15, 2009, 06:06:03 PM
apparently I have been smote!

Fear not - the consequences are not nearly as dire as in your regular line of work! :D

But I'll return you to neutral.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 17, 2009, 12:27:10 PM
Yeah, thanks -- we dont do alot of karma in the Lutheran Church


how many teams of the NAC have fan sites?  CUW has one this year

http://www.cuwfff.net/



does your team have one (whomever that may be?)

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on August 17, 2009, 03:09:36 PM
Quote from: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 17, 2009, 12:27:10 PM
Yeah, thanks -- we dont do alot of karma in the Lutheran Church


how many teams of the NAC have fan sites?  CUW has one this year

http://www.cuwfff.net/



does your team have one (whomever that may be?)



I'm a visitor from the CCIW.  I'm a big fan of Bob (Titan Q) Quillman's IWUHoops.com, but if there is a football fan site I haven't found it.

You appear to have ticked someone off - let me get you back to neutral again! ;)
Title: NAC COACHES POLL
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 20, 2009, 12:46:14 PM
"2009 NAC Football Preseason Coaches' Poll
1. Aurora (8), 64
2. Concordia Wisconsin, 54
3. Lakeland, 45
4. Benedictine, 34
5. Wisconsin Lutheran, 33
6. Concordia Chicago, 27
7. Rockford, 23 8.
Maranatha Baptist, 8

:o

CUW 2nd????
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Wags40-LC on August 24, 2009, 02:25:24 PM
I got a chance to see Lakeland's scrimmage this past Saturday. I was pretty impressed with the speed of the WRs. They made some really great catches to move the chains and to get into the endzone. Dworak, QB, will have the most passing yards in the conference this year.

The running game seems like it will back with a vengeance. Jermey Williams is a tank and still moves well his bigger frame, he'll make people pay for coming to tackle him. They better have their mouth guard in.

Defensively, it seems things need to be ironed out but nothing that isn't fixable. Just guys getting more comfortable with schemes and coverages. The D flies around yet and they have been getting after it. With the D doin extra conditioning everyday after team conditioning, it will be hard to wear the Darkside down.

The Dline look like the fire off and get off blocks well. LB's are forming into strong run stoppers and are getting better at covering. DB's and Safety's lock down and make the QB have to make passes in some tight windows.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 25, 2009, 10:40:48 AM
thanks for the update -- when I played LC and CU (then CC) were always good battles

nice to see they are getting stronger again - it can only help the conference.

who is LC playing non conf?  strong teams I would assume?

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 25, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
Rev;

Per D3 the Lakeland team plays Central Iowa, Mt. St. Joe and Carthage as non conference. Looks like they will have their hands full.

Who does CUW scrimmage, they use to go against Carthage? Cuw has their hands full also in the non-conference as they play Bethal, Valpo and Wheaton. Good Luck to your team this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 25, 2009, 01:18:39 PM
at Carthage this saturday --


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 25, 2009, 03:14:42 PM
If you have not purchased your Kickoff 2009 then I would recommend you do so. It is very, very good. Purchasing this will give you insight on all the D3 teams and all the conference teams, plus it supports the D3 website. Great Job Pat and Keith. The best work you have done. Great Job.

Very good synopsis on each team in the conference. Sounds like WLU and BU can be very dangerous this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 30, 2009, 10:45:36 AM
Did anyone see any scrimmages over the weekend? I am curious on the BU/IWU scrimmage. AU looked good against NPU. AU's Defense will be tough this year.

Rev;
Were you able to see CUW againt Carthage? How did CUW look? I talked to a dad of a Carthage Fresman and said CUW look fairly young with alot of mistakes. This dad also said Carthage looked really good.

Did anyonesee Lakeland/Elmhurst scrimmage? Who did Rockford, WLC and CUC scrimmage? Any responses to get the board going.

Next week they play for keeps.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on August 31, 2009, 10:19:05 AM
Nope - I had to preach saturday night and so couldnt make the trip -- I am emailing on of the fathers of a player -- and get a report -- 

I wold expect alot of mistakes - whole new offense this year

and if they are young -- and Carthage is usually always very solid --

Etter came from Carthage(if I recall correctly) and their may have been some more emotional motivation (not bad intention - just show our old coach type stuff)

though the next couple games are gonne be tough - it will help CU in the long run

check out the CUW fan site cuwfff.net sunday for photos -

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 31, 2009, 01:46:11 PM
Conference predictions for 2009 season;

1- AU- Defense should carry them to the title but the will not run the table as they did last year.

2-CUW- Lots of Athletes on Defense and will be tough to beat at home. Their schedule is in their favor. Would not suprise me to see them tie AU for the title.

3-BU- This may be their year with all the Seniors they have. They have AU at home in the opener.

3- Tie WLC- Yes the WLC team has their break out year and ties BU for third place.

5 Lakeland- Lost the two Conference POY. The Big Question is can they reload this year or are they a 2nd tier team for awhile?

6-CUC- They made some strides last year especially on Offense. They knocked off Lakeland and will give all the teams headsches this year. Defense keeps them from anything higher.

7-Rockford- Will be tough at times if they can get a QB to preform.

8-MBC- Good to see over 40 players on the camp roster. Will play a few teams tough this year.

Well, these are my guesses for the year. I hope everyone enjoys the season and NO serious injuries to any teams. Good Luck to everyone.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 01, 2009, 12:55:39 AM
Posted CCIW Pick-em's Contest rules and week #1 games.  All are welcome to participate.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 01, 2009, 12:09:32 PM
posted where my friend??? ???
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 01, 2009, 08:35:12 PM
1st. week guesses on outcomes

AU wins big over Lake Forest at home 31-0
Bethel over CUW in a close game 28-24
Central,IA over Lakeland 52-13
Martin Luther over MBC  28-7
Dubuque over Rockford 42-6
Northwestn,MN over WLC 28-21 "close game"
Elmhurst over BU 21-7
St. Scholastica over CUC 28-21 The long road trip will hurt CUC.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 01, 2009, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 01, 2009, 12:09:32 PM
posted where my friend??? ???

Apologies... I failed to remember that not all posters know where the Pick-Em's contests are located:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?board=1497.0 (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?board=1497.0)

Indirectly you can get to the link above by going to "Post Patterns", "General Football", and then the "Pick-Em's" board. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 02, 2009, 09:22:49 AM
Quote from: old 40 on September 01, 2009, 08:35:12 PM
1st. week guesses on outcomes

AU wins big over Lake Forest at home 31-0
Bethel over CUW in a close game 28-24
Central,IA over Lakeland 52-13
Martin Luther over MBC  28-7
Dubuque over Rockford 42-6
Northwestn,MN over WLC 28-21 "close game"
Elmhurst over BU 21-7
St. Scholastica over CUC 28-21 The long road trip will hurt CUC.



WLCALUM83's guesses:

Aurora
Bethel
Central
Martin Luther
Dubuque
Northwestern-MN
Elmhurst
Concordia-Chicago
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: theoptimist on September 02, 2009, 12:47:36 PM
What are the expert opinions on the better game to attend this weekend:  CUW v Bethel or WLC v Northwestern?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: AO on September 02, 2009, 02:41:09 PM
Quote from: theoptimist on September 02, 2009, 12:47:36 PM
What are the expert opinions on the better game to attend this weekend:  CUW v Bethel or WLC v Northwestern?
Neither game was within 4 touchdowns last year, so I'd say it's a toss up.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 02, 2009, 05:07:19 PM
Im at CU... being an alum and former player --

more objectively...

I saw CU v Bethel in 07 in the playoffs and I thought CU hung in physically with Bethel

with a new offense I believe that the game will be very competitive -  8)




Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 03, 2009, 11:12:08 AM
picks for the week

AU over Lake Forest
CU sneaks by Bethel  :o
Central over Lakeland
Martin Lutheran over MBC
Dubuque  beats Rockford
Elmhurst over BU

CUC over St. Scholastica
WLC over Northwestern

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2009, 09:20:32 AM
Looks like all results held to form: St. Scholastica and Lake Forest kept things interesting early before CUC and Aurora respectively took control late, Benedictine didn't get blown out like last year, and WLC gave NW MN more of a tussle than last year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 07, 2009, 06:48:09 PM
Any details on any of the previous weekend's games? Thanks!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 08, 2009, 08:16:37 AM
Box score off of CUC's website indicated that St. Scholastica led the Cougars on 2 occasions early before Concordia-Chicago's passing attack went into high gear.

Aurora/Lake Forest was a game the defenses stood out in.

WLC led NW MN 20-17 at one point in the second half, and (per NW MN release) the road squad's QB wasn't on his usual game, throwing several interceptions. The Warrior kicking game also was off, too. Still. WLC put in a better showing than last year.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 09, 2009, 11:54:17 AM
While CU still needs to grow to be on par with powerhouses like Bethel - the real story was too many turnovers -- you cant give a BU easy chances

CU is young and will benefit from playing teams like BU and Valpo --

anyone see the CUW JV game?  any thoughts on the younger of the young team?

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NuTS on September 09, 2009, 01:58:06 PM
While I agree CUW is young and made too many mistakes this past weekend, I'm not so sure that playing 3 non-conference teams of this caliber is doing them any good.  One game - yes, it will show your team what you need to aspire to.  But, Bethel was probably the "easy" game of the three!  They still have Valpo (DI) and then travel to Wheaton.  I know Coach Etter walked into this schedule but, I hope he can make some changes starting next year.  Last year these three games took a physical toll on the team.  Let's hope that doesn't happen this year.  Hang tough!  I'm sure the coaches and Seniors will pull them through.  Go Falcons!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 09, 2009, 04:32:55 PM
NuTS;
Great points on the CUW non-conference schedule. The one thing playing these teams, that is helpful is the speed of the game. It is much faster than most of the NAC schools play at. It helps also getting used to the speed of the game when playoffs roll around. I think if you look at AU, Lakeland and CUW, who have been playing way up in the non conference, these tough games have made them conference champs each of the last many years.

I agree that playing 3 tough games may be a bit much. I see AU went easy, not so easy and tough in their 3 non-conference games this year.

I think Wheaton will be a much tougher test for CUW. I see CUW playing Valpo really tough.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 09, 2009, 05:25:25 PM
thanks for the insights guys -- you are probably right about all three non conf games as maybe too much but I am certain they will perform well in conference

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 10, 2009, 10:43:20 AM
Here's my take on the weekend

Mount St. Joe over Lakeland
Kalamazoo beats up Rockford
CUC goes 2-0
CUW goes 0-2
Luther tops WLC
St. Scholastica overcomes Maranatha
Aurora easy over MacMurry
North Central takes Benedictine


I am photographing the Lawrence v Monmouth game in Appleton -- what game are you going to attend?

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 10, 2009, 12:00:11 PM
Guesses for week 2

AU at home vs MacMurray- Big win 48-7
CUC over Eureka in a tight one. 28-21
CUW vs Valpo. Close game and Valpo hangs on 21-20
LC at MSJ- Maybe closer than one would expect MSJ 31-LC 28
St Scholastca wins first game over MBC- 31-13
RU vs Kalamazoo. Kazoo wins close game 21-16
Luther all over WLC- 42-14
North Central rebounds over first loss big. NCC 46- BU7

Some interesting results in week one.

I thought CUW would play better against Bethal. CUW can get Valpo if they cut the turnovers.

I was shocked at the LC stats on Central, at least passing, compared to last year. They may have something if their defense ever shows up.

BU should be better than anyone thinks this year. They played Elmhurst very close and will be a factor in the NAC. If you do not prepare for them they will beat you.

CUC has all the weapons on Offense again this year and should be better in the NAC. Olivet will be a big test for them, especially from a physical nature.

WLC looks to be the real deal as they played Northwern (MN) much closer than last year. They also will be a tough game for everyone in the NAC.

Good Luck to everyones team this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 10, 2009, 12:03:41 PM
Rev

I am going to check out BU and North Central game.

You will see one of the premier QB's in the Tanney kid from Monmouth. He is real good.

It's been very quiet from some of the AU, LC, CUC and BU fans that use to be on here. I hope you come back. We all enjoyed your comments.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on September 10, 2009, 01:25:24 PM
thanks for the heads up on Tanney --

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 10, 2009, 08:36:53 PM
WLCALUM83's picks:

Aurora
CUC
Valpo
MSJ
Maranatha
Kzoo
Luther
NCC



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 12, 2009, 07:19:39 PM
Nice win by CUC over Eureka today, 34-21

Next week is the real test though to see how far they have come against Olivet.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 14, 2009, 02:37:04 PM
Caught the BU and NCC game Sat. night. North Central is a very good team. BU never had a chance. NCC has superior talent in all positions. If I was BU I would drop them for a more competitive opponent that is closer to BU's level. NCC is way over their level.

Did anyone see the AU-MacMurray game? I can't beleive it was that close. I will catch the IWU game this Sat.

Congrats to CUC, they are 2-0. Maybe it's their year.

Good job by CUW also against Valpo. I really thought thyey could get Valpo. This Sat. will be a tough game (Wheaton).

Any word on Lakeland, CUW or BU?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on September 14, 2009, 03:58:38 PM
I was at the AU game... http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/sports/1768119,2_2_AU13_SPARTANS_S1-090913.article


Gotta say Coach Duncan is totally right on about this one!!!


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on September 15, 2009, 09:18:55 PM
Looks like Concordia IL is making some noise as well as Wisc Lutheran I think it will be a real dog fight this year in the NAC.
AU on the road to IL Weslyan should be a good game with the AU offense starting to come together.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 16, 2009, 07:52:54 PM
Congrats to AU and CUC for being 2-0 and leading the NAC in non-conference victories. 4 NAC teams against the CCIW this week. Look for CCIW domination. BU has a chance against North Park.

Week 3 guesses.

CUC at Olivet- big game for the cougers. This game will see where they are physically against a physical team. Olivet over CUC 31-24.

Macalaster(MN) over MBBC- 31-6

Alma rocks Rockford 28-7

WLC gets first win at St. Scholastica WLC38-SSC27

AU at IWU CCIW continues domination of NAC IWU34- AU10

CUW at Wheaton, Ouch, Wheaton 51-CUW 6

Lakeland at Carthage, close last year but in 2009 another Ouch for LC. Carthage 42- LC 34.

NPU at BU. BU gets a close win over the CCIW school. BU14-North Park13

Good luck to everyones team. Next week is a bye week before the conference chase starts. Look out for BU, WLC and CUC. IMHO they are out to make the top 3.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 17, 2009, 07:20:13 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Olivet
Macalester
Alma
WLC
IL Wes
Wheaton-IL
Lakeland
Benedictine-IL



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on September 17, 2009, 09:22:40 PM
Quote from: muzzman on September 17, 2009, 09:18:31 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 16, 2009, 07:52:54 PM
Congrats to AU and CUC for being 2-0 and leading the NAC in non-conference victories. 4 NAC teams against the CCIW this week. Look for CCIW domination. BU has a chance against North Park.

Week 3 guesses.

CUC at Olivet- big game for the cougers. This game will see where they are physically against a physical team. Olivet over CUC 31-24.

Macalaster(MN) over MBBC- 31-6

Alma rocks Rockford 28-7

WLC gets first win at St. Scholastica WLC38-SSC27

AU at IWU CCIW continues domination of NAC IWU34- AU10

CUW at Wheaton, Ouch, Wheaton 51-CUW 6

Lakeland at Carthage, close last year but in 2009 another Ouch for LC. Carthage 42- LC 34.

NPU at BU. BU gets a close win over the CCIW school. BU14-North Park13

Good luck to everyones team. Next week is a bye week before the conference chase starts. Look out for BU, WLC and CUC. IMHO they are out to make the top 3.




AU will show up to make it close, otherwise good to see the NAC earn some respect with their non conferance wins!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 19, 2009, 04:45:22 PM
Final just in:  WLC 27, St. Scholastica 13. :)

WLC-Muldrow & Hairl both over 100 yds rushing on the day per St. Scholastica live stats

St. Scholastica QB Thiry had a hot throwing hand for a while in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 19, 2009, 04:57:27 PM
Other finals:  CUC 12, Olivet 7
                      Benedictine 27, North Park 17
                      Alma 51, Rockford 3 (Ouch!)
                     
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 19, 2009, 06:17:12 PM
I think CUC just proved they are a contender this year.

Awesome to see them finally coming around and being competitive

Watch out NAC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fishguy on September 19, 2009, 11:52:13 PM
Wesleyan 52, Aurora 6 (IWU had 566 yards)
Carthage 50, Lakeland 34 (Carthage had over 600 yards)
Wheaton 54, CUW 3 (Wheaton had 544 yards)

The league is not very good this year, so yes CUC might have a chance. The winner of this league is going to get absolutely blasted in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2009, 06:32:09 AM
Another final:  Macalester 52, Maranatha Baptist 12.

A further note on the now- 3 and 0 Cougars:

WLC gets Concordia-Chicago after the bye week. Last year the Warriors beat that squad just before it got hot. This gridiron rivalry has the potential to be just as interesting as both men's and women's hoops rivalries have been.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 20, 2009, 09:40:10 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 19, 2009, 04:57:27 PM
Other finals:  CUC 12, Olivet 7
                      Benedictine 27, North Park 17
                      Alma 51, Rockford 3 (Ouch!)
                     
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 19, 2009, 04:45:22 PM
Final just in:  WLC 27, St. Scholastica 13. :)

WLC-Muldrow & Hairl both over 100 yds rushing on the day per St. Scholastica live stats

St. Scholastica QB Thiry had a hot throwing hand for a while in the 2nd half.
Quote from: baseman201 on September 19, 2009, 06:17:12 PM
I think CUC just proved they are a contender this year.

Awesome to see them finally coming around and being competitive

Watch out NAC

WLCALUM:
Good to see your WLC won yesterday.  We miss your contributions on our board, although I see Hope has scheduled WLC for next year in 2010 and 2011 for non-conference games.  Take care and talk to you later.

baseman:
I was surprised by the CUC/Olivet score as well.  As you say, it appears CUC is improving; Olivet appears to be sliding.  As some of the newer programs in your conference improve, so will the competitiveness level.  It is good to see that, although admittedly, I have to agree that both the NAC and the MIAA will have a tough time in the playoffs regardless of who represents both leagues.  That's just the reality of the situation at present.  But...we're always looking forward!!! ;)

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 20, 2009, 12:30:16 PM
I was able to take in the CUC-Olivet yesterday on a beautiful afternoon for college football. Here are a few notes on the game (and CUC's program):

1) After last year's 59-0 pounding, it's possible that OC took CUC lightly. However, CUC made the most of the opportunities that were presented them, such as . . .

2) When you turn the ball over 6 times (as Olivet did) you are certainly helping out your opponent. However, on the four interceptions, CUC was able to put pressure on the OC QB AND the CUC DBs had excellent coverage.

3) When this offense is clicking it is fun to watch (and probably play!) CUC has a QB who has played in this system for three years and a herd of receivers who can catch the ball.  While they take a number of sacks, the threat of the big play is always there.

4) Although I'm not sure that CUC is on the level of "physical play" of the MIAA (or even traditionally "physical" NAC) teams yet, the team I saw yesterday was totally different than the one I saw last year in terms of physicality and toughness. During the last third of the game CUC was just running the ball right at OC with some success. (What a difference a year of experience, weight room work, etc. makes. ) Plus, the coordinator used blitzes effectively to offset certain physical mismatches they may have had on defense.

5) Something that CUC has struggled with for, oh, the last 20 or so years, has been they had to rely on 10+ freshman to start on either side of the ball each year. Then the turnover from year to year was so great that they basically had to start all over again from year to year. CUC finally has a program with upperclassmen in their core (which any college program needs to succeed) who are more mature physically and in terms of "college football experience". It's still an ongoing process for them and certainly not a finished product by any means, but they seem to pointed in the right direction.

6) Is CUC a contender in the NAC? As I'm sure their coaches are preaching to their players, they need to just take each game as it comes. I'm excited to see how the NAC conference games shake out, but you still have to go through the Auroras, the CUWs, the Lakelands, and the BUs of the world. If you want to be a contender you have to cut down on mistakes (penalties, turnovers, mised asignments,etc.) and CUC had plenty of those themselves yesterday - many which killed scoring opportunities.  (A penalty on a beautiful throw-and -atch which nullified a long TD pass, two interceptions when the ball was inside the OC 15, and a missed FG after having a 1st and goal late in the game, among others.)

All in all, I was pretty proud after the game. Plus, the players I had a chance to talk to after the game were ULTRA respectful and personable - a  nice representation of the school.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 20, 2009, 11:32:19 PM
Congrats to CUC, BU and WLC for their wins. Looks like CUC is the team to beat this year. Good for them.

BU was the only winner in the 4 battles against the CCIW.

I caught the AU game and was shocked at what the team looks like this year from last year. I really thought they would go undefeated. IWU is better than last year IMHO. AU's tailback did not get much blocking from his line. If they correct that then he will run for big yards again in the NAC. Potential to be OPOY.

IMHO, CUW will bounce back with a vengence, since their opponents that beat them in Non conference was 8-1. They played tough competition, should pay off for them.

Anyone see the LC-Carthage game or the BU and NPU games. Curious as to the story line from those games.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NuTS on September 21, 2009, 09:54:30 AM
Statistically, the Carthage / Lakeland game wasn't as close as it appeared from the stands.  Lakeland ran the opening kickoff back for a TD and Carthage then scored quickly on their first possesion making it 7-7 before 2 minutes had been played.  Lakeland later ran an interception back for a TD and mistakes by Carthage and special teams play set up some of their other points.  So even though the score was close for most of the game (in fact Lakeland led much of the time) you can see it wasn't necessarily their offensive production that generated their 34 points.

Lakeland is (as usual) an emotional team.  Which is good when things are going your way but unfortunately also affects you negatively when the chips are down.  Carthage IMHO has a great QB but he is a bit of a gun slinger (reminded me of Farve, high risk/high reward). He threw into double coverage (often successfully) and often haphazardly threw it up for grabs when scrambling which LC took advantage of at times.  I also think that CC just does some goofy stuff that they just don't need to do.  They have some excellent potential (particularly in the passing game) but need to develop their run game and get back to basic fundamental football.

I don't think that either team has a particularly good defense but both showed some potential, just not consistantly.  The line play was equal between the teams but both need some work.  I wasn't impressed with the run game for either team.

I really enjoyed the game because it was competitive and close until CC pulled away at the end.  It was good to see a NAC team hang with a CCIW school after hearing some of the scores from other games between the conferences.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 21, 2009, 02:16:36 PM
  I still think AU finishes in the top 2 of the NAC.  Yes, CUC is improved, but come on.  They are still a pretty bad team.  I am not trying to talk crap but come on; are we serious? CUC winning the conference?!?!?!  They still haven't played a decent team yet yet.
  Coach Duncan will "right the ship" and get the spartans going again.  AU finishes the season 8-2 or 9-1.
  These games overwhelming show how much better the CCIW is then a lot of other conferences.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 21, 2009, 09:58:04 PM
Props for 2 Warrior players here:

http://wlcsports.com/artile.asp?articleID=1107
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 22, 2009, 01:15:36 PM
Dizzle-

I don't think anyone has flat out said, "CUC is going to win conference this year", if someone did then I apologize.

I think we are saying how improved they are from last year and can actually contend, plus I don't see Olivet as a pushover team, I am sure they can keep it close with all teams in this league.

If you want to call a team that is leading the NAC in pretty much every offensive category "a pretty bad team" that's fine.  I guess we won't know until NAC play starts.

good luck to everyone.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 22, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
Baseman201

Good points. I also think they have improved but not ready to crown them. Each year they have made strides upward. I  just looked up everyones opponents current record in this years non conference games.

CUC- 3-0
beat Eureka 2-1
beat St Scholastica 1-2
beat Olivet 0-3
Non conf. oppent records 3-6

CUW 0-3
lost Bethal 2-1
lost Valpo 2-1
lost Wheaton 2-0
Non conf. oppnent records 6-2

LC 0-3
lost to Central IA 3-0
lost Mt. St. Joe 2-0
lost Carthage 2-0
Non conf. opponet records 7-0

AU 2-1
beat Lake Forest 0-3
beat MacMurray 0-3
lost IWU 3-0
Non conf. opponet records 3-6

BU 1-2
lost Elmhurst 2-0
lost NCC 1-1
beat NPU 1-2
Non conference opponets record 4-3

WLC 1-2
lost NW-MN 1-2
lost Luther 1-2
beat St.Scholastica 1-2
Non conference opponents record 3-6

RC 0-3
lost Dubuque 1-2
lost Kalamazoo 2-1
lost Alma 2-1
Non Conference opponents record 5-4


What does all of this mean? Probably not much when it comes to who is going to win the NAC. Some schools played a blistering non conference schudle and others went for the wins. I am not judging which one is right.

I think CUW and LC scheduled a buzz saw for non conf. Didn't do much for the coaches W/L record. BU and RC opponets have a winning record as of this date also.

Nothing beats winning and I applaud the CUC Cougars who are undefeated and ready to take on WLC and the rest of the league.

Sorry to bore everyone with the info but it was a bit surprising to see. Look forward to everyones picks next week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tm343407 on September 22, 2009, 09:53:38 PM
Whoever thinks Olivet is a pushover team should look into them a little more. Their two other losses are against Wittenberg, who is always a tough team, and Elmhurst, who was within one win of a CCIW championship. Olivet may have went 1-9 last season, but they lost six games by 12 points or less and three games by five or less.

Not sure if that means much, but Olivet would have the talent to contend in the NAC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 22, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
Someone over on the MIAA board indicated that Olivet had several chances deep in CUC territory in the game, but failed to convert--
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 22, 2009, 10:04:39 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 22, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
Baseman201

Good points. I also think they have improved but not ready to crown them. Each year they have made strides upward. I  just looked up everyones opponents current record in this years non conference games.

CUC- 3-0
beat Eureka 2-1
beat St Scholastica 1-2
beat Olivet 0-3
Non conf. oppent records 3-6

CUW 0-3
lost Bethal 2-1
lost Valpo 2-1
lost Wheaton 2-0
Non conf. oppnent records 6-2

LC 0-3
lost to Central IA 3-0
lost Mt. St. Joe 2-0
lost Carthage 2-0
Non conf. opponet records 7-0

AU 2-1
beat Lake Forest 0-3
beat MacMurray 0-3
lost IWU 3-0
Non conf. opponet records 3-6

BU 1-2
lost Elmhurst 2-0
lost NCC 1-1
beat NPU 1-2
Non conference opponets record 4-3

WLC 1-2
lost NW-MN 1-2
lost Luther 1-2
beat St.Scholastica 1-2
Non conference opponents record 3-6

RC 0-3
lost Dubuque 1-2
lost Kalamazoo 2-1
lost Alma 2-1
Non Conference opponents record 5-4


What does all of this mean? Probably not much when it comes to who is going to win the NAC. Some schools played a blistering non conference schudle and others went for the wins. I am not judging which one is right.

I think CUW and LC scheduled a buzz saw for non conf. Didn't do much for the coaches W/L record. BU and RC opponets have a winning record as of this date also.

Nothing beats winning and I applaud the CUC Cougars who are undefeated and ready to take on WLC and the rest of the league.

Sorry to bore everyone with the info but it was a bit surprising to see. Look forward to everyones picks next week.


I like the statistics--they provide all the back-up you needed to make your point.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 23, 2009, 02:05:24 PM
baseman201

good points.  I would agree too that CUC has improved, but I also think that they probably will finish 4th in the NAC at best.  But I guess we'll have to wait and see.  Maybe they finally put a good team together.  Remember, they did upset Lakeland last year
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sotha sil on September 24, 2009, 05:18:24 AM
CUW......man, what was being built seems to be gone...a great D-Cord, def. the best in conference gets moved to O???  The big plays are gone, the defense, you can't play man coverage strickly if all you have is cocky boys...seems like the team spent more time worrying about number of players and sponsors than talent and scheme...there are connections to talent in the south and out west that have just been cut off due to what can only be pride, plus look at the facilities going to waste...i really hope we don't lose the stadium because "the changing of the guard" keeps his little man complex
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tm343407 on October 01, 2009, 12:13:13 AM
Pretty quiet on here for the start of conference play
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 01, 2009, 09:31:45 AM
The Season begins on Sat. Some Great matchups for week 1. Looks like the weather may be a factor as rain is in the forecast with Temps in the 50's. You got to love fall and football.

Guesses this week;

AU at BU- Tough Defensive game with BU winning 10-7 (maybe overtime again).

CUC at WLC- another tough game to call CUC is 3-0. High scoring 51-48 OT CUC wins.

CUW at MBBC- Ouch this one hurts CUW big 52-0

LC at RC- RC almost pulled it out last year. LC overcomes this year 38-14.

Good luck to everyones team this week. I will catch the AU/BU game but would love to saee the game at WLC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 01, 2009, 05:20:42 PM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Aurora

Concordia-Chicago (even though it's WLC's Homecoming-the Warrior pass defense will be put to a real test-and this year the Cougars are already on a hot run)

Concordia-WI

Lakeland



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: muzzman on October 01, 2009, 07:29:02 PM
AU had a good week of practice from what I hear, after a lackidazical (Ronnie-ism)showing at IWU they come ready to play

Rockford is not up to their usual running game LC takes this

Larry Hariel runs the ball well and CUC has yet to stop a good rushing team I like WLC

CUW over MBBC even though MBBC will show up for the first half they just lack the depth
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 02, 2009, 03:31:54 PM
Picks for the week:

AU over BU - Coach Duncan won't let the Spartans loose to BU again.  AU in a close one

WLC over CUC - Close game but the warriors take it

CUW over MBBC- MBBC shows up but that's about it

LC over RC- RC is pretty bad and LC will definitely take advantage
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 03, 2009, 06:05:48 PM
Finals:  WLC 27, Concordia-Chicago 16
                 (That distant chomping you hear is WLCALUM83 eating his crow--with a smile!)

            Lakeland 40, Rockford 0
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 04, 2009, 12:27:15 PM
Wow, 16 pts, WLC shut down the run and Marotta threw 4 INTs, ouch.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 05, 2009, 11:16:51 AM
I caught the AU and BU game. Congrats to Coach Cooper and his BU Eagles. This is the 4th. time I have seen these 2 teams play and thought they looked the best since he has been there. Good hard fought game.

I thought AU struggled with their Defense especially on the line.  I thought the AU Defense would completely shut down the BU Offense. They will have to improve. AU will bounce back and get CUW in 2 weeks. Should be another Gret game.

Looks like WLC is going to be tough to beat. They have a big time receiver with a very good running game. They should roll till their mathc with CUW.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 07, 2009, 08:52:43 PM
Guesses for this week OCt. 10

MBBC at AU- AU rebounds strongly 46-12.

RC at CUC- CUC rebounds 56-13

BU at CUW- Game of the week, BU always plays them tough. CUW eeks out win 21-20 OT

WLC at LC- Very close game. WLC has 2 very good RB's, a great receiver maybe the best in the league and a very good QB. WLC28-LC27.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 08, 2009, 09:12:54 PM
WLCALUM83's 10/10 guesses:

Aurora
Concordia-Chicago
Concordia-WI in tight one
Lakeland--(could look like a "trap" game for WLC-potential to be an interesting battle, but I don't expect the Muskies to lose their Homecoming game.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 09, 2009, 08:52:57 AM
Picks for the week:

AU all over MBBC

CUC lights up the scoreboard on RC

BU upsets CUW

WLC ruins LC's homecoming
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 10, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
44-9 CUC all over RC,

Marotta tears it up through the air again,

what were some other scores?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 13, 2009, 03:24:46 PM
Intersting area to check out. The strength of schedule area. Through 5 games. CUW is based on 4 because of the Valpo game 1AA(not a region game)

SCHOOL     RECORD        OPP.WIN%     OPP.OPP.WIN%
CUC              4-1                .250                 .478
AU                3-2                 .240                .516
CUW             2-2*              .525                 .434
LC                 2-3                .633                 .479
WLC              2-3                .550                 .393
BU                 2-3                .517                 .448
RC                 0-5                .423                 .387
MBBC            0-5                 .387                 .373

I don't know exactly what all this says other than some of the NAC teams played schools that have good records and some schools played some teams with poor win %. I see AU's opp. opp. have a good winning %, the best of any of the other schools opp. opp. win %.
     
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: OldMan-IBFC5146 on October 14, 2009, 11:12:22 AM
Glad to be on here finally.  So were at the half way point and we see CUC at the top of the mountain.  Well do not worry because the second half will prove that this conference has changed, but not as much as it looks like. Here are my predictions for how the season will end.

1.  CUW 7-3(7-0)  No one is beating these guys in the NAC.  Did I mention one of those losses is to a D-1A school in Valpo by only 3 points?  This team is going to absolutley going to crush everyone but LC.  Benedictine was a fluke.  Once again they will win out.  Cream of the Crop.
2.  Lakeland 6-4(6-1)  Only loss will be to CUW.  Their offense seems to be clicking on all cylinders and the defense looks just as good, if not better than the team we saw after the fluke CUC upset last year.  A solid team that will crush everyone but the Falcons.
3.  Benedictine 6-4(5-2)  A very good football team, not pretenders like CUC.  Huge win against AU will pay dividends.  Cooper has done a nice job getting numbers and some really good players to make their physical style of play a moderate success in the NAC.
4.  Aurora 6-4(4-3) The BU game will hurt them, but so will LC and CUW.  A good team but not dominate by any means.  The Aurora we are used to seeing, that big nasty physical team, is just not there anymore and it will show.
5.  WLC 4-6(3-4)  Not a bad team at all, but still with the bottom feeders of the NAC.  A very good running game and a fairl good defense should keep them in a few contests, but they still have a way to go before they can be considered contenders.
6.  CUC 5-5(3-4)  A team that should probably be undefeated right now, CUC goes back to form the 2nd half.  The cupcake schedule they had will be exposed the last half of the season, along with their undersized defense and shaky, undiscipline offense, as we saw against WLC.  This is not the same old CU, but it is not the real deal just yet.
7.  Maranatha 1-9(1-6) I have no idea who to pick for the bottom of the barrel, but from what I hear and read Rockford is about as bad as it gets.  Keep in mind the date, 11-7-09 because Rockford and MBBC square off that day in the NAC's version of the Toilet Bowl.
8.  Rockford  0-10(0-7)  No offense.  No Defense.  No chance.

Hopefully this board gets going again.  It has been kind of dead as of late.  I have been reading this thing for about 6 years now and always had wanted to get in on the discussion.  Hope to hear back from some of you guys.



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: OldMan-IBFC5146 on October 14, 2009, 02:32:30 PM
WEEK 7 PICKS

BU v MBBC
The Eagles run all over Maranatha all day.  42-7

CUW v AU
The Falcons play a close one for a while but pull away late in the game.  28-13

WLC v RC
The Warriors do anything they want against the Regents.  56-7

CUC v LC
The Muskies avenge last year and more as the dominate the Cougars.  42-14

With the exception the CUW/AU game it could be a pretty boring week of football in the NAC.  The only game I admit I could be wrong about is CUC, but I just dont see a young, small, and weak CUC team sneaking up on Lakeland again.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 14, 2009, 07:30:09 PM
IBFC5146

Welcome to the board. Must be a former CUW player. The Falcons have certainly been a very consistent good team in the last 10 years.

I thought you were right on with some of your comments. I don't know if anyone will go 7-0 this year. Maybe a 3 way tie like 2004. CUW will be very dangerous and I like their chances. If they win this week, I agree that they will coast the rest of the season.

IMO, AU has not come on like I thought they would. They are missing the QB they had last year along with some other very key players on both sides of the ball. BU is really improved from what I saw at the AU game and was very impressed, I think they will win out and finish in 2nd. Don't know much about the LC group and no one on the board ever comments on them. WLC will sneak up on someone this year if you are not ready for them.

You might be a bit too critical on CUC. I say give them a chance. They are 4-1 and we will see how they handle CUW, AU and LC. I think they will get LC worse than last year. but will get pounded by AU and CUW.

Again welcome and look forward to your continued observations. Good Luck to your CUW Falcons this week. Predictions later.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 14, 2009, 07:37:26 PM
Congrats to the CUC Cougars.

Nice article on the Around the Region-Midwest. Sounds like they are on the march to the championship. Their offense is racking up points and yards on everyone. Looks like no one has stopped them or figured them out, the stats are quite impressive. They mentioned that their defense has found a stopper in their NT with their two ILB. Sounds like its their year.

Great for a NAC team to get some print for a feature article. Check it out.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 15, 2009, 02:18:33 PM
Picks for the week:

BU kills MBBC

AU squeaks by CUW in a great game

RC is terrible.  WLC destroys them

LC over CUC
I've watched CUC be a really bad team for too many years to buy into the cougar hype yet
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 15, 2009, 06:23:09 PM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Benedictine
Aurora
WLC
Lakeland
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 15, 2009, 07:15:05 PM
Guesses for this week;

AU at CUW; The game of the week. Defense anyone. AU wins in OT 20-17

WLC at RC; WLC buries Rockford 38-7

CUC at LC; Does Cougar magic work again this year? They are on a roll. CUC wins 52-48 on last second screen pass.

MBBC at BU. BU in a romp 48-6.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: JRicks16 on October 17, 2009, 01:38:34 AM
Tomorrow should tell us alot in this conference.

I say AU in a tight one
WLC in an easy one
And CUC shows they are for real tomorrow
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 17, 2009, 03:21:38 PM
LC-      25
CUC-    22

2 minutes to Half.


The Game has been marred by turnovers by CUC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 17, 2009, 03:32:53 PM
Lakeland 32, CUC 21.  Halftime.


Scoring Drives Thus Far:

FG= Lakeland, 3-0
TD= Lakeland, PAT Fail 9-0
TD= CUC, Long 73yd pass. 9-6
TD= Lakeland, TD Pass. 16-7
TD= CUC, TD Pass. 16-14
Safety= CUC ball snapped through endzone. 18-14
INT TD= Lakeland, Brandon Wolff for 41 yards. 25-14
TD= CUC, TD RUn. 25-21
TD= Lakeland, TD Pass. 32-21

Stats:

Lakeland, 218 total yards (134 Passing)
CUC, 225 total yards (209 passing)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fijidoc on October 17, 2009, 03:35:16 PM
you have to be kidding me.  offsides on kickoff. then 53 yard return for Witt
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 17, 2009, 04:05:05 PM
Lakeland fumbles opening drive of 2nd half on the CUC 7 yard line.  CUC drives and scores.


Lakeland 32 - 28
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 17, 2009, 04:20:15 PM
CUC grabs the lead with a 11 play drive.  35-32.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 17, 2009, 04:59:31 PM
Holy crap this thing is a shootout,

thanks for the updates, hopefully CUC can pull it off.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 17, 2009, 05:00:59 PM
NAthCon Final just in:

WLC 40, Rockford 14

WLC --Shaw 4 passing TD's in win. Warriors back to .500 overall on the year.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 17, 2009, 05:13:09 PM
CUC holds Lakeland scoreless in the second half and pulls out a win in Sheboygan 41-32.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 17, 2009, 05:21:46 PM
An Aurora win over Concordia-WI and a Benedictine win over Maranatha and with the other results, there could be a 6-way tie for 1st in the conference.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 17, 2009, 05:41:11 PM
With all the picks I saw it go about 50/50 for CUC vs. Lakeland, with someone picking Lakeland 42-14,

I guess everyone is still used to the old CUC not giving them any chance,

New CUC this year though, AU and CUW can't cake walk through them anymore.

I wish they played better against WLC, 6-0 would look pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 17, 2009, 07:15:43 PM
Sorry I Couldn't keep you guys updated on the end of the game for LC and CUC.  I was having trouble accessing the boards and I kind of forgot about it.  Whoops.  But yes 41-32.  20 unanswered pts in the 2nd half by CUC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 17, 2009, 08:02:22 PM
Two more finals:

Benedictine 32, Maranatha 6

Concordia-WI 24, Aurora 21  (So much for my 6 way 1st place tie scenario)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 18, 2009, 10:31:25 AM
I saw the AU vs CUW game. Good game for CUW. Their Defense played well all day. AU had chances but the offense could not get ahead. CUW has a great FG kicker. He has a lot of range.

Looks like CUC is for real they handled LC according to the score and stats. Over 400 yards passing. This should be an interesting finish to the league. I think WLC may have a say in who wins it. CUW is in the driver seat. Their Offense will have to step up to win out.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: OldMan-IBFC5146 on October 18, 2009, 11:59:35 AM
WOW.  In what I thought would be an otherwise uninteresting week there were two great games.  I am not sure to think of AU, CUW, or BU.  Is CUW and BU that good or is AU down or is it a bit of both.  And CUC, here is a team that I thought would win 1 game in the second half.  They certainly proved me wrong.  Their QB had himself another day it looked like according to the stats.  Regardless of whether or not LC is up or down, CUC has thrown a wrench into what looks now to be a very even and open NAC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 19, 2009, 02:17:29 PM
OldMan-IBFC5146

I think it's a little of both...AU is pretty young this year and I think some other teams caught up to them a little bit.....I heard the refs at CUW were horrendous....not an excuse but that sure doesn't help....the rule book was even pulled out on them hahahahaha...either way, this conference is going to be anybody's all the way up till the end
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on October 20, 2009, 05:56:30 PM
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/136705861

If only there was a way the WIAC can avoid this...like scheduling some non-conference schools near by to save costs.......   ;)      :P      ;D

map (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/NCAA_Division_3_football_map.gif)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tm343407 on October 20, 2009, 08:27:27 PM
The WIAC has put themselves in that position. How many other state schools play in D-III?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on October 20, 2009, 08:34:54 PM
Quote from: tm343407 on October 20, 2009, 08:27:27 PM
The WIAC has put themselves in that position. How many other state schools play in D-III?

there's a total of 4 conferences that have DIII football programs in WI and northern IL
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2009, 09:33:36 PM
Quote from: tm343407 on October 20, 2009, 08:27:27 PM
The WIAC has put themselves in that position. How many other state schools play in D-III?

25% of Division III is state schools, tm343407.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tm343407 on October 20, 2009, 10:43:43 PM
Pat,

I obviously didn't know that. Are they as large as the WIAC schools?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 20, 2009, 10:50:11 PM
Quote from: tm343407 on October 20, 2009, 10:43:43 PM
Pat,

I obviously didn't know that. Are they as large as the WIAC schools?

Some bigger, probably most smaller.  But none of the WIAC schools are anywhere near as large as NYU (private, d3).

But unless you think football teams are assembled by open tryouts of the student body (ala those [diminishly few] high schools who don't recruit), how is enrollment relevant to football success?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tm343407 on October 20, 2009, 11:12:23 PM
Enrollment is very relevant as it typically improves the budget with which to recruit, hire more full-time coaches, better facilities, better equipment, etc.

With regards to the WIAC specifically: aside for UW-Madison, there are not D-1, 1AA, 2, or NAIA schools in Wisconsin. States schools are typically cheaper so that is a large part in the WIAC's success.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2009, 11:16:08 PM
Subscribers to Kickoff learned who had the Top 10 operating budgets from the 2007 season. None was a state school.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tm343407 on October 21, 2009, 12:12:44 AM
Well that shut me up.   :-X

I'm not quite sure who the other states schools are other that the SUNY. I guess the fact that there is no place other than UW-Madison for Wisconsin kids to go to stay in state really has that much of an impact. I would have attributed a lot of it to larger budgets.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 21, 2009, 08:19:44 AM
Seeing as NAthCon's got an early game on the docket this weekend, I'll start off by giving my guesses:

10/22:  Concordia over WLC  (Falcons have had WLC's number)

10/24:  Aurora over Rockford
             Concordia-Chicago big over Maranatha
             Benedictine over Lakeland in a tight one. (IL Eagles are at home.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 21, 2009, 02:22:57 PM
Picks for the week:

CUW over WLC:  close for a little bit put CUW pulls away

AU rolls RC:  combination of Rockford being really bad and the Spartans needing to get back on track

CUC over MBBC:  still not 100% sold on CUC and this game shouldn't help too much but Maranatha is terrible

LC over BU:  close game but the muskies win it late
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 21, 2009, 03:18:36 PM
Early Game this week with a Thursday Game "The Lutheran Bowl" and I think the game of the week. I see its on TV. Good for the NAC to get some exposure. I think I will go up and check the game out.


CUW at WLC- CUW is getting stronger but I beleive WLC has weapons that will cause CUW trouble. WLC in a close game 19-17. Field Goals will be a factor.

MBBC at CUC- Ouch! CUC wins Big 62-6

LC at BU- BU stays in the hunt, LC is apparently poor on pass defense (CUC 411 yds) and the offense is choked down with turnovers. BU 24-6

RC at AU- AU gets back to winning. They still have a chance if they win out. and get some help and some of the teams get 2 losses.. AU 42-12 .

I think BU,CUC and WLC have their destiny in their hands by winning out. IMHO I think they can. Looks like RC, MBBC, LC and AU are out of it at this time. This week will tell us alot about the last 3 weeks. Good Luck to everyone's team this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 21, 2009, 05:01:16 PM
Tm343407
02Warhawk

Read your post about the WIAC scheduling problems. IIMHO the NAC schools have their hands full by scheduling teams in the CCIW and Midwest Conference. The NAC only has a few wins in the last 5 years against CCIW teams. They play the top, middle and bottom of the CCIW teams and still have little success. Travel is close for the NAC teams so its a good fit. I hope the NAC continues to schedule CCIW (Great competition) and gets everyone ready for the NAC. The WIAC is to big a chunk to bite off. They have some major advantages. Facilities (tax $ at work) and low tuitition are two biggies. These are huge hurdles  for NAC schools to overcome.

The WIAC is in a tough predictament. Maybe they look to play D-2 State schools in Minnesota  or NAIA schools in IL. (St. Xavier, St. Francis, Trinty Int. or Olivet Nazerine). These schools are close to some of the WIAC schools. Maybe do a conference round robin each year with each conferences  #1's play, #2's play and so forth down to the last place teams. Just a thought. Maybe its the Badger state versus the Golpher state challenge.

I also see some of the NAC schools scheduling some Midwest Conference schools, certainly no easy push overs there for the NAC.

One Mans opinion!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on October 21, 2009, 08:18:34 PM
I just have to say that I am proud of my AlmaMater.  It has been forever since the CU Cougars have been doing this well.  They are, by no means, out of the woods yet (Ben., CUW, AU left).

Great job, Coach Pries, Janowsky, staff and players!!  See you at the Ben. U. game.

Keep fighting!!  Good Luck!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 22, 2009, 12:34:30 AM
Lem-

Yeah, I am with you man, it takes awhile to build a good team, and CUC has been trying to build a good team for a LOOOOOONG time.  The turnaround started in 2007 (in my opinion) when Pries started some heavy recruiting, especially from Florida.  Won 3 games that year, 3 again in 2008, now 5 already in 2009.

Hopefully this season will get some even better recruits wanting to come in next year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on October 22, 2009, 03:01:14 PM
Here's the amusing stat of the week. CUC is currently ninth in all of Division III with 474 yards of offense per game. The team below them in tenth?

Mount Union.   ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on October 22, 2009, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: Look It Up on October 22, 2009, 03:01:14 PM
Here's the amusing stat of the week. CUC is currently ninth in all of Division III with 474 yards of offense per game. The team below them in tenth?

Mount Union.   ;D

+k for that!!  8)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 22, 2009, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: Look It Up on October 22, 2009, 03:01:14 PM
Here's the amusing stat of the week. CUC is currently ninth in all of Division III with 474 yards of offense per game. The team below them in tenth?

Mount Union.   ;D

Wow! A NAthCon squad actually ahead of the D3 champs in something????

Those thuds and tremors we're feeling are Pat and K-Mack keeling over and the earth quaking beneath them!! :D :D :D

Seriously, it'll be nice to keep that stat in mind, even if CUC falls below Mount Union in a few days.  :-X
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 22, 2009, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 22, 2009, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: Look It Up on October 22, 2009, 03:01:14 PM
Here's the amusing stat of the week. CUC is currently ninth in all of Division III with 474 yards of offense per game. The team below them in tenth?

Mount Union.   ;D

Those thuds and tremors we're feeling are Pat and K-Mack keeling over and the earth quaking beneath them!! :D :D :D

Seriously, it'll be nice to keep that stat in mind, even if CUC falls below Mount Union in a few days.  :-X

Actually, with the simultaneous graduation of Michelli and Kmic, MUC's defense was expected to have to 'carry' the offense, at least early in the season.  I'm guessing Mount fans are pleasantly surprised to be as high as 10th (and doubt that Pat and Keith are in a state of shock! ;D

Still, I understand the pleasure in leading MUC in anything football-related!  While CCIW teams have probably led them in something, it has been way too long since we led them on the scoreboard! ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 22, 2009, 03:48:02 PM
. . . CUC and Mt. Union in same post . . . . . . . . . .can't . . . breathe . . .
walls closing in . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . feeling dizzy  :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 23, 2009, 08:42:19 AM
First, I would like to agree that CUC is having a pretty good year so far......but you also have to take a look at who they have played.....Their 5 opponents who they have beaten this year have a combined 7 wins (and there opponent this week is MBBC who has 0 wins).....Yes they are much improved from years past, but are they really that good or are they just finally beating teams that are worse then them....having seen CUC play the last four years, I would have to say the first is true....I'm not trying to talk crap, I am just pointing out a few things that I've noticed....I think the NAC will come down to the final week.....it should be exciting
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 23, 2009, 08:47:28 AM
Congrats to CUW. They remain atop of the NAC by themselves. I saw the game last night. Cold and rainey. WLC did a good job running the ball over 150 yards but could not score. Their red zone offense killed them as did the turnover (pick). The CUW FG kicker is the real deal. The best I have seen in the last few years. Warm ups he was hitting 40-45 yd. FG's with room to spare.  CUW will have to work on their Offense a bit as they get used to their new QB. I don't think anyone but CUC has a chance to beat them.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 23, 2009, 11:52:23 AM
What is the background of the CUW-WLC game being played on a Thursday night? Is that a long-standing tradition or a one-time event? And forgive me for not looking this up on my own, but do either WLC or CUW have lights or did they play at a neutral venue that has lights?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 23, 2009, 01:00:23 PM
Yeah, that is a crazy stat for CUC, the have a pretty good offense, too bad they didn't show up against WLC.

Their offense isn't a problem, it's the defense I am worried about stopping BU, CUW and AU, will all be tough games.

Marotta is also 3rd in the nation for passing yards.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NuTS on October 23, 2009, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 23, 2009, 11:52:23 AM
What is the background of the CUW-WLC game being played on a Thursday night? Is that a long-standing tradition or a one-time event? And forgive me for not looking this up on my own, but do either WLC or CUW have lights or did they play at a neutral venue that has lights?

This game has been dubbed the Lutheran Bowl as of late, between cross town Lutheran Colleges.  It hasn't been a big deal until last year.  This year's game was also televised by the local cable sports network.  I'm sure that had something to do with it so that they both could gain some Milwaukee area exposure.  Milwaukee Lutheran has a beautiful field with lights.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 24, 2009, 02:19:57 PM
Lakeland 7 BU 0

Long TD pass (81yards) to start the 1st qt.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 24, 2009, 02:50:52 PM
LC 7 BU 6

BU returned INT for TD.  Blocked PAT by Keith Woodson. 7 - 6
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 24, 2009, 03:02:25 PM
LC 14 - BU 6

Another LC TD Pass.  44 yards with 2 minutes til Half.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 24, 2009, 03:13:20 PM
Just got a text that CUC is up over Maranatha 41-0 at the half......ouch.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 24, 2009, 03:14:50 PM
Roberto Flores scores his 3rd TD of the first half as LC leads 21-6 at Halftime.


CUC has one explosive offense that is for sure!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 24, 2009, 03:19:26 PM
Some stats:


Flores 168 yards, 3tds

LC: 261 passing yards, -3 rushing yards

BU: held to just 38 yards in the first half


Lets see if last week doesn't repeat itself by LC's defense falling asleep in the second half.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 24, 2009, 03:55:15 PM
Another TD pass by LC. 28-6

LC then forced a safety. 30 - 6
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 24, 2009, 04:39:23 PM
Final:

CUC - 64
Maranatha - 14

Even bigger ouch.....
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 24, 2009, 05:37:14 PM
Lakeland 30 BU 14.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 24, 2009, 05:47:52 PM
Congrats to LC on the win over BU, any other scores?

Looks like CUC didn't really need to air it out today, did it all on the ground with Copeland.  Although Marotta did throw for 271 yds and a couple scores.

The more I look at it, the more I believe CUC can go 9-1 this year and possibly make the playoffs..........and you thought Mount Union and CUC in the same sentence was weird........
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 24, 2009, 07:51:29 PM
Aurora over Rockford 37-0 (Per Rockford box score, Aurora used a 24-pt 4th Qrtr to seal this one.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 26, 2009, 11:33:03 AM
CUC-CUW this Saturday.
They've been playing football at CUC (RF) for a LONGGGG time. (My dad played leather-helmet football there back in the 30's) Might this be the biggest/most important game they've played in . . . how long? I think they won a conference title back in the 80's  - so say the last 20 years? 40 years? I need a person who knows CUC football history here.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on October 26, 2009, 02:55:49 PM
RF, you'd probably be looking back to 1987 (which is also the last time that CUC/CURF beat CUW. The Cougars were 7-1 that year, going into the final game of the season at home against (then) Illinois Benedictine. The Cougars took the lead on a Marty Redlawsk TD reception, but IBC came back with a long drive to score with just under two minutes left and win by a 27-26 score.
An 8-1 record might have put the Cougars into the playoffs that year (I don't recall the criteria back then, and there was no automatic qualifier), but it became a moot point with the loss to IBC. Certainly, this week's game won't put the Cougars into the playoffs - they still have Aurora and Benedictine afterwards - but a win this week would be a few steps above HUGE for the program.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 26, 2009, 05:18:18 PM
Look It Up:
Thanks for the info! I have a colleague whom I believe may have played on that '87 team. I'll have to look him up and ask him about it.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 26, 2009, 09:34:15 PM
Yeah, one of our coaches in 04-05 played WR on that 87 team I think.  Played a few games for a Bears as well.

If CUC can beat CUW then I think they have a HUGE chance of making the playoffs this year, but you are right, AU and BU are looming after this weekend. 

But, first things first, win this weekend or no playoffs at all.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 29, 2009, 05:52:40 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses for this weekend:

WLC
Concordia-Chicago
Lakeland
Benedictine
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 29, 2009, 10:23:17 AM
I am really looking forward to the Clash of the Concordias (first time that description has probably been used in a long time) in the NAC this weekend. 

CUC arguably has the best offense in the conference, especially when they are clicking. 

With CUW's "big play" defense it looks to be an interesting matchup.  Although many times when you are a "big play" defense that means you also give up big plays, which is what CUC is good at.

CUW will have to control the ball to win this one I beleive.

Good luck to all this weekend!

Can't wait, should be a good game. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 29, 2009, 11:24:40 AM
Falcons Football, I like the "Clash of the Concordia's". Good moniker.

This weeks guess's

BU @RC- Ouch! BU rebounds with a big win. 32-6

MBBC@LC- Ouch! MBBC played LC close last year but will fight hard and lose 42-0.

AU@WLC- Big Game for both teams. IMHO it will be a defensive tussle 19-17 WLC.

CUW@CUC- "Game of the WEEK" CUC can't lose and be champs. CUW needs this to reclaim their usuall position. Great Game of CUW Defense and CUC Offense. CUW's FG kicker is the difference maker. CUW over CUC in multiple OT's 42-39.

Good Luck to everyone's team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 29, 2009, 02:17:07 PM
PICKS FOR THE WEEK

BU vs RC:  RC is simply terrible.  BU wins big

MBBC vs LC:  Over at half.  LC wins big

AU vs WLC:  Huge game for both teams.  AU plays good D and wins a close one

CUW vs CUC:  I guess this is one of games that tells us if CUC is for real or not.  I'm not jumping on their band wagon yet.  CUW wins with defense
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 30, 2009, 10:55:27 AM
Is WLC's starting QB back this week?

I think AU's defense will have to win this one for them, I thought their offense looked pretty sloppy and unorganized the few times I have seen them play.  They looked much better last year. 

If WLC's QB is playing I think they will keep this one close until the end but won't be able to pull it off. 

Should be a great game though.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 31, 2009, 02:14:14 PM
Lakeland vs. Maranatha

LC scores early.  TD pass.  6-0 as Extra Pt failed.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 31, 2009, 03:03:03 PM
Lakeland Scores with 25 seconds of the half remaining. 


13-0
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ausid on October 31, 2009, 03:43:44 PM
Halftime scores from around the NAC

@Wisconsin Lutheran 27
Aurora 0

Benedictine 18
@Rockford 0

@Lakeland  13
Maranatha  0


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 31, 2009, 03:49:42 PM
Benedictine has gone up 25-0 on Rockford early in the 4th (fumble recovery-return for TD).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 31, 2009, 03:54:28 PM
Benedictine 32, Rockford 0  4th, (another Regent turnover, another IL Eagle score a few plays later)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 31, 2009, 04:17:10 PM
Final:  Benedictine 32, Rockford 6
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 31, 2009, 04:21:06 PM
CUC 14, CUW 7, Approx. 10 min left in 4th
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 31, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
CUC-14
CUW-7

3:30 left to play

Falcon ball
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on October 31, 2009, 05:02:15 PM
Final: Lakeland 19 Maranatha 0
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 31, 2009, 05:15:43 PM
Final:  CUC 22, CUW 21  2 OT
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: boneman12 on October 31, 2009, 05:25:50 PM
COUGARS GO FOR 2 TO WIN THE GAME! THE SWEET TASTE OF VICTORY!

7-1 GO COUGS!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 31, 2009, 05:26:43 PM
AWESOME win by CUC, I think they are proving to be the best team in the conference,

Just AU and BU left.......

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 31, 2009, 06:24:29 PM
Final, per WLC website:

WLC 34, Aurora 7  :) ;) :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 31, 2009, 06:39:14 PM
So much for AU being unanimous favorites to win the NAC as voted on before the season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 31, 2009, 08:07:48 PM
Does anyone know what happened to Aurora? Injuries? Are some people not playing that should be? They have really been a disappointment.

Congrats to CUC on a really big win! All they have to do is win out and they are headed to the playoffs
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on October 31, 2009, 11:26:17 PM
Here is all you need to know about AU today.

6 INTS, 3 Fumbles and a blocked punt!!!

You are NEVER going to win doing that!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 01, 2009, 12:19:49 AM
au dad--

Believe me, WLC can relate, the Warrior's earlier home game against Concordia-WI WLC was the team committing the turnovers!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on November 01, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
WLC--

Please don't take that as a slam on WLC. When a team turns it over that much, you have to capitalize to win. WLC did and deserves all the credit for causing all those turnovers...and AU deserves all the BLAME!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 01, 2009, 07:30:42 PM
No offense taken.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tm343407 on November 01, 2009, 10:23:25 PM
Btw Pat,

Concordia (IL) scored the two-point conversion in the second overtime to win the game. On the front page, it says it was in the first overtime.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: OldMan-IBFC5146 on November 02, 2009, 12:44:20 PM
Wow, I must say I am impressed.  I certainly was shocked when I heard CUC beat CUW, in 2OT no less.  What a gutsy call to go for 2, but it paid off.  Congrats to CUC on the huge win.  I was equally impressed by the performance of WLC against AU.  The conference is certainly turning around and becoming more evenly matched.  I look forward to seeing what happens in the coming weeks.  It looks as if the conference is CUC's for the taking.  I will be most interested to see how a team that has never been on top responds to the challenges of two pretty decent teams that could play spoilers in the hunt for the NAC title.  Good luck in the coming weeks to all of the teams.

MY PICKS-WEEK 9
WLC over BU:  WLC's defensive front shuts down the BU run game and propels them to a close win.  27-21
RC over MBBC:  RC's defense is the difference in a close one between these two struggling clubs.  21-14
CUW over LC:  CUW rebounds after a heartbreaker and shuts down their rivals from the north.  24-14
AU over CUC:  This will not be a popular pick, but going to AU after the tough game could be a trap for CUC.  31-28

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on November 02, 2009, 02:12:51 PM
Quote from: fishguy on October 31, 2009, 08:07:48 PM
Does anyone know what happened to Aurora? Injuries? Are some people not playing that should be? They have really been a disappointment.

Congrats to CUC on a really big win! All they have to do is win out and they are headed to the playoffs

AU lost a lot of key players for their NAC championship a year ago....mostly on the line....and you are not going to win a ton of games if you can't run the ball or protect the qb....and of course 10 turnovers in one game is impossible to win behind
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 02, 2009, 04:33:42 PM
Congrats to CUC, from what I have seen it was the game of the season so far. Your 2 wins from the playoffs.

Also congrats to WLC in their stunner against AU. I was at the game and came away saying this team has really improved over the last 3 years. IMHO they have the 2nd best QB in the NAC and only a freshman. Their running game was a good 1-2 punch.

AU can't make those errors and be in any game. I know they lost some linemen but they should be able to reload as they have had good recruiting classes the last 3 years. They have 2 good RB's. Looks like they have not found out how to use them. Someone needs to coach the line up. If they figure it out they may be able to pull off a upset this week over CUC and win their last game over an average LC team. A team they hammered last year.

Old Man-IBFC5146

I think you may be right on the AU/CUC game. Could be an emotional let down for them and on AU Senior day could be a big boost for AU.

I also thinki CUW will handle LC this year as they only beat MBBC 19-0. CUW have their senior QB back and I think he is pretty good and does not make errors. I saw him against AU last year and he almost pulled the game out. He should be able to pass all over the LC secondary like the CUC team did.



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 03, 2009, 09:47:37 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

WLC:  (hopefully a bit more motivated, after Benedictine came back from 10 pts down on them last year).
Maranatha:
Concordia-WI;
Concordia-Chicago

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 04, 2009, 11:26:28 AM
So while walking the dog last night I was thinking about the possible "conference champion scenarios" that could play out in the NAC. Very simply, if CUC and CUW or Lakeland win out they tie for the conference championship and CUC (?) gets the AQ. But according to my late night brain, there are still a TON of possibilities! I believe that there are five teams realistically still in the hunt for at least a tie for the championship. I think I even figured out a way that there would be a four-way tie for first at the end of the year. (So I'm not even going to ask how the AQ gets figured out then.)

Should be an interesting two weeks.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 06, 2009, 08:03:07 AM
My Guesses for the week

RC &MBBC- MBBC in a close game 21-18

WLC &BU- WLC slips by by throwing the bal 28-24. BU shuts down the run.

CUW &LC- CUW wins cheese bowl 20-14. LC offense folds under pressure.

AU &CUC- AU surprises a flat CUC team on alast minute FG 31-28. AU needs to win out to gain respectability for the year.

Good Luck to everyones team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 07, 2009, 01:14:51 PM
Just got an update

CUC - 14
AU - 0

3 minutes into the game.......

Wow what a difference a year makes
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 07, 2009, 01:37:31 PM
CUC - 28
AU - 6
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on November 07, 2009, 02:36:41 PM
Half Time of the LC CUW game

23 LC to 13 CUW.



Sounds like LC's offense is firing lasers and CUW's Offense isn't doing enough to punch it in.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on November 07, 2009, 02:43:17 PM
Some Halftime stats:

LC total yards 226, CUW 111
LC Time of Possession 18:00, CUW 12:00
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on November 07, 2009, 03:42:57 PM
LC 30, CUW 13


After a scoreless 3rd Quarter LC FB Adam Miller punches the ball in for a 17 pt lead in the 4qt.   About 7 minutes left of the game!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on November 07, 2009, 03:48:58 PM
Lakeland 30, CUW 16.

4 minutes left
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: boneman12 on November 07, 2009, 04:37:14 PM
44-27  CUC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on November 07, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
Final:

LC vs. CUW

30 to 16


All important final week of the season.

Will there be an outright champ or co-champs?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 07, 2009, 05:06:07 PM
Final:  Benedictine 16, WLC 14  Ouch!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 07, 2009, 07:36:10 PM
One more game for CUC at BU, going to be a tough win.

CUC should have have a 3,000 yard passer, 1,000 yard rusher and a 1,000 yard receiver after next week.

awesome
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on November 07, 2009, 07:42:08 PM
Next week's game against BU will actually be at CUC. Still will be a tough one.

Regarding the 1,000 yard rusher, Copeland needs 118 (I believe) to reach that. But how about what he did today, setting the single-game, season and career rushing records ALL IN ONE GAME?! When's the last time a college runner did that?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 07, 2009, 09:12:24 PM
Ohhh, for Copeland I was looking at the gain column, not the "net".  He has gained 970, but when you add in losses, it's 882.

Either way, from what we have seen this year I think he can reach 1,000.

Good luck to CUC,

Anyone know what is the biggest turnaround for a team? 

CUC was 3-7 last year and now 8-1 and possible playoff appearance (with a win against BU), just wondering.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 07, 2009, 09:21:34 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 07, 2009, 09:12:24 PM
Ohhh, for Copeland I was looking at the gain column, not the "net".  He has gained 970, but when you add in losses, it's 882.

Either way, from what we have seen this year I think he can reach 1,000.

Good luck to CUC,

Anyone know what is the biggest turnaround for a team? 

CUC was 3-7 last year and now 8-1 and possible playoff appearance (with a win against BU), just wondering.

LaGrange started their program in 2006.  They went 0-10 in both 2006 and 2007.  In 2008 they went 9-1 in the regular season. :o

I don't guarantee that is the greatest ever turnaround, but it would be pretty hard to beat!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 08, 2009, 09:07:46 AM
Wow, that's probably the best you can do right?

Going winless and then making the playoffs?

Also, the NAC website really needs to change their football headline, really doesn't apply anymore.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: OldMan-IBFC5146 on November 08, 2009, 11:47:54 AM
Another saturday of unexpected football in the NAC.  I was looking at the stats for CUC/AU and CUC was up 28-6 after the 1st!  It got close though.  It looks like I was way way way off with my prediction for CUW as well.  That offense up in Mequon seems to be doing nothing.  A huge win for BU over WLC keeps them in the hunt and makes their game against CUC even bigger.  Being an old IBFC guy I can remember when these two teams would compete in the annual Toliet Bowl year after year, so what a great job by both programs on turning it around.  I know I should wait to make my predictions but this week has so many compelling issues to discus.
1.  Can CUC hold on to the lead in the NAC for their first playoff birth ever?
2.  Can BU's smashmouth style of football keep the CUC offense off the field long enough?
3.  Will LC take care of business against AU? (What is interesting about this senario is that if LC loses to AU, CUC loses to BU, and CUW takes down RC you will have 4 teams with 4-2 records in conference.  Talk about a mess)
It will be an interesting weekend for sure.
Just in case you were curious, if senario 3 (see above) does happen these would be the losses each team would have:
CUC:  WLC, BU
LC:  CUC, AU
BU:   LC, CUW
CUW:  CUC, LC
How you figure that tie-breaker out is beyond my pay grade.

WEEK10 PREDICTIONS
CUW over RC- CUW controls the game start to finish as expected.  45-0
WLC over MBBC- WLC crushes  MBBC and finishes a nice season with a big win. 52-6
LC over AU- LC keeps building on its big win against CUW nad takes it to a struggling AU team. 35-14
BU over CUC-Call me a pessimist, but I just wont believe it until it happens for CUC.  I think that BU will control the clock and the ball and come away with a close one. 27-24

Good luck to everyone on this final week of the season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on November 08, 2009, 03:31:29 PM
Quote from: OldMan-IBFC5146 on November 08, 2009, 11:47:54 AM
Another saturday of unexpected football in the NAC.  I was looking at the stats for CUC/AU and CUC was up 28-6 after the 1st!  It got close though.  It looks like I was way way way off with my prediction for CUW as well.  That offense up in Mequon seems to be doing nothing.  A huge win for BU over WLC keeps them in the hunt and makes their game against CUC even bigger.  Being an old IBFC guy I can remember when these two teams would compete in the annual Toliet Bowl year after year, so what a great job by both programs on turning it around.  I know I should wait to make my predictions but this week has so many compelling issues to discus.
1.  Can CUC hold on to the lead in the NAC for their first playoff birth ever?
2.  Can BU's smashmouth style of football keep the CUC offense off the field long enough?
3.  Will LC take care of business against AU? (What is interesting about this senario is that if LC loses to AU, CUC loses to BU, and CUW takes down RC you will have 4 teams with 4-2 records in conference.  Talk about a mess)
It will be an interesting weekend for sure.
Just in case you were curious, if senario 3 (see above) does happen these would be the losses each team would have:
CUC:  WLC, BU
LC:  CUC, AU
BU:   LC, CUW
CUW:  CUC, LC
How you figure that tie-breaker out is beyond my pay grade.

WEEK10 PREDICTIONS
CUW over RC- CUW controls the game start to finish as expected.  45-0
WLC over MBBC- WLC crushes  MBBC and finishes a nice season with a big win. 52-6
LC over AU- LC keeps building on its big win against CUW nad takes it to a struggling AU team. 35-14
BU over CUC-Call me a pessimist, but I just wont believe it until it happens for CUC.  I think that BU will control the clock and the ball and come away with a close one. 27-24

Good luck to everyone on this final week of the season.

I don't know what the conference tiebreakers are but for your nightmare scenario this what I would think would happen:

First you would be looking to eliminate anyone you can to try to get down to one team or even two teams (head-to-head). That being said here are the records amongst themselves:

CUC 2-1
LC 2-1
AC 1-2
CUW 1-2

That gives you two teams left with CUC and LC. Since CUC won the hth match-up CUC would get the bid. As I said I have no clue if this is really what they would do.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 09, 2009, 09:36:53 AM
Congrats to CUC for the big win. Also LC must be better than most think. I hope to see the AU Sparty's play them this week. AU destroyed LC last year. It was the best game I saw AU play all year.

Great job by BU  to beat a very good WLC team. It must of been a great game. BU can be dangerous because of their stout defense. They will have to play a very special game to beat CUC.

Nice to see that the NAC is getting some parity. I look for Rockford to recruit lights out the next couple of years and get back in the run. MBBC has more players this year than last and when I saw them at the AU game they played hard, just not enough athletes, but are improved as a team.

If CUC wins I wonder where they will go. Maybe to Trine or IWU. Any thoughts.

Good luck to all the league Seniors who play their last regular seson games this week. The AU Senior ceremony was very good this past week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on November 09, 2009, 03:28:47 PM
After watching the CUC/AU game on Saturday, I would have say that CUC is about 100% improved from last year.....on offense.....their defense is pretty bad.....I think their offense will carry them to the NAC championship but I think everyone knows they will get smoked by any team they play in the first round....I think they have had a good year and its nice to see teams getting better so the conference doesn't look like crap (compared to other conferences - i.e. CCIW), but is CUC a true national playoff team or are they just good enough to win the NAC in a down year for the conference?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 09, 2009, 06:31:28 PM
Quote from: dizzle52 on November 09, 2009, 03:28:47 PM
After watching the CUC/AU game on Saturday, I would have say that CUC is about 100% improved from last year.....on offense.....their defense is pretty bad.....I think their offense will carry them to the NAC championship but I think everyone knows they will get smoked by any team they play in the first round....I think they have had a good year and its nice to see teams getting better so the conference doesn't look like crap (compared to other conferences - i.e. CCIW), but is CUC a true national playoff team or are they just good enough to win the NAC in a down year for the conference?

First of all, I am looking forward to this weekend's games, especially CUC-Benedictine and Aurora-Lakeland. These are going to be hotly contested games because, frankly, there's a lot a stake.

As far as CUC getting smoked in a possible first round game (which Benedictine and Lakeland might make completely academic), well, let's face it - none of the current NAC teams have exactly fared very well in their first round playoff games  in the last 10 years. Other than a couple of fairly close Aurora losses, there's nothing closer than four touchdown deficits.

2008 - (3) Monmouth - 42         8 - Aurora - 13
2007 - (2) Bethel - 28             (7) CUW - 0
2006 - (6) North Central - 35   (3) CUW - 6
2005 - (3) Augustana - 49       (7) Lakeland - 22
2004 - Wooster - 41                  Aurora - 34
2003 - UW-LaCross - 52            CUW - 13
2000 - Wittenburg - 31              Aurora - 20

Will a NAC team do better this year? Realistically - probably not. But whoever makes it in to the playoffs will be a "national playoff team". They just won't be a national playoff contender. In addition, I would guess that the #1 seasonal goal of most NAC coaches would be met - win the conference and make the playoffs. (After looking at the participating playoff teams for the last 10 years, just making the playoffs is a huge goal for about 80% of the dIII teams in the nation.)

As far as the conference looking like crap, the first place to start making it look better is winning non-conference games. It's tough when you're scheduling traditionally tough competition as many NAC teams do. CUW's non-conference schedule, for example, looks brutal (Hats off the them!), whereas CUC's 2009 non-conference doesn't look all that difficult right now.  But when they scheduled Olivet two years ago Olivet was defending MIAA champ. And the CCIW, in my opinion, has a completely different set of factors making them the excellent set of conference schools that they are. But we aren't the CCIW. (A topic for a different time.)

I know that whichever coach gets their team into the playoffs will say, "We're not just satisfied being here. We're here to win".  But the school, the players, the fans, and the coaches for whomever is the conference representative will be pretty excited to be playing an 11th game no matter how bad an underdog they may be.

If CUC does make the playoffs, (and as a long-suffering CURF fan I certainly hope they do) the players aren't going to say 10 years from now, "We made the playoffs, but our defense was so bad and the conference was so weak that year that we really didn't deserve to make it." (They might, however, say, "We made the playoffs, and dang was Whitewater good!")

Good health to everybody this weekend, and seniors who are playing your last game of organized football - God's richest blessings to you.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 09, 2009, 06:57:36 PM
RFMichigan - excellent post!  +k

I fear you are right that their 'reward' for making the playoffs will be going to Whitewater. :P

[I always wondered about the RF if your moniker - now I understand.  My brother taught his entire career at Oak Park-River Forest HS (and lived for several years just a few blocks from CURF); small world!]
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 10, 2009, 02:32:20 PM
Dizzle -

Man, what school did you go to or what school are you going to now?

Seems like no matter what CUC does you always find a way to bash them in one way or another.

Your reasoning for CUC being good this year is because it is a down year for the conference.  Can't CUC be good because they have players sticking around for more than one year, the top 3 offensive weapons on CUC and pretty much in the NAC (Marotta, Copeland, Egebrecht) are all Juniors, have stuck around, and probably will be there again next year.

Maybe they are good because talented players realize they have been getting better little by little the past few years.

Just saying, I don't think CUC is where they are now because the NAC is having a down year.

I assume you are going to pick BU this week, but since CUC is my Alma Mater, I hope CUC wins big and makes the playoffs.

Sure they may play a team like Whitewater in the first round (if they win this week), even if they do get blown out, the point is they were there and having a good time doing it.

Good luck to all teams this weekend.  Depending on who wins and loses things could get a little messy as who will represent the NAC.  But hopefully CUC wins and makes it easy,  ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on November 11, 2009, 11:33:54 AM
After reading some of the posts here about the NAC, I feel that I need to add a couple of things. After being at all AU games this year, CUC is the best offense in the league that I have seen (With LC left to see). The best team I have seen this year is IWU in the CCIW. They are heads above anyone in the NAC. I feel bad that CUC is going to draw a tough opening round game. They will have a tough time beating a team like IWU or Whitewater.

As for what is up at AU, I'll post my thoughts after Saturday.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 11, 2009, 04:50:40 PM
I wouldn't necessarily say the conference is down this year.  I do believe that AU, CUW, and LC are not as good as they have been in the past few years.  However, the usual lower ranked teams have gotten better i.e. CUC, WLC.  BU was once very good as well; lately they have been kind of hovering around the middle, but are now back near the top. 

That being said, it is hard to say the conference is down when some of the traditionally weaker teams are getting better.  That makes for more parity, and hopefully a stronger overall conference in the future.  Just because some of the traditionally stronger teams are struggling doesn't mean everything is worse. 

Believe me, it is hard to watch CUW right now, but in the long run this is the best thing for the conference.  The more good teams there are, the more recruits each school will bring in, the stronger the conference overall. 

Good Luck, God Bless!

Seniors Make of the Most of this game!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 11, 2009, 07:47:11 PM
Congrats to Kyree Copland from CUC on being named to the "D3 Football Team of the Week". Not to many NAC players have received this honor. I sat through his record breaking day last week. I have not seen a back like him in the IBFC or NAC. Good Job.

Falcons Football

Great points, I agree 100%. CUW, AU and LC will continue to have to upgrade their recruiting or they will be passed certainly by BU, CUC and WLC each year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 12, 2009, 07:45:41 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Lakeland
Concordia-Chicago
Concordia-WI
WLC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on November 12, 2009, 02:17:31 PM
baseman201-

I definitely agree with you that CUC is a much improved team and a reason for that is they are an older team with experience and key players have come back for them.  But I have also watched CUC play the last five years or so, and I just can't believe that they are this much improved over one year.  Some teams they beat this year killed them last year (some by 40 or more points).  I don't really see that big of a turn-around just on veteran players coming back.  I just can't help to think that they also got a lot of help from LC, CUW, and AU not being on top of their game this year.

Maybe I am wrong.  Who knows.  Congrats to them on a well played year so far and I do hope they represent the NAC well in the playoffs (assuming they win Saturday).

One last thing.  This weekend:  Way too much offense for the Eagles.  CUC lights up BU.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 12, 2009, 05:03:54 PM
My Guesses for the last week of the regular season;

CUW@RC- Ouch, CUW wins big 56-6

AU@LC- Last year AU hammered them, this year will be close AU28- LC27

MBBC@WLC- Ouch, WLC wins big and shuts down MBBC 52-0

BU @CUC- Closer game than many think. BU shuts the run but can't handle the pass- CUC 32-21

Good Luck to everyones team and Congrats to all the NAC Seniors. It has been Great watching you preform. Good Luck in your life's endeavors.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 13, 2009, 12:11:55 AM
Dizzle-

Fair enough, I have been watching CUC for a LONG time as well so I understand your reasoning.  I know someone mentioned LaGrange and the turnaround they had, so it can happen.

Monmouth was 2-8 in 1999, 3-7 in 2000, then 8-2 in 2001 and they haven't looked back since.  Now granted Monmouth is an awesome football team, but still the similarities are there.  Even Whitewater was 3-7 and then 5-5 for 3 years before dominating.  CUC was 3-7 in 2007, 3-7 in 2008 and now 8-1.  The more you win the more quality recruits come in as they want to win too.  CUC has been at the bottom it seems since 1985, new coaches (that stick around) and recruits (that stick around) can go a long way to being succesful, just takes a while to build, it seems CUC is starting to build a quality program.

My picks are the same as Old 40, so it will save me some typing time,  ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 14, 2009, 03:30:46 PM
NAthCon updates:

Concordia-WI 38, Rockford 0  --less than 5 minutes left

Lakeland 28, Aurora 0  --less than 6 minutes left

Benedictine 15, Concordia-Chicago 14  --about 3 minutes left in 3rd.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 14, 2009, 05:39:30 PM
Final:  WLC 49, Maranatha Baptist 6
               (Stats indicate Crusaders had 5 passes intercepted; Warriors' Muldrow and Hairl combined for
                   more than 250 yards rushing.)

The Warriors' 5-5 record is their best regular season record since 2003.  :) ;) :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 14, 2009, 06:16:10 PM
I'm sure most have seen this by now - Lakeland shuts out Aurora, and Benedictine pulls out a 15-14 win at CUC. Lakeland heads to the playoffs. Heartbreaker for CUC. It will be interesting to see who Lakeland draws. They already played Central of Iowa - would they play again? Maybe UW-Whitewater?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 14, 2009, 07:57:11 PM
St. John's of Minnesota...good luck.

10,000 strong for the Johnnies...will be tough to go in there and stick with them.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 14, 2009, 09:34:19 PM
What happened at the end of the CUC game? Do they not have a kicker good enough to try a game winning FG?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 14, 2009, 09:42:46 PM
This poster had the radio feed going--on the last drive, Copeland was pulled after 2 good runs, the Cougars lost yardage on the ensuing 2 plays,  the last shot they had was a 4th down pass, which fell incomplete. Maybe they didn't want to put that kind of pressure on their freshman kicker-- :-X :-X :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 15, 2009, 09:56:55 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on November 14, 2009, 09:42:46 PM
This poster had the radio feed going--on the last drive, Copeland was pulled after 2 good runs, the Cougars lost yardage on the ensuing 2 plays,  the last shot they had was a 4th down pass, which fell incomplete. Maybe they didn't want to put that kind of pressure on their freshman kicker-- :-X :-X :-\ :-\

The CUC-BU game was one of the most tense games I have ever sat through, and as a CUC alum and fan, probably the most gut-wrenching. A few thoughts and maybe some answers to some questions:

1) BU stuck to what they do and did it well. They controlled the clock by running the ball and threw some timely, short sprintout passes that CUC had a hard time defending. I think they converted something like 9 of 19 3rd and 4th down situations.

2) BU's defense was tough as they just did not allow CUC to get into much rhythm. Copeland got yards but couldn't break the "big" play. I would also love to look at the film to see how they defended the CUC receivers. I think they often dropped a ton of guys into coverage and got enough pressure with their front four because it seemed Marotta rarely just quickly winged the ball to a primary receiver but had to hold on to the ball for a long time before scrambling around and having to get rid of the ball "out of rhythm". (He's not really a threat to run upfield.) In fact when he was sacked and then fumbled in the endzone which BU fell on for their first TD, he seemed to hold on to the ball quite a long time (although BU did blitz on the play). BU's LB Dewey was all over the field.

3) CUC had chances, and I'm sure they are shaking their heads about it now. Four times they had the ball inside the BU 40 and came away with nothing including right before and right after the half when they had a 14-9 lead and got the ball inside the BU 30 on turnovers.

Quote from: fishguy on November 14, 2009, 09:34:19 PM
What happened at the end of the CUC game? Do they not have a kicker good enough to try a game winning FG?
Interestingly enough, after the turnover just into the 2nd half, CUC had a 4th down at the BU 15 and went for it then also instead of trying a field goal. I guess that in this situation and at the end of the game the coach figured that their chances of converting the 4th down were better than makng a 32 or 35 yard field goal. ("Make 4 yards - 50% chance; make a 35 yard field goal - 35% chance" or something to that effect.) 

4) I'm not exactly sure why Copeland was not in the game for the two plays referred to above, but on the 4th down play right after half he grabbed a desperation pass and got down to the 8 but was tackled one yard short of the first down. He stayed on the ground for quite a while, finally having to be helped off the field, and although he came back in to play during the next series, he was often flexing his knee thereafter. However, BU had those two plays so well defended I'm not sure whether Copeland could have done much better.

5) I still think that CUC's defense is so much improved over past years that it is not even comparable. (Lots of hard hitting on both sides.) They did allow four fairly long drives, but BU only came up with 9 points from their offense. It's just that these drives kept CUC's offense off the field.

Although it is probably not much consolation to them, I want to congratulate Coach Pries and the Cougars for an inspirational and entertaining record-breaking season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 15, 2009, 09:59:25 PM
And before I forget, GOOD LUCK TO LAKELAND!! I know it's a tall order, but I wish them the best of luck in the playoffs and to represent the conference well.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: 02 Warhawk on November 15, 2009, 10:51:52 PM
Any Lakeland fans planning on making the trip down to Whitewater next weekend?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 16, 2009, 11:34:58 AM
Congrats to LC on winning the NAC and getting the berth in the playoffs. You did what you had to do. I see that on your schedule you played 2 playoff teams this year. This helps jgetting ready to play one of the top teams in D3 (#2 in polls). Play hard and play your best.

Any thoughts on all conference selections? I think th OPOY is the QB from CUC (Great Stats). DPOY in my opinion is #40 from WLC or Budzinski from AU.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 16, 2009, 11:37:49 AM
Yeah, good luck to Lakeland this week, congrats on getting into the playoffs.

As a CUC alumnus and fan it was hard to see a team that CUC beat get a shot at the playoffs.  Although I guess if CUC won on Saturday WLC would be thinking the same thing.

Either way, good luck to you guys,

What about conference player of the year, it has to be Marotta (QB from CUC) don't you think?  What about everone elses thoughts?

Haha, Old 40, we posted this at the same time.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 16, 2009, 11:53:44 AM
I made my 8th AU game this year and was dissaponted to say the least. Mike Budzinski looked really good. IMHO AU looked flat and not emotional at all. I have enjoyed watching the Seniors, good luck in your future. I hope we can rebuild next year and get back into the hunt.

The refs were bad in my opinion. Alot of flags.

The worst part of the game was the LC facility. What a field? Every AU player I talked to said the field was horrible. It is the worst in the NAC, maybe MBBC is also poor. It looks like the school poured all their money to the indoor place which was very nice. Too bad they didn't spend 2 cents on the field and their stands. I was impressed with their team and we were all talking about it must be tough to get kids to play there. None of our kids would go there with those facilities. Good team Bad field, too bad. Hopefully they will look at AU, CUC, CUW, BU, WLC and move in that direction. Did anyone else visit LC and what were your thoughts on their field?

Spartans, lets get ready for next year. Back in the hunt.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 16, 2009, 11:58:40 AM
Baseman201

CUC just did not take care of business. I was shocked that they lost. I thought that your QB would rain passes all day on the BU defense. I agree with you I never thought LC would win the NAC. I did not think they would be a .500 team, maybe 4th or 5th.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: maidenslayer77 on November 16, 2009, 12:02:02 PM
What happened to the "almighty" CUC? They seemed to celebrate a little too much at Vago Field two weeks ago. I wasn't sold on them when I saw them play AU two weeks ago and I proved to be right.

Congratulations to Lakeland though. Good luck in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 16, 2009, 01:40:35 PM
Maiden-

Your comments kind of bothered me.

Wasn't sold on them when they played AU?  You mean when they racked up 565 yards of total offense (228 on the ground 337 through the air) when they played them.....

If anything a dominating 44-27 win would sell me on any team.  They lead the NAC in every offensive category as well.  I thought they would absolutely whoop BU.  They just have to look to next year, Marotta and Copeland will be back again and they have some underclassmen WR's with some ridiculious talent.

Just didn't have it in their last game, BU must have done some crazy film studying to prepare.

I am going to try to get up to Whitewater this weekend.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 16, 2009, 02:08:52 PM
baseman:

Had CUC won, sure, I would have felt the same way, just to a lesser degree. WLC just so happened to get the Cougars when they were really having an off day. Given that Benedictine had beaten the Warriors the week before last anyway, WLC was out of contention going into last week. WLC's earlier loss to Lakeland hurts more, because a potential go-ahead TD on the Warriors' last drive was called back because of a holding penalty.

I'll still be happy with WLC's 5-5 record, however.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: rusty shackleford on November 16, 2009, 02:16:22 PM
to everyone... if ifs and buts were candies and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas.

good luck to Lakeland and Congratulations for doing what they had to do the whole season to earn it.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 16, 2009, 02:23:38 PM
I agree -Rusty- I was just making observations-didn't mean it if you thought I was venting.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 16, 2009, 02:39:03 PM
WLCALUM83

Good points. I think WLC will be loaded next year and will be tough to beat. They have improved in the last 3 years a bunch, 3 years ago was the first time I had seen them play, they played AU. They have the best young (Frosh) QB in the league, at least what I have seen. Their RB's and MLB(really good) are back along with a fair part of the line.

I would think CUC, LC, CUW, WLC and BU will be in the hunt. However BU loses alot of Seniors. Their fate lies in how well they reload. I don't know if AU can recover in 1 year or not, Alot of key Seniors gone, 20 of them. Next year could go down to the last week. Lots of parity in the league. Its great for fans like me.

Some interesting stats to support the above. 2 year NAC W-L records.

MBBC (0-14) improved their depth
RC (3-11) Their QB left and slipped
WLC (7-7) Up and coming quickly. Good D and skill kids coming back
CUC (7-7) The leader till the end, 1010 might be their year. All the high powered tools are back except for the receiver
AU (9-5) loses alot of Seniors. Can they reload?
BU (9-5) loses alot of Seniors. Can they reload?
CUW (10-4) Loses a good QB and ket linemen. Loaded with young high quality players. Will be tough to beat.
LC (11-3) They return alot of key players, should be in the mix.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: maidenslayer77 on November 16, 2009, 04:48:13 PM
Baseman201.......

You can talk all you want about 565 of total yards on offense. DEFENSE wins championships. I am curious to know just how many points they did give up this year. I will give them credit, they are explosive on offense, but the reactions after the win I saw two weekends by the players bothered me against Aurora. They celebrated a little too much, and had a hangover from it. They could have proven themselves the last game of the year and didn't.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on November 16, 2009, 06:24:08 PM
OK Maiden, let's talk about defense...Concordia's D gave up nine points on Saturday (BU's other TD coming on a fumble recovery in the end zone). Nothing really wrong with Concordia's D on Saturday, Benedictine's was just better.
Are you even aware of how much better CUC's defense was this year from last? In 2008, CUC's rushing defense was among the worst in all of Division III - 281 yards per game. That's bad! 419 yards total offense per game by Cougar opponents. This year, rushing defense was 120 yards per game,opponents' total offense per game was 310. Oh yes, Cougars were also a plus 13 in the all-important turnover differential - CUC coming up with 36 takeaways on 19 fumbles and 17 picks.

As for celebrating too much, how do you figure? Considering that the Cougars had 1) just beaten Aurora for the first time in 16 games and the first time since 1952 ("hardly a man is now alive..."), 2) just saw Khyree Copeland play a once-in-a-lifetime game in setting single-game, season and career records all on the same day, and 3) just won their eighth game of the season. something no Cougar team had ever done - well, how were they supposed to act? I believe that Coach Pries kept the team on a very even keel all season, and Saturday's loss to BU was a case of either feeling the pressure or maybe BU playing the better game on Saturday.

I think the feeling around the Cougars is that this was an amazing year, one that surpassed everyone's expectations, but in the end, the team did not reach the ultimate goal. This season has instilled a new confidence in the team, and it will be very interesting to watch what happens in the off-season and what kind of recruiting class CUC brings in for next year. But this was a huge year for the program, one which the team has the right to look back on with pride and the fans remember for a long, long time.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 16, 2009, 08:23:44 PM
Look it up

You are very right. It was an amassing year for CUC. Their coach has done a great job putting this program in the right direction. They were down for many years.

Hats off, also, to BU and WLC. Both had very good seasons and look to be moving up in the league. WLC will be a factor for the championship of the NAC.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Wags40-LC on November 16, 2009, 09:58:35 PM
My picks in August 14th
1. Lakeland
2. Aurora
3. CUW
4. CUC
5. Benedictine
6. WLC
7. Rockford
8 Marantha

Final  Standings
1. LC
2. CUC
3. Benedictine
4. CUW
5. WLC
6. Aurora
7. Rockford
8. MBBC

After playing in this Conference four four years and CUC proved a lot of people wrong. OLD 40 and the rest of you AU followers. I don't know what happened from this year to last, but they were a dissapointment to say the least.

Can't say I was glad to see AU get shut out after celebrating the championship last year. Mind you players spit and gave inappropiate gestures to the Lakeland fans last year. Glad to know dispite not having the nicest stadium, we're at least humble, well-mannered, classier, and quite frankly the better team this year. Can you see us now Aurora posters. Best of luck getting your program back together.

Think LC owes Benedictine some gratitude after pulling out that victory vs CUC. The celebration when that was announced after the dominanting victory vs AU was terrific.

Proud of Lakeland for their accomplishments this year. This team puts in the morning lifts, extra time after practice doing sprints, and reviews film on their own among doing hours of homework. Here at Lakeland we don't celebrate the nicest stadium or facilities, we celebrate the work eithic, and dedication our teams have.

These guys are hungry and everyone can say what they want but they are going to come after Whitewater. There's some guys on the offense that can make some plays, got some hustlers on special teams, and if the Defense can show up and come full force we will be in good shape. Make a miarcle happen. Stranger things have happened. Zebrowski's offense is predictable anyway.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 17, 2009, 09:00:50 AM
As always, I want to see the rep for this conference do well in the playoffs, but this will not be the year.  

LC lost to those two playoff teams by just over 3 touchdowns each.  

As a player, I have faced Zebrowski's offenses, and agree they are predictable.  But when you have the horses, it is still hard to stop.

CUW is a classic example, we had one of the most predictable offenses in the conference, teams would literally call out our plays before the snap.  However most teamns could not stop us anyways, thanks to the rediculous talent on that side of the ball.  

I wish LC the best of luck, play hard and enjoy it, you never know if you'll have another chance at this great experience!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on November 17, 2009, 10:48:58 AM
"we're at least humble, well-mannered, classier"

This just makes me laugh...I don't think anybody but a brainwashed LC fan/ex-player would believe a word of this....hahahaha

The coaches in the NAC would definitely say that LC is the least humble, well-mannered, and classy team in the conference

Either way who cares...the season is over and LC is the NAC champs....they were the best team at the end and that's all that matters...

As for CUC....once again....good year....good team.....definitely not great....who cares about how many yards they gained/gave up or how many turnovers they caused/committed or any stats for that matter....all it comes down to is they didn't win when it really mattered....when it came down to the conference championship game, they did not play like a conference champion...and that is why they started their offseason....
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on November 17, 2009, 02:08:01 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on November 16, 2009, 02:16:22 PM
to everyone... if ifs and buts were candies and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas.

good luck to Lakeland and Congratulations for doing what they had to do the whole season to earn it.


You are a wise man Terry
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Blutarsky on November 17, 2009, 02:54:11 PM
Quote from: dizzle52 on November 17, 2009, 02:08:01 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on November 16, 2009, 02:16:22 PM
to everyone... if ifs and buts were candies and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas.

good luck to Lakeland and Congratulations for doing what they had to do the whole season to earn it.


You are a wise man Terry

.....and if my Aunt Chris had a pair, she'd be my Uncle Joe.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on November 17, 2009, 11:33:57 PM
Quote from: Wags40-LC on November 16, 2009, 09:58:35 PM

These guys are hungry and everyone can say what they want but they are going to come after Whitewater. There's some guys on the offense that can make some plays, got some hustlers on special teams, and if the Defense can show up and come full force we will be in good shape. Make a miarcle happen. Stranger things have happened. Zebrowski's offense is predictable anyway.

Wags,
Every program needs loyal backers. You back Lakeland and I back UWW. I have no doubt Lakeland will bring full effort against UWW. If that's what you mean by this statement, I have no disagreement. If you think for a moment that Lakeland will be able to dictate tempo, exert any control over the line of scrimmage, be the more physical or aggressive team, or any such thing, then i'm afraid you don't have a clue what is about to happen to your team.

Rooting for your team to make a miracle happen is appropriate in this case.  "Stranger things have happened" is a phrase that applies to almost any situation. But actually, if Lakeland were to win this game, I'm not sure any stranger thing actually HAS happened. It would blow Appalachian State over Michigan out of the water in terms of an upset. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 18, 2009, 10:04:10 AM
OOOOO!! Oh no he didn't!

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 18, 2009, 06:44:48 PM
It feels good to be back

Quote from: dizzle52 on November 17, 2009, 10:48:58 AM
"we're at least humble, well-mannered, classier"

This just makes me laugh...I don't think anybody but a brainwashed LC fan/ex-player would believe a word of this....hahahaha

The coaches in the NAC would definitely say that LC is the least humble, well-mannered, and classy team in the conference



Well said Dizzle, I played few years, back now against LC, and LC was always  the worst least classy team in the IBFC/NAC, and that's no lie, and from what I heard last year the new coach didn't even have the courtesy to shake his former HC hand after the game, that's what I heard I was not there, but still I played against LC and they had the least amount of sportsmanship I had seen in all my years of playing....players and fans at LC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: BoBo on November 18, 2009, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: Wags40-LC on November 16, 2009, 09:58:35 PM
These guys are hungry and everyone can say what they want but they are going to come after Whitewater. There's some guys on the offense that can make some plays, got some hustlers on special teams, and if the Defense can show up and come full force we will be in good shape. Make a miarcle happen. Stranger things have happened. Zebrowski's offense is predictable anyway.

It seems his unpredictability has landed him a coaching award (taken from WIAC page):

Quote from: Barber Greene on November 18, 2009, 05:51:41 PM
Voice says that Jim Zebrowski was named the WIAC Assistant Coach of the Year, http://www.warhawkfootball.com/newswire.asp.  I think that it is well-deserved. Seems that this year's team is spreading the ball around to all of its weapons and is a more wide-open and unpredictable.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 18, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
Totally predictable yet managing just over 500 yards per contest.  

Wags, for a dollar I'll sell you a clue.  ;)  How many WARHAWK games have you seen in the past couple of years?

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on November 19, 2009, 09:26:16 AM
FatalImpact

He even blew off some of his old players at a game a few years back...real class act
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Wags40-LC on November 19, 2009, 04:27:37 PM
Hey guys, listen I meant no respect to Whitewater. We all know they are a good team. Zebrowski is a good coach but I am not a huge fan of him after he left Lakeland with only a couple months before the season. They have a crazy run game and play action pass that'll be hard to deal with and congrats to the guy and the team on their awards.

These guys from Lakeland have a lot of heart and it's been great seeing these guys grow as people. The guys are embracing the fact of being the underdog. They are going to fight every play until the end and that should be respected. At Lakeland that's what these guys pride themselves on. May not have the nicest stuff but they are willing to work hard to progress.

I never said we were the classiest in the conference. I meant it by guys were more classy than the AU players swearing and giving inappropiate gestures to our fans last year. Coach D is a great guy and we are glad to have him at LC.  I'm sure whatever offense was taken from him was not deliberate. He has turned this program into the right direction with some quality guys he has brought in. Things are different as far as a respect standpoint toward the opponents.

Good luck to both teams this weekend. Much respect to all.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 19, 2009, 06:14:25 PM
Quote from: dizzle52 on November 19, 2009, 09:26:16 AM
FatalImpact

He even blew off some of his old players at a game a few years back...real class act
That sounds right dizzle, I wouldn't be surprised Wags, if the problem started with LC fans, when I was playing LC fans were as bout as classy as the players, which isn't very classy at all , so even if AU started it it was one instance where LC was more classy than AU, so that's 1 time versus around 100 times, history speaks for itself
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on November 19, 2009, 11:20:30 PM
Quote from: Wags40-LC on November 19, 2009, 04:27:37 PM
Hey guys, listen I meant no respect to Whitewater. We all know they are a good team. Zebrowski is a good coach but I am not a huge fan of him after he left Lakeland with only a couple months before the season. They have a crazy run game and play action pass that'll be hard to deal with and congrats to the guy and the team on their awards.

These guys from Lakeland have a lot of heart and it's been great seeing these guys grow as people. The guys are embracing the fact of being the underdog. They are going to fight every play until the end and that should be respected. At Lakeland that's what these guys pride themselves on. May not have the nicest stuff but they are willing to work hard to progress.


I never said we were the classiest in the conference. I meant it by guys were more classy than the AU players swearing and giving inappropiate gestures to our fans last year. Coach D is a great guy and we are glad to have him at LC.  I'm sure whatever offense was taken from him was not deliberate. He has turned this program into the right direction with some quality guys he has brought in. Things are different as far as a respect standpoint toward the opponents.

Good luck to both teams this weekend. Much respect to all.

I have no experience to comment on the classy stuff, but the paragraph in bold I can understand and respect. That's the exact approach an underdog should take.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 20, 2009, 09:40:43 AM
It's going to take a lot of heart this weekend, play with intesity every play.  If your technique and assignments are sound hopefully the game will be somewhat respectable. 

I have watched LC on film and they do a lot of blitzing and try to confuse offenses, or get to them before they can make anything happen.  However, they run themselves out of plays and can sometimes overpursue. 

I don't think that will be the problem this weekend.  I think WW will pick up the blitzes, forcing LC's secondary to cover for too long, and they will give up some big plays. 

Then there are always screen passes.  I think LC will make a few plays on D but not get much on O.

WW 59-3
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 20, 2009, 11:13:29 AM
Honestly, I want so bad for an NAC team to win a playoff game.  It doesn't matter who was representing the NAC this year, the outcome would be the same. 

But, as teams in the NAC keep getting better, hopefully we can get some better players to make the league more competitive come playoff time.  It may take a few years, but I have no doubt it can happen.

WW wins 60-10, with LC scoring a TD against the 2nd and 3rd strings.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 20, 2009, 11:17:36 AM
Good Luck LC

Play hard and make the NAC respectable against Nuber 2.

UWW52-LC 17
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Redbirds77 on November 20, 2009, 12:46:19 PM
Really wish luck to LC.....hopefully they can get this conference some respect
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 20, 2009, 01:31:57 PM
I think this conference has traditionally had some very good skill players, many of which could play at any number of schools around the country. 

I beleive the biggest disparity comes in the trenches.  WW and Mount U and other top programs have the size as well.  They also have numbers, which means depth.

The NAC right now is a small conference both in size of players and size of teams overall.  I think there are some good talented players in some positions around the conference, but I nobody has all the factors needed to compete nationally at this time.

Hopefully recruiting continues to pick up over all and the NAC can make some waves in the future.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 20, 2009, 02:10:06 PM
I see the NAC awards were given out,

What's with the co-offensive player of the year?  How lame is that?

I understand Heinemeyer is a talented WR, but why the CO-offensive players?  It just seems they couldn't let a CUC player be up there on their own, they had to get someone else in their too.  I think Marotta should be at the top on his own with the season that he had.

I mean, Egebrecht from CUC had 1,023 receiving yards, 220 more than Heinemeyer.

It's not just the offensive player, it's CO-freshman and CO-Coaches, I just think it's kind of stupid, but my opinion,.

But, I guess I don't get to make the decisions...... ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 20, 2009, 03:16:52 PM
Marotta definately had a great year statiscally, but I saw him miss a lot of throws.  I am not taking anything away from him because he did do great, but then you come to the argument about stats and who is a "product" of their offense.  

I think last years Heisman race is a perfect example.  Bradford and great stats, but as a the true best player in college football, who was better than Tebow?  

Who do you think a d-cooridinator has more trouble preparing for?  Who scares a defense more?  How many times has Tebow escaped certain doom and made a rediculous play.  This year he has struggled after his concussion.  On 4th and 3 who would you rather have?

Just some thoughts to get the board going.  Congrats to all those who received conference honors.  

I think Copeland should have been at the top for player of the year.  He struggled with injury early, what were his final stats?

Any other ideas? 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on November 20, 2009, 09:58:32 PM
Quote from: Redbirds77 on November 20, 2009, 12:46:19 PM
Really wish luck to LC.....hopefully they can get this conference some respect

As I UWW fan, I  certainly recognize the different levels that exist in D3 football. But regardless of level or skill or size, I would hope ALL D3 fans respect ALL D3 athletes. It's easy to lose perspective in our enthusiasm for our teams.  If Lakeland indeed has smaller players in the trenches (I'm too lazy to look it up), or skill players who are a step slower, that should in no way cause a lack of respect from WIAC fans or fans from any other conference. It seems like respect for a D3 football player should be for his heart, his love of the game, his hard work, and his good attitude. For the record, I am not one of those softies who think we should not keep score in youth games. Winning is the purpose of the games and teams at EVERY level should make winning an objective IMHO. However, I don't think respect for the athlete should be based on winning or losing.

I expect a lopsided game tomorrow. But either way, I hope that fans from both sides will keep perspective and respect the athletes on both sides. I hope  both teams give it their all, enjoy the experience, and come through the game without injury.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 21, 2009, 12:45:14 AM
Falcons -

Yeah, I see all your points, but I was really complaining about the "Co" part of it, I just think there should have been only one in each category.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Eyeinthesky on November 21, 2009, 07:39:22 PM
Although I know everyone has probably seen it, 70-7 final.


I would have kept you all updated but I was at the Arkansas vs. Miss. State game instead and you could have watched it online too.

Quite a depressing showing marred by turnovers on the Lakeland side.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 22, 2009, 04:13:41 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 20, 2009, 02:10:06 PM
I see the NAC awards were given out,

What's with the co-offensive player of the year?  How lame is that?

I understand Heinemeyer is a talented WR, but why the CO-offensive players?  It just seems they couldn't let a CUC player be up there on their own, they had to get someone else in their too.  I think Marotta should be at the top on his own with the season that he had.

I mean, Egebrecht from CUC had 1,023 receiving yards, 220 more than Heinemeyer.

It's not just the offensive player, it's CO-freshman and CO-Coaches, I just think it's kind of stupid, but my opinion,.

But, I guess I don't get to make the decisions...... ;D

One comment I would make in response, as a former coach, is a great importance of the voting is to not only protect and help your players get recognition, but also to have another coach vote for yours when you need it.  Much of the voting results looks as if there was too many solid candidates to have only one.  The other factor, of which I have no knowledge, is who was up on the list last year compared to this year?  There have been times where a 'Player of the Year" as a junior, did not even make 1st team all conference after the first vote the next.

My point is the coaches do not take this vote lightly and, in order for the recognition to be fair in tight years, as this may have been, having Co-Players seemed to be the best way.

As for the Coach of the year, historically (and this is dating back to the IBC days) the award has gone to the conference champion' coach.  I am not saying whether it is right or not, the coaches vote on it how they feel fits.  I feel it is still right that Coach Pries recieved recognition from his peers as to the job he has done and is continuing to do at CUC.

Next year will be interesting to watch how CUC goes through the season with a bullseyes on their chest.  Rest assured, there will be a great many players from other teams with bulletin board material to motivate them for the summer (i.e.- CUW-1sth loss to CUC since '87 and AU 1st loss ever to a CUC in team history, I believe).

Congrats to all conference award winners and best of luck to you all next year.  I hope you all have a safe and injury free spring and summer.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on November 23, 2009, 02:11:23 PM
It's better to be "Co" winner instead of "Co" loser
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Spartan46 on November 30, 2009, 04:49:58 PM
Wags40

"Can't say I was glad to see AU get shut out after celebrating the championship last year. Mind you players spit and gave inappropiate gestures to the Lakeland fans last year. Glad to know dispite not having the nicest stadium, we're at least humble, well-mannered, classier, and quite frankly the better team this year. Can you see us now Aurora posters. Best of luck getting your program back together."

Do you hear yourself? 2008 is over

As for your argument against Whitewater 70-7,,, scoreboard.



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on December 01, 2009, 11:12:59 AM
I think next year will be very interesting.....

First of all, no one really had a great year....CUC did well but blew it in the end....and them being decent and bringing back some key players, I think teams will start to take them serious....next year will show if they are contenders or pretenders

AU's schedule doesn't look too bad with IWU, LC, BU, CUW, and WLC coming to aurora.....They also have North Park and MacMurray (could be a trap game specially since it's at MC)....They are losing a ton of experience but if AU is going to make a move for the title again, it will be next season

RC and MBBC is terrible and there are no significant signs of a turnaround

LC, BU, CUW, and WLC will have decent years, but no one runs away with the championship and it's decided over the last two weeks of the season

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on December 01, 2009, 07:27:37 PM
Dizzle

Good points. As long as the CUC QB is coming back they will be right there at the end. I also think WLC will be there. They have a good QBand RB's and return most of their team. As usual LC and CUW will challenge. I think AU loses alot and may be a year away from the mix.

You are right when you say anybody can win it. I really like WLC and CUW. I was not impressed with the LC QB or their running game. Bu will lose over 20 Seniors, so it may be a rebuilding year for them. I think RC will respond with a couple of surprise wins. MBBC will continue to grow and get better.

I hope everyone has a Great and Safe Holiday Season. Looks like MUC and UWW for the big trophy.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on December 11, 2009, 09:03:53 AM
Congrats to the NAC players who made the D3Football all region North team. Good Job!

1st team-
LB-Mike Budzinski-AU
K-Dan Winsey-CUW

2nd. team-
DL-Pat Funks-AU
DB-Jarin Davis-CUC

3rd team-
RB-Kyree Copeland-CUC
DL-Eddie Hill- BU
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 15, 2009, 08:18:08 PM
News about a playing opportunity for 3 WLC footballers here:

http://www.wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=1275
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on December 20, 2009, 08:27:29 AM
Special Congrats to 2 NAC players who made the D3 All America Team.

2ND Team Kicker- Dan Winsey-CUW

Honorable mention Safety- Jarin Davis- CUC

Great job!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on December 24, 2009, 02:50:07 PM
Merry Christmas all --

and may the new year be a good one for your and your families


blessings in Christ

pastor leary
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on February 11, 2010, 01:10:33 PM
HELLOOOOOOOO???????????????????
Is there anybody out there???????????????


I am trying to find the dates for CUW spring ball -- will post when I know

other NAC fans -- when does your team tune up in spring????


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Rev. Kelly James Leary on February 11, 2010, 01:11:31 PM
apparently question marks give you little confused smilies
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 18, 2010, 07:48:16 PM
???????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 18, 2010, 07:48:37 PM
He's right.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 18, 2010, 07:50:37 PM
Cougars start up thier conference championship drive in April.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 24, 2010, 09:10:22 AM
WLC's 2010 schedule is out:

http://www.wlcsports.com/schedule.asp?sportID=6
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on April 26, 2010, 04:46:56 PM
I hope some of the posters from the NAC are up from winter hybernation.

How is recruiting going from some of your schools.

I hear CUW has the QB from Harper JC and is suppose to be a stud. One of their assistants said they have about 14 kids from FL.

AU is having a decent year with some good linemen coming and some strong players on D.

WLC has a couple of good QB's coming in that I know of and one good receiver and LB.

Thats all I have heard.

Any news from Benedictine, CUC, Rockford or Lakeland.

Let's get the board moving again. Any thoughts on the 2010 conference race. IMHO it could be a 4 team race. Looks as the Concordia's (IL & WI) will be the teams to beat.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 25, 2010, 06:07:04 AM
News on a playing opportunity for a former WLC player here:

http://wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=1556
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: oldnuthin on May 25, 2010, 12:32:23 PM
Quote from: old 40 on April 26, 2010, 04:46:56 PM
I hope some of the posters from the NAC are up from winter hybernation.

How is recruiting going from some of your schools.

I hear CUW has the QB from Harper JC and is suppose to be a stud. One of their assistants said they have about 14 kids from FL.

AU is having a decent year with some good linemen coming and some strong players on D.

WLC has a couple of good QB's coming in that I know of and one good receiver and LB.

Thats all I have heard.

Any news from Benedictine, CUC, Rockford or Lakeland.

Let's get the board moving again. Any thoughts on the 2010 conference race. IMHO it could be a 4 team race. Looks as the Concordia's (IL & WI) will be the teams to beat.



I hear Borsellino is transferring back to Benedictine
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on May 25, 2010, 04:44:37 PM
Old Nuthin;
If thats true that will greatly help them in speed. Despite a couple of Senior loses I think they will be right in the middle of the mix for the championship.

I think from what I have heard CUW with their transfer JC QB they will be very tough to beat. I hope the Rev. will update us on their 2010 squad.

Should be a really good season and anyone of 8 teams could win it.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lil sparty on June 17, 2010, 10:00:15 PM
looks like AU has jumped into the transfer market for a pretty good local player http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/sports/2402362,2_2_AU17_HOFSTETTER_S1-100617.article (http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/sports/2402362,2_2_AU17_HOFSTETTER_S1-100617.article)

Have also heard wind of a high profile transfer at QB as well.  Will this one be a better fit than the last transfer QB?  I hope so....

Any other news from the NathCon?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 01, 2010, 02:30:00 PM
Anything going on at any of the conference schools? How was evryones recruiting? AU and BU has gotten several transfers as I have read. Any word on CUC? The people at WLC must be happy with the big Freshman class and some good QB's. Anyone know about Lakeland or CUW? Looks like Rockford may be losing their coach. They have given AU some tough battles in the last few years. Who is picking  who for the conference championship? What schools have to rebuild the most? I know AU lost many fine Seniors especially on Defense, I hope they can reload. Some of their young folks will have to step up.

Don't forget to registar on the 2010 Kickoff, it's a good value for $10.00.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 05, 2010, 10:42:17 AM
I read on football scoop that the Rockford coach is the new Head coach at Washington High School in Iowa. Any news who his replacement might be. I don't know what kind of job that is. Since they came into the NAC they have not won much. I saw them against AU and it looks like they have some athletes but their offense could not move the ball consistently. They did play hard and hung with AU for awhile. If anyone knows anything let us know.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on July 09, 2010, 01:56:55 PM
Rockford has an coach

http://www.rrstar.com/sports/college/x1849224640/Babcock-new-Rockford-College-head-football-coach
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 09, 2010, 09:49:50 PM
AU Dad

Thanks for the post. Sounds like this will be a good fit and RU will perhaps be a bit more competitive this. This is also good for the conference.

AU Dad whats your thoughts on AU this fall? Ithink they coukd be real good if their QB steps up. I think their running game will be very good. Defense I worry about. Curious on your thoughts.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 14, 2010, 01:51:50 PM
Special congrats to Dan Winsey of CUW for being D3.com Preseason All-Ameican 1st. Team Kicker. He is the real deal. I saw him against AU last year and he is a Great kicker with alot of range.

Great Job!  I hope you have a Great 2010 season.

I hope we can get some folks from each school to start contributing to this board. The season is almost here. Most camps start around 8-15 I think.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FourthAndOne on July 16, 2010, 05:50:09 PM
Hello Fellas,

It'd be nice to get some people on here from each team. I've been going to BU games the last few yrs so i'll chime in about the Eagles from time to time. Coach Coop is back. I was watching that situation closely because of the offensive struggles the last couple of years. The school paper even took him to task after last season. Every year they say they are going to tweak the offense but it was the same old predictable stuff. Mabey this year??? ::) Ok so i'm not a fan of the offensive scheme but they can put a good defensive plan together. The DC will have his work cut out for him in 2010 as they lost a ton of talent on the Dline and especially at linebacker. I think the D will be soild come conference time. The new non-con schedule is much more favorable this yr. They play Eureka(A) NP(A) and Kalamazoo(H) instead of Elmhurst and NC. That should help alot because in the frist game against Elmhurst  last year BU lost their #1 RB to a knee(out for the yr)  and the #2 RB got hurt in the 4th qtr sat out 4 games and wasn't 100%all year. They then lost a slew of players against North Central the very next week. Not sure who the QB is going to be, last yrs backup looked pretty good in a few games most notably the CUW game when he nearly led a big second half comeback. Also heard of a transfer QB but all I know about him is he's got good size. I'd say BU will be middle of the pack in 2010. Good luck to all the teams have a healthy and succesfull season. I can't wait for football season!  Here's my picks:
1-CUW
2-CUC
3-WLC
4-Lake
5A-BU
5B-AU
7-Rock
8-MBBC

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on July 28, 2010, 06:19:59 AM
Welcome to the board!

This poster caught the last few minutes of the IL Eagle win over CUC last year. Your squad's win in that game knocked CUC out of post-season play. (Both times WLC's played CUC, it's been interesting. '08 the Warriors came from behind in 2nd half to win on the road, and then last year --it was CUC's "Muirphy's Law" game.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 28, 2010, 08:02:32 PM
I saw the CUW 2010 roster on their FB web site and I see they have 61 Freshmen coming in. Sounds like they are getting it together for a big run. They are over 120 players. I think they will be very hard to beat. They have CUC at their place which will be a very critical game for them. CUW and CUC  will be my two teams to battle for first place. Predicted order of finish to come later. ForthAndOne, looks like he may have it nailed down.

I think AU should be optimistic about 2010 with some key transfers, especially the one from Western Ill., They will need for a couple of young players to step up and they will be OK. No son playing this year but will catch some games.

This is all I have heard about NAC teams. I was told that BU has some high quality transfers. That can put them in contention.

How about posters from some of the other NAC schools. Any info on 2010? Not much time till the season begins.

Anyone has thoughts on their teams non-conference opponents? Looks like CUW has a tough schedule as does WLC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 02, 2010, 04:37:27 PM
It's getting close and I am suprised the CUW and CUC guys have not been on the site like previous years. You have alot to be excited about for this year as you guys should be the teams to beat IMHO. AU will be 1-2 years away.

Is the NAC having a media day this year? Last year it was canceled for economics. I hope they have something. I see what the other conferences do and I wonder if the NAC commissioner can get something put together. He should want to promote, at least a conference call? What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on August 02, 2010, 05:45:02 PM
No word on the NAC website about a football media day. Did they do a "conference call" media event last year? I can't remember if it was the NAC or some other conference that I heard did that.

I haven't heard anything about CUC recruiting over the summer. They usually post a roster a week or two after fall camp opens. I was actually kind of surprised that CUW already has a list of freshman and transfers on their website. From what I could tell, the incoming freshman are marked "fr" with no other info, but last year's freshman are marked "fr" with height, weight, etc. It looks like CUW will have about 9 seniors? (I'm assuming the guys marked "jr" who are not junior transfers are the 2010 seniors.) This seems low for them. However they do have about 15 returning juniors-to-be plus a handful of transfers giving them about 30 upperclassmen on their roster which in this league is probably pretty good.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 02, 2010, 08:20:29 PM
RFMichigan

Good to hear from you. Go to www.cuwfff.net  This is their Football wen site run by football backers. It's good and shows they have alot of support. The roster is posted there. They have over 60 new freshmen players.

Thanks for getting on the board. Good Luck to your team this year which I guess would be CUC based on your moniker.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Just Bill on August 11, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
CUC is the coaches' poll pick to win the NAC this season....

http://www.northernac.org/releases/2010/2010_08/20100811a.html

2010 NAC Preseason Poll
1. Concordia Chicago (3), 57
2. Lakeland (3), 54
3. Concordia Wisconsin, 50
4. Wisconsin Lutheran (2), 38
5. Aurora, 33
6. Benedictine, 32
7. Rockford, 14
8. Maranatha, 10
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 11, 2010, 08:28:36 PM
Congrats to CUC for being the favorite to win the championship this year. IMHO they should be the pick. They return most of their high scoring Offense. I was surprised that LC was 2nd. I thought CUW and WLC should be ahead of them. I will pick me preseason guesses the week before the season.

I do have a bold prediction and that is IMHO the MBCC will get their 1st conference win this year.

I am schocked that the cougar faithful are not out howlling on their team being the favorite. Good luck and safe play to all the teams this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on August 11, 2010, 10:00:30 PM
The thing that jumped out at me is that Wis Lu got TWO first place votes, yet finished a distant fourth.  Some coaches must have pegged them for 7th or 8th.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on August 12, 2010, 09:54:47 PM
I have been following the cuc for the past 5 years since moving near the area from down south. I very happy to hear that they are projected to finish first because that coach has done a great job building that program from the ground up. But folks lets not forget that anything can happen, as we can learn from how last year played out. That being said I am very excited to see cuc play , according to my sources they are returning 19 out of 22 starters. Have numerous players that they can rotate in and still be strong, as well as a transfer from u of i and western il to add to their defense. The QB was named preseason all american by usa football news so congrads to him.  But I also want  to see how au responds to the season they had last year, and what wlc and con wis has to bring to the table. I wish all teams the best of luck this year, should be a very fun season from a fans view
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 12, 2010, 10:27:11 PM
Mr. Ypsi

WLC got the voyes IMHO because they beat CUC and barely lost to LC, Their coaches say a bad call called back the winning TD. I understand they return 2 great running backs and their QB was only a Freshman last year. I saw them just demolish AU last year and they have to be a factor this year. IMHO based on what I saw last year CUC, CUW and WLC will be the teams battling it out. I think AU will turn aroud from last season withe transfers they have and surprise everyone.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on August 12, 2010, 10:57:51 PM
Quote from: old 40 on August 12, 2010, 10:27:11 PM
Mr. Ypsi

WLC got the voyes IMHO because they beat CUC and barely lost to LC, Their coaches say a bad call called back the winning TD. I understand they return 2 great running backs and their QB was only a Freshman last year. I saw them just demolish AU last year and they have to be a factor this year. IMHO based on what I saw last year CUC, CUW and WLC will be the teams battling it out. I think AU will turn aroud from last season withe transfers they have and surprise everyone.

I wasn't necessarily contesting their first-place votes; just startled that they could have two such votes and still finish a distant fourth.  The coaches obviously have wildly divergent opinions on them!

Three months from now we will know which coaches are crazy!  (Well, unless they post who voted for whom, I guess WE won't know, but some coaches will know they were WAY off!) :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 15, 2010, 12:04:12 AM
Wow how times have changed, 2 years ago and beyond CUC was picked last or 2nd to last every single year.  I hope they can handle the pressure of being the "team to beat" this year.

They have an awesome chance of going undefeated especially returning 19 of the 22 starters.  They still have Marotta at QB and Copeland at RB, their returning WRs are studs too.  I can see them putting up 30-40 pts per game again this year.

Can't wait to see how everyone does

Let's get some CUC people on here!!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on August 17, 2010, 09:53:44 PM
I am very curious to see how AU responds to the season they had last year. I am a CUC fan, but  I am not going to sit here and say anything I can regret at the end of the season, because AU seemed to be in this same spot last year and look how their last season played out for them. I hope the cougars do live up to the hype, but yet once again, any team as a chance to come and fight for the conference championship, The question that I am curious to see is who will be the CUC  that came out of no where last season, this season? :-\
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 18, 2010, 02:50:01 PM
Mredbirds77

I think AU will bounce back. They have several tranfers and some of their young guys must step up. Fellers is back at RB and he should have a big year. IMHO they took the nose dive because the lost their QB who was a real stud. AU should be one of the top 3 by November.

CUC should blow through everyone with almost their whole Offense coming back. The CUW game will be a challenge since it's on the road. They should be 10 or 9-1 at the worst.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CUCKid on August 23, 2010, 01:59:45 PM
Hey Everyone,
CUCKid here, I am going to try to not play favorites, but I am a CUC student lol. I would have joined two years ago but I had no idea it was free. I did play for two years (kinda, I was a kicker) at Concordia and now I want to watch it from the stands. But I will be in DC this fall and will have to get all my NATHC news from here!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2010, 02:24:09 PM
Free! Free indeed!

Welcome aboard, good to have you.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 24, 2010, 09:47:49 PM
Congrats to the D3football gang for another great kickoff. Great Job!

The predictions are close to what I would guess. CUC to dominate, thier only tough game will be CUW at their place and if they clear that hurdle it's 10-0. No BU upset this year. CUW has the QB to challenge for the top spot and their game with CUC will be for all the marbles. WLC with the top RB's will be there for third place. Then the big drop off and the fight for fourth between AU, BU and LC. AU will be the big surprise this year. They have the transfers and play some key games at home.

I heard the AU intra squad scrimmage was very impressive. I will catch their scrimmage with North Central this week. I hope they have filled their holes. Predictions coming this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 26, 2010, 01:19:15 PM
CUC roster is out, about 100 on the team this year, with of course just about every starter returning.

Its awesome to see what Pries has done over there in a short amount of time.

Looking forward to checking out a few games this year.  Looking forward to predictions too.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 26, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Finally the season is almost here. Here  are my guesses for the preseason predictions on the NAC.

1. CUC- Should be the class of the league. Great QB with the best receivers and RB's in the NAC. Big question will be can they beat CUW on the road. 6-1

2.CUW- Very tight race. If they beat CUC they win the title. Strong D returns with some O veterans plus the big QB transfer. 6-1

3. AU- They rebound after the bad 2009 season. The new QB is just like Peterson from the championship team. 5-2

4. WLC- They have 2 good RB's and a good QB. Their D could be their downfall against the big 3 (above). 4-3

5. LC- They will have a hard time against the top 4 (above). Their D was drilled by CUC last year. Could upset a top team at home. 3-4

6. BU- Lost alot of Seniors from their D. Their O is not much of a threat against the top 4. The CUC game will be interesting this year. 2-5

7. MBBC- This is the year. They beat  Rockford and win their first conference game. 1-6

8. RC- The late coaching change will hurt and a small roster does not help. 0-7

Trying to pick the finishing order is tough because I have only seen AU practice/scrimmage. I don't see the other teams and have to rely on Info from the Kickoff along with a few articles from local papers and school web sites. Good Luck to all the teams this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on August 27, 2010, 03:20:41 AM
Quote from: old 40 on August 26, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Finally the season is almost here. Here  are my guesses for the preseason predictions on the NAC.

1. CUC- Should be the class of the league. Great QB with the best receivers and RB's in the NAC. Big question will be can they beat CUW on the road. 6-1

2.CUW- Very tight race. If they beat CUC they win the title. Strong D returns with some O veterans plus the big QB transfer. 6-1

3. AU- They rebound after the bad 2009 season. The new QB is just like Peterson from the championship team. 5-2

4. WLC- They have 2 good RB's and a good QB. Their D could be their downfall against the big 3 (above). 4-3

5. LC- They will have a hard time against the top 4 (above). Their D was drilled by CUC last year. Could upset a top team at home. 3-4

6. BU- Lost alot of Seniors from their D. Their O is not much of a threat against the top 4. The CUC game will be interesting this year. 2-5

7. MBBC- This is the year. They beat  Rockford and win their first conference game. 1-6

8. RC- The late coaching change will hurt and a small roster does not help. 0-7

Trying to pick the finishing order is tough because I have only seen AU practice/scrimmage. I don't see the other teams and have to rely on Info from the Kickoff along with a few articles from local papers and school web sites. Good Luck to all the teams this year.

I just have to point this out because it irritates me to no end when people try to project records of teams. You have 27 wins and 29 losses.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mugsy on August 27, 2010, 10:05:18 AM
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on August 27, 2010, 03:20:41 AM
Quote from: old 40 on August 26, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Finally the season is almost here. Here  are my guesses for the preseason predictions on the NAC.

1. CUC- Should be the class of the league. Great QB with the best receivers and RB's in the NAC. Big question will be can they beat CUW on the road. 6-1

2.CUW- Very tight race. If they beat CUC they win the title. Strong D returns with some O veterans plus the big QB transfer. 6-1

3. AU- They rebound after the bad 2009 season. The new QB is just like Peterson from the championship team. 5-2

4. WLC- They have 2 good RB's and a good QB. Their D could be their downfall against the big 3 (above). 4-3

5. LC- They will have a hard time against the top 4 (above). Their D was drilled by CUC last year. Could upset a top team at home. 3-4

6. BU- Lost alot of Seniors from their D. Their O is not much of a threat against the top 4. The CUC game will be interesting this year. 2-5

7. MBBC- This is the year. They beat  Rockford and win their first conference game. 1-6

8. RC- The late coaching change will hurt and a small roster does not help. 0-7

Trying to pick the finishing order is tough because I have only seen AU practice/scrimmage. I don't see the other teams and have to rely on Info from the Kickoff along with a few articles from local papers and school web sites. Good Luck to all the teams this year.

I just have to point this out because it irritates me to no end when people try to project records of teams. You have 27 wins and 29 losses.

Some losses will be so bad they'll count for two?   :-\
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 27, 2010, 10:34:04 AM
I think he meant CUC to go 7-0......right?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 28, 2010, 02:19:33 PM
Anyone see any scrimmages this week end?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 30, 2010, 09:07:50 PM
Hey everyone, new to the board just wanted to say hey! I have been a follower of BU for the past 6 yrs, and will be at all of their games this upcoming season! I know BU lost a lot to graduation this year, but they got some very good talent returning as well as some very good transfers! To answer you old40, I caught the BU/Illinois Weslyan Scrimmage on Saturday!  I was very impressed with the way BU played against a very good IWU team! The defense shut them down very well and created a handful of TO's, a very athletic group of players... Offensively they had their top two WO's out (minor injuries) and also 2-3 starting linemen out (minor injuries) but were still able to move the ball quite well against a very very solid IWU defense! Both teams put together impressive drives but struggled in the red zone.  Benedictine has a serious player in #1 he will be one of the best players in the conference for the next few years! Defensively I thought # 2 had a solid scrimmage along with the linebacking core!!  Look for BU to suprise a few teams this year, in my opinion of course!  Talk to you all soon.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 31, 2010, 07:17:20 PM
Welcome d3fan1515 to the board. There has not been many people on this year. I hope once the season starts things will pick up.

Nice to hear BU has reloaded because they lost several starters. I think that # 1 started for them as a freshman and returned a punt against my team AU. He is good as I remember.

I was unable to see the AU scrimmage but my son was there and said that AU look OK but that North Central is loaded. The QB's looked good and it appears they have some young talent at all their skill positions. He said the coaches and kids a very optimistic about the season. IMHO they can win 2 non conference games.

Should be a good game when BU and AU meet Oct. 9. I think taht game is at AU. I know Their Coach Coop has his troops ready to play his old school. I hope AU is 3-1 going into that game.

D3fan1515. I hope who will make weekly game predictions. I try to guess the games every week. Usually not so well. Again welcome to the board and if you have not got the kick off I suggest you do so for only $10.00. It gives a good insight on all the NAC schools as well as all D3. After reading the info I did my pre season picks.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 01, 2010, 10:45:47 AM
Yes Old40 I was pretty nervous to see how the BU team would do in this scrimmage and I gotta say I was pretty impressed! Cooper said this is the best the BU squad has played against IWU team since they started scrimmaging... # 1 transferred to ISU for a year and ended up transferring back! I wouldn't be that worried about the AU scrimmage North Central is no joke lol! Ya I'll probably post some predictions for this week, probably later 2night! I'll also b at the Eureka/BU game this weekend so I'll keep the board posted! Good luck to all teams n I can't wait for the weekend!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: matblake on September 01, 2010, 10:58:44 AM
Just a heads up that the CCIW pick ems have started for this year.  If you wish to participate, the more the merrier.  Come join us!

For the rules, you can see Mugsy's post #672 on the CCIW pick em page.  Please note:  Picks are due this week by Friday at 5 PM (Central Time) due to the Friday Night Augustana game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 01, 2010, 01:39:45 PM
My guesses for the first week.

Rocford@Dubuque- This one will hurt Rockford- Dubuque wins 62-0.

AU@North Park- Close game but AU QB is the real deal. AU21-20.

BU @Eureka- BU should control the ball but must stop the devil spread O. BU 34-31.

Carrol@LC- Carrol has alot of returners but has to play on a bad field, should be close Carroll 24-14.

CUC@Lake Forest. CUC is loaded and wins easy 51-9.

CUW@Augsburg- The Falcons are ready this year. CUW 20-18.

Martin Luther@MBBC- Another tough game but is will be close. Martin Luther 21-13.

WLC@Ripon- Tough game for WLC. Ripon has alot of experience a very close game  Ripon 21-19.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 03, 2010, 11:18:05 AM
Rocford@Dubuque- Dubuque

AU@North Park- AU in a close game

BU @Eureka- Im hoping this game wont be as close as OLD40 thinks, I think the BU team should show n play well.  Offensively they are more explosive then they have been in the past and I think defensively Eureka's spread offense plays into the strength of the BU defense (Backers and DB's). Im gonna go out on a limb hear and say BU wins 35-14...

Carrol@LC- Carrol

CUC@Lake Forest. CUC

CUW@Augsburg- Augsburg

Martin Luther@MBBC- IDK much about Martin Luther, so im takin MBBC

WLC@Ripon- Ripon
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 03, 2010, 02:09:07 PM
Week 1 Picks:

Dubuque wins BIG over Rockford

AU by a touchdown over North Park

BU over Eureka in a close one

Carrol over LC

CUC easily over Lake Forrest

Augsburg over CUW

Martin Luther over MBBC in a tough, close game

Ripon over WLC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 03, 2010, 10:47:49 PM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Dubuque:
Aurora
Benedictine
Carroll
Concordia-Chicago
Concordia-WI
Martin Luther
Ripon
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 04, 2010, 03:14:38 PM
BU up at half 21-7
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 04, 2010, 04:08:17 PM
35-7 BU, 2min left in the 3rd
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 04, 2010, 05:12:55 PM
CUC over Lake Forest 52-23. Usual suspects on offense for CUC: Marotta with 5 td's passing; Copeland with over 130 yds. rushing.  #1 defense only gave up 3 pts.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 04, 2010, 05:52:28 PM
BU ended up winning 42-7, I'll have more later on!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 04, 2010, 07:02:37 PM
Aurora 9
North Park 7

The Spartans blocked an NPU punt early in the fourth quarter that the Vikings recovered but couldn't run out of the end zone before being tackled. That spelled the difference. All in all, the low score was not a fluke, as both AU and NPU have pretty lackluster offenses -- although both teams did have some standout defensive plays that helped hold down the score.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on September 04, 2010, 07:37:24 PM
I attended the CUC game today and saw what everybody suspected. The QB threw for 5 TDs, RB had about 140 yards rushing. The defense surprised me with how many players they got that can play.. It looked like they aren't too deep at the d line, but for linebackers they got about 8 of them that can all make plays and from the looks of it about 5 - 6 DBs that can all play as well, only gave up 3 points, until late in the game with a lot of subs in. I am curious to see next week against University of Chicago , to find how good the cougars really are... I am also  surprised with AU suppose to have a bounce back year,  and then had the game they had against NORTH PARK?????? BU seemed to have a good day though
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on September 05, 2010, 11:27:16 AM
Just reading stats can fool you sometimes. AU played a decent game. They moved the ball pretty well but just didn't finish. The O had almost 300 yards of offense. The D looked good versus a team that can't or won't pass the ball. It's kinda hard for any team to get going when the other team is shortening the game. I'd reserve further judgement until after next weeks AU game. Anyone who thought that NP is going to win a game in the CCIW should change that thought. You aren't going to win many college football games without passing the ball at all.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 05, 2010, 03:06:04 PM
au dad;

You are correct. You have to be aleast balanced. 85%-90% one usaully spells bad results.

