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Title: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
Post by: wheatonc on March 03, 2005, 06:18:19 pm
Steve:

Lori Kerans and Beth Baker are two of the classiest coaches around.  As disappointed as Beth was in not getting a tournament bid on Sunday night, she stayed to listen to the men's NCAA conference call, and when Wheaton's name was announced, she was ecstatic for the men's coaches and team.  That says volumes about Beth and the team player she is here at Wheaton!
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 04, 2005, 05:40:25 pm
I agree, Wheaton C, as a former Wheaton assistant coach used to say, they are the Matriarchs of the CCIW. They have been here since the beginning. Whatever respect the CCIW is gaining is because of their committment.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 04, 2005, 07:58:31 pm
Steve,

As a PRIMARILY men's board poster, I didn't want you to have to just talk to yourself!  :-)

Barring transfers, injuries, incredible recruits, etc., if you can't beat out Millikin in '06, congratulations on your '07 title!
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 05, 2005, 01:14:34 pm
Thanks Cabonney, that's a little inside joke with some friends of mine, but a little conversation is always welcome here.
Title: CCIW
Post by: dtown2 on March 06, 2005, 02:58:40 am
Congrats Millikin!!!
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 06, 2005, 10:40:34 am
Millikin knocked off WashU and will play Stout next Friday.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 06, 2005, 11:19:19 am
Freshman Lindsey Ippel scored 20 points against Wash U after scoring 26 against IWU. These next three years could be very interesting with Trenz and Ippel going at it. There both 6'2" and only freshman.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 12, 2005, 12:32:44 am
Ippel scored 21 points and grabbed 19 rebounds against Stout as Millikin advanced to the Elite 8.  This is an amazing emergence for Ippel.
Title: CCIW
Post by: bigregg on March 12, 2005, 01:45:28 am
This isn't much of a surprise for anyone that has followed Ippel during her time at St. Teresa High School.  I went to high school with her and watched her after I graduated on their way to state.  She's a tough player and loves a "big" game.  Millikin has something to look forward to for the next three years.  Good luck to Lindsey and Christy and the whole Millikin team tomorrow.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 12, 2005, 08:34:14 pm
Millikin 63, Calvin 56. Millikin's going to the Final Four!
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 12, 2005, 09:29:11 pm
Lori Kerans was a player on the 1985 Millikin team that went to the Final Four.  She started coaching the team the next year.  

I think this is the first time a CCIW women's basketball team has made the Final Four, since the league started in 1986.  North Central won the second ever national championship (1982 I think?)

It would be pretty cool if they win it all and the CCIW would have both the women's soccer and basketball champions. To go from no women's championships (since the league began in '86) to two championships in one year would be incredible.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 12, 2005, 09:36:58 pm
Millikin will play either Springfield or Southern Maine. Randolph-Macon and Scranton will play the other semifinal.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 12, 2005, 11:25:39 pm
I'm really hoping for a CCIW vs. ODAC showdown for the championship - both are elite conferences on the men's side (ODAC certainly LESS elite, but clearly among the top ten), but neither has previously had a team even reach the final four on the women's side.

The dramatic break-through by both conferences' women would be all-the-sweeter in a year when neither conference even reached the sectionals in the men's tourney!
Title: CCIW
Post by: blueblooded1331 on March 13, 2005, 02:37:26 am
what's the word on how Millikin will fare against the winner of Southern Maine/Springfield (and who's likely to win that SM/Springfield game)? Don't know too much about these teams...
Title: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 13, 2005, 02:47:28 am
Southern Maine should win that game, but they lost one of their best players shortly before the tournament, who was kicked off the team. They seem to be doing alright without her for now and should win Sunday, but you never know.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 14, 2005, 08:17:43 am
The loss of Jones and the emergence of Ippel should make this a very interesting matchup. Millikin proved that they can go on the road and beat good teams.
Title: CCIW
Post by: d-mac on March 15, 2005, 04:51:18 pm
And then there were FOUR... or really eight!
This weekend... the best of the best are crowded
But before then... we tell you who we think are the best... on "Hoopsville"!!!


Eight teams in the nation can see where the road finishes. But who is going to get past the final two exits?

Millikin took out Calvin in a hard fought battle... to earn their way to the Women's Final Four. So is this Illinois team ready to go? Coach Lori Kerans will let us know. Her #6 ranked Big Blue Ladies are the lowest ranked team remaining, but still battle tested and ready for their semi-final game with Southern Maine.

The #1 ranked Scranton Lady Royals sure had a tough road to drive as they took on last year's championship finalist, Bowdoin College in the Elite Eight. Scranton showed why they are the #1 team in the nation, knocking off the Polar Bears. So do the Lady Royals have anything left in the tank for Randolph-Macon in the semi-finals? Coach Mike Strong answer that question and if that #1 ranking adds any pressure.

On the men's side, Rochester is still marching... even though mid-way through the season, most thought they had no chance. But their star player returned... and they knocked off not only last year's Final Four finalist Amherst in the Sweet 16... but then took out a suddenly hot SUNY-Potsdam team in the Elite Eight. Now, Rochester has been here before, and Coach Mike Neer has the experience. But how does his team prepare for a tough Final Four match-up with Calvin.

Calvin - people warned us about. They are the only team left in this men's tournament that has played every game to get here. First Wheaton, then Aurora, finally Mississippi College fell to the side of the Knights. Then came MIAA conference foe - and champion Albion. Which Calvin disposed of 60-52... to take their drive to Salem... for the first time since they won the national title in 2000.
So, what will Coach Kevin Vande Streek use from that last title run to help his team get past Rochester and into the title game? We will ask him that and much more (including if he saw Albion's buzzer beater Friday night? Jared did!).

And then there is York College (PA)... 11-15 last year... flew under many radars most of the year... and now they are in the first Final Four in the school's history.
Coach Jeff Gamber has traveled to Salem before, but never with a team playing. Now, after 28 years... he in Salem as a participant. But, this trip is completely new to Coach Gamber and the Spartans, who until this year had never won a NCAA Tournament game. We will talk to the coach of York and see if he has yet to come down from the high of beating Kings on Saturday to lock up the trip to Salem.

So come join us online and LIVE from 8-10PM Eastern!
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2005, 05:48:23 pm
Well, Millikin beat my hometown team, USM, 66-60 to make it to the Championship game.  Congratulations to Millikin.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Allen M. Karon on March 19, 2005, 04:29:54 pm
Watching the national title game on CSTV--

Looking good for the Millikin Big Blue--Millikin up by 20 with 7:26 to go.

I'll switch back to Mark Simon for the post-game show, as my internet connection is such that the internet audio is not in synch with the live TV feed.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Allen M. Karon on March 19, 2005, 04:47:04 pm
Congratulations to the Millikin Big Blue--

NCAA DIII Women's Basketball National Champions.

Lindsay Ippel gets my vote for Most Outstanding Player of the Tournament.

Millikin is a well-deserving national champion.

Congrats also to the CCIW-- your conference has always been respected in men's hoop-- women's hoop can now be added to the list.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2005, 04:58:49 pm
CCIW is having a trememdous year in women's sports.  Wheaton national champs in soccer, Millikin in basketball.  It's great to see.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Allen M. Karon on March 19, 2005, 05:14:47 pm
All tournament team--

Megan Myles-- USM
Meghan Silva-- Randolph-Macon
Lindsay Ippel-- Millikin
Audrey Minnott-- Millikin

Most outstanding player of tournament:  Joanna Conner, Millikin.  (The NCAA's pick for MOP is also a great pick, in my opinion.)
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2005, 05:27:08 pm
Allen-any idea about All-Americans?
Title: CCIW
Post by: diehardfan on March 19, 2005, 11:09:32 pm
Congrats Millikin!!! Wow, what a great run! And a national championship blowout? Amazing. Thanks for bringing the conference a lot of respect and a lot for us to be proud of.  

I bet that voter that incessantly voted for Millikin when no one else was is feeling pretty good about himself right now. :-)

I joked earlier this year that wheaton's respect could be seen with a microscope... looks like Millikin's newfound respect can be seen with a big huge national championship trophy!

Man, it's crazy to think how many returning players there are on Wheaton and Millikin, and even crazier to realize that the CCIW MOP wasn't even from the national championship team. Great basketball to come in this league next year!

Have a great offseason, and take some time off to celebrate and enjoy this Millikin players... like all spring, summer, and fall...
Title: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 20, 2005, 12:38:44 am
Way to go, Millikin!!!

Surprisingly, being from IWU, I didn't even gag saying that!

Posters who know far more than I, does the CCIW have hopes of moving beyond the men's NCAC (i.e., Witt/Woo and the '7' dwarfs); we've got the national champion, a Wheaton team that might have made it to the Final Four (and has the FRESHMAN CCIW MOP), but do we have anything else?  (I know IWU was the pool A team only a couple of years ago, but was that just a fluke, or do we really have a CONFERENCE?)

In other words, are we moving beyond #1 Millikin, #2 Wheaton, #3-8 who cares, to an actual power conference in women's hoops?
Title: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 20, 2005, 02:43:45 am
Congrats, Big Blue!
Title: CCIW
Post by: Allen M. Karon on March 20, 2005, 04:55:21 pm
D3Hoops.com All Americans on the women's side should be posted later this week-- Mark Simon said on the pre-game show just before the national championship game that the voters voting on these players wanted a few more days to think about their choices.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Steve on March 23, 2005, 12:29:44 am
Trenz and Conner are both third team All-Americans.  Trenz is only the third freshman All-American in D3hoops history.
Title: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 23, 2005, 08:17:38 pm
Steve (since you seem to be the only one consistently here!),

DO we seem to be moving towards a national conference, or are we stuck at the big 2 and the little 6?
Title: CCIW
Post by: Lurker on March 23, 2005, 09:25:31 pm
cabonney:

A team other than Wheaton or Millikin won the conference as recently as 2002-03 (IWU).  And this year IWU lost in OT at Millikin in the regular season and beat Wheaton in the tournament.  Wheaton and Millikin are clearly the powers, but I do not think the CCIW is quite a "big 2, little 6."
Title: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 23, 2005, 10:35:49 pm
Lurker,

As I posted above, I'm aware that IWU won the tourney just a couple of years ago.

But there ARE two powers, and being a VERY recent follower of the women's board, I'm wondering whether this (2 powers) is likely to be the norm?  Afterall, until this year, the CCIW didn't even have a team in the Final Four in 20 years!

Clearly the CCIW is not the power in the women's game that it is in the men's.  Also, clearly, we do have two teams threatening to join the 'perpetual' elite (aka, become honorary 'down-easters'!)  

My question remains 'will the overall conference join the elite'?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: True Basketball Fan on September 12, 2005, 09:07:47 pm
Joining late.....................

Elmhurst showed promise last year and looks to be tough again with all of the starters back, but it is probably short-lived.  I couldn't include them in the upper group, not just yet.  North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, and Carthage are still fluttering around, and North Park and Augie are just plain awful.  It will probably continue for a least the next several years to be a two team race, not just for the CCIW title but for the national one as well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanPride24 on September 14, 2005, 12:32:36 pm
IWU has a huge incoming class of girls and i've heard good things about a new freshman that might crack the starting line-up at point guard, replacing 3-year starter Hannah Meharry.
It should be a good season for the Titans, hopefully fewer injuries and a junior varsity program that will help the younger players get some playing time and experience.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 15, 2005, 12:54:58 am
TP24,

Ah, finally the sort of information that I (400 miles removed!) have been seeking!

Do you get the sense that they are a legitimate threat to the domination of Millikin and Wheaton, or just perhaps 'best of the rest'?  (Or, perhaps, a threat, but not for a year or two?)

Since Millikin and Wheaton are returning nearly everyone of signifcance, I'm GUESSING that the Titan threat (assuming it exists) is for the future rather than this season - comments?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanPride24 on September 15, 2005, 01:31:32 am
Not only are MU and Wheaton returning almost everyone, but the Titans only lose one Senior, Hannah as I mentioned eariler. Their senior class this year is extremely talented and deep, with starters Katie Blonn, Amanda Glerum, Val Fleishman, and All-CCIW Heidi Harnisch. This team is very similar to the Titan men's team, very loaded with senior talent.  This is definitely their best chance to win the CCIW, IMO.

I was at the Millikin game at Millikin when they took the national champs into overtime with an injured Heidi Harnisch and Amanda Glerum.  That was definitely a game they could have easily won.  And I was at there when they beat Wheaton, a team they had lost to by 30 points twice, at the CCIW tourney.

This team definitely has the talent, leadership, and depth to be considered a legitimate threat this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 15, 2005, 11:21:16 pm
Thanks!

I'll look forward then to at least a THREE-team race!  :)

Although I suspect the final outcome will be Millikin, then Wheaton, then (hopefully) IWU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: True Basketball Fan on September 17, 2005, 09:03:41 pm
I guess it's a race for the 4th and final playoff spot, or warmup semifinal game for Millikin, however you want to put it.  I'm predicting it will come down to another late game (Elmhurst vs. NC) to decide who gets whacked in Decatur.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: True Basketball Fan on September 25, 2005, 06:09:52 pm
Not that anybody cares, but the battle for last place will be Augie and NP.  If they split against eachother, there will be a tie for last at 1-13.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: coachjensen on September 29, 2005, 10:04:25 am
How is NCC going to look this year?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: True Basketball Fan on October 02, 2005, 09:46:52 am
They should be better this year, as they have basically have everybody returning.  The problem is, I still don't think it is enough to crack the Big 3 (Millikin, Wheaton, Wesleyan).  However, the potential is there to make a nice run towards the top.  It will be interesting.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: True Basketball Fan on October 06, 2005, 12:16:37 am
I know that Tinkoff has been struggling with injuries this past year.  If she is not healthy this year, then that would definitely change the fortune of NC this season, probably keeping them from the CCIW tourney.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: True Basketball Fan on November 06, 2005, 10:59:19 am
The coaches poll was out a few days ago.

1.  Millikin
2.  Wheaton
3.  IWU
4.  North Central
5.  Elmhurst
6.  Carthage
7.  Augustana
8.  North Park

No surprises........however, I think Wheaton is going to win the league this year.  I also think there will be 3, maybe 4 teams ranked in the Top 25 this season at some point.  Three teams could get into the NCAA tourney this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 08, 2005, 12:10:29 am
You got the poll wrong, TBF. It's:

1) Millikin - 48 (6)
2) Wheaton - 44 (2)
3) Illinois Wesleyan - 36
4) North Central - 31
5) Elmhurst - 25
6) Carthage - 18
7) North Park - 15
8) Augustana - 7
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 10, 2005, 05:50:43 pm
Saw in the Ann Arbor News today that Emily Hanley from Bloomington has signed with Eastern Michigan, but they gave few details (6'1" PF, 15 ppg and 9rpg as a junior, conference POY).

Can anyone add to this info?  Anyone know if IWU recruited her, or was she clearly going d1 from the get-go?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: regentfan1 on November 16, 2005, 07:17:27 pm
Weaton will be hard pressed to finish 2nd, Rockford had them down by 10 at half the other night. Weaton won by a couple. They were a lot better team last year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on November 21, 2005, 07:52:12 am
I'm sorry, but I don't see Rockford on Wheaton's schedule. Are you drawing conclusions from a scrimmage?

Rockford: The nation's No. 1 preseason scrimmage team!
Title: Re: Rockford
Post by: Fawkes316 on November 21, 2005, 07:56:09 am
Oops, I didn't even read your post closely enough, regentfan. I thought Wheaton had lost. You're drawing conclusions from the winning margin in a scrimmage? In that case, Wheaton has no chance!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Scouser on November 27, 2005, 08:23:36 pm
Congratulations to IWU coach Mia Smith and her Titans on their 80-63 win over a ranked Stevens Point team.  The Titans outrebounded the taller Pointers and countered every attempt at a comeback with tight defense and balanced scoring.  Crystal Dye led the Titans with 18 points.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: True Basketball Fan on December 11, 2005, 11:55:59 am
Millikin, Wheaton, and Elmhurst are mopping up the floor in the non-conference season so far (except for the strange and embarrassing Elmhurst loss to CURF, what the #$%!, and Wheaton's loss to Calvin, which isn't that bad actually).  Looking at all three of there schedules until conference, I see a possible combined record of 31-2, which would be quite impressive.  The only two games that are tough, are Elmhurst vs. Rockford, and Wheaton vs. Stout (if they play). 

I'd like to see the CCIW gain a 3rd team in the Top 25.  With IWU's two losses already, the only option right now is Elmhurst.  The problem is that they have played a cupcake schedule and they have one GLARING loss (at CURF).  Take that loss away and win out the rest of the non-conference, they could possibly creep in there by mid-january.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: wbbfan32 on December 19, 2005, 04:15:57 pm
Man...what's goin on at Millikin?  Actually getting the chance to see this team in the beginning of their season, it seemed like they were going to dominate their pre-conference games.  But they already have two loses:  one to Illinois College and the other to Luther.  I'm sorry, but I've seen this team play hard and well, and I don't know what went wrong.  It is a different team than last year, but those that have stepped in are doing very well:  Lindsay Ippel has already been named a CCIW Player of the Week and is doing well, Christi Blackburn who has recently sat out due to a horrific eye incident is doing well, along with Angela Vollmer who has seemed to cut down on her turnover rate from last season.  Andrea Riebock may not be Audrey Minott, but she has taken over Minott's position well for a sophomore.  It's just a little sad to see this team that has great, young talent (you should check out a jv game...they have a very talented squad of freshmen) pick up two losses so quickly within each other to teams they should/could have beat.  I just hope Coach Kerans knows what she's doing down there in Decatur and that the women step it up.  Hopefully, their break before the San Diego tournament will get them to relax and prepare; that tournament is not a walk in the park and it will be a real test for the Big Blue.  Let's just hope it's a test they can pass...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on December 20, 2005, 08:37:35 pm
wbbfan32 - You got to be kidding.  If you don't think a coach with her credentials knows what she is doing --
http://www.millikin.edu/athletics/wbasketball/coach.asp
-- you need to get off this board
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 20, 2005, 09:10:59 pm
wbbfan32 - You got to be kidding.  If you don't think a coach with her crednentials knows what she is doing --
http://www.millikin.edu/athletics/wbasketball/coach.asp
-- you need to get off this board

Now Iwum, lighten up on the guy!

I'm sure he recognizes her PAST performance (and she HAS only won 10 of the past 12 conference titles - what's up with those other two!), but c'mon - she graduated from Millikin in 1985!  She's probably, like, 42 years old!  She may be losing it like Joe Paterno! ;) ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on December 20, 2005, 11:25:07 pm
Yep, Mr Ypsi and I would bet Lori Kearns could pull a "Paterno" this season too.

Coach Kerans owns a 382-120 mark. In her 19 years she has had 18 winning seasons (11 seasons 20+ wins) and owns a .761 winning percentage. Prior to the 2004-05 season, her winning percentage ranked her 17th nationally among active Division III coaches and 12th in career wins. She owns a 204-39 record in games at Griswold Center.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 24, 2005, 10:04:21 pm
It has to be tough to break in a new starter at point guard when the rest of the team is returning.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 06, 2006, 07:51:04 pm
Good grief - two weeks and NO posts!

I initially predicted Millikin, then Wheaton, then IWU.  Has the success of Wheaton and Elmhurst, and the relatively lack-luster performances of Millikin and IWU changed that scenario?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: wbbfan32 on January 07, 2006, 11:33:42 am
I DO know of Coach Keran's credentials....it was just an expression.  I know she knows what she's doing at Millikin.  I was just wondering what was happening with the team.  I mean, they've been doing great and then they have some weird loses (weird because they were predicted to beat those teams).  I am in NO WAY commenting on Coach Keran's lack of ability to coach these girls; like I said, I know her stats and records and I know players that have played for her and she is a great coach.  I was just commenting on how the team seems to be hot and cold at very difficult times so far this season.  That's all...

As for the conference title, I think it will be a close one.  I'm picking Wheaton or Millikin for the top; but that all depends on how they handle their first conference game today (MU vs. NP).  If the Millikin I'm used to watching shows up, then I will choose MU or Wheaton for the top.  If not...it's going to be a rough and very surprising season to watch.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 07, 2006, 06:50:55 pm
North Park 65, Millikin 55

Evie Peterson, 19 pts
Anna Mueller, 15 pts
Laura Mount, 12 pts, 7 asts, 7 stls
Shandrel Young, 11 pts, 6 rebs
Megan Slattery, 6 rebs

Joanna Conner, 19 pts, 6 rebs
Lindsay Ippel, 15 pts, 6 rebs
Lindsay Koehn, 7 pts, 7 rebs

The "just plain awful" Vikings, as True Basketball Fan dubbed them this fall, raised their CCIW record to 2-0 and their overall record to 7-6 with this home win today over the defending national champions. The Big Blue dropped to 8-4, 0-1 on the season.

The Vikings led almost from wire to wire, with the exception of a brief 2-2 tie at the beginning of the game. The Park opened up an 11-point lead in the first half and completely dominated at both ends, ending the half with a 28-19 lead.

After NPU achieved its biggest lead of the day, 32-20, within the first minute of the second half, Millikin began to chip away. They induced Vikings center Megan Slattery into committing her fourth foul, and began to use their considerable size advantage to full effect by pounding the ball inside to the 6'2" Ippel and 6'1" Conner, in addition to employing an effective full-court press. Ippel knocked down a bunny at the 10:27 mark to cut the NPU lead to a single point at 41-40. But then the Vikings began to demonstrate why seniors are such an invaluable commodity in basketball. Seniors Slattery, Young, and Mount have been through this dozens of times before, and they showed absolutely no panic. After trading baskets for a few minutes, Mount knocked down a trey at the 6:18 mark that extended the lead to 49-44, and the Vikings were off and running. Millikin never got any closer than seven points down the stretch.

The Park kept its composure, solved the Millikin press that had gotten the Big Blue back into the game and began converting easy layups against it, and used those layups to build the lead back up. In fact, NPU was so dominant from that point on that they would've salted the game away even earlier than they did if they had made their FTs; the Park went a humdrum 14-22 from the charity stripe in the second half.

Millikin looked surprisingly tentative. Slattery played the last eleven minutes of the ballgame without respite with four fouls, and yet the Big Blue did not go at her and attempt to foul her out of the game. When the ball went into Ippel or Conner in the post, it seemed as though they chose to spin and fade more often than not, rather than take the ball to the hole strong against Slattery. By the final few minutes of the game, they were rushing their inside shots and making frustration fouls when NPU would get the defensive rebound. It wasn't the sort of gut-check performance I would've expected in crunch time from such an outstanding duo.

The key to the game was the NPU guard tandem of Mueller and Mount. They completely dominated Millikin's backcourt at both ends of the floor. Mueller quarterbacked a great game, and Mount was everywhere. Her baseline drives and her knack for finding Peterson for open shots were the difference in the game, as well as her ballhawking defense. She played like an All-CCIW first-teamer today.

A tremendous win for NPU, the kind that this team can really build upon.

Not that anybody cares, but the battle for last place will be Augie and NP.  If they split against eachother, there will be a tie for last at 1-13.

... and yet another brilliant prediction by TBF circles around the bowl and disappears. NPU's now 2-0, and if today is any indication they're going to win a bunch more in conference before it's all said and done. TBF, you should consider changing your Posting Up handle to "Reverse Prophet" or something.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 07, 2006, 07:31:35 pm
Greg,

Congratulations to NP for confounding not only TBF but also the conference coaches!

Not to take anything away from NP's win, but clearly something IS amiss in Decatur!  Since everyone is back from the national champion (and pre-season #1) team except the PG, in retrospect perhaps Audrey Minott should be declared last year's CCIW MOP! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 08, 2006, 12:14:38 am
I don't know about that, Chuck, and I don't really care. All that concerns me is the fact that NPU outplayed and defeated a very good team on Saturday afternoon, and they deserve to get credit for it ... and I'm going to see that they do, even if the readership and activity in this room is a little sparse.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Matson on January 08, 2006, 07:41:35 pm
Not as sparse as one might think...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 09, 2006, 04:15:51 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Matson on January 11, 2006, 11:33:14 pm
Great win for Wheaton tonight over Augie.  The CCIW isn't quite as forgiving as those teams out in California!  A nice strong finish avoided the upset.  Nice!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cciwsuburbs on January 12, 2006, 01:08:01 pm
I was at the Wheaton/Augie game on Thursday night and it was very entertaining.  I was very impressed with both teams.  Take a way a two minute stretch in the later part of the second half where Wheaton's freshman got on a roll and scored eight straight points, Augie would have pulled off the upset.  Good work by both teams.   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 17, 2006, 01:47:15 am
I'm still shaking my head over North Park's 64-60 overtime loss on Saturday to #8 Wheaton. It was such a winnable game for the Vikings, but they gave it away at the FT line.

The two teams were as even-steven as two teams can get. There were seventeen ties and nine lead changes in regulation, and the biggest lead either team enjoyed was a mere five-point bulge for NPU midway through the first half. But with five minutes left in regulation and a 50-46 lead in hand, the Vikings had to feel good about their chances. Unfortunately, it was at that point that their free-throw shooting went south in a big way. NPU had gone 15-17 from the charity stripe to that point, but during those last five minutes of regulation they went 5-10 from the line ... and the bricklaying continued into overtime, as the Vikes went 3-6 from the line in the extra session.

You can't blame that on the coaching, or the refs, or give the credit to your opponents, or anything else. When you lose the game at the FT line, you lose it yourselves.

Nevertheless, the Vikes still could've won in regulation, as they had a chance to have the last crack at scoring by holding possession with no shot clock left and the game tied at 55. But Laura Mount dribbled the ball off her foot and out of bounds as she drove the baseline with 5.8 seconds left. Nobody can hold that against her, though, as she was easily the best player on the floor on Saturday afternoon, scoring a game-high 24 points with 6 assists and 4 steals. I think that if you asked Wheaton coach Beth Baker, she'd be the first to tell you that Mount belongs on the All-CCIW team this season.

Give credit to Wheaton for keeping their composure and for having a little more left in the tank in OT than did NPU. But the Vikings left the floor on Saturday disappointed yet well aware that they are quite capable of staying with, and beating, the Wheaties. Baker's team is going to have their hands full on February 4 at King Arena.

I just hope that the Vikes can shake off the tough loss and gear back up against Elmhurst tomorrow night.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 17, 2006, 03:10:12 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 17, 2006, 11:07:23 pm
Laura Mount's tumbling-head-over-heels layup at the buzzer hung on the rim for an eternity before dropping in to give North Park an ugly but thrilling 42-40 victory at home over Elmhurst.

It was a protracted nailbiter, as neither team led by more than two points for the last six minutes and change of the ballgame. Elmhurst had led by nine at the half, 22-13, and enjoyed 11-point leads at 26-15 and 31-20 in the second half, as NPU proved totally incapable of knocking down an open jumper the entire evening. But an airtight defense that held the 'jays to 5-29 from the field in the second half, combined with a huge rebounding effort by Mount, Evie Peterson, and Megan Slattery and a concerted effort to pound the ball inside against the weaker 'jays frontcourt, slowly got the Park back into the game. NPU finally caught up with Elmhurst for the first time at 36-36 with 5:46 left on a Shandrel Young layup.

With the Vikings clinging to a one-point lead, Ashley Stein knocked down an 18-footer to put Elmhurst up, 40-39, with 29 seconds remaining. Mount missed a shot, but Evie Peterson's seventh offensive rebound of the game retained possession for NPU, and she was fouled with nine seconds left. After Elmhurst attempted to ice her with a timeout, Peterson made the first FT but missed the second. Heather Furr rebounded the ball and was fouled by Peterson with six seconds left and the score tied at 40.

Furr must've had her crucial missed front end of a 1-and-1 with 14 seconds left in the Elmhurst loss to Carthage last Tuesday in the back of her mind, because she clanked both ends of the double bonus. Mount rebounded the ball and called a timeout with 4.4 seconds left. After the timeout, she drove through the entire Elmhurst defense and laid the ball up on the rim as she somersaulted out of bounds, barely getting it out of her hands before the buzzer sounded. The rest, as they say, is history.

Mount led all scorers with 19 points, and added nine rebounds. Peterson had a double-double with 12 and 11. Slattery added 10 boards. Aja Terrier was the only Elmhurst player in double figures with 13 points to go with her 8 boards, as Stein garnered nine boards and Furr pulled down eight.

It was a real cardiac-arrest affair, but the bottom line is that NPU won a very sloppy game. They are going to have to seriously ratchet up their level of play, particularly their shooting, if they are to beat Illinois Wesleyan on Saturday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanPride24 on January 18, 2006, 12:21:50 am
Big win today by the Titan Women's Basketball team. They won at #6 Wheaton 63-60.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 18, 2006, 01:46:00 am
Big night for road upsets. Not only did Illinois Wesleyan win at Wheaton, Carthage won at North Central by a score of 63-55. Millikin held serve at home, easily beating Augustana, 70-53.

There's now a three-way tie for first in the CCIW:

Carthage  3    1 
Millikin  3    1 
Wheaton  3    1 
North Park  3    2 
Ill. Wesleyan  3    2 
North Central  2    3 
Elmhurst  1    3 
Augustana  0    5 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 18, 2006, 03:21:48 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 18, 2006, 04:02:30 pm
There's some amazing and uncharacteristic parity at work in the CCIW this season. Elmhurst is currently mired in seventh place, but they've lost their last three games by a grand total of seven points.

I agree with you about Fox and Cooper, Rog. They and senior PG Irene Kim were the Wheaties who impressed me the most. Conversely, I think that the best thing about Jill Trenz's game is that she's so dang tall.

The biggest surprise in last night's game at the crackerbox was the fact that Evie Peterson only went 5-17 from the field. The five shots she made were all layups, mostly of the putback variety, and the twelve shots she missed were almost all baseline jumpers. What's surprising about that is that the midrange game is her specialty. One crucial element that Jack Surridge's NPU teams have lacked in recent years is a forward who can consistently knock down the 8-to-15-footer. They really haven't had one since Julia Kyte (NPU '01). Peterson's only a sophomore, and if she can improve her dribble-drive and develop more aggressiveness in the post she can become a powerful presence in this league.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 19, 2006, 01:36:07 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 23, 2006, 01:39:47 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: wbbfan32 on January 25, 2006, 02:46:26 pm
What's happening at Millikin?!  I will be honest:  I did not think the team would have as great of a year as they did last year...but this?!  I thought they would at least keep their presence in the top of the CCIW and the Top 25.  But after 3 conference losses, I don't know what they're going to do.  With it being so early in conference play, it looks like they might not make it to the conference tournament.  The Wheaton game was, personally, a very big let down.  It should have been so much closer.  If Millikin had cut down their turnovers and picked up a few more rebounds, the game would have been much better.  It was very frustrating to see so many silly mistakes in a game that had so much hype.  Hopefully, the girls can pick it up and do better in the next few conference games; get their feet back under them.

Side note:  Does anyone think that the outcome might have been different if Millikin still had scoring threats in Vollmer and Blackburn?  Two constant scorers not on the team anymore?  In my opinion, I think they would have...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 25, 2006, 03:20:41 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 25, 2006, 07:05:27 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: buf on January 25, 2006, 11:02:42 pm
wbbfan32-

Why aren't Blackburn and Vollmer on the team anymore?  Injured? Quit? Kicked-off?  Just curious!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on January 28, 2006, 11:04:53 pm
Final score from Decatur: North Park 66, Millikin 65.  This victory, coupled with the Viking men's home win over the Big Blue, complete the season sweep of Millikin by both the Viking men's and women's teams.  Congratulations to all the Vikings on this accomplishment!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 29, 2006, 12:35:55 am
Evie Peterson passed out of a double-team to an open Megan Slattery on the weakside block with five seconds left and NPU down by one, and Slattery's layup gave the Park the victory and the sweep. Peterson had a double-double with 20 points and 10 boards, and she also had 5 assists. Laura Mount added 20 points and 6 assists, and Slattery had 14 points and 7 rebounds. Lindsay Ippel led Millikin with 19 points and 8 boards, Joanna Conner chipped in 17 points, and Karin Olson added 15 off the bench.

Wheaton came back from a seven-point halftime deficit and won at North Central, 63-52, behind 17 points from Chase Pouns, 16 from Elizabeth Fox, and a 13-and-7 performance by Jill Trenz. Shay Green led North Central with ten.

Elmhurst smacked Augustana in the Quad Cities, 60-49. Aja Terrier scored 22, and added six rebounds and six steals to the Elmhurst cause. Heather Furr had 13 and 8, and Brittany Bobruk added 10 points. Nancy Marcum had 14 and 9 and Kelly Sikora had 11 and 7 for Augie.

Illinois Wesleyan used a 16-3 run in the second half to pull away from Carthage and win, 68-57, in Bloomington. Heidi Harnisch had 17 points for the Titans, and was joined in double figures by Mallory Heydorn with 16 and Katie Blonn with 14. Blonn also had seven rebounds, and Brianna Baker-Carvell led all players with 15 boards. Erika Buchholtz led the Lady Reds with 16 points, and Jenny Wuest chipped in 13 and 8.

Current CCIW standings:

Wheaton 6-1
Ill. Wesleyan 6-2
North Park 5-3
Carthage 4-3
Elmhurst 3-4
Millikin 3-4
North Central 3-5
Augustana 0-8
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 29, 2006, 01:43:15 am
I think the CCIW women may be EVEN wackier than the men this year.  I think it is safe to say that the Titans were an EVEN more prohibitive favorite in the men's than the Big Blue were in the women's - and each are currently 3 games out of first!  (Well, technically, the Titan men are only 2.5 out, pending tomorrow's game.)

Raise your hands, all those who thought the Titan men would be 4-3, or the Big Blue ladies would be 3-4.  Anyone raising a hand is either a genius or an idiot, and I tend towards the latter.  And I wonder what the coaches are thinking about the Viking women being 5-3?

CCIW = CRAZY.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 29, 2006, 02:12:16 am
And I wonder what the coaches are thinking about the Viking women being 5-3?

I'm willing to bet that there isn't nearly as much gamesmanship going on when the CCIW women's coaches cast their ballots in the preseason poll as there is among their men's team colleagues. Therefore, I'm much more inclined to believe that they were on the up-and-up in predicting NPU to finish seventh -- and that the answer to your question as to what they're thinking about NPU being in third with a 5-3 record is, "We screwed up."   :D

My bias aside, I was actually fairly certain that the Vikings were picked much too low in the preseason poll. This is a senior-dominated team, and prior to their off year last season the same core of players finished fourth and went to the CCIW tourney as sophomores. They do miss the outside shooting of Tiffany Campbell, who chose not to play this season, and they aren't deep (a problem magnified by the loss of their first player off the bench, guard Lauren Martin, to a torn ACL). But it's always an asset to have a group of battle-tested seniors of the caliber of Megan Slattery, Shandrel Young, and Laura Mount.

Plus, I don't think that the other coaches in the league expected sophomore transfer Evie Peterson (12.3 ppg and 6.8 rpg overall, 14.1 ppg and 8.0 rpg in CCIW play) to be such an immediate impact player for the Park.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 30, 2006, 03:12:48 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Matson on January 30, 2006, 11:17:07 pm
Wheaton sure has a bright future.  Trenz was just named CCIW co-player of the week for the 2nd time this year.  Nice work!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: roaring0506 on January 31, 2006, 10:22:07 pm
Wheaton loses tonight, 63-56, to Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 31, 2006, 10:46:21 pm
NPU held off a late rally by Augustana to prevail, 61-58, in the battle of the Vikings at the crackerbox in Chicago. Laura Mount led the Park with 23 points and 7 rebounds, while Shandrel Young added 13 points. Crissy Komperda came off the bench to grab 9 boards in only 13 minutes of action for North Park, and Evie Peterson garnered 8 caroms. Nancy Marcum led Augie with 16 points and 10 rebounds, and Kim Rymer contributed 14 points.

No score yet from Millikin @ Elmhurst, and Illinois Wesleyan @ North Central is scheduled for tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 31, 2006, 11:10:15 pm
Millikin won at Elmhurst, 59-54 in double overtime.

This is as wide open as the league has been in a long, long time.

Updated CCIW standings:

Ill. Wesleyan 6-2
Wheaton 6-2
North Park 6-3
Carthage 5-3
Millikin 4-4
Elmhurst 3-5
North Central 3-5
Augustana 0-9

WEDNESDAY:
Ill. Wesleyan @ North Central

SATURDAY:
Augustana @ Carthage
Elmhurst @ Ill. Wesleyan
Millikin @ North Central
North Park @ Wheaton
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 01, 2006, 01:41:38 am
Millikin won at Elmhurst, 59-54 in double overtime.

This is as wide open as the league has been in a long, long time.


You've certainly got that right!  What a wacky year!

With a freshman at Wheaton being MOP, then a freshman at Millikin emerging as a star in the national tourney, I figured we were in for AT LEAST 3 more years of (usually) everyone else fighting for third.  (I tallied it up a few months ago, but can't find the sheet and am too lazy to do it again, but I seem to recall that in the last 12 years, Millikin had won or shared the title 10 times, and Wheaton had been in the top two 7 or 8 times.)

I think it is obvious that Millikin has somehow slipped this year, but I hope that the parity is MAINLY that the conference has risen, rather than the 'big two' have fallen.  I'd love to see the CCIW women reach the level of national acclaim that the men have attained.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: pizzzaman on February 01, 2006, 07:34:23 pm
National champs deserve respect, but 30 freethrows for Millikin and 3 for Elmhurst.....
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 01, 2006, 09:52:02 pm
Illinois Wesleyan won at North Central, 77-60, so the Titans now have a half-game lead on Wheaton in the win column.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanPride24 on February 02, 2006, 12:02:21 am
I believe the Titans beat North Central 70-66 in OT. They are now on a 6-game winning streak to move into first place. This is very impressive. But what makes it even more remarkable is that they have done it without starters Crystal Dye and Amanda Glerum and two freshmen in the starting lineup. Freshman starter Claire Sheehan, as well as senior Heidi Harnisch, had 22 points tonight against NCC.

It's almost shocking that the IWU team in first place in the CCIW is the women and not the men. Hopefully, they will both be playing in the postseason.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 02, 2006, 12:39:42 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 02, 2006, 06:45:27 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 03, 2006, 09:46:47 pm
We will have the Illinois Wesleyan vs Elmhurst game from the Shirk Center on WJBC2.com tomorrow...

http://www.wjbc2.com/

We'll be on the air at 5:05 for the 5:15 tip.

Ill. Wesleyan  7-2
Wheaton 6-2
North Park 6-3
Carthage 5-3
Millikin 4-4
Elmhurst 3-5
North Central 3-6
Augustana 0-9

February 4 
North Park @ Wheaton, 7:30 p.m. 
Elmhurst @ Ill. Wesleyan, 5:15 p.m. 
Augustana @ Carthage, 2 p.m. 
Millikin @ North Central, 2 p.m. 

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ecwhoops on February 06, 2006, 11:35:16 am
How about it I have lived long enough to finally see EC win in Bloomington.Can't remember last time that happened.Still waiting for the mens team to win in Bloomington.Sounds like this could be a great finish to end to get into final 4 for the tourney.A lot of possiblities this week could change the conference standings.All and all more good hoops to follow.It is a tougher conference thenever that I can rememeber. Good luck to all the teams in the CCIW.Just would like to able to see more games.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 06, 2006, 03:11:25 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 07, 2006, 11:13:05 pm
NPU bounced back from its lackluster effort on Saturday at Wheaton, registering a workmanlike 57-49 home win over North Central this evening.

The Vikings led from wire to wire, as they jumped out to a 10-0 lead out of the gate. As has been their m.o. this season, however, they proved unable to hold the double-digit lead, as the Cards went on a 10-2 run of their own to eliminate the threat of a blowout. NPU slowly opened their lead back up, and went into the locker room up by nine at 28-19.

In the second half, the Cards cut the lead to five a couple of times at 15:07 and 13:32, but a big trey by Bethany Conrad at 8:40 got the Viking lead back up to ten at 44-34, and the Park got their biggest lead of the game, twelve points, at 6:58 (48-36) and 5:48 (50-38) on two FTs and a left-baseline layup, respectively, by Laura Mount. At that point, however, North Park tightened up on offense and the Cardinals began pushing the ball inside against NPU's foul-plagued frontcourt. North Central ran off ten straight points, bringing it to a 50-48 nailbiter at the 1:50 mark on a Lashawndra Brown layup.

NPU then got the biggest play of the game, a successful bank shot by Megan Slattery from the right block that also drew a foul from NCC's Jennifer Norris. After Slattery completed the three-point play, the Vikings pulled away in the final minute with a strong performance at the FT line, where they went 15-16 for the night (North Central almost matched them, going 14-16 from the charity stripe).

Megan Slattery and Shandrel Young had 15 points apiece for the Park, with Slattery contributing 5 rebounds and Young going a perfect 8-8 from the FT line. Laura Mount had 14 points, 5 rebounds, and 7 steals, and Evie Peterson added 5 rebounds. Jennifer Norris was the only Cardinal in double figures with 10 points, and she also led North Central with 5 rebounds.

Elmhurst was the only other CCIW team to hold serve on their home court tonight, as the 'jays handled Carthage, 63-51. Wheaton defeated Augustana in Rock Island, 59-43; and Illinois Wesleyan held off Millikin, 72-62, in Decatur.

CURRENT STANDINGS:
Wheaton 8-2
Ill. Wesleyan 8-3
North Park 7-4
Carthage 6-4
Elmhurst 5-5
Millikin 4-6
North Central 4-7
Augustana 0-11

SATURDAY'S GAMES:
Millikin @ Augustana
North Central @ Carthage
North Park @ Elmhurst
Wheaton @ Ill. Wesleyan
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: wbbfan32 on February 07, 2006, 11:50:44 pm
wbbfan32-

Why aren't Blackburn and Vollmer on the team anymore?  Injured? Quit? Kicked-off?  Just curious!!!


Sorry I haven't gotten back to this sooner, I've been busy.

I do not want to say much, but I do know that both Blackburn and Vollmer left the team.  They weren't injured or sick.  I think it might be a little obvious if anyone looks at the box scores from their Freshman year to the San Fran Tourney.  Their playing time went down each year, yet their numbers went up.  No one can say that they have gotten worse...they got better.  I guess it just wasn't recognized in time.  You can't overlook people and expect them to be there.  (Just another little fact: Anyone notice how the roster for MU has a lack of upperclassmen other than the seniors?  Since it's hard to know the original roster since it's always changing, I can't really tell.  But, I do know that there have been recent modifications)

Other news:  Millikin lost to IWU tonight by at least 10 points.  Someone tell me how your top player has about 27 points (almost half of the teams points) and yet the next highest scorer on the team has about 7 points?  Your top player can't do it all.  She can only give enough heart and soul for herself...she can't play for more than one person at a time!!  When MU started this season, I did have my doubts about how well the leadership was going to be this year, but I did not see this.  There seems to be no leadership out on that court and more selfish playing than I have ever seen.  Turnovers seem to happen more often than assists and rebounds put together at times.  I want to point out that they have only lost ONE STARTING player from the National Championship team.  Obviously, there are still four starters from that National Champ team.....so if it's not talent that's missing, it's leadership.  I'm not afraid to state that opinion now and anyone who has seen an MU game can see by just watching everyone on the court that it seems leadership is missing.  I have witnessed players fighting (more like yelling) at each other on the floor; leaders can't do that.  I am an MU fan, but this is just getting pretty sick to watch.

It has been an interesting CCIW this year, that's for sure.  I'm just sad that Augie isn't getting a better chance; it seems like everyone else is.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 08, 2006, 11:40:43 am
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Post by: buf on February 08, 2006, 04:59:55 pm
wbbfan 32-

Its too bad that has happened to Millikin, I'm a bit surprised.  From watching the MU at UWEC game last year, it seemed that the coach had a great attitude, and instead of yelling at officials, she was joking around with them.  However, one thing I have noticed looking at boxscores throughout the past couple seasons is that she doesn't go to deep on her bench.  Obviously a problem for those who wish to play more.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 11, 2006, 12:13:29 am
Who'd a thunk it - with four games still to be played, defending national champion (and consensus pick for #1) Millikin is mathematically eliminated.  (Of course, they are not yet eliminated from the tourney, and COULD still make the national tourney, but...)

Lori Kearns is such a good coach that I suspect this will go down as one of those inexplicable glitches (like when they finished sixth a few years ago in the midst of a run of 10 titles in 12 years), rather than any sort of true downfall. 

I'm guessing that Millikin will be right there on (or near) the top next year (and this is not discounting the possibility they may still win the tourney THIS year).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 11, 2006, 10:38:11 am
Interesting thing is that was the freshman year of these Millikin seniors. Coach Kerans recruited a class of freshman who finished out of the tourney their freshman year, though most of them got a year of starting experience. The next year they won the conference and the following year they won the National Championship. Now it looks like they may not make the tournament. A weird bookend to a very successful career for a number of very talented players.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: wheatonc on February 11, 2006, 04:46:20 pm
Final:

Wheaton 63
Illinois Wesleyan 49


A great defensive effort by the Thunder.  Jill Trenz had a huge offensive effort.  Wheaton is in 1st place with three games remaining.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 12, 2006, 06:53:18 pm
Wheatonc-Trenz played a very good game, but it was really Fox who carried Wheaton when it mattered. She was huge in the first half when Wheaton started off slow. She hit a couple of big threes with the shot clock expiring and rebounded very well.

She averaged 16.5 points, 8 rebounds and 3.5 assists this week and has to be a top candidate for CCIW Player of the Week honors, and maybe even D3hoops Team of the Week (would join Trenz from a couple of weeks ago.) Over the last five games she is averaging 16 points and 7.6 rebounds.

By the way, IWU had a couple of threes rim out that could have narrowed the lead in the second half. One of Heydorn's was so far into the cylinder that I don't know how it managed to come back out, even though I saw it with my own eyes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 13, 2006, 02:13:07 pm
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Post by: wbbfan32 on February 15, 2006, 12:30:28 am
BIG upset tonight up at Wheaton.
Big Blue 69
Wheaton Thunder 67
in OT

I didn't get a chance to see the game, but Lindsay Ippel (my pick as player of the year, in my opinion) led the team with 26 points.  She also led the game with those 26.  She was 16 of 18 from the FT line and hit 2 with one second left to win the game.  I didn't catch much else because I'm surrounded more by MU enthusiasts and barely got a chance to check the box score, but I'm sure it was a great match up.  I just want to get out my opinion, though, that Millikin wouldn't have this lucky chance if they did not have Lindsay Ippel.  I really do believe she is the reason that Millikin has pulled out the wins they have.  But then again I have to say, one person can't play for more than one person.  Anyway, that's my opinion for the night.  Someone that was at the game tonight, how was it?  Was it as close and exciting as I think it was?

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 15, 2006, 01:16:52 am
North Park held Carthage scoreless for nine minutes in the second half, sparking a come-from-behind rally for the Vikings that helped them register a must-win against the Lady Reds in Kenosha tonight, 65-56. Laura Mount led all scorers with 17 points, topping four NPU players in double figures. Evie Peterson had 16 points and 7 rebounds, Megan Slattery had 12 and 6, and Shandrel Young added 11 and 8. Shana Lieberman led the Lady Reds with 16 points, while Carlie Janowiak added 13 and Katie Jarger chipped in 10. The win clinches a CCIW tournament berth for NPU, since the Vikings have swept the two fifth-place teams, Millikin and Carthage.

NPU was joined by two other road teams in the winner's circle in the CCIW tonight. As noted above, Millikin nipped Wheaton in OT in the western suburbs this evening, 69-67. Lindsay Ippel, who as noted hit the two game-winning FTs with a second left in the extra session, led all scorers with 26 points and added 8 boards to the Big Blue cause. Joanna Conner had 17 points and 9 caroms, Lindsay Koehn added 11 points and 9 boards, and Laura Zimmerman had 8 points and 10 rebounds. Elizabeth Fox had a great game for the hosts, with 24 points and 9 rebounds. Jill Trenz had 12 points and 11 rebounds, Wendy Woudenberg added 11 points, and Brittany Cooper chipped in 10 points and 9 rebounds.

Illinois Wesleyan was the only CCIW team to hold serve at home this evening, as the Titans steamrolled over Augustana, 81-53, in Bloomington. All five Titans starters scored in double figures, led by Heidi Harnisch with 23 points and 5 boards. Mallory Heydorn added 18 points, Claire Sheehan had 15 and 5, Val Fleishman had 12 and 7, and Katie Blonn had 10 and 6. Augie was led by Megan Skahill with 13 points and 7 rebounds, and Kelly Sikora also scored 13. Nancy Marcum had 11 and 6.

Elmhurst remained the hottest team in the league, knocking off North Central in the airplane hangar in Naperville, 72-65. Aja Terrier led the Bluejays with 19 points and Heather Furr added 15. The Redbirds were led by Brianna Parra with 14. Two Cardinals seniors notched double-doubles in the losing cause, Meghan Young with 13 and 10 and Jenni Norris with 10 and 10.

CURRENT STANDINGS:
Wheaton 9-3
Ill. Wesleyan 9-4
North Park 8-5
Elmhurst 7-5
Millikin 6-6
Carthage 6-6
North Central 5-8
Augustana 0-13

SATURDAY'S GAMES:
North Central @ Augustana
Carthage @ Millikin
Wheaton @ Elmhurst
Ill. Wesleyan @ North Park

MONDAY'S GAMES:
Wheaton @ Carthage
Elmhurst @ Millikin
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 15, 2006, 02:35:26 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 17, 2006, 04:42:36 am
Home court has turned out to be a curse for the CCIW this season. Visitors actually enjoy a 26-24 advantage in conference play going into the final six games of the regular season. The curse holds true for the top teams as well as the bottom teams; Wheaton's only 4-3 in CCIW play in King Arena, and Illinois Wesleyan's 3-4 in Shirk Center. Only NPU (5-1) and Elmhurst (4-2) have done well at defending their home floors.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 17, 2006, 05:34:35 am
I'm trying to sort through the possibilities for winning the CCIW title and for hosting the conference tournament. It's incredibly complicated. Let's see if I've gotten it right:

* Wheaton, Illinois Wesleyan, and North Park have all clinched CCIW tournament berths. The fourth and final berth will go to Elmhurst, Carthage, or Millikin, and we most likely will not know which of the three will get it until Tuesday's pair of games is completed.

* If Wheaton wins its final two games @ Elmhurst and @ Carthage, the Wheaties win the CCIW title outright, and the tourney will be held at King Arena.

* If Wheaton splits its final two games, and Illinois Wesleyan loses its finale @ North Park on Saturday, Wheaton wins the CCIW title outright and hosts the tourney.

* If Wheaton loses both of its remaining games, and Illinois Wesleyan beats NPU, Illinois Wesleyan wins the CCIW title outright, and the conference tourney will be held in Bloomington.

* If Wheaton loses both of its remaining games, NPU beats Illinois Wesleyan, and Millikin beats visiting Elmhurst next Tuesday, then the league has tri-champions: Wheaton, Illinois Wesleyan, and NPU. In that case, Wheaton gets to host the tourney by virtue of the head-to-head records between the three champs: Wheaton 3-1, Illinois Wesleyan 2-2, and NPU 1-3.

* If Wheaton loses both of its remaining games, NPU beats Illinois Wesleyan, and Elmhurst beats Millikin, then the league has a four-way tie for the title: Wheaton, Illinois Wesleyan, NPU, and Elmhurst would all finish with 9-5 records. Those four teams would, naturally, constitute the tournament field. Again, Wheaton would get to host the tourney by virtue of collective head-to-head records: Wheaton 4-2, Illinois Wesleyan 3-3, Elmhurst 3-3, and NPU 2-4.

* If Wheaton splits its remaining games, and Illinois Wesleyan beats NPU, then Wheaton and Illinois Wesleyan are co-champs. Deciding which of the two would host the tourney is where it gets complicated in terms of tiebreakers. Both teams would be 2-0 against NPU and 1-1 against Millikin. But right now Wheaton is 1-0 against Elmhurst, and Illinois Wesleyan is 1-1 against Elmhurst. Wheaton is currently 0-1 against Carthage, and Illinois Wesleyan is 2-0 against Carthage. Therefore, let's examine all three permutations of this particular co-champion scenario; Carthage ahead of Elmhurst, a tie between the two, and Elmhurst ahead of Carthage:

-- If Carthage finishes ahead of Elmhurst, Illinois Wesleyan wins the tiebreaker and the right to host the tourney.

-- If Wheaton beats Elmhurst, Illinois Wesleyan beats NPU, Carthage beats Millikin, Carthage beats Wheaton, and Elmhurst beats Millikin, then NPU, Elmhurst, and Carthage finish in an 8-6 tie for third place. NPU is already in the tourney by virtue of having swept Carthage. That NPU sweep of the Lady Reds also propels Elmhurst into the tourney as the fourth team, and Wheaton's sweep of the Bluejays would give them the right to host the tourney.

-- If Elmhurst beats Wheaton, Illinois Wesleyan beats NPU, and Millikin loses either one of their two remaining games, Elmhurst is automatically the third seed and NPU is automatically the fourth seed no matter what else happens. That's because Elmhurst would've split with each of the co-champs, while NPU would've been swept by each of them, guaranteeing that Elmhurst gets seeded ahead of the Vikings if both wind up 8-6 (if Elmhurst finishes 9-5, the point is moot). NPU has swept both Carthage and Millikin, so the Vikings are safely in the tourney even if they end up in a tie for fourth with the Lady Reds or the Big Blue. If Wheaton then beats Carthage to set up the co-champ scenario with Illinois Wesleyan, the tiebreaker again devolves to Carthage and to the tourney thus being held at Shirk.

I think that covers all the possible outcomes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 17, 2006, 08:37:01 am
Sager, I agree with most of what you are saying, but I think there is at least one more scenario.

If Wheaton loses to Elmhurst and beats Carthage, and Illinois Wesleyan beats North Park, they finish in a 10-4 tie.  If Millikin beats Carthage, North Central beats Augie, then they finish in a 6-8 tie for sixth place. Wheaton and Illinois Wesleyan would have equivalent records against North Park (2-0), Millikin 1-1, and Elmhurst 1-1. No advantage there. Then Wheaton would be a combined 3-1 against North Central and Carthage. Illinois Wesleyan would also be 3-1. They both swept Augie. Wheaton would lose the tiebreaker on road record in conference (assuming the loss to Elmhurst.)

-- If Carthage finishes ahead of Elmhurst, Illinois Wesleyan wins the tiebreaker and the right to host the tourney.

-- If Wheaton beats Elmhurst, Illinois Wesleyan beats NPU, Carthage beats Millikin, Carthage beats Wheaton, and Elmhurst beats Millikin, then NPU, Elmhurst, and Carthage finish in an 8-6 tie for third place. NPU is already in the tourney by virtue of having swept Carthage. That NPU sweep of the Lady Reds also propels Elmhurst into the tourney as the fourth team, and Wheaton's sweep of the Bluejays would give them the right to host the tourney.


Also, if Wheaton beats Elmhurst, and loses to Carthage, Illinois Wesleyan beats North Park, Carthage beats Millikin, then Wheaton doesn't get to host. Elmhurst would have to beat Millikin to give Wheaton a chance. But even so, Wheaton's combined 4-2 against the third place tie, wouldn't be as good as Illinois Wesleyan's 5-1. It's my understanding that they break the first place tie by virtue of the combined head-to-head record, so it wouldn't matter that Elmhurst holds the tiebreaker over Carthage.

There are a lot of crazy scenarios, clearly. The only sure thing is that if Illinois Wesleyan loses they can't host. Wheaton must win both games to control their own destiny, otherwise they need help from Millikin against Carthage. 

Maybe we should just wait until tomorrow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bilk on February 17, 2006, 10:32:03 am
Is there a forum that discusses CCIW sports not found on D3sports.com?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 17, 2006, 06:29:25 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 17, 2006, 08:25:04 pm
Greg and Skafgas,

Thanks for the conference tourney analysis!  Analyzing all the possible scenarios is my JOB, but today is a day off, and you made my head hurt.

Looking ahead to the national tourney, who are the potential pool Cs?  With only 3 losses and the 34th highest QOWI, I'd say Wheaton is a lock, barring a 3-game losing streak.  IWU is at a quite respectable 46th in QOWI, but already has 6 losses; if they don't get (at least) a 7th they would be the AQ!  IF IWU beats NP and loses in the title game, I'm pretty confident they're in - otherwise it's the dreaded 'bubble'.

I can't see any other C candidates: Millikin is 86th in QOWI and already has 7 losses; NPU is 109th in QOWI and already has 8 losses; Elmhurst did not even make the list of 120 top QOWIs.

I'm guessing the CCIW gets two bids only if someone other than Wheaton wins the conference tourney, or Wheaton wins over IWU in the final.  (A slim hope for THREE teams: Wheaton wins out but loses first round of tourney, IWU wins out, but loses title game of tourney; someone else wins tourney.)

Comments?
Title: Saturday's Games
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 17, 2006, 08:30:52 pm
Some very important games tomorrow as has been mentioned above. Hopefully, Wheaton and Illinois Wesleyan can win their remaining games, so that whichever team doesn't win the tournament they can still have a good chance at the at-large bid. Both were ranked in the top 6 in the Region last week, and it would be nice to get in multiple teams with the expanded format. I know that in soccer the CCIW women got 3 teams in and men got two teams in the expanded tourney this year.

On a related note, why does the NCAA only release rankings for teams from 1-6 in each region? That would make sense last year when there were only 50 or so teams, but with a 63 team tournament it seems a little strange to only rank a combined 48 teams in the eight regions. I know that is asking for a little more common sense than should be expected of the NCAA, but really ranking at least 64 teams would seem reasonable to me.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 17, 2006, 08:46:26 pm
Yipsi, I liked the way you spelled my name. With a last name like Kafkas I encounter a lot of weird pronunciations and spellings, but I hadn't seen Kafgas before.   :) 

But back to basketball, yeah I don't think we can expect more than 2 teams. Even though the Wisconsin teams haven't been ranked, they have to get some respect, though the CCIW did pretty good this year against the WIAC.  Also, Carroll and Lawrence have good records and one of them will be a Pool C candidate from the Central. There are just too many good teams with strong QoWIs above Millikin or Elmhurst. North Park beat OshKosh who will probably get in (either A or C), but 11 losses in region is way too many.

I think the conference made great strides this year. I think in a couple of years there will be the possibility of getting three teams in for the first time since Millikin, Wheaton, Illinois Wesleyan and Carthage all made it in 1996.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 17, 2006, 09:14:39 pm
skafkas,

Sorry about the name - I assure you that was an honest error, not a commentary on your posts! ;) ;D

(But, then, you misspelled my name in return - retribution or error: Enquiring minds (now there's an oxymoron!) want to know? ;))
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 17, 2006, 09:17:19 pm
O.K. we're even, Mr. Ypsi. It was an accident on my part as well, but skafgas gave me a good chuckle.
Title: Re: Wheaton Over Elmhurst
Post by: wheatonc on February 18, 2006, 05:22:30 pm
Wheaton clinched at least a tie for the CCIW regular season championship with a 15 point win over Elmhurst this afternoon.  Both teams struggled with their shooting, but Wheaton's bench helped them hold Elmhurst to no field goals in the last several minutes of the game. 
Title: Re: IWU Over North Park
Post by: wheatonc on February 18, 2006, 05:29:18 pm
According to the North Park website, Illinois Wesleyan defeated North Park this afternoon, 63-49.  So Wheaton needs to defeat Carthage on Tuesday to win the regular season conference championship outright.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 18, 2006, 05:36:26 pm
Wheatonc-You're right. If Carthage beats Wheaton, then Wheaton can't win the tiebreaker against IWU. Their only hope in a tiebreaker with Illinois Wesleyan was that Wesleyan would lose to North Park today, or that Carthage would finish behind Elmhurst in the standings. Both those things became impossible today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 18, 2006, 05:41:36 pm
Here are the current standings

Wheaton 10-3
Illinois Wesleyan 10-4
North Park 8-6
Elmhurst 7-6
Carthage 7-6
Millikin 6-6
North Central 6-8
Augustana 0-14

Wheaton 57, Elmhurst 42
Carthage 63, Millikin 48
Illinois Wesleyan 63, North Park 49
North Central 61, Augustana 57
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: wheatonc on February 18, 2006, 05:54:08 pm
Wheaton has won all of their conference road games this year and have a 4-3 conference home record.  All Thunder fans are hoping that they stay unbeaten on the road Tuesday!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 18, 2006, 06:42:44 pm
I deleted a few posts, which seem to be outdated, because of an interpretation by the league. But in the end nothing changes in the women's end of the bracket (I think, but I really don't know. Once you start assuming things that aren't actually in the rules, you can do pretty much whatever you want.)

In the end, though, a very complicated situation is still very simple:

Wheaton wins they host, lose we all go to Bloomington.

Elmhurst wins they're in, regardless of what Carthage does.

Elmhurst loses Carthage is in, regardless of what Carthage does.

Wheaton and Elmhurst control their own destiny.

Millikin, sorry you're out.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 18, 2006, 10:47:01 pm
Okay, there is no support for this in the Women's Basketball, or quite frankly, the Men's Basketball Handbooks, but it appears that the conference is planning to use an assumption not written in the rules to break ties.

My understanding is that they are planning to decide each place separately, sequentially and distinctly. Meaning multiple team ties will be broken by separate applications of the tiebreakers. While this may seem logical, it is stated nowhere in the handbook.

The tiebreaking system is a relic of an age gone by, when there wasn't a conference tournament, and it wasn't necessary to break ties in third or fourth place. It's time that both sets of coaches clarify the rules and take the judgement calls out of the hands of the conference office.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 18, 2006, 11:00:26 pm
Under this "official" procedure the new scenarios look like this:

No change to the scenario if Wheaton beats Carthage: Elmhurst wins there in, Elmhurst loses then Carthage is in.

If Wheaton loses to Carthage and Elmhurst beats Millikin, here's where the interpretation comes in: Since Illinois Wesleyan and Wheaton are trying to break a first place tie between two teams, then I think (but who knows now) that we can follow the letter of the rules. In which, case Illinois Wesleyan is first because of their composite records against the teams tied for third place (the rules specifically mention: teams). Now North Park wins the third place tiebreak with a better record against Elmhurst and Carthage head-to-head.

Now the tiebreaker starts over again. My understanding is that Illinois Wesleyan is now considered the first place team, Wheaton second place, and North Park third. For fourth place, Elmhurst and Carthage split head-to-head. The next tiebreaker is record against the highest team above the tie. Under this interpretation that team is Illinois Wesleyan, and Elmhurst split with them and Carthage was swept. So nothing changes here either.

The fourth scenario doesn't change either. Long story short, Wheaton still needs to win in order to host and Elmhurst still needs to win to get in.

Hopefully, this confusion and I am sure some controversy will convince the coaches to amend the tiebreaker process to make it more clear.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 18, 2006, 11:38:50 pm
The CCIW website has listed scenarios on their website. http://www.cciw.org/winter_bball_w/2006_wbbchamp_page.php The three they have listed agree with mine, but apparently they don't think that it is possible for Carthage to beat Wheaton and Elmhurst to beat Millikin, because it isn't listed.

There are giant flaws in these tiebreakers. It's time for a new system. It shouldn't come down to interpretation. It should be written in plain, straightfoward language.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 19, 2006, 02:47:53 am
Now the tiebreaker starts over again.

This is how most conferences do it.

Otherwise, here's what you end up with: Say you have three teams tied for a spot, A, B, and C. A is 3-1 against the group, B is 2-2 and C is 1-3. A gets slotted in and breaks out of the tie.

Now you have just B and C. If you use the previous records above, now the games between A and C are being used to determine a tie between B and C. A two-way tie between B and C should first use just games between those two teams.

This discussion came up yesterday on the men's board. I brought it to the league's attention and perhaps the new scenarios are a result of the more logical tiebreaking system.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 19, 2006, 09:26:14 am
Pat, I don't disagree with your logic at all. In fact, I think that it would make a lot more sense if that is what the rules stated, but the truth is that they don't. It doesn't seem right to me for there to be some hidden interpretation that is conjured up a week before the tournament. It was created without consulting coaches or athletic directors, and it was presented as the plain face meaning of the tiebreaker. Well, it isn't, though I am willing to admit that maybe it should be.

It still leaves the question of whether you consider a first place tie to be decided, when determining lower placed ties. In other words, in the fourth scenario is Illinois Wesleyan considered the sole first place team, or are they still tied with Wheaton for purposes of the tiebreaker. The rules are completely silent on this. My issue is that this decision will be made completely in the consideration of commissioner, and the team that loses out will have little or no redress to the rules. It seems very arbitrary to me, and it shouldn't be the way these things are decided.

There are flaws in this way of doing it as well. If Illinois Wesleyan becomes the top seed by virtue of the three way tie for third place, then Elmhurst gets the tiebreaker for fourth (under one interpretation) because of their record against Illinois Wesleyan. But now that Elmhurst is fourth, you have to ask yourself why isn't Wheaton first, since  they had a better record against Elmhurst? But if you move Wheaton up, because Elmhurst is in fourth, now Carthage deserves to be in fourth place, because of their better record against Wheaton.

At some point you have to have arbitrary decisions made like this, but it is my contention that they should be made with as much consultation of the rules, and  consistency as possible.  I appreciate you pointing out these issues, I just wish that it had happened sooner, so a fair and consistent system could have been worked out. Hopefully, it will be this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 20, 2006, 02:01:54 pm
Ok, so the final scenario is posted on the CCIW website. If Elmhurst beats Millikin and Carthage beats Wheaton, then Illinois Wesleyan hosts and Carthage is in over Elmhurst. Apparently, for the purposes of the fourth place tiebreaker, Wheaton and Illinois Wesleyan are still considered to be tied.

I have been negative about what I see as an arbitrary interpretation of the rules, but in the end I think this is the closest to what the rules state as possible.  I am reasonably satisfied with the decision that was reached, but I do hope that the tiebreaking procedure is more clearly stated in the future.

Let's play the games, so we can be done with all this junk!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 21, 2006, 11:39:32 am
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 21, 2006, 02:19:11 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: wheatonc on February 21, 2006, 10:10:55 pm
Wheaton wins the regular season CCIW championship outright for the first time since 1999.  The Thunder will host the conference tournament this weekend.  #2 IWU will play #3 North Park and Wheaton will play #4 Carthage on Friday.  The championship game will be played on Saturday afternoon.  Congrats to the Thunder!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 21, 2006, 10:48:14 pm
Wheaton 53, Carthage 42
Millikin 76, Elmhurst 67

FRIDAY'S SEMIFINALS, @ WHEATON:
North Park vs. Illinois Wesleyan, 6 pm
Carthage @ Wheaton, 8 pm

SATURDAY'S FINALS, @ WHEATON:
Vikings or Titans vs. Lady Reds or Thunder, 2 pm


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Matson on February 22, 2006, 02:11:11 pm
Should be some good action on Friday in Wheaton.  North Park could be playing Wheaton for yet another CCIW AQ on Saturday!  Let the rivalry continue!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 22, 2006, 07:19:19 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 23, 2006, 06:31:41 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 24, 2006, 05:00:07 am
I just heard that former Wheaton player Sarah Harris, who is the daughter of Wheaton Men's Head Coach Bill Harris, just got the head coaching job at Grove City College in Pennsylvania. Congratulations, Sarah!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanPride24 on February 24, 2006, 10:01:42 pm
I heard that the Titan women beat North Park 49-46 tonight.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 24, 2006, 11:05:35 pm
Man, what a tough loss for the Park. NPU led almost the entire game, and was up nine at the half. Wesleyan didn't catch the Vikings until there was only 3:30 left in the game, when they tied it up at 44 apiece. After almost two and a half minutes of nail-biting scorelessness, Evie Peterson's jumper put NPU ahead again. The Titans tied it with under a minute left, and then Wesleyan got its first and only lead of the game on a Val Fleischman three-point play with 7.7 seconds left on the clock. Laura Mount's trey attempt at the buzzer was long.

I've never seen a team get snakebit as badly as NPU did in that second half. No fewer than three shots for the Vikings in that second stanza went down into the cylinder, spun around, and popped back out, the last one being a Shandrel Young leaner with under a minute left. In all my years of watching basketball, I've never seen anything like it. The basketball gods were kind to Wesleyan, and pretty darn cruel to the Park.

Since it was their final game, I want to say a hearty thank-you to graduating seniors Megan Slattery and Shandrel Young for four great years of basketball. Both are former All-CCIW players, both end their careers in the all-time top ten in NPU scoring with over 1,100 points apiece, and Young is in the CCIW record books as the conference's all-time single-season and career leader in free throw attempts. They were both terrific players and outstanding students who exemplified the best of North Park University both on and off the court. They will be missed.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 25, 2006, 12:48:44 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 25, 2006, 10:58:34 pm
Wheaton won the conference tournament today, 74-60, over Illinois Wesleyan. The offense carried them today; at one point in the first half they were 8-10 from three point range, I believe.

I don't think it is the end of the road for IWU though. Looking at the Pool C candidates from the region, the only teams with better region winning percentages are Lawrence and Concordia (Wisc.) at .750, and UW-Oshkosh at .708. Illinois Wesleyan's is .696 and they have the best QoWI by far at 9.913, by my calculations. Oshkosh is 9.667, Lawrence 9.65 and Concordia 8.72.

Of course, Pool C is selected on a national basis, but you have to assume that at least two Central region teams will get Pool C bids. My guess would be that Lawrence and Illinois Wesleyan and maybe Oshkosh will be invited.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 25, 2006, 11:04:19 pm
Illinois Wesleyan also holds the common opponents advantage against both teams: Lawrence was 1-1 against Ripon, IWU and Oshkosh were 1-0.  IWU was 1-0 against Stevens Point and Oshkosh was 1-2. Oshkosh lost to North Park and IWU beat them 3 times. Both Oshkosh and IWU beat Fontbonne.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 27, 2006, 09:09:48 am
Wheaton will host Rockford on Friday, and Maryville (Mo.) and Lakeland will play in the first game. Lakeland is in the tournament almost every year, and Maryville was undefeated in the region, including a win over Washington University.  Rockford won 21 games this year, so they are pretty good too.

If Wheaton gets through the regional, there are some big teams waiting in DePauw, Wash U, and Hope and not to mention Calvin who Wheaton lost to earlier this season. But when there are 16 teams left, there is bound to be some serious competition.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 27, 2006, 11:49:35 am
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Title: Wheaton!
Post by: Go Ahead on February 27, 2006, 12:19:42 pm
Go ahead Wheaton College. I am loving way out here in San Diego. Good luck girls.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 27, 2006, 04:04:24 pm
Congrats to NPU's two All-CCIW players, junior Laura Mount and sophomore Evie Peterson. Having both back next season gives Vikings fans hope for a great 2006-07 season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 27, 2006, 07:41:57 pm
Sager- The North Park website lists Laura Mount as a senior. Is it wrong? Does she have a year of eligibility left? She is a great player, I could see her as a contender for player of the year if she does have another season to play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 27, 2006, 08:45:43 pm
Sager- The North Park website lists Laura Mount as a senior. Is it wrong? Does she have a year of eligibility left? She is a great player, I could see her as a contender for player of the year if she does have another season to play.

She has another year of eligibility, and she's coming back.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 28, 2006, 07:15:51 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 01, 2006, 03:04:21 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 02, 2006, 02:57:13 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: diego on March 03, 2006, 10:46:04 am
So whats your thoughts on the Rockford (21-6) @ Wheaton (23-4)??
Title: Steve
Post by: Go Ahead on March 03, 2006, 12:01:09 pm
Steve, 

  This is Megan, remeber the dance at Rachel's wedding, haha!!!! Give me the realistic run-down of how deep Wheaton will go in the tourney. Due to the fact I am not there I have no clue. Hook it up Steve.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 03, 2006, 03:11:58 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 04, 2006, 02:07:57 am
Megan-How are you doing? 

Well, they won tonight, so they are definitely going to the second round. They play Maryville tomorrow, which plays a full court, frenetic style the entire game (or at least they did today.)  I think we have the talent to go pretty far, but there are a lot of good teams left even if they beat Maryville tomorrow. Wash U, Depauw and Hope are all in this bracket, so it isn't an easy road, but I am still hopeful.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 04, 2006, 10:59:11 am
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 05, 2006, 01:01:37 am
Wheaton beat Maryville tonight to advance to the Sectional Semifinal against DePauw, next weekend. The game started slow, but Wheaton used a couple of runs to build a large lead. In the first half they went on a 13-4 run, and in the second half they went on a 22-2 run. Maryville is a good team (they beat WashU), but Wheaton finally played the game (at least second half) that its fans had been waiting for as the whole team put it together at the same time and the result was a huge win.

Judging by Maryville fans' reaction at the game, they blame the refs at least in part. In fact, though, the fouls were pretty close (Maryville 22, Wheaton 20) and Maryville plays a type of basketball that brings with it a lot of fouls. Yes, Wheaton took 33 free throws to Maryville's 13, but they only made 22, and subtract those from Wheaton's total, and you still have a Wheaton victory.

Actually, the game really hinged on turnovers as Wheaton got 30 points off of 26 turnovers. In addition, Wheaton's bench added 26 points.

Wheaton is going to face some serious competition next weekend. They will have to play DePauw, likely at home. DePauw is 27-1, only losing to Wash U. Wash U (25-2) is playing Hope (29-1) who only lost to Wheaton. These are some really formidable teams. Wheaton will have to keep up it's great play on the road, if they are going to win two games to make it to Springfield.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Matson on March 05, 2006, 04:36:56 pm
The women's sectional will be at DePauw this weekend.  Wheaton has a tough one against the hosts, but I think they'll be fine if they shoot like they did last night!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mark_reichert on March 06, 2006, 10:22:57 am
Judging by Maryville fans' reaction at the game, they blame the refs at least in part.

Which is rich given that the refs in the WashU game bent over backwards for them which was a contributing cause to the WashU loss.  They fouled out the only two Bears who were scoring that night.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: sliaccommish on March 06, 2006, 06:37:34 pm
I'm getting a little tired of the complaining by mark_reichert about the officiating in the Maryville-Washington University game. That was two months ago; get over it! Maryville won the game because it played great and Wash U had an off night.

Maryville was ahead by sixteen at the half and led by double figure margins through most of the game. The two best Wash U players fouled out late in the game when they had to foul to try to get the ball back. The officials who worked the game were assigned by the same person who assigns for Wash U, and they have worked many games at Wash U.

It's too bad you, and some of the Maryville fans who were at Wheaton, can't accept the fact that most of the time a game is won or lost because one team was better on that night.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2006, 05:19:09 am
Ahh, see, my response was going to be along the lines of "Do you really deserve to win if only two players are scoring?"

But I like your response too. :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 07, 2006, 06:47:10 am
Looking at DePauw's game against Illinois Wesleyan, DePauw won 72-60. They missed 12 of their 23 free throws so it could have been worse. They also beat Wesleyan with Amanda Glerum, which Wheaton didn't do this year. At the same time Wesleyan only shot 5 free throws, well under their season average of 18 a game. It was the first game of the season, and they started slowly, before going on a run through the conference until Glerum went down.

It looks like Wheaton will have to focus on forwards Liz Bondi and Bridget Bailey, as Wesleyan gave up 46 points in the paint, despite the latter (team's second leading scorer for the season) only playing 8 minutes.

Did anyone see this game, who can talk about DePauw a little?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on March 07, 2006, 10:05:46 am
Ahh, see, my response was going to be along the lines of "Do you really deserve to win if only two players are scoring?"

Isn't that how Wash U. wins some nights anyway?
Check that Wash U. over Manchester stat line. Beehler and Manning combined for 48. The rest of the team combined for 22.

Or the Wash U. over UChicago stat line. Combining for 59 of the teams 87. Don't underestimate the power of fouling out.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mark_reichert on March 07, 2006, 02:29:50 pm
Perhaps I'd be less bothered by it if the fans hadn't been rude most of the game.  If WashU treated opposing fans like that I'd be embarrassed.

And as far as the refs go, I don't care who picked them.  When you have different standards for each team, you are officiating badly that game.  When one team can mug another team but that other team gets called for much less contact, that's wrong.  I know what I saw, and I saw the same thing the first half of the Carroll game and it was just as wrong then.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on March 07, 2006, 04:59:00 pm
The most obvious thing about the carroll game was the travel call on Kelly Manning in comparison to Carroll's numebr five. Carroll's player took a jump stop and a leap after she caught every pass.

But enough about the Bears.

Depauw had trouble guarding the inside play of Rebecca Parker and Danielle Beehler, both decently athletic big girls. However, Depauw crashed hard with 26 offensive rebounds. Thas a real quick summary. Maybe I'll post more of what I remember later.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mark_reichert on March 08, 2006, 11:10:47 am
The most obvious thing about the carroll game was the travel call on Kelly Manning in comparison to Carroll's numebr five. Carroll's player took a jump stop and a leap after she caught every pass.

But enough about the Bears.

