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Title: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueDevil Bob on December 30, 2005, 09:19:54 am
Welcome to the new home of WIAC Baseball discussion!
 
WIAC Baseball site links:

WIAC Baseball Homepage- www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html

UW-LaCrosse - www.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/

UW-Oshkosh - www.titans.uwosh.edu/baseball/index.html

UW-Platteville - www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/index.html

UW-Stevens Point - www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/index.htm

UW-Stout - www.uwstout.edu/athletics/mbsbhome.html

UW-Superior - www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/index.asp

UW-Whitewater - www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/index.cfm


Hyperlinks to schedules are listed below:

UW-Lacrosse -- http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/schedule/

UW-Oshkosh -- http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html

UW-Platteville -- http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2006schedule.html

UW-Stevens Point -- http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/schedule.htm

UW-Stout -- http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/mbsbsked06.html

UW-Superior -- http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/schedule.asp

UW-Whitewater --
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/schedule.cfm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueDevil Bob on December 30, 2005, 05:23:31 pm
2 WIAC teams in the preseason top 30 poll:

 # 6 Stevens Point

 #18 WhiteWater

 The boys of summer are getting ready for their turn.  :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on December 31, 2005, 04:19:20 pm
Nice!  A place to talk about baseball!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 03, 2006, 12:56:17 pm
I'm afraid WW lost too many seniors to be very good this year, unless they have some really good pitching coming in. It's about time Oshkosh took the top spot back.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 03, 2006, 02:22:01 pm
It's about time Oshkosh took the top spot back.

I don't think it will be this year.  UWO doesn't return a whole lot of talent.

UWO will need to have a great recruiting class if they expect to compete for a top spot, considering they lost their top three hitters (Jirschele, Yost, and Balcoa) and their top three pitchers as well (Huffman, Plucinski, and Hermus.) In all reality, UWO doesn't return anyone offensively who hit better than .297 (Schwebke.)  All in all, UWO will have a lot of UNPROVEN players on the field this spring, unless of course there are more transfers than just Stanke.

As for Point, they had a D3 All Region catcher transfer in by the name of Doug Coe.  He put up pretty good numbers for Lawrence in the Midwest conference, but I would guess he would see a little better pitching on a weekly basis in the WIAC compared to just Ripon from the Midwest.  He did play for the Wisconsin Woodchucks this summer however, so I'm sure he can swing the bat.

As far as D1 transfers, Point has one by the name of Travis Kempf, a pitcher from Illinois Chicago who went to HS at Kewaskum.  I really don't know much about him other than that he had five starts for UIC last season, and pitched for the Eau Claire Express of the Northwoods league this summer.

Point did have two transfers from Whitewater, P's Justin Bushong and Derek Pankow.  Bushong will not be eligible to play this season, due to conference transfer rules.  Pankow appeared in eight games for the Wrhawks last season and had an ERA of 13.03.

All in all I think that Point is the front runner this season for the simple reason that of the "Big 3" (Point, Whitwater, Oshkosh) they weren't hit as hard by graduation as the other two.  Depending on how the freshman develop, this conference could be as wide open as it has been in a LONG time.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on January 03, 2006, 03:27:19 pm
I would have to think that Stevens Point will be the SID's preseason favorite.  They returned a solid group and from cubs report it looks like they've picked up some good players to go with it.

Don't count WHITEWATER[/color] out of it.  We've also recruited well and should field a very competitive team though last year will be a tough act to follow.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueDevil Bob on January 10, 2006, 03:17:51 pm
I would have to think that Stevens Point will be the SID's preseason favorite. 

BW,
 Let's see about this years previous SID's preseason favorites:

 Football - LaCrosse
 Men's Basketball - Oshkosh
 Women's Basketball - Stout

  Time will tell about the basketball season, but right now these picks aren't looking too good.

 The SID's crystal ball may need a little Windex.  ;)



Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titansrus on January 10, 2006, 03:37:26 pm
How much do you guys feel Cal Stanke is gonna help Oshkosh this year?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 10, 2006, 03:54:28 pm
If Stanke stays healthy he could be a major force for the Titans this spring. He could be the guy that pushes them back into the national spotlight.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 11, 2006, 11:49:15 am
Exactly. All the recruits and transfers are great, but in the end, the team with the best pitching will win. Any other pitching transfers or recruits of note?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 11, 2006, 12:19:36 pm
I thought last season was a great example of great pitching beating great hitting.  Point was a stronger hitting team than Whitewater which explains how they were able to beat them 5 times.  BUT, when Whitewater absolutely needed to win a big one against Point, it was the superior Warhawk pitching staff who always came through.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 17, 2006, 04:16:28 pm
Appears UW Oshkosh is finally joining the rest of the conference and taking a trip down to a warm weather state (Florida) for their spring games, instead of their traditional trip to Tennessee, Arkansas, Minnesota or Kansas.  They have a number of tough games on their schedule, including Preseason #2 Cortland State, #22 Suffolk, #24 Wheaton (MA), and a DH with traditionally strong Carthage.  Here is a link to schedules for all of the WIAC schools:

http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/schedule/
http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html
http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2006schedule.html
http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/schedule.htm
http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/mbsbsked06.html
http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/schedule.asp
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/schedule.cfm

Whitewater is the only school without their Spring Trip opponents scheduled.  Can't wait for the season to get started!!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 17, 2006, 10:41:45 pm
WW is going to Arizona. Don't know who they are playing.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 18, 2006, 02:14:48 pm
I see that Platteville is playing their home games all over SW Wisconsin (and even in Iowa).  Are they remodeling their park or something?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Tezbaseball on January 22, 2006, 12:26:24 am
Interesting site. You can see by where a MLB player went to school.

http://baseballreference.com/schools/
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 25, 2006, 10:18:15 am
UWP is getting a new field, must not going to be ready in time for this season. Was looking at UWO roster from last season, and saw a couple pitchers I was familiar with from their highschool days. Definately not the caliber of players UWO has had in the past. Stanke is going to have to be dominant for them to win it this year, but having Bosio on the coaching staff has to be a big boost for recruiting, and helping with the pitching staff.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2006, 04:25:26 pm
I agree that Stanke needs to be a workhorse for the Titans. 

Why did he transfer back from Evansville? I know he only got 17 innings last year, but it is a waiting game when you are an underclassman.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Beater on February 07, 2006, 04:55:43 pm
Who do you think the 4th team to make the WIAC tournament is gonna be.....??
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 07, 2006, 06:35:08 pm
Who do you think the 4th team to make the WIAC tournament is gonna be.....??

Oshkosh, Whitewater, Stevens Point and Stout...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 08, 2006, 11:02:42 am
Who do you think the 4th team to make the WIAC tournament is gonna be.....??
I think the "Big 3" will be in again, (WHitewater, Stevens Point, and Oshkosh) but I think LaCrosse will make it instead of Stout after a one-year absence (Platteville in 2005.)  My reasoning, LaCrosse returns their top 2 pitchers from last season in Bemis and Zurbriggen, and that SHOULD be enough to give them a leg up on Stout, Platteville, and Superior.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball on February 08, 2006, 11:57:38 am
I wouldn't count la crosse to be out of contention, they are young but they have some really good talent on that team.  As well as a few guys who played in the northwoods league..
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball on February 08, 2006, 11:58:47 am
dont' coun't la crosse out yet
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Beater on February 08, 2006, 03:58:54 pm
If La Crosse can get some wins early and the young players buy into their coaches systerm they could be a dangerous team in the WIAC........ THey do return their top 2 pitchers and they have arguably the best position player in the conference in Andy  Podmolik..........
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 11:47:41 am
Can't wait for the Carthage/Oshkosh doubleheader over spring break, should be a great two games.  It will be very interesting to see what carthage does as far as pitching, seeing they play #2 Cortland state in a double header the day before.  Although I feel these trips are important to getting your season started off right, its hard to measure exactly where you are because you are starting some guys  on the mound who may rarely pitch the rest of the season. I would say if carthage could split with both of these teams, that would show that they are for real this year.  Its always cool to see Augie and Lechnir get together for some games. They are traditionally two of the top teams in the country, and I think they should play yearly.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 09, 2006, 01:26:30 pm
Can't wait for the Carthage/Oshkosh doubleheader over spring break, should be a great two games.  It will be very interesting to see what carthage does as far as pitching, seeing they play #2 Cortland state in a double header the day before. 
Oshkosh will also be playing Cortland State later on in the trip, so both teams should get a pretty good idea where they stand with their pitching depth.  UWO also plays preseason #22 Suffolk, (before Carthage) and #24 Wheaton (MA) (after Carthage) on their trip.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Beater on February 09, 2006, 03:49:51 pm
Did Whitewater get any big name transfers in.......???
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 10, 2006, 01:12:46 pm
I really don't see WW in the top 4 this year, unless they have some big time transfers or recruits, especially pitching.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: JUSTINTYEM on February 10, 2006, 01:43:28 pm
Dont forgot good OL' Patty Bloom may be getting some NCAA Sanctions against him for some Recruiting Violations of Doug Coe and someone else.This came from a reliable source that stated Bloom self reported in hopes of easing the sanctions.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 10, 2006, 03:36:55 pm
Dont forgot good OL' Patty Bloom may be getting some NCAA Sanctions against him for some Recruiting Violations of Doug Coe and someone else.This came from a reliable source that stated Bloom self reported in hopes of easing the sanctions.

I am sure many people do not know this, but Pat Bloom started his playing career at Carthage before moving to UWSP. He has done great things at Point in his short tenure.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2006, 06:24:18 pm
Check out this interesting list on the Carthage web page:

Do any of the teams listed surprise you?

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2006, 06:29:32 pm
Check out this interesting list on the Carthage web page:

Do any of the teams listed surprise you?

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325

Link into the NCAAs Winningest Programs on the left:
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 13, 2006, 11:23:36 am
2006 Recruits/Transfers[/u]

LaCrosse
Matt Sampson-1B/DH-Onalaska (Viterbo)
Aaron Aspenson-P-Seneca
Travis Schmitt-C-Beaver Dam
Derrick Minnig-P-Beaver Dam
Tyler Peterson-2B-Burnsville, MN
Joey Casper-OF-Onalaska
Andy Erickson-P-Racine Case

Oshkosh
Cal Stanke-P-Menasha (Evansville)
Peter Berg-OF-Janesville
Brad Keeling-P-Lakeland
Kyle Kopitzke-C-DePere
Casey Mumper-P-Kewaunee
Jordan Michakiewicz-P-Menasha St. Mary's Central

Stevens Point
Doug Coe-C-Appleton North (Lawrence)
Travis Kempf-P-Kewaskum (Illinois-Chicago)
Ryan Hopkins-P-Libertyville, IL (Illinois-Chicago)
Jeff Zielke-P-Watertown

Stout
Nick Klaren-P-Roseville, MN
John Englund-P-Savage, MN
Tony Velasquez-2B-Bloomington, MN
Sean Wilson-C-Woodbury, MN
Mike Ryan-P-Rice Lake
Andy Lorenzen-SS-Colfax
Joe Chittum-P-Wausau

Superior
Chris Adams-P-Hermantown, MN
R.J. Keur-P-Barnum, MN
Ben Lind-P/IF-Isanti, MN
Dean Loew-U-Askov, MN
Bryan Olson-P/3B-Superior
Bill Ryan-P-North St. Paul, MN
Rob Rybicki-P/OF-Eau Claire North
Paul Schlangen-U-Rice, MN
Rich Visger-P-Minong

Whitewater
No Transfers/Recruits Listed

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 14, 2006, 10:55:57 am
WW has their preseason sched/teams listed now. http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/schedule.cfm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bataviapete on February 14, 2006, 11:25:10 am
UWW Florida trip seems a little disapointing.  They only play 1 preseason ranked team in #16 Southern Maine.  Oshkosh plays Cortland #2, Suffolk #22, Wheaton Mass #25 as well as Carthage.  Carthage is also playing Cortland. 

When will UWW roster be posted, thay still have last years up?  When my son was at UWW's winter camp I thought I heard a mention of a transfer from SIU. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2006, 06:05:16 pm
Most teams have very little control of there spring trip schedule. They just announce that they are coming and and organizer sets up games with teams that will also be there. I know one year a team was matched up in FL with a team from their own conference... played them twice down south and four more times in conference, could have been more had the team qualified for the post-season tourney or NCAAs.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 16, 2006, 06:22:04 pm
I emailed the WW coach about posting the roster. He said it would be another 2-3 weeks before he made out his "traveling" roster. He said they had 4 srs. 4 jrs. and 30 freshemn and sophs. Guess we have to wait a while longer.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2006, 10:41:41 am
My email must have done some good. The new roster is out. 20 freshemn. Anyone klnow anything about them?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 20, 2006, 01:55:10 pm
I have never seen him play, but I always read about C/1B Mike Kuhn last year.  He had some ridiculous  numbers last year for Burlington Catholic Central, I'm pretty sure he hit over .500.  I saw Mcormick from Kenosha Tremper pitch once for the Kenosha Kings this summer, he throws fairly hard and could probably compete for a middle reliver type role.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: sportsguru90 on February 23, 2006, 09:00:04 am
I have read the post on Stevens Point's self-report to the NCAA for rule breaking,what else is new in the WIAC.
My son played in the WIAC and the top schools in the WIAC all stretch the rules. 
So please do not just call up Pat Bloom from Stevens Point.
And yes he has kept the winning tradition going at Stevens Point.
I think it should be a good race again in the WIAC but don't forget about Platteville, they have improved
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 23, 2006, 12:17:38 pm
What was done at Stevens point to break the rules, and are is the NCAA punishing the program at all for what was done?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 23, 2006, 12:40:22 pm
There was some problem with recruiting Coe from Lawrence. Haven't heard anything about any penalties yet.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 23, 2006, 03:54:00 pm
All programs stretch the rules... it is a matter of fact. Those that do not are generally doing one of two things... lying about it or losing games. I am not saying it is right to do it, but it is necessary in order to compete.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 23, 2006, 10:53:50 pm
Care to elaborate on the rule stretching being done?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 24, 2006, 10:40:38 am
I'm a little curious what you mean too. It is D-3 so there can't be all the under the table money type stuff going on. I'm guessing you mean maybe practicing more than is allowed, or somehow getting a player eligible who shouldn't be, or something along those lines. I wish Carthage could have"bent the rules" to get that guy eligible this year, hopefully they can overcome that loss.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 24, 2006, 11:19:15 am
You would be amazed at the "jobs" players are given... even at the small schools. I have heard of a few cases where players were paid ridiculous amounts of money to shovel small sidewalks for alumni... or to cut the lawn of an alum.

And when it comes to recruiting, many coaches "bend" the rules and use friends of the recruit who are already in the program to lure them away from their current program.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 24, 2006, 01:41:36 pm
"I have heard of" doesn't quite get the job done when you make observations like you have. Either you know or you don't. Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling you a liar, just that when you make accusations like that, you need to be able to back them up.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 24, 2006, 03:39:45 pm
I know for a fact that it happened at a junior college I coached at.... and I have spoken with alums at other schools that admit to "overpaying" a student-athlete to do a simple job.

Forgive me if I do not give names.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pastprime on February 24, 2006, 08:55:00 pm
Well, I know for a FACT it happens.  I have first hand knowledge of just one example but I also do not want to divulge what or how this particular way is done.  I know the people personally who where able to take advantage of this type of financial gain.  I think this is wrong but am in a catch 22 and don't want to say anything.  I don't know if ALL teams in ALL sports do this kind of thing.  But I'm not ignorant to the fact that there are SOME schools and SOME sports that do find ways to give some players some sort of extra help financially. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 27, 2006, 12:57:17 pm
Just curious, would it be illegal for me to hire a D3 athlete to work in my yard and pay him or her $20 an hour?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 27, 2006, 01:38:28 pm
I have no idea if it would be illegal, but I'm sure it happens a lot. These players need some type of spending money in college. Not everyone can just ask Mom and Dad for money whenever they need it. I know D-1 athletes aren't supposed to have jobs, I'm not sure about D-3. Also, does anyone know if D-1 guys aren't supposed to have jobs only during the season of the sport they play, or year round?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: JUSTINTYEM on February 27, 2006, 03:03:35 pm
Last i knew(10 years ago) in D-1 it all depended on your scolly level ie:Fully,parial, and so on.I know for a "FACT" full scolly athletes couldnt work.But they did recieve money(coupons) for meals to be used on campus.I knew some partial scolly athletes that had part-tie jobs.But the rules may have changed since then.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 28, 2006, 06:39:55 am
D3 athletes can and most do have jobs. That's why I can't see someone paying them to do odd jobs could be against any rules. What difference if they work at McDonalds, or doing yard work for someone? I assume you guys are talking about something much different that that? Shoveling someones sidewalk while they are in Florida for the winter and getting paid $50 a week wouldn't amount to a violation in my opinion.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 28, 2006, 08:54:27 am
I agree. If someone wants to pay an athelte to do work, there shouldn't be a problem with that. Plus, if it  wasn't supposed to be allowed, I don't think the NCAA monitors too closely what D-3 athletes do outside of sports! ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 28, 2006, 12:05:35 pm
Just curious, would it be illegal for me to hire a D3 athlete to work in my yard and pay him or her $20 an hour?
It could be.  If the NCAA or the school came investigating you would have to show why $20/hour was not an excessive amount.  (It's the going rate in the neighborhood, I pay other laborers the same rate, my yard is really big, etc.).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 05, 2006, 02:01:34 am
First f all division theree athletes can have jobs for doing anything. It could be walking the big boosters dog, or just getting the little old lady ion the wheelchair her mail everyday because she can't.
As fas as illegal recruiting in terms of coaches telling joe from Greenfield to talk to bobby from greenfield to come to UW Whitewater or where ever nothing is illegal about that.
This is how most division three and all divisions for that matter recruit. They use people in the program from school X to recruit good players to their school from school X.
So nothing is illegal about that. I do know that at Division one though you can not have alumni former players come in and talk to potential student athletes. USC
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 05, 2006, 02:05:19 am
USC did this and they then realized that this was a violation of NCAA rules,and reported themselves or something to that anture.
As far as rules on recruiting and stuff at division three. Since no one really commits or anything and their are no letters of intent to sign. I do not believe there are a lot of rules to follow.
I am not an expert so I maybe wrong on that. However havving bobby talk to Joe from Podunk high where bobby went is not illegal,and niether is allowing student athletes to get paid,as long as they do the work, but thats how it is for everyone.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 05, 2006, 11:46:46 am
First f all division theree athletes can have jobs for doing anything. It could be walking the big boosters dog, or just getting the little old lady ion the wheelchair her mail everyday because she can't.
As fas as illegal recruiting in terms of coaches telling joe from Greenfield to talk to bobby from greenfield to come to UW Whitewater or where ever nothing is illegal about that.
This is how most division three and all divisions for that matter recruit. They use people in the program from school X to recruit good players to their school from school X.
So nothing is illegal about that. I do know that at Division one though you can not have alumni former players come in and talk to potential student athletes. USC

Geez... mix in a spellcheck once in a while. You may have had good points, but it was so poorly constructed that I doubt anyone could choke their way through it. I am not saying that as an insult, but I am trying to make sure your point gets heard. Also, do not be afraid of the capital letters. They are your friend.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 05, 2006, 05:31:32 pm
Thanks Big Poppa.
Maybe I shouldn't drink while I am typing.
My point is that it's not illegal to have kids recruits kids from their high schools,and it is not illegal for kids to work for people as long as it's a legit job at the d3 level.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 06, 2006, 01:01:33 am
Thanks Big Poppa.
Maybe I shouldn't drink while I am typing.
My point is that it's not illegal to have kids recruits kids from their high schools,and it is not illegal for kids to work for people as long as it's a legit job at the d3 level.

I agree that players are the best recruiters for a program. Who are recruits going to trust more than their own friends?!!

In regards to drinking while typing... I think it should be a pre-requisite to esure the truth comes out...

"en vino veritas."
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 06, 2006, 08:56:45 am
nunc est bibendum
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on March 09, 2006, 01:38:19 pm
I see O'factor has made it over to the baseball board.  give it time he will make u crazy
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 09, 2006, 01:41:54 pm
nunc est bibendum

"It appears that Mr. Ringo is an educated man like myself... now I really hate him."

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainKurt on March 10, 2006, 08:22:30 am
O'Reilly!!  You can't hide from us!!



O'Reilly!! Yuo ca'nt hdie frum uss!!!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 13, 2006, 11:10:57 am
Kart
Your right I can't hide from you, but I am staying off the football board for a while.
All I want to know is what is Doug Henry former UW Whitewater pitching coach up to. He was fired after the Brawl at Oshkosh a couple years ago. I'll never forget that as the coach from oshkosh shouted out"GO GET HIM" after their player got accidently hit in the head, and the brawl was on.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2006, 02:35:16 pm
I'll never forget that as the coach from oshkosh shouted out"GO GET HIM" after their player got accidently hit in the head, and the brawl was on.
I see it doesn't matter the sport, football, baseball, etc.. you aren't one for stating the facts.  You should really get a clue waht is going on before you spout of... ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 13, 2006, 02:46:13 pm
I believe what I stated are he facts as I was there that day, and was told exactly what the oshkosh coach said as there were UWW standing near the oshkosh dugout. :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 03:54:27 pm
Kart
Your right I can't hide from you, but I am staying off the football board for a while.
All I want to know is what is Doug Henry former UW Whitewater pitching coach up to. He was fired after the Brawl at Oshkosh a couple years ago. I'll never forget that as the coach from oshkosh shouted out"GO GET HIM" after their player got accidently hit in the head, and the brawl was on.


Hey rock... a word of advice is to not state things about certain people that could be binding in a court of law. "GO GET HIM" could have legal ramifications if that coach were to press charges of libel against you, but I can conclude from your eloquent writings that you must be intelligent enough to understand this(I hoppe you caught my sarcasm).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on March 13, 2006, 03:57:37 pm
Big Poppas,
I do totally underestand what you are saying. I am just repeating what was told to me that the Oshkosh coach said. This is second hand information. Iwas not near the oshkosh dugout.
Whether he said it or not is some what irrelevant,as the warhawks won most of if not all of the games that year against the titans. I think the oshkosh whitewater baseball rivalry is the biggest rivalry in the WIAC.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 03:58:22 pm
I believe what I stated are he facts as I was there that day, and was told exactly what the oshkosh coach said as there were UWW standing near the oshkosh dugout. :)

Just because you were there does not mean that you heard what was said. The simple fact that you were "told" what the coach allegedly said should allow us to rule you out as a credible witness to the incident.
Also, if this is the type of writing students are learning at Whitewater I fear for the future of the University. Mix in a spell check once in a while.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2006, 04:13:14 pm
Would it matter if someone was near the dugout??  Last time I checked UWO was up to bat when Shere got hit, so wouldn't the coach be in the 3rd Base coaches box and not the dugout??  Either the coach yelled (and there would be more people hear to support your statemant) or your informant has some great hearing to be able to hear what was said probably roughly 40-50 feet away? 

Either way it is something that happened almost two years ago, so why bring it back up??
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 04:18:50 pm
Would it matter if someone was near the dugout??  Last time I checked UWO was up to bat when Shere got hit, so wouldn't the coach be in the 3rd Base coaches box??  Either the coach yelled or your informant has some great hearing to be able to hear what was said probably roughly 40-50 feet away? 

Either way it is something that happened almost two years ago, so why bring it back up??

Well said... some people just fixate on things they cannot change... or really want to be a part of. It's basic psychology in its purest form.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2006, 04:25:26 pm
Interesting conversation in here! ;) Any word on how Oshkosh is doing? Carthage is 3-1, and plays a DH against the titans Wednesday. This game is a great rivalry, but don't get mixed up, Augie and Lechnir get along just fine. Steve Coughlin (Sophmore transfer from Oshkosh) starts in right field and has batted clean up and in the 5 hole for the Redmen this year. Not bad for someone Oshkosh turned into a pitcher last year and wouldn't let him swing a bat. Should be a great two games. Carthage has had the bragging rights the last two years, Oshkosh has a chance to earn some. Olson and Evosovich (Carthage's 1 and 2 starters) both threw complete games Saturday, so I don't know if Carthage will throw them on 3 days rest or not. Finally, any significant injuries for the Titans? Chris Sadjak is the only major one for the Redmen. He is out another 2-3 weeks, and should be one of the Redmen's top run producers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 04:30:47 pm
I would bet that Augie turns his #1 and #2 loose on Wednesday against Oshkosh. It should be a good matchup of two programs with solid pitching. I expect a low scoring set of games.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2006, 04:32:33 pm
UWO is 2-2.  They dropped their first two games (Wittenberg and #22 Suffolk) in extra innings (12 and 10 innings repectively.)  Stanke (UWO's #1 and transfer from D1 Evansville) threw against Suffolk giving up six runs in 8 innings of work.  Gowey (UWO's #2) took the loss giving up 3 runs in the 10th.

UWO responded by sweeping Ohio Wesleyan yesterday, and are off until their DH with Carthage on Wednesday.  

These ARE NOT your fathers Titans.  As of now, they are starting 6 freshman.  The staff IS NOT very deep, typically a strength for UWO.  My guess is if Carthage throws their #1 and #2 UWO would be happy with a split.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 04:35:58 pm
Stanke is the real deal though. I watch him throw n=many time in high school and he just gets it done. I think that will be a great match-up for Carthage. They usually handle the hard-throwers quite well.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2006, 05:40:21 pm
I think both teamswould be satisfied with a split, just as long as they don't get swept by an in-state rival! I agree that chances are it will be two low scoring games. With that said, the teams will be all jacked up and might just go off and hit the snot out of the ball. I wasn't aware that oshkosh is starting 6 freshman! I assume they must be pretty darn good ball players to be starting there as freshman. If they are successful this year, look out the next 3 years after they get a year of college baseball experience under their belts.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 13, 2006, 06:22:32 pm
I wasn't aware that oshkosh is starting 6 freshman! I assume they must be pretty darn good ball players to be starting there as freshman.
I think part of it has to do with the fact that the upperclassmen that played last year didn't come back, and the ones that did, didn't produce enough last year (not one starter returning had a BA over .297) to give the coaching staff a whole lot of faith in them.  The majority ot the offensive production came from Jirschele, Yost, Perdomo and Balcoa, three seniors and a junior who didn't return.  (This is just MY observation.) 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2006, 09:23:34 pm
Carthage beats #2 Cortland State 4-2 on Tuesday setting up a great showdown with UW-Oshkosh on Wednesday afternoon.

Both teams seem to be seeking identity and this could be the day that pushes each of them in the direction they are headed.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2006, 04:37:45 pm
UW-Oshkosh down to Carthage 2-0 in the 3rd inning...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2006, 06:44:05 pm
Final of game 1: Carthage- 10, Oshkosh- 1
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 16, 2006, 08:42:49 am
Oshkosh took the night cap 5-4 in ten innings. Carthage blew a 4-1 lead in the 7th inning (it was a 7 inning game.) As expected, a great DH between two good teams
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on March 23, 2006, 02:42:39 pm
Who are the top pitchers in the league this year?

With 2 mlb'ers leavin WW who will pick up that slack?

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 24, 2006, 09:05:50 am
Same thing as last year. their 2 top pitchers Endl and Callahan went pro, and Reinhard and Tommy stepped up. Can they do it again?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2006, 11:41:57 am
Finally the WARHAWKS[/color] take to the diamond and officially kick off the 2006 campaign.  They did it the right way too with a pair of wins 4-1, 13-2 over Augsburg.  In the first game Mike Jacobson went five innings as the HAWKS[/color] scored three runs in the bottom of the fifth for the 4-1 victory.  Eddie Adamson and Matt Delong collected two hits apiece.  In game two Andy Keller went five innings for the win and combined with Jay Grutzmacher to four hit Augusburg.  Greg Harder and Jason Rutz led the 14 hit  WARHAWK[/color] attack with three hits apiece. 

The WARHAWKS[/color] will play a pair of  nine inning games today. The first  vs North Central followed by John Hopkins.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 24, 2006, 12:31:45 pm
Do you know if Kuhn (Freshman from Burlington Catholic Central) has a chance to see any playing time. I know he was one of the top D-3 recruits around after putting up amazing numbers his senior year in high school.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 24, 2006, 02:20:33 pm
Same thing as last year. their 2 top pitchers Endl and Callahan went pro, and Reinhard and Tommy stepped up. Can they do it again?
Their is a big difference however....  Reinhard was 8-1 with a 3.05 ERA in 2004, while Tomasiewicz was 10-0 as a Freshman in 2003 and 4-4 in 2004.  Both those guys had proven they could win.  There isn't anyone like that for this years Warhawks.  The Warhawks don't return a pitcher who had more than 4 decisions last year (Riek 2-2) and as we all saw last year, PITCHING wins Championships.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 24, 2006, 02:23:17 pm
Do you know if Kuhn (Freshman from Burlington Catholic Central) has a chance to see any playing time. I know he was one of the top D-3 recruits around after putting up amazing numbers his senior year in high school.
It appears he would be #3 on the depth chart at Catcher, as Whitewater has played two other catchers in their first 2 games (Gorman and Deck.)  I suppose we will have to wait how everything plays out, to see if he will get any time at 1B.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2006, 11:42:17 am
WARHAWKS[/color] stumble some and go 1-2 over the weekend losing to North Central 11-8 and John Hopkins 9-5 on Friday and beating Southern Maine 8-6 on Saturday.  Kuhn has not played in any of the games thus far.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 27, 2006, 01:48:18 pm
Thanks for the info. on Kuhn. Wow, a kid who can swing the bat like he can, he must have some studs in front of him
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 29, 2006, 03:05:35 pm
Thought some WIAC fans might be interested in this. I was watching a brewers spring training game monday night and Vinny Rottino flied out deep to end the game. Rottino is a UW-Lacrosse grad, and grew up in Racine, WI. He is currently hitting .455 during spring training games, and is playing in triple A this year. The announcers said this undrafted kid will definately be a major leaguer in the near future!! Vinny Works out at Carthage College all winter long and hits live against their pitchers as well as helps out with Christmas baseball camps. He is one of the nicest guys I've met and nobody works harder. He was in the weight room daily at 7 a.m. with Scott Roehl (Double A pitcher in the cleveland system from Kenosha) every day.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 29, 2006, 03:35:40 pm
badgerwarhawk-
Do you happen to know who is doing the stats out in Arizona for the baseball team?  I would hope it isn't the SID.  If you talk to the SID have him look over a couple of the games, as I believe there are a few games that are incorrect.  

Greg Riek shouldn't have picked up the loss yesterday, as the starter gave up 6 runs.  

Also, in the 9th inning against Southern Maine, three of the four runs Riek gave up should have been Earned runs instead of Unearned as you can't assume a double play on the ground ball that Stewart made an error on.  

I haven't looked at all the games that closely, but those two were pretty obvious to even the average fan.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 29, 2006, 04:27:39 pm
Who are you?  Greg Riek's daddy?   ;D

Just kidding.  The stats I see on the UWW web site don't reflect the errors you are talking about, so it looks like the problems are being corrected.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 29, 2006, 05:05:31 pm
Sorry, I haven't any idea who's keeping stats in Arizona.   I doubt it's the SID.  Personally the only stat I worry about is wins and losses and that ain't going that well right now. 

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2006, 09:44:40 am
Just kidding.  The stats I see on the UWW web site don't reflect the errors you are talking about, so it looks like the problems are being corrected.
Are you sure....  He is still labeled the losing pitcher in the Gustavus Adolphus boxscore, and the runs against Southern Maine are still listed as unearned.   The season stats indicate the same thing.

http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/gusadg1.htm
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/smg1.htm
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/teamcume.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 30, 2006, 10:39:28 am
Ah, I misread your post.  Yes, I see the discrepencies you are talking about.

In the Southern Maine game however, I count only two earned runs for Riek.

In the 8th, he's responsible for Vardaro's run. (ER: Vardaro)

In the 9th, we assume the Vadaro is out without the error by 3B, and it remains 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs (benefit of the doubt always goes to the pitcher).  Burleson's single then would have scored Lemieux from third anyway, so that's earned.  Then, Borque's fly to CF should have been the third out of the inning, so all the other runs wold be unearned. (ER: Lemieux, UE: Pike, D'Andrea, Vardaro)

It's also kind of odd to credit two RBI's to Vardaro on the play with the error by the third baseman.  That assumes that BOTH runners would have scored without benefit of the error.  That seems unlikely.

If you like baseball scorekeeping stuff, check out http://www.baseballscorecard.com  There's a message board there, and they do these kinds of things all the time.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2006, 10:53:06 am
I was just on that site JB.  Excellent, if baseball scoring is what you're interested in.

Whoever it was that was asking about Mike Kuhn, he saw the field for the first time yesterday as a back up catcher and walked his only time at bat.   WARHAWKS[/color] creep over .500 at 5-4 with a 12-5 win over Williams College.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 30, 2006, 12:17:50 pm
Thanks for the info on Kuhn. Do you know what year the guy starting ahead of him is?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2006, 12:45:23 pm
In the Southern Maine game however, I count only two earned runs for Riek.

In the 8th, he's responsible for Vardaro's run. (ER: Vardaro)

In the 9th, we assume the Vadaro is out without the error by 3B, and it remains 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs (benefit of the doubt always goes to the pitcher).  Burleson's single then would have scored Lemieux from third anyway, so that's earned.  Then, Borque's fly to CF should have been the third out of the inning, so all the other runs wold be unearned. (ER: Lemieux, UE: Pike, D'Andrea, Vardaro)

It's also kind of odd to credit two RBI's to Vardaro on the play with the error by the third baseman.  That assumes that BOTH runners would have scored without benefit of the error.  That seems unlikely.
JB-
8th inning-Correct, 1 Earned run for Riek
9th Inning-Unsure

Here is how I see it.  Please correct me if I have something wrong.

-Bases Loaded One Out (Single, Double, HBP)
-Next Batter-E5-Scorer assumes you get the out at first, so now 2nd and 3rd, run scored-(Earned) Two Outs
Next Batter-Single-Run Scores (Earned) 1st and 3rd Two Outs
Next Batter-F8-Three Outs

That would be 2 Earned in the 9th, for 3 ER total in his appearance correct??
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2006, 12:50:02 pm
Thanks for the info on Kuhn. Do you know what year the guy starting ahead of him is?
Bill Gorman is a Junior, however two other Catchers (Matt Millar and Jon Deck) have been seeing significant playing time (2 Starts each) ahead of Kuhn.  Millar is a Sophomore and Deck is a Junior.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 30, 2006, 01:11:28 pm
Thanks. Either Kuhn played in a pretty poor conference in high school, or whitewater just has some amazing catchers. Like I said, I've never seen him play, but he was always in the Kenosha paper, hit over .500, and was supposed to be one of the top hitters in the state. Any word on how other teams from the WIAC are doing? I saw Whitewater is 5-4, how about some other records?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 30, 2006, 02:17:39 pm

JB-
8th inning-Correct, 1 Earned run for Riek
9th Inning-Unsure

Here is how I see it.  Please correct me if I have something wrong.

-Bases Loaded One Out (Single, Double, HBP)
-Next Batter-E5-Scorer assumes you get the out at first, so now 2nd and 3rd, run scored-(Earned) Two Outs
Next Batter-Single-Run Scores (Earned) 1st and 3rd Two Outs
Next Batter-F8-Three Outs

That would be 2 Earned in the 9th, for 3 ER total in his appearance correct??
I overlooked the HBP.  I'm getting sloppy in my old age.

On the E5 play you would have to see it to know for sure.  My orginal assumption was the fielder would have taken the lead runner out at home plate, thus leaving the bases loaded.  If the ball was a slow roller and the only possible play was at first, then I might score it like you did.  And considering that they were holding a lead in the ninth, it might be reasonable to assume the fielder would take the "sure" out at first.

This is one of those where you have to see it to know for sure.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 03, 2006, 09:57:44 pm
Came across an intersting stat today when going through the Conference stats for some of the WIAC teams. 

Through 14 games, UW Oshkosh batters have taken 39 HBP's this season compared to their pitchers giving up 37 BB's.

Just thought it was an interesting stat you probably won't see too often so I thought I would share it. :-\
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 10:01:21 am
Good to see that UW-Superior is right in mid-season form.   ;)  66-4 total score over four games.  Yikes.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 10:43:08 am
I'll try to do a weekly update through the season just to keep conversation flowing.  I'll focus on the WIAC games, because I don't want to get carried away with keeping up with everything.

UW-Stout 10, UW-La Crosse 6
UW-La Crosse 16, UW-Stout 0 (7 innings)
UW-Stout 15, UW-La Crosse 10
UW-Stout 6, UW-La Crosse 2

UW-Oshkosh 22, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 12, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 10, UW-Superior 1
UW-Oshkosh 22, UW-Superior 1 (7 innings)

UW-Stevens Point 7, UW-Platteville 2
UW-Stevens Point 10, UW-Platteville 0 (7 innings)
UW-Stevens Point 15, UW-Platteville 5 (8 innings)
Game 4 - Cancelled (Rain)

Standings
OSH  4-0
SP  3-0
ST  3-1
WW  0-0
LC  1-3
PLT  0-3
SUP  0-4
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 11:45:07 am
Can Whitewater get back on track?? Are they suffering a National Title hangover? What's the deal?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 04, 2006, 12:32:56 pm
We'll see tomorrow. Suposed to be a nice day too.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 12:44:30 pm
I wouldn't call it National Title hangover.  I think it's safe to say that they're simply not the same team, and don't have the same talent.  I think it's going to be mid-season before you see them really find their identity.

Compare 2006 Whitewater Baseball to the 2005-06 Stevens Point Men's Basketball team.  Defending national champs, but lost the main players.  Struggled early, expecially in non-conference games while they were trying to get it together.  But, by mid-season, were playing very well, finished a strong third place and became a dangerous postseason team.  I could see Warhawk baseball following the same trend this year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 04, 2006, 01:39:18 pm
UW-Oshkosh 22, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 12, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 10, UW-Superior 1
Not being knit-picky, but you forget the 22-1 finale on Monday. ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 04, 2006, 01:41:31 pm
I know oshkosh is a solid ball club, but those 4 scores are just sick. Talk about helping out team ERA, batting average, runs scored per game... etc. I'm assuming Superior is the worst team in the conference, BY FAR
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 04, 2006, 01:52:55 pm
I could see Warhawk baseball following the same trend this year.
I have a feeling that might not happen for one simple reason...... PITCHING.  This is probably the weakest staff Whitewater has had in the last 5 years.  At the same time, the WIAC overall pitching is pretty weak this year.  You don't really see many guys out there who are just going to stuff it down your throat like you have seen in the last 10 years.  Gone are the days of Chris Simonson, Craig Glysch, Brady Endl, Andy Kimball, Andy Elskamp, etc.. (just to name a few.)  The closest thing you have this year is Jordan Zimmerman, Matt Zurbriggen and possibly Cal Stanke.  I have a feeling there won't be too many 3-2 or 4-3 games no matter what teams are playing.  

Maybe I am wrong, but this sure looks to be a high-scoring confernece season, which doesn't bode well for much WIAC post-season success this year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 04, 2006, 01:56:23 pm
I know oshkosh is a solid ball club, but those 4 scores are just sick. Talk about helping out team ERA, batting average, runs scored per game... etc. I'm assuming Superior is the worst team in the conference, BY FAR
Probably, but they did split a DH with CCIW's North Central, winning 2-1 and losing 5-4.  Where would you put North Central in terms of the CCIW?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 04, 2006, 02:16:13 pm
UW-Oshkosh 22, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 12, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)
UW-Oshkosh 10, UW-Superior 1
Not being knit-picky, but you forget the 22-1 finale on Monday. ;)
Thanks for the catch.  I added it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 04:32:06 pm
I know oshkosh is a solid ball club, but those 4 scores are just sick. Talk about helping out team ERA, batting average, runs scored per game... etc. I'm assuming Superior is the worst team in the conference, BY FAR
Probably, but they did split a DH with CCIW's North Central, winning 2-1 and losing 5-4.  Where would you put North Central in terms of the CCIW?

North Central will finish in the middle to bottom of the CCIW this year...only an outside shot at the conference tourney. It is always tough to compare teams based on common opponents though.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 04, 2006, 05:53:05 pm
NC is currently 4-11 and 0-3 in conference after getting swept by carthage. I would guess they'll finish this year in  6th or 7th out of the 8 teams. North Park has always been in last and they swept their first 3 game series in conference in 8 years over millikin, so North Central should finish ahead of Millikin and possibly North Park
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2006, 10:39:11 pm
The league has gone 30-43 in nonconfernce play so far. 

I'm not sure anyone is all that good this year. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 05, 2006, 09:52:55 am
The league has gone 30-43 in nonconfernce play so far. 

I'm not sure anyone is all that good this year. 
I assume that means you are agreeing with what I said earlier, that the WIAC will struggle in post-season play this season.........
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 05, 2006, 12:20:07 pm
I would never count a WIAC team out in the postseason. The conference season certainly toughens the top few teams up for the postseason.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2006, 09:37:42 pm
The league has gone 30-43 in nonconfernce play so far. 

I'm not sure anyone is all that good this year. 
I assume that means you are agreeing with what I said earlier, that the WIAC will struggle in post-season play this season.........



I would say that if the post season were played now, yes, they'd struggle. Fortunately it's not. 

WARHAWKS[/color] split with Oshkosh.  WHITEWATER[/color] blows two, one run leads in game one and Oshkosh pounds the heck out of the relief staff for a 10-4 win.  Game two is the opposite.  WARHAWKS[/color] jump on top 3-0.  Titan get back to within a run but WHITEWATER[/color] has a six run inning, the pitching holds up and they hang a 13-4 loss on Oshkosh.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Downtown on April 05, 2006, 10:22:41 pm
First, Superior would have a hard time winning the WIAA Championship, little lone the WIAC.

Second, I agree with BadgerWarhawk, I dunno know if anyone is really that good right now. This Oshkosh team is not better then last year's bunch, and that team finished 14-10. They are above average offensively, they have pretty decent pitching, but they are not a good fielding team whatsoever.

Splitting with Whitewater is good for them, and there chances of winning conference. But in all reality, I think everyone has a good shot in the first 6 WIAC games, if 4 of them are against Superior...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 05, 2006, 10:52:00 pm
This Oshkosh team is not better then last year's bunch, and that team finished 14-10. They are above average offensively, they have pretty decent pitching, but they are not a good fielding team whatsoever.
However, I believe this team has the potential to be better than last years.  When you are starting 5 or 6 freshmen sometimes, there is a good chance they are going to improve as the season goes on.  Outside of Jirschele and Yost, you didn't have anyone finish with a BA over .300 last season.  There is a reason there are a lot of new faces around Oshkosh this year.  Chances are you won't see two regular starters not playing in the Conference Tournament this season (assuming they qualify) like you did last year (Perdomo and Balcoa.) 

As far as "decent" pitching, Ziegler is about the only guy that has shown much.  Their staff isn't very deep, and it still remains to be seen what type of affect Stanke is going to have.  If you call that "decent" I would hate to see what you consider a "strong" staff.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2006, 12:16:33 am
First, Superior would have a hard time winning the WIAA Championship, little lone the WIAC.

Just FYI, the phrase is "let alone" -- not "little lone."
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueDevil Bob on April 06, 2006, 07:54:34 am
First, Superior would have a hard time winning the WIAA Championship, little lone the WIAC.

Just FYI, the phrase is "let alone" -- not "little lone."

Maybe Downtown meant they were a little lonely since they have to travel so damn far everytime they play a conference away game.  ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 06, 2006, 11:44:27 am
April 5th
UW-La Crosse 3, UW-Platteville 1
UW-La Crosse 8, UW-Platteville 6

UW-Oshkosh 10, UW-Whitewater 4
UW-Whitewater 13, UW-Oshkosh 4

UW-Stevens Point 15, UW-Stout 5 (7 innings)
UW-Stevens Point 7, UW-Stout 2

Standings:
SP:  5-0
OSH:  5-1
LC:  3-3
ST:  3-3
WW:  1-1
SUP:  0-4
PLT:  0-5
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on April 06, 2006, 04:07:44 pm
Can anyone elaborate on the first UWW vs. Slopgosh game?  Last I heard it was 3-3 in the 6th and what was the story from there?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2006, 09:21:04 pm
 WHITEWATER[/color] scored in the sixth and it was 4-3 after 7..  The  WW[/color] starter was tiring and we made a pitching change.  He kept falling behind the hitters and Oshkosh jumped on him and his successor for 8 hits and 7 runs over the last two innings. Their pitcher kept the ball down, they made the defensive plays and we couldn't get anything going against him.  That's the gist of it. 

We did pretty much the same thing to them in game two turning a close game into a blow out with a 6 run inning and pounding on their relief staff. 

The box scores on our website include a play by play so you can read what happened if you want to.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueDevil Bob on April 09, 2006, 09:29:58 am
I attended both games Saturday. BW, where were you?  ;)

Some sloppy baseball by the Devils kept them from getting a win. Against Whitewater a team just can't do things to beat themselves and expect a chance to win.

Example: In game 2 during a mid-game mini rally, Stout found themselves with 2 base runners on 3rd base.  :-[

Sure was nice to watch some baseball. Maybe the Devils can get it done today.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2006, 09:48:51 pm
No, BDB, I wasn't in Stout this weekend.  Actually I was in Phoenix basking in 86 degree weather and hangin by the hotel pool.  Watched a little Brewer/Diamondback action on the local tv.   Saw the BADGER[/color] hockey win at a sportsbar called the Tilted Kilt, a hooters spin off with a Scottish flair.  If you're ever in Phoenix I highly recommend it.  :D 

WARHAWKS[/color] get both Sunday games too.   In game one they rally from a 2-0 to go up 7-2 before Stout scores 3 in the bottom of the eighth for a 7-5 final.   Stout has 4 errors in that one but we weren't exactly sterling with 3 ourselves. 

In game two the WARHAWKS[/color] jump on top 7-0 and cruise to a 10-4 win. 

Excellent weekend for the WARHAWKS[/color].  We really needed to take all four of these and the mission was accomplished. 


Hats off to LaCrosse who takes 3 of 4 from pre-season favorite Stevens Point.   Nice job Eagle and thanks. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 10, 2006, 10:39:19 am
April 8-9
UW-La Crosse 6, UW-Stevens Point 2
UW-La Crosse 9, UW-Stevens Point 6
UW-Stevens Point 14, UW-La Crosse 1 (7 innings)
UW-La Crosse 5, UW-Stevens Point 2

UW-Platteville 8, UW-Superior 0
UW-Platteville 11, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Platteville 11, UW-Superior 0 (7 innings)
UW-Platteville 11, UW-Superior 1 (7 innings)

UW-Whitewater 12, UW-Stout 10
UW-Whitewater 11, UW-Stout 4
UW-Whitewater 7, UW-Stout 5
UW-Whitewater 10, UW-Stout 4

Standings
OSH  5-1
WW  5-1
SP    6-3
LC    6-4
PLT   4-5
ST    3-7
SUP  0-8

Great weekend for the Eagles and a blow to the Pointers.  That cancelled game against Platteville might come back to haunt Point at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 11, 2006, 06:14:37 pm
Could someone tell me how far you have to walk to get to the stands at the new UWO field. I've got a bad knee and can't go too far. Thanks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 13, 2006, 09:49:46 pm
WARHAWKS[/color] take both ends of today's doublehitter 12-2 in seven and 9-3 in game two.  Jacobson throws a 2 hitter with 9 Ks and  Nick Teach, Eddie Adamson and Bill Gorman total 10 rbi in the first one.  Adam Dominick goes 6.2 giving up three runs and Greg Riek and Jay Grutzmacher finish things up in game two.  Adamson drives in three more. 

LaCrosse got a split with Oshkosh so the WARHAWKS[/color] moved into sole possession of first place in the conference standings but, obviously, there's a long way to go yet.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2006, 12:07:35 pm
WARHAWKS[/COLOR] and Platteville split yesterday's doublehitter with Platteville rallying from an 11-4 deficit after 5 complete to score 10 runs against the relief pitchers and pull out the win 14-13.  Base on balls and errors killed us in that one. 

The Pioneer took the early lead 2-0 in game two but WHITEWATER[/color] plated five runs in the second inning to go ahead 5-2.  The Pioneer rallied for three in the third to tie the game 5-5 but the WARHAWKS[/color]  bats came alive and they got five strong innings of relief from a freshman for the 11-5 win.

I will never mention our position in the standings again until the season is completed.  Sheeze, what the hell was I thinking.   

Oshkosh takes two from LaCrosse to win 3 of their 4 games.  Stout sweeps Superior on both days.  Stevens Point was idle.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on April 16, 2006, 02:47:30 pm
Quite a few folks in Appleton at the 2005 NCAA tourney thought that Whitewater may have been the worst championship team in NCAA history.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2006, 03:23:56 pm
Quite a few folks in Appleton at the 2005 NCAA tourney thought that Whitewater may have been the worst championship team in NCAA history.



Yeah, and that is like the old joke.

"Do you what they call the guy who graduated last in his class in medical school?"

"Doctor!" :D  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 16, 2006, 06:18:32 pm
Yeah, and that is like the old joke.

"Do you what they call the guy who graduated last in his class in medical school?"

"Doctor!" :D  ;D  ;)

That's not from personal experience, right? :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2006, 08:10:19 pm
Quite a few folks in Appleton at the 2005 NCAA tourney thought that Whitewater may have been the worst championship team in NCAA history.




ROTFLMFAO   

It makes one wonder what they would have thought of either Oshkosh or Lawrence if they'd had a chance to see them. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2006, 09:48:36 pm
Yeah, and that is like the old joke.

"Do you what they call the guy who graduated last in his class in medical school?"

"Doctor!" :D  ;D  ;)

That's not from personal experience, right? :)

 :D :D :D :D :D :D 8)

You are correct!  It is not from personal experience!  But I know who he was! ;)

 :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 17, 2006, 10:04:50 am
April 13-14
UW-Oshkosh 6, UW-La Crosse 1
UW-La Crosse 7, UW-Oshkosh 1
UW-Oshkosh 8, UW-La Crosse 6
UW-Oshkosh 11, UW-La Crosse 9

UW-Stout 18, UW-Superior 4 (7 innings)
UW-Stout 9, UW-Superior 1
UW-Stout 13, UW-Superior 4
UW-Stout 11, UW-Superior 4

UW-Whitewater 12, UW-Platteville 2 (7 innings)
UW-Whitewater 9, UW-Platteville 3
UW-Platteville 14, UW-Whitewater 13
UW-Whitewater 11, UW-Platteville 5

Standings
OSH   8-2
WW   8-2
SP      6-3
LC      7-7
ST      7-7
PLT    5-8
SUP   0-12
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 17, 2006, 01:37:28 pm
Titan2000

I also talked to the same folks at last Spring's NCAA III Championship Tournament in Appleton.  They all seemed to be Oshkosh players that didn't seem to have what it takes again last year to get to the D-3 World Series. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2006, 02:20:19 pm
I also talked to the same folks at last Spring's NCAA III Championship Tournament in Appleton.  They all seemed to be Oshkosh players that didn't seem to have what it takes again last year to get to the D-3 World Series. 
I find that hard to believe, because outside of Jirschele, Yost and Huffman, there wasn't a whole lot of talent on that team.  There is a reason why there are only a couple players from last years team on this years roster (Schwebke, Shere, Burgert, Hubacek, and Arrowood.)  There are also only maybe 2? pitchers (Ziegler and Bolton) who threw more than 20 innings last season on this years roster.

If you know anything about Lechnir, he hates losing, so if the players he had last season weren't good enough to get it done, he was going to find a differnet group of players.  There is a reason that there have been 6 freshman in the starting line-up at times this season, and a total of 8 freshman have started.

Voice-
As far as a Whitewater fan taking a "shot" at an opposing team, you would have been one of the last people I thought it would come from (along with Badgerwarhawk.)  Whether you like the program or not, it's hard to argue with what Lechnir has done at Oshkosh.  I can remember not too long ago when Whitewater was struggling to finish over .500 (1999 at 20-20, 2002 at 21-19.)  There has been one time in the last 15 years where Oshkosh hasn't finished 10 games over .500 (2002.)  Sure it is easy to forget about history when your school is coming off a National Championship, but as the saying goes, "It's easier to get to the top then it is staying there."  I have a feeling when everything is said and done, you won't see Whitewater at the top of the conference (much less Region or Nation) in what I would consider a VERY WEAK Baseball Conference this year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 02:57:56 pm
Whether you like the program or not, it's hard to argue with what Lechnir has done at Oshkosh.  I can remember not too long ago when Whitewater was struggling to finish over .500 (1999 at 20-20, 2002 at 21-19.)  There has been one time in the last 15 years where Oshkosh hasn't finished 10 games over .500 (2002.)  Sure it is easy to forget about history when your school is coming off a National Championship, but as the saying goes, "It's easier to get to the top then it is staying there."  I have a feeling when everything is said and done, you won't see Whitewater at the top of the conference (much less Region or Nation) in what I would consider a VERY WEAK Baseball Conference this year.

Well said, Cubs. The empty can rattles the most.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 17, 2006, 04:07:24 pm
Actually I have great respect for the UWO baseball program. As you put it succinctly, the Titans record speaks for itself.
Titan2000's comment about UW-Whitewater being one of the weakest D3 champions in several years was uncalled for and obviously posted prior to the two teams squaring off on Wednesday in Oshkosh. 

On another subject... having the WIAC postseason tournament at a neutral site. the pressure of getting home field advantage isn't a factor now.  In a short season, having to win against the "big dogs" was always an intriguing part of the WIAC baseball regular season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 04:11:56 pm
Where is the WIAC tourney this season... still in Rapids? or does it move around from place to place?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on April 17, 2006, 04:12:54 pm
It is still in Wisconsin Rapids
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 17, 2006, 04:39:08 pm
As I understood it, the tournament in Wisconsin Rapids was a two-year trial (2006 being the second year).  After this year they will re-evaluate and either stick with Rapids, return it to conference champions home, or (I guess) see if another "neutral" community wants it.  If I was a betting man, I'd put down a small wager that it stays in Rapids for at least a couple more years.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 05:08:11 pm
The great thing about Rapids, other than the field, is that it is centrally located in the state. I would actually like to see it moved to Appleton. It has a great venue and it could do wonders for the recruiting of the WIAC schools. More prospective players could see it in Appleton than Rapids as Appleton hasa much bigger "metropolitan" population with the Fox Cities than Rapids does being surrounded by farm communities.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 17, 2006, 08:34:20 pm
Titan2000's comment about UW-Whitewater being one of the weakest D3 champions in several years was uncalled for and obviously posted prior to the two teams squaring off on Wednesday in Oshkosh. 
Shouldn't we all know by now that titan2000's words should be taken with a grain of salt?  This is the guy that says he likes to see Oshkosh win but is the first one to kick them after a loss. ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 17, 2006, 10:18:10 pm


WARHAWKS[/color] warm up for the Titan with a pair of wins over Lawrence to improve to 17-7 on the season.   

Trailing 2-1 in the eighth inning of game two the WARHAWKS[/color] got a huge break when a passed ball on a strikeout extended the inning allowing Jordan Stine to drive in the tying run and Mike Jacobson to follow two batters later with the winner, 3-2.  Five pitchers took the mound with none pitching over two innings.

Game one was easier as the WARHAWKS[/color] plated four runs in their first at bat and added a fifth before Lawrence got on the board.  The WARHAWKS[/color] added four more runs before the end for a 9-1 win.  Five pitchers combined to pitch a 5 hitter.

I have heard that at least two other Wisconsin communities were interested in hosting the WIAC tournament, Wausau and Appleton.



 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on April 19, 2006, 05:54:20 pm
Can I get a whitewater vs. slopgosh update?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 19, 2006, 07:22:01 pm
Oshkosh's web site says the first game went to Whitewater 7-4.  Second game not in yet.

Elsewhere, SP sweeps Stout 1-0 and 7-5.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 19, 2006, 08:58:50 pm
The WARHAWKS[/color] and Titan split a pair of 9-4 games.  WHITEWATER[/color] jumps on top 5-1 in game one goes on to get 13 hits and four Titan errors in the easy win.  Adam Dominick goes 5 innings, gives up a single run and gets the win.    Jason Rutz goes 3-5 with 2 RBIs and Greg Harder goes 3-6 with  2 RBIs to lead the HAWKS[/color].

Game two is the opposite.  The Titan jump on top 9-0 in the first five innings before the WARHAWKS[/color] get 2 runs in the sixth and ninth for the final.  Adam Roos goes 9 full for Oshkosh surrendering 8 hits.  Matt Schliewe goes 2-4 with an RBI to pace WHITEWATER[/color] offensively.

WHITEWATER[/color] ends the day 9-3, 18-8.  Oshkosh 9-3, 17-7.  The two teams split the regular season series. 

Big, big weekend coming up with the Pointer in town.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on April 19, 2006, 09:19:18 pm
Titan2000's comment about UW-Whitewater being one of the weakest D3 champions in several years was uncalled for and obviously posted prior to the two teams squaring off on Wednesday in Oshkosh. 
Shouldn't we all know by now that titan2000's words should be taken with a grain of salt?  This is the guy that says he likes to see Oshkosh win but is the first one to kick them after a loss. ::)

Cubs:

Only when they severely underachieve like the 2005/2006 basketball team.  What a waste.  That was terrible, embarrasing and should not be tolerated by the Titan faithful.

T2K
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 20, 2006, 07:45:45 am
Article on ex-WW pitcher Reinhard. http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060420/APC021102/604200682/1892
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2006, 09:30:46 am
Thanks for finding that and posting the link Flash.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 20, 2006, 10:19:36 am
Wed. 4/19
UW-La Crosse 13, UW-Platteville 12 (11 innings)
UW-La Crosse 12, UW-Platteville 1 (7 innings)

UW-Whitewater 9, UW-Oshkosh 4
UW-Oshkosh 9, UW-Whitewater 4

UW-Stevens Point 1, UW-Stout 0
UW-Stevens Point 7, UW-Stout 5

Standings
OSH   9-3
WW   9-3
SP      8-3
LC      9-7
ST      7-9
PLT    5-10
SUP    0-12
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2006, 02:42:16 pm
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Cubs:

Only when they severely underachieve like the 2005/2006 basketball team. What a waste. That was terrible, embarrasing and should not be tolerated by the Titan faithful.

T2K


I'd buy that explanation except for the fact it was the same thing with you and the 2004/2005 team and I'll bet that wasn't the first time either.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: pastprime on April 22, 2006, 02:32:56 pm
Underachieve?  Who are you to decide.  Is your life so desperately unfullfilled if Oshkosh loses?  Titan2000, get a life and move on.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2006, 06:35:34 pm
WARHAWKS[/color] and Pointer split the first two.  Game on saw Mike Jacobson pitch a complete game, eight hit, seven strikeout, shutout for the the 5-0 win.  Ben Prather put two off the fence going 3 for 5 with 3 RBI's to pace the WARHAWK[/color] offensively.

Game two gets ugly fast as the WARHAWKS[/color] misplay three bunts, commit an error and the Pointer  turn their second at bat into 7 runs.  Pointer pound out 20 hits against a parade of WARHAWK[/color] pitchers in this one and win a butt waxing 19-4 in seven innings.

It rained in Madison and cancelled the doublehitter between the Titan and Pioneer who were scheduled to play at Warner Park.   Evidently that cost the Pioneer the neutral field and the two will play all four games in Oshkosh, weather permitting, tommorrow and Monday. 

The total rainfall in Madison yesterday was 0.14 inches and it fell at 2:30am.  How does a little over one tenth an inch of rain almost 10 hours before the first pitch cancel a doublehitter and move the location to another city?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2006, 09:06:26 pm
WARHAWKS[/color] and Pointer split again today.  WHITEWATER[/color] battles back from 4-0 and 6-3 deficits to take a 9-6 lead into the fifth inning.  But the Pointer score five times in their last four at bats and take game one 11-9.  Eddie Adamson goes 3 for 5 with 3 RBI to pace the WARHAWKS[/color] offense.

In game two the WARHAWKS[/color] jump on top early by a 5-1 score after two innings.  But, again, the Pointer get back into the game with two runs in the fourth, three in the seventh and a solo run in the eighth to take a 7-6 lead.  However this time the WARHAWKS[/color] were able to rally themselves scoring one run on a sacrifice fly and another on clutch double by Greg Harder to regain the lead 8-7 and freshman Kris Edwards retired the Pointer in their last at bat to preserve the win.   Harder was 3 for 5 with the RBI to lead the WARHAWKS[/color] at the plate.

The day ends with WHITEWATER[/color] 11-5 in conference play and 20-10 on the season.  Stevens Point concludes the day at 10-5, 18-10. 



Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2006, 09:26:21 pm
Oshkosh and Platteville split today, with Platteville winning Game #1, 8-4.  The loss marked the 4th straight time Oshkosh had lost to Platteville going back to last season.  Oshkosh rebounds and wins game #2 11-5.

It would not suprise me if the Conference Champion ended up losing 7 or 8 games this season.  It doesn't appear that anyone is head and shoulders above the rest of the league.  Since going to the 24 game schedule, the most losses a Conference Champion has had is 5, by the 2003 Whitewater squad.  This was the same season Oshkosh received four "losses" in the standings for having 2 DH's rained out against La Crosse and Superior to finish 17-7.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2006, 10:26:35 am
April 22-23
UW-La Crosse 17, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)
UW-La Crosse 16, UW-Superior 6 (8 innings)
UW-La Crosse 9, UW-Superior 6
UW-La Crosse 16, UW-Superior 2 (7 innings)

UW-Whitewater 5, UW-Stevens Point 0
UW-Stevens Point 19, UW-Whitewater 4 (7 innings)
UW-Stevens Point 11, UW-Whitewater 9
UW-Whitewater 8, UW-Stevens Point 7

UW-Platteville 8, UW-Oshkosh 4
UW-Oshkosh 11, UW-Platteville 5
UW-Platteville at UW-Oshkosh (DH) - Monday

Standings
OSH   10-4
WW    11-5
SP      10-5
LC      13-7
ST        7-9
PLT      6-11
SUP     0-16
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 24, 2006, 11:40:20 am
Looks great a great race is going on in the WIAC. Come on Superior, you gotta win at least one!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2006, 12:20:10 pm
What are the chances of the WIAC teams getting two into the NCAAs? For those that follow the WIAC, how are the teams looking and who is able to make a dent nationally this year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2006, 12:27:25 pm
Of course it depends on how the rest of the season plays out but I think we've got a chance of getting two teams participating.  Particularly if either Oshkosh or Point were to sweep their series.  However I'm not certain that any of our programs have the pitching depth to go deep into the national tournament. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 24, 2006, 01:02:28 pm
I wouldn't count out a WIAC team either though. Everyone knows that the top teams from your conference can hit the crap out of the ball year after year. If you can get through the first few games of regionals with no losses or just one, then you will be getting deep into other teams pitching staff's as well and just pile up the runs like I see have been done already in some conference games between good teams.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2006, 01:54:54 pm
What are the chances of the WIAC teams getting two into the NCAAs? For those that follow the WIAC, how are the teams looking and who is able to make a dent nationally this year.
Not knowing what some of the other teams around the Nation records look like I can't really predict if a WIAC team has a chance at a Pool C bid.  As it stands now, the WIAC won't have a team looking for a Pool C bid with less than 10 losses.  (Oshkosh has 8, but if they don't with the Conference Tourney that would be 2 more losses.)  In years past I don't remember how may losses got a team a Pool C bid, but I can remember when Oshkosh and Ripon recived Pool C bids in the Titans were 33-6 and the the Red Hawks 32-4.  I believe Christopher Newport was the ohter Pool C that season and they had maybe 7 losses??  I know there are nearly 5 times as many Pool C bids now, but when your sitting at 11, 12, or 13 losses, I have a feeling there are going to be a few 7, 8, and 9 loss teams getting bids first, regardless of conference strength. 

I may be wrong, but I have a feeling the WIAC is a one bid league this season.