I like the AU QB. He has alot of tools. They should blow MacMurray out next week and IMHO will give IWU a very good game. Was anyone surprised by the Bu or CUW game. Looks like BU can throw and run. Augsburg really put the hurt on CUW according to the stats. Well it's early but it is nice to see our conference have a little success in the non conference games for week 1.

Congrats to the winners.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 05, 2010, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: au dad on September 05, 2010, 11:27:16 AM
Just reading stats can fool you sometimes. AU played a decent game. They moved the ball pretty well but just didn't finish. The O had almost 300 yards of offense. The D looked good versus a team that can't or won't pass the ball. It's kinda hard for any team to get going when the other team is shortening the game. I'd reserve further judgement until after next weeks AU game. Anyone who thought that NP is going to win a game in the CCIW should change that thought. You aren't going to win many college football games without passing the ball at all.

Quote from: old 40 on September 05, 2010, 03:06:04 PM
au dad;

You are correct. You have to be aleast balanced. 85%-90% one usaully spells bad results.

NPU runs the option offense, gentlemen. Ever watched any of the service academies play? They run the option as well. Yesterday Army threw 11 passes the entire game, while Air Force threw 12 in its game. Navy averaged eight passes per game last year. The whole point of the option is to run the football on every play. If you throw more than a dozen passes per game, you're not playing the option properly.

This is the first full year that NPU has run the option. The Vikings will no doubt have a ton of growing pains with it, as yesterday demonstrated. It's an offense that demands pinpoint precision, and NPU is a long way away from the level of execution needed to make it work against most teams on this level. So, yes, they will be underdogs in every CCIW game that they play, just as they always are, regardless of what offense the Vikings are using. But to say that "you aren't going to win many college football games without passing the ball at all," simply shows that your knowledge of college football is lacking. Air Force has been to three straight bowl games. Schools like Nebraska and Oklahoma had massive success running the option in the '70s and '80s. Augustana won four straight D3 championships back in the '80s running the option, and was the CCIW's dominant program for long thereafter -- all while throwing half-a-dozen passes per game, at most.

The option can be successful, if you have the right personnel and you execute it properly.

As for the "shortening the game" excuse, that doesn't wash. Aurora had the ball for over nine minutes more than NPU did yesterday. The Vikings simply did a good job of keeping the Spartans out of the end zone.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: au dad on September 05, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
I will leave the above poster with this comment:


Comparing North Park's offense to the Augie's teams of the 80's or any of the Service Acacdemy's offense is not needed. It doesn't compare. Making a "guess"on someone's football knowledge without PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE of that person and their experience isn't something ANY OF US here should do.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 05, 2010, 09:01:07 PM
Quote from: au dad on September 05, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
I will leave the above poster with this comment:


Comparing North Park's offense to the Augie's teams of the 80's or any of the Service Acacdemy's offense is not needed. It doesn't compare.

It fully compares in terms of style, because for all intents and purposes the style is identical. It does not compare at all in terms of execution, for patently obvious reasons -- as I made quite clear in my earlier post.

Quote from: au dad on September 05, 2010, 08:48:43 PMMaking a "guess"on someone's football knowledge without PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE of that person and their experience isn't something ANY OF US here should do.

You made a sweeping statement -- "You aren't going to win many college football games without passing the ball at all" -- apparently without taking into consideration option-based teams that have won plenty of college football games (e.g., Air Force) without passing the ball. Given that you were in error, and that you did not demonstrate familiarity with a style of offense that has been a well-recognized part of the college-football landscape for decades, my response to you was fully warranted.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: oldnuthin on September 05, 2010, 09:07:49 PM
This is the first full year that NPU has run the option. The Vikings will no doubt have a ton of growing pains with it, as yesterday demonstrated.

Greg,  how many games did they run this offense last year? My understanding is that they ran this offense for 9 of their ten games last year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: maidenslayer77 on September 06, 2010, 05:25:57 PM
AU BLACK 'N BLUE!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 06, 2010, 09:43:26 PM
Caught BU this weekend at Eureka and was very impressed with the way the team handled themselves this week. The defense played hard and the offense was able to control the clock.  Defensively I felt like they were very good against a pretty good passimg attack from Eureka.  Eureka had some very good wideouts and their QB had a big arm. However, the defense was very composed and only gave up one bad drive which ended in the TD.  People who stood out defensively for me was #51 who had a sack and a couple tackles for loss and also the Defensive backfield!  Offensively, the eagles are pretty explosive! When was the last time a BU team threw the ball for over 300 yards, and 4 passing td's lol?? #4 and # 11 are very solid WO's, and if teams want to stack the box against BU this year they will have their handsfull trying to cover these guys man to man! #1 is the most explosive player in the offense he should of had 200 yards rushing, but runs of 80 and 40 yards were negated bc of penalties! BU used a two quarterback systme this week, and both kids played well! They both have pretty strong arms and we will see who gets the start this weekend against NPU. Good luck to all teams this coming weekend.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 07, 2010, 01:29:30 PM
Any info on NPU, I knw they run the option, but how about defensively?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 07, 2010, 02:42:15 PM
D3fan;

I thought NPU did OK on Defense. They only gave up 117 rushing yards anf 181 in the air. Aun did not do much except from 30-30. I thought they were  smaller that AU's Offensive line. Their LB's are good and the secondary played OK. Depth may be an issue as their eason moves forward.

Au will have to play better to beat IWU. They will be OK in the NAC and shouldhave only CUC to beat to win it.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 07, 2010, 07:31:28 PM
Quote from: oldnuthin on September 05, 2010, 09:07:49 PM
This is the first full year that NPU has run the option. The Vikings will no doubt have a ton of growing pains with it, as yesterday demonstrated.

Greg,  how many games did they run this offense last year? My understanding is that they ran this offense for 9 of their ten games last year.

No, NPU started running the option in the fifth game of the season on a part-time basis, but didn't commit to it 100% until the very last game. You can see a pretty dramatic break here in the 2009 team statistics between the fourth and fifth games in terms of the running/passing ratio on offense. (http://resources.northpark.edu/athletics/Football/2009/teamgbg.htm) Needless to say, the mid-season switch failed in spectacular fashion. It's not really the sort of thing that you can successfully install as a coach and pick up as a player in mid-season; you have to start working on the option from Day One in summer camp. But it did give the coaches and players at least a bit of familiarity with it, and it let everyone on the team know that it was the direction in which the NPU football program was committed to move.

Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 07, 2010, 01:29:30 PM
Any info on NPU, I knw they run the option, but how about defensively?

I think that old 40 pretty much summed up my impression of the North Park defense as well.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tm343407 on September 08, 2010, 10:45:15 AM
Greg is entirely correct. The option is something that takes years to get down pat, especially if you do not have the players designed to run it. Also with the comment AU dad made about not passing the ball, does show your lack of football knowledge with regards to that offense. The option is something that must be extremely well-executed in order to run properly. Don't expect NPU to get it down for a couple of years.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on September 08, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
All this talk of the triple option and lack of passing from NPU makes me wonder if I stumbled on a CCIW board by mistake?? ;D

Anyway, anybody got any predictions for this weeks games??
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 08, 2010, 05:36:05 PM
Quote from: bleedblue on September 08, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
All this talk of the triple option and lack of passing from NPU makes me wonder if I stumbled on a CCIW board by mistake?? ;D

Well, it was all the result of a post about the Aurora vs. North Park game from an Aurora poster that commented directly upon NPU's offensive philosophy. But, regardless, the thread is still relevant in terms of the NAthCon, inasmuch as NPU's opponent this coming Saturday is Benedictine.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 08, 2010, 07:14:27 PM
Greg

The NPU and BU game should be a good one and a very interesting one. NPU will run alot and based on last weeks game BU has gotten pass happy but they can run with the tailback they have. Field position and special teams will make the difference in this game.

I suspect that NPU will be much tougher opponent than Eureka (no slam intended). NPU is in the CCIW, even though they struggle, will have more athletes than Eureka did. The CCIW is one of the top 5 leagues in D3. Even if NPU is at the lower end they syill will be a tough opponent for any NAC team.

IMHO if BU can't stop the NPU running game then they eat time and win. If NPU can't stop the pass BU will win. Close game for sure with in 4-6 points.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 08, 2010, 07:27:37 PM
Early guesses for me this week.

AU@MacMurray- was close for 3.5 qtrs. LY but not this year. AU wins Big 38-14.

Carthage@LC- Stats show LC has no D or at least struggles there. Carthage is a throwing machine and their QB throws 5-6 TD's. Carthage  big 52-14.

CUC@Chicago- To much CUC Offense. They control the game and win. CUC 31-10.

CUW@Bethel- Minnesota may not be a kind place for CUW. Bethel wins easy 42-7.

Hope @WLC- Former MIAA opponents face off. WLC is much improved but Hope wins. 28-10.

Loras@Rockford- RU is in for another long year. Loras wins 36-0.

MBBC@Crown- MBBC showed last week they can score and their D has improved. Crown is a very good Offensive team. Crown wins 42-21.

BU@NPU- Another CCIW team. A close game. BU wins a squeaker 14-12.

Good Luck to everyone's team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tm343407 on September 08, 2010, 08:15:08 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 08, 2010, 07:14:27 PM
IMHO if BU can't stop the NPU running game then they eat time and win. If NPU can't stop the pass BU will win. Close game for sure with in 4-6 points.

Who wins if BU can't stop the run, and NPU can't stop the pass?  ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 09, 2010, 10:11:37 AM
Sat, Sep 11   Aurora @ MacMurray    1 p.m. AU
Sat, Sep 11   Carthage @ Lakeland 1 p.m. Carthage
Sat, Sep 11   Concordia Chicago @ Chicago 1 p.m.
Sat, Sep 11   Concordia Wisconsin @ Bethel 1 p.m. Concordia
Sat, Sep 11   Hope @ Wisconsin Lutheran 1 p.m. Hope
Sat, Sep 11   Loras @ Rockford 1 p.m. Loras
Sat, Sep 11   Maranatha @ Crown    1 p.m. Crown
Sat, Sep 11   Benedictine @ North Park   7 p.m. BU, I'd like to say by a bunch, but I heard NPU has a         solid D... A good test for the BU O let's c how they respond!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 09, 2010, 10:19:14 AM
I'm sorry, Bethel will win and so will Concordia Chicago
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 09, 2010, 12:17:58 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 08, 2010, 07:27:37 PM


Hope @WLC- Former MIAA opponents face off. WLC is much improved but Hope wins. 28-10.


I forgot that WLC used to be in the MIAA. What was the situation with that? I'm assuming that the MIAA needed a team to be an automatic bid conference. but why WLC? No other schools available? WLC is somewhat of a hike.  (That silly ol' Lake Michigan adds about 10 hours to the drive to and then back from Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 09, 2010, 12:51:09 PM
Yeah, you are right about the automatic bid aspect. That was also in Tri-State/Trine's relative infancy as a gridiron program. A few years later, seeing as the old Illini-Badger Football Conference nad the Northern IL/Iowa Conferences were breaking up, and Tri-State/Trine's status was upgraded from provisional in the MIAA, WLC figured that since a couple of those old IBFC/NIIC schools were looking to form a new league anyway, and it gregraphically made better sense, WLC became part of the NAthCon.  

Correct me on any inaccuracy in the above
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CrazyHorse on September 09, 2010, 01:50:22 PM
WLC will have its hands full with Hope but it should be a good game, and will come down to who can play the best D in the 4th quarter. A side note #1 from Benedictine is a hell of a player. Why did he transfer from Southern Illinois? Correct me if I'm wrong on the school. I remember him playing two years ago for them and he was a man among boys in the NAC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: oldnuthin on September 09, 2010, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: CrazyHorse on September 09, 2010, 01:50:22 PM
WLC will have its hands full with Hope but it should be a good game, and will come down to who can play the best D in the 4th quarter. A side note #1 from Benedictine is a hell of a player. Why did he transfer from Southern Illinois? Correct me if I'm wrong on the school. I remember him playing two years ago for them and he was a man among boys in the NAC

It was illinois state, and walk ons are not that highly prized. coaches prefer to go with who they recruit.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 10, 2010, 05:37:35 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses for Week 2:

Aurora
Carthage
CUC
Bethel
Hope
Loras
Crown
Benedictine
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 12, 2010, 10:19:35 AM
Fantastic, exciting game at NPU last night. The Vikings were completely stymied on offense in the first half, while Benedictine had two long drives -- an 80-yarder for an eventual TD, and another that also started at the BU twenty that NPU stifled with a fourth-and-one stop at the Vikings three yard line. The Vikings were lucky to only be down 7-0 at the half.

In the third quarter it was as though someone turned on the light switch for the NPU offense. Suddenly the option started working. Matt Hassan (159 yds) squirted through the middle for seven, eight yards at a clip, while Tyler Krebs kept the BU offense honest with his quickness at getting to the edge. Down 14-0, the Vikings scored 17 unanswered points to take the lead early in the fourth quarter.

A fumble at midfield gave Benedictine a short field with which to work, and the Bennies retook the lead midway through the final quarter, although the fact that they ganked the PAT attempt off the upright gave everyone hope that NPU could tie it back up with a FG. That wasn't necessary, as the Vikings marched down the field and regained the lead with 3:53 left on a Krebs TD run that made it 24-20, NPU.

That left a lot of time on the clock, though, and BU quickly got down into the red zone with under a minute left. Facing a fourth and two at the NPU 13 with forty seconds left in the game, Benedictine quarterback Preston Earl rolled right, spotted a man open at the goal line along the right sideline, and threw what looked for a split second like the game-winning TD -- only to see senior North Park DB Nick Pantaleo (14 tackles, seven solo) jump in front of the pass, pick it off, cut back across the entire field through traffic, and arrive in the end zone along the left sideline 99 yards later. It not broke a fifty-year-old record for the longest INT return in North Park history, it also went from one sideline to the other. It was an absolutely electrifying play that turned possible defeat into victory. The stands at Hedstrand Field were rocking.

Sure was good to hear the team raise their helmets and sing "Hail to the Varsity" after that one.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 12, 2010, 05:57:40 PM
CUC......Ouch
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 12, 2010, 08:13:41 PM
WLCAlum and WLCAlum83:

Although I posted my thoughts about the WLC/Hope game over on our MIAA board, I just wanted to congratulate you guys on your team's win yesterday.  Great win for WLC; bad loss for Hope, obviously.  I was at the game and enjoyed seeing your college's facilities.  Very nice for the size of your school and especially the scoreboard is great, although I do hope they eventually build visitors locker room/building at the open end of the stadium at some point in the future.  The only other minor draw back that I see is the facilities being a slight distance from the campus - makes the students and fans have to travel a bit to get there, yet obviously they don't mind since it appears they draw a nice, decent crowd for the home games.  Not as much as Hope's home crowds, but then Hope is in a different situation being right in town, with more community being around and able to attend.  Nonetheless, WLC program has come a long way - congrats and best wishes for the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 12, 2010, 08:41:48 PM
Thanks much! I've given a more elaborate reply on the MIAA board.

:) ;) :D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on September 13, 2010, 10:46:27 AM
Went to the AU vs MacMurray game. AU took advantage early, jumping out to a quick 28-0 lead early in the 2nd qtr and never looked back. MacMurray got increasingly upset as the game went on and you can kinda guess what happened from there. AU dominated on both sides of the ball versus a young, undermanned opponent. Looking forward to seeing how AU does versus IWU this weekend. It should be a good guage on this AU team. I would expect a contest that may well be closer then most would think.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: maidenslayer77 on September 13, 2010, 11:45:59 AM
AU BLACK 'N BLUE
BRING ON THE TITANS!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 13, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
I can't even explain how happy I was that BU lost to North Park....BU's roster must be filled with turds
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 13, 2010, 02:17:29 PM
Either there is a mistake on Rockford's schedule or whoever does their scheduling needs to be fired because they only have 3 home games this year.....being a terrible team and playing 7 games on the road is not a good combo
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 13, 2010, 02:49:56 PM
dizzle52

Looks like some one really screwed up. The other NAC schools have three or four home conference games. It was either the AD of the Head coach who left. Maybe next year it evens out at 7 home games. But Ouch that is a tough pill to take.


I would not yet conclude that BU's roster is loaded with Turds. Had they been beaten by Eureka in a blow out then maybe your conclusion is valid. Wait and see what they do in the next three games. The AU game, their 2nd conference game, will be the tale of the tape for them. I have heard that the BU Senior transfer QB is very good, even though he has not played in a game for a year or so. If they beat AU, IMHO they will not, then they are for real.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 13, 2010, 02:56:42 PM
Congrats to AU and WLC on their wins this week. Looks like the Spartans are back in first place and on their way to a possible run. The new QB is great and makes this team a favorite to win the NAC. IWU may be in for a big surprize this week at AU.

WLC has certainly flexed it's muscle with the big win over their formet MIAA foe. Looks Like WLC and AU may fight it out for the top spot.

What happened to CUC. I read score in the trib and was surprized. Did something happen to their QB or RB? Anyone at the game and has info?

Two weeks till the race for the bid begins.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 13, 2010, 03:50:57 PM
Quote from: old 40 on September 13, 2010, 02:56:42 PM
What happened to CUC. I read score in the trib and was surprized. Did something happen to their QB or RB? Anyone at the game and has info?

My daughter got to Stagg Field one minute into the game and Chicago had already scored. They then proceded to put up 35 points in the last 20 minutes of the half on their way to a 42 point first half  :o. CUC couldn't make up for UC big plays early including a 66 yard TD run, a 38 yard TD pass, a blocked punt for a TD, a 47 yard pass, and a  60 yard pass. Meanwhile, their offense moved the ball somewhat but had two interceptions - one in the red zone - and a sack on 4th down in the red zone, all in the first half.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 13, 2010, 09:42:57 PM
Caught the BU game at NPU this Saturday and what a tough loss for the Eagles!  The Eagles had full control of that game and to lose with under 4 min to go is very aggravating! I don't know what happened from the first half to the second half with the Eagle defense? In the first half NPU's offense could not move the ball!  In the second half the NPU offense completely dominated the defensive front of the Eagles! The Offense from the Eagles is very good, NPU has a pretty good defense however the Eagles were still able to put up 20 points and over 400 yards of offense! The Eagles O is very young but already the strength of this team, this unit is going to get more confidence and better and better each week! Defensively they need to mature up front fast! I think this team will still be able to make a nice run in the conference and I definitely would not sleep on this team as they are far from TURDS! Aurora was only able to put up 7 points on the NPU D does that make everyone on their offense turds?? Luckily for a safety or who knows how that game ends up. No game for BU this week, I look foward to seeing how this team responds against Kalamazoo in two weeks at their home opener! Good luck to all teams this up coming weekend hopefully the conference has more success this week then last!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 14, 2010, 12:13:27 PM
PICKS FOR WEEK 3
RC loses to a weak Alma team            
WLC over Minnesota-Morris               
Carthage sends CUW to 0-3         
CUC bounces back over St. Scholastica    
Macalester over MBBC in a battle of the suckie all stars               
AU surprises Illinois Wesleyan
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: maidenslayer77 on September 15, 2010, 12:05:51 AM
Hey d3fan1515,

A win is a win buddy. I don't care if a team puts up a field goal on an opponent and wins 3-0. AU struggled a bit their first game and still got that W. Came out week 2 and destroyed a Macmurray team that didn't deserve to be on the same field as them.

The Spartans will surprise a few folks this weekend. IWU were picked to tie for 3rd in the CCIW when they were co champs last year.

AU BLACK 'N BLUE!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 15, 2010, 12:36:02 PM
Hey Slayer,

I knew that comment was coming! Ur right,  a win is a win, I was just making a connection to a pretty rediculous comment! The connection is AU and BU both played NPU to very close games! I understand AU pulled it out but it couldve easily went the other way! AU vs. BU will b a very good game this yr... In my opinion, I think that game will come down to the wire, we'll see in a couple weeks. I'm curious to see how AU does this week against IWU. Good luck to all teams this week!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 15, 2010, 08:44:04 PM
Week 3 guesses.

Carthage@CUW- CUW will play great at home and their head coach used to coach at Carthage so it will be a very good game.  Carthage wins 28-27.

MBBC@Macalester- MBBC will play tough but loses on the road. Macalester wins 21-13.

Minnesota-Morris@WLC- WLC builds on last weeks big win. WLC runs over Morrirris 31-12.

St. Scholastica@CUC- I could not believe CUC lost last week. They come back big. CUC wins 54-18.

RC@Alama- Alma is down a bit from previous years but has a lot of bullets in their gun. Alma wins 28-13.

IWU@AU- Not many victories over the CCIW but this week is a big upset by the Spartans. AU wins a close one 21-20.

BU and LC have Byes this week.

Good Luck to all the Nac teams this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 16, 2010, 09:02:02 PM
WLCALUM83's Week 3 guesses:

Carthage
Macalester
WLC
CUC
Alma
IL Wes
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 17, 2010, 02:05:25 PM
Where has RustyShackleford been????
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 01:00:22 PM
Rockford/Alma just getting underway as I post:
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 01:09:10 PM
Alma 3, Rockford 0  10:01 left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 01:25:40 PM
Rockford 7, Alma 3  Just less than 3 min left in 1st Qrtr

Regents got an INT return for a TD
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 02:04:36 PM
Rockford 7, Alma 3 --Half
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 02:47:41 PM
Rockford 10, Alma 3  Less than 3:00 to go in the 3rd Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 03:00:47 PM
Alma 10, Rockford 10  Just over 11 minutes left in 4th Qrtr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 03:07:15 PM
Alma 17, Rockford 10  Just over 9 min. left in 4th

(Scots tried an onside kick, then moved the ball right down the field).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 03:26:21 PM
Alma 20, Rockford 10  Less than 2 minutes left in 4th.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 03:31:08 PM
Alma 27, Rockford 10  58 seconds left in 4th

(Scots returned an INT for a TD)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 03:34:37 PM
Alma 27, Rockford 10 --Final

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
Look-ins:

Per St. Scholastica feed:
Concordia-Chicago up 35-0 with less than 4 minutes left in the 3rd Quarter.

Maranatha trailing Macalester 14-0  less than 2 minutes left in 3rd

WLC 33,  MN-Morris 14  Approx 8 minutes left in 3rd Qrtr.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 18, 2010, 09:27:26 PM
AU was impressive today. The D look very good as IWU had to earn everything they got. Bevell is making strides each week. Despite the lost it was the best game of the year for Sparty againt a good team.  They are IMHO the team to beat in the NAC. However WLC (congrats on their victory) and CUC (also congrats) will have alot to say about who represents the NAC in the playoffs.

AU opens conference  in 2 weeks which sould be an easy win over LC who is down this year, currentlu 0-2. The WLC and CUC games will be great excitement for the Spartans. Should be a great run for the Spartans.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on September 18, 2010, 09:36:08 PM
Old 40 nailed it. AU played a great game. To say that AU came up just short would be an understatement. IWU is a good team and AU proved they could play with anyone. If IWU is the 24th ranked team in D3, then the NAC is going to surprise a lot of people the rest of the year. AU played with them, out gained them, out played them and outhit them. IWU won on the scoreboard and deserve all the praise. But that AU team just let everyone know that AU is going to be no cupcake the rest of the year!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 19, 2010, 01:17:44 AM
Quote from: bleedblue on September 18, 2010, 09:36:08 PM
Old 40 nailed it. AU played a great game. To say that AU came up just short would be an understatement. IWU is a good team and AU proved they could play with anyone. If IWU is the 24th ranked team in D3, then the NAC is going to surprise a lot of people the rest of the year. AU played with them, out gained them, out played them and outhit them. IWU won on the scoreboard and deserve all the praise. But that AU team just let everyone know that AU is going to be no cupcake the rest of the year!!!

No offense to the Aurora squad, but IWU is the 24th ranked team in the country based on last seasons result and the fact they haven't lost yet this year.  While a solid team, they only have 11 or 12 returning starters.  It remains to be seen just how strong they are.  Even IWU followers are questioning the 24th ranking right now.

High early season rankings were discussed last week on the CCIW board and the Wheaton 2009 squad was mentioned as a example.  Last year Wheaton was very highly ranked, climbing as high as #4.  Most feel Wheaton's high ranking in 2009 was based on their semi-final year in 2008.  Turns out when they hit the meat of their schedule they lost their last 3 games of the season to finish 7-3.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 20, 2010, 12:02:35 PM
Rankings can be tricky....maybe IWU doesn't deserve top 25 but they are still undefeated....until they prove otherwise, they belong there.....if a team deserves/does not deserve a top 25 ranking, their on field play will prove it
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 20, 2010, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: dizzle52 on September 20, 2010, 12:02:35 PM
Rankings can be tricky....maybe IWU doesn't deserve top 25 but they are still undefeated....until they prove otherwise, they belong there.....if a team deserves/does not deserve a top 25 ranking, their on field play will prove it

Yup.  My point was more to the fact that while IWU (and Wheaton) are in the top 25 right now, it is more based on last years results and the fact they are both undefeated thus far.  Right now they do belong there, but true validation of their relative strength will be exposed as the season progresses. The next 3 or so weeks will begin to show whether or not they are in fact that caliber of team.  Wheaton & IWU play on Oct 2nd., so we'll probably get the first sign on which of those teams truely belongs in the top 25.

As bleedblue mentioned, teams in the NAC should take notice of Aurora given how tough they played IWU, who is clearly a very solid team.  But at this point I would not go too far down the path of saying if IWU is the 24th ranked team in D3, then Aurora can play with anyone.  IMO it is too early to say that about IWU...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 20, 2010, 02:02:49 PM
I agree....the AU/IWU game should come as a MAJOR warning to the other NAC teams....the last time AU played IWU this close was in 2008 (3 point game)....after that loss, AU ran the table through the conference
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 20, 2010, 02:15:08 PM
Week 4 Picks:

Hope in a close game over LC to put the muskies @ 0-3
      
BU bounces back at home over Kalamazoo
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 20, 2010, 03:24:59 PM
Now that most of the non-conference schedule is out of the way, are there any changes to anyones pre-season's conference predictions? Some observations:

CUC - Hammered two weak opponents, lost to a decent one. In all their games the offense has moved the ball (which is expected) but the defense got shredded against Chicago while looking good against the weaker ones. Time will tell. . .

Lakeland - Two close losses in which they've scored some points, but against teams that are undefeated. Their one point OT loss to Carthage says to me that Lakeland will be in the hunt. Their game against Hope will give some comparison points to WLC.

CUW - Hard to figure. Three lopsided losses albeit to three undefeated teams. They seem to be struggling to move the ball, but again, their opponents seem to be pretty strong. Common opponent with Lakeland - Carthage; I'd keep Lakeland above CUW at this point.

WLC - Nice victory over Hope, but folks in the MIAA are having real questions about the strength of their conference in general and Hope in particular. We'll see how Lakeland does against Hope. If Lakeland loses to Hope (and Hope snaps their ___game non-conference losing skid), then WLC may challenge for the title.

Aurora - Their win over North Park would keep them above Benedictine anyhow, but their tough, tight loss to IWU makes me think that they should be at or near the top.


Rockford - Again, are they very much improved, or did Alma sleepwalk through the first three quarters against them? I think they're about right at #7.


Benedictine - Closs loss to North Park. Blowout win over a questionable Eureka. A loss to K-zoo would either indicate that the MIAA is still a lot stronger than the NAC or that Bennie was slotted about right in the pre-season poll. I personally think that they're going to finish higher than 6th in the NAC. The game vs. CUC on the 2nd will tell a ton about the conference.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 20, 2010, 04:32:38 PM
So some of you have predicted Hope over Lakeland.  Will the Muskies go to 0-3 or will Hope go to 0-4? ???  I may be biased, but I think Hope will get its first non-conference win since 2004 to break the streak since we'll be at home.  However, stranger things have happened.

Can any of you relate what Lakeland's strengths are?  I don't know much about this year's team.   Also, will they be coming "across the pond" via the ferry or taking the long bus ride "around the horn"?  
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CrazyHorse on September 20, 2010, 05:23:57 PM
Aurora almost beat IWU, and Hope almost beat IWU in week 1. WLC beat Hope in week 2 in a close game and I would say that this means all of these teams are very similar. CUC will be a tough contest with their offensive firepower as always. The close game for them against IWU is similar to 2 years ago when they lost to IWU by 3 points and eventually won the conference. It will be a great race for the title!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 20, 2010, 08:36:15 PM
RFMichigan

My preseasonpicks were CUC, CUW, AU WLC, LC, BU, MBBC and RC.

I making a small shuffle based on what has happened so far.

1-CUC- To much Offense and their D is improving.
2-AU- Their new QB is very good. There D looked very strong against IWU.
3-WLC- Will cause everyone to be more than readyto play them. Looks like it could be there year to get CUW.
4- CUW- Tough competition will have them ready for the NAC. They have to find their O.
5- BU- The passing wide open game has bit them and are doing good things. If they stop K-Zoo cold then they will surpise.
6-LC-Looks like they can pass but no run and no D. Will struggle to win 2 games.
RC-  Alma must be down, but the regents moved the ball each week better and better.
MBBC- They may get a win this year. The $1,000,000 question is who gets stung!

I agree with the posters that it will be a good race this year. The top 3 teams have a lot of big "MO" going for them.

PS: I wouldn't bet a dime on my guesses, even if you could.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 22, 2010, 01:50:42 PM
I think lakeland will get at W this week.

I think BU should bounce back against Kzoo, like I said when BU played Eureka, BU's strength on defense is their athleticism at the linebacker position and their experience in the defensive backfield.  I am more nervous for this defense when a team lines up and plays smash mouth football with them (North Park) due to their lack of experience on the D-Line and overall size at the linebacker position! Their linebackers are also inexperienced up front, but against a passing team they get into good drops and are athletic once they are were they need to be!  I think the offense will continue to improve upon in already good unit and they will put up some big numbers this Saturday! The O-Line is a good, but young unit (4 Sophmores and a SR I think) up front and they will continue to improve each week as they get more game experience! 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 22, 2010, 07:31:22 PM
Slow week in the NAC. Most have a bye and getting ready for League play to begin.

This weeks guess's;

Kalamazoo@BU- Game of the week. The ball will be flying all over the field. IMHO over 100 passes. BU wins 42-38

LC@Hope-Neither school has won a non league game for a while. The stats look as though LC can pass but can't run and their D can't stop either. Hope has been suspect against the run and has a good Senior RB. Hope wins at home 24-14.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 23, 2010, 06:55:49 PM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Hope
Kzoo
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 25, 2010, 12:46:28 PM
Lakeland/Hope up shortly:
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 25, 2010, 04:13:09 PM
Lakeland 27, Hope 12  Final
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 26, 2010, 06:03:49 PM
WLCALUM83

That LC final was a surprise to me. Congrats to LC on the win.

Did anyone catch the BU game? I was there last night and BU has some very good receivers and maybe the best back in the league in Borsellino. IMHO he is as good as the Copeland kid from CUC but a bit faster. BU QB was a good passer.
This sets up a big game this week in Lisle. Everyone in the stands was talking about the CUC game.
The prople sitting around us did not take Kalamazoo very serious since they had not won a game. The 4th qtr was really exciting as both teams fired bombs for TD's. IMHO BU let this get away. after coming back from 10 down and going ahead with just a little left to play.
I would love to see this game next week but will be at AU to see the Spartans start their run to the championship.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 29, 2010, 09:38:40 PM
Quite slow this week on the NAC Channel.

This weeks guesses for Opening week of the NAC:

RC@CUW- CUW wins big. The tough non-conference schedule has them ready 48-6.

WLC@MBBC-WLC wins but MBBC fights with a strong defensive effort in 1st half. WLC wins it 28-12.

LC@AU- AU begins their "run the table" against LC. AU has to much Defense and shuts down LC. AU wins 31-6.

Game of the week;
CUC@BU- Can BU keep the O going like they have in their first 3 games. A  new founded Pass O, this year, with a quick running game will keep CUC on their heels. IF BU controls the ball they win. Can't give up a come back like last week against Kalamazoo. CUC34-BU31 OT in a great game.

Good Luck to everyones team this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 30, 2010, 11:09:43 AM
RC @ CUW- CUW wins big.

WLC @ MBBC- WLC wins big.

LC @ AU- This will be a good game, LC played a more difficult non-conf schedule and I think it prepared them well for NAC play.  Im taking LC over AU in a close one.

Game of the week:

CUC @ BU- Two tough losses for BU so far this season, offense has been impressive and defense has played well at times but aren't finishing! If BU can put a complete game together I think they can get a W this weekend, if not then it's gonna be a long day for the eagles.  The BU D has to force three and outs and the BU O has to control the clock!

OLD40,

I was at the BU game last week, what a great game a shame it ended the way it did!! I agree with you about Borsellino, he is a tough kid and will make you miss or run u over.  I also agree with you on the passing game, they have some talented receivers and will open it up on you if u try and stack the box! I like the QB's they are both talented, but I really wish they would stop rotating the two it doesn't let one guy get into a rhythm.  Let the SR play and the other will develop nicely for next yr.   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on September 30, 2010, 12:54:21 PM
This weeks games:

RC @ CUW---RC is improving and they will surprise someone soon....This is NOT the week...CUW  35-9

WLC @ MBB----WLC is the most underrated team in the conference....WLC 42-6

LC @ AU----This game is going to come down to if LC can stop AU's offense. If AU can run the ball, I would say  that this could get ugly. LC is going to have a tough time scoring on AU's d. AU wins 28-7

CUC @ BU---- I watched the BU game last week on the video feed...BU can score but do they have enough playmakers to stay with CUC?? No!! This game is either going to be a real close win for BU or a CUC blowout...Since everyone else seems to think it's gonna be close..I'll take the blowout...CUC 42-14
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 30, 2010, 02:13:03 PM
Week 5 Picks

WLC romps MBBC
      
CUC is too much for BU
      
CUW rolls terrible RC
      
AU squeaks by LC
Title: CUC Defense vs. BU
Post by: Boss on September 30, 2010, 04:58:33 PM
CUC @ BU

In looking at this game It seems that people don't believe in the CUC Defense? I'm here to tell you that little do people know but the CUC defense has some very good players and in no shape or form would I underestimate them!  In fact, I would expect their defense to be the difference in this one!  Their defense gets a bad wrap because they have to follow a spread offense that moves the ball up and down the field fairly quick!  Their defense spends a great deal of time on the field as a result of their spread "O" which is extremely difficult on any defense!  Anyone that knows anything about defense knows what a strain a spread "O" can put on it's own defense!  CUC's offense is what it is but I tell you that if they ran more of a ball control offense you would see some great efforts out of their defense!  Either way spread "O" or not their defense has played well & the game against Chicago U the whole team got ripped not just the defense!  They were beat in all facets in that one!  That was just one game and I would expect that you will see some good efforts out of their defense during conference play!  Despite following a spread offense my prediction is that you will see the CUC defense get some important stops when needed and that is what counts!

My prediction:  CUC 42 - BU 21  (with 1 garbage TD late for BU)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 30, 2010, 05:05:19 PM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

WLC
CUC
CUW
Lakeland
Title: This weeks winners!
Post by: Boss on September 30, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
This weeks winners include:

CUW
WLC
AU
CUC


Title: Question
Post by: Boss on September 30, 2010, 05:35:39 PM
Who is the best home team & who is the best road team in the NAC?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 30, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
Quote from: Boss on September 30, 2010, 05:35:39 PM
Who is the best home team & who is the best road team in the NAC?

In terms of in-conference only results since NAthCon conference play began in 2008:

Best home team:  Aurora and Lakeland have both gone 6-1 at home in-conference

Best road team:  Lakeland has gone 5-2 on the road in-conference.
Title: Re: NAC Question
Post by: Boss on September 30, 2010, 08:53:53 PM
Interesting! Thanks for the information!
Title: Re: Best home & Road teams in the NAC!
Post by: Boss on September 30, 2010, 09:10:45 PM
I can see why AU & Lakeland are two of the toughest teams to play year in and year out!  There usually is valuable information within the numbers and those speak for themselves!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 30, 2010, 11:20:14 PM
BOSS

Good post and glad to have you on the board. 

IMHO LC has a home advantage because of the terrible facility they have. I was at last years AU game and the field was muddy, very little grass and looked like a junior high school facility in cow town USA.

AU is small but very loud. Usually a full house each game. The IWU game was very, very noisy.

BU could have a home field advantage but their crowds are very small for the size of their facility.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Funk on October 01, 2010, 12:31:42 AM
My Picks

AU

CUW

WLC

CUC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on October 01, 2010, 04:31:46 PM
I am very much looking forward towards the show down of BU and CUC tomorrow. I think with BU having their homecoming and what happened last year is going to cause a great atmosphere  for tomorrow's game. I hope it is a good game from a fans standpoint. CUC has a lot to motivate them with how BU destroyed their Cinderella season last year and  ,you guys saying BU's RB is as good as CUC's , but faster. I think if the cougars D can hold BU's offense to limited points, CUC's offense is just to much for BU. Tomorrow is a big day to find out if CUC is the preseason hype myself and many others gave them... Wish all teams good luck tomorrow and hope to see a good game
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 02, 2010, 03:35:32 PM
BU 28   CUC 14    at the half
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 02, 2010, 03:38:23 PM
Now with 13 min. to go in the 3rd quarter 28 BU  CUC 21. (And Bennie's video production is 1st rate.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 02, 2010, 03:46:38 PM
CUC gets the ball back and scores with 9:00 to go in the 3rd quarter but donks the extra point. 28-27 BU.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 02, 2010, 04:05:12 PM
End of the 3rd quarter at Benedictine - BU - 28    CUC 27 w/ BU at the CUC 5.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 02, 2010, 04:20:05 PM
BU scores but misses XP. CUC then goes down, converts a 4th & 1 in their own territory, and goes down to score and tie it at 34 w/ 10 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 02, 2010, 04:46:53 PM
Crazy game in Lisle. CUC ties it at 41 w/ just over a minute to go, but BU driving w/ just under a minute. These defenses just are having a hard time stopping each other.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 02, 2010, 04:50:29 PM
Wow. Bennie just runs right downfield, and even though they only needed a field goal to win it, they keep passing down deep in CUC territory. Then the QB scores after getting chased from the pocket with 12 seconds to go.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on October 02, 2010, 07:08:06 PM
Well the BU and CUC game was a great game and hats off to both teams. CUC's offense is not the problem for the 2-2 cougars. And it is no secret now , if you want to beat them all you have to do is pass. As a fan I don't know if it is because the secondary is that bad or the person calling the plays is putting them in bad situations. The way conference plays out should be very interesting. How did the other NAC games play out???????????
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 02, 2010, 07:58:52 PM
As I said in my post earlier this week the BU offense has been impressive, and they were! The BU defense did just enough to get us by this week, but im gonna give them the benefit of the doubt bc CUC's offense is extremely good!  For BU to win the conference the defense HAS to get better and hopefully they will. Someone previously posted that BU doesn't have enough playmakers to compete... I think Borsellino, Austin and Trombetta had something to say about that as all three of them had very good games.  I think the two QBs that played in this game (Marotta/Earl) are the class of the conference and they both had huge games! I haven't seen anyone else in the conference play so far besides BU and CUC, but I think that there are 6 contenders to compete for the NAC championship this year in BU, CUC, AU, WLC, and I'll never count out lakeland and CUW as they are near the top every year!! One loss def. does not put you out of the race.  BU made a big statement today with this W and hopefully they can take this momentum into next week against AU. 

BTW, if any team in the NAC has a mediocre offensive day against CUC they will blow you out of the water.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on October 03, 2010, 11:43:39 AM
Saw AU play Lakeland yesterday. This game was interesting to say the least. I said in my predictions that if AU could run the ball, it could get ugly. AU couldn't run the ball very well at all. The Muskies turned the ball 7 times and you just are not going to win turning it over like that on the road. AU's defense is as good as advertised. This d is very good this year but the AU offense must improve. This week's game is going to be interesting....BU has a good offense and AU has a stout defense!! This game is going to be very fun to watch!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: maidenslayer77 on October 03, 2010, 12:17:59 PM
AU rippin' up the Muskies

AU BLACK 'N BLUE!!!!
Title: Re: CUC Defense vs. BU
Post by: dizzle52 on October 04, 2010, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: Boss on September 30, 2010, 04:58:33 PM
CUC @ BU

Their defense gets a bad wrap because they have to follow a spread offense that moves the ball up and down the field fairly quick!  Their defense spends a great deal of time on the field as a result of their spread "O" which is extremely difficult on any defense!  Anyone that knows anything about defense knows what a strain a spread "O" can put on it's own defense! 



I have to disagree Boss.  If you consider a defense to be good, then they have to be good with no excuses.  Following a spread offense who scores a TON of points for them in not an excuse.  It's an advantage.  A great defense will play close to a high level no matter how long they are on the field.  Getting gashed for 41 points (I'll give you that BU is a good team) will not win you any defensive awards.  This is not high school football where 9 of the 11 starters are playing both ways.  As of right now, CUC does not have a good defense and it shows.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: maidenslayer77 on October 04, 2010, 09:18:51 PM
Just to follow dizzle's statement....does CUC stil run a 3-3-5? If you don't have an active front 6, that defense is pretty pointless. I am a former player at AU we just blew CUC up with big run after big run year after year.

Defense wins championships. END. OF. STORY
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 05, 2010, 12:44:35 PM
Slayer,

I can't remember if they were in a 3x3x5 or a 4x3, but I do think CUC's DL and LBs were much better then their DBs. BU torched them all day through the air.  What do you guys think about BU-AU and also CUC-WLC?? Any thoughts and predictions?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 05, 2010, 02:11:04 PM
The AU/BU game is going to be a great one.  It's a huge rivalry and it's AU's Homecoming.  BU has an explosive offense but AU is playing great D and that is what wins big games....AU takes advantage of home field advantage and wins a close game that could come down to the very last play

I think CUC/WLC could be a good game, but in the end the Cougar O will be too much for Lutheran
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 06, 2010, 10:17:13 AM
I agree with dizzle, both teams r comin off of big wins n each team is bringing momentum into the game! Both teams r also going to b jacked up due to this game being the rivalry that it is!

I feel if BU can move the ball and handle the front 4 of the AU D then they can pull out the W! The BU D also has to get off the field this week! They can't give up chunks of yardage like they did against CUC, if they do AU will win this game. I also think this is going to be a close game, this is a classic match up of O vs. D and it should come down to the wire.

CUC key to victory: "Defense": I have yet to see WLC, but I saw CUC n there offense is the real deal. If the D can play better they should win this game!

WLC keys to victory: "Ball Control": WLC needs to b able to keep the CUC O off the field, if they r able to then I like their chances.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 07, 2010, 08:13:19 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses for 10/9 games:

Ben @ AU:  Aurora at home in a tight one-- if they can slow down Borselion & Co. enough.
Maranatha @ CUW:  Falcons
Rockford @ Lakeland:  Muskies get another win at home.

WLC @ CUC:  Thouigh my heart would go with the Warriors-I'm going with my head on this one.  1)  Cougars are at home, 2) I'd be surprised if they had an off day against the same squad 2 years in a row. 3) This will be a big early-season test for WLC's D

Pick:  Concordia-Chicago.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on October 07, 2010, 09:28:02 AM
This weeks picks:

AU

CUW

LC

WLC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Funk on October 07, 2010, 02:52:14 PM
CUW shocks the college football world and beats the heavily favored Crusaders 34-0.

Lakeland bounces back and beats the mighty regents 28-7

WLC over CUC 35-21

IMO game of the week: AU vs BU

AU at home avenges last years loss in Lisle

Spartans win 24-21

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 07, 2010, 10:28:12 PM
This week's guess's

WLC@CUC- Run vs pass. CUC wins a thriller 48-44.

RC@LC- LC looked bad at AU. RC is starting to gell. Closer than most would think. LC wins 28-18.

MBBC@CUW- CUW gets 2 wins in a row. CUW 31-12.

BU@AU- AU's D shut LC down with pressure and great pass coverage. BU will have to run to win and play really good D. AU in a close one 21-19.

Good Luck to everyones team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on October 09, 2010, 08:14:52 PM
Congrats to BU for their win today. They capitalized on AU mistakes and won. BU has a great O but their D isn't a stout defense. BU took the short field that AU gave them with turnovers and did what a team is suppose to do, they scored!!! NO TEAM can turn the ball over 4 straight times and win.  BU took the AU mistakes, scored and won the game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Just Bill on October 09, 2010, 09:03:21 PM
I've heard that a Rockford College football player needed to be airlifted from the game at Lakeland.  Sounds like he may have collapsed postgame.  Anyone witness or have any information on the incident?
Title: CUC 38 - WLC 21
Post by: Boss on October 10, 2010, 12:14:46 AM
CUC 38 - WLC 21

CUC got back on track today and they did so against a tough WLC team!  CUC's defense came up big today after their stinker last week against Benedictine! 
I will tell you I made comments last week about CUC's defense being one that I don't think people should over look!  They came back today and backed my thoughts!  There is no doubt that the CUC defense needs to improve on some of their bad performances (last week being one)!  I just know that this group is capable of playing the way they did today which was very good!  I never expected for them to play the way they did against Benedictine!  They absolutely looked lost in that game and I'm not sure why?  They didn't even look like they were playing the same "D" they had been playing in previous games?  I take nothing from Benedictine's offense (which is a good one) but CUC looked like they hadn't played together all year!  Now whether it was a change in defensive scheme for that game or what is anyone's guess but they didn't look right to me?  Just a note:  Benedictines defense didn't fair much better!  These are powerful offenses that these teams are trying to slow down! 

I'm not here to make claims that the CUC defense is tops in the league (because I know that is not true...that they have to prove even to me)!  I just felt and still feel that their defense is one that shouldnt be taken lightly!  There is no secret that when CUC wins it's because the defense played well or did what it needed to do!  The CUC offense just keeps rolling so in my opinion it's the defense that is going to win or lose games for them!  I agree 100% with what some of you said defense does win championships...and I guess that's why I have looked at their defense as a needed key to their success!  I do think that they are better than many people give them credit for!  I never said they were a great unit but I do think they have some good players and shouldnt be taken lightly!  Just my opinion!  I enjoy the debate!  Don't beat me up too much over this...LOL!

This is a fun year in the conference!
Title: BU vs. AU
Post by: Boss on October 10, 2010, 12:26:58 AM
I would have loved to watch this game!  It sounds like it was a good one!  I thought that AU would maybe win this one but as somebody said turnovers just won't get it done!  Congrats to BU in beating a tough team today!

Lots of league games left...looking for some more excitement from these teams!  Still some good match ups left in this already fun year!   :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 11, 2010, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on October 09, 2010, 09:03:21 PM
I've heard that a Rockford College football player needed to be airlifted from the game at Lakeland.  Sounds like he may have collapsed postgame.  Anyone witness or have any information on the incident?

Found a newspaper story yesterday in my news wanderings and added it to What We're Reading.

http://www.sheboyganpress.com/article/20101010/SHE0101/10100405/Rockford-player-airlifted-after-Lakeland-football-game
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 11, 2010, 12:54:03 PM
Great game between AU and BU this weekend it definitely could have gone either way. AU's defense is pretty solid and BU had to earn every yard. Offensively for BU was not their best game yardage or point wise, but it's understandable seeing AU has the best D in the conference. BU also had a few dropped balls that couldve tilted the score board even more so in their favor but were unable to convert on those plays. Borsellino had a big game rushing (150 yards and 3 scores) n Austin had a good game receiving as he caught I think 2 or 3 3rd down conversions as BU was draining the clock on AU. Defensivey BU still has to force more three n outs n just has to play better each week. The D did take a few steps foward this week by forcing 4 turnovers! But as I said before they need to b more consistent and force more three n outs, they are still giving up to much yardage and teams are sustaining long time consuming drives! After the loss to NPU an AU fan had said BUs roster is loaded with turds, I think you are finding out that that is far from the case n it's funny how words can come back to bite ya hahaha... I give the AU players credit they played hard until the end.

As for this coming week BU plays CUW I kno nothing about them this yr except that they beat Rockford and Maranatha... I never count out CUW as they are a contender for the championship every year. BU is going to have to play fundamental, mistake free football to win this weekend n I see this game being a good game. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 11, 2010, 12:57:18 PM
My prayers go out to the Rockford player, family, and team. You hate to hear things like this n I hope he has a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 11, 2010, 01:50:14 PM
d3fan1515

Looks like CUW struggled  in their 3 rd game against Carthage as they gave up big yards versus the pass. CUW is always in most games and I see their D has shut out RC and MBBC. I would suspect their D is like the AU D, maybe not as good in the secondary as AU IMHO.  BU should win be 2 touch's as CUW struggles on O.

BU played well against AU. I was impressed with your passing. Having that back really put pressure on the AU team. It's hard to shut both down. Maybe the best game of the year to watch for a fan.  BU and AU could run the table and tie. (BU would win the tie breaker).  CUC and WLC will also have a shot.

Good Luck
Title: Rockford Player
Post by: Boss on October 12, 2010, 01:57:34 AM
I just wanted to wish my best to that Rockford player!  I hope it is nothing serious!  My prayers are with him and his family!   :(
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: wlcalum on October 12, 2010, 09:01:07 AM
http://www.sheboyganpress.com/article/201010120402/SHE0201/10120397?odyssey=mod_related_topix Good news!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 12, 2010, 12:48:23 PM
Week 7 Picks
BU over CUW in a close game
WLC over LC in a tight game
CUC rolls RC
AU gets past MBBC:  If AU comes ready and is not distracted by the weird environment at Maranatha, then AU rolls, but it could be much closer then most would think (at least for the first half)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: BU--QB--5 on October 12, 2010, 10:43:23 PM
Quote from: old 40 on October 11, 2010, 01:50:14 PM
d3fan1515

Looks like CUW struggled  in their 3 rd game against Carthage as they gave up big yards versus the pass. CUW is always in most games and I see their D has shut out RC and MBBC. I would suspect their D is like the AU D, maybe not as good in the secondary as AU IMHO.  BU should win be 2 touch's as CUW struggles on O.

BU played well against AU. I was impressed with your passing. Having that back really put pressure on the AU team. It's hard to shut both down. Maybe the best game of the year to watch for a fan.  BU and AU could run the table and tie. (BU would win the tie breaker).  CUC and WLC will also have a shot.

Good Luck



If BU runs the table, there won't be a tie...they would be 7-0....
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 13, 2010, 11:51:07 AM
WAUKESHA, Wis. – The weekly Northern Athletics Conference Player of the Week awards have been announced and two of the Benedictine University football players have been selected. Senior Mike Hatfield received Defensive Player of the Week honors and sophomore John Borsellino was honored with the Offensive Player of the Week award.

Hatfield had an impressive game in the Eagles 28-21 win over rival Aurora University on Saturday afternoon. The Madison Heights, Mich. native had seven solo tackles and 12 assists to combine for 19 total tackles. The senior safety also had two forced fumbles, one which came late in the game to help secure the Eagles victory.

Borsellino scored three of the Eagles four touchdowns in the game with 30 carries and 153 yards. The Oak Brook, Ill. native leads Benedictine in rushing with 112 attempts and 482 yards for an average of 90.6 yards per game.

The Eagles win over Aurora marks the first time since 1988 that BenU has defeated the Spartans on the road. The win also keeps the Eagles undefeated in NAC play. Benedictine returns to action this weekend when they host Concordia University-Wisconsin at 1:00 p.m. at the Sports Complex.

Congrats to these players!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on October 13, 2010, 12:36:39 PM
This weeks picks:

AU over MBB--For some reason, I feel a statement game coming on here.

CUC over RC-- see above!!!!

WLC over LC-- This one is going to be real close. I would have taken LC if they were playing in Sheboygan

BU over CUW--- I would love to pick CUW here but I just can't bring myself to do it. BU showed alot last week at AU and they are better then most thought they were.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 13, 2010, 02:28:06 PM
AU vs. MBB- AU

CUC vs. RC- CUC

Runner Up:
BU vs. CUW- The only two undefeated teams in the NAC, this is going to be a close game.  I mentioned before that I don't know much about CUW this year but they are always tough.  BU can not get caught sleeping this week after their two BIG opening wins in the NAC, a win here puts them one week closer to a conference championship.

Game of the Week:
WLC  vs. LC- WLC, a close game but I think WLC has what it takes this yr to shut down lakeland.  I know lakeland has a pretty good wideout so if they can shut him down, I like their chances. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 13, 2010, 10:30:36 PM
My guesses for this week;

AU@MBBC- AU bounces back after the lost and wins big. 28-0.

CUC@RC- RC plays hard for their injured player but falls to CUC 54-12.

LC@WLC- WLC bounces back with authority and handles LC. Big running game by their big 2 big backs, 200+ yards and some pinpoint passing by their QB racks up big yards and a 31-14 Win for WLC.

CUW@BU- Could be a tough game for BU. CUW is out to prove they are better than their record says. They still have a real tough D and their O is improving. Their tough non-conference schedule should begin to pay off. The Big question is, can BU be up again this week and play a another great offensive game. BU wins in OT18-12.
Title: Picks Of The Week!
Post by: Boss on October 13, 2010, 11:08:30 PM
I don't see too many surprises this week boys!  Here's how I see the week unfolding:

AU over MBBC  (AU is probably steaming after their close loss last week & I see them taking that anger out on MBBC!  I think AU bounces back in which will be their best played game to this point)  AU 42 - MBBC 7

BU over CUW  (I don't know if CUW has enough to take BU out?  I do see BU playing down a bit this week after their tough game last week but in the end they have too much offense!  As long as BU stays focused they should win this one but not by a large margin!)                     BU 28 - CUW 14

CUC over RC  (There is only one way to go in this one & I think CUC can name the score!)  CUC 35 - RC 7

GAME OR THE WEEK:

WLC over LC  (I see this game being close with WLC winning the game in the 4th Qtr with some good defense & a seperation TD in the 4th to hold LC off)  WLC 24 - LC 10

Note:  Right around weeks 4, 5 & 6 teams start to get a little tired & beat up as the season starts to wear on the players bodies!  This is when things become a bit of a challenge for coaches & players alike!  I think we will see some teams this week that will be a little flat & a few that will be catching their 2nd wind for the stretch run!

Good luck to all the teams & everyone be safe!   :)

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 14, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
Where is Rusty Shackleford????
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 14, 2010, 11:47:46 AM
At this point already there are some teams scoreboard watching (CUC & AU) and hoping someone can take down BU. If BU wins Saturday vs. CUW, there are only a few  more "opportunities" for BU losses, and frankly CUC and AU need BU to lose twice (or hope for the goofy three-way tiebreakers to take effect.)

By the way, in regard to my thoughts from a couple weeks ago about comparative strength of the NAC and the MIAA, I am more intrigued than I was two weeks ago. Trine is head and shoulders (and probably knees and toes) above anyone in the NAC, and I also think Adrian is a pretty quality team as well. But now Hope is playing well and gunning (in my opinion) for 2nd place in the MIAA, and that's after two losses from midlevel (again, IMHO) NAC teams.
     
On the other hand, Bennie, who looks to be the class of the NAC, lost to K-zoo, who lost to Hope . . . (not to mention North Park, who appears much improved but still looking up at the rest of the CCIW.)

On the lower end of the conference standings, Rockford hung around with Alma for three quarters, and I wouldn't mind seeing Maranatha or Rockford taking on Olivet.

So the lesson is . . . what lesson? There's lots of football left to be played, and the cream will eventually rise to the top. (I've got an addendum to that little saying which I think might fit here, but I don't want to get a post deleted!)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 14, 2010, 02:18:15 PM
This is a very interesting website...supposedly this is a very good ranking system that is getting lots of attention...there are some very interesting rankings in there (Mt. Union ranked #62)....there are 3 teams from the NAC in the bottom 8


http://www.sportsmetrix.net/NCAA_DivIII_Football_Ranking.html (http://www.sportsmetrix.net/NCAA_DivIII_Football_Ranking.html)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 15, 2010, 06:33:24 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses for this week:

Aurora

Benedictine

Concordia-Chicago

WLC  -- A) the Warriors are at home and B) they want to improve on last season's near miss against the Muskes
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Just Bill on October 15, 2010, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: dizzle52 on October 14, 2010, 02:18:15 PM
This is a very interesting website...supposedly this is a very good ranking system that is getting lots of attention...there are some very interesting rankings in there (Mt. Union ranked #62)....there are 3 teams from the NAC in the bottom 8


http://www.sportsmetrix.net/NCAA_DivIII_Football_Ranking.html (http://www.sportsmetrix.net/NCAA_DivIII_Football_Ranking.html)

If Mount Union is #62 it is not a good ranking system. Anyone on Earth believe there are 61 teams in D-III better than Mount Union?  Thought not. There's not even 6 teams better than Mount Union.  Thank god we have a playoff so we don't have to let computers pick our champion.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2010, 10:09:24 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on October 15, 2010, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: dizzle52 on October 14, 2010, 02:18:15 PM
This is a very interesting website...supposedly this is a very good ranking system that is getting lots of attention...there are some very interesting rankings in there (Mt. Union ranked #62)....there are 3 teams from the NAC in the bottom 8


http://www.sportsmetrix.net/NCAA_DivIII_Football_Ranking.html (http://www.sportsmetrix.net/NCAA_DivIII_Football_Ranking.html)

If Mount Union is #62 it is not a good ranking system. Anyone on Earth believe there are 61 teams in D-III better than Mount Union?  Thought not. There's not even 6 teams better than Mount Union.  Thank god we have a playoff so we don't have to let computers pick our champion.

I agree with Just Bill on this!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 17, 2010, 06:47:55 AM
Hey, hey! Warriors finally get off the schneid against Lakeland!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on October 18, 2010, 09:51:22 AM
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Title: (Prediction) Picks for 10/23/10
Post by: Boss on October 19, 2010, 03:33:23 AM
Game of the Week:
CUW - AU  (AU gonna be just too much here folks...it will probably look a lot like last weeks CUW/BU game!)
                                      AU 35 - CUW 10   

LC - CUC      (CUC at home...offensively will be running a track meet!)
                               CUC 35 - LC 7

MBBC - BU     (MBBC quick duck!)
                                BU 42- MBBC 0

RC - WLC     (RC...No way...No how...No where to hide!)
                               WLC 35 - RC 0                   

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 20, 2010, 11:51:22 AM
Some thoughts on BU vs. CUW, BU's D had it's best game of the year if they would have played like that against NPU and KZOO they would be unbeaten right now! The D now needs to take this momentum into the remaining weeks. Offensively BU played well again, CUW stacked the box having 8-9 in the box on each play so the passing game was very effective. This week BU plays MBBC, MBBC always play tough and I don't expect anything different this week. BU can't over look anyone remaining on their schedule or they will not like the outcome. A win against MBBC brings BU one game closer to a conference championship!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 20, 2010, 11:56:11 AM
Football - Defensive
Kaylan Gaines, Wisconsin Lutheran College   
...5-11, 216...Senior...Defensive End...Lake Worth, Fla. (American Heritage)...
Gaines recorded six tackles, three of which were sacks, on Saturday in the Warriors' 20-9 win over Lakeland.

Other nominees: Al Sarno (Benedictine), Josiah Brendemuehl (Maranatha)

Football - Offensive
Jamal Thomas, Concordia University Chicago
...5-10, 180...Sophomore...Wide Receiver...Weirsdale, Fla. (Lake Weir)...
Thomas had touchdown receptions of 60 and 47 yards in the Cougars' 44-0 victory over Rockford. He had 147 yards on five receptions for a 29.4 yards per catch average.

Other nominees: David Gray (Aurora), Preston Earl (Benedictine)

Football - Special Teams
Pedro Hardy, Wisconsin Lutheran College
...5-10, 150...Sophomore...Kick Returner/Punt Returner...Milwaukee, Wis. (South)...
After fumbling a punt which led to a Muskies field goal trimming WLC's lead to 13-9, Hardy redeemed himself by returning the ensuing fourth-quarter kickoff a school-record 100 yards for a touchdown to seal a 20-9 win for the Warriors Saturday at Raabe Stadium.

Other nominees: Anthony Beres (Rockford)

 
Congratulations to these players.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sflzman on October 21, 2010, 03:58:03 PM
D3 Top 25 Fan Poll Released

Team       
1. UW-Whitewater (16)   400
2. Mount Union                381
3. Wesley                        361
4. St. Thomas                  346
5. North Central               332
6. Mary Hardin-Baylor      328
7. Delaware Valley           262
8. Wittenberg                  261
9. Hardin-Simmons           252
10. Ohio Northern            240
11. Linfield                       218
12. Thomas More             216
13. Wartburg                   213
14. Wheaton                   187
15. Montclair St.              183
16. Trine                          171
17. St. John Fisher           164
18. Bethel                        136
19. Coe                            123
20. Central                       99
21. Pacific Lutheran          88
22. Hampden-Sydney       85
23. Cal Lutheran              46
24. Ursinas                       36
25. Case Western            17


Also Receiving Votes:
Wabash (15), Franklin (12), Rowan (12), Willamette (12), Illinois Wesleyan (6), Cortland State (6), Augustana (5), Depauw (4)

www.uwwfootball.blogspot.com (http://www.uwwfootball.blogspot.com)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 21, 2010, 08:26:21 PM
My Guesses this week;

CUW@AU- AU with a big statement on D and O. AU wins 44-3.

LC@CUC- Not much of a game as CUC pours it on LC 56-7.

MBBC@BU- BU with no trouble here, BU wins 38-0.

RC@WLC- WLC continues to roll and wins 46-0.

Good Luck to everyones team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 22, 2010, 05:26:01 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Aurora
Concordia-Chicago
Benedictine
WLC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: dizzle52 on October 14, 2010, 02:18:15 PM
This is a very interesting website...supposedly this is a very good ranking system that is getting lots of attention...there are some very interesting rankings in there (Mt. Union ranked #62)....there are 3 teams from the NAC in the bottom 8


http://www.sportsmetrix.net/NCAA_DivIII_Football_Ranking.html (http://www.sportsmetrix.net/NCAA_DivIII_Football_Ranking.html)

It seems like these guys have reconfigured the math. Mount Union is in a more reasonable place now. Not where a human voter would put the Purple Raiders, but based on what games have been played so far, it's in the ballpark.

http://www.sportsmetrix.net/NCAA_DivIII_Football_Ranking.html
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on October 23, 2010, 08:58:15 AM
This week guesses:

AU- Closer then you may think

BU- MBBC never quits but they just aren't good enough yet.

CUC- Rumor has it that the LC team is in total disarray.

WLC- Sorry RC ...Not this year either.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 23, 2010, 03:44:40 PM
With 10 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter, CUC leads Lakeland 28-7. Copeland has 235 yards rushing so far.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 23, 2010, 04:29:00 PM
Meanwhile, CUW scores a late TD to go up 14-13 at Aurora with about 2 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 23, 2010, 04:37:34 PM
Final: CUC over Lakeland 48-7. Copeland becomes the first Concordia rusher in history to gain over 300 yards in a game. (333 yds. on 28 carries - the last carry a 95 yarder.)

Aurora completes a clutch 4th & 12 pass and goes on to score a TD to take a 21-14 lead on CUW with 26 seconds to go. I wish I could get AU's video to work.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 23, 2010, 04:43:35 PM
CUW squeezes 4 plays into the last 23 seconds and gets down to the AU 35 before an final incompletion ends the game with a 21-14 Aurora victory.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: BU--QB--5 on October 23, 2010, 05:26:40 PM
Benedictine wins 49-14
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
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Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 25, 2010, 08:08:17 PM
The board has been a bit boring as of late, I don't have much from the BU game everyone played pretty well. This week is an interesting match up for BU, I think BU is the better team but I don't think there is anyone in the conference who likes going to Sheboygan to play Lakeland! This is the furthest road game for BU so far this yr and they need to embrace the challenge in front of them! If BU comes out firing I don't think they will have a problem, but if they let the road trip get to them and come out sluggish then  they will b in a dog fight! A win here is huge for this team and sets up a huge showdown with WLC in a couple weeks if WLC does what they are suppose to do for the rest of the year.  A win here brings BU one step closer to a conference championship! Good luck to all teams this week!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on October 26, 2010, 11:58:59 AM
Sorry, I didn't post after the last couple of AU games but been supper busy. AU and CUW was an exciting game to say the least. Both teams had untimely turnovers andthen had guys who stepped up big time when needed. It was a hard hitting, rough and tumble contest. AU seems to still be having some problems in all phases of the game even in week 7.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 26, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
I don't think there is any doubt that BU goes up to LC and rolls 'em...after a 2-5 (1-3 in conference) start and no chance of making the playoffs it seems Coach Doherty and the Muskies have packed it in for the season
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 26, 2010, 04:24:11 PM
Football - Defensive
David Sodetz, Concordia University Chicago
...6-0, 180...Junior...Safety...Chicago, Ill. (Kennedy)...
Sodetz, who recently moved to free safety, intercepted two Lakeland passes in Saturday's 48-7 win. He returned the first interception 33 yards for a touchdown that gave CUC a 14-0 first-quarter lead.

Other nominees: Adam Siwicki (Aurora), Caleb Rader (Maranatha), Kaylan Gaines (Wisconsin Lutheran)

Football - Offensive
Khyree Copeland, Concordia University Chicago
...5-10, 180...Senior...Running Back...Jacksonville, Fla. (Potter's House Academy)...
Copeland shattered his previous single-game rushing record of 221 yards with 333 yards on 28 carries in Saturday's win. He had touchdown runs of 39 and 95 yards, the latter coming on his final carry of the day. He became CUC's first-ever 1,000-yard rusher in a season--currently at 1,100 yards with three games remaining.

Other nominees: Evan Hackbarth (Aurora)

Football - Special Teams
Ryan Subick, Aurora University
...5-10, 140...Senior...Punter/Kicker...Mount Olive, Ill. (Mount Olive)...
Subick was instrumental in the field position battle for the Spartans, pinning Concordia Wisconsin four times inside the 20 yard line, one of which was inside the 10 and another that went out at the 3 yard line. The punt that he pinned at the 3 yard line, led to a turnover and eventual Aurora score.

Congrats to these players!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 26, 2010, 09:32:46 PM
BleedBlue

I agree with your comments about AU. I also thought that Saturday they would really roll CUW. I think the lack of a big run game hurts them Spenser IMHO is the only big consistent run threat they have. I would like to see him carry more. 

The D was inconsistent against CUW. My hat is off to CUW who really played well and had chances to win. AU was not as emotional as they were in earlier games. They need to win out and hope for a multiplr tie for all the goods.

Dizzle

You make a good point on LC. I was shocked when I heard that score. I saw thwm against AU and they did not look as good as in the past. IMHO WLC will be dangerous these last 3 weeks. AU has got to jell on all cylinders in these last 3 games.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 27, 2010, 01:50:33 PM
BU           4-0    5-2   
AU             3-1    5-2
CUC           3-1    5-2   
WLC           3-1    5-2   
CUW.         2-2    2-5   
LC             1-3    2-5   
MBBC        0-4    0-7   
RC            0-4    0-7   

4 teams in the hunt, this season is gonna go to the wire, anyone got predictions on how this season is gonna play out, who is gonna get the AQ??

This weeks games, any predictions?
*Aurora @ Rockford   

*Benedictine @ Lakeland   

*Wisconsin Lutheran @ Concordia Wisconsin   

*Concordia Chicago @ Maranatha
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: maidenslayer77 on October 27, 2010, 03:00:19 PM
Looks like we have the top half against the bottom half in this weeks matchups.

AU, BU, WLC and CUC all roll this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 27, 2010, 10:36:29 PM
Guesses for this week

AU@RC-Closer than I would like but AU wins 24-0

BU@LC- Bad D +Bad O =BU blast LC 52-0

Game of the week-WLC@CUW- Upset Central CUW eeks out victory 18-17.

CUC@MBBC- Can you say ouch! CUC wins 42-6
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 28, 2010, 08:30:56 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses for this week;

Aurora
Benedictine
Concordia-WI (mainly because the Falcons are at home)
Concordia-Chicago
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on October 28, 2010, 09:43:58 AM
This weeks Picks--3 of 4 games shouldn't even be close

AU--- RC is in trouble if they have to start a wr at qb. AU needs to win and stay healthy this week.

BU-- last week proved to me that what I heard about LC is true. This is going to be real ugly.

WLC-- I was leaning towards CUW but WLC is the ONLY team that controls it's own fate to catch BU because they play both AU and BU. They have to win out; if they do, they win conference.

CUC-- This is going to be real ugly as well
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: BU--QB--5 on October 28, 2010, 11:33:52 PM
AU over Rockford - 31-6

BU over Lakeland - 38-13

CUC  over MBBC - 42-14

WLC over CUW - 24-20
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on October 29, 2010, 12:01:54 PM
Picks for the Week

AU@RC - AU rolls a terrible RC team

BU@LC- No doubt that BU runs it up easily

WLC@CUW- WLC in a close one

CUC@MBBC- Maranatha doesn't stand a chance
Title: Picks for the week:
Post by: Boss on October 30, 2010, 09:39:40 AM
AU - RC    (Nothing to talk about here)     AU wins

BU - LC     (LC is punchless on offense, only one way to look here -                            and the beat goes on for BU)
                             BU wins

WLC - CUW     (Game of the week:  WLC just has
                                    been playing better...thats just the way I see it)
                                     WLC wins

CUC - MBBC     (Nothing to discuss - wipeout)  CUC wins
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 01, 2010, 09:51:16 AM
No reports on Saturday's games? I'd love to hear from WLCALUM83 or someone else regarding WLC's 1 point victory over CUW. It must have been heartstopping (as ws the previous CUW game with AU.)

This week brings a couple of very large games, as WLC continues it's murderer's row of final three contests - this time against Aurora - with the winner being still in contention for a share of the title. However, CUC and BU do have rooting interests in this game.

1) CUC needs WLC to win against AU in hopes that WLC can then beat BU in the finale and they themselves win out and throw the conference into a three-way tie for first with WLC, BU, and CUC. A WLC loss to AU followed by a WLC win over BU does CUC no good as far as the AQ becuase in a CUC/BU tie for first, BU would get the nod as they beat CUC head to head. ( I have no idea who gets the AQ in the three-way scenario, but I will check that out later.)

2) BU might like to see AU win because if AU wins out (beats WLC and then CUC in their finale) and WLC beats BU, then AU and BU will be tied for first, but BU beat AU head to head.

3) Aurora seems to have no shot at the AQ because if they win out and WLC manages to beat BU, they would be tied with BU and, well, see #2.

4) If WLC wins out and if Aurora beats CUC, they would be tied with BU and own the head to head tie-breaker and get the AQ.

Meanwhile, CUC needs to beat CUW -  no easy task -  to stay in the hunt. And of course Benedictine makes it all academic if they win out and go undefeated in the conference.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 02, 2010, 07:28:15 AM
RF, just read the Warriors' release on the game, and you're right.

I'm wondering what kind of motivational carrots Coach Miller will dangle in front of the squad, one thing's for sure, you know they figure to be up for Benedictine (having lost leads against that squad in the previous 2 meetings).

Also, how long will the Warrior D hold up?  :-X :-X :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lil sparty on November 03, 2010, 07:48:17 PM
Just received an e-mail from the AU SID that the game time of AU/WLC has been moved to 1:00 as AU is hosting Conference Championship women's soccer game @ 9:30 am.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 04, 2010, 05:18:16 AM
Quote from: lil sparty on November 03, 2010, 07:48:17 PM
Just received an e-mail from the AU SID that the game time of AU/WLC has been moved to 1:00 as AU is hosting Conference Championship women's soccer game @ 9:30 am.

WLC's site also makes note of the time change.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on November 04, 2010, 12:35:50 PM
This weeks games:

CUC @ CUW--- This game is going to be close but I'll go CUC

LC @ MBBC--- This one is going to be interesting. LC has obviously given up on the season. They will win but it's going to be closer then it should be.

RC @ BU--- RC is not good rnough to win here but they do score again this week. Let's hope it isn't bad call that they score on like last week.

This weeks game of the week....

WLC @ AU---- This is a game that matters so much to WLC. AU has no chance to win conference unless RC pulls off a MOMUMENTAL upset. AU has to score in the redzone to win. They will...AU in another close game.
Title: Picks of the week:
Post by: Boss on November 04, 2010, 06:24:18 PM
Game of the week:
WLC - AU      (There is a lot of hype around this game with what it means to the standings in the NAC! WLC has a great opportunity this week and next! Are they up to the challenge? I think it's a tall order! I don't see them winning both games...although I would like to be wrong! As far as this game goes I see a good close game with a lot depending on AU's ability to hold onto the ball.  If they turn it over like they did against BU then they will lose but I don't think that is going to happen and they win a tough game!)                                  AU 21 - WLC 14

LC - MBBC     (LC better be careful here! MBBC I think gives them trouble as there has been much talk of LC and their ability to stay focused this year!  I've seen LC play this year and I couldn't agree more about their focus! So a lot depends on their motivation to finish the season strong! Since I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to win every game they play I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say they win this game!)
                                              LC 21 - MBBC 7

RC - BU          (I'm not trying to being harsh when I say RC has a lot of problems to fix before they will ever be competitive with a team like BU and it could not be any worse than QB troubles! If in fact they have to start a WR at QB they probably don't score in this game! I hope that's not the case for all involved because it's not going to be a fun game for BU to play either!)                                   BU 42 - RC 0

CUC - CUW               (There's a new big brother in this rivalry game and that would be CUC! For years I know CUW did not think much of this game as a rivalry but times have changed! CUW has no choice but to view them differently now or they better! CUW better dig in because here comes a CUC offense and it's nothing like any offense they have seen in the past from these guy's (better than last years...even more weapons in my opinion)! I know CUW will be fired up but that will only do so much for them as the trackmeet starts at 12:00pm...bad week for homecoming!                CUC 35 - CUW 14
                                       
Title: NAC
Post by: Boss on November 04, 2010, 06:27:00 PM
Good luck to all the teams this week!  :)

Be safe!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 04, 2010, 06:56:46 PM
My Guesses for this week;

CUC@CUW- It appears that CUW has a decent D and did move the ball against AU. If they cannot move the ball it will be over quickly. Plus CUW is at home and they play well there. CUC loads the air with balls. CUC wins 47-13.

LC@MBBC- Should not be a game but LC has not appeared to improve since I saw them against the Spartans. MBBC shocks the world and gets their first NATHCON win. MBBC wins12-10.

RC@BU- BU cruises with an easy 31-14 win.

WLC@AU- AU has trouble running the ball at times. They need to do that Saturday. Two very good defenses battle it out and turn overs and special teams are the difference. AU wins 17-7.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 04, 2010, 07:30:21 PM

 
Awards Archives

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2010 Football Weekly Awards

October 25-31

Football - Defensive
Matt McWilliams, Benedictine University
...5-11, 185...Junior...Defensive Tackle...Belleville, Mich. (Divine Child)...
McWilliams had two interceptions in the Eagles' 46-21 victory at Lakeland on Saturday. He returned one of the picks 25 yards for a touchdown late in the fourth quarter.

Other nominees: Jimmy Fierro (Aurora), Curtis Underwood (Concordia Chicago), Josiah Brendemuehl (Maranatha), Jason Kramer (Wisconsin Lutheran)

Football - Offensive
Logan Beer, Maranatha Baptist Bible College
...6-0, 175...Sophomore...Wide Receiver...Atlanta, Ga. (Shiloh Hills Christian)...
Beer scored all three of the Crusaders' touchdowns on Saturday versus Concordia Chicago. He snagged 13 catches for 185 yards in the loss.

Other nominees: Jimmy Bevell (Aurora), Preston Earl (Benedictine), Khyree Copeland (Concordia Chicago)

Football - Special Teams
Billy Dixon, Benedictine University
...6-3, 165...Freshman...Punter/Kicker...Peoria, Ill. (Notre Dame)...
Dixon had five punts for 164 yards in BU's victory over Lakeland, including one pinned inside the 20-yard line.

Other nominees: none

 

October 18-24

Football - Defensive
David Sodetz, Concordia University Chicago
...6-0, 180...Junior...Safety...Chicago, Ill. (Kennedy)...
Sodetz, who recently moved to free safety, intercepted two Lakeland passes in Saturday's 48-7 win. He returned the first interception 33 yards for a touchdown that gave CUC a 14-0 first-quarter lead.

Other nominees: Adam Siwicki (Aurora), Caleb Rader (Maranatha), Kaylan Gaines (Wisconsin Lutheran)

Football - Offensive
Khyree Copeland, Concordia University Chicago
...5-10, 180...Senior...Running Back...Jacksonville, Fla. (Potter's House Academy)...
Copeland shattered his previous single-game rushing record of 221 yards with 333 yards on 28 carries in Saturday's win. He had touchdown runs of 39 and 95 yards, the latter coming on his final carry of the day. He became CUC's first-ever 1,000-yard rusher in a season--currently at 1,100 yards with three games remaining.

Other nominees: Evan Hackbarth (Aurora)

Football - Special Teams
Ryan Subick, Aurora University
...5-10, 140...Senior...Punter/Kicker...Mount Olive, Ill. (Mount Olive)...
Subick was instrumental in the field position battle for the Spartans, pinning Concordia Wisconsin four times inside the 20 yard line, one of which was inside the 10 and another that went out at the 3 yard line. The punt that he pinned at the 3 yard line, led to a turnover and eventual Aurora score.

Other nominees: none

 

October 11-17

Football - Defensive
Kaylan Gaines, Wisconsin Lutheran College   
...5-11, 216...Senior...Defensive End...Lake Worth, Fla. (American Heritage)...
Gaines recorded six tackles, three of which were sacks, on Saturday in the Warriors' 20-9 win over Lakeland.

Other nominees: Al Sarno (Benedictine), Josiah Brendemuehl (Maranatha)

Football - Offensive
Jamal Thomas, Concordia University Chicago
...5-10, 180...Sophomore...Wide Receiver...Weirsdale, Fla. (Lake Weir)...
Thomas had touchdown receptions of 60 and 47 yards in the Cougars' 44-0 victory over Rockford. He had 147 yards on five receptions for a 29.4 yards per catch average.

Other nominees: David Gray (Aurora), Preston Earl (Benedictine)

Football - Special Teams
Pedro Hardy, Wisconsin Lutheran College
...5-10, 150...Sophomore...Kick Returner/Punt Returner...Milwaukee, Wis. (South)...
After fumbling a punt which led to a Muskies field goal trimming WLC's lead to 13-9, Hardy redeemed himself by returning the ensuing fourth-quarter kickoff a school-record 100 yards for a touchdown to seal a 20-9 win for the Warriors Saturday at Raabe Stadium.

Other nominees: Anthony Beres (Rockford)

 

October 4-10

Football - Defensive
Mike Hatfield, Benedictine University
...6-3, 170...Junior...Safety...Madison Heights, Mich. (Bishop Foley)...
Hatfield helped the Eagles remain undefeated in NAC play as he forced a fumble late in the game to keep the Eagles lead alive over Aurora. He had 19 tackles and two forced fumbles in the 28-21 victory.

Other nominees: Matt Rolf (Concordia Chicago), Tony Faller (Lakeland), Josiah Brendemuehl (Maranatha), Shaun Stannard (Wisconsin Lutheran)

Football - Offensive
John Borsellino, Benedictine University
...5-8, 180...Sophomore...Running Back...Oak Brook, Ill. (Montini Catholic)...
Borsellino scored three of the four Eagle touchdowns in the 28-21 win over Aurora. He had a game-high 142 yards rushing for a 4.7 yards per carry average.

Other nominees: Mike Marotta (Concordia Chicago), Roberto Flores (Lakeland)

Football - Special Teams
Jake Koehler, Concordia University Chicago
...6-3, 225...Sophomore...Punter...Belvidere, Ill. (Rockford Lutheran)...
The sophomore punter had best the punting day of his season with 40.5 average on four punts, only one of which was returned. The average starting position for WLC's offense on Koehler's four punts was the WLC 31.5-yard line.

Other nominees: Justin Laack (Lakeland)

 

September 27-October 3

Football - Defensive
Mike Langhurst, Aurora University
...6-2, 185...Senior...Cornerback...Merrillville, Ind. (Merrillville)...
Langhurst had three interceptions--one shy of the AU record--in Aurora's 23-7 NAC win over Lakeland. He had seven tackles and four pass break-ups to go along with his three picks.

Other nominees: Jason Bruggink (Lakeland), Ethan Lane (Maranatha), Nate Rosenberg (Wisconsin Lutheran)

Football - Offensive
Jamal Thomas, Concordia University Chicago
...5-10, 180...Sophomore...Wide Receiver...Weirsdale, Fla. (Lake Weir)...
Thomas's 231 receiving yards set a new CUC single-game record, topping the 211 yards that former Chicago Bear Todd Black set in 1984. His touchdown was a 26-yard play, most of the yardage coming after the catch.

Other nominees: Jacob Herres (Maranatha), Zach Shaw (Wisconsin Lutheran)

Football - Special Teams
Shem Biebert, Wisconsin Lutheran College
...6-1, 221...Senior...Punter...Inver Grove Heights, Minn. (St. Croix Lutheran)...
Biebert placed three of his six punts inside Maranatha's 20-yard line Saturday in WLC's 40-7 NAC-opening win over the Crusaders. He averaged 37.7 yards per punt, which included a long of 58 yards.

Other nominees: Matt Gillette (Aurora)

 

September 20-26

Football - Defensive
Tony Faller, Lakeland College
...6-3, 195...Junior...Safety...Oostburg, Wis. (Oostburg)...
Faller led the Muskies with six tackles, including one and a half for a loss in Lakeland's 27-12 victory over Hope College. He had an interception which was returned for a touchdown in the fourth quarter, sealing the Muskie victory and ending a 16-game nonconference losing streak.

Other nominees: none

Football - Offensive
Roberto Flores, Lakeland College
...6-1, 210...Senior...Wide Receiver...Milwaukee, Wis. (Thomas More)...
Flores was the Muskies' leading receiver with 167 receiving yards, including a 36-yard snag--his longest of the season.

Other nominees: none

Football - Special Teams
Nic Horstmeier, Lakeland College
...6-2, 190...Senior...Kicker/Punter...Mount Olive, Ill. (Mount Olive)...
Horstmeier was outstanding in Lakeland's win over Hope, helping the Muskies win the special teams battle. Horstmeier pinned four punts inside the 20 and added three extra points as kicker.

Other nominees: none

 

September 13-19

Football - Defensive
Josh McCormick, Wisconsin Lutheran College
...6-3, 227...Senior...Linebacker...Fond du Lac, Wis. (Winnebago Lutheran)...
McCormick led WLC to its first 2-1 start since 2002 after he recorded a team-high 11 tackles, including one for a loss, and intercepted two passes in the Warriors' 50-21 nonconference win over Minnesota-Morris Saturday at Raabe Stadium. He returned both interceptions for a total of 40 yards.

Other nominees: Cory Young (Aurora), Marty Beckman (Concordia Chicago), Ethan Rosen (Maranatha)

Football - Offensive
Mike Egebrecht, Concordia University Chicago
...5-8, 180...Senior...Wide Receiver...Wheeling, Ill. (Buffalo Grove)...
Egebrecht tied a single-game school record with 14 catches in CUC's win over St. Scholastica for 162 total yards. He started the scoring with a six-yard touchdown reception and later scored on a 31-yard catch.

Other nominees: Evan Hackbarth (Aurora), Zach Shaw (Wisconsin Lutheran)

Football - Special Teams
Ryan Subick, Aurora University
...5-10, 140...Senior...Kicker...Mount Olive, Ill. (Mount Olive)...
Subick was perfect on the day going 2-for-2 in field goals in a seven-point loss to No. 24 Illinois Wesleyan on Saturday.

Other nominees: none

 

September 6-12

Football - Defensive
Alex Allister, Wisconsin Lutheran College
...6-1, 198...Senior...Safety...Like Mills, Wis. (Lakeside Lutheran)...
Allister accumulated a team-high eight tackles, all solo, and broke-up two passes on Saturday in the Warriors' 17-14 win over Hope College at Raabe Stadium in Milwaukee.

Other nominees: Jerome Christmas (Aurora), Ethan Lane (Maranatha)

Football - Offensive
Jesse Muldrow, Wisconsin Lutheran College
...5-8, 164...Junior...Running Back...Milwaukee, Wis. (Wisconsin Lutheran)...
Muldrow rushed for 113 yards on 15 carries, including the go-ahead 49-yard touchdown run with 2:41 left in the fourth quarter, to lift the Warriors to their first win over Hope College, 17-14. Muldrow, who averaged 7.5 yards per carry, has rushed for over 100 yards for two consecutive games this season.

Other nominees: Jimmy Bevell (Aurora), Josiah Brendemuehl (Maranatha)

Football - Special Teams
no nominations

 

August 30-September 5

Football - Defensive
Josiah Brendemuehl, Maranatha Baptist Bible College
...5-10, 170...Freshman...Safety...Mishicot, Wis. Mishicot)...
Brendemuehl had two interceptions and returned one for 100 yards to score the Crusaders' first touchdown of the season in a loss to Martin Luther. He also recorded six tackles, including one for a loss, in the season-opener.

Other nominees: Jerome Christmas (Aurora), Tim Shanahan (Benedictine), Jason Kramer (Wisconsin Lutheran)

Football - Offensive
Mike Marotta, Concordia University Chicago
...6-0, 190...Senior...Quarterback...Brookfield, Ill. (Riverside-Brookfield)...
Marotta helped Cougars rack up 514 yards of offense in 52-23 rout of Lake Forest on Saturday. He threw for five touchdowns--the third time he has accomplished that feat during his career--and 316 yards on 24-of-42 passing on the day.

Other nominees: Jimmy Bevell (Aurora), Mike Trombetta (Benedictine), Logan Beer (Maranatha), Jesse Muldrow (Wisconsin Lutheran)

Football - Special Teams
Shem Biebert, Wisconsin Lutheran College
...6-1, 221...Senior...Punter...Inver Grove Heights, Minn. (St. Croix Lutheran)...
Biebert averaged 41.3 yards on six punts in the Warriors 20-10 season-opening loss at Ripon on Saturday.

Other nominees: none

Congrats to these players!

 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 05, 2010, 05:12:42 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses for 11/6:

CUW/CUC;  Going with the Cougars- too many weapons on O.
MBBC/Lakeland:  Lakeland
Rockford/Benedictine:  IL Eagles
WLC/Aurora:  Going with the Spartans here--they're at home.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 06, 2010, 09:17:47 PM
First off -  Congratulations for BU for wrapping up the conference AQ. I really hope you represent the conference well in the upcoming playoffs!

I think we may need to send a cardiac defribrilator (sp?) as an early Christmas present to our friend WLCALUM83 after yet another WLC heartstopper, this time a last second loss to Aurora. Checking the play-by-play, WLC coughed up two turnovers in the last five minutes, the second of which led to a last second AU field goal. Ouch.
(You can send a new remote after I pitched mine out the window another dreadful Michigan defensive performance even though they were bailed out in a Madden-style offensive game with UI.)   

Bennie sews up the automatic bid and will seek to win it outright with a win over WLC next week. You just have to wonder what today's loss will do to WLC's psyche. They are playing at home for a Senior Day finale, but today they lose a gut-wrencher and a chance to tie for the conference title in the process. Plus I figure there's no way that BU has a letdown as they are playing for sole possession of the title and want some momentum going into the playoffs. (I see purple in your future.)

Meanwhile, CUC drills CUW and takes on AU for either second place or a tie for first next week in River Forest.  No matter what the outcome, as a long-suffering CUC supporter, I am really proud of what Coach Pries has done with this program. (As they say, enjoy it while you can because you never know what's around the corner.) CUC is loaded with seniors this year so I'm not expecting quite the same results next year necessarily, but Pries has set the bar pretty high for himself and the program, and that's pretty cool. (And here's some free advice for Coach Pries. If you see on your caller ID a phone call from someplace like, say, Valparaiso, Indiana, just ignore it. It's probably just a salesman trying to sell you something ;)

To all the seniors in the conference who are playing their final games next week, cherish the moment and God's richest blessings.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 07, 2010, 04:50:11 PM
Congrats to BU for the NATHCON Bid. A win against a good WLC wraps up sole possession of 1st place. It will be interesting where they go. My guess would be down the street to NCC.

AU looked good this past week. The D was able to make big stops when they had to and cause turnovers. A win next week can lock a tie for first if BU stumbles. Next week will be a big lift for them for 2011 season. IMHO the shift in power among some teams have changed. BU, CUC, WLC and AU to the top tier. CUW and LC have slipped to the lower tier of the conference. IMHO the 4 lower tier teams have alot of work to do to move upward.

If AU keeps their QB, look out next year. They have alot of good young players coming up. Good luck to everyones team next week. It's had to beleive the regular season will be over. It's be a fun year.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: maidenslayer77 on November 08, 2010, 04:21:16 PM
I give BIG props to Defensive Cooridnator Luke Cutkomp and the Aurora defense. Putting players in the right spot, creating turnovers and giving the short field to the offense for points off turnovers. AU will roll this week in River Forest.

AU BLACK 'N BLUE!
Title: NAC Playoff Talk (Dreaming)
Post by: Boss on November 08, 2010, 04:48:59 PM
Congrats to BU as the conference playoff representative! They did it on the field & it's well deserved! I have to say after following the conference for a few years now I am a bit disappointed that there is only going to be one conference representative in the playoffs! I know that's how it works...I'm just dreaming :)! I understand that every conference could probably say the same thing! I just would like to see how the CUC / AU game winner this coming week would also fair in the playoffs along with BU! Again, I know that this is all just dream talk but I think it would be interesting to see! Obviously depending on matchups & given the right opponent I think any or all 3 teams could have a good playoff showing! Just thinking out loud! I wonder how many of you feel BU will fair and how you think one of the other two would do?   
Title: CUC - AU
Post by: Boss on November 08, 2010, 05:13:59 PM
To Maidenslayer77:

I couldn't agree with you more about the AU defense! I can't wait for the CUC - AU game this week! This is one of those must see games in my opinion! However, I do disagree with you on the outcome of the game! Right now I think CUC is playing their best ball of the year! I truely believe if they were to play BU again now they would beat them! They did not play well in that BU game & still almost won the game! As well as CUC is playing I think a rematch with BU would be much different! So no disrespect to AU who I think is a very good team I just think they are catching CUC at a bad time! We will see... 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 08, 2010, 05:30:40 PM
Boss, doesn't your keyboard have a period key?  EVERY sentence ending with an exclamation point looks like a bad comic strip. ::)

Due to seeding in the tourney, BU will already lose in the first round by 6+ TDs.  And you want MORE lambs to the slaughter?
Title: Football
Post by: Boss on November 08, 2010, 08:17:45 PM
To: Ypsi

If you want to discuss football I'd be more than happy to talk football with you, but if you want to act like an idiot, forget it. You can take that non-football talk somewhere else. We talk football on here, so if you want to be a teacher go be a teacher. I'm sorry that I don't type to your liking & that I'm not as smart as you. I know one thing for sure, you have no clue about football otherwise I'm sure you would have shared all your knowledge with us. I'm wondering why your on this section of the D3 site with so much hate for the NAC conference? I got news for you: your opinion is not needed or wanted on here. I guess I'm dumb as a stump so whatever, but I come on here to support the teams and players of this conference, you obviously don't. Please don't answer back because I'm not on here to go back and forth over your negativity.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 08, 2010, 09:07:21 PM
Boss,

I'm sorry you took my post so negatively.  I have no 'hatred' for the NathCon; just trying to introduce some realism after your fantasies.

BU lost by 11 to a CCIW team that has not won a conference game this millennium!  To think they will succeed in the post-season is simply delusional.

BU's first round game will be @NCC, @Mt. Union, or @Whitewater.  Wherever it is, they will be down by 5+ TDs by halftime.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 08, 2010, 09:43:40 PM
Boss, I'm glad that you are excited about Concordia (as am I). I think that CUC has played really well on offense all year, not just recently. From what Maydenslayer77 says, AU's D is playing their best now as well. Should be a great college football game in RF this weekend.  However we need to be realistic about the NathCon. I think that the conference is improving in quality somewhat with these factors speciifically in mind:
   
1) The roster sizes at most of the schools are starting to reach the numbers which are comparable with most other dIII programs. With numbers comes depth, and eventually quality will follow. The biggest benefit, however, of having larger numbers is that it allows upperclassmen to enjoy the bulk of playing time and not have to play freshman who are simply not ready to compete physically or mentally on a full time basis in college football. Case in point; is it a coincidence that CUC has not had a single freshman start for more than a game or two in the last two years (Matt Rolf started a few games last year, but I think that's about it.) and that they have had the best two year run in the program's history?

2) The coaches, I believe, are staying longer, which leads to more stability in recruitment, retention, and support. With time comes experience, and experience can't be substituted for. They also have time to solidify connections with high school coaches which helps recruiting.

3) There have been a few non-conference wins which, while they don't look as strong now as they did early in the season (sorry formerdIIIdb -  from my west Michigan youth, I still consider Hope to be a traditional MIAA football power although the last year or two has been rough), are a start toward respectablilty.

However, facts are facts:
1) The conference AQ and champ, Benedictine, was beaten by the last place (no offense GS) team, North Park, in the CCIW and one of the lower rung MIAA teams in Kalamazoo.

2) The only really strong non-conference teams that the NathCon played, Chicago, Bethel, and NCC, (am I missing somebody?) just waxed their NathCon foes. (Although somebody from the NathCon - Aurora? - played IWU pretty tough.)

3) Neither the NathCon nor its predesesor conferences have won any NCAA playoff games to my knowledge. Most of their losses have in fact been lopsided. (We could get into a SWAC or MEAC complaint here that they never get an NCAA first round win because they always play Duke or somesuch, but that's for a different time.)
Frankly, this is one reason why we need to hope that BU (as much as it may hurt to say it ::)wins a playoff game because that's how you don't wind up with a lousy seed and always have to play Whitewater or NCC or whoever happens to have a #1 or 2 seed. When they start winning playoff games the conference gets more respect and a pool C bid becomes a possibility.

4) I'll bet that most of the incoming freshman at CCIW schools were at least all-conference players with a bunch of all-staters as well. I don't think that the NathCon can say that yet. However with the improvement of programs, that will hopefully change in the future. Also, the NathCon as a whole doesn't have the facilities or the tradition as of yet to draw higher profile recruits. However, when a school such as Trine has turned around their program as to be contenders in their regional playoffs, there's no reason that NathCon schools can't do it in the future.

I don't think that Mr. Ypsi meant disrespect but was just being objective. By the way, I can't make it this Saturday (and it's KILLING me not to go), but if you go you'll just have to just yell for the both of us.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 08, 2010, 09:50:57 PM
By the way, Boss, I would like to see AU, CUC, and WLC play some of the 2nd - 4th place teams in some other conferences around the midwest. They may (or may not) do well against some other 2nd-4th place teams in some of the other conferences around (the Midwest and MIAA come to mind), but the only way they're going to guage their improvement and get better, in my opinion, is to play these types of schools.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 08, 2010, 10:05:47 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 08, 2010, 09:07:21 PM
Boss,

I'm sorry you took my post so negatively.  I have no 'hatred' for the NathCon; just trying to introduce some realism after your fantasies.

BU lost by 11 to a CCIW team that has not won a conference game this millennium!  To think they will succeed in the post-season is simply delusional.

BU's first round game will be @NCC, @Mt. Union, or @Whitewater.  Wherever it is, they will be down by 5+ TDs by halftime.

Mr. Ypsi mixing it up in the NathCon area!  Nice!   I'm sure he wasn't meaning any disrespect, especially since his team will be turning in their equipment this weekend as well!  ;) He is speaking the truth though, as BU will be the lowest seed in the North region and have the fun task of a trip to Whitewater, Alliance or Lovely Naperville for a 40+ point loss.  Sorry, boys, the truth hurts!     
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 08, 2010, 10:07:40 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on November 08, 2010, 09:43:40 PM
Boss, I'm glad that you are excited about Concordia (as am I). I think that CUC has played really well on offense all year, not just recently. From what Maydenslayer77 says, AU's D is playing their best now as well. Should be a great college football game in RF this weekend.  However we need to be realistic about the NathCon. I think that the conference is improving in quality somewhat with these factors speciifically in mind:
   
1) The roster sizes at most of the schools are starting to reach the numbers which are comparable with most other dIII programs. With numbers comes depth, and eventually quality will follow. The biggest benefit, however, of having larger numbers is that it allows upperclassmen to enjoy the bulk of playing time and not have to play freshman who are simply not ready to compete physically or mentally on a full time basis in college football. Case in point; is it a coincidence that CUC has not had a single freshman start for more than a game or two in the last two years (Matt Rolf started a few games last year, but I think that's about it.) and that they have had the best two year run in the program's history?

2) The coaches, I believe, are staying longer, which leads to more stability in recruitment, retention, and support. With time comes experience, and experience can't be substituted for. They also have time to solidify connections with high school coaches which helps recruiting.

3) There have been a few non-conference wins which, while they don't look as strong now as they did early in the season (sorry formerdIIIdb -  from my west Michigan youth, I still consider Hope to be a traditional MIAA football power although the last year or two has been rough), are a start toward respectablilty.

However, facts are facts:
1) The conference AQ and champ, Benedictine, was beaten by the last place (no offense GS) team, North Park, in the CCIW and one of the lower rung MIAA teams in Kalamazoo.

2) The only really strong non-conference teams that the NathCon played, Chicago, Bethel, and NCC, (am I missing somebody?) just waxed their NathCon foes. (Although somebody from the NathCon - Aurora? - played IWU pretty tough.)

3) Neither the NathCon nor its predesesor conferences have won any NCAA playoff games to my knowledge. Most of their losses have in fact been lopsided. (We could get into a SWAC or MEAC complaint here that they never get an NCAA first round win because they always play Duke or somesuch, but that's for a different time.)
Frankly, this is one reason why we need to hope that BU (as much as it may hurt to say it ::)wins a playoff game because that's how you don't wind up with a lousy seed and always have to play Whitewater or NCC or whoever happens to have a #1 or 2 seed. When they start winning playoff games the conference gets more respect and a pool C bid becomes a possibility.

4) I'll bet that most of the incoming freshman at CCIW schools were at least all-conference players with a bunch of all-staters as well. I don't think that the NathCon can say that yet. However with the improvement of programs, that will hopefully change in the future. Also, the NathCon as a whole doesn't have the facilities or the tradition as of yet to draw higher profile recruits. However, when a school such as Trine has turned around their program as to be contenders in their regional playoffs, there's no reason that NathCon schools can't do it in the future.

I don't think that Mr. Ypsi meant disrespect but was just being objective. By the way, I can't make it this Saturday (and it's KILLING me not to go), but if you go you'll just have to just yell for the both of us.

Good stuff, RFM!  +K.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 08, 2010, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on November 08, 2010, 10:05:47 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 08, 2010, 09:07:21 PM
Boss,

I'm sorry you took my post so negatively.  I have no 'hatred' for the NathCon; just trying to introduce some realism after your fantasies.

BU lost by 11 to a CCIW team that has not won a conference game this millennium!  To think they will succeed in the post-season is simply delusional.

BU's first round game will be @NCC, @Mt. Union, or @Whitewater.  Wherever it is, they will be down by 5+ TDs by halftime.

Mr. Ypsi mixing it up in the NathCon area!  Nice!   I'm sure he wasn't meaning any disrespect, especially since his team will be turning in their equipment this weekend as well!  ;) He is speaking the truth though, as BU will be the lowest seed in the North region and have the fun task of a trip to Whitewater, Alliance or Lovely Naperville for a 40+ point loss.  Sorry, boys, the truth hurts!     

Rubbing it in on the CCIW board wasn't enough for you?! ::)

NathCon, my 'other' conference is the MIAA (I've now lived more than half my life in Michigan).  Aside from Trine (they have become a BIG dog!), I think you have a shot at taking them down! ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 09, 2010, 01:57:24 PM
Great points by everyone (Boss, Maidenslayer. Rf you have a great insight on reality. I too have followed the Nathcon as two of my sons played in the conference as the IBFC and NATHCON.

Lets be real. Pat and the D3 guys who know the whole D3 climate far better than me and most of us. They have the NATHCON ranked as the 2nd lowest conference (see kickoff). I think Pat has said that respect comes from quality wins in non-conference and playoffs. We have not had any quality playoff wins and have no quality non conference wins. I see LC and AU played 2 CCIW teams close but no wins. Some of this years NATHCON wins in non conference are wins over sub 500 teams like Eureka, MacMurray and a few others.

Our Champion lost to North Park and AU stuggled to beat them. This tells me we are not ready to have more than 1 team in the playoffs. I do think the league is getting better and we have teams who will get to the point where we will have some wins against better teams from better conferences in the future.

In closing let me point out what has happened to the last 2 winners of the NATHCON. AU loses big to Monmouth and LC loses big to Whitewater. I don't see that trend changing this year. I think BU will go down the street to play NCC.

I wish BU good luck and will root for them to surprize the world with an upset. But I am a fan. I am glad to see others coming in to support the NATHCON talk. We are getting better as a league for many of the reasons that RF mentioned. Right now its great to have an AQ and lets support them.
Title: Re: Football
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2010, 02:17:35 PM
Quote from: Boss on November 08, 2010, 08:17:45 PM
If you want to discuss football I'd be more than happy to talk football with you, but if you want to act like an idiot, forget it. You can take that non-football talk somewhere else. We talk football on here, so if you want to be a teacher go be a teacher. I'm sorry that I don't type to your liking & that I'm not as smart as you. I know one thing for sure, you have no clue about football otherwise I'm sure you would have shared all your knowledge with us. I'm wondering why your on this section of the D3 site with so much hate for the NAC conference? I got news for you: your opinion is not needed or wanted on here. I guess I'm dumb as a stump so whatever, but I come on here to support the teams and players of this conference, you obviously don't. Please don't answer back because I'm not on here to go back and forth over your negativity.

Boss:

No. 1: Welcome to the board.
No. 2: Relax, it was a fair point. Posts are hard to read when they're all bunched up in one paragraph and all in exclamation points. So if you want your post to be read and understood, consider writing them with those things in mind.
Title: Re: Football
Post by: Just Bill on November 09, 2010, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: Boss on November 08, 2010, 08:17:45 PM
To: Ypsi

If you want to discuss football I'd be more than happy to talk football with you, but if you want to act like an idiot, forget it. You can take that non-football talk somewhere else. We talk football on here, so if you want to be a teacher go be a teacher. I'm sorry that I don't type to your liking & that I'm not as smart as you. I know one thing for sure, you have no clue about football otherwise I'm sure you would have shared all your knowledge with us. I'm wondering why your on this section of the D3 site with so much hate for the NAC conference? I got news for you: your opinion is not needed or wanted on here. I guess I'm dumb as a stump so whatever, but I come on here to support the teams and players of this conference, you obviously don't. Please don't answer back because I'm not on here to go back and forth over your negativity.

The irony here is that this post would have warranted far more exclamation points and has none, than his previous post which didn't require any and had them after every sentence.

And, thanks for your 18 posts, but you don't quite have the credentials to speak for what is wanted or needed by everyone else on this board.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 09, 2010, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on November 08, 2010, 09:43:40 PMHowever, facts are facts:
1) The conference AQ and champ, Benedictine, was beaten by the last place (no offense GS) team, North Park, in the CCIW and one of the lower rung MIAA teams in Kalamazoo.

No offense taken, RF. It is what it is. If you're a North Park supporter, you need to have a thick skin just to come onto the football section of d3boards.com and read people's posts. I suppose that the same is true if you're a NAthCon fan and you wander into another room besides the NAthCon room -- or even, as has been the case over the past 24 hours, here in the NAthCon room itself. Do not expect anyone to respect your teams or your league, because they have earned none outside of their own locker rooms. As a North Park alumnus, I've learned to let it all roll off my back.

I do find it interesting, though, that people who root for other CCIW teams are now making more hay out of NPU's win over Benedictine than are those of us who support NPU. ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on November 10, 2010, 02:13:47 PM
I would have to agree with just about everybody....it is sad to say but the NAC just can not compete with the top teams in the big conferences....right now....and I would bet my salary that BU gets rolled.....I would also say that things can change and I think they will....Teams and Conferences do not build themselves over night....it takes years and years....The powerhouse conferences that we have now have not always been powerhouses....it took time to build them up and any conference/team can do the same....look at CUC for example, they used to be the "easy win" for any team but with solid recruiting and a great job of keeping good players in the program they have built a respectable program.....Look at WLC....how many years did they go without a win? They to have started to build up a program as well

The balance of power will change but it will take time...Eventually teams like Whitewater and Mt. Union will not be the top teams in the country....this happens in every level of football no doubt about it

Teams in the NAC have done a great job of expanding by playing teams in the bigger conferences....these might not be the top teams but it is still a step in the right direction

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 10, 2010, 02:28:51 PM
We've got Regional Rankings... Final time for the season that we'll see them:

http://d3blogs.com/d3football/2010/11/10/ncaas-third-regional-rankings/
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 10, 2010, 09:26:50 PM
My guesses for the last week of the regular season.

AU@CUC- "Game of the Week". AU's D has it going but can they stop the machine on O? If they can run the ball they will eat up time and will win. AU wins 28-27 in a barn burner.

CUW@LC- CUW has come on as of late and has to much D for LC. CUW wins 24-18.

MBBC@RC- RC is home and has a slight advantage. RC wins a defensive struggle 9-6.

BU@WLC- IMHO it's a trap game for BU. WLC can't make it to the playoffs and plays this game like a championship game for them. WLC wins 21-20.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2010, 09:40:48 AM
WLCALUM83's last 2010 regular season guesses:

Concordia-Chicago
Concordia-WI
Rockford
Benedictine  (Putting my head over my heart on this one-- (WLC's gotta be wondering "how big a lead do we need to get on these guys to feel safe?)  IL Eagles' Borselino & Co could have a field day with too many Warrior turnovers. No matter what the result, WLC will have finished above .500 for the first time in school history on the gridiiron-- 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 12, 2010, 01:41:04 PM
speaking of facility upgrades (per the BU website)

"Future upgrades to the Rice Center will include a 7,500-square foot cardio and circuit training area, a 5,200-square foot strength training area, an "Eagles Legend Center" which will house the Athletics Hall of Fame, a reception area, fitness center, yoga/pilates studio and conference center."

This is a step in the right direction for BU, their beautiful field, a new state of the art work out facility, and a conference championship ring are all GREAT sales pitches to future recruits! Also, this team is pretty young! The whole Oline minus their center is returning next year, along with Borsellino and Austin.  Defensively you lose some, but you still have a solid nucleus of players, starting with the Dline (3 out of 4 return next yr) (2 out of  DBs return) and (1 out of 3 LBs return).

There is a lot to be excited about if your a BU fan, the school is obviously making a conscious effort to become a premier program in the area and hopefully we get there!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 13, 2010, 03:53:23 PM
Another wild scoring affair from River Forest. CUC - 45  AU - 38 with 2:00 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 13, 2010, 04:10:22 PM
Wow. CUC goes for it on 4th & 5 at the Aurora 40 up by 7 and throw a screen pass for a TD. Then Aurora comes back and scores a late TD, but CUC recovers the onside kick to hold on - 52-45 Concordia. A little too much offense for CUC today.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FishHack76 on November 13, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
The Maranatha losing streak is OVER
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 13, 2010, 05:14:26 PM
BU wins 35-14
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 14, 2010, 06:16:05 PM
Since WLC was a former member of our conference i.e. the MIAA (of which we were grateful for their willingness to join the league as a football affiliate ot help maintain the AQ for those years), I would like to say congratulations to their team, staff and fans here, including WLCAlum83 and WLCAlum for the winning season this year.  That is great!  Except for the win against us (Hope)! ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tommiegun on November 15, 2010, 03:59:10 PM
Congratulations to Benedictine on their championship!  If any fans are coming to St. Thomas this weekend, might I suggest a few area highlights:

For the Pizza Lover--> Try Davanni's on the corner of Cleveland and Grand Avenues near the St. Thomas campus.  Although no comparison to a Chicago pie, it is a local fav.

For the Burger Lover--> There is nothing quite like a Juicy Luicy.  Although born on the Southside of Minneapolis, the Lucy has become a delicacy in St. Paul.  I'd suggest stopping by The Nook, across the street from Cretin-Derham Hall HS (alma mater of Joe Mauer, Paul Moliter, and Chris Weinke) or The Blue Door, a tiny bar just minutes from St. Thomas.

For the Beer Lover--> A recently started local brewery, Surly's, produces some awesome microbrews.  The Furious is my favorite.  However, if you'd like to sample traditional Minnesota beers I'd suggest the Firebrick from Schell's or a local legend, GrainBelt Premium. 

For the Partier--> Grand Avenue is your scene.  Billy's and the Wild Onion are collegiate haunts.

Enjoy your trip to St. Paul. 

Go Tommies.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 15, 2010, 05:55:49 PM
Tommiegun,
Does UST do any live video or audio streaming of their games??
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tommiegun on November 15, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
Yes.  They will be having a videocast. http://www.tommiesports.com/ftbl/news/NCAA_Tix_11-15.html

The video quality is good.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 15, 2010, 08:23:20 PM
Awesome, thank you tommiegun.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tommiegun on November 16, 2010, 11:53:02 AM
So, what's the word on Benedictine?  From the looks of it they have a fairly balanced offense...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 16, 2010, 12:06:40 PM
I am not a Benedictine follower necessarily but saw them on their video feed (a very good quality one at that, as was mentioned on the basketball board last night for their basketball game vs. IWU) a couple of times. Their offense in their first conference game vs. Concordia-Chicago seemed to be fairly balanced run-pass. I'm not sure that their QB is a "runner" but he did gain some valuable yards by scrambling around and running downfield a bit.  Most of their passes were short "outs" or "middle distance" in the seams. (Not many "bombs" in the air.) Their running back runs hard out of the I and got most of his yards off tackle and especially around end on stretch handoffs in the games I saw.

Their two closest conference games were their first two of the year as they really weren't challenged after that. Their defense gave up 42 to CUC who passed pretty much at will in the first of the two.  It was interesting that two of their non-conference losses came to a team who is a "running" team (North Park) and a "passing" team (Kalamazoo).

Their two closest conference games were their first two of the year and really weren't challenged after that.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 17, 2010, 12:00:52 AM
Pretty good analysis from RF. A few other notes, BU's O is the strength of their team, even though they are  very young (8 players return next year).  Pretty balanced as RF said, biggest playmaker is # 1 he runs very hard but can also make you miss.  They have two receivers that are each nearing 1,000 yards receiving, one is more of a possession guy and the other is more of a deep threat.  The QB is very good, he is a big kid with a strong arm, he is also a very efficient passer. both him and the RB #1 are transfers from Illinois State University. The O line is a young unit, mostly sophmores, but has jelled pretty well and should be a strength for BU for the next couple years. The defense was very young at the begining of the year, only 5 returning starters from the year before and they have gotten much better since then. I saw that someone posted that the Dline is small, and I would say they are but they do have bigger bodies that they rotate in. They are rotated in bc they are only frosh, they have also improved. How about St. Thomas, any insight?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: tommiegun on November 17, 2010, 10:27:24 AM
St. Thomas is a run first offense that likes to pound the ball, with or without a FB, off tackle.  #8 has been somewhat injured this year but is an absolute horse.  He never seems to be that good, as many MIAC observers will tell you, but always gets his yards and TD's.  #37 is the speed burst runner who offers a nice change of pace.  St. Thomas #17 at QB is a run first, option type, guy that is very, very shifty but has become a much better pass thrower over the year.  He plays most of the snaps but every once and awhile #22, the pass first option, plays.  #4 is the best receiver - I think you will be impressed by how difficult he is to tackle.

The defense is stout.  They don't take a ton of risks - bend don't break D.  They have, however, struggled somewhat with teams who are able to just flat out run between the tackles (St. Johns, Bethel).

Overall, they are a very good team from a very good conference (3rd best all-time playoff record; granted, mostly St. John's) and are a #1 seed.  Hopefully they will perform as such.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 17, 2010, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on November 17, 2010, 12:00:52 AM
A few other notes, BU's O is the strength of their team, even though they are  very young (8 players return next year).  The QB is very good, he is a big kid with a strong arm, he is also a very efficient passer. both him and the RB #1 are transfers from Illinois State University.

You know, I saw the BU-CUC finale in 2009, and the Benedictine offense in that game - close to the vest, power running, and rather methodical - was remarkably different than the 2010 version I saw, and I couldn't figure how (or why) they were so much more wide-open and "explosive" (for the NathCon). I would say that the QB (his name escapes me, but I noticed that he was ranked in the top 5 in the nation in dIII passing efficiency) and Borselino made a world of difference for them.  Since they were "unknowns", it is no surprise that BU was not picked higher in the preseason NathCon picks, but I'm sure that it won't happen again next year. If they're not picked to finish first next year I would be shocked.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on November 17, 2010, 05:33:41 PM
I know that Borsellino should be back for BU next year but what of the QB Preston Earl (son of former Chicago Bear Robin)? I seem to remember seeing him listed as a senior on a roster. Does he have any eligibility left?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 18, 2010, 08:45:05 AM
I dont think Earl has any eligibility left after this season. He is a SR, but bc of transferring and what not he may have another yr.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 19, 2010, 10:33:48 AM
My guesses for this weeks 1st round in the St. Thomas bracket.

BU@ST.Thomas- If BU can pass the ball it will not be a blow out(more than 50 points) if they can't move the ball it is a 50+ point loss. ST.Thomas 63-7

Cal Lutheran@Linfield- I only know Linfield has a excellent history and saw them last year at Whitewater. Linfield wins 28-19

Bethal@Wartburg- Maybe one of the better games in the 1st. round. Wartburg wins a tough defensive battle 14-9

Coe @Wheaton- Wheaton is tough at home. Wheaton wins 21-14

Good Luck to BU, play your best ball of the year on Saturday.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 19, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: old 40 on November 19, 2010, 10:33:48 AM
My guesses for this weeks 1st round in the St. Thomas bracket.

BU@ST.Thomas- If BU can pass the ball it will not be a blow out(more than 50 points) if they can't move the ball it is a 50+ point loss. ST.Thomas 63-7

Yikes. I hope Benny doesn't have to break out the highway patrol defense. ("Son, you gotta keep 'em under 55.")

Seriously, good luck BU and represent the conference well.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 21, 2010, 05:41:15 AM
Highway patrol defense-- first time I've heard that one--

Better than the "Matador" ("Toro, toro, ole") defense--  ;) ;) ;) :-X
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 23, 2010, 02:32:41 PM
Just look at the NAC web site and the all conference teams are listed.

Congrats to all. A job well done. Noticed alot of Seniors on the team this year. Thats a great way to end your careers.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on December 13, 2010, 09:04:34 AM
Congrats to Khyree Copeland for being named to the 2nd team All-North Region Team!

Also, 4 Cougars have been selected to play in an All-Star game this weekend up at the Metrodome (hopefully the roof gets fixed). Mike Eggebrecht, Mike Marotta, Khyree Copeland, and Mason Thompson (sorry if I left any one out) are playing up in Minneapolis this weekend. From the sounds of it, they will have quite the following heading up to the real frozen tundra to watch them play. Congrats to those Cougars!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedblue on December 14, 2010, 01:55:17 PM
Congrats to AU's Mike Langhurst for being selected as a AFCA All-American!!!

http://athletics.aurora.edu/news/2010/12/13/FB_1213103825.aspx
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on December 14, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: Cougswillwin on December 13, 2010, 09:04:34 AM
Congrats to Khyree Copeland for being named to the 2nd team All-North Region Team!

Also, 4 Cougars have been selected to play in an All-Star game this weekend up at the Metrodome (hopefully the roof gets fixed). Mike Eggebrecht, Mike Marotta, Khyree Copeland, and Mason Thompson (sorry if I left any one out) are playing up in Minneapolis this weekend. From the sounds of it, they will have quite the following heading up to the real frozen tundra to watch them play. Congrats to those Cougars!

Curtis Underwood is also on the list of Cougars playing in that game. Now of course, waiting to find out where that game will be. As of right now (Tuesday night), the Metrodome calendar has all events canceled until Monday's Bears-Vikings game. The All-American Bowl website was supposed to announce something today, but it appears that they are going overtime to try and nail down an alternate venue.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on December 15, 2010, 01:01:12 PM
QuoteThe All-American Bowl website was supposed to announce something today, but it appears that they are going overtime to try and nail down an alternate venue.

New venue is the Gibson/Nagurski indoor facility on the University of Minnesota campus.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on December 17, 2010, 10:24:24 AM
Thanks for the information...I've played there once, its a pretty nice facility. Im not too sure how spectator friendly it will be though.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on December 21, 2010, 09:35:10 AM
Anyone know how the NAC guys did this past weekend in the all star game?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: matblake on February 03, 2011, 01:07:10 PM
Interesting news about officiating: http://www.cciw.org/news/2011/2/1/FB_0201110059.aspx
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on February 07, 2011, 10:06:04 PM
Quote from: matblake on February 03, 2011, 01:07:10 PM
Interesting news about officiating: http://www.cciw.org/news/2011/2/1/FB_0201110059.aspx

This poster wonders how many other schools in other D3 regions have similar arrangements in place.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 06, 2011, 07:49:48 AM
Here's news on a prep player headed Concordia-Chicago's direction:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/118549199.html

("Committed" section).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on April 13, 2011, 10:57:39 AM
BU set to unveil the newly renovated rice center this August!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 16, 2011, 06:03:51 AM
Here's news about a coaching change at Maranatha:

http://northernac.org/releases/2011/2011_04/20110415a.html
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on May 07, 2011, 04:50:50 PM
How is recruiting for each of your teams, anyone hear anything??
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on July 10, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
Hey everyone, just saying what's up. Im new to the board and trying to learn how to use it. Have been a follower of Benedictine for a while now and also the NAC since it started. Just trying to make some conversation since the board has been quiet for a while. How is everyones teams shaping up and predictions for the upcoming season? Im very excited for the season to start, wish it were sooner!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on July 10, 2011, 04:58:47 PM
Quote from: Zeus51 on July 10, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
Hey everyone, just saying what's up. Im new to the board and trying to learn how to use it. Have been a follower of Benedictine for a while now and also the NAC since it started. Just trying to make some conversation since the board has been quiet for a while. How is everyones teams shaping up and predictions for the upcoming season? Im very excited for the season to start, wish it were sooner!

Welcome to the board! WLC's working on Phase 1 of an expansion on their athletic facilty-expected to have upgraded their football facility in time for the beginning of the fall season.

(Your Eagles have had WLC's number in football--)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 11, 2011, 10:08:14 AM
WLC that's great, I love WLC's field what r they upgrading over there? Welcome Zeus, I finally got another BU follower out there! We should have a good team again this year rumor has it we got a couple stud transfers which should help our chances, you hear anything?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on July 11, 2011, 01:55:35 PM
This is the link with the news as to WLC's upgrading:

http://www.wlcsports.com/page.asp?articleID=1997
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 11, 2011, 07:27:49 PM
WLC, just checked out your link, that is going to be beautiful for the college and their athletes! With those upgrades WLC and BU have the nicest football stadiums in the conference, idk who I give the first place edge to??
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on July 18, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
Hey everybody, .. Anyone know about CUC recruiting class? or transfers coming in? ???
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on July 19, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: MRedbirds77 on July 18, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
Hey everybody, .. Anyone know about CUC recruiting class? or transfers coming in? ???

I haven't heard much, but understand they have a transfer QB coming in. I'm not sure if he is a Juco transfer or from another 4 year school.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 20, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
RF, there haven't been many followers on the board lately so I don't think your going to get much of an answer until closer to camp.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 20, 2011, 07:06:03 PM
d3fan1515

I have been off the board for awhile. Not much going on so I thought we would wait till the season got closer. I follow AU, my middle son graduated last year and my youngest is going to play at an NAIA school this fall. I hope to see some AU games especially BU. This should be for all the marbles. I have heard that AU has over 60 Freshmen and transfers coming in. IMHO they will have the Best QB, TE and Defense in the league. I think BU will be as good this year as last but will miss the QB. In AU land some kids say they have several good transfers, like they did a year ago. IMHO BU has the best RB in the NAC. I think WLC has a kid who is also very good.

Have not heard much about anyone else but my friend has a kid at CUW and I hear they have two top QB's coming in, one from Florida and one from Wisconsin somewhere. I think they are the sleeper team and could be in the mix, their preseason schedule is very hard.

Talk to everybody later on and good luck to everyone's team this year.

Pat when do you think the kickoff signup will be ready. Great report, can't wait.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 21, 2011, 07:19:31 PM
Wow, those are some great numbers for AU, they should have more then enough bodies to draw from with those kind of numbers.  I have to agree with you on the AU-BU game, I definitely think that should be for all the marbles or it is a let down season for both teams. I also agree with you on AU's QB situation as he was a pretty good player last year, I expect nothing less then a battle when we play you guys and I'm sure it will be. Now for BU's pre season offensive outlook!

Offensive Returnees,
RB- Returning starter- 5'8 185 lbs, John Borsellino, probably the most explosive player in the NAC, if John plays as well as he did last year, I think he can be a nominee for NAC player of the year!

QB- 5'10 190 lbs,  Matt Brown, Matt got a lot of playing time the first 3 games last year as him and Earl battled it out, however he ended up losing the starting spot to Earl come conference play. Matt is a little bit smaller then Earl, but he is more athletic so I can see him making more plays with his feet then Earl did! Spoke with some of the guys from last years team and they told me that they believed that Brown made better decisions with the football then Earl did.

WO- Returning starter- 6'2 205 lbs, Brandin Austin, big, strong, physical kid who has great hands and goes up to get the ball Brandin had a great year last year and I believe will have an even better year this year!

T- Returning starter, 6'2 320 lbs, Kevin Novacich, a big physical kid who plays hard from whistle to whistle probably BU's best linemen.

T- Returning starter, 6'5 275 lbs, Patrick Sterk, another big kid who was only a sophomore last year, he now has a full year of experience under his belt, and another year in the weight room under his belt so I'm looking for big improvement from this guy this year.

G- Returning starter, 6'0 290 lbs, Dewey Henninger, tough kid who is also very strong should also show lots of improvement this year as he was only a sophomore last year as well.

G- Returning Starter, 6'4 275 lbs, Stephan Segura, a transfer last year from D2 Lincoln university, he was rotated in as he did not grasp all of the offense right off the bat, but I expect him to be a starter this year and I expect him and novacich to anchor the O-line!

C- Not sure who will take the centers spot from last year, I know BU got Kyle Bulfer back 6'0 285 lbs, who was a starter as a sophomore but then left school, but is now back again. I can see him being this guy, guess we will find out come camp.

FB- A question mark for the eagles this year, I know they recruited a few fb's this off season, so I can't really preview this position yet.

WO- Another question mark for the eagles this year, though I hear they got a transfer from a D2 school to fill this void, but again another question mark at the moment.

TE- Returning starter, 6'0 215 lbs, a main stay for the eagles at this position for the last few years, mostly relied on to block, and he does a good job at it, but he can also cath the ball pretty well which is a plus.

Other players of note, John Alessi, Eddie Boncela, and Derek Hitt.

BU has some definite returning talent coming into the season, the offense should be a real strength for BU this year and I am looking forward to seeing these guys go to work come august 14th. Defensive preview coming soon.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on July 26, 2011, 07:18:05 PM
I know the board has been quiet but I hope all the old and new users have $10.00 to spend on the 2011 Kickoff. It's a Great read on D3 football. I would encourage all to buy one. I just signed up for it. It's easy if a AU guy can do it.

More football stuff later when I hear something.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on August 09, 2011, 01:45:23 PM
I am excited to see the BU, CUC game.I was at a different game the one two years ago, but I was at the one last year where CUC could not stop any kind of pass...As far as the recent comment of that RB from BU being the most exciting player in the NAC I think that #1 WR from CUC will be. I am excited to see how the cougars do on offense and if they change anything up. I know they will always have some kind of weapons on that side of the ball, but can the defense when it counts stop anybody? I am a little disappointed to see the most recent talk has been about BU and AU counting out the cougars who have been a nose hair away the past two seasons. But I am just a fan we will have to let the team,players, and coaches figure that out. I am starting to get excited for the season and wish every team in the NAC luck and can't wait to see some good games...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 09, 2011, 08:23:43 PM
R comments about AU and BU are based on what each team has returning. AU as well as BU both have a lot of returning starters coming back and as everyone knows you win championships with Juniors and Seniors! I think CUC has been left out of the conversation as of late because we all know that they lost a very talented SR class and I think that is why they are not being talked about like AU and BU. That being said the games are won on the field not on this message board, but it is fun to speculate.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on August 10, 2011, 11:50:23 AM
Part of the fun of this part of the year is to see which new players - be they freshman or transfers -  the respective conference schools bring in.

Speaking of bringing in new players, I think the standard for this year has to be Concordia - Ann Arbor. According to their website they are bringing in 80 :o freshman for this, the second year of their program. However, they are playing a regular schedule (not a jv one) with primarily freshman along with about a dozen sophs.

They may need those 80 freshman . . . 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 13, 2011, 02:57:24 PM
Here's WLC's latest football-related press release:

http://wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2111
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 14, 2011, 10:49:18 PM
BU had 138 players report to camp on day 1 of camp!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 17, 2011, 11:46:38 AM
BU tabbed as pre-season favorite by the coaches poll, followed by AU and CIRF.  BU ousted AU by 1 vote, should be a wild ride in the NAC this 2011 season!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on August 18, 2011, 02:31:04 PM
I saw the rankings came out for the NAC and even though I been following my cougars for awhile now since I moved into the area with my family, I do agree those other two teams should be ahead of them in the rankings. I have heard but am unsure that CUC got a very good RB and QB transfer but I don't know that for a fact yet. I am hoping CUC can stop the pass and make it over the hump they came short of these past two years. ;D .. The season is right around the corner and I ready to see BU vs AU, AU vs CUC, and can't wait for BU vs CUC, as I fan I am just hoping to see some close games. Once I find out for sure if CUC got those transfer and where they are from I will let you guys know,,until then
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on August 18, 2011, 02:59:59 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on August 10, 2011, 11:50:23 AM
Part of the fun of this part of the year is to see which new players - be they freshman or transfers -  the respective conference schools bring in.

Speaking of bringing in new players, I think the standard for this year has to be Concordia - Ann Arbor. According to their website they are bringing in 80 :o freshman for this, the second year of their program. However, they are playing a regular schedule (not a jv one) with primarily freshman along with about a dozen sophs.

They may need those 80 freshman . . .  

RFMichigan:

That reminds me of "way back when" at U of Pitt in the mid-1970's when Johnny Majors brought in 80 freshmen, one of whom was a skinny 160 lb freshman running back, who started the fall as the #6 running back.  He went on to gain over 1,000 yards his freshman year (not even starting the first couple of games or so as I recall) and thereafter, one of their greatest players ever.  His name, of course?...Tony Dorsett.  I remember that was a huge amount of freshman to bring in at that time anywhere, let alone DI, which I think was unheard of for DI at that time and obviously cannot happen today (except at perhaps DIII, NAIA - I don't think DII can do it or would want to). Maybe Concordia-Ann Arbor is on to something?!!! ;D

Since your post is the topic of #s reporting to camp, Hope had 116 report on Sunday/Monday, which is down from the 150-160 range we've had the past few years.  On the other hand, the "smaller" number is obviously much more manageable, even with the usual attrition that will inevitably occur during the first week for various reasons (players leaving and/or injuries, obviously, hoping the latter is minimal if any).  Anyway, thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 21, 2011, 08:46:00 PM
Who are the NAC teams scrimmaging this weekend? BU is scrimmaging Illinois Weslyan!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 22, 2011, 11:32:39 AM
d3fan-

AU scrimmages North Central on Thursday.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 22, 2011, 03:54:37 PM
Attended the Red and White game, few questions I had about the team stood out to me!

QB- made very good decisions and has a very good arm! Was nervous about this kid, but I feel better about him now!

RB- Stud!

OL- Should pick up right were the left off last year!

WO- Austin is a stud, the other spot is being battled out right now by 3 guys!

The defense is were I had most of my questions and most of them got answered!

DL- is BIG unlike the last few years at BU the DL is going to be big for the next few years! They got a transfer DE who is 6'3 280 according to roster and can run!

LB's- looked good they got one returning starter back, and they got a transfer MLB from Harper who is very good and very athletic, the Will LB is still being sorted out, 2 guys in the hunt for that position.

DBs- 3 of 4 returners, they are all very good ball players! The FS is being worked out two kids gunning for that position!

I will have more to come after the Weslyan scrimmage! This will be more of a test to truly see were we r at!

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 26, 2011, 12:24:55 AM
How did AU look vs. North Central tonight?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on August 26, 2011, 12:42:39 AM
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Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on August 29, 2011, 09:34:42 AM
CUC's roster is up; about 95 total with about 45 frosh. They lost a ton of contributing seniors from last year plus a lineman or two that were listed as juniors last year who are not on the roster this year.

"Back in the day" Concordia regularly lost an eligible player or two to student teaching their senior year.  (Concordia was originally named "Concordia Teachers College", and for a while, educating teachers and pastors was the sole purpose of the school.) It still has a large teacher education program, but I'll have to check why the missing players.

Some checking found that they brought in a transfer QB from Grand Valley State (MI), one of the better DII programs in the nation. He's listed as a senior, so it looks as though it's the same situation as Benedictine's QB from last year, Preston Earl, who came in as a transfer for his senior year.

Can somebody fill me in on the percentages of returning football players by class for NAC schools or DIII. Is 50% Are there some stats out there? (I can't find any online.) My guess the turnover for NAC schools is maybe for freshmen is somewhat higher than conferences such as the CCIW or MIAA? Or not.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 29, 2011, 10:41:07 AM
RFMichigan

Saw your note on CUC's QB from Grand Valley. He was at AU a couple of years ago when my som played. I do not know what happened but he only stayed a year. Hope he can help. IMHO he is a lomg  way from AU's current QB. Good Luck to CUC this year as they still should be good despite the loses.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on August 29, 2011, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: old 40 on August 29, 2011, 10:41:07 AM
RFMichigan

Saw your note on CUC's QB from Grand Valley. He was at AU a couple of years ago when my som played. I do not know what happened but he only stayed a year. Hope he can help. IMHO he is a lomg  way from AU's current QB. Good Luck to CUC this year as they still should be good despite the loses.
Interesting note about the QB - thanks. I don't know if he's going to be the starter or not, but CUC only has three QB's listed on their roster, one who has been the backup to Marotta for the last two years.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 29, 2011, 04:31:50 PM
RFMichigan

I suspect whoever they have at QB will be able to throw to their speedy WR. I think they have have 2-3 returners at WR.

I have not seen AU practice or scrimmage because my youngest son is playing for St. Xavier but my oldest son saw AU practice and said their QB is better than last year and they have 3 really good receivers. Their TE is the best in the league. He thinks the Defense is looking fast and should be strong again. AU vs BU will be for all the marbles come the 2nd week of the conference season.

My son has a buddy who is a CUW grad and they are going to be much improved. They may be the sleeper if AU and BU have a let down. I looked at their roster and they have several freshmen from Florida and a 6'6" WR. They gave AU a good game last year and their D was one of the top in the league.

How is everyones team looking? What's everyones predictions for the conference finish. My  guesses are;
1-AU, 2-Tie BU&CUW 4-CUC, 5-WLC, 6-LC, 7-MBC, 8-RC.

This weeks game predictions later in the week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 30, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
I agree with you old40 I think CUW will be a force this year as well. They will have something to say about who wins the conference!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 30, 2011, 09:54:20 AM
For this weeks predictions, I think CC, BU, AU, and WLC get W's this week! I think the conference goes 4-4. Please prove me wrong other NathC teams, I want our conference to have a better pre-season showing!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on August 30, 2011, 08:52:53 PM
Just wanted to say congrats to these two NAC football players for being named as midwest region players to watch this year!!!

John Borsellino, running back, junior, Benedictine: After losing its quarterback and top receiver to graduation, the Eagles will look to Borsellino to carry the load, who averaged nearly 90 yards a game in 2010. The first-team All-Northern Athletic Conference performer will have help running behind other first-team all-conference lineman Bryan Wieseman and tight end Kevin Novacich.

Derek DiNino, defensive line, senior, Aurora: DiNino, another first-team All-Northern Athletic Conference performer, will anchor the Spartans defensive line as Aurora tries to unseat Benedictine for the conference title. DiNino had 48 tackles and returned one interception 85 yards for a touchdown last season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on August 30, 2011, 10:25:44 PM
Ahhh, another year of NAC football,

I hope CUC can get some quality players to replace Copeland at RB and Marotta at QB. Egebrecht is gone at WR, but they have Thomas who had over 1,000 yards receiving back, so at least one of the spots should be ok. 