Depauw had trouble guarding the inside play of Rebecca Parker and Danielle Beehler, both decently athletic big girls. However, Depauw crashed hard with 26 offensive rebounds. Thas a real quick summary. Maybe I'll post more of what I remember later.

Oh yeah, I was forgetting the constant travelling by her.

Here's the box score for that DePauw-Bears game:

http://bearsports.wustl.edu/womensbball/du-wu.htm

If DePauw had shot better, they would have won.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on March 08, 2006, 02:25:05 pm
The most obvious thing about the carroll game was the travel call on Kelly Manning in comparison to Carroll's numebr five. Carroll's player took a jump stop and a leap after she caught every pass.

But enough about the Bears.

Depauw had trouble guarding the inside play of Rebecca Parker and Danielle Beehler, both decently athletic big girls. However, Depauw crashed hard with 26 offensive rebounds. Thas a real quick summary. Maybe I'll post more of what I remember later.

Oh yeah, I was forgetting the constant travelling by her.

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If DePauw had shot better, they would have won.

well isn't that obvious. that's like saying if they would have scored more points then they would have won?

Parker doesn't travel constantly. She usually maintains her pivot foot, but she is sometimes in the lane for three seconds and it is rarely called. She actually has the nastiest up and under in the UAA, but was in a slight slump most of the conference schedule.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: foul_language on March 08, 2006, 10:40:41 pm
What happened to Millikin this year? Is this the right conference/board for that question and did I spell Millikiin right?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 08, 2006, 11:35:00 pm
You spelled it right the first time.  :)  They graduated their point guard last year, but returned their other four starters. I think there was trouble almost from the beginning. A couple of girls quit, and they never really seemed to play as a team the way they usually do.  They had a lot of talent, but were never really able to put it together consistently.

On the other hand, it's not really a surprise that Wheaton won the conference this year. They were co-champions, and beat Millikin by 17 points last year in Millikin's last lost of the year.

I suspect that Millikin will be back near the top again next year. Lindsey Ippel will be a junior and they have a few good young players. Plus, Lori Kerans is a great recruiter, especially when you consider that she recruited 4 out of 5 starters of last year's National Championship team in one year. In fact, they finished 5th their freshman year with all of them starting, first their sophomore and junior seasons, including a National Championship, and finished their career in fifth place.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 09, 2006, 12:25:21 pm
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Post by: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2006, 06:58:40 pm
D3hoopsNet, under contract from NCAAsports.com, will be broadcasting the entire DePauw sectional. Coverage starts a half-hour before tipoff and includes a preview of all four sectionals, plus in-game "live look-ins" at other sectionals in progress.

Gordon Mann on the call, with Wes Anderson joining for the sectional opener.

http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 13, 2006, 05:49:54 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 14, 2006, 09:17:22 am
Trenz made a hook shot this year.  :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 14, 2006, 09:19:16 am
The great thing about Fox is that you can list her as a forward if you want, but she is as capable of bringing the ball up the floor as anyone on the team. If they can improve their depth at post it would allow Fox to focus even more on the offensive end of the floor, where she really played well this season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 14, 2006, 11:45:38 am
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Post by: RogK on March 14, 2006, 02:00:36 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 14, 2006, 09:04:29 pm
RogK-In my opinion and with apologies to Jill Trenz, I think Fox was the best player on the best team this year in the CCIW. When she played well, Wheaton played well. I think her versatility forced a lot of teams into match up problems. By the way, she was Wheaton's only All-Region selection getting third team honors.

In terms of your 5 of each scenario, I think Fox would have an advantage given her versatility and her conditioning (only Wheaton player averaging over 30 minutes a game). 

As far as Trenz and Cooper go they are very good as well. Trenz has the misfortune of not having another pure post player to split time with. There is no one else to play high-low with or take away double teams. Fox scores inside off of the dribble, not really by posting up. Carwell seemed much more comfortable this year shooting threes, than posting people up.

Last year Wheaton had Wingerter who teams had to respect offensively in the post.  I don't think they have to necessarily recruit a post player, they might have one next year in Whitney Edgecombe. Early in the year she seemed to get pushed around especially rebounding, but she made some really good progress and gave Wheaton positive minutes at the end of the year. That could be what the doctor ordered for Trenz offensively. On the defensive side, Jill is a tremendous post defender who really bothers other teams.

Actually, I think working on shots from the key is probably the best thing for Trenz. Late in the season she seemed more willing to score away from the basket.  That would help open the middle a little more and make teams respect her when she comes up top.

Brittnay Cooper is the gutsiest player I have seen in nine years. She is extremely athletic, but she also works harder than anyone else. She plays hurt and doesn't let it affect her game. She battles for rebounds. One time after she hurt her ankle, she twisted it a little during a game. Coach Baker took her out, and Brittnay sprinted off the floor gritting her teeth, and refusing to limp or stop playing with her usual intensity.

I think Wheaton will miss Irene Kim's defensive intensity. She is so fast and so committed to forcing turnovers it's amazing sometimes. Especially if she turns the ball over, it seems like she always takes it back almost immediately.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CA Mayor on March 15, 2006, 01:03:25 pm
Thanks to everyone who supported Irene over the years. At the end of the DePauw game she was overwhelmed with the emotion that this was her last game, but she overcome quickly and she is looking forward to her graduation and support for the team. She loves everyone in the team and I am glad she won't forget the love and support from you all. I can't ask more from the team. I thank the coach Baker and Madsen. The Wheaton girls are always welcome in my house. They became our extended family. One thing she learned also was communicating at the host court with more noise. Not only doing the defense and playing ball, but also need to learn from the mistakes they are not familiar. As a parent who watched her over the years, I can say Wheaton Thunder is the best team in our family.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 20, 2006, 01:47:00 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: diehardfan on April 03, 2006, 06:42:12 pm
Congrats to Former Wheaton Woman's Basketball player Sarah Harris for landing the head coaching job at Grove City College.

http://www.d3hoops.com/pressreleases.php?release=587
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 04, 2006, 08:03:03 am
At least we won't have to wonder whether or not Sarah Harris will call timeouts after her players dunk.  :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 04, 2006, 12:54:15 pm
This was in Notables eight days ago.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 05, 2006, 02:17:48 am
This was in Notables eight days ago.

I know. It meant that I had to wait eight days for someone to mention Sarah Harris so that I could make my little "timeouts after a dunk" joke.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on April 05, 2006, 01:26:14 pm
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Post by: diehardfan on April 05, 2006, 06:53:32 pm
This was in Notables eight days ago.
I'm supposed to read everything on the sit every day even during the offseason?  ??? I thought this was my time of the year to have a life.  :D ;)

At least we won't have to wonder whether or not Sarah Harris will call timeouts after her players dunk. :D
Or after any time when they are starting any sort of positive run in the right direction at all?  :D Gosh I love Coach Harris.  :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 05, 2006, 07:00:56 pm

Or after any time when they are starting any sort of positive run in the right direction at all?  :D Gosh I love Coach Harris.  :)

Nope, just once or twice a week you might want to check that little Notables box. :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: diehardfan on April 05, 2006, 07:12:25 pm
The on on the front page? That's where I found it....
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 05, 2006, 08:26:56 pm
Upper right-hand corner, Notables, with the last whatever stories. You could also check the press releases, like the one you linked, but of course, those don't always tell the whole story. (Like the Grove City one, which neglects to mention that coaching runs in Sarah Harris' family.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on April 07, 2006, 12:03:30 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 10, 2006, 03:50:12 am
Augustana's one of those schools that's good at almost every sport, so there's no reason why it can't succeed at women's basketball. Indeed, Augie won five CCIW titles during the Diane Schumacher era (including the first-ever CCIW women's title in 1987), which ties it with Wheaton for second place behind Millikin. Augie being Augie, if they're given a halfway-decent coach the Doggies ought to be right back in annual contention within a couple of years.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on September 06, 2006, 01:34:57 pm
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Post by: RogK on September 14, 2006, 03:18:38 pm
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Post by: RogK on September 19, 2006, 03:10:46 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 27, 2006, 07:14:20 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 31, 2006, 05:38:47 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on November 01, 2006, 06:18:07 pm
I would be very surprised, if Wheaton gives up 114 points or even 96. The last time they gave up more than 75 (and that was only once) was in 2003 when they lost to the defending Champion Stevens Point. Wheaton was ninth in the nation last year in scoring defense. I doubt that will change much this season.

Passiales is playing soccer this year, and doing pretty well. Woudenberg is playing golf. They'll miss her defensive intensity off of the bench. But, Wheaton will be much stronger up front this season. With Trenz returning and Edgecombe showing signs of improvement at the end of last season, as well as freshman Carissa Bacon, Wheaton will have a formidable front court. This should free up Fox to play guard more often. She is very athletic, might be one of the best ball handlers on the team and will give teams terrible matchup problems trying to guard her.

Wheaton should be fine at the guard position. They will miss Libby's conditioning and defensive intensity, but they don't need anymore offense. Pouns and Fidelia should be enough offense from the guard position to complement Cooper, Trenz and Fox. What they need off the bench is someone to play defense with intensity and take care of the basketball, since that's what they lost in Libby.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 02, 2006, 11:41:40 am
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Post by: Fawkes316 on November 02, 2006, 09:38:20 pm
Sorry for the confusion.

Anyone notice that Wheaton is #5 in the preseason poll?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 07, 2006, 09:57:01 am
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Post by: Fawkes316 on November 07, 2006, 10:54:52 pm
I haven't seen her play yet, but here is what Coach Baker said about her in the season preview.

“We are excited by Carissa Bacon. She is a little undersized in the pivot position, but she can score around the basket and is a very good rebounder. Hopefully she can continue to develop and by January she will be giving us some key minutes"
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 09, 2006, 11:42:49 am
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on November 14, 2006, 10:08:21 pm
Heard IWU lost a big post player in the pre-season to a knee injury.  :-\
Anyone have any info???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 18, 2006, 04:46:49 pm
NPU started off the year on the right foot, whomping MacMurray, 77-28, in the opening round of Lakeland's tipoff tourney last night. The Vikings play MSOE in the championship game today.

This should be an interesting year for NPU, what with 1,000-point scorers Megan Slattery and Shandrel Young both having graduated. Laura Mount is back, and she has an excellent chance to win all sorts of accolades this year. She'll be the Park's featured player and the leader of a strong backcourt that includes seniors Anna Mueller and Lauren Martin, the latter returning after missing last year to a torn ACL.

Evie Peterson is also back to bolster the frontcourt, and transfers Maggie Butler and Angela Perez should figure prominently in North Park's plans as well. The major problem for the Park this year will probably be the inside game, as Jack Surridge was unable to land a recruit with the size and interior presence to take Slattery's place. He's going to have to rely upon playing a more uptempo game, with better outside shooting (which NPU should get with Martin back) and a more team-oriented rebounding approach, if the Vikings are to return to the CCIW tournament again this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 20, 2006, 01:37:16 am
NPU defeated MSOE, 58-44, to take the crown in Lakeland's "Play With Grace" Tournament. No statistical details on either that game or the previous night's win over MacMurray, except that the MSOE website mentioned that the Vikings outrebounded the Raiders by a 39-24 margin.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 20, 2006, 03:23:59 pm
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Post by: RogK on November 21, 2006, 11:21:12 am
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on November 21, 2006, 11:51:07 pm
Hi CCIW folks!  I'm looking forward to an unoffical WIAC/CCIW challenge this weekend when North Central and Wheaton travel north to play UW-Stevens Point and UW-Oshkosh.  I'd like to hear about your teams a little.  I know some about Wheaton, but not much about NCC.

Here's the (relatively) short version on UWO and UWSP:

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view) you will not be playing a traditional UWO contender.  They are way down by any standard and especially by UWO standards.  They have two solid players in forward Tyriver (strong dependable) and guard Knapp (lightning quick, decent shooter).  They have a new freshman named Sharpee that has been playing well, but that's about it.  During their change in coaches they had about a two year lapse in recruiting and graduated a very solid nucleus of players.  Time will tell if the current coach (a VERY successful HS coach in her first college job) can put Oshkosh back in the national picture.

Stevens Point on the other hand will be one of the teams that will challenge UW-Stout for the league title.  They return virtually ever key player from a 20-win team last year.  UWSP shoots the ball very well (58.5 percent through 3 games) mostly due to their size.  They have 7 players listed at 6-0 and above and nobody on the roster at less than 5-9.  Guard Neuenfeldt is one of the top players in the league although she doesn't score a ton of points. Forward Houghton is a dynamic scorer who dropped 21 on the Wisconsin Badgers in an exhibtion game.  Their two centers starter Lechault and reserve Heuer block a lot of shots, and Heuer has found a scoring touch leading the team with 14.0 ppg off the bench.  The Pointers' Achilles heel is turnovers.  With the way they shoot the ball, if they keep the TO's under 15 they are VERY hard to beat.  But if they get careless and hand it over 25 times or so a good team will take advantage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 22, 2006, 04:19:54 am
Hey Greg, you can find stats on NP's first game at lakeland.edu, women's basketball, "Tip Off Classic." There was a 29-4 half-time score!

Thanks, Rog. They weren't up when I checked out the Lakeland website the other day. The NPU website still doesn't have stats up for either game -- but, then again, NPU didn't even have a 2006-07 roster posted for the women's team until yesterday. The school's new SID only started on the job last week, so he's got his hands full already.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 22, 2006, 01:41:52 pm
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Post by: RogK on November 27, 2006, 06:40:59 pm
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on November 28, 2006, 12:12:42 pm
Heard Carthage gets WLC's women at home tonight. Should be another Carthage win, given your overall height advantage.  ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 29, 2006, 05:13:25 am
North Park 70
Augustana 50

NPU (3-0, 1-0) romped to an easy victory in the crackerbox over an outmatched Augustana (0-5, 0-1) that's still enduring growing pains in spite of the fact that new coach Bobbi Endress has four starters returning from last season's team.

The host Vikings used a late 10-0 run to jump out to a 34-17 halftime lead, and in the second half they poured it on from the get-go. Augie never got closer than 15, and NPU led by as many as 25 before Jack Surridge sat his starters with four minutes left in the game.

NPU was led by Laura Mount, who scored 20 points in only 27 minutes of action. She also added four assists and four steals. Evie Peterson notched a double-double with 16 points and 10 rebounds (and had four steals as well), and Lauren Martin chipped in 12 points off the bench on 4-5 shooting from downtown. No Augustana player broke double figures in scoring, as Maegan Skahill and Becky Rehn led the visitors with eight points apiece.

NPU must've played some pretty good defense, as Augie was held to 34% shooting from the field and only went 1-8 from long range. The big city Vikings shot 46% and went 5-11 from downtown. They're shooting a tidy 38% (18-48) from behind the arc for the season, a dramatic improvement from last year's NPU edition that finished dead last in the CCIW in trey shooting. Credit Lauren Martin's return to active duty for that. However, the lack of size underneath the basket will be a chronic source of concern for the Park, as Augie outrebounded them, 40-28.

NPU hosts the three-day Viking Classic this Friday thru Sunday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 29, 2006, 12:24:27 pm
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Post by: Gregory Sager on November 30, 2006, 06:01:39 am
Stylianee Damianides looks stronger this year and may be among the league's best mid-size defensive players.

Jack Surridge is certainly not averse to starting a defensive specialist at the wing. Sara Sietsema started a lot of games for NPU earlier in this decade despite the fact that she rarely touched the ball, because she was such a good defender. And Damianides has more offensive potential than did Sietsema.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 30, 2006, 12:30:21 pm
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Post by: byitisee on December 01, 2006, 08:43:50 pm
Wheaton defeats #9 Calvin 49-46 in a great matchup in the CCIW/MIAA Classic.

Wheaton is finally clicking upon getting Elizabeth Fox back in the lineup.  Now we just need Pouns back.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on December 01, 2006, 09:49:17 pm
I didn't see the game and I'm not doubting your opinion, but I generally don't think of a team that goes for 49 points as "clicking"
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2006, 10:38:24 pm
I didn't see the game and I'm not doubting your opinion, but I generally don't think of a team that goes for 49 points as "clicking"

As long as the opponent has LESS than 49 points, that's clicking! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on December 02, 2006, 09:31:25 am
It wasn't a perfect game for Wheaton, but it was good to see Fox back on the floor and healthy. Cooper was great. Honestly, 49 points is an improvement, since last year Wheaton only scored 45 against Calvin in a losing effort.

Calvin plays great defense. Wheaton scored 0 fast break points, and that's because there were 0 opportunities. As soon as Wheaton touched the ball, there were two defenders waiting for them on the defensive end.

Wheaton had to find points out of its offense, and were able to be more balanced last night by getting some production from behind the three point arc, though they still aren't a great outside shooting team. So far this year they have 16 threes in 7 games. That would give them about 57 threes by the end of the regular season. Sarah Clark made 63 in 2003-04 herself. It makes sense though, seeing that Pouns is injured. In fact, getting Fox to shoot more, might be a good thing. She shot 40% from the arc last year, but only took 47 shots.

It certainly didn't appear that Calvin was worried about Wheaton's outside scoring. They protected the lane most of the night trying to stop Fox and Cooper from driving and keep the ball away from Trenz.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 04, 2006, 01:47:50 pm
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Post by: mr_b on December 29, 2006, 10:13:43 pm
Congratulations to Viking head coach Jack Surridge on achieving his 500th career win.  The Vikings topped Rockford 62-52 on Friday in the championship game of the Rockford Holiday Tournament.  The day before, the Vikings posted a 66-61 victory over Nebraska Wesleyan.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 30, 2006, 12:52:49 am
IWU made 19 3-pointers today in a win at Emory.  The Titans shattered the previous school record of 14, which they tied twice earlier this year.  42 of IWU's 74 FG attempts were from beyond the arc.  Sophomore Mallory Heydorn was 8-14 from 3 and had 32 points.

The Titans are now 10-0 with a game @ Oglethorpe tomorrow...then CCIW time.


http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2006/12/29/sports/doc4595ecf2bb500729188178.txt

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2007/iwu-euw.htm
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 30, 2006, 12:01:36 pm
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 30, 2006, 12:21:08 pm
This year's Titans are really fun to watch.  The starting guards, Heydorn and Sheehan, were excellent as first-year players last year, and they've both improved.  Transfer Sarah Bull is a hustler with a complete game.   Thea Rogers, Colleen Caplice, and Becky Kiverts have stepped up their games after the losses of two key post players--senior co-captain Brianna Baker-Carvell and first-year Christina Solari--to ACL injuries. 

The CCIW season should be interesting, and the best news is that everyone except Baker-Carvell returns next year.  Coach Mia Smith has an outstanding group playing really well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 30, 2006, 03:30:13 pm
Congrats to Jack Surridge upon achieving his 500th career win in NPU's win at Rockford yesterday!

Here's hoping that the next 500 wins come easier, Jack! :D
Title: CCIW
Post by: titan30 on January 02, 2007, 03:31:51 pm
I am obviously a Titan fan, but I am glad that they lost on Saturday - now no CCIW team can be gunning for them to give them their first loss!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 03, 2007, 09:16:37 pm
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Post by: Illinihoops4 on January 06, 2007, 08:08:40 pm
Augie over Elmhurst 62-60.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 08, 2007, 07:14:01 pm
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Post by: Gregory Sager on January 09, 2007, 01:46:29 am
In Chicago, Millikin just snuck by North Park 41-38 in a hard-fought but rancid (37 turnovers, 25 baskets) contest. NP's Alex Coleman and Evie Peterson held Lindsay Ippel to 12 points, a noteworthy accomplishment. MU guard Tracie Yantis played a solid game, as did forward Megan Mateer. Millikin got an energetic boost from Ricki Dorsett. Although she played only 7 minutes, she gave it her all, including diving to the floor in an attempt to deflect the dribble of a North Park player headed the other way. That sort of effort inspires teammates.
NP managed four baskets in the second half. Laura Mount, recent Player of the Week, tallied 9 of their 15 points, including 5 FTs. North Park relies so heavily on Mount driving to the hoop that one wonders if she'll still be in one piece by February. 

What a disappointing loss. NPU led for the first 36+ minutes in that game. The Vikings just couldn't buy a basket to save their lives, and, almost as importantly, they couldn't manage to grab any rebounds in crunch time, either. The end of the game was a long and dreary series of one-and-dones for the Park, with the occasional turnover thrown in for good measure. It was one of those stretches where the absence of height for NPU is glaring, compounded by the team's lack of depth in the post. Alex Coleman and Evie Peterson really did do a good job defensively on Ippel, though.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on January 10, 2007, 12:14:25 am
IWU won by 19 @ Millikin tonight -- that is an attention getter.  The Titans forced 36 Carthage turnovers Saturday  and 31 from the Big Blue.  After losing their top 2 low post players to injury early in the year, Mia Smith's team starts 4 guards and really gets after it defensively.

http://www.millikin.edu/athletics/wbasketball/w-mil13_033.htm


The Titans are now 12-1 and 2-0 in the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 10, 2007, 01:46:16 am
Ah, is this a lead up to the famous 'IWU 5 guard offense'?

If the men can rumor it, why not the women? :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 10, 2007, 01:54:55 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 11, 2007, 02:33:28 am
Good to see NPU bounce back with the win over the Cards. Unfortunately, Lauren Martin had to leave the game with a knee injury. I just hope it isn't serious; the Vikings have a thin rotation, and it can't afford to get any thinner. Plus, she's the team's primary perimeter threat.

Laura Mount is now at 975 career points and counting. She should join the Thousand Point Club either on Saturday at Wheaton or next Tuesday at home against Elmhurst. That will make three Vikings who've reached 1,000 points within a one-year span, graduated seniors Shandrel Young and Megan Slattery having achieved the feat last season. That's a pretty special achievement for NPU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 16, 2007, 02:31:22 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 17, 2007, 12:28:49 am
Big congrats to NPU's Laura Mount, who joined the Thousand Point Club this evening as she led the Vikings to a 51-50 win over Elmhurst. Her 19 points gives her 1,006 for her career. She joins her former teammates, NPU class of '06 graduates Megan Slattery and Shandrel Young, in the exclusive club.

Evie Peterson added 14 points and 8 boards for the Vikes. The Bluejays were led by Candice Sutton with 16 and Brittany Bobruk with 13 points and 9 rebounds.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 17, 2007, 12:00:30 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on January 17, 2007, 06:32:09 pm
The Augie/MU game was a game in which that stats don't tell the story. It was a greatgame! With the exception of the Carthage game, there is a noticeable difference in this Augustana squad. The area they fall short in is post defense (and you can bet they'll be focusing on that). Augie was down by as many as 17 and came back to tie it with 8 something on the clock. They went to a 5 guard line up to get back in the game.

This is a squad that honestly doesn't have a lot of experience. They don't even have an all-conference player.They're coming along and I don't think it's going to be easy to get a win in the Carver Center in the next few weeks. This team has fight- something AC hasn't seen in that program for quite some time. Ippel got her avg. plus some- she's going to. She's a good player. Minus the fouls to stop the clock at the end of the game- it's a 5-6 point ball game. Something no one has expected out of the vikings in at least 2 years. It's a process, but I think this coach has lit the spark. They're becoming fun to watch. Final score was 77-67.
So the bright spot was more than just Katie Engwall's 16 points. There's a lot of the past to erase  (not just on the court stuff) and that takes time.

Looking forward to the future..............

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 18, 2007, 03:25:21 am
To add to what Greg reported above, besides fine games by Mount and Peterson, North Park's reserve (but not reserved) center Cassie Christensen had a rather favorable impact on the contest, coming up with big blocked shots and rebounds, as well as scoring four needed points. NP edged Elmhurst by just one. Stylianee Damianides continued improving her offense by driving in and getting fouled, earning 7 FT attempts. Mary Surridge raised her coaching record to .500; husband Jack hopes to be back at the helm Saturday.

Yes, Cassie Christensen did a terrific job off of the bench for NPU. Considering the thinness of the North Park roster, as well as the team's relative lack of height, I'd like to see her get a consistent spread of minutes in the future. It was especially gratifying to see her hold her own in crunch time.

NPU has to live on the razor's edge every night, especially after losing Lauren Martin to a knee injury for the second year in a row. Not only do the Vikings lack depth, they've now lost their best outside shooter. That will make it even harder for the Park to keep defenses honest. It's encouraging to see sophomore Stylianee Damianides step up as a third option alongside Laura Mount and Evie Peterson, especially since Damianides has a knack for getting to the FT line (where she's 11-13 in CCIW play thus far). But Martin will certainly be missed on a team that's already ranked last in the league in scoring. NPU is an outstanding defensive team, but you still have to put the ball in the basket at the other end of the floor in order to win.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 18, 2007, 11:49:36 am
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 18, 2007, 12:11:06 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 18, 2007, 01:50:37 pm
IWU just toppled Wheaton using 4 guards primarily. Can anyone give us a firsthand report on that one?  The low number of fouls (27 total) tells me that the refs didn't call everything, which tends to keep the score down.


Rog,

It was a very enjoyable game to watch; a classic contrast of styles featuring Wheaton's size and strength against IWU's quickness and athleticism.  I remember thinking just after halftime that I would be glad I was there even if IWU lost, so I don't think I'm too biased in my reporting.

There are always a few inconsistencies or missed calls in a game, but I don't think the officiating had anything to do with the outcome of this one.  Each team's leading scorer--Wheaton's Jill Trenz and IWU's Sarah Bull--had 19 points, with Trenz's coming primarily in the paint and Bull's from all over--she had 4 2's and 3 3's.  The lead never got over 7 points, and Wheaton was ahead by that much in both halves, so it was always close. 

If there was one factor which tipped the balance, it appeared to be some fatigue on Wheaton's part.  The players looked tired and seemed to slow down in the last few minutes; Trenz's last two free throw attempts were clearly those of a tired player. 

Two good coaches made the most of the abilities of their players, making for a close and exciting game.  It wasn't pretty--45 turnovers--but it was intense and intelligently played.
Can't wait for the rematch at Wheaton!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on January 18, 2007, 09:11:22 pm
RogK- My bad. I miss read your post. I didn't mean to come off harsh though. My apologies. There are a lot of aspects of the game that don't show up on the stat sheet. I'm just pulling for the underdog. They really are building from the bottom up. It's great to see the enthusiasm growing with these young ladies. They're finding their passion for the game again. Consistency is key.

The 5 guard line up worked well for AC. At times, Ippel ended up guarding the point guard- not an ideal match- up. I hope to see more of that offense. I'm looking forward to catching IWU's version.

Looking forward to some great games this weekend. Anyone have any info on NCC?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 19, 2007, 11:38:03 am
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on January 20, 2007, 11:33:13 am
A big game this afternoon for the 4-0 (14-1) Titans who travel to 3-2 North Park (11-4).  IWU is very fun to watch with their 4 guard starting lineup and 3-point attack -- they remind me of the U. of Chicago men's team.  (And like the Maroon men, they are vulnerable to an outing where the 3's aren't falling.)  IWU's top 3 scores are all guards who shoot the 3 really well:

Sarah Bull (5-8, Jr.): 35-84 (.417)
Claire Sheehan (5-7, So.): 35-80 (.425)
Mallory Heydorn (5-7, So.): 46-105 (.438)


The Titans play great perimeter defense.  On the season, opponents have 179 assists and 398 turnovers.  That opponent A:TO ratio of 0.45 is about as good as you will find.

After losing their best two low post players to injury in the first weeks of the season, Thea Rogers has really emerged as their one consistent player around the hoop (8.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg).  It seems like when Thea is playing well, the Titans are very hard to beat.

The IWU/NPU game will be on WJBC, AM-1230 at 2:45pm:

http://www.wjbc2.com/
Title: Titans Win
Post by: titan30 on January 20, 2007, 05:49:20 pm
Titans win 66-55 over North Park.  IWU shot only 29%, but made up the difference with their rebounding and free throws.  It will be fun to watch the game against Augie on Tuesday for the guard match-ups. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on January 21, 2007, 12:16:22 am
Augie fell to NCC today. Katie Engwall turned in another great performance off the bench scoring 23 points. NCC's size caused some problems for the vikings once again. Tinkoff shot 23 free throws by herself to Augie's team total of 24 FT's. It was not a well officiated game in my opinion. I did over hear the coach tell her players that it was not their job to worry about the officials. They only had to worry about what they could control and that was they way they played defense and the way they executed their offense.
The staff was not happy at all with their defensive effort in the post. It's been mentioned before that post defense is a serious concern. Since the team isn't going to gain any size this season I'm anxious to see how they bounce back. I feel Augie was the better team, but the missing pieces on this squad are vital one's.
On another note, I've paid particular attention to the coaches and their staffs at all the institutions over the years and I really think that Coach Bauer has some maturity issues. She had no qualms about letting everyone in the gym know how bad they felt Augie was and that they shouldn't have even been in the game. It's one thing for motivation for your players, but it was quite disrespectful. Just my two cents on that.

I won't be at IWU on Tuesday but I hope someone can fill me in on the game.

Until then, Go Bears!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: atn alum on January 21, 2007, 05:25:48 pm
I have joked to our publisher that I should auction off my #1 vote in this week's d3hoops.com Top 25...

I must admit that I don't know which way to go.

There are arguably 7-8 deserving teams, and whose to say of the 1-loss squads remaining, that one is more deserving than the other.

I'm guessing there are a few folks who feel we've shortchanged IWU this year..anyone out there with a legit argument as to why I should change things up a bit and move them way, way up?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 21, 2007, 08:07:36 pm

I'm guessing there are a few folks who feel we've shortchanged IWU this year..anyone out there with a legit argument as to why I should change things up a bit and move them way, way up?

Atn,

I tend not to put a lot of stock in where my teams are ranked, exactly.  It has seemed a bit odd, however, to see DePauw, whom the Titans beat by 9 in the second game of the season when Depauw was ranked #3, stay in the top ten while IWU is ranked in the high teens.  I suppose the rap is "Who have they beaten?" The answer, now that CCIW play is underway, is Millikin and Wheaton, two teams still receiving votes.  The Millikin win, by 19 points on Millikin's court, was particularly impressive, with pre-season all-American Lindsay Ippel held to 16 points. 

The Titans lost two key post players, Brianna Baker-Carvell and Christina Solari, to ACL injuries early on.  What's impressive is the way coach Mia Smith has used her remaining players.  The usual starting lineup contains four guards; three (Sarah Bull, point Mallory Haydorn, and Claire Sheehan) are averaging in double figures.  Last week at Elmhurst, Crystal Dye had a breakout game, scoring 21 points and pulling in 7 rebounds.   

I haven't seen the teams ranked above IWU, so I can't and won't tell you how to vote.  I have watched a lot of basketball in my life, and I've rarely seen a group so personally unselfish; willing to dig in and play a team game.  They dive after loose balls, play defense, and if someone's having an off day, the others take over.  They're a lot of fun to watch, and I look for them to surprise some teams in a few weeks.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 22, 2007, 07:27:38 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 23, 2007, 11:34:49 am
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: titan30 on January 23, 2007, 10:34:20 pm
ATN-

Everyone is biased no matter what role they may have with rankings.  I say leave us down there - just makes the team more fired up to play harder!  IWU should be higher, but they'll take on the 16 above them any day!  Better to be the underdog!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 24, 2007, 02:18:24 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 24, 2007, 03:18:49 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 24, 2007, 03:45:18 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 25, 2007, 06:41:32 pm
A nice writeup on the IWU women's team in Around the Nation - don't miss it!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on January 27, 2007, 10:09:32 am
The IWU/Carthage women's game can be heard on WJBC, AM-1230.  Pregame coverage starts at 4:45pm.

http://www.wjbc.com/
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on January 27, 2007, 10:13:19 am
I haven't looked at the big picture in a ton of detail, but I've been thinking that IWU and Chicago are competing for the #1 seed in the region.  Any Chicago losses (like last night) are big for IWU.

Still a long way to go in the CCIW though.  The Titans need a road win in Kenosha today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 27, 2007, 06:12:34 pm
This afternoon at the Griz, Millikin jumped out to a 14-point lead but then had to hold off a late NPU surge to beat the Vikings, 61-54. NPU got to within a point with under two minutes left, but the Big Blue made just enough FTs down the stretch to stave off the visitors.

Sounds like the two respective All-American candidates for the two teams put on a good show. Lindsay Ippel, whom NPU held to 12 points in the meeting in Chicago between the two teams, had 32 points and 15 boards for Millikin, while Laura Mount scored 26 for NPU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: atn alum on January 28, 2007, 12:30:08 am
Thanks for the compliment, Mr. Ypsi, except some doofus (me) botched the name Mallory Heydorn and called her "Molly."

My apologies to any offended IWU folks out there
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 28, 2007, 12:41:15 am
Atn,

It was a really nice story.  As you said in the story, the IWU women's program has long been in the shadow of the men; it's great that they are coming into their own.  And Mallory scored 27 points tonight in a hard-fought game at Carthage; I don't think she was traumatized by being called "Molly."   Nice job.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on January 29, 2007, 11:11:33 am
The ATN feature on the IWU women was very well done and much appreciated.  It is certainly nice to see Mia Smith's team step out of that shadow.

The Titans showed a lot of heart Saturday at Carthage.  It was a back-and-forth game for the final 10 mintues with two IWU guards taking over down the stretch...Sarah Bull kept the Titans in it with some big shots and Mallory Heydorn drilled a 3 from the top of the key to give IWU a 3-point lead with about 1:00 left. 

By continuing to win in the CCIW, the Titans can put themselves in great tournament position by earning the #1 seed in the region (which could lead to an opportunity to host a sectional).  Current in-region records:

Illinois Wesleyan (CCIW) 15 0 1.000       
UW-Stout (WIAC) 16 1 .941       
Lake Forest (MWC) 13 1 .929       
Chicago (UAA) 14 2 .875       
Concordia (Wis.) (NATHC) 11 2 .846       
 

Still a long way to go, but the opportunity to win the CCIW title, host the conference tournament, and earn a #1 seed should be enough to keep the intensity level high every night out.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 30, 2007, 01:51:56 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on January 30, 2007, 05:45:38 pm
I was also at the Elmhurst/Augie game. I was disappointed as they did not really display the same type of fight and effort that they have in the past. I'm hoping that tonight's game vs. NPU will be a better one. The last match-up was in November and I think both teams are drastically different than they were a few months ago. I also thought that the coaching staff looked drained. I doubt they read this- but as words of encouragement- stay positive and stay consistent! You are changing the program!

The Wheaton at Carthage game is an interesting match-up. I'm pulling for Wheaton in this one.

On a side note, with Concordia-WI not having an automatic qualifier this season- realistically- what are their chances? The conference is not a strong one in general and with all those conference games- it didn't leave much room for non-conference opponents to challenge them. Although I suppose they could get in the same way Rockford did the past few years(weaker schedule, big #'s in the win column, but no major competition.......just some thoughts............
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on January 30, 2007, 10:39:12 pm
From the North Park website: North Park 59, Augie 49.  Laura Mount scored 23 for the Chicago Vikings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 31, 2007, 05:18:15 am
From the North Park website: North Park 59, Augie 49.  Laura Mount scored 23 for the Chicago Vikings.

NPU didn't shoot well -- again -- and they were outrebounded as well, but they did a lot of pickpocketing: 13 of the 22 Augie turnovers were steals. And even though the NPU lead didn't reach double digits for the first time until the second half was in its seventh minute, the visitors did manage to hold that double-digit lead for the rest of the game.

Laura Mount had nine boards to go with her 23 points. She's just one point shy of averaging 20 ppg in the CCIW this season, trailing only Millikin's Lindsay Ippel in the scoring department, and she's the only guard in the league who is averaging over 50% from the field. She leads the league in steals by a wide margin, and she's fifth in assists and sixth in FT pct. In spite of the fact that every opposing team focuses upon her, to the point where she has three or four opponents draped all over her every time she drives to the hoop, she's still putting up sterling numbers this season.

I don't think NPU has had an All-American women's basketball player since Rachel Pearson in the early '90s, but Laura Mount is making a compelling case for herself this season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 31, 2007, 01:37:56 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 02, 2007, 03:35:16 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on February 02, 2007, 09:40:47 pm
The ATN feature on the IWU women was very well done and much appreciated.  It is certainly nice to see Mia Smith's team step out of that shadow.

The Titans showed a lot of heart Saturday at Carthage.  It was a back-and-forth game for the final 10 mintues with two IWU guards taking over down the stretch...Sarah Bull kept the Titans in it with some big shots and Mallory Heydorn drilled a 3 from the top of the key to give IWU a 3-point lead with about 1:00 left. 

By continuing to win in the CCIW, the Titans can put themselves in great tournament position by earning the #1 seed in the region (which could lead to an opportunity to host a sectional).  Current in-region records:

Illinois Wesleyan (CCIW) 15 0 1.000      
UW-Stout (WIAC) 16 1 .941      
Lake Forest (MWC) 13 1 .929      
Chicago (UAA) 14 2 .875      
Concordia (Wis.) (NATHC) 11 2 .846      
 

Still a long way to go, but the opportunity to win the CCIW title, host the conference tournament, and earn a #1 seed should be enough to keep the intensity level high every night out.
I was also at the Elmhurst/Augie game. I was disappointed as they did not really display the same type of fight and effort that they have in the past. I'm hoping that tonight's game vs. NPU will be a better one. The last match-up was in November and I think both teams are drastically different than they were a few months ago. I also thought that the coaching staff looked drained. I doubt they read this- but as words of encouragement- stay positive and stay consistent! You are changing the program!

The Wheaton at Carthage game is an interesting match-up. I'm pulling for Wheaton in this one.

On a side note, with Concordia-WI not having an automatic qualifier this season- realistically- what are their chances? The conference is not a strong one in general and with all those conference games- it didn't leave much room for non-conference opponents to challenge them. Although I suppose they could get in the same way Rockford did the past few years(weaker schedule, big #'s in the win column, but no major competition.......just some thoughts............

This poster's been following the NAthCon all season to this point. IMHO, Concordia-WI will have to win out, (including their own conference tournament) to make Nationals. In that event, the earliest indications I've seen are if they did, it'd be either as Pool B or Pool C, but there's still 2 1/2 weeks of reg season in-conference play left yet. (On top of that, 6 teams are within 2 games of 2nd place, so if Concordia-WI does go on a losing streak, I'd be surprised if any NAthCon team made Nationals).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on February 03, 2007, 01:25:37 am
RogK, yes, the vikings passed up many 3 point shots as at one point this season they were shooting 14% from the arc. Coach Endress has no problem with them shooting it if they're making them. Their shot selection has gotten better as a team this season and I know they're recruiting a very good outside shooter very hard. I also know she preaches that the team must get in and shoot outside of practice. How many have taken this to heart I don't know. They did a great job of attacking the basket last night against Clarke, but against certain CCIW teams they struggle with this. I agree, many areas to improve for Augie as well as the other teams in the conference. I think that for some members of the team, hard work is not something they are used to, perhaps one of the reasons for Sikora to come off the bench. Hard work is something she requires day in and day out (something not in place in the past) and with her first recruiting class I think things will start to fit together nicely.

Carthage is up tomorrow. Hopefully Augie will feed off of Thursday's win because the last meeting was not what they were looking for I'm sure.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 03, 2007, 08:31:35 am
The IWU/Elmhurst game today at 5:15pm will be video streamed (as will the men's game following)...

http://www2.iwu.edu/news/live/index.shtml
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on February 04, 2007, 10:04:07 pm
Augie fell to Carthage, but Coach B. had his hands full. The vikings came out firing on all cylinders and it took quite some time for the Lady Reds to find their groove. He was forced to shuffle his bigs in and out because Sarah Miers was causing some problems for them as she might lack the height, but she certainly doesn't lack the strength. Augie's post defense was much improved and it was fun to watch. Dredge played a nice game for Carthage as did Gartelos off the bench despite fouling out.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 05, 2007, 04:07:06 am
Another rough go down the stretch for NPU, and another narrow loss. Wheaton beat the Vikings on Saturday afternoon in the crackerbox, 63-60, mostly because NPU did not have a player anywhere close to Jill Trenz's height who could prevent her from getting off a shot in close, so Wheaton went to Trenz twice in the final 1:34 and she made two bunnies right over the outstretched arms of the NPU defender. The Vikings did run a great play to get off a final shot from the corner that would've tied the game, but Lauren Martin's trey attempt at the buzzer rimmed out. That makes it twice this season that NPU has missed a trey at the buzzer against Wheaton that would've forced overtime.

Trenz wasn't close to being the game's dominant player, though. Neither were Elizabeth Fox or Brittany Cooper, both of whom followed Trenz into double figures for Wheaton. Laura Mount scored 27 points, a career high, in the losing cause for the Park. My guess is that the CCIW's Most Outstanding Player award is going to come down to either Mount or Millikin's Lindsay Ippel ... and I just hope that Mount isn't penalized for the fact that her team is not faring as well as the Big Blue.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 05, 2007, 11:39:40 am
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Post by: RogK on February 05, 2007, 01:11:00 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 05, 2007, 07:45:33 pm
I'd say you also have to examine why IWU is 9-0, Greg.
And Mallory Heydorn is the #1 reason for that. She should not be penalized for having an (almost) equally superb teammate in Claire Sheehan. Heydorn is the best all-around guard in the conference, I think. Best player in the conference? Too early to say. Let's see what happens with IWU vs Millikin tomorrow and at Wheaton on Saturday. Mount and Ippel will be 1st teamers all-conf, but lets wait on the MOP award for a while more. If Trenz finishes strong and Wheaton doesn't lose again, maybe she's the most outstanding.

I think Mount is clearly better than either Heydorn or Sheehan. Together, though, it's no contest -- the Illinois Wesleyan duo is by far the best backcourt in the league. As for Trenz, I was not that impressed by her on Saturday. She didn't look to me as though she'd progressed from last season. Yes, her height advantage was instrumental in the closing minutes of Wheaton's victory over NPU on Saturday, but she should've used it to be the dominant player whenever she was on the floor. She wasn't even close to being dominant on Saturday. I was much more impressed by Fox and Cooper; they were the two players who really stepped up and kept Wheaton going throughout the game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 05, 2007, 09:49:13 pm

I think Mount is clearly better than either Heydorn or Sheehan. Together, though, it's no contest -- the Illinois Wesleyan duo is by far the best backcourt in the league.

Greg, I'm not sure on what objective criteria you've based your judgment that Mount is "clearly better" than Heydorn, in particular.  Here are some stats from the CCIW website (they've both played in 20 games; I've edited a bit):

Individual scoring:

3.Mount, Laura-NPU.........  17.8
4.Bull, Sarah-IWU..........     16.7
5.Tinkoff, Danielle-NCC....    16.1
6.Heydorn, Mallory-IWU.....  15.6
7.Sheehan, Claire-IWU......  14.6

Assists:

4.Heydorn, Mallory-IWU.....  4.10
5.Mount, Laura-NPU.........   3.50

Free Throw Percentage:

 5.Heydorn, Mallory-IWU.....    .808
 6.Dredge, Kristina-CARTHAG  .800
 7.Mount, Laura-NPU.........     .771
 8.Sheehan, Claire-IWU......    .765

Steals:

 1.Mount, Laura-NPU.........    20     51   2.55
 2.Fidelia, Kathleen-WHEATON19     47   2.47
 3.Heydorn, Mallory-IWU.....    20     49   2.45

3-pt FG percentage:

2.Heydorn, Mallory-IWU.....  .433
3.Bull, Sarah-IWU..........      .402
4.Sheehan, Claire-IWU......   .396

3-pt FG made:

1.Heydorn, Mallory-IWU.....   3.25
2.Bull, Sarah-IWU..........       2.17
3.Sheehan, Claire-IWU......    2.10

Assist-to-turnover ratio:

3.Heydorn, Mallory-IWU.....   1.44
4.Riebock,Andrea-MILLIKIN.. 1.03
5.Mount, Laura-NPU.........     1.03

Defensive rebounds:

12.Mount, Laura-NPU.........  3.50
13.Heydorn, Mallory-IWU..... 3.45

The one category where Mount is among the leaders and Heydorn is not is Field Goal Percentage:

 4.Mount, Laura-NPU.........        .500
 5.Gartelos, Lisa-CARTHAGE       .493
 6.Jarger, Katie-CARTHAGE.       .485
 7.Sheehan, Claire-IWU......       .467
 8.Cooper, Brittany-WHEATON.  .466
 9.Bull, Sarah-IWU..........          .466

This is offset by the strong 3-point shooting of Heydorn and her colleagues Claire Sheehan and Sarah Bull. 

Laura Mount is a very fine player, no question.  But there is no way she is "clearly better" than Mallory Heydorn.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 05, 2007, 10:34:28 pm
A lot of talk about IWU's backcourt duo of Heydorn (15.6 ppg) and Sheehan (14.6 ppg), but don't forget IWU's leading scorer is guard Sarah Bull (16.7 ppg).  I have no idea who you'd call the 2 and who the 3 on this team...Sheehan and Bull are both basically shooting guards.  (Bull has missed the last two games with a sprained ankle, but I believe will return tomorrow.)

I do not know the women's side of the league well enough yet to know where Mallory Heydorn stands as an M.O.P. candidate, but she is absolutely fantastic.  She is a great point-guard, averaging 4.1 assists per game with a 1.4 A:TO ratio.  On the defensive end, she has 49 steals.  Mallory is also a great scorer and one of the best 3-point shooters I've ever seen -- 65-150 (.433).  From the FT line she's 42-52 (.808).  Finally, she is just simply clutch.  She hit a 3 from about 24 feet to beat Carthage in Kenosha, after the Lady Reds had battled back from a big deficit to take a lead.  You can tell she is just one of those players who wants the ball in the big situations and isn't scared to take the game winning shot. 

It is always hard to compare a point-guard to other positions on the floor, because with point-guards a lot of what they do does not show up on the stat sheet.  I know that is how it is with Heydorn.  She is IWU's MVP and I'd think one of the top M.O.P. candidates in the CCIW.

IWU has two huge games this week -- tomorrow at home vs Millikin and Saturday @ Wheaton. 

Ill. Wesleyan  9-0 
Wheaton 8-1 
Millikin 7-2 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 06, 2007, 01:50:29 am

I think Mount is clearly better than either Heydorn or Sheehan. Together, though, it's no contest -- the Illinois Wesleyan duo is by far the best backcourt in the league.

Greg, I'm not sure on what objective criteria you've based your judgment that Mount is "clearly better" than Heydorn, in particular.

Personal observation of the two of them going head-to-head. The coaches don't vote for MOP based upon statistics, although Mount matches up very well across the board against Heydorn, as you demonstrated yourself.

Laura Mount is a very fine player, no question.  But there is no way she is "clearly better" than Mallory Heydorn.

I emphatically disagree. In fact, Heydorn's playing alongside two backcourt mates as solid as Bull and Sheehan further militates in Mount's favor. This is not a knock at NPU's other perimeter players, but they are not nearly up to par with Bull and Sheehan. Every time the ball is in Laura Mount's hands, the other team keys on her. Every time that she makes a move towards the basket with the ball, the entire defense collapses upon her. You'll see as many as three or four opponents surround her, because NPU simply lacks the outside shooters who can make an opposing team pay with a kickout trey. And yet she's still scoring points by the bushel.

Here's the top ten scorers in the CCIW, with the percentage of their team's points that they have scored:

1. Lindsay Ippel, MU35.9%
2. Laura Mount, NPU36.9%
3. Danielle Tinkoff, NCC30.9%
4. Brianne Parra, NCC28.2%
5. Mallory Heydorn, IWU23.0%
6. Sarah Bull, IWU17.1%
7. Jill Trenz, WC22.9%
8. Lyndsie Long, EC23.0%
9. Brittany Bobruk, EC22.7%
10. Katie Jarger, CC21.0%

Given that Lindsay Ippel has already won four POTW awards, my guess is that she has the inside track on MOP. But I'd like to see Laura Mount get her due consideration.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 06, 2007, 08:45:07 am
.... Mount matches up very well across the board against Heydorn, as you demonstrated yourself....

That was my point.  In most statistical categories, they are very close.  No way either one is "clearly better" from looking at the stats.

I emphatically disagree. In fact, Heydorn's playing alongside two backcourt mates as solid as Bull and Sheehan further militates in Mount's favor. This is not a knock at NPU's other perimeter players, but they are not nearly up to par with Bull and Sheehan. Every time the ball is in Laura Mount's hands, the other team keys on her. Every time that she makes a move towards the basket with the ball, the entire defense collapses upon her. You'll see as many as three or four opponents surround her, because NPU simply lacks the outside shooters who can make an opposing team pay with a kickout trey. And yet she's still scoring points by the bushel.


So it sounds as though you're saying Heydorn is a lesser player because she plays with stronger teammates.  Any contending team needs a point guard, and Heydorn fills that role superbly as well as being a clutch scorer herself. 

Here's the top ten scorers in the CCIW, with the percentage of their team's points that they have scored:

1. Lindsay Ippel, MU35.9%
2. Laura Mount, NPU36.9%
3. Danielle Tinkoff, NCC30.9%
4. Brianne Parra, NCC28.2%
5. Mallory Heydorn, IWU23.0%

I don't want to quibble, but given the numbers you quoted there, it looks as though Mount should be first, not second, in that category. Again, that speaks more to the quality of the supporting cast than to the relative merits of Heydorn and Mount.

 
Given that Lindsay Ippel has already won four POTW awards, my guess is that she has the inside track on MOP. But I'd like to see Laura Mount get her due consideration.

I agree totally that she deserves "due consideration," but that's a far cry from being "clearly better."  Laura Mount may well deserve to be named Most Outstanding Player.  In the meantime, this is a huge week for for IWU with games against Millkin and Wheaton, and I agree with Rog that it's premature to be making decisions about MOP.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 06, 2007, 05:00:25 pm
The IWU-Millikin game scheduled for 7:30 tonight at Shirk has been postponed until Thursday night at 7:30 due to the weather.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 07, 2007, 02:31:59 am
.... Mount matches up very well across the board against Heydorn, as you demonstrated yourself....

That was my point.  In most statistical categories, they are very close.  No way either one is "clearly better" from looking at the stats.

And my point was that stats do not decide the MOP award, nor do the basic stats always provide intrinsically perfect metrics for comparison. In this case, they contain a surprising disparity when looked at within the contexts of the two respective teams.

So it sounds as though you're saying Heydorn is a lesser player because she plays with stronger teammates.  Any contending team needs a point guard, and Heydorn fills that role superbly as well as being a clutch scorer herself. 

Heydorn's teammates definitely put her in a more favorable light. She's a terrific player in her own right, but they make it much easier for her to succeed. Mount, by contrast, has to do an awful lot of heavy lifting by herself, particularly because her primary offensive strength is as a penetrator. In other words, it's not a matter of her teammates setting her up as a shooter -- it's frequently a matter of, "Give Laura the ball, and then step aside and watch her drive to the basket with most of the opposition draped all over her." And Mount is NPU's point guard, too -- she brings the ball up the floor as much, if not more, than does Anna Mueller, and the ball is in her hands at least half the time on NPU's possessions.

This makes it sound as though her teammates are useless appendages, and I don't mean for it to sound that way at all. Evie Peterson, Anna Mueller, Alex Coleman, and Stylianee Damianides are all decent CCIW players, and I think that Peterson and Damianides will be able to improve their games and shoulder increased scoring responsibilities next season after Mount has graduated. But Mount's relative ability at this level of basketball, and the combination of her particular skill set and the specific weaknesses of her teammates (i.e., poor perimeter shooting and a lack of height in the post), does make it seem as though the Vikings are frequently a one-woman team on offense. She's led North Park in scoring in 16 of their 21 games and has taken an outsized proportion of NPU's field goal and free throw attempts. The only players in the league who are comparable to Mount in terms of shot attempts both from the field and from the line are Lindsay Ippel and Danielle Tinkoff.

I don't want to quibble, but given the numbers you quoted there, it looks as though Mount should be first, not second, in that category. Again, that speaks more to the quality of the supporting cast than to the relative merits of Heydorn and Mount.

Mount is first in that category. Look at the numbers again. She's a full percentage point ahead of Ippel, and six percentage points ahead of #3 Danielle Tinkoff. As for this statistic saying more about the supporting casts than the relative talents of Mount and Heydorn, I disagree. The statistical disparity between the two is much too great for that. Mount scores half again as many of her team's points as does Heydorn. Opposing coaches have to contend with three different perimeter threats when they game-plan for Illinois Wesleyan, which works to Heydorn's advantage. The game plan for stopping NPU can be basically condensed into three words: Stop Laura Mount.

I agree totally that she deserves "due consideration," but that's a far cry from being "clearly better."  Laura Mount may well deserve to be named Most Outstanding Player.  In the meantime, this is a huge week for for IWU with games against Millkin and Wheaton, and I agree with Rog that it's premature to be making decisions about MOP.

Given that Lindsay Ippel has already won four POTW awards, my concern is that the decision for MOP has already been made.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 07, 2007, 02:40:45 am
NPU's outside chance at a CCIW tourney berth stayed alive tonight as the Vikings took down North Central, 73-64, in the airplane hangar in Naperville. Laura Mount led the Vikings with 17 in only 25 minutes of action (I'm not sure why she spent so much time on the bench, as she ended the game without commiting a foul; I hope she didn't get hurt). Cassie Christensen came off of the bench to add 12 points for the Park, which I'm pretty sure is a career high for her, and Anna Mueller and Evie Peterson chipped in 11 points apiece. Peterson notched a double-double, as she also garnered ten boards. NCC was led by Danielle Tinkoff with a game-high 29 points, while Kate Schmidt added 10 for the Cards before fouling out. NPU outrebounded NCC, 36-30, and the Vikings only turned the ball over a season-low seven times.

NPU, which is in close to a must-win situation from here on out, will return to the western suburbs on Saturday afternoon to face Elmhurst.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 07, 2007, 08:02:38 am
It's good to see so much talking on this board recently.

Sager- I am not sure how much you have seen of Jill Trenz this year, but I find it ironic that the game you refer to is one where she scored 19 points and grabbed 10 rebounds. She also happened to pass the 1,000 point and 650 rebound milestone. I defer to your basketball genius, but those seem like pretty impressive stats given that no one has reached those kind of numbers this quickly at Wheaton at least since Stephanie Clark and Nicole Merchant in the early to mid 90s.

Is Trenz ever going to put up 35 points a game like Ippel? I doubt it, but that isn't the way Wheaton plays. No one has scored more than 26 points in a game since Sarah Harris put up 38 and 34 points in back-to-back games before hurting her back in 2003.

However Trenz will get you about 13 or 14 points, 9 or 10 rebounds and 6 blocked shots a game. She is a force on the defensive end of the floor and is playing with a young group of guards. Wheaton is almost never going to produce someone like Ippel or Mount who can dominate the stat sheet the way they do. However, they have won the last two conference championships playing more balanced basketball.

Laura Mount is a great player, and I won't take any shots at her. She has helped North Park grow quite a bit these last few years, but generally I don't care who the "game's dominant player" is. Winning means more to me.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 07, 2007, 08:03:51 am
And by the way, the award is the Most Outstanding Player, and Ippel is probably the best player in the country, so there really shouldn't be any debate, at least for the top award. I think that the Heydorn-Mount debate is interesting.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Chicago_BBall_97 on February 07, 2007, 08:26:55 am
Illinihoops4 -  You seem to know a lot about Augustana's team this year.  One question, for a coach who prides herself on defense, what's the reasoning for Augustana being second to last in Scoring Defense in the CCIW?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 07, 2007, 01:49:23 pm
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Post by: RogK on February 07, 2007, 03:54:42 pm
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Post by: Illinihoops4 on February 07, 2007, 06:02:01 pm
RogK thanks for rundown on the Wheaton-Augie game.  The boxscore had some icy shooting percentages. Augie shot 29.8 percent while Wheaton was at 29.7 percent. Doesn't sound like a pretty game.

Chicago- one question for you- what do you know about the Augustana program? I'm not going to make excuses for them and I know their coach is fully aware of where they stand defensively as well as every other category in the conference. Fact of the matter is, they are missing a lot of pieces. Many problems early on were a result of turnovers. Fast break points, etc. Augie has cut their turnovers down since Christmas (much of that coming with the play of Rachwalski as RogK mentioned above). Then it was ball pressure and not contesting the 3pt. shot. When you don't face that in practice (because it's not one of their strengths), it's hard to adjust to because- while Augie has a couple athletes- they don't have basketball players. They've defended the 3 pt. shot much better as of late and their ball pressure has improved. The biggest problem however has been their lack of size and strength in the post. They do not have a player that stands a true 6 ft. You can't coach size. In fact, while Skahill is their leading scorer, she lacks the defensive skills. Sarah Miers, Rachel Newtoff, and Cindy Kastning have become the most effective post defenders, none of which are taller than 5'9. Even with outstretched hands it's not too difficult to shoot over them. Teams that have 2,3,4 strong post players cause problems for them because they don't have the personnel. From there it's helpside and to be honest, they've improved quite a bit  in that area in the last few game and they are beginning to understand the game and play team defense. The players have to have some basketball knowledge to compete consistently at this level. Fill in the missing pieces and add experience and I'll think they'll be better in the future. I know Coach likes to switch up her defenses and press, but they don't have the athletes to do that in this conference. So, you do the best you can with what you've got.
Just my 2 cents.

There is a major drop off after 7 players or so and I would also like to see them bring in at least 6 players. A pure shooter, 3-4 post true posts are necessities. Buzz is that more recruiting is being done this year than in the past 5-6 years. We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 08, 2007, 01:10:14 am
It's good to see so much talking on this board recently.

Sager- I am not sure how much you have seen of Jill Trenz this year, but I find it ironic that the game you refer to is one where she scored 19 points and grabbed 10 rebounds. She also happened to pass the 1,000 point and 650 rebound milestone. I defer to your basketball genius, but those seem like pretty impressive stats given that no one has reached those kind of numbers this quickly at Wheaton at least since Stephanie Clark and Nicole Merchant in the early to mid 90s.

Is Trenz ever going to put up 35 points a game like Ippel? I doubt it, but that isn't the way Wheaton plays. No one has scored more than 26 points in a game since Sarah Harris put up 38 and 34 points in back-to-back games before hurting her back in 2003.

However Trenz will get you about 13 or 14 points, 9 or 10 rebounds and 6 blocked shots a game. She is a force on the defensive end of the floor and is playing with a young group of guards. Wheaton is almost never going to produce someone like Ippel or Mount who can dominate the stat sheet the way they do. However, they have won the last two conference championships playing more balanced basketball.

Laura Mount is a great player, and I won't take any shots at her. She has helped North Park grow quite a bit these last few years, but generally I don't care who the "game's dominant player" is. Winning means more to me.

Hey, don't get me wrong -- I think Trenz is a very strong player. But against a team as seriously lacking in size as NPU, she should've been more dominant. She seemed very tentative on offense for most of the game, and, as I said, it was Fox and Cooper who were Wheaton's sparks throughout the second half. But Trenz did respond with the big buckets in crunch time, as I said.

I like to see a team that goes ten or twelve deep, so in addition to Augie, other CCIW teams that have room for five or six good newcomers in '07-'08 : NC, NP, EC.
Think how much fun it would be to have all 8 schools in contention for the conference tournament.

Jack Surridge really needs to load up and have a strong recruiting year for NPU. He usually seems to bring in one good player per year; this year he needs to bring in at least three or four. And he needs height; NPU has suffered all season from the fact that Megan Slattery was not replaced after last season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 08, 2007, 11:39:32 am
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Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 08, 2007, 11:14:05 pm
After IWU got its first ever first place vote (in the season it cracked the top 25 for the first time), they fell (hard) tonight to Millikin (at the Shirk!), 67-49.  I couldn't get a broadcast, so if anyone did, or was there, please fill in impressions.  From the box score:

MU had 43 rebounds (Ippel and Schwartz combined for 20) to the Titans' 28.

MU shot 50% overall (54% from 3), plus 90% from the line; the Titans shot under 25% overall (21% from 3), and only 67% from the line.

Ippel and Schwartz combined for 33 of the 67 points.  Heydorn led all scorers with 19, but it took her 7-21 (2-8 from 3) and 3 of 5 from the line to get there.

Sounds like the only thing keeping the game from a total rout was turnovers: IWU had only 12, the Blue had 25.

With Wheaton up in less than two days, better get back on track VERY quickly!

Earlier today I was recalling two years ago when one lonely voter gave Millikin first place votes several weeks in a row, when they were otherwise in the lower reaches of the top 10 - you recall, I'm sure, how that season ended!  Now I curse this year's lonely voter who jinxed our women! >:(  Oh, well, the season is certainly not 'down-the-tubes' with tonight's fiasco!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 08, 2007, 11:41:40 pm
Very disappointing performance tonight by the Titans.  IWU is a perimeter-oriented team, so they're vulnerable to nights when the jump shots aren't falling, but I never thought I'd see anything like this.  The Titans were 15-61 (24.6% from the field), including 5-24 (20.8%) from 3!  IWU shot the ball 19 more times from the field than Millikin and lost by 18 points...think about that for a second.  I'm not sure I've ever seen so many missed layups and other easy shots.

IWU won its last two games without leading scorer Sarah Bull (ankle sprain).  Bull did not start again tonight but played 14 minutes off the bench, and never looked right. 

The CCIW race changed a lot tonight.  9-1 IWU travels to 9-1 Wheaton Saturday...doesn't get much bigger than that.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 09, 2007, 06:18:04 am
...and then Wheaton goes and plays a likely 8-2 Millikin on Tuesday in Decatur. It's possible that there could be a three way tie at 10-2 by Tuesday night.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 09, 2007, 07:46:50 am
"Load up" is a good way of phrasing it, Greg. North Park has a maximum of six returning players for '07-'08, and two of them have played very little.
If I understand the NP philosophy, it is to slow the game, limiting the number of events : possessions, fouls, etc. This serves to keep their individuals less fatigued and out of foul trouble and prevents the opposition from developing momentum. They do not want to get into a "track meet" with anyone. This style requires fewer players than would be needed for a run-and-gun team. Still, they need at least four new additions to play any sort of style, slowish or other.

I think that Jack Surridge prefers this slowdown, defense-oriented style, and since the man has over 500 career wins I'm certainly not going to second-guess his philosophy. It hasn't gotten North Park to the top of the league, but it's certainly made the Vikings a respectable CCIW program year in and year out. However, I also wonder how much of this style is borne by necessity. NPU never has the numbers in terms of roster strength, because the program never brings in more than three players or so a year, four at the most. Of course, it needs to be said in Jack's defense that he also has a very demanding and time-intensive second job as the school's athletic director, and he does not have a full-time assistant to help him with recruiting.

I remember one game a few years ago when Carthage was visiting the crackerbox and the Lady Reds had 21 players in uniform ... and NPU had eight players suited up. I asked Carthage coach Tim Bernero after the game if he just wanted to make sure he had us outnumbered 2-to-1 in case there was a bench-clearing brawl. :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 09, 2007, 11:42:17 am
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Post by: titan30 on February 12, 2007, 11:25:29 pm
The Thunder looked great on Saturday.  The Titans were simply outhustled and outcoached.  Wheaton scored easily against the Titan press; the press should have been taken off a lot earlier rather than waiting until halftime to discuss it.  The refs were not the best, but regardless, it was Wheaton's game.  The Titans were being pushed around; Colleen Caplice needs to be in the game more often to add some much needed muscle.  Claire Sheehan was a non-factor - when she received the ball she didn't even bother looking at the basket; she just looked to pass every time.  Crystal Dye has talent, but there is obviously some issues between her and the coach.  Hopefully, things will come together for the CCIW tournament.  I have not seen Millikin play, but after seeing Wheaton, I'd say the momentum is on the Thunder's side.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 13, 2007, 01:50:30 am
I think Wheaton has the momentum and the point may be rendered moot, but IF Millikin can hold home court there is a high probability that there will be a 3-way tie for first at the end of the regular season.  Since IWU, Millikin, and Wheaton would all be 1-1 against each other, and undefeated against everyone else, what tie-breaker would end up applying?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 13, 2007, 03:45:43 am
I think Wheaton has the momentum and the point may be rendered moot, but IF Millikin can hold home court there is a high probability that there will be a 3-way tie for first at the end of the regular season.  Since IWU, Millikin, and Wheaton would all be 1-1 against each other, and undefeated against everyone else, what tie-breaker would end up applying?

The women have the same tiebreaker system as the men, Chuck. The first applicable tiebreaker is d. Road record against conference schools. Illinois Wesleyan and Millikin accomplished a road-dominated split with each other this season, so the road records of the three schools would be:

Illinois Wesleyan6-1
Millikin6-1
Wheaton5-2

Since that doesn't break the tie, we proceed to e. Record in their last nine games. And the result of that is:

Millikin8-1
Illinois Wesleyan7-2
Wheaton7-2

Therefore, in the event of a three-way tie at 12-2, the CCIW tourney will be held at the Griz in Decatur.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 13, 2007, 10:35:25 am
Thanks, Greg, for clarifying the tiebreaker scenario.  Both Millkin and Wheaton looked very strong in their recent games against the Titans.

titan30 gets a lot of things right:  the Thunder were often (but not always!) able to beat the Titan press, "the refs were not the best but regardless, it was Wheaton's game," Colleen Caplice has become an effective post player, Claire Sheehan had an off game.  But it appears that if anyone has issues with coaching, it's titan30:

[snip]... The Titans were simply outhustled and outcoached.  Wheaton scored easily against the Titan press; the press should have been taken off a lot earlier rather than waiting until halftime to discuss it.  ...[snip]...Crystal Dye has talent, but there is obviously some issues between her and the coach.  ...[snip]

Given the early season loss of two post players, the Titans are severely undersized at almost every position.  Their press has been their strength all season and still caused a fair number of turnovers against Wheaton and especially against Millikin.  Man-to-man they just don't match up well against big, strong teams like Wheaton. 

And it's far from "obvious" that there are issues between Crystal Dye and Mia Smith.  I have no idea what inspired that remark, and I don't think it's accurate at all. 

Congratulations to the Big Blue and the Thunder and their coaches for two very good games against the Titans.  The CCIW tournament looks to feature some great rematches.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 13, 2007, 10:41:52 am
I think it should be noted that the Titans were down 3 in the Wheaton game with about 2:30 left, and made two major runs to get to within 3 of Millikin in the second half.  I think the last time the margin was that narrow against Millikin was with 8 minutes to go.  In both cases, the games were much closer than the final score indicated.   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 13, 2007, 12:05:47 pm
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Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 13, 2007, 01:18:04 pm
I think Wheaton has the momentum and the point may be rendered moot, but IF Millikin can hold home court there is a high probability that there will be a 3-way tie for first at the end of the regular season.  Since IWU, Millikin, and Wheaton would all be 1-1 against each other, and undefeated against everyone else, what tie-breaker would end up applying?

The women have the same tiebreaker system as the men, Chuck. The first applicable tiebreaker is d. Road record against conference schools. Illinois Wesleyan and Millikin accomplished a road-dominated split with each other this season, so the road records of the three schools would be:

Illinois Wesleyan6-1
Millikin6-1
Wheaton5-2

Since that doesn't break the tie, we proceed to e. Record in their last nine games. And the result of that is:

Millikin8-1
Illinois Wesleyan7-2
Wheaton7-2

Therefore, in the event of a three-way tie at 12-2, the CCIW tourney will be held at the Griz in Decatur.

Just a point of clarification (it would be irrelevant this year, but might make a difference another time):

Wouldn't Wheaton drop out after the 'road record' tie-breaker, and just IWU/Millikin revert back to the first tie-breaker?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 13, 2007, 01:37:20 pm
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Post by: Pat Coleman on February 13, 2007, 09:46:35 pm
Wouldn't Wheaton drop out after the 'road record' tie-breaker, and just IWU/Millikin revert back to the first tie-breaker?

That's how most conferences do their tiebreakers, yes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 13, 2007, 10:47:46 pm
Wouldn't Wheaton drop out after the 'road record' tie-breaker, and just IWU/Millikin revert back to the first tie-breaker?

That's how most conferences do their tiebreakers, yes.

It's not spelled out either way in the CCIW women's basketball sports guide, which is where the tiebreaker rules are laid out. That's why I included Wheaton in tiebreaker e. -- just in case Wheaton didn't drop out.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: titan30 on February 13, 2007, 11:42:51 pm
Hoosier Titan-

I'm not trying to start anything about Crystal Dye and Coach Smith.  Don't imply that I have some major problem.  I am basing my information from my observations from Saturday's game.  When Dye comes out of the game, her head is down, she does not shake/slap the coach's hand when it is held out (more than one occasion), she shakes her head negatively after a coach's comment, and also turns her head and does not look at the coach during a timeout.  The other four players all were listening and making eye contact.  Coach Smith did yell at her to look up at her and she still didn't.  There just does not appear to be any respect present.  This definitely can cause problems.    Again, just my observations and opinion.  I am a Titan fan - always have been and always will be.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 14, 2007, 07:23:26 am
Sager- I remember beating my head against the wall last year about tie-breaker scenarios. What I learned was that they are not clearly defined, and that an important factor is not mentioned. We learned last year that the interpretation of the commissioner (and generally what he decides the last time, because it often changes) is most important in these tiebreakers. I'm just going to show up wherever they tell me to be.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 14, 2007, 08:03:45 am
titan30,

I didn't imply anything about you--I simply responded to your own words.  Do you know either Mia Smith or Crystal Dye personally?  Do you know what medical problems Dye has gone through to get back to playing regularly for Coach Smith?  Do you know that Crystal began at IWU playing both volleyball and basketball, and gave up volleyball to concentrate on playing for Mia Smith?

When things aren't going well--and it wasn't a great game for the Titans on Saturday (credit Wheaton for a lot of that too)--tempers can get a little short on both sides during timeouts.  I haven't witnessed any disrespect on either side, and I've been at every game save the two in Georgia.  The Titan women this year are one of the most team-oriented groups of players I've ever seen; that's a big part of their success to date.

I really agreed with everything else you said about the game.  Go Titans!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 14, 2007, 11:42:42 am
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Post by: RogK on February 14, 2007, 01:23:43 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 15, 2007, 01:18:50 am
NPU found a way to nip Carthage this evening, 54-53, in spite of the fact that the Vikings led for less than a full minute of the game. The difference in the game was NPU's long-distance shooting, which was outstanding; the Vikes went 8-16 from downtown, and most of those eight treys came off of kickouts from Laura Mount after she had sucked in a Carthage triple-team on a drive to the basket.

Mount led all scorers with 20 points. Evie Peterson also came up big for the Park with 18 points and 7 rebounds. Carthage was led by Shana Lieberman, who had an off night from the floor, and by Katie Jarger, both of whom scored 11. Kristina Dredge added 10 for the Carthaginians.

The game was not without controversy. With North Park down 53-52 with less than ten seconds to go, Mount was called for traveling in the post. Stylianee Damianides immediately fouled Jarger on the inbounds play, and Jarger went to the line with eight seconds left. She missed the first FT, and her second FT was negated because her foot was over the line. Peterson took the inbounds pass for NPU and went coast-to-coast, sinking a five-foot runner with 3.4 seconds left.

Vikings center Cassie Christensen deflected the inbounds pass, which was picked up by NPU guard Anna Mueller. And here Mueller made the smart play that you'd expect from a senior; whereas under normal circumstances a player whose team was ahead by a point would simply dribble out the clock or smother the ball until the horn sounded, Mueller realized that Carthage had beaten NPU by three up in Kenosha in January, and that the Vikings thus needed two more points to even up a possible head-to-head-points tiebreaker between the Lady Reds and the Vikings, if it came down to that to determine the league's fourth and final tournament spot. So she banked in a fifteen-footer at the buzzer instead of letting the clock run out.

Unfortunately for the Park, and fortunately for Carthage, Mueller's shot was waved off as having come after the final horn began. There was a lot of arguing about that from the NPU side, as the Surridges tried to get the refs to reverse the call before they left the court, but to no avail. I was courtside working the book, and I honestly couldn't tell if the shot had left her hand in time or not. So, if it does come down to tiebreaker f. The point spread of the tied teams' head-to-head competition, Carthage gets the nod.

Regardless, congratulations to NPU on pulling off a hard-fought victory on Senior Night!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 15, 2007, 01:34:31 am
Carthage is now 7-5, and NPU is 7-6. The Lady Reds play at home against Millikin on Saturday afternoon, and finish the regular season @ Wheaton on Tuesday night. NPU's lone remaining game is @ Illinois Wesleyan on Saturday afternoon.

The Vikings and Lady Reds have split, and neither has beaten any of the three teams above them in the standings. If neither team can pull off an upset in any of those three remaining games, both will finish 7-7 and it'll come down to tiebreakers. Both teams would be 0-6 against the teams above them in the standings, both would be 6-0 against teams below them in the standings, both would be 3-4 in road games, and both would be 4-5 over their last nine games. So the remaining tiebreaker is f -- head-to-head points, which Carthage wins by a two-point overall margin. In other words, NPU has to win in Bloomington on Saturday in order to have a chance at the CCIW tournament.

Anna Mueller's basket at the buzzer being waved off may prove to be the biggest call made in the CCIW this season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 15, 2007, 07:29:52 am
Here's a link to the Pantagraph story about the Titans' 84-68 win over Augustana in Rock Island last night.

Mallory Heydorn set a school record for made 3-pointers with 11.  She ended up with 37 points, 8 assists, 5 steals, and only 2 turnovers.  Sarah Bull had 15 and Thea Rogers 10; Claire Sheehan and Crystal Dye each chipped in 8.  Dye had 9 rebounds and 5 steals.

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/02/15/sports/doc45d3e9757631a548037485.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 15, 2007, 11:41:42 am
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Post by: Illinihoops4 on February 15, 2007, 10:15:26 pm
The IWU/Augie game was a lot of fun to watch. Augie got off to a great start and caused IWU some problems early on. It was a 6 point ball game at the half and it would have been tied if not for a couple lapses. Heydorn was on fire- shooting from anywhere and everwhere. She's one of the best shooters I've seen at the DIII level! Props to her for a great game and congrats on the new school record.
Augie's seniors played a good amount and did some very nice things early in the game. Rymer gives it everything she's got every time she steps on the floor. It was an emotional game for some of them, but Rymer has also got softball season ahead of her so I'm not sure it's quite hit her yet. She's had a solid season. Maybe they can pull one off at NCC Saturday.

As for the officials at the NPU-Carthage game...... I've seen many interesting calls this year and some games that I would say call for review. I usually don't say much about the officiating (because I've officiated myself at the h.s., DIII, and NAIA levels), but the games that I've seen have looked like they've gone through the standings and if a team "isn't supposed to win"- they gotten several questionnable calls-because the lower teams shouldn't be competing with the upper half of the standings (that's what it looks like to me sometimes). I've seen 3 Elmhurst games, 2 NCC, a handfull of Augie games, and several games in other conferences. I wonder if the coach's officials evaluations are being taken seriously. I personally always wanted copies of the games I called to better myself. That may not be the case with many of these. I wonder who will be calling the conference tournament............
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 15, 2007, 10:35:50 pm
Wheaton won @ Millikin tonight 76-73, so it looks like the Thunder have it just about wrapped up...

Wheaton 11-1 (vs Elmhurst, vs Carthage)
Illinois Wesleyan 10-2 (vs NPU, @ NCC)
Millikin 9-3 (@ Carthage, @ Elmhurst)
Carthage 7-5 (vs Millikin, @ Wheaton)
North Park 7-6 (@ IWU)

Wheaton owns the tie-breaker over IWU via the sweep of Millikin, so the Thunder can clinch it Saturday vs Elmhurst.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on February 15, 2007, 11:16:00 pm
Speaking of Al Raya- is he officiating anymore or just assigning?

While Wheaton may have it just about wrapped up, this poster is going to pull for IWU the rest of the way.
Looking at overall records- are there any thoughts on getting 2-3 teams in the NCAA's? I know the WIAC always comments on how that conference is so tough and how they get slighted by only getting one team in. I'm just curious on everyone's thoughts.......
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 15, 2007, 11:38:46 pm
I haven't looked at it terribly closely, but I think IWU is probably in pretty good shape for a pool C if they don't win the tourney, but Millikin and Wheaton would definitely be long-shots as of the last QOWI postings and given their in-region losses.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 16, 2007, 01:11:25 am
Lindsey Johnson of North Park hit two early threes, rewarding Coach Surridge for starting her on Senior Night.
Greg, I neglected to ask you after the game -- what was all that disputation with about 38 seconds to go? Something to do with the clock? Two of the three refs were discussing it at length and Jack Surridge seemed moderately interested in the issue.

The rules say that the clock has to stop after every made FG in the final minute. The dispute was over whether or not the clock had re-started in a timely fashion when Carthage inbounded the ball following Laura Mount's layup with 37 seconds left that brought NPU to within a point of the Lady Reds.

There was a lot of chaos at the end of that game; Al Raya may want to have a look at the tape.

