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Title: BB: CCIW: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 05, 2006, 12:14:15 pm
Here is the hyper link for the CCIW Conference:

http://www.cciw.org/

Hyper links to CCIW teams:

Augustana: http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/baseball/

Carthage: http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325

Elmhurst: http://www.elmhurst.edu/~athletic/Home/baseball.htm

Illinois Wesleyan: http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/baseball.htm

Millikin: http://www.millikin.edu/athletics/baseball/

North Central: http://www.noctrl.edu/x7715.xml

North Park: http://campus.northpark.edu/athletics/baseball/

Wheaton: http://www.wheaton.edu/Athletics/baseball/

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I didnt see a CCIW board so here it is. I saw IWU was ranked, congrats. I hope Carthage can get up there like they have been in the past.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 06, 2006, 07:19:04 pm
It will be an interewsting CCIW race this season. IWU looks to be loaded again. Carthage will be there in the end, they always are.

It will be interesting to see what Carthage puts on the field this season as this is the first season since they let their long-time assistant/recruiter, Brian Mosher, go. Augie Schmidt is a quality coach, but it always helps when you start with quality players.

North Park has a new coach who did not have the benefit of a full season of recruiting and is coming off a 1-39 season. Expect them to weigh down the conference for at least one more season.

Any other insights into the conference?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on January 07, 2006, 11:29:41 am
North Park has a new coach who did not have the benefit of a full season of recruiting and is coming off a 1-39 season. Expect them to weigh down the conference for at least one more season.

People at NPU are really high on new coach Luke Johnson, a former Elmhurst and North Central assistant who was a star for Elmhurst during his playing days. But, yeah, it's going to take him awhile to make the program competitive again.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 07, 2006, 03:22:52 pm
Luke Johnson will do great things for that program, but I agree that it is going to take awhile to get things on the right track.

Anybody have any pre-season predictions for the conference?

Here is how I see it:
1. IWU
2. Carthage
3. Elmhurst
4. Augustana
5. NCC
6. Millikin
7. Wheaton
8. North Park
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 09, 2006, 08:48:11 am
Here are my predictions:

1) IWU
2) Carthage
3) Elmhurst
4) NCC
5) Augustana
6) Millikin
7) North Park
8) Wheaton

I hope that the new NP coach can get them some win right away and get them out of the bottom of the conference!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 09, 2006, 12:49:05 pm
Anybody in the CCIW have a great year recruiting?

Who are the players/teams that we will all hear about in May that are not on the radar yet?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 09, 2006, 02:02:26 pm
Just thought that this was very interesting, 1982 amature MLB draft:

#   Selected By   Name   Position   College or Hometown
1.   Cubs   Shawon Dunston   SS   Brooklyn, NY
2.   Blue Jays   Augie Schmidt   SS   University of New Orleans (Carthage Coach)
3.   Padres   Jimmy Jones   RHP   Dallas, TX
4.   Twins   Bryan Oelkers   LHP   Wichita State University
5.   Mets   Dwight Gooden   RHP   Tampa, FL
6.   Mariners   Spike Owen   SS   University of Texas
7.   Pirates   Sam Khalifa   SS   Tucson, AZ
8.   Angels   Bob Kipper   LHP   Aurora, IL
9.   Braves   Duane Ward   RHP   Farmington, NM
10.   Royals   John Morris   OF   Seton Hall University
11.   Giants   Steve Stanicek   1B   University of Nebraksa
12.   Indians   Mark Snyder   RHP   Knoxville, TN
13.   Phillies   John Russell   C-OF   University of Oklahoma
14.   White Sox   Ron Karkovice   C   Orlando, FL
15.   Astros   Steve Swain   OF   El Cajon, CA
16.   Red Sox   Sam Horn   1B   San Diego, CA
17.   Cubs   Tony Woods   SS   Whittier College
18.   Red Sox   Rob Parkins   RHP   Cerritos, CA
19.   Dodgers   Franklin Stubbs   1B   Virginia Tech
20.   Tigers   Rich Monteleone   RHP   Tampa, FL
21.   Cardinals   Todd Worrell   RHP   Biola College
22.   Reds   Scott Jones   LHP   Hinsdale, IL
23.   Reds   Bill Hawley   RHP   West Columbia, SC
24.   Orioles   Joe Kucharski   RHP   University of South Carolina
25.   Brewers   Dale Sveum   SS   Pinole, CA
26.   Red Sox   Jeff Ledbetter   1B-OF   Florida State University

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on January 09, 2006, 05:56:30 pm
Augie Schmidt was also the Golden Spikes (National POY) winner in 1982...pretty good player, and a pretty good coach too.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 09, 2006, 07:07:18 pm
Augie Schmidt was also the Golden Spikes (National POY) winner in 1982...pretty good player, and a pretty good coach too.

He was stuck for years in Triple A while Tony Fernandez played SS for the Bluejays.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on January 10, 2006, 11:57:09 pm
Augie was traded to the Giants. He wasn't always stuck in the Blue Jays organization.

Now this is a chat board!!!!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 11, 2006, 03:36:49 pm
RedmanFB44

I just noticed your tag line at the bottom(It's Redmen, not Red Men). I love it. As a former REDMAN my self(Actually played for Augie Schmidt), I was somewhat upset by the change, but understood why it had to happen.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 11, 2006, 03:47:04 pm
Scrappy-

Thanks, I am also a former Redmen (only 1 year removed). I played football but I supported the Carthage baseball team. I have many friends that were or still are on the team. Baseball is my number 2 love behind football. I love the stats in baseball. So many to look at and compare. I played baseball from when I was 6 until my sophmore year in high school, tryouts. I tore my shoulder up during the tryouts. So then I put my abilities into football. I love the game and I am really looking forward to watch Augie and his crew this year.

P.S. The left field area is the best place to watch games @ Carthage  ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 11, 2006, 04:02:45 pm
When I played, the DONS and SIGS would throw tailgate parties just behind the fence in left-center... I am sure that they still do. Our dads always seemed to wander out that way between games to have a few beers with the college guys and scope out the young ladies. Probably not much different than today.
Title: CCIW Baseball Poll
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 11, 2006, 06:47:24 pm
Which CCIW baseball team will win the conference title in 2006?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on January 11, 2006, 09:09:53 pm
Yeah, that was the worst part of playing a weekend series at Carthage.  We'd have to sit there in cold, windy Kenosha while usually losing and also having to watch the students in LF have a good time and use the "liquid warmth" method to stay warm.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 11, 2006, 09:47:29 pm
Yeah, that was the worst part of playing a weekend series at Carthage.  We'd have to sit there in cold, windy Kenosha while usually losing and also having to watch the students in LF have a good time and use the "liquid warmth" method to stay warm.