As far as making a dent Nationally, I just don't see it.  I have said earlier this year, but this is as "watered down" I have seen the pitching in a long time.  We all know that the successful teams are the ones that can pitch in the postseason (Whitewater and Oshkosh teams of the past.)  There just doesn't appear to be that type of team this season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2006, 03:59:34 pm
Well you can make that 12 losses for sure (the least amount a WIAC team will have in hopes of a Pool C bid) as Platteville sweeps Oshkosh today.  I think that noise you heard was the WIAC's Pool C chances flying right out the window.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 25, 2006, 10:52:52 am
April 24

UW-Platteville 7, UW-Oshkosh 6
UW-Platteville 12, UW-Oshkosh 7

Standings (Remaining WIAC Series):
WW   11-5  (@ SUP, vs. LC)
SP     10-5  (@ OSH, vs. SUP)
OSH   10-6  (vs. SP, vs. ST)
LC      13-7  (Off, @ WW)
ST       7-9   (vs. PLT, @ OSH)
PLT     8-11 (@ ST, Off)
SUP    0-16  (vs. WW, @ SP)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 25, 2006, 11:12:08 am
Wow, I'm assuming Oshkosh had to go pretty deep into their pitching staff for this double header.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 25, 2006, 04:59:37 pm
Wow, I'm assuming Oshkosh had to go pretty deep into their pitching staff for this double header.


Actually they only used four pitchers in the Monday DH and nine pitchers in the four game series. No pitcher was used in more than one game. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 26, 2006, 02:46:11 pm
Not that anyone needed any proof that Superior is...ahem...not good, but I thought this was amazing.

Superior has only held the lead in a WIAC game twice this season in 16 games.  Both times, the lead lasted for exactly 1/2 inning.

Led La Crosse 2-1 at the end of the 1st

Led Oshkosh 1-0 at the end of the 1st

Yikes!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2006, 07:10:25 pm
As long as it continues at least one more weekend.  :D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2006, 01:01:14 pm
I was surprised to see Oshkosh only salvage a split with Marion yesterday though the Point series this weekend probably had an impact on what pitchers they used.   But, Marion?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2006, 01:40:25 pm
I was surprised to see Oshkosh only salvage a split with Marion yesterday though the Point series this weekend probably had an impact on what pitchers they used.   But, Marion?
I think it said something in the boxscore that they started 7 freshman, including the DH (Shere, Arrowood, and Accola.)  Looks like Lechnir is going back to his old ways, instead of using transfers to plug holes for a year or two.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2006, 11:04:40 pm
WHITEWATER[/color] gets the first two against Superior 14-3 and 9-2. 

Superior led 3-0 after the first inning in game one but the WARHAWKS[/color] answered with 3 in their second at bat and scored in 4 of the next 5 innings for the seven inning victory.  Matt Schliewe drove in five runs with a double and a home run while Jordan Stine, Greg Harder and Ben Prather had 3 hits apiece. 

The game two the WARHAWKS[/color] went up 9-0 before Superior got a pair of runs in their last at bat.  Stine continued hitting well going 3 for 4 with an RBI.  Prather also had three hits.

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Oshkosh and Point played a pair of dandies today.  Oshkosh trailed 1-0 in game one and had gone hitless into the sixth inning when they got their only two hits of the game, a two out single followed by a home run.  Oshkosh holds on for the 2-1 win.

Game two was even wilder.  Point blew another lead and the teams went to extra innings when the game was tied 3-3 at the end of nine.   It continued that way until the bottom of the 11th when Oshkosh drew three walks.  One was intentional, the last one forced in the winning run, 4-3. 

Hopefully the Pointer can rebound for a pair of wins tomorrow. :D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 30, 2006, 04:05:16 pm
Any updates on which games are being played or not? I know many teams had moved their game from Sat. and Sun. to Fri. and Sat.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2006, 05:18:10 pm
Today's WARHAWK[/color]/Superior doublehitter was moved from Superior to the Humpty Dumpty Dome and the start pushed back to 8pm.  Looks like some midnight baseball tonight.

Oshkosh/Point was cancelled and rescheduled for Monday.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 01, 2006, 12:31:44 pm
April 29-30
UW-Oshkosh 2, UW-Stevens Point 1
UW-Oshkosh 4, UW-Stevens Point 3 (11 innings)
Stevens Point @ Oshkosh (DH) - Monday

UW-Stout 6, UW-Platteville 4
UW-Stout 14, UW-Platteville 3 (7 innings)
Platteville @ Stout (DH) - Monday

UW-Whitewater 14, UW-Superior 3 (7 innings)
UW-Whitewater 9, UW-Superior 2
UW-Whitewater 14, UW-Superior 1 (7 innings)
UW-Whitewater 10, UW-Superior 0 (8 innings)

Standings
WW   15-5
OSH   12-6
LC      13-7
SP      10-7
ST        9-9
PLT      8-13
SUP     0-20
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 12:49:45 pm
Does the WIAC conference tourney champ get the bid or is it a combination of the season and the tourney?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2006, 01:51:19 pm
Does the WIAC conference tourney champ get the bid or is it a combination of the season and the tourney?
The Conference Tournament Champion receives the automatic bid.  The regular season is used for seeding purposes only.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 01, 2006, 02:15:19 pm
Does the WIAC conference tourney champ get the bid or is it a combination of the season and the tourney?
The Conference Tournament Champion receives the automatic bid.  The regular season is used for seeding purposes only.
The Regular Season champion is considered to be the WIAC Champion.  The tournament detemines only the automatic bid.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 01, 2006, 02:16:08 pm
This is a couple of weeks old, but its a nice story on Josh Perkins who returned to UW-Stevens Point's team after serving in Iraq.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=416555
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2006, 02:26:00 pm
The WARHAWKS[/color] get both wins in mercy shortened games.  Tied 1-1 after the second inning of game one the WARHAWKS[/color] score the next 13 runs to win 14-1 in 7 innings.  Mike Jacobson gets the win.  Matt DeLong goes 4x4 and scores 4 runs.  Eddie Adamson (2x4), Greg Harder (2x4), Matt Schliewe (2x4) and Jacobson (2x4) drive in a total of 11 runs.

Game two saw the WARHAWKS[/color] score 4 in their first at bat and cruise to the 10-0 win in 8 innings.  Jordan Stien paced the offense going 3x4 and driving in 4 runs.  Eddie Adamson contributed 2 RBIs going 2x4 at the plate.  Adam Dominick got win pitching 5 shutout innings, giving up 2 hits and striking out 9.

WARHAWKS[/color] improve to 24-10 on the season, 15-5 in conference play. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 03:44:09 pm
How mant times has Superior been beaten on the mercy rule this season? It needs to be close to a record. It has to be tough to recruit kids to play in that area because of the weather.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 01, 2006, 03:58:29 pm
Superior has been "Mercy-ruled" 13 times in 20 WIAC games so far this year.  They have given up at least 8 runs in every WIAC game and at least 10 runs in 16 games.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 04:11:19 pm
WOW!!!! That is a long season for those guys.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 02, 2006, 10:07:34 am
May 1
UW-Oshkosh 4, UW-Stevens Point 2
UW-Oshkosh 7, UW-Stevens Point 3

UW-Platteville at UW-Stout - Cancelled

Standings (Remaining Series)
WW   15-5   (vs. LC)
OSH   14-6   (vs. ST)
LC   13-7   (@ WW)
SP   10-9   (vs. SUP)
ST     9-9   (@ OSH)
PLT     8-13
SUP    0-20   (@ SP)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2006, 01:50:02 pm
I am amazed that Point was preseason #6 in the polls and is fighting to stay at .500 in the conference. I am still not certain that this is a down year for the WIAC as I have a feeling they all pound one another and someone will roll in the NCAAs.

I think the WIAC prepares them better than the LMC, MWC, and MIAC does. It will be an interesting regional.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 02, 2006, 06:40:27 pm
The defending champs Whitewater are back in the top 25...Congrats. I gotta agree with BP, no matter which WIAC makes the tournament, I'm sure nobody will want to play them because of their reputation to just absolutely pound the baseball.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 02, 2006, 09:44:15 pm
The WARHAWKS[/color] tuned up for the weekend with a pair of convincing wins over Concordia (Wi) today. 

In game one Eddie Adamson went 4X5 with a double and two home runs good for 6 RBIs and the WARHAWKS[/color] scored in 7 of the 9 innings to coast 18-2.  Ben Prather and Matt Schliewe also had home runs.   Chris Spangler surrendered 3 hits over 5 innings for the win.

In game two the WARHAWKS[/color] got up 8-0 before Concordia got on the board and won 11-4.  Prather was good for two more home runs going 4x6 with 3 RBIs.  Billy Johnson also homered.  Andrew Keller got the win. 

WHITEWATER[/color] improves to 26-10.  Concordia is 19-17. 

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2006, 08:59:17 am
The WARHAWKS[/color] and LaCrosse split yesterday's doublehitter.

WHITEWATER[/color] held a 6-4 lead into the seventh inning of game one but a throwing error and two hit batters turned a 2 run inning into a 5 run inning for the Eagle and they went on to win 9-7.  Jordan Stine and Bill Gorman each had 2 RBI to lead the WARHAWKS[/color]. 

We were all pretty bummed but the mood lightened when the word came in from Oshkosh and Stout had taken the Titan, 15-7, in their first game.

WHITEWATER[/color] rebounded in game two.  Tied 1-1 after 3 innings the WARHAWKS[/color] scored 7 runs over the 4th and 5th innings and went on for the 8-2 victory.  Adam Dominick went the full 9 innings on the mound striking out 8.  Jason Rutz and Ben Prather both went 2X4 with 3 and 2 RBIs respectively.

Prather extended his school record hitting streak to 25 games. 

Stout also took the second game against the Titan 16-5.
 

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2006, 10:49:25 am
The WARHAWKS[/color] started fast in game one jumping to a 3-0 lead on Mike Jacobson's 3-run home run in the first inning.  LaCrosse came back to tie the game 3-3 but the WARHAWKS[/color] retook the lead in their next at bat and scored four more times to the Eagle's once and clinched their fourth consecutive conference championship 7-4.   Jacobson carried the offensive load with 4 RBIs while senior hurler Andrew Keller went the distance yielding 6 hits.  Regrettably I jinxed Ben Prather who's hitting streak was halted at 25 games.  When will I ever learn? 

The championship was WHITEWATER'S[/color] 6th in the past 7 seasons.  With championships in football, men's basketball and baseball WHITEWATER[/color] becomes only the second school in conference history to accomplish that feat within the same academic school year.  The other is Stevens Point who has done it twice ('99-'00) ('00-'01).   

It was LaCrosse who started hot in game two with a 3 runs in their first at bat and building an 8-2 lead before Eddie Adamson's 3-run home in the bottom of the eigth cut the lead to 3 runs, 8-5, but it was too little, too late as the Eagle went on to win by the same score.

WHITEWATER[/color] finishes regular season play with an overall record of 28-12 and 17-7 in conference play securing the #1 seed in the upcoming tournament.  LaCrosse finishes 21-17, 15-9 and the #3 seed.  Oshkosh took both games from Stout yesterday to finish 27-13, 16-8 with the #2 seed and Stevens Point outscores Superior 54-2 in four mercy shortened games to finish 25-14, 14-9 and with the #4 seed.


Friday, 5/12
10 am.....WHITEWATER[/color] vs. Stevens Point
1 pm.......Oshkosh vs LaCrosse


 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2006, 08:56:59 am
I have a feeling when everything is said and done, you won't see Whitewater at the top of the conference (much less Region or Nation) in what I would consider a VERY WEAK Baseball Conference this year.
Boy I sure called that one........ ::) 

Congrats Whitewater on the Conference Championship.  I still think whoever wins the Conference Tournament will receive the only WIAC bid into the NCAA Tournament.  The least amount of losses a team could have is 14, if Whitewater would happen to come up short.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2006, 10:51:34 am
Weak or whatever with three of the four playoff teams having a chance to secure the #1 seed on the final weekend of the regular season it was a very competitive year.   What surprised me is that the league went sub .500 out of conference.

For certain the league needs the other regional conference champions to win their tournaments, secure automatic bids, and not use up any extra at large bids.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 08, 2006, 01:15:16 pm
I'm not really sure what "weak" means when talking about the strength of the WIAC this spring.  Last year, Whitewater went into the NCAA III playoffs ranked #1 in the country even though they lost the WIAC postseason title to Stevens Point and went on to sweep its way through the tournament on the way to the 2005 NCAA III Title.  A couple of weeks ago, someone on this forum called Whitewater one of the weakest national champions in several years.

I guess if you consider that to be true, this year's WIAC is not as strong as last years.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 08, 2006, 01:38:27 pm
Any division 3 team that has a pitcher drafted in the top 10 rounds, and 2 pitchers drafted overall obviously is not a weak team. I don't know how you could say a team that put up the offensive numbers WW did last year, and with those 2 pitchers could be one of the weakest national champions in recent memory.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2006, 01:58:32 pm
I don't know how you could say a team that put up the offensive numbers WW did last year, and with those 2 pitchers could be one of the weakest national champions in recent memory.
Those of us that frequent the WIAC boards should remember who the source of that "information" was (titan2000.)  I for one don't put a lot of weight in his ramblings about rats, TVD fishing, etc... ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2006, 02:03:43 pm
Last year, Whitewater went into the NCAA III playoffs ranked #1 in the country even though they lost the WIAC postseason title to Stevens Point and went on to sweep its way through the tournament on the way to the 2005 NCAA III Title. 
Whitewater's 2005 team was special, which is why they were able to win the whole thing.  As I've said before there isn't a pitcher on any WIAC team that could come close to what Reinhard or Tomasiewicz did last year.  If there was, I would make that pitchers team the favorite to win the Conference Tournament this season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on May 08, 2006, 10:45:44 pm
Hello WIACers..
As an avid follower of the MIAC and Midwest Region baseball I believe I can honestly say, for the first time since UST won the natl title in 2001, that the MIAC is the strongest league in the region this year. The MIAC went 8-3 vs the WIAC this year (true, 4 of those wins were against lowly UW Superior), but more impressively the 4 MIAC playoff teams went 3-0 vs the 4 WIAC playoff teams, including Gustavus' 8-5 win over reg season champ UW Whitewater and staff ace Mike Jacobsen.

The strength of the MIAC this year is undoubtedly the pitching; 6 pitchers with over 30 innings pitched recorded eras under 2.50 (vs 2 in the WIAC). After losing Player of the Year Brett Olsen and Pitcher of the Year Brian Krause UST added 2 stud freshmen pitchers in Dan Leslie and Erik Olsen, while St Olaf has 4 top flight pitchers in Sr. Eric Tobias, Sr. Dan O'Malley, So. Paul Johnson, and Fr. Todd Mathison who in his first season of conf play did not yield an earned run in 31 innings pitched. Gustavus is led, as always, by Seniors Josh Spitzack and Andy Schmidt, and Hamline's staff leans heavily on Sr. Kyle Foster and So. Josh Roiger. As evidence of the strong pitching I point to the new record for team conference ERA; a record which had been held by the 1991 St Olaf team (1.87) for 15 years before being broken by both the 2006 St Olaf (1.77) and UST (1.64) staffs.

Hitting on MIAC squads is very different than on WIAC teams: Gustavus Jr. Tony Konicek (who should easily be conf player of the year) led the league with a .475 average, with 7 others also above .400 (vs 3 in the WIAC). However, you don't see nearly the run production in the MIAC that you do in the WIAC; League leaders in runs, RBIs, and HRs in the MIAC fell short of their WIAC counterparts (50 v 35 for runs, 48 v 44 for RBI, and 12 v 8 for HR), and team power numbers in the WIAC dwarfed those in the MIAC (346 runs for UWW v 244 for Hamline, 47 HR for USP v 18 for Gustavus, and .505 slug% for USP v .474 slug% for Gustavus).

I don't have much respect for the other leagues in the Midwest regions (MWC, LMC, & UMAC) or their leaders (Ripon, Edgewood, or College of St. Scholastica) because of how poor the competition is for them in their leagues. I'd give the MIAC a 50/50 chance of having its representative(s) win the Region, the WIAC 30/70 and CSS 20/80. No way Ripon or Edgewood win more than a single game in Regions.

This message isn't meant to be derogatory (well, at least not towards WIACers) its just my opinion of the balance of power in the region. I've often said to my friends that the WIAC is the best baseball conference in the nation, however, this year I feel the MIAC is stronger.

If anyone has a similar run down of the WIAC from the WIAC side of things I'd love to hear it.

Good Luck and Go Gusties!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on May 10, 2006, 11:57:52 am
Does anyone on this board know why the WIAC made the decision to move the baseball tournament to a nuetral site in Wisconsin Rapids.
I know only four teams make the tournament,and would think that it would generate more revenue,and more home team fans if they just had the tournament at the school who won the conference. Sort of like the reward for them winning the conference. I know that it may not seem fair,and that not all of the schools have two baseball fields on campus, but most have another place they can play.
Such as Whitewater the high school and then the on campus field. Not to mention Whitewater has the best dam gounds crew manager Brezowitz in all of the WIAC.
In 2003 they most likely wouldn't ave played the tournament at UWW if it wasn't for him, as he was at the fileds at seven thirty raking them,and getting them ready.
Any insight into this would be much appreciated.I just think that the team that wins the conference should host the conference tournament. Even if it's in the same place every year such as Oshkosh or Whitewater.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 10, 2006, 12:23:41 pm
A few things came together to put the WIAC tournament in Wisconsin Rapids.

In 2004 when Whitewater hosted, they used Whitewater HS as the second field.  Unfortunately, the field was swamped with rain the week before and even after three days of work it was poor shape.  The games also got pushed late in the day which forced Point and La Crosse to drive down the road to Jefferson to play a game under the lights.  One of the parents of a La Crosse player happened to be from Rapids.  He approached the Rapids visitors bureau and the mayor about bidding to host the WIAC Tournament.  They put together a proposal and set up a meeting with the WIAC commish.

At that time the WIAC was trying to solve a few problems.  They didn't like the fact that we were playing two games of the WIAC Tournament on substandard fields (WW HS, Bukolt Park in SP).  They wanted a facility with lights so that they would have more time to get games in, in case of weather delays, but no WIAC shcool has lights.  The WIAC was also shopping around the possibility of playing the WIAC basketball tournament at a neutral site, and the thought was that the proposal from Rapids could be a test run for a neutral site championship.

The coaches weren't crazy about it either, but they decided to give Rapids a two-year run to see what it would be like.  This is the second year.  Personally, I went last year and thought the Rapids put on a great show.  Even with the rain, they were able to play the first six games on one field in a two day span.  As a fan, I enjoyed being able to see every game of the tournament and not having to split my attention between two fields.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2006, 01:02:13 pm
Such as Whitewater the high school and then the on campus field. Not to mention Whitewater has the best dam gounds crew manager Brezowitz in all of the WIAC.
In 2003 they most likely wouldn't ave played the tournament at UWW if it wasn't for him, as he was at the fileds at seven thirty raking them,and getting them ready.
If you think 7:30 is early, try coming up to Oshkosh in April when the players have been clearing snow off the field/tarp for a NC game against St. Scholastica at 6:00/6:30 on a Sunday morning. 

As far as best grounds crew manager, I have a feeling Brezowitz's attention is on the football field in the summer, while Lechnir is busy working on Tiedemann.  I think many would agree, Tiedemann has the best playing surface of any school in the conference.  In addition they have the Major League size infield tarp in case of poor weather.  (Does anyone else in the WIAC have a full size infield tarp?)   When/if they get lights (neighbors objecting right now) I would not be surprised if they put in a bid to host the Conference Tourney.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 10, 2006, 02:42:01 pm
I remember when Eau Claire's field at Carson Park was sweet, but I buy Tiedemann being the best now days.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 10, 2006, 07:55:29 pm
We have tarps which cover the entire infield. 

Does anyone else have a helicopter?   I know Oshkosh has the EAA but what about a helicopter?  lol ;)

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on May 10, 2006, 11:01:40 pm
Badgerwarhawk,
I forgot about the helicopter idea of Brez's I think it was Brez that thought up that idea, and just had to get the NCAA to agree to pay for it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2006, 12:52:55 pm
It might take more than a helicopter to play this weekend in Rapids.  Forecast calls for 50s and showers.  It looks like Friday and Saturday could both be in jeopardy.

Maybe they can call Superior and see if they can pull off that Metrodome deal again like they did for the Whitewater series.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2006, 02:38:11 pm
Friday's games have been postponed to Saturday.  Read all about it-  http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/06trnyppd.html
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: POUNDTHEROCK on May 11, 2006, 02:44:14 pm
If the rainy weather conitnues through the entire weekend. Who from the conference would get the automatic bid then. Wouls it be Whitewater because they won the regular season.
Also what do you think the chances of the warhawks if they get the automatic bid  to host the regiopnals of the world series.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2006, 02:59:30 pm
I believe they would first switch to single-elimination format.  If the tournament can't be completed, then the highest seed yet to be eliminated would get the automatic bid.  So, if no games were played at all, Whitewater would get the bid as the #1 seed.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 03:04:58 pm
I hope it clears... nothing more competitive than the WIAC baseball tourney.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2006, 03:23:36 pm
Maybe they can call Superior and see if they can pull off that Metrodome deal again like they did for the Whitewater series.


It was WHITEWATER[/color] that put the MetroDome deal together.  Superior had nothing to do with it. 

One of our parents works in the Twin front office and when it became apparent completing the series was going to be a problem she contacted the coaching staff to see if they would be interested.  When they said they would be she made another phone call and the deal was done.  Convincing Superior to go along with it was somewhat of a problem though, in the end, they were agreeable.

I think the tournament has be completed by a certain time on Sunday because of the selection process.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 03:27:10 pm


I think the tournament has be completed by a certain time on Sunday because of the selection process.



You are correct... 6PM.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueDevil Bob on May 11, 2006, 04:21:53 pm
I see in the tournament schedule that if a game 7 is necessary, it would start at 6 pm Sunday. So, I wonder what would happen then.

Those will be some cold metal bats this weekend.  :P

Thank God for batting gloves.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 05:13:14 pm
I see in the tournament schedule that if a game 7 is necessary, it would start at 6 pm Sunday. So, I wonder what would happen then.

Those will be some cold metal bats this weekend.  :P

Thank God for batting gloves.

Who knows... I am almost certain that the 6pm time is correct though. The NCAA committee needs to begin selecting teams and seeding them in the regions to have it annonunced early Monday. It's an amazingly long process.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 12, 2006, 10:55:39 pm
FYI, the helicopter deal wasn't unique.

It was done in the 80s (not sure what year) when Marietta hosted the Series. Brought in a helicopter from the airport across the river.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 13, 2006, 12:26:32 pm
The Tournament is underway!

SP leads WW 1-0 through 6 innings.  Point's Zimmerman has given up just 2 hits and has faced the minimum so far.

Tournament Live Stats:  http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/2006Tourny/livestats.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 13, 2006, 02:21:11 pm
Thanks for the link BDB, boy Point sure gave that one away.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2006, 08:31:26 pm
Whitewater scores 4 runs in the bottom of the 9th to come back and defeat Point, 5-4.

La Crosse scores 2 in the top of the 10th, and then holds Oshkosh to 1 run in the bottom half, to defeat Oshkosh 5-4 in 10 innings.

Point's Josh Perkins strikes out 15 Titans, to help Point defeat Oshkosh 3-0 in the first elimination game of the tournament.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueDevil Bob on May 14, 2006, 11:42:08 am
Thanks for the link BDB, boy Point sure gave that one away.

Flash, I would like to take credit for posting the link, but we better give credit where it is due.  ;)

Nice link, JB. Thanks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2006, 08:32:19 pm
Copy, paste, post.  Really, how much credit does anyone deserve for that?

Pointers roar back with three straight wins on Sunday to claim the tournament for the second straight year.  Point edges LC 10-9 before pasting WW 14-7 and 12-2.  At the onset I thought Point was the most talented team, but had a terrible time getting crucial hits and avoiding crucial mistakes in tight games.  After Game 1 against WW on Saturday I thought there was no way they were mentally tough enough to recover from a world class choke job like that.  They proved me wrong.

I heard a rumor that Rapids submitted a bid for a Regional?  I assume with Point as the host school.  Any truth to that?  Could it happen?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BanditUWSP on May 14, 2006, 08:59:03 pm
Trust me on this.  It is more than rumor.  Just waiting for the decision to see if it will happen. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on May 15, 2006, 07:17:40 am
Wow, the brackets are out and no UW Whitewater in regionals (there is a link in the MWC thread). Coe (4th in reg season, winner of IIAC tourney) comes over from the Central region and keeps UWW out. Thats a shame, I think UWW is probably the 4th or 5th best team in the region but AQs from subpar conferences took up 3 spots.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 15, 2006, 09:30:30 am
Congrats to the Warhawks for a great season and winning the regular season conference title. The team did better than many expected. Obvious weakness to me was pitching which hopefully will improve next season as the younger pitchers mature.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 15, 2006, 10:34:19 am
Congrats and good luck to Stevens Point.  We won the war but they won the battle that counted.   

Not making the national tournament was disappointing.  I know 14 losses is a bit much but we also had 30 wins and we're the defending national champions.  But that wasn't enough for the NCAA.  At any rate we've only ourselves to blame.  We were in the driver's seat and all we had to do was take care of our own business but we didn't.   So it goes.

Realistically the season exceeded most everyone's expectations and next year, unlike this one, we'll be returning 7 of 9 starters and the #1, #2 so the future looks bright for WARHAWK[/color] baseball. 

To Nick Teach, Eddie Adamson and Andrew Keller....thanks for everything.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 15, 2006, 11:44:49 am
NCAA Division III Regional
at Witter Field, Wisconsin Rapids
Wednesday, May 17
Game 1 – 9:30 a.m. - #5 UW-Stevens Point (29-15) vs. #4 St. Scholastica (36-4)
Game 2 – 1 p.m. - #2 St. Olaf (28-8) vs. #7 Dominican (21-19)
Game 3 – 4:30 p.m. - #3 St. Thomas (29-9) vs. #6 Coe (26-17)
Game 4 – 8 p.m. - #1 Ripon (31-5) vs. Game 1 winner
 
Thursday, May 18
Game 5 – 9:30 a.m. - Loser Game 2 vs. Loser Game 3
Game 6 – 1 p.m. - Winner Game 2 vs. Winner Game 3
Game 7 – 4:30 p.m. - Loser Game 4 vs. Winner Game 5
Game 8 – 8 p.m. - Loser Game 1 vs. Loser Game 6
 
Friday, May 19
Game 9 – Noon - Winner Game 4 vs. Winner Game 6
Game 10 – 3:30 p.m. - Winner Game 7 vs. Winner Game 8
Game 11 – 7 p.m. - Loser Game 9 vs. Winner Game 10
 
Saturday, May 20
Game 12 – Noon - Winner Game 9 vs. Winner Game 11
Game 13 – 4 p.m. - if necessary
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2006, 02:05:48 pm
Realistically the season exceeded most everyone's expectations and next year, unlike this one, we'll be returning 7 of 9 starters and the #1, #2 so the future looks bright for WARHAWK[/color] baseball. 
Just to compare, Oshkosh returns 8 of 9 starters (Josh Shere being the only graduate) and return all but one member of their pitching staff (Jim Ziegler.)

With that said, I would expect Oshkosh to improve on their record from this season, considering all but two players return, including eight freshman that saw significant playing time this season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 15, 2006, 04:06:01 pm
Don't know if anyone noticed, but the New jersey Athletic Conference received multiple bids for this years NCAA Tournmanent.  Anyone want to take a guess as to how many they recieved?  Not two, not three, but four bids.

It kind of shows you what kind of respect that confernece has when it comes to baseball.  Kind of reminds me of the WIAC and Men's Basketball this season (La Crosse, Whitewater, Stout.)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2006, 11:56:01 am
UW-Stevens Point has put up a Regional web site:  http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/NCAARegional06.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 16, 2006, 09:24:17 pm
I read that their 5th place regular season team got an at-large bid and they didn't even reach the championship game, whereas Whitewater, the regular season champion who got to the championship game twice, didn't get a bid.  Their records were very similar.  I think Whitewater had 30 wins too.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2006, 11:10:27 pm
Looks like Rowan was 18-9 in-region, 7-5 against regionally ranked teams.
I see UW-Whitewater as 25-10, 0-1 against regionally ranked teams.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 16, 2006, 11:25:17 pm
Looks like Rowan was 18-9 in-region, 7-5 against regionally ranked teams.
I see UW-Whitewater as 25-10, 0-1 against regionally ranked teams.

The Handbook also cites "Results vs In-region Ranked teams".  The fact that Rowan played 12 such games vs one for UW-W also worked to their favor.

Now I can see some WIAC fans complaining about why that doesn't work for them in basketball, but this time it didn't.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 17, 2006, 03:00:37 am
Ralph,
I understand totally what you are saying.  The one hole in the NCAA's in-region philosophy in baseball is teams from the Midwest that travel annually to Florida, Arizona or California for spring games just to fill out their schedules. This year's cast of teams in Phoenix was made up largely of teams from the East.  I talked about this situation with several coaches in Phoenix earlier this year and they all agreed that "in-region" games are totally at the whim of what schools decide on travelling to a certain spring location, be it Arizona, Florida or Caifornia.  I truely believe that the many week-long spring trips to warm weather sites should not be penalized by the archaic  NCAA III "in region" rule.  Division III is Division III isn't it? 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2006, 03:10:43 am
Yes, it's Division III, which has an overarching divisionwide philosophy citing regional competition as a point of emphasis. You're not going to change that.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on May 17, 2006, 07:39:44 am
Yes, it's Division III, which has an overarching divisionwide philosophy citing regional competition as a point of emphasis. You're not going to change that.
Ralph,
I understand totally what you are saying.  The one hole in the NCAA's in-region philosophy in baseball is teams from the Midwest that travel annually to Florida, Arizona or California for spring games just to fill out their schedules. This year's cast of teams in Phoenix was made up largely of teams from the East.  I talked about this situation with several coaches in Phoenix earlier this year and they all agreed that "in-region" games are totally at the whim of what schools decide on travelling to a certain spring location, be it Arizona, Florida or Caifornia.  I truely believe that the many week-long spring trips to warm weather sites should not be penalized by the archaic  NCAA III "in region" rule.  Division III is Division III isn't it?

One solution, then, is to have teams from the same region (different conferences) go to those spring site baseball complexes in FL, Arizona or California and play their week long spring games there.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2006, 08:21:30 am
I personally would dislike that. I like the idea of going and playing good teams from other regions. You see the people in your region all the time anyway, you can play them up north if you want. Why play them down south too? I understand why, but still don't like it, even though it happens anyway sometimes whether you want it to or not. I feel the same way about playing non Division III competition. A few years back Cortland State started out like 6-7. Well, that was because they were playing very strong Division I and II competition in Ormond Beach.

I dislike that the in-region games are given so much weight, almost as if the rest of the season doesn't even matter.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 17, 2006, 09:02:24 am
I personally would dislike that. I like the idea of going and playing good teams from other regions. You see the people in your region all the time anyway,...

Apparently you don't.  Whitewater only played one in-region game vs. a ranked opponent, as Pat pointed out.  Why didn't they play Ripon, like Point did (SP swept them in Ripon and may get to face them in the regional too). 

Anyway, I really didn't take time to look at the in-region records and all that.  Point accomplished an amazing feat by winning three games in less than 9 hours in one day, including back to back games vs. WIAC reg. season champ. and defending national champs Whitewater.  Pretty impressive.  So, I just decided to hop on the baseball site for a look-see.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 17, 2006, 10:58:44 am
First game of the Regional is underway.  No score after two innings.  Zimmerman is pitching for the Pointers and has struck out 5 of the first 6 CSS batters.
http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/NCAAregional/ncaa1.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 17, 2006, 12:35:14 pm
Deja Vu....

It looks like Point is going to have to come back thru the loser's bracket.

CSS 4-3.

Zimmerman pitches a complete game, 13 K, 4 hitter.   But CSS turns a hit batter, walk, wild pitch, single into two runs and gets a pair of solo home runs to pull out the victory.  Point left 10 runners stranded, CSS none. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on May 17, 2006, 09:02:53 pm
Spence:
I can understand your point of view.  Many discussed this earlier in the year as well i.e. DIII teams getting the opporunity to play DII and even DI teams if they desire.  Personally, I like that as well, yet as Pat pointed out, the NCAA has made their policy on this a long time ago and it will continue, despite some of us perhaps not liking it.

Again, you have a valid point; yet I was also only suggesting that option might be a consideration for perhaps some of the teams, say in the southern regions who might not have the opportunity to play other division teams, and that might help them in this regional aspect.  On the other hand, the obvious best way for many teams is to just win your conference's AQ (if they give one) - many teams here in the Great Lakes area go for that, while still being able to get in a few games against DI and/or DII teams during the regular season.  But, admittedly, a team takes a chance doing it that way if for some reason they falter in their conference's tourney to get the AQ, thereby having to rely on an "at large" bid and thus, these regional aspects come into play for consideration for some teams.  Indeed a dilemma for some coaches, but every program has to decide how they want to "handle this" as far as scheduling.  Thanks to all for this interesing discussion and your opinions.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2006, 12:49:18 am
Old School, a lot of the UW-Whitewater in-region record vs. ranked teams is owed to the fact that they were the only ranked team in the WIAC this year. Oshkosh wasn't, Stevens Point wasn't. The WIAC plays 4 game series for conference meetings. So that's 24 games right there. The only northern non-conference series UW-Whitewater played were against Lawrence and Concordia. I don't know why they didn't play Ripon, maybe it wasn't UW-W? I don't know.

They played Augsburg, North Central, Johns Hopkins, MIT, Southern Maine, Gustavus, Williams, and N.C. Wesleyan in Arizona. There's two former national champions and a couple of other solid programs in that list. There's absolutely no shame in that schedule.

UWW got penalized for playing Stout and Superior 4 times, their own slow start (8-6, albeit against the aforementioned schedule) and for the perceived downness of the WIAC (was UWO ranked at all this year?). All of this said, I think Stevens Point was the better team. Out of seven meetings, Whitewater went 3-4, winning two while being outhit 15-7 and 12-6. Aggregate score was 67-40 UWSP. UWSP outhit Whitewater 6 of the 7 games, none at Stevens Point. Them winning the WIAC was not an upset, it was a correction from anomaly.

I think UWW played a better schedule and made a better show of themselves in a tougher conference than tournament than at least one Pool C team that made the field.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RR_Dad on May 18, 2006, 10:32:18 am
Sorry, but I think it is time for the UWW fans to stop whining and just enjoy the  tourney!
 ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2006, 11:20:03 am
Sorry, but I think it is time for the UWW fans to stop whining and just enjoy the  tourney!
 ;)

Easy to say when your team is playing...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 18, 2006, 11:38:03 am
We can only blame ourselves for leaving the decision up to the selection committee. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 18, 2006, 12:51:30 pm
2006 All-WIAC Baseball Team
First Team
Name, School, Year, Position, Hometown (High School)
Eddie Adamson, Whitewater, Senior, Utility, Wheaton, Ill.
Justin Bach, La Crosse, Senior, Secondbase, Wisconsin Rapids (Lincoln)
Ross Bennett, Platteville, Sophomore, Outfield, Mequon (Homestead)
Chuck Brehm, Stevens Point, Senior, Centerfield, Spencer
Adam Dominick, Whitewater, Sophomore, Righthanded Pitcher, Waukesha (West)
Adam Evanoff, Stevens Point, Junior, Firstbase, Plover (SPASH)
Mike Flood, Platteville, Junior, Catcher, Madison (LaFollette)
Jake Frombach, Stevens Point, Senior, Shortstop, Stratford
Mike Jacobson, Whitewater, Sophomore, Lefthanded Pitcher, Oak Creek
Matt Krause, Stout, Sophomore, Catcher, Bonduel
Seth Maier, Stout, Junior, Shortstop, Park Falls
Josh Perkins, Stevens Point, Senior, Righthanded Pitcher, Two Rivers
Andy Podmolik, La Crosse, Junior, Centerfield, Phillips
Ben Prather, Whitewater, Sophomore, Outfield, Shaumburg, Ill. (Conant)
Tim Schneider, Stout, Sophomore, Centerfield, West Salem (Onalaska Lutheran)
Bryan Schwebke, Oshkosh, Junior, Outfield, Oshkosh (West)
Josh Shere, Oshkosh, Senior, Shortstop, Janesville (Craig)
Jordan Stine, Whitewater, Freshman, Outfield, Merrill
Jim Ziegler, Oshkosh, Senior, Righthanded Pitcher, Eden (Campbellsport)
Jordan Zimmermann, Stevens Point, Sophomore, Righthanded Pitcher, Auburndale

Honorable Mention
Joe Bemis, La Crosse, Senior, Righthanded Pitcher, Stoughton
Adam Bretl, Oshkosh, Junior, Righthanded Pitcher, Sturgeon Bay (Southern Door)
Brandon Burgert, Oshkosh, Sophomore, Catcher, Oshkosh (West)
Doug Coe, Stevens Point, Junior, Catcher, Appleton (North)
Scott Decker, Stout, Junior, Righthanded Pitcher, Eau Claire (Memorial)
Steve Ems, La Crosse, Junior, Thirdbase, Waterford (Union)
Mickey Fadness, Oshkosh, Freshman, Secondbase, Eau Claire (Memorial)
Ryan Hopkins, Stevens Point, Junior, Righthanded Pitcher, Libertyville, Ill. (Carmel)
Tony Peterson, La Crosse, Junior, Firstbase/Designated Hitter, Savage, Minn. (Burnsville)
Adam Roos, Oshkosh, Junior, Righthanded Pitcher, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada (Hammarskjold)
Luke Schultz, Stout, Junior, Secondbase, Menomonie
John Stetzenbach, La Crosse, Senior, Shortstop, Waukesha (Wisconsin Lutheran)
Billy Tafs, Superior, Sophomore, Outfield, Hermantown, Minn.
Nick Teach, Whitewater, Senior, Infield, New Berlin (Eisenhower)
Jason Watson, Platteville, Senior, Thirdbase, Boscobel
Matt Zurbriggen, La Crosse, Senior, Righthanded Pitcher, Onalaska

Position Player of the Year: Chuck Brehm of Stevens Point
Pitcher of the Year: Jordan Zimmermann of Stevens Point
Max Sparger Scholar-Athlete: John Stetzenbach of La Crosse
Coach of the Year: Chris Schwarz of La Crosse

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 18, 2006, 10:18:38 pm
Point's really starting to pour it on...

Coe........................... 002 -  2  2  0
UW-Stevens Point.... 136 - 10  7  2


In Point's 3rd,

UW-Stevens Point 3rd - Coe doubled to center field. Schlosser flied out to
rf. Zimmermann grounded out to c; Coe advanced to third. Coe scored on a wild pitch.Scheidler walked. Frombach walked; Scheidler advanced to second. Richter walked;Frombach advanced to second; Scheidler advanced to third. Brehm hit by pitch, RBI;Richter advanced to second; Frombach advanced to third; Scheidler scored. Byrnes homered to right center, 4 RBI; Brehm scored; Richter scored; Frombach scored. Springer to p for Hunt. Evanoff struck out. 6 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 0 LOB.

Nothin' like a wild pitch, 3 straight walks and a hit batter for 2 RBI's... and then giving up a grand slam!  Thanks Coe!

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 19, 2006, 09:27:57 pm
After ending St. Thomas' season 6-2 earlier today, they're up on St. Olaf 9-3 in the 5th.  If things hold, then it looks like another double header against Ripon (of course, with a must-win in the first game... but all of these have been must-wins).  Point already took two games from the Eagles earlier this season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 20, 2006, 11:50:39 am
PS,

Maybe the Red Hawks will be tougher competition than the Eagles.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 20, 2006, 09:41:06 pm
For the second week in a row Stevens Point comes through the losers bracket winning two on the final day to advance to the NCAA III World Series. The Pointers beat top-seeded Ripon 7-4 in today's first game and 6-4 in the championship game to send Point to Appleton next week. Chuck Brehm's two-run homer in the bottom of the eighth inning did the dastardly deed against Ripon.  Point beat Ripon all four games between the two teams this season.

Good luck Point, you have gotten hot at exactly the right time!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 21, 2006, 01:23:32 am
Eagles, Red Hawks... if it was a WIAC team, then I'd really sound bad... but I haven't really followed the MWC much (in anything) and we only played them once in basketball...  :P

Good luck to Point in Appleton!  Is the World Series a double elim like the conference tourney and regional?  Point's got plenty of experience!

From the UWSP website... Point has win 9 straight elimination games in the last week.  That's just awesome!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 21, 2006, 11:21:13 am
See you'all at the Wooden Nickel
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 21, 2006, 12:57:33 pm
I thought this was a down year for the WIAC?? ;)  Any year your conference gets a team to the world series, I would hardly call that a down year. Congratulations to Stevens Point. Maybe a bit overrated at the beginning of the season, but now showing why they were a preseason top 10 team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 21, 2006, 09:41:35 pm
I thought this was a down year for the WIAC?? ;) 
I'll take my crow warm.  Waht can I say, Point definitely surprised me.  I guess I put too much stock in Point beiong swept 4 games by an "average" Oshkosh team.

I will admit when I am wrong, something I seem to be doing a lot lately. ;D
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 22, 2006, 12:22:22 am
Anyone know anything about the other 7 teams?  How are Point's chances?

They've had pretty hot bats this post season, and their pitching has been pretty darn good (to say the least).  Have they got what it takes to keep the NCAA title in Wisconsin?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 22, 2006, 08:04:33 am
They've had pretty hot bats this post season 
Keep in mind however that those fly balls they were hitting in Rapids that turned out to be HR's, will be nothing more than outs at Fox Cities Stadium.  Their offense revolves around the longball, which is going to be tougher to hit in Appleton than it was the past two weekends in Rapids.

As far as their pitching goes, Zimmerman is absolutely lights out right now.  With him on the mound the first game, I think they have a definite chance of beating traditional power Marietta in a 3-2, 2-1 type game.  Should be interesting!!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 22, 2006, 08:37:13 pm
I don't know much about baseball or the WIAC baesball for that matter, but it did seem like it was down a little.  I mean, Whitewater didn't even get an at-large bid, something they got last year on their way to the World Series title.  I didn't hear much from Oshkosh either and Point really didn't turn it on until the post season.  If you go to the Point baseball webpage, there is a link to the college world series, which is run through the Oshkosh webpage...so I guess you could just go there too!

Anyway, Point has 16 losses (I think) and that was the most by any team in the field, I believe.  They play at at 7:45 on Friday, as the last game in the first round.  If I get real bored, I might go over.

I don't know anything about the other teams...let alone the Point team! lol.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 23, 2006, 10:58:05 am
Fox Sports North will be airing the WIAC championship game on Thursday, according to the WIAC homepage.

Check it out (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/06champbroadcast.html)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 23, 2006, 01:11:56 pm
No thanks, I saw the game once and that was enough for me. ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 24, 2006, 10:15:56 pm
HERE (http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/2006/baseballseriesnotes06.pdf) is some information on the World Series teams, according to a review on the Stevens Point Pointer website.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 27, 2006, 03:27:20 pm
Point 9th inning bunt gaffe vs. Marietta was embarrassing. 

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 27, 2006, 04:22:18 pm
Not nearly as embarrassing as (fill in a pot shot at either Lawrence or UWO, whichever school Titan2k is supporting this week).

Oh, by the way, Point is up 5-0 on Aurora in the middle of the 4th.  I believe they're in a rain delay.  They've definately got experience with elimination games.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 27, 2006, 10:53:47 pm
Not nearly as embarrassing as (fill in a pot shot at either Lawrence or UWO, whichever school Titan2k is supporting this week).

Come on PointSpecial...no pot shots are possible since neither Lawrence nor UWO are playing.  Be nice. lol.  ;D :P :D

After a 35 minute rain delay, Point spanks Aurora 12-3, setting up another elimination game tomorrow at noon.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 28, 2006, 11:06:42 pm
Point finally loses an elimination game, going down to Wheaton 5-4.  Great post season run for the Pointers...now to concentrate on the World Cup! lol.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on September 07, 2006, 01:21:40 pm
Platteville names new head coach, Eric Frese.  Well, actually Platteville didn't name him Eric Frese, they named him the new head baseball coach. ;)

http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/ericfrese.html
Title: Preseason predictions??
Post by: BigPoppa on January 09, 2007, 01:17:26 pm
What are the thoughts of the WIACers?

Here is how I see it:
1. Stevens Point
2. Whitewater
3. Oshkosh
4. Lacrosse
5. Platteville
6. ???
7. ???
8. ???

Can anybody help me with their thoughts?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 11, 2007, 03:12:26 pm
I like:

1. Point
2. Whitewater
3. La Crosse
4. Oshkosh
5. Platteville
6. Stout
7. Superior

Big Poppa, unfortunately if you are looking for an 8th place team you'll have to go back in time a few years.  *sigh*
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 11, 2007, 05:56:31 pm
I like:

1. Point
2. Whitewater
3. La Crosse
4. Oshkosh
5. Platteville
6. Stout
7. Superior

Big Poppa, unfortunately if you are looking for an 8th place team you'll have to go back in time a few years.  *sigh*

Thanks... I forgot that they are only a seven team conference. I sure do miss those Bluegolds!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on January 12, 2007, 06:28:42 am
I pretty much agree with you guys. I never count Oshkosh out, and I'm thinking Platteville may fool some people this year with their new field ready to go.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 15, 2007, 12:21:07 pm
The standings will be the same as they always are. Point, Whitewater and Oshkosh, in some order, the top three teams with a wild card thrown in there. I don't think La Crosse will be that team this year. It's too much to replace half of last year's starts with the graduation of Bemis and Zurbriggen, though the soft-tossing combo of Peterson and Benitz was good last year. Totally different Eagles team this year.
Judging solely on returning players, here is how I see it. Once again, Whitewater and Point cleaned up on the top in-state recruits, at least on paper and reputation of the players. Most of the WBCA Classic players who are going to WIAC schools are going to those two.
1. Point
2. Oshkosh
3. Whitewater
4. Stout
5. Platteville
6. La Crosse
7. Superior

--Point just reloaded. Everyone up the middle except Doug Coe is gone, but you know the Pointers will score. The biggest loss is probably Perkins, but that only means Hempstead, Kempf and Thrun get more innings. Nothing wrong with that if your a Pointer fan. They will be tough to beat. This time, even before elimination games.
--Oshkosh, even with Ziegler gone, has a ton of arms. No other team has the quantity of quality pitchers Oshkosh has. They are not Zimmerman, but Roos, Stanke, Hendricks, Bretl, Michaliewicz, Bolton and the rest of the staff are no slouches. Whoever plays shortstop will be vital to any success the Titans have.
--Whitewater is finally without Keller, Teach and Adamson. Seems like they had been around forever. The Warhawks' pitching, while good, is not great. While a very, very good team, I see better teams at Point and Oshkosh. Unless they have at least one stud freshman pitcher, the 'Hawks are down a peg this year.
--Ross Bennett will hit a bunch of bombs, but Platteville loses a lot of familiar names and most of its infield. Aspensen and Slaght are big pitching losses. If Bulaga can anchor the staff and Connelly and Athey become more consistent, Platteville should be OK. The Pioneers will put up a lot of crooked numbers. Whichever team wins the PV/Stout season series is the four-seed.
--The Stout offense should be awesome. Crazy talent with Maier and the rest of the rakers. Its pitching should not be awesome. Anything can happen with that combination. That's why I like the Blue Devils. It's always an oddball as the fourth team, and I was impressed with Stout at the end of last season.
--Superior? Um, no. It's a coin flip whether the Yellowjackets get a WIAC win this season. That program is a mess.


Osh Dude- great preview of the WIAC for us. Thanks! It certainly is a conference of the have and the have-nots! It is one of the nations best conferences, but the weakness of the bottom teams keeps it from being the top dog. The WIAC has multiple national titles, but only among two programs, Oshkosh and Whitewater.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on January 19, 2007, 10:52:41 am
Thanks... I forgot that they are only a seven team conference. I sure do miss those Bluegolds!

And the Falcons.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 01, 2007, 03:18:27 pm
If you had to put together an all-time team for each WIAC school, who makes the cut for each school?

Anybody close to the programs have some thoughts?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 07:46:53 pm
I'll take a stab at Oshkosh's all-time team. Seems like a fun diversion. With rare exception, I'm going with the guys I have seen in person (1987-present). The others just have to be the team.

P Jarrod Washburn (mid 90s)
P Troy Cota (early 80s)
P Craig Glysch (late 90s)
P Andy Kimball (mid 90s)
P Jordan Timm (early 00s)
C Kevin Murdock (mid 80s)
1B Craig Lieder (mid 90s)
2B Jeremy Jirschele (mid 00s)
3B Aaron Richartz (early 90s)
SS Tim Jorgensen (mid 90s -- best position player of all-time?)
OF Jeff Zappa (mid 90s)
OF Terry Jorgensen (mid 80s)
OF Scott Mann (early 90s)
DH Pat McDonald (late 80s)

Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); C Casey Kopitzke (late 90s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s); 2B Don Garvey (early 90s); OF Tom Jeremko (early 80s); OF Erik Morrell (late 90s); SS Kevin Reichardt (mid 80s); 2B Brian Bott (mid 90s); SS Jeff Carl (early 80s); P Todd Evers (late 80s); SS Bruce Schreiber (late 80s); 1B Rusty Tiedemann (mid 80s); 3B Lee Wetenkamp (late 70s).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 01, 2007, 08:28:39 pm
I'll take a stab at Oshkosh's all-time team. Seems like a fun diversion. With rare exception, I'm going with the guys I have seen in person (1987-present). The others just have to be the team.

P Jarrod Washburn (mid 90s)
P Troy Cota (early 80s)
P Craig Glysch (late 90s)
P Andy Kimball (mid 90s)
P Jordan Timm (early 00s)
C Kevin Murdock (mid 80s)
1B Craig Lieder (mid 90s)
2B Jeremy Jirschele (mid 00s)
3B Aaron Richartz (early 90s)
SS Tim Jorgensen (mid 90s -- best position player of all-time?)
OF Jeff Zappa (mid 90s)
OF Terry Jorgensen (mid 80s)
OF Scott Mann (early 90s)
DH Pat McDonald (late 80s)

Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); C Casey Kopitzke (late 90s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s); 2B Don Garvey (early 90s); OF Tom Jeremko (early 80s); OF Erik Morrell (late 90s); SS Kevin Reichardt (mid 80s); 2B Brian Bott (mid 90s); SS Jeff Carl (early 80s); P Todd Evers (late 80s); SS Bruce Schreiber (late 80s); 1B Rusty Tiedemann (mid 80s); 3B Lee Wetenkamp (late 70s).


That is a heck of a list of talent. I would guess that they were each all-americans as well? I doubt that any D3 team can match the talent that UW-O has pushed through its system. Many of those players might end up on the NCAA's all-time list as well.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 08:58:17 pm
Poppa,
All except Murdock at were All-Americans. I chose him over catchers who were All-Americans, though. My first team of 14 players has combined for 24 All-American seasons. That even includes 19 seasons for players on my list not named Jorgensen.
I could have stacked the team even better as Oshkosh has had 58 total All-American seasons (by my count).
I even left a bunch of Oshkosh greats off the list like Jim Gantner, Gary Varsho, Jack Taschner, Doe Boyland, Aaron Luepke, Mike Gasper, etc.
It really is an amazing program with a great tradition.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 01, 2007, 09:01:50 pm

I even left a bunch of Oshkosh greats off the list like Jim Gantner, Gary Varsho, Jack Taschner, Doe Boyland, Aaron Luepke, Mike Gasper, etc.
It really is an amazing program with a great tradition.

Tough to leave 3 big-league players off the team, but it is still a solid team even without them. How many other D3 programs have at least 5 major leaguers (Terry Jorgensen-Twins, Gary Varsho-Cubs, Jarrod Washburn-Angels/Mariners, Jim Gantner- Brewers, Jack Taschner- Giants)? It might be tough for any program to match that one.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 01, 2007, 09:51:02 pm
Tough to leave 3 big-league players off the team, but it is still a solid team even without them. How many other D3 programs have at least 5 major leaguers (Terry Jorgensen-Twins, Gary Varsho-Cubs, Jarrod Washburn-Angels/Mariners, Jim Gantner- Brewers, Jack Taschner- Giants)?
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That's not even all of them. Doe Boyland, Jim Magnuson and Dan Neumeier also made the bigs.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 02, 2007, 10:04:13 am
Here is a list I found with (suposedly) the Wisconsin schools that had MLB players. Beloit suprised me.
Beloit College (7)
 Cardinal Stritch University (1)
 Carthage College (1)
 
Marquette University (1)
 Ripon College (1)
 University of Wisconsin-La Crosse (5)
 
University of Wisconsin-Madison (26)
 University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh (8)
 University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point (1)
 
University of Wisconsin-Superior (1)
 University of Wisconsin-Whitewater (2)
 Viterbo University (1)
 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 02, 2007, 11:24:47 am
Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s);
Both Delarwelle and Mancuso were National POY's and yet they can't crack your 1st team?  Hmmmm......
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 11:36:39 am
Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s);
Both Delarwelle and Mancuso were National POY's and yet they can't crack your 1st team?  Hmmmm......

OshDude has a tough task ahead of him with all the talent at UW-O.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 02, 2007, 12:35:03 pm
Honorable Mention: OF Vince Mancuso (early 00s); UTIL Chris Delarwelle (late 80s);
Both Delarwelle and Mancuso were National POY's and yet they can't crack your 1st team?  Hmmmm......
OshDude has a tough task ahead of him with all the talent at UW-O.
Even with all that talent, UWO has only won the National POY four times (by three different players, Tim Jorgensen twice) which would make one think that all three of those guys would be locks for UWO's all time team.  Heck, I believe Mancuso played four different positions in his four years at UWO (3B, C, LF, and DH) surely he could be listed at one of those spots over someone on that list. ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 03, 2007, 11:10:31 am
Cubs,
That's why we have opinions...express yours with your own team. I won't even take potshots like you do with my posts.
I'm not taking a "pot-shot" at you.....  Just because I think two guys should be on there doesn't mean I'm taking a shot at you.

Also, remember that guys like Mancuso, Kopitzke, and Parnell used wood bats for one season, (1999 I believe) so that affected their all time numbers when comparing them to the other All time greats at UWO.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 03, 2007, 11:40:36 am
I'll give it a try
3b Rick Birkholz
2b Don Garvey
ss Jim Gantner
1b Chris Delarwelle
c  Kevin Murdock
of Lynn Held
of Vince Mancuso
of Terry Jorgensen
p  Jordan Timm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 03, 2007, 04:04:56 pm
Flash,
You went old school on me with a few picks. Did you see any of the older guys play? Wish I could have seen Gantner. Can you give me anything on Birkholz and Held? I never saw them either.
I can't argue with the rest except Mancuso over Zappa or Mann for the reason I stated and no Tim Jorgensen? That's a bold opinion!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 03, 2007, 07:10:44 pm
Just going on what I saw, for the most part. Held turned out to be a good friend of mine through couching in later years, he played with Gantner. I have no realistic knowledge, just thought I'd give you an oldtimers glimpze. I'm totally impressed whith you guys and your knowledge of UWO baseball. There is indeed another generation coming up,
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2007, 07:16:25 pm
Just going on what I saw, for the most part. Held turned out to be a good friend of mine through couching in later years, he played with Gantner.

I am assuming that you meant to say COACHING, but I have a vast array of friends who I now COUCH with as well... especially on Superbowl Sunday.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 03, 2007, 07:57:56 pm
I'm old, but not that old, yes coaching. Thanks.

Now that I think of it, I will be doing some "couching" for the super bowl too!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 04, 2007, 05:10:55 am
Oshdude- I know what you mean about Tim Jorgensen, but I just couldn't leave Gantner off. If it makes you feel better, I will concede Jorgensen had a better arm.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2007, 11:13:24 am
The one thing that truly shows the depth of players at UW-O is the fact that Craig Leider's name has never even been brought up. There was nothing worse than facing Zappa, Jorgensen and Leider in the 2, 3, and 4 holes in the the 1995 World Series, and then seeing Jarrod Washburn on the mound that day. One of the worst days of my life. We battled back to beat Marrietta and Cortland on back to back days, but ran out of juice against eventual national champion Methodist.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 04, 2007, 09:36:42 pm
Poppa,
That team was something else. I did have Lieder on my all-time team. In fact, I had all four of those guys on my team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 04, 2007, 11:23:45 pm
Poppa,
That team was something else. I did have Lieder on my all-time team. In fact, I had all four of those guys on my team.

I still have no idea how that team did not win the title. Second place had to be a huge disappointment for them.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: srpoint on February 06, 2007, 09:52:52 am
UW-Stevens Point All-Time Team
I have been following UWSP for the past 15 years, so I apologize if someone before that I missed on this team.  It did not follow Point when they won 10 games a year, wow things have changed the past 10 years! Not quite as impressive as UW-O, but a pretty good team.
I could not come up with a catcher, ss, 2b / maybe someone else can put some names for this?
Because the Pointers can always hit I put in three DH's!!

DH - Gary Kostuchowski - mid 90's
DH - Steve Wiczek - mid 00's (because of one year)
DH/1b - Ryan Jones - early 00's
1b - Chris Berndt - mid-late 90's
3b - Paul Molitor - early 00's
OF - Chuck Brehm - early 00's
OF - Brian Nelson - mid-late 90's
OF - Randy - early 00's
P - Chris Simonson - mid-late 90's
P - Bill Verbrick - early 00's
P - Jordan Zimmerman - still playing

ANY OTHERS?

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 06, 2007, 10:45:35 am
I could not come up with a catcher, ss, 2b / maybe someone else can put some names for this?
SS-Jake Frombach-All time Hits leader at Point
RP-Jared Szews-All time Saves leader at Point
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 13, 2007, 02:59:06 pm
WW fans may be interested in this.

Bruce Levine of ESPN1000 and Rotoworld are reporting the Cubs have sent Jae-kuk Ryu to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays for prospects RHP Greg Reinhard and OF Andy Lopez (thanks to reader Bogey for the tip). That should clear off the 40-man roster spot needed to add Cliff Floyd.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on February 13, 2007, 07:39:41 pm
The one thing that truly shows the depth of players at UW-O is the fact that Craig Leider's name has never even been brought up. There was nothing worse than facing Zappa, Jorgensen and Leider in the 2, 3, and 4 holes in the the 1995 World Series, and then seeing Jarrod Washburn on the mound that day. One of the worst days of my life. We battled back to beat Marrietta and Cortland on back to back days, but ran out of juice against eventual national champion Methodist.


Big Poppa I was reading this earlier and saw the Methodist and national champion words together.  I spilled my drink.  Methodist was runner up that year, I believe La Verne won it all.  Just didn't want Methodist to get that credit.  You know how rivalries are.   ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on February 13, 2007, 08:35:55 pm
The one thing that truly shows the depth of players at UW-O is the fact that Craig Leider's name has never even been brought up. There was nothing worse than facing Zappa, Jorgensen and Leider in the 2, 3, and 4 holes in the the 1995 World Series, and then seeing Jarrod Washburn on the mound that day. One of the worst days of my life. We battled back to beat Marrietta and Cortland on back to back days, but ran out of juice against eventual national champion Methodist.


Big Poppa I was reading this earlier and saw the Methodist and national champion words together.  I spilled my drink.  Methodist was runner up that year, I believe La Verne won it all.  Just didn't want Methodist to get that credit.  You know how rivalries are.   ;)

You are right... thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on February 14, 2007, 12:38:44 am
No problem
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 22, 2007, 03:35:30 pm
Well it's finally arriving.  Platteville officially kicks of the WIAC nonconference schedule with games against Rockford and Westminster (MO) in Fulton, Mo.

WARHAWKS take the field 3/2 with a double hitter against Edgewood in the Metrodome.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on February 23, 2007, 11:43:43 am
Arrgh!  Platteville gets rained out in Missouri before they even get there:  http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2007/2-22games.html

Just another spring baseball season in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Harrier on February 24, 2007, 07:49:53 pm

AUTOS
(Men)
Bobby Riley (La Crosse) shot - 55-11 (2nd in D3 this season)
La Crosse DMR - 10:00.56 (best in D3 this season)

(Women)
*Katie Fondow (La Crosse) LJ - 19-0 (best in D3 this season)
*Jena Durnin (La Crosse) LJ - 18-10 1/2 (2nd in D3 this season)

PROVOS
(Men)
*Dan Herms (Whitewater) LJ - 23-8 3/4 (best in D3 this season, missed auto by 1/4)
*Clint Christy (River Falls) LJ - 22-10 1/2
Mark Cufaude (Stevens Point) PV - 15-3 3/4
Kyle Steiner (Stevens Point) HJ - 6-9
Oshkosh DMR - 10:04.43
Adam Baumann (Stevens Point) 55m hurdles - 7.74
Jamar Jackson (La Crosse) 55m hurdles - 7.74
Paul Moran (La Crosse) 5,000 - 14:49.28
David Kolbe (La Crosse) 400 - 49.48
A.J. Hollanquest (Oshkosh) 55 - 6.45

(Women)
Jessica Scott (Platteville) 800 - 2:16.65
Nikki Cahen (La Crosse) 5,000 - 17:38.25
Jenny Graef (Oshkosh) 5,000 - 17:40.76
Beth Lutz (Eau Claire) 5,000 - 17:44.11
Lyndsey Thoma (Oshkosh) HJ - 5-5 3/4
*THE OTHER JUMPERS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED EXCEPT KOPESKY

* Maybe...

Does the WICA dominate any other D3 sport like they do track & field?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 27, 2007, 09:25:18 pm
something to do while waiting for the season to start.
http://www.rawlingsgoldglove.com/Voting/Default.aspx
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 27, 2007, 09:26:43 pm
here's my picks

Pitcher:Kaat, Jim
Catcher:Rodriguez, Ivan
First Base:Snow, J.T.
Second Base:Richardson, Bobby
Third Base:Rolen, Scott
Shortstop:Smith, Ozzie
Outfield:Clemente, Roberto
Outfield:Kaline, Al
Outfield:Mays, Willie
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 05, 2007, 09:15:44 am
Whitewater opens their season with a DH split against Edgewood College at the Metrodome.  They won the opener 4-2, and dropped the nightcap 2-0.

Here are the boxscores:
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/statistics/ecbb3021.htm (Game 1)
http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/statistics/ecbb3022.htm (Game 2)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2007, 07:33:07 am
here's my picks; and here are mine

Pitcher:Kaat, Jim
Catcher:Rodriguez, Ivan
First Base:Snow, J.T. Mattingly
Second Base:Richardson, Bobby
Third Base:Rolen, Scott  Brooks Robinson
Shortstop:Smith, Ozzie
Outfield:Clemente, Roberto
Outfield:Kaline, Al    Junior
Outfield:Mays, Willie

Thanks for posting that, except we are in the middle of a great season in Texas.  :D
Title: Zimmerman
Post by: Jcon2134 on March 07, 2007, 10:24:53 am
Why did jordan zimmerman not play in either of the 1st two gams fo Wisconsin stevens point he did not DH or pitch is is hurt?
Title: Re: Zimmerman
Post by: Just Bill on March 07, 2007, 10:56:06 am
Zimmerman took a line drive to the face a couple of weeks ago in practice.  He is expected to return during the Pointers' trip to Florida in two weeks.
Title: Re: Zimmerman
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 07, 2007, 08:14:33 pm
Why did jordan zimmerman not play in either of the 1st two gams fo Wisconsin stevens point he did not DH or pitch is is hurt?
Jcon, I will move this topic into the WIAC board where more interested parties are likely to see it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 08, 2007, 07:47:07 am
Sorry Ralph. Since that was the only post in here for 6 days, just thought we needed something to talk about.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on March 09, 2007, 11:17:40 am
Warhawk website mentions 3 DI transfers....anyone know who the three are and where they transferred from?

http://www.uww.edu/athletics/news_events/2007_03_07_MBaseball_SeasonPre.html
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on March 09, 2007, 05:24:57 pm
Warhawk website mentions 3 DI transfers....anyone know who the three are and where they transferred from?

http://www.uww.edu/athletics/news_events/2007_03_07_MBaseball_SeasonPre.html

Well doing a little detective work and comparing the roster to last year's, I came up with:

1) Jake Wasechek- U of Illinois-Chicago
2) Ben Kuhlmann- Valparaiso
3) Kale Olson- Creighton
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 10, 2007, 02:18:10 pm
WARHAWKS take a pair from Augsburg College 7-6 and 3-1. 

