2017 NCAA Tournament

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Gregory Sager

Quote from: middhoops on February 26, 2017, 06:49:23 PM
NESCAC teams would be very happy to never see each other again this season.

Those of us from double round-robin leagues think that you NESCAC guys barely made acquaintances with each other this season. ;)
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middhoops

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 26, 2017, 07:38:13 PM
Quote from: middhoops on February 26, 2017, 06:49:23 PM
NESCAC teams would be very happy to never see each other again this season.

Those of us from double round-robin leagues think that you NESCAC guys barely made acquaintances with each other this season. ;)
Well, yeah.  Busted.
But no less true.

bbfan44

Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

Greek Tragedy

Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

They really don't have seeds.
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AO

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 27, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

They really don't have seeds.
They effectively do, they're just secret, and not placed equally around the bracket.

Greek Tragedy

Quote from: AO on February 27, 2017, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 27, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

They really don't have seeds.
They effectively do, they're just secret, and not placed equally around the bracket.

Well, they are hardly seeds then, if they aren't placed equally around the bracket. Plus, generally they do award higher ranked teams with hosting, but that's not always the case and the host team probably doesn't always play the lowest ranked team in the 1st round.

If River Falls is the top seed in that bracket, Bethel definitely isn't the worst team.
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Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

Swarthmore isn't even the top seed in its own opening weekend pod.  Remarkable that they are hosting.

Have there ever been two closer tournament hosts than Swarthmore and Neumann?  They can't be much more than 5 miles apart.

Smitty Oom

Quote from: txg on February 27, 2017, 05:55:54 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

Swarthmore isn't even the top seed in its own opening weekend pod.  Remarkable that they are hosting.

Have there ever been two closer tournament hosts than Swarthmore and Neumann?  They can't be much more than 5 miles apart.

St. Johns Fisher and University of Rochester are both hosting as well this year... According to Sager in the UAA board that is 6 miles apart.

Greek Tragedy

Quote from: txg on February 27, 2017, 05:55:54 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

Swarthmore isn't even the top seed in its own opening weekend pod.  Remarkable that they are hosting.

Have there ever been two closer tournament hosts than Swarthmore and Neumann?  They can't be much more than 5 miles apart.

The CNU women are hosting.
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 27, 2017, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: txg on February 27, 2017, 05:55:54 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

Swarthmore isn't even the top seed in its own opening weekend pod.  Remarkable that they are hosting.

Have there ever been two closer tournament hosts than Swarthmore and Neumann?  They can't be much more than 5 miles apart.

St. Johns Fisher and University of Rochester are both hosting as well this year... According to Sager in the UAA board that is 6 miles apart.

Swarthmore and Neumann are either  seven and a half miles or eight and a half miles (depending upon which route you take) apart, so St. John Fisher and Rochester win this weird contest.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

AO

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 27, 2017, 05:42:25 PM
Quote from: AO on February 27, 2017, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 27, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

They really don't have seeds.
They effectively do, they're just secret, and not placed equally around the bracket.

Well, they are hardly seeds then, if they aren't placed equally around the bracket. Plus, generally they do award higher ranked teams with hosting, but that's not always the case and the host team probably doesn't always play the lowest ranked team in the 1st round.

If River Falls is the top seed in that bracket, Bethel definitely isn't the worst team.
My point is I believe we were told that at least in each 16 team region, everybody has a number they will use to determine who hosts and to serve as a guide to get the match ups that make the most sense while staying within budget.  Bethel is the lowest ranked team of the 4 playing at River Falls, but others have correctly pointed out it would have made more "seed" sense to send my Eagles to River Falls and Bethel to Whitewater but maybe they were separating St. Thomas and Bethel from meeting up in the 2nd round since it was a free move to do so.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 27, 2017, 08:08:49 PM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 27, 2017, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: txg on February 27, 2017, 05:55:54 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

Swarthmore isn't even the top seed in its own opening weekend pod.  Remarkable that they are hosting.

Have there ever been two closer tournament hosts than Swarthmore and Neumann?  They can't be much more than 5 miles apart.

St. Johns Fisher and University of Rochester are both hosting as well this year... According to Sager in the UAA board that is 6 miles apart.

Swarthmore and Neumann are either  seven and a half miles or eight and a half miles (depending upon which route you take) apart, so St. John Fisher and Rochester win this weird contest.

Using the official NCAA distance numbers - SJF to Rochester and Rochester to SJF are both 7.0 miles.  Swarthmore to Neumann is 11 miles and Neumann to Swarthmore is 10.

I'm not sure how those are figured, though - they have Eastern and Cabrini as 4 miles apart, which is preposterous.  CMS is literally across the street from Pitzer, but the NCAA has them at 2 miles.  Who knows?
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sac

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 27, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

They really don't have seeds.

Its almost like they forgot what they were doing in the lower left quad.  Babson has to be the top seed right?.   And Hope's pod is upside down, WashU has to be the highest seed there.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: sac on February 27, 2017, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 27, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

They really don't have seeds.

Its almost like they forgot what they were doing in the lower left quad.  Babson has to be the top seed right?.   And Hope's pod is upside down, WashU has to be the highest seed there.

I think that pod is CNU -1, Babson -2, Tufts -3, Ramapo -4.

It ladders around pretty well, actually - if you look at Whitman as the #1 overall, then CNU is 4 and Babson 5, with WashU 6, and so in.  It goes "to seed" pretty well.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 27, 2017, 09:10:28 PM
Quote from: sac on February 27, 2017, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 27, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: bbfan44 on February 27, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Trying to understand the brackets:  are the top 4 seeds Whitman, Middlebury, Swarthmore, and UWRF?

They really don't have seeds.

Its almost like they forgot what they were doing in the lower left quad.  Babson has to be the top seed right?.   And Hope's pod is upside down, WashU has to be the highest seed there.

I think that pod is CNU -1, Babson -2, Tufts -3, Ramapo -4.

It ladders around pretty well, actually - if you look at Whitman as the #1 overall, then CNU is 4 and Babson 5, with WashU 6, and so in.  It goes "to seed" pretty well.

Not if you listened to KVS on Hoopsville today. He basically said they still treated Babson as the top seed.
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