By the way... Carthage is a "dry" campus. Ironic, isn't it?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 12, 2006, 08:52:38 am
Yes Carthage is a dry campus but the school will let students get away with things if they are supporting a athletic team. Your not gonna get nearly as many fans at a baseball game as you would at a football game. So when you have an extra 30-60 fans yelling, screaming, and drinking out in left field the school doesnt seem to mind. Now we all know that isnt right but as students we will take what we can get  :D
Title: Re: CCIW Baseball Poll
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 12, 2006, 08:54:16 am
GO REDMEN!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 12, 2006, 10:44:20 am
"Dry Campus" except for Baseball games and Homecoming. Gotta make sure the alums have a good time and continue to donate to the school.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 12, 2006, 11:07:36 am
Hahahaha very true Scrappy
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: titan missile on January 13, 2006, 11:59:00 am
Yes Carthage is a dry campus but the school will let students get away with things if they are supporting a athletic team. Your not gonna get nearly as many fans at a baseball game as you would at a football game. So when you have an extra 30-60 fans yelling, screaming, and drinking out in left field the school doesnt seem to mind. Now we all know that isnt right but as students we will take what we can get  :D

That's gonna be true for a lot of DIII schools, especially in the CCIW.  Admin kind of turns a blind eye to students having a few beverages and being loud in support of their school which I think is a good thing as long as the students don't cross the line.  Definitely can add that "homefield advantage" that the athletes, in most cases, appreciate.

Carthage has always had good support for their baseball team.  It doesn't hurt that they are pretty much always in contention. 
I can't remember if it was better or worse that the wind was howling out to left center at 40mph...the wind prevented whatever was being yelled from being heard, but that same wind carried a lot of Carthage fly balls over the chainlink.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 13, 2006, 01:23:03 pm
Be thankful that the bushes are now grown in along the outfield fence. When I played for Carthage, the fans would line up couches right against the fence(Bushes were not in yet) and ride left fielders for six hours. I always felt bad for them. Then again, I got it pretty bad at 3B when we played at North Central. I used to look forwrd to hearing new insults every year at NCC.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 13, 2006, 03:55:37 pm
Looking at the upcoming starters for the Carthage Redmen this season:

Games played last season/Games started last season
Catcher - 29/27
1st Base - 42/42 .345, 10 doubles, 3 HR's, 34 RBI's
2nd Base - 41/35
3rd Base - Warren Even (My Boy) 43/43 .319 8 HR's 37 RBI's
Shortstop - 43/43
Outfield - 17/0
Outfield -
Outfield -
SP - 9 starts 4-4 record 3.02 49K's 16BB's
SP - 9 starts 8-0 record 2.43 47K's 9BB's
RP - 11 games 2-2 record 4 saves 1.82 24K's 5BB's 24.2INN
RP - 8 games 4 starts 2-0 1 save 5.81 26K's 18BB's

As you can see they have a strong team this year but their only weakness is their outfield. Sould be a great year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 13, 2006, 04:05:03 pm
Looking at Carthage and it outfield, you would have to think that Auugie will plug a stud or two into those spots. Carthage has a long line of All-American caliber outfielders in the program. They will find someone or Augie will just stick a big hitter out there and live with the defense.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 17, 2006, 09:02:02 am
Carthage does have a weakness in the outfield because of their inexperience but Augie always finds players to cover spots. Carthage is going to rely on solid hitting and good pitching.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on January 17, 2006, 04:20:03 pm
I noticed that UW Oshkosh and Carthage are meeting up for a DH on their respective Spring Trips to Florida.  Kind of nice to see these teams meet up again (2004) as they are both traditionally great baseball schools.  If I'm not mistaken Augie and Lechnir  have a pretty good relationship off of the field, so it's kind of surprising that they haven't met up against each other more.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 17, 2006, 04:47:58 pm
Augie and Lechnir have a great off-field realtionship. The reason they do not play more often is that the WIAC does not play the CCIW in any games anymore outside of their spring trips and post-season games. Carthage used to play Whitewater every year before the conferences put and end to it.

Too bad... they could have some great CCIW/WIAC Challenges for baseball. I am not sure if they play in other sports...??

Carthage and the WIAC school are forced to fill their schedules with the likes of MWC schools and other teams that struggle to compete with the big guns.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on January 17, 2006, 05:24:07 pm
Look out for the Elmhurst Blue Jays to make a major upset in the CCIW conference this year.  With an outstanding pitching staff and an unbelievable infield and a talented and speedy outfield, which has been together sense their freshman year.  They are going to make some teams very disappointed this year.

My CCIW prediction

1.)   Elmhurst
2.)   IWU
3.)   Carthage
4.)   Augustana
5.)   NCC
6.)   Wheaton
7.)   Millikin
8.)   North Park
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 17, 2006, 08:33:10 pm
Hyper links to CCIW teams:

Carthage: http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325

Illinois Wesleyan: http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/baseball.htm

Elmhurst: http://www.elmhurst.edu/~athletic/Home/baseball.htm

Wheaton: http://www.wheaton.edu/Athletics/baseball/

Millikin: http://www.millikin.edu/athletics/baseball/

North Park: http://campus.northpark.edu/athletics/baseball/

Augustana: http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/baseball/

North Central: http://www.noctrl.edu/x7715.xml
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 17, 2006, 08:35:27 pm
Here is the hyper link for the CCIW Conference:

http://www.cciw.org/
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on January 17, 2006, 11:43:12 pm
Looking at the upcoming starters for the Elmhurst Blue Jays this season

Games played last season/Games started last season – And some Stats or comments.

