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Title: GSAC
Post by: coachwgh on November 09, 2005, 07:30:40 am
Just figured I would try to stir up some interest on the women's side of our conference.  They now have 8 members and are just waiting on the legislative wheels of the NCAA to turn and give them the AQ for the conference tournament champ.  That is a great situation to be in.  To me, watching from the men's side, women's basketball has a lot of parody throughout conference play.  Yeah, you have one or two top teams that nobody touches but after that it is a battle to figure out how it will all finish out.  I hope their are some proud GSAC fans out there that can keep this thing rolling.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on November 10, 2005, 11:50:37 pm
Glad to see someone else is interested in the ladies. How do you think this year will play out?  Anyone have an opinion on the ladies of the GSAC?  :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on November 19, 2005, 10:43:10 pm
 I can't believe no one has an opinion on the ladies. The Lady Scots split their games this weekend. They lost to Swanee because of fouls . If you took away the 32 points on free throws it wouldn't even been close. Maryville should have taken that tournament.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 21, 2005, 11:21:38 pm
So the question is, can anybody in the GSAC other than Piedmont stay in the gym with Murvul?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on November 22, 2005, 12:11:15 am
I think HC has improved but I am not sure of anyone else. What is your opinion?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 23, 2005, 08:28:07 pm
With so little press and d3hoops discussion about the teams, it is really hard to know what various teams have.  Coach Bell thinks the Scots are ready to do better than their normal first  or second round game in the NCAA tourney (according to the newspaper article last week in the Daily Times) but then they fool around and lose to Sewanee (again).  They sure play a lot of people!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on November 24, 2005, 08:53:38 am
 They turned the ball over to much and the fouls kept Sewanee in that game they should have never lost to them. You are right they do play a lot of people and in my opinion the can be a bad thing. Their best players get less playing time and that could hurt them in the long run. I think they have a better team than I have seen in a while. There is some girls that can play ball. You have returning players like Bain and Uner,Dalton and they have added some freshmen Munday,McConnell and then there is a couple of juniors Plemmons and Grant.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on December 08, 2005, 06:31:55 pm
So no one has an opinion on the ladies side of things. I wonder what is going on with Agnes Scott beating both Huntingdon and Piedmont. Are things changing ?  ???
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on December 12, 2005, 05:17:37 pm
Agnes Scott is 3-0 !!!! They lead the ladies side of things with Maryville second. The ladies of Maryville are doing well his five starters play good together and they all can score.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mattgrubb on December 14, 2005, 03:15:37 pm
Dee Bell is the greatest coach in the world
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 06, 2006, 04:24:31 pm
Who do you think will be conference champs on the ladies side? How do you think the Lady Scots will  be come conference time? Somebody  anybody let's get things heated up on this end!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 08, 2006, 01:32:31 am
Congratulations to Charise Bain she has reached 1000 points in her career at MC. She was recognized at the beginning of the game last night. I believe that she also has over 500 rebounds. The ladies won big time over LaGrange everyone got playing time. Good job ladies.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 08, 2006, 01:43:26 am
I would like to see a starting line up for the ladies with Katie P Charise,Andrea P,Reed and Uner. Then his second wave could be Natalie ,Coleen,Saxe and Dalton and Lauren Grant.That would be a double threat and he would be mixing up his shooters and ball handlers. Just an idea coach
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 09, 2006, 01:20:20 pm
That indeed would be great line up, but chemistry may be a problem especially considering Plemons' effort is not very good.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 09, 2006, 01:24:20 pm
Another weak link would Parton's inability to score and Charise's lack of size, but Coach Bell is loaded with talent I bet practice is a battle...I agree let's stir this site up
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 09, 2006, 02:41:10 pm
Plemmons can be good I think she just needs a confidence builder or in place of of her put Whitney. The thing with Parton is she is a team player and her and Charise seem to play well together. They aren't selfish and they both look for the open shots. For what it is worth I think that line up makes more sense.Charise may not have the height but she plays like she has. She doesn't seem to be intimidated.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 09, 2006, 03:20:32 pm
this is fun some true feedback how refreshing...whitney is an excellent defender and I understand her attitude is improving, but I am not convinced she can score although she may be the best athlete on the team.  plemons has a ton of potential but it is just that potential she has not been there each night and she turns the ball over way too much...playing colleen and beth together may be a ticket worth punching
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 09, 2006, 05:05:10 pm
I thought of that combo also but wasn't sure about a second team ball handler.I agree it's about time for some talk on this side. I have felt that the lady scots are overlooked. We haven't had a player of the week in our conference for since the 03-04 season. Charise got it right before the conference tournament. I know we have had some girls that deserved getting it last year: Charise,Uner and Jenny for starters. I still think that the scots have one of the best teams they have had in a while. Instead of one or two scorers you have quite a few and it's hard to know who to defend.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 10, 2006, 07:31:48 am
You are very wise...Ican tell that you watch the Lady Scots on the regular.   Charise, Uner, Plemons, Munday, Saxe, Dalton all have the ability to score big numbers.   If Coach Bell could get them focused as one unit for the remainder of the season they won't be touched and will sneak up on teams in the post season.  Playing a tough schedule will also pan out for them in the long run.  I heard Bell has a new shooter what is the word on that!  Could that give him a 7th scoring option along with all the other role players.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 10, 2006, 10:28:28 am
Yes I try to be at most games. You are correct about them playing as a unit they tend to be one dimensional. The outside shooters sometimes don't look in and see what is open.We will have wide open people right under the goal and they will jack up a three and miss.Sometimes they are bad about shooting from the outside when we have no one underneath to rebound. We are getting better about rebounding though. Saxe and Bain are both doing a great job pounding the boards. I agree the tough schedule will help them in the long run with the conference kinda weak. Koral is the new one she was 5-6 on Saturday but 1-7 on Sunday.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 10, 2006, 12:51:00 pm
Maryville beat LaGrange by 41
Maryville beat Huntingdon by 42
Huntingdon beat Fisk by 39
LaGrange beat Fisk by 59
Any prediction on how bad Maryville beats Fisk?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 10, 2006, 02:13:35 pm
I have a feeling that the starters will not get much playing time Wednesday night. will try to reign in his shooters on this one. He is not one to try to run up the score.I am not sure on a score though I think in the 100's for MC but I don't know about Fisk for some reason teams seem to play way above themselves when they play us.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 10, 2006, 02:17:41 pm
Running the score up is not Bell's style...if I remember correctly his third team played a number of minutes in each game last weekend...the margin of victory will be wide, but it will have a touch of class to it...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 10, 2006, 04:24:01 pm
I haven't made it to see the L Scots yet but did listen on the radio Sat. and Sunday.  If I remember, Koral was a pretty bigtime highschool player who signed DI.  Where'd she come from?   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 10, 2006, 05:14:32 pm
Koral came from UNC Pembroke. I am not sure about any other details. That just gives us another gun. With so many able to score it will be hard to stop the lady scots.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 11, 2006, 01:37:17 am
okay what will be the score for fisk and the lady scots? What about this weekend with piedmont? 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 11, 2006, 07:49:58 am
I think Bell will keep the score respectable i(n the 50's), but PC is a different story. The are well coached and have talent at each position.  The Scots are deeper and perhaps will be able to utilize its depth.   On a comment you made earlier about Bain.  One of my favorite Scots of all time in recent history...she is tough, gritty and seems to be extremely coachable.  I don't if you listen to the radio shows, but Coach Bell sings her praises often.  The word is PC's coach is really good looking so I guess Bell finally loses something in the conference already.  Late nite post get some sleep.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 11, 2006, 11:09:56 am
Piedmont must have a new coach if he/she is "good looking!"
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 11, 2006, 02:25:02 pm
I think the scots will have their hands full with PC they have height and talent. Fisk will play better against us than they do most teams. They always do but it still will be a run away. I also enjoy watching Bain she is all the things you said. I also enjoy watching Uner but sometimes Uner doesn't seem to give it her all. Bain seems to give everything all the time. She may not have a good offensive night but she will make up for it on the defensive side. I also think she has become a more rounded player this year. I also think that Jones has improved a lot also.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 12, 2006, 02:43:56 pm
What about the ladies games last night? I knew MC would be in the 100"s and it would have been a lot higher if Bell had not reigned in his players. His third team played most of the second half. I think that Bell should go with a starting line up of Reed,Uner,Parton, Bain and Dalton. His second should be Colleen,Plemmons,Saxe, Munday, and Jones. What's with Munday she lookslike she had rather be anywhere but on the court?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 13, 2006, 08:15:08 am
Give that guy a break about who starts here or there.  The truth of the matter is, the line up should depend on the opponent that the ladies face each night.   What is the love affair with starting Katie Parton.   You mentioned that Bain and Parton play well together, but did you notice that Bain plays well with everyone, she is that good!   Parton provide a strong post that can defend on the block.  It sound like you are an expert on line-ups.   It seems to me that Bell deserves a little more credit for who plays and when they play...I mean he is at practice everyday, watching game tapes, ansd doing the scotuing report.  I hope that the lady scots will buy into ideal of system like the men's basketball team has.  No one ever questions Lambert on who should play and who shouldn't and the two programs are comparable.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 13, 2006, 10:29:51 am
I am not an expert on starting line ups. It is just that I feel like that is a good fit and the fact that this is the last year Parton and Bain will play. I would like to see more of them on the court. You are right though Bain plays well with everyone!! I really would like to see more playing time out of her. I realize that he is at practices and I am not  but to me I see the games and when someone is not giving much of an effort (ie Munday at Fisk) then that player needs to sit down and let someone else like Parton and Bain play more.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 13, 2006, 11:14:11 am
Effort is one thing and results are another.  Munday is rostered at 6 feet Parton at best 5-9...do the math...the stats are posted on the MC web page, before the Fisk game Parton 2 ppg...Munday almost 10. Parton 2 rpg...Munday 4 rpg...Parton 5 steals...Munday13...Who care if she smiles or frowns when she plays the numbers and stats support Bell.  Playing becaus you are a senior is high schoolish and not becoming of college program.  Bain needs more minutes which she will get in close games...Saxe has been unreal of late...Munday's stats speak for themself...Summer perhaps the team MVP plays because she plays 2 spots on the floor...and Stache can stroke it...Parton's role is starting to seem smaller and smaller as the season progresses...Bell will worry about playing seniors on senior nite (that is what that game is for).  If you question the Ladies I bet they would tell who should be on the floor Parton or Munday!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: powerhour on January 13, 2006, 12:07:21 pm
OK, so here is the real scoop I just finished lunch with Coach Bell...a.k.a. Mr. Bell...I happen to work in thebuilding where he teaches, so with that said I, as you can tell, am huge fan, since I know the work he puts in to it.  He let me in on that fact that Parton contributions are hard to measure  (no doubt look at the stats) but she has played a huge role in his success over the past 3 seasons.  He also mentioned Parton is the sme players she has always been, but recruiting has caught up to her.  So I apologize Lady Scots Fan for the harsh stance with the stats...for I have never been to a practice and just really started to take an interest in Bell's team hear of late.  I want the best for Bell and all of the lady scots.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 13, 2006, 12:26:28 pm
I understand you're look from a stats point of view. Bain has been leading scorer for two years now and she has been one of the top scorers when Haley was there. I just hate the fact that her and Parton have hung in there and just because you have other strong players their minutes have been drastically cut.
Bain lately hasn't had many chances to score lately. She sometimes only gets the ball five or six times in the whole game. To play 19 minutes and still be one of the top in scores says a lot. There are other teams whose  players play 25 minutes or more and they average about the same in points. I would really like to see her get more minutes.Let her go out with a great year!!!! I will miss her next year but  will be there cheering on the team. I have no one on the team but enjoy watching them.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on January 13, 2006, 06:55:22 pm
Well I have never really visited the Women's message board and seeing most of these players for 3 years now I have some insight  on the situation.. There is no doubt that Bain has had as a consistent career as anyone Coach Bell has ever coached but she won't be more productive if given more minutes.. The minutes she is given depends on who we play and defensive match-ups and honestly I think are plenty to be a productive player like she is.. She is an undersized post player and is a liability on defense due to her size.. If there is anyone who needs more playing time is Katie Saxe.. In my opinion by far the best post player in the conference and could be if she picks it up here in conference play to be 1st Team All Conference...
  Best line-up if they decided to work on a consistent basis in practice and in games would be: Reed at point, Andy and Uner at the wings, Munday at the 4, and Saxe at Center... But what looks good on paper sometimes does not pan out in the games so the line-up of Reed,Uner,Saxe,Munday,and Dalton is by far the best... Dalton has been an absolute treat to Coach and watch..

P.S. I Coach at the college and believe Coach Bell does as good a job as any coach can possibly do.. 4 consecutive Conference Championships, has over 90 wins in 4 years which means he averages 20 a year and last but not least 4 Consecutive NCAA Tournament apperances.... This is my last post but I hope it clears the air on why people play...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 14, 2006, 12:27:28 am
I disagree with you on Bain being a liability defensively maybe last year but this year I have seen her mature in that role. She has become a more rounded player. I also think that she would be more productive given more playing time.She would have more opportunity to score etc. Saxe has gotten better this year. She has worked hard in the off season as has Bain and it shows in the way they play. Dalton is a great shooter with a smooth touch but she sometimes lacks it defensively. Mundays stats maybe good but she lacks the drive she looks like she is just going thru the motions sometimes. She doesn't defend at all.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 15, 2006, 03:25:13 pm
So what about the game at PC yesterday? It sounded from the radio that Dalton,Saxe was not a factor in that game. Plemmons stepped it up and Bain played like she usually does very consisent. Munday had her moments. What really happened with Uner and their player? How could so many fouls get called?It also sounded like that the fouls that was called on MC was ones in which PC got to shoot free throws and MC really mainly got to take out the ball. Someone that was there share the details with me.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on January 15, 2006, 05:47:08 pm
Its funny how you keep worrying about Bain this Parton that and as LADY SCOT fan forget to realize that all that matter is the W... (which stands for win).. Who cares about anything else: playing time, line-ups, points, rebounds etc... The Lady Scots are playing their best basketball here as of late and that is all that matters.. Big games Wednesday against Sewanee and Satruday Agnes Scott..

 As for the game Saturday Uner and Saxe did not have to be a factor because it was a blow out... So everyone played thats the way things go sometimes.. And in regards to Munday from top to bottom there is not a post player on the Scots team or GSAC conference who is better than her, that is as effective inside n out as Munday is(Offensively).. (SO GET OFF HER BACK!!) Ms. Lady Scots I enjoy your comments but if you could just forget about the "other things" and realize like I said before, all that matters is WINNING!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 15, 2006, 10:17:39 pm
no wonder your karma is a negative!! who said I was worrying about Bain or Parton.In my last post I didn't even mention anything about their playing time or anything. I also undestand that winning is important. All I ask was about the game this weekend. Since I wasn't able to be there I was just wondering about things. In one post you go on and on about Saxe being the best in the GSAC and the next you say Munday is . Then you talk about Dalton being the MVP of the GSAC. I'm confused which is it? I don't think I am on Munday's back, you shouldn't get all defensive it's just questions that I pose. All that matters is not just winning character and morals play an important factor also. After all it is just a game.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on January 16, 2006, 12:02:35 am
Karma??? Negative?? Don't understand what are you are implying...
 But to respond to your comment I never said Dalton was the MVP of the GSAC.. Show me where I said that... Second Katie Saxe is potentially the best player in the GSAC.. Next I said Munday was offensively the best.. I suggest when you post that you understand basketball first!!!!!!!
  And you have totally gone off base ,of course character and morals play a big part but my comment were based on your consecutive posts concerning so much playing time for Bain and Parton.I believe Coach Bell does a great job incorporating those important aspects of life. To conclude I have to disagree "ITS NOT JUST A GAME"!!
  I was not going to post again but your comment was totally off base..
P.S. There is no doubt Bain has been a great player through her 4 years but there is a lot more competition at her position this year and that at the end is why she plays what she plays.. Oh by the way I dont think anyone plays more than 23 minutes a game but Beth Reed... No more posts for me anymore, best of luck to everyone and see you at the next game at Sewanee i know you will be there...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 16, 2006, 12:09:34 am
The Lady Scots are playing their best basketball here as of late and that is all that matters.. Big games Wednesday against Sewanee and Satruday Agnes Scott..

Sewanee's barely a .500 team and is 1-4 in SCAC play.  Wowsers. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 16, 2006, 01:36:12 pm
It is a key that the ladies win this against Sewanee. They came close twice but could not close.  GSAC killer is correct they have been playing their best bball as of lately and they do look more comfortable playing together.I think this is the strongest team in the last six or seven years. I am not just down on them I would like to see more consisent play out of a few. I will not be at Sewanee but I will try to listen on the radio. I hate to miss but work calls. GOOD LUCK LADIES!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 17, 2006, 04:27:52 pm
Ron:  I get your point!  And I agree that MC cannot afford to lose again to Sewanee and expect any respect at NCAA bid time.  I bet the L. Scots have been discussing this!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 17, 2006, 06:22:34 pm
scottiedoug, I can foresee 11-12 more South Region games for the Lady Scots, including the GSAC post-season tourney.

The Lady Scots' running the table will give them 19-20 wins against 4 losses.  That may be enough to earn a Pool B bid. :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 18, 2006, 04:01:06 pm
Ralph:  I hope your observation turns out to be an accurate prediction!   Starting tonight at Sewanee.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ron Boerger on January 19, 2006, 09:19:29 am
Ralph's pretty sharp, congrats to Maryville on last night's nail-biting win (http://www.d3hoops.com/releases.php?release=48598).
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 20, 2006, 09:59:46 am
Congrats Ladt Scots on your win at Sewanee!! I just got back in town and I was glad to see that you pulled it out.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 25, 2006, 11:56:43 am
Lady Scots have another tough game Saturday against Piedmont. They will need everybody playing hard to get this win. Piedmont will be out for blood because they were trounced at home.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on January 29, 2006, 09:05:56 am
The Ladies took care of Piedmont Saturday the lions were never in the game! They are really playing better now as a complete team. I still do not understand the reasoning in Bain and Parton not getting the playing time they deserve. They have proved themselves for four years and it is like they have been set aside as not as important now that they will be graduating.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 29, 2006, 05:52:40 pm
lady scots fan:

Coach Bell's job is to put on the floor the best he has.  It is not a seniority system!   Even in DIII.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lady scots fan on February 01, 2006, 10:03:28 am
To the real Fan  in reading your post today it makes me realize how I have been percieved. Though I never meant to do anything to bring harm to a team my comments was viewed that way. I would like to tell you that your comments struck a nerve with me. I have several people in which to apologize to.

   #1 Coach  I deeply apologize to you for what seems to be a questioning of your ability to coach. YOU ARE A GREAT COACH and PERSON.  I never meant to say anything different. I would never want to step in your shoes. I know you seem to truly care for the girls and their best interest.

#2 TO THE LADIES I absolutely never wanted to bring you down. I have nothing but the upmost respect for each and everyone of you. I admire you and have pride that you as young women can juggle school,practice and games. That says a lot about you as a person. 

I agree with the real Fan that you have a shot to go further this year than they have in the past.There is so MANY TALENTED players and it is a pleasure to watch them when I can come to the games. They have matured and grown as a group.  If anything that I have done has been deemed as hurtful or spiteful then I truly am sorry. GO LADY SCOTS
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 01, 2006, 12:15:54 pm

In the early part of the real FAN's post, he/she says," And plus didn't your mama teach you if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all?"  At the end, we read,"
{M}ay the team overcome such ignorance!"

Which is it?  Or is calling people ignorant being nice?   

And just for fun, what part of what I said is evidence of "ignorance?"  Or is it that everyone else just IS ignorant and thus whatever we might say just must be?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on February 08, 2006, 01:03:29 pm
Coach Bell gets his 100th Win Saturday!!! Go Scots!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 01, 2006, 10:49:09 pm
Hey GSACKiller:  Your lady scots played tonight like you and Dee Bell used to!  Go Get 'Em!  If you can run one SCAC team out the gym, why not the next one?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: coachwgh on March 06, 2006, 08:47:41 am
I think the playing of Maryville in the 2nd round of the tournament against the only team in the deal that got a bye is a little unfair.  I know you got to beat everybody eventually and DIII doesn't seed teams but who cares about geography when obviously there are worse teams to pair up against the #1 seed.  It just shows that this system is flawed. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 06, 2006, 03:53:34 pm
I think the playing of Maryville in the 2nd round of the tournament against the only team in the deal that got a bye is a little unfair.  I know you got to beat everybody eventually and DIII doesn't seed teams but who cares about geography when obviously there are worse teams to pair up against the #1 seed.  It just shows that this system is flawed. 

Coach, I would interpret the Maryville-Oglethorpe game as the 8/9 game in a pure 16-team bracket.

If there were geographic considerations, then it might vary, but Pat Coleman seeded this as #9 Oglethorpe at #12 Maryville TN.

http://www.d3hoops.com/springfield/06/preview.htm
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 06, 2006, 04:51:36 pm
Here is the link to the Maryville newspaper article about Maryville-DePauw game.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/231787
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2006, 03:37:21 am
I think the playing of Maryville in the 2nd round of the tournament against the only team in the deal that got a bye is a little unfair.  I know you got to beat everybody eventually and DIII doesn't seed teams but who cares about geography when obviously there are worse teams to pair up against the #1 seed.  It just shows that this system is flawed. 

Not in the second round, sir. This isn't where the worst team in the tournament plays. The worst team in the tournament plays in the FIRST round against the No. 2 team in the field, in a perfectly seeded world.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 01, 2006, 10:35:06 am
What's the word on the 2 recruits Coach Bell just signed, Draper from Knox Farragut and Walker from Walker Valley. They both got some good press. Seems as if he added some size with Draper, and some quickness on defense and scoring with Walker. Any comments?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on June 08, 2006, 01:58:46 pm
The Lady Scots will go undefeated in the conference again and reach the NCAA Tournament for a record 10years in a row??
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 14, 2006, 11:42:42 am
GSAC Killer:  Can you tell us about Dee's recruits and will Plemons get out of whatever doghouse she fell into?  I thought she was going to be a big part of why your previous post makes sense to me.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on June 20, 2006, 08:31:43 am
Dee will be successful with or without Plemmons.. Although she is an exceptional player her lack of commitment to her academics and consistency on getting better as a basketball players have got her in the doghouse and basically kicked off the team for good...
  Dee can possibly make it to the Final Four next season. He has a recruit I helped him out with coming in from Miami and a big girl he recruited from Seymour who will be impact players this season.. 1st Team All Freshman and one of them will be Freshman of the Year...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 20, 2006, 11:56:16 am
It is too bad about Plemmons.  She is great fun to watch play!  Then again, Maryville College is also a pretty serious school and I would not want it otherwise.

Good luck in Sevier County!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on June 20, 2006, 01:58:11 pm
Its a 50-50 deal with Coach Bell.. You take care of your business in the classroom then the other 50 you deserve. Its a priviledge to play College basketball but education always has to come first..

  Hopefully we can turn around GP to a winnning ball club...  Coach Beaty and I have a lot to work on... It should be fun! Thanks for the luck we will need it..
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 21, 2006, 12:04:30 pm
If you two cannot do it, then it cannot be done.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 23, 2006, 09:25:24 am
GSAC Killer:

Seems as if last year MC didn't have a problem scoring, but had problems, especially in the NCAA tournament stopping people. What has he done to upgrade on the defensive end and who will take up the scoring slack since Plemmons seems to be history?

Final Four? Wow....will the 5 new peeps make that much of a different combining with the returning players?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on June 23, 2006, 10:36:19 am
 I think Coach Bell has learned a lot in mixing up defenses.. In my opinion we got bette ron defense as teh season went along. We went from strictly a pressing team to a team who mixed it up  a lot. I believe the system we both implemented last year will benefit even more this year just because its a core group coming back doing it for a second time.

  The offensive slack will be picked up by Natalie and the surprise of the upcomign season Beth Reed.. If she works on her game the way I think she would you might be talking about the player of the year in the Conference this year.. Melissa Uner also needs to shoot the ball more...
  I think the recruits and returning players have a legitimate chance at making the Final Four...
  And then hopefully someoen will see how TALENTED COACH BELL IS and give him a Full Time Coaching job which he so deserves...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 23, 2006, 12:19:46 pm
Pretty high expectations for a team who got bounced in the 2nd round last year by 20+ and lost their second leading scorer.

You only spoke of 2 freshman, the guard from Miami and the post from Seymour. What about the 2 kids from Farragut and the kid from Walker Valley. What do they bring and will they get any minutes? Will he have the depth to play 10 deep again this year, which I felt helped and hurt at times last year.

Since you and the young lady have moved on, congrats also, who will assist Dee?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on June 23, 2006, 04:11:40 pm
I dont think the 10 player rotation hurt us at all... Are mind set in the beginning of the year was a little different than towards the end..
  The guard from Faragaut is good.. I like her size...
    Starters in my opinion of course:
 Beth Reed                      Karina Gass
 Melissa Uner                   Jenny Hinds
 Collen                             Faragaut Guard
 Summer                          Seymour Forward
 Natalie Munday               Katie Saxe
   Thats my Top 10... On his assistant dont have a clue...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 23, 2006, 04:41:42 pm
Isn't Whitney returning? If so, didn't she play alot last year and even started a few games. Where does she fit in the picture?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on June 23, 2006, 04:58:51 pm
My comments are based on what I see and would do if I was the man in charge.. I dont like Whitney's game... Does not fit with what I would like to do...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 24, 2006, 07:35:12 pm
Have you been to any of their open gyms so far?  How far away is Natalie from being ready to play with that foot?

Why would you start Collen in front of Katie when Katie was a starter last year? Who would run the point in the second group, thats knows the offense well enough, if Collen started?

Also, looking at last season's cumulative stats, scoring could be a problem, if someone doesn't step up. They should get tested in the Va tournament, don't you think?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on June 26, 2006, 04:46:22 pm
No I have not... Work has got me away from the MC life.. I would start Colleen at the 2 because I think it fits her game more. I don't think she makes the best decisions in the world.. The PG coming in from Miami is as good or better than all of the freshman PG's who have come to MC in 5 to 6 years..
 With a line-up of Collen, Beth, and Uner you have 3 lock down defenders at the wing.. It also provides a preesing team.. Katie Saxe in my opinion , if she did not get better this summer should be replaced in the starting line-up..

  Scoring won't be an issue because Dee will put the girls in the right situation to score points.. Trust me losing Andy, Rese, and Parton is a big deal becasue of there maturity and strengths but the line-up I put out there will be a succesful one !!! But remember I am not the man in charge...
  Dee and myself learned a lot about coaching in the beginning of a season and I know you will see a better start this season with the Lady Scots!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 27, 2006, 04:34:34 pm
Killer;  You never mention Stache.  Can she fit Dee's system and contribute?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 27, 2006, 08:15:13 pm
I thought Stache quit ?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 30, 2006, 11:35:35 am
Koral Stache is listed on the roster, which includes the incoming new people....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 03, 2006, 08:27:26 am
Stache is a situational player... If there is not too much athleticism on the floor she can play.. And of course if Zones are being played let em FLY STACHE!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 13, 2006, 10:57:26 pm
Killer,

Dee resigned today to go to Reinhard!

It's kind of a suprise to me, but I guess a jump to NAIA is a move upward, even though he will have his work cut out at Reinhardt. They were terrible last year. Watched them play a couple of times against Cleveland State and Lee University.

Leaving had to be tough on him and his players, old and new-comers.

Any comments?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 14, 2006, 08:11:42 am
Dee will be fine... Its a great fit!! They were also a 24 win ball clube two years ago with all those players coming back. Dee will have scholarships will be his biggest advantage.. Like I posted on the men's side he is an exceptional recruiter..
  I know its tough on the ladies I just hope they have the final say so on who they will play for.. It is going to be a huge transition for the girls learning to play and confide in a new coach in so such a short time... They did to bring someone who assimilates Coach Bell's style and work ethic... Who know who that can be???
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 14, 2006, 09:50:31 am
Sounds like it could be a good fit for you. You know the girls, know the system, the school, and your work ethics speaks for themselves.....what about it......you up for the task....somebody will be taking over a nice looking team......

Also, do you think this will have any effect on the kid's decision coming from Florida?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 14, 2006, 10:07:25 am
It could be but I don't think Randy would consider me anyways... The team is a potential Final Four Team .. I say that with all honesty. They have all the intangibles to make a run at it.I don't know what my recruit from Miami will do...
 I don't think the money is right for me or anybody.. To be a head coach you need to offer at least $30,000 and I don't think they are thinking of doing that..
  My thing is the girls need to have input on who they bring in.. Its not about Lambert or anybody else simply the girls... I feel for the seniors and recruits!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 14, 2006, 10:00:02 pm
Word is they are looking to bring in a female coach.

Something needs to be done quick, but not too quick, not just  settle, just to say they got a Head Coach. This team has major potential, I can see that. Just hope Dee leaving don't take their hearts away. Man, tough time for this to happen. Everybody was so excited about all the pieces in place....you could see it in their eyes already.....and "bam"....I hope they do something before school starts.......

What about the young lady that helped you and Dee last year. If she was interested, is she ready?



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 16, 2006, 08:12:28 pm
a girl coach?? Not good for this bunch but hey I am not calling the shots.. Anna will one day be a coach but she is not ready for Head Coaching.. Whoever they bring in is going to have a heck of a team...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 16, 2006, 08:48:56 pm
Yes, they should definitely hire a woman (or a man) before they hire a girl.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 17, 2006, 08:43:03 am
My fault WOMAN... Thanks Pat!! :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 17, 2006, 08:15:14 pm
Heard of any names being tossed around as a possible replacement?

Still surprised about him leaving. What kind of opportunity would he have gotten if he were to have taken this team to the final four or better. He probably could have landed something larger than Reinhardt I would suppose.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 18, 2006, 08:29:36 am
This is a good situation for Coach Bell.. He has had 5 very succesful seasons at MC and deserves an opportunity to see what he can do with scholarships.. I believe he will do real well and continue to move on and one day Coach Div I ball...
  Possibilities for the new job?? I don't have a clue..
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 18, 2006, 09:35:04 am
Artilce on Dee Bell...
  http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/261365
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on July 18, 2006, 10:55:27 am
The article about Dee quotes Randy Lambert as saying he is looking for a full-time women's basketball coach.  That is a change, isn't it?

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 18, 2006, 11:18:20 am
yes it is.. Dee was a teacher at Maryville Academy and then coached the College on the side... So Full TIMe coach is a change
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on July 19, 2006, 11:03:41 am
Killer:  Do you think this will help get somebody good?  Any ideas how to provide some coaching continuity?  I know you and Dee had gotten a pretty good sense of the strengths and weaknesses of the players who are coming back....

Dee was probably making pretty good money with the Maryville schools.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 19, 2006, 04:28:18 pm
I hope they do bring in someone good.. The ladies side have built a strong tradition that needs to continue...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 25, 2006, 10:44:25 pm
Any names floating around?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on July 26, 2006, 02:36:54 pm
no clue!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 31, 2006, 08:27:09 am
Heard they were bringing in a couple of peeps for interviews this week, one male, one female.

Also heard there is a possibility that some of the players expected to play this year are quiting or going elsewhere. Heard Colleen and the kid from Florida was going to Reinhardt, another of the freshman guards thought to be coming in is going to King, not sure what the kid from Seymour is doing, Lauren Grant had decided not to play.

Any info....?

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on July 31, 2006, 05:06:47 pm
Kinda figures with "volunteer" basketball like D3 that some people will rethink the situation when the coach leaves.  For the ones for whom the quality of the school and the degree is important, it may be a bit harder to go to King.  I do not know about Reinhardt.   It is about getting a college degree while playing basketball, I hope.   It is a long life after college.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 03, 2006, 07:21:54 am
Colleen was not planning on coming back so her departure does not surprise me. Lauren Grant has had back problems and was iffy this year anyways.. The  only big blow will be not having the point guard from Miami.. Thing slike this happen.. It is important to keep good people around and Maryville failed to do that by not offering Coach Bell what he wanted... Its all about MONEY MONEY MONEY!!! Especially when you are consistently makiing it to the tournament, winning conference championships and puttting up 20 wins year in and year out...

 Beesides all that they still have a great group of girl coming back... Who will the coach be???
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 03, 2006, 04:16:16 pm
Most of the players have been coming to open gym. They look to have quality and depth at all positions, except at the point. Beth is solid, but looking on the floor, the only other player that looks to handle the ball well enough and could  play the point as a backup role would be the freshman from Walker Valley. 

Melissa looks as if she could if necessary. Have not seen the other players listed on the roster as guards play, which are Whitney, Korin and Robin. Looking at last years stats, Whitney looks as if she played quite a bit. Can she play the point? Robin played a little and Korin was not on the team.

Killer, your insight?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 07, 2006, 07:35:36 am
Beth is the only true point guard the Scots have.. She is going to have a big year!! The three young ladies you named are non factors... Whitney got a lot of opportunity and did nothing with it... Great practice player...

  Have they hired a coach yet? 
 
  Top 8 players: Beth , Mel, Summer, Natalie, Saxe, Kim, Faragaut wing, big girl from Sevier County...
  The young lady from Walker Valley will be ok.. I could see her earning some minutes...
                                                             
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 07, 2006, 07:50:24 am
To round out that top 8 I also see Koral and Flemming in the mix.... A lot of pressing an falling back zone.. Not a very good defensive team...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 07, 2006, 04:33:06 pm
Offense sells tickets....defense wins championships......I'm not a fan of the zone.....peeps get lazy knowing they got help......I like that man-2-man in your face you can't beat me one on one defense.......over all team speed might kill the man to man......

Have not heard about any hiring....I think the assistant from Carson Newman that interviewd might have a very good chance from what I hear. Heard Randy liked him. I think he played ball at Maryville or something, also helped coach with Coach Wallace somewhere I believe.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 08, 2006, 07:27:21 am
I donīt know about that "GHH"..  A balanced team wins championships.. That saying of offense sells tickets and defense wins championships is a little over used now in days. As long as the team does not get lazy, a zone is as good as a man to man in your face style of defense..  The person you are referring to is a 3rd assistant on the Carson Newman staff..  It not a man its a woman...

 To go back to what I was first talking about the LA Lakers of the early 80īs played no defense but a lot of offense and they won 5 NBA championships!!
  Keeping teams guessing on what type of defenses one plays is one of the essential tools that all successful teams should have.. To be one dimensional in my opinion is not the answer...
 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 08, 2006, 10:02:16 am
Tell me how many have won since the Lakers with that style......00000.....check out the 90's and 2000's........Bullls......Jordan and company locked down...Pistons....defense........Lakers with Shaq.......Heat shut down that Dallas wide open style this year.....Thats why the East dominates.....Tim Duncan and company an exception, they play defense out of the West ....I played for Coach Terry Tippett in high school, who just left White Station in Memphis after winning so many state championships.....his thoughts.....if the other team can't score, even if you can't, you still got a chance...offense is pretty and nice for the fans....but you got to be able to make stops.......

I thought Coach Wallace said it was a man from CN interviewing...my mistake.......
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 08, 2006, 10:49:57 am
You have some good evidence but the Championship Pistons (if my memory serves me right) let opponents score over 94 pts a game is that good defense?? Did they have lock down defense when it counted of course but it depends what area of defense you choose to talk about. The Lakers with Shaq played no defense!!!!!!!!!!! Are you serious.... Heat didnt shut down the Mavericks they averaged over 90 pts a game!!

 I will take an offensive team anyday of the week over a defensive minded squad but hey thats just me.. No right or wrong between me and you just opinions...
  I hope the girls do get a qality coach who has there best interest in mind like Coach Bell had. The system and team is in place for anyone who comes in to be very successful.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on August 08, 2006, 02:47:27 pm
just to throw this out there....the team that scores more points wins the game.

As in this article, I think that the NBA has realized that offense is kind of a big deal. The article was in reference to Ben Wallace. (Of course many rules in the nba dont apply to NCAA).

Here's an excerpt:
In the old days (like, two or three years ago) that was OK, because the Pistons won with defense. But you can't win with defense in today's NBA. The new officiating guidelines -- no hand-checking, no use of the forearm along the baseline, no breathing on Dwyane Wade -- have given offenses the edge.

The Dallas and Miami players who played in the NBA Finals all have something in common: They failed to make the league's All-Defensive team. In fact, none even made the All-Defensive second team.
The last time that happened was 1981.

Dallas and Miami won with offense. Whoever wins next year will win largely because of offense. This is extremely frustrating to some old-school people, and one of those old-school people is Ben Wallace. Remember when he complained about the Pistons' emphasis on offense in the middle of the playoffs? That wasn't an isolated comment. It really bothered him.

But the Pistons had no choice. This isn't 2004. Coach Flip Saunders had to open up the offense to keep up with the rest of the league -- and that wasn't going to work for Ben, because that isn't his game.

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060713/SPORTS03/607130393/1051
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 10, 2006, 08:52:51 am
I appreciate that Wydown BLVD... My main man GHH is a good man with lots of wisdom but I just donīt agree with his take on the off-def thing...
  By the way I believe Da Ville will have a Womenīs coach pretty soon...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 10, 2006, 04:20:09 pm
Blvd / Killer: 

Chant "DEF-FENSE" , "DEF-FENSE"  ;D ;D

Check out these stats:

During the regular season: Dallas average 100 ppg, Finals 92.
                  regular season: Dallas 45% FG%, Finals 42%   
                  regular season: Dallas 3pt 32%, Finals 28%       
 
Every offensive stat went down!
Miami put the defense on them! WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!

Also, just a sidekick note, the 1972 World Champions Miami Dolphins had the #1 "DEFENSE" in the league!!!

Glad to know a Coach might be in place soon!



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 11, 2006, 08:58:19 am
A Coach has been hired. I guess the school will announce it soon. He is suppose to be at the school on Monday and meet the team Tuesday night at open gym.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 14, 2006, 08:09:13 am
Congrats on the new coach!!
 I heard he has bounced around quite a bit so donīt know if thats good or bad...
  By the way the Heat won because they had better offense!! ;)
 
 You make a valid point Mr.GHH...
 
 Best of luck this season....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on August 16, 2006, 03:55:33 pm
So a search committee of four people, three of them women, chose the man they interviewed over the woman.  GSACKiller hinted some time ago that for this group of players, a woman coach would not be a great idea.  Is Pat Summitt's glare that fearsome?

Not much in the press accounts about Mr. Pardue's coaching "successes" but he does like the same style of ball as Dee coached.   Maybe he will bring a point guard with him!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 16, 2006, 09:45:53 pm
Beginning with the 99 - 2000 season through the 05-06 season, Lees-McRae overall record is 98-99. Looks like last year, they won a few games with a player who was ineligible, noted on the school's website, so the record might be off a few games.

Scottiedoug:

Are you saying MC needs a backup point guard to Beth? If so, I agree. If this is not what you are saying, explain.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on August 16, 2006, 11:06:59 pm
Yes that is what I meant.  GSACKiller had found one, too, and Dee lured her to his squad.  No reason why not, since her h.s. coach is Dee's new assistant, but I do not know if any MC returners can play there.   Pardue hinted in the paper about a couple more recruits, including a transfer, so maybe he is bringing someone over from NC.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 17, 2006, 09:22:46 am
Because of the lateness in all of this, would be surprised if anyone new comes in this year. MC cost is a issue too. He might have to go with what he got. I would think between Mel, Whitney and Alex, he can use them just enough to give Beth some rest without getting into too much trouble.

Speaking of MC cost, heard MC could be losing one of the key main players because of financial reasons. If so, this is really, really going to hurt. Hopefully money will be found and this will get worked out to keep her here.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 18, 2006, 12:06:37 pm
money money money always an issue in life but also in sports. GHH I am not a big fan of Whitney and Alex is more of a shooter who can defend pretty well.. Donīt see her being too much of a point guard.. Rumor has it you might be losing Melissa Uner... But thats juts a rumor.. I wish the girls the best of luck and hopefully this new coach can duplicate the success Dee has implemented...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 18, 2006, 01:57:56 pm
Losing Mel would be a huge blow, more defensively than offensively I feel. We got people who can score, but can we stop anybody? Maybe we can be like the Laker's of the 80's.... ;D ::)

Mel, Whitney, Robin and Alex are the only 4 listed as guards, so I'm looking for an option. I don't remember seeing Whitney or Robin play last year when we were coming up to watch games.

You are right about Alex, mostly a shooter who can guard. Dee brought her up because of her on the ball defensive pressure ability. She can knock down open shots, especially against zones or if you a got a inside post game that requires a double team. Needs (confidence) work on her ball handling and make stronger passes. I think she could do it in spots to give Beth a break.

Coach is going to have to develop someone. Beth can't play all the time. Lord forbid, but injuries are a player in this game too. Might be kinda ugly early, but will only reap positive rewards later to have someone ready. If they get in some games early in which the score is lopsided in our favor or even a close one, might be a good time to sit Beth. Throw somebody in the fire. See what they got.  There will be turnovers you know, and you might even drop a game you should win, but better early than late. He's got to keep Beth healthy and not with tired legs when tournament times rolls around.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 23, 2006, 12:51:17 pm
Yes if you lose Mel its a huge blow!! Losing Colleen and Karina is a tremendous loss anyways...

  I am not a big fan of Whitneyīs game and the Robin girl is not a point... You guys are in a tough spot with the point guard situation.. I see some troubles for new guy just because I dont know how well he knows the girls and what to expect... I heard through the grapevine he is pretty dang demanding... Which is a good thing but not knowing the girls might present some problems...

 Alex which I believe is your daughter is not a bad player but donīt know how she will handle the point... It should be an interesting year!!

  By the way the Laker of the 80īs WOW!! WHat a Team...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 25, 2006, 02:25:28 pm
Reading the article in thedailytimes today, looks as if Mel is gone.

Guard situation gives someone an opportunity to step up and play.

I don't have a problem with him being demanding as long as he's fair with it.

I don't know if she can handle the point either, but I know she will do the best she can if called upon to try. Might be one of those things like a 2nd string QB behind a star starter. Coach will ask, don't go out and try to do things outside your ability......just run the offense, protect the ball. She played some point when we went to the 16u AAU Nationals, which was strong. She didn't in high school because our point signed with the University of Alabama. I'm sure she will get an opportunity. What she does with it, is in her hands.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on August 30, 2006, 08:56:34 am
The Lady Scots are in trouble... They still should win the Conference but I have a feeling they will drop a couple maybe even 3 games this year in the conference.. The loss of the 3 seniors along with Mel and Colleen is going to be tough to replace... The new coach has a tough job at hand.. Good Luck!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 31, 2006, 12:59:47 pm
Mel is back!!!

Not as much trouble now!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on September 01, 2006, 05:04:02 pm
Leave it to Cooper to bring us the lastest update! And a great one at that!

Reminds me of when we thought Placeres was gone SR year! Glad Coach Pardue helped her work this out.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on September 02, 2006, 12:21:00 pm
What was the issue as to why Mel was "gone?"
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on September 03, 2006, 12:06:19 am
She had accrued so much debt in her two years at MC. I think the amount for an education  can be so overwhelming these days, that it truly scares these kids and rightly so. However, she said that Coach Pardue was helpful in reworking her package with MC and she is able to continue her education. Spoke to her today and she seems very excited about the upcoming season and very happy with Coach Pardue and how things are coming together
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on September 03, 2006, 02:32:01 pm
That is good to hear.  It is too bad that as a country we make it harder and harder for anybody but wealthy kids to get a good college education.  Pell grants get smaller, incomes go down, debt and bankruptcy rates go up, etc.  These are problems not easily solved a family or college at a time.  It is good to hear Mel feels ok about the coach; she was not one of the players on the search committee.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on September 03, 2006, 02:54:51 pm
Somebody tell whoever updates MC athletic website to add her back on the roster!!!

Unreal what the costs at MC is.....talked to one guy from up there in the weight room.....said he would owe over $100,000 when he leaves....tough start into real life owing that much from the start.

I hope whatever they did, some thought was put into what they can do to keep her next year also, since she is just a Jr and probably might have the same issues next year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on September 05, 2006, 12:25:45 pm
It is a good thing they brought her back!!! Forget the sport aspect of it but for her education.. Melissa is a young lady who is very peronable and capable of amounting to great things but needs to get her schoolwork in order...
  No doubt that her being on the court will guarantee a spot in the NCAA tournament especially if she goes back to her killer attitude she had in high school...
  The lady Scots should have a real good starting line-up with Beth,Mel,Summer,Nat , and Saxe
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on September 05, 2006, 12:57:56 pm
I totally agree with you! Coach Pardue has some amazing talent to work with and I am sure there is new talent that will also be awesome!

Long after the games are over, there is a lifetime of work and successes to come! Having a college education means a lot these days and for these student athletes to get into a lot of debt and then not even graduate is tough. I hope Coach Pardue will look out for these women like Coach Lambert seems to for the men. I know the students have to be responsible for their grades but it won't hurt to have some influence and give some direction to them. Something they'll be grateful for in years to come!

I know our area high schools don't always prepare students for a college such as Maryville. It is a great injustice and these kids sometimes come in w/o even knowledge of *how* to study.

Congrats on the article in the Mountain Press, GSACKiller. It was a great one!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on September 07, 2006, 06:22:01 am
Starting lineup looks very solid......Guard position still has me a little concerned after you get by Beth and Mel. All other backup positions appears to be ok, on paper anyway. Seems as if the Coach likes a up-tempo game.