Old 40 was talking about a 6'6 WR at CUW, I realize looking at height means nothing until you see them play, but CUC has a 6'7 WR on the roster.  If he's athletic and coordinated he could be dangerous, but we won't know until the season starts of course.  I am still predicting CUC finishing at 1, 2 or 3 as long as Pries did a good job of recruiting.

Guess we will find out!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on August 30, 2011, 10:31:37 PM
After looking at the CUC's roster that was posted up, I can tell you one thing whoever the QB ends up being is going to be big and able to move. One is 6-4 225 and the other 6-3 235 and I hear both are considered dual threats, which is going to give them a little different type offensive look from their stud QB from last year. Looking closer at their roster the defense is really not missing any of it's playmakers, but my main concern is if they can stop the pass because last year my sons grade school team could have thrown all over them as BU showed and U of Chicago.  But someone who posted earlier was right on top of the 2 O-linemen missing due to graduation there is another not on the roster anymore, so that means they are missing three starters there. There is no doubt they will have 3 or 4 speedy returning WR's that can all make plays. I will be at the game saturday with some of my co-workers and be able to give you more then. I am excited to see what CUC has to bring to the table saturday...... Does anyone know how the BU scrimmage went against ILL wesleyan? or any other scrimmages went? Game day is a couple days away and we will be able to tell soon enough what these NAC teams are bringing to the table...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 31, 2011, 03:54:58 PM
Zeus51

Those two are really good. The AU kid I have seen for last 3 years and he is good and IMHO the top DL in the NAC. I also have previously said that BU RB is also the best back in the league. I wish both well.

What is everyones predictions this week?
CUC over Lake Forest- 31-14 CUC still has firepower
CUW over Augsburg- CUW at home and pulls the upset 21-20
Carroll over LC- I don't know anything about Carroll or what LC has. Carroll wins 24-7
AU over North Park- The AU D should stymie the option. AU wins 24-14
Westminster over RC- I am not familiar with Westminester but they will win 26-0
Martin Luther over MBBC- 31-7
Ripon over WLC- WLC lost big on D. Ripon wins 34-10
BU over Eureka- BU wins easy 41-14

Good Luck to everyones Team this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 31, 2011, 04:24:44 PM
I'll go with

CUC
Augsburg
Carroll
AU
Westminster
Martin Luther
Ripon
BU
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: jayhawkdaddy on August 31, 2011, 05:17:20 PM
I'm pulling for:
CUC - to roll all over Lake Forest
Augsburg  -  Good game but AC too much for CUW
Carroll U  -  In a romp!
Aurora U  -  gets by NPU by a field goal
Westminster  -  has an easy time with Rockford
Martin Luther  -  The trophy stays with MLC for another year!
Benedictine U  -  Another easy win for BU
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: jayhawkdaddy on September 01, 2011, 05:29:42 PM
Sorry....I left off the Ripon/WLC game.
I pick  -  Ripon
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 03, 2011, 02:51:07 PM
CUC still has firepower, but their D is giving up big plays by the bushel. With about 13 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter, it's Lake Forest 21 - CUC 19. Just no defense either way.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 03, 2011, 05:06:47 PM
7:20 to go in the 2nd quarter and they're in a long rain delay with Lake Forest up 28-26. This has "last team with the ball wins" written all over it. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 03, 2011, 05:11:19 PM
Well, the last team with the ball won't have it today. The last entry on the play-by-play on LiveStats says, "Football finished for today. When play resumes, CUC will have the ball . . ." I'm guessing they finish it tomorrow(?).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 03, 2011, 06:46:11 PM
Very surprised by the AU score, was anyone there? What happened?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 03, 2011, 08:34:45 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 03, 2011, 06:46:11 PM
Very surprised by the AU score, was anyone there? What happened?

See my game recap on the CCIW page.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 04, 2011, 12:13:18 AM
BU wins 45-7, Borsellino goes for 194 yards and scores 3! Austin goes for 120 and gets a TD, and #97 is a beast on the Dline, 3.5 sacks! I'll have more Tmr!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2011, 01:14:44 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 03, 2011, 05:11:19 PM
Well, the last team with the ball won't have it today. The last entry on the play-by-play on LiveStats says, "Football finished for today. When play resumes, CUC will have the ball . . ." I'm guessing they finish it tomorrow(?).

The indication I got from Lake Forest was that it was not being finished.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: dizzle52 on September 06, 2011, 12:40:48 PM
I only saw the first half of the AU game, but from what I saw AU was just unable to get anything going on offense and North Park was dominating the ground game with over 350 yards.  AU was forced to pass the ball 48 times while NP only needed to attempt 3.  While North Park is a much much improved team then recent years, AU didn't really show up for this one.  Give the credit to North Park.  They came to play.  The good news is that this was the first non conference game of a potentially conference championship season for AU.  Spartans have MacMurray next week at home, which should be an easy win if AU shakes off the ugly loss and comes with their heads on right
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 06, 2011, 04:15:05 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran       Hope   - Hope
Rockford                       Loras- Loras      
MacMurray                       Aurora- Aurora, bounces back and beats up on MacMurray   
Bethel (Minn.)               Concordia Wisconsin- Bethel, this could get ugly!      
Crown (Minn.)               Maranatha- Crown, this is a total guess
Chicago                       Concordia Chicago- Chicago, another guess!
North Park                       Benedictine- BU, I gotta take my team!             
Lakeland                       Carthage- Carthage      
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 07, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
Good Luck to eberyones team this week. Looks like rain again for Chicago and Indiana. I am going to catch the AU game if it does not rain. I want to see their QB and D at work. I saw BU last week and was impressed with their receivers. Eureka was slow and small. North Park will be a big test for BU. This game and AU will make or break their season.

Week 2
WLC at Hope- WLC wins a close one 14-12
RC at Loras- Loras has too much for RC 37-7
MacMurray at AU- Look out records should fall in this one, AU56-0
Bethal at CUW- CUW will keep it respectable , Bethal 28-14
Crown at MBBC- Crown wins 31-13
Chicago at CUC- Chicago wins barely 28-27
North Park at BU- Bu wins on last second bomb 28-27
LC at Carthage- Carthage easy 31-7
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 07, 2011, 05:16:10 PM
Congrats to BenU's John Borsellino and Billy Dixon for being named the NAC players of the week! Borsellino was named the offensive player of the week and Dixon was named the special teams player of the week. A kid from Maranatha was named the Defensive player of the week, but his name escapes me at the moment. Congrats to him as well!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on September 08, 2011, 12:03:27 AM
This week for CUC I am very nervous due to last week what I saw while I was there....I had my younger son at the game so once the weather hit we left..But I saw alot of different formations from their O and tons of weapons,and what was suspected from their D, they gave up big after big play... This Chicago team is no joke to my understanding and if the cougars don't come to play it could get ugly in Riverforest...I am a fan of the cougars and hope they beat this good Chicago team...I can't even say cougars win this won but I think it is going to be a high scoring offensive show from both teams..congrads to the nac players of the week and I wish the best for every NAC team this week....Well see what the cougars do this weekend when they actually play a whole game. ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 08, 2011, 12:16:03 PM
Quote from: MRedbirds77 on September 08, 2011, 12:03:27 AM
This week for CUC I am very nervous due to last week what I saw while I was there....I had my younger son at the game so once the weather hit we left..But I saw alot of different formations from their O and tons of weapons,and what was suspected from their D, they gave up big after big play... This Chicago team is no joke to my understanding and if the cougars don't come to play it could get ugly in Riverforest...I am a fan of the cougars and hope they beat this good Chicago team...I can't even say cougars win this won but I think it is going to be a high scoring offensive show from both teams..congrads to the nac players of the week and I wish the best for every NAC team this week....Well see what the cougars do this weekend when they actually play a whole game. ;D

Based strictly on the games I saw on video last year, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Chicago is going to be the best team CUC faces this year. I know that BU and AU among others in the conference will be tough, and Adrian will be a top team in the MIAA, but last year's domination by the Maroons was complete. Of course, if CUC's D doesn't improve from last week, it doesn't matter who they play, because they'll make any team look like the Packers. I will be at this game, so I'm looking forward to some improvement.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: DWinzee on September 08, 2011, 02:42:11 PM
CUW faces an incredible challenge this week with Bethel who is coming off a great opening game against Simpson. I believe this game will tell a lot about how far CUW has come since last season, especially offensively. CUW may be a black horse this year in the NAC, and suprise some people.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 08, 2011, 05:47:49 PM
My Week 2 guesses:

WLC/Hope:           Hope  (they'll remember the near miss they had last year-and get even for that)
RC/Loras:             Loras
MacMurray/AU:     Aurora
Bethel/CUW:     Bethel
Crown/MBBC:     Crown
Chicago/CUC      Chicago
North Park/BU:    Benedictine (note similar situation to WLC/Hope above)
Lakeland/Carthage:  Carthage







Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 08, 2011, 06:24:42 PM
DWinzee, it has been stated on previous pages that CUW will be a good team this yr, I don't think they are a dark horse, I think they will be right up there with the rest of the top teams. Good luck to CUW this weekend!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hazzben on September 10, 2011, 04:20:41 PM
Concordia Wisconsin announcer just advocated a running clock for blowouts once Bethel went up 48 - 0. His argument...it's just D3 football.  >:(  ::)

Someone from the school should explain to this doofus that simply because it's D3 doesn't mean it should follow high school rules (which is essentially his argument). This is college football!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on September 10, 2011, 06:54:19 PM
CUC really showed up to play today and took away any doubts in my head. 28-10 was the final and besides all the formations and tons of playmakers they have on offense their defense held a great offensive chicago team to just 10 points. The cougars to my understanding play a hard team in michigan after their bye week, but if they can get a victory up there, CUC will come rolling into conference. I knew that wr # 1 was good but they got another amazing playmaker in a wr young kid # 25. I am excited about these cougars and if their defense keeps showing up, the rest of the NAC better be ready for this high powered team. Hope all the other teams played well and remained injury free...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2011, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: hazzben on September 10, 2011, 04:20:41 PM
Concordia Wisconsin announcer just advocated a running clock for blowouts once Bethel went up 48 - 0. His argument...it's just D3 football.  >:(  ::)

If D-III football can't even get respect from a D-III football announcer, we're in trouble.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 11, 2011, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2011, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: hazzben on September 10, 2011, 04:20:41 PM
Concordia Wisconsin announcer just advocated a running clock for blowouts once Bethel went up 48 - 0. His argument...it's just D3 football.  >:(  ::)

If D-III football can't even get respect from a D-III football announcer, we're in trouble.
Quote from: hazzben on September 10, 2011, 04:20:41 PM
Concordia Wisconsin announcer just advocated a running clock for blowouts once Bethel went up 48 - 0. His argument...it's just D3 football.  >:(  ::)

Someone from the school should explain to this doofus that simply because it's D3 doesn't mean it should follow high school rules (which is essentially his argument). This is college football!

Yes, I agree with you guys.  They need to fire that idiot! >:( :P
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 11, 2011, 08:37:02 PM
Just ask Pierre Garcon or Fred Jackson if it's just "DIII football"!!

;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hazzben on September 11, 2011, 09:59:50 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 11, 2011, 08:37:02 PM
Just ask Pierre Garcon or Fred Jackson if it's just "DIII football"!!

;D


Exactly...and Fletcher and Shorts and Turk...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 12, 2011, 11:44:39 AM
The "doofus" or "idiot" in question is apparently Matt Menzl (http://www.blogger.com/profile/16565609895896826248), who has broadcasted Falcons football games for the past decade. He's an alumnus of CUW and is listed on the school's website as its director of broadcasting. (http://www.cuwfalcons.com/profile.asp?playerID=722) While his bio indicates that he broadcasts a lot of high-school sports, he also has a pretty extensive set of gigs on the high-amateur and pro circuits: Milwaukee Iron football games (Arena Football League), Green Bay Bullfrogs (Northwoods League, a summer amateur baseball league), and the pregame show for the basketball games of the D1 UW-Green Bay Phoenix.

In other words, the guy is not only a D3 alumnus and veteran D3 broadcaster, he's also a pro. All of which makes it completely inexplicable to me that he would say something like that on the air. To advocate a running clock in a blowout because "it's just D3 football" is to completely disrespect both your product and your employer on the air. There's gotta be some sort of an explanation behind this, because it just doesn't seem logical to me that a professional broadcaster would do such a thing.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 12, 2011, 12:29:16 PM
Quote from: MRedbirds77 on September 10, 2011, 06:54:19 PM
CUC really showed up to play today and took away any doubts in my head. 28-10 was the final and besides all the formations and tons of playmakers they have on offense their defense held a great offensive chicago team to just 10 points. The Cougars to my understanding play a hard team in michigan after their bye week, but if they can get a victory up there, CUC will come rolling into conference. I knew that wr # 1 was good but they got another amazing playmaker in a wr young kid # 25. I am excited about these cougars and if their defense keeps showing up, the rest of the NAC better be ready for this high powered team. Hope all the other teams played well and remained injury free...

I will have to say that I had fear and trepidation when CUC played Chicago because, after the Lake Forest outing, I was afraid that Chicago would run up and down the field on the Cougars. However, the defense was pretty stout and and least didn't give up a bunch of monster plays. They were the recipient of two timely turnovers and a missed field goal when Chicago was moving the ball on occasions when the outcome was very much in doubt.

Some observations:
Positives:
1) The defense didn't give up huge plays.The defensive backs played smart football, knew their assignments and reads on pass plays, and kept Brizzolara under control. They also did a decent job of run support so that the Chicago running backs didn't turn 8 or 12 yard gains into 60 yard TD's.

2) Their kicking game seems to be much stronger yardage-wise than in past years. The kickoffs were relatively deep (5-10 yard line) and the punter seems that he could average 35-40 yards net. They did get a punt blocked when it seemed the punter was a little too close to the snapper, but the next time he was a few yards deeper and got the ball off cleanly.

3)  Jake Kohler is a really nice quarterback. He brings a few things to the game that the past CUC quarterbacks didn't - namely a running option. He's 6'3" - 230lbs. for goodness sake with a little speed. Plus his height allows him to have a little better vision downfield, and he did make some awfully nice reads a few times when he was under pressure or scrambling around. His line for the game was really good.

4) The running back(s) who are replacing Copeland don't have the same straight-line speed, but they - Maddox especially - is pretty shifty and a little more powerful. Frankly, I was wishing they would run the ball with the running backs a little more.
Negatives:

1) They lost two starting offensive linemen to injuries and the injuries didn't look good. They're not that deep at the O-line position anyway, and now they down to playing some young kids.
Yikes.

2) CUC took too many penalties in a somewhat chippy game.

3) Chicago was often able to get past the D-line often on running plays, but I think interior running is a strength of Chicago, and CUC didn't let the running game get away from them.

4) Kohler was under constant pressure. I think alot of that was working in two inexperienced lineman. However, it's what they've got now and they're going to have to learn to better pass block if CUC is to have real success.

All in all, it was a pretty nice win for Concordia. The next two games will be equally if not more challenging. Adrian is really strong and Benedictine is, of course, the conference favorite for a reason. We'll see how things go in the next few games.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2011, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 12, 2011, 11:44:39 AM
In other words, the guy is not only a D3 alumnus and veteran D3 broadcaster, he's also a pro. All of which makes it completely inexplicable to me that he would say something like that on the air. To advocate a running clock in a blowout because "it's just D3 football" is to completely disrespect both your product and your employer on the air. There's gotta be some sort of an explanation behind this, because it just doesn't seem logical to me that a professional broadcaster would do such a thing.

Agreed. Matt's even called a couple games for us in the past and I would use him again if I could afford to pay him. :) I'm guessing that this was misheard or misinterpreted, because Matt has been there for a while.

When I saw the original post, I took it as a sign that Matt had moved on, because I know that's not something he would say.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 15, 2011, 10:01:51 PM
Looks like the NAC is shaping up to be a good run for the championship. Can you you believe that MBBC is 2-0. Thats Great and a Great Job by those kids and their coaches. I hope this week will be a good week for the NAC.

This weeks games
AU @ IWU- Very good game and close in score. AU brings the A game and upsets IWU 24-21
WLC @ Minn-Morris- Easy win for WLC 28-7
Alma at RC- Bad day for RC Alma wins 36-13
CUW @Carthage- CUW comes up short by a point 28-27, Carthage wins on last play of game
Macalaster@MBBC- MBBC makes it 3-0. MBBC wins 18-7

Two weeks till the conference openers. Good Luck to everyones team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 15, 2011, 10:26:13 PM
My week 3 guesses:

IL Wes
WLC
Alma
Carthage
MBBC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 16, 2011, 03:43:26 PM
I agree with WLC Alum, I'm taking the same pics.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 21, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
Was just looking at the NAC website and noticed 3 non conference games left before the NAC race starts. IMHO it looks like a 4 team race AU, CUC, BU and CUW will come on big despite 0-3 record. AU has to have their QB back to win it. It should be a good run at the championship.

What does everyone think about your teams chances after the non conference games.

Games this week:
Hope@LC- Hope wins 31-0 as LC has not scored this year.
BU@Kalamazoo- Very close game in WMU stadium. Kzoo wins 28-27
CUC@Adrian- CUC pulls the upset 31-28.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 22, 2011, 01:54:18 PM
My Week 4 guesses:

Hope
Kzoo
CUC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 22, 2011, 03:51:12 PM
I'll take BU, Hope and Adrian.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on September 23, 2011, 03:16:22 PM
I think the same as above BU,Hope, and Adrian.. I want to say the cougars are a very good team and can upset Adrian, but still too early to tell what is going to happen.If CUC pulls this one off against a undefeated and very good Adrian team, they should be good to take the conference, but CUC needs their defense to come to play and can't loose anymore O-Line because I am not sure of this but they have to be running low on depth there because they lost two players at that spot last game.. This should be good weekend for the NAC and even though I am unable to attend CUC's game this week, I think they come up alittle short., but I am excited for BU vs CUC next weekend. Good luck to all the teams this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 25, 2011, 08:58:16 PM
After seeing CUC against Adrian on Saturday, I am more confident CUC may have a chance to run the table this year. 

They came oh so close to beating a quality 4-0 Adrian squad.  Adrian beat Augustana last week by almost the same score.  Augustana has played all their games close to high quality opponents too, they are good as always, even though the 0-3 record may not show it.

So, I am hoping this shows something for CUC and that they are at the top for winning the NAC.

This next weekend we will probably see though as CUC and Benedictine go at it.  If CUC can get it done there, I don't see why they can't win out and make the playoffs for the first time since......since....Reagan was in office??
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 26, 2011, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on September 25, 2011, 08:58:16 PM
After seeing CUC against Adrian on Saturday, I am more confident CUC may have a chance to run the table this year. 

They came oh so close to beating a quality 4-0 Adrian squad.  Adrian beat Augustana last week by almost the same score.  Augustana has played all their games close to high quality opponents too, they are good as always, even though the 0-3 record may not show it.

So, I am hoping this shows something for CUC and that they are at the top for winning the NAC.

This next weekend we will probably see though as CUC and Benedictine go at it.  If CUC can get it done there, I don't see why they can't win out and make the playoffs for the first time since......since....Reagan was in office??

That was an extremely exciting and competitive game Concordia played at Adrian. I was just amazed how CUC's defense, although overmatched physically, just fought and battled and fought against a very talented and physical Adrian squad. If they would have pulled that one out, it would have to have been one of the most impressive wins Concordia has ever had - an ugly win - but a huge win. (I mean, Koehler was under constant pressure; good thing he's about 230 lbs. because he took some monster hits. Plus, Adrian did put up 450 total yards. But CUC came up with big plays when they needed them and played gritty, tough defense.)

This Saturday's game in River Forest will just be a war. Benedictine has got to feel like a wounded tiger, plus now with the conference season starting, they can look at the game vs. CUC as a "new start" to the season. Concordia will hopefully look at the Adrian game as a validation that their defense can play against high-octane, physical offenses and stand toe-to-toe with the big boys.

The game will probably come down to whoever makes fewer mistakes - big games like this usually do. Hopefully CUC will take the first step towards a conference title which has eluded them in the last two years (both times at the hands of - Benedictine).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 26, 2011, 10:41:02 PM
I wouldn't crown CUC just yet, I'm not convinced Adrian is that great of a team despite beating Augie, Augie is 0-3, Husson is 0-3, and defiance is 0-4, this schedule by Adrian does not impress me! I'm not saying CUC can't win the conference championship, they definitely can and I think AU and CUC are probably the leaders at this point as BU has really looked brutal the last couple of games! That being said it is a new season now and BU has as much fire power as any other offense in the NAC. These next two weeks r huge for BU as they play CUC and then come home to play AU, hopefully we can come out of this stretch 2-0 and make a run for the NAC championship! Good luck to all teams.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on September 28, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
The first week of the NAC race for the championship.

AU@LC- Looks like a big AU win 48-7
MBBC@WLC- WLC runs to win WLC wins 38-16
CUW@RC- CUW a big winner. 42-6
BU@CUC- The Game of the week in the NAC. Home field is going to be the slight difference. Whoever plays the best Defense, Wins. CUC 32-BU31 in OT.

Good luck to everyones team this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: MRedbirds77 on September 29, 2011, 11:34:47 AM
I was looking at the stats and play by play from the Adrian game and CUC didn't seem to play even close to a good game against them. One stat that really impressed me since I thought their secondary was very weak, that Rolf kid who plays safety had 17 tackles and 2 ints, look for him to really start making a name for himself... I think CUC vs BU is the game of the week. With the Cougars at home and I am thinking there is going to be a very big crowd there and a great atmosphere, I say the Cougars finally beat BU. And this is going to stir things up, but I say CUC by 10+ ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 29, 2011, 04:25:39 PM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Aurora
WLC (It'll be tighter than in other years, but it's the Warriors' Homecoming)
CUW
Benedictine in a tight one (hungrier--due to break out of slump)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 29, 2011, 05:55:32 PM
Aurora
WLC
CUW
BU- should be a good game, Can't wait to see how BU responds after consecutive defeats!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 30, 2011, 03:42:43 PM
Quote from: MRedbirds77 on September 29, 2011, 11:34:47 AM
I was looking at the stats and play by play from the Adrian game and CUC didn't seem to play even close to a good game against them. One stat that really impressed me since I thought their secondary was very weak, that Rolf kid who plays safety had 17 tackles and 2 ints, look for him to really start making a name for himself... I think CUC vs BU is the game of the week. With the Cougars at home and I am thinking there is going to be a very big crowd there and a great atmosphere, I say the Cougars finally beat BU. And this is going to stir things up, but I say CUC by 10+ ;D

Yes, Rolf played well, although when your free safety is making 17 tackles, that isn't a good sign. However a number of those tackles were on special teams where he was a demon. 

As far as CUC not playing a good game last Saturday, well, statistically they didn't, but that was because Adrian, their opponents having a total of one win so far notwithstanding, is a pretty stingy outfit. It's going to be a great game (I hope) this Saturday.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on September 30, 2011, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 29, 2011, 04:25:39 PM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Aurora
WLC (It'll be tighter than in other years, but it's the Warriors' Homecoming)
CUW
Benedictine in a tight one (hungrier--due to break out of slump)

I'm not sure that Benedictine will be the hungrier team in RF tomorrow. Keep in mind that CUC was denied the NAC title and a playoff appearance each of the last two seasons because of losses to Benedictine - 15-14 on the last day of the 2009 season and 47-41 in a wild one last year. Don't know who's gonna win this one - it should be a great game - but Concordia will definitely have motivation.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 01, 2011, 10:58:23 AM
Don't forget it's CUC's homecoming too, I hope they can pull one out for the large crowd that will be there.

Should be exciting!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 01, 2011, 05:19:00 PM
Yuck, BU whooped CUC 43-21,

Looks like the homecoming atmosphere didn't do it for them,

BU is definitely the favorite and will most likely represent the NAC in the playoffs....in my opinion of course,  ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on October 01, 2011, 06:27:52 PM
Was at the BU vs CUC game today.... VERY impressed with BU today and their performance.... Defense came to play today, cuc's qb was pressured the whole game and bu forced 7 turnovers. Both corners Taylor and McWilliams had a pick and completely shut down cuc athlethes ...offense was running on all cylinders, led by borsellino's 3 touchdowns and 150+ rushing yds, both recievers Austin and Schultz scored and played well, and the qb Brown was very impressive, his best game all year.... Not disrespect to cuc but they were completely over matched today in all aspects of the game and this game could have easily been worse for cuc if they didn't score on defense and bu scored twice more when they were inside the 10


Can't wait to see the BU vs AU match up next week for BU homecoming
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 02, 2011, 12:11:34 PM
Well said Zeus, I don't know what got into the BU football team, but that was an entirely different team out there!! Hopefully the team i saw play against NPU and KZOO are gone and are never seen or heard from ever again!! What an impressive performance by BU yesterday, the defense flew around and made plays, the DLINE pressured the QB all day long and the DBS blanketed receivers!! The BU defense only gave up 14 points, Concordia had a pick 6 in the game and to give up only 14 points to the athletes Concordia has is pretty impressive.  I don't think anyone else in the conference has the athletes that Concordia has, I know other teams are going to bring other things to the table, but i don't think anyone else in the conference has the speed that Concordia has.  Speaking of speed, if anyone was at the game, did you see #1 Borsellino blow by everyone in Concordia's secondary on his 67 yd TD run?? Once he hit that sideline he was GONE!!! Another kid i was very impressed with was # 81 Schultz, that kid has some great hands and great playmaking ability, he also had a huge game! 

Now, onto the next one, which is a HUGE rivalry game between AU and BU on BU's homecoming.  I expect a big crowd at the Sports Complex in Lisle and I know AU is going to come out HUNGRY after the tough loss they suffered against Lakeland.  Stay hungry BU we have a long way to go!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 03, 2011, 05:04:35 PM
Total congrats to Benedictine. They came out Saturday after playing two lackluster games in the previous weeks, played smashmouth football, and just took the game to CUC.

Now I have always been of the opinion that you just don't make turnovers and penalties out of the blue - your opponent usually forces them. But darn it if CUC doesn't need to do something to get a control over the turnovers and penalties. To wit:
1) Dropped screen pass the play after a BU punt after CUC had taken an early lead that looked as though may go for big yards but instead goes into the arms of a BU player deep in CUC territory.
2) Fumbled snap the punter tried to drop-kick out of the endzone but is instead called for a safety (although my 1938-playing dad would have been proud)
3) Fumble by Koehler early in the second half at the BU 15 after running for what would have been a first down.
4) Personal foul at the BU 17 which turned a 2nd and 10 into a 2nd and 25. Drive killer.
5) Holding penalty right after CUC recovers an onside kick. Another drive-killer. (CUC has GOT to cut out the penalties. Four late-hit 15-yarders are gifts they can't afford to give a team like BU, plus other assorted holding penalties - when your margin of error is slim, you can't give away that many yards.)
6)  Total of 5 interceptions, most forced by getting lots of pressure on Koehler - the same issue that CUC had with Adrian. The new O-line guys are playing hard, but now they are playing four new linemen from last year and it's showing in their running game and pass protection versus decent defenses.

CUC's defense had a hard time dealing with the size of BU's line, and Borselino & Co. took advantage. It didn't help that CUC's defense was on the field an awful lot in the first half - the two consecutive big plays BU scored on in the second half to salt the game away seemed at the expense of a warn out defense - both physically and mentally. And Brown is a VERY accurate passer - impressive passing and some highlight catches by the tall SE - Schultz I believe. I realize that CUC's Koehler was not as accurate, but a few of his passes which would have been  "difficult catches" need to be caught.  A big possession TE or checkdown receiver would certainly be helpful.

I don't know what to say about this conference. The non-conference results were not pretty, but it is what it is.

Hopefully CUC can right the ship in the coming weeks. The offense is still breaking in all its skill position guys and the line is learning on-the-fly, so hopefully they can return to the form they showed against Chicago. However, I can't see anyone in the conference taking out BU at this point, but you never know. Good luck to everyone this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 06, 2011, 02:14:52 PM
Two big suprizes last week. The margin of victory by BU and AU's lost.

Games this week to Guess;
CUW@MBBC- This will be ugly if you are a MBBC fan, CUW wins 52-0. This may be the team to challenge BU, The stats look like they have a very good Defense.

LC@RC- Should be a close game,RC is scoring more points this year and the LC defense has given up alot of points/ LC wins 20-19.

CUC@WLC- Both teams can throw based on last week stats and CUC will be hungry and wins 38-31

AU@BU- A real grudge game for the game of the week. AU has to bounce back from last weeks mistake to stay in the running.  AU wins 28-24 in OT

Good Luck to everyone's team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 06, 2011, 10:22:10 PM
CUW
LC
CUC
I think BU wins this game if, and only if they come out hungry.  If they play like they played last week, it will be a happy Homecoming, but If BU plays complacent they will get their nose pushed in! Stay Hungry BU! BU Wins!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 07, 2011, 06:14:47 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

CUW
Rockford
CUC  (Warriors need to play a full 60 minutes, could be a "trap" game for them if they're still thinking about the win over   Maranatha-it'll be a tight one, but I'm putting my head above my heart on this one.)

Benedictine in a tight one
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 07, 2011, 12:03:32 PM
My picks:

CUW 52-7 over MBBC
BU 27-16 over Aurora
LU 23-13 over Rockford
CUC 32-27 over WLC, but I've got a bad feeling about this. I'm afraid that CUC's mistakes and difficulties scoring the last two weeks are not just a hiccup vs. good teams but may be a season long issue. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on October 07, 2011, 03:59:13 PM
CUW vs MBBC.... wins big
LU vs Rockford...... Rockford meets a team coming off a huge win
CUC vs WLC.... Too many offensive weapons for WLC to handle, CUC in a good game

~Game of the Week~
BU vs AU.... This has the making of being an excellent game, AU meets a team coming off a dominating performance and doesn't have enough to stop Borsellino and CO. Ill take BU in a close one! Also BU's homecoming, should be fun...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 10, 2011, 08:51:26 AM
Well, the first half, BU played complacent!! The 2nd half, a completely different story... After the first drive of the 2nd half it seemed like the BU Defense finally woke up and started playing Football and they held AU scoreless for the rest of the game.  The offense, whom didn't have the ball much in the first half, finally got their chances in the 2nd half and took advantage of it scoring 26 points in the 2nd half!! Borsellino and Austin took over the game and have BU one game closer to the NAC Championship! However, no time to rest BU as you have CUW coming up next, what a tough stretch for BU, CIRF, AU and then CUW! If you pull out a win out at CUW, you are truly in the drivers set to repeat! No time to rest BU!! Predictions coming later in the week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 13, 2011, 03:19:13 PM
Certainly surprised watching the AU game last week. IMHO they let the last two games get awqy from them. Congrats to BU for taking it.

Games this week for guessing;

MBBC@AU- This will be ugly AU wins 51-6

WLC@LC- WLC has to much offense for LC- WLC wins 35-18

RC@CUC- CUC beats them up 45-18

GAME of the week;
BU@CUW- This will be a Great Game. BU has had their number for a few yeats but this could be the CUW break out year, Looks like CUW is starting a Frosh QB. This could be the BU edge with their great D-line. CUW wins in OT 34-31.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 14, 2011, 06:22:17 AM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

Aurora
WLC     (Methinks it'll be a bit closer than old 40's projected score)
CUC
Benedictine
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on October 14, 2011, 05:08:51 PM
Games this week;

MBBC@AU- AU wins big coming off 2 conf. losses....

WLC@LC- I like LC in this game, could be a close one!

RC@CUC- CUC rolls the regents!!!

GAME of the week;
BU@CUW- BU came out very flat last week and it nearly hurt their conference hunt! If they do that this week @ CUW they could be in trouble. That being said if they come out and play their game from start to finish.... look out falcons... they have way to many weapons on offense to get stopped, the way Borsellino, Brown and Austin  (of course with help from the offense line) took the game over last week was awesome to watch.... Im going to say BU stays hungry and comes ready to play....BU wins this one and continues the quest for a repeat!!!!

Good luck to all teams this week and most important stay healthy!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 15, 2011, 08:21:47 AM
MBBC@AU- AU wins big

WLC@LC- I like LC in this game, I think it will be a close game mainly bc LC is such a hard place to play at and their defense seems to be pretty strong.

RC@CUC- CUC rolls the regents!!!

GAME OF THE WEEK
BU@CUW I'm going to take BU in a tight one, they need to come out and play fast, especially on the defensive side of the ball! If BU can force some three and outs early and give their offense more time to settle in they can really take it to CUW! Another great challenge for BU! Go Eagles!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 19, 2011, 06:21:37 PM
I'd like to hear some details about the BU-CUW game besides from what I got from the schools' websites. It sounds like it was Big-play Bennie in this one, but CUW made it close at the end. Did it seem like the game was in doubt for much of the game or was BU in control the whole way?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 19, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
BU wasn control the whole game it should've been a 20-0 ball game! But to CUWs credit they didn't give up an kept playing hard and scored two scores at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 20, 2011, 11:22:56 AM
This weeks guesses

BU@MBBC- No Game here BU wins 46-7. They are getting ready for the playoffs.

CUC@LC- Stats say CUC throws the ball all over and wins 36-34.

WLC@RC- This will not be close. WLC wins 28-14.

AU@CUW- Both teams need this win. The team who can control the clock wins. AU comes back and wins 24-21OT.

Good Luck to everyones team.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 20, 2011, 03:45:42 PM
My guesses:

Benedictine
CUC
WLC
CUW  (giving the home squad the nod)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 20, 2011, 07:01:41 PM
I'm taking,

BU
WLC
AU wins in a low scoring game.

Game of the week is LC Vs. CUC, I said it before that LC is a hard place to play at, so I think this game may be a close one! I think if it was played elsewhere CUC would beat them handily, but since it is a home game for them I think they will hang with CUC, but lose a close one! CUC wins.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 20, 2011, 09:08:37 PM
My guesses:
Benedictine
Wisconsin Lutheran
Concordia Chicago in a very tight game.
Concordia Wisconsin - I think that Concordia's defense vs. Benedictine showed they are pretty stout on that side of the ball, plus I'm not sure about Aurora's offense anyway. CUW in a low scoring game.
Good health to everybody this weekend.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on October 21, 2011, 07:37:35 PM
My guesses:

BU@MBBC- BU one step closer to the playoffs

CUC@LC- CUC wins by more than everyone thinks, too many athletes!

WLC@RC- WLC wins big...

AU@CUW- ~GAME OF THE WEEK~
After seeing both of these teams play against BU, I feel like AU is the better team.... One positive for CUW is they are at home... I say AU wins in a tight one
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 22, 2011, 02:31:44 PM
Early 2nd quarter - Lakeland-7 CUC-0      CUC with two fumbles and an interception already.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 22, 2011, 03:11:34 PM
Halftime at Lakeland: CUC - 14; Lakeland - 7
Concordia has four turnovers, but their defense has been pretty tough otherwise.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 22, 2011, 03:42:44 PM
BU wins 41-7, not a great game from the BU offense. Sloppy game!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 22, 2011, 03:47:43 PM
Keep updates coming please RF!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 22, 2011, 04:22:12 PM
Sorry. Lakeland's livestats quit at about the 10:00 minute mark of the 3rd quarter with the score still 14-7 CUC. I'll update if livestats gets going again.

It was 20-7 CUW over Aurora at the beginning of the 4th. Aurora's QB went down (again - they're down to their 4th QB of the season) and now has their punter in at QB.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 22, 2011, 04:30:03 PM
Okay, the livestats basically quit for the remainder of the third quarter but picked back up for the 4th. CUC pushed in a TD with about 3:00 to go in the game and lead 21-7.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 22, 2011, 06:29:09 PM
CIRF won 21-7 over LC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on October 26, 2011, 08:02:43 PM
Guesses for this week.

MBBC@CUC- This will be one sided. CUC wins56-14

LC@BU- BU has the rings picked out. Borselino runs wild, BU wins 39-14

RC@AU- I hope AU gets a QB back (Hopefully no more injuries). AU still has a tough D- AU wins24-17

Game of the week- CUW@WLC- The stats say WLC is a scoring and Offensive machine but CUW has the D- CUW wins a close one 24-21 in OT

Good Luck to everyones team this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 27, 2011, 05:57:19 PM
WLCALUM83's guesses:

CUC
Benedictine
Rockford
CUW
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on October 27, 2011, 06:27:46 PM
My guesses for this week:

MBBC@CUC- CUC wins this game in a blow out

LC@BU- BU has the conference championship in sight, coaches have them ready to play and Borsellino (2nd in the NATION in all purpose yards) and CO. go off to move one game closer to clinching!

RC@AU- AU wins this game, but with who at QB? Maybe closer game because of it.

CUW@WLC- I like WLC in this game, home team gets the edge in a close one.

Good Luck to everyones team this week, and no injuries!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 28, 2011, 11:20:13 AM
My picks:
MBBC@CUC - CUC by 35. How many players see action? I hope a lot of them.
LC@BU - BU marches on toward their conference championship. BU by 20 (LC defense is decent, but too much BU big play) The question for BU is this: They don't have many (any) challenging games in the regular season left. How much action do their starters see in the next few weeks so that they can go into their playoff game (probably against NCC, UWW, or somesuch power) rested and healthy?
RC@AU - AU by 17. But I agree with Zeus. Who's the QB?
CUW@WLC - I've been impressed by CUW's defense. CUW by 13.

Good health to all.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 28, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
MBBC @ CUC: Blowout, CUC stays in the hunt for the NAC!

LC @ BU: Big game for BU, if they win this game they are indeed in the drivers seat to repeat! This game does worry me as BU always seems to take a quarter or two to slow down LC's defense, BU's defense has been getting better and better every week and I expect BU to win this game.

RC @ AU: The injury bug has really hurt AU this year, however their defense is still solid and I don't think Rockford will be able to move the ball on them.  AU wins easy...

CUW @ WLC: I think CUW takes it to the Warriors!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 29, 2011, 09:36:09 AM
BU opened the newly renovated rice center, I spoke to a few people who had gone through it and they said it absolutely blew them away! They are very impressed with the dedication that the BU administrative staff has shown to better BU's athletic programs. I was told that it is a, "Division 1 caliber facility!"  I'm hoping I can get out there soon, if anyone has any observations about the new rice center, please share! Zeus51 have you been there?

P.S. If anyone is interested in seeing a sneak peak of the new rice center, you can "like" Benedictine Eagle Athletics, and there is a very short video of the project.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 29, 2011, 04:53:32 PM
BU wins 28-19
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 30, 2011, 10:42:49 AM
I would definitely consider WLC over CUW an upset, was anyone at the game? What is the story with WLC, are they better then their record shows or was this just a rivalry game and they were amped up to play?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 31, 2011, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on October 30, 2011, 10:42:49 AM
I would definitely consider WLC over CUW an upset, was anyone at the game? What is the story with WLC, are they better then their record shows or was this just a rivalry game and they were amped up to play?

Caught the tail end of the game, and from what I heard, the Warriors got a big lead and then withstood a late Falcon rally to get the win. More than likely they were amped because this was the annual "Luther Cup" game. As far as being better than their record, they had CUC on the ropes late before losing. The WLC announcers indicated last Saturday's game was the most consistent the Warriors had played all year (Falcons' last ditch rally not-withstanding).

This poster would be more than happy if they managed to somehow win out (not expecting that, however.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 31, 2011, 09:36:20 AM
I was certainly surprised that WLC put up 35 on CUW as it seemed that CUW was holding down conference opponents' scoring.. WLC must have put it all together on Saturday. As for this week, I'm curious as to what CUC will do with CUW's defense. (They're going to have to do better than five turnovers and 150 yards worth of penalties.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 31, 2011, 11:52:05 AM
Thanks for the input RF, congrats to the cougars on another win! CUW is pretty tough defensively, but I don't think they will be able to match up athletically with the CIRF receivers, especially the slot wide receivers on their linebackers. CUW has good linebackers, but they are more run-stoppers then they are cover guys.  BU was up on them 20-0 before they decided to let down and give up 14 points with about 7 minutes to go in the game. Good luck to this weekend.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 01, 2011, 11:35:35 AM
Im sorry, WLC, thanks for the update! Congrats on the Warriors win!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Sporty0917 on November 01, 2011, 11:41:27 PM
Benedictine has def. proven that they are the best team out there and I can't wait to see them put it all together for a full 4 quarters. The offense has started out great and kind of leveled off but they know how to score when they really need to and as for the defense, the had me worried at first but are in my eyes the best in the conference now. They just need to play all 4 quarters and stop letting up in the 4th. They will have the same success next year I believe also with Johnny(#2 in the nation for all purpose yrds.) and Shultz coming back at WR. defensivly they have Lockton (1st in nation TFL and also ranked in tackles and sacks) Alteri, and Buonavolanto all there of these eagles play a key role in the defense fighting for the most tackles in every game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 02, 2011, 09:59:19 AM
Welcome to the board sporty, great to have another BU follower on here! I think you hit the nail right on the head, when this team puts 4 quarters together they are a very very good team, the best game they played this year was at CIRF, but even that game they were sloppy at times. I would love to see them put two complete games together to end the year!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 03, 2011, 09:21:57 AM
WLCALUM83's 11/5 guesses:

Lakeland
CUC
Benedictine
Aurora
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 03, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
Guesses for the week

MBBC@LC- LC wins but could be closer than it should LC 28-21

BU@RC- BU clinces a playoff spot. BU38-18

"Games of the week"
AU@WLC- If AU is to win the D must do it (Contanin the running backs and keep alot of pressure on the QB) and the O can't make turnovers. AU wins 28-27

CUW@CUC- This should be a Great one, I plan on going. CUW is coming on strong and will give the cougars everything they have.  CUC wins a tight one 36-31.

Good Luck to everyones team and safe travels.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 03, 2011, 12:25:21 PM
LC wins big!

BU beats up Rockford, BU has to much to lose by not playing their best game of the year!

I'm going to take WLC in a tight one, AU's D will keep them in the game, but AU's O has really struggled since they lost their QB.

I think CUC beats CUW, although i can see CUW pull of an upset.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Sporty0917 on November 03, 2011, 02:51:16 PM
Maranantha -lakeland .. Lakeland in a blow out there coming of 2 losses and are craving another w 49-0
Bu-rock ... Bu wins but still doesnt play to their full potential 37-14
Au-wlc ... aurora squezes by a close one 24-21
Cuw-cuc ... extremely close game may see an overtime or two but cuc comes out on top 14-21
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on November 03, 2011, 05:53:23 PM
Guesses for the week

MBBC@LC- LC wins this one

BU@RC- Playoff bound BU beats up Rockford

AU@WLC- Ill take WLC, they are at home and playing which AU quarterback? Who Knows?

CUW@CUC- Should be a good game, but not as close as everyone thinks, LUC pulls away

Good Luck to everyones team and safe travels.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 04, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
My picks for this week:
Maranatha @ Lakeland - Lakeland just too strong on defense - and offense.
Aurora @ Wisconsin Lutheran - Wisconsin Lutheran. I think that they have lost about three games against some good teams which they could have won.
Benedictine @ Rockford - I'm not sure Benedictine has played a complete game against anyone except maybe CUC. :'( Unfortunately for Rockford, Bennie puts it together this week.

And finally:
CUW @ CUC - Here goes the diatribe - or something:

For the longest time CUW had a run of the conferences (new and old) and just ruled CUC in the process. They had better athletes, better coaching, and, uh, better athletes.
In the last two years they seemed to have slid somewhat. Now I can't believe that their athletes are worse than in the past (although they don't seem to have the recruiting pipeline from the western states that they used to have many years ago). From what I've heard their coach knows the game. Is the conference that much better? Is this a blip on the radar for them? Have they had key injuries the past two years? I'm just curious. They have a great campus and I think have good university leadership. If anyone can tell me about CUW athletics in general and CUW football in particular, I'd like to know. (PM me if you'd like.)

Having said that: CUC's penalties and turnovers cost them big time. CUW (There - I hope I jinxed them with that pick.) ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 05, 2011, 05:15:33 PM
Holy smokes. Benedictine survives Rockford - 33-28. Rockford scored in the 4th and then Bennie fumbled on the next play. Rockford drove down to the Benedictine 17 before turning the ball over on downs. Benedictine ran out the clock from there. Benedictine wins the NAC AQ.

CUC gets two long pick-sixes and beats CUW - 31-14. This assures CUC of at least a second place tie in the conference. They can still tie for the conference championship with a win vs. Aurora and a Benedictine loss to Wisconsin Lutheran.

Lakeland handles Maranatha - 33-7.

Wisconsin Lutheran took out Aurora.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 05, 2011, 09:18:43 PM
Very ugly game from BU (5 Turnovers from the offense), this is what happens when you under estimate an opponent, on the flip side we already have a share of the title and can win outright with a win next week! I hope BU can put a complete game together against WLC and take that momentum into the playoffs!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 06, 2011, 01:58:07 AM
CUW needs to start new with the coaching staff.  I am sick of this.  They went from cracking the top 25 to can't hang with this conference.  There are entire classes that didn't have 7 or 8 losses in a career.  Now, you can expect to have that in one season.  Gorgeous campus, nice job taking a crap on it.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 06, 2011, 04:08:11 PM
Sotha Sil,

This is the first i'm hearing anyone talk about the CUW coaching staff... It seems like they bring in a nice number of kids every year, is this coaching staff just looking for quantity and not quality?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 06, 2011, 04:20:35 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on November 05, 2011, 09:18:43 PM
Very ugly game from BU (5 Turnovers from the offense), this is what happens when you under estimate an opponent, on the flip side we already have a share of the title and can win outright with a win next week! I hope BU can put a complete game together against WLC and take that momentum into the playoffs!

Yeah, five turnovers will put a crimp on any team's game, no matter who they're playing. Adrian (in the MIAA) was looking at an undefeated season and the AQ from their conference and then turned the ball over five times in a loss two weekends ago. Here's hoping that BU can turn it around and have a good showing in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 08, 2011, 11:33:22 AM
There is a great article about the BenU Rice center at benueagles.com, Check it out...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 08, 2011, 12:50:11 PM
Congrats to the week 9 NAC players of the week,

Borsellino, scored four touchdowns (3 rushing, 1 receiving) to help Benedictine (7-2, 6-0 NAC) snag at least a share of the conference title and its second consecutive berth in the NCAA III playoffs in a 33-28 win at Rockford. The junior running back ran for 188 yards on 31 carries in the victory.

Gray provided quality over quantity in Saturday's win over Concordia Wisconsin, as two of his four tackles went for minus-yards including CUC's only sack of the day. The rookie linebacker's first quarter fumble recovery in CUW territory led to the go-ahead score for the Cougars. Gray later took an interception 86 yards for a score to give CUC (6-2, 5-1) a 24-14 lead in the fourth quarter.

Lawry had a career game kicking the ball as he connected on all four extra points as well as a 25-yard field goal for the Muskies (4-5, 4-2) in their 33-7 victory over Maranatha.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 08, 2011, 03:18:24 PM
Congrats to BU on the repeat for the championship. Should be 2 years undefeated and a 3 peat is not out of the question as long as you have #1-Borsellino.

I look forward to seeing CUC this week against AU. They have had another really good year and will be very good again next year as the stats show.

Any guesses by BU fans on where you will go? Whitewater? Mt. Union? Monmouth or NCC? Good Luck whoever the opponent is.

Sotha Sil-
I am surprised by your message on CUW. I was at the AU game and they looked really good. IMHO I thought they may of won the whole thing after the AU game. Their D is really good and they can move the ball. You follow them more closely and most likely have seen them play multiple times, but that was my opinion after one game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 08, 2011, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: old 40 on November 08, 2011, 03:18:24 PM
Congrats to BU on the repeat for the championship. Should be 2 years undefeated and a 3 peat is not out of the question as long as you have #1-Borsellino.

That guy's only a junior? Oh brother. It seems as though he's been around for at least four.
It reminds me of a guy from  Northeastern Illinois University back in the 70's -  running back named Gloppe I believe. He played for NEIU for a couple years when they were a club team, and then when they had a varsity team I swear he played for four more years.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2011, 07:59:58 PM
That sounds legal. :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 09, 2011, 09:34:14 AM
RF, yes he is only a JR, he attended BU as a Frosh, then transferred to Illinois State University where he was ineligible for the year, he ended up not liking it out there and transferred back to BU, so technically last yr was his sophomore yr, this yr is his junior yr and obviously next yr will be his last... All of us BU fans r excited to have him for one more yr!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 09, 2011, 09:42:50 AM
Old40, some of us r trying to figure it out, I'm thinking one of the purple powers or Wabash...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 10, 2011, 02:11:06 PM
It is hard to beleive that this is the last week of the season. It went fast and AU was not in the mix. Like the Cubs, wait to next year.

RC@MBBC- Someone has to win, RC played BU hard and will win this one. RC28-MBBC21

LC@CUW- CUW is playing well especially on O, in conference they have scored alot thru the air.  CUW wins 31-12.

Game of the Week
WLC@BU- BU has to play better this week or they will lose. WLC is a dangerous club. BU wins 24-21

CUC@AU- AU's D has to score points and hold this potent O. CUC wins 28-13.

Good Luck to everyones team. Safe travels.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 10, 2011, 04:02:39 PM
WLCALUM83's guesses for the regular season finales:

Rockford
CUW

Benedictine  (Question;  Knowing you've already clinched, if you're the Eagles, do you rest the starters after a series or two, or do you leave the regulars in most of the game--if it isn't a blowout?)  Eagles have had WLC's number. (coming from behind on them in 2 of the previous games--)

CUC


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 10, 2011, 09:36:34 PM
RC @ MBBC- I am going to take Maranatha solely bc they are the home team...

LC @ CUW- Ummmm CUW, this is a tough one to call, both teams hit their stretch of good play and have since tapered off...

WLC @ BU- To answer WLC's question, BU's starters will be on the field... They played absolutely brutal last week and if they play like that this week they will get smacked around.  BU needs to put a complete game together to end the year and go into the playoffs strong! That being said I think BU comes out strong and beats WLC... Lets go BU play FOUR quarters and play your best game Saturday!

CUC @ AU- CUC, I think this could get ugly due to AU's defense having to be on the field to often.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 11, 2011, 11:06:36 AM
Picks for the regular season finale:
RC over MBBC - If Rockford could play Benedictine so close, they get the nod here.

Lakeland over CUW - This is a tough pick. I think Lakeland's defense is too stingy and CUW is playing a freshman QB who shows promise, but is still a freshman.

CUC over Aurora - I'm not sure Aurora's QB situation, but CUC is playing for a possible first place tie.

UPSET ALERT - Wisconsin Lutheran over Benedictine. Benedictine seems that they are letting too many teams hang around (except for CUC, of course  :'(), and WLC is a pretty tough outfit.
I do think that Benedictine will play better than last week, but WLC prevails. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 12, 2011, 04:46:46 PM
Final from Lisle, IL

WLC 23, Benedictine 21  (Whew!)

The Warriors hang on, despite 4 interceptions, a missed extra point and a fumble late in the game. Even though WLC's ground game came up big and Borsellino was held in check, the Warriors barely get out of there with a win-- first time we've ever beaten Benedictine on the gridiron--   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 12, 2011, 07:38:34 PM
I kind of saw this one coming, a very upsetting loss going into the playoffs... BU just does not have the vertical passing game that they had a year ago! More and More teams stack the box the last few games to take Borsellino out of the game and BU has not been able to make those teams pay for doing that... If a team has 8 guys in the box, more then likely your getting man coverage on the outsides and as an offensive coaching staff you need to take advantage of those situations... That is the difference between this years team and last years team, Earl was able to stand in the pocket and deliver in those situations and i just don't think Brown can... Very upsetting, but hey we are in the playoffs and you just never know what can happen...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 12, 2011, 10:31:21 PM
Had CUC not come from behind late on the Warriors earlier--

Truth to tell, this poster wasn't expecting WLC to beat CUW and Aurora either, (--was a bit disappointed after the Lakeland loss), still, to finish up the conference play winning 4 games in a row--I'll take that any day of the weeki.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 13, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
Its been a looooong time since Ive written on this board, but as a former Cougar player through those two 0-10 seasons of '04 and '05 and to be a part of Coach Pries' first two years as a player, I am very very proud of them in being co-conference champs!

Keep it up guys. I say Cougars, you say...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: rscl70 on November 14, 2011, 11:49:39 AM
Congratulations BU; and Welcome to the Machine.  See you in Alliance!  :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 14, 2011, 03:21:54 PM
rscl70, Congrats to the purple raiders as well, I'm sure they have a great team this year and we look forward to our visit to Alliance!!!  Us BU followers are pretty new to the playoffs as we have only made it twice in our history, our first appearance coming last year and our second obviously this year... We really look forward to playing a national championship contender, to be the best you gotta play the best and we look forward to the BIG challenge ahead of us!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 14, 2011, 03:51:43 PM
Mount Union......ouch

Well, keep it within 50 and it's a moral victory, so that's something to shoot for.....unfortunately it was the fate of whoever won the NAC.

It will probably be MU vs. Whitewater again, so BU is playing either the national runner up or champion, so that's cool in my opinion.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: UMUplayerdad on November 17, 2011, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 14, 2011, 03:51:43 PM
Mount Union......ouch

Well, keep it within 50 and it's a moral victory, so that's something to shoot for.....unfortunately it was the fate of whoever won the NAC.

It will probably be MU vs. Whitewater again, so BU is playing either the national runner up or champion, so that's cool in my opinion.
Dont be so sure-while a BU win would be an upset-MT has been a trick or treat team offensively this season..Defense has been solid all year, but offense? anywhere from 170 yds total to 600 plus. I would expect the silly penalties and turnovers to be down from this point forward on mt's part tho
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on November 18, 2011, 03:21:02 PM
Just saw the All Conference team on the NAC web site. Congrats to all the players for their hard work and great play. Looks like there are alot of Seniors and Juniors on the 1st and 2nd teams.

Good Luck to all the Seniors.

Maybe AU can bounce back next year but looks like BU, CUC, WLC and CUW will be the teams to beat IMHO. Anyone have any thoughts on this year or next?

Good luck to BU@UMU. Mount will stop Borsellino and force BU to pass. Final 56-3 Mount.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 19, 2011, 02:42:49 PM
MU- 47
BU- 7

Honestly not as bad as I thought it was going to be, we may have to wait a LOONG time until an NAC team wins a playoff game.

But congrats to BU for getting there and seeing what a top team plays like.

Also CUC won their continuation game today against Lake Forest 56 - 28, so they finish 8-2 for the third year in a row.  They are getting consistent, just not winning the big games.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 19, 2011, 06:43:13 PM
okay, I got on here looking to laugh....and i know 47-7 isn't great...but yall put up points and kept it under 50...is BU's back the truth? never seen him play
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 20, 2011, 11:30:25 AM
Sotha Sil, Yes, BU's back is the truth! Mt. Union hasn't given up a run like that all year and he was able to do that... He was also the leading rusher in the game.

Baseman, If not for a pick 6 right before halftime, that ball game is a 20-7 game, with BU getting the ball back... A roughing the punter penalty was called and Mt. got the ball back and ended up scoring... You can't give teams like MT. second chances and BU did on a few drives which Mt. was able to turn into points.

Upsetting loss bc BU did play well, play calling is still suspect over at BU, but this team returns 9 starters on defenses and 8 starters on offense next year... I hope these kids can get bigger, faster and stronger over the offseason and maybe get another NAC championship and another shot at the post-season... THEY HAVE THE TALENT!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on December 06, 2011, 10:32:56 AM
Congrats to John Borsellino and Ben Lockton for making first team all region! Also congratulations to Matt McWilliams and Pat Sterk for making third team all region! Great accomplishment guys!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on December 12, 2011, 07:00:21 PM
John Borsellino of Benedictine was named AFCA All American today, Pretty awesome achievement for John, just the 4th payer in school history to do so!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on February 07, 2012, 06:44:49 PM
Heard some awesome news out of Benedictine... Supposedly, plans are to have a brand new Locker Room facility by the time football season rolls around!! The new facility is suppose to have the whole 9 yards... Wood lockers, a players lounge (complete with flat screens, couches and video game consoles), Offensive/Defensive meeting rooms and also showers and bathrooms. I also heard this facility is exclusively for the football team, all other sports will not be able to use this facility, but are also going to have locker room over-hauls within the next couple of years! I heard this from a reliable source, so this is very exciting news!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 08, 2012, 01:35:44 AM
True -- although, Kickoff 2011 subscribers knew about this in August. Here's a Q&A we did with Jon Cooper:

D3: You guys have had some really nice outdoor facilities the past few years and I know the gymnasium refurb is going on this summer.
JC:
That's going on right now as we speak. The football offices are located in a construction trailer outside the Rice Center because they basically had to rip apart the inside area. The fieldhouse floor was redone two years ago or a year ago in the spring. Now this year is the renovation of the weight room, fitness center and office space, so there's no place for us to go. They moved us all down into a former equipment room. Stuff was falling on our heads from the construction, so they realized that wasn't the best thing in the world. When it's done, it will be done in October, we may finish the season here and then move as soon as the season is done. Next year, new locker rooms.

D3: I have to ask, then, because I've heard nothing but great things about St. Thomas' locker rooms. What were the visitors' locker rooms like there?
JC:
It was really nice, but getting into their locker rooms ... I'll be honest with you, we had two vice presidents make the trip to St. Thomas and they walked through St. Thomas' facility and they said, 'Oh my gosh.' It was the best thing that ever happened, because they came back here and took a look at the plans for the renovation and they revamped them. That's one of the reasons why it's taken so long.

D3: What did you guys get out of that -- what's new in the plans?
JC:
They reconfigured the locker room, with the kind of lockers and the number of lockers to house a larger roster. Also the weight room -- the fitness center was split into two levels to create one that is primarily focused on athletics. And the square footage of the fitness center and weight room was increased. I'm pretty sure that some of the changes were the direct result of what they saw at St. Thomas. We're not getting what St. Thomas has, trust me, but it was a productive trip because you can really see there are haves and have-nots at our level.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on February 08, 2012, 11:27:10 AM
I did get kickoff Pat, completely forgot about that being discussed in your interview with Coach Cooper! I think my excitement is more about the detail that is going to go into this locker room! This will be a division 1 facility!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on February 22, 2012, 04:23:44 PM
BU's 2012 Non-Conf slate looks like Wheaton, North Park, Albion... This is a pretty challenging non-conf schedule, I commend the BU athletics department for putting this schedule together and I think it will benefit the program in the long run. Wheaton is a very challenging opponent, a perennial CCIW powerhouse and Albion is a defending conference champion! I am curious to see how this turns out for BU! Anyone else have any info on the other teams in the conference, who are they playing for the non-conf portion of the season?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: audad2011 on March 01, 2012, 07:32:13 PM
Surprising news at AU!!

http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/sports/10992388-419/walsh-replaces-duncan-as-aurora-university-football-coach.html
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on March 01, 2012, 10:03:03 PM
Wow! Big News from AU. I wonder if the old coach had worn out his welcome. I hope  the master plan is a well thought out strategy. Next season should be interesting. I would not count out the Spartans.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on February 22, 2012, 04:23:44 PM
BU's 2012 Non-Conf slate looks like Wheaton, North Park, Albion... This is a pretty challenging non-conf schedule, I commend the BU athletics department for putting this schedule together and I think it will benefit the program in the long run. Wheaton is a very challenging opponent, a perennial CCIW powerhouse and Albion is a defending conference champion!

What, no thoughts about that third non-con opponent that BU has on the 2012 sked? ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 02, 2012, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on February 22, 2012, 04:23:44 PM
BU's 2012 Non-Conf slate looks like Wheaton, North Park, Albion... This is a pretty challenging non-conf schedule, I commend the BU athletics department for putting this schedule together and I think it will benefit the program in the long run. Wheaton is a very challenging opponent, a perennial CCIW powerhouse and Albion is a defending conference champion!

What, no thoughts about that third non-con opponent that BU has on the 2012 sked? ;)

Trying to bait the enemy? ;) ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 03, 2012, 01:29:06 PM
I do have thoughts about North Park Sager, I have no doubt that they will be a tough opponent for BU next year!  I was just pointing out the accolades that the other two non-conf opponents had achieved over the last year.

BU will be sporting new helmets next year, MATTE BLACK! If you "like" Benedictine Eagle Athletics on facebook you can check out the helmet! The helmet is completely black with a red B that is outlined in white! They came out awesome!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 03, 2012, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 03, 2012, 01:29:06 PM
I do have thoughts about North Park Sager, I have no doubt that they will be a tough opponent for BU next year!  I was just pointing out the accolades that the other two non-conf opponents had achieved over the last year.

BU will be sporting new helmets next year, MATTE BLACK! If you "like" Benedictine Eagle Athletics on facebook you can check out the helmet! The helmet is completely black with a red B that is outlined in white! They came out awesome!
I wish North Central would do something like that.  Or at least go back to the black/red shoe.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 03, 2012, 06:13:51 PM
I am also a fan of the entire team having the same spikes!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 03, 2012, 06:20:22 PM
The team looks better when everyone is the same from top to bottom.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 03, 2012, 09:38:49 PM
Agreed!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 04, 2012, 08:23:47 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 03, 2012, 09:38:49 PM
Agreed!
Does BU take any summer trips? North Central is going to Spain in june. They do this every three years.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 04, 2012, 09:23:11 PM
They don't do it yet, but I know that it is in the works and that they want to do it!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 04, 2012, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 04, 2012, 09:23:11 PM
They don't do it yet, but I know that it is in the works and that they want to do it!
From what I understand, it is a great team bonding experience for those who go. The down side is the cost.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 05, 2012, 10:38:24 AM
I could definitely see that being an experience of a lifetime! I mean, you get to travel to Europe and play football! how long are you out there for, a week?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 05, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 05, 2012, 10:38:24 AM
I could definitely see that being an experience of a lifetime! I mean, you get to travel to Europe and play football! how long are you out there for, a week?
a little longer with the travel. I won't be going, just my son.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 05, 2012, 10:20:26 PM
Very nice, sounds like it will be a great trip for the team... I am assuming NC will be a reloaded squad in 2012? Or did they lose a lot due to graduation? Or does it even matter at this point because they have built such a good program that they just reload every year?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 05, 2012, 11:03:13 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 05, 2012, 10:20:26 PM
Very nice, sounds like it will be a great trip for the team... I am assuming NC will be a reloaded squad in 2012? Or did they lose a lot due to graduation? Or does it even matter at this point because they have built such a good program that they just reload every year?
They lost a lot of linemen, but they rotate quite a bit so they should be okay. The offense will be loaded with all main play makers returning. I'm hoping for a great season. How about your team?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 05, 2012, 11:47:18 PM
BU returns 8 on Offense and 9 on defense, so based on what they have returning they should have another successful year! They do lose their starting QB on O, whom wasn't a difference maker per say, but an adequate QB... They also lose their best WO which I think is a bigger loss then losing the QB!
Defensively they lose both corners, which hurts, but, at the D3 level I believe it is easier to replace the skilled position players, then it is to replace quality linemen and BU does return all of them!  I would love to see another playoff birth this next year for BU, at least those are my hopes for next years team!
Man, I can not wait for football season, these next 5 months can not go by soon enough lol!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 05, 2012, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 05, 2012, 11:47:18 PM
BU returns 8 on Offense and 9 on defense, so based on what they have returning they should have another successful year! They do lose their starting QB on O, whom wasn't a difference maker per say, but an adequate QB... They also lose their best WO which I think is a bigger loss then losing the QB!
Defensively they lose both corners, which hurts, but, at the D3 level I believe it is easier to replace the skilled position players, then it is to replace quality linemen and BU does return all of them!  I would love to see another playoff birth this next year for BU, at least those are my hopes for next years team!
Man, I can not wait for football season, these next 5 months can not go by soon enough lol!

Good God, man - we're in the North!  It is still winter!

Savor spring and summer while you've got 'em! ;D

I understand the sentiment from both football and basketball fans, but good grief! :P 8-)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 06, 2012, 03:43:45 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 05, 2012, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 05, 2012, 11:47:18 PM
BU returns 8 on Offense and 9 on defense, so based on what they have returning they should have another successful year! They do lose their starting QB on O, whom wasn't a difference maker per say, but an adequate QB... They also lose their best WO which I think is a bigger loss then losing the QB!
Defensively they lose both corners, which hurts, but, at the D3 level I believe it is easier to replace the skilled position players, then it is to replace quality linemen and BU does return all of them!  I would love to see another playoff birth this next year for BU, at least those are my hopes for next years team!
Man, I can not wait for football season, these next 5 months can not go by soon enough lol!

Good God, man - we're in the North!  It is still winter!

Savor spring and summer while you've got 'em! ;D

I understand the sentiment from both football and basketball fans, but good grief! :P 8-)
We do savor spring-spring football is right around the corner :) And summer brings Spain Ofor the Cards) and summer camp:). We've got it covered!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 07, 2012, 11:13:53 AM
hahaha good point Mr. Ypsi!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 07, 2012, 01:13:42 PM
But if you love football, the best time of year begins in mid-August ;D ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 08, 2012, 10:30:06 AM
Very true!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 08, 2012, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 08, 2012, 10:30:06 AM
Very true!

d3fan-are you a player, alum, parent or fan?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 08, 2012, 01:01:48 PM
I am an alum and former player of Benedictine and a fan of D3 Football! How about you?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 08, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 08, 2012, 01:01:48 PM
I am an alum and former player of Benedictine and a fan of D3 Football! How about you?

I am a parent of a current North Central football/track athlete and my brother went to IWU.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 08, 2012, 01:36:42 PM
Almost forgot, I had a cousin who went to Benedictine also.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 08, 2012, 03:41:29 PM
Very nice newcardfan, well best of luck to your son on the upcoming season!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 08, 2012, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 08, 2012, 03:41:29 PM
Very nice newcardfan, well best of luck to your son on the upcoming season!
Thanks! He is looking forward to good seaons in both this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 09, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
What position does he play at NC? What events does he run/throw?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 09, 2012, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 09, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
What position does he play at NC? What events does he run/throw?

Check your pm and I will send it to you. Would rather not post his name here---yet ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 09, 2012, 06:40:50 PM
I understand! I read your PM, again, best of luck to your son, seems like he is a great player/athlete!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 09, 2012, 07:33:48 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 09, 2012, 06:40:50 PM
I understand! I read your PM, again, best of luck to your son, seems like he is a great player/athlete!
Sorry I should have explained it better.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 13, 2012, 08:49:45 AM
d3fan1515-
any recruiting news for BU? Just wondering if the new facility updates had more guys on campus.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 13, 2012, 09:46:25 AM
I haven't heard much, but I have heard that there have been a lot of recruits on campus and that they have been pretty impressed! But no, I haven't heard much about commits and such... How about NC?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 13, 2012, 11:04:20 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 13, 2012, 09:46:25 AM
I haven't heard much, but I have heard that there have been a lot of recruits on campus and that they have been pretty impressed! But no, I haven't heard much about commits and such... How about NC?

Not yet, but they should start posting them as soon as financial aid packages have been sent and accepted. I hope NC gets their locker room completed before the start of next season.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 14, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
I read about that on the NC website, did they begin that already?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 14, 2012, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 14, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
I read about that on the NC website, did they begin that already?
They haven't said yet, but I thought they wanted to get the funding for that before they went all out to get funds to help with the Spain trip. And since we just sent them names and addresses of family/friends to hit up ;D, I am hoping they will have the funds for the locker room.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 AM
I see, I'm sure they are doing just fine in recruiting without the locker room lol, but with it, it will give them an even greater edge.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 15, 2012, 10:44:56 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 15, 2012, 09:42:57 AM
I see, I'm sure they are doing just fine in recruiting without the locker room lol, but with it, it will give them an even greater edge.
That is the truth, for now at least. But as you know everything goes in cycles, so we'll see.  ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 16, 2012, 11:16:18 AM
Very true!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 16, 2012, 01:39:03 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 16, 2012, 11:16:18 AM
Very true!

Hey, you never know what will happen down the road. Ten years ago, noone would have seen the North Central emergence on the national scene. That was one of the reasons my son wanted to play football at North Central.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 18, 2012, 11:30:40 AM
Also true, BU is the same way, obviously not on the NC level, but a few years back they were the doormat of the conference and now they have one back to back titles, with a great nucleus of kids coming back! Another conference title would be huge for BU!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 18, 2012, 02:44:52 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 18, 2012, 11:30:40 AM
Also true, BU is the same way, obviously not on the NC level, but a few years back they were the doormat of the conference and now they have one back to back titles, with a great nucleus of kids coming back! Another conference title would be huge for BU!
If you guys win another title you will get more notice from recruits as will see BU as another option to go along with NC and Wheaton in this area.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 19, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
I hope so! we would be in very good company if we can get on that level, NC and Wheaton are the creme of the crop in our area!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 19, 2012, 12:17:22 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 19, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
I hope so! we would be in very good company if we can get on that level, NC and Wheaton are the creme of the crop in our area!
Well, just don't take all the good recruits, we still need to reload every year  ;DHahahahahhaha ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 19, 2012, 12:52:46 PM
hahahahaha!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 19, 2012, 02:32:28 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 19, 2012, 12:52:46 PM
hahahahaha!

Yes, I am the funniest person I know. LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 22, 2012, 12:16:29 PM
Hey d3fan 1515, I just got a postcard for graduate programs at BU. How weird is that? ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 22, 2012, 08:41:40 PM
hahaha, very random...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 22, 2012, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 22, 2012, 08:41:40 PM
hahaha, very random...
Nice advertising for the school.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 26, 2012, 10:59:55 AM
When does spring ball start for the NAC schools? BU starts after spring break!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 26, 2012, 11:35:44 AM
North Central starts in a couple of weeks, plus they get six extra days with pads because of the game in Spain.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Clutch on March 28, 2012, 07:25:18 AM
Benedictine has the blue prints for the new locker room, and man is it beautiful. Looks like an NFL locker room. Equiped with big open lockers, flatscreen TV, Video Game system, Couches and chairs, and ID card access so only football players can get in. The construction begins in April.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 28, 2012, 08:27:42 AM
Quote from: Clutch on March 28, 2012, 07:25:18 AM
Benedictine has the blue prints for the new locker room, and man is it beautiful. Looks like an NFL locker room. Equiped with big open lockers, flatscreen TV, Video Game system, Couches and chairs, and ID card access so only football players can get in. The construction begins in April.

It sounds like a great locker room! Can't wait to see North Central's.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 28, 2012, 08:53:35 AM
BU begins spring drills this Saturday!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 28, 2012, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 28, 2012, 08:53:35 AM
BU begins spring drills this Saturday!
Make sure up post some info!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Clutch on March 28, 2012, 11:45:49 PM
Their schedule is all over the place with morning and night practices on every day of the week. I heard a few otehr teams started practice this week also, I think the Thunder were one of them.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 29, 2012, 06:26:35 AM
Quote from: Clutch on March 28, 2012, 11:45:49 PM
Their schedule is all over the place with morning and night practices on every day of the week. I heard a few otehr teams started practice this week also, I think the Thunder were one of them.
Don't they only get a certain number of practice days in the spring? Do they run a two week spring schedule?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 29, 2012, 08:19:08 AM
Quote from: newcardfan on March 29, 2012, 06:26:35 AM
Quote from: Clutch on March 28, 2012, 11:45:49 PM
Their schedule is all over the place with morning and night practices on every day of the week. I heard a few otehr teams started practice this week also, I think the Thunder were one of them.
Don't they only get a certain number of practice days in the spring? Do they run a two week spring schedule?

North Central starts April 9th, with three practices per week for five weeks. They also get six extra days with pads for the guys going on the Spain trip.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Clutch on March 29, 2012, 09:29:09 AM
No it's over a month just hits every day of the week during that month. It has No pattern
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 29, 2012, 10:00:19 AM
Quote from: Clutch on March 29, 2012, 09:29:09 AM
No it's over a month just hits every day of the week during that month. It has No pattern
Ok, I thought they only get 15 days total. Everytime I drive by BU, something is always going on. How many youth/high school teams use your facilities? I will be there in early May for the ESCC girls track conference meet.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Clutch on March 29, 2012, 10:12:27 AM
Anything that comes through lisle uses it. H's youth football lacrosse Benet academy... But aftershocks summer that changes because urge whole lisle complex will be 100% Benedictines.  But now there building an alumni center then the locker room then a. Went business building and new turf then a new community center and dorm building..  kinda explains why tuition goes up at schools that just like building stuff
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 29, 2012, 10:44:44 AM
Quote from: Clutch on March 29, 2012, 10:12:27 AM
Anything that comes through lisle uses it. H's youth football lacrosse Benet academy... But aftershocks summer that changes because urge whole lisle complex will be 100% Benedictines.  But now there building an alumni center then the locker room then a. Went business building and new turf then a new community center and dorm building..  kinda explains why tuition goes up at schools that just like building stuff
So the community uses it for free or do you charge a fee? Tuition always goes up-unfortunately.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on March 29, 2012, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: newcardfan on March 29, 2012, 10:44:44 AM
Quote from: Clutch on March 29, 2012, 10:12:27 AM
Anything that comes through lisle uses it. H's youth football lacrosse Benet academy... But aftershocks summer that changes because urge whole lisle complex will be 100% Benedictines.  But now there building an alumni center then the locker room then a. Went business building and new turf then a new community center and dorm building..  kinda explains why tuition goes up at schools that just like building stuff
So the community uses it for free or do you charge a fee? Tuition always goes up-unfortunately.
Quote from: Clutch on March 29, 2012, 10:12:27 AM
Anything that comes through lisle uses it. H's youth football lacrosse Benet academy... But aftershocks summer that changes because urge whole lisle complex will be 100% Benedictines.  But now there building an alumni center then the locker room then a. Went business building and new turf then a new community center and dorm building..  kinda explains why tuition goes up at schools that just like building stuff

Clutch:

You have to look at the underlying issues.  In today's society, the small colleges and universities have to update existing facilities and add new ones to compete for student enrollment.  No one likes that old cliche..."keeping up with the Jones's", however, that is simply the reality in this era - not just to do so for the sake of it, but rather because of necessity.  Obviously, it is difficult to attract student-athletes to a small college if that college has stadiums, arenas, practice fields, theatres, music buildings, etc., etc., that are terribly outdated when their potential student-athelete recruits' high schools have state-of-the-art facilities that put those old college buildings to shame.  I am all for keeping historic buildings on college campuses, however, we're talking about athletic facilities here and while some historic portions of some stadiums can and are incorporated into the new stadiums and/or renovations, at the same time, the newest and best versions of the materials need to be used.  Otherwise, these small colleges and universities are going to have an extremely difficult time keeping their necessary and target enrollments.

A perfect example of this is Adrian College in our MIAA.  About 7-8 years ago, their enrollment fell well below 1,000, which hadn't happened in probably near 40 years or more.  In addition, their athletic facilities were woefully outdated, with the exception of their more recent basketball and volleyball arena and athletic center (which was funded in a large part by a famous kitchen cabinate major company that has it's corporate offices and plants in Adrian), and the football stadium, which was actually the high school's stadium, although that one was a nice "small college" atmosphere stadium - only problem with the latter, was it is located off-campus across town.  At any rate, by building a new state-of-the-art on-campus football/lacrosse stadium, new baseball and softball stadiums, practice fields, etc., etc., and adding varsity men's and women's ice hockey and lacrosse as well as two "virtual varsity" club collegiate ice hockey teams, they bolstered enrollment to their desired current target of 1,500.  As far as the funding, it didn't hurt that alumni donated the 2 million plus for the on-campus ice hockey facilitiy, so no debt, and that is also rented out to the public for ice skating time, which brings in some income and...in regards to the latter, our friend newcardfan brings up a good question concerning that.

As to tuition "hikes", admittedly, I do not know how that may currently be affected at BU as you are suggesting.  However, I will say that not all tuition increases can be attributed to new building projects and upgrading athletic facilities.  The majority of fundraising for those come from endowments, campaign fundraising including alumni donations and major corporate grants/donations, lead gifts, etc., thereby affecting tuition increases indirectly, little if any.  There are many other factors that are the basic cause of tuition increases, the economic conditions and including some of the misguided economic policies of the government,etc. etc.

Anyway, it is good that BU has improved their physical plant facilities, although I am not sure i.e. I obviously do not know the exact details as to whether or not that has had any direct effect for any tuition increases at that school. However, that is not the case in many other situations at other institutions.  Again, other aspects are responsible for that; some legit, some not. ;)
 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 29, 2012, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on March 29, 2012, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: newcardfan on March 29, 2012, 10:44:44 AM
Quote from: Clutch on March 29, 2012, 10:12:27 AM
Anything that comes through lisle uses it. H's youth football lacrosse Benet academy... But aftershocks summer that changes because urge whole lisle complex will be 100% Benedictines.  But now there building an alumni center then the locker room then a. Went business building and new turf then a new community center and dorm building..  kinda explains why tuition goes up at schools that just like building stuff
So the community uses it for free or do you charge a fee? Tuition always goes up-unfortunately.
Quote from: Clutch on March 29, 2012, 10:12:27 AM
Anything that comes through lisle uses it. H's youth football lacrosse Benet academy... But aftershocks summer that changes because urge whole lisle complex will be 100% Benedictines.  But now there building an alumni center then the locker room then a. Went business building and new turf then a new community center and dorm building..  kinda explains why tuition goes up at schools that just like building stuff

Clutch:

You have to look at the underlying issues.  In today's society, the small colleges and universities have to update existing facilities and add new ones to compete for student enrollment.  No one likes that old cliche..."keeping up with the Jones's", however, that is simply the reality in this era - not just to do so for the sake of it, but rather because of necessity.  Obviously, it is difficult to attract student-athletes to a small college if that college has stadiums, arenas, practice fields, theatres, music buildings, etc., etc., that are terribly outdated when their potential student-athelete recruits' high schools have state-of-the-art facilities that put those old college buildings to shame.  I am all for keeping historic buildings on college campuses, however, we're talking about athletic facilities here and while some historic portions of some stadiums can and are incorporated into the new stadiums and/or renovations, at the same time, the newest and best versions of the materials need to be used.  Otherwise, these small colleges and universities are going to have an extremely difficult time keeping their necessary and target enrollments.

A perfect example of this is Adrian College in our MIAA.  About 7-8 years ago, their enrollment fell well below 1,000, which hadn't happened in probably near 40 years or more.  In addition, their athletic facilities were woefully outdated, with the exception of their more recent basketball and volleyball arena and athletic center (which was funded in a large part by a famous kitchen cabinate major company that has it's corporate offices and plants in Adrian), and the football stadium, which was actually the high school's stadium, although that one was a nice "small college" atmosphere stadium - only problem with the latter, was it is located off-campus across town.  At any rate, by building a new state-of-the-art on-campus football/lacrosse stadium, new baseball and softball stadiums, practice fields, etc., etc., and adding varsity men's and women's ice hockey and lacrosse as well as two "virtual varsity" club collegiate ice hockey teams, they bolstered enrollment to their desired current target of 1,500.  As far as the funding, it didn't hurt that alumni donated the 2 million plus for the on-campus ice hockey facilitiy, so no debt, and that is also rented out to the public for ice skating time, which brings in some income and...in regards to the latter, our friend newcardfan brings up a good question concerning that.

As to tuition "hikes", admittedly, I do not know how that may currently be affected at BU as you are suggesting.  However, I will say that not all tuition increases can be attributed to new building projects and upgrading athletic facilities.  The majority of fundraising for those come from endowments, campaign fundraising including alumni donations and major corporate grants/donations, lead gifts, etc., thereby affecting tuition increases indirectly, little if any.  There are many other factors that are the basic cause of tuition increases, the economic conditions and including some of the misguided economic policies of the government,etc. etc.

Anyway, it is good that BU has improved their physical plant facilities, although I am not sure i.e. I obviously do not know the exact details as to whether or not that has had any direct effect for any tuition increases at that school. However, that is not the case in many other situations at other institutions.  Again, other aspects are responsible for that; some legit, some not. ;)


Another great post former. I have to agree that small colleges/universities need to update their facilities as needed to attract quality students and student-athletes. However, the  college needs to  make sure their athletic programs are competitive year in and year out, or blue chip recruits will go somewhere else. BU has done some great things to their campus and having their football team win conference and make the play-offs the last two years will be a drawing card for them. I see them picking up steam within the next few years as football success will lead to good things for their school.
Speaking for myself only, North Central has increased it's tuition every year by an average of 4%. Next year, the cost will be around $40,000 or so depending on books, fees, ect. I know they did not want to raise tuition out of reach, but I honestly don't know what will happen when tuition hits $50K and beyond. Taking out student/parent loans that put kids behind the eight ball before they even get their first job, just is not a very smart thing to do.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on March 29, 2012, 09:59:12 PM
Thanks, newcard and yours is a good post also.  You bring up some legit concerns.  Some of the DIII school's have tuitions already at the $50k mark.  I know that at Hope, it is now well over $40k, once you add in all those extra costs you mention.  That is staggering and while some of the other MIAA schools are less, yet still offer a great education, it is getting much tougher for families as you point out.  As we've discussed several times over on our MIAA board, some of those schools are able to offer better financial packages to their students, although as we know, involved in that is what is limited by the financial statements/earnings that families have and which are computed by the admissions department with regard to what can be offered (not counting community and/or church scholarships, scholarships and/or grants offered by other organizations, etc., etc.).  The bottom line is as you mentioned...like you, I am not sure how the continued rising costs of tuition at these schools is going to exactly play out other than it will have to have some effect on some families in simply not being able to afford it.  Add to that the opportunity for some student-athletes to get athletic scholarships as the DII schools if they have the talent (and also at NAIA schools offering football scholarships).  Overall, for many families, a tough situation in some respects.

 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 30, 2012, 08:39:00 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on March 29, 2012, 09:59:12 PM
Thanks, newcard and yours is a good post also.  You bring up some legit concerns.  Some of the DIII school's have tuitions already at the $50k mark.  I know that at Hope, it is now well over $40k, once you add in all those extra costs you mention.  That is staggering and while some of the other MIAA schools are less, yet still offer a great education, it is getting much tougher for families as you point out.  As we've discussed several times over on our MIAA board, some of those schools are able to offer better financial packages to their students, although as we know, involved in that is what is limited by the financial statements/earnings that families have and which are computed by the admissions department with regard to what can be offered (not counting community and/or church scholarships, scholarships and/or grants offered by other organizations, etc., etc.).  The bottom line is as you mentioned...like you, I am not sure how the continued rising costs of tuition at these schools is going to exactly play out other than it will have to have some effect on some families in simply not being able to afford it.  Add to that the opportunity for some student-athletes to get athletic scholarships as the DII schools if they have the talent (and also at NAIA schools offering football scholarships).  Overall, for many families, a tough situation in some respects.



Well, we have one more to get through college after son graduates next year. She is only a Sophomore, but she is taking dual credit courses and will attend the local junior college and try to graduate in 1 1/2 years, so she can work full time for a full semester before enrolling at Purdue(following the lead of oldest sister). She can save some cost by living with my daughter and son-in-law and still graduate with a degree from the school of her choice. The cost of attendance at a four year school for four(or more) years is not worth going into debt over. My oldest daughter has $60 in student loans and does not want any of her siblings to be in the same boat.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 30, 2012, 09:16:22 AM
I agree with Former and NewCard, I highly doubt BU "just likes to build stuff", Like the others have written, small colleges and universities NEED to update their campuses to stay competitive with not only other small college's and universities but also larger college's and universities! Look at St. Thomas, they were the doormat of the Minnesota conference, they updated their facilities and made it to the semi-finals in football this year! Now, I am not saying that this will be the case at every school, but I do think it plays a big factor in it! Young adults WANT "the top of the line" and that is what BU is trying to give their students and athletes! As far as the locker room project, they have been fundraising and raising money to get this project done for awhile now, so I doubt that is what is causing the increase in tuition!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 30, 2012, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 30, 2012, 09:16:22 AM
I agree with Former and NewCard, I highly doubt BU "just likes to build stuff", Like the others have written, small colleges and universities NEED to update their campuses to stay competitive with not only other small college's and universities but also larger college's and universities! Look at St. Thomas, they were the doormat of the Minnesota conference, they updated their facilities and made it to the semi-finals in football this year! Now, I am not saying that this will be the case at every school, but I do think it plays a big factor in it! Young adults WANT "the top of the line" and that is what BU is trying to give their students and athletes! As far as the locker room project, they have been fundraising and raising money to get this project done for awhile now, so I doubt that is what is causing the increase in tuition!
Usually projects like the locker room are not the reason for a tuition increase as those projects are completed through special fundraising.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 30, 2012, 11:44:19 AM
Right, that is what I said in my previous post! They have been raising money so this project can be completed! The other projects that clutch is speaking of I do not know much about, but I have heard rumors about those as well.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 30, 2012, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 30, 2012, 11:44:19 AM
Right, that is what I said in my previous post! They have been raising money so this project can be completed! The other projects that clutch is speaking of I do not know much about, but I have heard rumors about those as well.

Well, it would be a shame to hike tuition just to update or add on, unless it is academic in nature and enhances all students who attend. I know tuition goes up, but I really think they need to show numbers to justify 4-5 percent(and beyond) raises every year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 30, 2012, 12:27:09 PM
I agree, I would hate to see tuition get to the 50K range, I think that would spell bad news for a lot of small schools!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on March 30, 2012, 01:58:05 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 30, 2012, 12:27:09 PM
I agree, I would hate to see tuition get to the 50K range, I think that would spell bad news for a lot of small schools!

That might signal the end of the four year university as we now know it.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on April 04, 2012, 10:00:39 AM
Clutch, has the locker room renovation began yet? Or are they thinking more late April?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on April 17, 2012, 09:24:49 AM
Im sure each team is in the middle of spring ball right now, how is each team doing? I have yet to get to a BU practice, but i am determined to get out there sometime before spring ball is over! Any updates?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on April 23, 2012, 08:17:53 PM
I will answer my own question... The locker room renovation at BU has begun!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on May 18, 2012, 11:34:40 AM
Maranatha will be playing their last NAthCon season in 2012 as they will be leaving the conference in all sports during the summer of 2013.

http://northernac.org/releases/20120517mbbcw

They will remain a Division III member.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 18, 2012, 02:21:17 PM
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on May 18, 2012, 11:34:40 AM
Maranatha will be playing their last NAthCon season in 2012 as they will be leaving the conference in all sports during the summer of 2013.

http://northernac.org/releases/20120517mbbcw

They will remain a Division III member.


I guess they figured it was best to "pull back" a little. The school turned down an opportunity to join the NAthCon/MIAA challenge in football-- the Crusaders weren't that strong in football.

Their strongest sport the last few years has been women's volleyball, (which has made the NAthCon post season tournament the last couple of years and even got an in-tournament upset or two now and then.) Their women's hoops squad improved its' in-conference record quite a bit last season--

It'll be interesting to see how many (if any) current in-conference rivals Maranatha keeps scheduling after next year   (as has been previously noted, most of their more consistent success has been in the NCCAA.)

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on May 19, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
I wonder if the conference will try and add another school???
Title: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 19, 2012, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on May 19, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
I wonder if the conference will try and add another school???

Depends on how badly the conference needed to. (I don't think it's necessary to maintain bids for NCAA tournament eligibilty -- Pat's in a position to speak to that specifically).

Cardinal Stritch and Mt. Mary could be possibilities (both in the Milwaukee area) from a geographical standpoint.

(11 schools on the men's side after next year-)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on May 20, 2012, 02:52:33 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on May 19, 2012, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on May 19, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
I wonder if the conference will try and add another school???

Depends on how badly the conference needed to. (I don't think it's necessary to maintain bids for NCAA tournament eligibilty -- Pat's in a position to speak to that specifically).

Cardinal Stritch and Mt. Mary could be possibilities (both in the Milwaukee area) from a geographical standpoint.

(11 schools on the men's side after next year-)


I think if the NAthCon wanted to expand it would be a school with football to help bolster the football numbers since they are at the minimum for having an AQ right now. Mt. Mary is a women's college so they are no help. Cardinal Stritch hasn't even talked about adding football (they have no outdoor fields, baseball plays at their home games at Waukesha Tech, almost 30 minutes away) so they are no help in the short term.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on May 22, 2012, 10:58:31 AM
Just a thought but I think the NAC'S only hope for a new team is to have one of the current co-ed schools step up and start football. Dominican would be great as they are very competitive in other sports and located near CUC. What a rival game that would be. The only other likely choice would be Marian. I don't think MSOE would do it as they are a city school with not much room for growth. I hope someone steps up. Any other thoughts from the NAC folks.

In news on the recruiting front from your schools. I hear AU has had a boatload of recruits on campus and they think their new players and transfers are going to be better than last year. Maybe the coaching change will help them get back to the top.

I only got to see AU play 2 games, younest son at St. X, but I think they can be more competitive this year. I think BU, CUW, WLC and CUC fight it out for the gold. I like BU, with a load of Seniors, but I think CUW and WLC as early favorites also. CUC has the good QB but will their Defense be Great. Anyone else with thoughts
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on May 22, 2012, 12:07:05 PM
I have heard that BU is bringing in a lot of incoming FR and transfers for this upcoming year...  Rumor has it, around 60 new players total! The only question mark for BU going into the fall is who is going to play QB??? I think there are 2 current players that are going to fight for that position this upcoming fall, but im not sure what they are bringing in at the qb position, I dont think they would start a FR, but maybe a transfer could add some more competition and depth at the QB position!  I have heard that they are focusing on OL/DL, you can never have enough quality depth at that position at this level!

As for a favorite for this fall, I think that the conference is wide open.. I could see quite a few teams in the hunt for the Conference Championship! I think this is going to be a very competitive season in the NAC with WLC, CUC and BU being my favorites going into the season.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 02, 2012, 09:00:29 PM
2012 Schedule is up:

http://northernac.org/sports/fball/2012-13/schedule
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 04, 2012, 05:26:06 PM
News on a coaching development at Lakeland:

http://lakeland.edu/athletics/muskienews.asp?article=9196
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on June 12, 2012, 02:55:39 PM
BU began putting new field turf down. can't wait to see the finished product!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on June 14, 2012, 11:05:58 AM
is AU QB (Bevell) back for another year, or is he out of eligibility??
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on June 14, 2012, 09:14:52 PM
d3fan1515
To my knowledge as of recently (May) he has 1 year left. However, I might add his body has taken a heavey toll in the last 2 years. The hit I saw at BU was ugly and I thought would sideline his career.

I know AU is looking for a big year and to get back in the chase. There may be others with more up to date info.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on June 15, 2012, 07:59:45 AM
Well, if he is back, i'm sure they will be pretty good offensively once again!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on July 02, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
Does BU play North Park this year? And is it at home.I'd like to catch that game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 02, 2012, 12:39:47 PM
BU plays at Wheaton, at NPU, and then at home against Abion
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on July 02, 2012, 02:40:36 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on July 02, 2012, 12:39:47 PM
BU plays at Wheaton, at NPU, and then at home against Abion
Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on July 07, 2012, 04:22:03 PM
Congrats to Benedictine's Pat Sterk and Ben Lockton for being selected as BSN 2nd team all american, And Johnny Borselino for 3rd Team. Does anyone know who will be playing the role as the QB this year there, wondering if they found a transfer or if it will be one of the sophmores.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 09, 2012, 06:10:34 PM
As of right now I would say it has to be one of the sophomores... I could be wrong, but I have not heard of any QB transfers.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on July 11, 2012, 02:32:51 PM
Another congrats to benedictine and ben lockton being named preseason 1st team, gonna love to see that school create more outstanding players and hopefully the conference as well. Itll be good to see some playoff wins by any of the nac teams.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 11, 2012, 05:02:50 PM
Great accomplishment for Ben, congratulations!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 21, 2012, 11:21:14 AM
BU has put up new photos of their new field turf!! Go to benueagles.com to view photos!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on July 23, 2012, 11:59:28 AM
The new turf looks amazing and the locker room is looking sharp too, equipped with lounge with trophy case and a few flat screens and a couch in their own personal lounge.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 25, 2012, 12:56:20 PM
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2012/7/23/FB_seasonpre.aspx?path=football

This is Wheaton Colleges' pre-season outlook, thought I would post it to see if any BU fans wanted to take a look at what we are up against come week 1! Wheaton is a very tough opponent and I look forward to seeing how we play against them!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on July 25, 2012, 01:40:56 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on July 25, 2012, 12:56:20 PM
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2012/7/23/FB_seasonpre.aspx?path=football

This is Wheaton Colleges' pre-season outlook, thought I would post it to see if any BU fans wanted to take a look at what we are up against come week 1! Wheaton is a very tough opponent and I look forward to seeing how we play against them!

I saw that, really neat thing they do.. hope more schools will start to do a preseason showcase like theirs. Wheaton always has cool things for their school and website, I remember seeing offseason competitions like diving contests, tug of war, and others for the football team. I think that is great for team bonding. Elmhurst used to do something like it when journell was coach, there were teams of 5 and the winning team got out of a conditioning or got hoodies or something, you would win points for winning fun events, or good grades, and points would be  lost for skipping class or missing a spring practice or lifting. I think this helps bonding and getting to know people and it helps kids stay out of the many troubles that are around on campus.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 31, 2012, 06:15:24 PM
http://www.albion.edu/sports/mens-sports/football/4876-briton-football-program-sets-lofty-goals-for-2012

Albion released their 2012 pre-season outlook, should be another challenging game for BU... Thought the BU fans would like to see what we are up against come week 3!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Bricklin1132 on July 31, 2012, 07:18:23 PM
They update their site in a timely manner. Lot's of schools have zero information at this point. But they look to be the leader in the MIAA.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 02, 2012, 04:03:12 PM
With training camps opening up in a week, what are the biggest question marks for your team?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 02, 2012, 04:04:39 PM
For BU it is, which QB will emerge as the better player...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: old 40 on August 02, 2012, 07:41:26 PM
d3fan1515

I have been away most of the last 2 months and I have not talked to any AU coaches but my oldest two sons who both played there have kept up with the program.

AU, to has questions at QB. Can he recover from his injuries and he can he be healthly all year. I think the new coaching change will take time to adjust to even though the the O & D will be mostly the same. I think the new regime will be alot tougher on rules and discipline than the old one.

The Running game will be strong with at least 3 good backs. I heard Rivera will be back 100%.

I was told the D will be the best in awhile. The Christmas kid is a world beater and will be one of the top DL's in the league.

I think if they jell early and can win 2 of the 3 non-conference games they will contend for the ring.

Please note this is a collection of thoughts from my kids thru some of their talks with coaches and players. The overall feeling is they are very optimistic and the coaching change was a good thing. Time will tell. Good Luck to everyones team.

Maybe some predictions next week or after camp opens.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on August 03, 2012, 10:09:15 AM
The empty qb slot is definitely the biggest concern for bu. My guess is keener wil take the spot, he brought his hs team to state and won sevral awards. At rb you have all american borsellino and back up alessi so the are really strong with runners, the have chris shultz coming back at wr plus a couple of underclassmen that looked pretty good in the jv games. Assuming everyone is coming back and staying healthy they only lost one o lineman .. But I heard they have a big transfer to fill his spot. On d line they have all american lockton, the mixed players aroumd alot last year but none were seniors and id imagine the other 3 starters would be davila, ratagan, and sakal. They are returning 3 strong linebackers and safty rickert. They lost 2 corners so assuming that those spots are filled with good athletes then defense should be better than last year. Guess well just have to wait until the season starts .. I cant wait.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 07, 2012, 09:48:18 AM
When do your teams report to camp? BU reports this Thursday because their first game is a Thursday night so they get to report a little earlier... What about everyone else?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on August 07, 2012, 10:18:58 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on August 07, 2012, 09:48:18 AM
When do your teams report to camp? BU reports this Thursday because their first game is a Thursday night so they get to report a little earlier... What about everyone else?
Saturday morning with sason opener Sept. 1st
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 07, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on August 07, 2012, 09:48:18 AM
When do your teams report to camp? BU reports this Thursday because their first game is a Thursday night so they get to report a little earlier... What about everyone else?

They do not get to report earlier for playing Thursday night, just for the record. If they report earlier it's based solely on the school's first day of classes.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on August 07, 2012, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 07, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on August 07, 2012, 09:48:18 AM
When do your teams report to camp? BU reports this Thursday because their first game is a Thursday night so they get to report a little earlier... What about everyone else?

They do not get to report earlier for playing Thursday night, just for the record. If they report earlier it's based solely on the school's first day of classes.
That makes sense.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NACfan215 on August 16, 2012, 04:26:04 PM
New AD hire at Lakeland, and quit the hire it is, what's the impact on the schools football program and on its future conference Outlook?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 18, 2012, 12:09:24 AM
In my opinion, hiring any Hall of Fame inductee would bode well for the football program... That being said, I think Lakeland will be competitive even if they didn't hire Winslow, Lakeland always gets together a nice team come fall!

How are fall camps going for your teams??? Who are the NAC teams scrimmaging?? BU is scrimmaging Illinois Weslyan!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 18, 2012, 10:01:14 AM
Press release for BU's new locker room!!!

8/17/2012 9:34:00 AM
Lisle, Illinois - The more the Benedictine University football team under coach Jon Cooper wins, the more student-athletes want to be part of the program. Unfortunately, the locker facilities at the Dan and Ada Rice Center have not been able to meet the expectations and standards desired by the highly-competitive program. Until now.

This fall Benedictine University and the Department of Athletics will unveil the "Borsellino Family Football Center," a one-of-a-kind locker and meeting facility that enhances the overall student-athlete experience, expands the University's recruiting power and serves as a sense of pride for the entire football program.

"The new locker facility is beyond my wildest dreams," head football coach Jon Cooper said. "The size, the amenities and the design make it a state-of-the-art facility at any level. It gives us the tools to maximize our potential and gives our student-athletes something to call home."

The 4,100-square foot, $1.7 million facility located on the west side of the Rice Center incorporates new exterior construction and renovation of two indoor racquetball courts, which had served primarily as storage for the past 10 years.

The center includes 120 hardwood lockers, which are ventilated for increased air flow and wired for individual electrical outlets. Each locker is equipped with leather embossed seating and several areas for storage.

The facility features a 24-foot multimedia area including a 20-foot chalk talk board, flat screen TVs and game consoles. A "Champions Room" that recognizes past Eagle team champions and individual accomplishments features soft seating and will provide the student-athletes a place to study and relax.

The locker facility is named for the Borsellino family of Oak Brook, which has sent three sons to Benedictine including All-American senior running back John Borsellino, who prepped at Montini Catholic High School in Lombard. The Borsellinos also made a significant donation to the project.

"The impact of this generous gift by the Borsellino family cannot be understated," said Mark McHorney, director of Athletics at Benedictine. "The Borsellino's commitment to Benedictine Athletics is instrumental in helping us achieve our goals and we cannot thank them enough."

"We are proud that Benedictine University has chosen to honor our family by naming this facility the 'Borsellino Family Football Center,'" Joe Borsellino Sr. said.

The facility was designed by DLR Group and built by International Contractors Inc.

"We are grateful to our administrators and the donors who made all of this possible," Cooper said. "As a team and community, we are excited about the future of Benedictine football."
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on August 18, 2012, 10:36:01 AM
Heard from some alumni of Benedictine that at todays Red/White Scrimmage (Benu's inter squad scrimmage) the Athletic department will be hosting a reunion for former BenU football players... The gathering is said to include talks with Coach Cooper, Athletic Director, and visiting with this years team. Sounds like everything BenU is doing these days is top notch and headed in the right direction.

O and in case you haven't heard BenU's brand new $1.7 million locker room is nearing completion, and tours of the new facility will also be held today at the scrimmage. From what I have heard, this locker room will rival any locker room in the country!

So with opening night for eagles less than two weeks away, its seems they will be ready for this season. I hope all teams stay healthy this year and wish everyone the best of luck!



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: NCF on August 18, 2012, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: Zeus51 on August 18, 2012, 10:36:01 AM
Heard from some alumni of Benedictine that at todays Red/White Scrimmage (Benu's inter squad scrimmage) the Athletic department will be hosting a reunion for former BenU football players... The gathering is said to include talks with Coach Cooper, Athletic Director, and visiting with this years team. Sounds like everything BenU is doing these days is top notch and headed in the right direction.

O and in case you haven't heard BenU's brand new $1.7 million locker room is nearing completion, and tours of the new facility will also be held today at the scrimmage. From what I have heard, this locker room will rival any locker room in the country!

So with opening night for eagles less than two weeks away, its seems they will be ready for this season. I hope all teams stay healthy this year and wish everyone the best of luck!
sounds awesome!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on August 20, 2012, 04:47:12 PM
I went to the red/white scrimmage, overall I think it was a great performance that showed lots of talent on both sides of the ball. There were a good number of players not dressed though or taking one or 2 snaps and then sitting out and iceing .. Hopefully this is just a banged up problem and not real injury because there were some key players that were doing this. I will post more by position later.

I also got the sneak peak of the locker room and I must say I have been in sevral d1 locker rooms and this is still way better. 5 flat screen tvs. 2 for video game systems, individual showeres, a players lounge. Wide lockers with individual stools, 2 usb jacks in EACH locker for charging anything.  And theres going to be past champions and all nac and all americans names engraved in the lockers of their numbers. Theres more as well I just cant remember it all.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on August 23, 2012, 01:41:47 PM
Congrats to two Benedictine seniors on being named to the  "D3 Senior Classic" preseason All-American team. Senior defensive end Ben Lockton was named to the "D3 Senior Classic" preseason All-American team as an honorable mention , while senior running back John Borsellino was named to the first team. Here is the full story from the Benedictine Athletics page: http://benueagles.com/news/2012/8/23/FB_0823123618.aspx

Exactly one week until BenU kickoff!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on August 26, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
ANYONE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THE 2012 TOP 25 FAN POLL (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7065.msg1434525#msg1434525):
Please send me a PM with your ballot. I'd like to get a preseason poll up by Thursday night.

During the season ballots shall be due by Tuesdays so I can get them up Tuesday night.

Remember, this is just fun and we aren't part of the BCS Formula... yet ;D
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 27, 2012, 11:59:43 AM
LET THE FUN BEGIN!! Here are the NAC week 1 match-ups... Let the predictions begin!

Benedictine             Wheaton (Ill.)      
Lake Forest             Concordia Chicago      
Aurora                      Illinois Wesleyan      
Carroll (Wis.)              Lakeland      
Westminster (Mo.)      Rockford      
Wisconsin Lutheran      Ripon      
Concordia Wisconsin      Augsburg      
Martin Luther                     Maranatha      

I will predict later      
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on August 28, 2012, 06:09:25 PM
Here are my predictions, simply based off last years results and what teams have coming back.

Concordia Chicago Vs. Lake Forest..............CUC wins by 2 scores
Aurora Vs. Illinois Wesleyan......................Wesleyan Wins, but in a very tight game, AU gives them a run for their money!
Carroll (Wis) Vs. Lakeland........................ Not to sure here, So I say Lakeland in a tight one
Westminster (Mo) Vs. Rockford.................Westminster
Wisconsin Luthren Vs. Ripon.....................Ripon wins this one, but closer game than last years results
Concordia Wisconsin Vs. Augsburg.............Concordia bounces back from last years loss and wins in a tight game
Martin Luther Vs. Maranatha.....................The crusaders start the year off 1-0 for the 2nd straight season
*Benedictine Vs. Wheaton* (Game of the Week) BenU heads to play Wheaton on thursday night to kick off the season. This will be a very tough game for the Eagles. In a lot of ways this game is similar to the AU game, I expect BenU to play tough and hopefully Coach Copper has the team well prepared for the Thunder, cause they will be ready!

Again this is simply my opinion and truly means nothing. I wish every NAC team luck this week and hope we put up a better non-conference record than a year ago. Most importantly I hope each team stays healty and represent the NAC well!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on August 30, 2012, 10:43:31 AM
Quote from: Zeus51 on August 28, 2012, 06:09:25 PM
Here are my predictions, simply based off last years results and what teams have coming back.

Concordia Chicago Vs. Lake Forest..............CUC wins by 2 scores
Aurora Vs. Illinois Wesleyan......................Wesleyan Wins, but in a very tight game, AU gives them a run for their money!
Carroll (Wis) Vs. Lakeland........................ Not to sure here, So I say Lakeland in a tight one
Westminster (Mo) Vs. Rockford.................Westminster
Wisconsin Luthren Vs. Ripon.....................Ripon wins this one, but closer game than last years results
Concordia Wisconsin Vs. Augsburg.............Concordia bounces back from last years loss and wins in a tight game
Martin Luther Vs. Maranatha.....................The crusaders start the year off 1-0 for the 2nd straight season
*Benedictine Vs. Wheaton* (Game of the Week) BenU heads to play Wheaton on thursday night to kick off the season. This will be a very tough game for the Eagles. In a lot of ways this game is similar to the AU game, I expect BenU to play tough and hopefully Coach Copper has the team well prepared for the Thunder, cause they will be ready!

Again this is simply my opinion and truly means nothing. I wish every NAC team luck this week and hope we put up a better non-conference record than a year ago. Most importantly I hope each team stays healty and represent the NAC well!
My picks for the week as are follows .. I don't know much about non cciw and nac conferences so some of these might be surprising.
CCU vs lake forest ... Chicago is ready to win a title they'll show it here they win by 2 scores
AU vs iwu ... Iwu wins by a mile
Carroll vs lakeland ... Carroll by a couple
Westminister vs rockford ... Rockford keeps struggling west. By a couple scores
Wisc. Luth. Vs ripon ... I think wisc. Luth. Will comtinue their success with a w this weekend
Con. Wisc. Vs augsburg ... Augsburg by 2 scores
Martin luther vs maranantha ... Maranantha start out 1-0 again
Benedictine vs wheaton ... The injurys scare me on defense I wonder who will be playing losing sevral starters in the scrimmage , but if they play error free football they have a chance. I must have faith in my fav team so I'm gonna say benedictine wins 42-38. I think johnny will have a hell of a day and bu defense will stop the run but struggle with pass a little.
God luck to all NAC teams this week
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 30, 2012, 11:28:24 AM
Benedictine                 Wheaton (Ill.) - I don't predict any BU games!   
Lake Forest                 Concordia Chicago- Concordia beats a weak Lake Forest team!     
Aurora                        Illinois Wesleyan- I did do some thinking on this one, but i'm taking IWU.     
Carroll                        Lakeland- I think Carroll wins this in a CLOSE one.   
Westminster                Rockford- Westminister     
Wisconsin Lutheran       Ripon- Wisconsin Lutheran wins this one, They will be TOUGH this year!           
Martin Luther               Maranatha- Maranatha

Concordia Wisconsin     Augsburg-  I think this is the game of the week! I think Concordia will be much better then last year but I think they will lose a close one to augsburg
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 30, 2012, 12:32:01 PM
My Week 1 guesses:

Wheaton
Concordia-Chicago
IL Wes
Lakeland    (Muskies will want to make a statement for Mr. Winslow)
Westminster
WLC
Maranatha
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 01, 2012, 05:04:36 PM
Well so far the only NAC teams to win have been WLC and CIRF... I don't see anything about Lakeland and Carroll... If anyone knows can you please post!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 01, 2012, 06:45:39 PM
Nevermind Lakeland lost...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 01, 2012, 10:55:29 PM
WLC with a big win.  I think they are going to be a tough out for every conference foe this year.

CUC's offense looked decent against Lake Forest, but they were fortunate that they collected five turnovers on defense, because they struggled stopping Lake Forest otherwise.  They didn't allow any huge gains, but the Foresters just ground out yardage. (I think the Cougars are going to miss their nose tackle from last year, Dwyer. He did a fine job at "mucking up" the middle for the past three years.) Still too many penalties for Cuc which killed a few drives as well.

The next two will be pretty stiff tests for CUC.




Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 02, 2012, 11:04:31 AM
Looking over the scores of NAC teams from the weekend, I think it's tough to predict the top 4 or 5 teams in the conference, but here goes:

- No idea about BU or AU because Wheaton and IWU are programs which are on a completely different level of talent than NAC teams.  (See Alabama vs. Michigan :'( )  I have to think BU is one the class teams of the conference based on their performance last year and their returning veterans. AU appeared by the box score to hang around IWU for about a quarter and a half but then the roof caved in. Hard to tell from a box score, however, how overall competitive a team will be. Don't count out AU.

- Most impressive team of the week: WLC. Wow. (WLCALUM83 - you must be shaking with anticipation by the prospects of this season.) They manhandled a Ripon team that beat the Warriors easily last year. Right now they're my conference favorite.

- CUC - Ask again in two weeks after the Cougars play Chicago and Hope how good they are this year. Same wild offense. Defense that -  ah - who knows. They start two freshmen on the O-line and one on the D-line which makes me nervous. Also, I don't think that they have quite the firepower of the last few years to make up for a defense that also lost a number of playmakers. (Although I just love Koehler.) Pries has worked miracles, but a fourth straight 8-2 season would be a lot to ask for. 

- CUW - Hung with Augsburg for a half. I have to think that they are about to turn it around this year. Can someone out there can give an inside heads-up on the Falcons?

- Lakeland. Darkhorse contender. Gave up late scores vs. Carroll (who, in my opinion, is a very quality club) to lose heartbreaker. They will have a say in who wears the crown.

Side note: Can anybody give me an idea of the "average" number of newcomers (freshmen and transfers) that show up for the beginning of fall camp that don't, for whatever reason, make it to the opening roster?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 02, 2012, 12:28:46 PM
My take on BU vs. Wheaton, Let me start off by saying that Wheaton is an excellent football team with a fantastic offense!  That being said, I think BU could have been much much more competitive in this game.  BU shot themselves in the foot on two occasions that I can remember and simply could not put the ball in the endzone right before halftime! Offensively they need to pick it up in the run game, there was no where to run on Thursday night... In the passing game they need to create more chemistry with our transfer QB and Wideouts (Kid only practiced for a week before starting his first game as an eagle).  I think once these guys develop some chemistry they will be a very good group! 

Defensively BU needs to improve, I know that they had some guys not play, but that is no excuse and every team deals with injuries and other issues.  Off the top of my head, I think two defensive backs were out and also one linebacker who I believe is done for the year. Either way I still think this could be a very good defense, they just need to get better every week.  I look to see much improvement from BU in the next couple weeks and hope that they are ready for this weekends game at NPU!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 02, 2012, 04:05:40 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 02, 2012, 11:04:31 AM

- Most impressive team of the week: WLC. Wow. (WLCALUM83 - you must be shaking with anticipation by the prospects of this season.) They manhandled a Ripon team that beat the Warriors easily last year. Right now they're my conference favorite.



I, too, was shocked that the Warriors won that big -- I'm hoping they can keep that momentum up against Olivet and an Adrian team that lost a heartbreaker to Carthage yesterday.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on September 04, 2012, 12:29:47 AM
Some notes on the BU Wheaton Blowout:
Benedictine is going to have to play better than that to keep their conference belt. The 2 All americans on the team were completely shut down and it seemed like no one else on the team knew how to make a play. Lockton only had 2 tackles and I found out is playing with a torn meniscus, and Johnny had 16 carries for 18 yards, the o=line has got to help create some room so he can work his magic. Defensively they started out with 3 injured starters and finished with 5. Both D ends Lockton and White were pulled for injuries, Middle Linebacker Alteri didn't play, Corner Kiel only took 1 series then sat, and Captain Rickert did not play. Hopefully they will all be healthy by conference. All I know is BU has the firepower to be an amazing team but I now wonder if they will be able to avoid injuries and put together some blocking for Johnny and a defensive scheme that utilizes Lockton and the rest of the D-Line.
On another note Cyle Shultz had some really nice passes just not being brought in by the receivers and he was the only one in the game with a touchdown so hopefully he will be the second threat that Bu needs along with his brother.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 06, 2012, 01:03:51 PM
Congrats to these players for being named the players of the week for the NAC!

Ethan Lane of Maranatha, Jake Koehler of Concordia Chicago and Josh Ruppel of Wisconsin Lutheran were named the Northern Athletics Conference Defensive, Offensive and Special Teams Football Student-Athletes of the Week for events of Aug. 27-Sept. 2.

Lane posted 19 tackles -- including 11 solo and 5.5 for a loss -- to go along with three sacks in a loss to Martin Luther on Saturday. The senior linebacker also forced a fumble for the Crusaders (0-1).

Koehler completed 70 percent of his passes (21-of-30) for 305 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions in the Cougars' 35-27 win over Lake Forest. The senior quarterback also scrambled for 89 yards on 13 carries for CUC (1-0).

Ruppel made an impressive debut for the Warriors (1-0) on Saturday, as he was a perfect 4-for-4 in extra point attempts. The rookie kicker finished the game with seven points as he also added a 29-yard field goal. Ruppel averaged 55.7 yards per kickoff in the Warriors' 31-0 win over Ripon.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 06, 2012, 01:06:41 PM
Week 2 match-ups

Olivet                               Wisconsin Lutheran- WLC wins in a blow out vs a poor olivet team.
Rockford                       Loras- Loras         
Concordia Wisconsin       Macalester- CUW      
Maranatha                       Trinity Bible (N.D.)- I don't know Trinity, so I'll take Maranatha.   
Concordia Chicago       Chicago- Ummm I think this will be a close one... Concordia         
Benedictine                       North Park- I Don't pick BU games!

Good Luck to all!         
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 07, 2012, 02:36:48 PM
WLCALUM83's Week 2 guesses:

WLC
Loras
CUW
Maranatha
U of Chicago
Benedictine
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 07, 2012, 03:52:22 PM
My picks for this weekend:

WLC
Loras
CUW
Chicago
Maranatha
North Park
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on September 08, 2012, 03:24:02 PM
My picks for the weekend are as follows. Again this could be very inaccurate do to my non knowledge of non CCIW NAC teams.

WLC vs Olivet ... WLC
Loras vs Rockford ... Loras
Con. Wisc. vs Macal ... Dont know anything about Macal. so Ima say Concordia Wisc.
Trinity vs Maranantha ... Trinity Sounds like this will be a nice game with some great men playing I just love the sportsmanship Maranantha has
BenU vs North Park ... This will be a hard fought game but I gottta go with BU Lockton and Johhny have some proving to do for this year
Game of the week!
Chicago vs Concordia Chicago ... Im gonna take Concordia, Chicago is becoming a better team every year beating some good opponents last year and Concordia has lost some key starters, but I think Concordia is going to want it more.



Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: footballfan413 on September 08, 2012, 05:15:53 PM
To fans of D-3 football everywhere.  I am honored to have been asked to spread the word regarding a new cancer fund that has been established to help Tom Pattison, UW-W sports broadcaster and founder of www.warhawkfootball.com    I and my family know, all to well, how a cancer diagnosis can be devastating to a families daily lives and finances. Please, consider making even the smallest donation to Tom.

The following is an open letter by Retired UW-W Coach Bob Berezowitz:

Team Tom Cancer Fund Drive established

Once a Warhawk, always a Warhawk are the often spoken words by Tom Pattison, longtime "voice" of the Warhawks. Over the many years of broadcasting UW-Whitewater football, basketball and baseball games on KOOL 106.5 (and prior to that (940 WFAW), Tom has "bled purple" during each one of his broadcasts.

Unfortunately, on May 28, 2012 Tom was diagnosed with advanced stage 2 colon cancer. He underwent colorectal cancer surgery in Fort Atkinson and in the process has developed astronomical hospital and medical bills.

Tom has already gone through the first phase of radiation treatment at the UW Cancer Clinic along with chemotherapy with phase two starting later this month.

Tom has given his heart and soul to Warhawk athletics over his 25 years of living here in southern Wisconsin. He served six years as the president of the UW-Whitewater Quarterback Club and still serves on the club's board of directors.

In 2003 Tom founded Warhawkfootball.com where Warhawk fans, players, former players and parents have been able to view up-to-date Warhawk football news and information 365 days a year. Nearly 1.5 million visitors have clicked onto the Website over the years.

The Website that has been funded entirely by Tom has been a popular "voice" for Warhawk football fans not only locally but around the world.

Well now Tom needs your assistance in his battle with cancer.

With the help and leadership of UW-Whitewater Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Dr. Paul Plinke and former Warhawk football coach Bob Berezowitz and KOOL 106.5 Radio a team has been set up to lead a campaign to raise funds for Tom.

The "Team Tom Cancer Fund" has been established through Commercial Bank in Whitewater and is now accepting donations.

Donations may be sent to: Team Tom Cancer Fund, c/o Commercial Bank, 200 South Freemont St. Whitewater, WI 53190


The fund raising drive will also include Tom Pattison Day at Perkins Stadium on Oct. 6, 2012. More details will be announced shortly.

"I have known Tom for many years while coaching and now in retirement," Berezowitz said. "There is not another person who has given more of himself to help promote UW-Whitewater football. He is always writing articles for both past and present players that are published on his Website.

It is now our turn to say "thank you" for his efforts by considering making a donation to the to assist Tom in his time of need.

Go Warhawks,
Bob Berezowitz
UW-Whitewater Football Coach/Retired
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 08, 2012, 10:08:35 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran beats Olivet 38-14

Loras beats Rockford 28-14

Macalester edges Concordia Wisconsin 17-13

Trinity Bible beats Maranatha 31-20

Concordia Chicago gets a 27-26 win over Chicago

Benedictine leads North Park 21-14 in the fourth.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 08, 2012, 10:35:48 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 08, 2012, 10:08:35 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran beats Olivet 38-14

Loras beats Rockford 28-14

Macalester edges Concordia Wisconsin 17-13

Trinity Bible beats Maranatha 31-20

Concordia Chicago gets a 27-26 win over Chicago

Benedictine leads North Park 21-14 in the fourth.

A little insight for the WLC vs Olivet game.

Both teams had a slow first quarter, WLC went for it twice on fourth down and didn't convert both of them. WLC got the first points of the game with a field goal. Olivet got a 62 yard strike to take a 7-3 lead. That lead lasted about 15 seconds as Donavan Tucker return the ensuing kickoff 92 yards to the house to retake the lead for good. WLC didn't let Olivet to get in any type of offensive groove outside of that second quarter drive and the last scoring drive at the end. Josh Stodola set a WLC record with 12 receptions. WLC is on a six game winning streak heading into a marquee matchup against Adrian next week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 09, 2012, 02:42:23 PM
Observation from BU vs. NPU

Defense played fantastic against a tough NPU option offense!  Forced 6 turnovers!

Offensively, I think BU can be really good, they really just need to get chemistry with our new QB and score when they get in the RED ZONE! BU should have easily one this game by 3 scores! 

Last observation BU needs to stop shooting themselves in the foot, they had 9 penalties for 100 yards!

Borsellino had over 300 all purpose yards and Lockton led the D with 10 tackles
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on September 09, 2012, 09:59:13 PM
BU defense played an amazing footaball game on Sat. the best I have seen it in years. Limiting NP to just over 100 yards. and in my eyes only giving up 7 points because one was on a fumble and one on a 10 yards field. The Dline Linbackers and Secondary were all clicking and being where they needed to be all night. The offense showed many signs of greatness, having 435 yards of offense but they shot themselves in the foot with 100 yds. of penalties and a handful of failed redzone a attempts. Borsellino and Lockton finally showing why they are All Americans. Albion will be tough for the upcoming week but as long as the Defense plays the way they just did and the Offense just learns how to finish long drives I think it will be a fun game to watch.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 10, 2012, 12:36:26 PM
Week 3 Match-Ups NAC/MIAA Challenge

Hope            Concordia Chicago      1:00 PM     HMMMMM Concordia in a close one...   

Adrian          Wisconsin Lutheran      1:00 PM     Adrian in a close one   

Trine            Concordia Wisconsin      1:00 PM     Trine

Kalamazoo      Lakeland                      1:00 PM     Kalamazoo has a good spread offense, but they have to go a looooong way to Sheboygan... I'm gonna go with Lakeland.   

Alma         Aurora                      1:00 PM     Aurora gets their first win!   

Olivet         Rockford                      1:00 PM     Olivet in a close game...   

Albion      Benedictine              7:00 PM     Wont predict...    

Maranatha     Macalester              7:00 PM     Macalester

After looking at these match-ups, it seems like there is potential for some really good games... Good luck to everyones team!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 10, 2012, 11:45:51 PM
Hope at Concordia Chicago: I see this one going either way here too.

Adrian at Wisconsin Lutheran: WLC burned Olivet on the ground and in the air last week. Now the competition steps up for the Warriors as Adrian comes to Raabe Stadium. I think the Warriors get their first 3-0 start in program history in a shootout.
Go Warriors!! :D

Trine at Concordia Wisconsin: CUW hasn't won a non-con game in a while. Trine will continue that streak here.

Kalamazoo at Lakeland: Not really sold on Lakeland yet. K-Zoo in a close one.

Alma at Aurora I see another toss up here...Going with the home team.

Olivet at Rockford: Going with the team that has been a little more competitive here.

Albion at Benedictine: Albion shuts down BenU's star running back.

Maranatha at Macalester: Maranatha is heading for a very long final season in the NATHC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 13, 2012, 06:36:40 AM
WLCALUM83's MIAA/NAthCon guesses:

CUC
WLC in a tight one (the latest chapter in one of the Warriors' wildest old MIAA rivalries)
Trine
K-Zoo
Alma
Rockford
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on September 13, 2012, 11:13:26 AM
MIAA/NAC challenge picks:
Hope vs Concordia Chicago - Hope
Adrian vs Wisc. Lutheran - Could go either way WLC is a extremely improved team with really talented players Im going to go with WLC
KZOO vs Lakeland - KZOO should beat them with a strong passing game
Trine vs Concordia Wis. - Ive got trine but  this should be closer tahn most think
Alma vs Aurora - This one is goign to come down to turnovers IMO I think Alma might just be a bit more focused
Olivet vs Rockford - Rockford has the ability to beat them but I dont know if they believe that, Olivet in a close one
Albion vs BU - ALbion beat wheaton, there good but BU held NP to just over 100 yards. If their offense can pick it up and find other threats then Bu can pull off the win
Maranantha vs Macalester - Macalester

Good Luck to all NAC teams though hopefully we have more wins than losses in our conference.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 13, 2012, 11:16:40 AM
My guesses for this week's MIAA-NAC match-ups are a cut-and-paste job from the MIAA board:


(This is coming from a follower of a NAC team and, by association, the conference as a whole but living in MIAA land and following its teams as well . . .)

This is my list of games in order from most likely win for MIAA team descending to most difficult MIAA win.
(This is a relative scale. I frankly think the MIAA should be favored to win each game in the Challenge.)

1. Albion - Benedictine. This is the whole issue with the NAC -  similar to the problem the Big 10 faces in bowl season. They don't have a truly great, ligit power team. If you did, everyone in the weaker conference (the Big 10/NAC) would "slide down one" to play the next strongest team and have a somewhat better chance of a better showing in this type of set-up. I believe the BU has the best talent in the NAC, but Albion wins this.

2. Trine - CUW. Maybe I should heed the warning of a poster on the CCIW board about Trine's former dominance owing to one strong recruiting class a few years ago, but I'm still drinking the Kool-aid and thinking they're one of the top two or three teams in the MIAA and CUW has yet to prove that they can win a non-conference game much less being back to where they once were five or six years ago.

3. Hope - CUC. I'm not convinced about CUC's defense in a matchup like this. Actually, I have a whole essay about my feelings about this matchup that I will not bore you with.

4. Olivet - Rockford. Wait for it  . .  wait for it . . .    "But Olivet's terrible!" Rockford's, eh, maybe not as good as Olivet.


5. Kalamazoo - Lakeland. I know nothing about these two teams except their "history". K'zoo has not been strong whereas Lakeland used to be really, really good. But K'zoo does have two nice wins so far this year, so . . . K'zoo.

6. Adrian - WLC. I think that this game will be alot like CUC's game against Adrian last year: Adrian dominates physically but WLC hangs around. I wouldn't be surprised if WLC pulls it out, especially at home.

7. Alma - Aurora. I'm just basing this on Alma's getting blown out (albiet against two quality teams) and thinking that Aurora is probably one of the top three or four teams in the NAC.

Actual number of NAC wins prediction: 2 (An upgrade from my previous prediction.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 14, 2012, 11:18:16 AM
Defensive: Ben Lockton, Benedictine
Offensive: Josh Stodola, Wisconsin Lutheran
Special Teams: Donavin Tucker, Wisconsin Lutheran

Congrats to the week 2 players of the week!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 15, 2012, 06:05:13 PM
Sheesh, CUC puts up 63 on Hope, although their D gave up 47, that should be a concern....

Either way, CUC has the best offense (in my opinion) in the conference, defense needs a little work!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 15, 2012, 10:37:01 PM
BU WINNNNNNNNNS, Borsellino showed why he is an All American! The defense and lockton stepped up huge in the 2nd half what a gameeeeee! More analysis later!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 15, 2012, 11:30:38 PM
WLC loses to Adrian 31-23.

WLC was down 24-7 at halftime and could not get the ball rolling on offense. Zack Shaw threw two INT's that were turned into TD's later on. WLC defense stiffened in the second half and did not give Adrian much to work with. After getting a safety on a blocked punt, WLC pulled within 8 24-16 heading into the fourth, then Shaw threw his third INT when leading the offense downfield. Adrian converted that into another TD on the ensuing drive. WLC got within 8 again and had the ball driving into Adrian territory but the Bulldog D forced and recovered a fumble and iced the game. WLC lost the game as much as Adrian won the game IMO.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 16, 2012, 01:10:27 AM
The NATHCon wins the first round of the NATHC/MIAA Challenge 4-3.

Benedictine 32 Albion 28
Concordia Chicago 63 Hope 47
Adrian 31 Wisconsin Lutheran 23
Kalamazoo 31 Lakeland 24
Aurora 24 Alma 21
Concordia Wisconsin 13 Trine 10
Rockford 28 Olivet 12

Also Congrats to Rockford for ending their 22 game losing streak with the win today!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on September 16, 2012, 03:46:33 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 16, 2012, 01:10:27 AM
The NATHCon wins the first round of the NATHC/MIAA Challenge 4-3.

Benedictine 32 Albion 28
Concordia Chicago 63 Hope 47
Adrian 31 Wisconsin Lutheran 23
Kalamazoo 31 Lakeland 24
Aurora 24 Alma 21
Concordia Wisconsin 13 Trine 10
Rockford 28 Olivet 12

Also Congrats to Rockford for ending their 22 game losing streak with the win today!!

Isnt this 5-2? BUt congrats to all NAC teams showing that this is an upcoming conference!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 16, 2012, 07:07:34 PM
Quote from: irisheagle on September 16, 2012, 03:46:33 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 16, 2012, 01:10:27 AM
The NATHCon wins the first round of the NATHC/MIAA Challenge 4-3.

Benedictine 32 Albion 28
Concordia Chicago 63 Hope 47
Adrian 31 Wisconsin Lutheran 23
Kalamazoo 31 Lakeland 24
Aurora 24 Alma 21
Concordia Wisconsin 13 Trine 10
Rockford 28 Olivet 12

Also Congrats to Rockford for ending their 22 game losing streak with the win today!!

Isnt this 5-2? BUt congrats to all NAC teams showing that this is an upcoming conference!

My bad 5-2. That's why I am not a math major lol.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 17, 2012, 12:15:56 PM
Well, I'm pretty surprised by the results of the weekend. I hope that this gets the NAC a little respect anyhow. Shoutouts to:

- Benedictine for coming back from a 21 point deficit. They could have folded their tent but didn't and got a pretty impressive win.

- CUW for holding Trine to a mere 10 points and making a huge play at the end (?) to come up with the win.

- Aurora for also making a huge play in the end to come up with the win! (Could someone who was at the game explain the last possession for Alma? I couldn't figure it out based on the play-by-play or the summaries but it looked weird on the play-by-play; a long completion with a fumble with the ball recovered 30 yards behind where the pass was completed?

- CUC for getting the ball in the end zone a lot. (They needed all of those 63. Even when they had 56 the outcome was still very much in doubt.)

- Rockford for getting into the W column!

- Even in the losses, WLC and Lakeland were in it until the end.

The conference teams, players, and coaches should be proud of themselves! It makes for a competitive conference season that we all should be looking forward to.

And what has happened to the MIAA? In my mind they are and have historically been a pretty decent conference in football in which most of the teams consistently bring in to their programs all-conference and all-state type players from around the state of Michigan.

As I mentioned on the MIAA board, we'll see what happens next year when the NAC teams travel around the lake.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2012, 12:38:14 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 15, 2012, 10:37:01 PM
BU WINNNNNNNNNS, Borsellino showed why he is an All American! The defense and lockton stepped up huge in the 2nd half what a gameeeeee! More analysis later!

Perhaps at returner, or all-purpose. Not an All-American running back, though. (And remember, he was not an All-American at running back by the AFCA last year either, but as an all-purpose player.) Maybe he'll be able to run the ball on NATHC teams but he couldn't on Wheaton or Albion.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 17, 2012, 01:39:56 PM
WOW Pat, I have been coming on this board for a couple years now and don't quite get why you would say something like that, I was just trying to be supportive of our team and express how well John and the rest of the Eagles played Saturday night. I don't care how you want to classify him, running back, wide receiver, all purpose player... Whatever, the kid makes plays and helps his team WIN! That is the most important thing! Its fine if you don't think he is an all american RB, but don't try and take away what he did Saturday night to help his team WIN . He is an all american caliber player period, and put on an ALL AMERICAN performance end of story!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2012, 01:50:32 PM
I apologize for dropping a fact into your support. :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 17, 2012, 02:03:00 PM
Would you agree that there was not much running room in either the Wheaton or Albion game for any BU running back???  The O-line was not getting much of a push in the Wheaton or Albion game, so getting Borsellino and the rest of the gang the ball on the perimeter was the right thing to do.  I want to commend the coaches for putting our players in a position for them to succeed Sat night! This was a big win for our program so forgive me for my excitement lol!

Im not really trying to debate you Pat, because I really appreciate what you and the rest of the D3football.com staff do, i'm just trying to engage in discussion. There aren't many NAC posters so any time people wander on our board and want to discuss football is alright by me lol!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 17, 2012, 02:10:01 PM
Also Pat, I know you were at BU Saturday night, were you able to check out BU's new locker room?? If so, what did you think!?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2012, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 17, 2012, 02:03:00 PM
Would you agree that there was not much running room in either the Wheaton or Albion game for any BU running back???  The O-line was not getting much of a push in the Wheaton or Albion game, so getting Borsellino and the rest of the gang the ball on the perimeter was the right thing to do.  I want to commend the coaches for putting our players in a position for them to succeed Sat night! This was a big win for our program so forgive me for my excitement lol!

Im not really trying to debate you Pat, because I really appreciate what you and the rest of the D3football.com staff do, i'm just trying to engage in discussion. There aren't many NAC posters so any time people wander on our board and want to discuss football is alright by me lol!

It was definitely a big win and it was a great adjustment, more of what we saw a glimpse of in the Wheaton game. And I respect Borsellino as a player and all-around contributor whom you have to get the ball to, but to call him an All-American running back is a stretch. That is not where his value lies, in my opinion.

I did get to see the new building but not the locker room. I have heard great things, obviously.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: audad2011 on September 17, 2012, 04:21:45 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 17, 2012, 12:15:56 PM


- Aurora for also making a huge play in the end to come up with the win! (Could someone who was at the game explain the last possession for Alma? I couldn't figure it out based on the play-by-play or the summaries but it looked weird o the play-by=play; a long completion with a fumble with the ball recovered 30 yards behind where the pass was completed?



Alma threw a long pass down field with very little time remaining. The receiver for Alma made the catch and tried the old lateral it back stuff. The ball rolled around until AU recovered it.

My thoughts are that this was a VERY sloppy game as neither team looked confident in what they were doing. WAY too many mental and physical errors on BOTH sides of the field. The much talked about O-line for AU better get their stuff together or the Bevell kid is gonna end up hurt again. You would figure that 4 returning starters and a transfer from Bowling Green could protect the QB a ton better then what they did. Bevell took a lot of hits he didn't need to take. AU is young on D and they made a ton of mistakes but that Christmas kid is a stud.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 17, 2012, 10:45:08 PM
That is fine, I respect your opinion, but I also disagree with your opinion lol, I do think he is an All American caliber RB! BU was down in a hurry in this game and had to resort to passing the football to get back into the game.  The O-Line was also struggling to get a push against a very good D-Line from Albion.  I don't care who you are, if your O-line is not getting a push it is going to be tough to get many yards up the gut!  Borsellino also only had 7 carries, that is not enough touches to get into a rhythm in the run game, but like I said before due to the score, we had to abandon the run game and start hurling the rock!

Only two games this week in the NAC
Carthage vs. Lakeland, i'm taking Carthage
Milikin vs. Aurora, I'm taking Milikin

After this week it is on to conference play, good luck to the two teams playing this weekend!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 17, 2012, 10:47:58 PM
Congrats to the NAC players of the week and also to the NAC for winning the first ever NAC/MIAA challenge 5-2!

Rockford's Jacob Arnold, Concordia Chicago's Jake Koehler and Benedictine's John Borsellino were named the Northern Athletics Conference Defensive, Offensive and Special Teams Football Student-Athletes of the Week for events of Sept. 10-16.