Catcher – 28/20 3 HR’s, FLD% .982 “Could be first team all conference”
1st Base – 31/34 15 BB, 24 Hits, FLD% .974
2nd Base – 14/4
3rd Base – 29/27 23 Hits
Shortstop – transfer student “Could be the next Brad Gorth”
Outfield – 24/23 29 hits, 25 Runs, 5 HR’s, 22 RBI’s, 11 BB, BA .352 “He was injured for 16 games and could be first team all conference and All American”
Outfield – 29/25 29 hits, 16 BB, OBP .446, 9 SB, FLD% 1.000, BA .322
Outfield – 25/19 23 hits, BA .307
DH – 23/9 2 HR, SLG% .450
1SP – “He was out last year do to injury and he is throwing really hard”
2SP – 7 starts, 31ER, 52.2 IP, 26 SO
3SP – 12 starts, 39 ER, 56.0 IP, 26 SO
4SP – 3 starts, 7 ER, 8.1 IP “ Hard throwing lefty”
1RP – 23 games, ERA 3.50, 4-3, 43.3 IP, 17 ER, 24 SO
2RP – 21 games, 4-2, 3 SV, 25 ER, 21 SO, 34.2 IP
3RP - “He was out last year do to injury” 2004 stats – 8 starts, 5-2, 2 CG, 52.1 IP, 37 ER, 26 SO

All of the younger players got a lot of playing time in the past couple years.  And they are ready to take over the CCIW league. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 18, 2006, 05:58:39 pm
It looks as though we have a preview of both Carthage, Illinois Weslyan and Elmhurst... does anyone have info on the other programs?

I know NPU has a new coach, what type of players did he bring in. What system are they going to run? Sit back and swing like Carthage or play small ball like Elmhurst?

Who looks to have the CCIW's top pitching this spring?

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 18, 2006, 06:21:44 pm
Looking over the returing All-CCIW players form last season, thing become a little clearer as to where teams stand.

*pitcher

Augie (4)
Jake Vernon Sr-OF
Jake Meisenbach Sr-C
Marc Blakely So-OF
*Kevin Kuntz Jr-P

Carthage (3)
*Michael Heining Jr-P
*Scott Evosovich Sr-P
Chris Sadjak Sr-INF

Elmhurst (1)
*Doug Kucik Jr-P

IWU (4)
Ricky Angel So-INF
Pat Cinquegrani Jr-OF
Joe Howard Sr-OF
Nick Chilezenkowski Sr-OF

Millikin (0)

North Central (1)
Mark Satkowski Sr-DH

North Park (0)

Wheaton (1)
Quinn Wulbecker Sr-INF

With all of this being said, it appears that Augie, IWU and Carthage are in the best shape. I have to think that Carthage is in the Best shape as they have two returning All-CCIW pitchers. Augustana has one returning pitcher and IWU has none, but four returning All-CCIW hitters.

I am thinking this could be a three horse race with North Central and Elmhurst fighting for the fourth playoff spot.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on January 18, 2006, 08:17:04 pm
I'll give a nice detailed preview of Augie this weekend when I get some time
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on January 18, 2006, 08:18:13 pm
Also, does anyone know if the new 1 playoff spot for every 6.5(?) eligible teams also applies to baseball?  Just curious if there might be some more at large bids this year
Title: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on January 19, 2006, 12:34:24 am
Does anyone have stats from fall ball from there teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on January 19, 2006, 01:29:40 am
Look out for Elmhurst Blue Jays pitching staff.

Husiel a hard throwing right handier, who throws strikes - Opponent Batting Average was .138%

Kucik a pitcher that can get the job done when has team needs him the most; he is always ahead of hitters.

Mathis is a pitcher that gives you that double play ground ball – 71% of his outs are ground balls.

Rogers a young and hard throwing pitcher, who can strike out a lot of batters.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 19, 2006, 09:11:25 am
I know that Carthage has a pitcher that was a freshman last year that was all ready getting looked at by scouts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ScrappyMcTavish on January 19, 2006, 10:08:46 am
Look out for Elmhurst Blue Jays pitching staff.

Husiel a hard throwing right handier, who throws strikes - Opponent Batting Average was .138%

Kucik a pitcher that can get the job done when has team needs him the most; he is always ahead of hitters.

Mathis is a pitcher that gives you that double play ground ball – 71% of his outs are ground balls.

Rogers a young and hard throwing pitcher, who can strike out a lot of batters.


Are those fall ball stats against Elmhurst hitters? Your pitchers may look great on paper, but the caliber of hitting may not be up to what you will face in the CCIW. Maybe I am wrong and Elmhurts is loaded with hitters, but until they shut down IWU and Carthage, it is all specualation from fall ball.

Fall ball is nice, but it doesn't really matter as pitchers are very limited in what they are throwing and hitters sit back and feast on pitching that does not make the spring team. In short, fall ball is nice, but not the real deal.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on January 19, 2006, 09:06:34 pm
Why does anybody make IWU and Carthage sound like they are best team in the CCIW. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 19, 2006, 11:14:15 pm
Traditionally, they are among the top in the nation. I understand you think Elmhurst is going to be good, but until they prove it on the field(like Carthage and IWU have in the past) you are just blowing smoke.

I will believe it when I see it. I hope Elmhurst proves me wrong. It will make for a very exciting CCIW and lead to a potential extra berth in the NCAA Tourney for an at-large bid.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on January 20, 2006, 11:01:21 am
Hey scrappy-

I had some of my buddies on the Carthage baseball team ask who you were? If you dont want to answer I understand. They were just wondering if they knew you or if they have heard about you.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 20, 2006, 03:40:17 pm
Scrappy?? He may not answer as he is currently coaching college ball on the West Coast. I believe his name is still quite prevalent in the record books.

I do not want to be the one to reveal his identity if he is choosing to keep it hidden, so I will let him make that decision.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on January 22, 2006, 12:22:07 am
So, what is the next baseball topic?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Tezbaseball on January 22, 2006, 12:24:43 am
Interesting site. You can see by where a MLB player went to school.

http://baseballreference.com/schools/
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 22, 2006, 12:27:01 pm
So, what is the next baseball topic?

I was hoping to get a scouting report on the other CCIW teams. Are there others out the with info on NPU, Wheaton, North Central, Augie, or Millikin??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on January 22, 2006, 07:40:04 pm
Here is a little preview of the Augie team:

First off, Augie lost 4 position players who saw significant time and also lose 3 of their top 4 starting pitchers.  These 3 combined for 27 of Augie's 44 starts.  Also, Augie's All-Region catcher will not be playing this year.  This leaves a major hole because the backup catcher transferred schools so Augie is looking for a catcher now.

Here is what they return at each position:

GP/GS, AVG, HR, RBI, SLG


C - who knows...maybe a current player will change positions or maybe they can still get a JUCO transfer after Augie's 2nd trimester ends.