In game one WHITEWATER got up 5-0 after two innings but lost the lead when Augsburg scored 2 in the fifth and 4 more in the top of the seventh.   However the WARHAWKS rallied back for a pair in the bottom of the inning, the game winner scoring on a fielder's choice.  DH Ben Kuhlmann led the way going 1x3 with 3 RBIs while LF Ben Prather drove in a pair going 1x3 at the plate.  Adam Dominick started and went five innings surrendering 2 runs (0 ER) and striking out six.  Mike Kenseth (1-0) got the win in relief.

Augsburg led most of game two 1-0 before the WARHAWKS tied the game when Kuhlman hit a solo home run in the sixth inning and won with a pair of runs in the seventh, the winning run scoring on a throwing error.   Kuhlman and Matt Schliewe each had RBIs for the WARHAWKS.  Mike Jacobson picked up his second win of the season a complete game, 5 hitter with 7k. 

WARHAWKS improve to 3-1 and are idle till 3/17 when we host Wheaton for a pair.  I'll be amazed if the field is playable.   Rain is forecast for Tuesday and Thursday.  Add the melting snow and there's going to be a ton of water to get rid of.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 12, 2007, 01:00:43 pm
Badgerwarhawk-
I was looking through some of the WIAC rosters and noticed Justin Shere is listed on UWO's.  I could have sworn I saw him on a different roster earlier in the year, maybe Whitewater's?  Just curious if he is following his older brother Josh's lead by transferring back and forth.... ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 12, 2007, 02:28:41 pm
I think he was on the LAX roster last year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 12, 2007, 02:51:15 pm
Justin Schere was on LaCrosse's roster last year.  But he only appeared in 2 games with 2 at bats for the season.   To my knowledge he hasn't been on our roster.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on March 13, 2007, 08:59:56 pm
LaX sucks, he made a good move.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 18, 2007, 06:38:42 pm
Point drops a pair of one-run games to two quality opponents to open up thier Florida trip.  They lost to Rowan 7-6 and Wooster 8-7 in 11 innings.  No box scores available yet.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 19, 2007, 10:51:11 am
The WARHAWKS Saturday doublehitter with Wheaton College was cancelled.

For anyone interested in a preview of the WARHAWKS......http://www.uww.edu/athletics/mbaseball/2007%20baseball%20preseason.doc

WARHAWKS get preseason nod from SIDs, Pointer close second......http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/2007prev.html

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Downtown on March 19, 2007, 06:35:56 pm
Quote
LaX sucks, he made a good move.

I laughed a good 5 minutes after reading this.

Seriously, who says something like that? lol...funny stuff.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 20, 2007, 09:11:38 am
Anyone happen to know the status of Catcher Doug Coe at UWSP?  I noticed he was pinch hit for in the bottom of the 4th inning in a 22-13 victory over Manchester College.  Normally I wouldn't think much of it, but I noticed the last out in the Top of the 4th was on a play at the plate.  Thought there may have been a collision or something but obviously you can only get so much from a boxscore.

Also noticed that Jordan Zimmerman is scheduled to start against St. Thomas on Wednesday.  I'll be curious to see how he does in his first start of the season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 22, 2007, 09:31:16 am
Point splits a pair of games against the MIAC yesterday, as they knock off St. Thomas 8-1, before losing to Bethel, 7-4.

Jordan Zimmerman makes his first start of the season and was impressive.  He went 7 innings, giving up 1 unearned run on 5 hits and a walk.  He struck out six.

Doug Coe did not play in either game.  Early reports are that he MAY have torn his ACL in a collision at the plate against Manchester College on Monday.  That would definitely be a blow to the Pointers if that is indeed the case.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 23, 2007, 12:27:38 am
No Coe means no World Series for Point. The conference race will be tight if the early reports are correct. Tough blow for the Pointers and any WIAC baseball fan, really. He's fun to watch.
I could find out this weekend whether he tore his ACL. Bummer, if that's the case. I hope he's OK.
Cubs, let us know if you have the answer before then.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 23, 2007, 10:33:13 am
The MIAC picks up a couple more victories yesterday, this time at the expense of Whitewater, as Gustavus Adolphus sweeps the Warhawks  10-9 and 4-0 (5 innings due to rain).  The one thing that jumped out was that Whitewater lost with their #1 and #2 pitchers on the mound in Jacobson and Dominick.  I'll be curious to see how they do the rest of their trip, because as of now, the WIAC really isn't fairing too well on their repective trips, with La Crosse leading the way at 7-3.  Now if Oshkosh would sweep St. Thomas and St. Olaf the next two days and finish at 9-1, that may change my mind a bit.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2007, 10:35:43 am
It got a little better yesterday cubs as the WARHAWKS beat Central Conneticut State 6-4.  Freshman lefthander Tony Wong got his first win.  SS Greg Harder went 3x3 and scored three times.

Another MIAC opponent, Hamline, today. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2007, 08:42:14 pm
The WIAC really isn't fairing too well on their repective trips, with La Crosse leading the way at 7-3.  Now if Oshkosh would sweep St. Thomas and St. Olaf the next two days and finish at 9-1, that may change my mind a bit.
So much for that thought......  UWO drops 3 out of 4 to St. Thomas (L 13-2 and W 8-4) and St. Olaf (L 13-3 and 5-4) to finish their trip at 6-4. 

Whitewater ups their record against the MAIC, with a 14-3 victory over Hamline to improve to 2-2 on their Arizona trip.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on March 25, 2007, 09:42:14 pm
Was anyone down in Phoenix to watch the UWW-GAC games? Wondering how much weather played a role in the games, as I saw the 2nd game was called after 5. I was able to chat with some players a little after the games, but didn't get to ask about the playing field.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on March 25, 2007, 09:45:27 pm
Whitewater, good job on beating HU 14-3 against Josh Roiger, I don't like the pipers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 26, 2007, 10:17:29 am
Thanks Gustie, WARHAWKS take on a Milwaukee Brewer minor league affilate today.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2007, 09:21:01 am
WARHAWKS Top Brewer Farmhands

UW-WHITEWATER defeated a team of Milwaukee Brewers farmhands destined for various rookie leagues 4-2 in an exhibition game Monday  in Phoenix, Arizona.  WHITEWATER scored three times in the fifth inning on five hits and a sacrifice bunt and added an insurance run in the seventh on a sacrifice fly.  Greg Harder, Ben Prather and Tom Corcoran all had RBI singles in the third.  Harder and Prather both went 2x3 to pace the offense.

WHITEWATER used a different pitcher each inning of the seven inning game.   


Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on March 27, 2007, 11:00:16 am
BW- I see 3 Donovans on the roster? Jeff is the QB and playing outfield? and one is 1b and one pitching? Are any related?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2007, 03:18:40 pm
Flash,

Don't know for sure but, in light of the fact they all attended Wauwatosa East  HS, it would seem very possible.   I'll check around and get back to you when I find out one way or the other. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: kluch on March 29, 2007, 11:21:09 pm
Just got word that ex oshkosh pitcher Jerimiah Gowey was signed by the St. Joe Blacksnakes (a member of the American Association) after working with Chris Bosio for the last year. Congrats to Gowey, he never really had "it" at oshkosh but it seems that he's got his stuff together and is now getting paid to play the game.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on March 30, 2007, 07:45:24 am
The American Association just had their tryouts 3/28 and 3/29 down in Ft Worth. Gustavus' Andy Schmidt went down to tryout and didn't catch on with anyone. He said they made the pitchers wait around in the stands all day and then didn't get to throw that many pitches, so I congratulate Gowey on being able to make an impression and get signed by St Joe.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BlueDevil Bob on April 01, 2007, 03:49:47 pm
Oshkosh comes from behind 5-2 in the top of the 9th in the first game Sunday to win. Solid fundamental baseball.

Back to the mud pit for game 2.  How about some sunshine?  ???  ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 01, 2007, 07:58:18 pm
Eight Oshkosh hitters had two or more hits in Game Two, as they win the nightcap 20-8 to pick up the sweep.  The teams will meet again tomorrow to complete the four game series.

La Crosse takes a pair of games from Superior 11-1 (completion of suspended game Saturday) and 8-1.  They will also try to get in a pair of games tomorrow. 

Stevens Point and Platteville are washed out again, and will try to get in three games tomorrow starting at 10:00.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 02, 2007, 04:35:39 pm
Pointers beat Platteville 5-2 in Game 1 of one of those unique "WIAC Tripleheaders"

I wonder if any other league in the country tries to play four nine-inning games in a weekend, and if that fails, plays three seven-inning games in one day.  I'm guessing no on both counts.

UPDATE:  Point gets a three game sweep, beating the Pios 3-1 and 5-0 in the last two games.
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Post by: BoBo on April 02, 2007, 10:15:39 pm
Interesting looking standings as of 4/2 http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html)
Looks like the haves and have nots with WW squarely in the middle having not played.  Some competitive games played, but clean sweeps across the board.
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on April 03, 2007, 01:37:45 am
Interesting looking standings as of 4/2 http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/index.html)
Looks like the haves and have nots with WW squarely in the middle having not played.  Some competitive games played, but clean sweeps across the board.

Expected Stout to be able to take 1 or 2...just couldn't keep Oshkosh off the boards.
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Post by: OshDude on April 03, 2007, 03:54:20 am
I also thought Stout would get at least one. Stout gave Oshkosh all it could handle last year, and I think Stout has the best offense in the conference.
I still think the Blue Devil hitters will get Stout into the WIAC tournament. They just need to get three of four against La Crosse this year.
Tough loss when Stout hits four bombs and still loses by a dozen because its staff gives up four HRs to Oshkosh.

I'll say it again, with catcher Doug Coe out indefinitely for Stevens Point, the WIAC is wide open. I think Coe is/was the most important position player in the league. Point still has the edge over the league with its pitchers, but the overall gap among the top three teams is virtually gone.
I still think it will come down to the last series of the season between Oshkosh and Point.
That said, I think the WIAC is down this season, especially on the mound. The regional winner will be from Minnesota (I like St. Thomas). I hope I'm proven wrong.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2007, 01:25:36 pm
In the past the teams had the weekend to play a pair of doublehitters and if weather postponed the games they had Monday to make them up.  If I understood correctly games not played by Monday were not made up, in fact I believe they counted as a loss for both teams.  This cost either Oshkosh or Stevens Point (I can't recall which) a share of the regular season conference championship a few years ago when they were unable to complete a series in Superior and was the reason we moved our games w/Superior to the MetroDome last year when weather threatened the series.

I noticed that neither Platteville or Stevens Point has a loss in the conference standings and I was wondering if the conference has changed that rule in either way.  Are they still losses and/or will teams be able to make them up on other dates?   Anyone know.....
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Post by: Just Bill on April 03, 2007, 03:17:37 pm
In the past the teams had the weekend to play a pair of doublehitters and if weather postponed the games they had Monday to make them up.  If I understood correctly games not played by Monday were not made up, in fact I believe they counted as a loss for both teams.  This cost either Oshkosh or Stevens Point (I can't recall which) a share of the regular season conference championship a few years ago when they were unable to complete a series in Superior and was the reason we moved our games w/Superior to the MetroDome last year when weather threatened the series.

I noticed that neither Platteville or Stevens Point has a loss in the conference standings and I was wondering if the conference has changed that rule in either way.  Are they still losses and/or will teams be able to make them up on other dates?   Anyone know.....

Yes, the "weather loss" was tossed out after the one year they used it.  (2003, I think and it did cost UWO a conference title when they had four games washed out at Superior).  It was stupid and the coaches recognized it as such.  So, that wasn't even in play last year.  WW just needed the games against Superior to get their winning percentage up to get the #1 seed.

Games not played by Monday are permenantly cancelled.  That may help a team or hurt a team depending on who they did or didn't play and what the other teams near them in the standings do.

The "weather loss" didn't actually show up on your record and was not posted as a loss on the conference standings.  It was only accounted for when determining the conference champion and seeding for the WIAC Tournament.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2007, 04:17:25 pm
Thanks, Bill.   I guess not realizing the rule had been dropped I just assumed that was the reason for the move to the MetroDome.
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Post by: Just Bill on April 03, 2007, 04:41:25 pm
Thanks, Bill.   I guess not realizing the rule had been dropped I just assumed that was the reason for the move to the MetroDome.

Yes, that rule wasn't in place, but WW still needed the games in order to push their winning percentage up.  Smart move calling the Metrodome, and lucky move that it was available on short notice!
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Post by: Gustie13 on April 03, 2007, 05:35:50 pm
I also thought Stout would get at least one. Stout gave Oshkosh all it could handle last year, and I think Stout has the best offense in the conference.
I still think the Blue Devil hitters will get Stout into the WIAC tournament. They just need to get three of four against La Crosse this year.
Tough loss when Stout hits four bombs and still loses by a dozen because its staff gives up four HRs to Oshkosh.

I'll say it again, with catcher Doug Coe out indefinitely for Stevens Point, the WIAC is wide open. I think Coe is/was the most important position player in the league. Point still has the edge over the league with its pitchers, but the overall gap among the top three teams is virtually gone.
I still think it will come down to the last series of the season between Oshkosh and Point.
That said, I think the WIAC is down this season, especially on the mound. The regional winner will be from Minnesota (I like St. Thomas). I hope I'm proven wrong.

My vote is St Olaf. UST will struggle to score runs against good pitching this season.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 04, 2007, 09:08:20 am
Thanks, Bill.   I guess not realizing the rule had been dropped I just assumed that was the reason for the move to the MetroDome.

Yes, that rule wasn't in place, but WW still needed the games in order to push their winning percentage up.  Smart move calling the Metrodome, and lucky move that it was available on short notice!

If I remember the story correctly the mother of one of our players works in the Twins' front office.  Fortunately the facility was available and it was set up pretty fast.   Superior balked at the idea initially ($, I think) but it got worked out.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2007, 05:43:00 pm
With the entire conference schedule postponed this week due to the weather, I think pitching depth is going to win the WIAC.
To me, that favors Oshkosh and Point and hurts Whitewater, which has a few studs but question marks after that. The tighter schedule hurts Platteville and Stout as well.
Then again it could give good hitting teams like Stout a better chance by allowing them to face lesser pitching. Any thoughts?
In any case, this season got a bit more interesting. I wish I was posting about game results and not the weather, but it's better than nothing.
Point and Platteville are already down a game thanks to the weather, and there's not much wiggle room left in the schedule. I hope more games are not lost and a true regular season champion is decided.
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Post by: janesvilleflash on April 06, 2007, 10:11:40 am
Former WW RHP Greg Reinhard has made the opening roster of the Cubs AA Tennessee Smokies.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 06, 2007, 10:32:59 am
Former WW RHP Greg Reinhard has made the opening roster of the Cubs AA Tennessee Smokies.
Excellent!  Good for him!  That's one more team I'll have to check up on periodoically.  Who is their MLB affiliate?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2007, 11:29:14 am
Chicago Cubs, wipe the sleep out of your eyes Bill. ;)

Kevin Tomasiewicz is with the St Lucie Mets this season.  It's a Class A affiliate.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: balco on April 10, 2007, 12:41:34 am
yikes what an ugly day for whitewater baseball today against point. i'm hoping that jacobson can steal us a victory tomorrow if he's on the mound.
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Post by: OshDude on April 10, 2007, 07:18:16 pm
In a battle of WIAC unbeatens, Oshkosh finished off a sweep of Lax today.

Lax came in averaging about 10 runs per game but scored only seven total runs in the four games.

Oshkosh did just enough on offense in all four games. Nothing spectacular, that's for sure. But UWO had someone different step up in every game.

Yesterday it was the freshman No. 9 hitter, Kyle Kannenberg, who hit a walkoff HR, despite going to the plate with two extra base hits and batting about .180 on the season.

Today it was another frosh, shortstop Derek Leighton, who provided the spark with three bunt hits and some great plays in the field. Freshman catcher Cory Hastings drove in the game-four winner in the bottom of the 10th.

Pitchers Adam Roos, Adam Bretl, Brad Bolton, Jeremy Rubens and Brian Gerl were all very, very sharp. All except the first inning today by Rubens, another freshman, were what I would call fairly dominant. Bretl and Bolton started and won. Gerl won two in relief and saved another.

It's early, but just like the good old days, Oshkosh is back in the WIAC driver's seat at 8-0.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 10, 2007, 08:10:51 pm
WARHAWKS get a split with Point winning both games today 5-4, 8-6.

Mike Jacobson went the distance in game one surrendering 10 hits to up his record to 4-0 on the season.  After trailing 3-0 Point scored a pair of runs in the sixth and seventh to take the lead 4-3 but Jeff Donovan's  two strike, two out, two run home run in the top of the ninth put the WARHAWKS on top for good.

Aaron Dott pitched five and 2/3 innings of relief to get the win in game two.  Trailing 8-4 Point scored single runs in the 7th and 9th to close the gap to two runs before Dott K'd the final hitter.  Greg Harder led WW hitters going 4 for 5 while Tom Donovan and Billy Johnson each had two hits and combined for 5 RBI to pace.

We really needed these two to avoid digging too deep a hole to start the season.   Next up, the Blue Devil at Procha Field.   
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Post by: cubs on April 10, 2007, 11:23:31 pm
Freshman catcher Cory Hastings drove in the game-four winner in the bottom of the 10th.
He also had a 2-run single in Game three, which proved to be the game winner in a 2-1 UWO victory.
Gerl won two in relief and saved another.
What is impressive to me, is that in 8 conference games, Gerl has appeared in 7 of them, earning 3 wins and 3 saves.  Coach Lechnir has been known to ride his starters in the past, but it appears this season he has a valuable arm in Gerl that is able to bounce back in a hurry, and he isn't afraid to go to him.  He lost a game early on their Spring Trip to Saint Norbert in the 9th inning 3-2, but since then he has been lights out giving up 2 ER in 29 IP.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2007, 11:00:52 am
The weather's looking really bad for this weekend though it's suppose to clear up by Monday if the field isn't too wet to play. 

This weather is simply miserable and looks like it's going to continue to mess up the scheduling.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 15, 2007, 02:37:28 pm
Oshkosh 6, Platteville 5, End of 5th inning in Game 1 as I post.
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Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 15, 2007, 03:44:02 pm
Oshkosh 11, Platteville 5, Final, Game 1.

Titans' Gerl came in to pitch the last 3 innings and retired all but one of the batters he faced.
R Demmin also pitched for this game. It's a wonder this one wasn't more of a slugfest than it apparently started out to be.
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Post by: razor_ramone on April 15, 2007, 05:12:52 pm
So did coach Brezowitz and the grounds crew work their magic and get the fields ready to play agin. I know on Thursday that was his bigest worry. Of course their is nothing you can do about the weather this is Wisconsin.
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Post by: cubs on April 15, 2007, 08:24:50 pm
Updated WIAC Standings (Through 4/16)
Oshkosh 11-1
Stevens Point 9-2
Whitewater 5-3
La Crosse 4-4
Stout 4-8
Platteville 1-6
Superior 1-11

Looking at the boxscores, here are a few things that jumped out....

-UWSP is hitting the ball pretty well right now, however their pitching isn't looking too hot.  Zielke, Nix, Kempf, Hopkins and Hemstead all were hit around pretty hard this weekend by a "light" hitting Superior squad.  Each one of them gave up 4 or more runs, with Zielke (4 R in 5 IP) and Hemstead (6 R in 6 IP) being the only two to throw at least 5 innings.

-UWO looks to be the exact opposite.  Their pitching continues to impress (47 runs allowed in 12 WIAC games, including 21 runs in the last 8 WIAC games) however their bats are about as lively as a mosquito in the dead of winter.
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2007, 09:11:34 pm
Yes, Coach Brez and crew worked their magic.  The field looked great.  They also did a great job on the softball diamonds which hosted a doublehitter vs Eau Claire today. 

WARHAWKS win 3 of 4 from Stout, 8-1, 3-7, 6-5 and 9-2.   

Trailing 1-0 WW plated 4 in the 4th and 2 in each the 6th and 8th innings to win Saturday's opener going away.  Bill Gorman led the offense with 4 RBIs on 2x3 at the plate.  Tom Corcoran added 2 RBIs on 3x5 hitting.  A trio of pitchers, Jay Grutzmacher, Adam Dominick and Randy Johnson, were solid on the mound surrendering 7 hits combined.  Dominick got the win with 4 innings of relief.

Game two started fast as the two teams hit solo home runs in their first inning but Stout got another in the fourth and then four in the fifth to go up 6-1.  WW cut the lead to 6-3 but Stout added another for the final.  Mike Jacobson took his first loss of the season as the junior struggled with his control and pitched from behind often. 

The WARHAWKS scored the first run in game three  on a wild pitch in the first and made it stand until Stout got five hits and plated 4 runs in the fourth to take the lead.  WW got two back in the fifth but Stout scored another in the sixth and took the 5-3 lead into the eighth inning.  But WW plated two in the bottom of the eighth and got the game winner on a Jordan Stine double in their ninth.  Relievers Kale Olson and Kevin Harves pitched the final three innings with Harves getting the win by retiring the 3, 4 and 5 hitters for Stout on five pitches to end the game.  Stine went 3x4 with 2. Gorman added two hits and scored the winning run.  Jason Rutz also had two hits.

WHITEWATER plated five runs in the third with five hits highlighted by a grand slam home run by Kevin Zalnis.  Stout got on the board in the fourth but WW added two in their at bat and another in the sixth before Stout got an unearned one in the ninth.  Tony Wong evened his season record at 2-2 with 12 Ks in six innings on the mound.  Tom Corcoran paced the offense going 3x4 with 3 RBIs while Stine and Jeff Donovan each had two hits. 

Oskhosh on Wednesday.

Flash, the Donovans are brothers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: razor_ramone on April 18, 2007, 12:50:21 pm
It looks a lil wet in whitewater today. I am wondering if coach Brez and his grounds crew will work their magic again and have the baseball field ready to go for the games today. If nothing else Whitewater should hire coach Brez as head gorundskeeper. As it doesn't matter how much it rains or snows the fields at Whitewater are always ready to go.
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Post by: cubs on April 18, 2007, 04:33:10 pm
From Point.....
Point knocks off Stout 1-0 in the opener behind a CG two hitter from Jordan Zimmerman.  He struck out 11 while walking four.  Point scored their only run (unearned) in the 5th thanks to dropped fly ball by the RF with two outs.  Ben Warwick followed with a single (one of only 3 Point hits) to drive in the eventual game winner.

Anyone have an update from Whitewater?  I can't get connected on the radio station on the UWO website.  It says they are broadcasting the game....
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Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 18, 2007, 08:45:13 pm
Oshkosh took both games unless WW rallied from a 10-1 deficit in their last two at bats.    Game one went 7-3 to the Titan when they broke a 3-3 tie with four runs after two were out in their final at bat. 
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Post by: Just Bill on April 18, 2007, 09:11:01 pm
Point commits 6 errors, gives up 10 unearned runs and loses to Stout 13-10 in Game 2.   I think that says all I can say.

P.S.  Stout gave up 4 unearned runs on three errors.  A masterpiece this was not.
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Post by: Mr. Downtown on April 24, 2007, 11:45:28 am
I see that Oshkosh is ranked #12 in the nation now.
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Post by: BoBo on April 25, 2007, 08:49:21 pm
WW and Oshkosh split their games today...WW takes the opener 12-4, OWO in the nightcap 10-5.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2007, 08:51:44 pm
Updated WIAC Standings (Through 4/25)
Oshkosh 18-2
Stevens Point 11-4
Whitewater 8-7-1
La Crosse 8-8
Stout 9-11
Platteville 3-11-1
Superior 1-15

UWO is guaranteed a share of the WIAC regular season championship with just one win over UWSP in a pair of DH's this weekend. 

The best race is for the 3-4 spot and a berth in the WIAC conference tournament.  Things could REALLY get interesting with a UWO four game sweep over UWSP (not very likely) this weekend.

We should get a better idea of what kind of team UWL is as they face Whitewater and Stevens Point in a pair of 4 game sets the next two weekends.

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Post by: titan2000 on April 25, 2007, 08:57:45 pm
I thought Superior would have an awesome team this year.   Dissapointing.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2007, 10:04:01 am
Remaining conference schedules:

Oshkosh: @ Stevens Point (4), bye
Stevens Point: Oshkosh (4), LaCrosse (4)
WHITEWATER: @ LaCrosse (4), Superior (4)
LaCrosse: WHITEWATER (4), @ Stevens Point (4)
Stout: bye, @Platteville (4)
Platteville: @Superior (4), Stout (4)
Superior:  Platteville (4), @ WHITEWATER (4)

It could get very interesting but I think, with their pitching, Oshkosh has a good shot at the championship.  But you never know and Point's bats are certainly capable of giving the Titan staff a run for their money but I'd be pretty shocked if they couldn't get that done.

WARHAWKS and LaCrosse, who knows?  We've been so inconsistant that you never know which team is going to take the field.   Obviously WHITEWATER'S chances of repeating as conference champions have evaporated so our only chance of playing after the middle of May is to make the conference tournament and being playing our best baseball.  I'm just not sure what to expect.   If it's more of the same, we've got a problem.  At least the schedule concludes with Superior.  Obviously the series is critical to LaCrosse as well.  Finishing with Stevens Point only makes it more so for them.

I certainly wouldn't rule Stout out of the picture though their chances are slim.  They get a week to rest and then take on Platteville.  They'll probably have to sweep that series to have any chance.  They've got the sticks to do it but I don't think they have the arms.   






Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 27, 2007, 12:32:23 am
I'll stick with my preseason prediction. Stout will be the No. 4 seed.

Not to toot my own horn, but before the season I said the winner of the La Crosse/Stout season series would be the No. 4. I'm pretty sure I'm right (toot, toot).

Lax has not beaten a good team besides Stout (1 of 4) all year. I don't see the Eagles doing much against Whitewater or Point either.

I would go so far as to say Blue Devils are in even if Platteville somehow sweeps them, because that would means Lax has to win 2 of 8 against Point/Whitewater due to the head-to-head tiebreaker.

Lax is not winning 2 of its last 8 games. And that's the best-case scenario. Even though Platteville is dangerous, Stout should at least get a split in that series, forcing Lax to split with SP/WW to earn a berth.

Granted, Stout's pitching is very suspect. But needing a win or two with a week off and the entire staff available against Platteville is much easier than the gauntlet Lax is facing.

Though I have been wrong before ...
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2007, 09:56:01 am
Lax has not beaten a good team besides Stout (1 of 4) all year. I don't see the Eagles doing much against Whitewater or Point either.
In all fairness, La Crosse could have just as well won 3 out 4 from the Titans, losing three 1-run contests.  If they happened to win one or two of those one run games, do you give them a better chance?

I could see La Crosse splitting with both Whitewater and Stevens Point (which would put them at 12-12) and it still won't be enough for them to get in if Stout takes just one of four from Platteville.  They have nobody to blame but themselves however, considering they gave Superior their only win of the season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: balco on April 29, 2007, 07:25:59 pm
Anyone hear the results yet from Whitewater and Lacrosse today?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 29, 2007, 08:02:20 pm
They split, LaX taking the opener 10-0 in 8 innings and the Warhawks in the second 16-10.
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Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2007, 12:39:04 am
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Platteville as the No. 4 seed. All the Pioneers need is to win 3 of 4 at home over Stout and a little help from Stevens Point. That's very possible.

The lost game against the Pointers could turn out to be the most important game of the year. It's hard to assume a Stevens Point win over Platteville in that game, but I would say it's better than 50/50 that Platteville would have another loss had the game been played.

Too bad Whitewater gets Superior. Things would be really interesting if they had Oshkosh to close out the year.

Nevertheless, there is some drama this weekend. The WIAC is always good for that.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2007, 05:57:29 pm
Here's my 2007 all-WIAC team. Don't see these changing in the last four games. Chime in with yours.

1B Brad Demmin (UWO) - .424, 5 HR, 40 RBI, 32 R
1B Seth Maier (Stout) - .416, 7 HR, 29 RBI, 33 R
1B Ross Bennett (Platte) - .383, 9 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R, 10-11 SB (Position POY)
2B Storm Gram (LC) - .403, 1 HR, 30 RBI, 37 R, 8-9 SB
2B Tim Schlosser (STP) - .317, 6 HR, 32 RBI, 22 R
OF Jason Fosler (UWO) - .361, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 35 R
OF Ryan Byrnes (STP) - .363, 6 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R
OF Brandon Scheidler (STP) - .368, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 37 R
OF Erik Johnson (Stout) - .298, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 24 R
OF Bryan Schwebke (UWO) - .338, 6 HR, 22 RBI, 37 R
OF Joel Hojnacki (STP) - .328, 5 HR, 16 RBI, 43 R, 13-16 SB
DH Thomas Corcoran (WW) - .379, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 26 R
DH Mike Kuhn (Platte) - .302, 6 HR, 42 RBI, 24 R
UTIL Adam Evanoff (STP) - .384, 8 HR, 39 RBI, 35 R
UTIL Brad Archambeau (STP) - .403, 5 HR, 34 RBI, 36 R

P Brian Gerl (UWO) - 4-2, 2.85 ERA, 9 saves, 47.1 IP, 42 H, 3 BB, 31 K (Pitcher of the Year)
P Jordan Zimmerman (STP) - 5-0, 2.56, 2 saves, 38.2 IP, 30 H, 9 BB, 40 K
P Brandon Hempstead (STP) - 4-0, 2.18 ERA, 53.2 IP, 47 H, 21 BB, 46 K
P Rob Heller (Stout) - 5-0, 1.99 ERA, 1 save, 40.2 IP, 49 H, 11 BB, 16 K
P Adam Bretl (UWO) - 6-2, 3.70 ERA, 1 save, 56 IP, 52 H, 8 BB, 34 K
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on April 30, 2007, 06:35:16 pm
Here's my 2007 all-WIAC team. Don't see these changing in the last four games. Chime in with yours.

1B Brad Demmin (UWO) - .424, 5 HR, 40 RBI, 32 R
1B Seth Maier (Stout) - .416, 7 HR, 29 RBI, 33 R
1B Ross Bennett (Platte) - .383, 9 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R, 10-11 SB (Position POY)
2B Storm Gram (LC) - .403, 1 HR, 30 RBI, 37 R, 8-9 SB
2B Tim Schlosser (STP) - .317, 6 HR, 32 RBI, 22 R
OF Jason Fosler (UWO) - .361, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 35 R
OF Ryan Byrnes (STP) - .363, 6 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R
OF Brandon Scheidler (STP) - .368, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 37 R
OF Erik Johnson (Stout) - .298, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 24 R
OF Bryan Schwebke (UWO) - .338, 6 HR, 22 RBI, 37 R
OF Joel Hojnacki (STP) - .328, 5 HR, 16 RBI, 43 R, 13-16 SB
DH Thomas Corcoran (WW) - .379, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 26 R
DH Mike Kuhn (Platte) - .302, 6 HR, 42 RBI, 24 R
UTIL Adam Evanoff (STP) - .384, 8 HR, 39 RBI, 35 R
UTIL Brad Archambeau (STP) - .403, 5 HR, 34 RBI, 36 R

P Brian Gerl (UWO) - 4-2, 2.85 ERA, 9 saves, 47.1 IP, 42 H, 3 BB, 31 K (Pitcher of the Year)
P Jordan Zimmerman (STP) - 5-0, 2.56, 2 saves, 38.2 IP, 30 H, 9 BB, 40 K
P Brandon Hempstead (STP) - 4-0, 2.18 ERA, 53.2 IP, 47 H, 21 BB, 46 K
P Rob Heller (Stout) - 5-0, 1.99 ERA, 1 save, 40.2 IP, 49 H, 11 BB, 16 K
P Adam Bretl (UWO) - 6-2, 3.70 ERA, 1 save, 56 IP, 52 H, 8 BB, 34 K

Are those WIAC-only stats or all season?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2007, 08:31:50 pm
Jeff Donovan, WW...........  .377,    5 HR  26 RBI  33 R  .447 Slug%   4-5  SB/Att  (Season Stats)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2007, 09:15:24 pm
Here's my 2007 all-WIAC team. Don't see these changing in the last four games. Chime in with yours.

1B Brad Demmin (UWO) - .424, 5 HR, 40 RBI, 32 R
1B Seth Maier (Stout) - .416, 7 HR, 29 RBI, 33 R
1B Ross Bennett (Platte) - .383, 9 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R, 10-11 SB (Position POY)
2B Storm Gram (LC) - .403, 1 HR, 30 RBI, 37 R, 8-9 SB
2B Tim Schlosser (STP) - .317, 6 HR, 32 RBI, 22 R
OF Jason Fosler (UWO) - .361, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 35 R
OF Ryan Byrnes (STP) - .363, 6 HR, 35 RBI, 40 R
OF Brandon Scheidler (STP) - .368, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 37 R
OF Erik Johnson (Stout) - .298, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 24 R
OF Bryan Schwebke (UWO) - .338, 6 HR, 22 RBI, 37 R
OF Joel Hojnacki (STP) - .328, 5 HR, 16 RBI, 43 R, 13-16 SB
DH Thomas Corcoran (WW) - .379, 5 HR, 37 RBI, 26 R
DH Mike Kuhn (Platte) - .302, 6 HR, 42 RBI, 24 R
UTIL Adam Evanoff (STP) - .384, 8 HR, 39 RBI, 35 R
UTIL Brad Archambeau (STP) - .403, 5 HR, 34 RBI, 36 R

P Brian Gerl (UWO) - 4-2, 2.85 ERA, 9 saves, 47.1 IP, 42 H, 3 BB, 31 K (Pitcher of the Year)
P Jordan Zimmerman (STP) - 5-0, 2.56, 2 saves, 38.2 IP, 30 H, 9 BB, 40 K
P Brandon Hempstead (STP) - 4-0, 2.18 ERA, 53.2 IP, 47 H, 21 BB, 46 K
P Rob Heller (Stout) - 5-0, 1.99 ERA, 1 save, 40.2 IP, 49 H, 11 BB, 16 K
P Adam Bretl (UWO) - 6-2, 3.70 ERA, 1 save, 56 IP, 52 H, 8 BB, 34 K

Are those WIAC-only stats or all season?
Season.
Edit: I now understand why you asked ... good point. Without going back to look at WIAC-only stats, I'll go with this team anyway.

Jeff Donovan, WW...........  .377,    5 HR  26 RBI  33 R  .447 Slug%   4-5  SB/Att  (Season Stats)

Donovan and Andy Podmolik were my last two off the team.

If you took anyone off my team for JD, who would it be? My guess is either Schlosser or Schwebke. But I'm curious anyway. It was tough to get it from about 18 to 15 offensive guys. I can't argue with JD being on there.

Also tough to leave off Ross Benitz and a couple other pitchers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2007, 10:35:04 am
Schlosser, Schwebke and/or Johnson.

I wondered about Podmolik when I saw your list but his numbers are a little down this year though he's still an exceptional player.

While my general perception is that the league, as a whole, is having a down year there are still a lot of very good players and I agree whitling the pack down to that few short changes someone.  I thought your's was a pretty good list.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 01, 2007, 11:04:22 am
Former WW RHP Greg Reinhard has made the opening roster of the Cubs AA Tennessee Smokies.
Excellent!  Good for him!  That's one more team I'll have to check up on periodoically.  Who is their MLB affiliate?

Without checking I expect they are a Chicago Cubs minor league team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2007, 11:32:39 am
Former WW RHP Greg Reinhard has made the opening roster of the Cubs AA Tennessee Smokies.


You are correct, JD.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2007, 12:17:21 am
That didn't take long. All the top teams took care of business, and the seeds are locked in for the WIAC tournament.

#1 Oshkosh
#2 Stevens Point
#3 Whitewater
#4 Stout

Now all that is left is the all-conference team. Stout OF Erik Johnson probably secured his spot with a big day against Platteville. So did Stout SP Rob Heller, who improved to 6-0.

Anyone else have an all-conference team?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 05, 2007, 01:26:55 am
Could be an interesting matchup between Stout and Oshkosh in the first round. Would assume Heller would pitch for Stout, and he left with a lead against them in the regular season before the bullpen blew it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2007, 01:39:04 am
Could be an interesting matchup between Stout and Oshkosh in the first round. Would assume Heller would pitch for Stout, and he left with a lead against them in the regular season before the bullpen blew it.

I agree, Spence. Besides facing Stevens Point with Zimmerman on the mound, I think Stout and those bats (and Heller) is the next worst scenario for Oshkosh.

Good thing Oshkosh probably has a Pool C bid going in because Stout is not your average WIAC #4 seed.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on May 05, 2007, 02:10:46 am
Maybe. An 0-2 would make it kind of iffy.

I'm curious to see what UWSP does with their pitchers. Both Zimmerman and Hemstead should stand a decent chance against Whitewater, but Zimmerman would stand a lot better chance against Oshkosh in a theoretical second game. That said, you have to win the first one to win the first two.

I'd have a hard time not throwing Zimmerman, but it's tempting.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 05, 2007, 09:27:34 am
I think Oshkosh is anything but a lock for a Pool C bid.  Too many upsets across the nation and Oshkosh will have no safety net left.  It wouldn't surprise me if this was a 1 bid year for the WIAC.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2007, 10:54:03 am
I see it pretty much the same way, Bill.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2007, 04:29:25 pm
If Point wins the tourney and Oshkosh gets a win, I think both are in.

If Whitewater or Stout wins over anyone but Oshkosh in the final, I think the WIAC gets one bid.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 07, 2007, 08:12:20 pm
I ran some QOWi numbers, and most Midwest Region teams need to do more than they think. These results should be very close, though I have four more St. Scholastica in-region games than the previous rankings had.

Though there are many criteria, on the national board many posters think 9.7 is a reasonable cutoff for at-large bids using the QOWi criterion.

Let me know if I made any errors or if another team should be considered.

Numbers through Sunday's games:
1. Oshkosh 10.32
2. St. Olaf 10.04
3. Ripon 9.7
4. St. Thomas 9.66
5. Stevens Point 9.61
6. St. Scholastica 9.33
7. St. Norbert 9.2
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 08, 2007, 10:53:31 pm
Does Gillespie wear a uniform or one of those silly sport coats he wears when he coaches Hoops?

Better dead than Red.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2007, 04:19:48 pm
UWO 7
UW Stout 9 (10 innings)

Currently in the 7th:
Whitewater 1
Stevens Point 2
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 11, 2007, 05:55:05 pm
Here's my updated 2007 all-WIAC team, which uses only conference stats (24 possible games, in most cases). There were a couple changes from the original.

1B Brad Demmin (UWO) - .455, 5 HR, 36 RBI, 27 R (Co-Position POY)
1B Seth Maier (Stout) - .398, 5 HR, 22 RBI, 28 R
1B Ross Bennett (Platte) - .366, 5 HR, 21 RBI, 21 R (Co-Position POY)
2B Storm Gram (LC) - .443, 2 HR, 18 RBI, 25 R
2B Tim Schlosser (STP) - .354, 5 HR, 24 RBI, 18 R
OF Jason Fosler (UWO) - .390, 5 HR, 27 RBI, 28 R
OF Ryan Byrnes (STP) - .358, 4 HR, 22 RBI, 28 R
OF Brandon Scheidler (STP) - .354, 2 HR, 25 RBI, 22 R
*OF Jeff Donovan (WW) - .376, 4 HR, 22 RBI, 31 R
OF Erik Johnson (Stout) - .347, 7 HR, 33 RBI, 25 R
OF Bryan Schwebke (UWO) - .320, 5 HR, 16 RBI, 27 R
*OF Jordan Stine (WW) - .442, 5 HR, 24 RBI, 30 R
DH Thomas Corcoran (WW) - .396, 3 HR, 30 RBI, 16 R
UTIL Adam Evanoff (STP) - .398, 5 HR, 28 RBI, 26 R
*UTIL Mickey Fadness (UWO) - .396, 2 HR, 25 RBI, 20 R

P Brian Gerl (UWO) - 4-1, 3.10 ERA, 7 saves, 40.2 IP, 34 H, 2 BB, 24 K (Pitcher of the Year)
P Jordan Zimmerman (STP) - 5-0, 2.60, 2 saves, 34.2 IP, 26 H, 9 BB, 42 K
P Brandon Hempstead (STP) - 3-0, 2.66 ERA, 44 IP, 42 H, 16 BB, 32 K
P Rob Heller (Stout) - 4-0, 1.89 ERA, 1 save, 33.1 IP, 36 H, 18 BB, 17 K
P Adam Bretl (UWO) - 5-1, 4.54 ERA, 37.2 IP, 40 H, 6 BB, 22 K

*Different from my last team

Just missed:
DH Mike Kuhn (Platte), OF Joel Hojnacki (STP), OF Scott Dybevik (Platte), UTIL Brad Archambeau (STP), OF Ben Prather (WW), P Ross Benitz (Platte), P Adam Roos (UWO), P Joe Cox (Platte), P Ben Sivertson (Stout), P Matt Doornink (Stout).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 11, 2007, 07:21:53 pm
Point beat Whitewater 5-4.

Oshkosh def. Whitewater 7-4. WW is eliminated.

Point vs. Stout just underway.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 12, 2007, 09:10:22 pm
I liked Gerl for pitcher of the year. Only 2 walks is amazing.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2007, 01:08:57 am
Nice little photo gallery from the WIAC Tournament courtesy of the Stevens Point Journal.  As you can guess it fetures Point the most, but includes shots of every team:

http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=U0&Dato=20070513&Kategori=SPJNEWS&Lopenr=705130804&Ref=PH
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2007, 09:05:33 am
UW-Stevens Point to host NCAA Regional at Witter Field in Wisconsin Rapids:

http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/2007/NCAAbid07.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 14, 2007, 03:13:43 pm
Anyone else think the two best teams are playing in the first round of the Midwest Regional? St. Thomas and Oshkosh deserved better, IMO. I admit Point deserves the No. 1 or 2 seed, but I think Oshkosh is a better team.

Seeds 3-5 are not what I thought they would be. Why did Ripon have to sweep Point earlier in the season? That screwed everything up. Ripon is not a No. 3 seed, but I understand why they are.

My seeds would be:
1. St. Thomas
2. Stevens Point
3. Oshkosh
4. Ripon
5. St. Olaf
6. St. Scholastica

The winner of St. Thomas/Oshkosh will play in Grand Chute. I'll go with my heart and pick Oshkosh over Point in the championship.

Any other predictions?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 14, 2007, 04:24:47 pm
I agree probably St. Thomas and Oshkosh are the two best teams and the winner of that could be going to Appleton. But dont count out the winner of the Stevens Point/Scholastica matchup because the winner of that game gets the loser of Ripon and Olaf so whoever wins between Point and Scholastica could be looking pretty.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2007, 08:38:55 pm
Wisconsin Rapids Regional web site:

http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/NCAARegional07.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: John Gleich on May 16, 2007, 02:05:12 pm
Point leading 3-1 after 3 innings.  One run per inning for Point, two of those were unearned due to three St. S errors.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 16, 2007, 02:33:41 pm
The all-WIAC team is posted. I don't agree with the Pitcher and Position Players of the Year, but I can see why Jordan Zimmerman and Seth Maier were selected. They are both really good, but as far as the best in 2007, I have my doubts.

Flip a coin between Zimmerman and Brian Gerl from Oshkosh for Pitcher of the Year. I'll give them that one. In fact, I'm probably in the minority in thinking Gerl was the Pitcher of the Year.

Although I really respect Maier's abilities (he's probably my favorite WIAC hitter to watch), he simply was not the best player in 2007. He'd be my fourth choice after Brad Demmin from Oshkosh, Ross Bennett from Platteville and Whitewater's Jordan Stine. Just going by numbers, Maier's teammate Erik Johnson had the better 2007.

Overall, I think the team looks good. My team and the actual team had one difference -- La Crosse's Andy Podmolik got a lifetime achivement nod instead of the more deserving 2007 performance of Point's Brandon Scheidler. I'm OK with that. If anyone deserves it, it's Podmolik.

http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/07allcon.htm (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/07allcon.htm)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2007, 02:47:05 pm
Point 3
CSS 3   Bottom of 7th

-Zimmerman has been a victim of the long ball, giving up 2 HR's, which have accounted for all of CSS's runs.  He does however have 9 K's and 0 BB's in 7 IP.

-Point was able to chase CSS's #1 Moriarity, after only 5 IP.  It will be interesting to see if they can get something going against their bullpen.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2007, 02:57:47 pm
-Point was able to chase CSS's #1 Moriarity, after only 5 IP.  It will be interesting to see if they can get something going against their bullpen.

Short answer:  Yes they can.

Point puts up six in the bottom of the 7th to take a 9-3 lead.  Zimmerman homered to start the inning, and the Pointers scored 5 more times on just 1 more hit, 2 CSS errors, a HBP and 2 wild pitches.  CSS really killing themselves with 5 errors and 7 unearned runs.

Zimmerman cruising along with 11 K's and no walks.  The two HR's are the only blemishes on an otherwise great outing.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2007, 03:17:24 pm
Point tacks on two more unearned runs in the eighth.  Now lead 11-3.  Good to see Point winning, but who could have imagined CSS committing six errors.  That won't help them overcome their conference's weak reputation.

UPDATE:  Game is now final - UWSP 11, CSS 3

http://www.uwsp.edu/athletics/baseball/NCAAregional07/ncaa1.htm
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 01:18:24 pm
Ripon jumps on Point and Mike Thurn early scoring four runs in the Top of the 1st inning to get out to an early 4-0 lead.  Bo Johnson provided the big blow with a 3-run HR. 

It will be interesting to see how long Coach Bloom stays with Thurn in this elimination game.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 01:30:11 pm
Point returns the favor, and scores three in their half of the first on HR's by Schlosser and Evanoff to make it 4-3.  Point actually had the bases loaded, however Hojnacki hit into a fielders choice to end the inning.

I wounder if this will be one of those 15-12 type elimination games??
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 01:52:23 pm
Ripon tacks on three more in the 2nd, coming on 3 RBI singles to chase Zurn.  (Zielke gets the final out of the inning.)  Schlosser hits his 2nd HR of the day in the bottom of the 2nd, to make it 7-4 Ripon.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2007, 01:56:11 pm
WOW!!!! Sounds like a slow-pitch softball game broke out in Wisconsin Rapids.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 02:11:27 pm
WOW!!!! Sounds like a slow-pitch softball game broke out in Wisconsin Rapids.
Ain't that the truth!!!  To add to that, Ripon 1B Bo Johnson was ejected for "elbowing" UWSP 1B Adam Evanoff after grounding out to him to end the 2nd inning.

Score is now 8-4 Ripon, after Catcher John Dunlavy's HR in the 4th for Ripon.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 18, 2007, 03:32:19 pm
Point scores 5 in the 9th to win 11-10.  They will take on St. Thomas at 7:00 pm tonight.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2007, 03:33:19 pm
Point scores 5 in the 9th to win 11-10.  They will take on St. Thomas at 7:00 pm tonight.

WOW! Heart-breaking loss for the Redhawks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on May 18, 2007, 04:32:33 pm
Was anyone at the game to see the elbow and ejection? Was it legit?
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 18, 2007, 10:34:10 pm
Point beat St. Thomas 6-3 tonight to advance to the championship game.  Here is Saturday's schedule:

Game #10 - Noon - St. Thomas (2-1) vs. UW-Oshkosh (2-1)
Game #11 - 3:30 p.m.- UW-Stevens Point (3-1) vs. Winner Game 10 (Championship Game)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 19, 2007, 07:43:12 am
Was anyone at the game to see the elbow and ejection? Was it legit?

Bo lost his cool on the basketball court a few times too.

Why can't Gillespie discipline these guys. 

Better Dead Than Red.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 19, 2007, 09:16:22 am
Was anyone at the game to see the elbow and ejection? Was it legit?
Bo lost his cool on the basketball court a few times too.

Why can't Gillespie discipline these guys. 

Better Dead Than Red.
Must mean you'd rather lose than win, with the amount of games the Lawrence Baseball team has won over the past 20+ years.....  Feel free to make the MWC Tournament at least once, much less the NCAA Tournament. ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: titan2000 on May 20, 2007, 07:07:59 pm
Bo Johnson is the topic.

Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: RR_Dad on May 23, 2007, 08:02:09 am
Was anyone at the game to see the elbow and ejection? Was it legit?
Don't think it was legit.  The 2nd base ump said he wouldn't have thrown him out.  Bo was just bracing for contact with Evanoff, but the ump didn't see it that way.  Just so happens to be the same ump that threw him out of a game last year.  Me thinks he has it out for him.  Was pretty weak ejection considering the importance of the game.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 01, 2007, 11:44:03 am
It looks like three WIAC players will be suiting up in the Northwoods League this summer.  UW-W's Adam Dominick will be pitching for the LaCrosse Loggers and centerfielder Jordan Stine is playing for the Wisconsin Woodchucks.  UW-O's Mickey Faddness is on the Eau Claire Express roster.  He drove in their only run last night in a 2-1 loss to Madison.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 01, 2007, 07:01:05 pm
It looks like three WIAC players will be suiting up in the Northwoods League this summer.  UW-W's Adam Dominick will be pitching for the LaCrosse Loggers and centerfielder Jordan Stine is playing for the Wisconsin Woodchucks.  UW-O's Mickey Faddness is on the Eau Claire Express roster.  He drove in their only run last night in a 2-1 loss to Madison.

FYI: there is a D3 summer wood bat league chat on the National board
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on June 07, 2007, 06:38:16 pm
UWSP's Jordan Zimmerman was selected by the Washington Nationals in the second round (67th pick).
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on June 07, 2007, 06:54:33 pm
UWSP's Jordan Zimmerman was selected by the Washington Nationals in the second round (67th pick).

Congrats to him!  :) ;) :D 8)
Title: Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on August 24, 2007, 07:58:48 pm
Alanta Braves cutting ties with former UW-W pitcher Bob Wickman by designating him for assignment.


http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10316731 (http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10316731)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 11, 2008, 02:34:29 pm
Can anybody preview the WIAC for me?

With two teams in the top 11 (UWSP #7 and UWO #11) it appears that it is going to be quite a battle for the conference.

How does Whitewater look? Who appears to the the #4 team (assuming that UWSP, UWO and UWW are 1-3)?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 15, 2008, 09:55:06 am
BP-
Oshkosh returns 8 out of their 9 starters from last season, only having to replace Schwebke in CF (although he put up some nice numbers as a 1st Team All WIAC selection .355 BA 17 2B, 4 3B, 10 HR.) 

The Titans weakness, may be their pitching staff.  They only return one pitcher who threw more than 30 innings last year (Jeremy Reubens-51.2 IP.)  They will need to replace three All WIAC pitchers (Adam Bretl, Brian Gerl, and Adam Roos) and two other seniors in Cal Stanke (drafted in the 15th round by the LA Dodgers) and Brad Bolton who accounted for over 70% of both the teams victories (25 out of 35) and innings pitched (304 of the 413 IP.)  To say they will need some freshman to step up would be an understatement.....

As far as the 4th team, I would have to think that Stout has the inside track at this time.  (Depending on other schools recruits, I may be swayed.)  They return 1st Team All WIAC OF Eric Johnson, along with Honorable Mention All WIAC selections at C, SS, and P. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 17, 2008, 12:07:58 am
Whitewater is my preseason pick, followed by Oshkosh and Stevens Point in third.

The other? I like La Crosse. Like the lineup and, unlike the other two contenders, there are some decent arms.

I just don't think Stout can get anyone out. Then again, that offense will be tough to stop, even without Seth Meier.

Platteville should give LAX and Stout a run for the fourth spot. You could do worse than that lineup, and I actually really like a couple of the PV pitchers.

Superior? Not so much.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 17, 2008, 09:48:43 am
I think when you look at the "Big Three" they are all have "weaker" pitching staffs.

Oshkosh-Already went over their short-comings in my previous post. 

Stevens Point-They return Brandon Hemstead, however I have heard that he has some shoulder problems and had surgery around Thanksgiving.  If that is the case, both Kempf and Thurn will need to step up in a big way to carry the load. 

Whitewater-Returns Jacobson (the only pitcher on the staff with an ERA under 4.00 (3.84)) but after that it is slim pickings.  There is a reason he threw over 30 more innings (79.2) than anyone else on the staff (47.1) last season.  They lost their #3 (in terms of IP) to graduation as well (Grutzmacher-42.1 IP.)

Again, depending on recruits/transfers, 13-12 games may be the norm this season with the lack of returing quality pitchers.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on January 17, 2008, 12:52:58 pm
I think when you look at the "Big Three" they are all have "weaker" pitching staffs.

Oshkosh-Already went over their short-comings in my previous post. 

Stevens Point-They return Brandon Hemstead, however I have heard that he has some shoulder problems and had surgery around Thanksgiving.  If that is the case, both Kempf and Thurn will need to step up in a big way to carry the load. 

Whitewater-Returns Jacobson (the only pitcher on the staff with an ERA under 4.00 (3.84)) but after that it is slim pickings.  There is a reason he threw over 30 more innings (79.2) than anyone else on the staff (47.1) last season.  They lost their #3 (in terms of IP) to graduation as well (Grutzmacher-42.1 IP.)

Again, depending on recruits/transfers, 13-12 games may be the norm this season with the lack of returing quality pitchers.



As for the Whitewater staff, Jacobson is a bulldog who, in terms of talent, put up below-average numbers last year. I think he'll bounce back and lead the staff better than last year.

Aaron Dott is the key. That dude can pitch. I have no idea what happened to him last year, but I would be surprised if he didn't make a push for all-conference, if not make the first team.

After those two starters, WW still has depth. Granted, Grutzmacher is a big loss. But Wong, Johnson, Dominick and Severson all have outstanding stuff. And WW still has other decent pitchers like Riek, Harves and Greg Donovan.

Jake, Johnson and Dominick have all been through the league a few times. I think that matters. Then add Dott, Wong and Severson? I don't think another WIAC team can beat that. Jake might not be the best No. 1 pitcher in the league, but the other pitchers are either solid or have a lot of potential.

I'm with you on the rest. Some very good lineups and questionable pitching in the WIAC.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on January 17, 2008, 02:53:57 pm
You have much higher expectations for the Whitewater pitching staff than I do......

I just can't get too high on some of these guys who finished last season with ERA's between 5.50-7.00 or higher.  The majority have a BA against around .300 or higher.

Dott-5.65 ERA .294 BAA
Johnson-6.19, .329
Dominick-5.32, .295
Severson-6.94, .244 (11 BB, 6 K)
Wong-7.18. .346
Riek-6.33, .341
G. Donovan-7.20, .300
Harves-7.36, .349

Comparing numbers to the other staffs around the WIAC, these numbers aren't any better than anyone else's.  The only difference, is that they return more arms, which doesn't really help unless they are quality, which I think the numbers show otherwise.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on January 17, 2008, 03:16:44 pm
Since many of the WIACers are expecting high scoring games, the pitching stats are not a surprise. The WIAC has always been known to produce some great hitters that can quickly skew an ERA or two.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on January 31, 2008, 01:03:23 pm
Kris Edwards for Whitewater had a solid freshman season in 2006 with a 4.97 ERA...last year he had an injured arm or elbow...will he be back in 2008?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on February 01, 2008, 02:18:06 pm
Keith Law of ESPN has Zimmerman ranked #83 in his list of MLB prospects:

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3222287 (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3222287)

"Zimmerman has a chance for four solid-average pitches and excellent control, projecting as a No. 3 starter if his command improves. He's very athletic and has a loose, fluid arm action, and wasn't worked as hard as most college pitchers due to a broken jaw in his final spring in school."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 07, 2008, 09:12:47 am
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 07, 2008, 04:20:13 pm
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.

Disagreement is good, and I disagree with most of your post.

But you can't just leave us hanging. Care to elaborate on this intriguing nugget?

Welcome to the board.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 09, 2008, 11:51:11 am
WORD IS OUT ON THE WHITEWATER PROGRAM, RECRUITS ARE NOW GOING TO PROGRAMS WHERE BASEBALL IS STILL A GAME. PLAYERS GO TO STEVENSPOINT AND THEY STAY WITH THE PROGRAM FOR FOUR YEARS (SEVEN SENIORS THIS YEAR IN THEIR FOURTH YEAR WITH THE TEAM). OSHKOSH AND STEVENSPOINT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN RECENT YEARS BECAUSE THEY PLAY WITH THEIR HEARTS NOT THEIR MOUTHS. PLAYERS ACTIONS ON AND OFF THE FIELD ARE A REFLECTION OF THEIR COACH, NUFF SAID. THIS IS WHY I FEEL THAT POINT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL AGAIN THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE CORE OF THE TEAM HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR YEARS. .OSHKOSH IS A VERY TALENTED TEAM. LEIGHTON IS THE BEST SHORTSTOP IN THE LEAGUE, FOSLER AND DEMMIN ARE TWO OF THE MOST FEARED HIITERS. WHEN THEIR PITCHING MATURES AND FADNESS RETURNS, THEY WILL BE A COMPLETE TEAM. OSHKOSH WILL WIN ALOT OF GAMES THIS YEAR BUT THEY WILL BE BETTER NEXT YEAR. STOUT AND SUPERIOR WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE, THE COACHES ARE DOING A NICE JOB WITH THOSE PROGRAMS.
webjem, Welcome to the message boards.  The WIAC is always a great message board.  They have a large group of loyal fans that provide good information.

Also, please review the Terms of Service agreement that you saw when you signed on.  The use of ALL CAPS is strongly discouraged.
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Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 09, 2008, 12:46:41 pm
My pre-season picks for players to watch this season, by position. catcher-Krause  Stout. 1B-Bennett  Platteville. 2B-Schlosser  Stevens Point. SS-Leighton  Oshkosh. 3B-Stace  Stout. OF-Fosler  Oshkosh,  Scheidler Stevens Point,  Corcoran  Whitewater. DH-Coe  Stevens Point. Pitchers-Thrun  Stevens Point,  Hemstead  Stevens Point,  Jacobson  Whitewater,  Benitz  La Crosse. Any comments or additions?? I'm always looking for good players to watch around the league.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 09, 2008, 01:38:52 pm
It's alright -- the ALL CAPS is considered shouting in message board circles so we discourage it. No harm no foul on one post. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 11, 2008, 06:08:13 am
webjem- Am I right, that you're picking yourself as a "pitcher to watch"?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2008, 09:09:18 am
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.
I would hope you feel that Stevens Point is best team in the WIAC considering you pitch for them......  I can see you aren't lacking any confidence. ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 11, 2008, 10:45:51 am
I'd be interested in knowing just what "internal problems" exist at WHITEWATER
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 11, 2008, 05:37:40 pm
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.
I would hope you feel that Stevens Point is best team in the WIAC considering you pitch for them......  I can see you aren't lacking any confidence. ::)

webjem's e-mail is not for a UWSP pitcher. It's for a UW-Madison employee or student.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 11, 2008, 07:55:45 pm
Aha, there's a BW who works for UW who was born in 55. Dad, is that you? Actually, it's nothing to be ashamed of, the kid is damn good.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2008, 10:21:26 pm
the kid is damn good.
I would agree with you but with one "minor" word change......

He has been damn good in the past......  Will he be damn good this season?  I'm not sure.  You never know how pitchers are going to perform following surgery, and Hemstead reportedly had shoulder surgery around Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on February 11, 2008, 10:22:18 pm
STEVENSPOINT IS STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE WIAC. THEY RETURN 6 SENIOR STARTERS TO THEIR EVERYDAY LINEUP, PLUS 3 SENIOR STARTING PITCHERS. THE SENIORS ARE VETERANS OF TOURNAMENT PLAY INCLUDING COMPETING IN TWO WORLD SERIES. THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND THEY ARE DEEP IN TALENT. OSHKOSH, I BELIEVE, IS A YEAR AWAY FROM BEING VERY GOOD. THEIR PITCHING NEEDS TO JELL QUICKLY FOR THEM TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE IS UP FOR GRABS. FORGET WHITEWATER, TO MANY INTERNAL PROBLEMS. LOOK FOR STOUT TO COMPETE.
I would hope you feel that Stevens Point is best team in the WIAC considering you pitch for them......  I can see you aren't lacking any confidence. ::)
webjem's e-mail is not for a UWSP pitcher. It's for a UW-Madison employee or student.
My apologies for assuming incorrectly....... :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 11, 2008, 11:31:34 pm
Aha, there's a BW who works for UW who was born in 55. Dad, is that you? Actually, it's nothing to be ashamed of, the kid is damn good.

Was wondering if anyone would look into like I did  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 12, 2008, 06:14:37 pm
The question still remains to be answered, who are the players in the WIAC  that I should see play as I travel across the state? Anyone who knows players from their area or from a team they follow, please respond. The WIAC has always been full of talented and entertaining players and coaches and I enjoy taking in a lot of games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 12, 2008, 11:10:50 pm
My pre-season picks for players to watch this season, by position. catcher-Krause  Stout. 1B-Bennett  Platteville. 2B-Schlosser  Stevens Point. SS-Leighton  Oshkosh. 3B-Stace  Stout. OF-Fosler  Oshkosh,  Scheidler Stevens Point,  Corcoran  Whitewater. DH-Coe  Stevens Point. Pitchers-Thrun  Stevens Point,  Hemstead  Stevens Point,  Jacobson  Whitewater,  Benitz  La Crosse. Any comments or additions?? I'm always looking for good players to watch around the league.

Besides the ones you listed (Coe is probably my favorite current WIAC player to watch, especially behind the plate), I like to watch these players, assuming they're still on their respective teams.
La Crosse: Storm Gram, Dusty Otto
Oshkosh: Brad and Ryan Demmin, Mike Waupoose, Jeremy Rubens, Mickey Fadness
Platteville: Mike Kuhn, Joe Lange
Stevens Point: Garrett Nix, Jeff Zielke, Brad Archambeau
Stout: Erik Johnson, Greg Smolinski, Tanner Kottre, Matt Doornink
Superior: Billy Tafs
Whitewater: Greg Harder, Aaron Dott, Tony Wong, Sam Petrasko, Matt Schliewe
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on February 13, 2008, 08:42:55 pm
Someone want to rank the WIAC

I would guess it would be something like this or similar

Stevens Point
Oshkosh
Whitewater
Stout
La Crosse
Platteville
UWS--
its good to see UWS make some improvement last year and think they will improve even more this year with their huge influx of freshman and junior college transers
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 14, 2008, 08:57:54 pm
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Besides the ones you listed (Coe is probably my favorite current WIAC player to watch, especially behind the plate), I like to watch these players, assuming they're still on their respective teams.
La Crosse: Storm Gram, Dusty Otto
Oshkosh: Brad and Ryan Demmin, Mike Waupoose, Jeremy Rubens, Mickey Fadness
Platteville: Mike Kuhn, Joe Lange
Stevens Point: Garrett Nix, Jeff Zielke, Brad Archambeau
Stout: Erik Johnson, Greg Smolinski, Tanner Kottre, Matt Doornink
Superior: Billy Tafs
Whitewater: Greg Harder, Aaron Dott, Tony Wong, Sam Petrasko, Matt Schliewe

Thanks for your list of players. you must be a baseball freak like myself!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: webjem on February 14, 2008, 09:06:32 pm
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its good to see UWS make some improvement last year and think they will improve even more this year with their huge influx of freshman and junior college transers

Coach Morgan will do a fine job with this program.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on February 19, 2008, 09:03:23 am
Can someone fill me in on Garret Nix? The Midwest preview named him as a "Top MLB Prospect" but his stats seem unimpressive. From his high SO, HBP, and WP totals I assume he throws gas...?
thanks
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 19, 2008, 01:21:23 pm
Can someone fill me in on Garret Nix? The Midwest preview named him as a "Top MLB Prospect" but his stats seem unimpressive. From his high SO, HBP, and WP totals I assume he throws gas...?
thanks

Baseball America tabbed him as a top prospect.  MLB teams are always looking at different things other than raw stats.