I've been saying for years that the CCIW should mandate the presence of courtside monitors so that video evidence can be examined on the spot by the referee crew in order to guarantee that they get last-second-shot calls right. In this case, the entire seasons of two teams hinge upon the fact that Anna Mueller's buzzer-beater was waved off.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 16, 2007, 11:40:13 am
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bearsfan on February 16, 2007, 01:40:35 pm
I would say that as far as the CCIW getting more than 1 team in, it would have to involve IWU losing in the conference tournament. In order to be eligible for the Pool C bids, the team would have to be ranked in the final Central regional rankings and I would suspect that with their prior regional loses(13-5 overall with QOWI of 9.556), Wheaton would be a long shot to get into the rankings and Millikin's lose to Wheaton last night definitely hurt their chances eventhough they are close to 10 QOWI with the loss and 15-4 in region.

The top 4 (Lake Forest, UW-Stout, IWU, and Carroll) in the current rankings are in fairly solid shape and probably won't fall out barring disaster down the stretch, but the last two weeks of the UAA season features Wash U and Chicago head-to-head as well as both teams playing Rochester on the road so if either team was to drop those two games, they may very well fall out and Millikin have a chance to take the last spot if they go deep in the CCIW tourney. Especially if Chicago drops two as it would mean they would finish the season with loses in 7 of the last 9 games with them all being regional contests. I think the likely candidates for an open 6th spot would probably be Millikin or UW-Whitewater/UW-Eau Claire.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 16, 2007, 10:35:27 pm
I agree that Wheaton's chances are hurt by a slow start when Elizabeth Fox was injured. With five losses in region a sixth would make it hard for them to get a Pool C. On the other hand, it would be hard to see Millikin go as a pool C instead, given that Wheaton would have swept the season series with them (I guess there is still an outside shot that Wheaton could face Millikin in the first round of the tournament).

Wheaton has won 8 straight, including back-to-back wins against IWU and Millikin. If they win their last two regular season games, and win the conference tourney, they would be a tough out in the NCAAs.

By the way, Wheaton's semi-annual Alumni Game is tomorrow morning at 11 am. Former All-Americans Kerry Cole and Nicole Merchant are supposed to play, along with players like Rachel Horgen, Sara Kurtz, Irene Kim and others. It's usually a pretty fun time...Men's basketball coaches Owen Handy and Nate Frank are going to officiate.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 17, 2007, 12:01:33 am
bearsfan,

In terms of the last regional rankings that we will see, it is not technically true that a team must be ranked to be eligible (though, in reality, I can't recall a team making it who wasn't).  The selection committee works from a last-last regional ranking that we don't see; reportedly it is longer than the published ones just in case a region goes through all their teams.

I think Wheaton has a near-zero chance of a C (even though at this moment they are quite possibly the best team in the league), but Millikin may be on at least the low-side of the bubble.  If they keep winning right up to the tourney final, they would finish 18(?)-5 in-region with a QOWI of about 10.  That's borderline, but definitely possible.

While I certainly would not want to bet on it, the conference might even get three teams: if Millikin beats IWU in the semi, then loses in the final.  The victor (presumably Wheaton, but whoever) is the AQ, IWU would still be a fairly safe bet for a C, and Millikin at least has a shot.

But I'm only a CCIW guy once the field is set.  Until then, go Titans, even if it costs us a team or two! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 17, 2007, 01:46:36 am
IWU's best player, Mallory Heydorn, is done for the year...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/02/17/sports/doc45d66704462e8178421528.txt

What a blow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 17, 2007, 02:46:42 am
IWU's best player, Mallory Heydorn, is done for the year...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/02/17/sports/doc45d66704462e8178421528.txt

What a blow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 17, 2007, 02:56:48 am
Oops...sorry about that.  Just a little bit upset here!

What a season...Brianna Baker-Carvell out with an ACL before the start, then Christina Solari, necessitating the four-guard offense.  Mia Smith has made outstanding use of her players so far.  She (and they) have worked near-miracles so far.  Hopefully they can work a few more.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 17, 2007, 09:01:15 pm
IF Carthage loses at Wheaton, Carthage and North Park will tie for fourth at 7-7.  Since they split against each other, and each would be 0-6 against Wheaton, IWU, and Millikin and 6-0 against everyone else, and each would be 3-4 on the road and 4-5 for their last nine games, would making the tournament be based on a coin flip?  I can't find the tie-break rules on the CCIW site, but I think I covered everything prior to flipping a coin.  Anyone?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 17, 2007, 11:35:15 pm
Ypsi-There is one more before the coin flip. The final tiebreaker is point differential in head-to-head matchups. Carthage won by 3 and North Park won by 1, though it's my understanding that a three by North Park was controversily waved off at the buzzer in their win. So, here are the seeds

#1-Wheaton will play #4-Carthage at 6pm on Friday. #2-IWU (Possible tiebreak in their favor based on split with Wheaton, and Millikin losing two), will play #3-Millikin at 8pm.

Both games will be played at King Arena. The Final will be played at 2 pm on Saturday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 18, 2007, 12:24:09 am
OK, right - I just re-read Greg's postings after the second NPU-Carthage game.  He was quite prescient that NPU's whole season may have prematurely ended on an easily reviewable judgment call.

If photographic evidence surfaces that the call was in error (and these days, if such evidence exists, it WILL surface!), that would totally be a shame.  (Though the way Wheaton is playing now, either Carthage or NPU likely would only have their season extended by one game anyway, but that IS why they play the games!)

[For the record, I don't like point-differential as a tie-breaker in bball (it's fine in a low-scoring game like soccer), as it potentially penalizes sportsmanship.  Let's say you're up 5 with 10 seconds to go in the first meeting - you're gonna feel pretty stupid if you do the right thing and dribble out the clock, then your opponent wins the rematch by 6!]
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 18, 2007, 12:28:23 pm
Yesterday's North Park-IWU game was enjoyable to watch.  The Titans, playing without usual point guard Mallory Heydorn who watched with her broken hand in a cast, got off to a shaky start and North Park shot off to a 12-point lead in the first six minutes or so.  The Titans made a comeback, sparked by Claire Sheehan and Crystal Dye, to draw even and they finally pulled ahead in the last minute of the first half to take a 31-29 lead into the locker room. 

The second half featured five more ties; every time it looked as though one team had momentum the other side made a big play to pull things close again.  The final stats were as close as can be:  The Vikings shot 41.5% for the game to the Titans' 39.2%; rebounding was Vikings 32, Titans 33; free throws were Vikings 15/16, Titans 18/22.  Evie Peterson and Laura Mount both had 18 for the Vikings, while for the Titans Claire Sheehan had 18, Sarah Bull 15, and Crystal Dye 12.  Dye led all rebounders with 8.  For the Titans, Tasha Gaston-Bell did a nice job at the point and chipped in 6 points, and Becky Kiverts contributed big in the post with 8 points and 7 rebounds.

It was a strong, balanced performance for both teams as the final margin of 64-63 indicated.  Well done to both teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 18, 2007, 12:36:23 pm

[For the record, I don't like point-differential as a tie-breaker in bball (it's fine in a low-scoring game like soccer), as it potentially penalizes sportsmanship.  Let's say you're up 5 with 10 seconds to go in the first meeting - you're gonna feel pretty stupid if you do the right thing and dribble out the clock, then your opponent wins the rematch by 6!]

I agree, and I'm not sure about it in soccer either, especially at the higher levels where scoring is not so difficult.  It's no fun seeing teams run up 6-0 victories just for the sake of goal differential, but that's for another forum.

I guess in the basketball scenario, score differential is preferable to only, well, flipping a coin.  Bravo to players and coaches (and CCIW posters!) who keep these things in their heads in the last seconds of a close game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 19, 2007, 04:03:29 pm
Wheaton clinched at least a share of its third straight CCIW Championship. The seniors and Trenz have put together quite a run of success for the Thunder. Before this current group of players arrived, Wheaton had won only 3 championships, and had a string of coming up second to Millikin (and Wesleyan once) that was rather unpleasant. It will be hard to replace Fox and Cooper who have been huge contributors to the team's success.

Brittany Cooper scored her 1,000th point on Thursday and became only the second player in Wheaton College history to have at least 1,000 points, 500 rebounds, 250 assists, and 175 steals. The other was All-American Stephanie Clark (granted she scored 1,700 in her career, but pretty good company anyway.)  Those stats are courtesy of Wheaton's eminent SID Brett Marhanka.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 20, 2007, 06:15:56 am
NPU's hard-luck season drew to a close on Saturday afternoon. They put on a brave performance, but for the second year in a row they fell by one point to Illinois Wesleyan in a game that ended their season. Last year it was in the first round of the CCIW tourney, this year it was in their must-win final game of the regular season.

As soon as I read that Mallory Heydorn was hurt, I had a sinking feeling as a Vikings fan. I've all-too-often seen teams rally and push themselves to a higher level when their star is out for a crucial game. In fact, it happened to North Park last week on the men's side of things as well, as Carthage somehow managed to muster a vital win over the Vikings in spite of the fact that the Red Men's best player, Brian Schlemm, was watching the game in street clothes due to a twisted ankle.

Kudos to all five Vikings seniors -- Cassie Christensen, Alex Coleman, Lauren Martin, Laura Mount, and Anna Mueller -- for their efforts and contributions over the past few seasons. They were appreciated, and they will be missed.

Laura Mount ends her North Park career with 1,204 points, passing former teammate Shandrel Young in Saturday's game in Bloomington. That puts her fifth on NPU's all-time scoring leaderboard, trailing Rachel Pearson Bernero (1,784), Terry Haller (1,515), Barb Dunn (1,489), and Andrea Mendyk (1,224). Not bad company for a player in a slowdown, defense-oriented program who was teammates for three years with a couple of other members of the Thousand Point Club. Congratulations to Laura!

Congratulations as well to NPU junior forward Evie Peterson, whose 2-2 performance from the line against Illinois Wesleyan on Saturday put her at .902 (47-52) from the charity stripe in CCIW play this season. She thus breaks the all-time CCIW single-season record for FT percentage previously held by Carthage's Jenny Olson, who set the old record of .900 back in 2000-01.

In fact, North Park's .802 (210-262) team FT percentage is a new CCIW single-season record as well. It breaks the old record of .782 (214-274) set last season by Illinois Wesleyan.

Ypsi-There is one more before the coin flip. The final tiebreaker is point differential in head-to-head matchups. Carthage won by 3 and North Park won by 1, though it's my understanding that a three by North Park was controversily waved off at the buzzer in their win.

No, Anna Mueller's buzzer shot was only a two-pointer. The point differential between Carthage and NPU would've been tied if her shot had counted.

OK, right - I just re-read Greg's postings after the second NPU-Carthage game.  He was quite prescient that NPU's whole season may have prematurely ended on an easily reviewable judgment call.

If photographic evidence surfaces that the call was in error (and these days, if such evidence exists, it WILL surface!), that would totally be a shame.  (Though the way Wheaton is playing now, either Carthage or NPU likely would only have their season extended by one game anyway, but that IS why they play the games!)

I don't agree at all, Chuck. Wheaton beat NPU by three both times that the two teams met this season. In both games, NPU had a trey attempt at the buzzer that would've sent the game into OT if it had gone in (Laura Mount attempted it at King Arena, Lauren Martin attempted it at the crackerbox).

Wheaton was indeed the hottest team in the league at the end of the season, but discounting the Vikings' chances in a theoretical third game between the two teams would not only be presumptuous, it flies in the face of the available evidence in terms of the two previous contests.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 20, 2007, 07:10:20 am
So, it still would have come down to the coin flip.

North Park always plays Wheaton tough, so you are probably right, it would have been a close game.

Wheaton now has to play Carthage tonight to get the championship outright, and to keep any hope of a Pool C alive (not much hope). Then they will play them again on Friday. This is the same scenario as last season. I was worried last year about seeing the same team twice, but Wheaton started playing really great basketball which lasted into the NCAAs. They are showing signs of that kind of play recently, but the Elmhurst game was a little ugly.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 20, 2007, 07:39:15 am
IWU is still 32nd in the QoWi, so if they lose this weekend they should still have a good chance to get a at-large bid. Especially if they beat Millikin on Friday and lose to Wheaton. Millikin is 60th and Wheaton is 68th. Both of those teams cannot improve their ratings much unless they keep winning, which would mean they don't need the QoWi in order to get in.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 20, 2007, 07:49:04 am
So, it still would have come down to the coin flip.

Right, but if Mueller's shot had been a trey (as you originally stated) and it had counted, North Park would've ended up with a one-point advantage in point differential vs. Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 20, 2007, 06:15:29 pm
Yeah, sorry about that, I must have heard a many-retold version of the story, which didn't include the coin toss. So, I had assumed the three pointer. Too bad for North Park; they have had a few good years in a row now, but can't quite get over the hump. Mount has been a great player and it has to stink to have your career end on that kind of play. There's really no way fair way to say who is better among two teams who split regular season games and finished with the same record (pending tonight).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 20, 2007, 06:51:43 pm
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Post by: Illinihoops4 on February 20, 2007, 11:24:59 pm
There are several fine players that deserve recognition around the conference. I think you've got the right question though- where do they all fit?!!?!?  ???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bearsfan on February 21, 2007, 09:30:51 am
So any thoughts on if IWU will be left out of the tourney field now? Their loss last night to North Central could sow their fate IMO. The loss of Heydorn would already play on the committee's mind after their near loss to North Park but the loss to North Central might sway the committee to leave them out for feeling they may not be as competitive without Heydorn. I haven't seen them play since the early win vs DePauw but I would guess they are struggling a little minus Heydorn though they definitely looked good early in the season. If they lose in the opening round, I think they may miss the tournament as their QOWI fell to 10.000 with the loss last night and would slid futher with any loss. Any other opinions?

I think IWU's loss could definitely be Milikin's gain though and might still allow for two to get in if Wheaton captures the tournament championship by beating Millikin in the finals. With UW Whitewater losing in their opening round of the WIAC and Chicago's late season slide (even with a win at Wash U Sat they would be 3-6 in their last nine games), Millikin is in a good position now for a Pool C IMO.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 21, 2007, 07:16:49 pm
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Post by: RogK on February 22, 2007, 11:40:14 am
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Post by: RogK on February 22, 2007, 01:04:07 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 22, 2007, 07:11:26 pm
RogK-My understanding is that the meeting happens before the Tournament, at least it did last year. Either way, it is "officially" based on conference-only stats, which the tourney is not considered to be a part of. I would doubt the Tuesday meeting, because that will be in the middle of preparation for one or two teams to play NCAA games.

I know that last year Heidi Harnisch was already named PoY before the tourney began.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 23, 2007, 03:34:06 pm
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Post by: diehardfan on February 23, 2007, 06:35:10 pm
CCIW Women's All Conference Team is posted:

http://www.cciw.org/winter_bball_w/06_07_WBBallconf.htm

Congrats to Lindsay Ippel of Millikin for the MOP nod! Congrats also to Wheaton's Beth Baker for her COY nod and for the four Wheaton players on the various all Conference teams!

Lets get er done tonight in King Arena! :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: buf on February 23, 2007, 08:55:05 pm
Wheaton wins a close one over Carthage
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 23, 2007, 11:51:19 pm
The largest crowd of the women's season was there for the Carthage-Wheaton game. It was very loud and boisterous. Wheaton went scoreless from 11:05 to 4:03 and didn't make a single field goal inside the three-point arc in the second half. With about 2 minutes to play, and the score tied 47-47, Elizabeth Fox decided to take over the game. She got a steal, made a three, got a defensive rebound and hit two free throws (the last being the 1000th point of her career) and gave Wheaton a 5 point lead which they held, despite missing three free throws in the final minute.

It was good to see Fox take over the game. I think that Wheaton will go as far as Fox can take them. Teams are zoning Trenz and Wheaton has gone through long periods where they cannot find another scoring threat, because Trenz and the driving lanes for Fox and Cooper are being taken away.

Trenz only had 3 points, but she blocked 8 shots. Ippel is an amazing offensive player, but maybe they should split the POY award into Offensive and Defensive Players of the Year, because Trenz is a dominate defender in the paint.

It will be an interesting Final as IWU pressed or was being pressed for 40 minutes tonight against Millikin. Bull had a great shooting night.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 24, 2007, 12:42:11 am
Fidelia was big as well for Wheaton. She had 7 points down the stretch to help keep Wheaton in the game, and then after Fox's burst, to keep them in the lead.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 24, 2007, 09:19:58 am
Last night, IWU's Mallory Heydorn was going to give it a go with her new cast, but the conference tournament officials told IWU that Mallory's cast was a danger to other players.  I've never heard of that before...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/02/24/sports/doc45dfc844d5d5b674830896.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 24, 2007, 09:22:42 am
I am surprised that IWU's Sarah Bull, who finished 10th in league scoring (13.1 ppg), didn't make the All-CCIW squad.  She had 19 & 6 last night...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2007/wcciw2.htm
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 24, 2007, 10:38:05 am
It should be noted that the score in the Pantagraph article is incorrect--the writer transposed digits in Millikin's score.  The correct score was 83-67.  Millikin played tough, but the Titans were on fire at both ends of the court.

Great team effort for the Titans last night, with all five starters in double figures.  Everyone was expecting Heydorn to start until about 10 minutes before game time.  It was a strange decision on the referee's part.  Earlier in the season an Elmhurst player was allowed to play with a much more substantial cast on her arm. 

In the end, the way it played out was probably the best for the Titans:  no one thought about Mallory not playing for very long, and by winning big without her, they should have gotten a big confidence boost.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 24, 2007, 11:31:45 am
Congratulations to NPU's two All-CCIW players: Senior guard Laura Mount (first team) and junior forward Evie Peterson (second team)!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 24, 2007, 01:18:33 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on February 24, 2007, 02:50:57 pm
Did Heydorn have a plaster cast on or a rubberized? The difference between the two is incredible. It's a shame she was not allowed to play though. It's a tough call for the officials to make.

Congrats to all who made the all-conference teams and to Coach Baker as well.

Best of luck to both teams today!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Matson on February 24, 2007, 04:58:14 pm
Wheaton women defeated Illinois Wesleyan 54-49 to grab the conference AQ.  The women also won the CCIW title.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 24, 2007, 05:05:29 pm
By my calculations IWU will have a 10.083 QOWI and .833 in-region winning %.  They should be pretty safe for a pool C.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 24, 2007, 05:32:58 pm
I would expect to see Illinois Wesleyan in the tourney. Sarah Bull had a great game and probably made a few coaches reconsider why they didn't put her on the all-conference team.

Elizabeth Fox and Kathleen Fidelia were the stars for Wheaton, but Wheaton continues to suffer from scoring droughts that endanger their chances of staying with or ahead of other teams. Also, Wheaton was uncharacteristically terrible from the free throw line today, shooting 4-14 and were 1-12 until they made their last 3.

Wheaton has had a great three year run. They have won the conference three straight years and the tournament for two straight.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 24, 2007, 10:02:21 pm
Mallory Heydorn's "cast" was more tape than anything else.  It is definitely not a hard cast.  It's hard to see how Greg Oden has played the entire year for NCAA-officiated Ohio State with (apparently) far more material on his hand than Mallory has.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on February 24, 2007, 10:17:44 pm
If it was tape then that's quite unfair. It also goes to show the difference in men's & women's, DI & DIII, and officials period. Unless it's a hard cast, or there was something under that tape that could cause harm, I'm not sure what the issue was. It's no different than a knee brace. Those can do some nasty damage as well......

With any luck, we'll hear IWU's name called tomorrow and perhaps with a different team of officials we'll see her on the court another time this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 25, 2007, 09:19:41 am
Just one more observation about the decision to keep Mallory Heydorn out of the games:  the protective material was on the inner part of her hand, around the thumb and index finger.  Just how much could another player be hurt by it in that position?  If it were on the outer part of the hand I could see it, perhaps, but not in this position. 

Wheaton definitely deserved the win over the IWU team that was on the floor.  Elizabeth Fox and Kathleen Fidelia were indeed the stars.  Fidelia's shooting and her excellent defense on Claire Sheehan may have made the difference.  Both teams did look tired and they both blew some excellent chances; fatigue was almost certainly a factor on both sides.

Congratulations to Wheaton, and good luck in the NCAAs.  I hope that the NCAA powers that be will see fit to put IWU in.  If not, the bright news is that all of this year's IWU players are back next year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 25, 2007, 02:51:09 pm
Here are the teams with QoWI over 10 who don't have a Pool A bid.

Overall   QOWI   Rk in reg   Team   Region Win%   Overall
5   11.320   1   New York University   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
9   11.000   3   Rochester   0.800 (20-5)   20-5
13   10.773   5   Williams   0.773 (17-5)   20-6
18   10.667   4   St. Lawrence   0.917 (22-2)   24-3
19   10.654   6   Maine Maritime   0.885 (23-3)   25-3
23   10.577   1   Howard Payne   0.962 (25-1)   26-1
26   10.550   4   Calvin   0.950 (19-1)   25-2
28   10.478   8   Brandeis   0.783 (18-5)   19-5
29   10.462   9   Norwich   0.885 (23-3)   24-3
31   10.440   5   Carroll   0.840 (21-4)   21-4
32   10.423   2   McMurry   0.885 (23-3)   24-3
36   10.333   3   Puget Sound   0.810 (17-4)   21-6
38   10.261   6   UW-Whitewater   0.739 (17-6)   19-7
39   10.160   10   Salve Regina   0.840 (21-4)   22-6
41   10.125   3   Oglethorpe   0.833 (20-4)   21-6
42   10.125   7   Transylvania   0.750 (18-6)   19-8
43   10.120   4   William Paterson   0.840 (21-4)   22-5
45   10.083   7   Illinois Wesleyan   0.833 (20-4)   22-5
46   10.045   6   Simpson   0.773 (17-5)   21-6
47   10.042   11   Tufts   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
48   10.040   5   Dickinson   0.840 (21-4)   22-4
49   10.038   12   Keene State   0.769 (20-6)   21-6
50   10.000   6   Oswego State   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
51   10.000   4   Randolph-Macon   0.880 (22-3)   23-4
52   10.000   7   Gustavus Adolphus   0.846 (22-4)   22-5
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 25, 2007, 02:54:47 pm
Illinois Wesleyan is 19th on the list, and are tied for 15th in region winning percentage among these teams. Also, they have wins against Depauw and Wheaton (overall 2-2) who are in the tournament.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 25, 2007, 04:25:51 pm
Illinois Wesleyan is 19th on the list, and are tied for 15th in region winning percentage among these teams. Also, they have wins against Depauw and Wheaton (overall 2-2) who are in the tournament.

As noted on the pool C board, Lake Forest, St. Lawrence, and either Howard Payne or McMurry will all be AQs, so IWU is actually 3 slots higher.  I'd say they are now pretty safe! :)

EDIT:  Making them even more safe, Oglethorpe and Tufts both lost today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 25, 2007, 04:36:26 pm
Good news, bad news:

Just checked d3hoops.com's projections:  IWU is safely in (no where near the bottom of projected Cs).   The bad news?  They project them playing their first game at defending national champion Hope!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 25, 2007, 05:21:27 pm
Ypsi,

I saw that, and I see where you get the projected matchup with Hope.  But why would IWU be seeded above Wheaton?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 25, 2007, 05:26:30 pm
Ypsi,

I saw that, and I see where you get the projected matchup with Hope.  But why would IWU be seeded above Wheaton?

Despite Wheaton's late-season hot streak and IWU's slump since Mallory got hurt, IWU is still ahead of Wheaton in both QOWI and regional winning %.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 25, 2007, 05:44:03 pm
Yet they have lost to them twice in a row.

Ypsi- Thanks for updating the list for me. It was a rush job, and I cut out Lake Forest, but didn't get the others.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 25, 2007, 07:20:33 pm
Yet they have lost to them twice in a row.

Ypsi- Thanks for updating the list for me. It was a rush job, and I cut out Lake Forest, but didn't get the others.

I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see Wheaton pass IWU in the next poll, but that is not how the selection criteria work - results in December are just as meaningful as results in the last six games.

Thanks for the thanks, but that was actually Ralph who caught those AQ teams - I just brought the corrections over to this board.

Here's hoping d3hoop's is right on the C bid (I'm quite confident they are), but wrong on the first round opponent!  I'd like a fully healthy Mallory Heydorn before we take on a team that tough!  Would anyone who saw the title game want to speculate on whether her presence would have tipped the balance?  (It's all for the better - if IWU had won, Wheaton's chances of a C were essentially nil.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 25, 2007, 09:11:57 pm
Here's hoping d3hoop's is right on the C bid (I'm quite confident they are), but wrong on the first round opponent!  I'd like a fully healthy Mallory Heydorn before we take on a team that tough!  Would anyone who saw the title game want to speculate on whether her presence would have tipped the balance?  (It's all for the better - if IWU had won, Wheaton's chances of a C were essentially nil.)

Thanks for answering my question earlier.  I have never really tried to read the tea leaves before, and it is very confusing!

With regard to your question...of course, it's impossible to say with certainty that IWU would have won with Heydorn in the lineup.  I'd be more inclined to speculate that the loss at North Central might not have happened.  The other Titans did a good job of covering the point in both tournament games; Tasha Gaston-Bell was the primary point, with others spelling her for rests.  But the loss of a team's leader, captain, and leading scorer has to make a difference of at least a few points, and the championship game was down to a four-point margin with four minutes to go.  So I think the Titans would have had a much better chance with Heydorn playing.  That said, all credit to Wheaton for executing down the stretch.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 25, 2007, 10:28:54 pm
IWU is in. Good to see two teams coming from the CCIW. Too bad for Elmhurst on the men's side. Now we just have to wait for the seeding.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 26, 2007, 01:16:31 pm
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 26, 2007, 02:10:55 pm
Circumstantial evidence suggests that Beth Baker used telepathy Saturday to instruct IWU to stop passing the ball to Sarah Bull (who was hot from the arc and was wide open for a three several times in transition) and instead take it inside and try to get Jill Trenz in foul trouble. All Trenz did was pick up 3 steals and 6 blocks.

That wasn't all Trenz did, Reg--she picked up 4 fouls.  Sarah Bull passing up open threes is never a good thing for IWU, however, especially against a taller team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 27, 2007, 08:58:09 am
The IWU--Carroll game on Friday will be broadcast over the Internet at

 http://www.wjbc2.com/

The site has a note that NCAA tournament games will not be archived, so listening live is the only way to hear it.  The broadcast begins at 5:55 CST.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 27, 2007, 09:37:07 am
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Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 27, 2007, 06:06:27 pm
Circumstantial evidence suggests that Beth Baker used telepathy Saturday to instruct IWU to stop passing the ball to Sarah Bull (who was hot from the arc and was wide open for a three several times in transition) and instead take it inside and try to get Jill Trenz in foul trouble. All Trenz did was pick up 3 steals and 6 blocks.

That wasn't all Trenz did, Reg--she picked up 4 fouls.  Sarah Bull passing up open threes is never a good thing for IWU, however, especially against a taller team.

And, 11 points, 9 rebounds and 6 assists.

By the way, despite having 289 career blocks, she has only fouled out 9 times in three seasons.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 27, 2007, 07:07:59 pm
Mallory Heydorn will give it a go this weekend...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/02/27/sports/123871.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 27, 2007, 07:10:50 pm
I don't think I ever implied that Trenz didn't block the shots--she had a fine game.  I remember some other Wheaton blocked shots as well.  As I said at the time, Wheaton deserved the win.

How about moving on to the NCAA tournament?  How does Wheaton's bracket look?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: blazerball on February 27, 2007, 10:37:35 pm
I'm a CSB fan visiting over here and thought I would say hello to the Wheaton fans since we will be facing off on Friday.  I don't know much about your squad other than what I can see from the Web site. 

I know Simpson pretty well because CSB has played them in the NCAA tourney each of the last two years.  I saw Stout in the tourney last year and they have a monster in the middle in Duoss.  Both Stout and Simpson like to run...a lot...so it should be a track meet between those two teams.  Can anyone tell me anything about Wheaton and what to expect from them?  Looking forward to the dance on Friday night!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 01, 2007, 09:28:05 am
Here's a link to tournament information on the IWU website:

http://www2.iwu.edu/womenssports/wbasketball/07ncaa_tourney.shtml

Good luck to both the Thunder and the Titans, and safe travel to all.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 01, 2007, 11:41:29 am
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Post by: diehardfan on March 01, 2007, 02:22:19 pm
Mallory Heydorn will give it a go this weekend...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/02/27/sports/123871.txt
I was glad to hear this. I hate it when a team has to go into the tourney at less than full strength. Leaves too many "what ifs" on a season.

And with the games about to start.... good luck to the CCIW women in the tournament! But especially Wheaton. ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 02, 2007, 06:58:14 pm
Carroll vs. IL Wesleyan on deck:
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 02, 2007, 07:16:14 pm
Carroll up 18-15 on IL Wesleyan:  Titan's Bull has 3 fouls already. Around 10 minutes left in 1st half.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 02, 2007, 07:35:48 pm
Halftime:  Carroll 38, IL Wesleyan 32. Titans' Bull still has 3 fouls. Pioneers' Hoewisch and Wickert and Titans' Heydorn having good scoring games thus far. Carroll hit two 3's in the first half.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Collegeville Magic on March 02, 2007, 07:56:35 pm
From a Blazer fan to Thunder fans, WOW.  We're now headed to double overtime...

Wheaton has had the benefit of pretty much every key call near the end of both regulation and overtime, from the sounds of it.  Great game all around, we'll see what happens in the SECOND OT...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 02, 2007, 08:10:00 pm
Just shy of 11 minutes left:  Carroll up by 24 on IL Wesleyan.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 02, 2007, 08:29:08 pm
Carroll 86, IL Wesleyan 59. Final.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: diehardfan on March 02, 2007, 08:40:28 pm
We won! Woo! Double Overtime! Go Thunder Roooolllll.... :)

WLCAlum: So basically, the CCIW doesn't like Carroll very much? LOL. Did Mallory Heydorn play and get good minutes? ???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 02, 2007, 08:45:48 pm
Mallory played and scored 19 points.  She hit, I believe, the only three of the game for the Titans, which tells you something about the way their game went.  She couldn't have made the difference at 100%--the Pioneers were the better team tonight.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: diehardfan on March 02, 2007, 08:55:45 pm
Mallory played and scored 19 points.  She hit, I believe, the only three of the game for the Titans, which tells you something about the way their game went.  She couldn't have made the difference at 100%--the Pioneers were the better team tonight.
With as many guards as they play... yah...  :o
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Collegeville Magic on March 02, 2007, 08:59:58 pm
Congrats to the Thunder on a win for the ages!  Back and forth like a classic tournament game, and enough heart-stopping game-deciding plays to fill 5 highlight tapes.

I'm bummed that my Blazers didn't come out on top, but neither team deserved to lose a game like this one, and it's a shame that so many strong teams ended up in one corner of the bracket!

Good luck to Wheaton tomorrow against Stout, I'm a Thunder fan til the run is over!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 02, 2007, 09:04:06 pm
Congratulations to the Thunder on pulling out the close win, and good luck tomorrow!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 02, 2007, 09:09:20 pm
We won! Woo! Double Overtime! Go Thunder Roooolllll.... :)

WLCAlum: So basically, the CCIW doesn't like Carroll very much? LOL. Did Mallory Heydorn play and get good minutes? ???

Yes, she played for most of the game. She and Sara Bull didn't really get untracked. Bull got in early foul trouble, played only 11 minutes in the first half. Carroll's Wickert and Hoewisch both had a field day scoring.

No matter who wins the second game, there are going to be some interesting front-line match-ups tomorrow night.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Matson on March 02, 2007, 10:27:36 pm
Wheaton sent the game into the 1st OT on a trey with 33 seconds remaining.  Wheaton then hit another trey at the buzzer to send the game into the second OT.  In the second OT, Wheaton took the game in a more conventional fashion.

Wheaton was the 4th seed in this opening weekend and will have an excellent chance to move on against Simpson tomorrow.  Wheaton is playing well right now.

I was surprised by the Wesleyan score.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 02, 2007, 11:08:39 pm
Wheaton will play Simpson College tomorrow, after they defeated Stout 91-86.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 02, 2007, 11:35:47 pm
Did anyone notice that the two teams in tomorrow's game at Stout are the Storm and the Thunder?
 
That's the kind of amazing breakdown you only get from me! :)

Actually, it should be an interesting game. From my understanding Simpson likes to run and gun. Wheaton's not against running, but I guarantee they aren't planning on giving up much more than 70 points (in regulation at least), nevermind 91. They did give up 81 to Olivet Nazerene (still a win), but that was when Elizabeth Fox was still injured.

Should be a good game. Wonder what kind of crowd will be there?
 
 
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 03, 2007, 12:38:08 am
Carroll was a member of the CCIW from 1956-92.  They left after only 6 years of the women being a sponsored varsity sport, but did quite respectably.  While they won no titles, their 62-34 record (.646) is third all-time (behind Millikin and Wheaton).  Such was not the case in men's bball, where their 187-364 record (.339) was the lowest of any current or former member by a sizable margin.

I guess knocking two of our three post-season reps out within 24 hours of each other is a bit of belated revenge! :(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: buf on March 03, 2007, 12:42:03 am
Wheaton over St. Bens in 2-OT

Close game all the way.  CSB did a good job of getting the ball inside and finishing.  Boone was nearly unstoppable, using her size as an advantage.  On the other hand, Wheaton shot pretty decent from the outside and also scored on the inside.  CSB takes a 57-50 lead with less than 2min left, but Wheaton goes on a 7-0 run to take it to OT.  In the OT, Wheaton shoots a 3 and misses but the ball bounces right to another Wheaton player standing at the 3 pt line.  The CSB player guarding her falls down and she hits a 3 just as the buzzer sounds to send it to 2-OT.  Wheaton does a good job of hitting FTs down the stretch.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 03, 2007, 12:01:38 pm
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 03, 2007, 01:40:25 pm
The Pantagraph's story on the IWU/Carroll game is here:
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/03/sports/doc45e8f8922788b617291194.txt

After the game, Mia Smith was straightforward on the radio.  She said that the tapes showed Carroll very accurately, she thought they had a good game plan for both offense and defense, and the team just wasn't able to execute as they needed to.  She is proud of this team and what they accomplished this season, and is looking forward to next year with some new recruits.

So, while the rest of the CCIW turns to thoughts of baseball, golf, and gardening, it's up to the Wheaton ladies!  The matchup tonight sounds like an interesting one.  Good luck!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: diehardfan on March 03, 2007, 04:30:58 pm
Some great pics of the St. Ben vs Wheaton game up on the d3hoops.com picture site. Here are my favs thus far...

http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=1658&photo=0172
http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=1658&photo=0204
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: buf on March 03, 2007, 09:37:17 pm
Simpson over Wheaton 81-58.  Big 2nd half for Simpson
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: diehardfan on March 03, 2007, 09:56:04 pm
Congrats to the Wheaton ladies on a great season. :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: strikingviking on March 06, 2007, 11:31:42 pm
I would also like to congratulate Wheaton IWU on great seasons, you have so much to be proud of!!  Unfortunately though, I don't think the rest of the conference prepared them for their first round oppenents (other than Millikan,NP , and a well-coached Carthage team).  Whats up with Augie and North Central????   How can North Central be so bad in women's hoops when they are good in almost every sport?  Is their scholarships not as good as their men's.....could be a title IX issue????  Augie used to be one the best teams and now they can hardly find someone on their schedule that they can beat.  They have won a grand total of 15 games the past three years.  I would think that when the program hits rock bottom, they would try to work a little harder to bring in a qualified coach to turn the ship around.  You can't tell me that if the men's job opened up, they would hire someone with so little experience! 

We need to do whatever we can to strengthen the bottom teams in the league so that next year we have someone in the sweet 16!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2007, 01:11:34 am
Women's bball got a very late start in the CCIW (1986?), and we've never been a 'power conference' like with the men.  For years it was Millikin on top, with Wheaton in close pursuit, but no one else a real threat.  IWU seems to have joined the club (knock on wood that it continues!) and North Park is certainly showing signs of life.  Carthage seems to be getting there, and NCC beat IWU with Mallory Heydorn injured (until VERY recently, no one would have beaten a top team even with a key injury). 

I think that the CCIW women are definitely moving in the right direction - we'll know we've reached it when the top teams are still nationally ranked (and a serious threat in the tournament), yet things like #8 Millikin beating #2 Elmhust, or #7 IWU taking #1 Augie to the final buzzer both games are perhaps eyebrow raisers, but no big shock!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 07, 2007, 01:34:18 am
I would also like to congratulate Wheaton IWU on great seasons, you have so much to be proud of!!  Unfortunately though, I don't think the rest of the conference prepared them for their first round oppenents (other than Millikan,NP , and a well-coached Carthage team).  Whats up with Augie and North Central????   How can North Central be so bad in women's hoops when they are good in almost every sport?  Is their scholarships not as good as their men's.....could be a title IX issue????  Augie used to be one the best teams and now they can hardly find someone on their schedule that they can beat.  They have won a grand total of 15 games the past three years.  I would think that when the program hits rock bottom, they would try to work a little harder to bring in a qualified coach to turn the ship around.  You can't tell me that if the men's job opened up, they would hire someone with so little experience! 

We need to do whatever we can to strengthen the bottom teams in the league so that next year we have someone in the sweet 16!

That's a little unfair to the North Central women's basketball program. NCC had ranged between 5-9 and 8-6 for eight seasons in a row prior to this one. That's not bad; that's mediocre. There's a difference. Plus, there are several sports in which NCC characteristically performs worse than in women's basketball. Take soccer, for instance: Neither the men's team nor the women's team won as much as a single match in CCIW play this fall.

It's also a little unfair to lambaste Augustana's Bobbi Endress after only one season. You don't turn around a rock-bottom program in one year. The usual rule of thumb is that a head coach gets four years to make progress in reversing a program's fortunes.

You speak of Wheaton and Illinois Wesleyan not being properly prepared for the tournament by CCIW competition except for when they played Millikin, NPU, and Carthage ... but that's half of the rest of the league right there! As Mr. Ypsi said, the CCIW is not a power conference in women's basketball ... but I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of leagues that are worse. In fact, the Massey Ratings list the CCIW as 11th out of 42 D3 conferences.

Also ...

Is their scholarships not as good as their men's.....could be a title IX issue????

There are no athletic scholarships in D3.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on March 07, 2007, 08:23:48 pm
strikingviking, there's a lot of criticsm coming from a poster who seems to be lacking some information regarding D3 athletics.

North Central's roster was rather thin this season- many players left and many were dismissed from the team. Many coaches are willing to take risks to make the necessary changes in there programs. I think she's one of them and with a solid recruiting class, they'll improve.

Augie used to be one of the best teams. Do you realize that it's been 5-6 years since they've had a winning conference season? That's not the current coach's fault. Did you know that the majority of her kids were not going to return this season? Did you know that none of the kids on this squad are her's? Give her a recruiting class or two. You can't put the blame for what the previous coach didn't do on her. As far as experience goes, she's already taken a team to the NCAA tournament- one that was a below .500 team when she took over. Not all coaches can say they've been there. It'll take time, but no one is going from worst to first in this league.

I agree with Mr. Ypsi. The CCIW women are moving in the right direction. We've got dedicated coaches at all schools and they are working very hard to improve their squads. I give them credit. It's a time consuming occupation and you really have to love what you do to put up with all the headaches that come with it at times.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 08, 2007, 12:16:48 am
I think it's evidence of the importance of stability. Kerans and Baker both started coaching the year the league opened and they are still there now (sure some of that is because of their success; chicken or egg?) Elmhurst hired Semper in the midst of a 5-year run that earned a total of 3 conference wins, but they stuck with her and in her fourth season she got them to 6-8 and then 7-7. Mia Smith has been at IWU for a number of years and that stability has been helping improve that program.

My understanding is the Bauer cleaned house last season and I respect her desire to establish the kind of program she wants. Finally, I was actually impressed with the growth of Augustana this season, and Endress was very successful at Edgewood. You could see a much more positive attitude and commitment to defensive effort even when they were playing much more talented teams.

I think the conference is improving and mostly because of the improved quality and long tenure of the coaches.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 08, 2007, 11:52:17 am
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 08, 2007, 12:08:13 pm
I can't speak for the other teams, but IWU's talent level is definitely improving.  Were it not for the two ACL injuries to key post players this year, they would have been much more versatile.  The Titans have always had a few good players plus some role players, but the number of really good players is increasing.

Millikin, obviously, was stronger with the national championship team a couple of years ago.  North Central and Augie are each in their own way rebuilding;  I thought strikingviking's criticism of Coach Endress was particularly unfair in her first year.

It's definitely true that the CCIW women's conference is not quite at the same level as the men, but Greg's quote of their Massey rating (11 out of 42) is interesting. It's higher than I would have thought.
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Post by: strikingviking on March 08, 2007, 01:00:26 pm
Whoa Whoa Whoa!  I am new to this site (per a friend) and I wasn't trying to question Coach Endress's ability.  Sorry if it seemed that way.  I was just trying to figure out why a program like Augustana who has a D1 ex head coach on the men's side (per their website), hired someone with not as much experience. 

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As far as experience goes, she's already taken a team to the NCAA tournament- one that was a below .500 team when she took over.

I was just wondering how many players she lost off the Edgewood team that went to the tournament? Since they had a down year afterwards in her second year.

Did she coach somewhere prior to Edgewood, maybe I am missing something??? :-\  Sorry if I am.



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My understanding is the Bauer (North Central) cleaned house last season and I respect her desire to establish the kind of program she wants.

How many years has she been there?  I may be wrong but wouldn't those kids be her own recruits that she brought in????


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You don't turn around a rock-bottom program in one year. The usual rule of thumb is that a head coach gets four years to make progress in reversing a program's fortunes.

Note to North Central's AD:  TIME IS UP!!


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 08, 2007, 01:46:36 pm
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Post by: Fawkes316 on March 08, 2007, 07:04:45 pm
Strikingviking-I don't understand the connection between Sager's comment that you can't turn a bad program around in a year, and your comment to the North Central AD. Personally, I have a hard time with fans, however knowledgable, who call for a coach's job, which is how I interpret the "times up" comment.

Before this season, Emily Bauer was the most successful coach, by winning percentage, that North Central has had since Wayne Morgan coached them to a National Championship in the early 1980s. As I mentioned before, it's my understanding that she saw something she didn't like in her players, granted ones that she recruited, and decided that she needed to be clear about the standards of her program.

I think that firing or doing something to weaken Coach Bauer would be the worst thing that the North Central AD could do.

RogK-I agree that talent was down slightly this year, but I think that the overall trend has been upwards across the league since a real downturn in the first couple of years of this decade. The teams at the bottom are much more competitive than they used to be, with the exception of Augustana, and I think that they are preparing to make a comeback in the conference.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 09, 2007, 01:18:02 pm
Do any of you IWU fans know for sure that Brianna Baker-Carvell and Crystal Dye are returning next year? It would be based on redshirting, I guess. Was Dye a freshman in '03-'04 ? -- can't recall.


Rog,

Brianna Baker-Carvell is not returning next year, but Crystal Dye will be back.  She was a medical redshirt (both ACLs). 

Strikingviking, welcome.  You got some lively conversation going at a time when I thought we'd all be drifting off into other areas of cyberspace.  It's an interesting phenomenon that the programs that are strong in men's sports and in women's sports are not always at the same school--just look at basketball in the Big Ten. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on March 10, 2007, 06:18:33 pm
With Dye returning and a hopefully a couple post recruits, I think IWU could have another impressive season next year. I'm sure that Solari will be returning (anyone know for sure?) and with that comes rebounds. I did see her play a couple of games in high school, but I too was quite impressed with the statistics that I saw on her for those first couple of games. She'll be a force if she comes back at 100%.

Does anyone have any recruiting news from around the conference? In terms of DIII it may still be a couple weeks early as I know many kids are waiting for their financial aid packages and $$$ is always a factor.

Greg- where are those Massey rankings posted? I'm curious as to where the WIAC and the IIAC sit  on it.
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 10, 2007, 09:23:27 pm
Solari was shooting today at Shirk and moving well.  Of course, there's a lot of rehab still to be done, but I am sure she's planning on being back.  I think it is a bit early yet to for anything to be settled for most recruits.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 12, 2007, 01:32:40 am
Do any of you IWU fans know for sure that Brianna Baker-Carvell and Crystal Dye are returning next year? It would be based on redshirting, I guess. Was Dye a freshman in '03-'04 ? -- can't recall.


Rog,

Brianna Baker-Carvell is not returning next year, but Crystal Dye will be back.  She was a medical redshirt (both ACLs). 

Strikingviking, welcome.  You got some lively conversation going at a time when I thought we'd all be drifting off into other areas of cyberspace.  It's an interesting phenomenon that the programs that are strong in men's sports and in women's sports are not always at the same school--just look at basketball in the Big Ten. 

Men's basketball and women's basketball are two completely different sports, and not just in name only. Don't be fooled by the fact that they both involve teams of five trying to put an oversized orange ball through an orange metal hoop. Women's sports and men's sports in general have a lot of differences on the D3 level, starting with the way in which players are recruited, and those differences carry right through to even those sports that parallel each other.

It's really no surprise at all that basketball success varies from one gender to the next at a single school, any more than it should surprise anyone that a school's football team can be successful while the baseball team struggles. So much of it all comes down to the coach.

Greg- where are those Massey rankings posted? I'm curious as to where the WIAC and the IIAC sit  on it.

The WIAC is third and the IIAC is eighth.

http://www.masseyratings.com/index.htm
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2007, 02:08:52 am
The WIAC is fourth and IIAC is fifth -- the ratings that use Margin of Victory seem more reliable. (The lack of MOV is thanks to the BCS requirements on football rankings. Never want to use a BCS ranking if you can avoid it!)

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cbw&sub=III&mid=1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 12, 2007, 07:17:32 am
Thanks, Pat. I was looking at the wrong page. I always prefer to use the MOV ratings on Massey over the unsweetened variety. ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 12, 2007, 08:16:36 am
[It's really no surprise at all that basketball success varies from one gender to the next at a single school, any more than it should surprise anyone that a school's football team can be successful while the baseball team struggles. So much of it all comes down to the coach.


Greg,

You and I are in agreement  I was responding to strikingviking's expressed surprise at the difference in level between Augustana's men's and women's program.  I am well aware that the two sports are different.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 13, 2007, 12:30:44 am
I can see why someone would express surprise that Augustana's women's basketball program has struggled, because Augie has always been the one school in this conference that has had more across-the-board success in athletics than have any of the other members. That makes it particularly difficult for the coaches in the few sports in which Augie has struggled.

But no matter how far behind the rest of Augie's various programs the women's basketball team currently lags, Bobbi Endress is still entitled to a fair length of tenure for her to attempt to turn the women's basketball program around.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 13, 2007, 01:02:26 am
Men's basketball and women's basketball are two completely different sports, and not just in name only. Don't be fooled by the fact that they both involve teams of five trying to put an oversized orange ball through an orange metal hoop. Women's sports and men's sports in general have a lot of differences on the D3 level, starting with the way in which players are recruited, and those differences carry right through to even those sports that parallel each other.

It's really no surprise at all that basketball success varies from one gender to the next at a single school, any more than it should surprise anyone that a school's football team can be successful while the baseball team struggles. So much of it all comes down to the coach.



Except that a school's commitment to athletics is generally seen across the board. In years past there have been Athletic Departments that have decided to let their programs languish, in favor of a more preferred sport (sometimes for reasons I couldn't comprehend).

I don't see that happening right now. From a conference perspective the league seems to be making an effort to be nationally competitive in both men's and women's basketball, not to mention strong growth in both men's and women's soccer (I am sure there are others, but those are the one's I follow most closely). I think the committment to women's athletics has grown in the conference as Millikin and Wheaton have proven that the CCIW can produce teams capable of winning women's National Championships.

I might have doubted Augustana's commitment to women's basketball a few years ago, but I believe that the program is headed in the right direction and that's why I wouldn't consider criticizing them, other than to ask, "Why did you wait so long?" They used to be a CCIW powerhouse, but ever since Schumacher left they haven't contended (even for a little while before she left).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 13, 2007, 02:28:23 am
I am not denying that a school's commitment to athletics is usually seen across the board as resources allow. In fact, I pointed out that Augustana's all-sports success has been manifest over decades. However, that doesn't always translate into success in each and every sport. As I said before, a lot of it depends upon the coach. Resources aid success; they don't determine it.

As for women's sports in the CCIW in general, it's true that the league is moving forward in various sports. But the progress is piecemeal and uneven between the eight member schools, just as it is in men's soccer. Men's basketball is a different story altogether, since for decades it has performed at a very high level in national terms; and while most of the schools in the CCIW have had their downturns in that particular sport on occasion, every single one of them has at one time or another over the past twenty years been reckoned as a powerhouse in it. That's simply not the case in the various women's sports (including women's basketball), or in most of the men's sports.

Men's basketball is this conference's showcase sport because, among other reasons, all eight schools have tasted success in it at times and all eight schools very tangibly aspire to attain more success in it. Given the history of the conference and the public attention given to that particular sport, it'd be hard to expect less.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 13, 2007, 08:18:00 am
Well said, and as a CCIW Women's basketball fan I recognize that we are not where the men are in terms of the depth and tradition across the board. On the other hand, there has been a lot of growth the last few years, and I believe that for the first time in the 10 years that I have been around that all the teams in the league are headed in the right direction and have quality coaches who can build program stability. Women's basketball may never measure up to the history of the men's (how can it, when it's only been around for 20 years), but I think that things are looking good and the future is trending in the right direction.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 13, 2007, 07:17:38 pm
I agree. I think that in the long run the conference is on the uptick in this sport, although I also think Rog has a point about the overall talent level of the CCIW being slightly down from what it was three or so seasons ago.

The true test of the overall strength of CCIW women's basketball will be measured, I believe, by three consistent trends seen over an extended period of time:

1) All teams, including those at the bottom of the standings, having winning non-conference records, as opposed to just the teams at the top. This is commonplace in every sport in which the CCIW excels (notably men's basketball), but not in women's basketball. It was starting to trend that way, but the past two seasons have been marked by regression; each has seen three CCIW teams fall short of a .500 non-conference record.

2) Teams going deep into the D3 tournament on a regular basis. Millikin won the national title two years ago, of course, but unfortunately that success was an anomaly. It marks the only Final Four appearance by a CCIW team (North Central won the D3 title in 1983 prior to the CCIW's sanctioning of women's basketball as an official conference sport). The only previous tourney runs of note were an Elite Eight appearance by Millikin in 1997; Sweet Sixteens by Millikin in 1995 and 1996; another Elite Eight appearance by Millikin in 1994; and a Sweet Sixteen appearance by Augustana in 1989. This track record is not the stuff of a power conference.

3) Across-the-board competitiveness for the CCIW title. Unfortunately, the CCIW has belonged to the usual suspects -- Millikin and Wheaton -- throughout most of the conference's two decades of women's basketball. While that may please some Big Blue and Thunder fans, it doesn't speak well for the conference as a whole. The intermittent rise of Illlinois Wesleyan over the past few seasons has been a positive indication of expanding competitiveness, but as long as there are schools that never crack the top half of the league, let alone compete for the title, the overall strength of the conference will continue to lag.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 14, 2007, 07:15:57 pm
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Post by: Titan Q on May 09, 2007, 07:20:29 am
An article on IWU's recruiting class...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/05/09/sports/125997.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on May 11, 2007, 11:36:38 am
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Post by: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2007, 01:44:52 am
The Carthage web site features an early '07-'08 roster and a lengthy one at that.

Carthage has a big roster, you say? Shocking!  :D

Can any of our loyal readers tell us about other new CCIW players or any non-senior departures?

I haven't heard anything yet about this year's NPU squad, but when I do I'll pass it along here.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on September 26, 2007, 01:24:13 pm
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Post by: BeastMaster on October 12, 2007, 11:38:17 am
Heard that Millikin assistant Dick Marshall suffered a heart attack on Saturday night.  Hopefully everything will be alright because he is the lifeblood of the program at MU.  He is a wonderful man and I am sure he would appreciate any prayers for his family at this time.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 22, 2007, 01:30:15 pm
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Post by: RogK on October 25, 2007, 11:33:17 am
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Post by: Gregory Sager on October 26, 2007, 12:47:34 am
North Park still hasn't posted a roster yet, and I have yet to speak to Jack or Mary Surridge to find out whom they've brought in to flesh out an NPU roster that was seriously depleted by graduation. However, a look at the NPU schedule reveals that Jack has scheduled a pretty intense slate of non-conference games to prepare the Vikings for the rigors of the CCIW season. Eight of their eleven non-conference foes will be teams that posted winning records last season, including Concordia (WI) (23-4, won the NAthC title); UW-Eau Claire (19-9); Chicago (19-9 -- and NPU might play the Maroons twice, since both teams are also in the UWEC tourney); Lake Forest (24-3, MWC champs); and, most likely, Hope (24-4, and only one year removed from a national title -- NPU will play the Dutch in a tourney in Holland, MI if the Vikes can get past Hanover first, and Hanover was only 3-21 last season).

I have no idea how NPU's gonna look this year, but the Vikings will no doubt be prepared for the caliber of play that they're going to see in CCIW action in January and February.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 26, 2007, 11:36:28 am
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Post by: HCACBBALL on October 27, 2007, 04:06:00 am
NPU will play the Dutch in a tourney in Holland, MI if the Vikes can get past Hanover first, and Hanover was only 3-21 last season).

Gregory,

Even though Hanover only won 3 games last year they have a great freshman roster and will be a tough team to play this year.  I would not mark that done as a win just yet.

Also, RogK, how will NCC be able to compete for a NCC playoff birth this year?  I heard they had many chemistry issues last year and only won 5 games.  Personally I would love to see that but with teams like Millikin, IWU, Wheaton, and Carthage I think that might be tough.

On that note any word on how good Carthage will be this year?  I saw them play once last year and was impressed with the players and the coach.  I think he does a great job.

(modified by GS for formatting purposes)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 30, 2007, 11:43:05 am
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Post by: RogK on October 30, 2007, 01:42:13 pm
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Post by: HCACBBALL on October 31, 2007, 04:13:52 am
Rog K,

Thanks for the explaination.  I am a big supporter of NCC athletics and surely hope we can turn around our women's basketball program much like the Men's Bball and Football programs have done. 

It should be another good year for the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 31, 2007, 02:35:41 pm
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Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 01, 2007, 07:22:08 pm
d3hoops preseason poll is up:

13. Millikin
15. IWU

Carthage received 1 vote; Wheaton (etc.) received none
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 02, 2007, 03:43:49 am
Hello from London!  We'll be back for basketball season.

The D3 coaches' poll has IWU 16th, Millikin 21st.  Wash U. and De Pauw are first and second--that opening tournament could be huge for IWU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 02, 2007, 10:55:19 am
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Post by: RogK on November 06, 2007, 10:26:16 am
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Post by: Gregory Sager on November 07, 2007, 12:53:41 am
Still no roster yet for NPU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 07, 2007, 12:40:03 pm
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Post by: Titan Q on November 07, 2007, 10:11:41 pm
An article on the Titans...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/11/07/sports/doc473157aa9eeb8182311053.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 08, 2007, 03:06:57 am
Greg, you are influential. NP now shows their roster.

NPU only lists nine players on this season's roster. Only two of them are returnees, one a starter (junior guard Stylianee Damianides) and one a little-used reserve (senior guard Andrea Perez). The backup center from two seasons ago, senior Crissy Komperda, is also back for the Vikings. I've been told by the father of two NPU student-athletes that there was an attempt to solicit walk-ons for the women's basketball team via flyers and a campus-wide e-mail invitation after the school year began, and that's always a bad sign. Given the dangerously small size of the roster (brought on by four of last year's players not coming out for the team this year, in addition to the loss of the six who graduated), I can see why it came to that.

The big question is why All-CCIW second-teamer Evie Peterson, who is still an NPU student, isn't on the team. That's 13.0 ppg and 7.1 rpg lost right there. I know that her father is seriously ill, so I wonder if that might've factored into her decision not to play this season. At any rate, she's a catastrophic loss for NPU.

Looks like NPU has a big mountain to climb this season. I certainly hope that most or all of these six newbies can play right away at a CCIW level -- and that the shorthanded Vikings can stay healthy.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 15, 2007, 08:56:03 pm
Very nice article on the front page (Around the Nation) about Lindsey Ippel (and Ben Strong).  As the article points out (and no surprise to most fans of the men), Mr. Strong will have an excellent shot at a career in the NBA.  There was no mention one way or the other concerning Ms. Ippel and the WNBA.  Anyone know whether there has been any interest from them?  (Or, I suppose, whether she would have any interest in them?!)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: sac on November 16, 2007, 06:57:10 pm
IWU takes out #6 Washington 69-51 at DePauw's tournament.

The margin, not necessarily the win would surprise some people.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: buf on November 16, 2007, 10:41:04 pm
On their home court, #13 Millikin gets a whooping from Whitewater 92-46.  Any details from anyone that went to the game?
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Post by: Gregory Sager on November 17, 2007, 12:22:39 pm
NPU's new-look squad was taken to the cleaners by Concordia (WI) in the opener of the St. Norbert tourney last night, 82-42. The Vikings turned the ball over 39 times. Ouch. Looks like it could be a very unpleasant year for the North Park women's team.

The weird thing is that they only attempted two three-pointers for the entire game.

NPU will face Edgewood in today's consolation game.

Augie lost by 12 to Lakeland, and Elmhurst lost by 5 to Lake Forest. North Central beat Webster handily.
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Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 17, 2007, 07:33:14 pm
There may be something special brewing in Bloomington.  Last night they downed pre-season #6 WashU 69-51.  Today they couldn't quite match that feat, but only lost to pre-season #5 DePauw (AT DePauw) by a 77-66 margin.

Probably not quite enough to move from #17 pre-season into the top 10, but 11 or 12 seems plausible.  (Alas, part of that rise will be due to the fall of Millikin - 92-46: OUCH!)
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Post by: Gregory Sager on November 18, 2007, 12:30:13 pm
Edgewood beat NPU in the St. Norbert consolation, 77-43. Yuck.
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Post by: RogK on November 18, 2007, 04:28:25 pm
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Post by: Illinihoops4 on November 29, 2007, 12:23:26 am
Word is that Parra is in Australia this term and will be back in time for conference play. Not sure what the scoop is with Amber.
Augie over Aurora tonight at the Carver Center.
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Post by: RogK on December 03, 2007, 01:33:48 pm
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Post by: Titan Q on December 04, 2007, 10:42:29 pm
IWU moved to 4-1 with a 98-72 win over Fontbonne tonight in St. Louis...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2008/WB33.HTM

Junior point-guard Mallory Heydorn was 7-10 from beyond the arc, finishing with 22 points.  As a team, the Titans were 18-37 from 3.

All four of IWU's wins have been blowouts...

98-72 over Fontbonne
99-50 over MacMurray
90-40 over Eureka
69-51 over Wash U

The Titans are averaging 84.4 points per game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 05, 2007, 01:46:22 pm
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Post by: Titan Q on December 05, 2007, 01:59:15 pm
Titan Q,
Something else that stands out from last night's IWU stat sheet is the 16 rebounds by Christina Solari. Her 5 assists and 3 steals ain't bad either.
The game I saw was interesting, too.
Wheaton stood up very well to St Xavier, a team that plays similarly to the Titans. Only in OT did the Thunder tire out.
They couldn't handle SXU forward Erin Hannemann throughout the contest, and got done in by quick guards Kathlyn McClain and Alex Barone at the end of the game.
But they did a very good job bothering SXU's numerous three-point shooters into a 5/22 performance.
Claire Glass excelled on the glass (sorry) with 14 rebs in 29 minutes. Katie Heddell played very well in her return to action.
Illinihoops4: to update what we talked about a few days back -- Parra and Cibrario both played in NC's win last night.

Rog, I watched this game on the WETN stream...my parents are big SXU fans (my mom's alma mater and they live a mile away) and wanted the scoop.

I thought the Thunder were going to pull it out.  In the end, that SXU pressure D was just a little too much.

Wheaton played very well.  SXU won @ D1 Illinois-Chicago.
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Post by: RogK on December 06, 2007, 01:36:08 pm
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Post by: HCACBBALL on December 08, 2007, 04:50:43 am
Even though it is early I may have to eat my words!  NCC is off to a solid 4-2 start with a nice win over Benedictine.  It will be a test at Franklin today. Franklin is a tough HCAC school and tough place to play for the opposition. 

Seeing IWU play twice they have to be the team to beat.  Their guards are solid and they have so much depth.  The run and jump has paid off early.  We will see how does come conference time. They are a fun team to watch!  Mia is doing another stellar job in Bloomington
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Post by: Titan Q on December 16, 2007, 04:24:12 pm
Yesterday at Millikin's Harriett Crannell Holiday Classic tournament, IWU jumped out to a 27-0 lead vs Blackburn and cruised to a 86-45 win.  The starters played just 17-18 minutes.

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2008/HCHC1.HTM

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/12/16/sports/doc4764a3efa3963723345020.txt

Per IWU's site:

The Titans' scheduled game vs. Robert Morris-Springfield on Sunday, Dec. 16 has been cancelled and not due to weather. RMC is unable to field a team due to injuries sustained in last night's loss to Millikin.

IWU is now 6-1 with a game at Manchester Tuesday.
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Post by: RogK on December 17, 2007, 11:45:11 am
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 17, 2007, 12:05:08 pm
Word this morning in the Pantagraph is that the IWU-RMS game will be rescheduled Saturday, Jan. 5 at the Shirk Center, time TBD.

We had planned to go to Decatur on Saturday, but the snow was at its peak as we were running errands around town, and it was slippery enough that we turned around and followed the score online. 

Having been in London for the past four months, we were eager to see a game.  Now we will see the IWU men against Hanover Tuesday, and then it's another long hiatus (for us) until the CCIW seasons begin in January. We did see great football (soccer), and I actually watched and enjoyed a few rugby matches as England made it to the finals of the World Cup.

Thanks to Rog and all who have kept the flow of information coming!  It's good to be back.
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Post by: RogK on December 17, 2007, 01:12:52 pm
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Post by: RogK on December 18, 2007, 01:38:32 pm
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Post by: Chicago_BBall_97 on December 18, 2007, 06:42:50 pm
Does anyone know why Augie played Colorado College on back to back nights
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Post by: RogK on December 19, 2007, 11:38:09 am
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Post by: RogK on December 19, 2007, 05:55:10 pm
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Post by: Titan Q on December 19, 2007, 06:07:18 pm
IWU moved to 7-1 with a 87-55 win over Manchester yesterday...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2008/07WG9IWU.HTM

The margins of IWU's wins are:

Wash U - 18 pts
Eureka - 50
MacMurray - 44
Fontbonne - 26
Ill-Springfield - 35
Blackburn - 41
Manchester - 32

I'm a little worried about what appears to be a cupcake schedule since opening weekend, but they sure have taken care of business.

The Titans finish the non-conference...

12/29 vs Milwaukee School of Engineering (@ Cal Lutheran)
12/30 vs Cal Lutheran or UC-Santa Cruz
1/5 vs Robert Morris-Springfield (makeup of postponed game)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 19, 2007, 06:10:32 pm
I wonder if Titan Q can tell us about IWU's Hope Schulte, who so far has stats that indicate a diversely-talented player (steals, blocks, rebounding, shooting range, some assists).

Rog, I just haven't seen her play enough to comment.  I know Mia Smith was thrilled when she landed Schulte as a recruit and feels like her freshman class is loaded.

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Post by: WLCALUM83 on December 21, 2007, 07:22:16 am
This poster's seen a couple of MSOE's games:  One of MSOE's guards (Dana Guthrie) has exceptional foot-speed and can hit the 3. That squad gave fellow NAthCon opponent Lakeland all it could handle until the Muskies pulled away in the last 5 minutes of that contest.

Just my .02.
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Post by: RogK on December 21, 2007, 01:32:39 pm
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Post by: Titan Q on December 30, 2007, 01:18:37 am
IWU 114
MSOE 40

From IWU.edu...

The Illinois Wesleyan women's basketball team set a school game scoring record in a 114-40 blasting of Milwaukee School of Engineering in the first round of the Cal Lutheran Tournament at Thousand Oaks, Calif. on Saturday, Dec. 29. The old record was 109 points in a win at Rockford in the 1995-96 season. Six Titans scored in double figures, led by freshman Nikki Preston (shown) with 15, senior Kerri Gravlin with 14, freshman Hope Schulte with 13, seniors Crystal Dye and Sarah Bull with 12 each and junior Claire Sheehan with 11. No. 10- ranked IWU, now 8-1 overall, outrebounded MSOE (whose record fell to 0-10) by a 54-25 margin led by 14 from sophomore Christina Solari. The Titans, who also set a school record with 37 assists, were 17 of 42 from 3-point range and will play either UC-Santa Cruz or the host school for the title at 4 p.m. Pacific time on Sunday, Dec. 30.

The boxscore...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2008/1229MSIW.HTM


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Post by: Titan Q on December 30, 2007, 09:34:48 pm
IWU 91
UC-Santa Cruz 45

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2008/1230IWSC.HTM

The Titans (9-1) are averaging 89.7 points...opponents 54.2.  They've played a weak schedule since the opener, but they've pounded the teams they should pound.
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Post by: RogK on December 31, 2007, 10:34:10 am
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Post by: RogK on December 31, 2007, 07:09:52 pm
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Post by: Jaywatch on January 03, 2008, 01:04:05 pm
I got a chance to see the Elmhurst victory (78-69) over Benedictine last night.  The Bluejays have an interesting mix of young talent--they start one freshman, and regularly play four or five more freshmen off the bench.  Their leading scorer, Long, is only a sophomore.  Although their record is 4-7, they have been competitive in most of their games against some good teams.  They may be a team to watch over the next couple of years.
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Post by: Dave84 on January 03, 2008, 07:44:06 pm
Hey Titan,

I'm a Trinity (TX) supporter and haven't heard much about your IWU lately.  I remember we played your guys a couple of times during my tenure, and just wanted to know how they are looking.  The Freeman brothers are gone now, correct? who is this year's star?
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Post by: Pat Coleman on January 03, 2008, 08:51:09 pm
Guessing you want to ask that in the men's board.
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Post by: Titan Q on January 04, 2008, 08:18:09 am
An article on the Titans...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/01/04/usports/doc477db5364350c287188099.txt
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Post by: Dave84 on January 04, 2008, 10:23:50 am
haha, good point pat, might have clicked the wrong CCIW board.  thanks!
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Post by: RogK on January 06, 2008, 01:31:37 pm
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Post by: Titan Q on January 08, 2008, 07:46:55 pm
IWU/North Park live stats (7:30pm tip)...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/live/Basketball/xlive.htm
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on January 08, 2008, 10:05:11 pm
IWU 95
North Park 43

IWU played without All-American point-guard Mallory Heydorn, who is suffering from a strained achilles.  The Titans raced out to an early lead vs the Vikings though and never looked back.  Sarah Bull scored 21 of her 22 points in the 1st half to pace the Titans.

I realized NPU is really struggling this year, so it’s hard to draw a lot from this one, but a couple observations from the 30 minutes or so I watched tonight…

* IWU really gets after it defensively up and down the floor. They forced 21 1st half turnovers tonight and 41 in the game.  They make every player on the opposing team handle the basketball.

* The Titans are just absolutely loaded with talent up and down the roster.  They’re led by upperclass perimeter players Mallory Heydorn (Jr), Sarah Bull (Sr), Claire Sheehan (Jr), and Crystal Dye (Sr), but sophomore Christina Solari, the starting center, is averaging over 8 rebounds per game.  And the Titans have a bunch of freshmen who are going to be outstanding, including 5-10 guard Hope Schulte, 5-10 guard Nikki Preston, 6-1 center Sarah Cotner, and 5-11 forward Lia Anderson.  IWU is in position to be really good for a long time.

The Titans really need Heydorn back vs Millikin Saturday.  Her status is up in the air.
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Post by: AndOne on January 09, 2008, 12:32:15 am
North Central rolls over Augie 72-39.

http://www.northcentralcollege.edu/athletics/stats/basketball_w/07-08/NCCW-AUG.HTM#GAME.BOXer

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Post by: Jaywatch on January 09, 2008, 11:05:44 am
I got to see the game at Elmhurst last night.  What an exciting finish for a team that hadn't beaten Wheaton since 1989.  Elmhurst was down 9 with under 6 minutes remaining, and mounted a furious comeback with a trapping press that forced Wheaton into 27 turnovers for the game.  With about 25 seconds remaining and Elmhurst down 58-57, Elmhurst freshman Kelsey Monroe grabbed a defensive rebound, drew a foul as she pushed the ball up the floor, and knocked down the two free throws to give Elmhurst a one point lead.  Elmhurst then had two nice defensive stops to close out the win.  Their defense helped them overcome a poor shooting performance--Elmhurst sophomore Lyndsie Long had five steals, Monroe four, and junior Brittany Bobruk three.  Long had a stellar game with a double-double, 12 points and 10 rebounds, and Bobruk led the scoring with 15.  Wheaton sophomore Sarah Jones had another nice game with 12 points and 5 rebounds, and sophomore post Carissa Bacon did well inside with 10 points and 5 rebounds.
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Post by: RogK on January 09, 2008, 11:40:58 am
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Post by: RogK on January 09, 2008, 03:18:52 pm
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 09, 2008, 04:24:40 pm
Looks like we're in for an interesting CCIW season, with Elmhurst breaking their string of losses to Wheaton and Carthage taking it to Millikin on the Big Blue's home floor.  It's early days, though--I'm sure that there will be more unexpected results. 

Rog, you asked a while back about Hope Schulte.  I got to see the Titans for the first time this season last night, and Schulte had more minutes than any other Titan (still only 21, though).  As the stats suggest, she's a complete player--good ball-handling, able to make assists and to score inside and out.  Her stats for the night were 3/6 on FG shooting, 4/4 on FTs, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks, and 1 turnover.  She has a good looking shot and seems to have been well coached.  As Q says, there's a ton of talent on the IWU side this year; Schulte seems to be very mature for a first-year college player.

The IWU-Millikin game on Saturday is looming large.  I'm looking forward to seeing that matchup.
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Post by: RogK on January 11, 2008, 05:40:43 pm
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Post by: RogK on January 12, 2008, 11:02:30 pm
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Post by: Jaywatch on January 12, 2008, 11:37:48 pm
RogK, not sure how you cover so many games at once--I have trouble keeping up with just Elmhurst.  The Bluejays were down 18 with only nine minutes remaining, and I think--although I haven't seen the actual stats yet--they were down 16 with five minutes to go.  North Central's stifling defense, which contributed to Elmhurst's poor shooting for the first two thirds of the game, began to result in fouls the last third.  So, some of the second half margin was made up by Elmhurst at the free throw line with the clock stopped.  Elmhurst just seemed to turn up the intensity, getting loose balls and rebounds they weren't getting earlier in the game, and started knocking down shots.  Before that, North Central dominated most of the game, taking advantage of their size advantage in the post, and their guards handled Elmhurst's press well.  The Cardinals seem to have a nice team, and deep into the second half it looked like they were well on their way to a blow out.  It was unbelievable watching the Elmhurst comeback in the last five minutes.
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 13, 2008, 10:04:28 am
Here's a link to the Pantagraph story of the IWU-Millikin game:
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/01/13/usports/doc4789675c1920c931150091.txt

The Big Blue simply executed their game plan better than the Titans did theirs, save the first five minutes or so.  The Titan offense depends a lot on the 3-point shot, and when you hit less than 30%, as they did in the second half, you won't usually win.  What made the first few minutes go the Titans' way was their effort to contain Lindsay Ippel--they were successful early, but the Big Blue went to other options and then were able to work it back in to Ippel.  The bright spot for the Titans was the return of Mallory Heydorn, who had been expected to sit with a sore Achilles tendon.  She didn't look much the worse for it, scoring five 3's and a team-high 16 points.  Heydorn broke the IWU record for 3's in the game, and Ippel became Millikin's all-time scoring leader.

The result was a fair one--all credit to the Big Blue.  Looks like it's really "game on" in the CCIW now!
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Post by: HCACBBALL on January 14, 2008, 11:42:17 am
Just curious if IWU playing a weak non-con schedule has anything to do with this loss?  Player to player I would say IWU has more talent. 
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 14, 2008, 12:15:57 pm
Just curious if IWU playing a weak non-con schedule has anything to do with this loss?  Player to player I would say IWU has more talent. 

I think that recent experience in competitive games is always helpful.  I know that the IWU coaching staff prefer to schedule challenging opposition (witness the opening two games against Wash. U. and DePauw), but it's true that the rest of the schedule hasn't given the Titans a lot of practice in pulling out close games, to say the least.  So in a sense what you say is true.

I prefer to say that Millikin stuck to their game plan better than IWU.  Lindsay Ippel is a huge part of that game plan, and when getting the ball to her inside wasn't working, they tried something else:  they shot 46% on 3-point shots (57% in the second half, when Whitney Scwartz went 3-3).  IWU, on the other hand, was ice-cold by their standards:  Claire Sheehan went 1-5 on threes, and Sarah Bull was 2-7.  By the second half the fouls were mounting on the IWU bigs, and Ippel was able to take over. 

While I'm sure that being out of practice in close game situations didn't help the Titans, it's also true that sometimes the shots just don't fall.  Although I don't really believe in "good losses," in the long run this loss may have given the Titans experience a team can only get under game conditions, and thus make them stronger.
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Post by: RogK on January 14, 2008, 01:50:33 pm
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Post by: RogK on January 15, 2008, 03:18:26 pm
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 15, 2008, 09:09:12 pm
IWU has just come from behind to take a 9 point lead at Augie with about 2:00 in the first half.

Live stats at  http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/livestats/xlive.htm
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Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 15, 2008, 10:06:19 pm
Titans up by 28 with less than 2 minutes in the game.
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 15, 2008, 10:11:49 pm
The Titans seem to have shaken off whatever ailed them Saturday and early on in tonight's game.  After coming from 8 down early in the game (when Augustana shot 75% from the floor!) to take a 39-32 halftime lead, the Titans won the second half 46-28.  FG shooting percentages were comparable--42.1% for Augie compared to 43.8% for IWU--but the Titans made 32 FGs to Augie's 24, and 12 of those IWU baskets were 3s.  High scorers were Mallory Heydorn with 18, Claire Sheehan with 17, and Sarah Bull with 16. 
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Post by: Jaywatch on January 16, 2008, 10:23:21 am
Got to see Carthage take sole possession of first place last night, although Elmhurst made it a game in what is becoming a typical comeback effort after falling behind by double digits in the second half.  Carthage pulled ahead by 14 with under 14 minutes remaining, but Elmhurst turned up the pressure defense and cut the lead to one with four minutes remaining.  Elmhurst could never get over the top, though, and it remained a three point game through the final buzzer.  Carthage did a nice job taking advantage of their size inside by controlling the boards, outscoring Elmhurst in the paint, and getting second chance points.  Elmhurst had the edge in forcing turnovers and points off turnovers.  Freshman Monroe led the scoring for Elmhurst with 19, while Long had her usual steady game with 16, and Bobruk 13.  Carthage has many weapons, though, and had four of five starters in double figures, led by a nice shooting effort by Janowiak with 16.  It turned out to be a game of size against speed, and it was fun to watch.
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Post by: RogK on January 16, 2008, 11:39:40 am
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 20, 2008, 11:16:54 am
Good morning, all,

I made it to Shirk yesterday to see round one of IWU-Wheaton for this season.  The final score was 67-52 Titans, although at times, especially in the second half, the game felt much closer than that.  The Titans started the game with their characteristic press, causing quite a few turnovers.  However, for the first time I can remember this season, IWU had more turnovers than the opposition (25 for IWU, 22 for Wheaton).  Partly this was due to good ball pressure on Wheaton's  part, and partly due to IWU trying to play too fast--long, uncontrollable passes, shot fakes that turned into travels, etc. 

Some notes on individual players: IWU's Christina Solari definitely earned the game ball:  she led both sides in scoring and rebounding with 19 and 9 respectively, and shot 9-11 from the field.  Elyse Sanchez, all 5'3" of her, had 7 rebounds for IWU.  Kathleen Fidelia, whom I remember as a deadly 3-point shooter at the 2 guard position last year, seems to be playing a lot of point guard this year.  It doesn't appear to be a natural fit, as she committed 7 turnovers and scored 8 points, all on 2-point shots.  Annie Bowen also had 8 for Wheaton and led them in rebounding with 9.  Overall, IWU outrebounded Wheaton by 47-34.

Wheaton made a nice run in the second half as IWU went ice-cold from the field (their shooting percentage went from 48% in the first half to 37% in the second, and the margin got as close as eight before the Titans were able to pull away.  First-year Titan Nikki Preston had a clutch 3 during that time.

A good match between two well-coached teams.
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Post by: RogK on January 20, 2008, 08:55:45 pm
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 20, 2008, 09:50:23 pm
Rog, I am not dissing Wheaton's defense--they play good fundamental basketball, and I'm sure they affected the IWU shooters somewhat.  But there were quite a misses on open shots that are usually made.  It just seemed to be a slightly off day for the shooters--Solari excepted, of course.
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 23, 2008, 06:27:45 am
I was not at the IWU@Elmhurst game--I'm in New Jersey for a family funeral--so all I can report is what I saw following the online stats and reading the Pantagraph.  Perhaps someone who was there can add more. 