Hope Mel gets her schoolwork in order, which should be first priority for all involved anyways.

Can't wait to see the Coach coach the talent he has. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on September 07, 2006, 12:48:44 pm
Thanks!! It was a nice article... As for Coach Pardue he should be alright.. He should go 14-0 in the conference and the win 6 out of 11 non conference games and he is in the NCAA Tournament.. Its that simple...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on September 07, 2006, 04:24:53 pm
 ;) Well, you make it sound simple! I say, "Bring it on!!!"

I'm ready for the season to start!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on September 07, 2006, 06:45:42 pm
Interesting article in thedailytimes about Mel. How is she doing in her school work? Is she going to make it?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on September 08, 2006, 01:04:13 am
 ??? Quite interesting article. Hadn't seen it.  I hope she can work those grades out. Maryville isn't an easy school and too often our high schools don't prepare students for what it takes to make it there.

Not sure how her story got so confused. I thought that staff could help work things out for them to an extent.
Well, whatever the case, I hope she gets it all worked out and is back on the court and ready to play when the season starts. And, Coach Pardue has my respect for his thoughts...academics should come first.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on September 09, 2006, 11:58:14 am
Part of the point of Division III athletics is that there is supposed to me no connection between financial aid/scholarships and athletics.  That would mean the coaches should not have a role in who gets admitted or gets money.

I doubt that every D3 school plays it by the theory. 

It would be a huge disservice to recruit athletes and not be serious about insisting that they do the work it takes to graduate.  Nobody, or almost nobody, is going to go from D3 to professional sports except as a coach or administrator, and you need the degree for that or for much of a chance to get any other job that you can live on.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on September 09, 2006, 08:39:44 pm
I knew that was the "theory". I figured they might get creative or something to help players who want to play and go to that school actually do it. I don't mean anything illegal, I just thought they could help them figure out the best way to meet the goal. When it costs so much to go to these schools, I am sure you have to look at every possible angle.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on September 11, 2006, 11:34:25 am
There are people at MC whose job it is to help students deal with financing and I suspect that the coaches have good relationships with those people and make sure the players take advantage of their expertise.  That is some different from the coaches having the power themselves to make adjustments or to be able to order someone to do so.   The trick is to make sure student/athletes do not have access to money and loans that non-athlete students do not have access to.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on September 12, 2006, 06:01:41 pm
I'm sure he wanted to get the story straight quick, since he just left a situation where an ineligible player was used during the season.

He has walked into a very good situation. If he can get the ladies to buy into whatever system he runs, and can work through his guard situation, skys the limit in my opinion. He has size, shooters, and quickness. Ball handling is my only worry, if they face a team who presses full court.



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on September 14, 2006, 12:44:00 pm
How is Mel during in her school work? When is the Coach going to decide whether or not she is going to be allowed to come back and play. She is working out with them in open gym, but has not yet been added back to the roster.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on October 02, 2006, 11:42:11 am
So what is up with dropping the name "Lady Scots" and "Fighting Scots"? I am not fond of this change. The new logos are OK. The one with the sword is probably the best but I agree with kid in the DT who was quoted as saying that it was like the Titans logo.
I think it could have been better, oh well.

But why give up the term "Lady Scots"? Anyone know? Well, they'll always be the Lady Scots to me and I suppose I am stubborn enough to keep using the phrase. Maybe they have a better name in mind? ???

Just a small rant about something that will not mean anything once the Lady Scots take the floor!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on October 10, 2006, 11:56:59 pm
Mr. Grubb asked if I knew any news of the Lady Scots...

not much, I'm afraid. I don't see Mel on the roster and I'm think she may be taking time to make the grade. While I want to see her on the floor and I think we NEED her on the floor, my biggest concern is that she makes the grade.
I do not want to lose another Lady Scot because of grades and have some "would-be Jr. or Sr." out there with no degree AND debt up to her eyeballs (from 2 and 3 years of college) with limited resources to repay her debts. No, as much as I want to see her or any other player play ball, I want that educaton to be in the forefront.

Here is to hoping for good grades! I can't wait for the season to start!

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on October 11, 2006, 04:49:22 pm
Anyone been around during open gym? How are they looking?

I hear Mel is working out with the team even though she is not listed on the roster yet. Makes me think she will not be available until after New Year and grades comes out. Coach is high on grades, which is great. I hear the Mikels kid might push Saxe for minutes in the post.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on October 11, 2006, 08:02:21 pm
This is what was alluded to about Mel to me also.

Saw them running Tuesday night but that was all I saw...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on October 15, 2006, 07:07:47 am
In the MAC thread section , The Women's DIII News pre-season Top-25 poll has Maryville listed as the #23 team in the nation.

Practice officially starts today!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on November 07, 2006, 09:48:53 pm
This board is so dead. I hope it wakes up when the women start playing!! ;D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 09, 2006, 10:44:49 am
I keep looking to see if anyone knows anything and shares it here!  Since I do not, I do not.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on November 10, 2006, 03:02:13 pm
LOL, ScottieDoug, me neither. I can't wait to find out though.

A few more weeks...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 16, 2006, 01:33:01 pm
Scots' website shows Mel Uner on the team, along with only 11 others, not including the incoming post player from Sevier Co.  Only two posts on the squad....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 17, 2006, 10:32:08 am
Losing the freshman Mikels kid, the post player from Seymour, (she transfered) will hurt. Also, freshman Alex may be out for the year with a ACL injury.  Munday still hurting but playing. They should win both games in Virginia.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 17, 2006, 10:48:00 am
Losing Alex Walker means there are few guards who can help Beth Reed handle the ball (I am assuming that was one of her strenghts but have not seen her play).  Any idea why Mikels left?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 17, 2006, 02:11:34 pm
I believe the Mikels kid wanted to pursue her studies in nursing, so she was going to transfer to another school to do. Not sure if she has left campus yet or not.

Alex would have given Beth a few minutes of rest. She is a freshman still learning, but was working hard and doing a good job according to the Coach. Her biggest strength was on the defensive side using her quickness pressuring the ball.   

8pm....Alex called. MC won first game. I don't have a score.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 18, 2006, 07:22:34 pm
Congrats Ladies!!! Nice start......keep it going....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on November 19, 2006, 10:15:06 am
Just call me baby nostradamus!! I predicted that Beth would have a big year and she has her best game of the year against a pretty good Virginia Wesleyan teaM!!
29 points in the championship game is money!!!

 Good start for the Lady Scots and Coach Pardue...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 19, 2006, 02:41:03 pm
I'm with y'all about the good start part for the Scots and Beth, but she's playing 39 and 40 minutes.  So is Katie.  That cannot be a good thing.  It's a long season.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 20, 2006, 01:24:01 pm
Beth can't play those many minutes a game every night and have anything left when tourney time comes around. Surprised that neither Haley, Rachel or Robin played at all in Virginia. A couple of the players who played alot of minutes, playing with injuries.

Alex has a doctor appointment in Chattanooga Dec. 5. for a second opinion. Just kind of the normal thing to do if possibly facing surgery. She will make a decision after that visit.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on November 20, 2006, 09:23:09 pm
I can't wait to see the ladies play tomorrow. I hope Alex's injury isn't as bad as it  sounds.

Happy to hear they won in VA!

Beth Reed has had all that bottled up inside her since her freshman year. Good to hear she's finally letting it out and playing to her potential. But you all are right--she can't play that long and that hard every game w/o risking injury and burnout.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on November 21, 2006, 10:24:20 pm
Wow! I thought the Lady Scots played great tonight. They seemed "on" in every way. Defense, offense, ball handling, good passes, plays...they looked relaxed and confident. I saw a confidence in Flem that I haven't ever seen before. I think Coach Pardue is defenitely doing something right. I realize Centre wasn't the toughest opponent but they played a much better 2nd half than 1st half.

Mel is a thinker. Always thinking out there and it shows. Beth goes 90mph at all times . She plays a much better fast game than to try and slow her game down. Nat, though injured, was awesome. Kim surprised me with 13 points. I haven't seen that Kim since her freshman year. If she'd just bend those knees and get something behind her shots, she'd hit her 3's. Saxe has to find her rhythm and she's be unstoppable.

Honestly, I just thought the whole team did a good job. Can't wait til Sunday to see some more where that came from!  :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkball1 on November 22, 2006, 07:55:29 am
MC is solid but the league is bad. They will win hands down. What will hurt them is playing against a team with speed because MC doesn't have it they also have to hope nobody gets hurt because of their lack of depth. As mentioned in an earlier post it's a long season and to be averaging 35 plus minutes a game now will hurt later. They are very good I just hope they stay healthy. :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 22, 2006, 10:04:13 am
I was not able to be there but the box score indicates that more people played than in Va.  Any speed there? (draper, etc.).
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 22, 2006, 11:20:49 am
He didn't sub until about 5 minutes in game left I think. Basically going with a 8 player rotation, as he did in Va. I thought he could have given his starters more rest in the first half up by 30 at one point. Game was never in doubt. Got alot of kids playing injured. Lots of ice packs seen after the game. Robin, Haley, Rachel not in playing rotation yet when it matters.

Only 3rd game of season. Overall lack of team foot speed is what stood out to me when they were pressing and on defense. Can't teach quickness. Getting beat alot off the dribble. Got to get better defensively.

Next game will be a true test. Oglethorpe returns 4 seniors I think.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on November 22, 2006, 12:35:07 pm
yeah, it was 5 mns when he subbed. I was waiting and waiting for it to see what else we had on that bench. I was thinking the same thing...give those players a rest and let the others have some court time.

I realize your talking about their speed, and I think they play a much faster game than 3 years ago. Their game has changed so much since Smith and Carter played, to me, it looks like a different game altogether.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 23, 2006, 12:04:33 pm
Maybe there is a guard deficiency at Maryville.  Men and women too.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mattgrubb on November 24, 2006, 01:57:40 pm
congrats to B Reed on her team of the week accolade
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on November 26, 2006, 08:46:24 pm
Got to see my ladies for the first time since our lost in the second round of the NCAA Tournament and was really disappointed.. Yes they are 4-0 but they should be 4-0.. Teams they have played are not as talented.
Main things I was disappointed in was our lack of intensity on defense( Terrible defensively against Ogelthorpe, terrible foot speed, no help on the weak side and gicing up 85 points!!!!!), No structure within a half court setting on offense.. It was run and gun for the 30 minutes I was at the game.. Maybe that is there style this year but it won't get them anywhere come tournament time...

 Like my buddy "GHH" stated earlier in the year Defense win championships and if they don't correct it they will be exploited by good teams...
 Beth and Mel looked great... Summer was also impressive..Natalie Munday is not the Munday we had last year.. Looks out of shape and out of sync... Just didn't like their performance but hey its only one game...
Go Scots!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 26, 2006, 11:04:42 pm
My take on the game tonight....

          First, we need to get out of that press. We are not creating any turnovers or making the opposition use that much of the shot clock bringing it up. Playing a rotation of 8, we just wearing our players out. Conditioning is questionable, which it is very early in the year.
          Defense is awful.....no foot speed or technique. Leaving our feet on pump fakes. Everybody standing straight up, getting beat off the dribble, giving up the baseline, giving up coast to coast layups......No rotation or help. Not boxing out. Last 2 games, opposition got way too many open looks and layups. No in the passing lane anticipation, except from Beth and Mel.
          Offense is basically run and gun. I saw 1 set with 1 option. Saxe and Munday should be making a killing on the blocks. Would love to see a post, repost game, play inside out not outside in. Maybe a screen and roll 2 man game with Beth or Mel with Saxe or Munday. Something set, whatever it might be to show some structure and organization.
          No in-bound plays except for the lob to Saxe in the lane set and the corner screen play that everyone in the world runs. Against the press, no motion or screens to get anyone open or to advance ball up court. Players having to work too hard every possession. Too much standing around.
          Last 3 mins of game, nobody stepped up and took control with the attitude of I got to get open anyway I can and I want the ball in my hands. Lack of ball handlers was exposed tonight. Munday did a good job helping.
          Players were looking for some positve energy and direction, some confidence, some fire from the Coach. I didn't see that in any of the players' faces or his after any of the timeouts. He has got to get that "We ARE Going To Win This Game" message across, without any doubt. Players have got to believe in their system to succeed in situations like tonight.
           Coach got a nervous baptism in the HEAD COACHING position tonight. Up 21 with 12 minutes to go and had to hang on and survive 2 or 3 last second 3 attempts. Learning experience for all!!

We won though....4-0.....would rather win ugly than lose ugly..... ;)
Next true test probably will be Carson Newman. Keep improving!!!! 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on November 27, 2006, 08:22:30 am
Carson Newman won't be a test.. You don't have the structure and FIRE to beat Carson Newman.. Carson Newman's coach was at the game yesterday and will expose all of the weakness you and I just stated..
Best of luck to the Scots.. They should be 8-1 by Christmas.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 01, 2006, 09:41:35 am
Saturday would be a good game to work on:

1) Implement some structure and organization, some new plays instead of this 
    run and gun mentality. Work on some half court sets, out of bounds plays.
2) Work on their "HALF" court defense. Get out of that full court press. Maybe
    use full after a timeout or something as a surprise element, but this full court 
    all game press needs to go.
3) Maybe most important, give Beth, Katie, Summer, and Munday some rest.
    Summer and Beth are playing way too many minutes. Katie and Munday could
    use the rest to help those nagging injuries.
4) An opportunity to play Rachel, Robin and Haley while resting those mention
    above. Foul trouble is bound to happen somewhere and he is going to have to
    play these 3. Give them some court time.

Alex goes to the doctor Tuesday. Praying for some good news.



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: colincondi on December 01, 2006, 02:05:41 pm
Gotta love the criticizing and second-guessing of the coach who has his team off to a 4-0 start... including winning a tournament and beating a team that the girls were unable to defeat in the regular season last year... 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 01, 2006, 04:41:23 pm
Colincondi:  I was thinking the same thing.  I have not seen them play, however.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 02, 2006, 12:30:52 am
They should be 4-0 as GSAC Killer stated earlier. I believe he knows about basketball and Maryville girls program.

Not really criticizing him, but just stating what I have seen and what I feel they need to work on.

Also, they lost to Oglethorpe by 11 last year in the 4th game of season, but beat them by 32 in the tournament. Both squads basically have the same players this year. They had them down by 20 in the first half and 21 with 12 minutes left. They were suppose to beat them.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: colincondi on December 02, 2006, 10:09:06 am
They were supposed to beat them last year in the fourth game of the season, but they didn't.  They underachieved that game.  This year they played them in the fourth game of the season and won.  And though the final last year was only an 11 point loss, it wasn't that close.  I'm quite sure Coach Pardue doesn't have in everything that he's going to have in... I doubt any coach in the country does.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 02, 2006, 12:31:26 pm
GSAC Killer knows basketball and this team, so I give a lot of weight to his opinions.  He also occasionally criticizes Randy Lambert's coaching ideas and tactics.  I do not think any coach is immune from criticism and suggestions, including Randy, but it is hard to make a case that Lambert is not a very successful coach and mentor.  He has a long record.

Coach Pardue does not have such a record, so we will watch him make his legacy and feel free to offer "observations" as it happens!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 03, 2006, 11:11:45 pm
Well I saw the Scots beat Agnes Scott like a drum today and must say they looked pretty good to me.  Good defense, good ball movement, not good foul shooting.  Mel seemed quicker than last year and she handled the ball well when Beth was not  in.  Anybody who saw them earlier this year have any comparisons?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 04, 2006, 03:00:41 am
Wasn't able to attend last 2 games vs Wesleyan and Agnes Scott. Alex said both teams were not very good at all. Glad to see some players got some rest (Beth didn't even play vs Wesleyan) and others off the bench got to play some good minutes. Alex said they did work on some new stuff. I believe we are a good team but not sure how good. Still very early in season. Game vs DII CN Wednesday will be a good measuring tool. 

Congrats on the 6-0 start Coach and players. Keep working hard and improving!!!!!



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on December 04, 2006, 10:47:13 am
I don't like the word criticism.. It rubs off as a negative word.. I am not trying to be negative towards the ladies or Coach Pardue. I will always state the obvious.. It is true indeed they beat us last year in game #4 but we beat them by almost 40 at home when it counted the most.. My observation of the team is real simple..
1- No structure within a Half Court Setting ( but hey maybe thats his style)
2- Defense and intensity compared to previous years is not there.
3- Remember the success they are achieving are with Dee's players.. A full evaluation of Coach Pardue can not be done until next year..
4- A coach can't be measured until he has his recruiting class..

Lastly I comment on these message boards because obviously I have enough time at my job to do so.. In no way, shape, or form am I pointing the finger at Coach Pardue and saying if we were there we would be different. He is doing a great job so far.. 6-0 start is pretty dang good... I wish him the best but I do see a lot of weaknesses with what I saw against Ogelthorpe..

 I only STATE THE OBVIOUS Colincondi.. Marville Boys are also not that good but Coach Lambert has a track record of turning it around so I give him more slack... ;)
Keep it up ladies!!!6-0 and more to go............... ;D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 04, 2006, 11:27:20 am
So Killer, what you are saying adds up to it being hard if not impossible to evaluate Coach Pardue until he not only recruits people but also has a couple of years with those recruits.  Meanwhile, it is fun to watch him work with a group of experienced and strong-willed players who came to MC to play for, and were used to, a very different kind of coach, at least in terms of temperment.

It is still pretty early.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 04, 2006, 08:07:40 pm
Saturday's game was exactly how you read in the DTimes--we seemed to have a hard time playing against a team that was so bad. Everyone who could play did play. I think the score was something like 116 for us so we made a lot of shots and stole the ball a lot.

Beth didn't play because she wasn't there due to a death in her family. Lauren Fleming and Mel took over point.

Sunday's game was much better. Agnes Scot could not buy a basket but they shot a lot. They were much better than Weslyan and much better than they used to be. Our ladies played much better on Sunday than Saturday but I know it is hard to play a team that just doesn't know the game or have the skills.
It is funny that our  defense and intensity was mentioned because I had 2 people comment to me on Sunday how they all seemed to playing so much more intense than last year and looked so much quicker go up and down the court. Beth is like lightning and Mel is much faster than last year, no doubt. Munday wasn't feeling well and it showed. She was zapped.

I agree that these are Dee's players so it will take time to see Coach Pardue recruit. Dee was a heck of a recruiter and brought MC some very talented players. I do find it interesting the talk about putting in Rachel and Haley (I believe Robin is hurt and can't play). I am very glad they got to play this weekend (both days). However, last year game after game after game several girls weren't playing-- Kim, Fleming and Weiss come to mind very quickly. Yet this year, Kim is starting and Fleming is getting a lot of playing time. And both of them are doing well. Fleming is regaining her confidence. If she will still to it, I think she'll get better and better. Kim has been playing very good. She played a lot in her freshman year but hardly played at all last year. She has surprised me and while she has a style that is different from the strength and mentality of someone like Mel, she seems to be getting the job done.

The coaching style is as different as night and day. I don't see them as one is better than the other, just different.  I do like the explanations(coaching) that Pardue does when he pulls someone out of the game. I think you have to know what you can do better to play better.

Looking forward to CN on Wednesday. I know it will be tough and even tougher after playing those two teams over the weekend.

Go MC Lady Scots!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 05, 2006, 11:54:17 pm
Anything to share from the docs about Alex's health?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 06, 2006, 10:10:50 am
Anything to share from the docs about Alex's health?


Second opinion results were she does have a completely torn ACL and a slight menicus tear. Surgery is scheduled for next Wednesday. She's in pretty good spirits. She had never missed a game from elementary school through high school because of injury or sickness so she is very disappointed about this happening her freshman year in college.

Nice article on the school's athletic website.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 07, 2006, 12:04:43 pm
Sorry about the medical news.  I get the sense that Alex will do the required rehab and be ready and wiser next year.  Make some grades, too.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 07, 2006, 02:12:58 pm
I am sorry to hear about Alex's injury and the need for surgery. I hope she does really well throughout and with rehab. We look forward to having her back on the court next year. I know she will be an asset to this team.

Last night's game at CN--ugh! We seemed to be able to keep up with them til the half and then we ran out of steam. They were too deep. And, as with the men's game, the fouls that were called made you  ::) and the ones that weren't called made you  ::) . But even with better, I think we still would have struggled. We had a hard time making shots and shooting free throws. Mel and Beth played so quick and so hard. Katie took a beating under the goal and was passing the ball back outside instead of shooting? I have no idea what was going on there. I know she was missing a lot under there last night but IMO, so what, keep shooting.

I thought of lack of experience showed last night. There were ladies who just didn't look like they could keep up. Rebounding is killing us. I thought the first half they did a much better job rebounding but the second half ?? .

An observance I had was "if you don't want to be out there playing, why are you playing?" Very frustrating to watch players who are quite capable and look as if they are giving up, don't care, etc. From strictly a fan's POV, get out there and act like you want to play. You're capable and strong and we want to see you do well. "Just Do it!"  :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 07, 2006, 03:09:46 pm
Sorry about the medical news.  I get the sense that Alex will do the required rehab and be ready and wiser next year.  Make some grades, too.

What do you mean by.."Make some grades, too"..? To my knowledge, her grades are fine, but believe me when I say this, if I find out any different, she wont be playing anything. I'm in control of that. The school or Coach don't have to police her. Academics are first, sports second. Period.

Thanks for the well wishes from all. Her sister went through this her JR year in high school so Alex has a slight clue whats in store.

As for the game last night, I felt we played very well the first half. We should have actually been leading at the half. Last couple of minutes, we had some turnovers and quick shots. Got into a hole with a few turnovers right at the beginning of the second half and they made a run on us. I thought Saxe got beat up, got no calls, which got her gun shy from shooting after she missed some shots she normally would make. Saxe has got to get some help rebounding. This is where losing the Mikels kid hurt. Beth, Mel, and Summer played solid. Fatigue is an issue already. I'm not sure we got kids on the floor who don't want to be out there. Maybe they are trying to play hurt which is affecting there play. I do know we got kids on the bench who want to be out there.

IMO I just wish (1) he would stop trying to full court press. When we got down by 14, he went to it and it killed us. Just down 14 with 12 minutes to go is forever. We just dont have the speed and its wearing us out. (2) recognize when the game is over even if its still time on the clock. Down 20+ with 4 minutes or less to go, pull the plug. Take Beth, Mel, Summer and Saxe out. CN had no starters on the floor at the end and he still had Beth, Mel, and Summer on the floor, pressing full court. Beth and Summer played almost 40 mins, they came out once! Sit them down! Long season Coach.

Overall though, not bad. Score is not an indication. MC is going to be find!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 08, 2006, 12:06:59 am
All I meant about grades is that the freshman year can be a little challenging academically and not playing might make it a little easier to adjust to college expectations.

Dean Walsh is a fine coach and it is no surprise he was able to get them focused at halftime. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 08, 2006, 06:29:13 am
All I meant about grades is that the freshman year can be a little challenging academically and not playing might make it a little easier to adjust to college expectations.
 

 ;D Had me kind of nervous there when grade talk surfaces  ;D
 Never ever had a problem with her and I know college is challenging, been there done that...you right too.....definitely might help
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 13, 2006, 05:53:04 am
The Ladies are up 2 places in the D3Sports.com poll.....up to #21 from #23......

Keep learning, working hard and improving.... ;)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on December 14, 2006, 12:39:18 pm
The Scots will have a good test this weekend against a well coached Sewanee team!
Good luck gals.......
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 14, 2006, 07:19:21 pm
Alex's surgery Wednesday went great. No other damage. She's at home during great. Rehab starts Friday.....shes thrilled about that...yea right.... ;)

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 14, 2006, 11:48:30 pm
Who did the surgery?  Is she going to do rehab at MC?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 15, 2006, 01:20:52 pm
Great to hear Alex's surgery went well. Please tell her that MC fans are wishing her well and hoping she heals quickly and thoroughly. Also that rehab goes well!!

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 15, 2006, 04:03:22 pm
Alex's surgery was done by Dr. Todd Bell from Chattanooga. He does the UTC Mocs, Chattanooga Lookouts, Lee University athletes as well as others. She will do her rehab in Cleveland until school starts back. She will probably finish at MC, not sure yet. Been through this with my oldest daughter so I know the rehab person in Cleveland well.

I will relay the message and the well wishes. She will definitely appreciate it I know. She actually asked if I would bring her to the game Saturday.....gotta love that spirit.

Take care of business ladies!!!!

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: sewanee tiger on December 16, 2006, 01:16:16 am
The Scots will have a good test this weekend against a well coached Sewanee team!
Good luck gals.......

Killer,
Thanks for the compliment of our coaching staff. Hopefully Saturday's game will indeed be a good test for the Lady Scots, as we are definitely a big underdog. We are inexperienced (one senior) and undersized. Not a good combination against a Maryville team that is playing very well. On the plus side, we have played with a lot of heart this year. We have come from behind in all three of our wins this season, including one against Oglethorpe two weeks ago.

I'm also glad to hear that Alex had a good result from her surgery. In a very similar occurrence, we lost a freshman guard last season due to a foot injury that required season ending surgery. She didn't play a single minute all year. On Saturday, she will be our backup point guard. Hopefully Alex will have the same type of recovery.

Looking forward to coming over on Saturday (I live in Knoxville). Good luck to both teams. 


Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 17, 2006, 12:44:56 am
Scots looked pretty good.  Made it real hard for Sewanee to score until late and had a bunch of people shooting well.  Size was a problem for the Tigers, as Sewanee Tiger predicted.  I cannot tell how good the Scots are because it seems like Carson Newman is the only opponent this year who is having a strong year. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 17, 2006, 08:54:10 am
Scottie, it looks like the Lady Scots will get their toughest tests from Transy and Emory.

After that, it is just GSAC teams.

That sets up an interesting situation for the seedings if Maryville gets the AQ.

The ASC-West, especially McMurry, Hardin-Simmons and Howard Payne, is brutally tough this year.  All three are ranked in the top 15.  McMurry also plays UW-Sout, currently #10 on the 28th.

Maryville could be undefeated in South Region play.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 17, 2006, 11:16:22 pm
And we still will not know how good they are....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 17, 2006, 11:44:29 pm
Scottie, the fact that Maryville is more than 500 miles from everywhere in the ASC except MissColl (and MissColl has never represented the ASC-Women), means that Maryville will probably be moved up the East Coast to play ODAC, USASAC schools.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 18, 2006, 10:41:36 am
Ralph:  What I meant was that we will not know how good the Scots are until they play somebody other than who is on the regular schedule.   I do not know what kind of test Transy and Emory will be...Transy tonight and Emory Jan. 2.  If the Scots do well with those, the mystery continues.  If not, we know something!

In the NCAA tournament, the Scots, as you know, usually start out with a USASouth or ODAC team or Mary Washington and then run into some team like DePauw playing at another level.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 18, 2006, 11:44:12 am
Ralph:  I looked at Maryville's schedule and was reminded that they play Milligan, King, and Tennessee Wesleyan, all scholarship programs, in Jan. and Feb.

So there are on the regular schedule other non-GSAC indicators of how good the Scots are.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 18, 2006, 10:55:10 pm
I guess the Transy game tells us a little about how good the Scots are...not good enough to venture safely out of the southeast D3 world, at least not tonight!

Only bright spot was that Natalie got untracked, but by herself.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: colincondi on December 22, 2006, 06:29:55 pm
At the break, it looks like Maryville is once again the head of the class and should go unchallenged in the... let's face it... EXTREMELY weak GSAC.  If they stay healthy, another trip to the NCAA's should happen...

Head of the class:  Maryville -probably not quite as good as last year, but still a solid team... though don't seem to be top 25 worthy... two good wins to start the season and a home win against a decent OU team... depth could be a problem... don't see them making noise in the big dance

Fighting for a DISTANT second:  Piedmont, Agnes Scott, LaGrange-  Piedmont seemed like it would be a sure second, but they have been underwhelming thus far.  I'll still pick them over a surprisingly improved LaGrange and an also underwhelming Agnes Scott... thought they would really be better this year.

Also-rans:  Huntingdon, Spelman, Wesleyan... don't even need to talk about these programs... at least they take the conference to seven teams...


Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 27, 2006, 11:51:01 am
Those of you interested in the philosophy and finances of D3 athletics will be interested in a series of articles in the Maryville (TN) DailyTimes.  The focus is Maryville (and Beth Reed) and the GSAC they refer quite a bit to other schools in other leagues, including ODAC, SCAC, USASouth, WIAC, and others. Here are links to the first two:

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061226/SPORTS/612260319&SearchID=73267240633587

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061227/SPORTS/612270306http://

Each links to a second, related, article.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on January 05, 2007, 08:51:49 am
Just wanted to post and say that Coach Pardue and the Lady Scots have done a great job for the first 10 games of the season. With conference play coming up the Lady Scots will pile up the wins!!

 Wishing continued success to the lady scots for this new year and best of luck at Lagrange and Piedmont..
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on January 08, 2007, 08:41:21 am
BAD BAD LOSS for the Scots against Piedmont!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 08, 2007, 09:10:00 am
What happened against Piedmont? Bad outside shooting night for sure looking at box score.

Looks like Coach also made a couple of changes in the starting lineup the last 2 games.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on January 08, 2007, 09:19:41 am
Since I always say what is on my mind, I will say this: The Scot should never lose a Conference game especially with the talent this years team has. I know Saxe had 23 points but she took 20 shots!!!!!!!!!! Holy COW!!!! Thats a lot of shots for anyone but especially Saxe..
Hey I was not at the game but it seems to me foul trouble had something to do with the los and the play of Beth Reed... MC is only good when beth is at her best??

 WHat has happened to Flemmings playing time?? Who is Alicia Brown? The loss hurts a lot when it comes to selection Sunday for the NCAA Tournament..
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 08, 2007, 09:30:18 am
Remember, the GSAC has a Pool A bid, and so the winner of the conference tourney gets the bid.

If the Lady Scots win the tourney, then the loss will possibly impact one of the 15 first weekend playoff venues.  Otherwise the loss impacts Pool C chances.

(Piedmont is putting together a strong season.  It appears that the Piedmont loss (worth 7 points on the QOWI system) may hurt them less in terms of the QOIW than the Transylvania loss, which could turn out to be a 5 point loss, if Transy finished with an in-region record between .500-.665.)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 08, 2007, 09:56:45 am
I figured it was just a matter of time on Flemming playing time since she was just starting in front of Mel to begin the season. I don't get the Munday for Saxe switch though. From what I have seen, Saxe is the best post player we got and rebounder. We got killed on the boards against Piedmont. Alicia Brown transfered in from UTK where she was on the softball team. She played high school ball at Clinton I think is what Alex said. I'm still surprised the 2 kids from Farragut, Draper and Haley, are getting no minutes. Nothing against the Brown kid, but she transfers in and plays more than the kids who have been there from the start. Interesting developement.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 12, 2007, 09:01:37 am
Very nice win for the ladies....beating King College, a NAIA school.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 16, 2007, 11:52:22 pm
I have not seen the Scots  play since the holidays and have not seen Alicia Brown, but she is listed as a (small) guard.  The Farragut frosh are forwards.  With Alex out, I would imagine coach wants someone (Brown?) to spell Beth Reed. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 17, 2007, 10:49:46 am
I guess I'm a little too old school for todays game. I like loyalty to the players who went through it all, the spring and summer open gyms, weights, practices after school started, etc. Nothing against the Brown kid, believe me, my personal perference is to give the kids who have been there at least an opportunity. I have seen them play. Mel handles the ball just as well or better than the Brown kid. Either kid, Draper or Haley, could play the wing and the team would be just as effective with Mel as point as it is with the Brown kid at point, while spelling Beth.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 17, 2007, 11:43:53 pm
I'm of that thinking also but things have definitely changed. It was good to see all the Lady Scots (except Mel) out there tonight even though it wasn't much of a game.
I gotta say, the surprise for me to watch this year has got to be Kim Seal. I honestly thought I would never see her out there playing ball like she is. She is having a great year and is quite the shooter. Even in her freshman year she did not play like this. I don't think she is the most natural athlete, but she is playing good solid, dependable ball and I doubt she would have see the court without Coach Pardue.
I thought Natalie looked more "up" tonight. Saturday's game I thought she wanted to be anywhere but in Cooper. Talk about hard to watch...someone so talented not trying--looking like she doesn't want to play or play here or play for him or something. He doesn't seem like he's a jerk of a coach so why not give some effort and make the best of the situation because you love the game? *sorry for the vent* I really like Nat and want her to "like" playing here.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 18, 2007, 05:28:01 pm
Is Mel ok?  There is an interesting article about Kim Seal linked to the Scots web page.
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=1750
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on January 18, 2007, 08:42:52 pm
Stefan wrote a great story, its worth the read.

My impression is Pardue is getting Brown in playing shape as quickly as possible because she can create some more personell options among the ballhandlers.
Uner sat out Wed. against Fisk with muscle pull, be back saturday, but it showed why Brown's getting the floor time she is. There just isn't a lot of depth out there at guard. Most of the nonreturnees were guards plus Dee took one with him and Walker is out this season. IMPO Beth and Summer played way too many minutes early on (over 38 each the first five or six games) but there wasn't much choice then. Piedmont showed everyone something in forcing the action at beth when possible, if she's fouled out MC is easier to beat in a close game. MC held on against King when she fouled out again but Brown was a week more comofrtable and showed it then.
Uner can handle the point fine when needed but when she does it seems to take away some of the freedom at the 2 that she seems to thrive on in coming up with steals and creating on offense.


As for Nat, she hasn't seemed herself on the court and I think attempts were made to get her game jump started by shifting the starting lineup against Piedmont, King and Fisk. But it was feb before she really caught fire last year so who knows, maybe it'll happen again.


 Rereading that story on the link, help me out,  when did Transy become NAIA? I thought the guys were midwest region and girls central region in D3. Are they transitioning out of the NCAA?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 18, 2007, 08:58:42 pm
...
 Rereading that story on the link, help me out,  when did Transy become NAIA? I thought the guys were midwest region and girls central region in D3. Are they transitioning out of the NCAA?
Bard, I believe that you are correct, and the story is wrong.

Transy came to the Heartland CAC from the NAIA, and their first full year in the NCAA was 2004-05.

The NAIA website does not show Transy (http://naia.cstv.com/member-services/about/members.htm) either.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 18, 2007, 11:37:32 pm
Transy is D3.  Bad thing, too, as they clocked both the women and the men from Murvul.

I agree that getting depth at point will be really important as the season develops and the promotion of Brown makes sense to me.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 19, 2007, 01:57:58 pm
Well, I'll hold out for a "late start" for Nat. I think she's worth the wait! BUT, the season starts earlier than Feb. so next year, she'd better "show up and show out" earlier!!  ;)
I wondered if not only the change in coaches was making a difference, but maybe not being in shape from last year's injury was also to blame. Anyway, I'm gonna patiently wait on her to come around because I think she does have what it takes to be what Pardue thinks she can be.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 25, 2007, 02:09:48 pm
I'm new to this D3 tournament format. If Maryville don't win the conference tournament (which they should), can they still qualify for an at large bid to go to the NCAA D3 tournament?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 25, 2007, 09:52:56 pm
Nice article in the Knox News Sentinel about Coach Pardue and the Lady Scots!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 25, 2007, 11:42:34 pm
If it works like the men's side, there are a few Pool C bids to the tournament from leagues that have an automatic bid for the champ.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 31, 2007, 09:02:49 pm
If Maryville and Piedmont both end up with one Conference loss, how do they determine the top seed for the Conference Tournament, coin flip....?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 01, 2007, 02:40:20 pm
I cannot think of a better way but that does not mean that is how they'll do it!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 02, 2007, 08:23:09 am
If Maryville and Piedmont both end up with one Conference loss, how do they determine the top seed for the Conference Tournament, coin flip....?
The ASC uses a point differential up to 10 points.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 02, 2007, 09:30:25 am
If Maryville and Piedmont both end up with one Conference loss, how do they determine the top seed for the Conference Tournament, coin flip....?
The ASC uses a point differential up to 10 points.

Thanks for the info Mr. Turner.

I didn't realize Piedmont had a conference loss (against Huntingdon) until Alex set me straight while we were discussing tournament time coming up. So the Feb. 11 game in Maryville will be for Conference title and Conference Tournament top seed. You got to love this time of year!!!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 03, 2007, 12:21:12 am
How is Alex's rehab going?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 03, 2007, 08:46:48 am
How is Alex's rehab going?

Thanks for asking.

Her rehab is going great. Rehab peeps say she's about 3 weeks ahead of schedule on their rehab schedule progression chart.....on things like her motion, range, strength, exercises, etc....for the amount of time gone by since surgery.  She's working very hard. She's attends every practice, watching and learning and travels with the team. Coach Pardue has done a great job making her feel she is still very much a part of the team, even though she is not playing. She's looking forward to next year! Already talking about her workout schedule after her doctor's release. Got alot of work to do! It will be almost 8 months since she last played.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 03, 2007, 02:39:43 pm
Good to hear the rehab is going well.  Beth Reed's departure will be a great opportunity.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 06, 2007, 12:32:27 am
Just got in from Maryville - Milligan.  Scots were down 10 at the half (35 - 25) and looking out of it.  Second half was a whole different story and M'ville won 72-59 (I think).  One turnover in the second half, way better defense, and the shots fell.  I do not know how good Milligan is but they are above .500 and are a scholarship program (NAIA) with several nice players.  Natalie Munday did not play (ankle).  I am beginning to think the Scots are becoming quite potent.  Piedmont and Tennessee Wesleyan (NCAA Div. 2) will illuminate!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 06, 2007, 06:45:38 pm
Probably the best half they have played all year with the exception of the Virginia Wesleyan game. Nice win for the ladies.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 10, 2007, 08:26:59 pm
So good to hear Alex is healing and her rehab is going so well!!! I can't wait to see her play next year.

Big game tomorrow. Piedmont is the sweetest win to me personally and I hope we get tomorrow.
Have my ressies for GSAC tourney.

I think these girls are ready!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 12, 2007, 10:25:02 am
Nice win for the ladies against Piedmont. Looks like another regular season conference championship with 2 games remaining. Congrats to 1st year Coach Pardue. Munday played like the Munday of old. I say they will probably see Piedmont again in the Conference Tournament Championship game.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 12, 2007, 12:21:10 pm
Here is the link to Marcus; nice article in the DailyTimes about the Piedmont game:
http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070212/SPORTS/702120314

Having Natalie playing well really adds a lot to this team.  Piedmont's big post player was hurt, so a rematch ought to be interesting!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 12, 2007, 06:39:29 pm
I agree, Natalie played much better ball and seemed more content on the court but I still didn't think she looked "happy" on the court. I  want her to be content and happy at MC. I hope she can work through it. I REALLY want her to stay and play and feel good about it. She is an awesome player.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 12, 2007, 11:33:41 pm
How are we to know if anyone is "happy?"  Maybe if her ankle and calf do not hurt and she is in playing shape, she'll be happier.  I would think a player who had the kind of game she had Sat. would have a few "happy" thoughts!  This team is good and getting better and can be a real force next year, too.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 14, 2007, 07:18:13 pm
While I do agree with you asnd that we can't really tell most of time, I think Natalie wears her feelings on her sleeve and is easy to read. I will not overstep my bounds and say anything else, but I will say that I do you are right and I do think if she can get well and get in shape, she'll be happier with herself, her effectiveness on the court and even with a new coach at the wheel. I am a huge Natalie fan, she might as well belong to me. I do want to see her happy and successful. She has great potential. I will do nothing but give her support.

I think they are playing better as a team and are stepping up with each week that passes. There is so much talent on this Lady Scots team.
I can't wait until the GSAC tourney. I'm hoping we sweep.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 14, 2007, 07:26:31 pm
Oh and super nice article on Beth Reed in this week's Blount Today.

http://www.blounttoday.com/blnt/home/article/0,2355,BLNT_18867_5351529,00.html (http://www.blounttoday.com/blnt/home/article/0,2355,BLNT_18867_5351529,00.html)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 15, 2007, 10:57:05 pm
Maryville handled Tennessee Wesleyan, a good NAIA team that beat King, rather easily tonight.  They are playing very well!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 16, 2007, 01:15:55 pm
The ladies played very well. I know most of the players on Tn Wes and figured it would be a much tougher game. It was really not as close as the final score, if not for the late run Tn Wes had.

I wish we could improve on 3 things going into post season: (1) keeping the intensity level up when we got the hammer down on teams. We have had a few teams way down this year and let them back in the game. (2) Improve on our overall defense. Too much penetration and coast to coast layups for the other teams. (3) Rebounding....Katie had 17 of our total 33 rebounds last night. She needs help. We gave up 13 offensive and we only had 7.

I don't know what issues there are with the Coach and Natalie, but somebody better figure it out quick. How do you go from being a major force, scoring 17 points against a good Piedmont team, to being a non-factor and not scoring at all against Tn Wes. I feel if we are going to go deep in the NCAA Tournament, we have got to have her playing well. Its obvious to me from what I have seen this year, if she is involved, getting some touches, getting minutes, the better she plays. She doesn't react good at all to being put in and then taken out within a couple of minutes. Just my opinion..... 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 16, 2007, 04:53:52 pm
I agree the Scots are more potent with Natalie contributing.  I have no earthly idea how the coach decides on playing time.  Natalie had 21 minutes against Peidmont and 15 against TN Wesleyan.  She was way more productive per minute in the 21 minutes than in the 15.  Statistically, she did not contribute anything last night and 15 minutes is long enough to score or rebound or steal or assist or something.  Pardue was quoted in the paper after Piedmont saying she had shown her real potential self, so there was no hint she had gotten crosswise with him.  Beats me.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 19, 2007, 10:21:44 am
What a terrible loss for the ladies. What in the world happened. Beat them by 35 at home and lose down there. Our defense, as I have stated in earlier posts, have been a concern of mine all year. Sometimes, you are going to have a off night and you got to be able to clamp down and get stops. Home court is not worth 24 more points.

They may have to win tournament now to get a NCAA Tournament bid.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 19, 2007, 11:51:01 am
If they cannot beat Agnes Scott and/or Piedmont in the GSAC tournament, they would not be likely to do much in the NCAA anyway....

Mel and Beth only Scots in double figures.  They must have sat on the posts and Summer.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 19, 2007, 11:25:25 pm
Box score says Summer did not play at all.  I am guessing the ankle she rolled before the TNWesleyan game was worse than it seemed that night.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on February 20, 2007, 05:44:11 pm
Also note that saxe fouled out and played just 22 minutes. That's one starter out, another limited by fouls and remember that one of the Scotties post did not play in the game at MC. On the right night ASC has a lot of inside presence. If Saxe was in foul trouble and Munday not inspired then Sealsimply doesn't have the size against that front line. Since she was only 1-for-6 I'm guessing she struggled against those two bigger ASC posts.

The team has some big goals left. Taking care of (Ga.) Wesleyan (congrats on breaking the streak Sunday refer Daily Dose if you missed the Fisk game results) and getting to LaGrange is No. 1 now. The way the brackets break down they could play the semifinal against Agnes Scott and it will be a tough match with with Piedmont, not that I'd count out LaGrange playing spoiler at home if they beat Huntingdon tonight. LaGrange has done some really nice things this year and looks to be an up and comer into that top group of MC, PC and ASC.

If MC is going to make any kind of postseason run, you almost have to have Natalie playing well. I don't think she has to dominate like she did last season to really help the chances. She has the skills to be the off guard and help bring the ball up against a press, she can relieve Summer by taking a few 3s from her spot at the top of the key (not the corner) and she can help Saxe inside. The question is No. 1 can she do it physically? and No. 2 will she do it if she can?

By that you notice how many times she drifts to the perimeter outside of the offense. Not drastically but to make a comparison to the men's team. She's tended to be on the outside of the paint Like Bradley Blair, when al her success last year was being the extra foot or two lower to the goal and making moves like Golden. That extra foot or two has her out of position for rebounds and because she makes an extra step to the basket, draws more travel calls plus when there's contact the refs are more likely to give her the charge because she's that much more powerful than most posts her height.

Wish I had the answer as to what it would take to get Nat going. Before Summer was hurt she was the missing piece for this tam to be back in the top 25. With Summer hurt she's the neccesary scoring piece to compensate for Summer in both scoring and in keeping defenses from totally collapsing on Saxe. I don't know if MC gets past the semis on neutral court without either Summer playing at 70% or better OR Munday making up the difference. The Scots have a lot of pieces but none of them really match up well with ASC without one of those two happening.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 20, 2007, 11:07:21 pm
I am confused or maybe just dont understand the Coach's thinking.

With Summer being out, and definitely needing to get Munday motivated and on track, he starts the Brown kid ahead of her. Kind of a slap in the face to Natalie I would say. Nothing against the Brown kid, but she is not a difference maker yet, as Natalie is. Natalie has been there from the start, and as they say, been there, done that. It's tournament time. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 21, 2007, 09:11:05 am
Respectfully, I disagree. I thought Alicia Brown ( the Brown kid?? What is up with that? Sorry, but it sounds disrespectful to me.) was a good choice. She is one heck of a player and hustles every second she is out there. She moves the ball inside and can shoot the 3s also.