TOP PROSPECTS, 2008 DRAFT
1. Blake Booher, rhp, Texas-Tyler
2. Garrett Nix, rhp, Wisconsin-Stevens Point
3. Drew Mandelblatt, of, Pomona Pitzer (Calif.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 20, 2008, 08:04:40 am
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on February 20, 2008, 10:25:42 am
This addition along with the return of Prather, Petrasko, Stine and Schliewe gives WW a pretty decent set of outfielders.   Schliewe won't win too many foot races but Prather, Petrasko and Stine have pretty decent speed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 05:51:03 pm
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on February 20, 2008, 07:46:51 pm
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.

Maybe their outfield was already full. I'll let you explore which was more important for a kid transferring from D-I with one year of eligibility left.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 20, 2008, 10:07:18 pm
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.

Maybe their outfield was already full. I'll let you explore which was more important for a kid transferring from D-I with one year of eligibility left.

Do I really need to use smiley faces? Turn it down a notch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on February 21, 2008, 08:36:57 pm
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.

Maybe their outfield was already full. I'll let you explore which was more important for a kid transferring from D-I with one year of eligibility left.

Do I really need to use smiley faces? Turn it down a notch.

Just saying...transferring does not help with regard to academic progress if you keep the same major. So the academically most responsible thing to do would have been to stay where he was, and that he's transferring with one year to in a degree program tells me that there were other reasons, which seems fairly obvious.

I guess I just picked up on an empty BS quote and called it out for what it is.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 21, 2008, 10:23:58 pm
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103

My only concern is he said he chose WW in part because of its "great journalism program." Too bad he didn't choose the "best journalism program," which is at Oshkosh.

Maybe their outfield was already full. I'll let you explore which was more important for a kid transferring from D-I with one year of eligibility left.

Do I really need to use smiley faces? Turn it down a notch.

Just saying...transferring does not help with regard to academic progress if you keep the same major. So the academically most responsible thing to do would have been to stay where he was, and that he's transferring with one year to in a degree program tells me that there were other reasons, which seems fairly obvious.

I guess I just picked up on an empty BS quote and called it out for what it is.

What's BS and empty is your capability to see a intrastate jab when you see one. Why be difficult? Because you can? Lame.

Nowhere was I even remotely writing about what you are now writing. You can go on having an argument by yourself, debate captain.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 22, 2008, 09:32:42 am
The question still remains to be answered, who are the players in the WIAC  that I should see play as I travel across the state? Anyone who knows players from their area or from a team they follow, please respond. The WIAC has always been full of talented and entertaining players and coaches and I enjoy taking in a lot of games.

Speaking of questions that remain to be answered, just what internal problems at WW were you referring to, and did the pitcher we have been talking about have surgery, and if so, how is he doing? (100% I hope)
Title: Best way to follow the WIAC via Radio or TV or Internet?
Post by: for2n8john on February 26, 2008, 09:46:17 am
Just found this DB and am glad to see like minded people interested in D3 Baseball.  I wondering what access there is to broadcasts of Baseball games in the WIAC via radio, internet or TV.  I just got DishTV because they carry FSN- North.  I understand FSN - Wisc will carry some games but don't see that as a channel option.  Any one got any resources or way of getting FSN- Wisc using on-demand services? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on February 28, 2008, 09:48:43 am
Whitewater roster is out:

http://www.uwwsports.com/roster.asp?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on February 28, 2008, 01:01:09 pm
Point's Roster

http://athletics.uwsp.edu/roster.asp?path=baseball

UWP's Roster

http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2008/roster.html

LaCrosse's Roster

http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/roster/

Stout's Roster

http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/bbroster.htm

Superior's Roster

http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/roster.asp



Oshkosh has yet to put up a roster, notorious for waiting until last second.




Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on February 28, 2008, 01:20:42 pm
Anyone notice any suprise additions to WIAC rosters this year?

Any impact freshman or transfers on rosters?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on February 28, 2008, 03:18:51 pm
Anyone notice any suprise additions to WIAC rosters this year?

Any impact freshman or transfers on rosters?

Point: Soph OF Sam Spurney, a transfer from Oshkosh, could play a key role this season. Also liked frosh OF Jared Surman when he played in high school.

Platteville: Don't know if he'll get much time this year, but frosh IF Brett Benesh is a nice addition.

Oshkosh (EDIT): Frosh OF Blake Berger should hit a ton. That guy can rake.
I see frosh P Evan Matson getting meaningful innings.
Frosh 2B Nolan Fadness should win the starting job (with Kyle Kannenberg moving to 3B). In time, he could be better than his brother, Mickey.
There are a few other frosh pitchers who will have to get innings, but I can't pick out the best among the bunch.

Whitewater (EDIT): MATC junior transfer Steve Hedgepath should get some innings.
Junior P/OF Joe Munn was drafted in the 30th round out of HS, so I'd expect him to be a contributor.
Frosh P Jason Hooper is large and throws hard, but I don't know where he is in the pecking order. My guess is he's a year away from contributing.
Frosh 1B Tom Zimmerman is probably a year away as well, although he was a monster in high school, hitting nearly .500 with decent power potential.
Ditto for frosh P Bryant Ganser, who was a stud in HS with a 10-1 record in 11 starts, 1.10 ERA, 110 Ks in 72 IP and 34 hits allowed.

I know nothing of the mostly Minnesota and western Wisconsin recruits who are at Stout, Superior and La Crosse. Anyone have an opinion on those guys?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on February 28, 2008, 10:30:17 pm
Some JUCO guys to watch at UWS

Joey Hostrawser - 3B/P - Iowa Central
Tim Bouvine - P -Wisconsin Milwaukee/Mesabi Range CC
Justin Saufley P/IF - Minnesota West CC
Scott Hoium - IF - Mesabi Range CC
Nate Hedley - 3B/P - Madison Area TC/Mesabi Range
Nick Hedley - 1B - Madison Area TC/Mesabi Range
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 01, 2008, 07:18:23 pm
Some JUCO guys to watch at UWS

Joey Hostrawser - 3B/P - Iowa Central
Tim Bouvine - P -Wisconsin Milwaukee/Mesabi Range CC
Justin Saufley P/IF - Minnesota West CC
Scott Hoium - IF - Mesabi Range CC
Nate Hedley - 3B/P - Madison Area TC/Mesabi Range
Nick Hedley - 1B - Madison Area TC/Mesabi Range


These will be some great additions for UWS.
Bouvine and Hedley brothers will be great additions and wouldnt be surprised if they go directly into the starting line up/pitching rotation.

Tim Bouvine could be a #1 starter considering he started his career at a D1 school. Dont really know what happened to him for a couple years because he is older.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 01, 2008, 07:50:24 pm
Bouvine and Saufley will be the 1 and 2 starters, order yet to be determined.
Hostrawser would be in the group as well, but is rehabbing from injury and should start the year in the pen.
3B is probably the deepest position on the roster and there will be a lot of competition with others moving around to get their bats in the lineup as well.

Bouvine had labrum/rotator cuff surgery so that is the reason he is older.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 01, 2008, 08:21:29 pm
Bouvine and Saufley will be the 1 and 2 starters, order yet to be determined.
Hostrawser would be in the group as well, but is rehabbing from injury and should start the year in the pen.
3B is probably the deepest position on the roster and there will be a lot of competition with others moving around to get their bats in the lineup as well.

Bouvine had labrum/rotator cuff surgery so that is the reason he is older.

Dont know Saufley, but Bouvine was pretty good in high school and threw with pretty good velocity from the side if i remember correctly. Be interesting to see if his surgery affected that.

I think Eddy Morgan is doing a great job and has that program going the right direction
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 01, 2008, 08:23:30 pm
Haha well its weird for me talking in the third person so I might as well let the cat out of the bag that im Tim....where you from MIAC?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 01, 2008, 09:10:32 pm
Well I will keep the cat in the bag, but I am from the Duluth area so I know the area players well and know your high school team had a great rotation with you, Ritsche and Erickson. I was involved with a d3 program so I know the wiac, umac, and miac pretty well.

I hope you guys have a good year and can make your way up the wiac standings some
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 02, 2008, 12:40:49 am
Whitewater kicked off the season last night, sweeping Edgewood College 4-3 (8 inn.) and 10-4 at the Metrodome.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 02, 2008, 03:07:19 pm
Whitewater kicked off the season last night, sweeping Edgewood College 4-3 (8 inn.) and 10-4 at the Metrodome.

Not to read too much into it, but Dott started the first game for WW. Jake got the ball in game two, and he didn't last long.

Dominick and Munn had great lines in relief. Interested to hear the story of how Munn wound up at WW via California. That's a rare D-III trek.

Anyone know whether Schliewe is hurt or is now a reserve player? I thought Billy Johnson would play 2B and Schliewe would play C again.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2008, 10:01:19 pm
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103
Guess not, as he is not even listed on Whitewater's 2008 roster.......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 02, 2008, 10:08:36 pm
Interested to hear the story of how Munn wound up at WW via California. That's a rare D-III trek.
Maybe it was a package deal along with QB Danny Jones..... ;D

What was meant to be a joke, may actually have some truth to it.....  I just noticed they are both from Pleasanton, CA (although they attended different high schools.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 03, 2008, 01:00:24 am
You have much higher expectations for the Whitewater pitching staff than I do......

I just can't get too high on some of these guys who finished last season with ERA's between 5.50-7.00 or higher.  The majority have a BA against around .300 or higher.

Dott-5.65 ERA .294 BAA
Johnson-6.19, .329
Dominick-5.32, .295
Severson-6.94, .244 (11 BB, 6 K)
Wong-7.18. .346
Riek-6.33, .341
G. Donovan-7.20, .300
Harves-7.36, .349

Comparing numbers to the other staffs around the WIAC, these numbers aren't any better than anyone else's.  The only difference, is that they return more arms, which doesn't really help unless they are quality, which I think the numbers show otherwise.

Guess we'll have to look elsewhere for Wong (not sure where) and Severson (St. Thomas), although I'm fairly certain I'm right about Dott.

Not the worst tradeoff for the Warhawks when you turn Wong and Severson into Munn (former draft pick), Hedgepath (decent arm from MATC) and Hooper and Ganser (two awesome HS Ps).

EDIT: Justin Dahmen transferred from Whitewater to Edgewood, who opened the season against each other. Dahmen didn't even get plunked. Too bad Tomasiewicz wasn't available out of the pen in a blowout ;). Then again Dahmen isn't Josh Shere.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 03, 2008, 09:21:08 am
Some speed in the WW outfield?

http://wisconsinpreps.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=755103
Guess not, as he is not even listed on Whitewater's 2008 roster.......

Is he enrolled?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on March 03, 2008, 10:46:00 am
UWO's Roster finally posted;

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Roster.html

Any suprises here? New studs to the roster?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 03, 2008, 06:05:55 pm
UWO's Roster finally posted;

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Roster.html

Any suprises here? New studs to the roster?

Go back a page or two for my thoughts.
Title: Re: Best way to follow the WIAC via Radio or TV or Internet?
Post by: Just Bill on March 03, 2008, 08:20:33 pm
The On-Demand service is only available through Charter, so you're out of luck.

FSN-Wisconsin and FSN-Minnesota are sub-channels of FSN-North (Ch. 438 on Dish Network which is what I have. I don't know what it is on Direct TV).  Most of the time they have the same programming.  When FSN-Wisconsin shows something different than FSN-Minnesota, those games will usually appear on the "Sports Alternate" channels 445-450.  But sometimes, they won't be there and you'll be stuck with FSN-Minnesota programming.

If your only goal was maximum WIAC sports, then you should have gone with Charter Expanded Basic so you got FSN-North (on Charter you get nothing but FSN-Wisconsin programming) plus the On Demand games.

Of course, then you wouldn't get Big Ten Network or NFL Network, but that's a WHOLE 'nother debate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 04, 2008, 01:43:28 am
Anyone notice any suprise additions to WIAC rosters this year?

Any impact freshman or transfers on rosters?

Point: Soph OF Sam Spurney, a transfer from Oshkosh, could play a key role this season. Also liked frosh OF Jared Surman when he played in high school.

Platteville: Don't know if he'll get much time this year, but frosh IF Brett Benesh is a nice addition.

Oshkosh (EDIT): Frosh OF Blake Berger should hit a ton. That guy can rake.
I see frosh P Evan Matson getting meaningful innings.
Frosh 2B Nolan Fadness should win the starting job (with Kyle Kannenberg moving to 3B). In time, he could be better than his brother, Mickey.
There are a few other frosh pitchers who will have to get innings, but I can't pick out the best among the bunch.

Whitewater (EDIT): MATC junior transfer Steve Hedgepath should get some innings.
Junior P/OF Joe Munn was drafted in the 30th round out of HS, so I'd expect him to be a contributor.
Frosh P Jason Hooper is large and throws hard, but I don't know where he is in the pecking order. My guess is he's a year away from contributing.
Frosh 1B Tom Zimmerman is probably a year away as well, although he was a monster in high school, hitting nearly .500 with decent power potential.
Ditto for frosh P Bryant Ganser, who was a stud in HS with a 10-1 record in 11 starts, 1.10 ERA, 110 Ks in 72 IP and 34 hits allowed.

I know nothing of the mostly Minnesota and western Wisconsin recruits who are at Stout, Superior and La Crosse. Anyone have an opinion on those guys?

I missed Parkside transfer and Point 1B Brad Frank. Gotta include the cleanup hitter for a top-10 team, I guess  :).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 05, 2008, 04:55:01 pm
UWS opened up their season today with a sweep of Morningside College 4-2 and 1-0

Tim Bouvine pitched game 1 - CG (7 ip) 4 h 6 k 1 bb 2 r 0 er
Justin Saufley pitched game 2 - CG (7 ip) 2 h 6 k 2 bb 0 r

Dont have the batting stats in front of me but Sean Cummings and Paul Schlangen both had triples and Joey Hostrawser had a 2 run double.  Ryan Leer had a few very nice plays in centerfield.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 05, 2008, 06:25:46 pm
UWS opened up their season today with a sweep of Morningside College 4-2 and 1-0

Tim Bouvine pitched game 1 - CG (7 ip) 4 h 6 k 1 bb 2 r 0 er
Justin Saufley pitched game 2 - CG (7 ip) 2 h 6 k 2 bb 0 r

Dont have the batting stats in front of me but Sean Cummings and Paul Schlangen both had triples and Joey Hostrawser had a 2 run double.  Ryan Leer had a few very nice plays in centerfield.

Nice wins for UWS, nice for them to start off 2-0. Morningside is a decent NAIA team too!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on March 05, 2008, 07:16:55 pm
"If your only goal was maximum WIAC sports, then you should have gone with Charter Expanded Basic so you got FSN-North (on Charter you get nothing but FSN-Wisconsin programming) plus the On Demand games."


Thanks JustBill.  I didn't have Charter as an option since I'm in Illinois.  I have Dish now and am hoping that I'll be able to see a couple of games this way.  I heard that FSN_Wis is going to tape a few games put it directly into the "on-demand" menu without airing them.  Unfortunately, when FSN-Central shows an WIAC game its 1:00am-3am time slot during the week.


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 06, 2008, 09:29:18 am
"If your only goal was maximum WIAC sports, then you should have gone with Charter Expanded Basic so you got FSN-North (on Charter you get nothing but FSN-Wisconsin programming) plus the On Demand games."


Thanks JustBill.  I didn't have Charter as an option since I'm in Illinois.  I have Dish now and am hoping that I'll be able to see a couple of games this way.  I heard that FSN_Wis is going to tape a few games put it directly into the "on-demand" menu without airing them.  Unfortunately, when FSN-Central shows an WIAC game its 1:00am-3am time slot during the week.

Upgrade to the DVR and it's no problem.  It's totally worth it.  I don't know how I survived before without.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 08, 2008, 05:52:32 pm
Oshkosh splits with Luther – W 7-5, L 5-9. UWO pitchers (Luther had 20 combined hits) and the defense (four errors, seven unearned runs in the two games) struggled. Thought it must be said that Luther committed five errors, which led to six unearned runs scored by Oshkosh.

Pretty ugly boxscores. But I wasn't there, so I can't say for sure how ugly it was. Rubens gave up a lot of hits and didn't make it out of the fourth inning in game two. Not a good sign for UWO.

EDIT: The loss will not count against UWO (nor the Luther win) because the second game ended due to a time limit and the teams didn't complete six full innings.

UWO is 3-0 on the season. Luther is 0-1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 10, 2008, 11:02:41 am
The WARHAWKS  took on Augsburg College in the MetroDome Friday night and split the doublehitter. 

Adam Dominick pitched five complete innings surrendering a single hit and Kale Olson and Aaron Dott finished the game allowing 3 hits and striking out 5.  Tom Corcoran went 3x4 with a double, triple, 2 RBI's and 2 RS in the 8-0 win.

Randy Johnson took the loss in game two despite throwing five complete with 6 strikeouts and allowing only 4 hits.   Augusburg pushed a run across in the fourth and padded the lead with five runs in the sixth on 2 walks, 3 errors and a wild pitch.  The final was 6-2.

WW is 3-1 and idle until 3/19. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 10, 2008, 01:04:18 pm
Joey Hostrawser of UWS threw his first bullpen to live hitters Sunday night and was 88-89 and even hitting 91.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 10, 2008, 06:39:26 pm
Joey Hostrawser of UWS threw his first bullpen to live hitters Sunday night and was 88-89 and even hitting 91.

Hopefully he threw strikes and didnt walk anyone. Thats a really good velocity so hopefully he has the control to go with it and some decent off speed stuff or it wont make that big of difference with the better wiac teams
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 10, 2008, 06:52:18 pm
For those who arent aware of Joey...he was all but set to go the U of M until he had UCL problems, after lots of hard work and rehab hes getting towards 100 percent.

From what I say his command was just fine.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on March 17, 2008, 12:47:01 pm
Reporting scores from Phoenix RussMatt tourney:
UW-Stout & LaX are down here, plus a lot of MIAC teams.

Haven't found the boxscore spot on the tourney webpage yet.

UW-Stout beatup Macalester 13-2.  Doornik pitched 6 solid innings.  I think it was 8-1 when he came out.  Everyone from Stout hit.  Mac started a freshman, Yohd(?).   He battled gamely for 4 innings before exiting.

Doubleheader against Augsburg today.  Probably Hansen and vilstrep starting. 
LaX plays  DH against st. Johns today. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 17, 2008, 05:43:18 pm
UWS is now 5-1

Swept a doubleheader from Bethany Lutheran Sunday 12-4 and 3-2
Bouvine and Saufley both getting wins to go to 2-0 each

Split a DH with Grinnell College today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 17, 2008, 08:22:57 pm
Haven't found the boxscore spot on the tourney webpage yet.

And you won't either.  These spring break tournaments don't keep boxscores.  You'll have to go school-by-school to find them, and some may not get up until the team returns.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 18, 2008, 07:49:17 pm
Anyone know when/if Point SP Brandon Hemstead will return? Hard to fill out a pitching staff without an all-conference guy. A healthy Hemstead could get Point back on top. I'm actually surprised with how competitive SP's been against some good teams without its horse. Maybe Point will be better than I thought afterall.

But Point really needs to shore up that D. I don't know what the field condidtions are like where they are playing, but 17 errors in seven games obviously isn't getting it done. SP booted nine balls in the DH with Wooster, which didn't exactly pick it either, especially the 3B. SP has a ridiculous .931 FLD%, although opponents have a rather poor .938% themselves.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 18, 2008, 08:26:15 pm
Anyone know when/if Point SP Brandon Hemstead will return? Hard to fill out a pitching staff without an all-conference guy. A healthy Hemstead could get Point back on top. I'm actually surprised with how competitive SP's been against some good teams without its horse. Maybe Point will be better than I thought afterall.

But Point really needs to shore up that D. I don't know what the field condidtions are like where they are playing, but 17 errors in seven games obviously isn't getting it done. SP booted nine balls in the DH with Wooster, which didn't exactly pick it either, especially the 3B. SP has a ridiculous .931 FLD%, although opponents have a rather poor .938% themselves.

Well typically teams are going to have a lot of errors in their first couple games outside because they only get one practice before those games. They have had 15 errors in the 5 outside games. But on the other side 6 errors in a game is no excuse. How do pitchers have that poor of a fielding percentage, so much for pitchers being "athletes"

Stevens Point will be very competitive, they always are with Pat Bloom as coach plus they play a very difficult schedule so a lot of their SP get work against solid teams. But I think they need to go 3-1 in their last 4 games in florida with a split against Otterbein. They dont want to come back from florida with a losing record
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 19, 2008, 06:10:02 pm
The SIDs have spoken. They say hardly anything will change. The baseball predictions have not been hard to do for years, but I hope Superior makes the league more interesting this year.

http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/2008prev.html (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/2008prev.html)

The Pointer bats have been speaking lately against some good teams, including roughing up one of the best pitchers in the nation in a loss to Wooster. I think Surman and Spurney will be the keys to keeping the offense rolling.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2008, 09:24:22 am
WARHAWKS pick up a 3-2 win over Worcester College in 10 innings.  The winning run came when Tom Corcoran doubled and drove in Jordan Stine who had gotten on base as a hit batter and advanced to scoring position on a wild pitch.  Adam Dominick threw six solid innings before being relieved by Kale Olson who picked up the win.  Billy Johnson was credited with a save.   WW improves to 4-1 and faces Jamestown Community College today.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 20, 2008, 09:33:43 am
BW,

Is that a Varsity Reserve game against JCC?  You can't play a 2-year school and have it count on your record.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 20, 2008, 10:40:33 am
The schedule reads Jamestown CC (varsity reserve).  I didn't know if that means they're sending their reserves to play us, reserves to play reserves or what exactly.  We also play them again on 3/25 and the schedule reads the same. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on March 20, 2008, 12:41:40 pm
I would guess that UWW is playing their reserves against JCC.  NCAA teams can't count games against Community Colleges on their records, but a lot of them play reserve games in Florida to get more guys playing time.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on March 21, 2008, 10:01:21 am
Yes, I beleive the juco games listed for UWW are played using UWW's reserves. 

Billy Johnson was given credit for the save vs. Worchester, was a misprint save should go to his brother, Randy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on March 22, 2008, 03:31:10 am
Whitewater (6-1) takes 2 from Bethel (3-5) in Port Charlotte, FL. 5-0 and 2-1 (http://www.uwwsports.com/news/baseball/2008/3/21/baseball_03212008_Bethel.asp).  The Warhawks next game will be a varsity reserve match Saturday, March 22, against Bethel in Port Charlotte, FL.  The Warhawks next varsity game will be Monday, March 24, against St. Olaf at Northport HS in Northport, FL.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 22, 2008, 11:42:49 pm
Possible that Hemstead will not pitch this year. Nothing set in stone as of yet.
Point could have easily finished their trip 8-1 instead of 5-4. Errors WILL kill you every time. Was very painful to watch, but the weather was great. Point has 11 new players on their roster this year, mostly freshman. This is the first time in a while where you get a chance to see what they can do. Saw some good things as well as some bad. I believe most of the errors were made by veteran players though.  Hard to say how starting rotation will shake out. And Hemstead pitched injured towards the end of last year. Point will be tough again this year. Question is will ANYONE play next week-end because of all the snow?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 23, 2008, 09:42:52 pm
UWS ended their spring trip with a 9-0 victory of SUNY-New Paltz on Saturday.

TJ Wink pitched 6 shutout innings, and has an era of 0.00 through 12 innings
Joey Hostrawser made his first appearance on the hill pitching the final two innings. 2 IP 4 K 0 H 0 BB, hitting 91, sitting in the high 80's.
Sean Cummings was 4-5 with 2 triples and a double to lead the way offensively.

UWS team era after 10 games (7-3) is roughly 1.75, they play next Thursday against St. Johns.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 23, 2008, 11:13:47 pm
UWS ended their spring trip with a 9-0 victory of SUNY-New Paltz on Saturday.

TJ Wink pitched 6 shutout innings, and has an era of 0.00 through 12 innings
Joey Hostrawser made his first appearance on the hill pitching the final two innings. 2 IP 4 K 0 H 0 BB, hitting 91, sitting in the high 80's.
Sean Cummings was 4-5 with 2 triples and a double to lead the way offensively.

UWS team era after 10 games (7-3) is roughly 1.75, they play next Thursday against St. Johns.

Good to see UWS continuing to play well, hopefully their offense can keep up with their pitching. 1.75 is pretty nice for 10 games played, too bad it wont last once they get into the WIAC and the short wisconsin fields. But their pitching will keep them in a lot of games, better watch out Platteville, Stout, LaCrosse!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 24, 2008, 01:59:40 am
Possible that Hemstead will not pitch this year. Nothing set in stone as of yet.

Wow. That would obviously be a huge loss. Please keep us updated, and welcome to the boards.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 24, 2008, 05:02:49 pm
The WARHAWKS split a double hitter with St Olaf today losing the first game on a three hit shutout 5-0.  Adam Dominick took the loss.  In game two the WARHAWKS rallied from behind with four hits and three runs in their last at bat capped off by a Jordan Stine pinch hit single to drive in the winning run.  Greg Donovan was credited with the win in relief.  Jeff Donovan hit a three run home run in the contest.

With the split the WARHAWKS record is now 7-2.  St Olaf finishes the day at 7-3. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2008, 01:07:21 pm
Anyone happen to know the results of the DH between UWO and St. Thomas this morning?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 25, 2008, 01:51:26 pm
Anyone happen to know the results of the DH between UWO and St. Thomas this morning?
Found it on the MIAC site.....

Split, with UWO winning 7-3 and St. Thomas winning 5-0.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 25, 2008, 03:56:51 pm
Anyone know if Whitewater's Adam Dominick is physically OK? He faced four St. Olaf batters, giving up three hits, in 1/3 of an inning in a 5-0 loss.

It would be a pretty big game for Vodenlich to make a "statement" by pulling one of his best starters that early, so it made me wonder if he's injured in some way.

Looks like Olaf's Todd Mathison worked over the 'Hawks. And WW needed a crooked number in the bottom of the 7th of Game 2 to earn a split, 8-7.

Only 10 of the 20 combined runs were earned. Got to love the early games.

Looks like Olaf and Whitewater threw their bests, although Dott didn't start for WW. The early going suggests yet another year of parity among the best teams. Lots of splits and no separation.

Should be an interesting year, with conference seasons being even more important due to the spring splits.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Warhawk19 on March 27, 2008, 11:38:07 am
Anyone know if Whitewater's Adam Dominick is physically OK? He faced four St. Olaf batters, giving up three hits, in 1/3 of an inning in a 5-0 loss.

Dominick twisted his ankle pretty bad on a comebacker to the mound.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 27, 2008, 03:45:55 pm
Anyone know if Whitewater's Adam Dominick is physically OK? He faced four St. Olaf batters, giving up three hits, in 1/3 of an inning in a 5-0 loss.

Dominick twisted his ankle pretty bad on a comebacker to the mound.
Thanks ... +1. Welcome aboard.

Bad enough to keep him out for an extended period? Assuming we get some games in, that is.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 27, 2008, 03:50:01 pm
UW-Platteville scored 2 runs in the third and 7 runs in the fourth and beat D1 Northern Iowa 9-4
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 27, 2008, 05:34:27 pm
UWS beat St. John's today at the Dome, 3-0, 3-1....now move to 9-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 27, 2008, 05:57:15 pm
Point is playing in La Crosse on Saturday due to poor field conditions at home. Sunday's games are scheduled for Apr. 2 in Point. Point will be home team in La Crosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 27, 2008, 07:09:44 pm
UWS beat St. John's today at the Dome, 3-0, 3-1....now move to 9-3.

Coach Morgan has UWS on the move this year. Already equal to last years win total of 9...Pretty good wins for them even though St. Johns is 6-7 but many had them at the top of the MIAC. Plus they held them to only 1 run and not pitching their top 2 pitchers even though Joey Hostrawser is their #3 right now im guessing he could be even higher.

The rest of the WIAC better not underestimate UWS they have 3 solid SP it seems like
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 27, 2008, 07:17:30 pm
UWS beat St. John's today at the Dome, 3-0, 3-1....now move to 9-3.

Coach Morgan has UWS on the move this year. Already equal to last years win total of 9...Pretty good wins for them even though St. Johns is 6-7 but many had them at the top of the MIAC. Plus they held them to only 1 run and not pitching their top 2 pitchers even though Joey Hostrawser is their #3 right now im guessing he could be even higher.

The rest of the WIAC better not underestimate UWS they have 3 solid SP it seems like

I dont think anyone on the team would deny that Joey has the best stuff on the team, he was 86-88 the last couple innings and hit 90 on a day where he was stiff by his own accounts. Its just a matter of him staying healthy and stretching out and today was a good step towards that.

When talking about the starting pitchers for UWS dont forget TJ Wink who is 2-0 with a 0.00 era so far....hes made great strides from last year and has even hit 88 on the gun. Not bad for a toothpick lefthander haha.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 28, 2008, 01:08:10 pm
We should have A LOT better idea about how much Superior has improved after this weekend.  Both DH's are on as planned at Tiedemann Field Saturday and Sunday.  UWO players spent some time this week getting snow off the field, and had their first outdoor practice yesterday.

The Titans have beaten the Yellow Jackets at least 28 straight times, so if they could manage to win at least one game in the four game series, I think it would be pretty safe to say Superiors Baseball program is improving.

I guess we'll see where things stand in a couple of days....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 29, 2008, 07:30:59 pm
Oshkosh opens WIAC play with a DH sweep of Superior, winning the opener 3-2, and the nightcap 5-1.  It appears from looking at the boxscore that Superior actually outplayed Oshkosh in the first game, outhitting the Titans 7-4, but they left 11 runners on base.

Platteville also opens with a sweep of Stout, winning the opener 10-0 (7 innings) and 14-13.  The Pioneers scored three runs in the bottom of the 9th inning for the Game #2 win.  Interestingly, Ross Bennett goes 0x7 on the day, but Platteville is still able to get a pair of victories.

La Crosse and Point split their DH, with La Crosse winning the opener 9-6, and the Pointers taking the nightcap 8-3.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 29, 2008, 10:24:24 pm
Oshkosh opens WIAC play with a DH sweep of Superior, winning the opener 3-2, and the nightcap 5-1.  It appears from looking at the boxscore that Superior actually outplayed Oshkosh in the first game, outhitting the Titans 7-4, but they left 11 runners on base.

Platteville also opens with a sweep of Stout, winning the opener 10-0 (7 innings) and 14-13.  The Pioneers scored three runs in the bottom of the 9th inning for the Game #2 win.  Interestingly, Ross Bennett goes 0x7 on the day, but Platteville is still able to get a pair of victories.

La Crosse and Point split their DH, with La Crosse winning the opener 9-6, and the Pointers taking the nightcap 8-3.

UWS/UWO game did not surprise me and does look like UWS should of won the first game. We will see how things go tomorrow after UWO pitching top 2 today, UWS still with their #1 looks like so chance to get one tomorrow. I think these 2 games should be an eye opener if people dont think UWS is different this year. Last year would of not even been close. Their hitting still needs to pick it up though

Kind of surprised by Platevilles sweep of Stout

Kind of surprised that  STP only split

Who knows maybe WIAC is more balanced then most people thought i.e. top 3 and the rest of the pack. Lot of weekend and season left though
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 29, 2008, 10:55:53 pm
Oshkosh opens WIAC play with a DH sweep of Superior, winning the opener 3-2, and the nightcap 5-1.  It appears from looking at the boxscore that Superior actually outplayed Oshkosh in the first game, outhitting the Titans 7-4, but they left 11 runners on base.

Platteville also opens with a sweep of Stout, winning the opener 10-0 (7 innings) and 14-13.  The Pioneers scored three runs in the bottom of the 9th inning for the Game #2 win.  Interestingly, Ross Bennett goes 0x7 on the day, but Platteville is still able to get a pair of victories.

La Crosse and Point split their DH, with La Crosse winning the opener 9-6, and the Pointers taking the nightcap 8-3.
Superior absolutely outplayed Oshkosh for the most part. Lack of execution during key moments hurt Superior. Sup should have been off the field with no runs in the first, but the 2B couldn't handle a routine DP throw from the 3B with no outs and a runner on first.

UWO's bats were silent all day. I wish I could say Sup's Game 1 pitcher was great, but Tim Bouvine wasn't. Oshkosh couldn't hit a batting-practice fastball nor rinky-dink breaking stuff. Only Brad Demmin had anything close to a nice day at the plate. So many UWO at-bats given away, in both games.

In Game 1, Oshkosh just found a way to score a few off of a mistake and then held on. UWO's Perlewitz was OK. He was Jeckl and Hyde – lights out one batter, then looked like he didn't know where the plate was next. Rubens struggled with his command, too.

I did like Sup's Game 2 SP, T.J. Wink. Good fastball and secondary pitches. Smooth and sneaky-fast lefty who comes at you with knees, elbows and a jersey. Does that kid eat? Lol. Sup's other Game 2 pitchers had OK fastballs but were not close to overwhelming anyone.

So far I'd say Sup's pitching is improved (from nothing to slightly above average). If I saw its best today, Sup still has a ways to go. After the first inning, UWO SP Ryan Demmin was dominant. He gave up a double and a few singles up the box (the other 2B was on a rather routine flyball that was misjudged). That was it. I would call Demmin dominant today, and his body language told the story. He wasn't going to lose that game, and he challenged (and won) just about every batter.

Ryan only needed those few sac flies today, but the offense needs to step it up. Bigtime. It's about as bad as you can hit while still winning both games.

One thing that struck me was how many dudes Sup now packs into its dugout. I counted about 35, and they had some pep for the first time I can recall. When they got up in Game 1, those guys had a bit of Whitewater in 'em. They can get a little chirpy. That's good to hear coming out of that dugout. And good to see the number of players.

My favorite moment of the day was when I first noticed what was written on Sup's jackets. You guessed it, "Jackets." Pretty sweet, if you ask me.

Oh, and congrats to Tom Lechnir for winning game Nos. 600 and 601.

UWO could use one 7-inning game tomorrow. The sticks could use the confidence boost, even if it comes against Sup, just like the good old days.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 12:17:22 am
Oshkosh opens WIAC play with a DH sweep of Superior, winning the opener 3-2, and the nightcap 5-1.  It appears from looking at the boxscore that Superior actually outplayed Oshkosh in the first game, outhitting the Titans 7-4, but they left 11 runners on base.

Platteville also opens with a sweep of Stout, winning the opener 10-0 (7 innings) and 14-13.  The Pioneers scored three runs in the bottom of the 9th inning for the Game #2 win.  Interestingly, Ross Bennett goes 0x7 on the day, but Platteville is still able to get a pair of victories.

La Crosse and Point split their DH, with La Crosse winning the opener 9-6, and the Pointers taking the nightcap 8-3.
Superior absolutely outplayed Oshkosh for the most part. Lack of execution during key moments hurt Superior. Sup should have been off the field with no runs in the first, but the 2B couldn't handle a routine DP throw from the 3B with no outs and a runner on first.

UWO's bats were silent all day. I wish I could say Sup's Game 1 pitcher was great, but Tim Bouvine wasn't. Oshkosh couldn't hit a batting-practice fastball nor rinky-dink breaking stuff. Only Brad Demmin had anything close to a nice day at the plate. So many UWO at-bats given away, in both games.

In Game 1, Oshkosh just found a way to score a few off of a mistake and then held on. UWO's Perlewitz was OK. He was Jeckl and Hyde – lights out one batter, then looked like he didn't know where the plate was next. Rubens struggled with his command, too.

I did like Sup's Game 2 SP, T.J. Wink. Good fastball and secondary pitches. Smooth and sneaky-fast lefty who comes at you with knees, elbows and a jersey. Does that kid eat? Lol. Sup's other Game 2 pitchers had OK fastballs but were not close to overwhelming anyone.

So far I'd say Sup's pitching is improved (from nothing to slightly above average). If I saw its best today, Sup still has a ways to go. After the first inning, UWO SP Ryan Demmin was dominant. He gave up a double and a few singles up the box (the other 2B was on a rather routine flyball that was misjudged). That was it. I would call Demmin dominant today, and his body language told the story. He wasn't going to lose that game, and he challenged (and won) just about every batter.

Ryan only needed those few sac flies today, but the offense needs to step it up. Bigtime. It's about as bad as you can hit while still winning both games.

One thing that struck me was how many dudes Sup now packs into its dugout. I counted about 35, and they had some pep for the first time I can recall. When they got up in Game 1, those guys had a bit of Whitewater in 'em. They can get a little chirpy. That's good to hear coming out of that dugout. And good to see the number of players.

My favorite moment of the day was when I first noticed what was written on Sup's jackets. You guessed it, "Jackets." Pretty sweet, if you ask me.

Oh, and congrats to Tom Lechnir for winning game Nos. 600 and 601.

UWO could use one 7-inning game tomorrow. The sticks could use the confidence boost, even if it comes against Sup, just like the good old days.

Nice little recap. Im sure UWO wasnt happy about having to bring Rubens in for a couple innings but happy to at least get the sweep.

Bouvine might not of looked like he had the best stuff but only gave up 4 hits and only 1 walk in 8 innings. Thats gotta count for something. I think Justin Saufley is their number 1 right now so expect him to go tomorrow. Joey Hostrawser is probably their number 2 but just pitched against St. Johns.  Bouvine and Wink are probably 3 and 4. Its tough to say right now who are their top guys but probably they way i would put them.



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 30, 2008, 12:18:59 am
i guess ill bite the bullet and take offense osh. I realize everyone is entitled to their own opinions and i dont light up the gun like i use to but you obviously dont understand the effect of movement, location and knowing how to "pitch" can affect hitters. Its easy to say that because i dont throw gas its a bp fb but ill keep the ball down, sink and cut it and get outs. I was expecting better bats from uwo honestly. Aside from demmin none impressed me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 30, 2008, 03:09:03 am
i guess ill bite the bullet and take offense osh. I realize everyone is entitled to their own opinions and i dont light up the gun like i use to but you obviously dont understand the effect of movement, location and knowing how to "pitch" can affect hitters. Its easy to say that because i dont throw gas its a bp fb but ill keep the ball down, sink and cut it and get outs. I was expecting better bats from uwo honestly. Aside from demmin none impressed me.
It was nothing personal at all. I do understand the effects of movement. Greg Maddux gets along, and I used to get along, on being smarter than the other guys and messing with grips and pressures while pounding the zone. I actually appreciate your style more than I do radar-gun guys. Maddux is my favorite player and that's the way I got outs, so I get it.

It's clear you know how to pitch. I should have written that, so let it now be written: Tim Bouvine is a very good pitcher. You went through a decent lineup three or four times without creating your own trouble.

It's just that I kept reading about Superior guys throwing hard. It's on me that I lumped you in with the others. I never read about a crafty righty, so I assumed there wasn't one.

I enjoyed watching you miss bats. I just didn't know you existed, if that makes sense. I really thought all of the Sup posters were saying 74 was bringing it. And that isn't a stretch, considering how bad Superior has been the last decade. Throwing 74 for strikes would probably get you the cover of the media guide in prior seasons.

Virtual high-5 or are we enemies?

There was no reason to be impressed by UWO's offense. Besides B. Demmin, Wetenkamp and Hiroskey did their jobs with a few fly balls. That's all the highlights I remember. Oh, and the bunting was OK, too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 30, 2008, 10:08:32 am
yeah no hard feelings. You just seemed to be saying that the titans shouldve hit the crap out of me haha. And to save a little face i did hit 80 and was mostly in the high 70s so 74 might be a little low, i hit 87 before labrum surgery but those days are over. Either way good games yesterday and hopefully it wont be frigid today. Saufley is throwing one game not sure about the other, see ya at the park.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on March 30, 2008, 12:30:59 pm
WARHAWKS take two from DII St. Cloud State,  4-2, 11-3 and improve to 9-2 on the season.   Niether school has made a box score available at this time.   Conference play begins next weekend with Oshkosh in town for a pair of doublehitters.  I haven't seen the field so I'm not sure of it's condition however rain/snow is forecast for this week and that isn't going to help matters any.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 07:43:21 pm
UWO and UWS split doubleheader UWO wins first game 7-0 then lost 3-1.

UWO starter pulled after 3 hitters in game two. Jeremy Rubens came in relief to pitch 9 innings of relief. Really surprising to have him pitch 11 1/3 innings over 2 days. Just another sign that their pitching beyond 3 guys is not strong.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 07:56:35 pm
I think Justin Saufley is their number 1 right now so expect him to go tomorrow. Joey Hostrawser is probably their number 2 but just pitched against St. Johns.  Bouvine and Wink are probably 3 and 4. Its tough to say right now who are their top guys but probably they way i would put them.
So according to your projections, UWO pounds Superior's #1 (Saufley) for seven runs and eleven hits in a little over three innings, but gets nothing off of Superior's #? (Nate Hedley) mustering only three hits in 9 innings.  According to Superior's stats, this was Hedley's first appearance on the mound this season, however he was 6-2 with a 4.61 ERA at Mesabi Range CTC last season.

Who would of thought that would be the case? 

Anyway, Superior's win in Game #2 marked their first victory over Oshkosh since 1973, and the Yellow Jackets are now 3-41 all time aginst the Titans.

Stout also manages to win Game #2 today, 10-7, to avoid the a four game sweep against Platteville.  Ross Bennett breaks out of his "mini-slump" by going 4x8 to lead the Pioneers.

By looking at the weather forecast, things don't look to favorable for La Crosse and Stevens Point getting in their DH on Wednesday.  I have a feeling there are going to be some people wishing they would have just played the games today and got them in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 08:00:36 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 3/30)
Oshkosh 3-1
Platteville 3-1
La Crosse 1-1
Stevens Point 1-1
Whitewater 0-0
Stout 1-3
Superior 1-3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 09:10:08 pm
I think Justin Saufley is their number 1 right now so expect him to go tomorrow. Joey Hostrawser is probably their number 2 but just pitched against St. Johns.  Bouvine and Wink are probably 3 and 4. Its tough to say right now who are their top guys but probably they way i would put them.
So according to your projections, UWO pounds Superior's #1 (Saufley) for seven runs and eleven hits in a little over three innings, but gets nothing off of Superior's #? (Nate Hedley) mustering only three hits in 9 innings.  According to Superior's stats, this was Hedley's first appearance on the mound this season, however he was 6-2 with a 4.61 ERA at Mesabi Range CTC last season.

Who would of thought that would be the case? 


Yea Saufley is probably their #1 but its not set in stone or anything im just taking an educated guess. Hostrawser could their #1 also but Saufley is one of their top pitchers. Hedley hadnt pitched but from past years hasnt been too bad in JUCO.  UWOs hitting besides a few guys hasnt been doing much and their pitching besides top 3 hasnt been impressive.

Was the STP/LAX game prematurely cancelled CUBS or was the weather bad? Surprised to see Plateville take 3 from Stout

I saw that Scholastica had to postpone 6 games so their schedule is getting jumbled up so if STP prematurely cancelled or whatever the case was is  too bad cuz it could hurt teams if their schedules get packed full of games. Forecast looks like it should warm up but depends on the rain
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 09:59:03 pm
UWOs hitting besides a few guys hasnt been doing much and their pitching besides top 3 hasnt been impressive.
Everyone knew that outside of Reubens, Demmin, and Hendricks that UWO didn't have much pitching.  This is why you saw position players like Kannenberg and Wetenkamp take the mound at the Metrodome.  Very seldom do you see guys at UWO both pitch and hit.  The last one I can think of who consistently did it was Craig Glysch back in the late 90's.  As far as their hitters, I think you will see them come around.  Guys like Jason Fosler, Mike Waupoose, and Pete Berg are too good of hitters to stay down for too long.  UWO is really missing Mickey Fadness more than I thought they would at this time.....

Was the STP/LAX game prematurely cancelled CUBS or was the weather bad? Surprised to see Plateville take 3 from Stout
The pair of DH's were originally scheduled to take place AT Stevens Point.  Since Point's field wasn't going to be ready for Saturday's DH, they agreed to move it to La Crosse, and rescheduled Sunday's DH for Wednesday at Point.  My guess is that Point didn't want to give up four home games, and I guess I can't really blame them, especially when their line-up is built for the softball diamond they play on.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 30, 2008, 10:31:17 pm
UWOs hitting besides a few guys hasnt been doing much and their pitching besides top 3 hasnt been impressive.
Everyone knew that outside of Reubens, Demmin, and Hendricks that UWO didn't have much pitching.  This is why you saw position players like Kannenberg and Wetenkamp take the mound at the Metrodome.  Very seldom do you see guys at UWO both pitch and hit.  The last one I can think of who consistently did it was Craig Glysch back in the late 90's.  As far as their hitters, I think you will see them come around.  Guys like Jason Fosler, Mike Waupoose, and Pete Berg are too good of hitters to stay down for too long.  UWO is really missing Mickey Fadness more than I thought they would at this time.....

Was the STP/LAX game prematurely cancelled CUBS or was the weather bad? Surprised to see Plateville take 3 from Stout
The pair of DH's were originally scheduled to take place AT Stevens Point.  Since Point's field wasn't going to be ready for Saturday's DH, they agreed to move it to La Crosse, and rescheduled Sunday's DH for Wednesday at Point.  My guess is that Point didn't want to give up four home games, and I guess I can't really blame them, especially when their line-up is built for the softball diamond they play on.
  If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field? If games can't be played on Apr. 2nd, they will be played on Apr.30th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on March 30, 2008, 10:31:41 pm
Cubs, did you go to the games today? I couldn't. I'd like to hear what people had to say about Superior's pitching.

Slinger, what's your take on Oshkosh? How does UWO stack up against the rest of your opponents? Wouldn't imagine that the Titans wowed you. They didn't look like a Top 25 team on Saturday let alone the No. 7 team.

Looks like the UWO lineup produced from top to bottom in Game 1, then got dominated again in Game 2. I hope the UWO bats warm with the weather.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 30, 2008, 10:42:11 pm
to stay down for too long.  UWO is really missing Mickey Fadness more than I thought they would at this time.....


  If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field? If games can't be played on Apr. 2nd, they will be played on Apr.30th.

Lets face it the majority of Wisconsin fields are pretty rinky dink
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 10:50:44 pm
If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field?
Unless things have changed in the recent past, it was always tougher to hit a ball out at La Crosse than at Point.  I will say this, if Point/LAX get their DH in on Wednesday, there will be more than the 3 HR's that were hit on Saturday in two games at La Crosse.

For the sake of comparison, there were ZERO HR's hit in four games at Oshkosh this weekend, and TWO at Platteville.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 10:53:58 pm
Cubs, did you go to the games today?
Nope....  Wasn't able to make it.  Unfortunately it doens't look too promising to make any games this season, unless I call in sick for one of the two Point DH's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on March 30, 2008, 11:08:20 pm
Lets face it the majority of Wisconsin fields are pretty rinky dink
I know you said the majority, but UWO's Tiedemann Field is not what I would call "hitter friendly."  When you add in the recently added "double-decker fences" (I believe they are either 14 feet high) to the distances below, it definitely is a pitchers park.  It makes the numbers that Jorgenson and Lieder put up in 1995 even more impressive.  While it may be "short" right down the lines, it jets out pretty quick by the time you get to the gaps.

LF-330 Feet
LCF-370 Feet
CF-403 Feet
RCF-365 Feet
RF-325 Feet
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 31, 2008, 01:01:22 am
Nate Hedley was a surpirse pick to start game 2 but did a very good job, his era may be listed as 4.6 whatever but from playing with him last year it was actually in the mid 2's...our stats person at Mesabi wasnt the greatest.  He has ability, his shoulder has prevented him from getting work on the mound this year...he certainly sacked up today and did a great job.

From talking to Justin it sounded like he didnt have very good command today which led to his poor outing. Im sure hell rebound next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on March 31, 2008, 01:08:19 am
Cubs, did you go to the games today? I couldn't. I'd like to hear what people had to say about Superior's pitching.

Slinger, what's your take on Oshkosh? How does UWO stack up against the rest of your opponents? Wouldn't imagine that the Titans wowed you. They didn't look like a Top 25 team on Saturday let alone the No. 7 team.

Looks like the UWO lineup produced from top to bottom in Game 1, then got dominated again in Game 2. I hope the UWO bats warm with the weather.

Youre right I wasnt impressed with their bats really, they did do a good job defensively, not giving anything away certainly helped with the close games this weekend.  The best hitting team that weve played against so far this year would probably be Bethany Lutheran, other than that UWO had the best pitching...etc, but we havent faced much top level competition. 

Cant really compare UWO to the rest of the WIAC, because even though im from Soup, these were the first WIAC games Ive ever gone to. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on March 31, 2008, 11:38:12 am
Nice win for UWS. To go into Oshkosh and get one is a great accomplishment for a program on the rise. Congrats. I am convinced that UWO will be at the top of the mountain when it's all said and done. That is a very talented young lineup that wont stay in a slump long. Their pitching is young, but the top four are as good as any in the league. The WIAC wont have a lot of weekend sweeps as in the past, because the depth in the rotations is not there. Plenty of good young arms yet to get into form and show what they are going to mean down the stretch.
I do have a question though. What is going on with Nix at Point. He was suppose to be dominant arm in the WIAC this year. But his outings have been less than spectacular, is he healthy?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on March 31, 2008, 01:06:48 pm
Lets face it the majority of Wisconsin fields are pretty rinky dink
I know you said the majority, but UWO's Tiedemann Field is not what I would call "hitter friendly."  When you add in the recently added "double-decker fences" (I believe they are either 14 feet high) to the distances below, it definitely is a pitchers park.  It makes the numbers that Jorgenson and Lieder put up in 1995 even more impressive.  While it may be "short" right down the lines, it jets out pretty quick by the time you get to the gaps.

LF-330 Feet
LCF-370 Feet
CF-403 Feet
RCF-365 Feet
RF-325 Feet

When I said most, I had one exception in mind and that was Oshkosh's field
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on March 31, 2008, 09:04:08 pm
Nice win for UWS. To go into Oshkosh and get one is a great accomplishment for a program on the rise. Congrats. I am convinced that UWO will be at the top of the mountain when it's all said and done. That is a very talented young lineup that wont stay in a slump long. Their pitching is young, but the top four are as good as any in the league. The WIAC wont have a lot of weekend sweeps as in the past, because the depth in the rotations is not there. Plenty of good young arms yet to get into form and show what they are going to mean down the stretch.
I do have a question though. What is going on with Nix at Point. He was suppose to be dominant arm in the WIAC this year. But his outings have been less than spectacular, is he healthy?
To the best of my knowledge, Nix is healthy. Has a history of not being able to go long into games. Nice to be able to throw in the 90's, but you still need to have control. Don't expect him to remain the ace of the staff much longer. Watched him over the summer in Eau Claire, managed to put up decent numbers, but not as consistant as Zielke was.
Side note, rumour is Hemstead will not pitch this year. The type of surgery he had in November will require a lot more healing time than a few months. Sucks, but he should come back next season even better.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 01, 2008, 11:13:11 am
Article in Stevens Point Journal says that Travis Kempf is the ace for the Pointers. Not sure where Nix will be in the rotation.
Also nice to see Platteville got 2 votes for the recent poll. That makes 4 teams either in the top 25 or receiving votes. I think there will be much more balance this year in the WIAC and no team will run away with the title.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 01, 2008, 10:54:51 pm
Update on the Hemi situation. Should have checked more into the RUMOUR.
My fault for not checking. Just bringing him along slowly. Will pitch at some point soon.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 02, 2008, 05:37:58 pm
Update on the Hemi situation. Should have checked more into the RUMOUR.
My fault for not checking. Just bringing him along slowly. Will pitch at some point soon.
That is good for USP, who ever can bring the most pitching to the conference tourney will go far, even though the ERA's might go through the rough at Wisconsin Rapids. Still excited to see who is going to take control of the 4 spot as the season progresses.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2008, 09:33:48 pm
If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field?
I will say this, if Point/LAX get their DH in on Wednesday, there will be more than the 3 HR's that were hit on Saturday in two games at La Crosse.
Well, Point managed to hit six HR's today against the Eagles....  They had three in each game of a DH sweep, a 13-1 seven inning rout in Game #1 and a 9-7 victory in Game #2. 

For the record, LAX also hit a pair of HR's on the day, both in Game #2.

Looks like the slowpitch softball atmosphere is alive and well at Point...... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 02, 2008, 09:35:09 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/2)
Oshkosh 3-1
Platteville 3-1
Stevens Point 3-1
Whitewater 0-0
La Crosse 1-3
Stout 1-3
Superior 1-3
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 02, 2008, 10:11:58 pm
If Point plays on a softball diamond, what does that say about LAX field?
I will say this, if Point/LAX get their DH in on Wednesday, there will be more than the 3 HR's that were hit on Saturday in two games at La Crosse.
Well, Point managed to hit six HR's today against the Eagles....  They had three in each game of a DH sweep, a 13-1 seven inning rout in Game #1 and a 9-7 victory in Game #2. 

For the record, LAX also hit a pair of HR's on the day, both in Game #2.

Looks like the slowpitch softball atmosphere is alive and well at Point...... ::)

Including the not-so-covert adult beverage consumption taking place down the right field line, I assume.  Ah, spring.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 03, 2008, 09:09:39 am
LaCrosse entered the games last in the conference with a team ERA of 7.00.  Looks like it could be getting worse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 02:42:50 pm
After Oshkosh takes a 5-1 lead in the top of the 5th to chase Whitewater ace Adam Dominick, WW comes back to hit back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back HR's off Ryan Demmin to take a 6-5 lead in the bottom of the 5th.

Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, but the wind is blowing out and there are some fireworks in Whitewater. UWO has one solo dinger, WW now has six solo shots.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 05, 2008, 03:25:52 pm
In my day, it would have been backtoback, HBP.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 05, 2008, 03:32:08 pm
Tough news out of UW-Stout today. Three students die in an off-campus house fire.

Stout Website (http://www.uwstout.edu/deaths)

Certainly tough to deal with. Prayers and toughts are with the UW-Stout community!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 04:07:44 pm
Whitewater beats Oshkosh, 9-7, in a wild Game 1. WW tacks on two more HRs in the ninth to complete the comeback.

UWO gets a SF from frosh pinch hitter Blake Berger in the 9th to tie and a go-ahead two-out, RBI double from frosh CF Nolan Fadness.

WW comes back with a solo HR (Zalnis) off closer Jeremy Rubens to tie in the 9th. Then Matt Schliewe hit a pinch-hit walkoff 2-run HR to center. Rubens failed to get an out.

Tough loss for UWO. All of WW's runs come from 8 HRs. Teams combine for 31 hits and 23 left on base.

UWO SP Ryan Demmin: 8 IP, 13 H, 13 K, BB, 6 HR, about 170 pitches.
WW RP Mike Jacobson pitches 1/3 IP and gets the win.

WW HR: Stine 2, Zalnis 2, Kuhlman, Donovan, Corcoran, Schliewe.
UWO HR: Kannenberg.

EDIT: WW won Game 2, 8-3. UWO held to two hits. WW hits two more bombs for an even 10 HRs on the day. Billy Johnson and Kevin Zalnis (3 HRs on the day) connected in Game 2. UWO SP Travis Helland didn't get an out in the 2nd inning before being charged with 4 ER, and WW led 5-0 after two.

Only two WW regulars did not go deep in either game. UWO's Nolan Fadness hit an HR in Game 2.
WW SP Aaron Dott: 7 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 8 BB, 5 K, 3 WP (I think that's called effectively wild).
WW RP Gregg Reik: 2 IP, 0 H, 4 K.

Hey, pollsters. Whitewater is a Top 25 team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 05, 2008, 08:57:40 pm
We'll see about that top 25 after tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 05, 2008, 09:13:41 pm
Trailing 5-1 in game one WHITEWATER hit back to back to back to back to back home runs in the bottom of the fifth.  That's five consecutive home runs on what probably wasn't more than a total of a dozen pitches.  It was wild.  I've never seen anything quite like it.   Seven solo home runs, one two runner and a 9-7 win. 

Oops, I see OshDude already mentioned it.  My bad.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 09:22:17 pm
We'll see about that top 25 after tomorrow.
I think the 'Hawks are Top 25 material no matter what happens tomorrow. I may be in the minority there, but I hope not.

They have a lot going for them: a recent power program with a national title a few years back, nice wins, silly production against one of MW region's top young pitchers and a good overall record. We'll see. You definitely could be correct with the wait-and-see approach, but I'm sold.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 05, 2008, 09:22:28 pm
Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, ...

The back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers were a UW-W school record for consecutive home runs in an inning. The UW-W school record for most home runs in an inning was six against Carrol College on April 15, 1997. The UW-W school record for home runs in a game was 10 against UW-Stevens Point on April 28, 1995.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 05, 2008, 09:26:41 pm
The consecutive home runs were amazing...maybe next time the pitcher gets pulled after, say, three consecutive home runs?

Nice crowd today

And nice t-shirts...too bad there were none in my size (2XL)...I did buy one for a friend
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 09:45:41 pm
Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, ...

The back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers were a UW-W school record for consecutive home runs in an inning. The UW-W school record for most home runs in an inning was six against Carrol College on April 15, 1997. The UW-W school record for home runs in a game was 10 against UW-Stevens Point on April 28, 1995.
Looked at the record book. There's no entry in the book for consecutive HRs in D3. The record for HRs in an inning in D3 is six, which you mentioned Whitewater has done before and has been done several times.

The D1 record for consecutive HRs is five, set by Eastern Illinois against Moreland St. in 1998 and by Centenary against Stephen F. Austin in 1992. The D2 record for consecutive HRs is also five, set by Alabama-Huntsville against West Alabama in 1998.

I'm guessing five straight HRs a D3 record, but there's no category for consecutive HRs in the NCAA record book for whatever reason.

I'd put a lot of money in writing that UWO SP Ryan Demmin, who was named the WIAC Pitcher of the Week after two CG wins last week, set an all-divisions record by giving up 5 consecutive HRs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 05, 2008, 10:51:25 pm
Stout and Superior split a DH today

UWS won the first game 4-2.

Bouvine, W (3-2) 7 ip 4 h 2 er 3 k 0 bb
Hostrawser, SV 2 ip 0 h 3 k 0 bb

Hostrawser and Berenguer with HR for UWS in the first game, Billy Tafs had 3 hits.

Tim Schneider had a HR for Stout.

Stout won the second game 5-3.

Schneider had another HR as did Sean Cummings for UWS.

Mitch Loegering, Scott Hoium and Nick Hedley all had multi-hit games in the second game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2008, 11:11:42 am
Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, ...

The back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers were a UW-W school record for consecutive home runs in an inning. The UW-W school record for most home runs in an inning was six against Carrol College on April 15, 1997. The UW-W school record for home runs in a game was 10 against UW-Stevens Point on April 28, 1995.

I'd put a lot of money in writing that UWO SP Ryan Demmin, who was named the WIAC Pitcher of the Week after two CG wins last week, set an all-divisions record by giving up 5 consecutive HRs.

It was strange because take away about 10 pitches in that inning and one mistake to Jordan Stine in the third inning and Demmin was very difficult to hit.  He's got a nasty curve and yesterday he was throwing it for strikes.  He made a few hitters look silly at the plate.    Several of us were dumbfounded that Lechner left him in the game in the fifth but he threw three more really good innings before being relieved in the ninth.   He's a really good pitcher and his brother saved at least three runs with a couple of incredible plays on line shots at first.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 06, 2008, 11:14:39 am
Don't know if 5 consecutive HR's is a record, ...

The back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers were a UW-W school record for consecutive home runs in an inning. The UW-W school record for most home runs in an inning was six against Carrol College on April 15, 1997. The UW-W school record for home runs in a game was 10 against UW-Stevens Point on April 28, 1995.



Don't quote me but if I remember correctly Stevens Point had nine home runs in that game and it set the NCAA D3 record for combined home runs by two teams at 19.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2008, 07:44:55 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/6)
Stevens Point 3-1
Oshkosh 5-3
Platteville 5-3
Whitewater 2-2
La Crosse 3-5
Stout 3-5
Superior 3-5

Interesting to note that Superior's Nate Hedley did not take the mound for the Jacket's this weekend after shutting down Oshkosh last weekend.  I would think it would be safe to assume he may throw on Wednesday against La Crosse.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2008, 07:53:51 pm
We'll see about that top 25 after tomorrow.
I think the 'Hawks are Top 25 material no matter what happens tomorrow. I may be in the minority there, but I hope not.

They have a lot going for them: a recent power program with a national title a few years back, nice wins, silly production against one of MW region's top young pitchers and a good overall record. We'll see. You definitely could be correct with the wait-and-see approach, but I'm sold.
Well Oshkosh bounces back and sweeps the Warhawks today 8-5 and 10-5.  I have not been able to find any box scores as of yet, but my guess would be that Hendricks and Reubens were the wining pitchers while Jacobson and Johnson were the losing pitchers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2008, 08:26:48 pm
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on April 06, 2008, 08:51:35 pm
Oshkosh/WW game stories and box scores (http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2008/4/6/bb462008_Oshkoshagain.asp?path=baseball).

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 06, 2008, 09:56:21 pm
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.

Yea they are not afraid to use Reubens! He will be burned out by seasons end at this pace
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 06, 2008, 10:09:35 pm
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.
Yea they are not afraid to use Reubens! He will be burned out by seasons end at this pace
They did the same thing with Gerl last season (appeared in 26 of 47 games, however 0 starts, pitching 63.2 innings) and he didn't appear to break down.  Hopefully Reubens has the same type of endurance, or a short staff would become even shorter without an effective Reubens.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 06, 2008, 11:58:13 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/6)
Stevens Point 3-1
Oshkosh 5-3
Platteville 5-3
Whitewater 2-2
La Crosse 3-5
Stout 3-5
Superior 3-5

Interesting to note that Superior's Nate Hedley did not take the mound for the Jacket's this weekend after shutting down Oshkosh last weekend.  I would think it would be safe to assume he may throw on Wednesday against La Crosse.

Im not sure what you may be looking at but we dont face La Crosse until the later portion of the season, our next games are @ Point next weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 07:46:46 am
WIAC Standings (Through 4/6)
Stevens Point 3-1
Oshkosh 5-3
Platteville 5-3
Whitewater 2-2
La Crosse 3-5
Stout 3-5
Superior 3-5
Interesting to note that Superior's Nate Hedley did not take the mound for the Jacket's this weekend after shutting down Oshkosh last weekend.  I would think it would be safe to assume he may throw on Wednesday against La Crosse.

Im not sure what you may be looking at but we dont face La Crosse until the later portion of the season, our next games are @ Point next weekend.
Ooops!!!  I must have been looking at Stout's schedule, and not Superior's..... 

That makes it even more puzzling that a guy who shut down a Top 25 team last weekend doesn't even step on the mound this weekend....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:12:18 am
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.
Yea they are not afraid to use Reubens! He will be burned out by seasons end at this pace
They did the same thing with Gerl last season (appeared in 26 of 47 games, however 0 starts, pitching 63.2 innings) and he didn't appear to break down.  Hopefully Reubens has the same type of endurance, or a short staff would become even shorter without an effective Reubens.

Well with basically 2/3 of the year left Rubens has already thrown 31 2/3 and Demmin 30 1/3 so they are on pace for over 90 innings each after the WIAC tourney which is a lot of innings in such a short time. Gerl was strictly a RP where Rubens is throwing 11 innings every weekend. 

so hopefully for UWO sake they dont burnout because they could be in big trouble come playoff time since their pitching staff is not deep. But they might have to ride those 2 in order to make it to the regional
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 07, 2008, 12:47:30 pm
I had the pitchers of record correct, although I am a little surprised about Reubens.  After facing three batters and picking up the loss in Game #1 yesterday, Reubens comes back to earn a save and a win today.  He throws 1.2 scoreless innings in relief of Curt Hendricks in Game #1 allowing only one hit.  In Game #2, he goes the distance, scattering 14 hits while giving up 5 runs.  For the season, Reubens has now appeared in over half (8 out of 15) of the Titans games, making only two starts.  It will be interesting to see who starts for the Titans on Wednesday against Stevens Point. 

