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Title: WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 14, 2005, 05:46:40 pm
Ann and I already have had this discussion. This is the national championship and her spring coaches should understand that it takes priority. They will have their own championship opportunities later and will get her full attention at that time.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Loesel on March 15, 2005, 07:40:11 am
So it's decided.  RMC SID goes to the Final Four.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMC SID on March 15, 2005, 01:47:44 pm
RMC SID is working on it . . . things are looking good for Saturday.  Friday should be no trouble.

Need a baseball scorekeeper!  I have people in mind.

I love ALL of my R-MC teams!  They are all special to me (insert tears here).
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 15, 2005, 04:07:31 pm
Ann, when I was an SID, that fell to the relief pitchers. :-)
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: d-mac on March 15, 2005, 04:50:37 pm
And then there were FOUR... or really eight!
This weekend... the best of the best are crowded
But before then... we tell you who we think are the best... on "Hoopsville"!!!


Eight teams in the nation can see where the road finishes. But who is going to get past the final two exits?

Millikin took out Calvin in a hard fought battle... to earn their way to the Women's Final Four. So is this Illinois team ready to go? Coach Lori Kerans will let us know. Her #6 ranked Big Blue Ladies are the lowest ranked team remaining, but still battle tested and ready for their semi-final game with Southern Maine.

The #1 ranked Scranton Lady Royals sure had a tough road to drive as they took on last year's championship finalist, Bowdoin College in the Elite Eight. Scranton showed why they are the #1 team in the nation, knocking off the Polar Bears. So do the Lady Royals have anything left in the tank for Randolph-Macon in the semi-finals? Coach Mike Strong answer that question and if that #1 ranking adds any pressure.

On the men's side, Rochester is still marching... even though mid-way through the season, most thought they had no chance. But their star player returned... and they knocked off not only last year's Final Four finalist Amherst in the Sweet 16... but then took out a suddenly hot SUNY-Potsdam team in the Elite Eight. Now, Rochester has been here before, and Coach Mike Neer has the experience. But how does his team prepare for a tough Final Four match-up with Calvin.

Calvin - people warned us about. They are the only team left in this men's tournament that has played every game to get here. First Wheaton, then Aurora, finally Mississippi College fell to the side of the Knights. Then came MIAA conference foe - and champion Albion. Which Calvin disposed of 60-52... to take their drive to Salem... for the first time since they won the national title in 2000.
So, what will Coach Kevin Vande Streek use from that last title run to help his team get past Rochester and into the title game? We will ask him that and much more (including if he saw Albion's buzzer beater Friday night? Jared did!).

And then there is York College (PA)... 11-15 last year... flew under many radars most of the year... and now they are in the first Final Four in the school's history.
Coach Jeff Gamber has traveled to Salem before, but never with a team playing. Now, after 28 years... he in Salem as a participant. But, this trip is completely new to Coach Gamber and the Spartans, who until this year had never won a NCAA Tournament game. We will talk to the coach of York and see if he has yet to come down from the high of beating Kings on Saturday to lock up the trip to Salem.

So come join us online and LIVE from 8-10PM Eastern!
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: I know my ABCs and 123s! on March 16, 2005, 09:10:58 am
RMC SID,
I suggest using the players that rarely ever get into the game. That seems to be the popular pick here at LC. :-) A baseball socrebook and scoreboard (unless you guys ahve one of those cool flashy scoreboards like you would find at some minor league parks) shouldnt be all too complicated, i'd imagine.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMC SID on March 16, 2005, 09:41:13 am
Our coach doesn't wish to use players for scoreboard and announcing.  Scorebook, maybe.  Even though I'll be interested in seeting that book when I get back!

Still working on it -- keeping the faith.

Thanks for the support.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMC Hoopster on March 16, 2005, 11:03:01 am
Silva makes 1st team all region for 3rd year in a row!  

Congrats to her and Michelle Orten both for making all region squads.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Loesel on March 17, 2005, 07:16:28 am
Pat ran a big story on the outer page about the Randolph-Macon team, which in the Final Four for the first time. It's the first time for any women's ODAC team. Playing at the Batten Center should be close to a home court advantage for the Yellow Jackets.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Loesel on March 17, 2005, 08:18:30 am
There was a very nice story about coach LaHaye in the Rockport (Maine) Courier-Gazette.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on March 17, 2005, 04:46:00 pm
Jim,

That was a very nice article about coach LaHaye.  I have only been following women's odac bball for about 6 years and I would have thought the she would have a little better winning percentage. I guess it just shows how much RMC has dominated recently.  RMC is all I have heard about the past several years.

Was RMC ever at a different level when she was the coach?
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 17, 2005, 07:20:29 pm
emufan,

I can't speak to her CONFERENCE record, but the article says she's 324-247 overall, and 185-85 the past ten years.  That would mean she was 139-162 over the first 12 years - I'd think that was a different level!  :-)
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 17, 2005, 07:30:53 pm
The story from Maine evidently didn't include THIS year - according to the d3hoops.com story, her career record is now 353-248 (but presumably that doesn't change the math on her first 12 years - just means her record for the last ELEVEN years is a sparkling 214-86).
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Loesel on March 18, 2005, 07:45:06 am
Good luck today, Yellow Jackets.  I've got a new picture in my profile that was taken right after the finish of the ODAC championship game.  A similar picture would be appropriate after a victory today.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Rip on March 18, 2005, 07:56:45 pm
Jackets win!!! Playing for it all tomorrow.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on March 18, 2005, 09:56:29 pm
WOW,

That is awesome for RMC and the ODAC!!! Congrats to the yellow jackets.  

The ODAC winning in the tourney is good for ALL ODAC teams.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Beau Tye on March 18, 2005, 10:23:13 pm
...and good for all the South teams, as well!!!

Congrats to RMC...Beat Millikin!!!

~ASC Fan~
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Loesel on March 19, 2005, 08:01:24 am
WAY TO GO, Randolph-Macon.

One more to go for a national championship banner.  You can do it!  

(I see no reason to change the profile picture of Yellow Jackets celebrating.)
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on March 19, 2005, 06:35:48 pm
Congatulations on a great season for RMC!

Second is disappointing since it means you lost the final game, but it is still one helluvan achievement!  They just ran into a team that either played out of their minds today, or was severely under-ranked!

Note that Millikin's 3 all-tournament players were two juniors and a FRESHMAN; the CCIW MOP this year was a FRESHMAN from Wheaton.  I think the CCIW ladies may finally be catching up with the national status of the men.

How do RMC and the rest of the ODAC look for coming years?  Was this a one-time thing for a magical RMC team, or will the ODAC also begin catching up with the national stature of the men?
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Loesel on March 19, 2005, 08:30:41 pm
My congratulations as well to the Yellow Jackets of Randolph-Macon for carrying the ODAC banner all the way to the championship game.  You did us proud.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMC SID on March 19, 2005, 11:40:25 pm
The support of the ODAC -- fans of women's basketball, coaches and players from other teams, of course R-MC students, faculty, staff, alumni, parents, and friends -- was unbelievable this weekend and the whole postseason.  From RMC SID, thanks for helping to make it an incredible ride!

Also, many thanks and congrats to Virginia Wesleyan and the NCAA for an incredible event.  It was very well-organized and enjoyable for all, I think.

And to the Yellow Jackets -- as with all of our teams at R-MC, I couldn't ask to be associated with a finer group of student-athletes and coaches.  Special thanks to all of you.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMC SID on March 19, 2005, 11:55:32 pm
Also congrats to Millikin, a very good team that played a very good game in the DIII championship.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on March 20, 2005, 07:59:24 am
Congrats to RMC!  No one else in the country can say they made it to the championship game.  The ODAC was well represented.  The ODAC needs to make it a habit to get teams into the Elite Eight in my opinion.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Gordon "Marco Scutaro" Mann on March 20, 2005, 11:40:08 am
RMC fans did a great job supporting their team this weekend.

And special thanks to John Irby who did a fantastic job taking photos for the school and our site.  All the women's photos on this site from this weekend are his.

The RMC Community is lucky to have him.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Loesel on March 23, 2005, 05:50:25 am
Huge congratulations to Megan Silva for making the D3hoops FIRST TEAM All-American squad.  See AA teams

Huge congratulations also to the entire Randolph-Macon team, which finished the season in SECOND place in the D3hoops poll.  See final poll
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on April 06, 2005, 09:46:42 pm
Eastern Mennonite University women’s basketball junior forwards Stephanie Mathews and Amanda Renalds each were named First Team All-State in the college division as announced by the Virginia Sports Information Directors Association on Wednesday.

Junior guard Megan Silva of ODAC champion and national runner-up Randolph-Macon College was a repeat winner of the VaSID State Player of the Year award
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on April 06, 2005, 09:47:24 pm
Congrats to everyone!

VaSID College Division All-State Awards

VaSID Player of the Year: Megan Silva, Randolph-Macon
VaSID Coach of the Year: Carroll LaHaye, Randolph-Macon

First Team All-State
Megan Silva, Randolph-Macon
Tara Toland, Ferrum
Candace Bryant, Christopher Newport
Amanda Renalds, Eastern Mennonite
Stephanie Mathews, Eastern Mennonite

Second Team All-State
Salem Shaffer, Randolph-Macon
Michelle Orton, Randolph-Macon
Randi Jones, Marymount
Brandi Cochran, Hollins
Netagia Foreman, Shenandoah

Honorable Mention All-State
Katrina Scruggs, Mary Baldwin
Jessica Hunsinger, Washington & Lee
Caroline Wesley, Lynchburg
Katy Herr, Bridgewater
Jennifer Prewitt, Randolph-Macon Women’s College
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Loesel on April 07, 2005, 07:15:30 am
Very nice representation by the ODAC.  Congratulations ladies.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on April 12, 2005, 07:55:45 pm
Is anyone else surprised to see the Lynchburg coach resign?
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: I know my ABCs and 123s! on June 03, 2005, 03:59:04 pm
emufan,
Not surprised at all. I always liked Richie, but from the teams marginal success or lack of during his tenure (most especially this past season) and with his antics during games (I could list more reasons, but I'll stop here), I had a feeling that he would have been fired if he didn't resign.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: I'm a lama on June 16, 2005, 04:42:36 pm
Stephanie Tobey Named New Lynchburg College Head Women’s Basketball Coach

           LYNCHBURG, VA - The Lynchburg College athletic department announced Thursday that Stephanie Tobey has been named the new head women’s basketball coach.  

           Tobey was the head coach at Lasell College (MA) for the 2003-04 and 2004-05 seasons - a member of the Division III North Atlantic Conference (NAC). With a young team that had no seniors on the roster, the Lasers finished last season with an 11-14 record. Tobey also assisted with the Lasell women’s lacrosse team for one season. She served as an assistant coach at Brown University for one year before moving on to Lasell.  

           “We are very excited to have Stephanie on board as our new women’s basketball coach,” said Dr. Jack Toms, Lynchburg director of athletics. “With her enthusiasm, dedication and drive, we think she will be able to build on the success the program has enjoyed in recent years.”

           Tobey was a two-sport athlete at Bryant College (RI), graduating in May of 2002 with degrees in business administration and communication, and carried a psychology minor. She was a captain of both the basketball and lacrosse teams, playing center for the Division II basketball program.

           "Our women will be some of the best conditioned athletes physically and mentally and we welcome the challenge of anyone in the country,” said Tobey.  “From day one, the expectations will be set high. You can expect us to run the floor, control the half court, and be relentless on defense. Defense will be the center of our system, if we can defend, we can compete with anyone. We also want to bring a determined attitude to the classroom and basketball court."

           The Hornet women finished 8-17 in a rebuilding 2004-05 season after winning 30 contests the previous two campaigns.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78RMC on June 25, 2005, 12:48:28 pm
The Lady Jackets will be even stronger this season.  Most starters return and they'll be even bigger this year with 6-2 and 6-5 transfers coming in.  Plus the freshmen are also strong.  Should be an exciting season for the Jackets.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Guru of Major Champ. Predictions! on July 15, 2005, 02:01:22 pm
McElwee Resigns Women’s Basketball Coaching Position
Richard McElwee has resigned as head women’s basketball coach after two years at Eastern Mennonite University.

David King, Athletic Director at EMU announced McElwee’s resignation Friday, July 15.
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on July 15, 2005, 06:04:35 pm
Scottie,

I think you've just set a new record (with the possible exception of banned posters who were trying to deceive): you have 3 of the last 4 posts - under three different names!

(To avoid slipping up on who you are this month, I shall henceforth address you as Scottie!)
Title: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Scottie Too Hottie on August 15, 2005, 01:22:39 pm
Cabonney,
Let's make it 4 of the last 6 posts under a different name! :-)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on September 06, 2005, 06:04:24 pm
EMU has named Kevin Griffin as Head Coach of Womens basketball. 

He has a solid core of ladies coming back, and I know it is late in the recruting year, however, I would think that his biggest task would be to make sure Laura Ludholtz is in school and healthy.

Good luck to the Lady Royals as they try to get back to the NCAA's very soon.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on September 10, 2005, 10:08:41 am
EMU will broadcast all games online this year.

Here is the anticipated schedule.

 http://www.emu.edu/athletics/broadcast/
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jimmy Mad on September 15, 2005, 11:35:06 pm
I would think that his biggest task would be to make sure Laura Ludholtz is in school and healthy.

I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on September 16, 2005, 06:21:23 am
Why not?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on September 20, 2005, 09:15:21 pm
It amazes me how some people come on this site and then don't even back up what they say.

I make a legit comment about trying to get a former all-odac player back on the team and the only answer I get is to not get my hopes up.

If you have the information, share it, don't start a conversation and then not back it up.

Is Laura still hurt, not eligible?  What is the deal?

Back your statement up.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jimmy Mad on September 23, 2005, 03:25:32 pm
1) I don't think she is enrolled at EMU

2) The players told me they don't anticipate her returning
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on September 25, 2005, 02:47:45 pm
Knowledge,

Thank for updating me.

It helps when we have all the facts instead of 1-liners to go by.

Although, I don't see it happening because of what you just said.  It has happened in the ODAC, where players transfer in for the second semester.  A Guilford player did that several years ago, Courntey Hill( All-ODAC). So it never hurts to ask.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: upper90 on October 07, 2005, 04:37:32 pm
R-MC looks HOT this year...I can't WAIT for the season!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on October 14, 2005, 09:39:11 am
Coach Stephanie Tobey is about to start on a conquest to become the best D3 coach EVER...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on October 19, 2005, 08:00:41 pm
How long will the "conquest" take? Think she'll "conquer" RMC first time out of the box?  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on October 29, 2005, 07:26:36 am
RMC sitting pretty in d3hoops.com's preseason poll  :)  may you have lots of luck & no injuries, ladies!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on October 31, 2005, 04:00:52 pm
Coach Stephanie Tobey is about to start on a conquest to become the best D3 coach EVER...

new attitude: the players are responding well to her, I hear.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on October 31, 2005, 04:03:13 pm
the players really seem to like the new head coach and assistant coach. they really seem to be working hard and have a prretty good attitude.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on October 31, 2005, 04:09:44 pm
It's time for a turn around. Best D3 coach ever is way too enthusiastic (but somebody's got be best! - why not try), but she seems headed the right way with new enthusiasm from the players.   :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on November 18, 2005, 07:14:22 pm
Welcome to Basketball Season! It looks like the RMC Women are not having too much of a problem with Christopher Newport as I am listening on the web!

There was a College Basketball Section in today's Richmond Times-Dispatch that seemed to be missing this dominant RMC Women's BBall Team. The following is a letter I wrote to the Sports Editors of the T-D that I thought some would be interested in!

Dear Mr. Stan Cary and Ms. Heather Tucker, etc.

I was very excited to receive the newspaper this morning and find an
entiresection dedicated to College Basketball. However, as I was coming
to the end ofthe section I am very disappointed that you ?forgot? the
most dominant DivisionIII team in the area AND THE NATION! The
Randolph-Macon Women's Basketball Teamis ranked 2nd in the NATION by D
III News and D3Hoops.com and 1st in theODAC!? Megan Silva, a senior
guard from right here in Richmond (I know you love that) is an
All-Americanagain ranked preseason 1st team All-American. These are just
some of theiraccolades from this season, which has not even begun!

Last season they finished in first place in the ODAC regular season, won
theODAC tournament, earned the most wins in the history of the program,
became thefirst women?s team in the ODAC to go 20-0 in the regular
season, advanced tothe NCAA Division III tournament Final Four for the
first time in the historyof both R-MC and ODAC women?s basketball,
finished second in the NCAAs, puttogether the longest winning streak in
the history of the program at 23 games,and finished ranked #2 in the
nation and #1 in the South Region. Coach CarrollLaHaye was named the
Coach of the Year by both the ODAC and the Virginia SportsInformation
Directors (VaSID).? I could go on and on with both individualand team
honors, but I think you can get the point that their record from
lastseason and their 2005-2006 preview deserved recognition today.

As a former Lady Yellow Jacket I know these young women would never
complainabout being passed over, as it seems to happen much of the time
in D IIIsports, but I am going to do it for them.? My hope is the next
time acollege basketball section comes out in the newspaper you will
include R-MC andsmaller teams that might not have the budget for the
?flyest gear? or the 45person media relations team, but do have the
players that devote their time toplay basketball well and really only
play for the love of the team and the loveof the game.




Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on November 19, 2005, 10:02:25 am
Great letter!!  RTD will never get the message though.  In today's paper, I could barely find the two line article about their win last night and no box scores.  What a shame. :'(
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on November 19, 2005, 10:36:41 am
Yeah I got a few phone calls from various RTD reporters saying that I was "preaching to the choir!"

They could devote a quarter of a page to the men's teams at Hampden-Sydney and R-MC but nothing on R-MC women? I don't want to turn it into a men vs. women "thing" but come on, the R-MC women are good, really good and I hope they will be covered more this season, or this subscriber will cancel!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on November 20, 2005, 04:25:55 pm
Did I miss something with Katy Herr?

Why was she not in action this weekend?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2005, 01:45:41 am
There was a College Basketball Section in today's Richmond Times-Dispatch that seemed to be missing this dominant RMC Women's BBall Team. The following is a letter I wrote to the Sports Editors of the T-D that I thought some would be interested in!

Bravo!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2005, 02:08:51 am
News and newspapers are being redefined by the internet.  The most authoritiative source for RMC Lady Jacket basketball is D3hoops.com.

In the process of redefining an industry, you encourage others who have your viewpoint to look to a better source than they previously had, namely the RTD.  You may eventually realize that the RTD, and the subscription that you pay, adds no value to your life.

Asking your SID to make sure that he/she uses every tool available on this web site will strengthen this site and attract new "readers".   D3hoops.com will use the content, whether the RTD does are not.

Making sure that you support financially these sources is key to their success, to wit, the Kickoff edition of D3football.com.

This won't happen overnight, but an organized force, such as that which D3Hoops.com provides, will help to re-define the market. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on November 21, 2005, 12:12:12 pm
Did I miss something with Katy Herr?

Why was she not in action this weekend?

Katy played 31 minutes one game and 35 the other.  She didnt shoot well according to the box score but did have 9 rebounds, 4 steals and 5 assists in the two games.  We all know she will fill up the stat sheets as the season goes on.  Anyone know how good Oglethorpe and Emory are?  I will have to say that I was surprised that BC went 0-2 down there.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on November 21, 2005, 12:12:47 pm
Sorry...this was my part of that post.

Katy played 31 minutes one game and 35 the other.  She didnt shoot well according to the box score but did have 9 rebounds, 4 steals and 5 assists in the two games.  We all know she will fill up the stat sheets as the season goes on.  Anyone know how good Oglethorpe and Emory are?  I will have to say that I was surprised that BC went 0-2 down there.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on November 21, 2005, 09:55:39 pm
Congrats to Amanda Renelds for being named ODAC player of the week.  She deserves it!

I wasn't at the EMU vs. MBC game. Can anyone who was there let me know what happened.  I am guessing that MBC is a much improved team and EMU didn't play to their potential.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on November 22, 2005, 05:51:01 am
I will answer my own question.

Looks like MBC shoot the ball well making 9-20 3's.

Congrats to Mathews and Renelds for collecting their 1000 pts in the past two games.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on November 22, 2005, 09:07:39 pm
Got to see the Lady Eagles in action today for the first time in their home opener against Averitt.  The Lady Eagles dominated the game from start to finish and won 85-47.  Katy Herr had 16 points, 6 boards, 7 assists, and 5 steals. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on November 28, 2005, 05:36:38 pm
Mr. Turner...Today, Monday November 28, 2005 I cancelled my subscription to the Richmond Times-Dispatch.  Not all because of the non-coverage of D3 sports or Women's Basketball in general, but because you were right everything that I want to know I can get elsewhere...like on the internet.  I am sure that my $100 won't be missed too terribly by RTD...but hey, it's a start! Thanks for the wisdom!
 :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on November 29, 2005, 06:34:07 pm
FYI -- Lynchburg at Randolph-Macon game starting at about 7:15.  Bus trouble for the Hornets on the way up to Ashland.  Web broadcast around 7:05 or so.

www.sportsjuice.com

Have a great night!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on November 29, 2005, 09:30:18 pm
EMU beats Roanoke by a score of 52-45.  Low scoring affair, but any ODAC win is big.

Jim,
Do you have any details about the game?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on November 29, 2005, 09:50:09 pm
R-MC with a blowout win over Lynchburg... 101-46  :o
Only two Hornets scored in double digits... but R-MC had four - Silva (26), Shaffer (25), Senske (15) and Orton (14). Morgan with a solid game as well... contributing with 7 rebounds, 5 points, 6 assists, and 4 steals (and no turnovers, I might add  :))
Looks like the Jackets have found the team chemistry they need!
Next up, a weekend trip to W&L and Roanoke... look for two more wins from R-MC  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on November 29, 2005, 10:11:01 pm
correction... Hiltunen had 14!  :)
Title: Bridgewater @ W&L
Post by: gogenerals04 on November 30, 2005, 08:08:39 am
Bridgewater led W&L, 35-21, late in the first half when a power outage hit the Washington and Lee campus and half of Lexington. Generals sophomore point guard Emily Wolff had just launched a three-pointer, and right as the ball hit the basket the Warner Center went dark. (The shot was good and was counted by the officiating crew.)

Needless to say, the game was suspended and will be resumed at a later date--possibly tonight, now that power has been restored here. I will post details once I find out about the reschedule.
Title: Re: Bridgewater @ W&L
Post by: gogenerals04 on November 30, 2005, 10:42:00 am
The Bridgewater-Washington and Lee women's basketball contest will be resumed at 7:00 pm tonight in the Warner Center. The Eagles are leading 35-21 with 2:49 remaining in the first half.

WLUR will continue its coverage of the game at 6:55 pm. Here's a link to our web site:

http://wlur.wlu.edu
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on December 03, 2005, 05:15:17 pm
Women's basketball action in Lexington, Virginia Saturday, December 3rd:

Randolph-Macon College 68
Washington and Lee University 58

R-MC now 3-1 overall/2-0 ODAC
W&L now 1-4 overall/0-2 ODAC

R-MC leaders:
Megan Silva:  19 points, 12 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 blocks
Michelle Orton:  14 points, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks
Salem Shaffer:  11 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists
Kristen Morgan:  10 points, 5 assists, 3 steals

W&L leaders:
Kristen Krouchick:  18 points, 4 assists
Jessica Hunsinger:  17 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks
Emily Wolff:  10 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists

R-MC is at Roanoke Sunday at 1:00 p.m.
W&L hosts Virginia Wesleyan Sunday at 2:00 p.m.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on December 04, 2005, 03:20:13 pm
From Salem, Virginia Sunday, December 4th:

Randolph-Macon College 83
Roanoke College 48

R-MC now 4-1 overall/3-0 ODAC
RC now 2-4 overall/0-3 ODAC

For R-MC:
Megan Silva 21 points, 4 assists
Lindsay Riesbeck 15 points (career-high), 5 rebounds
Kristin Thompson 12 points (career-high at R-MC), 4 rebounds, 3 assists (career-high at R-MC)
Megan Senske 7 rebounds

For RC:
Cindy McGraw 13 points, 4 rebounds
Erin Hanson 11 points, 7 rebounds
Ashley Nesbit 7 rebounds
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on December 04, 2005, 07:52:20 pm
Why can Washington & Lee stay with top schools such as Randolph Macon and Mary Washington, but fold under a Virginia Wesleyan?  :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on December 06, 2005, 07:34:49 pm
RMC up by 3 with 42.1 seconds before the half over Bridgerwater
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on December 06, 2005, 07:37:03 pm
halftime now
score 33-30

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on December 06, 2005, 08:48:31 pm
RMC wins a nail biter 80-72 over Bridgewater. Silva make 16 of 16 free throws (ODAC record), at least 8 down the stretch to contribute to the win.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on December 06, 2005, 09:51:03 pm
Thanks Hoopstermom for the RMC-Bridgewater game score! That rivalry is always a good game! Silva is well....AMAZING! Congratulations Yellow Jackets!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on December 06, 2005, 10:14:12 pm
Game stats just posted. Silva made 12  :o free throws in the last 2:27!!! Kristen Morgan added 2 and Michelle Orten added one more in addition to a basket.   There were 9 ties throughout the game and Bridgewater was winning up until Silva sank that first in a string of free throws at 2:27.

They meet again on January 3 at Bridgewater, should be another good one.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on December 06, 2005, 10:41:13 pm
Just to clarify -- Megan Silva's single-game record tonight (according to the records in the ODAC media guide coming into this season) was the percentage record. 

Previously the record was 13-for-13 free throws made in a game TWICE -- once by Rosse' Hopkins of Hollins vs. Wesleyan 1/12/01 and once by Brandi Cochran of Hollins vs. Randolph-Macon Woman's College 1/7/03.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on December 06, 2005, 10:47:08 pm
Some more stats from the Bridgewater at Randolph-Macon game . . .

For R-MC:
Megan Silva season and game-high 29 points, also five rebounds and game-highs of 6 assists and 5 steals
Kristin Thompson 14 points (a new career-high for her at R-MC this year) and 7 rebounds
Salem Shaffer 10 points, 4 assists
Michelle Orton 9 points, 7 rebounds

For BC:
Marsha Kinder 16 points, including 11-of-12 free throws (91.7%), plus 6 rebounds
Katy Herr 11 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals
Shanon Scales 11 points, 4 assists
Amy Childs 8 points, game-high 10 rebounds
Rebecca Henderson 8 points, 5 rebounds
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on December 08, 2005, 10:25:22 pm
Lady Eagles played another good game tonite in the ODAC at home against Roanoke.  The Eagles won 59-45, and never let Roanoke within ten in the second half, despite turning the ball over 25 times on the night.  Marsha Kinder scored right at her season average, dropping 18, and three Eagles had 10 rebounds (Katy Herr, Amy Childs, and Rebecca Henderson).  Herr also had nine assists to go along with 7 points.  Not looking ahead, (well, I actually am) RMC will be in for a dogfight again when they come to Nininger this year.  Only losing by 8 on the road the other night showed the Eagles can play with the Yellow Jackets.  I cant wait to see that one.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on December 08, 2005, 10:42:09 pm
Final score from Ashland, Virginia Thursday, Dec. 8th:

Randolph-Macon College 77
Eastern Mennonite University 40

Turnovers:  62
(EMU 39, R-MC 23)

Fouls:  45
(R-MC 25, EMU 20)

For R-MC:
Megan Silva 22 points (20 in the first half on 8-of-9 shooting), 4 assists, 4 steals
Kristin Thompson 9 points, 5 rebounds
Lindsay Riesbeck 8 points, 4 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 assists
Amanda Hiltunen 8 points
Michelle Orton 6 points, 8 rebounds, 3 steals

For EMU:
Stephanie Mathews 12 points, 11 rebounds, 3 steals
Megan Seward 9 points (all on 3-pointers)
Amanda Renalds 7 rebounds
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on December 09, 2005, 10:59:39 am
How were there 39 TO's for EMU?

Did RMC press or trap?  Were the forced TO's?  Good thing EMU got to the foul line.

Hopefully Lady Royals can get on track against VWC!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: huskiect on December 10, 2005, 08:13:37 pm
Why can Washington & Lee stay with top schools such as Randolph Macon and Mary Washington, but fold under a Virginia Wesleyan?  :o

There may be several teams folding under VWC this year. :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: huskiect on December 10, 2005, 08:15:45 pm
VWC picks up a good win on the road at EMU. They really never got started but did a great job to come back and win at a tough place.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 11, 2005, 12:42:58 pm
Congratulations to Guilford's Kristine Ellis for her school-record 44 points in yesterday's 104-95 Quaker victory over ODAC foe E&H.  Kristine broke the long-standing Guilford record of 43 held by my friend Elizabeth Parker '76.  In addition, the 104 points was the 3rd highest in school history and Jennifer King also "chipped in" 30. 

Go Quakers!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on December 11, 2005, 05:55:04 pm
Thats a GREAT record.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 12, 2005, 08:06:03 am
Thats a GREAT record.
Yes.  E. Parker was a great player and K. Ellis is just a 1st year college athlete - it'll be interesting to see how her career develops.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on December 12, 2005, 09:11:47 pm
How do you think she measures up with RMC's Silva?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 13, 2005, 01:34:08 pm
How do you think she measures up with RMC's Silva?
I think it's too early to say since she's a freshman, but I'd definitely give the edge to Silva right now.  Forty-four is a great total under any circumstances, but for now I attribute much of this game to the modified run & gun "system" ball E&H was playing.  Once you break their press, there are a lot of lay-ups.  I believe Eliis was 18 of 22 overall (mostly in the paint), 1 for 1 on three-pointers and 7 of 8 on FT's.   If she has some more games like this versus other competition then I think you can more clearly begin to see how she stands.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on December 14, 2005, 11:38:33 am
It seems as tho the Quakers are playing very well of late, but what happened to them when they came to CNU?? It seems like its two different teams. Just curious.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 15, 2005, 10:38:12 am
It seems as tho the Quakers are playing very well of late, but what happened to them when they came to CNU?? It seems like its two different teams. Just curious.
I haven't seen them play enough this year to give you a definitive answer, but I know their bench is short this season.  The Quakers lost two games I know about (Greensboro and Waynesburg) when they led at the half.  Maybe it's taken a while for the many freshmen to be able to contribute.  Some players appear to be missing this year (such as Green) that added height to last year's team. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 23, 2005, 10:58:55 am
A team that no one has had much to say about is VWC. I haven’t had a chance to see them play yet (I hope to after the holidays) but looking at what they have done so far is pretty impressive. Road wins at Roanoke, W&L, and EMU and a win against CNU before the break.  Of course if they take after their guys team the past few years they will come back form the break slow, fat, and lazy and fall apart at this point of the season. But if they do happen to come back on that same pace, then they could be looking at an interesting run before heading to BC. I’m not saying that they are as good as their record indicates just saying no one has really mentioned them much.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 03, 2006, 10:05:55 pm
Wow ... what a game tonight!

Bridgewater upsets #7 Randolph-Macon in double-overtime, 83-81.  Silva had an excellent game finishing with 30 points on 12-of-19 shooting.  Bridgewater's Katy Herr hit the game's final shot (over Silva) to give the Eagles the win.  Herr finished with 18 points, eight rebounds and five steals.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on January 03, 2006, 10:58:25 pm
Kid, I said the same thing to myself when I saw the score and then the stats -- WOW.  Disappointing for the Yellow Jackets but it must have been an incredible game.  Almost sorry I didn't make the trip.

Now the BRIDGEWATER Eagles travel to the #9 MARY WASHINGTON Eagles Thursday night.  Could be an interesting week for Coach Willi's BC team.

R-MC hosts Guilford and Emory & Henry, back-to-back Saturday and Sunday.

By the way, R-MC senior forward Michelle Orton scored her 1,000th career point tonight.

Silva's 30 points was a SEASON HIGH.  Her career-high is 34 points back in November 2004.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 03, 2006, 11:36:44 pm
rmcsid,

It would have been nice to see you again had you come.  R-MC made quite a comeback in the final three or so minutes of regulation.  BC had a 10-point lead at one point, but the Jackets didn't give up.  Silva hit three threes in a row during one stretch towards the end, even with hands in her face.

The difference in the game was free throws.  R-MC was only 6-of-12, while Bridgewater hit on 24-of-26.

Hopefully the Eagles can give Mary Washington a game.  I'll be listening in.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mom#15 on January 03, 2006, 11:56:11 pm
Congratulations to VWC for being #1 in ODAC.  Keep up the good work Marlins.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: religion_major on January 04, 2006, 12:33:16 am
As far as game lines, I was very impressed by the play of BC freshman Tori Ruckman.  She recorded a double-double with 12 points and 11 rebounds tonight.  Katy Herr came on well at the end of the game and Marshia Kender played very well the whole game with 20 points.  This is the first time that I have seen Megan Silva play and all I have to say is WOW.  Great game by two very good basketball teams.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 04, 2006, 09:05:44 am
The huge Bridgewater win proves that 1) The Jackets aren't as good as they were last year and 2) the ODAC is wide open. The Eagle’s win makes for an interesting scenario right now at the top of the conference. VWC, by benefit of not having played BC or Macon yet, has moved into first place. Not a position that anyone expected them to be in, nor one that I expect that they will stay in for long. They have a tough week still ahead with games at Lynchburg (which i hope to get to to finally see the marlins in person) and home against E&H and Guilford. If however, they could somehow win those three games that would make for 2 HUGE games the 12th vs Bridgewater and the 17th vs Macon.. Those two games could go a long way in deciding the conference. I would say it’s safe to
bet that even as well as VWC has played so far they are not ready for the “big time” and I don’t see anyone else coming close to giving BC or Macon a run for their money so last nights win becomes even bigger at the end of the year. Now the real question is, if BC and Macon both end up with one loss. Who gets the Number 1 seed at the tourney? ANYONE?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mizzou_mafia on January 04, 2006, 11:51:26 am
Heck of a game last night between RMC and BC.  Tough fought first half, and then when Silva went to the bench, the Eagles exploded to get that 10 point lead.  But, as long as Silva's in a game, RMC's never out of it. 

Congrats to the Lady Eagles on huge win!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on January 04, 2006, 12:19:33 pm
WOW!!!  Another fan that enjoyed a great basketball game last nite between RMC and BC.  A few thoughts....first off, I have never been a huge women's b-ball fan, but have loved the Eagles team since my sophomore year when Katie Herr and Jessica Young and Amy Childs and Shannon Scales came in as freshman.  I can now say that I enjoy watching them play more than the men (never thought I would be able to say that).  On another note...I have never seen athletes in as good of condition as those girls on both teams were last nite.  Katie and Marsha and Amy and Megan Silva (not to mention everyone else) played through two overtimes and never looked winded or like they had broke a sweat.  Marsha chased Silva around the whole second half and both overtimes almost and she would come out of timeouts looking like the game just started.  Absolutely amazing physical condition by both teams. 
Regarding the idea that RMC might not be as good this year as last year...I dont think that is exactly true.  Though BC played an amazing game (and i dont want to take anything away from them) RMC was cold last nite from the field.  They missed some easy layups that Im guessing they dont normally miss (the EMU girls team was there last nite, sitting behind me, and they kept saying "They (RMC) didnt miss any shots against us").  I still think RMC has the ability to win the conference and go very far in the playoffs, so i wouldnt say they arent as good as last year quite yet.  All I can say is that there were some stars out there last nite that for one reason or another didnt make it to Division I.  But im not complaining becasue Im lucky i get to watch them play at this level.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: huskiect on January 04, 2006, 05:38:08 pm
I think the ODAC will be very interesting. Before you write VWC off, remember they almost beat Bridgewater at Bridgewater last year. BC was saved by a very late call with less than a second on the clock to allow BC to win. VWC still has those players and more.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on January 05, 2006, 10:42:25 pm
Freshman Sarah Flanagan scored a career-high 26 points and All-American junior forward Debbie Bruen added 15 points and nine rebounds in leading the CAC's Mary Washington to an 85-67 win over ODAC's Bridgewater. Sophomore center Liz Hickey added 13 points and ten boards.

UMW never trailed, leading 40-25 at the half.

http://athletics.umw.edu/wbindex.htm
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 06, 2006, 09:41:13 am
I was able to slide over to Lynchburg last night to get a glimpse of the “first place” marlins of VWC. Here are my impressions :  A slightly above average team, with a group of slightly above average players. No Silva or Herr here just a group of about 11 girls who play hard. They have the ability to make outside shots, shooting something like 6 or 7 for 11 in the first half from behind the arch, but there ability to finish put backs and lay-ups could be a problem against better teams and at time they seemed to be confused about, or unable to recognize what defense the Hornets were in. There press was more bothersome than smothering, and even Lynchburg was able to beat them down the floor for some easy baskets,  They are probably  one of the top 4 team in the conference and it was easy to see how they have been able to run off an impressive winning streak against some lesser teams, but they don’t have that same “here we are come get us” swagger that most 1st place teams have they have a more of a look over our shoulder to see who is behind us look about them. If they make it through this weekend with games against E&H and Guilford that will set up a big game next Thursday at BC. Then we will see what these Marlins are all about……Speaking of BC OUCH!  Let down after beating Macon or just beat by a much better team?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: eaglemaniac on January 06, 2006, 11:24:32 am
It didn't look like BC let down after their win against RMC. I was impressed with their shooting as well. I don't think they matched up very well against Mary Washington in terms of size and the UMW depth kept them from ever really getting back in the game.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on January 06, 2006, 11:39:46 am
It didn't look like BC let down after their win against RMC. I was impressed with their shooting as well. I don't think they matched up very well against Mary Washington in terms of size and the UMW depth kept them from ever really getting back in the game.

That seems about right to me, with maybe an extra emphasis on UMW's depth.  Kinder and Scales were shooting well; especially 3s.  But Bridgewater had 3 players at 31 minutes or more; Katie Herr played 39 minutes.  Mary Washington played no one more than 28 minutes, and only used 2 players more than 22 minutes.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on January 06, 2006, 12:24:21 pm
The Fredericksburg Free Lance Star on the Mary Washington/Bridgewater game:

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/012006/01062006/158286
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: huskiect on January 06, 2006, 04:02:39 pm
What they failed to mention about the VWC / Lynchburg matchup is that VWC won going away by 21.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on January 06, 2006, 07:31:18 pm
Speaking of BC OUCH!  Let down after beating Macon or just beat by a much better team?

I was fortunate enough to be at the RMC/BC game and RMC is the better team. Bridgewater faught hard and played well. RMC was flat and they played not to loose versus to win. RMC's Silva was off (eventhough posting 30 points) from average. RMC was missing easy layups and making silly passes.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on January 07, 2006, 12:23:30 pm
[I was fortunate enough to be at the RMC/BC game and RMC is the better team.
Maybe on paper, but not on the court on Tuesday night.  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on January 07, 2006, 06:02:55 pm
True - Tuesday BC did come out on top. This makes for an intereseting OCAC tourney in Feb.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 07, 2006, 08:08:30 pm
I know they really haven't played all of the top teams in the conference but a nod needs to go to Stephanie Dunmyer at VWC for the impressive start.  Remember her first year at VWC she was 5-20 or something and almost .500 last year.  Pretty good for a young VWC team. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 08, 2006, 03:39:31 pm
Bridgewater looked good versus Lynchburg this afternoon.  Eagles won 81-63.

Now we can prepare for Virginia Wesleyan on Thursday.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mom#15 on January 08, 2006, 05:50:03 pm
Bridgewater.....here VWC comes! Still undefeated!  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mom#15 on January 08, 2006, 05:54:37 pm
Bridgewater.....here comes VWC! Still undefeated!  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 09, 2006, 10:38:24 pm
Mom15,

You may have provided the kiss of death.  Never ever jinx a team.....sorry to all the basketball gods.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on January 10, 2006, 08:23:10 pm
How about a little more C match-up for first place in the ODAC thursday?  Is Bridgewater gonna pressure full court like they have been doing the past few games?  can the marlins handle the pressure?  I see it being a close game, but the home court advantage will pull thru.  Eagles by around 10.  How about 65-55.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 11, 2006, 09:13:52 am
I don’t think the “basketball gods” will be able to help the Marlins Thursday night. If the Eagles get up and pressure the Marlins they will fold like a paper bag.  The fish are about to be brought back to reality with back to back games against BC and Macon……. Congratulations on a great start, hope you enjoyed the view from the top while you were there. Just remember what goes up must come down.  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 11, 2006, 03:53:16 pm
My thoughts on the upcoming Virginia Wesleyan (11-2, 6-0) at Bridgewater (7-4, 5-1) game on Thursday:

First let's take a look at who they've played...


Now let's take a look at the stats...


So I think the only way VWC will win is to win the rebounding battle and take care of the ball, seeing that they don't shoot very well from the floor.  Bridgewater is 5-0 at home this season, winning those games by an average of 20.4 points.

The Eagles have scored 70+ in seven games this season, but the Marlins have only let opponents score than many twice (and VWC won both of those times). 

Prediction: Bridgewater 76, Virginia Wesleyan 62
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on January 12, 2006, 12:34:12 am
What goes up must come down?  I think VWC has been pretty humble about their great start of the season.  For a team to be doing so well for once at a school who is the toddler of the ODAC is to be commended.  No matter what happens in the ever-awaited BC-VWC game and the rest of the season, Coach Dunmyer and her team should be extremely proud.  Most schools dream of going undefeated in a tough league until the middle of January.  Give them their props.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 12, 2006, 01:17:23 am
I think I already threw it out there that VWC really hasn't played anyone yet and they know that.  They have played the bottom of the conference. BC/Macon will let them know where they stand.  My only point is this.  The six games they have won, are six games they would have lost over the last five years.  I am excited about the improvement and look forward to seeing how they match up against the top half of the ODAC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on January 12, 2006, 01:19:18 pm
I would hardly say that "Virgina Wesleyan hasn't played anyone yet."  They've played every team in the ODAC except for R-MC and Bridgewater!  The Jackets and the Eagles have consistently been strong teams in the league - great players, great coaches - and they are due their respect, but let's not forget the ODAC is ELEVEN teams strong...it's a little haughty to belittle everyone else's performance thus far.  I don't know, just my opinion.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 12, 2006, 03:29:17 pm
I would hardly say that "Virgina Wesleyan hasn't played anyone yet."  They've played every team in the ODAC except for R-MC and Bridgewater!  The Jackets and the Eagles have consistently been strong teams in the league - great players, great coaches - and they are due their respect, but let's not forget the ODAC is ELEVEN teams strong...it's a little haughty to belittle everyone else's performance thus far.  I don't know, just my opinion.

Who isn't respecting what the Marlins have accomplished?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on January 12, 2006, 05:00:07 pm
Hopefully everyone has seen the news about the ODAC vs. USA South senior all-star game in March.  What a great thing!

I do not care to give my opinion, being in sports info.  But I'd love to know everyone's thoughts on the top 15 seniors for the women in the ODAC this year. 

Each team must have at least one representative, FYI.  After those eleven, there will be four "at-large" spots to fill.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 12, 2006, 06:59:43 pm
Hopefully everyone has seen the news about the ODAC vs. USA South senior all-star game in March.  What a great thing!

I do not care to give my opinion, being in sports info.  But I'd love to know everyone's thoughts on the top 15 seniors for the women in the ODAC this year. 

Each team must have at least one representative, FYI.  After those eleven, there will be four "at-large" spots to fill.

This would be my ODAC All-Star team (starters):

PlayerSchoolPosStatistics
Amanda RenaldsEMUC14.6 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 1.6 bpg
Michelle OrtonRMCF11.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 62% FGs
Marsha KinderBCG18.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 53% 3PTs
Jennifer KingGCG21.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.1 apg
Megan SilvaRMCG22.4 ppg, 6.5 apg, 5.1 rpg
Brooke BarkerEHCG12.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 3.0 apg
Coby WilmerHUG13.9 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 2.9 spg
Lacey CurrieLCF7.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.9 apg
Stephanie MathewsEMUF8.8 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.0 spg
Meghan StensrudRMCWF18.8 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 1.9 apg
Veronica KellyRCG4.5 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.8 apg
Louisa FeveWLUF9.3 ppg, 5.0 apg, 4.8 rpg
Jennifer PrewittRMCWF10.0 ppg, 11.8 rpg, 1.9 apg
Kate ChildressEHCG7.1 ppg, 4.9 apg, 4.8 rpg
LeighAnn WoodleyHUF12.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 35% 3PTs

Now I'm off to the VWC-BC game!  GO EAGLES!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 12, 2006, 07:47:17 pm
Halftime here at Nininger Hall ...

Bridgewater 38
Virginia Wesleyan 23

The Marlin guards are really impressing me ... lots of energy and they take care of the ball.

Alright, gotta get back out there!  I'll report a final!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on January 12, 2006, 09:26:50 pm
Kid must have gotten stuck in the Bridgewater traffic out of the game.  Either that or he is working on some big, intricate post.  But the Eagles prevail here at BC tonite against the Marlins and  are not tied atop the ODAC with RMC (I suppose they are tied at least).  Great first half by the Eagles.  They came out a little flat in the second, and the Marlins picked up their D, but BC still won by about 10 (cant remember the final score).  Number 11 for the Marlins really impressed me.  She is the fastest player I have seen this year and can shoot the lights out.  I would like to see her and Silva up against eachother.  Good game on both ends.  Great win for the Eagles.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 12, 2006, 09:32:06 pm
Old School:  I don't think I belittled everyone else's performance.  I am a marlin fan, but a realistic one.  The ODAC is not a strong conference top to bottom for Women's basketball and the top two teams are BC and RMC.  They are also the two teams, before tonight that VWC hasn't played.  Hence my comment on they really haven't defeated anyone great.  They have beaten some good teams, but not a top team........ YET.  I was praising the Marlins for their fantastic start and I hope they keep it going.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on January 12, 2006, 09:56:27 pm
RMCSID - when and where will the senior allstar game be?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 12, 2006, 10:07:12 pm
[...]

Prediction: Bridgewater 76, Virginia Wesleyan 62

Final score: BC 78, VWC 64.  Scary!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 12, 2006, 10:14:34 pm
Kid must have gotten stuck in the Bridgewater traffic out of the game.  Either that or he is working on some big, intricate post.  But the Eagles prevail here at BC tonite against the Marlins and  are not tied atop the ODAC with RMC (I suppose they are tied at least).  Great first half by the Eagles.  They came out a little flat in the second, and the Marlins picked up their D, but BC still won by about 10 (cant remember the final score).  Number 11 for the Marlins really impressed me.  She is the fastest player I have seen this year and can shoot the lights out.  I would like to see her and Silva up against eachother.  Good game on both ends.  Great win for the Eagles.

Haha.  I had a dinner-date at 9:00 pm ... didn't have time to get to a computer.

I second your comments.  I also was very impressed with #11 for the Marlins.  #22 for them had an extremely quick release ... very hard to guard.  And I liked #32's toughness down low.

I too would love to see #11 vs Silva.  Bridgewater's Katy Herr was once again nasty.  She had a tough shooting night (2-for-9), but finished with 10 points, 9 rebounds, 7 steals and 3 assists.

Virginia Wesleyan will continue giving teams a fit the rest of this season and over the next couple years.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on January 12, 2006, 10:21:53 pm
hoopstermom:

Here's the link to the release on D3hoops.com . . . was sent out Wednesday by both conferences, I believe:

http://www.d3hoops.com/pressreleases.php?release=249

Take care!
Title: Biggest Disappointment?
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 13, 2006, 07:57:09 am
W & L.  In the first half of the season, they appeared talented, sharp, and cohesive.  Since the New Year, the team seems splintered.  Their past few performances have been lackluster, mediocre at best. ???  Biggest Surprise?  VWC.  As posted earlier, the coach has an average team playing top notch ball.  Even against Bridgewater, the team refused to stop being relentless.  It will be interesting to see how all the teams finish their seasons.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 13, 2006, 10:29:13 am
Even though BC ended up with a 14 point victory last night, had as much as a 21 point lead and never trailed the entire game,  I must tip my hat to the ladies from VWC. While they showed that they are not ready yet to WIN the “big game”, they definitely proved that they do deserve to play in the “big game”. If you look at the VWC roster and see the fact that they have 0 SR and that their 4 JR endured a 5 win season their first year you have to believe that no one in Marlin blue last night had been on a court in a college game with as much on the line. You could see early in the game that the nerves were working against VWC as many of their first half turnovers where caused more by their own doing then by the eagles. NOT at all to take anything away from BC’s performance, they dominated the game in almost all areas, getting seemingly every ball on the floor and every big rebound. However, if VWC can find away to limit their own mistakes and learn to play in a big game environment they could be a tough out in the tournament come FEB. Congratulations to both teams on a good game. I am interested to see how the Marlins bounce back, and if they learned any thing from last night’s game next week as they face Macon at home.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 13, 2006, 04:21:35 pm
I just wanted to say congratulations to both BC and VWC on a hard fought game last night. I was able to make it out to the game, and even though it seemed like BC was in control for the whole game, VWC never gave up and kept fighting.

Here are a few stats that I found interesting. Coming into last night's contest VWC averaged 3.3 fewer turnovers then BC, but last night BC recorded 8 less turnovers then the Marlins. VWC averaged 8.4 more rebounds then the Eagles coming into the contest, but BC only let the Marlins grab 2 more boards then they did. VWC also held an edge over BC in blocks per game, averaging 1.5 more then the Eagles, but Rebecaa Henderson played big for BC as she recorded 3 of BC's 6 blocks. VWC only had 1 block for the evening. Other then shooting the ball (38% FG and 14 % 3pt. FG) BC seemed to do everything they had to do last night to get the job done.

I was once again very impressed with Katy Herr (10 pts., 9 rebounds, 7 steals, 3 assists, 39 minutes). A source of mine told me that Katy was sick before the game, but she is a warrior and played an excellent game, sick or not. Every time I see her I am impressed. She may not always rack up as many points as some of the other superstars in the league, but what she brings to this BC team is unreplaceable. I was very happy to see Katy was named to the National Team of the Week. She is very deserving!

I was also impressed with Chelsey Barrett for VWC. She had 15 points, 4 assists, and 2 steals to lead the Marlins. Coming into last night's contest she was averaging just 6.8 points a game. This is my third time watching VWC and she was quiet the first two times I watched the Marlins. I had to keep looking at my program last night to figure out who #11 was. It seems as though the Marlins have several different girls who are capable of stepping up and leading this young team.

I enjoyed another good ODAC contest last night. Good job to both teams and good luck to BC on their weekend road trip to E & H and Guilford. Also good luck to the Marlins as they will face another one of the top teams in RMC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: jmill on January 15, 2006, 04:54:19 pm
Don't be too hasty in counting out VWC to WIN a big game this season.  As more and more people are discovering, the team plays with a confidence that seems to help them overcome mistakes.  Bridgewater was fortunate to get out of that game with the WIN.  The ball bounces in strange ways some times and anything can happen, especially if the game is close in the closing minutes.  As an earlier poster pointed out, there are more than 2 teams in this league and anything can happen ... and probably will.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 15, 2006, 05:23:58 pm
Bridgewater was fortunate to get out of that game with the WIN. according to jmill. Just one question.....did you see that game?  I've seen both teams play several times.  That was not one of Bridgewater's best efforts, but there was nothing fortunate about their win.  Bridgewater controlled that entire game, even when VWC went on a small run in the second half and spent a lot of effort in trapping Bridgewater guards.  Bridgewater handled the pressure.  The closest VWC was in that game was 8 points.  Hats off to the great job that the VWC coach is doing with that program, but they're not ready for prime time yet. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: jmill on January 15, 2006, 05:40:55 pm
Cutting a 22-point deficit down to 8 with time still to win the game is no "small run."  It may not have been one of BC's best efforts, but it wasn't one of VWC's best either.  If BC was in "control the entire game" the margin of victory would not have slipped so much.  And as far as being ready for prime time, who even mentioned that?  Just because Bridgewater pulled off an upset against R-MC doesn't make them prime time material.  What was that score at Mary Washington?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 15, 2006, 06:30:39 pm
I agree with Fairmont1113. I am not agreeing because I am a diehard BC fan, I am just agreeing because I was there and I saw the game. Bridgewater dominated the first several minutes of the game and never looked back. Coach Dunmyer of VWC was forced to call a timeout just a minute and a half into the game because BC scored on its first three possessions to go up 6-0. Bridgewater did not shoot that ball as well as they usually do, Katy Herr was sick, and they still won by 14! VWC played a pretty good game to me, jmill. That was the third time I have seen them play, and they played well. When they played at EMU and had to rely on the last second heroics of Taylor Lowe with 1 second left to win the game, shot the ball poorly, and turned the ball over 24 times, that was a bad game by the Marlins. So, to me, and this is just an opinion, VWC played well...they were never really in the game, and they lost.

 I coach basketball, and let me just make a point....when a team gets a big lead, it is a pretty normal thing for them to let their guard down, for the coach to give the reserves some valuable minutes, and for the other team to take some unorthodox measures to get back in the game. Such was the case in the BC game. BC backed off the pressure, and VWC proceeded to throw up some wild shots, and they went in! Yes, VWC got back into the game, and they should be commended for that, but the only point fairmont1113 was making was that BC was not fortunate to win that game, they are a very good ball team and did what they had to do to win the ball game. They outscored the bigger Marlins in the paint, were even with them in the rebounding category, and they had several reserves get valuable playing time and take advantage of it.

I do disagree with fairmont1113 on one thing, I do think VWC is ready for the "prime time", so to speak. To me, they are the third best team in the ODAC. They are a very good team and are on the up and up. However, jmill, I could tell you were just trying to take some cheap shots about fairmont1113's comments, and that was not needed because he meant no disrespect, or at least it did not seem so by his post. I think BC is a "prime time" team. They have played much better teams then VWC and has been competitive. They have three top 25 teams, two of those are top 10 teams, and one of those teams has received votes to be number one in the nation....MARY WASHINGTON! Yes, BC lost to a very good MW team. I have seen MW play (not BC) and they are a very talented team. BC went right from playing #7 and beating them in double overtime, to playing #9 two nights later. They did not lose that badly to MW, they lost by 18, but they hung in there for a while. They only lost by 11 to #24, and played them very even. They were able to pull within four several times in the second half against #24 Oglethorpe.

Their only other loss comes to Emory. Emory is 10-3, and two of their losses were also to top 25 teams, one of them was the #2 team in the country. Bridgewater has consistently had a good team. They play good competition and get quality wins. For the second straight year their point guard (Herr) has been named to the National Team of the Week at least once. VWC has not yet played a ranked team.

One more thing, jmill....I do believe an upset to a team with a 30-game ODAC winning streak, ranked #7 in the nation, and finished runner-up in the nation the previous year does mean they should be recognized as "prime time." Also, when they played RMC the first time BC held a lead for much of the game, it was tied 64-64 with just 2:28 left in the game, and RMC managed to get some big shots from Silva and they hit their free throws. I apologize for being so long winded, but BC has played quality teams and played well. I follow a lot of the ODAC teams and know a lot. So, if you are going to make allegations about a team, know something about them and do not generalize on one game (Mary Washington). Good effort thus far to both BC and VWC, they are both playing great!

I just got a phone call that BC picked up two more wins this weekend on the road at Emory and Henry and Guilford. Also, I was able to see the Roanoke v. RMWC game on Saturday and Roanoke is playing much better then they were when I first saw them play in early December. They have now won six in a row! Does anybody have any idea why they are starting to play so well? I have not seem them enough to know. Erin Hanson has really impressed me also. She had 21 points and 13 rebounds in only 23 minutes! Can't wait to see the VWC V RMC game this week! Should be a good week of basketball in the ODAC!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 15, 2006, 06:55:29 pm
Cutting a 22-point deficit down to 8 with time still to win the game is no "small run." It may not have been one of BC's best efforts, but it wasn't one of VWC's best either. If BC was in "control the entire game" the margin of victory would not have slipped so much.

Here are some facts (not opinions) about the VWC-BC game:

The Marlins came in making good on 39% of their field goals, 61% of their free throws and 30% of their three-pointers.  Versus the Eagles, VWC made 38% of their field goals, 60% of their free throws and 32% of their three-pointers.

I'm sorry to break it to you, but the Marlins' performance was par for the course.

VWC never had the lead, and was only "in the game" (score-wise) for four minutes during the beginning of the first half.  BC went out to a 6-0 lead two minutes into the game ... with the Marlins staying within six or less over the next four minutes.  I suppose you can call that a small victory?!

As for the 22-point lead (52-30 w/ 12:36 remaining in the game) that you "chipped away at" ... the Marlins had the game under a 10-point lead (and never any closer than eight points) for exactly 29 seconds of the second half.  Another small victory, I'm assuming.

What was that score at Mary Washington?

Hmm, perhaps you don't follow Division III women's basketball that much, not your fault.  I'll attempt to educate...

Mary Washington kicked our butt.  No question about it.  But maybe you haven't checked out the D3hoops.com Top 25 (http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/) lately ... they are now No. 7 in the country and only one of two undefeated teams left (currently 14-0).

It's not your fault you haven't seen your Marlins play anyone.  Like I mentioned earlier in the week, VWC has played opponents with a combined win percentage of 45% ... while the Eagles have faced much tougher competition at 64%.  And if you think starting out 8-0 in the ODAC having played everyone but R-MC and BC is impressive, consider that six of those eight teams (not counting EMU and RC) have a combined 6-18 record (25%) outside the conference.  If you all are as good as you think you are, then you are suppose to win those games.

Play the Yellow Jackets tough on Tuesday, then get back to us.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: former rmcsid on January 16, 2006, 12:29:43 pm
Again, just curious -- not giving my opinion, a bad idea for an SID.

Anyone have thoughts on all-ODAC for this year?  Almost the midway point this season.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on January 17, 2006, 06:44:42 am
What is everyones take on the outcome of tonights RMC/VWC matchup at VWC? Id take RMC BY 18. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on January 17, 2006, 01:09:01 pm
Again, just curious -- not giving my opinion, a bad idea for an SID.

Anyone have thoughts on all-ODAC for this year?  Almost the midway point this season.

My picks are somewhat uninformed because i havent seen each team play (though I have seen most of them), but here is my shot at first team all-odac.

Megan Silva- RMC
Marsha Kinder- BC
Jennifer King- GC
Katie Herr- BC
Amanda Renalds- EMU

The top 3 seem like a lock because of their stats.  Katie does EVERYTHING. And Renalds is a toss up with some other players like Jessica Hunsinger (W&L) or Megan Stensrud (RMWC).  But like I said, that is a party uninformed opinion.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 17, 2006, 07:59:29 pm
For anyone interested, VWC has live stats (http://www.vwc.edu/athletics/wbasketball/season/05_06/games/live/xlive.htm) for the game tonight.

R-MC was up 41-31 at the half ... it remains a 10-point advantage two minutes into the second half.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on January 17, 2006, 08:07:27 pm
Again, just curious -- not giving my opinion, a bad idea for an SID.

Anyone have thoughts on all-ODAC for this year?  Almost the midway point this season.

My picks are somewhat uninformed because i havent seen each team play (though I have seen most of them), but here is my shot at first team all-odac.

Megan Silva- RMC
Marsha Kinder- BC
Jennifer King- GC
Katie Herr- BC
Amanda Renalds- EMU

The top 3 seem like a lock because of their stats.  Katie does EVERYTHING. And Renalds is a toss up with some other players like Jessica Hunsinger (W&L) or Megan Stensrud (RMWC).  But like I said, that is a party uninformed opinion.

Megan Silva and Katie Herr for sure.  Too early to tell for the others as yet.  Haven't seen EMU or GC yet.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 17, 2006, 08:48:21 pm
RMC 83  VWC 58

The Marlins lost by 25 tonight to RMC. Michelle Orton played a terrific game, scoring a game-high 28 points and pulling down a game-high 13 rebounds. Megan Silva, of course, played another gem of a game. She recorded 22 points, 7 assists, and 8 rebounds. Heather Phillips for the Marlins scored 7 points below her season average as she contributed just six points on 2-of-8 shooting.

Everyone wanted to see how #11 Chelsey Barrett would match up against Silva after her impressive 15 point performance against BC, and she did not match up that well at all. She only averages 6 points a game, and though she is a good player with potential to do some big things, she is no where at the level that Silva is. She scored just 5 points on 1-of-12 shooting.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 17, 2006, 09:22:15 pm
ew ... you're right.  #11 didn't do too well ... 1-for-12 from the floor (six misses from three-land).  Silva did have seven turnovers ... who knows how many were because of #11.

One interesting thing I did notice was versus Bridgewater, the Marlins played 10 players who all played at least 11 minutes (and no one with more than 31).  Against R-MC, the Marlins played their starters 32, 34, 36, 36 and 36 minutes.  Only one other player in double-digit minutes (10).

Again, horrid shooting by the Marlins doomed them.  Hit only 21-of-75 (28%) from the field and 17% from behind the arc ... and were outrebounded by nine.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 17, 2006, 10:31:02 pm
While Randolph Macon may have proved they were still head of the class tonight they also showed glimpse of what little class they have. Yes Silva ended with 22 points but if you read a little deeper into the stats you will see she scored most of them late in the game when the game was completely out of hand. She had six points at half time with just three shots, Orton had 16 at the half and I guess just over powered the smaller VWC posts. With the game out of reach in the 2nd half Coach LaHaye left  Silva in until 21 seconds left in the game (according to the VWC web page) .  Now that is a classy move. Guess Silva couldn’t score on the Marlins #11 so she waited until the game was out of hand and the Marlins had pulled the plug to run up her totals. Not to take anything away from Megan Silva she is a great player and a true competitor but why leave her in the game at that point other than to just pad her stats. I am sure that this isn’t the first time that this is happened and I am sure that the Marlins aren’t the only victims. I think it goes without saying that I am not a VWC fan so I could care less about how bad Macon beat them but I hope coach LaHaye will remember the old saying “WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND” Silva and Orton will be gone VERY soon, and the rest of the ODAC is getting better and better. I hope that ALL the Coaches in the ODAC will “Do unto others as they have had done unto them”… Hats off to the Orton for a monster game, and getting her points when they really counted,  and a sorry no offense to you Silva I think you are a great player, just question your coaches thought process…….
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: upper90 on January 18, 2006, 01:33:23 pm
ODACBBALLFAN

what to say, If you've been watching Macon this year you would see that they are still trying to find that "thing" to make it all come together.  A defense that they are confident in, a go-to combination, something to light a spark in them to get them playing the basketball that their talents will allow them to play.  No offense (a statement made often on this forum) but playing against teams at the bottom of the ODAC are not going to be teams that Macon will be able to FIND this thing.  They need competition, and when they are playing a team tied for first in the league why wouldnt they try to get the most out of playing them.  They are not out their trying to prove they deserve their national ranking, if you ask them they dont even know WHAT they are ranked, they are trying to prove to themselves that they a different team then last year and a damn good one at that.  Give the coaching staff a break and have faith that they are not trying to disrespect the other teams or the other coaches but trying to make their team the best that they can.  (side note, macon is playing another nationally ranked team in February, they gotta prepare somehow)     
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 18, 2006, 03:49:03 pm
From the VWC Web Site:
“Virginia Wesleyan hit on only 1-of-6 shots and turned the ball over three times in that span to the Jackets, who were just hitting enough to steadily pull away. R-MC connected on 5-of-12 shots, including two by Michelle Orton, to pull out to a 62-42 lead with 9:20 to play…. R-MC’s All-American Megan Silva finished with her game-average 22 points, tallying 10 in the final 7:12 of the contest. She exited the competition with 21 seconds to play.”
Read that carefully, with a 20 point lead the yellow jackets made it a point to make sure that Silva, who had been limited to just 12 points in the game, got off enough shots in the final 7 minuets to reach her average. That has nothing to do with a team looking for any "thing" that is a selfish, individualist approach, that should disgust not only their opponents but the kids on the bench who work just as hard at practice and can’t even get into a blow out. Yeah that is the kind of “TEAM” I would want to play for.  They should just call them the Megan Silva Yellow Jackets……..See now you have gotten me upset. And again I want to apologize to Silva because this is not an attack on her or her abilities at all, she can’t help it if her coach has no concept of team. Maybe if they would have had a little more team approach last year they wouldn’t be the defending national “runner up” yellow jackets…..
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 18, 2006, 06:00:41 pm
I'm sure Macon saw that the Marlins turned a 22-point deficit (52-30) against Bridgewater into an eight-point game (65-57) 11 minutes later.