Arnold (Plainfield, Ill.) made a key interception in Rockford's 28-12 win on Saturday, which snapped the Regents' 23-game losing streak. He intercepted a pass and took it 50 yards for a touchdown to put the Regents (1-2) up 21-6 in the third quarter. The junior defensive back also had four tackles in the win over Olivet.

Koehler (Belvidere, Ill.) led Concordia Chicago's offensive attack that notched a new single-game school record 650 yards in a 63-47 win over Hope. The senior quarterback tied the school record held by him and three other players with five touchdown passes. He was 21-of-29 for 386 yards and ran for 61 yards and a touchdown on 16 carries for the Cougars (3-0).

Borsellino (Oak Brook, Ill.) amassed 162 yards on kick returns, which included a 77-yard return for a score on a free kick following a safety for the game winning touchdown early in the fourth quarter. The Eagles (2-1) rallied for a 32-28 comeback win over Albion.

The three victories helped secure the NAC's 5-2 advantage over the Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association in the two leagues' inaugural "Challenge Series."
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on September 19, 2012, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 17, 2012, 10:45:08 PM
That is fine, I respect your opinion, but I also disagree with your opinion lol, I do think he is an All American caliber RB! BU was down in a hurry in this game and had to resort to passing the football to get back into the game.  The O-Line was also struggling to get a push against a very good D-Line from Albion.  I don't care who you are, if your O-line is not getting a push it is going to be tough to get many yards up the gut!  Borsellino also only had 7 carries, that is not enough touches to get into a rhythm in the run game, but like I said before due to the score, we had to abandon the run game and start hurling the rock!

Only two games this week in the NAC
Carthage vs. Lakeland, i'm taking Carthage
Milikin vs. Aurora, I'm taking Milikin

After this week it is on to conference play, good luck to the two teams playing this weekend!

I agree with both of you guys at some points. No John Borsellino wasn't a All American RB last year, but in my eyes to be an All American RB you have to have help from your Offensive Line, which is IMO BUs biggest weak spot. I do not think Borsellino has ever had a true oppertunity to become an All AMerican running back and I am afraid he will not get a chance this year either. If he was the running back for a team with a better offensive line such as Wheaton, Mount Union, or even Elmhurst I think he would have a much better chance at being in the running for that All American RB spot.

As for lakland and Aurora this weekend I do not think either will win, I think the only 2 teams that would be able to beat the bottom 2 of the CCIW teams would be BU and WLC maybe CUC on a good day against NP.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 19, 2012, 07:43:24 PM
Aurora (1-1) at Millikin (2-0): Millikin puts this one away early against an up and down Aurora team.

Lakeland (0-2) at Carthage (1-1): Carthage rebounds nicely after getting shut down by Wartburg. Lakeland goes 0-fer in non-con play for the second straight year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: sflzman on September 19, 2012, 10:16:06 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 17, 2012, 12:15:56 PM
- Aurora for also making a huge play in the end to come up with the win! (Could someone who was at the game explain the last possession for Alma? I couldn't figure it out based on the play-by-play or the summaries but it looked weird on the play-by-play; a long completion with a fumble with the ball recovered 30 yards behind where the pass was completed?

If nobody explained it to you yet, or you hadn't seen it, Alma tried to lateral it after the completion but Aurora pounced on it.  It actually was on the Aurora 20 (or 30, i can't remember what at this point) but whoever typed in stats mistakenly typed in the Alma side of the field.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2012, 08:24:53 PM
9/22 guesses:

Carthage over Lakeland
Aurora over Millikin
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 21, 2012, 12:59:54 PM
I am afraid I have to side with Pat here.

Though I love the NAC and graduated from CUC, I don't think really anyone in the conference is an "All American" player, whether they are playing in a big power conference or the NAC.  The competition and talent just isn't up to par with other conferences.  The Bears looked great against the Colts, Cutler looked like an MVP.   Put Green Bay out there and it obviously was a different story.

I know the NFL isn't D-III football, but I think it got the idea across.  Borselinno will put up huge numbers this year against NAC opponents, heck probably player of the year in my opinion.  But until we start winning some playoff games and going far into the post season, I just don't think anyone from the NAC will be considered.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 23, 2012, 12:07:06 AM
As expected

Carthage routed Lakeland 49-9

Milikin handled Aurora 44-20
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on September 24, 2012, 08:10:38 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 23, 2012, 12:07:06 AM
As expected

Carthage routed Lakeland 49-9

Milikin handled Aurora 44-20

I was hoping to see Lakeland keep that one a little closer than it was. I'm exited to see the conference battles this weekend, I think the three teams to watch are BU, CUC, and WLC. But I think hope is their for Aurora as well Bevell is a great QB that was doing great against the two time NAC champs BU and I think they would have pulled of that win without losing him. I still think BU is the conference favorite but if they start to get to big headed It wouldn't surprise me to see them finishing 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th. I remember last year when they were losing to rockfodr for a majority of the game. BUt if they can play like they did against North Park or second half of Albion I can see them beating every team by aat least 2 scores. They have a offense powered by Borsellino and the Shultz twins. And a Defense with Lockton, Sakal, Dickert, Davis, Buonavelanto, Theriot, Carpenter, and Kiel. I think their defense is the best in the conference no doubt and offensively they definitely have the skill players that can make plays when needed.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Zeus51 on September 24, 2012, 10:19:06 PM
Is it to Early to start Predictions for the Opening Week of NAC play? NO WAY!!!

This Weeks Games:

Benedictine VS Concordia Wisconsin......  I dont pick BenU games, but interested to see what CUW is like this year... This will probably be the closest game of the week!

Aurora VS Maranatha........................... AU wins by 2-3 Scores

Wisconsin Luthern VS Lakeland............. Wisconsin Luthern wins this one, payback from last year!

Concordia Chicago VS Rockford.............. CUC rolls rockford, offense puts up some points!

As always these are only my opinions.... Good luck to all teams and stay healthy!
Let the race for the NAC title begin!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 25, 2012, 11:45:06 PM
Benedictine VS Concordia Wisconsin: CUW won't score enough points to keep up with BU.

Aurora VS Maranatha: This could get ugly for Maranatha quickly here.

Wisconsin Lutheran VS Lakeland: If WLC can avoid hurting themselves with turnovers like they did against Adrian, they should win this one handily.

Concordia Chicago VS Rockford: CUC will have a field day against Rockford.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 26, 2012, 08:32:05 AM

Benedictine VS Concordia Wisconsin: I also do no not predict BU games.

Aurora VS Maranatha: AU

Wisconsin Lutheran VS Lakeland: WLC, I can see this being a pretty close game, however, WLC gets them at home which is a good thing!

Concordia Chicago VS Rockford: CUC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 27, 2012, 07:57:27 AM
My 9/29/12 guesses:

Benedictine
Aurora
CUC

Lakeland/WLC:  Somethin's gotta give here. The Muskes will want to redeem themselves after getting hammered by Carthage last week. However, A) its' the Warriors' Homecoming and B) WLC will have more motivation than usual to get out of the gate fast (they were playing from behind vs. Adrian 2 weeks ago.)

Pick-- WLC in a tight one.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on September 29, 2012, 09:59:42 AM
My pics

Aurora
Cuc
Bu
Wlc

All of these SHOULD be blowouts, benedictine should have a shutout with their defense .. I would be disapointed if they don't.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 29, 2012, 05:35:16 PM
WLC defeated Lakeland 27-17 on Homecoming!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 29, 2012, 05:45:42 PM
Concordia Chicago beats Rockford 48-10
Aurora beats Maranatha Baptist 55-14

Shocker of the day

Concordia Wisconsin upsets Benedictine 6-0
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: DadofBashWarrior.. on September 30, 2012, 03:21:10 PM
Benedictine lost...anyone have any comments on what happened???

I saw 3 of their games last year...I was surprised at the outcome as well as reading several posts predicting BU to win...


Anyone???
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 30, 2012, 06:31:17 PM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on September 30, 2012, 03:21:10 PM
Benedictine lost...anyone have any comments on what happened???

I saw 3 of their games last year...I was surprised at the outcome as well as reading several posts predicting BU to win...


Anyone???

One Word: Turnovers. Benedictine lost four fumbles and was intercepted twice despite getting over 400 yards of total offense.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 30, 2012, 07:35:54 PM
Northern Athletics Standings after Week 4

1. Concordia Chicago 4-0 (1-0)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 3-1 (1-0)
3. Aurora 2-2 (1-0)
4. Concordia Wisconsin 2-2 (1-0)
5. Benedictine 2-2 (0-1)
6. Rockford 1-3 (0-1)
7. Lakeland 0-4 (0-1)
8. Maranatha 0-4 (0-1)

Next week's conference games:

Maranatha at Concordia Wisconsin: Concordia opened a lot of eyes after shocking Benedictine are they in for a let down?
Rockford at Lakeland: Kinda odd to see Rockford with the better record here. Gut check for Lakeland here.
Benedictine at Aurora: Gut check for the defending NathCon champs. Aurora looks to hand the Eagles to their third straight conference loss.
Wisconsin Lutheran at Concordia Chicago: GOTW....Both teams still have to face Benedictine, but this is one of the games that could decide who becomes the conference champ this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 03, 2012, 02:44:29 PM
Week 5 Picks

Maranatha at Concordia Wisconsin: Well the Falcons opened many eyes after stunning Benedictine last week. They get their third straight win here against a struggling Maranatha team. Falcons 45 Crusaders 10

Rockford at Lakeland: Taking Lakeland here....Outside of beating a terrible Olivet team the Regents haven't shown me anything to think that they can a NATHC team other than Maranatha. Muskies 39 Regents 13

Benedictine at Aurora: The Eagles must be a little steamed after putting up 400+ yards of total offense in a 6-0 loss to CUW last week. That's what six turnovers can do to you. Aurora took Maranatha behind the woodshed last week. IMO Aurora is still a bit of a unknown team for me here. Eagles 34 Spartans 14

Wisconsin Lutheran at Concordia Chicago: One of a few matchups this season that could go a long way to decide the conference title. WLC rallied after getting behind against Lakeland early to match their best start in program history> The Cougar Express ran over Rockford to remain unbeaten. This has the makings of a shootout here and I think WLC's D gets one more stop to win this game. Warriors 31 Cougars 28
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 05, 2012, 04:22:51 PM
My picks for the weekend:

Maranatha at CUW: CUW steps up and takes what Benedictine gives them - a win. CUW's looking to get back to the ranks up the upper echelon after a couple of impressive wins, and Maranatha will not stand in their way. CUW

Benedictine at Aurora: Benedictine has really been up and down so far this year, but I think they take out their frustration of last week's turnoverfest against the Spartans this week. Benedictine

Rockford at Lakeland: Rockford's improving but not there yet. Lakeland

Wisconsin Lutheran at CUC: An important contest with the winner taking a big step toward the conference championship. I like Concordia's offense, but their defense is still not elite yet. I think that WLC is a solid all-around club. They couldn't win against a physical Adrian team, but I don't think CUC is as physical as Adrian. The winner of this game is the team that wins the turnover ledger. I see a close CUC win at home. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 05, 2012, 06:53:10 PM
My 10/6 guesses:

CUW
Aurora (my "against the grain" pick)
Lakeland  (Muskies are due to get a win, anyway)
WLC  in a tight one (Warriors, however, can't afford to get off to a slow start on the road.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on October 06, 2012, 11:03:03 AM
Benedictines loss last week was because of 6 to and the offense struggling to put it in in yhe red zone... Hopefully jonn gets more touches but I can still s ee them struggling against au ... Ill take bu in a close one though

Cuw will keep rollimg after their impressive win

Cuc will knock wlc out of first place in the race for the ring

Lakeland will have no problems against rockford
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 06, 2012, 02:19:32 PM
WLC with a stellar goal line stand to deny CUC a score and are at the CUC 32. Scoreless so far in the first.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 06, 2012, 04:49:01 PM
CUC gets a 80 yard pick-six from Matt Rolf with WLC driving late and down by 5 to salt the game away for Concordia, 21-9. WLC out-gained by Concordia by almost 100 yards but had two costly turnovers and 58 yards of penalties to CUC's 5. Big win for the Cougars.

Aurora pins a 41-30 loss on Benedictine giving BU two conferences already. If BU is going to repeat they are going to need a lot of help not to mention righting their own ship.

CUW takes care of business against Maranatha.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on October 06, 2012, 05:35:00 PM
Most likley bu will be playing for pride the rest of the season. Last week offense couldnt score .. This week defense let up 34 points. Once they put it together they will be great but right now their just average .. Even next sat against rockford might be a battle. More to come later, hats of to au though and a solid qb.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on October 11, 2012, 02:17:34 PM
CUC Cougars the lead in John Grochowski's Small Colleges column in the Chicago Sun-Times today: http://www.suntimes.com/sports/15681898-419/stepped-up-defense-key-for-concordia.html
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 12, 2012, 06:19:42 PM
Week 6 NAC Games

Lakeland at Maranatha: Muskies make it two in a row.

Rockford at Benedictine: Is Benedictine not as good as everyone thought they would be? They roll Rockford here.

Concordia Chicago at Concordia Wisconsin: CUC rallied to beat WLC in the 4th last week. CUW could make a huge statement if they could upend the Cougars here.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Aurora: Can't sugarcoat it.....WLC had CUC right where they wanted them. They were running the ball for 5, or 6 yards a carry on that drive after CUC went ahead 14-9 and were in the red zone. Then Shaw throws a pick six.....Ouch.....I'm still not 100% sold on Aurora yet after they beat Benedictine. I think with the impending weather forecast for tomorrow It'll stay on the ground and I think WLC bounces back.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 13, 2012, 09:03:20 AM
My week 6 guesses:

Lakeland
Benedictine
CUW (another "against the grain")
Aurora (A. the Warriors haven't won down there yet, and B.  they've had a bad case of the "ill-timed turnover blues" in both of their losses)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on October 13, 2012, 11:27:15 AM
 my picks:
Lakeland
Cuc
Benedictine
Aurora

aurora wlc should be the closest game. Game will depend on if wlc can stop aus passing attack
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 13, 2012, 05:11:03 PM
CUC & CUW going to OT tied at 44!

whoever loses falls into a 4-way tie for 2nd
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 13, 2012, 05:26:10 PM
Bad news for WLC --

CUC wins in OT  (so now the Warriors would have to finish ahead of the Cougars in conference standings to have any advantage on them--if it comes to that--)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 13, 2012, 06:28:13 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 13, 2012, 05:26:10 PM
Bad news for WLC --

CUC wins in OT  (so now the Warriors would have to finish ahead of the Cougars in conference standings to have any advantage on them--if it comes to that--)

CUC still has to play Aurora and Benedictine yet. Benedictine has had CUC's number the last few years and since Benedictine could be playing spoiler the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 13, 2012, 10:42:03 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 28 Aurora 14
Concordia Chicago 47 Concordia Wisconsin 44 (OT)
Lakeland 32 Maranatha 7
Benedictine 28 Rockford 0

Northern Athletics Conference Standings

1. Concordia Chicago 6-0 (3-0)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 4-2 (2-1)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 3-3 (2-1)
4. Aurora 3-3 (2-1)
5. Lakeland 2-4 (2-1)
6. Benedictine 3-3 (1-2)
7. Rockford 1-5 (0-3)
8. Maranatha 0-6 (0-3)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 14, 2012, 12:22:43 AM
Okay, while I was getting drenched watching Michigan-Illinois I missed some craziness in the CUW-CUC game. I'd like to hear commentary/explanations for the following:

1) After CUC scored a touchdown with 42 seconds to go in the half they got the ball back on a fumble recovery. They got down to the CUW 1 with 19 seconds left and then threw an incompletion. There was then a 5 yard penalty and a 10 second run-off for . . . illegal player participation? (The play-by-play doesn't say.) So they didn't even get off a field-goal attempt.

2) Just explain this:
- Breunig, H. punt -19 yards to the CUW14, Pasley, C.J. return 0 yards to the CUW14, fumble by Pasley, C.J. recovered by CUC Pasley, C.J. at CUW14, Pasley, C.J. for loss of 73 yards to the CUC13 (Castona, Jason).
The only thing I can imagine is Pasley scooped up a blocked punt, fumbled it, and then picked the ball back up and then ran the wrong way toward his own goal line . . . before getting tackled by a CUW player?

3) CUW missed a field goal late in regulation. After CUC took over on the 25 they got a short pass intercepted while on their own 27 yard line. CUW makes a first down and then gets another field goal attempt blocked at the end of regulation. What kind of short pass did CUC try to throw with 30 seconds left in regulation deep in their own end of the field? Tipped pass? Screen pass?

4) CUW got to the 2 in the first OT. On first down, CUC's Matt Rolf (hero of last week's CUC win over WLC) makes an interception in the end zone. Details?

5) On their OT possession, CUC got a run to the 3 called back (for unsportsmanlike conduct), then a TD called back (for holding) before hitting a 44 yard field goal to win.

Some interesting stats:
- Both QB's were 20-37 with two picks.
- CUC's Andrew Maddox ran 40 times for 355 yards to break Khyree Copeland's school record and set a conference record.
- CUC also set conference records for rushing yardage (495 yds.), total yardage (683 yds.), first downs (35), and first downs by rushing (24).

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on October 14, 2012, 01:38:56 AM
RF, I can enlighten you on the first two. On #1, Koehler brought the team to the line quickly to spike the ball, stop the clock and run one more play (probably FG attempt). But the penalty was false start (possibly a receiver not set), and with the clock under 10 seconds, that left the Cougars without any points there.

On #2, Pasley actually fielded the punt on his own 13 rather than CUW's 13. Call that a StatCrew input error which I'm sure will be corrected.

Definitely one of the wildest games I've ever seen, and this after CUC and Hope combined for 1300 yards of offense last month!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 18, 2012, 11:41:57 PM
10/19/12 Guesses:

Aurora/CUC:    Going with the Cougars-- their firepower on offense figures to be too much for the Spartans, imho.

Maranatha/Rockford:     Rockford

CUW/Lakeland:    CUW -- although a Muskie win wouldn't be a total shock if the Falcons are flat enough after last week's tough loss.

Benedictine/WLC:   Somethin's gotta give (again):  IL Eagles will be looking for redemption for last year's loss (that may have been a different story had the Eagles' last pass in that game been completed). Will a slow-down of Borsellino by the Warriors be enough this time? Going with WLC in a tight one at home-however if the Warriors get off to a slow start it could be a long afternoon for them--

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CougarNation21 on October 19, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
Rockford
Wisconsin Lutheran
Concordia Wisconsin
Concordia University Chicago 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 19, 2012, 11:50:00 PM
10/20 Picks

Rockford: Both teams duke it out once again for the Nath-con basement. Rockford has a win over a terrible Olivet team, while Maranatha got smoked in every game that they played.

Wisconsin Lutheran: WLC needs to get out strong like they did against Aurora last week. I think they get the job done and contain Borsellino.

Concordia Wisconsin: Big rivalry game between these two. CUW rebounds after nearly forcing a massive tie atop the standings.

Concordia Chicago: For the second consecutive week CUC ekes out a game to stay undefeated. Looking foward IMO CUC could represent the best chance to win the Nath-con's first playoff game. However, their defense could be their downfall.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 20, 2012, 04:46:26 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 14
Benedictine 2

Final

Sounds like the Warriors D hit the mute button on Borsellino and the Benedictine Offense. Benedictine got a late safety to get on the scoreboard.

Concordia Chicago 38
Aurora 34

Final

Cougars get another late key turnover return for a touchdown which was the difference here.

Rockford 7
Maranatha 7

3rd

Rockford denied Maranatha on a great goal line stand on the last drive.

Concordia Wisconsin 23
Lakeland 16

Final?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 20, 2012, 06:34:17 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 20, 2012, 04:46:26 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 14
Benedictine 2

Final

Sounds like the Warriors D hit the mute button on Borsellino and the Benedictine Offense. Benedictine got a late safety to get on the scoreboard.

Concordia Chicago 38
Aurora 34

Final

Cougars get another late key turnover return for a touchdown which was the difference here.

Rockford 7
Maranatha 7

3rd

Rockford denied Maranatha on a great goal line stand on the last drive.

Concordia Wisconsin 23
Lakeland 16

Final

Rockford 34
Maranatha 14

Final
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 21, 2012, 10:25:06 AM
Concerning CUC, when you have an offense that scores 40 pts/game, the defense better help out to get it done.  They did that with a big turnover TD like someone else said, so good to see.

Last test is Benedictine, who has had CUCs number in big games the last few years.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 22, 2012, 12:20:14 PM
Thoughts from the weekend's games:

- Rockford gets their second win of the season which is the most wins they have had in a season for the past ??? years. It is a good jumping off point on which to build for next season. Maranatha played Rockford tough for the first half but couldn't sustain for the entire game. I wish them blessings and the best of luck in their schedule next year. (Does anyone know what conference, if any, they will play next year?)

- I happened to catch the last few minutes of the CUW-Lakeland game on video, and a wild few minutes it turned out to be. I have to admit that the sight of the TD runback on the kickoff by CUW (right after Lakeland had tied the score but then missed the extra point) in the mud reminded me of watching a 1960's clip of an NFL guy slogging through the mud. For CUW they continue their resurgence and are looking for CUC to lose a couple of games. For Lakeland, they go through the ecstasy of scoring a TD to tie the score late with the prospect of kicking the winning XP, and the then the agony of missing the XP and then having ensuing kickoff run back for the winning score.

- Wisconsin Lutheran is somewhat in the same boat as CUW; they need CUC to lose a couple of games, but are playing quality football right now. Their defense is probably the stingiest in the conference (with arguments from CUW). Benedictine - two games in the conference so far where they haven't scored a touchdown? I'm curious what's going on there. They can play a spoiler in CUC's quest for the conference championship this weekend and have had the Cougars' number for the past number of years.

- CUC continues to find ways to win. Their pass defense looked lost against Bevel who was 27-33. The fumble recovery for a TD was huge, but otherwise the defense . . . yikes.  I mean, why else go for it on 4th and 2 from the Aurora 40 with 2 minutes to go in the game?( /shudder if they don't convert) However, CUC's calling card in offense, and they put up enough points to win. On to BU.
     Aurora, meanwhile, well, they did anything they wanted through the air. They have a chance to close strong and finish with a nice record.

By the way, Baseman, don't tell Lakeland or Maranatha that they aren't a test for CUC! (I know what you mean though. Benedictine has been the thorn in Concordia's side in every big game they have faced them for the past three years.)

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 24, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 22, 2012, 12:20:14 PM
Thoughts from the weekend's games:

- Rockford gets their second win of the season which is the most wins they have had in a season for the past ??? years. It is a good jumping off point on which to build for next season. Maranatha played Rockford tough for the first half but couldn't sustain for the entire game. I wish them blessings and the best of luck in their schedule next year. (Does anyone know what conference, if any, they will play next year?)

- I happened to catch the last few minutes of the CUW-Lakeland game on video, and a wild few minutes it turned out to be. I have to admit that the sight of the TD runback on the kickoff by CUW (right after Lakeland had tied the score but then missed the extra point) in the mud reminded me of watching a 1960's clip of an NFL guy slogging through the mud. For CUW they continue their resurgence and are looking for CUC to lose a couple of games. For Lakeland, they go through the ecstasy of scoring a TD to tie the score late with the prospect of kicking the winning XP, and the then the agony of missing the XP and then having ensuing kickoff run back for the winning score.

- Wisconsin Lutheran is somewhat in the same boat as CUW; they need CUC to lose a couple of games, but are playing quality football right now. Their defense is probably the stingiest in the conference (with arguments from CUW). Benedictine - two games in the conference so far where they haven't scored a touchdown? I'm curious what's going on there. They can play a spoiler in CUC's quest for the conference championship this weekend and have had the Cougars' number for the past number of years.

- CUC continues to find ways to win. Their pass defense looked lost against Bevel who was 27-33. The fumble recovery for a TD was huge, but otherwise the defense . . . yikes.  I mean, why else go for it on 4th and 2 from the Aurora 40 with 2 minutes to go in the game?( /shudder if they don't convert) However, CUC's calling card in offense, and they put up enough points to win. On to BU.
     Aurora, meanwhile, well, they did anything they wanted through the air. They have a chance to close strong and finish with a nice record.

By the way, Baseman, don't tell Lakeland or Maranatha that they aren't a test for CUC! (I know what you mean though. Benedictine has been the thorn in Concordia's side in every big game they have faced them for the past three years.)

I think Maranatha will be an independent for the time being. Not sure if the UMAC will take them back in.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 24, 2012, 08:10:32 PM
10/27 Picks

Concordia Chicago at Benedictine: Calling the upset here. CUC's offense has been able to outpace others on the scoreboard. However here Benedictine slows down that offensive machine enough while BU's offense takes advantage of that porous CUC defense.

Rockford at Concordia Wisconsin: Over by half.

Lakeland at Aurora: Aurora bounces back from a tight loss to CUC.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Maranatha: Could be just as ugly as the 61-0 smackdown that WLC delivered last year. WLC leads 7-0.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 24, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
10 27 guesses:

CUC     (putting my head above my heart on this one-though I wouldn't mind an IL Eagle win here).

CUW
Aurora
WLC     

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 27, 2012, 04:15:12 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 41
Maranatha 0

3rd

Aurora 21
Lakeland 10

3rd

Concordia Wisconsin 20
Rockford 3

3rd

Concordia Chicago 20
Benedictine 13

4th

Concordia Chicago stuffs Benedictine on a 4th and 1 on the CUC 16
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WisIllMich on October 27, 2012, 06:07:54 PM
CUC beats Benny 26-13.

Crazy game to be at...
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 27, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: WisIllMich on October 27, 2012, 06:07:54 PM
CUC beats Benny 26-13.

Crazy game to be at...

Please do tell.  Box scores only tell so much. . . besides two missed chip-shot field goals, three missed extra points, three picks (one returned for a TD) by Benedictine in the first half, a CUC red-zone stand (denying BU on 3rd and 4th and 1), more end-of-half high-jinks that bites CUC (BU goes for a TD on CUC's 10 with 6 seconds to go in the half that went for a TD.) Missing anything?   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: DadofBashWarrior.. on October 27, 2012, 11:35:47 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 27, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: WisIllMich on October 27, 2012, 06:07:54 PM
CUC beats Benny 26-13.

Crazy game to be at...

Please do tell.  Box scores only tell so much.
yes...am interested to hear as well..


Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on October 31, 2012, 02:22:50 PM
The Concordia-Chicago Cougars are #2 in the North Region. http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/d3/regional_rankings
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2012, 02:23:42 PM
Link people here -- they can discuss it here.
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2012/10/31/first-2012-ncaa-regional-rankings/
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Look It Up on October 31, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Thanks Pat. I feel like Hawkeye in the one episode of M*A*S*H - "forgive us, we're draftees."
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 31, 2012, 06:02:43 PM
11/3 Games

Lakeland (2-6, 2-3) at Concordia Chicago (8-0, 5-0): Don't think Lakeland has the horses to stay with Concordia Chicago here.

Rockford (2-6, 1-4) at Wisconsin Lutheran (6-2, 4-1): Wisconsin Lutheran gets their program best 7th win in a rout against Rockford.

Concordia Wisconsin (5-3, 4-1) at Aurora (4-4, 3-2): Only game which could be close. I think CUW defense holds Aurora offense in check in this one.

Maranatha (0-8, 0-5) at Benedictine (4-4, 2-3): Benedictine goes back above .500 with the blowout win against Maranatha.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2012, 08:50:17 PM
Quote from: Look It Up on October 31, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Thanks Pat. I feel like Hawkeye in the one episode of M*A*S*H - "forgive us, we're draftees."

Love a good M*A*S*H reference!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 01, 2012, 09:18:24 PM
My 11/3 guesses:

CUC
WLC
Aurora
Benedictine
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 02, 2012, 05:55:40 PM
Quote from: Look It Up on October 31, 2012, 02:22:50 PM
The Concordia-Chicago Cougars are #2 in the North Region. http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/d3/regional_rankings

Do not get too excited about that ranking.  It does not take anything into account except record.  I feel the D3football rankings and AFCA coach's are much more accurate.  Good for the Cougars, regardless.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: CougarNation21 on November 02, 2012, 08:02:25 PM
Cougars will roll to victory ! Defense has made big plays in big moments for them all season I think this gives the defense a chance to try fine some kind of good groove going into these last two games and into the playoffs !!!

WLC Rockford is just bad

CUW over AU because of their big play ability

BU over a man Maranatha team

GO Cougs !
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 03, 2012, 04:23:21 PM
CUC takes out Lakeland 37 - 3 and claims the NAC spot in the DIII playoffs.

/can't believe those words would ever be spoken and passes out
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 03, 2012, 05:25:21 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 0 7 14 13: 34
Rockford 0 7 7 0: 14

Final

Very sloppy game for both sides (both sides combined for nine turnovers). Rockford got on the board first with a blocked field goal returned for a TD. Mike Reeves tied it up with his first of a new school record four TD's. Rockford retook the lead on a big pass play early in the third. Reeves found pay dirt again to tie it up at 14. WLC took the lead for good with Reeves again on the next WLC possesion and added two more scores in the 4th to ice it. WLC QB Zack Shaw was knocked out of the game with what looked to be a shoulder injury. He did not return to the game.

Concordia Wisconsin 45
Aurora 31

Final

Benedictine 34
Maranatha 6

Final
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 03, 2012, 09:01:13 PM
Northern Athletics Conference Standings as of 11/3/12

1. Concordia Chicago X 9-0 (6-0)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 7-2 (5-1)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 6-3 (5-1)
4. Aurora 4-5 (3-3)
5. Benedictine 4-5 (3-3)
6. Lakeland 2-7 (2-4)
7. Rockford 2-7 (2-4)
8. Maranatha 0-9 (0-6)

Congrats to Concordia Chicago on clinching the Nath-con auto bid.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 03, 2012, 09:42:02 PM
Now, with NCC's loss to Wheaton, CUC might keep their regional #2 rank and possibly crack into one of the other two rankings.  I think they would break through the AFCA poll before D3football mainly since d3football's poll is much more in touch with D-III in general.

Here's to hoping.  Good luck next week, Cougs and in the first round of the Playoffs.  It would be something if the Cougars get the first playoff win for the conference (easier said then done).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on November 04, 2012, 10:27:56 PM
CUC has been ranked in the AFCA pool the past two weeks, most recently at #22.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WisIllMich on November 05, 2012, 12:48:24 AM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on October 27, 2012, 11:35:47 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 27, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: WisIllMich on October 27, 2012, 06:07:54 PM
CUC beats Benny 26-13.

Crazy game to be at...

Please do tell.  Box scores only tell so much.
yes...am interested to hear as well..

sorry for the late response, however:

I was mainly referring to the atmosphere of the game, and some events in the stands.
I guess some Benedictine fans were not too happy that Concordia traveled well.

There were two incidents in particular that stood out:
1st: Early in the firstf a fight broke out in the stands with a supposed ex-cougar and a rumored to be relative of a star Benedictine player. However, I cannot confirm anything.

2nd: At the end of the 4th quarter, when the game was already won, a certain star play on Benedictine was seen yelling back and forth with a section of the Concordia fan section. He needed teammates and coaches to calm him down.


Also, what do people think the odds are that Concordia Chicago gets a home game for their first playoff game? I have seen rumors of opponents of Adrian or Lake Forest.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2012, 02:51:49 AM
Sounds like those people read our bracketology on Friday.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 05, 2012, 08:11:45 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2012, 02:51:49 AM
Sounds like those people read our bracketology on Friday.

Yes, I plagiarized a bit.  You know imitation is the highest form of flattery.  Keep up the good work, Pat!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 05, 2012, 11:05:47 AM
Quote from: WisIllMich on November 05, 2012, 12:48:24 AM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on October 27, 2012, 11:35:47 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 27, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: WisIllMich on October 27, 2012, 06:07:54 PM
CUC beats Benny 26-13.

Crazy game to be at...

Please do tell.  Box scores only tell so much.
yes...am interested to hear as well..

sorry for the late response, however:

I was mainly referring to the atmosphere of the game, and some events in the stands.
I guess some Benedictine fans were not too happy that Concordia traveled well.

There were two incidents in particular that stood out:
1st: Early in the firstf a fight broke out in the stands with a supposed ex-cougar and a rumored to be relative of a star Benedictine player. However, I cannot confirm anything.

2nd: At the end of the 4th quarter, when the game was already won, a certain star play on Benedictine was seen yelling back and forth with a section of the Concordia fan section. He needed teammates and coaches to calm him down.


Also, what do people think the odds are that Concordia Chicago gets a home game for their first playoff game? I have seen rumors of opponents of Adrian or Lake Forest.

I think CUC has a good shot of getting at least one home game in the playoffs. I think Adrian and/or Lake Forest will be good matchups for them. Adrian wrapped up the MIAA crown this weekend with a overtime win against Albion. CUC has to contain their running back who gave WLC fits to stop him for a minimal gain when they played in the NAC/MIAA challenge in week 3. CUC beat Lake Forest already in the opener, but it's harder to beat the same team twice in a season. Plus, the MWC could become a logjam if Lake Forest loses their next game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 07, 2012, 05:20:07 PM
Week of 11/10 Matchups

Concordia Chicago at Maranatha
Aurora at Rockford
Benedictine at Lakeland
Wisconsin Lutheran at Concordia Wisconsin

Concordia Chicago at Maranatha: Congrats to the Cougars for clinching the Northern Athletics Conference title last week!! Priess has done wonders for that program in River Forest. Maranatha's long and tenure in the Nath-Con finally comes to a merciful end. CUC shows Maranatha the door in a blowout win.

Aurora at Rockford: Rockford has a defense that can punch offenses in the mouth. WLC saw that first hand in the first half last week. However Aurora's offense overpowers the Regents in this one. I think Rockford is steadily improving year by year.

Benedictine at Lakeland: Two teams with disappointing seasons face off here. I was thinking Lakeland would factor in the conference a little more this year, but it didn't turn out that way. Benedictine has been the bigger disappointment as a whole this year. I thought they would be very much in the heart of the conference chase but they were a major letdown this year. Borselino has a big day in his final game as an Eagle and BU finishes 5-5.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Concordia Wisconsin: The 5th edition of the Lutheran Bowl will determine who will finish 2nd in the conference. Both teams have good defenses and offenses that score in bunches. WLC emerged from the Rockford game a little nicked up at the QB position after Shaw left the game with a shoulder injury. The big question for Coach Miller is who will start the game for WLC? CUW has a solid QB that can throw the ball going up against a WLC D that has shut down the passing attack all season. Even though I'm Missouri Synod I am going with the WELS school that I attend  ;).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: GRIZ_BACKER on November 07, 2012, 05:31:17 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 05, 2012, 11:05:47 AM
Quote from: WisIllMich on November 05, 2012, 12:48:24 AM
Quote from: DadofBashWarrior.. on October 27, 2012, 11:35:47 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 27, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: WisIllMich on October 27, 2012, 06:07:54 PM
CUC beats Benny 26-13.

Crazy game to be at...



Please do tell.  Box scores only tell so much.
yes...am interested to hear as well..

sorry for the late response, however:

I was mainly referring to the atmosphere of the game, and some events in the stands.
I guess some Benedictine fans were not too happy that Concordia traveled well.

There were two incidents in particular that stood out:
1st: Early in the firstf a fight broke out in the stands with a supposed ex-cougar and a rumored to be relative of a star Benedictine player. However, I cannot confirm anything.

2nd: At the end of the 4th quarter, when the game was already won, a certain star play on Benedictine was seen yelling back and forth with a section of the Concordia fan section. He needed teammates and coaches to calm him down.


Also, what do people think the odds are that Concordia Chicago gets a home game for their first playoff game? I have seen rumors of opponents of Adrian or Lake Forest.

I think CUC has a good shot of getting at least one home game in the playoffs. I think Adrian and/or Lake Forest will be good matchups for them. Adrian wrapped up the MIAA crown this weekend with a overtime win against Albion. CUC has to contain their running back who gave WLC fits to stop him for a minimal gain when they played in the NAC/MIAA challenge in week 3. CUC beat Lake Forest already in the opener, but it's harder to beat the same team twice in a season. Plus, the MWC could become a logjam if Lake Forest loses their next game.

Franklin will be glad to come up there. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 07, 2012, 10:46:04 PM
Well, this season definitely did not work out the way I had thought it would for BU, with all that talent and returning players coming back I thought for sure they would have been playing for the conference championship this year! 

I have been in a bit of a depression this season after seeing such a talented team not live up to their potential.  I attribute our lack of offensive success this season to the fact that this is our 3rd offensive coordinator in the last 3 seasons! Now, i'm not going to make excuses, but that is tough on the men on the offensive side of the ball, learning three different systems over the last three years! it is hard to build continuity when we can't keep an OC at BU!  It will be tough to watch these Seniors play their last game on Saturday as they have been so vital to turning BU into a program that players and alumni can be proud of!  I will especially miss watching Borsellino do his thing week in and week out, he was really something special to watch on the football field and was a program changer for BU.   

On the other side, defensively BU has been very good ALL YEAR, on the defensive side of the ball I would say they have played 3 bad games... Wheaton, the 1st half of Albion, the entire AU game, and the 2nd half of CUC, other then that, they have been stellar all year long and I see that unit being very good for the next few years as they have very talented underclassmen.  Lockton will also be missed from this unit next year and I will miss watching him tear up opposing offenses!

Thank you to ALL OUR BU seniors who will be playing their last game as an EAGLE, you have all been so instrumental to BU's success over the last four years.  Congratulations to all of you!  Also congratulations to the other NAC seniors who will be playing their final games.  Congrats to CUC and good luck in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 08, 2012, 09:05:29 AM
My 11/10 guesses:

CUC/Maranatha:   Cougars 
Aurora/Rockford:  Spartans in a tight one.
Benedictine/Lakeland:  Eagles (Borsellino & Co. end on a high note)
WLC/CUW:   Falcons (moreso if Shaw is out--still, Warriors have had a better year all the same).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 08, 2012, 10:38:12 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on November 08, 2012, 09:05:29 AM
My 11/10 guesses:

CUC/Maranatha:   Cougars 
Aurora/Rockford:  Spartans in a tight one.
Benedictine/Lakeland:  Eagles (Borsellino & Co. end on a high note)
WLC/CUW:   Falcons (moreso if Shaw is out--still, Warriors have had a better year all the same).

I've seen Shaw around campus and he seems to be fine. Still unsure if he'll play, if he does not start I think Dyerson will get the nod over Youngbeck. Wideout Caleb Wolf looks to be out, he has been on crutches with his left leg in a boot so far this week.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 09, 2012, 07:19:32 AM
Latest projections has CUC against Bethel...UGGGGGG!!!  Bethel is in that brutally tough Minnisota conference.  I would rather see Adrian....We played them tough last year.  Well, I guess we will have to wait until Sunday.  Good luck to all teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 09, 2012, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: lem4094 on November 09, 2012, 07:19:32 AM
Latest projections has CUC against Bethel...UGGGGGG!!!  Bethel is in that brutally tough Minnisota conference.  I would rather see Adrian....We played them tough last year.  Well, I guess we will have to wait until Sunday.  Good luck to all teams this weekend.

To earn respect you have to beat the teams that are tough. I think Concordia can do it and give the Nath-Con some respect in football.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 09, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
Quote from: lem4094 on November 09, 2012, 07:19:32 AM
Latest projections has CUC against Bethel...UGGGGGG!!!  Bethel is in that brutally tough Minnisota conference.  I would rather see Adrian....We played them tough last year.  Well, I guess we will have to wait until Sunday.  Good luck to all teams this weekend.

Yeah, CUC is frankly going to have their hands full with whoever they draw, but I guess I'd rather see Adrian than some of those other outfits there, primarily because, while I thought Adrian was just physically better on the lines last year (It was the first game CUC was breaking in two totally raw O linemen after losing Pinnella and ?? in the Chicago game.) I think they match up a little better with them, and I don't think it has a great a possibility of getting out of hand as it might against the likes of NCC or Bethel or some of those folks. (Every team in that bracket should not want to see the Cardinals very soon.)

While I'm at it . . .
CUC over Maranatha

Aurora over Rockford (who I believe is improving)

Benedictine over Lakeland

CUW over WLC although this may depend upon Shaw's availability. CUW should be looking at their CUC game and shaking their heads. They just HAD that game in hand and managed to derp it up about three times. (Fun fact: Maddox's 355 yards in that game is the NCAA all-division high in rushing yards so far this year.)

You often need a bit of luck (some may call it "heroic plays" however) to win a championship, and CUC has finally gotten some this year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 10, 2012, 11:05:20 AM
My heart definitely wants CUC to win their first playoff game ever, I did go there, I think anyone wants their Alma Mater to win, but my head tells me differently.

I just don't think they will be able to hang with whoever the draw is, especially if it turns out to be Bethel.  NAC teams just don't have enough firepower yet.  I am hoping if CUC keeps doing what they are doing, in a few years they will be able to win some playoff games.

Now, with that being said, I hope they prove me wrong.  I do plan on attending the game and no matter the outcome, it's great to see how football has evolved at CUC since Pries took over.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 11, 2012, 06:07:34 PM
CUC gets to face Bethel (MN) at home for the first round of the playoffs. The winner of this game gets to play the winner of the UW-Oshkosh/St. Scholastica game.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 11, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
Final Regular Season Northern Athletics Conference Standings

1. Concordia Chicago 10-0 (7-0)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 7-3 (6-1)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 7-3 (5-2)
4. Aurora 5-5 (4-3)
5. Benedictine 5-5 (3-4)
6. Lakeland 2-8 (2-5)
7. Rockford 2-8 (1-6)
8. Maranatha 0-10 (0-7)

Looking forward a little, here is the potential lineup for the Nath-Con/MIAA Challenge next year.

Concordia Chicago (10-0) at Adrian (9-1)
Concordia Wisconsin (7-3) at Trine (7-3)
Wisconsin Lutheran (7-3) at Hope (5-5)
Aurora (5-5) at Albion (6-4)
Benedictine (5-5) at Kalamazoo (5-5)
Lakeland (2-8) at Alma (1-9)
Rockford (2-8) at Olivet (0-10)

Also looking ahead with Maranatha leaving the conference, that leaves all the Nath-Con teams looking to schedule one additional non-conference game. Doubt any of the teams will be willing to keep the Crusaders on the schedules.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2012, 11:25:29 PM
Rockford might.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 12, 2012, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2012, 11:25:29 PM
Rockford might.

Wouldn't be surprised if they did. They were the only Nath-Con team that either team was competitive with in the last four seasons.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WisIllMich on November 13, 2012, 12:13:14 PM
Don't like the match-up that CUC drew.

Brethel is a hard nosed, grind it out team. CUC might struggle stopping the run, especially with one of their Mike linebackers out for the season (Andrew Gleason). Not sure if Bethel's defense is athletic enough to stop the Cougar offense though. Wouldn't be surprised if this game came down to better coaching.

What are people's thoughts on all conference honors?

Any interest in creating a "message-board" all conference team?
We could nominate players, and then accumulate votes from all of the posters and create a team.
Just an idea to keep some activity on the boards.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 14, 2012, 06:26:36 AM
All-conference team "locks' -- imho:

WLC -- WR Josh Stodola (3 POTW awards)
CUC -- QB Jake Koehler (2 POTW awards)

Other players likely to receive accolades :

Benedictine  DL-- Ben Lockton, RB John Borsellino
WLC -- QB Zack Shaw, RB Donavin Tucker  (RB Reeves ???)
CUC -- RB Andrew Maddox

(All except Reeves got conference POTW awards, Reeves stepped it up a bit more toward the end of the season).

Who else gets on from "relatively under the radar?" 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 14, 2012, 11:55:30 AM
I would agree on all the names you have listed above. I would include Rolf from CUC at DB. I know they don't usually give out first team all-conference awards to teams in last place in the conference, but Ethan Lane from Maranatha often goes both ways and usually seems to have about 12+tackles in a game, and I think he deserves accolades.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on November 14, 2012, 12:49:47 PM
Lane should be on the list somewhere (towards the top imo).  He was co defensive player of the year last year. I also agree with the bu players u put .. Both have recieved several all star games, regional combine, and pro day invites from what I heard. Possibly also chris buonavelento at MLB he was second after lockton on total tackles and also recieved some invites with the other two. But I do think that that might be it for the BU team, the oline did horrible, and WR were okay at best you may see shultz on there somewhere, defensivly they were ranked 14 in the nation so you may see some others on there from defense, possible dottelis, or stalarski I belive he had 6 picks. I also think that the aurora qb bevell will be up there and imo is the best qb in the conference, also all starting wr and rb for cuc should be up there somewhere, they are deffinitly a offensive team with there strength in  the skill players. The qb for them is also right there with jimmy bevell.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 16, 2012, 06:12:44 PM
NAthCon 2012 Football Awards here:

http://www.northernac.org/sports/fball/2012-13/releases/201211160vvtrp
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WisIllMich on November 17, 2012, 01:12:04 PM
I'll try to update the CUC vs Bethel game for those not watching.

Bethel wins the toss and decides to receive.
CUCs kickoff team is awful so they pop the kick up. Bethel can't handle it and CUC recovers. Concordia has a wide open pass, but it's dropped. Koehler then throws a pick on 4th down. Bethel then goes 3-and-out. CUC gets the ball back and gets some yards, until Koehler goes deep to Jamal Thomas, but it is intercepted. Usually Jamal can make a play over a corner, but Bethels corner made a great play.

Bethel now has the ball.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WisIllMich on November 17, 2012, 01:30:35 PM
End of 1st. Still 3-0. Bethel has the ball near midfield.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 17, 2012, 03:39:02 PM
CUC loses a heartbreaker after rallying from a 24-10 4th quarter deficit. Potential game winning 2 point conversion was deflected away.

Bethel 24
Concordia Chicago 23

Great season CUC!!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 17, 2012, 04:57:23 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 17, 2012, 03:39:02 PM
CUC loses a heartbreaker after rallying from a 24-10 4th quarter deficit. Potential game winning 2 point conversion was deflected away.

Bethel 24
Concordia Chicago 23

Great season CUC!!!!

This matchup turned out to be better than the routs of previous seasons. Hopefully, this will lead to a bit more respect for  NAthCon football in the future.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 17, 2012, 09:55:58 PM
Wow, what a finish and a great comeback.

Congrats to CUC for their season, almost pulled it off against an excellent Bethel team from an excellent conference.  Hopefully they can build on this and next year be in the same boat and maybe win a first round playoff game for the NAC.

You figure CUC has to be the favorite for next year to win the NAC!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 18, 2012, 10:01:22 PM
Idk if CUC will be the favorite to win the NAC, from what I have seen they are losing a LOT of KEY talent on both O and D.  Most notably, their QB and best wideout... Defensively they are also losing a lot of talent.  If i had to guess I would say CUW would be the favorite going into 2013.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 19, 2012, 07:37:29 AM
Great game Saturday....CUC had their chances early, but when it is the playoffs, close enough will not get you a win.  Dropped TD pass, a dropped INT for BU TD and 2 INTs in the beginning of the first proved costly, although, they did not quit or come close to wavering.  I do not believe there were too many people upset for going for 2 at the end.  I personnaly thought it was the right thing to do...BU was looking a bit shell-shocked and it seemed their back was upon the ropes at the time...Give it to that BU DB for making a play when it was his time to step up, whereas, the Cougs dropped their chances.

Great year, regardless.  It is also great to have the program doing so well when only about 15 years ago, the school contemplated shutting it down.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 19, 2012, 04:44:10 PM
     First of all, the confession: When CUC clinched their first ever playoff berth a couple weeks ago, I thought to myself, "I know coaches never say this . . . They never say, 'We're just glad to be here.' No, they say, 'We might be underdogs, but we believe in ourselves. We have every intention to win this game.' "
     Well I was thinking, "Are you kidding me? Not long ago, from 1993 through 2006, this program won an average of one game per season for a 14 year period! They were very close to shutting down the program! Are you kidding me? I'm just glad to be here!"
     Last Friday night as I was laying in bed, the thought that kept coming into my sleepless mind was, "Bethel? Ughh. This could get ugly. Please don't be embarrassed. Please make it respectable."

     At about 2:30 p.m. on a gorgeous November Saturday afternoon total strangers were coming up to each other in the post-game tailgate area in front of the pillars at Concordia-Chicago asking basically two questions: What do you think about the decision? Go for two or play for overtime? What about the play they called?

     All I could think was, "Are you kidding me? We had taken the best shots from one of the really quality DIII football programs in the country all afternoon and with 18 seconds I along with about 2000 other people were on our feet to watch the last piece of  a drama unfold in one of the most exciting college football games you could ever watch. (And I was n the University of Michigan Stadium the previous Saturday for the Michigan-Northwestern game, by the way.) Are you kidding me? We could have won that game! Oh me of little faith. In Lonnie we trust."

     I have never been as proud of a group of young men and their coaches as I have been this year of Concordia - River Forest's Cougars football team. Thank you to all of them and to Coach Pries and his staff.



     



     

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 19, 2012, 05:30:56 PM
Now for the game recap.  ::)

What a game. Bethel is a really good football team. As mentioned above, CUC had opportunities to increase their chances of winning the game, but football often comes down to three or four plays and how they are played out usually determines the outcomes of close games. CUC had some breaks or big plays go their way in some of their regular season games this year (vs. WLC, Chicago, and CUW come to mind) and the fumble through the endzone in the 4th quarter last Saturday certainly was important, but Bethel made most of the big plays and took home the win (not undeservedly).

- Big plays:

1) Without the benefit of replay or film, I wonder if Koehler's two interceptions in the first quarter weren't caused in part by the speed of the LB's and DB's of Bethel. They just don't have that overall team defensive speed in the NAC. In addition, while CUC's receivers were able to gain over 300 yards through the air, they never got a lot of YAC that they often got in the regular season. Once they caught the ball there wasn't much running room.

2) Both teams went for it on 4th and long in the red zones. Bethel scored a touchdown in a situation that I really felt that the CUC players thought Bethel was going to attempt a field goal. The DB's seemed a little "unset" at the snap, and it just didn't look good for them from the start. However when CUC went for it towards the end of the 3rd, the Bethel DB was just too quick to the ball. Hindsight is 20-20, and I can see why they went for it at the time (down by 14 with less than 20 minutes to play and Bethel moving the ball well.), but I was hoping CUC would try a field goal in that situation.

3) On the halfback pass for the touchdown, Concordia went from bad luck (CB came up for a split second on the original pass allowing the WR to get behind him a little) to good luck (ball slightly underthrown) to bad luck (ball tipped by the CB into the hands of the WR who goes into the endzone.)

4) I thought Concordia's defense did a pretty good really good job of limiting Bethel on offense all things considered. They were a bend-but-don't-break outfit and never (besides a long run TD run that was called back for a holding call) got burned for big plays.

5) As difficult as it was for Maddox to break running plays into the second level (darn LB and DB speed), Koehler gashed them pretty well with passes in the seams. I am curious if that was the most passing yardage Bethel has given up this year.

All in all, it was an exciting football game and my hat is off to the Cougars. There are no moral victories (they say) in football, but they had nothing to be ashamed of and represented the conference as well as any team has in the history of the conference or its predecessors.

As to the comments about next season, CUC is losing a LOT of talent. My count is five offensive (two linemen, two receivers, and the conference offensive POY at QB) and five defensive players (DE, two LB's, and two DB's). That is going to be tough to replace with players of equal quality, but such is the nature of football. Also, in this conference, you need to wait for training camps to be completed before you really know what you have for next year.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on November 19, 2012, 04:44:10 PM
     First of all, the confession: When CUC clinched their first ever playoff berth a couple weeks ago, I thought to myself, "I know coaches never say this . . . They never say, 'We're just glad to be here.' No, they say, 'We might be underdogs, but we believe in ourselves. We have every intention to win this game.' "
     Well I was thinking, "Are you kidding me? Not long ago, from 1993 through 2006, this program won an average of one game per season for a 14 year period! They were very close to shutting down the program! Are you kidding me? I'm just glad to be here!"
     Last Friday night as I was laying in bed, the thought that kept coming into my sleepless mind was, "Bethel? Ughh. This could get ugly. Please don't be embarrassed. Please make it respectable."

     At about 2:30 p.m. on a gorgeous November Saturday afternoon total strangers were coming up to each other in the post-game tailgate area in front of the pillars at Concordia-Chicago asking basically two questions: What do you think about the decision? Go for two or play for overtime? What about the play they called?

     All I could think was, "Are you kidding me? We had taken the best shots from one of the really quality DIII football programs in the country all afternoon and with 18 seconds I along with about 2000 other people were on our feet to watch the last piece of  a drama unfold in one of the most exciting college football games you could ever watch. (And I was n the University of Michigan Stadium the previous Saturday for the Michigan-Northwestern game, by the way.) Are you kidding me? We could have won that game! Oh me of little faith. In Lonnie we trust."

     I have never been as proud of a group of young men and their coaches as I have been this year of Concordia - River Forest's Cougars football team. Thank you to all of them and to Coach Pries and his staff.

+1
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 19, 2012, 09:14:31 PM
Question to Pat,

Do you believe CUC earned any substancial credability (for themselves or the NATHC) with the game this past Saturday?  If CUC is able to replace the line and skill players lost after this year and make another run this or next year, will they possibly break into the D3football.com top 25 barrier?

Just wondering
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2012, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: lem4094 on November 19, 2012, 09:14:31 PM
Question to Pat,

Do you believe CUC earned any substancial credability (for themselves or the NATHC) with the game this past Saturday?  If CUC is able to replace the line and skill players lost after this year and make another run this or next year, will they possibly break into the D3football.com top 25 barrier?

Just wondering

Lem -- sounds like something we discussed on the Around the Nation podcast this morning. :)

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2012/11/19/atn-podcast-when-surprise-isnt-surprise/
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 20, 2012, 08:11:55 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2012, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: lem4094 on November 19, 2012, 09:14:31 PM
Question to Pat,

Do you believe CUC earned any substancial credability (for themselves or the NATHC) with the game this past Saturday?  If CUC is able to replace the line and skill players lost after this year and make another run this or next year, will they possibly break into the D3football.com top 25 barrier?

Just wondering

Lem -- sounds like something we discussed on the Around the Nation podcast this morning. :)

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2012/11/19/atn-podcast-when-surprise-isnt-surprise/

Thank you.  Great show.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 20, 2012, 02:55:33 PM
Yes I agree, excellent podcast, well done,

Pat, though I do want your opinion on Mount Union, and if this is a question for another board tell me.

University of Sioux Falls was the "Mount Union" of the NAIA, they won a ton of national championships, always in the playoffs and rarely lost.  And it seems looking at the scores and how Mount Union played in the first round, they are on their way to another D-III championship.

Anyhow, Sioux Falls made the move to NCAA D-II and were 9-2 this year, so they held their own.

Any reason why Mount Union hasn't moved up to NCAA D-II?  Or even the FCS, it seems they could do well even at that level.  I mean, just looking at the scores from Mount Union this year it didn't even look fair.  Not saying there is anything wrong with that.  But as a school, wouldn't you want your dominate football team to move up and get even better and more national recognition?

Just curious,
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 20, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 20, 2012, 02:55:33 PM
Yes I agree, excellent podcast, well done,

Pat, though I do want your opinion on Mount Union, and if this is a question for another board tell me.

University of Sioux Falls was the "Mount Union" of the NAIA, they won a ton of national championships, always in the playoffs and rarely lost.  And it seems looking at the scores and how Mount Union played in the first round, they are on their way to another D-III championship.

Anyhow, Sioux Falls made the move to NCAA D-II and were 9-2 this year, so they held their own.

Any reason why Mount Union hasn't moved up to NCAA D-II?  Or even the FCS, it seems they could do well even at that level.  I mean, just looking at the scores from Mount Union this year it didn't even look fair.  Not saying there is anything wrong with that.  But as a school, wouldn't you want your dominate football team to move up and get even better and more national recognition?

Just curious,

uh oh
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: New Tradition on November 20, 2012, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 20, 2012, 02:55:33 PM
Yes I agree, excellent podcast, well done,

Pat, though I do want your opinion on Mount Union, and if this is a question for another board tell me.

University of Sioux Falls was the "Mount Union" of the NAIA, they won a ton of national championships, always in the playoffs and rarely lost.  And it seems looking at the scores and how Mount Union played in the first round, they are on their way to another D-III championship.

Anyhow, Sioux Falls made the move to NCAA D-II and were 9-2 this year, so they held their own.

Any reason why Mount Union hasn't moved up to NCAA D-II?  Or even the FCS, it seems they could do well even at that level.  I mean, just looking at the scores from Mount Union this year it didn't even look fair.  Not saying there is anything wrong with that.  But as a school, wouldn't you want your dominate football team to move up and get even better and more national recognition?

Just curious,

The level that a school chooses to compete at in the NCAA has more to do with the athletic philosophy of the school.  If a school wants to play the purest form of football in America with athletes that want nothing more than an opportunity to play, and can abide by the no scholarship rules, they are welcome to do so.  And I don't think DII gets any more or less recognition than DIII, though that may be a by-product of living in the Chicagoland area. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 20, 2012, 03:43:50 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 20, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 20, 2012, 02:55:33 PM
Yes I agree, excellent podcast, well done,

Pat, though I do want your opinion on Mount Union, and if this is a question for another board tell me.

University of Sioux Falls was the "Mount Union" of the NAIA, they won a ton of national championships, always in the playoffs and rarely lost.  And it seems looking at the scores and how Mount Union played in the first round, they are on their way to another D-III championship.

Anyhow, Sioux Falls made the move to NCAA D-II and were 9-2 this year, so they held their own.

Any reason why Mount Union hasn't moved up to NCAA D-II?  Or even the FCS, it seems they could do well even at that level.  I mean, just looking at the scores from Mount Union this year it didn't even look fair.  Not saying there is anything wrong with that.  But as a school, wouldn't you want your dominate football team to move up and get even better and more national recognition?

Just curious,

uh oh

Oh boy.............ummmmm.....uhhhhh.....(got to remember this was asked politely, and seems sincere)......

Over the past 10-15 years, this question/challenge has been posed many, many, many times.

Mount is a D-III school in every regard.  Moving from NAIA (who offer athletic scholarships), to NCAA II is a move that makes sense if an institution of higher learning wishes to take their program/ideology/direction to a higher level.

Mount is a D-III school in every sense of the description.  That their football team has had extraordinary success over the past twenty years does not take away from what Mount is, and wants to be as a university.  And......if you look at all the other sports at Mount (which would have to move up as well), you will see it makes no sense in any way, shape, or form.

Thank you, and may the football gods bless you! 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2012, 03:58:02 PM
So many teams have left the NAIA, baseman, that schools seriously have to consider it in order to maintain their rivalries. And while some have certainly chosen Division III as a destination, not every school (or alumni base, or board of trustees) understands it can do without the crutch of athletic scholarships to support an athletic program. For many, switching from the NAIA to Division II is just a matter of adding two basketball scholarships and 12 football scholarships -- it is not a change of identity.

Moving from Division III to Division II is. This is not about competitiveness, and certainly *not* about competitiveness in one sport. You can't just pick up and move football to another level -- you have to move all 20-some sports. And that's not easy, and it's not cheap. You have to lay out at least a million dollars in scholarship monies to meet Division II standards, and honestly, not only does not every school have that money, most schools don't want to. It's not their primary mission.

Size isn't a factor.
Competitiveness isn't a factor.
The school's overarching philosophy is a factor.

Division II may be the ones who took the slogan "I chose Division II" but in fact, it's the Division III schools who chose their philosophy. This is the highest form of purely amateur athletics on the planet. And it's the way college athletics was meant to be.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 20, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
QuoteOh boy.............ummmmm.....uhhhhh.....(got to remember this was asked politely, and seems sincere)...

Yes, I did ask this sincerely, like I said, just a curiosity question, nothing more.

The reason I asked is because I have seen a couple really good schools the past few years in NAIA jump to D-II, Lindenwood in MO being the other.

Skunks, I know you said that all the other sports would have to follow suit, but what about NCAA hockey?  or Lacrosse?  Johns Hopkins is usually one of the top lacrosse teams in the nation for NCAA D-I yet all other sports including football are D-III.  Colorado College plays at a high level of D-I hockey, yet all other sports are D-III.  There are also a ton of D-II schools who have just hockey at the D-I level.  I am just saying why couldn't a football team be at a higher division but still have the rest of the sports lower?  Unless there are rules against that.

Again, just thinking out loud,
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 20, 2012, 04:57:40 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 20, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
QuoteOh boy.............ummmmm.....uhhhhh.....(got to remember this was asked politely, and seems sincere)...

Yes, I did ask this sincerely, like I said, just a curiosity question, nothing more.

The reason I asked is because I have seen a couple really good schools the past few years in NAIA jump to D-II, Lindenwood in MO being the other.

Skunks, I know you said that all the other sports would have to follow suit, but what about NCAA hockey?  or Lacrosse?  Johns Hopkins is usually one of the top lacrosse teams in the nation for NCAA D-I yet all other sports including football are D-III.  Colorado College plays at a high level of D-I hockey, yet all other sports are D-III.  There are also a ton of D-II schools who have just hockey at the D-I level.  I am just saying why couldn't a football team be at a higher division but still have the rest of the sports lower?  Unless there are rules against that.

Again, just thinking out loud,

These teams were 'grandfathered' in; it is no longer permissible for d3 schools to have individual teams at different levels (with the exception of 'minor' sports that d3 doesn't have competitions for [skiing I think is one example]).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2012, 05:39:55 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 20, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
I am just saying why couldn't a football team be at a higher division but still have the rest of the sports lower?  Unless there are rules against that.

There are rules against that.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2012, 03:58:02 PM
You can't just pick up and move football to another level -- you have to move all 20-some sports.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 20, 2012, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2012, 05:39:55 PM
Quote from: baseman201 on November 20, 2012, 04:29:38 PM
I am just saying why couldn't a football team be at a higher division but still have the rest of the sports lower?  Unless there are rules against that.

There are rules against that.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2012, 03:58:02 PM
You can't just pick up and move football to another level -- you have to move all 20-some sports.

Ugh learned that one the hard way on twitter.....To be the team at the top you have to beat the team at the top.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 25, 2012, 03:31:27 PM
Here is how the Nath-con football teams have fared the last five years since the conference has backed football.

Overall

1. Concordia Chicago 37-14 (.725)
2. Benedictine 30-22 (.577)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 28-22 (.560)
4. Aurora 28-23 (.549)
5. Concordia Wisconsin 23-27 (.460)
6. Lakeland 21-30 (.412)
7. Rockford 5-45 (.100)
8. Maranatha 4-46 (.080)

Conference Record

1. Concordia Chicago 26-9 (.743)
T-2. Benedictine 22-13 (.628)
T-2. Concordia Wisconsin 22-13 (.628)
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 21-14 (.600)
T-5. Aurora 20-15 (.571)
T-5. Lakeland 20-15 (.571)
7. Rockford 4-31 (.114)
8. Maranatha 2-33 (.057)

Out of Conference Records

1. Concordia Chicago 11-5 (.688)
2. Aurora 8-8 (.500)
3. Benedictine 8-9 (.471)
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 7-8 (.467)
5. Maranatha 2-13 (.133)
T-6. Concordia Wisconsin 1-14 (.067)
T-6. Rockford 1-14 (.067)
8. Lakeland 1-15 (.063)

Probably the most improved team over the last five years is Concordia Chicago. Before the Nath-Con came to be they were struggling just to win one or two games a season. Now under Coach Priess that program is now one of the perennial contenders in the conference. The next best improved team is Wisconsin Lutheran. Their stay in the MIAA was not pretty (9-41 during their membership in the conference). Coach Miller has that program taking the next step to winning a conference title.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 25, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
I know that CUC will be losing some skill and line positions this year.  It seems that the latter is more dificult to fill for teams.

I do have to say with my limited viewing of the conference this past year the top 3 for next year, barring transfers and ineligibility, would be CUW, WL and CUC, in that order.  I would put my money on WL to have the slight lead because of their running game and those boys BRING THE WOOD!!  I was very impressed with their hitting and tackling.  Will be interesting.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on November 29, 2012, 03:54:18 AM
Often as I read these boards on my iPhone I accidentally hit the wrong link with my fat fingers. Just now I landed on a page from Sept 2007 on which there was a viscous series of posts about how Benedictine needs a new coach, while others defended BU and the coach.
I now notice that above a poster gave results for the last five years and Benedictine is tied for second.
Honest question: Was the 2007 critic way off base, did BU improve, or did BU get a new coach that improved things (i.e. the critic was right)?

From my very perspective, it looks like BU has gone just fine.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 29, 2012, 04:12:52 AM
Jon Cooper has been the head coach at BU since 2005, so the 2007 critic was way off base.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: mattvsmith on November 29, 2012, 06:50:19 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 29, 2012, 04:12:52 AM
Jon Cooper has been the head coach at BU since 2005, so the 2007 critic was way off base.

That's what I thought. Thanks for the verification.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 29, 2012, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 25, 2012, 03:31:27 PM
Here is how the Nath-con football teams have fared the last five years since the conference has backed football.

Overall

1. Concordia Chicago 37-14 (.725)
2. Benedictine 30-22 (.577)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 28-22 (.560)
4. Aurora 28-23 (.549)
5. Concordia Wisconsin 23-27 (.460)
6. Lakeland 21-30 (.412)
7. Rockford 5-45 (.100)
8. Maranatha 4-46 (.080)

Conference Record

1. Concordia Chicago 26-9 (.743)
T-2. Benedictine 22-13 (.628)
T-2. Concordia Wisconsin 22-13 (.628)
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 21-14 (.600)
T-5. Aurora 20-15 (.571)
T-5. Lakeland 20-15 (.571)
7. Rockford 4-31 (.114)
8. Maranatha 2-33 (.057)

Out of Conference Records

1. Concordia Chicago 11-5 (.688)
2. Aurora 8-8 (.500)
3. Benedictine 8-9 (.471)
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 7-8 (.467)
5. Maranatha 2-13 (.133)
T-6. Concordia Wisconsin 1-14 (.067)
T-6. Rockford 1-14 (.067)
8. Lakeland 1-15 (.063)

Probably the most improved team over the last five years is Concordia Chicago. Before the Nath-Con came to be they were struggling just to win one or two games a season. Now under Coach Priess that program is now one of the perennial contenders in the conference. The next best improved team is Wisconsin Lutheran. Their stay in the MIAA was not pretty (9-41 during their membership in the conference). Coach Miller has that program taking the next step to winning a conference title.

All-time NAthCon in-conference records:   As just noted above, 2 thru 6 are separated by only 2 wins.

Other related data:

Year:                           Playoff rep:                        Non-conf. record*

2008                             Aurora                                   2-1
2009                             Lakeland                                0-3
2010                             Benedictine                            1-2
2011                             Benedictine                            1-2
2012                             CUC                                      3-0

(* --excluding 1st round NCAA playoff losses).

(Side note:  Last weekend of '09 season, if looked on paper as if CUC had the best shot at the bid, needing only a win vs. Benedictine. The Cougars lost to the Eagles by a point while Lakeland shut out Aurora to get the bid and finish on top in a tight race to the finish that year).
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on December 04, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Concordia-Chicago's Lonnie Pries has resigned per the CUC's website to "pursue other opportunities". :'( :'( :'(

I would like to be the first on this site to thank Coach Pries for everything he has done for the Concordia community and his players. He is certainly going to be missed and difficult to replace.

Cougar fans, you may now COMMENCE PANIC.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 04, 2012, 10:04:50 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on December 04, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Concordia-Chicago's Lonnie Pries has resigned per the CUC's website to "pursue other opportunities". :'( :'( :'(

I would like to be the first on this site to thank Coach Pries for everything he has done for the Concordia community and his players. He is certainly going to be missed and difficult to replace.

Cougar fans, you may now COMMENCE PANIC.

There is  NAthCon's gridiiron equivalent of the news on Bielema leaving the Badgers   :o :o

Regardless of who takes over for Pries, the CUC/WLC rivalry will remain interesting. The Cougars had had the Warriors' number the last couple of meetings.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE on December 05, 2012, 08:23:14 AM
Anyone word on where Pries is going? Seems like an odd time to bow out, but leaving on top as they say, might not be a bad move.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 05, 2012, 09:36:22 AM
Haven't heard anything yet.  (Went back to the last time CUC played Adrian, sounds like the Cougars gave your Bulldogs all they could handle in a tight one, eh?)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on December 05, 2012, 09:53:20 AM
Quote from: ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE on December 05, 2012, 08:23:14 AM
Anyone word on where Pries is going? Seems like an odd time to bow out, but leaving on top as they say, might not be a bad move.

Pries has accepted the AD and HC football position at Concordia-Ann Arbor.  I believe they are NAIA.  Regardless, I thank him for what he did and wish him the best in his new positions.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE on December 05, 2012, 10:51:45 AM
Quote from: lem4094 on December 05, 2012, 09:53:20 AM
Quote from: ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE on December 05, 2012, 08:23:14 AM
Anyone word on where Pries is going? Seems like an odd time to bow out, but leaving on top as they say, might not be a bad move.

Pries has accepted the AD and HC football position at Concordia-Ann Arbor.  I believe they are NAIA.  Regardless, I thank him for what he did and wish him the best in his new positions.

Yeah, just go the scoop on that myself. They are a new NAIA program only around for a few years and have had little success so far. Best of luck there, NAIA scholarships, shaping a program and being AD had to be the allure.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on December 05, 2012, 11:05:40 AM
I'm in shock.

The thought that he would go to CUAA crossed my mind for about 10 seconds. Then I thought to myself that that would be like taking a helicopter to get to the Titanic.

Two thoughts: 1) If Coach Pries can get that program in Ann Arbor turned around, they should just hire him at Eastern Michigan or Colorado or some other dumpster fire.

2) If there is anyone who can turn a program around, it's Lonnie Pries.

Third (late) thought: (Conspiracy Theory) CUAA is now controlled by . . . Concordia-Wisconsin. This is nothing more than a plot to get Pries out of the NAC so that CUW can attempt to climb back to the top of the conference! What an evil, brilliant plan!  ;) . . . sort of.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 05, 2012, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on December 05, 2012, 11:05:40 AM
I'm in shock.

The thought that he would go to CUAA crossed my mind for about 10 seconds. Then I thought to myself that that would be like taking a helicopter to get to the Titanic.

Two thoughts: 1) If Coach Pries can get that program in Ann Arbor turned around, they should just hire him at Eastern Michigan or Colorado or some other dumpster fire.

2) If there is anyone who can turn a program around, it's Lonnie Pries.

Third (late) thought: (Conspiracy Theory) CUAA is now controlled by . . . Concordia-Wisconsin. This is nothing more than a plot to get Pries out of the NAC so that CUW can attempt to climb back to the top of the conference! What an evil, brilliant plan!  ;) . . . sort of.

LOL!  ;D

WLC won't let that happen on their watch (especially in Women's Basketball!  :P)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 05, 2012, 05:33:41 PM
Wow, I am surprised also.  I'm closer to that location than you guys and this is the first I've heard about it!  Where did the CUAA coach go? Was he let go? (I haven't checked their website yet so forgive me if the answers to those questions are there).  Perhaps Pries thought that he had taken his alma mater CUC as far as he could, although it would have been nice to see if he could build a "dynasty" there.  On the other hand, perhaps he just felt it was time to move on from that area since he has spent a large amount of his life there as a player and coach and/or the financial opportunity was one that he couldn't turn down.

Yes, CUAA is one of the new NAIA scholarship programs, along with Siena Heights University, the latter which is just across town in Adrian from Adrian College and whose head coach is former Adrian Head Coach/former U of Michigann player Jim Lyall (and whose QB coach was, I believe, Coach Parrish, former HC at Wabash and Kansas State, former OC at Rutgers and QB coach at U of Mich as I recall). Anyway, interesting moves in these coaching positions at both DI and DIII.

Who do any of you think that CUC will choose?  Will they stay "in house" or go outside?  Do you think former North Park HC Scott Pethtal (an Adrian Collge grad and former U of Buffalo assistant in the MAC) might apply for the job so he wouldn't have to move from Chicago?   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE on December 06, 2012, 12:13:09 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on December 05, 2012, 05:33:41 PM
Wow, I am surprised also.  I'm closer to that location than you guys and this is the first I've heard about it!  Where did the CUAA coach go? Was he let go? (I haven't checked their website yet so forgive me if the answers to those questions are there).  Perhaps Pries thought that he had taken his alma mater CUC as far as he could, although it would have been nice to see if he could build a "dynasty" there.  On the other hand, perhaps he just felt it was time to move on from that area since he has spent a large amount of his life there as a player and coach and/or the financial opportunity was one that he couldn't turn down.

Yes, CUAA is one of the new NAIA scholarship programs, along with Siena Heights University, the latter which is just across town in Adrian from Adrian College and whose head coach is former Adrian Head Coach/former U of Michigann player Jim Lyall (and whose QB coach was, I believe, Coach Parrish, former HC at Wabash and Kansas State, former OC at Rutgers and QB coach at U of Mich as I recall). Anyway, interesting moves in these coaching positions at both DI and DIII.

Who do any of you think that CUC will choose?  Will they stay "in house" or go outside?  Do you think former North Park HC Scott Pethtal (an Adrian Collge grad and former U of Buffalo assistant in the MAC) might apply for the job so he wouldn't have to move from Chicago?

I have a friend on staff at Siena Heights, from what I understand the CUAA head coach had an expletive laden outburst after their game and was fired shortly thereafter.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 06, 2012, 08:32:08 AM
It would appear to make sense for Priess to be taken on over there-given his rteam ebuilding experience-per CUAA gridiron results, that Michigan squad 0-fered on the season.

http://www.concordiacardinals.com/schedule/0/23/php
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 06, 2012, 08:37:42 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 06, 2012, 08:32:08 AM
It would appear to make sense for Priess to be taken on over there-given his rteam ebuilding experience-per CUAA gridiron results, that Michigan squad 0-fered on the season.

http://www.concordiacardinals.com/schedule/0/23/php

Also they are 0-20 all time since they have started football.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 06, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
DAWG:

Wow, that is too bad.  I forgot that you had a coaching friend over there, although again, I had not followed CCAA's program as closely this year as I "kind of" did the past year :D.  Another of our colleagues here on the boards (who I will keep confidential for legit reasons), mentioned to me that CCAA's head coach who was fired was actually the brother-in-law of the CCAA AD - a very tough and awkward situation resulting for sure.  Anyway, it will be interesting to see how Pries does there, although, again, as I mentioned, a tough loss for CUC.

   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on December 06, 2012, 05:35:16 PM
At this point, I wonder if CUC will keep their HC "in house" or look to fill from outside.

It seems to me that a "successful" program often promotes one of their coordinators to the head coach position so as to disrupt "a good thing" as little as possible . Also, you'd like to keep as many of your young players/potential recruits in the programas you can, and one way to do this is by keeping familiar coaches around.

In addition, it is hard to know which of the coaches will follow Pries to Ann Arbor, if any.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on December 06, 2012, 05:39:09 PM
DAWG:

Amidst all this CUC coaching news, I forgot that Concordia-Chicago is coming down to Adrian again next year. I'm looking forward to going down and enjoying your fine stadium and tailgate atmosphere again. I hope that CUC can keep it close again as they are losing over half their starters from last year.

Just a thought, do you think that Adrian will ever schedule Siena Heights in football? Is there too much discrepancy between the two programs? I'm wondering how long it will be until CUAA pops up on CUC's football schedule.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 11, 2012, 06:27:19 PM
WLC Head Coach Dennis Miller steps down. Defensive Coordinator Brian Murphy named Head Coach.

http://www.wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2938 (http://www.wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2938)

Kinda did not see this coming...Fresh off the best year in program history.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 11, 2012, 07:15:56 PM
I didn't either. However, I'm glad they have someone in house who is willing to immediately step in. Murphy goes back to when the gridiron program was much younger than now.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on December 11, 2012, 07:22:36 PM
Congrats John Borsellino on being named AFCA All-American! Also, congrats to John Borsellino and Ben Lockton who were selected to play in the D3 Senior Classic, Ben led the North team in tackles, John was unable to play due to an ankle injury he suffered against Lakeland in the last game of the season.  Lastly, congratulations and good luck to John Borsellino, Ben Lockton, and Chris Buonavolanto on being selected to play in the Aztec All American Bowl, which will be played this Friday in Monterey, Mexico.  Great to see the NAC players be recognized!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 11, 2012, 07:26:52 PM
d3fan1515, I second those!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on December 12, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
Very nice honor for those guys. They have been a bulwark for Benedictine and their success in the past number of years and are deserving of the accolades. It is too bad about Borsellino's injury; I had not heard about it.

Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 12, 2012, 12:51:10 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 11, 2012, 07:15:56 PM
I didn't either. However, I'm glad they have someone in house who is willing to immediately step in. Murphy goes back to when the gridiron program was much younger than now.

Wasn't he a player then? IMO I think this will be a good hire for WLC. Under Murphy the D has been one the best in the conference the last few years.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 12, 2012, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on December 12, 2012, 12:51:10 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 11, 2012, 07:15:56 PM
I didn't either. However, I'm glad they have someone in house who is willing to immediately step in. Murphy goes back to when the gridiron program was much younger than now.

Wasn't he a player then? IMO I think this will be a good hire for WLC. Under Murphy the D has been one the best in the conference the last few years.

Yes, he was an active player from 2000 - 2003 seasons.)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 14, 2012, 02:42:27 PM
WLC OL Pat Harrington has been selected to play in the Aztec Bowl.

http://www.wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2941 (http://www.wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2941)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 14, 2012, 04:05:34 PM
I'm hoping to take in at least part of that bowl game. I hope our players represent the NAthCon well.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on December 22, 2012, 10:24:03 AM
Anyone know of any facility upgrades going on within the NAC schools?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 22, 2012, 12:29:48 PM
wlcalum, wlcalum83:

It seems like a long time ago already since your WLC was in our MIAA!  Anyway, you guys are getting ready for the next era (Era II) of WLC football with the new head coach.  The facilities are nice also at the stadium with the new center/locker rooms there, instead of the circus/wedding reception tent! :o ::) ;D :D :)

Anyway, I just wanted to wish you guys and all the NAC posters here (even including RFMichigan, who is a CUC guy but posts here occasionally ;D ;)) a wonderful Christmas and New Years holiday with your families and whatever you do/wherever you will be at.  Safe travels.  It is a pleasure posting with you all here when I do occasionally (even though we are in different leagues) and I look forward to more of the same in 2013. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 25, 2012, 11:24:19 AM
Merry Christmas to all the Nath-con (or NAC for everyone familiar with the conference) users that post on here!!!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 26, 2012, 01:38:51 PM
It has nothing to do with familiarity, or lack thereof. It's called the NAthCon or the NAthC in d3sports.com circles because there was already a NAC -- the North Atlantic Conference (http://www.nacathletics.com/sports/mbkb/index) -- within the ranks of D3 leagues when yours was created. The North Atlantic Conference therefore has a prior claim to the abbreviation "NAC".
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 26, 2012, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 26, 2012, 01:38:51 PM
It has nothing to do with familiarity, or lack thereof. It's called the NAthCon or the NAthC in d3sports.com circles because there was already a NAC -- the North Atlantic Conference (http://www.nacathletics.com/sports/mbkb/index) -- within the ranks of D3 leagues when yours was created. The North Atlantic Conference therefore has a prior claim to the abbreviation "NAC".

With all due respect, Gregory, according to the official Northern Athletic Conferences website, their administrators (at least those who maintain the official league website) do indeed refer to it as the NAC.  So despite the North Atlantic Conference having rightful prior claim to the abbreviation "NAC" by virtue of it being established before the midwest conference, the latter appears to use the "NAC" abbreviation, regardless of whether those of us here on the d3sports .com circles refer to it as the NAthCon for clarity. ;) Perhaps the conference in our midwest region should change that if there is any confusion. ::) ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 26, 2012, 06:36:54 PM
Yes, I'm aware that this league's administrators use the "NAC" abbreviation. If I remember correctly, somebody involved with the larger world of D3 athletics -- it might've been Pat Coleman, because I remember him talking about it -- made an appeal to the newly-founded league to not use that name when it was first announced that that's what the fusion of the two defunct predecessor leagues, the Lake Michigan Conference and the Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference, would call itself, since the older North Atlantic Conference had already staked its claim to the abbreviation. This plea for the new league to seek something more original and less confusing was obviously ignored.

The league can call itself anything it likes, of course. But those of us who follow the larger world of D3 athletics will continue to call this league the NAthCon or the NAthC so as to avoid confusion with the older league out east that has the right of precedence as far as the initials "NAC" are concerned.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 26, 2012, 11:23:07 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 26, 2012, 06:36:54 PM
Yes, I'm aware that this league's administrators use the "NAC" abbreviation. If I remember correctly, somebody involved with the larger world of D3 athletics -- it might've been Pat Coleman, because I remember him talking about it -- made an appeal to the newly-founded league to not use that name when it was first announced that that's what the fusion of the two defunct predecessor leagues, the Lake Michigan Conference and the Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference, would call itself, since the older North Atlantic Conference had already staked its claim to the abbreviation. This plea for the new league to seek something more original and less confusing was obviously ignored.

The league can call itself anything it likes, of course. But those of us who follow the larger world of D3 athletics will continue to call this league the NAthCon or the NAthC so as to avoid confusion with the older league out east that has the right of precedence as far as the initials "NAC" are concerned.

Certainly makes sense for avoiding confusion as you mention despite the league administrators deciding to call their league/use the initials "NAC".  I guess that is keeping in line with the absurdity of the DI conferences with their wacky names and alignments in the current ever-changing world of college football. It's even affecting DIII in that small, albeit insignificant way. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 27, 2012, 02:36:52 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on December 26, 2012, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 26, 2012, 01:38:51 PM
It has nothing to do with familiarity, or lack thereof. It's called the NAthCon or the NAthC in d3sports.com circles because there was already a NAC -- the North Atlantic Conference (http://www.nacathletics.com/sports/mbkb/index) -- within the ranks of D3 leagues when yours was created. The North Atlantic Conference therefore has a prior claim to the abbreviation "NAC".

With all due respect, Gregory, according to the official Northern Athletic Conferences website, their administrators (at least those who maintain the official league website) do indeed refer to it as the NAC.  So despite the North Atlantic Conference having rightful prior claim to the abbreviation "NAC" by virtue of it being established before the midwest conference, the latter appears to use the "NAC" abbreviation, regardless of whether those of us here on the d3sports .com circles refer to it as the NAthCon for clarity. ;) Perhaps the conference in our midwest region should change that if there is any confusion. ::) ;)

It's actually the Northern Athletics Conference. :)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 27, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
Thanks for the grammatical clarification/correction Pat! ;)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: lem4094 on December 29, 2012, 11:37:46 AM
Any word on who has interviewed for the CUC position?  Any speculations?
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on January 13, 2013, 09:55:36 AM
CUC football HC position . . . something's going on . . .

There's a You Tube clip, posted January 12 (only featured in a small interview box on the CUC baseball page) showing Randy Awrey speaking to an unnamed group (assuming from the questions fielded that they are players/prospective players) titled "Concordia-Chicago's new head football coach Randy Awrey speaks about his new position and the future of Cougar football".

Here is a bio from his most recent position:
"Randy Awrey joins the Marietta College football staff as the defensive coordinator in 2012. Awrey comes to Marietta from Northern Michigan University where he served in the same capacity since 2007.

Awrey brings over 30 years of football coaching experience to the Pioneer program, including 18 as a collegiate head coach. His career record as a head coach is 124-68-1.

Prior to his stint at Northern Michigan, Awrey was the head coach at Saginaw Valley State University for nine seasons (1999-2007) where he led the Cardinals to a 76-27 overall record. He left Saginaw Valley as the all-time winningest coach in school history."

I know of him from his days at SVSU where he followed Jerry Kill, and then  . . . 

Commence discussion.

   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WisIllMich on January 13, 2013, 05:14:09 PM
Here is the video link for those wondering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3IKjYV40hMQ

He seems like a solid man. Anyone replacing Pries will obviously be a downgrade in the faith/leadership/personal aspect. What I am hoping for is that he will bring an aspect of football knowledge that Pries did not necessarily have.

Finally, I pray that the team will unite around this man, and most importantly for the team, still unite with each other.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on January 13, 2013, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: WisIllMich on January 13, 2013, 05:14:09 PM
Here is the video link for those wondering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3IKjYV40hMQ

He seems like a solid man. Anyone replacing Pries will obviously be a downgrade in the faith/leadership/personal aspect. What I am hoping for is that he will bring an aspect of football knowledge that Pries did not necessarily have.

Finally, I pray that the team will unite around this man, and most importantly for the team, still unite with each other.
Quote from: RFMichigan on January 13, 2013, 09:55:36 AM
CUC football HC position . . . something's going on . . .

There's a You Tube clip, posted January 12 (only featured in a small interview box on the CUC baseball page) showing Randy Awrey speaking to an unnamed group (assuming from the questions fielded that they are players/prospective players) titled "Concordia-Chicago's new head football coach Randy Awrey speaks about his new position and the future of Cougar football".

Here is a bio from his most recent position:
"Randy Awrey joins the Marietta College football staff as the defensive coordinator in 2012. Awrey comes to Marietta from Northern Michigan University where he served in the same capacity since 2007.

Awrey brings over 30 years of football coaching experience to the Pioneer program, including 18 as a collegiate head coach. His career record as a head coach is 124-68-1.

Prior to his stint at Northern Michigan, Awrey was the head coach at Saginaw Valley State University for nine seasons (1999-2007) where he led the Cardinals to a 76-27 overall record. He left Saginaw Valley as the all-time winningest coach in school history."

I know of him from his days at SVSU where he followed Jerry Kill, and then  . . . 

Commence discussion.



Thanks for the info and the link guys.  Not surprising that he returns more "north" although only after one year at Marietta.  Also, perhaps not so surprising that his second (and last) son would give up his senior year at Marietta to go play for his dad again at CUC.  His other son (who is coaching at Olivet (MI) College in the MIAA) apparently did the same thing, playing at DII Saginaw Valley State when Awrey was head coach there, then following his dad to his dad's alma mater DII Northern Michigan and finishing there, according to what I recall and also his bio on the Marietta website.

Finally, it is somewhat strange that as of early this evening, CUC had not posted any info on him on their football website.  I assume they will do so tomorrow or very soon?
















Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on January 14, 2013, 12:42:02 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on January 13, 2013, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: WisIllMich on January 13, 2013, 05:14:09 PM
Here is the video link for those wondering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3IKjYV40hMQ

He seems like a solid man. Anyone replacing Pries will obviously be a downgrade in the faith/leadership/personal aspect. What I am hoping for is that he will bring an aspect of football knowledge that Pries did not necessarily have.

Finally, I pray that the team will unite around this man, and most importantly for the team, still unite with each other.
Quote from: RFMichigan on January 13, 2013, 09:55:36 AM
CUC football HC position . . . something's going on . . .

There's a You Tube clip, posted January 12 (only featured in a small interview box on the CUC baseball page) showing Randy Awrey speaking to an unnamed group (assuming from the questions fielded that they are players/prospective players) titled "Concordia-Chicago's new head football coach Randy Awrey speaks about his new position and the future of Cougar football".

Here is a bio from his most recent position:
"Randy Awrey joins the Marietta College football staff as the defensive coordinator in 2012. Awrey comes to Marietta from Northern Michigan University where he served in the same capacity since 2007.

Awrey brings over 30 years of football coaching experience to the Pioneer program, including 18 as a collegiate head coach. His career record as a head coach is 124-68-1.

Prior to his stint at Northern Michigan, Awrey was the head coach at Saginaw Valley State University for nine seasons (1999-2007) where he led the Cardinals to a 76-27 overall record. He left Saginaw Valley as the all-time winningest coach in school history."

I know of him from his days at SVSU where he followed Jerry Kill, and then  . . . 

Commence discussion.



Thanks for the info and the link guys.  Not surprising that he returns more "north" although only after one year at Marietta.  Also, perhaps not so surprising that his second (and last) son would give up his senior year at Marietta to go play for his dad again at CUC.  His other son (who is coaching at Olivet (MI) College in the MIAA) apparently did the same thing, playing at DII Saginaw Valley State when Awrey was head coach there, then following his dad to his dad's alma mater DII Northern Michigan and finishing there, according to what I recall and also his bio on the Marietta website.

Finally, it is somewhat strange that as of early this evening, CUC had not posted any info on him on their football website.  I assume they will do so tomorrow or very soon?

I'm guessing something will be up Monday.

As to him being at Marietta only one year, I'm chalking that up to his being not retained at Northern for the 2012 season when they had a new head coach named a year ago (not surprising to have a head coach bring in his own coordinators) and his wanting to get back into a head coaching position. 

Stay tuned.   
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on January 14, 2013, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on January 14, 2013, 12:42:02 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on January 13, 2013, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: WisIllMich on January 13, 2013, 05:14:09 PM
Here is the video link for those wondering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3IKjYV40hMQ

He seems like a solid man. Anyone replacing Pries will obviously be a downgrade in the faith/leadership/personal aspect. What I am hoping for is that he will bring an aspect of football knowledge that Pries did not necessarily have.

Finally, I pray that the team will unite around this man, and most importantly for the team, still unite with each other.
Quote from: RFMichigan on January 13, 2013, 09:55:36 AM
CUC football HC position . . . something's going on . . .

There's a You Tube clip, posted January 12 (only featured in a small interview box on the CUC baseball page) showing Randy Awrey speaking to an unnamed group (assuming from the questions fielded that they are players/prospective players) titled "Concordia-Chicago's new head football coach Randy Awrey speaks about his new position and the future of Cougar football".

Here is a bio from his most recent position:
"Randy Awrey joins the Marietta College football staff as the defensive coordinator in 2012. Awrey comes to Marietta from Northern Michigan University where he served in the same capacity since 2007.

Awrey brings over 30 years of football coaching experience to the Pioneer program, including 18 as a collegiate head coach. His career record as a head coach is 124-68-1.

Prior to his stint at Northern Michigan, Awrey was the head coach at Saginaw Valley State University for nine seasons (1999-2007) where he led the Cardinals to a 76-27 overall record. He left Saginaw Valley as the all-time winningest coach in school history."

I know of him from his days at SVSU where he followed Jerry Kill, and then  . . . 

Commence discussion.



Thanks for the info and the link guys.  Not surprising that he returns more "north" although only after one year at Marietta.  Also, perhaps not so surprising that his second (and last) son would give up his senior year at Marietta to go play for his dad again at CUC.  His other son (who is coaching at Olivet (MI) College in the MIAA) apparently did the same thing, playing at DII Saginaw Valley State when Awrey was head coach there, then following his dad to his dad's alma mater DII Northern Michigan and finishing there, according to what I recall and also his bio on the Marietta website.

Finally, it is somewhat strange that as of early this evening, CUC had not posted any info on him on their football website.  I assume they will do so tomorrow or very soon?

I'm guessing something will be up Monday.

As to him being at Marietta only one year, I'm chalking that up to his being not retained at Northern for the 2012 season when they had a new head coach named a year ago (not surprising to have a head coach bring in his own coordinators) and his wanting to get back into a head coaching position. 

Stay tuned.

I think you are right.  My only question is (and this is no big deal) is why he switched to DIII after spending the majority of his career in DII as both a player and a coach?  Perhaps it was just because those were the job positions available, especially the HC job.  I would think he would have tried to get an assistants position at one of the other DII GLIAC schools that were closer, such as Findlay, Lake Erie, etc.  Anyway, yes, I will stay tuned. :) Thanks.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on January 14, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on January 14, 2013, 12:42:02 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on January 13, 2013, 09:39:15 PM
Finally, it is somewhat strange that as of early this evening, CUC had not posted any info on him on their football website.  I assume they will do so tomorrow or very soon?

I'm guessing something will be up Monday.   

Or not.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WisIllMich on January 15, 2013, 02:23:38 AM
QuoteI think you are right.  My only question is (and this is no big deal) is why he switched to DIII after spending the majority of his career in DII as both a player and a coach?  Perhaps it was just because those were the job positions available, especially the HC job.  I would think he would have tried to get an assistants position at one of the other DII GLIAC schools that were closer, such as Findlay, Lake Erie, etc.  Anyway, yes, I will stay tuned. :) Thanks.

If you listen/watch the video, he says that he made the move to this school at this point in his career because he wants to be in an atmosphere where he can be open about his faith.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on January 15, 2013, 11:59:04 AM
Okay, the Concordia website now has the announcement of the hiring of Randy Awrey as head coach.

Link: http://www.cucougars.com/news/2013/1/15/FB_0115135827.aspx (http://www.cucougars.com/news/2013/1/15/FB_0115135827.aspx)

I had forgotten that Awrey had come from Lakeland before going to SVSU. I'm pretty sure that former Concordia coach and current VP, Jeff Hynes, coached at Lakeland shortly after Awrey left there.

I'm glad that Coach Awrey has dIII ties, as in many ways is a different philosophy than scholarship programs, so he has some background in this arena.

Welcome Coach Awrey!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: formerd3db on January 16, 2013, 05:42:46 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on January 15, 2013, 11:59:04 AM
Okay, the Concordia website now has the announcement of the hiring of Randy Awrey as head coach.

Link: http://www.cucougars.com/news/2013/1/15/FB_0115135827.aspx (http://www.cucougars.com/news/2013/1/15/FB_0115135827.aspx)

I had forgotten that Awrey had come from Lakeland before going to SVSU. I'm pretty sure that former Concordia coach and current VP, Jeff Hynes, coached at Lakeland shortly after Awrey left there.

I'm glad that Coach Awrey has dIII ties, as in many ways is a different philosophy than scholarship programs, so he has some background in this arena.

Welcome Coach Awrey!

RFMichigan:

Sounds like you got a good coach there.  Hopefully, he will be able to continue to progress to the next tier that Pries started.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on January 19, 2013, 10:15:44 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on January 16, 2013, 05:42:46 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on January 15, 2013, 11:59:04 AM
Okay, the Concordia website now has the announcement of the hiring of Randy Awrey as head coach.

Link: http://www.cucougars.com/news/2013/1/15/FB_0115135827.aspx (http://www.cucougars.com/news/2013/1/15/FB_0115135827.aspx)

I had forgotten that Awrey had come from Lakeland before going to SVSU. I'm pretty sure that former Concordia coach and current VP, Jeff Hynes, coached at Lakeland shortly after Awrey left there.

I'm glad that Coach Awrey has dIII ties, as in many ways is a different philosophy than scholarship programs, so he has some background in this arena.

Welcome Coach Awrey!

RFMichigan:

Sounds like you got a good coach there.  Hopefully, he will be able to continue to progress to the next tier that Pries started.

Yes, thank you, I hope so too. I noticed that Awrey's OC will be Jim Kiernan, the former HC at Gannon (a DII school in Erie, PA) where he had success, and was also Awrey's OC at SVSU. I will say these coaches have some credentials.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on January 22, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran tabs the former CUC offensive coordinator Erich Janousky to the same position.

http://wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2985 (http://wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2985)

I like this hire. Wonder if the offense will mix things up going forward.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WisIllMich on January 26, 2013, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 22, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran tabs the former CUC offensive coordinator Erich Janousky to the same position.

http://wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2985 (http://wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2985)

I like this hire. Wonder if the offense will mix things up going forward.

And WLC instantly becomes my pick for conference champions...

1. WLC
2. CUW
3. CUC
4. Benny
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on January 26, 2013, 10:38:25 PM
Quote from: WisIllMich on January 26, 2013, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on January 22, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran tabs the former CUC offensive coordinator Erich Janousky to the same position.

http://wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2985 (http://wlcsports.com/article.asp?articleID=2985)

I like this hire. Wonder if the offense will mix things up going forward.

And WLC instantly becomes my pick for conference champions...

1. WLC
2. CUW
3. CUC
4. Benny

It will be interesting if there are any changes to the offense over their at WLC. They lose Shaw ( had his ups and downs throughout his career) but bring back quite a few contributors on the offensive side of the ball.

Overall my way too early looks

1. WLC
2. CUC
3. CUW
4. BU
5. AU
6. LC
7. RC
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on January 27, 2013, 09:42:30 AM
Thats gonna begood for wlc
I wouldnt put bu so far down though, yeah they lost there star running back and star d lineman, but some of the transfers ive seen them pick up, several former d1 and d2 players and alot of oline which was clearly the eagles weakest link
My picks for the upcoming season
Wlc
Bu
Cuc
Au
Cuw
Lakland
Rockford
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on January 27, 2013, 11:47:58 AM
I think there is not a whole lot of separation between 1st and 4th going into next year. It will be interesting to see how things shake out next year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 05, 2013, 09:56:16 PM
Heard word that John Borsellino really impressed scouts at Northwestern Universities pro-day! I am not aware of his numbers, but his bother had posted that he did 28 reps at 225... He was also invited back for the individual drill work portion of the Pro Day... 75% of the other participants were sent home.  Good for John and I hope it works out for him!
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: irisheagle on March 12, 2013, 08:01:04 PM
I also know Lockton and some CUC players were at this pro day, does anyone know how they did? I also saw locktons name on the roster for a international scout bowl in alabama and it looked like he was the only d-3 player that is going .. Mainly d2 with a handfull of d-1 guys. Ive also heard that cuc has greatly dropped in size with the new coaching change getting rid of troubled players. As well as ive heard there are some BIG kids coming in to BU next year so hopefully they can fix there o-line struggles they were having next year.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on March 22, 2013, 11:11:33 AM
I see that Maranatha is still on the schedule for WLC, CUC, Rockford, and Aurora. I'm guessing that the other Nath-Con schools also have the Crusaders on the schedule as well.
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on March 26, 2013, 12:30:29 PM
Quote from: irisheagle on March 12, 2013, 08:01:04 PM
Ive also heard that cuc has greatly dropped in size with the new coaching change getting rid of troubled players.

Yeah, I looked at their "2012" roster a few weeks ago and noticed a few underclassmen who were big contributors last year are no longer on the roster - most noticeably Andrew Maddox (RB) and Sherman Jones (WR) on offense - where they had five seniors on offense that they need to replace anyway to go along with graduating seven seniors on defense in addition to not having Andrew Gleason (LB) on the roster. (He had a season-ending broken leg at the end of 2012, and I'm not sure if that has to do with his status.) Bottom line: the Cougars have to replace a LOT of contributors from last year.

Truthfully, there is so much turnover at the dIII level that I'm not terribly surprised to see a lot of freshmen and sophomores no longer on a roster, but it saddens me a little bit that among those who give up football, leave the school, etc. there are probably quite a few who could contribute in their upperclass years and benefit from being on the team.

In addition, there is usually extra turnover when there is a coaching change such as CUC just went through. I think "rebuilding" may be a word thrown around River Forest this fall, but we'll just have to put our trust, as CUC fans, in Coach Awrey. You never know what will happen in the NAC. 
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on April 23, 2013, 12:27:14 AM
Looking at some of the 2013 schedules and here are the non-conference slates.

Aurora

9/7 vs Illinois Wesleyan (6-4)
9/21 at Albion (MIAA/Nath-Con Challenge) (6-4)
9/28 vs Millikin (5-5)
10/5 vs Maranatha (0-10)

17-23 (.425)

Benedictine

9/7 vs Wheaton (IL) (8-2)
9/14 vs North Park (IL) (1-9)
9/21 at Kalamazoo (MIAA/Nath-Con Challenge) (5-5)
11/9 at Maranatha (0-10)

14-26 (.350)

Concordia Chicago

9/7 at Lake Forest (8-2)
9/14 vs Chicago (4-6)
9/21 at Adrian (MIAA/Nath-Con Challenge) (9-2)
11/16 vs Maranatha (0-10)

21-20 (.512)

Concordia Wisconsin

9/7 vs Augsburg (7-3)
9/14 vs Macalester? (6-4)
9/21 at Trine (MIAA/Nath-Con Challenge) (7-3)
10/12 at Maranatha (0-10)

20-20 (.500)

Lakeland

9/7 at Carroll (WI) (8-2)
9/14 vs Carthage (3-7)
9/21 at Alma (MIAA/Nath-Con Challenge) (1-9)
10/19 vs Maranatha (0-10)

12-28 (.300)

Rockford

9/7 at UW-Stevens Point (2-8)
9/14 vs Loras (2-8)
9/21 at Olivet (MIAA/Nath-Con Challenge) (0-10)
10/26 at Maranatha (0-10)

4-36 (.100)

Wisconsin Lutheran

9/7 vs Ripon (5-5)
9/14 at Olivet (0-10)
9/21 at Hope (MIAA/Nath-Con Challenge) (7-3)
11/2 vs Maranatha (0-10)

12-28 (.300)
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on June 06, 2013, 12:35:16 PM
The Northern Athletic Conference will become the Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference on July 1 (along with Rockford becoming a university): http://www.northernac.org/releases/2012-13/20130606nacc
Title: Re: Northern Athletics Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 06, 2013, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on June 06, 2013, 12:35:16 PM
The Northern Athletic Conference will become the Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference on July 1 (along with Rockford becoming a university): http://www.northernac.org/releases/2012-13/20130606nacc

Makes sense as far as lessening the confusion between the NAthCon and the North Atlantic Conference. Effective next month, if we NAthCon followers so choose, we can start calling "ours" "NACC". 


(NAthCon schools rarely played any from the Northern Atlantic Conference anyway, we weren't geographically close enough to justify any gridiron, MBB or WBB matchups--I went back to 2007 results and from '07-'13  the  sports the schools competed against each other mostly were baseball and softball during a given warm climate early season or spring break tournament.  North Atlantic went 5-3 all-time vs. NAthCon in baseball. Softball all time record is 2-2.)
Title: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 30, 2013, 03:48:50 PM
A day early "hello" to Rockford University--

(let's see what Pat does with this topic)

Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 01, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
Also a goodbye from Maranatha. Hope they do well as an independent.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on July 01, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 01, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
Also a goodbye from Maranatha. Hope they do well as an independent.
I'm curious who ends up on their schedule in a few years down the road. I would imagine putting together a schedule for football as an independent would be difficult. Who are some teams that they will be more competitive with on a year in-year out basis? 
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 01, 2013, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on July 01, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 01, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
Also a goodbye from Maranatha. Hope they do well as an independent.
I'm curious who ends up on their schedule in a few years down the road. I would imagine putting together a schedule for football as an independent would be difficult. Who are some teams that they will be more competitive with on a year in-year out basis?

For them I think maybe one or two NACC teams, A few fellow NCCAA teams, and possibly one or two UMAC squads. It's kinda hard for them to find any opponents that will schedule them with their struggles since the NACC sponsored football in 2008.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 01, 2013, 05:28:58 PM
http://athletics.ben.edu/news/2013/6/27/FB_0627130637.aspx

Benedictine has put up their schedule for the upcoming year, should be an interesting year with a lot of familiar names gone due to graduation... I have heard rumors of a very solid recruiting class as well as some nice transfers, we shall see shortly as we are only about a month away from Summer Camp!

From my count it looks like BU will bring back 7 returners on D and 6 on O... I am curious to see who will step up this year with Borsellino and Lockton lost to graduation!  I think BU should still have a solid squad back this year and I look forward to seeing them play!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 02, 2013, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 01, 2013, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on July 01, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 01, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
Also a goodbye from Maranatha. Hope they do well as an independent.
I'm curious who ends up on their schedule in a few years down the road. I would imagine putting together a schedule for football as an independent would be difficult. Who are some teams that they will be more competitive with on a year in-year out basis?

For them I think maybe one or two NACC teams, A few fellow NCCAA teams, and possibly one or two UMAC squads. It's kinda hard for them to find any opponents that will schedule them with their struggles since the NACC sponsored football in 2008.

Who are the NCCAA teams with football?

1515: Every team's schedule is up.
http://www.d3football.com/teams/index
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 02, 2013, 05:16:36 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 02, 2013, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 01, 2013, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on July 01, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 01, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
Also a goodbye from Maranatha. Hope they do well as an independent.
I'm curious who ends up on their schedule in a few years down the road. I would imagine putting together a schedule for football as an independent would be difficult. Who are some teams that they will be more competitive with on a year in-year out basis?

For them I think maybe one or two NACC teams, A few fellow NCCAA teams, and possibly one or two UMAC squads. It's kinda hard for them to find any opponents that will schedule them with their struggles since the NACC sponsored football in 2008.

Who are the NCCAA teams with football?

1515: Every team's schedule is up.
http://www.d3football.com/teams/index

Here's a link

http://www.thenccaa.org/sports/2012/6/6/FB_0606123813.aspx?path=football (http://www.thenccaa.org/sports/2012/6/6/FB_0606123813.aspx?path=football)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 02, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
Many of those are committed to conferences. I can't imagine who from this list they would pick up that they don't already play, short of Trinity Bible and perhaps Kentucky Christian.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 02, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 02, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
Many of those are committed to conferences. I can't imagine who from this list they would pick up that they don't already play, short of Trinity Bible and perhaps Kentucky Christian.

That's the thing....I think Maranatha put themselves in a tight spot by leaving the NACC. As RFMichigan stated, it's tougher to put together a schedule as a independent. Add to their recent struggles in football and not a whole lot of teams are willing to keep scheduling them.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 02, 2013, 05:32:41 PM
Agreed. I kind of thought this might actually be the end of football at Maranatha, the way it looks. We'll know more after this season, I suppose.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 02, 2013, 07:21:33 PM
CUW- Pretty sure they return a bunch on both sides of the ball and will most likely have the best offense in the conference...

WLC- Had a great defense last year, not sure how many of those guys they bring back... They did not impress me at all offensively...  However, they did get a new OC, which I think is more O-Minded, correct me if i'm wrong, but he came from CUC? This could be a difference maker if the offense can gel quickly, however they have to have the personnel to run his style of offense, I don't know if they have that just yet!  I see BU and WLC slugging it out for this spot...

BU- Returns a nice number of returning players on both side of the ball... Should be tough defensively, offense will have to get there act together if they are going to compete for conference.  They do bring back a returning QB and a playmaker in Monaco, but after that I don't see much fire power... I hope they were able to bring in more fire power this off season.

AU- This is a team that I really have no clue about, I know they lose their QB due to graduation, as well as their stud TE, in my opinion, he was their best player! I also know they had a stud FR receiver, i believe he was #1...  Defensively they lose their best DL, other then him, I really don't know much about their defense.  In all fairness to AU, they usually get a nice new crop of transfers in the off season, so I am going to keep them here for now until I hear more about what they have coming in.

CUC- They just lose WAY to much talent due to graduation, and I am sure they lost some more due to the coaching change.  I think this may be a tough year for CUC...

RC- I will rank them here for a long time until they show they can win on a regular basis...  They did have some nice players last year though, If they were able to hold onto those key players they may surprise a couple teams this year!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on July 02, 2013, 11:25:38 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 02, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 02, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
Many of those are committed to conferences. I can't imagine who from this list they would pick up that they don't already play, short of Trinity Bible and perhaps Kentucky Christian.

That's the thing....I think Maranatha put themselves in a tight spot by leaving the NACC. As RFMichigan stated, it's tougher to put together a schedule as a independent. Add to their recent struggles in football and not a whole lot of teams are willing to keep scheduling them.

The fact the NACC now has seven teams could help Maranatha in that there will be an open week for these schools later in the season that might player Maranatha. However due to recent struggles at Maranatha to field a competitive team, I wonder if the NACC and MIAA are talking about changing their challenge series from all seven games in one weekend to one game a week for seven weeks throughout the conference for teams that don't want the bye week late in the year.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 03, 2013, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on July 02, 2013, 07:21:33 PM
CUW- Pretty sure they return a bunch on both sides of the ball and will most likely have the best offense in the conference...

WLC- Had a great defense last year, not sure how many of those guys they bring back... They did not impress me at all offensively...  However, they did get a new OC, which I think is more O-Minded, correct me if i'm wrong, but he came from CUC? This could be a difference maker if the offense can gel quickly, however they have to have the personnel to run his style of offense, I don't know if they have that just yet!  I see BU and WLC slugging it out for this spot...

BU- Returns a nice number of returning players on both side of the ball... Should be tough defensively, offense will have to get there act together if they are going to compete for conference.  They do bring back a returning QB and a playmaker in Monaco, but after that I don't see much fire power... I hope they were able to bring in more fire power this off season.

AU- This is a team that I really have no clue about, I know they lose their QB due to graduation, as well as their stud TE, in my opinion, he was their best player! I also know they had a stud FR receiver, i believe he was #1...  Defensively they lose their best DL, other then him, I really don't know much about their defense.  In all fairness to AU, they usually get a nice new crop of transfers in the off season, so I am going to keep them here for now until I hear more about what they have coming in.

CUC- They just lose WAY to much talent due to graduation, and I am sure they lost some more due to the coaching change.  I think this may be a tough year for CUC...

RC- I will rank them here for a long time until they show they can win on a regular basis...  They did have some nice players last year though, If they were able to hold onto those key players they may surprise a couple teams this year!

Correct Janousky was the former Offensive Coordinator for Concordia Chicago. WLC loses Shaw which could possibly a good thing because there were times where he would have a great game and times where he was misfiring. Dyrssen figures to be the starting QB for them heading into the season.

I agree it will be a three team race this season with CUW, WLC, and BU leading the charge.

My thoughts on the other NACC Teams....

Aurora: Been up and down since winning the first conference title in 2008. It figures that they may be having a down year but I think this year they repeat last year's record.

Concordia Chicago: CUC came a two point conversion away from giving the conference their first ever playoff win. However they not only lose their Pries who looks to build NAIA Concordia (MI) into a solid program but a lot of production from graduation. Coach Awrey will have his work cut out for him in year one.

Lakeland: Kinda hard to move them upward after last season. I think it will be another rebuilding year up in Sheboygan before the Muskies climb back up the standings.

Rockford: Could challenge Lakeland and CUC for position in the conference but I agree they will be near the bottom again this year. They have been steadily improving and could have a better team again.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 11, 2013, 07:52:48 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran has there roster updated.

http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/roster (http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/roster)

Freshman Class by State

WI: 18
IL: 6
CA: 5
FL: 3
MI: 3
AZ: 1
TX: 1

By Position

WR: 7
RB: 7
OL: 6
DB: 4
LB: 4
QB: 4
DL: 2
S: 2
CB: 1
TE: 1
DE: 1
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on July 12, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 11, 2013, 07:52:48 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran has there roster updated.

http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/roster (http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/roster)

Freshman Class by State

WI: 18
IL: 6
CA: 5
FL: 3
MI: 3
AZ: 1
TX: 1

By Position

WR: 7
RB: 7
OL: 6
DB: 4
LB: 4
QB: 4
DL: 2
S: 2
CB: 1
TE: 1
DE: 1

I counted 117 on WLC's pre-season roster. That's a pretty healthy number.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 12, 2013, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on July 12, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 11, 2013, 07:52:48 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran has there roster updated.

http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/roster (http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/roster)

Freshman Class by State

WI: 18
IL: 6
CA: 5
FL: 3
MI: 3
AZ: 1
TX: 1

By Position

WR: 7
RB: 7
OL: 6
DB: 4
LB: 4
QB: 4
DL: 2
S: 2
CB: 1
TE: 1
DE: 1

I counted 117 on WLC's pre-season roster. That's a pretty healthy number.

The roster has been growing over the last few seasons (enough to have some JV games) which shows how far WLC's program has come since joining the NACC.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 18, 2013, 01:49:28 PM
Concordia Chicago gets three votes in the Preseason Top 25...They are tied for 44th with Monmouth (IL) from the Midwest Conference.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 23, 2013, 02:36:25 PM
Concordia Wisconsin Junior Guard Sean Jones makes the D3 preseason all-american second team list.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 25, 2013, 12:03:18 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran Junior RB Michael Reeves and Senior LB Eric Zeitler make the USA Football Network Preseason All-American list.

http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20130724jbx1ad (http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20130724jbx1ad)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on July 30, 2013, 04:01:30 PM
I just counted 31 returning players on CUC's roster... I know they graduated a few key guys, I also know that they have not uploaded their recruiting class yet, but just to have quality depth they will have to have an extremely large recruiting class... Where did the rest of their roster go??? How many players transferred out?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: baseman201 on August 08, 2013, 10:30:15 AM
So, I was just looking at some rosters and only see 31 guys on CUC's team?

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 08, 2013, 10:33:01 AM
Nope, that's the reality -- that's how many players were left after last season. A lot of seniors on last year's team but can't really say where the rest of the non-seniors went. More than 50 letterwinners from last season are not on the roster any longer.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: baseman201 on August 08, 2013, 10:52:19 AM
QuoteNope, that's the reality -- that's how many players were left after last season. A lot of seniors on last year's team but can't really say where the rest of the non-seniors went. More than 50 letterwinners from last season are not on the roster any longer.

Yikes, could be a tough year for CUC...
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 12, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
Preseason Poll is out and here is what the coaches think how the conference plays out this year.


1. Concordia Wisconsin 90 (10)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 85 (3)
3. Aurora 66 (1)
4. Benedictine 53
5. Concordia Chicago 49
6. Lakeland 31
7. Rockford 18

http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/201308123oe82w (http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/201308123oe82w)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on August 12, 2013, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on August 12, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
Preseason Poll is out and here is what the coaches think how the conference plays out this year.


1. Concordia Wisconsin 90 (10)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 85 (3)
3. Aurora 66 (1)
4. Benedictine 53
5. Concordia Chicago 49
6. Lakeland 31
7. Rockford 18

http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/201308123oe82w (http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/201308123oe82w)
I would agree with this, although I might flipflop Aurora and BU. BU lost their top couple of players, but they still have a number of returning starters. Also, (I hate to say it) CUC might be slotted too high. They only have a couple of starters returning. And speaking of which . . .
Quote from: baseman201 on August 08, 2013, 10:52:19 AM
QuoteNope, that's the reality -- that's how many players were left after last season. A lot of seniors on last year's team but can't really say where the rest of the non-seniors went. More than 50 letterwinners from last season are not on the roster any longer.

Yikes, could be a tough year for CUC...

You could see that this might be a problem about two or three years ago. They had a core group from two or three classes, the last of which graduated last year, which brought them to the best stretch in their history. In the meantime, they were not only losing freshmen to attrition (generally about 50% - about average for many dIII programs - but last year they only kept about 43%), but they were losing upperclassmen and some freshmen who were playing major minutes.

Looking at last year's roster one could see that they weren't going to have many seniors this year, but even then they lost three or four rising seniors who started last year.

A good example of their situation is at quarterback. In the last four classes, they have brought in no less than nine quarterbacks. Only two of them - Jacob Koehler and a current sophomore who saw no varsity action last year - lasted more than one year on the roster. (Lucky for them that Koehler was so durable.)


Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 12, 2013, 06:35:26 PM
It'll be interesting to see how Benedictine compensates, having lost Borsellino to graduation.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 13, 2013, 05:28:20 PM
I agree, I am looking forward to seeing what the BU offense will look like this year, it will obviously look much different without Borselino in the backfield...

I can't believe camp is already upon us, I am very curious to see what the BU recruiting class looks like, it has not been updated yet on their roster, but I have heard good things.

Did any NACC teams start camp yet? I believe BU checks in tomorrow but do not officially start until Thursday.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 13, 2013, 10:07:28 PM
I think WLC starts their camp tomorrow.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 16, 2013, 08:40:04 AM
BU had 136'players report to camp!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on August 21, 2013, 12:29:01 PM
What's the early word on any of the camps this summer?

OT - I saw that Lonnie Pries brought 75 freshman into Concordia AA this year.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on August 22, 2013, 06:17:15 PM
Looks like CUC brought in a big FR class, good for them, they needed the depth after so many players left the program. 
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2013, 02:33:56 AM
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Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on August 23, 2013, 03:08:39 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on August 22, 2013, 06:17:15 PM
Looks like CUC brought in a big FR class, good for them, they needed the depth after so many players left the program.

True. Although the roster is currently not showing, it looked as though there were only about 23 or so holdovers from the previous year. This will be a rebuilding year for CUC.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 26, 2013, 11:14:40 AM
Due to construction on the Alternate routes around the Zoo interchange in Milwaukee. The main entrance to the Wisconsin Lutheran College Raabe Stadium on Watertown Plank Road is closed. To enter you must take the Underwood Parkway a little west of the main entrance and enter at the side gate closest to the stadium.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 28, 2013, 12:08:18 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on August 28, 2013, 10:58:43 AM
Kickoff 2013 rankings for each NACC team:

1.  xxx
2.  xxx)
3.  xxx
4.  xxx
5.  xxx
6.  xxx
7. xxx

Rankings for the MIAA teams NACC will play non-con:

1.  xxx
2.  xxx
3.  xxx
4.  xxx
5.  xxx
6.  xxx
7.  xxx

I'd rather have NACC fans pay for that info. At a glance, that isn't happening. Come on, folks! :)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 28, 2013, 05:34:16 PM
Heard WLC had a scrimmage vs. UW-EauClaire today-didn't find out anything further.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 31, 2013, 05:09:11 PM
First week of D3 College Football is one week away. Here is the first slate of NACC non-conference games. 2012 records are in parenthesis.

Augsburg (7-3) at Concordia Wisconsin (7-3, 6-1)
Concordia Chicago (10-1, 7-0) at Lake Forest (8-2)
Lakeland (2-8, 2-5) at Carroll (8-2)
Illinois Wesleyan (6-4) at Aurora (5-5, 4-3)
Rockford (2-8, 1-6) at UW-Stevens Point (2-8)
Wheaton (8-2) at Benedictine (5-5, 3-4)
Ripon (5-5) at Wisconsin Lutheran (7-3, 5-2)

Although they are not in the NACC anymore.....

Marantha Baptist (0-10, 0-7) at Martin Luther (4-6)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 04, 2013, 06:19:47 PM
I have the NACC going 2 & 5 this week, I hope the conference can prove me wrong! Good luck to everyones team!

Augsburg at Concordia Wisconsin-  CUW
Concordia Chicago at Lake Forest-  Lake Forest
Lakeland at Carroll-  Carroll
Illinois Wesleyan at Aurora- IWU
Rockford at UW-Stevens Point- Stevens Point
Wheaton at Benedictine-  Wheaton
Ripon at Wisconsin Lutheran- Wisconsin Lutheran
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
My opening week guesses:

Augsburg
Lake Forest
Carroll
Aurora
Stevens Point
Wheaton
Wisconsin Lutheran
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 05, 2013, 12:16:46 PM
Augsburg (7-3) at Concordia Wisconsin (7-3, 6-1): Could be an interesting game.

Concordia Chicago (10-1, 7-0) at Lake Forest (8-2): CUC gets drilled by a solid Lake Forest team.

Lakeland (2-8, 2-5) at Carroll (8-2): Over by halftime.

Illinois Wesleyan (6-4) at Aurora (5-5, 4-3): Can't really get a good read on Aurora from year to year.

Rockford (2-8, 1-6) at UW-Stevens Point (2-8): Pointers roll right along.

Wheaton (8-2) at Benedictine (5-5, 3-4): Wheaton is too strong for the Eagles to handle here.

Ripon (5-5) at Wisconsin Lutheran (7-3, 5-2): Warriors D shuts down the Hawks option attack.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on September 05, 2013, 03:23:19 PM
In order of confidence:
Lake Forest over CUC
Carroll over Lakeland
Wheaton over Benedictine
UWSP over Rockford
IWU over Aurora
WLC over Ripon
CUW over Augsburg

I must be pessimistic about the conference when my two least confident picks are my only two NACC wins. :(
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: beastmode on September 05, 2013, 04:12:07 PM
Week 1 Guesses
Lake Forest over CUC- CUC is starting one of two freshman quarterbacks and lost too many impact players from last year for various reasons. Could be a tough year for the Cougars
Carroll over Lakeland- Carroll is just too tough for the Muskies.
UWSP over Rockford- Rockford is improving but this one will not even be close either
IWU over Aurora- I don't know much about Aurora as a team this year but IWU is just on a different level than Aurora
Wheaton over Benedictine- Wheaton is going to be a good program this year and Benedictine lost a lot from last year. It will be interesting to see what Benedictine does this year
WLC over Ripon- WLC is going to be tough this year. Adding Janousky as OC is a huge step for them. Adding that to a defense that has been pretty stingy for some time is going to make them close to a complete team
CUW over Augsburg- CUW is the preseason favorite for the conference. They were only one overtime loss away from winning conference last year. 
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 11:47:40 AM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 05, 2013, 03:23:19 PM
I must be pessimistic about the conference when my two least confident picks are my only two NACC wins. :(

I must be more pessimistic than you I only have one ;). Good luck to all the NACC teams today as they kick off their season. I'm thinking about heading to WLC to watch them take on Ripon.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 02:36:51 PM
Some early NACC scores.

Lake Forest 7
Concordia Chicago 0

End 1st

Aurora 7
Illinois Wesleyan 14

13:36 2nd

No update on the Carroll-Lakeland or the Augsburg/CUW game. Both  probably delayed because of some thunderstorms coming down the Lake Michigan shoreline in the last few hours. 50/50 chance CUC/LF could see some delay as well.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 02:49:45 PM
Lake Forest 14
Concordia Chicago 3

9:31 2nd

Illinois Wesleyan 21
Aurora 7

8:10 2nd
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
Lake Forest 21
Concordia Chicago 3

Halftime-Lightning Delay

Illinois Wesleyan 42
Aurora 14

Start of the 4th

Carroll 7
Lakeland 0

Start of the 2nd

Augsburg 3
Concordia Wisconsin 0

8:54 1st
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 04:51:26 PM
Lake Forest 38
Concordia Chicago 3

2:44 3rd

Augsburg 31
Concordia Wisconsin 10

3:52 2nd

Carroll 14
Lakeland 12

Halftime

Illinois Wesleyan 48
Aurora 21

Final
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 05:58:02 PM
Lake Forest 45
Concordia Chicago 3

Final

Carroll 21
Lakeland 18

3:14 4th

Augsburg 51
Concordia Wisconsin 17

7:35 4th
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 08:31:08 PM
Carroll 27
Lakeland 18

Final

Concordia Wisconsin 51
Augsburg 17

Final

UW-Stevens Point 28
Rockford 7

Halftime

Ripon 7
Wisconsin Lutheran 7

13:29 2nd

Wheaton 7
Benedictine 7

2nd
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 09:08:42 PM
Ripon 17
Wisconsin Lutheran 10

Halftime

WLC is shooting themselves in the foot with penalties.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 10:34:38 PM
Ripon 31
Wisconsin Lutheran 24

Final

Warriors gave up too many big plays that kept many a Ripon drive alive during the game. Warriors take on Olivet next week in Michigan.

Wheaton 48
Benedictine 27

4th

Kinda want to see the recap on this one.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 11:03:21 PM
So the NACC goes 0-fer to start off the new season  :-\

Next weeks games are as follows.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Olivet
Macalester at Concordia Wisconsin
Loras at Rockford
Carthage at Lakeland
Chicago at Concordia Chicago
North Park at Benedictine

Bye: Aurora
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 07, 2013, 11:08:58 PM
Go figure former NACC member Maranatha beats Martin Luther College 56-54 to snap a 11 game losing streak.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on September 08, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Pretty dismal showing by the NACC. A few observations based on flimsy evidence:

1) I was actually impressed with Benedictine's offensive showing. (I was watching the video between UM-ND plays). The new RB looked decisive and there were holes to run through. Schulz looked good - as you hope a senior should. Yes, Wheaton put up a lot of points, but they're expected to be a quality offensive bunch even without Hibben.

2) Is Augsburg that good? I still expect CUW to be one of the conference's better teams, but they gave up 38 (or something like that) in the first half.

3) Tough to tell what Aurora is. IWU is supposed to be a really good team so it might be comparing apples and oranges (like CUW/Augsburg or BU/Wheaton) but the Titans' QB went 18-20 in a totally dominating offensive performance.

4) Lakeland looked okay defensively (on video) for the quarter I watched - they were in the game until right at the end.

5) No idea about WLC. Someone who saw the game fill me in on how the "new" offense looked with Janousky as OC. (I'm assuming they run the spread now.)

6) No idea about Rockford either.

7) CUC - Uh oh. I thought that their run defense vs. Lake Forest actually looked decent for a pretty good chunk of the game. They gave up a couple big passes in the first half for TD's, but when you allow the opponent to start their drives on your own 22, 21, and 4 yard line in the 2nd half due to interceptions, you're asking a lot of your defense.
     And the offense.  Ah, the offense.        I'm already looking back fondly at the days of yesteryear . . .
     Basically CUC is playing what should be a JV roster on Saturdays. It would be one thing to be breaking in freshmen quarterbacks with a solid group of veterans around them, but they just don't have that luxury. They'll get better and there seems to be some talent there, but in the meantime it could be rough.

8) At least congrats to the offensive juggernaut that is Maranatha!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 08, 2013, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 08, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
2) Is Augsburg that good?

Check their Kickoff ranking ...
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 08, 2013, 03:27:26 PM
From what I listened to on the broadcast the WLC offense is more up-tempo with a bit of no-huddle with some spread looks to it. I think the offense kinda left the defense (who had their hands full in slowing down Ripon's option) in the dust with quick scoring plays. I think the offense did alright but kinda have to get some longer drives going in order to keep the defense fresh.

I was pleasantly surprised with Lakeland hanging with Carroll for the entire game. I thought Carroll was supposed to be in the hunt for the Midwest crown but it's only week one here.

I have to agree with Aurora. They got 21 on the board against IWU but the defense could not stop IWU's QB.

Kinda knew going into the Augsburg/CUW game that CUW had their work cut out for them especially against Augsburg who was picked to finish 3rd in the MIAC this year.

Still trying to figure out the BU game. Wheaton held BU to 97 yards on the ground but they got 14 points off of 2 Wheaton turnovers.

Rockford scored 20 on UWSP but 13 of those came after UWSP was up 49-7. It seems they will be throwing the ball around a bit more judging by the 353 passing yards in that game.

For a moment in the first quarter I though CUC was doing reasonably well, but then they were absolutely flattened from the second quarter onward. They are in for a long season.

I laughed when I saw the Maranatha score......Then again it was against a UMAC team.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: USee on September 08, 2013, 11:12:41 PM
I posted some thoughts on Benedictine v Wheaton in the CCIW room but I was impressed by BU. They are going to surprise some people. Mcnulty is a very good running back and Schultz is a quality QB with Anders and Lopez out wide. Their OT are huge and physical. They are better than at least 3 teams in the CCIW in my opinion. I would be surprised if they don't win your league. dramatically better than the team Wheaton played a year ago.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 09, 2013, 10:27:50 AM
USee,

Thank you for the kind words about BU, I was pretty impressed with them on Saturday night, I definitely was not expecting them to play so well against a great team like Wheaton... Especially, after losing a number of our best players from last years team due to graduation.  It is unfortunate that a number of BU starters were not playing in the opening game, most notably, Monaco & Altieri...  Monaco is more of our big play threat this season and Altieri is the starting Middle linebacker, it would have been interesting to see them both in their on Saturday, maybe it enables BU to get another scoring chance or eliminates one of Wheaton's chances... 

Anyways, after seeing the game the other night it makes me feel much more optimistic about this season!  Good luck to Wheaton the rest of the way and congrats on the W on Saturday.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 09, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Week 2 Predictions

Wisconsin Lutheran at Olivet- Wisconsin Lutheran
Macalester at Concordia Wisconsin- CUW
Loras at Rockford- Loras
Carthage at Lakeland- Carthage
Chicago at Concordia Chicago- Chicago, in a close one.
North Park at Benedictine- BU

Looks like the conference has some better match-ups this week, I say the conference goes 3-3 this weekend.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: USee on September 11, 2013, 12:23:48 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 09, 2013, 10:27:50 AM
USee,

Thank you for the kind words about BU, I was pretty impressed with them on Saturday night, I definitely was not expecting them to play so well against a great team like Wheaton... Especially, after losing a number of our best players from last years team due to graduation.  It is unfortunate that a number of BU starters were not playing in the opening game, most notably, Monaco & Altieri...  Monaco is more of our big play threat this season and Altieri is the starting Middle linebacker, it would have been interesting to see them both in their on Saturday, maybe it enables BU to get another scoring chance or eliminates one of Wheaton's chances... 

Anyways, after seeing the game the other night it makes me feel much more optimistic about this season!  Good luck to Wheaton the rest of the way and congrats on the W on Saturday.

I haven't seen Monaco play but he will have a hard time displacing McNulty in my opinion. I was way more impressed with McNulty than I was with Borsellino last year. McNulty came from Morningside where he rushed for 1,200 yds in 12 games in 2010.  He is a very good D3 RB.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 12, 2013, 06:42:27 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 09, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Week 2 Predictions

Wisconsin Lutheran at Olivet- Wisconsin Lutheran
Macalester at Concordia Wisconsin- CUW
Loras at Rockford- Loras
Carthage at Lakeland- Carthage
Chicago at Concordia Chicago- Chicago, in a close one.
North Park at Benedictine- BU

Looks like the conference has some better match-ups this week, I say the conference goes 3-3 this weekend.

Benedictine
U of Chicago
Carthage
Loras
CUW
WLC
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on September 13, 2013, 05:44:23 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 12, 2013, 06:42:27 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 09, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Week 2 Predictions

Wisconsin Lutheran at Olivet- Wisconsin Lutheran
Macalester at Concordia Wisconsin- CUW
Loras at Rockford- Loras
Carthage at Lakeland- Carthage
Chicago at Concordia Chicago- Chicago, in a close one.
North Park at Benedictine- BU

Looks like the conference has some better match-ups this week, I say the conference goes 3-3 this weekend.

Benedictine
U of Chicago
Carthage
Loras
CUW
WLC

Ditto the above thoughts on the picks. (Too easy.)

Now let's go out on a limb and pick how many TD's the conference will score: 0-10; 11-15; 16-20; 21-25; 26-30; 31-40; 40+
I'm going with the bold prediction of 18 (16-20 range).
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 13, 2013, 05:58:41 PM
I agree with the 16-20
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 13, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
I'll go 21-25 TD's (closer to 21 than 25)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 14, 2013, 11:27:26 AM
WLC over Olivet
CUW over Macalester
Loras over Rockford
Carthage over Lakeland
Chicago over Concordia Chicago
Benedictine over North Park
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 14, 2013, 04:55:57 PM
The good.....

Concordia Wisconsin 20
Macalester 10

Final

The bad......

Loras 44
Rockford 27

Final

Chicago 23
Concordia Chicago 13

Final

The ugly.....

Olivet 14
Wisconsin Lutheran 10

Final

Carthage 52
Lakeland 6

Late 4th
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 14, 2013, 09:19:24 PM
BU up 17-0 at half...
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 14, 2013, 10:04:50 PM
BU up 24-10
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 14, 2013, 10:37:47 PM
30-10 BU up late 4th
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 14, 2013, 10:42:23 PM
36-10, 1 min left
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 14, 2013, 10:48:02 PM
Benedictine 36
NPU 10

BenU looked solid. NPU looked young.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 16, 2013, 04:20:02 PM
Benedictine       Kalamazoo- BU
Lakeland      Alma- Lakeland                     
CUW              Trine- Trine                              
Rockford      Olivet- Olivet      
WLC                   Hope- Hope    
Aurora      Albion- Aurora    
CUC              Adrian- Adrian      

I have the NAC winning 3 out of 7 games In the challenge series.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on September 17, 2013, 02:42:39 PM
Picks for the NACC-MIAA Challenge:

Adrian - CUC - CUC is too young for a veteran and tough Adrian outfit, although the Cougars were somewhat competitive in the last three quarters against Chicago.

Kalamazoo - BU - Benedictine looked pretty good in a loss to Wheaton and took care of business against North Park. If the Hornets find a way to scheme this into a win, the NACC is in trouble.

Olivet - Rockford - I thought Olivet would be a year or so away from being competitive, but by association: If Olivet is better than WLC, and I think that WLC is better than Rockford, then Olivet is better than Rockford. (But this never works the way you think it should in football, so who knows?)

Hope - WLC - Before the season began I would have picked WLC, but based on their first two games I'm going to go with Hope; too much offense for the Dutch.

Alma - Lakeland - It's hard to get a read on these two teams from their previous two games, as they both got smoked last week against vastly better teams. I'll go with Lakeland as they looked decent against Carroll in their opener.

Albion - Aurora - No idea. I'm freaked out that Albion got crushed by an admittedly very good Wheaton team and Aurora had the ability to hang around with IWU for a little while.

Trine - CUW - This could be a very competitive game in which I don't have a great deal of confidence in the pick. Bold prediction: whoever wins this game will win their conference.

I have 4-3 NACC, but four is the absolute maximum number of wins they get unless some MIAA teams come down with mass food poisoning or something. I could easily see the MIAA winning six, but the NACC was surprising last year. No sneaking up this year.

It's interesting how these teams are matched up. I realize that you have to go by last year's records, but I don't think that these matchups/rankings reflect the NACC's relative strength to each other this year.
CUC is "seeded" #1 based on last year's record but may easily be the cellar-dweller in the conference at the end of this year (although I hope not). Benedictine struggled down the stretch last year, but I think they were better than that last year and they are certainly better than their seeding this year. WLC may not be nearly as strong as last year's team was and might be a bad match-up with Hope. The better match-ups would be (to me):

Benedictine-Adrian
CUW-Trine (the same)
Aurora-Hope
WLC-Albion
Lakeland-Olivet
Rockford-Kalamazoo
CUC-Alma

I see Hope, Trine, and Adrian (with the Bulldogs as slight favorite) battling it out for the top spot in the MIAA and CUW and BU as the only real threats to win the NACC this year.