IWU came from behind several times, trailing by three at the half and as many as seven early in the second half.  They were behind 74-73 with about 3:30 to go, before finally putting on a 13-2 run.  The final margin was due to free throws (on which IWU was 19-21); the game was much closer than that.

Elmhurst's scoring was led by Lyndsie Long with 28, and Sarah Bull paced IWU with 24.  Colleen Caplice and Crystal Dye had 14 each for the Titans, and Claire Sheehan had 13 with nine assists.  Brittany Bobruk had 14 for Elmhurst.  Christina Solari led the rebounding with 11.  Just watching the plays online, it seemed a very fast-paced game.  Any eyewitnesses?
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Post by: RogK on January 23, 2008, 01:40:44 pm
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 26, 2008, 03:16:51 pm
Does anyone know if there is a broadcast of the NCC-IWU game?  I can't find live stats on NCC's web page.  Thanks!
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Post by: RogK on January 26, 2008, 10:13:43 pm
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 26, 2008, 11:43:18 pm
Rog,

Thanks for the reports.  What happened with the fouls on NCC's Williams?  The play-by-play shows her getting her last two fouls with the clock stopped.  Is that correct?
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Post by: RogK on January 28, 2008, 10:41:51 am
She was assessed a technical. Do those count as personal fouls, too? I'm not sure, but that may be what caused the play-by-play to look that way.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 28, 2008, 03:19:08 pm
Congratulations for winning CCIW player of the week during January to :
Sarah Jones, Lindsay Ippel, Lindsay Ippel and Sarah Bull.
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Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 28, 2008, 04:25:18 pm
She was assessed a technical. Do those count as personal fouls, too? I'm not sure, but that may be what caused the play-by-play to look that way.

Don't recall when the change came, but technicals have also counted as personals for several years.
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Post by: RogK on January 28, 2008, 04:43:56 pm
Thanks, Mr.
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 28, 2008, 10:30:10 pm
Hmm, this is very curious.  According to the play-by-play, she got the technical at 15:40 in the second half, when she already had three fouls.  Then, with the clock apparently stopped at 4:33, she got fouls number four and five. See for yourself here:
http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2008/NCCW-IWU.HTM

I was pretty sure that technicals did count as personals, so it looks as though she got away with six fouls, as in the NBA (or the guy who got a third yellow card from Graham Poll in the World Cup, but that's for another board...)

I'll ask some of the parents or the Titan coaching staff what happened tomorrow. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 29, 2008, 01:44:32 pm
Safe travels to everyone on the road this evening; the weather will be interesting. I'm counting on Metra for deliverance to and from Wheaton.
Tonight's games are rematches of the conference openers on January 8 and will bring us halfway through the 14 game season. The matchups that haven't occurred yet will occur on Saturday and then again on the final day of the schedule, February 23.
I'll be seeing if the Thunder can retaliate for a slight loss at Elmhurst. The Bluejays won despite 3/20 three-point shooting. Wheaton so far has allowed only 22/101 from the arc in CCIW play, so that wasn't a coincidence. Another loss for Wheaton may doom their playoff chances, while Elmhurst needs a victory to solidify its spot in the upper half of the league.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 30, 2008, 02:59:48 pm
Carthage upended Millikin, 53-44 and maintained an undefeated conference record. Katie Jarger led all with 14 points (on only eight shots). Forrest Smith grabbed 8 rebs. Carlie Janowiak had 6 steals, among other things.
But most notably, the Lady Reds put a big defensive shutdown on Millikin's usual plan. Lindsay Ippel was held to 7 pts in 38:00. No one tallied in double digits for the visitors.
The NC at Aug game will occur today, apparently.
IWU sped past NP, 83-47.
The game I observed was a tight one, featuring 55 fouls and was won by Wheaton, 70-68, over Elmhurst. The key for the Thunder was dominance of the defensive rebounding --- they got 30 of 40 possible. Whitney Edgecombe seized 14 total rebs and Claire Glass got 10. Together, they had 17 defensive rebounds. Jamie Jones scored 17 pts in her 21:00, 7/10 and 3/3 FT. Kathleen Fidelia's dribbling skill prevented Elmhurst's press from being a big factor.
For Elmhurst, Lyndsie Long poured in 25 pts (10/16, 5/7 FT). More and more, her play reminds me of former outstanding NBA small forward Adrian Dantley, who would efficiently score 25 or 29 while you thought he had maybe 17 or 18.
Elmhurst was also kept in the game by the relentless efforts of Candice Sutton. Only 5'3" or so, she got right in on the rebound battles and led EC with 9, also contributing 18 pts and good ball handling.
While Elmhurst is much improved, they have things to work on in order to get up to the level of IWU or Carthage. Passing is one area where those two teams excel.
EC could have done better at that. For example, on some fast breaks, sharp-shooting Kelsey Monroe was wide open on the wing, but this was not recognized by the teammates bringing the ball up. Had she gotten two or three more three-point attempts up (or driven to the hoop), the victory may have been Elmhurst's. But anyway, credit goes to Wheaton for winning this one fairly and squarely.
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Post by: RogK on January 31, 2008, 01:46:08 pm
Well well, Augustana beats North Central. This puts three teams at 2-5 and at the heels of 3-4 Elmhurst. It's conceivable that a 7-7 record will be good enough for the 4th CCIW playoff spot. Maybe even 6-8 if things get weird.
Saturday promises some fascinating confrontations.
IWU hosts Carthage, hoping to grab a share of 1st place. Up to this point, the voters who do the national rankings don't think very highly of Carthage. I assume they've been waiting to see what happens vs IWU. I don't see Carthage allowing any of IWU's guards going off for big points. The advantage among the big players is up for grabs. We'll see.
Whoever loses among Wheaton, NC and Augie will be in a difficult spot. NP already is in a difficult spot.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 03, 2008, 11:21:39 am
The IWU-Carthage matchup at Shirk was as exciting as promised.  The 80-63 final score is a bit misleading, as the game was quite close most of the way.  Only in the last five minutes or so was the likely outcome clear.

Both teams were a bit tight to start, and Carthage got going quicker, carrying a small lead until around the 10:00 mark of the first half.  The Titans pressured the ball handlers, often trapping, and, as usual, sometimes it worked and sometimes it helped create open looks for big Carthage players under the basket.  Overall, it helped the Titans erase the deficit and pull into a 41-37 halftime lead.  Carthage came out strong to equalise the score in the second half, but down the stretch fatigue seemed to hit the Lady Reds hard.  Their foul totals mounted, with key players Shana Lieberman and Lisa Gartelos fouling out, and the Titans pulled away.

The last 1:20 of the first half was almost surreal, with two Titan centers going down.  At the 1.20 mark, starting center Christina Solari (who missed most of last season with an ACL) collapsed under the Titan basket and it was obvious the other knee was the problem.  She was finally helped off the floor, not putting any weight on the leg at all, and was replaced by first-year Sarah Cotner, still wearing a brace on one leg due to an ACL injury last year.  Within seconds, Cotner had collapsed under the other basket--I thought she had slipped on a wet patch of floor.  She, then, was helped off, in obvious agony.  Bottom line:  Solari's was  just a hyperextended knee, and she returned for the second half.  Cotner's injury, however, may well be more serious.

About individual players:  the Lady Reds were led in scoring by Gartelos and Katie Jarger (perhaps, in my mind, the most dangerous single Carthage player because she is a threat both inside and outside) with 13 each.  Shana Lieberman added 11 and both she and Carlie Janowiak had 6 assists.  The Reds' size mattered:  they had 7 blocked shots to the Titans' one.  A solid team.  The Titans' scoring was evenly distributed:  Mallory Heydorn led with 20 (her 8 made baskets were half 2's and half 3's), Claire Sheehan had 15, Sarah Bull 14, Crystal Dye 10, and Solari 9.  First-year Nikki swing player Nikki Preston impressed with 9 points, 5 rebounds, and 2 assists in just 10 minutes of playing time.  And probably the most telling statistic:  the smaller Titans outrebounded the Lady Reds by a 50-27 margin. 

So now the stage is set for the final push to the conference tournament.  IWU heads to Millikin on Tuesday--a key matchup, since the Big Blue defeated the Titans at Shirk in January.  Clearly, every game is a must-win for the Titans now, but this one is particularly important because Carthage has swept Millikin.  The Titans cannot afford to lose to anyone if they want to host the tournament.  Elmhurst looks to me to be the favorite for the fourth spot--what do others think?

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 03, 2008, 12:14:20 pm
By the way,

Carthage coach Tim Bernero seemed to go out of his way not to shake hands with Sarah Bull, Crystal Dye, and Christina Solari as the starting lineups were introduced (after he did shake hands with Mallory Heydorn and Claire Sheehan).  He turned and walked away, leaving his assistants to do the handshakes.  Then, after the game, he simply walked past the Titan team and coaches, spurning the traditional (and NCAA-sanctioned) handshake.  I've never seen this before--at least on the part of a coach, and at least at the Division III level. 

To put it bluntly, this appears to be poor sportsmanship on the part of Coach Bernero.  His team is well coached and they play the game hard and well.  They represent Carthage College well--they deserve better behavior from their coach.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 03, 2008, 03:34:09 pm
That's not normal (or bloomington) for Bernero, Hoosier Titan. I'll bet he was very pissed off at his own team, not anybody on the Titans. He couldn't be happy that Crystal Dye grabbed 13 rebounds, including many that Carthage should have had. And IWU repeatedly burned them with backdoor cuts and layins.
As you noted, the rebounding was lopsided in favor of IWU. I, too, was impressed with Nikki Preston's 5 rebs and 9 pts in just 10:00. She calmly hit 5/6 FTs in a tense game.
IWU is so talented, an excellent rebounder like Lia Anderson (check her rebs per minute ratio) can't even get in the game. I guess we'll see more of her next year.
It appears that Mallory Heydorn is back at full strength.
Looking at the remaining schedules, Carthage (7-1), IWU (7-1) and Millikin (6-2) can be expected to be in contention for hosting the CCIW tournament. The IWU/Carthage rematch in Kenosha might decide that.
Millikin hit 13/26 threes and topped North Park 87-67. Megan Mateer made 5 of 7 threes and Lindsay Ippel included one as part of her 33 point outburst (plus 9rebs). LaRae Kostreva of NP replied with 29 pts, 11 rebs and six steals.
Everybody played well for Elmhurst, as they trounced Augustana 93-73.
North Central whipped Wheaton 74-49, shooting 60.5% as a team. Barb Williams had 21 pts, 7 reb and 4 blocks for them, while Kelly Brooks led W with 9 pts in 11:00.
Elmhurst (4-4) and North Central (3-5) may have a good sprint to the end for the final conference playoff berth.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 04, 2008, 06:55:01 pm
Welcome to Hoosier Titan on her attaining status of "Starter"!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 04, 2008, 07:55:01 pm
Congratulations to Christine Solari being named Player of the Week in the CCIW!  IWU becomes the first school with three different winners this year (it ain't just Mallory's team. ;))

Christine joins Darius Gant (men's PoW) for a Titan sweep.  Good week to be a proud alum! :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 04, 2008, 08:03:08 pm
Thank you, Ralph!   :)

I was in error, Rog--Coach Bernero did shake hands with the IWU coaches and for some reason missed the team.  My bad.  Appearances deceived, and I clearly spoke too soon.

Looking forward to tomorrow night's matchups!  IWU and Millikin have established a nasty tradition of beating each other on home court, so that the home court advantage has almost become a disadvantage.   We'll see if that continues.  With Elmhurst at 4-4 and North Central at 3-5 their meeting is important for the fourth tournament spot (if we assume that Carthage, IWU, and Millikin are in the other three).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 04, 2008, 08:08:40 pm
Wow, what action on this board!  Welcome, Ralph and Mr. Ypsi!

I saw the news about Darius Gant earlier today, and just saw the Solari news now.  Rebounding was clearly the order of the day at Shirk last Saturday, with Darius hauling in 20 and Christina 11.  I promise to acknowledge the accomplishments of non-Titans as well (and we are about to head to the home court of the one-woman highlight film, Lindsay Ippel), but it was great to see those performances last weekend.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2008, 12:10:07 am
Then, after the game, he simply walked past the Titan team and coaches, spurning the traditional (and NCAA-sanctioned) handshake.

NCAA-sanctioned handshake? Huh?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 05, 2008, 07:42:36 am
Then, after the game, he simply walked past the Titan team and coaches, spurning the traditional (and NCAA-sanctioned) handshake.

NCAA-sanctioned handshake? Huh?

Pat,

I quote from a pamphlet on the NCAA website entitled Report on the Sportsmanship and Fan Behavior Summit:

--The postgame handshakes among players are an important aspect of the game that student-athletes should
be allowed to engage in safely.

--NCAA championship policies in basketball require student-athletes from opposing teams to greet each other during formal introductions before games.   This policy should also be adopted by institutions and conferences for regular-season games.

Here's the link to the pamphlet:http://www.ncaa.org/sportsmanship/sportsmanshipFanBehavior/report.pdf

This does address the behavior of student-athletes more than that of coaches.  But I think most will agree that it is traditional, if not required, for coaches to go through the handshake line with their players.  I apologize again if I misinterpreted anyone's behavior.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 05, 2008, 01:29:17 pm
Here are some conference-only stats:
                        2FG                     3FG
AUGIE     137/361 .380        21/67 .313
CARTH     167/333 .502       40/132 .303
ELMH      157/373 .421        48/137 .350
IWU        168/317 .530        61/200 .305
MILL       142/269 .528        53/117 .453
NC          155/348 .445        24/75 .320
NP          111/311 .357        28/100 .280
WHEAT   157/377 .416        23/89 .258
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 05, 2008, 10:51:19 pm
We intended to go to Decatur tonight, but the torrential downpour and wind have given us a moat in the backyard and some interesting new uses for saucepans!  All I can report of the IWU visit to Millikin is what's in the box score; perhaps someone who was there can give more information.

Lindsay Ippel had her usual steady game for the Big Blue with 21 points, including a 3-pointer, and 5 rebounds.  Kelley Steers and Megan Mateer scored 13 each, while Andrea Riebock had 5 assists.  Mallory Heydorn led the Titans with 19 points, Crystal Dye had 17, and Christina Solari had another double-double with 12 points and 12 rebounds.

The Big Blue got off quicker, with a couple of 10 point leads in the first half.  The Titans managed to catch up by halftime for a 34 all tie, and then they managed to pull away at the end for a final score of 77-63.

Time to go empty the saucepans and check the weather map.  Looking forward to hearing the reports from around the conference!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 06, 2008, 10:13:29 am
Elmhurst dominated North Central last night from start to finish, jumping out to a 15-2 early lead, and was up by 16 at half.  They built the lead up to 25 in the second half, and emptied the bench with about five minutes remaining.  Lyndsie Long had her usual outstanding game, scoring 19 on 7 of 11 shooting, and Brittany Bobruk turned in a double double with 16 points and 11 rebounds despite having to sit early due to foul trouble.  For North Central, Brianne Parra came off the bench to score 18, and Barb Williams had 13 before fouling out with about eight minutes remaining.  Elmhurst clearly came to play; they shot over 50 percent for the game, played well in transition, and capitalized on NC's 19 turnovers with 33 points.  This was a big game for the Bluejays, giving them a two game lead for the fourth playoff spot with the season winding down.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 06, 2008, 03:18:47 pm
Jaywatch, my favorite play from last night's game was when Lyndsie Long prevented a turnover through very quick thinking.
She was turning a corner and slipped, just as a pass was headed her way. While falling to the floor sideways, she reached out and batted the ball directly to a teammate. That's the sort of effort that makes Elmhurst such a fun team to watch.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 06, 2008, 03:48:09 pm
Rog, I wish I had seen more of their games last year so that I could compare the two squads.  It seems like Coach Forbes has transformed the team into one that focuses on hustle and defense.  Both Long and Bobruk were good players last year, and they are evolving into top notch players in the conference.  Candace Sutton can be very explosive at times.  I know Illinois Wesleyan got alot of pre-season press about their freshman class, but I don't believe any team in the conference plays as many freshman as Elmhurst.  Kelsey Monroe has stepped up as a solid starter, and usually defends the opponents top perimeter scorer.   She also has appeared on the conference leaders list in various categories (free throw percentage, steals, three point percentage, etc.).  Claire Gentry comes off the bench early and plays with alot of poise, and leads the conference in assist to turnover ratio.  Christine Randick has been playing well lately, and has been putting up some points.  Sarah Halbrader is a deadly three point shooter, and has had some nice scoring games.  There are others who play decent minutes, as well--Charnelle Harris and Anna Randazzo are both fast and very athletic, and show promise.  I think Coach Forbes and her staff have done a nice job putting together her experienced players with the youngsters, and they are all starting to jell together.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 06, 2008, 04:06:36 pm
Rog and Jaywatch,

Thanks for the update.  I am looking forward to seeing Elmhurst when they visit IWU in a couple of weeks.  It has seemed to me that a lot of the names I recognize from last year--Lyndsie Long, Brittany Bobruk, and Candace Sutton in particular--have become more productive this season.  Looks like Coach Forbes has accomplished a lot in her first year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 06, 2008, 07:20:58 pm
A little bit more on yesterday's action :
Rosie Dorn (another good freshman) led Carthage with 21 pts, 11 reb in their victory over North Park.
Wheaton got fairly balanced production from a lot of players in their win at Augustana. For Augie, freshman forward Jeanelle Strohmaier had her 4th straight good game off the bench, 9 pts 7 reb in 14:00; over those four games, she is 12/19 FG, 8/11 Ft, 32 pts and 18 reb in 55 minutes. Not bad.
IWU's Crystal Dye again had a nice pile of rebounds, nine (plus 17 pts) -- she's listed at 5'5" but plays like 5'11" (approximately).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 07, 2008, 10:04:03 am
Here's a nice article about Augie's freshman Strohmaier as she was finishing up her high school career at Genoa-Kingston.

http://www.daily-chronicle.com/articles/2007/02/06/sports/sports01.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 10, 2008, 11:19:42 am
The IWU Titans visited King Arena yesterday to play the Wheaton Thunder and came away with a 68-59 win.  The Thunder got off to a quicker start, pulling away to a 25-15 lead as the Titan shots failed to drop.  With under 5:00 to go in the first half, the Titans seemed to come to life:  three 3-pointers by Claire Sheehan and two by Sarah Bull gave the Titans a 30-29 halftime edge.  Coach Mia Smith looked at the clock as the buzzer sounded and said, "We're ahead?"--indicative of the fast pace of the last few minutes.  (I think she was kidding!)

The Titans scored the first eight points of the second half, bringing the margin to 38-29, and then the Thunder went on a 9-2 run, cutting the margin to 40-38.  After that, Sarah Bull hit a key 3-pointer, and the lead was never less than five.

Individual performances:  Sheehan stood out for the Titans, with 23 points (7-14 overall, and 4-9 on 3s), 5 rebounds, 2 assists, and 4 steals.  Other starters Mallory Heydorn, Sarah Bull, and Crystal Dye all scored in double figures, and while center Christina Solari (who scored 19 in the teams' first meeting) was held to 4 points, she brought down a game-high 15 rebounds.  Kathleen Fidelia led the Thunder with 14 points, 4 assists and 4 steals, and other starters Sarah Jones and Claire Glass scored in double figures and netted 9 and 8 rebounds, respectively.  The rebounding totals were dead equal at 42 each, although Wheaton held an edge in offensive boards.  A solid, well-coached performance by both teams.

The trip back down I-55 was more interesting than usual due to high winds, with nasty gusts, often due to passing cars, trucks, and overpasses.  Thank goodness there was no snow!


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 10, 2008, 12:01:55 pm
Glad ya got back safely, Hoosier Titan! Sounds like Claire Sheehan had a very fine game. She can score from all over the floor.
With yesterday's results, the CCIW standings have symmetry :
IWU    9-1
Carth  8-2
Mill      7-3
EC      6-4
NC      4-6
Whe   3-7
Aug    2-8
NP      1-9

North Central triumphed over Carthage 65-55. Barb Williams poured in 28 pts and had 10 rebs. Gia Navarra also grabbed 10. Brianne Parra contributed her customary 19 pts and 7 rebs. Perhaps most important for the Cardinals, they had only 10 turnovers.
Millikin had a 44-19 half and won over Augustana 77-55. Lindsay Ippel made sure of the outcome, hitting 14/18 FGs and 6/8 FTs for an impressive 34 pts.
Elmhurst got past North Park 66-50.
The composite 2FG shooting was a bleak 28/110 (EC 21-67 and NP 7/43).
The Bluejay defense induced 38 Viking turnovers.
In the midst of that, NP's Andrea Perez had her best game yet : 21 pts, 3 blocks, 4 steals and 6 rebs.
North Park asks a lot from a few players. LaRae Kostreva and Stylianee Damianides deserve multiple pats on the head for all the tiring minutes they've played. Amanda Phillips has valiantly persevered with at least one bad foot all year.
Those three can return next season, but Perez and forward Crissy Komperda can't. The Vikings need lots of help for '08-09 if they intend to compete with the upper level of the conference.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 13, 2008, 01:19:37 pm
Not much action on the board, probably because there were few if any surprises last night.  I got out to see the Elmhurst victory over a short handed Carthage squad, 72-64, which was Carthage's third loss in their last four games.  Carthage probably blames a long bus ride in the snow for their slow start in the game, going down 15-0 in the first five minutes against Elmhurst's smothering full court press.  Carthage then made some runs of their own, and it was a four point game by halftime, and remained about that close for most of the second half.  Both teams shot pretty well from the field, in the 45-46% range, and although Carthage's free throw percentage was only just above 50%, there were not a lot of shooting fouls called so it was not a substantial factor in the loss.  Candace Sutton was in her explosive mode for Elmhurst, scoring 20 and at just over 5' tall pulling down 7 rebounds.  Lyndsie Long added 15 and 6 rebounds, and Kelsey Monroe had 15 points and 4 steals, and generally made life miserable for Carthage's guards with her stifling defense.  With starters Katie Jarger and Carlie Janowiak out with injuries, Carthage was led by Rosie Dorn with 13, Lisa Gartelos with 11 and 5 rebounds, and Heather Gilmore with 10 points and 7 assists.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 13, 2008, 01:57:54 pm
Hi Jaywatch, I just wrote up a review of that game but it disappeared when I hit Post. I'll try to re-compose it later in the day. Gotta work now, dang it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 13, 2008, 03:25:58 pm
A few thoughts to supplement your report, Jaywatch :
The game was hard-fought and well-played.
Candice Sutton is showing great senior leadership, as she completes her collegiate career. Her intensity was contagious, for sure, last night. You mentioned Elmhurst’s smothering press, in which many players participated, starters and reserves. Monroe was definitely prominent.
Brittany Bobruk’s 9 defensive rebounds were vital to limiting Carthage’s 2nd chance scoring. And Maggie McTeague made 3 or 4 superb defensive plays near the basket, stopping what would have been easy hoops for the Lady Reds. Lyndsie Long battled with Carthage's big players.
Claire Gentry played very well down the stretch. Having her and Sutton on the floor at that stage of the contest was a sharp move by Coach Tethnie Forbes. Forbes is having quite a good debut as a head coach, isn’t she.
For Carthage, Heather Gilmore and Rosie Dorn again played with much energy and good results. I think I’ve referred to them as freshmen in earlier posts, but that wasn’t quite accurate. They are sophs, but neither played in ’06-07, so they may be able to play four years, if they want. Erika Buchholz had her usual fine game.
With Janowiak on crutches (ankle sprain, I heard), Katie Klemke performed a lot of the dribbling duty for Carthage and did so effectively : one turnover in 20 minutes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 13, 2008, 04:37:01 pm
Rog, that is an interesting combination when Sutton and Gentry play together on the floor for Elmhurst.  Sutton is not a prototypical shooting guard, but she can shoot from the perimeter and slash to the basket, plays much bigger than she is inside, and certainly holds her own in rebounding.  With her quickness, she creates match up problems for the other team's off guard.  Gentry is a prototypical point guard who looks to set up her teammates to score first, shoot second.  She handles the ball with confidence, and sees the floor well.
Didn't mean to overlook the others you mention--it was a well played game with many players contributing for both teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 13, 2008, 05:01:17 pm
Not a problem that you left something for me to write about!
By the way, I don't expect Elmhurst to use Sutton and Gentry together for long stretches, but it seemed to work well, at least against one team on one night.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 13, 2008, 07:09:41 pm
Illinois Wesleyan improved to 10-1 by stomping Augustana 90-33. Some of that is due to the fact that IWU is very good and is not shy about proving it.
Sarah Bull scored 19 in 21:00, including 5/8 threes. Colleen Caplice had 8 rebounds in 12:00 as a reserve; she's quite a good player and helps make the Titans very deep.
Lindsay Ippel had another productive evening (27 pts, 12 rebs) as Millikin tied Carthage at 8-3 by upending Wheaton 62-36. The Thunder starting five shot 2/29. Kelley Steers provided 12 pts and 6 rebs for Millikin.
Barb Williams had another big game (25, 10, 3blks, 3 stl) as North Central kept in the playoff hunt by coming back from a 32-24 deficit to defeat North Park 70-57. Amber Cibrario assisted on three straight Brianne Parra baskets to put the comeback in motion.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 13, 2008, 07:38:31 pm
Illinois Wesleyan improved to 10-1 by stomping Augustana 90-33. Some of that is due to the fact that IWU is very good and is not shy about proving it.
Sarah Bull scored 19 in 21:00, including 5/8 threes. Colleen Caplice had 8 rebounds in 12:00 as a reserve; she's quite a good player and helps make the Titans very deep.
Lindsay Ippel had another productive evening (27 pts, 12 rebs) as Millikin tied Carthage at 8-3 by upending Wheaton 62-36. The Thunder starting five shot 2/29. Kelley Steers provided 12 pts and 6 rebs for Millikin.
Barb Williams had another big game (25, 10, 3blks, 3 stl) as North Central kept in the playoff hunt by coming back from a 32-24 deficit to defeat North Park 70-57. Amber Cibrario assisted on three straight Brianne Parra baskets to put the comeback in motion.

The bolded phrasing sounds like an accusation of 'running up the score' (though your incluson of the limited minutes of Bull and Caplice makes me think that was not your intent).  I've been involved in discussions on several boards about running up the score and how to avoid it (including the opinions, which I don't share, that it is the job of the losing team to get better, and 'tough beans' if the score gets out of hand).  As a youth soccer coach I've been a party to 12-0 scores in both directions, and (while I hated losing that way!) I was more embarassed to win that way - did I miss some opportunity to hold down the score?

Clearly, once the outcome is obvious, your starters should be sitting (though even there an argument could be made that they need 'game time' to prepare for tougher opponents and it would be unfair if they didn't get post-season accolades because they didn't play much).  Since the subs are competing for playing time, it seems rather unfair to keep them from showing their best.  Slow down the game?  Seems reasonable, but if that is not the normal style, are the subs getting a fair chance to show what they can do in your system?  And perhaps the ultimate: if a sub, up by 50, chooses not to score on a steal-and-breakaway, is that even more humiliating to the losing team than the extra points?

I don't know if this topic is of any interest to the (few) posters on this board, but I sure am torn on the best way to handle 'routs'.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on February 13, 2008, 07:43:31 pm
Illinois Wesleyan improved to 10-1 by stomping Augustana 90-33. Some of that is due to the fact that IWU is very good and is not shy about proving it.
IWU led at halftime by 33 (52-19).  The score had been tied at 9 all at the 15:30 mark.  The Titans went on a 21-2 run to produce a 19 pt lead (30-11) with 7:58 to go.  After a couple of minutes to get oxygen, the Titans went on an 18-3 run at the 5:37 mark to finsh out the half. 

I don't think you pull the starters with 7:58 to go in the 1st even with a 19 point lead.  And, I don't think a coach breaks the flow even when on an 18-3 run with another half to play.

No IWU starter played more than 21 minutes; and, for that matter, no Augie starter played more than 22 minutes.  It appears both coaches emptied their benches to finsh out the 2nd half with IWU out scoring Augie by 24 (38-14).  Maybe Coach Smith should have spotted Augie points?

Not the largest margin of victory for the Lady Titans this season whom defeated MSOE 114-40 12/29
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jdoug2 on February 13, 2008, 08:37:33 pm
I'm usually on the SLIAC board, hope it's ok to give my two cents on the subject of routes. I've always thought if you keep your key player's minutes down, there is not much else you can do. If players 9-12 are still too good... that's the issue of the team getting run. There is a shot clock and the subs need to play whatever system their team runs. Granted it sucks to see your team getting pressed when they are down 40pts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 13, 2008, 11:41:54 pm
Hi all,

I was at the IWU-Augustana game last night and wondered if there would be any question of whether the Titans purposely ran up the score (although I realize that no one has said that).  They did not.  The Titans play up-tempo basketball, using a full court press and trapping at times.  They used it in the first half to go on the 27-0 run early in the game.  After that, they backed off and did not press, but they continued playing their style of basketball.   I think that's only fair, especially late in the season with the conference and NCAA tournaments looming.  Players need to play.  As others have noted, no IWU player was in for more than 21 minutes; Mallory Heydorn played only 17 and hardly played at all in the second half.

I don't know what the answer is, either.  It is to Augustana's credit that they did not give up trying to execute their game plan.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 14, 2008, 03:23:10 pm
I don’t have any objection to IWU scoring 90. I’m sure they could have done 125 or more, if they had the intent to run up the score.
I do feel some sympathy for the Augustana kids, especially since they are going through yet another trying season. But I don’t really know if a 90-55 or 90-67 loss (if IWU had let up some on defense) would’ve made them any happier.

Have any of you started thinking about the all-conference team yet? I think a good argument can be made for all five IWU starters to be on it. Certainly some from Carthage, Millikin and Elmhurst, too. Barb Williams from NC and LaRae Kosreva from NP should be there.
I'm partial for Stylianee Damianides of NP being recognized for doing the point guard duties for practically every second and for being one of the better defenders in the league, but I don't know if NP gets more than one player.
Any Wheaton players? Becky Rehn / Augie?
I don't know Millikin well enough to speculate about whom Coach Kerans will nominate besides you-know-who.
Coaches usually lean toward nominating seniors if there's a close call.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 14, 2008, 04:04:42 pm
Anybody know the selection procedure?  Does the coach nominate their own players, or players from other teams?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 14, 2008, 04:22:23 pm
Here 'tis :
V.   ALL CONFERENCE
The following format will be utilized.

A.   1st team – 5 players
2nd team – 5 players
Honorable mention team – no more than 5 additional players

B.   Each coach may nominate players from his/her team as all-conference candidates.  Coaches may not vote for their own player(s).

C.   Each vote is worth one point and each coach votes for 5 players.  In the case of a tie, there will be a re-vote to break the tie, involving only those players involved in the tie.

D.   Voting will proceed as follows:

1.   Nominations for 1st team (only), followed by a vote

2.   Nominations for 2nd team (only) and student-athletes not selected for the first team will automatically be nominated for the 2nd team followed by a vote.

3.   Nominations for the 3rd team (only) and student-athletes not selected for the second team will automatically be nominated for the 3rd team, followed by a vote.

E.   A most outstanding player is selected from the five-member first team immediately after the first team voting has been completed. 

F.   Nominations and voting for “Coach of the Year” will follow the completion of the all-conference voting.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 15, 2008, 03:30:31 pm
More about the 15 spots for All-Conference --
While I previously opined that all five IWU starters deserve to be there (if anyone thinks one of 'em doesn't, lets hear why), it is unlikely that all five make it, unless Mia Smith can do some neat negotiating with several other voters (coaches).
Carthage, Millikin and Elmhurst all would doubtless like to see four of their own receive the honor. Already we're out of spaces, not counting the best from North Central, Wheaton, Augie and North Park.
I don't think it's clear-cut who the 15 best are. In fact, there are probably 23 or 24 that would be reasonable selections. A lot of Carthage's players fit into that description -- many have had great games here and there, but not consistently (obviously, Bernero's judgment matters here, not mine!).
What do you astute observers think?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 15, 2008, 05:39:22 pm
Roj, you are right--a team like Carthage will be a tough call because no individual player's statistics stand out, and much of the success of Carthage is due to team defensive statistics that do not show up in the individual stats.  With respect to IWU, I also doubt all five starters will make it.  I haven't seen many of their games, but one could argue that three or four of them have better statistics in conference games and would be the more obvious choices.  Statistics don't tell the entire story about a player, but it is a starting point, particularly when there are so many good players in the conference.  I would think the teams at the top of the conference would earn more selections.  So, North Park will have difficulty getting two players into the top 15.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 17, 2008, 03:18:27 pm
Some notes on Saturday :
IWU shot 59.3 % and had six players in double figures, sailing past North Central 93-68. The Cardinals are thereby out of playoff contention.
It is probable that IWU will host the tournament and face Elmhurst, while Carthage encounters Millikin. If IWU loses its last two regular season matchups and ties somebody at 11-3, things could be shuffled around.
Lisa Gartelos scored 22 and added 7 rebounds for Carthage in their 66-59 defeat of Wheaton. Sarah Jones had 18 pts for W.
In Chicago, Maegan Skahill had 17 pts and 10 rebs and teammate Becky Rehn had 8 assists, 8 rebs and 4 steals to lead Augustana 70-59 over North Park in the rematch battle of the Vikings.
Matters started well for Elmhurst as they got out to a 38-26 halftime lead, thanks to hitting 7 of 11 threes. But Millikin responded with vigor in a 46-29 second half, taking the game by five, 72-67.
Lindsay Ippel used an assortment of nifty swirling movements at the hoop and finished with 34 points. Fans seated behind me spoke of her as "a monster."
Kelley Steers was second for the Big Blue with 15 pts, missing just 1 FT, 1 two and 1 three. She had a huge steal late in the game, topping off a well-rounded performance.
Offensively, Millikin stays spread out and moves the ball around quickly. This makes it tough to have two or three defenders attend to Ippel while simultaneously keeping coverage on 3-point threats Steers and Megan Mateer. Leave them open and you'll regret it. But then, Andrea Riebock and Kayla Pembrook or others will hurt you with a basket or fine pass.
Defensively, Millikin can match Elmhurst for quickness and they have a 2 or 3 inch advantage in height and arm length at every position.
This brings us to one more week of regular season CCIW action. Best of health to everyone and I hope all enjoy the fun of the sport, especially the seniors.
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 18, 2008, 10:04:38 am
A bittersweet day for Elmhurst--on Saturday they clinched the fourth spot in the CCIW tournament with North Central's loss to IWU, but let another game slip away in which the Bluejays led until the final minutes.  Millikin played very well as a team in the comeback, with the guards finding Ippel around the basket with some nice passes, rotating the ball well to find holes in Elmhurst's helpside defense, and knocking down the perimeter shot when Elmhurst tried to send too much help on Ippel.  Ippel uses her body very well to seal the post defender who is fronting her, and showed that she has great hands in catching the entry pass thrown over the top of the defense.  The inside-outside game that Millikin displayed on Saturday is very tough to defend, indeed.
Elmhurst has shown that they can play with any of the top three teams, though, and may be a dangerous foe in the tournament--they just have to put together a full 40 minutes of basketball.  I sensed that they shifted to a conservative mode offensively during the final few minutes when they still had the lead, and momentum then shifted to Millikin.  It also didn't help Elmhurst that their starting post, Brittany Bobruk, was in foul trouble for significant minutes in the second half, forcing them to play smaller, which put them at even more of a disadvantage against Ippel and Co.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 19, 2008, 03:12:35 pm
Discussion issue anyone? --
Unlike soccer or hockey, with their offsides rules, basketball allows players to be stationed anywhere on the court, regardless of where opponents are or where any stripes are painted on the floor.
With that in mind, does anyone besides me wonder why “cherry picking” isn’t used more often?
True, you face a 5-on-4 defensively, but at the offensive end you probably have a 1-on-zero or a 1-on-1, both of which are more dangerous than a 5-on-4, no?
I realize that if it’s a game of younger players, you want all of ‘em playing defense, so they learn how. But at the college level, I would think that some teams (not all) could become good at using “cherry picking” as an offensive option.
Agreement or derision, anyone?
Is the term “cherry picking” still in use, by the way?
Is there a separate term for a player who guards someone near midcourt, but takes off when a shot goes up? Would we include that in a definition of cherry picker? Or is the cherry picker strictly not guarding anyone?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WWWRHH on February 19, 2008, 04:06:50 pm
Cherry picking as a strategy is harder than it looks when playing on a full length basketball court. (I have seen it employed by old guys playing on short courts because they are either too tired and / or lazy to play defense ;))

The defensive team is not only defending with four players, but rebounding with four players.  So it is easier for the offensive team to find a good shot and control the rebound for a second shot.  If the defenders do control the rebound they still have to advance the ball down court before the offensive team transitions to defense, and full length passes after rebounding are hard due to positioning and traffic under the basket.  If the offensive team makes the basket, they can usually recover good defensive position during the time it takes to recover the ball, step out of bounds and inbound.  If a team is successful at employing the strategy, it can be countered by basically making the game 4 on 4.

Cherry picking does not work against a good alert team that can take care of the ball and find the open player.

I think your last point is closer to good, aggressive transition basketball than cherry picking.

Running the court in transition can create real opportunities.  If they are not directly involved with the play (rebounder / inbounder and ball handler) the Hope women release down court immediately following change of control and typically get several opportunities for layups since they are not afraid to make long passes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 20, 2008, 11:30:16 am
Interesting stats on the Illinois Wesleyan thumping of Elmhurst last night.  IWU clearly came to play, and to clinch their top finish in the conference, while Elmhurst came out sluggish and turnover prone.  The lead was 15 at half, and in the mid 20s throughout the second half.  With about five minutes remaining, and down about 24, Elmhurst subbed in a lineup made up of entirely freshmen.  IWU responded by subbing its starters back in, and its last two starters didn't leave the game until around 30 seconds remaining, and up 29.  Heydorn ended up with 35 minutes, Solari 31, Dye 28 and Sheehan 27 minutes.
There were recent posts discussing whether IWU ran up the score against Augustana.  Perhaps against Elmhurst IWU was trying to make a statement against their first playoff foe?  Perhaps they were trying to reach the century mark in the game?  I suspect the first reason is a possibility, although it may also cause the opponent to come into the next contest fired up to play.  In any event, playing the starters deep into a blow out seems to be done at the expense of the bench players who would like to get onto the floor, and at the expense of getting experience to the younger team members.  And then there is the risk of injury to a starter during "garbage minutes" at a time when the team is getting ready for the playoffs.
Hoosier Titan, any thoughts?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 20, 2008, 12:50:14 pm
Jaywatch, without addressing your issue right now, I have another question.
There was a play Saturday, partially blocked from my view, where Candice Sutton was descending from a layup and may have konked heads with Lyndsie Long. Do you know if that collision occurred?
I note that Long played only 19 minutes last night. Is she not at 100%?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jaywatch on February 20, 2008, 01:26:39 pm
Roj, I have not heard of an injury to Long, and I do not think her limited playing time last night was due to injury. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 20, 2008, 01:33:24 pm
Thanks, Jaywatch.
Regarding your issue about IWU :
I suspect IWU was "making a statement" and maybe attempting to demoralize Elmhurst via a substantial win.
I doubt that they were trying to reach 100. While they are close to being the highest scoring D3 team, they don't really push things in an effort to break scoring records. For that, I refer you to the NAIA Olivet Nazarene women. They average 105 compared to IWU's 86. They shoot 49 threes per game, IWU only 28.
Anyway, I think it's within the boundaries of sportsmanship for one good team to clobber another good team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 20, 2008, 01:42:27 pm
Jaywatch,

I am not going to be able to give you a full story about minutes last night because I was not at the game until about the 12:00 mark of the second half (a major academic event was scheduled in conflict with the game--it seems no university is small enough to avoid scheduling conflicts.  ??? :( ) I actually rushed in with my academic robes in arms.

I do not think anyone last week actually accused IWU of running up the score--there was just a discussion of how to avoid blowouts.  I am quite sure that if Mia Smith had the goal of scoring 100 points, the Titans could have done so (or at least they would have played with more urgency).  There were possessions with lots of passes; maybe they were working on that aspect of their game.  It's true that the starters played more minutes than they have in some games lately.  Should the Titans advance into and through the NCAA tournament, it's reasonable to expect that the games will not be blowouts and that the starters and selected subs should be getting used to playing longer minutes.  Also, as height is not the Titans' strong point, finding the extra pass that will lead to an open shot will be crucial in the NCAAs, if and when the Titans get there.

Those are my thoughts at the moment.  I know Mia Smith appreciates the efforts of student athletes on both teams and I do not think she would purposely run the score up.  Still, I know it's not fun.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on February 20, 2008, 02:28:00 pm
It's true that the starters played more minutes than they have in some games lately.  Should the Titans advance into and through the NCAA tournament, it's reasonable to expect that the games will not be blowouts and that the starters and selected subs should be getting used to playing longer minutes. 
Jaywatch, I think Hoosier Titan has it about right when you check the distribution of minutes last night.  Coach Smith went about 9 deep last night; what a team needs to do to win the CCIW Tournament to lock-up the AQ.  Any team with NCAA Tournament hopes needs a strong starting 5 + 4 if it wants to go beyond the first round of the NCAA Tournament.  No team can really afford to wait until NCAA Tournament time to fine tune that 5+4.  Sooner is better to get that group working as one. The Titans need to think, play and execute because it's really "one and done" time.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 20, 2008, 05:45:35 pm
I just remembered something:  Coach Smith put all four seniors in with about 5 minutes to go, with the intention of bringing them out one at a time so that they could get a nice ovation at their last home game.  There were almost no dead balls after that point; she had to call two rolling timeouts to make the substitutions.  But that added 4-5 minutes for Bull, Dye, Gravlin, and Sanchez. 

Of the non-seniors, Mallory Heydorn and Christina Solari had the most minutes and they both had reasons for needing playing time:  Heydorn has/had a sore Achilles tendon and her minutes have been limited.  I assume she's feeling better (else she surely would have been out most of the second half), and needs game time.  And Solari played with four fouls for quite a while--given the Titans' lack of depth at the post, she needs to practice playing in that situation.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on February 20, 2008, 06:37:31 pm
I just remembered something:  Coach Smith put all four seniors in with about 5 minutes to go, with the intention of bringing them out one at a time so that they could get a nice ovation at their last home game.  There were almost no dead balls after that point; she had to call two rolling timeouts to make the substitutions.  But that added 4-5 minutes for Bull, Dye, Gravlin, and Sanchez. 

Of the non-seniors, Mallory Heydorn and Christina Solari had the most minutes and they both had reasons for needing playing time:  Heydorn has/had a sore Achilles tendon and her minutes have been limited.  I assume she's feeling better (else she surely would have been out most of the second half), and needs game time.  And Solari played with four fouls for quite a while--given the Titans' lack of depth at the post, she needs to practice playing in that situation.
Giving the seniors one last time in the Shirk during a regular season game was my other thought.  Glad you posted back.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 20, 2008, 06:58:35 pm
In Decatur last night, the local partisans probably gave a most appreciative send-off to Millikin's nice flock of seniors. The Big Blue shot 64.2%, topping North Central 83-58.
Lindsay Ippel, had 26 pts, 6 blocks and 11 rebs.
In Kenosha, Carthage won, getting past Augustana 67-55.
The game I saw saw Wheaton get out to a 20-8 lead, slowly --- this was 2/3 through the first half. The quality of play was such that I thought I would have to go home and wash my eyes. Fortunately, things perked up. The teams played more or less even to make it 31-20 at the half.
NP had a bit more consistent intensity than Wheaton did in the second half and "made a game of it." But Claire Glass coolly hit a bunch of FTs to save the game (60-56) for Wheaton.
LaRae Kostreva had 17 rebounds and 4 blocks for NP.
This has been a weird ending for Wheaton’s season. They competed quite well against strong non-conference teams. But things soured since then. The injuries to Lynnea Kvam and Lissie McAlvey hurt for sure. The Thunder will likely do better next year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 20, 2008, 07:07:45 pm
What do you-all think about 1st Team all-CCIW?
I say Lindsay Ippel, Lyndsie Long, Christina Solari and Sarah Bull. These four have been consistently outstanding. Can't decide on the other spot.
Carthage would deserve someone, but which one?
Does anyone disagree with my four above?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 21, 2008, 02:24:01 pm
From SI "Faces in the Crowd" this week: Erin Higgins (Kenosha).  "Erin, a junior guard at St. Joseph's High, scored all 35 of the Lancers' points in a 50-35 loss to Wetosha Central, hitting 13 field goals, including five three-pointers, and getting 13 rebounds.  She is averaging 19.7 points and has 1,943 for her career.  She is also the Lakeshore Conference's soccer player of the year."

Wow!  Not knowing anything about the level of play in that conference, is she a likely scholarship player, or is Carthage on her like white on rice?! ;)  [Or perhaps a 'steal' for another CCIW team?]
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 21, 2008, 05:03:20 pm
"White on rice," Ypsi?  I have never heard that before!

Rog, I think Ippel and Solari are locks.  I know Long's numbers and I won't argue against her; she just hasn't had great games when I've seen Elmhurst.  I have the same problem as you when I look at the numbers for Carthage.  My memory says "Jarger," but looking at stats I see Janowiak, Buchholz, and Lieberman's names as well.  I think North Central's Brianne Parra is the best power player in the league and I'd like to see her on one of the lists, although that may not fly as she's not starting at the moment.  And I'll go with Sarah Bull, although Crystal Dye deserves recognition somewhere.  So I have:

Ippel
Solari
Long
Bull
Jarger(?) 

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 21, 2008, 07:20:47 pm
Mr Ypsi,
That kid in Kenosha sounds like a top athlete. If she was a secret before, she ain't now.
Hoosier Titan,
Parra is a very reliable low-post scorer and rebounder. My guess, though, is that Barb Williams would be the first choice from NC. Williams is shooting around 57% in CCIW play. Her 15.0 pts avg could have been higher had she better avoided foul trouble in several games.
Too bad there isn't a CCIW all star game. Then, more than 15 players could be honored.
Janowiak directs the Carthage offense very well. She could be their 1st team candidate. Buchholz plays as hard as anyone.
I agree with you about Dye. She'll be on the all-conference team somewhere. Sheehan and Heydorn are certainly among the conference's best, too.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 22, 2008, 06:37:16 pm
To those who will play their final college game tomorrow, I hope your last shots all go in. Even your last four or five shots!

For anyone who needs a major basketball fix : next Friday and Saturday, not only is there the CCIW tournament at IWU in Bloomington, but the class 3A and 4A girls state finals will be going on a few miles away at ISU Redbird Arena. See ihsa.org
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 23, 2008, 08:42:17 pm
IWU    13-1         NP    1-13
Mill      11-3        Aug   3-11
Carth  10-4        Whe  4-10
EC        8-6          NC    6-8 
(symmetry returns)
I attended NC's 53-48 win at Wheaton. Several players did well for North Central, but I thought Meghan McGuire in particular came through big when needed. W's Kathleen Fidelia led all with 25 pts.
IWU wrapped up an excellent regular season by topping Carthage 75-56.
Millikin had no difficulty at North Park, winning 77-38.
Elmhurst edged Augustana 78-74. Lyndsie Long scored 26. Augie's Becky Rehn had 18 pts and 8 steals. That should help her make the all-conference team, methinks.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 27, 2008, 07:06:50 pm
Conference-games-only two-point FG shooting stats :
                      07-08                                  06-07
Millikin        .548  (270/493)              .482 (260/539)
IWU           .540  (283/524)              .429 (225/524)
Carthage   .510  (295/578)              .457 (257/562)
North C      .458  (277/605)              .457 (263/575)
Elmhurst    .434  (288/664)              .369 (240/651)
Augustana .389  (246/633)              .398 (257/646)
Wheaton   .386  (250/648)              .439 (259/590)
North P      .342  (193/564)              .424 (230/542)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: HCACBBALL on February 28, 2008, 07:09:57 pm
What is going to happen this weekend?  Does IWU walk away with this or can someone challenge them? 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 28, 2008, 07:16:46 pm
More conference-games-only stats:
Offense distribution:
                    PTS        via threes           via 2 FG             via FTs
IWU           1135    363 (32% of 1135) 566 (50%)     206 (18%)
EC             1008       243 (24%)           576 (57%)     189  (19%)
MIL             984        267 (27%)           540 (55%)     177 (18%)
CART          940        186 (20%)           590 (63%)      164 (17%)
NC             888         105 (12%)          554 (62%)      229 (26%)
WHE          805         126 (16%)           500 (62%)     179 (22%)
AUG           800         108 (13.5%)       492 (61.5%)    200 (25%)
NP              706        141 (20%)           386 (55%)      179 (25%)                   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 29, 2008, 02:25:35 pm
HCACBBALL,
Since November 17, only Millikin has beaten Illinois Wesleyan.
But, Millikin first has to defeat Carthage, against whom they are 0-2 this season.
Elmhurst beat Carthage once, but is 0-2 vs IWU.
IWU should be favored to win and is playing on its home court.
Beyond that, who can say? 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 29, 2008, 06:05:16 pm
The CCIW all-conference team is in :
Player of the Year -- Lindsay Ippel.
Coach of the Year -- Mia Smith.
1st team - Ippel, Lyndsie Long, Carlie Janowiak, Mallory Heydorn, Barb Williams
2nd team - Crystal Dye, Sarah Bull, Brianne Parra, Kathleen Fidelia, Katie Jarger
3rd team - Becky Rehn, LaRae Kostreva, Erika Buchholz, Andrea Riebock, Brittany Bobruk
-
Congrats to each!
No Solari?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 29, 2008, 07:52:58 pm
Elmhurst LEADS IWU by 1 at halftime.  Super upset, or will the 'inevitable' happen in the second half? ???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on February 29, 2008, 09:27:50 pm
Elmhurst LEADS IWU by 1 at halftime.  Super upset, or will the 'inevitable' happen in the second half? ???
Beep - Beep - Vroomm!! Titans turn on the after burners to pull away for a win 78-57 win. - "The Titans were led by the 27 point explosion from junior Claire Sheehan (shown), while sophomore Christina Solari had 12 points and 12 rebounds. Senior Crystal Dye added 12 points and senior Sarah Bull also scored 11 for the Titans, who trailed 35-34 at halftime. (Source: IWU Sports Information)"  Very nice work ladies!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 29, 2008, 10:05:48 pm
That was my expectation of the second half, but thought it only fair to alert potential listeners to what would have been the game of the year! :D

So, about those omissions on the all-conference team: were Sheehan and Solari a bit ticked off? ;)  Next year, leave off ALL the Titans - we'll take the Walnut-and-Bronze in a romp! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 29, 2008, 10:53:05 pm
Congrats to IWU and Millikin for tonight's wins.
Indeed that was a splendid performance by Sheehan, but I doubt that exclusion from the all-conference team provided any motivation to her or Solari; I think they just like to excel at basketball.
Millikin topped Carthage in the nitecap, 49-48, thanks to a game-winning free throw by Lindsay Ippel.
We shall see who has enough energy left for tomorrow's championship game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 01, 2008, 05:51:35 pm
The Titans of IWU are the champs of the CCIW!
With leads of up to 28, they rolled past Millikin 75-64.
Both sides gave it all they had.
Christina Solari had a highly productive 24 minutes, including 22 pts and 15 rebs.
Mallory Heydorn fired in 19 pts. Of course, many others contributed greatly, particularly in IWU's press and half-court defense.
M's Lindsay Ippel had 25 pts and 8 rebs. If that was it for her career, it was stellar. We aren't likely to see a player like her very often.
Seniors Megan Mateer, Kelley Steers and Andrea Riebock may also have done their last work for the Big Blue. Hats off to them, too. As some post-game tears were flowing, I saw Wheaton coach Beth Baker go over and give a consoling hug to Riebock. Nice of Baker to show that players' efforts are appreciated even by a coach of a team that wasn't involved in the game.
Maybe the most impressive single play of the afternoon was when M's Kayla Pembrook made a diving deflection of a pass that was imminently going to produce an IWU fastbreak layup.
-
 Best of luck to Illinois Wesleyan in their drive to a national title. Hopefully, more than one CCIW team will get into the D3 tourney. But, if not, IWU will represent us well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 02, 2008, 11:30:53 am
Congratulations to all the teams, who represented their schools well in the conference tourney.

Although Elmhurst loses senior point guard Candice Sutton, Brittany Bobruk and all-conference first team player Lyndsie Long will return, along with a good group of younger players.  Claire Gentry especially impressed taking over the point position.

Carthage loses seniors Erika Buchholz, Carlie Janowiak, and Lisa Gartelos but will return Katie Jarger and Shana Lieberman.  The Lady Reds battled hard with Millikin in the first game Friday night and could have won had a few balls bounced differently.

The title game was, predictably, a battle of wills between the two teams.  Millikin wanted to play a half-court game and get the ball into Lindsay Ippel in the low post, where she is usually as unstoppable as any player, female or male, I've ever seen.  IWU wanted to run and pressure, to keep the Big Blue from doing just that.  For the most part, the Titans were successful, and they played at a high level of intensity for most of the game. 

I'm going to paraphrase Titan Q (a major poster on the CCIW men's board, and the radio color commentator for IWU men's broadcasts) on the IWU men's handling of Wheaton's Kent Raymond Friday night.  Q said that, strange as it might sound, IWU handled Raymond well, even though he scored 34 points.  In the case of the IWU women, even though Lindsay Ippel scored 25 points, (7 baskets and 11 free throws), I think the Titans handled her well.  Stats:  Ippel scored the first two Millikin baskets, and then did not score another basket until about 7:30 remained in the game, with the Titans up by 28.  She made free throws along the way--and the fouls leading to all those FTs caused a lot of substitutions caused a lot of shuffling of the Titan lineup, with Christina Solari and Crystal Dye eventually fouling out.  But Ippel never really became an offensive force, even with 25 points.

In today's Pantagraph story both Mia Smith and Lori Kerans credit the Titan pressure with taking the Big Blue out of their offense.  They rarely got the ball over half court with more than 15 seconds on the shot clock, and more often it was 12 or 13.  As Kerans said, "...Although we knew what to do, doing it on paper and doing it...is two different things." 

It's a credit to the Big Blue that, even under such pressure, they led the Titans in assists, with Ippel handing out 5, and Andrea Riebock and Kayla Pembrook each handing out 3.

Well done, all!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 02, 2008, 11:34:28 am
The d3hoops projected pairings are up.  They have IWU traveling to Clearview Heights, KY, home of Thomas More College, to play, along with Fontbonne and Chicago.  I confess that in my thinking I'd been looking more north and west for possible opponents, rather than primarily south and east.  Any thoughts from others?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 02, 2008, 11:38:32 am
You beat me to it, HT.  I'm hoping their prediction is wrong.  If we're to get to Salem, we obviously have to beat some tough teams, but I was (and so far am) hoping that won't include facing an undefeated team on their home court quite so early!

Oh well, the men did it just two years ago at Lawrence, so if we have to, let's do it!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 02, 2008, 11:57:27 am
GMTA, Ypsi.  (Well, green-tinted minds, that is.)   I too hope the NCAA sees it differently, but we'll just have to wait and see.  The '06 Titan men's march to Salem is an inspiration, should that be necessary.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 03, 2008, 09:33:30 am
IWU will host this weekend.  The Titans play Maryville (not Manchester!), while U. Wisconsin Whitewater plays Manchester.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 03, 2008, 11:31:46 am
IWU will host this weekend.  The Titans play Manchester, while U. Wisconsin Whitewater plays Manchester.

Wow!  Manchester got a tough draw! ;D ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: buf on March 03, 2008, 11:34:43 am
IWU will host this weekend.  The Titans play Manchester, while U. Wisconsin Whitewater plays Manchester.

Wow!  Manchester got a tough draw! ;D ;)

I guess they will have to do split squads, like they do in preseason baseball.  ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 03, 2008, 12:02:58 pm
Yikes!  A fool in a hurry....

Sorry 'bout that--hope nobody took me seriously!  Do we have an emoticon for red-faced embarassment?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 03, 2008, 12:30:02 pm
Yikes!  A fool in a hurry....

Sorry 'bout that--hope nobody took me seriously!  Do we have an emoticon for red-faced embarassment?

 :-[  Fifth from the right on the emoticon bar.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 03, 2008, 12:52:13 pm
HT--> :-[

I blushed more than that little guy when I saw it!

Any thoughts on the pairings yet?  I hope to do a little research over lunch.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 03, 2008, 02:13:24 pm
FWIW, my assessment:

While assuming nothing, the Titans should handle Maryville.  I'd expect they will next face UWW - that scares me, but I'll count on Shirk magic!

If so, who will be in the sectional, and where will it be?  Third round will probably be either Simpson or UWEC (neither of whom I'm familiar with, but neither of whom seems (currently) a likely host due to geography).  On the other side of the bracket, Amherst seems most like to emerge from their pod, but seems an unlikely host due both to geography and because the Amherst men seem likely to be hosting.  From the other pod, who knows?  WashU can never be discounted, OAC teams are always tough, but I'll go with host DePauw.  The sectional would then seem likely to be either in Greencastle or Bloomington, with (IMO) a likely rematch in the Elite Eight on someone's home floor.  Guess where I'm rooting for?! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 03, 2008, 07:16:20 pm
Hoosier Titan,
It was fun to meet you and your husband at the Shirk over the weekend.
I concur with your compliments (in reply # 612) toward the four CCIW tourney teams. They can all be proud of their ’07-’08 accomplishments.
Some major revisions await Carthage and Millikin for next season.
They won’t be sending the ball in to Ippel and Gartelos (March 11 correction -- Gartelos will be back in '08-'09) anymore.
Gartelos, by the way, deserves a lot of applause for battling leg/knee trouble throughout her time at Carthage. Her perseverance really shows how much she likes basketball and her teammates.
While the Lady Reds are losing fine players to graduation, Coach Bernero recruits well, so he might be able to keep them up around 11 conference wins. I am sold on Rosie Dorn and Heather Gilmore, two energetic medium-sized players who should play more next season.
Like everyone else, Carthage will have to strive for the standard set by IWU, who are likely to be outstanding next year, too.
A vast amount of playing time will be opened up for Millikin, with four ’07-’08 starters moving on.
Elmhurst looks to go 8-6 or better next year, with most everyone coming back a year more experienced.
They had a nice freshman influx this season, topped by Kelsey Monroe, who in CCIW play shot .431 on 3FGs, .563 on 2FGs and .878 FTs. She was 2nd in the league in steals and always maintains a radiant disposition.
The Bluejays will miss Candice Sutton’s ability to accelerate the offense. As you pointed out, Claire Gentry was fitting in well at the end of the season.
IWU proves every time out that it helps to have numerous players who can occupy the role of point guard on any given play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 04, 2008, 06:09:55 pm
Rog, we enjoyed meeting you as well.  I forgot to ask if the B&B was good.

It was really good to see the support for all four teams at the conference tourney.  The Pantagraph story the next day mentioned the "600 Titan faithful," but the attendance of 600 actually was at least half Millikin supporters. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 06, 2008, 01:18:36 pm
Yeah, the B&B (Burr House) was very pleasant.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2008, 04:16:28 pm
The front page has no listing for the IWU/Maryville game for video, audio, or even live stats.  Anyone know of ANY access?  If not (or even if so!), updates would be greatly appreciated from anyone in the know.

I'm not too worried about tonight's game, but if there is no access to the (presumed) IWU/UWW game, I will be very bummed! :(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 07, 2008, 04:51:43 pm
Ypsi,

Here's the link for live stats:
http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/live/Basketball/xlive.htm

And the student broadcasters will be on www.wesn.org at least for the IWU game.  I haven't heard them, so I don't know how "professional" they are, but they'll have the call.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2008, 05:05:37 pm
Ypsi,

Here's the link for live stats:
http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/live/Basketball/xlive.htm

And the student broadcasters will be on www.wesn.org at least for the IWU game.  I haven't heard them, so I don't know how "professional" they are, but they'll have the call.
WJBC2.com (link below) will broadcast the game "joined in progress" as the ISU Redbirds show up tonight at the Men's Basketball MVC Tournament.  Of course, what else would we expect; and, who knows maybe the Redbirds will play!!
http://www.wjbc2.com/ (http://www.wjbc2.com/)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2008, 05:24:32 pm
Thanks to both of you!  I guess my evening is now set. :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2008, 08:48:18 pm
UWW won easily (as expected) - let's not blow the opportunity to meet them!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2008, 09:42:19 pm
34-21 IWU 9:21 remaining 1st half;  at this pace, these teams could set an NCAA tournament records for most points scored
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2008, 10:08:17 pm
Titans up 63-42 at the half - what is this, Grinnell? ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2008, 10:21:16 pm
Titans up 63-42 at the half - what is this, Grinnell? ;)
Groan, I really am going to have to look-up the most points scored in an NCAA tournament game
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2008, 10:28:40 pm
Titans up 63-42 at the half - what is this, Grinnell? ;)
Groan, I really am going to have to look-up the most points scored in an NCAA tournament game

Maybe the subs will ease up - 84-52 w/ 12 to go.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2008, 10:39:07 pm
Titans up 63-42 at the half - what is this, Grinnell? ;)
Groan, I really am going to have to look-up the most points scored in an NCAA tournament game

Maybe the subs will ease up - 84-52 w/ 12 to go.
90-63 7:45 remain IWU single game Most Point Scored Record - 109
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2008, 10:41:45 pm
They hit the century mark with 6 to go - I'd say 109 is toast! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2008, 10:49:21 pm
They hit the century mark with 6 to go - I'd say 109 is toast! ;)
I don't think they are scoring at a fast enough rate/minute to break the men's record of: 132 vs. Grinnell, March 1, 2001 (132-91) [also NCAA D-III tournament record] which was a 3.3 pt/min rate
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2008, 10:53:15 pm
They hit the century mark with 6 to go - I'd say 109 is toast! ;)
TOAST with 1:30 remaining!!!!! ::) :P ;D :o
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2008, 11:10:15 pm
Final IWU 111 Maryville 77 
A very nice win for the Lady Titans who break the program's previous single game high of 109 (at Rockford, 1995-96). The Titans were led by Christina Solari; and, wow, what numbers FG 10-11 FT 5-7 Reb 15 Pts 25; and, by IWU's Claire Sheehan who led all scorer's with 26 points (in 27 minutes of play) hitting 10 of 16 FG including 4-7 behind the arc.  Mallory Heydorn had 15 pts and 9 assits and Sarah Bull contributed 13 points.  IWU out rebounded Maryville 40 to 27.

Maryville had four players record double figures with Allie Wilhelm (fouled out) and Courtney
Bergheger scoring 14 each.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 08, 2008, 12:49:03 am
You guys have stayed on top of things nicely tonight!  I'll add what I can as an eyewitness.

 The Titans came out shooting, and hitting--in the first 2:05, Sarah Bull had 2 3's, and Mallory Heydorn and Claire Sheehan each had one.  I knew Christina Solari was scoring almost at will, but I didn't realize she only missed one shot all night to go 10-11 and set a new single game shooting percentage record.  Claire Sheehan burned Maryville all over the court, on threes and via the patented "Sheehan shimmy" to the basket. 

Maryville did not play as badly as the score might seem to indicate.  Their style is not dissimilar to the Titans'--they like to run and shoot the three.  The threes were not falling, though (they shot 29% for the game).  What pushed the lead from 20 at the half to close to 40 early in the second half was the Titans' zone defense--Maryville tried to shoot threes and they would not go down.  So there was defense being played, regardless of what the score might suggest!

The IWU students made a good showing tonight.  Most of the season the pep band have been almost the only students in attendance, but there were several hundred students in attendance--including several members of the men's team leading cheers--and the Titan faithful had a good time.

Whitewater will be a tough test tomorrow--it will be the Warhawks' size and strength against the Titans' speed.  We shall see!

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 08, 2008, 09:46:39 am
Here is the Pantagraph's article on the IWU/Maryville (Mo) game and the boxscore...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/03/08/usports/doc47d22929edda5269720473.txt

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2008/NCAA2.HTM


“They shot 65 percent,” Saints’ coach Chris Ellis said of IWU’s 23 of 35 first half. “That’s ridiculous. Nobody does that. It’s not like we weren’t guarding them.”

Two Solari three-point plays were part of a 10-0 Wesleyan second-half surge that put the Titans ahead 82-50.

“I’m really impressed with Christina’s ballgame,” said Smith. “Lately she’s been unstoppable. I like her mentality looking for her shot more. And there’s not a player on the floor who wants a rebound more than she does right now.”


On tonight:

“You’re going to see strength and power (in Whitewater) versus speed and finesse,” Smith said of today’s matchup. “We have to be a little quicker.”



1700 at the Shirk Center - what a great feeling that must have been for the IWU women, who have been playing in an awfully big shadow for a long time now.  Tonight's game vs UW-Whitewater is probably the biggest game in the history of the program.  The Titans will have to shoot it well and get the tempo in their favor (fast!) to win.  Best of luck, Titans!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 08, 2008, 10:25:01 am
Apologies if this sounds repetitive, but the student support was indeed excellent last night.  There were far more women involved in active cheering than is usual at the men's games--not a surprise, I guess--but there was a healthy contingent of men as well. 

One of the officials had also called the Millikin-Carthage game in the CCIW tourney last week, and his view of traveling is, well, interesting and creative.  That is, he often sees it where I don't and he doesn't see it where I do, and he doesn't seem to see it the same way all the time.  It worked both ways in each game, so it's not really an issue.   But the students noticed it too, and after a particularly egregious call they started chanting "That was a bad call"--far better than the more frequently heard obscenity.  Within a minute a call went IWU's way and they chanted "That was a good call."  Of course, lopsided victories make being in good spirits easier. 

The Titans will need every bit of that support tonight!  Congratulations to the Augustana and Wheaton men--a good night for the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 08, 2008, 02:32:59 pm
Wow, that was a dazzling start of the playoffs for the Titans. Keep ripping along, I say.
So, Sheehan and Solari might be good enough for 4th team all-CCIW. Sorry, I still don't like how they missed out. I know, it's a dead horse by now.
Good luck to IWU vs a very good opponent tonight!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 08, 2008, 04:29:00 pm
A nice feature on Claire Sheehan from the local news from Thursday...

http://centralillinoisproud.com/media_player.php?media_id=7557


And then the recap of last night's game...

http://centralillinoisproud.com/media_player.php?media_id=7569

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: buf on March 08, 2008, 09:22:04 pm
Whats going on at the Shirk?  UWW 73 IWU 40, 9min
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 08, 2008, 09:29:51 pm
Titans were down 80-42; suddenly it was 80-54.  But with under 5 left: too little, too late. :(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 08, 2008, 09:49:28 pm
Titans cut the final margin from 38 to 24 (63-87); they did not quit!

But 6 of 28 from downtown (22 of 66 overall, or 15 of 59 if you leave out Solari's 7 of 9) just ain't gonna do it. :(  Since I was only listening, I couldn't tell how much was credit to UWW defense, and how much was just going cold - undoubtedly some of each.

Great season - and with the talent returning, maybe next year can be even better!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 08, 2008, 10:54:07 pm
Just back from Shirk.  Ugh--it was a very bad night for the Titans.  Part of the credit for that has to go to Whitewater--they are big and physical and they came out aggressive.  But everyone except Solari was very, very tight.  Shots that are usually high-percentage weren't going, and there were a lot of unforced turnovers.  Those who attended the tournament saw the Titans' best and worst games of the year this weekend.

It was, overall, a great season indeed.  Hopefully there will be a few regular season games against some Whitewater-like opponents in preparation for a deeper run into the tournament next year!  Thanks to Mia and all the players.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 09, 2008, 11:01:48 am
Need to play a stronger non-conference schedule moving forward.  All of those 40-point blowouts were a waste of everyone's time.  It's hard to be ready to play a great team when you play so many poor teams.

Congratulations to the Titans on a terrific season.  The program is in great shape for the future.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jshoops on March 09, 2008, 01:47:35 pm
Hi all, first time poster.  I've been reading the blog for about 3 months.  Great commentary and links here!

I'm up in Park Ridge and we're family friends of the Solari's.  I've been following C. Solari for about 5-6 years, she's a terrific person.  Our 7th grade sons are the same age too. 

Tough night for IWU.  I was listening to online radio, it seemed IWU was in a groove early but lost the momenteum with too many missed 3's.   Since they took a ton of 3's, it did not seem that the Titans had much of an inside game.  Was the inside defense of UWW keeping IWU out of the paint?  After Christina's 3rd foul UWW grabbed the game and ran away with the 1st half and  to the eventual win.  It also sounded like we lacked some patience on the offensive sets.

I made it to 3 Chicagoland games and watched/listened online to a couple more of them too.  I have to agree they need to play a few more non-conf./tougher teams.   

I'm a 1982 ISU grad., still hooping it up 2-3 days a week and can still dunk at 48 @ 6'2".  I played for Steve Fisher for a couple of years in Park Forest/ Rich East, where Craig Hodges was a teammate.

Later!  Jim
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 09, 2008, 03:32:59 pm
Welcome, Jim!  It's good to have more people in the conversation.

The Titans have shot a lot of 3's all year; they are one of the leaders in made 3's in all of Division III.  (I just tried to check the stats on the NCAA site and found it temporarily down).  Christina (and Thea Rogers, before her career-ending ACL injury) bring a nice added dimension to the game.  Christina is a great team player, willing to kick the ball back out to a teammate for an open 3; in fact, she's been coached to look for her shot more lately, and she's responded.  And she rebounds ferociously!

So, to your questions--the Titans were in the game for a time, but the shots were never falling the way they did the night before against Maryville.  The Warhawks are big, solid, and quick, and attempts to get the ball inside too often resulted in turnovers of one kind or another (stray passes, getting stripped, etc.)  Solari's 7 of 9 was the biggest bright spot.  I think the quick 3's that you mentioned were an attempt to shoot themselves back into the game, if you will, but nerves were clearly an issue and a nervous shooter often misses.  They just could not get anything going at either end.

Have fun with the hoops!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 09, 2008, 08:29:20 pm
Although I don't think the players visit these boards, I would like to thank IWU seniors Sarah Bull, Crystal Dye, Tasha Gaston-Bell (who served as a student coach this season), Thea Rogers, and Elyse Sanchez for giving us their all during their college years.  They've had a great season and hopefully this will lead to more success for IWU and the entire CCIW in years to come.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 10, 2008, 11:34:12 am
Congratulations to Mia Smith and her talented bunch of basketballistas for a very fine season. Sadly it ends with a loss.
Of the 8 CCIW teams, only North Central ended with a win.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwufanjb on March 10, 2008, 11:34:36 am
This is also my first time posting, however I've been keeping up with the posts for about two years. You all have great insight on the CCIW and I always look forward to people's reactions to the contests. I'm not going to give too much personal information, but you could say I have close ties to the IWU women's team. I have 11 years of playing experience under my belt and 1 year of reffing high school girls.

My decision to finally speak up was mainly to make a correction about a very important senior on IWU that I'm sure was mistakenly left out, Kerri Gravlin. Congrats to all the seniors on the team; they have all had outstanding careers. The Titans may be alright talent-wise next year, but they sure are losing a great group of women with amazing character.

I agree with most of you in that IWU does not have a strong enough pre-conference season. The Titans are an amazing team and I do not want to take anything away from them, but they were not prepared for the NCAA Tourney as well as they should have been. They need to improve their schedule next year so they can work on winning close games. I was at both games this weekend, and you could see how scared they were against Whitewater when they were down by just 11 in the first half. That should not happen. Coach needs to get the girls more experience with tougher competition early in the season. Hopefully the girls come back next season hungry for more, which I'm sure will happen.

Congrats Titans on an outstanding season! You should all be very proud.

And you'd be surprised how many players read these boards.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 10, 2008, 12:05:55 pm
iwufanjb,

Thanks so much for correcting my error in leaving out Kerri Gravlin!  She has been a steady contributor in every category during her entire time at IWU.  Many thanks  and heartfelt apologies to Kerri.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 10, 2008, 07:20:23 pm
My welcome to the CCIW page also, jshoops and iwufanjb. I hope you each have a lot to say. And if you know anybody who follows Augie, Carthage, Millikin or North Central, we need posts from those perspectives!

A few more tidbits about IWU : I wonder if they'll look a little different next season without Sarah Bull. She scored 400 pts in 669 minutes, the best ratio on the team and near the top in the league. "Instant offense" and "confounder of defenses" describe her ability pretty well.
Without knowing of any newcomers, I think her minutes will go to players  who score more in the lane, which might cause defenses to collapse more.
Obviously the superb Mallory Heydorn has to be guarded at the 3-pt line, as does Claire Sheehan. But, things might get a bit more clogged near the basket. On the other hand, other players may work on their 3-pt accuracy during the summer.
The second highest Titan pts/min ratio, by the way, was Sarah Cotner's 50/89. Interesting.
Another eyebrow-raising stat is Nikki Preston's .639 on 2FG attempts, 23/36. Not bad.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 11, 2008, 03:22:20 pm
The Carthage website has a preview for '08-'09. It contains good news for the Lady Reds : both Carlie Janowiak and Lisa Gartelos have a year of eligibility remaining and are expected back.
I will amend one of my earlier posts, which was based on erroneous assumptions on my part. Oops.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 17, 2008, 01:31:36 pm
Feature on the front page of interest to Final Four participants and fans here.

Faces of a champion (http://www.d3hoops.com/features/index.html)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 17, 2008, 03:54:17 pm
For those who don't know, Audrey Minott (mentioned in the above feature) was Millikin's senior point guard three years ago when they won the whole thali.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 17, 2008, 04:51:42 pm
Hoosier Titan and anyone else,
If it's not too soon after the abrupt end of IWU's '07-'08 season, can you look ahead to '08-'09? What do you foresee?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 17, 2008, 05:59:29 pm
Rog,

Will do.  It will be a while coming from me.  We are on spring break here this week, and my teaching schedule is such that my times to work out don't overlap with many of the basketball people.  But there's only a few weeks left in the semester, so perhaps in a few weeks' time I'll know a bit more.  And perhaps others more in the know than I will post sooner.

It was some small comfort to see UWW continue their winning ways--I wish them success this weekend!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 19, 2008, 11:39:47 am
Congratulations to Lindsay Ippel, the Central Region Player of the Year!

However, no other CCIW player made first, second, or third team.  I have to assume the IWU SID never got around to making nominations, and I wonder how few conference SIDs voted.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 19, 2008, 11:49:18 am
Actually, the CCIW voted well, as did the WIAC. Each had two schools that didn't cast ballots. Heydorn got a fair number of votes but I think the strength of the WIAC was evident to the voters this year.

Evidently the voters thought averaging 13.1 points and 2.9 assists, shooting 39% from the floor and 38% from downtown against IWU's slate was not as impressive as averaging 11.7 points and 2.7 assists, 53 from the floor and 48 from downtown against UWW's slate. Tough call.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 19, 2008, 12:03:25 pm
Fair enough - I'll stop assuming the SID was to blame!

It seemed odd that a team which finished the regular season 25-2 and ranked 7th in the country would have no one place even on the third team.  I guess when all 5 starters average between 9.8 and 13.8 ppg, the balance precludes individual awards! ;)

[But it's great for the win column! ;D]
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 20, 2008, 01:48:26 pm
I wonder if Christina Solari may belong on the all-region team. Some of her stats : 11 pts avg, .624 FG%, 9.8 rebs (an excellent 40 per 100 minutes ratio), 60 steals (.085 per min, which is very good), 87/71 assist/turnover ratio. She's not a shot blocker, which can go against her as a center. But, sometimes a steal is better than a block.

On a different topic, here are some CCIW conference-only numbers that may interest three or four people.
These are 'FTs allowed' as a pct of 'total points allowed', which might tell us something about coaches' defensive philosophies.
Carthage  .282  (234/830)
Wheaton  .233  (200/857)
Elmhurst   .222  (219/986)
IWU          .221  (181/818)
NC            .217  (197/909)
NP            .203  (208/1027)
Millikin      .189  (156/827)
Augie       .126  (128/1012)

I conclude that C's Tim Bernero doesn't object to fouling someone rather than allowing an easy basket. At the other end, A's Bobbi Endress seems averse to sending the other team to the line a lot. The other six coaches don't vary a great deal on this particular issue, it appears. Now, it could be that some coaches discouraged fouling because of limited bench depth.
(adding a little more on this) --- decided to look at Carthage's data more closely --- taking out two games vs North Central (who scored 58 of 119 pts as FTs), Carthage's numbers for the other 12 games are 176/711 (.247) and would still lead the league. But there was not a consistent pattern. It matters how aggressive the opponent's offense was, too.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 20, 2008, 04:54:10 pm
About the all-region selections--I'm assuming the stats Pat quoted were those of Heydorn v. UWW's point guard.  It seems a little unfair to compare them head-to-head and discount one when other players from teams IWU and UWW could both have beaten (and did, in some cases) were selected.