I could honestly see this year being a repeat of the 2006 season, where the top four or five teams are seprated by only a few games.  I would venture to say that the WIAC champion this season will have at least 6 losses, which has happened only once since the WIAC went to a 24 game conference schedule.  If that occurs, it would likely mean no Pool C bid for anyone.
Yea they are not afraid to use Reubens! He will be burned out by seasons end at this pace
They did the same thing with Gerl last season (appeared in 26 of 47 games, however 0 starts, pitching 63.2 innings) and he didn't appear to break down.  Hopefully Reubens has the same type of endurance, or a short staff would become even shorter without an effective Reubens.
I think he is the guy, but I fear the load they are putting on him this early. I see them doing to him what happened at St. Olaf last season with Mathison. I hate to see young arms potentially damaged due to a lack of confidence in the rest of the staff. Does anyone know how many pitches he logged on Sunday?
Sunday was a huge day for UWO, if they lose one of those two, winning the conference is a slim chance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 12:50:07 pm
Didn't work out well for Gerl at the end of the season against Point. Better to have several pitchers you can rely on the one or two studs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 01:17:19 pm
Didn't work out well for Gerl at the end of the season against Point.
Last time I checked, Gerl was 1-0 with a save against Point last season.....  Although he gave up some runs, Oshkosh won both games he appeared in.

If you want to go a step further, Gerl was 1-0 with a save in the Midwest Regional at the end of the season as well.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 07, 2008, 01:23:50 pm
Didn't work out well for Gerl at the end of the season against Point. Better to have several pitchers you can rely on the one or two studs.
Gerl was little different, he was not used as a starter. He appeared in plenty of games, but for an inning or two at a time. There starting staff last year was much deeper. He was not asked to relieve, relieve, start. Coach Lechnir knows what he's doing but I fear late season fatigue which is where the injury part comes in. He is only a soph I think.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 01:40:36 pm
Thought Point got to him in the conference tournament or the regional Championship game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 02:00:12 pm
I guess it all depends on a teams overall goal. Some are to make it the regional and some are to win the regional. Right now it seems like UWOs goal is to make it to the regional. Its tough to win 4 games riding mainly 2 pitchers. Need to have a deep pitching staff for 4 games, more if you lose.

Its different to pitch your horse of your staff on short days rest in the playoffs and its another to be doing it in the regular season. It will be interesting to see how things pan out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on April 07, 2008, 02:44:51 pm
I highly doubt that UWO would ever be satisfied with, or set a goal to just make it to a regional.  They want to make it, and they want to win it.  Their pitching, like alot of other teams, will have to develop as the season moves along.  And you are correct, it will be interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2008, 03:24:33 pm
The four game weekend series will be changing after this season concludes.  It's my understanding that the league will go to three game weekend series with one game on Friday and a doublehitter on Saturday leaving Sunday open for any weather related problems.  I guess the teams will still play each other four times but I'm unclear on how or when the fourth game would be played.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 03:34:06 pm
Thought Point got to him in the conference tournament or the regional Championship game.
Gerl did not pitch in either the WIAC tournament game that Point won 9-2 or the Regional Championship game that Point won 6-0.  Point beat up on Roos and Mumper in the WIAC Tournament and Rubens and Bolton in the Regional.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 04:04:52 pm
The four game weekend series will be changing after this season concludes.  It's my understanding that the league will go to three game weekend series with one game on Friday and a doublehitter on Saturday leaving Sunday open for any weather related problems.  I guess the teams will still play each other four times but I'm unclear on how or when the fourth game would be played.   

That seems odd-meaning they are playing 4 times but only 1 on friday and 2 on saturday so they suppose to travel up and play another time. If they do make the switch either play 2 on friday/2 saturday for 4 games or just play 1 on friday/2 saturday for 3 games i think it will be nice to have that sunday open for weather
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 07, 2008, 04:06:42 pm
Thought Point got to him in the conference tournament or the regional Championship game.
Gerl did not pitch in either the WIAC tournament game that Point won 9-2 or the Regional Championship game that Point won 6-0.  Point beat up on Roos and Mumper in the WIAC Tournament and Rubens and Bolton in the Regional.

I stand corrected. Thanks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 07, 2008, 04:23:03 pm
The four game weekend series will be changing after this season concludes.  It's my understanding that the league will go to three game weekend series with one game on Friday and a doublehitter on Saturday leaving Sunday open for any weather related problems.  I guess the teams will still play each other four times but I'm unclear on how or when the fourth game would be played.   

That seems odd-meaning they are playing 4 times but only 1 on friday and 2 on saturday so they suppose to travel up and play another time. If they do make the switch either play 2 on friday/2 saturday for 4 games or just play 1 on friday/2 saturday for 3 games i think it will be nice to have that sunday open for weather

I have a feeling they are going to scrap the fourth game altogether and just play everyone three times.  There's just no way you can justify some of the longer trips (WW to SUP?  PLT to SUP? Stout to OSH?) on a weeknight, to only play one game.

That means teams will have to pick up a few more non-conf games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2008, 05:25:32 pm
I agree the scheduling of the fourth game makes no sense.  With it already being somewhat of a scramble to find enough nonconference games adding six to the total isn't going to make anything easier.

From what I understand it's the pitching depth issue that is prompting the change. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 05:37:28 pm
The four game weekend series will be changing after this season concludes.  It's my understanding that the league will go to three game weekend series with one game on Friday and a doublehitter on Saturday leaving Sunday open for any weather related problems.  I guess the teams will still play each other four times but I'm unclear on how or when the fourth game would be played.   

That seems odd-meaning they are playing 4 times but only 1 on friday and 2 on saturday so they suppose to travel up and play another time. If they do make the switch either play 2 on friday/2 saturday for 4 games or just play 1 on friday/2 saturday for 3 games i think it will be nice to have that sunday open for weather

I have a feeling they are going to scrap the fourth game altogether and just play everyone three times.  There's just no way you can justify some of the longer trips (WW to SUP?  PLT to SUP? Stout to OSH?) on a weeknight, to only play one game.

That means teams will have to pick up a few more non-conf games.
I think the WIAC should keep the four-game weekends for the distant teams, but play shorter games. I don't know if there's ever been talk in the WIAC of playing 7-inning games or a 9/7 split, but many of the nation's conferences play shorter games. In the end, that doubly taxes WIAC teams – not many conferences regularly play four-game weekends, and the ones that do rarely (never?) play four 9-inning contests.

In a way the WIAC schedule prepares its teams for the potentially arduous postseason pitching schedules. But by the time some WIAC teams get to regionals (and often before regionals), WIAC pitching staffs have carried a burden not many other teams in the nation have. I don't have definitive proof of that, but when I look around the nation I don't see many, if any, other teams playing four 9-inning games in two days in the regular season.

Pitching depth is always key for all teams, but there are many other factors (how to use the staff ace, etc.) in the WIAC and that makes it even harder than the leagues that play three-game weekends, sometimes with 7-inning games (I think. Again, this is a knee-jerk response and not based on all empirical data). Going to 7-inning games or using some sort of 9/7 split would go a long way to easing the burden on WIAC pitchers, especially now that Superior is no longer a "bye" where you could use just about anyone.

Is it for "purist" reasons that the WIAC remains a holdout by playing all 9-inning games – most of the time four games in two days?

A final thought: The WIAC teams that have ultimately succeeded in the tournament and won regionals (Point, Whitewater, Oshkosh) have mostly featured ridiculous pitching talent to aid very good offenses (Zimmerman, Reinhard, Tomas..., Timm, Taschner, Glysch, Kimball, Grater, Washburn and other draftees). Without a WIAC team having, by far, the best pitching talent (either individual or team depth), I think the conference will come up short, thanks to its regular-season structure.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 pm
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 09:43:22 pm
Oshdude I like what you had to say and had some of the same thoughts.

The South and West can afford to play 9 inning games because their games are spaced out over a much longer time and they dont play 4 nines in two days. Its hard on the WIAC to play 4 9 inning games in a weekend. i think they should make the switch to 3 9s or 4 7s
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:04:26 pm
Its hard on the WIAC to play 4 9 inning games in a weekend. i think they should make the switch to 3 9s or 4 7s
Looking at those options, I'd take 3 nine inning games in a heartbeat.....

Seven inning games are for softball, although with the dimensions of some of the WIAC fields, I guess it would fit..... ::)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 07, 2008, 10:17:40 pm
Seven inning games stink for college baseball.  I understand the reasons to do it, but it still stinks.

I'd be fine with three nines and I guess two 7/9 doubleheaders would be OK.  If they went to four 7-inning games that would be REALLY disappointing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 pm
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 pm
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Warhawk19 on April 07, 2008, 10:45:58 pm
In case anyone was curious, here is a terrible quality video showing the back to back to back to back to back home runs by the warhawks last saturday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZp2jKTpPN4
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:13:19 pm
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....

I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 07, 2008, 11:19:35 pm
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Pitchers condtioned more, but the position players did their fair share as well....  The conditioning the position players did, not only helped aerobically, but it also got our legs stronger combined with the time spent in the weight room.  There were many of mornings spent in the pool swimming in addition to the running.

As far as conditioning not being important in baseball, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the year I was in the best shape, was my best year hitting the ball.  My legs were stronger, which allowed me to get to the inside pitches quicker.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 08, 2008, 09:23:25 am
We'll see about that top 25 after tomorrow.
I think the 'Hawks are Top 25 material no matter what happens tomorrow. I may be in the minority there, but I hope not.

They have a lot going for them: a recent power program with a national title a few years back, nice wins, silly production against one of MW region's top young pitchers and a good overall record. We'll see. You definitely could be correct with the wait-and-see approach, but I'm sold.
Well janesvilleflash was correct, as Whitewater is once again on the outside looking in this weeks Top 25 poll, 17 points behind Depauw at #27.

Oshkosh drops five spots for the second straight week, to #17, while Point moves up four spots to #20.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 08, 2008, 05:28:01 pm
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Pitchers condtioned more, but the position players did their fair share as well....  The conditioning the position players did, not only helped aerobically, but it also got our legs stronger combined with the time spent in the weight room.  There were many of mornings spent in the pool swimming in addition to the running.

As far as conditioning not being important in baseball, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the year I was in the best shape, was my best year hitting the ball.  My legs were stronger, which allowed me to get to the inside pitches quicker.

Well there is a difference between conditioning for endurance and for strength. I think there should be some conditioning in baseball but only to supplement weight lifting. Baseball is generally a quick burst strength sport. So there really is no reason for positionals to work on running 2 miles they will never need it. By the time they use a quick burst enough time has passed before they will use it again. Lifting and short sprints are the best

On the other side pitchers need that endurance in their legs so running long distances coupled with lifting is a good idea. Need that strength plus the endurance

To get to inside pitches faster you use your core (abs) not your legs or to get to the inside pitch you cheat and open up early.

Overall I agree being in good shape helps, but always exceptions Prince Fielder, Miguel Cabrera, C.C. Sabathia
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 09, 2008, 04:10:56 pm
One way to avoid playing six 9-inning games in five days is to crush a team in seven innings, like La Crosse is doing at Stout today.

For those bored at work or school today, Stout has live stats http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm (http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm). Don't know if Stout is offering Game 2.

It's LAX 16, Stout 2, in the 7th of Game 1 as I type this. Stout has used seven pitchers in seven innings ... not the best way to get through six games in five days. Someone should have taken one for the team, as they say, after it was 12-1 in the 3rd.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 09, 2008, 06:06:05 pm
One way to avoid playing six 9-inning games in five days is to crush a team in seven innings, like La Crosse is doing at Stout today.

For those bored at work or school today, Stout has live stats http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm (http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm). Don't know if Stout is offering Game 2.

It's LAX 16, Stout 2, in the 7th of Game 1 as I type this. Stout has used seven pitchers in seven innings ... not the best way to get through six games in five days. Someone should have taken one for the team, as they say, after it was 12-1 in the 3rd.



Ouch!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 09, 2008, 06:48:18 pm
OshDude thanks for the link. It is 8-8 in the 7th inning. To bad more teams don't have a setup like this.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 09, 2008, 09:02:30 pm
The WARHAWKS swept Platteville today 5-0 and 11-4.   Adam Dominick pitched 8 shutout innings, striking out 10, to get the win and Gregg Reik finished by striking out two of the three batters he faced in the ninth.  Ben Prather got things started with a 2 run double in the first inning and Kevin Zalnis added a home run. 

WW scored 9 of their first 10 runs with two outs in game two.  Aaron Dott struggled with his control walking six but surrendered only 3 hits and struck out 8 in five innings to get the win.  Kale Olson, Gregg Riek and Jason Hooper combined to throw four innings of relef and finish the game.  Prather hit well again going 3x4 with an RBI and 2 RS.  Billy Johnson went 2x3 with a pair of RBI and RS. 

WW improves to 4-2, 13-4. 

The weather forecast sounds pretty bad for playing a pair of doublehitters this weekend vs Stout.   Rain, rain and more rain.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2008, 09:22:46 am
WIAC Standings (Through 4/9)
Stevens Point 3-1
Whitewater 4-2
Oshkosh 5-3
La Crosse 5-5
Platteville 5-5
Superior 3-5
Stout 3-7

Stevens Point/Oshkosh DH postponed to April 10th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 10, 2008, 09:31:26 am
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Pitchers condtioned more, but the position players did their fair share as well....  The conditioning the position players did, not only helped aerobically, but it also got our legs stronger combined with the time spent in the weight room.  There were many of mornings spent in the pool swimming in addition to the running.

As far as conditioning not being important in baseball, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the year I was in the best shape, was my best year hitting the ball.  My legs were stronger, which allowed me to get to the inside pitches quicker.
Well there is a difference between conditioning for endurance and for strength. I think there should be some conditioning in baseball but only to supplement weight lifting. Baseball is generally a quick burst strength sport. So there really is no reason for positionals to work on running 2 miles they will never need it. By the time they use a quick burst enough time has passed before they will use it again. Lifting and short sprints are the best

On the other side pitchers need that endurance in their legs so running long distances coupled with lifting is a good idea. Need that strength plus the endurance

To get to inside pitches faster you use your core (abs) not your legs or to get to the inside pitch you cheat and open up early.

Overall I agree being in good shape helps, but always exceptions Prince Fielder, Miguel Cabrera, C.C. Sabathia
You are right about the cores being important, which we also did on a regular basis.  However if you really believe you don't need strong legs to hit consistently, take a look at David Ortiz right now.  He is coming off of off-season surgery, and his back leg just isn't strong enough yet to carry his load/weight transfer before the swing.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 10, 2008, 04:54:50 pm
You are right about the cores being important, which we also did on a regular basis.  However if you really believe you don't need strong legs to hit consistently, take a look at David Ortiz right now.  He is coming off of off-season surgery, and his back leg just isn't strong enough yet to carry his load/weight transfer before the swing.

No I never said that you dont need legs. Your legs dont need be conditioned for endurance as a hitter unless you plan on taking 50+ full cuts in a row. Strength and power is what you need.


So teams in Wisconsin going to get games in this weekend or is suppose to rain?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 10, 2008, 05:00:38 pm
Could be LOTS of snow up north, LOTS of rain everywhere else. Could maybe play Sunday and Monday next week. Looks like Point/Oshkosh may play next Wednesday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on April 11, 2008, 04:10:18 pm
UW-W got the MetroDome for tonight and will play a double-header vs. Stout at 1am.

The AD is going to call the Coach Saturday If we get the weather they are predicting and the field isn't playable for Sunday.  If not playable, they will play another double header again after the Twins game on Saturday around 8pm. 


Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 11, 2008, 04:19:13 pm
The website is saying the Sunday games have been moved to Monday and will be played in WW.  I'm not sure if that's an update or what. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2008/4/11/baseball_04112008_schedulechange.asp?path=baseball

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 11, 2008, 05:02:28 pm
UW-W got the MetroDome for tonight and will play a double-header vs. Stout at 1am.

The AD is going to call the Coach Saturday If we get the weather they are predicting and the field isn't playable for Sunday.  If not playable, they will play another double header again after the Twins game on Saturday around 8pm. 




Good Luck to WW tonight. Hope they make it in one piece to the dome. Weather looks very bad as they try to get there. Smart move to secure the dome for their games, sucks though at playing doubleheader at 1:00 a.m.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on April 11, 2008, 08:25:46 pm
I heard from a player.  Can't see going all the way up there and not trying to get all the games in.  Hoping for good weather on Monday is really an iffy proposition and the kids have to miss classes on Monday.
 This keeps the pitching on-schedule.

As far as playing at 1am.  It "Stinks" for the parents.  That's 3 hours past my bedtime.  But the kids are probably up at that time anyway.    But if they do try to turnaround and play later that night at 8:00pm Saturday that game will be brutal.

Twins are away.  UM baseball?  It shows they were at Northwestern, but maybe they chose to do the same thing and re-schedule to the dome.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on April 12, 2008, 03:50:57 pm
UW-W and UW-Stout did indeed play at the Metrodome Saturday.

Game 1: UW-W: 9  UW-Stout: 7  Winner: G. Donovan (not totally sure on that though).
Game 2: UW-W: 7  UW-Stout: 0  Winner: Munn

First game started at 1:04, second game ended at 6:30
Attendance: Few, but sleepy.

The Twins are in KC, The Gophers never made it to Chicago flight was cancelled...guess which airline the may have been flying.
From what I heard the other games were moved to Monday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 12, 2008, 06:54:33 pm
Mike Jacobson was the winner in relief in game one.  Greg Riek, Kale Olson, Jason Hooper and Jacobson relieved starter Randy Johnson who was gotten to very early.  With the score tied 7-7 in the bottom of the eighth the WARHAWKS scored when a Jeff Donovan RBI double plated Ben Kuhlmann and after being sacrificed to third Donovan scored on a wild pitch.  Jacobson had pitched one out in the top of eighth and finished the ninth for the win.   Donovan finished 2x4 with 2 RS and 3 RBI.  Sam Petrasko and Ben Kuhlmann both had a pair of hits and Kevin Zalnis hit a three run home run.

Joe Munn got the win in game two throwing 6.2 scoreless innings surrendering only 4 hits and striking out 6.  Greg Donovan finished the final 2.1 innings also shuting out Stout on no hits and 3 Ks.  A Jeff Donovan home run in the first inning put the WARHAWKS on top early.  Billy Johnson went 2x4 with 3 RBI and Mike Kenseth also had a pair of hits.  Tom Corcoran added a home run.  The final was 6-0. 

WARHAWKS go 5-1 in the MetroDome this year.  We've played pretty well in there the past few years.

The wins improve the WARHAWKS record to 6-2 in WIAC play and 15-4 overall.  Hopefully the weather cooperates and the field is playable Monday.   I'm so sick of this crap that I've stopped watching the weather reports.  I'll just be surprised when the sun shines.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2008, 08:02:13 pm
Oshkosh sweeps La Crosse today, 9-6 and 15-2 (7 innings.) 

In the opener, Oshkosh scores in each of the first five innings to get an early lead.  Ryan Demin gives up 10 hits and 4 earned runs over 7 2/3 innings to pick up the win and improve to 3-0 on the season.  Jeremy Rubens picks up his third save going the final 1 1/3 giving up a pair of hits, including a Darren O'Donnell solo HR to lead off the 9th.  Freshman CF Nolan Fadness leads the Titans at the plate going 4x5, with a double, scoring two runs, and also driving in a pair.  Brad Demmin, Kyle Kannenberg, and Jason Fosler also chipped in a pair of hits apiece.

In the nightcap, Junior Greg Perlewitz makes just his third start of the season, and picks up a complete game victory to improve to 2-0 on the season.  He gives up just 5 hits and 2 runs in 7 innings pitched.  Oshkosh scores eight runs on 6 hits in the 5th inning, capped off by Mike Waupoose 3-run HR.  The Titans tack on six more in the 7th inning, capped off once again by a 3-run HR, this time by pinch hitter Shayne Jansen.  Kannenberg and Fosler repeat their Game #1 performance picking up a pair of hits each.  They are joined by Waupoose, Derek Hiroskey, and Pete Berg who also pick up a pair of hits each.

It will be interesting to see who Oshkosh sends out to the hill tomorrow, with the Titans having a DH against Point on Wednesday.  If I was a betting man, I would think it would be Hendricks in Game #1 followed by Rubens in Game #2.  Since La Crosse doesn't have another WIAC game until April 23rd, I would think Gibson and Benitz would be getting starts tomorrow for the Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2008, 08:05:35 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/13)
Stevens Point 5-1
Whitewater 6-2
Oshkosh 7-3
Platteville 5-5
La Crosse 5-7
Superior 3-7
Stout 3-9
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 13, 2008, 08:46:16 pm
Point sweeps Superior today, 11-1 (7) and 10-7, without throwing Kempf or Nix.  The question is, are they starting tomorrow, or is Coach Bloom saving them for Wednesday's DH against Oshkosh?

Senior Mike Thrun picked up the win in Game #1 allowing just three hits in six innings pitched, while striking out six and not walking a batter.  The Pointer offense was led by C Doug Coe and CF Brandon Scheidler who each went 3x4 with a HR.  Superior's Tim Bouvine picked up the loss going 5.0+ innings, giving up 8 runs (7 earned) on 11 hits.

In the nightcap, Point used five different pitchers (none of which threw more than 2 2/3 innings) to beat the Yellow Jackets.  Scheidler picked up right where he left off in Game #1, going 2x5 with another HR.  Superior pitcher Justin Saufley was roughed up for the second time in three starts, giving up 7 runs (4 earned) and 7 hits in just three innings pitched.

It will be interesting to see what develops tomorrow.  I would assume TJ Wink and Joey Hostrawser will each start for Superior tomorrow.  However, who starts for Point will be the interesting part.....  Will Kempf and Nix take the mound?  Does Brandon Hemstead return tomorrow?  I would think two of those three guys (if Hemstead is ready to return) would be saved for Oshkosh on Wednesday.  If that indeed is the case, that would mean Superior would more than likely see some of the same guys they saw in Game #2 today on Monday.

Any thoughts???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 14, 2008, 04:09:24 pm
Point wins game 1 today by a score of 12-2. Stewart Larsen hits 3 homeruns for a total of 6 RBIs. Kempf started and only pitched 5 innings, giving up 2 runs in the 5th. Nix scheduled to start game 2. Who goes on Wednesday-not a clue.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2008, 04:35:04 pm
Oshkosh beats La Crosse in Game #1, 7-6 in 11 innings.  Hendricks starts and goes six innings, while Rubens goes five innings in relief.  I am REALLY interested to see who gets the start for Oshkosh in Game #2.  Gibson is scheduled to start for the Indi.... I mean Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2008, 09:17:04 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/14)
Stevens Point 7-1
Whitewater 8-2
Oshkosh 9-3
Platteville 5-5
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-9
Stout 3-11
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2008, 09:40:33 pm
Well the top three teams get further seperation from the rest of the WIAC, as Whitewater, Point, and Oshkosh all get sweeps today.  Oshkosh had the toughest time, as it took them 11 innings in both games to get the victory.

Interestingly, both Point and Oshkosh threw their top guys, with both Kempf and Nix starting and throwing 5 and 5 2/3 respectively to pick up victories for the Pointers.  On the other side, Oshkosh's main guy Jeremy Rubens saw 9 1/3 innings on the mound, as he came in relief to pick up a pair of victories.  Rubens went 5 1/3 innings in the opener in relief of Curt Hendricks and allowed 0 runs and only three hits.   In the nightcap, Rubens relieved Evan Matson and had a similar pitching line, except for giving up a pair of unearned runs in the 9th inning, thanks to a pair of errors by the Titan infield.  Rubens finishes the weekend appearing in three of the four games, pitching 10 2/3 innings, while giving up only one earned run, the HR to O'Donnell.  For his efforts, he picks up two wins and a save.

It appears the Titans bats woke up over the weekend as well, as they pounded out 55 hits in four games, with at least 12 hits in each game.  Freshman Nolan Fadness continues to impress, as he goes 12 x 22 out of the leadoff spot in the four game set.  Another thing worth mentioning is the starts that Oshkosh picked up from Perelwitz yesterday and Matson today.  They were able to give a thin staff 14 good innings.  I think both of these guys earned some more innings as the season progresses.

So what are everyone's predictions for the Point/Oshkosh DH on Wednesday as far as pitching match-ups go?  I have a funny feeling R. Demmin will start Game #1, with Rubens in relief if needed.  If Rubens doesn't throw Game #1, it would not surprise me to see him get the nod in Game #2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 14, 2008, 10:03:47 pm
One thing I forgot to mention earlier, was that Whitewater was down 14-3 in the 4th inning in Game #2 against Stout today, before scoring 14 runs in the bottom of the 4th and taking a 17-14 lead.  Stout scored 3 times in the 5th to tie it back up at 17, however Whitewater scored 2 in the bottom of the 5th and 1 in the 6th for the 20-17 victory.  Stout actually out homered the high powered Warhawks 5-3.

This game is a prime example of why all WIAC DH's should start at 12:00, instead of 1:00.  They would have had another hour to get in a few more innings and possibly play all nine innings, instead of just six.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 14, 2008, 10:06:08 pm
The WARHAWKS swept Stout today 9-7 and 20-17.  The second game was called after six innings were completed because of darkness.  No one was certain if it would count as a win when I left but the general consensus was that it would.  It was a bizarre game anyway so the fact that it ended with no one certain of what it meant was fitting.

Adam Dominick (5-1) picked up his fifth win by throwing eight solid innings surrendering 8 hits and 2 runs (1 earned) with 5 ks in game one.  Kevin Harves relieved him and struggled surrendering 4 runs after facing only 5 batters before freshman lefty Bryant Gansler came and though Stout scored off of him was able to retire the side and preserve the victory 9-7.  Kevin Zalnis led the 12 hit WARHAWK attack going 3x5 with a pair of RBI and Mike Kenseth also had a pair of RBI.  Ben Kuhlman and Thomas Corcoran each had a pair of hits.  WW was 6 for 6 stealing bases.

Game two was one of the stranger things I've seen in a while.  Stout's offense picked up where it left off in game one scoring 2 in the second and 7 (all after two out)  in the third before the WARHAWKS finally got on the scoreboard with 3 of their own in the bottom of the third.  Stout shook it off though and put 5 more on the board in their fourth at bat again scoring all 5 after two were out.  With Stout leading 14-3 I was about ready to call it a day.  After all I'm not a parent and obligated to stay when a game looks that ugly.  Fortunately I decided to give the WARHAWKS one more chance.  And did they take it and run.  Sending 17 batters to the plate they erupted for 14 runs on 7 hits including a three run home run by Jeff Donovan and a 2 run shot by Zalnis to take their first lead of the game 17-14.   But Stout wasn't finished as they responded with 3 runs in the top of the fifth to tie the game 17-17.   However the WARHAWKS got the lead back on an RBI single by Bret Adamson and padded it with an unearned run to go back up 19-17.   After getting the last two outs in the previous inning Mike Jacobson was able put Stout down 1,2,3 in their sixth inning and the WARHAWKS added the final run on an RBI single by Corcoran.   Four errors hurt WW as only 7 of Stout's 17 runs were earned.  They're a good hitting team and you just can't give them all those extra outs.

Aaron Dott started and was relieved by Kale Olson, who was relieved by Greg Reik, who was relieved by Greg Donovan before Jacobson came in to finish the final 1.2 innings and pick up his third win against one loss.  Jeff Donovan and Bret Adamson each went 3x4.  Donovan drove in 6 and scored 4 times while Adamson had a pair of RBI.  Corcoran, Zalnis and Ben Prather each had two hits and 2 RBI, 3 RBI, 2 RBI respectively.  

I doubt there was more than 10 minutes of daylight left when the umpires ruled the game over right around 7:30pm.  

Assuming the game two was a win the WARHAWKS improve to 8-2 in the WIAC and 17-4 on the season.  With a 3-11 conference record Stout will miss the tournament.  

Wednesday's double hitter with Carroll was cancelled by Carroll and has been replaced with a double hitter tomorrow vs Luther College in Decorah, Ia.  



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 15, 2008, 12:57:50 am
How did Whitewater score 20 runs and have only 4 LOB in Game 2? That is amazing. For contrast, Oshkosh had 11 LOB in both games today.

Some RBI Baseball stat lines in that one, too. Two guys combine to drive in 13 and one team scored 14 in an inning? Must have been an interesting one to watch.

I'm a bit concerned that UWO committed seven errors today. I guess it's nice to sweep a DH when you strand 22 runners and commit seven errors, but I thought the D was the Titans' best asset when I've seen them this year.

Can't wait for Wednesday's Point/Oshkosh DH, just to see what kind of patchwork pitching both teams come up with.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 09:54:42 am
To think that I almost missed it.  I probably never would have heard the end of that.  lol

The school record for runs in an inning is 16 (vs. Carroll).   That was the same game in which they set the school record for home runs in an inning with 6.  So far we've had a five consecutive home run inning and now a 14 run inning.  This team is interesting to watch because you really don't know what might happen next, good or bad.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 02:55:54 pm
Oshdude
I don't mean to be overly personal but I have to know if the avatar picture is actually you or is it some one else?    Sorry, I don't recognize it and it's been bugging me since you started using it. 



PS. The avatar I'm using is not me. :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 15, 2008, 05:24:15 pm
Oshdude
I don't mean to be overly personal but I have to know if the avatar picture is actually you or is it some one else?    Sorry, I don't recognize it and it's been bugging me since you started using it. 
PS. The avatar I'm using is not me. :D

Nah, I'm a college student.

The avatar is of the man from The Big Lebowski who played the part of "Smokey," whose pacifism cost him and his teammate, Gene, eight vital pins in a quarterfinal league bowling game. Though it must be said that Smokey is not a total pacifist, because he did report the incident to Fred of the Southern Cal Bowling League.

Walter and The Dude subsequently rolled their way into the finals as a result of Smokey's nonconfrontational demeanor in the quarterfinals and by defeating the pushovers Quintana (he can roll) and O'Brien (aka Seamus) in the semis. And they won despite Walter drawing a loaded weapon upon Smokey during league play. It's pretty durn'd interesting.

Musician Jimmie Dale Gilmore, my avatar, played Smokey. Thanks for asking. I abide.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 15, 2008, 05:30:15 pm
Oshdude
I don't mean to be overly personal but I have to know if the avatar picture is actually you or is it some one else?    Sorry, I don't recognize it and it's been bugging me since you started using it. 
PS. The avatar I'm using is not me. :D

Nah, I'm a college student.

The avatar is of the man from The Big Lebowski who played the part of "Smokey," whose pacifism cost him and his teammate, Gene, eight vital pins in a quarterfinal league bowling game. Though it must be said that Smokey is not a total pacifist, because he did report the incident to Fred of the Southern Cal Bowling League.

Walter and The Dude subsequently rolled their way into the finals as a result of Smokey's nonconfrontational demeanor in the quarterfinals and by defeating the pushovers Quintana (he can roll) and O'Brien (aka Seamus) in the semis. And they won despite Walter drawing a loaded weapon upon Smokey during league play. It's pretty durn'd interesting.

Musician Jimmie Dale Gilmore, my avatar, played Smokey. Thanks for asking. I abide.

Its too bad about Donny....Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 15, 2008, 05:36:27 pm
Oshdude
I don't mean to be overly personal but I have to know if the avatar picture is actually you or is it some one else?    Sorry, I don't recognize it and it's been bugging me since you started using it. 
PS. The avatar I'm using is not me. :D

Nah, I'm a college student.

The avatar is of the man from The Big Lebowski who played the part of "Smokey," whose pacifism cost him and his teammate, Gene, eight vital pins in a quarterfinal league bowling game. Though it must be said that Smokey is not a total pacifist, because he did report the incident to Fred of the Southern Cal Bowling League.

Walter and The Dude subsequently rolled their way into the finals as a result of Smokey's nonconfrontational demeanor in the quarterfinals and by defeating the pushovers Quintana (he can roll) and O'Brien (aka Seamus) in the semis. And they won despite Walter drawing a loaded weapon upon Smokey during league play. It's pretty durn'd interesting.

Musician Jimmie Dale Gilmore, my avatar, played Smokey. Thanks for asking. I abide.

Its too bad about Donny....Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling.
Ah, another Achiever. And a good day to you, sir!

That was a moving eulogy until Walter turned yet another seemingly benign act into a travesty.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 07:04:45 pm
Thanks, Oshdude.  I've got a business associate who thinks "The Big Lebrowski" is one of the best movies ever made.  He owns a copy and has watched it enough to know much of the dialogue by memory.  Surprisingly he seems to have a life as well. :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2008, 08:55:58 pm
WARHAWKS win a pair of close ones in nonconference play beating Loras 5-4 in 11 innings and 7-5 in 7 at Decorah.  No details were available.  19-4 on the season to date.

These games were hastily scheduled this week when Carroll had to cancel tomorrow's doublehitter to play a make up pair with Ripon.   If only it were that simple in football or basketball.  ;)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 15, 2008, 10:44:49 pm
Boxes are up on WW site.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on April 16, 2008, 09:57:10 am
I witnessed the Whitewater v Stout game 2 also.  The umpire squeezed down the strike zone after the 1st inning to about the range of a pitching machine consistancy.  The WW pitcher was chased out after 2 2/3.  The Stout pitcher lasted until the 4th and couldn't make quality pitches anymore.
The umpire didn't give anything on the outside or the corners.  It actually got tighter if the hitter was behind in the count.  The hitters figured it out that the pitchers had to throw it threw a hoop 3 times because  Blue wasn't giving any strike calls.  He was consistent, but it was obvously too tight a zone for college.  Batters sat on pitches to crush in their zone despite the counts.  Stout coach, Walters, got tossed in the 5th arguing over the strikezone.

There were a couple of pitchers (10 total) who throw well and none of them had any success until the end of the game when umpire went back to a fairer zone.  the score was ridiculous by than and he just wanted to get it er done.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2008, 10:10:42 am
WHITEWATER was leading comfortably 4-1 in the ninth and starter Steve Hedgepath, though he'd surrendered 10 hits,  had held Luther in check.  However he was replaced by Jason Hooper and Luther rallied scoring 3 runs on 4 hits and a WW error and left the bases loaded before Joe Munn put a stop to it.  The play went into the eleventh when Ben Prather led off with a double, was advanced to third on a fly ball and scored on a sacrifice fly by Matt Millar.  Luther got a runner on base but Munn got a strikeout and a groundout to end the game the winner.  Prather led the offense going 3x5 with 1 RS and 1 RBI.  Ben Kuhlmann went 2x5 with an RBI and Kevin Zalnis added an RBI.   The defense was sloppy again committing 4 errors.  We've got get better with our gloves.

Mike Jacobson went the distance (7 inn) in game two surrendering 5 runs (4 ER) on 5 hits striking out 6 and walking a pair.   Luther jumped on top early scoring all 5 of their runs in the second inning on three hits, highlighted by a bases loaded triple, a walk and an error.  The WARHAWKS answered with a run in the third with the help of two Luther errors, another run in the fourth on two hits and five more in the fifth on 3 hits including Joe Munn's bases loaded double which drove in 3.   After the rough second inning Jacobson was sharp allowing only 2 hits and facing 17 hitters in the final 5 innings.  The offense was led by Munn who started in right field and went 2x4 with 3 RBI and a RS.  Sam Petrasko was 2x3 with an RBI and RS and Mike Kenseth added a pair of hits in 4 AB with an RBI and RS.   Only one error this game, much better.  

It was a hastely arranged affair and immediately following the physically draining pair with Stout and a 5 hour bus ride however it looks like a lot the back ups saw action and we came out on top twice.    Which obviously is a lot better than not playing at all.  

What are the conditions in Superior?  Did the snow melt off the field (or get removed) so there's a chance it will be playable?    


for2njohn, I agree with your assessment.   From my view I couldn't see if he was squeezing the corners but I could see that you had to throw the ball at the top of the knee or above if you wanted a strike called.   Dott, the starter, couldn't get a call down there to save his soul and theWARHAWK pitchers couldn't get ahead in the count.  Time after time they were down 2-0, 3-1 etc.  Stout can hit the hell out of the ball especially at the top of their lineup and if you have to keep grooving pitches they'll do what they did.    I also agree that the plate umpire was consistant and overall I thought the games were officiated pretty decently.




 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: for2n8john on April 16, 2008, 10:51:24 am
The games were taped for TV.  It probably won't be televised.

It was consistent, but not "good" (fair) behind the plate.  I didn't like the WW Coach showing Blue up in the 1st game with his poor explanation of why he called a balk.   Volendich attempted to make a public debate about it.  That set the mood for game 2 when Blue moved behind the plate.

Stout showed they have as good an offensive club that can hit mistakes.  Do you have an opinion on the Stout starter?  - 3 runs allowed, but 6k's with that strikezone (Stine 2k's).

Also, WW beat Luther, not Loras.   Loras is in Dubuque.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2008, 12:45:22 pm
That's the second time in the recent past that I've confused Luther with Loras.  It appears to be one of those things I may never get straight though I did get right in the second post on the games.  duh

I was a little surprised they replaced the starter when they did.  He wasn't throwing that badly, had kept us relatively in check and had an 11 run lead.   I think it helped us getting him off the mound and seeing the string of relievers that we did.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 16, 2008, 03:24:07 pm
WHITEWATER was leading comfortably 4-1 in the ninth and starter Steve Hedgepath, though he'd surrendered 10 hits,  had held Luther in check.  However he was replaced by Jason Hooper and Luther rallied scoring 3 runs on 4 hits and a WW error and left the bases loaded before Joe Munn put a stop to it.  The play went into the eleventh when Ben Prather led off with a double, was advanced to third on a fly ball and scored on a sacrifice fly by Matt Millar.  Luther got a runner on base but Munn got a strikeout and a groundout to end the game the winner.  Prather led the offense going 3x5 with 1 RS and 1 RBI.  Ben Kuhlmann went 2x5 with an RBI and Kevin Zalnis added an RBI.   The defense was sloppy again committing 4 errors.  We've got get better with our gloves.

Mike Jacobson went the distance (7 inn) in game two surrendering 5 runs (4 ER) on 5 hits striking out 6 and walking a pair.   Luther jumped on top early scoring all 5 of their runs in the second inning on three hits, highlighted by a bases loaded triple, a walk and an error.  The WARHAWKS answered with a run in the third with the help of two Luther errors, another run in the fourth on two hits and five more in the fifth on 3 hits including Joe Munn's bases loaded double which drove in 3.   After the rough second inning Jacobson was sharp allowing only 2 hits and facing 17 hitters in the final 5 innings.  The offense was led by Munn who started in right field and went 2x4 with 3 RBI and a RS.  Sam Petrasko was 2x3 with an RBI and RS and Mike Kenseth added a pair of hits in 4 AB with an RBI and RS.   Only one error this game, much better. 

It was a hastely arranged affair and immediately following the physically draining pair with Stout and a 5 hour bus ride however it looks like a lot the back ups saw action and we came out on top twice.    Which obviously is a lot better than not playing at all. 

What are the conditions in Superior?  Did the snow melt off the field (or get removed) so there's a chance it will be playable?   


for2njohn, I agree with your assessment.   From my view I couldn't see if he was squeezing the corners but I could see that you had to throw the ball at the top of the knee or above if you wanted a strike called.   Dott, the starter, couldn't get a call down there to save his soul and theWARHAWK pitchers couldn't get ahead in the count.  Time after time they were down 2-0, 3-1 etc.  Stout can hit the hell out of the ball especially at the top of their lineup and if you have to keep grooving pitches they'll do what they did.    I also agree that the plate umpire was consistant and overall I thought the games were officiated pretty decently.


its pretty warm here today and it was yesterday too, like 60'-70's so the games should be good to go this weekend.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 16, 2008, 08:33:56 pm
Defense, defense, defense. Oshkosh picked it, Point didn't. Oshkosh sweeps Point. Simple as that, in both games, but more evident in the opener.

Every UWO player had at least one great defensive play today. 3B Brock Wetenkamp, SS Derek Leighton and LF Pete Berg all had Webjem-quality plays today. RF Jason Fosler showed off his hose and 1B Brad Demmin and 2B Kyle Kannenberg were walls on the right side. It's an easy game when you can make the routine plays and then throw in spectacular plays.

UWO frosh pitchers Ryan Kuepper and Anthony Leaman gave the Titans HUGE innings. The UWO pitching depth held up better than the Point depth in Game 2, which had a one-sided home run derby feel to it for a while. But Oshkosh answered every crooked number, and put away Point late in Game 2.

One team made mistakes. The other team didn't make mistakes and capitalized on the opportunities it was given. EDIT: There were two UWO errors by the scorekeeper, apparently. The only UWO error committed on the field was with the bases empty and two outs late in the game. The other two were hits in my book.

Brad Demmin hit a grand slam to help cancel out the dinger binge Point went on in the middle innings of Game 2.

If Oshkosh plays like that the rest of the year, heads up Midwest Region. That's a big "if," but Oshkosh played some awesome ball today.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 16, 2008, 08:48:24 pm
For the curious the scores were 3-2, 14-10.  ;)
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Post by: OshDude on April 16, 2008, 08:54:48 pm
For the curious the scores were 3-2, 14-10.  ;)
Formalities ... who woulda thunk that people care about scores? I mean, "oops." Thanks for having my back.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 16, 2008, 10:00:30 pm
Platteville committed six errors, gave up nine unearned runs and not surprisingly lost to Edgewood College 10-4.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2008, 11:46:27 pm
EDIT: There were two UWO errors by the scorekeeper, apparently. The only UWO error committed on the field was with the bases empty and two outs late in the game. The other two were hits in my book.
I would say that UWO made two errors in game two, one by Wetenkamp (throw that pulled Demmin off of the base) and the other by Leighton (high chopper that he botched-wasn't an "easy" play, however if he doesn't take a step back, I think he gets a better hop and is able to make the play.) 

The slow roller that Scheidler hit to Wetekamp that they gave an error I would agree was the wrong call.  Even if the throw wasn't in the dirt, Scheidler had it beat out....

Other than that, if this DH was at Point, I'm going to say that they don't get five innings in in Game #2.  Point hit some balls well that were caught on the track that would have been HR's in Point.  Thankfully, Tiedemann is an actual baseball field where a routine fly ball isn't a home run.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 16, 2008, 11:47:47 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/16)
Whitewater 8-2
Oshkosh 11-3
Stevens Point 7-3
Platteville 5-5
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-9
Stout 3-11
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 17, 2008, 12:09:05 am
Defense, defense, defense. Oshkosh picked it, Point didn't. Oshkosh sweeps Point. Simple as that, in both games, but more evident in the opener.

Every UWO player had at least one great defensive play today. 3B Brock Wetenkamp, SS Derek Leighton and LF Pete Berg all had Webjem-quality plays today. RF Jason Fosler showed off his hose and 1B Brad Demmin and 2B Kyle Kannenberg were walls on the right side. It's an easy game when you can make the routine plays and then throw in spectacular plays.

UWO frosh pitchers Ryan Kuepper and Anthony Leaman gave the Titans HUGE innings. The UWO pitching depth held up better than the Point depth in Game 2, which had a one-sided home run derby feel to it for a while. But Oshkosh answered every crooked number, and put away Point late in Game 2.

One team made mistakes. The other team didn't make mistakes and capitalized on the opportunities it was given. EDIT: There were two UWO errors by the scorekeeper, apparently. The only UWO error committed on the field was with the bases empty and two outs late in the game. The other two were hits in my book.

Brad Demmin hit a grand slam to help cancel out the dinger binge Point went on in the middle innings of Game 2.

If Oshkosh plays like that the rest of the year, heads up Midwest Region. That's a big "if," but Oshkosh played some awesome ball today.
Props to Oshkosh today. They were the better team on the field. Have to be surprised though by the number of homeruns hit out today. Very impressed with the Oshkosh pitching, see where they are at coming into the tournament though.  And not so sure things would have played out differently if the games were played in Point. That was a wicked wind blowing today, if it was like that at Point, I don't think there would have been more homeruns. Be happy with the wins today, chances are you will see Kempf and Nix next week. Maybe the outcome will be different(maybe not, but that's why you play the games).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 19, 2008, 09:07:02 pm
Oshkosh was not sharp today. The little things got away from them at times, but two wins are two wins (11-7, 8-7). Titans seemed to be cruising in both games, but luckily they had just enough in the bank to get by.

Curt Hendricks bailed himself out with the double play ball in Game 2. Hendricks was all over the place but effective. And Ryan Demmin gave up some big hits.

Overall, some chinks in the UWO armor, and both games ended just in time. Another inning or two and Stout maybe steals one or both. Speaking of, if UWO plays like that tomorrow, Stout will win one.

As you can tell by the boxscores, Stout used eight pitchers, one each inning, in both games. Interesting strategy, especially in the early innings when Stout starts a LHP to face UWO's 1-4, who all hit LH. The bottom five for UWO hit RH (except Waupoose in Game 2). Besides that, I think that's a good way to get through 36 innings against a ranked team, when you don't have a bonafide stud-type guy to go through a lineup a few times. All Stout pitchers should be able to throw another 1 or 2 IP tomorrow.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 19, 2008, 09:29:26 pm
Oshkosh was not sharp today. The little things got away from them at times, but two wins are two wins (11-7, 8-7). Titans seemed to be cruising in both games, but luckily they had just enough in the bank to get by.

Curt Hendricks bailed himself out with the double play ball in Game 2. Hendricks was all over the place but effective. And Ryan Demmin gave up some big hits.

Overall, some chinks in the UWO armor, and both games ended just in time. Another inning or two and Stout maybe steals one or both. Speaking of, if UWO plays like that tomorrow, Stout will win one.

As you can tell by the boxscores, Stout used eight pitchers, one each inning, in both games. Interesting strategy, especially in the early innings when Stout starts a LHP to face UWO's 1-4, who all hit LH. The bottom five for UWO hit RH (except Waupoose in Game 2). Besides that, I think that's a good way to get through 36 innings against a ranked team, when you don't have a bonafide stud-type guy to go through a lineup a few times. All Stout pitchers should be able to throw another 1 or 2 IP tomorrow.

Interesting strategy but did not seem to work if they gave up 19 runs in 2 games. At least they can come back and pitch tomorrow
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 19, 2008, 09:36:22 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/19)
Oshkosh 13-3
Whitewater 8-2
Stevens Point 7-3
Platteville 5-5
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-9
Stout 3-13

Platteville/Point and Whitewater/Superior were both postponed and rescheduled for Monday April 21st.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2008, 08:35:51 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/20)
Oshkosh 15-3
Whitewater 9-2
Stevens Point 9-3
Platteville 5-7
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-10
Stout 3-15
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 20, 2008, 09:20:42 pm
Oshkosh sweeps Stout today, by scores of 14-2 and 9-5.  Junior Greg Perelwitz throws a CG in Game #1 giving up just two runs on six hits, while striking out nine.  Both Nolan Fadness and Brad Demmin connect for three-run HR's to pace the Titan offense.  Interstingly, UWO's seventh, eighth, and ninth place hitters combine to go 8-11 in Game #1.  After scoring seven runs in the 2nd to take a 7-1 lead, UWO crusies to the victory.  In Game #2, UWO scores five runs in the bottom of the seventh inning, with the big blows being a Brad Demmin solo HR and a Blake Berger three-run HR to turn a 5-4 deficit into 9-5 lead.  Jeremy Rubens comes in in the 6th inning and gives up just two hits in four innings to improve to 6-1 on the season. 

With neither Ryan Demmin or Rubens starting over the weekend, (although Demmin did throw 6 1/3 in relief) it looks like UWO will have both available to start on Wednesday at Point if needed.

Point sweeps Platteville today 6-3 and 13-0 in seven innings.  In the opener, Point scores three runs on the bottom of the 8th for the victory, with Brad Frank providing the key shot, a two run HR to give the Pointers a 5-3 lead.  In the nightcap it was all Pointers early and often (13-0 after three innings) which allowed the Pointers to pull Garrett Nix after just three innings.  I noticed he was still credited with the win, which must be a judgment call by the official scorer.  You can pretty much bank on Nix starting one of the two games against Oshkosh on Wednesday after the light work load today.  Kempf threw six innings in Game #1, so I would think he would be unavailable on Wednesday, except maybe in relief in the right situation.

Whitewater beats Superior 13-0 in seven innings, as Adam Dominick (5 IP) and Steve Hedgepath (2 IP) combine to no-hit the Yellow Jackets.  The teams are scheduled to play a tripleheader at the Metrodome tomorrow, starting at 1:00.  If memory serves correct, there was a triple-header a few years back, but for the life of me I can't remember the teams that were involved.  I'm curious to see if the they will be playing three seven inning games, or three nine inning games tomorrow.  I guess if they go like today, it doesn't really matter, as they will all be seven inning games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 20, 2008, 09:29:23 pm
Adam Dominick and Steve Hedgepath combined to no hit Superior and the offense settled the manner early with 7 hits and 6 runs in the first inning as the WARHAWKS won 13-0.  Dominick went 5 innings striking out 9 and Hedgepath struck out 2 in the last two innings.   The two combined to face only 22 batters.  Ben Prather went 3x4, had 3 RS and an RBI.   Jordan Stine was 2x5 with 3 RBI and Joe Munn went 2x3 with 4 RBI.  Billy Johnson, Mike Kenseth and Ben Kuhlmann all had two hits apiece.  

Game two was a victim of rain and the two teams will play 3 games tomorrow in the MetroDome.   That should be interesting.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 22, 2008, 12:12:55 am
Oshkosh sweeps Stout today, by scores of 14-2 and 9-5.  Junior Greg Perelwitz throws a CG in Game #1 giving up just two runs on six hits, while striking out nine.  Both Nolan Fadness and Brad Demmin connect for three-run HR's to pace the Titan offense.  Interstingly, UWO's seventh, eighth, and ninth place hitters combine to go 8-11 in Game #1.  After scoring seven runs in the 2nd to take a 7-1 lead, UWO crusies to the victory.  In Game #2, UWO scores five runs in the bottom of the seventh inning, with the big blows being a Brad Demmin solo HR and a Blake Berger three-run HR to turn a 5-4 deficit into 9-5 lead.  Jeremy Rubens comes in in the 6th inning and gives up just two hits in four innings to improve to 6-1 on the season. 

With neither Ryan Demmin or Rubens starting over the weekend, (although Demmin did throw 6 1/3 in relief) it looks like UWO will have both available to start on Wednesday at Point if needed.

Point sweeps Platteville today 6-3 and 13-0 in seven innings.  In the opener, Point scores three runs on the bottom of the 8th for the victory, with Brad Frank providing the key shot, a two run HR to give the Pointers a 5-3 lead.  In the nightcap it was all Pointers early and often (13-0 after three innings) which allowed the Pointers to pull Garrett Nix after just three innings.  I noticed he was still credited with the win, which must be a judgment call by the official scorer.  You can pretty much bank on Nix starting one of the two games against Oshkosh on Wednesday after the light work load today.  Kempf threw six innings in Game #1, so I would think he would be unavailable on Wednesday, except maybe in relief in the right situation.

Whitewater beats Superior 13-0 in seven innings, as Adam Dominick (5 IP) and Steve Hedgepath (2 IP) combine to no-hit the Yellow Jackets.  The teams are scheduled to play a tripleheader at the Metrodome tomorrow, starting at 1:00.  If memory serves correct, there was a triple-header a few years back, but for the life of me I can't remember the teams that were involved.  I'm curious to see if the they will be playing three seven inning games, or three nine inning games tomorrow.  I guess if they go like today, it doesn't really matter, as they will all be seven inning games.
Point and Platteville played a tripleheader last year-Point won all three games.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2008, 08:50:40 am
WIAC Standings (Through 4/21)
Whitewater 12-2
Oshkosh 15-3
Stevens Point 11-3
Platteville 5-9
La Crosse 5-9
Superior 3-13
Stout 3-15

BIG showdown on Wednesday, as Point travels to Oshkosh for a DH.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2008, 11:29:22 am
A split would be nice.  :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 22, 2008, 01:27:17 pm
A Titan sweep would be better.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 22, 2008, 03:04:49 pm
Getting two games in would be best. It's been raining off and on all day in Oshkosh. Supposed to be mostly sunny tomorrow, though. And Tiedemann Field drains well. Should see the best pitchers from both teams. They all should be fairly rested (as far as WIAC P's can be rested this time of year) except UWO's Greg Perlewitz and maybe Curt Hendricks.

Garrett Nix/Travis Kempf vs. Ryan Demmin, Game 1?
Nix/Kempf vs. ____, Game 2? Does Rubens get a start? Leaman? Committee of the guys who threw last weekend?

Sun plus both teams' aces? Sounds like a recipe for skipping classes.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 22, 2008, 04:39:05 pm
This is somewhat hard to believe given the slugfests the Warhawks have been in this year but they currently rank 10th in the country in team ERA

You can search here...

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings?sportCode=MBA&rpt=wkly
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 22, 2008, 06:37:40 pm
This is somewhat hard to believe given the slugfests the Warhawks have been in this year but they currently rank 10th in the country in team ERA

You can search here...

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings?sportCode=MBA&rpt=wkly

Yea thats pretty good, appears that team ERAs are not as low as years past across the nation.

Just had too look at for myself and most of their games are pretty low scoring except for one anomaly against Stout when they gave up 17 runs only 7 earned even though it appeared that it should of been 11 earned because of a mistake by the score keeper in marking 4 runs as unearned but oh well it happens a lot im sure.

Surprised to not see more midwest teams ranked, only CSS at 19 is, which is not surprising for a team that is usually the best in the nation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 22, 2008, 09:36:51 pm
The WARHAWKS finished the series with Superior by winning all three games of the rare triple hitter on Monday, 3-1, 5-4 (8 innings) and 6-2.  The pitching staff surrendered a total of 13 hits in the four game series.  Aaron Dott went the distance in the first game striking out 9.  Randy Johnson struggled again in the second game but Reik, Olson and Jacobson relieved and the WARHAWKS rallied from two down to tie the game in the seventh on Ben Kuhlmann's  2 out 2 RBI double and then pushed the winning run across in the eighth on three consecutive singles.  Joe Munn and Jason Hooper no hit Superior for six innings and the WARHAWKS led 6-0 before Superior put a pair on the board on two hits in their last at bat in the final. 

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 22, 2008, 09:58:15 pm
Getting two games in would be best.
That won't be a problem at all.....  I would be willing to bet Coach Lechnir had the guys put the tarp on after practice last night, since rain was already predicted for today.  They probably took it off before practice this afternoon, and more than likely, most of the rain will have soaked into the outfield before tomorrow rolls around.

Garrett Nix/Travis Kempf vs. Ryan Demmin, Game 1?
Nix/Kempf vs. ____, Game 2? Does Rubens get a start? Leaman? Committee of the guys who threw last weekend?
My guess, Nix vs Demmin in Game #1, with Rubens in relief if it is a close game.  Game #2, Kempf vs Matson??, unless Rubens doesn't throw in Game #1, which then he would probably get the start.

I would doubt that Hendricks sees the mound on three days rest, considering he is coming off of Tommy John surgery.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 11:11:47 am
Even if Rubens throws a few innings in Game 1, I could see him starting Game 2, especially if Oshkosh loses Game 1. UWO doesn't need its top guys for a while after today. I doubt even Curt Hendricks throws against Carroll and maybe Marian, depending on how today goes. If you somehow get two against Point, I assume it's better to get your top innings guys some rest rather than use them against Marian. Don't get me wrong. Marian is good, but I don't see the benefit in going with your top three guys against them when everything after Marian is what's important.

With any luck, the young guys can get UWO through Carroll and Marian, setting up the staff nicely for Platteville and beyond.

On a side note, good call by Lechnir scheduling 36 (probably completing 35) games. It doesn't matter what team the other four would be against, this UWO staff doesn't need another 36 innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 23, 2008, 01:04:58 pm
Lecnir will ride Ruebens as long as he can, he is on a good amount of rest right now. He knows that today the conference is on the line.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on April 23, 2008, 01:49:17 pm
Are the Point v Oshkosh games on the radio anywhere that can be streamed on the web?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 02:39:12 pm
Oshkosh 3
Point 0        Bottom 2nd

Demmin vs Nix is the pitching match-up.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 03:30:04 pm
Point 5
Oshkosh 3     Top 4th
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 03:43:34 pm
Point 11
Oshkosh 4     5th Inning

All 11 runs off of Demmin.....  Anthony Leaman now pitching for UWO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 04:46:31 pm
Point 15
Oshkosh 4     FINAL (7 Inn.)

Would guess you'll see Kempf vs Rubens in the nightcap......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on April 23, 2008, 04:53:07 pm
Thanks for the updates cubs!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 23, 2008, 05:04:21 pm
Point 15
Oshkosh 4     FINAL (7 Inn.)

Would guess you'll see Kempf vs Rubens in the nightcap......
Did UWO kick it around or is STP just on fire with the bats.
I would NOT want to be in the dugout or postgame right now--Lechnir is going to have a few things to say.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 08:16:32 pm
Little bit of everything today in Oshkosh. Some good/not-so-good pitching, some good hitting, some good/bad fielding and a not-so-good bench-clearing skirmish. And on such a beautiful day, too ... ;). Can't we all just be friends?

Anyway, final of Game 2 was Oshkosh 11, Point 2 4, if you missed it. Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp, Mike Thrun and Ben Warwick all ejected in Game 2. I'll let someone else describe what led to the benches clearing because I'm pretty biased on this one.

EDIT: Oh, and Jeremy Rubens went the whole way. Dude's pretty darn good.
And Kempf didn't throw in Game 2, but he did hold down a big lead for a couple in Game 1. Really surprised to see him be a nonfactor today. Didn't see a reason why he came in in the first game, and to start Thrun in Game 2, when UWO just beat him a few days ago, didn't make a lot of sense to me. Then again, I don't get paid to coach.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 08:20:40 pm
Point 15
Oshkosh 4     FINAL (7 Inn.)

Would guess you'll see Kempf vs Rubens in the nightcap......
Did UWO kick it around or is STP just on fire with the bats.
I would NOT want to be in the dugout or postgame right now--Lechnir is going to have a few things to say.
The latter on that one. Ryan Demmin just couldn't get off the field after two outs. Some smashes off of him, and Doug Coe was a beast in Game 1.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 08:45:20 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/23)
Whitewater 14-2
Oshkosh 16-4
Stevens Point 12-4
La Crosse 7-9
Platteville 5-11
Superior 3-13
Stout 3-17
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 23, 2008, 09:39:44 pm
The WARHAWKS pounded out 33 hits and beat Platteville in two seven inning games 14-2, 15-2.

Adam Dominick went 6.1 innings in the first game allowing 2 runs on 3 hits and 2 walks while striking out 9.  He was relieved by Steve Hedgepath who struck out both hitters he faced.  The game was 4-0 after 5 innings but the WARHAWKS scored 5 runs in the sixth and another 6 in the seventh to end the game early.  Jordan Stine homered and finished 4x5 with 5 RBI.  Ben Prather had a pair of hits and drove in 4 runs.

Mike Jacobson also went 6.1 innings in game two.  He allowed 2 runs on 5 hits, a pair of walks and struck out 5.  Kale Olson relieved Jacobson and retired both hitters he faced.  Jeff Donovan was 4x5 with 5 RBI.  Tom Corcoran and Kevin Zalnis both homered and had a pair of hits.  Corcoran drove in 4 and Zalnis 3. 

It was a good day to be a WARHAWK fan. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 09:45:59 pm
Just some thoughts running through my head....

-If Whitewater goes 7-1 over their last eight games (4 at La Crosse, 4 vs Point) they will have definitely earned the Conference title.

-Oshkosh may be lucky that they have 4 non-conference games coming up if there are any suspensions follwoing today's brawl.  If players have to sit, it wouldn't be a WIAC game if they act quick enough.

-Point has to finish with 8 games on the road (4 at Stout , 4 at Whitewater.)  If they sweep Stout, they will need to take 3 out of 4 at Whitewater (assuming Whitewater takes all four from La Crosse) and hope Platteville can get at least one from Oshkosh if they want any part of a WIAC Championship.

-Superior is going to have A LOT to say about who gets the #4 spot, having four games left against both Platteville and La Crosse, ALL at Superior.  Superior will need to take 3 out of four in both series if they want to have any chance of being the fourth team in the WIAC tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gashouse_Gang on April 23, 2008, 10:29:53 pm
So who is going to break the silence regarding the bench clearing brawl in the UWO/UWSP game?

I realize some of you may be bias, but let's hear your side.

WHAT HAPPENED?!?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 23, 2008, 10:30:46 pm
Little bit of everything today in Oshkosh. Some good/not-so-good pitching, some good hitting, some good/bad fielding and a not-so-good bench-clearing skirmish. And on such a beautiful day, too ... ;). Can't we all just be friends?

Anyway, final of Game 2 was Oshkosh 11, Point 2 4, if you missed it. Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp, Mike Thrun and Ben Warwick all ejected in Game 2. I'll let someone else describe what led to the benches clearing because I'm pretty biased on this one.

EDIT: Oh, and Jeremy Rubens went the whole way. Dude's pretty darn good.
And Kempf didn't throw in Game 2, but he did hold down a big lead for a couple in Game 1. Really surprised to see him be a nonfactor today. Didn't see a reason why he came in in the first game, and to start Thrun in Game 2, when UWO just beat him a few days ago, didn't make a lot of sense to me. Then again, I don't get paid to coach.


I agree time to share it with everyone!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 10:31:51 pm
-Oshkosh may be lucky that they have 4 non-conference games coming up if there are any suspensions follwoing today's brawl.  If players have to sit, it wouldn't be a WIAC game if they act quick enough.
Is that the rule for sure? It's the next game and not the next WIAC game? Would be great for Oshkosh, if that's the case.

Something tells me there may be either more suspensions doled out or the expected ones modified in some way. There were a few TV cameras there, and I'm fairly certain both sides didn't feel justice was served today. I think some tapes will be sent to the commissioner's office for review. I have no inside info. Just a strong hunch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 23, 2008, 10:37:27 pm
I'm fairly certain both sides didn't feel justice was served today.
Interesting to see former UWO player Sam Spurney get plunked to lead off the 9th inning in an 11-2 game....  I'm sure it wasn't intentional though..... ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 23, 2008, 11:00:14 pm
So this is what I found in the NCAA rule book on fighting, but not sure what happened. Page 63-65

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2007/2007_baseball_rules.pdf 


Not sure if this applies to D3 but would assume so. That means it would be a 3 game suspension if there were punches thrown and what not
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 23, 2008, 11:00:38 pm
OK, but this is one person's view. I'd appreciate a Point fan's take.

Bottom of the 5th, 2 outs, Brad Demmin on first, Nolan Fadness on third.
Zielke enters the game and does the old "fake to third, wheel to first."
Demmin gets in a rundown. Fadness dashes toward home.
Fadness is meat – out by five feet.
Fadness makes a late, hard slide into Ben Warwick Garrett Bloom. Nolan really got in on him and added a little forearm into the mix.
Warwick Bloom holds on and rolls backwards toward his dugout, Fadness splayed across the plate.
Three outs and the ump looked like he immediately ejected Fadness. He made an emphatic out sign and then a really emphatic gesture with his arm to indicate the ejection, all in one motion.
Before Warwick Bloom or Fadness can even get up, three Pointers (I don't know which for sure) are on top of the play. I mean they bolted.
A little jawing for 10 seconds, and then UWO comes out and the rest of the Pointers.
Then there's too much going on to give a detailed account.
I know one UWO player was giving a Pointer the business in one fight. Vice versa in another. It doesn't really matter who they were, but the tape and probable subsequent suspensions will let you know.
By this time there's the usual taunts among fans and players.
Fadness and Wetenkamp ran out to their positions to start the sixth, but the umps called them back and they went downstairs for the night.
Thrun and Warwick chirped their way to the team bus about a quarter mile from the Pointer dugout and through the UWO crowd.
Bloom, Lechnir, the umps and UWO AD Al Ackerman had a meet-and-greet behind the plate. The UWO contingent didn't seem too pleased with the result of that conversation.

In sum, it was a good, hard slide IMO. It is how that play should go down. Was there a little shiver in there? Yes. It's a baseball play. It may not have been pretty or graceful, but I've seen worse at second on double plays.

Both teams were issued warnings, and there was no funny stuff after that. Unless you count the UWO guys who came in for the ejected players clutching up and helping put the game away as funny stuff. Personally, I did. But a Pointer fan probably wouldn't find that too hilarious. There was a HBP in the ninth, but I don't think there was anything to it. The umps didn't do anything about it, anyway. And it just grazed the Point batter who may or may not have been a former UWO player ... But like I wrote, there was nothing to it IMO.