Let's hear your thoughts.


Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 17, 2013, 04:07:15 PM
Concordia Chicago at Adrian: CUC hung with an average Chicago team for the majority of the game but they will be over their heads against Adrian.

Benedictine at Kalamazoo: BU is looking solid so far and so is Kalamazoo as well. I think BU with their transfer running back will carry the day here.

Rockford at Olivet: Was considering to pick the Regents but Olivet proved that they are miles better than last year including an impressive win against WLC last week.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Hope: WLC is wondering what happened in their shocking loss to Olivet. Hope seems to be one of the contenders this year in the MIAA.

Lakeland at Alma: Alma looks like they are going to be in the basement this year in the MIAA. Lakeland has shown some improvement but this will be a barometer game for them.

Aurora at Albion: I have to agree here this game is a battle between two unknown teams. Aurora hung with IWU for a half in a losing effort while Albion got manhandled by Wheaton. I think Aurora wins a tight one.

Concordia Wisconsin at Trine: I think Trine showed a little more last week in beating Elmhurst.

Overall MIAA wins 4-3.

Fantasy MIAA-NACC Challenge Matchups

Trine-CUW
BU-Adrian
WLC-Albion
Aurora-Hope
Lakeland-Kalamazoo
Rockford-Olivet
CUC-Alma

Only CUW, Rockford's matchups I would leave alone.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 18, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
Congrats to the Players of the Week!

Benedictine's Jarrett Lecas and Michael McNulty and Concordia Wisconsin's Hunter Breunig have been named the Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference Defensive, Offensive and Special Teams Football Student-Athletes of the Week for events of Sept. 9-15, as selected by the league's sports information directors.

Lecas (Frankfort, Ill.) helped Benedictine (1-1) roll past North Park by intercepting a pair of passes, and returning one for a touchdown. The rookie defensive back also tied for the team lead with 11 tackles and broke up a pass.

McNulty (Elmhurst, Ill.) had 35 carries for 169 yards and a pair of touchdowns in the 36-10 win over North Park.

Breunig (Lodi, Wis.) averaged 48.3 yards per punt as he helped win the field position battle in a 20-10 CUW (1-1) victory over Macalester. The junior had a long punt of 60 yards in the win.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2013, 05:12:06 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 17, 2013, 04:07:15 PM
Concordia Chicago at Adrian: CUC hung with an average Chicago team for the majority of the game but they will be over their heads against Adrian.

Benedictine at Kalamazoo: BU is looking solid so far and so is Kalamazoo as well. I think BU with their transfer running back will carry the day here.

Rockford at Olivet: Was considering to pick the Regents but Olivet proved that they are miles better than last year including an impressive win against WLC last week.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Hope: WLC is wondering what happened in their shocking loss to Olivet. Hope seems to be one of the contenders this year in the MIAA.

Lakeland at Alma: Alma looks like they are going to be in the basement this year in the MIAA. Lakeland has shown some improvement but this will be a barometer game for them.

Aurora at Albion: I have to agree here this game is a battle between two unknown teams. Aurora hung with IWU for a half in a losing effort while Albion got manhandled by Wheaton. I think Aurora wins a tight one.

Concordia Wisconsin at Trine: I think Trine showed a little more last week in beating Elmhurst.

Overall MIAA wins 4-3.

Fantasy MIAA-NACC Challenge Matchups

Trine-CUW
BU-Adrian
WLC-Albion
Aurora-Hope
Lakeland-Kalamazoo
Rockford-Olivet
CUC-Alma

Only CUW, Rockford's matchups I would leave alone.

My Week 3 guesses:

CUC/Adrian:     Adrian
Ben/Kzoo:        BenU
Rockford/Olivet:    Olivet in a tight one.
WLC/Hope:            Hope
Lakeland/Alma;      Lakeland
Aurora/Albion:        Albion
CUW/Trine:             Trine

Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 21, 2013, 01:53:13 PM
Early game updates

Hope 3
Wisconsin Lutheran 7

Half

Benedictine 7
Kalamazoo 7

Half

Alma 20
Lakeland 7

Half

Trine 24
Concordia Wisconsin 14

2:27 2nd

Olivet 7
Rockford 0

Half

Albion 14
Aurora 0

10:46 2nd
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 21, 2013, 02:16:01 PM
Some stats from the halftime games.

Wisconsin Lutheran-Hope

Total Offense

Wisconsin Lutheran: 93 (59 Rush, 34 Passing)
Hope: 249 (80 Rush, 169 Passing)

First Downs

Wisconsin Lutheran: 5
Hope: 15

Turnovers

Wisconsin Lutheran: 0
Hope: 1

Benedictine-Kalamazoo

Total Offense

Benedictine: 56 (10 Rush, 46 Pass)
Kalamazoo: 221 (40 Rush, 181 Pass)

First Downs

Benedictine: 2
Kalamazoo: 11

Rockford-Olivet

Total Offense

Rockford: 105 (70 Rush, 35 Pass)
Olivet: 161 (58 Rush, 103 Pass)

First Downs

Rockford: 4
Olivet: 9

Lakeland-Alma

Total Offense

Lakeland: 242
Alma: 200

First Downs

Lakeland: 10
Alma: 8

Turnovers

Lakeland: 2
Alma: 1

Concordia Wisconsin-Trine

Total Offense

Concordia Wisconsin: 146 (5 Rush, 141 Pass)
Trine: 213 (90 Rush, 123 Pass)

First Downs

Concordia Wisconsin: 8
Trine: 11

Turnovers

Concordia Wisconsin: 1
Trine: 1
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 21, 2013, 02:51:26 PM
Hope 21
Wisconsin Lutheran 7

3rd

Ugly 3rd for the Warriors. Gave up a saftey, and two touchdowns while the offense can't get things in gear.

Benedictine 14
Kalamazoo 10

3rd

Concordia Wisconsin 24
Trine 14

3rd

Alma 20
Lakeland 7

3rd

Olivet 14
Rockford 0

3rd

Albion 14
Aurora 3

Half
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 21, 2013, 04:01:02 PM
BU won 28-23
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 21, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 21, 2013, 04:01:02 PM
BU won 28-23

Hope 37
Wisconsin Lutheran 7

Final

Trine 47
Concordia Wisconsin 41

Final

Lakeland 21
Alma 20

Final

Olivet 34
Rockford 7

Final

Albion 38
Aurora 20

Final

MIAA has clinched year two of the Challenge 4-2 with one game left.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 24, 2013, 04:43:34 PM
Well since only Aurora is playing this weekend, let's figure out what the conference is shaping up to be before conference play begins.

NACC went 4-16 out of conference the first three weeks including a 2-5 NACC/MIAA challenge. All the NACC teams will play Maranatha as a non-conference opponent and that will inflate the out of conference record a bit before the season ends.

Benedictine: They look like the early frontrunner with solid wins over North Park and Kalamazoo. They gave Wheaton fits in the season opener. Their running back McNulty has been solid for them and they have a solid QB in Schultz. I think as of right now they are the top dog at the moment.

Concordia Wisconsin: The Falcons have probably one of the best QB's in the conference in Damaschke and he'll win games throwing the ball around. The bigger question is will they be able to establish some sort of running game to complement the passing game. Their leading rusher is Damaschke but if they can't get any sort of run game going, then the opposing defenses will make it difficult to complete passes.

Wisconsin Lutheran: The Warriors could've been easily 2-1 instead of 0-3 but they have experienced some growing pains with a new head coach and a new offensive attack. The offense with the faster pace have left the defense in the dust at times and that hurt them against Ripon. They also have to improve a 13-46 third down conversion rate which is near the bottom of the conference. Overall the defense is good enough to keep the Warriors in contention but the offense is still a work in progress.

Aurora: I literally don't have much of a clue about this team. They looked decent against IWU and Albion but then again they have played tough competition. Maybe this weekend's matchup against Millikin will tell us a little more about what the Spartans are all about.

Lakeland: The Muskies hung tough against Carroll got crushed by Carthage and rallied to beat Alma. I think Lakeland will sneak up on a few teams if they don't bring their A-game but at the same time I do not see them being near the top of the conference just yet. They are still a few years away in that regard.

Rockford: Now raise your hand if you though Rockford would have the best offense in the conference after three weeks? Their QB (who I won't try to spell out) leads the conference in passing yards per game and is tied for the lead in passing TD's. However, with that said their defense hasn't been keeping the opponent out of the end zone. The bigger test to see if they have improved enough to get out of the basement will come in conference play.

Concordia Chicago: Well the Cougars had one respectable game sandwiched between two blowouts. They are going to struggle to be in a bunch of conference games. They will get better as the season goes on but right now they could very well be looking at a winless season looking at it.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 24, 2013, 04:47:09 PM
The MIAA-NACC Challenge series has been extended through the 2017 season. It seems that instead of meeting in week three, the Challenge will be a drawn out through conference play with a MIAA-NACC matchup every week during conference play. Matchups will still be determined by final standings of the previous year.

http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20130923j0pmhl (http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20130923j0pmhl)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 25, 2013, 10:05:36 AM
Congrats to the players of the week!

Lakeland's Cody Lemke and Benedictine's Blake Anders and R.J. Bain have been named the Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference Defensive, Offensive and Special Teams Football Student-Athletes of the Week for events of Sept. 16-22, as selected by the league's sports information directors.

Lemke (Kewaskum, Wis.) tallied a career-high 17 tackles -- which included 11 solo -- in the Muskies' (1-2) 21-20 comeback win over Alma. The senior defensive back added two tackles for loss and a forced fumble in the victory.

Anders (Mokena, Ill.) caught a pair of touchdowns of over 40 yards as Benedictine (2-1) defeated Kalamazoo, 28-23. The sophomore wide receiver reeled in 173 yards on seven catches.

Bain (Royal Oak, Mich.) punted seven times in the win at Kalamazoo, placing two inside the 20. The sophomore averaged 41.4 yards per punt.

Other defensive nominations: Ryan Stec, Benedictine; Dustin Veldboom, Concordia Wisconsin; Aaron Allister, Wisconsin Lutheran;

Other offensive nominations: Garrett Wenzelburger, Concordia Wisconsin; Kezlow Smith, Lakeland;

Other special teams nominations: Ramsey Riehl, Lakeland.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 30, 2013, 06:19:13 PM
Rockford vs. Concordia Chicago- Rockford   
Benedictine vs. Concordia Wisconsin- I'll take BU in a tight one, this game gives us the front runner for the conference championship... In my opinion.
Wisconsin Lutheran vs. Lakeland- WLC      
Maranatha vs. Aurora- Aurora
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 02, 2013, 03:30:53 PM
Rockford at Concordia Chicago: Rockford finally escapes the NACC basement.

Benedictine at Concordia Wisconsin: BU in a tight game.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Lakeland: At this point Lakeland is still a rebuilding team. Wisconsin Lutheran gets their first win.

Maranatha at Aurora: No explanation needed really.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 03, 2013, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 02, 2013, 03:30:53 PM
Rockford at Concordia Chicago: Rockford finally escapes the NACC basement.

Benedictine at Concordia Wisconsin: BU in a tight game.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Lakeland: At this point Lakeland is still a rebuilding team. Wisconsin Lutheran gets their first win.

Maranatha at Aurora: No explanation needed really.

WLCALUM83's guesses:

Rockford
CUW        (mainly because they're at home)
WLC
Aurora
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on October 04, 2013, 03:07:48 PM
My picks:
CUC (Please)
Benedictine (Should be a fine game)
WLC (Because I still believe)
Aurora (Will stop the MBBC juggernaut)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 02:43:40 PM
Rockford 14
Concordia Chicago 14

2nd

Benedictine 14
Concordia Wisconsin 7

2nd

Aurora 38
Maranatha 6

1st

Don't have any score updates from the Wisconsin Lutheran-Lakeland game. They are having technical issues up in Sheboygan.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 03:02:43 PM
Aurora 52
Maranatha 13

2nd

Rockford 14
Concordia Chicago 14

Half

Benedictine 21
Concordia Wisconsin 14

2nd
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 03:17:23 PM
We have our first WLC-Lakeland update

Wisconsin Lutheran 14
Lakeland 14

2nd

Benedictine 21
Concordia Wisconsin 14

Halftime

Rockford 14
Concordia Chicago 14

Halftime

Aurora 61
Maranatha 13

2nd
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 03:28:20 PM
WLC-Lakeland is under a lightning delay as the Warriors lead 21-14.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
Well it's finally Halftime in Aurora

Aurora 63
Maranatha 13

Stats

Rushing Yards (att-yards-TD)

Aurora: 32-231-5 TD
Maranatha: 17-(-39)-0

Passing Yards

Aurora: 6-9 104 yds 1 TD 0 INT
Maranatha: 10-16 151 yds 2 TD 0 INT

Aurora's D has scored two defensive TD's and a safety.

Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 04:43:45 PM
Aurora 77
Maranatha 41

4th

Concordia Chicago 38
Rockford 28

Final

Benedictine 27
Concordia Wisconsin 21

4th

CUW is on Benedictine's side of the 50 and driving with 3:02 left.

The Lakeland-WLC game will restart at 3:50 local time and there will be not halftime.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 04:54:26 PM
Concordia Wisconsin 28
Benedictine 27

Final
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 05:02:50 PM
Another lightning delay at Lakeland. Restart at 4:20 PM
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 06:13:50 PM
Heading to the 4th

Wisconsin Lutheran 27
Lakeland 26
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 05, 2013, 06:39:20 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 34
Lakeland 34

3:51 left in regulation
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 07, 2013, 04:56:52 PM
Here is week five's matchups:

Concordia Chicago (1-3) at Wisconsin Lutheran (0-4)
Aurora (1-3) at Benedictine (2-2)
Concordia Wisconsin (2-2) at Maranatha (1-3)
Lakeland (2-2) at Rockford (0-4)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 07, 2013, 06:06:15 PM
WLC
BU
CUW
Lakeland

Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 09, 2013, 11:26:34 AM
Concordia Chicago (1-3) at Wisconsin Lutheran (0-4): WLC isn't that far away from being 2-2 or 3-1 on the season. The earn a win over CUC in memory of Dean Mischke who passed away this week.

Aurora (1-3) at Benedictine (2-2): Aurora put up 63 against Maranatha in one half. Their defense (even though the majority of the points scored by the Crusaders were against the bench players) will get a workout in this one.

Concordia Wisconsin (2-2) at Maranatha (1-3): CUW cost me dearly in the National Confidence Pick 'Em last week but they picked up a nice win and are for right now the front-runner in the NACC. Maranatha got a rude awakening by Aurora allowing 63 points in one half on the way to giving up 84 (this is one week after WLC's namesake high school gave up 84 (while scoring 82) in a high school game). I think this won't be any close either.

Lakeland (2-2) at Rockford (0-4): Lakeland is going to be one of those teams that won't go away easily this season. Rockford still has to play defense if they want to escape the NACC cellar this season. Muskies roll here.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on October 09, 2013, 02:27:14 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 09, 2013, 11:26:34 AM
Concordia Chicago (1-3) at Wisconsin Lutheran (0-4): WLC isn't that far away from being 2-2 or 3-1 on the season. The earn a win over CUC in memory of Dean Mischke who passed away this week.

Aurora (1-3) at Benedictine (2-2): Aurora put up 63 against Maranatha in one half. Their defense (even though the majority of the points scored by the Crusaders were against the bench players) will get a workout in this one.

Concordia Wisconsin (2-2) at Maranatha (1-3): CUW cost me dearly in the National Confidence Pick 'Em last week but they picked up a nice win and are for right now the front-runner in the NACC. Maranatha got a rude awakening by Aurora allowing 63 points in one half on the way to giving up 84 (this is one week after WLC's namesake high school gave up 84 (while scoring 82) in a high school game). I think this won't be any close either.

Lakeland (2-2) at Rockford (0-4): Lakeland is going to be one of those teams that won't go away easily this season. Rockford still has to play defense if they want to escape the NACC cellar this season. Muskies roll here.

Wait a minute there, Captain. Are you sure that wasn't an early season basketball game? Seriously, 166 points in a high school game? Let's do the math:

1) Each team scored about the same amount of points, and let's say they're all touchdowns with extra points, so 84 / 7 = 12 TDs EACH and 24 TDs total.

2) A high school game only has 48 minutes. 48/24 = 2 minutes per TD.

3) Let's say both teams run a hurry-up spread and run a play and then get off another play every 25 seconds (8-10 seconds for the play and 17 seconds to get back to line of scrimmage, signal the play, and get the snap off) which is Oregon-fast. If both teams threw a ton and got a lot of timeouts for first downs that could explain a little, but my guess is that there was a lot of running up and down the field on this one.

4) 2 minutes (120 seconds) per TD / 25 seconds = a TD every 4 plays or so.

I'd love to see the scoring drives for that game! (As well as number of pick 6s, kick returns for TDs, etc.) 

Was this possibly 8-man football? What was the total yardage? Number of pass attempts? Was the clock operator awake?

Picks:
- I'm getting greedy and going with my heart and not my head: CUC  over WLC. (CUC gets to say hello to their former OC.)
- CUW over MBBC. By many.
- Bendictine over Aurora. (I'm curious how strong Aurora is. My guess is not as strong as BU.)
- Lakeland tops Rockford. (I could see a lot of points in this one.)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 09, 2013, 03:46:04 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 09, 2013, 02:27:14 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 09, 2013, 11:26:34 AM
Concordia Chicago (1-3) at Wisconsin Lutheran (0-4): WLC isn't that far away from being 2-2 or 3-1 on the season. The earn a win over CUC in memory of Dean Mischke who passed away this week.

Aurora (1-3) at Benedictine (2-2): Aurora put up 63 against Maranatha in one half. Their defense (even though the majority of the points scored by the Crusaders were against the bench players) will get a workout in this one.

Concordia Wisconsin (2-2) at Maranatha (1-3): CUW cost me dearly in the National Confidence Pick 'Em last week but they picked up a nice win and are for right now the front-runner in the NACC. Maranatha got a rude awakening by Aurora allowing 63 points in one half on the way to giving up 84 (this is one week after WLC's namesake high school gave up 84 (while scoring 82) in a high school game). I think this won't be any close either.

Lakeland (2-2) at Rockford (0-4): Lakeland is going to be one of those teams that won't go away easily this season. Rockford still has to play defense if they want to escape the NACC cellar this season. Muskies roll here.

Wait a minute there, Captain. Are you sure that wasn't an early season basketball game? Seriously, 166 points in a high school game? Let's do the math:

1) Each team scored about the same amount of points, and let's say they're all touchdowns with extra points, so 84 / 7 = 12 TDs EACH and 24 TDs total.

2) A high school game only has 48 minutes. 48/24 = 2 minutes per TD.

3) Let's say both teams run a hurry-up spread and run a play and then get off another play every 25 seconds (8-10 seconds for the play and 17 seconds to get back to line of scrimmage, signal the play, and get the snap off) which is Oregon-fast. If both teams threw a ton and got a lot of timeouts for first downs that could explain a little, but my guess is that there was a lot of running up and down the field on this one.

4) 2 minutes (120 seconds) per TD / 25 seconds = a TD every 4 plays or so.

I'd love to see the scoring drives for that game! (As well as number of pick 6s, kick returns for TDs, etc.) 

Was this possibly 8-man football? What was the total yardage? Number of pass attempts? Was the clock operator awake?

Picks:
- I'm getting greedy and going with my heart and not my head: CUC  over WLC. (CUC gets to say hello to their former OC.)
- CUW over MBBC. By many.
- Bendictine over Aurora. (I'm curious how strong Aurora is. My guess is not as strong as BU.)
- Lakeland tops Rockford. (I could see a lot of points in this one.)

It wasn't a basketball game that's for sure or a 8-man game (That reminds me the highest scoring 8-man game only totaled 160 points which Wayland Academy beat Maranatha Baptist Academy 84-76). Highest point total regardless of 8 or 11 man belongs to Gibraltar who scored 90 in 8-man action.

Story with Box Score:

http://www.livinglakecountry.com/oconomowocfocus/sports/records-shattered-as-cooney-tops-wisco-84-82-b99108806z1-225614302.html (http://www.livinglakecountry.com/oconomowocfocus/sports/records-shattered-as-cooney-tops-wisco-84-82-b99108806z1-225614302.html)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 10, 2013, 08:16:41 AM
WLC
BU
CUW
Lakeland
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 12, 2013, 04:24:42 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 28
Concordia Chicago 6

Halftime

Benedictine 26
Aurora 17

4th

Lakeland 14
Rockford 0

Halftime

Concordia Wisconsin 74?
Maranatha 0

4th

Whoever they have doing the play by play for Maranatha, they really need to speak up. Could barely hear them over the field noise.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 12, 2013, 05:02:55 PM
Concordia Wisconsin 70
Maranatha 14

Final

Benedictine 33
Aurora 23

Final

Wisconsin Lutheran 28
Concordia Chicago 6

3rd

Lakeland 28
Rockford 7

3rd
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 12, 2013, 06:54:38 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 49
Concordia Chicago 13

Final

Lakeland 35
Rockford 21

Final
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 13, 2013, 12:58:54 AM
Some thoughts as we are already halfway done with the season.

Concordia Wisconsin has established themselves as the frontrunner. They can hit a defense with running plays but they rely on Damaschke and his arm (and his legs) to carry them to victory.

Benedictine despite losing late to CUW has been solid. Kinda balanced on their offensive attack with Schultz in the passing game and McNulty running the ball. Defense has been solid otherwise.

Lakeland is kinda a surprise here as they got a OT win over WLC and beat Rockford handily. However I think they are still a rebuilding team at this point. Games against Aurora, Benedictine and Concordia Wisconsin in the Cheese Bowl will decided how far that program has come.

Aurora is going to be a enigma going forward. Yes they looked impressive against Maranatha (which isn't saying much) yet they were soundly beaten by Benedictine this week. Next week's game against WLC will decide where they are heading in the second half of the season.

Wisconsin Lutheran is only a handful of plays away from being 4-1 instead of 1-4.  I wonder how long the leash is on Dyrssen after throwing 5 picks today against CUC. With games like Aurora, Benedictine, and CUW remaining they have to clean up their act on the offensive side of the ball. The Defense has played well, but in times where the offense is stagnant, they got worn down.

Concordia Chicago saw there NACC winning streak end in a blowout loss to WLC but they are young this year and they are going to take their lumps this season and next.

You have to think what it will take for Rockford to finally climb out of the NACC cellar in football. Maybe the lack of a running game is the problem. They rank near the bottom of the league in rushing yards per game while ranking 1st in passing yards per game. Aabed Nekrawesh has been a prolific passer and leads the league in TD's but also leads in INT's. As a result the Regents can throw up points on the scoreboard but their defense has been less than stellar giving up 40 points per game.

As for the former NACC member Maranatha you may ask??? Well outside of their season opening win over Martin Luther they have struggled to stay with teams. In their two games against NACC teams they have been outscored 154-55 being outgained 1013 to 408. Can't imagine how life would be when the NACC-MIAA interlock agreement takes place starting next season?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 15, 2013, 12:37:57 AM
Week Six Games:

Concordia Wisconsin at Concordia Chicago
Aurora at Wisconsin Lutheran
Benedictine at Rockford
Maranatha at Lakeland
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 17, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
Concordia Wisconsin at Concordia Chicago: CUW routs CUC in the battle of Concordia's

Aurora at Wisconsin Lutheran: Picking it because it's WLC's homecoming and they finally got the offense to click last week.

Benedictine at Rockford: This should be over by halftime.

Maranatha at Lakeland: Lakeland's surprising run continues.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 18, 2013, 11:36:35 PM
CUW
WLC
Ben U
Lakeland
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on October 19, 2013, 09:00:49 AM
CUW takes out four years of close-but-no-cigar frustration and takes it to CUC.
BU big over Rockford
WLC hitting their stride and defeats Aurora
Lakeland large over Maranatha in Maranatha's "One-Year-Later" Farewell Tour
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 19, 2013, 05:53:45 PM
Concordia Wisconsin 48
Concordia Chicago 42

Final

Lakeland 55
Maranatha 14

Final

Benedictine 30
Rockford 13

Final

Wisconsin Lutheran 21
Aurora 13

Final
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 19, 2013, 08:39:30 PM
NACC Standings after today's games:

1. Concordia Wisconsin 4-2 (2-0)
2. Lakeland 4-2 (2-0)
3. Benedictine 4-2 (2-1)
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 2-4 (2-1)
5. Concordia Chicago 1-5 (1-2)
6. Aurora 1-5 (0-2)
7. Rockford 0-6 (0-3)

Half game separates four teams.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 22, 2013, 02:11:43 PM
This week's matchups

Concordia Chicago at Aurora
Wisconsin Lutheran at Benedictine
Lakeland at Concordia Wisconsin
Rockford at Maranatha
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on October 22, 2013, 02:18:17 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 09, 2013, 03:46:04 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 09, 2013, 02:27:14 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 09, 2013, 11:26:34 AM
Concordia Chicago (1-3) at Wisconsin Lutheran (0-4): WLC isn't that far away from being 2-2 or 3-1 on the season. The earn a win over CUC in memory of Dean Mischke who passed away this week.

Aurora (1-3) at Benedictine (2-2): Aurora put up 63 against Maranatha in one half. Their defense (even though the majority of the points scored by the Crusaders were against the bench players) will get a workout in this one.

Concordia Wisconsin (2-2) at Maranatha (1-3): CUW cost me dearly in the National Confidence Pick 'Em last week but they picked up a nice win and are for right now the front-runner in the NACC. Maranatha got a rude awakening by Aurora allowing 63 points in one half on the way to giving up 84 (this is one week after WLC's namesake high school gave up 84 (while scoring 82) in a high school game). I think this won't be any close either.

Lakeland (2-2) at Rockford (0-4): Lakeland is going to be one of those teams that won't go away easily this season. Rockford still has to play defense if they want to escape the NACC cellar this season. Muskies roll here.

Wait a minute there, Captain. Are you sure that wasn't an early season basketball game? Seriously, 166 points in a high school game? Let's do the math:

1) Each team scored about the same amount of points, and let's say they're all touchdowns with extra points, so 84 / 7 = 12 TDs EACH and 24 TDs total.

2) A high school game only has 48 minutes. 48/24 = 2 minutes per TD.

3) Let's say both teams run a hurry-up spread and run a play and then get off another play every 25 seconds (8-10 seconds for the play and 17 seconds to get back to line of scrimmage, signal the play, and get the snap off) which is Oregon-fast. If both teams threw a ton and got a lot of timeouts for first downs that could explain a little, but my guess is that there was a lot of running up and down the field on this one.

4) 2 minutes (120 seconds) per TD / 25 seconds = a TD every 4 plays or so.

I'd love to see the scoring drives for that game! (As well as number of pick 6s, kick returns for TDs, etc.) 

Was this possibly 8-man football? What was the total yardage? Number of pass attempts? Was the clock operator awake?

Picks:
- I'm getting greedy and going with my heart and not my head: CUC  over WLC. (CUC gets to say hello to their former OC.)
- CUW over MBBC. By many.
- Bendictine over Aurora. (I'm curious how strong Aurora is. My guess is not as strong as BU.)
- Lakeland tops Rockford. (I could see a lot of points in this one.)

It wasn't a basketball game that's for sure or a 8-man game (That reminds me the highest scoring 8-man game only totaled 160 points which Wayland Academy beat Maranatha Baptist Academy 84-76). Highest point total regardless of 8 or 11 man belongs to Gibraltar who scored 90 in 8-man action.

Story with Box Score:

http://www.livinglakecountry.com/oconomowocfocus/sports/records-shattered-as-cooney-tops-wisco-84-82-b99108806z1-225614302.html (http://www.livinglakecountry.com/oconomowocfocus/sports/records-shattered-as-cooney-tops-wisco-84-82-b99108806z1-225614302.html)

i know this is old, but I just saw it.  You know what's most amazing about that 84-82 game?  There were no points scored in the first ten minutes, and it was 8-7 at the end of the first quarter.  The fireworks didn't really start til the second quarter (eight touchdowns scored in 2nd quarter, seven in 3rd, six in 4th).
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 22, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 22, 2013, 02:18:17 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 09, 2013, 03:46:04 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 09, 2013, 02:27:14 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 09, 2013, 11:26:34 AM
Concordia Chicago (1-3) at Wisconsin Lutheran (0-4): WLC isn't that far away from being 2-2 or 3-1 on the season. The earn a win over CUC in memory of Dean Mischke who passed away this week.

Aurora (1-3) at Benedictine (2-2): Aurora put up 63 against Maranatha in one half. Their defense (even though the majority of the points scored by the Crusaders were against the bench players) will get a workout in this one.

Concordia Wisconsin (2-2) at Maranatha (1-3): CUW cost me dearly in the National Confidence Pick 'Em last week but they picked up a nice win and are for right now the front-runner in the NACC. Maranatha got a rude awakening by Aurora allowing 63 points in one half on the way to giving up 84 (this is one week after WLC's namesake high school gave up 84 (while scoring 82) in a high school game). I think this won't be any close either.

Lakeland (2-2) at Rockford (0-4): Lakeland is going to be one of those teams that won't go away easily this season. Rockford still has to play defense if they want to escape the NACC cellar this season. Muskies roll here.

Wait a minute there, Captain. Are you sure that wasn't an early season basketball game? Seriously, 166 points in a high school game? Let's do the math:

1) Each team scored about the same amount of points, and let's say they're all touchdowns with extra points, so 84 / 7 = 12 TDs EACH and 24 TDs total.

2) A high school game only has 48 minutes. 48/24 = 2 minutes per TD.

3) Let's say both teams run a hurry-up spread and run a play and then get off another play every 25 seconds (8-10 seconds for the play and 17 seconds to get back to line of scrimmage, signal the play, and get the snap off) which is Oregon-fast. If both teams threw a ton and got a lot of timeouts for first downs that could explain a little, but my guess is that there was a lot of running up and down the field on this one.

4) 2 minutes (120 seconds) per TD / 25 seconds = a TD every 4 plays or so.

I'd love to see the scoring drives for that game! (As well as number of pick 6s, kick returns for TDs, etc.) 

Was this possibly 8-man football? What was the total yardage? Number of pass attempts? Was the clock operator awake?

Picks:
- I'm getting greedy and going with my heart and not my head: CUC  over WLC. (CUC gets to say hello to their former OC.)
- CUW over MBBC. By many.
- Bendictine over Aurora. (I'm curious how strong Aurora is. My guess is not as strong as BU.)
- Lakeland tops Rockford. (I could see a lot of points in this one.)

It wasn't a basketball game that's for sure or a 8-man game (That reminds me the highest scoring 8-man game only totaled 160 points which Wayland Academy beat Maranatha Baptist Academy 84-76). Highest point total regardless of 8 or 11 man belongs to Gibraltar who scored 90 in 8-man action.

Story with Box Score:

http://www.livinglakecountry.com/oconomowocfocus/sports/records-shattered-as-cooney-tops-wisco-84-82-b99108806z1-225614302.html (http://www.livinglakecountry.com/oconomowocfocus/sports/records-shattered-as-cooney-tops-wisco-84-82-b99108806z1-225614302.html)

i know this is old, but I just saw it.  You know what's most amazing about that 84-82 game?  There were no points scored in the first ten minutes, and it was 8-7 at the end of the first quarter.  The fireworks didn't really start til the second quarter (eight touchdowns scored in 2nd quarter, seven in 3rd, six in 4th).

The funny thing is that when I was on break from work (8:00ish) it was 36-35....I thought that was the final score until I turned on the radio and much to my surprise it was only the halftime.  :o
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 22, 2013, 04:44:46 PM
Concordia Chicago at Aurora- AU
Wisconsin Lutheran at Benedictine- BU
Lakeland at Concordia Wisconsin- CUW
Rockford at Maranatha- Rockford
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on October 22, 2013, 09:59:52 PM
CUC at Aurora - CUC is playing better than earlier, but defense still has some issues. Aurora scores enough.

WLC at Benedictine - Benedictine a little too strong for WLC although if Benedictine gets down early I could see WLC pulling the upset seeing that BU's chances at the conference crown motivation is probably not there.

Lakeland at CUW - CUW saw CUC put up a bunch of yards on them last week, but won't let a resurgent Lakeland squad get in their way of a conference crown, although this might be an entertaining game.

Rockford at Maranatha - Rockford gets into the win column with too much air power for the Crusaders.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 25, 2013, 12:14:00 AM
Concordia Chicago at Aurora: Won't be surprised if CUC pull this one off. They have been playing better recently than compared to the beginning of the year. However Aurora has the talent edge here.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Benedictine: Actually I'm going with my alma mater. I think WLC's offense is starting to click. The big question is can the defense contain Schultz and McNulty for four quarters?

Lakeland at Concordia Wisconsin: Lakeland hits the tougher portion of their schedule here. Concordia wins by a comfortable margin.

Rockford at Maranatha: Rockford's passing attack will send the Crusader defense running for cover. Probably the closest game for the Crusaders against an NACC foe this year.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 26, 2013, 06:19:26 AM
Aurora
WLC  in a tight one
CUW
Rockford
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 26, 2013, 03:06:47 PM
Aurora 28
Concordia Chicago 7

2nd

Rockford 21
Maranatha 13

2nd

Lakeland 14
Concordia Wisconsin 14

2nd

Wisconsin Lutheran 20
Benedictine 0

Halftime
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 26, 2013, 03:35:22 PM
Concordia Wisconsin 21
Lakeland 14

Halftime

Aurora 28
Concordia Chicago 14

3rd
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 26, 2013, 05:15:24 PM
Rockford 34
Maranatha 13

Final

Aurora 47
Concordia Chicago 33

Final

Concordia Wisconsin 45
Lakeland 28

Final

Benedictine 34
Wisconsin Lutheran 28

Final

WLC blows a 20 point halftime lead and loses in overtime.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 30, 2013, 05:28:54 PM
Week Eight:

Concordia Wisconsin at Rockford: Well at least Rockford beat Maranatha this year. This won't be close.

Benedictine at Concordia Chicago: BU takes care of business.

Aurora at Lakeland: I think this will go either way. Lakeland hung around for most of the game against CUW and I think this will be an even matchup.

Maranatha at Wisconsin Lutheran: Maranatha had it's closest game against the NACC last week against Rockford. However they run into a bunch of angry Warriors who fell agonizingly short against Benedictine in overtime. I think that 61 points that WLC dropped on Maranatha two years ago could be in danger of falling.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2013, 06:05:24 PM
CUW
Benedictine
Aurora
WLC
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 02, 2013, 02:43:10 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 35
Maranatha 0

End 1st

Lakeland 14
Aurora 7

2nd

Concordia Wisconsin 45
Rockford 7

3rd

Benedictine 20
Concordia Chicago 14

Half
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on November 02, 2013, 03:04:56 PM
Anybody out there know what happened to Benedictine's transfer running back? He hasn't appeared in the CUC-BU game (although Bennie's other RB has had success so far).  Pretty tight game so far although quite sloppy in the first half with penalties and turnovers.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on November 02, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
And the Cougars have their traditional 2nd half defensive meltdown. BU with two quick TD's to give themselves some breathing room.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 02, 2013, 03:48:36 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 42
Maranatha 0

3rd

Benedictine 34
Concordia Chicago 20

3rd

Lakeland 21
Aurora 14

3rd

Concordia Wisconsin 55
Rockford 13

Final
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 02, 2013, 04:03:33 PM
He sprained his ancle in last weeks game...
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 02, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
BU wins 48-27
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 02, 2013, 04:58:07 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 56
Maranatha 6

Final

Lakeland 35
Aurora 32

Final
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 05, 2013, 04:05:48 PM
Second to last week of Football for many.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Rockford
Concordia Chicago at Lakeland
Aurora at Concordia Wisconsin
Benedictine at Maranatha
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 05, 2013, 05:19:40 PM
WLC big over Rockford

Lakeland over CUC

CUW over AU- AU always has the ability to sneak up on someone, but I don't see it happening. CUW locks up the AQ with a win this weekend.

BU big over Maranatha
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on November 07, 2013, 07:02:27 AM
WLC at Rockford - Not enough defense for Rockford
Aurora at CUW - Too many weapons for CUW
CUC at Lakeland - Not nearly enough defense for CUC. Lakeland's playing pretty well this year from what I can gather.
Benedictine at Maranatha - BU gets an enjoyable drive through the Wisconsin countryside as well as a blowout win.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 07, 2013, 12:09:46 PM
Aurora at CUW: Too many offensive threats for the Spartans to account for.

CUC at Lakeland: Lakeland has surprised many with their nice season.

Benedictine at Marantha: Another blowout for the Crusaders is in store.

WLC at Rockford: This is the most played series for both schools but however it has become increasing one-sided as WLC has won five in a row. WLC's secondary may get a workout from the Rockford QB but the Regents lack defense and at the end of the day WLC makes it six in a row over Rockford in a blowout.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 09, 2013, 07:15:37 AM
Aurora
Lakeland
Benedictine
WLC
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 09, 2013, 05:04:33 PM
Lakeland 62
Concordia Chicago 7

Final

Lakeland led 55-0 at halftime.

Benedictine 55
Maranatha 13

Again nothing to see here.

Concordia Wisconsin 49
Aurora 41

Final

Concordia Wisconsin clinches a share of the NACC crown and has clinched the auto-bid to the postseason. Though they can click on offense, their defense has shown some cause for concern lately.

Wisconsin Lutheran 27
Rockford 12

Final

The Good: WLC held Rockford to 4/14 on third downs and 44 yards rushing while getting 536 yards of total offense. Donovain Tucker rushed for 175 yards and 2 TD's while Mike Reeves tied the school mark for TD's in a season. Dyrssen threw for 276 yards on the day as well. Only needed to punt twice all game.

The Bad: While only punting twice all game it was marred by penalties. WLC was hit with 11 penalties for 110 yards. Grams had another kick block bringing his season total to 2/7 in field goal kicking. He hasn't made a field goal since week two. The offensive statistics were nice but they could not finish drives. Can't be leaving points on the field.

The Ugly: WLC turned the ball over five times (Rockford wasn't much better coughing up the ball four times).
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2013, 03:48:31 PM
Regular Season Finale

Rockford at Aurora: Aurora's season ends on a high note while Rockford's ends with a winless NACC campaign.

Lakeland at Benedictine: Ground game provides the difference here.

Concordia Wisconsin at Wisconsin Lutheran: I selected CUW but recently they have been giving up over 30 points per game over the last four games. I would love to see WLC deny them an undefeated NACC record but I question if they can get their offense in gear and hold onto the ball.

Concordia Chicago at Maranatha: CUC ends a tough season with a win.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2013, 06:41:04 PM
Aurora
Benedictine
CUW              (have to put my head above my heart on this one- Falcons would like to have some momentum going into   the playoffs)
CUC
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 17, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
Aurora 44
Rockford 7

Concordia Chicago 48
Maranatha 22

Lakeland 15
Benedictine 12

Concordia Wisconsin 58
Wisconsin Lutheran 31

Final Regular Season Standings

1. Concordia Wisconsin 8-2 (6-0)
2. Lakeland 7-3 (5-1)
3. Benedictine 7-3 (4-2)
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 4-6 (3-3)
5. Aurora 3-7 (2-4)
6. Concordia Chicago 2-8 (1-5)
7. Rockford 1-9 (0-6)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 17, 2013, 06:05:14 PM
Concordia Wisconsin heads to UW-Platteville in round one.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 17, 2013, 07:30:55 PM
Kinda surprised they weren't shipped to Whitewater or North Central but they have a tall task in getting that elusive first playoff win for the NACC.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 23, 2013, 10:06:33 AM
Prediction:

UW-Platteville over Concordia Wisconsin: CUW can certainly put up the points but the defense is very much suspect especially in the last few games. I think Platteville puts this one away after halftime.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: RFMichigan on November 23, 2013, 11:26:21 AM
Well, good luck to CUW. Hope they represent well and bring home the first playoff win for the conference.

However . . . CUW's defense (or lack thereof) is probably the difference maker in this game. They've just allowed too many points.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 26, 2013, 01:14:08 PM
As expected CUW fell to UW-Platteville 54-20. The Falcons finish their season at 8-3 (6-0) in conference.

NACC awards handed out today are here are the all conference teams

http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2013-14/all-conference

Notable Awards

Offensive Player of the Year: Damaschke CUW
Defensive Player of the Year: Sebald WLC
Freshmen of the Year: Lecas BU
Coach of the Year: Etter CUW
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 27, 2013, 08:50:26 AM
Lecas was a very good player for BU all year! Stood out in every game I saw him play. Congrats to him and the rest of the BU award winners!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 27, 2013, 09:00:15 AM
Also, if BU can retain all players, they will return 9 starters on Defense! I have to look about Offense, but the future still looks bright for BU! Keep Building!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 22, 2013, 05:40:44 PM
Rick Ponx has been hired as the Head Coach at Aurora. Ponx previously the Associate Head Coach and the Defensive Coordinator at North Central.

http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/201312168ac7s9
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on February 27, 2014, 12:38:46 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran has released their schedule for the 2014.

9/6 vs Lake Forest
9/13 at Trinity International
9/20 vs Kalamazoo (MIAA/NACC Challenge)
10/4 at Lakeland
10/11 vs Benedictine
10/18 at Concordia Chicago
10/25 at Adrian
11/1 at Rockford
11/8 vs Aurora
11/15 vs Concordia Wisconsin
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: CUW2014 on March 20, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
Concordia Wisconsin Schedule for the 2014 Season

Sep. 6    at North Park University         
Sep. 13    Augsburg College         
Sep. 20    Albion College                            MIAA/NACC Challenge      
Oct. 4    Concordia University Chicago *   Homecoming         
Oct. 11    at Aurora University *            
Oct. 18    at Trine University             
Oct. 25    Rockford University *         
Nov. 1    Benedictine University *                    Family Weekend      
Nov. 8    at Lakeland College *         
Nov. 15    at Wisconsin Lutheran College *         
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on April 24, 2014, 12:33:56 PM
Ben Murphy steps down as WLC head coach after one season.

http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/201404231ka3j0 (http://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/201404231ka3j0)

He will stay on as a part time defensive coach.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 04, 2014, 01:50:58 PM
This just pop in my head. Does anyone think that Chicago would of been a better fit for the "NACC" than the SAA?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2014, 02:13:36 PM
Geographically, yes, but the SAA means they stay with their archrival, Wash U.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Just Bill on June 05, 2014, 08:52:58 AM
Saving a few travel dollars isn't as big of a concern for Chicago as it is for most schools.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 05, 2014, 11:35:14 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 05, 2014, 08:52:58 AM
Saving a few travel dollars isn't as big of a concern for Chicago as it is for most schools.

Hopefully, they can get some OOC games up north to help out with family travel.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: ADL70 on June 05, 2014, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on June 05, 2014, 11:35:14 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on June 05, 2014, 08:52:58 AM
Saving a few travel dollars isn't as big of a concern for Chicago as it is for most schools.

Hopefully, they can get some OOC games up north to help out with family travel.

They and WUStL are continuing to play UAA foes CWRU and CMU, so if SAA plays a full round robin, they won't.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on June 16, 2014, 05:04:35 PM
BU released their 2014 Schedule...
http://www.benueagles.com/news/2014/6/16/FB_0616141321.aspx
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 17, 2014, 12:48:22 AM
I'm amused by all of the schedule announcements about schedules we've had on the site for months. :)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: formerd3db on June 18, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 17, 2014, 12:48:22 AM
I'm amused by all of the schedule announcements about schedules we've had on the site for months. :)

Pat:

I agree with you. :)  You (and your staff) are always at the forefront of having the schedules out (and updated).  What makes me "chuckle" even more is why many of the schools delay putting out the schedules on their own websites when the schedules have been known, like on your site, for quite some time before then.  Not sure as to the reason why and while I could offer some potential reasons as to why, any of mine would obviously be pure speculation; do you have an idea as to why?  Anyway, I enjoy (as I'm sure many others here do also) learning about the schedules via your early announcements.  Makes for additional potential discussion material in the offseason at the very least!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on June 20, 2014, 07:02:30 PM
New to the boards, love the site. Played at Aurora and hope that the new coach (Ponx) can get us back to conference contenders and elevate the program to new heights. Below is a list of the 2014 Spartan recruiting class, and the way the roster looks now, wouldn't be surprised to see a few of them contribute from day 1. A few recruits to look out for: Alex Cowan (on film looks undersized but he has speed  aurora's new OC can utilize) and  Jaumaureo Phillips (with his size could be a space eater on the D-line if he gets more physical). I know division three recruits are hit or miss, but Aurora needs to rebuild and from what I've been able to watch on tape from these kids, this could be the class to start from. Get excited, football season is around the corner! Go Spartans!

http://athletics.aurora.edu/news/2014/6/9/FB_0609144031.aspx
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on June 23, 2014, 10:45:05 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on June 20, 2014, 07:02:30 PM
New to the boards, love the site. Played at Aurora and hope that the new coach (Ponx) can get us back to conference contenders and elevate the program to new heights. Below is a list of the 2014 Spartan recruiting class, and the way the roster looks now, wouldn't be surprised to see a few of them contribute from day 1. A few recruits to look out for: Alex Cowan (on film looks undersized but he has speed  aurora's new OC can utilize) and  Jaumaureo Phillips (with his size could be a space eater on the D-line if he gets more physical). I know division three recruits are hit or miss, but Aurora needs to rebuild and from what I've been able to watch on tape from these kids, this could be the class to start from. Get excited, football season is around the corner! Go Spartans!

http://athletics.aurora.edu/news/2014/6/9/FB_0609144031.aspx

I know it's been awhile since you first posted this, but welcome to the boards.  Things tend to be kinda quiet in the offseason, but it's fun to have former players of recent vintage around.  The chatter will pick up more in August. 
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: CUW2014 on July 13, 2014, 02:27:49 PM
I agree. It is nice having former players contribute. Last year was my senior season at CUW, so it'd be cool to get this forum full of former players and supporters.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 18, 2014, 02:42:15 PM
Yeah been kinda wrapped up in other side projects. Any thoughts about how the NACC should play out?

Here's what I see now:

1. Concordia Wisconsin: Damaschke is back and the offense should be flying in the clouds. Defense needs to be shored up if they want to give the NACC their first playoff win.

2-4 (no particular order)

Wisconsin Lutheran: Miller is back on the sidelines to take charge of a Warriors team that had all the bounces that go against them (four losses by a combined 23 points including two in overtime).

Benedictine: Can't really count them out. Should have a solid season behind a big offensive line that will open things up for the offense.

Lakeland: While WLC had tough luck in close games, Lakeland had all the bounces go their way. They won't be sneaking up on anybody this year.

5. Aurora: Could very well be in the mix but they very well could underachieve.

6. Concordia Chicago: Year Two of rebuilding is ahead of them. Offense showed that they can hang with anybody within the NACC but the defense has nowhere to go but up after giving up 47 points per game in conference play.

7. Rockford: What will it take for the Regents to get out of the NACC cellar? Haven't won more than one conference game since the first year that the NACC sponsored Football (went 2-5).
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 21, 2014, 12:36:31 PM
Anybody want to do an NACC Football pick 'em thread this season? I'll set it up!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on July 21, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 21, 2014, 12:36:31 PM
Anybody want to do an NACC Football pick 'em thread this season? I'll set it up!

Thanks for the warm welcomes ExTartanPlayer and CUW2014! First off, I am interested in the Pick 'Em thread.

2nd) Congratulations on winning the NACC conference championship, CUW2014. I was a sophomore on the Aurora '08 championship squad, and it is one of my most cherished memories.

3rd) ExTartanPlayer, did you play at Carnegie Mellon? The reason I ask is that my brother is a junior DB in high school and Carnegie started recruiting him a few weeks ago. Any insight you have about the school and/or football program would be greatly appreciatted.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 14, 2014, 12:10:20 PM
2014 NACC Pre-Season Poll is now out:

naccsports.org/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20140812egmaqm
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 15, 2014, 03:15:30 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on August 14, 2014, 12:10:20 PM
2014 NACC Pre-Season Poll is now out:

naccsports.org/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20140812egmaqm

Here is the predicted order from the poll.

1. Concordia Wisconsin (12)
2. Benedictine (2)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran
4. Lakeland
5. Aurora
6. Concordia Chicago
7. Rockford
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2014, 02:04:44 PM
Rockford 7, Lawrence 0,  (Regents scored after a fast first drive)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 06, 2014, 02:32:51 PM
North Park's game this evening at 6 pm against Concordia (WI) will carry both live audio and video, as will all Vikings home games. Road games will be audio only. The voice you'll hear doing play-by-play is mine.

http://athletics.northpark.edu/index.aspx?path=football&tab=football
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 06, 2014, 02:39:52 PM
Rockford 19
Lawrence 0

2nd

Carroll 6
Lakeland 0

2nd
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2014, 03:14:13 PM
Half:  Rockford 19, Lawrence 6.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
Rockford 34, Lawrence 6  8:53 left in 4th 

     (Regents were just able to  get a pick-6)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
The NACC will not take an O-fer for Week 1--

Final:  Rockford 34, Lawrence 6

          Lawrence had an opportunity to get within 6 late in the 2nd Quarter, but failed to score.

       3 interceptions cost Lawrence big-time 
           Regents win despite getting nailed for 16 penalties for 108 yards.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 06, 2014, 10:22:40 PM
Final:  Concordia-WI 31, North Park 28

          (Whew!)

Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 13, 2014, 02:05:50 PM
Concordia-WI/Augsburg up shortly:
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 13, 2014, 03:20:06 PM
Augsburg 23, Concordia-WI 21  Half
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 13, 2014, 05:06:13 PM
Augsburg 55, Concordia-WI 45  20 seconds left 4th Qrtr.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 28, 2014, 01:41:58 AM
Former NACC member Maranatha Baptist University (Sabercats not Crusaders) forfeited their game against Concordia Chicago (or cancelled) due to injuries. With a roster which is only small to mid-size high school size, I can't imagine why........*Facepalm*
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 08, 2014, 04:36:19 PM
Benedictine has some exciting construction going on on campus, check out the below link to see Benedictine's new college of business!

https://www.ben.edu/campus_resources/CampusPlanning/business.cfm
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: CUW2014 on October 18, 2014, 01:55:10 PM
I'm listening to the CUW vs Trine game online. This could be a nice test to see just how the good CUW offense is this season.  It sounds like this may be similar to the game last year where CUW ran the ball sparingly. So far, CUW is up 21-14. CUW has 207 yds with 10:14 left in the 2nd... only 4 rushes so far for 31 yds and 2tds.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 18, 2014, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: CUW2014 on October 18, 2014, 01:55:10 PM
I'm listening to the CUW vs Trine game online. This could be a nice test to see just how the good CUW offense is this season.  It sounds like this may be similar to the game last year where CUW ran the ball sparingly. So far, CUW is up 21-14. CUW has 207 yds with 10:14 left in the 2nd... only 4 rushes so far for 31 yds and 2tds.

CUW hangs on to win 49-46.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 01, 2014, 03:37:59 AM
With the playoffs approaching, thought I would throw my two-cents at the NACC (In what appeared at first to be a regressive year for the conference).

Aurora: New coaching staff at my alma mater which has had, and is still having, its share of growing pains. No quarterback seems to want to step up and take the job, and Apple is doing all he can to carry the offense on his back. The defense has been just plain awful. The positive is that there is a lot of young talent on this roster, and there is a high ceiling to reach if the coaching staff can continue to develop these kids.

Benedictine: Letdown year for the Eagles. With Monaco getting hurt early on, the offense has had a difficult time getting rolling. The defense has played well, and Lecas is one of the best safeties this young conference has seen during its existence (Possibly a chance to be NACC Defensive Player of the Year in only his Sophomore season). I had BU pegged as the team to challenge CUW (And they will get their chance tomorrow afternoon to pull the upset).

Concordia-Chicago: They have fallen a long way since their 2012 conference championship team and their last second loss to a formidable Bethel squad. Like Aurora, the team has young talent, but there seems to have been slim-to-no progression on the field since the 2013 season. I will be watching the CUC v. Aurora game tomorrow which-and it pains me to say this- might determine who is the second worse team in the NACC.

Concordia-Wisconsin: The offense, believe it or not, has improved from last year. Damashke and Wenzelberger have been on fire and the running game has exploded on the scene with stellar offensive line play. The defense, however, will once again be the weak point for the Falcons. Giving up almost 35 points a game (34.9 to be exact) and over 500 yards a game (worst in the NACC) the defense has yet to acclimate to its high-powered offense. CUW is the favorite to win conference and clinch the NACC AQ bid and, if the defense can make some key plays, hopefully give the conference our first playoff win.

Lakeland: Wide Receiver University. The only other team besides CUW to remain unbeaten in conference play has a lot of weapons outside for the freshman quarterbacks to go to. Wynn, Esiobu, Smith, Micheaux- all hard to cover in their own way. Not to mention a stout defense, lead by Harvey (Another elite NACC safety). This team might have the most promising future (With Veloz being a talented freshman at quarterback and the four WRs mentioned being just juniors and sophomores) and might be the most 'complete' team in the NACC, but I do not think they have the maturity and cohesiveness just yet to dethrone the Falcons (But hey, I have been wrong before).

Rockford: They are still the bottom of the league, and with Coach Vic Wallace stepping down at the end of the year might be there a while longer. The good news for the Regents is that they have been able to compete with league teams this year (excluding CUW) and although they are still win-less in NACC competition, might have a chance to notch a W against a stagnant CUC squad the final week.

Wisconsin Lutheran: Started a few freshman early on at QB and had minimal success. They surprised me last week with a win against a then 5-1 Adrian team from Michigan, and Seybold (reigning NACC DPOY) and that Warrior defense seem to be coming into form at the right time. With one conference loss coming at the hands of Lakeland (47-7) they still have an outside chance at the AQ and their first NACC championship. If Lakeland falls to CUW like I believe they will, and WLC can beat Rockford and AU, week eleven will bring them a chance to go head to head with the defending champs.

The NACC started off slow in non-con play, but since starting 3-17, the NACC has seen BU beat Kalamazoo, CUW beat Trine, and WLC take down Adrian. The NACC teams keep gaining momentum, and hopefully they prove me wrong about this being a regression year. Hopefully the teams put the slow starts behind them, and hopefully whichever team ends up getting the AQ can get this conference their first playoff win.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 01, 2014, 04:51:55 PM
BU smacks CUW 33-6... BU didnt give up a single touchdown to the high powered CUW offense, CUW kicked 2 field goals in the loss! Great game BU, keep it going!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Look It Up on November 01, 2014, 09:49:08 PM
Concordia-Chicago gets its first win of the season edging Aurora 14-13. Jakari Cammon with 211 rushing yards and both Cougar touchdowns.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 02, 2014, 04:35:15 PM
Well Benedictine threw a wrench in the conference race this weekend.

Standings with two games left.

1. Lakeland 5-3 (4-0)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 5-3 (3-1)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 5-3 (3-1)
4. Benedictine 4-4 (3-1)
5. Concordia Chicago 1-6 (1-4)
6. Aurora 1-7 (1-4)
7. Rockford 1-7 (0-4)

Here is the remaining schedules for the four remaining teams in the hunt for the title:

Lakeland: vs Concordia Wisconsin, at Benedictine
CUW: at Lakeland, at Wisconsin Lutheran
WLC: vs Aurora, vs Concordia Wisconsin
BU: vs Rockford, vs Lakeland

Lakeland controls their destiny needing to win both games and they wrap up the title.
CUW needs to win out and hope for a Benedictine loss.
WLC needs to win out and hope for two Lakeland losses. (Lakeland holds head to head tiebreaker)
BU needs to win out and and a WLC loss.

Lakeland looks like they are the best team but they are not playing their best football at the right time. CUW got burned against a team that played defense. I may be partial here but I think WLC is playing the best out of the three and the Lutheran bowl game could have an NACC title on the line. BU is playing better but can they knock off Lakeland?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 08, 2014, 03:25:58 PM
NACC Score updates:

Aurora 21 Wisconsin Lutheran 17 Halftime
Benedictine 27 Rockford 6 Halftime
Lakeland 27 Concordia Wisconsin 10 3rd
Olivet 33 Concordia Chicago 7 Final
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 08, 2014, 06:06:47 PM
Aurora chokes away another win. Inept quarterback play. Coaches are going to have to hit the QB recruiting trail hard this off-season... and maybe burn their playbooks while they're at it.

Benedictine wins big against Rockford. No surprise here.

Turns out CUW offense went through Wenzelberger, Damashke struggles without his 6'6 WR as he proved against BU after Wenzelberger got hurt and during today's game where he was absent.

CUC continues struggles against a mediocre MIAC squad. Like Aurora, inept QB play plagues the offense.

Lakeland is on pace to meet a purple powers in the first round of the playoff if they can hold off a surging BU next weekend.

WiscLutheran barely survived against the- and I cannot stress this enough- WORST football team Aurora has fielded in the past two decades. Don't see WLC as a NACC championship team this year.

Rockford was no match for BU. Next weekend brings them a 'decent' chance to get a win against CUC.

NACC is going to send an at best 7-3 team into the playoffs, and IMHO Lakeland gives us our best chance to 'compete'. Benedictine and WiscLutheran have decent defenses, but their offenses are not efficient enough to score against a playoff team from another conference. Lakeland might be able to put a couple TDs, and if their defense is as good as advertised, maybe make it a game for a few quarters.

One week left to iron things out. One week left for Aurora to gain some momentum going into year 2 of the Ponx era.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 09, 2014, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 08, 2014, 06:06:47 PM
Aurora chokes away another win. Inept quarterback play. Coaches are going to have to hit the QB recruiting trail hard this off-season... and maybe burn their playbooks while they're at it.

Benedictine wins big against Rockford. No surprise here.

Turns out CUW offense went through Wenzelberger, Damashke struggles without his 6'6 WR as he proved against BU after Wenzelberger got hurt and during today's game where he was absent.

CUC continues struggles against a mediocre MIAA squad. Like Aurora, inept QB play plagues the offense.

Lakeland is on pace to meet a purple powers in the first round of the playoff if they can hold off a surging BU next weekend.

WiscLutheran barely survived against the- and I cannot stress this enough- WORST football team Aurora has fielded in the past two decades. Don't see WLC as a NACC championship team this year.

Rockford was no match for BU. Next weekend brings them a 'decent' chance to get a win against CUC.

NACC is going to send an at best 7-3 team into the playoffs, and IMHO Lakeland gives us our best chance to 'compete'. Benedictine and WiscLutheran have decent defenses, but their offenses are not efficient enough to score against a playoff team from another conference. Lakeland might be able to put a couple TDs, and if their defense is as good as advertised, maybe make it a game for a few quarters.

One week left to iron things out. One week left for Aurora to gain some momentum going into year 2 of the Ponx era.

Olivet is not the team that won 1 game in three years ago. Yes they aren't Hope or Albion but they are miles better than where they were.

Lakeland has basically wrapped up the NACC bid. If they lose and WLC wins they have the head to head tiebreaker over WLC.

As much as WLC got themselves in a 21-3 hole, they did not throw the towel in and dug themselves out of that hole and won it. Reminds me of when Aurora did the same thing to WLC back a few years. They'll be a major factor going forward.

CUW's lack of defense is hurting them. Their offense is sputtering with injuries and they didn't need that heading into their toughest part of the conference slate here.

Liked how Benedictine turned it on as the season got further. I think Lakeland won't get an easy game out of this one next week.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 09, 2014, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 09, 2014, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 08, 2014, 06:06:47 PM
Aurora chokes away another win. Inept quarterback play. Coaches are going to have to hit the QB recruiting trail hard this off-season... and maybe burn their playbooks while they're at it.

Benedictine wins big against Rockford. No surprise here.

Turns out CUW offense went through Wenzelberger, Damashke struggles without his 6'6 WR as he proved against BU after Wenzelberger got hurt and during today's game where he was absent.

CUC continues struggles against a mediocre MIAA squad. Like Aurora, inept QB play plagues the offense.

Lakeland is on pace to meet a purple powers in the first round of the playoff if they can hold off a surging BU next weekend.

WiscLutheran barely survived against the- and I cannot stress this enough- WORST football team Aurora has fielded in the past two decades. Don't see WLC as a NACC championship team this year.

Rockford was no match for BU. Next weekend brings them a 'decent' chance to get a win against CUC.

NACC is going to send an at best 7-3 team into the playoffs, and IMHO Lakeland gives us our best chance to 'compete'. Benedictine and WiscLutheran have decent defenses, but their offenses are not efficient enough to score against a playoff team from another conference. Lakeland might be able to put a couple TDs, and if their defense is as good as advertised, maybe make it a game for a few quarters.

One week left to iron things out. One week left for Aurora to gain some momentum going into year 2 of the Ponx era.

Olivet is not the team that won 1 game in three years ago. Yes they aren't Hope or Albion but they are miles better than where they were.

Lakeland has basically wrapped up the NACC bid. If they lose and WLC wins they have the head to head tiebreaker over WLC.

As much as WLC got themselves in a 21-3 hole, they did not throw the towel in and dug themselves out of that hole and won it. Reminds me of when Aurora did the same thing to WLC back a few years. They'll be a major factor going forward.

CUW's lack of defense is hurting them. Their offense is sputtering with injuries and they didn't need that heading into their toughest part of the conference slate here.

Liked how Benedictine turned it on as the season got further. I think Lakeland won't get an easy game out of this one next week.

You're right about Olivet. I didn't mean mediocre as a football team, I meant a middle-of-the-pack MIAA team. That's my fault, used the wrong phrasing.

I am really interested in how the Lakeland-Benedictine game will pan out. Should be a good one, especially if BU's QB Keener can play like he did against Rockford.

WLC is always a solid team and they definitely showed resolve in coming back against AU. I just do not think they have taken that final leap to the top, but the WLC program is definitely trending upward. Mostly, I was just venting my disappointment in Aurora's poor (being generous) season.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 11, 2014, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 09, 2014, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 09, 2014, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 08, 2014, 06:06:47 PM
Aurora chokes away another win. Inept quarterback play. Coaches are going to have to hit the QB recruiting trail hard this off-season... and maybe burn their playbooks while they're at it.

Benedictine wins big against Rockford. No surprise here.

Turns out CUW offense went through Wenzelberger, Damashke struggles without his 6'6 WR as he proved against BU after Wenzelberger got hurt and during today's game where he was absent.

CUC continues struggles against a mediocre MIAA squad. Like Aurora, inept QB play plagues the offense.

Lakeland is on pace to meet a purple powers in the first round of the playoff if they can hold off a surging BU next weekend.

WiscLutheran barely survived against the- and I cannot stress this enough- WORST football team Aurora has fielded in the past two decades. Don't see WLC as a NACC championship team this year.

Rockford was no match for BU. Next weekend brings them a 'decent' chance to get a win against CUC.

NACC is going to send an at best 7-3 team into the playoffs, and IMHO Lakeland gives us our best chance to 'compete'. Benedictine and WiscLutheran have decent defenses, but their offenses are not efficient enough to score against a playoff team from another conference. Lakeland might be able to put a couple TDs, and if their defense is as good as advertised, maybe make it a game for a few quarters.

One week left to iron things out. One week left for Aurora to gain some momentum going into year 2 of the Ponx era.

Olivet is not the team that won 1 game in three years ago. Yes they aren't Hope or Albion but they are miles better than where they were.

Lakeland has basically wrapped up the NACC bid. If they lose and WLC wins they have the head to head tiebreaker over WLC.

As much as WLC got themselves in a 21-3 hole, they did not throw the towel in and dug themselves out of that hole and won it. Reminds me of when Aurora did the same thing to WLC back a few years. They'll be a major factor going forward.

CUW's lack of defense is hurting them. Their offense is sputtering with injuries and they didn't need that heading into their toughest part of the conference slate here.

Liked how Benedictine turned it on as the season got further. I think Lakeland won't get an easy game out of this one next week.

You're right about Olivet. I didn't mean mediocre as a football team, I meant a middle-of-the-pack MIAA team. That's my fault, used the wrong phrasing.

You used the right phrasing, because "middle-of-the-pack" is exactly what the word mediocre means.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 11, 2014, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 11, 2014, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 09, 2014, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 09, 2014, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 08, 2014, 06:06:47 PM
Aurora chokes away another win. Inept quarterback play. Coaches are going to have to hit the QB recruiting trail hard this off-season... and maybe burn their playbooks while they're at it.

Benedictine wins big against Rockford. No surprise here.

Turns out CUW offense went through Wenzelberger, Damashke struggles without his 6'6 WR as he proved against BU after Wenzelberger got hurt and during today's game where he was absent.

CUC continues struggles against a mediocre MIAA squad. Like Aurora, inept QB play plagues the offense.

Lakeland is on pace to meet a purple powers in the first round of the playoff if they can hold off a surging BU next weekend.

WiscLutheran barely survived against the- and I cannot stress this enough- WORST football team Aurora has fielded in the past two decades. Don't see WLC as a NACC championship team this year.

Rockford was no match for BU. Next weekend brings them a 'decent' chance to get a win against CUC.

NACC is going to send an at best 7-3 team into the playoffs, and IMHO Lakeland gives us our best chance to 'compete'. Benedictine and WiscLutheran have decent defenses, but their offenses are not efficient enough to score against a playoff team from another conference. Lakeland might be able to put a couple TDs, and if their defense is as good as advertised, maybe make it a game for a few quarters.

One week left to iron things out. One week left for Aurora to gain some momentum going into year 2 of the Ponx era.

Olivet is not the team that won 1 game in three years ago. Yes they aren't Hope or Albion but they are miles better than where they were.

Lakeland has basically wrapped up the NACC bid. If they lose and WLC wins they have the head to head tiebreaker over WLC.

As much as WLC got themselves in a 21-3 hole, they did not throw the towel in and dug themselves out of that hole and won it. Reminds me of when Aurora did the same thing to WLC back a few years. They'll be a major factor going forward.

CUW's lack of defense is hurting them. Their offense is sputtering with injuries and they didn't need that heading into their toughest part of the conference slate here.

Liked how Benedictine turned it on as the season got further. I think Lakeland won't get an easy game out of this one next week.

You're right about Olivet. I didn't mean mediocre as a football team, I meant a middle-of-the-pack MIAA team. That's my fault, used the wrong phrasing.

You used the right phrasing, because "middle-of-the-pack" is exactly what the word mediocre means.

Though 'middle-of-the-pack' MIAA is somewhat below 'mediocre'.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 11, 2014, 08:06:06 PM
In the larger D3 football world, perhaps, if you accept the premise that the MIAA is itself somewhere south of mediocre as D3 leagues go. (It's a premise that is not necessarily supported by the facts as far as this season is concerned, especially since the MIAA beat the CCIW head-to-head this season.) But within the MIAA itself, Olivet (5-4, 2-3) fits the definition nicely.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 12, 2014, 02:42:31 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 11, 2014, 08:06:06 PM
In the larger D3 football world, perhaps, if you accept the premise that the MIAA is itself somewhere south of mediocre as D3 leagues go. (It's a premise that is not necessarily supported by the facts as far as this season is concerned, especially since the MIAA beat the CCIW head-to-head this season.) But within the MIAA itself, Olivet (5-4, 2-3) fits the definition nicely.

What I meant was that they had a middle-of-the-pack record, not that they weren't talented. Mediocre comes off as if I was commenting on their ability on the field (which I wouldn't know being that I haven't seen them play this year) instead of their place in the standings. That is why I felt my phrasing was off. My point was that the NACC needs to start playing the middle-of-the-pack MIAA and CCIW schools competitively if they ever want to earn some national respect.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 12, 2014, 09:58:19 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 12, 2014, 02:42:31 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 11, 2014, 08:06:06 PM
In the larger D3 football world, perhaps, if you accept the premise that the MIAA is itself somewhere south of mediocre as D3 leagues go. (It's a premise that is not necessarily supported by the facts as far as this season is concerned, especially since the MIAA beat the CCIW head-to-head this season.) But within the MIAA itself, Olivet (5-4, 2-3) fits the definition nicely.

What I meant was that they had a middle-of-the-pack record, not that they weren't talented. Mediocre comes off as if I was commenting on their ability on the field (which I wouldn't know being that I haven't seen them play this year) instead of their place in the standings. That is why I felt my phrasing was off. My point was that the NACC needs to start playing the middle-of-the-pack MIAA and CCIW schools competitively if they ever want to earn some national respect.
Winning a playoff game would also help a lot - although that task would be aided by winning some regular season non-conference games so we can send a champion into a decent seed.

I too think that Lakeland-Benedictine game on Saturday is going to be a barn burner, just like last year's meeting which went down to the final play of regulation.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on November 15, 2014, 04:43:45 PM
BU beats Lakeland 16-0 and will be in the NCAA playoffs! Congrats to BU!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 15, 2014, 06:14:51 PM
Well, that's certainly a disappointing way to end the season for the Muskies. But with Benedictine's defense holding them to only 54 yards, there can be no mistaking what happened in this one.

Congratulations are also due to Wisconsin Lutheran, who knocked off CUW to pick up a share of their first conference title in program history, and to Rockford, beating CUC to send longtime college coach Vic Wallace out a winner in Wallace's final game.

Hopefully, the Eagles can do us all proud in the playoffs. :)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 16, 2014, 06:28:00 PM
I'm wondering how well Benedictine's defense will stack up--regardless of who their first round draw is, that D is going to be put to its' stiffest test yet, IMHO.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 16, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Eagles open the playoffs at the undefeated and No. 8 ranked CCIW champs, Wheaton.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 16, 2014, 11:34:21 PM
To be honest I forgot Benedictine had one loss in conference as well when I picked up the Journal-Sentinel today. Sadly WLC was done in by the 40 point drubbing that Lakeland gave them in the conference opener. Great season Warriors. Good luck to Benedictine in the postseason.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2014, 12:04:26 PM
Here is how the NACC teams have fared in the conference since the NACC has sponsored football in 2008.

Overall

1. Benedictine 43-29
2. Concordia Chicago 40-30
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 39-31
4. Lakeland 38-37
5. Concordia Wisconsin 36-35
6. Aurora 33-39
7. Rockford 8-62
8. Maranatha 4-46*

Conference Play

1. Benedictine 33-14
2. Concordia Wisconsin 31-16
3. Lakeland 30-17
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 29-18
5. Concordia Chicago 28-19
6. Aurora 23-24
7. Rockford 5-42
8. Maranatha 2-33*

Out of Conference

1. Concordia Chicago 12-11
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 10-13
3. Aurora 9-15
4. Benedictine 9-16
5. Concordia Wisconsin 6-18
6. Lakeland 4-20
7. Rockford 3-20
8. Maranatha 2-13*

*Maranatha left the conference after 2012-13 season.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 21, 2014, 08:50:42 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2014, 12:04:26 PM
Here is how the NACC teams have fared in the conference since the NACC has sponsored football in 2008.

Overall

1. Benedictine 43-29
2. Concordia Chicago 40-30
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 39-31
4. Lakeland 38-37
5. Concordia Wisconsin 36-35
6. Aurora 33-39
7. Rockford 8-62
8. Maranatha 4-46*

Conference Play

1. Benedictine 33-14
2. Concordia Wisconsin 31-16
3. Lakeland 30-17
4. Wisconsin Lutheran 29-18
5. Concordia Chicago 28-19
6. Aurora 23-24
7. Rockford 5-42
8. Maranatha 2-33*

Out of Conference

1. Concordia Chicago 12-11
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 10-13
3. Aurora 9-15
4. Benedictine 9-16
5. Concordia Wisconsin 6-18
6. Lakeland 4-20
7. Rockford 3-20
8. Maranatha 2-13*

*Maranatha left the conference after 2012-13 season.

Good insight. Disappointed to see Aurora's place in all of these, especially compared to Benedictine's. But Benedictine has had a solid 7 year run in the NACC, and hopefully, if the wind's right and the game becomes a defensive battle, Benedictine can pull off a first round upset against Wheaton. In order for BU to make this a game a few things have to happen IMO:
1) Stop the run. BU D-linemen are a bit undersized and they will have to fight to hold the line and make it difficult for Wheaton's O-line to reach the second level. They also need to  spy Peltz, Wheaton's QB, who has been the featured ball carrier in that offense over the last few weeks of the regular season.
2) Get Artie Monaco the ball in space. The kid is electric and has the speed to outrun the players on Wheaton's defense. Benedictine's offensive line has not impressed much this year and they will need to gel quickly if they want to take on the CCIW's best.
3) BU's defensive backs need to shut down WR's Thorson and Kemp. BU has a strong secondary with Lecas playing ball hawk and Nichols and Herron at the corners, and they are going to force some turnovers from the inexperienced Wheaton quarterback and give their offense some solid starting field position.
4)Most importantly, BU has to go into the half with it still being a game. These players hear how they are not supposed to be able to stack up with the CCIW and I think going to halftime down just 7 or 3 or tied or even up some will boost confidence tenfold.
Again, this is only my opinion and the closest the NACC has come to winning a playoff game in its 7 year history was in 2012 when CUC lost to Bethel on a missed two-point conversion. That being said, it can be done, but it won't be easy.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 04, 2014, 01:26:41 PM
Rockford tabs BU's Defensive Coordinator Jim Schroeder as their new head coach.

http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20141203xh4ida
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on December 08, 2014, 09:55:53 PM
D3football.com All-North Region NACC mentions:

1st Team: S Jarrett Lecas Benedictine
2nd Team: S Yaphay Harvey Lakeland
3rd Team: OT Alvin Taylor Benedictine

Congratulations to these players on a tremendous honor!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on March 03, 2015, 06:18:25 PM
http://benueagles.com/news/2015/3/3/FB_0303150026.aspx?path=football

New OC at BU has been hired!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on March 04, 2015, 09:55:23 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 03, 2015, 06:18:25 PM
http://benueagles.com/news/2015/3/3/FB_0303150026.aspx?path=football

New OC at BU has been hired!

Which means Lakeland has to find a new head coach.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on March 09, 2015, 10:56:12 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on March 04, 2015, 09:55:23 AM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on March 03, 2015, 06:18:25 PM
http://benueagles.com/news/2015/3/3/FB_0303150026.aspx?path=football

New OC at BU has been hired!

Which means Lakeland has to find a new head coach.

http://www.lakelandmuskies.com/news/2015/3/4/FB_0304151006.aspx

Which they did by promoting defensive coordinator Colin Bruton. Almost seems to me like there has to be something more that isn't public knowledge, but it is what it is I guess. ;D
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on March 20, 2015, 08:58:18 AM
MIAA vs NACC Challenge has been set.

Benedictine at Adrian
Lakeland at Albion
Wisconsin Lutheran at Trine
Concordia Wisconsin at Hope
Aurora at Olivet
Rockford at Alma
Concordia Chicago at Kalamazoo

Non-conference

Kalamazoo at Benedictine
Hope at Rockford
Trine at Lakeland
Adrian at Wisconsin Lutheran
Alma at Concordia Chicago
Olivet at Concordia Wisconsin
Albion at Aurora
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on May 17, 2015, 09:17:59 AM
Well looking at how the year went in the NACC here is the schools that won at least a share of a conference title and tournament titles.

Aurora 8.5 (Conference Titles) 2 (Tournament Titles)
WLC: 2.5 (CT) 1 (TT)
Edgewood: 2 (CT) 2 (TT)
Dominican: 2 (CT) 1 (TT)
MSOE: 1 (CT)
Benedictine: 1 (2 shared CT)
Concordia Chicago .5 (CT) 1 (TT)
Marian: .5 (CT)
Lakeland: .5 (CT)
Concordia Wisconsin: 1 (TT)

Rockford and Alverno did not win any Conference or Tournament Titles this year.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on May 19, 2015, 07:44:26 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on May 17, 2015, 09:17:59 AM
Well looking at how the year went in the NACC here is the schools that won at least a share of a conference title and tournament titles.

Aurora 8.5 (Conference Titles) 2 (Tournament Titles)
WLC: 2.5 (CT) 1 (TT)
Edgewood: 2 (CT) 2 (TT)
Dominican: 2 (CT) 1 (TT)
MSOE: 1 (CT)
Benedictine: 1 (2 shared CT)
Concordia Chicago .5 (CT) 1 (TT)
Marian: .5 (CT)
Lakeland: .5 (CT)
Concordia Wisconsin: 1 (TT)

Rockford and Alverno did not win any Conference or Tournament Titles this year.
Hopefully AU can translate this into some success on the football field next fall.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on June 23, 2015, 12:20:07 PM
Big time recruit at QB for Spartans: R.J. Mattucci- Rolling Meadows
Although there has not been an official recruiting class released as of yet, Aurora has grabbed some solid commitments this off-season. From what I have heard, this kid (R.J.} is at the top of the class. With the offensive struggles, especially at the quarterback position last season for the Spartans, it looks like he will be competing for the starting role right out the gate. He is a dual-threat quarterback with great elusiveness and a rare ability to throw accurately on the run. Below I posted the link to his senior highlights and, depending how quickly he can adjust to the speed of the game and absorb the playbook, I believe he can start day one and help turn around the Spartan program. Anyone else have any news on incoming recruits from around the NACC?

R.J. Mattucci Highlights
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1829167/highlights/201347376/v2
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on June 24, 2015, 12:29:37 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on June 23, 2015, 12:20:07 PM
Big time recruit at QB for Spartans: R.J. Mattucci- Rolling Meadows
Although there has not been an official recruiting class released as of yet, Aurora has grabbed some solid commitments this off-season. From what I have heard, this kid (R.J.} is at the top of the class. With the offensive struggles, especially at the quarterback position last season for the Spartans, it looks like he will be competing for the starting role right out the gate. He is a dual-threat quarterback with great elusiveness and a rare ability to throw accurately on the run. Below I posted the link to his senior highlights and, depending how quickly he can adjust to the speed of the game and absorb the playbook, I believe he can start day one and help turn around the Spartan program. Anyone else have any news on incoming recruits from around the NACC?

R.J. Mattucci Highlights
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1829167/highlights/201347376/v2

Nothing really, hopefully as the season gets closer I can find something for WLC.

Apparently we updated our website.....Looks really nice.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on July 11, 2015, 07:40:17 PM
Speculation of speedy WR recruit for Benedictine's 2015 season along with D-Lineman transfer from Illini. Jaleel Darr-Duffie is the WR supposedly coming in from Waukegan HS and has elite speed, and Rob Bain is the DL from Illinois, originally from Bolingbrook. Two big time needs for the Eagles being filled. Still no full recruiting class announcements released from NACC teams so the information coming in is incomplete.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on July 14, 2015, 11:33:13 PM
Freshman as of today that are listed on Aurora's 2015 Roster:
Max Basler           DL   5-11   245   Fr.   Kings, IL               Rochelle Township
Raymond DiMatteo   DE   6-0   210   Fr.   Cary, IL               Cary Grove
Jeremy Haymond   RB   6-0   190   Fr.   Wonder Lake, IL   Woodstock North
Zachary Kearse   RB   5-10   160   Fr.   Calhan, CO       Peyton
Zac Mirabelli           K/P   6-3   190   Fr.   Chicago, IL       Mt. Carmel
Michael Scoggan   LB   5-11   210   Fr.   Mt. Sterling, IL       Brown County High School
Eric Wagner           DE   6-2   230   Fr.   McHenry, IL       Johnsburg
Joseph Wagner    OL   5-11   285   Fr.   Geneva, IL       Geneva Community
Month and a half until kickoff!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on July 20, 2015, 06:37:45 AM
Hi guys.  My son is starting his coaching career at Concordia Chicago.  So I've transferred here from the Midwest board.  Looking forward to a new season...
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 21, 2015, 08:52:44 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on July 20, 2015, 06:37:45 AM
Hi guys.  My son is starting his coaching career at Concordia Chicago.  So I've transferred here from the Midwest board.  Looking forward to a new season...

Welcome to the NACC board sir. Things are a little bit on the quiet side right now, but as we get closer to kickoff things will pick up a bit.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: grboob on August 06, 2015, 05:46:39 PM
Fulbackdad,

Your back from a brief retirement, somewhat like Floyd Merweather

So do you plan on covering and commenting on the NACC, MWC and the CCIW boards in the future?

Will you be coming cross country a lot?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on August 07, 2015, 05:56:25 AM
Like my real life work situation, I am back from retirement to be working part time.   ;D

I will be popping in and out of your life from time to time.   :D

Reports from the boy are fun to be watching.  How many guys can say the went golfing with potential NFL Hall of Famer Joe Jacoby?  He did yesterday!

Funny, he went to a High School showcase back here in New England last month and there was a coach from Knox.  And his first game as a coach is against Beloit!  Can't get away from the MWC!

We won't be traveling back as much as we did the last four years.  6 game trips a year runs up quit a bill.  And that's what we did every year!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 07, 2015, 09:41:00 PM
Jacoby was an assistant at Shenandoah for the past few years. Seems to really enjoy Division III!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: baseman201 on August 21, 2015, 11:20:54 AM
So, just looking at the CUC roster and I only see like 35 guys (So, Jr., Sr.).  Does anyone know if they have a bunch of incoming freshman or have seen some of their camp, because if not, it's going to be another long year them. 

The only QB listed had 8 INTs and 3 TDs last year...
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on August 23, 2015, 11:10:24 AM
Baseman,

First I hope you mean Concordia Chicago.  I'm new here.

What roster are you looking at?  The one on the website has 65 players or so from last year, but only 5 were seniors.  My understanding was there was a flush of bad attitudes a year or two ago.  That would account for the only 5 seniors.  But 60 returners is a healthy number.....
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on August 23, 2015, 02:22:49 PM
85 in Concordia camp this summer.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: baseman201 on August 23, 2015, 11:36:44 PM
Yes I was talking about Concordia Chicago, hmmmm, maybe I need to look.again!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 25, 2015, 01:33:25 AM
Quote from: baseman201 on August 23, 2015, 11:36:44 PM
Yes I was talking about Concordia Chicago, hmmmm, maybe I need to look.again!

Yeah there a few Concordias in NACC.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 26, 2015, 12:58:31 PM
NACC Preseason Poll is out!

The coaches picked Benedictine as the favorite to win the league this year.

Poll:

1. Benedictine 92 (9)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 83 (4)
3. Lakeland 69 (1)
4. Concordia Wisconsin 63
5. Aurora 40
6. Rockford 25
7. Concordia Chicago 20
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 31, 2015, 08:36:27 AM
Anyone that is interested, there is an NACC pick 'em on the Pick 'Em boards.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on September 05, 2015, 10:33:09 AM
Good luck to Concordia today!  The one in Chicago! lol
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 05, 2015, 12:33:53 PM
IT'S GAMEDAY!!!!! ;D

Week One - Saturday, September 5
North Park at Concordia Wisconsin, 1:00 pm
Rockford at Lawrence, 1:00 pm
Wisconsin Lutheran at Lake Forest, 1:00 pm
Illinois College at Aurora, 1:00 pm
Beloit at Concordia Chicago, 2:30 pm
Benedictine at Central (IA), 6:30 pm
Lakeland at Carroll, 7:00 pm
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 05, 2015, 04:27:30 PM
North Park leads CUW 23-16 in the 4th
Wisconsin Lutheran is tied at 24 with Lake Forest in the 4th
Illinois College leads Aurora 39-13
Rockford blowing out Lawrence 52-14 in the 3rd
CUC leads Beloit 28-17 in the 2nd
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 05, 2015, 07:25:54 PM
North Park 23
Concordia Wisconsin 16

Rockford 52
Lawrence 17

Illinois College 53
Aurora 20

Concordia Chicago 51
Beloit 50

Both teams combine for 39 points in the final quarter.

Wisconsin Lutheran 38
Lake Forest 37

(2OT)

WLC erased a 24-3 halftime deficit.

Benedictine and Lakeland to come later.

The NACC goes 3-1 against the Midwest so far.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 05, 2015, 10:40:13 PM
Benedictine holds on to be Central (IA) 21-19

Lakeland and Carroll heading down to the wire tied at 27.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 05, 2015, 11:06:27 PM
Lakeland 34
Carroll 33

Final-OT

NACC goes 5-2 overall and 4-1 against the Midwest this week.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 05, 2015, 11:21:54 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 05, 2015, 11:06:27 PM
Lakeland 34
Carroll 33

Final-OT
After penalties moved the ball inside the 1, the Lakeland defense was up to the task and stuffed a 2 point conversion run to seal the victory.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on September 06, 2015, 06:47:33 AM
Concordia Chicago goes for 2 point conversions TWICE in the last 4 minutes of the game.  Scoring on both to get the win.  The last one with 14 seconds left.  One things for sure, Coach Awrey has brass ones!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: baseman201 on September 06, 2015, 03:27:23 PM
Yeah, sometimes you need the brass ones to win games.  CUCs offense has definitely improved and looks good, can't complain about 51 pts, their defense on the other hand...

Watched the game on live stream and was happy to see a really good transfer sophomore QB running the offense. (The 6'11" QB freshman came in and didn't do too badly either) Hopefully they can build on all the young guys they have, as long as they stick around.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2015, 05:33:59 PM
Only week 1... but the NACC came to play!
CUC looks like the Cougars of 2012 (Undefeated regular season) with an offense dynamic enough to win games they probably shouldn't.
Benedictine has a Freshman wide receiver (Matt Fleming) who has elite speed and his 2 touchdowns sealed the victory over Central. The defense looked great through 3 1/2 quarters but got a little too conservative late in the fourth and gave Central a chance to come back.
Wisconsin Lutheran's Mitch Skarban looks like a matchup nightmare and WLC won that game in the second half.
Rockford started O'Malley, freshman QB, and he was impressive against a subpar Lawrence squad. Rockford looks like it finally has some pieces to build a program around under new coach, Jim Shroeder.
Lakeland's QB Whitley showed he is dual threat and LC's defense came up big in OT.
Exciting week 1 for the NACC. I hope they can keep this momentum rolling through the non-conference schedule and leap a few conferences in the power rankings.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 06, 2015, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2015, 05:33:59 PM
Only week 1... but the NACC came to play!
CUC looks like the Cougars of 2012 (Undefeated regular season) with an offense dynamic enough to win games they probably shouldn't.
Benedictine has a Freshman wide receiver (Matt Fleming) who has elite speed and his 2 touchdowns sealed the victory over Central. The defense looked great through 3 1/2 quarters but got a little too conservative late in the fourth and gave Central a chance to come back.
Wisconsin Lutheran's Mitch Skarban looks like a matchup nightmare and WLC won that game in the second half.
Rockford started O'Malley, freshman QB, and he was impressive against a subpar Lawrence squad. Rockford looks like it finally has some pieces to build a program around under new coach, Jim Shroeder.
Lakeland's QB Whitley showed he is dual threat and LC's defense came up big in OT.
Exciting week 1 for the NACC. I hope they can keep this momentum rolling through the non-conference schedule and leap a few conferences in the power rankings.

Beating Beloit is a long way from going 10-0, but definitely a nice start for CUC.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 07, 2015, 12:31:16 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 06, 2015, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2015, 05:33:59 PM
Only week 1... but the NACC came to play!
CUC looks like the Cougars of 2012 (Undefeated regular season) with an offense dynamic enough to win games they probably shouldn't.
Benedictine has a Freshman wide receiver (Matt Fleming) who has elite speed and his 2 touchdowns sealed the victory over Central. The defense looked great through 3 1/2 quarters but got a little too conservative late in the fourth and gave Central a chance to come back.
Wisconsin Lutheran's Mitch Skarban looks like a matchup nightmare and WLC won that game in the second half.
Rockford started O'Malley, freshman QB, and he was impressive against a subpar Lawrence squad. Rockford looks like it finally has some pieces to build a program around under new coach, Jim Shroeder.
Lakeland's QB Whitley showed he is dual threat and LC's defense came up big in OT.
Exciting week 1 for the NACC. I hope they can keep this momentum rolling through the non-conference schedule and leap a few conferences in the power rankings.

Beating Beloit is a long way from going 10-0, but definitely a nice start for CUC.

Pat, maybe I misspoke. Understandably beating Beloit is not as far-fetched as going undefeated. I simply meant that CUC's offense reminded me of their efficient teams in recent history, i.e.  spread out, talented WRs, solid/quick decisions at QB, quick running back, O-line playing stout. It has been something they haven't seen since the coaching change. This was more a post about the NACC having success as a whole: BU upsetting Central, Lakeland avenging their loss last year against Carroll, Wisc Lutheran having the poise to come from behind to beat Lake Forest, Rockford and CUC (Projected bottom of the barrel NACC teams) defeating teams from conferences considered "stronger" in the past than the NACC. Just hope this week wasn't a fluke and NACC teams can continue competing against these other conferences.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 12, 2015, 07:08:56 PM
Week Two afternoon results:

Concordia Wisconsin 21
Augsburg 54

Ripon 13
Rockford 14

(Trinity Int'l at Wisconsin Lutheran and Carroll at Benedictine tonight; Aurora, Concordia Chicago and Lakeland have byes.)

Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2015, 05:33:59 PM
Rockford looks like it finally has some pieces to build a program around under new coach, Jim Schroeder.
Did not expect this, but the Regents are off to a 2-0 start. They haven't won more than 2 games in a full season since joining the NACC.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 12, 2015, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 12, 2015, 07:08:56 PM
Week Two afternoon results:

Concordia Wisconsin 21
Augsburg 54

Ripon 13
Rockford 14

(Trinity Int'l at Wisconsin Lutheran and Carroll at Benedictine tonight; Aurora, Concordia Chicago and Lakeland have byes.)

Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2015, 05:33:59 PM
Rockford looks like it finally has some pieces to build a program around under new coach, Jim Schroeder.
Did not expect this, but the Regents are off to a 2-0 start. They haven't won more than 2 games in a full season since joining the NACC.

Impressive win for the Regents. I think they will finish higher than 6th in the NACC this year.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 13, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
Week Two evening results:

Trinity International 34
Wisconsin Lutheran 27 (OT)

Carroll 21
Benedictine 13

Next week, everyone heads over to Michigan and Indiana for the challenge series against the MIAA.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on September 19, 2015, 07:27:12 AM
Concordia Chicago wins today in a defensive epic battle, 107-96
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 26, 2015, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on September 19, 2015, 07:27:12 AM
Concordia Chicago wins today in a defensive epic battle, 107-96
Sadly, they didn't...and neither did anyone else, as the MIAA took out the brooms on our beloved conference.

But today is a new Saturday, and with it a new slate of games:

Week Four
Carthage at Lakeland, 1:00 pm
Millikin at Aurora, 1:00 pm
Maranatha at Concordia Chicago, 1:00 pm
Byes: Benedictine, Concordia Wisconsin, Rockford, Wisconsin Lutheran
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on September 26, 2015, 07:30:41 PM
Concordia  Chicago takes care of business today.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 26, 2015, 11:23:10 PM
Week Four finals:

Carthage 29
Lakeland 28

Millikin 20
Aurora 24

Maranatha 21
Concordia Chicago 42

The Muskies rushed for zero yards, had less than 22 minutes of possession time, and still gave themselves a chance to win it on the final play.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 04, 2015, 07:37:58 PM
Week Five scores:

Rockford 8
Aurora 16

Lakeland 15
Wisconsin Lutheran 13

Concordia Wisconsin 49
Concordia Chicago 14

Kalamazoo 10
Benedictine 45

A little surprised to see Rockford lose and Concordia Chicago get blown out, as I thought those teams had looked better than that during non-conference play.

Also, a big win for my beloved Muskies, and all of a sudden Wisconsin Lutheran (who had their hopes of a first playoff appearance detailed in a recent Around the Region column) have to go into Benedictine in basically a must-win scenario next week.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on October 04, 2015, 10:05:27 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on October 04, 2015, 07:37:58 PM
Week Five scores:

Rockford 8
Aurora 16

Lakeland 15
Wisconsin Lutheran 13

Concordia Wisconsin 49
Concordia Chicago 14

Kalamazoo 10
Benedictine 45

A little surprised to see Rockford lose and Concordia Chicago get blown out, as I thought those teams had looked better than that during non-conference play.

Also, a big win for my beloved Muskies, and all of a sudden Wisconsin Lutheran (who had their hopes of a first playoff appearance detailed in a recent Around the Region column) have to go into Benedictine in basically a must-win scenario next week.

Rockford has made huge strides under their new head coach this season, but I don't think they are quite ready to be competitive in NACC play week in and week out. Concordia Chicago has reverted back to an ineptitude on the offensive side of the ball, struggling against a below average CUW defense. Your Muskies are my pick to win the conference outright (IMO, Benedictine v Lakeland will decide who gets the NACC AQ) but they will need to find some sort of run game other than their talented dual-threat QB. Wisconsin Lutheran's hopes at a first playoff appearance are hanging by a thread, and- like you mentioned- they will be taking on a talented Benedictine squad who is coming off a confidence building blowout W against Kalamazoo.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 19, 2015, 08:07:29 PM
Week Six
Concordia Chicago 0 at Lakeland 41
Aurora 31 at Concordia Wisconsin 34
Wisconsin Lutheran 13 at Benedictine 30
Hope 34 at Rockford 0

Week Seven
Aurora 58 at Concordia Chicago 7
Concordia Wisconsin 35 at Benedictine 39
Rockford 21 at Wisconsin Lutheran 34
Trine 35 at Lakeland 61

Preseason favorites Benedictine overcame a 21 point deficit to prevail on Saturday, and now only they and Lakeland are left unblemished in conference play (both at 2-0). Of the two, the Eagles would seem to have the easier path to remain undefeated heading into the regular season closing showdown: Lakeland has to travel to Aurora and CUW the next two weeks, while BU hosts the former and has already survived the latter.

Quote from: Rhythm21 on October 04, 2015, 10:05:27 PM
Your Muskies are my pick to win the conference outright but they will need to find some sort of run game other than their talented dual-threat QB.
Apparently, they would like to reject your reality and substitute their own. ;D But can it keep working for four more games? That's the big question.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 24, 2015, 05:53:47 PM
Week Eight
Concordia Wisconsin 15
Rockford 7

Lakeland 47
Aurora 40 (2OT)

Benedictine 41
Concordia Chicago 0

Adrian 30
Wisconsin Lutheran 12

I don't know how much more of this I can take. That's now two overtime games, a 1 point game and a 2 point game for the Muskies this season. (And quite frankly, with six turnovers today and needing a missed extra point to get to OT, they were lucky to get out of there with this one.)

Benedictine and Lakeland both at 3-0 in conference play now, with Concordia Wisconsin at 3-1 and the latter two meeting for the Cheese Bowl next weekend.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 31, 2015, 10:35:29 PM
NACC Scores

Benedictine 20
Rockford 7

Lakeland 48
Concordia Wisconsin 21

Wisconsin Lutheran 21
Aurora 14

Alma 36
Concordia Chicago 13
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 02, 2015, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 31, 2015, 10:35:29 PM
Benedictine 20
Rockford 7

Lakeland 48
Concordia Wisconsin 21

Wisconsin Lutheran 21
Aurora 14

Alma 36
Concordia Chicago 13
And that means it's now set that the winner of the Benedictine at Lakeland game on the 14th will be the AQ.

Poor weather around the conference made for some interesting statistical lines this week. Particularly in the Benedictine-Rockford game, as there were only two completed passes in the entire game with one coming on a blown special teams play!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 07, 2015, 06:03:08 PM
Week Ten
Rockford 6
Lakeland 31

Aurora 24
Benedictine 32

Concordia Chicago 13
Wisconsin Lutheran 35

Olivet 56
Concordia Wisconsin 42

The Muskies and Eagles both get it done at home to set up a winner take all showdown for the NACC title next Saturday.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 08, 2015, 01:01:11 PM
As much as I would have loved to see Aurora upset Benedictine, the 32-24 win by the Eagles sets up an exciting defacto NACC championship game next saturday. Should be an excellent match-up between the undisputed top two teams in our beloved conference. With Lecas out for the remainder of the season, I have Lakeland's offense being too much for the BU defense to handle and Lakeland taking the AQ. Either way, we will have a great team representing the NACC once playoffs begin. Here's to getting our young conference its first playoff victory!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 13, 2015, 10:50:54 PM
I have to say, based on the one game I've seen each year, the Spartans certainly seem like they're headed in the right direction. Pretty soon, those close losses - which all 4 of them in conference were - are going to start turning into wins.

Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 08, 2015, 01:01:11 PM
As much as I would have loved to see Aurora upset Benedictine, the 32-24 win by the Eagles sets up an exciting defacto NACC championship game next saturday. Should be an excellent match-up between the undisputed top two teams in our beloved conference. With Lecas out for the remainder of the season, I have Lakeland's offense being too much for the BU defense to handle and Lakeland taking the AQ. Either way, we will have a great team representing the NACC once playoffs begin. Here's to getting our young conference its first playoff victory!
Lakeland is not a team you want to face with a shorthanded defensive backfield, that's for sure. Especially without a player of his caliber.

One thing to note is that the last two LC-BU games have been defensive battles - 15-12 in the Muskies favor two years ago, and a 16-0 shutout for the Eagles last year in which they held the Fish to 54 total yards. But I can't see this offense getting shut down like that.

Supposed to be sunny and about 50 degrees tomorrow - as nice as you can hope for in mid-November around these parts. And I am looking forward to it!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 14, 2015, 04:58:45 PM
Week Eleven
Benedictine 22
Lakeland 46

Concordia Chicago 7
Rockford 26

Wisconsin Lutheran 23
Concordia Wisconsin 20 (2OT)

Albion 42
Aurora 14

Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 08, 2015, 01:01:11 PM
With Lecas out for the remainder of the season, I have Lakeland's offense being too much for the BU defense to handle and Lakeland taking the AQ.
That's exactly what happened - Benedictine simply had no answer for the Lakeland passing attack, which then opened the way for the run game. The Muskies were unofficially credited with 571 yards of offense today. And now we wait and see what the playoff draw is. And it will surely be a tough team. But if Whitley and our offense keep playing like they has all season, why not us?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 15, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
And the Muskies will be at #5 Wheaton in the first round.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 21, 2015, 10:56:05 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 15, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
And the Muskies will be at #5 Wheaton in the first round.

Game Day!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 21, 2015, 11:49:43 AM
The 2015 all-conference awards can be found here: http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2015-16/awards-season

Lakeland sophomore QB Michael Whitley is the Offensive Player of the Year. During the regular season, he completed 63% of his passes for 3,219 yards, with 33 touchdowns against only 7 interceptions. Additionally, he ran for 607 yards and a NACC leading 15 touchdowns. Putting the two together, Whitley was No. 2 in the country in dual threat yardage and scoring, trailing only Joe Callahan of Wesley in both categories.

A pair of seniors shared Defensive Player of the Year honors. Wisconsin Lutheran LB Tanner Behnke led the conference with 105 tackles, 9 of which were for loss, and also recorded an interception. Lakeland DB Landon Derginer shared the conference lead with 5 interceptions; recovered 2 fumbles, returning one for a touchdown; and was credited with 73 tackles and half a sack.

Aurora DL Eric Wagner was the Freshman of the Year, leading the NACC with 8 1/2 sacks and also committing 34 tackles and recovering a fumble. And the Coach of the Year was Lakeland's Colin Bruton, leading the Muskies back to the playoffs in his first season as a D3 head coach.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 21, 2015, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 21, 2015, 10:56:05 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 15, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
And the Muskies will be at #5 Wheaton in the first round.

Game Day!
A day six years in the making, now just minutes away... ;D
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 21, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
Wheaton 55
Lakeland 6

Final
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 21, 2015, 10:31:43 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 21, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
Wheaton 55
Lakeland 6

Final

I doubt it would have changed the winner, but I think the blizzard conditions affected the MOV.  Lakeland couldn't pass in those conditions, and Wheaton's superior OL allowed them to just blast up the middle.  'cause trying to go wide was utterly hopeless.

Some posters insist that 'both teams play in the same conditions'.  True, but it totally ignores that weather can hugely affect the strengths and weaknesses of teams.  IF Lakeland could have passed, they might have had a 'puncher's chance'.  Take that away, and with the line superiority of Wheaton, Lakeland was dead meat.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 21, 2015, 10:56:31 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 21, 2015, 10:31:43 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 21, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
Wheaton 55
Lakeland 6

Final

I doubt it would have changed the winner, but I think the blizzard conditions affected the MOV.  Lakeland couldn't pass in those conditions, and Wheaton's superior OL allowed them to just blast up the middle.  'cause trying to go wide was utterly hopeless.

Some posters insist that 'both teams play in the same conditions'.  True, but it totally ignores that weather can hugely affect the strengths and weaknesses of teams.  IF Lakeland could have passed, they might have had a 'puncher's chance'.  Take that away, and with the line superiority of Wheaton, Lakeland was dead meat.

Agreed. Lakeland's D was very much suspect throughout the year and it showed against a superior opponent.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Craft_Beermeister on November 22, 2015, 11:41:02 AM
Great win for Wheaton.  They looked very strong.  Congratulations. 
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: formerd3db on November 25, 2015, 10:58:46 PM
I wish all you NACC'ers an enjoyable and blessed Thanksgiving Day and weekend whatever you are doing.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 26, 2015, 08:06:53 PM
And the same to you. :)

With the conference being in Wisconsin and northern Illinois, I suspect the Packers-Bears game will be in a lot of our plans, like it is for me.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on December 12, 2015, 02:15:08 AM
Benedictine head coach Jon Cooper has announced his retirement. (http://www.benueagles.com/news/2015/12/10/FB_1210152921.aspx) He retires as the winningest coach in program history, having led the Eagles to a 62-51 record in 11 seasons at the helm, including .500 or better records each of the last seven years. Also included are three playoff berths on the strength of NACC championships in 2010, 2011 and 2014.

And congratulations to the five NACC players who received All-North Region (http://www.d3football.com/awards/all-region/2015/d3football-all-north-region-2015.pdf) recognition this year:
Second Team - Lakeland WR Kezlow Smith and S Landon Derginer, Wisconsin Lutheran LB Tanner Behnke
Third Team - Wisconsin Lutheran WR Mitch Skarban, Benedictine G Gerald Valenzuela
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on January 19, 2016, 09:46:47 AM
BenU has a new football coach...  What do you think of the hire?  Good luck to Coach Sears!

It is with great pleasure that Benedictine University announces the hiring of Josiah Sears as the 28th head football coach in school history.

"I am extremely humbled and excited for the opportunity to work at Benedictine and lead the young men within the football program," Sears said. "Everything about the school, department, and program are impressive, and I am excited to use my experience and values, which align with both the university and department, to build a culture of excellence in every area of life."

Josiah SearsSears arrives at Benedictine for his first head coaching appointment after serving as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Wheaton College for the past three seasons. Wheaton posted consecutive unbeaten regular seasons for the first time in school history in 2014 and 2015, reaching the second round of the NCAA Playoffs each year, finishing with a record of 11-1 each of the past two seasons and finishing ranked in the top-10 nationally. Wheaton featured two All-American offensive linemen this year and sported a 30-4 record during the three years with Sears.

"Josiah demonstrated a detailed vision for our football program," Benedictine Director of Athletics Mark McHorney said. "Being able to clearly outline every aspect of the program was something that stood out with the screening committee. We were able to see what our program culture will be on the field, in the classroom, and in the community. I couldn't be more excited to welcome Josiah (Sears) and his outstanding pedigree to Benedictine. His commitment to excellence has been evident from his days as a player through his coaching career at two of the top programs in Division III. I'd like to thank the screening committee, office of enrollment, and Vice President for Student Life Marco Masini for their time and effort during this process."

Prior to joining Wheaton, Sears logged five years as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Franklin College. Franklin made four appearances in the NCAA Playoffs with four wins during Sears' tenure, posting an overall record of 44-11 over the five years with four conference titles. Sears helped produce multiple offensive All-American selections at Franklin including a pair of quarterbacks who were also named as the Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference Player of the Year. One of the quarterbacks was a finalist for the Gagliardi Trophy and the other set an NCAA single game record for completion percentage. Franklin set numerous school records while scoring just under 40 points per game and averaging just under 450 yards.

Sears played collegiately as a running back and fullback at Indiana University, working his way from a walk-on to scholarship player and was voted as a captain of the 2007 team along with current Chicago Bear Tracy Porter. Indiana broke a 14-year bowl drought during his final campaign, which saw the Indiana native score six touchdowns. Following his college career, Sears was offered tryouts with the Bears and Buffalo Bills.

Sears inherits a team that finished 7-3 this season under head coach Jon Cooper, who retired following the season. Benedictine lost to Lakeland College in the regular season finale to determine the conference champion. Benedictine has represented the Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference in the NCAA Playoffs three times in the past six seasons.

"I am impressed with Mark (McHorney) and his vision and leadership," Sears said. "I am excited to get started and contribute to the greatness of the institution."

Sears, who resides in Wheaton with his wife Lyndee, and two children, daughter Tinley (4), and son Boman (2), will be formally introduced to the Benedictine community at a luncheon on Tuesday, January 26.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on January 23, 2016, 12:16:17 AM
I think it's a very good hire for Benedictine. He's a proven assistant coach with lots of potential to be a strong head coach, just wanting for an opportunity. And that will be a good school to get a first opportunity, one with a solid foundation for him and his staff to build upon as the Eagles have finished outside of the top two only twice since 2009.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on March 26, 2016, 11:11:28 AM
WLC has their 2016 schedule out:

9/3 at Trinity International
9/17 vs Olivet
9/24 vs UW-Eau Claire
10/1 vs Aurora
10/8 at Rockford
10/15 vs Concordia Wisconsin
10/22 at Lakeland
10/29 vs Benedictine
11/5 at Kalamazoo
11/12 at Concordia Chicago
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: LB40 on April 07, 2016, 10:19:00 AM
WLC playing a state school!  Great to see the NACC stepping up and scheduling WIAC's.  Lakeland is doing the same.  LC's non conference schedule looks to be one of the tougher draws around (30-10 overall) :

9/5 @Carroll U (6-4)
9/19 Albion (9-1 playoff qualifier, top 25)
9/26 UW- Platteville (8-2, top 15)
10/1 CUW
10/8 @Adrian 7-3
10/15 @BenU
10/22 WLC
10/29 @ CUC
11/5 Aurora
11/12 @ Rockford
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on April 12, 2016, 12:56:40 PM
Lakeland will be Lakeland University by the time the new season comes around: http://lakeland.edu/Lakeland-News/lakeland-college-to-become-lakeland-university-on-july-1

In the interest of staying on topic, I suspect you'll see one of the shiny new "LU" logos on Muskie football helmets this fall. There's a couple of them in the link.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on April 23, 2016, 12:01:12 PM
Here is Aurora's Schedule:

8/24 vs Augustana (Scrimmage)
9/3 at Carthage
9/10 vs Loras
9/17 vs Trine (IN)
10/1 at Wisconsin Lutheran
10/8 vs Concordia Chicago
10/15 at Alma
10/22 at Rockford
10/29 vs Concordia Wisconsin
11/5 at Lakeland
11/12 vs Benedictine

Concordia Chicago

9/3 vs Ripon
9/17 vs Hope
9/24 at Maranatha
10/1 at Trine (IN)
10/8 at Aurora
10/15 vs Rockford
10/22 at Concordia Wisconsin
10/29 vs Lakeland
11/5 at Benedictine
11/12 vs Wisconsin Lutheran

Rockford

9/3 vs MacMurray
9/10 at Maranatha
9/17 vs Kalamazoo
10/1 at Benedictine
10/8 vs Wisconsin Lutheran
10/15 at Concordia Chicago
10/22 vs Aurora
10/29 at Albion
11/5 at Concordia Wisconsin
11/12 vs Lakeland

Concordia Wisconsin

9/3 at Finlandia
9/10 vs Augsburg
9/17 vs Alma
10/1 at Lakeland
10/8 vs Benedictine
10/15 at Wisconsin Lutheran
10/22 vs Concordia Chicago
10/29 at Aurora
11/5 vs Rockford
11/22 at Hope

Benedictine

9/3 at Wheaton
9/10 vs St. Norbert
9/17 vs Adrian
10/1 vs Rockford
10/8 at Concordia Wisconsin
10/15 vs Lakeland
10/22 at Olivet
10/29 at Wisconsin Lutheran
11/5 vs Concordia Chicago
11/12 at Aurora
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 30, 2016, 11:04:42 PM
WR Michael Esiobu-Lakeland has reportedly signed as an undrafted free agent with the New York Giants. A huge congratulations to him for not only getting his shot in the NFL, but also (And I could be wrong about this) being the first player from the NACC to make that jump! Best of luck going forward, Mr. Esiobu! Make us all proud.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on May 01, 2016, 10:50:53 PM
Additionally, WR Mitch Skarban from Wisconsin Lutheran got a rookie camp invite from the Packers, coming off a season where he led conference receivers with 73 catches and 1,158 yards and also hauled in 14 touchdowns. Congratulations to him as well!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on May 03, 2016, 01:11:33 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on May 01, 2016, 10:50:53 PM
Additionally, WR Mitch Skarban from Wisconsin Lutheran got a rookie camp invite from the Packers, coming off a season where he led conference receivers with 73 catches and 1,158 yards and also hauled in 14 touchdowns. Congratulations to him as well!
This is a huge leap for the NACC. 2 NFL caliber players. Hopefully this opens doors for NACC schools to even more talented recruits down the road.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: LB40 on May 03, 2016, 06:14:23 PM
No doubt, has to elevate the league in the eyes of outsiders!  Saw on the Lakeland website that senior to be Kezlow Smith had NFL scouts in to see him earlier this spring. https://lakeland.edu/lakeland-college-blog/nfl-scouts-visit-kezlow
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on May 06, 2016, 01:20:15 AM
Quote from: LB40 on May 03, 2016, 06:14:23 PM
No doubt, has to elevate the league in the eyes of outsiders!  Saw on the Lakeland website that senior to be Kezlow Smith had NFL scouts in to see him earlier this spring. https://lakeland.edu/lakeland-college-blog/nfl-scouts-visit-kezlow
That's huge for Lakeland (and NACC), and actually makes a lot of sense considering Smith was the more productive of the two star WRs. Smith's production on the field is there, only question (as it usually tends to be) is does he have the measurables? Esiobu is 6'2 220, so even though he reportedly ran in the high 4.6's, his Anquan Boldin-like build is what sold the Giants on his potential. Smith is smaller and has to make his mark with quickness and speed if he wants to get a shot at the next level. Did he workout for scouts? If so, any word on how he timed in 40, short shuttle, etc.?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: USee on May 06, 2016, 01:07:29 PM
Big game for Sears debut @Wheaton on 9/3. Student against teacher. Josiah is an offensive guru. It will be interesting to see what he does at BU
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on June 13, 2016, 11:42:27 PM
It's getting close to the 2016 season! I've been looking for any recruiting class announcements for NACC schools (as this is generally the time of year those are being finalized) but haven't found anything yet. Does anyone have a lead or inside info on this year's class for any of our programs?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: LB40 on July 22, 2016, 07:21:22 PM
Heard CUW may be getting a good transfer RB from UWW. I'm sure Benny will get 1-2 transfers as well. 
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 01, 2016, 06:39:35 PM
Lakeland WR Kezlow Smith has been named preseason second team All-America: http://www.d3football.com/awards/all-americans/2016-preseason

Smith, who is already Lakeland's all time leader in receiving yards entering his senior season, is the first Muskie to receive this preseason recognition.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: LB40 on August 10, 2016, 10:32:13 PM
With the exception of Lecas last year that looks to be the conference's only other player on the pre season list. Also considerably harder to make the list now since it used to be 4 teams and has narrowed to 2.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: LB40 on August 10, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Anyone doing their homework on the conference teams? Who's your favorite to win it all? Any predictions of the standings before the coaches poll?  Seems like Benedictine has the most coming back, though CUW Aurora and Lakeland have solid returning
groups.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: HansenRatings on August 11, 2016, 10:48:55 AM
Here's how my model sees it (without adjusting for returning starters yet):


School   W-L   Conf   Pool A Probability
Lakeland   5.4-4.6   4.4-1.6   34.8%   
Benedictine   4.9-5.1   4.2-1.8   27.7%   
WI Lutheran   4.5-4.5   3.6-2.4   15.0%   
Concordia-Wis   5.1-4.9   3.4-2.6   12.3%   
Aurora   4.2-5.8   3.1-2.9   9.4%   
Rockford   3.0-7.0   1.6-4.4   0.7%   
Concordia-Chi   1.9-8.1   0.8-5.2   0.1%   

Source: https://loghan.shinyapps.io/Season_Projections/ (https://loghan.shinyapps.io/Season_Projections/)

Nothing earth-shattering here -- this is the same order each team finished in last year.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: LB40 on August 12, 2016, 11:23:55 AM
Tight margins for the top 5! Coaches poll will be out soon- feel like its gotta be

BU
LU
AU
CUW
WLC
RU
CUC
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 19, 2016, 04:34:03 PM
I feel good about the Muskies' chances, though I may or may not be extremely biased in their regard. ;D I don't think they'll have the most orthodox offense this year either, but it got results last year and there's no reason to think it won't again.

On the other hand, Benedictine ought to be right there again, Aurora will make noise if they can start turning those close losses from last year into wins, and Wisconsin Lutheran is never an easy out.

Should be fun.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: badgerwarhawk on August 23, 2016, 01:15:18 PM
Quote from: LB40 on July 22, 2016, 07:21:22 PM
Heard CUW may be getting a good transfer RB from UWW. I'm sure Benny will get 1-2 transfers as well. 

Checking CU-W's roster I don't see any RB transfers from UW-W.  Unless it was someone we gray shirted who doesn't appear on our 2015 roster. 
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 23, 2016, 04:16:06 PM
NACC Preseason Poll
1. Lakeland (10), 93
2. Benedictine (3), 84
3. Concordia Wisconsin, 59
t4. Wisconsin Lutheran (1), 55
t4. Aurora, 55
6. Rockford, 29
7. Concordia Chicago, 17

For whatever it's worth, as these things don't exactly have the most stellar of track records. :)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: LB40 on August 29, 2016, 09:48:17 PM
Any thoughts after the NACC scrimmages? Heard WLC did well vs. Carroll the other night.  Also any predictions for Week One? The week one schedule is:

CUW @ Finlandia
WLC @ Trinity Int'l
Lakeland @ Carroll
MacMurray @ Rockford
AU @ Carthage
Ripon @ CUC
Benedictine @ Wheaton
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on September 01, 2016, 05:37:48 AM
CUC beats Ripon at home.....
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 03, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
Week One
Concordia Wisconsin 31
Finlandia 14

Wisconsin Lutheran 21
Trinity International 55

Lakeland 27
Carroll 24

MacMurray 27
Rockford 21

Aurora 11
Carthage 51

Ripon 30
Concordia Chicago 40

Benedictine 7
#8 Wheaton 26

Referring to the comment above, yes they do! An encouraging start for CUC who only won twice last year. (And I see Benedictine played Wheaton a lot closer than Lakeland did in the playoffs last year.)

Speaking of the Muskies, they put together their best drive of the day, an 87 yard effort, exactly when they needed it and then held on for a nice road win over a good team. Though the 5 turnovers that Carroll had certainly helped. :)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 10, 2016, 12:55:59 AM
The schedule for Week Two:

St. Norbert (0-1) at Benedictine (0-1)
Rockford (0-1) at Maranatha (1-0)
Augsburg (0-1) at Concordia Wisconsin (1-0)
Loras (0-1) at Aurora (0-1)
Byes: Concordia Chicago, Lakeland, Wisconsin Lutheran

Benedictine and St. Norbert in particular should be interesting, with both teams looking to find the win column after losses to tough opposition last week.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on September 10, 2016, 07:36:25 AM
Hoping for Benedictine to crush Saint Norbert.  I hate that team!

And Concordia Chicago goes into week three next week undefeated.  :)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 11, 2016, 02:43:52 PM
Week Two
St. Norbert 14
Benedictine 34

Rockford 34
Maranatha 6

Augsburg 14
Concordia Wisconsin 24

Loras 9
Aurora 14

A 4-0 week for conference teams, headlined by the first career win for Benedictine head coach Josiah Sears; congratulations to him. QB Ryan Sample lit up the Green Knights for 372 yards and 4 TDs in that one.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: USee on September 12, 2016, 10:25:19 AM
I would be very surprised if Benedictine does not win the NACC this year. They have a lot of talent on that team including two D1 transfers on defense. Josiah Sears comes from playoff pedigree and he knows how to win. I think BU is on the rise. Big test this week against Adrian.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 12, 2016, 05:14:59 PM
Hi Usee, Thanks for weighing in.  I was pretty impressed with the way BU played against St. Norbert and am very impressed with Coach Sears thus far.  I truly feel he will turn BU into a consistent winner and hopefully be able to make them nationally relevant! 
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 12, 2016, 05:21:31 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 12, 2016, 05:14:59 PM
Hi Usee, Thanks for weighing in.  I was pretty impressed with the way BU played against St. Norbert and am very impressed with Coach Sears thus far.  I truly feel he will turn BU into a consistent winner and hopefully be able to make them nationally relevant!

Nationally relevant might be hoping for too much, but I believe they are already regionally relevant - they are #9 on my North Region Fan Poll ballot this week.  I've been a voter for several years now, and I can't recall ever having an NACC team on my ballot before.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Zeus51 on September 13, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
I don't think d3dan1515 meant that BU would be nationally relevant this year, but in the years to come under Coach Sears!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 13, 2016, 10:31:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 12, 2016, 05:21:31 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on September 12, 2016, 05:14:59 PM
Hi Usee, Thanks for weighing in.  I was pretty impressed with the way BU played against St. Norbert and am very impressed with Coach Sears thus far.  I truly feel he will turn BU into a consistent winner and hopefully be able to make them nationally relevant!

Nationally relevant might be hoping for too much, but I believe they are already regionally relevant - they are #9 on my North Region Fan Poll ballot this week.  I've been a voter for several years now, and I can't recall ever having an NACC team on my ballot before.
Unfortunately, before our conference can become nationally relevant, one of us has to first win a playoff game (which the NACC, and the IBFC before it, have never done). And even once that milestone is accomplished, there's still the fact that the NACC will be competing against two of Division III's most powerful conferences within its own footprint in recruiting.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 13, 2016, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: Zeus51 on September 13, 2016, 10:03:50 PM
I don't think d3dan1515 meant that BU would be nationally relevant this year, but in the years to come under Coach Sears!

Oh, I fully understood that.  But to become nationally relevant at ANY time in the foreseeable future is probably beyond the ability of ANY coach.  To me, at least, being nationally relevant means fairly consistently reaching at least the third round of the playoffs, and making teams like Mount Union, UWW, Linfield, etc., at least somewhat nervous.  While BU may have already reached the point of making regional semi-powers sit up and take notice, taking the step to 'national relevance' is a whole 'nother problem.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 14, 2016, 09:14:30 AM
I agree with all of your points. What I meant by national relevance is maybe slipping into the others receiving votes category or, even cracking the top 25, but ultimately winning a playoff game. Maybe national relevance was a poor choice of words on my end, but that's my hope for the program over the next few years. What I would really like to see is a W this weekend over Adrian!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 17, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
BU up 21-14 at Half...
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 17, 2016, 06:01:36 PM
Lakeland stuns Albion, driving 86 yards in the final 31 seconds with no timeouts to score the winning TD in a 40-38 contest!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on September 17, 2016, 07:10:07 PM
BU wins 35-28! They also Win in comeback fashion scoring the go ahead TD with a little over a minute left in the ball game. Great game by both teams, very entertaining.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 22, 2016, 10:38:41 PM
Week Three
Alma 31
Concordia Wisconsin 28

Albion 38
Lakeland 40

Hope 57
Concordia Chicago 28

Olivet 30
Wisconsin Lutheran 7

Kalamazoo 55
Rockford 19

Trine 55
Aurora 27

Adrian 28
Benedictine 35

On one hand, good to see the NACC's two favorites scoring wins over quality MIAA opposition. And Concordia Wisconsin came within one stop of entering conference play at 3-0. On the other hand, that's 294 points allowed between the 7 teams when they were all playing at home (averaging 42).

Only three games on the schedule for this weekend, but it's going to be real interesting to see how the Muskies measure up against Platteville. Wisconsin Lutheran hosts Eau Claire, while Concordia Chicago travels to Maranatha and everyone else rests up for the start of NACC play next weekend.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 27, 2016, 09:52:14 PM
Week Four
Concordia Chicago 42
Maranatha 10

#10 UW-Platteville 56
Lakeland 0

UW-Eau Claire 40
Wisconsin Lutheran 14

Hoo boy, that did not go well. Platteville was on point on both sides of the ball, but the Muskies hung in there for about a quarter, until the Pioneers just broke them and the game fell off a cliff at that point. At least it was non-conference.

But there's no time to lick any wounds anymore - it's time for conference play! To start us off, Lakeland hosts the Cheese Bowl, Rockford pays Benedictine a visit, and Wisconsin Lutheran will look for their first win of the season at home against Aurora.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 01, 2016, 06:01:40 PM
BU beats Rockford 67-15...
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 04, 2016, 12:15:13 AM
Other Week Five scores:

Concordia Wisconsin 7
Lakeland 16

The Cheese Bowl stays up here for the 3rd year in a row! It wasn't pretty, but the Muskies defense neutralized CUW's run game, and on a wet, sloppy afternoon, that wasn't going to cut it for the Falcons. (And last I checked, the NACC doesn't award style points in the standings.)

Aurora 48
Wisconsin Lutheran 13

Concordia Chicago 19
Trine 62

Both Benedictine and Aurora recorded over 500 yards of total offense in their wins, while CUC gave up well over 600 in their defeat.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 08, 2016, 05:46:21 PM
BU Wins 51-49 @ CUW.  Crazy back and forth game.  BU Overcame 5 of their own Turnovers to win the game with 30 second left to play.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 08, 2016, 11:52:40 PM
Quote from: d3fan1515 on October 08, 2016, 05:46:21 PM
BU Wins 51-49 @ CUW.  Crazy back and forth game.  BU Overcame 5 of their own Turnovers to win the game with 30 second left to play.
Ryan Sample and Aaron Nixon combined for exactly 1,000 (!) passing yards in the game, along with 11 touchdowns.

Other scores from Week Six:

Concordia Chicago 26
Aurora 28

Wisconsin Lutheran 45
Rockford 21

Aurora is tied for the conference lead with Benedictine at 2-0, albeit not exactly against the projected top teams. They'll have CUW, @ LU and BU in a row in their final three games.

Lakeland 21
Adrian 28

The Muskies had a hard time getting things going on offense, but some big plays including a missed field goal return kept them in it right until the end. The bigger concern, though, is that Michael Whitley had to leave in the 2nd quarter with an injury; with Benedictine coming up next week, this is not the time to have to go to a backup QB.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 15, 2016, 03:18:09 PM
Benedictine leads Lakeland 15-6 at halftime
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 15, 2016, 04:55:41 PM
Week Seven scores:

Lakeland 32
Benedictine 29

;D A very exciting game. The Muskies stormed back with 20 points in the 3rd quarter, and from there it went down to the wire with the Eagles missing a 41 yard field goal that would have tied it with under a minute to go. I was surprised that BU burned two of their timeouts running the clock down on their final offensive possession, rather than saving them for a just in case.

Rockford 14
Concordia Chicago 35

Concordia Wisconsin 14
Wisconsin Lutheran 26

Surprisingly, the Falcons fall to 0-3 in league play.

Aurora 14
Alma 38
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: d3fan1515 on October 15, 2016, 05:01:17 PM
BU loses 32-29.  BU had the lead with about 4:30 minutes to play but gave up a 60+ yard TD run to give the lead back to Lakeland.  BU drove into Lakeland territory for a game tying field goal, but missed.  Tough loss for BU.

BU really needs to find some answers on defense, they have some very talented individual players, but the defense as a whole is not playing good football.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 19, 2016, 11:47:50 PM
It should be noted that Lakeland's two remaining home games, against Wisconsin Lutheran this Saturday and Aurora on November 5, will be played at Sheboygan North HS (http://lakelandmuskies.com/news/2016/10/11/10-11-16FBhomefield.aspx), 1042 School Ave in Sheboygan, due to Taylor Memorial Field becoming a mud pit during the previous home game on October 1. Also on the schedule this weekend, Aurora also looks to go 3-0 in NACC play at Rockford, CUW hosts CUC, and Benedictine is at Olivet who have won 5 straight coming in.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 22, 2016, 06:24:26 PM
Week Eight Scores

Olivet 54
Benedictine 48

Aurora 28
Rockford 21

Concordia Chicago 48
Concordia Wisconsin 38

Wisconsin Lutheran 50
Lakeland 34

NACC Standings

1. Aurora 4-3 (3-0)
2. Wisconsin Lutheran 3-4 (3-1)
3. Benedictine 4-3 (2-1)
4. Lakeland 4-3 (2-1)
5. Concordia Chicago 4-3 (2-1)
6. Concordia Wisconsin 2-5 (0-4)
7. Rockford 1-6 (0-4)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 24, 2016, 09:39:05 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 22, 2016, 06:24:26 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran 50
Lakeland 34

As a Lakeland fan, that was...how can I put this?...not good. The Warriors QB, Mathieson, ate us alive - threw for 4 TDs and ran for 219 yards and 2 more. And it was going so well in the 1st quarter, too, but then WLC kicked it into another gear and simply dominated the middle part of the game. Lakeland recaptured the momentum in the 4th quarter, but after a TD pass that would have made it a one possession game with 8:51 to go was called back for holding, the Muskies never seriously threatened the end zone again and WLC put it away.

And now the door is wide open for Aurora - if they win two out of their last three, they'll have at least a share of their first NACC title in eight years. Lakeland @ Concordia Chicago and Benedictine @ Wisconsin Lutheran will help sort out the other contenders on Saturday.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 29, 2016, 06:25:17 PM
Week Nine scoreboard:

Lakeland 42
Concordia Chicago 14

Benedictine 23
Wisconsin Lutheran 19

Concordia Wisconsin 19
Aurora 20

Rockford 20
Albion 63

With two weeks to go, Aurora sits atop the conference at 4-0, with Lakeland and Benedictine both at 3-1. The Spartans and Muskies meet in Sheboygan next week, and the winner will control their own destiny for a playoff berth.

Also, when the Muskies return to campus next season, they will be doing so at a newly renovated facility (https://lakeland.edu/Lakeland-News/new-outdoor-athletic-facility), featuring a turf field, lights, and most importantly, not having to walk through mud just to get to the seats! ;D
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 05, 2016, 08:28:02 PM
Week Ten:

Aurora 25
Lakeland 55

The Spartans simply had no answers on defense today, as Lakeland racked up 731 yards of total offense and 36 first downs.

Rockford 46
Concordia Wisconsin 49

Rockford took the lead in the final minute but, staring an 0-6 conference season in the face, the Falcons needed only two plays to respond with what proved to be the winning points.

Concordia Chicago 3
Benedictine 47

The Eagles clinch their 7th winning season in the last 8 years; no other NACC program has more than 5 during that span.

Wisconsin Lutheran 29
Kalamazoo 7

So, going into the final week of the regular season, Aurora, Benedictine and Lakeland all sit 4-1 in conference play. Next week, the Spartans and Eagles meet to decide at least a share of the conference title, but the Muskies will claim the NACC's playoff berth if they can get past Rockford on the road.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: NewHawk on November 13, 2016, 06:47:59 PM
Looking forward to seeing the Muskies in Whitewater.  Hopes are for good weather and safe travels.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 14, 2016, 10:03:44 PM
Quote from: NewHawk on November 13, 2016, 06:47:59 PM
Looking forward to seeing the Muskies in Whitewater.  Hopes are for good weather and safe travels.
The good news is there shouldn't be any precipitation on Saturday, but temps are expected to nosedive before then - instead of the unseasonable warm weather we've had for the last couple weeks, it is showing gametime temps in the 30s and wind chills in the 20s for Saturday. Hopefully, the debacle against Platteville earlier this season and the playoff game against Wheaton last year have prepared the Muskies for the level of competition they're going to face, or it could be a long and chilly day.

Week Eleven:

Lakeland 52
Rockford 30

A classic tale of two halves in this one, as it was 50-0 at halftime before Rockford rallied against the Muskie second string and made it more interesting than I would have cared it to be.

Benedictine 27
Aurora 28 (OT)

On the strength of the D3Football.com Play of the Week (http://www.d3football.com/awards/playoftheweek/2016/week11), the Spartans secure their first winning season since 2010 and their first NACC championship (shared) since 2008! Congratulations to them.

Wisconsin Lutheran 43
Concordia Chicago 25

Concordia Wisconsin 6
Hope 31

Final 2016 NACC Standings
1. Lakeland* 5-1 (7-3)
1. Aurora 5-1 (6-4)
3. Benedictine 4-2 (6-4)
3. Wisconsin Lutheran 4-2 (5-5)
5. Concordia Chicago 2-4 (4-6)
6. Concordia Wisconsin 1-5 (3-7)
7. Rockford 0-6 (1-9)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: brewhawk on November 16, 2016, 10:05:33 PM
Warhawks alum here but wishing you guys good luck and safe travels come Saturday.  Hope to see some travel to the Perk.

Grew up close to Lakeland (Kiel) and knew a lot of classmates that went to Lakeland.  Always kept an eye on how they were doing.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 19, 2016, 11:21:05 AM
Today's the day. Time to shock the world. ;D
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 19, 2016, 04:20:08 PM
NCAA Playoffs First Round
Lakeland 27
#2 UW-Whitewater 45

Alas, the world remains un-shocked. The Muskies acquitted themselves well - by virtually any measure, it was the best of their four playoff showings to date - but Whitewater (and especially its run game) was just too strong. Lakeland finishes at 7-4 but has nothing to hang their heads about on this occasion.

The 2016 all-conference teams (http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20161118df74o4) were also released this past week.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Just Bill on December 15, 2016, 03:22:07 PM
Deepest condolences to Lakeland football on the death of Kaelin O'Neil.

http://www.sheboyganpress.com/story/news/local/2016/12/15/amidst-students-death-lakeland-finds-support/95473436/
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: emma17 on December 15, 2016, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on December 15, 2016, 03:22:07 PM
Deepest condolences to Lakeland football on the death of Kaelin O'Neil.

http://www.sheboyganpress.com/story/news/local/2016/12/15/amidst-students-death-lakeland-finds-support/95473436/

So sad. Thanks for sharing Bill.
My prayers are with Kaelin, his family and the school.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 30, 2017, 03:12:19 AM
Justin Gibbons, CB/WR, Aurora University signed undrafted free agent contract with the Indianapolis Colts!

It seems the NACC is on a run of NFL quality talent with the two WRs Skarban and Esiobu getting invites for NFL rookie minicamps last year, and it is expected that Lakeland standout Kezlow Smith will get a tryout invitation before the minicamps kick off in 2017 (If you want to see elite speed on the field, check out his long touchdown grab against UWW in the first round of the 2016 playoffs.)

But back to Gibbons, who is (to my knowledge) the first Aurora Spartan to sign an NFL playing contract. Congratulations to the young man, and I will be rooting for him to continue fighting for his dream and make an NFL roster.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: LB40 on May 08, 2017, 05:20:11 PM
3 NACC guys confirmed in NFL camps! Exciting for them and for the league.  If anyone hears how Gibbons, Smith or Esiobu did, please update!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: HansenRatings on June 14, 2017, 04:46:31 PM
Decided I'm going to spam every conference board with my preseason (non-returning-starter-adjusted) projections.


Team   Rating   Overall   Conference
Lakeland      0.5617   6.4-3.6   4.8-1.2
Benedictine      0.5160   5.7-4.3   4.7-1.3
Wis-Lutheran   0.3684   4.8-4.2   3.9-2.1
Aurora         0.1917   3.4-6.6   2.8-3.2
Concordia-Wis   0.1808   4.1-5.9   2.7-3.3
Concordia-Chi   0.0417   1.5-7.5   1.1-4.8
Rockford      0.0271   1.2-7.8   0.9-5.1

Lakeland & BenU appear to be pulling away from the pack, with Wisconsin Lutheran as a clear-cut 3rd place team. I don't really know what each team's rosters look like in terms of returners, so it'll be interesting to see if things shake up a bit after Kickoff comes out.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
First heard about this in May or June. Finally got the conference to release something:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2017/08/eureka-football-join-nacc-2018
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 04, 2017, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
First heard about this in May or June. Finally got the conference to release something:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2017/08/eureka-football-join-nacc-2018

Looks like a good pickup for the league.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on August 04, 2017, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
First heard about this in May or June. Finally got the conference to release something:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2017/08/eureka-football-join-nacc-2018

Looks like a good pickup for the league.

I think in good years, Eureka will add to the depth in the league, probably knock off a contender, possibly even contend. More importantly, this is a buffer in case Benedictine does go to D-II.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: formerd3db on August 04, 2017, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on August 04, 2017, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
First heard about this in May or June. Finally got the conference to release something:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2017/08/eureka-football-join-nacc-2018

Looks like a good pickup for the league.