That said, Mallory Heydorn didn't end the season on a high note.  The Achilles tendon bothered her for a long time, and then there was a sprained thumb.  She had a really off game against UWW, so her case wasn't strengthened by strong performances down the stretch.  Although I have confidence that Mallory is one of the best point guards around, I can see why she might have lost a few votes.

The two Titans who played strongest in the conference tourney were the two left off the all-conference team, Claire Sheehan and Christina Solari.  And the only one who played anywhere near her usual level against UWW in the final game was Christina Solari (7 for 9, 16 points, 8 rebs, 4 assists, 2 turnovers, 1 block, 1 steal).  So I agree with Rog.  And Solari's omission from the all-conference team seems like even more of an oversight now.   Christina's achievements this year are even more impressive when one remembers that she was, effectively, playing her first year of college basketball.
Title: IWU 2008-09
Post by: jshoops on March 21, 2008, 11:21:55 am
Just looking at the 2007-08 minutes/points indicates IWU has a terrific core of 3 players to build around and mentally anchor this team next season.   

Claire and Mallory are seasoned vets and should be able to pick up the scroing slack brought on the the graduation of Bull and Dye.  Christina should also look to score a bit more and teach those sophmores how to rebound like her.  Collen will need to step up her game because there appears to be a number of sophmores who will be pushing her for some minutes.   This team is full of promise, there are 8 players 5-10 and better, a couple in the guard positions too!  That will create some matchup problems that IWU can use to their advantage.

NO. NAME POS. HT. YR.
10 Claire Sheehan G 5-7 Jr. 13.8 pts/ 27.5 mpg
11 Mallory Heydorn # G 5-7 Jr. 13 pts/ 27.1 mpg
53 Christina Solari C 6-0 So. 11 pts/ 24.5 mpg
33 Colleen Caplice C 5-11 Jr. 4 pts/ 12.4 mpg

32 Hope Schulte G 5-10 Fr. 4.4 pts/ 10.3 mpg
21 Nikki Preston G 5-10 Fr. 4.1 pts/ 9.1 mpg
34 Sarah Cotner C 6-1 Fr. 3.3 pts/ 5.9 mpg
52 Stacey Arlis F 5-11 Fr. 2.1 pts/ 5.3 mpg
42 Lia Anderson F 5-11 Fr. 1.7 pts/ 4.6 mpg
20 Holly Harvey G 5-8 Fr. 1.6 pts/ 7.3 mpg
40 Jessica Hinterlong F 5-10 Fr.  0.3 pts/ 4.3 mpg

I think we're all Christina fans here and I've been saying all year, what a come back year she had!  Threee new IWU season records in rebounds, steals, FG%, and led the team in assists, while playing the 5 position.  Wow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 21, 2008, 03:18:59 pm
jshoops, your mention of Solari's rebounding led me to check all of the CCIW full-season stats to see how other players did.
I arbitrarily decided to look only for players who averaged at least 30 rebounds per 100 minutes played. I only excluded players who played less than 5 minutes. Surprisingly, only six players made the list :

C Solari (IWU)            284/710  40 (per 100 min.)
L Anderson (IWU)       26/65     40
Kelly Brooks (Whe)     40/117   34
Michelle Gilliard (EC)   37/114   32
Maegan Skahill (Aug) 146/483  30
Kate Schmidt (NC)      45/149   30

An obvious caveat is that it is unknown if the players with fewer minutes than Solari and Skahill could sustain that level of rebounding over a higher amount of playing time. But it's an interesting list anyway.
I hadn't noticed how well Wheaton's Brooks was rebounding during her brief appearances.

 

 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 23, 2008, 07:17:40 pm
About the all-region selections--I'm assuming the stats Pat quoted were those of Heydorn v. UWW's point guard.  It seems a little unfair to compare them head-to-head and discount one when other players from teams IWU and UWW could both have beaten (and did, in some cases) were selected.

I compare them head to head not because they played each other but because the UWW player was the last guard on the list.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 23, 2008, 08:08:32 pm
I compare them head to head not because they played each other but because the UWW player was the last guard on the list.

Oh, right.  That makes sense.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 24, 2008, 11:19:44 am
Congratulations to Lindsay Ippel, 1st team All-American.
She will have to rent a 9' x 14' storage unit to hold all her awards!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 27, 2008, 11:24:34 am
I have some news on IWU's pre-conference schedule for next year.  They will go to Puget Sound (#23 in the final d3hoops poll) to play in PS's tournament.  Chicago (#19 in the final poll) and NAIA Missouri Baptist have also been added to the schedule. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on April 07, 2008, 07:17:24 pm
Wheaton's web site has an '08-'09 schedule.
It will be interesting to see how the Thunder comes back from a rather sour '07-'08 season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: omaha on May 02, 2008, 08:42:03 am
North Park is seeking a new womens basketball coach to replace Jack Surridge.  Apparently Jack will remain athletic director at NPU
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on May 05, 2008, 03:02:15 pm
Did a little digging and found the North Park opening announced on d3jobs.com, posted April 30, deadline May 31.
A few words about Jack Surridge, who is stepping down from the coaching position and will now be just the Athletic Director :
I would not be writing anything here or even attending any D3 women's games, were it not for the kindness of Jack Surridge.
Back in 1999 or 2000, I had just bought a panoramic camera and wanted to see how well it would take a wide view in a gym. North Park is the closest college gym to my house, so on a whim I went there.
Jack kindly welcomed me and said to "shoot away" (or something similar). He could have reacted with a common, but rancid, question that greets a stranger in some places : "who are you with?" -- as if being a regular, interested individual has no value. But he was nice and accessible to a guy who had just walked in off Foster Avenue.
Anyway, I stayed for the women's game of that afternoon. Before long, I was a D3 women's hoops addict, like the rest of you readers.
All the fun I’ve had attending games, meeting other fans, coaches, refs and parents wouldn’t have happened without that initial act of generous hospitality by Jack Surridge. In my book, that rates up there with his 500+ wins.
Come November, I hope to see him relaxing and enjoying a game as fan/Athletic Director. That will be an easy transition from being a competitive coach, won’t it?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2008, 06:15:08 pm
Did a little digging and found the North Park opening announced on d3jobs.com, posted April 30, deadline May 31.
A few words about Jack Surridge, who is stepping down from the coaching position and will now be just the Athletic Director :
I would not be writing anything here or even attending any D3 women's games, were it not for the kindness of Jack Surridge.
Back in 1999 or 2000, I had just bought a panoramic camera and wanted to see how well it would take a wide view in a gym. North Park is the closest college gym to my house, so on a whim I went there.
Jack kindly welcomed me and said to "shoot away" (or something similar). He could have reacted with a common, but rancid, question that greets a stranger in some places : "who are you with?" -- as if being a regular, interested individual has no value. But he was nice and accessible to a guy who had just walked in off Foster Avenue.
Anyway, I stayed for the women's game of that afternoon. Before long, I was a D3 women's hoops addict, like the rest of you readers.
All the fun I’ve had attending games, meeting other fans, coaches, refs and parents wouldn’t have happened without that initial act of generous hospitality by Jack Surridge. In my book, that rates up there with his 500+ wins.
Come November, I hope to see him relaxing and enjoying a game as fan/Athletic Director. That will be an easy transition from being a competitive coach, won’t it?


Not if he's like me.  It was a good 3-4 years after I stopped coaching youth soccer before I could actually SIT while watching a game!  It just didn't seem natural to not be up and pacing the sideline! ;D  Fortunately, I (almost) always kept my instructions to myself! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on May 23, 2008, 03:16:18 pm
On IWU's athletics page is a list of probable '08-'09 newcomers. These are shown for women's hoops :
Amy Burton, 6-0 center, Vernon Hills, Ill. (HS)
Kylie Castens, 5-10 guard, Schaumburg, Ill. (HS)
Lauren Knaack, 5-6 guard, McHenry, Ill. (HS) - also soccer
Amanda Murray, 5-8 forward, Bloomington, Ill. (Central Catholic HS)
Karen Solari, 5-10 forward, Park Ridge, Ill. (Maine South HS)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on May 29, 2008, 09:03:14 am
A little on IWU's recruits...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/05/29/usports/doc483df82365d09885138720.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: AndOne on June 03, 2008, 02:59:06 am
Kendra Hunter has been named the new head woman's basketball coach at North Central College.

During her playing days (as Kendra Meyer) at Capital University in Ohio, she was a D3Hoops All-American for the 98-99, 99-00, and 00-01 seasons, including being named to the 1st team in 00-01. Further details follow.

http://www.northcentralcollege.edu/x44908.xml





Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on June 17, 2008, 06:11:29 pm
North Park has hired Amanda Reese as new head coach of women's basketball:

http://www.northpark.edu/home/index.cfm?northpark=RNews.RNews_Story&ID=2760 (http://www.northpark.edu/home/index.cfm?northpark=RNews.RNews_Story&ID=2760)

Reese was an assistant coach at UIC and is an alumna of Northern Illinois.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on June 18, 2008, 01:39:52 pm
Welcome to the CCIW and good luck to the new coaches at North Central and North Park.
Elmhurst is hosting the NCAA-approved summer women's league this time. They started Monday night, with a large number of CCIW players participating. The first thing you notice is that the host Bluejays have many new players, including some tall ones. Coach Werner will have a lot to work with for '08-'09. Depth will not be a problem.
I also watched a contingent of IWU players cruise past their opponent. Mallory Heydorn dazzled onlookers with her marvelous shooting, knocking down three after three after three after...
Teammate Holly Harvey casually banked in an over-the-shoulder layup.
I saw most of Carthage's game as well. They had a new player or two that will make them stronger. The always-energetic Rosie Dorn played well (others played hard and effectively, too, of course).
Didn't get there last night.
Games are at 6:00, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00. Remaining dates are June 19, 23, 24, 26 and July 7, 8, 10, 14 plus playoffs on the 15th and 17th. There are 24 teams, mostly featuring area D3 and NAIA players.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on June 23, 2008, 03:54:30 pm
Millikin recruits...

http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2008/06/17/sports/millikin/1033420.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on June 24, 2008, 03:31:59 pm
Titan Q, based on that article, we might expect Millikin to be right there in the battle for CCIW playoff positions in ’08-’09. Although they lose four starters, they still have some experienced, talented players. Plus, those freshman sound good. Coach Kerans will form them into a good team, even if they are primarily guard size.
It promises to be an interesting season. After a couple more enjoyable evenings of spectatoring at the Elmhurst summer league, I can report a few things.
Augustana has picked up some new, athletic players to help them climb up in the standings.
Nearly all of North Central’s veteran core of players are participating, doing so with vigor, unity and aggressiveness. I didn’t hear anything about their incoming freshman.
Carthage has been well-represented, with most of their fine flock taking part in the games. Carlie Janowiak, foot in cast from recent surgery, has been there to encourage her mates. Coach Bernero says Janowiak should be ready to play when things start in the fall.
IWU has about nine or ten players on their summer league roster. Come this winter, it remains to be seen how many CCIW teams will get up to the level where the Titans are. Despite graduating some topnotch players, they are very deep and maybe even more so, if some of their freshman can help out right away.
Elmhurst got stomped 44-22 in the 2nd half of the February playoff matchup vs IWU, so it was evident that the Jays had to improve an already-good team in order to fully challenge the Titans. And, in fact, a large shipment of good-sized athletic newcomers has arrived for Elmhurst, giving them probably 20 – 24 players, so they are fielding two summer league teams.
In the real ’08-‘09 season, only five can play at a time, so Coach Werner will have a lot of deciding to do, all the while having many good options. She will be able to “go big” (imagine Brittany Bobruk as a 3 and a couple of the new 6-footers playing 4 and 5) or “go small” using four or five under-6-footers together, or anything in between.
There are some players from Millikin, North Park and/or Wheaton in the summer league, but I haven’t observed them yet.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on July 03, 2008, 01:27:42 pm
Most of the '08-'09 schedules are now up around the conference.
Due to arena construction in Kenosha, Carthage has no home games until January 13. Their all-road nonconference schedule sends them to contests in six different states.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on August 06, 2008, 07:21:58 pm
The Carthage web site has an ’08-’09 roster containing 15 players, including 6 new ones. The Lady Reds will have an abundance of mid-size guard/forwards, around 5’8” to 5’10”.
Some further thoughts on the recent summer league in Elmhurst :
No wide-ranging conclusions can be drawn, primarily because there was no coaching and no shot clock. Nevertheless, it was fun to have a little preview of the upcoming season.
I don’t remember her name, but Augustana has a new forward, maybe 5’11”, who is very athletic and will shoot from distance or will drive to the basket with impressive quickness. She may become the next CCIW leader in free throw attempts and up there in minutes played.
As stated earlier, Elmhurst has a bunch of new players. A number of them should be able to help right away, in various facets of the game. I’m thinking that the Jays’ returning top three scorers, Long, Bobruk and Monroe, may not have to carry so much of the scoring load in ’08-’09. Meaning that the Jays will get contributions from a lot of players, some adding low-post scoring and others knocking down threes and midrange shots, plus fast break activity. For it all to work out well, with that many players (15-20?), the established veterans will need to help the younger ones fit in.
North Central has an experienced core of players and can be expected to contend for a conference playoff spot. It will be interesting to see the effect of a new coach on the Cardinals, whether they might modify any offensive or defensive tendencies.
North Park, Millikin and Wheaton did not have a lot of presence, if any, at the summer league, and I learned nothing about them.
Which brings us to the reigning champs of the CCIW, Illinois Wesleyan. Their summer league team did the best, making the playoff round, but got eliminated by an assemblage of D2 players. Suffice it to say that IWU will be good in ’08-’09. The backcourt stars,  Claire Sheehan and Mallory Heydorn, are now seniors and will be at their best, combining talent, effort and experience. Fellow senior Colleen Caplice is an excellent part of the team, as well, starting or off the bench. The Solari sisters, Nikki Preston, Stacey Arlis, Jessica Hinterlong and Holly Harvey all did good work in the summer league. There was a freshman or two, too, but I’m not sure how much playing time will be open for them.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on August 14, 2008, 07:20:35 pm
Here are some new arrivals for North Central (found under "Recruits" on their web page) :

Mallory Carlini, 5'11" forward (Villa Park, Ill./Willowbrook/Coll. of DuPage)
Ashley Dempsey, 5'5" guard (Plainfield, Ill./Plainfield North)
Karina Estrada, 5'5" guard (Burbank, Ill./Reavis/Moraine Valley CC)
Kelsey Kruel, 5'6" forward (Bartlett, Ill./Streamwood)
Tanya Lozano, 5'5" guard (Chicago, Ill./Campos)
Mia Sansone, 5'5" guard (Bensenville, Ill./Fenton)
Tanika Warren, 5'8" forward (Chicago, Ill./Hope)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on September 08, 2008, 11:29:41 am
Millikin has posted a roster featuring eight returning players, one new junior and ten freshmen.
See Titan Q's 6/23 post for the link to Coach Kerans's comments about the new kids. Looks to me like the Big Blue has plenty of good talent for the upcoming season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 14, 2008, 11:27:55 am
IWU's '08-'09 seventeen player roster is up on their web site. They have so many good players, they could field two competitive teams, assuming all are healthy.
North Central's site lists their returning players. The Cardinals should be pretty good, particularly if some of their freshmen are able to pitch in. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: HCACBBALL on October 14, 2008, 12:26:48 pm
Estrada a transfer from Moraine Valley CC should be a immediate impact player for NCC.  She can play the 1 and 2.  She is hard nosed and can shoot the 3.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 14, 2008, 03:14:03 pm
That's interesting, HCACBBALL. Another reason to expect NC to be in the battle for a CCIW playoff spot.
The conference web site, cciw.org, has the composite '08-'09 schedule, under Basketball (W).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: HCACBBALL on October 14, 2008, 03:51:05 pm
I think Coach Hunter will do good things at NCC.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 17, 2008, 06:47:28 pm
North Park has posted their new roster.
Returning are three players, all of 'em good :seniors LaRae Kostreva, Stylianee Damianides and Amanda Phillips.
A welcome crop of newcomers features two juniors, two sophs and four freshpersons.
Obviously, with that many new players plus new coaches, these Vikings face the challenge of "getting on the same page" in order to be ready for the conference games in Jan and Feb. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 22, 2008, 03:03:50 pm
The Augustana roster is available for consideration on their web site.
Seven players from the '07-'08 team are back, joined by 14 new ones. Nine of the new ones are 5'9" or 5'10".
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 22, 2008, 07:08:45 pm
Wheaton's roster is up, too.
Ten returning from last season, plus six new arrivals. They should have good internal competition for playing time.
If Lissie McAlvey and Lynnea Kvam have recovered from injury, the Thunder should do well.
How's that for profundity?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 22, 2008, 07:32:47 pm
Wheaton's roster is up, too.
Ten returning from last season, plus six new arrivals. They should have good internal competition for playing time.
If Lissie McAlvey and Lynnea Kvam have recovered from injury, the Thunder should do well.
How's that for profundity?

Well, you could have said "if they outscore most of their opponents, they'll do well"! ;D

Now, THAT would be profound. :P
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on October 24, 2008, 02:29:15 pm
I am new to the board.  My daughter is a frosh post on Elmhurst.  Since she committed early (last October) , I had the chance to watch many Elmhurst/CCIW contests, and I was extremely impressed with the level of competition.  These schools are attracting a lot of local talent that I am familiar with, and this should be an exciting CCIW season!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 24, 2008, 07:01:03 pm
Welcome aboard, Old Hoosier Baller. :)

As you've probably noticed, RogK is just about the only really regular poster here, but good to have one more to keep him company!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 24, 2008, 07:15:46 pm
My "welcome," too, OHB!
Contribute often, please. We try to be positive toward everyone, appreciating the effort and talent of all players on all teams. Criticisms should be vague and confusing, causing the reader to wonder just what the heck you're talking about. (ha ha)
This shapes up to be a very interesting year for the conference, with a fairly clear favorite (Ill Wesleyan) and competitive teams throughout the rest of the list.
Your kid's team will be full of good players, with playing time "at a premium."
The other schools have some combination of an experienced core of returning players and a big pile of energetic newcomers. So, every team has reason for optimism.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on October 24, 2008, 08:02:46 pm
Hello OHB--nice to see another Hoosier here!

I'll be checking in more as the season heats up, but Rog is our most regular (and probably most objective) poster.  This is a fairly laid-back board--not a bad thing, overall.

It should be an interesting season.  Only a few more weeks!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 24, 2008, 11:01:56 pm
And, OHB, with three welcomes in a 62 minute stretch (after weeks of near silence), you gotta admit we're a friendly board! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on October 27, 2008, 10:47:16 am
Thanks for the welcome everyone!  Looking forward to communicating with everyone in the coming months! :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 27, 2008, 11:25:13 am
The new Elmhurst roster is now posted. Coach Werner has only 21 players to work with, twelve of 'em returnees.
Six of the nine new ones are six-footers.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 31, 2008, 04:21:10 pm
The full North Central roster is posted.
The annual forecast of the CCIW standings occurred earlier this week. The coaches jointly foresee (1) IWU, (2) Carthage, (3) Millikin, (4) EC, (5) Wheaton, (6) North Central, (7) Augie, (8) North Park.
I think I'd put the top four as IWU, EC, Carthage and North Central.
I don't know any inside information such as injuries.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 31, 2008, 04:48:25 pm
That emoticon in lieu of "8" in the prior post appeared without my putting it there and resists removal. Oh well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 31, 2008, 05:52:10 pm
That emoticon in lieu of "8" in the prior post appeared without my putting it there and resists removal. Oh well.

Quite a few people have discovered that problem on various boards, and found a variety of solutions.  My most common are to use periods instead of parens, or to leave a space - (8 ).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 31, 2008, 06:04:39 pm
Thanks, Mr. Ypsi. I'll know what to do next time.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 04, 2008, 11:42:29 am
Wheaton's web site has a preview of the upcoming season. Mention is made of Coach Baker being on medical leave.
Best of luck to her in defeating whatever ailment it is. We at D3hoops wish her a prompt return to King Arena's courtside.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jshoops on November 06, 2008, 09:26:56 pm
Hey, just TWO weeks until IWU plays DePauw on the Big Muddy.  What a crazy first matchup of top 10 rated teams!  I might just see if I can catch a ride down there with a buddy.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: OshDude on November 11, 2008, 08:01:48 pm
If anyone's interested in the D-III regional volleyball tournaments, I have a fairly extensive blog (http://uwoshvball.wordpress.com/) that covers the St. Thomas (http://uwoshvball.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/st-thomas-regional-guide/) and Oshkosh (http://uwoshvball.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/oshkosh-regional-guide/) (where CC will be) regionals. It's not bad in national terms, either. Stop by and tell me what you think.

I think one or two CCIW VB teams IMO got hosed.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on November 15, 2008, 06:13:27 pm
North Park dropped its first contest under new coach Amanda Reese, 69-64, to visiting Carroll College.  Greg Sager will provide his analysis later -- he was keeping the book on the game -- but from this outsider's perspective, the results look very promising.  Carroll is coming off a 19-5 record, and the Vikings hung close with the Pioneers throughout the whole game.  Kostreva (21 points), Phillips (17), and newcomer Larisa Coldebella (10) paced the Viking attack, and North Park outrebounded Carroll 40-28.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 15, 2008, 08:08:32 pm
NP did indeed look promising, mr b. They're better than last year's team, in my early opinion. It was something of a disjointed contest, probably because the coaches reacted to problems, making adjustments which changed the feel of the game several times.
Elsewhere, Wheaton was outrebounded 54-38 by Ripon, but topped them anyway, 63-47. The Thunder had 18 steals.
Augustana lost to Coe 72-66. I think Augie will be improved over '07-'08 as well. A positive stat for them was 85% (17/20) at the foul line.
North Central's game is in progress.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 16, 2008, 01:47:34 pm
North Central had not-too-good of a start, committing 33 turnovers, losing 87-70 to Stout. Only 6 offensive rebounds total. Even worse if you exclude the two "team rebounds."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 17, 2008, 05:23:48 pm
North Central and Augustana evened their records at 1-1 with Sunday victories. The Cardinals made 31 free throws in a 70-60 win over Northland.
The Vikings beat Martin Luther (the college) 66-48, despite turning it over 33 times. Since they should be able to reduce the frequency of turnovers in future games, we might expect Augie to be scoring in the 70s with some regularity.
Congrats to Wheaton's Kathleen Fidelia on being CCIW player of the week, very likely to occur a few more times.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 18, 2008, 05:13:29 pm
The Lady Reds of Carthage won their '08-'09 opener last night, getting past Aurora, 55-49.
They have eleven more road games up next on the schedule. I suspect they'll handle it pretty well, since they have a good and experienced bunch of players.
I wonder, will Coach Bernero sing "On the Road Again" to start each trip?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 19, 2008, 07:20:38 pm
Augustana took Loras into OT, but couldn't prevail : 81-71. Augie assistant SID Adam Strand did a good write-up summarizing the game -- see their web site.
Millikin debuted the season with a 62-51 loss at NAIA McKendree. The always-energetic Tracie Yantis had 7 steals for the Big Blue. Kayla Pembrook had 12 rebounds.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 20, 2008, 02:01:26 am
What a tourney in St. Louis this weekend! :o  #10 IWU faces #3 DePauw; the winner gets to face (presumably) #1 WashU (their first-round opponent is Central, who won 4 games last year).

I'm sure there must have been early season tourneys even more stacked than 1, 3, and 10, but not by much! :D

BTW, over/under on how much Central loses by this weekend: 67.5. ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: gottaluvhoops on November 20, 2008, 10:57:45 am
That is a tournament!  Should be a fun one to watch!! 

I'll take the under on the Central game.  If I remember correctly it was in this same tournament two years ago that Central beat Wash U.  Or am I mistaken?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 20, 2008, 01:41:03 pm
That is a tournament!  Should be a fun one to watch!! 

I'll take the under on the Central game.  If I remember correctly it was in this same tournament two years ago that Central beat Wash U.  Or am I mistaken?

That's essentiallly right; it was the same four teams at IWU.  At the time Depauw was ranked about third in the country and Wash. U. about twelfth; the first night IWU beat Depauw and Central beat Wash U.  By the end of the year Depauw and Wash U. played in the title game, with Depauw coming out on top.

Should indeed be a great tournament.  Pity I have to teach until 3:00 in Bloomington on Friday.  Details, details! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 20, 2008, 03:56:37 pm
Hoosier Titan, the very practical solution to your quandary is to convene your Friday class under a large oak in St Louis's Forest Park.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 21, 2008, 08:33:59 pm
Hoosier Titan, the very practical solution to your quandary is to convene your Friday class under a large oak in St Louis's Forest Park.

Rog's suggestion would have been a very civilized and practicable one a month ago.   As it was, the temperature as we passed the Shirk on the way in this morning was about 25 F.  As we stopped for a light in front of Shirk, half of the women's basketball team crossed the street, obviously on their way to the team bus.  Stacey Arlis and Hope Schulte, in particular, seemed happy to hear our cries of "Good luck, ladies!!

We just now checked the score to see that IWU defeated #3 DePauw 77-76 with huge contributions from Schulte, Claire Sheehan, Mallory Heydorn, and Christina Solari.  Those four players all clocked in at 30+ minutes.  Sheehan had 7 assists, and 3 steals to go with 12 points, while Heydorn scored 21 with a block and 3 assists.  Schulte had 17 points, 2 blocks, and a steal, while veteran post Christina Solari had 16 points while leading the Titan rebounders with 7. 

I cannot comment directly on tonight's game, but from what we saw a week ago in the annual Green and White Scrimmage, Hope Schulte is one of the most athletic players I have seen at the DIII level, male or female.  She literally came from about half court to block what seemed a clear layup.  Half of the IWU men's team were sitting in front of us, and they (and we) gasped as she seemed to come from nowhere.  This woman has moves.

Over on the men's board IWU fans have been getting pasted for wearing green-tinted glasses and "drinking green Kool-Aid."   I haven't had any Kool-Aid in decades, but I'm very, very proud of these ladies and what they've accomplished tonight.  Tomorrow we're heading down to St. Louis for the title game of this always-interesting tournament.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 21, 2008, 08:43:54 pm
I just realised I lost a year in my post of last night--it was in 2006 that the tournament involving these four teams was in Bloomington.  Last year it was at Depauw, when IWU beat Wash U. 69-51. I was living in London at the time, and got the score either very late at night or first thing early in the morning.  I remember waking up my flat (er, apartment) yelling "IWU beat Wash U.!!" 

At any rate, this tournament is a GREAT way to start off the season!   :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 22, 2008, 12:20:52 pm
That's a big win for the Titans. According to the play-by-play, Schulte had a last second steal, got fouled and won it with a FT.
I saw Millikin top Trinity International (NAIA) in OT, 61-54. Not the best that they are capable of, but the Big Blue did what they had to to get the W.
I'll be heading out to Wheaton shortly for day 2 of their tournament. The Thunder clobbered Blackburn yesterday, 95-36, thanks in some part to outrebounding the visitors 68-25. Sarah Jones led with 8.
Calvin beat Elmhurst, 65-58, largely due to 35 pts from Marcia Harris, a skilled and athletic 6-footer.
North Central cruised past Marian, 84-53. In 24 minutes, Meghan McGuire had 20 pts, 10 reb.
Simpson edged Carthage 84-82 in OT. Shana Lieberman poured in 20 pts.
In a game I'm glad not to have seen, Lake Forest beat North Park, 54-41. Their FG percentages were .313 and .265.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 22, 2008, 05:51:52 pm
Scoreboard reports IWU leading #1 WashU, 35-32, at the half.  Anyone have any links or first-hand info?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 22, 2008, 07:05:24 pm
Woo Hoo!!!  IWU 72, (former) #1 WashU 69!!!

Combined with yesterday's win over (former) #3 DePauw, the ladies are gonna have one HUGE target on their backs!  (I wonder if they will jump all the way to #1?  I'll guess about 3rd.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: y_jack_lok on November 22, 2008, 07:14:12 pm
Woo Hoo!!!  IWU 72, (former) #1 WashU 69!!!

Combined with yesterday's win over (former) #3 DePauw, the ladies are gonna have one HUGE target on their backs!  (I wonder if they will jump all the way to #1?  I'll guess about 3rd.)

I believe the Wash U women were ranked #6, the men were #1.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 22, 2008, 07:27:39 pm
Woo Hoo!!!  IWU 72, (former) #1 WashU 69!!!

Combined with yesterday's win over (former) #3 DePauw, the ladies are gonna have one HUGE target on their backs!  (I wonder if they will jump all the way to #1?  I'll guess about 3rd.)

I believe the Wash U women were ranked #6, the men were #1.

Oops - you're correct (not the first time I've slipped up with the two polls on the same page).

Jeez, now you've ruined my weekend - they only beat #3 and #6 on consecutive days - big whoop. :( :o ;D
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Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 22, 2008, 11:46:56 pm
Whew!  Just got in from St. Louis!  What a game!

I haven't seen an all-tournament team, but I would think that Christina Solari would have to be MVP--21 points, 17 rebounds, and 4 assists this afternoon!  She is a complete player--although she plays the low post, she can bring the ball up if need be, and she has moves galore.  Hope Schulte had another good game, with 13 points.

The first half seemed to fly by.  It seemed like a championship game between two good and evenly-matched teams.  Both have strong inside players and outside shooters; they both play good defense in the half court and a full-court press.  And both can run the inside-outside game really well.  At halftime the score was 35-32 IWU, and that seemed just about right.

The first five minutes of the second half were as near perfect as I've seen the IWU women play as they rolled to a 14-point lead.  It seemed they couldn't miss, all the rebounds came to them, and Wash U. were definitely rattled.  Then, for a few minutes, it seemed as though neither team wanted to win, as turnovers and missed shots on both sides slowed the scoring rate.  Gradually, though, Wash U. pulled back to a single-digit deficit.  Nervy moments for IWU.  In the end, I think that IWU's defense might have been the difference.  Not that Wash U. were always kept from scoring--they are too good, and have too many options, for that.  But it took them a LONG time to set up in their offense when the press was on, and even when it wasn't, the shooters were often covered.  At least three times Wash U. looked about to have a clock violation, only to get the shot off and score.  But when they were down by a dozen in the second half, those seconds lost were priceless.  The momentum seemed to be with Wash U. down the stretch, and it's possible that they just ran out of time. 

For Wash U., Zoe Unruh and  Halsey Ward impressed, and Kathryn Berger led their scoring with 19.  After being out-rebounded by DePauw, IWU won tonight's battle of the boards 40-29.

Both coaches went deep into their benches, playing eleven each, and made frequent substitutions.  Mallory Heydorn had to sit for the last part of the first half after picking up her third foul, and Hope Schulte made the switch from small forward to point guard look easy.  Mia Smith's use of the bench in the last few minutes was particularly impressive:  the lineup on the floor was four guards (Heydorn, Sheehan, Schulte, and Holly Harvey), along with Solari.  All ball handlers, and all good free throw shooters.  Harvey hit two important FTs with just under 2 minutes to go; although she missed a pair with about a minute left, Christina Solari hit one with 5 seconds left to bring IWU's lead back to the final 72-69 score.  This game wasn't beautiful, but it was a hard-fought battle between two quality teams.

We got there for the second half of the DePauw-Central consolation game.  The score was 38-33 DePauw at the half, but the Tigers soon pulled away.  It was hard to judge from what we saw today how DePauw compares to Wash U. and IWU.  From the evidence today I would guess that IWU and Wash U. have not seen the last of each other.  A return matchup would be great! 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 23, 2008, 02:11:21 pm
Another important victory for the Titans. Congratulations.
In the game I saw, #2 Oglethorpe drilled Wheaton 99-68. Three minutes into the 2nd half, it was 76-34. The Stormy Petrels shot 27/45 twos, 11/23 threes and 12/15.
Numerous Oglethorpe passes were zipped with precision, a hallmark of an excellent team. Their top scorers, with 27 and 20, also had 5 assists each.
Players of all sizes contested for rebounds.
For the first 2/3 of the game, they ran more or less a full court press. Wheaton got through it now and then and Kathleen Fidelia (31 pts) was able to drive to the lane and score. For the last 7 - 8 minutes, Oglethorpe reduced its intensity, perhaps in a spirit of being a gracious visitor.
By the way, Beth Baker is back, coaching the Thunder, which was good to see.
Other CCIW finals :
Grand View 65, Millikin 57 (15 pts, 9 reb by Elise Wildman);
Carthage 59, Luther 43;
Elmhurst 113, Finlandia 56 (seven Jays in double figures);
Monmouth 83, Augustana 59;
NC 82, St Ambrose 80 (2 OT, 18 rebs for Parra, 13 for Errico);
Concordia (IL) 53, NP 50.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 23, 2008, 02:52:00 pm

By the way, Beth Baker is back, coaching the Thunder, which was good to see.


That IS good news--thanks for sharing it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on November 24, 2008, 11:10:29 am
Hi Everyone!  I thought that I would provide a little info on the Bluejays' two games over the weekend.  Initially, Friday was a tough loss to Calvin.  All things considered, I truly felt like the Jays were the stronger team, but turnovers got the best of them.  The Jays led for the majority of the game, but Calvin came through down the stretch.   In all honesty, the officiating seemed to fall more to Calvin who shot 31 free throws to Elmhurst 14.  All-American Marcia Harris shot 15 by herself.  Very inconsistent calls on one end versus the other!  Regardless of the loss, the effort was there throughout the game which obviously carried over to Saturday.

Saturday's score against Finlandia speaks for itself.  Everyone was dialed in, and the overall execution was much improved over Friday!  The game featured an excellent display of the wide variety of athletic weapons that this year's Jays squad has its disposal.  Long and Bobruk have a much stronger supporting cast this season.  Should be a great season for the Lady Bluejays!! 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 26, 2008, 11:38:54 am
All five conference teams that played last night registered losses. Not good.
I attended Monmouth at North Park. The first half was dominated by the refs : traveling was called time after time, producing most of the 31 total turnovers. The second half was more tolerable and North Park climbed back into the game to make it competitive. Three NP players were hobbling in the second half, but played anyway, since they don't have a deep bench. Monmouth won it 59-55.
Augustana managed only 33 points, losing by 11 to Cornell.
Elmhurst lost at Albion, 62-58 in OT.
Millikin lost at Carroll, 71-56. Crystal Zeigler scored 20 in 22:00 for M.
Finally, Wheaton lost 81-78 at St Mary's (Indiana). Kathleen Fidelia had 26 pts, 6 reb, 6 assists and 5 steals. Lisa Ballenger, who might become a prominent player, got the start at center. Looks like she played reasonably well for 21:00 but picked up 4 fouls.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 26, 2008, 12:24:29 pm
Millikin coach Lori Kerans again has to have cancer treatment -- see the article on their web site or on D3hoops Daily Dose for today.
Best wishes to her.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 26, 2008, 01:06:14 pm
I dug back and found a post from January 2007 which tells you what I think about coach Kerans :
During the opening introductions, I noticed that Millikin coach Lori Kerans came well forward and warmly greeted the Wheaton starters. Rather than treating it as an obligatory ritual, she appeared to use the opportunity to say, more or less, "thanks, girls, for coming to the gym and playing ball with us." Not a major thing or a criticism of any other coach, but it was a sign of a kindhearted person.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 26, 2008, 01:39:05 pm
Congrats to Christina Solari, CCIW player of the week.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 29, 2008, 11:02:21 am
In last night's games, Elmhurst sped to a 53-25 halftime lead and won at Aurora, 83-54. A variety of players scored well and ten different Bluejays had a steal.
North Central lost at Benedictine, 70-60. Jessica Davis led the Cardinals with 16 points.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 29, 2008, 08:14:06 pm
Illinois Wesleyan rolled over MacMurray at Jacksonville, 84-40.  Both teams started sluggishly; the Titans, at least, looked to be working off their Thanksgiving dinners.  According to the running commentary, with five minutes to go in the first half, the score was 17-14 in favor of MacMurray.  This doesn't seem quite right (the scoreboard was often behind), but it's fairly indicative.  The Titans then pulled away to a 44-24 halftime lead, which they were able to extend a bit in the second half. 

The Titans were led in scoring by first year player Kylie Castens with 15 points in 22 minutes. She moved well and shot with confidence from all over the court.  Mallory Heydorn had 13 points, Claire Sheehan 12, and Christina Solari 10 with 13 rebounds.  For MacMurray, Abby Lowe was the most consistent player, contributing 17 points on 13/16 free throw shooting.  Taylor Vollmer was their most successful ball handler against the press and made a couple of nice end-to-end moves. She had 13 points.

This should not be taken as undue criticism of the officials or the job they did, but it was quite clear that one of the three was a novice.  This became most apparent when a player went to the floor with the ball and sat there, rolling around on her backside--traveling, obviously.  The new official was right there and blew the whistle.  Somehow, her team ended up with the ball out of bounds.  If we ever knew what the call was, we've forgotten, but the call wasn't traveling, nor was it a foul.  A timeout was called and the officials conferred; from their hand gestures the others were clearly explaining to the young ref what had happened.  No harm was done and it made no difference in the outcome.  Probably a good game for everyone on both teams, the scoring table, and the refs to sort things out.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 30, 2008, 01:18:20 pm
Carthage topped Johns Hopkins, 68-50. Katie Jarger hit 9/12, 3/4 FT, leading the Reds with 21 pts.
With Carthage playing moderately-paced games, we might not see a lot of big individual statistical outputs in any one game. But a lot of players contribute, of course.
Aurora beat North Central, 80-76. NC had 26 turnovers, more than they can be happy with.
I saw Elmhurst fly past Benedictine, 95-77. Anna Randazzo was an early factor, revving up the Jays' offense. She finished with 4 assists and 4 steals in 18:00. Their major veteran players all did well.
Some newcomers who are providing immediate help include : 6'3" Laurel Benson, who has a soft shooting touch around the basket, 6' Megan Ney, an athletic and strong power forward and 5'11" Meghan Merklein, who has small forward skills and agility. There are other new kids, but these three are getting the opportunity now and are making good use of it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on December 01, 2008, 11:33:29 am
I, too, watched both Elmhurst games over the weekend.  I agree with Rog K's comments about the three freshmen (Ney, Merklein, and Benson) offering significant early contributions to compliment the veteran core group.  The Jays certainly have the ability to wear teams down due to the way they consistently run the floor coupled with a deeper bench than last season.  I also look for them to have a better balance with respect to the inside-outside game which will challenge the opponents on the defensive end.  Expect these newcomers to become more comfortable with each game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: petemcb on December 01, 2008, 07:13:27 pm
I spend most of my board time on the CCIW men's site, but am curious if anyone knows whether or not the Merklein you are mentioning has a brother who spent time at Lake Fores, Harper, and is now at UW-LaCrosse.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 01, 2008, 07:23:38 pm
Don't know, petemcb.
Congrats to Carthage's Katie Jarger, conference player of the week.
Yesterday's Lady Reds game went better for Wash U than for Carthage, 83-54.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 02, 2008, 05:31:45 pm
A fine game from Kelly Brooks (17 pts, 13 rebs in 26:00) helped Wheaton defeat Clarke last night, 71-58.
Kathleen Fidelia led with 20 pts and six steals.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 02, 2008, 08:14:57 pm
Illinois Wesleyan, up to #5 in this week's D3Hoops poll, defeated a Missouri Baptist team that I think is much better than the 86-59 score might suggest.  The Titans came out ready to play, forcing 27 turnovers.  Christina Solari had another double-double, 19 points and 11 rebounds, in only 25 minutes of playing time.  Colleen Caplice, the other IWU starting post player, scored 10 and had 9 rebounds in 26 minutes.  First-year player Kylie Castans continues to impress, scoring 13 with 2 rebounds in only 12 minutes.  Mo Bap are a big, strong team, and they play physical ball.  Lots of young Titans got some quality minutes which will hopefully serve them well later in the season.

Several members of the Millikin team were in attendance, as they play Mo Bap this weekend.  It was good to see a few more students at Shirk, and to have the pep band back.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 03, 2008, 11:28:48 am
North Park played a very smart game, taking a 78-50 win over NAIA Judson.
A fine effort was turned in by all, including implementing a good defensive plan which bothered Judson throughout the contest.
At the offensive end, the Vikings shot 52% from the floor and hit 30 of 39 FTs.
Up in Wisconsin, Elmhurst felled Lakeland, 71-64.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on December 03, 2008, 01:26:55 pm
A nice win for Elmhurst last night up at Lakeland.  Although it certainly wasn't the team's best effort of the young season, a road win is always positive.  Lakeland made several late runs, but the Bluejays were able to hold off the Muskies by virtue of many assorted contributions from the entire team.  The Bluejays will have a good test this Saturday when they host the University of Chicago.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on December 03, 2008, 10:03:31 pm
North Park played a very smart game, taking a 78-50 win over NAIA Judson.
A fine effort was turned in by all, including implementing a good defensive plan which bothered Judson throughout the contest.
Congratulations to the Vikings and new head coach Amanda Reese on the team's first victory of the season.  We wish you continued success!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 04, 2008, 01:45:14 pm
Attended the Wheaton game last night : they ran into a stifling defense at the U of Chicago and lost 66-55. At the half, it was 32-17.
Soph Lissie McAlvey did have a nice game, scoring 12 (1/1 2fg, 2/4 3fg, 4/4 FT) and getting 6 rebounds in 22:00. Excluding her 3 for 5, Wheaton's FG% was 20.2.
North Central got clobberated 89-55 at UW Stevens Point.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 06, 2008, 12:57:39 pm
Carthage sailed to an 80-48 victory over Greenville in Eureka.
In the box score, it says Cory Bazany committed six fouls. Does she think she's in the NBA?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 06, 2008, 05:33:40 pm
Just saw Elmhurst get beaten 61-48 by the U of Chicago. It was close for a big chunk of the game, but the visiting urbanites scored 18 of the final 22 points to ease away.
The U of C did not allow many open shots in the 2nd half, restricting Elmhurst to 8/33 FG shooting.
Next Saturday, U of C hosts Illinois Wesleyan.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 06, 2008, 05:45:35 pm
Trinity International, which earlier lost in OT to Millikin, won at North Park this afternoon, 77-65, overcoming a huge effort by NP's LaRae Kostreva : 26 pts (9/16, 8/9), 15 rebs, 3 blks, 2 steals.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 06, 2008, 09:38:58 pm
All five starters for Illinois Wesleyan scored in double figures as the Titans defeated Maryville 92-82 in St. Louis Saturday afternoon.  Mallory Heydorn had not had a big scoring game this season; she broke out for 28 points, including 8 3's and 4 assists (although it seems like more).  Christina Solari scored 21 and added a game-high 17 rebounds.  Hope Schulte scored 13, Claire Sheehan 14, and Colleen Caplice 10. 

The game was a much closer affair than the last meeting between these two teams, in the first round of the NCAA playoffs last March, when the Titans rolled to a 30-point margin.  The Saints played with a lot of spirit and made the most of their height advantage in the post on offense.  Allie Wilhelm went 7/8 and scored 17, while 6'4" Rachel Viehmann chipped in 9.  When those two got the ball on the block they were unstoppable.  (A big part of that is that they never put the ball on the floor when they get it in that spot--excellent play!)  The Titans led by 8 at halftime, 47-39.  In the second half the Saints went on a scoring run and took the lead twice at around 10:00 to play.  Then a pair of Titan threes from Heydorn and Schulte gave the Titans a lead they would never relinquish. 


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 07, 2008, 02:43:58 pm
More Saturday results :
Carthage got past Eureka, 61-50. Katie Jarger was red hot (or certainly very warm), making 8/12 FG (2 for 3 threes) and 9/10 FTs for 27 pts, also seizing 9 rebounds.
Millikin had a lively game (with 56 total fouls) vs Missouri Baptist but finished at the short end of an 87-79 final.
Brooke Carlson tallied 21 pts and had 5 assists.
Wheaton fell to Judson, 74-64.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 07, 2008, 03:00:16 pm
Rog (or anyone),

What can you tell us about the University of Chicago?  Bryanne Halfhill looks to be a key player.  The game scores would suggest that they favor a deliberate pace rather than running and gunning.  Thanks!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 08, 2008, 01:39:05 pm
Hoosier Titan, you are correct to deduce from the U of C's scores that they do not normally want to get into a "track meet" if they can help it.
We'll see if they can control the tempo vs IWU on Saturday.
Halfhill is an impressive freshman, for sure, shooting 44% on threes, 60% on twos and 89 on FTs. You might see a lot of Claire Sheehan similarity in her game.
Looking at various other Chicago players' FG percentages at this stage of the season will not necessarily tell you how good they are. They have a bunch of talented players. Combine that with a defense that can be outstanding for long stretches of the game and you have a difficult opponent coming up for the Titans. Of course, the U of C has a difficult opponent on Saturday, too.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on December 08, 2008, 02:42:19 pm
I thought Elmhurst did an excellent job with the interior defense against University of Chicago this past Saturday.  The Elmhurst bigs controlled the U of C bigs, but the visitors did a nice job of kicking out to the arc on many occasions during the game.  U of C knocked down several three balls with the shot clock winding down to five or six seconds.  It was a well-played defensive game on both ends of the floor, and was a much closer game than the final score would indicate due to free throws at the end when Elmhurst had to foul.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 09, 2008, 11:21:11 am
Carthage improved to 6-2 on the road, up-ending Beloit, 66-60.
Congratulations to North Park's LaRae Kostreva, CCIW player of the week.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 09, 2008, 11:27:48 am
Thanks for the info, Rog and OHB.  I had seen several different names as contributors in different wins for Chicago.  Nice to have different options.  Looking forward to visiting the Ratner Center again!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jshoops on December 10, 2008, 10:14:49 am
I think I've got the wife talked into going to the game(she's enamored with UofC) with the kids to see IWU/C. Solari suit it up against UofC.   It should be a good game.

How's the parking around the Ratner Center and where is the main entrance to the building? 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 10, 2008, 01:40:03 pm
Article on IWU from Bloomington Pantagraph...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/10/usports/doc493f3bedd80a8286171194.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 10, 2008, 03:12:36 pm
Thanks for posting that link, Bob.  It is nice to see the Titan women getting some recognition. 

js-as I recall, the U. of Chicago web site has decent directions and there is parking near the entrance.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 11, 2008, 01:19:58 pm
jshoops, the Ratner Center entrance faces east. Once inside, take the hallway on the left to the gym. Note the interesting architectural features of the structure; the building is designed by famed architect Cesar Pelli, who also did the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur.
Catching up on recent games :
Millikin trounced Lake Forest 80-49, thanks to a 51-21 2nd half.
Wheaton lost to #7 Whitewater 88-56.
North Central lost to Robert Morris Chicago 58-54.
Augie lost to cross-river rival St Ambrose 89-62.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 13, 2008, 01:08:34 pm
Following a game against D3 #7 Whitewater, Wheaton faced NAIA #7 St Xavier last night and played a good, energetic game. The host Cougars prevailed 80-73.
Kathleen Fidelia scored 23, missing just 7 shots. For a while, it looked like she would go off for 35 or more, but SXU got in her way more often.
Everyone else made good contributions too : 13 rebounds from Annie Bowen, 5/7 threes from Lynnea Kvam, 3 steals and 4 assists from Sarah Jones, 2/2 free throws, a steal and jubilant cheering and encouragement from Noelle Dryden. The others helped, making some shots, grabbing some rebounds, playing mostly good defense and handling the ball pretty well.
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 13, 2008, 09:17:57 pm
The matchup between Illinois Wesleyan (#3 in this week's poll) and Chicago (#17) at U. of Chicago's Ratner Center was physical and downright ugly at times.  Both teams play good defense, with the Titans preferring to run on offense and the Maroons favoring a more deliberate pace.  Chicago had a small lead for the first five minutes or so, with the Titans taking their first lead on sub Nikki Preston's 3-pointer.  The Titans never trailed after that, stretching their first half lead to 14 once.  The score was 35-23 at the half.

In the second half, Chicago narrowed the lead to 8 several times and to 6 once with 5:48 to play.  Then the Titans went on a defensive run, resulting in a pair of baskets from Claire Sheehan and a basket and two free throws from Preston.  Chicago scored only one basket and two free throws in the final 5:48 of the game.  The final score was 64-47.

Molly Hackney led the Maroons with 16 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 2 steals.  Three Titans scored in double figures.  Claire Sheehan had 14, Christina Solari 13, and Nikki Preston 10.  Solari also pulled in 11 rebounds for her fifth consecutive double-double.  Mallory Heydorn had an off day on the score sheet but dished out 4 assists and played excellent defense.

The shooting percentages for both teams were low:  37% overall on FGs for the Titans (as opposed to their season average of 44%), and 31% for the Maroons, whose season average is 40%.  Of course, good defense on both ends had a lot to do with those percentages (and I'm actually surprised they're not lower).  All in all, a tough, hard-nosed contest that should help both teams down the road.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 14, 2008, 10:58:45 am
I neglected to mention a couple of key highlights from the IWU-Chicago game.  1)  Claire Sheehan's defense on top Chicago scorer Brianne Halfhill was outstanding.  Halfhill scored only 5 points, well below her 15 point average.  2)  I mentioned Nikki Preston several times in the first post, but every player off the IWU bench made meaningful contributions.  They outscored the Chicago bench 23-12 with several of their baskets coming at key times as Chicago tried to make a run.

The Pantagraph's story is here:
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/14/usports/doc4944857d7f5a3177366414.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 15, 2008, 09:26:32 am
To add a comment to HT's report on the IWU game - this was my first look at them and I was impressed by the few minutes played by Titan freshman Kylie Castans. She quickly burried a three and appears to be a confident, competent addition to the IWU roster.
Millikin won twice, with Kayla Pembrook turning in 16 pt, 12 reb and 22 pt, 15 reb games. Against Fontbonne, Elise Wildman scored 33, adding 12 reb. Tracie Yantis had 5 steals.
Augie lost to DePauw.
North Central shot .544 while defeating Loras, 76-68. Brianne Parra made 10 of 13 FG attempts.
Elmhurst sped past Dubuque 89-69. Brittany Bobruk grabbed 12 rebounds in only 21:00 of play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 15, 2008, 10:45:22 pm
Carthage rolled to an easy 66 - 40 victory tonight over Lawrence on the practice court of the NBA Orlando Magic in Maitland, FL.
Lawrence kept at it, but were clearly overmatched in talent, size and depth by the Lady Reds.
Lisa Gartelos led Carthage with 12 pts and 5 rebs in 16 efficient minutes.
The opening game of the evening saw Elmhurst get clunked by Hope College, 72 - 49. The Bluejays shot just .246 FG%; Hope's defense can take some credit for that, but not all.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 17, 2008, 12:12:21 pm
Saw the 2nd set of games last night.
Lyndsie Long had a very sharp game (27 pts, 3 steals, 8 rebs) to lead Elmhurst over Lawrence, 76-65.
Carthage played Hope tight in the 1st half (30-27) but the Flying Dutch intensified their defense in the 2nd half and pulled away, winning 64-46. Nevertheless, many Lady Reds played well. Hope is just too dang good.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 19, 2008, 07:44:43 am
IWU has lost All-American PG Mallory Heydorn for a month or so...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/19/usports/doc494b26859139e060456485.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 19, 2008, 12:39:23 pm
Mount Mary has bowed out of NPU's tourney at the last minute, so today's portion of the tournament will only include the Lakeland vs. MacMurray game. NPU will play the winner tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on December 19, 2008, 12:56:27 pm
Mount Mary has bowed out of NPU's tourney at the last minute, so today's portion of the tournament will only include the Lakeland vs. MacMurray game. NPU will play the winner tomorrow afternoon.

That's really last minute on their part.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 19, 2008, 02:12:58 pm
Presumably Mount Mary's cancellation is due to weather.  Everything is closed here in Bloomington, including IWU.  We're waiting to hear whether the games here are still on. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 19, 2008, 02:23:04 pm
As of now, the games are still on in Bloomington:  5:15 IWU women against Fontbonne; 7:30 men against Chicago.  I will post if anything changes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 19, 2008, 08:09:09 pm
IWU 101
Fontbonne 53

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 19, 2008, 11:18:49 pm
IWU cruised to a 101-53 victory over Fontbonne at the Shirk Center early Friday evening.  Titan coach Mia Smith made a virtue out of necessity in trying several players at the point guard position due to Mallory Heydorn's stress fracture.  Mallory is expected to be out for a month.   Holly Harvey started in Heydorn's place and acquitted herself well, especially on both sides of the press.  Nikki Preston, Hope Schulte, Karen Solari, and Kylie Castans all took turns in the position as well.  The game ball goes to Claire Sheehan whose 24 points (8/12 from the field, 3/4 on 3's, 5/6 on FTs), 4 assists, and 2 steals added up to an outstanding game.  Christina Solari missed a double double for the first time all season but still was a major contributor with 16 points and 7 rebounds.  The Titans shot well:  51.6% on FG for the game and 87.5% on free throws. Preston and Schulte scored 9 points each, and Stacey Arlis impressed with her movement in the low post to score 6. 

For the Griffins, Calli Collier contributed 19, 9  on 9/10 shooting at the free throw line.  Mallory Ludwig was 4/4 in the low post to score 8.

The Griffins have had a brutal schedule:  over the last 10 days they've played Rust, Eureka, Illinois College, Wash. U., and Millikin before tonight's game at IWU.  The Titans are next in action on Dec. 27 against Linfield in the Puget Sound Winter Classic in Tacoma, Washington.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 20, 2008, 12:56:06 pm
Mount Mary has decided to trek into the big city today. It'll play the loser of yesterday's game, MacMurray, at 1 pm today while NPU takes on the winner, Lakeland, at 3 pm.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 20, 2008, 04:28:19 pm
Some video from the IWU game yesterday from a local TV station sportscast...

http://centralillinoisproud.com/content/fulltext/?cid=38231
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 20, 2008, 05:05:16 pm
ICN5, the local station which covers the Titans' games, also has video highlights of all men's and women's games online:
http://www.icn5.com/homepage.html
Click on "sports" to the left and then "ICN5 replay."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 21, 2008, 01:45:59 pm
Here's the direct link to that ICN5 page.  Thanks to Titan Q for pointing this out--I don't get this when on the replay page, but the link does work.
http://www.icn5.com/replay.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 22, 2008, 07:02:37 pm
Some other CCIW highlights from recent days :
On Friday, Millikin beat Wisc Lutheran 81-57. Kayla Pembrook had 23 pts, 9 reb and 4 assists.
The Big Blue also won Saturday, 70-62 over Maryville in OT. Elise Wildman contributed 21 pts and 10 reb.
Augustana had a double OT win over Peace 85-76. Natalie Runge scored 27 and grabbed 15 rebounds. Sarah Rachwalski had 6 assists, 11 reb and 13 pts.
Augie forward Lani Kasten had 16 pts and 11 reb the next day vs. Lynchburg, but the Vikings lost 71-63.
Carthage remains winless at home (ha ha) but will finally get to play there. Originally, all eleven of their nonconference games were to be on the road, but Clarke has kindly consented to switch the upcoming game from their home gym to the Lady Reds' new digs in Kenosha.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 24, 2008, 01:24:00 pm
IWU has ascended to #2 in the nation. They will next play in damp Tacoma this weekend.
Congratulations also for Kayla Pembrook on being CCIW player of the week.
Over her last four games, she rang up 74 points, 44 rebounds, 10 assists and 5 steals, while shooting 60% (15/25) on 2s, 47% (9/19) on 3s and 17/24 FTs. Plus, we know she plays very good general defense.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 27, 2008, 10:32:57 pm
Illinois Wesleyan made it to Tacoma and fought off a second-half rally by Linfield to win 75-62.  I was only able to follow on live stats.  Some of the highlights:  Christina Solari had what's become her usual double-double with 16 points and 10 rebounds.  Kylie Castans had 10 points and 9 boards, and Holly Harvey, starting at point guard, had 12.  Claire Sheehan and Stacey Arlis each had 9, Nikki Preston 8, and Hope Schulte 7 for the Titans.  Although Sheehan's point total was below her average, they were key points, as she twice helped stop Linfield scoring runs.  Sheehan and Hope Schulte each had 4 assists.  Looks as though Whitney Honn was nearly unstoppable for the Wildcats with 8/10 shooting in 25 minutes.  She had 18 points and Nadra Evans 17.

Tomorrow the Titans play Puget Sound, who have just beaten Luther 69-59. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 28, 2008, 08:57:05 am
Here's the Pantagraph story on the IWU game:

IWU Women Fight Off Linfield (http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/28/usports/doc4956fa1119501528854176.txt/)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jshoops on December 29, 2008, 08:24:51 am
Pantagraph story: IWU women cruise past Loggers in tourney play http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/29/usports/doc49584f84a329b319866916.txt (http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/29/usports/doc49584f84a329b319866916.txt)

I kept up with the game on LiveStats.  The Loggers tried to keep up for 40 minutes but IWU put their foot down and took control late in 2nd half.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 29, 2008, 02:12:26 pm
Writing from the 5th floor of the fabulous new Seattle Public Library, a few notes on IWU's games in Tacoma :
Last night, they beat host U of Puget Sound, 73-54. Tournament MVP Christina Solari was quite good -- 5 steals, 8 assists, 14 rebounds and 15 pts (5/7, 5/8).
Claire Sheehan also had an excellent game, scoring 23, hitting 6/8 twos, 2/3 threes and all 5 FTs.
Nikki Preston had a productive 21:00, tallying 11 pts via just 6 shots.
The rest of the bunch contributed very well, as well, in both games.
My sister and I also had the pleasure of meeting the Holly Harvey parents while riding the #16 Pierce Co Transit bus before and after the games. Any visitors who dive into the local public transit get a good grade from me.
Kylie Castans missed the 2nd game due to a gurgling stomach.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 04, 2009, 09:13:59 pm
I can't let this board stay 'dead' for an entire week! ;)

#3 and #4 both lost these past two weeks, so #1 is clearly between Rochester and IWU.  UR led by only 6 points in the prior poll, and has been idle while the Titans have won three games (albeit none of them particularly impressive).  So -- who's #1 this week?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jshoops on January 04, 2009, 09:50:43 pm
Well, for 38:42 minutes IWU was behind St. Francis(D-II) and IWU pulled it off.  Nothing too unusual, game totals all within the IWU averages, 4-5 fewer rebounds and Solari picked up 3 fouls in 2 minutes in the first half.  So on the other hand, at the end of 40 minutes,  good teams figure out a way to win regards of the circumstances.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 04, 2009, 10:29:15 pm
I posted my reply on the Top 25 board.  I didn't summarize the game here because 1) I wasn't there (although that hasn't stopped me before :D ), and 2) I wasn't there because I was on my way to California for a conference, getting settled in, and doing this week's "How They Fared".  Was anybody here at St. Francis?  It would be good to have an eyewitness account.  Rog or anyone?

I think the Titans would be a worthy #1, but a place or two doesn't really matter as much as finding a way to win.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 05, 2009, 03:16:59 pm
I was at NAIA Olivet Nazarene vs. Millikin, Hoosier Titan. I see that Claire Sheehan had another nice game in the IWU win over NAIA St Francis, 20 pts, 5 steals.
Millikin had trouble with ONU’s continuous, all over the floor, tight pressing and trapping. The Big Blue had 25 first half turnovers, 44 for the game, which was won by ONU, 104-79.
Millikin will not face a defense quite like that in the CCIW.
I sat near the Millikin bench and was impressed to hear Coach Kerans continually encouraging and teaching her players.
Freshmen Bethany Wellbaum and Julia Robert each played 13 minutes in the 2nd half, giving them valuable experience facing a highly energetic opposition. It looks to me that both of ‘em will be able to add depth for the Big Blue this season and can be prominent in Millikin’s upcoming years.
Jacquie Larson provided 8 pts, 4 rebs, a couple of assists and a steal in her 15:00.
Tracie Yantis led with 16 pts and 5 assists.
ONU (11-3) was led by 27 pts from Courtney Hehn, who made 8 of 18 threes in 18:00. I like that thinking : if you have someone who can shoot, let her shoot! Of course, the other ONU players took a combined 75 shots, so they weren’t looking to Hehn (20 FG att total) every time, obviously.
Eight ONU players had 2 or more steals.
IWU will face ONU in February. Try to fit that one into your schedule, HT.
Elsewhere, Augie lost, NP lost and won. Wheaton won in OT, thanks in part to Annie Bowen's 18 pts, 16 rebs.
In a few hours, Carthage finally has its first home game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on January 05, 2009, 03:30:31 pm
Elmhurst jumps back into action tomorrow night against non-conference Vassar College.  I believe that Vassar goes on to play North Park on Wednesday evening as the second leg of their trip.  The Jays will still be without the services of starters Kelsey Monroe and Megan Ney due to injury.  Hopefully, both will be back within the next game or two as conference action ramps up.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 05, 2009, 07:22:38 pm
#3 and #4 both lost these past two weeks, so #1 is clearly between Rochester and IWU.  UR led by only 6 points in the prior poll, and has been idle while the Titans have won three games (albeit none of them particularly impressive).  So -- who's #1 this week?

Rochester remains #1, but the gap is down to 4.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 06, 2009, 03:06:37 pm
Titans are #1 in that other poll!
http://www.wbca.org/DIIICoachesPoll.asp
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 06, 2009, 03:12:53 pm
And congratulations to CCIW player of the week, the Titans' Claire Sheehan.
From yesterday: Wheaton topped Schreiner Univ, 77-67 behind Kathleen Fidelia's 21 pts, 6 steals, 7 rebs, 7 assists and 2 blocks.
Carthage crunched Clarke, 84-55. Katherine Burshiem scored 13 (5/7, 3/3) and grabbed 5 rebounds in 15:00 of action.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on January 08, 2009, 06:30:34 pm
North Park picked up a win against visiting Vassar, 59-45.  Here is the box score (http://www.northpark.edu/athletics/wbasketball/stats/2008stats/1-7wbb.htm).  Amanda Phillips scored 17 and Larisa Coldabella added 10 for the Vikings. Newcomer Bonnie Nge (a transfer from Judson) scored 4 in her Viking debut.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 09, 2009, 03:05:17 pm
Illinois Wesleyan won the opening conference game Tuesday, getting past Augustana 65-46. Each team used 14 players (not all at once).
For IWU, Christina Solari made 7 of 8 FGs, 3/3 FT, had 9 rebounds, 6 assists and 4 steals. Not bad for 23 minutes.
Fellow tall Titan Stacey Arlis made all 7 of her FG attempts, including a three, scoring 15 pts in 14:00.
Both teams combined for 2/25 on threes, which held the scoring down.
Some other recent CCIW action :
North Central topped Monmouth 73-63. The Cardinals’ Jackie Errico had a pretty nice game, 17 pts, 10 rebs, three steals and three assists. Others did well, too.
As noted by mr b, North Park upended Vassar.
Vassar also had a spot of trouble the night before, falling at Elmhurst, 90-52. Judging from the stats, it looks like numerous Jays contributed at both ends of the floor. Maggie McTeague nabbed 9 rebounds and 3 steals in 18:00.
With tomorrow’s full slate of conference games, we anticipate some interesting confrontations, such as Carthage at IWU. I plan to get my first look at Augustana, which visits Elmhurst.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 09, 2009, 04:00:56 pm
Illinois Wesleyan won the opening conference game Tuesday, getting past Augustana 65-46. Each team used 14 players (not all at once).
For IWU, Christina Solari made 7 of 8 FGs, 3/3 FT, had 9 rebounds, 6 assists and 4 steals. Not bad for 23 minutes.
Fellow tall Titan Stacey Arlis made all 7 of her FG attempts, including a three, scoring 15 pts in 14:00.
Both teams combined for 2/25 on threes, which held the scoring down.
Some other recent CCIW action :
North Central topped Monmouth 73-63. The Cardinals’ Jackie Errico had a pretty nice game, 17 pts, 10 rebs, three steals and three assists. Others did well, too.
As noted by mr b, North Park upended Vassar.
Vassar also had a spot of trouble the night before, falling at Elmhurst, 90-52. Judging from the stats, it looks like numerous Jays contributed at both ends of the floor. Maggie McTeague nabbed 9 rebounds and 3 steals in 18:00.
With tomorrow’s full slate of conference games, we anticipate some interesting confrontations, such as Carthage at IWU. I plan to get my first look at Augustana, which visits Elmhurst.


Nice line: +k!

Hmmm ... I wonder how the standings would be affected if they DID play 14 on 14! :D

BTW, I just noticed that SLIAC is rapidly gaining on us on women's bball pages - we need more chatter (and game reports), folks! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on January 09, 2009, 04:06:55 pm
It should be an interesting conference season.  Hopefully, Elmhurst can get healthy soon with recent injuries to Monroe, Randazzo and Ney.  Although it is obvious that IWU is a force to be reckoned with, we should know a lot more about the rest of the conference shortly. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 09, 2009, 04:16:44 pm
BTW, I just noticed that SLIAC is rapidly gaining on us on women's bball pages - we need more chatter (and game reports), folks! ;)

I've noticed that too--we need a LOT more chatter and game reports!  Any speculations as to why this board is relatively quiet?  Is it that there is such a strong tradition in the CCIW men's programs that the women get overlooked?  Whatever, it's a shame.

Personally, I was away at a conference over the last ten days and was kept busy doing the "How They Fared" updates.  I'll be going to more IWU games now and can report on the Titans and whichever team they are playing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on January 09, 2009, 06:22:40 pm
BTW, I just noticed that SLIAC is rapidly gaining on us on women's bball pages - we need more chatter (and game reports), folks! ;)

I've noticed that too--we need a LOT more chatter and game reports!  Any speculations as to why this board is relatively quiet?  Is it that there is such a strong tradition in the CCIW men's programs that the women get overlooked?  Whatever, it's a shame.

Personally, I was away at a conference over the last ten days and was kept busy doing the "How They Fared" updates.  I'll be going to more IWU games now and can report on the Titans and whichever team they are playing.
The board needs more posters.  Like the men's board, posters on this board representing Milliken, Elmhurst, and Carthage are scarce.  I'm surprised too about the lack of Augie posters since the men's board seems well represented.  1) I'll put up a post on the men's board asking for more posters on this board. 2)You posters whom attend games need to 'meet, greet and talk up the board' with opponents fans. 3) Maybe a women's pick'em would create interest?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on January 10, 2009, 05:02:32 pm
Congrats to the Titans for their win over Carthage today. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on January 10, 2009, 05:56:35 pm
IWU 72
Carthage 48

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/wbb2009/IWUWBB12.HTM

Mallory Heydorn played her first minutes since December 13 (stress fracture in foot).  Just 10 minutes off the bench, but it's good to have her back out there.  If the Titans can get their All-American point-guard back in the mix, it will make a very good team even better.

IWU is 12-0 overall and 2-0 in the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 10, 2009, 09:44:09 pm
Nothing close around the league today :
Had to be a satisfying win for IWU, with Mallory H returning. Carthage sort of restrained Sheehan and C Solari, but then Hope Schulte steps forward with 16 pts and 8 rebs. And Kylie Castans had a busy 15:00, scoring 14. The Titans have muchas weapons.
Millikin ran past North Park, 84-51. LaRae Kostreva had 18 of the 51.
Rebounding doesn't always coincide with winning, but it did today in Decatur, 59-24 in favor of Millikin. Crystal Zeigler had 17 pts, 8 reb for the Big Blue. And teammate Whitney Schwartz had a nice game, 11 pts (3/5 threes), 7 reb, 3 assists in 20:00.
Wheaton ripped North Central 93-67. Annie Bowen had 22 pts, 8 reb and 4 steals for the Thunder. Kathleen Fidelia added 9 assists, 19 pts and 3 steals. For the hosts, Jackie Errico had a 20 - 10 game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 10, 2009, 10:01:49 pm
I attended Elmhurst's 86-59 win over Augustana. An all-around good game for the Bluejays, as Coach Werner kept them doing the right things. Brittany Bobruk had an excellent 17:00, hitting 9 of 13 shots and playing tough defense. Kelsey Monroe returned from injury with style, scoring 17 pts and taking 9 rebounds.
Many players provide depth for Elmhurst, among them the energetic Christine Randick. Her contributions today include 4 assists.
Lyndsie Long is the best of the Jays and is among the conference's elite
players. In 24:00 this afternoon, she had 15 pts, 8 rebs, 3 steals and 2 assists. Several of her rebounds were strongly contested and she came away with them.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike11 on January 11, 2009, 11:47:04 pm
It was just your good old-fashioned blowout at NCC on Saturday. The Cards couldn't handle Wheaton's press and the Thunder jumped out to a 20-2 lead. It was by far Wheaton's best game of the season and it couldn't have come at a better time.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on January 12, 2009, 12:05:43 pm
The Elmhurst-Wheaton game should be a good contest tomorrow night.  Kelsey Monroe's presence adds much to the Jays as evidenced on Saturday.  Looks like the Jays are getting healthy at the right time.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 13, 2009, 01:43:51 pm
To add to my prior post regarding Aug at EC Saturday:
Augustana's Sarah Rachwalski scored 16 while missing just one shot.
Some of Augie's freshmen showed promise of good things to come.
Kristina Howard is quite a rebounder already.
Natalie Runge looks like a strong performer with some good moves near the basket.
Lani Kasten could turn into a very-hard-to-guard player, with her height and agility. Late in the game, she flew in and grabbed an offensive rebound and instantly tossed it in the hoop, still way up in the air. It was an athletic move more likely seen when the guys are playing.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 13, 2009, 03:09:23 pm
Congratulations to Kathleen Fidelia on her 2nd CCIW player of the week award. Already in her final season for the Thunder, it seems like just last year she was a junior!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike11 on January 13, 2009, 10:42:06 pm
Wheaton knocks off Elmhurst 66-61. The definition of a team victory. Wheaton led by as many as thirteen in the first half but the Jays brought it down to three at the half. In the second half Elmhurst pulled ahead by as many as seven before Wheaton took the lead with about a minute to go. Just a great, much needed win for the Thunder. Wheaton's defense down the stretch was superb and Jamie Jones and Kathleen Fidelia both hit some key shots. Kat led the way with 22, Jamie had 14 with 12 boards, and Annie Bowen had 11 points and 15 boards.

Lyndsie Long is one heck of a player for the Jays. She had 29.

http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/wbball/2009/1/13/wbb-elm1.asp?path=wbball
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: AndOne on January 13, 2009, 11:11:19 pm
North Central: 67
Augie:             63

Sorry, I don't have any stats, just the final.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on January 14, 2009, 11:45:43 am
The Elmhurst-Wheaton game was a good battle last night.  Hats off to Wheaton for a hard-fought victory. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 14, 2009, 01:45:25 pm
thundermike and OHB, I agree with all that you stated about last night's EC-Wheaton game.
The Thunder was a quicker team early in the 1st half and late in the 2nd half. Elmhurst was dominant for roughly the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the contest, but their main players were worn out by the end; that said, they certainly didn't stop trying. Lyndsie Long in particular gave a huge effort, scoring 29 and grabbing 15 rebounds, both career highs.
Elmhurst did make the defensive mistake of straying away from Lynnea Kvam, allowing her to bury 3 of 6 threes for an efficient 9 points. Kvam also had 3 assists and 2 steals, while playing solid defense.
Just about everyone on Wheaton played defense tight enough to make Elmhurst's passing difficult.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike11 on January 14, 2009, 02:21:38 pm
Elmhurst did make the defensive mistake of straying away from Lynnea Kvam, allowing her to bury 3 of 6 threes for an efficient 9 points. Kvam also had 3 assists and 2 steals, while playing solid defense.

Not to nitpick, but did they really make defensive mistakes on Lynnea? All of her points were in the first half and at least two of the threes were from well behind the men's line with a hand in her face. That's just the sign of a good shooter, I think the defense on her was actually very good for most of the game seeing as she only took six shots.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 14, 2009, 02:55:45 pm
I recall some straying. I also agree that she's a very good shooter, one that warrants constant attention. A defender should stay within a foot or two of her at all times (anywhere in the front court) and let the other four defenders take care of the rest of the defensive duties. That's how highly I regard Kvam's ability.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 14, 2009, 04:28:22 pm
thundermike, can you tell us about Lindsey Brenneman, who has established a place in the Wheaton starting lineup. From her season stats, I see 21 assists and only 14 turnovers.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike11 on January 14, 2009, 04:47:54 pm
thundermike, can you tell us about Lindsey Brenneman, who has established a place in the Wheaton starting lineup. From her season stats, I see 21 assists and only 14 turnovers.


Lindsey is just a really steady, dependable point guard. She has a decent stroke, but I think it is going to take some time for her to develop into a consistent scoring threat (she's only shooting like 12% or something for the season). But she's a great ballhandler who doesn't shy away from pressure and she knows how to run the offense. Defensively, she is very good--a by-product of being matched up with Kathleen Fidelia for most of the season in practice.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 14, 2009, 06:58:31 pm
Extractions from last night's other box scores :
North Central won at Augustana, 67-60. NC's Meghan McGuire tallied 17 and teammate Brianne Parra added 16, each doing so in 20 minutes. For Augie, Kristin Fox had 17 pts, 4 steals and 3 assists.
Carthage over Millikin 63-51... Lisa Gartelos led all with 19 pts (in 18:00).
In a game that featured 71 free throws and 48 fouls, Illinois Wesleyan felled North Park, 92-48. IWU's Colleen Caplice topped all with 11 rebounds in 21:00, adding 3 steals and 8 points. Five Titans scored either 11 or 14.
Although there were those 48 fouls, no player fouled out. I wonder where all the unused fifth fouls go.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike11 on January 14, 2009, 10:41:20 pm
Just to add to my earlier post, Lindsey Brenneman and Annie Bowen have really stepped up huge and solidified Wheaton's starting five. Those two spots had been sort of a revolving door until the trip to Texas, when those two really stepped up and started playing really well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 17, 2009, 12:04:28 am
Brianne Parra swished a very difficult three pointer to give North Central a 65-62 win at Elmhurst. Known for her power near the basket, she showed a nice touch from distance. She finished with 20 pts, 8 rebs.
This offset a sparkling performance by EC's Brittany Bobruk, who rang up 26 pts, 6 blocks, 9 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals.
Lyndsie Long was held to 10 pts, which I believe brings her to exactly 1000 for the career.
For the victors, Jessica Davis scored 15, Gia Navarra had 9 rebounds and Meghan McGuire had 16 pts, 10 rebs.
The Bluejays' Anna Randazzo appears to be regaining her zippy speed; she had 8 pts and 4 assists in 17:00.
Celebrity sightings included Carthage players Katie Klemke and Carlie Janowiak, having a look at their next opponents. I think they really were supposed to be in their rooms studying chemistry and Venezuelan history.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 17, 2009, 08:12:53 pm
I see Millikin gave IWU all they could handle today, tied with under 3 to go, down only 2 with under a minute, before falling by six.  I've read the Millikin release, but anyone have first-hand reports?

I was glad to see it.  This is the first single-digit d3 game since the opening tournament in St. Louis - a team can get bad habits when everything is too easy.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 17, 2009, 11:52:01 pm
It was indeed a close and hard-fought game in Decatur today.  The Big Blue were very effective in the first half and early in the second in directing the pace of the game.  They clearly did not want to run with the Titans.  They were seldom caught by the Titan press, often turning it to their advantage by getting the ball up court to their post players.   IWU did not help their own cause with poor shooting in the first half (37.5% overall, 25% on 3's and just 2/6 on free throws).  The Big Blue led 34-30 at the break.

The Titans picked up their intensity in the second half, and they were successful in increasing the pace of the game.  It took until the 8:15 mark to tie the game, however.  After Mallory Heydorn's layup at 7:26 the Titans never trailed again.  They were also more effect both at getting to the free throw line and at converting their shots, shooting 11/16 in the second half. 

Whitney Schwartz led the Big Blue with 14, while Elise Wildman and Tracie Yantis each had 11.  Claire Sheehan led the Titans with 22, Christina Solari had 8 points and 10 rebounds, Hope Schulte had 7 points and 9 rebounds, Stacey Arlis had 9 points, and Kylie Castans had 7 points and 6 rebounds.  While Heydorn scored only the one basket, she played 19 quality minutes and was credited with 3 assists.  The Titans outrebounded the Big Blue, one of D3's top rebounding teams, 41-28.

Definitely a gut check game for the Titans.  The Big Blue had a good game plan and they executed it well.  Winning the game took the entire 40 minutes and a real team effort.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 18, 2009, 11:36:01 am
Jamie Jones poured in 22 pts to lead Wheaton over Augustana 75-47.
Lindsey Brenneman had 5 steals and 5 assists.
Lisa Ballenger was 5/5 FG and 4/4 FT in 10:00.
For Aug, Lani Kasten scored 21, had 13 rebs and 3 assists.