You may have a point though. Maybe Nat thought she should have started last night so instead of going out there and giving it her all, she chose not to. Whatever the reason, she totally had that aura about her last night that she could not care about being on that court. She may have been the one player who didn't score at all. I hope something changes fast because she is better than this and I don't think a new coach can take all the blame. I think everyone is pulling for Natalie to get out of this funk or whatever it is. It is really hard to watch when you care about them as women and not just players.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 21, 2007, 10:06:24 am
I mean no disrespect to Alicia. I think she is a good player also.

But my thinking is, right now, in this situation, this time of the season, with hopefully the 2 most important games of the team's season coming up, if I had a choice of getting 1 player in the right frame of mind and ready to play, I would choose Natalie. Natalie can, if she wants to play, take over a game. I don't see Alicia doing that yet. Natalie can score inside or out, can also bring the ball up, and can rebound, where we definitely need help. Mental battle. If Natalie is in the game, (mentally) we are so much better.

I feel she should have started. I was not at the game and definitely don't agree with pounting, just because you don't start. But, on the flip side, come on now, if I'm a upperclassman, proven player, past starter, been there from the start, I can understand her feelings but definitely don't approve of how she handled it.

I am pulling for Natalie 100%. She made Alex and I feel so welcome, as everyone else did, when we first starting coming to open gym last spring. What impressed me is when I talked to her about the past season, she kept saying "my team" with passion, about everything, which made me believe she really cares, really wants to play and be a "BIG" part of the picture. I haven't seen that "BIG" part on a consistent basic, only in a few games. My feelings, its hard to be a "BIG" part if you not on the floor. It's not totally her fault or totally the coaches fault. Whatever the reason, I hope she and the Coach can get it together.......quick.....!!!



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 21, 2007, 10:42:17 am
Amen to that!!

You know, open gym last Spring was before Bell left. That is when this attitude started shifting. Dee was at the gym before the game last night. Last stats I saw from last Thursday nights game, Nat had no points or rebounds for her time in the game. I am not sure how her rebounding was last night but the points weren't there. I'm not sure  that last year's proof is getting it for her this season. I don't want to sound like I am dogging her. As I have said many time before, I WANT her to succeed. I would do whatever it took to see her happy and playing good ball. My wishing for her can only go so far.

When Summer arrived she also stepped in ahead of others. At first, it is always a  ??? because here this new person just walks onto the court and gets so much playing time. I guess that is just part of the game.   :-\
And next year there maybe freshman brought in who take over, you never know. I'm hoping to see Alex bring a lot to the team, for sure!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 21, 2007, 12:33:29 pm
I did not see last night's game so all I know is what y'all have said or written and the box score.  Nat had 23 minutes, 4 defensive rebounds, and 2 assists.  0 for 5 shooting.  Nobody else had more assists.  Not a great line but not awful and it is hard to get too excited playing a team with as little likelihood of winning as Wesleyan.  I hope she plays as she is capable from now on out because it will take that for the Scots to keep winning.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on February 21, 2007, 06:53:30 pm
I did not see last night's game so all I know is what y'all have said or written and the box score.  Nat had 23 minutes, 4 defensive rebounds, and 2 assists.  0 for 5 shooting.  Nobody else had more assists

Not exactly.
Reed had 7 assists, Uner had 6 handouts, Alicia had 5, etc. 2 assists was only more than Saxe, Stache and Williams.

I liked the way the team played last night. Seal and Franklin both had a shot that went in and found a way to come back out. Those go down and you have 7 players in double figures.

I have no answer in how to motivate. (I might coach if I did) But from a life perspective, some people have to be shown to enjoy what's going on and what they are a part of. Maybe that's the case. Dee had a similar problem until late in the season last year.
The great thing about D3 is that the athletes aren't playing for a scholarship, its also the worst thing. The only real motivator is loving to play and loving to win and sometimes people wear out on the game. Think Brooke Johnson before she left Carson-Newman. She almost quit basketball before going on to another school. And that was after an MVP season as a freshman.

On a different note, talking with Wesleyan coach last night, sounds like the program is going to be a bit different next season. She's been out looking for players which is new for the Pioneers. They've pretty much been a recruit from the students who come to the school type program until now. Not saying they'll be a contender next season but looks like that long ride through the cellar may have motivated a need for change.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 21, 2007, 10:53:50 pm
I did not see last night's game so all I know is what y'all have said or written and the box score.  Nat had 23 minutes, 4 defensive rebounds, and 2 assists.  0 for 5 shooting.  Nobody else had more assists

Not exactly.
Reed had 7 assists, Uner had 6 handouts, Alicia had 5, etc. 2 assists was only more than Saxe, Stache and Williams.



Thank you for those stats because I was sitting here wondering what game I saw last night if Natalie had more assists than Beth and Mel. I was thinking "2 was the high number of assists??!!"  :o
I hope GA Wesleyan does do some recruiting and get some bal players on thier team. Honestly, games like that are no fun for either side and I'm sure those Wesleyan girls were exhausted. Between the ride up here and game, I felt for them.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 21, 2007, 11:45:05 pm
Sorry for the screwup on Nat's assists.  Being in a hurry often does that for me.  I was looking at the turnovers column....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 22, 2007, 06:25:35 am
We are going to take care of business.....Friday and Saturday!

I will be there to cheer us on!!!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on February 22, 2007, 08:38:07 am
I don't know what has gone on recently with the Lady Scots but here is my take on things....
First and foremost you don't lose Conference Games to anyone but Piedmont and that sometimes is tough to swallow.. LOSING TO AGNES SCOT IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!! :o

Second in my opinion Natalie Munday is the best player on this team.. Certain type of players need to be coached a certain way.. Natalie is unstoppable.. She can go inside and out"Just ask Oglethorpe last year in the NCAA Tournament game".

I think Coach Pardue has done a wonderful job with "Dee's Players".. I have spoken to Coach Pardue a couple of times and  I think he is a great guy but I am still hesitant to say he is in Dee's league or the guy who is at Carson Newman... We will see how they do with the departure of Reed, Seal, Dalton and the possibility of Munday and Uner??

Good luck to Scots this weekend.. There is no doubt in my mind that if they play how I know they can the GSAC Championship should not be even close....

Beth, Kim, and Summer congrats on a great season and a great career.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 25, 2007, 12:10:49 am
Well whatever happened (I was there only by radio), it was not Natalie's fault!  I hope the Scots can get an at-large bid but wouldn't bet on it.  Congrats to Piedmont and I hope they beat some people!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 25, 2007, 04:19:33 pm
You are right. It wasn't Natalie's fault and it was the best I have seen her play in a long time and she was very, very sick. I'm hoping that even through her sickness, she was able to see a little of what awaits her around the corner if she'll get into shape, renew her desire and love for the game and go for it!

I'm not sure what happened. We weren't scoring as we should have, Summer didn't shoot much either day. Wondering if the ankle was bothering her? We had a lot of turnovers. Bad passes, loss of control of the ball etc. Seems like we had more than 18 t.o.
At the end, I thought we took the shot too soon and gave them ample time to tie us. We missed 2 easy shots, both we were wide open to make them and missed. What can you do? The ending foul? Ugh. I hated the ref calling that for the deciding factor. I dont think that was one to call--an offensive foul on the rebound. I felt really bad for Summer. Even so, we had opportunities to win that game before all that happened. We just couldn't do it.

Piedmont doesn't lose a player for next year. They'll be back and they'll be tough. I hope we're ready for them.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 25, 2007, 11:39:51 pm
I, too, hope Natalie and (Melissa) dedicate themselves to next year being different in the end.  Lots of potential for the group, especially if a shooter can be found to step in for Summer's role.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 26, 2007, 10:21:04 am
Tough way for the season to end. Had 20 turnovers....hard to win like that. We still had our chances. First loss to Agnes Scott is probably what did us in on no bid. After seeing them this weekend, don't see how we loss that.

Congrats to Beth, Summer and Kim. I haven't known them long but enjoyed watching them play. Good luck with your upcoming successful careers.

Any word on any new recruits coming in? I heard we might be getting a kid from Hiwassee College and a post player from Cleveland High.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on February 26, 2007, 12:06:05 pm
VERY VERY VERY DISappointed in the LADY SCOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That team is 30 pts better than any team in the GSAC... Did not p;ay to their potential... Very Very sad.... This years team is an NCAA Tournament team and possible Sweet 16 caliber team...

Its tough to see how the season ended because I know how good that team could have been.. It also ended the streak of 9 consecutive NCAA Apperances... WHERE IS DEE BELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o

I think Coach Pardue had a good season but 3 conference losses UNACCEPTABLE!, especially AGNES SCOTT!
On what is coming in: Colleen McConnel our backup Pg last year is transferring back to the College...
 Best of luck to the Piedmont Lions...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on February 26, 2007, 03:48:31 pm
Watching it live, Piedmont deserves credit for a good defensive plan. They left their posts to handle Saxe on the inside and concentrated on defending the 3-point line. It worked. The only 3s came from the posts, Saxe 2-2, Munday 1-1, Seal 1-3.
Mel's defense really had Adcock on the ropes the first 15 minutes but give that freshman credit she put herself back together to get 16 points and the MVP with her second half game.
I wondered if MC shouldn't have forced the issue if PC was willing to let Saxe (and in the second half Munday) beat them, then why not force it, both Piedmont posts were in foul trouble to the point of alternating the last 10 minutes.

I know the officiating crew is a mixed one that comes off coaches recommendations before the tourney, but I don't know how you let the rip away from Saxe that tied the score go uncalled and then call the tangle, yes Summer's arm was trapped, to decide a conf championship. I'm not sure Maryville wins in overtime. Because of the foul situation it would have been who could keep playing and scoring without getting their fifth. Piedmont's bench is a lot longer that MCs anyway but with Fleming out with flu MC would have had to put in freshmen in ot if Uner, Saxe or Munday (each with 4 at game end) had been whistled for one in an extra session.

Regardless, NCAA doesn't consider the how they loss in at-large bids.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 26, 2007, 09:18:41 pm
I hope Coach is able to bring in some size to help on the boards. He is looking at a post player from Cleveland High. She use to play AAU for me. Parents said they are considering coming. Not much of a scorer but a bruiser inside and good rebounder. Also a kid from Hiwassee College, supposely their second leading scorer this year, is rumored to be transfering in according to a source from Hiwassee College. I think he is also looking at some kid from Sequoyah.

Colleen will help in the point guard position where we are very young. Finding a scorer to replace Summer will be an issue. A lock down defender would be nice to have. Team has got to get better defensively. Got to be able to get stops late in a game. Rebounding on both ends got to improve.

Natalie, Mel and Katie all returning is the key for next year. Coach will also have a year under his belt as the head man. Maybe some new stradegy will come.

Probably will come down to us and Piedmont again next year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on February 27, 2007, 10:02:04 am
The only player that is sure to come back is Katie Saxe.. "GHH" trust me on that.. It was a disappointing season for Mel and Munday... I think Coach Pardue is a real nice guy and did a pretty good job, but since I say it how I see it.. They underachieved!!!!

NO WAY!!! They stopped one of the longest streaks in the Nation of going to the NCAA Tournament.. That team was a Sweet 16 caliber team.. Even with the departure of Colleen, Jones,Grant, Andy and the graduating seniors...

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 27, 2007, 06:35:53 pm
This is how I see it:

First, Dee Bell is at Reinhardt and everyone, including myself, might as well accept that fact and move on. Blame the Maryville powers for that loss. 

Second, I don't see Mel and Natalie as quitters. Just because things didn't go as they should have or as they expected is no reason to quit. Welcome to the real world! Everybody is disappointed. If you a real competitor, then you come back next year and make it right. If you a fair weather competitor who glows in the sun but quits when a storm comes, blames it on everybody else besides yourself.....bye bye.....

Third, Coach Pardue definitely has room for improvement on his end, being his first year at the head, he made his mistakes, but the bottom line is the players got to play and perform too. Pardue didn't have 20 turnovers in that championship game. You can have the best (or worst) game plans in the world, but if the players don't execute them, so what!

I still say if Katie, Mel and Natalie comes back healthy with the right attitude, we get a little help, we can do something good next year.  I would hope they would talk to the Coach and he needs to talk to them before anyone does anything they might regret.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 27, 2007, 10:28:39 pm
What a super post, GHH!!!

I totally agree with your thoughts here.

Where is Coach Bell????? He left...we have a new coach and darned good one. I realize they are night and day different and each have positives and negatives. Maryville is very lucky to have Coach Pardue and those girls are even more lucky. Loved Dee Bell, but I gotta say this Coach Pardue is quite impressive. GHH is right, if these girls are thinking of leaving or quitting, they need to sit down and talk to this man. I think he has wisdom to share with them about basketball, college and LIFE.

Bell left at a bad time for these ladies. I wondered if we were even going to have a team ready to play. They seemed to be dropping like flies early on and so for the season to come together as it did, I'm proud of them!!

I am worried about Natalie quitting. But I saw a spark in her during the last game that I am hoping will shake her up and rekindle her love and dedication for the game. She's a super young woman and a very good ballplayer.
And nobody plays ball like Mel IMHO. Mel is my favorite Lady Scot ever to watch. I would be heartbroken to ever see her quit. From what I hear, she is doing well with school. So if she stays healthy and dedicated, next year will be great.

I also heard there IS a shooter seriously looking at MC. That's also very good news for this team. Again, I await to see Alex. I'm betting she's not going to disappoint!

Nice to hear Colleen is coming back. I heard she misses MC. She never showed me much last year, but I'm willing to let her toss that comment out the backdoor.  ;)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 28, 2007, 12:11:27 am
Alex's rehab is going great and ahead of schedule. She started running today for the first time, straight line tread-mill. Said it felt okay, no pain or swelling. When she comes back, healthy, I feel she will add a defensive attitude we lack. I'm old school so she has always heard defense first from me, stop your opps and even if you dont score, you still tied. As always after surgery, a mental battle to trust that knee will come. For her to be effective, she's got to get her speed, strength and quickness back. She can score but defensively is where I think she will stand out with Mel.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on February 28, 2007, 07:43:16 pm
For those who wonder, while at Cooper Center today the men were practicing for the road the the final four that seems to go through jackson Mississippi but in the side gym working on jump shot was Munday.

Now the notebook for what could be next year's starting five need to do to avoid being home this week next year.

Saxe: Should Katie take Reed's summer job of opening and closing the gym at MC she can be in the running for All-America. Needs to work on rebounding, defensive foot work against post of equal or greater size and developing another twist to inside game as in from behind the basket or midrange jumper to compliment current skills.

Uner: Has to keep academics first. Tough but hasn't had a fully healthy season yet. Startageizing I'd count on 20-25 minutes a game unless something changes. Off makes good drives and a good shooter, needs to make both those great to maximize offense. Speed and defense is excellent.

Fleming: Be the intangible glue. Watch a lot of tape of Andy Chaney and Alex Bowers and decide every loose ball is yours and never surrender a turnover. The team has the scoring machines, needs the heart.

Munday: No. 1 get healthy and keep strengthening. Mentally find the happy place to really enjoy playing. Shown flashes of being dominant but defensively needs to learn how to battle equal sized opponent and again rebounding.

Point guard is up in the air and switching it off with Uner, Walker, Brown could be good but somebody had to say I want the job.

Killer probably knows better than I, but wasn't Stache a 3-point shooter converted into a post? She didn't seem confortable in the paint any chance she might become the long-range threat her little sis is at Heritage High?

Lastly, I would hope that schedule-wise and attitude wise Schram might have some advice for the program. The automatic bid changes how you schedule and why you schedule, especially when we see that there is no real at-large consideration if you don't win the conference tourney.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 01, 2007, 11:09:53 am
I would really be surprised if Nat or Mel don't come back. Both are competitors. Sure it hurts now, all the success they have already experienced, but once the initial shock goes away from that last lost and everbody's emotions kind of settled down and get in check, when you look, next year looks very promising. Being king of the mountain for so long, then get knocked off, for whatever reasons, is hard for everybody to digest. If you didn't get mad, then there really would be something wrong. But now you got that hunger to reclaim that mountain. Now you kind of feel what all those other teams have been feeling for the last 7 years, while you were away playing and they were sitting at home. 

I still feel there needs to be some dialogue between both players and the Coach. Kind of clear the air session, then move on.

Nice to know Nat was in the gym, but I would actually rather see her take some time off, rest, get completely healthy. One wrong twist and her nagging injuries from this year will nag her all spring and summer. Before you know it, it will be back in the gym getting ready for next season. Take some time .... Make this Senior season coming up, a season to remember....

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on March 01, 2007, 11:46:21 am
You guys are right about all your posts except one thing: COACH BELL DIDN"T WANT TO LEAVE!!!!!! $$$$$ it makes the world go round... It was probably hard for the Athletic department to see him go but you keep good people around... Coach Bell was one season away from being the All Time Leader in Wins and leading the ladies to a 10th Consecutive NCAA Apperance...By that I say this if Reinhardt offered Coach X amount of Dollars MC should have tried and least matched that... That is my opinion on that matter...
D III Sports has limitations on what it pays it coaches but you find the MONEY someway somehow... It starts up top and by that I mean the School Administration "Top Dogs"
Coach Pardue did a good job but good is not enough at MC.. You have to make it to the NCAA Tournament...
I hope the ladies comeback.... They will have good enough talent to compete against Piedmont next year and regain the Conference Title...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 01, 2007, 01:20:17 pm
"GSAC".....

Check out my earlier post: "Blame the Maryville powers for that loss"

I talked to Dee numerous times after he decided to leave because he recruited Alex. I talked to him briefly last night at Lee University after they played their game in their conference tournament. I definitely know he didn't want to leave. I know the whole story. Thats all I'm going to say about that matter.

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on March 01, 2007, 01:29:12 pm
I was at the game!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on March 01, 2007, 05:34:33 pm
I liked Dee and not just because he was good for some pretty priceless quotes but take note that in his current rebuilding of Reinhardt I think MC recruiting will take a hit.
Carrie Bedsoe (Alcoa) has already signed, Bowman (Maryville) is reportedly close to deciding now that her season is over. Same story with the Galyon twins at South-Doyle.
I think Dee lands two of those four at MC if he was there and maybe without him recruiting East TN (which is natural, expected and accepted) Pardue lands one or two of those. But that's two impact players and one that could definitly be refined into a Saxe-like-threat likely headed to Ga. instead of Cooper Center.

Bottom line is regradless of how much better or worse you think the team would have been with Bell still there, he's definitly affecting the future of MC basketball.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on March 01, 2007, 07:20:59 pm
I know Dee bell's whole story also. I don't know MC's whole story though. I don't personally know one person who wanted Bell to leave MC. I sure didn't. I just wonder if there was a reason MC seemed to let him walk away--or did they? There are always 3 sides (in this case, Dee's, MC's, and the truth). Dee had what? 2 student assistant and some gym guy helping him. He coached, recruited etc. He became a husband and father...he was one busy man. Pardue comes along and I am not sure what they offered him $$$ wise compared to Bell but he does have 2 assistants who aren't students, right? Seems to me, money came from somewhere.

Anyway, I'm not saying Bell left to just leave MC. But he left and as a team the Lady Scots have to move on. When all the talk was happening about Randy going to UT and Beaty moved to GP, I had terrible visions of what was happening at MC b-ball. Luckily, the year turned out better than I was worrying about!  ;)

I think Nat will just be a JR this year coming up. (This I mention in reference to GHH saying something about SR year and if I read her right, I think she meant Nat's SR year but I am thinking she'll have 2 more years.)

While MC could have had these local girls, doesn't the fact play in that MC is $$$$$ and no scholarships compared to Reinhardt? Dee is the King of Recruiting, isn't he?  ;D  And there is always the fact that there are a lot of kids in this town who just want to leave home and will not even think of going to MC. (I have no idea whether these players would have wanted to come to MC or not whether Bell had still be here).

MC would probably not have struggled as they did this year if Bell had stayed. We would have seen a very different and confident team. However, having a new coach come in and losing quite a few players, I think the ladies held up great. It was a different year than they were expecting and I'm sure they learned a lot (on the court, off the court, about life and about themselves).

As far as Stache, I think she was a 3-point shooter. She looks very uncomfortable in the paint IMO. She doesn't show me her agressive side and I think that's what we need to see. She had a rough end of season time and you could tell her mind was worried. (I hope her brother stays safe).

I think Rachel Draper is someone who needs to work hard and be that type of Alex Bowers player who seemed to come out of nowhere and be all over the place! I think she has very good potential. I'm hoping for big things from and for her for next year!


Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 01, 2007, 08:58:50 pm
My error. Nat will only be a Jr. She has 2 more years to shine.

I have said this season that I felt Draper could have helped and played more. Also, Williams is a good shooter and minutes were few for her also.

I am disappointed, as all are, about the way the season ended but just as excited about the upcoming seasons. Pardue has a nice looking team coming back next year. With a few additions and some young players stepping up, we should be find and reclaim our mountain top. Then everything will be back to normal in MC land.

Hats off to Dee! Whenever we talk, he always wishes Pardue and the team continued success. He is killing us with his recruiting, but as stated earlier, $$$$ and the fact that some kids just want to leave the home area, there is no guarantee they would have come anyway. Example of that is Alex, she didn't want to go to Lee University because Mom works in the athletic department and she didn't want to see Mom everyday. Personally, I don't think Dee will be at Reinhardt as long as he was at MC.  Bigger things to come!

Pardue will be find (I hope). He found out its alot different making the final decisions instead of offering suggestions. His assistants need to be more of a part also. Practices definitely needs some major changes. It will work out.....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 02, 2007, 04:41:48 pm
I have never met Coach Pardue, but I do know that he is different from Dee in many ways.  Some players like one kind of coach and some like another.  Some like to be yelled at, some do not.  It is not a right and wrong thing, just different.  Any first-year head coach will learn a lot and some will get better each year.  Let's hope Pardue is one of those and builds on a pretty good start.

My sense is that Rhinehart and Maryville are not likely to attract the same kind of students in the first place and when you throw in the money and scholarship differences, they might not very often be struggling over the same players/students.  It took Dee a few years to build a recruiting base and it will take Pardue a while, too.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 03, 2007, 12:12:24 am
The first round NCAA results make it clear the Scots have a ways to go nationally.  Oglethorpe, Piedmont, and Transylvania all got beat pretty badly.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 03, 2007, 06:42:01 am
I definitely would not say that.

If you look at the Oglethorpe game, we had them down by as much as 20 in the first and second half and won, we beat Piedmont by 16 at our house and should have beat them in the Championship game. The Transylvania game, word is we just didn't show up to play that night.

I believe we were better than all 3 of those teams this year, but the fact is they went to the tournament and we stayed at home. You got to perform and play!!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 03, 2007, 04:01:50 pm
The D3 teams the Scots may have been better than/competitive with who got into the tournament got beat pretty badly.  I would think it would be a better sign of our national competitiveness had those teams done better in the opening round.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on March 06, 2007, 06:33:09 pm
I think the national level was better and judging by who those three got put against I wouldn't have been surprised that if MC had gottten in they would have drawn DePauw in the first round and been one and done.

There is a lot of talent in that frosh group that is rising up for sophomore level. Saw Draper shooting alone with the auto return machine this afternoon. Dee did use a few frosh but they were folks who were better than the starters, ie putting Nat in and putting Charise as the six last year or Mel her freshman season. I can't really argue with the way the freshman made it into the rotation this year. It actually looked like several of them who werent nervous early grew a little game nervous at season end and werent playing as nearly as well as they had early because of making mental mistakes with travels and bad fouls.

Scottie Doug, I think you do have a point in that there is a difference in the athletes an NAIA and MC go after, and maybe they wouldn't have gone MC anyway, but maybe so.

BTW South-Doyle High announced this afternoon that Kinsey and Kelsey Galyon will sign with Dee on Monday to go to Reinhardt.

I wonder if Carson-Newman is worried about a Dee Bell armed with scholarships?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 07, 2007, 04:53:11 pm
I feel next years team has the potential to be something special if:

1) All the big 3 returns: Natalie, Mel, and Saxe
2) Somebody steps up and makes a statement that I want to play point
3) Find a scorer and "definitely" a rebounder to help Saxe
4) Got to get much stronger on defense ...make stops at the end of games
5) A much more deversified offensive and defensive stradegies
6) Stronger leadership from the Coach and a verbal leader on the floor

Some of the younger ladies are going to have to step in and up. Opportunity?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 07, 2007, 11:26:06 pm
It will take Pardue a few years to establish relationships that lead to the kind of recruiting Dee was able to do after he had been around a while.  I do not know much about Rhinehart and its academic expectations.  Would the players he is signing in Knox and Blount Counties likely to have wanted to go to MC and could they have gotten in and afforded it?  Does Dee have full rides to give out?  What are the NAIA rules about that?

Questions, questions....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 09, 2007, 10:57:11 am
Coach Pardue is attending the State Tournament. Any new prospects anyone know or heard to speak of?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on March 09, 2007, 06:05:10 pm
Chelsi Hooper 5'7 wing/post from Greenback is committed last time we talked to her.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070223/PREP/702230301&SearchID=73274464982825

I don't know the full story but there is a post (Megan Peterson) at Seymour that Dee and CN were interested in but backed off of midseason. Not sure where she is on radar screen.
G-P has a decent prospect (Everhart?) that I'm guessing Katie Parton as the GP asst may be helping steer toward the program.
Kind of like the men most of the middle east tn talent have two things going
1)The good d3 caliber and not already cherry picked by D2 or NAIA are few  at the moment
2) some of the ones with the best potential simply aren't seniors this season

Not sure about the status on several girls in Greenville area and as to who Pardue might see at state they will be mid or west tn because outside of Austin East and Oliver Springs the East TN girls got devestated in the first round Wed and Thur.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 09, 2007, 11:27:03 pm
Thanks for the info, Batteredbard.  Keep us posted!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on March 22, 2007, 08:09:51 pm
Congrats to Summer Dalton for being named second team All South.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 30, 2007, 07:08:23 pm
Any improvement or dialogue between Mel, Natalie and Pardue? He better work hard to keep those two young ladies.

They started spring open gym, any new peeps showing up yet? Any solid commitments? I hear we had a kid who played point at Cleveland State show up one day? She would definitely solve the point guard position.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on March 30, 2007, 11:47:33 pm
Not sure on the gym situation at the moment as everyone was gone for spring break last week.
Bowman went to Bell on the 19th signing with Rhinedhardt. That gives Dee 4 from the area plus the three shooting guards he pulled out of the schools normal stomping grounds in Ga.

Killer, you're up at GP whats the word on Everhart?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on April 10, 2007, 01:09:46 pm
Signed to Belmont on an athletic scholarship but was promised a spot on the WOMENīS TEAM. Dee had the upperhand on her too. I donīt know what Coach Pardue has done this offseason but its going to be hard to replace with Reed, Dalton, and Seal!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 13, 2007, 09:07:13 am
We will definitely miss Beth, Summer and Kim.

Next years team is looking to be almost as strong as last years if all the pieces fall in place. Replacing the scoring from Summer looks to be the biggest issue from what I can see early. Natalie should step right in for Kim and we shouldn't miss a beat there. I hear we got the point from Cleveland State. She's a player. If we can get the post from Cleveland and if the 6'3" project post thats trying to work things out to come, develops into any kind of presence in the middle, we should be fine.

IMO...we got to improve 100% defensively!!! Got to be able to make stops!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 14, 2007, 12:23:16 am
I overheard Coach Pardue telling someone that the newly-committed point guard is very good and that the schedule will have more tough foes and that morale and workouts are going well.  I did not get to ask about Mel and Natalie or other recruits but he sounded upbeat and ready to start now.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 22, 2007, 11:21:59 pm
Starting point guard position taken care of. Jeanna Dalton, transfer from Cleveland State, signed papers Friday. Also heard rumor that Colleen might be returning. She played with Jeanna at Cleveland State last year.

Also slighty possible, a 6'2" post transfer from the University of Maryland @ Baltimore County. She played with Alex her junior year, the year that Walker Valley High School went to the State. Spent the last 2 years on the bench at UMBC. Shes looking for a place to play. Pardue talked to her, says she interested. We will see.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 23, 2007, 02:11:06 pm
What kind of game do these players bring?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 26, 2007, 08:50:10 am
Dalton has the total package. Good ball handling skills, pushes the ball and sees the floor very well, very capable of scoring but will definitely give it up on the break. Pretty good on the defense. She will definitely fill the void left by Beth. It will allow Pardue to keep Mel and Alex in the 2 / 3 positions. Dalton and Alicia will do great together.

If the post decides to come, Saxe, Natalie and her will be a 3-headed monster on the blocks. She has good size and a nice post up game. Able to kick it out and has a decent mid range jumper. Not a dominating rebounder but would be a nice compliment to Natalie and Saxe. I hope we get her. Now I really hope we get the post from Cleveland High. Talk about a monster on the boards. Not much of a scorer but she will get the rebounds. Rebounding killed us last year. We need rebounding and a defensive stopper. 

Pardue will have a nice team for next year!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 26, 2007, 12:44:41 pm
I gather that Mel and Natalie have not fled.  Is Alex better suited at 2/3 than point?  Keep us posted on the posts!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 26, 2007, 02:48:28 pm
Mel and Nat are still here so far.

Alex is more confortable at the 2. She usually guarded the best offensive person in the 1/2/3 position, but that was high school and this is college. Hopefully she will be completely healthy and strong. Her strength and quickness allowed her to guard bigger players.

The post from Cleveland High has verbally commited. Her high school coach is setting up a media day in Cleveland for her to sign papers. Still working on the post from UMBC.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 02, 2007, 11:19:23 pm
Mel and Nat are still here so far.

Alex is more confortable at the 2. She usually guarded the best offensive person in the 1/2/3 position, but that was high school and this is college. Hopefully she will be completely healthy and strong. Her strength and quickness allowed her to guard bigger players.

The post from Cleveland High has verbally commited. Her high school coach is setting up a media day in Cleveland for her to sign papers. Still working on the post from UMBC.   
Make sure that the local media informs the populace about the nature of the "scholarship" that she is getting!  LOL!   ;D :D ;D :D 8)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 03, 2007, 08:58:55 am
Mel and Nat are still here so far.

Alex is more confortable at the 2. She usually guarded the best offensive person in the 1/2/3 position, but that was high school and this is college. Hopefully she will be completely healthy and strong. Her strength and quickness allowed her to guard bigger players.

The post from Cleveland High has verbally commited. Her high school coach is setting up a media day in Cleveland for her to sign papers. Still working on the post from UMBC.   
Make sure that the local media informs the populace about the nature of the "scholarship" that she is getting!  LOL!   ;D :D ;D :D 8)

HuH....?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 03, 2007, 04:59:41 pm
Maryville's press releases often but not always say something like this:
As an NCAA Division III institution, Maryville College does not award scholarships based on athletic performance; however, for his proven academic ability and accomplishments, the Morristown West High School graduate has been awarded the Maryville College Scots Scholarship.

I imagine this is what Ralph was referring to.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 04, 2007, 02:45:06 pm
Maryville's press releases often but not always say something like this:
As an NCAA Division III institution, Maryville College does not award scholarships based on athletic performance; however, for his proven academic ability and accomplishments, the Morristown West High School graduate has been awarded the Maryville College Scots Scholarship.

I imagine this is what Ralph was referring to.
The battered bard will do it right!  How many times do we see some local paper commenting on the "Athletic" scholarship that some player is getting to a D3 school!   :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 15, 2007, 04:31:07 pm
Looks as if the post from UMBC is going to TN Wesleyan.

Might not get the post from Cleveland High either. NAIA Southern Poly Tech has supposely offered her a full scholarship. She still deciding.

Colleen is suppose to be returning.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 16, 2007, 12:06:07 am
I hope some of these young people think hard about what kind of college degree and experience they want to have for use in the very large part of their lives that will follow basketball.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on May 17, 2007, 10:50:26 pm
Kept my nose out of it and haven't heard any news lately--had not even read here until now, & now I see I am already waiting for the season to get started. Here's to a strong and united MC Lady Scots season for '07-'08.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 20, 2007, 01:07:36 am
I understand that McMurry is coming to the Murvul women's holiday tourney!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 21, 2007, 12:20:17 am
Which holiday?  You'll come too, right?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 21, 2007, 06:36:12 am
Doug, I think that it is late December tourney.

As for my coming, the last week of the year is one of my busiest weeks at work.  I probably won't be able to make it.

Even with the coaching change, everyone is supposed to return, with the exception of graduating All-American Point Guard Symbri Tuttle.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 21, 2007, 11:44:32 am
If it is very late December (after Christmas), I'll be at the beach.  Miss some good ball then sometimes, but first things first.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on May 21, 2007, 11:47:11 am
I think, as of now, both Natalie and Mel are returning. That's good news for us Lady Scots fans!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 24, 2007, 02:33:17 pm
Went to open gym Tuesday. Post from Cleveland showed up. Her and Saxe went at it pretty good. She made a very good first time impression. Heard a few players asking her to come to Maryville, telling her she would help the team immediately.

Draper looked good on the wing, not at post. Dalton and Colleen solidifies point. Mel solid as usual. Looked as if Jeff has a very nice looking team coming back. Looks as if he needs 1 more post player. He said he is still working on a couple of kids. I hope they are posts.

Now, can he teach this team to play defense and rebound.

One noticable absentee: Natalie....hurt or something a couple of players said.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 24, 2007, 02:39:26 pm
What did you mean by "Dalton and Colleen solidifies point."  If Natalie is ok and comes back and the Cleveland Kid shows up, this could be fun.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 24, 2007, 04:46:11 pm
Until Dalton and Colleen came, only true point was Alicia. Mel and Alex more fitted for the 2/3. Having those 2 gives him more depth at that point guard position.

IMHO, I don't think the Natalie situation/issues are going to work out.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 29, 2007, 12:35:22 pm
Here is the link to MC's announcement about the first three recruits:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=1990

Anyone know much about these three, sep. not Dalton, about whom we have gotten some insight on this board?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: colincondi on May 29, 2007, 07:49:50 pm
The Murval women averaged 562 fans to lead the conference by a good margin.  I wonder if that puts them close to a top 10 national ranking (the men were 6th).

GSAC attendance figures:

1)  MC men...         1474
2)  MC women...     562
3)  PC men...          399
4)  PC women...      301
5)  LC men...           242
6)  AS women...      217
7)  LC women...      170
8)  HC women...      124 (outdrew their men)
9)  HC men...           102
10) WC women...     52
11) SC women...      10 (I can't believe this is correct)

Like the men, the Murval women's homecourt advantage has to help...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 29, 2007, 08:16:20 pm
UW-Eau Claire was No. 10 at 737.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 29, 2007, 09:41:12 pm
UW-Eau Claire was No. 10 at 737.
MissColl women averaged 606 for 13 games to rank #3 in the ASC;  McMurry 592 for 11 home games;  UMHB  573 for 12 games.

Please scroll down for ASC Women's attendance figures. (http://www.americansouthwestconf.org/stats-womenbasketball/confldrs.htm)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 30, 2007, 05:20:58 pm
If Jeff gets everybody back from last year team, all healthy and in the right frame of mind, with the addition of Dalton at point and assuming he gets the post from Cleveland, all indications are she is now coming, (IMHO) hopefully change his mind about playing Natalie primarily outside and Draper inside, they will be stronger (IMHO) this year than last. More depth, more size, more scoring ability in all 5 spots.

Now, he has to develop and use that depth to his advantage, but its there.

Defense....Defense....Defense.....Rebou nding.....Rebounding......Rebounding

Potential headache with keeping everybody happy with minutes....looks like he will have almost 20 kids starting out.....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 30, 2007, 11:18:59 pm
GHH:  Do you know anything about the two recruits other than Dalton who were announced?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on May 31, 2007, 08:07:37 am
The post player from"GP" is ok. Not very physical or athletic. Decent touch. Could become a decent role player in the years to come.

Some news on a former Fighting Scot and MC coach: http://www.goredhawks.com/
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 31, 2007, 09:10:42 am
GHH:  Do you know anything about the two recruits other than Dalton who were announced?

"GSAC Killer" assessment of the post is "very" accurate.
The guard is listed as 5'4, but looks smaller. Will be hard for either to get minutes this year.

I wonder if Bledsoe, Bowman or the Galyon twins will ask for their release now or stay?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 31, 2007, 10:54:06 am
Was MC anywhere near getting any of Dee's recruits to go to MC?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 31, 2007, 05:18:14 pm
Maybe Bledsoe and Bowman, I doubt Kelsey and Kinsey.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 06, 2007, 01:12:21 pm
I would like to thank everyone for their prayers, words of encouragement, and well wishes during Alex's surgery and rehab. She was officially dismissed yesterday and will begin slowly getting back into her playing form. Her spirits were kept high by all of you making her feel wanted, cared about and still part of the team even though she was injured and not playing. She is looking forward to staying healthty and contributing to the success of the team this upcoming year. She shot around yesterday during open gym and today will begin her off season weights and conditioning programs with her personal trainer. She's excited! Again we thank you!

Also encouraged by some dialogue from the Coach on him saying he was putting forth a effort to work on and make things work with Natalie. Now she has to do the same.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 07, 2007, 11:58:45 am
Good to hear that Alex is ready to get ready.   Having never seen her play, I am more than a little curious!

Are there players, or just one, whose standing on the team and leadership instincts can lead her to help persuade Natalie seriously to explore whatever it will take for her to want to play?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 20, 2007, 05:15:55 pm
Who is the new male assistant that Coach Pardue has added to his staff? 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 26, 2007, 12:42:49 pm
It is my understanding that Ron Wilson, former head coach of women's bb at Heritage High School in Blount County, will be working with the Scots.  He was a very successful hs coach for a long time and stepped down recently to take a hs admin job.   Very intense fellow!   He had really good teams, well-coached, at Heritage.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 26, 2007, 11:00:11 pm
Is this the Coach that was there when Cait was there?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on June 27, 2007, 04:29:59 pm
No, Wilson was not Cait's coach. Howard was. I am not sure what Wilson last coached at HHS.
Far as I know, Coach Wilson is a well-respected man and coach.

First day of Pardue's first b-ball camp seemed like a success. Very well organized and program planned.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: coachwgh on June 28, 2007, 08:59:34 am
http://www.lagrange.edu/athletics/womens-basketball/news-Isenhour.htm

This is a link to great news at LaGrange. Once there you can also  read an article on Britsky's new career move.  We will miss her and wish her the best and are super excited about Mark coming back.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on June 28, 2007, 04:44:17 pm
We all know that Country BBQ was probably what brought him back to LaGrange!  ;) 
Congratulations on the new head coach!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 26, 2007, 10:02:17 am
Anybody got a clue as to when we get to met Mr Wilson? Its been over a month since the hiring and he has not showed at any open gyms or to meet the girls. Actually, I don't think many even know there is a new assistant coming in.

Another item, which this is just our second year associated with MC, but is it normal "NOT" to have some type of off season weight program for the ladies? Doing nothing in the weight room until school starts, late August, the season starts Mid November, seems kind of strange to me.   

Hate we lost the post from Cleveland. Draper injury not as serious as first thought.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on July 27, 2007, 10:54:45 am
I am not close enough to anyone who knows to answer your very good questions.

To where did MC lose the Cleveland post?

What injury to Draper?  Any word re: returning players, esp. Natalie and Mel?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 27, 2007, 04:43:34 pm
The post from Cleveland, K. Edwards, is attending Cleveland State in Cleveland Tennessee. Hope to be able to transfer to MC soon.

Draper turned her knee. Thought at first it was a complete ACL tear, but found after MRI and scoping her knee, that was not the case. This happened about 3/4 weeks back I think. Talked to her at open gym Tuesday night. Says she expects to be back playing in hopefully 4/6 weeks. In a brace.

Mel has been at most all open gyms. She didn't know anything about a new assistant.

Nat is involved helping coach an AAU team. Been there a few times. Been out of town traveling with them quite a bit from what I hear. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on July 28, 2007, 07:58:47 am

I am just curious, how did you know Wilson was added to the staff? Did your daughter hear that as a team member? He is not listed on MC's website as an assistant (yet anyway). Strange for one player to know and not another.  ???

Maybe Wilson is a good match with Pardue. I would have never thought it though.

As far as weights, I've never seen structure for off season with it.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 28, 2007, 04:52:07 pm
No...my daughter did not tell me. She has not met or seen him either, nor did she know anything about it when I first asked her, around the end of last month. I was told by one of the assistants who was there last year. Pardue told them.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on July 29, 2007, 07:56:07 pm
Well, I think it is good that your daughter didn't know either...wouldn't you think that should come to the team when they are together for the news? I'm not a coach so I don't know the ins and outs like you probably do. But it only makes sense to me that an assistant coach is a preety big thing and this person is going to have a big influence in your game and life--I'd like it to come when my team was hearing it together (if that makes sense). I would love to hear how Wilson and Pardue got together.  :) They just seem a odd match to me.  :P

Surely she and the team will meet him soon. Keep us updated if you hear anything official!

How's Alex feeling about her fitness level. I saw her once this summer and she looked good but she wasn't playing when I saw her. I am very excited for the season to be here and to see her play!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 29, 2007, 10:32:43 pm
I guess my feeling was the ladies went through this "new" coach situation last year at the last moment, and its happening again this year. As you mention and I totally agree about it being a big thing, so I guess I was just thinking it would be nice if they at least met him before school started, instead of getting hit mentally again with a "new" person 3 months before the season starts. 

I don't know Wilson so I don't know how they got together. 

Alex is working very hard on her fitness and strength. Working out hard 3 times a week with her personal weight trainer and 2 times a week in the gym for about 2 hours running, shooting, ball handling, agility work, etc.  Her knee is great with no swelling or pain. She's actually ready and want to play, but I have held her out. She will start playing in open gym when shool starts, maybe before, no rush. She will then be almost 9 months out of ACL surgery.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 07, 2007, 10:33:06 pm
Willson was at open gym tonight. Interesting guy I must say. Not impressed with his foul language and mouth on the sideline watching. Hopefully that will not be the case when he starts working with the ladies. I wonder how Pardue and Wilson got together. This has the shaping of being a interesting year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 18, 2007, 08:49:20 pm
Latest report from open gym Thursday. Natalie was there and she is looking good and ready to play. She has lost weight, seems to be healthy and energized. Nobody there was working any harder than her getting up and down the floor. I talked to her and shes excited about the upcoming year and even said she was going to try real hard to make things work with Pardue.

I see a solid starting five of : Natalie / Katie @ posts, Mel / Colleen @ wing, Dalton @ point.

Now, competition for playing time gets tough. Alicia, Draper, Flem and Alex are probably the first 4 off the bench in no particular order. Koral, Robin and Haley should get minutes also.

I have not seem the post from Volunteer State or the wing from Hiwassee College who are suppose to be coming. If the post can play, she might get alot of minutes since it seems the post position is where we are kind of thin after the starters. The lady from Hiwassee is suppose to be a scorer, so if we struggle putting points up, she might move up in the rotation. We might have as many as 19 players, a possible JV team.



 





Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on August 19, 2007, 12:41:44 pm
Sounds promising.  If Natalie is healthy, she will play well and a lot.  A third and fourth post player will help so the post transfer could be a key to the puzzle.  Seems like guard and wing are deep, esp. if the transfer is as rumored.   

Keep us posted up!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 30, 2007, 01:50:19 pm
I see that McMurry women (LIB) are coming to the Maryville tourney over Thanksgiving weekend to play B-SC and Greensboro.  I wish we were playing Maryville instead of B-SC!  The B-SC game will not be an in-region game.  :-\
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on September 06, 2007, 11:44:30 am
Got a few thoughts from Pardue yesterday on the schedule.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070906/SPORTS/70906018 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070906/SPORTS/70906018)

Watched the team play some five on five. From what I saw there are several potential energetic scorers new to the team. How they get focused and worked into the offense could be a challenge. They definitely need some tutelage.
Even though it was pick up two big thing stuck out to me, guards penetrating too far or not enough and then forcing a shot against a post rather than passing out of trouble. The second one I saw from several of the freshmen was the natural slack in pick up about offensive rebounding but making that sloppier was a tendency to get cute with a tip try or a spin away rather than simply planting and taking it back up strong. (It's not spectacular but fundamentally hard to argue against its success)

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on September 06, 2007, 07:41:36 pm
20 ladies on the roster ( Koral Stache not listed, is she playing?) 9 or 10 returning from last year's squad.

Got 3 out with injuries: Draper(knee), Jessica (knee), Ashley (hand)

Alex tweaked the same knee a couple of weeks ago. Doctor who performed surgery did a manual exam Tuesday. Said everything still felt solid and fine. He scheduled a MRI for next Tuesday for precaution, results next Thursday. She's struggling with her confidence and game right now, trying to play in a brace. Don't know how this is going to turn out.

Watched the whole squad a couple of times since school started. Like you said, there is some new talent there who needs some teaching and fundamental issues. Offense and scoring is the main thing in open gym it seems, so not a whole lot of passing from anyone, which I feel is contributing to the guards getting in too deep. Hopefully that will change. The transfer post from Volunteer State I feel will contribute this year. 






Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 19, 2007, 11:10:29 pm
Interesting stuff on the USAC Football board (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4562.4824)

Most of the Maryville football fans have heard this, but there is a post by "battered bard" concerning the speculation of what happens to the GSAC, if Maryville were to leave the GSAC to join the USA South.