I think in good years, Eureka will add to the depth in the league, probably knock off a contender, possibly even contend. More importantly, this is a buffer in case Benedictine does go to D-II.

Pat:
When did you first hear about Benedictine preliminary exploring going to DII?  I tried to find something on their website about it, however, was unable to locate anything (perhaps I was looking in the wrong areas).  What are your thoughts on such a potential move?  And which conference would they likely join-GLIAC or the MWFC DII one in Ohio or perhaps towards Minn?  Their enrollment as well as stadium capacity (both being about the same) would be more similar to the DII schools in the Ohio league (which includes Hillsdale).  Overall, I am surprised they would want to consider this, however, there are many surprises anymore in college football, particularly at the DII and DIII divisions.  Your thoughts?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: AndOne on August 05, 2017, 12:10:34 AM
Pat likely has both additional and deeper thoughts on the subject, but talk of BU going D2 has been in the air for around 3 years or so if memory serves. Many outside the local BU area probably haven't heard much scuttlebutt about the possibility because much of the talk was in rather whispered tones until the last year or so.
My personal belief is that there may be four primary reasons for such a possible move;
1. The D2 market in the local area is somewhat underserved. Lewis is the only D2 in the local vicinity. Over the IL-WI border to the north is UW-Parkside, Quincy is in SW IL, and Purdue-Northwest is in the NW corner of IN. The next closest D2s are across the lake in Michigan. There are plenty of available bodies in the Chicagoland area.
2. BU has longed for CCIW membership for several years. As of today, they don't even have a little toe in the door much less an entire foot.
3. By giving out athletic scholarships, BU believes it will bring in additional tuition and related dollars that will more than offset the  cost of the scholarships.
4. Success in the D2 athletic arena may result in increased overall visibility, and increase the chances of an increase in enrollment. This, of course, would mean increased cash reserves which would allow for growth and expansion.

There are those who are pretty familiar with the situation who will swear it's a done deal, and just a matter of time. Others still aren't sure the possibility will ever come to fruition.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 05, 2017, 11:42:15 AM
The institution hasn't made its decision yet regarding pursuing Division II membership, but it has definitely been exploring it. Benedictine probably needs to make its decision before the end of the year, because I understand the NCAA Division II membership committee would be make its decisions in February.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: formerd3db on August 05, 2017, 05:44:41 PM
AndOne and Pat:

Thanks for the information.  The question then, I would think, is it a wise decision for BU?  Certainly for some DIII schools, it would not be, however, from what you have shared that is "known" to date, it seems like it might be a very feasible option for BU.  I recall when Upper Iowa left the IIAC and many people laughed at them, actually scoffed and believed it would be a huge mistake.  Yet, they have appeared to finally turned the corner and are doing well in a good DII conference (at least the last year).  For other schools, the DII trial did not work out as well (Minn-Morris, McMurry in TX, and was it Millsaps? in MS as I recall).   It will be interesting to see what happens at BU.  If they decide to stay at DIII, it would be nice to see them get in the CCIW-that would make the best sense I would think.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: AndOne on August 05, 2017, 10:31:14 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on August 05, 2017, 05:44:41 PM
AndOne and Pat:

Thanks for the information.  The question then, I would think, is it a wise decision for BU?  Certainly for some DIII schools, it would not be, however, from what you have shared that is "known" to date, it seems like it might be a very feasible option for BU.  I recall when Upper Iowa left the IIAC and many people laughed at them, actually scoffed and believed it would be a huge mistake.  Yet, they have appeared to finally turned the corner and are doing well in a good DII conference (at least the last year).  For other schools, the DII trial did not work out as well (Minn-Morris, McMurry in TX, and was it Millsaps? in MS as I recall).   It will be interesting to see what happens at BU.  If they decide to stay at DIII, it would be nice to see them get in the CCIW-that would make the best sense I would think.

Perhaps, then, D2 is what it will be. Because unless the current positions of some of the member schools changes radically, BU won't be getting into the CCIW any time soon, if ever.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 06, 2017, 01:05:30 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on August 05, 2017, 05:44:41 PM
AndOne and Pat:

Thanks for the information.  The question then, I would think, is it a wise decision for BU?  Certainly for some DIII schools, it would not be, however, from what you have shared that is "known" to date, it seems like it might be a very feasible option for BU.  I recall when Upper Iowa left the IIAC and many people laughed at them, actually scoffed and believed it would be a huge mistake.  Yet, they have appeared to finally turned the corner and are doing well in a good DII conference (at least the last year).  For other schools, the DII trial did not work out as well (Minn-Morris, McMurry in TX, and was it Millsaps? in MS as I recall).   It will be interesting to see what happens at BU.  If they decide to stay at DIII, it would be nice to see them get in the CCIW-that would make the best sense I would think.

It was Mississippi College. This will only be their fourth year in a Division II schedule and they have gone 1-9, 2-8 and 3-7 in the first three years, so I would think the jury is out on the Choctaws.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: formerd3db on August 06, 2017, 03:45:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 06, 2017, 01:05:30 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on August 05, 2017, 05:44:41 PM
AndOne and Pat:

Thanks for the information.  The question then, I would think, is it a wise decision for BU?  Certainly for some DIII schools, it would not be, however, from what you have shared that is "known" to date, it seems like it might be a very feasible option for BU.  I recall when Upper Iowa left the IIAC and many people laughed at them, actually scoffed and believed it would be a huge mistake.  Yet, they have appeared to finally turned the corner and are doing well in a good DII conference (at least the last year).  For other schools, the DII trial did not work out as well (Minn-Morris, McMurry in TX, and was it Millsaps? in MS as I recall).   It will be interesting to see what happens at BU.  If they decide to stay at DIII, it would be nice to see them get in the CCIW-that would make the best sense I would think.

It was Mississippi College. This will only be their fourth year in a Division II schedule and they have gone 1-9, 2-8 and 3-7 in the first three years, so I would think the jury is out on the Choctaws.

Thanks for the clarification, Pat.  My mistake.  I knew it was one or the other of those two (not counting Miss Valley State), but was too lazy to take the time to look it up, hence the "?" mark.  I agree with you it is too early to pass judgement on the MC program at that level to date, again, similar to the Upper Iowa experience.  It does take time in transitions at any of the levels as everyone would agree I'm sure.  In that same vein, we'll see how Davenport University here in Michigan fares in the next 3-4 years as they have now transitioned to the DII GLIAC in only their 3 year of fb (actually, only two of competition as the first year was just a season of organized practice).

Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Just Bill on August 07, 2017, 02:27:32 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on August 04, 2017, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on August 04, 2017, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
First heard about this in May or June. Finally got the conference to release something:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2017/08/eureka-football-join-nacc-2018

Looks like a good pickup for the league.

I think in good years, Eureka will add to the depth in the league, probably knock off a contender, possibly even contend. More importantly, this is a buffer in case Benedictine does go to D-II.

Pat:
When did you first hear about Benedictine preliminary exploring going to DII? 

This was the original release on April 4: http://benueagles.com/news/2017/4/4/general-benedictine-to-explore-ncaa-dii-transition.aspx
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: formerd3db on August 08, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
Thank you very much Just Bill for the link.  In reading that, the reasoning does have some legitimate reasons for consideration.  Still, I'm sure some of the/us DIII purists will think they should remain as is. Again, each school has to look at what they believe is in their longterm best interests.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 10, 2017, 08:45:30 AM
On a random note. With Maranatha canning their program, it seems the trickle-down effect hit the feeder school Maranatha Baptist Academy as they cancelled their 8-man football season because of low numbers.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Gregory Sager on August 21, 2017, 02:07:15 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on August 07, 2017, 02:27:32 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on August 04, 2017, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on August 04, 2017, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
First heard about this in May or June. Finally got the conference to release something:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2017/08/eureka-football-join-nacc-2018

Looks like a good pickup for the league.

I think in good years, Eureka will add to the depth in the league, probably knock off a contender, possibly even contend. More importantly, this is a buffer in case Benedictine does go to D-II.

Pat:
When did you first hear about Benedictine preliminary exploring going to DII? 

This was the original release on April 4: http://benueagles.com/news/2017/4/4/general-benedictine-to-explore-ncaa-dii-transition.aspx

... and, as is usually the case in such matters, the official press release from the school didn't come out until long after the school was already well into the process. As AndOne said, it's been in the wind for two or three years now, and I first heard last fall from someone who had been a BU athletics department employee as recently as a little over a year ago that the school was very serious about moving to D2, further indicating that there are Benedictine athletics people who consider it to be a done deal that the school will at least apply for D2 membership.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 22, 2017, 01:18:35 PM
2017 NACC Preseason Poll
1. Lakeland (8), 85
2. Aurora (2), 80
3. Benedictine (3), 76
4. Wisconsin Lutheran (1), 60
5. Concordia Wisconsin, 44
6. Concordia Chicago, 32
7. Rockford, 15
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 28, 2017, 10:45:17 AM
Get excited, ladies and gentlemen, it is now Week One! Our schedule:

Saturday, September 2
Carthage at Aurora, 1:00 pm
Concordia Chicago at Ripon, 1:00 pm
Finlandia at Concordia Wisconsin, 1:00 pm
Rockford at MacMurray, 2:00 pm
Carroll at Lakeland, 6:00 pm
Trinity International at Wisconsin Lutheran, 6:00 pm
#6 Wheaton at Benedictine, 7:00 pm
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 29, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
There is a NACC Pick 'Em board I run. Join if you want.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2017, 12:44:52 PM
I'm going to be at Lakeland tomorrow night for the opener -- first trip there and looking forward to it!

I'll be coming from the Ripon-Concordia Chicago game, so I probably won't be super early.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: hickory_cornhusker on September 01, 2017, 08:02:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2017, 12:44:52 PM
I'm going to be at Lakeland tomorrow night for the opener -- first trip there and looking forward to it!

I'll be coming from the Ripon-Concordia Chicago game, so I probably won't be super early.

Do not, under any circumstances, go over the speed limit through Rosendale. They will pull you over. Seriously, that town is known for being a speed trap.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 02, 2017, 11:19:32 AM
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on September 01, 2017, 08:02:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2017, 12:44:52 PM
I'm going to be at Lakeland tomorrow night for the opener -- first trip there and looking forward to it!

I'll be coming from the Ripon-Concordia Chicago game, so I probably won't be super early.

Do not, under any circumstances, go over the speed limit through Rosendale. They will pull you over. Seriously, that town is known for being a speed trap.

Sounds like Sturtevant.....Hoping I don't run into speed traps as I head up to Jackson today for some Saturday HS football.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Look It Up on September 02, 2017, 04:38:27 PM
Thanks Hickory. I got that feeling as I was coming to Ripon but fortunately didn't get any mars lights. I'll be doubly careful heading back!
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 02, 2017, 11:45:51 PM
Week One scoreboard:

Carthage 24
Aurora 0

Concordia Chicago 28
Ripon 20

Finlandia 6
Concordia Wisconsin 42

Rockford 14
MacMurray 22

Carroll 29
Lakeland 43

Trinity International 58
Wisconsin Lutheran 21

#6 Wheaton 57
Benedictine 14

I was quite impressed with Lakeland's new stadium. (And to think, a day like today where it rained for a couple hours before the game, the old field would have gotten turned into a mud pit right away!) Also impressed with the Muskies performance today, as the game really wasn't as close as the final score indicated IMO.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 10, 2017, 02:21:17 PM
Week Two results:

Benedictine 29 (1-1)
St. Norbert 7

Concordia Wisconsin 16 (1-1)
Augsburg 38

Aurora 31 (1-1)
Loras 26

Wisconsin Lutheran 20 (0-2)
UW-Eau Claire 34

Exhibition
Robert Morris-Peoria 0
Rockford 44

The Eagles look to have put a beatdown on St. Norbert, holding the Green Knights under 200 yards of total offense while racking up over 500 themselves.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 12, 2017, 09:29:34 AM
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on September 01, 2017, 08:02:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2017, 12:44:52 PM
I'm going to be at Lakeland tomorrow night for the opener -- first trip there and looking forward to it!

I'll be coming from the Ripon-Concordia Chicago game, so I probably won't be super early.

Do not, under any circumstances, go over the speed limit through Rosendale. They will pull you over. Seriously, that town is known for being a speed trap.

I've been nailed twice. I'm a slow learner   :(    They like to sit on the north and south edges of town.  If you do get nailed you can buy a t-shirt at the gas station to commemorate the event.

I always thought Rosendale had to be the #1 speed trap in Wisconsin but later learned I was mistaken.  Can't remember the name of the town but it's some small burg along the Mississippi River in southwest Wisconsin.  You drive down a large hill as you enter the town and they sit at the bottom of it.   
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 12, 2017, 12:31:32 PM
Of course, every town in Wisconsin is a speed trap if you have Illinois license plates.

A friend of mine who lived in rural northern Wisconsin says that the local cops call the town's income derived from speeding tickets "the FIB Fund".   :D
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 17, 2017, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 12, 2017, 12:31:32 PM
Of course, every town in Wisconsin is a speed trap if you have Illinois license plates.

A friend of mine who lived in rural northern Wisconsin says that the local cops call the town's income derived from speeding tickets "the FIB Fund".   :D

Or you could try, you know, not speeding? :P ;D

Week Three scores:

Aurora 21 (1-2)
Olivet 37

Benedictine 40 (1-2)
Alma 45

Wisconsin Lutheran 7 (0-3)
Trine 55

Concordia Wisconsin 7 (1-2)
Albion 79

Lakeland 35 (1-1)
Hope 37

Concordia Chicago 41 (2-0)
Kalamazoo 29

Rockford 7 (0-2)
Adrian 62

Disappointing that the Muskies were unable to pull out the win yesterday. Their offense had its way with Hope's defense for the most part, and when you see numbers like 564 yards of total offense, eight trips to the red zone, and over 42 minutes of possession, you would expect that to lead to a victory. But credit to Hope, who made big plays in all three phases when they needed to, especially in the 4th quarter. The turning point came with about 10 minutes left, where the Muskies were held at the goal line and then Hope quickly scored the other way; instead of potentially being a tie game, Lakeland was instead staring at a 14 point deficit which proved to be too much to overcome.

Some of the other scores are...not good. Notably, Benedictine made a furious comeback after being 26 points down with 10:37 to go, coming within a 4th down stop of getting the ball back in the final minute with a chance to win. Also, the Cougars pick up their 2nd straight road win; while neither Ripon nor Kalamazoo is highly regarded, that can only be encouraging for a program that has failed to reach .500 in conference play since their 10-1 campaign in 2012.

Only one NACC team on the schedule next week, and it's a doozy as Lakeland travels to Platteville looking to avenge a 56-0 beat down from last season.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 24, 2017, 02:18:21 PM
Week Four score:

Lakeland 22 (1-2)
#13 UW-Platteville 56

The Pioneers gained over 500 yards of total offense in a game they controlled the entire way.

Next week, conference play begins! Wisconsin Lutheran travels to Aurora, Lakeland looks to retain the Cheese Bowl for a 4th straight year at Concordia Wisconsin, and Benedictine travels to Rockford. Meanwhile, Concordia Chicago hopes to continue their hot start as they host Trine.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 01, 2017, 08:56:36 PM
Week Five scores:

Lakeland 60 (1-0, 2-2)
Concordia Wisconsin 14 (0-1, 1-3)

Wisconsin Lutheran 14 (0-1, 0-4)
Aurora 20 (1-0, 2-2)

Benedictine 20 (1-0, 2-2)
Rockford 17 (0-1, 0-3)

Trine 44
Concordia Chicago 7 (0-0, 2-2)

A dominant performance by the Muskies to retain the Cheese Bowl for an unprecedented 4th consecutive year, gaining over 700 yards as the CUW defense had no answers for their second game in a row. In other action, Aurora and Benedictine each sealed their games with long drives after their opponents closed to within one score - the Spartans burning the final 6:38 of their contest.

Next week, CUC opens NACC play with Aurora at home, CUW travels to Benedictine, and WLC hosts Rockford with each team seeking its first (official) win. Lakeland plays non-conference and finally gets to return home for the first time since the opener! ;D
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 10, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Week Six scores:

Aurora 16 (2-0, 3-2)
Concordia Chicago 14 (0-1, 2-2)

Concordia Wisconsin 14 (0-2, 1-4)
Benedictine 40 (2-0, 3-2)

Rockford 20 (0-2, 0-4)
Wisconsin Lutheran 41 (1-1, 1-4)

Adrian 40
Lakeland 47 (1-0, 3-2)

That was really a fascinating game to watch on Saturday with the sharp contrast in styles. Adrian's offense is pure old school (59 runs against only 22 passes), but it was certainly effective. On the other hand, the Muskies had very little success on the ground but gained over 400 yards through the air. The end result was Whitley throwing a school record 7 TD passes, and Lakeland needed every bit of it and an interception in the end zone to seal a hard-fought victory.

Next week, we've got the big showdown with Lakeland hosting Benedictine, the Luther Cup is on the line as WLC pays CUW a visit, Rockford hosts Concordia Chicago, and Aurora steps out of NACC play to take on Alma.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: fulbakdad on October 13, 2017, 09:39:34 PM
Concordia Chicago wins a decisive win@
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 17, 2017, 12:10:12 AM
Week Seven scores:

Benedictine 21 (2-1, 3-3)
Lakeland 57 (2-0, 4-2)

Wisconsin Lutheran 22 (2-1, 2-4)
Concordia Wisconsin 19 (0-3, 1-5)

Concordia Chicago 14 (0-2, 2-3)
Rockford 29 (1-2, 1-4)

Alma 27
Aurora 19 (2-0, 3-3)

Was not expecting that at all. Nice to see Lakeland's offense keep rolling in what can only be described as craptacular conditions, but Benedictine also hurt their cause with four turnovers and a blocked punt (recovered for an LU touchdown). The loss deals a crushing blow to BU's playoff aspirations, virtually eliminating any AQ chance in a 3 way tie as well - the NACC's tiebreaker is head-to-head point differential.

Although they did have an exhibition win earlier this season, Rockford's win officially snaps a 12 game losing streak for them. Next week, Lakeland travels to Wisconsin Lutheran while Aurora hosts Rockford, with both the Muskies and Spartans looking to remain unblemished in the NACC heading into their matchup on the 28th; the battle for Concordia supremacy (in our league, anyways) heads to River Forest; and Benedictine hosts Olivet.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 21, 2017, 09:26:40 PM
Week Eight scores:

Lakeland 48 (3-0, 5-2)
Wisconsin Lutheran 0 (2-2, 2-5)

Rockford 21 (1-3, 1-5)
Aurora 28 (3-0, 4-3)

Concordia Wisconsin 17 (0-4, 1-6)
Concordia Chicago 37 (1-2, 3-3)

Olivet 37
Benedictine 43 (2-1, 4-3)

Lakeland used a dominant performance on both sides of the ball, holding the Warriors to just 120 yards of offense to bag their fourth straight win and their first shutout since 2015. Aurora opened their new Spartan Stadium with a slightly harder fought victory, but they count exactly the same on the standings page, and both teams remain unblemished in NACC play heading into their showdown next week. Elsewhere, Benedictine scored two touchdowns in the final 3:13 to overcome a late 9 point deficit and knock off a good Olivet squad. But the problem for them is that they need some help to get back into the AQ race, and they're running out of time to get it. Finally, Concordia Chicago snapped a three game losing streak to get back to .500 overall.

Next week, besides the aforementioned LU-AU game, the Eagles pay a visit to the Cougars, while the Regents host the Falcons, who have now lost six in a row since their season opening victory. Wisconsin Lutheran steps out of conference to host Albion.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 30, 2017, 02:50:26 PM
Week Nine scores:

Lakeland 47 (4-0, 6-2)
Aurora 38 (3-1, 4-4)

Benedictine 61 (3-1, 5-3)
Concordia Chicago 32 (1-3, 3-4)

Concordia Wisconsin 26 (1-4, 2-6)
Rockford 20 (1-4, 1-6)

Albion 48
Wisconsin Lutheran 14 (2-2, 2-6)

It was not easy, it was not pretty, and it was a game where Aurora controlled much of the 2nd half. But behind a 4 yard TD pass with :02 left (and another score on the final lateral play), Lakeland escaped Spartan Athletic Park with a win to take command of the NACC title race. One more win will send the Muskies to a 3rd straight playoff appearance, which they'll have a chance to lock up at home against Concordia Chicago on Saturday.

Elsewhere in the league, CUW got back into the win column and home field advantage was apparently not a thing this week. In Week Ten, Benedictine hosts WLC, Aurora pays a visit to CUW, and Rockford welcomes Kalamazoo for non-conference play.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 05, 2017, 11:46:55 PM
Week Ten:

Concordia Chicago 13 (1-4, 3-5)
Lakeland 49 (5-0, 7-2)

Wisconsin Lutheran 7 (2-3, 2-7)
Benedictine 44 (4-1, 6-3)

Aurora 36 (4-1, 5-4)
Concordia Wisconsin 14 (1-5, 2-7)

Kalamazoo 13
Rockford 6 (1-4, 1-7)

Obviously, Dezmon Eddie has no plans of giving back the No. 1 RB position for the Muskies, as he ran for a school record 308 yards yesterday and has 841 all-purpose yards and 8 TDe over the last three games. And that was the major reason the Muskies rolled to their 6th straight win and clinched the NACC's automatic bid.

However, that may not have even been the biggest story of the game, as Michael Whitley had to be carted off the field late in the 1st half. I don't know how severe it will turn out of be, but if he is unable to go, I think you can stick a fork in Lakeland's playoff chances.

To close out the regular season, Lakeland hosts Rockford, Aurora and Benedictine meet in Lisle, CUC pays a visit to WLC, and CUW hosts Hope.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2017, 03:07:35 PM
Latest regional rankings are out:
http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2017/second-regional-ranking
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 11, 2017, 05:33:32 PM
Lakeland finishes regular season 8-2, Aurora and Benedictine brawl after the game.

In regard to Lakeland, are they resting Whitley, or is he injured?
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 11, 2017, 09:51:20 PM
Week Eleven:

Rockford 31 (1-5, 1-8)
Lakeland 57 (6-0, 8-2)

Aurora 14 (4-2, 5-5)
Benedictine 20 (5-1, 7-3)

Concordia Chicago 27 (1-5, 3-6)
Wisconsin Lutheran 29 (3-3, 3-7)

Hope 70
Concordia Wisconsin 6 (1-5, 2-8)

Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 11, 2017, 05:33:32 PM
In regard to Lakeland, are they resting Whitley, or is he injured?

He's hurt; he got carted off late in the 1st half last week. Johnathan Hagerty got the start today, and he looked fine with what they asked him to do today, but I doubt that will cut it against playoff opposition.

Also of note, a crazy finish to the CUC-WLC game as the Cougars botched an attempt to run the final seconds off the clock on 4th down, turned it over on downs, and Grant Fleming promptly deposited a 39 yard field goal to win it for the Warriors.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 13, 2017, 12:21:56 AM
That's such a shame. Would have loved to see him get one last shot at winning a playoff game for the NACC. Hopefully Hagerty can get the ball to his playmakers and keep it interesting.

Similar circumstance in Case Western game. Carnegie could have taken knees and ended the game but got called for unsportmanlike conduct and had a punt block and returned for a touchdown. College football=Greatest sport in the world
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: mr_mom on November 13, 2017, 11:12:23 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 13, 2017, 12:21:56 AM
That's such a shame. Would have loved to see him get one last shot at winning a playoff game for the NACC. Hopefully Hagerty can get the ball to his playmakers and keep it interesting.

Similar circumstance in Case Western game. Carnegie could have taken knees and ended the game but got called for unsportmanlike conduct and had a punt block and returned for a touchdown. College football=Greatest sport in the world

Damn straight!  +K
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 14, 2017, 01:00:19 PM
Quote from: mr_mom on November 13, 2017, 11:12:23 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 13, 2017, 12:21:56 AM
That's such a shame. Would have loved to see him get one last shot at winning a playoff game for the NACC. Hopefully Hagerty can get the ball to his playmakers and keep it interesting.

Similar circumstance in Case Western game. Carnegie could have taken knees and ended the game but got called for unsportmanlike conduct and had a punt block and returned for a touchdown. College football=Greatest sport in the world

Damn straight!  +K

Considering how rough of a year WLC had this year, I'm happy my alma mater pulled one out in the end.

As for Lakeland, it was already a uphill climb regardless of who was at QB. Tough to say this but it'll probably be a one-and-done again for the NACC.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 15, 2017, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 14, 2017, 01:00:19 PM
As for Lakeland, it was already a uphill climb regardless of who was at QB. Tough to say this but it'll probably be a one-and-done again for the NACC.

Beating Oshkosh will be a challenge even for the very best teams. For the Muskies, given that we haven't been able to run the ball against or stop WIAC opposition in recent meetings, and with our biggest difference maker out (AFAIK), I have a feeling it's going to be a long day. But I hope they prove me wrong! ;D

For the NACC to start winning playoff games, what we need is teams to start finishing better than 8-2 so they can get a more favorable 1st round draw than the usual top 5 teams.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 16, 2017, 11:18:59 AM
It's going to be a long day Ryan.   ;)
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 16, 2017, 09:01:53 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 16, 2017, 11:18:59 AM
It's going to be a long day Ryan.   ;)

Maybe it will, heck, probably it will. But maybe it won't. As the old saying goes, that's why they don't play games on paper. :P
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on December 05, 2017, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 16, 2017, 09:01:53 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 16, 2017, 11:18:59 AM
It's going to be a long day Ryan.   ;)

Maybe it will, heck, probably it will. But maybe it won't. As the old saying goes, that's why they don't play games on paper. :P

NCAA Playoffs First Round:

Lakeland 0
#3 UW-Oshkosh 63

Just so the record is complete, it was in fact a long day for the Muskies.
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2018, 11:48:29 AM
This is not new as a concept, but Benedictine's dalliance with Division II is moving forward in the process:
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/01/benedictine-looking-to-d2
Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: formerd3db on January 20, 2018, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2018, 11:48:29 AM
This is not new as a concept, but Benedictine's dalliance with Division II is moving forward in the process:
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/01/benedictine-looking-to-d2

Pat:
What is your "gut feeling" on this? Do you think a) the NCAA will actually approve their application and b) is this really a realistic move for Benedictine? Not to be negative towards them, but they can't even draw large attendance at their football games at the DIII level, although, we could say that also applies to most of the other DII schools in the Midwest as many of them have even less attendance than a great number of the DIII schools everywhere. What do you ( and anyone else here) think?

Title: Re: NACC football
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 21, 2018, 05:38:04 PM
FYI - the DII application process is complicated and a lot of it has to do with parts of the application that no one sees... so I'd argue hard to calculate. It is a multi-month process including on site visit(s).

As for attendance... never known that to be a determining factor in anything. D1 schools shouldn't be in their division if that is factor.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on January 24, 2018, 06:40:19 PM
I'm well aware that the application process for transition to DII is extremely complicated.  You are correct that there are a lot of factors that are part of it and evaluated.  The same is true for transitioning down to DIII and/or a school establishing a DIII program  or an NAIA school that petitions to transition to DIII.

Regarding the attendance issue, certainly it is not a factor, rather I was just commenting on/referring to how it is somewhat not what one would might expect, although it obviously is not what occurs (and we know that in some years, for example in the DI MAC, DIII schools have outdrawn them in attendance for certain single games). Just an observation.  Yet in one sense, I would think that an institution would prefer to have increased attendance since they had made the decision to shell out $ for scholarships.  Ideally, that would be the desire/best scenario, although again, we know that doesn't happen.     
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 26, 2018, 12:12:48 PM
In order to draw well at any small-college level you need townie support; you can't simply rely upon students and the people who have a connection to the school (alunni, faculty, staff, relatives, etc.) to fill the stands. I've never seen any hugely-attended BU athletics events in Lisle, which doesn't come as any surprise; small-college athletics are completely swallowed up in Chicagoland by a million other things going on that are of interest to the public. There may be exceptions, but it's my observation that townie support is restricted to schools located in small cities and medium-sized or large villages that are far away from major urban areas.

Again, a look at Lewis is informative, since Lewis is a D2 school that's only a dozen miles away from Benedictine. Last season the Flyers had a pretty good year in men's basketball, winning 19 games while playing in one of D2's better men's basketball leagues, the GLVC; they drew an average of a little less than 600 fans per home game, which meant that they were outdrawn by four CCIW teams, while another four CCIW came pretty close to Lewis's average. This year the Flyers are down, and they're being outdrawn by eight CCIW teams.

Bottom line: I don't think that Benedictine sports will draw any better for D2 events than the Bennies have had for D3 events.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on January 26, 2018, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 26, 2018, 12:12:48 PM
In order to draw well at any small-college level you need townie support; you can't simply rely upon students and the people who have a connection to the school (alunni, faculty, staff, relatives, etc.) to fill the stands. I've never seen any hugely-attended BU athletics events in Lisle, which doesn't come as any surprise; small-college athletics are completely swallowed up in Chicagoland by a million other things going on that are of interest to the public. There may be exceptions, but it's my observation that townie support is restricted to schools located in small cities and medium-sized or large villages that are far away from major urban areas.

Again, a look at Lewis is informative, since Lewis is a D2 school that's only a dozen miles away from Benedictine. Last season the Flyers had a pretty good year in men's basketball, winning 19 games while playing in one of D2's better men's basketball leagues, the GLVC; they drew an average of a little less than 600 fans per home game, which meant that they were outdrawn by four CCIW teams, while another four CCIW came pretty close to Lewis's average. This year the Flyers are down, and they're being outdrawn by eight CCIW teams.

Bottom line: I don't think that Benedictine sports will draw any better for D2 events than the Bennies have had for D3 events.

Excellent comments/analysis, Gregory.  I agree with you 100% that town support is a big plus factor and, for sure, your Chicagoland is a somewhat "different animal" in that regard.  There are, though as you and I know, a few times when some temporary "abnormalities" occur and I'll use my Hope as an example.  For the most part, even "way back when" in my own playing days there, Hope has had excellent attendance and extremely high town/community support in attendance (I'm not including basketball here, even though this applies to that sport there also) even in tough times.  However, once in awhile, what I will call some "strange or slightly surprising" situations occur such as these past two years.  With the change to HC alum Stuursma and his new staff, which has brought a change in direction and Hope returning to consecutive winning seasons (7-3 in his first year and 8-2 this past season), I have been disappointed in what I would call somewhat dismal attendance.  This is certainly not what I would expect for a winning program and in view of the history as I've mentioned.  However, perhaps this will improve (as it often does in these situations) if Hope's teams continue in this current vein and returning back to consistent/annual "high" winning seasons in the W-L column. 

Anyway, I will be anxious to see how this might play out this fall in 2019, although if the attendance trend continues as it has, I will admittedly be disappointed.  Hopefully (no pun intended), times have not changed that much. ???  And...we'll see how it plays out with regard to BU as you have mentioned (if they are successful in their application for transition to DII.)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on January 30, 2018, 02:42:08 PM
My guess is the BU switch is more motivated by empty dorm rooms than empty seats in the stands. They had 77 guys on 2017 roster, 101 five years ago. Perhaps enrollment trends are reflected in those numbers. Even if that decline is just football-specific, if seven full equivalency skollies (on average per year) restore football roster to previous numbers, the switch to D2 will have paid for itself — and then some.

I think they also recognize a market opportunity there. Lots of Chicagoland/SE Wisconsin D2-level players end up at area D3s simply for lack of another regional option. I think they'll get the pick of those kids. Grants and academic skollies are being given away by many small private schools (such as BU) like it's Halloween candy.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2018, 02:07:30 PM
FYI - a source confirms that Benedictine did officially apply for DII membership. We won't know an answer until June at the earliest from the NCAA/DII.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: USee on March 01, 2018, 04:25:08 PM
Josiah Sears has left Benedictine to become Offensive Coordinator at IMG Academy in Florida

https://twitter.com/Jason__Dill/status/968922536976187393


Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on March 05, 2018, 02:34:28 PM
Interesting move. IMG Academy is (ostensibly) a high school.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: dachampishere on March 31, 2018, 01:48:57 AM
Any news on the new Benedictine head football coach or who the candidates might be or when they will be interviewing them????
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on March 31, 2018, 10:05:38 AM
No but they do have a new OC — Pat McAvoy former OC at St Norbert
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: dachampishere on March 31, 2018, 02:29:48 PM
That's till the new head coach comes in and wants to hire his own people. The reality of college football
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on April 24, 2018, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: dachampishere on March 31, 2018, 01:48:57 AM
Any news on the new Benedictine head football coach or who the candidates might be or when they will be interviewing them????

Benedictine makes a hire.

http://benueagles.com/news/2018/4/24/mccaslin-tabbed-as-next-leader-of-benedictine-football.aspx
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on April 24, 2018, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: WW on April 24, 2018, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: dachampishere on March 31, 2018, 01:48:57 AM
Any news on the new Benedictine head football coach or who the candidates might be or when they will be interviewing them????

Benedictine makes a hire.

http://benueagles.com/news/2018/4/24/mccaslin-tabbed-as-next-leader-of-benedictine-football.aspx

Experience working with both Lance Leipold and Chris Creighton.  Hard to pick two better coaches to learn from before your first HC gig. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on April 24, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
As well as experience at the D2 and D1 levels. Should be useful presuming Benedictine is successful in its D2 application. All in all appears to be a good fit.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on May 26, 2018, 12:10:37 AM
Former Benedictine WR Matt Fleming signs contract with Chicago Bears after showing out at rookie minicamp. NACC's got talent, been sayin it for years  ;)
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/13/matt-fleming-chicago-bears-rookie-minicamp-benedictine/
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on July 12, 2018, 08:46:49 PM
Concordia Chicago has a new head coach (https://www.cucougars.com/news/2018/7/11/mike-juscik-appointed-head-coach-for-concordia-chicago-football.aspx), as they promoted defensive coordinator Mike Juscik to replace Randy Awrey who resigned after 5 seasons at the helm. Seems like a strange time for a coaching change...
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2018, 12:02:37 PM
A little additional information in our story:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2018/07/awrey-steps-down-at-cuc
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on July 13, 2018, 04:37:17 PM
Benedictine transition to DII has been approved. It's a multi-year process, so the "when" part is unclear as it affects football. They'll play their DIII schedule this season but I believe will be ineligible for post-season.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 01, 2018, 01:24:20 PM
Quote from: WW on July 13, 2018, 04:37:17 PM
Benedictine transition to DII has been approved. It's a multi-year process, so the "when" part is unclear as it affects football. They'll play their DIII schedule this season but I believe will be ineligible for post-season.
The NACC said in a separate statement that this will be their final season in the conference, and confirmed that they are ineligible for the playoffs. So if BU were to win the NACC title this season, would the Pool A bid pass to the 2nd place team or would it be lost?

On a different note, Leanthony Reasnover of Eureka was named 3rd team preseason All-America at RB!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on August 01, 2018, 01:29:13 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on August 01, 2018, 01:24:20 PM
Quote from: WW on July 13, 2018, 04:37:17 PM
Benedictine transition to DII has been approved. It's a multi-year process, so the "when" part is unclear as it affects football. They'll play their DIII schedule this season but I believe will be ineligible for post-season.
The NACC said in a separate statement that this will be their final season in the conference, and confirmed that they are ineligible for the playoffs. So if BU were to win the NACC title this season, would the Pool A bid pass to the 2nd place team or would it be lost?

Speculation on my part, but I believe the conference can award their automatic bid to whoever they want.  Obviously, it's customary to give that to the league champion, but not required.  In this scenario, it seems clear that they would award the bid to the tournament-eligible team that finishes highest in the league standings. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 17, 2018, 01:46:56 PM
2018 NACC Preseason Poll
1. Lakeland (12), 123
2. Aurora (3), 105
3. Benedictine, 88
4. Eureka (1), 78
5. Wisconsin Lutheran, 66
6. Concordia Wisconsin, 44
7. Concordia Chicago, 39
8. Rockford, 33
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on August 27, 2018, 09:59:53 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on July 12, 2018, 08:46:49 PM
Concordia Chicago has a new head coach (https://www.cucougars.com/news/2018/7/11/mike-juscik-appointed-head-coach-for-concordia-chicago-football.aspx), as they promoted defensive coordinator Mike Juscik to replace Randy Awrey who resigned after 5 seasons at the helm. Seems like a strange time for a coaching change...
This happened at Occidental last year, and things fell apart.  They ended up playing only three games.
But they also had had no support from the AD and the administration.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 27, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
They also brought someone in from the outside and took some time to do it. CUC promoted from within and did so promptly. I don't think the two are really comparable.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on August 27, 2018, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 27, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
They also brought someone in from the outside and took some time to do it. CUC promoted from within and did so promptly. I don't think the two are really comparable.
That is true.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on August 29, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on August 17, 2018, 01:46:56 PM
2018 NACC Preseason Poll
1. Lakeland (12), 123
2. Aurora (3), 105
3. Benedictine, 88
4. Eureka (1), 78
5. Wisconsin Lutheran, 66
6. Concordia Wisconsin, 44
7. Concordia Chicago, 39
8. Rockford, 33

EC joins the NACC after it's first ever NCAA postseason appearance.  This team lost some starters on defense, but still has anchors in DE Macae Skaggs, C Trevon Moore and returning S Tony Greenwood.  EC brings back a load of offensive firepower, including All-American running back Le'Anthony Reasnover, QB Drew Barth, and the entire receiving corps.   

Preseason polls are what they are--that said, this is not the program that NACC teams picked on 10-15 years ago, and should have a chip on its shoulder after being picked 4th.  Time to go out and prove it.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2018, 07:15:50 PM
They may have a chip on their shoulder but I think Eureka in fourth is the right place. I know the NACC isn't the best of conferences but the Red Devils won literally the worst conference in D3 last year. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 30, 2018, 08:32:45 AM
I concur with Pat here. For me I think they could've been picked maybe a spot higher but right now, they need to prove that they are contenders on the field this year. IMO I think it'll go.

1. Lakeland
2. Bendictine
3. Eureka
4. Aurora
5. WLC
6. CUW
7. CUC
8. Rockford
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on August 30, 2018, 12:03:58 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2018, 07:15:50 PM
They may have a chip on their shoulder but I think Eureka in fourth is the right place. I know the NACC isn't the best of conferences but the Red Devils won literally the worst conference in D3 last year.

Yeah, I understand the UMAC gets no respect and does have a few bad teams, but I think the top of the that conference is on par with top NACC teams.  It will be interesting to see how how we fit in.  I think on paper we're a clear second place team at worst with a real chance to challenge Lakeland.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 30, 2018, 01:06:48 PM
Quote from: ecreddevils on August 30, 2018, 12:03:58 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2018, 07:15:50 PM
They may have a chip on their shoulder but I think Eureka in fourth is the right place. I know the NACC isn't the best of conferences but the Red Devils won literally the worst conference in D3 last year.

Yeah, I understand the UMAC gets no respect and does have a few bad teams, but I think the top of the that conference is on par with top NACC teams.  It will be interesting to see how how we fit in.  I think on paper we're a clear second place team at worst with a real chance to challenge Lakeland.
That first conference game against Aurora will be a good measuring stick. I feel like with the returning starters they have, a lot of the preseason rankings are selling the Spartans short. (They would have beaten LU last year if not for some last minute Whitley heroics.)

As far as Lakeland is concerned, we certainly are capable of the top spot again, but it will all depend on guys stepping up and filling the holes - and especially someone stepping up to be a viable starting QB.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 30, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: ecreddevils on August 30, 2018, 12:03:58 PM
Yeah, I understand the UMAC gets no respect and does have a few bad teams, but I think the top of the that conference is on par with top NACC teams. 

Well, we'll find out.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 02, 2018, 11:18:10 AM
Week One scores:

Concordia Wisconsin 31
Finlandia 3

Eureka 49
Knox 24

Wisconsin Lutheran 30
Lake Forest 38

Aurora 7
St. Norbert 16

MacMurray 12
Rockford 35

Lakeland 26
Carroll 45

Beloit 10
Concordia Chicago 36

Benedictine 38
(ARV) Franklin 55

The Muskies did have a couple turnovers well in Carroll territory that they will rue, but it comes down to that completing barely a quarter of your passes will not cut it. Because of that (though not having Dezmon Eddie available didn't help matters either), they weren't able to string drives together and got hammered in time of possession, which led to the defense wearing down late. They definitely have some things to work on before Trine comes to town in 2 weeks.

A 4-4 week for the conference as a whole. Everyone except Lakeland will be back in action next week.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on September 04, 2018, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 02, 2018, 11:18:10 AM
Week One scores:


Eureka 49
Knox 24



Eureka ran over a team with 17 returning starters who beat them close at home last year.   The offense is as advertised, multiple scoring threats and a nationally prominent rusher in Reasonver.  The pleasant surprise was the defense. EC interior dominated the line of scrimmage and completely took Knox out of their game plan.

I don't know enough about the NACC to evaluate what some of these other losses mean, maybe we can't know.  My feeling is that EC will fit right in at the top this year and will be a very tough team to slow down.  Can't wait to see Aurora here.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on September 04, 2018, 02:57:00 PM
Quote from: ecreddevils on September 04, 2018, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 02, 2018, 11:18:10 AM
Week One scores:


Eureka 49
Knox 24



Eureka ran over a team with 17 returning starters who beat them close at home last year.   The offense is as advertised, multiple scoring threats and a nationally prominent rusher in Reasonver.  The pleasant surprise was the defense. EC interior dominated the line of scrimmage and completely took Knox out of their game plan.

I don't know enough about the NACC to evaluate what some of these other losses mean, maybe we can't know.  My feeling is that EC will fit right in at the top this year and will be a very tough team to slow down.  Can't wait to see Aurora here.

While Eureka may have dominated it's opening opponent, and keeping in mind you can only play who is on the schedule, lets also be mindful of the fact that Knox' record in this decade is a less than impressive 16-64 against mostly equally unimpressive competition. The last time they were over .500 was 2002! It might be prudent to wait a few games before turning the applause meter up to 10. 🤔
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on September 04, 2018, 03:01:35 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 02, 2018, 11:18:10 AM


Benedictine 38
(ARV) Franklin 55


Is BU ready for D2? 🙄
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2018, 07:53:52 PM
Quote from: AndOne on September 04, 2018, 03:01:35 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 02, 2018, 11:18:10 AM


Benedictine 38
(ARV) Franklin 55


Is BU ready for D2? 🙄

They'll probably be better when they give out 24 football scholarships.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on September 04, 2018, 09:36:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2018, 07:53:52 PM
Quote from: AndOne on September 04, 2018, 03:01:35 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 02, 2018, 11:18:10 AM


Benedictine 38
(ARV) Franklin 55


Is BU ready for D2? 🙄

They'll probably be better when they give out 24 football scholarships.

Maybe then they won't be afraid to resume playing NCC again? 🏈  😉
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on September 05, 2018, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: AndOne on September 04, 2018, 02:57:00 PM
Quote from: ecreddevils on September 04, 2018, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 02, 2018, 11:18:10 AM
Week One scores:


Eureka 49
Knox 24



Eureka ran over a team with 17 returning starters who beat them close at home last year.   The offense is as advertised, multiple scoring threats and a nationally prominent rusher in Reasonver.  The pleasant surprise was the defense. EC interior dominated the line of scrimmage and completely took Knox out of their game plan.

I don't know enough about the NACC to evaluate what some of these other losses mean, maybe we can't know.  My feeling is that EC will fit right in at the top this year and will be a very tough team to slow down.  Can't wait to see Aurora here.

While Eureka may have dominated it's opening opponent, and keeping in mind you can only play who is on the schedule, lets also be mindful of the fact that Knox' record in this decade is a less than impressive 16-64 against mostly equally unimpressive competition. The last time they were over .500 was 2002! It might be prudent to wait a few games before turning the applause meter up to 10. 🤔

I won't argue that. 

This is the most interesting year in the last 25 years of EC football because the program is at its apex right now under Kurt Barth.  EC has gone from doormat to an extremely well-run program that made its first ever NCAA playoff trip last year. This conference transition is happening at just the right time because it gives fans a barometer of how far the program has come, just how good it is right now, and where it might go in the future. 

With a one game sample size it certainly looks like making the playoffs (and maybe the new turf and stadium lights) has paid dividends in bringing in impact recruits, something that is difficult when you're scraping to win 2-3 games a year on the shoddy field in the pre-Barth era. 

We'll know a lot more after the Aurora game in a few weeks.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: UWO Titan 78 on September 05, 2018, 08:22:44 PM
My son and I visited Eureka this summer on our tour of potential schools for him. We liked Eureka a lot. I really think the program is headed in the right direction. I'm really interested to see how they match-up with the other NACC schools this year, as several are on his potential list. I do think moving to the NACC will help them. It doesn't look like they have ventured out here to the NW Suburbs a lot in the past for recruiting, but it looks like they are going to make that more of a priority. They are a bit behind some of the other NACC schools and others we visited in terms of facilities, but the right coach can sway recruits regardless.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2018, 12:19:49 AM
2018 way-too-early first impressions:

-Aurora looks like it has a similar build as past years: A solid defense with apparent senior leadership and an average offense prone to making the careless mistake in tight games. Since Ponx has taken over, it appears finding that playmaking QB (Ala a Michael Whitley, Austin Damaschke, Mike Marotta, etc.) still eludes the Spartans. It's only the first game and it was a decent St. Norbert defense on the opposite side, but it appears that Zimbleman is another in a long line of game managers, which isn't necessarily a bad thing if the offensive line and run game can gain some traction. However, I'd like to see Zimbleman take control of the offense going forward and have his teammates expecting to score on every drive rather than being afraid to make that costly mistake. He has the ability and just needs the confidence. Excited to see what they can get done against CCIW member Elmhurst.

-Benedictine is in rebuilding mode, new head coach, new QB, but the offense looked decent against Franklin (At least the passing game did). What concerns me is Franklin losing Chase Burton and Deontrez Alexander to graduation last year and still coming out and throwing 50+ on the board (300+ passing yards and 4 TDs through the air.) Maybe hearing that they will not get the NACC playoff bid regardless of their record has dimmed some of their motivation. Or maybe they already have one foot in D2. Maybe it's just the defense getting its bearings. Whichever it is, they're going to have to get it corrected fast if they want to play spoiler this year.

-Concordia Chicago is the most intriguing team to watch, in my opinion. They are young, very young, but they looked explosive on both offense and defense. Their roster is stacked with speedy weapons from both Florida and Texas, and Lance Moise gave us all a glimpse of what he is capable of with a 300+ yard performance that placed him on the D3Football.com Team of the Week. I would not be surprised to see them make that jump back to the top tier of the NACC this year.

-Concordia Wisconsin has Aaron Nixon back behind center and he played like he isn't going to take another snap for granted. Tenette is as explosive as he was his freshman year. This offense will go as far as those two can carry them. Hard to judge the defense based on Finlandia, but they were sharp in their assignments, allowing just 3 points. Will get a clearer picture of where this team is after week 3, when the Falcons take on Alma in the MIAA-NACC challenge.

-Eureka is that one unknown. I caught a little bit of their playoff game last year and they kept it tighter in the first half than I thought they would with an upper-echelon St. Thomas squad. Reasnover is a beast, no arguing that fact. The question will be do they have the talent in their offensive and defensive fronts to run and stop the run effectively against NACC opponents. Like most of you have already said, that Aurora game will answer more than a few questions about the NACC newcomers.

-Lakeland is primed to have a down-year. You don't just replace a Michael Whitley and run right through the NACC. I think the scheme of Lakeland's offense will have to rely more on a running game this season, but I think they have the backs to pull it off. Larry Rivers has first-team All NACC ability. The defense cannot rely on the offense putting up forty points a game anymore, though. They've been Lakeland's kryptonite for years and are going to need to figure it out this year in order to have any chance of staying atop the conference in 2018.

-Wisconsin Lutheran has won just one NACC title since the conference's inception in 2008 (And that title was split with both Lakeland and Benedictine; 2014.) They have a quarterback returning in Mathieson and it looks like he will be the focal point of the WLC offense. The WLC defense struggled against Lake Forest's passing game and wore down late against the LF run game. But WLC has been known to produce DE's worthy of the NACC Defensive Player of the Year Award and so let's see what adjustments are made against Lawrence Tech. A player to keep an eye on is Joe Styczynski, LB. A bit undersized but flies around the field.

-Rockford is turning back into the respectable football team it had once been prior to joining the NACC. They are not there just yet, but Lavar Johnson is a top 3 RB in the NACC and their mobile sophomore QB will give defenses a couple things to worry about. Defense took care of a subpar MacMurray offense. Don't know if they have the skilled guys in all the spots to finish in the top half of the conference, but there is some hope for this team if it catches a few breaks and stays healthy to shoot for .500.

Take all of this with a grain of salt, but these are the way-too-early impressions I was left with after week 1. The important thing is that we have the entire season in front of us, and I for one am excited to see how it all shakes out.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 06, 2018, 12:25:11 AM
I mentioned this in the podcast, but Moise left the field with help after that final carry. He came in for one more carry after having been out for a while -- I wonder if someone missed a call to go into the game and Moise had to go in unexpectedly.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2018, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 06, 2018, 12:25:11 AM
I mentioned this in the podcast, but Moise left the field with help after that final carry. He came in for one more carry after having been out for a while -- I wonder if someone missed a call to go into the game and Moise had to go in unexpectedly.

Looked like he was cramping up a bit from what I saw; hopefully it's not too serious. But yeah, I can't imagine him being sent back out there as the first choice, given the score at the time.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on September 06, 2018, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: UWO Titan 78 on September 05, 2018, 08:22:44 PM
My son and I visited Eureka this summer on our tour of potential schools for him. We liked Eureka a lot. I really think the program is headed in the right direction. I'm really interested to see how they match-up with the other NACC schools this year, as several are on his potential list. I do think moving to the NACC will help them. It doesn't look like they have ventured out here to the NW Suburbs a lot in the past for recruiting, but it looks like they are going to make that more of a priority. They are a bit behind some of the other NACC schools and others we visited in terms of facilities, but the right coach can sway recruits regardless.
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It's happening one piece at a time--new turf field, bleachers, lights. and now video highlight board.  Locker facilities aren't great, but winning overcomes that.  This year's roster looks like it's already benefited from that playoff appearance, lots of new threats and the best depth EC has ever had. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 06, 2018, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2018, 12:19:49 AM
2018 way-too-early first impressions:

-Lakeland is primed to have a down-year. You don't just replace a Michael Whitley and run right through the NACC. I think the scheme of Lakeland's offense will have to rely more on a running game this season, but I think they have the backs to pull it off. Larry Rivers has first-team All NACC ability. The defense cannot rely on the offense putting up forty points a game anymore, though. They've been Lakeland's kryptonite for years and are going to need to figure it out this year in order to have any chance of staying atop the conference in 2018.

Good point about the Lakeland D. They've allowed over 30 points a game each of the last two years, but for the most part our offense was still able to outscore our opponents. That isn't going to cut it this year.

Also, have a +1 for the thorough analysis :)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 09, 2018, 01:16:33 AM
Week Two scores:

Concordia Chicago 25 (1-1)
Olivet 52

Augsburg 27
Concordia Wisconsin 24 (1-1)

Elmhurst 21
Aurora 20 (0-2)

Lawrence Tech 30
Wisconsin Lutheran 22 (0-2)

Martin Luther 28
Rockford 24 (0-2)

Loras 39
Benedictine 20 (0-2)

Iowa Wesleyan 6
Eureka 38 (2-0)

I'm sure these results will strike fear into the dark hearts of those across the pond heading into the MIAA-NACC Challenge next week.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 11, 2018, 01:05:38 PM
Four losses by a combined 16 points.....that's brutal.

For WLC that is two blown second half leads to start the year. They should have beaten Tech but they let them stay in the game the entire time. At the same time I feel that they are a little better than where they were last year.

As for the NACC-MIAA Challenge Series......

I see

Eureka manhandling Finlandia
#17 Trine blasting Lakeland
Kalamazoo handling Rockford
Olivet beating Benedictine
Hope over Wisconsin Lutheran
Alma topping CUW
Adrian defeating Aurora
Albion crushing CUC

Realistic I see it going 1-7. Best case scenario? 4-4
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 11, 2018, 09:56:13 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 11, 2018, 01:05:38 PM
Four losses by a combined 16 points.....that's brutal.

For WLC that is two blown second half leads to start the year. They should have beaten Tech but they let them stay in the game the entire time. At the same time I feel that they are a little better than where they were last year.

As for the NACC-MIAA Challenge Series......

I see

Eureka manhandling Finlandia
#17 Trine blasting Lakeland
Kalamazoo handling Rockford
Olivet beating Benedictine
Hope over Wisconsin Lutheran
Alma topping CUW
Adrian defeating Aurora
Albion crushing CUC

Realistic I see it going 1-7. Best case scenario? 4-4

I generally agree with these picks. I'm curious which three NACC teams whom you see as possibly having an outside chance of a victory. Maybe Benedictine, CUW, and . . . Rockford? 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 14, 2018, 10:38:18 AM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 11, 2018, 09:56:13 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 11, 2018, 01:05:38 PM
Four losses by a combined 16 points.....that's brutal.

For WLC that is two blown second half leads to start the year. They should have beaten Tech but they let them stay in the game the entire time. At the same time I feel that they are a little better than where they were last year.

As for the NACC-MIAA Challenge Series......

I see

Eureka manhandling Finlandia
#17 Trine blasting Lakeland
Kalamazoo handling Rockford
Olivet beating Benedictine
Hope over Wisconsin Lutheran
Alma topping CUW
Adrian defeating Aurora
Albion crushing CUC

Realistic I see it going 1-7. Best case scenario? 4-4

I generally agree with these picks. I'm curious which three NACC teams whom you see as possibly having an outside chance of a victory. Maybe Benedictine, CUW, and . . . Rockford? 


Lock: Eureka

Maybe's: CUW, BenU, Aurora or Rockford.

Kinda hard to find any W's elsewhere.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 15, 2018, 03:47:49 PM
I'm not sure what the single game rushing records are for Albion and Concordia, but five minutes into the second half Doug Freeman for Albion has 178 yards and Lance Moise for Concordia has 198 yards.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 15, 2018, 03:53:29 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 15, 2018, 03:47:49 PM
I'm not sure what the single game rushing records are for Albion and Concordia, but five minutes into the second half Doug Freeman for Albion has 178 yards and Lance Moise for Concordia has 198 yards.

Don't know for CUC but Moise had 310 yards Week 1 vs. Beloit.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 15, 2018, 03:57:17 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 15, 2018, 03:53:29 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 15, 2018, 03:47:49 PM
I'm not sure what the single game rushing records are for Albion and Concordia, but five minutes into the second half Doug Freeman for Albion has 178 yards and Lance Moise for Concordia has 198 yards.

Don't know for CUC but Moise had 310 yards Week 1 vs. Beloit.
Due to the miracle of the internet, I discovered Concordia's record is 355 yards by Andrew Maddox in 2012.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: sac on September 16, 2018, 11:50:12 AM
Albion's is 306 yards by Clinton Orr in 2009 vs Alma

I think its interesting you mentioned Albion's Freeman with 198 early 2nd half and yet he was out-rushed by his teammate (McCoy) in the game 248 - 203 :)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 16, 2018, 02:51:40 PM
Quote from: sac on September 16, 2018, 11:50:12 AM
Albion's is 306 yards by Clinton Orr in 2009 vs Alma

I think its interesting you mentioned Albion's Freeman with 198 early 2nd half and yet he was out-rushed by his teammate (McCoy) in the game 248 - 203 :)

Concordia's defensive line is pretty young and not all that large weight-wise. Freeman is a quality back, and by the time the second half rolled around CUC's d-line was sufficiently softened up for McCoy to run through people and then drag more people. He was impressive. 

Crazy that FOUR running backs in the game each individually averaged over 10.2 yards per attempt with a minimum of nine carries. I thought that CUC's average yards-per-carry wasn't too shabby at 6.8 yards; Albion's was 10.6!

Also, the box score stats (248) and Albion's recap numbers (158) don't agree on McCoy's total yardage, but the box score numbers have to be the genuine numbers as otherwise Albion's total rushing yards wouldn't add up to their stellar 560.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gestekoe on September 18, 2018, 09:17:49 AM
Though CUC lost, it's nice to see them scoring points every week (so far at least).  Maybe they will surprise some teams and score enough to win a few in NACC play.  It's been mentioned their Defensive line is young, so hopefully they can improve as the season progresses.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 19, 2018, 11:32:40 AM
Week Three scores:

Finlandia 12
Eureka 34 (3-0)

Alma 15
Concordia Wisconsin 26 (2-1)

Hope 53
Wisconsin Lutheran 12 (0-3)

#17 Trine 56
Lakeland 6 (0-2)

Olivet 42
Benedictine 16 (0-3)

Albion 57
Concordia Chicago 42 (1-2)

Kalamazoo 23
Rockford 7 (0-3)

Adrian 27
Aurora 5 (0-3)

With Aurora and Benedictine both starting 0-3, and Lakeland likely to join them after they travel to Platteville on Saturday, the NACC seems like it will be even more wide open than people thought before the season. I know everyone starts over at 0-0 come the 29th, but at this point, if Eureka beats the Spartans that day, I think the Red Devils have to be considered the favorites.

As far as Lakeland goes, we knew there would be some dropoff in QB play after Whitley graduated, but if the Muskies continue their stunning inability to complete a pass - O'Neill and Nunnery have combined for a 24 percent clip, the second-lowest in all of Division III through three weeks - it will be a long season up in rural Sheboygan County.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 20, 2018, 03:55:37 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 19, 2018, 11:32:40 AM
Week Three scores:

Finlandia 12
Eureka 34 (3-0)

Alma 15
Concordia Wisconsin 26 (2-1)

Hope 53
Wisconsin Lutheran 12 (0-3)

#17 Trine 56
Lakeland 6 (0-2)

Olivet 42
Benedictine 16 (0-3)

Albion 57
Concordia Chicago 42 (1-2)

Kalamazoo 23
Rockford 7 (0-3)

Adrian 27
Aurora 5 (0-3)

With Aurora and Benedictine both starting 0-3, and Lakeland likely to join them after they travel to Platteville on Saturday, the NACC seems like it will be even more wide open than people thought before the season. I know everyone starts over at 0-0 come the 29th, but at this point, if Eureka beats the Spartans that day, I think the Red Devils have to be considered the favorites.

As far as Lakeland goes, we knew there would be some dropoff in QB play after Whitley graduated, but if the Muskies continue their stunning inability to complete a pass - O'Neill and Nunnery have combined for a 24 percent clip, the second-lowest in all of Division III through three weeks - it will be a long season up in rural Sheboygan County.

If we want a decent draw for the NACC AQ bid, Eureka running the table is our best bet. I don't see it happening, but no other NACC team has made that "We're the team to beat" statement thus far. Super disappointing non-conference performances from our squads (CUW & Eureka excluded).

And thanks for the +  :) I'll throw a +1 your way for the consistent score updates that I check out on here every weekend. (Not really sure how the + thing works, hope typing it here gives it to you).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 20, 2018, 11:07:35 AM
Rhythm21, if you want to give Ryan a +1, you need to go to his post and hit the [applaud] link right below his karma rating in the upper left corner of the post.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2018, 11:21:19 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 20, 2018, 11:07:35 AM
Rhythm21, if you want to give Ryan a +1, you need to go to his post and hit the [applaud] link right below his karma rating in the upper left corner of the post.

He doesn't have that functionality yet -- it's for starters (200 posts) and above.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 20, 2018, 11:49:03 AM
Yeah ... duh! on me for not noticing that.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 20, 2018, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 20, 2018, 03:55:37 AM
If we want a decent draw for the NACC AQ bid, Eureka running the table is our best bet. I don't see it happening, but no other NACC team has made that "We're the team to beat" statement thus far. Super disappointing non-conference performances from our squads (CUW & Eureka excluded).

With Eureka's strength of schedule, would even going 10-0 be enough to get them a "decent" draw (which I'm reading as "not having to play the WIAC or CCIW champion or Mount Union in the first round")?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 21, 2018, 10:10:44 AM
It would be hard to avoid all three.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 22, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 23, 2018, 06:46:11 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 22, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3

Well this is an interesting development.  I'd be curious on your take as to why the switch back to d3. My totally out-from-left-field take is that the former president really wanted the move to d2 but not all the trustees were on board, but who knows.
In any case I am very interested in a book or paper that is out there which deals with the financial effects of college athletics on the schools; the effects on enrollment, income, expenses, etc., (because I would guess that played a part in Benedictine's moves as well). Any suggestions?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 23, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 23, 2018, 06:46:11 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 22, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3

Well this is an interesting development.  I'd be curious on your take as to why the switch back to d3. My totally out-from-left-field take is that the former president really wanted the move to d2 but not all the trustees were on board, but who knows.
In any case I am very interested in a book or paper that is out there which deals with the financial effects of college athletics on the schools; the effects on enrollment, income, expenses, etc., (because I would guess that played a part in Benedictine's moves as well). Any suggestions?

I am weighing in here on two aspects:

First, agree with you RFMichigan.  One might speculate (and it would be a legitimate consideration) that perhaps they realized that they would quite possibly get killed in DII, although as Pat pointed out, that might not necessarily be the case once they started handing out the scholarships and having the opportunity to recruit players with better talent to be in DII.  On the other hand, I personally think it was probably more due to exactly what you speculated on i.e. the now former President wanting the move more than the other trustees (although that would beg the question as to why they voted for the move in the first place. Did they feel pressured into it OR was it one of those, gut feeling "change of mind" incidents such as when head coaches have accepted an offer from another school, but then change their mind the next day or two to stay at their current schools.  As you mentioned, it would be most interesting to hear the real truth about why this decision was made.  Also, I am curious as to why the former president left so abruptly last month.  Does anyone know any further information?

Second, and I am late here on this one-although perhaps not since Eureka and all our MIAA teams had their "bye" weekends yesterday.  I'll try to make this [somewhat short ::) ;D :)]  We all know that Finlandia is a team/program that is, unfortunately, still in the building stages.  I do believe (am confident and hopefull] they will improve in time.  That said, here is my question, which is sort of a "combination" question and question for the sake of discussion.  Finlandia got crushed by Concordia-Wis, the latter which is not a very good team IMO as Hope smashed them in the last game of the season last year, although it does appear that Concordia-Wis is somewhat better this year.  So then Concorida-Wis beats Alma (although not by much), the latter which is in a rebuilding mode (again), not a great team, although I believe the will give our MIAA teams a good challenge in our league games (in other words, no one should take them lightly.)  Then Eureka comes in and beats Finlandia, but not by, what I would call, a crushing score.  By that I mean if Concordia creams Finlandia by as much as they did, where does that put Eureka so far, your opinions?

I realize several have opined their thoughts on Eureka earlier on this board.  Personally, I believe they are a good team and have an excellent chance of winning your league title in their first year in the league this fall.  They might even "run the table" as Ryan Stoppable suggested.  I think that is possible, although still will be a tough challenge.  Anyway, it is still early, I know, however, I was just curious as to your thoughts for the sake of discussion and, at least, for this present time, as Eureka is 3-0. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
I don't think we can play comparative scoring margin when Finlandia is on the field.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 23, 2018, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
I don't think we can play comparative scoring margin when Finlandia is on the field.
CUW beat Finlandia 31-3, Eureka beat them 34-12. I don't think any conclusions can be drawn from that.

Week Four score:

Lakeland 12 (0-3)
UW-Platteville 49

The Muskies offense is having a hard time staying on the field this season with their inability to complete passes - 10 for 37 in that game. And now, there's no more time to figure it out.

In my opinion, the non-conference season has asked plenty of questions across the league; next week, we should get some answers as the teams who have gotten off to the best starts (relatively speaking - the NACC did go 7-14 in non-conference play with 2 of the wins at Finlandia's expense) face two of the projected contenders who are each seeking their first win.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 23, 2018, 09:34:55 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on September 23, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 23, 2018, 06:46:11 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 22, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3

Well this is an interesting development.  I'd be curious on your take as to why the switch back to d3. My totally out-from-left-field take is that the former president really wanted the move to d2 but not all the trustees were on board, but who knows.
In any case I am very interested in a book or paper that is out there which deals with the financial effects of college athletics on the schools; the effects on enrollment, income, expenses, etc., (because I would guess that played a part in Benedictine's moves as well). Any suggestions?

I am weighing in here on two aspects:

First, agree with you RFMichigan.  One might speculate (and it would be a legitimate consideration) that perhaps they realized that they would quite possibly get killed in DII, although as Pat pointed out, that might not necessarily be the case once they started handing out the scholarships and having the opportunity to recruit players with better talent to be in DII.  On the other hand, I personally think it was probably more due to exactly what you speculated on i.e. the now former President wanting the move more than the other trustees (although that would beg the question as to why they voted for the move in the first place. Did they feel pressured into it OR was it one of those, gut feeling "change of mind" incidents such as when head coaches have accepted an offer from another school, but then change their mind the next day or two to stay at their current schools.  As you mentioned, it would be most interesting to hear the real truth about why this decision was made.  Also, I am curious as to why the former president left so abruptly last month.  Does anyone know any further information?

Second, and I am late here on this one-although perhaps not since Eureka and all our MIAA teams had their "bye" weekends yesterday.  I'll try to make this [somewhat short ::) ;D :)]  We all know that Finlandia is a team/program that is, unfortunately, still in the building stages.  I do believe (am confident and hopefull] they will improve in time.  That said, here is my question, which is sort of a "combination" question and question for the sake of discussion.  Finlandia got crushed by Concordia-Wis, the latter which is not a very good team IMO as Hope smashed them in the last game of the season last year, although it does appear that Concordia-Wis is somewhat better this year.  So then Concorida-Wis beats Alma (although not by much), the latter which is in a rebuilding mode (again), not a great team, although I believe the will give our MIAA teams a good challenge in our league games (in other words, no one should take them lightly.)  Then Eureka comes in and beats Finlandia, but not by, what I would call, a crushing score.  By that I mean if Concordia creams Finlandia by as much as they did, where does that put Eureka so far, your opinions?

I realize several have opined their thoughts on Eureka earlier on this board.  Personally, I believe they are a good team and have an excellent chance of winning your league title in their first year in the league this fall.  They might even "run the table" as Ryan Stoppable suggested.  I think that is possible, although still will be a tough challenge.  Anyway, it is still early, I know, however, I was just curious as to your thoughts for the sake of discussion and, at least, for this present time, as Eureka is 3-0. 
When it's time to pick bowl winners in those end-of-the-season bowl challenges and whatnot the first thing I usually take into consideration is the two teams' conference membership, and I think this notion applies here as well. In this case the operative term would be "NACC" as it's just not a very strong conference for football. (One of the weakest in the nation from what I'm told.) Eureka could well come in and win it in their first year, especially as there's not a clearly dominant team in this conference (comparatively speaking ) as there is occasionally.

Concordia - Wis. has a veteran QB and that probably goes a long way in this conference, but I'm not sure yet if they're the cream of the rest of the NACC crop. I mean, the NACC teams only beat six teams in their composite non-conference schedule and those six teams only have a total of four wins themselves (and one of those wins was against another of those six teams.) To figure relative strengths of NACC teams is pretty tough at this point.

Good luck to your Flying Dutchmen. I hope (no pun intended) to catch them in a MIAA conference game this year.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 23, 2018, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 23, 2018, 06:46:11 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 22, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3

Well this is an interesting development.  I'd be curious on your take as to why the switch back to d3. My totally out-from-left-field take is that the former president really wanted the move to d2 but not all the trustees were on board, but who knows.
In any case I am very interested in a book or paper that is out there which deals with the financial effects of college athletics on the schools; the effects on enrollment, income, expenses, etc., (because I would guess that played a part in Benedictine's moves as well). Any suggestions?

I've said it on a few boards already, but it bears repeating. First off, I can't share a lot that I have gathered as of right now, but there will be more in the future.

However, the president's departure isn't the cut and dry reason for this decision. There is a lot more involved for starters.

As for your second part, I have learned there was a solid plan in place at BU and it was working well. It doesn't sound like the plan or BU's prep work was the cause here. We may hear that from another DIII to DII school, but I don't think that will be the reasoning from BU when that report becomes more public.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 23, 2018, 11:48:42 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
I don't think we can play comparative scoring margin when Finlandia is on the field.

Sure we can, Pat.  It's just for discussion! ;)  You know as well as I do that anything goes with Finlandia this year, and it is not going to be that good. ::)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 24, 2018, 12:08:51 AM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 23, 2018, 09:34:55 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on September 23, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 23, 2018, 06:46:11 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 22, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3

Well this is an interesting development.  I'd be curious on your take as to why the switch back to d3. My totally out-from-left-field take is that the former president really wanted the move to d2 but not all the trustees were on board, but who knows.
In any case I am very interested in a book or paper that is out there which deals with the financial effects of college athletics on the schools; the effects on enrollment, income, expenses, etc., (because I would guess that played a part in Benedictine's moves as well). Any suggestions?

I am weighing in here on two aspects:

First, agree with you RFMichigan.  One might speculate (and it would be a legitimate consideration) that perhaps they realized that they would quite possibly get killed in DII, although as Pat pointed out, that might not necessarily be the case once they started handing out the scholarships and having the opportunity to recruit players with better talent to be in DII.  On the other hand, I personally think it was probably more due to exactly what you speculated on i.e. the now former President wanting the move more than the other trustees (although that would beg the question as to why they voted for the move in the first place. Did they feel pressured into it OR was it one of those, gut feeling "change of mind" incidents such as when head coaches have accepted an offer from another school, but then change their mind the next day or two to stay at their current schools.  As you mentioned, it would be most interesting to hear the real truth about why this decision was made.  Also, I am curious as to why the former president left so abruptly last month.  Does anyone know any further information?

Second, and I am late here on this one-although perhaps not since Eureka and all our MIAA teams had their "bye" weekends yesterday.  I'll try to make this [somewhat short ::) ;D :)]  We all know that Finlandia is a team/program that is, unfortunately, still in the building stages.  I do believe (am confident and hopefull] they will improve in time.  That said, here is my question, which is sort of a "combination" question and question for the sake of discussion.  Finlandia got crushed by Concordia-Wis, the latter which is not a very good team IMO as Hope smashed them in the last game of the season last year, although it does appear that Concordia-Wis is somewhat better this year.  So then Concorida-Wis beats Alma (although not by much), the latter which is in a rebuilding mode (again), not a great team, although I believe the will give our MIAA teams a good challenge in our league games (in other words, no one should take them lightly.)  Then Eureka comes in and beats Finlandia, but not by, what I would call, a crushing score.  By that I mean if Concordia creams Finlandia by as much as they did, where does that put Eureka so far, your opinions?

I realize several have opined their thoughts on Eureka earlier on this board.  Personally, I believe they are a good team and have an excellent chance of winning your league title in their first year in the league this fall.  They might even "run the table" as Ryan Stoppable suggested.  I think that is possible, although still will be a tough challenge.  Anyway, it is still early, I know, however, I was just curious as to your thoughts for the sake of discussion and, at least, for this present time, as Eureka is 3-0. 
When it's time to pick bowl winners in those end-of-the-season bowl challenges and whatnot the first thing I usually take into consideration is the two teams' conference membership, and I think this notion applies here as well. In this case the operative term would be "NACC" as it's just not a very strong conference for football. (One of the weakest in the nation from what I'm told.) Eureka could well come in and win it in their first year, especially as there's not a clearly dominant team in this conference (comparatively speaking ) as there is occasionally.

Concordia - Wis. has a veteran QB and that probably goes a long way in this conference, but I'm not sure yet if they're the cream of the rest of the NACC crop. I mean, the NACC teams only beat six teams in their composite non-conference schedule and those six teams only have a total of four wins themselves (and one of those wins was against another of those six teams.) To figure relative strengths of NACC teams is pretty tough at this point.

Good luck to your Flying Dutchmen. I hope (no pun intended) to catch them in a MIAA conference game this year.
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 23, 2018, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
I don't think we can play comparative scoring margin when Finlandia is on the field.
CUW beat Finlandia 31-3, Eureka beat them 34-12. I don't think any conclusions can be drawn from that.

Week Four score:

Lakeland 12 (0-3)
UW-Platteville 49

The Muskies offense is having a hard time staying on the field this season with their inability to complete passes - 10 for 37 in that game. And now, there's no more time to figure it out.

In my opinion, the non-conference season has asked plenty of questions across the league; next week, we should get some answers as the teams who have gotten off to the best starts (relatively speaking - the NACC did go 7-14 in non-conference play with 2 of the wins at Finlandia's expense) face two of the projected contenders who are each seeking their first win.

While we all know that comparisons like this are not the true measure and rather just impressions/speculative opinions.  That said, I still believe a comparison to some degree can be made in some of these types of situations.  Obviously, I have not seen either Eureka or Concordia-Wis this year or past year in person (although I did see the latter when they played us at home two seasons ago, yet obviously that can't even be considered here).  But from what I've read/seen about Eureka and what I saw from Concordia at their last game last year, I just do not think Concordia is a very good team, great Sr. QB they have or not (no disrespect to them, but rather just my own opinion).  In reviewing everyone's answers here, you are probably right as the difference in score was not much 31-3 versus 32-12 does not make much of a comparison.  I realize that many people on these boards are not fans of this type of comparison, however, I do believe at times such can be made.  Perhaps this is just not one of them. :)  Anyway, I just posed the question because a) for some discussion and b) I was interested in your opinions and those of you who responded have now told me. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 24, 2018, 12:10:33 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 23, 2018, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 23, 2018, 06:46:11 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 22, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
I on case no one saw the tweets or the front page: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2018/09/benedictine-to-return-to-d3

Well this is an interesting development.  I'd be curious on your take as to why the switch back to d3. My totally out-from-left-field take is that the former president really wanted the move to d2 but not all the trustees were on board, but who knows.
In any case I am very interested in a book or paper that is out there which deals with the financial effects of college athletics on the schools; the effects on enrollment, income, expenses, etc., (because I would guess that played a part in Benedictine's moves as well). Any suggestions?

I've said it on a few boards already, but it bears repeating. First off, I can't share a lot that I have gathered as of right now, but there will be more in the future.

However, the president's departure isn't the cut and dry reason for this decision. There is a lot more involved for starters.

As for your second part, I have learned there was a solid plan in place at BU and it was working well. It doesn't sound like the plan or BU's prep work was the cause here. We may hear that from another DIII to DII school, but I don't think that will be the reasoning from BU when that report becomes more public.

Thanks for what you have been able to share for now, Dave.   
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on September 24, 2018, 07:00:27 PM
RFMichigan and formerd3db,

See the NACC basketball page.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 24, 2018, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: AndOne on September 24, 2018, 07:00:27 PM
RFMichigan and formerd3db,

See the NACC basketball page.

AndOne - Thank you for the heads-up. Very interesting. I'm fascinated by the economics of college athletics and admissions.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 30, 2018, 12:38:16 AM
Week Five scores:

Concordia Wisconsin 48 (1-0, 3-1)
Benedictine 40 (0-1, 0-4)

Rockford 20 (0-1, 1-3)
Wisconsin Lutheran 26 (OT) (1-0, 1-3)

Concordia Chicago 28 (0-1, 1-3)
Lakeland 61 (1-0, 1-3)

Aurora 28 (0-1, 0-4)
Eureka 31 (1-0, 4-0)

Now there can be no denying it - having topped one of the preseason favorites, the Red Devils are a serious threat to win their second different conference in as many years. That's certainly not to say other teams won't also try to get involved - CUW has quietly gotten off to a 3-1 start, and I was surprised that they beat Benedictine, and even a team like Aurora isn't necessarily out of it despite the early conference loss.

Lakeland finally figured out how to complete a pass - both with O'Neill, who easily looked the best he has all season, and even after turning to the freshman Broder due to injury - and that means the Muskies ought to be right in the mix as well. For CUC, Moise is every bit as good as advertised (between him and Reasnover, we have some quality backs in this conference!), but no RB can carry a team's entire offensive load by himself.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on October 01, 2018, 01:17:40 PM
Yes, Ryan, I was going to ask the same thing. ;D Do others now think that Eureka is "the real deal" or is it still too early to assess that? ;) 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 06, 2018, 09:36:18 PM
Week Six scores:

Lakeland 0 (1-1, 1-4)
Concordia Wisconsin 17 (2-0, 4-1)

Benedictine 27 (1-1, 1-4)
Rockford 20 (0-2, 1-4)

Aurora 35 (1-1, 1-4)
Concordia Chicago 30 (0-2, 1-4)

Wisconsin Lutheran 35 (1-1, 1-4)
Eureka 54 (2-0, 5-0)

A national nightmare has begun, as the Cheese Bowl will be staying in Mequon after the Falcons pick up their first win in the series since 2013. The CUW defense deserves plenty of credit, making a number of big plays in key areas of the field to deal Lakeland only its second shutout ever in NACC play.

Show me someone who before the season had Eureka and the Falcons as the only unbeatens after 2 weeks of conference play, and I'll show you a liar. :P So now the question is, will their meeting in Mequon on the 27th decide the conference title, or will there be some more curveballs to be had on the way?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gestekoe on October 06, 2018, 11:05:33 PM
Does anyone know the status of Lance Moise from CUC?  I heard he was carted off the field and couldn't feel anything.  Coming into today he was leading all D-III in rushing yards.

Hoping he's ok.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 07, 2018, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: Gestekoe on October 06, 2018, 11:05:33 PM
Does anyone know the status of Lance Moise from CUC?  I heard he was carted off the field and couldn't feel anything.  Coming into today he was leading all D-III in rushing yards.

Hoping he's ok.
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on October 06, 2018, 09:36:18 PM
Week Six scores:

Lakeland 0 (1-1, 1-4)
Concordia Wisconsin 17 (2-0, 4-1)

Benedictine 27 (1-1, 1-4)
Rockford 20 (0-2, 1-4)

Aurora 35 (1-1, 1-4)
Concordia Chicago 30 (0-2, 1-4)

Wisconsin Lutheran 35 (1-1, 1-4)
Eureka 54 (2-0, 5-0)

A national nightmare has begun, as the Cheese Bowl will be staying in Mequon after the Falcons pick up their first win in the series since 2013. The CUW defense deserves plenty of credit, making a number of big plays in key areas of the field to deal Lakeland only its second shutout ever in NACC play.

Show me someone who before the season had Eureka and the Falcons as the only unbeatens after 2 weeks of conference play, and I'll show you a liar. :P So now the question is, will their meeting in Mequon on the 27th decide the conference title, or will there be some more curveballs to be had on the way?

I think I'm a believer in CUW and I do think that their meeting with Eureka will most likely be for the conference championship but there seems to be a lot of parity based on the scores from yesterday.

Hadn't heard about Moise. Hope and pray things are okay with him.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 09, 2018, 02:10:55 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on October 07, 2018, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: Gestekoe on October 06, 2018, 11:05:33 PM
Does anyone know the status of Lance Moise from CUC?  I heard he was carted off the field and couldn't feel anything.  Coming into today he was leading all D-III in rushing yards.

Hoping he's ok.
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on October 06, 2018, 09:36:18 PM
Week Six scores:

Lakeland 0 (1-1, 1-4)
Concordia Wisconsin 17 (2-0, 4-1)

Benedictine 27 (1-1, 1-4)
Rockford 20 (0-2, 1-4)

Aurora 35 (1-1, 1-4)
Concordia Chicago 30 (0-2, 1-4)

Wisconsin Lutheran 35 (1-1, 1-4)
Eureka 54 (2-0, 5-0)

A national nightmare has begun, as the Cheese Bowl will be staying in Mequon after the Falcons pick up their first win in the series since 2013. The CUW defense deserves plenty of credit, making a number of big plays in key areas of the field to deal Lakeland only its second shutout ever in NACC play.

Show me someone who before the season had Eureka and the Falcons as the only unbeatens after 2 weeks of conference play, and I'll show you a liar. :P So now the question is, will their meeting in Mequon on the 27th decide the conference title, or will there be some more curveballs to be had on the way?

I think I'm a believer in CUW and I do think that their meeting with Eureka will most likely be for the conference championship but there seems to be a lot of parity based on the scores from yesterday.

Hadn't heard about Moise. Hope and pray things are okay with him.

EC still has to play BU (Who I think is better than their record states) before their matchup with CUW. I think the Eagles can throw a big wrench (despite being ineligible for the title) into the title chase.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 14, 2018, 11:06:46 PM
Week Seven scores:

Concordia Wisconsin 23 (3-0, 5-1)
Aurora 20 (1-2, 1-5)

Eureka 44 (3-0, 6-0)
Concordia Chicago 14 (0-3, 1-5)

Wisconsin Lutheran 31 (1-2, 1-5)
Benedictine 40 (2-1, 2-4)

Rockford 37 (1-2, 2-4)
Lakeland 20 (1-2, 1-5)

We don't yet know who will go to the playoffs from our conference, but we know who won't be - both Kickoff's choice as the NACC champion (Aurora) and the coaches' pick (Lakeland) picked up their second conference losses on Saturday. And the NACC has never had a champion with more than one loss in conference play.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 16, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
Good job for Rockford for finally getting a nice win against Lakeland. I believe that is their first win against Lakeland ever (0-10 previously).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on October 16, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
Good job for Rockford for finally getting a nice win against Lakeland. I believe that is their first win against Lakeland ever (0-10 previously).

On the podcast I referred to it as the biggest victory in the history of the Rockford program:
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2018/10/15/around-the-nation-podcast-212-taking-down-the-big-dog/
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on October 19, 2018, 11:37:47 PM
Late to the party, but I've been trying to watch the Rockford over Lakeland game on their Stretch Portal network all week. Thought there was a typo on the score updates last week. However, I keep getting an error that won't allow playback and have this sneaking suspicion that Lakeland deliberately corrupted the file  ;) Also, I'll be the first to admit that at the start of the season, I had Eureka finishing at 6-4/5-5. I have the feeling that the CUW and Eureka game will decide who gets the AQ, as every other team (Not named Benedictine) already has 2 conference losses to their names. Side Note: In the year of the RB in the NACC, Aaron Nixon is playing like a man possessed. Let me give you the first 4 players locked into the 2018 All-NACC 1st Team- QB Aaron Nixon (CUW); RB Lance Moise (CUC); RB LeAnthony Reasnover (Eureka); WR Josh Sanders (CUW).

Now for the really upsetting part (At least for me)... Aurora is 1-5 after being picked to finish near the top of the conference... and are below Rockford in the standings. This is maybe the first time since the NACC's inaugural 2008 season that I am seriously concerned about my Spartans going up against Rockford. I personally would like to see AU use that talented freshman from Louisiana a little bit more at QB (Halen Miller.) Up until now, he's been mostly relegated to a few Wildcat plays (Just 1 rush for 5 yards and a tuddy on the year) but it's pretty clear to me that Zimbleman is not turning that corner we talked about early in the season. With 5 losses on the season already, and 2 in conference play, I'd be surprised if Ponx doesn't get Miller a few extra series to see what he can do against Rockford. Let's be clear, Zimbleman is not the only person to blame for the 1-5 start. Those 1-score losses to Elmhurst, Eureka & CUW are heartbreaking and no single play or player is to blame. But it is in those tight situations where you need to be able to rely on your QB to lead the team down the field and win the game. Zimbleman just hasn't been able to accomplish that with the ball in his hands thus far this season (Mirabelli missing a couple late kicks hasn't helped.) Aurora seems to be lacking in urgency for some reason this year. Sorry for venting, it's just been hard to watch. Anyway, here's hoping AU can keep the streak against Rockford going this weekend and that Zimbleman can prove me wrong.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on October 21, 2018, 07:02:11 AM
Eureka 50
Benedictine 20

Reasnover rushes for 282 and 5 tds.

Dominant performance by the Red Devils as they continue to earn the respect they deserve in the NACC.  Reasnover is a truly great back at the D-III level, does it every week when you know he's getting the ball.  This is a team clicking on all cylinders who will be very, very difficult to beat down the stretch.

Kurt Barth deserves national Coach of the Year honors.   He's taken a program that had 15 straight losing seasons before his arrival to a playoff appearance and now possible undefeated second playoff berth.

Great write-up at D3F.com if you haven't seen it:  http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 22, 2018, 10:09:27 PM
Week Eight scores:

Benedictine 20 (2-2, 2-5)
Eureka 50 (4-0, 7-0)

Concordia Chicago 34 (0-4, 1-6)
Concordia Wisconsin 45 (4-0, 6-1)

Aurora 25 (2-2, 2-5)
Rockford 7 (1-3, 2-5)

Lakeland 38 (2-2, 2-5)
Wisconsin Lutheran 12 (1-3, 1-6)

The time is upon us. The game that will decide the NACC championship - but who would have thought it would be this one? Some new blood on top this year, with a Eureka team who has handled a change of conference far better than most expected, while CUW seemingly came out of nowhere to defy all preseason predictions. The winner will require just one more win in their final two games to lock up the NACC's playoff berth. Can the Red Devils keep rolling towards a second undefeated regular season in their long program history, or will the Falcons find a way one more time?

As for the NACC's "old guard," it looks like they'll be left to dispute third place. Lakeland did their part in that fight by overwhelming WLC on the ground as Rivers, Eddie and Nunnery all hit the 100 yard mark. Though LU, AU, and BU all have to play each other yet, so there's plenty to be decided there as well.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on October 24, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
Hypothetically, if Eureka wins and then beats Lakeland and Rockford, I could see them getting matched up with the AQ from the CCIW, which is still up for grabs (Ill Wesleyan at the top.) If CUW wins out, it's more than likely going to be a cold journey to Whitewater. I'm jumping on the Eureka bandwagon. I don't know much about the Red Devils, aside from that Reasnover is the truth. Do they have the size on the offensive and defensive lines to hang with a CCIW team? And their secondary looks like it has the length to compete with Healy and IWU's WR core, but their LB measurements seem a bit undersized (though that hasn't seemed to hinder them at all this year.) Either way, excited to see how they handle Nixon, Sanders & Tennette this Saturday. Should be a great game.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on October 24, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on October 24, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
Hypothetically, if Eureka wins and then beats Lakeland and Rockford, I could see them getting matched up with the AQ from the CCIW, which is still up for grabs (Ill Wesleyan at the top.) If CUW wins out, it's more than likely going to be a cold journey to Whitewater. I'm jumping on the Eureka bandwagon. I don't know much about the Red Devils, aside from that Reasnover is the truth. Do they have the size on the offensive and defensive lines to hang with a CCIW team? And their secondary looks like it has the length to compete with Healy and IWU's WR core, but their LB measurements seem a bit undersized (though that hasn't seemed to hinder them at all this year.) Either way, excited to see how they handle Nixon, Sanders & Tennette this Saturday. Should be a great game.

I predict the EC offense will steamroll a CUW team that gave up 34 to CUC last week.  They will not shut down Reasnover.

Now, it will be interesting to see where EC gets paired when (ok, if) they go 10-0.

My opinion as a fan is that they should get a CCIW matchup and not get sent to one of the U-Dubs or Saints.  If EC gets IWU (this is a 35 minute road trip and game that makes a ton of sense if you want a huge crowd) we will have a ballgame.  I could also see North Central as a possibility.  Strength of schedule (235 out of 238) and conference reputation does not help, but 10-0 is 10-0.  This is an EC team that showed well at St. Thomas last year and deserves to test their mettle against a geographically proximate foe out of the CCIW. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 24, 2018, 02:57:53 PM
I could totally get on board with Eureka as a 7 or a 6 seed depending on who else is in the bracket.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on October 26, 2018, 12:31:54 AM
Quote from: ecreddevils on October 24, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on October 24, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
Hypothetically, if Eureka wins and then beats Lakeland and Rockford, I could see them getting matched up with the AQ from the CCIW, which is still up for grabs (Ill Wesleyan at the top.) If CUW wins out, it's more than likely going to be a cold journey to Whitewater. I'm jumping on the Eureka bandwagon. I don't know much about the Red Devils, aside from that Reasnover is the truth. Do they have the size on the offensive and defensive lines to hang with a CCIW team? And their secondary looks like it has the length to compete with Healy and IWU's WR core, but their LB measurements seem a bit undersized (though that hasn't seemed to hinder them at all this year.) Either way, excited to see how they handle Nixon, Sanders & Tennette this Saturday. Should be a great game.

I predict the EC offense will steamroll a CUW team that gave up 34 to CUC last week.  They will not shut down Reasnover.

Now, it will be interesting to see where EC gets paired when (ok, if) they go 10-0.

My opinion as a fan is that they should get a CCIW matchup and not get sent to one of the U-Dubs or Saints.  If EC gets IWU (this is a 35 minute road trip and game that makes a ton of sense if you want a huge crowd) we will have a ballgame.  I could also see North Central as a possibility.  Strength of schedule (235 out of 238) and conference reputation does not help, but 10-0 is 10-0.  This is an EC team that showed well at St. Thomas last year and deserves to test their mettle against a geographically proximate foe out of the CCIW. 

The last time the NACC was competitive in an NCAA playoff game was when 10-0 CUC took on Bethel in 2012. They ended up going for 2 and the win with under a minute left in the game and came up short. I would love to see another 10-0 NACC Champion take that confidence into the playoffs. That year CUC had an explosive offense with Koeher at QB and Maddox at RB, not to mention Jamal Thomas operating out wide like a D3 Brandon Cooks. And the defense was able to make just enough plays to keep the Cougars in it until the end. Eureka's defense looks stout this year, not counting when the game is in the bag and the second unit comes in to get some PT. Reasnover is one of the best the NACC has seen in its decade existence, if not the best; I'd put him up in the top 3 with Borsellino of BU and Copeland of CUC. But in the playoffs, teams are going to force Drew Barth to make plays by stacking the box excessively and keying hard on Reasnover. We haven't had to see it much, but the Red Devil WRs are going to have to be able to beat man-to-man coverage. Hoping to get a closer look at the receiver play this Saturday vs. CUW.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 24, 2018, 02:57:53 PM
I could totally get on board with Eureka as a 7 or a 6 seed depending on who else is in the bracket.

A 6 or 7 seed would be interesting. Would be curious to see which conference draws us for that 1st round match-up. Getting ahead of myself, though. Still 3 weeks left and the de-facto NACC Championship Game less than 48 hours away  ;)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 26, 2018, 04:27:54 PM
Yes, I think that Eureka will prevail vs. CUW. Weather doesn't look too bad, although I think a wet field would actually favor Eureka more. Might have to peek in at this game.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on October 27, 2018, 05:29:02 PM
 :o Wow, that Eureka v CUW game was absolute insanity from start to finish! Instant NACC Classic. @ecreddevils- Eureka proved that they belong at the top of the NACC. Reasnover gave everything he had, and his game winning TD made my jaw drop, literally. I was so impressed by Eureka's offensive line throughout the entire afternoon; Am I allowed to nominate them for D3 Team of the Week, @Pat Coleman?  ;)
Such an exciting and well-played game by both offenses. Both defenses are going to hate watching the film tomorrow, but they did make some big plays that swung momentum back to their respective offenses. So happy I was able to catch it live.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 28, 2018, 01:30:10 PM
Week Nine scores:

Eureka 48 (5-0, 8-0)
Concordia Wisconsin 45 (4-1, 6-2)

Rockford 13 (1-4, 2-6)
Concordia Chicago 41 (1-4, 2-6)

Benedictine 42 (2-3, 2-6)
Lakeland 52 (3-2, 3-5)

Wisconsin Lutheran 0 (1-4, 1-7)
Aurora 43 (3-2, 3-5)

I didn't actually see the big game of this week, so let's take it from someone who did:
Quote from: Rhythm21 on October 27, 2018, 05:29:02 PM
:o Wow, that Eureka v CUW game was absolute insanity from start to finish! Instant NACC Classic. @ecreddevils- Eureka proved that they belong at the top of the NACC. Reasnover gave everything he had, and his game winning TD made my jaw drop, literally. I was so impressed by Eureka's offensive line throughout the entire afternoon; Am I allowed to nominate them for D3 Team of the Week, @Pat Coleman?  ;)
Such an exciting and well-played game by both offenses. Both defenses are going to hate watching the film tomorrow, but they did make some big plays that swung momentum back to their respective offenses. So happy I was able to catch it live.
Le'Anthony Reasnover's individual brilliance proved to be a little bit too much for the Falcons - his 48th carry of the game, and 5th touchdown run (tying his conference record...for the 4th week in a row) with 19 seconds left was decisive, and the Red Devils now have one hand on their second straight playoff berth.

Lakeland in recent weeks has adopted a run-heavy attack of their own, posting 495 yards on the ground in this week's win. (Though Nunnery got hurt late, because God forbid we actually keep a QB healthy this season...) We get our shot at trying to stop Reasnover next week, as he continues his quest to trash the NACC's single season and single game record books - his 1,654 rushing yards and 31 rushing TDs thus far are both conference records as well, quite handily so in the case of the latter. Fans of passing may want to look elsewhere next week. ;D
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ECFAN$2018 on October 28, 2018, 09:09:56 PM
I was at the game.  Reasnover and Nixon put on an offense show for the ages.  Eureka had about the worst start to game I have ever seen, but recovered in the 3rd quarter.  It was a game that made you feel like the team with the ball at the end (and had enough time to score) was going to win the game.  Eureka got the ball with 4:45 and pretty much ate up the clock (17 seconds left for CUW).   Reasnover run to end the game was RIDICULOUS! 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on October 29, 2018, 09:54:46 AM
Quote from: ECFAN$2018 on October 28, 2018, 09:09:56 PM
I was at the game.  Reasnover and Nixon put on an offense show for the ages.  Eureka had about the worst start to game I have ever seen, but recovered in the 3rd quarter.  It was a game that made you feel like the team with the ball at the end (and had enough time to score) was going to win the game.  Eureka got the ball with 4:45 and pretty much ate up the clock (17 seconds left for CUW).   Reasnover run to end the game was RIDICULOUS!

I dare you to show me a more entertaining game at any level on Saturday.  Reasnover deserves All-American First Team consideration, he is truly a generational talent at this level.  Kurt Barth for coach of the year.  EC in the driver's seat now. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
Regional rankings are out: 
http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2018/first-regional-ranking
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on October 31, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
Regional rankings are out: 
http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2018/first-regional-ranking

Great to see EC get some recognition at 10 even with the poor strength of schedule.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 03, 2018, 05:25:35 PM
Quote from: ecreddevils on October 31, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
Regional rankings are out: 
http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2018/first-regional-ranking

Great to see EC get some recognition at 10 even with the poor strength of schedule.

Welp, that was short-lived  :o

The biggest news of the day... AU puts a beating down on the Beagles! Serious congratulations to the Spartans for a solid rivalry win!!!

The Lakeland-Eureka result was maybe the worst thing that could've happened for the NACC. Eureka's defense was exposed; Reasnover took a beating with somewhere around 50 carries; Eureka's pass offense is nowhere near good enough to compete in the playoffs. Dissappointed in that final 2-point conversion play call: Reasnover looked gassed all the way back in the 3rd quarter and everyone on the Lakeland D knew he was getting the rock. I'm afraid Reasnover isn't going to have anything left in the tank come playoff time, and Barth and the Red Devil pass game are going to be asked to carry the team.

Big congrats to Lakeland on Senior Day! The defense was... well, Lakeland's defense. But their offense took control of that game, not giving up after falling behind 21-0 with 10:00 left in the 1st quarter. They showed some resiliency and earned that win.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 05, 2018, 12:38:09 AM
Week Ten scores:

Eureka 55 (5-1, 8-1)
Lakeland 56 (4-2, 4-5)

Concordia Wisconsin 0 (4-2, 6-3)
Rockford 24 (2-4, 3-6)

Aurora 41 (4-2, 4-5)
Benedictine 24 (2-4, 2-7)

Concordia Chicago 27 (1-5, 2-7)
Wisconsin Lutheran 30 (2-4, 2-7)

First things first, Reasnover is every bit as good as advertised - a combination of relentlessness and ability that few can match. I for one won't be shedding a tear that we won't have to face him again. ;D

Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 03, 2018, 05:25:35 PM
Big congrats to Lakeland on Senior Day! The defense was... well, Lakeland's defense. But their offense took control of that game, not giving up after falling behind 21-0 with 10:00 left in the 1st quarter. They showed some resiliency and earned that win.

No, the Muskie D didn't make a lot of stops, but they made some key ones - forcing a pair of turnovers in the 1st quarter to stop the game from getting completely out of hand, and eventually getting the ball back for the offense late.

And that's without even going into the other games, like Rockford putting a whooping on CUW and Benedictine now having their most losses in a season since 2005. We may not have the best teams in this conference, but it is never boring in the NACC.

But anyways, there is one week to go, and the automatic playoff berth is still to be decided.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 05, 2018, 10:43:53 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 05, 2018, 12:38:09 AM
But anyways, there is one week to go, and the automatic playoff berth is still to be decided.

  • Eureka needs a win over Rockford, which would make them the outright champions, OR an Aurora win would give them the head to head tiebreaker whether or not CUW is involved.
  • Concordia Wisconsin needs a win over WLC AND a Eureka Ioss AND a Lakeland win; CUW, EC and LU would all be 1-1 head to head, each also with a loss to RU, so it would go to H2H point differential: Falcons +14, Red Devils +2, Muskies -16.
  • Lakeland needs a win over Aurora AND Eureka and CUW both to lose; that would leave LU and EC tied, and head to head would send a 5-5 team to the playoffs.

:o I honestly thought Eureka had the bid wrapped up. +1 Ryan Stoppable for the breakdown.

Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 05, 2018, 12:38:09 AM

No, the Muskie D didn't make a lot of stops, but they made some key ones - forcing a pair of turnovers in the 1st quarter to stop the game from getting completely out of hand, and eventually getting the ball back for the offense late.

And that's without even going into the other games, like Rockford putting a whooping on CUW and Benedictine now having their most losses in a season since 2005. We may not have the best teams in this conference, but it is never boring in the NACC.


Lakeland's defense always has playmakers that create huge momentum swings for their offense, which is why I've had trouble understanding their inconsistency over the past 5 or so years on that side of the ball. I'm not sure if players are abandoning their responsibilities or not making correct reads or if they don't fit the D-coordinator's scheme. I honestly don't quite know what's been going on. But if they ever get it figured out with the way their offense can explode at a moments notice, Lakeland might be the odds-on favorite to win the NACC for many years to come.

Rockford beating CUW, Lakeland-Eureka thriller, AU-BU rivalry; You are correct, the NACC is anything but boring!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 06, 2018, 01:09:33 PM
It's finally nice to see RU finally be competitive in the NACC this year for football. That program has come a long way from they had to fight Maranatha (That canned their football program a year or two ago) for their only win. Hopefully they can continue that upward trend.

As for CUW, they started out strong then all of the sudden they have lost two straight heading into the Luther Bowl against WLC. As much as I see CUW reclaiming the Cup over a WLC program that has gone downward over the last few years, I could still see them losing here.

I think EC still walks away with the Auto-Bid. Granted they have been playing with fire the last few weeks and it burned them against LU, but I don't think RU can effectively stop Reasnover enough times to get the W.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 10, 2018, 10:58:11 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 06, 2018, 01:09:33 PM
It's finally nice to see RU finally be competitive in the NACC this year for football. That program has come a long way from they had to fight Maranatha (That canned their football program a year or two ago) for their only win. Hopefully they can continue that upward trend.

This is the first time since 2008 they've had multiple conference wins in the same season. And against two teams that will finish above .500 in the league, no less.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 10, 2018, 11:52:41 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 10, 2018, 10:58:11 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 06, 2018, 01:09:33 PM
It's finally nice to see RU finally be competitive in the NACC this year for football. That program has come a long way from they had to fight Maranatha (That canned their football program a year or two ago) for their only win. Hopefully they can continue that upward trend.

This is the first time since 2008 they've had multiple conference wins in the same season. And against two teams that will finish above .500 in the league, no less.

And they almost came away with a third against my alma mater.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 10, 2018, 04:39:13 PM
With Aurora's OT victory over Lakeland, Eureka has officially clinched the NACC's automatic berth to the playoffs! They will be headed back to the postseason for the 2nd year in a row, though representing a different conference this time.

(They are well on their way to winning their own game as well, which will give them the outright championship.)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ECFAN$2018 on November 11, 2018, 11:28:15 AM
Congrats to Eureka.  The new boy on the block wins the conference outright!!  D3 has us projected to go to UW Whitewater.  I think North Central is more likely.   
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on November 12, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
It was never going to be North Central after the loss to Lakeland.  UW-Whitewater is no surprise.  Bring em' on--offense do your thing on the ground, defense fight for every inch and get stops--we'll see what happens.

Congrats for making the playoffs in back-to-back years, huge accomplishment!

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 13, 2018, 09:40:55 PM
Week Eleven scores:

Rockford 7
Eureka 38

Lakeland 22
Aurora 25 (OT)

Wisconsin Lutheran 14
Concordia Wisconsin 21

Benedictine 54
Concordia Chicago 41

2018 NACC Standings
1. Eureka 6-1 (9-1)
2. Concordia Wisconsin 5-2 (7-3)
2. Aurora 5-2 (5-5)
4. Lakeland 4-3 (4-6)
5. Benedictine 3-4 (3-7)
6. Rockford 2-5 (3-7)
6. Wisconsin Lutheran 2-5 (2-8)
8. Concordia Chicago 1-6 (2-8)

Best of luck to Eureka in the playoffs! Also a fine season by CUW, improving over last year by five wins as they claimed their first winning season since their NACC title in 2013. (Though we at Lakeland will be needing the Cheese Bowl back next year, thank you very much. ;D)

Will be really interesting to see the all-conference selections at RB. Behind Reasnover and Moise, who should be locks for the first team, you have Bailey from AU, Williams from BU, and Rivers from LU who all had at least 980 yards and 8 TDs apiece (for comparison, 975 and 9 respectively led the league last year) - and barring any ties, one of them will only get honorable mention.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 14, 2018, 11:03:26 AM
Congratulations to Eureka and best of luck to them in the playoffs.

Also, quite a turn-around at Concordia-Wis, wouldn't you say? After Hope crushed them last year in 2017s final game if the season, I was not expecting them to do well this year. Would that not qualify as among one or the best reversals for a program, similar to Hope back in 2016?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ECFAN$2018 on November 14, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
FYI -- Coach Ponx at AU is gone.  They are looking for new coach.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: thunderdog on November 15, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: ECFAN$2018 on November 14, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
FYI -- Coach Ponx at AU is gone.  They are looking for new coach.

Don Beebe. It's official. Former state-title winning HC @ Aurora Christian. And, of course, former Buffalo Bill...
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on November 15, 2018, 09:42:56 PM
Quote from: thunderdog on November 15, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: ECFAN$2018 on November 14, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
FYI -- Coach Ponx at AU is gone.  They are looking for new coach.

Don Beebe. It's official. Former state-title winning HC @ Aurora Christian. And, of course, former Buffalo Bill...

Really a quality hire. Don Beebe is a man of faith and great character.  The AU program is in good hands.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 15, 2018, 10:01:11 PM
Would like to how the coaching change went down for Aurora. Such a sudden change and a quick hire. Ponx had that program going the right direction.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 15, 2018, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: thunderdog on November 15, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: ECFAN$2018 on November 14, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
FYI -- Coach Ponx at AU is gone.  They are looking for new coach.

Don Beebe. It's official. Former state-title winning HC @ Aurora Christian. And, of course, former Buffalo Bill...

... and the man noted for one of the most inspiring hustle plays in NFL history, in Super Bowl XXVII.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: lmitzel on November 15, 2018, 11:59:30 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 15, 2018, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: thunderdog on November 15, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: ECFAN$2018 on November 14, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
FYI -- Coach Ponx at AU is gone.  They are looking for new coach.

Don Beebe. It's official. Former state-title winning HC @ Aurora Christian. And, of course, former Buffalo Bill...

... and the man noted for one of the most inspiring hustle plays in NFL history, in Super Bowl XXVII.

What's great is that he and Leon Lett are friends now, I guess.

I think it's a good move for AU. I went to Aurora Christian, where Beebe coached for a few years and won a couple state titles (he started coaching when I was a sophomore), and beyond being a heck of a football coach, he was super nice the handful of times I talked to him. Hope he does well.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ecreddevils on November 16, 2018, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!

Great hire for AU. Looks like he just really wants to coach.  Chicago Trib reports he was looking to assist at NIU or leave the area for a high school job.  This type of  name recognition can only help the NACC. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 16, 2018, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: ecreddevils on November 16, 2018, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!

Great hire for AU. Looks like he just really wants to coach.  Chicago Trib reports he was looking to assist at NIU or leave the area for a high school job.  This type of  name recognition can only help the NACC. 

Absolutely. This is a positive hire not just for AU, but for the NACC in general. Hope this momentum somehow carries into Saturday for the NACC and Reasnover and the Red Devils go on to stun UWW (and the rest of the nation, for that matter) in Whitewater.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: warhawkguard on November 21, 2018, 01:39:44 PM
Quote from: ecreddevils on November 12, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
It was never going to be North Central after the loss to Lakeland.  UW-Whitewater is no surprise.  Bring em' on--offense do your thing on the ground, defense fight for every inch and get stops--we'll see what happens.

Congrats for making the playoffs in back-to-back years, huge accomplishment!

Wow, kinda quiet here now...
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 21, 2018, 03:26:08 PM
Quote from: warhawkguard on November 21, 2018, 01:39:44 PM
Quote from: ecreddevils on November 12, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
It was never going to be North Central after the loss to Lakeland.  UW-Whitewater is no surprise.  Bring em' on--offense do your thing on the ground, defense fight for every inch and get stops--we'll see what happens.

Congrats for making the playoffs in back-to-back years, huge accomplishment!

Wow, kinda quiet here now...

You know,.you're right! We do have things to talk about - namely, the NACC all-conference teams (http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/20181116allNACC) that were released late last week. Congratulations especially to Offensive Player of the Year, Eureka RB Le'Anthony Reasnover (no shock there); Defensive Player of the Year, Lakeland LB Diante Moses; Freshman of the Year, Concordia Chicago WR Eric Hoff; and Coach of the Year Kurt Barth from Eureka.

Reasnover was also named as one of 13 semifinalists for the Gagliardi Trophy (http://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/20181120reasnover-gagliardi), a fitting capstone to a career that saw him finish in the top 10 all time in rushing yards and scoring in Division III.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on November 21, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!

With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not.
Additionally, when you factor in the academic component, the advantage that those other schools enjoy only increases.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: UWO Titan 78 on December 14, 2018, 01:28:46 PM
I saw that Concordia Chicago lists a Head Coach TBD. Anyone know who's in the running?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on December 17, 2018, 07:31:49 AM
This is from the Football Scoop.

Concordia-Chicago (D-III – IL): Sources tell FootballScoop that Jason Aubry will be the new head coach at CU-Chicago. Aubry spent this past season as the offensive coordinator at Larkin HS (IL) and is the former head coach at Joliet West HS (IL).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Look It Up on December 17, 2018, 10:18:52 AM
CUC's official release - https://www.cucougars.com/news/2018/12/17/jason-aubry-appointed-new-head-coach-for-cuc-football.aspx
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 17, 2018, 10:02:52 PM
Quote from: Look It Up on December 17, 2018, 10:18:52 AM
CUC's official release - https://www.cucougars.com/news/2018/12/17/jason-aubry-appointed-new-head-coach-for-cuc-football.aspx
Quote from: fulbakdad on December 17, 2018, 07:31:49 AM
This is from the Football Scoop.

Concordia-Chicago (D-III – IL): Sources tell FootballScoop that Jason Aubry will be the new head coach at CU-Chicago. Aubry spent this past season as the offensive coordinator at Larkin HS (IL) and is the former head coach at Joliet West HS (IL).

So was the former coach fired/released or did he leave for another position?  I could find no information or news releases from the athletics department/administration.  Just curious.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 17, 2018, 10:09:23 PM
He was an interim coach, so no guarantees.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on December 17, 2018, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 17, 2018, 10:09:23 PM
He was an interim coach, so no guarantees.

Thanks Pat.  I forgot that aspect regarding his status for this year.  For sure, the interim title does not guarantee anyone they'll get the position full time.  Sometimes they do, sometimes not.

 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on February 18, 2019, 12:23:33 PM
Benedictine head coach Brad McCaslin has resigned (http://naccsports.org/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/20190215-benu-mccaslin-resign) to rejoin Lance Leopold's staff at the University of Buffalo, where he will coach DTs.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 20, 2019, 01:58:16 AM
Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!

With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not.
Additionally, when you factor in the academic component, the advantage that those other schools enjoy only increases.

Haha,you figure a former Super Bowl champion won't have an effect on high school football recruits? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were joking/inebriated when you threw that opinion out there. On top of being a former Super Bowl champion, the reputation and rapport Beebe's earned in the local high school coaching ranks is very similar to what Thorne had prior to NCC becoming a powerhouse. That's national name brand recognition for out-of-staters and local coaching relationships for the in-area recruits. True, IWU's academics may be a factor, but NCC is a closer recruiting competitor and is an average Illinois private school academically. So the academic disparity is not as much of a factor between AU and NCC as I think you believe it to be. A more prominent challenge for AU than academics is the conference tradition and football history from NACC to CCIW/AU to NCC/IWU/Wheaton, etc. But to think that AU hadn't been able to compete with the likes of IWU and NCC for recruits prior to Beebe is very naive, AndOne (Which is why I gave you the benefit of the doubt earlier.) With Beebe at the helm, AU just has a broader pitch.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on March 23, 2019, 12:44:37 PM
Here is some of the 2019 Football Schedules for the NACC.

Aurora

9/7 vs St. Norbert
9/14 at Elmhurst
9/21 at Hope
10/5 vs Eureka
10/12 vs Concordia Chicago
10/19 at Concordia Wisconsin
10/26 vs Rockford
11/2 vs Benedictine
11/9 at Wisconsin Lutheran
11/16 at Lakeland

Benedictine

9/7 vs Franklin
9/14 at Loras
9/21 at Olivet
10/5 at Concordia Wisconsin
10/12 vs Rockford
10/19 at Wisconsin Lutheran
10/26 vs Eureka
11/2 at Aurora
11/9 vs Lakeland
11/16 vs Concordia Chicago

Concordia Chicago

9/7 at Beloit
9/14 vs Olivet
9/21 at Finlandia
10/5 vs Lakeland
10/12 at Aurora
10/19 at Eureka
10/26 vs Concordia Wisconsin
11/2 vs Wisconsin Lutheran
11/9 at Rockford
11/16 at Benedictine

Concordia Wisconsin

9/7 vs Finlandia
9/14 at Augsburg
9/21 at Trine
10/5 vs Benedictine
10/12 at Lakeland
10/19 vs Aurora
10/26 at Concordia Chicago
11/2 vs Rockford
11/9 at Eureka
11/16 at Wisconsin Lutheran

Eureka

9/7 vs Knox
9/14 vs MacMurray
9/21 at Albion
10/5 at Aurora
10/12 at Wisconsin Lutheran
10/19 vs Concordia Chicago
10/26 at Benedictine
11/2 vs Lakeland
11/9 vs Concordia Wisconsin
11/16 at Rockford

Lakeland

9/7 vs Carroll
9/21 at Kalamazoo
9/28 vs UW-Platteville
10/5 at Concordia Chicago
10/12 vs Concordia Wisconsin
10/19 at Rockford
10/25 at Wisconsin Lutheran
11/2 at Eureka
11/9 at Benedictine
11/16 vs Aurora

Rockford

9/7 at MacMurray
9/14 at Martin Luther
9/21 at Alma
10/5 vs Wisconsin Lutheran
10/12 at Benedictine
10/19 vs Lakeland
10/26 at Aurora
11/2 at Concordia Wisconsin
11/9 vs Concordia Chicago
11/6 vs Eureka

Wisconsin Lutheran


9/5 vs Lake Forest
9/14 at Lawrence Tech
9/21 at Adrian
10/5 at Rockford
10/12 vs Eureka
10/19 vs Benedictine
10/26 at Lakeland
11/2 at Concordia Chicago
11/9 vs Aurora
11/16 vs Concordia Wisconsin
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 03, 2019, 12:34:09 PM
St. Norbert moving to the NACC beginning in 2020-21. Should be a shift in power at the top of league I would imagine.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on April 03, 2019, 03:41:07 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 03, 2019, 12:34:09 PM
St. Norbert moving to the NACC beginning in 2020-21. Should be a shift in power at the top of league I would imagine.

I agree. It seems to me that NACC football is divided into the "usually pretty decent", "usually meh", and "usually not very good" levels, but there are often some surprises in that someone's often finishing surprisingly high and someone's finishing surprisingly low. Sticking St. Norbert into the league seems to either add a team that will be in the "usually pretty decent" group, or create a new level - "expected to win the league unless something surprising happens".

Does this make any sense?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on April 04, 2019, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: RFMichigan on April 03, 2019, 03:41:07 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 03, 2019, 12:34:09 PM
St. Norbert moving to the NACC beginning in 2020-21. Should be a shift in power at the top of league I would imagine.

I agree. It seems to me that NACC football is divided into the "usually pretty decent", "usually meh", and "usually not very good" levels, but there are often some surprises in that someone's often finishing surprisingly high and someone's finishing surprisingly low. Sticking St. Norbert into the league seems to either add a team that will be in the "usually pretty decent" group, or create a new level - "expected to win the league unless something surprising happens".

Does this make any sense?

Sounds about right. SNC played Aurora (5-2 in NACC) last season and while the final was 16-7, stats suggest SNC was in total control. They'll play the second part of that series to open 2019 season.

What is Benedictine's status as a NACC member going forward?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 04, 2019, 12:06:32 PM
They are a full member and have no postseason restriction any more, beginning in 2019-20.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on April 04, 2019, 03:50:13 PM
Quote from: WW on April 04, 2019, 10:27:43 AM
Quote from: RFMichigan on April 03, 2019, 03:41:07 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on April 03, 2019, 12:34:09 PM
St. Norbert moving to the NACC beginning in 2020-21. Should be a shift in power at the top of league I would imagine.

I agree. It seems to me that NACC football is divided into the "usually pretty decent", "usually meh", and "usually not very good" levels, but there are often some surprises in that someone's often finishing surprisingly high and someone's finishing surprisingly low. Sticking St. Norbert into the league seems to either add a team that will be in the "usually pretty decent" group, or create a new level - "expected to win the league unless something surprising happens".

Does this make any sense?

Sounds about right. SNC played Aurora (5-2 in NACC) last season and while the final was 16-7, stats suggest SNC was in total control. They'll play the second part of that series to open 2019 season.

What is Benedictine's status as a NACC member going forward?

St. Norbert also lost to Benedictine in both 2016 and 2017. But that said, the Green Knights don't seem to really have "down years" like...well, every other team in this conference. Good news is that De Pere is a pretty easy drive from Sheboygan. ;D

In some coaching news, Benedictine hired Jim Schroeder away from Rockford to be their new head coach - he had been the Eagles' defensive coordinator for ten years prior to taking RU's top job. The Regents then elevated their defensive coordinator, J.T. Zimmerman, to head coach.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on April 05, 2019, 12:28:33 AM
Yeah BenU should be eligible for conference championships starting next year. They could've gotten at-large bids for the NCAA tournaments I believe.

On the whole adding St. Norbert to the league should up the conference profile a bit in football. SNC will be in the running for one of the favorites in a yearly basis and should make the top of the league more competitive.

On a different note.....what will this move do to the MIAA-NACC Challenge series? Will a NACC team have to sit out of the games to give keep it even or would a random team be pulled into the series each year to even it out?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on April 05, 2019, 10:37:17 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on April 05, 2019, 12:28:33 AM
Yeah BenU should be eligible for conference championships starting next year. They could've gotten at-large bids for the NCAA tournaments I believe.

On the whole adding St. Norbert to the league should up the conference profile a bit in football. SNC will be in the running for one of the favorites in a yearly basis and should make the top of the league more competitive.

On a different note.....what will this move do to the MIAA-NACC Challenge series? Will a NACC team have to sit out of the games to give keep it even or would a random team be pulled into the series each year to even it out?

No inside knowledge here but I think it makes sense for MIAA-NACC to go away. Presuming NACC teams will play 8 league games upon SNC's arrival, that necessitates only two NC games. I doubt NACC teams have much trouble finding nearby NC foes. MIAA games are a hike for many NACC schools anyway.

SNC is already scheduled out with home-and-homes on its NC slate through 2021, so they don't have room for a MIAA-NACC game, unless they break one of those deals.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on June 23, 2019, 07:36:45 AM
Aurora's football twitter account dropped the first recruiting class of the Don Beebe era a few days ago with individual tweets featuring each commit (Twitter page@ https://twitter.com/au_spartanfb?lang=en). Haven't been able to look in depth into all as of yet, but there are a couple that stood out immediately after watching their highlights.

Brycen Horn, Strong Safety, El Paso, Texas
Highlights: http://www.hudl.com/profile/6099048/Brycen-Horn
Spartans just graduated starting Safety Casey Kurinec, opening up a competition for the vacated spot next to senior Kam Ryan. From the highlights it is apparent this kid loves to hit. He runs the alley well and gets ball carriers to the ground with little trouble. He shows the speed to play hash to sideline, the instincts to dissect route combinations, and the ball skills to pick it off and turn into a dangerous  return man. Really excited to see if he can come out of camp as the starter week 1.


Marcellus Romious, Inside Linebacker, Belleville, IL
Highlights: https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7395959/5ba85490dfe2760f00a6fcff
Has the size and frame to carry another 15-20 pounds and still display the quick twitch that allows him to read and attack the run, filling lanes as soon as the RB thinks about hitting it. He is a consistent tackler who can shed blocks easily (or, in some cases, make the blocker whiff completely) and make the play. Didn't see a lot of passes head his way, but he displayed the ability on screen passes and crossing routes to recognize what was coming during his zone drop and fly to the football. If nothing else, this is a freshman that can make an impact on all special teams.


Sam Varner, Wide Receiver, Little Elm, Texas
Highlights: https://www.hudl.com/profile/5494514/Samuel-Varner
I'm really excited to see Beebe and his staff pulling recruits out of the Lone Star State, if that wasn't apparent. Varner is listed at 5'7 165 pounds, and both numbers might be a little exaggerated . . . but watch his senior season highlights. He spends a good part of it lined up at Tight end/Super back, and the way he blocks makes you forget about his measurements. This kid is tenacious. And no he's not going to be able to line up at TE in the NACC and take on Defensive Ends, but he'll line up in the slot, get out on a safety and help turn a 10-15 yard run from Tyran Bailey/Connor Olson into a 50 yard touchdown. What really excites me about Varner is his explosive speed and quickness, very reminiscent to the brief career of Michael Hart-Beasley. Speed speed speed; There are plenty highlights of Varner running a seam route from the slot or a 9 route from the split and just leaving Defensive Backs in his wake. He has quick feet that let him gain separation and his run-after catch is exciting. He either makes a cut in the open field that leaves tacklers diving at air or drops a shoulder and straight runs them over. Big-time get for the Spartans. With Logiurato graduating, would be surprised if he isn't lining up in the slot beside Emilio Starks at some point in 2019.


So many other recruits I could go over, i.e. Brock Harner, WR from Aurora Christian (https://www.hudl.com/video/3/5474697/581112253bd815718cab374c), Ozzie Young, Athlete from North Chicago (https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9733121/5bccb5090660b108b8cb7a05), or Montez Wright, Cornerback & Halfback & Punter & Punt Returner (No, I'm not joking; check out his highlights, they're amazing) from Clovis in New Mexico (https://www.hudl.com/profile/7619777/Montez-Wright). And those are just a few of the skill position recruits to look forward to. I haven't even had a chance to delve into the offensive and defensive line commits. I know it's not even July, but . . . is it football season yet? Go Spartans
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on July 05, 2019, 05:45:09 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on February 20, 2019, 01:58:16 AM
Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!

With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not.
Additionally, when you factor in the academic component, the advantage that those other schools enjoy only increases.

Haha,you figure a former Super Bowl champion won't have an effect on high school football recruits? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were joking/inebriated when you threw that opinion out there. On top of being a former Super Bowl champion, the reputation and rapport Beebe's earned in the local high school coaching ranks is very similar to what Thorne had prior to NCC becoming a powerhouse. That's national name brand recognition for out-of-staters and local coaching relationships for the in-area recruits. True, IWU's academics may be a factor, but NCC is a closer recruiting competitor and is an average Illinois private school academically. So the academic disparity is not as much of a factor between AU and NCC as I think you believe it to be. A more prominent challenge for AU than academics is the conference tradition and football history from NACC to CCIW/AU to NCC/IWU/Wheaton, etc. But to think that AU hadn't been able to compete with the likes of IWU and NCC for recruits prior to Beebe is very naive, AndOne (Which is why I gave you the benefit of the doubt earlier.) With Beebe at the helm, AU just has a broader pitch.

Rhythm,

I have little doubt AU recruiting will take a step up with Beebe at the helm.

However, that said, you need to clean the mud off your blue tinted glasses, and present factual, as opposed to wishful, information when comparing AU with North Central, (and IWU) both athletically and academically. Actually, I'm a little surprised you chose the route you did. Perhaps I wasn't the one joking and/or inebriated at the time of my post. 😏

You stated "IWU's academics may be a factor, but NCC is a closer recruiting competitor and (NCC) is an average Illinois private school academically. So the academic disparity is not as much as a factor between AU and NCC as I think you believe it to be.

Actually, I believe the gap in academic disparity between AU and NCC is quite a bit larger than you imagine it to be.
ACADEMICALLY, here are the facts;
US News & World Report ranks Aurora as #123 in the Midwest Regional Universities category, and scores it with 33 out of a possible 100 points.
Conversely, North Central is ranked as #13 in the same Midwest Regional Universities category, with a score of 70 points.
It might just be me, but I think there is a fairly large disparity between both 13 and 123 and between 33 and 70.
I don't know if being ranked 13th in the entire Midwest Region makes NCC "an average Illinois private school academically," but I'm pretty sure it signifies a fairly sizable disparity with a school ranked 123rd in the same category.
* Incidentally, IWU doesn't offer graduate level classes so they are classified as a National Liberal Arts institution. In that category they are ranked #72 with a score of 65 points of 100.

Moving on to the difference ATHLETICALLY........
You stated, "to think AU hadn't been able to compete with the likes of IWU and NCC for recruits prior to Beebe is very naive, AndOne."

Let's see. Over the last 3 years, Aurora has won 16 games. IWU has won 24 games. NCC has won 31 games. Over those 3 years NCC has finished the season ranked #8, #8, and #10 respectively in the nation in the Final D3Football Poll.
Yes, very naive of me to think IWU and NCC do just a bit better job both recruiting and being much more athletically successful on a local, regional, and national basis. 🤔 😉

Anyway, just wanted to set the record straight. And, again, I DO think things will improve under Beebe, and will be surprised if such does not prove to be the case. 😊
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on July 09, 2019, 12:11:25 AM
Quote from: AndOne on July 05, 2019, 05:45:09 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on February 20, 2019, 01:58:16 AM
Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!

With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not.
Additionally, when you factor in the academic component, the advantage that those other schools enjoy only increases.

Haha,you figure a former Super Bowl champion won't have an effect on high school football recruits? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were joking/inebriated when you threw that opinion out there. On top of being a former Super Bowl champion, the reputation and rapport Beebe's earned in the local high school coaching ranks is very similar to what Thorne had prior to NCC becoming a powerhouse. That's national name brand recognition for out-of-staters and local coaching relationships for the in-area recruits. True, IWU's academics may be a factor, but NCC is a closer recruiting competitor and is an average Illinois private school academically. So the academic disparity is not as much of a factor between AU and NCC as I think you believe it to be. A more prominent challenge for AU than academics is the conference tradition and football history from NACC to CCIW/AU to NCC/IWU/Wheaton, etc. But to think that AU hadn't been able to compete with the likes of IWU and NCC for recruits prior to Beebe is very naive, AndOne (Which is why I gave you the benefit of the doubt earlier.) With Beebe at the helm, AU just has a broader pitch.

Rhythm,

I have little doubt AU recruiting will take a step up with Beebe at the helm.

However, that said, you need to clean the mud off your blue tinted glasses, and present factual, as opposed to wishful, information when comparing AU with North Central, (and IWU) both athletically and academically. Actually, I'm a little surprised you chose the route you did. Perhaps I wasn't the one joking and/or inebriated at the time of my post. 😏

You stated "IWU's academics may be a factor, but NCC is a closer recruiting competitor and (NCC) is an average Illinois private school academically. So the academic disparity is not as much as a factor between AU and NCC as I think you believe it to be.

Actually, I believe the gap in academic disparity between AU and NCC is quite a bit larger than you imagine it to be.
ACADEMICALLY, here are the facts;
US News & World Report ranks Aurora as #123 in the Midwest Regional Universities category, and scores it with 33 out of a possible 100 points.
Conversely, North Central is ranked as #13 in the same Midwest Regional Universities category, with a score of 70 points.
It might just be me, but I think there is a fairly large disparity between both 13 and 123 and between 33 and 70.
I don't know if being ranked 13th in the entire Midwest Region makes NCC "an average Illinois private school academically," but I'm pretty sure it signifies a fairly sizable disparity with a school ranked 123rd in the same category.
* Incidentally, IWU doesn't offer graduate level classes so they are classified as a National Liberal Arts institution. In that category they are ranked #72 with a score of 65 points of 100.

Moving on to the difference ATHLETICALLY........
You stated, "to think AU hadn't been able to compete with the likes of IWU and NCC for recruits prior to Beebe is very naive, AndOne."

Let's see. Over the last 3 years, Aurora has won 16 games. IWU has won 24 games. NCC has won 31 games. Over those 3 years NCC has finished the season ranked #8, #8, and #10 respectively in the nation in the Final D3Football Poll.
Yes, very naive of me to think IWU and NCC do just a bit better job both recruiting and being much more athletically successful on a local, regional, and national basis. 🤔 😉

Anyway, just wanted to set the record straight. And, again, I DO think things will improve under Beebe, and will be surprised if such does not prove to be the case. 😊

Oh no, AndOne. Please tell me you are actually kidding and know the difference between a fact and the opinion of a privately-owned news magazine that uses its own arbitrary algorithm combined with data self reported by the institutions it is trying to rank in order to increase revenue by driving traffic to their website. It's like saying "something is literally blank" when you're exaggerating that something  ::) Turns out I gave you a little too much credit when I used the word "naive" to describe your argument  ;)

So since your idea of facts are actually opinions (God, I really hope that's not what they teach at NCC), I'll just speak your language for a quick minute before getting back to the actual naive argument you posed before you tried to change the subject here. Here's Forbes "factual" list for Illinois schools:
https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/#tab:rank_state:Illinois

IWU is #206, NCC is #462, AU is #615. Illinois schools range nationally from #18 all the way to #621, putting the average Illinois school at #319.5 (That's 142.5 spots above NCC, which makes NCC a below average Illinois school.) Some more "facts" for you; NCC is 256 spots below IWU and only 153 spots above AU, making them closer academically to . . .? You guessed it, Aurora University. Are these spots factual? Because they differ severely from your factual spots? The argument isn't whether NCC is better academically than AU (It is), rather that it is not such a disparity as you think, which is true. The academic standing of an institution is all about perspective and, yes, NCC is an average in terms of Illinois private academics and is not on par with say a University of Chicago in academic prowess over AU.

Great, now that we're done with that, I can get back to the original opinion you threw out with no factual references attached. Refresher to your actual point-of-view (That is, if you weren't really joking/inebriated and still stand by it  ;) ): "With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not." -AndOne

Whether you meant it like this or not, what you were literally (Yes, this is going to be the correct use of the word) saying is that if a school like NCC or IWU recruits a high school football player, Aurora doesn't pose a threat to come in and scoop them, which can't possibly be the case as I had coached and played with kids who chose Aurora over NCC, Elmhurst, IWU, even schools in the Wisconsin Conference. What you seem to not grasp is that there are many variables apart from the academic and athletic history that go through a recruits mind when choosing a school to play at. There's tuition cost, immediate playing time/depth chart, how they feel about the coaches recruiting them, living expenses, the campus/city-feel/lifestyle, etc. Now this is not confirmed as far as I know, but I have heard that Beebe brought Cam Moore to AU from NCC. If that's true, we'll just chalk up your opinion quoted above as a joke and you can pretend you didn't mean it. Does NCC have the edge in recruiting vs. AU for the most part? Yes. Is it like Alabama recruiting a kid over NIU? Lol, nah, far from it. The truth is that AU does okay recruiting wise and they get a decent amount of their top targets. With Beebe, they will just get more that have CCIW interest than before.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on July 09, 2019, 02:00:16 PM
Sorry to interject here. But if people who would actually get on the field at top end CCIW/WIAC schools were coming to play in the NACC, the aforementioned teams wouldn't slaughter our champions in the playoffs basically every single year.

There have been individual players who take that decision, but never enough to make an impact on the national level - and the road to that point will be a long and gradual one if it even exists. But adding a head coach with a big name, and a school with a history of success and even of some playoff success, are both good steps towards improving the standard of play in the NACC.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on July 09, 2019, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on July 09, 2019, 02:00:16 PM
Sorry to interject here. But if people who would actually get on the field at top end CCIW/WIAC schools were coming to play in the NACC, the aforementioned teams wouldn't slaughter our champions in the playoffs basically every single year.

There have been individual players who take that decision, but never enough to make an impact on the national level - and the road to that point will be a long and gradual one if it even exists. But adding a head coach with a big name, and a school with a history of success and even of some playoff success, are both good steps towards improving the standard of play in the NACC.

The debate isn't whether CCIW teams like NCC and IWU are more accomplished and talented than NACC schools like AU, that is a given. The argument was that, even with Beebe, AU can't recruit against IWU/NCC at all, which is simply not true, as you yourself stated above. The NACC is still in its beginning stages and does have a way to go to catch the upper echelon of the CCIW, but let's not confuse CCIW teams with WIAC teams (You know, the conference that has played in almost every NAT CHAMPIONSHIP in the past decade+). AU has played CCIW teams competitively (I believe IWU and AU have had some one score games in the more recent past.)

Also, to put this nonsense to rest and actually set the record straight, Cam Moore, the highly touted former Wheaton Warrenville South WR/FS that played on NCC as a freshman and made a significant impact last season, has Aurora University Spartans '22 on his twitter account, essentially confirming him leaving NCC for AU. Thus, the statement AndOne made about AU not posing a threat in recruiting to NCC/IWU/etc., with or without Beebe, is entirely contradicted. And there is nothing wrong with that, AndOne. You are allowed to have wrong opinions, it's 2019  ;) Just don't call them facts  :)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on July 31, 2019, 05:01:54 PM
First of all, Rhythm, Cameron Moore was recruited out of high school by D2 Grand Valley State, at which he was unable to play.
He then, somewhat sensibly, transferred to a largely successful D3 program at NCC. Next year, he'll play for a slightly less well known D3 program at Aurora, Moore's third school in three years.
Why would he leave a program in which he was successful for a program at a less well known and regarded, both football-wise, and academically, school?

And, rather than just regaling us with a blurb that Beebe "recruited" Moore away from NCC, why don't you enlighten us as to exactly how this phenomenon occurred. Did Moore just suddenly call Coach Beebe, out of the blue, and express a desire to play for him at Aurora? Exactly when and how in his "recruitment" was contact with Mr. Moore initiated??
You know, he could have gone to Aurora either right out of high school, or following his stint at Grand Valley.  ;)
How did AU suddenly become Moore's Valhalla?
It would be interesting to know.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 31, 2019, 09:52:43 PM
I figured there would be people who would want to go to Aurora just to play for a former NFL player. I suspect there are probably also people who trained at his speed clinic who already have a relationship with Beebe and might go to play for him under those circumstances. No idea why Cameron Moore made the decision, but those are two reasons why kids might end up at Aurora above and beyond the usual recruiting decisions.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on August 01, 2019, 10:32:43 AM
Quote from: AndOne on July 31, 2019, 05:01:54 PM
First of all, Rhythm, Cameron Moore was recruited out of high school by D2 Grand Valley State, at which he was unable to play.
He then, somewhat sensibly, transferred to a largely successful D3 program at NCC. Next year, he'll play for a slightly less well known D3 program at Aurora, Moore's third school in three years.
Why would he leave a program in which he was successful for a program at a less well known and regarded, both football-wise, and academically, school?

And, rather than just regaling us with a blurb that Beebe "recruited" Moore away from NCC, why don't you enlighten us as to exactly how this phenomenon occurred. Did Moore just suddenly call Coach Beebe, out of the blue, and express a desire to play for him at Aurora? Exactly when and how in his "recruitment" was contact with Mr. Moore initiated??
You know, he could have gone to Aurora either right out of high school, or following his stint at Grand Valley.  ;)
How did AU suddenly become Moore's Valhalla?
It would be interesting to know.

I think Cameron Moore- and every other student athlete-  is entitled to enroll at whatever school he or she can be admitted to regardless of who called who first or who called who when. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: MUC57 on August 01, 2019, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on August 01, 2019, 10:32:43 AM
Quote from: AndOne on July 31, 2019, 05:01:54 PM
First of all, Rhythm, Cameron Moore was recruited out of high school by D2 Grand Valley State, at which he was unable to play.
He then, somewhat sensibly, transferred to a largely successful D3 program at NCC. Next year, he'll play for a slightly less well known D3 program at Aurora, Moore's third school in three years.
Why would he leave a program in which he was successful for a program at a less well known and regarded, both football-wise, and academically, school?