Carthage topped North Park 89-43.
Katie Jarger shot 100%, scoring 15 in 14:00.
Carlie Janowiak blocked five shots (presumably all North Park attempts).
Shana Lieberman was very productive in her 14:00 : 3 steals, 7 pts, 7 assists.
Cory Bazany had 9 pts and 5 reb in 12:00.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike11 on January 19, 2009, 07:15:18 pm
A very important game in Decatur tomorrow night. It would be huge for Wheaton if they could win on the road against Millikin and be 4-0 going into their game against IWU on Saturday. Wheaton has yet to play a "big gun", so they could make a statement tomorrow with a win.

It's kind of the opposite story for Millikin. They have already played IWU and Carthage and come in to the game 1-2. If they lose, they will be at 1-3 and have a bit of a hole to climb out of--making their games against the "lower" teams even more of must-wins. And Millikin is coming off an emotional loss to IWU, so they may be a bit drained from that.

Needless to say, I think this is going to be a great game and hopefully Wheaton can pick up a big win
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 20, 2009, 01:38:45 pm
Congratulations to NC's Brianne Parra for being CCIW Player of the Week.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: AndOne on January 21, 2009, 11:52:26 am
North Central 80, North Park 44 last night. Wow.

http://www.northcentralcollege.edu/athletics/stats/basketball_w/08-09/wbk14.htm
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 21, 2009, 12:14:26 pm
A very important game in Decatur tomorrow night. It would be huge for Wheaton if they could win on the road against Millikin...snip...
Needless to say, I think this is going to be a great game and hopefully Wheaton can pick up a big win

You got your wish, thundermike.  Big win for Wheaton last night! 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike11 on January 21, 2009, 02:32:57 pm
A very important game in Decatur tomorrow night. It would be huge for Wheaton if they could win on the road against Millikin...snip...
Needless to say, I think this is going to be a great game and hopefully Wheaton can pick up a big win

You got your wish, thundermike.  Big win for Wheaton last night! 

Wheaton continues to play better every game, which is great for this part of the season. What it came down to last night was that the Thunder were just on fire. Every one who coach Baker put in the lineup made key contributions. And that's something you would only notice if you were at the game. For example look at Elisabeth Potts and Lissie McAlvey. You might not be blown away by their stat lines, but they both hit three-pointers in the first half that were huge in the momentum of the game, and they defended very well for the time they were in the game. The freshmen guard duo of Laura Karsten and Lindsey Brennemen was outstanding as well.

It really came down to defense for Wheaton, as Millikin was eventually worn down by the Thunder full-court press. The Big Blue was never able to get any kind of offensive rhythm, as can be seen by their shooting percentage and only having one player reach double figures.

And Wheaton's big performers did just that last night. Kathleen Fidelia took over the second half and finished with 25, Annie Bowen continued her solid inside play with 14, and Lynnea Kvam hit 3 three-pointers and had 11. Jamie Jones was plagued by foul trouble but still had 6 points.

A great team victory for Wheaton and a big confidence-booster going into Saturday's matchup with IWU. Top 25 teams are certainly not unfamiliar to Wheaton this year (Oglethorpe, Chicago, Whitewater), and now the Thunder is starting to really play well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 21, 2009, 05:58:37 pm
Elmhurst had an exciting come-from-behind 57-54 victory over Carthage.
The EC web site has a nicely-detailed recap.
The Bluejays got major late-game contributions from two players that haven’t been relied on so much previously : senior guard Jen Myers played very well down the stretch in her six minutes and freshman Meghan Merklein scored a fast dozen during a five minute flurry.
Carthage’s Katie Jarger also “came up big” at the end, hitting final minute shots (a 2 and a 3) to keep the contest very tight.
It was a game that could’ve gone either way and nearly did.
Elmhurst, trailing by 8 with 4:20 to go, was headed toward a 1-3 conference record. Roaring back to win, over a very good Carthage team, made the Jays happy to say the least.
EC’s Brittany Bobruk led everyone with 19 points. Jarger topped the Lady Reds with 16 and Lisa Gartelos added 15, plus 8 rebounds.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on January 21, 2009, 10:43:12 pm
Illinois Wesleyan 109, Augustana 52

This one was over before it started.  IWU held Auggie scoreless until the 13:37 mark and took a 34 point lead into the Titan locker room at the half.

Mallory Heydorn 24 pts 8-12 FG in 20 minutes
Claire Sheehan  19 pts  7-9 FGs in 22 minutes
Stacey Arlis        18 pts in 18 minutes off the bench
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 24, 2009, 04:20:29 pm
IWU all over Wheaton with about 10 minutes to go: 62-33.  Castans has 13, Sheehan and Solari 10 each for the Titans; Fidelia has 13 for the Thunder.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 24, 2009, 09:23:21 pm
So much for comparing scores this week in the CCIW!  Last weekend IWU got by Millikin 70-64.  On Tuesday, Wheaton thumped Millkin in Decatur 79-59, setting up what looked to be a showdown between the Titans and the Thunder at King Arena.  As Mr. Ypsi reported, it was no contest, with the Titans dominating every aspect of the game for a final score of 79-47. 

The Titans were led in scoring by first-year Kylie Castans off the bench:  18 points on 6/12 FG shooting.  Castans picked up six rebounds and generally impressed with her hustle all over the court.  Claire Sheehan (15 points, 4 assists, and a block) and Christina Solari (12 points, 18 rebounds, and 2 steals) were their usual selves.  Mallory Heydorn played for 28 minutes and looked good, moving well.  Kathleen Fidelia led the Thunder in scoring with 13 points, 7 from the free-throw line.  Annie Bowen was perhaps the Thunder's most efficient scorer, with 11 points on 5/7 shooting as well as 11 rebounds.  Whitney Edgecombe was 4/5; when she was able to establish position on the block she was unstoppable.

The Titan transition game was dominant:  they scored 23 points off fast breaks.  They won the rebounding battle 50-37, they outshot the Thunder by 42% to 29%, and they shot 83% at the line compared to Wheaton's 48%.  No Titan starter played for more than 28 minutes.

The Thunder are a solid team, but IWU was simply stronger today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 25, 2009, 06:05:30 pm
Carthage almost replicated the IWU final, defeating North Central, 77-46. The Lady Reds held NC to .204 FG% while making 50% of their own shots (30/60).
Katherine Burshiem and Katie Jarger each scored 11, with Jarger reaching the career thousand point milestone. Carlie Janowiak had 9 assists. Drewann Pancratz scored 9 pts in 13:00.
For the visitors, Brianne Parra had 7 rebs and 19 pts.
Millikin edged Augie in OT, 68-65. Tracie Yantis had 17 pts, 7 rebs and 7 steals for Millikin and teammate Elise Wildman had 23 pts and 3 blocks. Natalie Runge did very well for the Vikings, nabbing 3 steals and scoring 19 (8/12, 3/3).
I saw the 2:00 Elmhurst 70-48 win at North Park and then the 5:00 NAIA Olivet Nazarene 117-100 win at Robert Morris.
Elmhurst used 18 players and North Park 9, with 22 players getting into the scoring column. I spent the whole game doing photos of all 27 players and therefore wasn't much of an astute observer (certainly not up to my usual level of mediocrity).
I will say that while North Park is having another difficult season, they are giving it all they have. New coach Amanda Reese gets very good reviews from Viking loyalists that I spoke to, including D3Hoops poster Greg Sager, who keeps an avid watch on all things North Park.
From what I've heard, Reese and her assistant Rachel Theodore are recruiting vigorously, so there is optimism for the future. I do realize, of course, that this year's team would not be thinking about '09-'10, as there are lots of games to play this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 26, 2009, 04:04:44 pm
Hats off to IWU's Claire Sheehan for winning another CCIW Player of the Week honor.
Claire is a major reason why the Titans are doing so well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on January 26, 2009, 05:19:16 pm
I don't get the opportunity to see many, if any, CCIW WBB contests.  Based upon raw conference stats, I had thought IWU would have had a challenge with Wheaton.  I was a little surprised, not a the outcome, but at the margin of victory.  IWU's current CCIW scoring margin is +30.3 with an overall scoring margin of +22.9

Does any poster see a CCIW team beating IWU the rest of the way out?  If yes, whom and why please.

If no, does this IWU team have what it takes to 'go all the way'?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on January 26, 2009, 08:31:13 pm
I don't get the opportunity to see many, if any, CCIW WBB contests.  Based upon raw conference stats, I had thought IWU would have had a challenge with Wheaton.  I was a little surprised, not a the outcome, but at the margin of victory.  IWU's current CCIW scoring margin is +30.3 with an overall scoring margin of +22.9

Does any poster see a CCIW team beating IWU the rest of the way out?  If yes, whom and why please.

If no, does this IWU team have what it takes to 'go all the way'?

Congratulations to Mia Smith and the Titans on the school's first-ever D3hoops.com #1 ranking.  Quite an honor.

I think the Titans have a decent chance to run the table.  The game @ Carthage concerns me though.

This team runs the floor and moves the ball about as well as any team you'll see.  They also play tremendous defense.  The big question, though, is how they can handle some big, physical team.  Last year UW-Whitewater pounded IWU at the Shirk Center in the tournament.  IWU will have to deal with a WIAC team at some point on the road to Holland.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 26, 2009, 10:08:42 pm
I haven't yet seen either Elmhurst or North Central, so I couldn't give more than a guess about how IWU will do against those teams (we'll know more about Elmhurst in 24 hours).  I think Q's question about how they'll do against big, physical competition is a reasonable one.  What I can say is that the Titans have played a much tougher schedule than ever before, and they are not just playing to the level of their competition--they are playing hard every game.  Their pre-CCIW schedule included Wash U, Chicago, and St. Francis, all of whom are bigger and more physical than the Titans, and they're still undefeated.  They have a non-CCIW game scheduled in a couple of weeks against NAIA Division I Olivet Nazarene which should be an interesting challenge. 

In short, I agree that they have a reasonable chance at running the table, but there's still a long way to go.  One game, one possession, at a time.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: theoneandonly on January 27, 2009, 10:26:16 am
congrats to the IWU girls on taking over the number 1 spot!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on January 27, 2009, 11:50:18 am
Congratulations IWU Women's Basketball team.  Keep your focus and keep winning!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on January 27, 2009, 11:53:12 am
I haven't yet seen either Elmhurst or North Central, so I couldn't give more than a guess about how IWU will do against those teams (we'll know more about Elmhurst in 24 hours).  I think Q's question about how they'll do against big, physical competition is a reasonable one.  What I can say is that the Titans have played a much tougher schedule than ever before, and they are not just playing to the level of their competition--they are playing hard every game.  Their pre-CCIW schedule included Wash U, Chicago, and St. Francis, all of whom are bigger and more physical than the Titans, and they're still undefeated.  They have a non-CCIW game scheduled in a couple of weeks against NAIA Division I Olivet Nazarene which should be an interesting challenge. 

In short, I agree that they have a reasonable chance at running the table, but there's still a long way to go.  One game, one possession, at a time.
Thanks Hoosier Titan.  I have the same concern as Q and you.  I'd like to see them run the table; however, a loss would not bother me as it is really tough to 'go all the way' without a loss.  Olivet Nazarene should be a good test for IWU and good prep for a NCAA tournament run.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 27, 2009, 12:28:45 pm
[  I'd like to see them run the table; however, a loss would not bother me as it is really tough to 'go all the way' without a loss.  Olivet Nazarene should be a good test for IWU and good prep for a NCAA tournament run.

Mia Smith is talking about keeping the team focused on being the hunter rather than the hunted, and I think that's a good way to look at it.  There's certainly been no taking anything or anybody for granted--that's how upsets happen.

I've heard some say that it might be better to lose a game before the NCAAs, and I don't agree with that. (I know that's not what you were saying, IWUmichigander).  While a loss wouldn't be a disaster, I don't see any advantage to it.  I think everyone understands and has learned from what happened last year and is working hard so that doesn't happen again.  That said, they still have to play the games, and there are a lot more to be played before tournament time.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: theoneandonly on January 27, 2009, 01:55:04 pm
I haven't yet seen either Elmhurst or North Central, so I couldn't give more than a guess about how IWU will do against those teams (we'll know more about Elmhurst in 24 hours).  I think Q's question about how they'll do against big, physical competition is a reasonable one.  What I can say is that the Titans have played a much tougher schedule than ever before, and they are not just playing to the level of their competition--they are playing hard every game.  Their pre-CCIW schedule included Wash U, Chicago, and St. Francis, all of whom are bigger and more physical than the Titans, and they're still undefeated.  They have a non-CCIW game scheduled in a couple of weeks against NAIA Division I Olivet Nazarene which should be an interesting challenge. 

In short, I agree that they have a reasonable chance at running the table, but there's still a long way to go.  One game, one possession, at a time.
Thanks Hoosier Titan.  I have the same concern as Q and you.  I'd like to see them run the table; however, a loss would not bother me as it is really tough to 'go all the way' without a loss.  Olivet Nazarene should be a good test for IWU and good prep for a NCAA tournament run.

I do think olivet will be a good test for IWU. Even  though ONU isint playing its best ball at the moment sitting at 13-6 they have been playing tough teams and as recently as 2007-2008 were the CACC champs and played in the NAIA national tourney. and if the McHie Arena is packed, it could be a tough place to play. we will see though, i think the IWU ladies will hold it down though and leave bourbonnais (olivet) with a W!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on January 27, 2009, 10:15:13 pm
IWU 87
Elmhurst 50

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/live/Basketball/xlive.htm


Christina Solari had 13 pts, 8 reb, and 10 assists.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 28, 2009, 12:24:16 am
It was a slow start for both teams at the Shirk Center.  More than two minutes elapsed before Elmhurst's Brittany Bobruk made a layup, and at the 15-minute mark the score was 9-2 in favor of IWU.  The Titans finally got on track with key contributions from Kylie Castans and Nikki Preston, in combination with the starters.  The halftime score was 46-22.

It was not a good game for Elmhurst.  They had a lot of trouble with the Titan press, and most of the players looked--pretty quickly--as though they'd rather be somewhere else, understandably.

The Titan effort was a joint one.  Claire Sheehan led the scoring with 16 points, and Christina Solari just missed a triple double with 13 points, 8 rebounds, and 10 assists. 

Regarding our earlier posts today--I saw no letup at all in intensity for the Titans.  They continue to look sharp and play hard.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on January 28, 2009, 12:30:37 am
[  I'd like to see them run the table; however, a loss would not bother me as it is really tough to 'go all the way' without a loss.  Olivet Nazarene should be a good test for IWU and good prep for a NCAA tournament run.

Mia Smith is talking about keeping the team focused on being the hunter rather than the hunted, and I think that's a good way to look at it.  There's certainly been no taking anything or anybody for granted--that's how upsets happen.

I've heard some say that it might be better to lose a game before the NCAAs, and I don't agree with that. (I know that's not what you were saying, IWUmichigander).  While a loss wouldn't be a disaster, I don't see any advantage to it.  I think everyone understands and has learned from what happened last year and is working hard so that doesn't happen again.  That said, they still have to play the games, and there are a lot more to be played before tournament time.
Not taking anything away from the other CCIW teams, IWU needs to compete against themselves to get to a 'next level'.   What can we do even better?  Can we win with a the same or slightly higher scoring margin and the starters playing fewer minutes?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 28, 2009, 07:51:47 am
Not taking anything away from the other CCIW teams, IWU needs to compete against themselves to get to a 'next level'.   What can we do even better?  Can we win with a the same or slightly higher scoring margin and the starters playing fewer minutes?

I forget how to insert a link properly, but here's the one to today's Pantagraph story.  It addresses your point.

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/01/28/usports/doc497fe672b13ac809868125.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 28, 2009, 01:54:09 pm
I will compliment IWU by pointing out that when they defeated Elmhurst, they defeated a good team.
The game I attended saw Wheaton’s Kathleen Fidelia pour in 17 of her team’s 50 2nd half points, leading the Thunder to an 86-68 win at North Park. It had been tied at 54.
Fidelia can accelerate from a standstill as fast as anyone, and had plenty of late-game energy.
I was also impressed by the play of Wheaton’s new freshman guard, Laura Karsten. I add “new” because she was playing soccer well into the basketball season. She has quick feet, no doubt a by-product of her soccer training. She also had no hesitation launching threes when open, making 3 of 5.
Wheaton and North Park each enjoyed solid contributions from numerous players.
NP’s Hilary Kuhl, who doesn’t have an OFF switch, clunked her head loudly on the floor for at least the second straight game. I think 4 out of 5 physicians would recommend that she stop doing that.
In other CCIW action, Carthage’s defense again held an opponent under 30% shooting, this time upending Augie 64-38. Rosie Dorn and Shana Lieberman scored 13 apiece for the Lady Reds.
Millikin topped North Central 63-50. Four Big Blue persons scored in double figures, led by Julia Robert with 12 pts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on January 28, 2009, 06:25:08 pm
Not taking anything away from the other CCIW teams, IWU needs to compete against themselves to get to a 'next level'.   What can we do even better?  Can we win with a the same or slightly higher scoring margin and the starters playing fewer minutes?

I forget how to insert a link properly, but here's the one to today's Pantagraph story.  It addresses your point.

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/01/28/usports/doc497fe672b13ac809868125.txt

Thanks HT!  It's terribly difficult to get teams to develop that 'killer instinct' to put an opponent away early.  Let's face it, the starters and the first two off the bench want to get minutes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 28, 2009, 06:41:47 pm
iwumichigander, I think you've just insulted IWU's best players quite a bit.
Your comment "It's terribly difficult to get teams to develop that 'killer instinct' to put an opponent away early.  Let's face it, the starters and the first two off the bench want to get minutes" suggests that IWU's first seven players are not doing their best, just to get Coach Smith to leave them in the game longer.
You wanna re-think that one?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 28, 2009, 06:44:10 pm
The MIAC MBB board has also been engaged in the debate over whether an undefeated team should secretly hope for a loss to take the pressure off (St. Thomas is the last remaining undefeated men's team, and seems fairly likely to maintain that status throughout the regular season).

I personally don't buy the 'take the pressure off' argument (neither does Bob Knight, who coached the last D1 men's team to go undefeated) and am rooting for the Titans to go all the way undefeated.  But I sure wouldn't mind a couple of close calls to remind them that they are unbeaten, but not unbeatable! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on January 28, 2009, 08:25:05 pm
iwumichigander, I think you've just insulted IWU's best players quite a bit.
Your comment "It's terribly difficult to get teams to develop that 'killer instinct' to put an opponent away early.  Let's face it, the starters and the first two off the bench want to get minutes" suggests that IWU's first seven players are not doing their best, just to get Coach Smith to leave them in the game longer.
You wanna re-think that one?
No. 
And, my comments (although stated differently) are not any different than Coach Smith's in the referenced Pantagraph article:
Quote
Calling a timeout with 15:46 remaining in the second half, Illinois Wesleyan women’s basketball coach Mia Smith chastised her team for “just trading baskets” Tuesday at Shirk Center. ... I said ‘we’re not pushing this lead. Your objective coming out of the locker room was to push the lead. Source: Pantagraph

I have measurements I use to judge 'NCAA Final Four capable teams'. One of them is: The top seven players have optimized their skills, and developed through outstanding coaching, a 'killer team instinct' which enables them to create, or seize, opportunities to close out games within the 30-35 minutes mark.  When a team reaches this plateau, the first 7 are more rested, the other 8 better tested and a 'championship mindset' developed, to enable the endurance required to make an NCAA tournament run.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 28, 2009, 10:54:52 pm
The MIAC MBB board has also been engaged in the debate over whether an undefeated team should secretly hope for a loss to take the pressure off (St. Thomas is the last remaining undefeated men's team, and seems fairly likely to maintain that status throughout the regular season).

I personally don't buy the 'take the pressure off' argument (neither does Bob Knight, who coached the last D1 men's team to go undefeated) and am rooting for the Titans to go all the way undefeated.  But I sure wouldn't mind a couple of close calls to remind them that they are unbeaten, but not unbeatable! ;)

Ypsi, you've mentioned one of my formative basketball experiences (I graduated from IU in '73 and was at the final game for that undefeated team in 75-76.)  That's the reason I've never bought the "take the pressure off" argument.  There's no pressure on teams that aren't in the hunt; there's always pressure on ones that are.  You want the pressure; what you have to do is learn to relax and play through it.  There were quite a few close calls during that undefeated season, and there have been a few for the Titans this year.   

One game at a time!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 29, 2009, 12:16:21 am
HT, I certainly remember that game, since I was still a UM grad student at the time (for those other than HT, who would certainly remember, IU defeated UM in the title game).  Since my GF at the time (definitely NOT my wife!) was a movie buff rather than a bball fan, I recall Elliot Gould sneaking in the score at the Oscar's!  [Note that March Madness has grown so much that the Oscar's have changed dates so as not to go head-to-head!]

IMO an undefeated national title is such a treat that the pressure is more on the other team to try to prevent it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 29, 2009, 08:14:34 am
IWUMichigander,

Have you seen this year's Titans play?  If not, you really should.  I think your criteria for Final Four readiness are pretty arbitrary.  Even so, the Titans more than meet them.  The game was effectively "put away" by about the 10 minute mark, when the lead reached 18.  There are more than seven players who are capable of taking the floor without dropping the level of play; depending on what is needed I'd say there are anywhere from 8 to 10 Titans in that category right now. 

I don't see any signs at all that players are trying to get more minutes any way other than by playing hard when they do get on the floor.  Right now the challenge is to keep up the level of play for a full 40 minutes, even when IWU is way ahead, while balancing the minutes so that the starters stay sharp and the non-starters get lots of game experience. 

If the Titans' lead had started falling significantly in the second half, I might agree that more "killer instinct" is needed.  But Mia Smith's exhortation to stop trading baskets came at 15:46 in the second half.  A quick reminder--and the lead shot from 23 into the 30's, where it remained.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on January 29, 2009, 10:43:01 am
I attended the IWU-Elmhurst game at the Shirk Center this past Tuesday.  I know quite a bit about the IWU roster as the first seven or more are Chicago-area players.   My daughter has played AAU ball with at least two players on the roster.  The team is extremely well coached, and the various skill sets have been masterfully merged together by Coach Smith.  The Titans are a well-oiled machine that are definitely ready to make a run at the national championship this season.

With respect to the game itself, I do believe that the Bluejays can offer significantly more competition at the next game in Elmhurst as virtually the entire team was competing with either the flu or viral bronchitis.  In spite of the score, I thought the Jays competed as hard as they could on that given night.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on January 29, 2009, 12:18:24 pm
Now that a fair amount of conference games have been played, I was looking at the conference-only stats on cciw.org.
The absence of Mallory Heydorn from the 3 point leaders was confusing.
She has hit 12 of 29 threes in CCIW play so far, so she would be between Lynnea Kvam and Lani Kasten in the PCT leaders and her 2.4 makes per game would tie her with Kvam.
An anonymous source (Mike Krizman, CCIW SID and assistant commissioner) informed me that the NCAA stats programs require a player to play in 75% of her team's games for inclusion in the leaders. Mallory has played in 5 of IWU's 7 conference games and 11 of 17 overall.
Assuming she plays Saturday, she’ll meet the ¾ requirement for conference games, so hopefully the stats program lets her in. It would be unfair if the program still excluded her from conference-only stats because she missed 4 non-conference games. We’ll see.
I don’t know if any other players are currently affected by the ¾ rule.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mactitan on January 29, 2009, 12:31:47 pm
I was a the IWU-Elmhurst game.  This was the first women's game I had been to in a few years, and I was very impressed by IWU.  People here were talking about them lacking a killer instinct.  I feel as if they crushed the Blue Jays' spirit in that game.  From their facial expressions and body language, the Blue Jays just looked beaten - and that comes from a killer instinct, pressure defense, and hitting big shots (One poster commented that it might also come from the flu). 

I also noticed a much bigger crowd than what I was used to for women's games.  Now, there wasn't the same kind of support that an undefeated men's team would be getting, but I was glad to see a couple of hundred cheering fans.  I will be much more likely this year to spend my time and money on the women's team, and am looking forward to the NCAA tournament.

On a side note, after the game Christina Solari (who missed the first triple double in school history by 2 rebounds - and didn't play much of the second half) was being interviewed by reporters.  My 2-year-old daughter and I were just hanging around.  Christina noticed my daughter, started talking to us and gave my daughter five.  All she could talk about on the way home was "that basketball player."  Thanks Christina, for making my daughter's night.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 29, 2009, 12:42:02 pm
With respect to the game itself, I do believe that the Bluejays can offer significantly more competition at the next game in Elmhurst as virtually the entire team was competing with either the flu or viral bronchitis.  In spite of the score, I thought the Jays competed as hard as they could on that given night.

Thanks for that insight, OHB.  That explains quite a bit.  I didn't want to single out players who had a bad night, but I know the Bluejays well enough to know that several players were not on their game.  I wish them a speedy recovery. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jshoops on January 30, 2009, 11:29:49 am
IWU has a great program and it all starts with the coach and that "positive attitude" feeds into the players.  After the UofC game Christina Solari came over to say hi to us and thanked us for coming to watch(we're from Park Ridge).  Coach Smith saw us and took the time to stop and talk to my 7th grade daughter, I came away very impressed with Coach Smith.   

While this team has accomplished alot this season, Coach Smith will keep this team focused on the unfinished business they have in front of them.   Unfortunately my 1/31 calendar is full so now I'm thinking about making the trip down to Olivet on 2/17.  Go Titans!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 31, 2009, 03:48:49 pm
A bit of a surprise in Naperville - at the half, IWU only up 35-33.

It's been the Christina Solari show - 19 points already.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 31, 2009, 04:38:01 pm
Well I got exactly what I'd asked for - A hard-fought Titan win.  The game was tied at 53-53 with 7:20 remaining, before the Titans went on a 10-0 run over the next 6 minutes.  Final score, 65-55.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on January 31, 2009, 09:47:35 pm
It wasn't pretty for Illinois Wesleyan in Naperville today.  The Titans held on for a 65-55 win over North Central by tightening the defense down the stretch, holding the Cardinals to only 2 points in the last 9 minutes.  To some extent, the Titans contributed to the closeness of the game by missing, uncharacteristically, quite a few point-blank shots. Neither team shot 40% (36% for the Titans, 32% for the Cardinals). 

It was another fine game from Christina Solari:  a career-high 27 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block, and 2 steals.  Combined with Tuesday night's game against Elmhurst she had 40 points, 19 rebounds, 13 assists, 2 steals, and an assist-to-turnover ratio of 2.6 for the week.  This would seem to be a pretty good case for Player of the Week!

Hope Schulte and Claire Sheehan were in double figures with 10 each for the Titans, while Gia Navarra led the Cardinals with 15 and Brianne Parra and Meghan McGuire each contributed 11.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 01, 2009, 11:00:12 am
Here's the Pantagraph story about the IWU-North Central game.  Mia Smith was much tougher on the Titans than I was in my brief report last night.

No. 1 IWU women prevail despite weaker basketball game (http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/02/01/usports/doc4984eb6fa988b815363795.txt)

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 02, 2009, 01:41:34 pm
HT, that definitely was a fine performance by Christina Solari.
IWU was a little off-balance with their shooting, but they still won.
Important to their late surge were great plays that ruined consecutive NC possessions : first, a block and rebound by Mallory Heydorn and then a block and rebound by Hope Schulte. Those stops had to be disheartening for the Cardinals.
As time dwindled, North Central didn’t turn to an effective hurry-up game.
When trailing by 8 or 10 with under 3:00 to go, the math doesn’t favor settling back into a half-court defense. Nor was there going to be time to make up at least 10 points two at a time. Oh well, IWU will take the win.
NC’s Meghan McGuire was very impressive “on the boards” with her dozen rebounds; teammate Amber Cibrario did nice work dribbling against fairly constant pressure. In hindsight, we can say that Gia Navarra should have shot more.
IWU’s players all did well defensively.
A look at the rest of the league follows when I get time. Of course, anyone else is free to do that, too.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 02, 2009, 07:04:03 pm
Congratulations to C Solari for being CCIW Player of the Week.
Wheaton improved to 6-1 with an 81-67 win over Carthage.
Jamie Jones (11/14, 2/4, 5/7 FT) piled up 29 points and Kathleen Fidelia added 25 (9/16, 4/4, 3/5 FT).
Millikin won at Elmhurst, 59-56. Crystal Zeigler had 13 pts (4/5, 5/6 FT) and 7 rebs in 22:00. Tracie Yantis also scored 13, to go along with 6 assists. 6 rebs and 3 steals. Whitney Schwartz did not post big stats but played the whole 40:00, so she did many things that met the approval of her coach.
Lyndsie Long (11/19, 5/5) tallied 27 for EC.
Augustana topped North Park, 70-57. Kristen Fox had 22 pts, 6 assists, 6 rebs and 4 steals for the Vikings. Natalie Runge had 18 pts, 7 rebs and 3 steals. Dawn Kernich (4/5, 2/2 FT) had 10 pts and 4 rebs in her 12:00. Sarah Rachwalski added 3 steals and 6 assists. For the other Vikings, LaRae Kostreva had 13 pts and 9 rebs.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 03, 2009, 12:29:22 pm
This is just to those IWU partisans who were anticipating the remaining nonconference game vs Olivet Nazarene.
You might like to know that ONU lost 110-75 in their last game.
Tonight they play St Francis, which gave the Titans a good battle.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 03, 2009, 11:44:59 pm
Tonite was one of those 'unfortunate' games: IWU 94, NPU 49.  It appears that IWU did what it could to avoid humiliation - 16 players had at least 5 minutes, only one as many as 21.  What struck me was that NPU had only 7 players in the box score - are they really THAT short-handed?  A cryin' shame, if so.  Anyone with info?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 04, 2009, 12:21:03 am
North Park only has nine players on their roster, and at least one (evidently two) of those did not play tonight.  So yes, they were very short-handed.  The outcome was never in doubt, and as you point out, Ypsi, many Titans got PT.  I'm sure there was no desire for humiliation; there is a need both to keep the starters sharp and fit and to spread out some minutes among the other players.  Mia Smith tried lots of combinations and some of the first subs in were not the usual ones to come in early--Jessica Hinterlong and Carrie Williams, for example. 

WJBC, the local radio station, was broadcasting the game tonight.  Here's their one minute report:   Titan women still undefeated (http://www.wjbc.com/TabId/7865/default.aspx?AID=3279)  The full broadcast should be here: IWU women's basketball (http://dnn.wjbc.com/WJBCcomWebcasts/tabid/1708/Default.aspx), although I haven't listened to it yet.  And it was good to see a reporter from the Pantagraph in attendance; coverage for the region's only #1 ranked team has been sparse to date!

It was Claire Sheehan's 22nd birthday, by the way.  Happy birthday, Claire!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 04, 2009, 12:22:43 am
Olivet Nazarene lost to St. Francis, 100-98.  Interesting!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Thunder Dutch on February 04, 2009, 01:36:47 am
What are Wheaton's chances of an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on February 04, 2009, 10:46:14 am
Anyone who saw the Elmhurst-Wheaton game last night enjoyed quite a show!  Records aside and removing IWU from the conversation, the game was a prime example of how little truly separates the majority of teams in the CCIW this season.  Lyndsie Long put on a showcase throughout the game, and the Jays received many contributions from freshmen Merklein and Ney on both ends of the floor.  Bobruk provided a second-half spark, while Gentry and Monroe provided solid defensive contributions.  Once again, the Wheaton seniors came through down the stretch along with Bowen.  Bottom line, it was a thriller to watch!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 04, 2009, 01:38:19 pm
It was an exciting game, OHB, as you say. Lyndsie Long really carried the load for Elmhurst, scoring 33 via very good shooting (14/22 -- 3/5 threes, 2/4 FT) and grabbing 12 rebounds, doing some of the point guard dribbling, playing hard in all aspects. She was stopped only in the final EC possession, when Wheaton stuck Kathleen Fidelia on her and denied her the ball, when I’m sure she was to be the 1st option.
Fidelia (21 pts, 9 rebs, 4 steals, 6 assists) and Long both reinforced their status as first team all-conference stars, in my view.
Lisa Ballenger’s quick 10 pts (5/5 FG in 11:00) also helped Wheaton, as did a solid all-around game from Lindsey Brenneman.
It had to be a very disappointing loss for Elmhurst, although I didn’t observe the aftermath, as I made a dash and caught the 9:13 Metra.
Thunder Dutch, regarding an at-large bid for the Thunder, wait and see what happens in the CCIW tournament. Wheaton could end up having to beat Carthage and IWU in less than 24 hours there, which wouldn’t be easy.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 04, 2009, 01:47:55 pm
I'd say that Wheaton's chances would be better for the Pool A bid--winning the conference tournament--than for a pool C.  I haven't looked to be sure how many of their seven losses are in-region, but that's a lot for a pool C candidate. 

Thanks for the updates on the Elmhurst-Wheaton game.  Sounds like a good old-fashioned barn burner!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 04, 2009, 02:10:31 pm
I also include IWU's Christina Solari and Claire Sheehan on my current 1st team all-conference, with Fidelia and Long.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 04, 2009, 07:19:36 pm
More Tuesday results :
Carthage outscored Millikin 26-17 over the last nine minutes to win 66-57. It had been knotted at 40. Katie Jarger shot well for the Lady Reds, 5/7 FG and 4/4 FT. Millikin had just 3 offensive rebs. Kayla Pembrook did have 8 total rebounds for the Big Blue.
North Central recovered from its close loss to IWU Saturday by beating Augustana 72-62.
NC had a 39-18 lead late in the 1st half and a 43-25 lead later. Augie fought back and got the deficit to 3 at 61-58. But NC took over with a strong finish.
Jessica Davis led the Cardinals with 21 pts, mostly from making 5 of 9 threes.
Kristen Fox tallied 15 for Augustana.
NC’s Jackie Errico topped everyone with 11 rebounds, which raises her average to 7.9 in CCIW play, tied for #2 with teammate Meghan McGuire and W’s Annie Bowen. Christina Solari is at 9.6.
Brianne Parra missed a free throw and is now at .966 in CCIW play. Katie Jarger is at .926 and J Errico is at .913. All excellent.
North Park’s Larisa Coldebella tops the CCIW in 3 point pct at .444, just ahead of Carthage’s Dani Ripkey’s .429.
IWU’s Stacey Arlis leads the overall FG pct at a remarkable .727. C Solari is next at .677, also pretty darn good.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 04, 2009, 08:28:13 pm
I also include IWU's Christina Solari and Claire Sheehan on my current 1st team all-conference, with Fidelia and Long.

Just from stats, I'd agree with these four.  Whose your fifth?  (Despite 'mediocre' stats, I'd go with Mallory Heydorn, unless I'm overlooking someone.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 05, 2009, 11:37:26 am
If not Mallory, it might be Katie Jarger, a major part of Carthage's fine defense and an efficient, mistake-free offensive player.
Mallory and teammate Claire Sheehan may be the best 4 year backcourt pair in the history of the conference. Getting them together on the 1st team in their senior year would be nice.
Christina Solari is the best player in the CCIW to this point, so she must be 1st team, too. I don't know if Mia Smith can persuade the other coaches to vote three Titans to 1st team.
There will be excellent players on the 2nd team all-CCIW no matter who gets 1st team honors. Millikin's Tracie Yantis and Carthage's Carlie Janowiak could be found there.
Any number of players still have the opportunity to play extraordinarily well to finish the season, not to make all-conference, but to help their teams win more games (and hopefully have fun along the way).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 05, 2009, 06:40:23 pm
An article on IWU's Claire Sheehan from the Daily Herald...

http://basketball.dailyherald.com/story/?id=269733
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 05, 2009, 08:19:29 pm
Thanks, Bob!  Very nice story with good quotes from her and from Mia Smith.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 06, 2009, 07:58:52 am
Congratulations to Christina Solari and Claire Sheehan for being named to the college division all-District V academic squad on the ESPN: The Magazine Academic All-America national ballots. Christina is on the first team and Claire on the third team.  Well done, ladies!

Here is a link to a brief story on the IWU web site:

Solari, Sheehan earn Academic All-District Honors (http://www.iwu.edu/sports/)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 07, 2009, 05:31:53 pm
As I sit here in the Carthage library, having just seen the locals fall to Illinois Wesleyan, 62-46, my first reaction is: both sides played way too much defense.
I would've liked a 104-103 final myself.
It was a scrappy hard-fought contest, in which IWU opened up a bit of a lead some time in the 3rd quarter and Carthage couldn't dent it that much.
Christina Solari had 18 pts and 12 rebs to lead everyone. There were hardly any easy shots for either team, obviously due to unrelenting smart defense by both teams.
IWU again showed that it can win any sort of game, fast or slow, smooth or grinding.
Elmhurst tripped up Augustana 61-51 as Lyndsie Long scored 20. Meghan Merklein added 13.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 07, 2009, 05:48:25 pm
North Central beat Wheaton 71-64, thanks to Meghan McGuire's 15 pts and 6 rebs, as well as good play by teammates.
For Wheaton, K Fidelia had 19 pts, 5 steals and 9 rebs, while Whitney Edgecombe (7/11, 2/2) scored 16 in 20:00.
Millikin toppled North Park 77-44. Crystal Zeigler scored 18 (6/7, 6/8), Ricki Dorsett made 5 of 7 threes and finished with 17 pts. Tracie Yantis had 8 rebs and 4 assists. NP's Hilary Kuhl scored 11.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 09, 2009, 09:52:29 am
Here's a nice story about IWU's Hope Schulte from her hometown newspaper:
Hope Springs Eternal (http://www.thejournal-news.net/articles/2009/01/29/sports/more_sports/sports01.txt)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 09, 2009, 01:35:08 pm
Congratulations to Kayla Pembrook for making the academic all-district team, the same honor that was mentioned earlier for C Solari and C Sheehan. All three would be most welcome on any basketball roster, in addition to being excellent in the classroom.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 09, 2009, 02:10:35 pm
Lyndsie Long is the CCIW Player of the Week. Congratulations to her!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 11, 2009, 01:21:09 pm
IWU continued its perfect record, taking a 67-45 decision over Millikin.
Four Titans scored 11 or 13. Hope Schulte, C Solari and Mallory Heydorn combined for 10 steals and 14 assists.
Twenty-seven turnovers hampered Millikin.
The Big Blue are now even with Elmhurst and North Central at 5-5, tied for the last playoff spot. EC edged NC 58-55. Lyndsie Long led the Jays with 22 pts and 10 rebs. NC’s Brianne Parra had 18 pts, 10 rebs. Meghan McGuire blocked 5 shots.
Carthage topped North Park 67-49 to retain 3rd place.
Katie Jarger put together 16 pts, 9 rebs and 5 steals in 23:00. Lisa Gartelos scored 11 in 16:00. An even dozen Lady Reds scored 2 or more pts.
Heather Gilmore, as quick a defender as we have in the CCIW, had 4 steals in 16:00.
Amanda Phillips led NP with 15 pts, while LaRae Kostreva had 13, 9 rebs and 3 blocks.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 11, 2009, 01:44:20 pm
In the game I saw, Kelly Brooks scored 14 (4/5, 6/8) and grabbed 6 rebounds in 14:00 to help Wheaton (8-2, 2nd place) get past Augustana 73-52.
Wheaton was up 35-14 at the half and by 40-16 minutes into the 2nd. Then Augie’s senior guard Sarah Rachwalski proceeded to outscore the Thunder 11 to 5 over a three minute stretch, bringing the score to 45-27 and bringing her teammates to their feet.
From that point on, Wheaton maintained a 20 point-ish lead for the duration.
Lynnea Kvam had a nice game for Wheaton, scoring 13 and getting 4 steals.
Noelle Dryden contributed nicely with 5 rebounds and 3 assists in just 12:00. Her enthusiasm is always a big plus for the Thunder.
Sarah Jones had 8 pts, 4 rebs, 2 steals and a bad crash to the floor in her 16:00. It was quite worrying for a minute while she writhed in pain on the floor. It appears that her ribs were hurt, but she recovered and re-entered the game in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on February 11, 2009, 03:47:18 pm
A few items relating to the Elmhurst Bluejays.  Initially, congratulations to Lyndsie Long for being named CCIW Player of the Week and to senior Brittany Bobruk for passing the 1,000 point threshold this past Saturday at Augustana.  Brittany's contributions and team leadership will most certainly be missed on the Bluejay bench next year as she closes out a great career for the Jays!

Keeping with my comments of last week with respect to the parity in talent with regard to most CCIW teams this season, the North Central-Elmhurst game of last night once again shows how just a bounce here or there determines the outcome of many of these games.  Other than the IWU contest, the other four losses for the Jays have been by five points or less this season.

In addition to Lyndsie Long's 22 point/10 rebound performance against the Cardinals, the Jays continue to receive solid contributions from the freshman duo of Meghan Merklein (12 pts/3 rebs) and Megan Ney (8pts/4 rebs) who have moved into the starting line-up.  The two freshmen are playing significant minutes this season and continue to gain valuable game experience that will undoubtedly benefit the Jays next season as well. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 11, 2009, 07:04:27 pm
to Hoosier Titan and anyone else planning to see IWU at Olivet Nazarene on the 17th :
That game is listed as a 7:00 start now --- used to be 5:30.
It may not be quite as wild a game as earlier anticipated. ONU, in its last two games, apparently abandoned its trademark style of playing 13 players with frequent "line changes" and full-court pressing and scores in the 90s and 100s. Their last two finals were 73-62 and 82-60.
Only 8 players have been used. I don't know what happened with the five "missing" players, whether they're off the team or not.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 12, 2009, 12:43:57 pm
Rog,

Thanks for the heads-up on the ONU game and situation. If they are really down to eight players, I can see why they might have had to change their style.  Looks like they've lost a lot of firepower if those players really are gone.

The story of the IWU-Millikin game was the Titan defense.  IWU didn't shoot particularly well, but forcing 27 turnovers and getting 19 offensive rebounds made up for less-than-stellar shooting.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Darryl Nester on February 12, 2009, 05:07:16 pm
Pardon the intrusion to your board ... I've been working on a program I wrote a couple of years ago to analyze scenarios for the HCAC standings, trying to extend it so that it could do a similar analysis for any other conference.  The CCIW is my first official "guinea pig" conference in this regard.

The table at the end of this post lists--as a percentage of all possible outcomes for the remaining 15 games--the final seeding for each team.  These are not probabilities (unless you believe that each team has an equal likelihood of winning each game).

I assumed in making this table that your conference's tie-breaking procedure was the same as those of the HCAC (I was too lazy to investigate this myself).

TeamOverall  Home  Away  Remaining Games
Illinois Wesleyan11-05-06-0vs. WC, vs. NCC, @ EC
Wheaton (Ill.)8-23-25-0@ IWU, vs. MU, @ CC, vs. NPU
Carthage6-44-12-3@ NCC, vs. EC, vs. WC, @ AC
Elmhurst5-52-33-2vs. NPU, @ CC, @ MU, vs. IWU
Millikin5-52-33-2vs. AC, @ WC, vs. EC, @ NCC
North Central (Ill.)5-52-33-2vs. CC, @ NPU, @ IWU, vs. MU
Augustana1-101-50-5@ MU, @ NPU, vs. CC
North Park0-100-50-5@ EC, vs. NCC, vs. AC, @ WC

Team    #1  #2  #3  #4  #5  #6  #7  #8 
IWU
93.54%  6.46%  ------------
WC
6.46%  81.85%  10.09%  1.52%  0.08%  ------
CC
--8.64%  41.98%  26.24%  15.76%  7.38%  ----
MU
--0.79%  10.53%  26.45%  31.79%  30.44%  ----
EC
--0.37%  20.11%  22.60%  24.87%  32.05%  ----
NCC
--1.89%  17.30%  23.18%  27.50%  30.13%  ----
AC
------------64.04%  35.96% 
NPU
------------35.96%  64.04% 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 12, 2009, 05:18:54 pm
Welcome, Darryl,
Are you trying to make our brains hurt?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Darryl Nester on February 12, 2009, 05:39:02 pm
Welcome, Darryl,
Are you trying to make our brains hurt?

What?  Do you mean that not everyone is as geekishly enthralled by numbers as I am?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 12, 2009, 05:44:47 pm
Does your formula consider what the results of the first meetings of the remaining matchups were? Or does it just use home and road records?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Darryl Nester on February 12, 2009, 05:54:16 pm
The home/away records are solely there for information; they do not enter into the final table.  My program considers all possible outcomes for the remaining games, then breaks any ties using the process applied in the HCAC (which I assumed was similar to yours):

1) if two teams have the same record, break the tie based on head-to-head competition.
2) if the teams split their head-to-head matchups, compare performance against other teams in the conference, working from the top of the standings on down.

When three or more teams are tied, ties are broken in a similar way.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 13, 2009, 05:14:13 pm
On IWU's Stacey Arlis...

http://basketball.dailyherald.com/story/?id=271808
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 14, 2009, 06:18:08 pm
Illinois Wesleyan matched the intensity they have been showing on defense with their offense today to defeat Wheaton 101-57.  The Titans shot well from long, from the paint, from all over the court.  For the game they shot 56.7% overall, 43.8% on threes, and 73.7% from the line.  Mallory Heydorn had 14 points (4 3's), 8 assists and no turnovers, and 2 blocks in 26 minutes, while Christina Solari had 15 points on 7/10 shooting and 9 rebounds.  Off the bench, Stacey Arlis was perfect:  6/6 from the field and 4/4 from the line for 16 points in 17 minutes; Kylie Castans had 13 points and 5 rebounds in 12 minutes. 

Kathleen Fidelia led the Thunder with 18 points on 6/7 shooting.

With the win, the Titans clinched the CCIW Championship and will thus host the CCIW tournament in two weeks time. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 14, 2009, 06:33:12 pm
Congratulations to Mia Smith and the Titans for clinching the CCIW title!  What a season so far.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Darryl Nester on February 14, 2009, 06:33:41 pm
As Hoosier Titan noted, the #1 seed is set.  Here are the updated standings, and how the scenarios look for the other seeds:


TeamOverall  Home  Away  Remaining Games
Illinois Wesleyan12-06-06-0vs. NCC, @ EC
Wheaton (Ill.)8-33-25-1vs. MU, @ CC, vs. NPU
Carthage7-44-13-3vs. EC, vs. WC, @ AC
Elmhurst6-53-33-2@ CC, @ MU, vs. IWU
Millikin6-53-33-2@ WC, vs. EC, @ NCC
North Central (Ill.)5-62-43-2@ NPU, @ IWU, vs. MU
Augustana1-111-50-6@ NPU, vs. CC
North Park0-110-50-6vs. NCC, vs. AC, @ WC

Team    #1  #2  #3  #4  Tournament?
Illinois Wesleyan
100.00%------Yes
Wheaton (Ill.)
--75.00%20.41%4.49%99.90%
Carthage
--22.66%38.87%29.69%91.21%
Elmhurst
--1.56%27.15%22.92%51.63%
Millikin
--0.78%11.33%29.51%41.62%
North Central (Ill.)
----2.25%13.40%15.64%
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 15, 2009, 10:59:46 am
The game time for Illinois Wesleyan at Olivet Nazarene (NAIA DI), at Bourbonnais, is indeed 7:00 p.m. 

We wondered about the obvious change in ONU's lineup and style of play over the last couple of games.  Here's a story from the Daily Journal which sheds some light on the subject:
 Tigers move on following suspensions of four players  (http://daily-journal.com/archives/dj/display.php?id=435412&query=Olivet%20Nazarene%20women's%20basketball)

So the style of play will be considerably different from what one would have expected at the start of the season.  Still, a new opponent will be good for the Titans.  ONU hit 13 3's in their defeat of Purdue Calumet yesterday, so they still have players to be reckoned with.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 15, 2009, 01:38:53 pm
I'm sure the announcer at ONU is happy for the break! When they came to Wheaton, it was almost impossible to keep up with all the substitutions.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: deiscanton on February 17, 2009, 06:57:54 am
I just wanted to pop on and wish Illinois Wesleyan the best of luck tonight against Olivet Nazarene.    Even though this game will probably be a more traditional basketball game and not the Grinnell-style game that people were anticipating at the start of the season, this game will be very interesting.  I saw Olivet Nazarene's stats from the last 2 games when the Tigers were only playing 8 players, and their stats from 3 pt range would still set UAA records if the Tigers were playing as a UAA team.  (16 3's made by Olivet Nazarene last game would break NYU's record of 15 3's made in a UAA game set in 1997, and the average of 44.5 3 pt attempts taken by Olivet Nazarene in the last 2 games would easily break the UAA record of 31 attempts in a UAA women's game set by Case Western Reserve twice in UAA conf. games played last season.)

I want to check up on this game, but I see that no one is doing audio or videocasting of tonight's game to my knowledge.  Will there be anyone blogging this game or doing live stats so that I can check up on this game?  Thanks-- I'm sure that a lot of people around the country would appreciate it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 17, 2009, 07:30:36 am
Article on IWU's Claire Sheehan...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/02/17/usports/doc499a10e5ccbdf121761009.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 17, 2009, 07:33:16 am
I just wanted to pop on and wish Illinois Wesleyan the best of luck tonight against Olivet Nazarene.    Even though this game will probably be a more traditional basketball game and not the Grinnell-style game that people were anticipating at the start of the season, this game will be very interesting.  I saw Olivet Nazarene's stats from the last 2 games when the Tigers were only playing 8 players, and their stats from 3 pt range would still set UAA records if the Tigers were playing as a UAA team.  (16 3's made by Olivet Nazarene last game would break NYU's record of 15 3's made in a UAA game set in 1997, and the average of 44.5 3 pt attempts taken by Olivet Nazarene in the last 2 games would easily break the UAA record of 31 attempts in a UAA women's game set by Case Western Reserve twice in UAA conf. games played last season.)

I want to check up on this game, but I see that no one is doing audio or videocasting of tonight's game to my knowledge.  Will there be anyone blogging this game or doing live stats so that I can check up on this game?  Thanks-- I'm sure that a lot of people around the country would appreciate it.

ONU broadcasts all men's games on Shine FM...

http://www.shine.fm/

Not sure if they do the women's games as well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: deiscanton on February 17, 2009, 11:01:48 am
I just wanted to pop on and wish Illinois Wesleyan the best of luck tonight against Olivet Nazarene.    Even though this game will probably be a more traditional basketball game and not the Grinnell-style game that people were anticipating at the start of the season, this game will be very interesting.  I saw Olivet Nazarene's stats from the last 2 games when the Tigers were only playing 8 players, and their stats from 3 pt range would still set UAA records if the Tigers were playing as a UAA team.  (16 3's made by Olivet Nazarene last game would break NYU's record of 15 3's made in a UAA game set in 1997, and the average of 44.5 3 pt attempts taken by Olivet Nazarene in the last 2 games would easily break the UAA record of 31 attempts in a UAA women's game set by Case Western Reserve twice in UAA conf. games played last season.)

I want to check up on this game, but I see that no one is doing audio or videocasting of tonight's game to my knowledge.  Will there be anyone blogging this game or doing live stats so that I can check up on this game?  Thanks-- I'm sure that a lot of people around the country would appreciate it.

ONU broadcasts all men's games on Shine FM...

http://www.shine.fm/

Not sure if they do the women's games as well.

I called Gary Newsome this morning.  He is the athletic director at Olivet Nazarene.  Unfortunately, Shine FM does not do the women's basketball games.  Olivet Nazarene tried to do videocasting of their home athletic events this year, but they had a lot of technical difficulties setting up the equipment and getting out a clear video stream, so they will try again next year to have all of their home sporting events video streamed.

Somebody at the game is going to have to blog about it, as the website for Olivet Nazarene does not do live stats.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 17, 2009, 11:15:14 am
I will be at the game.  Anyone who wants an update send me a PM before 12:30 Central to arrange contact info.  I can text or call and will post when we get back to Bloomington from Bourbonnais.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 17, 2009, 11:40:14 am
A little late with my Saturday report :
I saw Carthage top North Central, 67-54. Early on, both teams turned it over quite a bit. The Lady Reds got a helpful boost from a 4-point play by Katie Klemke.
Heather Gilmore made 2 of 3 threes, on her way to a team high 13 pts. Both teams usually tried to work the ball into the low post, which ate up the shot clock on many possessions. Lisa Gartelos scored 10 in 14:00 and also hosted a post-game dinner for the team in nearby Lisle (this I learned from her dad, who is a very pleasant fellow, by the way.. I've had several nice conversations with him and note that, while naturally a Carthage partisan, he appreciates the efforts of good players on all teams, which coincides with my perspective).
It was a frustrating loss for NC, but they still have a shot at the last CCIW playoff spot.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 17, 2009, 01:26:10 pm
My congratulations, too, to IWU on clinching 1st place in the conference.
Millikin and Elmhurst won must-win games over Augie and North Park.
Kayla Pembrook had a sharp performance for Millikin, going 7/9 (5/6 threes), 3/4 FT, for 22 pts plus five rebounds and five assists.
Lyndsie Long (CCIW Player of the Week, twice in a row) tallied 17 and grabbed 11 rebs, while teammate Kelsey Monroe had 10 pts and 12 assists in 22:00. NP's LaRae Kostreva blocked 8 shots.
We have an interesting sprint to the finish line for the conference playoff positions. Good luck to all.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: deiscanton on February 17, 2009, 09:56:10 pm
I just got the final score on a text message from Hoosier Titan--

Illinois Wesleyan 87, Olivet Nazarene 66

Thanks to Hoosier Titan for the update.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 17, 2009, 10:19:37 pm
Wheaton led 47-28 at the half, but Millikin outscored them 36-16 over most of the second.  Wheaton eventually prevailed, 72-70, despite what must be Fidelia's worst game of the season: 2-13 from the field, 2-5 from the line, more TOs than assists, and an efficiency score of -2.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 17, 2009, 11:46:44 pm
The IWU-Olivet Nazarene was closer than the 87-66 score would indicate for much of the game.  Although IWU never trailed, the lead was 38-34 at halftime.  The goal of the Titans was a fast-paced game, and they were not initially effective at this.  They have rarely missed so many point-blank and wide-open shots!  This was the first game I can remember seeing where neither team took a single shot during halftime; each team returned to the floor with under a minute to go and they simply resumed play.  Whatever Mia Smith said in the locker room was effective, as the Titans slowly built the lead in the second half.  They won the second half 49-32.

Six Titans scored in double figures, with this game's super sub Nikki Preston leading the way with 18 points and 9 rebounds.  Hope Schulte and Kylie Castans each had 14, Stacey Arlis had 11, and Colleen Caplice and Christina Solari each had 10.  Mallory Heydorn had 5 assists and Holly Harvey 4; the Titans had 19 steals and forced the Tigers into 33 turnovers.

This game was probably a good experience overall for the Titans.  They saw a new opponent and were tested; the defense seemed to focus on Solari and Sheehan, so the Titans found other weapons. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 18, 2009, 03:26:07 pm
Adding a little to Hoosier Titan's summary, I thought it was an entertaining contest and another example of IWU's ability to prevail in any sort of game.
ONU played a very active half-court defense in the 1st half, trying to double-team the ball wherever it went. This took a lot of energy and probably wasn't sustainable over 40:00 by just eight players.
Mia Smith certainly implemented some effective revisions for the 2nd half, too. Colleen Caplice made some key 11 or 12 ft jumpers, exploiting a hole in the ONU defense. ONU clogged up the area right under the basket, taking away lay-up opportunities. IWU had lots of open threes and normally will make more than 7 of 36. They hit 28 of 54 two's and won comfortably.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 18, 2009, 07:09:00 pm
With North Central winning last night and Millikin and Elmhurst losing, a three-way tie exists among them, with the final Saturday and Tuesday games awaiting.
Meghan McGuire (a candidate for 2nd team all CCIW?) scored 19 for NC, while Jackie Errico and Mallory Carlini each took in 11 rebounds during their win over North Park. The Vikings' Danielle Bradley missed just one shot while scoring 16 pts.
Carthage's defense held Elmhurst to .259 FG shooting. At the other end, Lisa Gartelos shot 75% FG (9/12) and 4/4 FT for 22 pts in 20:00. The Lady Reds moved the ball around well, committing only 9 turnovers.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 20, 2009, 08:28:45 pm
Illinois Wesleyan has a JV v. alums game scheduled for 11:30 tomorrow (varsity Senior Day is at 2:00 v. North Central).  Word is that the concession stand is offering hot dogs and popcorn to IWU students with ID for $1.00 each item.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 21, 2009, 06:54:32 pm
IWU 78
North Central 40

http://www.iwusports.com/custompages/WBB/WBB2009/IWUWB24.HTM

* Mallory Heydorn: 20 pts (4-7 3-pt)
* Christina Solari: 14 pts, 8 reb

- Rebounds: IWU 48 NCC 31
- NCC: 8 assists, 24 turnovers

IWU moves to 24-0, 13-0 in the CCIW.  The Titans play @ Elmhurst Tuesday to finish the league season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 21, 2009, 08:10:32 pm
The rest of the league made for exciting games today.
Meghan Merklein hit the game winner for Elmhurst as the Jays edged Millikin 68-67. Brittany Bobruk grabbed 11 rebounds for EC and Lyndsie Long scored 25 pts. M's Tracie Yantis had a fine game: 20 pts, 6 reb, 4 assists, 3 steals.
I watched North Park's three seniors enjoy a win on Senior Day; they topped Augie 51-46.
Amanda Phillips led with 16 pts. Stylianee Damianides made key free throws in the waning minutes to preserve the lead and LaRae Kostreva rung up 15 pts, 11 rebs, 4 assists and 3 blocks. Contributions from more youthful North Parkers included 5 steals by Larisa Coldebella and 8 defensive rebounds by Danielle Bradley.
Wheaton beat Carthage 69-63 in OT. Kathleen Fidelia tallied 19 and fellow Thunderites Laura Karsten and Jamie Jones put in 15 each.
Katie Jarger scored 21 for the Lady Reds while Carlie Janowiak seized a dozen rebounds.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mactitan on February 21, 2009, 11:36:08 pm
At the Shirk Center today, I had a few observations:
1. This was by far the most people I have ever seen at an IWU women's basketball game.  It will be interesting to see what kind of turnout they get for the CCIW tournament and NCAA opening round games.  They might top 1000 for the first time in school history.
2. At halftime the IWU lead was 9, and an IWU fan behind me commented, "It was a  low-scoring first half, I don't like that." To open the second half.  On the first possession the Titans hit a three.  Then they had a steal and a fast break bucket, then a rebound and FAST outlet for another bucket.  Timeout NCC, the lead is 16, and the game was pretty much over.
3. IWU's full-court press forced a lot of turnovers, and even when they didn't get a steal, NCC seemed out of sorts on offense, and rarely got good looks at the basket. They shot 27% from the field in the second half.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mactitan on February 21, 2009, 11:38:45 pm
I am a stat guy - and I noticed something pretty amazing about Christina Solari.  She is leading the Titans in scoring, rebounds, assists, steals, and field goal percentage.  She averages 14 points, 10 rebounds and about 3 assists and 2 steals a game.  Those are great numbers.  Then consider she averages 28 minutes a game because of the number of blow-outs, and those numbers are even more impressive.

IWU is No. 2 in the nation in scoring margin.  Solari is No. 4 in the nation in Field Goal percentage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 21, 2009, 11:47:05 pm
I am a stat guy - and I noticed something pretty amazing about Christina Solari.  She is leading the Titans in scoring, rebounds, assists, steals, and field goal percentage.  She averages 14 points, 10 rebounds and about 3 assists and 2 steals a game.  Those are great numbers.  Then consider she averages 28 minutes a game because of the number of blow-outs, and those numbers are even more impressive.

IWU is No. 2 in the nation in scoring margin.  Solari is No. 4 in the nation in Field Goal percentage.


And when you also add in the team being unanimously #1 in the country, I'd say Solari is a lock for first team AA, and perhaps the leader for national POY.

Since (IMO) Kent Raymond is the clear leader for men's national POY, what a coup for the CCIW if they could sweep both awards. :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on February 21, 2009, 11:52:39 pm
Stat guy, you are most right about Christina Solari -- what incredible, solid, all-round numbers on relatively limited minutes, mostly under 30 minutes per game.  With the Titans going for the perfect season now, I just don't see any one else who could be considered the conference Most Outstanding Player than Christina.  Congrats to all the Titans and coaching staff for the incredible run they've had this season.  Let's go futher . . .
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 22, 2009, 01:34:07 am
If not Mallory, it might be Katie Jarger, a major part of Carthage's fine defense and an efficient, mistake-free offensive player.
Mallory and teammate Claire Sheehan may be the best 4 year backcourt pair in the history of the conference. Getting them together on the 1st team in their senior year would be nice.
Christina Solari is the best player in the CCIW to this point, so she must be 1st team, too. I don't know if Mia Smith can persuade the other coaches to vote three Titans to 1st team.
There will be excellent players on the 2nd team all-CCIW no matter who gets 1st team honors. Millikin's Tracie Yantis and Carthage's Carlie Janowiak could be found there.
Any number of players still have the opportunity to play extraordinarily well to finish the season, not to make all-conference, but to help their teams win more games (and hopefully have fun along the way).

I think it is now almost a done deal that the first team will be Solari, Sheehan, Heydorn, Long, and Fidelia (NOT necessarily in rank order).  When a team has been as dominant as IWU this year, how could coaches be petty enough to deny a third spot?  (I'd be almost tempted to say just put the starting line-up as the first team - and I'd say that for a rival who was that dominant also - but that would be clearly unfair to Lyndsie Long and Kathleen Fidelia.)

I'd love it if Kent Raymond and Christina Solari swept the national POY honors - and I think it is a definite possibility. :)

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 22, 2009, 10:51:54 am
Great to see the increased number of posts here! 

The stats underscore the impression one gets watching Christina Solari play:  she is probably the most complete player I have ever seen at any level.  (She's right in there with Larry Bird).  She can lead the fast break, she passes as well as a guard, she rebounds at both ends, and she defends even considerably taller players extremely well.  She was unfairly overlooked for the all-CCIW teams last year (probably out of a desire to include IWU's seniors on those teams last year).  And because she lost her first year to an ACL injury, she is only in her second full year of collegiate competition!  So, yes, Solari for MOP, for Player of the Year...once the season is over.  There's a lot to be done yet.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 22, 2009, 11:10:42 am
At halftime of yesterday's IWU-North Central game, it looked, from an IWU perspective, as though the Titans were playing great defense and not making easy shots.  The 27-18 score seemed to back that up.  A look at the broadcast, though, showed that both teams played pretty good defense in that half.  The Cardinals were successful in making the Titans rush their shots or settle for lower percentage ones.  North Central was handicapped by the absence of Brianne Parra due to a shoulder injury; adding her usual scoring would have made the game nearly even at halftime. 

After the break, the Titans picked up the offense, pushing the lead from 9 to 22 within five minutes on a three by Claire Sheehan, two 3's and two layups by Mallory Heydorn, and another layup by Hope Schulte.  As Mia Smith said, they were sprinting rather than running, and it gave them open looks.  With the depth of the IWU bench, the Cardinals were unable to keep up.  Heydorn is definitely back from that stress fracture injury.

Meghan McGuire was the most consistent scorer for the Cardinals on 7/10 shooting.  When she gets the ball on the block she is very difficult to stop.

Titan subs Kylie Castans, Stacey Arlis, Nikki Preston, and Holly Harvey have all been key players at times, and they all made contributions.  It's also good to see sophomore Sarah Cotner (who lost last season to an ACL injury) steadily becoming more confident and playing important minutes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 22, 2009, 12:58:33 pm
And because she lost her first year to an ACL injury, she is only in her second full year of collegiate competition! 

Solari only played 3 games before getting injured her freshman season.  I don't know anything about Christina personally (major, post-college plans, etc), but is there any chance she will pursue a medical redshirt for that first year at IWU?  (In other words, making her just a sophomore now?)  Believe me, I say that knowing how hard that is to pull off financially, so I'm sure it is not likely...but I'm curious.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 22, 2009, 01:12:47 pm
And because she lost her first year to an ACL injury, she is only in her second full year of collegiate competition! 

Solari only played 3 games before getting injured her freshman season.  I don't know anything about Christina personally (major, post-college plans, etc), but is there any chance she will pursue a medical redshirt for that first year at IWU?  (In other words, making her just a sophomore now?)  Believe me, I say that knowing how hard that is to pull off financially, so I'm sure it is not likely...but I'm curious.

It's been a major topic in conversation behind the Titan bench at games, believe me!  I don't have any direct answer to those questions--I haven't asked. 

If she did come back for another year, she could play with younger sister Karen for one more year...but that fact might suggest a reason why she might NOT come back (I write this as my youngest daughter prepares for college, with her sister still a junior).

If it would help, I think Titan fans would be prepared to take up a collection, hold bake sales, whatever...to keep Christina Solari for another year. :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jshoops on February 22, 2009, 09:39:40 pm
I've had the pleasure of watching Christina and Karen Solari for the past 6 years.  They are unselfish team players that work hard at their game.   They are terrific people off the court too,  benefitting from their two wonderful parents.  Christina has a 3.81 grade point average  on top of basketball career (Sheehan, Solari Earn Academic All-District Honors).  Simply amazing!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 22, 2009, 11:32:02 pm
I think I've got the tiebreaker situation figured out for the fourth spot in the conference tournament; perhaps someone can confirm or correct.

Right now Elmhurst is alone in fourth at 7-6 while Millikin and North Central are tied at 6-7.  On Tuesday IWU goes to Elmhurst, while Millikin goes to North Central. 

If Elmhurst beats IWU, they will be at 8-6 and will be in the tournament.

If IWU beats Elmhurst and Millikin beats North Central, Elmhurst and Millikin will both be at 7-7.  Elmhurst holds the tiebreaker:  both they and Millikin were swept by CCIW #1 IWU and #2 Wheaton.  But Elmhurst split with #3 Carthage, while Millkin were swept by them.  Thus Elmhurst would be in the tournament.

If IWU beats Elmhurst and North Central beats Millikin, both Elmhurst and North Central will be at 7-7.  Here, North Central holds the tiebreaker:  Both were swept by IWU, but North Central beat Wheaton.  Thus, North Central would be in the tournament.

So, I don't see any way Millikin makes the tournament.  And, if IWU holds on for the school record (25-0) and beats Elmhurst, the last spot is North Central's to win.

Have I got this right?  Thanks!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 23, 2009, 12:17:58 am
I think I've got the tiebreaker situation figured out for the fourth spot in the conference tournament; perhaps someone can confirm or correct.

Right now Elmhurst is alone in fourth at 7-6 while Millikin and North Central are tied at 6-7.  On Tuesday IWU goes to Elmhurst, while Millikin goes to North Central. 

If Elmhurst beats IWU, they will be at 8-6 and will be in the tournament.

If IWU beats Elmhurst and Millikin beats North Central, Elmhurst and Millikin will both be at 7-7.  Elmhurst holds the tiebreaker:  both they and Millikin were swept by CCIW #1 IWU and #2 Wheaton.  But Elmhurst split with #3 Carthage, while Millkin were swept by them.  Thus Elmhurst would be in the tournament.

If IWU beats Elmhurst and North Central beats Millikin, both Elmhurst and North Central will be at 7-7.  Here, North Central holds the tiebreaker:  Both were swept by IWU, but North Central beat Wheaton.  Thus, North Central would be in the tournament.

So, I don't see any way Millikin makes the tournament.  And, if IWU holds on for the school record (25-0) and beats Elmhurst, the last spot is North Central's to win.

Have I got this right?  Thanks!

Looks right to me.

Re: the bolded line - I'm reasonably sure that would also be a conference record.  Only Augustana (16-0 in 1991) and Millikin (14-0 in 1998) have ever emerged unscathed from the conference battles; while I could not find records on CCIW, Augie, or Millikin websites, I doubt either of them was undefeated for the entire regular season.  Our next goal (well, after a conference tourney title) is to get the CCIW's second national title! ;)

[NOT counting chickens before they hatch, but IF IWU makes it to the Final Four I will try my darnedest to make it to Holland - would I see anyone there?]
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 23, 2009, 07:29:19 am
Well, you're right, it is very premature.  Lots of basketball yet--going 25-0, the CCIW tournament, and the first and second rounds.  The second round, if not the first, of the NCAAs in the Central division could be a Final Four with all the great teams in this division--the WIAC teams, Wash. U., DePauw, just to name a few, along with IWU.

But IF the Titans make it you can be assured that at least this regular will be there :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 23, 2009, 05:48:53 pm
HT, just saw the announcement posted by David Collinge in the multi-region board: the next two years you won't have to travel to the Final Four - they're coming to Shirk! ;D

A shame it's a year too late for Heydorn, Sheehan, and Caplice. :(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 23, 2009, 07:36:36 pm
Mr. Ypsi and DC--my apologies, but I had to go to the NCAA site to be sure you weren't pulling my leg!

I saw this as I was leaving work and ran into one of the JV players.  She was as gobsmacked as I was! 

More later.  VERY exciting.  And I'm scheduled to be on sabbatical next year! :(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 24, 2009, 01:01:00 pm
Congratulations to IWU's Claire Sheehan for being named a Jostens Trophy finalist! A biology major with a 3.72 GPA, Claire was accepted at all five dental schools to which she applied.  She gave a great welcome talk to prospective IWU students last Saturday. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on February 24, 2009, 02:11:55 pm
HT, just saw the announcement posted by David Collinge in the multi-region board: the next two years you won't have to travel to the Final Four - they're coming to Shirk! ;D

A shame it's a year too late for Heydorn, Sheehan, and Caplice. :(
Yes, Q posted the info on the Men's site - from the NCAA website:

"The committee also approved several sites for Division III championships scheduled during 2009-10 and 2010-11. It approved:

• Illinois Wesleyan as host of the 2010 and 2011 Division III Women’s Basketball Championships, to be played at the Shirk Center in Bloomington, Illinois."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 24, 2009, 09:46:35 pm
IWU trying to come back from 20-down in the 2nd half at Elmhurst...

http://elmhurst.edu/~athletic/Home/W-Basket/stats/live/xlive.htm
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 24, 2009, 10:10:55 pm
Final:

Illinois Wesleyan 81
Elmhurst 75

IWU trailed 52-32 with 15:26 to play @ Elmhurst.  What a comeback.  The Titans forced 33 turnovers, and the number of those in the final 15 minutes of the game has to be crazy.  The word "turnover" showed up over and over again in the live stats as the Titans made the comeback.

25-0/14-0.  What an incredibly special season for Mia Smith and the Titans.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on February 24, 2009, 10:29:37 pm
Congrats to the Titans, to all the players and coaches, on a perfect season, 25-0, 14-0.  Amazing comeback.  More to go . . . . . . . .
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 25, 2009, 01:44:04 am
Wow.  Just wow.  One of those games that has you saying "Why did I come here?" in the first half and then reminds you why you came. 

Just about everything that could have gone wrong for the Titans did in the first half.  They played poorly on both ends of the court--and, as usual when a good team plays poorly, the other team had a LOT to do with that.  Elmhurst were on fire, hustling all over the court, moving well without the ball, and shooting lights out.  The 38-24 score at halftime was just about right.

Usually the Titans are successful at making changes at halftime, but things continued on the same course for the next five minutes or so as the Bluejay lead extended to 20 points.     Mia Smith had tried several different defensive looks against the Bluejays, but at around the 16:00 mark or so Titan reserves Holly Harvey and Nikki Preston came in and the team applied full-court pressure with the intensity we'd seen in recent games (but not yet tonight).  The results were dramatic and immediate.  The Bluejays committed 18 turnovers in the second half and were in danger of watching IWU sprint into the distance.  I've been looking at "OWP" and "OOWP" so much during the last few days that I found myself thinking "OOG"--Elmhurst must be Out of Gas.  But...Lindsie Long had been benched for most of the first half after picking up a couple of quick fouls; she had plenty left in the tank and threw in three 3-pointers (at least one from NBA range) to keep the Bluejays in the game to the end.  Her last 3 came right at the buzzer.  It's hard to say that the game "wasn't that close" or "should have been closer."  It was what it was, and every play counted.

Lots and lots of heroics on both sides, and too many heroes (heroines, I guess) to mention.  When Elmhurst came to Bloomington a few weeks ago the game was one-sided, and I could easily believe that many of the Bluejays were under the weather physically--I've seen them play well too often before. Tonight they played superbly, with poise, determination, and above all, a good game plan which they stuck to for the most part.   Long was terrific, scoring 27 in 24 minutes, along with 6 rebounds and 4 assists.  Meghan Merklein went 9/11 and 4/4 from the line, along with 12 rebounds.  Claire Gentry dished out 8 assists and had 4 steals. 

The Titan effort was also well  balanced.    Post players Christina Solari and Stacey Arlis each had 16 points; Solari also contributed 14 rebounds, 6 assists, and 5 steals.  Claire Sheehan had 14 points and Mallory Heydorn 13; each had 4 assists.  Hope Schulte had 10 points and 6 steals.  The Titan bench outscored the Bluejay bench 23-6, and the depth of the Titans enabled them to keep up the pressure in the second half for the comeback.  This was a true team victory.

After the game, the announcer came on to give scores almost right away, and it was shocking to hear that North Central had defeated Millikin.  One really had to feel for the Elmhurst team:  they needed either to win this game or to have NC lose, and within seconds they learned that both possibilities were gone.  This IWU fan felt great respect for the effort both teams put forth tonight, felt sympathy for the Bluejays, and was grateful to have been in attendance.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 25, 2009, 11:37:02 am
Some sort of flu kept me away from the gyms last night and will likely stop me from going to Bloomington this weekend.
Congrats to Wheaton's Jamie Jones on being CCIW player of the week and to IWU, of course, for going 14-0 in the conference.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WWWRHH on February 25, 2009, 11:45:51 am
I hope you will excuse an intrusion by a MIAA / Hope poster on your board in followup to a side conversation I had with Mr. Ypsi on the MIAA thread.

Elmhurst's challenge to the Titans, Hope's close call with Calvin on Saturday and the spirited effort that #8 seed Olivet put up against the Dutch last night show that no one with the slimest shot at an AQ is rolling over.  It makes for good basketball and would be a lot of fun if we did not live and die with "our" team.

But a stiff challenge is good preparation for what is to come.

If past experience is any guide some of the top ranked teams will face more difficult challenges in in their conference tourneys than they will in the early rounds of the NCAAs.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 25, 2009, 01:49:23 pm
Amber Cibrario had a fine game for North Central in their 29 pt win. She scored 17 on just 11 shots, had 3 assists and only 1 turnover. Without listing their entire roster, it looks from the stats that everyone made significant contributions. Millikin had a crummy shooting night, .286 from the field and .533 at the line.
Carthage post players Lisa Gartelos and Katherine Burshiem combined for 27 pts and 13 rebs in their win at Augie. Kristen Fox led Augie with 14.
Wheaton had 13 players play at least 11:00 and they scooted past North Park 88-64. Twelve of the 13 scored points; Noelle Dryden steadfastly refused to shoot.
NP's LaRae Kostreva scored 25, had 11 rebs, 6 blocks. Stylianee Damianides played 38:00 and topped the league with 438 minutes in 14 CCIW games. Hopefully, she can rest for a bit now.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 26, 2009, 04:59:00 pm
Does anyone know what happened to the Men's CCIW board?

Not sure what you mean, mac.  It's still there.  It was renamed "MBB:  College Conference of..." a few weeks ago.  Is anything else amiss?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 26, 2009, 05:34:18 pm
The comprehensive Tournament Program can be accessed via http://www.cciw.org/winter_bball_w/2009wbbtourneypage.php and is full of interesting data.
On odd numbered pages 7 through 21, one can see "conference-only" stats, which may or may not relevant for consideration of all-conference candidates. I suspect that coaches want to thank players for the full 25 game season, so looking at conference-only stats may be academic.
Some of our readers may find it interesting anyway.
The all-conference team should be announced tomorrow, I guess. As always, there will not be enough room for every player worthy of inclusion.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 27, 2009, 01:38:49 pm
Live video from the Shirk Center for any game IWU plays in at the CCIW tournament...

http://www.iwusports.com/sports/2009/2/15/WBB_0215090326.aspx?id=76
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 27, 2009, 02:52:04 pm
All-Conference Teams are up here  (http://www.cciw.org/winter_bball_w/08_09_WBBallconf.htm).

Congratulations to the teams and to:

Christina Solari, IWU, Most Outstanding Player

Mia Smith, IWU, Coach of the Year
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on February 27, 2009, 03:31:31 pm
My applause, too, for Mia Smith, Christina Solari and all the rest of the all-CCIW team.
Two things surprised me :
(1) that Claire Sheehan wasn't unanimous 1st team... what the heck else was she supposed to do this year?
(2) that Kayla Pembrook is a senior --- for some reason, I've been thinking she's a junior. I'm disappointed that we won't get to see this energetic and talented player again in '09-'10.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 27, 2009, 03:50:34 pm
My applause, too, for Mia Smith, Christina Solari and all the rest of the all-CCIW team.
Two things surprised me :
(1) that Claire Sheehan wasn't unanimous 1st team... what the heck else was she supposed to do this year?
(2) that Kayla Pembrook is a senior --- for some reason, I've been thinking she's a junior. I'm disappointed that we won't get to see this energetic and talented player again in '09-'10.