I see nothing wrong with keeping starters in a game that is already won, especially less than six weeks from the NCAA tournament and players needing to be in shape enough to play 30+ minutes a game.

That's why I assumed R-MC played their starters so long in this game ... the speed of VWC (and BC) is as close to what the NCAA tournament teams will be like, so I see it as good preparation.

To prove my point, I looked up how many minutes per game the starters from last year's Final Four Macon team played in the tournament (five games) ... and it proves it:

Silva averaged 39.2
Shaffer averaged 32.2
Morgan averaged 31.6
Crider averaged 27.4
Orton averaged 25.0

In the VWC/R-MC game yesterday, the starters played:

Silva, 39
Orton, 33
Morgan, 29
Senske, 27
Hiltunen, 23

That's almost identical to the average minutes per game by the starters last year in the NCAA tournament.

So be frustrated the Marlins lost by 25 points, but don't say Macon was unclassy.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 18, 2006, 06:23:33 pm
I do not see anything wrong with the way RMC played that game. When you are blowing teams away almost every game, its hard to keep benching your All-American so the bench can see minutes. That would become an every game affair if RMC played that way. I do think that the yellow jackets rely too heavily on Silva, and that next year will be quite a task for Coach LaHaye to devise a game plan where the Jackets will play as more of a team then a one-woman wrecking crew.

Talking about sportsmanship, I have been dissapointed with VWC and their sportsmanship. At the three games I have seen them play, I have noticed more and more that they are great athletes, but not the best of sports. The players complain on most every call the ref calls against them, and at both the BC game and the EMU game, there were several times that a VWC player would cause someone on the opposite team to hit the ground hard, and rather then helping them up, the VWC player would just walk away. That is not classy!

This is my vote for first team on not only skills, but on their class.....

Megan Silva
Katy Herr

Both of these girls are outstanding basketball players, and I always see them go out of their way to help an opposing player off the floor. Hats off to them!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 18, 2006, 06:30:21 pm
I was at the BC v. VWC game, and I agree. There were several times that one of Bridgewater's girls would hit the ground hard, and a VWC player would just walk right by them. I was sitting around BC fans and there were several times that the crowd yelled at the VWC team to help their opponents up. That is just the right thing to do. That does not exemplify class or good sportsmanship.

 I also am impressed with Herr and Silva. Everytime I have seen them play, they both have had excellent games and have always congratulated one another after the game. They help other players off the floor, and the few minutes that they might see on the bench, they are their teams biggest cheerleader. I wish Silva would not talk to the refs so much on free throws, but Michael Jordan used to do the same thing, so I guess she is just acting her part as a super star.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 18, 2006, 06:34:55 pm
I could care less about the 25 point loss, not a Marlin fan. I’m not talking about running up scores or your absurd idea about how playing 39 minuets now will some how help Silva be better in March… What if heaven forbid the officials in the NCAA tournament don’t protect her like the ODAC officials do and she gets into foul trouble. Makes more sense then to have played some other people when the chance was given. This is nothing more than blatant stat padding. Just be happy with the 12 points and 20 point win and walk away injury free………..
"several times that a VWC player would cause someone on the opposite team to hit the ground hard, and rather then helping them up, the VWC player would just walk away."
Silva is lucky that VWC showed enough class not to put her on the floor intentionally . (See John Chaney and how he feels about starters in blowouts)
Again I am not saying that Silva is not a classy player, if her coach is going to leave her in then by all means do what you do. Nothing against her shooting the shots since she is in there, just dont want to hear how impressed everyone is with her 22 point performance, i'll give her 12 earned ponts and 10 cheapies......
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 18, 2006, 07:51:34 pm
It's halftime here in Bridgewater, as the Generals are hanging tough only down 32-22.

Turnovers and fouls have plagued the Eagles thus far, but W&L hasn't capitalized on the foul shots, missing most of them.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 18, 2006, 08:01:08 pm
Surprising first half at BC. W&L  (yes the same ones that LOST to RMWC) are keeping within striking range. I would expect BC to pull away in the second half.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 18, 2006, 08:19:29 pm
Still a close one here ...

8:49 left in the game, BC only up 53-42.  W&L's center (#32) is a blocking machine!  Also has a great nose for where the rebound will go.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 2122rspc on January 18, 2006, 08:23:02 pm
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a coach playing her starters late in a game when the lead is 20 points or less.  How often do you see Roy Williams or Coach K take their starters or main players out with that small of a lead?  In basketball, 20 points is not a blow out...I played basketball for a very long time and I have seen coaches do things that weren't classy...an example is when Peace beat Bennett College like 97-3 about 5 years ago.  They even made it to ESPN for the lowest point total of an opponent in a college game ever or something.  The coach at Peace at that time pressed so that they could get the record.  The current Peace coach is not the same coach.

I played against RMC 3 years ago in the first round of the NCAA tournament.  Their coach and players were a class act and Megan Silva was an amazing freshman.  I don't think letting her play in reasonably close games her senior year is unclassy.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 18, 2006, 08:34:55 pm
Wow ... Bridgewater finished on an 18-4 run to win 71-46.  And that was with our starters out and the W&L starters staying in until the last minute.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: jmill on January 18, 2006, 08:38:07 pm
There is nothing wrong with keeping in starters to the end of the game, there's just nothing bright about it either, unless the game is close.  VWC's players were visibly tired and trailing by a margin that was totally safe for RMC at the time.  The not-so-bright part is that it puts the starters at risk for injury.  In fact, Silva tripped as she tried to turn and fell to the court.  It was only THEN that the RMC decided to take her out.  What if she would have twisted an ankle, or worse yet, broke something on that fall?  Was it worth it just to get 10 points so she could make her average?  There were still plenty of games ahead where she could make up what she missed.  So, nothing wrong yes, classy no.  If Silva would go down for whatever reason, so would RMC's chances of doing much of anything in the post-season tournament.

As for the poster who was disappointed with VWC's sportsmanship, be careful about pointing fingers at other teams until you know your team is absolutely innocent.  And I think that is almost impossible.  

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 18, 2006, 08:39:15 pm
I am really surprised by the responses on the topic of keeping Silva in to score. I am goign to keep a close eye the rest of the year on all teams just to see what goes on.... good win tonight for BC pulling away from W&L ("with their starters out")
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 18, 2006, 08:40:35 pm
Odacbballfan. the only one showing a lack of class is you.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 18, 2006, 08:53:02 pm
Haha spoken like a true Randoplh Macon fan! That is the problem. most of you guys are so brainwashed that you don't have any idea what is classy... . Playing hard and beating a team becuase you are better, YES... Just playing to make sure you get your average, not so much....
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 18, 2006, 08:58:47 pm
RMC gets hollins on sunday lets see how many points and min Silva can run up on that very stong oppenent.... Let's see if Silva can score 40 points and play 35 min in that sure to be 50 point blowout, that will be real impressive to everyone.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 18, 2006, 09:18:24 pm
Odacbballfan, gosh, you have a bad case of Silva-envy.  Just take your meds, you'll be okay.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on January 18, 2006, 09:30:21 pm
As a coach, I think it is okay to leave in your starters for as long as you like.  As long as you aren't full court pressing and trapping, getting easy steals and lay-ups. 

Just a thought.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 18, 2006, 09:32:52 pm
I'm done arguing this, The fact of the matter is, Silva is a great player and can pretty much score at will when ever she needs too. I just don't see how doing it at the end of a game that is out of hand counts for a "great game" The 2nd half of the season should be fun I am willing to bet there are an uset or two left out there before this year is over
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on January 18, 2006, 09:34:57 pm
Dear ODAC BBALL FAN:

 AS A FOLLOWER OF DIVISION THREE BASKETBALL I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE THINKING. SILVA IS A RARITY IN DIVISION THREE AND YOU SHOULD ENKOY WATCHING HER PLAY. SHE IS GOING TO CLIP THE 2000 POINT MARK SOON AND IF YOU THINK HER POINTS ARE GARBAGE YOU ARE WRONG!!! HAVING SEEN RMC AND MANY OTHER GOOD TEAMS PLAY THIS YEAR LAHAYE IS NOT LEAVING SILVA IN TO PICK UP POINTS. IN FACT SILVA HAS HAD CHANCES TO SCORE A LOT. EARLIER IN THE YEAR SHE HAD 25 AT THE HALF AND ENDED UP WITH 29. THE REASON BEING 9 SECOND HALF ASSISTS AND 4 OF THEM ON BREAKAWAYS. SO BEFORE YOU ARE A HATER OF A FINE FEMALE ATHLETE LOOK INTO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

NOBODY COMPLAINS WHEN COACH K HAS JJ REDDICK IN THE GAME AND THEY ARE UP 30

DO ALL OF US A FAVOR AND ENJOY THE SHOW WHILE IT LAST.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 2122rspc on January 18, 2006, 09:37:39 pm
I agree, EMUfan....unclassiness is shown when a game is clearly out of hand and the team with the lead is still pressing or trapping to get easy layups.  We've all had games where teams have done this to us and no one likes it.  However, we've also all been the team who had a sizeable lead and coaches often use this time to run new plays in game situations, change lineup combinations, work on new defenses and such.  There is nothing wrong with that.  

JMill, I also agree with you about the fact that it is also a time when you are taking a risk of your starters being injured.  And in those times, it comes down to what the coach wants to do.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 18, 2006, 09:37:44 pm
Odacbballfan, gosh, you have a bad case of Silva-envy.  Just take your meds, you'll be okay.

Investing in a punching bag might do the trick.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 18, 2006, 10:16:41 pm
Last time on this subject... you guys are not reading what actually happened... It wasn't about running new plays, new d's and working on things to get better. Macon specifically ran plays to get Silva the ball so that she could score. No offense, no working on things just make sure Silva gets some shots up.....It has nothing to do with leaving people iin or running up scores but it really doesn't matter, it was just a point of view, one wich is not a popular one but i am big enough to take the heat......
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 18, 2006, 10:31:36 pm
jmill.....
 
I made the post about VWC and their sportsmanship. I have seen them play three times, and each time have thought to myself that sportsmanship is an area they could improve in. I coach basketball, played basketball, and am just a fan of the game. I love the ODAC. I have seen every team but Guilford and Hollins play this year. I have no favorite team, so I am not very biased. I tend to cheer for players from my area....Augusta and Rockingham Counties. Since I have no favorite team, I can look at the VWC squad and give an honest opinion about their sportsmanship, or lack of it.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: jmill on January 18, 2006, 10:55:47 pm
Yes, valley, you can give your own opinion.  But you see what you want to see and interpret things your own way.  Everyone does.  You're making a huge judgement on three games.  Since you've seen all but two ODAC teams play, are all of the other ODAC teams innocent of the same charge?  You're fooling yourself if you say "yes."   

Heinball, there is no comparison between RMC and what goes on at Duke.  But you are right, people should enjoy what RMC is doing, at least RMC fans should enjoy it, while it lasts.  After seeing them play four times now, with little improvement, I don't foresee them getting a spot in Springfield.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 18, 2006, 11:42:27 pm
odacbballfan,

Wow ... I sure hope you're just playing around and trying to stir stuff up on here, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.  Let me help by informing you on the facts:

With 10:05 left in the game, R-MC was up 60-42.  You state, and I quote;

Macon specifically ran plays to get Silva the ball so that she could score. No offense, no working on things just make sure Silva gets some shots up.

I sure hope you weren't at the game, because this is what happened in those last 10 minutes...

R-MC attempted 19 shots (two of which were non-Silva shots that sent a Yellow Jacket to the line for two).  So that leaves us with 17 shots.  Orton took five of them.  That leaves 12 shots.  Hiltunen took three, leaving nine shots.  Thompson attempted two, which leaves us with seven shots.  Senske, Morgan and Shaffer all attempted one shot apiece, leaving us with four shots.

So yeah, Silva had a whopping four shot attempts during the last 10 minutes of play.  So you're saying that Silva taking four of her team's 19 shot attempts is, and I quote;

Macon specifically ran plays to get Silva the ball so that she could score. No offense, no working on things just make sure Silva gets some shots up.

I'm just trying to make sure I'm clear on this.  So what you're trying to say is that Silva taking 21% of her team's shots in the game's last 10 minutes means that, and I quote;

Macon specifically ran plays to get Silva the ball so that she could score. No offense, no working on things just make sure Silva gets some shots up.

I know, I know ... my post is loaded with sarcasm.  I just hope this is the way to get across to you, because the other (more educational) ways didn't.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on January 19, 2006, 07:58:45 am
I haven't posted in a while....but I will comment on this subject.  I've seen Silva play quite a few times in her 4 years, and there is no doubt that she is great.  I think she can score at will, on any given night, and against any given team.  Thats all qualities of a Great player, and in my opinion, you want those players on the floor for the majority of the game. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 19, 2006, 08:50:26 am
It has become very evident that I am the only one on this board that feels that an all-American, jacking up a three pointer with 1:50 left in a 30 point game, or scoring her last bucket with 29 seconds left when you could just run out the clock is not good basketball. Therefore, I will do what any good politician would do and flip-flop my view on the subject. I no longer care what the score is or how much time is left.
FIRE AWAY!!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 19, 2006, 09:07:41 am
Congratulations to the Quakers for a 96-92 road win at E&H last night.  I saw a few posters had Jennifer King on their 1st Team All-ODAC list.  She didn't hurt that recognition by dropping 36 on the Wasps last night. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 19, 2006, 09:36:12 am
Well, before you got sarcastic with the statement;

I no longer care what the score is or how much time is left.  FIRE AWAY!!!!

You changed your position on the matter from;

Macon specifically ran plays to get Silva the ball so that she could score.

to;

It has become very evident that I am the only one on this board that feels that an all-American, jacking up a three pointer with 1:50 left in a 30 point game, or scoring her last bucket with 29 seconds left when you could just run out the clock is not good basketball.

Fact #1: Silva's three-point attempt with 1:50 left was one of three the Jackets attempted in the second half (and Silva's only attempt).  Fact #2: Silva's jumper with 29 seconds left came with only seven seconds left on the shot clock.

I don't think you know what you are arguing about/for anymore.  Therefore, I need to shut up and let you be.  So go ahead and get in a good last word on the subject.

Maybe this time you'll be fuming at the fact Silva made a steal with 5:49 left in the game.  How could she!!!   >:(
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 19, 2006, 11:28:12 am
Okay odacbballfan - I'll help you out.  It does seem pretty evident that Macon tries to pad Silva's stats.  Which is sad, because she's and Excellent player and doesn't need the help.  As for starters staying in, Bridgewater did keep their starters in until the two minute mark against W & L.  However, they weren't trying to up Kinder's or Herr's stats.  Just another opinion.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: rip08 on January 19, 2006, 12:42:20 pm
whitecaylxx,

Evident how? Can you give me some stats that back up your claim, or are you just talking out the side of your mouth like odacbballfan?

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 19, 2006, 01:00:03 pm
The Daily News Record out of Harrisonburg, Virginia ran a nice article on Katy Herr in today's print. Here is the link if you would like to read it.....

http://www.dnronline.com/sports_details.php?AID=2580&CHID=3

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 19, 2006, 01:28:26 pm
Here is my opinion on what the first team in the ODAC would look like if the season were to end today.

1st Team:

Megan Silva-RMC (22.8 ppg-1st, 5.4 rpg-20th, 6.77 apg-1st, 3.15 spg-2nd
                             and she is second in assist-to-turnover ratio)

Katy Herr-BC (11.5 ppg-18th, 5.9 rpg-18th, 4.07 def.rpg-14th, 4.80 apg-2nd,
                       3.60 spg-1st, fourth in assist-to-turnover ratio)

Jennifer King-GU (21.4 ppg-2nd, 7.3 rpg-10th, 3.29 apg-9th, 2.57 spg-5th,
                            14th in assist-to-turnover ratio)

Meghan Stensrud-RMWC (17.5 ppg-4th, 8.2 rpg-5th, 0.83 bpg-11th)

Jessica Hunsinger- W&L (16.2 ppg-5th, 10.4 rpg-2nd, 3.00 bpg-1st)

King, Silva, and Herr do absolutely everything for their teams. Herr does not average as many points as Kinder (BC, 19.1-3rd), but she does so much for the Eagles in every other statistical category, that I thought she would deserve 1st team over Kinder. The one thing that all three of these players do is lead their team in minutes. The reason I feel like they should be first team selections is the fact that they are so vital to their team's success.

Stensrud and Hunsinger, in my mind, are two of the best posts in the league right now. Both players might not come from the strongest teams, but their performances speak for themselves.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on January 20, 2006, 10:33:21 pm
No "love" for LC's Caroline Wesley? Shes cureently averaging 14.9 points a game on .537 shooting overall and .788 from FT. She is also averaging 8.5 rebounds, .73 blocks, and 1.1 steals a game. And to think she's even been playing better the past few games! Against hollins she had 18 points, 13 boards, 2 assists, and 3 steals. Against Roanoke she had 23 points, 13 boards, 3 blocks, and 6 steals (and the last time I checked roanoke was a solid squad). Against W&L she had 12 points in only 17 minues because of foul troubule, and Hunsinger had to take 18 shots to score 13 points (5 of the points came from the FT stripe where she was only 5 for 10). Against Ferrum she had 15 points, 10 boards, 2 blocks, and 1 steal. Against EMU she was the best player on the court scoring 22 points along with 12 boards. Against VWC she had 9 points and 11 boards. Against Averett she had 24 points and 11 boards. I won't go on with the stats anymore. She's obviously proven herself as one of the best post players in the ODAC and outperformed Hunsinger in their one matchup to date. Caroline Wesley should most definitely get consideration for at least 2nd team all-odac, if not first team! And she's doing all of this on a team that has has to make hte transition to a new coach, on a team that was projected to only finish 9th in the ODAC, and i'm sure the scouting reports absolutely stress that they make her really work for her points!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on January 21, 2006, 03:37:32 am
So tomorrow's the big BC EMU showdown and nobody is saying anything?  What is the problem?  Every time I look around at our games at Nininger, I see the EMU ladies waltzing in to watch us play.  Tomorrow they come for real.  I think it will be a good game.  I hope we stay focused because EMU has some potent weapons.  Stephanie Matthews--I've watched her play since 9th grade and she is terrific.  And there are several others that can be very damaging.  Go Eagles!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 21, 2006, 11:27:22 am
In regards to the post about giving Caroline Wesley no resect, that is not true. My picks were simply for the first team, and if I would have ventured further to give any second team picks, Wesley would definitely be a top candidate. I have seen Lynchburg play once, and that was actually the W & L game. Wesley did play limited minutes because of foul trouble, so I did not get a good look at her. Hunsinger still came up with a double-double (13 pts. and 10 rebounds) and she played very good defense (2 blocks).

I think Wesley is without a doubt a terrific player, Stephanie Tobey is doing an excellent job as a first year coach, and that Lynchburg is having a much better season then a lot of people thought they would have, (6-9 4-6). Turner Gym is turning out to be a tough place to play as the Hornets are now 5-3 at home. Good luck today against Guilford. That should be a good game!

I agree with you, onlinemom. I have seen EMU players on several occasions at Bridgewater games, and yes, today they are coming in for real. This game in recent years has received more hype because it has been typically two of the best teams in the ODAC playing. I am not saying anything against EMU, they are an excellent team and are very dangerous, they proved that against VWC. However, if Bridgewater plays the ball game the way they are capable of playing it, I think this game will go in the Eagles' favor. I am just cheering for a good game on both sides of the court. Good luck today!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on January 21, 2006, 02:23:42 pm
If we play our "A" we will have no problem, but we need 2 halfs of good bball, not just 1.  Go Lady Eagles!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 21, 2006, 02:32:35 pm
Definitely. If the Eagles play their "A" game it won't be a contest. BC came out very sloppy against W&L and got off to a slow start before pulling away in the second half. I don't think the Eagles can do that today against EMU. EMU has a lot of weapons and are a team with potential. Hopefully BC will come out firing on all cylinders and put this game away early. Go Eagles!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 21, 2006, 03:07:28 pm
If anyone has any information on any of the games that went on today, let us know. Thanks!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 21, 2006, 03:32:30 pm
Okay odacbballfan - I'll help you out.  It does seem pretty evident that Macon tries to pad Silva's stats. 

Does Silva lead the league in minutes played per game? If not this is all just jealous grumbling.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 21, 2006, 06:05:59 pm
Bridgewater 77
Eastern Mennonites 61

Final

It just ended here in Nininger Hall ... Marsha Kinder (BC) was on fire tonight ... not certain about her stat line, but it was near perfect it seemed.  BC was up 41-26 at the half, and I believe EMU got no closer than 12 points in the second half.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 21, 2006, 07:06:24 pm
Hollins' Colby Wilmer appears to be leading the ODAC in minutes per game at 39.5.
Guilford's Jennifer King, 38.6
RMWC's Sara Rechnitzer, 37.2
Hollins' LeAnn Woodley, 36.9
Bridgewater's Katy Herr, 35.5
RMWC's Meghan Stensrud, 34.8
W&L's Kristen Krouchick, 34.3
RMWC's Lianna Carrera, 34.0
Megan Silva, 33.3
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 21, 2006, 07:17:40 pm
Hollins' Colby Wilmer appears to be leading the ODAC in minutes per game at 39.5.
Guilford's Jennifer King, 38.6
RMWC's Sara Rechnitzer, 37.2
Hollins' LeAnn Woodley, 36.9
Bridgewater's Katy Herr, 35.5
RMWC's Meghan Stensrud, 34.8
W&L's Kristen Krouchick, 34.3
RMWC's Lianna Carrera, 34.0
Megan Silva, 33.3

Good job Pat. Was getting ready to post same. Things are always clearer using facts instead of emotions. Silva is 9th in playing time, 1st in scoring. If we want to point at padding we might want to look at someone like Guilford. King is 2nd in playing time and 2nd in scoring.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on January 21, 2006, 11:02:52 pm
I don't think comparing playing time and points is a good way to decide if a player is padding their stats.  It depends on the game itself. 1)  If a team is up by thirty and your best player is still in the game shooting the ball like it is a close game, than that is padding your stats. 2)If a team is in a bunch of close games, and you are the best player, than you better be in the game taking the 'big' shots. 

Just comparing playing time and pts isn't a good way to evaluate stat padding.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 21, 2006, 11:26:24 pm
WOW Finally a voice of reason, thanks EMUfan because I really don’t think people are even trying to understand the original point. It’s not the amount of minutes (Which if you look at it is filled mostly, I SAID MOSTLEY!!!! With girls from teams with not only losing records but with teams with only 8 dressed players!!! So you can’t really count them at least in my opinion) Back to the point, we aren’t talking about the minutes played just about when they are played. For example, Megan Silva played only 1 more minute today (40) in a close hard fought 10 point win over Roanoke then she did (39) in the 30 point blowout of VWC….Speaking of which, VWC beat Hollins today 93-44 and no one played over 20 minutes all 13 players on the roster played double digit minuets and all 13 scored.... no report on the web site if they knocked anyone to the ground and refused to help them up… Congratulations to the EAGLES with a big win over EMU at home, maybe the Royals should have taken some more notes during all those times they came to watch BC play.. (Sorry EMUFAN  ;) but thanks for the logic on the pt topic   ;D )
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 21, 2006, 11:32:00 pm
I don't think comparing playing time and points is a good way to decide if a player is padding their stats.  It depends on the game itself. 1)  If a team is up by thirty and your best player is still in the game shooting the ball like it is a close game, than that is padding your stats. 2)If a team is in a bunch of close games, and you are the best player, than you better be in the game taking the 'big' shots. 

Just comparing playing time and pts isn't a good way to evaluate stat padding.

Lets see...like Guilford eating Thiel by 20 and King playing all 40 minutes?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 21, 2006, 11:34:59 pm
I don't think comparing playing time and points is a good way to decide if a player is padding their stats.  It depends on the game itself. 1)  If a team is up by thirty and your best player is still in the game shooting the ball like it is a close game, than that is padding your stats. 2)If a team is in a bunch of close games, and you are the best player, than you better be in the game taking the 'big' shots. 

Just comparing playing time and pts isn't a good way to evaluate stat padding.

Like Guilford beating Thiel by 20 and King playing all 40 minutes?o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 21, 2006, 11:43:34 pm
or Kerr playing 38 minutes as BC beats W&L by 25
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 21, 2006, 11:50:39 pm
or Herr playing 35 minutes the second game BC beats W&L by 25 ???


  The fact is if RM wanted to pad Silva's stats she would be playing alot more than 33 minutes a game.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 22, 2006, 07:24:52 am
  BC came out and won in the first 7 minutes. Kinder came out on fire from 3 point range. The rest of the game was pretty even.
  It is time for BC to get some top 25 votes now.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2006, 08:08:49 am
Jennifer King is playing 40 min on a Guilford team that is dressing 8 (E I G H T) players, 2 of which or freshmen that were not on the roster first semester but because some players did not come back they added two bodies to fill uniforms. If you have a chance to watch this team warm up, you can find the new additions pretty easy, they are the ones that can’t walk and chew gum at the same time…… The Quakers are 4-10 So I am sure they were excited just to be in the lead of a ball game. Silva is averaging 33 on a team that has a +21 scoring margin. And I am going to say publicly that I think that stat is padded, I think she averages more than that. Its funny how she doesn’t seem to be in the games at home as long as she does on the road even in blow outs.. Maybe a little help from the SID there trying not to make the numbers look so inflated….Just a conspiracy theory that I thought would be fun to toss out there…And yes I will agree that sometimes Herr may stay in a game longer than needed as well. But to compare Jennifer King and her Situation and anyone at Hollins or RMWC and their playing time is absurd. That is just not comparable.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 22, 2006, 08:22:54 am
And I am going to say publicly that I think that stat is padded, I think she averages more than that. Its funny how she doesn’t seem to be in the games at home as long as she does on the road even in blow outs.. Maybe a little help from the SID there trying not to make the numbers look so inflated…

 :D :D :D lol....there you go wandering away again from the land of reality and facts. Quick go find Nurse Ratched so you don't miss your morning meds.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 22, 2006, 08:59:10 am
  BC came out and won in the first 7 minutes. Kinder came out on fire from 3 point range. The rest of the game was pretty even.
  It is time for BC to get some top 25 votes now.

Not with 4 losses.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2006, 09:05:42 am
Ok first of all it must be nice to have played 10 of your 14 first games at home. Ok here are the umbers:
10 games at home record of 9-1 Average minutes played 32.4, average points 21.2, +23.8 scoring margin vs teams. On the road in only 4 games 3-1 37.25 min per game, 21.25 points per game +17 scoring margin…. BUT ODACBBALLFAN those numbers are so skewed by the double overtime game at BC. Ok lets take that one out 33.6 min per game 18.3 points per game average scoring margin +23.3. Looks like Silva needs a lot more min on the road to score the same amount she does at home, or maybe she just plays just as much at home but it is hidden…. MAN IS THIS FUN OR WHAT HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on January 22, 2006, 11:29:45 am
Someone make a note on the front page when all the talk about padded stats ends on this board.....then I'll be back to read again.    :'(
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 22, 2006, 11:39:31 am
  BC came out and won in the first 7 minutes. Kinder came out on fire from 3 point range. The rest of the game was pretty even.
  It is time for BC to get some top 25 votes now.

Even if we finished the year with only four losses, we still won't receive a vote.  It's tough to in the that poll.  There is still a 14-1 Muhlenberg team (atop the Centennial Conference standings) who hasn't received a vote yet.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 22, 2006, 12:31:13 pm
Someone make a note on the front page when all the talk about padded stats ends on this board.....then I'll be back to read again. :'(

I agree with you, hoopstermom, all this talk is a little ridiculous. I don't really feel like talking about this topic, but I do want to set something straight. Katy Herr is left in the game not to pad her stats, she is left in the game because BC really does not have much depth at the point position. Herr is second on the team in shots taken, and she has only taken five shots more then Scales and 27 shots more the Childs.

Coach Willi leaves Herr out there to control the game. From the times I have seen the Eagles play, BC needs Herr out there! Herr is a point guard, she was 18th in the league in scoring the last time I checked. She is not left in the game to pad her stats, she stays in there to control the tempo of the game.

RMC has more depth at Silva's position to play around with, but this is Silva's last year, so let her run wild! I feel like that will benefit the ODAC for next year. RMC will truly miss Silva, I do not RMC will have anyone with shoes big enough to fill Silva's. She is an amazing player, and when you have a player like that, you use her. They rely on her so heavily, that next year Coach LaHaye will have quite a challenge in molding a non-Silva team together.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2006, 12:53:34 pm
Someone make a note on the front page when all the talk about padded stats ends on this board.....then I'll be back to read again.    :'(

Are you kidding me this is the best topic that has been on this board in a long time. just look at the conversation it has brought, and it's all true which makes it even better  :o
Title: GAVA: The following teams got top 25 votes last week:
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 22, 2006, 01:06:15 pm
Clark 11-4
Thomas More 13-5
UW Oshkosh 14-4
Wilmington 12-5

  I did not say the BC ladies were a top 25 team. I said they do deserve a few votes as some other teams with 4 and 5 losses have gotten. BC is perhaps a top 40 team on the Women's side.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2006, 01:19:14 pm
odacbballfan:

You can't pad minutes, especially on a point guard. If the stat crew were to, for whatever reason you want to conjur up, check her out of the game while she was still in, who would get point guard stats while she was out?

The mere size of your sample makes your comparison ridiculous. Is a three-game average statistically reliable? No way.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 22, 2006, 01:20:16 pm
I know Oshkosh is in a very tough league but for those 3 other teams my comparison is valid.
Title: Re: GAVA: The following teams got top 25 votes last week:
Post by: GAVA on January 22, 2006, 01:51:00 pm
Clark 11-4
Thomas More 13-5
UW Oshkosh 14-4
Wilmington 12-5

  I did not say the BC ladies were a top 25 team. I said they do deserve a few votes as some other teams with 4 and 5 losses have gotten. BC is perhaps a top 40 team on the Women's side.

agree with you there...you would think they would get a couple votes
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2006, 03:23:50 pm
Let's see -- other than UW-Oshkosh, which you already admit is worthy because of the strength of the WIAC, none of those teams had that many losses entering the week. All have lost this week, one of them twice.

Talk about comparing apples and oranges. When those teams were voted on, last Monday, they did not have those records. And I would be surprised if Thomas More and Clark got any votes at all next week.

So compare Bridgewater to teams that aren't going to get votes tomorrow if you like. That doesn't help Bridgewater's cause much.
Title: Bridgewater women may get a few top 25 votes:
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 22, 2006, 03:49:31 pm
The reality is that Wilmington and Thomas More did enter the week with 4 losses each and both got a few top 25 votes. If the BC women do not get any votes this week (you could make a case either way) they will after they defeat Hollins and Lynchburg this week.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 22, 2006, 03:52:29 pm
ODAC Scoreboard - Sunday, January 22
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#15 R-MC 97
HU 43
FINALSilva (R-MC) surpasses
2,000 points
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VWC 69
RC 67
FINALWheeler (VWC)
16 pts, 5 rebs
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Title: Re: Bridgewater women may get a few top 25 votes:
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2006, 04:03:14 pm
The reality is that Wilmington and Thomas More did enter the week with 4 losses each and both got a few top 25 votes. If the BC women do not get any votes this week (you could make a case either way) they will after they defeat Hollins and Lynchburg this week.

Why do you think so? Is there something about Lynchburg and Hollins that vault them into poll-worthiness over last week?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2006, 05:11:47 pm
odacbballfan:

You can't pad minutes, especially on a point guard. If the stat crew were to, for whatever reason you want to conjur up, check her out of the game while she was still in, who would get point guard stats while she was out?

The mere size of your sample makes your comparison ridiculous. Is a three-game average statistically reliable? No way.

It's a computer program. When the game is over you go in and look and see that Silva played 37 min in a 30 point game you just knock her down to 32 and give some one else some min. and it doesn't look as bad. That doesn't happen on the road so her number are acurate....It's not my fault they don't have any non-conference away games, might be another reason why they won't win the NCAA tounry cause they are home bodies.....Congratulations To Silva on her 2,000 points, have seen the stats from the game yet but I will give her what ever she scored today as legit try to get that record at home....
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2006, 05:27:24 pm
I don't think you're very familiar with stat crew. You'd have to go back in and change all the play-by-play involved with the time she was "out" as well as fabricate substitutions to get her out of the game.

Your line of accusation is growing tiresome and I don't know how much longer I'll tolerate your attempts to smear a sports information professional.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2006, 05:49:51 pm
So now we are going to started editing peoples opinions. You don't have to agree with what I say but i am sue I am not the only person in the ODAC that feels this way, even if those people aren't posting on this web page. The stat crew CAN be changed with just a few extra minutes of work, I HAVE USED and am very aware of the proccess, and if someone wanted to change it they very easly could. Fact of the matter is if every one would stop being so in awe of RMC and start paying attention to some of the things that goes on at that place they would be surprised. And i'm not even talking about girls bball any more I am talking about all the sports at that place. Go to a home game count the people there then check the attendance on the box score....Yeah try and figure those numbers out and make them add up. but hey you dont have to believe a word I say what do i know.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2006, 06:13:39 pm
Attendance is like that everywhere. You have got to be kidding me if you are going to hang any one particular school by that!

You can have any opinion you want. But at some point I'm not going to allow you to express that particular opinion on this board. This is private property and there are Terms of Service you need to abide by.

You have been formally warned. Think about it.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 22, 2006, 06:34:07 pm
 Yesterday I attended the BC/EMU game. Marsha Kinder made a free throw that was not put on the scoreboard. In addition, the score on the board as time expired was 78-60 for BC but then 10 seconds later it was edited to 77-61.
  I am not trying to start a controversy about something that did not matter at that stage and BC had its own scoreboard worker. Perhaps they did a review of the scoreboard log and found it should have been 77-61 and not 78 or 79-60 because that is my only explaination. The announcers on the radio (I had a portable radio at the game) kept bringing it up for almost 10 minutes.
  Kinder's free throw was in the 1st half and no lane violation was called by the refs.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 22, 2006, 06:36:38 pm
Pat you may be correct. We will see what your fellow voters decide Monday. If BC beats a decent Lynchburg team and Hollins and a few other teams lose then perhaps the Lady Eagles will get a few votes at that time.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2006, 06:38:51 pm
Yeah, I don't think Bridgewater's resume looks any better, but it's definitely true that some teams that got votes look worse. Voters could either choose to consolidate to other teams already on the ballot or strike out on their own.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2006, 06:46:31 pm
Randolph Macon is the greatest school ever. We should all be thankful that they ae in the ODAC. We should all bow down to them and treat them like gods. matter of fact I think the rest of the season should be forfitted and RMC should be declared ODAC champions. Every stat in the ODAC is on the up and up, and anyone who thinks differently should be excommunicated. And only a computer genius with years and years of hacking expericne could change a stat, not that any one has ever done that becuase that is a crazy, absurd idea its a copmuter it is always right.........But if the computer is so smart how come when Silva came out of the VWC game with 22 secods left she got credited with 39 min of play and we she came out with 30 seconds left in the roanoke game  saturday night she still got credited with 40 its a shame thee is no way to fix that huh.......Bottom line the orginla post drew intrest and made people weigh in and actualy take notice, i thought that was what this board was all about. As far as "smearing peoples names" I would be willing to stand beside any statement that I made, but i will withdraw the acusation if it will please you.... as far as BC etting votes for the top 25...Beating Randy Mac one time, while Seemingly defying all natural laws in accordance with this board, does not qualify the eagles for top 25, However for sure beating the GREAT teams from lynchburg and Hollins should push them over the top.... Are you kidding me? and what I am saying about stat padding is far fetched, Sometimes I wonder if people actually have any idea what is going on outside in the real world that a majority of us live in.....And Pat if you decide that this is my last post then I hope everyone enjoys patting each other on the back and telling each other how great and smart  they are and how much they know about basketball.....right up unitil Macon gets beat in the ODAC tournament., then know somewhere i will be sitting in the stands smiling patting my own back.
Title: Re: Bridgewater women may get a few top 25 votes:
Post by: GAVA on January 22, 2006, 06:47:18 pm
The reality is that Wilmington and Thomas More did enter the week with 4 losses each and both got a few top 25 votes. If the BC women do not get any votes this week (you could make a case either way) they will after they defeat Hollins and Lynchburg this week.
If BC can hold at 4 losses they will eventually not only get votes but crack the top 25. Last week no one with more than 2 losses made the top 25. But to win out for the rest of the year might be a stretch.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 22, 2006, 06:52:59 pm
So now we are going to started editing peoples opinions. You don't have to agree with what I say but i am sue I am not the only person in the ODAC that feels this way, even if those people aren't posting on this web page. The stat crew CAN be changed with just a few extra minutes of work, I HAVE USED and am very aware of the proccess, and if someone wanted to change it they very easly could. Fact of the matter is if every one would stop being so in awe of RMC and start paying attention to some of the things that goes on at that place they would be surprised. And i'm not even talking about girls bball any more I am talking about all the sports at that place. Go to a home game count the people there then check the attendance on the box score....Yeah try and figure those numbers out and make them add up. but hey you dont have to believe a word I say what do i know.

What is your problem with R-MC?  Did we deny you admission?  Or are you simply tired of losing to us? What issues are you referring to 'at that place'?  What specifically would surprise me or anyone else 'at that place'?  Your openended accusations are tiredsome.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 22, 2006, 06:59:56 pm
ODAC Scoreboard - Sunday, January 22
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#15 R-MC 97
HU 43
FINALSilva (R-MC) surpasses
2,000 points
--------------------quote]

Silva scores 31 in 29 minutes of play.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 22, 2006, 07:05:42 pm
.....right up unitil Macon gets beat in the ODAC tournament., then know somewhere i will be sitting in the stands smiling patting my own back.

Don't know what is behind your rage at RM and Silva but if you are going to say crazy things like the college cheats in all their sports you don't need to be posting on the ODAC board.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2006, 07:13:25 pm
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Don't know what is behind your rage at RM and Silva but if you are going to say crazy things like the college cheats in all their sports you don't need to be posting on the ODAC board.
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I would not call Stat padding, whether it be on or off the court, cheating. And never have I accused anyone of cheating, I don't remember saying Silva only scored 15 points today but she was credited with 31. That would be cheating. There is no question, that Silva is a great player and she earned every one of her 2,000 points (again congratulations) And i really dont have "rage" against RMC it is just amazing to me how EVERYONE, including non-RMS people run to their defense. I guess they are just following the old idea of "If you can't beat them, join them." Not me i'll just wait to watch them fall.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 22, 2006, 07:34:28 pm
I saw a Marlin player help up a fallen Maroon today.    :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 22, 2006, 07:38:13 pm
So now we are going to started editing peoples opinions. You don't have to agree with what I say but i am sue I am not the only person in the ODAC that feels this way, even if those people aren't posting on this web page. The stat crew CAN be changed with just a few extra minutes of work, I HAVE USED and am very aware of the proccess, and if someone wanted to change it they very easly could. Fact of the matter is if every one would stop being so in awe of RMC and start paying attention to some of the things that goes on at that place they would be surprised. And i'm not even talking about girls bball any more I am talking about all the sports at that place. Go to a home game count the people there then check the attendance on the box score....Yeah try and figure those numbers out and make them add up. but hey you dont have to believe a word I say what do i know.

What is your problem with R-MC?  Did we deny you admission?  Or are you simply tired of losing to us? What issues are you referring to 'at that place'?  What specifically would surprise me or anyone else 'at that place'?  Your openended accusations are tiredsome.

lol ... agreed.

I think we need to stop entertaining this poster.  He/she is clearly just uninformed or messing around.

Either way, I know that I'm at least done responding to him/her.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2006, 07:44:02 pm
I saw a Marlin player help up a fallen Maroon today.    :o

shhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone because that will go against thier ideals that everyone else in the ODAC is evil.......
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 22, 2006, 08:04:11 pm
I saw a Marlin player help up a fallen Maroon today.    :o

shhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone because that will go against thier ideals that everyone else in the ODAC is evil.......

In yesterday's game against Roanoke, there was a hard collison in the back court between Silva and a Roanoke defender, who laid on the floor for several minutes.  After the player was help to their bench and before play restarted, Silva went to the Roanoke bench to make sure she was okay.  Even though the defender was the aggressor and there was no call on the floor, Silva was concerned about the Roanoke player.  A class act by Silva.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2006, 08:11:15 pm
I saw a Marlin player help up a fallen Maroon today.    :o

shhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone because that will go against thier ideals that everyone else in the ODAC is evil.......

In yesterday's game against Roanoke, there was a hard collison in the back court between Silva and a Roanoke defender, who laid on the floor for several minutes.  After the player was help to their bench and before play restarted, Silva went to the Roanoke bench to make sure she was okay.  Even though the defender was the aggressor and there was no call on the floor, Silva was concerned about the Roanoke player.  A class act by Silva.

Again.... Just in case, because people seem to always read whatever they want. At no point in any of my posings have I ever said that Silva is anything but a class act. i wouldn't expect anything less from her. and I am sure that she was truley concerned about the injury.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 22, 2006, 08:44:46 pm
A note on this past Saturday's EMU/BC game...

The Royals' Stephanie Mathews was the third-best player I've seen this year.

I'm looking forward to seeing Jennifer King (GC) this coming weekend.  After seeing six of the ODAC teams, this is my current All-ODAC 1st team;

Orton (R-MC)
Mathews (EMU)
Kinder (BC)
Silva (R-MC)
Herr (BC)

I sure hope King doesn't impress me, because I would have no clue who I would take off the above list.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on January 22, 2006, 09:30:07 pm
If I had to take one person off of your list, I would take Orton off.  She is an average post player who is playing for a great team.  I am not taking anything away from her, but she gets the recognition because of the team she is associated with. I don't think she deserves to be on the pre-season all american team.  That is my main and only 'beef' with her.  Obviously, it isn't her fault, she didn't select herself.

EMU's Amanda Renelds deserves just as much praise as Orton.

Renalds leads in scoring while Orton leads in rebounding (conference stats only).  However, over their entire career, I would say that Renalds has had a more impressive individual career. 1000 pt scorer, and.  multi ODAC player of the week honors.


After a little research, their stats are pretty close.  These career stats are entering this season:
Renalds: 12.5 pts, 6.7 rebs.
Orton: 10.8, 7.1 rebs.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: wetback on January 22, 2006, 10:31:08 pm
RMC padding the stats for silva..?...?  It sucks that a person who puts so much hard work and time into something that they love, has to hear someone belittle all their efforts with a comment like that.  She is a tremendous player with more talent than I have ever seen, rumor has it that she was born with the spalding logo right under her right foot.  So lets try and give credit where credit is due, swallowing your pride and for once looking at her as someone who gave meaning to  the phrase "You can do anything you want, if you put your mind to it".
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 22, 2006, 10:47:23 pm
So now we are going to started editing peoples opinions. You don't have to agree with what I say but i am sue I am not the only person in the ODAC that feels this way, even if those people aren't posting on this web page. The stat crew CAN be changed with just a few extra minutes of work, I HAVE USED and am very aware of the proccess, and if someone wanted to change it they very easly could. Fact of the matter is if every one would stop being so in awe of RMC and start paying attention to some of the things that goes on at that place they would be surprised. And i'm not even talking about girls bball any more I am talking about all the sports at that place. Go to a home game count the people there then check the attendance on the box score....Yeah try and figure those numbers out and make them add up. but hey you dont have to believe a word I say what do i know.

What is your problem with R-MC?  Did we deny you admission?  Or are you simply tired of losing to us? What issues are you referring to 'at that place'?  What specifically would surprise me or anyone else 'at that place'?  Your openended accusations are tiredsome.

lol ... agreed.

I think we need to stop entertaining this poster.  He/she is clearly just uninformed or messing around.

Either way, I know that I'm at least done responding to him/her.



agreed
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: wetback on January 22, 2006, 11:56:43 pm
well at least we can scratch the whole fact of the matter.....clearly a jealousy issue.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 23, 2006, 07:46:35 am
Renalds leads in scoring while Orton leads in rebounding (conference stats only).  However, over their entire career, I would say that Renalds has had a more impressive individual career. 1000 pt scorer, and.  multi ODAC player of the week honors.


After a little research, their stats are pretty close.  These career stats are entering this season:
Renalds: 12.5 pts, 6.7 rebs.
Orton: 10.8, 7.1 rebs.


And this is what is so funny to me. Post after post about why anyone would pad stats, there is no reason to pad stats blah blah blah and then every post about the all ODAC team has been about players and their stats. So and so had these numbers she should be all-ODAC. I would just like to point out that on none of the all ODAC posts has there been a player from a team that is 13-4 overall (only 4 losses must mean they will be getting some top 25 votes i think they beat Hollins this weekend) and 10-2 in the conference. Why? Well I am guessing because they have only 1 player averaging in double figures because of the type system that they run. The highest min per game on the team is 24. No stats to speak of except 10 conference wins. Yes every player listed on all the all-odac posts are great players and worthy of the nominations, but just another example of how narrow-minded most of us are.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 23, 2006, 09:10:14 am
If I had to take one person off of your list, I would take Orton off.  She is an average post player who is playing for a great team.  I am not taking anything away from her, but she gets the recognition because of the team she is associated with. I don't think she deserves to be on the pre-season all american team.  That is my main and only 'beef' with her.  Obviously, it isn't her fault, she didn't select herself.

EMU's Amanda Renelds deserves just as much praise as Orton.

Renalds leads in scoring while Orton leads in rebounding (conference stats only).  However, over their entire career, I would say that Renalds has had a more impressive individual career. 1000 pt scorer, and.  multi ODAC player of the week honors.


After a little research, their stats are pretty close.  These career stats are entering this season:
Renalds: 12.5 pts, 6.7 rebs.
Orton: 10.8, 7.1 rebs.

I'm leaning towards that ... taking Orton off if King impresses me.  I was just trying not to be so guard-heavy on my All-ODAC 1st team ... but hey, if this is the year of the guard, then so be it.

I think there are four post players that are about even (but with strengths in different areas)...

Orton (R-MC)
Hunsinger (W&L)
Renalds (EMU)
Phillips (VWC)

IMO, Hunsinger is the better defender, while Phillips is the better rebounder.  Orton and Renalds do a great job of complimenting Silva and Mathews.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: upper90 on January 23, 2006, 10:08:15 am
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Renalds leads in scoring while Orton leads in rebounding (conference stats only).  However, over their entire career, I would say that Renalds has had a more impressive individual career. 1000 pt scorer, and.  multi ODAC player of the week honors.

Can you really count an impressive career toward an all-ODAC nomination, i mean that is the whole point to pass judgement on the year not the career.  If someone finally steps it up (which if you look at Orton and her ability to get up and down the court this year, to keep herself out of foul-trouble, and her basic unstoppablity under the rim, you would see why I would keep her on the all-ODAC team.) should you deny them what they have worked to improve upon?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 23, 2006, 10:43:56 am
[quote author=emufan

After a little research, their stats are pretty close.  These career stats are entering this season:
Renalds: 12.5 pts, 6.7 rebs.
Orton: 10.8, 7.1 rebs.


Quote

I think we should also take a look at their high school stats in order to break the tie.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on January 23, 2006, 02:50:25 pm
Upper 90,

I think you have to look at the entire career when the player is a senior.  Emily Mullet(EMU) scored over 1500 career points. Lead the nation in scoring and three point shooting throughout her career.    She was on some sort of "all odac" team for her first three years.  However, during her senior year, she had some coaches who surrounded her with good players and so her scoring dropped big time, but she picked up more wins.  What does the ODAC coaches do, leave her off  ALL  the end of the season odac teams.  Just NOT right.

Odacbballfan,

I think you are being sarcastic, but I will play along.  Renalds has two high school state championships.  Beat that!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 23, 2006, 03:27:46 pm
Is the Alll-ODAC team for the players with the best stats, or the best players that mean the most to their respective teams? My “non-look strictly at my stats based” All-ODAC team:

Katy Herr While yes she does have the “stats” she is also the unquestioned leader of the BC team. Without her BC isn’t even close to the top of the conference.

Jennifer King: Again another one with some pretty good “stats” but again another player who’s team may be winless without her. She can single handily carry that team, and most of the time has too.

Sara Rechnitze & Meghan Stensrudr: Are you kidding me. I mean if you look at this team on paper they are 7 deep, and yet every game they come to play, That is what an All-ODAC player should truly be. I would nominate this whole team. They are out manned at every position and yet they find a way to compete.

Erin Hanson: How quickly we forget. Last years ROY got off to a slow start but since going 2-5 to open the year the maroons had run off 7 straight until two tough losses this weekend. Basically riding the back of Hanson and her play

Michelle Orton: She is without question the catalyst of the RMC team. She makes it impossible for teams to focus on stopping her counter part Silva because of the fact that she can dominate a game from the low post. Without her in the middle of the offense Silva averages at least 8 points a game less.

2nd Team All Odac: The VWC basketball team. No stars just hard workers.

Yes I am aware that there is someone not on this list. But this is my list. My stats don’t really matter list. This list is about players who mean more to their team then just gaudy offensive numbers (which in the end is really what this team comes down to)  So be very careful about telling me what an idiot I am if you also say no one would ever try to pad their numbers.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 23, 2006, 07:04:24 pm
So the BC Ladies are not yet a top 41 team. Fair enough. You can make that case. But why is Wilmington #25?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 23, 2006, 08:25:39 pm
So the BC Ladies are not yet a top 41 team. Fair enough. You can make that case. But why is Wilmington #25?

I don't know except maybe 4 of their losses were to Top10 teams. ODAC not getting much respect. RM wins don't move them up either.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on January 23, 2006, 09:18:17 pm
I am a big EMU and ODAC basketball fan, but I think we are bring a little over zealous when we want two ODAC teams to be ranked.

1)I remember when EMU went to the sweet sixteen a couple of years ago.  The competition around the country is amazing and the ODAC isn't one of the best conferences. This was shown when EMU was blown out in the sweet 16.

2)  RMC made a great run last year  in the NCAA's but they breezed through the ODAC.  Showing no one was on their level.

3)  Another point, is that the D3 tournmant isn't set up like the D1 tourney so they seedings are based a lot of location and not the best teams 1-64. 

 No offense to BC, but they aren't a top 40 team in America.  Sorry!

Maybe Pat can inform us on who the better conferences are and where the ODAC ranks. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 23, 2006, 09:22:38 pm

Maybe Pat can inform us on who the better conferences are and where the ODAC ranks. 

That would be interesting.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 23, 2006, 09:25:08 pm
As long as 4 wins a year are coming against Hollins and RMWC there will never be two odac teams ranked.
Title: 2 of BC's losses were to top 15 teams:
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 23, 2006, 09:30:54 pm
Excellent point but 2 of BC's losses were also vs top 15 teams and another was to Oglethorpe who is getting top 25 votes.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 23, 2006, 09:36:48 pm
But look at the rest of he ODAC you have RMC at 13-2, BC 13-4, VWC 13-4 after that it gets a little shakey. EMU posts the next best record at 10-6, roanoke is the only other team with a winning record at 9-7. Then the next best record is 6-10.  Not a whole lot of room to argue if you ask me. Best bet win the tournament if you ask me. I think it wil be VERY interesting to see if RMC gets in if they fall in the tourny. (As i have predicted they will)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 23, 2006, 09:58:19 pm
But look at the rest of he ODAC you have RMC at 13-2, BC 13-4, VWC 13-4 after that it gets a little shakey. EMU posts the next best record at 10-6, roanoke is the only other team with a winning record at 9-7. Then the next best record is 6-10.  Not a whole lot of room to argue if you ask me. Best bet win the tournament if you ask me. I think it wil be VERY interesting to see if RMC gets in if they fall in the tourny. (As i have predicted they will)

Agreed that the ODAC is not a strong women's conference top to bottom.  As to RMC, how can you even think that they do not make it into the NCAAs?  Even as you say, they do not win the ODAC tourney, who will they lose to for the rest of the regular season?  Every team left has lost to the Jackets by 20, 30, 40 or over 50.  That's over 20 wins going into the ODAC tourney.  The Lady Jackets easily make it into the NCAAs regardless.  Your wishing the Jackets to fail will not keep them out.

By the way, who is your team?  Maybe it will shed light on your hate for RMC. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 23, 2006, 10:13:21 pm
20 wins gets you in? Hmmmm well BC and VWC both have a realistic chance at 20.  BC has beaten everyone left on their schedule, so I guess they will get an NCAA invite even if they don't win the tourny either. I mean by your logic, right? Or is this another one of those "only applies to the yellow jackets" statements....?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 23, 2006, 10:58:30 pm
20 wins gets you in? Hmmmm well BC and VWC both have a realistic chance at 20.  BC has beaten everyone left on their schedule, so I guess they will get an NCAA invite even if they don't win the tourny either. I mean by your logic, right? Or is this another one of those "only applies to the yellow jackets" statements....?

Like it or not, a team that's in the top 20 all year and is the reigning National runner-up will get more 'love' than a team (with a similar record) that's not getting any poll votes.  But I do think BC could also get in with 20+ wins and a good tourney showing.  VWC, less likely since they have to play BC and RMC again, having already lost to both teams.

So, who's your team?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 07:34:04 am
 I Have oppertunities to see many of the ODAC schools play. I did not graduate from any of the ODAC schools, so i have no allegiance . I just have not been brainwashed byt the play of one particular player in the conference.....Let me pose this question, I am sure I will here nothing but flack about it but what the heck.... Let's just say for the sake of having a little fun because I want to see what peoples response to this is...... Where to start.... Tomorrow there is a trade. Silva is dealt to Guilford for Jennifer king. Do the quakers get any better than the 6-10 team they are? Probabley not, Silva would score 40 points a game but with out any help that team would still not be that much better. Meanwhile Jennifer Kings numbers would probabley fall some but the Yellow Jackets would still be the "best" team in the ODAC. Am I saying King is as Good as Silva? No not even close, but it helps to be surrounded by better players... If Katie Herr is the starting guard at RMC i think she becomes the ODAC Player of the year and BC with Silva is still the 2nd best team. People think I am bashing Silva and I am not at all. 2,000 points at any school is a great accomplishment, and she is a great player, but people in his conference (coaches, officials, fans) treat her like she walks on water, and to my knowledge she hasn't done that yet.  YES she is the best all around player in the ODAC but the pieces she has around her sure help.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 24, 2006, 07:40:08 am
BC won 22 games last year but they did not make the NCAA's did they. At 23-5 they might get an at large bid.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 24, 2006, 09:04:54 am
Bridgewater finishing 23-5 (winning the rest of their regular season games and losing in the finals of the ODAC tournament) is quite lofty.  Roanoke (1/31), VWC (2/11) and EMU (2/18) will be tough games for the Eagles.

Also keep in mind that since the ODAC regular season schedule expanded to 20 conference games in 1995, Bridgewater hasn't finished any better than 17-3 (five times; '97, '98, '01, '02 and '04).  So to finish 19-1 would be quite a feat seeing that the Eagles have had some great teams since the late-90s.

But I agree ... if Bridgewater finishes 23-5 (19-1), having beaten R-MC once, I think they'll have a good shot.  If they don't get in, it'll be those two losses to begin the season in Georgia that might be the reason.

Of course this is all talk that the Eagles will fall in the ODAC tournament ... I think they have as good a shot as anyone to win it.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: sunny on January 24, 2006, 09:49:40 am
I think most of you are forgetting that the tournament has a larger field this year than last.  A resume that may not have gotten you in last year, could get you in this year.

Redgarding Bridgewater:  The Eagles have one WIN to hang their hats on (an overtime home win over Randolph-Macon).  They have the two losses to teams who are very good, but have shown they can't hang with the elites in their own conferences (Emory and Oglethorpe), the loss to RMC (giving them a split in the season series which won't be broken until they meet again) and an 18-point loss to unbeaten Mary Washington.  The Virginia Wesleyan win is OK, but I wouldn't put the Marlins in my top 55-60 nationally - their three strongest wins are at home against Salisbury and at Christopher Newport and Eastern Mennonite.  Bridgewater is having a very nice season, but if you took the time to look at all the resumes of potential Top 25 teams, you'd see they don't quite measure up.

Randolph-Macon doesn't have a very impressive schedule either (since there are so few non-conference games), but they are ranked because they've only lost twice (a four-point loss in the second game of the season and an overtime loss on the road) and yes, partially, because of their success last year. 

The D3hoops.com poll has NO bearing on the NCAA Tournament selection or seeding.  The NCAA committee has proven that year in and year out.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: eaglemaniac on January 24, 2006, 10:47:32 am
The latest Massey Ratings (424 Total Teams) has the the top 3 in the ODAC as follows:

RMC- #64
BC - # 66
VWU- # 116

Just another look at where some teams might be ranked overall.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 12:08:10 pm
 "their three strongest wins are at home against Salisbury and at Christopher Newport and Eastern Mennonite. "

VWC beat all three of those teams, including CNU and EMU on the road. So that would make the win over VWC bigger than those three wins, and that win still isn't that big. That is why they will nto be in the top 25
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 24, 2006, 01:06:38 pm
I Have oppertunities to see many of the ODAC schools play. I did not graduate from any of the ODAC schools, so i have no allegiance .

I don't know if you graduated from an ODAC school or not, but you frequently post from an ODAC school's campus, so I highly doubt your allegiance claim.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on January 24, 2006, 01:19:02 pm
Not to mention CNU blew a 20-point lead to VWC at home in that game, another comforting feeling for the Lady Captains.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 24, 2006, 01:41:46 pm
Congratulations to Guilford's Jennifer King for POW.  Last week, she took control and helped the Quakers earn two come from behind road victories they sorely needed.  I was impressed with her play at Rockingham Co. (NC) HS and was glad she chose Guilford.  She will be missed next year for sure.   Go Quakers!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 24, 2006, 02:15:50 pm
Pat, thanks for keeping Silva's pic and story up for several days on the front page.  It's got to be killing ODACbballfan.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 24, 2006, 02:21:40 pm
Uhh, thanks, although that's not the intent. Just wasn't any national news per se last night.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 04:14:19 pm
I’m fine with Silva being on the front page, 2,000 points at any level with any team is a great accomplishment, plus it gives national attention to the ODAC. I think you people have a hard time with basic reading comprehension. Silva is by far the best over-all player in the conference., I have said that repeatedly. She also plays on the best team in the conference, which helps her look even better. I just don’t get why people are in awe of her. Give her her props, just don’t treat her any different than any one else in the league………

“don't know if you graduated from an ODAC school or not, but you frequently post from an ODAC school's campus, so I highly doubt your allegiance claim.”

  Your IP address is shown only to you and moderators.

Come on free internet access, how can you pass that up ??
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 04:20:35 pm
And whats up with the Karma? Can a brother get some love or what?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 24, 2006, 04:48:53 pm
I think BC having a player with Big East experience at Point Guard and is finally playing at the level she did winning High School Championships in Virginia will help in the ODAC tournament.
  The WVU transfer may yet lead the Eagles to the NCAA's. The Marsha I saw play Saturday is healthy and ready to go get more trophies.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 24, 2006, 04:52:57 pm
When I attended a Bridgewater Sweet 16 game in 1998 vs Washington (MO) I think, it was clear that the Wisconsin and Missouri leagues were just better than the ODAC at that time. Even BC players from my era will tell you that. That is why I have no problem with Oshkosh getting votes.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 05:12:06 pm
I have no probem with  Oshkosh getting votes becuase it is fun to say... Oshkosh   Oshkosh   Oshkosh
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: sunny on January 24, 2006, 05:43:09 pm
"their three strongest wins are at home against Salisbury and at Christopher Newport and Eastern Mennonite. "

VWC beat all three of those teams, including CNU and EMU on the road. So that would make the win over VWC bigger than those three wins, and that win still isn't that big. That is why they will nto be in the top 25

I was referring to VWC in the above - those three wins are VWC's top three wins, thereby illustrating the point you just made.  Bridgewater's top win is the win over Randolph-Macon.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: sunny on January 24, 2006, 05:46:23 pm
I think you people have a hard time with basic reading comprehension. Silva is by far the best over-all player in the conference., I have said that repeatedly. She also plays on the best team in the conference, which helps her look even better. I just don’t get why people are in awe of her.

Maybe people are in awe of her because she "is by far the best over-all player in the conference" and she "plays on the best team in the conference, which helps her look even better."
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 05:47:51 pm
gotcha missed understood what you wrote.....
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 05:52:58 pm
But there are a lot of other very good players in ODAC that get over looked time and time again because the team they play on isn't as good as RMC. Which ws my point about if Silva was somewhere else. She would still prob be the best player in the league but she wouldn't get the attention because she wouoldn't be on the 1st place team. The situation she is in has put her so high up in peoples minds that she can do no wrong.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: sunny on January 24, 2006, 05:59:33 pm
But there are a lot of other very good players in ODAC that get over looked time and time again because the team they play on isn't as good as RMC. Which ws my point about if Silva was somewhere else. She would still prob be the best player in the league but she wouldn't get the attention because she wouoldn't be on the 1st place team. The situation she is in has put her so high up in peoples minds that she can do no wrong.

But then you've answered your own question.  You were wondering why people are in awe of her.  You admitted she was the best overall player in the league and that she gets more attention because she plays on a good team.  Is it unsual for a player in that circumstance to be so highly regarded, rightly or wrongly?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 06:14:00 pm
JJ is the best player in the ACC but if you get on any acc chat room board, fans from other teams will down play him. Here everyone is so in love with her that they will down play their teams to talk about how great she is. That is what i don't get. If you are a RMC fan then heck yeah enjoy it, if not then respect her and her abilties but stop telling her how good she is. No wonder when "your" team plays them they are already defeated. I mean if your own fans don't think you can win then how are you supposed to think you can win. I know many players in the ODAC read these posts so if I play for EMU and I see an royals fan talking about what a great player Silva is and how good RMC is and how she is the best player in the ODAC and we should all enjoy watching her then already in my mind i am beat.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 06:15:56 pm
I don't see too many RMC fans talking about how good other player s in the conference are
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on January 24, 2006, 09:14:08 pm
caroline wesley just put 26 points (10/12 overall, 6-6   from FT), 12 boards, 3 blocks, and 1 steal on the #15 RMC Yellow Jackets. 'Nuff Said.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 24, 2006, 09:34:01 pm
caroline wesley just put 26 points (10/12 overall, 6-6   from FT), 12 boards, 3 blocks, and 1 steal on the #15 RMC Yellow Jackets. 'Nuff Said.

Not to diminish a fine performance, but 18 of Wesley points and all of her rebounds were in the second half when the game was already out of hand with RMC ahead by as many as 31 pts.  But certainly a nice performance against a good team.

Will you be at RMC tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on January 24, 2006, 09:36:00 pm
caroline wesley just put 26 points (10/12 overall, 6-6   from FT), 12 boards, 3 blocks, and 1 steal on the #15 RMC Yellow Jackets. 'Nuff Said.

Not to diminish a fine performance, but 18 of Wesley points and all of her rebounds were in the second half when the game was already out of hand with RMC ahead by as many as 31 pts.  But certainly a nice performance against a good team.