1B -   40/38; .310; 5; 28; .486   or
         a Sr. who sat out last season w/ arm injury

2B -   23/13; .373; 0; 9; .451

3B -   44/43; .327; 9; 43; .566   (also plays 1B & DH)

SS -   I have no clue....4 year starter lost to graduation

OF -   42/41; .365; 7; 42; .585  (All-Region 1st Team)

OF -   39/35; .385; 1; 21; .500

OF -   30/22; .418; 3; 20; .659


APP / GS, W-L, IP, ERA, SO, BB

SP -    9/8, 5-2, 54.1, 3.31, 40, 16

SP -    16/5, 3-1, 54.1, 2.65, 38, 10

From here on out I don't know who else will start but here are the other pitchers

P -   16/1, 6-1, 37.2, 2.87, 31, 6

P -   11/1, 1-0, 17.0, 5.29, 10, 8

P -   7/2, 1-1, 15.0, 7.20, 14, 6

Also have a pitcher returning from arm surgery who started 6 games in 2004


I haven't heard too much about what the recruiting class was like but I hear there is a nice freshman OF that will most likely get some time on varsity this season.  Augie's OF seems to be very solid.  Catcher is the biggest problem as it may require an infielder to move behind the plate.  I'm just not quite sure who will be playing the SS & 2B positions at this point but things are always changing.

Also, it helps that Augie runs a full-fledged JV program as there should be players from last year's team that are ready to contribute heavily on varsity this year.  I think Augie is definitely a top 3 team in the CCIW team but I have no clue what Carthage and IWU will be like so its hard for me to decide where to put them.       


I'll post the official season preview once it is posted online by the SID
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 24, 2006, 04:19:04 pm
I was just looking at a few southern trip schedules and Carthage has a brutal opeing to their season.

March 11th- Kings College-PA (DH)
          12th- Anderson-IN (DH)
          14th- Cortland State-NY(#2 in poll)
          15th- UW- Oshkosh (DH- preseason #35 in nation)
          16th- Concordia-WI (DH)
          17th- Wheaton-MA (#25 in preseason poll)

4 of their first 10 games will be against nationally ranked teams.. that is a tough beginning if they stumble out of the gate. This could me a huge test for the Red Men early in the season.

From the Carthage Preview:
“We could have a lot of new guys on the field in 2006,” admits coach Schmidt, “and that’s a little scary for me.  The talent is there, but the question will be whether or not we can get them ready to play at our level this year.  All of the newcomers are going to have great futures here, but the future has to be now for us.  How we do in 2006 may be determined by how quickly the new guys learn to play at the level that we’re accustomed to.  That said, we do have a lot of pitching experience.  Adding a senior transfer in Jon Olson only adds to the an experience level that already includes Scott Evosevich.  After that, the question will be whether not juniors like Jeff Livek, Brian Long, Zach Smigiel and Ryan Roufus can become productive pitchers for us.  If a few from that group step up, and if Jacob Husing continues to develop, then pitching should be our strength in 2006.”
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 24, 2006, 04:36:53 pm
Here is a little preview of the Augie team:

First off, Augie lost 4 position players who saw significant time and also lose 3 of their top 4 starting pitchers.  These 3 combined for 27 of Augie's 44 starts.  Also, Augie's All-Region catcher will not be playing this year.  This leaves a major hole because the backup catcher transferred schools so Augie is looking for a catcher now.

Here is what they return at each position:
SS -   I have no clue....4 year starter lost to graduation

I haven't heard too much about what the recruiting class was like but I hear there is a nice freshman OF that will most likely get some time on varsity this season.  Augie's OF seems to be very solid.  Catcher is the biggest problem as it may require an infielder to move behind the plate.  I'm just not quite sure who will be playing the SS & 2B positions at this point but things are always changing.



If you have no catcher and no shortstop, it is going to be along season. Those are the two positions you anchor your defense around. They better swing it well if they plan to compete.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on January 24, 2006, 11:55:39 pm
Big Poppa....they could very well have all of that figured out and I just don't know it.  A senior and a freshman split some time at 2B last year so both of them should be capable of playing up the middle....maybe there is a freshman middle infielder or one of the guys from the JV team.

At this point, I wouldn't say it'll be a long year...the most important thing in my mind is to find a catcher who will atleast make the pitchers comfortable.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cokeaholic on January 25, 2006, 11:42:57 am
Yeah i see North Park having another long year.  a new coach and losing a few senior starters cant be a good sign.  they lost their only all-conference player and their best starting pitcher from last year, so things aren't looking to good for them once again
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on January 25, 2006, 12:02:13 pm
I don't think Augie has the C thing figured out.  I know of a high school senior they wanted to graduate early to play catcher this spring. 

As for North Park, I'm not sure losing those two players off a 1 win team is that big of a deal, I can't imagine it can get any worse.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on January 25, 2006, 01:29:27 pm
North Park should just find after conference to play in because they are terrible.
If they keep this 1-34 record up, one day they are going to be on ESPN NEWS for worst baseball team ever.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 25, 2006, 02:52:17 pm
North Park should just find after conference to play in because they are terrible.
If they keep this 1-34 record up, one day they are going to be on ESPN NEWS for worst baseball team ever.


I think that is a little harsh. NP is in a funk right now, but they will surprise a few teams this year and wind a few games. NP used to be a solid program when Bosko was running the show(early 90's). In fact, they were in the conference tourney a few time when I played in the CCIW. When he left, they struggled to find another quality coach and I think they have found that guy in Luke Johnson.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on January 26, 2006, 05:11:03 pm
...That said, we do have a lot of pitching experience.  Adding a senior transfer in Jon Olson only adds to the an experience level that already includes Scott Evosevich.  After that, the question will be whether not juniors like Jeff Livek, Brian Long, Zach Smigiel and Ryan Roufus can become productive pitchers for us.  If a few from that group step up, and if Jacob Husing continues to develop, then pitching should be our strength in 2006.”


Is it just cynical me or does anyone else think it's strange that there is no mention of Heinig - you know, the kid that is 16-0 in his first two seasons at Carthage.

Carthage does not play Oshkosh or any other WI state school because Dr. Campbell will not allow it. He doesn't feel they compete on a level playing field when it comes to enrollment. It's a lot easier to get an athlete into a school that charges $10,000 for tuition as opposed to one that is closing in on $30,000 annually. Augie Schmidt has never been shy about playing the best team's in the DIII nation. We opened with Marietta for 3 years in a row down in Florida when they were the Mt. Union of DIII baseball.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 26, 2006, 06:01:12 pm
Augie has a way of getting under a players skin and making him play better than he has been by doing little things like that(Leaving a 16-0 pitcher off the preview). I can remember him telling Mark Beyer that he was not going to be his starting 1B anymore because he was not consistent enough... all Beyer did was lead the nation in HRs, CCIW POY and finish as a 1st team all-american. Augie has a way of saying things without saying anything at all.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on January 26, 2006, 06:08:48 pm
Poppa...don't I know that!!