So that's my least biased way of telling what happened. That's basically the facts with a pinch of opinion. Again, I'd like a Pointer fan's view on it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 12:37:20 am
OK, but this is one person's view. I'd appreciate a Point fan's take.

Bottom of the 5th, 2 outs, Brad Demmin on first, Nolan Fadness on third.
Zielke enters the game and does the old "fake to third, wheel to first."
Demmin gets in a rundown. Fadness dashes toward home.
Fadness is meat – out by five feet.
Fadness makes a late, hard slide into Ben Warwick. Nolan really got in on him and added a little forearm into the mix.
Warwick holds on and rolls backwards toward his dugout, Fadness splayed across the plate.
Three outs and the ump looked like he immediately ejected Fadness. He made an emphatic out sign and then a really emphatic gesture with his arm to indicate the ejection, all in one motion.
Before Warwick or Fadness can even get up, three Pointers (I don't know which for sure) are on top of the play. I mean they bolted.
A little jawing for 10 seconds, and then UWO comes out and the rest of the Pointers.
Then there's too much going on to give a detailed account.
I know one UWO player was giving a Pointer the business in one fight. Vice versa in another. It doesn't really matter who they were, but the tape and probable subsequent suspensions will let you know.
By this time there's the usual taunts among fans and players.
Fadness and Wetenkamp ran out to their positions to start the sixth, but the umps called them back and they went downstairs for the night.
Thrun and Warwick chirped their way to the team bus about a quarter mile from the Pointer dugout and through the UWO crowd.
Bloom, Lechnir, the umps and UWO AD Al Ackerman had a meet-and-greet behind the plate. The UWO contingent didn't seem too pleased with the result of that conversation.

In sum, it was a good, hard slide IMO. It is how that play should go down. Was there a little shiver in there? Yes. It's a baseball play. It may not have been pretty or graceful, but I've seen worse at second on double plays.

Both teams were issued warnings, and there was no funny stuff after that. Unless you count the UWO guys who came in for the ejected players clutching up and helping put the game away funny stuff. Personally, I did. But a Pointer fan probably wouldn't find that too hilarious. There was a HBP in the ninth, but I don't think there was anything to it. The umps didn't do anything about it, anyway. And it just grazed the Point batter who may or may not have been a former UWO player ... But like I wrote, there was nothing to it IMO.

So that's my least biased way of telling what happened. That's basically the facts with a pinch of opinion. Again, I'd like a Pointer fan's view on it.
[/quote) The catcher was Garrett Bloom,, not Ben Warwick. The play at the plate was not typical hard slide, Fadness did his best to take out Bloom. Honestly can't say who came out of the dugout first,  but there were enough punches thrown either way. Saw someone try to put Bloom through the fence. Umpire was correct in throwing Fadness out.
And seeing as Point knows what its like to lose a player for an entire year(Coe last year, same type of play), the Pointer fans had every right to be upset. And I would imagine if Point had tried that to your catcher, you would be calling us totally classless. Apparently this goes back to last week-something between Thrun and Fadness.
You would have thought that would have turned the momentum in Point's favor, but it didn't. Ruebens is definetly the real deal. But I will say your fans were much worse then the Pointer fans.
As to why Thrun started the 2nd game, your guess is as good as mine. Rumor was Zielke was to start game 2, then the coach changed his mind. One thing is for sure, we will play each other again in a couple of weeks at the WIAC tournament. Good luck with the remainder of your season and see you at the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 24, 2008, 01:00:50 am
Right on. Thanks for the catcher correction. And thanks for your take on how things went down. Greatly appreciated.

And you're right ... this is just another chapter. Can't wait for round 3, if you'll pardon the pun.

Anything in particular with the fans or just an overall perception? Hope it wasn't too bad. Things got a bit heated on and off the field for those 10 minutes or so.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 09:59:18 am
Following the Oshkosh/WARHAWK brawl a few years ago both head coaches were suspended for a game and Doug Henry, our pitching coach, was suspended for three games if I remember correctly.  I don't recall any players being suspended.  Henry had struck the Oshkosh scorer who felt he needed to be involved and had rushed onto the field with the players.   He sued but I never heard how that was resolved.  It was an ugly scene. 

I think any suspensions handed out will be for conference games.  If they aren't, they should be.

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2008, 10:12:55 am

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).


Whoa, whoa, BW.

The head coach of UWSP is Pat Bloom.  Garrett Bloom is Pat Bloom's younger brother.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Downtown on April 24, 2008, 10:27:07 am
What is the ruling in the WIAC/NCAA with close plays at home plate?

I know in the WIAA, you pretty much cannot touch the catcher for safety reasons. If the catcher is blocking the plate, you can slide into them, but cannot throw a forearm to knock the ball out of the mitt.

I wonder if the NCAA/WIAC has the same ruling? If that's the case then Fadness should have been thrown out (like he was) immediately.

However, their is NO reason why Stevens Point should have cleared the benches IMO. Anytime their are plays at home plate, you as the runner, or you as the catcher, have to do everything possible to win that situation. Sliding into a catcher who is blocking the plate is like sliding into a brick wall. A great way to injure any part of the lower leg. A forearm to the glove might give you a bruise, or if you have weak wrists, worse. With the ruling, it's always more dangerous for the runner then for the catcher (again, my opinion).

If the Pointers and their fans believe it was to protect their player I'm sorry to say this, but toughen up a bit? Just because one catcher got hurt in a bang-bang play doesn't mean that all catchers are going to get hurt... If anything, from listening to the game on the radio, Oshkosh deserved one ejection, but Point instigated the other 3 players to be tossed.

Like Harry Truman once said "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." (I've been paying probably too much attention to the Democratic Race and not the WIAC race... :-\)



Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 11:47:59 am

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).


Whoa, whoa, BW.

The head coach of UWSP is Pat Bloom.  Garrett Bloom is Pat Bloom's younger brother.

My bad, of course you are absolutely correct.  I would have been a pretty old high schooler to have played with Pat.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2008, 11:59:09 am
Here is the Collison Rule cut-and-pasted directly from the NCAA Baseball rule book:

Collision Rule
SECTION 7. The rules committee is concerned about unnecessary and violent collisions with the catcher at home plate, and with infielders at all bases. The intent of this rule is to encourage base runners and defensive players to avoid such collisions whenever possible.

     a. When there is a collision between a runner and a fielder who clearly is in possession of the ball, the umpire shall judge:
          (1) Whether the collision by the runner was avoidable (could the runner have reached the base without colliding) or unavoidable (the runner’s path to the base was blocked);
          (2) Whether the runner actually was attempting to reach the base (plate) or attempting to dislodge the ball from the fielder; or
          (3) Whether the runner was using flagrant contact to maliciously dislodge the ball.
     PENALTY—If the runner attempted to dislodge the ball, the runner shall be declared out even if the fielder loses possession of the ball. The ball is dead and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the interference.
     A.R. 1—If the fielder blocks the path of the base runner to the base (plate), the runner may make contact, slide into, or collide with a fielder as long as the runner is making a legitimate attempt to reach the base or plate.
     A.R. 2—If the collision by the runner was malicious, the runner shall be declared out and also ejected from the contest. The ball shall be declared dead.
     A.R. 3—If the runner is safe and the collision is malicious, the runner shall be ruled safe and ejected from the game. If this occurs at any base other than home, the offending team may replace the runner.


     b. If the defensive player blocks the base (plate) or base line clearly without possession of the ball, obstruction shall be called. The umpire shall point and call, “That’s obstruction.” The umpire shall let the play continue until all play has ceased, call time and award any bases that are justified in Rule 2. The obstructed runner is awarded at least one base beyond the base last touched legally before the obstruction.
     A.R.—If the base runner collides flagrantly, the runner shall be declared safe on the obstruction, but will be ejected from the contest. The ball is dead.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 12:13:29 pm
What is the ruling in the WIAC/NCAA with close plays at home plate?

I know in the WIAA, you pretty much cannot touch the catcher for safety reasons. If the catcher is blocking the plate, you can slide into them, but cannot throw a forearm to knock the ball out of the mitt.

I wonder if the NCAA/WIAC has the same ruling? If that's the case then Fadness should have been thrown out (like he was) immediately.

However, their is NO reason why Stevens Point should have cleared the benches IMO. Anytime their are plays at home plate, you as the runner, or you as the catcher, have to do everything possible to win that situation. Sliding into a catcher who is blocking the plate is like sliding into a brick wall. A great way to injure any part of the lower leg. A forearm to the glove might give you a bruise, or if you have weak wrists, worse. With the ruling, it's always more dangerous for the runner then for the catcher (again, my opinion).

If the Pointers and their fans believe it was to protect their player I'm sorry to say this, but toughen up a bit? Just because one catcher got hurt in a bang-bang play doesn't mean that all catchers are going to get hurt... If anything, from listening to the game on the radio, Oshkosh deserved one ejection, but Point instigated the other 3 players to be tossed.

Like Harry Truman once said "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." (I've been paying probably too much attention to the Democratic Race and not the WIAC race... :-\)




I can't believe you would come up with the quote from Harry Truman.  Being at the game, and not listening to the broadcast(Oshkosh broadcast), I'm sure it was not an objective play by play. Everything happened very fast. Maybe the home plate umpire should have done a better job of controlling Fadness, seeing as he was in the middle of Bloom and Fadness. I believe Fadness threw a punch at Bloom, which started the whole mess. And this in no way was anything like the Oshkosh/Whitewater mess. And you can't say that if this happens to a player on your team, his teammates should not stand up for him, as BOTH benches did. It was ugly, plain and simple. Yes, Point beat Oshkosh in game 1 15-4, but they were WINNING game 2 3-0 at the time. So what was the point of the take out attempt? And don't just come down on the Point fans, Oshkosh fans had a hand in this as well. And good luck to Oshkosh or Whitewater in winning the conference. Point has done very well the last 2 years,not winning the conference, but making it to the World Series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 24, 2008, 12:45:06 pm
If he was as dead at the plate as others have made it sound, by rule the runner has to make the effort to avoid the contact. Obviously there is intent to dislodge the ball from the catcher through contact. So the umpire was right in calling him out and ejecting Fadness.
As for running the catcher in my opinion bring it on, as most catchers will tell you. It's part of the game and I understand the NCAA wanting to protect kids but there is a lot of emotions running in these types of games and the fact that you cant run the catcher creates a situation like the one at Oshkosh. If running the catcher was a legal play, people expect it to happen and do not react by rushing the field.
The whole issue with fans is absurd, the visiting squad is always going to take the heat. Remember its 75% the home teams parents, alums and fans. If this was at Stevens Point we'd be hearing it from there side. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 01:01:40 pm
If he was as dead at the plate as others have made it sound, by rule the runner has to make the effort to avoid the contact. Obviously there is intent to dislodge the ball from the catcher through contact. So the umpire was right in calling him out and ejecting Fadness.
As for running the catcher in my opinion bring it on, as most catchers will tell you. It's part of the game and I understand the NCAA wanting to protect kids but there is a lot of emotions running in these types of games and the fact that you cant run the catcher creates a situation like the one at Oshkosh. If running the catcher was a legal play, people expect it to happen and do not react by rushing the field.
The whole issue with fans is absurd, the visiting squad is always going to take the heat. Remember its 75% the home teams parents, alums and fans. If this was at Stevens Point we'd be hearing it from there side. 
Point well taken. But if the same thing happened in Point I can't imagine the results or the fans reaction any differnet. And Point has the largest parent and fan following of the schools. And this is one of the biggest rivalries, besides Point and Whitewater. I guess it is a macho thing, seeing as Point, Oshkosh and Whitewater, year in and year out are the top teams. And yes, Fadness was dead at the plate, well before he reached it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 01:31:21 pm
Update from the fight yesterday.  Garrett Bloom ended up with a fractured wrist. So say what you want-ending a players season, was not worth what Fadness did.
Side note, a Ripon player was at the game and couldn't believe that Fadness would intentionally try to take out Bloom the way he did. Thought he had more class than that.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 24, 2008, 01:50:30 pm

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).


Whoa, whoa, BW.

The head coach of UWSP is Pat Bloom.  Garrett Bloom is Pat Bloom's younger brother.

But is Pat and Garrett sons of Howard.  Inquiring minds need to know.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2008, 02:38:53 pm
I think any suspensions handed out will be for conference games.  If they aren't, they should be.
So if this would have happened in a NC game, would that mean the suspensions would be in the next NC game the teams played?  Of course not.....  so why should the suspensions have to be for a conference game if that is not the next game?  

As far as the bolded comment, I have to wonder if you would be singing a different tune if this was Whitewater/Oshkosh or Whitewater/Point instead of Point/Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 24, 2008, 03:17:50 pm
It should be a conference game because it occurred in a conference game.  You can agree or disagree as you wish but that's my opinion.  Bloom is probably out for the season so Fadness missing a single conference game seems a small price to pay.   But I'm sure Oshkosh fans would prefer it to happen in a meaningless nonconference game because, after all, it is next.  That's their opinion and they're entitled to it. 

What happens if it takes the commissioner's office time to investigate and by the time he reaches a decision Oshkosh has a conference game up next? Would it be unfair to suspend them for that game because the investigation wasn't completed in time to suspend them for the next game?  And what if Stevens Point has someone suspended? They should miss a conference game because it's next while Oshkosh misses a nonconference one, that's fair in your book?

Suspensions come from the commissioners office.  I don't know the answer to this question but does the conference commissioner have the authority to suspend someone for something that happened in a nonconference game? 

I sang the same tune when it was WHITEWATER/Oshkosh so you need not wonder.   Not being aware of any WHITEWATER/Stevens Point brawls I can only speculate that I'd take the same stand. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 03:26:52 pm

Of course Garrett Bloom is head coach Howard Bloom's son.  I played high school baseball with Howard Bloom ( useless trivial information).


Whoa, whoa, BW.

The head coach of UWSP is Pat Bloom.  Garrett Bloom is Pat Bloom's younger brother.

But is Pat and Garrett sons of Howard.  Inquiring minds need to know.
YES
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 03:36:06 pm
It should be a conference game because it occurred in a conference game.  You can agree or disagree as you wish but that's my opinion.  Bloom is probably out for the season so Fadness missing a single conference game seems a small price to pay.   But I'm sure Oshkosh fans would prefer it to happen in a meaningless nonconference game because, after all, it is next.  That's their opinion and they're entitled to it. 

What happens if it takes the commissioner's office time to investigate and by the time he reaches a decision Oshkosh has a conference game up next? Would it be unfair to suspend them for that game because the investigation wasn't completed in time to suspend them for the next game?  And what if Stevens Point has someone suspended? They should miss a conference game because it's next while Oshkosh misses a nonconference one, that's fair in your book?

Suspensions come from the commissioners office.  I don't know the answer to this question but does the conference commissioner have the authority to suspend someone for something that happened in a nonconference game? 

I sang the same tune when it was WHITEWATER/Oshkosh so you need not wonder.   Not being aware of any WHITEWATER/Stevens Point brawls I can only speculate that I'd take the same stand. 
BadgerWarhawk thanks for chiming in with your point of view. I totally agree with everything you said. And I can't see where there would be anything like this between Point and WW. We HATE your coach, but don't know of any issues with the players. And I would also take the same stand if it happened between our two teams.
Personally, I would like Fadness to miss the rest of the season. Seems fair as he ended Bloom's season. But I would guess the commissioner will follow the guidelines and rules, and whatever happens happens.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 24, 2008, 03:41:32 pm
What happens if it takes the commissioner's office time to investigate and by the time he reaches a decision Oshkosh has a conference game up next? Would it be unfair to suspend them for that game because the investigation wasn't completed in time to suspend them for the next game?  And what if Stevens Point has someone suspended? They should miss a conference game because it's next while Oshkosh misses a nonconference one, that's fair in your book?
If that is the way the schedule plays out than so be it....

Obviously if they don't rule by Tuesday, I would agree any suspensions need to be served the next possible games.  You can bet there won't be any appeals and risk the chance of missing WIAC tournament games.  

In 2004, the Whitewater/Oshkosh brawl was on a Saturday, and the suspension were issued by Thursday, so one would think that at least gives us a timeline.  If the same timeline is followed this time, we should know of any suspension by Monday at the latest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2008, 04:07:00 pm
Suspensions always occur in the next scheduled games regardless of whether the opponent is conference or not.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 24, 2008, 04:25:20 pm
Update from the fight yesterday.  Garrett Bloom ended up with a fractured wrist. So say what you want-ending a players season, was not worth what Fadness did.
Side note, a Ripon player was at the game and couldn't believe that Fadness would intentionally try to take out Bloom the way he did. Thought he had more class than that.
Oh, man ... hoping that wasn't going to be the case. Sincerely hope Garrett heals up.

Do you know whether the injury was a result of the collision or the melee? It's only natural to say it's from the collision no matter what, but I think it's a valid question. I saw some haymakers out there, and not technically sound haymakers, either.

We'll never know, but I don't think three Oshkosh guys bumrush the plate and set off the fight if the roles and locations were reversed. I think the fight started with those three, not the collision. There was a moment when it was Bloom, Fadness and those three Point guys at the plate. When those three led out and attacked and jawed, Oshkosh reacted. But that's where my bias really shows, and it doesn't matter so much whether it was justified. It just sucked all around.

I was at the 2004 Whitewater/Oshkosh brawl too. If you didn't know, the fight yesterday was a tea party compared to that mother. Doug Henry broke a dude's nose and was taken away in handcuffs that day. There were other memories of the "sweet science" and mixed martial arts that day that I'll remain quiet about. It's one of my least favorite baseball memories. That wasn't baseball. On side note I think I saw the UWO player who was hit by WW that day, in the stands yesterday.

Longball, do you know anything more about the Fadness/Thrun rift you touched on last night? Thrun plunked Fadness yesterday to put him on in the 5th, the inning of the fight. Thrun got one more out, intentionally walked Demmin and took a seat. The next batter, about four minutes later, was when the fight started, and Thrun was one of the first three out of the dugout.

Thrun also hit Fadness last Wednesday. So, that tells me that you are maybe on to something. Don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, and I don't think I would have connected any dots without you mentioning it, but that's intriguing. That might help explain how things escalated from the play itself to what ensued, because I don't think the play in and of itself was malicious. Maybe illegal (I think that's debatable, but I'll concede that) according to NCAA rules, but not malicious.

Two 150-pounders, one with a four-step headstart (Fadness stopped and started 3/4 down the line, if I remember correctly) and sliding, the other with gear ... I don't know. Still think it was a good, hard, unpoetic baseball play – the kind that happens evey once in awhile. And the kind that tends to get blown up when you have ultracompetitive longtime conference rivals.

That's all I'll say about it. You guys/gals can reply, but I'm ready to move on and watch some more baseball. I hope this doesn't take away from the rest of what's shaping up to be a great conference season. Good luck and a virtual high-5/handshake to all. Just because the players have issues, that doesn't mean we have to.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 05:58:44 pm
Update from the fight yesterday.  Garrett Bloom ended up with a fractured wrist. So say what you want-ending a players season, was not worth what Fadness did.
Side note, a Ripon player was at the game and couldn't believe that Fadness would intentionally try to take out Bloom the way he did. Thought he had more class than that.
Oh, man ... hoping that wasn't going to be the case. Sincerely hope Garrett heals up.

Do you know whether the injury was a result of the collision or the maylay? It's only natural to say it's from the collision no matter what, but I think it's a valid question. I saw some haymakers out there, and not technically sound haymakers, either.

We'll never know, but I don't think three Oshkosh guys bumrush the plate and set off the fight if the roles and locations were reversed. I think the fight started with those three, not the collision. There was a moment when it was Bloom, Fadness and those three Point guys at the plate. When those three led out and attacked and jawed, Oshkosh reacted. But that's where my bias really shows, and it doesn't matter so much whether it was justified. It just sucked all around.

I was at the 2004 Whitewater/Oshkosh brawl too. If you didn't know, the fight yesterday was a tea party compared to that mother. Doug Henry broke a dude's nose and was taken away in handcuffs that day. There were other memories of the "sweet science" and mixed martial arts that day that I'll remain quiet about. It's one of my least favorite baseball memories. That wasn't baseball. On side note I think I saw the UWO player who was hit by WW that day, in the stands yesterday.

Longball, do you know anything more about the Fadness/Thrun rift you touched on last night? Thrun plunked Fadness yesterday to put him on in the 5th, the inning of the fight. Thrun got one more out, intentionally walked Demmin and took a seat. The next batter, about four minutes later, was when the fight started, and Thrun was one of the first three out of the dugout.

Thrun also hit Fadness last Wednesday. So, that tells me that you are maybe on to something. Don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, and I don't think I would have connected any dots without you mentioning it, but that's intriguing. That might help explain how things escalated from the play itself to what ensued, because I don't think the play in and of itself was malicious. Maybe illegal (I think that's debatable, but I'll concede that) according to NCAA rules, but not malicious.

Two 150-pounders, one with a four-step headstart (Fadness stopped and started 3/4 down the line, if I remember correctly) and sliding, the other with gear ... I don't know. Still think it was a good, hard, unpoetic baseball play – the kind that happens evey once in awhile. And the kind that tends to get blown up when you have ultracompetitive longtime conference rivals.

That's all I'll say about it. You guys/gals can reply, but I'm ready to move on and watch some more baseball. I hope this doesn't take away from the rest of what's shaping up to be a great conference season. Good luck and a virtual high-5/handshake to all. Just because the players have issues, that doesn't mean we have to.
Hey Oshdude. Don't have the details of what the beef is between these two.  My guess is no one will comment on it. Just heard something to do with trash talking. I think both will need to think long and hard about it. Was it worth losing a teammate over or having to sit out X number of games. I agree it is over and we should all be able to move on.  And I would hope that when the teams meet again, nothing like this happens again. Unfortunately for Garrett Bloom, I don't think that will be an easy thing to do. And I am not sure if it was from the slide or the fight.  Either way, it still sucks.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on April 24, 2008, 10:21:50 pm
If he was as dead at the plate as others have made it sound, by rule the runner has to make the effort to avoid the contact. Obviously there is intent to dislodge the ball from the catcher through contact. So the umpire was right in calling him out and ejecting Fadness.
As for running the catcher in my opinion bring it on, as most catchers will tell you. It's part of the game and I understand the NCAA wanting to protect kids but there is a lot of emotions running in these types of games and the fact that you cant run the catcher creates a situation like the one at Oshkosh. If running the catcher was a legal play, people expect it to happen and do not react by rushing the field.
The whole issue with fans is absurd, the visiting squad is always going to take the heat. Remember its 75% the home teams parents, alums and fans. If this was at Stevens Point we'd be hearing it from there side. 

As a former catcher, i'd have to disagree with this statement. I knew the rule was that people had to slide, so I never considered getting plowed in a MIAC game. Now, in my MN Amateur games, where plowing the catcher is legal, I was prepared for it and knew how to handle it. But this is D3 baseball and the rules are no plowing.
I've seen and been involved in enough "4 step head start late slides" to know they are bush and probably malicious. A good hard slide happens in a bang bang play which this was not, from all accounts. If you're toast by 5 feet, you're toast, and the rules are written such that you can't take out your frustrations on the catcher. If you disagree with that, go stand 5 feet away from me and let me take my frustrations out on you with a pair of metal cleats on and see how it feels.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 24, 2008, 10:42:04 pm
Thanks Gustie13 for your take on the issue.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 25, 2008, 12:08:36 am
As a neutral party I think the entire thing is terrible. I know their is some bad blood between UWW, UWO, and STP or at least appears to be. From what Ive heard UWW and STP coaches hate each other. From what Ive noticed at times (not all the time) is that some of these schools dont act with a lot of class. If you compare the WIAC with MIAC it fails in comparison to sportsmanship. Again in my opinion this all stems from the head coaches so until they act more sportsmanlike (profressional) this wont change.

All players should be suspended the standard 3 games (conference) and coaches 1 game. I think the WIAC is a very talented and well coached conference but they need to class it up some.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 25, 2008, 01:24:39 am
I think they should have a rule that everyone gets to play. Good grief.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Gustie13 on April 25, 2008, 08:17:02 am
I think they should have a rule that everyone gets to play. Good grief.

Yeah, equal playing time!  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2008, 09:16:53 am
Came across this as I was surfing the net this morning......

WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner says he’ll review a bench-clearing incident during a baseball game Wednesday between U-W Oshkosh and Stevens Point. It happened in the fifth inning of a double-header night-cap, when Nolan Fadness of Oshkosh collided with Pointers’ catcher Garret Bloom on a play at the plate. Bloom took issue with the way Fadness slid, and he started following the runner to his dug-out after the play. Words were exchanged, and both benches cleared. Two players from each team were ejected. Karner says he’ll review a T-V station’s video of the incident, and decide if anyone will be punished. N-C-A-A rules call for a three-game suspension for players ejected for fighting.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 01:36:54 pm
Came across this as I was surfing the net this morning......

WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner says he’ll review a bench-clearing incident during a baseball game Wednesday between U-W Oshkosh and Stevens Point. It happened in the fifth inning of a double-header night-cap, when Nolan Fadness of Oshkosh collided with Pointers’ catcher Garret Bloom on a play at the plate. Bloom took issue with the way Fadness slid, and he started following the runner to his dug-out after the play. Words were exchanged, and both benches cleared. Two players from each team were ejected. Karner says he’ll review a T-V station’s video of the incident, and decide if anyone will be punished. N-C-A-A rules call for a three-game suspension for players ejected for fighting.


Do you have a link?  What's the source?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2008, 01:50:46 pm
Came across this as I was surfing the net this morning......
WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner says he’ll review a bench-clearing incident during a baseball game Wednesday between U-W Oshkosh and Stevens Point. It happened in the fifth inning of a double-header night-cap, when Nolan Fadness of Oshkosh collided with Pointers’ catcher Garret Bloom on a play at the plate. Bloom took issue with the way Fadness slid, and he started following the runner to his dug-out after the play. Words were exchanged, and both benches cleared. Two players from each team were ejected. Karner says he’ll review a T-V station’s video of the incident, and decide if anyone will be punished. N-C-A-A rules call for a three-game suspension for players ejected for fighting.
Do you have a link?  What's the source?
You'll have to click on the sports link on the left side of the page....

http://www.wrpnam.com/
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 03:12:45 pm
Thanks!

Here's another article.   No new information.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=743461
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 25, 2008, 05:31:54 pm
Thanks, Cubs +1.
Correct me here, but it was Warwick and not Bloom who was the second Pointer ejected, right?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 25, 2008, 05:35:10 pm
Thanks, Cubs +1.
Correct me here, but it was Warwick and not Bloom who was the second Pointer ejected, right?
Yes, you are correct....  Due to Warwick's ejection, Point had to put seldom used Steve Considine behind the plate after Bloom's injury.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 25, 2008, 05:41:12 pm
In a bit of trivia (I hope ;)), Gary Karner is the chair of the Midwest Region ranking committee. There are only four people on said committee. One is Illinois College head coach Jay Eckhouse and one is Augsburg HC Keith Bateman. The other is ... Stevens Point HC Pat Bloom.

Just thought I'd throw that out there for your consideration. Gotta love Midwest baseball. Lotta ins, a lotta outs and a lotta what-have-yous.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 05:44:40 pm
If Bloom is hurt and Warwick is suspeneded, might Doug Coe have to catch?  Is his knee cleared to do that?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 25, 2008, 05:50:04 pm
If Bloom is hurt and Warwick is suspeneded, might Doug Coe have to catch?  Is his knee cleared to do that?
I think so unless he recently tweaked something. Coe caught both ends of the DH against UWO in "round one," two Wednesdays ago.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 26, 2008, 11:06:18 am
Hey BadgerWarhawk-got a question for you. How does WW get to play in the dome so much? Do they know someone or just have a lot of cash in their program?
Point/Stout games cancelled for today, and I can't see the weather improving in the next couple of days. Games have to be played and would think playing at the dome would make sense. If you know the answer, thanks, if not, that's okay too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 26, 2008, 12:15:25 pm
I don't know the answer longball, but I did read that it's for rent at $400 an hour not including use of the scoreboard, which is another $35 an hour. Stout played WW there, so I'm sure they must know how to go about it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 26, 2008, 03:30:11 pm
Thanks janesville flash.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2008, 04:09:06 pm
We do have an inside connection in that one of our parents works in the Twin front office.  Though I don't know that it gets us any breaks except perhaps the ability to schedule it on short notice.  As far as the money I don't know.  The baseball program is very active in fund raising and selling gear so I guess they have the resources. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 26, 2008, 09:05:42 pm
The WARHAWKS and LaCrosse split today's doublehitter.  WW won the opener 14-7, LaCrosse took the second one 9-8. 

The WARHAWKS led 5-1 in game one but LaCrosse tied it 5-5 in the fifth and after WW went 7-5 tied it again 7-7 after six innings.  However WW scored 7 over the last three innings to put it away.  Steve Hedgepath went 4.2 innings before being relieved by Gregg Riek who finished and picked up the win.  Billy Johnson was 4x5 with 3 RS and Kevin Zalnis went 3x5 including a home run.  Zalnis, Joe Munn and Mike Kenseth all had 2 RBI. 

WW led 4-1 in game two but LaCrosse scored 6 (4 unearned) in the 5th to go ahead and added 2 more to increase the lead to 9-4 after seven innings.  WW scored 4 in the ninth and had bases loaded but fell a run short.  Joe Munn started but was relieved by Kale Olson after 3.2 innings.  Olson struggled and wasn't helped by some sloopy defense before being relieved by Greg Donovan who finished the final 4 innings.  Olson took the loss.  Billy Johnson drove in 4 runs and both Ben Kuhlmann and Ben Prather had 3 hits. 

The race tightens. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 09:44:48 pm
Thank you, La Crosse. Thank you very much  ;).

Saw Point has six games over the next three days, with Ripon being the last two of those games. Adds to the opportunity for another in-region Point loss. After Ripon, Point has a single game against a decent Edgewood team the next day. Tough schedule heading into the Whitewater season-enders.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 26, 2008, 11:31:02 pm
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 27, 2008, 04:46:08 pm
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
In the same vein, Point LF Eric Fritz, DH/C Doug Coe and C Ben Warwick are not in the lineup in Game 2 against Stout today, according to Stout's live stats. Add to that P Mike Thrun and injured C Garrett Bloom and we may have our suspended players. Maybe not. Could be coincidence or the fact that it's Stout.

Anyone hear anything definitive?

EDIT: Coe just pinch-hit in Game 2. EDIT 2: Fritz also played.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 27, 2008, 04:57:46 pm
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
In the same vein, Point LF Eric Fritz, DH/C Doug Coe and C Ben Warwick are not in the lineup in Game 2 against Stout today, according to Stout's live stats. Add to that P Mike Thrun and injured C Garrett Bloom and we may have our suspended players. Maybe not. Could be coincidence or the fact that it's Stout.

Anyone hear anything definitive?

Well it seems like those guys are not playing due to the suspensions. Despite it being Stout I think you will still play one of your three catchers. I see they have another catcher but hasnt played. I would of figured UWOs players would of had to sit out conference games, it only would seem fair.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on April 27, 2008, 08:07:03 pm
Congrats to the Warhawk softball team...WIAC regular season champs!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2008, 08:10:53 pm
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
-Another way of looking at it, is that Coach Lechnir wanted to get some playing time for guys that will step in if/when suspenions are handed down.

-Rubens likely played 2B after Hubbard pinch hit in the 8th for Feldman because of UWO not having any IF's left on the bench and Hubbard being an OF.

-Coach Lechnir typically gets his SENIOR pitchers (or Juniors who may get drafted, i.e. Jack Taschner) one AB in a game that has already been decided.  (This is why Rubens did not get an AB.)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2008, 08:14:00 pm
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
In the same vein, Point LF Eric Fritz, DH/C Doug Coe and C Ben Warwick are not in the lineup in Game 2 against Stout today, according to Stout's live stats. Add to that P Mike Thrun and injured C Garrett Bloom and we may have our suspended players. Maybe not. Could be coincidence or the fact that it's Stout.

Anyone hear anything definitive?

EDIT: Coe just pinch-hit in Game 2.
Fritz ended up playing in both games of the DH as well, so Warwick is really the only noticable name missing, assuming Bloom won't be playing with a broke wrist suspension or not.  If Thrun doesn't throw tomorrow, then you could add his name as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2008, 08:35:10 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/27)
Whitewater 17-3
Oshkosh 16-4
Stevens Point 13-5
La Crosse 8-12
Platteville 7-11
Stout 4-18
Superior 3-15
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 27, 2008, 08:41:38 pm
The WARHAWKS took both ends of today's double hitter with LaCrosse 11-2 and 15-4 (7 innings).  Adam Dominick went the distance in game one surrendering 6 hits and striking out 12.  With the score 2-1 after four innings the WARHAWKS scored 4 runs after two outs on 3 singles and 2 hit batters in the fifth to put the game away.  Ben Kuhlmann, Ben Prather, Sam Petrasko and Billy Johnson all had 2 hits.  Prather, Petrasko, Johnson and Joe Munn each had 2 RBI.

Mike Jacobson went 6.2 innings for the win in game two.  Jacobson yielded 7 hits and struck out 4.  Every starter had a hit in the 15 hit attack.   Johnson led the way going 3x4 with 4 RBI and Greg Harder added a pair of hits and 4 RBI.  Tom Corcoran went 3x4 and Prather and Greg Donovan each had 2 hits.   Ben Kuhlmann connected for a 2 run home run.  The WARHAWKS decided this one early with an 8 run third inning that included 7 hits.  

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 27, 2008, 08:45:55 pm
Anyone able to comment on why Whitewater's Aaron Dott did not pitch at all this weekend?  

He didn't pitch on Wednesday against Platteville either, so it's not like he would have been going on short rest.  His last appearance was April 21st in Whitewater's 3-1 victory over Superior at the Metrodome where he got the CG victory.  

I guess it really wouldn't have caught my eye, except for the fact that Whitewater brought back both Jacobson and Dominick today on three days rest after both threw 6 1/3 innings on Wednesday against Platteville, while Dott never stepped on the mound having five days of rest.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 01:57:38 am
Don't know how much we can read into this, but UWO's Nolan Fadness, Brock Wetenkamp (the players ejected this week) and RF Jason Fosler did not play today. My guess is that they were suspended and they all either started or completed their suspensions today.

All other regular UWO position players started both ends of today's DH.

Jeremy Rubens even played a little 2B today.
Curt Hendricks got an AB, but veteran UWO pitchers have sometimes received AB's in nonconference blowouts in the past. UWO's Brett Hubbard was in uniform today as well.
In the same vein, Point LF Eric Fritz, DH/C Doug Coe and C Ben Warwick are not in the lineup in Game 2 against Stout today, according to Stout's live stats. Add to that P Mike Thrun and injured C Garrett Bloom and we may have our suspended players. Maybe not. Could be coincidence or the fact that it's Stout.

Anyone hear anything definitive?

Well it seems like those guys are not playing due to the suspensions. Despite it being Stout I think you will still play one of your three catchers. I see they have another catcher but hasnt played. I would of figured UWOs players would of had to sit out conference games, it only would seem fair.
Suspended players are Bloom, Warwick and Thrun.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 02:04:18 am
Thank you, La Crosse. Thank you very much  ;).

Saw Point has six games over the next three days, with Ripon being the last two of those games. Adds to the opportunity for another in-region Point loss. After Ripon, Point has a single game against a decent Edgewood team the next day. Tough schedule heading into the Whitewater season-enders.
Ripon games postponed again. If games in Stout don't happen tomorrow(chance of snow) would be played on Tuesday(guessing). Trying to play games against Ripon the following Tuesday. Apparently Ripon doesn't want to play then because of Conference Tournament(like Point won't be in the same boat). Either way, it's another rough week for Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 02:09:28 am
Oshdude, I have a couple of questions for you, you can answer or not.
Heard Fadness took out one of Superior's catchers, and he also got hurt, is this true?
Also heard that Lechnir congratulated his players on the brawl(Don't want to believe this one) true or false?
Don't want to stir up any hard feelings, just curious. I also respect you for your knowledge and seeming to be a decent person.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 28, 2008, 03:01:11 am
Oshdude, I have a couple of questions for you, you can answer or not.
Heard Fadness took out one of Superior's catchers, and he also got hurt, is this true?
Also heard that Lechnir congratulated his players on the brawl(Don't want to believe this one) true or false?
Don't want to stir up any hard feelings, just curious. I also respect you for your knowledge and seeming to be a decent person.
I was at the Superior games, but I don't recall an incident or even a play at the plate. Then again, it was a long time ago. Slinger would be able to answer that one better than I. Did not hear anything about the brawl congrats, either. As an aside, I wonder if any other D-III baseball coach in history has had more junk talked about him than Tom Lechnir. I doubt it.

What I can say for sure is I'm happy Nolan plays for Oshkosh and that Lechnir is the head coach. I wouldn't want to face those two guys, and I respect them both.

I hope your guys take one or two from Whitewater this week. The No. 1 seed, like always, is essential (unless some team "pulls a Point" in elimination games this year).

And I may be decent, but I'll disagree with the other part of your last sentence. I'm not very smart.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on April 28, 2008, 07:49:34 am
UW-Whitewater clinched sole possession of the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference championship with a doubleheader sweep of UW-Eau Claire, 2-0 and 12-4, in Eau Claire Sunday.

UW-EC, now 25-9, came in to the day ranked eleventh in the National Fastpitch Coaches Association Division III poll.  UW-W, winners of twelve in a row, is now 28-6.

The Warhawks, 14-2 in league play, have completed their WIAC schedule.  Eau Claire, 10-4, has a doubleheader with Superior remaining on the schedule and UW-Oshkosh, 10-3, has three league games left.  UW-Whitewater will be the number one seed in the WIAC tournament, May 2-3 in Stevens Point.  The winner of the league's postseason tournament earns an automatic berth in the National Collegiate Athletic Association Division III championship. 

Congrats to UW-W :)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 08:45:14 am
I hope your guys take one or two from Whitewater this week. The No. 1 seed, like always, is essential (unless some team "pulls a Point" in elimination games this year).
I don't see anyone pulling a Point this year for the simple fact that I don't think any of the top four teams have enough pitching to do it.  There also isn't a pitcher in the WIAC that can pull a Jordan Zimmerman and completely dominate on short rest if needed, at least in my eyes....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2008, 11:03:44 am
UW-Whitewater clinched sole possession of the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference championship with a doubleheader sweep of UW-Eau Claire, 2-0 and 12-4, in Eau Claire Sunday.

UW-EC, now 25-9, came in to the day ranked eleventh in the National Fastpitch Coaches Association Division III poll.  UW-W, winners of twelve in a row, is now 28-6.

The Warhawks, 14-2 in league play, have completed their WIAC schedule.  Eau Claire, 10-4, has a doubleheader with Superior remaining on the schedule and UW-Oshkosh, 10-3, has three league games left.  UW-Whitewater will be the number one seed in the WIAC tournament, May 2-3 in Stevens Point.  The winner of the league's postseason tournament earns an automatic berth in the National Collegiate Athletic Association Division III championship. 

Congrats to UW-W :)


It was the programs sixth conference championship and the first since 1999.   They were picked to finish fifth.  I would be surprised if Brenda Volk isn't the Coach of the Year. 

(http://www.uwwsports.com/images/softball/2008/4/27/softballchamp.jpg)

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2008, 11:06:11 am

I don't see anyone pulling a Point this year for the simple fact that I don't think any of the top four teams have enough pitching to do it.


Except possibly Point.  I don't think it's coincidence that Point has won the conference tournament every year since it was moved off campus to Wisconsin Rapids. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 11:40:58 am
Badgerwarhawk-
Since you are the guy to talk to regarding anything with Whitewater athletics, are you just ignoring my question about Dott?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 28, 2008, 01:00:15 pm
Badgerwarhawk-
Since you are the guy to talk to regarding anything with Whitewater athletics, are you just ignoring my question about Dott?

No, I don't know the reason and couldn't think of any reason to post that. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 01:17:11 pm
Badgerwarhawk-
Since you are the guy to talk to regarding anything with Whitewater athletics, are you just ignoring my question about Dott?
No, I don't know the reason and couldn't think of any reason to post that. 
Gotcha....  I'm guessing if you don't know, it's pretty safe to assume we as fans aren't going to hear anything. 

Who knows, maybe there just isn't anything to it and I'm making something out of nothing..... :-\
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubsbaseball on April 28, 2008, 02:18:20 pm
Dott was in a knee brace for the La Crosse series this weekend.  Heard it was a torn ACL.  Do not know for sure. 

As for the Oshkosh/Point brawl, I am not at all surprised that Fadness was in the middle of it.  When Oshkosh was at LAX, everyone in the park wanted a piece of Fadness and Kannenberg.  They ran their mouths the whole series and were constantly in the LAX players faces anytime they got a hit or made a routine defensive play and by the third an forth game is was getting to be ridiculous.  Fadness is a great player, but in that series, he took every opprotunity to let anyone he went by know how good he is.  There is a difference between confidence and cockiness and he definitely was on the cocky side.  So an incident like this does not surpirse me at all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 28, 2008, 03:05:09 pm
Just throwing this out there but since when did this become a baseball-softball thread!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 03:19:03 pm
Just throwing this out there but since when did this become a baseball-softball thread!
I agree. Don't they have there own site?
Oshdude, thanks for your answers, and don't sell yourself short.
Pont beats Stout 17-0 in first game. Thrun pitches complete game and strikes out 10.
Even had Kempf pinch hit in the 7th.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 28, 2008, 04:36:18 pm
Just throwing this out there but since when did this become a baseball-softball thread!
I agree. Don't they have there own site?
Oshdude, thanks for your answers, and don't sell yourself short.
Pont beats Stout 17-0 in first game. Thrun pitches complete game and strikes out 10.
Even had Kempf pinch hit in the 7th.
If Thrun threw today, are we to assume that he got a two-game suspension? Any word on the others? Is Warwick's longer seeing as he didn't play again in Game 1? Unless he's hurt, I don't see how he's not suspended when you put Kevin Thomas behind the plate.

And I love the Oshkosh against the world stuff. I'm sure the UWO players and Lechnir do too. Everything is right with the world when the whole conference hates Oshkosh. That makes me feel good, but I must admit I naturally like confident/cocky players (huge Larry Bird and Reggie Miller fan, for example). It's just like the good old days before Whitewater and Point knocked UWO off the WIAC mountain top.

Welcome to the boards, cubsbaseball. At least we can agree on our favorite MLB team. As for favorite WIAC players, I'll take the hit and enjoy Kanny and Nolan while they're here. Everyone gets another two and three years, respectively, of hating those guys  ;). As an added bonus, next year there will be double the Fadnesses to hate. By the way, I'm sure it's evident to everyone, but Oshkosh returns everyone besides Curt Hendricks next year, barring transfers and what-have-you. Glad to see the anomosity already in high gear for this group.

Most of that is tongue-in-cheek, and I'm not a cocky dude myself. I'm an abider, not an instigator (For the Achievers out there, I don't draw a line in the sand with my unchecked aggression, as it were). But it is interesting how success, history and perceived cockiness go hand in hand (in hand).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 28, 2008, 05:10:23 pm
Game 2 Point vs Stout  Point 22 Stout 3 bottom of the 4th.
Thrun 1 game, Bloom and Warwick 3 games.
But if you are kicking butt big time, why not let the other guys see the field. Look out WW if the bats can stay this hot(yea I know it's only Stout, but I can dream).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 09:10:06 pm
One thing I don't quite get is how you give a pitcher a one game suspension and position players multiple game suspensions.  It just doesn't add up to me.... ::) 

Thrun didn't miss anything because he is a starting pitcher whereas Warwick has to miss three games.  Anyone else find that odd?  There is a reason starting pitchers get five game suspensions in MLB so that it actually means something instead of just being able to flip the rotation and avoid the penalty.

As far as the Fadness' go, there could be three of them before all is said and done, as there is another one who is a Junior catcher at Eau Claire Memorial this year.  He was a 1st Team All Conference selection last year as a Sophomore.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 09:12:43 pm
And I love the Oshkosh against the world stuff. I'm sure the UWO players and Lechnir do too. Everything is right with the world when the whole conference hates Oshkosh.  It's just like the good old days before Whitewater and Point knocked UWO off the WIAC mountain top.
I know it's music to my ears!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 28, 2008, 09:23:34 pm
Platteville and UWS split today only reason i mentioned it was because UWS was down 7-0 after 8 1/2 in game 1. UWS then scored 9 runs in the bottom of 9 on a three run walk off homer to win 9-7.
Only 3 of the total 16 runs scored were earned.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 28, 2008, 09:27:05 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/28)
*Whitewater 17-3
*Oshkosh 16-4
*Stevens Point 15-5
La Crosse 8-12
Platteville 8-12
Superior 4-16
Stout 4-20

*Clinched WIAC Tournament berth

What this means.....

-If Whitewater sweeps Point next week, they are the WIAC Champs.  If they win 3 out of 4, they clinch a tie for the WIAC Championship.  If they split, they need Platteville to win at least one game against Oshkosh to still get a share of the WIAC title.  If Point takes 3 out of 4, they finish tied with Point, however Point would hold the tie-breaker, unless Oshkosh splits with Platteville in which the three way tie-breaker would come into play and Oshkosh (5-3) would be the #1, Point (4-4) #2, and Whitewater (3-5) #3 after the head-to heads.

-Superior needs to sweep La Crosse and hope for Oshkosh to sweep Platteville which would result in a three-way tie for the #4 spot.  Superior would get the nod to the dance by virtue of their 5-3 head to head record (Platteville 3-5, La Crosse 2-6.)

Did I miss anything???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on April 28, 2008, 10:33:13 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 4/28)
*Whitewater 17-3
*Oshkosh 16-4
*Stevens Point 15-5
La Crosse 8-12
Platteville 8-12
Superior 4-16
Stout 4-20

*Clinched WIAC Tournament berth

What this means.....

-If Whitewater sweeps Point next week, they are the WIAC Champs.  If they win 3 out of 4, they clinch a tie for the WIAC Championship.  If they split, they need Platteville to win at least one game against Oshkosh to still get a share of the WIAC title.  If Point takes 3 out of 4, they finish tied with Point, however Point would hold the tie-breaker, unless Oshkosh splits with Platteville in which the three way tie-breaker would come into play and Oshkosh (5-3) would be the #1, Point (4-4) #2, and Whitewater (3-5) #3 after the head-to heads.

-Superior needs to sweep La Crosse and hope for Oshkosh to sweep Platteville which would result in a three-way tie for the #4 spot.  Superior would get the nod to the dance by virtue of their 5-3 head to head record (Platteville 3-5, La Crosse 2-6.)

Did I miss anything???


That will be a tall order for UW- Whitewater to sweep as they play 2 double hitters against the Pointers.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 29, 2008, 03:13:49 am
Oshdude, I have a couple of questions for you, you can answer or not.
Heard Fadness took out one of Superior's catchers, and he also got hurt, is this true?
Also heard that Lechnir congratulated his players on the brawl(Don't want to believe this one) true or false?
Don't want to stir up any hard feelings, just curious. I also respect you for your knowledge and seeming to be a decent person.

That is true, force out at the plate and went out of the way, catcher ended up with a fractured leg....was pretty intentional....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on April 29, 2008, 03:16:52 am
Platteville and UWS split today only reason i mentioned it was because UWS was down 7-0 after 8 1/2 in game 1. UWS then scored 9 runs in the bottom of 9 on a three run walk off homer to win 9-7.
Only 3 of the total 16 runs scored were earned.


and all the runs were scored with 2 outs....was quite the scene and apparently fsn was taping the games as well...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2008, 08:48:53 am
So Fadness has ended the season of two players.  He had a hard slide/collision at the plate down here too.  The umpire ruled it legal but it was right on the edge and could have gone either way.  Fortunately no one was injured.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2008, 09:04:36 am
So Fadness has ended the season of two players. 
Depends on if Bloom broke his wrist on Fadness' slide or when he was throwing punches.....  If he did it throwing a punch, pretty hard to blame Fadness for that. ???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tommiepitcher on April 29, 2008, 10:40:27 am
Man - no love for Steven's Point this week.  With a record of 221-10 you'd think they'd move up more than three spots.

http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2008/week-10
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 29, 2008, 10:52:34 am
Man - no love for Steven's Point this week.  With a record of 221-10 you'd think they'd move up more than three spots.

http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2008/week-10
No wonder their pitching staff is tired.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 12:49:27 pm
So Fadness has ended the season of two players. 
Depends on if Bloom broke his wrist on Fadness' slide or when he was throwing punches.....  If he did it throwing a punch, pretty hard to blame Fadness for that. ???
Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2008, 01:08:35 pm
So Fadness has ended the season of two players. 
Depends on if Bloom broke his wrist on Fadness' slide or when he was throwing punches.....  If he did it throwing a punch, pretty hard to blame Fadness for that. ???
Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.
Can I ask how anyone would know?

Your comment makes Bloom following Fadness towards his dugout all the more puzzling.....  One would think that a guy with a broken wrist as the result of a collision would be writhing in pain and not too concerned about "getting even."
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 02:51:16 pm
So Fadness has ended the season of two players. 
Depends on if Bloom broke his wrist on Fadness' slide or when he was throwing punches.....  If he did it throwing a punch, pretty hard to blame Fadness for that. ???
Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.
Can I ask how anyone would know?

Your comment makes Bloom following Fadness towards his dugout all the more puzzling.....  One would think that a guy with a broken wrist as the result of a collision would be writhing in pain and not too concerned about "getting even."
I would think that Bloom should have an idea when it happened. And as for being in pain, everyone has their own level of tolerance. And he did come out in the next inning to catch.  Following Fadness and the next batter had to do with them talking trash to Bloom.
Again, I would assume he would know seeing as it involved him. We all have our own opinions about what happened, and a right to defend our teams. Fact is still, Fadness was ejected for an illegal take out of Bloom, and Bloom still has a fractured wrist. And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 29, 2008, 03:12:57 pm

Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.


It doesn't make any difference anyway.  There wouldn't have been a fight if it weren't for the slide.  You can't treat the two as isolated incidents.  I've broken my wrist three times.  It hurts  but, depending on the severity of the break, you may not be withering in pain and if your adreneline was flowing you could easily follow someone and be oblivious to any pain.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 29, 2008, 03:25:14 pm

Sorry to break it to you, but the fractured wrist was because of the collision NOT the punches he may or may not have thrown.


It doesn't make any difference anyway.  There wouldn't have been a fight if it weren't for the slide.  You can't treat the two as isolated incidents.  I've broken my wrist three times.  It hurts  but, depending on the severity of the break, you may not be withering in pain and if your adreneline was flowing you could easily follow someone and be oblivious to any pain.   
Yeah, I've also broken my wrist on a baseball field. Different circumstances – broke mine making a layed out, over-the-shoulder catch – but I had enough adrenalin flowing to take off my glove and punch the earth a few times with my broken wrist. Stupid earth ... it's so unforgiving at times.

That injury happen on Sunday, Slinger? I was in and out of the park that day. I'd like to think that I pay enough attention to the game while I'm there to remember a broken leg. I know there's no such thing as a "good" fractured leg, but are we talking compounded and may never play again or we'll see him next year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2008, 03:36:58 pm
And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct on this!!!  It's been this way since about 1997 when Point stopped UWO's string of seven straight College World Series appearances.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 05:57:08 pm
And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct on this!!!  It's been this way since about 1997 when Point stopped UWO's string of seven straight College World Series appearances.
So what are you saying cubs, that because Point stopped UWO's streak over 10 years ago, it is okay to take out a player and end his season? Or is it just that is what started the rivalry? Rivalries shouldn't be so competitive, that you want to possibly end  a player's career.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on April 29, 2008, 06:52:02 pm
All this should be taken care of on the field. I hope the game hasn't changed so much since I played that no one knows how anymore.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 29, 2008, 09:02:44 pm
And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct on this!!!  It's been this way since about 1997 when Point stopped UWO's string of seven straight College World Series appearances.
So what are you saying cubs, that because Point stopped UWO's streak over 10 years ago, it is okay to take out a player and end his season?Or is it just that is what started the rivalry? Rivalries shouldn't be so competitive, that you want to possibly end  a player's career.
First of all, it is NEVER alright to take out a player and end his season.  Please don't suggest I was saying that.

What I was saying was that this rivalry started to get gain some steam when Point won the Regional in 1997, nothing more....  However I'm sure that there are some "extra" emotions flowing between these teams now due to some recruiting issues between the schools.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on April 29, 2008, 11:42:34 pm
And don't forget this is quite a rilvary, so emotions were running high.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct on this!!!  It's been this way since about 1997 when Point stopped UWO's string of seven straight College World Series appearances.
So what are you saying cubs, that because Point stopped UWO's streak over 10 years ago, it is okay to take out a player and end his season?Or is it just that is what started the rivalry? Rivalries shouldn't be so competitive, that you want to possibly end  a player's career.
First of all, it is NEVER alright to take out a player and end his season.  Please don't suggest I was saying that.

What I was saying was that this rivalry started to get gain some steam when Point won the Regional in 1997, nothing more....  However I'm sure that there are some "extra" emotions flowing between these teams now due to some recruiting issues between the schools.

Thanks for clearing that up. Did not mean to imply that was what you were saying, just trying to understand where you were coming from on the issue.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 12:42:00 am
Oshkosh got by Marian tonight, 12-7 and 10-5. I may be the only one, but I was worried about those two games. UWO needed Jeremy Rubens for more than 6 IP, though.

UWO mashed in the first game, banging out 20 hits (basically by everyone but the studs).

I think Brock Wetenkamp, Nolan Fadness and Jason Fosler all served three-game suspensions because none played until the second game tonight. Brock celebrated his return by collecting 5 RBI and hitting a 3-run homer.

Now my focus shifts to the Big One. Any predictions or thoughts on the biggest DH of the WIAC season? With a healthy Aaron Dott, I like WW to win three. Without Dott, I have a four-game split. One thing's for sure (in my mind, at least) – a couple of those games will be slugfests.

I'll try to remember to post updated in-region records, OWPs and the rest (through tomorrow's games) on the region board before Thursday's second regional rankings, which I don't see changing much, if at all.  I think the top three should stay in that order. Does Ripon go with CSS or Olaf arriving? I guess some of that will be answered tomorrow with the SP/RC DH. I think Ripon needs to win one game to stay in the rankings this week. Point has a lot to lose tomorrow, IMO.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 30, 2008, 10:53:30 am
Dont believe there will be any changes to the Midwest rankings even after what goes on today @ Ripon. These games won't be reported in time to make a difference. Next weeks rankings will be the ones to watch for, after the conferences are decided and people wrap up the regular season. I believe Point has a LOT to lose, not a conference regular season champion, potential to lose in region games. They need a sweep to keep them as a strong C contender if they falter in the WIAC tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 30, 2008, 11:46:45 am
Point and Ripon can somewhat make or break their season in the next 6 games. Point has Ripon and UWW. Ripon has Point and Norbert.

Obviously Ripon has a pretty good shot of making the regional by winning their weak tourney. i think they will go 3-3 in those 6 games and need to win the tourney to make it. If Ripon plays really well and goes 5-1 they might not need to win their tourney

Point needs to do well in their next 6 games to take the pressure of themselves. If they go 4-2 in those games they are in, 3-3 might get it done too. They are helped out by a weak region after the top 6 teams and can always win their conference. The sudden rise of Olaf might hurt Point though as they look like they are #7 team in the region. Olafs schedule is easy until the conference tourney and will most likely enter with a record of 26-10.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 30, 2008, 12:46:50 pm
Point is in a really tough spot, they need to have a good week. Olaf seems to be taking car of business on their side. They are essentailly battling for a C bid with Point. It is very difficult to take three teams from a conference, I think the WIAC is the exception due to the fact that any of the top three teams are worthy. But to put three teams in the midwest regional you would think that would be a scenario that included the MIAC only having one deserving team, earlier in the season that seemed to be the case but now who knows. Another could be sending a team to the central regional which could be a possibility due to the 500 mile rule.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 30, 2008, 02:56:15 pm
Very cool news item on former UWSP pitcher Jordan Zimmerman who is with the Nationals' High-Class A team:

The Nationals believe that right-hander Shawn Hill and lefty John Lannan are keepers in their rotation, and they could add two more potential building blocks if Class AAA righty Collin Balester arrives at the All-Star break and Class A righty Jordan Zimmermann by September. After that, the Nats could bid for younger free agents who would fit their building program. Dunn, 28, Indians left-hander C.C. Sabathia, 27, Brewers righty Ben Sheets, 29, and Dodgers shortstop Rafael Furcal, 30, would qualify. ...

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8086082/Trade-market-getting-ready-to-open-for-business

A WIACer in the Majors?  How cool would that be?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on April 30, 2008, 03:13:07 pm
"A WIACer in the Majors?  How cool would that be?"

About as cool as Jarrod Washburn.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on April 30, 2008, 03:31:57 pm
"A WIACer in the Majors?  How cool would that be?"

About as cool as Jarrod Washburn.
And Jack Taschner.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on April 30, 2008, 05:06:12 pm
I am aware.

I should have said Another WIACer in the Majors, nitpickers.  ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2008, 06:21:28 pm
Anyone have the results of the Point-Ripon DH today?  I heard Point was considering throwing Coe and Bushong for a few innings today.  Are they not taking Ripon seriously or what?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on April 30, 2008, 07:02:06 pm
Game 1 -- UWSP 4    Ripon 2  in 11 innings, game 2 is underway no score anywhere to be found.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2008, 07:51:47 pm
Thanks, I'm a little surprised about Point only scoring 4 runs.  Does Ripon have any pitching?  I agree with several other posts on here about Point needing to win both today and at least 2 of 4 this weekend.  I would add that they need to at least make the championship of the WIAC tourney also or they won't get an at large.  How about freshman, Jared Surman, being top 3 in hitting in the WIAC as a freshman? I know it's way too early but even being a huge Pointer fan I'm going to go out and say Oshkosh will win the World Series next year.  They are returning nearly everyone and will add Justin Jirschele out of Clintonvile, Jeremy's brother.  This kid will be an outstanding addition to an already loaded team.  All they will need is 1 more pitcher besides Ruebens to dominate.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 08:28:26 pm
Split: 4-2 (11) Point, 7-4 Ripon. Uh oh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 08:34:19 pm
Thanks, I'm a little surprised about Point only scoring 4 runs.  Does Ripon have any pitching?  I agree with several other posts on here about Point needing to win both today and at least 2 of 4 this weekend.  I would add that they need to at least make the championship of the WIAC tourney also or they won't get an at large.  How about freshman, Jared Surman, being top 3 in hitting in the WIAC as a freshman? I know it's way too early but even being a huge Pointer fan I'm going to go out and say Oshkosh will win the World Series next year.  They are returning nearly everyone and will add Justin Jirschele out of Clintonvile, Jeremy's brother.  This kid will be an outstanding addition to an already loaded team.  All they will need is 1 more pitcher besides Ruebens to dominate.
And of course they get Mickey *gulp ;)* Fadness back. UWO should be crazy good next year. SHOULD. We'll see, plus we around these parts have some big ideas about this year. But that's what being a fan is all about, I guess. Take that from a Cubs fan. This is always the year ... until next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 30, 2008, 09:18:40 pm
Split: 4-2 (11) Point, 7-4 Ripon. Uh oh.

Oshdude who you saying uh oh for?

I think Point for sure needs to go 2-2 if not 3-1 against Whitewater
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on April 30, 2008, 09:41:22 pm
Split: 4-2 (11) Point, 7-4 Ripon. Uh oh.

Oshdude who you saying uh oh for?

I think Point for sure needs to go 2-2 if not 3-1 against Whitewater
"Uh oh" because Point is in trouble. Serious trouble. I'm leaning toward 3-1 as necessary. Anything less and we might see Olaf in the future rankings, not Point. Makes things very interesting, that's all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on April 30, 2008, 10:00:18 pm
I am not meaning this is a slam against Ripon but I did not forsee Point losing to them no matter who they pitched today.  I figured Point would be able to pound whoever they put out there and win a slugfest.  I am certainly disappointed in Points record this year but kind of expected them to be up and down especially when Hemstead was unavailable for the year.  Personally, I believe with Hemstead we would be talking about Point as a legit contender for a World Series berth.  They are really missing his experience and innings.  Don't get me wrong Delorit has filled in nicely for Point and TK has pitched well but their just one pitcher short like the year Whitewater won the title but Point beat them 5 times.  I am still wishing Josh Perkins would've been back that year instead of the following year.  I know Point has won the past 3 WIAC titles but one things missing, Jordan Zimmerman and the nearly automatic W when he pitched.  I think TK and Nix would have to pitch really well for them to have a shot.  Looking ahead to regionals I would say it should be some interesting ball.  St. Thomas will be extremely tough with Lonnie Robinsen on the hill.  I believe he mowed down Oshkosh once this year already.  I really wouldn't like Point to do much even if they do get lucky and make regionals primarily because they rely so much on the HR and have used that to their advantage the past few years at Witter Field.  They just don't seem to be able to string hits together and consistenly put up 2-3 runs per inning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on April 30, 2008, 10:01:51 pm
The WARHAWKS swept Concordia 13-2 (7 innings) and 12-7.  Randy Johnson got the start and the win in game one allowing a single hit and no runs in 3 innings.  Bryant Ganser finished and pitched well holding Concordia to a pair of hits.  Ben Kuhlman, Matt Schliewe, Cory Trepanier, Ben Prather and Billy Johnson all hit home runs.  Johnson went 4x4 and his home run was a grand slam.

It was pitching by committee in game two.  Gregg Riek got a rare start.  Steve Hedgepath, Kevin Harves, Greg Donovan and Jason Hooper relieved.  Hedgepath got the win.  Kevin Zalnis went 4x5 and Prather was 3x5 with 2 RBI.  Tom Corcoran added a home run and 2 RBI.  Schliewe and Johnson had a pair of hits apiece.

WHITEWATER had 32 hits in the double hitter.  
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on April 30, 2008, 10:28:14 pm

"Uh oh" because Point is in trouble. Serious trouble. I'm leaning toward 3-1 as necessary. Anything less and we might see Olaf in the future rankings, not Point. Makes things very interesting, that's all.

Ok thats what I assumed and I agree with you new rankings could look like below I ranked 6 so obviously if they only rank 5 take off number 6.

1. Oshkosh
2. Thomas
3. UWW
4. Ripon--did think they would be swept by Point, disappointed in Points offense or surprised by Ripons pitching
5. CSS
6. STP or Olaf

I seriously think they cant put CSS behind Point or Olaf now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2008, 10:39:15 pm
Nice split by Ripon!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 01, 2008, 09:02:41 am
I've heard that Oshkosh will be hosting the NCAA regional tournament and that it will played on North HS's field which is lit.  Having lights is a requirement.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: tommiepitcher on May 01, 2008, 09:21:52 am
i played for ust last year so i'm sure things have changed but you shouldn't take ripon for granted.  They had a guy throw a no-hitter last year in regionals against St. Olaf - A team that had a legitimate power and speed guy in Schmeising.  And, they had Stevens Point eliminated (And I think we all know how point ended up doing last year) until their coach made a bone head move and tried to save pitching in the 9th.  The were up 10-6 and gave up 5 runs, i believe 3 of them with 2 outs.  If Ripon returned anything of the team they had last year, they are pretty good.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 01, 2008, 09:40:05 am
I've heard that Oshkosh will be hosting the NCAA regional tournament and that it will played on North HS's field which is lit.  Having lights is a requirement.
You are correct.....  The Regional host sites came out a few months back (I think it was still during basketball season) and EJ Schneider Field will once again host the Regionals after a LONG hiatus. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 01, 2008, 09:46:49 am
If Point is going to have any chance, they have to cut down on the errors. Can't give any team 4 or 5 outs in an inning. Solid defense, would go a long way, as well a timely hitting. Point had 13 hits in both games, should have been able to put up more than 4 runs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 01, 2008, 01:20:48 pm
Apparently because of the weather forecast, the WW/Point series has been pushed back to 5/4 and 5/5
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 01, 2008, 01:52:58 pm
Apparently because of the weather forecast, the WW/Point series has been pushed back to 5/4 and 5/5
Glad to hear that, rumor was a trip to the dome. Forecast looks good for Sunday and Monday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 01, 2008, 02:52:04 pm
If Point is going to have any chance, they have to cut down on the errors. Can't give any team 4 or 5 outs in an inning. Solid defense, would go a long way, as well a timely hitting. Point had 13 hits in both games, should have been able to put up more than 4 runs.
I've noticed Bushong has been on and off the field lately, with Fritz moving to the IF. Good move if you ask me. Bushong can rake, but it's always been a coin flip in my mind whether he makes the plays on D. His errors come on the weirdest chances, at least against Oshkosh over the years.