Will you be at RMC tomorrow night?

that fact may even make the performance look better. she did all of that (minus 8 points) in the second half where she palyed 17 minutes. 18 points, 12 boards, 3 blocks, and 1 steal in 17 minutes is pretty darn good. I wasnt at the game, but she had 2 fouls and only 9 minutes in the first half, and scored 8 points. She surely would have had over 30 had she not gotten into foul trouble!

actually i wont, but i will be going to bridgewater on saturday
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 24, 2006, 09:46:31 pm
caroline wesley just put 26 points (10/12 overall, 6-6   from FT), 12 boards, 3 blocks, and 1 steal on the #15 RMC Yellow Jackets. 'Nuff Said.

Not to diminish a fine performance, but 18 of Wesley points and all of her rebounds were in the second half when the game was already out of hand with RMC ahead by as many as 31 pts.  But certainly a nice performance against a good team.

Will you be at RMC tomorrow night?

that fact may even make the performance look better. she did all of that (minus 8 points) in the second half where she palyed 17 minutes. 18 points, 12 boards, 3 blocks, and 1 steal in 17 minutes is pretty darn good. I wasnt at the game, but she had 2 fouls and only 9 minutes in the first half, and scored 8 points. She surely would have had over 30 had she not gotten into foul trouble!

actually i wont, but i will be going to bridgewater on saturday

Agreed, a nice performance, few players have done so well against RMC. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 24, 2006, 09:59:59 pm

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Not to diminish a fine performance, but 18 of Wesley points and all of her rebounds were in the second half when the game was already out of hand with RMC ahead by as many as 31 pts.  But certainly a nice performance against a good team.

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HAHA so if someone else does it in a 30 point blow out it "diminishes the performance" Now that is TRULEY NUFF SAID! Thanks for proving every point I have made the past two weeks 78RMC
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on January 24, 2006, 10:49:17 pm

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Not to diminish a fine performance, but 18 of Wesley points and all of her rebounds were in the second half when the game was already out of hand with RMC ahead by as many as 31 pts.  But certainly a nice performance against a good team.

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HAHA so if someone else does it in a 30 point blow out it "diminishes the performance" Now that is TRULEY NUFF SAID! Thanks for proving every point I have made the past two weeks 78RMC

You give me too much credit.  It would take someone much smarter than I to prove you right.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 24, 2006, 11:40:39 pm
  Why can't we all admit Silva has had the best overall career of any ODAC women's player and hope BC and RMC will meet in the ODAC finals so Kinder and Silva can settle who is the 2006 MVP on the court?
  Kinder is healthy and showing the talent she had at WVU in Morgantown before some very painful off court things happened. Just be civil and hope BC and RMC meet in the ODAC finals so this discussion can finally be answered one way or the other.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 25, 2006, 01:12:31 pm
Odacbballfan:

You get some "love" when you admit your allegiance to VWC.  It's obvious, have no shame, let yourself go.....it's ok!

PS:  Not hating on you because I am a VWC fan
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 25, 2006, 03:44:57 pm
Odacbballfan: I agree with justafan02, I think your allegiance falls to VWC. I
                       have been trying to figure this one out, and I have the same
                       assumption that justafan02 has, you're a Marlin fan. I also think
                       you're right, your controversial posts have produced a lot of
                       conversation on this board.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 25, 2006, 05:10:59 pm
http://mb19.scout.com/fwestvirginia18066frm18.showMessage?topicID=1442.topic
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 25, 2006, 06:17:57 pm
I am very offended.  Just because Coleman doesn't agree with a post - he reveals a person's IP?  What's that all about?  Also,  a healthy Marsha Kinder for 4 years would make mince meat of Silva.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 25, 2006, 07:27:42 pm
Mr. Coleman did not reveal is IP, yet said the poster posts from an ODAC schools IP adress. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 25, 2006, 09:13:43 pm
Just got word that BC defeated Hollins on the road tonight, 85-54. Everyone on the Eagles squad got to play. BC shot 82% from the field in the second half. They shot 73% for the game and 54% from behind the arc. Erica Lynott was 6-of-7 from the field, including 2-of-2 from long range, for a team-high 14 points. Herr and Kinder saw limited minutes tonight, with Kinder contributing just 5 points (14 below her season average) and 4 steals. Herr added 8 points and 6 assists. For Hollins LeighAnn Woodley led the way with a game-high 23 points and 6 assists. Good team effort by the Eagles!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 25, 2006, 09:49:31 pm
EMU with a big win over Noke tonight. Haven't seen any stats yet. The middle of the conference is pretty tight..... Tell ya what, the Marlins have a big weekend coming up at E&H and Guilford, they win those two and go 12-2 in the confrence at this point in the year after being preseason pick 6th i'll cheer for them.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 25, 2006, 10:00:05 pm
And Mr Colmen was just upset that I said something he didn't like about a friend of his. If he wants to give out hints to peoples IPs I guess that is his buisness. Just think everyone should know to be careful not to "cross the boss" per say.  Healthy Kinder for 4 years???? Scary thought!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 25, 2006, 10:15:41 pm
Does anyone know why Erin Hanson only played 11 minutes tonight in a 55-46 road loss to EMU?

I agree....a healthy Kinder for four years...WOW! I saw her in highschool when she played for Turner Ashby and won two state championships...she was something else!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 25, 2006, 10:18:08 pm
No i was wondering the same thing, looks like she may have been hurt or something. Anyone???????? 11 min won't even get her on my all stats dont matter team  :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 25, 2006, 10:18:27 pm
Despite the software's capabilities, our policy has not changed in seven years of running the message board.

And justafan02 is correct, isn't he/she?

You pretend to be something you're not, such as an impartial observer, you'll get called on it.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 25, 2006, 10:22:52 pm
I'm as impartial as anyone else on this board (he/she says with a smile) :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 25, 2006, 10:25:22 pm
Well I'll say this, I'm actually an alumnus of an ODAC school, but it's an ODAC football-only school, so I have no dog in this fight. And heck, Catholic wasn't even in the ODAC when I went there.

You guys can hold your own grudges and petty arguments if you like but I call them like I see them.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 25, 2006, 10:31:52 pm
Karma -12 I might as well just go jump off the closest building......Hmmm I wonder what "on campus" building that would be HAHAHA
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jimmy Mad on January 25, 2006, 10:56:40 pm
Hanson took a pretty bad spill in the first half.  After a collision she landed on the floor head first, I believe on her forehead.  They were considering taking her to the hospital but don't know for sure if they did.  Needless to say she didn't re-enter the game after that.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 25, 2006, 11:08:47 pm
the_knowledge:

Thanks for the information. That is too bad. Hanson is an incredible player. No wonder EMU came away with that win. Roanoke has been on a roll lately. Without Hanson, they would not have come away with six straight wins. Don't get me wrong, EMU is a very talented team, but I had bet on Roanoke to pull this one out with the way they were playing lately.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 25, 2006, 11:23:01 pm
Thanks for the info, sure hope she is ok!`
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 26, 2006, 05:37:18 am
Hope she is ok.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 26, 2006, 12:08:46 pm
Karma points come with honesty.   ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 26, 2006, 01:48:11 pm
maconmesick,

Welcome to the board, Lindsey (http://www.vwc.edu/athletics/wbasketball/season/05_06/roster/churchill.php).
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 26, 2006, 06:06:45 pm
Here is the schedule for this upcoming Saturday. What is everyone's picks? Just curious.

Sat. January 28th

BC at LC (BC)
EMU at RMWC (EMU)
VWC at E&H (VWC)
RMC at GC (RMC)
W&L at RC (RC) (only if Hanson plays)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on January 26, 2006, 06:42:42 pm
BC at LC (BC)
EMU at RMWC (EMU)
VWC at E&H (VWC)
RMC at GC (RMC)
W&L at RC (RC)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 26, 2006, 10:14:03 pm
BC
EMU
E&H
RMC
RC
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 26, 2006, 10:47:32 pm

Ditto...think this weekend are no brainers and no surprises.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 26, 2006, 10:49:13 pm
oops....see someone took E&H by mistake
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 26, 2006, 11:22:22 pm
Ok....I am going out on a limb...I have a little bit of different picks

BC at LC (BC)
EMU at RMWC (RMWC)
VWC at E&H (VWC)
RMC at GC (RMC)
W&L at RC (W&L)

I have gotten word that Hanson is out with a concussion. Without Hanson, I think Hunsinger will capitalize on that and turn in a big game. Of course, these are all just guesses.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on January 27, 2006, 12:12:27 am
maconmesick,

Welcome to the board, Lindsey (http://www.vwc.edu/athletics/wbasketball/season/05_06/roster/churchill.php).

Detective Email Addy strikes again. ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 27, 2006, 09:52:11 am
maconmesick,

Welcome to the board, Lindsey (http://www.vwc.edu/athletics/wbasketball/season/05_06/roster/churchill.php).

Detective Email Addy strikes again. ;D

This one wasn't all that hard. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 27, 2006, 10:51:50 am
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This one wasn't all that hard. :)
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Nor was it all that mature....
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 27, 2006, 11:12:12 am
Nor was it all that mature....

I gave you some karma for lecturing on maturity.  That was funny!  :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 27, 2006, 11:34:11 am
I guess people don't read the Terms of Service before they post.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on January 27, 2006, 01:21:39 pm
Ok....so I see GAVA said someone picked E&H over VWC....I saw that game in Norfolk this month and it was a 3 point game.....hardly enough points to think that there is no possible chance they would win.  I agree they are struggling this year...but that game was lost on coaching error.  So no...not a mistake.

My picks:
BC
EMU
E&H
RMC
W&L

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 27, 2006, 10:39:00 pm
I agree, emoryfan. I know the first meeting between VWC and E&H was a close one, and even though E&H hasn't had that much success this year, they still have the potential to surprise a few people with some big wins. Especially with that run and gun style they play in. If they're hitting their shots, Marlins beware! Should be a good game!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 27, 2006, 10:43:42 pm
maconmesick,

Welcome to the board, Lindsey (http://www.vwc.edu/athletics/wbasketball/season/05_06/roster/churchill.php).

maconmakeshersick? ...interesting as she considered playing at RM....guess sitting on the bench while averaging 3 ppg makes one a bit jealous of Silva and RM
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 27, 2006, 10:46:40 pm
I agree, emoryfan. I know the first meeting between VWC and E&H was a close one, and even though E&H hasn't had that much success this year, they still have the potential to surprise a few people with some big wins. Especially with that run and gun style they play in. If they're hitting their shots, Marlins beware! Should be a good game!

I could be wrong but always bet with the head, not the heart.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: huskiect on January 28, 2006, 09:51:00 am
I agree, emoryfan. I know the first meeting between VWC and E&H was a close one, and even though E&H hasn't had that much success this year, they still have the potential to surprise a few people with some big wins. Especially with that run and gun style they play in. If they're hitting their shots, Marlins beware! Should be a good game!

I could be wrong but always bet with the head, not the heart.

We will see  ::)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 28, 2006, 09:55:26 am
I would be interested in the stats on the home teams advantage in the E&H/VWC series. I can't imagine the road team has a good winning record after that travel time.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 28, 2006, 11:13:45 am
I do not know about the all-time series between VWC and E&H, but I know their series record dating back to the 2001-2002 season, five seasons ago. Coming into toay's game, E&H holds a 4-0 home court advantage over the Marlins over the past five years. VWC is 2-3 at home, including a 77-74 win earlier this season. So, the Marlins have not won at E&H since at least fiive years ago. However, the Marlins are a much improved team this year, and E&H is having a down year, so today's contest on the Wasps homecourt could be a different story then it has been in recent years. We will find out soon enough.
Title: In Bridgewater's programs the Men's weight is listed but not the Women's weight:
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 28, 2006, 12:59:43 pm
  I just found that interesting.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 28, 2006, 01:03:21 pm
Jeremybozz

I find that interesting also. In fact, I have been to several men's and women's games at UVA, and in the men's game-day program they list the men's weight, but for the women they do not. I guess even women-athletes are self-conscious about their weight.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 28, 2006, 02:49:53 pm
maconmesick,

Welcome to the board, Lindsey (http://www.vwc.edu/athletics/wbasketball/season/05_06/roster/churchill.php).

Kid,

Just curious as to why you posted that?  I don't think I have seen her post at all, but I could be wrong.  Just wonderin...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 28, 2006, 03:05:37 pm
Re:  E & H -- Run and Gun?  How about "Let's see how many 3's we can shoot?"  Ever heard of a post game?  Inside, outside??   I can see if it's working, but.....  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 28, 2006, 04:47:39 pm
Bridgewater beat Lynchburg, 92-52 - box score (http://www.lynchburg.edu/athletics/sports/basketball_w/2005-06%20stats/lcwom18.htm)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 28, 2006, 04:51:22 pm
maconmesick,

Welcome to the board, Lindsey (http://www.vwc.edu/athletics/wbasketball/season/05_06/roster/churchill.php).

Kid,

Just curious as to why you posted that?  I don't think I have seen her post at all, but I could be wrong.  Just wonderin...

About a day after she posted that, she deleted her post and name from the message board.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mom#15 on January 28, 2006, 05:33:23 pm
Anyone know the score at E & H vs VWC yet?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on January 28, 2006, 05:41:34 pm
Any score from the EMU-RMWC game?

Some ODAC schools have terrible websites for athletics and they are updated very late.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 28, 2006, 07:09:26 pm
RM 82-45 at Guilford

Silva 22 points in 30 minutes for RM

King 17 points in 38 minutes for GC
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 28, 2006, 07:20:46 pm
Any score from the EMU-RMWC game?

Some ODAC schools have terrible websites for athletics and they are updated very late.


EMU website....EMU 66 RMWC 49
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 28, 2006, 07:26:37 pm
Ok....I am going out on a limb...I have a little bit of different picks

BC at LC (BC)
EMU at RMWC (RMWC)
VWC at E&H (VWC)
RMC at GC (RMC)
W&L at RC (W&L)

I have gotten word that Hanson is out with a concussion. Without Hanson, I think Hunsinger will capitalize on that and turn in a big game. Of course, these are all just guesses.


  You called that right. RC website....W&L 78, RC 70.
You missed on expecting RMWC to pull an upset.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on January 28, 2006, 07:54:08 pm
82 E&H   68 VWC

Marlins shot 28% from field.....  :'(
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 28, 2006, 07:55:01 pm
Anyone know the score at E & H vs VWC yet?

E&H 82, VWC 68
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 28, 2006, 07:57:36 pm

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I could be wrong ...
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 :o and I was !
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 28, 2006, 07:58:39 pm

Marlins shot 28% from field.....  :'(

drops Marlins to third place
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on January 28, 2006, 08:17:50 pm
Quote

This one wasn't all that hard. :)
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Nor was it all that mature....

Hey Kid, I love all the posters who take your Post Pattern name so literally!  ;D ;D ;D
karma back atcha
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 28, 2006, 08:50:29 pm
Hey Kid, I love all the posters who take your Post Pattern name so literally!  ;D ;D ;D
karma back atcha

How about those who think you actually have llamas?  :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on January 28, 2006, 09:25:32 pm
Hey Kid, I love all the posters who take your Post Pattern name so literally!  ;D ;D ;D
karma back atcha

How about those who think you actually have llamas?  :D

Well I should just change my name to Babeguy in that case?  ;D ;D
Title: Will the BC Women get a vote this week in the poll?:
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 28, 2006, 09:30:18 pm
   We will have to wait and see but after the defeat of a half decent Hornet team I like BC's chances of being #41 or so.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on January 28, 2006, 10:29:24 pm
VALLEY and JEREMYBOZZ:  "I find that interesting also. In fact, I have been to several men's and women's games at UVA, and in the men's game-day program they list the men's weight, but for the women they do not. I guess even women-athletes are self-conscious about their weight."

That remark is really just unnecessary.  Weight is a pointless fact to be listed in a sports program.  Silva and Herr, whose names are as household as Baush & Lomb, didn't get that way because all of the hype about them being 120lbs, etc.  We might as well start listing what their favorite flavor of ice cream is, too.  And if you think weight is an issue with all women, then I know a stat that men would certainly not like listed in a program for all to see, and is just as arbitrary.  Just my thoughts...not trying to get all crazy feminist on ya. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on January 28, 2006, 10:39:39 pm
I know a stat that men would certainly not like listed in a program for all to see, and is just as arbitrary.  Just my thoughts...not trying to get all crazy feminist on ya. :)

I'm ok with it, they can go ahead and list my eye color in the game day program if they want. On second thought I can't palm a golf ball so you are right, keep it out of the program! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 28, 2006, 10:59:51 pm
Got all my picks right today.... i think.... slap some karma on me baby!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 29, 2006, 12:40:57 am
I did not mean to imply anything about any athlete I was just making an observation. My High School lists the weights of its Male and Female Hoops players.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 29, 2006, 12:44:19 am
VALLEY and JEREMYBOZZ:? "I find that interesting also. In fact, I have been to several men's and women's games at UVA, and in the men's game-day program they list the men's weight, but for the women they do not. I guess even women-athletes are self-conscious about their weight."

That remark is really just unnecessary.? Weight is a pointless fact to be listed in a sports program.? Silva and Herr, whose names are as household as Baush & Lomb, didn't get that way because all of the hype about them being 120lbs, etc.? We might as well start listing what their favorite flavor of ice cream is, too.? And if you think weight is an issue with all women, then I know a stat that men would certainly not like listed in a program for all to see, and is just as arbitrary.? Just my thoughts...not trying to get all crazy feminist on ya. :)

Old School Marlin

I meant nothing disrespectful by my comment. Myself and JeremyBozz were simply noting an interesting point. I do find it interesting that in most men's programs they list weight, but not in women's. Maybe I am just part of the easily amused club?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 29, 2006, 12:48:08 am
Got all my picks right today.... i think.... slap some karma on me baby!

BC
EMU
E&H
RMC
RC


Sorry odacbballfan. You did good picking the E&H upset, just like fairmont, but you did not pick the RC v. W&L game right. That was your one miss.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 29, 2006, 12:56:27 am
I agree, emoryfan. I know the first meeting between VWC and E&H was a close one, and even though E&H hasn't had that much success this year, they still have the potential to surprise a few people with some big wins. Especially with that run and gun style they play in. If they're hitting their shots, Marlins beware! Should be a good game!

Good pick by both Valley and Emoryfan. I think E&H definitely surprised a few people with this big win.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 29, 2006, 01:00:12 am
Here's what the picks looked for Saturday...........

Valley: 4-1 (even though he picked RC, he did say only if Hanson plays, and she didn't, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Here is the schedule for this upcoming Saturday. What is everyone's picks? Just curious.

Sat. January 28th

BC at LC (BC)
EMU at RMWC (EMU)
VWC at E&H (VWC)
RMC at GC (RMC)
W&L at RC (RC) (only if Hanson plays)

hoopstermom: 3-2

odacbballfan: 4-1

fairmont: 3-2

emoryfan: 5-0 :o

emoryfan takes the prize for the day! and after only three posts on this board!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 29, 2006, 01:40:47 am
This isn't favorite ice cream but it's in the ballpark. From VWC's website:
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Personal

    * Daughter of Deborah and William Barrett
    * Born 4-86 in Laurel, Maryland
    * Has two older sisters, Shannon and Aubrey
    * Enjoys rhythm and blues, rap and vacations in Ocean City, Maryland
    * A fan of the Los Angeles Sparks' Nikki Teasley and actor Johnny Depp
    * Favorites include the book "The Five People You Meet in Heaven" and the movie "Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken"
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-- Pat Coleman, enjoys mint chocolate chip and vacations in Salem, Va. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 08:27:53 am
I was 3-2 also. Missed E&H and W&L.


Here's what the picks looked for Saturday...........

Valley: 4-1 (even though he picked RC, he did say only if Hanson plays, and she didn't, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Here is the schedule for this upcoming Saturday. What is everyone's picks? Just curious.

Sat. January 28th

BC at LC (BC)
EMU at RMWC (EMU)
VWC at E&H (VWC)
RMC at GC (RMC)
W&L at RC (RC) (only if Hanson plays)

hoopstermom: 3-2

odacbballfan: 4-1

fairmont: 3-2

emoryfan: 5-0 :o

emoryfan takes the prize for the day! and after only three posts on this board!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 08:30:07 am
should have read " deeper, solidly, permanently into 3rd place". ;D


Marlins shot 28% from field.....  :'(

drops Marlins to third place
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 08:41:40 am
Sunday games:  Pick deadline 1 pm.

RM over E&H

any other games?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 08:49:30 am
Sunday games:  Pick deadline 1 pm.

RM over E&H

any other games?

and VWC over GC
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 09:21:49 am
Sunday games:  Pick deadline 1 pm.

RM over E&H

any other games?

and VWC over GC

That is only 2 games today. Pick deadline moved to 4 pm  ( game starts ).
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 29, 2006, 09:39:17 am
well 4-1 isn't bad i guess, I should have snuck (only if Hanson plays in there) I will try to do better today. VWC bounces back and beats the quakers and E&H (if they shoot at least 46% from the floor, make at least 11 three point shots, out rebound the Yellow Jackets by at least 10, and hold Macon under 70 points) upset the Yellow Jackets... That way if Macon still wins I can maybe still get credit for it :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 29, 2006, 11:59:11 am
Sorry that I missed you, GAVA.

"I was 3-2 also. Missed E&H and W&L."

My picks for today........

Guilford
RMC

(gotta go out on a limb again)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 29, 2006, 12:21:42 pm
No going out on a limb for me....I'm picking the favorites:

RMC
VWC

and just for fun...since today's picks have only two games that aren't that hard to predict....let's guess the final score of the RMC v. E&H game as a tie breaker to see who takes home the gold today.......my pick:

RMC 101
E&H 72
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 29, 2006, 01:57:07 pm
RMC 110
E&H 84
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 29, 2006, 02:30:35 pm
Re:  E & H vs. VWC - Ooops, guess the concept worked!   On the other upset, W & L appears to have played TEAM ball instead of "I" ball - coming away with a Big win.  Congratulations to both winners - the bottom and middle of the ODAC is becoming quite unpredictable.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 06:56:32 pm
No going out on a limb for me....I'm picking the favorites:

RMC
VWC

and just for fun...since today's picks have only two games that aren't that hard to predict....let's guess the final score of the RMC v. E&H game as a tie breaker to see who takes home the gold today.......my pick:

RMC 101
E&H 72


whoa...E&H played tough at home this weekend....won yesterday and lost by 3 to RM today. RM 78-75 ( RM website, no box score yet)

You guys don't need a tiebreaker since you had different picks in the VWC-GC game. So if VWC wins, could I get the gold since you were both off by 30 points? :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 07:00:50 pm
forget that...GC 79 VWC 64
King plays 38 minutes and scores 32
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 07:02:01 pm
fairmont wins today...good call
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 07:11:02 pm
forget that...GC 79 VWC 64
King plays 38 minutes and scores 32

Silva going to have tough time staying ahead of King in points with King playing 38 minutes a game. Silva's lead was only 23 points going into todays' games.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 07:13:22 pm
forget that...GC 79 VWC 64
King plays 38 minutes and scores 32

VWC descends into the middle of the pack. Looks like a 2 team league.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 29, 2006, 07:59:50 pm
Those 2 teams have split so what is the tie breaker if it comes down to that?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 29, 2006, 09:03:06 pm
forget that...GC 79 VWC 64
King plays 38 minutes and scores 32

Silva going to have tough time staying ahead of King in points with King playing 38 minutes a game. Silva's lead was only 23 points going into todays' games.

Silva didn't give up much of her lead today, scoring 29 points in 38 minutes of play.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on January 29, 2006, 10:11:28 pm
forget that...GC 79 VWC 64
King plays 38 minutes and scores 32

VWC descends into the middle of the pack. Looks like a 2 team league.

YES, Randolph-Macon is great, YES Bridgewater is great, but it has never been and will never be a two-team league or any other.  Every team in the ODAC is part of the league and any game can produce an unpredicted result.   
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on January 30, 2006, 09:17:14 am
I agree, the ODAC usually is a pretty balanced conference.  On any given night, there can be an upset.  That was proven this weekend.  I have to say E&H was tough at home this weekend......and from what I hear RMC was allowed a foul that should have been called in the last seconds of the game.  Not a great way to end that game .....but a good weekend for Emory to say the least.  :)

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on January 30, 2006, 10:34:36 am
By the way fairmont 1113.....I used to be a regular on the board.....but slacked off the past couple years.

So, big weekend ahead......any picks yet?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on January 30, 2006, 03:18:11 pm

 It has never been and will never be a two-team league or any other.  Every team in the ODAC is part of the league and any game can produce an unpredicted result.   

I guess that can definitely be said for softball right?  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on January 30, 2006, 07:57:45 pm
Ha!  We all know the best softball school isn't in the valley ~ it's on the coast  ;)  And don't forget, VWC is also undefeated in football since 1961.  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 30, 2006, 09:04:58 pm
forget that...GC 79 VWC 64
King plays 38 minutes and scores 32

VWC descends into the middle of the pack. Looks like a 2 team league.

YES, Randolph-Macon is great, YES Bridgewater is great, but it has never been and will never be a two-team league or any other.  Every team in the ODAC is part of the league and any game can produce an unpredicted result.   

But only 2 teams still contesting for regular season crown. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 30, 2006, 09:06:56 pm
Those 2 teams have split so what is the tie breaker if it comes down to that?

I don't know if we will get there. I don't see RM losing another conference game. They only have 4 left. BC has a tougher road with 7 more conference games.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on January 30, 2006, 11:03:03 pm
Ha!  We all know the best softball school isn't in the valley ~ it's on the coast  ;)  And don't forget, VWC is also undefeated in football since 1961.  ;D

Spoken like a true left fielder. :D

 As for football, bring back the fish because BC is getting bored eating bees,tigers,generals,and cardinals year in and year out!   :o he,he
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 30, 2006, 11:37:23 pm
sorry emoryfan, did not realize you were a veteran. Still, good picks on Saturday. I haven't thought too much about this weekend yet??
Title: Re: Will the BC Women get a vote this week in the poll?:
Post by: GAVA on January 31, 2006, 07:20:59 am
   We will have to wait and see but after the defeat of a half decent Hornet team I like BC's chances of being #41 or so.

RM moves up to #13. Still no votes for BC. :-\
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 31, 2006, 07:30:14 am
forget that...GC 79 VWC 64
King plays 38 minutes and scores 32

Silva going to have tough time staying ahead of King in points with King playing 38 minutes a game. Silva's lead was only 23 points going into todays' games.



Silva lead down to 18 points. King averaging greater than 5 minutes more playing time per game. 6 games each left. Silva's Sr. year. I say let her play all game every game to beat King. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 31, 2006, 07:22:47 pm
Darn it has gotten quiet in here since the Marlin players and fans quit posting. ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 31, 2006, 07:34:57 pm
Bridgewater 36
Roanoke 26

HALF

The Eagles finished the half on a 15-3 run.
Title: BC 72, Roanoke 51 FINAL
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 31, 2006, 09:50:33 pm
BC 72, Roanoke 51   FINAL

   Maybe the voters will take that into consideration next week if BC wins the rest of its games. One of BC's losses was to Mary Washington, the only unbeaten team in d3 women's hoops.
    I am not saying that BC is a top 25 team but I thought a voter or 2 would have BC ranked #25.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 01, 2006, 07:03:55 am
  As good as RMC is, no one can convince me they are at least 32 spots ahead of Bridgewater after they beat E&H by only 3.
Title: Re: BC 72, Roanoke 51 FINAL
Post by: sunny on February 01, 2006, 08:52:16 am
    I am not saying that BC is a top 25 team but I thought a voter or 2 would have BC ranked #25.

I've never understood this line of reasoning.  Voters are supposed to rank the top 25 teams, but it seems like a lot of people expect a voter or two to just throw a vote their school's way so that they show up in "others receiving votes."

If one voter put Bridgewater at 24, that's two points in the poll, but maybe that voter would be the only one who would put Bridgewater in the top 35, much less 25.  Meanwhile, Bridgewater is currently not receiving any top 25 votes, but might be in the top 30 of several voters.

This is why you can't put much stock in the vote totals of teams "receiving votes" outside of teams who finished just outside of the top 25 (within 10 points or less).  Because one, a couple, or a handful of people might put team A in the 20-25 range doesn't necessarily indicate where the 25 voters on average would place that team.  If you want to look at the voters' opinions on teams 26-50, you'd have to ask the voters to rank 50 teams.

The only thing you can conclude is that none of the voters put Bridgewater in their top 25 this week.  That's it.  You can't start counting all of the team's receiving votes and say that the voters ranked Bridgewater behind them all.  The voters are only asked to vote for 25 teams, not 45.  This also why it bothers me when a school promotes itself or an opponent as being ranked 29th or 33rd or whatever.  It's a top 25 poll.  If you aren't in the top 25, you aren't ranked.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: huskiect on February 01, 2006, 10:09:22 am
I like VWC. I read but do not often post. VWC did take it on the chin this weekend. It probably served several purposes that will make their team stronger. VWC has been facing some injuries that have not been talked about here. They are a team of many but they did have a rotation and were use to playing in certain spots and roles. Due to the injuries the team chemistry changed a bit. This has taken them a little time to get use to it.

They have a big game against RMC this weekend. They probably still will not be completely healthy. With a good finish to the year VWC will be the #3 seed. I think BC or RMC would not be happy to see them in their bracket.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 01, 2006, 10:50:17 am
forget that...GC 79 VWC 64
King plays 38 minutes and scores 32

Silva going to have tough time staying ahead of King in points with King playing 38 minutes a game. Silva's lead was only 23 points going into todays' games.



Silva lead down to 18 points. King averaging greater than 5 minutes more playing time per game. 6 games each left. Silva's Sr. year. I say let her play all game every game to beat King. :)
Well, it's King's Senior year too.  King needs to play those minutes to give the Quakers a chance to win, Silva may not.   Go Quakers!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 01, 2006, 10:52:52 am
  I can appreciate that Chicago has a tough schedule but so does BC. Chicago is 14-4 but #5 in their conference at 3-4 and Chicago has lost 3 of its last 4 games yet got votes.
  Catholic and BC are both 15-4 and have one common opponent. BC lost to Mary Washington 85-67 while Catholic lost to Mary Washington 70-51. If BC and Catholic would play it may go into overtime. Catholic got votes, BC did not.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 01, 2006, 10:55:54 am
  Christopher Newport lost to Virginia Wesleyan but beat Catholic by 2 points.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 01, 2006, 11:00:49 am
RMC should beat Alvernia tonight but will face a tough game at #41 Richard Stockton. That contest will be a back to back game night for both squads on Thursday.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 01, 2006, 11:04:51 am
  Mary Washington at Catholic should be interesting tonight ( I know Catholic does not compete in the ODAC in hoops).
  Mary Washington should have the edge but at home you never know what Catholic might do.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 01, 2006, 11:16:18 am
Otterbein is 15-4 while Trinity TX is 14-4. BC will face a tough game at Virginia Wesleyan while RMC gets to face VW at home.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: sunny on February 01, 2006, 11:54:33 am
 I can appreciate that Chicago has a tough schedule but so does BC. Chicago is 14-4 but #5 in their conference at 3-4 and Chicago has lost 3 of its last 4 games yet got votes.
  Catholic and BC are both 15-4 and have one common opponent. BC lost to Mary Washington 85-67 while Catholic lost to Mary Washington 70-51. If BC and Catholic would play it may go into overtime. Catholic got votes, BC did not.

You're forgetting that Catholic is the only team this year to beat Scranton, who is in the top five.  To some people, that makes a big difference.

Also, you don't know if Catholic is getting "votes."  They may just be getting one 21st place vote - that would give them their five points.  At MOST, five people voted for Catholic (if they all voted them 25th).  I don't think that's a ringing endorsement by the pollsters as a group for Catholic over Bridgewater. 

Once again, this is why looking at teams with a handful of points and saying "how come they got votes and our team didn't?" is a futile exercise.  You're chastising one to five voters, not 25.

Otterbein, Chicago, and Trinity (whose four losses are by a total of 15 points, including one in OT) both got fewer than 10 points as well.  If you want to make a case for Bridgewater being in the top 25, make a case for them over one of the teams in the top 25 or over Washington and Jefferson or George Fox (since they both narrowly missed out). 

Otherwise, you're not so much arguing why Bridgewater should be ranked, you're really just arguing why some of those teams that a couple people put at the bottom of their polls shouldn't be.  The majority of the voters agree with you that Trinity (TX), Otterbein, and Chicago shouldn't have been ranked this week.  That's why those teams aren't ranked.

I think a case can be made for Bridgewater over George Fox at this point in the season - I think some of the voters were out to lunch on George Fox this week. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 01, 2006, 08:44:45 pm

Silva lead down to 18 points. King averaging greater than 5 minutes more playing time per game. 6 games each left. Silva's Sr. year. I say let her play all game every game to beat King. :)
Quote
Well, it's King's Senior year too.  King needs to play those minutes to give the Quakers a chance to win, Silva may not.   Go Quakers!
Quote

Not true. King plays 38 minutes per game, even when they win by 15 like last 2 games. This is about being ODAC's leading scorer ( actually highest ppg as RM plays a game less than GC ).
I say let them both play all the time and shoot it out. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 01, 2006, 08:56:07 pm
RMC should beat Alvernia tonight

RM wins 79-67. Goes 15 of 16 from charity stripe. Silva only scores 10 in 32 minutes.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 01, 2006, 09:34:44 pm
Very well-balanced attack for RMC tonight against Alvernia. Senske and Orton both recorded double-doubles for the evening in points and rebounds.

I continue to be impressed with Katy Herr's rebounding....last night against Roanoke she lead BC in rebounding...the sixth time this season that has happened...it is also her second double-double of the season for points and rebounds, and the third time she has had double digits in rebounds. She is tied for BC's top-rebounder with Amy Childs.

What does everyone think? Is it a good thing to have the shortest player on the team lead you in rebounds? Herr is an amazing player and does a great job crashing the boards from the wing, but does it show a weakness for the team having your point guard lead you in rebounding?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 02, 2006, 12:34:06 am
Mary Washington won 63-61 vs Catholic on a shot at the buzzer to remain the lone unbeaten in D3 Women's hoops.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 02, 2006, 11:46:58 am
Congratulations to the Quakers for their 78-63 road win over Hollins Tuesday night.  Guilford improves to 8-11, 7-7 while HU falls to 0-18, 0-13.  Looks like King got 21 points, but the box did not mention minutes played.

If I remember correctly, Silva got 10 in the last RMC game, so the gap in the ODAC scoring race has tightened.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on February 02, 2006, 12:02:30 pm
Congratulations to the Quakers for their 78-63 road win over Hollins last night. Guilford improves to 8-11, 7-7 while HU falls to 0-18, 0-13. Looks like King got 21 points, but the box did not mention minutes played.

If I remember correctly, Silva got 10 in the last RMC game, so the gap in the ODAC scoring race has tightened.

Do ya'll keep bringing this up because you think its King vs. Silva for POY? Also, you need to remember that Silva surpassed the ODAC record in assists last night with 630. Highes total points scored in the regular season is really no big deal. There alot of factors involded - minutes, strength of team, assists, etc.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 02, 2006, 12:35:01 pm
Congratulations to the Quakers for their 78-63 road win over Hollins last night. Guilford improves to 8-11, 7-7 while HU falls to 0-18, 0-13. Looks like King got 21 points, but the box did not mention minutes played.

If I remember correctly, Silva got 10 in the last RMC game, so the gap in the ODAC scoring race has tightened.
Do ya'll keep bringing this up because you think its King vs. Silva for POY? Also, you need to remember that Silva surpassed the ODAC record in assists last night with 630. Highes total points scored in the regular season is really no big deal. There alot of factors involded - minutes, strength of team, assists, etc.
No, not at all.  As of today, I think Silva should be POY.  I agree, a lot of factors should be considered, including, in my opinion, overall team success.  I just brought it up because the scoring race is so tight - nothing more, nothing less - just innocuous facts.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on February 02, 2006, 12:40:24 pm
Oh ok - Silva is rated as one of the Top 5 D3 Womens Hoops players in the Nation. Therefore unless Herr and King are rated in the Top 4 D3 Womens Hoops players in the Nation then there is no boubt that Silva will be POY. I doubt that even matters to her though - RMC is in search of something this post season much greater than generating an ODAC POY and a couple 1st/2nd teamers.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 02, 2006, 12:52:20 pm
Oh ok - Silva is rated as one of the Top 5 D3 Womens Hoops players in the Nation. Therefore unless Herr and King are rated in the Top 4 D3 Womens Hoops players in the Nation then there is no boubt that Silva will be POY. I doubt that even matters to her though - RMC is in search of something this post season much greater than generating an ODAC POY and a couple 1st/2nd teamers.
I agree with you.  I told you I agree with you.  Are you trying to convince yourself?  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on February 02, 2006, 12:55:48 pm
No that was just kinda general information. Some others on here probably do not agree with me. It doesnt matter - just FYI.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on February 02, 2006, 01:12:17 pm
If I have heard right, BC coach Jean Willi will be going for her 200th career victory Saturday when the Wasps travel to Bridgewater.  Good luck coach Willi on the accomplishment
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on February 02, 2006, 01:54:14 pm
That would be on Sunday that the Wasps play at Bridgewater.  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on February 02, 2006, 05:50:13 pm
Sorry about that EmoryFan...I meant against Guilford Saturday.  201 will be sunday
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 02, 2006, 07:15:52 pm
Sorry about that EmoryFan...I meant against Guilford Saturday.  201 will be sunday
Hmmm ... well, here's hoping #200 will be delayed until after Saturday's game versus Guilford.  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: deanslist on February 02, 2006, 07:52:20 pm
Anyone have an update on the EMU-LC game?
Title: Lynchburg 69, EMU 62 FINAL
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 03, 2006, 01:02:35 am
   Hornets win.
Title: #13 Randolph Macon 63, #41 Richard Stockton 56:
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 03, 2006, 01:07:07 am
   RMC with a big win.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on February 03, 2006, 07:42:17 am
Not a good loss for EMU last night. Any details on how the Hornets gained such a big lead?

 Hopefully, EMU can have a good weekend against GC and E&H. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on February 03, 2006, 08:10:56 am
Well, my bad for the correction bcsportswriter.....

I'm hoping 201 will not be happening on Sunday either... :o
Title: Re: #13 Randolph Macon 63, #41 Richard Stockton 56:
Post by: GAVA on February 03, 2006, 06:20:20 pm
   RMC with a big win.

Silva plays entire game, scores 27.
Title: Re: #13 Randolph Macon 63, #41 Richard Stockton 56:
Post by: GAVA on February 03, 2006, 06:26:35 pm

Silva plays entire game
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which is what she will need to do in the last 4 games to maintain ODAC leading scorer rank. King will be doing same with GC trying to catch Silva.
Title: Re: #13 Randolph Macon 63, #41 Richard Stockton 56:
Post by: GAVA on February 03, 2006, 06:33:12 pm


 to maintain ODAC leading scorer rank.
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According to ODAC website Silva is also currently leading scorer in D3 hoops.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 04, 2006, 12:07:57 pm
Don't know if its too late...but any guesses about today's games?

GC at BC (1:00)
E&H at EMU (2:00)
LC at RC (2:00)
RMWC at W&L (2:00)

I am going to go with all the home teams here....I had a tough time with Lynchburg @ RC....but I think RC has Hanson back now...and even though Lynchburg is coming off a big win against EMU...they seem to be inconsistent and I think RC will be ready to play. Good luck to all the teams today!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 04, 2006, 12:18:33 pm
GC at BC (1:00)
E&H at EMU (2:00)
LC at RC (2:00)
RMWC at W&L (2:00)


Once again...gotta be different. I think E&H are going to continue their hot streak on the road today against EMU....The Wasps had an excellent run last weekend with a 14-point win over VWC and a tough 3-point loss to RMC. I also think RMWC has a good chance to grab a big road win over W&L today. The middle of the ODAC is very close, and so every game is a big one! Good luck today!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 04, 2006, 12:25:46 pm
Good luck to Coach Jean Willi of Bridgewater as she tries to pick up her 200th career win today against Guilford! Also, Coach Willi is on her way to guiding the Eagles to their ninth 20 win season in the last ten years! Way to go!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 04, 2006, 03:33:46 pm
Coach Willi picks up #200! BC rolled to a 87-52 victory! Lone senior Marsha Kinder put on a good show for Bridgewater's senior night scoring 18 points to lead the Eagles. Kinder also contributed 7 rebounds. Shannon Scales and Torri Ruckman each had 13 points for BC while Katy Herr chipped in 6 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists, and 3 steals. Good game by BC!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 04, 2006, 05:57:01 pm
Coach Willi picks up #200! BC rolled to a 87-52 victory! Lone senior Marsha Kinder put on a good show for Bridgewater's senior night scoring 18 points to lead the Eagles. Kinder also contributed 7 rebounds. Shannon Scales and Torri Ruckman each had 13 points for BC while Katy Herr chipped in 6 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists, and 3 steals. Good game by BC!

Congrats BC. Do you have a link to the boxscore? BC continuing to win is good for ODAC.
Title: Re: #13 Randolph Macon 63, #41 Richard Stockton 56:
Post by: GAVA on February 04, 2006, 06:13:42 pm
 King will be doing same with GC trying to catch Silva.
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King plays entire game in 35 point loss to BC. Scores 19.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 04, 2006, 06:19:58 pm
GC at BC (1:00)
E&H at EMU (2:00)
LC at RC (2:00)
RMWC at W&L (2:00)


Once again...gotta be different. I think E&H are going to continue their hot streak on the road today against EMU....The Wasps had an excellent run last weekend with a 14-point win over VWC and a tough 3-point loss to RMC. I also think RMWC has a good chance to grab a big road win over W&L today. The middle of the ODAC is very close, and so every game is a big one! Good luck today!

good call again fairmont. I think it is you on the hot streak.

E&H beats EMU 66-58
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 04, 2006, 06:22:30 pm
RC79 LC43
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 04, 2006, 06:26:49 pm
W&L 68 RMWC 48
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 04, 2006, 11:26:18 pm
Thank you GAVA. I was a little worried at halftime of the E&H v. EMU game, I thought my pick might be wrong, but E&H had a very strong second half.

Here's my picks for tomorrow.....

E&H at BC (1:00)
GC at EMU (1:00)
LC at W&L (2:00)
VWC at RMC (2:00)
RC at RMWC (3:00)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 05, 2006, 09:06:24 am
I have to agree with all your picks fairmont. And may Silva play 40 and score 40 in her last regular season home game. ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 05, 2006, 09:07:55 am
where did all those marlin players go who were posing and posting on this board? ::)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on February 05, 2006, 04:42:41 pm
EMU picks up a 66-53 win over Guilford today.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 05, 2006, 07:09:42 pm
Great game for BC today! Eagles win it 84-61 over E&H. BC was up by only three points at half time.

Katy Herr had a stellar game, just missing a triple-double, with 24 points on 9-of-11 shooting. Herr also had 10 assists, 8 rebounds, and 4 steals. Herr also reached 300 career assists after today's effort, moving her into the top 10 all-time assist leaders at BC.

Marsha Kinder also had a great game with 17 points, 7 assists, and 7 rebounds. Good job today Eagles!

(BC also won the men's game over E&H, making it a clean sweap for BC)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 05, 2006, 07:12:39 pm
Thank you GAVA. I was a little worried at halftime of the E&H v. EMU game, I thought my pick might be wrong, but E&H had a very strong second half.

Here's my picks for tomorrow.....

E&H at BC (1:00)
GC at EMU (1:00)
LC at W&L (2:00)
VWC at RMC (2:00)
RC at RMWC (3:00)

I have to agree with all your picks fairmont. And may Silva play 40 and score 40 in her last regular season home game. ;D

Well, GAVA, looks like we were right. No surprises in today's games.
King has 26 points today while Silva has 16.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 05, 2006, 09:22:23 pm
I got a chance to see E&H play twice this weekend. On Saturday @ EMU and then again on Sunday @ Bridgewater. I have to say, I just do not understand their strategy? They shoot a lot of 3-pointers (79 opposed to their oppenents 30) and they subbed five in-five out about every two to three minutes. I do not get it? I think they have some very talented players, but can they get in a good groove playing only several minutes at a time?

There was not much difference between the EMU and BC games. In both games the Wasps shot around 30%, in both games the Wasps mirrored their opponents turnovers, against BC the rebounds were even and against EMU they outrebounded the Royals by 5, E&H scored 66 against EMU and 61 against BC. Against BC the Wasps got off 75 shots and they got off 70 against EMU. So, how did EMU lose by 8 and BC win by 23?

Oh yeah, the Eagles had Katy Herr! What a game! I have seen a lot of ODAC games this year, and that was one of the best single game performances I have seen all year! Herr missed her first two shots, and then did not miss the rest of the game going 9-of-11 for 24 points. She had 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 4 steals, and 1 turnover, all in 30 minutes of action. Her defense was phenomenal, she handled the Wasps press with ease, and she had great passes all game long. The Eagles were only up by 3 at half, but Herr exploded for 16 second-half points to carry the Eagles to victory. Great job today!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 05, 2006, 10:33:35 pm
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Well, GAVA, looks like we were right. No surprises in today's games.
King has 26 points today while Silva has 16.
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It was Senior's Day at RM but freshman guard Hiltunen ( same HS as Silva ) also had 16 points in only 20 minutes off the bench.
Title: If the BC women get no votes this week they won't all year:
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 06, 2006, 12:26:24 am
  Today I watched the BC Women win by 23 over a team that lost by 3 points to #13 RMC recently.
Title: OT: Congrats Outsider 14 on Uncle getting Super Bowl ring:
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 06, 2006, 06:52:36 am
  Uncle Colbert is in the Steelers Front Office.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on February 06, 2006, 09:29:39 am
I got a chance to see E&H play twice this weekend. On Saturday @ EMU and then again on Sunday @ Bridgewater. I have to say, I just do not understand their strategy? They shoot a lot of 3-pointers (79 opposed to their oppenents 30) and they subbed five in-five out about every two to three minutes. I do not get it? I think they have some very talented players, but can they get in a good groove playing only several minutes at a time?

There was not much difference between the EMU and BC games. In both games the Wasps shot around 30%, in both games the Wasps mirrored their opponents turnovers, against BC the rebounds were even and against EMU they outrebounded the Royals by 5, E&H scored 66 against EMU and 61 against BC. Against BC the Wasps got off 75 shots and they got off 70 against EMU. So, how did EMU lose by 8 and BC win by 23?

Oh yeah, the Eagles had Katy Herr! What a game! I have seen a lot of ODAC games this year, and that was one of the best single game performances I have seen all year! Herr missed her first two shots, and then did not miss the rest of the game going 9-of-11 for 24 points. She had 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 4 steals, and 1 turnover, all in 30 minutes of action. Her defense was phenomenal, she handled the Wasps press with ease, and she had great passes all game long. The Eagles were only up by 3 at half, but Herr exploded for 16 second-half points to carry the Eagles to victory. Great job today!

I completely agree.  Wasted talent this year......not the best job of coaching this year by Coach Scruggs. ???  Hopefully, they can make the rest of the season respectable, especially for the departing seniors. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on February 06, 2006, 05:55:19 pm
Where did Scruggs get the idea - all of a sudden- that this would be a good game plan??  I guess it you throw enough mud pies up against the wall, you will eventually get a bulls-eye.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on February 06, 2006, 05:57:36 pm
BC got 2 measly votes in this week's D3.com poll.....wahoo.

Cant wait for the tournament....should be a fun one
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 06, 2006, 06:05:45 pm
It was a great weekend at BC! Here are some highlights....

Coach Jean Willi picks up her 200th career win on Saturday against Guilford, and #201 against E&H on Sunday!

BC runs their winning streak to 12 straight games!

Katy Herr plays exceptional, Bridgewater men's star Clay Michael scores his 1,000th point on Sunday in a win over E&H, and both Michael and Herr are awarded ODAC Player of the Week honors!

BC is now getting votes for the top 25!

Very good weekend! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 06, 2006, 06:12:14 pm
Where did Scruggs get the idea - all of a sudden- that this would be a good game plan?? I guess it you throw enough mud pies up against the wall, you will eventually get a bulls-eye.

I totally agree with everyone. I do not understand this philosophy at all. However, was this Scruggs' idea? I have had a lot of respect for Scruggs since I have started following the ODAC, and I can not imagine why she would implement a strategy like this? The only thing that makes me wonder if it wasn't Scruggs' idea is the fact that the men's team does the exact same thing. The E&H men shot 75, that's right, 75 three-point field goals on Sunday @ BC!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 06, 2006, 10:11:12 pm
One can hardly blame Coach Scruggs for trying to give her team an edge against competitors in the league who play 6-8 players in a slower-paced manipulated offense.  Grinnell style basketball (or as the E&H men's coach refers to as "run and fun"), is typically a hard style to implement in women's basketball because you force a lot of mediocre outside shooters to lob up 3-pointers any chance they get.   (And I'm not saying the men are any better).  A big problem we had at VWC in 1999-2000 using the same philosophy was that we never had our 5 best players on the court at any time.  Finding the right chemistry within 2 or 3 teams of five is hard.  And whenever a player gets hot and nails two or three big shots in a row, they are yanked after their allotted 2 minutes and subbed out.  It's an easier style to work yourselves into after a few years when you've recruited for it and players know how to change their game and mentality.  The Grinnell style seems to work well when you have a great team bottom to top who are fast and can hit the three's, but trying to force a team into it makes them reevaluate what they've always been taught  - work the offense, take the good shot, play strong team D, crash the boards, etc...

Although we tried, our squad went from losing games in fistfulls to dropping the philosophy and playing good, smart basketball in it's finest form - and finally getting the W's, giving us confidence back in our program.  It's a valient effort, but we can't all be Grinnell.
Title: BC Women are #35:
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 07, 2006, 12:47:05 am
  I will not complain. I will celebrate the results of this poll.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on February 07, 2006, 11:23:42 am
Well I believe it was a lack of inside prescence for Coach Scruggs that made her decide to try something different.  However, I don't think E&H has enough players to do that type of game.  The "run and gun" with about 2 rotations won't work.  Then, as OldSchoolMarlin said, a team or player gets in a groove and their time is up and they are yanked.  I am not a big fan of it at all.  Some aspects of it are good, and I think they can be incorporated into traditional style basketball and work well, however, I agree that it all goes against everything players are taught in all their years of playing.  Bad call this year when I think the talent could have been utilized differently and probably had a better outcome.  Hopefully, there will a respectable end to the season.

OldSchoolMarlin,
I didn't realize that you guys tried this style of play in '99-'00......I always remembered you guys being "up and down----up and down", but I didn't realize that is something you all were doing.  Maybe Coach Wrenn had a similar thought to Scruggs about trying this out.......who knows!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 07, 2006, 02:02:08 pm
Yes, Coach Renn had a vision with the Grinnell style, and we worked hard at it for her, but we had a hard time believing in it, which is very important for any team concerning their team philosophy.  We were all trained to be quick and run the ball up and down the court as you said (we had a 4 second drill to get the ball out of bounds and score out of our secondary on the other end - we ran a lot of suicides for that!)  A few games after Christmas break, it was hard to swallow that it wasn't working out that well, but what determines a great coach is his/her ability to admit when something isn't working and move on to a different strategy.  I haven't seen E&H play this year, but there is not doubt that Joy Scruggs is a great coach and she will give her team all the tools to succeed.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on February 07, 2006, 06:19:01 pm
Coach Scruggs may be a good coach.  But she has not done whatever is necessary to win.  She DOES have an inside presence - she is just not using it - for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 08, 2006, 01:32:53 pm
I just took a look at the ODAC scoring race:  RMC's Silva has 479 points in 21 games which is 22.81 ppg and GC's King has 496 points in 22 games which is 22.55 ppg.  It should be interesting to see how this ends as the season winds down.   :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 08, 2006, 06:09:24 pm
The first regional rankings came out today (http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/?p=125) and they have both Randolph-Macon and Bridgewater ranked in the top 6 teams of the South Region. RMC is 3rd and BC is 6th.

Also, Katy Herr was named to the National Team of the Week for the second time this year! What a week for Herr! Let's hope Herr and BC can keep it going!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 09, 2006, 10:52:44 pm
BC wins tonight 86-53 over RMWC for their 13th straight win!

Katy Herr continues to play well scoring 18 points on 7-of-10 shooting in just 20 minutes of action. Herr also contributed 5 steals. Marsha Kinder shot lights out, shooting 6-of-7 including 3-of-4 from long range for a game-high 24 points.

Jennifer Prewitt led RMWC in both points and rebounds with 20 and 10.

BC travels to VWC this Saturday for a very important road game. Good luck to the Eagles!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 10, 2006, 04:40:29 pm
BC wins tonight 86-53 over RMWC for their 13th straight win!

Katy Herr continues to play well scoring 18 points on 7-of-10 shooting in just 20 minutes of action. Herr also contributed 5 steals. Marsha Kinder shot lights out, shooting 6-of-7 including 3-of-4 from long range for a game-high 24 points.

Jennifer Prewitt led RMWC in both points and rebounds with 20 and 10.

BC travels to VWC this Saturday for a very important road game. Good luck to the Eagles!

My correction....Kinder had a team-high 19 points last night in the Eagles win over RMWC.

Another bit of good news for Kinder and for BC, Kinder has been named to the ESPN The Magazine District III College Division All-Academic First Team for women. College Division District III includes Division II, Division III and NAIA colleges and universities in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Virginia. Way to go!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 10, 2006, 04:51:13 pm
So.....a big weekend....what is everyone's picks???

February 11th
BC at VWC (4:00)
RMC at EMU (2:00)
LC at E&H (4:00)
RC at GC (4:00)
W&L at HU (2:00)

I think that EMU will play RMC close, but RMC is going to end up pulling away in the second half.

Lynchburg is still trying to hang on to the hope that they will find themselves in post-season play, however it will be a tough road getting there. LC is 5-12, 2 games behind E&H, W&L, and Guilford, who are all sitting at 7-10. I think, however, that the Wasps are going to be too much for the Hornets and that LC will leave this weekend with little hope of a post-season.

I think the big game is RC @ GC. RC is 9-9 in the ODAC right now, and GC climbed to 7-7 before losing three in a row to drop to 7-10. This is a big game for both teams, but I think GC is going to rebound from their slide and pull this one out.

Good luck to all the teams!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 10, 2006, 04:52:56 pm
Once again I need to make a correction :-\

I meant to bold in RMC over EMU...but who knows...maybe that was a sign for the Royals ??? ??? ???

But anyways, my pick is RMC over EMU
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 11, 2006, 12:59:52 am
I've made the trip home to Virginia Beach this weekend.  I plan on being at the BC/VWC game.

I'm interested in seeing the women's basketball following at Va Wesleyan.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 11, 2006, 08:18:02 am
February 11th
BC at VWC (4:00)
RMC at EMU (2:00)
LC at E&H (4:00)
RC at GC (4:00)
W&L at HU (2:00)

This is the weekend of the away teams!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on February 11, 2006, 08:22:34 am
Id like to see VA Wes. upset Bridgewater today - we'll see what happens. Besides BC/VWC I take all away games too.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 11, 2006, 01:44:23 pm
February 11th
BC at VWC (4:00)
RMC at EMU (2:00)
LC at E&H (4:00)
RC at GC (4:00)
W&L at HU (2:00)

This is the weekend of the away teams!

I take E&H at home. Vistors in other 4 games.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 11, 2006, 03:59:48 pm
RMC over EMU by a bunch. Waiting for boxscore.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on February 11, 2006, 04:33:21 pm
Box score is posted at http://www.emu.edu/athletics/news/?id=1030

EMU had 14 first half TO's campared to just 1 for RMC. 

Renalds and Mathews had a nice game for EMU.  While watching the battle between Renalds and Orton, they both scored 19 pts., but Renalds had 12 reb. compared to 7 for Orton.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 11, 2006, 04:48:30 pm
RMC over EMU by a bunch. Waiting for boxscore.

RMC 88 EMU 66

Silva with season high 32. Needs another 100 for all time ODAC scorer.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mom#15 on February 11, 2006, 04:49:56 pm
The score at half time at the VWC vs. Bridgewater game is: VWC 24..............Bridgewater 12. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 11, 2006, 04:52:57 pm
12 ?????
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 11, 2006, 04:57:56 pm
The score at half time at the VWC vs. Bridgewater game is: VWC 24..............Bridgewater 12. 

BC needs to pick it up in second half or goodbye polls and ODAC season.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 11, 2006, 04:59:53 pm
The score at half time at the VWC vs. Bridgewater game is: VWC 24..............Bridgewater 12. 

Wow ... they shot 3-for-23.  That won't win you many games.  Thank goodness they are "only" down 12 points.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 11, 2006, 05:19:16 pm
W&L 67   HU 52
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 11, 2006, 05:31:35 pm
Ugly loss for Bridgewater.   :-\
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 11, 2006, 05:35:15 pm
Ugly loss for Bridgewater.   :-\


RMC ODAC Champs.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mom#15 on February 11, 2006, 05:38:41 pm
VWC 42 Bridgewater 35.  Way to go Marlins!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 11, 2006, 05:38:48 pm
Ugly loss for Bridgewater.   :-\
RMC ODAC Champs.

If this Bridgewater team shows up in the tournament, absolutely.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: huskiect on February 11, 2006, 05:41:51 pm
VWC beats BC  ::)
        Bridgewater   12   23    35 
 Virginia Wesleyan   24   18    42 


Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 11, 2006, 05:44:47 pm
Ugly loss for Bridgewater.   :-\
RMC ODAC Champs.

If this Bridgewater team shows up in the tournament, absolutely.

I was talking about the regular season, although I expect RMC to run the table and Silva to set all time ODAC scoring record.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 11, 2006, 05:47:21 pm
The Bridgewater starters were a combined 7-for-49 (14%) from the floor.  Wow.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 11, 2006, 05:55:41 pm
BC must now win the ODAC tourney to get to the NCAA's. No more talk about the polls from me this week.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on February 11, 2006, 05:56:45 pm
BC vs. VWC

Looks like neither team could put the ball in the basket.  Great defense or terrible offense?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: huskiect on February 11, 2006, 06:21:16 pm
VWC played good defense and beat them on the boards.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 11, 2006, 06:56:25 pm
any scores on the other games?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on February 11, 2006, 11:03:20 pm
I guess VWC can beat a "good" basketball team?  The haters out there are mighty quiet all of a sudden.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 11, 2006, 11:16:58 pm
I guess VWC can beat a "good" basketball team?  The haters out there are mighty quiet all of a sudden.

The Eagle-fan in me wants to say that a team coming in shooting 47% and shot only 17% tonight means it was just "one of those nights," but after I looked back at when the Eagles won 78-64 over the Marlins, the Eagles did shoot "only " 39% ... so I have to give some credit to the Marlin defense.

This definitely makes the ODAC tournament more interesting once it gets down to the semis (which will most likely be R-MC/EMU and BC/VWC).  I'll definitely make the trip down to Salem if that's the case on Feb. 24.

But yeah, about tonight, the Marlins definitely deserve a congrats for what they seemingly did to the Eagles with their defense.  And what a job Phillips (#32) did on the boards with 20 on the night.

So mark me down as one of the "haters" giving VWC some love.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on February 12, 2006, 08:34:54 am
What is up with VWC always believing it is "them against the world?"

It doesn't matter, if it Mens or Womens, everyone "hates" VWC.



VWC fans,

Just remember, when you are good, people are going to try to knock you off and part of that is talking trash.  When EMU went to the sweet 16, everyone was 'hating' on them, but that comes with the territory.  Enjoy it.  It means you are doing something right.  Everyone loves a loser, because it is an easy win.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 10:27:49 am
GC 64 RC 58
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 10:30:51 am
I guess VWC can beat a "good" basketball team?  The haters out there are mighty quiet all of a sudden.

Not haters...but was a little irked when their players were posing as impartial fans and bashing at RMC and Silva.  :-[
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 10:34:19 am
W&L 67  HU 52
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 10:37:18 am
Hey Fairmont,

   How did we all do yesterday?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 12, 2006, 11:36:20 am
Hey Fairmont,

   How did we all do yesterday?

Here's how people did...if I missed you..let me know

Fairmont 3-2
Valley 3-2
heinbball 4-1
Gava 2-3

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbingit on February 12, 2006, 12:13:22 pm
 ???
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 12:38:24 pm
???

welcome aboard...unusual first post ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 12:48:36 pm
Hey Fairmont,

   How did we all do yesterday?

Here's how people did...if I missed you..let me know

Fairmont 3-2
Valley 3-2
heinbball 4-1
Gava 2-3




2-3...phew :-\   Knew I was gambling going against GC at home but BC and E&H ( especially in the waspnest ) really let me down. :(
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 12:52:11 pm
BC must now win the ODAC tourney to get to the NCAA's. No more talk about the polls from me this week.

Sorry about that. It would have been good for ODAC to keep two nationally ranked teams and had regular season co-champs.
Got to bet on RMC all the way now. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbingit on February 12, 2006, 02:15:47 pm
From the Richmond Times Dispatch a couple of days ago:
 http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137833996195

RMC is a great team. Too bad they do not know how to win with class.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 12, 2006, 02:29:49 pm
On the contrary, I think that article shows Randolph-Macon is very meticulously taking these things into account.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 03:31:23 pm
From the Richmond Times Dispatch a couple of days ago:
 http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137833996195

RMC is a great team. Too bad they do not know how to win with class.


The Yellow Jackets' star is averaging  33.7 minutes per contest.

LaHaye said she understands the irritation of foes who believe they have been needlessly sliced and diced by Silva's brilliance. But she stopped short of apologizing.

"Players of Megan's caliber don't come along very often," she said. "This is her last year in college, and it's our last year with her. I don't think we should be criticized for allowing a special player to do what she's capable of doing.

"I've given it some thought - a lot of thought, actually - "  Times Dispatch



Silva is 9th in the ODAC in playing time this season .  Other people are playing more than her. Why should anyone want to see her sit on the bench and not break the all time ODAC scoring record?  And why do these sour grapes always seem to come from VWC players and fans? ???
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 03:39:36 pm

RMC is a great team. Too bad they do not know how to win with class.


Just sour grapes from the marlins 3rd rate wannabes.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 05:01:56 pm
Oh GAVA, don't have a cow...just because RMC isn't the only team in the conference that can win a lot of games anymore doesn't mean that other teams and their fans don't have class and are "wannabe's".  Like Emufan said before, it's hard to be that team that doesn't have a consistently great team like some of the other ODAC legends...people started hating the little guys moving up the ladder.  Congrats, however, on trying to be the tough guy.  And every team has a bad seed in their fan base or two, not just the Marlins.  So just cool it with the mudslinging until the tourney and then have some class yourself and congratulate all the women basketball players and their coaches in the ODAC for giving their all this season.  (And that goes for all the other mudslingers too - the ODAC is made up of hard-working, intelligent women - to say others don't have class, even though we may not believe in their decision making, or we saw ONE player not help another up in ONE game for some odd reason, doesn't say it all for the whole organization...honestly.)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on February 12, 2006, 05:04:52 pm
On the contrary, I think that article shows Randolph-Macon is very meticulously taking these things into account.

Totally agree!  Given a player of Silva's talent, any team and coach would do the same or 'worse'.  It would not be fair to any player to limit their contribution, which is the reason they're on the floor, to compete.  What amazes me most about Silva is that she could have turned many of her record assists into points for herself.  That's unselfish and that's class.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 12, 2006, 05:14:29 pm
I imagine this post will be one that gets quite a bit of replies from Marlin fans, and I have gone back and forth about whether to post this or not, but I am going to. I am so disgusted at VWC and their players that I really don't care to see the Marlins play again. I have said before that I feel like VWC could really improve on their sportsmanship, and after watching every team in the ODAC play, I feel like the Marlins rank first in bad sportsmanship.