III would drive the kids absolutely nuts but they would run through a brick wall for him once the game started. I kept score on the spring trip in 2002 because Pistol was with the basketball team at the Final Four. I sat in the dugout and laughed my ass off at some of the stuff III came up with. And my son was the target of many of those Augieisms!

I think there is more to the story with Heinig. It's not a motivational thing.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on January 26, 2006, 06:16:25 pm
My bad...IV not III
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 26, 2006, 06:17:01 pm
I can also remember Augie telling Jack Richarz(D3 Baseball's all-time walks leader) that he did not think he had a good enough eye to bat leadoff... telling Shannon Blansette that he was happy to see him turn into a slap hitter(he promptly blasted 3 HRs in a DH @ Millikin and refused to shake Augie's hand each time as he rounded third)... and Augie getting so angry at his team @ NCC that he asked the ump to throw him out so he did not have to watch the game anymore(We promptly responded by pounding NCC in the 6th to rally back and win the game)... lots of stories about Schmidtty.

Most of my coaching saying come right from Augie... "Can't polish a turd, It's still a piece of crap when you're done with it..."

Does he still complain about his hamstrings?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 26, 2006, 06:18:52 pm
Poppa...don't I know that!!

III would drive the kids absolutely nuts but they would run through a brick wall for him once the game started.


I'd still run through a wall for him...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on January 26, 2006, 06:24:06 pm
Hamstrings and I've never seen anyone that hates the cold as much as Augie! I don't know how he moved with all the clothes he had on under his uniform! We had a ritual where I'd bring him a cup of coffee before every game. It started at the regionals at Wesleyan in 2000. He'd hide in the dugout until I'd get there with the coffee so he could warm up.

He is unique!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 26, 2006, 06:32:05 pm
Augie is one of those people you hear others talking about and think they are making it all up... until you meet him and realize that it is the truth. He and Yogi Berra speak a language all their own.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on January 27, 2006, 11:42:09 am
Here is the Augie preview...

http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/baseball/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1138212878&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&

Rumor from a Carthage friend says Heinig was purposely left off the season preview but not for motivational reasons.



Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 27, 2006, 12:42:57 pm


Rumor from a Carthage friend says Heinig was purposely left off the season preview but not for motivational reasons.





I have heard some rumors as well, but I think it is best to keep them off this site. I would hate for them to be wrong and risk hurting a kid for no reason.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CardinalAlum on January 27, 2006, 12:57:26 pm
So, what is the next baseball topic?

I was hoping to get a scouting report on the other CCIW teams. Are there others out the with info on NPU, Wheaton, North Central, Augie, or Millikin??
NCC hasn't made a ripple in the conference recently and the program is sad.  What Purcell and Mathey had is gone.  The alumni support is not there and the team doesn't play with the same heart that other teams played with under a different Coach.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 27, 2006, 01:05:08 pm
NCC used to be the real deal... I think Mathey took all the magic with him to NIU. Taking the assistant coaches with him really hurt the alumni links to the program.

This should be a very competitive CCIW race.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: coachb on January 31, 2006, 06:03:53 pm
Where is the toughest place to play in the CCIW in terms of fields and fans? Where are the best?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cokeaholic on February 01, 2006, 11:16:02 am
The worst place to play based on field conditions and fans has to be milikin, and the nicest field to play at i would have to say is ill. weslyan
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bodhi5 on February 01, 2006, 11:40:55 am
North Park should just find after conference to play in because they are terrible.
If they keep this 1-34 record up, one day they are going to be on ESPN NEWS for worst baseball team ever.

Here is some interesting information for you CCIW fans: 

Over the past two seasons, Aurora University is 12-0 against the CCIW.  With an 8-0 record against the CCIW in 2005, you could argue that AU won the NIIC and CCIW championships.

As for the quote above, how about for the 2006 season AU and North Park switch conferences?  Just a thought.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 01, 2006, 12:42:42 pm
Does NP still play inside the track?? It was tough place to play as a right fielder as you almost need to play in the infield.

I always thought that Carthage was also a tough place to place because of all the wind... and I played for Carthage!

North Central was also tough to play, but it was because of the fans riding you for six straight hours.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on February 01, 2006, 04:06:26 pm
I'm partial to the new Augie field as having the best playing surface...not the toughest place to play though (since students cant drink and get rowdy like @Carthage & @Millikin).  I think Carthage can be a very tough place to play due to it usually being sorta cold and windy.  IWU and NCC have great complexes but I think Augie's field is better (biased view).   

North Park's new field is crazy.  It's part of the football/baseball/softball megafield.  Right field fence is the football stands which runs straight to center.  Then, from there it's like playing little league in left field where behind the left fielder is the softball field.  If memory serves me right, the only fence they have in left is about 450 away and is the 3rd base backstop of the softball field.  Also, they have that "play" turf stuff that you see on football fields.  I was never a fan of that for fielding grounders because the ball seemed to skip off the rubber marbles in the "grass".  And little cutout dirt spots for bases never did it for me.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: titan missile on February 01, 2006, 05:07:16 pm
North Park should just find after conference to play in because they are terrible.
If they keep this 1-34 record up, one day they are going to be on ESPN NEWS for worst baseball team ever.

Here is some interesting information for you CCIW fans: 

Over the past two seasons, Aurora University is 12-0 against the CCIW.  With an 8-0 record against the CCIW in 2005, you could argue that AU won the NIIC and CCIW championships.

As for the quote above, how about for the 2006 season AU and North Park switch conferences?  Just a thought.


It's pretty hard to argue this given the pitching setups for non-conference games during the conference season.  CCIW teams pretty much throw their #4-8 pitchers during weekday non-conference games, and save their top of their rotation for the 3 weekend games that actually have meaning.  If a top dog does throw during the week, he is only going to get a couple innings to stay sharp.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: titan missile on February 01, 2006, 05:11:47 pm
Does NP still play inside the track?? It was tough place to play as a right fielder as you almost need to play in the infield.

I always thought that Carthage was also a tough place to place because of all the wind... and I played for Carthage!

North Central was also tough to play, but it was because of the fans riding you for six straight hours.