If Coe can catch most games and someone else can play SS, Bushong at DH makes a lot of sense. I know he's not the only guy who makes errors in the league, but I was always sure Oshkosh would get at least 28 outs whenever Bushong was out there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 01, 2008, 04:30:26 pm
Larsen also makes his share of errors at 3B.  Bushong is actually pretty solid at SS but you hit it on the head he has had some costly errors over the years.  I agree with Coe behind the plate.  He needs to be back there all the time from here on out so they can use the DH better. I would like to see Schlosser go back to 3B, Fritz to 2B, and have Larsen DH.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 01, 2008, 06:02:22 pm
Coe catching every game the rest of the year would be nuts. He missed all of last year because of the serious injury he received in Florida. While he is having a good year, the wear and tear of catching every game would not bode well for his knee.
If you look at the errors league wide, no one is fielding  very well. Could it have anything to do with the weather, the amount of games played because of the weather, new guys, or just sloppy play by everyone?
With Point losing so many guys to graduation, it nice to see the freshman getting playing time. It looks like they will be okay next year.
Also going to gues that if Coach Bloom knew yesterday that the WW games would be Sunday and Monday, I got to believe he would have pitched differently in game 2 against Ripon.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 02, 2008, 01:53:51 pm
Anyone know whether there's any truth that SPASH standout senior Pitcher/OF Cody Koback is going to Point next year?  I seen him play for Plover this past summer and he's an absolute stud who should definitely be playing D1.  From what I've heard he's had a bunch of D1 offers but may be staying here.  Question is will he pitch or play CF and replace Brandon Schiedler?  I am thinking with all the offense their losing to graduation they will need his bat in the lineup every day.  Outfield would look good with Surman in Left, Koback in Center, Spurney/Archambeau in right.  Assuming Arch would play First and Fritz SS.  Point will really need to either recruit a starting catcher or get a transfer.  Not sure that Bloom has the arm to be an effective catcher.  Thinking he will DH next year.  Doesn't appear Point will have a 3B or 2B either.  Hopefully Hemstead will be back and healthy to go with Nix, Delorit, and Williams.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 02, 2008, 02:36:08 pm
I would have to agree about catching position for Point. Hard to say how Bloom will recover from the fractured wrist(still may need surgery-time will tell). Steve Considine should get some playing time, so I would say he is still unproven. Several freshman are not seeing steady playing time, so they too are unproven.
Would be a nice addition if Kobuck(?) comes to Point. Arch played 1st base for the first ime in his career last year, so I don't think he would hurt the team at first. Also agree a healthy Hemstead, will solidify the starting rotation. Coach Bloom seems to do a pretty good job of recruiting so only time will tell what the 2009 Pointers will look like.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 02, 2008, 04:09:27 pm
Anyone know whether there's any truth that SPASH standout senior Pitcher/OF Cody Koback is going to Point next year? 
As far as I know, he has not made a decision as of yet.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 02, 2008, 06:27:41 pm
Former UW-Stevens Point pitcher Jordan Zimmermann promoted to AA Harrisburg today. Will report to the team on Monday. With the Potomac Nationals, Jordan was 3-1 with a 1.66 era.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2008, 06:24:14 pm
With all the scheduled DH's being pushed back from Friday/Saturday to Sunday/Monday what kind of effect do you think it will have on WIAC Tournament next week?

The top teams like Whitewater, Oshkosh, and Stevens Point will have to weigh how much the regular season crown is worth.  I would guess all three teams will throw their #1 and #2 on Sunday, so that they could all come back on Friday with four days rest, since all three teams will play two games Friday regardless of whether they win or lose.

Teams like La Crosse, Platteville, and Superior have no margin of error as they need to win every game possible just to get into the tournament.  They can't plan ahead, which means that #1 seed MAY be even more valuable as you may be facing a depleted #4 seed.

Thoughts???
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 03, 2008, 07:07:54 pm
With all the scheduled DH's being pushed back from Friday/Saturday to Sunday/Monday what kind of effect do you think it will have on WIAC Tournament next week?

The top teams like Whitewater, Oshkosh, and Stevens Point will have to weigh how much the regular season crown is worth.  I would guess all three teams will throw their #1 and #2 on Sunday, so that they could all come back on Friday with four days rest, since all three teams will play two games Friday regardless of whether they win or lose.

Teams like La Crosse, Platteville, and Superior have no margin of error as they need to win every game possible just to get into the tournament.  They can't plan ahead, which means that #1 seed MAY be even more valuable as you may be facing a depleted #4 seed.

Thoughts???
La Crosse already planned ahead by cancelling its DH against Lawrence at Fox Cities Stadium.
EDIT: I'm laying off the predictions for a while though. The horse I bet on today is now dead. That's enough of a sign for me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 04:33:52 pm
Whitewater knocks off Point in Game #1 of today's DH 12-10....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 04, 2008, 05:03:21 pm
Game 1: UWO 5, PV 1
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 04, 2008, 06:54:07 pm
Point lost the first game without Eric Fritz, Tim Schlosser, Stuart Larsen, and Ben Warwick.  Nothing like letting yourself, teammates, coaches, fans, and teammates down!!  I have to say this is the most upset I've been in years and am glad I didn't make the trip down there this weekend.  Sounds from talking to some people that Point easily should've won the first game regardless and may take the 2nd game.  All Point fans can hope is the suspended guys play tomorrow and they sweep.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 07:06:21 pm
If Ripon returned anything of the team they had last year, they are pretty good.
That is the problem......

Ripon needed to replace SIX First Team All MWC selections, which included the entire middle of the infield at C, SS, and 2B.  They also need to replace 2007 MWC Player of the Year Jordan Baitinger (who threw the no-hitter at Regionals) along with one of their other top pitchers Greg Basthemer.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 04, 2008, 07:30:34 pm
Well looks like ripon finally played how everyone has been waiting for all year. Stevens Point needs to something with their remaining games or might find themselves in Ripons position where they need the tourney championship to get in.

CSS won their 12th straight UMAC title today after sweeping Bethany Lutheran. Finish regular season 29-4 most likely will receive a pool B bid barring any catastrophe in their conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 08:12:46 pm
WIAC Standings (Through 5/4)
*Whitewater 18-4
*Oshkosh 17-5
*Stevens Point 16-6
La Crosse 10-12
Platteville 9-13
Superior 4-18
Stout 4-20

5/4 Results
La Crosse 5
Superior 2

La Crosse 8
Superior 3

Oshkosh 5
Platteville 1

Platteville 12
Oshkosh 6

Whitewater 12
Stevens Point 10

Stevens Point 14
Whitewater 6

-So things aren't really any more clear than before the day started, as all three of the top teams have a chance at a piece of the WIAC Regular Season Title, and both Platteville and La Crosse are still fighting for the last spot.

-If Whitewater wins ONE game tomorrow they clinch a share of the WIAC Regular Season Title.  If they win both, they win it outright.

-If Oshkosh sweeps Platteville, they could get a share of the title with one Whitewater loss, or win it outright with a Point sweep.

-If Point sweeps Whitewater, they could get a share of the title ONLY if Platteville beats Oshkosh one time tomorrow.

-If La Crosse sweeps Superior tomorrow, they get the #4 seed in the WIAC Tournament.  If they split, still get the #4 seed as long as Platteville doesn't sweep Oshkosh.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 08:22:31 pm
Couple of things that crossed my mind.....

-When is the last time you have seen a UWO pitcher walk in three runs and allow another run to score on a wild pitch in an inning?  Perelwitz did it today in Platteville's five run 1st inning.  Ususally Lechnir will have someone else in before that....

-What I don't get is why Rayn Demmin didn't start Game #2 today for Oshkosh.  I figured it would be Hendricks and Demmin for sure today, since they would be likely to throw on Friday in the WIAC Tournament. 

Does this mean we may see Oshkosh start Rubens on Friday?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 04, 2008, 08:40:47 pm
Three or four Stevens Point players were suspended for today's double hitter because of an incident at their hotel Saturday night.  I'm not sure of the all the details but rumor has Hooters, hot women and alcohol involved.   Some of them were starters.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 04, 2008, 08:58:26 pm
Well I hope they actually sealed the deal because they blew winning a conference title over it.  Odds are they win both today with all their starters.  Now they will have to win the WIAC tournament just to get in regionals.  I've heard Point has a 24 hour rule before games with alcohol so I'm assuming that's why they were suspended.  Hot Hooter chicks in your Hotel room is priceless though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2008, 10:13:49 pm
Hmm....  I figured I would be able to read who won the WIAC Softball Tournament Championship when I came on here tonight....  Guess not...  Must mean that Whitewater didn't win it, because otherwise we'd have heard from a couple of different posters..... ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 04, 2008, 10:15:17 pm
Now I know why the policeman was taken behind the left field fence in the WW/SP game today  :D...

However, the most entertaining portion of the Point-Whitewater nightcap was the gamesmanship by both sides after Pointers coach Pat Bloom was ejected in the top of the fourth inning after disputing a call that a Stevens Point runner had left second base early while trying to advance on a fly-out.

After being ejected, Bloom left the dugout and took a seat on the grass behind the leftfield fence. Whitewater coach John Vodenlich said that when he was ejected from a home game several years ago he was ordered to leave the stadium.


http://blogs.jsonline.com/statecolleges/archive/2008/05/04/pointers-lose-coach-gain-split.aspx
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 04, 2008, 10:37:44 pm
Leave home for five hours and come home to find out Platteville beat Oshkosh, Ripon got swept at home, Knox will host the MWC tourney, Bloom blew a gasket, some of the Point and Whitewater top pitchers got lit up,  and the Pointers turned into the Minnesota Vikings. It's like the Truman Show up in here. Some of that can't be real.

All sorts of WIAC and MWC drama, and Oshkosh wasn't even a part of the juiciest stuff this weekend ... seriously, how great do we have it with Midwest D-III baseball?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2008, 02:33:46 am
Three or four Stevens Point players were suspended for today's double hitter because of an incident at their hotel Saturday night.  I'm not sure of the all the details but rumor has Hooters, hot women and alcohol involved.   Some of them were starters.
You talking about the players or the women?
Sorry, there are too many bad jokes in my head right now. If I didn't write at least one, I couldn't live with myself.

LET'S GO POINTERS *clap clap clap*
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2008, 09:32:42 am
ATTENTION

WHITEWATER did not win the conference softball tournament.  Oshkosh did.

Three WIAC teams received bids to play in the NCAA tournament.  WHITEWATER, Eau Claire and Oshkosh

That is all. 



I didn't think Bloom's confrontation with the base umpire was that bad.  He did follow him around a bit and was giving him an ear full but it didn't seem to warrant ejection.  Of course I have no idea just what he said.  What was just as funny was that after being asked to leave Bloom very slowly began walking around around the outfield fence taking the long, long way around.  I lost track of him in center field so I'm not sure where he ended up.   Maybe he sat in the bus with the suspended players. ;);) 

You have to give him credit for handling the situation like he did right before perhaps the most important series of his season and I suspect making the suspended players spend the afternoon sitting on the bus really drove home the message.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: balco on May 05, 2008, 02:07:15 pm
Any updates on the WW baseball games today so far?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2008, 02:12:12 pm
All I've heard is the Point suspended players are sitting on their bus without the windows open and it's 80 degrees outside.  It's one thing to suspend the guys which I totally agree with but to treat them like jail inmates because they got a little tail and had a few beers is wrong.  I think not getting to play towards a conference championship is a pretty big punishment in itself seeing 3 of the guys are seniors.  The game is on 106.5 and the internet but I cannot get it on my work computer.  An inning by inning update would be awesome.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2008, 03:47:18 pm
Here's what I got....

Oshkosh Leads Platteville 10-2 in the 8th inning

Whitewater leads Point 5-3 in the 6th inning

La Crosse leads Superior 2-1 in the 8th inning

So.... If everything holds:
La Crosse is the #4 seed
Stevens Point is the #3 seed

#1 and #2 still dependent on what happens in Game #2 in Whitewater and Platteville.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 03:57:36 pm
Here's what I got....

Oshkosh Leads Platteville 10-2 in the 8th inning

Whitewater leads Point 5-3 in the 6th inning

La Crosse leads Superior 2-1 in the 8th inning

So.... If everything holds:
La Crosse is the #4 seed
Stevens Point is the #3 seed

#1 and #2 still dependent on what happens in Game #2 in Whitewater and Platteville.

Nice updates
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2008, 04:39:06 pm
Points season is all but over after getting embarrassed 13-3 today in game 1.  Don't see them taking the conference tournament either without Zimmerman.  The suspended players really screwed the season for Point.  Winning 3 out of 4 they may have had a chance at a Pool C.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 05:50:11 pm
Points season is all but over after getting embarrassed 13-3 today in game 1.  Don't see them taking the conference tournament either without Zimmerman.  The suspended players really screwed the season for Point.  Winning 3 out of 4 they may have had a chance at a Pool C.

Looks like Stevens Point may have played their way out of a pool C bid
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 05, 2008, 05:51:16 pm
Never count any of those teams in the WIAC tourney out!
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Post by: ShineTime on May 05, 2008, 06:08:42 pm
To top it off their was a major collision in the outfield with Schiedler and Archambeau.  Schiedler may have a broken nose and Archambeau was hurt pretty bad and had to leave the game.  Either way Point is screwed with Larsen, Schlosser, and Fritz not seeing live pitching for over a week before the WIAC tourney.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Bloom not even play those guys on Friday. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 08:32:53 pm
Well looks like Point will most likely have to beat UWW/Oshkosh 3 times in the tourney to make the regional after losing 3 out of 4 to UWW.

St. Olaf has to be pretty happy right now.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 05, 2008, 09:23:25 pm
For what it's worth the rumor around the ballpark was that Bloom had the team vote on whether to allow the suspended players to play today and they sat on the bus. 

Aaron Dott was tough in game one going all 8 innings allowing 6 hits and striking out 11.  He was supported by 14 hits including two home runs from Kevin Zalnis and single home runs by Billy Johnson and Joe Munn.  Zalnis was 4x5 with 5 RBI. 

Mike Jacobson got the win in game two going 5 innings.  Jason Hooper finished up in his longest stint since Flordia.  Tied 3-3 after the first inning the WARHAWKS scored 9 unanswered and despite a 4 run sixth inning by the Pointer remained in control.  Jordan Stine homered and Munn went 4X5 with 2 RBI.  One of the more interesting things happened when Munn fell to his knees after catching a flyball on the warning track in right field and then threw the ball to the diamond on the fly from his knees preventing the base runner from advancing from second to third.  

It's been an incredible year to be a WARHAWK GUY.  With this conference championship we've won all six of what could be considered the conference's feature sports (football, volleyball, men and women's basketball, softball and baseball).  I have to wonder when the last time that was done may have been.

The collison was nasty and everyone was glad to see both players stand and remain in the game afterward though as already noted Archambeau was substituted for at his next at bat.   I'm not sure who caught the fly but they did a remarkable job to hold on to it.

As long as the conference tournament is played at Stevens Point South you can't count them out.  Speaking of which, this will be the last year the conference tournament will be played in Wisconsin Rapids.  Next year it's scheduled for Oshkosh North on the high school field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2008, 09:31:21 pm
Now that the WIAC Regular season is over, what are people's thoughts on the Pitcher of the Year and Position Player of the Year this season?

I think Jeremy Rubens locked up the Pitcher of the Year award today, improving to 9-1, (along with 7 saves) with an ERA just over 2.00.  When asked to start this year, he had 4 complete game victories in four starts, which included both Whitewater and Stevens Point.  (Pretty good percentage huh?  ;D)

As far as the Position Player of the Year, it's pretty hard to argue with the numbers that Doug Coe put up.  He is in the Top 3 in just about EVERY major offensive category.  

Anyone objections?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 09:57:16 pm
Now that the WIAC Regular season is over, what are people's thoughts on the Pitcher of the Year and Position Player of the Year this season?

I think Jeremy Rubens locked up the Pitcher of the Year award today, improving to 9-1, (along with 7 saves) with an ERA just over 2.00.  When asked to start this year, he had 4 complete game victories in four starts, which included both Whitewater and Stevens Point.  (Pretty good percentage huh?  ;D)

As far as the Position Player of the Year, it's pretty hard to argue with the numbers that Doug Coe put up.  He is in the Top 3 in just about EVERY major offensive category.  

Anyone objections?

I pretty sure its only conference stats that go towards the conference player and pitcher of the year so make sure you keep that in mind. With that said, you are probably right on with those choices
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 05, 2008, 10:12:49 pm
Now that the WIAC Regular season is over, what are people's thoughts on the Pitcher of the Year and Position Player of the Year this season?

I think Jeremy Rubens locked up the Pitcher of the Year award today, improving to 9-1, (along with 7 saves) with an ERA just over 2.00.  When asked to start this year, he had 4 complete game victories in four starts, which included both Whitewater and Stevens Point.  (Pretty good percentage huh?  ;D)

As far as the Position Player of the Year, it's pretty hard to argue with the numbers that Doug Coe put up.  He is in the Top 3 in just about EVERY major offensive category.  

Anyone objections?
I pretty sure its only conference stats that go towards the conference player and pitcher of the year so make sure you keep that in mind. With that said, you are probably right on with those choices
Nope.... it's overall stats.  Take a look at the write-ups from previous seasons. 

For example, Seth Maier was the Position Player of the Year last season, and he had 7 HR's on the season in the write-up.  When you look at his final stats, it also shows 7 HR's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 10:26:06 pm
Now that the WIAC Regular season is over, what are people's thoughts on the Pitcher of the Year and Position Player of the Year this season?

I think Jeremy Rubens locked up the Pitcher of the Year award today, improving to 9-1, (along with 7 saves) with an ERA just over 2.00.  When asked to start this year, he had 4 complete game victories in four starts, which included both Whitewater and Stevens Point.  (Pretty good percentage huh?  ;D)

As far as the Position Player of the Year, it's pretty hard to argue with the numbers that Doug Coe put up.  He is in the Top 3 in just about EVERY major offensive category.  

Anyone objections?
I pretty sure its only conference stats that go towards the conference player and pitcher of the year so make sure you keep that in mind. With that said, you are probably right on with those choices
Nope.... it's overall stats.  Take a look at the write-ups from previous seasons. 

For example, Seth Maier was the Position Player of the Year last season, and he had 7 HR's on the season in the write-up.  When you look at his final stats, it also shows 7 HR's.

My mistake then!

Just know some conferences use only conference stats, which makes sense
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2008, 11:01:44 pm
Agree on Rubens and Coe. In fact, I don't ever recall a more clear-cut year for both position player and pitcher of the year. Maybe one or the other in some/most years, but off the top of my head I can't think of one. I'd be shocked if Coe and Rube were not chosen.

How about Point and Olaf? Any chance Point is in the new regional rankings over the Oles?

Also think it's clear that Whitewater will be No. 1. I think St. Thomas will be second, followed by Oshkosh, St. Olaf and St. Scholastica, although StO and CSS could be reversed without a gripe from me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 05, 2008, 11:17:41 pm
I would bet it went
1. UWW
2. UST
3. UWO
4. CSS
5. STO Hasnt done enough to move past CSS or CSS hasnt done anything bad to be passed.

Norbert or Ripon will get the last spot, Point stuck at home watching. Point could throw a wrench into everything if they win the conference tourney then I would think Olaf wouldnt make it, another reason why I think they would be 5.

Another scenerio to think about: What if Point and Olaf both win conference tourney might be unlikely but may happen. CSS might be left out of the regional or if Oshkosh loses first 2 games they could be in that mix.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 05, 2008, 11:35:27 pm
I would bet it went
1. UWW
2. UST
3. UWO
4. CSS
5. STO Hasnt done enough to move past CSS or CSS hasnt done anything bad to be passed.

Norbert or Ripon will get the last spot, Point stuck at home watching. Point could throw a wrench into everything if they win the conference tourney then I would think Olaf wouldnt make it, another reason why I think they would be 5.

Another scenerio to think about: What if Point and Olaf both win conference tourney might be unlikely but may happen. CSS might be left out of the regional or if Oshkosh loses first 2 games they could be in that mix.
If that happens, I think UWO stays home. I highly doubt three WIAC teams get bids (I included a bit of trivia in the forthcoming blog about the MW conference tourneys: last time three WIAC teams got bids was 1998. The system has drastically changed in recent years, but still a relevant fact).

Whitewater would get a Pool C before Oshkosh (thanks, Platteville and Superior). I think Olaf would have to go 2-and-out as well for UWO to get a bid in that scenario.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 01:45:26 am
Congrats to WW for being WIAC Champs. It is obvious that Point did not put the best team on the field the last 2 days. Tourney time starts on Friday, so hopefully everyone is playing their best players. No one should be thowing their #4 pitcher with so much on the line. How will Point rebound from the events of the last 2 days? Seems like the downward spin started after the brawl in Oshkosh. Point could be limping into the playoffs, but you just never know. To all the Oshkosh fans, sorry but if Point doesn't win, I have to pull for Whitewater. Their fans treated the Pointer fans better, and can't forget about the brawl and losing Garrett Bloom for the rest of the season. Not to mention how the suspensions may have affected the team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 06, 2008, 06:28:08 am
It appears one of the suspended players was a freshman. I'm thinking if my team voted against me playing, I'm looking for a new team to play for next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 06, 2008, 09:28:23 am
The paper is kind of late to this story, but Duluth wrote about UW-Superior's Andre Berenguer (http://www.verizon.net/newsroom/portals/newsroom.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=newsroom_portal_page_mlb_article&_article=961913).

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 06, 2008, 09:51:39 am
I can live with Coe and Rubens.  Our best challengers are Johnson (perhaps Prather) and Dominick but when you look at the numbers overall Coe and Rubens have the edge.   I think we'll have our share of all conference players and perhaps coach of the year.  

It's hard to say how the Pointer might react to this whole situation.   Assuming that the team was close before this happened it wouldn't surprise me to see them rally around it and look like a different group this weekend but if they weren't to begin with this isn't going to help matters.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 06, 2008, 11:58:07 am
It appears one of the suspended players was a freshman. I'm thinking if my team voted against me playing, I'm looking for a new team to play for next year.
If the team has rules and the players on the team support the enforcement and consequences of breaking those rules, that's a team I'd be proud to be a part of.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 06, 2008, 12:26:13 pm
It appears one of the suspended players was a freshman. I'm thinking if my team voted against me playing, I'm looking for a new team to play for next year.
If the team has rules and the players on the team support the enforcement and consequences of breaking those rules, that's a team I'd be proud to be a part of.

If there was a vote, that would seem that the coach left the door open for them to play. The guys must not be liked or respected by their team mates. I don't see how else you could take it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 06, 2008, 12:29:51 pm
I take it as the players had enough respect for the guys who didn't break the rules, to enforce punishment on the guys who did.  I'm sure the rule-breakers didn't like it, but then they shouldn't have broken the rules.  If a suspended player would like to transfer to a program with no accountability to your teammates, then by all means, please go.

Assuming team rules were broken, as a Point fan I'd be far more disappointed if they let them play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: xyz123 on May 06, 2008, 12:43:24 pm
Agreed Just Bill.  If you have rules, you better follow them, or why have them?

This discussion came up with the wife last night and she was of the opinion that most coaches, given the situation, would find some excuse or way around any team rule to have their best players available for these big time games.  I think its extrememly impressive that they stuck with their team rules and enforced their suspensions. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 06, 2008, 01:26:24 pm
Maybe what I don't understand is that if the rule was that they couldn't play, why would you have a vote. Wouldn't it be cut and dried? Having a vote tells me the rule allowed for them to play, and the players said no. Maybe someone can explain it so even a dope like me can understand. I don't condone breaking or even bending rules, I just have never heard of rules being voted on before.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballboy on May 06, 2008, 02:27:25 pm
I think the benefit of having a vote is that then they are directly disciplined by their teammates, which has more power and meaning than just having consequences of a rule. I do not believe that they are disliked or not respected, but rather that their teammates respect those who do follow the rules. I have a greater respect for Pointers coach now, as I am reminded that D3 athletics (and athletics in general) are not only about winning the game, but about creating an environment that helps young adults mature into successful people later in life.

In regards to the comment of xyz123, I agree with the wife that in many cases the coach would find an excuse, but those would primarily be in positions where the only goal for the team (and the coach) is to win (IMO). I am glad to see that the coach, program, and team were able to see that some things are more important than winning. And my hope is that those individuals learned a valuable lesson about accountability that undoubtedly will remain with them forever. I hope they accept the challenge to stay at that school, and work to earn the respect of their teammates, and their coach back (and I hope that their teammates and friends allow them the chance to earn that respect, and not just blame them for their season). Besides, you never know what is the one thing that may pull a team together in order to make a run to the big dance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 06, 2008, 02:50:34 pm
Agreed Just Bill.  If you have rules, you better follow them, or why have them?

This discussion came up with the wife last night and she was of the opinion that most coaches, given the situation, would find some excuse or way around any team rule to have their best players available for these big time games.  I think its extrememly impressive that they stuck with their team rules and enforced their suspensions. 
Your wife is awesome she hit the nail on the head, but the fact that Coach Bloom put the punishment in the players hand is a harsher penalty then if he just says "you're done for the weekend" peer disaproval is a great motivator.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 03:19:34 pm
Former Pointer Jordan Zimmerman makes his AA debut tonight in Harrisburg, PA.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 06, 2008, 03:21:16 pm
Sounds like Bloom either got really lucky or had the votes (or the ears and minds of the leaders, who can influence the team) before the decision was passed to the team.

My question is, what would Bloom do had the players voted to allow them to play? What would that say about his authority or his team rules in general? I'm leaning toward he knew what the outcome of the vote would be. Like others said, it means more to be cast aside by teammates than your coach. Statement opportunity, statement made IMO.

That said, c'mon ... you can root for the Titans ;). There are some good folks who follow and play on that team.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 03:39:57 pm
Sounds like Bloom either got really lucky or had the votes (or the ears and minds of the leaders, who can influence the team) before the decision was passed to the team.

My question is, what would Bloom do had the players voted to allow them to play? What would that say about his authority or his team rules in general? I'm leaning toward he knew what the outcome of the vote would be. Like others said, it means more to be cast aside by teammates than your coach. Statement opportunity, statement made IMO.

That said, c'mon ... you can root for the Titans ;). There are some good folks who follow and play on that team.
Sorry Oshdude, you seem like a great person, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Fadness got a three game suspension and Bloom is done for the year(as I would think the kid from Superior). But Good Luck anyway to Oshkosh. May the best team win and hope everyone plays clean.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 06, 2008, 04:25:04 pm
And if you play dirty, please do so with Hooters girls.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 06, 2008, 07:27:29 pm
Agreed Just Bill.  If you have rules, you better follow them, or why have them?

This discussion came up with the wife last night and she was of the opinion that most coaches, given the situation, would find some excuse or way around any team rule to have their best players available for these big time games.  I think its extrememly impressive that they stuck with their team rules and enforced their suspensions. 

I would disagree with that but thats my own opinion hoping coaches would do that. I know I have benched my best player for acting out and I would like to think most coaches would do the same but just dont know if they would.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 06, 2008, 07:34:50 pm
Sorry Oshdude, you seem like a great person, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Fadness got a three game suspension and Bloom is done for the year(as I would think the kid from Superior).
Now in NO WAY am I trying to downplay the above incident, however some of you are making it sound like Bloom was this HUGE part of the Pointer team.  

He had a whopping four hits in 24 at-bats (good for a .167 BA) on the season, hadn't thrown out a base runner in six steal attempts, and for the most part started one out of every four games.  He was likely third on the depth chart behind Coe and Warwick and as the season winds down, his playing time would have probably been even more limited as coaches are more apt to put their top players out there on a more regular basis.

Now if this would have happened to Coe would it have been a bigger deal?  I hope not, however the loss would have been much more severe to the POinter's post-season chances.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 06, 2008, 11:45:29 pm
Sorry Oshdude, you seem like a great person, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Fadness got a three game suspension and Bloom is done for the year(as I would think the kid from Superior).
Now in NO WAY am I trying to downplay the above incident, however some of you are making it sound like Bloom was this HUGE part of the Pointer team.  

He had a whopping four hits in 24 at-bats (good for a .167 BA) on the season, hadn't thrown out a base runner in six steal attempts, and for the most part started one out of every four games.  He was likely third on the depth chart behind Coe and Warwick and as the season winds down, his playing time would have probably been even more limited as coaches are more apt to put their top players out there on a more regular basis.

Now if this would have happened to Coe would it have been a bigger deal?  I hope not, however the loss would have been much more severe to the POinter's post-season chances.
Yes, Bloom was number 3 on the depth chart, but he was still a part of the team. And he probably wouldn't have seen much playing time. And because Superior isn't in the playoffs, I guess that makes it okay to take out players that aren't a huge part of the team. And before you think I am picking on you I'm not.  No one has the right to intentionally injure a player from the other team, I don't care if it is a starter or a 4th stringer. The fact is Fadness is a key player, and he gets off with a 3 game suspension. And if this happened to Coe, you can bet it would have been a HUGE deal.
side note to Oshdude-cute response.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2008, 09:42:36 am
Sorry Oshdude, you seem like a great person, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Fadness got a three game suspension and Bloom is done for the year(as I would think the kid from Superior).
Now in NO WAY am I trying to downplay the above incident, however some of you are making it sound like Bloom was this HUGE part of the Pointer team.  

He had a whopping four hits in 24 at-bats (good for a .167 BA) on the season, hadn't thrown out a base runner in six steal attempts, and for the most part started one out of every four games.  He was likely third on the depth chart behind Coe and Warwick and as the season winds down, his playing time would have probably been even more limited as coaches are more apt to put their top players out there on a more regular basis.

Now if this would have happened to Coe would it have been a bigger deal?  I hope not, however the loss would have been much more severe to the POinter's post-season chances.
Yes, Bloom was number 3 on the depth chart, but he was still a part of the team. And he probably wouldn't have seen much playing time. And because Superior isn't in the playoffs, I guess that makes it okay to take out players that aren't a huge part of the team. And before you think I am picking on you I'm not.  No one has the right to intentionally injure a player from the other team, I don't care if it is a starter or a 4th stringer. The fact is Fadness is a key player, and he gets off with a 3 game suspension. And if this happened to Coe, you can bet it would have been a HUGE deal.
Once again, please don't put words in my mouth.....

Anyway, I think it is out of line for anyone to say that Fadness' intent was to injure someone on either play.  If it was, my guess is only Fadness and those close to him would know. 

Who is to say that his intent wasn't to break up a double play against Superior?  (I wasn't there so I don't know the exact situation.)  How is it any different from a play at 2nd base?  NCAA rules state the runner needs to slide right to the base, (there is no "still reach the bag rule" like there is in MLB.)  I've seen some pretty vicious slides at 2nd base over the years, and people weren't calling "bloody murder."  The middle infielders know they need to get "clear" of the runner if they want to get a throw off.  Wouldn't the same go for a catcher at home?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2008, 09:51:56 am


Now if this would have happened to Coe would it have been a bigger deal?  


I would pay to see Fadness try and take Coe out like he did Bloom and the kid from Superior.  It's just possible he may have been the one to end up with a broken bone this time.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2008, 10:35:56 am
I would pay to see Fadness try and take Coe out like he did Bloom and the kid from Superior.  It's just possible he may have been the one to end up with a broken bone this time.   ;)
Just like Former Whitewater Coach Doug Henry would probably end up with a broken hand if he took a swing and connected with Doug Coe huh.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: StealinHome on May 07, 2008, 10:47:41 am
I hear big Ken Kaiser is coming out of his forced retirement and will be umping in Rapids.  Any nonsense will result in body slams instead of ejections.   ;D ;)

May it be a civil tournament won on the field in a way that most all can get behind the team or teams that advance.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2008, 11:43:11 am
Just like Former Whitewater Coach Doug Henry would probably end up with a broken hand if he took a swing and connected with Doug Coe huh.....

Would you pay to see it?

Did you notice the ;), that means I was kidding.   How is the fighting, book keeping statistician anyway?  :D  ;)  I'm kidding again but I'll make it more obvious to you.

However Henry and Coe would certainly match up better than Fadness and Coe.  And clearly better than some book keeping, statiscian and Henry.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2008, 12:19:18 pm
Just like Former Whitewater Coach Doug Henry would probably end up with a broken hand if he took a swing and connected with Doug Coe huh.....
Would you pay to see it?

Did you notice the ;), that means I was kidding.   How is the fighting, book keeping statistician anyway?  :D  ;)  I'm kidding again but I'll make it more obvious to you.

However Henry and Coe would certainly match up better than Fadness and Coe.  And clearly better than some book keeping, statiscian and Henry. 
UWO's SID must be pretty quick to get from the pressbox to the field so quick, since he is the guy that does the book and keeps stats....

Anyway, I'd put my money on Coe over Henry, unless of course Henry grabs him from behind and gets a cheap shot on him....

I assumed you could tell I was kidding as well.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2008, 04:44:24 pm
I respect the decision coach Bloom made this past weekend not playing the 4 guys but does anyone have an update as to whether these guys will play Friday.  If not the game will be a **** show so I am hoping they are playing.  They will have a tough enough time beating a great team like Oshkosh the way it is.  I am assuming that they will be starting as Archambeau had a similar violation and had a 4 game suspension.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 07, 2008, 05:11:28 pm
I respect the decision coach Bloom made this past weekend not playing the 4 guys but does anyone have an update as to whether these guys will play Friday.  If not the game will be a **** show so I am hoping they are playing.  They will have a tough enough time beating a great team like Oshkosh the way it is.   I am assuming that they will be starting as Archambeau had a similar violation and had a 4 game suspension.
No jinxes please. I'll have to counter that one because I'm a superstitious dude.

The Pointers always win the big ones. I have no idea how Oshkosh can beat a proven tourney team like Point. I hope underdog Oshkosh can make a game of it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 07, 2008, 05:22:20 pm

No jinxes please. I'll have to counter that one because I'm a superstitious dude.

The Pointers always win the big ones. I have no idea how Oshkosh can beat a proven tourney team like Point. I hope underdog Oshkosh can make a game of it.

Haha

Well Its hard to look past Point considering their playoff success the past few years

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2008, 05:49:37 pm
If Point has all their regulars starting including Schlosser, Fritz, and Larsen they have a great chance to win against Oshkosh.  Without those guys the entire game I have a better chance of winning the Power Ball.  You can't replace experience and talent of those guys.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2008, 06:59:32 pm
I'm curious to see who is gonna start for Oshkosh....  Point absolutley "lit up" Demmin in their one victory during the regular season, and I would assume UWO is going to use Rubens the same way they did in the regular season.  That would leave Hendricks, a guy Point has not seen yet who has been pitching pretty well as of late.

Who takes the mound for the Pointers?  My guess is Kempf, as he really hasn't thrown against UWO, except for two innings of mop up duty.

Regardless, Friday can't get here quick enough....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2008, 07:30:03 pm
It's unpredictable what Oshkosh will do with Ruebens.  He just pitched a complete game against Platteville on Monday 2nd game which didn't make much sense.  I would've guessed they would've thrown him on Sunday to give him more time to rest for Friday.  It's not going to matter who pitches if Point's not at full strength.  Thrun has thrown way too much against Oshkosh so they can't use him.  I'm guessing they would use Thrun against Whitewater if they win the 1rst game since they absolutely smoked the ball against Kempf and Nix.  I know this is crazy but I may start Lorenz against Oshkosh.  The guy is solid and could probably give them 5-6 solid innings.  Look at the guys ERA and his stuff.  He throws some filthy stuff.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 08, 2008, 07:15:02 am
Here's an article mainly on UW-Whitewater baseball:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=748380
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2008, 09:16:08 am
Coach Bloom is "flummoxed."     ???

I don't know about you but I admit having to go to the dictionary to find out what that means. 
 
Stevens Point has won six of the ten conference tournaments and all three played in the Rapids.  I'd be more than surprised if the suspended players weren't back on the team.  It would seem the punishment they've already received would be sufficent.  If the team was close before I'd expect the fences to be mended, misdeeds forgiven and a team refocused on taking it's last shot.  After all while Bloom has shown that winning isn't everythng it is still pretty important in the minds of competitive athletes.  It isn't difficult to imagine a scenario in which the Point team would actually benefit from what has happened. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 12:19:37 pm
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball?  They already have a regional spot locked up as does Oshkosh.  The only way Point gets in is if they win and everyone who knows baseball knows the WIAC should get 3 in regionals.  Does anyone agree with me that this years Whitewater team is the best team in the WIAC in quite some time?  I have to give them an edge even over Point the past few seasons.  They have such a tough lineup and a lights out #1 in Dott and a pretty solid #2 in Dominick.  Look for them to place in the top 3 in Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2008, 12:38:14 pm
Does anyone agree with me that this years Whitewater team is the best team in the WIAC in quite some time?  I have to give them an edge even over Point the past few seasons.  They have such a tough lineup and a lights out #1 in Dott and a pretty solid #2 in Dominick.  Look for them to place in the top 3 in Appleton.
I don't think I would go that far.... 

Remember Whitewater and Oshkosh split their four game set during the regular season.  Both Rubens (9) and Hendricks (7.1) went deep into the game for Oshkosh wins, and Demmin (8 IP) left his start with the lead before Whitewater scored three runs off of Rubens in the bottom of the 9th.

Dott (7 IP) dominated Oshkosh in his start, however Domininck only made it four innings, and Jacobson got hit hard late in his start.  Of course for this match-up to take place Friday, both Oshkosh and Whitewater need to win their first game, and that is not going to be easy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 08, 2008, 01:02:42 pm
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball?  They already have a regional spot locked up as does Oshkosh.  The only way Point gets in is if they win and everyone who knows baseball knows the WIAC should get 3 in regionals.  Does anyone agree with me that this years Whitewater team is the best team in the WIAC in quite some time?  I have to give them an edge even over Point the past few seasons.  They have such a tough lineup and a lights out #1 in Dott and a pretty solid #2 in Dominick.  Look for them to place in the top 3 in Appleton.

If Oshkosh goes 2 and out, with STP winning the automatic bid, and if St Olaf gets the auto bid too Oshkosh could be staying home. Obviously all 3 of those things would happen but there is a possibility.

Depends on what you say is quite some time. 2005 had perhaps the 2 best teams in the nation. UWW won the national tournament and I thought if Point would of went they would of won it. UWW might have the best team in 3 years in the WIAC but I dont think they are as good as the UWW and STP teams in 2005.

UWW 45-7 Reinhard 12-0 Tomasiewicz 15-1
STP 38-11 Steve Wiczek 18HRs Chuck Brehm 14 HRs Ryan Jones 17HRs and a major leaguer in the making in Zimmerman

I wouldnt be already placing them in the top 3 at appleton already considering they havent even made it there yet. There will be 5 solid teams that will have something to say about that
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 08, 2008, 01:32:52 pm
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball?  They already have a regional spot locked up as does Oshkosh.  The only way Point gets in is if they win and everyone who knows baseball knows the WIAC should get 3 in regionals.  Does anyone agree with me that this years Whitewater team is the best team in the WIAC in quite some time?  I have to give them an edge even over Point the past few seasons.  They have such a tough lineup and a lights out #1 in Dott and a pretty solid #2 in Dominick.  Look for them to place in the top 3 in Appleton.

If Oshkosh goes 2 and out, with STP winning the automatic bid, and if St Olaf gets the auto bid too Oshkosh could be staying home. Obviously all 3 of those things would happen but there is a possibility.

Depends on what you say is quite some time. 2005 had perhaps the 2 best teams in the nation. UWW won the national tournament and I thought if Point would of went they would of won it. UWW might have the best team in 3 years in the WIAC but I dont think they are as good as the UWW and STP teams in 2005.

UWW 45-7 Reinhard 12-0 Tomasiewicz 15-1
STP 38-11 Steve Wiczek 18HRs Chuck Brehm 14 HRs Ryan Jones 17HRs and a major leaguer in the making in Zimmerman

I wouldnt be already placing them in the top 3 at appleton already considering they havent even made it there yet. There will be 5 solid teams that will have something to say about that
It very well could happen, but your logic is wrong. There can be more than 6 teams make the tournament. UWO will not be left out regardless. You would just see someone leave the midwest region for the central. The 500 mile rule would take affect and even CSS is eligible to move to the central according to the NCAA milage calculator, it is 491 miles from Rock Island Ill. (where the central is being held) to Duluth. I would think that the MWC champ and CSS would be the likely choice to move since I can't see the NCAA giving a single conference an oppurtunity to place 2 teams in the world series. Whoever would go would have an easier path to the series because as all of us know the Midwest Regional is the toughest path to the series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 08, 2008, 02:05:14 pm
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball? 


That's rhetorical, right?   

No way, no how.  If we don't show up and play our best ball we'll be beaten.   As far as having a NCAA bid locked up I wouldn't be so sure.   We were left out as defending national champions with 30 wins in 2006 so until we either win the automatic bid or have an at large in hand I wouldn't do any chicken counting.   

This is a pretty decent team but I'd have to agree that the 2005 team was probably a better one.   I've been following the baseball program for decades and I'd have to say the 2005 team is best I've seen. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 03:00:51 pm
Can Whitewater just show up this weekend and not play their best ball? 


That's rhetorical, right?   

No way, no how.  If we don't show up and play our best ball we'll be beaten.  As far as having a NCAA bid locked up I wouldn't be so sure.    We were left out as defending national champions with 30 wins in 2006 so until we either win the automatic bid or have an at large in hand I wouldn't do any chicken counting.   

This is a pretty decent team but I'd have to agree that the 2005 team was probably a better one.   I've been following the baseball program for decades and I'd have to say the 2005 team is best I've seen. 
Agreed. If anyone thinks their team has a bid locked up, I think you're wrong. Whitewater is in the best shape, but 2-and-out even puts WW at risk because there are scenarios where I think WW stays home. Ditto – even more so – for Oshkosh. Although the scenarios seem unlikely, there's a chance. Like BW wrote, Oshkosh and Whitewater have stayed home previous years in similar circumstances.

If La Crosse wins a game or more, especially the first Saturday elimination game (and they're very capable) if LAX is there, the scenarios come into play. Granted, a lot depends on St. Olaf as well.

If Point or La Crosse win this weekend, I think Oshkosh stays home, depending St. Olaf's results. If Whitewater wins it and UWO wins a game, I think Oshkosh is in.

Three teams are relatively safe in IMO: St. Thomas, WW and CSS. After the MWC adds one, it comes down to three teams (UWO, StO, UWSP) for two spots. As far as shipping MW teams, I think there are enough worthy Central teams to make that unlikely. And one of the three MW bubble teams will play itself out. It may become obvious which will be left out after this weekend, but one of UWO, StO or UWSP stays home IMO.

Of course we only have to wait a few days to find out, but if there's anyone relaxed over the safety of their team's bid, I wish I were you. In no way do I think Oshkosh has a bid wrapped up. If UWO wins a game, I'll feel safer.

As far as the best WIAC team in recent years, I'll take '05 Whitewater, and not only because the Hawks won the title. That team had everything. There were better '90s Oshkosh teams, but that WW team was awesome. I especially liked Teach, Gnatzig and Klaw. Gamers if there ever were gamers.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 08, 2008, 03:30:51 pm
Everyone is at risk, because you just don't what might happen nation-wide.  If there's a whole slew of upsets from Maine to Oregon, then every Pool C projection can be tossed out the window.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 08, 2008, 03:47:44 pm
New rankings say that USP is still the 5th best team in the region!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 08, 2008, 03:51:30 pm
As far as the best WIAC team in recent years, I'll take '05 Whitewater, and not only because the Hawks won the title. That team had everything. There were better '90s Oshkosh teams, but that WW team was awesome. I especially liked Teach, Gnatzig and Klaw. Gamers if there ever were gamers.
If I was going to go back to the 90's, I'd have a hard time overlooking the 1999 Oshkosh team (the infamous wood bat year.)  That team had six MLB draft picks, (five in 1999, which is still an NCAA Division III record, but starting 3B Jared Koutnik was drafted two years later) three of which were pitchers. 

They lost in the Regional championship 4-3 to an aluminum bat swinging St. Thomas team, who went on to finish as the National Runner-ups, losing to NC Wesleyan 1-0.  To this day, I still think if that team would have been swinging aluminum during the post-season, Oshkosh MAY have another National Championship in their trophy case. 

However, I guess we will never know.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 03:56:08 pm
New rankings say that USP is still the 5th best team in the region!
OWP and OOWP must be huge. Wonder if the extra win Olaf got yesterday does anything. Olaf's 20-6 has to be on the cusp.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 04:31:02 pm
Will Bloom pull his head out and play his best team tomorrow or is he going to gift wrap a win for Oshkosh?  Here is what I would do If I were coaching but I'm not so it means nothing.
1.  Brad Archambeau RF
2.  Justin Bushong SS
3.  Brad Frank 1B
4.  Doug Coe C
5.  Brandon Schiedler CF
6.  Eric Fritz DH
7.  Jared Surman LF
8.  Tim Schlosser 2B
9.  Stewart Larsen 3B
Pitching-  Travis Kempf.  Some may argue Nix but you never know if he'll be in the strike zone.  Odds are Oshkosh will throw Ruebens so you can't walk guys and give up cheap runs.  Rather would see Kempf throw it over the plate and get rocked than lose because of walks and erros.  Thrun has pitched too much against Oshkosh already and would have to pitch against Whitewater if their able to pull off the upset.  You could also argue Hojnacki in left after his performance over the weekend and Surman struggling a bit.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 04:35:59 pm
Will Bloom pull his head out and play his best team tomorrow or is he going to gift wrap a win for Oshkosh?  ...
C'mon, man. I'm running out of counter-jinxes.
Point is the best team I have ever seen.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 08, 2008, 04:39:45 pm
New rankings say that USP is still the 5th best team in the region!
OWP and OOWP must be huge. Wonder if the extra win Olaf got yesterday does anything. Olaf's 20-6 has to be on the cusp.

Could be that whoever advances the furthest in their tourney gets the last bid...its going to be interesting how this weekend goes and what teams get the phone call late sunday night!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 08, 2008, 07:39:49 pm
Predictions

Game 1  Whitewater 22  La Crosse 3 
Game 2  Oshkosh 13   Stevens Point 3
Game 3  Stevens Point  5  La Crosse 2  La Crosse Eliminated
Game 4  Whitewater 13  Oshkosh 8
Game 5  Oshkosh 9  Stevens Point 7  Point Eliminated
Game 6  Oshkosh 6  Whitewater 5
Championship  Whitewater 14  Oshkosh 11

MVP  Jordan Stine  Whitewater
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 08, 2008, 07:50:42 pm
Predictions

Game 1  Whitewater 22  La Crosse 3 
Game 2  Oshkosh 13   Stevens Point 3
Game 3  Stevens Point  5  La Crosse 2  La Crosse Eliminated
Game 4  Whitewater 13  Oshkosh 8
Game 5  Oshkosh 9  Stevens Point 7  Point Eliminated
Game 6  Oshkosh 6  Whitewater 5
Championship  Whitewater 14  Oshkosh 11

MVP  Jordan Stine  Whitewater
Killin' me, dude.
Game 2: Point 2,129, Oshkosh -19.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 09:46:54 am
So has anyone thought that La Crosse may start Greg Gibson against Whitewater today?  He held the Warhawks to 4 runs in 8 innings in the Eagle's 9-8 regular season victory.  Why not see if he has their number again?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on May 09, 2008, 11:38:39 am
Whitewater up 4-1 after 1 1/2.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 11:41:05 am
So has anyone thought that La Crosse may start Greg Gibson against Whitewater today?  He held the Warhawks to 4 runs in 8 innings in the Eagle's 9-8 regular season victory.  Why not see if he has their number again?
Guess I can answer my own question, as Gibson is indeed starting today against the Warhawks.  La Crosse has taken an early 1-0 lead, as Storm Gram hits the first of what I'm sure will be many HR's in the tournament off of Whitewater's Adam Dominick.

Whitewater answers with four runs of their own in the bottom of the first on three singles, a HBP, an error, a SAC fly, and an error.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 12:31:38 pm
It looks like La Crosse would rather be in a snowball fight than playing baseball today..... ;D

The Eagles have committed four errors through four innings, which have accounted for five unearned runs. 

Whitewater leads 8-3 after four complete innings.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on May 09, 2008, 02:01:36 pm
Thanks for the updates..
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 09, 2008, 02:20:36 pm
Appears from the box score that UWW is lucky to get the win. UWW was outhit 18-11 but LAC defense really gave the game away with 5 errors
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 03:11:36 pm
Third time's the charm for Thrun? And Point's panty partiers are in the lineup.
Hendricks on the mound for UWO. I like the Hendricks move, BTW.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 03:30:16 pm
I'm curious to see who is gonna start for Oshkosh....  Point absolutley "lit up" Demmin in their one victory during the regular season, and I would assume UWO is going to use Rubens the same way they did in the regular season.  That would leave Hendricks, a guy Point has not seen yet who has been pitching pretty well as of late.

Who takes the mound for the Pointers?  My guess is Kempf, as he really hasn't thrown against UWO, except for two innings of mop up duty.

Regardless, Friday can't get here quick enough....

Third time's the charm for Thrun? And Point's panty partiers are in the lineup.
Hendricks on the mound for UWO. I like the Hendricks move, BTW.
Well I guess one out of two isn't so bad......
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 03:31:41 pm
Coe with a 3-run HR to give Point an early 3-0 lead heading into the bottom of the third.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 04:09:11 pm
Point up 5-0 heading into the bottom of the 5th....

Scheidler and Bushong added solo HR's in the Top of the 5th....

Thrun has given up just three hits and one BB through four ininngs....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 04:15:08 pm
Been every half hour for me. It's 5-0, 5th inning.
Hendricks walking three dudes is unsettling. He usually pumps the zone. I guess Coe's bomb could have something to do with that. Shoulda hit him again, apparently.
The upside is Bushong hasn't committed an error yet. He or Stewie has at least one of them on the way.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 04:53:39 pm
Looks like Hendricks is just going to eat some innings in a loss since UWO's offense has just been brutal today.....

Point leads 8-0 heading into the Top of the 8th....

Thrun has given up just five hits through 7 innings...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 04:58:30 pm
Ugh. F'ing Point ;). Eh, at least Lilly beat Haren today. Not all is lost, I guess.
Ryno, Rube or young gun to start vs. LAX? I vote for Ryno with Rube against WW or SP (if LAX is willing to lose).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 09, 2008, 05:05:13 pm
I thought pitching Thrun was a good idea, not pitching Demmin bad idea but guess it doesnt matter when you cant score.

I could see them going with Demmin against LAX, but they cant afford to lose this game so I could see them using Rubens instead

Dott vs Kempf in the last game im guessing

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 05:09:16 pm
Ugh. F'ing Point ;). Eh, at least Lilly beat Haren today. Not all is lost, I guess.
Ryno, Rube or young gun to start vs. LAX? I vote for Ryno with Rube against WW or SP (if LAX is willing to lose).
Depends if Lechnir thinks they need to just win a game to get a Pool C bid, or they need to win the whole thing.  If he thinks they need to win the whole thing, you may see Perlewitz or Matson, who both gave up three runs or less in seven innings in their starts against La Crosse during the regular season.  It should be interesting to say the least!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 09, 2008, 05:25:58 pm
That would be pretty gutsy to not throw one of their top 2. Im pretty sure Demmin and Rubens will pitch especially after how well LAX hit in their first game. You would look pretty stupid going 0-2 and not throwing your 2 studs.

As long as STP doesnt win the whole thing, I think 1 win for UWO gets them in.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 05:31:33 pm
That would be pretty gutsy to not throw one of their top 2. Im pretty sure Demmin and Rubens will pitch especially after how well LAX hit in their first game. You would look pretty stupid going 0-2 and not throwing your 2 studs.

As long as STP doesnt win the whole thing, I think 1 win for UWO gets them in.
The last part has me the most concerned. There's something about the Pointers and postseason basebll.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 05:34:15 pm
Thrun has thrown way too much against Oshkosh so they can't use him.
Good thing Coach Bloom didn't listen to you on this one.....  Thrun goes out and gets a complete game victory giving up just five hits and stuffing the Oshkosh bats all day.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 09, 2008, 06:05:36 pm
Who would've thought Oshkosh would've gone up to bad and took some grade school cuts.  Fadness looked absoltely terrible today as did some of their other lefties.  How can you not start Reubens against Point with the success they've had?  Pretty questionable decision making on Lechnir's part.  Then to leave Hendricks in there when Point was rakin the way they were.  Thrun certainly was dealing today though but I am afraid Whitewater will have an easy time tonight with their lineup.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 06:15:13 pm
Who would've thought Oshkosh would've gone up to bad and took some grade school cuts.  Fadness looked absoltely terrible today as did some of their other lefties.  How can you not start Reubens against Point with the success they've had?  Pretty questionable decision making on Lechnir's part.  Then to leave Hendricks in there when Point was rakin the way they were.  Thrun certainly was dealing today though but I am afraid Whitewater will have an easy time tonight with their lineup.
I don't want to get in an argument with you, but honestly....

Why replace Hendricks in a tournament setting like they are in?  Since UWO's bats were brutal today and it looked like they were going to struggle to score, why wipe out an already thin pitching staff by going to your pen, especially when you know you have to win four games now to win the tournament.  Pretty logical if you ask me....  Let Hendricks take one for the team, and keep as many "bullets" as possible by not using the pen.

Secondly, take a look at Rubens three conference starts.  He has started the final game of all of those series so that he can be used in relief in previous games.  Why change things now?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 06:23:17 pm
Oshkosh 6
La Crosse 1   Top 3rd

Demmin hits a Grand Slam with two outs in the 2nd inning.....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 06:27:22 pm
Oshkosh 6
La Crosse 1   Top 3rd

Demmin hits a Grand Slam with two outs in the 2nd inning.....
Atta boy Bradley.
For a contrast to Rapids long ball, deep in the LEC tourney, there's a 0-0 game in 8th between Keene St. and ECSU. We don't usually get 0-0 games after the 1st inning of the early games.
Fun diversion for anyone interested.
http://livestats.prestosports.com/keene/bsb/baseball.html (http://livestats.prestosports.com/keene/bsb/baseball.html)

And Rockford/CUC is 1-1 in the 6th. I guess we're the only guerilla ballers to play in bandboxes at our tourney.
http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/livestats/baseball/xlive.htm (http://www.edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/livestats/baseball/xlive.htm)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 06:36:49 pm
I guess we're the only guerilla ballers to play in bandboxes at our tourney.
Well it would still be pretty similar if it went back to the old way and the Regular Season champ hosted....  Whitewater isn't exactly a "pitchers park" either....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 06:47:48 pm
Oshkosh 6
La Crosse 4   Top 4th

Michael Jack Schmidt with a 3-run HR in the bottom of the third inning....
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 07:02:59 pm
Oshkosh 7
La Crosse 4   Top 5th

Rubens enters in the Top of the 4th inning relieving Demmin
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 09, 2008, 07:27:26 pm
Thanks for the updates guys, keep them coming as long as you can.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 07:29:38 pm
Thanks for the updates guys, keep them coming as long as you can.
Just go here and hit refresh every 5 mins.
http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/wiac3.htm (http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/baseball/wiac3.htm)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 09:42:20 pm
Hmmm......  Oshkosh gets five hits total in their first game against Stevens Point, and then has two seperate players go 5x6 in their second game against La Crosse.   :-\

Brad Demmin goes 5x6 with five runs scored, 6 RBI's, 2 doubles and a HR, while teammate Blake Berger goes 5x6 with one run scored, 5 RBI's, 2 doubles and a HR.

Jeremy Rubens shows dominating stuff once again, coming in in relief of Ryan Demmin and going six innings giving up just 1 run on six hits.  Rubens has now won or saved 17 of Oshkosh's 29 victories.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 10:09:06 pm
Well, well, well......  What do we have here?  A pitchers duel?  Well I'll be....

Whitewater 1
Stevens Point 0    Top 5th

It would still be scoreless, but thank to a Stewart Larsen error, Whitewater is able to push across a run in the Top of the 4th inning on an RBI groundout from Mike Kenseth.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 10:32:32 pm
Whitewater 2
Stevens Point 1    Bottom 6th

-Point's Brad Frank breaks up Whitewater's Aaron Dott's no hitter with one out in the Bottom of 5th inning on a solo HR. 

-Whitewater's Matt Schliewe had a solo HR of his own in the Top of the 5th inning.

-Point's Travis Kempf has FIVE hit-by-pitches through six innings, on FIVE different hitters.  Surprisingly, NONE of those extra runners have scored!!!!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 10:37:34 pm
WHY IS DOTT STILL IN THERE? Three batters too many ... Frank RBI-single, Schlosser HR, Warwick HR. And now he's out ... Hooper on.

7-2 Point.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 10:54:18 pm
Stewie Larson had a throwing error to make things worse. Stine just got hit in the elbow. Warning issued. Bloom arguing ...
7-5 Point, Stine on 1B, Prather on 2B after two-run double, none out.
Gotta love WIAC baseball.

Zielke gets out of it.
7-5 Point, bottom 7.
Tune into the webcast ... 106.5 from WW Web site.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 09, 2008, 11:34:05 pm
Point wins, 7-5. I don't feel any better about an Oshkosh bid than I did yesterday.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 09, 2008, 11:39:23 pm
So what will the pitching match-up be tomorrow for Whitewater vs Oshkosh?  

I would think Whitewater would start either Jacobson or Munn.  As far as Oshkosh goes, I guess Perlewitz would probably get the start, but don't be surprised if Oshkosh uses about two or three other guys, including Matson (who threw 2.2 scoreless innings in relief against Whitewater during the regular season), Kuepper, and Leaman.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 10, 2008, 12:24:41 am
Reubens start and hopefully go 9 and Oshkosh wins and loses to Point in the title game.  Point gets automatic and Oshkosh and Whitewater still get regional bids with St. Olaf staying home.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 10, 2008, 12:34:17 am
I also think Rube starts. Or maybe Ryno, then a quick hook with Rube should Ryno warrant one.

The WW radio guys said Rube and Jake were the probables. I'd prefer to see Randy Johnson, but with so many UWO lefty bats, running out LHPs against UWO makes sense. Plus, Jake is a gutty senior. Gotta give him a shot.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 10, 2008, 11:14:58 am
Point wins, 7-5. I don't feel any better about an Oshkosh bid than I did yesterday.

Well I think they are still sitting ok, if Olaf gets 2 more wins could be a different story though
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 10, 2008, 10:48:55 pm
Well things couldn't have worked out better for WIAC fans as Point clinched the automatic berth and pretty much solidifed the WIAC getting 3 teams in the regional.  I have been researching and I would bet my savings and house that all 3 are in.  Any guesses on seeding or if Whitewater will not be in the Oshkosh regional?  Some observations from this weekends tournament are this:  If Nix is on for Point they can beat any team in D3.  Reason I make this statement is Whitewater had more success against Zimmerman last year than they did against Nix today and we all know where Zimmerman is.  I know this is going to probably piss Osh Dude off but I'm not trying to be a prick.  Oshkosh absolutely has to use Reubens as their #1 starter if they want to make the World Series.  If they can get another solid starter for next year they are going to have a great chance of winning the World Series.  Whitewater has a phenomenal offense along with pretty solid pitching.  They probably shouldn't have thrown Dominick for 145 pitches the other day especially when they have solid pitchers such as Hooper, Olsen, Rieck, and Jacobsen that can throw strikes off the bench.  I would say they are the best bet to advance to the World Series if they use their pitchers correctly.  I know I should just be happy that Point is in the regional but I can't stop thinking what if Point had Brandon Hemstead at 100% right now.  It seems every year Point has really bad luck and are 1 player away from having a chance.  Last year it was Coe and this year it is Hemstead.  Anyways, Good Luck to all WIAC teams that make it and as long as a WIAC team makes the Series I'm happy.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 11, 2008, 11:06:05 am
Well things couldn't have worked out better for WIAC fans as Point clinched the automatic berth and pretty much solidifed the WIAC getting 3 teams in the regional.  I have been researching and I would bet my savings and house that all 3 are in.  Any guesses on seeding or if Whitewater will not be in the Oshkosh regional?  Some observations from this weekends tournament are this:  If Nix is on for Point they can beat any team in D3.  Reason I make this statement is Whitewater had more success against Zimmerman last year than they did against Nix today and we all know where Zimmerman is.  I know this is going to probably piss Osh Dude off but I'm not trying to be a prick.  Oshkosh absolutely has to use Reubens as their #1 starter if they want to make the World Series.  If they can get another solid starter for next year they are going to have a great chance of winning the World Series.  Whitewater has a phenomenal offense along with pretty solid pitching.  They probably shouldn't have thrown Dominick for 145 pitches the other day especially when they have solid pitchers such as Hooper, Olsen, Rieck, and Jacobsen that can throw strikes off the bench.  I would say they are the best bet to advance to the World Series if they use their pitchers correctly.  I know I should just be happy that Point is in the regional but I can't stop thinking what if Point had Brandon Hemstead at 100% right now.  It seems every year Point has really bad luck and are 1 player away from having a chance.  Last year it was Coe and this year it is Hemstead.  Anyways, Good Luck to all WIAC teams that make it and as long as a WIAC team makes the Series I'm happy.

WIAC will most likely get 3 teams in and the team thats most in jeopardy is oshkosh rather than UWW (UWW regular season champ and advanced farther in tourney)

1. UWW
2. St. Thomas
3. Point
4. CSS
5. Oshkosh
6. Knox

that is assuming thomas beats olaf and somebody from the midwest doesnt get shipped out i.e. Knox or CSS (yea yea 500 rule but could happen)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on May 11, 2008, 11:16:55 am
Hello all,

Fun weekend in WIRapids...

But look at what I found on my Monster job search under the keyword baseball this morning:

Head Baseball Coach/Development Officer

The University of Wisconsin-La Crosse seeks a head baseball coach for 25% academic-year appointment and development officer for UW-L Foundation for the remaining 75%. Coaching responsibilities include all areas of oversight of the program including but not limited to: on and off-campus recruiting; program organization and planning; coaching and training student-athletes; developing game plans; staff management; and, involvement in team fundraising projects. The development officer will work in annual gift fundraising at the Leadership Club level. Reports directly to the president of the UW-L Foundation. Responsibilities include: identification, cultivation, solicitation and stewardship of high level annual donors of unrestricted gifts. Prior professional fundraising experience at a 4-year college or university, computer literacy, analytical experience and abilities in financial planning required. Desired qualifications: master’s degree, three years of prior coaching experience (some at college level), understanding of NCAA III mission and philosophy, and documented experience working in an institutional Foundation office. Sent letter of interest, current vita/resume, transcripts, and names and addresses of three current professional references to Larry Terry-Chair 09ATH01, UW-L, 1725 State St., 126 Mitchell Hall, La Crosse, WI 54601. Review of applications begins June 9, 2008 and continues until position is filled.

Any chance this is old news? I did not see anything on UW-LAX website about a resignation earlier in the year, etc.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2008, 01:13:23 pm
The specifics haven't been announced yet but the word around the Rapids was that WHITEWATER placed 8 players on the 20 player all conference team.  Coe and Stein were the finalists for position player of the year and Dominick and Ruebens for pitcher of the year.   Prather was announced as the Max Sprangler Scholar Athlete winner during the tournament.  WHITEWATER was proud to have five of the eight players nominated for the award.
 

Softball news: 
After three days all three WIAC schools remain alive.  WHITEWATER (to #1 ranked DePauw 6-5 in 8 innings) and Oshkosh (to EC 2-0) have one loss.  Eau Claire is undefeated.  Oshkosh will play St Thomas and the winner plays Eau Claire for the championship.  WHITEWATER meets Wartburg who they previously defeated 8-6 and that winner takes on DePauw for the championship.  The tournament is a double elimination format so it could extend to Monday before concluding.