Of course, Randy Lambert is the Maryville AD, and his efforts to build the GSAC cannot be underestimated.  However, one school's (e.g., Maryville's) leaving the GSAC will cause the GSAC to lose its automatic qualifier bid.  Two schools' leaving would begin to unravel the entire conference.

It would almost look like that Fisk got out just in time.  :-\

I have stated multiple times that I think that the wisest move by the GSAC would be to go en bloc to the USA South as the Southern Division.  I hope that the powers that be can move as one whole group and not split up for the sake of selfish or narrow-focused reasons.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on October 05, 2007, 08:38:28 am
Been working alot and have not been able to make any open gyms the last month or so. Anyone got any info on how things are shaping up? Especially interested in the Pardue / Wilson tag team.

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 02, 2007, 11:28:58 am
Here is the first of many Daily Times articles about the 2007-08 Scots:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20071102/SPORTS/71102015
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on November 02, 2007, 05:14:36 pm
Koral decided not to play this season.
Haley Williams (farrragut, sophomore) also left the team. Chelsea Sexton a freshman from Oneida is in school but not playing this season as she's working on academics.

From the little I've seen natalie looks to finally be healthy which is good. The leadership issue needs to get resolved soon and I don't think it's going to be a senior only solution.

From the bits and pieces around Cooper, the Scots won in a scrimmage at King (who i think returned 4 of 5 starters but it might be 3) with the offense not yet on track.

I like a couple of the frosh from watching a little open gym. I hope this is a team that gradually evolves an identity and solidifies on the trip out west. With this much new talent it could devolve just as easily. two weeks to find out.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 13, 2007, 06:56:49 pm
Koral decided not to play this season.
Haley Williams (farrragut, sophomore) also left the team. Chelsea Sexton a freshman from Oneida is in school but not playing this season as she's working on academics.

Megan Doty, freshman, guard, quit the team. Transfering to King.

Lauren Gulley, freshman, post, quit the team. Transfering to Sewanee.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 17, 2007, 11:14:11 pm
Scots winning a tournament on the road to start the year seems like a good beginning to me!!  Inside game w/Katie and Natalie strong. Mel did not play the first game and barely did in the second. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 17, 2007, 11:51:21 pm
Y'all get to see McMurry next weekend.

I wish we were playing Murvul instead of BSC!  The BSC game doesn't help with OWP/OOWP!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 17, 2007, 11:54:17 pm
except for those of us who "get to" go to NJ for inlaws turkey day....I would really like to stay here and see the men's and women's tourneys....very occasionally love is a bummer....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 18, 2007, 01:59:00 am
Scots winning a tournament on the road to start the year seems like a good beginning to me!!  Inside game w/Katie and Natalie strong. Mel did not play the first game and barely did in the second. 

The reason Mel didn't play was because she quit the team Thursday before they left Maryville.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 18, 2007, 01:16:54 pm
Playing time?  "Philosophical differences?" Money?  Academics?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 19, 2007, 12:31:27 pm
The EMU-MC game must have been pretty good.  See:
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=2246
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on November 25, 2007, 06:54:44 pm
It is heartbreaking to me not see Mel out there playing. She made a choice and did what she felt she had to do. Last season she really got a hold of her academics so I hope she is doing well in her classes. She's still in school so it isn't a $$ deal (and I hope she stays and graduates). She's a great ball player and a thinker on the court. I have never seen anyone else play quite the way Mel played. As far as why she is not there now, my lips are sealed. She did what she needed to do.

I thought the girls did very well Friday and Saturday. They played a school who was D1 just last season. Nat seemed much more 'up' than last year. That's good news for me as I am a fan of Natalie.  :) We need an outside shooter, I don't think he has anyone at this point who can put away a consistant 3.
I'm wondering how the girls like the complete opposite style of Yogi's style compared to Pardue. People tell me he is a good balance. I will try to trust them on that. Otherwise I'll just shut up and watch the game.  ;)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 25, 2007, 10:24:30 pm
I've watched all 4 games. The 2 things that stand out big so far to me is, as mentioned in above thread, no consistant 3-threat and turnovers. 86 turnovers in 4 games. Got to protect the ball better.

Hate to see Mel leave also. Being short handed in the guard position, we will definitely miss her. Nat is definitely more in to it this year. Season is early but defense got to improve. Giving up too easy in man-to-man when we get beat. Hearing "HELP" too much.

The ladies are playing pretty well. 3-1 is probably where they should be. Everyone should get to play versus Wesleyan (GA). Some of the starters, especially Alicia and Katie will get some rest, averaging 36/33 minutes so far. After that, next 3 games, Carson Newman, Emory and Transylvania will tell us alot. Would love to be 7-1 after next four games but would take 6-2.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on November 27, 2007, 04:11:35 pm
Put Saturday's loss in context. Birmingham Southern beat McMurry, who is now No. 11 in today's poll,  Friday night. True Richardson was in foul trouble against BS but that's going to be a focus of  a lot of teams against her. She can take so much advantage against a smaller player that she's going to get some bad whistles.

What I'd like to see is the MC staff show tape of McM guard Amber Horton. Talk about a defender!! There's alot to learn there in how focused and smart she is with her feet and hands.

I agree with GottaHaveHeart (check your shoes for ice as it may have gotten very cold very fast in the infernal regions ;D) the defense was lacking for MC, some was surrender and there were a few moments that I didn't get the concept of a 1-3-1 press being deployed against ateam with better, more experienced guards unless it was a lesson for later of some sort. There are going to be opportunities outside because coaches are going to see Saxe and Munday as the primary threat in the post. Thats where losing Mel will hurt - her ability to hit the corner 3 and the slash and dish inside. Turnovers have to get better. Saxe got charged with five but I only saw one where it wasnt a result of a forced or bad entry pass.

BTB aren't there 6 other GSAC schools that should be posting on this board? I cant believe Piedmont with that fan base doesnt have somebody on here.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 03, 2007, 12:45:59 am
Lost another one...... ???

Jessica Burse, wing, JR transfer from Hiwassee College, quit the team Saturday. That makes 7, so far.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 03, 2007, 12:08:36 pm
It's asking a lot of D3 players to put the time and energy into a varsity sport and not get to play much.  Except for Mel, haven't most of the players who quit been short on playing time?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 03, 2007, 10:51:20 pm
Jessica actually played some Thanksgiving weekend. I am not sure whether it was both games or not.

What's the deal?  ??? Ones wonders if it is the coach(es), the players (team attitude means almost everything), the school, what?! This is crazy losing 7 players, isn't it? Last year we lost a lot of players but I expected it when Bell left and we were looking for a coach (and even after we got one). It just seems like our retention rate is declining awfully fast. So, did Jessica burse quit only the team or also MC?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 04, 2007, 10:22:51 am
The early roster had a whole lot people listed...I did not count them but it was nearly 20, I think.  Without an active JV system and several coaches, I do not think it likely that 20 players will hang around to see if they can play a few minutes when it is not close.

The again it could be that the coaches are jerks or that some of the players do not like to work hard at what is supposed to be a game. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 04, 2007, 11:23:51 am
Since my daughter, as of now, is still a member of the team, I will refrain from commenting on certain issues. It would not be appropriate.

I will comment though on a issue about her. She tore her ACL 2 weeks before the opener last year. Had surgery, did her rehab. Came back this year and kind of tweaked it in open gym. She is still having pain and not able to play yet. She still  attends all practices, goes to all the games, sits on the bench keeping stats. Did that all last year too. Pretty good team-mate I would say. Teammates respect that type dedication. Well, in a recent conversation Pardue had with her, he told her that even if she came back healthy, shes so far behind, (this is 4 games into the season), the only way she would get to play any important minutes would be if someone else went down with a injury, so you should just think about getting healthy for next year. I'm not saying my daughter should play, or play in front of anyone, but after working as hard as she has/is to come back, that statement just didn't sit too well with me or Alex. I think if she's healthy, and unless our team has no weaknesses or needs in the guard position, she deserves/earned a shot.

Maybe this will give you some direction as to why kids are quitting.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 04, 2007, 02:31:39 pm
GottaHaveHeart:  You often have advocated some players "earning" playing time by virtue of being around longer than some newbie (I am thinking of Alicia last year).  I do not necessarily disagree with you, but any coach who wants to win has to make some decisions based on factors in addition to (not instead of) your point.

I really want to see Alex play!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 04, 2007, 11:02:48 pm
Scottiedoug: I don't remember ever saying your playing time should depend on how long you have been there, even though I do believe in a little loyalty. I believe your reference to Alicia was a game in which someone was hurt and Alicia started instead of Nat. I still stand by my statement that he should have started Nat because she is definitely more of an impact player that can take over a game, than Alicia. Also, there were issues going on with Nat and the Coach and we were getting toward the end of the season, toward tournament time and I felt the rewards for starting Nat heavily outweighted starting Alicia at that time, to get Nat mentally involved for the stretch run, with the players we had.

Believe me, I understand a coach has to make certain decisions for certain reasons. I also understand there is a way to treat players also. I have coached Community Center League, in Elementary School, AAU ages 12u - 16u. Coached a 16u team in the National Tournament, so I understand a little about basketball and dealing with parents and kids, over 20 years of it to be exact. There is a way to treat players with diginity and respect and still accomplish your goals.

Good possibility Alex should be ready by our first game in Jan. Probably could play before then, but don't want to risk it. If she is not ready by Jan.1, she will have her knee scoped and will probably miss the rest of this season also.

Thanks also! I want to see Alex play too!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 04, 2007, 11:29:20 pm
About the game tonight:
CN is a well coached team. I thought our ladies played pretty good tonight. Rebounding was our main thorn tonight. Haven't seen the stats yet, but they killed us on their offensive ends and most of the time, it was one shot and done for us. We still looking for that consistent 3-point shooter, but we definitely got some people stepping up, making shots. Turnovers also. Entry post passes and posts outlet passes. I think some of the turnovers were from just being tired, with a 8 person rotation.

CN did what "batteredbard" mention good teams would do. Pack that zone in around Nat and Katie.

I thought we looked a little winded tonight. CN got up and down the court. Overall though, I thought we played pretty well against a good CN team.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 04, 2007, 11:46:58 pm
I think you summed it up pretty good GTHH! Rebounding was killing us.

Don't know if you remember C-N last year but it went the same way. First half we could hang with them pretty good, second half we were worn out. And boy were they physical tonight!

I said tonight I'd love to see Lambert coach our girls one season. I bet they'd look like a different team.

I really do not know what is going on with them (all of them--coaches and team) but you can tell that something is not working right.

I'm dying to know what the girls think of Yogi. Nice to see Summer there tonight.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 07, 2007, 11:30:08 am
Saturday's game versus Emory should be a good test.

Emory led #25 ranked Oglethorpe, on Oglethorpe home floor, by 7 at the half and led by as many as 15 early in the 2nd half, before losing by 9, 87-78.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 08, 2007, 01:22:12 am
GottaHaveHeart,

I assume you just read the first half box score upside down.  OU was down by 13 at the half... and that was after a brief comeback... they were easily down by 18-20.  Oglethorpe used a 26-7 run after the break to get back into the game.  Emory played a pretty good game but I can honestly say the reason the game looked the way it did was b/c of OU's play (of lack there of) and the fact that 63 fouls were called. 

Emory v. OU is always a tough game due to the rivalry so I wouldn't really look into the fact that they played a top 25 team tough... there are outlying factors that should be considered.

With all that being said... You'll have your hands full with Lora Turner and Kaplan.  There guards are quick and they played really good defense against us.  I doubt they'll come out with the same intensity against Murvull... especially if it's at your home court.  A large rowdy crowd gets Emory off their game... I suggest having the Scotties our in full force. 

Good luck... there's nothing more that I like better than seeing Emory lose.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 08, 2007, 07:15:35 am
FlightofthePetrel:

Didn't have my glasses on while looking at box score!  ;D

Thanks for correction and info on the game. Congrats on the comeback and win!

It's at their place but hopefully we can play well and come away with a win.

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on December 08, 2007, 11:50:56 am
Thanks for the congrats... Should be just like a Neutral site game as Emory doesn't really pack a gym that well- especially for girls games.  Good luck none the less, we'll see ya'll back down this way on the 15th of January.  I'm sure the girls are looking forward to getting some redemption for knocking the Petrels out of the tournament a few years ago.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 08, 2007, 08:11:38 pm
Nice win for the ladies!

Wasn't able to attend game, but looking at box, we played well. Only 12 turnovers, awesome! Alicia played 39 mins with just 1 TO....can't beat that for a point guard. Katie (senior) stepping up making both FTs with 16 secs left in game and score tied.

Definitely a better job rebounding as a team!
Keep working on that 3-point shooting!

Transylvania next Saturday at our place. We owe them one from last year when we played so bad up there.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 16, 2007, 10:54:32 am
HORRIBLE LOSS vs (3-4) Transylvania.

Our defense is totally aweful. Guard penetration is killing us. Why are we trapping? What is our sub pattern based on? How many fast breaks do you give up before you decide to keep somebody back. Offense is all the same old motion play with no options. Shooting way too many 3's..(30)...We hit 1 and go 3 crazy. We shooting 27% for the year, don't that tell you something. We got 3 dang good post players and for them to get shots, they got to step out and shoot 3's..you kidding me. Nobody rebounding but Saxe. No way we should have lost to that team. You can see the players are frustrated.

Nat in tears after game.

Interesting "team" comments Pardue made in thedailytimes. At least he knows he got a problem and its not all him.

Good luck in the 2 games out West. Enjoy the trip. Be safe! 


Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 16, 2007, 07:58:59 pm
And funny, their coach said our defense was solid  ??? What defense was he seeing?!

I agree our players are frustrated. Did Alicia ever come out of the game yesterday? She's playing a lot of minutes and looked exhausted yesterday. She is going to be ripe for an injury if he doesn't watch it.
With the way they looked out there yesterday, I could not help but wonder how frustrating it must be to be on the bench and not given any kind of a chance. Players were either "off" or something and maybe someone on the bench should have been given a chance.

Nat's fighting injury and some of those tears were from pain. Frustration was prevelant with all of them yesterday with many feeling like "they" were the problem. Looks to me that are problems are much deeper.

I've never seen lady Scot basketball like that. I hope I don't see any more games like that one.  :'(
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 16, 2007, 10:21:28 pm
yea but if Transy had not had that quick guard who did not stay hurt, the Scots would have won anyway.  Nobody could stay with her.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 17, 2007, 01:16:21 am
yea but if Transy had not had that quick guard who did not stay hurt, the Scots would have won anyway.  Nobody could stay with her.

It don't matter if that guard had played all 40 mins....we still should have beat that team......That guard was still in the game when we were leading (20 - 10) ... before we went 3 happy.....sad to think we need another teams best player to get hurt before we can win....what happened to compete?

Alicia did play all 40 mins.....sub pattern  ???.....always playing her and Jeanna together
What defense did the other Coach see....the one that allowed his team to shoot 51% in the second half and 45% for the whole game.....

Tell you what....if we don't turn things around quick and get some leadership and
stability, starting with the Coach and carrying over to the players, this could get ugly....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 17, 2007, 10:40:20 am
I did not see the defense Transy's coach saw, esp. in the second half.  I have not seen the Scots but twice but have thought Rachel Draper seemed quick and able to score in transition.  I think I'd play her some more to see if I'm wrong.  As you said, the Scots have three post players who can score, but not without the ball and some picks.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 17, 2007, 11:43:26 pm
I agree. Things have got to change. I realize it is hard to change coaches and all of that but this seems ridiculous to me. I think Pardue seems to go to bat for these girls and encourages them with their academics and that is a good thing because there is life after the games. Maybe he hasn't figured out coaching women yet?  ??? I wonder how their communication is?

At 3:15 a.m. Sunday morning I awoke to some horrible wind noise. All I could think about was those girls boarding that plane for their trip. Some have never flown, some have and aren't fond of flying and that wind was wicked! So, I laid there worrying about them. I feel sure my worry helped.  ;)

Have you heard how the flight was? That is a far away road trip--esp. when flying has been an issue in the past when they've made the NCAA tourney. Oh well. I hope they win and I hope they return to us safely.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 18, 2007, 10:02:11 am
Well, thank God, they made it there safe. Flight from Nashville to Chicago was cancelled. I was glad to hear that with all the bad weather up in Chicago area. Didn't realize the re-route was going to be such a headache. If my info is correct, they flew from Nashvile to L.A., changed flights, flew to San Jose, changed flights, flew into Seattle, which left them with a 3 hour drive to wherever they were going. This was Alex first time flying so she called us a few times. Took them about 22 hours from start to hotel room. Hopefully the return trip will go better.

They had a brief practice yesterday at 12:30pm, then went site seeing. Went to the Nike headquarters. Last time Alex called, they were downtown Portland, walking around. Said they were having a good time.

Hopefully they will be somewhat over the flight lag/time change and play well today. Game is at 10pm EST, 7pm PST. They play Linfield (OR) who are 5-2.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 18, 2007, 10:46:56 am
Portland is a great city.  I hope they have fun out there!  This trip, or at least the idea of it, is a nice bonus for all the hard work they players do.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 19, 2007, 01:01:14 am
We lost 76-65.

Nat didn't play, was sick. Only 7 people played with Saxe and Alicia playing all 40 mins. Alicia was just 1-9 so she's probably feeling the minutes. Colleen must to have been in foul trouble most of the night, as she fouled out with only 1 shot attempt in 22 mins. Ladies were still probably feeling the effects of the marathon flight travel out there. To play only 7....... ???

Linfield shot 51% ........ 59% from 3-point land.

They play Pacific Lutheran University Thursday night, 5pm PST, 8pm EST.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 20, 2007, 07:52:46 am
What a trip out there! I feel for them. And then add the time change to it all...ugh!

Glad Alex said they were having a good time and getting some sight seeing in. 22 hours for your flight!! Well, bless her heart--flying should only get better than that in her future!

Sorry to hear they lost. I'll be waiting to hear what tonight brings for them. They need a win.
Looking at the weather map, it looks like the NW is in for some snow. I'll just be glad when they are back and safe at home. Geez...what would I be like if I was one's momma! :o

40 mins. for Katie and Alicia? OK, I think with Alicia he is trying to set some sort of record for most mins. played in MC history.
I hope Natalie is feeling better and that no one else catches it. Flights are known for passing the germs around!

GHH. Please post when Alex is home.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on December 20, 2007, 12:07:28 pm
piedmont not playing good ball but still with a 9-2 record.  their best ball is still to come
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 20, 2007, 10:46:39 pm
We lost 74-53. I watched live play-by-play game stats while they played.

Same old story, no defense and we having major problems scoring. Natalie played 18 mins tonight, scored 14 points, leading scorer. Alison was only other player in double figured with 10 points. Saxe did the work on the boards with 12. Alexis got 19 mins of playing time tonight. Alicia played the whole game straight through until 3 mins left, even though game was actually for all intent and purposes, over at the 10:30 min mark of the second half, we were down by 17.

We had 24 turnovers and shot 2-15 ( 13%) from 3-point. Only 7 offensive rebounds the whole game. Hard to win with those stats combined with allowing your opposition to shoot 47% from the field, which includes 44% from 3-point.

I really feel for the ladies who didn't get to play in either game after making that marathon trip. No reason everyone shouldn't have played tonight. We got starters in the game with 3 mins to go, down by 17, and got kids on the bench who had not touched the floor in this game or the game Tuesday night. As I had stated in a earlier post, if you are going to be a leader, you have to treat your players with "dignity and respect" and you still can accomplish your goals.

I'm just wondering......when was the last time Maryville was 5 -5 after 10 games? We got too much, too much talent on this team to be playing like this. Something just not clicking.

Hopefully, the break will do everyone some good!

I pray for your safe return! Happy Holidays to All!

12-21-2007 @ 2:45pm EST....Team is safe back on campus!!!!  :D ;D 8) :)




 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 21, 2007, 05:20:29 pm
GHH,,

I am so glad they are home. I am sure they are too and are looking forward to a break from all this.

When have they been 5-5? I do not remember. I hope the girls know they have our support even though this is such a rough season. We're not fair weathered fans. I hope Coach can come up with something over the holidays to help this team. I wonder if everyone will even return after the break? Glad Natalie is feeling better and I hope the rest can stay healthy.

Merry Christmas to everyone. I'm hoping Santa will bring us what we need! ;)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 23, 2007, 11:47:47 am
I am less worried about the record than the absence of some other signs of a good team...outside scoring, ball-handling, defense....  The trip out west was tough because of the travel and those teams they played may be pretty good. Losing to CN does not prove much, either.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 23, 2007, 10:00:32 pm
I mentioned the record because with 5 losses already, we have absolutely no chance of getting an at large bid to NCAA Tournament. We have to win Conference Tournament, probably us and Piedmont in finals again, on Piedmont home floor.

We just need to get things together. We got the talent. I would like to see him shake-up the starting lineup. Maybe that will light a fire! Don't matter what we do though, if we don't improve on defense and come up with something where we can get some shots, other than 3s, we in trouble anyway.

We will see what changes, if any, are made when we play Milligan at home.

Everyone enjoy the Holidays with family and friends, come back refreshed and ready to go to work.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 28, 2007, 07:47:11 am
I'm not worried about the record either. The record is just an outward sign of what is going on internally within this team. I agree--a loss to CN means nothing.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on December 31, 2007, 10:10:22 pm
PC looking good during the break, the upcoming emory game will tell a lot.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 02, 2008, 05:38:41 pm
scottiedoug / MCScotsfan:

We had a very talented team last year and came up short, and this year, just as talented, with more depth. Our defense is worse this year than last and scoring is a major issue. Is there light at the end of the tunnel?

We need a S-P-A-R-K-!!!!!! Something or Someone!!!!! A "WIN" would be a nice start!!!


Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 06, 2008, 07:00:16 am
Nice to get back on the winning track versus Milligan. Congrats to Asst. Coach Fowler on getting a win with Coach Pardue out. Natalie probably played her best game so far this season. Robin did a nice job off the bench. Defense is coming along. Shooting woes continue but they got to start falling sometime down the road. Alicia played all 40 mins again, hope she can hold up.

Alex dressed out in uniform for the first time. If all goes well in practice this week, hopefully she will get a few minutes versus Agnes scott.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 08, 2008, 10:08:08 am
Hope things go well for Alex! 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on January 08, 2008, 03:29:15 pm
PC lost a very exciting game in OT to Emory.  if PC can keep that much pressure and energy through the confr. games they will be tough to beat.  Turnovers still a problem
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 08, 2008, 10:49:53 pm
I hope all is well with Pardue's family. I know it must have been an emergency for him to miss that game.

I think Piedmont is always hard to beat.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 10, 2008, 08:02:52 am
I hope all is well with Pardue's family. I know it must have been an emergency for him to miss that game.

I think Piedmont is always hard to beat.

I believe he missed the game because of medical issues concerning his own health.

We will probably split with Piedmont in the regular season games. It will come down to winner take all in the tournament finals again this year, on Piedmonts home floor.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on January 10, 2008, 08:19:21 am
I agree, Maryville always plays extremely well at home.  I dont remember any confrence team getting a W in that gym.  A PC Maryville final will be a great basketball game.  I see PC protecting home court.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 10, 2008, 02:48:05 pm
I agree, Maryville always plays extremely well at home.  I dont remember any confrence team getting a W in that gym.  A PC Maryville final will be a great basketball game.  I see PC protecting home court.

Not slighting any of the other schools because anything could happen, but I would like to see that final as well. PC has home court advantage but MC has a ugly taste in their mouth and a bad memory of letting one get away last year in the final 2 minutes and not going to the NCAA tourney for the first time in the last 6/7 years. Should be interesting if both teams are healthy and playing well. MC at the buzzer!!!!  ;) 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 14, 2008, 04:15:40 pm
Do they put a clear plastic lid on the goals at Agnes Scott?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 14, 2008, 05:21:21 pm
Do they put a clear plastic lid on the goals at Agnes Scott?


Lids must have been over all the rims we played on all year. We shot it about as bad as we always do. Fact is right now, we are not a very good team. Too many things going on. No stability at the top which feeds down to the players. Some played like they could care less versus Agnes Scott. I guess what I don't get is, why not give those on the bench a chance. Lord knows they can't do no worse than the ones out there. We played 7 players last night. Asst. Coach said "key players fouling out hurt us". They didn't foul out until a min or less was left in the game and we were down  10+ and fouling on purpose. They had played the whole game and we still looked awful and losing.

Wow, hasn't the program took a nose dive since Dee left.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 15, 2008, 10:51:25 am
Sure seems like it.  There were four pretty good coaches in a row (Wes Moore, Kelli Casteel, Dean Walsh, Dee Brown) and we got used to it.  I have not seen enough to feel diagnostic but if you cannot hit shots, a lot of other things go wrong.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 15, 2008, 11:43:02 pm
I didn't think things could get any worse.....but it did......It was painful to watch...
38 turnovers, 38....... leading to 43 points......at one point in the first half, we turned it over 9 out of 12 possessions.....

Time for some changes but I doubt the Asst. Coach has the nerve to sit anyone.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 16, 2008, 07:55:39 am
Gotta Have Heart, if you know some girls on the team, tell them to step up. All of your negativity shows that you are part of the problem. The upperclassmen have provided so little leadership that any problem the women's team has can not be fixed until they are gone. Don't worry about the coaching, it is far better than the playing. I have never seen a team that has upperclassmen who were so immature as to let their junior/senior year go down the drain because they are unwilling to provide leadership for their teammates. Its not the push from behind, its the pull from within. And unfortunately, this Lady Scots team does not have the heart of their predecessors, regardless of who the coach is.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 16, 2008, 09:45:31 am
Big Dog:

I know most of the ladies on the team. I doubt me telling them to step up will carry much weight. But since you mentioned it, I HAVE already said to a few to play hard and hang in there, encouraging words, because I'm sure they don't enjoy losing or playing like they are. Fact is, they got to want it inside. In my opinion, some do, some don't. As far as my negativity, what am I suppose to say, great job on "only" having 38 turnovers, or "only" allowing a team to shoot 40%. Give me a break. Facts are facts. When they play well, I say they do. When they don't, I say that too. Also, if you think the coaching is far better than the playing, what games have you been watching. If the leadership and playing from the upper-classman is so bad, with no heart as you say, why don't the Coach / Coaches step up and sit them down, answer that, since you seem to be pro-Coach. It's not just the players or just the coach. It's a combination.

I would never say they don't have heart. You don't have tears in your eyes after losing if you don't have heart. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 16, 2008, 09:40:31 pm
Gotta Have Heart,

Hey, I am pro-Maryville College. I make no distinction between the coaches and players in my analysis. Hillary cried last week and went up in the polls, but not here. If crying made you a winner Terrell Owens would still be playing. Your men's team has had many newcomers be successful for a prolonged period of time because the upperclassmen have worked so hard, and the newcomers see Alex Bowers busting it and they get a dose of what it takes. Unfortunately, when upperclassmen are bad,whiners, threaten to quit in mid-year, or just plain ole  complainers, they breed a younger class of discontents and the lower expectations and disappointment that come with losing. Those tears come from the reality that my career is ending, and because I am not a strong enough, self sufficient enough individual with winning qualities that my teammates can emulate, they assimilate to my bad habits, attitude, and join me in tears of distress due to our ability to be less than we, as a team, are capable of. No excuses. Go play tomorrow night. Put a win streak together. But until then, this Lady Scots team, and its players, will go down as the worst team in the last 10 years, and you will find no argument there.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 16, 2008, 09:55:41 pm
Gotta Have Heart,

I went back and revisited your ongoing posts and saw  one where you said your daughter was on the team. One thing, you SHOULD NOT be posting on this board as your opinion is disruptive and only adds to the problems this team is having. Quit your complaining about people transferring and quitting and move on yourself, and take your parental evaluations of your daughter's team back to the 3rd-4th grade league of all-knowing hoops god parents. Maybe you should quit too!One vote for Gotta Have Heart to transfer! Hope the Agnes Scott game finds you at home instead of in the stands undermining a program. Pack your bags.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scotsfan23 on January 16, 2008, 10:52:57 pm
Hello all, I'm a newby to the d3hoops postings..but an avid reader. I decided to register and voice a few small opinions of my own. I hear and read a lot about the lady scots struggles this year and its fairly evident that its a tough year to say the least. This squad seems to have been in tailspin all year after seeing 11 new faces come on to start off with the recruiting class. If i have my numbers correct they've had 7 players quit on the old coach and had plenty of internal issues. (including upper classmen) They have assistants that have stepped into leadership roles quickly and there's no magic potion for the problems that started a long time ago. Its fundamentals and leadership on the floor from what i can tell. I hope they step it up against agnes scott and lagrange this weekend..i hope these lady scots can turn it around and finish strong!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 17, 2008, 06:49:02 am
Big Dog:

Yes, my daughter is a player on this team. I have never tried to hide that fact or hide behide any screen-name. Anything I say on here, I will say to anyone's face without hesitation. Why is that? All that I have said on here are based on facts which I observe after each game and not based on a lack of common basketball knowledge or speculation. Its very obvious to me you have no clue as to what is going on and that the players and coaches both, have been put in positions in which they deserve better. Tell you what, I want to see you tell the upperclassmen parents or anyone parents on this team, the players have no heart, and the team will be better when they are gone to their face, instead of hiding behide a screen name and trashing them here. Typical of a person with your attitude.

I take it you are a fair weather Pro-Maryville fan. I, as you, went back to previous posts from last year, and amazingly, you were no where to be found. Interesting since the same type discussions were being held by many who were or are still associated with Maryville. Most who have also posted this year. You have your own opinions on the team, certain players who you single out, coaches, and posters. Thankfully, because of freedom of speech, I also have that right to opinions, which I choose to express freely, without your permission needed. Hard to fix the problems if you first won't admit there are some, then address them.

You must be use to losing in whatever you do, running away hiding, putting your head in a hole, placing blame on a few, instead of dealing with the issues. Sorry, not in that run and hide group. Evidently, you have no competitive heart, as you have trashed the whole team, basically said give up, and label them as the worse team in the last 10 years. Being a fair weather pro-Maryville fan, I'm anxious to see how quickly you would change when they turn things around, maybe they win the conference and conference tournament, advance to the NCAA tournament, which are goals that can be accomplished, as long as they don't fall into your give up attitude ship. 

As far as the Agnes Scott game, it would be more beneficial to the progarm if you stay home. I'm sure you would not cheer for a team with no heart or the worse team in 10 years. You can sit on your hands at home.

As far me, I will be there cheering the team on. Feel free to say hi to my face at any time. Hoping they will right the ship. Giving encouragement to keep working hard, things can and will change for you, as long as you keep believing, don't blame anyone but yourself and stick together as a team. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 17, 2008, 08:40:43 am
Gotta Have Heart,

No one needs to tell anyone, parents or otherwise, this team doesn't have any heart, that will be proven out over time, and possibly again tonight when the Lady Scots play. I am not labeling them as the worst Maryville team in 10 years, THEY ARE! I am not labeling them as a team without leaders, THEY ARE! I am not labeling them as a team so stupid they would read the internet postings of one of their own teammates parents and think it matters, THEY ARE! I am not posting internet "opinions" after open gyms my daughter participates in, YOU ARE! This is college basketball, players come and go, and so do fans. This team does not need you undermining another coach, making your subtle substitution suggestions. As a Scots fan, I hope your daughter stays at the college. But As I said, this is college basketball, you are a fan WHO NEEDS TO GO! Also scotsfan23, thanks for your post. You almost mentioned the cliques this team has that are more important to them than winning. However, as you can see by the "observations" of gottahave heart, even this team has a parent trying to inject division through internet postings. As gottaheavehearts says "this team deserves better." I strongly DISAGREE. They are reaping what they sowed!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scotsfan23 on January 17, 2008, 09:51:06 am
well as much fun as it is reading these post of you two bickering :) haha...I've gotta say that the issues and problems this lady scots team seems to be having has two sides to it. The intel that i receive comes from a fairly reliable source and i can tell you they have been unhappy with their coaching situation for the previous two years. (well..since the great BELL left!) I truly believe last season was coat tail winning...dont you?? They seemed to let Reed, Uner, Dalton, Seal, and Saxe run the show and i'm sure that team would've gone further under Bell's tutilage!! That team was LOADED. The first move that was made this year was disrupting the team by putting..what..22..23 girls on this team?? WOW...being a player in my previous life..i can tell you that would frustrate the morale of any squad! So in my humble opinion..you have to not just blame the team for having problems..but also look where the leadership and problems have stemmed from the last few years. These ladies aren't on a winning path yet...but lets hope they find some unity in a very awkward and troubled situation...and find a way to win some games. And as for the coaching...a young assistant and an old loud guy running the bench...good luck! :) But i do hope the girls respond better to them than the ex coach! haha BEAT AGNES SCOTT!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 17, 2008, 09:58:08 am
If any Coach is weak enough to be influenced by anything anybody writes on here or any sport discussion board, they should resign immediately. (That should take care of your undermining coach ridiculous statement) I would certainly hope they are much stronger than that and have better leadership skills and more self confidence than to listen to discussion board talk. Thats funny! There would also be a whole lot of different line-ups, not just at Maryville, but all over the world, if coaches listened and took heart to lineup suggestions. Maybe if some of the players did read this, they would do a self check and say hey, maybe they right. I need to work harder.

Leadership issues! You got that right. But don't get it twisted, don't just skip right down to the players, start at the top. Funny how some will immediately blame kids first, thats the easy way out, but I forgot, you are not a adult just yet. Fundamentals issues, whose responsibility is that to make sure those are present and incorporated into their play? You think the players deserve to be in this position, interesting.

I like to win and yea, if things are not working, most rational people would look for solutions. If that mean lineup changes, so be it. I really don't see just continuing to lose for, whatever reasons, without looking for ways to improve. Players who give the best shot at winning should be on the floor. If some are not doing their job, give somebody else a chance. Sometimes that lights a fire.

If me believing in this team and sticking up for them continue to draw your fire, so be it. Continue to attack, I can take it. I believe they do have heart, I believe they want to win and they will turn things around. Time will tell!

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 17, 2008, 10:16:55 am
scotsfan23:

Obviously, I know about the issues you mention. There is much, much more also, which I wish I could go into, but its not my business. Some of your above mentioned issues, the players had no control over. Thats why I keep saying the players or asst. coaches "don't deserve" to be in the postions they have been forced into. Did they have the 3-point shot when he was coaching? Fowler will be okay, in time. He's just young , as you mentioned. He got a good feel for the game. Switching roles will be his biggest battle with the players. You right though. I am having fun with this person.  ;D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 17, 2008, 11:21:16 am
Who is Brian Fowler and where did he come from?  Pretty awkward situation but also a real opportunity to step up.  If what anybody posts here makes any difference to the team, that would be both too bad and a sign of some serious  focus problems. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scotsfan23 on January 17, 2008, 12:22:20 pm
I dont think the players or coaches should take anything to heart that we post...its just our outside opinions. We're not on the inside..at practice everyday or dealing with these internal situations. i just have to believe after watching this absolute drop off in MC lady scots basketball...that the biggest piece of the problem is gone! ...ahem... :) As for Fowler...I know the guy and he's been around this team since Bell's last season at MC. He assisted pardue last year and from what I understand the girls have always gotten along great with him. I do know he played at Maryville High school when Nelson was still there and Bell was the asst. there at the time. (hence the door opening to be a volunteer for bell) My intel tells me he's been running practice since pardue's departure and been the middle man between players and pardue for these 2 years. I'm givin' him a chance..he did have them ready to beat Milligan! Agnes scott i heard was a coaching nightmare because there was question as to who was coaching..him or wilson. Thats a mess! and as for oglethorpe...well no coach wins with the team commiting 38 TURNOVERS! I'm reserving judgement for now...afterall...the guy is working with what the old coach had in place. Lets just see how they respond and how they play for him. GOOD LUCK TONIGHT!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 17, 2008, 10:47:33 pm
Nice win for the ladies tonight. They played well.  Didn't look like the same team. Great job on the turnovers (14). Natalie played like the player she is. Saxe and Alison, great job inside. What I really noticed was not a lot of dribbling tonight on offense or against their press, which definitely cut down on our turnovers, and got us some easy baskets, beating their press by passing. Our spacing was also noticably much better. Fowler did a very nice job getting those two points across and executed in one day.

We got a chance to get a nice little win streak going over the next 3 games.
Way to step up Jrs and Srs.!!   

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scotsfan23 on January 17, 2008, 11:45:32 pm
well fantastic job on the win tonight ladies! the team looked so much better overall. Alot of points given up in the second half but just 14 allowed in the first...wow! They really looked like they came in with a game plan tonight. the box score showed 17 assists to 14 turnovers..thats a great stat. Great job Nat, Alison, and Saxe. KT really looked more aggressive and like she had that fire back tonight. Maybe she's better coming off the bench! Congrats to the lady scots...keep up the good work!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scotsfan23 on January 18, 2008, 08:50:32 am
So the newspaper is sayin that "an assistant from the mens team might come over and help"...?? Anybody have any info on that? didnt the girls just win last night...what do they feel like another coach will do? Word around the campfire is that the girls dont want another coach and have let that be known...and the athletic directors are doing it anyway!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: thisdogwillhunt on January 18, 2008, 09:27:06 am
If Coach Fowler is only a volunteer assistant then that would be the biggest reason for the move. The issue of liability and availability is also an issue that all colleges lookk at. I also believe it is very hard to question an athletic director that has the success of not only a coach but of having on of the nations most successful overall athletic programs in the country.
The girls may not want that but they need to accept it due to administrative decisions beyond their control.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 18, 2008, 10:00:09 am
I don't think Coach Fowler is a volunteer assistant, but I could be mistaken.

I doubt if AD/Coach Lambert is going to send Coach Wallace over, which means it would end up being one of the men's volunteer assistants.

I doubt it will happen, unless Coach Fowler asked for help or Coach Wilson is leaving since Pardue is gone. I have heard neither. The team looked good last night. As long as they are winning and improving, and there are no other issues, I would think it will stay as it is.

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 18, 2008, 10:27:17 am
I interpreted Randy's comments on the radio to be that losing a coach means that they could use more coaching help, not that some coach from the men's program was going to take over being in charge.  Coaches actually do things, you know, and there is a reason teams have more than one....

Nice article in the Daily Times:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20080118/SPORTS/602648821

It was clear at the game that Fowler and Wilson had done some work with sets and attitude adjusting.  The defensive intensity in the first half was really good and there was none of the purposeless dribbling against the zone we have had some of previously.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scotsfan23 on January 18, 2008, 11:04:58 am
Fowler is an assistant...he's not just volunteering. Wilson was a volunteer for pardue and dalton is also a volunteer and ex player. yes lambert has a fantastic history of success but my question is..why rock the boat more than it already has been? What these girls need is stability right now. I guess we'll see how they respond to it...but its my impression and intel that tells me the majority dont feel like they need another coach. Now if this assistant they wanna move over from the mens side is ready to take over the program then maybe i can understand that. He needs to get to know the team, the personalities, their system...but isnt Fowler the one thats going to have to teach him that anyway and get him up to speed? These points have been made to me and i serve them up to you as fodder.. :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 19, 2008, 01:30:31 pm
So, I leave town and Coach Pardue does too? Did he quit his job or is it health issues keeping him away? I see the Times says he has medical issues. I hope for him the best with whatever he is facing. I am sure it is serious because coaches don't step out mid-season, do they?

Wow. Some nasty opinions to GHH there "need to go" etc. GHH has never said anything but true common knowledge facts that I have ever read here. I think we both were very supportive of Coach P. when he came to MC. Having Coach Bell leave was devasting to the team. Our attitudes seemed way better than the girls' attitudes towards him. I know I was behind him 100% but there was a slippery slope to watch and we just kept going down, down, down. I know a lot more (as I am sure GHH does also) than I will ever say on these boards.

Watching players like Natalie has been tough on the fans. We know what she has in there and not to see it out on the court hurts to watch every game. Seeing Mel Uner "get away"-- and it will always be "get away" to me no matter what anyone says-- was tougher still.

I would not blame everything on the coaching but I'll lay part of the blame there. There is so much more to coaching than just knowing the game. Coaches have to know how to relate and communicate with their players. The women need to be able to do the same and have their heads in the game. I do not think it is a "heart in the right place" issue as much as a head game. Nope, crying does not win games, but those tears tell you they care they lost and probably say a little more than just that.
This team was thrown into an awkward position 2 years ago. It has been downhill since. Coach Bell had no paid assistant coaches that I am aware of.  It was all him. Lasdt year there he had Anna and Raul as assistants. I've always wondered why when they went after a new head coach they suddenly had some $ for an assistant too. Oh well, water under the bridge.

Best Wishes to Coach Pardue and his health. I hope he gets well soon. And Good Luck to the girls. I love them like their mine and I want nothing but the best for every one of them. I hope to see them fighting it out with Piedmont in Feb. in Piedmont.

Oh, and I'd be glad to call Coach Bell and invite him back if the need ever arises. I had issues with him sometimes as a coach but he seemed to do the job very well (recruitinjg, coaching and bringing out the best in the team).
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 19, 2008, 07:54:58 pm
I think we got a little something, something going on here! ;D :D

Another awesome job and a nice win. Wasn't able to attend but listen to it on the radio. The big 3 was at it again. Saxe put up a double double. Team 90% FT, only 9 turnovers..Team is heading in the right direction. Robin provided a spark again! Minutes are down for all the players which is definitely helping! 

Congrats to Coach Fowler. Keep it going. Got a week to get ready for Huntingdon and Spelman, before we go to Piedmont for a showdown for 1st place.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 20, 2008, 01:11:41 pm
It is awkward to think that the team is doing much better without someone (Coach) who is absent because of medical issues because it feels rather odd not to look forward to his health improving.  Life even in sportsfanville is complicated sometimes, just like real life....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on January 21, 2008, 12:11:51 am
whats up all...new voice here. I have been keeping up with the ladies this year to see how pardue's second year was going to go. Gotta say i wasnt very pleased early on...kinda like everyone else i'm sure. They just got 2 in a row though..so maybe its a good start to getting things back on track. What a crazy year tho right?? I wish Fowler the best of luck in dealing with this situation. It seems like he's doing the best he can and maybe he's got the girls inspired somehow..i guess we'll see over the next few weeks. (oh and btw...lets just say Fowler is part time and isnt making any killer money. MC didnt go out and hire a full time assistant after dee left) Anybody know how the girls feel about him and his coaching style??

Congrats to the girls on the two wins...11 assists to 9 turnovers is great...but the rebounding edge is scary...gotta get that on track soon. Good luck this weekend with Huntingdon!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on January 21, 2008, 02:37:46 pm
PC with a big win over Huntingdon... I'm glad to see they havent peaked yet.  53 rebounds was huge against a team that crashes the boards as hard a HC
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 21, 2008, 03:20:31 pm
It is awkward to think that the team is doing much better without someone (Coach) who is absent because of medical issues because it feels rather odd not to look forward to his health improving.  Life even in sportsfanville is complicated sometimes, just like real life....


I wish him a speedy and healthy recovery from what ever medical issues he's dealing with. IMHO, I don't think he will coach at Maryville anymore this year or in the future, no matter.

Looking at our team stats, if we could get one more person into double digits in rebounding and scoring on a consistent basis, we could really be tough to beat. I think the team will continue to see more zones played against them.

The ladies want to win and I believe they will play hard for anyone who gives them, not just Xs and Os to work with, but something that works if they execute correctly, that gives them an opportunity to win. Its a added bonus that Fowler had a great relationship with them from the start. I believe he also got their attention and more respect when he made the change with Saxe. Right now I would think he would be the leading candidate to take over. Depends on how the rest of the season goes and the AD assessment at the end of the year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 22, 2008, 11:32:01 am
I did not see the LaGrange game but did see Agnes Scott #2 and it seemed that the coaches did exactly what GHH says...give them something that worked for attacking the zone.  They also played better defense, esp. in the first half, and much of it was due to effort and hustle.  It will be a nice story if they finish strong.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on January 22, 2008, 12:16:17 pm
The lagrange game sounds like it was won in similar fashion to the A.S game at home. The big 3 underneath doing the bulk of the scoring and those hustling guards getting after people in a full ct press. Any talk about this Huntingdon game coming up? What's spellman got this season...anything better than previous years?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on January 22, 2008, 02:04:59 pm
Huntingdon rebounds very hard but not a great shooting team
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on January 22, 2008, 09:24:34 pm
lagrange, huntingdon, and agnes scott's programs look like they're on the rise. But Piedmont really looks like the strongest team overall right now. I want my lady scots to put it to 'em...any chance Fowler can have them ready for that challenge? The GSAC has really evened out over the last few years...wow!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on January 23, 2008, 01:32:35 pm
that is true, except for wesleyan, no one is a push over... thats the way it should be.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on January 23, 2008, 07:26:57 pm
yeah thats true...its more exciting to have a solid overall conference than one team dominating. I mean..i'd love to see those days come back around (being an MC fan) :) but they might have left town with bell. Guess the next 3 games for the ladies will show us alot. Good luck to the lady scots!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 23, 2008, 07:53:38 pm
mcscotsguy,

The good times didn't leave with Bell, as he has taken two consecutive 30 point beatings in his last two games after the thumpings he endured as a Head Coach at Reinhardt last year. Hope that the underclassmen at MC continue to get opportunity and MC builds for the future in the program, as Piedmont will nail down the conference championship and NCAA berth this year as the Scots find their identity, and that looks to be a second place (at best) finish. Hopefully recruiting will be easier as playing opportunities should be abundant and we can return to brighter days next season when we have  addition by subtraction.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 23, 2008, 09:25:41 pm

The good times didn't leave with Bell, as he has taken two consecutive 30 point beatings in his last two games

How in the world did Dee Bell lose to the #4 ranked Div I NAIA team in the nation? Then to top it off, he also lost to the 2005 and 2006 Div I NAIA National Champion, 2007 Final Four team, who are presently ranked #1 in the Nation, 17-0, with a average margin of victory, over those other 16 teams, of 24 points? Fire the guy...he's no good!!! ;D ;D 

On a serious note, Huntingdon will be a good test for us on the rebounding, but MC should pull away after awhile. Spelman should be a game for Fowler to maybe rest some players and give others some floor time. Next test should be Piedmont.....they should be rested.....they will be ready. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 24, 2008, 08:00:04 am
On Bell's record, I forgot to mention his convincing wins over Oakwood College. Won't be surprised if he is not available to head back to Maryville and  reestablishing himself after starting a bounce around mode.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 24, 2008, 09:13:28 am
Coach Bell can bounce back to MC any day in my book.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on January 25, 2008, 12:01:09 am
Or maybe Raul can jump from G-P head coach to the college game 8)

But on a more realistic note, do some comparison. Where is MC weakest offensively? At the guards. Strongest? post. Defenses focus on post no answer from outside to counter act that without moving one of those posts to the perimeter, which isnt a true win win.