Conference weekends in April and May were always fun at the Jack.  The atmosphere there is pretty special, especially late in the season when the weather is nice and students are out.  Fans on the houses across the street with kegs and banners, and an occasional megaphone.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on February 01, 2006, 07:06:39 pm
I have to agree with Titan Missile. I know Carthage never threw their studs against non-conference opponents during the week. We played Ripon several times and you would have thought the legend Gordie Gillespie was playing for the DIII World Series. Carthage always saw their 1 or 2 while pitching their 5 or 6.

Aurora got the Redmen in the playoffs a couple of years ago so that may be included in the 12-0 record. But overall they never saw Carthage's best pitchers.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on February 02, 2006, 12:53:48 am
Should Aurora University move to the cciw?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on February 02, 2006, 08:33:34 am
You guys need to check some box scores for CCIW games vs Aurora.  I don't think the CCIW teams saw AU best pitchers either.  I'd take Salter over anyone in the CCIW.  And it doesn't look like they faced any #8 starters either. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2006, 12:09:59 pm
Weekend games are always about pitching and weekday(non-conference) games are all about offense. Wednesdays are usually full of 15-12 games and the weekends are full of 5-3 games. It is not a cut against either the CCIW or Aurora, just face the facts.

I think Aurora would be a great addition to the CCIW but one more team would have to be added to make it a 10 team league. Aurora would give the CCIW three legitimate top 25 team year in and year out. It would also hurt the chances for an extra at-large bid as extra losses for teams vs. Aurora would knock them down a peg in the regional rankings.

NP will not leave... they are a founding member of the conference. NP will be back in the CCIW race very soon. With the exception of IWU and Carthage, everyone has had some down years in the CCIW over the past 10-15 years... it happens, kids get hurt, recruits transfer, kids are not eligible... things happens and programs move on.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: titan missile on February 02, 2006, 03:50:38 pm
You guys need to check some box scores for CCIW games vs Aurora.  I don't think the CCIW teams saw AU best pitchers either.  I'd take Salter over anyone in the CCIW.  And it doesn't look like they faced any #8 starters either. 


My point was that you can't hand a team a conference crown in baseball (as "bohdi5" was alluding to) based on weekday non-conference games.  It's not a fair judge for either team as pitching is a crap-shoot during the week.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2006, 03:56:18 pm
[quote author=titan missile link=topic=4218.msg473954#msg473954 date=113891343


My point was that you can't hand a team a conference crown in baseball (as "bohdi5" was alluding to) based on weekday non-conference games.  It's not a fair judge for either team as pitching is a crap-shoot during the week.
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Agreed... there is a reason the games are played between the chalk lines.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 02, 2006, 06:48:23 pm
Hey, first time poster here. Should be a great season of baseball. In my biased opinion, I would say Carthage is going to take the conference in a close race this year. They have four transfer outfielders who all swing the bat very well, one from illiinois state, one from a juco in california, and ones from lacrosse and oshkosh. Infield should be solid again with primarily the same players. As for the pitching, transferJon Olson should be the ace of the staff. I played with him for many years. Throws in the 88-91 mph range with a great slider and very rarely walks anyone. Evosovich has been great the last two years, and if sophomore Jacob Husing's arm is ready, he could be the top pitcher in the conference, he had quite a few scouts watching him last year as a freshman. I know IWU lost their 2 top pitchers, any word on if they've gotten any good pitching?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on February 02, 2006, 09:43:48 pm
They have four transfer outfielders who all swing the bat very well, one from illiinois state, one from a juco in california, and ones from lacrosse and oshkosh.

What are the names of the guys that transferred from Oshkosh and LaCrosse??  Oshkosh didn't have any OF finish the season with an average above .297, so I really wonder what kind of impact this transfer will have. ::)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 03, 2006, 08:52:38 am
The transfer from oshkosh was asked to try out pitching last year at oshkosh, that is the main reason he transfered is because he wanted to play a position. He played with the Kenosha Kings this summer along with some other carthage players and hit the ball well for most of the summer. Plus, Coughlin adds a lefty bat which Augie always loves.  I know the ? about Carthage is their outfield, but with Tyler Creekmore returning after a solid freshman season and the four transfers who will all be working with Jarvis Brown (Carthage's outfield/hitting coach, former big league player who won a ring with the Twins), they should be just fine. Can these guys be as good as Kyle Mallon, Ryan McCulley, Johnny Meier, Dennis Jackson, and Pat Brown?? Who knows, those were some outstanding D-3 outfielders in recent memory. But I'm sure the outfield won't be a "weak spot" for the redmen this year. A little more about olson, some of the players in the cciw may have faced him last summer. He pitched for the Kenosha Kings as well, and started the all star game the previous summer in the Norhwoods League representing the Madison Mallards.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on February 03, 2006, 02:58:59 pm
David Hermes OF R/R 6-0 200 So.  Fort Atkinson, Wis. (Fort Atkinson/UW-La Crosse)
 
Steve Coughlin RF L/L 5-11 180 So. Sturtevant, Wis. (Salem-Westosha Central/UW-Oshkosh)
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2006, 03:47:47 pm
Does the CCIW do a pre-season coaches poll for baseball? I know they do for hoops.

It looks like the poll on this page has IWU and Carthage as the favorites. Tradition would seem to agree:

CCIW Baseball Titles:
IWU- 20
Carthage- 12
North Central- 9
Millikin- 8
Elmhurst-7
North Park -4
Augustana- 3
Wheaton-1

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on February 03, 2006, 04:09:09 pm
David Hermes OF R/R 6-0 200 So.  Fort Atkinson, Wis. (Fort Atkinson/UW-La Crosse)
 
Steve Coughlin RF L/L 5-11 180 So. Sturtevant, Wis. (Salem-Westosha Central/UW-Oshkosh)

Don't you think if either of these guys were "impact" transfers they would have played a bit more for both UW LaCrosse or UW Oshkosh last season?? 

Heck, UWL was a 12-27-1 team last year, and Hermes could only crack the line-up for 9 games (6 starts) and 24 AB's, which included 8 K's (1 out of every 3 AB's.)  At the same time, I have to believe Lechnir saw something in the Fall that made him think Coughlin couldn't hit at the College level, especially with the lack of quality bats UWO had last season (again, no OF hit over .297.)

If Carthage is looking for either of these guys to make an impact this season, it could be an uncharacteristically long season for them. ::)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2006, 04:19:54 pm
David Hermes OF R/R 6-0 200 So.  Fort Atkinson, Wis. (Fort Atkinson/UW-La Crosse)
 
Steve Coughlin RF L/L 5-11 180 So. Sturtevant, Wis. (Salem-Westosha Central/UW-Oshkosh)

Don't you think if either of these guys were "impact" transfers they would have played a bit more for both UW LaCrosse or UW Oshkosh last season?? 