And, rather than just regaling us with a blurb that Beebe "recruited" Moore away from NCC, why don't you enlighten us as to exactly how this phenomenon occurred. Did Moore just suddenly call Coach Beebe, out of the blue, and express a desire to play for him at Aurora? Exactly when and how in his "recruitment" was contact with Mr. Moore initiated??
You know, he could have gone to Aurora either right out of high school, or following his stint at Grand Valley.  ;)
How did AU suddenly become Moore's Valhalla?
It would be interesting to know.

I think Cameron Moore- and every other student athlete-  is entitled to enroll at whatever school he or she can be admitted to regardless of who called who first or who called who when.

You nailed it, Wally! +K
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on August 01, 2019, 04:32:49 PM
Wally & MUC,

I agree 100% that a student-athlete is entitled to enroll at any school to which they can qualify academically. Freedom of choice, right?
However, I'm sure that you will agree that in cases involving a transfer, as opposed to a kid being recruited straight out of HS, that there are certain rules the school doing the "recruiting" has to play by.
Whether we like it or not, the NCAA feels who called/contacted who first or who called/contacted who when is important. That's why they have rules against a school calling or contacting a student-athlete or his family when that student is already attending a different school. Before the student who is playing at school A can be contacted by school B, he first has to inform his current coach/school of his desire/intent to transfer. I'm not sure if he has to name the other school or not, but there is definitely a set routine that has to be followed and a form that has to be signed. Once that's done, school B is free to make contact, and the kid is free to go wherever, as you stated, he can be admitted. The assurance the rules were followed is all I'm looking for.

I'm pretty sure that you would want those rules followed if a kid was playing for Wabash or Mt. Union. I doubt you would be real happy if another school first called or contacted a kid, or one of his family members, playing at your school before your student-athlete informed his coach/school of his desire to transfer and gave his approval for contact by the other school.

As Pat said, it's completely understandable if a kid wants to play for a former pro, especially if he has had some type of previous relationship with the man. However, in this case, Rhythm21 makes it sound like Coach Beebe just swooped in and plucked Cam Moore right out from under NCC's nose with no regard for any of the established rules concerning transfers. What he describes is a situation that could be construed as poaching/tampering by the NCAA. I doubt that was the case. But because of how the situation was described by Rhythm21, it would be nice to have the assurance the rules were followed. That's all. I think you would want that same assurance in the case of a Wabash or Mt. Union player.  :)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: MUC57 on August 01, 2019, 05:32:33 PM

AndOne

You also make excellent points! +K for you. Not a simple issue!  ::)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on August 01, 2019, 05:36:04 PM
No sir. Not a simple issue by any means.
Thank you.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 01, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!

With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not.
Additionally, when you factor in the academic component, the advantage that those other schools enjoy only increases.

Just posting this so everyone knows what AndOne's original opinion was before all the cries of "recruiting violation." A prominent player (already at NCC) chose AU over NCC, most likely in part to Don Beebe being the head coach.

Again, according to me: "The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!"
According to AndOne: "With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not."

Just accept your opinion was wrong and move on, AndOne. It's almost football season! No use crying over spilled recruits . . . to Don Beebe at AU  ;)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on August 01, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on August 01, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!

With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not.
Additionally, when you factor in the academic component, the advantage that those other schools enjoy only increases.

Just posting this so everyone knows what AndOne's original opinion was before all the cries of "recruiting violation." A prominent player (already at NCC) chose AU over NCC, most likely in part to Don Beebe being the head coach.

Again, according to me: "The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!"
According to AndOne: "With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not."

Just accept your opinion was wrong and move on, AndOne. It's almost football season! No use crying over spilled recruits . . . to Don Beebe at AU  ;)

Rhythm,

Evidently, in addition to logical thinking, your reading comprehension needs a little work. YOU are the only one here that mentioned "recruiting violation." Go back and read the 3rd paragraph of my post again. This time, pay particular attention to the words I underlined in that paragraph 👀. Despite your failure to answer the questions I posed with regard to the sequence of events in this case, I'm willing to give Beebe the benefit of the doubt.

And yes, there are a multitude of reasons why a kid might choose Aurora over IWU or NCC. However, you need to face the facts and realize that neither better football nor better academics will be making an appearance on that list, Beebe or no Beebe. Those are the facts.

I hope AU has a good season, and assume AU will make the playoffs this year so I'll extend my congratulations in advance.

In closing, I do have one question——Now that AU has become Cam Moore's third school in three years after they completed a major coup and "recruited" him away from NCC——-Why doesn't Moore's name appear on the Spartans just posted 2019 roster list?  Has yet another school "recruited" him away from AU?  ???  ;)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on August 02, 2019, 12:05:22 PM
Quote from: AndOne on August 01, 2019, 04:32:49 PM
Wally & MUC,

I agree 100% that a student-athlete is entitled to enroll at any school to which they can qualify academically. Freedom of choice, right?
However, I'm sure that you will agree that in cases involving a transfer, as opposed to a kid being recruited straight out of HS, that there are certain rules the school doing the "recruiting" has to play by.
Whether we like it or not, the NCAA feels who called/contacted who first or who called/contacted who when is important. That's why they have rules against a school calling or contacting a student-athlete or his family when that student is already attending a different school. Before the student who is playing at school A can be contacted by school B, he first has to inform his current coach/school of his desire/intent to transfer. I'm not sure if he has to name the other school or not, but there is definitely a set routine that has to be followed and a form that has to be signed. Once that's done, school B is free to make contact, and the kid is free to go wherever, as you stated, he can be admitted. The assurance the rules were followed is all I'm looking for.

I'm pretty sure that you would want those rules followed if a kid was playing for Wabash or Mt. Union. I doubt you would be real happy if another school first called or contacted a kid, or one of his family members, playing at your school before your student-athlete informed his coach/school of his desire to transfer and gave his approval for contact by the other school.

As Pat said, it's completely understandable if a kid wants to play for a former pro, especially if he has had some type of previous relationship with the man. However, in this case, Rhythm21 makes it sound like Coach Beebe just swooped in and plucked Cam Moore right out from under NCC's nose with no regard for any of the established rules concerning transfers. What he describes is a situation that could be construed as poaching/tampering by the NCAA. I doubt that was the case. But because of how the situation was described by Rhythm21, it would be nice to have the assurance the rules were followed. That's all. I think you would want that same assurance in the case of a Wabash or Mt. Union player.  :)

Yes, technically there are rules, but I have very little confidence that these rules around release and contact permissions are 1) beneficial to the student athlete in any way, shape, form or fashion and 2) strictly adhered to by pretty much any program that does any kind of significant business with transferring students.  How enforceable is this except in the most egregious and careless of situations?

I would like to believe that students that transfer away from Wabash to go play elsewhere did it the right way (which I guess we'll define here as IAW the NCAA's contact and release rules), but I'm not naive enough to think or believe that somebody transferring away from Wabash never had a conversation with another coach (or coach's designee) before they were technically supposed to.  And I'm not even mad about it.  I'm willing to accept that it happens if it means a student-athlete is at a place that is better for him/her.  I'd be fine to see these rules vanish because all they seem to do is restrict the freedom of a student-athlete in order to protect...coaches?  Teams?  I don't know.  Like I really don't know what the point of these rules are except to seize control of a student's choice. 

This is probably less of a thing in D3 because, I believe, in D3 S-As are allowed to self release.  They don't have to get permission, but they are supposed to file some paperwork saying that they intend to leave to go play somewhere else and are going to engage with other programs.  Even that, IMO, is one more piece of administration that we could all just do without. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: USee on August 02, 2019, 02:13:28 PM
Kids can go anywhere they want in D3. This kid, going from NCC to Aurora, smells fishy at best, regardless of the circumstances.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on August 02, 2019, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: USee on August 02, 2019, 02:13:28 PM
Kids can go anywhere they want in D3. This kid, going from NCC to Aurora, smells fishy at best, regardless of the circumstances.

Kids can go wherever they want in D3, but this one is fishy?  I'm not sure those sentences square. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 02, 2019, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: AndOne on August 01, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
I hope AU has a good season, and assume AU will make the playoffs this year so I'll extend my congratulations in advance.

I assume there would be about seven other schools that would take exception with that assumption. Unless there are things I'm missing that I'll only find out in Kickoff 2019 (cheap plug ;D - but seriously, get it), this season seems like it ought to be even more wide open than the NACC usually is.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: USee on August 02, 2019, 04:37:05 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on August 02, 2019, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: USee on August 02, 2019, 02:13:28 PM
Kids can go anywhere they want in D3. This kid, going from NCC to Aurora, smells fishy at best, regardless of the circumstances.

Kids can go wherever they want in D3, but this one is fishy?  I'm not sure those sentences square.

So preseason is when you want to start this year Wally? Ok. Didn't you attend and graduate from a reputable institution of higher learning? How hard can it be to understand the idea that this transfer is objectively allowed but subjectively could be unethical.  I have no facts here but starting wide receivers for a top 10 school don't usually mysteriously transfer to a program that hasn't done much but MAY be on the rise.  There is a story here we don't know. Maybe the kid's mom teaches at Aurora so tuition is free, maybe Don Beebe is his godfather, or maybe someone whispered in his ear all season about how he wasn't being used at NCC enough, I have no idea, but I am guessing there is more to this than meets the eye. Mostly speculation.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on August 02, 2019, 05:48:10 PM
Also, on a parallel track with USee's "fishy" thoughts, this is something we see a fair amount of on the basketball side which is kids attending multiple schools throughout their college careers spurred by the belief that they are overlooked and are really pro prospects rather than solid D3 level athletes.
They often harbor false beliefs that transferring to another school will increase their visibility. Often their hope is they will eventually end up at a D1 where a pro scout might notice them, or at a lower level school where someone on staff has some connection to the pros. The "fishy" component in the equation is that these type kids are often more concerned with attempting to fulfill their totally unrealistic expectations of reaching the pros than they are with academics. They only do what's minimally necessary to remain eligible in order to continue playing. And, if they can be convinced that transferring to another school will increase their visibility and chance at the pros, however unrealistic, they won't hesitate for one second before transferring.

As far as D3 kids being able to go where they want, this is basically true. However, there ARE minimal rules in place that are supposed to be followed when transferring from one D3 to another. I say "minimal" because not much is required, and kids can "self-release." But, they ARE supposed to first complete a form titled Permission To Contact: Self-Release.

13.1.1.2

An athletics staff member or other representative of the institution's athletic interests shall not make contact in any manner with the student-athlete of another NCAA or NAIA four-year collegiate institution, directly or indirectly, without first obtaining written permission to do do, regardless of who makes the initial contact. If permission is not granted, the second institution shall not encourage the transfer. If permission is granted, all applicable NCAA recruiting rules apply.

* This rule also applies to parents and forbids coaches to contact them as well as their kids.
For instance, before receiving a Self Release Form, a coach from school B can't whisper in the ear of the parents of a student-athlete at school A that if their son transferred to school B, that he (the school B coach) could or might be able to, by using various connections, help the student fulfill his dream of playing in the pros.  ;)

I believe this rule is in place to prevent schools from "poaching" another school's student-athletes.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: ncc_fan on August 04, 2019, 12:00:00 AM
Moore's 2018 receiving stats:
















OpponentRecYdsTDLong
Lake Forest644013
Wash U425015
North Park   41507
Wheaton656021
Augustana571120
Carroll2807
Carthage751014
Elmhurst6122030
Green Weenies675125
Millikin----
Hanover438014
Bethel4106136
Totals54611336
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on August 06, 2019, 09:27:37 AM
I think we're in agreement that one program actively recruiting/poaching is a generally crummy thing to do.  I think that rule is generally unenforceable and relies on the people running the programs to behave honorably.  Or at least not on the blurry edge of the rules.  I definitely don't think the answer would be more rules and restrictions placed on the players under the lame guise of policing coach-to-player communications. 

Find this take and more in my upcoming five part print series Catch and Self-Release: The Cameron Moore Story.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 08, 2019, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: AndOne on August 01, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on August 01, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
Know it's already been discussed, but we got Don Beebe!  :o

Don't get me wrong, Ponx was doing an all right job with the program. Going 5-5 in your 5th year isn't great (And I'd like to think he expected more as well.) Most wins in a season for AU during his tenure: 6 (2016; Co-NACC champions, no playoff appearance.) Apparently the seniors, along with some other Spartans, left the end-of-the-season meeting once they were informed of the school's decision and I respect them for standing behind their coach. But hopefully the FR, SO and JR players stick around long enough to hear Coach Beebe out before they transfer. Otherwise it's looking like a rough transition period is ahead. Fingers crossed it isn't.

The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!

With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not.
Additionally, when you factor in the academic component, the advantage that those other schools enjoy only increases.

Just posting this so everyone knows what AndOne's original opinion was before all the cries of "recruiting violation." A prominent player (already at NCC) chose AU over NCC, most likely in part to Don Beebe being the head coach.

Again, according to me: "The amazing news is, with the name recognition and pedigree, Don Beebe is going to be able to sit across from top IL recruits' living rooms and compete with the likes of North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, etc. Excited to see where my alma mater can go from here with Don Beebe at the helm!"
According to AndOne: "With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not."

Just accept your opinion was wrong and move on, AndOne. It's almost football season! No use crying over spilled recruits . . . to Don Beebe at AU  ;)

Rhythm,

Evidently, in addition to logical thinking, your reading comprehension needs a little work. YOU are the only one here that mentioned "recruiting violation." Go back and read the 3rd paragraph of my post again. This time, pay particular attention to the words I underlined in that paragraph 👀. Despite your failure to answer the questions I posed with regard to the sequence of events in this case, I'm willing to give Beebe the benefit of the doubt.

And yes, there are a multitude of reasons why a kid might choose Aurora over IWU or NCC. However, you need to face the facts and realize that neither better football nor better academics will be making an appearance on that list, Beebe or no Beebe. Those are the facts.

I hope AU has a good season, and assume AU will make the playoffs this year so I'll extend my congratulations in advance.

In closing, I do have one question——Now that AU has become Cam Moore's third school in three years after they completed a major coup and "recruited" him away from NCC——-Why doesn't Moore's name appear on the Spartans just posted 2019 roster list?  Has yet another school "recruited" him away from AU?  ???  ;)

Lol, my logical thinking and reading comprehension are fine, AndOne, trust me. It's your 2-dimensional thinking and absurd idea of what a "fact" is that needs some work (You seriously need to stop using the word fact(s), it's getting a little embarrassing for you.) You originally threw out your opinion without anybody asking for it, which is your right on a chat board. But you've been proven wrong (Cam Moore leaving NCC for AU) quicker and with more certainty than I could've even predicted (Would have been difficult with high school recruits as there is no recruiting site ranking D3 recruits and tracking the schools recruiting them.) You have since spent long posts backpedaling and pivoting from that original opinion, which is a typical tactic for those not skilled in the art of debate.

Despite your one outlined line, here are the cliff-notes of what you said: "I'm not sure how Cam Moore decided on AU (because I confuse my opinion with fact on a regular basis) but if he was recruited away, I just wanna let everyone know that that's against the rules. That's what I'm concerned about, not that I said With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not. and was then totally contradicted when provided with an example a kid literally choosing Aurora University over North Central." It's all misdirection, dude.

Just man up and say, "You know what, turns out I was wrong. Maybe Don Beebe, despite North Central having a better football tradition and a slight edge academically--the only 2 recruiting pitches I seemed to think were important to 18-22 year olds for some reason-- does make Aurora more competitive in recruiting." That's all you need to say, man.

I'll end this post with a little bit of you contradicting yourself, because I'm smart like that  ;D:
"With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not.
Additionally, when you factor in the academic component, the advantage that those other schools enjoy only increases."
Your latest take:
"And yes, there are a multitude of reasons why a kid might choose Aurora over IWU or NCC. However, you need to face the facts and realize that neither better football nor better academics will be making an appearance on that list, Beebe or no Beebe. Those are the facts." (Your misuse of the word facts literally--the real literally-- makes me cringe.)

+ That roster is just returning players, no freshman or transfers, been up for a while now. I guess we'll just have to wait and see when everyone reports to camp  ;)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on August 08, 2019, 06:03:37 PM
Rhythm,

You must be a graduate of the Trump University of Comprehension and Debate. Open your eyes and take in the my complete statement. Yes, I did say there are a number of factors that might make a kid choose AU over NCC (or IWU), but I didn't include either better football or better academics among them.

Football wise—NCC is ranked #5 in the country in the D3Football preseason poll. And AU is...........somewhere over the horizon. Against much stiffer competition, NCC has gone 31-5 over the last 3 seasons and finished 8th, 8th, and 10th in the final national poll over the last 3 years. Aurora?
The stronger football program is where?

Academics wise—I said US News & World Report ranks NCC #13, and AU #123 in the Midwest Regional Universities category. A sizable difference. You rejected that comparison as you scoffed at the criteria that publication uses in it's rankings. You felt Forbes offered more realistic rankings. Working within that theater you advised that Illinois schools range nationally between #18 and #621. You further advised that NCC is #462 by whatever criteria Forbes uses, and that Aurora's ranking is #615. So, by your own statement, AU ranks 615th out of 621. Now that is indeed a ringing endorsement of Aurora's standing!  :D
And the stronger academic program is where?

Looks like it's time you faced the facts, Rhythm. In neither football nor academics does AU compare with NCC.
In light of the above, it makes perfect sense that suddenly, out of the blue, Cam Moore picked up the phone, called Coach Beebe and said "I started this year on the 8th ranked team in the nation, and had a productive season. But, I'd love to put that behind me and transfer to AU despite the facts that AU doesn't compare, either football wise or academically, with where I am now."  ???
Keep on believing Rhythm. Keep on believing.  ::)
Done with this.  :)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Wheaton2668 on August 09, 2019, 01:54:47 PM
Knowing Cam Moore for many years during his youth football days - Cam was a star at Wheaton North his FR season but thought he was overlooked his SO season (as other SO played varsity) so he transferred to Wheaton Warrenville South and sat his JR season but then had a great senior season. Not sure if the same thing (felt he was being overlooked) happened at NCC. I believe there is some previous connection with Cam and Beebe as he trained at Beebe's House of Speed.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 09, 2019, 04:33:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 31, 2019, 09:52:43 PM
I suspect there are probably also people who trained at his speed clinic who already have a relationship with Beebe and might go to play for him under those circumstances.

Quote from: Wheaton2668 on August 09, 2019, 01:54:47 PM
I believe there is some previous connection with Cam and Beebe as he trained at Beebe's House of Speed.

This totally makes sense and makes me wonder if there might not be a few more kids like this who would consider Aurora.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on August 14, 2019, 10:33:20 AM
Monmouth's top WR Jacolby Maxwell has also transferred to AU. He played for Beebe in HS at Aurora Christian.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on August 14, 2019, 02:35:45 PM
So Aurora is the team to be this year?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: fulbakdad on August 18, 2019, 08:57:40 AM
Monmouths 2nd leading receiver.....

https://monmouthscots.com/cumestats.aspx?path=football&year=2017
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on August 21, 2019, 01:36:25 PM
2019 NACC Preseason Poll
1. Eureka (6), 105
1. Aurora (5), 105
3. Lakeland (4), 99
4. Concordia Wisconsin (1), 88
5. Benedictine, 74
6. Wisconsin Lutheran, 38
7. Concordia Chicago, 37
8. Rockford, 30

Per usual, voting was done by head coaches and SIDs on an 8-7-6-etc. scale. First place votes are in parentheses - I don't remember them having been split between four different teams before.

ETA: Apparently, I have a pretty short memory. ;D
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ronald Reagan on August 21, 2019, 01:46:11 PM
The loss of LeAnthony will sting, but Coach Barth has some dogs this year...AND THEY HUNGRY.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 23, 2019, 04:09:50 PM
It will be an interesting conference title chase for sure this year. Not a whole lot of separation from the top half of the league.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 31, 2019, 03:35:22 AM
 ::)  Just in case other people were wondering if AndOne was pivoting his argument to something that wasn't being argued, here it is again:

AndOne's orginal argument:
"With all due respect to AU, I sincerely doubt whether they will present much of a challenge recruiting wise when competing for kids also considering NCC, IWU, etc., Don Beebe or not.
Additionally, when you factor in the academic component, the advantage that those other schools enjoy only increases."

AndOne's "I'm gonna backpedal like Deion Sanders and pretend I wasn't proven wrong almost immediately" argument:
"And yes, there are a multitude of reasons why a kid might choose Aurora over IWU or NCC. However, you need to face the facts and realize that neither better football nor better academics will be making an appearance on that list, Beebe or no Beebe. Those are the facts."

Judging from his comment bringing up Trump (What far leftists go to when they are made to look not-so-intelligent; I'm centrist libertarian in case that mattered at all), I assume he relies on CNN to get his news. Which does explain why he doesn't understand what a "fact" is, hahaha.

Anyway, Aurora just released its official 2019 roster (no jersey numbers yet.) Really hoping they live up to the number 1 (tied with Eureka) spot in the pre-season polls. Interested to see what the offense looks like against St. Norbert week 1.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 06, 2019, 01:40:21 PM
One score from last night to get the season underway:

Lake Forest 27
Wisconsin Lutheran 15

The other seven teams all open on Saturday - four in the afternoon and three in the evening.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 08, 2019, 08:47:17 AM
NACC conference members won their fair share of games in their openers this past weekend winning six of eight, so I perused some of the conference coaches' polls to try to get some perspective on the opponents. I tried to rank the following results based on my perceived strength of the NACC teams' opponents (I'm sure this is a fools' errand since it's never comparing apples to apples when figuring out relative team strength from conference to conference.)

Aurora over St. Norbert. St. Norbert was picked to win the Midwest North. (Aurora putting up 50 on the Green Knights was impressive.)

Benedictine over Franklin. Franklin was picked second in the Heartland. (Benedictine was fortunate to receive four Franklin turnovers including one late with Franklin in the lead allowing Bennie to score the winning TD.)

Carroll over Lakeland. Carroll was picked ninth in the CCIW. (I think the CCIW is far superior to all the other conferences of these opponents.)

Lake Forest over Wisconsin Lutheran. Lake Forest was picked third in the Midwest North. 

Rockford over MacMurray. MacMurray was picked to finish third in the Upper Midwest. (Not sure how strong the Upper Midwest is but this looks pretty good for Rockford.)

Eureka over Knox. Knox was picked fourth in the Midwest South.

Concordia Chicago over Beloit. Beloit was picked sixth (last) in the Midwest North. (Beloit's going to struggle this year.)

Concordia Wisconsin over Finlandia. Finlandia was picked eighth (last) in the Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association. (A trip to Hancock in the fall could either afford gorgeous colors or a foot of snow. That's all I've got for Finlandia.) 




Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 08, 2019, 09:51:18 AM
Wait a 6-2 slate for the NACC? Whoa didn't see that one coming.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on September 09, 2019, 04:24:18 PM
A very impressive start for Aurora with an upset over favored SNC.
But where was Aurora transfer receiver Cam Moore who Coach Don Beebe is in the process of turning into a future pro? 🤷🏻‍♂️
The Participation Report doesn't show him as having seen the field let alone catching any of AU's 33 completed passes  ???
Has he moved on to his fourth college!? 🐡
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: hopefan on September 09, 2019, 05:44:14 PM
Curious... 5 schools from the SLIAC play Football... 4 of them are in the UMAC (Westminster, MacMurray, Greenville, Iowa Wesleyan)... one, Eureka, is in the NACC..

The NACC makes so much more sense travel wise... Eureka moved from the UMAC to the NACC 2 years ago... Did any of the other four schools consider it, or compete for a spot?  Was only one spot available?   Will the NACC consider adding more SLIAC teams in the future, or is the membership for football full?  I am a basketball guy, thought all 5 schools were UMAC, just realized that Eureka was NACC... pleased to see Eureka is tied for No 1 with Aurora in preseason poll in NACC.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on September 09, 2019, 05:56:49 PM
Quote from: AndOne on September 09, 2019, 04:24:18 PM
A very impressive start for Aurora with an upset over favored SNC.
But where was Aurora transfer receiver Cam Moore who Coach Don Beebe is in the process of turning into a future pro? 🤷🏻‍♂️
The Participation Report doesn't show him as having seen the field let alone catching any of AU's 33 completed passes  ???
Has he moved on to his fourth college!? 🐡

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Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2019, 06:27:21 PM
Quote from: AndOne on September 09, 2019, 04:24:18 PM
A very impressive start for Aurora with an upset over favored SNC.
But where was Aurora transfer receiver Cam Moore who Coach Don Beebe is in the process of turning into a future pro? 🤷🏻‍♂️
The Participation Report doesn't show him as having seen the field let alone catching any of AU's 33 completed passes  ???
Has he moved on to his fourth college!? 🐡

Serious trolling. Spare us.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: USee on September 09, 2019, 06:36:54 PM
Serious trolling? How about a serious question. I had the same one. He didn't play. Does he have to sit out a year? If that's serious trolling the standard has gone way down.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2019, 06:58:35 PM
You asked the question without the same baggage, though, or the three emoji. Tone and a poster's history go a long way toward evaluating a poster's intent, for sure.

If he was eligible at North Central, and I have no reason to believe he wasn't, then he does not have to sit out at Aurora. Perhaps injured.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 09, 2019, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: hopefan on September 09, 2019, 05:44:14 PM
Curious... 5 schools from the SLIAC play Football... 4 of them are in the UMAC (Westminster, MacMurray, Greenville, Iowa Wesleyan)... one, Eureka, is in the NACC..

The NACC makes so much more sense travel wise... Eureka moved from the UMAC to the NACC 2 years ago... Did any of the other four schools consider it, or compete for a spot?  Was only one spot available?   Will the NACC consider adding more SLIAC teams in the future, or is the membership for football full?  I am a basketball guy, thought all 5 schools were UMAC, just realized that Eureka was NACC... pleased to see Eureka is tied for No 1 with Aurora in preseason poll in NACC.

It would seem to make sense for the SLIAC teams to want to get into the NACC for football, but if I remember correctly the NACC was down to seven teams (the minimum for NCAA automatic playoff consideration) after Maranatha dropped football and with talk of Benedictine leaving for DII there may have been a perceived need for one more team for the NACC but perhaps no more. I haven't done any Google Map projections but I think that Eureka is the closest of the SLIAC football playing schools to the NACC base of northern Illinois and Wisconsin.  It might not be that no other SLIAC schools want to join the NACC but that the NACC was not looking for other teams. (Although they did just accept St. Norbert.) If I remember correctly, Eureka has background with some of the NACC schools as I think they were members of the Illini-Badger Conference in the way-back.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Look It Up on September 09, 2019, 07:31:16 PM
Good memory, RFMichigan. Eureka was in the Illini-Badger until 2008, when the NACC started sponsoring football and took Aurora, Benedictine, CUC, CUW and Lakeland with them.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on September 09, 2019, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2019, 06:58:35 PM
You asked the question without the same baggage, though, or the three emoji. Tone and a poster's history go a long way toward evaluating a poster's intent, for sure.

If he was eligible at North Central, and I have no reason to believe he wasn't, then he does not have to sit out at Aurora. Perhaps injured.

Yes, perhaps injured.
While I did hear things that thoroughly validate my "tone" and use of emojis, I can say I never heard anything about any eligibility issues when he attended NCC.

I wonder also if there is some type of required paperwork that hasn't yet either been completed or recorded. This could be an internal Aurora requirement of some sort and not NCAA related.

But, if he is eligible, the question certainly still remains open.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 10, 2019, 05:56:12 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 09, 2019, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: hopefan on September 09, 2019, 05:44:14 PM
Curious... 5 schools from the SLIAC play Football... 4 of them are in the UMAC (Westminster, MacMurray, Greenville, Iowa Wesleyan)... one, Eureka, is in the NACC..

The NACC makes so much more sense travel wise... Eureka moved from the UMAC to the NACC 2 years ago... Did any of the other four schools consider it, or compete for a spot?  Was only one spot available?   Will the NACC consider adding more SLIAC teams in the future, or is the membership for football full?  I am a basketball guy, thought all 5 schools were UMAC, just realized that Eureka was NACC... pleased to see Eureka is tied for No 1 with Aurora in preseason poll in NACC.

It would seem to make sense for the SLIAC teams to want to get into the NACC for football, but if I remember correctly the NACC was down to seven teams (the minimum for NCAA automatic playoff consideration) after Maranatha dropped football and with talk of Benedictine leaving for DII there may have been a perceived need for one more team for the NACC but perhaps no more. I haven't done any Google Map projections but I think that Eureka is the closest of the SLIAC football playing schools to the NACC base of northern Illinois and Wisconsin.  It might not be that no other SLIAC schools want to join the NACC but that the NACC was not looking for other teams. (Although they did just accept St. Norbert.) If I remember correctly, Eureka has background with some of the NACC schools as I think they were members of the Illini-Badger Conference in the way-back.

Quote from: Look It Up on September 09, 2019, 07:31:16 PM
Good memory, RFMichigan. Eureka was in the Illini-Badger until 2008, when the NACC started sponsoring football and took Aurora, Benedictine, CUC, CUW and Lakeland with them.

Greenville and MacMurray were also members of the IBFC. RFMichigan pretty much has the timeline correct - the NACC would have been down to 6 football schools had Benedictine gone to D2. St. Norbert is joining the conference for all sports so they're a different case - they'll put the league at 9 for football once they do (and 13/14 for most other sports).

Speaking of the Green Knights, did not expect Aurora to hang 50 on them.

hopefan, not only is Eureka tied for #1 in the preseason poll, they are also the defending champions!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 10, 2019, 06:40:46 PM
Speaking of Eureka, as some of us were having a discussion about the huge attendance for the WW game this past weekend, it was great to see that Eureka had 4443 for their game at their stadium.  As Ryan S alluded to, it will be interesting the upcoming Eureka/Albion game.  BTW, Albion had 4632 for their home attendance at their game last weekend and that was against Defiance.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2019, 10:13:06 PM
Quote from: AndOne on September 09, 2019, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2019, 06:58:35 PM
You asked the question without the same baggage, though, or the three emoji. Tone and a poster's history go a long way toward evaluating a poster's intent, for sure.

If he was eligible at North Central, and I have no reason to believe he wasn't, then he does not have to sit out at Aurora. Perhaps injured.

Yes, perhaps injured.

Indeed injured, I have it on good authority.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: AndOne on September 13, 2019, 02:12:35 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2019, 10:13:06 PM
Quote from: AndOne on September 09, 2019, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2019, 06:58:35 PM
You asked the question without the same baggage, though, or the three emoji. Tone and a poster's history go a long way toward evaluating a poster's intent, for sure.

If he was eligible at North Central, and I have no reason to believe he wasn't, then he does not have to sit out at Aurora. Perhaps injured.

Yes, perhaps injured.

Indeed injured, I have it on good authority.

Broken ankle it seems.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 16, 2019, 12:25:47 PM
Week Two scores:

Wisconsin Lutheran 14 (0-2)
Lawrence Tech 34

Olivet 54
Concordia Chicago 24 (1-1)

Concordia Wisconsin 31 (2-0)
Augsburg 0

Rockford 20 (1-1)
Martin Luther 34

Aurora 48 (2-0)
Elmhurst 22

Benedictine 14 (1-1)
Loras 42

MacMurray 24
Eureka 41 (2-0)

3-4 this week, with Lakeland being the only team who will play in Week 4 instead. Next week, everyone heads across and/or around the pond - if you're planning to watch on stream, remember many of these will be noon Central kickoffs.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 16, 2019, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on September 16, 2019, 12:25:47 PM
Here are some uninformed comments on the NACC non-conference opponents this week:
Week Two scores:

Wisconsin Lutheran 14 (0-2)
Lawrence Tech 34
Lawrence Tech has a pretty new program - only two years in existence - and is comprised of mostly freshmen and sophomores. However they are an NAIA school so I assume they grant scholarships, but I don't think they'll win another game this season. 

Olivet 54
Concordia Chicago 24 (1-1)
It was competitive until CUC roughed the Olivet punter on a fourth and 20 or so and down only 12-10. Instead of getting the ball back in good field position with momentum, CUC proceeded to give up 28 points in about six minutes and that was all she wrote. I think Olivet is going to be a tough out in the MIAA. They controlled the line of scrimmage convincingly against CUC.

Concordia Wisconsin 31 (2-0)
Augsburg 0
Although Augsburg isn't great this was one on their wins last year. A shutout from CUW looks pretty good.

Rockford 20 (1-1)
Martin Luther 34
Hard to tell how this reflects on Rockford. Martin Luther won the UMAC last year and then had St. John put up 80+ on them in the playoffs. I think that Rockford may be improved somewhat from last year but it may not be reflected in the standings this year.

Aurora 48 (2-0)
Elmhurst 22
Beating a CCIW team is usually an indicator of some talent even if Elmhurst may struggle in conference this year.

Benedictine 14 (1-1)
Loras 42
Ouch. I'm thinking that Loras will be decent this year but that can't be good for Benedictine.


MacMurray 24
Eureka 41 (2-0)
The Red Devils gave up a lot of yards passing. Again, MacMurray was picked rather highly in the UMAC South, so I think this is "ask again later".


3-4 this week, with Lakeland being the only team who will play in Week 4 instead. Next week, everyone heads across and/or around the pond - if you're planning to watch on stream, remember many of these will be noon Central kickoffs.


Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 20, 2019, 11:39:20 AM
I am really curious about the Aurora - Hope contest on Saturday. (Perhaps curious enough to drive across the state to watch it.) I really think that Aurora will give Hope a good test.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 20, 2019, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on September 20, 2019, 11:39:20 AM
I am really curious about the Aurora - Hope contest on Saturday. (Perhaps curious enough to drive across the state to watch it.) I really think that Aurora will give Hope a good test.

I agree that Aurora, at least based on the team's performance so far this year and new attitude/atmosphere with the new coach and staff,  is not going to be a push-over perhaps as they may have been in the past.  Hope better bring their "A" game tomorrow or I think as one my fellow Hope posters on our board mentioned, there may be some concern going in to Hope's MIAA season schedule. 

I am praying for the great weather we've had (and had at last Saturday's game) continues for tomorrow.  So far, the extended weather report (prediction) is good for that. Anyway, drive safe RFMichigan if you decide to make the trip in returning to your "home" state, as I recall!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 21, 2019, 11:10:27 PM
Even though they only won two games in the crossover with the MIAA, I thought that the NACC gave a decent showing for themselves. Aurora, Eureka, CUW, WLC, and Benedictine were competitive in their losses with Aurora and WLC really being playing the woulda-coulda-shoulda game.  Only Lakeland in action next week before league play begins in two weeks.

With the non-conference schedule nearly completed it still looks as though Aurora and Eureka are the class of the conference although CUW, Lakeland, and Benedictine may have a say in it.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on September 22, 2019, 01:49:15 AM
To be specific:

Concordia Wisconsin 16 (2-1)
(ARV) Trine 21

(ARV) Aurora 32 (2-1)
Hope 34

Eureka 41 (2-1)
Albion 56

Lakeland 28 (1-1)
Kalamazoo 7

Concordia Chicago 23 (2-1)
Finlandia 12

Rockford 16 (1-2)
Alma 51

Benedictine 6 (1-2)
Olivet 21

Wisconsin Lutheran 29 (0-3)
Adrian 32 (2 OT)

It was an encouraging performance by Lakeland today, as they took control in the 2nd half after both teams left chances wanting before the break. Platteville will surely be a stiff test next week - interested to see how the Muskies handle it.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 01, 2019, 11:51:10 AM
Week Four:

(ARV) UW-Platteville 55
Lakeland 28 (1-2)

Pleasantly surprised with how the Muskies looked on offense, especially with Wilson making his first career start behind center. There were some freshman mistakes but also some very encouraging signs. On defense...well, not so much.

Next week, it begins for really real.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 05, 2019, 10:27:23 PM
Week Five:

Wisconsin Lutheran 27 (1-0, 1-3)
Rockford 13 (0-1, 1-3)

Lakeland 26 (0-1, 1-3)
Concordia Chicago 31 (1-0, 3-1)

Eureka 35 (0-1, 2-2)
Aurora 62 (1-0, 3-1)

Benedictine 27 (1-0, 2-2)
Concordia Wisconsin 21 (OT) (0-1, 2-2)

It was the 3rd quarter that did the Muskies in - taking a 1 point game at halftime to an 18 point game in the opening minute of the 4th, which proved to be too big a hill to climb. But credit needs to be given to CUC, who appears to be this year's team to defy their preseason expectations like CUW did last year.

Was not expecting the Cheese Bowl next week to be a virtual must-win for both of those teams already. But you just never know in the NACC.

Elsewhere, Aurora (re?)establishes themselves as the conference favorites, Benedictine has Williams carry them to victory in overtime (5 rushes, no passes on the winning drive), and WLC opens their account in the win column.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 13, 2019, 11:50:07 PM
Week Six:

Concordia Chicago 27 (1-1, 3-2)
Aurora 63 (2-0, 4-1)

Rockford 13 (0-2, 1-4)
Benedictine 48 (2-0, 3-2)

Eureka 26 (1-1, 3-2)
Wisconsin Lutheran 20 (OT) (1-1, 1-4)

Concordia Wisconsin 0 (0-2, 2-3)
Lakeland 44 (1-1, 2-3)

Didn't get to see the game this week as I was traveling, but a total beatdown to regain the Cheese Bowl is not what I was expecting. Not complaining though! CUW was expected to contend this year, and two losses have all but buried those hopes, while Eureka needed overtime to avoid the same fate.

Next week, the Spartans and Eagles both hit the road as they look to remain unbeaten in conference play.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on October 14, 2019, 11:26:48 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on October 13, 2019, 11:50:07 PM
Week Six:

Concordia Chicago 27 (1-1, 3-2)
Aurora 63 (2-0, 4-1)

Rockford 13 (0-2, 1-4)
Benedictine 48 (2-0, 3-2)

Eureka 26 (1-1, 3-2)
Wisconsin Lutheran 20 (OT) (1-1, 1-4)

Concordia Wisconsin 0 (0-2, 2-3)
Lakeland 44 (1-1, 2-3)

Didn't get to see the game this week as I was traveling, but a total beatdown to regain the Cheese Bowl is not what I was expecting. Not complaining though! CUW was expected to contend this year, and two losses have all but buried those hopes, while Eureka needed overtime to avoid the same fate.

Next week, the Spartans and Eagles both hit the road as they look to remain unbeaten in conference play.

I think this is a one-horse race: Aurora. The middle tier of the NACC (and by that I mean "everybody except the clear superior team") is always so hard to predict. Lakeland getting beat by CUC an then throwing a shutout vs. CUW? Eureka needing OT vs. WLC? I'm not sold on Benedictine but you never know. I think that literally five teams have a legitimate shot at second place although I think that Benedictine and Eureka are slightly better than the rest, but we'll see how it plays out.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 20, 2019, 12:33:09 AM
Week Seven:

Aurora 24 (3-0, 5-1)
Concordia Wisconsin 7 (0-3, 2-4)

Benedictine 27 (3-0, 4-2)
Wisconsin Lutheran 3 (1-2, 1-5)

Concordia Chicago 35 (2-1, 4-2)
Eureka 34 (1-2, 3-3)

Lakeland 76 (2-1, 3-3)
Rockford 21 (0-3, 1-5)

There will almost certainly be a new champion in the NACC this year as the title holders were unable to hold a 20 point lead against CUC, with Moise scoring the go ahead TD with only 15 seconds left. Even after that, the Red Devils got into Hail Mary range but were ruled to be out of time, much to the displeasure of the EC announce team. The Cougars are now one win away from clinching their first .500 or better season since 2012.

Also, no that Lakeland score is not a typo, but it is a new school record.

Next week, the top four teams in the standings host the bottom four, highlighted by Benedictine facing off with Eureka.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 22, 2019, 11:46:26 AM
Ah the Lonnie Pries era for CUC. Back then those CUC teams were a beast on offense. Shame they came oh so close to beating Bethel at home in the first round of the postseason in 2012.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on October 27, 2019, 05:59:46 PM
Week Eight:

Rockford 14 (0-4, 1-6)
Aurora 56 (4-0, 6-1)

Eureka 14 (1-3, 3-4)
Benedictine 17 (4-0, 5-2)

Wisconsin Lutheran 6 (1-3, 1-6)
Lakeland 39 (3-1, 4-3)

Concordia Wisconsin 34 (1-3, 3-4)
Concordia Chicago 15 (2-2, 4-3)

Aurora clears another hurdle easily - and the Regents have now allowed 180 points in their last three games, ouch. But they still have plenty of work left to do, as they host Benedictine next week and travel to Lakeland for the regular season finale which could be for all the marbles.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 03, 2019, 05:32:20 PM
Week Nine:

Benedictine 25 (4-1, 5-3)
Aurora 27 (5-0, 7-1)

Lakeland 49 (3-2, 4-4)
Eureka 50 (2-3, 4-4)

Wisconsin Lutheran 17 (2-3, 2-6)
Concordia Chicago 14 (2-3, 4-4)

Rockford 27 (0-5, 1-7)
Concordia Wisconsin 41 (2-3, 4-4)

That should just about do it. Aurora held on to win the battle of undefeated teams, intercepting a game tying 2 point conversion after the Eagles had scored 2 TDs in the final 2 1/2 minutes to nearly force overtime. Combined with Lakeland's road loss, the Spartans only need one win in their last two games to clinch the NACC's playoff berth. They can get it at Wisconsin Lutheran next week.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 11, 2019, 10:56:21 PM
Week Ten:

Aurora 62 (6-0, 8-1)
Wisconsin Lutheran 7 (2-4, 2-7)

Lakeland 26 (3-3, 4-5)
Benedictine 34 (5-1, 6-3)

Concordia Wisconsin 0 (2-4, 4-5)
Eureka 24 (3-3, 5-4)

Concordia Chicago 28 (3-3, 5-4)
Rockford 25 (0-6, 1-8)

Aurora left little doubt all season that they were the team to beat in the NACC, and they left no doubt on Saturday to clinch their first trip to the NCAA Playoffs in 11 years! Congratulations to the Spartans! They've scored at least 56 points in four of their six conference games this far.

Next week, Aurora gets ready for the playoffs against Lakeland, where they can wrap up the outright NACC title with a win; Benedictine will hope they leave the door open for a share of the championship, while everyone will try to send their seniors out on a high note.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 16, 2019, 01:35:20 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 11, 2019, 10:56:21 PM
Week Ten:

Aurora 62 (6-0, 8-1)
Wisconsin Lutheran 7 (2-4, 2-7)

Lakeland 26 (3-3, 4-5)
Benedictine 34 (5-1, 6-3)

Concordia Wisconsin 0 (2-4, 4-5)
Eureka 24 (3-3, 5-4)

Concordia Chicago 28 (3-3, 5-4)
Rockford 25 (0-6, 1-8)

Aurora left little doubt all season that they were the team to beat in the NACC, and they left no doubt on Saturday to clinch their first trip to the NCAA Playoffs in 11 years! Congratulations to the Spartans! They've scored at least 56 points in four of their six conference games this far.

Next week, Aurora gets ready for the playoffs against Lakeland, where they can wrap up the outright NACC title with a win; Benedictine will hope they leave the door open for a share of the championship, while everyone will try to send their seniors out on a high note.

Lakeland so help me god if you upset another undefeated NACC team with a possibility of getting a decent playoff matchup I will dump you into Lake Michigan.  >:(
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 16, 2019, 08:24:24 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 16, 2019, 01:35:20 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 11, 2019, 10:56:21 PM
Week Ten:

Aurora 62 (6-0, 8-1)
Wisconsin Lutheran 7 (2-4, 2-7)

Lakeland 26 (3-3, 4-5)
Benedictine 34 (5-1, 6-3)

Concordia Wisconsin 0 (2-4, 4-5)
Eureka 24 (3-3, 5-4)

Concordia Chicago 28 (3-3, 5-4)
Rockford 25 (0-6, 1-8)

Aurora left little doubt all season that they were the team to beat in the NACC, and they left no doubt on Saturday to clinch their first trip to the NCAA Playoffs in 11 years! Congratulations to the Spartans! They've scored at least 56 points in four of their six conference games this far.

Next week, Aurora gets ready for the playoffs against Lakeland, where they can wrap up the outright NACC title with a win; Benedictine will hope they leave the door open for a share of the championship, while everyone will try to send their seniors out on a high note.

Lakeland so help me god if you upset another undefeated NACC team with a possibility of getting a decent playoff matchup I will dump you into Lake Michigan.  >:(
Lakeland is a solid team and Aurora has already clinching the NCAA bid, but I think that Aurora is too strong and has the motivation of an undefeated conference season; I don't think that Coach Beebe will allow them to suffer a letdown.

Hope all the seniors have a successful sendoff and everybody is injury-free today.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 16, 2019, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: RFMichigan on November 16, 2019, 08:24:24 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 16, 2019, 01:35:20 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 11, 2019, 10:56:21 PM
Week Ten:

Aurora 62 (6-0, 8-1)
Wisconsin Lutheran 7 (2-4, 2-7)

Lakeland 26 (3-3, 4-5)
Benedictine 34 (5-1, 6-3)

Concordia Wisconsin 0 (2-4, 4-5)
Eureka 24 (3-3, 5-4)

Concordia Chicago 28 (3-3, 5-4)
Rockford 25 (0-6, 1-8)

Aurora left little doubt all season that they were the team to beat in the NACC, and they left no doubt on Saturday to clinch their first trip to the NCAA Playoffs in 11 years! Congratulations to the Spartans! They've scored at least 56 points in four of their six conference games this far.

Next week, Aurora gets ready for the playoffs against Lakeland, where they can wrap up the outright NACC title with a win; Benedictine will hope they leave the door open for a share of the championship, while everyone will try to send their seniors out on a high note.

Lakeland so help me god if you upset another undefeated NACC team with a possibility of getting a decent playoff matchup I will dump you into Lake Michigan.  >:(
Lakeland is a solid team and Aurora has already clinching the NCAA bid, but I think that Aurora is too strong and has the motivation of an undefeated conference season; I don't think that Coach Beebe will allow them to suffer a letdown.

Hope all the seniors have a successful sendoff and everybody is injury-free today.

Hope so. Here's to my alma mater reclaiming back the Luther Cup from CUW this Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 16, 2019, 08:38:59 PM
Halftime

Aurora 49
Lakeland 7
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 16, 2019, 11:58:27 PM
Conference Scores

Eureka 38
Rockford 28

Concordia Wisconsin 28
Wisconsin Lutheran 21

Aurora 70
Lakeland 14

Benedictine 44
Rockford 0

Final Regular Season Standings

1. ORV Aurora 9-1 (7-0)
2. Benedictine 7-3 (6-1)
3. Eureka 6-4 (4-3)
4. Concordia Chicago 5-5 (3-4)
5. Concordia Wisconsin 5-5 (3-4)
6. Lakeland 4-6 (3-4)
7. Wisconsin Lutheran 2-8 (2-5)
8. Rockford 1-9 (0-8)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 17, 2019, 11:15:11 PM
Hey, there, Aurora!  Welcome to Collegeville.  We hope you have a great trip and a good time.

From what I hear it is air attack from Illinois.  Well, the ball will be getting slung with gusto on Saturday then.  Let's hope hope for great football weather.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 17, 2019, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on November 17, 2019, 11:15:11 PM
Hey, there, Aurora!  Welcome to Collegeville.  We hope you have a great trip and a good time.

From what I hear it is air attack from Illinois.  Well, the ball will be getting slung with gusto on Saturday then.  Let's hope hope for great football weather.

Concur on that one. Don Beebe did a heck of a job in his first year there. Gavin Zimbelman threw for 51 TD's which blew away the previous single season record for TD's. AU must be kicking themselves by dropping a heartbreaker to Hope in the NACC-MIAA Challenge. They could've been hosting possibly.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2019, 11:22:01 AM
We like to think that we have an OK QB, too.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on November 18, 2019, 06:03:31 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 16, 2019, 01:35:20 AM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on November 11, 2019, 10:56:21 PM
Week Ten:

Aurora 62 (6-0, 8-1)
Wisconsin Lutheran 7 (2-4, 2-7)

Lakeland 26 (3-3, 4-5)
Benedictine 34 (5-1, 6-3)

Concordia Wisconsin 0 (2-4, 4-5)
Eureka 24 (3-3, 5-4)

Concordia Chicago 28 (3-3, 5-4)
Rockford 25 (0-6, 1-8)

Aurora left little doubt all season that they were the team to beat in the NACC, and they left no doubt on Saturday to clinch their first trip to the NCAA Playoffs in 11 years! Congratulations to the Spartans! They've scored at least 56 points in four of their six conference games this far.

Next week, Aurora gets ready for the playoffs against Lakeland, where they can wrap up the outright NACC title with a win; Benedictine will hope they leave the door open for a share of the championship, while everyone will try to send their seniors out on a high note.

Lakeland so help me god if you upset another undefeated NACC team with a possibility of getting a decent playoff matchup I will dump you into Lake Michigan.  >:(

That wouldn't have been very nice. I'm sure you know how cold Lake Michigan gets this time of year!

But alas, that would have required us to actually stop Aurora at some point. Which, well...that didn't happen.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 19, 2019, 01:45:10 PM
Are there no Aurora fans here?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2019, 01:46:29 PM
Eh....There are, but their appearances can be few and far between.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2019, 02:05:00 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 19, 2019, 01:45:10 PM
Are there no Aurora fans here?

Aurora fan here. Sorry, have tried staying off the message boards as much as possible during the season, didn't want to jinx us! Been over a decade since we've seen the playoffs in Aurora, very excited to be back. Should be a fun game, dubbing it the "The 2019 Best Air Show on Turf" with Erdmann and Zimbelman and the Johnnies and Spartans offenses going at it.

Our conference has only really been competitive in one playoff matchup in its short existence and that was 2012 Concordia Chicago and their explosive offense at the time coming up short on a 2-point conversion at the end versus a talented Bethel squad. Hoping we can show the current MIAC champions a good show and maybe have a chance late. Gonna be a fun Saturday. Leggo AU!!!
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Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2019, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on November 17, 2019, 11:15:11 PM
Hey, there, Aurora!  Welcome to Collegeville.  We hope you have a great trip and a good time.

From what I hear it is air attack from Illinois.  Well, the ball will be getting slung with gusto on Saturday then.  Let's hope hope for great football weather.

Should be a fun game to watch. Your Johnnies have the size, but I'm hoping for this scrappy AU team to find some way to compete, maybe defense comes up with a few big plays, but with your Gagliardi Trophy winning QB, it's gonna be tough haha. Here's to good weather and competitive football from both sides!
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Post by: DuffMan on November 19, 2019, 02:16:47 PM
Are you coming to Collegeville, Rhythm21?

I agree it will be a fun game.  I hope the weather cooperates.  As of now, it looks as good as one can hope for in mid-November.
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Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2019, 02:31:54 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 19, 2019, 02:16:47 PM
Are you coming to Collegeville, Rhythm21?

I agree it will be a fun game.  I hope the weather cooperates.  As of now, it looks as good as one can hope for in mid-November.

Unfortunately, I will not be able to experience Collegeville in person this time. But fortunately, it is because I will be in Vegas this coming Saturday. The plan is to be by the pool and streaming the game. And there might be a strong possibility that I'm getting kicked out of the pool area due to my over-the-top reactions to plays/calls during the game. But I will be there in spirit and be watching it from pregame before kickoff until the teams shake hands after it's finished, no matter what the score is. This week can't fly by quick enough.
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Post by: DuffMan on November 19, 2019, 06:04:32 PM
I leave this here for the Aurora fan(s).

SJU hype video. (https://youtu.be/II29Qq3rBjc)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2019, 06:29:43 PM
And I would be doing a disservice if I did not congratulate Aurora University's #55 Jackson Nazos, #63 Mike Marek, #64 BoDee Steber, #67 Tyler Owens and #75 Grant Palmer on an outstanding job this season controlling the line of scrimmage and giving Zimbelman the time to read defenses and pick them apart, as well as opening lanes for the electric Tyran Bailey to run wild through. Here's to the best offensive line in the NACC in 2019. Keep doing what you've been doing!
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Post by: Gestekoe on November 20, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2019, 02:05:00 PM
Our conference has only really been competitive in one playoff matchup in its short existence and that was 2012 Concordia Chicago and their explosive offense at the time coming up short on a 2-point conversion at the end versus a talented Bethel squad. Hoping we can show the current MIAC champions a good show and maybe have a chance late. Gonna be a fun Saturday. Leggo AU!!!

I agree, this is the closest the NACC/NATHC/IBFC have come to winning a playoff game.  BUT....You are actually forgetting about Aurora back in 2004 when they gave Wooster a run for their money in the first round.  Tony Sutton ran for like 200+ yards and 5 TDs (I mean he did this to everyone that year), yet Aurora still hung in there until the end.  Other then those two, it's been blowouts I believe every other year.

Trust me, I want very much for the NACC to get our first playoff win like everyone else here.  But I don't know, when you leave the NACC it's a whole different animal talent wise.  Aurora may put up some points, but don't think they will be able to keep up with the Johnnies.  I could see this being maybe a 65-32, 63-41 type game.  Again, Aurora putting up some points, but just not enough.  I hope I am wrong, but we've been through this before too many times.

I could see Zimbelmans arm falling off at the end of the game.  500-600 yards and he will have a WR with over 200 yards and a few TDs at the end of the day.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 20, 2019, 09:42:19 AM
Unless the Aurora D is pretty porous, I don't envision the Johnnies putting up 60 on them.  I also don't see Aurora putting up 30+ on a pretty stiff Johnnie defense.  If the Johnnies come out slow (and they have multiple times this season), I think it'll be a pretty good game.  If the Johnnies come out like they did versus Bethel and U$T, they'll win by 3 scores.
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Post by: repete on November 20, 2019, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 20, 2019, 09:42:19 AM
Unless the Aurora D is pretty porous, I don't envision the Johnnies putting up 60 on them.  I also don't see Aurora putting up 30+ on a pretty stiff Johnnie defense.  If the Johnnies come out slow (and they have multiple times this season), I think it'll be a pretty good game.  If the Johnnies come out like they did versus Bethel and U$T, they'll win by 3 scores.

QB plays with a lot of confidence, can get the ball out quickly when he needs and seems to see the field well from the few clips I've seen. Tough to tell about the defense, but if SJU gets up on them, I'd  expect to see a lot of Kai, Henry T. and and Ken U.
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Post by: DuffMan on November 20, 2019, 04:08:21 PM
SJU Game Notes (https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/gojohnnies.com/documents/2019/11/20/112319_AuroraNCAA_GameNotes.pdf)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 20, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Man, it's lively over here.  Spartans?  Hello?

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Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 21, 2019, 05:59:48 PM
Quote from: Gestekoe on November 20, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2019, 02:05:00 PM
Our conference has only really been competitive in one playoff matchup in its short existence and that was 2012 Concordia Chicago and their explosive offense at the time coming up short on a 2-point conversion at the end versus a talented Bethel squad. Hoping we can show the current MIAC champions a good show and maybe have a chance late. Gonna be a fun Saturday. Leggo AU!!!

I agree, this is the closest the NACC/NATHC/IBFC have come to winning a playoff game.  BUT....You are actually forgetting about Aurora back in 2004 when they gave Wooster a run for their money in the first round.  Tony Sutton ran for like 200+ yards and 5 TDs (I mean he did this to everyone that year), yet Aurora still hung in there until the end.  Other then those two, it's been blowouts I believe every other year.

Trust me, I want very much for the NACC to get our first playoff win like everyone else here.  But I don't know, when you leave the NACC it's a whole different animal talent wise.  Aurora may put up some points, but don't think they will be able to keep up with the Johnnies.  I could see this being maybe a 65-32, 63-41 type game.  Again, Aurora putting up some points, but just not enough.  I hope I am wrong, but we've been through this before too many times.

I could see Zimbelmans arm falling off at the end of the game.  500-600 yards and he will have a WR with over 200 yards and a few TDs at the end of the day.

You're right, you're right. 04 AU squad gets slept on too often. I was only thinking since 08, NathCon/NACC. But I'm anxious to see how our open offense does against the Johnnie's secondary. If Zimbelman comes out wi tut h ice water in his veins, we will have a ball game. If we start slow, as history has shown over and over with NathCon/NACC vs. Top 4 Conferences in playoffs, we're gonna have some trouble playing catch-up. But I honestly think (all bias aside) this is the most 3-dimensional team talent-wise that the NathCon/NACC has sent to the playoffs. The Lakeland-Whitley Dynasty was the former #1 imo, but their defenses were some of the worst the NACC has produced. Aurora has playmakers on both sides of the ball and I'm excited for them to show out against a nationally respected  program. 2 more days till gameday, I know Beebe is gonna have them ready to go!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 21, 2019, 08:18:40 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 21, 2019, 05:59:48 PM
Quote from: Gestekoe on November 20, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2019, 02:05:00 PM
Our conference has only really been competitive in one playoff matchup in its short existence and that was 2012 Concordia Chicago and their explosive offense at the time coming up short on a 2-point conversion at the end versus a talented Bethel squad. Hoping we can show the current MIAC champions a good show and maybe have a chance late. Gonna be a fun Saturday. Leggo AU!!!

I agree, this is the closest the NACC/NATHC/IBFC have come to winning a playoff game.  BUT....You are actually forgetting about Aurora back in 2004 when they gave Wooster a run for their money in the first round.  Tony Sutton ran for like 200+ yards and 5 TDs (I mean he did this to everyone that year), yet Aurora still hung in there until the end.  Other then those two, it's been blowouts I believe every other year.

Trust me, I want very much for the NACC to get our first playoff win like everyone else here.  But I don't know, when you leave the NACC it's a whole different animal talent wise.  Aurora may put up some points, but don't think they will be able to keep up with the Johnnies.  I could see this being maybe a 65-32, 63-41 type game.  Again, Aurora putting up some points, but just not enough.  I hope I am wrong, but we've been through this before too many times.

I could see Zimbelmans arm falling off at the end of the game.  500-600 yards and he will have a WR with over 200 yards and a few TDs at the end of the day.

You're right, you're right. 04 AU squad gets slept on too often. I was only thinking since 08, NathCon/NACC. But I'm anxious to see how our open offense does against the Johnnie's secondary. If Zimbelman comes out wi tut h ice water in his veins, we will have a ball game. If we start slow, as history has shown over and over with NathCon/NACC vs. Top 4 Conferences in playoffs, we're gonna have some trouble playing catch-up. But I honestly think (all bias aside) this is the most 3-dimensional team talent-wise that the NathCon/NACC has sent to the playoffs. The Lakeland-Whitley Dynasty was the former #1 imo, but their defenses were some of the worst the NACC has produced. Aurora has playmakers on both sides of the ball and I'm excited for them to show out against a nationally respected  program. 2 more days till gameday, I know Beebe is gonna have them ready to go!

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Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 23, 2019, 02:07:15 PM
Aurora 28-St. John's 14 2 minutes left second quarter.

AU's offense is for real and defense is playing well. Leggggggoooooo Spartans!!!!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 23, 2019, 02:40:55 PM
Aurora scores in under a minute to open the second half, extra point is blocked. Aurora 34-St. John's 21!
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Post by: Rhythm21 on November 23, 2019, 03:19:37 PM
Start of the 4th, Aurora 40-St. John's 35. 15 more minutes, boys. Let's close it out!!!!
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Post by: Rhythm21 on November 23, 2019, 03:34:13 PM
Absolute dart from Zimbelman to Harner!!! Aurora up 9, under 9 minutes to go!!!
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Post by: Rhythm21 on November 23, 2019, 03:55:45 PM
St. John's up 4, 1:49 left, AU getting the ball. Come on Offense, let's get it done!!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 23, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
Final score: St. John's 51-Aurora 47. It's not the result we were hoping for and there is no such thing as a moral victory, but the future looks bright. Zimbelman and Aurora's offense showed they are capable of competing with a top 10 team in the country and the defense has some playmakers that just weren't able to make that clutch play this time. Game lived up to the hype, excited to see where the program goes from here, sky's the limit!
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Post by: thunderdog on November 23, 2019, 04:16:04 PM
Whale of a game by AU! Another 10-15 seconds on the clock, and it coulda been a different result. Hats off to AU for a tremendous effort.
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Post by: retagent on November 23, 2019, 04:21:10 PM
Let me be the first Johnnie backer to say what a great game the Spartans played. In the Johnnies only other loss, they dominated statistically, and it was a bit of a fluke. This game the AU offense couldn't be stopped. Fun to watch. Well, at the end. I think Aurora must have lead for about 56 minutes out of 60. You have a lot to be proud of, and a lot to look forward to.
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Post by: SpartanHouse on November 23, 2019, 04:34:26 PM
I will be curious how long Beebe stay at Aurora. Gotta think that a turnaround like what he did this past year will get noticed and some bigger programs will come lurking.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 23, 2019, 05:08:46 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 23, 2019, 04:21:10 PM
Let me be the first Johnnie backer to say what a great game the Spartans played. In the Johnnies only other loss, they dominated statistically, and it was a bit of a fluke. This game the AU offense couldn't be stopped. Fun to watch. Well, at the end. I think Aurora must have lead for about 56 minutes out of 60. You have a lot to be proud of, and a lot to look forward to.

It was a really good game, super excited of where AU's program is at right now. Defense needs to be addressed, but your QB showed us why he won the Gagliardi as a junior. And your WRs-- Alston, Mohr and Hodge, I think -- are elite playmakers. And your O-line, with the exception of a few coverage sacks, made the game look like it was 7 on 7. Proud of my Spartans for the effort, but St. John's was the better team. Congratulations and good luck going forward in the playoffs! It would be nice to say we were knocked out of the playoffs by the 2019 National Champions  ;)

Quote from: thunderdog on November 23, 2019, 04:16:04 PM
Whale of a game by AU! Another 10-15 seconds on the clock, and it coulda been a different result. Hats off to AU for a tremendous effort.

That sack at the 50 killed us. Johnnie's defense showed up when it needed to.

Quote from: BigRedScots on November 23, 2019, 04:34:26 PM
I will be curious how long Beebe stay at Aurora. Gotta think that a turnaround like what he did this past year will get noticed and some bigger programs will come lurking.

Oh yeah, bigger programs will be interested for sure. I'm hoping Beebe stays home in Aurora and continues to build up the program. But we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by: sncdangler on November 23, 2019, 08:44:09 PM
Looking forward to doing battle with Aurora when my Green Knights come into the NACC in a couple years. Should be fun competition. Great showing today at SJU.
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Post by: Veek on November 23, 2019, 09:58:13 PM
Hats off to Aurora for a great game today. You have a great QB who used his elusiveness to make many big plays.  I can't remember such a high scoring game on both sides of the ball in Collegeville in my 45 years of watching the Johnnies.  Congrats for a great game.  You have much to look forward to and your fans were great, too!
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Post by: OzJohnnie on November 23, 2019, 10:57:42 PM
That AU QB was a handful.  It's been a long time since the Johnnie defense was challenged like that.  A real heart stopper of a game.  You've got a great team, Spartans, and I reckon next season you will be given a lot of respect.
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Post by: sjusection105 on November 24, 2019, 07:35:06 AM
AU the Spartans are for real! This game will go down as one of the classics in Johnnie play off history, and that's saying a lot. We will see you next year in the season opener.
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Post by: SpartanHouse on November 24, 2019, 09:19:06 AM
Will AU be ranked in the final poll? If so...what?

21st...ish.
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Post by: repete on November 24, 2019, 03:21:55 PM
Congrats to A U on its great scheme and great team. Impressive effort up north.
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Post by: MRMIKESMITH on November 24, 2019, 03:24:58 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on November 24, 2019, 09:19:06 AM
Will AU be ranked in the final poll? If so...what?

21st...ish.

Depends on how well St. John's performs the rest of the way. If they go on to blow-out the next few, then I'd say they trend above those mentioned teams, if St. Johns bombs out next week, then below them.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 24, 2019, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: sjusection105 on November 24, 2019, 07:35:06 AM
AU the Spartans are for real! This game will go down as one of the classics in Johnnie play off history, and that's saying a lot. We will see you next year in the season opener.

That was the second most points ever scored on the Johnnie D, the top result against us was Mount in '93 when they put up 56 points in a disaster of a game.  The variety and precision of the AU QB in this game was inspiring.  It had a feel of Erdmann against UST last year when Jackson announced himself and really took off.  I reckon we would have been done for as well if we didn't have Erdmann and a few others that managed to keep the scoring machine going.

Next year the Spartans can break out something fierce.  They will be a very dangerous squad and eager to take vengeance in Collegeville next year when we meet in the regular season.

EDIT: In fact, that's the most points scored on the Johnnie defense since UST in 2011.  And then you need to go back to Mount in '93 to find that many points again.  And then I scanned the record books back to the 1930's and there was nothing else close.  That was it.  AU put on quite the show.
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Post by: DuffMan on November 25, 2019, 09:04:23 AM
So, I realize there are not a ton of Aurora fans here, but congrats on a great season.  You have a great team, much better than I thought I would see.  Zimbleman is the real deal, and your o and d lines are very good.  Much to be proud of.  I'm not sure that the better team won this weekend, but I'll take the Johnnie win.

See you in MN next fall!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Baldini on November 27, 2019, 02:14:42 PM
The 2020 Football Conference schedule is up on their website.

https://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2020-21/schedule
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Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 05, 2019, 11:42:34 PM
WLC will be looking for a new head coach as Dennis Miller is retiring.

https://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2019-20/releases/20191205d6fvzu
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 16, 2019, 12:37:35 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on December 05, 2019, 11:42:34 PM
WLC will be looking for a new head coach as Dennis Miller is retiring.

https://www.wlcsports.com/sports/fball/2019-20/releases/20191205d6fvzu

Eric Treske will take the reigns as head coach at WLC. He spent the last few years as offensive coordinator at Lakeland.
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Post by: Baldini on December 17, 2019, 12:09:01 PM
2020 NACC-MIAA Challenge Series games to be played on Sept. 19th.

Albion @ Aurora
Adrian @ Benedictine
Olivet @ Eureka
Hope @ Concordia-Chicago
Kalamazoo @ Concordia-Wisconsin
Finlandia @ Lakeland
Alma @ Wisconsin Lutheran
Trine @ Rockford

Additional NACC non-conferences games. (Subject to change)

Aurora - @ St. John's and UW-River Falls
Benedictine - Rose-Hulman and St. Thomas (Minn.)
Eureka - @ MacMurray
Lakeland - @ Lawrence
Concordia-Wisconsin - @ Martin Luther and @ Beloit
Concordia-Chicago - Beloit and @ Chicago
Wisconsin Lutheran - @ Lake Forest and Martin Luther
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 17, 2019, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: Baldini on December 17, 2019, 12:09:01 PM
2020 NACC-MIAA Challenge Series games to be played on Sept. 19th.

Albion @ Aurora
Adrian @ Benedictine
Olivet @ Eureka
Hope @ Concordia-Chicago
Kalamazoo @ Concordia-Wisconsin
Finlandia @ Lakeland
Alma @ Wisconsin Lutheran
Trine @ Rockford

Additional NACC non-conferences games. (Subject to change)

Aurora - @ St. John's and UW-River Falls
Benedictine - Rose-Hulman and St. Thomas (Minn.)
Eureka - @ MacMurray
Lakeland - @ Lawrence
Concordia-Wisconsin - @ Martin Luther and @ Beloit
Concordia-Chicago - Beloit and @ Chicago
Wisconsin Lutheran - Martin Luther

St. Norbert: vs Loras, at UW-Stout
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Baldini on December 17, 2019, 12:50:23 PM
Does St. Norbert make the switch to the NACC in 2020?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 17, 2019, 12:51:44 PM
That's in 2021.
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Post by: Captain_Joe08 on December 23, 2019, 12:20:33 AM
Aurora finishes #24 in the final Top 25 poll. I do believe that this was the first time that an NACC team has finished the season ranked in the top 25 in football.
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Post by: Ryan Stoppable on December 26, 2019, 05:48:21 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on December 23, 2019, 12:20:33 AM
Aurora finishes #24 in the final Top 25 poll. I do believe that this was the first time that an NACC team has finished the season ranked in the top 25 in football.

For that matter, is this the first time a NACC team has ever been ranked for football in the D3FB poll? I don't believe Concordia Chicago was when they went 10-1, and I can't think of anyone else who would have been in the same area code as the top 25.
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Post by: Baldini on December 26, 2019, 06:03:05 PM
Quote from: Ryan Stoppable on December 26, 2019, 05:48:21 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on December 23, 2019, 12:20:33 AM
Aurora finishes #24 in the final Top 25 poll. I do believe that this was the first time that an NACC team has finished the season ranked in the top 25 in football.

For that matter, is this the first time a NACC team has ever been ranked for football in the D3FB poll? I don't believe Concordia Chicago was when they went 10-1, and I can't think of anyone else who would have been in the same area code as the top 25.

Concordia-Chicago was the 26th highest receiver of points in the 2012 final poll. Rowan who ended up at the 25th spot had a total of 65 points to 50 for Concordia-Chicago. 'Missed it by that much'. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on December 28, 2019, 01:09:39 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on December 23, 2019, 12:20:33 AM
Aurora finishes #24 in the final Top 25 poll. I do believe that this was the first time that an NACC team has finished the season ranked in the top 25 in football.

I think they deserved much higher ranking after their performance on the road at SJU.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on January 23, 2020, 04:53:19 PM
You folks must be on an extended "recent holiday vacation!" :)  No one has mentioned any reaction to Oberlin's HC Anderson leaving to return to DII Notre Dame College (and one of his assistants going with him there as well.)  Oberlin had some new assistant coaches this past year who joined in 2019.  Do you think they will keep it in house or go for someone outside the program?

Certainly, much change going on in numerous coaching staffs.  The former Notre Dame HC, who had them going far into the DII National Championship Playoffs the last two years (semifinals last year and quarterfinals this year) left to take over DII Lenoir-Ryne in North Carolina and he took 2-3 of his assistants with him.  NDC has done quite well after starting a program from scratch just a few years ago. LR had made the playoffs this year as well.  The LR HC was hired as HC at DI scholarship Mercer University in Georgia and took some of his assistants there (Mercer, which reinstated football back in 2011 after a  many decades absence) after being in the non-scholarship Pioneer League their first year, went full scholarship and play in the conference with The Citadel, Furman, etc. (they lost to NC this year), but fired their HC who had been there since the reinstatement of the program.  They get anywhere from 6,000-10,000+ to their home games.  Anyway, crazy moves in the "Coaching Carousel" all over in every division! I feel sorry for (in some sense) those coaches wives!  Moving every 2-3 years in some cases has to be tough.

Anyway, thought's on Oberlin?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 23, 2020, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on January 23, 2020, 04:53:19 PM
You folks must be on an extended "recent holiday vacation!" :)  No one has mentioned any reaction to Oberlin's HC Anderson leaving to return to DII Notre Dame College (and one of his assistants going with him there as well.)  Oberlin had some new assistant coaches this past year who joined in 2019.  Do you think they will keep it in house or go for someone outside the program?

Certainly, much change going on in numerous coaching staffs.  The former Notre Dame HC, who had them going far into the DII National Championship Playoffs the last two years (semifinals last year and quarterfinals this year) left to take over DII Lenoir-Ryne in North Carolina and he took 2-3 of his assistants with him.  NDC has done quite well after starting a program from scratch just a few years ago. LR had made the playoffs this year as well.  The LR HC was hired as HC at DI scholarship Mercer University in Georgia and took some of his assistants there (Mercer, which reinstated football back in 2011 after a  many decades absence) after being in the non-scholarship Pioneer League their first year, went full scholarship and play in the conference with The Citadel, Furman, etc. (they lost to NC this year), but fired their HC who had been there since the reinstatement of the program.  They get anywhere from 6,000-10,000+ to their home games.  Anyway, crazy moves in the "Coaching Carousel" all over in every division! I feel sorry for (in some sense) those coaches wives!  Moving every 2-3 years in some cases has to be tough.

Anyway, thought's on Oberlin?


Oberlin is in the North Coast -- you may have better luck there.
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Post by: formerd3db on January 24, 2020, 02:30:18 PM
True, meant to post it there-thanks for noting that for me Pat. (That's what I get for doing this on my phone keyboard!) Anyway, will post it over on NCAV board but since it is here now, would be interested in what others opinions are in general, overall.
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Post by: Captain_Joe08 on April 03, 2020, 02:01:38 PM
Quote from: Baldini on December 17, 2019, 12:09:01 PM
2020 NACC-MIAA Challenge Series games to be played on Sept. 19th.

Albion @ Aurora
Adrian @ Benedictine
Olivet @ Eureka
Hope @ Concordia-Chicago
Kalamazoo @ Concordia-Wisconsin
Finlandia @ Lakeland
Alma @ Wisconsin Lutheran
Trine @ Rockford

Additional NACC non-conferences games. (Subject to change)

Aurora - @ St. John's and UW-River Falls
Benedictine - Rose-Hulman and St. Thomas (Minn.)
Eureka - @ MacMurray
Lakeland - @ Lawrence
Concordia-Wisconsin - @ Martin Luther and @ Beloit
Concordia-Chicago - Beloit and @ Chicago
Wisconsin Lutheran - @ Lake Forest and Martin Luther

Updated Non-Cons

Eureka: @ Knox
Lakeland: vs Illinois College
Rockford: @ Grinnell vs Greenville

Conference Breakdown: MIAA: 8, Midwest: 8, UMAC: 4, HCAC: 1, WIAC: 1, MIAC: 1 Independent: 1,
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Post by: Just Bill on April 15, 2020, 07:14:32 PM
NACC has a new Commissioner

https://naccsports.org/general/2019-20/releases/20200409v89l34
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on June 09, 2020, 10:56:40 AM
Take this for whatever it's worth - and a couple months out yet, I feel like that's not a whole lot? - but the NACC is optimistic (https://naccsports.org/general/2019-20/releases/20200608h4kplk) that we'll have some #NACCtion this fall.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on July 01, 2020, 08:17:57 AM
The MIAA announced that they would be playing a "predominantly conference schedule for fall sports: cross country, football, men's and women's golf, men's and women's soccer, and volleyball." I'm thinking this may cancel the MIAA-NACC Challenge football games?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on July 01, 2020, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: RFMichigan on July 01, 2020, 08:17:57 AM
The MIAA announced that they would be playing a "predominantly conference schedule for fall sports: cross country, football, men's and women's golf, men's and women's soccer, and volleyball." I'm thinking this may cancel the MIAA-NACC Challenge football games?

I would wager that likely does.😉☹️
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: jamtod on July 16, 2020, 03:01:02 PM
Benedictine's non-conference matchup with St Thomas has been cancelled, as the MIAC is going to a conference-only schedule (for now).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Ryan Stoppable on July 27, 2020, 12:36:37 PM
NACC Postpones Fall Semester Conference Competitions and Championship Events (https://naccsports.org/general/2020-21/releases/202007253o0rg7)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on September 01, 2020, 09:10:33 AM
NACC says it'll play ball this winter. Ah, Sheboygan in February...

"In the sports of football, men's and women's soccer, and women's volleyball, the NACC has adopted plans to conduct Conference regular-season and postseason events that will take place after January 1, 2021. For football and men's and women's soccer, scheduling will be divisionally-focused, while women's volleyball will contest a full single round-robin schedule coordinated with a revised NACC men's volleyball slate. As NCAA Division III has canceled national championships in these sports, all NACC programs that sponsor these sports will have the opportunity to participate in a NACC postseason tournament, although these tournaments will be flighted with teams qualifying for specific flights based on their finish in the final league/divisional standings."
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 06, 2020, 03:48:24 PM
Those games are scheduled for March 20, March 27, April 3, April 10 and April 17:
https://www.d3football.com/conf/NACC/2020/schedule
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: jaybird44 on September 24, 2020, 06:11:59 PM
Hello all!

Usually I post items about WashU games that I have or will broadcast, or about general observations from other games and events.  However, this post regards a topic that is quite a bit different--with the athletic shoe being on the broadcaster's foot.

I am going to attempt to cover 100 miles in a solo charity ultramarathon through an event that I have organized.  "Rett Gets Rocked Virtual Ultra Weekend" will be conducted in the subdivision where I live in St. Charles, MO, to raise awareness and research funds for Rett syndrome.  I get started at 9 a.m. Central on Saturday, October 3 and end at 5 p.m. Sunday, October 4.  Proceeds from the event will be split between Rettsyndrome.org (the only national organization spearheading research and providing resources for affected patients and their families) and the Rett Spectrum Clinic--a collaboration between the WashU School of Medicine and St. Louis Children's Hospital.

Rett syndrome is a rare, non-inherited neurological disorder that is caused by a gene mutation in the brain.  Rett strikes typically when a child is 6-18 months old, and it takes away the child's ability to move and communicate.  Most of them end up in wheelchairs with active minds, but mired in the physical rubble that Rett creates.  And, the neurological damage prevents verbal communication and arm and hand movement for sign language.

In essence, Rett does to a child what Lucy in the "Peanuts" comic strip does to Charlie Brown when he tries to kick the football that she is holding.  The only difference is that Charlie Brown can get back up to try again.  Those who are afflicted with Rett syndrome don't get another chance to enjoy a vibrant life.

If you would like to make a donation to the cause, here is the link to my Rett Racers donation page:  https://rettracer.everydayhero.com/us/rett-gets-rocked-2020

Thanks for your time and consideration, and let's hope that we get back to playing and broadcasting sports much sooner than later!

Jay Murry
Play-By-Play Announcer, Washington University in St. Louis
Event Director, Rett Gets Rocked Virtual Ultra Weekend
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on January 18, 2021, 10:32:05 PM
https://youtu.be/EoeUvJ-l0y8

Been awhile, and still a ways to go until the condensed NACC season this Spring. I saw somebody post this game on FB and thought I'd share with everyone as starved for NACC football as I am. This was an instant classic, as Head Coach Don Beebe led the 2019 NACC champion Spartans to Minnesota and went toe-to-toe with national power St. John's. Enjoy!!!

And I haven't been able to go through the 2020 Spartan recruiting class as thoroughly as I had for past seasons, but I will be posting about some of the recruits soon. There's a linebacker from Chapparal High School that I'm excited about, a QB from Florida with a wicked strong arm, and more than a couple monster-sized Offensive linemen! It's tough to judge these players before they hit the field in royal blue and white, but from what I've seen so far, this class has the potential to be one of the most talented classes in AU football history.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on January 20, 2021, 06:39:01 PM
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/aurora-beacon-news/sports/ct-abn-spt-football-au-recruiting-st-051520-20200514-m5dtw77onfepfa3l6muhapvzo4-story.html

Great article from back in May of last year on Coach Beebe's impact on local recruiting. Article mentions several in-area commits in 2020 including transfer WR Trey Madsen and Oswego OLineman Troy Warner along with several others. The talented local recruits mixed with the many out-of-staters has me impatient for March!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: raiderpa on January 22, 2021, 07:22:13 AM
Congrats to Nick Sirianni, and especially Larry Kehres!  In an article this morning it is reported that Sirianni when talking to Kehres was asked, "What kind of offense are you going to run?"  As Sirianni started talking, Kehres pounded the table and said something to the effect, "How can you start that without knowing your players?"  And so the answer to the Kehres success...players first, then figure how to best use them.  So many young coaches take their systems in and try to make their teams conform to what they want.  This is a sure formula for failure in many cases.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 15, 2021, 07:58:31 PM
With the 2020-2021 season roughly a month out, I'll be posting some highlights of AU recruits from both the 2020 class and the upcoming 2021 class that I'm excited about. I'll start off with one of my favorites so far:
2021 Recruiting Class: H-back/TE, Riley Caines, from Georgia
http://www.hudl.com/v/2EEFdU
With All-American Colton Jewell graduating, there is a massive void in AU's explosive offense. The Spartans under Beebe use their TE position similar to how the Saints had used Jimmy Graham back in the day. They flex him out a lot but also need him in-line to block for the running game on occasion. Riley fits this mold perfectly. He's rangy and can track the ball well in the air, and then motion into the backfield on the very next play and go block a linebacker on iso. With our lack of roster depth at TE going into the spring, I'm excited to see if Riley Caines can compete for meaningful playing time immediately this upcoming fall.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 15, 2021, 08:31:11 PM
2020 Recruiting Class: LB, Christian Bower, from Arizona
http://www.hudl.com/v/2C8c5R
Coach Beebe's staff got a good one with Marcellus Romious in the 2019 class. In limited playing time his freshman year, Romious flashed his potential for making big plays with an INT and TFL. Bower has that same potential for the 2020 class. His first highlight shows him dropping into the passing lane, picking off the pass and taking it back for a TD. He has the instincts needed to be a solid LB and plays with a lot of physicality. Like most freshman LBs, the question will be tackling in space. If he can do that effectively, he has a chance to compete for a spot on the 2-deep against Eureka on March 20. Could see him running down on kickoffs this spring season.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 15, 2021, 08:56:41 PM
2020 Recruiting Class: LB, Cooper Stevenson, from Michigan
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/9954648/5db3ca9a19a5820cc0c8763a
Cooper is that Madden Player who only tackles using Hit Stick. He has great size and can read blocking schemes well enough to meet and stop the ball carrier in the hole. More of a middle linebacker as opposed to Christian Bower, who will most likely be a Will backer, Stevenson's strength will be run stopping. Because of his size, he at times got away with playing too high in high school and he'll have to play lower and with more bend at AU. But he has the skillset to be a major factor in Aurora's run defense. With Blake Martz being the only senior backer on our spring roster, you can tell Beebe and his staff recruited the LB position hard the last few years. And I think they got some good ones to develop.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 16, 2021, 06:10:23 PM
2020 Recruiting Class: OL, Andrew Genz, from Illinois & OL, Wesley Petersen, from Indiana & OL, Luke Mulder, from California & OL, Ethan Hill, from North Carolina.
Both Genz and Petersen are listed at 6'9 and between 365-370 lbs; Mulder at 6'6 300 lbs; Hill at 6'3 275 lbs. If AU wants to compete year in and year out with the blue-bloods in the playoffs, we're going to have to protect the QB from the massive edge rushers in the WIAC, MIAC, OAC, etc. The NACC has also struggled since its inception to run the ball in the playoffs (See Reasnover's NCAA playoff box score 2 seasons ago.) Between these 4 and a few other OL recruits from the 2020 class, it looks like Aurora is not only building for the immediate future, but planning to compete in the trenches for the long run. Big shout out to the Aurora OL in 2019. They didn't get nearly enough credit for how influential they were on AU's historic offense, and I think this class contains the size to keep our offense progressing in the right direction.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 16, 2021, 06:31:54 PM
2020 Recruiting Class: WR, Jordan Smith, from Florida
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/8232102/5dc08e6aa0226b0d702b2086
Doesn't have elite size, maybe a shade under 5'10, and doesn't have the blazing speed of Junior WR Cam Moore. But he is a gamer. You watch his highlights and see a dude who's not afraid to go over the middle and take a hit and then on the next play sprint to the secondary and block a safety so his RB can spring a long run. Don't get me wrong, Jordan has excellent hands and has the ability to create yards after the catch, but what really stands out is that this is a kid who will put the team first. With a loaded WR room, he'll be a player who makes the travel squad by running down on kickoffs and maybe gets involved in the return game. He'll make his bones on Special Teams the first couple years and continue to develop. With his determination and play style, he has a chance to excell at AU.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 16, 2021, 08:57:54 PM
2020 Recruiting Class: DE, Nathan Johnson, from Illinois
http://www.hudl.com/v/2BJHFY
http://www.hudl.com/v/2C8Q0h
http://www.hudl.com/v/2C1N5n
As excited as I am for Riley Caines in our 2021 class, I am equally as excited about Nathan Johnson for our 2020 class. Listed at 6'4 270 lbs, you would think Nathan would be a bit of a mauler and rely solely on his power to win matchups against the offensive line. To be honest, I thought he was going to be a 3 technique when I started watching the highlights, but along with the power, he has quickness. He bull rushes a tckle off edge one play and turns around and splits a double team. Sky is the limit for Nathan Johnson as an edge defender at AU. Would really like to see him go up against some NACC tackles this spring. Wouldnt be surprised if he comes away with a couple sacks in his first few career games, he has that kind of natural athleticism.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 17, 2021, 02:04:03 AM
2021 Recruiting Class: EDGE, Cam Rogers, from Alabama
http://www.hudl.com/v/2Ekx1A
Cam is a play maker, plain and simple. In high school, he lined up as a stand up DE, edge LB. And he couldn't be blocked. Rogers consistently shed blockers like they weren't even there, and then went on to make the tackle/force a fumble. He splits double teams while exhibiting a high motor. Not sure he has the size to play hand-in-the-dirt DE like Rob Stark, but with his elusiveness, I think AU can develop him into a solid Will backer.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on February 21, 2021, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on February 15, 2021, 07:58:31 PM
With the 2020-2021 season roughly a month out, I'll be posting some highlights of AU recruits from both the 2020 class and the upcoming 2021 class that I'm excited about. I'll start off with one of my favorites so far:
2021 Recruiting Class: H-back/TE, Riley Caines, from Georgia
http://www.hudl.com/v/2EEFdU
With All-American Colton Jewell graduating, there is a massive void in AU's explosive offense. The Spartans under Beebe use their TE position similar to how the Saints had used Jimmy Graham back in the day. They flex him out a lot but also need him in-line to block for the running game on occasion. Riley fits this mold perfectly. He's rangy and can track the ball well in the air, and then motion into the backfield on the very next play and go block a linebacker on iso. With our lack of roster depth at TE going into the spring, I'm excited to see if Riley Caines can compete for meaningful playing time immediately this upcoming fall.

Jewell has another year of eligibility. Is he not going to play in the fall?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 22, 2021, 02:03:03 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on February 21, 2021, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on February 15, 2021, 07:58:31 PM
With the 2020-2021 season roughly a month out, I'll be posting some highlights of AU recruits from both the 2020 class and the upcoming 2021 class that I'm excited about. I'll start off with one of my favorites so far:
2021 Recruiting Class: H-back/TE, Riley Caines, from Georgia
http://www.hudl.com/v/2EEFdU
With All-American Colton Jewell graduating, there is a massive void in AU's explosive offense. The Spartans under Beebe use their TE position similar to how the Saints had used Jimmy Graham back in the day. They flex him out a lot but also need him in-line to block for the running game on occasion. Riley fits this mold perfectly. He's rangy and can track the ball well in the air, and then motion into the backfield on the very next play and go block a linebacker on iso. With our lack of roster depth at TE going into the spring, I'm excited to see if Riley Caines can compete for meaningful playing time immediately this upcoming fall.

Jewell has another year of eligibility. Is he not going to play in the fall?

I'm operating under the assumption our seniors playing this spring are foregoing next fall, just to not get hopes up. Would be ecstatic if Jewell, Zimbleman & Co. come back to make one more run at the NCAA Playoffs. I haven't heard any word either way though.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on February 22, 2021, 08:39:46 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on February 22, 2021, 02:03:03 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on February 21, 2021, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on February 15, 2021, 07:58:31 PM
With the 2020-2021 season roughly a month out, I'll be posting some highlights of AU recruits from both the 2020 class and the upcoming 2021 class that I'm excited about. I'll start off with one of my favorites so far:
2021 Recruiting Class: H-back/TE, Riley Caines, from Georgia
http://www.hudl.com/v/2EEFdU
With All-American Colton Jewell graduating, there is a massive void in AU's explosive offense. The Spartans under Beebe use their TE position similar to how the Saints had used Jimmy Graham back in the day. They flex him out a lot but also need him in-line to block for the running game on occasion. Riley fits this mold perfectly. He's rangy and can track the ball well in the air, and then motion into the backfield on the very next play and go block a linebacker on iso. With our lack of roster depth at TE going into the spring, I'm excited to see if Riley Caines can compete for meaningful playing time immediately this upcoming fall.

Jewell has another year of eligibility. Is he not going to play in the fall?

I'm operating under the assumption our seniors playing this spring are foregoing next fall, just to not get hopes up. Would be ecstatic if Jewell, Zimbleman & Co. come back to make one more run at the NCAA Playoffs. I haven't heard any word either way though.

They will be back in the fall. This spring doesn't effect their eligibility.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 22, 2021, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on February 22, 2021, 08:39:46 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on February 22, 2021, 02:03:03 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on February 21, 2021, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on February 15, 2021, 07:58:31 PM
With the 2020-2021 season roughly a month out, I'll be posting some highlights of AU recruits from both the 2020 class and the upcoming 2021 class that I'm excited about. I'll start off with one of my favorites so far:
2021 Recruiting Class: H-back/TE, Riley Caines, from Georgia
http://www.hudl.com/v/2EEFdU
With All-American Colton Jewell graduating, there is a massive void in AU's explosive offense. The Spartans under Beebe use their TE position similar to how the Saints had used Jimmy Graham back in the day. They flex him out a lot but also need him in-line to block for the running game on occasion. Riley fits this mold perfectly. He's rangy and can track the ball well in the air, and then motion into the backfield on the very next play and go block a linebacker on iso. With our lack of roster depth at TE going into the spring, I'm excited to see if Riley Caines can compete for meaningful playing time immediately this upcoming fall.

Jewell has another year of eligibility. Is he not going to play in the fall?

I'm operating under the assumption our seniors playing this spring are foregoing next fall, just to not get hopes up. Would be ecstatic if Jewell, Zimbleman & Co. come back to make one more run at the NCAA Playoffs. I haven't heard any word either way though.

They will be back in the fall. This spring doesn't effect their eligibility.

Unless they have told you they're coming back, you are confusing the ability to return for an 100% certainty they will choose to return for an extra fall semester. No worries, easy mistake to make. A lot of division 3 players are taking this spring semester off to save money and come back in the fall. I dont think that's the case with Jewell and Zimbleman. As far as I've heard, they've been enrolled in classes and are on pace to graduate following the semester. But hey, nobody would be happier if they return in the fall. Maybe taking an elective class or two so they could focus on the season.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on February 24, 2021, 04:15:51 PM
They can graduate on time and enter into grad school.

they will 100% be back.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on February 26, 2021, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on February 24, 2021, 04:15:51 PM
They can graduate on time and enter into grad school.

they will 100% be back.

Well, sure hope you're right. But if not, I'll just save this post in case you're ever "100% sure" about something else. ;)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on March 06, 2021, 06:04:25 PM
2021 Recruiting Class: Slot WR/OW (Offensive Weapon), Drew Henson, from Texas
http://www.hudl.com/v/2Eh5md
The rich get richer! Aurora goes down to Texas and gets an absolute playmaker. They beat out programs in the Lone Star State like Southwestern University and Austin College to land this Offensive Weapon. This kid is a matchup nightmare for defenses. He runs crisp routes, changing direction on a dime. Displays a high football IQ, setting up defenders with double moves and leaving them in the dust. But the best part of Henson's game is yards after the catch. He was used very reminiscintly to Tavon Austin at West Virginia. Essentially, get him the ball in space and watch him work. He works out of the slot primarily, fearlessly running across the middle in traffic or motioning into the backfield on a jet sweep, but he has the speed to beat cornerbacks on the outside as well. The only real knock on Drew is his height, but his hands and make-you-miss ability neutralize that. Didn't see him return any kicks, but I feel like Coach Beebe and staff will see his potential in the return game. AU's WR room is loaded with talent, and Henson only adds to it. Henson as a football player matches perfectly with what Beebe wants to do on offense.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on March 11, 2021, 05:48:00 PM
Aurora Spartans drawing some attention from NFC North squads. I'd have to believe the attention from the next level is mostly focused on Jewell.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on March 13, 2021, 10:32:17 PM
One week away!  ;D

Games kicking NACC play off on March 20th:
CUW @ Lakeland
Benedictine @ CUC
Aurora @ Eureka
Rockford @ WLC
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 20, 2021, 12:52:57 PM
NACC Opener (Benedictine/CUC) about ready to kick off-

Rhythm 21 may finally get to see some in-conference action--
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 20, 2021, 05:25:59 PM
Caught a lot of Benedictine's win over CUC earlier today. The IL Eagles would have had 7 more points if it weren't for a football mis-placement that wasn't caught soon enough. One of Benedictine's WR's caught a pass midway through the 2nd Quarter and just before he got to the end zone the play was blown dead. As I understand it, the ball was placed on the wrong line of scrimmage (it was a 1st down play right after a change of possession.) (Correct me if I'm wrong on that one.)

CUC's offense, other than 2 drives, sputtered. Cougars were stopped on the Eagle 1 yd line on the last play of the 1st half. The other promising drive, in the 2nd half, James got good yardage on several running plays, but the drive stalled and a FG attempt was missed.

Benedictine had a better day passing, and their defense -for the most part-was strong in pitching a shut-out.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on March 21, 2021, 01:46:10 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 20, 2021, 12:52:57 PM
NACC Opener (Benedictine/CUC) about ready to kick off-

Rhythm 21 may finally get to see some in-conference action--

Haha, and it was great! Before Aurora/Eureka kicked off, I caught that play that was blown dead. Alex Lopez was headed for the endzone, no question. Couldn't imagine what would have happened if it was a closer game.

But Aurora picked up right where they left off last season. Jewell was absent from the game, so we lost his pass catching ability, but Jackson Howarth handled the run blocking duties seamlessly.
A few other takeaways from the 42-7 win:
*Cam Moore is the truth. He is everything we hoped we would be. And with Maxwell graduating, we need him, newcomer Trey Madsen, Harner and company to replace his production.
*Aurora's Offensive Line is dominant! Run game, pass protection, didn't matter. Aurora's OLine was a class above Eureka. Shout out LT Chris Toth (Juco transfer Jr.), LG Jackson Clevenger (So.), C Jackson Nazos (Jr.), RG Jalen Cole (So.), RT Matt Kickel (So.). Everybody who knows football knows it starts in the trenches, and our trenches are young monsters. So excited to watch them continue to develop over the next couple years.
*Youth and talent in the secondary. Robbie Peterson is easily our number 1 CB. The other side seems to be an open competition between a couple Freshmen. I'm big on Trelynn Lee. He has a long frame and can keep with quick receivers on double moves. Jeffrey William's Jr played well at nickelback, running with a wheel route and getting his head around in time to get a pick.
*Zimbelman is fast. We knew he could pass and hit a glimpse of his speed against St. John's, but he looks quicker this year, almost Johnny Football-esque.

I cannot wait for next Saturday. Aurora at home vs a rebuilding CUC. Should be fun.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 21, 2021, 02:22:14 PM
Also caught the 4th Quarter of CUW/Lakeland:

CUW had its' chances - got 2 interceptions, but missed a FG after the 1st, had the drive stall after the 2nd.
Rivers got boatloads of carries and yards for Lakeland in the Muskie win.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on March 21, 2021, 10:45:29 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 21, 2021, 02:22:14 PM
Also caught the 4th Quarter of CUW/Lakeland:

CUW had its' chances - got 2 interceptions, but missed a FG after the 1st, had the drive stall after the 2nd.
Rivers got boatloads of carries and yards for Lakeland in the Muskie win.

That Nunnery/Rivers combo is dangerous. And unfortunately for CUW, it's been about 8 years since they had a dangerous offense like the one they had in 2013 with Damashke and Wenzelberger.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 26, 2021, 06:10:06 PM
Lakeland/Rockford:  2 contrasting style RB's  -- Muskies' Rivers is a shifty "Barry Sanders-like" back who relies on a lot of moves during his carries--Rockford's Johnson is more of a punishing,'grind-it-out' back who punishes defenses with muscle. If Ray has a good day throwing the ball, this could be interesting if the Regent D can slow down the QB-RB duo of Lakeland.

WLC/Concordia-WI:  On offense, one concern I have is with the Warrior's running game. Fortunately, their passing game was good in their opener.  I figure this could be a tight one, if WLC's D is as "bend but no break" as it was against Rockford

Benedictine-Eureka:  If the Eagles' passing game is as good as it was against CUC in the opener, Ben U's got a great chance in this one.

CUC/Aurora:  Spartans should take this one unless they have a totally flat game.   
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 27, 2021, 02:04:59 PM
Eureka/Benedictine just underway:

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 28, 2021, 10:24:39 AM
Caught all of  Eureka/Benedictine.  The IL Eagles, trailing by 11 at one point, had 3 scoring drives, all for TDs in the 2nd half. Eureka's Hughes got hurt and had to leave the field for a while in tht  1st half. After he returned, Eureka scored 1 TD to pull within 3, but couldn't get the road win.

Benedictine's Lopez got several clutch catches to keep those 2nd half drives going. Eureka showed an ability to move the ball very well in the 1st half.

Also caught the last minute of the WLC/CUW game. During the Warriors' last frantic drive, Yockey connected with Jewell for a big gainer, but just couldn't get that needed end-zone completion.

Kudos to Lakeland's Rivers on the Muskie rushing record in their win over Rockford.

CUC/Aurora: Rhythm 21 can have the floor for that one.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on March 28, 2021, 05:46:23 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 26, 2021, 06:10:06 PM
Lakeland/Rockford:  2 contrasting style RB's  -- Muskies' Rivers is a shifty "Barry Sanders-like" back who relies on a lot of moves during his carries--Rockford's Johnson is more of a punishing,'grind-it-out' back who punishes defenses with muscle. If Ray has a good day throwing the ball, this could be interesting if the Regent D can slow down the QB-RB duo of Lakeland.

WLC/Concordia-WI:  On offense, one concern I have is with the Warrior's running game. Fortunately, their passing game was good in their opener.  I figure this could be a tight one, if WLC's D is as "bend but no break" as it was against Rockford

Benedictine-Eureka:  If the Eagles' passing game is as good as it was against CUC in the opener, Ben U's got a great chance in this one.

CUC/Aurora:  Spartans should take this one unless they have a totally flat game.

You were 100% right on all counts.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on March 28, 2021, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 28, 2021, 10:24:39 AM
Caught all of  Eureka/Benedictine.  The IL Eagles, trailing by 11 at one point, had 3 scoring drives, all for TDs in the 2nd half. Eureka's Hughes got hurt and had to leave the field for a while in tht  1st half. After he returned, Eureka scored 1 TD to pull within 3, but couldn't get the road win.

Benedictine's Lopez got several clutch catches to keep those 2nd half drives going. Eureka showed an ability to move the ball very well in the 1st half.

Also caught the last minute of the WLC/CUW game. During the Warriors' last frantic drive, Yockey connected with Jewell for a big gainer, but just couldn't get that needed end-zone completion.

Kudos to Lakeland's Rivers on the Muskie rushing record in their win over Rockford.

CUC/Aurora: Rhythm 21 can have the floor for that one.

I caught all the AU-CUC game and flipped back and forth between the other 3.

Benedictine battled back impressively and Eureka showed its youth. I like the talent Eureka has at their skill positions, and I think this spring season is going to benefit them the most come next fall.

WLC vs CUW was definitely the most entertaining game. You were spot on against WLC's offense. Yockey (sorry if I misspelled) is definitely a top 2-3 QB in the conference already, and I believe he is only a Sophomore. The run game needs some work for sure, but I like WLC's offense as a whole. CUW has a Freshman RB that I was impressed with, but I dont think either defense is at a level to slow AUs offense in the NACC playoffs.

Rockford battled for a half, but Lakeland shrugged it off in the 3rd and never looked back. Jaelen Ray is a big QB with high upside, but the rest of RU just isn't there yet.

AU started super slow. It did look like CUC's coach knew it was just a matter of time though. I believe they had the lead early in the first half when he chose to punt from AU's 29 yard line on a 4th and 7ish. I think CUC is a couple years from being competitive in the NACC. But I am concerned at the slow start by the Spartans. It seemed like they took Concordia too lightly at the beginning and then turned it on in the 2nd quarter. Beebe's halftime speech must have been a good one though, coming out and putting the game away with a 35 point 3rd quarter.

*AU and BU have qualified for the NACC playoffs already, next week will decide who gets the 1 seed from the South Division. The North Division is a 3 team race, Lakeland (2-0), CUW and WLC (1-1), with Lakeland playing WLC and CUW playing Rockford.

WLCALUM, do you know what the NACC is using for a tiebreaker this year? It's possible we have a 2-1 team getting the 3rd seed and missing the Playoffs.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 28, 2021, 06:38:43 PM
4/3/21 NACC North Schedule:

CUW @ Rockford:
Lakeland @ WLC:

Scenario 1:  CUW and WLC both win, there'd be a 3-way tie at the top. WLC would have beat Lakeland, CUW lost to Lakeland, CUW beat WLC. WLC would be out.

Scenario 2: WLC's best chance to get in--Warriors beat Lakeland, Rockford beats CUW. Warriors would have the tie-breaker on the Muskies.

Scenario 3:  WLC and CUW both lose--I think WLC would be out because the Falcons have the tiebreaker over the Warriors.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on March 29, 2021, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on March 28, 2021, 06:38:43 PM
4/3/21 NACC North Schedule:

CUW @ Rockford:
Lakeland @ WLC:

Scenario 1:  CUW and WLC both win, there'd be a 3-way tie at the top. WLC would have beat Lakeland, CUW lost to Lakeland, CUW beat WLC. WLC would be out.

Scenario 2: WLC's best chance to get in--Warriors beat Lakeland, Rockford beats CUW. Warriors would have the tie-breaker on the Muskies.

Scenario 3:  WLC and CUW both lose--I think WLC would be out because the Falcons have the tiebreaker over the Warriors.

So WLC has the edge over CUW in point differential as of this week, which I assume is the tiebreaker. If scenario 1 plays out and Lakeland, WLC and CUW are all 2-1 with head to head evening out (Lakeland over CUW, CUW over WLC, WLC over Lakeland) I'd imagine it would come down to point differential. Barring a catastrophic defeat, Lakeland should be in, and if WLC wins and keeps point differential edge over CUW, I believe they'd be in as well.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 02, 2021, 04:58:03 PM
4/3 Match-ups:  Eureka-CUC:  Cougars are at home, Eureka has shown a bit more balance in their passing vs. rushing statistics. If CUC brings its' best game, this could be interesting if their D can slow down Hughes and the Eureka receivers enough.

                         CUW-Rockford:  Regents are also at home. How motivated will they be, though? If the Regents use up a lot of time on their offensive possessions and keep the Falcons O off the field, I think their chances are better. Johnson's the type of back that can make that strategy work. Also, if the Regents decide to try throwing the ball deep and Ray connects on enough of those passes--

                          Aurora-Benedictine:  If both offenses are hitting on all cylinders, this will be a very entertaining game. Eagles' Lopez has put up good numbers receiving his first 2 games.

                          Lakeland-WLC:  Warriors are at home:  What do they do on offense? Try keeping the Muskie offense off the field with time consuming drives, or risk getting into a "track meet" type game? They'll need to slow down Rivers and Co. just enough, but if Lakeland wears out the Warrior D, WLC's task will become that much more difficult. 
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Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 02:56:56 PM
Don't look now, but Rockford is working on a serious upset. Up 20-0 on CUW, 5 minutes left in the first half. Wild game so far.

BU keeping it close against AU, a couple first half ints on Zimbleman have the game at 14-7 AU.

WLC is struggling against Lakeland's speed on defense and Lakeland's offense is turning out to be a matchup nightmare.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 03:45:35 PM
If all score differentials at halftime hold, Rockford has the edge in point differential for 2 seed in North. This is amazing.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 04:03:38 PM
Again, CUW's been able to move the ball against Rockford some in the 2nd half, but in the game, the Falcons have given up an interception, a fumble, and had a third drive stopped inside the Regent 5 yard line.  Ray's been having one of his better games connecting on long passes.

Eureka at last check was breaking the game with CUC open with 2 quick touchdowns early in the 3rd Quarter to take a 19-3 lead.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 04:10:16 PM
WLC scores 7, updated score differentials among the 2-4 spots in North:
WLC -21
RU -22
CUW -28
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 04:22:15 PM
If WLC gets in, I'll have mixed emotions about it. The Warriors would get Lakeland (again), but next time, it'd be on the road. Lakeland's not the type of team that will play 60 minutes of "flat" football.

AU-BU turning out to be another  back-and-forth game. Spartans just took the lead again early in the 4th.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 04:27:29 PM
Rockford 20, CUW 7  Just over 4 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 04:28:25 PM
RU gives up 7, updated score differentials among the 2-4 spots in North:
WLC -21
CUW -21
RU -29
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 04:34:58 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 04:22:15 PM
If WLC gets in, I'll have mixed emotions about it. The Warriors would get Lakeland (again), but next time, it'd be on the road. Lakeland's not the type of team that will play 60 minutes of "flat" football.

AU-BU turning out to be another  back-and-forth game. Spartans just took the lead again early in the 4th.

WLC gives up 7, updated score differentials among the 2-4 spots in North:
CUW -21
WLC -28
RU -29

Gonna come down to the wire.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 04:50:44 PM
Final:  Rockford 20, CUW 14.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 04:54:28 PM
Rockford upsets CUW (The likely 2 seed in North), and AU turns the ball over 5-6 times to BU. Davis on BU has 3 ints and a fumble recovery, likely NACC Defensive Player of the Week. AU still has a chance though, down 9 with 5 mins left in 4th. Need our offense to figure it out.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 04:57:49 PM
Quick score for AU's Offense, Zimbleman and the QB dive up the middle. Kerr connects on the extra point, 30-28 BU 4:21 left in 4th.
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Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 04:59:49 PM
A gem of an onside pop-up kick by Kerr! Spartans football in Benedictine territory, down 2!
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Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 05:05:26 PM
Touchdown Spartans!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Zimbleman takes it out to the right and runs over an Eagle to break the plane. Spartans up 4, going for 2. Bailey gets it, Spartans by 6.
Zimbleman's 4th Rush TD of game. He's a legend.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:16:52 PM
Nice comeback by the Spartans, from 9 pts down late to get the win--
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 05:17:57 PM
Jeffrey Williams Jr. wins the jump ball in the endzone and gets his 2nd Int of the Spring season. Spartans get the 1 seed in the South at 3-0. Spartan resilience wins out. This is a championship team, and championship teams refuse to lose! To the playoffs go the Spartans!

Sidenote: Don Beebe has yet to lose a NACC contest.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 05:19:25 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:16:52 PM
Nice comeback by the Spartans, from 9 pts down late to get the win--

What a wild week 3 in the NACC, huh?
But the good news is every single team has benefited from this abbreviated schedule and gotten some experience that will be an asset come the fall.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:23:10 PM
According to the NACC Football Standings page, WLC is listed as the #2 seed in the North  (WHAT??)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 05:27:09 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:23:10 PM
According to the NACC Football Standings page, WLC is listed as the #2 seed in the North  (WHAT??)

Are we gonna get an AU - WLC matchup in round one of the playoffs next week!????
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:29:06 PM
That's the way it looks on WLC's football schedule page- (I still don't get how the Warriors got the #2 spot in the NACC North)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 05:30:36 PM
I'm excited! Going to do a deep dive on WLC and see what we're up against
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:34:56 PM
Got to wonder about WLC's squad from a psychological standpoint, though. The potential is there, but how will they respond, given the roller coaster they've been on in their last 2 games? Fortunately, from what I've seen, Coach Treske is an upbeat, encouraging type of leader.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 05:48:40 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:34:56 PM
Got to wonder about WLC's squad from a psychological standpoint, though. The potential is there, but how will they respond, given the roller coaster they've been on in their last 2 games? Fortunately, from what I've seen, Coach Treske is an upbeat, encouraging type of leader.

Today's game for WLC is one of those where you take the best 10 plays from the game for WLC, play them in film review and burn the rest of the film. No matter how bad you get beat, it only counts as one loss. If they leave it behind them and get back to work, I think they'll be able to move forward from it.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:54:24 PM
WLC, CUW and Rockford all 1-2

WLC  beats Rockford 28-14, loses to CUW by 1  (point differential from those 2 games alone, plus 13)

Rockford beats CUW 20-14, loses to WLC 28-14  (point differential from those 2 games alone, minus 8)

CUW beats WLC by 1, loses to Rockford by 6       (point differential from those 2 games alone, minus 5)

I'm figuring the results against Lakeland didn't count in the determination. Unless I miscalculated, the above is the only way I figure WLC gets in. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:54:24 PM
WLC, CUW and Rockford all 1-2

WLC  beats Rockford 28-14, loses to CUW by 1  (point differential from those 2 games alone, plus 13)

Rockford beats CUW 20-14, loses to WLC 28-14  (point differential from those 2 games alone, minus 8)

CUW beats WLC by 1, loses to Rockford by 6       (point differential from those 2 games alone, minus 5)

I'm figuring the results against Lakeland didn't count in the determination. Unless I miscalculated, the above is the only way I figure WLC gets in.

I think you're right. That makes sense, the point differential of the 3 tied teams games was probably the tie break. Good call, WLCALUM! +k (if I was a veteran enough poster to give karma)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: MUC57 on April 03, 2021, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:54:24 PM
WLC, CUW and Rockford all 1-2

WLC  beats Rockford 28-14, loses to CUW by 1  (point differential from those 2 games alone, plus 13)

Rockford beats CUW 20-14, loses to WLC 28-14  (point differential from those 2 games alone, minus 8)

CUW beats WLC by 1, loses to Rockford by 6       (point differential from those 2 games alone, minus 5)

I'm figuring the results against Lakeland didn't count in the determination. Unless I miscalculated, the above is the only way I figure WLC gets in. I'm

I think you're right. That makes sense, the point differential of the 3 tied teams games was probably the tie break. Good call, WLCALUM! +k (if I was a veteran enough poster to give karma)

I gave him a +k for you. You're welcome! 🏈 🍺(And a +k for Yourself)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 04, 2021, 01:04:20 AM
Quote from: MUC57 on April 03, 2021, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on April 03, 2021, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 03, 2021, 05:54:24 PM
WLC, CUW and Rockford all 1-2

WLC  beats Rockford 28-14, loses to CUW by 1  (point differential from those 2 games alone, plus 13)

Rockford beats CUW 20-14, loses to WLC 28-14  (point differential from those 2 games alone, minus 8)

CUW beats WLC by 1, loses to Rockford by 6       (point differential from those 2 games alone, minus 5)

I'm figuring the results against Lakeland didn't count in the determination. Unless I miscalculated, the above is the only way I figure WLC gets in. I'm

I think you're right. That makes sense, the point differential of the 3 tied teams games was probably the tie break. Good call, WLCALUM! +k (if I was a veteran enough poster to give karma)

I gave him a +k for you. You're welcome! 🏈 🍺(And a +k for Yourself)

Haha, I appreciate it, MUC57!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 08, 2021, 08:50:55 PM
So after some research on WLC's spring squad (I basically ignored the Lakeland game), these are my takeaways:

1. Nick Yockey is a top QB in the NACC. He's only a Sophomore, but he spreads the ball around like an upperclassman and can make plays with his legs if needed. WLC goes as he goes.

2. Youth and talent at the Offensive skill positions. Jewell, Green and DuPree are all underclassmen, but they are capable of getting separation and creating after the catch. Jewell especially seems to have that competitive fire that can bring energy to the entire offense. Diedrick provides solid Senior leadership and can be a security blanket for Yockey. WLC's run game has struggled this spring, and the passing game will probably have to continue shouldering the load against a stacked Spartan defense.

3. Orlando Nicksion, Sophomore H-back, is the X factor on the Warrior offense. He has the size and athleticism to be a matchup nightmare. He'll have some size advantages if he can get matched up with AU's young safeties.

4. The strength of the WLC defense is their front 7 and ability to get after the passer. They have 2 guys in particular who have absolutely lit it up this season. Senior LB Mykael Ignaszak is always around the ball. He's played in over 30 games for the Warriors over his career, and his experience shows. The second guy is Nathan Ewaskowitz, Jr. DE. One of my favorite matchups to watch this weekend will be #97 in green going up against the Spartan Offensive Tackles.

Good luck to both teams this Saturday and, as always, go Spartans!
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Post by: Rhythm21 on April 08, 2021, 09:41:29 PM
History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year:

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17
Aurora: 08, (16), 19
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
Maranatha: -

*Lakeland leads with 5 total, 4 in a row during the Michael Whitley era.

*Aurora and Benedictine are tied with 3 each (2 outright for AU, 1 outright for BU)

*CUC has back to back titles from 2011 to 2012 (2012 being the outright champion)

*Was surprised to realize CUW has only one NACC championship to their name which came in 2013.

*WLC's title came in 2014 amidst a 3-way tie with Lakeland and Benedictine.

*Eureka surprised everyone (except maybe Eureka) and won the title in their inaugural NACC season.

*Rockford has struggled to get back on track since the NACC's inception, but their program is headed in the right direction.

*Maranatha dissolved their football program before winning one.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 09, 2021, 03:00:56 PM
The only NACC action on the docket tomorrow now is:

Rockford/Eureka and
CUW/Ripon

BOTH playoff games have been scratched due to COVID protocols.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 09, 2021, 03:03:41 PM
CUW/Ripon:  Falcons should win this one (they want to make a big-time statement after their 6-turnover game vs Rockford last week.)

Eureka/Rockford:  This could go either way, these teams are that evenly matched. Bradford and Manno (sp) vs. Regents' Owens and then the running game (Hughes vs Johnson)-a track meet-like score wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 09, 2021, 11:21:35 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 09, 2021, 03:00:56 PM
The only NACC action on the docket tomorrow now is:

Rockford/Eureka and
CUW/Ripon

BOTH playoff games have been scratched due to COVID protocols.

This sucks, but it's important to make sure everyone stays safe and is healthy for the fall season.

Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 09, 2021, 03:03:41 PM
CUW/Ripon:  Falcons should win this one (they want to make a big-time statement after their 6-turnover game vs Rockford last week.)

Eureka/Rockford:  This could go either way, these teams are that evenly matched. Bradford and Manno (sp) vs. Regents' Owens and then the running game (Hughes vs Johnson)-a track meet-like score wouldn't surprise me.

The Rockford game is intriguing because it is 2 programs I think heading in different directions. I'll be surprised if it's not a one score game going into the 4th. I think Rockford is ascending and will pull it out.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 10, 2021, 05:26:51 PM
CUW beats Ripon by 10, but the Ripon kicker missed on 2 FG attempts. Ripon scores 13 pts late to make it a bit interesting, but the Falcon defense came up with several sacks to hold Ripon off to get the win.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 10, 2021, 05:38:10 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 10, 2021, 05:26:51 PM
CUW beats Ripon by 10, but the Ripon kicker missed on 2 FG attempts. Ripon scores 13 pts late to make it a bit interesting, but the Falcon defense came up with several sacks to hold Ripon off to get the win.

#6 for Ripon was doing all he could to keep them in the game, but CUW pulled it off.

Meanwhile, no Jaelen Ray playing for Rockford today as far as I can tell, probably protecting him for the fall. The QB they have playing is having a rough go. He needs to start getting the ball in Joey Owens's hands or it's going to be a long day. Rockford's pass defense has come up with some takeaways and is playing well, but their run D cannot stop Joe Hughes and Eureka's run game. The 3rd quarter will indicate if this game will be a complete blowout or if Rockford has some fight left in 'em.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 10, 2021, 05:54:05 PM
Also, what hasn't helped is that on 2 occasions in the first half, the Regents' punter couldn't even get 4th down punts off, and Eureka, more often than not, will take advantage when there's a short field to work with offensively.
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Post by: Rhythm21 on April 11, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 10, 2021, 05:54:05 PM
Also, what hasn't helped is that on 2 occasions in the first half, the Regents' punter couldn't even get 4th down punts off, and Eureka, more often than not, will take advantage when there's a short field to work with offensively.

Very good point. Hard to win when your defense is expected to stop Joe Hughes from inside your own 10 yard line. And to his credit, Sam Cade Jr. came out and had a good 2nd half.

Any word on why CUC isn't playing these last 2 weeks?
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 11, 2021, 02:01:54 PM
I heard the Cougars had a lot of players injured.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 15, 2021, 09:17:38 AM
The Aurora/Lakeland game has been cancelled due to COVID protocols.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on April 15, 2021, 06:07:19 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 15, 2021, 09:17:38 AM
The Aurora/Lakeland game has been cancelled due to COVID protocols.

Such a shame. Hope all this madness is behind us come the fall season.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 17, 2021, 07:42:51 AM
Barring any further last-minute cancellations--

Eureka/CUW:  Falcon's QB Linn has shown he can guide the offense well enough to make it click. Methinks they might go the "ball control" route to keep Eureka's strong offense off the field as much as possible. Eureka RB Hughes and WR's Bradford and Mono have had very productive games of late.

WLC/Benedictine:  Warrior's Yockey's strong arm vs. a Benedictine defense that can be very opportunistic at times. The Warrior D will be tested big time trying to slow down Lopez & Co. I'm hoping that WLC puts up a strong showing.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 17, 2021, 05:38:29 PM
CUW/Eureka:  Hughes and Bradford apparently did not play for Eureka today. CUW's passing offense was hitting on all cylinders early and that, coupled with early Red Devil turnovers enabled the Falcons to get a big lead and hold on for the home win.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 17, 2021, 08:31:35 PM
Apparently, WLC/Benedictine was cancelled, too. (COVID protocols).

So 3 of the teams that  MISSED the NACC playoffs got to see more action-

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2021, 09:52:35 AM
Quote from: PlayerTurnedCoach13 on April 30, 2021, 09:36:24 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 11, 2021, 02:01:54 PM
I heard the Cougars had a lot of players injured.

I think it had a lot more to do with CUC only scoring 1 TD in 4 games and their coach resigning before the spring season started... what a mess

Aubry resigned?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on May 03, 2021, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2021, 09:52:35 AM
Quote from: PlayerTurnedCoach13 on April 30, 2021, 09:36:24 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on April 11, 2021, 02:01:54 PM
I heard the Cougars had a lot of players injured.

I think it had a lot more to do with CUC only scoring 1 TD in 4 games and their coach resigning before the spring season started... what a mess

Aubry resigned?

Did he already? He's still listed on CUC's site, but that program's been in middle-to-back of the pack limbo for the better part of a decade so it wouldnt surprise me.
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Post by: Captain_Joe08 on May 03, 2021, 09:43:39 PM
CUC is at a crossroads. They are slipping backwards towards the time were they struggled to win a game in the Illni-Badger. The period when they were a force in the NACC looks distant at this point.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on May 06, 2021, 01:58:52 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on May 03, 2021, 09:43:39 PM
CUC is at a crossroads. They are slipping backwards towards the time were they struggled to win a game in the Illni-Badger. The period when they were a force in the NACC looks distant at this point.

Too true. Their offense was fierce back in the early 2010's. Looks like they have struggled to find a gameplan that fits their QB's strengths these last 5+ seasons.

But on another note, AU just started to announce their incoming recruits for this fall on twitter. Here is the link if you anyone wants to check them out: https://twitter.com/AU_SpartanFB?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I've already mentioned a few recruits in this class with highlights that caught my eye. Riley Caines and Drew Henson to name a couple (Both now officially committed) along with a few others. And I haven't gone through the recruiting class completely yet, but with Tyran Bailey only having one year of eligibility left, keep an eye on incoming freshman Martease Edwards from Tennessee (https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9955398/5f5b8a4c19a59d018c885c23) . Everyone else on the field looked like they were playing in slow motion. He's listed at 5'9 185 and played corner, RB and was also used in the return game (This last part being a theme with the recruits in the last couple classes). At each position, he played with physicality and instinct. He has great hands and I believe he fits perfectly with what Coach Beebe wants in his RB. I don't think there is a chance he doesn't find his way onto the field this fall. He can be used in all 3 phases.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on May 16, 2021, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on April 08, 2021, 09:41:29 PM
History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year:

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17
Aurora: 08, (16), 19
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
Maranatha: -

*Lakeland leads with 5 total, 4 in a row during the Michael Whitley era.

*Aurora and Benedictine are tied with 3 each (2 outright for AU, 1 outright for BU)

*CUC has back to back titles from 2011 to 2012 (2012 being the outright champion)

*Was surprised to realize CUW has only one NACC championship to their name which came in 2013.

*WLC's title came in 2014 amidst a 3-way tie with Lakeland and Benedictine.

*Eureka surprised everyone (except maybe Eureka) and won the title in their inaugural NACC season.

*Rockford has struggled to get back on track since the NACC's inception, but their program is headed in the right direction.

*Maranatha dissolved their football program before winning one.

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20)
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
Maranatha: -
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on July 16, 2021, 07:35:56 PM
2021 Season is right around the corner and Aurora has released a 2021 roster with a ton of seniors from last season returning. Zimbelman, Bailey, Jewell, Reyna, Stark, Martz, Nava and many more are all back as Graduates ready to make a run at another NACC championship  8-)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: gbpuckfan on July 28, 2021, 06:41:47 PM
So, is anyone in the NACC worried about SNC joining the league? Or looking forward to another win?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on July 29, 2021, 09:05:45 AM
Quote from: gbpuckfan on July 28, 2021, 06:41:47 PM
So, is anyone in the NACC worried about SNC joining the league? Or looking forward to another win?

Went back to the St. Norbert's 2019 schedule, saw that they played NACC squad Aurora that year and lost 50-40 (and won big over most of their MWC opponents except for Lake Forest and Monmouth.)

St. Norbert should get its' share of NACC wins. The tests for the Green Knights this year appear to be Benedictine, Lakeland and Aurora, imho. Concordia-Chicago appeared to be the weakest NACC team last spring. Rockford has potential if QB Ray and several other good Regent players return.  "X" factors--CUW, WLC (should the Warrior D improve) and Eureka.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on July 29, 2021, 09:39:47 AM
St. Norbert all-time records vs. future NACC opponents as of 7/29/2021:

Vs. Aurora:  1-1   (2018-2019)           
Vs. Benedictine:  1-3  (1988-89, 2016-17)
Vs. Concordia-WI:  2-2 (1992-95)
Vs. Lakeland 2-0 (1961-62)

Have yet to play Concordia-Chicago, Eureka, Rockford and WLC.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on August 02, 2021, 10:15:44 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on July 29, 2021, 09:05:45 AM
Quote from: gbpuckfan on July 28, 2021, 06:41:47 PM
So, is anyone in the NACC worried about SNC joining the league? Or looking forward to another win?

Went back to the St. Norbert's 2019 schedule, saw that they played NACC squad Aurora that year and lost 50-40 (and won big over most of their MWC opponents except for Lake Forest and Monmouth.)

St. Norbert should get its' share of NACC wins. The tests for the Green Knights this year appear to be Benedictine, Lakeland and Aurora, imho. Concordia-Chicago appeared to be the weakest NACC team last spring. Rockford has potential if QB Ray and several other good Regent players return.  "X" factors--CUW, WLC (should the Warrior D improve) and Eureka.

As a Green Knight fan, I'm looking forward to a season in which I have no idea what will happen. The annual run through their Midwest Conference slate had become about as predictable as the sunrise (minus the Monmouth games).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 09, 2021, 03:58:40 PM
Quote from: WW on August 02, 2021, 10:15:44 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on July 29, 2021, 09:05:45 AM
Quote from: gbpuckfan on July 28, 2021, 06:41:47 PM
So, is anyone in the NACC worried about SNC joining the league? Or looking forward to another win?

Went back to the St. Norbert's 2019 schedule, saw that they played NACC squad Aurora that year and lost 50-40 (and won big over most of their MWC opponents except for Lake Forest and Monmouth.)

St. Norbert should get its' share of NACC wins. The tests for the Green Knights this year appear to be Benedictine, Lakeland and Aurora, imho. Concordia-Chicago appeared to be the weakest NACC team last spring. Rockford has potential if QB Ray and several other good Regent players return.  "X" factors--CUW, WLC (should the Warrior D improve) and Eureka.

As a Green Knight fan, I'm looking forward to a season in which I have no idea what will happen. The annual run through their Midwest Conference slate had become about as predictable as the sunrise (minus the Monmouth games).

Eureka joined the league and won the NACC title in year one when I thought they had no chance. Wouldn't be surprised if St Norbert went on a similar run to finish top 3 this season, but I think Aurora, with the talent and experience they have returning, is the team to beat. Should be an exciting season.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on August 11, 2021, 07:30:58 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on August 09, 2021, 03:58:40 PM
Quote from: WW on August 02, 2021, 10:15:44 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on July 29, 2021, 09:05:45 AM
Quote from: gbpuckfan on July 28, 2021, 06:41:47 PM
So, is anyone in the NACC worried about SNC joining the league? Or looking forward to another win?

Went back to the St. Norbert's 2019 schedule, saw that they played NACC squad Aurora that year and lost 50-40 (and won big over most of their MWC opponents except for Lake Forest and Monmouth.)

St. Norbert should get its' share of NACC wins. The tests for the Green Knights this year appear to be Benedictine, Lakeland and Aurora, imho. Concordia-Chicago appeared to be the weakest NACC team last spring. Rockford has potential if QB Ray and several other good Regent players return.  "X" factors--CUW, WLC (should the Warrior D improve) and Eureka.

As a Green Knight fan, I'm looking forward to a season in which I have no idea what will happen. The annual run through their Midwest Conference slate had become about as predictable as the sunrise (minus the Monmouth games).

Eureka joined the league and won the NACC title in year one when I thought they had no chance. Wouldn't be surprised if St Norbert went on a similar run to finish top 3 this season, but I think Aurora, with the talent and experience they have returning, is the team to beat. Should be an exciting season.

Yep, WIDE open. I have no insight into rosters, significant returnees, anything. Based on recent competitive history, which could be completely irrelevant by now, top 3 might be a reach for SNC. Their N-C schedule is perfect, though. And to open conference against a natural rival (plus there's some juice built up on chippy JV matchups over recent years), dang, Sheboygan Showdown will be big
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on August 12, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
SNC and Aurora will be top 2.

Norby is an extremely tough place to play.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: sncdangler on August 18, 2021, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 12, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
SNC and Aurora will be top 2.

Norby is an extremely tough place to play.

Why? Legit curious why you feel that way.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on August 20, 2021, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: sncdangler on August 18, 2021, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 12, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
SNC and Aurora will be top 2.

Norby is an extremely tough place to play.

Why? Legit curious why you feel that way.

I view the NAC as not much different than the MWC. SNC will be a tier above every team except AU now that BB is there. Norby gets good crowds and every time Monmouth has played there it's been cold and windy. Good atmosphere.

SNC issue is their offense. For whatever reason, they have gone hybrid wingT and you can not win in the playoffs w that offense. Too predictable and don't have the players for it.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: sncdangler on August 20, 2021, 11:36:23 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 20, 2021, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: sncdangler on August 18, 2021, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 12, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
SNC and Aurora will be top 2.

Norby is an extremely tough place to play.

Why? Legit curious why you feel that way.

I view the NAC as not much different than the MWC. SNC will be a tier above every team except AU now that BB is there. Norby gets good crowds and every time Monmouth has played there it's been cold and windy. Good atmosphere.

SNC issue is their offense. For whatever reason, they have gone hybrid wingT and you can not win in the playoffs w that offense. Too predictable and don't have the players for it.

My question was about why SNC is a tough place to play.

As for the offense, you mean the offense SNC ran when they drilled Trine on the road a year after Monmouth got boatraced by the same program?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2021, 12:41:57 PM
Beating Trine is not the same as beating a team from the CCIW, WIAC or MIAC that St. Norbert would have to face to really get anywhere in the postseason.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: sncdangler on August 20, 2021, 01:57:04 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2021, 12:41:57 PM
Beating Trine is not the same as beating a team from the CCIW, WIAC or MIAC that St. Norbert would have to face to really get anywhere in the postseason.

I never asserted otherwise. Just getting in a dig at our former rival. Thanks for your vigilance.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 23, 2021, 04:11:55 PM
Fall 2021 NACC Football Pre-Season Poll is now up:

https://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2021-22/releases/202108217k92xj
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on August 24, 2021, 09:41:53 AM
Quote from: sncdangler on August 20, 2021, 11:36:23 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 20, 2021, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: sncdangler on August 18, 2021, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 12, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
SNC and Aurora will be top 2.

Norby is an extremely tough place to play.

Why? Legit curious why you feel that way.

I view the NAC as not much different than the MWC. SNC will be a tier above every team except AU now that BB is there. Norby gets good crowds and every time Monmouth has played there it's been cold and windy. Good atmosphere.

SNC issue is their offense. For whatever reason, they have gone hybrid wingT and you can not win in the playoffs w that offense. Too predictable and don't have the players for it.

My question was about why SNC is a tough place to play.

As for the offense, you mean the offense SNC ran when they drilled Trine on the road a year after Monmouth got boatraced by the same program?

Trine fumbled the ball 6x that day and threw 3ints. SNC defense scored 14pts. Trine's QB the year prior was one of the top 5 players in country. He makes all the difference.

SNC plays tremendous defense.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on August 24, 2021, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 20, 2021, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: sncdangler on August 18, 2021, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 12, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
SNC and Aurora will be top 2.

Norby is an extremely tough place to play.

Why? Legit curious why you feel that way.

I view the NAC as not much different than the MWC. SNC will be a tier above every team except AU now that BB is there. Norby gets good crowds and every time Monmouth has played there it's been cold and windy. Good atmosphere.

SNC issue is their offense. For whatever reason, they have gone hybrid wingT and you can not win in the playoffs w that offense. Too predictable and don't have the players for it.

Can't claim to be an authority on SNC's offense, but if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, that's more of a situational set rather than an offense identity. Otherwise, the last few years they really seem to customize the O to the strengths of the available skill set, which have been highly variable.

Really impressed by what Aurora's taking on in the NC schedule--at St. John's, at North Central. Jeez, were the Patriots and Buccaneers not available?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on August 24, 2021, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: WW on August 24, 2021, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 20, 2021, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: sncdangler on August 18, 2021, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 12, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
SNC and Aurora will be top 2.

Norby is an extremely tough place to play.

Why? Legit curious why you feel that way.

I view the NAC as not much different than the MWC. SNC will be a tier above every team except AU now that BB is there. Norby gets good crowds and every time Monmouth has played there it's been cold and windy. Good atmosphere.

SNC issue is their offense. For whatever reason, they have gone hybrid wingT and you can not win in the playoffs w that offense. Too predictable and don't have the players for it.

Can't claim to be an authority on SNC's offense, but if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, that's more of a situational set rather than an offense identity. Otherwise, the last few years they really seem to customize the O to the strengths of the available skill set, which have been highly variable.

Really impressed by what Aurora's taking on in the NC schedule--at St. John's, at North Central. Jeez, were the Patriots and Buccaneers not available?

SNC went all in on a version of the WingT about 3-4 years ago. Fired their OC and all.

Love to see what AU has done with their schedule. Curious to see how it plays out for them
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 30, 2021, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: WW on August 24, 2021, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 20, 2021, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: sncdangler on August 18, 2021, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: BigRedScots on August 12, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
SNC and Aurora will be top 2.

Norby is an extremely tough place to play.

Why? Legit curious why you feel that way.

I view the NAC as not much different than the MWC. SNC will be a tier above every team except AU now that BB is there. Norby gets good crowds and every time Monmouth has played there it's been cold and windy. Good atmosphere.

SNC issue is their offense. For whatever reason, they have gone hybrid wingT and you can not win in the playoffs w that offense. Too predictable and don't have the players for it.

Can't claim to be an authority on SNC's offense, but if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, that's more of a situational set rather than an offense identity. Otherwise, the last few years they really seem to customize the O to the strengths of the available skill set, which have been highly variable.

Really impressed by what Aurora's taking on in the NC schedule--at St. John's, at North Central. Jeez, were the Patriots and Buccaneers not available?

Yeah, Beebe is trying to get the Spartans playoff ready early. I love what we have coming back and I think the NCC game will give us an indication of how far Aurora can go. There's a chip on our Seniors' shoulders because of that playoff loss to St. John's. They've spent nearly 2 years thinking about the 4 points they lost by, so I expect AU to come out swinging week 1. Should be a great season, look forward to Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: DuffMan on September 01, 2021, 03:10:59 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on August 30, 2021, 03:03:44 PM
There's a chip on our Seniors' shoulders because of that playoff loss to St. John's. They've spent nearly 2 years thinking about the 4 points they lost by, so I expect AU to come out swinging week 1. Should be a great season, look forward to Saturday.