I'm not knocking the wings and guards but compared to the talent level that has been there in the past its not a strong team by MC standard. Just looking the past two seasons, you had a very solid distributor at point in Reed, for a season there was a strong shooting and passing presence with Plemons, one of the best 3-point shooters in the nation with Dalton, one of the quickest 2 guards in the region with Uner. When dalton's touch slumped (perhaps from exhaustion) late last year MC was mortal even with Reed and Uner. I haven't seen guard play offensively that is on that level from this squad. Brown has some speed in transition but her decision making at full tilt isn't yet where it can be.

That said defense is improving but to play as aggressive as Wilson likes you need 1) the players o buy into that system, 2) a deep bench to absorb fouls and rest legs 3) that bench still able to carry some offensive load. e lack of outside presence trickles down into everything.

As for the assistant movement that comment came out before the teams went to LaGrange together. Maybe Lambert saw something that persuaded him to wait or take a different tack, maybe it was discussed and a verdict reached against, maybe RdL didn't want to mess with the men's team mojo in anyway with them rolling.

And I don't blame the women, (high school teams are girls, college - they are women wether everyone acts like it or not is a different story) for a lacking outside. As much as I like Dee Bell teams and like the guy personally he robbed East Tenn blind recruiting with scholarship money. Not only did he take some good players who might have gone MC's way (and probably would have if he'd been working them for his alma mater instead) from an area Reinhardt wasn't a factor in before but the trickle down from schools that really depend on the talent pool here probably cost Scots at least one very solid guard who got athletic money to go elsewhere.

Piedmont posters don't let the MC flavor run you off. You are a welcome addition to a thread that's been one side dominated too long and the less for it. Now if we can only find folks from the rest of the schools to show up more often with input.

PS BigDog If you take the time to read other conference boards, not only do you see parents posting quite often but in some cases athletic staff as well. Do your research before you start randomly slamming. Its a conversation, dysfunctional as it may be, not a brawl at the Bullpen.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 25, 2008, 12:40:11 pm
Hey, I'd take Raul. The girls had a great season with him helping. He's done an excellent job at G-P. In fact, I think when they were lookingat Pardue there were players hoping for Raul. of course, maybe they just wanted to stick with who they new at that point.

Since we've gone this far, what about Spencer? He's a cool person and great coach.
Maybe they'll be looking for a woman this time. If they could find another class act like Kandis Schram that would be a huge plus.

We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.

Looking forward to tommorow's game to see what they look like comapred to the last time I saw them play (which was 1st home game w/o Pardue).
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 25, 2008, 05:15:24 pm
Mel was a proven defender and scorer, and Dee got Alex for her ability to pressure the ball and shoot the 3. Losing Mel and with Alex not being completely healthy, definitely has hurt our depth, as well as our pressure defense ability and outside scoring.

I think Fowler deserves a shot. Things looking a whole lot better already. I'm anxious to see what we look like tomorrow after him having a whole week to work with the team.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 25, 2008, 08:32:13 pm
 ;D I'm with ya! If Brian Fowler can do the job, I'm with him all the way. I want whatever is best for the WOMEN (I've probably been the one calling them girl cause their so darn young.  ;) )

Go Lady Scots!! Beat Huntington!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 25, 2008, 10:29:25 pm
Batter Bard,

Thanks for your kind words. Saying you would take Raul helps eliminate your credibiity but your interest in standing up for an adult posting her opinions about coaches and their abilities is comparable to coaches posting their opinions regarding how pathetic and awful the Lady Scots and their lack of committment have allowed their program to become, because in reality you too believe that to be true, just like Gotta Have Heart. Maybe you will realize that building a program is more important than building a team, and sacrificing these last games and sitting the upperclassmen is the best way to return the program to its rightful owners, those who play hard and work hard. This board still acts as if coaching is the save all, and its not. These players aren't tough enough to overcome the cliques that make them so weak as a unit, and not mentally tough enough to overcome being exactly what they are, and that is just an average basketball team.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 26, 2008, 09:28:13 pm
Well, we got a ugly win. I was kind of disappointed in the way we played tonight after showing signs of improvement the last two games. 20 turnovers, gave up 26 offensive rebounds. Way too many coast to coast layups given up. Guard penetration still hurting us. Hearing "HELP" in the stands way too much. Dalton had a good shooting night. Katie did great on the boards as usual. Natalie played in spirts, ended up with nice numbers. I hope he rests Alison against Spelman, shouldn't need her and its obvious her back is a issue that can linger. We need her totally healthy. We have got to find a outside shooter. I think the word is out. They were triple teaming our posts at times tonight, just giving us the outside shot. Maybe Fowler should addition for a outside shooter, from the bench, (Robin, Alexis, Alex) against Spelman. Run some plays for outside shots only. I don't think it is going to do us much good to pound it inside, over and over and score at will, when the top teams in our conference that will test us, are not going to let us do that, we will be facing zones.

We will have to play better than we did tonight to beat Piedmont.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 26, 2008, 10:48:51 pm
Good analysis Gotta Have Heart,

We are an average basketball team. Dalton's shooting saved us from the lethargic and unspirited play. With Saxe shooting 40% from point blank pounding it inside, even against the teams that can't line up straight, and your assessment of Natalie playing in spirts, makes you wander if this team has packed it in and caved in to the general assessment from the stands that they as a group are much less than the sum of their parts. Don't buy into they have all of this talent, as a juco transfer bailed them out today and kept them from suffering an emabarassing defeat to another AVERAGE team. Maybe the losses mounting up under Pardue were a reflection that we were playing people a lot better than Spelman.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on January 26, 2008, 11:47:15 pm
Ok so seems like everybody thinks they know whats best for this lady scots team. Average by who's standards? By the standard that Bell set? Because we didnt win conference last year either...played an easier schedule and weren't called "average". Obviously the schedule has been tougher this season but even if the ladies are squeeking out wins...they're still 4-1 in conference. How bout giving some credit to the other programs No 26 offensive boards is bad to say the least...but our girls still found a way to win the game. And who cares who steps up to help lead us to a win...it doesnt have to be saxe or munday. Dalton played a great game and deserves credit for that. This team has been looking for outside presence all season and if memory serves me correctly, they have shot it better as of late than they did at any point this year.
(40+ % from 3 tonight)

As for "auditioning" for a 3 point shooter...why would it be a green freshman or an inexperienced sophomore?? This squad has needed leadership all year long..just hasnt found it yet. And anybody who says this team doesnt have any talent...well you just dont know talent. Chemistry is the word you're looking for there. This team is building after pardue's departure..but i'm in agreement they need some more work. No need to be upset about a 3 game win streak. Spelman wont be a push over...from what i understand they've played with the teams in this conference this year also. Lets reserve our judgement and see how this team handles peidmont. Congrats on the win ladies! keep it going!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 27, 2008, 03:10:05 am
mcscotsguy:

I have never said this team is just average. I have always stood up and will continue to stand up for them. I have always said we got major talent. Dalton played extremely well tonight, I mentioned her as well as others. We have not shot it better. Last 3 games going into tonight, we shot it at 38% to 27% to 25% from the 3-line. Thats declining. The 42% is misleading tonight because we shot 10% in the first half and 78% in the second half to get that 42%. I doubt we are going to shoot 78% very often.

I didn't say 3-point shooter, I said outside shooter. Personally, I think we shoot way too many 3s. Our posts can't score against triple teams and if teams are going to give us the outside shot, and they will continue to do that until we start making some shots, look at other options. Draper is a sophomore in class but a freshman on the floor. She hardly played any last year but got a opportunity this year and playing well. Maybe one of the people on the bench, if given the opportunity, could be that missing link, maybe one of them could make some shots, which would open up our posts and make us a much better team. Maybe, maybe not. Our turnovers tonight, mostly came from trying to feed the post against 3 defenders. We are a outside shooter away from being two to three notches better. I have not seen anyone on the floor not make any mistakes, no matter the class. It really shouldn't matter what class you are if you can play. Unfortunately for some, it does matter. Me, I want to win and if that means playing a "green" freshman or "inexperienced" sophomore, (Robin is a senior) or whatever, so be it. Might be surprised. I doubt either of the three I mentioned would shoot any worse than we already are or hurt us in other areas, to the point it would be just diastrous.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 27, 2008, 12:24:22 pm
Here is the Daily Times' take on the MC-Huntingdon game:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20080127/SPORTS/155281943

I thought the effort was there much of the game but execution was spotty.  A shooter from outside 12 feet would open things up. Opponents will make us beat them some way besides inside, for sure.  It couldn't hurt to use an easy game, if we ever have one, to see if somebody "new" can hit outside.  I agree it does not have to be three point shots...but it cannot be within 5 feet either.

If the players think they are getting better lately, that is a good sign, as they will play like it if they think it.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on January 27, 2008, 01:11:46 pm
Good write up on the Lady Scots! Sounds like everyone is on the same page and every time they interview the girls it seems like everyone has the same goal..winning the gsac. Thats good news! I hope they can keep pulling it together and show everyone what they're made of.

Gottahaveheart - I agree..they need an outside presence thats consistent. But this team has been lookin for that all year. The guards on this squad dont play the same game as guards we've seen at MC in the past. This team's strong point is the post play. Regardless of double teams..if post players get doubled they have to keep composure and look out to the opposite side and repost. This team can't expect to own games from the outside. Yeah it'd be fantastic to see a guard step into a penetrate and pull up jumper role but I've gotta believe that the coaches have been around this team enough to know who's capable of what. In a previous life I did some coaching and i knew my team better than anyone watching did. If certain players are sitting then chances are there is a reason. They might have the ability to shoot it a little, but they may struggle defensively on rotations, boxouts, or as was the case for me...they'd get nervous on the floor in games and forget responsibilities on defense or offense. I agree with you...let whoever can play..PLAY! :) But at the same time you've gotta trust the instincts of the coach to know what his team has. Hope they keep making strides in the right direction..we'll see how our offense looks against spelman and then talk bout peidmont.

**as for walker and rouvelas...my intel from MC is that walker is still leary on that knee in practices and isn't comfortable at all. Maybe its just taking some time for her to get back in the swing...afterall..she didnt even get to dress a game till oglethorpe...give her some time. Rouvelas has always looked like she has hidden talent and i'm guessin she's gonna have a great career at MC. She's the one i'd expect to get a shot at some PT. What do you guys think?? Oh...and should Fleming still be starting!??
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 27, 2008, 06:57:31 pm
How many "major talent" teams, playing a schedule comparable to our women, have a record comparable to what we are. We are average. Our talent may be above average but when we take the floor our collective sum is less than the individual parts. Cohesiveness, leadership bring this team down to a beatable level. Until that changes, or unless Beth Reed reappears to lead the Lady scots, this team will continue to be what they are, capable of losing t anyone (except Spelman) on any given night.

Go Scots! Get Better!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 27, 2008, 09:17:04 pm
mcscotsguy:

I agree with you on the inside outside game. But the games I have seen when our posts get double or triple teams, and we pass out and re-post, our turnovers go way up or we get so deep in the shot clock, we end up forcing a wild shot from inside against 2/3 people or forcing a long 3.   

Since you say you been in coaching, you should know:1) sometimes you have to give up something to gain something that maybe your team needs more, example now is Nat playing more on the perimeter than inside, because she has been our only descent outside shooter, we could really use her rebounding and she is almost unstoppable on the block, sacrificing rebounding for outside scoring; 2) if you got a player(s) with certain weaknesses, you can cover that person by doing other things, example, play zone instead of pressing man to man if they too slow to cover their areas. We do it all the time if a key player is in foul trouble, we go zone to protect them.

I just don't think 16 games into the season, we are going to have some magical turn-a-round all of a sudden on our shooting. I hope we do. I just think in order to beat Piedmont, we got to be more than one dimensional. I hope I'm wrong. I just think, if something is not working, you don't stay with the same plan, try something new. I'm not talking about moving anyone off the bench into the starting line-up, but I would give them an opportunity with 4 starters on the floor with them.

Alex is still having knee issues and I'm not sure how much or what she can or cannot do. I'm sure she is still leary, scared and lacking in confidence. I do know one thing for sure though, when she was healthy, she could stroke it with the best of them, a spot up shooter. Only way to find out is throw her in the fire and see. Alexis shows good form and seems to have a bright future ahead. Her future could be now if given an opportunity. Robin seems to always provide a spark in some manner whenever she gets to play. I would just like to see all three get an opportunity, if we get, like scottiedoug said, a "easy" game. Dee brought in Robin and Alex. I trust Dee's instincts on this one. Kind of like poker to me, I would like to see all my cards, if I got a weak hand, before I fold, I might have a couple of aces hidden in the hole! if I don't, I fold. Its not the end of the game, just the end of that hand. You a poker player.....?  ;D

Also, I might be giving Piedmont too much credit. We will see this Saturday.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 28, 2008, 01:04:30 am
It still seems to me Alicia needs to come out for a few minutes. Am I the only one who thinks that?
I thought Natalie looked more happy and more relaxed than I have seen her look on the court in a long time. Katie, not so much. You all might not agree but I many around me thought that Katie was almost invisible on Saturday. Maybe that was from the triple teaming...I don't know. I really want to see what some of those girls on the bench have got. I hope we get to see soon.

I really hope we can bring an excellent coach who will build this program. I watch the men play and it seems that most every guy that RDL coaches improves all throughout the season every single year. RDL takes a good player and makes them better and it is excitng to watch. I want that for these women also. Truly, I have not seen that happen too much. I realize the switching of coaches has a lot to do with it so I hope we get someone who will stay.

As far as shooters...we had one, Mel, and she's gone. I think we counted on Mel and weren't ready to lose her so we're suffering. If Alicia gets hurt, we'll be in the same spot there.
When Bo mason quit to go to Liberty, RDL had Jared primed and he has not let us down. Even with Eryk Watson being named GSAC player of the week, Jared is still starting and giving 100%. That (having 2 players who can get the job done) is just common sense and smart IMO. I think we need to do the same type of thing and see what these women have got. I would love a good surprise!

Go Lady Scots!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on January 28, 2008, 05:30:59 pm
IMHO The team hasn't found the pieces outside to be more than a contending GSAC team. They aren't the almost automatic shoe in to go undefeated or one loss through the conference anymore. Some of that is Piedmont continuing to get better and the general improvement and some of it MC.
That said, you look at the likely first round games for a the GSAC's AQ and there's little chance GSAC has anything more than one and done. For one reason or another MC hasn't kept up with the south region teams it used to have a competitive chance against in the upper midlevel and is farther from the top level it was closing in on when Bell left. Believing you will win and that you've done everything you need to win going into a game is a tremendous edge no matter the sport. MC doesn't appear to have that confidence anymore this season.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 30, 2008, 12:00:58 am
Well it looks from the box score like many people got to play some for the Scots...including the long-missed Alex!  How's the knee??
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on January 30, 2008, 12:16:31 am
Looked like they were showing some signs of coming together. First half was minimal defense but SC gets 11 at foul line, 12 from floor second half.

Draper may or may not be ready to play at Piedmont.

For all purposes if I just walked in to the gym and watched the game I would say it was first week of january MC game against a conf foe. Which means they are improving and getting there. Still a lot to get done by Sat to be a game but not as much as I thought last week.

What happened to the Piedmont posters?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on January 30, 2008, 12:42:48 am
Congrats ladies! hit the 10 win mark this year...thank goodness. :) 4 in a row is positive no matter who we've played. They continue to battle and find themselves as a team...we hope. Nice game from Harmon and Munday..and who's this Ashley Holder? Haha just kidding...nice addition to the game tho...good numbers. She outplayed Saxe! Do we have a 6 man contraversy brewing?? I'm def enjoying the numbers from the "wee guards" :) (brown/dalton) and Dalton in the starting line-up along with McConnell with Draper out. Fowler looks to be making changes and giving opportunities. Everyone got playing time even tho not everyone scored...but great job again and good luck saturday!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 30, 2008, 01:55:27 am
Well it looks from the box score like many people got to play some for the Scots...including the long-missed Alex!  How's the knee??

Congrats ladies on the win! Good luck Saturday versus Piedmont.

scottiedoug:

Thanks for asking. Unfortunately, Alex is either heading toward another surgery or not playing at all. The knee is still unstable and she is still experiencing alot of pain, which showed in the few minutes she played tonight. She is really disappointed and down in spirit after tonight.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on January 30, 2008, 08:42:33 am
Glad to hear they won. I was unable to attend. I would have liked to have seen so many get to play.

I hate to hear this about Alex's knee. I know she must really be very down. It is a loss (for the team and for her personally). May have to think of something to do to cheer her up a little...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on January 30, 2008, 10:29:44 am
Sorry to hear bout alex's pain in the knee...everyone was hoping to see her be able to get back to form. Anything is possible...its all a matter of being hard headed and work ethic. I havnt actually heard any opinions on the game last night...anybody there to see it?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 30, 2008, 11:29:13 am
DailyTimes article suggests that the coaches have been at work and that Fowler likes what is happening.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20080130/SPORTS/432246111/-1/sports

The news about Alex is lousy.  GHH, do y'all know what the problem is?

The news about Rachel is also lousy.  We'll need all the help we can get at Piedmont.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 30, 2008, 01:01:30 pm
scottiedoug:

I have taken her to 3 different doctors since she re-injured it this summer in open gym. We also have got 3 different opinions on whats causing the pain. The doctor who did the ACL surgery thinks she has retorn it. Another doctor is not sure, but says there is alot of movement which indicates a possible tear. Neither could tell definitely from a MRI recently done. Trainers and doctor at Maryville says her ACL feels fine, based on how it feels doing the Lachman test, maybe some cartilage damage combined with weak muscles, which is causing the slipping feeling, thats causing the pain. 

So honestly, we really don't know. She doesn't want to have ACL surgery again, she said that last night. The rehab strengthing treatment is not helping, her leg strength is there. Its her decision but I am real close to sitting her down until we find out exactly what is wrong. There's life after basketball. She says it doesn't hurt all the time, so shes asking me to let her stay with the team, practice, do and play what she can. I saw last night she can't play like it is, so she's probably out.

Going to at least have it scoped in the next week or so.

Thanks to everyone for the comments. I think she probably would appreciate a few words of encouragement, something, if you happen to run into her. She's very frustrated right now.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 30, 2008, 02:58:59 pm
GHH,

The reality of being injured is that if you can't help the team with your ability due to injury, PLEASE help it with attitude. Its tough to stay positive when you feel incapable of helping your teammates on the floor. Stay positive Alex and you can help your mates out even though you are just sitting. Sorry to hear about that but in sport you have injury, and dealing with the injury is as much of a learning venue in sport as playing. About the Lady Scots, if adversity doesn't bring you closer together you were never a team to begin with. These individuals have a few days to come together, or they will GET CLOBBERED on Saturday!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on January 30, 2008, 03:16:32 pm
 About the Lady Scots, if adversity doesn't bring you closer together you were never a team to begin with. These individuals have a few days to come together, or they will GET CLOBBERED on Saturday!
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Why do you insist on calling this team individuals?? Have you watched games recently..or read the articles? This TEAM is obviously making headway. Yeah they've apparently had their situations this year..but they look different the last few games than they have all year. Getting production from other areas and players getting chances...I'm impressed with the 4 game streak. Say what you want about their competition but the GSAC is as good as its ever been right now..other that GW...this conf. is evening out. I hope they clobber piedmont to shut up the doubters! Good luck ladies!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 31, 2008, 02:34:34 pm
Here is the link to the Daily Times' story today about Coach Fowler being named coach of the MC women's team for the rest of the year.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20080131/SPORTS/6357087/-1/sports
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on January 31, 2008, 04:34:05 pm
Check the folks pouting on the bench next time before you question how one who knows can call this collection of players individuals. To call them "team" would insist on a collective goal or unified purpose. These Lady Scots are WAY TOO SELFISH for that. However, Piedmont, unranked and justifiably so, may not be good enough to overcome this years group which is trying to become something they are not-a TEAM.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on January 31, 2008, 04:57:18 pm
I think Big Dog may possibly have had a point, say 3 weeks ago. But not from what I've seen lately.

I see one pulling away and the rest coming together. The bench noise is about a 110 degree turn as its much more positive and supportive. Its also more instructive sharing things to watch and do rather than just 'I had such and such number' on substitutions.

I see the team coming around and I think the news that he's going to be taking them the rest of the way regardless can only help that situation. Now if that's good enough for Saturday I don't know. Dalnton would have to have a big road game, and every post will have to maintain the presence inside for it to work.

Piedmont is scheduling better competition. Winning at Miss College isn't taking on the best of the ASC but at least its playing someone in the ASC. No they aren't top 25 worthy but as we've said before huge difference between NCAA south region rankings and top 25. I'd be surprised if the Lions weren't in that second tier for the south behind  McMurry, Howard Payne (and those two play tonight), and DePauw.
 
It was a much more accomplished MC team that last at Piedmont last season. Personally I think the extra days off without playing for the No. 1 seed in the conference are a burden rather than a blessing now that they are played on higher seeds floor rather than at tourney site.

Should be an interesting game. MC's coming around but Piedmont is obviously cruising after that 111-17 dismantling of Wesleyan. (who as I understand doesn't have a player on the roster this year who played high school ball).
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 31, 2008, 05:07:55 pm
Fowler might have a good chance to keep the job, unless Lambert opts for someone with more experience. If Fowler remains next year, I think he will go younger with his assistant and let Wilson go.

I have not seen any pouting on the bench lately. I have seen players react to being taken out, but if you a competitor, why would you not want to be on the floor, I can live with that. I doubt anyone is wishing anyone any bad luck when they are on the bench and others are on the floor. I believe these ladies like each other and want to win a whole lot more than you think Big Dog.

If we can keep it close going into the second half, we got a shot. What worries me about Piedmont is their guard penetration and offensive rebounds. Also, not sure how much good our press will do against them. I wouldn't want to give up too many easy baskets. I say, if we are not leading and its under 10 with 10 to go, we got a shot.

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2008, 07:06:58 pm
DePauw is in the Great Lakes in women's basketball. But Randolph-Macon will be in that top tier, I think, as would Oglethorpe before 11-3 in-region Piedmont.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on January 31, 2008, 10:04:26 pm
Should be a good game this saturday at PC.  The guard defense from piedmont has been very strong lately.  I hope the ladies are ready to rebound strong.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 01, 2008, 04:27:39 pm
I think the absence of Coach Pardue has brought this team together. I think they are becoming more of a team all the time. The Lady Scots are hardly a team I would ever call selfish. ::)

Go Lady Scots!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 01, 2008, 07:01:51 pm
Playing Piedmont is as close as this group wll get to seeing the NCAA tournament. Everyone who is around this team knows it is a me first squad. As I stated earlier, the upperclassmen have led this selfish charge and when they are gone the Lady Scots will have a better opportunity to be successful. They may win some cup cake games, but anytime this squad is asked to rally they look on the floor and they know they are overstocked with PHONIES! Dee Bell's recruits were overrecruited to come. Sure Plemons helped the cause before she went to wherever basketball mercenaries go when their eligibility runs out, but MC does not need overated Farragut and Maryville High School players to come and give half hearted effort and then complain about the program. Look in the mirror. The Lady Scots need better character and leadership, and I'm not talking about the coach. Piedmont is probably an above average team, and the Lady Scots have a chance. But this squad is calendar counting to see when this season ends, so they don't have to bear the responsibility of their poor performance. Wish I could be more optimistic, but this is easily one of the most disappointing character groups in recent MC history, all sports included. Win or lose, that is the case, and those who follow this group know it.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 01, 2008, 11:19:58 pm
Big Dog....What makes you think you are the foremost expert on the lady scots this year?? Do you work with the team? Are you there day in and day out watching practice, sitting on the sidelines at the games, in the locker room at pregame and halftimes? I mean where do you get off talkin crap about a team that everyone else believes has better morale now than they have all year? You think you could do it...step in and build the program to a national powerhouse...recruit better players than bell? You dont know nearly as much as you think you do...lets be honest.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 02, 2008, 07:54:24 am
mcscotsguy,

This program has never been a "national powerhouse." Check the retention rate of Bell (see Plemons) as well as the graduation rate. Morale my friend is one thing, CHARACTER is another. You don't object to a parent of a player posting, why object when someone questions the effort of this team. As far as the mission of Maryville College, I don't think it is to have a national powerhouse in any sport. As far as "lets be honest," I am, and because the truth hurts don't get all bent out of shape. A team that has better morale now "than they have all year" sums it up. You said that. Why has their morale improved so much. Let me tell you why. BECAUSE THE MORALE AND ATTITUDES WERE SO BAD TO BEGIN WITH! And that starts with the players. Hope the ladies play together at Piedmont.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 02, 2008, 04:16:30 pm
MC scots guy,

I may not be an expert, but at 7:54 Saturday morning I called this game. Called it on january 30th, but losing by ONLY 13 may not be clobbered. For all of you well wishers who think this Lady Scots group is not closing in on my pick as the worst Lady Scots team in recent memory, be real. If Jeanna Dalton wasn't inserted and given time, they would really be headed downstream. Thank goodness Pardue recruited her, as this new blood gives some hope. Before the game my Scottie friend MC Scots guy, they had the best morale they have had all year. Don't blame the coaching of anyone, this team has chosen cliques and peer groups more than winning. Once you go down that road, and our upperclassmen have led the charge, you assimilate others and bring them down to your level. Good job Fowler on hanging in with these malcontents. Sit them down and play for next year when we can right the ship. Piedmont 73-Individuals-60.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 02, 2008, 08:16:03 pm
You think Plemons shows anything about Bell's retention rate? My God, she's played all over the place--from here to there. Ever think maybe Bell did NOT want to keep her??  Coach Bell was a great recruiter for MC. I don't think Pardue was doing too badly himself.
I'll give you one thing, and it is true of many colleged aged kids these day (but certainly not all), they've been helicopter parented, micro-managed, spoiled and it can't be easy to coach these days. This problem will only get worse as the years pass.
Years ago coaches made hard, stiff rules and players followed them. These days you can't do that so easily.

If you think this team is not much of a "team" but individuals, why do you think that is? Leadership starts at the top and trickles down. Flem is not in the position to lead off the bench, Mel is gone and Saxe is too quiet to be the vocal leader and has always said so. So who is going to lead? The ballgirl?! You are right. We need leadership...from the top down. I hope we get it.

Today was the day we needed our three point shooter and Pardue let her go. Mel was probably the best women's player I've seen step on that court in recent years. She could make the shots and understood the game.

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 02, 2008, 08:30:28 pm
Leadership starts at the top and trickles down, and saying you are quiet and not a vocal leader is a cop out. Lead by example. See Alex Bowers. Go play. Quit that sorry from the top down making excuses whining for these players. If we had a better coach blah blah blah. No, if we had a better coach he wouldn't be here, he would work on his resume like Dee Bell and spend his time trying to get a job instead of worrying about taking Plemons for a few months. Blame Pardue for no one making threes. Blame Fowler for something. Blame Lambert for letting this mess go on. Grow up. These kids have not paid the price and now they are reaping what they sowed. They are what we all know them to be. Average players on a dysfunctional team. It is THEIR team, not these mamas who make coaching suggestions on a web site. You know it. I know it. And this team knows it.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 03, 2008, 12:12:46 am
well i'm tired of responding to the negativity that is "big dog". So..on with the show. The game tonight sounded like Maryville was playing a solid game until a quick stretch in the last 8 minutes where they let a few 3's get knocked down on them...and the lead ballooned to 10. Only down 1 at half...and on the box score they def shot more free throws than us..actually looks like the difference in the scoring. The big 3 posts are doing their jobs it seems but other than Dalton there really is no guard presence. Apparently Draper is still hampered by that hamstring which hopefully gets better soon...she's a solid player. Fleming's time is going down..but honestly I hadnt seen much production from her this year to account for Pardue starting her. Colleen is a hustler and athletic but can't seem to find it offensively..and they cant get Brown any looks from outside and she can't seem to knock down the free throws. What's the thoughts?? I almost feel like Fowler should look down at Rouvelas (the freshman) and just give her minutes and see what she does with them. Understandable to play your big girls against Piedmont..but come conference tourny..these ladies will need some outside scoring. One or Two solid shooters to extend a defense!! Anybody else on the bench that can do that and play the defensive end as well??

Sorry for the loss ladies...keep the heads up and make that the last one of the season!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 03, 2008, 10:56:24 am
MCSCOTSGUY,

Don't mistake honesty and  reality for your so-called negativity. We don't have good guard play and that is accentuated with average play in the post, and hence we are left to give great hustle, effort and heart. And that, my friend, is where this group is lacking. Don't worry about extending a defense when we throw it inside to 40% shooters. Bad shooting from 3 point range, mathematically, is better than throwing it into someone who can't score it from three feet. This season will soon end, and next year will bring about opportunity, a cleansing of sorts, and this program will move forward.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 03, 2008, 11:35:51 am
but here's the deal..i'm still into the season. You're just looking forward to the end...why? I mean they've beaten everyone in the coference except piedmont..and it was obvious in that game that they are very much capable of beating them too. It isn't the Dee Bell teams that blew out competition and ran the table in conference. I know these girls personally and the girls root for each other and they don't want to lose..they have heart. I dont know what you're looking for. I'll give you the lack of leadership with this squad tho...fleming and saxe havnt stepped into that role. (Letting mel go was a huuge mistake..but as i understand it..there was a lot to that story too) This was saxe's year and she didnt want to step into it. But from the conversations i've had with these players...this monster was created by pardue. Blame or no blame...if a team doesnt respect and want to play for their coach...the team isnt going to be a "team". So the lack of leadership came from the very top and had its trickle down effect. I personally like what Fowler has done just with the line up so far. He did somethin pardue never did..he changed it. Gave opportunities to the most efficient player (harmon), Dalton and Munday are playing their best ball of the year, Draper had a shot till she got hurt, and put the biggest whiner on the bench (saxe). That move alone had to gain him respect from his team. To be honest...the offense looks better after 3 weeks of pardue's absence than it has since the days of reed/dalton/seal! So give credit where credit is due and i can accept the harsh criticisms also.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 03, 2008, 12:51:41 pm
mcscotsguy,

Trust me, I'm with you. If they could pull together for ONE MONTH they can see the NCAA Tournament. ONE MONTH. Lets see if they can do it!

Go Lady Scots!

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 03, 2008, 01:36:59 pm
Take away the first 4 mins of the game, where we had 4 turnovers out of 7 possessions and fell behind 11 - 2 and a 3 min stretch late, where their guard made some shots and went on a 7 - 0 run, we played pretty good. Turnovers and 3-point shooting, our weekly discussion. We shot 58% from the field minus the 3-point shooting.

I would love to see somebody, anybody, step up and take on that shooter role. Glaring difference in that game was their guards making shots. Our inside game outplayed them and will do that to most teams. We get that shooter, we good to go. Fowler is doing a good job. He has given the team game plans, if executed, that gives them a good chance to win. It's not like we taking bad 3-point shots. We wide open, we just got to stick a few. Cut down on the turnovers, make a few shots and get somebody back, we be okay. I still say its us and them in the finals.

Losing Nat to start the second half hurt. She had caught a elbow to the head in the first half and there was concern of a possible concussion. I thought Ashley did a nice job while she was in and I like the spread and Dalton on the point.

Next game is a great opportunity, this late in the season, to rest some players who have been logging big minutes and those who have injuries ( Draper, Alison, Nat). Should get alot of open looks Monday, maybe someone will gain some confidence.     

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 03, 2008, 06:01:18 pm
glad all of us are on the same page now.

Gottahaveheart:

I'm with you on your opinions. Its been this story the whole year...solid inside game and no shooters. You know #20 had 23 that game and averages 7 per game on the year!? Who knew?? I got to looking closer at the stats and piedmont only scored 50 points from the field! 23 from the free throw line...we cut down on our fouls at home and I'll predict a blowout for MC! haha..bold huh? Fowler seems to be doing a solid job with these girls and their intensity in the games i've seen looks better and better. They play hard for him and their structure on offense looks a lot better. The 4 games prior to this piedmont game the girls did a great job with their assist to turnover ratio..i remember reading that in the paper and checked it for myself. These ladies are on the right track and like big dog says...ONE MONTH...pull together and look to win the gsac and its hello ncaa tourny! How exciting would that be for this new coach and this NEW team!?? Good luck ladies and play hard!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 03, 2008, 09:28:12 pm
Glad we all got on the same page. For a minute there I was thinking Katie Saxe was the cause of all this. ;) geez...

I'm hoping to see some women play Monday night who do not usually get to play. And I agree with with GHH, I'm hoping someone steps up, gains confidence and we have some sweet revenge in a few weeks.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 05, 2008, 09:58:35 am
Link to Daily Times article about Wesleyan-MC:

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20080205/SPORTS/866571392

GHH: Is Alex the long-lost outside threat?  What about the bum knee?

Coach agreed with whoever wanted him to play lots of people and see what happened.  Anybody see it?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 05, 2008, 10:13:44 am
That was a good game for the ladies to have. Just to lay back and have fun and shoot the ball. Everybody got equal time and most took advantage. I liked Rouvelas in that contest because she can play both ends of the floor it seems. And maybe she's got some scoring attributes they need from the guard spot. I kind of see why certain folks are sitting after seeing everyone on the floor for 10+ minutes last night. In certain players it seems like there isnt much "fire" to be on the floor....dumb fouls even against a team like wesleyn because of sloppy 'D'. Did anyone else notice that?? Walker shot it fairly well but she seemed a little slow from the speed i assumed she had...maybe the knee is still botherin her. I dont mean to be negative...how can ya be in a game like that!? Hope they are ready to play sewanee...i hear they're a pretty solid team. Good luck ladies and congrats on getting back in the W column!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 05, 2008, 01:42:04 pm
That was a good game for the ladies to have. Just to lay back and have fun and shoot the ball. Everybody got equal time and most took advantage. I liked Rouvelas in that contest because she can play both ends of the floor it seems. And maybe she's got some scoring attributes they need from the guard spot. I kind of see why certain folks are sitting after seeing everyone on the floor for 10+ minutes last night. In certain players it seems like there isnt much "fire" to be on the floor....dumb fouls even against a team like wesleyn because of sloppy 'D'. Did anyone else notice that?? Walker shot it fairly well but she seemed a little slow from the speed i assumed she had...maybe the knee is still botherin her. I dont mean to be negative...how can ya be in a game like that!? Hope they are ready to play sewanee...i hear they're a pretty solid team. Good luck ladies and congrats on getting back in the W column!

I hear you and agree with you. Except for Alex. Not that you were saying anything bad but since we do know her knee is still bothering her, I would assume that is why she was playing as slow as it seemed. Scottie Doug, I believe Alex has always been a good three point shooter. The knee injury took her out before we go to even see what she could do.

They looked like they were having a good time. Playing a struggling team like that cannot be easy. Often you rise to your opponents ability and there was not much there I give those Wesleyan girls credit...they were out there trying and kept trying even with a score like that. Game after game after game of that must be really hard to do.

I hope Coach Pardue is doing OK.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 05, 2008, 02:00:15 pm
scottiedoug:
Alex could be a asset on offense but a liability on defense. Her knee is still sore and it would effect her more on the defensive end than the offensive because she's basically a spot-up shooter. Could she help us....depends on how much she would hurt us on the defensive end. If the other team has a weaker player or we play zone, probably. Full court all out man to man press, I doubt her knee would hold up.

mcscotsguy:
Your comments were not negative. Her knee problems have affected her speed and lift on her shot. Not many come back from ACL surgery full speed the first year, even when healthy. Why is she playing? Because shes a competitor, a winner and she loves to play the game. I don't know if you ever played competitive sports, buts its mentally hard on her, having played ball from community center league all through high school, at least 6 years of AAU, and never miss a game because of injury. Now in college, she missed all of last year and not able to do what she knows shes capable of this year. She's decided to wait until after the season to get it scoped and fixed. I wish you could have seen her after the game last night. She was so happy and excited.

I appreciate your concerns.

Sewanee should be a good game, but we should prevail.   

NOTE: I would have like to seen us pull the full court press off alot earlier.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 05, 2008, 07:16:49 pm
GHH,
I am happy she was excited . They all looked happy out there to me! As their biggest fan who isn't a parent, I love seeing them like that...makes me happy too. :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on February 07, 2008, 09:35:28 am
Solid game from PC last night at ASC.  Its good to see others step up when the outside shot isnt falling.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 07, 2008, 10:26:55 am
Any comments regarding the Lady Scots game at Sewanee. Sewanee was tied for last place in the Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference and 8-12 overall. Was this performance one of the worst of the season, or just part of the ongoing inconsistency that has plaqued this team. Anyone who had the great misfortune to be on the hill and see this game, please post some thoughts.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 07, 2008, 01:00:00 pm
gottahaveheart:

You just sound like a pissed off parent of a player sittin the bench...am i right?? Knockin a young coach forced into a bad situation...is that what you're reduced to now?? From your prior posts i can only assume you're alex walker's parent and figure since she was a dee bell recruit she's gotta be the big answer to all the problems. We've seen whats on the bench...Fowler even started some of them against Wesleyn and THEY COULDNT SCORE! If you're such a genius...then go talk to RDL and take over the team...get somethin out of this group that Pardue couldnt get and Fowler is struggling to get now. They looked better for a few weeks and obviously when the water gets a little rough and the score is tight this team can't handle it. As for the coaching...I listened to the game and sounded like Holder/Rouvelas got some time and from the box score he's rotating 10 players in and out getting them equal minutes. Beyond Rouvelas' raw talent/athletic ability...there's nothing else on that bench! Harrell, Hooper, Walker = SOFT! Franklin can be a spark or a turnover/foul machine...so gamble if you want. Lee is short and out of shape 4 man that gives you nothing to have her on the floor. If you get to be so honest then so do I...and truth hurts! This squad looked as though they had new life after the coaching switch but quickly reverted back to their old ways. You talk about "popularity" in reference to Fowler's tactics but you would do nothing but take more of a beating using more bench. I've watched and know these girls too and the athletes and all the talent is being used!!

As for the horrible Sewanee game...i was told they looked beat from the tip. Like they had no life in them and I personally don't understand why that would be. The commentators even mentioned it. As for the box score...getting NO production from Draper/McConnell, very little from Fleming, combined 10 turnovers from your two point guards, and only 7pts from Munday in 23 minutes?? Pounded Sewanee on the boards but only 33% from the floor. Apparently these girls weren't taught how to beat a 2-3 zone!! This team is not in sync and in ALL honesty has NOT BEEN COACHED WELL in 2 years!! So before you start in on this new young coach because your mad your daughter isnt getting her PT...take a second and think about what you're saying. You and I and everyone else knows this has been a melting pot of trouble and turmoil for 2 years and the answer isn't magically going to appear from the inexperienced, underdeveloped bench players. The "problems" of this team are deeper than that and wont be fixed this season. I am looking forward to seeing someone clean house with this program and starting over!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 07, 2008, 01:26:08 pm
mcscotsguy:

I guess you been use to losing, maybe you enjoy it, or just don't know how to handle it. Just willing to sit back and accept it with your blinders on. Do me a favor, take a deep breath, reverse your last post and put what you said last first. LOL Can't do much worse than that with the bench or the cheerleading squad. Oh yea, before I forget, I have never tried to hide who I am on here, haven't seen you post your name yet!!!???? Its easy to hide behind a screen name!!!

Pissed off, yep, cause we losing to teams we don't have to. Anyone who understands basketball would agree. Since you felt the need to call out my daughter, let me set you straight, crystal clear. Believe me, if it was up to me, Alex would be totally shutdown, so I am not upset about her not playing. She has nothing to prove to anyone, especially you, someone who don't know anything about her or her abilities. If i had to trust a evaluation of her talent, I would definitely, without a moment of doubt, take Dee's over yours for sure. Her knee getting well is much more important to me than any basketball game, but she wants to continue, she feels she can give something. There's life after basketball. Now, you personally can take my comments anyway you want, I really don't care. Pay Alex's tuition then say something to me of importance and I might blink. Until then, you are just another hidden poster with little importance to me. Like I stated, parents who had players on the floor were saying why don't he give those on the bench an opportunity, and their ladies were playing.  What were their reasoning? You living in a dream world with blinders on, I'm dealing with reality. Soft, LOL....I don't even have to get into that discussion, the way we "dominate" people.

I'm not calling out any players, unlike you. Fact is, we losing games we shouldn't lose, no argument you present will change that fact. And also, just like you, I have a opinion that I will freely express, just like you, whenever, I please. You always have a excuse when we lose. Adversity, Pardue this, long trip, too much to eat....etc.....At some point either play or quit. Get over it. Fact is, there is nobody, in a head position, anywhere, in any profession that would continue to lose, without at least trying something else. What exactly do you have to lose? I'm sure you have a excuse for that too. The big different I see now is I'm looking at us a team...you looking at individual players.....I'm looking at what missing piece might be on the bench that would fit into and make more a complete puzzle. You say Lee is out of shape, but I've seen she will mix it up down low and maybe will get a few rebounds, in a 2 / 3 / 4 min span. Why not see? Robin is most athletic player on the team, maybe she can penetrate and kick. Harrell got a nice outside shot. I'm sure each one on the bench has something that we could use to improve. Why not see and give them a chance.

If you watch the games, FACT is there are players talking back, FACT is they are TELLING Fowler when they want to go back in the game. Those are facts. It has always amazed me that we can evalutate anyone's performance in the world, even the President, speak up, talk about, not much said, but coaches are off limit. Also, I never have understood why some players turnovers, missed shots, fouls,etc.....looks better in the scorebook than others. LOL Another dream world you in. Also, your talent evaluations are humorous at best, without much wisdom or knowledge I can tell. Why, because some of those players you spoke so highly of....also "struggle" against Wesleyan"...whats your excuse for that?  
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 07, 2008, 03:33:59 pm
gottahaveheart:

Spoke highly of?? Who did i speak highly of? Its obvious you get all of your intel from your daughter who tells you what she wants you to hear. i havnt made excuses for any loss...all of them sting just the same. The problem here is that you think you're smarter than anyone associated with this program. I dont believe I know better than Pardue or Fowler...or Wilson for that matter who should go in the game and who shouldnt. I've said before and will say again...from experience...the coaches see what the public does not see. I always hated getting questioned because I knew what was on my bench...all the people/parents in the stands did not know. (they only thought they did) Do you honestly believe you know the players he has better than he does?? Are you that arrogant? I hope Fowler does look to put those girls in the game and it gets worse just to shut you up. From past posts...you've doubted or trashed decisions made in losing efforts. But when they were on a 2 game win streak when pardue left you said "i think we might have somethin here". Its easy to question and disagree when things are on the rocks...and even easier to banwagon when things are going well. Good luck to the lady scots with getting this ship uprighted...regardless of the ignorant suggestions of parents with no clue.

ps- go ahead and voice your opinions -- they're fun to read
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 07, 2008, 04:25:40 pm
Again, you feel the need to call my daughter out. What was your name again? My discussions with my daughter "now" are 98% on the health of her knee. Fowler and players on the team, are not even a discussion between us when I can slow her down on her cell to talk. Being away from home, we have much more to talk about. You really reaching now! 

Maybe you just can't comprehend with blinders on. I'm trying my best to determine what the big difference is in "your" opinion of what we doing now is the best we can do versus "my" opinion of lets try something different just to see what happens. Both are just opinions and based on what two different set of eyes see. Only thing I have right now is the "fact" numbers of the results of "your" opinion and "mine" is pure speculation. I never said I knew more than anyone but not to even open your mind and eyes to other alternatives when things are not working as efficiently as you would like, suggest a my way no other way attitude, a tunnel vision, or simply just a close mind attitude, for whatever reasons.   

Fact is..."when we had a little something going" a change had been made that worked. Why are you so sure another one of some type might not produce the same results. I don't know, and neither do you, but I would like to see. Your attitude of wishing bad results for any players trying to help their team win, tells me you a "LOSER" from the start and you care less about the success of this team and more about you being right. Touch of class I must say.