Heck, UWL was a 12-27-1 team last year, and Hermes could only crack the line-up for 9 games (6 starts) and 24 AB's, which included 8 K's (1 out of every 3 AB's.)  At the same time, I have to believe Lechnir saw something in the Fall that made him think Coughlin couldn't hit at the College level, especially with the lack of quality bats UWO had last season (again, no OF hit over .297.)

If Carthage is looking for either of these guys to make an impact this season, it could be an uncharacteristically long season for them. ::)

Carthage Baseball comes down to one thing position players... you better swing it well. Augie's "Hit-or-Sit" philosophy scares his guys into working very hard in the off-season to ensure they get quality playing time. It seems to be a good formula for them. It may not work everywhjere, but it certainly does at Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on February 03, 2006, 04:31:46 pm
Carthage Baseball comes down to one thing position players... you better swing it well. Augie's "Hit-or-Sit" philosophy scares his guys into working very hard in the off-season to ensure they get quality playing time. It seems to be a good formula for them. It may not work everywhjere, but it certainly does at Carthage.
I totally agree with you.....  Lechnir is the same way, which makes me think Coughlin isn't going to have much of an impact as a hitter for Carthage.  Lechnir will find a place for you to play if you can hit, and live with the defensive struggles.  He had to have seen something last fall that made him switch Coughlin to a pitcher instead of a postion player.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on February 03, 2006, 05:51:47 pm
Does the CCIW do a pre-season coaches poll for baseball? I know they do for hoops.

It looks like the poll on this page has IWU and Carthage as the favorites. Tradition would seem to agree:

CCIW Baseball Titles:
IWU- 20
Carthage- 12
North Central- 9
Millikin- 8
Elmhurst-7
North Park -4
Augustana- 3
Wheaton-1



The CCIW, doesn't have a pre-season poll for baseball, I think they should have one, what do you guys think?.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2006, 05:53:25 pm

I totally agree with you.....  Lechnir is the same way, which makes me think Coughlin isn't going to have much of an impact as a hitter for Carthage.  Lechnir will find a place for you to play if you can hit, and live with the defensive struggles.  He had to have seen something last fall that made him switch Coughlin to a pitcher instead of a postion player.

Does the name Jeff Zappa ring a bell... guy could flat out Mash and they stuck him in left field for four years to try get his bat in the game. I think he was a 3or 4 tima all-american at UWO (not bad teams at UWO... Jorgensen, Leider, Zappa and Jarrod Washburn, all 1st team All-Americans in 1995)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on February 03, 2006, 06:40:07 pm
I totally agree with you.....  Lechnir is the same way, which makes me think Coughlin isn't going to have much of an impact as a hitter for Carthage.  Lechnir will find a place for you to play if you can hit, and live with the defensive struggles.  He had to have seen something last fall that made him switch Coughlin to a pitcher instead of a postion player.
Does the name Jeff Zappa ring a bell... guy could flat out Mash and they stuck him in left field for four years to try get his bat in the game. I think he was a 3or 4 tima all-american at UWO (not bad teams at UWO... Jorgensen, Leider, Zappa and Jarrod Washburn, all 1st team All-Americans in 1995)
Zappa was a two time All American in 95 and 96. 

Wouldn't you agree then that if Coughlin was much of a hitter, he'd have gotten a chance in the field for Lechnir??  I just have a hard time seeing him have much of an imapct for Augie.  Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 03, 2006, 06:47:49 pm
Though I would never count a kid out, transfers rarely have the impact they are expected to within the same divisions and levels of teams in NCAA. It is a whole different thing if they move from D1 to D3 or transfer from Carthage or OWO into a tiny school in a weaker conference.

Both Carthage and UWO are top notch programs and I doubt Lechnir would leave a quality bat on the pines... BUT never say never. Some kids just need a change of scenery to make it happen.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 04, 2006, 12:21:22 pm
I understand all the questions about these 2 guys not playing much or at all at uw-oshkosh and lacrosse. I guess we'll have to wait and see how they do. I completely agree that a player might just need a change of scenery, or maybe their previous coach just had them in the doghouse, who knows. I watched several kings games this summer, I would say the pitching is at cciw level, some pitchers obviously even better, and both hit around .300 with wood bats. I hope they both do well at Carthage, we'll have to wait and see. I'm sure the transfers from illinois state and the juco in california will their chances to show what they can do right away. Any word yet on if wesleyan has any pitchers to fill in for lapinski and himes? Lapinski was a heck of a hitter too don't forget, I think he led their team in homeruns.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 05, 2006, 05:04:22 pm
I know it is cold and snowy, but baseball season has officially started.

Chapman and Cal Lutheran squared off in a three game series this weekend and Chapman took 2 of 3 winning the opener 7-3... Cal Lutheran came back to beat them 11-10 in the second game and Chapman took the third game 6-4. It's nice to have baseball back again.

Chapman does not look to have as solid of a pitching staff as they had in years past with the exception of returning All-American, Buddy Klovstad... he looked great Friday night throwing seven solid innings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 07, 2006, 01:38:20 pm
Did any teams lose any players to grades??? I know many things change over the course of the first semester and Interim classes.