 
 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 11, 2008, 04:52:19 pm

 

Softball news: 
After three days all three WIAC schools remain alive.  WHITEWATER (to #1 ranked DePauw 6-5 in 8 innings) and Oshkosh (to EC 2-0) have one loss.  Eau Claire is undefeated.  Oshkosh will play St Thomas and the winner plays Eau Claire for the championship.  WHITEWATER meets Wartburg who they previously defeated 8-6 and that winner takes on DePauw for the championship.  The tournament is a double elimination format so it could extend to Monday before concluding.

 
 

Dont care sorry
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 11, 2008, 08:01:08 pm
Then knowing that Eau Claire has advanced to the softball World Series by beating  Oshkosh 6-0 would be meaningless to you, right?   And WHITEWATER beating Wartburg 7-3 to advance to the championship game with DePauw wouldn't interest you either. 

Ok, I understand, no problem.   ;D

Never mind that they beat DePauw 2-1 in 9 innings to force another game tomorrow. I guess the fourth time is a charm. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: voice on May 11, 2008, 08:30:02 pm
I care ;D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 11, 2008, 10:32:19 pm
Me too.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 11, 2008, 10:39:20 pm
Make that three of us, although UWO over EC would have made it even more interesting for me.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on May 12, 2008, 08:05:00 am
Then knowing that Eau Claire has advanced to the softball World Series by beating  Oshkosh 6-0 would be meaningless to you, right?   And WHITEWATER beating Wartburg 7-3 to advance to the championship game with DePauw wouldn't interest you either. 

Ok, I understand, no problem.   ;D

Never mind that they beat DePauw 2-1 in 9 innings to force another game tomorrow. I guess the fourth time is a charm. 

Thanks BW..........
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2008, 01:22:14 pm
Three WARHAWKS have been named to the Academic All American team.  Ben Prather and Tom Corcoran were first team selections and Billy Johnson was named to the second team.  Congrats guys. 

http://www.uwwsports.com/News/baseball/2008/5/12/baseball051208_Academic_All_America.asp?path=baseball
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2008, 02:20:28 pm
Only read if you care...or are bored...or just can't help yourself.  ;)

WARHAWKS punch their ticket to the softball world series by beating #1 ranked DePauw 6-2 in eight innings.   Trailing 2-1 a Lauren Cruz 7th inning home run tied the game and the WARHAWKS plated 4 runs in the 8th ignited by back to back doubles and finished with a 3-run home run from Amanda LeBeau.

WIAC gets two in the field of eight.   8)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 12, 2008, 04:06:47 pm
2 WIAC teams in the World Series is impressive.  Good Luck to both teams at the Series and hopefully we will see 2 WIAC teams for baseball.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 13, 2008, 02:27:42 am
My all-WIAC first team while we wait for Wednesday. Tell me where I screwed up.

Jeremy Rubens, UWO (pitcher of the year)
Mike Thrun, Point
Adam Dominick, WW
Aaron Dott, WW
Travis Kempf, Point

Doug Coe, Point (player of the year)
Billy Johnson, WW
Brandon Scheidler, Point
Jordan Stine, WW
Brad Demmin, UWO
Kevin Zalnis, WW
Jeff Donovan, WW
Storm Gram, LAX
Nolan Fadness, UWO
Brad Frank, Point
Ben Prather, WW
Justin Bushong, Point
Kyle Kannenberg, UWO
Stew Larson, Point
Jason Fosler, UWO

There are a bunch of others who could easily make it, but I'll stick with these.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 13, 2008, 04:11:49 am
Your list looks fine to me, but I would be surprised to see anyone who was suspended during the season make it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2008, 09:31:09 am
I have a feeling Bennett will make it, even though his season may not "deserve" it.  Sometimes you will see a guy get the recognition because of his career numbers, even if his senior season wasn't that great.

Also, does Saufley from Superior make it as a Pitcher?  He was the Player of the Week twice this season, although he was just 1-3 with an ERA near 5.00 in WIAC play.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on May 13, 2008, 10:59:40 am
I cant remember if the WIAC only does WIAC stats or season stats. But your list looks pretty good.

I might add Sean Cummings though from UWS
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on May 13, 2008, 02:13:03 pm
I dont know about others but as far as UWS guys a little birdie told me:

Sean Cummings -2B 1st Team
Hostrawser and Saufley -P Honorable Mention
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on May 13, 2008, 02:37:22 pm
Not to sound too bitter, because it really doesnt matter at all, but maybe a little love for my season?

4th in ERA, 3rd in OPP BA, 11th in K's...  and thats with some pretty unlucky games, Point and WW, off the top of my head there was probably about 6 IF hits in the Point game alone.

That being said I dont have a problem with any of the pitchers OshDude named being 1st teamers if thats how it pans out.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on May 13, 2008, 03:59:18 pm
45, you had a great year. Would be no big surprise to see your name on there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 13, 2008, 04:22:27 pm
45, you had a great year. Would be no big surprise to see your name on there.
If Slinger's not there, he had to be very close. I only saw him once, but he was sharp that day. Based on my questionable list of pitchers (and hitters for that matter), and if there are 12 HM players again this year, Demmin, Lange and Hendricks are probably there. Add Saufley and Hostrawser and that may be as deep as the pitchers go. The proverbial odd men out look like Bouvine and Benitz. "Pitchers" not named Greg Maddux or Tom Glavine never get recognition for their skills. Saufley/Hostrawser vs. Bouvine? Based on numbers and the mere one game I saw them pitch, I'd go with Bouvine.

Don't know why I didn't think about suspended players, but I think you're right about that. Not that Cummings doesn't deserve it anyway – he does, and he was one of the five or so that I tried to fit on my list – but take Kanny and Fadness off there and Cummings makes my first team. Maybe the same for the coaches?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 13, 2008, 09:04:27 pm
I don't know about Stewart Larsen for Point on the team either.  To me a guy has to be able to hit and field and he can't do much fielding.  The guy can hit but is very streaky.  Isn't there another 3B more deserving or maybe there's not?  1 positive thing about Larsen is the energy he brings to the team.  He basically got benched in the WIAC final and still was the first one out of the dugout after every inning and encouraging his teammates.  He's definitely a top notch teammate in that regard.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 13, 2008, 10:20:54 pm
I don't know about Stewart Larsen for Point on the team either.  To me a guy has to be able to hit and field and he can't do much fielding.  The guy can hit but is very streaky.  Isn't there another 3B more deserving or maybe there's not?  1 positive thing about Larsen is the energy he brings to the team.  He basically got benched in the WIAC final and still was the first one out of the dugout after every inning and encouraging his teammates.  He's definitely a top notch teammate in that regard.
If you didn't know, the WIAC chooses the best hitters without regard to position.
Yeah, Larson is borderline. I sincerely like him though. He's caught a lot of crap from Oshkosh fans over the years, but I think the UWO fans all genuinely respect/like him. And his hotel slumber party probably hasn't hurt his rep as a fun guy to heckle.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2008, 01:43:23 pm
Jared Surman made 1rst team as an outfielder for Point but only got 1 at bat at the WIAC tournament.  Personally I think it's a joke that he's not in the lineup or at least used as a DH.  What more does the kid have to do?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2008, 01:55:19 pm
My all-WIAC first team while we wait for Wednesday. Tell me where I screwed up.

Jeremy Rubens, UWO (pitcher of the year)
Mike Thrun, Point
Adam Dominick, WW
Aaron Dott, WW

Travis Kempf, Point

Doug Coe, Point (player of the year)
Billy Johnson, WW
Brandon Scheidler, Point
Jordan Stine, WW
Brad Demmin, UWO
Kevin Zalnis, WW
Jeff Donovan, WW
Storm Gram, LAX
Nolan Fadness, UWO

Brad Frank, Point
Ben Prather, WW
Justin Bushong, Point
Kyle Kannenberg, UWO
Stew Larson, Point
Jason Fosler, UWO
Nice Work Oshdude!!!  All of the bolded guys made the All Conference team.  A little surprised at Dominick getting Pitcher of the Year over Rubens, although I am sure being a Senior didn't hurt Dominick's cause.

These were the guys you missed:
Ross Bennett-Platteville
Sean Cummings-Superior
Tom Corcoran-Whitewater
Joe Lange-Platteville
Jared Surman-Stevens Point

Three of the four Stevens Point guys you listed were Honorable Mention selections, with Larsen not receiving any mention.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 14, 2008, 05:18:08 pm
Linfield is broadcasting the UWSP/Linfield game:

http://secure.stretchinternet.com/demo/games.php?user=lin&o=cal_stamp&sd=1154415600

UWSP leads 1-0 in the 4th on a Brad Frank HR.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on May 14, 2008, 07:16:44 pm
Point takes step one in their quest for Appleton....

In the bottom of the tenth Point gets runners on second and third with one out following a sac bunt.  Linfield decides on an intentional walk to Schiedler to load the bases and set up the double play, even though it means facing Coe.  Coe responds with a RBI single to score the winning run. 

Point 2
Linfield 1   FINAL/10 innings

-Thrun goes 8.0+ solid innings, and Zielke comes in and gets out of two jams to get the win.

Point will now face the winner of Augustana/Wartburg tomorrow at 7:00 pm.

If you want to see some additional details, check the Midwest Regional thread.  I inadvertently posted updates over there on accident. :-[
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on May 14, 2008, 08:48:24 pm
I was surprised Linfield didn't throw their ace(Clark) but it really didn't matter and Point got very lucky to win.  They definitely pissed away some chances also but not like Linfield did.  I have to admit I thought it was over in the 9th. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 15, 2008, 01:58:25 am
My all-WIAC first team while we wait for Wednesday. Tell me where I screwed up.

Jeremy Rubens, UWO (pitcher of the year)
Mike Thrun, Point
Adam Dominick, WW
Aaron Dott, WW

Travis Kempf, Point

Doug Coe, Point (player of the year)
Billy Johnson, WW
Brandon Scheidler, Point
Jordan Stine, WW
Brad Demmin, UWO
Kevin Zalnis, WW
Jeff Donovan, WW
Storm Gram, LAX
Nolan Fadness, UWO

Brad Frank, Point
Ben Prather, WW
Justin Bushong, Point
Kyle Kannenberg, UWO
Stew Larson, Point
Jason Fosler, UWO
Nice Work Oshdude!!!  All of the bolded guys made the All Conference team.  A little surprised at Dominick getting Pitcher of the Year over Rubens, although I am sure being a Senior didn't hurt Dominick's cause.

These were the guys you missed:
Ross Bennett-Platteville
Sean Cummings-Superior
Tom Corcoran-Whitewater
Joe Lange-Platteville
Jared Surman-Stevens Point

Three of the four Stevens Point guys you listed were Honorable Mention selections, with Larsen not receiving any mention.
Ah, I just hit all the layups. I did better last year; I think I only missed one of 20.
Had a feeling I didn't get the 5th pitcher right ... so many logical options.

I can see Surman there, but he produced (a lot) in far fewer ABs than the other WIAC leaders. Prorate his numbers and I'd put him on there. Thought he was HM as it stands IMO.

No problems from me with the rest. Surprised at no Bushong, though. Judging from the ones I got wrong, apparently I'm a bigger fan of the Pointers than the coaches are. With all due respect, that's saying something.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 16, 2008, 04:26:13 pm
No third straight WS trip for UWSP.  Webster eliminates the Pointers today 9-7.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mr_b on May 16, 2008, 04:52:01 pm
No third straight WS trip for UWSP.  Webster eliminates the Pointers today 9-7.
Nice recovery for Webster after starting the season 0-7.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: KitchenSink on May 16, 2008, 04:52:49 pm
Bummer.  But that kid learned how to play some serious ball on that TV show...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: buf on May 18, 2008, 10:31:40 pm
Softball update:

EC is 3-0 so far and is in the championship game tomorrow after defeating the #1 ranked team today.

UWW lost its first game, but has since won 3 in a row.  If they win in the first game tomorrow, it will be an all-WIAC final.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 19, 2008, 10:07:10 am
Not to sound too bitter, because it really doesnt matter at all, but maybe a little love for my season?

4th in ERA, 3rd in OPP BA, 11th in K's...  and thats with some pretty unlucky games, Point and WW, off the top of my head there was probably about 6 IF hits in the Point game alone.

That being said I dont have a problem with any of the pitchers OshDude named being 1st teamers if thats how it pans out.

Wow, how about being a little humble. Also you need to take into account that you are not the best pitcher on your own staff. When you come in where UWS did in the standings you're not going to get the numbers on the all-conf team that might be deserving. Be happy with what your TEAM accomplished this season which should be any players focus. But give it a rest on tooting your own horn for a while, it's not fair to your teammates. If any award should go to UWS it should be to Coach Morgan for turning that program into something players such as yourself should be proud of. He is making great strides and hope to see him make another one next year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: buf on May 19, 2008, 01:26:28 pm
Softball update:

UWW hit a 2 out, 2 run homerun in the bottom of the 6th to defeat the #1 ranked team, 2-1, and thus advance to the national championship game against UWEC.

Ithaca, Muskingum, and Louisana college have all been swept by the two WIAC teams.  These teams were a combined 3-0 against other opponents in the championships.

Should be a good game between UWEC and UWW.  UWW needs to win today and tomorrow.  UWEC needs to win just one of two.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 19, 2008, 04:34:08 pm
Should be a good game between UWEC and UWW.  UWW needs to win today and tomorrow.  UWEC needs to win just one of two.

So, if EC wins today, they can play all the subs tomorrow?  ??? ;D :D :P
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: buf on May 19, 2008, 04:44:09 pm
Should be a good game between UWEC and UWW.  UWW needs to win today and tomorrow.  UWEC needs to win just one of two.

So, if EC wins today, they can play all the subs tomorrow?  ??? ;D :D :P

I guess so ;D.  Actually they just won in extra innings, 4-3 in 9 innings, over UWW.  Jahnke hit a 2-out solo HR.  In the bottom of the 7th, with EC down 3-1 and with 2 out and nobody on base, EC rallied to tie the game and send it into the extra frames.

Congrats to EC on their national championship!

Congrats to UWW on a great season.

And finally congrats to the WIAC in fielding 2 teams in the national championship.  Its the first time in softball that 2 conference teams have met in the championship game.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on May 19, 2008, 04:58:18 pm
And finally congrats to the WIAC in fielding 2 teams in the national championship.  Its the first time in softball that 2 conference teams have met in the championship game.

I wonder how often that happens in ANY D-III sport.  It's probably happened in ice hockey, but there's a lot fewer schools playing hockey.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 19, 2008, 05:08:58 pm
Darn, we had it but a fielding error sent the game to extra innings and EC did to us what we've done to so many others this season, hit a home run. 

Congrats Eau Claire and WARHAWKS.  You've made the WIAC and your fans proud.  It would have been great to force a game 15 but I guess national runner up isn't a bad thing to settle for.

The WARHAWKS conclude the season with a team and conference record 68 home runs.  The NCAA record is 72 held by St Thomas.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 19, 2008, 10:51:29 pm
Stevens Point beat River Falls in the '93 Championship in St. Thomas, MN, I believe.  I just know it was in Minnesota because we went to the Mall of America!

I'm guessing Stevens Point beat St. Thomas in the 2nd semi final.  River Falls beat Plattsburgh, I think.  The funny thing was, River Falls was just 14-13 or something like that and Plattsburgh had a great record coming in.  Point beat River Falls in OT, still have it on tape!

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on May 19, 2008, 11:12:50 pm
from the WIAC site:

The matchup between the Blugolds and Warhawks represented the third time in WIAC history two schools have met for the national championship - in any sport.  The previous national title meetings were in men’s ice hockey with UW-Stevens Point beating UW-River Falls in 1993 and the UW-River Falls upending UW-Superior in 1994.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on May 21, 2008, 09:13:54 am
Just want to say congrats to Doug Coe for being named to the D3baseball.com 2nd team All-America Team.  Kind of shocked that he is the only player from the WIAC to get any all-american honors.  I thought for sure Jeremy Rubens from Oshkosh deserved HM to say the least, he had some unbelievable numbers, maybe if he would have pitched at all in regionals he would've.  Unless he had a sore arm, he should've started against St. Thomas.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 21, 2008, 09:29:59 am
Congrats to Coe and good luck to him.   Though I have to admit I'm glad to see him graduate.  ;D

We all wondered why Rubens wasn't used.  If he was available it just seemed odd not to use him in game two.   If he wasn't you have to wonder what impact the way he was used in the regular season may have played in it.   I don't profess to know and I'm not second guessing anyone but I admit to being curious.  ;)
Title: conduct
Post by: bighitter on May 24, 2008, 10:16:25 am
now that the season is over for the rest of the wiac teams, i'm supposed to cheer for the warhawks at the world series and hope that they represent the conference well. after the way my wife and i were treated at whitewater this year,  that  will be difficult to do. a comment from this old coach to all wiac fans, go to the games to cheer for your team. don't go there to harass and insult the other teams players. these are college players not professionals and their family is there to watch them. the ww players showed some class in the wiac tourney when they returned to the field to shake hands after a loss when their coach refused to. coach vodenlich, there is something called "good sportsmanship", you might have heard of it. i hope that in the future the ww athletic director will attend more games and observe the conduct of his coach and some of the fans. maybe then there will no longer be a need for the peace officers at all ww home games. wiac baseball is the best and the warhawks have a great team of fine young men. i wish them good luck in the world series.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Z71Warhawk on May 24, 2008, 11:23:35 am
I was at the Linfield V UW-W and the group of guys I was around tipped their hats to the Linfield team.... They played great and congrats to them.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 25, 2008, 09:51:59 pm
What are you talking about Bighitter, I personally witnessed Coach Vodenlich shake Coach Bloom's hand following the WIAC tournament loss.  It happened right in front of me.   Get your facts straight before you go around calling someone's sportsmanship to task.  I can tell you some story about fans from other programs if you think something is unique to WW.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: batboy on May 26, 2008, 05:02:22 pm
there were only two players that were waiting to shake stevens points hands after the WIAC tourney championship game.  coach vodenlich was not going to shake hands, but the boos and embarassment got to him and he finally gave in and pointed his players out to the home plate area to shook points hands.  WW has been known for doing this crap, it happened in the WIAC tourney in 2005 against SP also.  Their coach has a chip on his shoulder and thinks he is too good to shake hands after some games.  He shouldn't have to be booed and practically forced to do it, it should be automatic.  Because of this behavior by him, I know for a fact that some recruits have chose not to go there.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 26, 2008, 08:05:20 pm
Congrats to Whitewater for the outstanding job of representing the WIAC in the World Series. As I said before they were the right team to represent the WIAC this year. Zalnis had an amazing series and the rest of the Warhawks gave everthing they had, enjoy your summer and will look forward to seeing you next spring.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 27, 2008, 09:31:47 am
Yes it's true.  It did take us roughly 30 seconds or so to assemble following the Point loss and Point fans did boo us for not lining up quickly enough for them.   But if you think it was embarassment you're giving yourselves far too much credit.    I have seen Voldenlich shake hands after games countless number of times and the assertion by bighitter that he failed to do so following the game is absolutely untrue.

One thing I know for a fact is that with two 40(+) win seasons, four conference championships, two national third place finishes and a national championship in the five years Voldenlich has been the head coach at WW  he is doing pretty well with the recruits he does get. 

Thanks sz, we did our best but losing on day one and having to come back through the loser's bracket got the better of us.   Enjoy your summer.

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: bighitter on May 28, 2008, 11:11:13 pm
Always happy to see a WIAC team do well each year and this year it was WW's turn to represent the conference in the world series and they did a great job. Congrats to the WW players on a great season. Some already solid teams returning next year with many fine recruits that I have heard about early. So, looks like another great year coming for the conference and I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: hh131 on May 29, 2008, 10:26:54 am
Speaking of recruits.....does anyone know of any WIAC recruits?  It's always fun watching future WIAC players during the current WIAA tourney.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: formman on May 29, 2008, 07:54:17 pm
Being from MN I can tell you that there are a number of parents and players that are starting to hear about the WIAC.

With the increased costs of MIAC schools the UW system seems to be a really good deal. I know that this year almost half of the starters for La Crosse were MN kids. I have not checked out Stout.

Superior gets Mpls Washburn H.S. best player next year.
UWW has one of the better players in the past few years from Mpls Southwest.
Title: WIAC Next Year
Post by: ShineTime on May 29, 2008, 09:28:23 pm
I think it's pretty much a given that Oshkosh and Whitewater will battle for the WIAC title and both teams will have good chances at winning the world series.  I would have to give the edge to Oshkosh next year but I think a key for them will be making Rubens a starter.  Point should still be top 4 but I don't think they will be a contender for the title or be a factor come regionals.  Can someone give a prediction for each teams lineup come next Spring or talk about any possible transfers/recruits each school may be getting?  I think Superior is actually going to finish top 4 next year based on what they have returning.

I will take a stab at Points lineup but am probably way off the mark.
1.  Eric Fritz  SS
2.  Brad Archambeau  1B
3.  Sam Spurney  RF
4.  Jared Surman LF
5.  Cody Koback  CF
6.  Aaron Heiden 3B
7.  Garrett Bloom DH
8.  Consadine  C
9.  Matt Johnson/ Seth McClullen 2B

Pitching staff should be 1. Nix 2. Delorit 3. Hemstead(If Healthy) 4. Williams.  Zielke should be a pretty dominant closer again.  Hoeschele, Kouba, and Lorenz will all hopefully improve.  If anyone has heard of any transfers or big time recruits to Point can you please post?  I am just guessing Koback is going to Point but am not 100% sure.  I think Point will have a lot of holes next year unless they have an outstanding recruiting class.  They will definitely need some new guys that can rake.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 29, 2008, 11:14:20 pm
I disagree on Rubens. I think Oshkosh used him very effectively this season. You can either run a guy out there once a week or use him in spots nearly every game. I'll take the latter. Plus, besides regionals Rubens always got the big starts as well. I'll take that scenario every time. In fact, I'm surprised more teams do not use their top Ps like Lechnir does. It's been successful the last two years with Gerl and Rubens, who expanded on Gerl's role to include the biggest starts.

With so many returners, I have no idea what the UWO lineup will be. There will be a lot of competition, that's for sure. UWO adds another Jirschele, and I'm sure a few other nice recruits, and returns a healthy Mickey Fadness. That hitting depth will be a welcome change after UWO struggled with the bats at the end of the year.

Next year I hope the WIAC moves to a slow-pitch softball lineup with 10 batters. Have not been able to say that at UWO in a while.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 30, 2008, 01:11:15 am
Oshdude
   Got to disagree about the use of Ruebens like he was used this year. For whatever reason he was unavailable for the regional tournament. I think having him available would have made a difference for Oshkosh. Neither Gerl nor Ruebens were a factor in helping Oshkosh get to the promised land. I would rather have 4 solid pitchers and a relief specialist as opposed to a guy that gets run out to pitch all the time. It looks good for making all conference, etc. But you want to win at the end of the season when it counts. Doesn't do a lot of good if he is great throughout the regular season and is unable to pitch when you really need him at tournament time. So I will say that using him like Lechnir did was a big mistake. He is very talented and I would hate to see something go wrong and end a possible great career at Oshkosh. Whitewater had the right idea and they finished 3rd in the nation. Point had the potential but not the drive that it needed. That's just my thought on the subject though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 30, 2008, 05:32:22 pm
Oshdude
   Got to disagree about the use of Ruebens like he was used this year. For whatever reason he was unavailable for the regional tournament. I think having him available would have made a difference for Oshkosh. Neither Gerl nor Ruebens were a factor in helping Oshkosh get to the promised land. I would rather have 4 solid pitchers and a relief specialist as opposed to a guy that gets run out to pitch all the time. It looks good for making all conference, etc. But you want to win at the end of the season when it counts. Doesn't do a lot of good if he is great throughout the regular season and is unable to pitch when you really need him at tournament time. So I will say that using him like Lechnir did was a big mistake. He is very talented and I would hate to see something go wrong and end a possible great career at Oshkosh. Whitewater had the right idea and they finished 3rd in the nation. Point had the potential but not the drive that it needed. That's just my thought on the subject though.

Your reasoning is short-sighted. Oshkosh would not have won the regional with a win over St. Thomas or Carthage. The gamble was to get through UST with a committee (if needed) and have a mismatch with Rube in the next game. It obviously didn't work and the result was 0-2, but in hindsight that UST game was lost on a check-swing blooper, a 10-hopper and Lonnie Robinson. Would Rube have shut out UST, like would have been necessary? Maybe, but I doubt it. The regional was probably lost after the CC game. Hard to get through a tourney after starting 0-1. But after that loss, do you try to map out a strategy to win the whole thing or try to get one win? I agree that the winning strategy was to save Rube and hope for the best against UST. Burning Rube by throwing him against Robinson is the same as conceding the regional IMO.
 
Whitewater did well because it had better pitching and better hitting than UWO (and almost every other team, for that matter). UWO got one bad inning from Ryno thus a loss, a well-pitched game from a committee but a loss to a sharper Robinson and nearly zero hitting in either game. If UWO wins either of those games, Rube throws in a possible mismatch in Game 3 (4-6 IP) and is in the consolation driver's seat with Rube available the rest of the way. That's how UWO had to play it to win. After that loss in the opener, it was boom or bust. UWO went bust, but I understand the gamble.

And getting to the promised land had more to do with Gerl and Rubens. Suggesting that how they were used was the reason behind not reaching the finals is not fair. They were a huge part in getting to where UWO ended. Oshkosh just wasn't good enough to get to the finals. Placing the blame on how Rubens was used doesn't make any sense. Take a step back from the final UWO overall team result and tell me how Lechnir used Rubens over the course of the season was anything short of genius. Then tell me how many games you think UWO would have won in using Rube as a starter for more than the biggest games of the year, which he did start and did win most of them.

There's a good chance that you will never see the reasoning my way, but try. Using Rube nearly every game is nontraditional and very effective if you give it a chance.

What does the bolded part mean?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: supermiac on May 30, 2008, 05:39:25 pm
Hm... maybe they should have used their ace against Carthage then...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 30, 2008, 05:52:39 pm
Hm... maybe they should have used their ace against Carthage then...

Lol ... like I wrote, I probably won't convince anyone ...

Demmin was their "ace" starter. Having Acevado face a LHP makes sense, no? Point being, if Ryno couldn't beat CC (his best matchup) UWO wasn't going to win the regional. Ryno didn't. UWO didn't. Burning Rube in one game, whether it be against Husing or Robinson, probably was not a good idea. I think people are under the impression that UWO had four awesome, consistent SPs.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on May 30, 2008, 07:01:52 pm
Have to agree with Oshdude on this one. At some point the guys that pitched that weren't Rueben, would have had to. I believe Lechnir thought that they were going to out score UST even with L Ron pitching. If that game is a close situation I am 1000% sure Ruebens would have been on the mound. And then been able to pitch again later in the tourney. Lechnir wasn't hoping for a miracle he was hoping for guys to get through the line up a time or two and hopefully have a chance to win with Ruebens and still be able to use him.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: dukes on May 30, 2008, 08:04:24 pm
In my opinion UWO should have taken a different approach to the tournament in general. The way it was set up, if they lose, they have to play the winner of the 1v6 matchup. Being they didnt have 4 quality pitchers who could win a regional game, so you say, they should have went with a committee in the first game. If you win, you still have your top 2 to get you to the championship. If you lose, you have your top guys to face St. Thomas as it was. They had a good lineup because realistically even if they would lose the first game, they only had to win 3 to win the tourney.

And I agree with the fact that you play to win the tourney, not just a game here or there. Look at the way that St. Scholastica used their pitching staff. Throw one of your top 2 against UWW, lost. Throw about you number 5 or 6 against the number 6 team and pretty much pitch by committee. If they lost that, you would be saying the same thing that they didnt use a major league prospect in the tourney, but they played to win.

As far as the way he was used all year, that is a bit debatable. There are pros in cons to it both ways. On the one hand, yes, Ruebens did get them many wins in big situations throughout the year. On the other hand, perhaps it would have been more beneficial if someone else could have proven they could get a bit win during the year, build some character and confidence, and then be able to step up and win a regional. If whenever you have a big game, or big situation, your top dog pitches so you get the win, then what is the attitude when he is not pitching?


I would hate to see something go wrong and end a possible great career at Oshkosh.

And I am just assuming, but I think the point that is made by this is injury. You train your body a certain way, to be able to endure a certain type of stress. The way it sounds he was used goes against some of that logic. I was the same way...I could throw every day if it was a big game, but it is a coaches responsibility to be aware of that. Just because he seems like he has a rubber arm, doesnt mean he does...
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WLCALUM83 on May 30, 2008, 09:10:30 pm
Doug Coe saw some action with the Windy City Thunderbolts, going 1 for 3 in his debut:

http://www.frontierleague.com/2008scores/wcy5290.html
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: supermiac on May 30, 2008, 09:18:53 pm
Hm... maybe they should have used their ace against Carthage then...

Lol ... like I wrote, I probably won't convince anyone ...

Demmin was their "ace" starter. Having Acevado face a LHP makes sense, no? Point being, if Ryno couldn't beat CC (his best matchup) UWO wasn't going to win the regional. Ryno didn't. UWO didn't. Burning Rube in one game, whether it be against Husing or Robinson, probably was not a good idea. I think people are under the impression that UWO had four awesome, consistent SPs.
No I completely understand that UWO wasn't as deep as other teams in the regional in terms of pitching. Yet, when everything is added up in the end, Ruebens was not used for a single inning. It must be very unsettling not only for Ruebens AND his teammates knowing that their supposed "ace" (which is what I've been hearing all year) was not given a chance. You can't simply "play for next year" come playoff time. What great disadvantage is it for Osh Kosh to pitch their #3-5 in the 3rd game anyways? It's certainly better than sitting at home watching the next round. Again, I fully understand the risk Lechnir was taking by not pitching him; but that doesn't make it right. There were several instances in the first two games for UWO when they could have used Ruebens to try to shut down Carthage and USt. They could have used him in the 3rd inning (I think) against CC, when Carthage piled up several runs. And they could have used him in the last 3 innings against USt to prevent them from scoring any insurance runs. Nonetheless, after hearing so much about him, I was disappointed not to be able to see him pitch.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on May 30, 2008, 10:33:01 pm
Nonetheless, after hearing so much about him, I was disappointed not to be able to see him pitch.
You can always head to next year's regionals ... on the rest, we can agree to disagree, I guess.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on May 31, 2008, 01:33:15 am
Oshdude
  Not sure how that part got into bold. It was not intentional. I would just hate to see him develope any type of injury, because i think is VERY good. The point is that if Ruebens was used so much throughout the season, he should have been able to pitch in the regional. He pitched back to back days in the WIAC, so why was the regional different? And I agree that WW had the solid hitting and good pitching to get to the World Series. That is the point I was trying to make. They didn't just rely on 1 pitcher most of the time. It still is a team sport and you need to have a well balanced team to be successful. Jordan Zimmermann was a huge part of Point's team last year, but he also swung a mean bat. There were still 4 other pitchers on the team that contributed wins though, thus it was not just the Jordan Zimmermann show. Oshkosh still is one of the top 3 teams in the WIAC and I don't see that changing anytime soon. We have the right to disagree, just need to look at both sides. The last 4 appearances in the WS have been between WW and Point. Outside of WW relying on just 2 pitchers when they won it all in 2005, it seems that the 2 teams have relied on at least 4 good pitchers(at least through regionals). And I didn't mean to say that not using Gerl or Ruebens in the regional was the reason UWO lost. But if so much is based on their performances, I don't think that is fair either. Obviously there were other factors at play in UWO's lack of success.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 31, 2008, 09:03:54 am
I didn't think Oshkosh's pitching was really the problem in the regional tournament.  They could have won with the pitching they got.  But when your teammates hit .167 and score 4 runs in two games even the best pitchers may not be enough.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Downtown on June 04, 2008, 10:18:12 am
I'm just wondering if people really thought Oshkosh could win the regional?

Cause last time I checked, on how the last 3 years have went, if its Play-Off time and its a UW-Oshkosh Men's athletic team they're probably not going to win...

I can't explain what is going on when Oshkosh teams have as much talent (or in some sports, more) and don't even come close to the success as Whitewater. Grr.

Maybe that explains why we finished 4th in both the Men's and Women's athletic WIAC scores and 5th overall.

Wait... 4th + 4th = 5th?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 04, 2008, 11:51:29 am
It isn't that difficult to figure out how 4th + 4th = 5th, Downtown.

Here's how it works.  In men's sports they score 9 sports but use on the top 5 for each school because not all schools have programs in all 9 sports.  In women's sports they score 10 sports and use 7 for the same reason. 

4th + 4th = 5th because the LaCrosse men (3rd) outscored your men (4th) by 3.5 points and your women (4th) only outscored LaCrosse (5th) by .5 point.  Consequently when you add the two, LaCrosse moves ahead of you in the overall standings by 3 points.   

I can see why you slipped to only a regional winner in your senior year.  :D  ;) ;)  j/k


 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on June 04, 2008, 01:46:30 pm
Nice to see a little Warhawk, Titan banter. I believe Oshkosh certainly could have won that regional. Whitewater was strong though, it would have taken a lot of offense to compete with them. Oshkosh will be the team to beat next year! Returning everyone, but Hendricks. That is a good start to any season. Also they get Fadness back behind the plate which certainly won't hurt defensively or on the offense side.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 04, 2008, 03:57:02 pm
I doubt, hitting .167, that they could have.   Had they hit like they did during the regular season it might have been a different story.  But they didn't and it killed them.   The pitching was good enough to win if it had had some support.

 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on June 06, 2008, 02:38:30 pm
I'm just wondering if people really thought Oshkosh could win the regional?

Cause last time I checked, on how the last 3 years have went, if its Play-Off time and its a UW-Oshkosh Men's athletic team they're probably not going to win...

I can't explain what is going on when Oshkosh teams have as much talent (or in some sports, more) and don't even come close to the success as Whitewater. Grr.
Name a sport where Oshkosh has had more talent than a fellow WIAC team....  They had the least amount of pitching of the top three teams in the WIAC this season, yet were still in the race for a WIAC Title up until the last week of the season.

It gets REALLY annoying listening to you continually cry about UWO's lack of post-season success.  If you don't like it, than stop watching!!!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on June 06, 2008, 07:51:17 pm
Only three guys from Wisconsin were selected this year.

St. Norbert SS Adam Frost, 21st round to the Tigers.
West Bend East HS 3B Paul Hoenecke, 42nd round to the Tigers.
Arkansas-Little Rock LHP Steve Gilgenbach, 47th round to the Royals.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on June 06, 2008, 11:24:29 pm
There are four WIAC games to air on FSN Wisconsin this month. I remember a few cameras at the "Collision Game," so that could be the UWSP/UWO contest. It would give everyone a chance to see it for themselves instead of hearing the tall tales it has spawned. Hope that's the case.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-La Crosse
Monday, June 9--7 p.m.

UW-Stevens Point vs. UW-Oshkosh
Monday, June 16--7 p.m.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Saturday, June 21--Noon

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Thursday, June 26--7 p.m.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 07, 2008, 12:58:46 am
There are four WIAC games to air on FSN Wisconsin this month. I remember a few cameras at the "Collision Game," so that could be the UWSP/UWO contest. It would give everyone a chance to see it for themselves instead of hearing the tall tales it has spawned. Hope that's the case.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-La Crosse
Monday, June 9--7 p.m.

UW-Stevens Point vs. UW-Oshkosh
Monday, June 16--7 p.m.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Saturday, June 21--Noon

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Thursday, June 26--7 p.m.

I believe these are the games from the WIAC tournament. Remember hearing at the tournament that the games would be televised in June on FSN.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on June 07, 2008, 01:08:45 am
There are four WIAC games to air on FSN Wisconsin this month. I remember a few cameras at the "Collision Game," so that could be the UWSP/UWO contest. It would give everyone a chance to see it for themselves instead of hearing the tall tales it has spawned. Hope that's the case.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-La Crosse
Monday, June 9--7 p.m.

UW-Stevens Point vs. UW-Oshkosh
Monday, June 16--7 p.m.

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Saturday, June 21--Noon

UW-Whitewater vs. UW-Stevens Point
Thursday, June 26--7 p.m.

I believe these are the games from the WIAC tournament. Remember hearing at the tournament that the games would be televised in June on FSN.
Makes sense. Bummer, then. Anyone see the "Collision Game" on FSN earlier in the year?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 21, 2008, 11:12:22 pm
Congrats to Aaron Dott for throwing a NO-Hitter on Wednseday for the LaCrosse Loggers. Surprised no one from WW posted this.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Barber Greene on June 24, 2008, 12:45:05 pm
Congrats to Aaron Dott for throwing a NO-Hitter on Wednseday for the LaCrosse Loggers. Surprised no one from WW posted this.

Thanks for the heads up...here is the story

Dott Makes Logger History vs. Bullfrogs


By Gregg Hoffmann

(Green Bay, WI)Aaron Dott made history last week for the Loggers, and by doing so also earned the team’s Player of the Week honor.

Dott pitched the first no-hitter in team history, with a 6-1 win over the Green Bay Bullfrogs last Wednesday.

“It’s something I’ve never done before in my life,” said the  UW-Whitewater lefthander. “It’s very exciting.”

Dott surrendered seven walks and struck out four en route to the victory. He improved to 1-1 on the year.

“I didn’t really have my best stuff,” Dott said. “I was a little wild. My velocity was a little off. Of 134 pitches, I threw only four breaking balls. But, I was able to make pitches when I had to.

“I was able to throw a strike when I needed to. I also was able to get some batters to hit to the left side a couple times so the runner couldn’t advance. My teammates made the plays when they had to.”

The no-hitter was the latest in what already has been an exciting baseball season for Dott. He helped the Warhawks win the WIAC tournament this spring and played in the NCAA Division 3 World Series in Grand Chute.


http://www.lacrosseloggers.com/content/team/team_news?news_id=44
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 24, 2008, 04:00:32 pm
Dott really has the potential to be very, very good and a professional prospect.   
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on June 25, 2008, 12:05:36 pm
Sorry, but POINT WON the WIAC Tournament.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on June 26, 2008, 08:42:36 am
Artificial turf approved for UW-Whitewater’s baseball diamond ....

http://www.gazettextra.com/weblogs/latest-news/2008/jun/26/artificial-turf-approved-uw-whitewaters-baseball-d/

Although Prucha Field is probably as nice as any other baseball facility in the league with the turf and the other improvements slated it will be a first class facility once completed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on July 15, 2008, 08:06:27 pm
Aaron Dott pitched .2 inning in the recent Northwoods League All-Star game.  After giving up a lead off walk Dott coaxed the next hitter into a groundout doubleplay.  Each team used 12 pitchers with only a few throwing a complete inning.  The South was victorious 8-4 in the game played in Madison.  Major league scouts were all over the place.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 17, 2008, 10:07:03 pm
UWSP announced their recruiting class this past week and it looks rather impressive.  However, I don't see them getting ahead of Oshkosh and Whitewater this year based on the experience they return.  Point will have plenty of depth at all positions including the outfield and Cody Koback should fill in nice in CF.  Looks like they also have some solid junior transfers and Mike Blizel of Sturgeon Bay won legion player of the year.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on August 26, 2008, 03:52:59 pm
UWSP announced their recruiting class this past week and it looks rather impressive.  However, I don't see them getting ahead of Oshkosh and Whitewater this year based on the experience they return.  Point will have plenty of depth at all positions including the outfield and Cody Koback should fill in nice in CF.  Looks like they also have some solid junior transfers and Mike Blizel of Sturgeon Bay won legion player of the year.
You may be able to add another All State performer to that list as well......

Rumor going around is that West De Pere's Brent Kakwitch has decided to change his mind and enroll at Point now instead of Oshkosh.  If this is the case, look for him to step right in and start on the infield for the Pointer's next season if this is indeed true.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on August 27, 2008, 11:37:11 pm
Due to a change in the schedule for the Rock River League Grand Championship Jeff Zielke(UWSP) will not get to pitch in the Championship Series for the Clyman Canners.
He was 13-0 with 8 CG  108 IP 107Ks  10 BB  1.00 ERA   16 runs  13 ER 
t
The Canners record is currently 20-2 heading into the Championship series. He
also got a chance to pitch for the Madison Mallards at the end of the regular season. Threw a complete game, gave up 6 hits, struck out 6, walked 1 and gave up 2 earned runs against the Battle Creek Bombers in Michigan. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ShineTime on August 29, 2008, 08:20:59 pm
Is Zielke going to be a starter or remain closer for Point this year?  I would say it depends on whether or not Hemstead is 100% as Zielke is so valuable as a closer.  If the West De Pere kid also comes to Point I think that may sway my decision on whether Point can win conference.  They are going to be loaded this year as well as Whitewater and Oshkosh.  One concern I have with Oshkosh is their starting pitching against quality teams.   After Rubens what are they going to have?  Point has Nix who I consider a shutdown pitcher and I think Delorit will be in the status this year also.  Their offense should be at the top again or near.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on September 01, 2008, 11:19:32 pm
My guess is Zielke will remain the closer. Hasn't made any difference with the stats he throws during the summer the last couple of years. No doubt he can handle the role of closer. I know a lot of his former and current summer  teammates don't understand why he doesn't start, but being able to pitch when called upon is the most important thing. Don't see him cracking the starting rotation with the recruits Point has coming in. Scott Williams and Luke Hoeschele also pitched well this summer in the Rock River League. Got to like Point's pitching top to bottom. Agree that Oshkosh could be suspect after Ruebens. Only about 7 months til the season gets under way.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BoBo on October 20, 2008, 08:10:00 am
Former Pointer Jordan Zimmermann named Nationals Top Minor League Pitcher (http://www.waow.com/Global/story.asp?S=9061542&nav=menu1360_4).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: mwunder on October 26, 2008, 11:08:31 pm
He's also been named the 17th highest ranked prospect in the game by none other than John Sickels for the end of the 2008 season.


17.) Jordan Zimmermann
Major sleeper alert.  Zimmermann could shoot into the 2010 Top 10 with another season like his 2009.  He looks very, very polished, and posted the Eastern League's third lowest opposing batting average.  I want to see more.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: WIAC follower on November 04, 2008, 03:23:06 pm
hey everyone,
I know it is early but I was wondering who you all thought would get the fourth spot for the conference tournament this year? 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on November 04, 2008, 05:34:21 pm
I think it will be UW Superior
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 06, 2008, 01:12:36 pm
I am going to have to say lax..

UWO
UWW
UWSP
UWL


same as last year
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 06, 2008, 04:28:13 pm
Until Superior proves it on the field, I am not certain that I can give them the nod at the #4 spot either. Too many years of finishing at the bottom of the WIAC to consider that they may not be there again, let alone leapfrog a few other teams in the process.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 08, 2008, 08:28:32 pm
whos going to win it?  any predictions?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on November 10, 2008, 10:12:45 am
whos going to win it?  any predictions?


The WARHAWKS   :D
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 10, 2008, 11:30:32 am
whos going to win it?  any predictions?

My predictions:

1. Oshkosh
2. Whitewater
3. Steven Point
4. Stout
5. Superior
6. La Crosse
7. Platteville

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 10, 2008, 01:59:31 pm
whos going to win it?  any predictions?

suprised by the superior over lax...other than that i agree
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on November 10, 2008, 05:57:04 pm
Subject to change, of course, but right now I like:
1. Oshkosh
2. Whitewater
3. Stevens Point
4. Superior
5. La Crosse
6. Stout
7. Platteville
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on November 10, 2008, 10:30:32 pm
Glad im not the only one who thinks UWS will slip in there for the 4th spot

Think oshkosh should be on top this year, but never know with how good the wiac is
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: szlongball on November 14, 2008, 11:13:49 am
Jeff Zielke was voted the Outstanding Pitcher of the Year for the Southern Division in the Rock River League. No one else was even considered for the award.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 16, 2008, 04:10:58 pm
oshkosh will have 4 pitchers this year throwing over 87...and two of those over 90...should be a good starting rotation
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on November 16, 2008, 09:54:30 pm
oshkosh will have 4 pitchers this year throwing over 87...and two of those over 90...should be a good starting rotation

I like pitchers who throw hard, but does not matter if its all they have or is 90 without movement or 90 and out of the zone. Just trying to make a point thats not the only thing that matters cuz the top teams in every region have a couple guys who throw upper 80s.

That being said I do agree with you that Oshkosh will have a good rotation.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on November 16, 2008, 10:24:19 pm
oshkosh will have 4 pitchers this year throwing over 87...and two of those over 90...should be a good starting rotation
1. Rubens
2. R. Demmin
3. Kannenberg
4. ???

Am I close?

Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan20 on November 17, 2008, 04:37:30 pm
you are right on...a freshman..brandon lenz hit 87 on scout day...
and for the movement, rubens is known as well is ryan d to have movement...kanny has good stuff and lenz is getting there.  if all goes well and they stay healthy, should be an exciting year
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on November 25, 2008, 05:53:55 pm
I heard that Whitewater had a Freshman hit 92 or 93 on scout day. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on November 26, 2008, 09:25:11 am
I heard that Whitewater had a Freshman hit 92 or 93 on scout day. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

My sources place it at 90 on a gun that may not be as accurate as reported. The gun had not been calibrated in about 2-3 years.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on November 28, 2008, 03:04:05 pm
i heard he topped 88 with a crow hop and a mighty tail wind
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on November 30, 2008, 08:01:31 pm
I heard that Multiple Guns at scout day had him in the low 90's.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 04:32:31 pm
I was only joking around!...well if you heard that then you must know who it is, so please share!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on December 01, 2008, 09:55:41 pm
I didn't get a name so i was hoping that someone else may have heard and knows who it is?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Jack Parkman on December 01, 2008, 10:14:28 pm
I heard that Whitewater had a Freshman hit 92 or 93 on scout day. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

Why is he playing at a D-III if he is popping 92?  Honestly, that makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 pm
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on December 02, 2008, 01:35:42 am
I know a former player at WW who still is around the team from time to time and he confirmed that a Freshman sat in the low 90's on their scout day.  He didn't know the name but he knows that the guy is a Sophmore in school but has Freshman eligability. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 02, 2008, 08:55:27 am
I know a former player at WW who still is around the team from time to time and he confirmed that a Freshman sat in the low 90's on their scout day.  He didn't know the name but he knows that the guy is a Sophmore in school but has Freshman eligability. 

Why don't you just tell us that it is you?!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on December 02, 2008, 09:27:44 am
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it

Some choose to stay in the state and play DIII because despite the fact that they get a scholarship it may not be a full ride and the cost of a school out of state may be more than going to an i in-state D3 school.  What did Koback through in HS?  He stayed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: baseball20586 on December 02, 2008, 10:18:09 am
I know a former player at WW who still is around the team from time to time and he confirmed that a Freshman sat in the low 90's on their scout day.  He didn't know the name but he knows that the guy is a Sophmore in school but has Freshman eligability. 

Why don't you just tell us that it is you?!

HAHA i wish it was me, i was toppin out at 86, haha maybe touched 88 if the wind was at my back
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 03, 2008, 12:26:46 am
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 03, 2008, 12:27:12 pm
Very true! I was offered many partial scholarships that still would have made it more expensive than in-state tuition at a WIAC school. With all that being said, I still chose Carthage and its private school tuition over the WIAC schools. (I will be paying off my Carthage loans for many years to come, but I would not have it any other way).
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 12:41:52 pm
Not that it's any of my business, but why?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 03, 2008, 03:26:16 pm
Not that it's any of my business, but why?

I was just much more comfortable at a smaller school and was given a chance to play every day as a freshman. It provided a quality education and I was very comfortable with the coaching staff at Carthage.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on December 03, 2008, 09:50:58 pm
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.

As hard as it may be for you to believe there OshDude I went to UWM on a scholarship out of HS, I didnt like it there and basically what you said, I didnt think it was worth it being unhappy to just stay because of the scholarship and that it was a D1 school. 
While I agree it was like a job, I have time imagining that the other WIAC schools dont have a lot going on, the amount of things we do at UWS (practice, conditioning, weight lifting, etc) are the exact same as UWM, but Ive heard about other schools where theres more.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 11:43:57 pm
Not that it's any of my business, but why?

I was just much more comfortable at a smaller school and was given a chance to play every day as a freshman. It provided a quality education and I was very comfortable with the coaching staff at Carthage.

Did you happen to know my man, Hank Johnson?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 04, 2008, 12:02:37 am
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.

As hard as it may be for you to believe there OshDude I went to UWM on a scholarship out of HS, I didnt like it there and basically what you said, I didnt think it was worth it being unhappy to just stay because of the scholarship and that it was a D1 school. 
While I agree it was like a job, I have time imagining that the other WIAC schools dont have a lot going on, the amount of things we do at UWS (practice, conditioning, weight lifting, etc) are the exact same as UWM, but Ive heard about other schools where theres more.
I believe it. I believed it when I heard it last spring, and I believed after seeing you pitch.

I blew out my shoulder the summer after my senior year, wasting a partial. I didn't even have options after that. College baseball's funny that way, especially when you're not a HS All-American or something similar, nationally, that also sounds good.

Of course I've mostly heard from men and women who made the D-I to D-III move and only one D-III to D-I (a female sprinter). I knew those athletes were all in D-III for a reason, but I was amazed by the small variance of those reasons. I can only think of one guy's primary motivating factor being something other than shades of what I wrote before – this one athlete missed his family, which was like 1,800 miles away if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 04, 2008, 01:31:56 pm
Not that it's any of my business, but why?

I was just much more comfortable at a smaller school and was given a chance to play every day as a freshman. It provided a quality education and I was very comfortable with the coaching staff at Carthage.

Did you happen to know my man, Hank Johnson?

I attended Carthage from 1993-96. Not sure when Hank was there?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on December 05, 2008, 01:08:56 pm
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.

As hard as it may be for you to believe there OshDude I went to UWM on a scholarship out of HS, I didnt like it there and basically what you said, I didnt think it was worth it being unhappy to just stay because of the scholarship and that it was a D1 school. 
While I agree it was like a job, I have time imagining that the other WIAC schools dont have a lot going on, the amount of things we do at UWS (practice, conditioning, weight lifting, etc) are the exact same as UWM, but Ive heard about other schools where theres more.
I believe it. I believed it when I heard it last spring, and I believed after seeing you pitch.

I blew out my shoulder the summer after my senior year, wasting a partial. I didn't even have options after that. College baseball's funny that way, especially when you're not a HS All-American or something similar, nationally, that also sounds good.

Of course I've mostly heard from men and women who made the D-I to D-III move and only one D-III to D-I (a female sprinter). I knew those athletes were all in D-III for a reason, but I was amazed by the small variance of those reasons. I can only think of one guy's primary motivating factor being something other than shades of what I wrote before – this one athlete missed his family, which was like 1,800 miles away if I remember correctly.

Haha well I was just givin ya a hard time Osh, but yeah I dont have to tell you about shoulders injuries.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 05, 2008, 05:04:34 pm
UW-Oshkosh receives a bid to host the Midwest Regionals once again this season. 

Looks like EJ Schneider will get a makeover once again when the month of May rolls around.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 05, 2008, 11:57:05 pm
UW-Oshkosh receives a bid to host the Midwest Regionals once again this season. 

Looks like EJ Schneider will get a makeover once again when the month of May rolls around.
Hope the makeover starts with new stands and an enclosed press box. One of these years someone's gonna get hurt on the third base bleachers. And calling games under parasols and covering your boards with garbage bags probably isn't fun.

I'll take the field as is, though.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Bronko7 on December 08, 2008, 05:18:06 pm
I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Just Bill on December 09, 2008, 09:26:13 am
I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!

Since there's no more 4-team regionals, all the NCAA Regionals require night games. The NCAA won't let you split the regional games between two fields.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: badgerwarhawk on December 09, 2008, 11:24:14 am
Unfortunately WW's baseball field project had to be postponed to next summer.  Once completed we'll have lights and be bidding for a regional tournament.

In the meantime we've had some success on EJ Schneider diamond and won't mind returning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 09, 2008, 03:15:57 pm
I'll take the field as is, though.
As is? 

Not me......

Wasn't EJ where a UWO player took a ball in the face during infield practice at Regionals some years back?  I believe they had to "burn" a redshirt on the guy that ended having to play.

He ended up having a pretty decent career though.....  Aaron Luepke ring a bell?

(Anyone else remember this or is my memory starting to go with old age?)
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BigPoppa on December 10, 2008, 11:34:01 am
You are correct sir. Not sure on the year it happened, but I was playing for Carthage at the time, so it had to be between 1993-96. I played tons of high school and legion games at EJ Schneider field. While it is a fantastic high school facility, I think they could do much better for the NCAA regionals. Much of this selection probably has to do with the quality of the event that UW-O hosts and not the quaility of the facility.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 10, 2008, 01:21:47 pm
You are correct sir. Not sure on the year it happened, but I was playing for Carthage at the time, so it had to be between 1993-96.
I'm pretty sure it was 1995, the year after UWO won the National Championship.  Dan Johnston took a ball in the face during warm-ups, which forced Luepke to play and "use" his redshirt.  I believe that was also the year that UWO and Carthage played in the first round of the World Series in Salem, with the Titans winning.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 11, 2008, 01:17:22 am
I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!

Since there's no more 4-team regionals, all the NCAA Regionals require night games. The NCAA won't let you split the regional games between two fields.
May have been just plain luck, but lights were not even close to being needed at EJ last year.

And if you play 3B at EJ, you're either brave or you don't know what you're in for. I did it several times, but I always hoped I wouldn't get killed. Things happens VERY quickly over there. But the rest of the IF is sweet. Granted I have not played at EJ in years, but SS and 2B were a pleasure to play at EJ. There's a lip at SS that one pregame fungo session will prepare you for, but whenever I played 2B there the IF was so fast that I played 5 feet into RF with the bases empty. I guess I had the experienced knowledge of the quirks, but I loved that IF. Everywhere but 3B, that is. If you've ever played 3B during the twilight hours on a clear day at EJ, you know it's almost impossible. Downright scary.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 13, 2008, 10:02:00 pm
Don't know if everyone saw that all schedules are up. Noticed the home-and-homes for nearby schools are gone this year. Not sure how I feel about that, but I don't think I like it.
Schedule edge to Point with WW and UWO at home. Schedule deficit to WW with road series at UWO and Point.

Oshkosh (http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/Schedule.html)
Home: WW, LAX, PV
Road: Point, Sup, Stout
Noncon: Spring games (Fla.), Marian (H)

Whitewater (http://www.uwwsports.com/schedules.asp?path=baseball)
Home: LAX, Sup, PV
Road: UWO, Point, Stout
Noncon: Spring games (Fla.), St. Mary's (Dome @ 10 p.m.), St. Thomas (Dome @ 10 p.m.), Carroll (H, still called a college on WW site. It's now Carroll University ...), Marian (A), CUW (A) (betcha Marian and/or CUW get cancelled ...)
HC John Vodenlich was recently named the state College Coach of the Year by the Wisconsin Baseball Coaches Association. Not a big shocker, but thought I'd pass it on.

Stevens Point (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/schedules.asp?path=baseball)
Home: UWO, WW, Stout
Road: LAX, Sup, PV
Noncon: Spring games (Fla.), St. Olaf (Dome), St. Norbert (A), Ripon (H), Edgewood (A)

Superior (http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/schedule.cfm)
Home: UWO, Point, Stout
Road: WW, LAX, PV
Noncon: Spring games (Fla.), Hamline (Dome), Loras (Dome @ 6 a.m.), Augsburg (Dome), Northland (H)
Not in-region: Concordia-St. Paul (Dome), Viterbo (A)
Superior on the road for first 3/4 or so of the year (3/4-4/19), home for last 1/4 (4/21-5/2). Three Supes captains have a blog (http://yellowjacketbaseball.blogspot.com/) this year. Also, two P's featured in Baseball Newsletter (http://www.uwsuper.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/08-09/news/upload/Baseball-Newsletter.pdf).

La Crosse (http://perth.uwlax.edu/Athletics/mbaseball/schedule/)
Home: Point, Sup, Stout
Road: UWO, WW, PV
Noncon: Spring games (Ariz.), St. Scholastica (Dome @ 11:45 p.m.), St. Mary's (H), Gustavus (A), St. Olaf (H)
Not in-region: Viterbo (H)

Stout (http://www3.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/sked.cfm)
Home: UWO, WW, PV
Road: Point, Sup, LAX
Noncon: Spring games (Ariz.), St. Thomas (A), Lawrence (A)
Not in-region: Minnesota-Crookston (Dome @ 6:45 a.m.)

Platteville (http://www.uwplatt.edu/athletics/baseball/2009/schedule.html)
Home: Point, Sup, LAX
Road: UWO, WW, Stout
Noncon: Fontbonne (A), Maryville (A), Loras (A), Wisconsin Lutheran (A), St. Norbert (H), Edgewood (A)
Not in-region: Birmingham Southern (A), Huntingdon (A), Piedmont (A), St. Ambrose (A)
Kendall Murray Field will see action on just seven days this year. PV's on the road for the other 17 scheduled dates.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on December 16, 2008, 01:35:32 am
nice work osh, just to clarify we only have 2 captains currently, and yours truly might drop in with a blog post from time to time as well.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 16, 2008, 09:16:40 pm
nice work osh, just to clarify we only have 2 captains currently, and yours truly might drop in with a blog post from time to time as well.
Who are the two captains? The newsletter said all three – Schlangen, Cummings and Ryan – were captains.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: Slinger45 on December 17, 2008, 02:07:48 pm
nice work osh, just to clarify we only have 2 captains currently, and yours truly might drop in with a blog post from time to time as well.
Who are the two captains? The newsletter said all three – Schlangen, Cummings and Ryan – were captains.

Just Schlangen and Cummings, Ryan has left the team for personal reasons I think.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wailaucm on December 17, 2008, 07:16:12 pm
I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!

Since there's no more 4-team regionals, all the NCAA Regionals require night games. The NCAA won't let you split the regional games between two fields.
May have been just plain luck, but lights were not even close to being needed at EJ last year.

And if you play 3B at EJ, you're either brave or you don't know what you're in for. I did it several times, but I always hoped I wouldn't get killed. Things happens VERY quickly over there. But the rest of the IF is sweet. Granted I have not played at EJ in years, but SS and 2B were a pleasure to play at EJ. There's a lip at SS that one pregame fungo session will prepare you for, but whenever I played 2B there the IF was so fast that I played 5 feet into RF with the bases empty. I guess I had the experienced knowledge of the quirks, but I loved that IF. Everywhere but 3B, that is. If you've ever played 3B during the twilight hours on a clear day at EJ, you know it's almost impossible. Downright scary.

Looking at the different fields that the Regionals could be played on, EJ is obviously not one of the best fields for the NCAA Regionals. If OSH or WW would get their lights up they would be the best places for a regional which is what oshdude has said.  So in the mean time, why not Wisc. Rapids.   Now being a part of the entire thing as a player and listening to all the talk, the community loves baseball and does so much for the WIAC and the NCAA the year it was there.   Its not like the fences get moved back when one team hits vs another, plus, the town just put almost 6 figures into that field to redo the infield and various little things around the park.  Isnt that what teams and people want, is to play in a NCAA Regional where the community cares that the tournament like that is there in their city and goes that far above normal to put on a great tournament for the athletes. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: ballfan55 on December 18, 2008, 10:25:00 am
I understand WIAC tourney is not in WI Rapids this year but has been moved to Green Bay's Joannes field.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 18, 2008, 01:49:01 pm
I understand WIAC tourney is not in WI Rapids this year but has been moved to Green Bay's Joannes field.
I can't say I have heard anything about this....  All the WIAC baseball teams still have TBA listed on their schedules for the 2009 season.

Any chance you have a link?
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: cubs on December 18, 2008, 03:27:32 pm
So in the mean time, why not Wisc. Rapids.   Now being a part of the entire thing as a player and listening to all the talk, the community loves baseball and does so much for the WIAC and the NCAA the year it was there.   Its not like the fences get moved back when one team hits vs another, plus, the town just put almost 6 figures into that field to redo the infield and various little things around the park.  Isnt that what teams and people want, is to play in a NCAA Regional where the community cares that the tournament like that is there in their city and goes that far above normal to put on a great tournament for the athletes. 
I guess my thing is is why not play on a field that is similar to what you will be playing on in the World Series?  Witter Field and Fox Cities Stadium couldn't be more different as far as how it plays.  If you hit a HR at the World Series you have truly earned it, where as as Witter Field, some lazy fly balls are able to carry out for a "cheap" HR.

In 2007, Point had four different players hit a total of 6 HR's in five games at the Regionals, but were unable to hit even one until their fourth and final game of the World Series when Zimmerman hit a pair.

In 2006 it was even more drastic, as eight different Pointers accounted for 16 HR's in six games in the Regionals, but were only able to muster two in the World Series (Zimmerman and Brehm each hit one) in three games.

Now obviously the pitching is better at the World Series, which accounts for some of the difference, but the 16/2 number is VERY eye-opening.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: wailaucm on December 18, 2008, 09:31:46 pm
So in the mean time, why not Wisc. Rapids.   Now being a part of the entire thing as a player and listening to all the talk, the community loves baseball and does so much for the WIAC and the NCAA the year it was there.   Its not like the fences get moved back when one team hits vs another, plus, the town just put almost 6 figures into that field to redo the infield and various little things around the park.  Isnt that what teams and people want, is to play in a NCAA Regional where the community cares that the tournament like that is there in their city and goes that far above normal to put on a great tournament for the athletes. 
I guess my thing is is why not play on a field that is similar to what you will be playing on in the World Series?  Witter Field and Fox Cities Stadium couldn't be more different as far as how it plays.  If you hit a HR at the World Series you have truly earned it, where as as Witter Field, some lazy fly balls are able to carry out for a "cheap" HR.

In 2007, Point had four different players hit a total of 6 HR's in five games at the Regionals, but were unable to hit even one until their fourth and final game of the World Series when Zimmerman hit a pair.

In 2006 it was even more drastic, as eight different Pointers accounted for 16 HR's in six games in the Regionals, but were only able to muster two in the World Series (Zimmerman and Brehm each hit one) in three games.

Now obviously the pitching is better at the World Series, which accounts for some of the difference, but the 16/2 number is VERY eye-opening.

Very good points Cubs, first I want to comment on the WIAC Tourney. 
Rumor has it and it hasnt been finalized yet because of some administrators not liking it but the new WIAC tourney could be the top four teams again playing but #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs #3 in a 3-game series played at the higher seeded team.  No more double-elimination tournament at least that is what is proposed.  So the tourney could last a week. 

For the field being part of those numbers I will agree that playing there pads your stats and is the opposite of Fox Cities Stadium.  I agree that games should be played on a bigger field but until the other fields get the money/lights up play it at Witter.  The pitchers at the World Series are that much better then the regional however WW proved your point slightly wrong because they didnt hit very many at all at Witter during the WIAC Tourney but went on a homerun hitting streak in Osh and App.  So you cant really say the field is that much of a difference. 
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: OshDude on December 19, 2008, 12:24:58 am
I understand WIAC tourney is not in WI Rapids this year but has been moved to Green Bay's Joannes field.
I can't say I have heard anything about this....  All the WIAC baseball teams still have TBA listed on their schedules for the 2009 season.

Any chance you have a link?
The Superior Baseball Newsletter has the Green Bay WIAC tourney listed.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: BaseballFan on December 19, 2008, 02:44:38 pm
My personal opinion and experience is that when you play on shorter fields, players basbeball swings tend to be more condusive to the field. In other words they hit more fly balls cuz they know they will go out. Just happens to be that most fields in wisconsin are really short. In minnesota the fields are on the larger side and some of those homeruns in WI are just routine outs in minnesota.

I definately think it affects the game and gives an advantage to some teams despite both teams playing on the same field. It would be nice if they could alternate the site between WI and MN every year. Too bad no one in MN wants it so we will just have to be satisfied with WI.

One last thing, Wisconsin Rapids is a great host, but not a field for a regional. glad to hear they fixed the infield, but the field is just too short. Regional site should not be played at a crackerbox.
Title: Re: BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Post by: janesvilleflash on December 27, 2008, 08:51:57 pm