I would only wish the best for the ladies no matter whose playing and if a change would elevate this team to a higher level of play, so be it. To me, its not about being right or wrong. Because the fact is, you never fail if you try, you just need to work harder. Failing is not trying.

P>S> I see your ...."from experience"....statement......and to that I say crystal clear ---- the main different between a head coach and assistant coach is one make suggestions and the other make decisions......LOL.... you comprehend that.....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 07, 2008, 04:35:24 pm
GHH,

Just like Norman Dale told Shooter in Hoosiers, "you are embarassing yourself...and your daughter."

Please stop now for all parties concerned. I speak now as the voice of reason on this board.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 07, 2008, 05:07:24 pm
GHH,

Just like Norman Dale told Shooter in Hoosiers, "you are embarassing yourself...and your daughter."

Please stop now for all parties concerned. I speak now as the voice of reason on this board.



Big Dog:

Thanks for the advice.

My daughter is fine and so am I. There is no embarassment in standing up for what you believe in. The embarassment would be to crawl in a hole and hide. But it has gone to another level when people start wishing bad things happen to other players just to prove a point, so I will heed your advice.
Its your fault.......LOL...you asked.....I had not posted at all.....LOL
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 07, 2008, 06:19:56 pm
Thanks GHH,

My blame I accept. Very disappointed all the ladies have had to suffer through this, but they must bear the responsibility as well. I think we are trying to be a little over protective of them and blame each other, parents,coaches, AD's, when the heart of the matter are those who play. No ill will certainly on my part, I will find you at a game as I too don't need to hide behind a screen name. Our girls need our support and it seems even those of us who support them have imploded. Post all you want if you like, knowing that the lack of respect those who follow this board have for you need not extend to your daughter.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 07, 2008, 07:45:58 pm
Wow! And I have bad karma. ::)

I don't think GHH is embarrassing anyone...not herself and not Alex. She's hoping for some wins from this team and we aren't getting them. I support Fowler and his stepping up in an awkward situation but she's right. When it isn't working, bench someone (or 2 or 3) and try someone else. What can it hurt?

Who treats their coach(es) this way? Who talks back? Nobody unless a coach allows it. That was a mistake I saw Pardue making with the girls. I think you have to make them respect you and I do not personally think they respected him. I think it was a mistake on his part because he is just a nice guy. But as a coach you have to let them know you mean business. It is embarassing to sit in the stands and watch things like were said to have happened at Sewanee. Let me tell you, I never saw anyone talking back to Dee Bell. I saw him throw people out of practices and saw him run them until I thought they'd throw up. If you made a mistake in a game, he pulled you--first time. He meant business and the women knew it.

I just do not see how you all are not seeing this from GHH POV. She isn't saying to play Alex (she knows Alex is really not up to her best with that knee) but she is saying to try someone else--if they can't do it, bench them. Of course, none of us know this team better than the coaches but when it is clearly not working, try something else.

I think we all thought it might be better when Pardue left and the women seemed more upbeat and ready to play. It looked like a turnaround of sorts. Yet, it doesn't sound like they wanted to even be out on Sewanee's court the other night playing ( "no rebounding, guarding etc." ) So, the problem is not solved, not by a long shot. Maybe they were glad Coach P. was gone and played better and then decided that with the real head coach out, they could tell Fowler how to play and play them. That won't work. Sounds like "too many chiefs and not enough indians" to me.

Give us a leader at the top, please.  That's the only way this will ever get better. Brian can either step up or else we need to find someone who will.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 07, 2008, 08:01:20 pm
Brian Fowler should be appreciated. As A Lady Scots fan, he gets high marks.
Crazy as it sounds, an NCAA berth can still happen. I believe the Lady Scots still have some Fighting Scots in them, (see Katie Saxe at Sewanee). Short season left, just some good karma and maybe a berth. It's all on the ladies.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 08, 2008, 11:28:19 am
MCScotsFan:

She...?  LOL

Big Dog:

I'm just expressing my opinion on what I see. Period. I support the ladies 100% no matter whose on the floor. I played college ball and I really just want them to experience the best rewards as possible. So many kids out therewould give anything to play college ball, at any level, play in a NCAA National Tournament, man, how much better can it get. Somebody said it will be one and done, maybe, but I bet every team out there would take that opportunity. I haven't heard of any 16 seed turning down a invite because they feel it might be one and done. 

Everybody would be totally shocked, I mean, KO'ed, knocked off your feet, if you knew, who "mcscotsguy" is. Then again, maybe not. I know some of you may know him / her better than me. On this matter, I'm following your suggestion and leaving it alone. Everybody has to live and be accountable for their own actions and words.

Good luck ladies Saturday against LaGrange. I still say us and Piedmont in the finals. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 08, 2008, 11:48:26 am
I agree with MCScots Fan that Big Dog has mischaracterized GHH's positions and postings, especially about Alex.  And everybody seems to agree that something different is needed and that that means from coaches and players.

I know way too little about the players and coaches to know what needs to happen, but I do know that no successful college team gets and stays that way without it being really clear that the coach in the final analysis is in charge.  In D1, it's easier because the players are being paid for their time and effort, but even in D3, where the players (and their parents) do the paying, the winning programs have strong coaching leadership.  If the Scots do not have that, I bet they will next year.  RDL is a good example of what it takes, and he will have to make some decisions.



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 08, 2008, 12:03:19 pm
GHH :
You got me fired up...I didnt personally "attack" your daughter...but you sounded like a parent who was upset that their daughter wasnt playing. I digress...

IF there is anything on the bench to use...then use it. However I still hold to my contention that there is no "magic" player on the bench that is going to change the outcome of a LaGrange/Piedmont/Agnes Scott or even Sewanee game. Its not "blinders"as it's been called..but I do understand the idea. I'm seriously doubting that any of the ladies, Fowler, Wilson, Parents, AD's, etc. are taking the losses like they're no big deal. Anyone who has ever put time and effort into any program, be it basketball/lacross/football/badmitton, knows that losses hurt. Sometimes it looks to me as though this squad needs to just play ANGRY! I'd like to see some absolute Fire under some tails for 40 minutes just once. Alas...I'm not sure that will happen if that mentality hasn't already been instilled in them from the beginning of the year. How much did we really expect Fowler to be able to change?? Not knocking the guy...he's stepped in admirably...but very little experience and a group of apparently (from what GHH says)..a bunch of "know it alls". If what GHH says is true...(being told when to put someone in off the bench)...then send that player to the last seat in the line and play those who will give 110% on the floor. You may get slaughtered but at least you will lose with absolute effort. Step up ladies...its now or never for this season!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 08, 2008, 02:06:52 pm
play in a NCAA National Tournament

There's no "NCAA Regional Tournament" so the national is redundant. Makes it sound like you are still in the NAIA. :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 08, 2008, 03:12:45 pm
play in a NCAA National Tournament

There's no "NCAA Regional Tournament" so the national is redundant. Makes it sound like you are still in the NAIA. :)

Pat, you scaring me with your intel. Actually I am still in NAIA somewhat. My spouse works in the athletic department of the #2 ranked womens team and #3 ranked mens team (they lost last night so they will drop) in NAIA, Lee University Flames.  Thanks for the tourney clarification.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 08, 2008, 03:29:22 pm
All who follow NAIA know how tough this week has been on Union University.
NAIA at one time was a highly respected organization and well represented by some of Tennessee's finest schools (Belmont, Lipscomb,Carson Newman).
One quick non-Scots question. Why do schools like Lee stay in NAIA, is it academic qualifications, because they do give financial assistance for athletics. Or would they run the risk of not being accepted into a D-2 conference like the one Carson Newman is in. Any bites.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 08, 2008, 03:43:37 pm
There are still parts of the country where the NAIA tradition and influence are strong, and that's in California, the southeast and the great plains.

Lee has enough sports to qualify for NCAA membership should it wish to pursue it. But many NAIA programs do not, and that's certainly a reason why some don't.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 08, 2008, 08:44:48 pm
MCScotsFan:

She...?  LOL



:o :-[ Sorry about that. For some reason I always thought you were Alex's mother not her father. Well there's no doubt from your posts you are a man who loves his daughter and that is always good to see.  :) Again, my apologies.

Looking forward to tomorrow's game and seeing what the ladies bring to the court.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 08, 2008, 09:05:07 pm
MCScotsfan:

No apology needed...... My wife smiled though  ;D ..... I think others might have thought that too, as there have been references to "mamas posting about their daughters"..... You right, I do love my daughter, with all my heart and soul, and its takes some doing to stay calm when someone attack her for no reason, using my opinion posts on a discussion board as open season, but forgiving is a trait I have grown to appreciate in my older years, keeps my blood pressure down and I get a whole lot more sleep. I have never been lobbying for playing time for her, as a matter of fact, if people would clearly read my posts, I say in each one she is not healthy. Truth is, the wife is why she is not totally shutdown as I mentioned in a earlier post. They out voted me 2/1. Alex is strong, confident and fine, believe me and so am I.

I'm just hoping this team get to where I still believe they can go.
Thanks for understanding!!!!


Anybody attend the game in LaGrange?
Looking at box stats, we played very well. Only 9 TO, 17-19 in FT. Saxe had a big game. Alison and Nat in double figures too. Stats look likes an advantage inside.
Looking at LaGrange stats, what stood out to me was their rebounding. Only one player in double digits in scoring and they didn't shoot the ball that well. They got any size or quickness?

Any insight from anyone

We need this win, as well as the next two, to make sure we lock up the 2 spot.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: sewanee tiger on February 09, 2008, 01:05:35 am
GottaHaveHeart,

Now that things have settled down a little bit, I thought I would throw my two cents into this discussion. Obviously I am not posting to comment on the situation at Maryville. That is none of my business. However, I can certainly voice my displeasure at your unfortunate choice of words on Thursday. I believe your comment was something about how you and four other parents could have beaten Sewanee? Not very nice. Even if you really feel this way, saying so in a public forum like this is very unfair to our girls. Please tell me that this was simply said out of frustration with the way things have been going for the Lady Scots this season.

Before I go any further, late me state for the record that I am not a Sewanee coach or the parent of a player. I am a Sewanee alum who lives in Knoxville and has close ties to our basketball programs. I come to several games at the Cooper Center each season, and not just because our two teams play each other every year. We also have quite a few common opponents, and I enjoy checking those teams out as well. I also read this board on a regular basis, so I am fairly familiar with Maryville's personnel.

I bring up personnel because I know that this is part of your frustration. The Lady Scots are definitely bigger, stronger and more athletic than our girls at every position. Of that there is no doubt. For the second season in a row, our team is very undersized. Maryville also has a deeper bench. I will admit that just looking at the two teams side by side would lead anyone to believe that we should be heavy underdogs.

That said, let's look at some recent history. In the last four seasons (counting this one), Sewanee has defeated the Lady Scots four out of the last six times they have played. Three of those wins came while Dee Bell was still the coach. If we go back a another year ('03-'04 when Maryville beat us twice), then the record is even at 4-4 (3-3 against Dee Bell). Not a bad rivalry, I would say.

Even though looking at scores against common opponents is not a very exact science, I should also point out that we only lost at Piedmont earlier this year by nine points (I believe Maryville lost to them by 11). Last year we beat Piedmont at our place, and we routinely beat Huntingdon, LaGrange and Spelman. My obvious point here is that we are not just an "opponent" that Maryville can expect to steamroll every time we play each other.

Again, none of this is meant to reflect on the Lady Scots. They have been dealt a tough hand this year. Even though I was elated by our victory on Wednedsay, I take no joy in what the Maryville kids are going through. Just trying to give some props to my Lady Tigers. When you are 8-12, any win is huge.  ;D

As for Maryville's game with LaGrange, let me offer this fact: when LaGrange came to Sewanee in November, we beat them by 16.  I say Maryville wins big on Saturday.




 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 09, 2008, 01:38:11 am
I apologize if I offended you or anyone else in any way and meant no disrespect toward your players or program. It was a bad choice of words spoke in a moment of pure frustration, which is still no excuse. Your players played hard and deserved the win without a doubt. I am man enough to acknowledge without hesitation when I make a mistake. Sometimes my competitive nature is not a good thing. I will delete that statement from my post immediately.

I wish your players and program continued success.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 09, 2008, 02:59:39 am
And to give an unbiased assessment, I saw Sewanee play U. Dallas on a neutral floor back in December and Sewanee is a reasonable team. Other than losing at Millsaps and Agnes Scott, I'm not surprised by any of the results on their schedule.

They're not the only team to lose at Agnes Scott, as I understand it, either.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 09, 2008, 10:32:54 am
Katie Saxe have a great game today!

Big Dog has spoken
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 09, 2008, 12:33:05 pm
SewaneeTiger makes a good point in that MC has had trouble beating Sewanee over the last few years, even when the Scots were having really good years.  That is why you actually have to play the games!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 09, 2008, 04:01:35 pm
I thought MC had a good game today. I liked seeing more people playing off the bench. I didn't notcie any disrespect going so that is a good thing. Of course, you all see it all differently as i just a fan of the team and enjoy the games while you all know the technical stuff.

GHH, Thanks for being such a class act. Oh and about your parents comment--I've actually uttered those words at my daughter's game out of frustration before. The games can be so frustrating to watch. And esp. this season. It has been mentally a hard season for anyone associated with MC ball.'

Thank God the men are cruising along and making it all look so easy.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 09, 2008, 10:08:49 pm
Totally different team today. Played like I know they are capable of all the time which is why it makes it so frustrating to watch sometimes, because I know the talent is there. Lots of energy right from the start. Everybody got to play. Lots of support noise from players not in the game from the bench which you like to see. IMHO, its the first game that it didn't seem to matter to anyone who was in the game. Whatever Fowler said and did the last two days to get them back on the right track, keep doing and saying it. Very nice and important win for the team.

 

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 10, 2008, 10:31:10 am
GHH,

The totally different team today was Lagrange. It had nothing to do with the Scots. Sewanee pummeled them by 16, remember. You celebrate beating Lagrange, Wesleyan, Spelman like some giant light has just been turned on. It hasn't, and whatever Fowler did the last two days in practice doesn't really matter, this game's outcome was decided when the schedule was made. Quit throwing in your everybody got to play. They should! The team we are playing can't see .500 from where they are. Important win. You have got to be kidding me. Important wins are beating good teams. Just support the Lady Scots and don't be such a phony and act like this game meant anything more than a chance to improve the w-l record. What got them back on track was playing a bad team. If we played bad teams all year you would be one happy guy, as we would always be on track. You just don't get it.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 10, 2008, 12:37:28 pm
wow...man big dog...takes a lot to satisfy you huh? Well i gotta say i understand both posts there. GHH...yeah the lady scots needed a win regardless of who it was against. The team did look more unified and I liked that starting line up! Rouvelas played well I thought. Actually I felt like the guard play all around was stronger...they didnt rely on the 3 bigs nearly as much as usual. There are positives to take out of that contest without a doubt. However...I do see Big Dog's point. It might not have been a "big win"...but it was a good win. I'm not sure there are bad ones. I hope they can take the next two and then take piedmont at home on the 23rd. That would be great momentum going into the gsac tournament.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 10, 2008, 03:36:37 pm
My "important" win statement is based on the fact that if we beat LaGrange (which we did and should have) and Huntingdon and Spelman, (which we should beat both)..we will lock in the #2 seed. I would say the #2 seed is important. Truth is, they did look better than against Sewanee. Truth is, the only half way good team in our conference, besides us, is Piedmont, so I don't know how you want us to beat any good teams if they are not left on our schedule to play. Yea, I remember we got beat by Sewanee, and I openly voiced my opinion and displeasure about that. I have always openly said I felt everybody should get an opportunity to play, so when it happens, yea, I'm going to mention it because I think it's a good thing. I realize we didn't beat UT.

As for your "phony" statement, you seem to fit the bill more than me. One minute you posting" if they can pull together for one month a NCAA berth is still there, you believe there is still some fight in the Lady Scots, good karma, our girls need our support." These are your posts! Yet now you critical of me because I compliment them on winning a game, regardless of who it was, they won. Be appreciative of that! They could have lost. They got to start somewhere. I think winning against whoever is better than losing.

I'm not fooling myself. I know / (doubt) we are not going to make the Final 4.....but I still say us and Piedmont in the finals. Locking in the 2 seed should guarantee a spot in the finals.  One game.....lets see what happens.....but first thing first.   

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 10, 2008, 04:57:32 pm
See, I agree with you, GHH and MCScotsguy. Those ladies needed a win yesterday. It was important--mostly to their minds I think. If they can have a few wins before PC comes to MC, then they'll be a heck of a lot better off.
I loved seeing everyone play. I alsothought Alexis did a good job yesterday.

I wouldn't be so sure it was what Fowler said to the women. That's all I'll say about that.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: sewanee tiger on February 10, 2008, 05:16:39 pm
GHH,
Thanks very much for your reponse yesterday to my post, and no harm done. I was certain that you didn't mean what you wrote. Knowing about the Lady Scots situation in general, and Alex in particular, I can understand the basis for your frustration.

As for Alex, let me offer up our junior point guard, Acacia Mack (#5), as encouragement. Acacia missed her entire freshman season due to a foot injury that required surgery. It then took most of her sophomore season to feel comfortable in a game situation. As a junior, she has been rock solid for us at the point (10 points last Wednesday). Hopefully Alex will have a similar junior season, and beyond.

Sounds like a good win for the Lady Scots yesterday. Wish I could say the same for us (61-77 loss at Oglethorpe).

Anyway, good luck with the rest of the season, especially against Piedmont.
 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 10, 2008, 07:23:14 pm
mcscots guy,

Never met a coach who had to tell a team they that they were playing a team that was-quite simply-not as good. No magic remedy between Sewannee game and Lagrange except for Lagrange has struggled mightily this year. Pull up their schedule and see the results. Not too impressive. Getting better is more important than racking up w's. Basketball is a tournament game and we can better evaluate improvement in the conference tourney-when it matters. Go Lady Scots! The only reason we secured a win is because, quite frankly, the opponent. They had more to do with it than we did. Were you guys not watching the same game I was?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 10, 2008, 08:29:35 pm
big dog...once again you have nothing positive to say. Here's the deal...everyone who posts on this board about the lady scots saw improvements in the lagrange game...well..except of course ..you. Maybe you're just too intelligent and intuitive to be posting with the likes of our simple minds. We must be absolutely inferior when it comes to our evaluations of the lady scots basketball team. You refuse to acknowledge that the ladies came out of the gate with more intensity and obvious togetherness than the majority of this season. You refuse to say that maybe..just maybe they are more of a team now than they have been up to this point. I'm curious...what do you qualify as successful...what do you believe would prove the worth of this team?? You think they have to beat piedmont? make it to the sweet 16? You aren't a "fan"...and don't try to prove that you are...we all know you arent. Fans are supportive, impart constructive criticism, and acknowledge when their team is making headway. You, my friend, are never happy with any win this team gets...but are more than happy to give your thoughts on how bad they are when they lose. (like it proves you right) They are in the conference they are in...they will have a chance to win the conference tournament..and if they do..regardless of their record..they will be as solid as any team MC has had in the past 3 years. That will Ruin your day i'm sure...but when they make the ncaa tourney...maybe we'll finally get a positive post from you.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 10, 2008, 10:31:18 pm
mcscots guy,

Never met a coach who had to tell a team they that they were playing a team that was-quite simply-not as good. 

You kidding us right? Have you ever heard one of the most used phrases in all of team sports during a coaches rioting act, during a timeout or at the half: " you playing down to your opponents level of play"

I would take that to mean you "simply better than them" but it's not showing because you playing "down" to their level of play. Thats as simple as it gets that your better, don't you think?

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 11, 2008, 11:25:21 am
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I wouldn't be so sure it was what Fowler said to the women. That's all I'll say about that.

You know something we don't know??
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 11, 2008, 02:16:12 pm
mcscotsguy,

Every dog has more intensity when the bone has some easy meat on it. We need the bone to say Piedmont and then have that same intensity. Maybe I am too cynical, but I too see the Lady Scots in the NCAA tourney if they can muster up some fight for the homestretch. I am a fan, the base word of fanatic, and to imply that I want too much from the Lady Scots is incorrect. You and the rest of the posters just can't want it worse than they do! Thanks for your insight.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 11, 2008, 03:03:33 pm
BigDog:  I know you are smarter than the rest of us, so help me understand what "You and the rest of the posters just can't want it worse than they do! " means.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 11, 2008, 05:47:07 pm
scottiedoug,

Thank you for the intellectual kudos comment. My comment is  kind of like being a parent, and you want whats best for your child, and they can't see it, or don't get it. Our collective group of posters are very committed to the Lady Scots success, and my question is, do we as mere posters and fans, WANT IT MORE THAN THE LADIES? I hope not, but when virtually all posters talk about this team in terms of coming out flat, or playing uninspired, the question does stand to bear mentioning. Please see GHH "totally different team" posts. He brought it up, so I just enlightened the rest of us to what he was really saying, that this team has yo-yo effort and tendencies. Everyone who has seen them play knows that, however I feel scorned for saying what should be the obvious in a season where the w's and l's reflect it.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 12, 2008, 12:15:09 am
Thanks, BD.  The next few weeks will tell the tail, woops, tale.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 12, 2008, 05:11:01 pm
scottiedoug,

Thanks for supporting the Lady Scots. Hopefully their success will mirror success to be had on Feb. 19th from 5-7 p.m.

Signed,


Big Dog
Claxton Fruit Cake Salesman
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 12, 2008, 11:05:01 pm
hey, bring some of the fruitcakes to the Piedmont game.  ;D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 13, 2008, 12:23:09 am
Good one, Big Dog.  Be there or be square.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 15, 2008, 03:38:28 pm
I wonder with Lambert stepping down as AD, what does that do as for as Fowler's chances at Head Coach next year. If Schram gets it, I know she was not that excited about him taking over when Pardue first left because of his lack of experience. She might look to bring somebody else in.

Any thoughts?

Take care of your business Saturday at Huntingdon.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 16, 2008, 12:00:34 am
I bet how well the team does in the next few weeks and whether Fowler seems to have any control over things and whether the returning players have strong feelings will be important, but RDL is AD until June.  The decision needs to be made way before that.  And for that matter, isn't Pardue still the coach?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 16, 2008, 07:50:06 pm
mcscotsguy,

This is in response to your e-mail where you so angrily attacked me after the Lagrange game. Here is a reminder of your words.

big dog...once again you have nothing positive to say. Here's the deal...everyone who posts on this board about the lady scots saw improvements in the lagrange game...well..except of course ..you. Maybe you're just too intelligent and intuitive to be posting with the likes of our simple minds. We must be absolutely inferior when it comes to our evaluations of the lady scots basketball team. You refuse to acknowledge that the ladies came out of the gate with more intensity and obvious togetherness than the majority of this season.

My response to you mcscotsguy, after today's game is you are correct. I am too intelligent and intuitive to be posting with the likes of your simple minds (save scottiedoug, husband of roadstopper).

However, that being said, The Lady Scots WILL win the conference tournament and go to the NCAA tournament. So let it be written, so let it be done. Big Dog has spoken.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 16, 2008, 08:18:58 pm
Unable to attend the game. What happened to our ladies? Nothing really stands out in the box score, 22 TO and 25% from 3-point is about the normal for us. No one in double digits in scoring was interesting. Box score had Amber Lee starting, is that a error? Draper only played 8 mins, was her hamstring acting up? Saxe 5 shots, Munday 4 shots all game, what's up with that? What kind of defense did Huntingdon play to accomplish that?

Anyone who was at the game or listened on the radio......any comments...
 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 16, 2008, 08:22:50 pm
I wonder with Lambert stepping down as AD, what does that do as for as Fowler's chances at Head Coach next year. If Schram gets it, I know she was not that excited about him taking over when Pardue first left because of his lack of experience. She might look to bring somebody else in.

Any thoughts?

Take care of your business Saturday at Huntingdon.   

My thoughts are this #1) Brian Fowler has too good of a job to leave for it for the pay MC offers a head coach.
#2) Fowler is just not right for this position....yet.

I think if Schram (if she becomes the AD) has the brains I think she has, she'd definitely think of bringing someone else in. It sounds to me like Pardue will be out for good. I hope he is doing better and getting well. Just as an aside, I think Schram would make an excellent AD. I wish we could find a ladies basketball coach just like her. She is a class act, knows her sport and is great with her team.

I did not go to Huntington but what a big loss for us. Sounds like we were either sht down or didn't show up.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 16, 2008, 08:34:31 pm
Would be very surprised if Schram winds up the AD. Strong movement afoot to bring in someone from the outside to inject new life into the department. Program going well, but untapped potential is enormous! Go Scots!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 17, 2008, 02:36:26 am


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My thoughts are this #1) Brian Fowler has too good of a job to leave for it for the pay MC offers a head coach.
#2) Fowler is just not right for this position....yet.

Whats he do for a job outside of working for the college?? (just curious as to what would keep an aspiring coach from jumping at an opportunity like working for MC)

And why do you feel as though Fowler couldn't  fill this position? After watching the freefall of lady scots basketball in the year that the previous coach has been there...I can't believe Fowler would do any worse.

Good luck to Schram on landing the job...she's definitely put in her time!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 17, 2008, 01:10:28 pm
mcscotsguy,

how was the bus ride home? 2:34 a.m. posts! Ouch!



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 17, 2008, 02:06:00 pm
I dont get the privalege of riding a comfortable bus big dog. But the drive home was quite long and tiring. Thank you for the concern.

Gottahaveheart:

The game was back and forth and the ladies could never get a cushion of a lead. Took the lead around the 5 min mark and let it slip after that. Some poor decisions down the stretch and just lack of offense kept them from pulling away. Checked the box score also and the ladies out rebounded them, shot poorly from the charity stripe, and not great from 3. Big 3 posts only had 14 combined points and amber lee did start..not a typo! Tough loss to a team (as a fan) you feel like you shouldn't lose to. Not sure why draper only had 8 min. Hopefully spelman can get them back on track leading into the biggy on saturday. Good luck Ladies!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 17, 2008, 02:13:28 pm


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My thoughts are this #1) Brian Fowler has too good of a job to leave for it for the pay MC offers a head coach.
#2) Fowler is just not right for this position....yet.

Whats he do for a job outside of working for the college?? (just curious as to what would keep an aspiring coach from jumping at an opportunity like working for MC)

And why do you feel as though Fowler couldn't  fill this position? After watching the freefall of lady scots basketball in the year that the previous coach has been there...I can't believe Fowler would do any worse.

Good luck to Schram on landing the job...she's definitely put in her time!

I cannot remember what Fowler does but he has a good job. And you might be right, he might want it bad enough to let the job go.

It isn't that I do not think Fowler is a good coach. I just do not think the time is right for him to be the coach. I still think that  Pardue had potential to do a great job with the ladies but he did not handle things right and then it was all down hill. He had a tough time starting for a few reasons. One reason being that the girls were at the top with Bell. His leaving was a shock to everyone and filling his shoes was tough. Looking at the last two seasons, that part will not be as hard for a new coach coming in. We may not be, but it feels as if we are on bottom.

It is not that Fowler would do worse. No, I do not think he would. I just do not think he can do "best". I think we need to look for experience and a certain personality to help this team get back to where it should be.

I think Coach Schram should get the job. MC has no idea what they have in her, I'm afraid. She's the whole package.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 17, 2008, 04:51:12 pm
Well I do understand what you mean there. From watching the girls since Pardue's departure I notice good things and there is certainly a better team unity. I like the changes in the starting line-ups as well. However maybe he is a little young for the position...and of course inexperienced. Neither being a fault of his own..just the product of circumstance. I do hope he stays with the ladies and the program! His enthusiasm on the sidelines is great and I hope he is able to continue to bring that to the team. Good luck to RDL and Schram on finding a replacement...looking forward to seeing the ladies get back on top with some 20+ win seasons!

Yes you're right...coach schram is certainly a great candidate for the AD job and personally I've always felt it is fair to hire for that type of position from within rather than look outside for it. She's earned it and should be looked at seriously to step into the position. Good luck coach!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 17, 2008, 06:17:05 pm
Scots fans,

Would be surprised if Schram is the AD.  I'm not saying it won't happen, but certainly the decision not to name her immediately shows the administration is not fully behind her as a candidate/replacement. That is an important decision and I respect the college spending these three months to research and interview other candidates. One question, how many other institutions would hire Schram for the AD position? Answer. Zero is the number right before one!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 17, 2008, 08:07:56 pm
Hmm...well, how do you know, Big Dog. Maybe it is Schram who is thinking this over. A lot to think about when you are also a coach. Look at RDL. He couldn't do the job alone and made Schram assistant AD. It could go both ways. Or there could be issues to work out about would she stay a coach or not. I do not see her leaving her team yet.

She's got a lot of NCAA knowledge and the like. She has what it takes.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 17, 2008, 08:59:15 pm
mcscotsguy,

how was the bus ride home? 2:34 a.m. posts! Ouch!

A loyal Lady Scots fan.....leave him alone.....LOL

Our posts took only 19 of 64 shots....Huntingdon must to have really packed it in.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 17, 2008, 09:36:11 pm
GottahaveNOheart,

Speaking of packing it in!

Loyal Lcots fan long before you came on board my friend.

Big Dog
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 17, 2008, 09:53:21 pm
We having a failure to communicate my friend.....

I was saying leave mcscotsguy alone, he was just a loyal Lady Scots fan to be on at 2:34 am.....

I know you been there...for awhile....."By the way"......I thought you were going to say hi in person....????

Don't start with the heart thing......
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 17, 2008, 10:59:42 pm
 ::)

I'd say BD was to embarrassed to "say hi".  Changing your screenname and saying "I've been a LSfan longer than you" reminds me of JR high.  :D

Not sure I understand why there is so much animosity between BD and GHH  ???

I could see if it was another school's fan but it is not. It is just so weird.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 17, 2008, 11:35:40 pm
::)
Not sure I understand why there is so much animosity between BD and GHH  ???


You got it wrong MCScotsFan....no animosity there that I know of......why you say that?
I don't have animosity toward anyone on here, for any reason. Everyone has their own opinion and freedom of speech about whatever topic is being discussed. I'm just glad this side has some activity. It was basically dead with a few posts. The men's side has 222 pages, the ladies, 36.......
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 18, 2008, 08:27:15 am
GHH,

Just to clear things up, I LOVE YOU. However, I still have been a Lady Scots fan far longer than most who inhabit this space, including MCScots fan. I go back to the days of Penny Head and Sara Covington, the greatest female player in Lady Scots history (see Wall of Fame). Look forward to meeting you at the Piedmont game.

Big Dog
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2008, 09:42:36 am
Surely other people are allowed to be Maryville fans, however, even though you have been one a long time. Right?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 18, 2008, 09:52:46 am



You got it wrong MCScotsFan....no animosity there that I know of......why you say that?
I don't have animosity toward anyone on here, for any reason. Everyone has their own opinion and freedom of speech about whatever topic is being discussed. I'm just glad this side has some activity. It was basically dead with a few posts. The men's side has 222 pages, the ladies, 36.......

Well, when reading these posts it looks like Big Dog attacks GHH to me. Changes his name from GHH to GHNH, stuff like that. Yet, to me, reading GHH's posts he just replies with such class and never get his feathers ruffled. It is just a bulletin board full of thoughts and opinions but still, those posts are just rude. Anyway, Big Dog says he loves you and it sounds like you'll have the pleasure of meeting him.
I also love the discussion but those sarcastic 'love pats" I could do w/o. JMHO.

Big Dog, It is nice to hear you've been an MC fan for a long time. Someday I hope to be able able to look back on my many years also. MC sports has provided us a lot of fun and entertainment. I wish Blount Countians came out and supported the Lady Scots and Scots.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 18, 2008, 10:55:53 am
I took the GHNH name change as their subtle way of saying our ladies have no heart, without coming right out and saying it after their loss at Huntingdon.  As you notice, right under that they said " Speaking of packing it in".....

The " I LOVE YOU " statement. I just felt they were still having a Valentine's Day hangover or maybe just wishing me a belated happy birthday wish.....LOL

I will ruff some feathers on my next statement though. Alex says her knee feels better now than it has all year, so I wish Fowler would give her a few minutes at the shooting guard position, see what she can or cannot do. Couldn't hurt....


Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 18, 2008, 11:18:25 am
 ;D Well, ruffle those feathers because if she's feeling better and the knee feels stronger than I am for her having a shot at some time! I hope she gets to show herself what she can do out on the court.

I'm for this team pullling it together. They have had a rough year (2) and they have not kept the attitude to help themselves. But they are young and I'm betting this experience helps them out in life after MC!

So, my b-day was the 12th. When was yours? ;)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 18, 2008, 12:20:08 pm
My birthday was Feb. 14.....Valentine's Day

My feelings about our team, until that final horn sounds, we still got a chance....the pieces are there....for some reason we just can't seem to make them fit....I'm not giving up....and hopefully the ladies will flip that switch and make a run.....
   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 18, 2008, 07:07:44 pm
Big Dog would never question a father who loves his daughter, however in retrospect  as far as being a fan, I must say "no I am not." I am a Fighting Scot, once a Fighting Scot, always a Fighting Scot. You ladies get your heads up and go play in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 19, 2008, 08:53:38 pm
Scottiedoug,

I missed you at the party but always good to see your wife. Maybe you were at a hoops game when the beautiful TDOT lady said "Southern Bypass" and a hush fell over the dancefloor. They spent the next 30 minutes picking up marbles out of the politicians mouths. I guess that is why IO love basketball so much. Lady scots, I saw you on Charter. You can do this. NCAA. Settle for nothing less. It is crunch time and we will be there to see you beat Piedmont.

Go Scots!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on February 22, 2008, 04:43:45 pm
Was anyone at Spelman? The word filtered back that the Jags last second shot probably should have counted and given them the win over MC but haven't heard from anyone who was actually there if that was so.

Piedmont is what No. 4 or 5 in south region rankings this week? I say that only because MC has to win the game to avoid the lowest regular season finish since  GSAC formed. If they are the 3 seed they host Spelman, a team they obviously have trouble matching up with, in a play-in game next week. I understand fan support but upsetting the top-seeded tourney host on their home floor is the only way to the NCAAS for MC and does anyone see that really happening?

The team does not seem as disjointed as some have indicated but nor do I see as much improvement as there should be at this point to make a run. It sounds more like a three steps forward then one back since Fowler took over. I don't think he keeps the head job 1) because the salary is too low to attract him away and 2) there's going to be a huge mess with recruiting that needs a seasoned hand to have any hopes of rectifying by the end of the semester. Don't rule out him returning to an asst role however.

10 to 1 nothing really moves forward on the AD opening until after basketball season ends. I seriously doubt RDL intended for the news to come out before the season was over. No idea why it did but guessing it was to put the official statement ahead of the gossip somewhere. So RDL probably hires the new head coach, if it's after his May 31 departure the program is in in serious recruiting trouble.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 22, 2008, 06:16:22 pm
batteredbard:

I was at the game and I hadn't commented because there was nothing to say. I was sitting besides Draper's dad and we both though the shot was good. I think everyone in the gym thought it was good. The ref waved it off. We won.

As echoed by our coach outside while loading the bus after the game, probably the worst game we played all year. I agree. I have supported these ladies and will continue, but this game was the first one, even to me, it looked like some didn't care one way or another. Effort was just not there for some. You could see the frustration in Fowler on the sidelines, shaking his head in disbelief, seems like on every possession. To top it off, Alison and Fowler got into a exchange early in the first half after he took her out and she didn't play the rest of the first half, which hurt big time. Alison did hit some big shots after she re-entered for the first time, probably about midway the second half, and Draper made some shots. 

There is no match up problem. There's a effort/desire problem. Second half, we scored 4 points (4 free-throws) in the first 8:05. Funny thing is, even when we scored our first basket with 11:55 to go, we still leading by 7.....because they had only scored 2 points in 8:05. Then we up by 10 with 1 min to go......no comment on the happenings in that last minute.
Their #13 hit 9/14  3s, finished with 29.

Everything has fallen into place as for as the seedings to our advantage. LaGrange beat Huntingdon so we don't have to go through that tie-breaking with Huntingdon, even if we lose Saturday. We going to be either #2 or #3....hosting the play-in game, and we wont see Piedmont until the finals. Then 1 game, for it all...if you can't get up for that.....   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 22, 2008, 07:24:53 pm
GHH,

Here is a brief synopsis from my post on Feb. 11th.

My comment is  kind of like being a parent, and you want whats best for your child, and they can't see it, or don't get it. Our collective group of posters are very committed to the Lady Scots success, and my question is, do we as mere posters and fans, WANT IT MORE THAN THE LADIES? I hope not, but when virtually all posters talk about this team in terms of coming out flat, or playing uninspired, the question does stand to bear mentioning. Please see GHH "totally different team" posts. He brought it up, so I just enlightened the rest of us to what he was really saying, that this team has yo-yo effort and tendencies. Everyone who has seen them play knows that, however I feel scorned for saying what should be the obvious in a season where the w's and l's reflect it.


Well, I hate to say I told you so, but this screwed up dysfuntional bunch has eclipsed even my lowest standards for them. And I Big Dog, still believe they will make the tourney.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 23, 2008, 10:49:41 am
Do we want it more than the ladies do?

Yes, I think we do!

I don't know what else to say...there are a hundred thoughts racing through my mind. I wish I could go in there and give the pep talk. I want a win today really badly.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 23, 2008, 06:48:28 pm
Ladies executed a nice game plan to attack Piedmont's zone, when we didn't turn it over (27)

Saxe and Alison, and even Robin, scored pretty easily inside when they had room to operate. What I wouldn't give for anybody to get semi-hot from the outside for the next 3 games.

Rematch in 1 week......

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 23, 2008, 07:10:40 pm
GHH,

After today I really believe we will make the tourney. Piedmont is just not that good.  Go SCOTS.

Big Dog
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 23, 2008, 08:25:12 pm
So close...

Next week, we'll do it!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 24, 2008, 11:03:47 am
IMHO...when this lady scots team takes the floor with the desire they seemed to have last night...they're a very solid team. The question has been raised as to whether or not the ladies want it...and I believe after last night the answer is undoubtedly YES! I hope they dont let this loss get them down because that was a ONE possession game...even though the score was a 4 point win. Keep those heads up ladies...this team can and I believe will WIN GSAC!


OH AND...HOW BOUT THOSE VOLS??!!  ;D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 24, 2008, 11:55:18 am
I was talking to a couple of Piedmont fans after the women's game and they are uneasy about whether they can beat the Scots again this year.  Piedmont has some good players and are well coached, but if we can shoot a little better outside ....   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 24, 2008, 02:40:23 pm
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After today I really believe we will make the tourney. Piedmont is just not that good.  Go SCOTS.



I'm not so sure that you can take credit away from Piedmont. They did go 11-0 in conference play and have beat some solid teams this season. I think that we saw a different lady scots team that was ready to get on the court and compete and play at that higher level. I'm not sure where the confidence came from after they almost gave away the Spelman game but however it comes to them I hope they keep it.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 24, 2008, 03:26:51 pm
I think they always win the game that comes after the ballgirl's b-day. She must have reminded them to at least try.  ;)
Or maybe it was for Coach Fowler's b-day.

Now they owe her (and him) about 3 wins in a row. ;D (Tues. ,Fri.?, Sat.)

Go Lady Scots!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 24, 2008, 06:58:02 pm
If we play against Spelman like we did against Piedmont, it wont be close.

Saxe, Nat, and Alison had big games last time we played Agnes Scott so I look for them to play more zone than man-to-man. We can play and beat Piedmont no doubt, but we will have to cut the turnovers down and shoot it a little better against their zone to beat them at their place. 

I wish Fowler would tap the bench one more time for a little help. Robin and Ashley have both played very well since he trusted, took a chance and has been playing them. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on February 25, 2008, 04:32:06 pm
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After today I really believe we will make the tourney. Piedmont is just not that good.  Go SCOTS.



I'm not so sure that you can take credit away from Piedmont. They did go 11-0 in conference play and have beat some solid teams this season. I think that we saw a different lady scots team that was ready to get on the court and compete and play at that higher level. I'm not sure where the confidence came from after they almost gave away the Spelman game but however it comes to them I hope they keep it.

Amen a perfect conference run 12-0. A 22-3 season with the only losses coming to SCAC's No. 25 Oglethorpe (21-4), an OT loss to UAA's  Emory (14-10) and a five-point decision to USA South's Methodist (18-7) during Thanksgiving that was avenged in Demorest by 10.

Playing Millsaps (7-18) and Mississippi College (15-10) might not have been powerhouse but I didn't see many GSAC schools willing to play anyone from the ASC. Maryville had McMurry in town for Thanksgiving Classic and played Greensboro and Birmingham Southern.

Piedmont is certainly a rising program and can now add the first win by a GSAC school at Maryville to its bonnet if Im not mistaken. Be interesting to see where they are in south region rankings this week. I believe they'll still have to win to get in but should MC do that its an upset by MC, which is something thats never been said in this conference before.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 26, 2008, 08:57:23 pm
I thought the ladies looked much better out there tonight. Spelman is so much better than in years past.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on February 26, 2008, 09:53:10 pm
Spelman isn't a team you want to take lightly anymore. It looked like the ladies remembered the close game at Spelman and had a chip on their shoulders. Good job controlling the boards and they actually shot it fairly well from 3 tonight. Solid job in my opinion. Good to see Munday playing to her level a little more tonight too. Anybody know if Agnes Scott took down Wesleyan tonight??  ;D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 26, 2008, 11:42:30 pm
Congratulations on the win tonight ladies!

I would like to give a special shout-out to Robin Franklin. I thought you handled yourself with so much "CLASS" tonight. A senior, playing her final home game, and even with us up by 25 with 7 minutes to go, with no signs of a chance of any comeback by Spelman, and after the Spelman Coach had already pulled some of his starters, to give his others ladies an opportunity to play, when our interim head coach did decide to start subbing, you, without any question or doubt, should have been the first person off that bench to enter the game. Even your team-mates were shaking their heads in disbelief as each sub before you were put in. Thats showing they respect you and they even understood the moment and what was happening. But even though you were the last one to enter, and even with all the memories and thoughts that I'm sure were going through your mind about it being your final home game, you continued to be the ultimate team-mate, by cheering on those who were on the floor. Believe me, other parents in the stands noticed, cheered loudly for you as you went in, and were expressing the same feelings, in disbelief, as I am now, so you have their ultimate respect also. Thanks....
 

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 27, 2008, 07:58:59 am
GHH,

Big Dog stands with you on that one. We need two wins-and two wins can be had. Robin, Katie, and Lauren let your last game be in the NCAA Tourney!

Big Dog is Barking C'mon Ladies
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 27, 2008, 01:16:57 pm
Our section was thinking about cheering "Robin, Robin, Robin!"
Did not know what he was waiting for  ???
I guess y'all noticed that Ashley didn't return into the game.

1:00pm Friday at Piedmont. I hope they are ready! Go Lady Scots!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on February 27, 2008, 02:16:06 pm
Laura Simmons was robbed.  How does she not get freshman of the year??
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 27, 2008, 03:40:17 pm
Laura Simmons was the best freshman I saw in the league this year....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on February 29, 2008, 08:18:08 pm
WIN IT LADY SCOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Big Dog on March 01, 2008, 10:14:26 pm
Way to go Lady Scots! Wow, this year should have taught you something about adversity. Katie Saxe played a great final game. Piedmont was the best team this year and they are to be congratulated, however our season was commendable based on the unusual surroundings of a coach leaving at mid-year and our squad not being the dominant force of past years. That being said, congrats on your efforts and much future success.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on March 03, 2008, 10:11:22 am
congrats Lady Lions!!!  Way to finish out a terrific season. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 03, 2008, 12:16:37 pm
Piedmont vs. Oglethorpe should be a good one.  Good luck GSAC!

I understand from Marcus's very good posting about the GSAC tournament on the D3Hoops home page that Coach Fowler does want to be considered for the Murvul job.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mcscotsguy on March 04, 2008, 02:42:40 pm
I'll be surprised if Piedmont can hang with Oglethorpe for 40 minutes. But good luck to the gsac representative!

I think the Lady Scots should be commended on fighting out this season. It was definitely tough on them no doubt. I personally felt as though they looked more solid down the stretch and trying to make that run for the championship. I wish they could have had that competitive spirit on the floor the whole year. Congrats on sticking it out and playing hard! Good luck to the men's team as well!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: younglion52 on March 17, 2008, 08:15:23 pm
With Oglethorpe in the final four, the PC loss is a little easier to swallow.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 19, 2008, 11:44:25 am
Link to MC coaching news:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=2400
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 19, 2008, 04:40:20 pm
And here is a newspaper article about Pardue's resignation:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20080319/SPORTS/281820468/-1/sports
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on March 20, 2008, 07:55:10 pm
Well, the comments seem pretty revealing but I'm staying away from that.

I wish him the best and hope he heals from all this. When he first arrived at MC he seemed much different than when he left MC. I hope he finds the ol' Jeff.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 25, 2008, 10:37:44 pm
Now that Schram has been named AD......any names being thrown around to replace Pardue as Head Coach? I read where Lambert said he hoped to have one in place before school is out. I figure the process might speed up now.