In Saturday's game against BC a VWC player (whom I will not mention) kicked a BC player very blatantly as she was on the ground. All of the fans who I was sitting with noticed it. One fan yelled that he figured VWC had been watching VA Tech too much. Some VWC fans around the area I was sitting came to the players defense saying that it seemed like an accident. I guess the player was having muscle spasms in her leg.

The VWC cheerleaders had a very sportsmanlike cheer during BC free throws. It went like this, "miss it...miss it....miss it..." Very original!

After the game some VWC students who were exiting the game were telling some BC fans that "here's the proof that BC is overrated."

I am just disappointed at the level of sportsmanship that VWC has shown this season. I have now seen them play four times, and I do not care to make that a fifth. There has not just been one incident for this team, there has been many!

VWC players and coaches....since I know some of you get on here....if you are reading this I would like you all to think about your actions....you all are a very good basketball team...a team which is on the rise...but you are not representing the ODAC very well at all!

Okay Marlin fans...please come to the defense of your beloved team whom you think everyone hates. I actually pulled for VWC at the beginning of the season...I really wanted to see three ODAC teams making a statement for their conference...but after seeing the Marlins....the only statement they'll make is one of poor sportsmanship!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 12, 2006, 05:25:37 pm
I tend to like to see EMU, W&L, and BC do well. I am from Augusta County, and so these three teams are all close to me.

However, I have enjoyed watching RMC make national headlines because it represents the ODAC very well. Everytime I watch Silva I am amazed at her talent. Other then the fact that she enjoys talking to the officials, I think she is a great sport. She goes out of her way to help players up, and after every BC game I have always seen Katy Herr and Megan Silva stand around, chat, and congratulate eachother on a good game. That is class!

I think RMC has had a great season! Really the only thing that RMC does that gets under my skin is their barking at half-court after they win. No team who has just been beaten wants to see that, nor do the fans. I feel like that is something to be done in your lockerroom.

However, I do respect RMC and Silva and am happy to see them representing the ODAC well! I would love to see BC and RMC both make the tournament and have two teams representing the ODAC! I am tired of people arguing about the class of RMC. I agree with the yellow jacket fans, you all are just jealous.

VWC....I really do believe you all have a great team with lots of talent....but quit making your jealous statements and give a very good ODAC team some love. You all are on the up and up...and hopefully you all will be representing the ODAC one day on a national level. Hopefully at that time there will be no RMC fans getting jealous, and hopefully the Marlins will have acquired some class by then.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 05:42:20 pm
VALLEYbballfan,

Please list, besides the very common "miss it" cheer and "overrated" comment that you hear at every basketball game across the country, any other unsportsmanlike issues of yours with VWC.  I know the players and the coaches well, and much like Silva who may get some flack, these are girls who take pride in their attitudes and their appearances not only to the other team and fans, but to the ODAC itself.  If Dunmyer ever thought they were acting at all unsportsman like, they would be yanked and benched indefinitely.  Man, I guess people really will say anything to bash teams rising to the top - especially "non valley" schools...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 05:43:51 pm
  So just cool it with the mudslinging and have some class yourself

I think I will just wait until ANYONE affiliated with VWC shows some class, thanks.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on February 12, 2006, 05:50:26 pm
The VWC cheerleaders had a very sportsmanlike cheer during BC free throws. It went like this, "miss it...miss it....miss it..." Very original!

The only thing I will comment on is this "woo is me" statement.  Are you kidding me?  The cheerleaders are bad sports?  HA HA HA!!!  That is a cheer you would hear at a 9 year old basketball game and there is no judgement of class based on that.

On another note:  If the kicking incident is true, you have all my support in bashing VWC.

I am a supporter and a loyalist no doubt, but many posters on here are emotionally attached to their key boards and don't know when to applaud and when to smite.  I remember being a poster to say that the jury is out on VWC as a quality team b/c they hadn't beaten great teams.  I still agree with that statement as I do not think BC is a top notch squad either, when you look outside the conference.  The only legit team, in my opinion, in the conference is RMC.  BC, EMU, VWC are good teams with a ways to go before they get some national love.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 05:58:24 pm
.....right up unitil Macon gets beat in the ODAC tournament., then know somewhere i will be sitting in the stands smiling patting my own back.

Another classy VWC post ! I expect when the tourney is over it won't be your back but another body part you will be patting. ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 06:06:48 pm
  If Dunmyer ever thought they were acting at all unsportsman like, they would be yanked and benched indefinitely. 

you mean like when a VWC player posts under the name " maconmesick" ?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: jmill on February 12, 2006, 06:13:44 pm
It's incredible how vicious some of you "adults" can be, if you are adults.  Valleybb, as I said before, you are entitled to your opinion, but your attempts to paint VWC as a classless team are based on seeing the team in what, two or three games?  I don't care if you are tied to Augusta County, you are still very, very biased in your views.  Now you've tried to spread your ridicule from the team, to the cheerleaders to a handful of students walking out of the game.  Didn't you forget to attack the Marlin mascot, the announcer and the people in the concession stand?  And oh, by the way, I saw a Bridgewater player knock a VWC player to the court and walk away from her.  Seems to me that falls in your definition of classless.  You have not seen all of the teams in this conference play enough to make the kind of statements you do.  If every other team in this league is innocent, that it is just incredible.  Did you miss the action in the corner when the Bridgewater player shoved a VWC player into the chairs?  Or was that just good aggressive basketball?  And you know what, I really doubt if anyone cares if you see another VWC game.  You obviously wouldn't enjoy it anyway.  

And GAVA, what is your purpose in this room?  Only to try to stir up posters?  Where IS your proof of all of these VWC posters bashing R-MC?  Give the head count and the ID that makes your sure they are VWC players.    There was ONE player, count that GAVA, one player that was "outed" by a poster and it was after her ONE and only comment, which was mild to say the least.  You make accusations, so here's one for you, YOU must be a R-MC player.  How stupid does that sound?  Exactly.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 06:22:03 pm
 

And GAVA,  Where IS your proof of all of these VWC posters bashing R-MC?  

I always copy the post I am replying to ?????? ???
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 12, 2006, 06:52:36 pm
Wow! This board sure has gotten viscious! Valley, I also saw that BC girl get kicked by a VWC fan! I was apalled and sincerely hope that if Coach Dunmyer reviews that game tape and sees that incident, that the particular player who was responsible will be benched for at least the remainder of the regular season, if not longer.

I think that no team is innocent from classless acts, and there is no team in the ODAC that stands out as having no class. You can not describe actions by cheerleaders or students to describe a basketball team's reputation. I have not been impressed by VWC this year, but then again there have been incidents by BC, RMC, and many other schools that I have not been impressed with. It is part of the sport, there are good apples and bad apples in every orchard (ODAC).

jmill.....I also do not think you stooping to the other posters level demonstrated how an adult would act. Be careful to call people out like that.

Now....on to basketball....will Silva break the ODAC scoring record before the end of the season? In the ODAC tournament? In the NCAA tournament? Or not at all?

I say second round of the ODAC tournament. She'll probably have two big games to end the season as the yellowjackets finish with RMWC and Hollins.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 12, 2006, 06:55:20 pm
Hahahaha!!! ;D
I said I saw the BC girl get kicked by a VWC fan....WOW! I guess that would have been a little too blatant if a fan kicked her....I meant to say I saw a VWC player kick that BC player...and it was blatant and there was no need for it.

I guess I need to take a typing class. :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 07:31:42 pm

"I think that no team is innocent from classless acts, and there is no team in the ODAC that stands out as having no class. You can not describe actions by cheerleaders or students to describe a basketball team's reputation. I have not been impressed by VWC this year, but then again there have been incidents by BC, RMC, and many other schools that I have not been impressed with. It is part of the sport, there are good apples and bad apples in every orchard (ODAC). "

As far as the "class" issue goes, I agree that there are certain individual circumstances on every team, at some time, where it may be a problem (maconmesick's ONE post that was removed and seems to have deemed VWC an unsportsmanlike team).  However, I don't think VWC would be getting so badly bashed if they were in the bottom of the league. 

I'll just end my opinion on this topic with saying that there are some great supporters out there of the Marlin program and most know first-hand how classy the school and the women's basketball program is.  If a VWC player kicked another player in a game, that is horrible, however I have a really hard time believing any of those players would have done it on purpose - although, no, I did not see it.  These women are fighting hard to win games and prove themselves in this league, but not at the expense of their character and class...I assure you.  So we can continue to bash or try to bring down, or we can agree to that this season has surprised us all and give credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 07:32:27 pm
Didn't mean to quote the whole text - sorry Fairmont!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbingit on February 12, 2006, 07:34:24 pm
I have no problem with Silva at all. I think she is a great player, in fact, the best to ever play in the ODAC. She deserves all the awards and records. She has earned everything. I have a problem when the coach from RMC leaves her in a 40 point blowout so she can get 8 more points. I think she should have coached that game the way she would have had she not known about the record. Winning games with class should be more important than players setting records b/c they are at home. And the coach said she prayed about it....well, in my opinion, if she had to pray about whether it was the right thing to do then obviously it was NOT the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 08:05:43 pm


Now....on to basketball....will Silva break the ODAC scoring record before the end of the season? In the ODAC tournament? In the NCAA tournament? Or not at all?


I say ODAC tourney final. ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on February 12, 2006, 08:10:07 pm
"The only legit team, in my opinion, in the conference is RMC.  BC, EMU, VWC are good teams with a ways to go before they get some national love."

RMC LOST to Bridgewater, almost LOST to E & H and was given fits by a few other teams.  What makes them so much more "Legit"?  

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 08:11:26 pm

  So we can continue to bash or  give credit where credit is due.

Agree. Lets give credit to Silva as perhaps the best ODAC player ever. Classy post from a VWC fan.  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on February 12, 2006, 08:14:52 pm


Now....on to basketball....will Silva break the ODAC scoring record before the end of the season? In the ODAC tournament? In the NCAA tournament? Or not at all?


I say ODAC tourney final. ;)

First game of NCAA, at Crenshaw and we're ahead by 40 points with 7 minutes to go and she needs 8 points to break the record. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 08:16:11 pm
"The only legit team, in my opinion, in the conference is RMC.  BC, EMU, VWC are good teams with a ways to go before they get some national love."

RMC LOST to Bridgewater, almost LOST to E & H and was given fits by a few other teams.  What makes them so much more "Legit"?  
 

Who are you quoting? posting to? Don't know what one means by legit. Perhaps whoever posted meant they felt that RMC was only ODAC school playing well enough to be on national radar.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 08:18:08 pm
Quote

First game of NCAA, hopefully at Crenshaw and we're ahead by 40 points with 7 minutes to go and she needs 8 points to break the record. 
Quote


LMAO :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 08:27:59 pm

  So we can continue to bash or  give credit where credit is due.

Agree. Lets give credit to Silva as perhaps the best ODAC player ever. Classy post from a VWC fan.  ;)


Hey, I agree.  Silva is definitely one of the ODAC's best, and she plays her heart out and is a great sport.  I have a lot of respect for her - not only as a former ODAC player but as a J.R. Tucker player (in the same high school district as Hermitage) and having gone to R-MC for my freshman year.  She is a class act and deserves her props.  She can't help what position she is put in by her coaches as far as playing time.  She is going to score and be great when she is in.  I also think there are a lot of other great players this year who are somewhat overlooked because they have to stand up next to her.  But it's not Silva's fault.  It's just important to recognize what everyone else is doing in the conference as well.  Anyway, it will just be a totally different league next year without her, Jennifer King, etc.  And finally some seniors for VWC next year!  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on February 12, 2006, 08:35:36 pm
Old School, what year were you at Macon?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 08:36:34 pm
Freshman year - played volleyball and softball - then transferred to VWC  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 08:37:23 pm
oops i mean 1997-98  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 12, 2006, 08:45:48 pm

  So we can continue to bash or  give credit where credit is due.

Agree. Lets give credit to Silva as perhaps the best ODAC player ever. Classy post from a VWC fan.  ;)


Hey, I agree.  Silva is definitely one of the ODAC's best, and she plays her heart out and is a great sport.  I have a lot of respect for her - not only as a former ODAC player but as a J.R. Tucker player (in the same high school district as Hermitage) and having gone to R-MC for my freshman year.  She is a class act and deserves her props.  She can't help what position she is put in by her coaches as far as playing time.  She is going to score and be great when she is in.  I also think there are a lot of other great players this year who are somewhat overlooked because they have to stand up next to her.  But it's not Silva's fault.  It's just important to recognize what everyone else is doing in the conference as well.  Anyway, it will just be a totally different league next year without her, Jennifer King, etc.  And finally some seniors for VWC next year!  ;)

Yes it will certainly be a different league next year, and VWC may well be a contender. As I didn't see VWC play this year I can't add or subtract to observations made by others regarding their on court sportsmanship. I do know that some of their fans have been very hostile to RMC and Silva on this board. Perhaps we can chalk that up to growing pains, and  to letting expectations getting a year ahead of possibility.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on February 12, 2006, 08:46:32 pm
GAVA:  I was REPLYING to Justafan2, - I just didn't do it right. :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on February 12, 2006, 08:47:13 pm
oops i mean 1997-98  :)

Thanks, my son played football and wrestling at Tucker.  Didn't know we had softball then, I thought it was a new sport at RMC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 09:07:53 pm
Yep, it was a club sport that year - we started the trend  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 09:08:30 pm
oops i mean 1997-98  :)

Thanks, my son played football and wrestling at Tucker.  Didn't know we had softball then, I thought it was a new sport at RMC.

Who was your son and what year did he graduate from JRT?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on February 12, 2006, 09:12:42 pm
oops i mean 1997-98  :)

Thanks, my son played football and wrestling at Tucker.  Didn't know we had softball then, I thought it was a new sport at RMC.

Who was your son and what year did he graduate from JRT?

He graduated in 2003, do you know any Tucker students from that era?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 12, 2006, 09:31:56 pm
I caught a few girls' basketball games that year because I'm still good friends with the coach there...probably would know his name if he played football!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 13, 2006, 08:23:26 am
Well...there is only one week of the regular season left...any guesses to the ODAC first team???

I had no problem choosing my first three....these first three girls are without a doubt first teamers to me....the last two I had some trouble deciding on?

Katy Herr
Megan Silva
Jennifer King

Jessica Hunsinger
Meghan Stensrud
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 13, 2006, 10:09:28 am
Stephanie Mathews should definitely make 1st team.  She just impressed me a whole lot when EMU came to town.  She has a quick release on her shot and never seems to stop moving on both sides of the court.  Only knock against her is her shooting percentage from the field (32%).  Even so, if not for Silva being so good and celebrated, Mathews would be on the short list for POTY.

I wasn't that impressed by King.  Admittedly, she probably had one of her worst games when she visited Nininger Hall (only two points through the first 25-or-so minutes of the game), but I was left thinking after the game that she was just the best player on a mediocre team.

Here is why I'm not sold on King being one of the best players in the league;


So you ask, "if King doesn't make your All-ODAC first team, who does?"

Well, as I stated on Jan. 22;

I'm looking forward to seeing Jennifer King (GC) this coming weekend.  After seeing six of the ODAC teams, this is my current All-ODAC 1st team;

Orton (R-MC)
Mathews (EMU)
Kinder (BC)
Silva (R-MC)
Herr (BC)

I sure hope King doesn't impress me, because I would have no clue who I would take off the above list.

Well, clearly, King didn't impress ... so I'm sticking with Mathews, Kinder, Silva and Herr.

Feel free to think I'm a homer by picking Kinder, but it would be hard to deny that after Silva, she's the best shooter in the league (47% FG, 47% 3PT, 83% FT).  Her stats aren't amazing, but considering she plays for a Bridgewater team and a coach in Willi that makes it a point to share the ball, her 18.1 pts, 3.3 rebs, 2.0 assts and 1.6 stls per game seem a tad more impressive.

The fifth spot is up for grabs by four ladies.  Like I said Jan. 23, there are four post players who are equally deserving;

I think there are four post players that are about even (but with strengths in different areas)...

Orton (R-MC)
Hunsinger (W&L)
Renalds (EMU)
Phillips (VWC)

IMO, Hunsinger is the better defender, while Phillips is the better rebounder.  Orton and Renalds do a great job of complimenting Silva and Mathews.

I think it'll come down between Orton and Renalds, seeing that Orton was All-ODAC 2nd team a year ago while Renalds was All-ODAC 1st team, and both players are having betters years this season than they did last.  But personally, I liked Hunsinger the most.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 13, 2006, 11:57:51 am
So here would be my voting for All-ODAC honors:

1st Team
Megan Silva, R-MC
Katy Herr, BC
Jessica Hunsinger, W&L
Stephanie Mathews, EMU
Marsha Kinder, BC

2nd Team
Jennifer King, GC
Amanda Renalds, EMU
Michelle Orton, R-MC
Heather Phillips, VWC
Salem Shaffer, R-MC

Honorable Mention
Caroline Wesley, LC
Erin Hanson, RC

The three girls from R-MWC all have had decent years (Stensrud, Prewitt and Rechnitzer), but there is no way statistically to differentiate them.  I'm probably safe in assuming two of the three will earn HM.  And finally, it's hard for me to "respect" someone's stats when it's a product of "the system."  Even though they just jack up threes, I can see the ODAC honoring at least one Wasp, so I'll go with Lauren Habel (at least she shoots a decent percent from there; 33%).

Player of the Year: Megan Silva, Randolph-Macon
Coach of the Year: Stephany Dunmyer, Virginia Wesleyan
Freshman of the Year: Kristine Ellis, Guilford
Scholar-Athlete of the Year: Marsha Kinder, Bridgewater
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 13, 2006, 02:04:26 pm
Undoubtedly, King had an "off" game when she played at BC, but based on the whole season, I firmly believe she will be a First Team ODAC selection on almost everyone's ballot.  I've seen her play quite a few times the past four years and she is one of those players than can - and does - put the team on her back.  Unfortunately, this year's Guilford team has required her to do that fairly often.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: upper90 on February 13, 2006, 02:31:24 pm
What is everyone's thoughts on freshman of the year???
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 13, 2006, 03:01:19 pm
What is everyone's thoughts on freshman of the year???

So here would be my voting for All-ODAC honors:

Freshman of the Year: Kristine Ellis, Guilford
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 13, 2006, 03:16:07 pm
Here are my votes for ODAC First Team:

Katy Herr
Megan Silva
Jennifer King
Amanda Reynolds
Jessica Hunsinger
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 13, 2006, 03:21:17 pm
Undoubtedly, King had an "off" game when she played at BC, but based on the whole season, I firmly believe she will be a First Team ODAC selection on almost everyone's ballot.  I've seen her play quite a few times the past four years and she is one of those players than can - and does - put the team on her back.  Unfortunately, this year's Guilford team has required her to do that fairly often.

Anyone that scores 500 points in a season is doing something right, sure.  But 4.7 turnovers a game?  Eww.  Shoots 18 shots a game?  That's a lot.  1-7 against the top four teams in the conference this year?  Not very good.

No question she's All-ODAC worthy, but it was just my opinion from what I've seen this season that there are other players more worthy.  If you put her on your 1st team, using my All-ODAC ballot, who do you take off?  Kinder?  Hunsinger?  Mathews?

Kinder - Scores only four less points a game than King, but also plays six less minutes a game and shoots six less shots a game.  She takes care of the ball better than King does (63 TOs to King's 108) and shoots better from the field, behind the arc and charity stripe.

Hunsinger - IMO, the best post-defender in the ODAC.  Had six blocks against Bridgewater when they played in Nininger, holding our front court to 4-of-15 shooting - not to mention she outrebounded the two, seven to six.

Mathews - Averages less than nine shots a game (the explaination for her 8.9 point a game), but the 5-foot-9 forward is one of the few players in the conference that can play all five positions.  First on her team in rebounds and steals, and second in points and assists.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: upper90 on February 13, 2006, 04:06:49 pm
Quote
Freshman of the Year: Kristine Ellis, Guilford

I saw that post i was trying to get others to comment...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 13, 2006, 04:28:06 pm
Quote
Freshman of the Year: Kristine Ellis, Guilford

I saw that post i was trying to get others to comment...

Sorry.  I tend to just skim over long posts, I thought maybe you did that to mine.

The only other freshman I remember is one of the VWC guards.  Nice talent, but Ellis had her on the stats.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 15, 2006, 09:38:12 pm
Quote from: Old School Marlin   Silva is definitely one of the ODAC's best[quote

"one of the best"...That sounds like halfhearted props Marlin.
I think if Silva sets ODAC records for Assists AND Scoring then it could be objectively stated she has been the best to have ever played in ODAC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 15, 2006, 11:08:26 pm
Come on now! I want to know about some of the action around the league tonight. I heard there were some good games...some important games.

BC beat Hollins tonight, 63-37,  to finish up 11-0 at home for the year.

Amy Childs was the only player to play over 20 minutes, and she only played 22 minutes. Bridgewater shared the ball really well as 12 girls got in the scoring colum for the Eagles.

Shannon Scales led BC with 15 points while Becca Henderson had 10 points and 8 rebounds. Bridgewater's big guns, Herr and Kinder, got a little rest tonight as Herr came up with 4 points on 2-of-4 shooting, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, and 2 steals in just 17 minutes. Kinder had 7 points on 3-of-8 shooting, 4 assists, and 2 steals.

Coby Wilmer paced Hollins with 16 points and 9 rebounds.

Bridgewater finishes up its season at EMU on Saturday with a chance to lock up their third straight 20-win season as the Eagles currently sit at 19-5.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 15, 2006, 11:23:58 pm
fairmont1113,

It's interesting you brought up that the Eagles finished 11-0 at home this season.  I looked back at the results from last year, and they finished the season winning their last seven games in Nininger Hall, giving them a current home winning streak of 18.

Their last loss in Bridgewater was on January 15, 2005, against Emory & Henry (49-48).
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 16, 2006, 07:52:07 am
BC will need to win the ODAC to get a bid to the NCAA's. If they had beaten the Marlins on the road then an at large bid would not have been out of the question.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 16, 2006, 08:23:09 am
The Quakers came from 10 behind at home last night to beat W&L 63-56.  A 26-7 Guilford run starting around the 14-minute mark gave them a 9-point lead with about 5 minutes to go and, after the Generals cut it to 57-56, King hit 6 straight FT's.  Speaking of King, she had 26 points and 11 rebounds while Kristine Ellis added 10 points and 17 rebounds, so both had double-doubles.  I think this adds some credence to Ellis possibly winning FOY.  W&L was led by Krouchick, Feve and Hunsinger with 17, 16 and 15, respectively.  Krouchick also had a double-double with 10 rebounds while Hunsinger came close with 9.  I looked at stats this morning and King has 546 points to 511 for Silva, but King has played two more games, so Silva leads in ppg 23.2 to 22.8.  RMC finishes the regular season at Hollins and RMWC while GC entertains LC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 16, 2006, 08:26:13 am
Quote
Freshman of the Year: Kristine Ellis, Guilford

I saw that post i was trying to get others to comment...
Ellis had 10 points and 17 rebounds in a win over W&L last night, so those numbers might help her bid for FOY.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 16, 2006, 10:14:48 pm
[quote author=hasanova   I looked at stats this morning and King has 546 points to 511 for Silva, but King has played two more games, so Silva leads in ppg 23.2 to 22.8.  RMC finishes the regular season at Hollins and RMWC while GC entertains LC.
Quote

Yes, GC plays one more regular season game than RMC.
I expect RMC to cut Silva loose from here on out. She needs more than 100 points to set the ODAC scoring record. So she will need 4 or 5 games at 25 or 30 points each. Expect to see her playing alot, even against Hollins.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 16, 2006, 10:21:05 pm
BC will need to win the ODAC to get a bid to the NCAA's. If they had beaten the Marlins on the road then an at large bid would not have been out of the question.

Could happen. If they beat RMC in the finals the ODAC gets 2 teams in.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 16, 2006, 11:42:41 pm
[quote author=hasanova   I looked at stats this morning and King has 546 points to 511 for Silva, but King has played two more games, so Silva leads in ppg 23.2 to 22.8.  RMC finishes the regular season at Hollins and RMWC while GC entertains LC.
Quote

Yes, GC plays one more regular season game than RMC.
I expect RMC to cut Silva loose from here on out. She needs more than 100 points to set the ODAC scoring record. So she will need 4 or 5 games at 25 or 30 points each. Expect to see her playing alot, even against Hollins.
Yeah, I know.  Not trying to be too hard on HU & RMWC, but realistically they probably won't keep Silva from getting big numbers. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 17, 2006, 01:59:33 am
Awesome win against the Royals, VWC!!


GAVA - Half-hearted props to Silva?  Give me a break -s top taking the "everybody hates R-MC route...it's not a good look for you.  I said she's great and I mean it.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 17, 2006, 08:40:16 am
"I expect RMC to cut Silva loose from here on out."

Against Hollins and RMWC????

For a record????

I am sorry, but I do not agree with that, if that ends up being the case.

VWC, EMU, and BC all kept their starters to under 22 minutes against Hollins. The only exception to that is when BC played at Hollins and Herr played 26 minutes and EMU played at Hollins and Matthews played 27 minutes. With those two exceptions every other starter played under 22 minutes in both of those respective teams' games against Hollins.

The second time around against Hollins, Herr played 17 minutes and Matthews played 13. I am sure the first time when they played all of 26 and 27 minutes against Hollins, they were not trying to set records.

I was fine the first time RMC cut Silva loose on Hollins so she could reach 2,000 points at home. However, cutting Silva loose in two potential blow-outs? That does make me question the class of RMC? I think Silva will get the record, regardless if she doesn't see 36 minutes a game in these last two games. Silva and RMC have plenty of games left in this season. Even if they lose in the ODAC tournament, they will be going on as they are currently ranked #1 in the last south region rankings.

If Silva sets the record, great for herand for the ODAC! But set the record in a classy way, not getting cheap points against teams that are a combined 6-38.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 17, 2006, 08:42:14 am
Now....on to the last weekend of the regular season.

What are everyone's picks?

February 18th
BC at EMU (2:00)
LC at GC (2:00)
VWC at HU (4:00)
RMC at RMWC (2:00)
W&L at E&H (4:00)

There are some big games this weekend with ODAC tournament implications. Should be a good weekend!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on February 17, 2006, 09:31:21 am
These are my picks:

BC
GC
VWC
RMC
E&H

So who is going to the tourney next week?? :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Bilk on February 17, 2006, 10:33:20 am
Is there a forum that discusses ODAC sports not found on D3sports.com?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 17, 2006, 01:15:52 pm
Coach Dunmyer of VWC did a respectable thing several days back....she called Coach Willi at Bridgewater and gave Willi her sincere apologies about the kicking incident that took place Saturday, February 11th at VWC.

To refresh some of your memories, a BC player hit the floor along with two other VWC players. One of the VWC players got up, and before walking away very blatantly kicked the BC girl. The officials did not see but many of the fans did. Some of you on this board voiced your doubt about whether or not the kicking incident was on purpose. Well, it was, and it was a starter on the Marlins squad. Coach Dunmyer also asked for the contact information of the BC player so her player who was responsible for the classless act could apologize.

I commend Coach Dunmyer for her actions. I am not sure what discilpinary actions are being taken against the VWC player, but I am sure that Dunmyer is punishing her as appropiate.

VWC is a program on the rise, and I am sure that Coach Dunmyer is letting this player know that she was not representative of VWC, her coach and teammates, or the ODAC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 17, 2006, 01:17:32 pm
Here are my picks....

BC
LU
VWC
RMC
W&L
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on February 17, 2006, 03:52:13 pm
Who will finish at spots 4-8?

5)  Guilford -  has learned from their mistakes and is making the most of what they     
                      have.

6)  Roanoke - still respectable, considering their injuries.

7)  E & H -  I still don't understand the plan.  (side note:  I didn't realize the coach got
                  the plan from the men's coach.  He's doing the exact same style.)

8)  W & L - 8th, IF they are lucky.  Such a shame for a team that started off the
                  early season with such promise.   

Any thoughts?     
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 17, 2006, 05:42:22 pm
These are my picks:

BC
GC
VWC
RMC
E&H



Me too. I think we are all taking the same picks. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 18, 2006, 06:52:08 pm
BC defeats EMU 74-60. With the win BC ends its regular season at 20-5 18-2. This is the Eagles third straight 20-win season. GO EAGLES!

Marsha Kinder led BC with 20 points while Amy Childs had 16 points. Katy Herr, who only played about 8 minutes in the second half because she picked up her fourth foul, finished with 5 points, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, and 5 steals. Rebecca Henderson had a big game down low for BC as she grabbed a game-high 13 rebounds to go along with 6 points and 2 blocks.

Does anyone know about the W&L @ E&H game? Tip-off was at 4 but nothing has been posted yet. With Lynchburg coming back to defeat Guilford 58-55, a W&L victory would give the Hornets a spot in the tournament next week.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on February 18, 2006, 07:15:10 pm
E&H won 94-66
That leaves E&H, Roanoke and Guilford all at 9-11.  What determines tiebreaker for seedings?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 18, 2006, 10:22:44 pm
Looks like Silva scored 19 pts in 27 minutes today but RMWC's boxscore is pretty wacked. They have a couple of their players playing over 50 minutes each.  ???
Better offer a Math major. ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 18, 2006, 10:23:39 pm
These are my picks:

BC
GC
VWC
RMC
E&H



Me too. I think we are all taking the same picks. :)


Fairmont, how did we do today?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 18, 2006, 11:03:39 pm
Fairmont, how did we do today?


Ok, here are the results of the day, both the scores of the games and how everyone did that made picks....

BC 74   EMU 60
http://www.emu.edu/athletics/basketball-w/2005_2006/emu0218.htm

LC 58   GU 55
http://www.lynchburg.edu/athletics/sports/basketball_w/2005-06%20stats/GCW-25.HTM

VWC 72   HU 59
http://www.hollins.edu/athletics/bball/hu24-vwc.htm

RMC 88   RMWC 41
http://www.rmc.edu/athletics/basketball/womens/2005-06schedule.asp

E&H 94   W&L 66
http://www.ehc.edu/scores/2006/02/2006021818065433/ehcwlu2w.htm

emoryfan 4-1
Fairmont 4-1
Valley 4-1
GAVA 4-1

Looks like we all did pretty good today. Three-way tie in the ODAC! Can't get any better then that!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 19, 2006, 10:56:43 am
Todays 2 games don't matter. What are tourneys pairings?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 19, 2006, 11:11:33 am
Sorry for misspelling of Guilford
Thanks.  For some reason, some folks put that extra "d" as in "Guild"  I see you haven't posted so often - did you know you can hit the "modify" icon in the upper RH corner and go back and correct your posts?  Thanks again, Guilford, Class of '74
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 19, 2006, 01:16:16 pm
E&H won 94-66    That leaves E&H, Roanoke and Guildford all at 9-11.  What determines tiebreaker for seedings?
Head-to-head first, I think, then a point system with more points awarded for defeating higher ranked teams.  GC was 2-0 vs E&H and 1-1 vs RC.  RC was 1-1 vs both teams and E&H was 0-2 vs GC and 1-1 vs RC.   
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: waterlucy on February 19, 2006, 01:18:41 pm
A comment was made that W & L "deserved" a 6th seed.  My response is the results speak for themselves.  W & L has one of the highest turnover rates in the league.  E & H beat them by 30 points - I'm not sure what "defense" was being used.  Congratulations to E & H for taking care of business.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on February 19, 2006, 04:01:12 pm
hasanova - didn't know about the modify option...do now
Thanks.

You're right, I don't post much, but read VERY often.  Love to 'listen' to all the comments and updates and love d3hoops. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 19, 2006, 05:00:50 pm
hasanova - didn't know about the modify option...do now    Thanks.

You're right, I don't post much, but read VERY often.  Love to 'listen' to all the comments and updates and love d3hoops.
You're welcome.  Hope your favorite team does well.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 19, 2006, 05:44:58 pm
Marlins lose on the road today to RMWC 82-70.  Not that it changes the standings, but that stinks.  A gut check before the tourney, which is probably a good thing.  Let's go ladies!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: waterlucy on February 20, 2006, 11:30:05 am
E & H vs. Bridgewater at 6:30.  Does anyone else have the other times?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: waterlucy on February 20, 2006, 12:01:20 pm
Ooops, meant 6:00.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 20, 2006, 02:27:25 pm
Tournament Pairings

Thursday, February 23

Game 1 - #1 Randolph-Macon vs. #8 Washington and Lee – 12:30pm

Game 2 - #4 Eastern Mennonite vs. #5 Guilford – 2:30pm

Game 3 - #2 Bridgewater vs. #7 Emory & Henry – 6pm

Game 4 - #3 Va Wesleyan vs. #6 Roanoke – 8pm



Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 20, 2006, 03:54:15 pm
Here's a breakdown of the ODAC's statistical leaders at seasons end.....

SCORING                               G     total   avg.
1.SILVA, Megan-RMC.........    24   544    22.7
2.KING, Jennifer-GC...........    25   564    22.6

REBOUNDING                             G     total   avg.
1.PREWITT, Jennifer-RMWC...    23    260   11.3
2.HUNSINGER, Jessica-W&L...    25   252    10.1

ASSISTS                                 G      total   avg.
1.SILVA, Megan-RMC.........    24     147    6.12
2.HERR, Katy-BC................    25     124    4.96

ASSIST/TURNOVER RATIO
1.SHAFFER, Salem-RMC.....    2.83
2.HERR, Katy-BC............       1.97

STEALS                                   G     total   avg.
1.HERR, Katy-BC............        25     90     3.60
 2.SILVA, Megan-RMC.........    24     81    3.38

BLOCKS                                       G      total   avg.
1.HUNSINGER, Jessica-W&L...     25     71      2.84
2.HENDERSON, Rebecca-BC....    25     37      1.48


I think Silva, Herr, and Hunsinger all deserve to be on first team. Not only do they lead the ODAC, they lead their teams.

Herr leads her team in steals, assists, and rebounds, and is second in scoring.

Silva leads her team in scoring, assists, and steals.

Hunsinger leads her team in scoring, rebounds, and blocks.



Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 20, 2006, 03:57:07 pm
As far as I know, Bridgewater's 18-game home winning streak is the seventh longest in women's Division III.

Most Consecutive Home Wins (updated through Feb. 19)

SchoolStreakLast Home LossRemaining 2005-06 Home Games
Bowdoin
69
Colby, 65-58, 2/10/01---
Scranton
66
DeSales, 73-71, 2/15/03King's, 2/22
Southern Maine
44
Bowdoin, 59-52, 12/2/03Mass-Dartmouth, 2/21
Messiah
26
Wittenberg, 51-48, 3/6/04Susquehanna, 2/22
Cortland State
23
Geneseo State, 2/20/04New Paltz State, 2/21
Bates
22
Bowdoin, 2/7/04Williams, 2/25
Bridgewater (Va.)
18
Emory & Henry, 49-48, 1/15/05---

Note: The Division III women's basketball record for consecutive home wins is 88 set by Rust from 1982 to 1989.  It's also the longest streak for all divisions.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 20, 2006, 06:21:57 pm
[quote author=fairmont1113


I think Silva, Herr, and Hunsinger all deserve to be on first team. Not only do they lead the ODAC, they lead their teams.

Herr leads her team in steals, assists, and rebounds, and is second in scoring.

Silva leads her team in scoring, assists, and steals.

Hunsinger leads her team in scoring, rebounds, and blocks.




Quote

Silva also holds ODAC records for career assists and steals.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on February 21, 2006, 08:44:08 pm
I got bored and did some math just now and I realized something that I don't think anyone else has noticed, but after this season, Lori Fletcher has a career total of 840 points, which would put her 9th all time in LC history. Lacey Currle finishes her career 11th all time in scoring at LC with 794 career points.

Correction, make that 10th and 12th because Caroline Wesley has 913 career points after her junior season, which is good enough for 6th all-time at LC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 21, 2006, 08:47:23 pm
Okay.....its tournament time!

What is everyone's guesses on.....

ODAC player of the year?
Freshmen of the year?
Coach of the year?
First team?
Second team?

and what is everyone's picks on tournament?


February 23rd
ODAC Quarterfinals
No. 1 RMC vs. No. 8 W&L (12:30)
No. 4. EMU vs. No. 5 GC (2:30)
No. 2 BC vs. No, 7 E&H (6:00)
No. 3. VWC vs. No 6. RC (8:00)

February 24th
ODAC Semifinals (1 & 3pm)

February 25th
ODAC Finals (2:00)

I am not going to post my predictions yet because I have to think about them...but I just wanted to go ahead and see what everyone else thought so everybody would have time to think about it also.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 21, 2006, 09:49:35 pm
Quarters: RMC, EMC, BC, VWC

Semis:RMC. BC

Finals: RMC

POY: Silva
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 21, 2006, 10:29:01 pm
Since I haven't made it to a lot games this season, and haven't seen all of the teams play, I don't want to put any predictions out there in terms of who is going to win awards tomorrow night at the banquet (other than Silva as the obvious POY).
Just wanted to wish the Yellow Jackets GOOD LUCK in the tourney - from what I have seen this season, they'll definitely make it all the way and get the W on Saturday. ;D
Hope ALL the teams have a safe, injury-free tournament!!!  :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 22, 2006, 08:28:59 am
POY- Megan Silva
Coach of the year- Coach Dunmyer (VWC)
FOY- Kristine Ellis

First Team
Katy Herr(BC)
Megan Silva(RMC)
Jennifer King(GC)
Jessica Hunsinger(W&L)
Meghan Stensrud(RMWC)

Second Team
???????Here are some guesses????????
Marsha Kinder(BC)
Erin Hanson(RC)
Jennifer Prewitt(RMWC)
Michelle Orton (RMC)
Amanda Reynolds(EMU)
Lauren Habel(E&H)
Coby Wilmer(HU)

ODAC Quarterfinals
No. 1 RMC vs. No. 8 W&L (12:30)
No. 4. EMU vs. No. 5 GC (2:30)
No. 2 BC vs. No, 7 E&H (6:00)
No. 3. VWC vs. No 6. RC (8:00)

No. 1 RMC vs. No. 5 GC
No. 2 BC vs. No 6 RC

No. 1 RMC vs. No. 2 BC

I'M NOT PICKING RMC!!??!! ???that's right..I'm going with the rematch from last year with a surprise ending!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on February 22, 2006, 09:21:32 am
no caroline wesley??

using conference stats only:
12th in odac in scoring
4th in rebounding
5th in FG%
7th in FT%
12th in blocks
6th in offensive rebounds
5th in defensive rebounds
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 22, 2006, 09:53:42 am
no caroline wesley??

using conference stats only:
12th in odac in scoring
4th in rebounding
5th in FG%
7th in FT%
12th in blocks
6th in offensive rebounds
5th in defensive rebounds


I said guesses only??? Caroline Wesley has had a great year, so I am sure she will be considered for at least honorable mention, if not second team.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 22, 2006, 10:07:02 am
I think fairmont1113's failure is in not mentioning Mathews (EMU) and Phillips (VWC).

Yikes, how can you not give props to the third- and fourth-seeded team's best players?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 22, 2006, 01:45:08 pm
I think fairmont1113's failure is in not mentioning Mathews (EMU) and Phillips (VWC).

Yikes, how can you not give props to the third- and fourth-seeded team's best players?


It is actually very easy to not give props to the third and fourth seeded team's best player. You see, I was making guesses for first and second teams, an honor awarded for individual performance, not an award based on how well the team that you played for did, although I do believe that does factor in.

So, why do I say it is easy to not give props to Matthews (EMU) or Phillips (VWC), even if they play for good teams? Because their personal performances are not as outstanding as some of the other players in this league, or at least that is what I believe.

Last year Bridgewater, who finished second in the ODAC by several games over Roanoke, had not one single player placed on first or second team. Let me break down the stats of their two best girls from last year and compare them to Matthews and Phillips stats from this year.....

Player          Scoring Avg.        Reb. Avg.        AST        STL        BLK
2004-05
Herr, Katy               9.4                    5.7              95          70            6
Scales, Shannon    11.6                   5.3              48          59           28

2005-06
Matthews, Steph.   9.2                    7.1              41          64             8
Phillips, Heather     12.5                  7.1              32          25             16


Now, those stats have Bridgewater playing in two more games then VWC or EMU have played in thus far. However, I think you see my point. VWC is a very even team from top to bottom. They have a lot of girls who contribute, unlike some teams from the ODAC. So, that will result in a good team (3rd place regular season), but few individual honors. Now, Phillips might find a spot on second team, who knows? However, I think Matthews and Phillips best bets are to be named to the honorable mention team. This is just my opinion, but keep in mind that I believe Matthews and Phillips are outstanding players, I am not saying anything against their talent.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 22, 2006, 03:15:48 pm
I like fairmont1113's 1st team combination of players... even though I haven't seen all of them play THIS year, my basis for comment is how well they have played in years past as well as their statistics this season. But... I'd at least add Salem Shaffer of R-MC as one more player to the possibility of at least Honorable Mention if not 2nd Team. She is right up there with everyone else in many statistical categories, and is a great player all around and a great contributor to the team.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 22, 2006, 03:18:38 pm
And as for the BC upset of R-MC in the finals... I hope you don't have money riding on that game!!! R-MC will take the tourney - not saying it's going to be easy, but I know those girls will not let an upset happen.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on February 22, 2006, 04:20:53 pm
Somtimes you have to just throw numbers out the door and use common sense.

Stephanie Mathews deserves to be on one of the three teams.  Are you really going to leave a 1000 pt scorer and a great rebounder off the team.  I don't know her final reb., but it is extremely impressive for her position and height.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 22, 2006, 05:52:57 pm
Well...there is only one week of the regular season left...any guesses to the ODAC first team???

I had no problem choosing my first three....these first three girls are without a doubt first teamers to me....the last two I had some trouble deciding on?

Katy Herr
Megan Silva
Jennifer King

Jessica Hunsinger
Meghan Stensrud


I wrote that over a week and a half ago...and I am sticking with that team..the same as your latest pick, fairmont. Your last pick had Amanda Reynolds on 1st team instead of Stensrud, any reason you changed your mind?

I think Herr, King, and Silva have pretty much appeared on everyone's prediction for first team. It will be interesting to see how everything works out. Tonight is the banquet, so we will soon find out.

Now...for my tournament predictions..........

February 23rd
ODAC Quarterfinals
No. 1 RMC vs. No. 8 W&L (12:30)
No. 4. EMU vs. No. 5 GC (2:30)
No. 2 BC vs. No, 7 E&H (6:00)
No. 3. VWC vs. No 6. RC (8:00)

No.1 RMC vs. No. 4 EMU
No.2 BC vs. No.3 VWC

No.2 BC vs. No.4 EMU


Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on February 22, 2006, 06:29:47 pm
Well...there is only one week of the regular season left...any guesses to the ODAC first team???

I had no problem choosing my first three....these first three girls are without a doubt first teamers to me....the last two I had some trouble deciding on?

Katy Herr
Megan Silva
Jennifer King

Jessica Hunsinger
Meghan Stensrud


I wrote that over a week and a half ago...and I am sticking with that team..the same as your latest pick, fairmont. Your last pick had Amanda Reynolds on 1st team instead of Stensrud, any reason you changed your mind?

I think Herr, King, and Silva have pretty much appeared on everyone's prediction for first team. It will be interesting to see how everything works out. Tonight is the banquet, so we will soon find out.

Now...for my tournament predictions..........

February 23rd
ODAC Quarterfinals
No. 1 RMC vs. No. 8 W&L (12:30)
No. 4. EMU vs. No. 5 GC (2:30)
No. 2 BC vs. No, 7 E&H (6:00)
No. 3. VWC vs. No 6. RC (8:00)

No.1 RMC vs. No. 4 EMU
No.2 BC vs. No.3 VWC

No.2 BC vs. No.4 EMU




a bit biased in those pick 'ems are you?  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 22, 2006, 06:58:08 pm
fairmont1113,

The only statistic that Mathews isn't impressive at is scoring, but she only averaged around nine shots a game this year.

And how can you not have a Marlin represented on the All-ODAC team when VWC had the best turnaround of any ODAC school from a year ago?  I'm sorry, but all conference honors aren't just statistics.

We'll see what the coaches and SIDs think.  I'm guessing they won't put a RMWC player on the first team, they'll have Mathews at least on the second team, and at least one VWC player will be recognized (most likely Phillips).
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 22, 2006, 07:03:06 pm
Nice to see Bridgewater No. 6 in the latest NCAA Regional rankings at 20-5 in the region.

Question for Pat;

Clearly I want and think the Eagles could win the ODAC tournament, but let's say they lose in the final, finishing 22-6.  What are their chances of making the tournament field?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 22, 2006, 07:20:15 pm
I have to be honest...I agree with fairmont on this one.

fairmont1113,

The only statistic that Mathews isn't impressive at is scoring, but she only averaged around nine shots a game this year.

And how can you not have a Marlin represented on the All-ODAC team when VWC had the best turnaround of any ODAC school from a year ago? I'm sorry, but all conference honors aren't just statistics.

We'll see what the coaches and SIDs think. I'm guessing they won't put a RMWC player on the first team, they'll have Mathews at least on the second team, and at least one VWC player will be recognized (most likely Phillips).

Statistics are obviously a huge part of all-conference honors. I wish they were not, but they are. For example...you think Matthews or Phillips should be honored on first or second team because their respective teams had good seasons, and that RMWC will not place someone on a team even though Stensrud and Prewitt both have better stats then Matthews and Phillips. That might be so...but why did Brandi Cochran from Hollins receive two first team selections when her team was a combined 13-37 for those two years? Why did Scales and Herr not receive any first or second team selections from last year? Fairmont proved that statistically they were equal if not higher to the two players you think should be on a team this year, and their team finished in second place last year!

In my opinion I think Amanda Reynolds and Matthews both deserve to be on a team, whether its first, second, or honorable mention. I also believe that Phillips should be on a team. However, I agree with Fairmont that it is not realistic to have those two girls on either a first or second team because even though their teams did well, their  stats are not as high as some of the other girls. Conference honors do weigh heavily on a players statistics. I do believe that both of these players could potentially be on 
second team, but I guess we will just have t5 wait and see.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 22, 2006, 07:24:05 pm

a bit biased in those pick 'ems are you?  Wink

Yes, I do seem to be a little biased ;D
If I were a betting man I might not put my money on those picks, but since I am no betting man and this board and these pick'ems have no money attached, I am going to go for some big upsets and two valley teams in the championship!

 If I am right, I will look like a genious and am almost certain guaranteed some karma ;)

However, if I am wrong I will look like the board idiot and might just go into the negatives on my karm :-\
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 22, 2006, 07:33:18 pm
I have to be honest...I agree with fairmont on this one.


Statistics are obviously a huge part of all-conference honors. I wish they were not, but they are. For example...you think Matthews or Phillips should be honored on first or second team because their respective teams had good seasons, and that RMWC will not place someone on a team even though Stensrud and Prewitt both have better stats then Matthews and Phillips. [...]

Umm, no, I don't think Mathews and Phillips should get all conference just because their teams did well.  I saw them both play, and thought they were two of the top 15 players I saw this year.

I have a feeling the ODAC will agree with me on this one when the All-ODAC honors are released.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mom#15 on February 22, 2006, 08:27:32 pm
Congratulations to Coach Dunmyer for Coach of the Year.  VWC has come a long way in 3 short years.  All the girls have played hard and it shows.

Congratulations to Heather Phillips of VWC for being named on the First Team. 

Good luck to all the teams at ODAC. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 22, 2006, 08:39:52 pm


 If I am right, I will look like a genious and am almost certain guaranteed some karma ;)

However, if I am wrong I will look like the board idiot and might just go into the negatives on my karm :-\

A "genious" with no " karm" !!! Now that would be very bad . ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 22, 2006, 08:51:29 pm
Silva 3rd straight year as POY and 4th straight year as first team all conference ( since freshman, that must be an ODAC record ).
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsid on February 22, 2006, 08:57:55 pm
Here is the All-ODAC team released Wednesday.

First-Team
Player    Position    Team
Erin Hanson   F   Roanoke
Katy Herr   G   Bridgewater
Marsha Kinder   G   Bridgewater
Jennifer King   G   Guilford
Megan Silva   G   Randolph-Macon

Second-Team
Player    Position    Team
Jessica Hunsinger   F   Washington and Lee
Michelle Orton   F   Randolph-Macon
Heather Phillips   F   Virginia Wesleyan
Amanda Renalds   F   Eastern Mennonite
Megan Stensrud   F   Randolph-Macon Woman’s

Honorable Mention
Player    Position    Team
Lauren Habel   G   Emory and Henry
Stephanie Mathews   F   Eastern Mennonite
Salem Shaffer   G   Randolph-Macon
Caroline Wesley   F   Lynchburg
Coby Wilmer    G   Hollins

 
Player-of-the-Year
Megan Silva – Randolph-Macon

Coach-of-the-Year
Stephany Dunmyer – Virginia Wesleyan

Freshman-of-the-Year
Kristine Ellis- Guilford

Scholar Athlete-of-the-Year
Marsha Kinder -Bridgewater
 

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 22, 2006, 09:03:17 pm
Way to go BC! Placing two players on first team, Kinder and Herr, that is awesome! Once again ranked in the south region at #6 after the latest rankings came out. Also, Kinder is honored as scholar-athlete of the year! Both Herr and Kinder are very deserving of this recognition.

Congratulations to both Reynolds and Matthews from EMU for making second team and honorable mention respectively.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 22, 2006, 09:04:14 pm
Congratulations to Coach Dunmyer for Coach of the Year. VWC has come a long way in 3 short years. All the girls have played hard and it shows.

Congratulations to Heather Phillips of VWC for being named on the First Team.

Good luck to all the teams at ODAC.

Heather Phillips was named to the second team, which is still a great honor! Also, congratulations to Coach Dunmyer! What a great job she has done!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 22, 2006, 09:28:21 pm
End of the season. 24 hours and half you guys will be gone home. :o :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 23, 2006, 12:37:53 am
Well, here is my report card for picking All-ODAC honors;

So here would be my voting for All-ODAC honors:

1st Team (actual)
Megan Silva, R-MC (1st team)
Katy Herr, BC (1st team)
Jessica Hunsinger, W&L (2nd team)
Stephanie Mathews, EMU (hon. men.)
Marsha Kinder, BC (1st team)

2nd Team (actual)
Jennifer King, GC (1st team)
Amanda Renalds, EMU (2nd team)
Michelle Orton, R-MC (2nd team)
Heather Phillips, VWC (2nd team)
Salem Shaffer, R-MC (hon. men.)

Honorable Mention (actual)
Caroline Wesley, LC (hon. men.)
Erin Hanson, RC (1st team)

The three girls from R-MWC all have had decent years (Stensrud (2nd team), Prewitt and Rechnitzer), but there is no way statistically to differentiate them.  I'm probably safe in assuming two of the three will earn HM.  And finally, it's hard for me to "respect" someone's stats when it's a product of "the system."  Even though they just jack up threes, I can see the ODAC honoring at least one Wasp, so I'll go with Lauren Habel (hon. men.) (at least she shoots a decent percent from there; 33%).

Player of the Year: Megan Silva, Randolph-Macon (correct)
Coach of the Year: Stephany Dunmyer, Virginia Wesleyan (correct)
Freshman of the Year: Kristine Ellis, Guilford (correct)
Scholar-Athlete of the Year: Marsha Kinder, Bridgewater (correct)

I did alright.  All 14 players that I named to either 1st, 2nd or HM earned all conference, with Coby Wilmer being the only one I didn't pick.  I picked all four post-season awards correctly (that wasn't that hard though).

I'm most surprised by Hanson earning 1st team and Mathews only getting honorable mention.  I guess the coaches and SIDs put emphasis on shooting a lot (which Mathews clearly doesn't).
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 23, 2006, 12:49:01 am
Way to go BC! Placing two players on first team, Kinder and Herr, that is awesome!

I second that congratulations!  They were both very deserving.  Amazing that both of them put up the numbers they did with such a balanced Eagles squad.

Should be a fun tournament!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 23, 2006, 01:21:51 am
End of the season. 24 hours and half you guys will be gone home. :o :o

Thanks GAVA - you can always be counted on for a "classy" comment...you make your team look bad...as usual.

Congrats to Coach Dunmyer for giving her all and leading a bunch of frosh, sophomores, and juniors to a great season!  Congrats to Silva and to every woman on all the teams this year.  What a great year - can't wait for this week!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 23, 2006, 06:57:44 am
End of the season. 24 hours and half you guys will be gone home. :o :o

Thanks GAVA - you can always be counted on for a "classy" comment...you make your team look bad...as usual.


Getting a little nervous marlin as your team gasps its last trash talking breaths?
You are one class act yourself marlin. Will be glad to see you and your third place team get on the bus back to the beach.
Noticed you never commented on your starter's kicking incident, or revise your " doubt it happened" stance. ;)

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 23, 2006, 07:27:37 am
If Dunmyer ever thought they were acting at all unsportsman like, they would be yanked and benched indefinitely.  Man, I guess people really will say anything to bash teams rising to the top - especially "non valley" schools...

Does this mean your "kicking starter" won't be playing in the tourney? :o  oh...didn't think so . ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 23, 2006, 09:18:06 am
A little more than 3 hours until tipoff in Salem! Good luck Yellow Jackets  ;D Congrats to Megan for POY yet again... and of course Michelle and Salem on their awards as well. Let's go Jackets!  8)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jimmy Mad on February 23, 2006, 09:41:40 am
I'm most surprised by Hanson earning 1st team and Mathews only getting honorable mention.  I guess the coaches and SIDs put emphasis on shooting a lot (which Mathews clearly doesn't).

Point of clarification, SIDs do not vote on any of the awards except Scholar-Athlete.  The rest are solely decided by the coaches.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 23, 2006, 10:43:47 am
...you make your team look bad...as usual.

Congrats to Coach Dunmyer for giving her all and leading a bunch of frosh, sophomores, and juniors to a great season! 

 ;D ;D ;D lol...to mention marlins and classy in same sentence....

What would you say the marlin's team players crowning moment was this season?

  a) bashing RMC on this board?
  b) refusing to help up opponents they knocked down? 
  c) kicking an opponent laying on the ground?

Too bad ODAC doesn't have a poor sportsmanship first team. VWC might have made a clean sweep. ;D
 
  Know your choking on Siva's records for 3rd time POY and 4th time first team, especially since you didn't place anybody.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 23, 2006, 11:00:56 am
You're right...we all hate R-MC, we all hate Silva...

Make you feel better?  Like feeling like the world's against you?  Keep talking about how nobody else deserves to win the tourney, how everyone is going home...

I'm just saying let's congratulate all the teams and hope for some good games.  Leave your ego at the door.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 23, 2006, 11:06:43 am
End of the season. 24 hours and half you guys will be gone home. :o :o

Thanks GAVA - you can always be counted on for a "classy" comment...you make your team look bad...as usual.


Getting a little nervous marlin as your team gasps its last trash talking breaths?
You are one class act yourself marlin. Will be glad to see you and your third place team get on the bus back to the beach.
Noticed you never commented on your starter's kicking incident, or revise your " doubt it happened" stance. ;)




Since you wanted a comment - The "kicking starter" was punished, although she still contends that she was tangled up and didn't mean to "kick" the other player.  And she's a good kid.  But of course NO ONE has EVER gotten tangled up on the floor and gotten into a scuffle, so VWC is just soooo unsportsmanlike.  Some people will look for anything they can say to bring down an up-and-coming team.  I understand, GAVA. 8)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 23, 2006, 11:09:38 am
Is anyone going to be providing in-game updates for the tourney? I'm all the way up here in New York VERY far away from Salem, with no way of listening to the game and no way of knowing what's going on other than *hopefully* some phone calls from R-MC fans at the Civic Center.  :-\
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: jmill on February 23, 2006, 11:19:56 am
GAVA,
Once again I ask, what IS your purpose in this room?  You very seldom bring anything constructive to this site.  You obviously have some bitter resentment of VIrginia Wesleyan, which is a problem for YOU to work out on your own.  Seek anger management help.

No one brings up the "kicking" incident because it is over and has been dealt with.  It doesn't excuse what happened, but it also doesn't mean that particular player or team is the only team in the ODAC to react during competition.  There seems to be a lot of "selective seeing" that goes one.  People saw the VWC player kick, but failed to see the kick by the other team that preceded it earlier or the very blatant shove by the other team that nearly knocked a VWC player through the bench.  Why didn't anyone bring that up?

The only unsportsmanship award given out this year would probably go to you GAVA, for continually attempting to degrade a young team and coach that is once again becoming a force in the ODAC.  And try to let this sink in, only ONE player, ONE GAVA, ever participated in this site.  And that might have been for one post.  You on the other hand, seem to be here everyday trying to put down VWC any possible way you can.

Relax, go to the tournament, support your team, and try not to be the bitter fan that you have become.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 23, 2006, 11:22:25 am
I'm most surprised by Hanson earning 1st team and Mathews only getting honorable mention.  I guess the coaches and SIDs put emphasis on shooting a lot (which Mathews clearly doesn't).

Point of clarification, SIDs do not vote on any of the awards except Scholar-Athlete.  The rest are solely decided by the coaches.

Thanks.  Nice choice w/ Kinder! :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on February 23, 2006, 12:43:41 pm
jmill

I agree with you, the kicking incident is over with, hopefully it has been dealt with appropiately, and conversation about it should be old news. I think VWC is very lucky that Coach Willi decided against sending the video tape into the ODAC commissioner, because it showed a blatant kick by a VWC player. If she got tangled up that is fine and understandable, but that was not the case. I not only saw it first hand, I saw it later on tape. However, I did not see a BC player kick or shove purposefully a VWC player. I think if that was the case, that there would be a little more noise on this board from you Marlin fans. There were several posts about the kicking incident by VWC, only you have brought it up against BC. Suck it up, a player from your team made a mistake, I am sure she is sorry for it, it is over. Quit making up things to try and make this incident seem a little less classless by your Marlins. You sound like a little kid.....

"well....she shoved me and kicked me...so I kicked her...why isn't anyone getting made at her" :'(
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 23, 2006, 01:05:29 pm
I agree with you valley, I was there, I saw a blatant, and I mean blatant kick by a VWC player. I did not see any blatant and puposeful plays by BC. There is a difference in playing hard, aggressive, and physical, compared to playing dirty. A lot of teams in this league play very physical. There have been two instances I have seen where there were some really hard intentional fouls called. Some of the fans for those two teams were upset because they argued, "they're just playing hard!!!" Those fans have a point, the players were probably just playing hard. However, what I saw at VWC was a very classless, blatant, and dirty play. There was absolutely no need for it, and she was absolutely not tangled up. I guess Marcus Vick was also tangled up, or maybe he tripped over that guy's ankle?

Jmill, I also agree with you. It is over, it has been over and dealt with. Lets forget about it because it is the most exciting time of the year...tournament time!

Good luck to all the teams!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: jmill on February 23, 2006, 01:22:08 pm
Fairmont, Valley,
This is my last post about this.  Just as the both of you saw the kick, I was also at that game and saw the shove.  Just as blatant as the kick you describe, so was the shove.  It happened, despite the fact that the two of you didn't see it for whatever reason.  And Valley, this was no attempt at a "she shoved me, she kicked me so..."  explanation.  Just accept the fact that your players, as well as others on other teams, do the same thing.

Good luck to your teams in the tournament.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mom#15 on February 23, 2006, 02:37:58 pm
I am trying to listen to the semifinal games at odaconline.com but can't locate where to listen/watch.  Can anybody help me?

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 23, 2006, 02:41:52 pm
I haven't been able to find any links either... so I don't know if they are broadcasting it over the internet or not. Does anyone know the results of the R-MC/W&L game? ???
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Mom#15 on February 23, 2006, 02:45:32 pm
I just spoke with Joe from VWC's and he said that RMC won today but that they had a run for the money.  He also said that unless the one of the school's playing had radio coverage we won't hear/see anything until at least tomorrow....bummer....ODAC should provide coverage today too.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on February 23, 2006, 02:48:32 pm
How close is M. Silva to breaking Fletcher Johnson's scoring record?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 23, 2006, 02:51:55 pm
Yeah that really bummed me out today, I was all set to listen to the games, but then I re-read the announcement and it says they will only be broadcasting the semi-finals and the championship.  I think that is bs, those of us that just graduated and are in grad school ( ;) RMC30) or have jobs can't be there but I would have definetly listened! I guess for tommorrow...the score isn't posted yet and it is 2:49, GET ON IT SCHLOTTY!  love ya though!! If anybody has access to a computer please post something about the game, no detail too small!! I want to know what a "run for their money" actually means!!

TC..it's CBASS in case u didn't know!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 23, 2006, 02:59:51 pm
Yes... a friendly face on the board  :) Big sis told me that Schlotty couldn't go to the tourney - prob had to stay back and cover baseball. Hopefully she'll have something on the website soon or post up on here when she gets the info from the game. I'm gonna call some of the ladies in a little while and find out how the game went... I'll let ya know.
T.C.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 23, 2006, 03:01:41 pm
YellowJacket lawyer: According to my records she needed to score 16 pts. today to surpass Fletcher Johnson's record.  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 23, 2006, 03:05:20 pm
Ok I have to say I think that is BS that she didn't go to the tourney! I am sure she went to the men's. Baseball isn't even in "full swing" yet, are they? Any matter, I think someone should be there, especially since they are yet again the top seed. RMC should evaluate their budget and see if they can hire a "deputy Schlotty"...to do things like cover the widely popular ( ???) baseball team! TC, I am trying to go on Saturday, I know Crit and Lloyd are going!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on February 23, 2006, 03:06:59 pm
YellowJacket lawyer: According to my records she needed to score 16 pts. today to surpass Fletcher Johnson's record.  ;D

This is fantastic.  It would make her the greatest hoops player to ever come out of R-MC, wouldn't it?  I love it.

I finally got to see her play at Roanoke in December, and it was something to see.  Enjoyed every minute of it. ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 23, 2006, 03:22:41 pm
There is no question about it:
** Megan Silva IS the best basketball player to play for Randolph-Macon College.** Notice I did not just say women's basketball.

She is all-time leader in points, assists, and steals for RMC Women's Basketball. Her steals are the most for either men’s or women’s basketball in the history of both the ODAC and Randolph-Macon. She probably surpassed Fletcher Johnson today to become the all-time leader in points for both RMC men's and women's basketball.  She needs just 22 more assists to surpass the ODAC's men all-time leading scorer. It is obvious that she has individual talent and can score or make a play when ever needed tom, but what makes her the best player is she made her whole team better, no matter which team was on the court! And on top of that she is an awesome person, I do not know anyone that could say a bad word about her...now how many people can honestly say that not one person has something to bad to say about them??

I am so happy for her, nobody else deserves it more! :'( :)
I wish I knew the score today, or something :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 23, 2006, 03:23:14 pm
Cbass: You are so lucky... I checked on airfare to see if I could get a last minute ticket... but that's $1000 I don't have... I could make the 9 hr. drive from NY, but I've got too much work to do this weekend  :'( Guess I'll just have to rely on updates from you all!