Agreed.  She can take comfort that in 2006, when both were first-team AAs, Adam Dauksas and Keelan Amelianovic were not unanimous CCIW first-teamers either! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on February 27, 2009, 08:34:06 pm
Carthage over Wheaton in CCIW women's semis in Bloomington.  Titans up next.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on February 27, 2009, 08:35:54 pm
My congrats, too, for Christina Solari, Coach Smith and the four Titans who made the All-conference team/honors.  Great stuff.  Well deserved.   A perfectly dominating regular season. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on February 27, 2009, 10:50:39 pm
Titans over NCC -- so Titans vs. Carthage for CCIW Tourney title and DIII tourney bid tomorrow, Sunday, at 2 p.m.  Great balance, good rebounding, strong bench play by the Titans again tonight -- what they have been doing all year.  Keep it rolling . . .

With the CCIW Track Championships at Shirk, too, it must be a jumping place right now. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 28, 2009, 09:21:01 am
Here is a nice local news video on some work IWU is doing with an elementary school in town...

http://centralillinoisproud.com/content/fulltext/?cid=47652

Mia Smith has a really impressive group of young women on her squad.  On and off the court, they have really made everyone associated with the school very proud
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 28, 2009, 03:34:27 pm
IWU up 35-25 at the half.  Game was very tight until the Titans got the last 6 points of the half.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on February 28, 2009, 03:35:09 pm
IWU up 35-25 at the half.  Game was very tight until the Titans got the last 6 points of the half.
Titans lucky Carthage 0-7 from 3 pt land; Rosie Dorn coming off Carthage bench keeping Carthage in this game 11 pts in 12 minutes
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on February 28, 2009, 04:34:25 pm
IWU 75 Carthage 55 Final

Congratulations Titans - 3rd straight CCIW Title, NCAA Tournament and indefeated in regular season play!  A great accomplishment.  Now go win it all!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 28, 2009, 04:39:54 pm
Final: IWU 75, Carthage 55.  The Lady Reds refused to ever completely go away, but the margin was double digits throughout the second half.

Christina Solari had a very quiet first half, but dominated in the second, finishing with 18 points.  Claire Sheehan had 14 (12 in the first half).  Mallory Heydorn had another of her down days, something like 2-12 from the field and only about 4 points until some fts at the end.  Stacey Arlis had 13 off the bench.

Rosie Dorn had 17 for Carthage, and Lisa Gartelos chipped in 13.

Congratulations to IWU - 27-0 and both regular-season and tourney titles!  One more title to go!! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on February 28, 2009, 04:41:34 pm
Final: IWU 75, Carthage 55.  The Lady Reds refused to ever completely go away, but the margin was double digits throughout the second half.

Christina Solari had a very quiet first half, but dominated in the second, finishing with 18 points.  Claire Sheehan had 14 (12 in the first half).  Mallory Heydorn had another of her down days, something like 2-12 from the field and only about 4 points until some fts at the end.  Stacey Arlis had 13 off the bench.

Rosie Dorn had 17 for Carthage, and Lisa Gartelos chipped in 13.

Congratulations to IWU - 27-0 and both regular-season and tourney titles!  One more title to go!! ;)
Bench really contributed ; IWU played much better in the paint in 2nd half
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: petemcb on February 28, 2009, 04:44:37 pm
Congrats to the Lady Titans for their win today and on a great season.  Congrats also to the broadcasting team that made it possible and enjoyable to watch the game online.  Nice job to all.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: petemcb on February 28, 2009, 04:45:15 pm
It sounds like IWU will be hosting at least 2 games in the national tournament, maybe more.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: petemcb on February 28, 2009, 04:46:02 pm
Any speculation on other CCIW teams that might make it into the tournament?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on February 28, 2009, 05:00:09 pm
Any speculation on other CCIW teams that might make it into the tournament?

I don't think any are regarded as viable candidates, but the coverage is much less here than for the men's Pool C.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 28, 2009, 07:07:48 pm
Any speculation on other CCIW teams that might make it into the tournament?

Absolutely no chance for anyone else in the CCIW.  The six teams in the NCAA's regional rankings last week were IWU, Wash U, three WIAC schools, and St. Norbert's.  Only a few (2 or so) pool C bids will go out to schools beyond the members of that group who need them (Whitewater and Eau Claire).  There are some other conferences with automatic bids to be included as well.  All the other CCIW teams have too many in-region losses for consideration.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on February 28, 2009, 07:37:06 pm
It was a tough contest today at Shirk; the 75-55 final margin looks deceptively one-sided and that was the largest lead of the game due to Holly Harvey's three right before the final buzzer.  Both teams went for the inside game, with Christina Solari scoring 18 and Stacey Arlis 13 for the Titans, Lisa Gartelos adding 13 for Carthage, and Rosie Dorn, off the bench, leading the Reds with 17.  Most of Dorn's points came on drives and points in transition.  She played a fine game.

The halftime margin was ten, and the Reds hung around.   The Titans shot 47% from the field and had 34 points in the paint.  Others who contributed were Claire Sheehan with 14 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, and a steal, and Mallory Heydorn, with 9 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, and 2 steals.  It's not at all accurate or fair to call this a "down day" for Mallory--she contributes a great deal to the flow of the Titan game at both ends of the court even when the shots aren't dropping.  Nikki Preston seemed to have a target on her jersey today--she was called for five fouls in just 8 minutes of play and then was reprimanded for leaving the court without being given permission to do so, something I wasn't even aware was in the rule book.  From where I sat it looked as if might she have committed one or two fouls at most--but that's a small matter.

On to the NCAAs for the Titans!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 01, 2009, 01:08:23 pm
Best of luck to the Titans and congratulations for their wonderful achievements so far.
Also, best of luck to all the seniors from around the league whose careers ended during the past week. THANKS for playing! Health and happiness to all.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 02, 2009, 08:51:14 pm
Hoosier Titan, my apology if 'down day' sounded harsh for Mallory - I should have specified 'down shooting day'.  I watched the game on my 17" monitor, but if there was any way to enlarge the picture, alas, I never figured it out - so I watched on about a 3x4" screen!  I had a tough time figuring who was doing what - it was more like 'ant bball'! :(

IWU begins with what will hopefully be just a tune-up (though I'm confident Mia Smith will not allow the players to think that way!) - 17-11 OWU.  But second round they face either a rematch with DePauw or UWEC - both make me quite nervous.

Assuming (!) they make it to the sectional (dare we hope to host that also?), the 3rd game seems likely to be UWSP.  Surviving that, we would then likely face yet another WIAC team, a rematch of last year's loss to UWW, or have a rematch with Wash U, or face defending champ HPU.  Whew!

And IF we make it to Holland, and survive the semi (don't see anyone in that bracket that particularly scares me, but I'm far less familiar with the women than the men), my guess is we get Hope on their home court for the title!

Truly, a title (if won) would be well-earned!  And if IWU makes it to Holland, so will I!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 02, 2009, 09:49:16 pm
Yes, I just tried watching the archived streaming video.  We usually have TV broadcasts here, but they asked a lot more for the tournament games and didn't get sponsorship, so we are reduced to watching "ant ball" too.  Mallory didn't have a high shooting percentage, but she is moving so well now that she always attracts defenders--and she passes off well, too.

It definitely is a mine field all the way to Michigan.  I'm sure that no one is looking too far ahead, though.  I talked to one of the key players today; they seem very calm and poised. 

And IF IWU makes it to Holland, I will be just recovering from having my wisdom teeth out!  It will be a great inspiration.  One game at a time!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 03, 2009, 10:17:16 pm
I think I've got the tiebreaker situation figured out for the fourth spot in the conference tournament; perhaps someone can confirm or correct.

Right now Elmhurst is alone in fourth at 7-6 while Millikin and North Central are tied at 6-7.  On Tuesday IWU goes to Elmhurst, while Millikin goes to North Central. 

If Elmhurst beats IWU, they will be at 8-6 and will be in the tournament.

If IWU beats Elmhurst and Millikin beats North Central, Elmhurst and Millikin will both be at 7-7.  Elmhurst holds the tiebreaker:  both they and Millikin were swept by CCIW #1 IWU and #2 Wheaton.  But Elmhurst split with #3 Carthage, while Millkin were swept by them.  Thus Elmhurst would be in the tournament.

If IWU beats Elmhurst and North Central beats Millikin, both Elmhurst and North Central will be at 7-7.  Here, North Central holds the tiebreaker:  Both were swept by IWU, but North Central beat Wheaton.  Thus, North Central would be in the tournament.

So, I don't see any way Millikin makes the tournament.  And, if IWU holds on for the school record (25-0) and beats Elmhurst, the last spot is North Central's to win.

Have I got this right?  Thanks!

Looks right to me.

Re: the bolded line - I'm reasonably sure that would also be a conference record.  Only Augustana (16-0 in 1991) and Millikin (14-0 in 1998) have ever emerged unscathed from the conference battles; while I could not find records on CCIW, Augie, or Millikin websites, I doubt either of them was undefeated for the entire regular season.  Our next goal (well, after a conference tourney title) is to get the CCIW's second national title! ;)

[NOT counting chickens before they hatch, but IF IWU makes it to the Final Four I will try my darnedest to make it to Holland - would I see anyone there?]

I stand corrected.  I just read the d3hoops.com story on the 1998 national tourney, and it mentioned that Millikin was the only undefeated team in the country (until eventual national champ Wash U beat them).  (I still don't know about Augie in 1991.)

So no conference record - yet!  But with 6 more wins .... ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 04, 2009, 12:58:00 pm
The Bloomington-Normal Pantagraph has a nice story today about Titans coach Mia Smith:
Smith Rewards IWU (http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/03/04/usports/doc49adc453159dc387456538.txt)

The Pantagraph has steadily been increasing coverage of the IWU women.  While the IWU men were playing, and with the Illinois State men's and women's teams in addition to area high schools, the coverage was pretty minimal.  It's good to see a great team starting to get its due. 

And crowds are growing--over 1000 for both CCIW tournament sessions last weekend.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 04, 2009, 10:56:51 pm
By the front page predictions, IWU may not even survive the weekend - they have UWEC as their Cinderella in the bracket (though that seemed somewhat forced, and may not really be a prediction).  But they definitely have IWU losing in the third round (if they make it there), since they have UWSP as the national champ.

Go Titans - show 'em up! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 04, 2009, 11:10:43 pm
BTW, got a solicitation call from 'Mary' tonite.  I told her if the Titans lost this weekend I'd be too depressed to donate this year.  On the other hand, if the Titans won it all I'd be so thrilled I'd double my usual contribution.  She sounded like not a regular fan, but promised to go root for them this weekend!

Hope I haven't violated any NCAA gambling rules! :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 04, 2009, 11:12:04 pm
By the front page predictions, IWU may not even survive the weekend - they have UWEC as their Cinderella in the bracket (though that seemed somewhat forced, and may not really be a prediction).  But they definitely have IWU losing in the third round (if they make it there), since they have UWSP as the national champ.

Go Titans - show 'em up! ;)

Eau Claire was picked as the Cinderella in place of Whitewater--and it's definitely hard for me to see them as Cinderellas!  

Ah well, that's why they play the games.  I'm looking forward to the weekend.

I hope Mary was soliciting for the Annual Fund!  :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 04, 2009, 11:17:55 pm
By the front page predictions, IWU may not even survive the weekend - they have UWEC as their Cinderella in the bracket (though that seemed somewhat forced, and may not really be a prediction).  But they definitely have IWU losing in the third round (if they make it there), since they have UWSP as the national champ.

Go Titans - show 'em up! ;)

Eau Claire was picked as the Cinderella in place of Whitewater--and it's definitely hard for me to see them as Cinderellas!  

Ah well, that's why they play the games.  I'm looking forward to the weekend.

I hope Mary was soliciting for the Annual Fund!  :D

Yes.  Though although from IWU, I don't recall if she said annual fund of what! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 05, 2009, 03:00:13 am
Come on, Ypsi, like with voting in Illinois, "give early and often" to the IWU annual fund!  :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 05, 2009, 12:35:31 pm
Hey Old Hoosier Baller, skafkas and thundermike11, we haven't heard from you in quite a while.
Any thoughts on the end of the '08-'09 season for Elmhurst, Wheaton or other conference teams?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike on March 06, 2009, 02:26:32 pm
Now that I am back on the board after a self-imposed hiatus I would love to offer some final thoughts on Wheaton's season.

All things considered, this season was very successful for Wheaton. Coming off a disappointing 07-08 campaign that featured some key injuries, Wheaton wanted to prove that year as a fluke and return to being a top team in the conference. After starting out 3-6, the team needed to do some soul-searching to decide what kind of season this was going to be. Their 13-4 record over the final two months speaks to the character and determination of everyone on the team, starting with the 5 seniors. That group really set the tone and took up leadership that propelled them to an outstanding 11-3 mark in CCIW play. Each of the seniors led the team in a different way and embraced their leadership roles.

The key game that I think turned this season around was the overtime win at Concordia Texas. From that point on, the Thunder played with a confidence that had not been there before. They then started conference play with a bang by blowing out NCC, a game that set the tone for the CCIW season.

Even though the loss in the tournament semifinals was a disappointing end to the season, this team has absolutely nothing to hang its collective head about.

Wheaton now says goodbye to a phenomenal senior class. Kathleen Fidelia has left her mark on the record books at Wheaton College, but beyond her outstanding basketball ability the Thunder will miss her quiet, lead-by-example approach to the game. She is a humble superstar who was the difference maker in many key Thunder victories this season. If not for IWU's incredible season I have to think she would have been the league's most outstanding player. Lynnea Kvam is an outstanding competitor who tied the Wheaton single-season mark for 3s against Carthage in the tournament. She battled back from a very painful Achilles injury and was a huge part of Wheaton's success. Her defensive play skyrocketed at the end of the season and was a huge lift to the team, and she was very deserving of her all-conference status. Noelle Dryden was a huge part of the team, though her stats wont wow you. Her constant 100% effort and willingness to do the dirty work is indispensable. Whitney Edgecombe was a great post presence this season and a great help defender. She is also a vocal leader who keeps things organized. She had some great offensive performances this season as well. Jamie Jones was a huge part of Wheaton's success. Her ability to score inside and outside was a big problem for teams defensively. She made some big shots this year, including the game-winner at Elmhurst. She earned her spot on the all-conference team.

Looking ahead to next year, Wheaton will need its young players to step up into new roles. First things first, they need to get Annie Bowen and Lissie McAlvey back to 100%. Lissie showed a lot of toughness to play through her injury this season, and Annie had a great year that ended prematurely. There is a young nucleus of good players, but they will be tested next year.

As I said, this year was very successful for Wheaton as the team put 07-08 behind them and put themselves in a position to compete for the conference title, though IWU was clearly the class of the CCIW this season. Congrats to the Thunder on a great year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mactitan on March 06, 2009, 05:03:52 pm
I am psyched about tonight.  In a couple of hours I'm heading to the Shirk Center for four + hours of March Madness.  The Titans have never won an tournament game against a team not in the SLIAC - so we can make a little history tonight.  It should be fun tonight - could there be SRO?  It has been awhile since I've been to a game at the Shirk with people standing around the railings.  That is probably too much to ask, but it would be exciting, and not beyond the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mactitan on March 06, 2009, 05:07:21 pm
Another good story in the Pantagraph, along with a small regional summary link. I have not seen the actual paper, but the Titans' visits to the front page of increased as of late.

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/03/06/usports/doc49b070754e5be508014893.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 06, 2009, 10:00:38 pm
IWU women up by 11 at half over Ohio Wesleyan.  First game won by Eau Claire over Depauw. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 07, 2009, 01:08:13 am
Just a fantastic game for the Titans tonight.  Ohio Wesleyan has some great three-point shooters, and they kept the Bishops in the game in the first half by shooting 46% on threes.  However, the Bishops' starting five played 28, 34, 32, 30, and 38 minutes; only one other player played more than 10 minutes.  The Titans were able to go deep into the bench; that group maintained a 25-30 point lead to the end of the game.

The margin was 39-28 at the half.  After the half, the Titans went on a 16-2 run in the next four minutes and that pretty much sealed the victory.  The principals in that run were Colleen Caplice, Christina Solari, Claire Sheehan, and Mallory Heydorn.  Heydorn led the Titans for the game with 17 points on 5/10 shooting, Solari had 13 with 5 assists, 7 rebounds, and 2 steals, Sheehan had 12 with 3 assists and 2 blocks (including an amazing recovery on what looked to be a wide-open layup for OWU), and Caplice had 8 points and 5 boards.  The entire Titan bench contributed; they chipped in 25 points and played more than 100 minutes.  Sheehan played 25 minutes, and no other IWU starter played more than 20. Sarah Cotner continued to impress with 11 points in 7 minutes.

Katie Hamilton led the Battling Bishops with 15 points, while Kayla Gordon contributed 13.  The Bishops got 49 of their 51 points from their starting five.  The Titans won the battle of the boards 46-29.

Tomorrow night's matchup with the UW-Eau Claire Blugolds looks intriguing, with the speed of the Titans matched up against the size of the Blugolds.  Can't wait!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2009, 01:50:08 am
It seems a recurring theme this season that the Titans come out of halftime absolutely blazing.  What sort of magic is Mia Smith performing in the locker room?! :o ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 07, 2009, 10:42:06 am
It seems a recurring theme this season that the Titans come out of halftime absolutely blazing.  What sort of magic is Mia Smith performing in the locker room?! :o ;)

I think it's called coaching ;) :)  Seriously, she (assisted by her staff) does a great job of reading the game and making adjustments throughout. 

I've always thought of the last few minutes leading up to halftime and those right after as especially important in a game and, although I haven't talked with her about it, it seems Mia Smith does too.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2009, 08:46:26 pm
UWEC got the first 5 points of the game, and the last 7 of the first half; in between it was all IWU who leads 38-32 at the midpoint.  Sheehan has 10; 7 other players have 2-6.  Schulte had to sit after getting her third foul with about 5 to go; Solari and Castens each got their second in the last minute and a half; no one else with more than one.

With three minutes left it looked like IWU was going to run away and hide, but there's a reason UWEC is ranked #9.  Let's see if the Titans can do one of those explosive second-half starts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2009, 09:18:00 pm
UWEC cut the margin to three with c. 13 left, but the Titans went on a 10-0 run; up 62-49 w/ 10 to go.

BUT, Solari just got her 4th foul. :(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 07, 2009, 09:37:36 pm
The Titans are an absolute joy the watch.  Talk about a team that plays hard for 40 minutes and leaves it all out there.  And they just have so many weapons.

IWU did not play a perfect game tonight, but I thought they really battled vs an oustanding team.  Lots of great X's and O's going on too.  Eau Claire played a lot of zone in the 1st half, and then IWU played a lot of zone in the 2nd.  Two very well-coached teams on display at the Shirk Center tonight.

Congrats on the regional victory, women, from a very proud Titan in Missouri.  Let's keep this thing rolling.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2009, 09:39:10 pm
Titans up 16 w/ 1+ to go - the hay is in the barn! :)

Although IWU led by (low) double-digits nearly the entire second half, this one never felt comfortable until about the 2 minute mark.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2009, 09:41:55 pm
Final score: IWU 80, UWEC 63.

With, presumably, UWSP coming up next, it doesn't get any easier!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2009, 09:46:44 pm
Final score: IWU 80, UWEC 63.

With, presumably, UWSP coming up next, it doesn't get any easier!
It doesn't get easier in this sectional.  I do think if IWU can win the sectional they have a good chacne at Final Four.

Officials really changed the tempo about midway in 2nd half tonight. My notes show neither team scoring for over 2 minutes all due to fouls being called.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2009, 09:54:40 pm
Nice job on defense tonight by IWU - 26 points scored off 20 turnovers by UWEC.

And the IWU bench did a terrific job contributing 26 points.

Leading IWU:
Solari, Christina 5 Reb 6 Assists 13 Pts.
Sheehan, Claire 8 Reb 17 Pts.
Heydorn, Mallory  13 Pts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 07, 2009, 10:56:44 pm
Congrats to Coach Smith and all the Titans -- great job, 29-0.  Sweet 16!  And, almost 2,000 fans at Shirk supporting women's basketball.  Fantastic.  My Mother who always complains about the poor press coverage received by women's sports will be delighted with the outcome and the Titan nation support for this wonderful team.  She's 90 and still going to all the home games!  May Dad, who is also 90, is talking about a bus ride to the women's Final Four . . .   Keep it going, keep in rolling Titans!

Great job tonight, too, by Wheaton in wacking the WAIC in their OT win tonight against a very good Plattville team.  Go CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 07, 2009, 10:58:50 pm
Congrats to Coach Smith and all the Titans -- great job, 29-0.  Sweet 16!  And, almost 2,000 fans at Shirk supporting women's basketball.  Fantastic.  My Mother who always complains about the poor press coverage received by women's sports will be delighted with the outcome and the Titan nation support for this wonderful team.  She's 90 and still going to all the home games!  May Dad, who is also 90, is talking about a bus ride to the women's Final Four . . .   Keep it going, keep in rolling Titans!

Great job tonight, too, by Wheaton in wacking the WAIC in their OT win tonight against a very good Plattville team.  Go CCIW.

And that rowdy student section that the women have never had (the guys in yellow shirts).....the IWU men's team.  Really nice to see.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 07, 2009, 11:04:50 pm
Great to see the support here.  I'll post some thoughts later, but the St. Benedict's win over UW-Whitewater has us all thinking--will IWU still host next weekend?  The schools remaining are IWU, St. Benedict's, Wash U, and UW-Stevens Point.  St. Joseph, MN, is more than 500 miles from St. Louis, but Stevens Point is within 500 miles of all the other three schools.  Does distance trump IWU's ranking above UWSP and Wash U in the Central Region? (St. Benedict's were not ranked first in the West region either).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 07, 2009, 11:07:13 pm
Great to see the support here.  I'll post some thoughts later, but the St. Benedict's win over UW-Whitewater has us all thinking--will IWU still host next weekend?  The schools remaining are IWU, St. Benedict's, Wash U, and UW-Stevens Point.  St. Joseph, MN, is more than 500 miles from St. Louis, but Stevens Point is within 500 miles of all the other three schools.  Does distance trump IWU's ranking above UWSP and Wash U in the Central Region? (St. Benedict's were not ranked first in the West region either).
Uh oh.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 07, 2009, 11:08:17 pm
Drat.  That sounds ominous.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 07, 2009, 11:11:18 pm
Drat.  That sounds ominous.
Distance might not trump ranking but travel expense and/or airfares might - Oh No  >:(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2009, 11:12:27 pm
Great to see the support here.  I'll post some thoughts later, but the St. Benedict's win over UW-Whitewater has us all thinking--will IWU still host next weekend?  The schools remaining are IWU, St. Benedict's, Wash U, and UW-Stevens Point.  St. Joseph, MN, is more than 500 miles from St. Louis, but Stevens Point is within 500 miles of all the other three schools.  Does distance trump IWU's ranking above UWSP and Wash U in the Central Region? (St. Benedict's were not ranked first in the West region either).

Well, that eliminates both St. Bennie and Wash U for the bean-counters.  I would think IWU would have the seeding over UWSP, but (fortunately :o) I don't always think like the NCAA. ;)

I'll take a stab at 60-40 IWU hosts.  (Unless, of course, St. Bennie has to fly to B'town.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 07, 2009, 11:19:19 pm
B-N does have an outstanding regional airport with good connections (including Minnesota).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 07, 2009, 11:43:29 pm
B-N does have an outstanding regional airport with good connections (including Minnesota).

Yeah, but the key question (I don't know the answer): is St. Benedict a bus ride or plane ride from IWU?  If UWSP is the ONLY location with no plane ride, they almost certainly host.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: sac on March 07, 2009, 11:45:03 pm
Drat.  That sounds ominous.
Distance might not trump ranking but travel expense and/or airfares might - Oh No  >:(

Last year Whitworth flew charter to the Holland airport, which doesn't have passenger service.  The Hope women flew the same plane down to Brownwood, Tx.

....at least that option appears to be available if need be for the teams..
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Usuallywrong24 on March 07, 2009, 11:49:06 pm
B-N does have an outstanding regional airport with good connections (including Minnesota).

Yeah, but the key question (I don't know the answer): is St. Benedict a bus ride or plane ride from IWU?  If UWSP is the ONLY location with only one plane ride, they almost certainly host.

St Bens is 535 from Bloomington.   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 08, 2009, 12:16:02 am
What a great atmosphere at Shirk tonight.  I don't have a long history at IWU--I came in 2002--but that's enough to remember some great nights for the men's team, with the students chanting "Ca-mar-DEL-la" and, of course, the Dauksas/Amelianovich/Freeman teams of 03-06.  And, during those same years, Mia Smith was coaching, recruiting, and teaching, and nobody came to the women's games.  Tonight, they came in droves--almost 2000!  The student section was full, the guys (led by the men's team) were chanting and dressed in wild costumes.  It was terrific, and it was great to see how far we've come.

It took a long time for either team to establish any kind of rhythm in this game.  The officiating played a part in that--it was wildly inconsistent in both directions.  The Titans used their press efficiently, creating 20 turnovers.  In the second half, they hardly used it at all, going instead to a zone that stopped drives to the basket.

As I write this, Randy Reinhardt's story in the Pantagraph has come up, and it tells the story well.  I especially like this phrase:  "Countering Wisconsin-Eau Claire’s height and muscle with quickness and defense...[the Titans pulled away]."

Titan Women Pull Away from Wisconsin-Eau Claire (http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/03/07/usports/doc49b34708874c4189765459.txt)

Again, it was a true team effort.  Holly Harvey only played five minutes according to the stat sheet, but she went two for two and kept the pace up when the Titans needed that.  Kylie Castans' two threes within 41 seconds in the second half were pivotal in stopping a UWEC mini-run, and she made several fine defensive plays. 

A great weekend for the Titans--ALL the Titans!--and there is everything to celebrate.  Great support from the student section!  Let's keep it going. 29-0, and more games ahead.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 08, 2009, 12:20:10 am
B-N does have an outstanding regional airport with good connections (including Minnesota).

Yeah, but the key question (I don't know the answer): is St. Benedict a bus ride or plane ride from IWU?  If UWSP is the ONLY location with only one plane ride, they almost certainly host.
It's hard to say...it just depends on the money.  They may have the money to fly two to B-N.  We'll see.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 08, 2009, 05:45:04 am
Truly hope the Sectional is at Shirk.  Look at the great support -- some good revenue coming in for women's basketball, especially if IWU gets two games in.  So happy to see the support from the students, men's team and the community.  Coach Smith and the team truly deserve the support and now the Sectional hosting. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 08, 2009, 08:59:00 am
Just a reminder of all the factors that will be considered in making the Sectional hosting decision…

The Championships Committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:

1. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;

2. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility, and transportation costs);

3. Seeding, and;

4. Attendance history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.


http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/basketball/2009/3_mbasketball_handbook.pdf

(page 7)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 08, 2009, 09:45:16 am
A post I made on the men's board, which I will mention here too because the situations are similar...

One more thought on St. Thomas vs Wheaton...

I have been assuming that undefeated St. Thomas is the higher seed in the Midwest/West bracket - the #1 to Wheaton's #2.  Since the committee does not release their seedings, all we really know is that Wheaton went in as the #1-ranked team in the Midwest and St. Thomas #1 in the West (that is where both were in the final released regional rankings).  But we don't know how they seeded St. Thomas vs Wheaton.

As of Selection Sunday, here are the considerations...

1. In-region winning % (St. Thomas 1.000, Wheaton .870)
2. In-region strength of schedule, OWP/OOWP (Wheaton .5982/.5702, St. Thomas .5117/5193)
3. In-region head-to-head (n/a)
4. In-region common opponets (n/a)
5. In-region results vs regionally ranked teams (Wheaton 7-2, St. Thomas 0-0)

There is a chance Wheaton is the #1 seed is in the Bracket of Death.  St. Thomas didn't even have a game vs a regionally ranked team until last night (vs Stevens Point).  Wheaton was 2-1 vs Elmhurst, 2-0 vs Augustana, 2-1 vs North Central, and 1-0 vs Hope (who I assume snuck in the final Great Lakes rankings).  Huge disparity there.

On the women's side, the seeding issue is more clear.  We know that IWU was ranked higher than Stevens Point and Wash U in the final published rankings...

Central Region
1. Ill. Wesleyan 21-0 24-0
2. Washington U. 18-4 20-4
3. UW-Stevens Point 21-3 22-3
4. UW-Whitewater 20-3 22-3
5. UW-Eau Claire 17-4 21-4
6. St. Norbert 18-2 19-4

St. Benedict was #2 in the West...

West Region
1. George Fox 20-0 25-0
2. St. Benedict 22-3 22-3
3. Simpson 18-3 22-3
4. Concordia-Moorhead 17-5 18-7
5. St. Thomas 18-7 18-7
6. Redlands 18-6 19-6


We don't know IWU's seeding vs St. Benedict, but I think it is safe to say IWU entered the tournament as the #1 seed in its quadrant.

If the Sectional is given to any school but IWU, it will be strictly because of travel cost.  (On the men's side, it's not clear if St. Thomas is really the #1 seed.)  My gut feeling is that IWU will get it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 08, 2009, 09:51:01 am
Q, thanks for all the info on the Sectional seedings, location decision criteria etc.  Very informative. 

On the attendance/revenue part (regional finals):

IWU vs. Eau Claire -- 1950
Stevens Point at home -- 822
Wash U at home -- 406
College of St. Benedict -- not published -- 0 ? 

The revenue part seems pretty clear.

Hope Wheaton gets the men's Sectional too.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on March 08, 2009, 10:17:58 am
Your numbers don't account for UWSP playing in their larger gym.  They played the regional in the smaller gym, but likely bid the Sectional to the bigger gym.  The last two times UWSP hosted a Sectional they drew 1,800 and 1,600 respectively.

Regardless though, since all schools are within 500 miles of all the other schools, travel cost shouldn't be a factor.  IWU will host.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 08, 2009, 10:24:58 am
Regardless though, since all schools are within 500 miles of all the other schools, travel cost shouldn't be a factor.  IWU will host.

As far as I know, that is not right.  At Stevens Point, all 4 teams can bus...at IWU, St. Benedict has to fly.

Am I wrong about that?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on March 08, 2009, 10:32:49 am
https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/TES/exec/miles

Right you are.  St. Ben's would have to fly to either IWU or Wash. U.  All three can bus to UWSP.  I forgot how much further north St. Ben's is than Stevens Point.  I was thinking of them as essentially the same lattitude.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on March 08, 2009, 10:44:12 am
Official Travel Distances -

IWU-Wash U. - 171 miles
UWSP-St. Ben's - 288 miles
UWSP-IWU - 300 miles
UWSP-Wash U. - 469 miles
IWU-St. Ben's - 532 miles
St.Ben's-Wash U. - 628 miles


https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/TES/exec/miles

St. Ben's beating UW-Whitewater may have cost IWU the chance to host.  If it was UWW in this field, it would almost certainly be IWU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 08, 2009, 11:59:02 am
IWU sports updates is announcing that the sectionals will be in Bloomington.  6:00 CDT St. Benedict v. Wash U; 8:00 UWSP v. IWU.  This comes from the office of the SID. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on March 08, 2009, 12:00:44 pm
If so, then good for the NCAA, going with seeding over geography.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 08, 2009, 12:50:55 pm
Way to go, Titans! Don't forget your homework.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 08, 2009, 02:44:25 pm
I'm pleasantly surprised (bordering on shocked ;)) that IWU will host rather than UWSP.  In a discussion of host selection in the CCIW men's thread, Pat said he believes this is the first time ever that the NCAA has voluntarily ponied-up for a plane flight to maintain seeding integrity. 

I'll say something I may never have said before: bravo, NCAA! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on March 08, 2009, 02:47:52 pm
Maybe the men's committee needs to take a lesson from the women's committee about placing competition and fairness over dollars.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 08, 2009, 09:03:02 pm
Looking at the season averages for IWU and UW-Eau Claire, it's almost startling how each team's performance last night closely tracks its season average:

For IWU:

Last night's scoring:  80     Season average  79.6
FG %                       50%                           45%
Opponent's points                                       55.8

For UW-Eau Claire:

Last night's scoring  63      Season average 63.3
FG%                       39.6%                        43.8
Opponent's points                                      51.8

It looks like each team pretty much played its game, offensively.  The big difference is that IWU simply scored a lot more than Eau Claire's previous opponents.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: veterancciwfan on March 08, 2009, 11:12:02 pm
Regarding the bracket IWU is in, half of the top 10 teams in the country were in it and now three of the remaining top 6 teams advance to the IWU sectional (IWU #1, Stevens Point #4 and Wash. U. #6). The likelihood is that the winner of the IWU sectional will be national champs. Can you imagine the D1 Tournament committee setting up the men's or women's NCAA tournament so that the #1 team in the country would logically play the #4 team in only the 3rd round? Of course not, but the NCAA, which has billions, won't spend a little of it's wealth to reward seeding. And I'm well aware of the reasons behind the NCAA philisophy of D3 competion. Oh well, we all know that the NCAA merely tolerates D3, even though the true student-athlete (and I stress student) competes at the D3 level. Just happy that the D3 national committee is paying for the plane ride for St. Benedict to fly to Bloomington. Should be an exciting tournament. Did Stevens Point beat South Dakota or S. D. State on the road this year?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 08, 2009, 11:48:20 pm
Regarding the bracket IWU is in, half of the top 10 teams in the country were in it and now three of the remaining top 6 teams advance to the IWU sectional (IWU #1, Stevens Point #4 and Wash. U. #6). The likelihood is that the winner of the IWU sectional will be national champs. Can you imagine the D1 Tournament committee setting up the men's or women's NCAA tournament so that the #1 team in the country would logically play the #4 team in only the 3rd round? Of course not, but the NCAA, which has billions, won't spend a little of it's wealth to reward seeding. And I'm well aware of the reasons behind the NCAA philisophy of D3 competion. Oh well, we all know that the NCAA merely tolerates D3, even though the true student-athlete (and I stress student) competes at the D3 level. Just happy that the D3 national committee is paying for the plane ride for St. Benedict to fly to Bloomington. Should be an exciting tournament. Did Stevens Point beat South Dakota or S. D. State on the road this year?

The women's committee still beats the heck out of the men's: the sectional at Wheaton consists of the national #1, #2, #3, and #7 teams!  (With #4, #5, and #8 having already been eliminated.)  And glad you mentioned the sectional being in B'town rather than UWSP as we all expected - the men's committee has NEVER voluntarily ponied-up for a plane flight to protect the integrity of seeds.  Given the d3 regionalism philosophy (and economic realities), I think the women's tourney is just about as good as it gets.

[But, yes, that sectional IS a doozy! ;D]
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2009, 02:24:12 am
I'm pleasantly surprised (bordering on shocked ;)) that IWU will host rather than UWSP.  In a discussion of host selection in the CCIW men's thread, Pat said he believes this is the first time ever that the NCAA has voluntarily ponied-up for a plane flight to maintain seeding integrity. 

What I actually said was that I can't recall the men ever doing it. I didn't say anything about the women or whether this was the first time ever.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 09, 2009, 07:40:00 am
Did Stevens Point beat South Dakota or S. D. State on the road this year?

It was Eau Claire who beat South Dakota on the road, 62-50.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 09, 2009, 09:49:11 pm
Other than being the toughest opponent the Titans have faced (at least since Wash U in the second game of the season - and who is the likely opponent for the winner), does anyone know anything about UWSP?  Size or speed (or both :o)?  Defensive-minded or up-tempo?  Main threats?  Anything?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on March 09, 2009, 09:59:30 pm
UWSP has a history of outstanding post players, but this team has been an exception to that tradition. They have good post players but their strength is in their guards (and their post players who step out and act like guards).  They take a lot of stuff off the dribble and are very quick.  They don't full court press per se, but they almost always pick up the point guard for the length of the floor.

Their biggest strength this year is their balance. They've had games where they score 80 points and nobody has more than 12.  They've had 8 different players lead the team in scoring at least once this year.  The kid who led them in scoring in the second round game (Flease) had never been their leading scorer all season until that game.  It's not possible to key on just 1 or 2 kids with them.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 09, 2009, 10:39:11 pm
UWSP has a history of outstanding post players, but this team has been an exception to that tradition. They have good post players but their strength is in their guards (and their post players who step out and act like guards).  They take a lot of stuff off the dribble and are very quick.  They don't full court press per se, but they almost always pick up the point guard for the length of the floor.

Their biggest strength this year is their balance. They've had games where they score 80 points and nobody has more than 12.  They've had 8 different players lead the team in scoring at least once this year.  The kid who led them in scoring in the second round game (Flease) had never been their leading scorer all season until that game.  It's not possible to key on just 1 or 2 kids with them.

Thanks, Bill.  I gave my response on the WIAC board.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 11, 2009, 01:34:14 pm
Here are the 2FG % and 3FG % for conference-only games (not counting the CCIW tournament) :
                             2FG                                 3FG
IWU           308/585  .526                   99/325  .305
CARTH       270/574  .470                    60/194  .309
MILL          223/487  .458                   89/252  .353
WHE          292/648  .451                   84/259  .324
ELMH         305/725  .421                   37/153  .242
NC             255/630  .405                   60/188  .319
AUG           220/549  .401                   47/187  .251
NP             206/582  .354                   43/161  .267

Elmhurst shot 52 two-point attempts per game, by far the most in the league (Wheaton next at 46) and took only 11 threes per game. IWU tried 23 threes per game.
IWU (910) and Wheaton (907) were at the top in total FG attempts and had the least turnovers (16.4, 16.1) per game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mactitan on March 11, 2009, 01:39:14 pm
I was a little disappointed that Claire Sheehan didn't bring another Josten's Trophy back to Bloomington.  Her resume seemed pretty impressive - certainly someone to be proud of as an alum.  Then I read the list of accomplishments of the two winners - holy cow!  Not to take anything away from Sheehan, but the winners are remarkable student athletes.

I love the Jostens Trophy, my only regret is that the only people that know about it are people that come to this site (and maybe a few others).  Wouldn't it be great if ESPN had a presentation show like they do for the Heisman?  All 20 nominees for the award are remarkable young people, they give me hope for a future in times that are pretty dire.  Wouldn't it be great if our society put them up on the pedestal?  These students are the real role models - not TO or A-Rod.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mactitan on March 11, 2009, 01:48:37 pm
Their biggest strength this year is their balance. They've had games where they score 80 points and nobody has more than 12.  They've had 8 different players lead the team in scoring at least once this year.  The kid who led them in scoring in the second round game (Flease) had never been their leading scorer all season until that game.  It's not possible to key on just 1 or 2 kids with them.

SP's balance does not worry me so much as their depth.  IWU has been crushing teams in the second half because they are so deep.  They will often have nine players get 10+ minutes.  Their full court press seems to be broken early, but gets more tenacious as the opponent gets frustrated/tired.  IWU has several long, athletic players that keep the pressure going for forty minutes.  A team that only goes two deep on the bench is going to be in a lot of trouble in the second half.

That is why I think UWSP might be a pretty tough matchup against IWU - especially if SP's strength is in their guards.  A deep team with good guards is exactly the kind of team that could knock off the Titans.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike on March 11, 2009, 02:43:01 pm
I think the biggest advantage IWU will have is being at home. They shoot the lights out at the Shirk Center
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 11, 2009, 06:57:44 pm
Some more conference-games-only stats :
Percentages of their points scored according to shot type.
              via FTs         via 2FG           via 3FG
AUG         .230             .583               .187
CARTH     .204             .597               .199
ELMH       .184             .690               .126
IWU         .186             .549               .265
MILL        .194             .504               .302
NC           .209             .585               .206
NP           .255             .567               .178
WHE        .184             .570               .246

North Park and Augustana relied on free throws quite a bit. That could be a by-product of the defenses that were employed against them.
Millikin got a significant portion of their scoring from threes, where they led the conference with 35.3% accuracy.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 13, 2009, 08:51:18 pm
Wash U women win in Bloomington, into the Elite 8.  IWU up next with WIAC SP.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on March 13, 2009, 09:36:33 pm
IWU up 8 at the half.  36-28.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 13, 2009, 10:13:49 pm
IWU 58, UWSP 44, 9 to go.

Solari just injured with poke to the eye. :(  Hopefully nothing serious.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 13, 2009, 10:36:37 pm
Titans win, 77-64.

Re-match with Wash U tomorrow. :)

I won't make my reservations for Holland until tomorrow night, but I'm feelin' good! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 13, 2009, 10:54:58 pm
Christina Solari had a monster game, leading the Titans in points, rebounds, AND assists.  I don't follow the national scene in women's nearly as much as in men's, but if she isn't national POY I have no clue who is.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 13, 2009, 11:12:13 pm
Very nice work by the Titans tonight.  Solid play by everyone.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: gordonmann on March 13, 2009, 11:26:17 pm
Mr. Ypsi:

Take a look at what Hillary Klimowicz is doing for unranked TCNJ.  She has a very good POY resume, too.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 13, 2009, 11:27:58 pm
Titans are keeping it rolling.  Strong play by everyone, starters and bench.  Double-double, superb game by Solari for sure.  Keep it rolling -- Wash U up next, a good challenge, but Final Four in sight now.  2000 at The Shirk for Women's basketball . . . great to see.  Elite 8 -- great job!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 14, 2009, 12:57:03 am
Just spend about 45 minutes typing a report with detailed stats and lost it as the mouse slipped. 

Final Four-Quality atmosphere matchup tonight at Shirk between UW-Stevens Point and IWU.  2000 (including an all-volunteer Titan Band on the first night of IWU's Spring Break) watched (as everyone now knows), the Titans prevail, 77-64.

Christina Solari's 18 points, 13 rebounds, and team-leading 5 assists sparked the Titans, who had four in double figures.  Colleen Caplice was heroic all over the court.  Mallory Heydorn's 4 assists and 4 blocks were huge.

Stevens Point is a very good team; this matchup felt like a heavyweight boxing match with each slide slugging it out.  Congratulations to the Pointers on an excellent game and, evidently, a very good season in winning the WIAC.

The Titans' rematch with Wash U should be another good battle.  Looking forward to it!



Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2009, 02:53:43 am
Mr. Ypsi:

Take a look at what Hillary Klimowicz is doing for unranked TCNJ.  She has a very good POY resume, too.

Those are some pretty impressive stats.  But I don't think I'd want to make a trade! ;)

Anyone else on the radar?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 14, 2009, 11:13:09 am
That was a very good win for the Titans last night, against a strong, talented opponent.
All nine Titans that played did good work. Claire Sheehan missed just one shot, scoring 15. As mentioned by others, Christina Solari was her usual excellent self, as was Mallory Heydorn.
Stacey Arlis exceeded her customary 70% shooting average and did well in all aspects of the game.
Hope Schulte keeps getting better and better, playing a superb all-around game. Colleen Caplice was a strong, effective presence at both ends of the court.
Nikki Preston, Holly Harvey and Kylie Castans each contributed in multiple ways in their time on the court.
Another tough opponent awaits tonight. Wash U displayed an interestingly varied offense last evening. From my observation, you could not predict what they were going to try in any possession or even where the point guard would dribble to, to set up a play. So, it'll be a good contest. Go Titans!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Lorasbball on March 14, 2009, 11:14:46 am
All American Finalists
http://www.wbca.org/Releases/SFCAATFinalistsDIII09.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 14, 2009, 01:06:38 pm
Claire Sheehan is very deserving.  But, how can it be that Christina Solari is not on the list nominated for All-American?  On a team 31-0 and leading in almost all statistical categories.  Bizarre.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on March 14, 2009, 01:10:59 pm
Thanks to the Titans for making it fairly easy on me last night as a scoreboard watched intently from King Arena.  The lead was never huge, but it seemed like it was always at least 8.

Very proud of the Titans and will be glued to the IWU/Wash U live stats while broadcasting St. Thomas vs Wash U men.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 14, 2009, 02:23:43 pm
Mr. Ypsi:

Take a look at what Hillary Klimowicz is doing for unranked TCNJ.  She has a very good POY resume, too.

Gordon,

Yes, Hillary Klimowicz is a very impressive player.  I thnk she's gotten quite a bit of press: I've heard of her from coverage on D3hoops, and, I think, on Hoopsville as well.  Wasn't she also on the cover of Sports Illustrated for leaving a DI school?

Still, I think it's fair to put forward the case for an outstanding player who happens to play in the CCIW, who hasn't gotten quite as much national attention, on the CCIW board.

Here's a comparison of stats for Klimowicz and IWU's Christina Solari:

Klimowicz:  20.3 points per game
                 10.8 rebounds per game
                 1.9 assists per game
                 28 steals for the season
                 112 blocks for the season (all out of 26 games from the TCNJ website).
                 Klimowicz's points represent 30% of TCNJ's 68.0 average.

Solari:  14.3 points per game
            10.1 rebounds per game
            3.7 assists per game
            64 steals for the season
            11 blocks for the season (all out of 30 games from the IWU website).
            Solari's points represent 18% of IWU's 79.5 average.

Solari's additional 2 assists per game essentially bring her even with Klimowicz in the number of points she's created; the primary difference is that IWU scores more points (and does not require Solari to score as much).  Both are admirable players and very worthy of consideration for post-season honors.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike on March 14, 2009, 04:05:18 pm
Best of luck to IWU tonight--should be a real battle. Once again, I think home court advantage is huge for the Titans, especially with the way the IWU community has been rallying in support of the team. Keep carrying the CCIW flag all the way to Holland!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 14, 2009, 08:30:56 pm
Cold shooting night for the Titans.  Looks like trouble.  Wash U up big late in the 1st half.  Gotta make some shots to get back in.  So far, all Bears.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2009, 08:38:34 pm
Here's hoping Mia Smith has one heckuva a halftime plan - Titans down 20-31 at intermission.

And there won't be a home court advantage at the FF as Hope comes up one game short (again), 46-58 to George Fox.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 14, 2009, 08:39:56 pm
Not very pretty Mark,  Iif IWU had hit for season average then I have them with a two point lead rather than down 11
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 14, 2009, 08:41:53 pm
Officials are 'letting them play' in the paint.  Typical of NCAA sectional championship games.  IWU needs to work the ball inside more - get a bucket or get to the foul line.  And, nothing wrong with 12-14' jump shots when the three not falling
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2009, 09:04:49 pm
So far, looks like Mia's halftime magic is holding - 6 minutes in the Bears' lead is down to 5.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: devildog29 on March 14, 2009, 09:07:23 pm
3's are starting to fall.  Hopefully they continue to do so.  Within 2 now.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: closetothechest on March 14, 2009, 09:45:34 pm
Wash U wins the one that counts, 58-53.  Great job by a Hall of Fame Coach. 
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Post by: iwu70 on March 14, 2009, 09:49:45 pm
Great game, both teams putting it all out there.  Titans cold shooting first half cost them.  Great comeback, never giving up, but just 2-3 shots short of the Final Four.  Sad.  Must have been a real knock down, tough defensive battle to hold both teams below 60.  % shooting by both teams down, esp. Titans. 

Congrats to Wash U -- go on and win it all.  Super congrats to Coach Smith and all the Titans on the best season in IWU basketball history bar none.  A great achievement.  You have moved IWU women's basketball to an entirely new level of excellence and fan support.  The Titan Nation is grateful to each of you!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 14, 2009, 09:54:25 pm
Temendous game by IWU and WashU.  The Titans just dug a big 11 point deficit in 1st half on 20% FG shooting.  Good effort in 2nd half by Titans. 

WashU came out strong with a solid game plan and, for the most part, stayed with it.  IWu could not get anything substantial to fall through the hoop in the 1st half despite good, open looks.  Final 58-53 WashU.

Thanks for an exciting season IWU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2009, 10:01:36 pm
While it was a GREAT season, I'm too steamed to let it just go at that quite yet.  The killer came from the zebras with about 2 minutes left.  With the game very much  on the line, and perhaps one second away from a backcourt time violation, they called a phantom foul on the Titans.  A turnover turns instead into two points for Wash U.  And if what was done to Solari on the court tonight (usually with no call) had been done off the court, someone would be going to prison! >:(

This is NOT intended to take anything away from Wash U - they earned the win.  But with better officiating, things might have turned out differently.

With the demise of my finalists (IWU over Hope) tonight, my women's pickem bracket turned from contender to garbage. :(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Just Bill on March 14, 2009, 10:09:25 pm
While it was a GREAT season, I'm too steamed to let it just go at that quite yet.  The killer came from the zebras with about 2 minutes left.  With the game very much  on the line, and perhaps one second away from a backcourt time violation, they called a phantom foul on the Titans.  A turnover turns instead into two points for Wash U.  And if what was done to Solari on the court tonight (usually with no call) had been done off the court, someone would be going to prison! >:(

This is NOT intended to take anything away from Wash U - they earned the win.  But with better officiating, things might have turned out differently.

With the demise of my finalists (IWU over Hope) tonight, my women's pickem bracket turned from contender to garbage. :(

There are no backcourt 10-second violations in women's basketball. They can stay in the backcourt as long as they want.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2009, 10:12:29 pm
While it was a GREAT season, I'm too steamed to let it just go at that quite yet.  The killer came from the zebras with about 2 minutes left.  With the game very much  on the line, and perhaps one second away from a backcourt time violation, they called a phantom foul on the Titans.  A turnover turns instead into two points for Wash U.  And if what was done to Solari on the court tonight (usually with no call) had been done off the court, someone would be going to prison! >:(

This is NOT intended to take anything away from Wash U - they earned the win.  But with better officiating, things might have turned out differently.

With the demise of my finalists (IWU over Hope) tonight, my women's pickem bracket turned from contender to garbage. :(

There are no backcourt 10-second violations in women's basketball. They can stay in the backcourt as long as they want.

Thanks for the info - serves me right for neglecting the women's game until IWU suddenly became a power!

The shot clock was down to about 8 when they called the 'phantom' foul, so it still might have been a turnover.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike on March 14, 2009, 10:15:13 pm
Congrats to IWU for a great season
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 14, 2009, 10:25:42 pm
We were discussing the phantom foul in the car on the way home.  Although I may complain about individual calls during a game, I rarely think that the refs have influenced the outcome of a game.  But that one--the one I'm thinking of was on Claire Sheehan in the open court, when the Titans were about to get a five-second count on the ball handler (not any sort of over-and-back).  It did feel that that might have shifted the momentum.  The comments about "letting them play" under the basket are right on--both sides got away with a lot.  But little touch fouls elsewhere were whistled.

Anyway...the Titans simply spotted the Bears too many points early in the game.  IWU blew easy layups and couldn't buy, beg, or steal a rebound, while the Wash U 3 shooters shot the lights out.  The resurgence in the second half came as a result of Mia Smith laying into them during a timeout.  "Where is the intensity in our press?  You do it for one or two passes and then quit!"  They came out energized, and we, the crowd made Shirk as loud as I have ever heard it.  I really thought they would pull themselves back, but it was not to be.  Wash U was the better team tonight and deserve to move on.

It was a fabulous, magical season for the Titans.  As Mia said to the crowd afterward, at the beginning of the season there would be maybe 50 people at the games, and now there are 2000.  They were fun to watch and easy to support.  We enjoyed getting to know the team members and their families.  Many thanks, ladies--we'll see you next season!

Best of luck to the remaining competitors!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2009, 10:56:45 pm
HT,

Since we will not now be meeting in Holland, a question:

The Titans lose a ton to graduation (oops - hope Mallory, Claire, etc., won't take that as a 'weight' joke ;)), but have some amazing players returning.  In your opinion, are we looking at a veritable dynasty in the CCIW, or is next year a step back?  (I wouldn't expect another 31-0, but are they still the 'big dogs' [another term that could get me in trouble ;D] in the conference?)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 14, 2009, 11:22:01 pm
HT,

Since we will not now be meeting in Holland, a question:

The Titans lose a ton to graduation (oops - hope Mallory, Claire, etc., won't take that as a 'weight' joke ;)), but have some amazing players returning.  In your opinion, are we looking at a veritable dynasty in the CCIW, or is next year a step back?  (I wouldn't expect another 31-0, but are they still the 'big dogs' [another term that could get me in trouble ;D] in the conference?)

Mr. Y,

First, you really should come back to Bloomington for a game!  :)

I think that IWU has a great basis on which to build.  First, Christina Solari is a junior this year.  She'll be here next season, and that counts for a ton (carrying on the weight theme...).  Many of the "second string" players here this year would have been starters at many schools, so my opinion is that IWU is well-stocked for the immediate future.  In large part, this is due to Mia Smith's tireless recruiting efforts...I have no doubts she is still quite active in that regard this season.

One can never promise 30-0 in repetition, but they are certainly stronger than when Mallory Heydorn, Claire Sheehan, and Colleen Caplice committed to IWU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 14, 2009, 11:48:02 pm
HT,

Since we will not now be meeting in Holland, a question:

The Titans lose a ton to graduation (oops - hope Mallory, Claire, etc., won't take that as a 'weight' joke ;)), but have some amazing players returning.  In your opinion, are we looking at a veritable dynasty in the CCIW, or is next year a step back?  (I wouldn't expect another 31-0, but are they still the 'big dogs' [another term that could get me in trouble ;D] in the conference?)

Mr. Y,

First, you really should come back to Bloomington for a game!  :)

I think that IWU has a great basis on which to build.  First, Christina Solari is a junior this year.  She'll be here next season, and that counts for a ton (carrying on the weight theme...).  Many of the "second string" players here this year would have been starters at many schools, so my opinion is that IWU is well-stocked for the immediate future.  In large part, this is due to Mia Smith's tireless recruiting efforts...I have no doubts she is still quite active in that regard this season.

One can never promise 30-0 in repetition, but they are certainly stronger than when Mallory Heydorn, Claire Sheehan, and Colleen Caplice committed to IWU.

I agree.  Titans have the talent to be as good next season.  And, from a recruit's perspective, IWU represents a really attractive WBB program.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on March 15, 2009, 12:02:15 am
Three things bothered me, with respect to WashU, coming into tonight's game: 1) Bears' ability to well execute a half-court offense; 2) Ability to get back on defense.  I had particularly noted how well WashU out hustled StBen in that aspect. Almost every time, WashU beat St Ben back down the court and often turning a St Ben 2 on 1 advantage into a 2 on 4 disadvantage. and 3) Could (and would) IWU penetrate the middle to break down the zone?

WashU came out with a good game plan and stayed with it.  I felt IWU's defense could handle #1 (and it did for the most part).  I thought IWU could handle #2 (and did also - the ball just did not drop through the hoop). 

I was disappointed in the Titan offensive approach on #3 above.  In the first half, with the three's not dropping, IWU did not take the ball to the hoop.  While the Titans did a better job in the 2nd half, for some reason, a little success with the three took them out of penetrating the middle.  I did not understand that - particularly when the Titans were able to cut the margin with the clock off - from the foul line by making free throws obtained from opportunities created by going to the hoop from the paint.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 15, 2009, 12:26:50 am
HT,

Since we will not now be meeting in Holland, a question:

The Titans lose a ton to graduation (oops - hope Mallory, Claire, etc., won't take that as a 'weight' joke ;)), but have some amazing players returning.  In your opinion, are we looking at a veritable dynasty in the CCIW, or is next year a step back?  (I wouldn't expect another 31-0, but are they still the 'big dogs' [another term that could get me in trouble ;D] in the conference?)

Mr. Y,

First, you really should come back to Bloomington for a game!  :)

I think that IWU has a great basis on which to build.  First, Christina Solari is a junior this year.  She'll be here next season, and that counts for a ton (carrying on the weight theme...).  Many of the "second string" players here this year would have been starters at many schools, so my opinion is that IWU is well-stocked for the immediate future.  In large part, this is due to Mia Smith's tireless recruiting efforts...I have no doubts she is still quite active in that regard this season.

One can never promise 30-0 in repetition, but they are certainly stronger than when Mallory Heydorn, Claire Sheehan, and Colleen Caplice committed to IWU.

I'd like that (and if IWU is IN the FF next year, I'll be there).  I took a Bloomington trip in December 2004, but no one in my family has any ties to d3, so it isn't easy.  #1 son is now a college junior (U of Michigan), so largely irrelevant to my travels (though we're still his laundromat and occasional ATM), but #2 son is a hand full.  Wife is very understanding, but I hate to leave her in the lurch.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 15, 2009, 09:56:57 am
Congratulations for an excellent season to the whole Titan team, to those who played the most and to those who were prepared to step in, whenever called upon. IWU represented our conference with style and determination.
Colleen Caplice, Claire Sheehan and Mallory Heydorn all had superb NCAA careers. Hopefully, the sadness from last night will fade away quickly.
It was my pleasure to talk to the Mallory Dad numerous times this season -- a nice guy, who should be highly proud of his daughter. He knows what the players throughout the CCIW have gone through to make it to the college level and has complimented many of them for their effort and play.
As for next year, the Titans will be very good, even if no one was added to the roster. We know that Coach Smith recruits as well as anyone, so we can anticipate more new good Titans.
It will take something extraordinary, not ordinary, to top them in the CCIW in '09-'10.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on March 15, 2009, 10:42:10 am
We were discussing the phantom foul in the car on the way home.  Although I may complain about individual calls during a game, I rarely think that the refs have influenced the outcome of a game.  But that one--the one I'm thinking of was on Claire Sheehan in the open court, when the Titans were about to get a five-second count on the ball handler (not any sort of over-and-back).  It did feel that that might have shifted the momentum. 

There are no backcourt 10-second violations in women's basketball. They can stay in the backcourt as long as they want.

When you say "ball-handler" was the player dribbling?

There are no five-seconds calls when the ball is being dribbled. The only five second calls in women's basketball are when the ball is being held, or on the in-bounds.

I have actually seen teams stay in the backcourt and dribble the ball to run out the clock at the end of the game. Consequently, pressing at the end of a game is pretty pointless once the ball is inbounded. Teams have to foul right away.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on March 15, 2009, 10:46:59 am
My recollection is that a ball-handler had picked up her dribble and was trapped by two other players; the foul was on someone else who looked to me to be just running in the open court.  The video of the game will probably be online on the iwusports.com website in a day or so if it's not already.  Personally, I have no desire to watch it again, but feel free! 

I don't want to leave this part of the discussion with the idea that I said that that call, or any call, changed the game completely.  As I said before, Wash U did an excellent job of executing their game plan, and the Titans did not in the first half.  This game was almost a reverse of the one in St. Louis (the first one I saw the Titans play this year), where the Titans had a 5-8 point lead throughout much of the second half and then the Bears went on a run at the end to leave the gap at 3.  We knew it would be close going in, and it was, with Wash U holding off the challenge this time.  The result was fair and well-earned.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike on March 16, 2009, 02:23:39 pm
Here's a look at who will not be returning next year to each school:

Augie:
Sarah Rachwalski (7.4 ppg)

Carthage:
Shana Lieberman (5.3 ppg)
Carlie Janowiak (4.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg) 3rd team all-CCIW
Katie Jarger (12.1 ppg, 5.2 rpg), 2nd team all-CCIW, top scorer
Lisa Gartelos (9.1 ppg, 4.2 rpg), 3rd team all-CCIW

Elmhurst:
Amber Hendricks (0.8 ppg)
Jen Myers (2.4 ppg)
Marissa Parker (1.1 ppg)
Brittany Bobruk (10.4 ppg, 6.5 rpg)

Illinois Wesleyan:
Claire Sheehan (13.5 ppg,76 assists), 1st team all-CCIW (not sure why this wasn't unanimous)
Mallory Heydorn (11.4 ppg, 87 assists) 2nd team all-CCIW
Colleen Caplice (4.8 ppg, 4.0 rpg)

Millikin:
Ricki Dorsett (5.0 ppg)
Ally James (2.4 ppg)
Jacquie Larson (2.0 ppg)
Kayla Pembrook (11.0 ppg, 7.1 rpg), 2nd team all-CCIW
Whitney Schwartz (6.4 ppg, 4.2 rpg)
Tracie Yantis (10.0 ppg, 4.8 rpg)

North Central (nice new athletics website, by the way):
Gia Navarra (7.6 ppg, 4.9 rpg)
Amber Cibrario (3.8 ppg)
Brianne Parra (13.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg), 1st team all-CCIW, top scorer

North Park:
Amanda Phillips (10.1 ppg, 4.7 rpg)
LaRae Kostreva (14.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg), 2nd team all-CCIW, top scorer/rebounder
Stylianee Damianides (6.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 79 assists)

Wheaton:
Noelle Dryden (1.9 ppg)
Lynnea Kvam (8.3 ppg, 63 three-pointers a single season Wheaton record), 3rd team all-CCIW
Kathleen Fidelia (18.7 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 107 assists, 71 steals), unanimous 1st team all-CCIW
Jamie Jones (12.0 ppg, 5.5 rpg), 2nd team all-CCIW
Whitney Edgecombe (5.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg)

There's a lot of talent in those lists. Just about every team is losing significant piece(s) to the puzzle. Carthage loses a ton of talent, Wesleyan loses three good players (but also has a ton of returning talent), Millikin loses a bunch (Elise Wildman stays though), North Central says goodbye to a couple of its top players, North Parks top scorers are gone, and Wheaton loses its top three scorers as well (including one of the best overall players in the conference).

Looking ahead, IWU (with MOP Solari back) and Elmhurst (Long is returning) both look to be in pretty good shape for 09-10. Everybody else has some big shoes to fill.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 16, 2009, 07:15:11 pm
Thanks, thundermike, for taking the time to list all the seniors for us.
Their absence next fall will be a significant impact on their teams and the conference as a whole.
The first one on the list is a good example. Sarah Rachwalski had a nice career with Augie. She could shoot (and maybe should have more often) and played solid defense. But I think it's her ballhandling that will be missed the most. Good dribbling doesn't show in the stats, but is a vital component in a functioning offense. Augie will need others to pick up in that area, and I don't limit that to guards.
Millikin is losing a big portion (6 players) of its team.  However, that will open up opportunity for others.
One such player that could grab playing time is Julia Robert, who played 195 minutes as a freshman this season. Her shooting was very good, albeit a small sample : 11/22 on twos (.500), 7/19 threes (.368) and 7/8 FTs (.875). She might be someone to keep an eye on. Her fellow Big Blue freshman and former high school teammate, Bethany Wellbaum, also 5' 7", played 324 minutes this year. In the pair of games I saw, I liked her speed and general athleticism. It would not surprise me if she also is very prominent for Millikin next year.
I wish we had a Millikin fan among our readers, to perhaps contribute insight about the Decatur team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 16, 2009, 10:09:19 pm
IWU has picked up a pair of very athletic guards in Mallory Heydorn and Claire Sheehan. From what I saw Saturday at Elmhurst, I'd say IWU will be happy to have them for four years.

Speaking of freshman guards, when I attended the Nov 29 NC at Wheaton game, Kathleen Fidelia impressed me as being the next Laura Mount. I see that she nabbed 7 steals in 25 minutes at North Park. If Fidelia improves her offense from year to year, as Mount has done, she will be quite good.

Just ran across this old post as I was researching something.

RogK,  I commend your eye for freshman talent! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 16, 2009, 10:17:39 pm
Congratulations to CCIW Most Outstanding Player, Heidi Harnisch of IWU.
Playing through pain for a lot of the season, she still ranked 3rd in the nation in 3 point pct at .478 and led the conference with .506. Her 2.9 made threes/game was 15th best nationally and her 3.07/game led the CCIW. All excellent numbers. Obviously, she does more than shoot threes. Her ability to cut to the hoop makes her even more difficult to guard.
IWU will be lucky to find another 5'10" player who can shoot and score so well, although they did find Harnisch when it was time to replace previous MVP Katie Cantrell, who was a similarly superb 5'10" player.
All CCIW teams need a Heidi Harnisch or two.
Again, congratulations to the league's new MVP.


Before you get a swelled head, I had to add this one! ;)

Although injured most of her freshman year, Christina Solari entered school that fall. :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 16, 2009, 11:26:26 pm
Obviously, I feel chatty tonight! ;)

Not many teams could survive the graduation of a Mallory Heydorn-Claire Sheehan backcourt, but I THINK the Titans have so much talent on the bench they will only take a half-step back.  Comments?

It's way pre-mature to speculate (one never knows when the next Ippel/Trenz freshmen will arrive, or the super transfer), but as of today would I be safe in assuming that IWU will still be heavily favored next year?

BTW, just to sow the seeds of terror in the opposition - Christina Solari will be a senior, but she is fully eligible for a medical redshirt year!  I have no clue whether she would take it - I doubt even she would know, and the decision may be up to her parents (after all, there are already two Solari's at IWU - any more in the pipeline? ;D), but be forewarned.  She COULD play two more years! :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike on March 17, 2009, 12:25:35 am
Not many teams could survive the graduation of a Mallory Heydorn-Claire Sheehan backcourt, but I THINK the Titans have so much talent on the bench they will only take a half-step back.  Comments?

It's way pre-mature to speculate (one never knows when the next Ippel/Trenz freshmen will arrive, or the super transfer), but as of today would I be safe in assuming that IWU will still be heavily favored next year?

I think IWU will be favored again next year, and Elmhurst will probably be right behind them. Not only do the Titans return Solari, but also 5 other players who played in at least 30 games this year (Schulte, Preston, Arlis, Castens, Harvey). They have plenty of talent returning, though I wouldn't expect another 30-1. In addition to Lyndsie Long, Elmhurst returns Meghan Merklein, Kelsey Monroe, and Megan Ney so they should be in pretty good shape too.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 17, 2009, 12:51:11 pm
Thanks, Mr. Ypsi, for your compliment. But, it didn't take a lot of smarts to immediately see that Fidelia, Sheehan and Heydorn were all going to be excellent. I don't think I saw Christina play in that year of her injury; I remember that Mia Smith said Christina was quite a rebounder.
Elmhurst loses a fine player in Brittany Bobruk. Several players will have to become strong rebounders and defenders to replace what she did for the Jays. If her numbers were down this season, it's understandable -- I believe she lost a close family member in November or December.
Elmhurst has a nice group of players coming back, for sure.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike on March 17, 2009, 06:48:17 pm
D3hoops.com All-Region teams are out and the CCIW is well represented

1st Team:
Kathleen Fidelia (Wheaton)
Christina Solari (IWU)- Central Region Player of the Year

2nd Team:
Claire Sheehan (IWU)

3rd Team:
Lyndsie Long (Elmhurst)

Central Region Coach of the Year: Mia Smith (IWU)

Congrats to all!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 18, 2009, 01:44:14 pm
Since I referred to Elmhurst's rebounding in my previous post, I thought I'd better actually look at the stats.
Brittany Bobruk did lead the team with .274 per minute.
Here are the per-minute averages for the rest of the team, excluding the seniors and those who didn't play at least 100 minutes (an arbitrary cut-off).
CJ Harris .270, L Benson .234, L Long .230, M Ney .221, M McTeague .203,
M Merklein .198, C Randick .129, A Randazzo .117, K Monroe .111,
C Gentry .100.
The last four are guards and guards commonly have rebounding numbers like theirs. Lyndsie Long's .230 is very good for a player of her size and by no means does she have to improve at rebounding or anything else. She's a fabulous player as is.
Harris's .270 was very good. Elmhurst may also ask Benson, Ney and McTeague to replace Bobruk's high level of rebounding. And, of course, incoming freshman and/or those under-100-minute players could help in '09-'10 as well.
Overall, Elmhurst looks good going into next season. Meghan Merklein finished her freshman year impressively and Kelsey Monroe got over her mid-season shooting slump. The Jays are not yet up there with Illinois Wesleyan, but they can reasonably aspire to it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 19, 2009, 07:22:51 pm
Carthage will be a different team next year, with the graduating of Katie Jarger, Lisa Gartelos, Shana Lieberman and Carlie Janowiak this spring.
The only returning players that you'd consider to be a center or power forward are Katherine Burshiem and Rosie Dorn. The rest are guards or small forwards, which might result in their offense being a little less half-court oriented. Maybe.
Dani Ripkey hit .397 of her threes this year and it sounds like she'll have a green light to fire away next season, based on some web site quotes from the coach. I think she should, too, from what I saw. If she plays 20:00, she should take 14-15 threes. (Yes, I like threes.)
They have a nice bunch of other mid-sized players, any of which could blossom, since there will be a lot of open playing time.
Cory Bazany had 20 FT attempts in just 60 minutes. That's sorta interesting, ain't it?


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 20, 2009, 02:34:00 pm
Congratulations to Claire Sheehan on making the 2009 NCAA Division III State Farm Coaches’ All-America Basketball Team.
Only ten players get that honor, nationwide.
IWU's web site article lists some of her basketball achievements, all adding up to a very fine career.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on March 21, 2009, 04:29:22 am
Congrats to Claire Sheehan on being named All-American.  A great honor.  And congrats to Christina Solari for Regional Player of the Year.  Also a great honor.  Coach Smith did a great job all year!

Looks like Wash U may go on and win it all on both sides -- from the Bracket of death on one side and surviving Shirk over the Titans on the other.  Too bad such tough games in the Midwest have to happen in round of 32 and 16 and 8, before Final Four trips. 

Congrats to IWU's national women's track athlete of the year, nationally -- wow, that's something too!  Ms. Rocca I believe. 

A good year for women's athletics at IWU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 22, 2009, 05:28:26 pm
Congratulations to Christina Solari, third team D3Hoops All-American.
She had a very good year. And, looking ahead to '09-'10, there isn't anyone you'd rather have than her, to build a team around.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 22, 2009, 11:12:29 pm
Since I had convinced myself that Christina Solari was a legitimate national POY candidate, I was initially disappointed she was 'only' third team.  But Pat does teams fairly strictly by positions (he's willing to fudge a bit, with 3 guards first team for the men, but shooting guards and small forwards are often pretty interchangeable 'wings' - see Keelan Amelianovich!), a stance I strongly agree with.  Since the first team center was Hillary Klimowicz, who took a team otherwise far inferior to IWU to the Final Four (and was named POY), and the second team center was Kristen Shielee, who as the sole significant senior led a bunch of freshmen and sophomores to the title, my disappointment soon evaporated (and she still beat out fourth team center Carrie Snikkers, an amazing talent for Hope).  While I don't know anything about the other front-court players named to the top teams, I have trouble believing they were all better than these four - I wonder if Pat considered calling any of them 'power forwards', or if they are all too clearly 'centers'?

What still surprises (and disappoints) me is that neither Kathleen Fidelia nor Claire Sheehan made even HM.  The CCIW has simply gotta step up in non-conference and post-season performance - we're getting the Rodney Dangerfield treatment! :(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 23, 2009, 09:55:00 pm
To follow-up, I can't even legitimately complain that we are being unfairly disrespected.

A men's AA listing or Top 25 poll with only one CCIW player or team would (most years) not be credible.  I long for the day when the women reach that level.

Recently the post-season has been IWU's responsibility, and we didn't go as far as I anticipated (sorry! :P).  (For the men, it is a very down year when the post-season is the responsibility of just one team.)  Millikin and Wheaton 'carried' this conference almost from its inception, and need to get back to 'national' status.  Elmhurst seems a potential 'break-out' team next year.  Time for Carthage, North Park, North Central, and Augustana to add to the national stature of the conference.

C'mon folks, the CCIW should be a top 5 conference in women's hoops!  They're consistently top 2 or 3 in men's.  Go get 'em, women's CCIW! :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 24, 2009, 11:37:26 am
Mr Ypsi, I agree with your post encouraging betterness among all the women's teams.
As a rare neutral observer, I'd like all of the games to be competitive and replete with excellent play.
Besides IWU, Wheaton and Carthage certainly had good years. Carthage finished at 18-9, despite playing only 8 home games.
North Central, Elmhurst and Millikin all were in "the middle of the pack."
Augie and North Park obviously had a tough time of it, going 1-13 in conference play. Augie has a lot more coming back in '09-'10 than NP does, and it's time for the Rock Islanders to get better results.
North Park's coaches have had less than a year in their positions and have a small handful of returning players, so if they improve next year, it would be a noteworthy accomplishment.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 26, 2009, 03:09:53 pm
I thought my last post might provoke a response from an Augustana partisan or two, but... silence.
Wheaton will probably be pretty good next year, by the way. They have a nice mix of players to bring back. Plus, no doubt some good freshman will arrive.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike on March 26, 2009, 04:01:08 pm
I thought my last post might provoke a response from an Augustana partisan or two, but... silence.
Wheaton will probably be pretty good next year, by the way. They have a nice mix of players to bring back. Plus, no doubt some good freshman will arrive.

Wheaton has some significant holes to fill and some injuries to overcome, but you are right that they have good players coming back.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on March 26, 2009, 07:09:59 pm
The North Park web site Athletics page has a nice article telling us what ex-Viking guard Laura Mount is up to these days.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on April 02, 2009, 06:58:34 pm
I was looking at the conference-games-only scoring leaders and noted that these are the top 10 scorers who can return for '09-'10 :
L Long               EC  18.9
C Solari            IWU  13.5
M McGuire          NC  11.3
M Merklein         EC  11.1
E Wildman       MILL  10.4
C Zeigler         MILL  10.3
J Davis               NC  10
K Fox                AUG  9.9
L Coldebella     NP  9.9
N Runge           AUG  9.4
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on April 06, 2009, 11:27:18 am
The conference-only non-senior rebounding leaders :
C Solari     9.9
J Errico      8
M McGuire 7.1
L Long      7.1
A Bowen   6.6
L Kasten   5.9
M Merklein 5.6
K Fox        5.4
E Wildman 5.1
K Burshiem 4.6
No, it didn't take me four days to figure that out.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thundermike on April 07, 2009, 11:49:25 pm
Just looking at those scoring and rebounding numbers, it would seem that next year's POY race will be between this year's winner Christina Solari and Elmhurst star Lyndsie Long
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 08, 2009, 12:01:46 am
Just looking at those scoring and rebounding numbers, it would seem that next year's POY race will be between this year's winner Christina Solari and Elmhurst start Lyndsie Long

I'd think they are definitely the leaders going in.  But I suppose we may as well wait for next year! :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on April 10, 2009, 01:39:36 pm
It will be interesting to see how much more North Central relies on Meghan McGuire next year, since their usual number 1 low post scoring option Brianne Parra won't be there anymore.
McGuire, by the way, shot .568 in nonconference games and .569 in CCIW play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Pro on May 13, 2009, 09:31:03 am
I'm an Augie Alum, and I'm a little worried about the current state of our WBB program! I just wanted to know how and when things are going to turn around. The current coach has but up some tough numbers in three years; 12-63 Overall & 5-37 in the CCIW...WOW! Coach Black put up better numbers than this and a change was made. Is it time to head in a different direction or will it turn around this coming season?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on May 13, 2009, 07:22:43 pm
cciw.org has the '09-'10 conference schedule. Saturdays will be different, with many 5:00 starts.
With one exception, there will be a women's game first, followed by a men's.
I don't particularly like that, since men's fans will likely seep in during the 2nd halves of games and contaminate the atmosphere.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: dansand on May 14, 2009, 08:47:58 am
I'm an Augie Alum, and I'm a little worried about the current state of our WBB program! I just wanted to know how and when things are going to turn around. The current coach has but up some tough numbers in three years; 12-63 Overall & 5-37 in the CCIW...WOW! Coach Black put up better numbers than this and a change was made. Is it time to head in a different direction or will it turn around this coming season?

I don't follow women's hoops too closely, but these are Coach Endress' recruits that I know of so far for next year:

Maggie Barnes, 5-7, Living Word Lutheran (Jackson, WI)
Dori Gills, 5-10, Holy Family (Broomfield, CO)
Kelsey Mikula, 5-6, Coal City
Gianna Pecora, 5-5, Downers Grove South
Lizzy Warnken, 5-5, Centaurus (Lafayette, CO)
Kendall Wolter, 5-10, DeForest, WI

Gills is probably the one that jumps out the most. 1st team all-state and MVP of the Colorado 3A state tournament as a senior, and 2nd team all-state as a junior. Her team won the state championship both years.

These are the additions that I know of so far. There may be more. Whether it translates to more success, we'll just have to see.

cciw.org has the '09-'10 conference schedule. Saturdays will be different, with many 5:00 starts.
With one exception, there will be a women's game first, followed by a men's.
I don't particularly like that, since men's fans will likely seep in during the 2nd halves of games and contaminate the atmosphere.