I would think Fowler's chances just went out the window, unless she has had a change of heart. She didn't want him to take over this year, citing lack of experience.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 26, 2008, 03:12:35 pm
All I know is that several junior college and high school coaches have expressed interest.  Randy Lambert (and Kandis Schram, I think) became head coaches without a lot of experience.... So did Pat Summitt.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 27, 2008, 09:32:05 am
I am fairly certain women's basketball has changed since the days when Pat Summitt got her first coaching job, hello?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 27, 2008, 05:45:15 pm
Pat:  You are welcome for the tip about Coach Schram getting the AD job.

How much experience is necessary to be a head women's bb coach in D3 these days?

The job description on the MC website does ask for quite a few skills besides X's and O's.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on March 27, 2008, 11:04:48 pm
I don't know, Doug, how much experience does it take to be a D-3 Men's basketball coach. Geez...
Not a comment I expected from such a classy poster such as yourself.

Times have changed in many professions Even just a college degree isn't a big deal nowadays. Now you need a Master's.

I think Brian could do a great job for MC but think we can find someone with more experience who can bring more to the program at this time. Nothing against Brian. He did a fantastic job holdoing the team together during a really rough season.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 28, 2008, 09:08:30 am
MCScotsFan:  You are right to chastise me for the way I put that question.  I really meant it as an open-ended question and not as a slam against anyone or a suggestion that coaching d3 is easy.  I will be more careful.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on March 28, 2008, 12:04:15 pm
As a woman, I am sensitive to both women's sports and D-3. Sorry that I could not just let the comment go. I'm sure I should have.

A few weeks ago I had a man make the comment to me, "Are we talking about "real" basketball or women's basketball?"
 :o   >:( 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 28, 2008, 11:50:22 pm
Some people equate dunking with basketball.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on March 29, 2008, 12:11:59 am
Well, maybe they do but since I've never dunked and will never be able to dunk, I don't think about dunking with basketball, LOL.

Actually, I think they ought to raise those goals for the men. I think they need more of a challenge. After all, middle school kids are playing on that same goal!
Watching D-1 ball tonight on TV was just dunk after dunk. I'd rather watch D-3 ball myself. I like the excitement of a dunk every once in a while. I'd be bored watching Hernandez, Orr and Co. having a dunkfest. JMHO.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on March 31, 2008, 08:07:27 am
They should have never let Dee Bell go! Coach Schram will make an excellent AD. I hope we find the right person and bring back the Ladies Program where it was before Pardue arrived. Dee and Coach Walsh did a great job builiding one of the Top 20 Ladies program in the country.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 07, 2008, 11:14:45 am
It is my understanding that some 70 people have applied for the Scots' women's bb coach job.  There ought to be some good candidates in a pool that large.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 15, 2008, 11:52:12 am
Maryville has narrowed to two finalists and is interviewing the second one today. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on April 16, 2008, 01:28:05 pm
Wow, that was fast. Or maybe just me. To narrow 70 people down to 2 that quickly would me (IMHO) that those 2 people really stood out among the crowd.

I hope they have a good representation from the team for this decision.

Any talk of Natalie staying for another year? Hoping so, this change could be just what they need to have a fantastic year. Too bad Katie, Lauren and Alex (are these the seniors?) last season was such a diaster in respect to the coaching and the team itself falling apart. Certainly a life lesson, of sorts for all of them.
What about Mel? Is she still able to play another year?
...yeah, some of us can't give up hope... ::)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 16, 2008, 10:18:41 pm
Real Fast!

Robin was the other senior. Alex will be a junior this upcoming year. Don't rush her back home that soon! :D ;D

Alex said Natalie has been going to open gym. Also she thinks they are suppose to make a decision by Friday on the coach. Said it was between the lady from Georgia and whomever the man that visited last.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 17, 2008, 10:51:06 am
MC interviewed by phone five of the 70 some candidates and chose two for face-to-face interviews.  Some players met the first interviewee and I assume also the second, since it would make no sense not to.  On the face of it, either of the two is quite "qualified" for the job.  They hope to decide this week.  Good thing, since there is still time to do some recruiting!!

It seems to me that hiring a woman also makes sense, if other qualifications are essentially the same.  There is a lot of role-modeling and mentoring involved in this work, as well as "coaching."
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on April 17, 2008, 10:54:14 pm
Robin! Of course! I was thinking it was your DD though (so I had that part right). For some reason I thought Alex's career at MC was cut very short due to her injury. Glad I am old and confused! Sounds like Alex is going to push through her pain and still play again this coming season. (I really hope she can do it!!!)

Hmm...Nat at open gym. I'm smiling here... ;D I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I want to see this team come together as a team and have a great season next year. We're ready to move on!

I'll probably be stopping by Cooper on friday. Maybe I'll hear some good news.
Whoever they hire, I am hoping he/she will take cotrol of this team and *whip* them into shape. They'll need to know who is the coach and who is a team member and work hard from there. I think they need someone who will be the coach. A woman would be great...maybe we could clone Kandis Schram (well, a Kandi who knows what a "real" ball is!!LOL)There is nobody I'd rather mentor my daughter than a smart, strong, logical, educated Kandi Schram. She is a wonderful coach. If our girls could get so lucky!!!

Thanks for the info, folks. I had no idea they were moving so quickly.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 17, 2008, 11:43:33 pm
Alex is not playing. She is just working out in the weight room with the team. She is scheduled for knee surgery on May 20. We are going to find out exactly what is wrong. Hopefully whatever is causing all the pain can be cleaned up. If its her ACL again, we praying its not, she probably won't be ready to play until late December or early January.

RDL said at the awards banquet tonight that Liz Campbell, presently an Assistant Coach at Oglethorpe University is their #1 choice and has been offered the job.

Todd Wright from Roane State Community College would probably be next in line if she turns it down.

Probably will get an announcement tomorrow, one way or another.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 17, 2008, 11:52:15 pm
GHH:  To the extent you wish to, please keep us posted about Alex's knee.  I really would like to see her play some ball.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 18, 2008, 02:03:34 pm
MC to announce new coach:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=2465 I can't imagine it is not Liz Campbell from Oglethorpe, since GHH says RDL said they had offered her the job yesterday.

She will come from a very successful few years at Oglethorpe and maybe liked being in the Final Four well enough to get back there as MC's coach.

I hope she has time and the opportunity to get to work really soon and recruit some people. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 18, 2008, 05:30:55 pm
MC to announce new coach:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=2465 I can't imagine it is not Liz Campbell from Oglethorpe, since GHH says RDL said they had offered her the job yesterday.

She will come from a very successful few years at Oglethorpe and maybe liked being in the Final Four well enough to get back there as MC's coach.

I hope she has time and the opportunity to get to work really soon and recruit some people. 


All I am at liberty to say at this time is "remember" I said "either" / "or". 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 18, 2008, 11:21:25 pm
GHH that was pretty much unclear!  Was there a hint in there?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Wydown Blvd. on April 19, 2008, 04:15:40 am
patience is a virtue....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 19, 2008, 06:15:42 am
GHH that was pretty much unclear!  Was there a hint in there?

"HINT" - Remember I said Liz Campbell or "Todd Wright"......keep that in mind.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 19, 2008, 10:31:36 am
GHH:  I slept on what you wrote and realized this morning that perhaps MC has scheduled an event to announce its new coach without knowing who it will be.  As a longtime Scot, I do not remember such an act of bravado.  These are Presbyterians!!  What if neither of the finalists takes the job?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on April 19, 2008, 10:41:43 am
Come on, Doug!  ;D Wake up... his hint was as clear as the nose on your face! LOL

I'm betting he'll make a great coach! I doubt they were scheduling the announcement w/o knowing who we picked and who picked us.

Here's to a brighter future season ahead.

GHH, I am sorry to hear about Alex's need for more surgery. Who is doing it? Someone here or someplace else. MC has several excellent Ortho doctors they use who truly care for these student athletes.
I will keep Alex in my thoughts and prayers as she goes through this once again. I know she is ready to be painfree and playing sooner than later.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 19, 2008, 11:04:12 am
OK so my wish for not another male coach, no matter how good,  for the women's team clouded up my brain.  Until women get hired to coach men, I think we should stop doing this.  No offense intended to the many great male coaches of women's teams, but I just think it is a strange practice.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 22, 2008, 05:21:23 pm
Well so much for the silly idea that women might coach women!  I just returned from Cooper Athletic Center where AD Schram introduced Todd Wright, head coach at Roane State and once head coach at Oliver Springs High, as Maryville's new women's basketball coach.  His teams have won a lot of games at both places.  Many of the team were there.

Nice young man, it seems.  I do not know why people think it is useful to publicly to "thank God" for "giving" them opportunities...reminds me of Coach Buzz Peterson, whose teams prayed a lot and went to Christian church (like nobody else plays basketball) but could not beat anybody.  I did not ask him if he would recruit agnostics but a reporter did ask if he understood the recruiting challenges where there are no "athletic" scholarships.  He said he did and that he has a strong recruiting base in this area and is ready to get started.

He prefers up and down the court basketball but claims he will learn what he has before deciding what style to offer next year.

Andy Landers used to coach women's basketball at Roane State, so there is hope!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on April 22, 2008, 10:21:26 pm
Luv ya, Doug! But we see things so differently, LOL.

In fact, the young lady next to me said that his opening statement meant a lot to her. :) I have nothing against agnostics or athiests even, but for a Presbyterian College to find a good Christian person is A-OK with me. I know Schram doesn't hide her beliefs either.

As long as the man isn't praying for wins and miracles, it is all good with me. He went to Lee University and it seems Lee turns out some very strong and maturing Christian people.  I saw it as a plus and I am sure he is thankful for this opportunity and probably does believe God helped open doors to bring him to MC. Nothing worng with publicly giving thanks. Let's just hope he isn't all talk in that department. A high percentage of MC campus is Christian from what I have been told and college years are usually very influential ones. Maybe this coach will give these young women something to take onto the court and off the court.

I would have liked to seen his reaction and heard the silence in that room if you had asked that question. *thud*  :D
Stefen's question had nothing to do with that topic but had everything to do exactly what the question was. I do know he had a big recrit at RSCC that was impressive to many. I'm hoping he'll be as good as Dee Bell at recruiting.

I hopethey do play fast paced ball. I like that better than the ol' style they played when Hayley and Michelle were playing. much slower (IMHO) but they could knock down the 3's. The game changed as soon they left. I think dee loved coaching that fast paced play!

I think more people than you know have been praying that the right man or woman be brought in. I am hoping that Todd Wright is the Right man for this job.
The women seem excited so far. I do believe Nat and Robin will return. I'm keeping my fingers crossed about Mel. That would be one awesome, heck of a surprise.

I think he'll like the fan base that MC women have. Not nearly as good as the men's, but I am sure it will be better than RSCC. I also think he will really enjoy having women for 4 years instead of just 2. That'll be a different deal for sure!

Seemed like a nice family. I am excited for the Lady Scots! They deserve a good, dedicated coach. I hope he'll walk in and show them who is the boss. (I personally think they need a little of that).

I look forward to seeing the articles in the Times and in Blount Today. I thought the press conference went well.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 23, 2008, 12:53:05 am
MC's press release:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=2473

I have absolutely nothing against MC's hiring a Christian coach.  MC strives to be a diverse institution that welcomes anyone who wants to be there and to live in a community based on Christian beliefs and ideas.  That often includes people who are not themselves Christians and I think they should be able to play varsity basketball (or study music) if they are good enough and not be made to either pretend or be excluded.  I just prefer Christians who are coaches (and athletes, for that matter) to act like it and not talk about it.  Chaplains and ministers and coaches and professors have different roles and are hired to do different things.  And I have no reason other than what he said to believe he will not be just fine on this score.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on April 23, 2008, 12:58:49 am
Todd is a graduate from Lee University, which is where my spouse is employed. The womens' coach, Marty, spoke highly of him and said he would do a good job. Said he would work the ladies hard and that he's a little hyper at times. I have no problem with him expressing his religious beliefs. I would much rather Alex be exposed to that, than all the mess that just left.

Scottiedoug / MCScotsFan:
Thanks for the well wishes for Alex. I will update as time goes on. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 23, 2008, 10:16:26 am
Nice article in the Daily Times:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20080423/SPORTS/507564601/-1/sports

It is good to read that the returning players had a very positive reaction to Coach Wright.  Let's hope they all have a good spring and summer and that he can bring in a few players, including some shooters.  I think there are five returning seniors so he is going to need to reload quickly.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on April 23, 2008, 12:17:06 pm
Todd is a graduate from Lee University, which is where my spouse is employed. The womens' coach, Marty, spoke highly of him and said he would do a good job. Said he would work the ladies hard and that he's a little hyper at times. I have no problem with him expressing his religious beliefs. I would much rather Alex be exposed to that, than all the mess that just left.

Scottiedoug / MCScotsFan:
Thanks for the well wishes for Alex. I will update as time goes on. 

I seem to remember Jeff "thanking God" also. I think Pardue started out very sincere but was not ready to be head coach of a women's team. Somewhere along the line he got screwed up and I hope he'll overcome his health problems and go on knowing that we all screw up in life.
Coach Wright seems to be very well grounded. He has been a head coach, seems grounded in marriage with 2 beautiful children. I truly think he can pull this team together.

Now my question is will Brian be an assistant? I'm hoping so. Although I felt like he wasn;t ready for this big job, I think he is a good coach who tried to pull this team together during a really hard time.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: IluvTNbball on April 24, 2008, 01:20:01 pm
I am new to this board, but very invested in MC and just happened to read up on the latest info about Coach Wright on this board.  I wanted to try and give an extra opinion since I am familiar with him and his style.  I think everyone is going to be pleased with Coach Wright!  He is a wonderful coach, and is type of bball play is very much what he mentioned in the press conference.  I do believe that he(Todd) is very grateful to God for the opportunity he has been given to make the step to the next level in coaching b/c he does love to coach.  All in all, most everyone will enjoy watching the girls after he has gotten his hands on them.  (As long as they are on board for what he has in store.)  I am very excited to see how he is going to help MC women's bball!  I am not all that experienced with some of the past few coaches, but I do know that Coach Wright is a very honest person, and can say that I have never really heard anything out of his mouth that he didn't back up.  That being said, coaching sports on the D3 level can change a person, but I sincerely look forward to a good 2008-09 season, with Coach Wright pleasing most of the eyes that have bball knowledge!  The season should definitely be exciting.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on April 24, 2008, 04:24:54 pm
Welcome, ILuvTNbball!

Thanks for that inside knowledge of Coach Wright. We're all wondering and I think even moreso because we feel like we got burned last time. If he is a good coach then I am all for the women to "get on board or get off".  I feel like this because the program has been hurt by the last 2 years. Now, if we have a person who can coach and has a plan, then let's do it. Leave your egos at home, ladies and play ball!!
I cannot stress to anyone what these ladies mean to me. It isn;t about b-ball for me. I luv them when they win and love them when they lose. I'm ready to win again, though! I just want to see them doing their best on the court and off the court. That is all I ask and I feel like the past 2 seasons they were not doing that.

Here's to a fresh start
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 24, 2008, 11:40:34 pm
I assume. Iluv, that you  really do not mean "most everyone will enjoy watching the girls after he has gotten his hands on them."  I mean he is a family man and a good Christian....

And welcome to the board!  We really are a nice bunch.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on April 25, 2008, 04:56:21 pm
Doug,   :D

Iluv probably means if people will show up at the beginning of the ladies game instead being early for the men's game and watching the ladies games from half-time on that they will, indeed, enjoy it!!

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: IluvTNbball on April 26, 2008, 03:07:35 pm
Umm, yes, I didn't mean "get his hands on them" in the literal since...he is a good Christian man.  (As far as I know anyway.) :) You all definitely got me started on the correct foot!  I will pay more attention to the way I write things! lol! 

You are very welcome for the insight on Coach Wright.  I do believe in him and his style of play...I do believe that things will turn around with the women's bball program, and I think that Coach Wright will make it fun for the girls again as well, he just has that charisma.  Don't get me wrong, he will work them hard on the court- as he well should- but from what I have seen, he does make bball fun to his players also.  I know that lots of people do not like watching women play, (not saying everyone, or that it is warranted to not like to watch women play bball) but maybe Coach Wright can bring a spark to the gym to get fans & students involved in the women's program again.  He has done it before, and if that gets people in the stands to acknowledge the talent that is on the floor, so be it...  Obviously I am a Coach Wright fan, and no, he is not a relative, I have just seen him at work.   :)  Plus, I am very familiar with MC, so I feel like he will fit perfect in the MC family.  That being said, everything I say is based on his history, I don't think that he will make a liar of me...

Thanks for the welcome to the board, and the reply comments!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on April 27, 2008, 09:11:50 pm
OK, I have picked myself up after reading your comment about 'some people not liking to watch women's b-ball". 

That concept is so foreign to me but as I told Doug a week or so ago, I have someone make a comment to me that women's b-ball was not "real" b-ball because their ball was smaller. I didn't dare tell him that the ball was a tab bit lighter also. I did, however, remind him that the goals were the same height.
In case no one has noticed, I'm super touchy about that stuff.  ;D
Of course, there was the man that told me he'd be more interested in women's b-ball if they'd get skimpier uniforms. Uh, yeah... right, Mr.  (What no puking smilie here??)

Anyway, I really hope he has a plan to bring people in to the games (of course, first priority is the team and their playing ball). I loved watching what Bruce Pearl did at UT. That was an amazing change!
I'm up for supporting Coach Wright and this team (of course, I have been for several years). If change comes for the fanbase, I hope to be part of it!

So, will you be able to attend ballgames, Iluv?  Just asking...  ;)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 27, 2008, 11:47:15 pm
Winning games helps a lot with attendance.  Let's hope that is how they begin!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: IluvTNbball on May 02, 2008, 04:32:29 pm
"Iluv" will be attending some games, hopefully lots of games...I am a bball lover, and a Scots fan.  And, the comment on women's bball wasn't meant to offend, just honest.  I definitely probably shouldn't get into this, :D... but, some do not like to watch women play ball.  Not that it makes it correct, that is just the way some are.  I think lots of times women's bball is more fun to watch when you notice the sheer talent that it does take to play ball as a lady.  Men have to have talent, don't get me wrong, but "most" women have to rely more on skill and getting back to the basic fundamentals to make it look better.  "MOST" men on the other hand can do fancier stuff that doesn't require as much skill, but looks pretty good!   ;D Hopefully the smiley face makes the conversation a little lighter!  Lol!  I love to play bball, and I really like to watch most all bball myself...just depends on what day it is.

Any news on the girls and Coach Wright?

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 02, 2008, 11:32:25 pm
If you begin with the idea that basketball is a team sport and not just a showground for individuals to show off moves and tricks, you get to appreciate good women's basketball.  If on the other hand you think dunking and swell one-on-one moves is basketball, you'll be happier most of the time watching something other than most women's teams.  All of it is entertaining but only some of it is basketball. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on May 13, 2008, 01:17:32 pm
"Iluv" will be attending some games, hopefully lots of games...I am a bball lover, and a Scots fan.  And, the comment on women's bball wasn't meant to offend, just honest.  I definitely probably shouldn't get into this, :D... but, some do not like to watch women play ball.  Not that it makes it correct, that is just the way some are.  I think lots of times women's bball is more fun to watch when you notice the sheer talent that it does take to play ball as a lady.  Men have to have talent, don't get me wrong, but "most" women have to rely more on skill and getting back to the basic fundamentals to make it look better.  "MOST" men on the other hand can do fancier stuff that doesn't require as much skill, but looks pretty good!   ;D Hopefully the smiley face makes the conversation a little lighter!  Lol!  I love to play bball, and I really like to watch most all bball myself...just depends on what day it is.

Any news on the girls and Coach Wright?



Ok, I'm lovin' this post. Thanks for that today.  ;D  BTW, Now, I'm gonna think of you as "Olive".  :D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on May 13, 2008, 01:26:20 pm
If you begin with the idea that basketball is a team sport and not just a showground for individuals to show off moves and tricks, you get to appreciate good women's basketball.  If on the other hand you think dunking and swell one-on-one moves is basketball, you'll be happier most of the time watching something other than most women's teams.  All of it is entertaining but only some of it is basketball. 

So where's that thumbs up smilie?  THAT's the kind of post and thought I have come to expect from Scottiedoug who is, to me, the voice of reason on these boards. In MHO, REAL men like watching women's b-ball and appreciate the athleticism they see.  ;) 

All I have heard so far is that positive and the ladies like him. Let's hope that'll continue. I heard Whitney Jones was at open gym. I do not know her too well but have always liked Whitney's personality (she's fun and crazy!) and think she could bring some good things to the team. Heard nat will come back and not graduate early. Still no word on Mel but I will keep hoping. Mel to me was the ultimate b-ball at MC that I ever watched. Dearly loved her style on the court. Other than that, no news. Just positive so far.

So, when's the season start???  ;D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 22, 2008, 09:19:47 pm
Just wanted to let everyone know Alex's surgery went fantastic this morning. She is at home resting and actually starts rehab tomorrow. Her ACL was not torn, but for some reason the last procedure left it too loose which was causing the slipping and pain. He also cleaned up some scar tissue and loose particles. We will investigate whether it was the procedure or something else later. Doctor said she should be ready by late November / December, full recovery pain free.  Keep her in your prayers. Thank you!

I think everyone will be very pleased with Todd, his work habits and style of play. I know him from: (1) his brother-in-law was an assistant boys coach at Walker Valley when Alex was there and (2) in 2004, he and I scrimmaged our 16U AAU girls teams against each other at Lee University, preparing for the 16U National Championship Tournament, when it was held in Chattanooga. We didn't play each other in the tournament but I watched some of his games and I believe we got a good one.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 23, 2008, 12:31:11 pm
I am glad of the good news about Alex and looking forward finally to seeing her play.  Should I infer that the recent surgery was done by someone different from the first one?

Thanks for the kind words, MC Scots Fan.  Sorry if you thought I had "slipped."
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on May 26, 2008, 11:31:38 am
Doug, I'm just giving you a hard time!  ;D I really like to read your posts. They are always level headed and knowledgable.
You seem like a real classy guy!

Second, I am so happy for Alex! I hope she heals quickly and the surgery was completely successful this time.  I will be keeping her my prayers. I am excited that she'll be back in the late fall/early winter. Also good to hear such positive things about the new coach.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 04, 2008, 11:57:18 am
Coach Wright has his first announced recruit and she seems to be a good one:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=2519
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on June 06, 2008, 07:37:07 pm
Sounds good!

I wonder how it is going?

GHH, how is Alex doing?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 07, 2008, 06:58:00 am
Alex is doing great! Rehab is right on schedule. Got most of her motion back and off both crutches. Her leg looks great, didn't lose alot of definition this time. Using a different rehab doctor also. He worked for the San Diego Padres for 10 years. Said he actually worked with Tony Gwenn after his knee surgeries. He's a lot more aggressive. Already got her on light weights and riding a stationary bike. Everthing this time is as different as day and night. She's in great spirits. We praying for all to continue to go well and for her to be ready by late November / early December.

Coach Wright and Fowler called to check on her. That made her feel good of course.

Thanks for asking! 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 10, 2008, 10:28:48 am
GHH:

Good news about Alex!

Should we assume Coach Fowler is still with the Scots?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on June 11, 2008, 09:27:52 am
That is absolutely wonderful news about Alex, GHH! Glad to hear it is going to opposite and so well for her! After a long tough road, she deserves some good news! I hope and pray that it will continue for her. I suppose you find out what you are made of when you go through things like this. As a parent, you must be pleased!

I'm hoping Coach Fowler is still with them. While I thought it wasn't "his time" to head coach the team, I think the world of him and know he would be nothing but an asset as Coach Wright is learning all about the girls. Fowler can help bridge that gap and keep something a little familiar for them.
Now, can I assume Yogi is not still with them?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 27, 2008, 11:32:28 pm
2008 - 2009 schedule is posted.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on June 29, 2008, 07:50:30 pm
Thanks, i needed that. I have 2 vacations to plan and want to avoid missing as many games as possible! Uh, yeah, I do that.  ;D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on July 16, 2008, 07:49:00 pm
MC Lady Scots ARE having a b-ball camp this year. I think that is a good thing for them as a team and for Coach Wright and the area.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on August 18, 2008, 04:04:05 pm
Coach Wright has added some interesting assistants!  I assume the woman from UT-C played for Wes Moore, who was the MC coach who really started the rise in MC women's basketball.

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=2560
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on September 12, 2008, 12:20:22 pm
Anybody out there know anything about how the Scots are doing this Fall?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on September 12, 2008, 08:33:04 pm
I haven't heard much. I'm hoping for a good season but, I also down deep, think that Coach Wright is going to have to wait until he starts over with his own recruits. I hope they prove me wrong--very wrong. I'm holding back...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bballlover on September 15, 2008, 11:30:01 am
Even with the loss of two of their best players Piedmont remains the favorite until someone knocks them off.I would love to hear what younglion52 has to say.By the way congratulations to Coach Childs-Purdy & husband Ben on the birth of Jalyn Charlsie August 26th.                                                                             
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on September 17, 2008, 03:39:34 pm
I haven't heard much. I'm hoping for a good season but, I also down deep, think that Coach Wright is going to have to wait until he starts over with his own recruits. I hope they prove me wrong--very wrong. I'm holding back...

So far, the same players (minus Saxe and Fleming) as last year + 2: the young lady from Seymour, Tara Heyboer and Alyse Ray from Gallatin, who I believe is also on the volleyball team.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on September 18, 2008, 01:07:46 pm
I assume the volleyball player is not playing basketball.  How about Heyboer?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 18, 2008, 09:36:46 am
Here is the DailyTimes on the new Scots.  Not good to have Harmon hurt but everybody sounds upbeat, at least in the newspaper!

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=2726
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2008, 04:51:59 pm
Rematch of the Piedmont Oglethorpe game tonight.  Audio and livestats on the front page.  :)

PC-OU 2008 Tourney game (http://www.piedmontlions.com/News/wbball/2008/3/7/03_07_08_wball.asp?path=wbball)

OU 78 Piedmont 53, 8:09 left in the game!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on November 19, 2008, 12:09:22 am
I hear team morale is up and better which sounds good to me. I know we lost to Transy and I hope that won't knock'em down. Nat had a good night (21 pts.) so I can't wait to see what we've got.

I hate to hear that about Harmon. I wish her the best in her healing process.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 19, 2008, 07:35:25 pm
Our ladies are fine.

They got a early taste of some home cooking.

I know everyone will enjoy watching them play.



 

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 19, 2008, 11:37:28 pm
So GottaHaveHeart:  I did not see Alex in the box score....

Is she ok?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 20, 2008, 10:19:53 am
So GottaHaveHeart:  I did not see Alex in the box score....

Is she ok?

Alex is probably ready to go.

She will be 6 months out the 22nd of this month. The doctor who performed her last surgery is being very cautious with her. Because of her having the 2 surgeries so close together, her quads have been slow regaining strength. She is running, shooting, doing some drills in practice. So far, no problem. She is scheduled to be totally released Dec. 19th. Plans are, she will work out a few days at full speed at Lee University during the Christmas break and if all goes well, she will begin practicing with the team when they return after the break.

Thanks for asking!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 20, 2008, 04:18:15 pm
Good luck to you and her.  Looks like we can use some shooters, as usual.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on November 21, 2008, 07:52:15 pm
I am ready to enjoy them again!!  ;D

So good to hear that Alex is doing well. I need more home games from both teams.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 22, 2008, 05:13:03 pm
Congrats to Coach Wright and the ladies on their first win of many to come this season!!!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on December 06, 2008, 06:55:54 pm
Although the ladies had to fight for this win after a lead or 10 or so after the half, I thought they did a very good job today. I was very, very proud of them. I thought they rebounded well and that made a huge difference in their game. In fact, they would have lost otherwise.
I thought their free throw percentages were great and that they sealed the win by making those shots.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 06, 2008, 11:11:43 pm
My first look at the Scots and I was surprised at how good they looked.  Compared to last year, they seem to have a much better idea what they are supposed to be doing and they are doing it...moving the ball, rebounding, hitting free throws, playing defense with a purpose.  Emory seemed like a pretty good team, too, which they must be if they beat Oglethorpe. 

And Piedmont is 0 and 5. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 20, 2008, 10:03:51 am
I would like to thank all of you for your prayers and support for Alex during her surgeries.

She was officially cleared and released to resume full time practice and play Friday. Doctor said her knee felt great and her strength is back to 90%. She was already during a few team drills. She's been running, shooting, working out at Lee during the break. She's looking forward to getting back. Hopefully, she will be able to contribute to the team soon. Keeping her under control and not rushing, pushing it too hard, for now, is going to be a issue. I've had to pull her in before her release, now its going to be even worse. Its probably going to be more of a mental battle now than a physical one.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 20, 2008, 03:50:35 pm
Good luck with that!  I look forward to seeing Alex play some basketball.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 04, 2009, 10:39:58 pm
It has been a long time since the Scots got whipped as bad as they did at Greensboro....anybody got any encouragement to offer?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 05, 2009, 05:11:27 pm
It has been a long time since the Scots got whipped as bad as they did at Greensboro....anybody got any encouragement to offer?

I didn't attend the game, but watched it on Greensboro streaming video online. We were still on Christmas and New Year break. Just one of those games you throw out as being a complete stinker from the start. We will have a tough game against Oglethorpe. Then it would not surprise me if we went 13-1 in our next 14 games, throwing in another stinker somewhere. We will be fine by tournament time.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 06, 2009, 12:08:07 am
I was hoping you'd say that....

A tough game with Oglethorpe may be a bit understated...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 07, 2009, 10:29:17 am
Maryville Daily Times has an article about the Scots' season and Coach Wright's challenges.  People getting hurt really messes things up.  At least, unlike the men's team, the women can get to the NCAA by winning the GSAC (even though it is a remarkably weak league in women's bb).

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090107/SPORTS/901079971
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 07, 2009, 10:29:14 pm
The ladies played well tonight.

They played #6 Oglethorpe pretty much even or better in every catagory except the 3-point shooting. Outscored 30 - 9. ( #10 was 6-14 ) That was the game.

Still got a few wrinkles to work out. Biggest one to me is handling the press, too much dribbling! Get those TO's under 20.

Keep working hard! Conference game Saturday vs Agnes Scott. They beat Piedmont by 11 tonight.
 


Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 08, 2009, 11:06:16 am
The Scots still need a shooter!  Good effort, though, although OU was able to shoot (and hit) from outside with no one bothering the shooter.  I agree about the dribbling. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 17, 2009, 09:08:52 pm
scottiedoug:

How the ladies look today? I wasn't able to attend. I see they won by 20, but was only up 7 with 5 minutes to play.

Observations?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 17, 2009, 10:29:17 pm
There was no Alex!

I thought played they well.  Good effort and ball movement and defensive intensity.  Not too much dribbling!  Heyboer had 12 points and 13 rebounds in 25 minutes!
A good shooter would be nice.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 18, 2009, 10:59:14 pm
The Scots do not play again until Saturday and that would give Alex a few more shots at full contact bb before getting thrown in the fray.   Scots looked pretty good today against a really quick team.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 19, 2009, 11:34:31 am
Here is the Daily Times coverage of the Rust game:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090119/SPORTS/301199970
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 21, 2009, 11:24:49 am
The Knoxville Sentinel, especially the ex-Daily Times Maryville College sports reporter. are doing a nice job with Scots basketball this year.  See this from yesterday:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jan/20/wright-way-for-lady-scots/
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 23, 2009, 03:19:31 pm
A win tomorrow would go along way in re-claiming the regular season championship for the Lady Scots and the #1 seed in GSAC tournament.

Play Hard!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 25, 2009, 06:30:02 pm
The Scots' win was not especially pretty, but it was a "W."  And we got to see a little bit of Alex!  Did the knee hold up afterward?

Here is the Daily times article:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090125/SPORTS/301259959
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 25, 2009, 11:46:13 pm
Outside shooting would be a nice new weapon.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 29, 2009, 11:34:13 am
GottaHaveHeart:

10 minutes and one shot from Alex.  Can't hit 'em if you don't shoot 'em!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 29, 2009, 07:45:44 pm
GottaHaveHeart:

10 minutes and one shot from Alex.  Can't hit 'em if you don't shoot 'em!

I thought she had a good 10 minutes. Coach got her in the game real early which I thought helped her relax. I thought she only passed up 1 open look as all the ladies stuck to the game plan. As you can see, we only shot 12 3's. I say there will be more opportunities Saturday vs Piedmont.

I actually was paying more attention to her on the defensive end, to see how she could guard and her quickness. I'm not worried about her shot, but if you can't stop anybody, might be hard to get minutes. I thought she guarded well.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 31, 2009, 10:10:45 am
Big game for the Scots today:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090131/SPORTS/301319981
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 01, 2009, 12:05:41 pm
Here is Marcus' piece in the Daily Times about the MC Piedmont game, which was fun to watch!  It will be interesting to see if the Scots can stay focused and win out and give the new coach and the seniors a shot at the NCAA.

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090201/SPORTS/302019962
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 01, 2009, 01:29:15 pm
Got a real, real great shot at it!
NCAA / Probably would draw Oglethorpe first round. That's who Piedmont got last year.

Non conference game vs Sewanee might be fun. Record not that great, but beat Agnes Scott by 39 (Scots beat them by 9); Beat Birmingham Southern by 3 (Scots lost by 5); Lost to Centre by 2 (Scots lost by 9).  Lost to Depauw by 13. Could be a stay focus game.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 04, 2009, 12:22:57 pm
Here is the Daily Times today on the Scots and Sewanee:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090204/SPORTS/302049976
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 04, 2009, 11:11:58 pm
I thought they looked good against Sewanee. That Tara ? from Seymour is a great addition to this team.
I still want to see them bond as a team more. They still seem to be fighting that. JMHO.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 05, 2009, 09:03:05 am
I thought we played better the second half. First half, give credit to Sewanee, we didn't look that good.

Tara has been doing a great job all year. 

Basically a 3 game lead with 6 games to go for Conference title and #1 seed. ( 4 road / 2 home )
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 05, 2009, 11:20:58 am
Nice to see #5 stroke a 3!  Tara is going to be a force to be reckoned with.  If coach can bring in more like her, replacing all those seniors will be fun to see.  If they keep playing like they did in the second half, people should want to come to MC and play basketball!


Here is Marcus' story in the Daily Times:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090205/SPORTS/302059975
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GSAC Killer on February 06, 2009, 12:42:32 am
 I believe the Lady Scots are headed in the right direction under Coach Wright. They are way better than last years' team. More disciplined. Do I think they can make some noise in the NCAA tournament, no way. Not deep enough. Guard play is erratic and Natalie is not the player she was when we had her as a freshman.

I believe they can win the GSAC which gets them an Automatic but its one and done! Not a bad thing to start off the program for Coach Wright though. Hope they continue to get better and maybe he can bring in some better players in next year. The reason Dee Bell was so successful he was able to have 10 girls who could contribute on any given night.

Coach Wright keep up the good work.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 08, 2009, 07:20:50 pm
Nice win for the ladies....shot the ball great from 3-point (8-14) and just overall a great shooting night. Can lock up regular season conference title / #1 seed in conference tournament with a win Monday night versus Agnes Scott.

 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 10, 2009, 11:47:34 am
Daily Times on Scots and Agnes Scott:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090210/SPORTS/302109970
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 19, 2009, 05:21:39 pm
I agree with the coach's and reporter's assessment of the Scots against Spellman.  But they have their fate in their own hands.

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090219/SPORTS/302199980
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 20, 2009, 07:19:27 pm
I agree it wasn't our best effort, but wonder about the shooting comments.

41% from the field last 2 games, 44% last 3

35% from 3-point last 2 games, 36% last 3

65% FT's last 2 games, 72% last 3.

Not on fire, fire, but not cold, cold either.



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 25, 2009, 12:17:19 am
I wish the Lady Scots the best during the tourney. It has been a tough season to watch as a fan. They just look sloppy. Sorry to say it, but it is JMO.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 25, 2009, 09:30:32 am
I think what you see is a combination of things. A new coach with a new system, a team where the talent level is almost equal across the bench, with no real super stars, just about anybody on the team could start and you wouldn't lose alot, his sub pattern which allows alot of kids to play but nobody gets use to playing with anyone. Its like one group can't get any continuity going.

But as the old saying goes: "I would rather win ugly, than lose pretty".
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 25, 2009, 06:46:18 pm
Well, now, I think you might be right and I appreciate you taking the time to type that out. I think that is what I AM seeing...not being a b-ball coach or anything , just a fan, I had not thought of it that way. You make a lot of sense to me with that comment. I'm going to pay attention this weekend and I'm betting you're right! Thanks!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 25, 2009, 07:47:14 pm
Congrats to Natalie for being named the "GSAC Player of the Year" and a member of the All-Conference Team.

Congrats to Jeanna Dalton for being named to the All-Conference team.

Tara for being named to the GSAC All-Freshman Team.

Natalie, Rachel, and Alexis to the GSAC All- Academic.

Congrats to the team! keep it going!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 27, 2009, 04:28:37 pm
Nice article in the Daily Times about the Scots and the tournament:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090227/SPORTS/302279964
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 27, 2009, 10:24:44 pm
WHEW!!!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 27, 2009, 11:14:33 pm
Too close but I see what you mean with the reason you gave me. I watched a bit differently this evening but, yeah, "whew" is right. Piedmont wanted it so badly, you could see it out there.
Congrats Lady Scots. We'll be there tomorrow to see another win. I'm getting too old to watch these super close ballgames.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on February 28, 2009, 07:22:08 pm
Congrats to the Lady Scots winning the GSAC tourney!!

I was certainly proud of them! I'd title it the Natalie Munday Show. She certainly did a turnaround and got her groove back.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MC Hammer on February 28, 2009, 10:56:52 pm
Congrats to both Todd Wright and his Lady Scots.  The team has come a long way since the start of the season.  You can tell that both the players and coaches have put a lot of hard work in.  I'm glad the ladies were able to come back this year and have the success they've had after some of the things they have had to experience in the past year. 

Good luck in the NCAA tournament!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 28, 2009, 11:40:06 pm
Nat played awesome in both games.

So happy for the ladies after what they experienced the last 2 years!

Congrats to Coach Wright and the GSAC regular season and tourney CHAMPS, the LADY SCOTS!!!!!!!

Anxious to see where and who we play in NCAA Tourney!!!

Any chance we could host a game?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 28, 2009, 11:48:30 pm
Nat played awesome in both games.

So happy for the ladies after what they experienced the last 2 years!

Congrats to Coach Wright and the GSAC regular season and tourney CHAMPS, the LADY SCOTS!!!!!!!

Anxious to see where and who we play in NCAA Tourney!!!

Any chance we could host a game?
Not likely.  You probably go to Oglethorpe.  Greensboro lost their shot with a loss.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 01, 2009, 07:22:05 am

Anxious to see where and who we play in NCAA Tourney!!!

Any chance we could host a game?
Not likely.  You probably go to Oglethorpe.  Greensboro lost their shot with a loss.



What if Trinity beats Oglethorpe today?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 01, 2009, 01:06:32 pm
Maryville Daily Times on the Scots win yesterday:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090301/SPORTS/303019955

I hope they get to play someone who will not take them seriously.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 02, 2009, 11:59:41 am
Another shot at Oglethorpe, which then leads to Greensboro.  At least the Scots know what they have to deal with!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 02, 2009, 12:21:59 pm
WOW!!

Talking about playing with heavyweights...look at this bracket....

Our cinderalla run starts at:
Oglethorpe (25-3), then probably Greensboro (26-2), then the overall tournament #1 seed George Fox (27-0), then probably Hope (25-1)....!!!! All this just to get to the final 4....then what UConn......lol

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on March 02, 2009, 06:04:59 pm
They've definitely go their work cut out for them. I really hope they can do it. That would be awesome! I'm just proud they made it this far. It has been such a rough road for them. It will great if they can come together, all be 'on" and play their hearts out.

Go Lady Scots!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on March 03, 2009, 03:14:37 pm
This was requested on the Men's GSAC board so I figured I'd post it here for all those who can't make it to Atlanta.


Oglethorpe Broadcasts all home games  Here's the link where the games will be listed on the day of the game. http://www.oglethorpe.edu/athletics/listen_live.asp (http://www.oglethorpe.edu/athletics/listen_live.asp)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 04, 2009, 05:22:22 pm
Pat Coleman has the Petrels winning their pod:

http://www.d3hoops.com/women-final-four/09/preview.htm

Good chance for the Scots to catch 'em reading their press clippings.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 05, 2009, 11:48:21 am
Nice piece about Natalie Munday.  Not so nice about her former coach.

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090305/SPORTS/303059974
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 05, 2009, 12:37:33 pm
Pat Coleman has the Petrels winning their pod:

http://www.d3hoops.com/women-final-four/09/preview.htm

Good chance for the Scots to catch 'em reading their press clippings.

You're beating that drum pretty hard, don'tcha think?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 05, 2009, 01:46:09 pm
inderdog syndrome.  I do not expect it to work.  Oglethorpe will be very ready and has a ton of experience.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 06, 2009, 10:17:33 am
Nice article about the Oglethorpe-MC rematch:

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090306/SPORTS/303069976

I guess trying to help the Stormy Petrels overlook the Scots did not work. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 10, 2009, 05:00:31 pm
Anybody got any good rumors about who Coach Wright is recruiting?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 11, 2009, 10:17:52 am
Anybody got any good rumors about who Coach Wright is recruiting?

I know he got a post coming in from Walker Valley.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on March 11, 2009, 11:06:24 pm
Nice piece about Natalie Munday.  Not so nice about her former coach.

http://thedailytimes.com/article/20090305/SPORTS/303059974

Great article about Nat. I think the truth's gotta hurt. I do not know what happened in all that. I had dinner with the man once and he was very nice. But somewhere, someplace, things went very wrong for him. I really hope he is doing well *today*.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCScotsFan on March 11, 2009, 11:10:10 pm
Anybody got any good rumors about who Coach Wright is recruiting?

He's got some major recruiting to do. Big job ahead, IMHO. We need some size and height and talent. I saw a lot fo young players watching in the stands at most games.

MC needs players and students in general! I am excited about next year's season.

I am proud of the job they did in Oglethorpe.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 14, 2009, 07:11:31 am
Right now, key to next season is Harmon. Got a very nice group surrounding her. Issue will be depth. Next year's team right now has the potential to be better than this year's team, IMHO. A few key additions could result in a nice run next year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 14, 2009, 03:26:39 pm
I hope Alex will get the chance and be physically able to shoot the ball, as I understand that she used to be able to score from outside!!  That would be helpful.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 14, 2009, 04:45:24 pm
I hope Alex will get the chance and be physically able to shoot the ball, as I understand that she used to be able to score from outside!!  That would be helpful.

Thanks for the well wishes!

Alex will spend the next 3 months doing nothing on that knee but resting it. She probably should have sat out this year, I would have sat her, but that was her call. She will resume some weight work after that. No running, playing, open gym, nothing. She will make a decision when school starts back whether she is going to play next year. There is no doubt that if she is healthy, she can help our team on both ends. What I wouldn't give to see her play her senior season healthy, pain free.

Whatever happens, I / we appreciate the support that was given her the last 3 years. Coach Wright was simply awesome in his treatment of her this year. I know that will be a factor in her decision.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 14, 2009, 11:54:44 pm
GHH says: Coach Wright was simply awesome in his treatment of her this year.

That is really nice to hear.  Good luck!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 24, 2009, 03:12:17 pm
Congratulations to Natalie Munday for making 4th team D3Hoops All-American!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 30, 2009, 09:44:23 am
MC recruits:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3010

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3009
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 05, 2009, 10:23:43 am
Looks like Coach Wright has been working!

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3011
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 06, 2009, 09:04:29 am
More Maryville recruiting news:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3018
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 07, 2009, 09:08:25 am
Coach Wright carried 15 on the roster last year.

If eveyone returns from last year, plus the new recruits, roster is at 16 right now.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 07, 2009, 10:53:39 am
Scots lost a bunch of people and have some spots to fill, especially for the future beyond next year.  Chances are someone will get hurt or choose not to play or be unable to find the money for school, so it seems to me he needs to bring in at least as many as left....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 07, 2009, 01:50:12 pm
Scots lost a bunch of people and have some spots to fill, especially for the future beyond next year.  Chances are someone will get hurt or choose not to play or be unable to find the money for school, so it seems to me he needs to bring in at least as many as left....

Wasn't saying that as a negative because of the 10 players that could return, only 5 played real game minutes, 3 are coming off injuries and surgeries and 2 that only played sparingly. We need players for sure. IMHO, I think Harmon is the key to next years success, kind of like Natalie was this year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 08, 2009, 01:04:57 pm
Another MC recruit from Seymour.  If she is as helpful as Tara, that would be helpful!  That makes two point guard recruits.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 08, 2009, 01:05:48 pm
Forgot the link.

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3023
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 14, 2009, 01:07:20 pm
Another Scot recruit.  Coaches Wright and Lambert must have a bet down on who can recruit the most guards.

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3030
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2009, 08:25:31 pm
Salem (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+iii/gsac+approves+membership+for+salem_05_15_09_ncaa_news) joins the GSAC as 8th school and 4th women's college.

Salem submitted a timetable for softball, too.