Jacketlawyer: I am totally in agreement that Silv is the greatest to ever play at R-MC... she's obviously going to break the scoring record - hopefully I'll be invited to her Hall of Fame dinner when she gets inducted  :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: 78rmc on February 23, 2006, 03:28:15 pm
RMC 79-71, Silva gets 22 pts.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on February 23, 2006, 03:30:51 pm
So it's official--she's R-M greatest hoops scorer, ever?  Congratulations to her, and the R-M ladies!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 23, 2006, 03:36:51 pm
79-71!! Wow, that's a close one for a #1-#8 seed! What was going on?
Bless you 78rmc for posting! ;D

Silva is all time leading scorer for RMC...that's a lot of players and she is number 1!!! ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 23, 2006, 03:40:59 pm
WHOO HOO FYI:
ODACONLINE.com score is posted along with Carroll's post game comments!
PS. TC, on odaconline.com go to where silv got player of the year and you can hear a sound bite from her, I have listened to it like 6 times, it makes me smile! ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 23, 2006, 03:51:06 pm
FINALLY got to see the recap and box score from the RMC game and listened to Coach LaHaye's comments... GREAT JOB JACKETS!!! Congrats to Silv on breaking the RMC scoring record  :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emoryfan on February 23, 2006, 04:14:16 pm
WOW!  An 8 point game between #1 and #8!!  If that's any indication of how the tournament will be, its going to be an exciting one!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 23, 2006, 04:38:58 pm
So it's official--she's R-M greatest hoops scorer, ever?  Congratulations to her, and the R-M ladies!

Congrats to RMC and Silva ! Good game ladies. Also good game from Orton (16 points ) and freshman Hiltunen ( 12 points, same HS & coach as Silva ).
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 23, 2006, 04:54:34 pm
The first game is always the toughest for R-MC during tourney time.  They should get their feet on the ground and play a good game against Guilford...they need to because Ellis and King had stellar games, it looks like Ellis had one of her games where she just takes over!

#5 Guilford 71 #4 EMU 47
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac2005 on February 23, 2006, 05:43:39 pm
ATTENTION ODAC WOMEN'S BASKETBALL FANS

The league will bring you live streaming audio and video of tomorrow's semifinals and fSunday's final.  You can access the link by visiting www.odaconline.com then going to the official tournament site. 

Dr. Rick Seidel and former Lynchburg Head Coach Richie Waggoner will bring you all the action.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on February 23, 2006, 05:46:38 pm
I did some digging to find the 1st 2 games on radio/internet.  W&L/RMC game had a link on W&L's website through a local radio station.

I was able to listen to the The Guildford/EMU game through a link off of the Royals web-site.  

RMC missed a lot of layups in the first game.  Silva was only 2-9 1st half but turned it up a notch in the 2nd half.

Haven't found any links to listen to the last 2 games, but am still searching.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 23, 2006, 05:59:51 pm
I did some digging to find the 1st 2 games on radio/internet.  W&L/RMC game had a link on W&L's website through a local radio station.

I was able to listen to the The Guildford/EMU game through a link off of the Royals web-site.  

RMC missed a lot of layups in the first game.  Silva was only 2-9 1st half but turned it up a notch in the 2nd half.

Haven't found any links to listen to the last 2 games, but am still searching.

Wow, Hoopstermom you are smart! I went to the RMC website after the odaconline site didn't have anything, but I didn't think of going to the opposing team :( That wasn't too bright on my part!

Anyway, I look forward to tommorrow's game!
GO R-MC!!!


Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on February 23, 2006, 06:45:32 pm
Bridgewater      85
Emory & Henry  46
                                 Final
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on February 23, 2006, 06:48:11 pm
link to listen to BC/EH game is
http://www.bridgewater.edu/Sports/broadcasts.html
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: religion_major on February 23, 2006, 07:45:33 pm
Bridgewater beats Emory & Henry 85-46.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 23, 2006, 08:46:44 pm
The first game is always the toughest for R-MC during tourney time.  They should get their feet on the ground and play a good game against Guilford...they need to because Ellis and King had stellar games, it looks like Ellis had one of her games where she just takes over!

#5 Guilford 71 #4 EMU 47

Guilford hasn't matched up well against RMC this year. Both games were 82-45. W & L on the other hand only lost by 10 the first time this season against the Yellow Jackets.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 23, 2006, 08:52:52 pm
GAVA,
Once again I ask, what IS your purpose in this room?  You very seldom bring anything constructive to this site. 

  You on the other hand, seem to be here everyday trying to put down VWC any possible way you can.


You are kidding, right? I have 100 posts on this board with maybe a dozen pertaining to the marlins unsportsmanlike style. You on the other hand have posted 7 times, all to me I believe. :o :o :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 23, 2006, 10:03:23 pm
Roanoke - 66, VWC - 50... looks like this is shaping up to be a VERY interesting tournament.
My picks for tomorrow are R-MC (obviously  :P) and Roanoke.
Thank goodness class is over at 12:30 and I can listen to the games!!!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 23, 2006, 10:06:39 pm
.....right up unitil Macon gets beat in the ODAC tournament., then know somewhere i will be sitting in the stands smiling patting my own back.

 :D  The party that will never get started. Bye marlins.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 23, 2006, 10:15:36 pm
Roanoke - 66, VWC - 50... looks like this is shaping up to be a VERY interesting tournament.
My picks for tomorrow are R-MC (obviously  :P) and Roanoke.
Thank goodness class is over at 12:30 and I can listen to the games!!!  ;D  ;D

I will take RMC and BC. My crystal ball says that match up gets ODAC two teams in the nationals. ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 23, 2006, 10:22:58 pm
I will take RMC and BC. My crystal ball says that match up gets ODAC two teams in the nationals. ;)

Good point... having two ODAC teams would be GREAT for the reputation of the ODAC on a national scale... guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens!  8)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 23, 2006, 10:31:24 pm
Great job to the Eagles! Every single girl on the roster scored but one player. Every player got to play! Always love when that can happen! It was just a great, well-balanced game by BC. I am sorry that the Eagles will not get to see VWC again, because I am confident that they would run all over the Marlins. Guess we will have to wait until next year.

VWC lost for the same reason that has shot them in the foot all year, their horrid shooting percentage. The Marlins were only 28% from the field. They seem to play great defense, but struggle to get it done offensivley. Still, a great season for the Marlins.

My picks....BC AND RMC (rematch from 2005!!!)

I would love to see two ODAC schools represented in the NCAA tournament! If BC gets to the championship, there is a very good chance we will see two teams! When was the last time that happened?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 23, 2006, 10:43:53 pm

VWC lost for the same reason that has shot them in the foot all year, their horrid shooting percentage. The Marlins were only 28% from the field. They seem to play great defense, but struggle to get it done offensivley. Still, a great season for the Marlins.

My picks....BC AND RMC (rematch from 2005!!!)

I would love to see two ODAC schools represented in the NCAA tournament! If BC gets to the championship, there is a very good chance we will see two teams! When was the last time that happened?

Two ODAC teams will be great. Both just need to take care of business tomorrow. VWC coach deserves coach of the year.
Great job with a team with medium talent and some attitude problems. I don't know how long she will stay in D III. After asst coach jobs at Divs I & II, I think VWC will prove to be just a stop on the way to a head coach position at a higher division.   
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 23, 2006, 11:44:49 pm
Good job, Quakers!  Congratulations.  Give it your best on Friday and let's see what happens!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on February 24, 2006, 12:52:36 am
Roanoke - 66, VWC - 50... looks like this is shaping up to be a VERY interesting tournament.
My picks for tomorrow are R-MC (obviously  :P) and Roanoke.
Thank goodness class is over at 12:30 and I can listen to the games!!!  ;D  ;D

Well BC beat Roanoke by 14 at home and 21 at Roanoke. I don't see a let down tomorrow, BC is on a mission.   

BC       75
Roanoke 56
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 24, 2006, 07:20:40 am


ODAC Quarterfinals
No. 1 RMC vs. No. 8 W&L (12:30)
No. 4. EMU vs. No. 5 GC (2:30)
No. 2 BC vs. No, 7 E&H (6:00)
No. 3. VWC vs. No 6. RC (8:00)




Very impressive Fairmont. You are the only one to nail all the games yesterday. ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 24, 2006, 08:44:56 am
FYI - With 21 points vs EMU yesterday, Jennifer King is now in 2nd place at Guilford for points in a season.  King's 585 surpassed the 584 scored by Brenda Davis in 1992-93, while Laura Haynes (1997-98) holds 1st at 679.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on February 24, 2006, 10:43:20 am
Awesome season VWC - despite all the trash talk, which in my opinion shouldn't be tolerated on this board, you proved yourself on the court and played with a ton of heart!  Roanoke is a hard team to play in Roanoke - but next year should bring great things.  Congrats to Coach Dunmyer on coach of the year- totally deserved.  Like most of the people on this board who love ODAC basketball and don't feel the need to start a hate campaign against certain schools, I'm cheering on all the teams from here on out.  Great season and good luck!  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 24, 2006, 11:14:43 am
Today's matchup between R-MC and Guilford, should be a win for R-MC!

Guilford hasn't matched up well against RMC this year. Both games were 82-45. W & L on the other hand only lost by 10 the first time this season against the Yellow Jackets.
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GAVA, I disagree with you in that, YES R-MC should easily beat Guilford, but ODAC tournament time is different that game time.  Some players that haven't done anything all season can come to play, and players that have played well can shut down! Now that said, I think as long as Silva and Orton get their double digits, and R-MC's stellar defense (Kristen Morgan) makes sure that no other player besides King (she is going to get her points) and Ellis get double digits, they will get the "W."!!

Also, RMCALUM30 picked Roanoke over Bridgewater, because like me, we know that something happens to Roanoke when they enter the Salem Civic Center. Bridgewater might me "on a mission" but Roanoke turns it up a notch during tourney time, might have something to do with every single student from Roanoke being in the Civic Center, and the rest of the teams having an average of 10 fans! :-\

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on February 24, 2006, 11:19:17 am
Silva's number ought to be retired.  I don't think R-M has ever done that before, but they should consider it.

Strike that.  They shouldn't consider it-they should just do it.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 24, 2006, 11:37:30 am
Hey Guilford, don't let the RMC folks convince you they've won before you even step on the court!  They're good, but they're not invincible.  That's why we actually play the games.  Otherwise, why bother?  :)  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac2005 on February 24, 2006, 12:02:17 pm
Here is the link for the tournament web site that you can access the webcasting for today's games.

http://www.odaconline.com/index_04womens.html
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 24, 2006, 12:43:50 pm
About the Bridgewater vs. Roanoke game........

Since Katy Herr, Shannon Scales, Amy Childs, and Jessica Young came to BC for their freshmen year three years ago, they have been 7-0 against Roanoke.

Bridgewater beat Roanoke by 14 at home, and 21 in front of that impressive home crowd.

Bridgewater does bring a decent crowd, although I must admit, nobody brings a crowd to the civic center like Roanoke.

I really think that after BC played that horrid game against VWC on February 11th, they have turned it up a notch. Those four girls I mentioned earlier are 4-2 for their career in tournament time. I think it is BC time today!!!

BC 80
RC 66

RMC 71
GC   62
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 24, 2006, 12:48:12 pm
Today's matchup between R-MC and Guilford, should be a win for R-MC!

Guilford hasn't matched up well against RMC this year. Both games were 82-45. W & L on the other hand only lost by 10 the first time this season against the Yellow Jackets.
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" Today's matchup between R-MC and Guilford, should be a win for R-MC !"
is not a quote from me.  To quote someone tab the quote button ( of course I guess you could still edit and add to it ).

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 24, 2006, 12:54:22 pm
Silva's number ought to be retired.  I don't think R-M has ever done that before, but they should consider it.

Strike that.  They shouldn't consider it-they should just do it.

I totally agree 100%... but (and don't get me wrong, I love my alma mater) trying to get anything done through the "red tape" at R-MC is pretty much impossible unless someone in the administration is motivated enough to do it. Maybe under the new president they'll actually consider it and MAYBE get it done.  ::)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 24, 2006, 12:55:30 pm
5 minutes until tipoff!!! Listening/Watching on the internet... Let's go R-MC!!!!  ;D :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 24, 2006, 12:55:54 pm
Awesome season VWC - despite all the trash talk, which in my opinion shouldn't be tolerated on this board, you proved yourself on the court and played with a ton of heart!  Roanoke is a hard team to play in Roanoke - but next year should bring great things.  Congrats to Coach Dunmyer on coach of the year- totally deserved.  Like most of the people on this board who love ODAC basketball and don't feel the need to start a hate campaign against certain schools, I'm cheering on all the teams from here on out.  Great season and good luck!  ;D
You know oldschool the marlin fans did as much trash talking as any team on the board.
Just review all the posts over the last two months. In fact it was their posts that usually got things rolling. You really need to remove the splinter from your own eye first. I love ODAC, I think your coach is great, I think your players were poor sports, and I think your fans expectations were way overblown.
I am sure VWC will be a contender next year, but I don't think they will win the conference.  Appreciate what Silva is doing for ODAC's visibility and have a good offseason.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on February 24, 2006, 01:07:13 pm
I would like to thank Stephanie Mathews and Amanda Renalds for their great careers at EMU.  These two fine women along with several others have really turned EMU womens basketball into a contender from the doormat it used to be 5 years ago.  These ladies have tied for the most wins in a four year span and made it to the sweet 16 in the NCAA's.  They really have been special to watch.

Thanks for your contribution!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on February 24, 2006, 01:36:53 pm
Silva's number ought to be retired.  I don't think R-M has ever done that before, but they should consider it.

Strike that.  They shouldn't consider it-they should just do it.

I totally agree 100%... but (and don't get me wrong, I love my alma mater) trying to get anything done through the "red tape" at R-MC is pretty much impossible unless someone in the administration is motivated enough to do it. Maybe under the new president they'll actually consider it and MAYBE get it done.  ::)

Well, I don't know the mechanics of it all.  Seems to me they should already have thought of it.  I love my alma mater, too, but if you need someone to raise hell over it, I'm your man.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 24, 2006, 01:46:37 pm
Halftime Score:
R-MC, 41
Guilford, 28

Macon doing a GREAT job converting layups and rebounding. The entire team is hitting the boards and working together very well (not surprised about that! :)). Silva started out a little slow but it now hitting her shots... Morgan with great defense as usual.
R-MC needs to contain Guilford from the outside, because they've been doing a great job at hitting threes. Ellis and King playing very strong and finishing their shots... but King has 3 fouls (although she got her third with 10 minutes to go in the half and has been able to avoid the 4th)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 24, 2006, 01:48:01 pm
Silva's number ought to be retired.  I don't think R-M has ever done that before, but they should consider it.

Strike that.  They shouldn't consider it-they should just do it.

I totally agree 100%... but (and don't get me wrong, I love my alma mater) trying to get anything done through the "red tape" at R-MC is pretty much impossible unless someone in the administration is motivated enough to do it. Maybe under the new president they'll actually consider it and MAYBE get it done.  ::)

Well, I don't know the mechanics of it all. Seems to me they should already have thought of it. I love my alma mater, too, but if you need someone to raise hell over it, I'm your man.


Jacketlawyer: Don't say something to us alumni ballas (me and RMCalum30 mainly) that you aren't prepared to do! I am in Richmond, and I work for a law firm as well, and I'm about to get one of our corporate attorneys here to get on the "Get Silva's jersey retired" campaign! I wonder what you even do to attempt such a feat?

ANYWAY....HOW AWESOME IS THAT YOU CAN WATCH THE GAME!!
Thank you to whoever was responsible for that! I am at work (with my door shut obviously) getting to watch my favorite ladies play the game I love!

At Halftime my prediction: RMC 85 GUILFORD 67

Silva is dominating, Orton is dominating, King has 3 fouls= BIG RMC WIN!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 24, 2006, 01:52:48 pm
Yep... we definitely will hold ya to that Jacketlawyer  :) And I am pumped as well about being able to watch the ladies from 8 hours away! Good to see Coach Willi during the interview at halftime... she's a great coach and a great person.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on February 24, 2006, 01:53:16 pm
OneSealTeam:

I just emailed the Assistant AD, with whom I was fraternity brothers with at R-M.  So I've fired a shot today already.  I'm no longer a corporate attorney, but we litigators can get the job done as well. ;D

Let me know what else I can do.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 24, 2006, 02:35:58 pm
Cbass nice prediction... final score... RMC 85, Guilford 63
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 24, 2006, 02:42:43 pm
Cbass nice prediction... final score... RMC 85, Guilford 63

Good game ladies. Game not as close as score. 10 players scoring. GC just too small to match up. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 24, 2006, 02:49:41 pm
My vote for best play of the game came in the first half with about 9 minutes left to play: Salem Shaffer brought the ball upcourt and gave a nice lob pass to Silva on the right block, who touch passed to Michelle Orton wide open on the left block, and Orton layed it in! That was perfection!
TC...is this not the best thing ever that we can watch the game?? Carroll, Senske, and Silv are suppose to be getting interviewed! If you have Silv's mom's cell phone, I would call her cause her grill is all up on the camera, when it is in "break" HAHAHAHA ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 24, 2006, 02:57:53 pm
Ha yea I know Sarah and I were talking about that on the phone during the 2nd half... I really liked her RMC foam finger that made it in to a few shots  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 24, 2006, 03:50:08 pm
What did RMCALUM30 and I say....Roanoke comes to play at the tournament!! They are leading at halftime, I am not calling it a win yet, so calm down...but you got to admit you didn't expect to this kind of play from Roanoke! ???
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 24, 2006, 04:35:12 pm
But Bridgewater wins!! :o :o

So tommorrow at 2 pm R-MC and Bridgewater! :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on February 24, 2006, 04:37:37 pm
What did RMCALUM30 and I say....Roanoke comes to play at the tournament!! They are leading at halftime, I am not calling it a win yet, so calm down...but you got to admit you didn't expect to this kind of play from Roanoke! ???

Good call!                                                                 BC 69
                                                                                RC  54      Final

On to the rubber match with RMC!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 24, 2006, 05:15:18 pm
FYI:
According to my calculations, Megan Silva needs 44 points to be the all-time leading scorer in ODAC Women's Basketball History! Either a VERY BIG game against Bridgewater tommorrow, or even better first round of NCAAs at CRENSHAW!!! TC...you got to look at coming down for something...all the old schoolers can chip in!!!  ;D This is history and WE KNOW HER!!!  8)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 24, 2006, 05:29:22 pm


On to the rubber match with RMC!

2 ODAC teams to the national tournament !!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 24, 2006, 05:31:59 pm

BC 80
RC 66

RMC 71
GC   62


I am taking you to the track next time. ;D You are 6-0 for the tourney but sure hope you are wrong tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 24, 2006, 11:39:57 pm
I am 6-0 for the tournament and would love to go 7-0!!! I just really hope that it is a good game, there have been several blowouts thus far in the tournament.

I have a correction to make....

I said that Katy Herr, Jessica Young, Amy Childs, and Shannon Scales were 7-0 all-time against Roanoke since they came to BC. However, after I looked it up, I discovered I was wrong. They were 8-0, and now, after today's win, are 9-0. This is the third year in a row that BC has ended Roanoke's season. Way to go BC!

Well....it all comes down to this.....a rematch of last year..RMC v BC....without a doubt the top two teams in the ODAC..and lets hope that no matter the outcome of tomorrow we have two ODAC teams that will be represented in the NCAAs!!!


LETS GO EAGLES!!!

Title: Any RMC vs BC updates anyone?
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 25, 2006, 02:38:50 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 25, 2006, 02:49:46 pm
RMC - 42, Bridgewater - 30
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 25, 2006, 02:50:41 pm
**that's the halftime score**
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 25, 2006, 02:52:33 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: rip08 on February 25, 2006, 03:13:16 pm
52-40 RMC  - 15 minutes left to go
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: rip08 on February 25, 2006, 03:20:34 pm
57-47 RMC 11 minutes left
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on February 25, 2006, 03:21:50 pm
RMC came to play today! I would expect no less from the 8th place team in the county. Now I just hope BC can make it respectable (less than a 10 pt game) and get an atlarge. Hardin-Simmons lost today which may help. Guess we will see.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: religion_major on February 25, 2006, 03:26:38 pm
RMC 61
BC 47
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: religion_major on February 25, 2006, 03:33:34 pm
RMC 65
BC 54

5 min. left in the game
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 25, 2006, 03:38:57 pm
71-58 RMC, 2 1/2 min remaining
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 25, 2006, 03:49:26 pm
RMC WINS IT, 79-65!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o ;D :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: religion_major on February 25, 2006, 03:51:14 pm
RMC 79
BC 65

Congrats to the Randolph Macon Yellow Jackets on their 2006 ODAC women's basketball championship.  Now all that's left to see is if Bridgewater can get into the tourny with a pool c bid.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 25, 2006, 03:52:26 pm
All tournament team:
BC - Amy Childs
RMC - Salem Shaffer
BC - Katie Herr
RMC - Michelle Orton

Tournament MVP... no surprise... MEGAN SILVA (I believe they said she had 34 points today)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 25, 2006, 03:59:26 pm
Way to go RMC !!!  :) :) 
Silva had a monster game and showed why she is the best to  have ever played in ODAC.

ODAC records for career scoring, assists, steals, Player of Year  ( 3)  , and First Team All Conference  ( 4, every year ).

34 points today....thank you Megan !! ;D

Yellow jackets jumped out to 6-0 and never looked back, led wire to wire. Final score 79-65.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on February 25, 2006, 05:05:57 pm
  Marymount win over Mary Washington hurts any at large chance that BC had.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on February 25, 2006, 05:31:30 pm
Agreed! Congrats to RMC and Silva. BC didn't make it any easier getting in. Will just have to wait and see. If they don't get in it is VWC loss that kept them out.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on February 25, 2006, 05:34:25 pm
Way to go RMC !!!  :) :) 
Silva had a monster game and showed why she is the best to  have ever played in ODAC.

ODAC records for career scoring, assists, steals, Player of Year  ( 3)  , and First Team All Conference  ( 4, every year ).

34 points today....thank you Megan !! ;D

Yellow jackets jumped out to 6-0 and never looked back, led wire to wire. Final score 79-65.

And the ultimate compliment came from the BC play-by-play annoucers as they said Silva should get a shot at trying out for the WNBA, and they were serious!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on February 25, 2006, 05:36:47 pm
Way to go RMC !!!  :) :) 
Silva had a monster game and showed why she is the best to  have ever played in ODAC.

ODAC records for career scoring, assists, steals, Player of Year  ( 3)  , and First Team All Conference  ( 4, every year ).

34 points today....thank you Megan !! ;D

Yellow jackets jumped out to 6-0 and never looked back, led wire to wire. Final score 79-65.

And the ultimate compliment came from the BC play-by-play annoucers as they said Silva should get a shot at trying out for the WNBA, and they were serious!

She totally ought to try out.  I think she could've played DI somewhere, but we were lucky (no, blessed) that she came to R-M.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on February 25, 2006, 05:37:55 pm
Way to go RMC !!!  :) :) 
Silva had a monster game and showed why she is the best to  have ever played in ODAC.

ODAC records for career scoring, assists, steals, Player of Year  ( 3)  , and First Team All Conference  ( 4, every year ).

34 points today....thank you Megan !! ;D

Yellow jackets jumped out to 6-0 and never looked back, led wire to wire. Final score 79-65.

And the ultimate compliment came from the BC play-by-play annoucers as they said Silva should get a shot at trying out for the WNBA, and they were serious!

more people would pay attention to her at the D3 level than they would in the wnba.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 25, 2006, 05:40:37 pm
Way to go RMC !!!  :) :) 
Silva had a monster game and showed why she is the best to  have ever played in ODAC.

ODAC records for career scoring, assists, steals, Player of Year  ( 3)  , and First Team All Conference  ( 4, every year ).

34 points today....thank you Megan !! ;D

Yellow jackets jumped out to 6-0 and never looked back, led wire to wire. Final score 79-65.

And the ultimate compliment came from the BC play-by-play annoucers as they said Silva should get a shot at trying out for the WNBA, and they were serious!

I don't think a D-III player has made the WNBA yet, have they? I am sure she could.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 25, 2006, 05:41:42 pm
How did I lose karma today by posting the score? ???
Oh well...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 25, 2006, 05:46:47 pm
Quote from: Jacketlawyer link=topic=1077.msg494211#msg494211   I think she could've played DI somewhere, but we were lucky (no, blessed) that she came to R-M.
[quote

Sure she could have. The next point guard behind her out of Hermitage High is playing DI. And of course after that one came Hiltunen who will someday take Silva's place as floor general.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 25, 2006, 05:54:19 pm

more people would pay attention to her at the D3 level than they would in the wnba.

Not sure I understand what you mean? Would she be as dominating in the WNBA? Of course not.
Would she be more widely known if she was a WNBA player playing in nationally televised games? Of course.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on February 25, 2006, 05:58:45 pm

more people would pay attention to her at the D3 level than they would in the wnba.

Not sure I understand what you mean? Would she be as dominating in the WNBA? Of course not.
Would she be more widely known if she was a WNBA player playing in nationally televised games? Of course.

The point of the post is that no one cares about the WNBA and that its a second rate league at best.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 25, 2006, 06:05:18 pm

The point of the post is that no one cares about the WNBA and that its a second rate league at best.

Second rate to what? It is the only option for a woman to make a living playing basketball. The best college graduates go every year. I watch the WNBA as do many other fans of women's basketball. ( Of course I must admit I also watch college, HS, middle school....lol ;D)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 25, 2006, 06:51:58 pm
Fantastic Job today RMC Yellow Jackets! Silva is just a measily 10 points away from the ODAC scoring record! (According to my calculations)! Thanks for making it another exciting year in women's basketball in the ODAC!

So, since there are so many brilliant d3 basketball people on this board...When do the NCAA's post the bracket? With their record will they most likely get to host the game at Crenshaw? I can't remember all the logistics of last year??

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on February 25, 2006, 06:54:53 pm

The point of the post is that no one cares about the WNBA and that its a second rate league at best.

Second rate to what? It is the only option for a woman to make a living playing basketball. The best college graduates go every year. I watch the WNBA as do many other fans of women's basketball. ( Of course I must admit I also watch college, HS, middle school....lol ;D)

second rate to other professional leagues and even college!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 25, 2006, 07:44:45 pm
Great job to BC and to RMC!!! Definitely the best two teams in the ODAC! Two teams who would do a great job representing the ODAC on a national level (lets hope!?!). For those of you who are chomping at the bit to find anything out about the NCAA tournament, nothing will be known until tomorrow evening about Bridgewater's chances. Hopefully Coach Willi and the Eagles will know something by around 6:00 pm.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on February 25, 2006, 08:02:45 pm
Just got home from the game!  RMC played shut down defense against the Eagles.  The refs were pretty tough on RMC in the 1st half though -  BC was in double bonus with 11 minutes to play still in the 1st half because they were calling the game so close.

They shut down Marsh Kinder from outside.  She killed Roanoke in the 2nd half of their game with 3's.  She didn't make one against RMC today.

(BTW, RMC' defense held King to 9 points in the semi final game yesterday.)

BC is a tough, very good team.  Katy Herr was everywhere.  I hope they get a bid to the tourney.  They knock out some teams and make the ODAC look good.

Can't wait to watch Silva and the Jackets play again.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 25, 2006, 09:14:47 pm
Great job to BC and to RMC!!! Definitely the best two teams in the ODAC! Two teams who would do a great job representing the ODAC on a national level (lets hope!?!). For those of you who are chomping at the bit to find anything out about the NCAA tournament, nothing will be known until tomorrow evening about Bridgewater's chances. Hopefully Coach Willi and the Eagles will know something by around 6:00 pm.



Best of luck to the Eagles ! They certainly deserve a bid. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on February 25, 2006, 09:20:24 pm
Just wanted to post some comments on an Outstanding tournament:

First off congratulations to RMC for winning and Silva was indeed very impressive.

BC- Very good team and I hope they get in but the lose to VWC and Ogelthorpe will hurt their chances. Katy Herr was outstanding and a pleasure to watch play. She gave it all she had today.

Roanoke- They will be very tough next year. They played a great tournament and gave BC all that they wanted. They only lose two guards and Hanson will be back. And they always play well in the Civic Center.

Last but not least. As a fan of the game many Kudos go out to some of the fine seniors who played their final games this week. They have been a joy to watch play over the last 4 years and made the ODAC a league that is respected.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 26, 2006, 04:12:48 am
Nice to see Bridgewater No. 6 in the latest NCAA Regional rankings at 20-5 in the region.

Question for Pat;

Clearly I want and think the Eagles could win the ODAC tournament, but let's say they lose in the final, finishing 22-6.  What are their chances of making the tournament field?

I don't frequent every board every day, sorry.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on February 26, 2006, 06:52:56 pm
Pat says Bridgewater is in (fairly handily). 

See the front page of the projections.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 26, 2006, 10:04:55 pm
BRIDGEWATER IS DANCING!!!!!

Two ODAC teams in the NCAAs!!!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 26, 2006, 10:14:09 pm
BRIDGEWATER IS DANCING!!!!!

Two ODAC teams in the NCAAs!!!!!

WOOHOO!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on February 26, 2006, 10:42:55 pm
Ok Kid,

When does the train leave for Macon or Mary Washington?  ;D ;D ;D

Im going!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 26, 2006, 11:07:22 pm
Congrats BC.  ;D

2 ODAC teams in. That is super !!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 27, 2006, 08:05:50 am
Congratulations to RMC and BC.  Hope you go far!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on February 27, 2006, 10:28:07 am
Looks like Bates has a girl 6'1 on the inside that domintates....anyone know anything about them other than just stats?  Looks like they only have 2 seniors and alot of juniors....so much like BC.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 27, 2006, 11:31:01 am
Congrats to both R-MC and BC on making it to NCAA play! I don't know much about Hood and Bates, and I know records don't really tell all, but I would go on the assumption that both teams will end up in the 2nd round on the 4th.  ;D

And looking at the rest of both brackets, I'll predict R-MC heading to at least the Elite Eight (my prediction is they'll have a tough fight against McMurry in that game, and then match up with either Mary Wash or Southern Maine in the Final Four)... but two tough teams (Mount Saint Mary's AND Southern Maine) stand in the way of BC's hopes of getting that far.

Not surprised that R-MC has home court advantage in the first round - I'm sure Crenshaw will be packed with students this Wednesday and Saturday, just like it was last year at this time.  8)

Safe travels for BC up here to chilly New York!  :)

Good luck to both teams, and represent the ODAC well!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 27, 2006, 01:24:16 pm
Not surprised that R-MC has home court advantage in the first round - I'm sure Crenshaw will be packed with students this Wednesday and Saturday, just like it was last year at this time.  8)

Correction... RMC will play Friday, not Wednesday  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 27, 2006, 02:19:19 pm
Like everybody else, CONGRATULATIONS BC and R-MC on making to the NCAA Tournament! It is a tremendous accomplishment.

R-MC will be hosting Hood College, and since I am a Maryland native, I do have a little bit of insight on what makes up Hood's roster.  Most of these young women are from small, 1A (the smallest population) high schools in western Maryland, not usually the best competition.  Nobody tops in height 5'10 Danielle Gallagher who was Rookie of the Year last year for the AWCC. The next best player is Rita Willis 5'9 senior, she was AWCC Player-of-the-Year last year. Both of these players respectively average around 15 points and 10 rebounds a game.  The rest of the team are definetly utility players, but nobody ever contributes significantly.  Their 3 pointer percentage is low.  The AWCC is a relatively weak conference especially compared to the ODAC, in my opinion. 

With all this said, I think that RMC is deeper, taller, stronger, and more talented than Hood College, and should easily proceed to the Second Round. ;D

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 27, 2006, 02:25:11 pm
thanks for that expert analysis c!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on February 27, 2006, 03:44:59 pm
Thanks TC! Are you going to be able to make it to any of the games?

I am JV now!! :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on February 27, 2006, 04:44:17 pm
Haha... me too! I'm trying to get to Friday's game, but I'll DEFINITELY be there on Saturday  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 27, 2006, 05:54:29 pm
From the Lewiston Sun Journal:

"If I were the NCAA committee, I wouldn't take us. We have eight losses," said Bates coach Jim Murphy. "If you look at how many teams have ever gotten in after losing eight games, I know it isn't many."

Very interesting............
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on February 27, 2006, 07:22:06 pm
Thats Maine right?? Right near when Im from.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: gcalum on February 27, 2006, 08:07:33 pm
Bates, yes is in Maine. Lewiston is the town. Where are you from in Maine?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on February 28, 2006, 07:59:31 am
Right down the road in Bath. Still have family there now. My aunt is the head baby doc there.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on February 28, 2006, 04:40:56 pm
Here's the game preview for Bridgewater's first round game against the Bates College Bobcates @ Mount Saint Mary College in Newburgh, NY (a seven hour drive for the Eagles! :o!)

http://www.bridgewater.edu/Sports/news/NCAAtourney.pdf
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on February 28, 2006, 09:20:16 pm
I will get to RMC Friday night to see Silva break ODAC career scoring record. I think the Yellow Jackets will take both games at home this weekend and move to the Sweet 16. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on March 01, 2006, 03:38:29 pm
Here is Pat Coleman's break-down of the tournament brackets....

http://www.d3hoops.com/springfield/06/preview.htm

Pat has Bridgewater picked to be the Cinderella Story coming out of the Atlantic Regional!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on March 03, 2006, 07:09:47 pm
BRIDGEWATER WINS!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bcsportswriter on March 03, 2006, 07:11:51 pm
BC DOWN BY 6 WITH A LITTLE OVER 2 MINUTES TO GO IN OT...BUCKET TO GET WITHIN 4....SHANNON SCALES HITS A 3 WITH 25 SECONDS TO GO TO GET BC WITHIN 1...THEN STEALS AN IN-BOUNDS PASS AND HITS ANOTHER 3 TO PUT BC UP BY 2 WITH 17 SECONDS TO GO...LAST SECOND 3 BY BATES ROLLS OFF THE RIM....BC WINS BY 2
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on March 03, 2006, 09:36:03 pm
Congrats to BC!!!!

RMC wins too 83-57. Silva had a triple double.  22 points, 10 assists and 14 rebounds. 

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 03, 2006, 10:37:15 pm
RMC got off to a slow start and Hood kept even for the first 10 minutes. The last 10 minutes of the half Silva
was magic, scoring and setting assists for the other girls. She just makes everyone look so good.  RMC appered to have an arsenal of weapons and rolled to a 20 point spread before halftime. The Moravian coach was sitting beside me and she was awed. They lost to Greensboro the first game but I could hear her thinking that had they won tonight , they would be going home Sunday anyway. Greensboro has a 6'4" freshman but I think Orton will outmanuver her tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 04, 2006, 09:52:50 am
Congratulations to the Lady Eagles!  Way to pick up an out-of-region playoff win!!!  Keep in going until the Final Four! :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on March 04, 2006, 05:38:09 pm
Any updates on the game?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on March 04, 2006, 06:05:44 pm
Any updates on the game?

 Jeremy,

BC 72
Baruch 49      GAME OVER

BC:
16-18 FT
  8-17 3pt FG (47%)
48% FG
Rebound advantage 41-21

Kinder 21pts , Childs 19pts

GREAT CALL PAT COLEMAN!!!
 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 04, 2006, 08:37:47 pm
Silva scores 25 tonight as RMC advances to Sweet 16. Breaks men's scoring record to become alltime ODAC career scorer. ODAC with 2 teams in final 16 !!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on March 04, 2006, 08:41:01 pm
THANKS!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 04, 2006, 08:45:44 pm
Silva scores 25 tonight as RMC advances to Sweet 16. Breaks men's scoring record to become alltime ODAC career scorer. ODAC with 2 teams in final 16 !!!

GAVA, do you know how lucky that you and the ODAC are to have your teams sent to different brackets?

The ASC had 3 teams selected.  In an ASC re-do times two, Hardin-Simmons had to knock off their 2 arch-rivals in the Texas sub-bracket to get to the Sweet 16. :-\
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on March 04, 2006, 08:58:07 pm
  I guess the idea that the ODAC was a weak conference this year will not be expressed as much and when does BC move into the top 25?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on March 04, 2006, 09:20:03 pm
Way to go BC and RMC!!!  Jeremybozz is right, maybe the ODAC and BC will get a little more respect now.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on March 04, 2006, 09:56:52 pm
  I think BC and RMC playing 3 times versus each other helped both teams in the long run.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 04, 2006, 10:15:26 pm
Definitely a GREAT game tonight in Ashland... I'm pulling for homecourt advantage for the Jackets next weekend so I can make it down to VA again! Congrats to Silva on breaking the men's ODAC record tonight - seriously they need to retire her number after this year!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 05, 2006, 10:42:56 am
Congratualtions to both RMC and BC!  Having two teams in the Sweet Sixteen should give the ODAC some positive press.  Good luck to both!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 05, 2006, 03:14:27 pm
Well I must say I do not understand how the NCAA comes up with where to play???? It cannot be based on record, ranking, or strength of schedule, so it has to be they write each school name on a piece of paper and then whoever brought the 6 pack gets to pick a piece of paper...and PRESTO, that is the school that is hosting!   :-\
RMC has a long journey head ahead of them, but no excuses...right!! They will do great with all of us back here in VA land pullin for them! ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on March 05, 2006, 07:40:25 pm
Congratulations to BC and RMC!!! Two teams from the ODAC in the Sweet 16....that is SWEET!

I just back from New York after watching the Eagles soar to two straight victories over two higher ranking teams. Bates was ranked #24 in the d3hoops.com poll and Baruch was the higher seed then BC even though they had the same record. During the game Baruch was the home team.

Everyone on the BC squad did an outstanding job! Katy Herr controlled both games as the floor general as she recorded 14 assists and just three turnovers in 83 minutes of action over the weekend. Herr also recorded a double-double on Friday night with 11 points and 11 rebounds (she was 1 assist shy of a triple-double). Herr has now recorded over 500 rebounds for her career!

Shannon Scales was definiely the hero Friday night hitting two three-pointers in a span of 10 seconds to give BC the overtime win (if you have not heard about the game you should definitely read about it on d3hoops because it was the most incredible finish I have ever seen! it was an instant classic!)

Marsha Kinder averaged 24.5 points for the weekend while Amy Childs had two solid games, including a 19 point 11 rebound performance on Saturday!

With these two wins the Eagles are now 24-6 on the season, which matches Bridgewater's all-time win total for a single season. The last and only other time the Eagles recorded 24 wins in a season is during the 1997-98 campaign when Coach Willi lead BC to a 24-5 overall record and a trip to the NCAA Sweet 16.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on March 05, 2006, 07:44:00 pm
BC will more then likely fly to Southern Maine, whom they will play Friday. If the Eagles fly then they will probably leave Wednesday. I wonder if a fan bus will make the 12 hour trip???


NCAA Division III Women's Basketball
All-Time Winningest Teams 
Team Yrs. Wins Losses Pct.
 
1. Elizabethtown (Pa.) 72 826 356 .698
 
2. Bridgewater 51 656 327 .665
 
3. Southern Maine 38 627 196 .760

 

As you can see, BC has their work cut out for them...but they can do it! Souther Maine is currently 29-1 and ranked #1 in the d3hoops.com poll. What an upset that would be if the Eagles can continue to make some noise in this tournament!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 06, 2006, 02:26:32 am
Well I must say I do not understand how the NCAA comes up with where to play???? It cannot be based on record, ranking, or strength of schedule, so it has to be they write each school name on a piece of paper and then whoever brought the 6 pack gets to pick a piece of paper...and PRESTO, that is the school that is hosting!   :-\
RMC has a long journey head ahead of them, but no excuses...right!! They will do great with all of us back here in VA land pullin for them! ;D

You got to play at home last year against a similar group of teams. Take turns. Be nice.

Llama: Thanks -- I assume you mean my call of Bridgewater as the Cinderella and not the call of the game, that was handled by Mark Simon and Paul Schreel.

When does BC move into the Top 25? No guarantees they will, but if they do, it will be in the next poll, which is taken after the end of the tournament.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 06, 2006, 08:13:36 am
Well I must say I do not understand how the NCAA comes up with where to play???? It cannot be based on record, ranking, or strength of schedule, so it has to be they write each school name on a piece of paper and then whoever brought the 6 pack gets to pick a piece of paper...and PRESTO, that is the school that is hosting!   :-\
RMC has a long journey head ahead of them, but no excuses...right!! They will do great with all of us back here in VA land pullin for them! ;D

The women rotate sites South Region , West Region ... .  The way that women think, "be nice and share", it is perfectly logical for them to decide to do it that way.

Next year, the South Region will be paired with the Great Lakes.

After seeing the great injustice done to Miss Coll on the men's side in the name of travel and geographic proximity, I can see the merit in rotating the sites.

Miss College is 29-1, 4th highest QOWI, #1 seed in the bracket, and is being made to fly for the sectionals because it saves the NCAA a net 2 plane flights.

Please go the Men's Multi-region Board and vote on the greater injustice.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on March 06, 2006, 08:44:37 am
R-M gets to play in Tacoma, Washington!!!!  At least they get to fly.  At Pacific Lutheran College.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on March 06, 2006, 10:53:08 am
Congrats to BC and RMC.  Let's hope both can advance to the Final Four!!  This speaks volumes for the ODAC.  Keep going girls.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on March 06, 2006, 10:53:58 am
Congrats to Bridgewater and Randolph-Macon!!!

I hope the Eagles take a "we belong" attitude into the Southern Maine game.  If they feel overwhelmed by the number one ranking and home court advantage, it won't be much of a game.  I'm confident our girls can do it!

Bridgewater will play Southern Maine at 7:30 p.m. on Friday, while Mary Washington will play Bowdoin at 5:30 p.m.

In their sectional, the Eagles have three of the top eight teams in the country [No. 1, 5, 8], with a combined record of 86-4.  Wow!

I wonder if a fan bus will make the 12 hour trip???

We (Bridgewater) are currently looking into that.  I'll post something as soon as we know.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 06, 2006, 10:55:13 am
Definitely a GREAT game tonight in Ashland... I'm pulling for homecourt advantage for the Jackets next weekend so I can make it down to VA again! Congrats to Silva on breaking the men's ODAC record tonight - seriously they need to retire her number after this year!!!

You are right.  #11 should be retired. Holding ODAC career records for points, assists and steals for both women and men it is obvious she is the best ball player to ever come through ODAC. ODAC and D3 have been very lucky to have had such a talent the past 4 years. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on March 06, 2006, 10:56:16 am
Hoping to see 2 teams from Virginia meet again Saturday night in Maine!  :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on March 06, 2006, 01:14:55 pm


Llama: Thanks -- I assume you mean my call of Bridgewater as the Cinderella


You got it Pat! I have to listen to my hometown boy Coach Bill.

And by the way, Cindarella is your call if I remember correctly:
D3Football  = Wesley
D3Women's Hoops = Bridgewater

Are you going to Vegas anytime soon?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 06, 2006, 02:26:10 pm
Good luck to R-MC and BC this weekend in the Sweet Sixteen!!! Save travels to all  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on March 06, 2006, 02:41:17 pm
Anyone know times for games yet at Pac-Lutheran?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on March 06, 2006, 03:13:24 pm
Anyone know times for games yet at Pac-Lutheran?

9:00 pm eastern time on Friday, and 10:00 eastern on Saturday.  Posted on the R-M women's b-ball site.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on March 06, 2006, 03:34:38 pm
An email just sent out to faculty and staff at Bridgewater:

"The following information is available for the Sweet 16 round of the NCAA Women's Basketball Tournament.  The Eagles will travel to Southern Maine University in Gorham, ME to play Southern Maine University on Friday evening.  Game time will be 7:30 p.m.  The winner of that game will advance to the next round game on Saturday at 7:00 p.m. against the winner of the Bowdoin College and the University of Mary Washington game.

A bus will be departing from Nininger Hall Thursday evening March 9th for a 3-day or 4-day trip leaving at 5:00p.m., bus loading at 4:30p.m.  The bus will be returning Saturday evening, March 11th or Sunday March 12th depending on the outcome of Friday's contest.  There is limited seating available; seating will be offered to parents only until Noon Tuesday.  After that seats will be available for fans also on a first come first served basis.  The cost of seats will be $150.00 each; $75.00 for students.  Bus reservations may be made by calling Phyllis Lambert at 515-3799 who will also be able to provide lodging information after completion of seating arrangements.

Tickets for the game will be not be on sale at the site but may be purchased from Phyllis Lambert in the Athletic Office at the price of $7.00 for adults, $5.00 for senior citizens and students."
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: yj424 on March 07, 2006, 05:28:21 pm
Will there be any broadcasting of the R-MC vs UW- Stout game Friday?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: foul_language on March 07, 2006, 10:24:41 pm
Check athletics site at www.uwstout.edu. It says something about Moose radio or something. I believe there's a link, so perhaps it will be streamed on the web. We in Wisconsin are hoping so.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
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Quote from: hoopstermom on March 01, 2006, 09:52:37 pm
I suspect, though, that Randolph-Macon will be an even greater challenge this year than last.  They're big, they'll probably get to play at home again (a true yellow-jacket nest), and they have one of the best point guards in D3 (Megan Silva).  One of my big regrets this year is not seeing the Bruins get another shot at them.  We had them on the ropes last year but let the crowd get back in the game which took us out of it.  If PLU or UPS can knock them off it won't hurt my feelings.


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RMC won't host sectionals this year. I thought I saw Pat say it rotates to the West this year, so the "hive" won't be a factor for a NWC/Texas team if RMC gets that far.  It will be a tough test for RMC for sure.  I was at the games Trinity/Fox vs RMC games last year and they were very tough for the Jackets even on their home court.  George Fox was a classy team (so were the fans), not to mention VERY tough. Sounds like PLU and UPS are in that same category.   If RMC gets knocked out, I will be rooting for PLU or UPS all the way.  Good luck.


How could you ??  I thought you were an ODAC fan??
And there you are on the ODAC board rooting for RMC.
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Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on March 08, 2006, 02:36:39 pm
Go Jackets.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on March 08, 2006, 09:31:08 pm
Gava - I AM an RMC fan and an ODAC fan and a women's basketball fan.  I appreciate a good game and a good team and don't have problems stating so.   

I'm making the trip to Tacoma to root for the Yellow Jackets (on my on time and nickel)....ARE YOU!!!

As much as I would have liked to seen RMC host the sectionals, it seemed clear from multiple posts from many with more knowledge of the sectional selection process than I that it was not a likely possibilty.  Any team playing on someone else's home court, 3000 miles away from their own home will be more challenged than if they are playing on their home court.  I was only stating the obvious.

I was impressed with George Fox when they played at Macon last year and it was a tough game for Macon even with their home crowd.  Every game is tough at this level.

I'm not a betting person really, I just like to root for teams I like and that definitely is RMC and any other ODAC team and maybe even PLU except if they are playing RMC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 08, 2006, 09:44:44 pm
Gava - I AM an RMC fan and an ODAC fan and a women's basketball fan.  I appreciate a good game and a good team and don't have problems stating so.   

I'm making the trip to Tacoma to root for the Yellow Jackets (on my on time and nickel)....ARE YOU!!!

No, made the Regionals but you apparently have more nickels than me. ;D  Talked to Seattle today. Pack your raincoat, sunlamp and Prozac. Lot of highly contagious SAD going around out there. Hopefully RMC will keep you smiling.   :D
Didn't realize the first half of your post was Swiss's.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on March 08, 2006, 09:58:59 pm
Lucked out with nice tax refund to afford the trip plus a supportive spouse.

FYI - I posted a response on NW board too. Seems someone thought you were too hard on me.  Hey it goes with the territory.  I figure you don't post unless you expect someone to respond. 

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: arforbes on March 09, 2006, 02:10:24 am
Hoopstermom, thanks for the feedback.  I recognized that were totally able to defend yourself, but I couldn't help correcting GAVA's assignment of Swiss's post to you creating the delusion that you were a fickle fan.  I am with you in loving good basketball, men or women.  When RMC knocked out my GFU Bruins last year, they were my sentimental favorite in the final 4, just as PLU may be your's this year.  I hope that is not just wishful thinking, as I remember how good your point guard was and apparently still is.  Oh, and you guys don't have bad heigth  either.  PLU will have to rely on speed and protecting the rock. Good luck until Saturday night, assuming PLU can keep it together on Friday.  Otherwise, I'll just have to root for RMC all weekend!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on March 09, 2006, 10:52:59 am
Sorry this is totally off topic, but I started a group for the ESPN.com Tournament Challenge.  It's called "Division III Fanatics."  Feel free to join in!

To sign up, go here:
http://games.espn.go.com/tcmen/frontpage

To join the "Division III Fanatics" group, go here:
http://games.espn.go.com/tcmen/group?groupID=14767&password=d3fanatics
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2006, 08:01:26 pm
D3hoopsNet, under contract from NCAAsports.com, will be broadcasting the entire Southern Maine sectional. Coverage starts a half-hour before tipoff and includes a preview of all four sectionals, plus in-game "live look-ins" at other sectionals in progress.

Mark Simon on the call.

http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: gcalum on March 09, 2006, 10:50:53 pm
Congrats to Silva on being the Jostens Award winner... 


Good luck to both teams this weekend!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on March 10, 2006, 12:07:15 pm
I will not  have access to a radio tonight. Can someone keep me updated on the BC game?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on March 10, 2006, 01:04:27 pm
I will not  have access to a radio tonight. Can someone keep me updated on the BC game?

Jeremy,

Check my BridgewaterFootball.com blog for a link to a chatroom I set up for BC fans to get live scoring updates (scroll the bottom);

http://bridgewaterfootball.blogspot.com/2006/03/lady-eagles-reach-ncaa-sweet-16.html

Also, I'll be posting live scores from all the men's and women's games on D3hoops.com's scoreboard;

Men's Scoreboard (http://www.d3hoops.com/schedule.php?date=2006-03-10&team=m) | Women's Scoreboard (http://www.d3hoops.com/schedule.php?date=2006-03-10&team=w)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 10, 2006, 01:44:48 pm
Hoopstermom...I am so jealous that you get to go to Tacoma!! I amusingly looked at airline tickets and I thought rent or go see RMC? I would have chosen the later, but my parents had a different idea!

Anyway this is my most favorite time of the year. It begins with ODAC Tourney, than D3 Tourney along with ACC and SEC tourney ( I am a Kentucky and Maryland fan), then D3 Championship with D1 Tourney, and ending finally with D1 Championship. I wish I could be like Elvis and have 10 TV's in my living room with different games playing.

FYI: You can listen to all the games in Washington at the 3 other school's respective websites. I know rmc.edu has the links posted under the women's basketball page on the athletics page!

Sidenote: I saw a former BC women's basketball player in the local grocery store last Sunday night and I thought it was so cool that we walked by each other and said "Hey Congratulations, Good Luck in Washington!" and "You too, Congratulations, Good Luck in Maine!" Even though we both are "old heads" and don't play anymore this is the closest we can get to playing again (besides the occasional pick-up game at the gym)! We like to say that we "layed the foundation" for these championship teams...HAHA, I know!!! TOO FUNNY!! ;D

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST: CONGRATULATIONS (for the 3,000th time this year :o) to Megan Silva for winning the ultimate individual award in D3 basketball, the Jostens Award! The funny thing is a lot of players would love to have half of all her accolades, but all she wants is that National Championship Trophy! Gosh I hope she gets it along with the other Yellow Jackets!

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 10, 2006, 04:26:32 pm
Yes, congratulations to Megan Silva for the Jostens Award!!! And good luck to the Jackets tonight!  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 10, 2006, 04:29:17 pm
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST: CONGRATULATIONS (for the 3,000th time this year :o) to Megan Silva for winning the ultimate individual award in D3 basketball, the Jostens Award!



I am floored !!! I mean I knew oldschool marlin said Silva was just as good as several of the VWC players, but...... ;D
Just kidding, but fans that are both rabid and obtuse amuse me. :)

Congrats Silva, you earned it !!!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on March 10, 2006, 07:59:50 pm
Any BC updates?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on March 10, 2006, 08:15:25 pm
Any BC updates?

BC was down 14 with 4 min. to play in the 1st half. Score is being updated on the D3Hoops scoreboard periodically.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on March 10, 2006, 08:20:52 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on March 10, 2006, 09:33:40 pm
S. Maine 68, BC 55 FINAL
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on March 10, 2006, 09:45:24 pm
S. Maine 68, BC 55 FINAL

Excellent showing by the Eagles. Way to represent the ODAC!

S. Maine lost only 1 game 71-61 at Salem State and BC played the 3rd closest game of the year against S. Maine. ;)

If that doesn't rate Final Poll Top 25 consideration I don't know what does ???

Bowdoin lost 64-55 (9pts) at S. Maine 11/29/2005
Eastern Connecticut lost  74-63 (11pts) at home
BC lost by 13 tonight.

And on a side note, Mass-Dartmouth lost 92-29 to S. Maine after S Maine had just beaten Keene St 88-29 three nights before. OUCH! :o

Great year Eagles!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: yj424 on March 10, 2006, 09:46:38 pm
That great HS Basketball station in Wisconsin just gave a halftime score. 44-20 in favor of Randolph-Macon.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: The Champ on March 10, 2006, 09:55:11 pm
Well, the live internet feed is now broadcasting the game that we all wanted to here from the start.

I've already emailed the stations GM that there were people all over the country that were trying to listen to this D3 Sectional Tournament game.

You guys have missed what would have been a great half of BB for a RMC fan.

I'm hoping for a change of fortune in the second half myself, but I'm sure you can appreciate my feelings.

Here's to a cleanly played second half and may the best team win.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 10, 2006, 09:57:44 pm
My SU boys already got the last second win against Georgetown... here's to another win for me to celebrate tonight... Let's Go Jackets!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 10, 2006, 10:51:31 pm
R-MC with the win, 80-71  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: The Champ on March 10, 2006, 10:55:02 pm
Congrats and best wishes in the rest of the tourney!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 10, 2006, 11:32:39 pm
CONGRATULATIONS RMC!!! Let's go Jackets (Whoo Ahhh) Let's Go Jackets (Whoo Ahhh) Ohhhhhhh when the Jackets go marching in, oh when the jackets go marching in...oh how I want to be in that number, OH WHEN THE JACKETS GO MARCHING IN!  ;) Some of you  (rmcalum30) know what it's all about!


p.s. GAVA, maybe you need to take a few days off the D3 hoops posting up! I was totally being sarcastic (which I think everyone but you seemed to know) when I said I was congratulating Silva for the 3000th time! First, it's not hard to tell that I am a former player at RMC, second she is my friend! I saw what you did to Hoopstermom on here and I chalked it up to a bad day for you.
This is a positive board, but it seems that every semi-positive thing you say you counter it with 5 negative things! I know you are the big dog on here with all your posts, and I completely respect that, but most of us are just looking to have a good time and talk about basketball...not cause conflict! Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on March 10, 2006, 11:39:23 pm
CONGRATULATIONS RMC!!! Let's go Jackets (Whoo Ahhh) Let's Go Jackets (Whoo Ahhh) Ohhhhhhh when the Jackets go marching in, oh when the jackets go marching in...oh how I want to be in that number, OH WHEN THE JACKETS GO MARCHING IN!  ;) Some of you  (rmcalum30) know what it's all about!


p.s. GAVA, maybe you need to take a few days off the D3 hoops posting up! I was totally being sarcastic (which I think everyone but you seemed to know) when I said I was congratulating Silva for the 3000th time! First, it's not hard to tell that I am a former player at RMC, second she is my friend! I saw what you did to Hoopstermom on here and I chalked it up to a bad day for you.
This is a positive board, but it seems that every semi-positive thing you say you counter it with 5 negative things! I know you are the big dog on here with all your posts, and I completely respect that, but most of us are just looking to have a good time and talk about basketball...not cause conflict! Thanks! :)

Seriously!  Silva is an awesome player and deserves everything she has gotten - she has made the ODAC an incredible league, even more than it was before.  But GAVA is just some kind of irate fan that is consistently downplaying others respect for a great player and a great team.  At this point in the game, we're all cheering the ODAC, no matter what.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 10, 2006, 11:53:00 pm

p.s. GAVA I was totally being sarcastic (which I think everyone but you seemed to know) when I said I was congratulating Silva for the 3000th time!

My comment wasn't in regards to your remark about congratulating Silva, it was in reference to oldschool comparing Silva to VWC players.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on March 10, 2006, 11:54:09 pm
My SU boys already got the last second win against Georgetown... here's to another win for me to celebrate tonight... Let's Go Jackets!!!!  ;D

RMCAlum30--did you go to the Cuse??  I was there 2001-2002 for grad school and they are really pulling off some great wins!  Go Orange!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on March 10, 2006, 11:55:27 pm

p.s. GAVA I was totally being sarcastic (which I think everyone but you seemed to know) when I said I was congratulating Silva for the 3000th time!

My comment wasn't in regards to your remark about congratulating Silva, it was in reference to oldschool comparing Silva to VWC players.

Can't remember ever doing that...sorry.  Fact is, as scrappy as VWC is, no one can touch Silva or has ever been able to.  Sorry you got your facts wrong.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on March 11, 2006, 12:01:15 am
What a season for the Eagles!!!

I was able to make it to the game tonight in Southern Maine, and it just seemed like BC dug themselves a hole in that first half that was too big to get out of. The score was SMU 17 BC 14, but then the Huskies went on a 17-2 run to close the half. BC won the second half by 7 and proved they can definitely play with the best in the nation.

The Eagles will greatly miss Marsha Kinder, who set a BC record this year for most points in a season (538, previous record was 495). What a great contribution Marsha has made to this team! We will miss you!

However, Bridgewater has alot to build on for next year! BC is returning their leader in steals, assists, and rebounds in Katy Herr! Bridgewater will also be returning three other starters in Childs, Scales, and Henderson. If the Eagles work hard over the off season, then BC fans will have a lot to be excited about next year!!!

GREAT SEASON LADIES!!! CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT YEAR!


Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 12:02:35 am
  But GAVA is just some kind of irate fan

During the season you would only admit to Silva as being one of among many of the better players in the league. I told you then that was half-hearted props. How could you compare her to VWC players ? VWC fans ran their mouths all year about having the best players, winning the conference, knocking off RMC in the ODAC tournament. That is what I mean by rabid and obtuse, just foolish nonsense.
  I am not irate. I am thrilled !!!! ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on March 11, 2006, 12:03:47 am
Llamaguy, I agree with you. This should definitely make BC a consideration for a spot in the top 25 for the end of season poll. I mean, they were one of only 16 teams left playing in the country.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 12:05:47 am
Llamaguy, I agree with you. This should definitely make BC a consideration for a spot in the top 25 for the end of season poll. I mean, they were one of only 16 teams left playing in the country.

Yes, it would be hard to justify denying the Eagles a Top 25 spot in the year end poll. Great season.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 12:43:01 am
  She can't help what position she is put in by her coaches as far as playing time.   I also think there are a lot of other great players this year who are somewhat overlooked

See I don't hear the love, don't hear you saying Silva is ODAC's all time best player. What I hear is you taking a bash at Coach
LaHaye, and suggesting that Silva's fortune is the result of too much playing time.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 11, 2006, 03:54:57 am
Llamaguy, I agree with you. This should definitely make BC a consideration for a spot in the top 25 for the end of season poll. I mean, they were one of only 16 teams left playing in the country.

This is true. Just keep in mind that the final 16 is not automatically the same as the top 16. There may well have been teams eliminated in the first and second rounds because of the way the brackets were set up that were nonetheless better than a Sweet 16 team (I'm thinking of the three Texas teams and the Washington team that were eliminated early to satisfy the NCAA's penny-pinching.)

Not that Bridgewater won't get into the Top 25 (who knows?) but remember Division III isn't Division I bracketwise.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on March 11, 2006, 07:48:12 am
  She can't help what position she is put in by her coaches as far as playing time.   I also think there are a lot of other great players this year who are somewhat overlooked

See I don't hear the love, don't hear you saying Silva is ODAC's all time best player. What I hear is you taking a bash at Coach
LaHaye, and suggesting that Silva's fortune is the result of too much playing time.

No, I was defending her as a player and hoping people would not "Silva hate" because when she did play a lot, she did score a lot.  She is just that good.  However, thank you for proving my point about you over and over again.  Last year I was making "GO JACKETS" signs with Susan Dunagan and Karen Harvey before the championship game at the beach - not that it matters to you, or that I care.  Good luck on the final stretch, nontheless...though you'll never agree, we're all very proud of how R-MC is representing our league.   ;D

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 08:18:19 am
Quote from: Old School Marlin   Good luck on the final stretch, nontheless...though you'll never agree, we're all very proud of how R-MC is representing our league.   ;D


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Yes, good luck to RMC.  :)
You never know, we could work out a cease fire and you can still be a VWC fan. Just never at the expense of the RMC girls. :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 08:27:39 am
Stout pulled to within four points, 73-69, with two free throws by Duoss with 51 seconds left to play. Stout was forced to foul and the Yellow Jackets responded by making 7-of-8 free throws to take the prize.

The night belonged to Randoph-Macon and Silva, who led all scorers with 28 points, hitting 11-of-21 shots from the floor, with two 3-pointers and four free throws. Michelle Orton scored 11 points.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 09:26:34 am




NEW REQUEST FOR GAVA: Stop copying and pasting everyone's quotes from months ago and critiquing them.  Most of us on here are simply fans and usually bias fans! Who cares what they said in December? I respect Old School Marlin for keeping loyal to her team and now supporting the ODAC in the NCAA tourney! We have a bond in the ODAC, that I think we are lucky and privileged to have...don't be jealous!!  ;D But seriously do you know anything about Hardin-Simmons this year? I read all their stats, but wondering if you had any insight ( I still think you know a lot about basketball!)? I know that H-S brings up some bad memories for some of us! :P


Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 11:55:54 am
Quote from: Old School Marlin

 hoping people would not "Silva hate" because when she did play a lot

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Megan Silva is always a good sport. She is a little wisp of a girl who makes magic on the court and is a joy to watch. My greatest hope for her is that in spite of her size the WNBA would give her a look.
People who hate her because she is better, offend me. They are petty and small of heart.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 12:02:01 pm

 do you know anything about Hardin-Simmons this year?


I am glad RMC has unranked HSU tonight instead of # 16 PLU.
They are a small team with only one 6 footer but Bentley did score 20 last night. They are well balanced but no stars. No one averages more than 12 ppg. If Orton dominates at post and  RMC brings their A game I see Final 4. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Rico 21 on March 11, 2006, 12:09:04 pm
Congrats to R-M on their win over our Lady Bluedevils.  I'll be pulling for you to win it all!

We have our share of top-notch players, but listening to the game last night made me realize you have one AMAZING player in Megan Silva...  I really wish I could have had the opportunity to see her play.   

Enjoy the ride, Jackets!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 11, 2006, 05:07:43 pm
So excited for R-MC's matchup against Hardin-Simmons tonight... hopefully we can avenge the loss to them back during the 2002-2003 season when they knocked us out of the tourney in the 2nd round! I'm sure the ladies will have no trouble tonight  ;D

Old School Marlin - I'm actually here at the 'Cuse for grad school THIS year... in the broadcast journalism program at Newhouse. The past few days we have been going absolutely nuts... finally something to cheer about  :o Thank goodness the R-MC game doesn't start until 10... that gives me time to watch the Big East championship game! :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 11, 2006, 07:01:28 pm
Let's go Jackets (Whoo Ahhh) Let's Go Jackets (Whoo Ahhh) Ohhhhhhh when the Jackets go marching in, oh when the jackets go marching in...oh how I want to be in that number, OH WHEN THE JACKETS GO MARCHING IN!  ;) Some of you  (rmcalum30) know what it's all about!

Hahaha... I DEFINITELY know what it's all about... and I can guarantee the ladies will be loud and proud tonight when they do their pregame tradition!!!!  ;D ;D ;D LET'S GO JACKETS!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on March 11, 2006, 10:00:40 pm
This H-S coverage is crackin' me up.  Go Jackets!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on March 11, 2006, 10:03:12 pm
Easy girls.  Two fouls immediately.  Make 'em play your game.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 10:14:42 pm
Jacketlawyer: They just called Silva ordinary looking! Crap, Orton just got 2 fouls in the first 3 minutes!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 10:19:21 pm
Jacketlawyer: This is hilarious! Every call the refs make for RMC the sommentators say "oh it looked to me that a yellow jacket bumped her and thats why she traveled" etc...
But RMC already has 6 fouls against them and HS has 2 midway through the first half
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 10:21:18 pm
Please post scores.  The HSU server is full!