I still have nightmares about that game.  This Saturday should be fun.  I don't really know what to expect out of the Johnnies--lots of question marks.  Safe travels to all making the trek north!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: gbpuckfan on September 03, 2021, 05:13:12 PM
SNC preview:
https://fox11online.com/sports/college/new-conference-same-expectations-at-st-norbert-college
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2021, 02:26:34 PM
Updates:  Benedictine 10, Kenyon 3  Half

               NE Wes 21, Eureka 0 Approx. 8 min left in 1st Qrtr

               Rockford 14,Grinnell 0 About 4 min left in 1st Qrtr

               CUW/MLC and SNC/Loras both scoreless late in 1st Qrtr

               I'm leaving Aurora/St. John's to those on the MIAC board.)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2021, 02:47:21 PM
Updates:  Halftime:  NE Wesleyan 28, Eureka 6
                         
               Late 2nd Qrtr:  MLC 7 CUW 0 (Aguilar, 20 yd TD run)

               Loras/St. Norbert still scoreless late in 2nd

               Rockford 14, Grinnell 0 midway thru 2nd

               Benedictine 10, Kenyon 10 midway thru 3rd Qrtr
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2021, 03:07:24 PM
Further Updates:  MLC/CUW tied at 14 with under a minute to go til half

                          SNC over Loras 7-0 (Kohl 28 yd TD run)

                          Benedictine/Kenyon tied at 17 just over 2 min left in 3rd Qrtr

                          Rockford 21, Grinnell 0 Half

                          NE Wes 28, Eureka 6 2nd Qrtr  (streaming issues here).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2021, 03:11:20 PM
Benedictine 24, Kenyon 17 End of 3rd Qrtr
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2021, 04:05:06 PM
Updates:  Benedictine and Kenyon are going to OT tied at 31!

               Rockford 41, Grinnell 0  14 1/2 minutes left

               Loras & St. Norbert tied at 14 late in 3rd  (Green Knights just got a long kick return for the tying TD)

               CUW 28, MLC 14, Start of 4th Qrtr 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2021, 04:17:37 PM
NACC Final:  Benedictine 34, Kenyon 31  OT  (IL Eagles D holds Kenyon, then gets the FG for the win herre).

Others:  Rockford 48, Grinnell 6  Just under 8 minutes left

            Loras and St. Norbert tied at 14  less than 13 minutes left

            CUW 28, MLC 14  Less than 10 minutes left.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2021, 04:32:30 PM
Finals:  Rockford 48, Grinnell 13.

           CUW 28,MLC 21

           St. Norbert 21, Loras 14



Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: gbpuckfan on September 04, 2021, 05:39:04 PM
Final
Loras 14
St. Norbert 21

Loras moved the ball pretty well all day but had too many plays for loss. Loras put together one very long nice drive for a TD. The second score was a short field after SNC muffed a punt at its own 15.

SNC had an early lead. Then got a 95 yard Kickoff return for a TD to tie it at 14, right after the Duhawk short-field TD that was the huge play.

SNC got one final drive to take the lead. And then forced a fumble on what was Loras' last chance.

I haven't looked at the stats but guessing Loras outgained SNC. The Loras QB was a lot to handle.

A good win to start the season for the Green Knights.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2021, 08:21:58 PM
Halftime scores:  CUC 23, Beloit 0  (Bucs had a golden opportunity after a big gainer late in the 2nd quarter, but on one of the ensuing plays, a pass was deflected and intercepted in the end zone by Concordia-Chicago.)

                         WLC 10, Lake Forest 6
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 04, 2021, 09:57:44 PM
NACC Late Game finals:  Lake Forest 27, WLC 10

                                    CUC 30, Beloit 7
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 05, 2021, 12:26:15 AM
Conference goes 6-3 in week one of non-con's. Best start that the league has had in some time.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 05, 2021, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 05, 2021, 12:26:15 AM
Conference goes 6-3 in week one of non-con's. Best start that the league has had in some time.

Didn't expect NE Wesleyan's D to be that good yesterday. Prairie Wolves got out of the gate fast and Eureka had too big a mountain to climb.

Rockford may make some big-time noise if its' offense keeps clicking like it did against Grinnell. (Ray-to-Owens combo- 2 TDs)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 05, 2021, 10:30:41 PM
Aurora v St John's II lived up to all the hype. Great game coming down to a 4th down and goal from the 1. I'm sick for the players that we couldn't punch it in, they played with heart and fought till the end.

The negatives:
*Our trenches on both side struggled with the size/speed combo of St. John's. The Johnnies are #6 in the country for a reason and they showed it.

*We played terribly with the lead. 2 to 3 times throughout the game, our defense would get the ball back to our offense with the lead and a chance to extend it and we would go 3 and out and punt it back. We needed to make way more plays with the lead.

The positives:
*Our offense is as dangerous as ever. Gavin missed a few throws he should have probably completed, but he completed just as many that other QBs wouldn't have been able to.

*Our defense has playmakers. 2 that come to mind are Reyna ( I believe a 5th year Sr.) at safety and Pratt, who gained experience during the shortened spring season. Romious and Martz provide veteran leadership at LB and Peterson is a shut-down #1 CB who should be talked about more nationally imo.

*Special teams was a net negative for us, with the wind playing a huge role in our return game's struggles and us missing an extra point as well as a 2 point attempt.

There are no moral victories in college football, so I dont expect anyone to be happy with the result. But with the defending national champions coming up next, I like where the team is this early in the season. I expect another dog fight from our guys this coming weekend in Naperville.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 05, 2021, 10:51:29 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 05, 2021, 12:26:15 AM
Conference goes 6-3 in week one of non-con's. Best start that the league has had in some time.

Congrats to St. Norbert, starting their NACC tenure with a W. Also, congrats to Rockford, BU, CUW, CUC and Lakeland for starting the season off on the right foot.

Jaelen Ray and Joey Owens of Rockford are going to be a tandem to watch out for this year.

I only watched the first quarter and and half of the WLC game and was surprised to see the result. I thought WLC's defense was holding their own and Yockey, Parbes, Dupree and company looked to be clicking early

Eureka should just burn the game tape and start from scratch.

BU with a clutch overtime field goal to kick off an exciting 2021 season. Let's see if they can keep riding that high into week 2.

St. Norbert comes from behind to take down Loras with a big time KO return for a touchdown tying the game up at 14 near the end of the 3rd.

CUW has an experienced QB in Linn, a quality back in Montgomery and veteran WRs in Houlihan and Booker. The question for them, as it has been the last few years, is will they get consistent play out of their defense week in and week out.

Concordia Chicago is in rebuild mode with a new coaching staff taking over (3rd new staff in 5 years?) I don't know what to expect from this Cougar squad, especially after them coming out and beating Beloit 30-7 in week 1. Maybe the biggest mystery of the 2021 NACC season.

6-3 start is excellent. Good luck to all teams in week 2.

Edit: Almost forgot about Lakeland, who played on Thursday. Nunnery and Rivers are back and Lakeland's defense is fast. This is a top 2-3 team this season. Circle the Lakeland-Aurora game on November 6th.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2021, 07:06:26 PM
Aurora moves up to #21 in the D3football polls. I'm glad they didn't get docked for coming up a yard short against the #6 ranked team in the country. Starting the season 0-2, even against 2 top 10 teams, would not bode well for our playoff seeding (if we can take the NACC title.) With this team's senior leadership and Beebe at the helm, I know we'll come out strong against North Central. Hopefully we can get a W and prove we deserve our spot in the top 25 . . . Is it Saturday yet?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on September 08, 2021, 11:38:01 AM
AU is clearly a top 25 team. I'd even say they are clearly a top 10-15 team.

The positive from Saturday is that in 2019 the program didn't know if they could hang with a St. John's until the season was over. Now, this team knows they can hang with the biggest programs in the country and belong there.

Excited to see how they fare vs NCC.

NCC and St. Johns are good matchups for AU. If they were to play a top team that's a run first offense, I think that would give them some issues.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 08, 2021, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 08, 2021, 11:38:01 AM
AU is clearly a top 25 team. I'd even say they are clearly a top 10-15 team.

The positive from Saturday is that in 2019 the program didn't know if they could hang with a St. John's until the season was over. Now, this team knows they can hang with the biggest programs in the country and belong there.

Excited to see how they fare vs NCC.

NCC and St. Johns are good matchups for AU. If they were to play a top team that's a run first offense, I think that would give them some issues.

Very good points. Now the question is can they move up from hanging with the big programs and start to take down the big programs.

And you're right about the matchups. I think AU, for all the skill position strides they've made, still doesn't have the size necessarily to take on a Wisconsin Whitewater, who will just pound the ball between the tackles for 60 minutes straight. I'm expecting a close game this Saturday, hopefully they can pull it off.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Next Man Up on September 09, 2021, 03:56:41 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 05, 2021, 10:30:41 PM
Aurora v St John's II lived up to all the hype. Great game coming down to a 4th down and goal from the 1. I'm sick for the players that we couldn't punch it in, they played with heart and fought till the end.

The negatives:
*Our trenches on both side struggled with the size/speed combo of St. John's. The Johnnies are #6 in the country for a reason and they showed it.

*We played terribly with the lead. 2 to 3 times throughout the game, our defense would get the ball back to our offense with the lead and a chance to extend it and we would go 3 and out and punt it back. We needed to make way more plays with the lead.

The positives:
*Our offense is as dangerous as ever. Gavin missed a few throws he should have probably completed, but he completed just as many that other QBs wouldn't have been able to.

*Our defense has playmakers. 2 that come to mind are Reyna ( I believe a 5th year Sr.) at safety and Pratt, who gained experience during the shortened spring season. Romious and Martz provide veteran leadership at LB and Peterson is a shut-down #1 CB who should be talked about more nationally imo.

*Special teams was a net negative for us, with the wind playing a huge role in our return game's struggles and us missing an extra point as well as a 2 point attempt.

There are no moral victories in college football, so I dont expect anyone to be happy with the result. But with the defending national champions coming up next, I like where the team is this early in the season. I expect another dog fight from our guys this coming weekend in Naperville.

With regard to the negatives detailed above;

1. If AU struggled in the trenches vs SJU, expect more of the same vs NCC. The Cardinals have 3 of 4 DL starters back from a Top 20 Defense. Offensively, 3 of 5 O linemen return and I believe one of the second teamers has been a starter in the past. This is no guarantee of victory for the easternmost of the combatants, but it's not likely AU will have any easier of a time time up front vs NCC than they did vs SJU.

2. With regard to playing poorly with the lead, I'd say getting an early lead in Naperville might be one of AU's keys to victory. I say that because NC is going to be led by a rookie QB inexperienced in playing with a lead let alone engineering a comeback. If the Cards fall behind, will their QB, through his inexperience, take unnecessary risks in his attempt to play catch-up? Another thing that AU fans can take encouragement from is that with AU being led by such an experienced and skillful QB, it's not that likely that they'll again suffer the same malady of performing poorly should they gain an appreciable (2 TD minimum) lead. However, even if the Cardinals fall behind, keep in mind that they're a National Championship team full of pride and sporting superior players at all of the skill positions. The inexperienced NCC QB, certainly won't have to do it all himself should a comeback be necessary. Also, regarding this point, a question that comes to mind is did the Spartans really play "poorly" with the lead, or did SJU only begin to play to their capabilities after falling behind?

Concerning the comments under Positives;

1. No doubt the AU defense has playmakers. They didn't get where they are without some. Do they have enough to combat the collective talents of players like, not to see the linemen short, Greenfield, Kamienski, Williams, Hardy, and Hill?

2. Who knows what will happen on Special Teams? Two things that may be noteworthy on the NCC side is that they will be breaking in both a new (freshman) long-snapper, and a new kicker. Hold your breath!
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Post by: Next Man Up on September 09, 2021, 04:06:42 PM
Trench Warfare.......

The weather prediction for Saturday in Naperville is sunny and 88 miserably hot and energy sapping degrees. Might this make victory largely dependent on not only skill, but depth in the trenches? You need not be the sharpest tack in the box to realize that this type of playing environment will be capable of quickly sapping the strength and energy of the lumbering 275-300 pound behemoths constantly pounding the hell out of each other.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 09, 2021, 05:10:44 PM
Quote from: Next Man Up on September 09, 2021, 03:56:41 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 05, 2021, 10:30:41 PM
Aurora v St John's II lived up to all the hype. Great game coming down to a 4th down and goal from the 1. I'm sick for the players that we couldn't punch it in, they played with heart and fought till the end.

The negatives:
*Our trenches on both side struggled with the size/speed combo of St. John's. The Johnnies are #6 in the country for a reason and they showed it.

*We played terribly with the lead. 2 to 3 times throughout the game, our defense would get the ball back to our offense with the lead and a chance to extend it and we would go 3 and out and punt it back. We needed to make way more plays with the lead.

The positives:
*Our offense is as dangerous as ever. Gavin missed a few throws he should have probably completed, but he completed just as many that other QBs wouldn't have been able to.

*Our defense has playmakers. 2 that come to mind are Reyna ( I believe a 5th year Sr.) at safety and Pratt, who gained experience during the shortened spring season. Romious and Martz provide veteran leadership at LB and Peterson is a shut-down #1 CB who should be talked about more nationally imo.

*Special teams was a net negative for us, with the wind playing a huge role in our return game's struggles and us missing an extra point as well as a 2 point attempt.

There are no moral victories in college football, so I dont expect anyone to be happy with the result. But with the defending national champions coming up next, I like where the team is this early in the season. I expect another dog fight from our guys this coming weekend in Naperville.

With regard to the negatives detailed above;

1. If AU struggled in the trenches vs SJU, expect more of the same vs NCC. The Cardinals have 3 of 4 DL starters back from a Top 20 Defense. Offensively, 3 of 5 O linemen return and I believe one of the second teamers has been a starter in the past. This is no guarantee of victory for the easternmost of the combatants, but it's not likely AU will have any easier of a time time up front vs NCC than they did vs SJU.

2. With regard to playing poorly with the lead, I'd say getting an early lead in Naperville might be one of AU's keys to victory. I say that because NC is going to be led by a rookie QB inexperienced in playing with a lead let alone engineering a comeback. If the Cards fall behind, will their QB, through his inexperience, take unnecessary risks in his attempt to play catch-up? Another thing that AU fans can take encouragement from is that with AU being led by such an experienced and skillful QB, it's not that likely that they'll again suffer the same malady of performing poorly should they gain an appreciable (2 TD minimum) lead. However, even if the Cardinals fall behind, keep in mind that they're a National Championship team full of pride and sporting superior players at all of the skill positions. The inexperienced NCC QB, certainly won't have to do it all himself should a comeback be necessary. Also, regarding this point, a question that comes to mind is did the Spartans really play "poorly" with the lead, or did SJU only begin to play to their capabilities after falling behind?

Concerning the comments under Positives;

1. No doubt the AU defense has playmakers. They didn't get where they are without some. Do they have enough to combat the collective talents of players like, not to see the linemen short, Greenfield, Kamienski, Williams, Hardy, and Hill?

2. Who knows what will happen on Special Teams? Two things that may be noteworthy on the NCC side is that they will be breaking in both a new (freshman) long-snapper, and a new kicker. Hold your breath!

Very true on all counts. AU cannot play NCC from behind. When it comes to the trenches, at least where the NCC Offensive line is concerned, I think the sizes are a little more equal to our defensive line than St. John's was, at least based on the depth charts NCC released. I know Central has a super talented RB and if I'm not mistaken a couple All Americans on the offensive line (Guard Sharmore Clark has been an All American since he was a freshman), do no doubt we will have to come up with some takeaways to slow that offenses roll.

New kicker and new quarterback could come into play if it's close going into the 4th. But I did hear NCC's freshman QB has more scrambling capability than Rutter, so maybe we're gonna have Martz spy him on most plays. We'll see, should be a good one.
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Post by: Next Man Up on September 09, 2021, 05:33:00 PM
With utmost respect to the overall brilliance that was Broc Rutter, much more.  ;)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 12:23:08 PM
Early NACC Update:  Concordia-Chicago 7, Finlandia 0  1st Quarter
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 11, 2021, 12:29:20 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 12:23:08 PM
Early NACC Update:  Concordia-Chicago 7, Finlandia 0  1st Quarter
WLCALUM83 - You must be actually watching the stream of this game because you could only know the score if you are watching it because there is no livestats, no audio, and no score (0-0) given on the bottom of the screen. Impressed.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 12:37:45 PM
The one camera pans over to the scoreboard when the teams move to the right end zone.

Cougars have scored again, it's 13-0 with less than 12 minutes left in the 1st half.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 12:53:45 PM
Concordia-Chicago 20, Finlandia 0 approx 4 minutes left in 1st half.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 01:11:32 PM
Concordia-Chicago 20, Finlandia 2  Half (A Lion punt pinned the Cougars at their own 1-yard line and the Lion D did the rest to get on the board.)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 01:48:03 PM
No score yet in Lakeland/Anderson, but Anderson has it deep in Muskie territory early in 1st.

Anderson up 7-0, pinned Muskies deep in own territory, a late 4th down rushing gamble failed and Anderson took advantage.

Still 20-2 Cougars midway thru 3rd in the other  on-going game.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 01:56:12 PM
Didn't take long for Lakeland to tie Anderson (Nunnery completed a 31 yd TD pass)  7-7 approx 9 min left in 1st Qrtr.

Concordia-Chicago has scored again on a Sepulvida TD pass, it's now 26-2 Cougars, less than 4 minutes left in 3rd.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 02:28:50 PM
Anderson 14, Lakeland 14 Less than 13 min. left in 2nd Qrtr. Nunnery has thrown for 2 TDs (latest for more than 60 yds on 3rd and very long).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 02:35:55 PM
First NACC Final:  Concordia-Chicago 26, Finlandia 2.

Later afternoon games:  UW-Stout 7, St. Norbert 6 early 2nd Qrtr
                 
                     MLC 14, WLC 0 Just under 13 min left in half.

                     Olivet 21, Eureka 0 approx 2 min left in first 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 03:01:59 PM
Lakeland is now up 21-17 on Anderson with 1/12 min left in 1st half

1st later afternoon NACC  game:  Greenville 14, Rockford 0 approx 4 min left in 1st Qrtr.

Others:  MLC 21, WLC 7 late in 2nd Qrtr.

             UW-Stout 10, St, Norbert 6 2nd Qrtr.

            Olivet 21, Eureka 6 approx. 10 min left in 2nd Qrtr
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 03:13:24 PM
Lakeland 28, Anderson 17  Half

Judson/Concordia-WI just underway

MLC 21, WLC 14  Half

UW-Stout 13, St. Norbert 6  Half

Olivet 21 Eureka 6  under 6 min left in 1st half

Greenville 14, Rockford 0  under 12 min left in 1st half

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 03:36:42 PM
Updates on 2 games:

Olivet 28, Eureka 9  Half

Judson CUW started out like a track meet- Falcons up 14-12 with approx. 3 min left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 04:15:02 PM
It's looking like mostly Blowout City in several of these NACC games:

Greenville 41, Rockford 14 Half

MLC 42, WLC 14 3rd Qrtr

The one blowout in NACC's favor:  Lakeland 48, Anderson 19 late in the 3rd Qrtr.

UW-Stout 34, St. Norbert 6 early in 4th Qrtr

Olivet 35, Eureka 16 Approx 10 min left in 3rd Qrtr

Concordia-WI 21, Judson 20 Approx 4 min left in 2nd Qrtr
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 05:19:56 PM
Finals:  Lakeland 54, Anderson 41 (Not as close as final score indicates)

            Olivet 42, Eureka 23

            UW-Stout 34, St. Norbert 14

            MLC 42, WLC 28

Afternoon games in progress yet:  Concordia WI 28, Judson 20 less than 2 min left in 3rd Qrtr
                                                  Greenville 50 Rockford 28 less than 6 1/2 left in the 4th Qrtr             
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 05:49:04 PM
Concordia-WI 35, Judson 20 less than 8 minutes left-Falcons returned a blocked punt for a TD.

The above score is now final.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2021, 08:03:12 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 05:49:04 PM
Concordia-WI 35, Judson 20 less than 8 minutes left-Falcons returned a blocked punt for a TD.

The above score is now final.

Hmm. I didn't even know that Judson had a football program.

Turns out that last Saturday was Judson's first-ever football game. (http://www.judsoneagles.com/article/football/judson-football-announces-home-field-during-inaugural-media-day)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 11, 2021, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2021, 08:03:12 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 11, 2021, 05:49:04 PM
Concordia-WI 35, Judson 20 less than 8 minutes left-Falcons returned a blocked punt for a TD.

The above score is now final.

Hmm. I didn't even know that Judson had a football program.

Turns out that last Saturday was Judson's first-ever football game. (http://www.judsoneagles.com/article/football/judson-football-announces-home-field-during-inaugural-media-day)
Back in the way-back, Judson was in the same conference as Benedictine, Rockford, CUC, Aurora, etc. the Northern Illinois - Iowa Conference.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2021, 08:52:52 PM
OK, first football game in many, many years, then. ;)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 11, 2021, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2021, 08:52:52 PM
OK, first football game in many, many years, then. ;)
Sorry! They were in the same conference for all sports but not football. The football playing schools were in the old Illini-Badger Conference.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2021, 09:02:11 PM
Yes, I remember the NIIC and the IBC very well. What I didn't remember was Judson having a football team, and I wasn't sure if the NIIC sponsored football prior to the creation of the IBC. But I figured that since it's your alma mater's former leagues I'd defer to you on this.  :)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 11, 2021, 09:05:23 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2021, 09:02:11 PM
Yes, I remember the NIIC and the IBC very well. What I didn't remember was Judson having a football team, and I wasn't sure if the NIIC sponsored football prior to the creation of the IBC. But I figured that since it's your alma mater's former leagues I'd defer to you on this.  :)

No, I don't remember Judson having football either. Maybe in the leather helmet days?!?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2021, 09:16:54 PM
That sounds possible, but a quick search just revealed that six days ago the Daily Herald stated that last Saturday's game against Taylor was Judson's first-ever football game.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 11, 2021, 09:44:02 PM
I think you guys are right. I couldn't find any past articles or other history to indicate that Judson University (formerly Judson College) ever had a football team before now (i.e before the school's decision on 2018 to add football). Indeed, according to info on the internet, Judson College was a member of the old Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference before some schools of that conference merged with schools from the Lake Michigan Conference. However, there is no history of having a college varsity football program there prior to this current one that I could find.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Baldini on September 12, 2021, 02:06:14 AM
Who did Robert Morris merge with? Was it Judson University? Maybe that is why football is on the campus this year?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Next Man Up on September 12, 2021, 02:17:01 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 12, 2021, 02:06:14 AM
Who did Robert Morris merge with? Was it Judson University? Maybe that is why football is on the campus this year?

Nope. RMU was merged into Roosevelt. I believe it was done in March, 2020.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Next Man Up on September 12, 2021, 02:25:44 AM
Bad loss by Benedictine today. Picked as #3 in the NACC, they lost to CCIW #8 Carroll. In the process, they both blew an early 14 point, first quarter lead, and were subsequently outscored 14-0 in the fourth quarter.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 12, 2021, 10:35:39 AM
Quote from: Next Man Up on September 12, 2021, 02:17:01 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 12, 2021, 02:06:14 AM
Who did Robert Morris merge with? Was it Judson University? Maybe that is why football is on the campus this year?

Nope. RMU was merged into Roosevelt. I believe it was done in March, 2020.

Roosevelt, which didn't have football prior to the merger, has maintained RMU's old program. The Lakers likewise play at RMU's old stadium, Morris Field, out in Arlington Heights.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Next Man Up on September 12, 2021, 01:50:19 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 12, 2021, 10:35:39 AM
Quote from: Next Man Up on September 12, 2021, 02:17:01 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 12, 2021, 02:06:14 AM
Who did Robert Morris merge with? Was it Judson University? Maybe that is why football is on the campus this year?

Nope. RMU was merged into Roosevelt. I believe it was done in March, 2020.

Roosevelt, which didn't have football prior to the merger, has maintained RMU's old program. The Lakers likewise play at RMU's old stadium, Morris Field, out in Arlington Heights.

Morris Field which was initially the football field of Forest View High School which operated from 1963 until it was closed in 1986 due to declining enrollment.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on September 17, 2021, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 08, 2021, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 08, 2021, 11:38:01 AM
AU is clearly a top 25 team. I'd even say they are clearly a top 10-15 team.

The positive from Saturday is that in 2019 the program didn't know if they could hang with a St. John's until the season was over. Now, this team knows they can hang with the biggest programs in the country and belong there.

Excited to see how they fare vs NCC.

NCC and St. Johns are good matchups for AU. If they were to play a top team that's a run first offense, I think that would give them some issues.


Very good points. Now the question is can they move up from hanging with the big programs and start to take down the big programs.

And you're right about the matchups. I think AU, for all the skill position strides they've made, still doesn't have the size necessarily to take on a Wisconsin Whitewater, who will just pound the ball between the tackles for 60 minutes straight. I'm expecting a close game this Saturday, hopefully they can pull it off.

I'm curious to see how Aurora bounces back after last week's game. I was hoping for a better game than the final outcome vs NCC.  AU does have some talent for sure but got down early and had to become one dimensional to try and get back in the game.  I was surprised Moore wasn't a part of the offense.  I don't see that they are a top 10-15 team right now but with a bounce back against CUC, they could get back into top 25 consideration soon.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 01:50:58 PM
Eureka/Rockford and Benedictine/CUW up shortly:

(figuring Rhythm 21 and one of the St, Norbert followers may post on the other 2 NACC games)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 02:15:06 PM
Concordia-WI 7, Benedictine 0  8 1/2 min left in 1st Qrtr.

Eureka 7, Rockford 0, (Red Devils took advantage of a short field after blocking a Rockford punt, approx 8 1/2 min left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 02:33:04 PM
Updates:  CUW and Benedictine are tied at 7 after 1 Quarter:

               Eureka 14, Rockford 0, (Red Devils blocked another punt, scored after another short drive.) Less than 7 minutes left in the 1st Quarter.

               Now it's Eureka 14, Rockford 6 (Ray to Owens, 51 yd TD) less than 4 min left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 03:27:08 PM
UPDATES:  Benedictine 14, CUW 13, Half

                 Eureka 28, Rockford 12 approx. 8 1/2 min left in 1st Half.

                 Eureka 28, Rockford 20 Half (Ray to E. Johnson for a TD and 2-pt conversion(.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 04:09:21 PM
UPDATES;  Concordia-WI 20, Benedictine 14, End of 3rd, Eagles deep in Falcon territory at the moment.       

                 Benedictine has just scored another TD to take a 21-20 lead, just underway in the 4th.

                 Rockford has narrowed the gap on Eureka, Red Devils up  28-26 with just under 10 min left. in 3rd Quarter.
                       (Ray to Williams for a 91 yd TD, run conversion attempt failed.)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 04:31:50 PM
Eureka 38, Rockford 26  Less than 6 min left in 3rd. 
            (Gerard to Bradford for a TD, then the Red Devils forced a Rockford fumble, got the ball back and kicked a FG)

Rockford has scored again, (Ray to Brown for a TD)  38-33 Eureka less than 2 1/2 min left in 3rd.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 05:05:32 PM
Final:  Benedictine 31, Concordia-WI 20  (Down 21-20, the Falcons had a field goal attempt partially blocked, Benedictine took the ball on a 4 1/2 minute drive for a FG, on the next Falcon possession, Linn throws an INT for a Pick-6 to account for the difference.

IL Eagle ball control was the  key here (several drives of 7 minutes).

Eureka 51, Rockford 39 just over 10 minutes left in 4th.
                              (Gerard to  Bradford for another Red Devil TD, Ray to Cannon for another Regent score, then
                                     Red Devils just got another TD on a Gerard run)

As expected, both Lakeland and Aurora won big. (per CUW announcer).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 05:17:34 PM
Eureka/Rockford not over yet, Regents down 51-45 6 1/2 minutes left (Ray to Owens for yet another TD passing). Now the question is, can the Regents hold the Red Devil offense in check?

Yes, it did, L Johnson ran it in from 2 yards out, the score is tied at 51 with 35 seconds left! (extra point attempt  was blocked).

Hang on to your hats, folks, Rockford/Eureka is going to OT!
Title: Re: FB: NACC Rockford-Eureka OT updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 05:47:10 PM
OT 1:  Eureka gets ball 1st. scores on a Hill TD run,

              58-51 Red Devils.

         Rockford response:  Another Ray to Owens TD, now, do the Regents extend this, or go for 2?

             Developing. . . .
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2021, 05:52:49 PM
Rockford went for 2, Ray's pass attempt failed

Eureka wins this track meet 58-57!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2021, 06:47:43 PM
Heard Aurora is still receiving votes in the latest D3 Top 25 Poll.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on September 22, 2021, 10:29:14 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2021, 06:47:43 PM
Heard Aurora is still receiving votes in the latest D3 Top 25 Poll.

Truth. 17 points, in fact, so a handful of coaches are in on the Spartans and not just some rogue. Their NC outcomes send mixed signals for sure.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on September 23, 2021, 12:45:26 PM
Quote from: WW on September 22, 2021, 10:29:14 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 20, 2021, 06:47:43 PM
Heard Aurora is still receiving votes in the latest D3 Top 25 Poll.

Truth. 17 points, in fact, so a handful of coaches are in on the Spartans and not just some rogue. Their NC outcomes send mixed signals for sure.
,

AU is kind of in no mans land until the playoffs... Hope they get another shot and are able to prove themselves on the national stage.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 25, 2021, 01:57:16 PM
An/other Saturday afternoon of NACC gridiron action:

CUW/CUC, Rockford/Aurora and Eureka/Benedictine all up shortly:
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 25, 2021, 02:14:44 PM
IL Eagles scored on their opening possession and lead Eureka 7-0 Just under 11 min left in 1st Qrtr.

Aurora 7, Rockford 0  8 1/2 min left in 1st Qrtr.

CUC/CUW scoreless yet.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 25, 2021, 02:31:37 PM
CUW leads CUC 7-0 after 1 Qrtr

Eureka 13, Benedictine 7 very late in 1st Qrtr.

Rockford and Aurora tied at 7 approx. 2 min left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on September 25, 2021, 02:47:46 PM
A couple of pick-sixes open things up in both games.
- Aurora picks one off in the end zone and runs it back 100 yards to make it 21-7.
- CUW takes a pick-six on the first play after a CUW touchdown to extend their lead to 21-0.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 25, 2021, 02:54:21 PM
Benedictine up 14-13 on Eureka  8 1/2 min left in 1st half.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 25, 2021, 03:18:01 PM
CUW 21, CUC 13 Half

Eureka 16, Benedictine 14  Half

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 25, 2021, 04:15:34 PM
Benedictine 36, Eureka 16 less than 2 min left in 3rd

Aurora 42, Rockford 13  less than 7 min left in 3rd

CUW 28, CUC 13 less than 6 min left in 4th
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 25, 2021, 04:31:00 PM
1st NACC afternoon final:  CUC 28, CUW 19

2nd Final:  Benedictine 49, Eureka 29

3rd Game:  Aurora up 63-20 on Rockford Approx 11 minutes left.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on September 26, 2021, 09:39:14 AM
Can't say I saw a Lakeland blowout of St. Norbert coming. Muskies look legit. Guessing Coach will want to clean up the penalties, though. 22 for 184 yards last night -- yowza.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on September 28, 2021, 12:01:06 AM
What happened to Rhythm21?  He hasn't been seen since the NCC game? I actually enjoyed his insight on AU.  Always great to get plenty of representation from all schools if you can. 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 02:12:16 PM
Following Rockford/CUW and Benedictine/St. Norbert at the moment:
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 02:15:09 PM
CUW on the board first (Linn to Booker for a TD)  Falcons up 6-0  less than 10 1/2 min left in 1st Qrtr.

Ben/SNC scoreless yet.

IL Eagles just scored on a Jarnigan TD Pass, they're up on St Norbert with less than 6 min left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 02:21:59 PM
Rockford 7, CUW 6 (Ray TD run) less than 7 min left in 1st Qrtr

CUW just got an 84 yd kickoff return for a TD Falcons up 13-7.
               (Potential Eureka/Rockford II?)
                         Developing. . .

IL Eagles got another rushing TD on St. Norbert, Eagles now up 14-0, very late in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 02:41:16 PM
WLC is up 10-7 on Aurora early in the 2nd Qrtr. (We'll see how long that holds up-it'd be a real shocker if it did--)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 02:52:08 PM
CUW 20, Rockford 6  just under 9 minutes left in 1st half (Linn to Booker for another TD).

St. Norbert got on the board, (fumble recovery, short drive for TD) 14-7 IL Eagles less than 8 minutes left in 1st half.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 03:02:51 PM
CUW's threatening to break that game open, they're up 27-7 Less than 4 1/2 min left in 1st half.

St. Norbert and Benedictine are tied at 14. Green Knights recovered another fumble, got a TD off that turnover  Less than 7 min left in 1st half.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 03:25:04 PM
Halftime scores:  CUW 27, Rockford 7
                          Benedictine 21, St. Norbert 14.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 03:56:34 PM
CUW 34, Rockford 7 (Linn to Houlihan for another Falcon TD) Less than 5 minutes left in 3rd Qrtr.

Benedictine 21, St. Norbert 20 (3rd time, turnover, Green Knight short drive for  TD, point attempt was blocked).
                                                      Less than 5 1/2 minutes left in the 3rd Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 04:17:38 PM
Benedictine 27, St. Norbert 20 (IL Eagles anther rushing TD, 2 pt conversion attempt failed) Very late in the 3rd Qrtr.

CUW 41, Rockford 7 (another rushing  TD)  Less than 9 min left in the game.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 04:46:30 PM
Final:  CUW 41, Rockford 7

Benedictine 34, St. Norbert 27 Less than 5 1/2 min left.

Aurora is up by 34 on WLC with less than 3 minutes left.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 04:53:26 PM
Benedictine 41, St. Norbert 27 (another Eagle rushing TD) Less than 2 1/2 minutes left..

41-34 IL Eagles, less than 1/12 minutes left--
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 05:04:42 PM
Final:  Benedictine 41, St. Norbert 34 (Late on-side kick failed).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on October 03, 2021, 11:54:46 AM
Aurora 70 WLC 29 (Warriors get rocked on Hall of Fame day by the Spartans)

Interesting note Former WLC Running Back Michael Reeves was inducted into the WLC Athletics Hall of Fame last night.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on October 04, 2021, 06:58:28 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 02, 2021, 05:04:42 PM
Final:  Benedictine 41, St. Norbert 34 (Late on-side kick failed).

Saw some of this one. The Benedictine QB, Tyler Jarnagin, can flat-out ball. Gonna be a track meet when they host Lakeland Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 10:06:34 AM
10/9 NACC Games:

WLC/St. Norbert:  Green Knights had 2 long drives come up empty last week. On paper, this figures to be a closer game for the  Warriors than their previous 2 opponents. Trouble is, whenever one thinks they're going to have some success, they get a bad case of the "Ill-Timed Turnover Blues." (Muddy Waters or John Lee Hooker music cue-up optional)

Lakeland/Benedictine:  Muskies strong play continues.   

CUW/Eureka:  CUW's beginning to be on a roll. Methinks that will continue,

CUC/Rockford:  Regents are due for a win here. They have a good chance to get it if their offense clicks like it has previously.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 02:02:15 PM
CUC/Rockford, Eureka/CUW and Lakeland/Benedictine all about  to get underway.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/9 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 02:16:29 PM
Rockford 7, CUC 0 (Ray to Owens for a TD) 11 1/2 min left in 1st Qrtr

CUW 7, Eureka 0 (Linn gets in from 1 yard out) 11 1/2 min left in 1st Qrtr.

Lakeland 12, Benedictine 2 (Nunnery 1 rush TD, 1 pass TD. IL Eagles returned blocked PAT for 2 pts. 12 min left in 1st Qrtr

St. Norbert 42, WLC 0  2nd Qrtr. Warriors have their 3rd string QB in there.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10-9 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 02:30:35 PM
CUW 14, Eureka 0 (Linn to Houlihan for a TD) 3 min left in 1st Qrtr.

Lakeland 14, Benedictine 9 (Jarnigan to Senerchia for a TD) Less than 3 min left in 1st !454.

CUC has just tied Rockford at 7, (Daniels 10 yd run) early in 2nd
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/9 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 02:45:54 PM
CUW 14, Eureka 7 (Hill TD run)  11 1/2 min left in half

Lakeland 19, Benedictine 9 (Nunnery another TD pass) Start of 2nd Qrtr.

Rockford 14, CUC 7 (L. Johnson 2 yd TD run) 9 min left in half

Update:  CUW 14, Eureka 13 (Falcon turnover gave Red Devils short field, extra point was missed 9 min left in 1st half.

2nd update:  Lakeland 19, Benedictine 12 (less than 14 min left in 1st half)

3rd update:  Lakeland 26, Benedictine 12 (Nunnery another TD pass-quick response)

4th update:  Rockford 14, CUC 10 (less than 6 min left in half)

5th update:  CUW 21, Eureka 13 (less than 6 min left in half)
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/9 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 03:02:53 PM
Lakeland 26, Benedictine 19 (Jarnigan to Hollliday for a TD) less than 10 min left in 1st half

CUW 21, Eureka 20 (Red Devils blocked a punt, returned it for a TD) Half.

Rockford 21, CUC 10 (Ray to Owens again for TD) Half.

Update:  Lakeland and Benedictine are tied at 26 (Jarnigan to Shelton TD) Half
                     (After the Eagle TD, Muskies got it to the Eagle 2 yard line, but instead of kicking the FG
                          they went for the TD and didn't get it.)



Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/9 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 03:41:43 PM
CUW 28, Eureka 20 (INT gave Falcons short field, this time they punched the ball in for the TD) 13 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

St. Norbert 62, WLC 0 Start of 4th Quarter.

Update:  CUW 31, Eureka 20 (FG after 2nd Falcon INT gave them a short field to work with.)

Rockford/CUC update:  Rockford 21, CUC 13 (Cougar FG) less than 9 min left in 3rd Qrtr.)

Benedictine 33, Lakeland 26 (Jarnigan TD run) Less than 13 min left in 3rd Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/9 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 04:08:39 PM
Benedictine 40, Lakeland 26 (IL Eagle player got a pick-6) 12 min left in 3rd  Qrtr

CUW 31, Eureka 26 (Butler Red Devil rushing TD)

Update:  Benedictine 47, Lakeland 26 (Jarnigan to Ayash, 40 yd TD after a 4th down Muskie gamble failed) less than 11 min left in 3rd Quarter

Rockford 28, CUC 13 (Ray to Owens TD --3rd time in game)  Start of 4th Qrtr.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 04:23:01 PM
Benedictine 47, Lakeland 33 (Rivers TD run) another quick response 8 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

Update:  Benedictine 54, Lakeland 33 (Jarnagin to Ayash 2nd time TD) less than 3 min left in 3rd.

CUW 34, Eureka 26 (Falcon FG) Less than 10 1/2 min left.

Final; St. Norbert 68, WLC 0 (Knew the Green Knights were frustrated, but wasn't expecting a blow-out of that magnitude).

Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/9 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 04:39:38 PM
Rockford 35, CUC 13 (E Johnson rushing TD) less than 8 min left

Benedictine 54, Lakeland 40 (Nunnery to Rivers TD pass) Start of 4th Quarter.

CUW 34, Eureka 32 (TD, 2-pt conversion fail)  Less than 5 minutes left.

Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/9 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 04:54:01 PM
CUW just got a pick-6  Falcons now up 41-32 less than 2 min left

2nd NACC Final:  Rockford 35, CUC 13.

Update:  3rd NACC Final:  CUW 41, Eureka 32

Lakeland/Benedictine only NACC game still in progress yet.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10-9 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 05:09:24 PM
Lakeland is down 14 pts with less than 2 min 50 seconds left--

Muskies give ball over on downs, IL Eagles have it with just less than 2 minutes left--

i'ts gone final:  Benedictine 54, Lakeland 40!

An IL Eagle time-consuming 4th Quarter drive and a D that made the stops when it had to was the key here.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10-9 in-game updates
Post by: WW on October 10, 2021, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 05:09:24 PM
Lakeland is down 14 pts with less than 2 min 50 seconds left--

Muskies give ball over on downs, IL Eagles have it with just less than 2 minutes left--

i'ts gone final:  Benedictine 54, Lakeland 40!

An IL Eagle time-consuming 4th Quarter drive and a D that made the stops when it had to was the key here.

BenU vs Aurora, October 30. Bring your calculator...
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 13, 2021, 09:49:09 PM
Guesses for 10/16 games:

WLC at Rockford:  Rockford
Lakeland at CUC:  Lakeland should take this one
Eureka at Aurora:  Aurora
St. Norbert at CUW:  CUW in a tight one. 1) they're at home and 2) their diversified offense has been very consistent of late.

Benedictine gets to rest up a bit before preparing for Rockford 10/23.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on October 14, 2021, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 13, 2021, 09:49:09 PM
Guesses for 10/16 games:

WLC at Rockford:  Rockford
Lakeland at CUC:  Lakeland should take this one
Eureka at Aurora:  Aurora
St. Norbert at CUW:  CUW in a tight one. 1) they're at home and 2) their diversified offense has been very consistent of late.

Benedictine gets to rest up a bit before preparing for Rockford 10/23.

My take on SNC is that they're a good team that has played some really lousy stretches of football. In other words, they're better than they've showed. I think they'll control CUW, and give Aurora a run the following week.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10-9 in-game updates
Post by: Rhythm21 on October 14, 2021, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: WW on October 10, 2021, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 09, 2021, 05:09:24 PM
Lakeland is down 14 pts with less than 2 min 50 seconds left--

Muskies give ball over on downs, IL Eagles have it with just less than 2 minutes left--

i'ts gone final:  Benedictine 54, Lakeland 40!

An IL Eagle time-consuming 4th Quarter drive and a D that made the stops when it had to was the key here.

BenU vs Aurora, October 30. Bring your calculator...

AU vs BU is gonna be a wild one!
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 02:05:29 PM
Eureka/Aurora start time was pushed back to this evening.

CUC/Lakeland 2:15 start.

Keeping tabs on the other 2 games.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 02:25:21 PM
WLC 7, Rockford 0 Approx 2 min left in 1st Qrtr (20 yd TD run)

St. Norbert 7, CUW 0 (Kohl to Lox TD pass) less than a minute left in 1st Qrtr.



Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 02:34:12 PM
WLC 7, Rockford 6 (L Johnson rushing TD, kick blocked)  Less than 14 min left in 1st half.

St. Norbert 7, CUW 3 (less than 12 min left in 1st half.)
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 02:39:35 PM
WLC 14, Rockford 6  (47 yd rushing TD) 12 1/2 min left in 1st half.

St. Norbert 14, CUW 3 (Kohl to Lawrence TD pass)  less than 6 1/2 min left in 1st half
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 02:48:32 PM
Rockford and WLC are tied at 14  (L Johnson another rushing TD, 2 pt conversion) Less than 9 1/2 min left in 2nd Qrtr.

St. Norbert 14, CUW 3  Half
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 03:02:30 PM
WLC 21, Rockford 14 (another Warrior rushing TD) less than 2 1/2 min left in 1st half.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 03:14:01 PM
WLC and Rockford are tied at 21 (Ray TD pass) Half

Lakeland/CUC on deck.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 03:22:52 PM
Lakeland 7, CUC 0 (Nunnery rushing TD) 12 min left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 03:43:16 PM
St. Norbert 14, CUW 10  Less than 4 1/2 min left in 3rd Qrtr. (Summers III TD run)

WLC 28, Rockford 21 (3rd rushing TD on the day for the Warriors) Still very early in the 3rd.

Lakeland 14, CUC 0 (Nunnery to Rivers for the TD) very early in the 3rd
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 03:54:01 PM
WLC 35, Rockford 21 (Yockey to DuPree for a TD) Less than 8 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

Lakeland 21, CUC 0 (Rivers rushing TD)
Make that 28-0 Muskies just got a pick-6 Less than 10 min left in 1st half

CUW has now gone ahead of St. Norbert 17-10 (rushing TD) Approx. 10 1/2 min left.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 04:04:00 PM
WLC 35, Rockford 27 (L Johnson another rushing TD) under 4 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

Lakeland 35, CUC 0 (Nunnery another passing TD)  Less than 9 min left in 1st half.

CUW 24, St. Norbert 14 (Linn rushing TD)  Less than 4 minutes left.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 04:20:08 PM
WLC 42, Rockford 27 Less than 13 min left in game (Another Warrior rushing TD)

Final:  CUW 24, St. Norbert 14.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 04:30:38 PM
Lakeland 42, CUC 0 (Pick-6 late in 1st half).

WLC 49, Rockford 27 (rushing TD)  Less than 8 1/2 min left.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/16 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 04:48:46 PM
WLC 49, Rockford 34 (L Johnson another rushing TD) Just under 3 minutes left.

(Yogi "it ain't over 'til it's over" Berra would be loving this)

WLC 49, Rockford 41 (Regents recovered an on-side kick, Ray to L Johnson for a 40 yd TD) Under 2 1/2 min left.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 16, 2021, 05:05:54 PM
Final:  WLC 49, Rockford 41 (Whew!) (Warriors got the ball back after the Regents' last TD and ran out the clock to get off the schneid).

Lakeland 49, CUC 0. (Rivers another rushing TD) 10 min left in the 3rd, this one's a rout.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 20, 2021, 09:24:21 AM
10/23 guesses:

Benedictine/Rockford:  Benedictine in a tight one. IL Eagles can chew up the clock when they need to. Rockford can take this if Ray & Co are connecting on long passes early (and the Regents cut down on their penalties).

St. Norbert/Aurora:  Aurora.

Lakeland/CUW:  Lakeland (Falcons can take this if they create turnovers at the right times like last week vs. St. Norbert)

Eureka/WLC:  Been waffling on this one. Both squads know the feeling of being ambushed quickly (Eureka was more non-conference)-- WLC in a tight one. Eureka can take this if the  Red Devils slow down the Warrior rush, and create opportunities on special teams like they did against Rockford.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on October 20, 2021, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 20, 2021, 09:24:21 AM
10/23 guesses:

Benedictine/Rockford:  Benedictine in a tight one. IL Eagles can chew up the clock when they need to. Rockford can take this if Ray & Co are connecting on long passes early (and the Regents cut down on their penalties).

St. Norbert/Aurora:  Aurora.

Lakeland/CUW:  Lakeland (Falcons can take this if they create turnovers at the right times like last week vs. St. Norbert)

Eureka/WLC:  Been waffling on this one. Both squads know the feeling of being ambushed quickly (Eureka was more non-conference)-- WLC in a tight one. Eureka can take this if the  Red Devils slow down the Warrior rush, and create opportunities on special teams like they did against Rockford.

Intrigued for the Aurora at Saint Norbert game Saturday. HC for SNC and Beebe being a former Packer, first trip to Green Bay as AU head coach. Also a backward game time of 3pm
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on October 20, 2021, 05:50:26 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on October 20, 2021, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 20, 2021, 09:24:21 AM
10/23 guesses:

Benedictine/Rockford:  Benedictine in a tight one. IL Eagles can chew up the clock when they need to. Rockford can take this if Ray & Co are connecting on long passes early (and the Regents cut down on their penalties).

St. Norbert/Aurora:  Aurora.

Lakeland/CUW:  Lakeland (Falcons can take this if they create turnovers at the right times like last week vs. St. Norbert)

Eureka/WLC:  Been waffling on this one. Both squads know the feeling of being ambushed quickly (Eureka was more non-conference)-- WLC in a tight one. Eureka can take this if the  Red Devils slow down the Warrior rush, and create opportunities on special teams like they did against Rockford.

Intrigued for the Aurora at Saint Norbert game Saturday. HC for SNC and Beebe being a former Packer, first trip to Green Bay as AU head coach. Also a backward game time of 3pm

Aurora is built for speed, just like their coach. I don't think the Norbertines will be able to keep up with them. Tough year at SNC, and I'm kind of surprised. I thought they'd contend, but they lose this one and they'll have to win out to avoid their first sub-.500 season since... I don't know when. Just seems like they're always contenders, in this millennium anyway.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/23 afternoon in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 23, 2021, 02:25:44 PM
Benedictine 7, Rockford 7  less than 7 minutes left in 1st Qrtr

IL Eagles got a rushing TD, then Rockford answered with a Ray to Carter-Grady TD pass.
Title: Re: NACC 10/23 afternoon in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 23, 2021, 02:43:35 PM
Rockford 14, Benedictine 7 (L Johnson rushing TD) Less than 11 min left in 1st half.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/23 afternoon in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 23, 2021, 03:08:04 PM
Benedictine 14, Rockford 14 (Hoard 2nd rushing TD) Less than 2 min left in 1st half.

Still tied at halftime.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/23 afternoon in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 23, 2021, 03:44:27 PM
Benedictine 21, Rockford 14  (immediate INT, then Jarnigan to Morris TD Pass, less than a minute gone by in the 3rd Qrtr.

Update:  Tied again at 21 (Ray to Carter-Grady TD pass) Approx. 10 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

Aurora/St. Norbert on deck.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/23 afternoon in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 23, 2021, 04:10:23 PM
Rockford 28, Benedictine 21 (Ray to Owens 57 yd TD) Midway thru 3rd. It'll be a bit of a shocker if this lead holds up, but this may turn into even more of a track meet.

Aurora/St. Norbert scoreless 5 minutes in.

UPDATE:  Aurora 7, St. Norbert 0. 4th down gamble pays off, then a Zimbelman to Harner TD pass puts the Spartans on the board  5 min left in 1st Qrtr.

UPDATE:  Benedictine and Rockford are tied at 28. Jarnigan pass to Senerchia  2 min left in 3rd Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/23 afternoon in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 23, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
Aurora 13, St. Norbert 0, (blocked punt, short drive, Bailey TD run) under 3 min left in 1st Qrtr

Rockford 34, Benedictine 28 (Another Ray to Owens combo, this one for 66 yds. conversion failed.) Less than a minute left in the 3rd Qrtr.

UPDATE:  Benedictine and Rockford tied at 34 (Hoard's 3rd rushing TD of the day, conversion failed) Approximately 12 minutes left.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/23 afternoon in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 23, 2021, 04:51:24 PM
Aurora 19, St. Norbert 0 (Zimbelman to Jewell TD pass) 6 min left in half

Benedictine 41, Rockford 34 (Jarnigan to Holliday TD pass) Less than 7 min left in game.

UPDATE:  Aurora 25, St. Norbert 0 (INT, then Chretin TD run) 5 1/2 min left in half.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/23 afternoon in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 23, 2021, 05:06:23 PM
Final:  Benedictine 41, Rockford 34 (Regents had the ball at the IL Eagles 15 but 4 straight incomplete passes stalled the drive.)
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/23 afternoon in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 23, 2021, 05:11:42 PM
Aurora 25, St. Norbert 0 Half.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 24, 2021, 09:27:09 AM
10/23 NACC Evening game finals:

Lakeland 49, Concordia-WI 32 (Lakeland trailed 20-7 at one point, but made a strong comeback, per box score)

WLC 68, Eureka 41 (Yockey 4 TD passes, Warriors also got 4 rushing TD's, a 95-yd KO return for a TD, and a Pick-6 per box score)

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 26, 2021, 10:21:11 AM
10/30 guesses:

Eureka/Lakeland:  Lakeland
St. Norbert/Rockford:  Potential tight one, but only if St. Norbert can slow down Regent passing attack enough and is able to run well on Rockford like WLC did. Going with Rockford, (they're at home.) 
CUC/WLC:  WLC
Benedictine/Aurora:  Aurora in Potential tight one #2. (Spartans are at home.)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WW on October 26, 2021, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 26, 2021, 10:21:11 AM
10/30 guesses:

Eureka/Lakeland:  Lakeland
St. Norbert/Rockford:  Potential tight one, but only if St. Norbert can slow down Regent passing attack enough and is able to run well on Rockford like WLC did. Going with Rockford, (they're at home.) 
CUC/WLC:  WLC
Benedictine/Aurora:  Aurora in Potential tight one #2. (Spartans are at home.)

Aurora benefited from some very short fields in the St. Norbert game last week. Otherwise, they were held in check by SNC, more so than SNC was able to hold BenU in check. So I don't know who I got in Aurora-BenU, but I might lean a bit BenU. And I still think Lakeland could throw a wrench into this thing when they host Aurora a week later. Who gets the playoff bid if they all finish 7-1, and 1-1 in H2H against each other?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on October 26, 2021, 02:48:11 PM
AU 47
Ben 31

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 26, 2021, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: WW on October 26, 2021, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 26, 2021, 10:21:11 AM
10/30 guesses:

Eureka/Lakeland:  Lakeland
St. Norbert/Rockford:  Potential tight one, but only if St. Norbert can slow down Regent passing attack enough and is able to run well on Rockford like WLC did. Going with Rockford, (they're at home.) 
CUC/WLC:  WLC
Benedictine/Aurora:  Aurora in Potential tight one #2. (Spartans are at home.)


Aurora benefited from some very short fields in the St. Norbert game last week. Otherwise, they were held in check by SNC, more so than SNC was able to hold BenU in check. So I don't know who I got in Aurora-BenU, but I might lean a bit BenU. And I still think Lakeland could throw a wrench into this thing when they host Aurora a week later. Who gets the playoff bid if they all finish 7-1, and 1-1 in H2H against each other?

Perhaps it'd come down to point differential between the 3 squads when they played each other, like it did last spring in the NACC North with Rockford, Concordia-WI and WLC. All 3 results against Lakeland last spring weren't factored in then, so WLC got the 2nd NACC North spot last spring, but then COVID wiped out the playoff games.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/30 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2021, 02:19:32 PM
Aurora 6, Benedictine 0 Approx 12 min left in 1st Qrtr. Zimbelman short TD pass/

Lakeland 7, Aurora 0, Same as above, 1st Qrtr.
UPDATE:  Lakeland 14, Aurora 0 7 min left 1st Qrtr.

CUC 7, WLC 0 1st Qrtr  10 min left (Cougars' Daniels 3 yd TD run)
UPDATE:  WLC got on the board with a FG  7-3  5 1/2 min left in 1st Qrtr

St. Norbert 7, Rockford 0, Kohl rushing TD  1st Qrtr 10 min left
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/30 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2021, 02:25:20 PM
CUC 14, WLC 3 (Daniels 2nd rushing TD already-after a long kick-off return ) Less than 5 min left in 1st Qrtr.

St. Norbert 14, Rockford 0 (Kohl to Lawrence TD pass) 4 min left 1st Qrtr

Aurora 14, Benedictine 0 (Zimbelman to Moore TD pass, 2 pt run) 3 min left 1st Qrtr.

Lakeland 14, Eureka 7 Under a minute to go in the 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2021, 02:45:52 PM
Aurora 14, Benedictine 7 (Holliday rushing TD) Start of 2nd Qrtr

St. Norbert 14, Rockford 7 (Ray to Owens TD pass) Just underway in 2nd Qrtr.

CUC 21, WLC 3 (Pratley 9 yd TD run (less than 11 min left in 1st half)
      UPDATE:  CUC 21, WLC 10 (Parbs 49 yd TD run)  Less than 9 min left in 1st half

Lakeland 14, Eureka 9 (Red Devil safety)
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/30 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2021, 02:51:42 PM
St. Norbert 21, Rockford 7 (Kohl to Meisenhemer TD pass) Still early in 2nd Qrtr.

CUC 28, WLC 10 (Daniels 54 yd TD run)  6 1/2 min left in 1st half.

Aurora 20, Benedictine 7 (Zimbelman TD run) 10 1/2 min left in 1st half.

Lakeland 21, Eureka 9  11 min left in 1st half

UPDATE:  St. Norbert 28, Rockford 7 (Green Knights recovered a fumble, Lox scored on a 2 yd run) Midway thru 2nd Qrtr.

UPDATE:  Aurora 26, Benedictine 7 (Zimbelman to Moore 46 yd TD)  6 1/2 min left in 1st half.

UPDATE:  CUC 28, WLC 17 (Yockey to Schneider for a short TD pass) Less than 1 min to go in 1st half)

UPDATE:  Lakeland 28, Eureka 16 7 min left in 1st half.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/30 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2021, 03:08:25 PM
Aurora 34, Benedictine 7 (Spartans picked off a Jarnigan pass, then Zimbelman to Madsen 14 yd TD)
               Less than 5 min left in 1st half.

CUC 31, WLC 17, (Cougars got a FG on the last play of the half).

St. Norbert 35, Rockford 7 (Kohl to Leschewski TD pass) Under a minute left in 1st half)

UPDATE:  Aurora 34, Benedictine 14 (Hoard 1 yd TD run) Less than 2 minutes left in 1st half).

UPDATE:  St. Norbert 35, Rockford 7  Half

UPDATE:  Lakeland 31, Eureka 16 Half

UPDATE:  Aurora 42, Benedictine 14 (Zimbelman to Madsen, this time for 33 yds)
                   Half
Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/30 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2021, 03:34:03 PM
CUC 31, WLC 24 (Parbs 55 yd TD run) Still very early in 3rd Qrtr.

St. Norbert 42, Rockford 7 (Kohl to Lox 31 yd TD pass) Less than 1 minute into the 3rd Qrtr.

UPDATE:  CUC 34, WLC 24  7 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

Aurora 42, Benedictine 21 (Jarnigan to Gurau TD pass) Very early in 3rd Qrtr.

UPDATE:  CUC 34, WLC 31 (Yockey to Green 31 yd TD pass) Less than 5 1/2 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

UPDATE:  Aurora 49, Benedictine 21 (Zimbelman to Jewell, short TD pass) Less than 3 min into 3rd Qrtr.

Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/30 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2021, 04:00:32 PM
St. Norbert 49, Rockford 7 (Kohl rushing TD) Less than 6 1/2 minutes left in the 3rd Qrtr. (Per Green Knight stats, Regents put their 2nd string QB in on the ensuing possession).

Lakeland 38, Eureka 16 Less than 7 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

Aurora 49, Benedictine 28 (Jarnigan to Senerchia short TD pass) Under 7 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

UPDATE:  Lakeland 45, Eureka 16 Less than 3 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

UPDATE:  St. Norbert 56, Rockford 7 (McCartney 5 yd TD run) 11 min. left

CUC 41, WLC 31 (Pratley 10 yd TD run)  Less than 3 min left in game. (WLC had a long drive in the 3rd and early in the 4th, but a 4th down pass failed).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2021, 04:34:41 PM
St. Norbert 63, Rockford 7 (Regent punt blocked and recovered in end zone) Less than 10 1/2 min left.

CUC 41, WLC 38 (Davis 31 yd pass to Hopkins) Less than 1 1/2 min left in game.

Aurora 49, Benedictine 35 (Hoard 1 yd TD) 13 1/2 min  left in game.

Title: Re: FB: NACC 10/30 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 30, 2021, 04:45:32 PM
Final:  CUC 41, WLC 38  (On-side kick failed, Cougars ran out the clock to get off the schneid).

St. Norbert is up huge on Rockford late in the 4th Qrtr.

Aurora 56, Benedictine 35 (Zimbelman to Madsen combo for the 3rd time today) Less than 8 min left.
        Make that 63-35 (Chretin 31 yd TD run) Less than 6 min left in game.
               (Can't see the Spartans blowing a 28-point lead now.)

Lakeland 45, Eureka 16 Final

With those results, Aurora is alone in 1st place with Lakeland right behind them. Benedictine would have to win out and hope for 2 Spartan losses.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 03, 2021, 10:08:53 AM
11/6 Guesses:

WLC/CUW;  CUW
Benedictine/CUC:  Benedictine
Eureka/St. Norbert:  St. Norbert
Lakeland/Aurora:  Aurora (in THE NACC game of the week)
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/6 In-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2021, 02:02:39 PM
Aurora/Lakeland up shortly:

(A Spartan win and a Benedictine loss clinches the NACC Title for Aurora.)
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/6 In-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2021, 02:15:00 PM
WLC 3, Concordia-WI 0  Less than 11 min left in 1st Qrtr

Lakeland 6, Aurora 0, (Nunnery to Kensey TD pass) More than 2 min. into game.

CUC 7, Benedictine 0, (Pratley to Daniels for 74 yd TD) less than 4 min in.

St. Norbert/Eureka scoreless yet.

UPDATE:  CUW 7, WLC 3, (Purkee to Houlihan TD pass) Less than 6 min left in 1st Qrtr.
               CUC and Benedictine are now tied at 7 (Jarnigan to Morris short TD pass)  Less than 9 min left in
                          1st Qrtr. 
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/6 In-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2021, 02:27:20 PM
Lakeland 13, Aurora 0 (Nunnery TD run) Less than 6 min left in 1st Qrtr.

WLC 10, CUW 7 (Yockey to White TD pass) Less than 2 min left in 1st Qrtr

UPDATE:  Lakeland 13, Aurora 6 (Zimbelman to Moore TD pass) Less than 3 min left in 1st Qtr.

Eureka 14, St. Norbert 7 (Red Devil's Bradford TD reception) (video stats are down)
   UPDATE:  Green Knights' Kohl scored a rushing TD, (kick blocked) 14-13 Eureka.

UPDATE:  WLC 17, CUW 7 (Yockey to Jewell TD pass) Less than 12 min left in half.

UPDATE:  Aurora 14, Lakeland 13 (Zimbelman to Chretin, short TD pass)  A minute or 2 into the 2nd Qrtr.
                       

Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/6 In-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2021, 02:52:33 PM
Benedictine 14, CUC 7 (Jarnigan to Holliday 74 yd TD pass) 11 min left in half

St. Norbert 21, Eureka 14 11 min left in 1st half
    UPDATE:  St. Norbert 28, Eureka 14  Less than 10 min left in 1st half

CUC and Benedictine are tied at 14 (Pratly 11 yd TD run)  Less than 9 min left in 1st half.

Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/6 In-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
Benedictine 21, CUC 14 (Jarnagin to Senerchia TD pass) Less than 7 min left in 1st half
           This has now gone to the halftime break.

St. Norbert 28, Eureka 21 (Red Devil rushing TD ) Under 5 min left in 1st half
        UPDATE:  St. Norbert 35, Eureka 21 (Lawrence rushing TD)
                     This one is at the half.

Aurora 20, Lakeland 13 (Bailey rushing TD)
  UPDATE: Aurora 26, Lakeland 13  (Zimbelman to Harner TD) Half

WLC 24, CUW 7 (Yockey to Green 12 yd TD)  Half.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/6 In-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2021, 03:45:09 PM
WLC 31, CUW 7 (Parbs 45 yd TD run)  Less than 12 min left in 3rd Qrtr
            UPDATE: 34-7 Warriors (a FG)  Less than 4 min left in 3rd.

St. Norbert 42, Eureka 21  About 3 min into the 3rd Qrtr.
             UPDATE:  St. Norbert 49, Eureka 21 Less than 9 min left in 3rd.

CUC and Benedictine are tied at 21 (Daniels 41 yd TD run) Less than 10 min left in 3rd Qrtr.
                UPDATE:  IL Eagles 28, CUC 21 (Jarnigan to Ayash 16 yd TD pass) Midway thru 3rd.

Aurora 26, Lakeland 13 Midway thru 3rd.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/6 In-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2021, 04:10:58 PM
WLC 34, CUW 14 (Montgomery 1 yd TD run) Under a min left in 3rd.

St. Norbert 56, Eureka 21  Under 3 min left in 3rd.
        Make that 63-21 (another TD on the last play of the 3rd)

Aurora 26, Lakeland 20 (Nunnery to Kensey TD combo for 2nd time today).
                         Less than 4 min left in 3rd.

Benedictine 35, CUC 21 (Jarnigan to Arain 8 yd TD Pass) Under 13 min left in game.







Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/6 In-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2021, 04:32:09 PM
WLC 34, CUW 21 (Purkey to Booker TD pass) Less than 7 minutes left

Benedictine 42, CUC 21 (Hoard 57 yd TD run) About 11 min left

St. Norbert 70, Eureka 21 Less than 10 min left.

Aurora 32. Lakeland 20 (Zimbelman 1 yd TD run) Less than 10 min left.

Updates:  St. Norbert/Eureka score is now final..

               WLC 41, CUW 21 (Yockey to Jewell TD pass) Under 2 min left in game
               This score is now a final. (would have been quite different if Falcon QB Linn had played).

  Benedictine 49, CUC 21 (Jarnigan to Holliday 35 yd TD pass) Less than 5 min left in this one.
                 IL Eagles have this one.

  Aurora 38, Lakeland 20 (Madsen scored the Spartan TD) Under 7 min left.
                  This score is now final. 

With those results, unless I'm missing something, Aurora has clinched the NACC title regardless of what happens next week. (Benedictine could still tie the Spartans, but Aurora beat the IL Eagles head to head).

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 08, 2021, 09:19:16 PM
11/13 Regular Season-Ending Guesses:

Lakeland at Rockford:  Lakeland

St. Norbert at CUC:  St. Norbert (CUC can take this if the Green Knights have a lot of trouble stopping the run)

Aurora/CUW:  Aurora (if Falcon QB Linn plays, this figures to be a tighter game, though I can't see the Spartans wanting to let up any).

Benedictine at WLC:  The frustrating thing about this is, had the Warriors beat CUC 2 weeks ago, they'd have been assured of an in-conference record no worse than .500. A Warrior win here allows them to reach .500, but again, I can't see Benedictine letting up, either. Going with the IL Eagles in this one.

Bye--Eureka, (thought this squad would win a couple more games than it did.)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 09, 2021, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on November 08, 2021, 09:19:16 PM
11/13 Regular Season-Ending Guesses:

Lakeland at Rockford:  Lakeland

St. Norbert at CUC:  St. Norbert (CUC can take this if the Green Knights have a lot of trouble stopping the run)

Aurora/CUW:  Aurora (if Falcon QB Linn plays, this figures to be a tighter game, though I can't see the Spartans wanting to let up any).

Benedictine at WLC:  The frustrating thing about this is, had the Warriors beat CUC 2 weeks ago, they'd have been assured of an in-conference record no worse than .500. A Warrior win here allows them to reach .500, but again, I can't see Benedictine letting up, either. Going with the IL Eagles in this one.

Bye--Eureka, (thought this squad would win a couple more games than it did.)

Congrats on AU clinching the 2021 NACC title!

And I promise you each and every Spartan will play hard from start to finish in the final matchup of the regular season because:
A.) With our only 2 losses coming to the #5 and #1 teams in the country, we have a good chance of getting a favorable draw in round 1 of the playoffs
B.) This senior class does not want to share the NACC title, even though we have already clinched the NACC playoff bid
And C.) No Spartan wants to share a NACC title with Benedictine, ever, in any sport.

It's been a great season in the NACC, with 2 teams represented in the first regional rankings and Aurora spending a couple weeks in the top 25. Hope everyone finishes up strong and gets out of week 11 healthy.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2021, 12:07:37 AM
Aurora might be able to garner a six seed and a first-round game they have a shot at winning.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on November 10, 2021, 08:22:37 AM
Possible AU first round opponents:

North Central
Whitewater
Wheaton
Central
St John's
Mount Union
Wisconsin-La Crosse
Bethel

I think they'll play Wheaton or Central. The fan in me wants to see AU @ Central. +/- 110 points scored
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/13 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 01:09:06 PM
Lakeland 7 Rockford 0 (Nunnery to Kensey TD pass) Less than 2 minutes into the game.

St. Norbert is up on CUC 7-0 (Zuleger 2 yd TD run) Less than 5 minutes into this game.

Aurora 7, CUW 0 6 minutes into this game.

Updates:
St. Norbert up 14 on the Cougars (Kohl to Decker 73 yd TD pass) Less than 7 min left in 1st Qrtr.

Lakeland 14, Rockford 0  (Rivers TD run) Midway through 1st Qrtr.

Aurora 14, CUW 0 (Zimbelman TD pass) Less than 2 1/2 min left in 1st Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/13 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 01:43:50 PM
Aurora 14, CUW 7 (Purkey to Griffin TD Pass) 9 min left in 1st half.

Aurora and CUW are tied at 14 (Purkey to Houlihan TD pass) Less than 7 min left in half.

Lakeland 21, Rockford 0 (Nunnery short TD run after Regent turnover) 11/12 min left in half

St. Norbert 20, CUC 0 (Green Knight pick-6) 4 min left in half.
            This one is now at the half.

Aurora 21, CUW 14 (Zimbelman to Madsen TD pass) 2 min left in half.

Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/13 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 02:04:40 PM
Lakeland 28, Rockford 0 (Rivers TD run)  Midway thru 2nd Qrtr.

Benedictine/WLC just underway.

Aurora and CUW are tied at 21 (Purkey to Griffin TD combo for 2nd time today) Less than a minute left in half).
           This one has gone to the Half.

Benedictine 7, WLC 0 (Hoard TD run) 4 1/2 min into the game.
         Make that 7-7 (Yockey to Schneider TD pass) 7 min into the game.

Lakeland 28, Rockford 7 (L Johnson TD run) Less than 3 min left in 1st half
   Make that 35-7 (Nunnery to Kensey TD pass) Still over a minute left before halftime.
                        This one also has just gone to the half. (Muskies had yet another chance to get in, but
                                                                                      a 4th down play failed)

WLC 14, Benedictine 7 Less than 2 min into 2nd Qrtr.
             (Yockey to Schneider TD pass)


Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/13 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 02:37:18 PM
St. Norbert 27, CUC 0  (Kohl to Lawrence TD pass) Less than 5 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

WLC 14, Benedictine 10 (Eagles get a FG after a pass INT) Less than 8 min left in half.

St. Norbert 34, CUC 0 (Kohl to Leschewski TD pass) Less than 2 min into 4th Qrtr.

CUW 28, Aurora 21 (Purkey to Houlihan TD pass) Midway through 3rd Qrtr.

WLC 21, Benedictine 10 (Yockey to Schneider for the TD pass hat trick) Less than 5 1/2 min left in half.




Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/13 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 03:17:56 PM
WLC 21, Benedictine 17 Half (Jarnigan to Weniger TD Pass)

CUW 28, Aurora 27 (Zimbelman TD Pass, conversion failed) Less than a minute into the 4th Qrtr

Lakeland 35, Rockford 14 (Ray to E Johnson TD Pass) Less than 5 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

Final: St. Norbert 34, CUC 0 (Green Knights finish at 5-5 on the season, 4-4 in the NACC)/

Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/13 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 03:26:40 PM
Aurora 33, CUW 28 (Zimbelman TD pass) Less than 9 1/2 min left in regulation in this thriller.

Lakeland 42, Rockford 14 (Nunnery rushing TD) Under 2 min left in 3rd Qrtr.

Aurora 39, CUW 28 (Zimbelman to Harner TD pass) Less than 3 1/2 min left in game.

Benedictine 24, WLC 21 (Jarnigan to Holliday TD pass ) Less than 2 min into 3rd Qrtr.

Lakeland 42, Rockford 21 (Ray to Carter-Grady TD pass) 2 min into 4th Qrtr.

Benedictine 31, WLC 21 (Jarnigan to Senerchia TD pass) 10 min left in 3rd Qrtr.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 03:47:36 PM
Aurora 39, CUW 28  Final
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 03:51:31 PM
Lakeland's up 49-21 on Rockford. 1/3 into the 4th

IL Eagles have scored 21 unanswered points on WLC
      (Hold the phone, WLC has scored again, Yockey to White TD pass 31-28 Benedictine 6 1/2 min left in the 3rd Qrtr.)

Wondering if Aurora's close margin today will affect who they get for a first round opponent next week. :-X :-\ :-X :-\
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/13 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 04:10:51 PM
Final:  Lakeland 56, Rockford 28

WLC 35, Benedictine 31  Less than a minute into the 4th Quarter.

WLC 42, Benedictine 38 (Hoard scored again for the Eagles, then Warriors answered with a Parbs TD run)
       Less than 10 min left in regulation.

IL Eagles back up 45-42 (Jarnigan to Senerchia TD pass) Less than 6 minutes left
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11/13 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 13, 2021, 04:48:06 PM
WLC 49, Benedictine 45 Less than 1 1/2 min left. (Parbs another rushing TD)

Benedictine 51, WLC 49  52 seconds left, (Jarnigan to Holliday TD pass) (conversion failed) a FG wins it for WLC

Not to be, IL Eagles just intercepted a pass, game over.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2021, 01:52:48 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on May 16, 2021, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on April 08, 2021, 09:41:29 PM
History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year:

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17
Aurora: 08, (16), 19
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
Maranatha: -

*Lakeland leads with 5 total, 4 in a row during the Michael Whitley era.

*Aurora and Benedictine are tied with 3 each (2 outright for AU, 1 outright for BU)

*CUC has back to back titles from 2011 to 2012 (2012 being the outright champion)

*Was surprised to realize CUW has only one NACC championship to their name which came in 2013.

*WLC's title came in 2014 amidst a 3-way tie with Lakeland and Benedictine.

*Eureka surprised everyone (except maybe Eureka) and won the title in their inaugural NACC season.

*Rockford has struggled to get back on track since the NACC's inception, but their program is headed in the right direction.

*Maranatha dissolved their football program before winning one.

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20)
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
Maranatha: -

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20), 21
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
St. Norbert: -
Maranatha: -
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 09, 2021, 07:28:48 PM
2021 NACC All-Region Team is here:

https://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2021-22/releases/20211208pd6j5m
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 09, 2021, 07:32:15 PM
News on a coaching change at Rockford here:

https://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2021-22/releases/20211209mawuq0
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on January 03, 2022, 10:34:53 PM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on December 09, 2021, 07:32:15 PM
News on a coaching change at Rockford here:

https://www.naccsports.org/sports/fball/2021-22/releases/20211209mawuq0

He deserves that head coaching job, too. Rockford's offense has never been that explosive. Great Offensive Coordinator, going to do great things at the helm for that program.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on January 03, 2022, 11:14:48 PM
With the off-season in full swing and Spring Practices up next for our NACC teams, it's time to talk recruiting and the new talent that will be wearing our team colors. I am excited to report that Aurora University has already received a commitment from (maybe) the most highly touted recruit in program history for the 2022 class. Remember the name Ty Hopp. (You can see his commitment announcement on his twitter page here: https://twitter.com/hopp_ty )

A local 2-star prospect from Aurora Central Catholic, rated the 66th best recruit in Illinois and the 315th LB nationally by 247sports.com, Hopp is a HUGE get for Don Beebe and the Spartans. He had an offer from Air Force and was being recruited by Wisconsin and Northwestern. Here is the link to his 247sports recruiting profile: https://247sports.com/Player/Ty-Hopp-46101261/

With the most successful Senior class in AU history graduating this Spring, the 2022 recruiting class is going to be very important to the Spartans continuing their dominant run in the NACC. We have to replace a 2-time Gagliardi finalist at QB, the most prolific running back in school history, an elite TE and so many more important positions. With starting LB Blake Martz graduating, Hopp will fit in nicely year 1 beside Bowers and Romious and the others, making our already outstanding LB core even better for 2022.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on February 02, 2022, 02:59:05 PM
What is Aurora doing? They went across the country and took a LB 5 minutes from Salisbury University Campus. Right into the backyard. Good pickup by them.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on February 04, 2022, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: FANOFD3 on February 02, 2022, 02:59:05 PM
What is Aurora doing? They went across the country and took a LB 5 minutes from Salisbury University Campus. Right into the backyard. Good pickup by them.

Probably using the recruiting tool NCSA.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on March 06, 2022, 06:02:03 PM
Quote from: FANOFD3 on February 02, 2022, 02:59:05 PM
What is Aurora doing? They went across the country and took a LB 5 minutes from Salisbury University Campus. Right into the backyard. Good pickup by them.

Don Beebe has really increased the recruiting range for AU. I love the diverse roster he's put together. LB and O-line appear to be the primary positions targeted this offseason.

And Salisbury is making deep runs in the playoff year after year. We're just trying to get to the level you guys are at  :)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on July 18, 2022, 09:30:13 AM
https://www.d3football.com/notables/2022/07/lakefront-bowl-comes-to-wisconsin

I like this move here. Feel like the Midwest and NACC more or less have entertaining matchups in non-con play. Good to see a bowl showcasing two leagues that tend to struggle come postseason time.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 21, 2022, 12:29:43 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on July 18, 2022, 09:30:13 AM
https://www.d3football.com/notables/2022/07/lakefront-bowl-comes-to-wisconsin
I like this move here. Feel like the Midwest and NACC more or less have entertaining matchups in non-con play. Good to see a bowl showcasing two leagues that tend to struggle come postseason time.

Great move for both conferences. Great for the seniors on a team that just misses out on the playoff AQ. Excited to watch the inaugural game!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 25, 2022, 08:44:31 AM
NACC 2022 Pre-Season Football Poll is now out:

https://naccsports.org/news/2022/8/24/aurora-named-favorite-for-2022-nacc-football-title.aspx
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 26, 2022, 12:05:31 PM
That first place vote for Rockford.....
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 01, 2022, 10:17:05 PM
9/1 Final:  Illinois College 38, Lakeland 20

IC:  3 pass interceptions returned for pick-6's, then built up enough of a cushion to hold on for a road win here.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 04, 2022, 04:06:45 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on August 26, 2022, 12:05:31 PM
That first place vote for Rockford.....

I'm a big fan of what Rockford's offense has turned into, but the first place vote for this season is pretty wild haha. Who knows though, they are 1 of 2 NACC teams that took care of business week 1. Aurora took their foot off the gas and blew a 10 point 4th quarter lead to Hope in what turned out to be one of the more entertaining games this week (game is on YouTube if anyone wants to watch the replay).

Some notes I got from the game:
*Aurora might have their best Oline in program history. Everyone is gonna talk about Toth at LT, and rightfully so, but Cole at guard and I believe Kickel at the other guard really looked good. The entire line was cohesive and worked well together. Swanson throws a good looking ball and Chretin reads the blocks naturally. Excited for what the offense can be going forward.
*Defense played well in the 2nd and 3rd quarter, but for whatever reason, tackling seemed foreign to them at the finish. The defense has some playmakers though. Jordan is a monster up front and I really like Romious and Bower at LB. Robbie Peterson wasn't out there, which I hope is only precautionary and he'll be ready to go come conference play. Nordmeyer had a great pick, high pointing a deep post and Quin Davis looks like he's adjusted to the physicality since last season.
*Wielgosz is a real boom or bust punter. He had some punts that looked elite, but some that he shanked.

Overall, it would have been nice to wrap that game up and get the W in Michigan. But it looks more like Beebe has AU reloading, not rebuilding, which is very exciting.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 06, 2022, 09:38:17 PM
Best.....new.....trophy....ever.

https://twitter.com/WLCCoachTreske/status/1567180642810470402?s=20&t=Iim_yf-yQ8LBkHU9ntuuPQ
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 06, 2022, 11:57:37 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on September 06, 2022, 09:38:17 PM
Best.....new.....trophy....ever.

https://twitter.com/WLCCoachTreske/status/1567180642810470402?s=20&t=Iim_yf-yQ8LBkHU9ntuuPQ

100%
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 14, 2022, 01:45:10 AM
NACC conference play opening week, here are the matchups (St. Norbert on a bye this week)

Away        Home
Aurora       Concordia Chicago
Rockford    Eureka      
CUW          Benedictine   
Lakeland    Wisconsin Lutheran

Predictions:
*Aurora over CUC by 20+, extending their NACC winning streak to 23 straight games. CUC has raw talent, but their youth will be exposed by AU's experience. AU's front 7 will shut Daniels and CUC's run game down early and force CUC to go to the air. I expect AU's athletic pass rushers and secondary to have a field day on Saturday.
*Rockford over Eureka by 20+. Rockford's receivers had a case of the drops early on against Greenville, which put them in too big a hole to climb out of. The offense bounces back and gets off to a hot start this week, burying an offensively-stunted Eureka squad.
*(GAME OF THE WEEK) Benedictine over CUW by 10-14. Benedictine pulls away late against a stronger-than-expected 2022 CUW Falcons roster. The winner of this game may very well end up receiving the NACC's bid to the inaugural COUSINS SUBS LAKEFRONT BOWL (or at the very least compete against St. Norbert for that honor later this season.) I think the final score ends up being closer to 49-35 than 21-7.
*Lakeland over WLC by 20+. The last time Lakeland lost to Wisconsin Lutheran was in 2016 (12-3 all-time record.) Last September, Lakeland beat the brakes off WLC, and though the Muskies still have questions to answer at the QB position and on defense, WLC will more than likely find themselves with their 3rd straight blowout loss. Based off the last 2 weeks (14 points scored, 96 points against), WLC's only winnable game looks to be Eureka. Barring an upset in NACC play, WLC could wind up 0-10 at the end of the season.

NACC Week 3 Power Rankings:
(1.) Aurora
(2.) Benedictine
(3.) St. Norbert
(4.) CUW
(5.) Rockford
(6.) CUC
(7.) Lakeland
(8.) Eureka
(9.) WLC
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 17, 2022, 10:22:01 PM
Aurora 56 Concordia Chicago 7
Benedictine 55 Concordia Wisconsin 17
Eureka 31 Rockford 14
Wisconsin Lutheran 25 Lakeland 21
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 17, 2022, 11:22:04 PM
I think you are overlooking the fact that WLC played two tough opponents in Non-conference. Lake Forest is still receiving votes and Carroll should break into the top half into the CCIW. I think WLC should be fine in conference play.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Next Man Up on September 18, 2022, 01:39:36 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 14, 2022, 01:45:10 AM


Predictions:
*Aurora over CUC by 20+, extending their NACC winning streak to 23 straight games. CUC has raw talent, but their youth will be exposed by AU's experience. AU's front 7 will shut Daniels and CUC's run game down early and force CUC to go to the air. I expect AU's athletic pass rushers and secondary to have a field day on Saturday.

*Rockford over Eureka by 20+. Rockford's receivers had a case of the drops early on against Greenville, which put them in too big a hole to climb out of. The offense bounces back and gets off to a hot start this week, burying an offensively-stunted Eureka squad.

*(GAME OF THE WEEK) Benedictine over CUW by 10-14. Benedictine pulls away late against a stronger-than-expected 2022 CUW Falcons roster. The winner of this game may very well end up receiving the NACC's bid to the inaugural COUSINS SUBS LAKEFRONT BOWL (or at the very least compete against St. Norbert for that honor later this season.) I think the final score ends up being closer to 49-35 than 21-7.

*Lakeland over WLC by 20+. The last time Lakeland lost to Wisconsin Lutheran was in 2016 (12-3 all-time record.) Last September, Lakeland beat the brakes off WLC, and though the Muskies still have questions to answer at the QB position and on defense, WLC will more than likely find themselves with their 3rd straight blowout loss. Based off the last 2 weeks (14 points scored, 96 points against), WLC's only winnable game looks to be Eureka. Barring an upset in NACC play, WLC could wind up 0-10 at the end of the season.


:o
Looks like either someone needs to repeat Football Theory 101, or the crystal ball needs polishing. Maybe both? ::)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2022, 11:04:17 AM
That's why THEY do the playing, and WE do the guessing. . .  :) :) :) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 19, 2022, 05:24:50 PM
Quote from: Next Man Up on September 18, 2022, 01:39:36 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on September 14, 2022, 01:45:10 AM


Predictions:
*Aurora over CUC by 20+, extending their NACC winning streak to 23 straight games. CUC has raw talent, but their youth will be exposed by AU's experience. AU's front 7 will shut Daniels and CUC's run game down early and force CUC to go to the air. I expect AU's athletic pass rushers and secondary to have a field day on Saturday.

*Rockford over Eureka by 20+. Rockford's receivers had a case of the drops early on against Greenville, which put them in too big a hole to climb out of. The offense bounces back and gets off to a hot start this week, burying an offensively-stunted Eureka squad.

*(GAME OF THE WEEK) Benedictine over CUW by 10-14. Benedictine pulls away late against a stronger-than-expected 2022 CUW Falcons roster. The winner of this game may very well end up receiving the NACC's bid to the inaugural COUSINS SUBS LAKEFRONT BOWL (or at the very least compete against St. Norbert for that honor later this season.) I think the final score ends up being closer to 49-35 than 21-7.

*Lakeland over WLC by 20+. The last time Lakeland lost to Wisconsin Lutheran was in 2016 (12-3 all-time record.) Last September, Lakeland beat the brakes off WLC, and though the Muskies still have questions to answer at the QB position and on defense, WLC will more than likely find themselves with their 3rd straight blowout loss. Based off the last 2 weeks (14 points scored, 96 points against), WLC's only winnable game looks to be Eureka. Barring an upset in NACC play, WLC could wind up 0-10 at the end of the season.


:o
Looks like either someone needs to repeat Football Theory 101, or the crystal ball needs polishing. Maybe both? ::)

Haha, I could not have been more wrong about all of it if I tried! Minus the AU CUC game. WLC was apparently just saving their offense for conference play, run game was on point. Eureka's defense dominated Rockford's high powered O. CUW was not even close to BU's level. Lesson learned: Take non conference results with grain of salt.

Quote from: WLCALUM83 on September 18, 2022, 11:04:17 AM
That's why THEY do the playing, and WE do the guessing. . .  :) :) :) ;) ;) ;)

WLC Lakeland was easily game of the week in the NACC. I did not see the talent or resilience from WLC in the two weeks prior, but they came out and played 60 full minutes. This could end up being one of the more wild seasons in the NACC in recent history. Excited for next weekend!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 25, 2022, 08:56:57 PM
No games this weekend with a final score closer than 3 scores difference. But next week, we get Benedictine v. St. Norbert. The biggest surprise to me in the league so far is Lakeland being winless. I thought they would be middle of the pack, but they haven't looked like The Land of previous years. Looking forward to hopefully much more competitive games next weekend. I have BU beating St. Norbert, but after last weeks results, it could be the exact opposite. AU continues to roll. We knew the offense was legitimate, but the defense continues to impress. The streak is now 24 NACC wins in a row. Next week will be against WLC.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse on October 15, 2022, 09:59:37 PM
Holy smokes in the conference awful this year.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on November 05, 2022, 08:27:40 PM
Aurora and Concordia Wisconsin next week for the NACC bid to the NCAA playoffs. (I will be surprised if it is not Aurora.)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 12, 2022, 06:57:43 PM
Final:  Aurora 42, Concordia-WI 0  Spartans get the NACC AQ.

St. Norbert, Benedictine, and Lakeland end their 2022 season with wins. (IL Eagles did it in come-from behind fashion at home.)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2022, 10:54:03 AM
Looking at the Lakefront Bowl Matchup it will most likely be.....

Concordia Wisconsin vs Monmouth (has Head to Head tiebreaker over Ripon)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2022, 05:08:00 PM
Aurora gets UW-Whitewater.....
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 14, 2022, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2022, 10:54:03 AM
Looking at the Lakefront Bowl Matchup it will most likely be.....

Concordia Wisconsin vs Monmouth (has Head to Head tiebreaker over Ripon)

Obviously not the result CUW wanted, but a nice finishing touch to a quality season. Happy for those seniors! Hope they get the NACC the inaugural victory and a 1-0 lead over the MWC.

Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2022, 05:08:00 PM
Aurora gets UW-Whitewater.....

Not an ideal draw, but the way the geography maps out generally means in any given year, the NACC champ will draw a team like Mt Union or the WIAC/MIAC/CCIW champ in the first round. I like our offensive line, think they'll give the WIAC championship defense their money's worth this Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 14, 2022, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2021, 01:52:48 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on May 16, 2021, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on April 08, 2021, 09:41:29 PM
History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year:

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17
Aurora: 08, (16), 19
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
Maranatha: -

*Lakeland leads with 5 total, 4 in a row during the Michael Whitley era.

*Aurora and Benedictine are tied with 3 each (2 outright for AU, 1 outright for BU)

*CUC has back to back titles from 2011 to 2012 (2012 being the outright champion)

*Was surprised to realize CUW has only one NACC championship to their name which came in 2013.

*WLC's title came in 2014 amidst a 3-way tie with Lakeland and Benedictine.

*Eureka surprised everyone (except maybe Eureka) and won the title in their inaugural NACC season.

*Rockford has struggled to get back on track since the NACC's inception, but their program is headed in the right direction.

*Maranatha dissolved their football program before winning one.

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20)
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
Maranatha: -

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20), 21
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
St. Norbert: -
Maranatha: -

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20), 21, 22
Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
St. Norbert: -
Maranatha: -

After the 15th season of NACC football, Aurora jumps Lakeland (both have 6 NACC titles, Aurora has 4 outright, Lakeland has 3 outright.) Benedictine has 3 titles, 1 outright.
Concordia Chicago has 2 titles, 1 outright. Both Eureka and Concordia Wisconsin have 1 outright title each. Wisconsin Lutheran has 1 shared title.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2022, 02:13:06 PM
Aurora leads Whitewater 21-14 at halftime.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2022, 03:43:29 PM
The curse is over!

Aurora 33
Whitewater 28

Final
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2022, 04:08:56 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2022, 03:43:29 PM
The curse is over!

Aurora 33
Whitewater 28

Final

What. A. Game!!!
Aurora's offensive line lived up to the billing, Cam Moore was the best athlete on the field, Swanson stayed composed and made big time throws, Chretin showed the country he is one of the best backs there is, Burress made a tremendous play when AU needed it the most, Aurora's front seven held the line and pressured UWWs talented QB, defensive backs allowed some big plays late after some injuries took their toll but were not intimidated by the athletic WRs on Whitewater. Madsen is so shifty, Romious and Margarejo were flying around, I mean . . . I could go on and on about the players on Aurora that made this win happen, beating a 6 time national champion, the conference champion in the highest ranked conference in the country in a game nobody gave them a chance to win. But I'll finish with, Congrats to the single greatest team in NACC history. Keep on going, we're all behind you!
Go Spartans!!!!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2022, 04:13:15 PM
Aurora will play Alma next weekend. Damn it feels weird typing this.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: kiko on November 19, 2022, 04:23:01 PM
North Central guy here...

Congrats to Aurora.  Beating a purple team -- especially on the road -- is a phenomenal accomplishment and a big step for your program.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2022, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: kiko on November 19, 2022, 04:23:01 PM
North Central guy here...

Congrats to Aurora.  Beating a purple team -- especially on the road -- is a phenomenal accomplishment and a big step for your program.

I still remember that 2nd round game NC had against Mount Union, one of the best football games I've ever seen. I hope that's the same trajectory AU has going forward!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2022, 04:13:15 PM
Aurora will play Alma next weekend. Damn it feels weird typing this.
I know, that's so wild! I like that matchup too. If our defense keeps playing the run like they did against UWW, we have a realistic chance of winning that game. Honestly, it's one of the best draws in the playoffs the NACC has ever received. All it took was knocking out a national power in the first round, haha
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: New Tradition on November 19, 2022, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2022, 05:08:00 PM
Aurora gets UW-Whitewater.....

They sure did! Funny that this is how you typed it when the pairings were announced. Another NCC guy here to tip my cap. Caught the end starting with both interceptions. Fun team!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2022, 05:34:53 PM
Quote from: New Tradition on November 19, 2022, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2022, 05:08:00 PM
Aurora gets UW-Whitewater.....

They sure did! Funny that this is how you typed it when the pairings were announced. Another NCC guy here to tip my cap. Caught the end starting with both interceptions. Fun team!

During the postgame press conference, Coach Don Beebe told reporters that the Spartans wanted either UWW or Mount Union first round, and during selection Sunday, the players erupted with excitement when UWW was announced. This team has the talent and mindset. I love to see it!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2022, 05:36:07 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2022, 05:34:53 PM
Quote from: New Tradition on November 19, 2022, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2022, 05:08:00 PM
Aurora gets UW-Whitewater.....

They sure did! Funny that this is how you typed it when the pairings were announced. Another NCC guy here to tip my cap. Caught the end starting with both interceptions. Fun team!

During the postgame press conference, Coach Don Beebe told reporters that the Spartans wanted either UWW or Mount Union first round, and during selection Sunday, the players erupted with excitement when UWW was announced. This team has the talent and mindset. I love to see it!

Also, congrats on NCC's domination over Lake Forest! Best of luck to both our teams in round 2!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 19, 2022, 06:00:19 PM
Aurora reminds me of Franklin back in the late 00s early 10s. A high powered offense in a weaker conference not afraid to mix it up with the big boys. Grizzlies made a quarterfinal appearance in 08 after beating top seed NCC in the 2nd round. Aurora got their big win in the 1st round and have a good shot at reaching the quarterfinals now. Best of luck Spartans. :)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2022, 06:39:45 PM
Quote from: New Tradition on November 19, 2022, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2022, 05:08:00 PM
Aurora gets UW-Whitewater.....

They sure did! Funny that this is how you typed it when the pairings were announced. Another NCC guy here to tip my cap. Caught the end starting with both interceptions. Fun team!

Oh don't get me wrong. Still had flashbacks when UWW in their heyday crushed Lakeland 70-7 after seeing what they did to a really down UWSP team. As the week progress I felt more like AU had a good shot.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2022, 06:47:41 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 19, 2022, 06:00:19 PM
Aurora reminds me of Franklin back in the late 00s early 10s. A high powered offense in a weaker conference not afraid to mix it up with the big boys. Grizzlies made a quarterfinal appearance in 08 after beating top seed NCC in the 2nd round. Aurora got their big win in the 1st round and have a good shot at reaching the quarterfinals now. Best of luck Spartans. :)

I remember a Franklin team with Chase Burton throwing the ball all over the yard and Deontez Alexander making long TD catches regularly. That's the comparison I have for Swanson and Moore. Great passer and elite athlete at WR. The absolute best part of today's win though is how far our defense has come. The offense didn't need to drop 60 in order to win like 2019 and the St John's game. AU played complimentary football, and I am so excited to see what they do next Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: emma17 on November 19, 2022, 07:04:15 PM
Congratulations to Aurora on a great and well deserved victory. Your team is a joy to watch. I was prepared for an offensive show, but the performance of the defense took me by surprise.
I sure hope any of your players that got dinged up heal quickly and are ready to roll as I'm looking forward to watching and rooting for your team.

Congratulations.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: gbpuckfan on November 19, 2022, 07:22:51 PM
Way to go Aurora! 
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2022, 07:48:21 PM
Quote from: emma17 on November 19, 2022, 07:04:15 PM
Congratulations to Aurora on a great and well deserved victory. Your team is a joy to watch. I was prepared for an offensive show, but the performance of the defense took me by surprise.
I sure hope any of your players that got dinged up heal quickly and are ready to roll as I'm looking forward to watching and rooting for your team.

Congratulations.

Both teams played so hard, which was especially impressive in those midwest winter conditions! It was a fun back and forth game with everything a football fan could want. The UWW players have nothing to hang their heads about. I hope all the players out there today heal up too!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 19, 2022, 08:02:24 PM
Massive props to the Spartans on this historic win, and best of luck to Aurora going forward. As a hardcore Bills fan I'm rooting big-time for Don Beebe, one of my all-time favorite Bills.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 19, 2022, 08:41:30 PM
Congrats to Aurora!  :o
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: hazzben on November 19, 2022, 09:37:11 PM
Very nice win for Aurora!!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 19, 2022, 10:19:08 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 19, 2022, 08:41:30 PM
Congrats to Aurora!  :o
Quote from: hazzben on November 19, 2022, 09:37:11 PM
Very nice win for Aurora!!
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 19, 2022, 08:02:24 PM
Massive props to the Spartans on this historic win, and best of luck to Aurora going forward. As a hardcore Bills fan I'm rooting big-time for Don Beebe, one of my all-time favorite Bills.

The team has that Don Beebe never-quit attitude! Let's keep it rolling!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: lmitzel on November 19, 2022, 10:29:19 PM
I've been a fan of Don Beebe going back to when he was coaching at Aurora Christian (he started there between my freshman and sophomore years), so I'm thrilled for what he and the Spartans were able to do today. If this is the beginning of their ascension into the ranks of the top D3 programs, what a way to start it.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 20, 2022, 01:58:13 AM
Quote from: lmitzel on November 19, 2022, 10:29:19 PM
I've been a fan of Don Beebe going back to when he was coaching at Aurora Christian (he started there between my freshman and sophomore years), so I'm thrilled for what he and the Spartans were able to do today. If this is the beginning of their ascension into the ranks of the top D3 programs, what a way to start it.

I remember a few of those Aurora Christian teams playing a few Wisconsin schools years back. Always heard how fast they were. Still hats off to Coach Beebe and Aurora. Good luck to y'all at North Central on your run as well.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 22, 2022, 02:29:55 PM
Good article here on the D3football homepage about Don Beebe and the belief instilled in Aurora's program: https://d3football.com/playoffs/2022/beebe-has-aurora-believing
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 26, 2022, 03:03:19 PM
Aurora 48
Alma 26

Final

Spartans dominated from start to finish in this one.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 26, 2022, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 26, 2022, 03:03:19 PM
Aurora 48
Alma 26

Final

Spartans dominated from start to finish in this one.

Aurora is a top 10 football team! We are now just one win from being in the national semi-final!

Wartburg's defense is incredible, but they lost their starting QB to an ankle injury late vs St John's. And honestly, they just held on to that game in spite of how poor their backup Q looked. If their starter can't go this Saturday, Wartburg's defense is going to have to overwhelm AU's potent offense and they'll have to be able to run the ball effectively against our strong front 7.

This season is not only great for this 2022 AU roster and all the alumni that came before, but for all NACC teams going forward. Now maybe our AQs won't be paired with the Wisconsin Whitewaters and St John's every first round. Maybe the playoff committee will give us some east coast teams to play in the years to come  ;D

I'm excited to see AU come out fired up this Saturday vs a nationally renowned defense. If Chretin and our offensive line can control the line of scrimmage like they did today at Alma, I'll feel really good about our chances.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse4 on November 27, 2022, 09:17:43 AM
This will be the best defense AU has faced all year. As hot as AU's offense is, Wartburg's defense is equally hot.

Will be a fantastic matchup.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Schipper Strong on November 27, 2022, 12:26:52 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 26, 2022, 08:57:25 PM
This season is not only great for this 2022 AU roster and all the alumni that came before, but for all NACC teams going forward. Now maybe our AQs won't be paired with the Wisconsin Whitewaters and St John's every first round. Maybe the playoff committee will give us some east coast teams to play in the years to come  ;D
Hello from the ARC, Central fan here, as much as I normally take joy in seeing Wartburg lose, I want them to win for the same reason. Central and Wartburg are tired of playing WIAC teams the first round every time we get in the playoffs too. The "joy" of geography right? Good luck to both teams on Saturday. At least one of the two will move on to the semifinals and hopefully get some much deserved credit/recognition for their conference. Congratulations on knocking out Whitewater.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2022, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: Schipper Strong on November 27, 2022, 12:26:52 PM
Central and Wartburg are tired of playing WIAC teams the first round every time we get in the playoffs too.

To be fair, this happened to Central three times in the 20-plus years of the five-round playoff.
This has happened to Wartburg two times in the 20-plus years of the five-round playoff.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 27, 2022, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: Schipper Strong on November 27, 2022, 12:26:52 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 26, 2022, 08:57:25 PM
This season is not only great for this 2022 AU roster and all the alumni that came before, but for all NACC teams going forward. Now maybe our AQs won't be paired with the Wisconsin Whitewaters and St John's every first round. Maybe the playoff committee will give us some east coast teams to play in the years to come  ;D
Hello from the ARC, Central fan here, as much as I normally take joy in seeing Wartburg lose, I want them to win for the same reason. Central and Wartburg are tired of playing WIAC teams the first round every time we get in the playoffs too. The "joy" of geography right? Good luck to both teams on Saturday. At least one of the two will move on to the semifinals and hopefully get some much deserved credit/recognition for their conference. Congratulations on knocking out Whitewater.

Absolutely! I think it will be an entertaining game between 2 teams from ascending conferences. It's good for the game, too. Get some new blood in the national conversation.

Quote from: SpartanHouse4 on November 27, 2022, 09:17:43 AM
This will be the best defense AU has faced all year. As hot as AU's offense is, Wartburg's defense is equally hot.

Will be a fantastic matchup.

Strength vs strength. Gonna be a fun one. Hope AU can keep this train rolling!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Schipper Strong on November 27, 2022, 08:39:42 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2022, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: Schipper Strong on November 27, 2022, 12:26:52 PM
Central and Wartburg are tired of playing WIAC teams the first round every time we get in the playoffs too.

To be fair, this happened to Central three times in the 20-plus years of the five-round playoff.
This has happened to Wartburg two times in the 20-plus years of the five-round playoff.
There's the problem, I've been around longer than that, so it seems more often because you missed some.  ;D
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2022, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: Schipper Strong on November 27, 2022, 08:39:42 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2022, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: Schipper Strong on November 27, 2022, 12:26:52 PM
Central and Wartburg are tired of playing WIAC teams the first round every time we get in the playoffs too.

To be fair, this happened to Central three times in the 20-plus years of the five-round playoff.
This has happened to Wartburg two times in the 20-plus years of the five-round playoff.
There's the problem, I've been around longer than that, so it seems more often because you missed some.  ;D

Before this, it was four rounds and the West had to play West teams the first two rounds, so ... not really comparable.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: RFMichigan on December 03, 2022, 02:05:00 PM
Ugh. Bad pick-6 thrown by Aurora there. After trailing 10-0 Wartburg has come back to take a 21-10 lead in the 2nd.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Schipper Strong on December 03, 2022, 07:20:14 PM
Congratulations to Aurora on a great season. You have an excellent team, but you caught Wartburg on a day they played on another level. Wartburg has a really good team this year, but I have never seen them play like they did today. Don't let today's loss take away from all you accomplished this year.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on December 05, 2022, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: Schipper Strong on December 03, 2022, 07:20:14 PM
Congratulations to Aurora on a great season. You have an excellent team, but you caught Wartburg on a day they played on another level. Wartburg has a really good team this year, but I have never seen them play like they did today. Don't let today's loss take away from all you accomplished this year.

Was a tremendous year! We just ran into an absolute Buzzsaw. Your QB's guts in playing on that leg was very indicative of the team culture at Wartburg. Their offensive line, RB and entire defense (Especially that Rochford kid-hope I spelled his name right!) are elite. So proud of our guys for battling and for the best season in school and conference history! Let's get to the offseason and keep building!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Lindy6 on December 06, 2022, 12:57:09 PM
Way to go Region 5 (NCC, Wartburg and Aurora). 8-3 so far through the quarterfinals. Every region has intra-region knockout playoffs games with a guaranteed loss (and win). Region standings (Won-Loss):
Region 5 (8-3) 2 knockout games, 2 semi-finalists
Region 3 (5-4) 3 knockout games, 1 semi-finalist
Region 4 (4-3) 1 knockout game, 1 semi-finalist
Region 2 (4-6) 1 knockout game
Region 1 (3-5) 2 knockout games
Region 6 (4-7) 3 knockout games
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on December 06, 2022, 01:10:49 PM
Quote from: Lindy6 on December 06, 2022, 12:57:09 PM
Way to go Region 5 (NCC, Wartburg and Aurora). 8-3 so far through the quarterfinals. Every region has intra-region knockout playoffs games with a guaranteed loss (and win). Region standings (Won-Loss):
Region 5 (8-3) 2 knockout games, 2 semi-finalists
Region 3 (5-4) 3 knockout games, 1 semi-finalist
Region 4 (4-3) 1 knockout game, 1 semi-finalist
Region 2 (4-6) 1 knockout game
Region 1 (3-5) 2 knockout games
Region 6 (4-7) 3 knockout games

Very good showing from region 5! Excited to see where it takes these conferences going forward.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on December 07, 2022, 06:25:26 PM
Congrats to the NACC All-Region selections! The 2022 Aurora University Spartans are well represented.
1st Team:
QB- Josh Swanson
HB- Jhe'Quay Chretin
WR- Trey Madsen
RET- James Mautino
OT- Chris Toth
LB- Marcellus Romious
CB- Ben Slatcoff
2nd Team:
OG- Matt Kickel
DT- Jaylen Jordan
S- Ernesto Ramirez
Link to the full list: https://d3football.com/awards/all-region/2022/2022-d3football-all-region-5
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on January 09, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Update on former WLC QB Zach Shaw:

https://www.fitchburgfalcons.com/sports/fball/2022-23/releases/20230109gz0ee2
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: thunderdog on April 01, 2023, 06:54:00 PM
Hats off to the AU Spartan Football Team for volunteering their time this afternoon to pack (Feed-My Starving-Children style) over 45,000 meals to be sent to Haiti thru New Life for Haiti. The event was held at the newly established 1833 Leadership Academy in Batavia. Special thanks to the Chaney and Mickle (and those I'm unaware of) families for planning the event. As impressive as the Spartans have been on the field the last few years, they're even more impressive off the field as Coach Beebe and the rest of his staff invest time, energy, football intelligence, and most importantly, the Salvation message of our Lord Jesus Christ! It was thrilling to be part of a special afternoon. Bravo!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: thunderdog on April 01, 2023, 06:57:40 PM
Side note... looking forward to watching newcomers (and cousins) Liam Mickle (QB) and JP Chaney (DE) represent AU in the Fall of 2023!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on June 10, 2023, 12:30:34 AM
Quote from: thunderdog on April 01, 2023, 06:54:00 PM
Hats off to the AU Spartan Football Team for volunteering their time this afternoon to pack (Feed-My Starving-Children style) over 45,000 meals to be sent to Haiti thru New Life for Haiti. The event was held at the newly established 1833 Leadership Academy in Batavia. Special thanks to the Chaney and Mickle (and those I'm unaware of) families for planning the event. As impressive as the Spartans have been on the field the last few years, they're even more impressive off the field as Coach Beebe and the rest of his staff invest time, energy, football intelligence, and most importantly, the Salvation message of our Lord Jesus Christ! It was thrilling to be part of a special afternoon. Bravo!

They are recruiting the right guys at AU!

Quote from: thunderdog on April 01, 2023, 06:57:40 PM
Side note... looking forward to watching newcomers (and cousins) Liam Mickle (QB) and JP Chaney (DE) represent AU in the Fall of 2023!

Excited to see what this class turns out to be! A lot of talented kids coming in. Program is in great shape. Here's an article featuring Chris Toth as a top 5 oline prospect in the upcoming XFL rookie draft: https://xflnewshub.com/xfl-news/xfl-2023-rookie-draft-preview-ol/
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 12, 2023, 05:46:49 PM
Camp is revving up. Do we think Aurora is gonna keep the crown, or is there a team ready to give them a run? I feel like St. Norbert has the groundwork to put up a fight, maybe Benedictine as well. I believe Rockford's QB is back this season, could they bounce back after last season? Only a couple weeks til kickoff!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse4 on August 14, 2023, 05:31:10 PM
Comes down to QB play at AU this year. Pretty much everyone else is returning.

Surprised they were ranked so low in the pre-season polls after last year and what they have coming back.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on August 22, 2023, 07:11:30 AM
https://naccsports.org/news/2023/8/20/aurora-secures-top-spot-in-2023-nacc-football-preseason-poll.aspx

Preseason poll is out for football. No surprise that Aurora is the favorite here.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 24, 2023, 01:52:43 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on August 22, 2023, 07:11:30 AM
https://naccsports.org/news/2023/8/20/aurora-secures-top-spot-in-2023-nacc-football-preseason-poll.aspx

Preseason poll is out for football. No surprise that Aurora is the favorite here.

Back to back years Rockford gets a 1st place vote, too. St. Norbert over Benedictine is interesting.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 24, 2023, 02:05:13 PM
Quote from: SpartanHouse4 on August 14, 2023, 05:31:10 PM
Comes down to QB play at AU this year. Pretty much everyone else is returning.

Surprised they were ranked so low in the pre-season polls after last year and what they have coming back.

Any news on who's gonna get the starting job at Q?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: The Third Division on August 24, 2023, 02:05:40 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on August 24, 2023, 01:52:43 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on August 22, 2023, 07:11:30 AM
https://naccsports.org/news/2023/8/20/aurora-secures-top-spot-in-2023-nacc-football-preseason-poll.aspx

Preseason poll is out for football. No surprise that Aurora is the favorite here.

Back to back years Rockford gets a 1st place vote, too. St. Norbert over Benedictine is interesting.

That has to be an insult at this point.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 24, 2023, 04:27:01 PM
Quote from: The Third Division on August 24, 2023, 02:05:40 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on August 24, 2023, 01:52:43 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on August 22, 2023, 07:11:30 AM
https://naccsports.org/news/2023/8/20/aurora-secures-top-spot-in-2023-nacc-football-preseason-poll.aspx

Preseason poll is out for football. No surprise that Aurora is the favorite here.

Back to back years Rockford gets a 1st place vote, too. St. Norbert over Benedictine is interesting.

That has to be an insult at this point.

It's either that / Aurora not being able to vote for themselves and voting for Rockford instead of boosting BU, St. Norbert, Lakeland, etc. / Benedictine being the rival they are refusing to vote for the clear favorite AU. Either way, I would love to know the behind the scenes of that Rockford 1st place vote haha
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Second Wind on August 25, 2023, 01:41:35 PM
Or could it be Rockford voting for themselves? I think they're allowed to do that these days!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on August 30, 2023, 11:17:47 AM
Playoff projections for the season using my model's preseason ratings:

(https://i.imgur.com/yByaCTJ.png)

You can look at other conferences on my website: https://hansenratings.github.io/ (https://hansenratings.github.io/).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 30, 2023, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: HansenRatings on August 30, 2023, 11:17:47 AM
Playoff projections for the season using my model's preseason ratings:

(https://i.imgur.com/yByaCTJ.png)

You can look at other conferences on my website: https://hansenratings.github.io/ (https://hansenratings.github.io/).

Favorite to 5-peat!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on August 30, 2023, 04:57:08 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on August 30, 2023, 04:35:14 PM

Favorite to 5-peat!

Some might even say they're an overwhelming favorite.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on August 31, 2023, 07:40:59 PM
Had to turn off the Lakeland - UW Platteville game. Lakeland looks like they've never played football before.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on August 31, 2023, 08:21:31 PM
There's been a long delay. One Muskie player must have been seriously hurt. Several players were taking a knee with their teammate down after being injured. Defensive back Trell Randle is being loaded into an ambulance and taken off the field. . . play has resumed. It's late in the 2nd Quarter.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 02, 2023, 01:45:53 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on August 31, 2023, 08:21:31 PM
There's been a long delay. One Muskie player must have been seriously hurt. Several players were taking a knee with their teammate down after being injured. Defensive back Trell Randle is being loaded into an ambulance and taken off the field. . . play has resumed. It's late in the 2nd Quarter.

I hope the young man is okay and has a speedy recovery!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on September 02, 2023, 11:43:52 PM
Week 1 NACC Scores

(8/31)UW-Platteville 80 Lakeland 13: Hearing from the person who announces the game (I follow them on X/Twitter) the Muskies played well, just the game snowballed on them.

(8/31)Beloit 34 Rockford 27: Plenty of season left but I don't really see a game where Rockford is favored in outside of this one.

St. Norbert 23 Ripon 7: Green Knights grinded out a win over a traditionally solid Redhawk team.

Greenville 41 Concordia (Ill) 14: Cougs were dominated most of the game.

Concordia (Wis) 55 Martin Luther 14: Falcons had very little issue dispatching the Knights.

Eureka 41 Knox 16: Red Devils went wire to wire on the Prairie Fire.

Loras 42 Benedictine 41: Eagles fall in a nailbiter in Iowa.

Lake Forest 24 Wisconsin Lutheran 0: Better result than last year for the Warriors but offense was silent tonight.

#20 Aurora 38 Hope 17: Spartans overcome slow start, roll past a fiesty Hope team.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: gbpuckfan on September 03, 2023, 11:31:53 AM
SNC started slow, certainly on offense.

Ripon had some offense success early, especially passing but could not keep it up.

SNC better in the second half. Don't think Ripon had a drive longer than 20 yards. SNC had 8 sacks or so on the day.

SNC finally used good field position to turn into points

That 21 of the last 23 for SNC against Ripon
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on September 05, 2023, 08:07:28 PM
Quote from: gbpuckfan on September 03, 2023, 11:31:53 AM
SNC started slow, certainly on offense.

Ripon had some offense success early, especially passing but could not keep it up.

SNC better in the second half. Don't think Ripon had a drive longer than 20 yards. SNC had 8 sacks or so on the day.

SNC finally used good field position to turn into points

That 21 of the last 23 for SNC against Ripon

SNC's defense showed out. I think they are the most likely contenders for AU. BU's O looked good, but their D gives up too much to keep pace with Aurora's offense.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 07, 2023, 01:50:51 PM
Aurora/CUC
Rockford/St. Norbert
Lakeland/WLC
Benedictine/CUW

All on deck:
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on October 07, 2023, 04:25:59 PM
Final:  CUW 28, Benedictine 0 (Falcons get their 2nd in-NACC shutout win).

Final:  St. Norbert 58, Rockford 6 (scorigami?)

Final:  Aurora 91, CUC 0 (scorigami #2?)

Final:  WLC 34, Lakeland 14  (Warriors score 27 unanswered points; also had 4 pass interceptions on the day). This was probably the tightest game in the NACC today.

Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on October 09, 2023, 04:01:40 AM
Quote from: WLCALUM83 on October 07, 2023, 04:25:59 PM
Final:  CUW 28, Benedictine 0 (Falcons get their 2nd in-NACC shutout win).

Final:  St. Norbert 58, Rockford 6 (scorigami?)

Final:  Aurora 91, CUC 0 (scorigami #2?)

Final:  WLC 34, Lakeland 14  (Warriors score 27 unanswered points; also had 4 pass interceptions on the day). This was probably the tightest game in the NACC today.

I knew this Aurora team was good, but wow. Hopefully they keep rolling!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Second Wind on October 21, 2023, 05:45:39 PM
CUC gets off the schneid with an exciting 28-27 win v Eureka. Cougars score two TDs in the fourth including the go ahead with under a minute remaining, then survive last second FG attempt by Red Devils. Well deserved for the home fans after sitting through the Aurora debacle two weeks ago!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 06, 2023, 01:05:19 AM
Aurora vs CUW in a defacto NACC championship game next Saturday. Aurora looking for a 5-peat, CUW hoping for maybe the biggest "championship" upset the conference has ever seen. I have AU getting their 5th straight 63-14. Also, if AU wins, would CUW be the NACC selection for the Cousins Subs Lakefront Bowl, or would St. Norbert (with a win next weekend) jump them?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 06, 2023, 08:23:59 AM
Interesting question, given the Green Knights knocked off the Falcons in OT head to head.

This is where St. Norbert's loss to Eureka hurts a bit.

WLC gets a bye and finishes 5-5 on the year--to think the Warriors had St. Norbert on the ropes late, until a Green Knight last minute TD gave them the win. Thought the Warrior/Benedictine game would have at least been tighter as well, but the Warriors have nothing to be ashamed of.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse4 on November 08, 2023, 01:03:46 PM
Would love to see Illinois College travel to AU next week. Might set a record for most passes thrown in a game.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11 11 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 02:31:03 PM
Aurora/CUW 1st quarter was scoreless, but Spartans have just drawn first blood early in the 2nd on a rushing TD-

St. Norbert/Benedictine later.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11 11 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 03:02:19 PM
Spartans tack on a late 2nd quarterr FG-now 10-0 over CUW at the half.

St. Norbert/Benedictine about to get underway.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11 11 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 03:10:26 PM
St. Norbert 3, Benedictine 0 approx. 9 minutes left in opening quarter.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11 11 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 03:31:47 PM
St. Norbert 10, Benedictine 0 (Zuleger TD run)--less than 1 min gone by in 2nd quarter.

Title: Re: FB: NACC 11 11 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 03:41:22 PM
Aurora 17, CUW 0 (Spartans tack on a receiving TD) less than 8 min left in 3rd quarter.

Make that 20-0. Spartans add another FG after an interception (under 5 min left in 3rd quarter)
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11 11 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 04:03:29 PM
Aurora 23, CUW 0 End of 3rd Quarter (another FG added on).

St. Norbert 10, Benedictine 0 Half

Title: Re: FB: NACC 11 11 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 04:27:44 PM
It's a final now:  Aurora 23, CUW 0  Spartans have yet another NACC AQ!

St. Norbert 10, Benedictine 0, just underway in the 3rd.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11 11 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 04:44:45 PM
St. Norbert just got an interception in the end zone to thwart a Benedictine threat-still 10-0 Green Knights less than 3 min left in the 3rd Qrtr.

Make that 17-0, Green Knights got another TD early in the 4th--less than 12 minutes left.
Title: Re: FB: NACC 11 11 in-game updates
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 05:14:36 PM
St. Norbert 24, Benedictine 0 (Zuleger another short yardage rushing TD after another IL Eagle turnover)  Just under 6 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 11, 2023, 05:26:11 PM
St. Norbert 24, Benedictine 0 Final

One other earlier final--Rockford 61, CUC 41 (scorigami?)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 11, 2023, 09:35:22 PM
Congrats to Aurora on their perfect 10-0 regular season, a new program record! Can't wait to see the bracket tomorrow. Maybe another first with a home playoff game.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: hazzben on November 12, 2023, 08:44:50 AM
I think Aurora is deserving of a home game. You've proved it the last sevaral years in the tourney
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 12, 2023, 09:53:51 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 12, 2023, 08:44:50 AM
I think Aurora is deserving of a home game. You've proved it the last sevaral years in the tourney

Thankfully the committee agreed! I like the draw too. Going to be a great time in Aurora next Saturday!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 13, 2023, 01:05:55 AM
Aurora gets Coe at home next weekend. Coe surprised many with their inclusion in the field as a Pool C team. Winner gets most likely UW-La Crosse and a very possible date with North Central after that.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: hazzben on November 13, 2023, 12:10:31 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 12, 2023, 09:53:51 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 12, 2023, 08:44:50 AM
I think Aurora is deserving of a home game. You've proved it the last sevaral years in the tourney

Thankfully the committee agreed! I like the draw too. Going to be a great time in Aurora next Saturday!

Go get em. Nothing demands more home playoff games than getting the W when they give you one and going on a run!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2023, 02:15:04 AM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 14, 2022, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 15, 2021, 01:52:48 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on May 16, 2021, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on April 08, 2021, 09:41:29 PM
History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year:

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17
Aurora: 08, (16), 19
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
Maranatha: -

*Lakeland leads with 5 total, 4 in a row during the Michael Whitley era.

*Aurora and Benedictine are tied with 3 each (2 outright for AU, 1 outright for BU)

*CUC has back to back titles from 2011 to 2012 (2012 being the outright champion)

*Was surprised to realize CUW has only one NACC championship to their name which came in 2013.

*WLC's title came in 2014 amidst a 3-way tie with Lakeland and Benedictine.

*Eureka surprised everyone (except maybe Eureka) and won the title in their inaugural NACC season.

*Rockford has struggled to get back on track since the NACC's inception, but their program is headed in the right direction.

*Maranatha dissolved their football program before winning one.

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20)
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
Maranatha: -

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20), 21
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
St. Norbert: -
Maranatha: -

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20), 21, 22
Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
St. Norbert: -
Maranatha: -

After the 15th season of NACC football, Aurora jumps Lakeland (both have 6 NACC titles, Aurora has 4 outright, Lakeland has 3 outright.) Benedictine has 3 titles, 1 outright.
Concordia Chicago has 2 titles, 1 outright. Both Eureka and Concordia Wisconsin have 1 outright title each. Wisconsin Lutheran has 1 shared title.

UPDATED--

History of NACC football champions --
( ) indicates shared title that year
*20 indicates the shortened 20-21 spring season (In which, championship game was cancelled):

Aurora: 08, (16), 19, (*20), 21, 22, 23
Lakeland: 09, (14), 15, (16), 17, (*20)
Benedictine: 10, (11), (14)
CUC: (11), 12
Eureka: 18
CUW: 13
WLC: (14)
Rockford: -
St. Norbert: -
Maranatha: -

After the 16th season of NACC football (culminating in an Aurora 5-peat), Aurora has 7 NACC titles, 5 outright. Lakeland has 6 titles, 3 outright. Benedictine has 3 titles, 1 outright.
Concordia Chicago has 2 titles, 1 outright. Both Eureka and Concordia Wisconsin have 1 outright title each. Wisconsin Lutheran has 1 shared title.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartyBlue on November 17, 2023, 11:37:00 AM
Aurora has become a power, I would assume by virtue of having an ex-NFL 2-time Super Bowl winner as head coach, as that has to help dominate the recruiting trail.  It will be interesting to see if Don Beebe stays at AU for the long haul (he is 58) or has ambitions above the D3 level; you could see him as a coach at NIU, or heck, why not even a Northwestern, although I've never heard his name mentioned for other jobs. 

I would also have to assume that AU would regress back to its historical mean when Beebe does retire/leave.

Any followers/fans of the program have any insights?
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 17, 2023, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: SpartyBlue on November 17, 2023, 11:37:00 AM
Aurora has become a power, I would assume by virtue of having an ex-NFL 2-time Super Bowl winner as head coach, as that has to help dominate the recruiting trail.  It will be interesting to see if Don Beebe stays at AU for the long haul (he is 58) or has ambitions above the D3 level; you could see him as a coach at NIU, or heck, why not even a Northwestern, although I've never heard his name mentioned for other jobs. 

I would also have to assume that AU would regress back to its historical mean when Beebe does retire/leave.

Any followers/fans of the program have any insights?

Beebe has ties to the Aurora area, which made this a nice fit for everyone. I hope he's there for the long haul, but if he does end up going to a different school (which I imagine a good amount of other programs would have interest in), AU would be wise to hire from his staff and keep the same culture and philosphies. But for now, I think we're all content to enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2023, 03:27:19 PM
Aurora up 17-7 with under 10 minutes to play. Coe is near midfield though.

Sloppy game as AU has four turnovers (2 INT and 2 fumbles lost) while Coe has 5 (2 INT and 3 fumbles lost)

EDIT: Make that 6 turnovers for Coe as they throw another INT in Aurora territory.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2023, 03:58:22 PM
Aurora defeats Coe 20-7 in a sloppy game. Up next is UW-La Crosse.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2023, 04:03:46 PM
St. Norbert blows a 14-0 halftime lead and loses the Lakefront Bowl to Monmouth 21-14.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 18, 2023, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2023, 03:58:22 PM
Aurora defeats Coe 20-7 in a sloppy game. Up next is UW-La Crosse.

Never apologize for a victory! That being said, our offense owes our defense a few lunches.
*I haven't seen Aurora's O-line get beat like that in maybe 4 years.
*We had WRs dropping TDs, false start on 4th and inches, a terribly timed botched-snap on a 4th quarter punt.
*Chretin tried bouncing everything to the outside, and when he kept to the inside he'd get hit before getting back to the LOS.
*Tyler Adkins is a promising freshman making his first start, and thankfully he played well enough in the first quarter to get the points we needed to survive and advance, but he has to protect the ball much better if Luyando doesn't return next week. Turning the ball over 4x (I think), and the only reason we didn't get blown out was because our stellar defense (and punt team) took the ball away 7x (Yeah, this week's lunches are on the offense.)

We really missed Luyando's dual threat ability, and Coe quickly learned that the Adkins scramble threat isn't nearly as dangerous. But as is said in the movie 300, our defense, "Gave them nothing, and took from them everything!"  ;) And a playoff win is a playoff win, and the fact I can come in here and nit-pic a NACC 2-score playoff W is a privilege we should not take for granted. Happy for the guys that they get a chance to clean everything up and come next Saturday, show UW-LaX what they're capable of.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: SpartanHouse4 on November 20, 2023, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 18, 2023, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2023, 03:58:22 PM
Aurora defeats Coe 20-7 in a sloppy game. Up next is UW-La Crosse.

Never apologize for a victory! That being said, our offense owes our defense a few lunches.
*I haven't seen Aurora's O-line get beat like that in maybe 4 years.
*We had WRs dropping TDs, false start on 4th and inches, a terribly timed botched-snap on a 4th quarter punt.
*Chretin tried bouncing everything to the outside, and when he kept to the inside he'd get hit before getting back to the LOS.
*Tyler Adkins is a promising freshman making his first start, and thankfully he played well enough in the first quarter to get the points we needed to survive and advance, but he has to protect the ball much better if Luyando doesn't return next week. Turning the ball over 4x (I think), and the only reason we didn't get blown out was because our stellar defense (and punt team) took the ball away 7x (Yeah, this week's lunches are on the offense.)

We really missed Luyando's dual threat ability, and Coe quickly learned that the Adkins scramble threat isn't nearly as dangerous. But as is said in the movie 300, our defense, "Gave them nothing, and took from them everything!"  ;) And a playoff win is a playoff win, and the fact I can come in here and nit-pic a NACC 2-score playoff W is a privilege we should not take for granted. Happy for the guys that they get a chance to clean everything up and come next Saturday, show UW-LaX what they're capable of.

A playoff win with the backup QB who is a freshman....awesome stuff AU.

Much bigger test this week. Curious if the starter will be back this week.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2023, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: SpartanHouse4 on November 20, 2023, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 18, 2023, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2023, 03:58:22 PM
Aurora defeats Coe 20-7 in a sloppy game. Up next is UW-La Crosse.

Never apologize for a victory! That being said, our offense owes our defense a few lunches.
*I haven't seen Aurora's O-line get beat like that in maybe 4 years.
*We had WRs dropping TDs, false start on 4th and inches, a terribly timed botched-snap on a 4th quarter punt.
*Chretin tried bouncing everything to the outside, and when he kept to the inside he'd get hit before getting back to the LOS.
*Tyler Adkins is a promising freshman making his first start, and thankfully he played well enough in the first quarter to get the points we needed to survive and advance, but he has to protect the ball much better if Luyando doesn't return next week. Turning the ball over 4x (I think), and the only reason we didn't get blown out was because our stellar defense (and punt team) took the ball away 7x (Yeah, this week's lunches are on the offense.)

We really missed Luyando's dual threat ability, and Coe quickly learned that the Adkins scramble threat isn't nearly as dangerous. But as is said in the movie 300, our defense, "Gave them nothing, and took from them everything!"  ;) And a playoff win is a playoff win, and the fact I can come in here and nit-pic a NACC 2-score playoff W is a privilege we should not take for granted. Happy for the guys that they get a chance to clean everything up and come next Saturday, show UW-LaX what they're capable of.

A playoff win with the backup QB who is a freshman....awesome stuff AU.

Much bigger test this week. Curious if the starter will be back this week.

Topic of discussion on our podcast today.
https://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2023/11/20/running-down-the-first-round/
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 22, 2023, 12:22:53 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2023, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: SpartanHouse4 on November 20, 2023, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: Rhythm21 on November 18, 2023, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 18, 2023, 03:58:22 PM
Aurora defeats Coe 20-7 in a sloppy game. Up next is UW-La Crosse.

Never apologize for a victory! That being said, our offense owes our defense a few lunches.
*I haven't seen Aurora's O-line get beat like that in maybe 4 years.
*We had WRs dropping TDs, false start on 4th and inches, a terribly timed botched-snap on a 4th quarter punt.
*Chretin tried bouncing everything to the outside, and when he kept to the inside he'd get hit before getting back to the LOS.
*Tyler Adkins is a promising freshman making his first start, and thankfully he played well enough in the first quarter to get the points we needed to survive and advance, but he has to protect the ball much better if Luyando doesn't return next week. Turning the ball over 4x (I think), and the only reason we didn't get blown out was because our stellar defense (and punt team) took the ball away 7x (Yeah, this week's lunches are on the offense.)

We really missed Luyando's dual threat ability, and Coe quickly learned that the Adkins scramble threat isn't nearly as dangerous. But as is said in the movie 300, our defense, "Gave them nothing, and took from them everything!"  ;) And a playoff win is a playoff win, and the fact I can come in here and nit-pic a NACC 2-score playoff W is a privilege we should not take for granted. Happy for the guys that they get a chance to clean everything up and come next Saturday, show UW-LaX what they're capable of.

A playoff win with the backup QB who is a freshman....awesome stuff AU.

Much bigger test this week. Curious if the starter will be back this week.

Topic of discussion on our podcast today.
https://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2023/11/20/running-down-the-first-round/

Well, let's hope Adkins protects the ball while still making plays downfield and that Chretin and our Oline can get back to form this weekend. And of course, that our defense continues it's lockdown performance.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Rhythm21 on November 27, 2023, 03:46:02 PM
Tough way for Aurora to go out, but for the seniors and all the players on the team, just know that all the alumni are grateful for the way you all continue to build this program up. Congrats on an amazing season!
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on February 22, 2024, 03:38:14 PM
Apparently, Concordia-Wis and its sister school here in Michigan, Concordia-Ann Arbor are in financial trouble. According to media reports today, faculty and staff layoffs are planned soon, and some Ann Arbor campus buildimgs might be sold or the school might even close permanently.

The situation is somewhat confusing because both campuses have had record increased enrollment since 2022, and the Ann Arbor campus has made a financial profit every year since 2013 according to the article. Unfortunately, two Town Hall meetings at the Ann Arbor school earlier this week (one with students, the other with the public and parents) did not go well as answers were lacking, again, according to the article. It was also reported that the Athletic Director at the Ann Arbor school (former head fb coach there and at Concordia-Chicago, Lonnie Pries) is putting a group together to offer to buy the Ann Arbor university and operate it  independently.

Although the Ann Arbor school is NAIA football, while the Mequon school is, of course, NCAA, this is sad, but unfortunately, a sign of the times. Do any of you think Concirdia-Wis will drop fb or some other sports? I think the fb program at the Ann Arbor school may be in trouble.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on February 23, 2024, 12:17:35 AM
Hard to say on that front. The program at Concordia (MI) has been a contender in their league for a while now since shaking off their early struggles (61-23 with 5 postseason appearances). They should be fine in the short term but developments on that front could change that. Found it odd that both CUW and CU-AA are joined at the hip.

As for CUW....I doubt they will drop football. Whether they cut some minor sports to offset some of the financial burden will remain to be seen but that will happen before football is remotely considered for cutting.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: FiredCoachesPod on February 23, 2024, 10:27:52 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on February 22, 2024, 03:38:14 PMApparently, Concordia-Wis and its sister school here in Michigan, Concordia-Ann Arbor are in financial trouble. According to media reports today, faculty and staff layoffs are planned soon, and some Ann Arbor campus buildimgs might be sold or the school might even close permanently.

The situation is somewhat confusing because both campuses have had record increased enrollment since 2022, and the Ann Arbor campus has made a financial profit every year since 2013 according to the article. Unfortunately, two Town Hall meetings at the Ann Arbor school earlier this week (one with students, the other with the public and parents) did not go well as answers were lacking, again, according to the article. It was also reported that the Athletic Director at the Ann Arbor school (former head fb coach there and at Concordia-Chicago, Lonnie Pries) is putting a group together to offer to buy the Ann Arbor university and operate it  independently.

Although the Ann Arbor school is NAIA football, while the Mequon school is, of course, NCAA, this is sad, but unfortunately, a sign of the times. Do any of you think Concirdia-Wis will drop fb or some other sports? I think the fb program at the Ann Arbor school may be in trouble.

The next 5-10 years are going to be a tough go for all institutions but especially the small ones.
I don't think this stops at just these schools in the Midwest:
MacMurray College (May 2020)
Silver Lake/Holy Family (August 2020)
Iowa Wesleyan (May 2023)
Finlandia (May 2023)
Cardinal Stritch (May 2023)
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on February 24, 2024, 02:41:14 AM
What killed Finlandia was being basically being in Michigan Tech's back yard and being on an island in the D3 landscape along with offering limited majors.

Iowa Wesleyan tried to make do in D3 but struggled to be even remotely competitive in football before dropping back down to NAIA.

Stritch was a shocker....They had strong athletic programs when I was at WLC over a decade ago but the decline and then the pandemic finished it off.

Never got a good read on Silver Lake but again the Pandemic basically took that school out. They tried to make the jump back into the NAIA after being in the USCAA for years (former Lake Michigan Conference member btw).
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: formerd3db on February 25, 2024, 07:30:17 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on February 24, 2024, 02:41:14 AMWhat killed Finlandia was being basically being in Michigan Tech's back yard and being on an island in the D3 landscape along with offering limited majors.

Iowa Wesleyan tried to make do in D3 but struggled to be even
remotely competitive in football before dropping back down to NAIA.


Stritch was a shocker....They had strong athletic programs when I was at WLC over a decade ago but the decline and then the pandemic finished it off.

Never got a good read on Silver Lake but again the Pandemic basically took that school out. They tried to make the jump back into the NAIA after being in the USCAA for years (former Lake Michigan Conference member btw).

Two other major factors that hurt Finlandia were:

 a) they did not make recruting the Upper Peninsula high schools a priority. Concentrating on recruitment of players from Detroit and even out-of-state southern states was not helpful. Too much attrition occured each year due to difficulty in adjusting to the weather and culture if being so far north.  Even though a great number of U.P. high schools are 8- man foitball programs, and although Finlandia would obviously never have been a power, they would have aleast been competitive inbtheir last league eventually, IMO and,

b) Recruiting coaching staff from Div I former players and, again, especially those from southern states such as Florida, etc, wasn't helpful. Why woukd guys who were used to larger programs and warm weather want to go to a northern state with snow and cold and stay fir an extended time? They didn't and that turnover was difficult as well.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: FiredCoachesPod on March 12, 2024, 09:46:20 AM
Two more!

https://apnews.com/article/fontbonne-university-to-close-2025-c2397d8ff4120d4533bc08c16dfb15a3

https://www.wdio.com/front-page/top-stories/northland-college-in-ashland-launches-urgent-fundraising-appeal-to-prevent-closure/
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2024, 12:38:30 PM
I think we might have broken that Northland news on X last night. I hadn't seen anything about it until someone tipped me off via DM.
Title: Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: Captain_Joe08 on March 12, 2024, 03:08:16 PM
From what I have heard is that the issues with Northland has been circulating all winter. My question is why would they wait that long to announce a fundraiser with a short time limit if they needed that much money. Lot of people in Ashland aren't too happy about the situation.