Salem becomes the 7th GSAC women's school to offer tennis.  That should move the GSAC from Pool B to Pool A in Tennis in 2012.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 17, 2009, 08:31:33 am
Another Scot recruit.  Coaches Wright and Lambert must have a bet down on who can recruit the most guards.

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3030

I'm anticipating a more up tempo style of play next year with alot more full court pressing.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 17, 2009, 05:00:48 pm
Thanks for the info, Ralph!

GHH:  I agree.  It should be more like what Coach Wright says he likes to do.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 20, 2009, 01:07:41 pm
Salem (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+iii/gsac+approves+membership+for+salem_05_15_09_ncaa_news) joins the GSAC as 8th school and 4th women's college.

Salem submitted a timetable for softball, too.

Salem becomes the 7th GSAC women's school to offer tennis.  That should move the GSAC from Pool B to Pool A in Tennis in 2012.

Ralph,

With 8 teams now in basketball, will that allow for an at large bid to be possible plus a automatic qualifier or will it still be just whoever wins GSAC conference tournament get the auto bid?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 20, 2009, 03:00:36 pm
The conference always has the opportunity for an at-large if one is good enough to qualify, but there is no second AQ for large conferences.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: egghead on May 26, 2009, 01:51:30 pm
Being from North Carolina, I am really surprised to see Salem join this conference especially considering the economy and the amount of travel that will be involved. I had heard that they tried to get in the USA South Conference but were turned down because the conference did not want to add another "girls only" school. The last three additions have been Peace, Meredith, and Mary Baldwin which are all single sex schools. I saw where Salem is going to have to bring back softball as a condition of membership. After playing at the club level for several years, they made it a varsity sport for two years and then quit the second season right in the middle of the year. When they did play, they usually got run ruled after just 3 ininings. They will have a really tough time recruiting when they bring the sport back because I do not believe they ever won a game at the varsity level. Maybe they can find the right person this time that knows a little about softball. I guess only time will tell.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 26, 2009, 03:22:11 pm
I really see this as part of a bigger picture for D-III in the southeast.

Salem gets into a conference which helps with scheduling.  The non-conference games will be the same teams (USA South) as they have had.  The GSAC moves to an 8-team (women's) conference.  This solidifies the AQ's for the women...8 is better than 7.  The addition of softball just made sense.  Salem's Volleyball and Tennis give the GSAC an AQ bid in 2011-12.

This also strikes a balance for women's programs in the southeast, 4 all-women's schools in the GSAC and now 3 in the USAC.  (The conference alignment makes that 8 GSAC women's teams and 10 USAC of 9 if Shenandoah leaves.)

I still believe that Shenandoah is out of the USA South by fall 2012.  The USA South men need an affiliation with the GSAC men to maintain the AQ.

I also look for the GSAC to add Covenant if they decide to come D3 after their provisional exploratory year, 2008-09.  We should hear on Berry GA and Covenant in the next 6 weeks. (Berry probably goes to the SCAC after 1-2 years as an independent.)

EDIT:  exploratory
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: egghead on May 26, 2009, 06:31:25 pm
Ralph Turner-The way you explained it makes perfect sense for allowing Salem to join the GSAC. It is just going to take a complete turnaround for Salem to ever become competetive in softball. The way I understand it is that most of the girls never even played high school ball, much less travel ball. They were strictly out there for fun. Schools would try their best to hold the score down but would still run rule them in 3 innings in most cases. That does not do either team much good in that situation.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 26, 2009, 07:15:23 pm
Ralph Turner-The way you explained it makes perfect sense for allowing Salem to join the GSAC. It is just going to take a complete turnaround for Salem to ever become competetive in softball. The way I understand it is that most of the girls never even played high school ball, much less travel ball. They were strictly out there for fun. Schools would try their best to hold the score down but would still run rule them in 3 innings in most cases. That does not do either team much good in that situation.   
I think that the commitment by Salem to be competitive in the GSAC is what is being asked of the school  by the conference.  I don't have the best "feel" for the GSAC softball, but Wesleyan, Agnes Scott and Spelman appear to be their own strata.  If the addition of Salem changes the standings from


2008-09 GSAC Softball
School GSACOverall
1.    Maryville 11-1        21-15
      LaGrange    11-1    25-21
3.    Huntingdon    8-4         17-22-1
4.    Piedmont            6-6         15-17
5.    Wesleyan    4-8            5-26
6.    Agnes Scott    1-11    5-22
      Spelman            1-11    2-26

to

2008-09 GSAC Softball
School    GSAC    Overall
1.    Maryville            13-1    21-15
       LaGrange    13-1    25-21
3.    Huntingdon    10-4    17-22-1
4.    Piedmont      8-6           15-17
5.    Wesleyan    6-8            6-24
6.    Agnes Scott    2-12    6-21
       Spelman       2-12    3-25
        Salem              2-12          3-25


then the conference has figured that into the equation.

Thanks for the commentary.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: egghead on May 26, 2009, 07:40:41 pm
Ralph Turner-I am pretty sure that Salem played Spelman a couple of years ago in softball and got beat pretty badly. Unless things change drastically, you need to change your projected standings and add another conference victory for Spelman and Agnes Scott and take away the two you gave Salem. You need to understand that Salem never even came close to winning.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 28, 2009, 10:51:45 am
I remember when Maryville's women's basketball team was horrible and then they hired Wes Moore (now at UT-Chattanooga) and things got better pretty quickly.  I hope the administrators understand that it takes coaching, players, and support to succeed.

So Ralph, any more rumors about SCAC realignments?  the GSAC schools would have pretty serious travel issues with the USASouth and less with some alignment of TN, GA, AL, KY, AK, MS schools (as I know you know).
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 28, 2009, 11:41:42 am
Good morning, scottiedoug.

Nothing new, officially.

Centenary, in Shreveport, LA seems to be in a situation where they need to re-evaluate their commitment to D1.

The APR is causing them to lose access to the post-season in baseball and men's basketball.

I would like to have Centenary in the ASC, but they would probably use the ASC as their due diligence investigating  D-III.  The ASC is the conference that has less travel involved.  All members of the ASC-East are within a 210 mile raidus (except Ozarks 309 miles).  The SCAC would claim that they are "peer insitutions".

www.colleges.org

Let's see if Covenant and Berry GA commit to the provisional process this year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 29, 2009, 09:41:43 am
Ralph what does committing to provisional status require of Covenant and Berry?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 29, 2009, 10:40:13 am
Ralph what does committing to provisional status require of Covenant and Berry?
Good morning...

Berry and Covenant were in the Exploratory year in 2008-09.  As I understand it, a school can stay in the exploratory process more than one year.  During the Exploratory Year, they look at the administrative processes, the compliance issues, and the other "hassles" involved with being in the NCAA versus the "hassles" of the NAIA.  The school  looks at the benefits of NCAA membership, the "marketing panache", the financial impact,  the way the alumni reacts, etc.  After that, it is a four year process to become a full member of the NCAA.

We should hear in the next month whether they wish to pursue joining the NCAA.

I hope they join.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 30, 2009, 02:00:13 pm
What is the deal during the four year period?  Can they join a conference?  Do games played against them by D3 schools count as D3 games?

Is it a burden for you to know all this stuff in that the rest of us lean on you?  Or is it just what liberal arts grads are "supposed to" do?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 30, 2009, 02:13:21 pm
What is the deal during the four year period?  Can they join a conference?  Do games played against them by D3 schools count as D3 games?

Is it a burden for you to know all this stuff in that the rest of us lean on you?  Or is it just what liberal arts grads are "supposed to" do?
Thanks for the question Doug.

They can join a conference.  BSC (SCAC) and UT-Tyler (ASC) did in the first year.  They can compete in conference games, and the conference can determine the nature of the participation.  Their games in year #3 and #4 of provisional status count towards in-region records, etc.

The 4-year period is to bring them into compliance with D-III and to get any students out fo the system that might be "scholarship".  They 4-year wiat slows down any jumping from division to division.

After 4 years, they will be eligible for the NCAA playoffs.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 31, 2009, 05:04:39 pm
Thank you!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 09, 2009, 10:19:07 am
Coach Wright has recruited another guard, this one from Roane State, making a bunch of new talent for Maryville:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3051
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 11, 2009, 08:29:16 am
Coach Wright has recruited another guard, this one from Roane State, making a bunch of new talent for Maryville:


Brings the total to 9: 5 guards, 2 forwards, 2 posts
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 12, 2009, 10:11:17 am
GHH:  Do you have any info or opinions about any of these young women?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on June 12, 2009, 10:57:17 pm
GHH:  Do you have any info or opinions about any of these young women?

I have not been able to make any open gyms as of yet to watch any play.

Only three I know is Whitehead from Walker Valley, McNutt from McMinn Central and Menard from Loudon.

With 18 on the roster so far, not sure if any players from last year or any new recruits have changed their minds about playing, I'm anxious to see the depth develope. I think that will be the key as to how far we go this year as the starting 5 IMO ( Alexis and Alicia at guards, Draper and Tara at forwards and Harmon at post) seems pretty solid. That only leaves Holder as the only other player who played major minutes last year when it really counted. There will definitely be opportunities for some.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on June 14, 2009, 01:39:18 pm
I would appreciate any sense you get about the newcomers after you get to some open gyms.  Also, what about the three you do know already?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on July 01, 2009, 10:47:10 am
I read that the Scots lost an assistant coach position to the budget crunch.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 04, 2009, 06:51:55 am
I read that the Scots lost an assistant coach position to the budget crunch.

Would this just be the position that Fowler was holding last year but was unable to fulfill because of other obligations? 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on July 04, 2009, 01:47:53 pm
I do not know which position it was but the young woman assistant from Oliver Springs and UT-C will not be back...she is going to try to play pro maybe in Europe and will not return to MC even if she does not make a pro team because her position was eliminated, according to the newspaper.

Seen any open gym?

How is Alex?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 04, 2009, 02:56:49 pm
Alex is about 85%. She has been working hard in the weight room on getting her leg strength back. She has regained all her calf and thigh definition, but strength is still not completely all the way back. She's real close! She has been running and shooting, working out in Lee University's gym with no issues so far. She says the knee feels great!

I have not been to any open gyms. Alex is not going to play until school starts back, close to when official practice starts. Her surgeon recommended she take all the time possible before she hits the floor actually playing.

Thanks for asking! 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on July 09, 2009, 11:24:19 am
Scots have landed another player, this time a forward/guard.

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3067
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 15, 2009, 11:10:15 pm
Scottiedoug:

Going to open gym with Alex tomorrow evening.

I'm anxious to see all the new recruits that are present.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on July 15, 2009, 11:25:49 pm
I am anxious for your report!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on July 24, 2009, 09:55:09 am
I am anxious for your report!


I think 5 of the 10 were there. Guard from Seymour shot the ball well. Transfer guard from Roane State has good size. Post / forwards have average size. Nice freshman class to compliment our returning players.

If Harmon and Alex both come back healthy and strong, first 7 will be solid. There definitely will be opportunities for some of the young players. Point guard minutes will be very competitive.

First 6 games.....whew.......can you say challenging!



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on July 24, 2009, 10:00:23 am
Is the schedule up somewhere?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 03, 2009, 07:13:33 pm
Is the schedule up somewhere?

You get my email...?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on August 14, 2009, 10:09:56 am
Maryville announces a transfer who played high school at Farragut and last year played at Birmingham Southern.

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3081
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on August 26, 2009, 06:02:09 pm
Is the schedule up somewhere?

Schedule is up on school website.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on September 09, 2009, 12:13:33 pm
MC's first 6 Methodist 15-11 lost top 2 scorers, Centre 18-9 top 3 scorers return, Oglethorpe always good 27-4 lost top 4 players, Emory 13-12 lost top 3 players, Wesleyan 5-19 BAD!, Carson Newman 19-11 return 4 of top 5 players. What makes it a little tougher is 4 of these games are on the road
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2009, 02:38:17 pm
MC's first 6 Methodist 15-11 lost top 2 scorers, Centre 18-9 top 3 scorers return, Oglethorpe always good 27-4 lost top 4 players, Emory 13-12 lost top 3 players, Wesleyan 5-19 BAD!, Carson Newman 19-11 return 4 of top 5 players. What makes it a little tougher is 4 of these games are on the road

Welcome bkbfan30!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on September 10, 2009, 02:17:19 pm
Thank you-I always check things out just now deciding to join the fun ;D
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on September 11, 2009, 09:08:13 am
Thank you-I always check things out just now deciding to join the fun ;D

Welcome!

Its nice to have another MC voice and eyes for discussion.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on October 19, 2009, 08:04:46 am
Where is everyone???Whats happening in the league? :-\  How is MC looking so far-what are the reports out of camp? ;)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on October 19, 2009, 08:42:22 pm
Where is everyone???Whats happening in the league? :-\  How is MC looking so far-what are the reports out of camp? ;)

Official practice started on the 15th.

Lost one freshman to a ACL tear. Harmon (foot) and Alex (knee) looking pretty good coming back off their injuries from last year. Got a scrimmage, I believe its this Sunday versus Cleveland State Community College at 1pm at Maryville.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on October 28, 2009, 03:34:07 pm
How'd scrimmage look?Who stood out? When do they scrimmage again? I heard they have an exhibition game at Tusculum-Is that true?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on November 05, 2009, 08:13:25 am
WOW THIS SITE IS HOPPIN! I hear several freshman could be starting for the runnin ladies of mc. Any word on Piedmont or huntingdon or even agnes scott who has been descent lately
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 16, 2009, 11:19:37 am
Scots are a very different team this year.  No Natalie but a bunch of new players.  They seemed much quicker and maybe there are enough shooters to spread the threat over the court.

I missed seeing Alex, whom I never got to see play when she was not hurt.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 16, 2009, 03:27:18 pm
Alex was still having some pain in her knee but was still planning on playing. I thought she looked pretty good in their scrimmage against Cleveland State, a step slower but still guarded well. With all the new players, being a Senior, she had a conversation with her coach about her role. He didn't feel she was physically able to do what he needed and therefore didn't consider her to be in the top 12 for playing time. Also, because of budget reasons I guess, he had told the team that he would not be dressing out all the players in away games. Alex asked if she would definitely be one of the 15 players going and he couldn't even promise her that. Alex and I talked about a hour about the situation. She wanted to play, was not concerned about the playing time issue because she felt if she got a chance, that would take care of itself. Getting a chance was the problem. Also the issue of being a Senior and maybe not dressing out on some away games didn't set too well either. 

She wanted to play. I think she actually sat on the bench during the Methodist game. She just didn't want to beat up her knee for garbage time. She made her own decision. 

Thanks for all the well wishes and prayers for Alex through her 2 knee surgeries over the last 3 years. I wish you could have saw her play healthy too. I will be attending some of our home games and wish the team great success!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 16, 2009, 11:21:01 pm
I hope Alex's educational and social experiences at MC will make up for the disappointment about basketball.  I am sure she will be fine if she is as level-headed as GHH.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 17, 2009, 08:34:10 am
I hope Alex's educational and social experiences at MC will make up for the disappointment about basketball.  I am sure she will be fine if she is as level-headed as GHH.

Alex is fine.

She could have helped us on the scoring end from the 3-point where we could struggle, but not sure on the defensive end. I know she could not press full court.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 19, 2009, 10:41:44 am
Oglethorpe always good 27-4 lost top 4 players

Oglethorpe graduated their top 6 players (all seniors) and 95% of their scoring... including 2 All Americans.

Lots of freshman and transfers... ask Emory how those youngin's are!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 19, 2009, 11:40:14 am
So we are about to have a young'uns game!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: FlightofthePetrel on November 19, 2009, 01:25:41 pm
yes sir sure enough... should provide a nice measuring stick for both teams.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on November 21, 2009, 08:40:24 am
Maryvilles youngins are about to grow up quick w/the stretch of games they are in-at Centre, at Oglethorpe where Coach Satelle(sp?) has reloaded, at Emory which is always tough to play and against DII power CN. Looking at these three Emory should be a win-playing there will be the biggest problem Oggy looked good and Carson newman is rolling people and forcing there opponents into over 40 turnovers a game. The scotties will crush Wesleyan-hopefully we can sneek one out of the stormy petral
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: wilburt on November 22, 2009, 08:43:18 am
Fisk defeated Spelman yesterday 79-71.

Spelman has this freshman guard than can shoot the lights out.  Watch out!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on November 22, 2009, 07:24:25 pm
OMG Fisk is horrible!! It will take more than one person to knock off the likes of the lady scots! or the rest of the league for that matter...well with exeption of wesleyan
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: wilburt on November 23, 2009, 08:00:06 am
OMG Fisk is horrible!! It will take more than one person to knock off the likes of the lady scots! or the rest of the league for that matter...well with exeption of wesleyan

Whatever ...
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on November 23, 2009, 08:45:16 pm
Anyway on to better teams...Lady Scots put it to Oglethorpe tonight. Can't use the OU is young excuse b/c so are the scots! Sevier, Harmon , and Menard having big nights
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on November 23, 2009, 08:56:19 pm
Very nice win for the Lady Scots! 5 players in double digits!

57 combined 3's shot by both teams....wide open......gotta love it.....fun....

Go get Emory tomorrow night!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 24, 2009, 01:20:55 am
Wilburt!  Glad to hear from you!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: wilburt on November 24, 2009, 07:58:20 am
Anyway on to better teams...

Whatever... 

Wilburt!  Glad to hear from you!

Thanks Doug!  I see some things never change as in bkbfan30.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 24, 2009, 12:36:03 pm
"Fraid so.

Is Fisk in a league and how are they doing?  I miss the rivalry, even though it was difficult.  Fisk made MC (men) have to play for serious.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: wilburt on November 24, 2009, 12:56:47 pm
I will respond in a PM. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on November 24, 2009, 02:16:57 pm
All I said is it will take more than 1 person to beat teams in this league and I also stated the obvious w/re to Fisk women-the rival with men was good because they cared about the men's program-good female athletes are not going to go to a non scholarship school(albeit one with great academics)that has those facilities(which need an upgrade) The lady scots are very good and spelman may have a good player but it will take more than one to beat them or most of the team in the league. Fisk is what it is a 1-5 team getting beat by 25 or more a game.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: wilburt on November 24, 2009, 03:03:16 pm
Doug Please check your PM.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: wilburt on November 25, 2009, 08:32:50 am
It will take more than one person to knock off the likes of the lady scots! or the rest of the league for that matter...well with exeption of wesleyan

Spelman 80 Huntingdon 62

Lady Hawks Fall to Spelman in GSAC Opener, 80-62

ATLANTA - Senior Lori Bonds scored a game-high 19 points, but Spelman had five players score in double figures as the Jaguars defeated the Lady Hawks 80-62 in each team’s Great South Athletic Conference opener Tuesday evening.

Bonds was joined in double-digits by junior Latarial Williams, who added 10 points. Bonds also pulled down a team-high nine rebounds.

Huntingdon dug an early hole in the contest, hitting just 25 percent of its shots in the first half and trailed at the half 41-18. The Lady Hawks battled and hit 12-of-19 shots (63.2 percent) in the second half, but the first-half deficit was too much to overcome.

Spelman was led by Shanda Kennedy with 18 points, while Jessica Reagans and Monique Shelton each added 12 points. Mariah Coggins and Tiana Welch both chipped in 11 points.  The Lady Hawks also struggled to take care of the ball, committing 32 turnovers, compared to just 16 by the Jaguars.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on November 25, 2009, 12:33:20 pm
Good job spelman the league can use another team to push the winner in the ncaa tournament. 5 in dbl figures will help win alot of games-again ONE player should never beat a TEAM.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 02, 2009, 11:59:35 pm
Young Scots looked pretty impressive against a talented and unbeaten Carson Newman!  They will beat a lot of teams if they play that well.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 03, 2009, 12:18:57 am
Young Scots looked pretty impressive against a talented and unbeaten Carson Newman!  They will beat a lot of teams if they play that well.

They played extremely well! Harmon a scoring force inside as expected. A little more defensive rebounding and we win that game. I was really impressed with the freshman #11, Janell Menard.

Losing Tara is going to hurt.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 03, 2009, 11:00:17 am
What is the report on Tara's injury?  She is a big part of the Scots' strength and depth....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 03, 2009, 06:11:04 pm
What is the report on Tara's injury?  She is a big part of the Scots' strength and depth....

I talked to Todd after the game. He said trainers informed him torn ACL. Have not heard anymore. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 11, 2009, 10:33:01 pm
scottiedoug:

Tara did tear her ACL. Surgery scheduled around the 27th of this month.

Roster has really took a hit. Season started with 19 players.
Injuries out - 3 ( Tara, Donja, Ashleigh)
Chosen to leave team for whatever reasons - 5 ( Kelsey, Laura, Kelsie, Jessica and Alex)

Forced 34 turnovers last game. We had 30, but still won by 20.
Berry will be a tough test.  Should have a good crowd to cheer our ladies on!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on December 15, 2009, 09:22:40 am
Offensive rebounding was an issue again for the ladies that along with poor shooting did them in-this IS a good team! Why some chose to quit -don't know w/o the obvious 2 reasons of lack of PT and the tough academic rigors of Maryville in addition to Coach Wrights demands-It takes a special person to play competitive DIII basketball at a strong academic school-I wish the defectors well sometimes these things just don't work out. Injuries are part of it unfortunately and losing Tar hurts b/c she was so clutch-Ashleigh would have given them PG depth and energy-dont know much about Donja. Coach has a good group to work with and remember 2 of their losses are to scholarship teams, and good teams-Berry still has kids that won alot of games while in a tough NAIA league and last I looked Carson Newman is undefeated and just knocked off the #8 team in the country on the road.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 15, 2009, 11:04:01 am
Does anyone know the nature and seriousness of the injuries to Donja and Ashleigh?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on December 15, 2009, 11:55:29 am
Ashleigh was an ACL in preseason I think-IDK about Donja
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 15, 2009, 06:18:09 pm
Donja has something to do with her bursa sac in her knee. Not sure if there's anything else going on.

We need a defensive stopper. Somebody like Mel or Colleen from last year.

And we too nice! Kills me late in games when a player has maybe 1 or 2 fouls and just give up a layup. Make them earn it on the line.

I wouldnt go as far and say those who quit were defectors. Maybe they just didnt want to put up with some of the things that others will put up with, had other priorities other than basketball or just simply didnt want to play.

Team should get back on the winning track versus Greensboro. Most of the players from last years tournament team are gone.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 17, 2009, 08:43:27 pm
Great win for LaGrange over Oglethorpe, 80-72.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 02, 2010, 11:57:40 am
bkbfan30:

I hear Paige, the transfer from Roane State has quit the team. I just checked the box scores from the tourney in Indiana and she was not listed in either game. We will miss her 3-point shooting if true.

Any info?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 03, 2010, 12:26:06 pm
Seems like a lot of people leaving a program that is winning....  Page had played for Coach Wright before so you'd think she knew what to ezpect.  Could be money or academics?  GHH you are usually the one who knows things!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 05, 2010, 07:06:27 pm
Seems like a lot of people leaving a program that is winning....  Page had played for Coach Wright before so you'd think she knew what to ezpect.  Could be money or academics?  GHH you are usually the one who knows things!

Winning is not everything! Being treated and talked to with respect and some show of loyalty means alot to some. Kids watch whats going on around them more than we give them credit for.

I hear Paige left school. I look for at least one more maybe to quit.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 05, 2010, 11:12:32 pm
Watching the games has led me to wonder about your comment "Being treated and talked to with respect."  D3 is voluntary basketball and, fortunately, people sometimes do not volunteer to be "disrespected," if that really is a word.

I hope Coach Wright pays attention.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on January 06, 2010, 08:00:57 am
From what I hear its all about the last two comments. He has an all about me attitude and doesn't care whose feelings are hurt to acheive"HIS" goals. D3 IS all about a "want" to play-most of these kids are playing because they love the game soooo much not because they want to take out $15,000 to play and get disrespected. There is a difference of constructive criticism and bashing-there is also a thing called honesty and if you are not honest with these kids then it will come back to bite you-GHH you are correct in that these girls know what is going on around them. Unfortunately its ruining what could have been a great season-reality is they can win this conference with half their team but if and when they get to the big dance they will eventually get embarrassed with what is happening.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bkbfan30 on January 14, 2010, 10:06:56 am
Are things that bad on the women's side and in lady scotville that I am the only one thats posted in the past 8 days- Lady Scots run the table and host 1st round of NCAA's-get um ladies
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 14, 2010, 12:04:36 pm
Any word on Page Sevier?  Coach Wright suggested on the radio last week that she may be back.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 14, 2010, 09:22:40 pm
Lost another player last week for whatever reasons. That left only 9 active players. Looks like we added 2 players who are current or former soccer players.

Beat Agnes Scott by 18 tonight!

Should run the table.....don't sleep on LaGrange or Spelman. Should make tourney.......I doubt we get to host even if we win it all because of lack of strength of schedule and number of noticeable wins.....Probably play someone like Mississippi College 1st round on their home floor.

If Paige comes back, does that open the door for everyone else to return?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 15, 2010, 12:33:58 pm
I think the two newbies are volleyball players.  One of them (#54) seemed last night to have some skills...lots of huffing and puffing but that can be fixed.
They both are tall!

I thought the hometeam Scots looked ok esp. in the first half, but there does not seem to be any team in the GSAC that is any good this year.  Agnes Scott beat Piedmont and have a ways to go to be anywhere as good as they were last year.  Piedmont is 2-7. 

Which player left the team last week?  Sometimes after first semester when people leave it has to do with academics....

Page was not there so maybe it was wishful thinking on Coach's part.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 15, 2010, 12:36:53 pm
Scots are nationally ranked in several statistics:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3325

Hard to know what to make of it since the competition is not very challenging.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on January 15, 2010, 01:21:39 pm
Scottiedoug:

Thanks for the correction on the volleyball players.

I mentioned LaGrange because I think they got 4 of their 5 starters back from last year. They played us pretty close (13 pts) on their floor last year.

I mentioned Spelman just because they will probably pressure us most of the game and sometimes we have turnover issues.

Ashley Holder - Post Player - Played pretty well when on the floor

Paige might be coming back. She is the only player still listed on the roster not with the team.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 17, 2010, 01:29:19 pm
Paige played and scored some points, although she did not start.  I am glad whatever was up with her is resolved (assuming....) since someday we may play somebody.  I guess LaGrange may be the best other team in the GSAC this year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: egghead on January 18, 2010, 09:09:50 am
I am from North Carolina, and I was curious about what the other fans thought about the addition of Salem to the conference. I saw where they got hammered by Maryville 105-47. Is this going to be a good addition for the conference in the long run? Also, I read that one of their requirements to join the conference was they had to field a softball team beginning in 2011. However, it appears they have yet to hire a coach. Did they get that requirement deferred? I do know that their program was terminated right in the middle of the 2007 season, so it is going to be tough to get it started again. With Salem being the only school from North Carolina, travel expenses have to be out the roof for them.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 18, 2010, 11:58:15 am
egghead:  It seemed like an odd choice to me but Salem must have figured it was in their interest to do it.  If they have to have softball in 2011, they really do not have to have a coach now, unless they want to have a good team.  As you may know, having a good women's basketball team is not a criterion for membership in the GSAC.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 18, 2010, 07:11:51 pm
I really see this as part of a bigger picture for D-III in the southeast.

Salem gets into a conference which helps with scheduling.  The non-conference games will be the same teams (USA South) as they have had.  The GSAC moves to an 8-team (women's) conference.  This solidifies the AQ's for the women...8 is better than 7.  The addition of softball just made sense.  Salem's Volleyball and Tennis give the GSAC an AQ bid in 2011-12.

This also strikes a balance for women's programs in the southeast, 4 all-women's schools in the GSAC and now 3 in the USAC.  (The conference alignment makes that 8 GSAC women's teams and 10 USAC of 9 if Shenandoah leaves.)

I still believe that Shenandoah is out of the USA South by fall 2012.  The USA South men need an affiliation with the GSAC men to maintain the AQ.

I also look for the GSAC to add Covenant if they decide to come D3 after their provisional exploratory year, 2008-09.  We should hear on Berry GA and Covenant in the next 6 weeks. (Berry probably goes to the SCAC after 1-2 years as an independent.)

EDIT:  exploratory

egghead, thanks for the update.

We had this discussion last summer about Salem.  They are providing an AQ for Volleyball and Tennis in 2011-12, if they field a team in each sport.  That ought to be worth something!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: egghead on January 18, 2010, 07:16:30 pm
It seems logical they would have joined the USA South Conference due to proximity of most of the other schools. However, the conference has admitted 3 women colleges over the last several years and probably were not interested in adding a 4th.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Coach C on January 23, 2010, 01:06:39 pm
Good Luck to Lady Lions of Piedmont College and John Dzik today as he returns to the sidelines as a head coach.  The legendary former Cabrini men's coach and current Piedmont AD will take over the team  as they take on Spellman College on Atlanta, GA.  Dzik steps up to the head spot as the Lady Lions coach Jamie Purdy has to step aside for the remainder of the season with pregnancy-related issues.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mailsy on January 23, 2010, 04:11:34 pm
Congrats to Piedmont interim Coach John Dzik.  1st win in 5 years.  Great job coach!  :)

Mailsy
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Wolfpac on January 23, 2010, 05:51:24 pm
Congrats to Piedmont interim Coach John Dzik.  1st win in 5 years.  Great job coach!  :)

Mailsy

Congratulations COACH Dzik and the Lady Lions.   Hope this is the start of something good. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bballlover on January 31, 2010, 10:16:35 pm
Lady Lions won over a good Lady Scotts team this afternoon.This could be a race after all.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Wolfpac on February 01, 2010, 09:05:05 am
Lady Lions won over a good Lady Scotts team this afternoon.This could be a race after all.

Congratulations Lady Lions and Coach Dzik.      Coach Dzik can make wonderful things happen when he gets people to believe. Hope the regular coach is OK as well.    Go Lady Lions it can be done if you believe in yourselves with Coach Dzik at the helm.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 01, 2010, 10:35:08 am
The transfer, Sada Wheeler, from the SEC South Carolina Gamecocks make Piedmont a totally different team.

Its a 3 team race now: Maryville, LaGrange and Piedmont.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 01, 2010, 11:44:52 am
It can only be a good thing for there to be several teams in the GSAC that are competitive at a pretty high level.  Beating teams by 40 and 50 points does not prepare whichever team wins the GSAC to handle what they face in the NCAA.

Congratulations to Piedmont!

Go Scots!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Wolfpac on February 02, 2010, 10:25:51 am
The transfer, Sada Wheeler, from the SEC South Carolina Gamecocks make Piedmont a totally different team.

Its a 3 team race now: Maryville, LaGrange and Piedmont.

Coach Dzik seems to have the women's winning ways rubbing off on the men as well.  Glad Wheeler is being used effectively.  Saw Dzik take a team who were undermanned, undersized, and not deep to the Sweet 16.  The man knows how to win and can outcoach anyone on any given day.  He plans well and knows what to do with what he has on the floor.

Anyhow, I am glad Piedmont is in the running and has confidence to have a shot in the playoffs.   
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mailsy on February 06, 2010, 06:59:25 pm
Congrats to Piedmont's Lady Lions and Coach Dzik.  They win again.  That's now 5 in a row, since he has taken over.  :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on February 11, 2010, 06:19:14 pm
So looking ahead, here's a thought to ponder. How important in the No. 1 seed this year? There's a detectable drop off from the three-team race at the top (MC, PC, LC). The two and three most likely play each other then the survivor will almost certainly get a fresher no. 1 team in the finals.

Its nice to see the GSAC have this concern for a change instead of being a two team battle the way its been the last few years.

So kudos to LaGrange. I liked what I saw from them a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on February 12, 2010, 07:00:50 am
Big game tomorrow with LaGrange at Piedmont.

If LaGrange wins, Maryville gets #1 seed.

If Piedmont wins, that sets up an very exciting game next Saturday with Piedmont at Maryville. Winner gets #1 seed.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bballlover on February 12, 2010, 03:09:24 pm
Nice to have two big games in Demorest this late in the year. Ladies will not soon forget the game in LaGrange.Men try to hold on to a share of first.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCSID on February 22, 2010, 05:13:59 pm
GSAC basketball tournament begins Tuesday with women's first round games
GSAC Sports Information
The 2010 Great South Athletic Conference Championship Tournament begins Tuesday with two women's first round games. The tournament continues Friday and Saturday with the semifinals and championship games at Agnes Scott College in Decatur, Ga.

The women's first round games will be played at the higher seed. Third-seeded Piedmont hosts sixth-seeded Salem and fourth-seeded Agnes Scott hosts fifth-seeded Spelman. Game time is 7 p.m. for both games.

Friday Schedule
1 p.m. Women's Semifinal
#1 Maryville vs. Agnes Scott/Spelman winner
3 p.m. Men's Semifinal
#1 Maryville vs. #4 Huntingdon
* 5:30 p.m. Women's Semifinal
#2 LaGrange vs. Piedmont/Salem winner
7:30 p.m. Men's Semifinal
#2 Piedmont vs. #3 LaGrange

* Agnes Scott, if playing Friday, will play the 5:30 game regardless of seed.

Saturday Schedule
2 p.m. Women's Championship Game
4 p.m. Men's Championship Game

All of the games at Agnes Scott College on Friday and Saturday will be available on FREE live video and audio at www.pennatlantic.com (Look under Agnes Scott College)

Ticket Prices
Children age 5 and under are free
$15- Adult General Admission Tournament Pass
$10- Adult General Admission Single Day Pass
$8 - Student/Senior General Admission Tournament Pass (with ID)
$5 - Student/Senior General Admission Single Day Pass (with ID)
There are no team pass lists allowed for the tournament.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mailsy on February 27, 2010, 03:38:55 pm
Tough loss for Piedmont and Coach Dzik.  Congrats to Maryville for hanging tough and winning it in the end.  It was a nice run for the Lady Lions.  :(
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 27, 2010, 05:22:35 pm
No wonder Coach Dzik has such a good record as a coach!  It is better for the Scots that he return to being AD next year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mailsy on February 27, 2010, 05:36:02 pm
No wonder Coach Dzik has such a good record as a coach!  It is better for the Scots that he return to being AD next year.

Makes you wonder why he was fired in the first place.  ???
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 27, 2010, 09:16:18 pm
No wonder Coach Dzik has such a good record as a coach!  It is better for the Scots that he return to being AD next year.

Makes you wonder why he was fired in the first place.  ???
Welcome to the GSAC board, mailsy.

I think that Coach Dzik is better off where he is.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MC Hammer on February 27, 2010, 10:33:03 pm
Congrats to Coach Wright and the Lady Scots.  Here's hoping for a good draw in the tournament.  It'd be nice to get a W and be able to move the program one step further than last year.  Gonna be fun to watch. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Wolfpac on February 28, 2010, 08:28:51 pm
Knowing Coach Dzik he will be coaching again.  Don't know where but he will be at it again somewhere. (men)

He is enjoying his life and time down there. I am glad for him.  He deserves it after putting up with all that nonsense up there after he gave his heart and soul.  The students up there were lucky enough to have him and the alumni of Dzik still know the legend he is.............  wish he would get to the #500 win mark someday and be offically honored in some capacity.

Congratulations to PIedmont and Maryville.  Came down to the wire and the best team won.  (the Dzik factor).  Better order my Piedmont gear for next year. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 28, 2010, 09:01:37 pm
OK if Coach Dzik is a legend etc., how come when his team loses, it is because of the "Dzik factor?"  What am I missing here?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Wolfpac on March 01, 2010, 05:59:36 pm
sorry there, did not say it right...meant that he had the ladies believing in themselves and if you know Coach Dzik he does not expect to lose any game.

The Dzik factor got them there believing in themselves with the attitude and X's and O's to put them into position to win in the final seconds.   Dzik did not turn the ball over twice at the end.  The ladies had to play to the final second and take care of the ball which Coach Dzik could not do for them. ....  Perhaps it was nerves or inexperience.

Either way congratulations to the Lady Lions for doing their best.  Would have loved to had been a fly on the wall when Dzik was telling them what to do and not to do in the final seconds.  The man knows how to win and I have seen him win a game with plays having only 8 tenths of a second on the clock.  

He also beat some teams in the NCAA tourney who he had no business of beating.  He can out coach anyone if the players execute to his plan.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 02, 2010, 03:22:59 pm
Though a little late....

Congrats to the Lady Scots on winning the regular season and conference tournament championships! Job well done!

Good luck against Washington U. Nobody gave us much of a chance last year against then #5 ranked Oglethorpe and we almost got them.

Relax, have fun and lets see what happens!

If weather permits, I think I'll make the trip.

Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: batteredbard on March 02, 2010, 11:45:42 pm
Tossing out a kudos to Agnes Scott.

Thought they did a good job as host. There were a few things I was concerned about going in, like parking and seating capacity, but the parking worked out real well and for whatever reason the crowd wasn't really there this year. Maybe I've misjudged the number of host school's students in the crowd in year's past but it looked a bit empty.

The last minute of the title game reminded me a whole lot of the end of the 2008 title game, when if I remember right, roles were a bit reversed on the last play and outcome.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCSID on March 05, 2010, 02:45:05 pm
NCAA Game at Thomas More. NO LIVE RADIO... Live Audio and Video at: http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/index.asp
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 05, 2010, 11:34:12 pm
I was not able to see the Scots game but did utilize the live stats.  It seemed like the Scots held their own quite well for a long time against Wash U.  I think this should prepare the Scots for next year.  If they work hard over the summer and get some more help (and Tara), they should know they can play at a high level in D3.  WashU is about as good as it gets year to year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on March 06, 2010, 01:33:01 am
Watched the game.

They played well.

If the one kid from WU hadnt had a career night, things could have been different. She was averaging 11 ppg and scored 31 which included 8 - 12 from 3-point.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 06, 2010, 11:42:13 pm
I am looking forward to next year already.  I hope the players stay healthy and do well in school and put in the time this summer!   Maybe recruit a few new ones, too.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: MCSID on March 09, 2010, 03:00:48 pm
Please vote for the Maryville College Women's Basketball Team of the Decade (2000-2010)

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/KHQFJC5 (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/KHQFJC5)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 17, 2010, 12:08:55 am
Congratulations to Alison Harmon for making third team All South Region.  It has been fun to watch her play!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on March 20, 2010, 11:42:38 pm
The Scots should take some momentum and confidence into next year as Washington U. won the national title and the Scots played them as well as anyone did in the tournament.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on April 01, 2010, 11:33:38 pm
Maryville's recruiting is off to a promising start...a guard who can shoot!

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3469

Title: MC Coach leaves
Post by: Big Dog on May 11, 2010, 04:40:15 pm
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/may/11/lenoir-city-hires-wright-coach-girls-basketball/

Todd Wright leaves Maryville College for Lenoir City Girl's Job.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 11, 2010, 05:19:13 pm
It is hard to build a successful program changing coaches every few years....
Several quite successful MC coaches have stuck around a few years so it may not be MC that is the problem.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 12, 2010, 10:12:52 am
Here is the Daily Times' story about Coach Wright's departure:

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20100512/SPORTS/305129980/-1/sports

Chances are his wife explained some things about raising young kids alone....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on May 12, 2010, 09:55:05 pm
MC let the "BEST" leave without question....Dee Bell.

No stability at the head coaching position since he left.
 



Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 14, 2010, 10:02:12 am
MC's take on the new coach:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3560
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 28, 2010, 10:58:47 am
Maryville announces two more recruits:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3571

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=10&id=3570
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: coachwgh on October 28, 2010, 02:23:00 pm
Bold prediction: tight GSAC women's race, Regular season champ has at least 3 GSAC loses and tournament winner is not #1 Seed....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bskball101 on October 28, 2010, 06:54:49 pm
Anyone have any preseason predictions for how the teams will stack up this year? Will Maryville and Piedmont be the two favoritesto repeat in the GSAC Championship? Only two weeks away until the run begins
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on November 15, 2010, 09:15:09 am
Maryvillle Daily Times has an article about the Scots before the opener tonight with Centre:

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20101115/SPORTS/311159980/-1/sports
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bballlover on November 19, 2010, 03:20:09 pm
Piedmont ladies open tonight.I expect a banner year.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bskball101 on November 22, 2010, 09:47:51 pm
Maryville or Piedmont wins Conference? What about Lagrange?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bskball101 on November 30, 2010, 08:20:23 pm
I watched Lagrange play in Fayettville, they looked pretty strong. They will definitely be in the mix. This could be a very tight race in this conference.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: lcwildcatfan on December 01, 2010, 07:49:52 pm
Please keep Coach Janice Joseph-Richard's family in your prayers! She passed away not long ago with her battle with cancer! She was a very dear friend of mine! She leaves a true legacy of courage and perseverance behind! She taught me to be a believer and never give up! May God comfort her family! Love
you Coach Richard! <>< LADY WILDCCAT FOREVER!!!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 03, 2010, 01:09:30 pm
Hey Scottiedoug:

Just wanted to check in and see how our ladies are looking this year. I see we 3-2 so far. Look like they played CN pretty tough.

Hope you and your family are doing great.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 03, 2010, 11:54:08 pm
GHH:  Nice to hear from you.  I have not seen an entire game yet so do not know much.  Neither Methodist nor VA Wesleyan, whom the Scots beat at a tournament, are having much success.  Agnes Scott tomorrow will be a test, at least if they have anything back from last year.

How is Alex?
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: GottaHaveHeart on December 04, 2010, 07:07:36 am
GHH:  Nice to hear from you.  I have not seen an entire game yet so do not know much.  Neither Methodist nor VA Wesleyan, whom the Scots beat at a tournament, are having much success.  Agnes Scott tomorrow will be a test, at least if they have anything back from last year.

How is Alex?

I will check in and see how the Agnes Scott game goes. Hope to come watch a few this year.

Alex is doing great. Thanks for asking. She is still living in Maryville, employed with a company out of  Knoxville, working with and teaching children with autism. I am really proud of her.


Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on December 05, 2010, 04:03:17 pm
Scots (the Maryville ones) looked pretty good and/or Agnes Scott has dropped off a bit since last year.  Some of the newcomers for Maryville p;ayed well.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 14, 2011, 11:29:39 pm
Looks like Piedmont and LaGrange and Maryville are having pretty good years.  This could be interesting....
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bballlover on January 21, 2011, 01:25:21 pm
Piedmont was able to defend their home court against LaGrange last weekend and now need to do the same against Murville.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 23, 2011, 12:10:26 pm
nice idea...no dice.  Did you see the game? 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bballlover on January 24, 2011, 07:50:08 am
I saw most of it Scottie.Your Lady Scotts played well.Lady Lions need to get more minutes from Sada and find a way to make an outside shot.This puts Maryville in a good spot.We will just have to see if they can hold on to it.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 24, 2011, 04:13:23 pm
Makes me uneasy that the Scots may have to beat Piedmont or LaGrange three times to get the NCAA bid.  That is always hard to do.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on January 29, 2011, 11:34:11 pm
Best LaGrange team I've seen.  At least three teams in the GSAC are pretty even at the top.  Nice effort by the Scots today.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2011, 03:28:23 pm
First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 17, 2011, 09:48:25 am
Maryville finally crawled into 6th in the South Region rankings.  If they can win out and do not manage to win the GSAC tournament, maybe they can get a Pool C bid.  That would be the first time the GSAC ever had two women's teams in the NCAA. 

Of the regionally ranked teams, I have seen only Greensboro and Maryville play this year.  They are both pretty good.  Maryville is better now than when Greensboro beat them, but maybe Greensboro is better too.  I would like to see a rematch!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 23, 2011, 04:30:00 pm
Final Regional Rankings before Selection Sunday: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 25, 2011, 11:22:03 pm
I hope Murvul can get a Pool C bid, what with being regionally ranked, after blowing it today with Agnes Scott.  If you do not rebound or shoot, you may not win!!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: mailsy on February 26, 2011, 09:59:37 pm
Congrats to the Lady Lions of Piedmont.  :)
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 26, 2011, 11:48:52 pm
Piedmont gets the AQ bid to the NCAA.  It is great that the GSAC for women has enough teams!   Maryville should land a Pool C bid...if so, getting two GSAC teams in the tournament would be a first.  This year indicates that women's bb in the GSAC is getting better.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on May 16, 2011, 03:53:54 pm
Maryville recruits:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/general/news/details/3957/

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/general/news/details/3955/

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/general/news/details/3958/

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/general/news/details/3956/
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: coachwgh on November 23, 2011, 12:52:16 pm
Going to check out the LaGrange Lady Panthers tonight @ Emory.  Over/Under is 171
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: bballlover on December 12, 2011, 01:11:51 pm
Nice to see the recognition for the Piedmont Women On D3hoops after a big win over a ranked Greensboro team this weekend.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scotts on December 16, 2011, 08:51:01 pm
How will Maryville and Lagrange stack up against Piedmont this year? I wasnt too impressed with Piedmont until they beat Greensboro. Their schedule had looked pretty weak up to that point. Is Greensboro down this year or is Piedmont that good? From the stats I've seen, Wheeler has been dominating up to this point in the season. Looking forward to seeing how she does against a little tougher competition.
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 25, 2013, 10:20:47 am
Congratulations to Huntingdon!  I am happy for your program!
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: scottiedoug on February 27, 2013, 06:58:54 pm
The USASouth will benefit from Huntingdon's presence. 
Title: Re: GSAC
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 04, 2016, 10:18:46 pm
Final   UT-Tyler 83 UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs 64.