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 10:25:25 pm
21-14 Hardin Simmons about 8 minutes left on the clock
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:27:54 pm
RMC down 10...shooting 25%. Not playing well at all.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 10:28:54 pm
Thanking you in advance for your diligent service to the Women's basketball fans of the South Region,

+1 Karma, onesealteam and GAVA! ;)  
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 10:29:21 pm
Orton and Morgan have 2 fouls.
24-16 HS
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:29:56 pm
Orton not playing ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:31:37 pm
Silva has 13...at least she is playing well.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:34:14 pm
HSU 29  RMC 20....3:25 til half....RMC be badly out rebounded. Where is Orton ??
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 10:34:43 pm
GAVA:  Orton has 2 fouls...thats Lahaye's MO..2 fouls=out of the game in the first half! Morgan same thing.

29-20 HS..RMC went on a roll with 4 unanswered points but HS just hit a 3
3:25 left to go.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 10:38:04 pm
34-20 HS...3s are killing us.
2 mins left to go
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:38:46 pm
HSU up 14...ugly. No boards, no baskets, no Orton.???
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 10:42:38 pm
HSU is on a roll.  With the brutal schedule and "battle-hardening" that has become the ASC-West, those Cowgirls are confident that they can beat anyone now!

We will see how RMC responds, and I know that Megan Silva is an incredible player, but the ASC-West, with McMurry and Howard Payne sitting home, has been very competitive this year! :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:43:45 pm
Half...36-26. Don't know why Orton hasn't played past 15 minutes??? Injuried ??

Silva did great per usual but thats about it. No rebounds, poor shooting.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 10:46:42 pm
Gava, did you read what I wrote...Ortie has 2 fouls, Lahaye doesn't play people with 2 fouls.

Halftime 36-26 HS

My thoughts:
Silva has 13pts.

Largest lead was 16 for HS.

Freshman Hiltunin and Reisbeck are getting a lot of minutes...playing great! Clutch defensive plays and shots in the last minute to cut the lead to 10.

3's are killing us...that is partly because Morgan has been out for half of the first half...she is the defensive leader on that team!

RMC switched to zone for about 3 minutes...thats when HS scored 3 3's.

The girl that Silva is guarding is posting her up...trying to use her height advantage on her and get her in foul trouble...not working!!

Shaffer, Morgan, Orton have 2 fouls.

THEY WILL GET IT GOING IN THE SECOND HALF! ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 10:51:24 pm
GAVA:  Orton has 2 fouls...thats Lahaye's MO..2 fouls=out of the game in the first half! Morgan same thing.



GAVA: I don' think they are getting out rebounded...they just can't hit the broad side of a barn according to the commentators. I think they are doing pretty good on the boards, getting 3 sometimes more chances on the offensive end...ESPECIALLY without Orton in the game.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:52:34 pm
Oneseal I have lost connection with server. Please take over posting. Thanks !!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:54:41 pm
Yes, rebounding improved somewhat. HSU 21 boards, RMC 19.
Darn server >:(
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 10:56:00 pm
This is a lot of pressure! 8)

I should at least be Varsity now!!
I'm on it...hopefully I can keep my connection!
Still halftime
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:57:44 pm
RMC shot 30% first half.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 10:58:38 pm
This is a lot of pressure! 8)

I should at least be Varsity now!!
I'm on it...hopefully I can keep my connection!
Still halftime


Got faith in you girl. You can do it. ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 11:00:49 pm
Oneseal I have lost connection with server. Please take over posting. Thanks !!

I think that an HSU trustee or the President of the Baptist General Convention of Texas may have intervened on the server.

Those "hardened-sinners" are pretty powerful people! :D ;D

Also, dballa, a Howard Payne Yellow jacket alum, is posting on the ASC board.  dballa is a veteran poster, so I know he will do a good job! :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:01:17 pm
36-32, Orton has had 6 unanswered points...HS hasn't scored over..can't score over Orton. 18 minutes left.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:03:40 pm
Ralphie, I am going to do a fantastic job!  :P

Orton had 8 of the first 10 points in the 2nd half.
HS scored and was fouled..extended the lead
41-36 16:30 left to play.

RMC is def. pounding it into Orton every time.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:07:21 pm
HOLY BATMAN!

ORTIE IS SUPERHERO!
41-42 RMC!!!! ALL ORTIE....HS HASN"T scored in over almost 2 minutes.
about 15 and some change to go!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 11:10:39 pm
HSU's Sonya West was at crosstown rival McMUrry from 2002-2004.  She was All-ASCWest for 2 years left McMurry and then showed up at HSU this year.  Sonya is the person who should be handling Orton!

For you RMC fans to understand McMurry/ Hardin-Simmons and Howard Payne/ HSU,  imagine RMC men and Hampden-Sydney men times 5. ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:14:18 pm
Both teams can't score to save their lives...Silva just scored and was fouled...but that was about 5 trips up and down the court was either team not scoring. Silva didn't make her free throw..both teams look tired.

HS 44-42
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 11:14:40 pm
HSU's Rachel Cisneroz came off the bench after HSU lost their starting point guard Sarah Hawk, in the Sul Ross Game on February 9th.

That led to losses in 3 of the next 4 games.  From that, HSU regrouped and re-established their chemistry.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:17:25 pm
Orton just picked up her 3rd foul...PLEASE LAHAYE DON'T TAKE HER OUT!!!
10 minutes to go.

These commentators suck...if they say one more mean thing about Orton I am gonna....well I don't know, but they suck!

48-44
Mourassamo (sp?) just picked up her 3rd. HS is in the bonus. Timeout RMC
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:21:12 pm
Orton and Mourassma just picked up their 4th foul, both are out of game.

50-45 HS
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:22:39 pm
6:52 to go

orton and mo are out still

54-47 HS
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: rip08 on March 11, 2006, 11:24:13 pm
It's Morusma....
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:24:33 pm
time out RMC
6:20 left to go.
54-47 HS

RMC is not hitting their shots and not getting any second attempts.
HS is playing great defense (just blocked Silv and got a charge called against Ortie) and are getting the boards and hitting their 2nd shots.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:26:02 pm
rip sorry I am trying to type as fast I hear it!

Orton is back in the game
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 11:28:00 pm
It's Morusma....

Good job onesealteam, we only need the shorthand details.

All typos in the heat of the game are forgiven if they can be understood to be generally accurate! :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:28:38 pm
3:45 left to go.
HS leads by 12
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 11:29:30 pm
rip sorry I am trying to type as fast I hear it!

Orton is back in the game

It is kind of an adrenaline rush as you type your beloved team's prospects and results in the heat of the game! ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:30:42 pm
Silva just scored
67-55. HS
RMC is in full court press
2:20 left
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: rip08 on March 11, 2006, 11:31:26 pm
2:00 to go..RMC down by 12..not lookin good for RMC
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:32:44 pm
1:40 to go
11 point lead to HS
Silva is 7 for 20.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: rip08 on March 11, 2006, 11:33:27 pm
1:18..Tech just called on Lahaye..ouch that hurts!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:35:08 pm
Coach Lahaye just got a technical. HS hit 1-2.

Timeout Macon 1:20 left
HS up by 12

somebody better buy me a drink
or maybe a new computer after I throw mine out the window
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: rip08 on March 11, 2006, 11:37:15 pm
damn...Hoped the Jackets were gonna do it this year.  Fine career for Silva...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: rip08 on March 11, 2006, 11:37:42 pm
48 seconds left...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:38:35 pm
17 seconds HS up by 14 >:(
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:40:15 pm
FINAL: HS 72 RMC 56.
Further comments at a later date.  :-[
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 11, 2006, 11:48:46 pm
Thanks Oneseal. Probably harder on you than it was for me to just sit and read.

Like I said this afternoon this was our game as long as Orton posted up and RMC played their A game. Neither happened. Orton was on the bench half the night, and the Yellow Jackets didn't play well.

All things end.

Great season ladies. :)

Megan Silva, what can we say?? Thanks for the ride. It has been a great 4 years. We won't see someone like you in the ODAC for another decade at least. You are the best. !! ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:52:53 pm
GAME STATS:

Shooting Percentage from the Field:
RMC 32%
HS 35.6%

3-Pointers
1-10 RMC
8-17 HS

Free Throws
9-13 RMC
22-28 HS

Silva 19pts
Orton 12 pts, 11 rebs...all in the 2nd half
Shaffer 6 pts
Thompson 4 pts
Morgan 2 pts
Hiltunen 2 pts

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: onesealteam on March 11, 2006, 11:53:20 pm
oh yeah and HS out rebounded RMC 47-45
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 11, 2006, 11:57:30 pm
Thanks, onesealteam!

The South Region goes back to the Final Four.

A good performance by the Cowgirls will push the reputation that is building in the South Region...2003 Trinity -- Champion, 2005 RMC --finalist, 2006 HSU -- ?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 12, 2006, 12:00:32 am
Final Four Poll on the Women's Multi-region message board!

Vote early!  Vote often!  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on March 12, 2006, 12:15:11 am
Great season to RMC!

Silva, I know you will be greatly missed by RMC, but you WILL NOT be missed by any of the other ODAC schools, and I mean that as a compliment.

One ODAC team in the Elite 8, and two in the Sweet 16...what a great year for the ODAC!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 12, 2006, 01:14:16 am
I am so proud of my Yellow Jackets right now... I have no words for how amazing this team is and all the ladies that are on it. This season has been so great to watch them grow - I definitely miss being out on that court with ALL OF THEM, and they played their hearts out to the very last second. Great job to all of the seniors - I know what you're going through right now!!! To all the returners for next year... work hard and you'll go even farther! Congrats to the Yellow Jackets on a FANTASTIC season... love you girls!  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 12, 2006, 11:10:11 am
FINAL: HS 72 RMC 56.
Further comments at a later date.  :-[

RMC was just off. 32% from floor last night vs. our 47% avg. HSU only shot 35%, should have blown them away.
10% on 3's vs our 33% avg.
Orton sitting on bench for 20 minutes to stay out of foul trouble was huge. We coach by formula to increase the odds of winning. This works out well most the time. Sometimes in tournaments though more risk needs to be taken. With Orton out it just wasn't happening.

Bad night, great season.

Thanks RMC !!  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on March 12, 2006, 11:54:20 am
Thanks for the ride, Ms. Silva!!

I am sorry we could not go further in the NCAAs this year, but what cause have I to complain?  The last four years have been great!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 12, 2006, 01:21:00 pm
GAVA noted the attendance at the RMC-HSU game.

The game was at a neutral site.  I investigated the attendance figures for both RMC and HSU.  Here is my response to GAVA.



quote author=GAVA link=topic=1526.msg506897#msg506897 date=1142182247]

Attendance was 147 ??? >:(
Guess not much draw in Washington for a Texas-Virginia game.
Couldn't sectional inclusion criteria be improved?

We draw more at our girls' middle school games.  ;D


The "neutral court" aspect does give a "level playing field".  I don't mind the paltry attendance figures.  RMC would not have wanted to face Stout or HSU in their own gyms.

Women's Basketball in West Texas is serious business.  Coach Bobby Knight's Texas Tech Red Raider Basketball men average 6700 fans per game; Coach Marsha Sharp's Lady Raiders average 12,000 fans per game.

On the  RMC (http://www.rmc.edu/athletics/basketball/womens/BBstats/2006/teamcume.htm) web site, I see that the Jackets played to one regular season crowd of 1000.

Life in the ASC-West is much different.  Hardin-Simmons, McMurry and Howard Payne play before thousands of fans several times in the season.  HSU played before thousands of fans 4 times in the regular season, and then the playoff crowds are noted.  (The HPU board sites the attendance at the HSU-HPU game in Brownwood as 1371.)

http://hsuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/w-baskbl/stats/2005-2006/teamcume.html

You can say that D3 attendance estimates are bogus.  Pat Coleman saw the January 2005 McMurry-HSU game.   Here is the photo gallery that shows 2000 screaming fans at a McMurry-HSU game.

http://www.d3hoops.com/gallery.php?gallery=36835

West Texas is truly one of the hotbeds of Women's Basketball.

RMC is probably fortunate that they caught HSU in Tacoma!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 13, 2006, 08:32:20 am
Congratulations to Randolph-Macon and Bridgewater for fine seasons.  It's nice to see the ODAC have two teams - and four total wins -in the tournament!  This sort of success helps the ODAC in so many ways.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 13, 2006, 09:48:43 am
West Texas is truly one of the hotbeds of Women's Basketball.

RMC is probably fortunate that they caught HSU in Tacoma!
I agree.  After winning NCAA 1st round games at home in both 2001 and 2002, Guilford had to travel to Texas to play HSU in the 2nd round.  The first year, the Quakers lost by a good-sized margin, but the 2nd year the Quakers led by 7 with a little over a minute to go and then lost by 1 when they were outscored 8-0 to close the game.  The folks I talked to said the size and noise of the crowds were definitely a factor each year.  I think I'd rather play them on a neutral court as well.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan02 on March 14, 2006, 01:04:54 am
Good luck to the VWC MEN!!!  Great season for BC and RMC...represented the ODAC well.  Much more respect should come next year and BC proved to be a top 25 team.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 15, 2006, 07:22:31 pm
Congratulations to the following ODAC/USASAC All-South Region selections!

First Team

Pos. Name School Yr. Hometown
G Megan Silva Randolph-Macon Sr. Glen Allen, Va.
G Staci Humphrey Greensboro Jr. Pilot, Va.
F Erin Hanson Roanoke So. Blacksburg, Va.

Second team

Pos. Name School Yr. Hometown
G Jennifer King Guilford Sr. Reidsville, N.C.
G Marsha Kinder Bridgewater (Va.) Sr. Bridgewater, Va.
C Amanda Renalds Eastern Mennonite Sr. Bridgewater, Va.

Third team

Pos. Name School Yr. Hometown
F Meghan Stensrud Randolph-Macon Woman's Sr. Fairfax, Va.
F Candace Bryant Christopher Newport Jr. Virginia Beach, Va.
C Michelle Orton Randolph-Macon Sr. Silver Spring, Md.

Player of the Year: Megan Silva, Randolph-Macon
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 15, 2006, 10:51:39 pm
Megan Silva named Virginia female college player of the year by Richmond Times Dispatch. First time award has been given to a player who was not D I. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on March 16, 2006, 10:48:17 am
Thanks GAVA.  Congrats to Megan.  It's the least that you deserve.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on March 20, 2006, 03:51:30 pm
In addition to RTD player of the year, Silva racked up All American honors again, won the Josten's Award and was named as the DIII player of the year.  The reward for the last award named is that she now has an opportunity to play with and against the best DI players including Monique Currie and Misty Williams of Duke, Barbara Turner and Ann Strother from UConn, Shanna Zolman from TN and others in the WBCA All-Star Challenge game on April 1st.

If anyone knows if this will be on TV, please post.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on March 20, 2006, 03:55:11 pm
In addition to RTD player of the year, Silva racked up All American honors again, won the Josten's Award and was named as the DIII player of the year.  The reward for the last award named is that she now has an opportunity to play with and against the best DI players including Monique Currie and Misty Williams of Duke, Barbara Turner and Ann Strother from UConn, Shanna Zolman from TN and others in the WBCA All-Star Challenge game on April 1st.

If anyone knows if this will be on TV, please post.

Well it's a women's basketball all-star game, and it's not the WNBA, so i doubt it would be on TV. Not that it I don't think it should be though.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on March 20, 2006, 04:06:34 pm
In addition to RTD player of the year, Silva racked up All American honors again, won the Josten's Award and was named as the DIII player of the year.  The reward for the last award named is that she now has an opportunity to play with and against the best DI players including Monique Currie and Misty Williams of Duke, Barbara Turner and Ann Strother from UConn, Shanna Zolman from TN and others in the WBCA All-Star Challenge game on April 1st.

If anyone knows if this will be on TV, please post.

I gave the WBCA a call.  They said it won't be televised.

WBCA All-Star Challenge info: http://www.wbca.org/EventsDetail.asp?CalendarId=331

Unfortunately, most of the players listed won't be participating if their teams make it to the Final Four, seeing the events occur on the same weekend.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 20, 2006, 10:53:46 pm
[quote author=eh ... just call me 'kid' l

Unfortunately, most of the players listed won't be participating if their teams make it to the Final Four, seeing the events occur on the same weekend.
Quote

Players from 15 D I schools listed to play so most will make the WBCA game. Game in Boston where WNBA draft will be held several days later. All D I players on WBCA game roster are in WNBA draft. Current WNBA stars will be in attendace at WBCA game for autographs. Should be good exposure for Silva. The 2005 D II player had a great game last year outplaying most the the D I girls in the WBCA game in Indy. Several days later in NY they were all drafted and she wasn't. Makes you wonder if there is a lockout to anyone but D I players.   :-X
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 21, 2006, 01:45:57 am
HSU's Kendra Anderson was the D3 selectee about 3 years ago.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on March 21, 2006, 05:25:58 pm
Congrats to Bridgewater for finishing the 2005-06 season ranked No. 23 in the D3hoops.com poll!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 22, 2006, 08:20:17 am
Players from 15 D I schools listed to play so most will make the WBCA game. Game in Boston where WNBA draft will be held several days later. All D I players on WBCA game roster are in WNBA draft. Current WNBA stars will be in attendace at WBCA game for autographs. Should be good exposure for Silva. The 2005 D II player had a great game last year outplaying most the the D I girls in the WBCA game in Indy. Several days later in NY they were all drafted and she wasn't. Makes you wonder if there is a lockout to anyone but D I players.   :-X

Thank goodness I'm only 4 1/2 hours from Boston... 99.9% sure I'm making the trip over to watch Silva play... definitely some good exposure for her... maybe we'll get lucky and she'll get drafted!  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on March 22, 2006, 11:13:44 am
At least there is a link to listen in on tonights ODAC-USA South Challenge games being held at Averett in Danville.  Women at 6:00, Men at 8:00.

http://www.averett.edu/statistics/cougarlive.htm
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 23, 2006, 07:14:27 pm
At least there is a link to listen in on tonights ODAC-USA South Challenge games being held at Averett in Danville.  Women at 6:00, Men at 8:00.

http://www.averett.edu/statistics/cougarlive.htm


ODAC ladies win. :)   Silva leading scorer and MVP.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on March 24, 2006, 10:15:16 am
Bridgewater finished the season ranked No. 18 by the WBCA.

http://www.wbca.org/DIIICoachesPoll.asp
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: waterlucy on March 25, 2006, 01:53:57 pm
Some people have implied that the ODAC is not a very strong conference.  However, we have the top male and female player's of the year in the same conference.  In addition, Bridgewater is also in the top 25 for the women.  Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on March 29, 2006, 07:44:48 pm
Anyone know if the NCAA Womens basketball all-star game that Silva is in on Saturday is being broadcast on the 'net?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on March 29, 2006, 09:06:31 pm
"Uunfortunately neither game [high school or college] is televised this year."
 - Jenifer Jenifer Scheibler, Manager of Events & Legislation
Women's Basketball Coaches Association (WBCA)


Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on March 29, 2006, 09:08:09 pm
"Uunfortunately neither game [high school or college] is televised this year."
 - Jenifer Jenifer Scheibler, Manager of Events & Legislation
Women's Basketball Coaches Association (WBCA)

Her first and middle names are both Jenifer? You'd think the parents would at least spell it right if they are going to give her the same first and middle name.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on March 30, 2006, 03:27:20 pm
I'm headed to the game on Saturday to watch Silva play... hopefully she'll get some respectable playing time! I'll give a full report when I get back  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 30, 2006, 04:39:24 pm
"Uunfortunately neither game [high school or college] is televised this year."
 - Jenifer Jenifer Scheibler, Manager of Events & Legislation
Women's Basketball Coaches Association (WBCA)

Her first and middle names are both Jenifer?...

Why not? How many fanatical VWC hoops' alums will name  their first born sons "Ton Ton"  this year? ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 30, 2006, 05:59:03 pm
Megan Silva piece in USA TODAY today. Ran on p. 4 of the print edition.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/womensbasketball/tourney06/2006-03-30-silva_x.htm
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on March 30, 2006, 06:02:20 pm
"Uunfortunately neither game [high school or college] is televised this year."
 - Jenifer Jenifer Scheibler, Manager of Events & Legislation
Women's Basketball Coaches Association (WBCA)

Her first and middle names are both Jenifer?...

Why not? How many fanatical VWC hoops' alums will name  their first born sons "Ton Ton"  this year? ;)

But is Ton his middle name?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on March 30, 2006, 07:19:53 pm
Megan Silva piece in USA TODAY today. Ran on p. 4 of the print edition.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/womensbasketball/tourney06/2006-03-30-silva_x.htm

Thanks Pat !
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on April 02, 2006, 07:44:44 pm
I made the trek to Boston last night to see Silva play in the all star game. It was a great game all around, and Silva seemed a little nervous, but held her own very well. She got a few shots off... although in my humble opinion she should would have gotten more looks if they would have dished it off to her more! She played very good defense as expected and did a good job all around. Kudos to Megan for a fantastic season and career!!!

Jacketlawyer - how goes the crusade to retire number 11??? :) Let me know what I can do to help  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on April 03, 2006, 08:53:55 am

Jacketlawyer - how goes the crusade to retire number 11??? :) Let me know what I can do to help  ;D

I emailed a few people at R-M about it back in February, but haven't heard anything about it.  I think they were waiting to see how far Silva would go this year.  I'd have to think they'd be considering it strongly knowing the people there that I do.  Good job on going to Boston!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 03, 2006, 12:35:06 pm
I think a good way to go on things like this is to start by unofficially retiring the number immediately (as in, don't hand it out to incoming classes) but don't have a retirement ceremony until a few years down the line. That enables the school to have a nice get-together with the team, perhaps at reunion time, and introduce the player's accomplishments to the next generation of your school's fans.

Just my $.02.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketlawyer on April 03, 2006, 12:42:08 pm
I think a good way to go on things like this is to start by unofficially retiring the number immediately (as in, don't hand it out to incoming classes) but don't have a retirement ceremony until a few years down the line. That enables the school to have a nice get-together with the team, perhaps at reunion time, and introduce the player's accomplishments to the next generation of your school's fans.

Just my $.02.

And a very good $.02 that was! ;D

I agree with withholding the number and having a ceremony down the road a few years.  She's got to be a shoe-in for our HOF, at the very least.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on April 03, 2006, 12:43:40 pm
I think a good way to go on things like this is to start by unofficially retiring the number immediately (as in, don't hand it out to incoming classes) but don't have a retirement ceremony until a few years down the line. That enables the school to have a nice get-together with the team, perhaps at reunion time, and introduce the player's accomplishments to the next generation of your school's fans.

Just my $.02.

good idea
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on April 03, 2006, 04:57:52 pm
I think a good way to go on things like this is to start by unofficially retiring the number immediately (as in, don't hand it out to incoming classes) but don't have a retirement ceremony until a few years down the line. That enables the school to have a nice get-together with the team, perhaps at reunion time, and introduce the player's accomplishments to the next generation of your school's fans.

Just my $.02.

And a very good $.02 that was! ;D

I agree with withholding the number and having a ceremony down the road a few years. She's got to be a shoe-in for our HOF, at the very least.


whats HOF?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on April 03, 2006, 04:59:55 pm
I think a good way to go on things like this is to start by unofficially retiring the number immediately (as in, don't hand it out to incoming classes) but don't have a retirement ceremony until a few years down the line. That enables the school to have a nice get-together with the team, perhaps at reunion time, and introduce the player's accomplishments to the next generation of your school's fans.

Just my $.02.

And a very good $.02 that was! ;D

I agree with withholding the number and having a ceremony down the road a few years. She's got to be a shoe-in for our HOF, at the very least.


whats HOF?

hall of fame! are you blonde? lol just kidding :P
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on April 03, 2006, 05:12:18 pm
ok wow - long day - didnt click....sorry but yes definetly a shoe in - and the retirement of #11 should be a shoe-on as well
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: heinbball on April 03, 2006, 05:12:57 pm
shoe in - not on - please excuse the typo
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on April 03, 2006, 09:46:18 pm
That is "shoo-in" and "shoe on".

I are an English grad. ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 05, 2006, 11:37:38 am
That is "shoo-in" and "shoe on".

I are an English grad. ;D

An English professor named Chase
Loves to mark with red ink and erase
She said when I sense
An incorrect tense
I edit in BOLD UPPER CASE!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on May 07, 2006, 08:19:41 pm
Any news on recruiting from the ODAC?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on May 09, 2006, 08:22:53 pm
The Bridgewater Women's Basketball team just held their end of the year picnic. This is when they hand out their team awards; most improved, hustle award, and MVP. These awards are voted on by the players.

Katy Herr was voted by her fellow players as the most valuable player to the team, and rightfully so. She led her team in assists (2nd in the ODAC), in steals (2nd in the ODAC), in assist-to-turnover ratio (2nd in the ODAC), in rebounds (as a 5'3 point guard!)(15th in the ODAC), and she was second on her team in scoring (21st in the ODAC)( Kinder, who led the team in scoring, took over 100 more shots then Herr, and only shot 2% better then Herr). Herr was third on the team with the most turn-overs, yet she averaged the most minutes and was practically the only point guard on the team.

Herr was the backbone of Bridgewater, leading the Eagles to two first-round upsets in the NCAA tournament and a berth in the Sweet 16. She was 1 assist shy of a triple-double in the Eagles' upset of nationally ranked Bates, and when she was taken out of the Southern Maine game, the Huskies outscored the Eagles by 10 with BC committing 5 turnovers during that span of time.

So, without Herr, the Eagles most valuable player, Bridgewater would have had no where close to the success they had this past year.

So, what is my point?

My point is this. I feel that Katy Herr was not given the credit she deserved when it came to naming the Regional teams. Marsha Kinder was the Eagles' only player to be named to a regional team (2nd team). Several of the ODAC's second team selections made teams, while Herr, a first team all ODAC selection, was not honored at all. If any Eagle should have been named to a regional team, it should have been their MVP, "our little engine that keeps us going," as Coach Jean Willi said about Herr.

I was not happy when Herr got no recognition in the regional teams, and after I found out she was voted by her players as their MVP, I felt like I needed to vent, and I figured this was the best place to do it.

So, to Katy Herr.....great season! in my book you are definitely an all-region selection! Keep leading those Eagles!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on May 11, 2006, 08:26:51 pm
I agree with you Fairmont; Katy Herr was more then deserving of all-South region recognition. Everytime I watched her play, I was impressed. To me, she was the best point-guard in the whole ODAC.

Who decides about who makes the all-South region teams? Maybe they didn't get enough of a chance to watch Herr play??? Anyone who watched that team could easily tell that Herr was the leader of that squad.Herr's only questionable stat was her scoring average (11.2 pts a game, 2nd on the team, 21st in the ODAC), however she was strong in every other statistical category, and that includes floor leadership and hustle. I think scoring average holds too much weight in deciding all-Conference/Region/American teams.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 23, 2006, 02:52:17 pm
A little off topic but directed towards Bridgewater.  I hear the hall of fame at Bridgewater will be inducting a really good family friend of mine into their Hall of Fame in September.  Her name is Alice Puckett.  She played basketball and field hockey there. She is a very deserving of the induction.  Not only is she a family friend she was also my 9th grade gym teacher.  She is the person that got me rolling into the excitment that comes with womens basketball.  As I helped her with her coaching my high school girls basketball team.  Not only a good coach for basketball but also for field hockey. She has brought all 9 state championship teams in field hockey.  I thank you Bridgewater for inducting her into the hall of fame.  I want to do something special for her as she would do the same for me.  If there is anyone that has pictures or anything of her at the school.  I would like to get an album from her playing days together. (It would probably be easier to contact the school i know, but i figured i'd give this a shot too.)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on June 04, 2006, 09:42:55 am
recruiting info from d3hoops.com's daily dose:

Lynchburg: Chevonne Booker (Thomas Jefferson HS, Richmond, Va.), Danielle Miller (Westfield HS, Herndon, Va.), Rachel Leake (Brentsville HS, Haymarket, Va.), Amy Terry (Pulaski County HS, Dublin, Va.), Katie Lay (Mills Godwin HS, Richmond, Va.), Jessica Harris (Croatan HS, N.C.), Loriann Garcia (Seneca Valley HS, Germantown, Md.), Brittany Dahn (Deep Run HS, Glen Allen, Va.), Caryn Blanquicet (Yorktown HS, Arlington, Va.), Dana Esposito (Academy of Holy Names HS, Fla.), Kristina Darby (Academy of Holy Names HS, Fla.)

Emory and Henry: Kristen Ross (Jackson County HS, Tenn.), Beth Ross (Jackson County HS, Tenn.)

Washington and Lee: Lauren Heitshusen (South Side HS, N.Y.)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on June 05, 2006, 09:47:05 am
A little off topic but directed towards Bridgewater.  I hear the hall of fame at Bridgewater will be inducting a really good family friend of mine into their Hall of Fame in September.  Her name is Alice Puckett.  She played basketball and field hockey there. She is a very deserving of the induction.  Not only is she a family friend she was also my 9th grade gym teacher.  She is the person that got me rolling into the excitment that comes with womens basketball.  As I helped her with her coaching my high school girls basketball team.  Not only a good coach for basketball but also for field hockey. She has brought all 9 state championship teams in field hockey.  I thank you Bridgewater for inducting her into the hall of fame.  I want to do something special for her as she would do the same for me.  If there is anyone that has pictures or anything of her at the school.  I would like to get an album from her playing days together. (It would probably be easier to contact the school i know, but i figured i'd give this a shot too.)

The person that could help you out with that would be Steve Cox, SID at Bridgewater.  Send him an email at scox@bridgewater.edu.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 09, 2006, 06:29:52 pm
eh...just call me kid.   I did e-mail him.  Right after I posted my message.  No Luck. Oh well
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 03, 2006, 01:44:35 pm
According to this post from the Norfolk area, Joclyn Terry, a 5'6" guard, will play for Guilford.

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=106798&ran=113886
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on July 17, 2006, 07:22:16 pm
Just released today that RMC will lose Ana Litton as assistant coach.  Any guess who LaHaye will be looking for to replace her?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on July 23, 2006, 10:55:48 pm
Just released today that RMC will lose Ana Litton as assistant coach.  Any guess who LaHaye will be looking for to replace her?

Haven't heard anything about a possible replacement through the R-MC grapevine yet...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on August 05, 2006, 05:15:16 pm
Look for some assistant coaching changes on the Lynchburg Hornets sideline this year, and some, from what i hear, awesome recruits.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 07, 2006, 04:50:23 pm
http://athletics.vassar.edu/?action=fullnews&id=899

FYI - Former Guilford Head Coach Barb Bausch, who led the Quakers to the NCAA tournament twice, was recently named Women's Head Coach at Vassar.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on August 09, 2006, 11:46:52 am
There was anarticle in the Lynchburg newspaper today that said RMWC is going to vote next month on rather they should become a coed school or not. Any thoughts on this? If they add men i guess we'd ahve to establish between the two macons by location now.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on September 11, 2006, 10:31:57 am
Well Randolph-Macon Women's College will officially be a co-ed school starting next school year. They plan on admitting 35 male students for next school year.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on September 26, 2006, 03:35:27 pm
Lynchburg's women's preseason roster has been posted on the website, as well as the men if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Guilford BB Schedule
Post by: hasanova on October 03, 2006, 11:01:32 am
Guilford published their schedule last Friday.  The women open with Bennett in a home tournament.  McMurry (TX) and SUNY Oneonta are the other bracket.  Other non-conference games are Greensboro at home plus Ferrum and Methodist at a tournament in Fayetteville.  The usual 20-game ODAC schedule completes the 25-game regular season.

http://www.guilford.edu/athletics/releases/2006-07/BBSchedules.html

 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 11:41:36 pm
Does every team have the rosters up in the ODAC?

Is Randolph-Macon in the fans eyes favorite to win?  Or Bridgewater?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on October 05, 2006, 06:49:59 am
Does every team have the rosters up in the ODAC?

Is Randolph-Macon in the fans eyes favorite to win?  Or Bridgewater?

I doubt every team does, Guilford seems to be slow getting info out, at least on the men's bball side so it's probably the samew way for the women.

I'd go with Bridgewater.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 09:04:53 am
Scottie-

I agree.  Bridgewater.  Unless, Ms. Silva cloned herself in the offseason, and her clone has 4 years of eligbility.  Highly unlikely. ;D :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on October 05, 2006, 09:32:26 pm
Definitely a rebuilding year for RMC. In addition to losing Silva and Orton, another player graduated and 3 players who would have been seniors did not return due to financial or medical reasons. RMC loses 6 of 7 of their upperclassmen.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 10:18:03 pm
What is to be said about Bridgewater then?  Are they going to be able to dominate has much as Randolph-Macon did two years ago?  If not, is the ODAC going to be a more balanced league this year?  I don't think RMC is going to fall that much despite losing some good players.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on October 06, 2006, 09:16:25 am
Don't sleep on LC this year! These girls Coach Tobey brought in this year can flat out ball!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on October 06, 2006, 01:05:29 pm
One of Mary Washington's players transferred to RMC
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on October 06, 2006, 06:58:57 pm
One of Mary Washington's players transferred to RMC

Hopefully she will be able to contribute. I think RMC will have 2 seniors and 0 juniors......a very young team.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 11:28:23 pm
One of Mary Washington's players transferred to RMC

Hopefully she will be able to contribute. I think RMC will have 2 seniors and 0 juniors......a very young team.

RMC suspisous  ;)  Mary Washington a very talented young team
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on October 10, 2006, 12:03:26 am
This will definitly be a rebuilding year for RMC, but I wouldn't count them out just yet. Silva was definitly one of a kind but it took more than just her to get them as far as they did the past two years. The two seniors and returning starters- morgan and shaffer are among the elite talents in the ODAC who are coming in with alot of experience. Also, division I transfer marta merkel is back from injury and she will be a key player for this team.  They may be smaller this year after losing many post players, but they will certainly be one of the fastest teams in the ODAC. And a correction- there are 2 seniors, and 3 juniors this year.. this is with the addition of the transfer from mary washington.  And the 3 players that left would have been juniors, not seniors, but the team certainly is young. Hiltunen and Reisbeck had great freshmen years last year and they will contribute even more so this year. Like I said, this team may be young but they are still capable of alot...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 10, 2006, 08:39:47 am
I think RMC could still be solid.  I saw the post players play and thought they were a little soft on the inside. (There is nothing wrong with it, some of the best hands I have seen for posts)  They were slow though.  GC in 75-61 lost had two girls out rebound the giants of RMC.  We had no one over 5'11.  If you say the team will be faster then, I can't see how they won't finish near the top, because overall team speed last year was not very fast.  Speed can make up alit of things in basketball.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on October 10, 2006, 02:45:42 pm
i dont know what team you watched last year, but RMC was by far the fastest team in the odac and used that to their advantage helping them get to the elite eight. this year they will be even faster with the addition of many new guards, so it will be interesting to see what Coach LaHaye does as far as using 2 posts or just one.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on October 14, 2006, 02:03:16 pm
who is the favorite???

I would have to go with Bridgewater. Yes, they lost their leading scorer, Marsha Kinder, but that is about all she did....score. She was a great player, but she will not be as greatly missed as players like Jennifer King (Guilford) or Megan Silva (RMC). Bridgewater has four solid returning starters who are looking very good so far in preseason, and they also have some good potential in several freshmen.

So, for a team that finished #23 in the country with a trip to the sweet 16 who only lost one starter, I think they will be very good.

Definitely don't sleep on RMC. They definitely will have a good team back, although no where near at the level they were the past couple years. When you lose two All-Americans (Orton and Silva) you just aren't going to be as good.

What is the deal with VWC? I know they had no seniors on last year's squad, but did everyone come back?

About Lynchburg....I have heard some bad things about Coach Tobey, although they are not from the best of sources. So, can anyone explain to me why Tobey has only two returners to her team (Jessie Bridge and Caroline Wesley, both seniors) and 13 freshmen!!! I heard she was not the most popular of coaches with some of her players, which I guess would explain why practically no one came back. Can anyone fill me in on that situation?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 03:41:34 pm
i dont know what team you watched last year, but RMC was by far the fastest team in the odac and used that to their advantage helping them get to the elite eight. this year they will be even faster with the addition of many new guards, so it will be interesting to see what Coach LaHaye does as far as using 2 posts or just one.

They very well were the fastest team of the 3 ODAC teams I saw play.  The post players were some of the slowest I have seen. :-\
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on October 16, 2006, 04:25:53 pm
About Lynchburg....I have heard some bad things about Coach Tobey, although they are not from the best of sources. So, can anyone explain to me why Tobey has only two returners to her team (Jessie Bridge and Caroline Wesley, both seniors) and 13 freshmen!!! I heard she was not the most popular of coaches with some of her players, which I guess would explain why practically no one came back. Can anyone fill me in on that situation?

5 players graduated, one isn't even in school right now, much less Lynchburg, and the only one who could ahve returned that would ahve made any differene was eirka seay, hwo was a turnover machine. I'd rather have all these freshman than what could have returned.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on October 16, 2006, 07:21:47 pm
According to the Women's DIII News Preseason Top 25 the BC Eagles are ranked #12 in the nation!


1. The University of Scranton
2. Southern Maine
3. Baldwin-Wallace
4. Hope
5. New York University
6. DePauw
7. Bowdoin
8. Messiah
9. Wisconsin-Stout
10. Carroll
11. Bates
12. Bridgewater
13. Mary Washington
14. Hardin-Simmons
15. Calvin
16. Wheaton
17. Wisconsin-Stevens Point
18. Wilmington
19. St. Benedict
20. Washington (Mo.)
21. McMurray
22. Williams
23. Maryville (Tenn.)
24. Simpson
25. Salem State
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on October 16, 2006, 07:29:54 pm
whats the website for DIII news, i couldn't find it.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on October 16, 2006, 09:09:39 pm
I got my information from the Bridgewater Athletics site.....here is the link to the article by Bridgewater's SID, Steve Cox...
http://www.bridgewater.edu/Sports/news/wbbpreTop25.htm

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on October 17, 2006, 09:09:14 am
Record watch!

Lynchburg Caroline Wesley has the potential to set several new records or establish herself in the top 3 in some categories.

Points: currently has 913, so she should easily be the 6th player in LC history with 1000. If she averaged 304 like she has over her first three seasons, she will have amassed 1217 points, good for third all-time

Field goals: has 331. if she gets 110 field goals (which is her average over three years), she will have amassed 441 field goals, good for third all-time

FG%: currently boasts a 50.5% fg percentage (331/656), which is good for second all-time now, with the best beaing 50.7%

free throws: has amassed 251 free throws. second played is 268 so she could easil break that, and she also has a chance at being #1, with the record setting at 358.

free throw %: sits at 78% (251/322), which is third all-time. second best is 78/8% and record is 79.5%, so if she shoots enough free throws at the 81% mark like last year, she could conceivably be at least second

boards: has 614 currently. if she amasses 205 like she has averaged the past three seasons, she will finish with 819, good for third all-time

blocks: already currently in second place with 133. the record is 151, so if she blocks shots at the pace she did her freshman and sophomore year she will demolish that record, she'll most likely barely beat the record at the very least.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on October 17, 2006, 09:43:48 am
Are these school records that you are referring to?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on October 17, 2006, 10:52:28 am
Are these school records that you are referring to?

yes
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on October 17, 2006, 10:01:44 pm
I think that the Bridgewater team is talented but not talented enough to be ranked in the top 25.. Yes, they had a great season last year, but they also lost their top scorer in Kinder. I just dont think they have the weapons to be up there. I still think that RMC is more talented, even without Silva and Orton.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on October 23, 2006, 08:29:54 pm
I think that the Bridgewater team is talented but not talented enough to be ranked in the top 25.. Yes, they had a great season last year, but they also lost their top scorer in Kinder. I just dont think they have the weapons to be up there. I still think that RMC is more talented, even without Silva and Orton.
I like RMC's pre-season (non ) rating ;)  No expectations and no where to go but up ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on October 24, 2006, 08:00:26 pm
I think that the Bridgewater team is talented but not talented enough to be ranked in the top 25.. Yes, they had a great season last year, but they also lost their top scorer in Kinder. I just dont think they have the weapons to be up there. I still think that RMC is more talented, even without Silva and Orton.

I agree that Bridgewater's ranking might be a little high, however I do believe they deserve to be in the top 25...and I agree with GAVA...its always nice to not have the bulls-eye on your back because when you're in the top 25...everyone is out to get you!

Now...about RMC being more talented then Bridgewater...I'm not too sure about that. Just look at what RMC lost compared to BC, and you can see why I have a problem saying RMC is still the better team.

RMC lost four seniors, Silva, Orton, Thompson, and Senske. All of these seniors were starters at one point or another, Silva and Orton started 100% of the time, Senske 74% of the time, and Thompson29%.

Losing these four seniors mean losing....
58.9% of the scoring
50.7% of the rebounds
50.6% of the steals
46.6% of the assists
47% of minutes played
53.1% of blocks

and...here is the lowest statistical category these seniors ranked in...
44% of the turnovers
(I guess the returners have one stat they won't have to pick up the slack in as much!!!)

So, RMC is losing a lot and will have to heavily rely on their returners. They have some very talented returners and will be a very dangerous team. The only thing I am questioning, baller116, is your confidence in saying that RMC is still better then the Eagles.


Here is what BC is losing in their one senior, Kinder....
24.1% of the scoring
8.0% of the rebounds
12.5% of the steals
13.1% of the assists
15.9% of the minutes played
2.4% of the blocks
14% of the turnovers


The two stats that Kinder ranked in the top 2 in for the Eagles, were scoring and turnovers. She was an amazing player who will greatly be missed. All I am saying is that BC has four talented returning starters who did a lot for this team. They have a deep bench and some good looking freshmen.

I think BC is the team to beat, and the better team then RMC.

However....only time will tell.......

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 25, 2006, 12:43:07 pm
So what is the overall consensus.  Need a poll question, because I am about to pick Randolph-Macon Women's college to win it all.  (sorry just a little joke.)  What are they going to change the college name too, since last I heard they were going to accept men?

I am still with Bridgewater to win it.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on October 26, 2006, 11:48:26 am
fairmont, i agree with you in many ways.. however i think that even the non starters for rmc last year were more talented than most of the eagle starters.. that was macon's problem last year.. they had so much talent but had trouble getting chemistry on the court from that talent. i know it seems like i am biased towards rmc, but i just think people are writing them off too quickly.. they have built up a program the past 2 years that is unquestionably the best in odac history.. and they lose some very talented players so they are no good and not worthy of a ranking? i am with rmc to win..  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on October 26, 2006, 06:29:33 pm
baller116.....I can't say I agree with you. I am not sure of anyone who is writing RMC off. I have talked to several people from different teams around the league, and the consensus is that people are still very worried about RMC and how good they will be. They have a lot of talent returning, but what they lost is unreplaceable. I am also not sure about RMC's bench being better then some of Bridgewater's starters?? That does sound very biased to me. RMC was 2-1 against BC last year, and the game that RMC won on their home court was very close. In fact, BC led with 3 minutes left in the game before RMC took control by making 8-of-8 from the free throw line over the last three minutes. There were 9 ties in that game. So, BC played RMC pretty evenly throughout the season. It will be interesting to see how the ODAC will go this year. Of course, we can't forget that VA Wesleyan had a pretty good team last year (even though they fell apart in the end) and they didn't lose anybody!

Judging by talent alone (don't forget talent alone does not win ball games)
I will go with Bridgewater to win the ODAC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 26, 2006, 08:23:16 pm
The judge of how well they (RMC) is how much they dominate my conference (USASouth)  They start with Methodist and Averett.  Not too of the best teams coming out.  Methodist likes to run, and Averett wants to keep it close.  Take your pick.  Although a few years ago RMC played Shenadoah University (the NCAA finalist year)  SU finished last in USASouth and RMC beat SU 98-91.  The point is Silva was the difference in that game.  So if they dominate AU and MC then don't count out RMC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on October 29, 2006, 02:36:00 pm
RMC and Mary Washington are scrimmaging. Should be a good measure for RMC to see where they still stand after losing so much off of last year's squad.Any information that people can give us about the outcome of that scrimmage would be great!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Balder Eagle on October 29, 2006, 07:37:28 pm
117 to 89 Total Offense in MWU's favor.
1st half was totally MWU.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on October 29, 2006, 07:51:51 pm
thanks Balder Eagle!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Balder Eagle on October 29, 2006, 08:11:40 pm
Most Welcome,
Just a reminder - they played three halves   :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 30, 2006, 12:38:51 am
So looking based on that about a 78-60 win for Mary Washington.  I am sure neither team has everything in place and I am not too sure how much scouting and tape was watched for the game and scrimmages are scrimmages.  Mary Washington is expected to return alot of players, and not RMC.  I would expect the score to be something along those lines maybe a 75-65 score.  IMO
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Balder Eagle on October 30, 2006, 07:21:55 am
Numbers appear good, MWU never put all it’s strength on the court once. Do not know what RMC did in those regards. MWU played four freshmen in combinations with their seasoned players. Bruen and Hickey were never on the floor at the same time and were played sparingly. As stated it was a scrimmage  :). It was good to see some action. Will be a great season of Div III Basketball!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: eaglemaniac on October 30, 2006, 08:05:06 am
117 to 89 Total Offense in MWU's favor.
1st half was totally MWU.

Balder Eagle- Say this with me.....UMW......UMW.........UMW  ;D
Thanks for the Update...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Balder Eagle on October 30, 2006, 09:08:30 am
UMW UMW UMW

 ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on October 30, 2006, 09:15:41 am
Key Stroke Comedy?  ::)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on October 31, 2006, 06:49:50 pm
I believe that RMC lost to Mary Washington by about 10 last year in a 3 halve scrimmage... and RMC ended up making it further(elite eight) then MW..(Sweet Sixteen).. so it isnt quite a good indication of whose the better team. RMC definitly needs to find the chemistry between the returning and new players though.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 31, 2006, 08:35:13 pm
I believe that RMC lost to Mary Washington by about 10 last year in a 3 halve scrimmage... and RMC ended up making it further(elite eight) then MW..(Sweet Sixteen).. so it isnt quite a good indication of whose the better team. RMC definitly needs to find the chemistry between the returning and new players though.

Probably true, but then you have to ask.  Who had the toughest bracket in the postseason.  I would have to say Mary Washington.  There are alot of really good teams up that way.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on October 31, 2006, 10:01:04 pm
I'm not a big Mary Washington fan, but I do have to agree with PrideSportBBallGuy, MWU did have a much tougher bracket.

Also....I hear that RMC got a transfer from MWU...interesting. Is she any good? I wonder how it was having the first time in a RMC jersey be against your old team? I wonder why she left MWU for RMC?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on November 01, 2006, 01:50:19 pm
WABC ranks Eagles No. 18
     The Bridgewater College women’s basketball team is ranked No. 18 in the WABC Division III preseason poll.
     Fellow ODAC team Randolph-Macon is ranked No. 23 in the poll. Mary Washington, a team the Eagles will face during the regular season in a non-conference matchup is ranked No. 8.
     Earlier, the Eagles were ranked No. 12 in the DIII Women’s News preseason poll.


This was off of the Bridgewater website. It looks like the WABC feels that Bridgewater and RMC will be pretty close in talent this year. Two ODAC women's teams ranked in the top 25!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 01, 2006, 06:16:03 pm
WABC ranks Eagles No. 18
     The Bridgewater College women’s basketball team is ranked No. 18 in the WABC Division III preseason poll.
     Fellow ODAC team Randolph-Macon is ranked No. 23 in the poll. Mary Washington, a team the Eagles will face during the regular season in a non-conference matchup is ranked No. 8.
     Earlier, the Eagles were ranked No. 12 in the DIII Women’s News preseason poll.


This was off of the Bridgewater website. It looks like the WABC feels that Bridgewater and RMC will be pretty close in talent this year. Two ODAC women's teams ranked in the top 25!

That seems to match the debate on this board.  I would have to look at who votes on the poll. (Not who, but which schools.)  Most of those schools are not even around the area or in the region.  They might have a better understanding of the schools in those regions, and could very well overlook the potential of schools in the south region.  Mainly BC and RMC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on November 05, 2006, 02:55:18 pm
Bridgewater is ranked #21 according the D3hoops preseason poll, with both, that's right, both RMC and VWC just outside the top 25 with both teams receiving votes.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on November 07, 2006, 12:26:59 pm
EMU men and women will play an exhibition game tonight against the D-1 JMU Dukes. Should be interesting!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacfan99 on November 07, 2006, 01:38:15 pm
Bridgewater is ranked #21 according the D3hoops preseason poll, with both, that's right, both RMC and VWC just outside the top 25 with both teams receiving votes.

A little surprised RMC is getting that kind of respect after the gaping hole left by Silva's departure, not to mention Michelle Orton and Megan Senske.  Nonethtless, I think RMC will be competitive.  No superstars this year, but these girls LOVE to play and have some talent.  Riesbeck's health could be a cause for concern, though.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on November 07, 2006, 02:50:53 pm
Riesbeck's health?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on November 07, 2006, 04:43:11 pm
Reisbeck had some knee problems last year, but had surgery this past summer, so she should be good to go this year. Maybe no superstars as far as scoring, but they do have the best defensive player in kristen morgan, her fourth straight year starting. There is a huge gap by Silva and Orton but these girls do love to play and they will be surprising many people this year.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on November 07, 2006, 06:34:43 pm
I will reiterate what I said before....RMC will not be "surprising" people, they will not be the underdogs. People are thinking they will be a good team, and they will be a good team. So, let's get off this thing about RMC being a team that is going to surprise people or is a team that is overlooked. Any team that is getting votes for the d3hoops top 25 is not being overlooked. The only way RMC will surprise anyone is if they have a bad season.

Kristen Morgan? Best defensive player? I went and saw RMC play EMU, Bridgewater, and W&L during the regular season, and saw them play Guilford in the torunament. I would definitely not consider her the best defensive player. I saw a great deal of ODAC games last year, and I would consider either Katy Herr or Megan Silva to be the best defenders. I also think Louisa Feve was an outstanding defender. All of these girls ranked ahead of Morgan in the steals and blocks categories, and just from watching them on several occasions were better.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacfan99 on November 07, 2006, 08:45:42 pm
Valleybballfan makes a good point about Morgan.  Though she is a good defender, Herr and several others in the ODAC are superior.  Morgan does possess great court sense, however, and her real strength is her leadership on the floor.  She is the glue, baby.

Disagree with Valley on her (?) assessment of RMC as a good team.  I'm not sold on the d3hoops prognostications once you get below the Top 25.  My recollection is several teams in last year's "Other Teams Receiving Votes" pool disappeared quickly, never to return.  I'm not saying RMC won't be good - it's just too early to tell.  When you lose 3 starters and 2 others who contributed significant minutes, it's hard to project last year's success on this "new" squad.  It will take at least 6 games to develop chemistry and another 6 games (so, essentially half the regular season) to conclude if they are a good team (top 4 inthe ODAC) or a middle-of-the-pack team.  My preseason prediction is 12-8 in the ODAC which, based on last year's ODAC final standings, should be good for 5th place.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 07, 2006, 09:42:49 pm
EMU men and women will play an exhibition game tonight against the D-1 JMU Dukes. Should be interesting!

JMU Women  103       EMU Women 34     Final
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 09, 2006, 04:16:12 pm
EMU men and women will play an exhibition game tonight against the D-1 JMU Dukes. Should be interesting!

JMU Women  103       EMU Women 34     Final

I listened to the first five minutes on the radio.

Needless to say, that's all I could listen to, lol.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 09, 2006, 04:17:35 pm
Congrats to Katy Herr-Lovell for being named to the D3hoops.com preseason All-America third team (http://www.d3hoops.com/tow/wompreallam07.htm).  Much deserved!

I can't wait for the season to start!  With BC football finishing up, I'll be on here bothering you all very soon. :)

GO EAGLES!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on November 09, 2006, 04:20:15 pm
I take it Katy Herr got married over the summer.

If so, my congrats!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on November 09, 2006, 04:23:23 pm
Yes, congratulations to Katy Herr-Lovell of BC on making pre-season All-American Honors! Much deserved!

The women's basketball had their media day today down in Roanoke, and the BC Eagles were voted as the favorite for this season. Here's the link to the article and to the complete list of team's and rankings.

http://www.odaconline.com/0607wbbpoll.htm

2006-07 ODAC Women’s Basketball Preseason Poll

(#) indicates first place votes
1. Bridgewater (8)
2. Virginia Wesleyan (2)
3. Randolph-Macon (1)
4. Roanoke
5. Washington & Lee
6. Emory & Henry
7. Eastern Mennonite
8. Guilford
9. Lynchburg
10. R-M Woman’s Coll.
11. Hollins
 
 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: feelthesting10 on November 09, 2006, 07:15:18 pm
The team I think everyone should watch out for upsetting some people is Lynchburg. They are EXTREMELY young, boasting 15 freshman and only two seniors on the roster. They have a nice tandem down low in Caroline Wesley and Jessie Bridge, both of whom have put up nice numbers in the ODAC. Rachel Leake, a freshman point guard, has nice potential at the point guard poistion and can really lead a team as I watched her play some last year in HS. I also know that a few other freshman are very good and athletic. It will be interesting to see how fast the kids can get adjusted, but it looks like Coach Tobey has done well hitting the recruiting path. I look for L'Burg to knock off at least one "top 3" team in the league, and would not be surprised to see them finish in the top five in the league. Also, my prediction for the future, watch out for Hollins in about 2-3 years. Coach Wags can recruit the valley, and once he does, they will become competitive.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on November 10, 2006, 12:29:16 am
It will be quite interesting to see how Lynchburg does with all of their freshmen??? If their freshmen are as good as some people are saying they are, then who knows what will happen???

I think saying that Jessie Bridge has been putting up nice numbers in the ODAC is a bit of an overstatement. She is a good player, strong and aggressive, but she is inconsistent and just started seeing quality minutes last season. Her first two seasons she was nonexistent, and last year she was spuradic. She had a three game stretch where she scored 57 points, an average of 19 points, and then the very next seven games she only amassed 24 total points, good for a 3.4 scoring clip during that stretch. This shows she has the potential to be very good for the Hornets, she just needs to stay consistent in order for Lynchburg to do well. 

As for freshmen potential......

The 2002-2003 campaign for Bridgewater saw the Eagles finish with an 11-16 record which was good for 7th place in the ODAC. The very next year, 2003-2004, BC welcomed incoming freshmen (now all seniors) Katy Herr, Jessica Young, Amy Childs, and Shannon Scales. Young, Herr, and Scales were all immediate impact players. Herr lead the team in scoring, assists, steals, was second in rebounding, and was named FOY and 2nd team all ODAC. Immediately the Eagles were thrust back into the winning ranks, they finished tied for first in the regular season with EMU, and eventually lost to RMC in the semifinals. They finished the year 22-6, a vast improvement from the year before. A good class of freshmen really can turn a program around. Just look at this year's senior class for the Eagles and what they did.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on November 10, 2006, 01:14:14 pm
Yes, Katy Herr did get married. It is now Katy Lovell, but for basketball they are using the hyphenated name.

If my information is correct, the young man she married coaches junior varsity boys' basketball at a local school and is going to Bridgewater part-time. I think they have been together for about 3 1/2 years, but he wasn't around Katy's freshmen year because of serving in the military.

Congratulations to Katy for much deserved recognition as a pre-season All-American!

Can't wait for the season to tip off! It will be interesting!

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on November 10, 2006, 05:10:51 pm
It will be quite interesting to see how Lynchburg does with all of their freshmen??? If their freshmen are as good as some people are saying they are, then who knows what will happen???



Their roster consists of 13 freshmen and 2 seniors????  ???What did they have last year?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: feelthesting10 on November 10, 2006, 08:50:46 pm
They had a normal breakdown last year, but some of the players decided to play other sports this year. They will miss Jessie Pierce, who was a nice shooting frosh a year ago.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on November 11, 2006, 09:42:15 am
Bridgewater is traveling to Arlington, VA today to scrimmage Marymount. Scrimmage starts at 1.

I heard that Lynchburg had a good showing in a scrimmage against Southern Virginia. How is the competition in the USCAA?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacfan99 on November 11, 2006, 11:14:25 am
Bridgewater is traveling to Arlington, VA today to scrimmage Marymount. Scrimmage starts at 1.

I heard that Lynchburg had a good showing in a scrimmage against Southern Virginia. How is the competition in the USCAA?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacfan99 on November 11, 2006, 11:18:28 am
Bridgewater is traveling to Arlington, VA today to scrimmage Marymount. Scrimmage starts at 1.

I heard that Lynchburg had a good showing in a scrimmage against Southern Virginia. How is the competition in the USCAA?

Not sure but they did win the USCAA National Championship last year and have 4 returning starters.  Don't know how the USCAA competition stacks up against the NCAA and NAIA but I do know Southern Virginia has 4 NCAA D1 teams on its regular season schedule for 2007. I'm guessing if Lynchburg had a good showing, they could surprise a lot of ODAC teams.  I know Booker and Dahn will be impact players immeidately...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on November 11, 2006, 01:47:34 pm
Bridgewater is traveling to Arlington, VA today to scrimmage Marymount. Scrimmage starts at 1.

I heard that Lynchburg had a good showing in a scrimmage against Southern Virginia. How is the competition in the USCAA?

Not sure but they did win the USCAA National Championship last year and have 4 returning starters.  Don't know how the USCAA competition stacks up against the NCAA and NAIA but I do know Southern Virginia has 4 NCAA D1 teams on its regular season schedule for 2007. I'm guessing if Lynchburg had a good showing, they could surprise a lot of ODAC teams.  I know Booker and Dahn will be impact players immeidately...

Lynchburg looked good, but Southern Virginia looked bad (ball handling and decision making by their guards was terrible at best), which made Lynchburg look damn good. And Lynchburg didn't even have Caroline Wesley on the court (injured but she is scheduled to play in the regular season opener). Kristina Darby and Dana Esposito simply tore through the SVA defense like a hot knife through butter. Those two girls are simply remarkable players. This team is going to be surprising people this year and for years to come. Tobey did a hell of a job recruiting and if she keeps recruiting like this, LC will be a strong contender for the ODAC championship!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on November 11, 2006, 03:37:15 pm
So, Scottie Too Hottie, give us your unbiased opinion.....you obviously feel Lynchburg deserves to be higher then their pre-season ranking of #9 in the league, where would you put them considering the talent of their freshmen? Would you put them up in the front of the pack with BC, RMC, and VWC, or would you put more towards the middle of the pack? What do you think?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on November 11, 2006, 04:09:18 pm
Middle of the pack. It's a young team, young teams generally tend to have some letdown games against opponents they should beat. Give them a year or two of seasoning and then we can talk about being "up in the front of the pack."
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on November 11, 2006, 04:49:08 pm
Bridgewater scrimmaged Marymount today and looked very good against a good program. Marymount has won 10 of the last 15 CAC championships, was a final four team in 2002, elite eight in 2004, and seven other times they have been sweet 16 teams. This year they are not ranked but they are receiving votes for the top 25. Bridgewater won 2 of the 3 halves, and the one half they lost they did not use their starters very much, but still only lost by a couple of points. I can not remember all the details, but I know they looked good and had some goodlooking freshmen.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on November 11, 2006, 05:06:22 pm
  I know Booker and Dahn will be impact players immeidately...

I heard that all 4 of the Richmond area freshmen played AAU ball together so should have some chemistry. We will see how that translate to the college hardwood.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Balder Eagle on November 11, 2006, 07:34:42 pm
Bridgewater scrimmaged Marymount today and looked very good against a good program. Marymount has won 10 of the last 15 CAC championships, was a final four team in 2002, elite eight in 2004, and seven other times they have been sweet 16 teams. This year they are not ranked but they are receiving votes for the top 25. Bridgewater won 2 of the 3 halves, and the one half they lost they did not use their starters very much, but still only lost by a couple of points. I can not remember all the details, but I know they looked good and had some goodlooking freshmen.

I predicted Marymount to be 4th in the CAC,  it will not be a banner year!

Well I may be full of baloney, are you are :)

  1. Mary Washington
  2. Catholic
  3. York
  4. Marymount
  5. St. Mary’s
  6. Salisbury
  7. (T)Goucher
  8. (T)Gallaudet
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacfan99 on November 13, 2006, 07:12:16 pm
4 days 'til the 2006/2007 ODAC hoop season!  Anyone else excited?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on November 14, 2006, 09:31:26 am
4 days 'til the 2006/2007 ODAC hoop season!  Anyone else excited?

I can't wait! I'll be hitting up the R-MC Tipoff Tourney... vs. Averett on Friday and Methodist on Saturday. It will be interesting to see how they match up.
Averett lost to Ferrum in the opening round of the USA South Conference Tournament last season, and Methodist lost to Peace in the opening round of that tournament as well.
Averett lost their only All-USA South player to graduation last year... Methodist has two All-USA South returners (senior forward Stacy Williams and junior guard Lisa Jackson).
In preseason polls, Methodist has been picked 4th in their conference.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: upper90 on November 14, 2006, 03:04:18 pm
How about some picks on this weekends ODAC tip offs?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacfan99 on November 14, 2006, 07:14:51 pm
4 days 'til the 2006/2007 ODAC hoop season!  Anyone else excited?

I can't wait! I'll be hitting up the R-MC Tipoff Tourney... vs. Averett on Friday and Methodist on Saturday. It will be interesting to see how they match up.
Averett lost to Ferrum in the opening round of the USA South Conference Tournament last season, and Methodist lost to Peace in the opening round of that tournament as well.
Averett lost their only All-USA South player to graduation last year... Methodist has two All-USA South returners (senior forward Stacy Williams and junior guard Lisa Jackson).
In preseason polls, Methodist has been picked 4th in their conference.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacfan99 on November 14, 2006, 07:21:33 pm
4 days 'til the 2006/2007 ODAC hoop season!  Anyone else excited?

I can't wait! I'll be hitting up the R-MC Tipoff Tourney... vs. Averett on Friday and Methodist on Saturday. It will be interesting to see how they match up.
Averett lost to Ferrum in the opening round of the USA South Conference Tournament last season, and Methodist lost to Peace in the opening round of that tournament as well.

Methodist has two All-USA South returners (senior forward Stacy Williams and junior guard Lisa Jackson).
In preseason polls, Methodist has been picked 4th in their conference.

 
Averett lost their only All-USA South player to graduation last year.

Great info RMCAlum30.  You inspired me to go to the websites of the schools and check out their stats and players from last year. Looks like some solid returning talent despite the losses to graduation you mention.  Hope you enjoy your trip back "home" to RMC.  And hope they make you proud!  Look for a starting lineup of Riesbeck, Hiltunen, Merkel, Morgan, and Shaeffer with strong help off the bench.  Megan (she's kind of like Michael, Magic, etc...no last name necessary) will be missed immesely but hopefully these girls can find inspiration in all she accomplished over the last 4 years and not be fearful about her absence.  Good luck to RMC and to all their loyal fans!!!  Go Jackets.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on November 14, 2006, 10:39:46 pm
4 days 'til the 2006/2007 ODAC hoop season!  Anyone else excited?

I can't wait! I'll be hitting up the R-MC Tipoff Tourney... vs. Averett on Friday and Methodist on Saturday. It will be interesting to see how they match up.

Hopefully RMC will win the Tip-Off Tourney. Last year they lost at home to a rated Springfield. Competiton not as tough this year but no Silva so could be close.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on November 15, 2006, 09:55:09 am
How about some picks on this weekends ODAC tip offs?