I'm pretty sure there are followers of both men's and women's basketball that aren't thrilled with the arrangement, but I think it's an unfortunate result of the current economic environment. Among followers of the women's game, I'm sure others share RogK's concern that the women won't be the main attraction. On the men's side, it'll be more difficult for coaches to conduct and monitor, and fans to follow, junior varsity progress.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on May 14, 2009, 01:38:56 pm
IWU's site lists these players under "Titan Class of 2013" :
Michelle Bilek, 5-9 guard, Mt. Prospect, Ill. (Loyola Academy)
Kenzie Floyd, 6-1 center, Mattoon, Ill. (HS)
Haley Kitchell, 5-7 guard, Davenport, Iowa (Rockridge HS)
Samantha Rubright, 5-9 guard, Bensenville, Ill. (Fenton HS)
My initial reaction to the above is to wonder if Rockridge HS was named in honor of the town that Sheriff Bart saved in the film "Blazing Saddles."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: HCACBBALL on May 15, 2009, 02:41:18 pm
I have seen the Gills kid play and she is a great get for Augie.  She will be a very good player when her 4 years is up.  I wonder how she got all the way to Illinois?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on May 15, 2009, 05:03:32 pm
IWU's site lists these players under "Titan Class of 2013" :
Michelle Bilek, 5-9 guard, Mt. Prospect, Ill. (Loyola Academy)
Kenzie Floyd, 6-1 center, Mattoon, Ill. (HS)
Haley Kitchell, 5-7 guard, Davenport, Iowa (Rockridge HS)
Samantha Rubright, 5-9 guard, Bensenville, Ill. (Fenton HS)
My initial reaction to the above is to wonder if Rockridge HS was named in honor of the town that Sheriff Bart saved in the film "Blazing Saddles."


Article on IWU's recruiting class...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/05/13/usports/doc4a0b7cf73cbf6033879241.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Pro on May 20, 2009, 08:39:51 pm
That's a good question about the Gills kid coming all the way to Augie. I hope she can make a difference for them next season. However, one player rarely turns around a program by themselves. Also, lets face facts, if Endress cant turn things around next season, they (Augie) should make a change regardless of the economy. Actually, it kind of bothers me that AD's keep people just to keep them. Sorry, I'm just mad about the way things have gone and I'm rooting for things to get better. What are some other opinions about this? IWU is doing a fantastic job and best of luck to them this coming year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Chi_areahoopsfan on May 26, 2009, 05:23:20 pm
I am a fan of the CCIW on the men's and women's side.  I always enjoy when you see someone impact a program and it is no wonder why some of the top programs have had people in place for some time.  I think that posting has been great because it gives all of us a voice, unforunately even the ignorant ones and those who want to start up some trouble.  I did get a chance to see every team play at least twice this year, most teams more.  I do agree that IWU and Elmhurst are going to be good next year.  IWU does have a number of good players returning and Solari is amazing.  They did however lose arguably the best backcourt in the country and that is not easy to replace.  They will still be fine though.  Thanks to Thundermike for doing all of that research in regards to who everyone is losing.  What is funny though is that everyone besides Elmhurst and Augustana is losing a top scorer and or rebounder and an all conf. selection, or two.  Everyone besides Augustana is losing at least 3 players who contributed, you could argue this point for Elmhurst's sake with only really losing Bobruk who was a heck of a player.  It doesn't sound like many of you actually have had a chance to watch Augustana play in the past 3 years.  The caliber of players on that roster is completely different from that on the team when coach Endress took over.  The comparison with coach Black is unfair considering he did well when he took over the program with a couple of 14 win seasons followed by a 15 win season in his 3rd year.  It quickly went downhill as his recruiting classes took over with a couple of 6 year win seasons including 0 wins in conference in his final year.  I think that the coaching situations are looking pretty good at Augustana, North Park and North Central but theses young coaches need more than 2 - 3 years to change something that was in the situation it was in when taken over, in fairness to those young coaches.  The addition of the Gills kid if she is an all stater will be the 4th in two years for Augustana's incoming class, that is pretty impressive.  Did they look great last year?  I saw them at NCU where they were getting blown out at halftime and went on a crazy run to bring in back in the 2nd half.  They looked like a bunch of freshmen to me.  They had 1 Senior and 1 Junior who was injured as a Sophmore and anyone who knows anything about the game knows how important experience is.  I think the conference is heading in the right direction and I will look for more Parody at the top next year with a couple of teams surprising some people.  North Park however is going to have to rely on a couple of young returners and whatever they have coming in next year but if they stick with her I think she will do a good job there. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on May 27, 2009, 01:28:15 am
I have to agree with "Chi" on this one. Endress took over a gutter program- as has Reese at North Park. Both have/had a mess to clean up. It was rumored at one point a year ago that North Park was inviting people to be on the team.
 I was at the North Central game that Chi was referring to and had the chance to visit with a former Augie player/alum at halftime- nothing but genuine praise for the staff. Augie had an exceptionally young team this season going up against a typically senior dominated CCIW. They were probably the only team to have 3 freshmen on the floor consistently. The incoming class will be Augie's third class and typically the most important. I know that the kid from Coal City is one that Mia was after as well. Let's not forget that Endress is the one who brought All-American Scheele to Edgewood. She knows talent, but freshmen need time to develop. I don't think that Mia, Beth, or Lori took over programs in the condition that either of these were in. Trust me old pro- you don't keep people because of the economy- you cut people. These coaches have the support of their respective administrations and there is no doubt growth in those programs on many levels that we don't even think about.
Oh yeah- and I typically just read through the posts- I don't post all that often anymore, but I read in one of your previous posts that you're an Eastern Alum Old Pro- not an Augie Alum.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: kate on May 27, 2009, 01:48:30 pm
WOW, Illinihoops4, nothing escapes your watch (although i noticed Old Pro's double alum status, too - maybe he's both) - anyway, got to get started with this afternoon's chores, but it's more fun to read these posts - is it November yet???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Pro on May 27, 2009, 06:16:46 pm
Two years yes, but after three, the numbers W/L speak for themselves. Don't get me wrong, I am rooting for Augie to turn it around. But lets face some facts! First, Endress, at the time, came from a conference that was pretty weak. It was either Lakeland or Edgewood in WBB and mostly Lakeland looking at the history. She did a good job there, but when that conference added more strength, neither team ros e to the top. Second, If she is as good of a recruiter as people say, then I seriously doubt Augie would be in this position after three years. Seriously, three years to get your own kids in your program seems a bit long. Third, its been very hard to watch the product out there on the floor. Augie even lost to the worst team in the CCIW last season! I find that hard to call that Conference Equity. Three straight 20 loss seasons is not going in the right direction. What if they struggle again next season, do you say that it takes 5-6 years to get a program up and going? Anyway, I disagree with that school of thinking. However, I wish Coach Endress and her program nothing but the very best. I'm sure with the ne additions that this will be really fun to watch.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on May 27, 2009, 11:04:34 pm
You do realize that Augie doesn't cut right? There were no players in that program to begin with and she was hired late in the year- she inherited the first class. You do the best you can with what you've got. What you are seeing are the growing pains of a young program- freshmen and sophomores. Kasten, Runge, and Howard were all solid freshmen, with the return of Fox and the addition of the Gills kid and it looks like a couple legit pg's- they'll be fine. They were in a lot more games this year than in the past- but Chi said it-experience is key.
Rebuilding isn't easy- especially at a school that costs almost $40,000 a year- kind of limits the recruiting pool- but again- they're getting players that they weren't getting before this staff got there.There are no shortcuts in rebuilding.You haven't heard the statement that it takes 5 years to build? Not everyone believes it, but it's true more often than not.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Illinihoops4 on May 28, 2009, 01:05:11 am
One last thing on this topic- I was taking a look at rosters for returners and I think it's also worth mentioning that Augie had a DI transfer that they lost a week or two before their first game. I don't know if it was injury or what, but her name is Gabi Hungerford. I found it in the augie media guide. You can bet that she would have made a difference.
Finally, I don't think it's up to any of us to criticize any coach too harshly. They aren't out there criticizing how we do our jobs. There's a good crop of young coaches in the league who I would have to bet are hitting the recruiting trail harder and working longer hours than those before them. I choose to support them so we'll just have to agree to disagree Old Pro.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on May 28, 2009, 01:34:14 am
"Gabi Hungerford led the state in scoring at 29.43 points per game. The 5-9 senior, who also chipped in 10.3 rebounds per game, helped Wild Rose to 19-3 record."
http://www.wisbca.org/news.asp?nid=23

Nice stats. She would have made a difference. Of course, just a bunch of wondering about the coulda should woulda, but thats a pretty good transfer. At Detroit, she averaged 5.2 pts and 3.1 rebs, in 30 mpg, but they weren't good at all.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Pro on May 28, 2009, 11:31:40 am
I will say this for the last time that my overall position is one of support for the coaches and that program. I have, in factstated as such in my postings before. That seems to be getting missed some how in all of this. I have stated real numbers based in fact and not loose conjecture. on my part I have known a number of coaches who have been removed for doing more at other institutions, than the current staff has at Augie. I hear what you are saying and respect you for it. This was not ment to bash or shame, but to focus on the facts. I'm thinking of those kids and institution and feel that they should have a more positive experience. Its hard not to listen to other parents, and Alums who watch the games, who communicate their frustrations. So, once again I am looking forward to Augie getting better next season and support the coaching staff 100%.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 31, 2009, 07:03:31 pm
Here's news on a D-1 transfer headed Carthage's direction:

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bbcsticksman on June 02, 2009, 11:30:45 pm
To HCACBBALL -  Dori Gills got all the way to Augie via I-80!  :D  I for one am very excited to see what Augie does this next season!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: HCACBBALL on June 03, 2009, 12:31:59 am
Funny stuff!!! I know of one school much closer on I 80 that really wanted Gills as well. Augie will be fine and start making some noise here soon.  Coach Endress works too hard for this not to happen.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: dansand on June 03, 2009, 09:35:36 am
I have seen the Gills kid play and she is a great get for Augie.  She will be a very good player when her 4 years is up.  I wonder how she got all the way to Illinois?
To HCACBBALL -  Dori Gills got all the way to Augie via I-80!  :D  I for one am very excited to see what Augie does this next season!
Funny stuff!!! I know of one school much closer on I 80 that really wanted Gills as well. Augie will be fine and start making some noise here soon.  Coach Endress works too hard for this not to happen.

Actually, Augie recruits quite a bit in Colorado. Assuming everyone returns, the women's hoops team will have four players from Colorado--Howard and Neal, plus the two incoming frosh. I know of four Colorado baseball players coming in next year also.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on June 03, 2009, 10:05:18 am
Good to see all the new contributions here.  Looking forward to next season!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bbcsticksman on June 03, 2009, 10:08:56 am
I wish I could take credit for the I-80 quote but alas a very good friend of mine came up with it.  I thought you'd get a chuckle out of it though so that's why I posted it.  What other school, if you can say, was interested in Dori?  I know of 2 other schools but they weren't on I-80.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jam8788 on June 22, 2009, 12:10:53 pm
Neils steps down as Edgewood College women's basketball coach:

http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/news/2009/6/16/WBB_0616090652.aspx?path=wbball
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on June 23, 2009, 07:23:03 pm
Elmhurst College is again hosting the summer league. Last evening, I went there and saw some of our well-known players, as well as some new ones.
At 6:30, a selection of IWU Titans played. Brittany Hasselbring did a lot of the point guard duties. She is the guard who transferred mid-year from Wash U. I expect she’ll do pretty well for IWU this year.
Kylie Castans scored a bunch in the 2nd half. She had a good freshman year and can be counted on for even more this fall.
The Titan roster will again be loaded with good players.
At 7:30, I observed Carthage vs North Central. Carthage had 10 players and subbed 5 at a time. They were aggressive attacking the basket and maintained good energy, despite the warm gym. Players aren’t identified other than a uniform number and I didn’t ask anyone, but I think it was the new transfer six-footer Diana Jacklin who played a well-rounded game. She’s very agile.
North Central has a flock of new Cardinals. Naturally, it will take some time to get accustomed to one another. Meghan McGuire was a major presence in the lane, as usual. A quick recovery is wished for their guard (an incoming freshman?) who hurt her ankle/foot last night.
At 8:30, I watched some of the Augie vs Elmhurst action, plus some of the game on the adjoining court, where Claire Sheehan, Mallory Heydorn and Colleen Caplice were playing.
Not only does the summer league provide a preview of at least half of the upcoming CCIW teams, but you can also appreciate the familiar moves of recent grads as they still enjoy the game.
Augie featured a strong new forward. Might have been the Gills girl mentioned in previous posts.
Elmhurst was missing many of their experienced players.
I left at about 9:00 to get an eastbound Metra, so I didn’t see the outcomes of the 8:30 games or the North Park players who were to be in a 9:30 contest.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on June 24, 2009, 12:52:12 pm
I have had an opportunity to watch Elmhurst over the past two weeks of the summer league.  Barring significant injury issues, this team is poised to compete with everyone in the CCIW this season.  With the addition of two capable transfers from the IIT program to go with the core of Lyndsie Long, Meghan Merklein, Kelsey Monroe, and Megan Ney, the Bluejays are in a position to compete well within the CCIW.  Merklein and Ney have been extremely impressive during the summer league thus far.  Additionally, C.J. Harris has also shown her consistent athleticism the games that I have seen.   Lyndsie Long played her first summer-league game last night and was scoring at will.  I am expecting more parity within the CCIW than we saw last season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on June 25, 2009, 11:34:57 am
Millikin is bringing in a large pile of new players, according to these articles:
http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2009/05/12/sports/millikin/1041151.txt
http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2009/04/20/sports/millikin/1040648.txt
The May 12 article starts off by saying that the current roster has no prototypical post player. Elise Wildman might disagree with that, assuming she's returning for '09-'10.
Another Pembrook is on the way to Decatur : Kayla's little sister Leah.
Coach Kerans sounds very pleased with the new arrivals (16 of 'em!).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Chi_areahoopsfan on July 06, 2009, 12:48:09 am
I just have to say that the reports from RogK are good and reliable as always.  Between him and Old Hoosier Baller I have seen some very insightful comments in regards to next season.  Elmhurst does look very good and I was thinking after watching them this past year that they would have a really good year this upcoming year.  Since there have been very few posts lately, I have been looking  back at past posts and I think that it is intriguing that when you look at the returning players statistics that Kristin Fox from Augustana shows up in each one.  If Augustana can make a move forward she might show up as one of the better guards in the CCIW this upcoming season(see the returning leading rebounders and look at the number of guards on that list).  She will be a senior but technically she was only a sophomore experience wise due to her not playing most of her sophomore year.  She could be an underrated player in the upcoming season, her last year.  I have been able to watch a couple of the Elmhurst summer league games as well and I think that it will be interesting to see these teams as the season starts.  I have not seen a team yet that has the core of there team playing in summer league so it is hard to tell at this point.  Rog, regarding the "new" kid for Augustana, the kid that I think that you are referring too as the possible "Gills" kid, I think that was Jessica..............and I forgot her last name, but she is from Morrison and was a freshmen at Augustana this year.  She played JV and suited varsity.  I did see her in HS and she was a tough HS player who could develop with some work and added strength.  She seems to be doing that and that is a credit to the current program at Augustana because she was definitely better a couple weeks ago than she was when I saw here in high school.  I have also seen the 6'2" kid that is going to North Central and she is pretty good.  She is limited in her movement but she will help them and will be a great compliment to McGuire.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on July 06, 2009, 04:20:22 pm
More games at Elmhurst tonight, tomorrow and Wednesday, plus playoffs next Monday through Wednesday.
Thanks for the info on that Augie player, Chi areahoopsfan; it must be Jessica Scott – she’s from Morrison, as you say.
A significant problem for Augie in ’08-’09 was shooting percentage of all kinds: FTs, 2s and 3s. In 25 games, their overall FG% was .370. Take out Natalie Runge’s 96/193 and Sarah Rachwalski’s 71/150 and you get .330 for the rest of the team.
Kristin Fox made 30% of her threes, which is a decent-to-good percentage (the equivalent of 45% two-point shooting). The team desperately needed one or more threats from the arc and Fox did her part.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on July 07, 2009, 01:47:17 pm
Saw some hoops at Elmhurst last evening.
IWU was up 24-21 at one point vs Concordia River Forest and later on, they were up by 42 (77-35 if I remember). Impressive effort by the Titans.
Next was a game featuring newly-ex-Titans Colleen Caplice, Claire Sheehan and Mallory Heydorn. Mal's dad was happy to again see a play that Mallory and Colleen have worked successfully for eight years (going back to high school). Claire did her usual dashes to the hoop for lay-ins, too.
More in a bit -- gotta get back to work.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on July 07, 2009, 03:22:02 pm
For the 8:30 game, I selected the Elmhurst vs St Francis (NAIA) contest, which got a little chippy at times. EC’s Kate Pilson, a strong 6-footer, stood her ground at both ends of the court, in the low post. The two arrivals from IIT also were very active; one is a 5’6”-ish point guard and the other a guard/forward, about 5’9”. Both are quick afoot and can dribble very well. I think they’ll be juniors.
Lyndsie Long shot the lights out, which delayed the game while repairs were made. (ha)
Kelsey Monroe is sidelined with a painful nerve problem in one leg. This has lingered for many months. Good luck to her on it getting healed or fixed somehow. The doctors are mystified by it.
At 9:30, I took in about half of Carthage’s game. Drewann Pancratz did particularly well, I thought.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on July 09, 2009, 07:22:01 pm
Saw some more summer games last night.
By the way, thanks to Elmhurst College for hosting the league again this year. Without the efforts of Todd and Jen Scheuerman, Coach Werner and the various Bluejay players that manned the scorer's tables, all of the games wouldn't have existed.
I spoke with North Park's Larisa Coldebella and she was pleased to report that as many as 15 players will be vying for roster spots for the '09-'10 Vikings. Some were playing in the summer league, but I am not able to identify any new ones. That'll have to wait until October, when rosters appear.
I saw part of the IWU vs Elmhurst game and was impressed by many players on both sides. Some Titans who didn't play a lot last year but are doing very well in the summer league include Karen Solari and Jessica Hinterlong.
EC's CJ Harris had superb energy and will be an interesting player to watch develop come November.
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on July 09, 2009, 07:50:06 pm
Saw some more summer games last night.
By the way, thanks to Elmhurst College for hosting the league again this year. Without the efforts of Todd and Jen Scheuerman, Coach Werner and the various Bluejay players that manned the scorer's tables, all of the games wouldn't have existed.
I spoke with North Park's Larisa Coldebella and she was pleased to report that as many as 15 players will be vying for roster spots for the '09-'10 Vikings. Some were playing in the summer league, but I am not able to identify any new ones. That'll have to wait until October, when rosters appear.
I saw part of the IWU vs Elmhurst game and was impressed by many players on both sides. Some Titans who didn't play a lot last year but are doing very well in the summer league include Karen Solari and Jessica Hinterlong.
EC's CJ Harris had superb energy and will be an interesting player to watch develop come November.
 

I realize it is meaningless for next season (I don't even know how the summer rosters compare to the in-season rosters), but since IWU and Elmhurst seem to be acclaimed as the favorites - WHO WON?? ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on July 10, 2009, 10:51:46 am
I had a ride back to the city late in the first half, so I don't know who won, Mr. Ypsi.
Also, I would say that IWU is by itself in terms of favorite to take the CCIW again.
I'd say Carthage and Elmhurst are in the 2nd tier. As good and experienced as they are, I think they must still improve more in order to beat IWU in Jan or Feb.
It sounds like many good new players are arriving throughout the rest of the league, so any of the other five teams might show marked improvement.
Can anyone tell us about any new Wheaton players?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on July 10, 2009, 02:06:15 pm
Actually, Elmhurst knocked off IWU on Wednesday night.  While I agree that the conference race will be tighter this year, I do not agree that IWU remains in a class by itself with respect to this coming season.  From my view, Elmhurst has the talent, size and strength to effectively compete at every position on the floor, and Carthage looks quite capable also.  Obviously, my perspective is driven by good fortune in terms of injuries, etc., but I do anticipate that IWU will have to work much harder some CCIW victories that came easy last season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on July 10, 2009, 03:25:44 pm
Thanks for the update, OHB.
Can you recall which Jays came through at the end?
Megan Ney was doing a lot of good work in the lane when I was there and Lyndsie Long was hitting shots from all over.
I'll agree with you regarding IWU to one extent: they'll need to work on a few things in terms of replacing the great contributions of Heydorn, Sheehan and Caplice. But, they have extraordinary depth, with size, speed, versatility and wide-spread scoring ability.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on July 10, 2009, 04:33:49 pm
The Jays were getting contributions from virtually everyone that was there during the second half.  In addition to Long and Ney that you mention, Rasheda, the new point guard from IIT, played stellar defense down the stretch and made some key plays offensively to help the cause.  As you also mentioned in an earlier post, C.J. Harris was all over the place throughout the game. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on July 10, 2009, 10:09:51 pm
How closely did the line-ups match the likely in-season line-ups for both IWU and Elmhurst?  Any significant omissions for either team?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on July 13, 2009, 10:59:31 am
From the personnel that I am familiar with, I believe that the core group for both teams was on the floor for much of the game.  While it is hard to draw any real conclusions from summer league play, it was a fun game to watch from a competitive standpoint.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on July 16, 2009, 03:05:20 pm
It was an interesting final night at the Elmhurst summer league.
In a semi-final game, Carthage topped IWU, 67-62 or 68-62. The first half was 50-39 in favor of the Lady Reds. The fast pace allowed many players on both teams to show their talent, which I enjoyed. The second half was more of a grind. The Titans made it close, but Carthage prevailed.
Dani Ripkey and Rosie Dorn led Carthage in scoring, if I recall correctly. Diana Jacklin scored some, too, and blocked several shots. She can just about match Christina Solari for agility and is of similar size. They should have competitive matchups this season.
Allison Groessl played very well. I was thinking she was Drewann Pancratz. If you’ve seen them just a few times, you could understand my confusion (I will have to study them next time). Cory Bazany, Katherine Burshiem and two new guards, Caris Alan and Lauren Hyser, all did well, too.
IWU played hard, but made a few mistakes here and there. And it may be the case that they need the contributions of Hope Schulte, Nikki Preston, Holly Harvey etc to be at their best.
Kylie Castans again gave indication that she could easily raise her scoring average from 7.4 as a freshman to 12 or better as a sophomore. She’s one strong kid, with a nice shooting touch. Hard to tell, though, what any Titan might average scoring-wise, since the shot attempts are spread around in their offense. Speaking of strong kids, the CCIW will get to know Karen Solari this coming season. As a “2-guard”, she has a different game than Christina does, but she’ll be very helpful in many facets of the game for the Titans.
Carthage, having exerted itself very much during the IWU game, was fairly worn out during the title game against a team of D1 players. They gave it what they had, but got clobbered by the D1 kids, who moved the ball very well and made at least 25 threes, I’d estimate. They must have hit 60 to 70% from the arc.
The Lady Reds, despite obvious fatigue, kept at it, admirably. Cory Bazany had as much stamina as anyone, and will be an important part of the ’09-’10 team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on August 05, 2009, 11:16:05 am
Good luck and congratulations to Casey Thousand, assistant coach at Carthage and now moving to Madison to be head coach at Edgewood.
Their first game will be at Elmhurst on November 16.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on September 08, 2009, 01:38:53 pm
The composite '09-'10 schedule has been posted:
http://www.cciw.org/winter_bball_w/0910_WBBComposite.htm

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 09, 2009, 11:21:57 am
The composite '09-'10 schedule has been posted:
http://www.cciw.org/winter_bball_w/0910_WBBComposite.htm

Double-check it carefully to make sure that your favorite team's games are all listed. I've already found a game that the composite schedule is missing: Trinity International @ North Park on Saturday, December 12 at 2 pm.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: badgerbimmer on September 29, 2009, 01:07:41 pm
One last thing on this topic- I was taking a look at rosters for returners and I think it's also worth mentioning that Augie had a DI transfer that they lost a week or two before their first game. I don't know if it was injury or what, but her name is Gabi Hungerford. I found it in the augie media guide. You can bet that she would have made a difference.
Finally, I don't think it's up to any of us to criticize any coach too harshly. They aren't out there criticizing how we do our jobs. There's a good crop of young coaches in the league who I would have to bet are hitting the recruiting trail harder and working longer hours than those before them. I choose to support them so we'll just have to agree to disagree Old Pro.

Gabi Hungerford won't be at Augie this year. She is listed as a 2009/10 recruit for the Madison Area Technical College.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 01, 2009, 06:15:08 pm
Cecily Aldridge, Kaitlin Brassil, Brooke Carlson (the only senior), Julia Robert, Bethany Wellbaum, Elise Wildman (the only junior) and Crystal Zeigler are the returning players for Millikin, as listed on the new Big Blue roster.
To them, add 16 newcomers. That should keep the coaches busy.
I expect they'll be a pretty good team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 07, 2009, 11:25:16 am
The new IWU roster is up: 17 players, including 5 newcomers (all freshmen).
Nine Titans are 5' 10" or taller.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 08, 2009, 11:38:27 am
Augustana's new roster has been posted.
They list 23, including 7 freshmen.
As has been discussed here before, they have a few things to work on. Shooting a higher composite two-point FG pct has to be a primary goal.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 09, 2009, 01:48:38 pm
Carthage's roster is up, as of yesterday.
Three potential returning players from last year's team aren't : Erika Share, Kaela Munster and Katherine Burshiem. Good luck to each of them as they go forth academically.
Fifteen players are there. The Lady Reds will do well, with several returning regulars, plus many others who were impressive in the summer games.
They will have to wait on Drewann Pancratz, who is currently starring on the excellent volleyball team. She was recently conference player of the week.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 09, 2009, 10:50:57 pm
I suppose I could wait 'til practice even begins ;), but, what the heck - expectations on the season! :D

I don't think I'll step on any toes saying IWU has the single best player returning in Christina Solari.  But what a group they graduated! :(

Only a fool (or mindless fan - to which I plead only partially guilty! ;D) would expect another 30-1 record (though 2 more games total would be great! 8)), but are they even still the favorites?  The bench seemed pretty strong, but there are some mighty big shoes to fill.

Unless I hear compelling arguments otherwise, I'll assume they are (which doesn't mean squat - the 2005-06 men's Titans were probably the most prohibitive favorites since the 1950s Wheaton teams, and didn't win).  Who are the likely challengers?  (I'm guessing Lyndsie Long's Elmhurst team oughta be good, but admit to a lack of knowledge of all but the 'superstar' players among the CCIW women.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on October 10, 2009, 05:06:07 pm
Unless I hear compelling arguments otherwise, I'll assume they are (which doesn't mean squat - the 2005-06 men's Titans were probably the most prohibitive favorites since the 1950s Wheaton teams, and didn't win)

Nope. Early '70s Augie men's teams, mid-'70s IWU men's teams, and -- especially -- the late '70s NPC teams were just as much "prohibitive favorites" as the '05-'06 IWU men's team, if not more so. And, while I haven't researched it at length, there may have been years when either the Wheaton or the Millikin women's team was an out-and-out, hands-down, no-questions-asked prohibitive favorite, since those two programs have dominated the CCIW from very early on.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 15, 2009, 01:44:54 pm
North Central and Wheaton have posted new rosters.
NC's is surprising, since prominent players Meghan McGuire (3rd team all-CCIW) and Jessica Davis are not listed. In fact, only two Cardinals are back from last year, Jackie Errico and Brittany James.
NC has 13 newcomers, ranging from 5'3" to 6'3".
Wheaton's dozen includes five newcomers. Laura Karsten, who joined after soccer last year and did quite well, will apparently not be back (but is still playing soccer).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on October 16, 2009, 03:39:30 pm
The CCIW website will host an online chat with the league's head coaches on both the men's side and the women's side on Wednesday, October 28. (http://www.cciw.org/winter_bball_m/2009chatstory.php) The women's coaches go first, followed by the men's coaches, with the preseason poll of the sport in question announced at the conclusion of that sport's chat. The league did the same thing with the football head coaches this fall, and it was pretty interesting. It's as close as we're ever likely to come to the preseason press conferences that D1 leagues hold.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on October 28, 2009, 01:41:24 pm
The coaches voted this morning and arrived at this preseason forecast:
Illinois Wesleyan
Carthage
Elmhurst
Wheaton
Millikin
North Central
Augustana
North Park
-- I can't argue with that prediction, although I'd switch Augie and NC, since NC will be so reliant on newcomers.
There will be a lot of playing time for new players throughout the league, so quite a few of them have a chance to have significant impact.
Very little information was revealed in the coaches' on-line chat. Wheaton's Lissie McAlvey and Laura Karsten each have season-ending injuries (knee, I think).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on October 28, 2009, 02:03:37 pm
I attempted to log into the chat, but my office computer would not cooperate.  From what I observed during summer league along with my knowledge of the rosters, I believe that the top three picks could be in any order in the first three spots.  It should be a very competitive season at the top, and I agree that many newcomers and sophomores will make big impacts this season for the stronger teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 02, 2009, 12:01:27 pm
Elmhurst and North Park now have rosters posted, so all eight teams' personnel are known.
OHB, your last post included your expectation that IWU, Carthage and Elmhurst will all have a shot at winning the conference.
Similarly, I'm hoping that all eight CCIW teams will have a reasonable chance to compete in any game. That wasn't true last year, but maybe the substantial influx of new talent throughout the league will allow it this time.
IWU is still the favorite, in my view; anyone who thinks they can beat them had better be working on ways the get through IWU's press, which can destroy a team that can't pass the ball quickly.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jshoops on November 03, 2009, 02:25:05 pm
Anyone headed to the IWU -DePaul exhibition game this (11/6/) Friday's 5:30 game at McGrath Arena?  I would like to see what IWU can do against a D-I team.  Jim 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 03, 2009, 04:31:21 pm
I'll probably get over to see that one, jshoops.
DePaul typically has 2nd and 3rd string players who would be top stars at the D3 level, so IWU doesn't figure to have much of a chance to win. But, it would be fun if the Titans can give 'em a good battle.
I'm pretty sure that it's against CCIW rules for any other CCIW coaches or players to scout an exhibition game / scrimmage, so only a neutral spectator such as myself should be there.
It's a different story starting November 15, of course.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 04, 2009, 11:36:44 am
DePaul beat NAIA St Xavier last night, 111-69. IWU should do better than that, but it will not be easy.
Excluding "team" rebounds, DePaul got 47 of the 70 rebounds. On Friday, the Titans will have to go after the ball with ferocity.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 05, 2009, 11:31:03 am
Saw North Park scrimmage against Aurora last night.
Ten of the fifteen Vikings suited up and played well. The other five may have been injured or under the weather.
Several of the newcomers showed signs of very good things to come.
The Vikings have better depth than last year, so none of them will likely need to play 36 or 38 minutes a game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Old Hoosier Baller on November 05, 2009, 11:39:01 am
I was at Elmhurst last night.  They scrimmaged the team of former D-1 players that won the summer league this past summer.  The Jays lost won half and won the other.  Very impressive outing for the first scrimmage!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 06, 2009, 04:37:52 pm
Pre-season AA selections now out.  Congratulations to first-team center, Christina Solari! :)

No one else from the conference named.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on November 06, 2009, 07:18:57 pm
IWU down 30 at half to the Blue Demons...

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/newLiveStats/Basketball/index.html?GAME_STAT_ID=455157&db_oem_id=15600


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 06, 2009, 09:24:20 pm
IWU down 30 at half to the Blue Demons...

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/newLiveStats/Basketball/index.html?GAME_STAT_ID=455157&db_oem_id=15600

And it has gotten worse.

Loved the attendance stat - 0! :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 07, 2009, 12:15:26 pm
IWU had some difficulties against DePaul (93-49). DePaul was better at all aspects (including height!) of the game, not surprisingly, considering they are in the top tier of D1 teams.
I talked to Mia Smith afterward and she was glad to have scheduled the game, despite it being a mismatch (my word, not hers). I think she found the game useful because it gave her more ideas on what to have her team work on, going forward.
Since it was a scrimmage, I won't say anything about individual players. Furthermore, most of went wrong could be attributed to the fact that DePaul was the opponent. No D3 team will present a challenge nearly as tough as playing the Blue Demons.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 07, 2009, 09:49:31 pm
When I congratulated Solari on her pre-season AA selection, I forgot to mention that I was somewhat surprised that Lyndsie Long didn't make even HM.

Were others also surprised, or am I over-estimating her at the national level?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 09, 2009, 01:33:21 pm
I wonder of anyone really knows enough about the thousands of D3 players to make a rational judgment on that topic; it's unlikely.
It could be that all 25 on the list are better than, or as good as Lyndsie is. But, one could also imagine that she is better than some on the list.
Regardless, we know that she's outstanding.
Another snub in the pre-season rankings is that our conference has exactly one team in the top 57. Will this inspire some our teams to win more definitively during the non-conference schedule?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: jshoops on November 10, 2009, 01:10:32 pm
We were also at Friday's match of IWU vs DePaul.  The D-1 team was bigger at the forwards/center by 4-6 inches and their guards were quicker to the ball at both ends of the court.  IWU looked a little gased and DePaul was able to deny every pass attempt, both to make the pass or catch the ball.  Even when IWU boxed out and was in position to grab the rebound off of the floor, a 2nd DePaul player was quicker to the ball.  DePaul is a ranked D-1 team and it showed. 

We had the opportunity to talk to the IWU players after the game, they were upbeat and understood this scrimmage will make them better down the stretch.  IWU kept hustling, hitting the floor and showed some heart.  I was  impressed with soph. Karen Solari's mental toughness and play as she took on some of those DePaul giants, drew some fouls and  made some nice passes. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: gordonmann on November 11, 2009, 02:01:13 pm
Illinois Wesleyan guard Holly Harvey has agreed to join our team of D3hoops "Insiders" and will blog about the 2009-2010 season on the Daily Dose.  Her first entry (http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2009/11/11/meet-the-insiders-holly-harvey/) is posted.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 12, 2009, 11:26:09 am
Welcome to D3hoops, Holly.
My compliments on the quality of your writing. Don't give out too many secrets to future opponents!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 12, 2009, 03:22:47 pm
Here’s a topic for discussion :
What is the best statistical measure of a team’s defense?
One possibility is points allowed per game. This stat, however, can be deceiving. If a team plays a slow game offensively (using most of the shot clock on most possessions, including resetting the offense after an offensive rebound (not a change of possession)), they will reduce the number of possessions in the game for themselves and the opposition, thereby reducing the number of scoring opportunities for their opponent. This shouldn’t be confused with having a good defense, although it may co-exist with it.
On the other hand, an offense that launches shots quickly will cause a significantly higher number of possessions to occur in the game, raising their own number of opportunities to score, as well as for the opponent. A fast paced game might have 70 or 80 possessions per team, while a slow one might have 45 or 50 per team. So, “points allowed” does not tell the whole story.
Another measure is to look at FG pct allowed, even breaking it out to check on two-point pct allowed and three-point pct allowed. This can be a revealing stat, too, but doesn’t consider how many 2nd chances the defense allows or how many turnovers the defense causes. Plus, some teams foul a lot, rather than permit high percentage shots, so they may have lower a “two-point FG pct allowed” than a team that is averse to fouling.
The most accurate measure of a defense, in my view, is points allowed per possession.
This method includes all factors put into defense (defensive positioning, capacity to cause turnovers, defensive rebounding, fouling as needed), distilling them into one number; it is not distorted by the pace of the game, where "points allowed per game" is impacted by the pace.
"Points allowed per possession” can be fairly used for comparison between any types of team: slow, fast or in between.
The flip-side, points scored per possession, is perhaps the best measure of an offense.
I realize that all stats are affected by a coach’s decision whether to always (or periodically) sacrifice offense to improve the defense or to sacrifice defense to improve the offense. In other words, any particular team has the ability to be better offensively, but at the expense of its defense, or vice versa.
I also realize that the number of possessions is not listed in a game's stats, but it could be figured out from the play-by-play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 15, 2009, 05:50:05 pm
North Park guard Kam Acree made a last second, game winning shot in the lane, as the Vikings tipped Benedictine 56-55.
Benedictine had built a 39-28 lead with 12:24 to go, but NP fought back. Hilary Kuhl poured in 12 of her 19 points during the late-game surge. The Vikings got solid effort from players throughout their roster.
They'll be a better team this year because they'll get scoring, rebounding, ball-handling and defensive contributions from a variety of players. They can sub much more than they could in the recent few years. Some individual stars may emerge, but development of depth will be important.
Augustana also opened today, taking it on the chin at Wash U, 71-36. Newcomer Dora Gills led the Vikings with 11 pts. That was a pretty tough opponent to face this early.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 17, 2009, 02:32:34 pm
Elmhurst won its opener 69-67 over Edgewood. The scores of the quarters demonstrate that it was an oddly fragmented game :
Edgewood 21 – 11 – 9 – 26
Elmhurst   27 – 9 – 19 – 14
During those first ten minutes, both teams tested the other’s ballhandling by imposing a full court press. The accelerated tempo resulted in 48 points on the board. I think Lyndsie Long scored 11 or 13 of her 19 during that stretch.
The action during the 2nd ten minutes was slower, with a scoring standoff, 11-9.
Elmhurst built a lead in the 3rd quarter, but couldn’t “put the game away.”
Edgewood regained its energy, piling up 26 points over the final 10:00.
Down by one with 27 seconds to go, Edgewood stalled for about 15 seconds and then tried to get through a crowded lane. EC’s Claire Gentry and Lyndsie Long (if I recall correctly) combined to steal the ball. At the other end, Rashida Joiner hit an FT and Maggie McTeague ended matters by grabbing the miss on the next free throw and scampering out of fouling reach.
Ceejay Harris and Meghan Merklein each scored 13 for Elmhurst and had well-rounded performances.
Former Carthage assistant coach Casey Thousand had a good debut as head coach for Edgewood.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 18, 2009, 08:32:43 am
There were few surprises as IWU rolled over Blackburn 95-43 at Shirk last night, giving coach Mia Smith her 200th victory.  The Titans came out of the blocks fast, running to a 24-6 lead after eight minutes.  The regulars from last season gave strong performances, led by Hope Schulte's 12 and Christina Solari's 11 points with a team-high seven rebounds.  First year players impressed as well: Haley Kitchell contributed another 11 including 3 three-pointers, while Mackenzie Floyd had six rebounds and Melissa Gardner (wearing Claire Sheehan's #10) displayed a pretty three-point shot somewhat reminiscent of Claire's.  The Titans showed good ball movement and were credited with 25 assists.

The Battling Beavers played hard but were clearly overmatched at this point in their season.  Natalia Gregory led their scoring with 14.

Looking forward to the weekend's tournament:  Wash U v. DePauw at 5:00, followed by IWU v. Central at 7:00.  Then on Saturday, games will be at 2:00 and 4:00.  With the IWU football team hosting Wabash in the first round of the NCAA playoffs, it will be a busy day in and around Shirk on Saturday!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 18, 2009, 01:34:22 pm
Nice to hear from you, Hoosier Titan; what did you think of Karen Solari?
I think we'll be talking a lot about the Solari Sisters this year, not just nationally-known Christina.
To supplement your report, I'll note that Carrie Williams had a productive 9 minutes last night, with 4 rebounds and 8 points, not missing a shot.
In other CCIW games, Carthage got out to a 37-12 lead, sailing past Monmouth 75-51. All five Lady Red starters scored in double figures.
Carthage shot over 60% on twos and almost 40% on threes. Not bad.
Wheaton was upended by UW La Crosse, 65-57. Breanna Bohlen and Lissie McAlvey were in double figures for the Thunder and Kelly Brooks grabbed 9 rebounds in 19:00. Good to see that McAlvey is playing : one of my recent posts said she was out for the year injured -- oops, that was last year.
I remember from her freshman year that she's a multi-talented player. She'll definitely be valuable for Wheaton.
UW Platteville outscored Millikin, 68-61. The Big Blue successfully fought back from a double digit deficit, but the Wisconsinites prevailed.
Crystal Zeigler tallied 17 (and 8 rebs) in just 23:00, before fouling out. Elise Wildman had 11 pts and 12 rebounds. Looks like 29 turnovers "did in" Millikin.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 19, 2009, 12:13:13 pm
Nice to hear from you, Hoosier Titan; what did you think of Karen Solari?
I think we'll be talking a lot about the Solari Sisters this year, not just nationally-known Christina.
To supplement your report, I'll note that Carrie Williams had a productive 9 minutes last night, with 4 rebounds and 8 points, not missing a shot.


Rog,
You're right, both Karen and Carrie deserved a mention.  I wrote that post in a hurry and though about them before I saw your post. 

Carrie indeed had a fine night.  She's always impressed me as having a good shot and a sense of when to use it.  I think she could play some valuable minutes for the Titans.

Karen Solari, like Christina, is a smart player who values all aspects of the game.  She's a much different player; she'll play mostly at a guard spot.  She has a three which will start to drop in games the way it does in warmups, she's strong and quick, and she gets a lot of rebounds due to good positioning and boxing out.  All great strengths, and some of them are hard to teach.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 21, 2009, 11:24:10 am
Busy day here in B-N:  Football playoffs (IWU v. Wabash at noon), followed by IWU-Wash U. women's game at 4:00 and IWU men v. Johnson and Wales at night.  How's a professor supposed to get any grading done? ;)

Here's a link to the Pantagraph story about last night's IWU women's game v. Central.  (The photo with the story in the paper has Holly Harvey incorrectly labeled as Jessica Hinterlong; it's in the online photo gallery).  The 39 Central turnovers tell the story of the IWU press, with 25 of those turnovers coming in the first half.  The Titans shot 60% in the first half and 28% in the second; Mia Smith rested her starters for tonight's rematch with Wash U.  Karen Solari went down hard and returned first with ice and then a wrap on one ankle.  I have no word yet on the nature or seriousness of that injury.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-wesleyan/article_97f692c8-d65a-11de-a1ba-001cc4c03286.html

The DePauw-Wash U. game was interesting; frankly, it was pretty sloppy on both sides.  Both teams shot under 40% for the game.  I'm sure the Bears will be up for the Titans tonight, though.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 21, 2009, 11:46:54 am
I saw North Central win their opener, 70-68 over Blackburn.
The Cardinals got valuable contributions from many players.
Christine Karl, a very athletic big guard, led the way with 20 pts and 10 rebs.
Today they face a very difficult task, Simpson College.
The CCIW won five out of six yesterday. That's a good sign.
I'm soon heading down to the U of C where Elmhurst plays Coe (the Conspirators?).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mactitan on November 21, 2009, 09:27:15 pm
IWU beat No. 1 Wash U. 58-53.  This was a good win, but U-G-L-Y.  Everyone on the court looked like they were in their first game of the season.  A lot of turnovers, a lot of missed shots, and a lot of questionable calls.

55 combined turnovers with only 21 steals.  Neither team made a third of their shots.  IWU chucked 21 three's, and only made 5 (23%).  Even the tip-off was ugly.  10 seconds of scrambling for the ball before a scrum on the floor produced a second tip-off.  I'm not sure if I had ever seen that before.

If these are two of the best teams in the nation, it is clear there is a lot of improvement to make over the course of a season.  Still, this is a good win for the Titans.  They never trailed, and made a few big shots when they needed it, and answered the Bears comeback bid by making their free throws down the stretch. 

Solari played a very smart second half.  She was not spectacular, and had five turnovers. She had three fouls in the first half and had four for most of the second, but played solid defense.  She also led the team with 16 points, 13 rebounds and four assists. 

There was a pretty good crowd, especially after the football game ended.   I'd guess between 600-800 people.  At one point in the second half after a timeout, they got on their feet and got pretty loud.  IWU responded with a nice little run to extend the lead.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 21, 2009, 11:42:35 pm
IWU's win over Wash U was definitely not pretty, but I'm very satisfied with it.  My father used to say that when a good team looks bad, chances are the other team had something to do with it.  After last spring's Elite Eight loss to Wash U at Shirk, the Titans had something to prove, and they did.

The Titans' press was very effective against the Bears, producing 31 turnovers and 14 steals (compared to 24 Titan turnovers and 7 Wash U steals).   Solari was very effective, as mactitan noted.  Hope Schulte had 10 points, 9 rebounds, 4 steals, and a monster block that got the crowd on its feet, while Kylie Castens contributed 11 points.  Brittany Hasselbring (who transferred to IWU from Wash U last year) started the game and made good contributions at both ends.  

If the Titans had made even a reasonable number of wide-open shots, the game would not have been close, but they shot only 30% for the game, as noted by mactitan.  They were also badly outrebounded; missed shots and no rebounds is usually a bad combination.

There were quite a few questionable officiating calls in both directions.  At best, the officiating was uneven; a great deal of contact under the boards was let go only to have touch fouls called.  

If these are two of the best teams in the nation, it is clear there is a lot of improvement to make over the course of a season.  Still, this is a good win for the Titans.  They never trailed, and made a few big shots when they needed it, and answered the Bears comeback bid by making their free throws down the stretch.  

Having been to almost every Titan game for several years now (and thus having seen Wash U several times, along with other ranked teams), I'm quite confident that these are two of the best teams in the nation.  I'm sure the two teams' paths will cross again; due to geography, they're almost bound to.  But this was a great start to the season for the Titans.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 22, 2009, 12:30:01 am
Per the box score, Karen Solari did not play - any word on her condition?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 22, 2009, 09:39:45 am
Per the box score, Karen Solari did not play - any word on her condition?

Karen was dressed and shooting before the game.  She had a small wrap on the ankle at first; I think it was gone by halftime.  That's all I know, and that doesn't look too bad.  Nikki Preston hasn't been playing yet due to a concussion, but is expected back soon.  She too was dressed and shooting last night.

Here's the Pantagraph story.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-wesleyan/article_9cdb2b84-d71b-11de-a5de-001cc4c002e0.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwu70 on November 22, 2009, 07:45:03 pm
Ugly or no, that was a big win for the IWU women.  I saw them play three times during my recent US visit and must admit I think they are certainly one of the best teams in the nation.  The depth is impressive and the pressure defense is just outstanding, unrelenting.  They have the speed and the bodies to do it.  Hassellbring is a very good addition with alot of quickness and toughness.  Loved watching her play.  What impressed me most is the technique IWU has to pounce on the pick and roll, with both players jumping over the screen to trap the dribbler.  Unless the opposition has an outstanding ball-handler and point guard, this defensive tactic is going to lead to tons of turnovers all year.  And, the players at the back of the press are pretty smart, know when to go for the steal and when not.  Yes, if the Titans had shot a decent percentage, esp. on 3s, this game with Wash U would not have been at all close.  From the first look, compared to last year, I think this team is actually better, tougher, and more athletic, quicker, than last year's team.  We'll see as things progress, but I hope they have a grand season, win the CCIW and get deep into the tourney again.  The ultimate goal would be a home/Shirk Final Four.  I think this team has that potential if they continue to improve, continue to develop their unique style of play, especially on the defensive side.  I wish them well and will be following along all along the way . . .
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 23, 2009, 07:19:58 pm
Congratulations to Jackie Errico (North Central) for being the first conference Player of the Week.
I attended the Saturday/Sunday action at the U of Chicago, where the host women's team won impressively.
Elmhurst had a rather unpleasant time of it, being defeated both days. They did have a good 2nd half on Sunday, playing with enthusiasm and vigor that wasn't there in the first half. I think a few interesting things may have been said in the locker room at half time.
Augustana got a win in Colorado. Natalie Runge led 'em with 20 pts and 9 rebounds.
Wheaton won the Bluffton tournament. Lissie McAlvey had 20 pts, missing just three shots.
Tomorrow's IWU game vs Olivet Nazarene will probably not be as interesting as I had earlier anticipated. ONU was held to 62 Saturday at Point Loma (San Diego) Nazarene, shooting 26 pct and recording only 9 steals.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 23, 2009, 11:18:06 pm
IWU beat No. 1 Wash U. 58-53.  This was a good win, but U-G-L-Y.  Everyone on the court looked like they were in their first game of the season.  A lot of turnovers, a lot of missed shots, and a lot of questionable calls.

55 combined turnovers with only 21 steals.  Neither team made a third of their shots.  IWU chucked 21 three's, and only made 5 (23%).  Even the tip-off was ugly.  10 seconds of scrambling for the ball before a scrum on the floor produced a second tip-off.  I'm not sure if I had ever seen that before.

If these are two of the best teams in the nation, it is clear there is a lot of improvement to make over the course of a season.  Still, this is a good win for the Titans.  They never trailed, and made a few big shots when they needed it, and answered the Bears comeback bid by making their free throws down the stretch. 

Solari played a very smart second half.  She was not spectacular, and had five turnovers. She had three fouls in the first half and had four for most of the second, but played solid defense.  She also led the team with 16 points, 13 rebounds and four assists. 

There was a pretty good crowd, especially after the football game ended.   I'd guess between 600-800 people.  At one point in the second half after a timeout, they got on their feet and got pretty loud.  IWU responded with a nice little run to extend the lead.

A VERY belated response, I admit.  But is it possible to beat the #1 ranked team in the country and have it be U-G-L-Y?! :D

THAT sort of ugly I can live with! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 24, 2009, 11:03:23 pm
Just back from a very lightly attended IWU game v. Olivet Nazarene at Shirk (most of the students had gone home for break).  I wouldn't have thought a game where my team won 108-83 would be painful, but this one was.  The Tigers try to push the ball on every possession, take lots of threes, and press.   ON subs incessantly, sending in entirely new lineups with nearly every stoppage of the clock.  Tonight it seemed to be difficult for them to get into any sort of rhythm or flow, and on this occasion they were simply outshot by the Titans (52% to 40%).  Both teams had a nearly astronomical number of turnovers (41 for IWU, 42 for ON).  The Titans set a school record for rebounds with 64 (Kylie Castens had 8, Christina Solari 7, and first-year Mackenzie Floyd 6).

Castens led all scorers with 21, followed by C. Solari's 20 and Sarah Cotner's 14 in a strong performance off the bench.  The entire Titan team got a chance to practice press breaking and ball handling; Holly Harvey, Hope Schulte, and Brittney Hasselbring (with a 6/1 A/TO ratio) were outstanding here.

I know this is a style of basketball; it wasn't a full-fledged Grinnell approach but it was too close for me (I'm closer to the philosophy of Norman Dale in Hoosiers:"How many times are you gonna pass the ball before you shoot?" "Four, coach."  "How many?"  "Four.")  Many more games like this would make me a full-time soccer fan!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 25, 2009, 04:23:26 pm
IWU proved that it can handle a frenetic tempo just days after succeeding in a slowish contest. The Titans' versatility is quite commendable.
I hope several CCIW teams will schedule Olivet Nazarene next year; it's an opportunity to give one's players additional confidence as they confront an unusual opponent and (hopefully) find ways to deal with it. I remember a few years ago when Wheaton hosted ONU and fell well behind in the first half. The Thunder had a great 2nd half comeback and came out on top. They were absolutely delighted, as happy as I've seen any team be.
In some other league action last night, reigning CCIW player of the week Jackie Errico continued her fine play with a 24 pt, 13 rebound game in a ten point North Central win. Christine Karl had 21 and 8.
Lyndsie Long poured in 33 pts in Elmhurst's 28 point win. She hit 14/19 FGs (3/3 threes) and 2/2 FTs. Also grabbed 11 rebounds.
I attended the Dominican at North Park contest, which was close for quite a while, but the visitors took it, 65 - 52.
Larissa Coldebella led NP with 15 pts. Sarah Peterson had 13 rebounds and 5 blocks. Lyndsey Thompson had 10 pts, 7 rebs and 3 blocks.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 25, 2009, 05:25:32 pm
Quick note--both Karen Solari and Nikki Preston played last night and showed no ill effects of earlier injuries.  A good night for all hands on deck.
The Titans are back in action on Saturday afternoon when #14 UW-Stevens Point comes to town; the following week they take on Chicago and later in December UW-Whitewater.  Those who urged Mia Smith to play a challenging pre-conference season have certainly gotten their wish!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 27, 2009, 11:36:16 am
During the Dominican - North Park game, I counted the number of possessions. In the 1st half, it was 41 (give or take one) per team and in the 2nd half there were 45 or 46 per team. My count wasn't exact, because I used up my fingers and toes (ten each) pretty early in each half and nobody around me let me count with theirs. (ha).
My Nov 12 post regarding Points Allowed Per Possession (reply 1151) contained some guesses on the number of possessions in slow or fast games. Those guesses are in need of revision.
The Dominican - North Park game, with about 86 possessions, was at a fairly normal tempo, with no stalling. So a really fast-paced game (like ONU-IWU) would probably have maybe 110 possessions per team.
A slow game might have 60 per team, not 45 - 50.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on November 27, 2009, 02:39:10 pm
Rog, there are a few different ways to calculate # of possessions in a single boxscore, or a season cumulative boxscore.  The one I have used is:

Possessions = FGA - Off Reb + T.O. + (.475 * FTA)

Last season on the men's board, Dan Sand posted offensive and defensive Points per 100 Possession throughout the season...


Overall   Offense   Defense
---------------------------
Team       P/100P    P/100P
Augie...... 108.7      93.0
Carthage... 109.7     106.2
Elmhurst... 113.3     103.9
IWU........ 109.3     104.0
Millikin...  98.2      97.7
NCC........ 109.3      99.5
NPU........ 103.8     114.1
Wheaton.... 114.2      93.5
                  
CCIW      Offense   Defense
---------------------------
Team       P/100P    P/100P
Augie...... 104.0      94.1
Carthage... 109.4     109.2
Elmhurst... 112.0     105.1
IWU........ 111.5     112.3
Millikin...  97.3     106.4
NCC........ 108.5     103.9
NPU........  99.5     120.4
Wheaton.... 108.3      97.9
---------------------------
CCIW Avg... 106.3     106.3


Factoring in possessions is definitely the best way to evaluate a team's offensive and defensive efficiency, in my opinion.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 27, 2009, 03:11:22 pm
Thanks, Titan Q.
That .475 of FTA is an approximation, though.
In the game I cited, that formula undercounts the possessions : 73 for Dominican and 76 for NP, when they had 85 or 86 each.
Maybe my game had an abnormally large number of missed first shots of 1-and-1's that ended possessions. And maybe it lacked "and ones".
I'm assuming that I'm defining a possession correctly, that it continues until the other team starts one.
Theoretically, one possession could take up an entire half, given a repeating series of missed FTs followed by offensive rebounds.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 28, 2009, 01:10:15 pm
A little more on the topic of possessions : I may have counted more possessions in that game than were registered by the stat crew. I think there were a few scrambles for the ball that resulted in brief possessions, only to be coughed up to the other team; so, turnovers may or may not have been charged. Can't have a turnover if possession wasn't established. 
Also, the decision of when a shot clock reset is appropriate or whether a possession existed for two or three seconds can be matters of judgment, even in an NBA game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on November 28, 2009, 07:14:36 pm
The matchup between Illinois Wesleyan (#6 in the preseason d3hoops poll) and Wisconsin-Stevens Point (#23 in the same poll) was an outstanding one, with the Titans eking out a 84-80 win at Shirk today.  It looked as though the Titan run-and-jump press would be too much for the Pointers, with IWU pulling out to a 10-point lead in each half.  But the Pointers pulled back and took a 39-37 halftime lead; they also led by about six with two minutes to go (this is approximate, as the box score isn't up as I write this).  Judicious substitutions and the deep Titan bench made the difference.  The two Titans who have just returned from injuries, Karen Solari and Nikki Preston, were absolutely key in this victory.  Preston led the Titan scoring with 19, including lots of free throws down the stretch to seal the win.  K. Solari had 15 points, including a key basket in the last minute with an assist to sister Christina, who had 17 points and 11 rebounds of her own.  Holly Harvey added 10.  Britta Petersen was outstanding for the Pointers, leading all scorers with 21, while Cassie Bandow had 15 (including 3/4 on 3's) and Josi Schultz 12.

This one could easily have been a playoff game--two well-coached teams fighting hard and just refusing to lose.  It was a pleasure to watch.  Well done to both teams and coaches!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 28, 2009, 08:40:17 pm
Carthage emerged from Hyde Park this afternoon with a 64-62 over the host U of Chicago.
The U of C is highly ranked and deservedly so, as they are a very strong team.
Their soph guard Meghan Herrick had a dazzling 2nd half, scoring 24 in 20:00, almost enough to turn things around. This was the first of 4 straight games for them against CCIW teams. Wheaton gets them next and the Thunder will have their hands full.
As for the Lady Reds, it was an excellent team effort.
Let's start with Katie Klemke: she was the major factor in Carthage's 28-16 first half, leading the scoring, playing sharp defense and handling a lot of the dribbling chores.
Next, Diana Jacklin: she held U of C star Molly Hackney in check and grabbed 9 rebounds, including a big one in the waning seconds.
Then there's Rosie Dorn, who turned in an all-around good performance, most of the time with a bloody chin (bandaged of course), suffered when a sizeable opponent crash-landed on Rosie's head. That didn't stop her.
The other starters, Heather Gilmore and Dani Ripkey, played very well, too.
Ripkey made a key three late in the contest, preserving the lead.
Everyone who served in a reserve role also contributed importantly : Cailee Corcoran, Taylor Tondelli, Drewann Pancratz (whose brother played in the men's U of C win, to begin the afternoon), Allison Groessl and Cory Bazany.
It was a big win for Coach Bernero and his team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 28, 2009, 08:46:08 pm
Augie got its 2nd win, 60-50 over Webster. Kristin Fox tallied twenty. Lani Kasten had 6 steals.
Elmhurst won at Olivet (Mich.).
North Park and North Central each got trounced.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 30, 2009, 01:14:20 pm
Two CCIW games yesterday :
Augie improved to 3-2 with a 63-61 win over Heidelberg. Kristin Warnken hit a couple of key shots late in the game and topped the Vikings with 15 pts. Natalie Runge added 14 pts and Lani Kasten led both teams with 10 rebounds and 6 assists. Others contributed as well, of course.
Millikin outscored St Ambrose 69-53. Elise Wildman led the Big Blue offense with 24 pts (9/11 FG, 6/7 FT). Crystal Zeigler added 15 pts. Brooke Carlson was an effective conduit, with 8 assists.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on November 30, 2009, 02:19:50 pm
Congratulations to the taller of the Solaris, CCIW Player of the Week.
She was her usual excellent self in two impressive IWU wins.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: gordonmann on November 30, 2009, 10:39:29 pm
IWU's Holly Harvey has her latest "Insider" entry posted to the Daily Dose.  Check it out here:

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2009/11/30/insider-first-goal-met/
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 01, 2009, 11:27:30 am
Wheaton topped Clarke last night in Dubuque, 75-70. Annie Bowen shot 100%, scoring 16 in 20:00.
Carthage beat Lake Forest 78-59.
Heather Gilmore had 5 steals and 6 assists. She leads the early stats for the CCIW with 4.6 assists per game and a 1.77 assist/turnover ratio.
Diana Jacklin made 11 of 16 FGs on her way to 23 pts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 06:26:18 pm
New poll is out.  The Titan win over then #1 WashU (and over then #23, now #15 UWSP) has vaulted them all the way to #1.  Not sure I approve - hope they can handle that big a target on their backs. :-\

Carthage jumped from 0 to 40 points (#31), no doubt largely due to beating then #14 (now #22) UChi, plus 4 other teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 01, 2009, 08:42:20 pm
In their first game as #1, IWU downed previously 6-0 Missouri Baptist, 75-62.

I've been unable to find out anything about MoBap (as their website calls them!), so don't know whether this is impressive or not, but I'll take it! :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 02, 2009, 12:53:32 am
The Titans' first game of this season in the #1 spot, against NAIA Missouri Baptist, found them sluggish and prone to trying to make hard plays rather than take the straighforward ones available.  The officiating wasn't great--it seems that officials this season are letting everything go under the baskets, then calling little touch fouls.  But, of course, a great team has to find a way to surmount that.  The Titans led by seven at halftime and finally broke the game open in the second half. 

The MoBap stat sheet after the game looked very dodgy:  the entire Titan team was credited with one assist, to Melissa Gardner; she alone had more than that.  No individual stats for IWU are available on the MoBap website as of 11:30 tonight.  Christina Solari had (I think) 23 points and around a dozen rebounds.  The key players in the decisive run were the Solari sisters, Hope Schulte, Nikki Preston, and the guard trio of Gardner, Holly Harvey, and Brittany Hasselbring.  The score with about three minutes to play was 75-55 and it could have been run up more.  Instead the Titan bench players went in and gave up a good chunk of the lead to arrive at the final 75-62 score.

It wasn't pretty in St. Louis tonight, but as former IWU men's coach Scott Trost used to say, "Never apologize for a win."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bflong on December 02, 2009, 11:48:32 am
Hello all,

I am a first timer to this posting board.  I have been paying close attention to everything you guys have been saying, and finall decided I should get an account and become part of the 'posting up' family! Just wanted to comment on a couple of key teams in the conference this season... It is obvious that Illinois Wesleyan has continued to pick up their game from last year, as they cruise to the #1 seed in the recent poll.  Congratulations to them!!! I am very impressed with the Carthage team and how well they have been playing this season.  It was good to see them move from 0 to 40 votes after a couple big wins early in the season!  Any news on the statistics from the Missouri Baptist and Wesleyan game from last night?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 02, 2009, 12:21:01 pm
Hello bflong, and welcome to the boards!  We need more active posters.

It looks as though the stats program used by a lot of NAIA schools only gives team stats for visiting teams--there was a MoBap men's game after the women's game last night and the same limited statistics are given for the visitors.  There was a stat sheet circulating amongst the coaches--I saw it--with a bit more information about individuals than is on the MoBap website.  As I said last night, categories such as assists, turnovers, and steals didn't look very accurate, but shooting and rebounding for individuals were listed.  I've made some inquiries and will let you know if I find out anything.

The win by Carthage over Chicago was indeed impressive.  Chicago visits Wheaton tonight, and then the Titans (both women and men) go to the Ratner on Saturday.  This should give us all an opportunity to do some pre-conference comparisons. 

Again, welcome, and please give us updates on any games you see!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bflong on December 02, 2009, 02:15:19 pm
Full game statistics are posted on the CCIW website... pretty impressive numbers put up by Christina Solari! 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 02, 2009, 02:40:14 pm
Yes, the IWU SID, Stew Salowitz, has entered the individual stats for last night's game into our stats program so they are up on iwusports.com now.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 03, 2009, 03:30:13 pm
Saw the 49-42 Wheaton loss to the U of Chicago last night.
Both teams played rugged, quick defense. It was not going to be a smooth-flowing high-scoring game anyway (coaches Roussell and Baker usually favor defense over offense), but the refs made a point to call every conceivable instance of travelling, especially in the 1st half. For a while, I thought Expedia had sponsored the game. U of C's Molly Hackney was whistled for travelling 6 or 7 times in the 1st half, all of them iffy. To her credit, she did not lose her cool over it.
The shooting by just about everyone on both teams was awful : a composite .405 on 2FGs (28/69), .114 on 3FGs (4/35) and each team was under .500 at the foul line (11/25 and 12/26; great free throw defense?).
Even though the game was far from being aesthetically pleasing, the players were trying hard.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WUH on December 03, 2009, 09:43:33 pm
Saw the 49-42 Wheaton loss to the U of Chicago last night. Both teams played rugged, quick defense. It was not going to be a smooth-flowing high-scoring game anyway (coaches Roussell and Baker usually favor defense over offense), but the refs made a point to call every conceivable instance of travelling, especially in the 1st half.

I only recently began to appreciate women's basketball and it only happened after I began to follow teams that play rugged and quick defense.  I have met a lot of other fans who agree.

It is a shame, though, when the referees take over.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 05, 2009, 08:59:21 am
Live video, IWU @ Chicago (2:00pm)...

http://athletics.uchicago.edu/mensbasketball/mbk.htm

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 05, 2009, 11:42:14 am
Another good win for Carthage last night, 58-47 over previously-unbeaten Calvin.
Diana Jacklin topped the scoring with 21 (8/14, 5/6).
Missouri Baptist outscored Millikin 81-68. For the Big Blue, Elise Wildman had 22 pts and 9 rebs. Kaitlin Brassil scored 21 pts on just 10 shots.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 05, 2009, 04:40:32 pm
IWU 64
Chicago 57

It was nice to be able to watch this game via Chicago’s live stream.

What a luxury to be able to win a game on the defensive end.  That’s what the Titans did today at the Ratner Center.  IWU trailed most of the 1st half, and by as much as 8 in the opening minutes of the 2nd.  With their offense sputtering a bit, the Titans kicked their pressure defense into high gear and forced Chicago turnover after turnover, and bad shot attempt after bad shot attempt.  That led to the Titans getting open looks from the beyond the arc, as well as in the paint…and it really seemed to wear Chicago out.

This is such a good IWU basketball team because they’re good offensively (with so many weapons), but absolutely outstanding defensively.  And man do the Titans play hard.

Maybe not a pretty win, but an impressive road win in my book.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 05, 2009, 04:54:16 pm
Q,

I tried to watch the game, but gave up after about five minutes.  The video stream was so jerky I was starting to get a headache.  I assume your stream must have been better than mine?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 05, 2009, 08:56:57 pm
To echo Titan Q's report, it was a hard-fought win for IWU today.
Chicago was up 41-32, but then the Titans outscored them 24-5 over the middle ten minutes of the 2nd half.
To compliment any individual Titan would necessitate listing the whole bunch, as they all did well.
That it was an impressive win means that the opposition was formidable, which it was. If these teams meet in the NCAAs, it would be another tough battle.
Wash U topped Elmhurst 77-60. LL scored 24 on 18 shots for the Jays.
Franklin got past North Central 73-61. NC used only 7 players.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 06, 2009, 12:21:03 am
Q and Rog have already made good points about the IWU-Chicago game.  Just a few additional thoughts:

At halftime, I noted that Chicago had handled the Titan press about as well as anyone has, and that the press would have to be a little tighter if it was to produce game-changing results.  Well into the second half, that finally happened, and the tighter D led to the 24-5 Titan run.  The team stats show it:  24 Chicago turnovers to 10 for IWU; 15 IWU steals to 4 for Chicago, and team assist/turnover ratios of 16/10 for IWU and 11/24 for Chicago.  This was offset somewhat by Chicago's 40-28 rebound advantage.  There was much unhappiness in the IWU fan section about the foul count early in the game; at the 13:00 mark the foul count stood at 5 for IWU and 0 for Chicago.  But those evened out; in the end 16 fouls were called on IWU and 17 on Chicago, and both teams shot 68% on free throws.

Chicago is a big, physical team who make the most of their advantages.  It was a close and hard fought game that should make both teams stronger.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 06, 2009, 08:53:39 am
Here's the Pantagraph story on the IWU-Chicago game.   Quick quote:  Mia Smith says Chicago is the best team IWU has played so far.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/women/article_e0ec7ab6-e220-11de-9fe5-001cc4c002e0.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 06, 2009, 09:33:36 am
Q,

I tried to watch the game, but gave up after about five minutes.  The video stream was so jerky I was starting to get a headache.  I assume your stream must have been better than mine?

I had no trouble at all with it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 06, 2009, 06:40:40 pm
Here's the Pantagraph story on the IWU-Chicago game.   Quick quote:  Mia Smith says Chicago is the best team IWU has played so far.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/women/article_e0ec7ab6-e220-11de-9fe5-001cc4c002e0.html

Hmmm ... I wonder if quotes from a third-party coach ever make it to bulletin boards?  I have a feeling the WashU coach may post that one to rile up the troops! :D  And/or the Chicago coach may use it for a confidence boost.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 06, 2009, 07:29:06 pm
Here's the Pantagraph story on the IWU-Chicago game.   Quick quote:  Mia Smith says Chicago is the best team IWU has played so far.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/women/article_e0ec7ab6-e220-11de-9fe5-001cc4c002e0.html

Hmmm ... I wonder if quotes from a third-party coach ever make it to bulletin boards?  I have a feeling the WashU coach may post that one to rile up the troops! :D  And/or the Chicago coach may use it for a confidence boost.

The Wash U coach might well want to use it to rile up her troops before playing Chicago!  I predict the Maroons will do some serious damage in the UAA this year.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 06, 2009, 08:35:09 pm
I was just looking over all the results on the Top 25 thread.  At 6-0, including wins over TWO ranked teams, I predict Carthage will join IWU in the rankings this week (I'll take a stab at #21).

Anyone recall the last time the CCIW had two teams in the top 25 at the same time?

Next goal: (at least) two teams in the post-season! :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 07, 2009, 11:20:13 am
Millikin lost by 5 to Luther yesterday, 62-57.
Cecily Aldridge had a sharp game, with 21 pts (6/11, 6/6), 3 steals and 9 rebounds.
Elise Wildman was limited to 9 FG attempts in 38:00 of play, which makes me think that Luther packed the lane defensively. Millikin made 8 of 20 2FGs for 16 pts, 10 of 29 3FGs for 30 pts and 11 FTs.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: iwumichigander on December 07, 2009, 06:24:37 pm
Q,

I tried to watch the game, but gave up after about five minutes.  The video stream was so jerky I was starting to get a headache.  I assume your stream must have been better than mine?

I had no trouble at all with it.
But Q - you were not using two tin cans connected by string like Mr Ypsi!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 07, 2009, 06:33:14 pm
Q,

I tried to watch the game, but gave up after about five minutes.  The video stream was so jerky I was starting to get a headache.  I assume your stream must have been better than mine?

I had no trouble at all with it.
But Q - you were not using two tin cans connected by string like Mr Ypsi!

Hey, don't you badmouth my Trash-80! ;)

(I wonder how many posters are even old enough to recognize the reference? ;D)

And my computer, while in need of replacement pretty soon, is NOT quite that old! :P
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Moser on December 07, 2009, 07:04:10 pm
I was just looking over all the results on the Top 25 thread.  At 6-0, including wins over TWO ranked teams, I predict Carthage will join IWU in the rankings this week (I'll take a stab at #21).

Anyone recall the last time the CCIW had two teams in the top 25 at the same time?

Next goal: (at least) two teams in the post-season! :)

The 2007-08 preseason poll had Millikin #13 and Illinois Wesleyan #15. The last in-season Top 25 with multiple CCIW teams was week 13 of the 2006-07 season (Wheaton #23, IWU #24).

The CCIW has had multiple teams in the NCAA tournament 9 times, but just once this decade (2007; Wheaton, IWU). 4 CCIW teams reached the tournament in 1996 (Millikin, Wheaton, IWU, Carthage).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 07, 2009, 07:13:06 pm
I was just looking over all the results on the Top 25 thread.  At 6-0, including wins over TWO ranked teams, I predict Carthage will join IWU in the rankings this week (I'll take a stab at #21).

Anyone recall the last time the CCIW had two teams in the top 25 at the same time?

Next goal: (at least) two teams in the post-season! :)

The 2007-08 preseason poll had Millikin #13 and Illinois Wesleyan #15. The last in-season Top 25 with multiple CCIW teams was week 13 of the 2006-07 season (Wheaton #23, IWU #24).

The CCIW has had multiple teams in the NCAA tournament 9 times, but just once this decade (2007; Wheaton, IWU). 4 CCIW teams reached the tournament in 1996 (Millikin, Wheaton, IWU, Carthage).


Welcome aboard, and +k! :)

Good to have an historian - or at least someone ambitious enough to check the archived polls and CCIW.org! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 07, 2009, 07:45:38 pm
Hey, don't you badmouth my Trash-80! ;)

(I wonder how many posters are even old enough to recognize the reference? ;D)

And my computer, while in need of replacement pretty soon, is NOT quite that old! :P

Maybe not so much old enough, but geeky enough?  Unfortunately, I'm both.  :D

I agree, very impressive and informative first post from Moser.  Welcome!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Moser on December 07, 2009, 08:02:55 pm
Mr Ypsi, the question you posed struck my curiosity so I looked up the answer. And when enough time passed without any other responses, my desire to share the information overcame my desire to continue along in my perpetual lurk-but-don't-post state.

I watch my fair share of CCIW hoops, so I figured I might be able to chime in with some insights here and there.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 08, 2009, 11:11:42 am
My welcome to you, too, Moser.
Are there any players that you've been impressed by so far this year?
By chance, have you seen the Augie or Millikin women yet?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Moser on December 08, 2009, 12:06:10 pm
My welcome to you, too, Moser.
Are there any players that you've been impressed by so far this year?
By chance, have you seen the Augie or Millikin women yet?

I have not seen Augie or Millikin. I have seen Wheaton, Carthage, and IWU.

Breanna Bohlen from Wheaton is very good, almost certainly a first team all-CCIW player at some point in her career. Diana Jacklin is really tearing it up for Carthage, that was a huge pickup for them.

I'm not sure how to read the upcoming conference season. I could easily see IWU running the table again, but could also see a team like Carthage or Elmhurst stepping up with an upset.

The fact that Wheaton, Carthage, and IWU have all played Chicago gives a general idea of where those teams are in relation to each other. Had Wheaton knocked down a few more open looks or free throws, the CCIW could easily be 3-0 against the Maroons.

I would say that at this point the top 4 from the preseason poll looks pretty accurate as far as where the teams will fall come the end of February.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 08, 2009, 12:25:29 pm
Haven't found the result of Augie's game scheduled for last night in Springfield. Maybe it was postponed due to travel conditions.
Congratulations to Diana Jacklin, new CCIW Player of the Week.
You may be right about Bohlen becoming an all-conference player, Moser.
I've seen her once (vs Chicago) and got the impression that she's energetic and talented.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Moser on December 08, 2009, 01:54:15 pm
New Top 25:

IWU #1
Carthage #20
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 08, 2009, 02:00:00 pm
I was just looking over all the results on the Top 25 thread.  At 6-0, including wins over TWO ranked teams, I predict Carthage will join IWU in the rankings this week (I'll take a stab at #21).

Not bad, Mr. Y!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 08, 2009, 06:56:51 pm
I was just looking over all the results on the Top 25 thread.  At 6-0, including wins over TWO ranked teams, I predict Carthage will join IWU in the rankings this week (I'll take a stab at #21).

Not bad, Mr. Y!

Thanks!  Guess I slightly underestimated the Lady Reds - or else the pollsters! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Moser on December 09, 2009, 12:41:13 am
Kylie Castans leaving IWU:

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-wesleyan/article_47fbf852-e475-11de-a9b3-001cc4c002e0.html

How does this impact the Titans going forward? I assume Nikki Preston will start now.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 09, 2009, 01:31:59 am
Kylie Castans leaving IWU:

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-wesleyan/article_47fbf852-e475-11de-a9b3-001cc4c002e0.html

How does this impact the Titans going forward? I assume Nikki Preston will start now.
Just heard about this today and thought it wouldn't be announced until the weekend.  I have no insider knowledge about who will start, but Nikki seems like the natural candidate to me as well.  Karen Solari and Melissa Gardner have been the others getting a lot of time at that spot as well.

Kylie's a great player and she will be missed; however, the team is deep and I have confidence that others will fill the gap.  I join Coach Smith in wishing Kylie well at ISU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 09, 2009, 11:29:33 am
That's sad news. I'll miss watching Kylie play hoops, which she is very good at. Plus, she has a nice smile.
Good luck to her at ISU. It was also fun talking basketball with her dad several times at the Elmhurst summer league and at regular games.
By the way, it turns out that Augustana did play Monday at RM-Springfield, getting edged 59-57.
Natalie Runge (15, 11) and Lani Kasten (11, 11) each had a double-double.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RogK on December 09, 2009, 01:37:37 pm
Here are the current 3FG attempts per game:
Millikin 21.3
Wheaton 19.5
IWU 18.3
NC 16.2
Carthage 14.7
Aug 14.4
Elmh 12
NP 11.2
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bflong on December 09, 2009, 10:52:27 pm
Elmhurst was the only winning team tonight! Both Wheaton and Augie lost, while Elmhurst hit some key free throws down the stretch to beat a fairly good team (Nebraska Wesleyan).  Meghan Merklein was on fire in the first half putting up 16 of her 21 points in the opening mark.  Lyndsie Long had another solid performance putting up 31, after taking very few shots in the opening half (6ts).  The Jays forced several turnovers and many of the players got to see playing time on the road which is always a good sign!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on December 12, 2009, 09:43:52 am
A story from a Peoria TV station on the Titans...

http://centralillinoisproud.com/content/video/?cid=90282
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 12, 2009, 10:21:03 am
A story from a Peoria TV station on the Titans...

http://centralillinoisproud.com/content/video/?cid=90282

Nice story; thanks for posting it.

Only one small quibble:  IWU women's teams are not "Lady Titans."  They are Titans, period.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Hoosier Titan on December 12, 2009, 02:36:10 pm
The Illinois Wesleyan Titans take on the Fighting Saints (!) of St. Francis University (NAIA) at Shirk today at 5:00.  Last year the Saints gave the Titans their closest call of the regular season, with the Titans pulling out their only lead in the final seconds.  I was not at that game, but those who were described the Saints as big and physical.  This season they are 3-6 to date, with recent losses to two NCAA Division I schools, Chicago State and Western Illinois, and one to NAIA DI #17 McKendree.  Hard to know exactly what to expect, but the Titans would do well not to overlook this game (not that I expect that to happen).

Probable lineup for the Saints, based on their previous outings:

20 Storm, Jacqie  5'9" g       12.2 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 19/12 A/TO
04 Sears, Anna    5'8'  g       11.8 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 18/38 A/TO
34 Baird, Kaci      6'0"  f       11.2 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 9/21 A/TO
23 Fazio, Kellie    5'10" f         8.0 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 11/22 A/TO
03 Carls, Katie     5'5"  g        6.9 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 30/27 A/TO

5'10" Nikki Preston is the most likely to replace the departed Kylie Castans in the IWU lineup today.  Nikki is averaging over 10 points a game coming off the bench