I'll start out with EMU traveling to Lancaster, PA to play Lancaster Bible College. LBC is in the NCCAA (National Christian College Athletic Association), and plays mainly bible colleges throughout the northeast as well as some of Penn State's satellite campuses. I know rankings aren't everything, but with EMU picked to finish 7th in the ODAC as well as having such a young team, LBC might give them a run for their money. However, EMU's got a bigger roster (both in terms of number of players as well as height... although neither team has anyone over 6')... I'll pick EMU, but it might be a close game!

I've already given my two cents about R-MC vs. Averett and Methodist this weekend. I agree that they may be close games, but I'm going with two wins for the Jackets!  ;D

On to Guilford... tried to check out the Bennett team they are going to be playing on Friday. Looks like it's a very new program... so far basketball is their only NCAA Division III sport. Couldn't find a roster at all (maybe I'm just bad at researching!), and based on it being what I would assume is such a new program, I'll have to go with Guilford winning on Friday night and matching up with the winner of the McMurry/SUNY Oneonta game on Saturday. That should be pretty good game. McMurry, 2006 ASC Tournament Champs, ended last season with a 26-3 record (they lost to Hardin-Simmons in the first round of NCAA's)... they're also preseason ranked #20 on D3hoops. SUNY Oneonta, 2006 ECAC (Div. III) Tournament Champs, finished 21-8 last year. I'll go with McMurray to win that game, and then between a Guilford and McMurray matchup, I'll go with McMurry again.

VWC vs. St. Olaf -- VWC is picked #2 preseason in the ODAC... four seniors to lead the team and a fair amount of height (three girls 6' or taller). St. Olaf was 10-15 overall last year... finishing 7th in the MIAC Conference. Three seniors this year but only one six footer. I'm picking VWC for this one.
They'll go on to face the winner of Maryville vs. Salisbury. Maryville - 23-7 last year, GSAC Tourney Champs, 2nd round NCAA's. Salisbury - 15-13 last year, so far they've only got seven girls listed on their roster. I'm picking Maryville, and also giving them a win over VWC.

Emory & Henry will get the easy win over Galludet (who only won 3 games last year), then most likely face Greensboro, last year's USA South Champs (Greensboro plays Misericordia on Friday... a team that went 15-10 last year). I'm picking Greensboro over E&H on Saturday.

It's a toss up between Lynchburg and Jersey City -- both teams working with two seniors each... Lynchburg is the younger team, but not by much. I think ultimately, how Caroline Wesley plays will decide the outcome. I'll pick Lynchburg to stay true to the ODAC, but again, it's a toss up. Couldn't figure out who the other two teams are in this tournament... all it says on both websites is TBA for Saturday.

W&L with the easy win over CCNY (1-21 last year). Then with the win over either Swarthmore or Eastern.

Hollins will be at the College of Notre Dame tourney in Maryland facing Bryn Mawr. I'm picking Bryn Mawr, but only because they won three games last year as opposed to Hollins not winning a game at all. Consolation game puts Hollins against St. Elizabeth (they'll lose to ND on Friday)... Hollins with the loss to St. Elizabeth on Saturday.

So those are my picks... very long post, I know, but hey -- gotta explain myself, right?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 15, 2006, 05:13:28 pm
RMCAlum30 - Re: Bennett Belles basketball.  You're not bad at researching.  Bennett is just notoriously poor at keeping up their website.  In fact, they're just notoriously poor - period.  They've had basketball off and on in the past, but the college (and their athletic program) just doesn't have their act together.  Even though it's one of the five colleges in the city of Greensboro, I don't remember Guilford ever playing them.  I think the last time Greensboro College played Bennett a few years ago it was something like 100-20 Pride.  In fact, it was sad to look at Bennett's boxscores for that whole season.  It was one 95 to 15 rout after another for the entire year.  Unless Bennett has recently improved in ways I'm not aware, I would expect Guilford to win handily.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 15, 2006, 05:21:23 pm
Does anyone know why 2005-06 FOY Kristine Ellis is not returning to Guilford?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 16, 2006, 02:25:52 pm
How healthy is Heather Phillips from VWC?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on November 17, 2006, 10:35:32 pm
RMC 88 Averett 55

Unofficially I had RMC with 4 players in double figures - Merkel (10), Hiltunen (11), Riesbeck (12) and Ariail (16).  Morgan and Shaffer had 9 each.  11 of 12 on the roster played, 10 scored points

Ariail is a 6' 2" Freshman.  She played impressive defense and had a nice soft touch from the free throw line (6 of 6).

Fast game, but  L O T S    O F    T U R N O V E R S by Macon.  I logged at least 15 in the first half alone. 

I didn't stay for the Catholic/Methodist game so not sure what to expect tomorrow.
Title: Guilford wins first game
Post by: hasanova on November 18, 2006, 09:44:52 am
http://www.guilford.edu/athletics/wbball/releases/2006-07/Bennett.html

Guilford defeated Bennett, 98-50, and McMurry defeated SUNY-Oneonta, 80-62, in Guilford's season-opening tournament Friday night in Greensboro.   GC/MU and BC/SUNY-Oneonta will play Saturday.  Guilford first year player Ann Seufer had eight 3-pointers and 28 points versus the Belles.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on November 18, 2006, 12:01:03 pm
RMC 88 Averett 55

Unofficially I had RMC with 4 players in double figures - Merkel (10), Hiltunen (11), Riesbeck (12) and Ariail (16).  Morgan and Shaffer had 9 each.  11 of 12 on the roster played, 10 scored points

Ariail is a 6' 2" Freshman.  She played impressive defense and had a nice soft touch from the free throw line (6 of 6).

Fast game, but  L O T S    O F    T U R N O V E R S by Macon.  I logged at least 15 in the first half alone. 

I didn't stay for the Catholic/Methodist game so not sure what to expect tomorrow.

I was VERY impressed by R-MC's play last night. Great chemistry on the court... the veterans and the newcomers are meshing very well for so early in the season.

MOLLY ARIAIL... all I have to say is absolutely amazing play for a freshman. 12 rebounds, 16 points, 3 blocks and SEVEN steals. Look for this girl to do big things in the ODAC this year.

Turnovers were definitely a problem... 35 total. If memory serves me correct, when I played, we ran in practice for every turnover above 20... and I think eventually coach raised the standards to keeping turnovers to under 15 a game.

Veterans Morgan, Shaffer and Merkel did a great job last night of keeping the team together and on the same page -- they are going to be a great asset this year in terms of leadership.

Methodist could be a challenge today... but I'm not worried -- look for a W for the Jackets today.  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on November 18, 2006, 06:19:26 pm
Who won the RMC game today??? It was at 4:00, so I am dissapointed that we don't have any updates yet ;)

I had to get on the Averett website last night to figure out who won that game.

What about all the other ODAC games that took place yesterday and today?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacfan99 on November 18, 2006, 07:57:24 pm
Who won the RMC game today??? It was at 4:00, so I am dissapointed that we don't have any updates yet ;)

I had to get on the Averett website last night to figure out who won that game.

What about all the other ODAC games that took place yesterday and today?

RMC won convincingly - don't remember the score but they won by 20+ points.  The game was never really close as the Jackets led by 22 at the half.  In an earlier post I predicted it would take 6 games to figure out team chemistry but it looks like they already have that happenin'.  Methodist is a big physical team with a strong low post game but nothing much from the perimeter. RMC defended the Monarchs accordingly which lead to the convincing win. The Jackets go 9 deep without losing a beat, at least based on the results and play after 2 games.  Marta Merkel and Kristin Morgan were named to the tournament team and Morgan was named the MVP.  If these games are accurate indicators of what's to come, this RMC squad will be serious contenders for the ODAC title.  The ODAC competition begins for them in 2 weeks at home against W&L and Bridgewater.  Stay tuned...
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 18, 2006, 08:05:26 pm
Like I said before nothing to worry about with RMC they took out the average teams from the USASAC (regretably so ODAC still has USASAC number)  E&H had a good showing this weekend going 2-0.  USA South Conference favorites went 1-1 in that same tournament (never played E&H though)  (I don't think Greensboro has ever started 2-0 in history)  They have Guilford this Tuesday.  Nova going to make the trip.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on November 18, 2006, 08:22:37 pm
Final score of RMC/Methodist game was 86-58

5 players in double figures - Morgan (11), Merkel (16, 13 in 1st half), Hiltunen (13), Riesbeck (11) and Ariail (10).   Ariail had three steals, but caused at least 3 others too.  I'm definitely looking forward to the first ODAC games.

Didn't seem like as many turnovers as yesterday and definitely not as many fouls (15 for the game today versus 24 last night).

Stein may be able to by next games  12/1 and 12/2 or shortly thereafter.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 18, 2006, 08:47:29 pm
Like I said before nothing to worry about with RMC they took out the average teams from the USASAC (regretably so ODAC still has USASAC number)  E&H had a good showing this weekend going 2-0.  USA South Conference favorites went 1-1 in that same tournament (never played E&H though)  (I don't think Greensboro has ever started 2-0 in history)  They have Guilford this Tuesday.  Nova going to make the trip.
I might.  Let me see how work goes that day.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2006, 08:56:22 pm
Thanks to the Guilford SID for the game reports from the Guilford Tip-off Tourney!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 19, 2006, 09:34:13 am
Thanks to the Guilford SID for the game reports from the Guilford Tip-off Tourney!
Dave Walters does a great job with all Guilford sports.   McMurry easily bests Guilford's young Quakers, 78-44, (MU proved why they deserve to be ranked!) and the SUNY-Oneonta Red Dragons overpower Bennett, 82-48 (it may be a long season for the Belles). 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 19, 2006, 03:49:17 pm
Thanks to the Guilford SID for the game reports from the Guilford Tip-off Tourney!
Dave Walters does a great job with all Guilford sports.   McMurry easily bests Guilford's young Quakers, 78-44, (MU proved why they deserve to be ranked!) and the SUNY-Oneonta Red Dragons overpower Bennett, 82-48 (it may be a long season for the Belles). 

hasanova, thanks for the props.  The frightening thing about that comment is that there are at least 2 other teams in the ASC-West that are that good (Howard Payne and Hardin-Simmons) and maybe a 3rd (Mary Hardin-Baylor). :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 21, 2006, 07:19:01 pm
Bridgewater just won 74-42 over Averett.

Katy Herr-Lovell led the Eagles with 17 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, and 5 steals.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 21, 2006, 08:00:41 pm
Apprentice 50, Washington & Lee 46
Builders lead for all but 2:30....but never more than 11.

Hunsinger 19 points and 11 rebounds

W&L had 27 turnovers and shot 18-of-48 from the field (37.5%)
Apprentice School only had 14 turnovers..but shot 22-of-66 from floor (33.3%)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 22, 2006, 12:00:48 am
Greensboro 85 Guilford 77.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 27, 2006, 08:25:02 am
*tap tap tap*

Is this thing on?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 29, 2006, 01:01:14 pm
Around the ODAC

Standings

SchoolODACOverallLast GameNext Game
1
Roanoke (http://www.roanoke.edu/athletics/sports/sportpage.cfm?sport_code=wbball)
1-0
2-1
W, Lynchburg [83-69]12/1 - VWC
Washington & Lee (http://athletics.wlu.edu/wbasketball/)
1-0
3-1
W, Hollins [90-26]12/1 - at R-MC
3
Randolph-Macon (http://www.rmc.edu/athletics/basketball/womens/index.asp)
0-0
2-0
W, Methodist [86-58]12/1 - W&L
#21 Bridgewater (http://bridgewater.edu/Sports/Womens_Basketball/)
0-0
1-0
W, Averett [74-42]11/29 - VWC
Eastern Mennonite (http://www.emu.edu/athletics/basketball-w/)
0-0
1-0
W, Lancaster Bible [95-43]11/29 - at R-M Woman's
Emory & Henry (http://www.ehc.edu/cgi-bin/MySQLdb?VIEW=/athletics/teams/viewone.txt&currentteam=11)
0-0
2-1
L, Ferrum [93-59]12/1 - at Lynchburg
Virginia Wesleyan (http://www.vwc.edu/athletics/wbasketball/)
0-0
2-1
W, Christopher Newport [77-63]11/29 - at Bridgewater
Guilford (http://www.guilford.edu/athletics/wbball/)
0-0
1-4
L, Methodist [65-52]12/1 - R-M Woman's
9
Hollins (http://www.hollins.edu/athletics/bball/bball.htm)
0-1
0-3
L, Washington & Lee [90-26]12/2 - Guilford
Lynchburg (http://www.lynchburg.edu/x4501.xml)
0-1
0-3
L, Roanoke [83-69]12/1 - E&H

News

11/27 - Roanoke's Erin Hanson named ODAC's Player of the Week (http://www.odaconline.com/BBall_Report_Week2.pdf)
11/20 - W&L's Kristen Krouchik named ODAC's Player of the Week (http://www.odaconline.com/BBall_Report_Week1.pdf)
11/9 - Bridgewater tops ODAC women's hoops preseason poll (http://www.odaconline.com/0607wbbpoll.htm)
11/9 - Eagles' Katy Herr-Lovell named D3hoops.com preseason All-America (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables.php?item=785)
11/2 - Bridgewater ranked No. 21 in D3hoops.com preseason top 25 (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables.php?item=778)
10/31 - USA Today/ESPN/WBCA preseason poll ranks BC No. 18 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/womensbasketball/d3poll.htm)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 29, 2006, 04:41:54 pm
Big game tonight versus the preseason ODAC no. 1 and no. 2.  After looking over the stats from VWC's first three games, in particular their last two, it seems they have having trouble rebounding the ball, making shots, and blocking shots.  They are being outrebounded by 15 a game, they are shooting less than 40% from the field, and they only blocked two shots.

If BC can control the boards and play good defense, we should be OK.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: upper90 on November 29, 2006, 07:17:48 pm
can anyone provide some updates on the bridgewater/vw game?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 29, 2006, 09:09:18 pm
can anyone provide some updates on the bridgewater/vw game?

Don't know the final but BC was up ~10pts with a minute to go. It was 32-28 at the half. BC had almost 30 turnovers, but VWC missed almost as many layups.  :o

Sounds like a typical 2nd game of the season to me. Onward and upward. ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on November 29, 2006, 09:40:52 pm
BC 66
VWC 50

BC did not play well at all during periods of the game. However, they played good enough to get the W!

Katy Herr Lovell once again led this team. Lovell had a double-double with 12 points and 10 rebounds, she also had six assists and five steals and probably about six or seven scrappy plays where she forced a jump ball. Jessica Timberlake had a career high of 18 points to lead the Eagles in the scoring column.

WAY TO GO EAGLES!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on November 29, 2006, 10:35:24 pm
I was dissapointed at the sportsmenship tonight at the BC v. VWC game....I never posted last year but I read about BC and VWC and the "kicking" incident of Michelle Dove. These are two very physical teams, but VWC seems to like to take cheap shots. Dove threw a very blatant elbow which ignited the home crowd and another girl stuck out her leg to cause a trip which also got the home crowd going, and there were several other incidents. The Eagles weren't perfect either with some very hard fouls, but I was dissapointed with VWC. I am from that area and hoped they would represent my home town better then that. I guess things have changed since I played, but good, hard, physical basketball does not equal cheap shots. When I am home I'll be seeing some more Marlins games, and I hope they play just as physical as they did tonight, but I hope they cut out the cheap shots.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on November 29, 2006, 10:53:08 pm
Uh-oh :o!

If I recall correctly, any talk of poor sportsmenship about VWC will stir up some of those Marlins!

Maybe that will be a good thing and some people will start posting on this board!

Good Job to BC today without starting Center Becca Henderson. Sophomore Jennifer Saunders started tonight in place of Henderson and played big with 10 points and 8 rebounds. Saunders also has the flu and missed yesterday's practice because she was sick!

Also, heck of a job by Katy Herr Lovell! She doesn't always score that much, but boy does she know how to run that point position!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 29, 2006, 11:51:23 pm
I was at the BC/VWC game tonight ... it was painful to watch the Marlins shoot.  They missed 70% of them! :o

I liked Thurston (#40) and Jones (#25).  Thurston was their vocal leader and played with the most emotion.  Very active under the rim.  Jones, only a freshman (or like VWC says it: "first year player" lol), was explosive and gave the Marlins a boost off the bench.  I can see her working her way into the starting lineup this season.

Other than those two, it wasn't pretty.  The rest of the team shot 17% from the floor.

For BC, I liked the lift Timberlake gave off the bench.  Amazing how we only played seven players, but still shot nearly 50% from the floor, 33% from behind the arc, and 77% from the foul line.  I think once we get Henderson back, and perhaps another player works their way into the rotation, we'll have a nice nine-player rotation once the postseason rolls around.  Sure we had 25 turnovers tonight - but it was only our second game of the year.  That'll improve.

I do think R-MC, EMU and Roanoke will be better tests for Bridgewater than VWC was.  I think Morgan (R-MC), Riley (EMU), and Hanson (RC), will be three of the best players in the conference.  Should be a fun season!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 01, 2006, 10:19:11 am
is it really that bad being a fan at an ODAC school other than VWC? I mean i understand everyone has all their heritage and history that they are so proud and now they are all getting their butts kicked by the bastard child on the coast but get over it. I didn't see the bridgewater game but it's always funny to me what "bad sports" VWC teams always are and how "perfect" every other team in the ODAC is and how they NEVER do anything wrong. I know you guys must be getting sick of seeing us win at everything, and we understand, but you should be getting used to it by now so it's time to just start admitting to yourself that we have better athletes and better coaches and that is why we win. I know women's basketball is one of the few remaining sports we don't completely dominate in year in and year out but it must scare the stuff out of you that a team that won only 5 games just 3 years ago was preseason picked 2nd in the league. Not to mention the fact that they played their first conference game on the road without their leading scorer from last year, shot 29% from the floor for the game and 24% from the floor in the 2nd half and where never "out" of the game. So how do you guys make yourselves feel better? Find two "incidents" that you may or may not have imagined and talk about how "dirty" the VWC team is. Like i said I didn't see the game but I looked at the box score and aside from the poor shooting from the Marlins here are some other things I noticed. Fouls VWC 18 BC 16 technical fouls VWC 0, intentional fouls VWC 0, flagrant fouls VWC 0....Those dirty, dirty Marlins...... I hope Roanoke and W&L packed some football gear for this weekend......GET OVER IT!... Happy Valleybball fan? you got your response....
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on December 01, 2006, 12:58:51 pm
 ;D I am happy! Just a little controversial comment that was given by a fellow Virginia Beacher was all that was needed to bring a little fire to the board. Way to take that comment way oout of line. I belive odac fan 4 life mentioned both teams being very rough, and who knows? maybe odac fan 4 life just needs to stick to sports like golf and tennis where there is not contact? I think by the sound of your post you have some security issues, and by your karma you have some problems expressing those issues ;D I said nothing of the sportsmenship....only one person did....and they claim to be from VA Beach...but I guess you are right, vwcbeachbum....everyone is out to get ya'll ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 01, 2006, 01:03:55 pm
is it really that bad being a fan at an ODAC school other than VWC? I mean i understand everyone has all their heritage and history that they are so proud and now they are all getting their butts kicked by the bastard child on the coast but get over it. I didn't see the bridgewater game but it's always funny to me what "bad sports" VWC teams always are and how "perfect" every other team in the ODAC is and how they NEVER do anything wrong. I know you guys must be getting sick of seeing us win at everything, and we understand, but you should be getting used to it by now so it's time to just start admitting to yourself that we have better athletes and better coaches and that is why we win. I know women's basketball is one of the few remaining sports we don't completely dominate in year in and year out but it must scare the stuff out of you that a team that won only 5 games just 3 years ago was preseason picked 2nd in the league. Not to mention the fact that they played their first conference game on the road without their leading scorer from last year, shot 29% from the floor for the game and 24% from the floor in the 2nd half and where never "out" of the game. So how do you guys make yourselves feel better? Find two "incidents" that you may or may not have imagined and talk about how "dirty" the VWC team is. Like i said I didn't see the game but I looked at the box score and aside from the poor shooting from the Marlins here are some other things I noticed. Fouls VWC 18 BC 16 technical fouls VWC 0, intentional fouls VWC 0, flagrant fouls VWC 0....Those dirty, dirty Marlins...... I hope Roanoke and W&L packed some football gear for this weekend......GET OVER IT!... Happy Valleybball fan? you got your response....


*yawn*

Okay, you just won a national men's baskeball title, and you've been dominate (in the ODAC) in softball and men's soccer.  You don't play nearly half the sports other ODAC schools play.  So I'm not quite sure what you mean by this:

I know you guys must be getting sick of seeing us win at everything, and we understand, but you should be getting used to it by now so it's time to just start admitting to yourself that we have better athletes and better coaches and that is why we win.

What does this have to do with women's basketball?  Your post would have made more sense had you come on and said something like...

I know you guys must be getting sick of seeing us be so overrated in women's basketball. Last year we were overhyped and ended up losing in the first round of the ODAC tournament as the third-seed. And this year it is a joke that we be picked number two in the ODAC above schools like Roanoke and Randolph-Macon.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 01, 2006, 03:18:08 pm
Of course I'm just giving you a hard time, vwcbeachbum. :)

Thanks for posting ... please continue. I hvae a feeling this board will be dead until BC loses. :-\
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 01, 2006, 04:25:10 pm
don't worry about me you can't hurt my feelings, Karma or no karma. I am interested to see how the Marlins respond tonight after the loss to BC. Hopefully the poor shooting the other night was a fluke rather than the norm. Oh by the way you left out Women's Soccer, and Baseball two more sports that we are annually dominant in, and our field hockey team isn't that bad, and women's lacrosse team has been pretty good, and our Volleyball team while only a few years old has continued to get better and compete in the tournament, now that i think about it there isn't much that we aren't good at ;) I guess you still have track and cross country to cheer for!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 01, 2006, 10:31:07 pm
VWC 75 Noke 67 in OT.. sorry i don't have any incidents of bad sportsmanship to report to anyone. ;D It was a very tough hard fought game. VWC took an 8 point lead into the half then went the 1st five min of the second half without scoring. Erin Hanson 12 boards / 18 points not much help from Cind McGraw 0-9 from the floor. VWC had 5 players in double figures and got great games from Michelle Dove 1f points 8 assists, and Andrea Ushinski 13 boards, 15 points, 5 assists and Jill Weston 6-9 from the floor 13 points. VW shot 38% from the floor which would have been enough to beat BC on Wed. Very interesting score in Ashland......I could definitely see Roanoke winning tmrw at Macon
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacfan99 on December 01, 2006, 11:22:39 pm
RMC 66  W&L 64    WOW what a comeback by the Generals!  The game was close the first 15 minutes then RMC went on a run to take an 11 point lead into the locker room at the :00 mark of the first half.  RMC continued to pour it on early in the second half and quickly expanded the lead to 17.  Then the lead began to crumble.  W&L kept pecking away and cut the lead to two on a couple of occasions before pulling to within 1 with about a minute left to play.  With the score 66-64, W&L had the ball with seconds left and had two close range scoring chances under the basket.  Reisbeck cleanly blocked the first lay-up attempt out of bounds giving the ball back to W&L with 2 seconds left on the clock - enough time for an in bounds pass underneath and another well defended 5 foot shot that was off the mark.  The Generals played some tough man-to-man D and if they hadn't missed a few easy lay-ups and/or hadn't turned the ball over 31 times (YIKES!) they would have stolen one at Crenshaw.  RMC won with some tough D of their own, a balanced scoring attack (Arial 10 points, Childress 9, four players with 8 each and Shiflett with 7) and a little bit of luck.  I must say the officiating was pretty bad with very questionable calls (and no calls) against both teams at key moments in the game.  Roanoke should prove a real challenge for the Jackets tomorrow.  Then next up, a road trip to VWC on Wednesday.  We'll know just how good this team is over the next few games....
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 02, 2006, 12:54:44 am
don't worry about me you can't hurt my feelings, Karma or no karma. I am interested to see how the Marlins respond tonight after the loss to BC. Hopefully the poor shooting the other night was a fluke rather than the norm. Oh by the way you left out Women's Soccer, and Baseball two more sports that we are annually dominant in, and our field hockey team isn't that bad, and women's lacrosse team has been pretty good, and our Volleyball team while only a few years old has continued to get better and compete in the tournament, now that i think about it there isn't much that we aren't good at ;) I guess you still have track and cross country to cheer for!


I'll give you baseball (six ODAC titles), albeit all since 1997 (so you haven't always been dominant) ... but women's soccer?  Where is that coming from?  No conference titles since it began in 1983.

And no ... "we" don't still have track and cross country.  Those sports are for Lynchburg.

Point is ... this is a women's basketball thread.  It doesn't say much for your women's basketball program when you're on here touting other sports at the school.

Nice win against Roanoke tonight.  But 38% from the floor still won't cut it against a great team.  And for the record (I went ahead and did the math for you), had you made 38% of your shots against Bridgewater (five more made field goals) - you still would have lost 66-60.  Shoot, I'll even make them all three-pointers: 66-65.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 02, 2006, 07:45:18 am
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but women's soccer?  Where is that coming from?  No conference titles since it began in 1983.


Just for the record last 6 years.....107-31-14 over all, 61-9-7 in the ODAC, this year ODAC Champions, 3 NCAA appearance including trips to the elite 8 and final four.......

But your right this is a basketball thread, the point of the whole thing was that women's basketball has been one of the few sports in the past that you didn't have to concern yourselves with getting beat in......

A math major huh, thanks for doing that for me, did you add in the momentum that making just a few of those shots might of added, and the fact that on a made basket VWC could have set up their defense? All I am saying is that a "normal" shooting night that game is a LOT closer than the final score indicated.

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...... And this year it is a joke that we be picked number two in the ODAC above schools like Roanoke and Randolph-Macon.

Got one of them ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 02, 2006, 03:42:20 pm
Bridgewater 66
Eastern Mennonite 46


Nice win by the Eagles today.  They held the Royals to 25% shooting from the field, including Carolyn Riley to 3-for-15.  Timberlake had another huge game with 17 points.  Herr-Lovell had 11 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists, and 3 steals.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 03, 2006, 09:01:45 am
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I could definitely see Roanoke winning tmrw at Macon

You guys must hate that I am going to be right all the time....

Another good game for the Marlins 66-54 Final over W&L and th generals hit a long meaningless three at the buzzer to make it that close. 14 points 13 boards from Thurston, 12 points from Ushinski and 11 from Jones. Macon comes to "The fish tank" on Wed. A win then and I will start accepting apologies. :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 03, 2006, 10:53:10 am
Macon comes to "The fish tank" on Wed. A win then and I will start accepting apologies. :)

A loss and then what?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on December 03, 2006, 05:26:41 pm
"The fish tank" on Wed. A win then and I will start accepting apologies.


Apologies for what??? Wow, you sure are full of yourself! So, if you are always right, you predicted Bridgewater over VA. Wes. by 16 the other night, right?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: waterlucy on December 03, 2006, 06:50:33 pm
RMC is finding out what life without Silva is like.  After a near miss to a sloppy W & L team (32 turnovers), they suffered a resounding loss to Roanoke.  It seems to be almost anybody's game this year.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 03, 2006, 07:43:19 pm
Did I think VW would go into BC without one of thier leading scores and beat the Eagles? not really. do I think that at full strength away from that cracker jack box you guys call a gym that VWC can beat BC, YES, and before the year is over THEY WILL!

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A loss and then what?

Then for another few days you guys will be happy because all of you will have something to talk about, since the only thing that seems to  make you happy in life is seeing the Marlins be unsuccesful........
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on December 03, 2006, 08:58:27 pm
Did I think VW would go into BC without one of thier leading scores and beat the Eagles? not really. do I think that at full strength away from that cracker jack box you guys call a gym that VWC can beat BC, YES, and before the year is over THEY WILL!

What is wrong with Heather Phillips and when will she back? And what is wrong with Ninger, you know, the cracker jack box gym. I am sure that was a determing factor in the Marlins loss :D

You know that when BC played Virginia Wes. they also were missing a starter in 6'2 Becca Henderson who last year averaged  5.1 points. 5.7 reb. and 1.4 blocks as a freshmen and was looking much improved in the preseason before going down in the first game with an ankle injury.


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A loss and then what?

Then for another few days you guys will be happy because all of you will have something to talk about, since the only thing that seems to  make you happy in life is seeing the Marlins be unsuccesful........

I don't understand why people do not cheer for the Marlins. I mean, they are so good at all of their sports, have athletes that exemplify sportsmenship (just like two other athletes from that area...I think their last name was Vick?), and they have the classiest fans just like you are portraying. I am absolutley puzzled as to why, as you state, everyone is out to get poor old VWC?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 03, 2006, 09:50:18 pm
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You know that when BC played Virginia Wes. they also were missing a starter in 6'2 Becca Henderson


Yeah that is a fair comparison to Heather Phillips. Ok so she is 6'2, i give her that... Last year in the two game ve VWC Henderson had a total of 6 points and 13 boards, Heather Phillips 22 points and 32 boards.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 03, 2006, 10:19:11 pm
RMC is finding out what life without Silva is like.  After a near miss to a sloppy W & L team (32 turnovers), they suffered a resounding loss to Roanoke.  It seems to be almost anybody's game this year.

Don't worry, everyone knows R-MC will be the ODAC champs until they are knocked off their thrown at season's end.  A regular season loss or two doesn't change that.  Silva or no Silva, the Jackets have earned the title as top dog in the ODAC ... and I expect that to remain throughout the season.

Keep in mind the Jackets have a freshman and two sophomores as their top three scorers to begin the season. 6-foot-2 Molly Ariail (the freshman) leads the team with 12.5 points, 7.5 rebounds, and 2.8 blocks per game - and she hasn't even started one of them (yet).

With their youth, it'll take some time for them to jell.  Kudos to Roanoke for going to Ashland and picking up the win!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 03, 2006, 10:32:10 pm
I'm looking forward to seeing W&L on Tuesday.  The Generals have had a brutal schedule to begin the season, so their 3-3 record is deceiving.  Five of six games have been away from home, with a tough five-day stretch.

They played AT R-MC (lost by two), AT VWC (game was tied w/ 8 minutes left) and then they will be AT BC this Tuesday.  That's against preseason No. 3, No. 2, and No. 1, respectively. :o
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 05, 2006, 04:12:12 pm
Just thinking about my alma mater Guilford's two decisive wins over RMWC and HU this past weekend.  Guilford appears to be a middle-of-the-pack ODAC team this year, so I assume Hollins and the Wildcats will take similar lopsided losses to most other ODAC teams.  I have empathy for them and would hope they could be more competitive.  To me, these two schools clearly need to strengthen their programs some, but I was wondering if there are other, more fundamental, issues.   Perhaps this is premature and just a one-year aberration, but are they in the right league?  Sure, the ODAC is a great geographic fit, but no one enjoys playing games with this much disparity.  Are they in the right conference philosophically and athletically?   Peace
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 05, 2006, 04:15:09 pm
RMC is finding out what life without Silva is like.  After a near miss to a sloppy W & L team (32 turnovers), they suffered a resounding loss to Roanoke.  It seems to be almost anybody's game this year.

Don't worry, everyone knows R-MC will be the ODAC champs until they are knocked off their thrown at season's end.
I agree, I think the defending champ (with or without Silva) is assumed to repeat on the throne until (or if) they lose.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on December 05, 2006, 08:35:03 pm
I'm looking forward to seeing W&L on Tuesday.  The Generals have had a brutal schedule to begin the season, so their 3-3 record is deceiving.  Five of six games have been away from home, with a tough five-day stretch.

They played AT R-MC (lost by two), AT VWC (game was tied w/ 8 minutes left) and then they will be AT BC this Tuesday.  That's against preseason No. 3, No. 2, and No. 1, respectively. :o

Bridgewater won easily after a 6pt lead at the half!

 Bridgewater  78         W&L 56    Final
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on December 05, 2006, 09:36:48 pm
BC won easily with great games by Shannon Scales and Katy Herr Lovell. Scales had 7 three-pointers as she finished with a career high 25 points, and Lovell finished with another complete game, recording 19 points, 9 assists, and 5 steals. Amy Childs also had a good game with 10 points and 9 rebounds, while Jessica Timberlake and Jessica Young each chipped in 8 point.

BC's defense held Jessica Hunsinger to only 9 points.

For the third time in only four games BC has had a different player lead this team. This is what makes the Eagles so dangerous is that there are several players very capable of stepping up and leading this team.


Also, Roanoke lost tonight at EMU by 2, 56-54. I think other then Erin Hanson, Roanoke just does not have a lot of depth. Every team in the ODAC has at least one loss except for Bridgewater, it should be a good year with a lot of even teams.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on December 06, 2006, 12:06:03 am
BC won easily with great games by Shannon Scales and Katy Herr Lovell. Scales had 7 three-pointers as she finished with a career high 25 points, and Lovell finished with another complete game, recording 19 points, 9 assists, and 5 steals. Amy Childs also had a good game with 10 points and 9 rebounds, while Jessica Timberlake and Jessica Young each chipped in 8 point.

BC's defense held Jessica Hunsinger to only 9 points.

For the third time in only four games BC has had a different player lead this team. This is what makes the Eagles so dangerous is that there are several players very capable of stepping up and leading this team.


Also, Roanoke lost tonight at EMU by 2, 56-54. I think other then Erin Hanson, Roanoke just does not have a lot of depth. Every team in the ODAC has at least one loss except for Bridgewater, it should be a good year with a lot of even teams.

Looks like BC's first big test will be Sienna Heights at the Hoops N Surf Classic in Hawaii!
They are an NAIA team that is 8-1 with several wins over D3 competion.  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on December 06, 2006, 10:37:02 am
I'm looking forward to seeing W&L on Tuesday.  The Generals have had a brutal schedule to begin the season, so their 3-3 record is deceiving.  Five of six games have been away from home, with a tough five-day stretch.

They played AT R-MC (lost by two), AT VWC (game was tied w/ 8 minutes left) and then they will be AT BC this Tuesday.  That's against preseason No. 3, No. 2, and No. 1, respectively. :o

Bridgewater won easily after a 6pt lead at the half!

 Bridgewater  78         W&L 56    Final
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on December 06, 2006, 10:42:50 am
W & L hung around a little while - but once Bridgewater started  to press they folded like a house of cards.  That seems to be the key to playing the Generals.  Shannon Scales was also left unchecked.  Great game Eagles.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on December 06, 2006, 01:20:03 pm
I saw the EMU vs. Roanoke game last night where the Royals knocked off Erin Hanson and the Maroons 56-54. This came just one game after Roanoke defeated #22 RMC by 13! I was pulling for EMU, and they got a well balanced effort from a number of their players to record a good quality win, but here is what I saw with Roanoke....

They did not impress me very much. I think Hanson is an outstanding player, although I think she tries to do too much. She leads the league in scoring, but she also shoots the ball more then anyone in the league and she tries to force the ball too much, which is why she is averaging nearly 5 turnovers a game. Other then Hanson, the rest of the players are inconsistent. Cindy McGraw has exploded for some big games, but in their loss to VWC she only had 3 points on 0-9 shooting, and last night she had just 2 points on 1-9 shooting!

Also, Roanoke seems sloppy with the ball. I know the season is young, but after 6 games they have 132 turnovers, that's 26 turnovers a game! They also are ranked 8th in the league in both assist-turnover ration and turnover margin.

I think Roanoke is a mediocre team, but what is great about that? A mediocre team with one outstanding player was able to knock off #22 RMC! I think the league will be very even this year which will turn into some good basketball!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on December 06, 2006, 07:02:03 pm
Getting ready to listen to the R-MC/VWC game... should be a VERY good match up!

Let's Go Jackets  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on December 06, 2006, 07:46:10 pm
Kudos to whoever is doing play by play and color down at the VWC game... very much appreciated!
Live stats aren't up because of technical difficulties.... and of course my computer decided to kick me off of Windows Media Player with 13 seconds to go in the 1st half. So I'm not sure exactly what the score is... last time I heard, I believe VWC was up 34-31 and had possession.
So needless to say, a VERY close game.

Go Jackets!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on December 06, 2006, 08:22:21 pm
53-49 RMC 9:45 to go
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on December 06, 2006, 08:41:14 pm
12.3 seconds to go... VWC on the line for a... they're up 1... LaHaye calls timeout
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on December 06, 2006, 08:41:46 pm
12.3 seconds to go... VWC on the line for a... they're up 1... LaHaye calls timeout

***VWC on the line for a 1&1***
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on December 06, 2006, 08:44:32 pm
VWC over R-MC... 70-67
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on December 06, 2006, 08:45:34 pm
70-67 Marlins win over Jackets.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 06, 2006, 09:40:53 pm
I have to say, I like seeing the Marlins beat teams like Roanoke and Randolph-Macon.  Having not seen either, this bodes well for my nerves before we face the Maroons and Jackets.

I wasn't all that impressed with VWC ... Bridgewater didn't play that great of a game, and still comfortably won.  I'm not suggesting the Eagles can go 20-0 in the ODAC, but I do think we're going to have to beat ourselves to lose.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 06, 2006, 10:00:51 pm
The Eagles have their toughest game of the young season tomorrow night against Ferrum.  I'm looking forward to seeing how we play against a really fast team.

Following that, two games in Hawaii against Siena Heights and George Fox.  The next three non-conference opponents have a combined 18-4 record.

Excellent scheduling by the BC coaching staff.  Win or lose, the next three games can only help for our stretch run in the ODAC after the first of the year.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 06, 2006, 11:36:06 pm
Let me see here, wins over Roanloke and Macon, that puts the MArlins in ummmm Oh yeah second ahead of both of those teams. S L O P P Y ball with 34 tunrovers tonight for the Marlins and still able to pull off the W. VWC shot 53% from the floor, just think what they might have done if they had not thrown the ball to the Jackets 34 times. Good nights again from Thurston, Ushinski, Dove, and Barrett. Also Heather Phillips returned to the court for some limited action so the Marlins will only get better as she gets back into playing shape........ Please direct all posts to www.Itoldyouso.com :) WAY TO GO MARLINS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on December 07, 2006, 12:33:45 am
Let me see here, wins over Roanloke and Macon, that puts the MArlins in ummmm Oh yeah second ahead of both of those teams. S L O P P Y ball with 34 tunrovers tonight for the Marlins and still able to pull off the W. VWC shot 53% from the floor, just think what they might have done if they had not thrown the ball to the Jackets 34 times. Good nights again from Thurston, Ushinski, Dove, and Barrett. Also Heather Phillips returned to the court for some limited action so the Marlins will only get better as she gets back into playing shape........ Please direct all posts to www.Itoldyouso.com  :) WAY TO GO MARLINS!!!!!!!!

(Yawn)  ::)     

Let me guess, still be in 2ND PLACE?

Somebody wake me up when the Mighty Marlins beat a team in the Top 25!  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 07, 2006, 10:23:07 am
Nice 70-57 comeback win for Guilford over E&H last night!  Quakers were down 43-28 with 15 minutes to go, but had a 23-2 run to go up 51-45.  GC is now 3-0 in the conference and 4-4 overall.  Doubleheader at home with the Maroons on Saturday.  Women at 2 and men at 4.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 07, 2006, 11:20:10 am
Let me see here, wins over Roanloke and Macon, that puts the MArlins in ummmm Oh yeah second ahead of both of those teams. S L O P P Y ball with 34 tunrovers tonight for the Marlins and still able to pull off the W. VWC shot 53% from the floor, just think what they might have done if they had not thrown the ball to the Jackets 34 times. Good nights again from Thurston, Ushinski, Dove, and Barrett. Also Heather Phillips returned to the court for some limited action so the Marlins will only get better as she gets back into playing shape........ Please direct all posts to www.Itoldyouso.com  :) WAY TO GO MARLINS!!!!!!!!

(Yawn)  ::)     

Let me guess, still be in 2ND PLACE?

Somebody wake me up when the Mighty Marlins beat a team in the Top 25!  ;)

Shhh, c'mon Llama ... let the Marlins be good at something when it comes to women's basketball.  They're good at home and bad on the road.

Last year, they went 9-1 at home in the ODAC, only 5-5 away from the Batten Center.  So far this year, 3-0 at home ... 0-1 on the road.

I'm sure they have February 10 circled (well, at least vwcbum does), but a very telling conference stretch for them will be the first week of 2007 on the road at W&L, E&H, and GC.

The Marlins will get their Top 25 competition against No. 22 Lake Forest in Hawaii on December 17.  The Eagles will also have a tough test in Hawaii against Siena Heights (8-1) who is currently receiving votes in the NAIA.org Division II poll.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 07, 2006, 09:25:01 pm
Just got back from the Ferrum-BC game.  WOW :o

I've never seen a team shoot that well.  I think it was with 6 minutes to go in the game, the Eagles were shooting 74% from the field (I was informed by the SID).  Unreal.  Everyone was on fire.  At one point, Scales and Timberlake were both 9-for-12 from the field.  Yes, both.  That mean they were a combined 18-of-24. :o

At the half, BC was up 51-30.  Ferrum had really quick guards (the twins really impressed me).  The Panthers had a nice squad, they just ran into a really hot Eagles team.  I loved at the end of the game the "statement sub" by BC.  I think we had gone out to a 26-point lead or so, and so we emptied the bench.  Well, Ferrum (as they probably should have - not quit) kept their starters in the remainder of the game and pressed our freshmen and sophomores.  The lead quickly went down to 12 or so ... then Coach Willi called the dogs back in with a minute left to break the press.  Great move ... I bet the Ferrum Coach was hoping he'd get to go home with it under 10 and make it look like they hung with us all night.

Anyway, great game for BC before they head off to Hawaii.  I think the final was 92-75.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pray4Surf on December 09, 2006, 05:40:18 pm
The Virginia Wesleyan Marlins beat RMWC 117 - 60!!! VWC shot 59.5% from the floor including 61.9% from beyond the 3 point arc. VWC was led by freshman Tonia Jones with 16 points. The marlins looked extremely good today and this seemed to be a good game to help them gear up for there Hoop N Surf classic against Lake Forest! Great Game Marlins!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on December 09, 2006, 06:05:22 pm
Every Marlin player in uniform scored, 10 different Marlins hit a three pointer, no one played more then 19 min in the game. If there is any such thing as a "classy a$$ kicking" that was it.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCAlum30 on December 09, 2006, 10:17:18 pm
R-MC with the win over EMU tonight!!! Glad I could make the trip to Harrisonburg to see my girls play. The final score was 62-53. It was a good game overall -- the Jackets seem to be working together much better. I think the major thing they need to work on is their boxing out and crashing the boards. Other than that, things looked pretty good  :)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on December 09, 2006, 10:58:04 pm
The Virginia Wesleyan Marlins beat RMWC 117 - 60!!! VWC shot 59.5% from the floor including 61.9% from beyond the 3 point arc. VWC was led by freshman Tonia Jones with 16 points. The marlins looked extremely good today and this seemed to be a good game to help them gear up for there Hoop N Surf classic against Lake Forest! Great Game Marlins!!!

Interesting that BC & VWU both will be out there. Obviously they will be cheering for each other as well as getting a free scouting trip.  :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on December 10, 2006, 12:26:22 pm
R-MC with the win over EMU tonight!!! . The final score was 62-53. It was a good game overall -- the Jackets seem to be working together much better. I think the major thing they need to work on is their boxing out and crashing the boards. Other than that, things looked pretty good  :)

I think RMC is finding some chemistry after losing Silva and Orton.
I expect them to be one of the better ODAC teams by season end, but still think BC is the favorite this year.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on December 10, 2006, 12:28:14 pm
GC d. RC, 68-61 yesterday
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on December 13, 2006, 11:49:09 pm
The BC Eagles had an awesome week last week with two big wins over W&L and Ferrum!

They were recognized for that this week as Shannon Scales was named ODAC player of the week as she scored 25 points against W&L shooting 7-of-8 from three-point land, and scored 26 points against Ferrum hitting 3-of-4 from three-point land! She shot 71% for the week, including 83% from long range!

Katy Herr-Lovell was named to the d3Hoops National Team of the Week. Lovell had 19 points, 9 assists, and 5 steals against W&L, and finished the week with a double-double against Ferrum scoring 20 points and dishing out 10 assists. She also had 5 steals that game and shot 56% from the field for the week!

As a team, the Eagles improved to 5-0 on the year and moved up two spots in the d3Hoops rankings to #17 in the nation.

The Eagles leave tonight (or tomorrow morning rather) at 2:30 in the morning for Hawaii where they will play in the Hoop and Surf Basketball Classic!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: swiss on December 16, 2006, 10:40:59 pm
They were recognized for that this week as Shannon Scales was named ODAC player of the week as she scored 25 points against W&L shooting 7-of-8 from three-point land, and scored 26 points against Ferrum hitting 3-of-4 from three-point land! She shot 71% for the week, including 83% from long range!

Does she always shoot like that?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on December 17, 2006, 01:49:03 pm
For the season Shannon Scales is shooting 64% (18-for-28) from three-point range and for the season she is shooting 53% (33-for-62).

She has always been one of Bridgewater's top shooters in her four years as an Eagle, but this season she is off to an especially hot start.

The Eagles have several weapons that have the potential to get hot, and that is what makes them dangerous.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on December 17, 2006, 05:22:14 pm
Bridgewater         58

Sienna Heights    44

The Eagles improve to 6-0 after knocking off NAIA school Sienna Heights. With the loss Sienna Heights goes to 9-2 on the year.

Amy Childs led Bridgewater with 14 points (the 4th different Eagle to lead BC in scoring this year) while Shannon Scales and Katy Herr Lovell each chipped in 12 points.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on December 17, 2006, 06:02:48 pm
Roanoke   50
Adrian       65

Roanoke drops to 3-5 on the year after losing today to Adrian at the Fort Lauderdale Tournament.

Erin Hanson once again led Roanoke as she was the only Maroon in double digits, 16 points and 11 rebounds. Hanson, however, was cold from the floor shooting as she shot only 29% (5-for-17).
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on December 17, 2006, 08:07:17 pm
Okay...so we know how BC and RC did in their respective tournament openers....how about VWC? Any one know any results?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pray4Surf on December 17, 2006, 10:12:27 pm
VWC lost not sure what the score was though
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on December 18, 2006, 12:07:07 am
Lake Forest  80
VA Wes         56
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 18, 2006, 09:59:11 am
The BC-SH box score is linked after the story on the Bridgewater site:

http://bridgewater.edu/index.php?id=856

Herr Lovell finished with 12 points, 10 rebounds, 7 steals and 4 assists.

The Eagles didn't start pulling away until five minutes left in the game.  They did so even though they shot only 2-of-14 from behind the arc (Scales was 0-for-8).  The BC defense held Siena Heights to 29% shooting from the floor, and forced them into 25 turnovers.

BC will have another big test against George Fox today.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on December 18, 2006, 10:54:46 am
That is now three double-doubles for Katy Herr Lovell so far on the season....and two other games she just barely missed hitting a double-double (vs. W&L 19 pnts and 9 assists, and then vs. EMU 11 pnts. 9 rebounds)

Pretty good start to the season I'd say


And Erin Hanson is having a tremendous start also for Roanoke....too bad the Maroons are struggling thus far
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on December 19, 2006, 03:39:16 am
Bridgewater falls to George Fox 57-41 for their first loss of the season in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 19, 2006, 08:13:14 am
Bridgewater falls to George Fox 57-41 for their first loss of the season in Hawaii.

Bound to happen at some point.  Better out of conference than in.

I'm sure Coach Willi, Justice and Wade will have these girls learn from this loss and be ready to roll come January 3.

I give local teams like VWC, CNU and BC a lot of credit for traveling so far for games on back-to-back nights.  I'm sure it's tough to get your body ready only a day after being there.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: swiss on December 19, 2006, 10:07:59 am
Bridgewater falls to George Fox 57-41 for their first loss of the season in Hawaii.

I'm sure it's tough to get your body ready only a day after being there.

Do you suppose that was the difference?  GFU played the day before and lost to UW-Whitewater, but GFU dominated the boards against BC 42 to 27.  Is that BC's weakness?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on December 19, 2006, 10:49:24 am


Do you suppose that was the difference?  GFU played the day before and lost to UW-Whitewater, but GFU dominated the boards against BC 42 to 27.  Is that BC's weakness?

Bridgewater has done a decent job on the boards, but yes, if you want to point out a weakness that might be one of their few.

In their 7 games this season they have outrebounded four of the teams they played, and have been outrebounded in three of the games. This most recent game against George Fox they were outrebounded badly, but also badly undersized. George Fox has 6 girls on their roster that are 6'0 or taller. Also, Bridgewater has been without their only six-footer, Becca Henderson, until this tournament where she has only seen limited minutes.

Bridgewater played awful it sounds like against George Fox, but Matt is right, hopefully they will use this positively and be ready to get back at it starting in January.

Great start to the season ladies!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 19, 2006, 11:24:36 am
Bridgewater falls to George Fox 57-41 for their first loss of the season in Hawaii.

I'm sure it's tough to get your body ready only a day after being there.

Do you suppose that was the difference?  GFU played the day before and lost to UW-Whitewater, but GFU dominated the boards against BC 42 to 27.  Is that BC's weakness?

Our starting center has only played in the last two games ... three minutes against Siena and eight against George.  Having her back and healthy come the stretch run will certainly help.

Seeing that George Fox is in Oregon, and VWC, BC and CNU are in Virginia, they have a lot shorter trip to Hawai'i than the VA schools did.  Not saying that's the only reason we lost ... but I'm sure it played a part.  We only turned the ball over 12 times (to George Fox's 23) ... we just couldn't shoot (which is uncharacteristic).  So I'd definitely say we just didn't have any legs.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on December 19, 2006, 11:25:09 am
BTW, the story and box score are posted on BC's site:

http://www.bridgewater.edu/index.php?id=856
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on December 19, 2006, 03:45:17 pm
There were four Va teams there Matt    ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on December 28, 2006, 06:47:49 pm
RMC wins today out in CA in the Surf City Classic 70-68 against Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.  They play Vanguard University of CA next on Saturday (currently ranked #1 in the NAIA DI with 7-0 record).  Live stats from game only available until next game starts at 10:30 tonight.

http://www.vanguard.edu/athletics/wbasketball/detail.aspx?doc_id=11890 (http://www.vanguard.edu/athletics/wbasketball/detail.aspx?doc_id=11890)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on December 30, 2006, 06:52:25 pm
RMC beat bad by Vanguard 94-62. :'(  Hard to make a comparison here. Vanguard is 8-0, rated #1 in NAIA Division I ( schloarship program). Comparable to NCAA Div I or II ? Lot of 6 footers on team.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: y_jack_lok on January 01, 2007, 12:34:37 pm
GAVA, here is an excerpt from a post today by Pat Coleman on the Midwest SLIAC men's board regarding the relationship between NAIA D1 and NCAA D3. I would imagine the same applies to women's teams.

"The thing about the NAIA divisions is that they are not very large. There are fewer than 100 teams total in NAIA Division I -- 88 listed on the NAIA site, in fact. A top 25 of NAIA Division I would be like if we ranked a Top 80 or so of D-III.

The top 5 or so in NAIA Division I are normally considered unwinnable games for D-IIIs. But the rest, ehh, not so much."
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 01, 2007, 04:21:03 pm
 
 
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D3 vs.

D1....0-31
D2....6-54
NAIA 1....18-31
NAIA 2....64-49
NCCAA 1....5-5
NCCAA 2....27-4
USCAA....34-17
Other....38-4

(Totals through 12/21)
 
From the men's boards. While the NAIA are small ( about 100 school ) divisions, the DI offers athletic scholarships and the players tend to be bigger and better than NCAA D3.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 01, 2007, 07:36:59 pm
Both levels of the NAIA offer scholarships.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: roaring0506 on January 01, 2007, 08:01:52 pm
NAIA D-1 offer 10 scholarships... NAIA D-2 offers 6 scholarships.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: y_jack_lok on January 01, 2007, 08:23:17 pm
Full scholarships or partial scholarships?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 01, 2007, 08:39:59 pm
I am pretty sure they can split them up however they like. That's pretty standard procedure.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 02, 2007, 08:33:42 pm
Washington and Lee currently down 20 points - cannot handle Marlins intense pressure.  Turnovers, turnovers.......Two teams with a great deal of talent don't look very equal.  VWC looking good in the new year.  The streak continues.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 05, 2007, 01:58:26 pm
Katy Herr Lovell is just 8 points away from scoring her 1,000th point for her career.

She also recorded her fourth double-double of the season on Wednesday against RMWC as she had 10 points and 10 rebounds.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on January 05, 2007, 03:46:06 pm
Katy Herr Lovell is just 8 points away from scoring her 1,000th point for her career.

She also recorded her fourth double-double of the season on Wednesday against RMWC as she had 10 points and 10 rebounds.

And on that note, Caroline Wesley needs 9 points for 1,000 points.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 05, 2007, 09:52:20 pm
Katy Herr Lovell now has 1,002 career points as she scored 10 points against Hollins in an 83-22 blowout in Bridgewater's favor.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 05, 2007, 10:02:00 pm
Congratulations to Katy!

Bridgewater has been able to use their full roster of 15 their past two games. Wednesday BC had 14 players score against RMWC and tonight BC had all 15 girls score. Kristen Bosserman, a freshmen who sees very limited minutes, led Bridgewater in playing time tonight with 22 minutes, no one else played over 20 minutes.

The Eagles will get a tougher test tomorrow as they play @ Lynchburg.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on January 05, 2007, 10:07:55 pm
and caroline wesley now has 1,010 points in her career after scoring 19 tonight.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 05, 2007, 10:23:05 pm
Eventful night tonight in the ODAC.....Here's the news.....

EMU70
LC 55

Caroline Wesley scores 1,000th point as she records double-double with 19 points and 11 rebounds. Caroline Riley leads the Royals with 16 points.

BC83
HU22

Katy Herr Lovell scores 1,00th point of her career as all 15 players for Bridgewater score.

RC63
W&L52

Erin Hanson recorded her 9th double-double of the season as the Maroons pull to .500 (5-5 3-3) on the year.

VWC78
E&H45

The Marlins hand E&H their third ODAC loss.

RMC76
GC 67

Randolph Macon, led by Lindsay Riesbeck's 21 points, brought Guilford back down to Earth handing the Quakers their first ODAC loss of the season.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 06, 2007, 10:16:24 am
Katy Herr Lovell now has 1,002 career points as she scored 10 points against Hollins in an 83-22 blowout in Bridgewater's favor.

IMO, more amazing is her career rebounding total.

She's 5-foot-4 (with heels on), she brings the ball up court on most plays, and she has still pulled down 567 rebounds in her career (that's through yesterday's Hollins' game).  That ranks her thirteenth all-time at Bridgewater ... and she still has 20+ games to go.  If she keeps up her pace, she would likely finish in the top five.  Amazing.

Thanks to Steve Cox (BC's SID), there are now archived stats on the new BC site (http://bridgewater.edu/index.php?id=907) ... it looks like Shannon Scales is closing in on 1,000 points, with 951 for her career.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 06, 2007, 11:20:53 am
Katy Herr Lovell also has 389 assists all-time, which ranks her 5th in that category at Bridgewater.

Lovell also has 303 steals while at BC, but how does that rank her? It doesn't show up on the BC website as they don't list steals. Matt, do you know?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on January 06, 2007, 11:27:50 am
Last night two of the ODAC's best stars, Caroline Wesley and Katy Herr Lovell both reached 1,000 points for their careers!

I started watching Katy play while she was at Lee High and I was new to the area, and boy was she fun to watch in high school. Some people might not know this, but while at R.E. Lee Katy set 23 school records and maintained a 4.2 GPA! She has also had her jersey retired, so if you ever want to see it displayed and read about all of her achievements you need just drive over to Staunton and stop by the Paul Hatcher Gymnasium to see it.

Also, my brother lives in the Baltimore area and used to watch Caroline Wesley play for Notre Dame High, so it was quite fun for the two of us to see players we used to watch on the high school hard woods hit such a great milestone on the same night!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 06, 2007, 11:42:06 am
Katy Herr Lovell now has 1,002 career points as she scored 10 points against Hollins in an 83-22 blowout in Bridgewater's favor.

IMO, more amazing is her career rebounding total.

She's 5-foot-4 (with heels on), she brings the ball up court on most plays, and she has still pulled down 567 rebounds in her career (that's through yesterday's Hollins' game).  That ranks her thirteenth all-time at Bridgewater ... and she still has 20+ games to go.  If she keeps up her pace, she would likely finish in the top five.  Amazing.

Thanks to Steve Cox (BC's SID), there are now archived stats on the new BC site (http://bridgewater.edu/index.php?id=907) ... it looks like Shannon Scales is closing in on 1,000 points, with 951 for her career.

The funny thing about Katy's 567 rebounds, is that puts her just 13 boards behind Bridgewater Coach Jean Willi, who has 580 career rebounds while at Bridgewater and is 11th all-time at the school.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on January 06, 2007, 05:00:18 pm

The funny thing about Katy's 567 rebounds, is that puts her just 13 boards behind Bridgewater Coach Jean Willi, who has 580 career rebounds while at Bridgewater and is 11th all-time at the school.


But I bet Coach Willi will be quick to point out that in her era there were much better shooters, thus many fewer rebounds to be had, LOL!  :D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 06, 2007, 06:11:45 pm
Bridgewater built a 38-17 halftime lead over Lynchburg on their way to a 75-57 win.

Tough shooting day for Katy Herr Lovell (2-for-10), but she still had 12 points (8-for-8 FTs), seven assists, and five rebounds.  Jessica Timberlake had another great game with 16 points (7-for-10 FGs) and five steals.

The Eagles were killed on the offensive glass (19 to 7), but made up for it by forcing 30 Hornet turnovers and holding them to 33% shooting from the field.

Bridgewater (9-1, 6-0) now comes home for four straight games.  Looking forward to seeing them in
Nininger the next two weeks!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 06, 2007, 06:15:51 pm
Katy Herr Lovell also has 389 assists all-time, which ranks her 5th in that category at Bridgewater.

Lovell also has 303 steals while at BC, but how does that rank her? It doesn't show up on the BC website as they don't list steals. Matt, do you know?

Good question.  I'm not sure myself.  I'll try to find out next week for you.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 07, 2007, 01:44:36 pm
I was able to see Lynchburg vs. Bridgewater yesterday, and man, what a tough Lynchburg squad. I do not think their 2-7 record is very representative of their talent. However, at the beginning of the season I had talked to some Lynchburg fans who were very excited about this recruiting class and had said that the Hornets' had several freshmen who had been given D-1 looks. I don't really see that, and I don't understand why you would go from getting looked at by D-1 to Lynchburg?

I think Lynchburg will be tough this year, but I don't think they'll do much, if anything, in the post season.

I was also impressed with Coach Tobey, it seemed like she kept her players enthusiastic and motivated the whole game, even when they were down by over 20 points.

It'll be interesting to see what this group does in a couple of years.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 07, 2007, 02:27:35 pm
4 of them came out of Richmond, and I think they were all on the same AAU team, but I think only one would have gotten any DI looks.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 07, 2007, 05:00:55 pm
I was able to see Lynchburg vs. Bridgewater yesterday, and man, what a tough Lynchburg squad. I do not think their 2-7 record is very representative of their talent. However, at the beginning of the season I had talked to some Lynchburg fans who were very excited about this recruiting class and had said that the Hornets' had several freshmen who had been given D-1 looks. I don't really see that, and I don't understand why you would go from getting looked at by D-1 to Lynchburg?

I think Lynchburg will be tough this year, but I don't think they'll do much, if anything, in the post season.

I was also impressed with Coach Tobey, it seemed like she kept her players enthusiastic and motivated the whole game, even when they were down by over 20 points.

It'll be interesting to see what this group does in a couple of years.

Katy Herr Lovell got some D1 looks as well when she was a senior in highschool, but decided instead to go to Bridgewater which had just finished their season in the 02-03 campaign at 11-16. She made an immediate impact at BC as she led the Eagles in her freshmen season to a 22-6 record and a regular season first place finish.

The recruits at Lynchburg, whether they were given D1 looks or not, came to a team that had finished the previous year at 10-15.

So, you ask if they were recruited D1 why go somewhere like Lynchburg? Well Katy could have been asked the same question, but look at the results of her decision. She stayed close to home and has her parents at every game, she gets to play lots of minutes, and she has turned Bridgewater around.

There are a lot of positives of going D3 instead of D1, and I'm sure these Lynchburg freshmen were coming in here hoping to also turn Lynchburg's program around, which they just might some day.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on January 07, 2007, 05:10:35 pm
As far as Possible D1 kids going D3, it's happened with the men's team at LC. Steven Echols received several D1 scholarship offers, now he's at LC, has established himself as one of the best, if not the best, freshman in the ODAC, an will surely get well over 1,000 points in his carrer. Oh and he has helped turn a 3-22 team into a team that is 6-6. Now if he had gone D1, he probably wouldn't have even gotten into a game yet.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: waterlucy on January 07, 2007, 07:49:14 pm
Fairmont1113:  Getting some "D1 looks" does not mean you could have gone D1.  As amazing a player as Katie Herr is - she could not go D1 because of her height.  That does not diminish her talent, but many different factors go into the D1 formula.  Besides, some players like to be big fish in little ponds - i.e. Megan Silva.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 07, 2007, 09:08:03 pm
I haven’t been on in a while, just enjoying the holidays. I get back excited to see the talk on the board and all I see is blah, blah, blah Bridgewater, blah,blah, Katie herr.  I know, I know there just isn’t that much to do around BC so you guys just sit at home on your computers and talk back and fourth to each other but lets try incorporate some other teams in the conversation. How about VWC!  In case you haven’t noticed and judging by the conversation you haven’t The Mighty Marlins are 10-3 overall and 7-1 in the conference. Having beaten Macon, Noke, E&H, Guilford, W&L X2 and well the women’s college. No the Marlins don’t have any 1,000 point scorers and I don’t know about any DI players, although with 327 D1 schools and AAU ball I am sure just about anyone can get a “D1 look”.  So lets just say with 15 players who got D1 looks the Marlins are looking good. The stats from Guilford have not been added in to the team stats at this time but after the E&H game the marlins had 3 players averaging 10 ppg followed by 5 others averaging 5 or more points. And that’s just the thing, while none of the Marlins get the bug head lines you can’t beat VWC by shutting down just 1 player because they have figured out how to play as a team. So you probably won’t see too many Marlins on the all conference team at the end of the year, there is a good chance that none of these Marlins will score 1,000 points, and none of you narrow sighted people will write about any of them on these posts but they have it figured out here at the beach. Are the Marlins going to win the rest of their games? I don’t know, I am guessing that someone will get them again along the way, the conference is pretty tough, but come tournament time I think this TEAM will be ready to knock off all of your super star players.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: emufan on January 07, 2007, 09:15:10 pm
, while none of the Marlins get the bug head lines

LOL, here is to no ODAC players getting the 'bug' headlines! 

Just messing with you since you are tired of the BC jibjab
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 07, 2007, 09:26:56 pm
Thanks for the help EMUFAN, you guys had a big win at lynchburg this weekend.  Maybe the Royals need some more posts on the board!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on January 07, 2007, 11:24:57 pm
I am very excited about VWC's success thus far this year, and its good to see some other posts other then BC. It does seem like there are a lot of BC posts (I have posted some about BC because I now live up this way and make it to those games) but just because BC fans are enthusiastic and post up doesn't mean people need to degrade that fact. Katy Herr just hit a big mile stone so people are mentioning that and giving her some praise. I have to say, vwcbeachbum, you do VWC shame for being as immature as your posts imply that you are.

It would be nice for some other schools to start posting up a little bit. Last year this board was still dominated by BC fans, but there were also a ton of RMC fans. I am not sure where everyone has gone, but who cares that BC fans are using this board to talk about their school. Is that not one of the reasons for this board??
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 07, 2007, 11:40:46 pm
I haven’t been on in a while, just enjoying the holidays. I get back excited to see the talk on the board and all I see is blah, blah, blah Bridgewater, blah,blah, Katie herr. 

What is funny is that your posts are the ones that sound like "blah blah blah."

None of your posts have been positive, you always have to bicker about something.  I guess that brings you amusement or something. There is a word for people like you.....you can figure that out yourself.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 08, 2007, 12:00:27 am
Fairmont1113:  Getting some "D1 looks" does not mean you could have gone D1.  As amazing a player as Katie Herr is - she could not go D1 because of her height.  That does not diminish her talent, but many different factors go into the D1 formula.  Besides, some players like to be big fish in little ponds - i.e. Megan Silva.

You say that Katy Herr could not have gone D1 because of her height, and you say that with such confidence. How do you have the "know how" in college basketball recruiting to make that call? Despite her height Katy has led BC in rebounding the past two years!

Katy was given more then D1 looks, she was offered the chance to play at several small D1 schools but turned them down to be close to home and family, and also so she could have the chance to see playing time. At a D1 program Katy might not have seen very much of the floor, but we will never know?

Every division of basketball needs big fish, even D3. Megan Silva was an amazing player who was very good for our conference. She, also, could have gone D1, but chose to play in a venue where she would be able to play alot of minutes. Its called making that decision so you have a chance to play the game you love, not solely making that decision so you can dominate.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 08, 2007, 01:20:24 am
Are the Marlins going to win the rest of their games? I don’t know, I am guessing that someone will get them again along the way, the conference is pretty tough, but come tournament time I think this TEAM will be ready to knock off all of your super star players.


OHHHHH please ...lets don't start that up again this year.  We heard that all season long last year and the Marlins didn't win the season, and didn't win the tourney... and aren't going to win either this year either. PERIOD. >:(
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 08, 2007, 01:25:59 am


Katy was given more then D1 looks, she was offered the chance to play at several small D1 schools but turned them down to be close to home and family, and also so she could have the chance to see playing time. At a D1 program Katy might not have seen very much of the floor, but we will never know?

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Shorter than 5'8" and you are rarely going to get any meaningful playing time at any significant DI programs. Since you aren't shooting for proball there is much wisdom staying close to family, getting a great education, and playing lots more ball for four more years. ;)   
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 08, 2007, 11:16:21 am

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None of your posts have been positive, you always have to bicker about something.  I guess that brings you amusement or something. There is a word for people like you.....you can figure that out yourself.
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At least my posts get a reaction and get people talking. Isn't that what this board is all about. Talking about the ODAC. If you guys want to have a board just for BC I am sure that can be done. But until then at least I am getting a rise out of people  ;D

How many D1 Players does EMU have EMUFAN? Because they sure smacked the D1 Lynchburg kids pretty hard.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on January 08, 2007, 05:55:45 pm
As far as Possible D1 kids going D3, it's happened with the men's team at LC. Steven Echols received several D1 scholarship offers, now he's at LC, has established himself as one of the best, if not the best, freshman in the ODAC, an will surely get well over 1,000 points in his carrer. Oh and he has helped turn a 3-22 team into a team that is 6-6. Now if he had gone D1, he probably wouldn't have even gotten into a game yet.

Hottie,
 I would agree with one of the best and maybe the best in the ODAC by seasons end. Dominic Trawick is currently the third leading scorer in the ODAC at 19.8pts/gm. Echols has more assists and a better FT % & 3pt % by mere percentage points. I would have to say Trawick is in the lead now, but the season is still young. ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on January 08, 2007, 06:27:10 pm
I understand that Katy Herr is a great player but I don't think you can put her and Megan Silva in the same category. Megan Silva got big time D1 looks and could have actually player D1. Saying a player like Katy Herr got D1 looks is much different because she was not, and still is not at the level that Megan Silva was at. I think that Silva is the only recent player to go through the ODAC from my knowledge and memory that had the capability to play D1.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 08, 2007, 07:53:02 pm
Except for points (Silva averaged twice as many shots per game than Herr Lovell), their career stats aren't that far off.  What is most amazing is that they both have started every game since stepping onto their respective campuses, and have both won a combined 80% of their games as the floor generals.

Congrats to both for their amazing careers.  We're lucky we are able to still witness one of them!

Megan Silva
Katy Herr Lovell
Randolph-Macon
School
Bridgewater
5-foot-9
Height
5-foot-4
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2002-2006
Years
2003-present
121-121
GP-GS
95-95
98-23 (81.0%)
Record (Win%)
75-20 (78.9%)
873-1799 (48.5%)
Field Goals (%)
336-849 (39.6%)
526-689 (76.3%)
Free Throws (%)
240-316 (75.9%)
101-266 (38.0%)
Three-Pointers (%)
102-319 (32.0%)
2371 (19.6)
Points (Avg)
1014 (10.7)
556 (4.6)
Rebounds (Avg)
572 (6.0)
700 (5.9)
Assists (Avg)
400 (4.2)
446 (3.7)
Steals (Avg)
307 (3.2)
34 (0.3)
Blocks (Avg)
19 (0.2)
460 (3.8 )
Turnovers (Avg)
230 (2.4)
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Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 08, 2007, 09:40:16 pm
I understand that Katy Herr is a great player but I don't think you can put her and Megan Silva in the same category. Megan Silva got big time D1 looks and could have actually player D1. Saying a player like Katy Herr got D1 looks is much different because she was not, and still is not at the level that Megan Silva was at. I think that Silva is the only recent player to go through the ODAC from my knowledge and memory that had the capability to play D1.


When was anyone putting the two players in the same category, other then saying both got D1 looks? Which, they both did. I am not sure what Silva was offered, but Katy was given several chances at partial scholarships to play D1.  She is a short player, but her hustle and intensity negate her height, just look at how she is getting ready to move into the top 10 all time at BC in rebounding.

Silva was an AMAZING player, no doubt about that. However, no one was ever putting them on the same level other then to speak about both of their decisions to go D3 to stay close to family and be given a chance to play.

You say Silva could have actually been a good D1 player, implying Herr Lovell could not have. That's a bold and cocky statement, and one that we will never know because as amazing as Silva was, she was a D3 player and that is what she, as well as Herr Lovell, will remain.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 08, 2007, 10:47:12 pm
Blah Blah Blah Megan Silva Blah Blah Blah Katie Herr ....................
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 08, 2007, 11:48:45 pm
Except for points (Silva averaged twice as many shots per game than Herr Lovell), their career stats aren't that far off.  What is most amazing is that they both have started every game since stepping onto their respective campuses, and have both won a combined 80% of their games as the floor generals.

Congrats to both for their amazing careers.  We're lucky we are able to still witness one of them!

Megan Silva
Katy Herr Lovell
Randolph-Macon
School
Bridgewater
5-foot-9
Height
5-foot-4
-----------------------
-----------------------
2002-2006
Years
2003-present
121-121
GP-GS
95-95
98-23 (81.0%)
Record (Win%)
75-20 (78.9%)
873-1799 (48.5%)
Field Goals (%)
336-849 (39.6%)
526-689 (76.3%)
Free Throws (%)
240-316 (75.9%)
101-266 (38.0%)
Three-Pointers (%)
102-319 (32.0%)
2371 (19.6)
Points (Avg)
1014 (10.7)
556 (4.6)
Rebounds (Avg)
572 (6.0)
700 (5.9)
Assists (Avg)
400 (4.2)
446 (3.7)
Steals (Avg)
307 (3.2)
34 (0.3)
Blocks (Avg)
19 (0.2)
460 (3.8 )
Turnovers (Avg)
230 (2.4)
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Silva 5" 9" ??????  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  Did you ever see her Matt?....and a MUCH MUCH better player 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 09, 2007, 12:29:11 am
Silva 5" 9" ??????  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  Did you ever see her Matt?....and a MUCH MUCH better player 

I accidentally took Merkel's height from the 2005-06 roster.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacblogger on January 09, 2007, 01:49:39 pm
January 9
EMU at W&L (7:00 p.m.)
GC at LC (7:00 p.m.)
HU at E&H (7:00 p.m.)
RC at BC (7:00 p.m.)

Any thoughts on the outcome of these games? 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: upper90 on January 09, 2007, 02:10:32 pm
until katy herr lovell gets national player of the year, wins a few ODAC championships, and is a 2 time all-american, i think comparisons should be avoided.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: bbald eagle on January 09, 2007, 02:17:12 pm
I think that Silva is the only recent player to go through the ODAC from my knowledge and memory that had the capability to play D1.

What about Marsha Kinder? She was very impressive.

http://www.d3hoops.com/springfield/06/kinder.htm

You sell D-3 players short. I have seen a number of D-1 women players who would not shine on the better D-3 teams.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 09, 2007, 02:44:39 pm
until katy herr lovell gets national player of the year, wins a few ODAC championships, and is a 2 time all-american, i think comparisons should be avoided.

I'm having trouble understanding why Silva and Herr Lovell can't be compared?

I took a statistical approach ... and when done, you can't say they aren't close in production.  No one is saying Herr Lovell is "better" than Silva.  But I also won't say Silva is "better" than Herr Lovell.  That's simply a subjective opinion.

Individual awards will always be subjective, so the fact that Silva earned Player of the Year and All-America honors won't sway me.  I do realize R-MC won three ODAC crowns w/ Silva, but Bridgewater did finish runner-up two of those years w/ Herr Lovell.

Simply put, I think we should celebrate both point guards for what they've accomplished.  Starting every game and winning 80% of the time they stepped on the court.  Very impressive, no matter what awards they have earned or conference titles won.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 09, 2007, 03:20:43 pm
January 9
EMU at W&L (7:00 p.m.)
GC at LC (7:00 p.m.)
HU at E&H (7:00 p.m.)
RC at BC (7:00 p.m.)

Any thoughts on the outcome of these games? 

RC at BC - The Maroons have played within eight points of VWC, R-MC, GC, and EMU, with Erin Hanson being the key to their success.  When she scores 20+, they're 4-0.  When she scores less than 20, they're 1-5.  If BC can force her into bad decisions, the Eagles should be alright.  Hanson is averaging 5.2 turnovers in Roanoke's five losses. Bridgewater 67, Roanoke 58

HU at E&H - It's Hollins ... enough said.  Emory & Henry 75, Hollins 42

GC at LC - Two teams who combine for only three seniors and no juniors.  Lots of youth, but the Quakers have been playing better with their five-game win streak ending with a nine-point loss to R-MC and a 10-point loss to VWC.  I think this will be a close one with Caroline Wesley keeping the Hornets in it w/ Guilford's lack of height.  Freshman PG Kristina Darby is a turnover machine (4.9 a game) and will keep Lynchburg from winning. Guilford 58, Lynchburg 52

EMU at W&L - Two of the better defensive and rebounding teams in the conference, with W&L's Jessica Hunsinger and EMU's Carolyn Riley leading the way for both clubs.  I think Hunsinger's presence in the middle will force EMU to shoot from outside, and if Mandee Madden, Ebony Dennis, or Riley get hot early, it could be lights out. Eastern Mennonite 62, Washington & Lee 54
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 09, 2007, 04:17:28 pm
Roanoke knows how to apply pressure and works very well with Erin Hansen and the rest of their resources - but Bridgewater is just too strong.
Emory & Henry hasn't really been that competitive this year - but like you say - it is Hollins.
Guilford over Lynchburg - turnovers!
EMU is doing pretty well this year, and W & L is looking pretty weak.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 09, 2007, 06:07:57 pm
Bridgewater over Roanoke

E&H over Hollins

Lynchburg over Guilford

W&L over EMU


thanks for the post odacblogger!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on January 09, 2007, 10:03:03 pm
RC 69, BC 67
Release says BC came out cold - didn't score until 10:39 to go in the 1st half; and RC's Hanson blocked a Herr Lovell shot with 2 seconds to go that would have tied the game.

I think the tourney this year will be up for grabs depending on who is cold and who is hot come tourney time. 

There goes the prospect of another team going undefeated for the season.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 09, 2007, 10:18:56 pm
I was at the BC-RC game tonight.  Kudos to Roanoke for shooting out of the gates strong (took a 20-4 lead) and never looked back.  The Eagles missed their first 16 shots of the game, and could never get it going on the defensive end until the last 10 minutes of the game.

I was impressed by the play of Long and Osborne.  Long seemed like she couldn't miss, and Osborne gave Herr Lovell trouble all night.

Attempting to find a bright side to a conference loss (at home), the Eagles were down 53-34 with 14:18 to go in the game, and brought it back to 66-65 with three minutes left and then 68-67 with a minute remaining.  Way to hang in there even though their shots weren't falling.  Amy Childs led the furious comeback with 17 points in the second half.

Again, congrats to Roanoke.

Box Score: http://www.bridgewater.edu/Sports/features/whoops0607/07WBBRC1.HTM
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 09, 2007, 11:06:15 pm
Anyone know how many roanoke players had D1 looks?  ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 09, 2007, 11:14:00 pm
Am I going to lose Karma for that? Congratulations to Roanoke for a big win, makes things exciting at the top of the leader board
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 10, 2007, 02:29:23 am
until katy herr lovell gets national player of the year, wins a few ODAC championships, and is a 2 time all-american, i think comparisons should be avoided.

I'm having trouble understanding why Silva and Herr Lovell can't be compared?

I took a statistical approach ... and when done, you can't say they aren't close in production.  No one is saying Herr Lovell is "better" than Silva.  But I also won't say Silva is "better" than Herr Lovell.  That's simply a subjective opinion.


Matt you are the one being subjective. look at those stats. Twice as many points, twice as many assists, twice as many steals. Silva is the all time record holder for ODAC in all 3 categories. She is the all time leading men or women's scorer in ODAC history. She was D3 POY. She is the best woman to EVER have played ODAC. She is in a class of one, above all the other great players including Herr. And I expect she will remain there for a decade or more.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 10, 2007, 07:41:59 am
I can’t take it any more. Let’s just all agree that Silva and Herr are the greatest players ever to play basketball at any level. In fact I don’t know how the ODAC will survive once Herr graduates this year. It will be like watching a bad jv basketball game because there are no other athletes at any of the other ODAC schools. Maybe to save everyone the pain and suffering we should consider folding all the ODAC women’s basketball programs. I mean really what will the point be to play. The money saved can be added back into the schools other sports. We can just invite Megan and Katie back to play in a one-on-one exhibition game and everyone can sit in awe of them. Another option the ODAC should consider, if they decide to keep women’s bball after this season is to rename the ODAC the Silva Herr-Lovell Athletic Conference (The SHLAC that has kind of a nice ring to it). Or, heaven forbid, they ever decide to split the ODAC into two divisions we can have the Silva Division and the Herr-Lovell Division. I don’t want to take anything away from either of these players, obviously Megan Silva was a class act and in a class of her own, and Katie is a very good basketball player (Sorry that is all I am giving her), but open your eyes people there are LOTS of very talented players in this conference!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 10, 2007, 08:28:54 am
GAVA,

You're certainly entitled to your own opinion.  I'm sure there are a lot of posters/readers that agree with you.  Silva was a great player, no question.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 10, 2007, 08:51:26 am
vwcbeachbum,

I know what I'm about to say is painfully obvious to every reader of this thread, but most of your posts are not constructive.

Debating if a player is great, or why a team is superior, is the very thing that drives these threads.  But there's a way to do it.  For instance, GAVA and I can disagree on a topic, but I think we mutually respect one anothers opinions.

Just curious as to how you think being deliberately sarcastic with your posts will get meaningful reaction out of anyone?  This very post right here by me isn't even meaningful.  I'm sure I'll even lose karma for pointing out the obvious.  But after you last couple posts, I'm starting to think you are ignorant to your ill-bred comments.

I think I've said this before, but perhaps it's worth repeating.  I know you probably careless what others think about you and your posts (in an odd way, you probably enjoy this kind of attention), but it's pretty likely you are just embarrassing the rest of the Marlin fan base.  If Coach Dunmyer even checks this thread, I'm sure she isn't too "proud" that one of her few vocal fans is so coarse.  I suspect you don't even care.

Anyway, just thought I'd state the obvious.  Knowing your posting history, I'm pretty confident you'll respond with something sarcastic.  If so, I'll simply join the many who scroll past your posts.  And that would be sad seeing that the Marlins are having a great year and you actually have a lot of good things to say about them.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 10, 2007, 09:12:03 am
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And that would be sad seeing that the Marlins are having a great year and you actually have a lot of good things to say about them.

How can anyone get a word in edge wise about any other team that doesn't involve Megan Silva or Katie Herr-Lovell. The Marlins don't have any 1,000 point scorers, anyone leading any statistical category in the ODAC, no one claiming to be a D1 prospect, they had ONE 2nd team all conference player last year (Heather Phillips) and she is just now starting to get back into the line up after an early season injury and yet they have found a way to be 10-3 and have 1 conference loss.  That is what is most unfortunate about most of the posters on this board. If they can’t see it in the stat line they can’t see it at all. Throw your stat sheets away and just sit back and watch a game. I don’t need a bunch of stats read off to me to know that Megan Silva was a great player, I don’t need to see her numbers next to Katie Herr’s to know that Katie is a good basketball player. If you put Katie’s numbers next to anyone on the VWC roster she blows them away and somehow the Marlins find themselves in a tie for first place and somehow Roanoke was able to defeat the Eagles last night. The point is there are MANY outstanding players in this conference on every team and this board continues to discuss only two, one of which is no longer playing. Lets be thankful that we had the chance to see Megan Silva play, enjoy watching Katie Herr finish her career and realize that, amazingly enough,  life in the ODAC will go on without either of them.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on January 10, 2007, 10:53:15 am
Once again....vwcbeachbum....I am embarrassed to say I am from the same area as you are (assuming you are from the VA Beach area).

VWC is playing awesome, and it would be great if there were more VWC people posting on this board, but there's not. Hats off to good RMC and BC fans who support their teams and players and fill this board. Since that is all who seems to post, then of course they are going to talk about their players and their teams.

WHO CARES!!!!

I agree with Matt, I have just started ignoring your posts all together since they are NEVER constructive. You do fellow Marlins shame.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on January 10, 2007, 10:57:45 am
I am not a die hard fan of anyone, but since I am in the Valley now I will make it to EMU and BC games and enjoy seeing the home teams win, but I also enjoyed seeing an upset last night as it makes this conference very even (I am of course talking about the BC vs. Roanoke game).

Roanoke played very intense and you could tell they wanted this one. I guess everyone picks up their games when they play a top 25 team.

On a side note, I think Cindi McGraw for Roanoke has invented a new way to score. Five times last night she fell flat on her back after she threw up a shot and someone came to box her out, and that accounted for two fouls and five free throws (one was after a triple). The BC fans kept telling the refs that it was acting, which it probably was. She should get actor of the year.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 10, 2007, 02:29:58 pm
On a side note, I think Cindi McGraw for Roanoke has invented a new way to score. Five times last night she fell flat on her back after she threw up a shot and someone came to box her out, and that accounted for two fouls and five free throws (one was after a triple). The BC fans kept telling the refs that it was acting, which it probably was. She should get actor of the year.

Haha ... I remember that happening.  It was funny to hear the fans yell "are you serious?!" every time it did occur.  Kudos to her to tricking the refs.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 10, 2007, 06:42:52 pm
I know "vabeachbum" is caustic, but you all aren't really listening to what he/she says.  There ARE more fantastic players in the Odac than Katy & Megan, but that is who most people drone on about.  Some people get tired of it.  Kudos to Roanoke - I'm sure no one saw that game coming.  I don't think it was because McGraw was a good "actor" though.  0-16 at the start of the game speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on January 10, 2007, 07:44:38 pm
Okay, since the call is out for V-dubb fans to chime in, I'm off my year vacation from this site and back to posting. 

I know people don't want to hear it, but vwcbeachbum is not shaming VWC fans, he/she is just voicing what a lot of people from Roanoke, Hollins, Lynchburg, EMU, Emory & Henry, RMWC, W&L, Guilford, and of course VWC are thinking and maybe not saying.  We all agree that there have been incredible players throughout the years in the ODAC, some and most probably not the same caliber as Silva and Herr Lovell.  And because of their careers being so recent (and ongoing) it's easy to continue giving them props.  They deserve years of props.  I'm sure VWC and the rest will go on to have their Silvas and Herr Lovells in the next years -it's a cycle, I know.  It's just tough when the posts now are so RMC and BC dominated when other school's fans don't flood the posts with how great their teams are doing and how well-rounded and consistent they are.  It does seem like every year we continue to focus on Randy Mac and BC - although it does happen with teams like Duke and Syracuse, etc who are "supposed" to be great every year.  It's repetitive, but a good reason more fans should show up on here and support their school.  VWC is on top now and that's something they should be proud of.  They have a bench full of contributors and that is what a team is truly about.  BC is and will continue to have a fantastic year, which is great for the ODAC, as well as other schools showing up to play  (Nice Noke!)  Not to get mushy, but we really should notice teams beyond their one player and teams who don't have a superstar and are continuing to step it up and do well. 

Blah blah blah, go Marlins and go ODAC!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 10, 2007, 09:14:32 pm
I agree with Matt, I have just started ignoring your posts all together since they are NEVER constructive. You do fellow Marlins shame.

Actually, I had no problem with this particular beachbum post.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 10, 2007, 10:25:02 pm
Old School Marlin and whitecaylxx,

I don't think you all are getting it.  I, along with many other posters on d3sports.com, take the approach that if someone is talking about a subject they care not of, then you simply don't speak on it.

Now, if "bum" really does care about the Silva-Herr Lovell topic that was brought up, and would like to voice his/her opinion, perhaps he/she could provide a handful of names he/she thinks deserves being in the Silva-Herr Lovell comparision from the past 10 years.  Perhaps a Katrina Williams (Roanoke, 1999-03) or a Laura Haynes (Guilford, 1994-98).

If he/she really cared, maybe even throw out some names of current players who deserve recognition for being the top player in the league.  Those who come to my mind would be a Erin Hanson (RC), a Caroline Wesley (LC), a Jessica Hunsinger (W&L), or a healthy Heather Phillips (VWC).

Instead, "bum" simply tries to silence the conversation rather than contribute or ignore it.

So ... what am I still not getting?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on January 11, 2007, 05:44:29 am
Nothing really Matt.  I agree, people talking about good players is a part of the discussion about ODAC women's basketball on this board.  All I am saying is that it's not just about the best individuals on the teams, or the best individuals to play in the ODAC (although we should all be proud of them for being part of our much loved conference), it's about the teams.  It's not a competition between Silva vs. Herr, Wesley vs. Phillips, it's about the great battles every year between Roanoke vs. E&H, etc.  It's about who's beating who on the boards and whose assist/turnover ratio is the best its ever been. There's much more to say about ODAC women's basketball than continously trying to "stick" it to other teams' fans how great their "great" is in comparison to other.  Nothing wrong with a little pride, but again it's so repetitive and individual.  I guess I'd just like to see more rah rah for the team effort aspect than always reading about the "I" in the "TEAM".  And much kudos for those who do so - and there are many.

(And I promise, for those who may think so, this is not a (excuse the expression) "butt hurt" comment from a V-dubb fan who hasn't seen a championship (like our men!) or longs for a Silva of our own.  It's just getting pretty old reading the same posts about the same people.  Just wanting a little more well rounded discussion.)  

And maybe you're right Matt, if this is the way it continues, then we should all write praise after praise of our own players to keep up with everyone else.  It's all good.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 11, 2007, 08:53:27 am
And maybe you're right Matt, if this is the way it continues, then we should all write praise after praise of our own players to keep up with everyone else.  It's all good.

It certainly doesn't hurt.  I gave Silva her much deserved praise even though she continually defeated my Eagles.  Also, after I see a BC game, I try to compliment the opposing team (or particular players) instead of just going off on how well (or poor) my own team played.

But that's just my approach.  Somehow I think that intiates healthy conversation where we aren't bashing another player, team, or poster.  I have certainly had my fair share of posting that type of stuff, and it never seems to benefit the boards.

But you and "bum" keep doing what you're doing.  You seem to be keeping yourselves involved in the conversation with your approach.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 11, 2007, 09:37:11 am
On the topic of teams, I took a look at the last 10 years (from 1996-97 to 2005-06) and the top five total ODAC wins, ODAC regular season wins, and ODAC tournament wins:

SchoolTotalReg. SeasonTourney
1Bridgewater
175-50
159-41
16-9
2Randolph-Macon
167-55
152-48
15-7
3Roanoke
149-73
134-66
15-7
4Guilford
136-84
124-76
12-8
5Emory & Henry
123-95
115-85
8-10

Those five aforementioned schools (BC, E&H, GC, R-MC, RC) that have made the ODAC tournament each of the last 10 seasons.

Washington & Lee has made it eight of the years, but has a 1-8 record. Virginia Wesleyan made it seven times, but is 0-7.  Eastern Mennonite made it six years (3-5 record), getting all of their tournament wins in 2004 when they won the title.

Randolph-Macon and Roanoke each have three titles, Guilford has two, and Bridgewater and EMU with one.  BC and R-MC have the most title game appearances with five each.

Hollins, Lynchburg, Randolph-Macon Woman's, and VWC are all winless in the ODAC tournament the last 10 years.  Their last postseason wins:

Hollins - 1991
Lynchburg - 1991
RMWC - never
VWC - 1994
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on January 11, 2007, 12:09:46 pm
Good info on the team stats.  It's always interesting to look at that stuff.   Maybe VWC can turn some things around in the near future and break that stinking tournament curse.  (Never could get past the first round as a player OR a coach!)  And if they keep their eyes on the prize maybe even a regular season first place finish - though the Eagles and others will make it a tough road.  I can always hope and cheer them on!  You must excuse me for not being able to comment first hand on games, player's performances, etc.  I'm all the way on the other side of the country and am eager to read other posters' take of the season.  If I get caught up in the "individual" discussion, it's only because I really want to hear about everything that's going on, more than the same "best player" rant.  I was there to see Silva and Herr Lovell so I know they are awesome.  Keep me informed of all the other great goings on.  Thanks!  ; ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 11, 2007, 12:25:12 pm
J There that was all I really wanted to wake up some other people! See “kid”, not everyone hates me. You might be surprised at what other opinions people have out side the wall of Nininger. There is a whole new world out there full of great basketball!

GO MARLINS :) Hollins, Lynchburg, Hollins who made that schedule? Tough game at Roanoke after that!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pray4Surf on January 11, 2007, 06:29:15 pm
Yawn who cares about years past all that matters is here and now. The marlins are 10-3 and 7-1 in the odac. Looking at there coming schedule they have 6 home games and 6 away games I would have to say there schedule is very favorable. I see the marlins coming away with at least 15 wins in the odac if not more putting them in very good position to be in second place going into the tournament. I know it’s still early but the marlins have put themselves in very good position and I see the Bridgewater game on Feb. 10th the deciding factor about who will be ranked first going into the tournament. I have faith in the marlins and see them coming away with at least 20 wins this season. Go marlins!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on January 11, 2007, 09:31:45 pm
Maybe with RMWC going co-ed next year, even they will soon join the ranks of teams to make the post season!!

Also, I remember reading in the ODAC championship brochure last year the history of the playoffs.  I recall if you go back even 10 years more, you'll find Roanoke at the top of the overall win list.

As with most things in life, everything that goes around comes around.

I know what I've learned in the years of playing in, and watching and listening to ODAC games, in the end I'm proud to cheer on which ever team(s) move(s) on to the NCAA tourney to represent our conference.   I certainly cheer for my alma mater during head to head match ups during the season, but it's just as good when ANY ODAC team gets a win outside the conference.  We will have many of these this year (and already have) as well as in future years.

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacblogger on January 12, 2007, 10:50:11 am
Tonight's games:

January 12
E&H at BC (7:00 p.m.)
GC at EMU (7:00 p.m.)
RC at RMWC (7:00 p.m.)
W&L at LC (7:00 p.m.)

Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: waterlucy on January 12, 2007, 03:39:59 pm
Bridgewater should easily defeat Emory & Henry - E & H will pay the price for the Roanoke fiasco.
EMU should beat Guilford - they are really a team effort - but if they falter, they will just collapse.
RMC over RMWC
Lynchburg will probably beat W & L - but it will be the battle of the upper cellar.
Sounds negative, but just a commentary.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 12, 2007, 04:23:02 pm
Bridgewater over E&H, I agree with waterlucy, Bridgewater should be ready to play after the Roanoke dissapointment

EMU over Guilford, I think Guilford's great ODAC start was in part due to their easy conference schedule at the beginning, and Guilford has the long road trip today which will help EMU get the W, although I think it will be a close game.

I think it is Roanoke playing RMWC, and so I will of course pick Roanoke, maybe the BC game means they are finally playing to their potential

I will go with W&L over Lynchburg, although I think which ever of the big gals (Caroline Wesley for LC or Jessica Hunsinger for W&L) has the better game will win.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 12, 2007, 09:56:17 pm
Bridgewater 85
Emory & Henry 51

Recap (http://bridgewater.edu/index.php?id=878) / Box Score (http://bridgewater.edu/Sports/features/whoops0607/07WBEHC1.HTM)

BC jumped out to a 21-8 lead, but after an E&H timeout and under two minutes later, it was only 21-17.  The Eagles moved out to a 20-point lead (39-19) with just under three minutes left in the first half.  After the break, the Wasps got it to 41-28, but BC broke it open again and never looked back.

I liked Habel and Brown for E&H.  They could both create their own shots well.  For some reason Brown didn't play much.  One thing I did notice was that there wasn't much talking among the E&H players during the game, even when it was close.  I think they lack a vocal leader.  It might be because their head coach has a quiet approach to coaching.  All in all, E&H has a fiesty bunch, and I think they'll give some ODAC teams trouble this season.  They just couldn't hit any of their three-pointers (3-for-17).

In limited minutes (21), Herr Lovell had 12 points, 8 steals, 5 rebounds, and 4 assists.  It was certainly a team effort.  It's nice to be able to bring someone like Timberlake off the bench.  She had 10 points, 4 assists, and 4 steals in only 14 minutes.

The Eagles (10-2, 7-1) will have a tough game tomorrow afternoon against the Quakers.  If they play the way they did in the second part of the first half, we should be OK.  Scales now has 991 career points, so she may top the 1,000-point mark in that contest.

Also of note, with Herr Lovell's five rebounds, she passes Coach Jean Willi on the all-time rebound list.  Herr Lovell is now No. 11 with 582.  Willi drops to No. 12 with 580.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 12, 2007, 10:11:45 pm
Unbelievable.

Just days after Roanoke upset No. 18 Bridgewater, the Maroons lose to Randolph-Macon Woman's by three points. :o

Here's the box score if you don't believe me: http://wildcats.rmwc.edu/stats/BB_011207.htm
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 12, 2007, 11:23:57 pm
Those crazy Wildcats. They usually get one of those a year (just ask the Marlins) Roanoke overlooking RMWC? Can't do that on ANY night in the ODAC.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 12, 2007, 11:48:51 pm
Now this is a TEAM effort....

## Player Name            FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF  TP  A  TO BLK S MIN
05 RECHNITZER, Sara.... *  4-9     4-8     8-8     0   6     6   1   20   4  5   0    3  36
10 SCHAFFSTALL, Sam.... * 6-10    0-1    1-2     3   4     7   2   13   2  2   1    4  36
21 RECHNITZER, Katie... *  5-19    2-6    4-4     2   2     4   0   16   0  0   0    1  39
30 CARRERA, Lianna..... *  5-12     0-0    2-2     2   3     5   2   12   4  1   0    2  36
40 WADE, Emily......... *      1-3      1-2    3-4     2   4     6   3    6    0  1   0    0  36
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 13, 2007, 09:40:41 am
Now this is a TEAM effort....

## Player Name            FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF  TP  A  TO BLK S MIN
05 RECHNITZER, Sara.... *  4-9     4-8     8-8     0   6     6   1   20   4  5   0    3  36
10 SCHAFFSTALL, Sam.... * 6-10    0-1    1-2     3   4     7   2   13   2  2   1    4  36
21 RECHNITZER, Katie... *  5-19    2-6    4-4     2   2     4   0   16   0  0   0    1  39
30 CARRERA, Lianna..... *  5-12     0-0    2-2     2   3     5   2   12   4  1   0    2  36
40 WADE, Emily......... *      1-3      1-2    3-4     2   4     6   3    6    0  1   0    0  36


Even though it's probably out of necessity, it is amazing how conditioned those girls must be (I've never seen them play in person - so I'm assuming).

For all five starters to play 36+ minutes each, and still only turn it over a combined nine times.  That's impressive!  Rechnitzer could have shot better from the field, but they were still a combined 40% from the field, 41% from three, and 90% from the line.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 13, 2007, 10:22:13 am
Now this is a TEAM effort....

## Player Name            FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF  TP  A  TO BLK S MIN
05 RECHNITZER, Sara.... *  4-9     4-8     8-8     0   6     6   1   20   4  5   0    3  36
10 SCHAFFSTALL, Sam.... * 6-10    0-1    1-2     3   4     7   2   13   2  2   1    4  36
21 RECHNITZER, Katie... *  5-19    2-6    4-4     2   2     4   0   16   0  0   0    1  39
30 CARRERA, Lianna..... *  5-12     0-0    2-2     2   3     5   2   12   4  1   0    2  36
40 WADE, Emily......... *      1-3      1-2    3-4     2   4     6   3    6    0  1   0    0  36


Even though it's probably out of necessity, it is amazing how conditioned those girls must be (I've never seen them play in person - so I'm assuming).

For all five starters to play 36+ minutes each, and still only turn it over a combined nine times.  That's impressive!  Rechnitzer could have shot better from the field, but they were still a combined 40% from the field, 41% from three, and 90% from the line.

That is something!  RMWC (soon to be Randolph College  ???  ;)) could use 3 more players to "really" challenge.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 13, 2007, 07:17:22 pm
VWC 107 Hollins 22

What can you say, all 13 Marlins scored. I didn't se the whole game but  VWC was trying to play subs and early and often. The problem with that is that VWC is used to playing a lot of people anyway so its not like they are subbing in kids that dont know how to play. Coach Wagner is a better person than I am for being able to not lose his mind. Hard to watch..........
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Pray4Surf on January 13, 2007, 08:40:18 pm
All the VWC players played,  the most anyone played was 24 mins. Every player played at least 11 mins. Good game all around for the marlins.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: huskiect on January 15, 2007, 10:29:35 am
RC can be a hard team and I see BC found that when you come out cold it is hard to get back in it. That Happened to VWC this year when they played BC. I find it funny how few people talked about the BC loss. I see VWC just getting stronger. While they will lose 4 seniors this year they have a lot left in the cabinet. Coach Dunmyer is buliding a program that will be strong for years. 
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 15, 2007, 11:36:19 am
RC can be a hard team and I see BC found that when you come out cold it is hard to get back in it. That Happened to VWC this year when they played BC. I find it funny how few people talked about the BC loss. I see VWC just getting stronger. While they will lose 4 seniors this year they have a lot left in the cabinet. Coach Dunmyer is buliding a program that will be strong for years. 

Actually, the BC-RC game was very different from the BC-VWC one.

BC came out cold against RC (got down 18-2), was down 51-32 with 14 minutes left in the game, but got it within one point (64-63) with five minutes remaining in the game.

In the BC-VWC game, the Marlins actually had a 16-8 lead with 11 minutes left in the first half.  It was their second-half shooting (24%) that doomed them.  Credit whatever you want; poor shooting, the Eagles defense.  Either way, the Eagles finished strong in both the RC and VWC games.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 15, 2007, 02:25:24 pm
RC can be a hard team and I see BC found that when you come out cold it is hard to get back in it. That Happened to VWC this year when they played BC. I find it funny how few people talked about the BC loss. I see VWC just getting stronger. While they will lose 4 seniors this year they have a lot left in the cabinet. Coach Dunmyer is buliding a program that will be strong for years. 

I think it is early yet to figure who has what. Most of the big games between the top teams are next month.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 15, 2007, 02:27:40 pm
VWC 107 Hollins 22

What can you say, all 13 Marlins scored. I didn't se the whole game but  VWC was trying to play subs and early and often. The problem with that is that VWC is used to playing a lot of people anyway so its not like they are subbing in kids that dont know how to play. Coach Wagner is a better person than I am for being able to not lose his mind. Hard to watch..........

Hey, and you get to play a replay again this week......such fun ! ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 15, 2007, 06:10:45 pm
I will be at the EMU at BC game Tuesday. It should be a great game.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 16, 2007, 07:49:04 pm
Halftime scores:

Bridgewater 43
Eastern Mennonite 31

Randolph-Macon 35
Washington & Lee 24

Virginia Wesleyan 36
Lynchburg 20
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on January 16, 2007, 09:30:22 pm
Bridgewater wins by 11.  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 16, 2007, 09:36:39 pm
Halftime scores:

Bridgewater 43
Eastern Mennonite 31

Randolph-Macon 35
Washington & Lee 24

Virginia Wesleyan 36
Lynchburg 20

all 3 win, no surprises
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: fairmont1113 on January 16, 2007, 09:48:36 pm
EMU proved to be a very tough team, a team that only has one senior and will be very good in the future. They play very aggressive and shoot the ball well.

Katy Herr Lovell had a huge night scoring 26 points and recording 9 steals. She just took the ball over scoring 8 points during a pivotal BC run in the middle of the second half where she hit back-to-back three pointers.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on January 16, 2007, 09:59:38 pm
I didn't get to listen or watch, but box scores show Lindsay Riesbeck scoring 26 points in 21 minutes of play in RMC- W&L game. 

She was named ODAC player of the week two weeks in a row (Jan 2 and Jan 8).  As only a sophomore, she's shown great composure and seems to be continuing to step up her role on the RMC squad as a leader this year.

She's one to watch.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 16, 2007, 10:13:26 pm
Katy Herr Lovell had a huge night scoring 26 points and recording 9 steals. She just took the ball over scoring 8 points during a pivotal BC run in the middle of the second half where she hit back-to-back three pointers.

Funny thing is, Bridgewater came into this game ranked No. 3 in the nation in free throw percentage at 78.5%, and tonight they were 25-for-29 from the charity stripe.  The four misses?  Herr Lovell, who was 8-for-12, came into the game hitting 86.4%.

Even so, for a pass-first-shoot-second guard, a career high 26 points (could/should have been 30) against your arch rival is all-american material.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 16, 2007, 10:23:30 pm
I didn't get to listen or watch, but box scores show Lindsay Riesbeck scoring 26 points in 21 minutes of play in RMC- W&L game. 

She was named ODAC player of the week two weeks in a row (Jan 2 and Jan 8).  As only a sophomore, she's shown great composure and seems to be continuing to step up her role on the RMC squad as a leader this year.

She's one to watch.

Yeah, she's playing some excellent ball for the Jackets.  But how about Molly Ariail?  Two of the better sixth women in the country (production wise) could be in the ODAC, in R-MC's Ariail and BC's Jessica Timberlake.

Ariail is averaging 12 points, 8.4 rebounds, and 2.0 blocks in the Jackets' first 11 games. Timberlake is averaging 10.6 points, 3.0 rebounds, 2.4 steals, and 2.1 assists in 14 games.  Neither has started a contest (yet).

Always a good sign for a team when you have that kind of production coming off the bench.

I was also really impressed with VWC's Tonia Jones when the Marlins came to Bridgewater.  On the year, she's averaging 9.7 points, 3.7 rebounds and 1.9 steals.  She also hasn't started a game.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 16, 2007, 11:02:40 pm
I was also really impressed with VWC's Tonia Jones when the Marlins came to Bridgewater.  On the year, she's averaging 9.7 points, 3.7 rebounds and 1.9 steals.  She also hasn't started a game.

WHAT? Some love from the kid for VW ;) I agree that Ariail is going to be good. I really Don't remember Riesbeck from the VWC game but that doesn't mean much I don't remember what I had for dinner last night either.  Marlins looked sloppy tonight, 1st half was really bad....... Man, I was doing so well but here goes my karma drop for the night...... Lynchburg is bad, they have some players that look like they have some talent, Caroline Wesley of course is good, but over all as a unit they are not that good. A lot of one on one offense, no real ball handlers, and not a real grasp of what they are doing. A lot of work to do there.........
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on January 17, 2007, 10:03:06 am
I was down in Lexington yesterday and so I was able to make it to the RMC vs. W&L game (didn't go see my two local teams, BC vs. EMU, slug it out) and I was quite impressed with Lindsay Riesbeck and Molly Ariail! I think their overall play carried the Jackets past a tough W&L team.

W&L pulled down 17 offensive rebounds to only 9 by RMC, but W&L couldn't find the bucket shooting only 36% while RMC shot 48% from the field.

I tell you who I was not impressed with, and I guess like you said vwcbeachbum, my karma might go down now also, I was not impressed with the play of Kristen Morgan or Salem Shaffer. Earlier this year on the board people talked about Morgan being the ODAC's best defensive player, and I've heard how Shaffer was going to step up during the post-Silva era, but neither of them impressed me. Shaffer I know has made all-conference honors in the past, but she sure didn't look like it to me.

I think for the RMC to go deep in the post season this year, which they are capable to doing, they will have to have their two returning starters, Morgan and Shaffer, step it up a notch to compliment the outstanding play of their youngsters.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on January 17, 2007, 10:11:14 am
Matt, did you ever figure out where Katy Herr Lovell ranks at BC in the steal category? I noticed she had 9 steals last night and on Friday she had 8, but they don't show it on the website. I was listening to Coach Bill and Scott Lowe on the radio last night while I was at the W&L game, and they mentioned something about Katy being only a few points and a few rebounds away from being in the top 10 all-time for both rebounds and points at BC, and she's #4 all-time in assists, but where in steals?

Sorry everyone for mentioning an individual on this board, I was just curious about that little fact. Hope no one gets too worked up.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 17, 2007, 11:30:41 am
Matt, did you ever figure out where Katy Herr Lovell ranks at BC in the steal category? I noticed she had 9 steals last night and on Friday she had 8, but they don't show it on the website. I was listening to Coach Bill and Scott Lowe on the radio last night while I was at the W&L game, and they mentioned something about Katy being only a few points and a few rebounds away from being in the top 10 all-time for both rebounds and points at BC, and she's #4 all-time in assists, but where in steals?

Sorry everyone for mentioning an individual on this board, I was just curious about that little fact. Hope no one gets too worked up.

Still not sure about where she ranks in steals, sorry.

As far as points, rebounds, and assists, the BC website is actually updating the "Career Leaders" page during the season:

http://www.bridgewater.edu/index.php?id=1214

She is currently No. 12 in points, No. 11 in rebounds, and No. 4 in assists.

She is 17 points and 11 rebounds from breaking into the top 10s in those categories.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on January 17, 2007, 11:37:29 am
Lovell did miss some free throws early but she hit them down the stretch. Katie and Shannon were very good at both ends of the floor.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 17, 2007, 12:33:53 pm


I tell you who I was not impressed with, and I guess like you said vwcbeachbum, my karma might go down now also, I was not impressed with the play of Kristen Morgan or Salem Shaffer. Earlier this year on the board people talked about Morgan being the ODAC's best defensive player, and I've heard how Shaffer was going to step up during the post-Silva era, but neither of them impressed me. Shaffer I know has made all-conference honors in the past, but she sure didn't look like it to me.

I think for the RMC to go deep in the post season this year, which they are capable to doing, they will have to have their two returning starters, Morgan and Shaffer, step it up a notch to compliment the outstanding play of their youngsters.

Morgan is in at point guard as she is the best ball handler on the team. She averages the most time played but she is not a big scorer ( like Silva ). Morgan and Shaffer only average 7 points each, which I think is what Morgan scored last night.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 17, 2007, 01:38:34 pm
Randolph Macon is certainly not the team of last year.  However, their coaching seems to get them through the rough spots.  When RMC broke down a little last night against W & L, they were able to easily get back in the game with some adjustments from both the coaches and players.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: upper90 on January 17, 2007, 02:03:07 pm
Once again, the game isn't just about the stats players put up.  Has anyone actually looked at the players Morgan guards.  Typically the best player/highest scorer on the team, often times these players are quite a few inches taller.  Just ask those players how they feel going into the game knowing they are going to have Morgan on them.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 17, 2007, 02:19:26 pm
Once again, the game isn't just about the stats players put up.  Has anyone actually looked at the players Morgan guards.  Typically the best player/highest scorer on the team, often times these players are quite a few inches taller.  Just ask those players how they feel going into the game knowing they are going to have Morgan on them.


Who's a good defender is really all subjective, because you are right, stats don't always tell the whole story. I think Kristen Morgan is a good defender, but I am not sure I would say she is one of the best in the ODAC. She's also not a big scorer, but she does have solid fundamentals on all aspects of the game. It's nice to have a steady player like that on your team. Not a super star in any part of the game, just steady.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacblogger on January 17, 2007, 05:50:03 pm
Good defenders are not "subjective" just because there isn't a stat line for the category.  A good defender puts out effort all the time - is relentless - doesn't slack off.   A good defender doesn't give too much room and is always looking for the steal or the rebound.   Many of the "scorers" in the stats are lousy defenders - they don't think it is their job to play defense.  Who does everyone think is a good defender in the ODAC?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on January 17, 2007, 06:48:04 pm
I think there are some very good defenders on RMC in Morgan, Merkel, and Hiltunen. I agree with you in that many of the leading scorers in the ODAC aren't the best defenders because that really isn't what they are on the floor to do. But I have always thought defense wins ball games and without these players, the stars on the teams wouldnt have the opportunity to score those points.

And on another note- Shaffer and Morgan may not come off as stars and being impressive to some but they are what keeps this team glued together. They have been starters since the national championship year (04'-05') and have more experience in close games(referring to the final four, elite eight) than any other players in the ODAC easily. Sometimes just being present on the court, getting a few key rebounds, giving a few good passes and demonstrate some team leadership is all it takes to be a significant role player on a team, which those players most certainly are.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 17, 2007, 07:07:43 pm
Who does everyone think is a good defender in the ODAC?

My subjective view is that it takes quickness as well as hand eye coordination to be a good defender.

Of the ODAC teams I've seen in person (and not going by stats), I think VWC's Tonia Jones, Guilford's Dionne Graham, and Bridgewater's Jessica Timberlake, are three of the better ones I've seen.  I haven't seen R-MC play yet, so I'll reserve judgment until then.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacblogger on January 18, 2007, 08:49:04 am
Baller116:
I have a huge problem with the statement that the scorers aren't on the floor the play defense.  That mentality is what makes the difference between a poor or average team and an excellent team.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 18, 2007, 11:32:58 am
Quote
Matt, did you ever figure out where Katy Herr Lovell ranks at BC in the steal category?

Your wishes will soon come true!  Career leaders for steals and blocks will be posted on the web in the coming weeks.

So far Katy is No. 1 all-time in steals.  I'll let you know once it is posted.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 18, 2007, 12:11:02 pm
Through yesterday's games ... Bridgewater is ranked No. 1 in the nation in free throw percentage (79.4%).

No. 2 is Hartwick (78.9%) and No. 3 is UW-Eau Claire (77.7%).

Congrats to the Eagles!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on January 18, 2007, 01:27:32 pm
Baller116:
I have a huge problem with the statement that the scorers aren't on the floor the play defense.  That mentality is what makes the difference between a poor or average team and an excellent team

I never said that was my own mentaility towards the game at all. I said it because unfortunately its just the way it is. I do agree with you in that it is the difference between a good team and a great one.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GeneralFan on January 19, 2007, 12:47:28 pm
Jessica Hunsinger's line last night: 18 points, season high 15 boards, and 9 blocks...One away from the first triple-double in W&L history.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 19, 2007, 03:12:42 pm
Jessica Hunsinger's line last night: 18 points, season high 15 boards, and 9 blocks...One away from the first triple-double in W&L history.

Wow!  I enjoyed watching her play when the Generals came to Nininger last year.  She's one heck of a player.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 19, 2007, 11:57:45 pm
RMC wins at Roanoke tonight. Don't know why Morgan didn't play?
RMC seems to have found themselves and may make a run again this year.
3 big games left, 2 against Bridgewater and the VWC rematch. These should determine who finishes 1,2 &3 in the conference.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 20, 2007, 04:11:42 pm
The Generals beat the Eagles 65-60 this afternoon.

W&L's Hunsinger had a great game, with 17 rebounds, to go along with eight points and four blocks.  The Generals held BC to 34% shooting from the field.  Certainly can't win a game shooting that poorly.

Congrats to the Generals on the big win, and to the Marlins for taking over first place!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 20, 2007, 04:23:16 pm
No ODAC team in the Top 25 Monday?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 20, 2007, 04:49:35 pm
No ODAC team in the Top 25 Monday?

Likely no ODAC team in the top 25 the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: whitecaylxx on January 20, 2007, 06:58:46 pm
Washington and Lee has finally learned it takes a TEAM to beat a competitive opponent, not just a couple of players.  Bridgewater did not press until the second half ( a coaching error), and that let the Generals believe they could play with the lackluster Eagles.  It was Bridgewater who was on the run - if Bridgewater is a top 25 team, then so is W & L now I guess.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 21, 2007, 07:52:03 am
No ODAC team in the Top 25 Monday?

Likely no ODAC team in the top 25 the rest of the season.

VWC should sweep their 3 games next week making them 17-3 which might get their nose under the tent.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 21, 2007, 10:56:04 am
No ODAC team in the Top 25 Monday?

Likely no ODAC team in the top 25 the rest of the season.

I'm not saying that VWC will be in the top 25, but they are beating the same teams that BC was beating when they were in so why not? The ODAC is not very strong right now from top to bottom so that hurts. I don't  think the Marlins have beaten anyone to really push them in but if the eagels hadn't lost to W&L they would still be in right? So if it was good enough for BC why not VW?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: waterlucy on January 21, 2007, 01:18:46 pm
I think after losses to teams like W & L and Roanoke (with their records), everyone can agree that Bridgewater shouldn't have been ranked in the top 25.  I think Bridgewater got in based on last year's record and on only losing one player from that team.  At the beginning of the year some of the Bridgewater posters said that all Marsha Kinder did was score, and that perhaps the Eagles were now even better.  Well apparently, she is sorely missed. She did score, but she also attracted the defense away from the other players so they could shine as well.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 21, 2007, 03:38:28 pm
No ODAC team in the Top 25 Monday?

Likely no ODAC team in the top 25 the rest of the season.

I'm not saying that VWC will be in the top 25, but they are beating the same teams that BC was beating when they were in so why not? The ODAC is not very strong right now from top to bottom so that hurts. I don't  think the Marlins have beaten anyone to really push them in but if the eagels hadn't lost to W&L they would still be in right? So if it was good enough for BC why not VW?

Probably because BC defeated VWC by 15.  Now, if the Marlins beat the Eagles later this season, and they have won all their other games up until then, then I do believe there is a chance they could be ranked.

They are certainly taking care of business whereas the Eagles aren't.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 21, 2007, 03:46:58 pm
I think after losses to teams like W & L and Roanoke (with their records), everyone can agree that Bridgewater shouldn't have been ranked in the top 25.  I think Bridgewater got in based on last year's record and on only losing one player from that team.  At the beginning of the year some of the Bridgewater posters said that all Marsha Kinder did was score, and that perhaps the Eagles were now even better.  Well apparently, she is sorely missed. She did score, but she also attracted the defense away from the other players so they could shine as well.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.  Bridgewater is good enough that when they shoot around 50% from the field, they're tough to beat.  That's why they got to the ODAC tourney final last season and the Sweet 16 in the NCAA tournament.  In their three losses this season, they shot under 35% from the floor in each loss.

I will say that a true top 25 shoots poorly from the field, they find other ways to win (force turnovers, get to the free throw line, etc.) ... BC isn't seeming to do that.

Not to take anything away from Kinder, she was a heck of a player.  But let's not forget that at this point last season, the Eagles were 11-4 (with Marsha).  They finished the regular season 9-1.  I think we are certainly good enough to do the same, but we have a tough one against UMW, two against R-MC, and one more against VWC ... so it won't be easy.

But I think we all agree that a top 25 team wouldn't lose to an eight loss team, much less two of them.  IMO, I don't think the Eagles deserve a sniff at the top 25 again until they can win the ODAC tourney and make some noise in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GeneralFan on January 21, 2007, 08:55:37 pm
Who or what do you guys think will be the big story in the final third of the year?
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 21, 2007, 09:38:10 pm
Who or what do you guys think will be the big story in the final third of the year?

The remaining games between VWC, BC and RMC, which will determine the ODAC championship.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 21, 2007, 10:53:07 pm
Who or what do you guys think will be the big story in the final third of the year?

The remaining games between VWC, BC and RMC, which will determine the ODAC championship.

Well, that will likely determine the No. 1, 2, and 3 seeds in the tournament.  I think teams like Roanoke, Guilford, and even Washington & Lee have proven they can compete with anyone.

I think the big story will be if VWC, BC and R-MC can win out (other then when they play one another, of course), if one of them can receive an at-large berth to the NCAA tournament with only four or five losses.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on January 22, 2007, 12:50:55 am
Who or what do you guys think will be the big story in the final third of the year?

I think RMC will be the big surprise. Yea it was supposed to be a rebuilding year for the jackets but I still think they will come out on top. Being the underdogs this year might give them an advantage in the ODAC tournament without the bulls eye on them like the years in the past.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GeneralFan on January 22, 2007, 11:25:27 am
I would propose that one of the big stories of the remaining season is finding out who in the middle of the pack will lead the way and grab those pivotal #4 and #5 spots. Moreover, I, like I'm sure many among you, are still trying to figure the enigma that is Roanoke College. It's not much of an enigma if Erin Hanson doesn't put in 20 points a night though..

Just running this by people who are much more intelligent than I:

VA Wes loses to Bridgewater
Bridgewater loses to Roanoke.
Roanoke loses to Randolph-Macon Woman's College
Randolph-Macon Woman's College loses to Hollins

Is Hollins in first place? I think that's right....
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 22, 2007, 01:42:18 pm
Since we're just past the midway point of the conference season, who do you all think is the best team and who has deserved all-odac first and second team recognition?

Here's my take...

Best team - How can you not go with VWC?  Since their only ODAC loss (on the road at BC), they've reeled off 11 straight conference wins by an average of 29.8 points. BC's only two losses were to W&L and RC, while VWC is a combined 4-0 against those squads. The Marlins lead the conference in scoring (73.9), but have no player averaging in double digits. That's balance.

All-ODAC first team
Erin Hanson, Roanoke
Jessica Hunsinger, Washington & Lee
Nicole Thurston, Virginia Wesleyan
Caroline Wesley, Lynchburg
Katy Herr Lovell, Bridgewater

All-ODAC second team
Carolyn Riley, Eastern Mennonite
Sara Rechnitzer, Randolph-Macon Woman's
Lindsay Riesbeck, Randolph-Macon
Molly Ariail, Randolph-Macon
Michelle Dove, Virginia Wesleyan

It's really tough choosing the second team ... BC and VWC both have a couple more players that are more than deserving, as well as the top players from teams like E&H and Guilford.

Anyway, just thought'd I'll see what people thought about the ODAC overall so far.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 22, 2007, 02:29:02 pm
Matt, did you ever figure out where Katy Herr Lovell ranks at BC in the steal category?

Thanks to the sports info dept. at BC, they now list the career steals leaders at BC;

http://www.bridgewater.edu/index.php?id=1214
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 22, 2007, 10:25:08 pm
Wow this is great some real conversation  ;D. Lots of fun games left. EMU gets their first shot at the Marlins Tuesday. The Royals usually play VW tough, but the Marlins need to hold court at home. BC at Macon is a HUGE game. The winner stays at the most one game back of the top, the best the loser can hope is that VWC falls too. A split between the two schools really hurts them both in the regular season standings, assuming VWC wins at least the games they should. (I am trying to do the math here if Macon and BC split that will give them 3 losses each. That would mean VWC could stumble one more time and still remain in front) Not that any of this really matters because after what we have seen this season seeds for the tournament may not mean a thing.

Kid, I was very interested in your all ODAC teams. Even as a Marlin fan I think it is hard to put any VWC player on the first team for sure and maybe even the second team. Not that the Marlins don’t have players with the talent to be mention, but the team is so balanced that picking one player over any other is nearly impossible. I think Thurston has had a great season and so has Dove, but looking down the roster so many players have made contributions to the success of the team that I think it is hard to reward just one (or two)

Looking at the marlins season stats no player is averaging double figure points (Jones 9.4 leads the way) 6 players averaging 20+ min and 5 others averaging 12+. 9 different players have lead the Marlins in scoring  in a single game including 7 different in the last 7 games. I didn’t look at other teams I would be interested in seeing if any team is close to that. Let me know what you guys/gals find!

  ;D TEAM CONVERSTAIONS HURRAY!!!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 23, 2007, 03:45:59 pm
It's Separation Tuesday in the ODAC ... six of the top seven teams play one another:


No. 2 Bridgewater (http://www.broadcastmonsters.com/Bridgewater/bridgewater012307.asx) (9-2) at No. 3 Randolph-Macon (http://www.sportsjuice.com/broadcaster2.aspx?bid=NTg%3d-Zz%2bY%2b1HkwNU%3d#) (8-2)

No. 7 Washington & Lee (http://helix.wlur.wlu.edu/ramgen/broadcast/live1.rm) (4-7) at No. 5 Guilford (http://secure.stretchinternet.com/live.php?user=guilford&id=18352) (6-5)

No. 4 Eastern Mennonite (7-3) at No. 1 Virginia Wesleyan (http://stream.futuremediaworld.com/?stream=/line1) (11-1)


Click on teams above for their school's webcast of the game.

Also, the EMU-VWC game will have live stats (click here (http://www.vwc.edu/athletics/wbasketball/live/xlive.htm)).
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: baller116 on January 23, 2007, 09:43:47 pm
wow what a night.... W&L over Guilford, EMU over VWC, and RMC over BC. This should certainly make things interesting.. ;D
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on January 23, 2007, 10:02:35 pm
Just got back from RMC-BC game.  BRUTAL!!  48 fouls...and they were only the ones that were called.   Childs and Henderson fouled out for BC and Riesbeck and Ariail fouled out for RMC. [Ariail fouled out with only 11 minutes of play!]

RMC hit only 2 of 7 FTs in the 1st half, but hit 18 of 22  FTs in 2nd half.

I know early posts included comments about the level of contribution that Morgan  makes to RMC team, but she played a tremendous game tonight sticking to Herr-Lovell like glue and holding her to under 10 points.

BC killed RMC on the boards getting shot after shot on the offensive end as well as often holding RMC to one shot at the other end.

Ball movement and patience kept RMC in the game and their free throw shooting won it for them.

I'd say there are no easy games left on the schedule for any ODAC team the rest of the year given tonights results across the conference.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 23, 2007, 10:18:21 pm
Marlins shoot 1-22 from 3 point range. Got a huge night from Thurston but didnt knock down ANY shots from the outside. EMU looked like they frustrated VWC some with thier pressure. A good win for the royals and WOW wide open now!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: valleybballfan on January 23, 2007, 10:30:28 pm
I also just got back from the BC vs. RMC game, and I thought Morgan did decent, but I also thought Katy did not have much help. She could have had a lot more assists if BC weren't in such a slump shooting. Katy got by Morgan a good number of times and delivered good passes to her teammates, who just couldn't finish.

 I was talking with a father of one of the freshmen on the Eagles' squad the other day who goes to all the games, and he said no one has been playing very good at all except for Katy. She has been the only steady factor. She has also been in a shooting slump like the rest of the team, but has continued to hustle, get rebounds, assists, steals, and contribute while some of the gals are just not playing good right now.

BC will have to turn it around if they want to do well after the regular season is over and done with.

I don't think any team in the ODAC stands out above the rest, it's all about who wants it more on a given night and who brings their A game.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: GAVA on January 23, 2007, 10:33:49 pm
Just got back from RMC-BC game.  BRUTAL!!  48 fouls...and they were only the ones that were called.   Childs and Henderson fouled out for BC and Riesbeck and Ariail fouled out for RMC. [Ariail fouled out with only 11 minutes of play!]

RMC hit only 2 of 7 FTs in the 1st half, but hit 18 of 22  FTs in 2nd half.

I know early posts included comments about the level of contribution that Morgan  makes to RMC team, but she played a tremendous game tonight sticking to Herr-Lovell like glue and holding her to under 10 points.


I think the earlier posts were regarding Morgan's lack of offense not defense. Tonight she scored 1 point in 37 minutes. Certainly not the offensive threat at point guard that Silva was. Huge game for Reisbeck and Hiltunen with 23 and 22 points.  Bodes well for RMC this year and the next couple years to come.
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on January 23, 2007, 10:34:17 pm
I know they said that coming into night Katy Herr Lovell needed only 2 points and 2 rebounds to break into the top 10 all time list for both of those categories at BC, and she did that tonight in the loss. She is also #1 in steals and #4 in assists, so congratulations to Katy on now ranking among the top 10 in all four of those categories.

(I hope that is okay to make a comment about an individual's achievement, I know this board is all about team now, just like the new NBA commercials, "it takes 5" I guess this board is caught up in that spirit ;D)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odac fan 4 life on January 23, 2007, 10:37:13 pm
Now, a post about team.....

WOW! This league is wide open right now, and how about W&L! They are on a little bit of a streak themselves. I agree with valley, no one is that much better then anyone in this conference, it all depends on who shows up to play. I think it is still very much up in the air to who will finish first for the regular season.

BC is in a slump, but I have seem them play when they are not, and if they start playing the way they are capable of playing then watch out!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: odacbballfan on January 23, 2007, 10:55:53 pm
Haha just to show i can.........

Thurston 17 points 13 rebounds, 5 blocks in 29 min.

Maybe I would put her on the all odac team kid......  ;)
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Old School Marlin on January 24, 2007, 04:26:09 am
Ugh, FIVE points, THREE points, ONE point!  Could these games be any more agonizing??!!  "A" game? - I'm not sure you'd call it that- that winning edge isn't anything super spectacular - but some of the underdogs are certainly getting the job done.  Some wake up calls for sure going into the final stretch.  Learn and move on and step up your game time!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 24, 2007, 08:39:22 am
With three games in the loss category separating fourth and fifth place in the ODAC standings, here is a look at the top half with when they play one another:

1 - Virginia Wesleyan (11-2)
2 - Randolph-Macon (9-2)
3 - Bridgewater (9-3)
4 - Eastern Mennonite (8-3)

Feb. 3 - Virginia Wesleyan at Randolph-Macon
Feb. 7 - Randolph-Macon at Bridgewater
Feb. 10 - Bridgewater at Virginia Wesleyan
Feb. 13 - Eastern Mennonite at Randolph-Macon
Feb. 17 - Virginia Wesleyan at Eastern Mennonite

Here are the records of those four schools against the others in the top four:

1 - Bridgewater (3-1: 2-0 vs EMU, 1-0 vs VWC, 0-1 vs R-MC)
2 - Randolph-Macon (2-1: 1-0 vs BC, 1-0 EMU, 0-1 VWC)
3 - Virginia Wesleyan (1-2: 1-0 vs R-MC, 0-1 BC, 0-1 EMU)
4 - Eastern Mennonite (1-3: 1-0 vs VWC, 0-1 R-MC, 0-2 vs BC)

I believe BC, R-MC, and VWC control their own destiny - for the tournament's No. 1 seed - if they can win out.

Lots of ODAC left!  Should be fun!
Title: Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 24, 2007, 09:15:12 am
It sounds too simple to be true, but after looking over BC's box scores, it's the main reason I can find for the losses; shooting.

The Eagles' four worst shooting performances of the season...

26.8% in a loss against George Fox
34.3% in a loss against Washington & Lee
34.9% in a loss against Roanoke
37.