What have you guys heard?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 11:48:22 am
Can't wait for the Carthage/Oshkosh doubleheader over spring break, should be a great two games.  It will be very interesting to see what carthage does as far as pitching, seeing they play #2 Cortland state in a double header the day before.  Although I feel these trips are important to getting your season started off right, its hard to measure exactly where you are because you are starting some guys  on the mound who may rarely pitch the rest of the season. I would say if carthage could split with both of these teams, that would show that they are for real this year.  Its always cool to see Augie and Lechnir get together for some games. They are traditionally two of the top teams in the country, and I think they should play yearly.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2006, 12:47:48 pm
Can't wait for the Carthage/Oshkosh doubleheader over spring break, should be a great two games.  It will be very interesting to see what carthage does as far as pitching, seeing they play #2 Cortland state in a double header the day before.  Although I feel these trips are important to getting your season started off right, its hard to measure exactly where you are because you are starting some guys  on the mound who may rarely pitch the rest of the season. I would say if carthage could split with both of these teams, that would show that they are for real this year.  Its always cool to see Augie and Lechnir get together for some games. They are traditionally two of the top teams in the country, and I think they should play yearly.
I like it even more if they would meet in the World Series (like in 1993, 1994, 1995). Oshkosh won all three times, but it was great for Wisconsin baseball to have two of the eight teams at the dance.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 01:45:43 pm
That would be great to see. I know carthage made it during the 2002 season, but 2003 was really the year i thought they had a chance. Carthage was ranked number 2 most of the year, and then got shafted and had to go to mississippi and play in a ten team regional.  I realize hey they still had their chance, but if there was ever a year I felt they could have beaten anybody, especially with grybash or dusty on the mound, that was the year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 01:47:19 pm
Maybe it was an 8 team instead of 6 team, but either way i know there were two more teams than most regional tournaments had
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on February 09, 2006, 01:48:15 pm
I like it even more if they would meet in the World Series (like in 1993, 1994, 1995). Oshkosh won all three times, but it was great for Wisconsin baseball to have two of the eight teams at the dance.
Ahhhh.......... the good ole' days......  It sure has been awhile since they have both even been to the Series, much less play each other.  Since 1998, UWO has made two trips (1998 and 2003,)  while Carthage has been there only once in the last 8 years (2002.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on February 09, 2006, 01:58:46 pm
Carthage was ranked number 2 most of the year, and then got shafted.  I realize hey they still had their chance, but if there was ever a year I felt they could have beaten anybody, especially with grybash or dusty on the mound, that was the year.
You want to talk about getting shafted, how about in 1999 when Oshkosh had to use wood bats at Regionals, while St. Thomas and St. Scholastica were swinging aluminum.  UWO dropped two games to St. Thomas losing 3-2 and 4-3 to end their season at 34-4.  St. Thomas went on to be National Runner-Ups losing to North Carolina Wesleyan 1-0 in the championship.  UWO went on to have five players drafted, including their top 3 pitchers (Craig Glysch, Kevin Grater, and Jack Taschner-current San Francisco Giant) and their RF (Sean Parnell) and C (Casey Kopitzke.)  No one will ever tell me that team wasn't THE BEST in the Nation in 1999.  Give both teams wood bats or aluminum bats and there defintely would have been a different outcome.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2006, 03:40:41 pm
Carthage was ranked number 2 most of the year, and then got shafted.  I realize hey they still had their chance, but if there was ever a year I felt they could have beaten anybody, especially with grybash or dusty on the mound, that was the year.
You want to talk about getting shafted, how about in 1999 when Oshkosh had to use wood bats at Regionals, while St. Thomas and St. Scholastica were swinging aluminum. 

Give both teams wood bats or aluminum bats and there defintely would have been a different outcome.

The WIAC chose to use wood bats ONLY that season... it was their own doing. Don't blame the other schools for choosing aluminum. It would not have been fair to ask them to swing wood in the tourney, and UWO singed a contract saying they would only use wood. I do not dispute they were a loaded team, but they got caught with a great team in a year that they could not swing aluminum.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 04:01:49 pm
Wow, I never knew about that whole wood bat thing in 1999. Any word on how that big lefty from oshkosh is doing? I believe his name was Jordan Timm. Any Opinions on whether or not Augie and Lechnir will throw their top 2 against eachother, or throw them against Cortland State and throw whos ever arm is ready the day the two schools square off.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on February 09, 2006, 04:15:10 pm
The WIAC chose to use wood bats ONLY that season... it was their own doing. Don't blame the other schools for choosing aluminum.
I'm not blaming the other schools..... I was putting the blame on the WIAC.  If the WIAC was still using wood bats today, it may be a different story, however for them to use wood bats for one year and switch back to aluminum (when the aluminum bats BESR was the same) made pretty much no sense. 

I have a feeling both UWO and UWSP were both pretty "hot" after Regionals and voiced their opinions to the conference.  I would guess that it may have had something to do with the sudden change back to aluminum.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2006, 04:44:25 pm
Wow, I never knew about that whole wood bat thing in 1999. Any word on how that big lefty from oshkosh is doing? I believe his name was Jordan Timm. Any Opinions on whether or not Augie and Lechnir will throw their top 2 against eachother, or throw them against Cortland State and throw whos ever arm is ready the day the two schools square off.

Carthage usually throws their #1/2 on day one, #3/4 on day two, etc... Whoever happens to fall on that day will get the starts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 04:55:26 pm
I know thats what they usually do, it makes the most sense.  Just looked at their (Carthage's) schedule.Their first game is on a Saturday, and they play Cortland State Tuesday so obviously their top 2 won't be ready. They play oshkosh on wednesday then, so depending on how many innings their 1 & 2 go on that first Saturday, maybe they will be ready for the titans.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on February 09, 2006, 05:33:27 pm
I must have slept through this segment of the show...when did Augie and Lechnir start liking one another?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2006, 06:11:54 pm
I must have slept through this segment of the show...when did Augie and Lechnir start liking one another?

Believe it or not, they are somewhat cordial... at least they used to be. I am not sure if things have changed at all. I know for quite a while they had some trough recruiting wars going on. Often, people associate competitiveness with dislike and lack of respect.

Hey Irish... any updates on the player we previously talked about??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 06:12:27 pm
Irish, from what I know and have heard, I have been told they actually get along quite well. I used to think as well for some reason they didn't like eachother. However, I've been told they get along just fine and actually talk every once in a while to talk baseball... I could be wrong, but from who I heard it from I doubt it. By the way, how's Pat? I played football one year with him my sophomore year when I transferred to Carthage.  As much as I went against him with the starting 1's on offense and defense on the field in practice, i never picked him off once! Also played baseball one year with him (well actually watched from the dugout in a uniform next to augie listening to him just waiting for the next great one liner to come out of him mouth! :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2006, 08:17:24 pm
Also played baseball one year with him (well actually watched from the dugout in a uniform next to augie listening to him just waiting for the next great one liner to come out of him mouth! :D

Do any of these sound familiar?:

 "This is like a sore D!@k, you just can't beat it." or

"Son, you're gonna hurt your neck throwing the ball over the plate against this guy"

"Domin, go get thrown out of the game!"

"If baseball was a game of rah-rah, we would have cheerleaders in the dugout... shut your mouths and hit."

I am sure there are many, many more out there.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 09, 2006, 08:47:50 pm
The "Augieisms" are really never ending. We all know Augie loves to hit, and last year our strength was obviously pitching.  We're winning games 4-1, and 5-2, and you could tell he just missed those 15-8 games when the mentality was simply "you can't score more than us."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 09, 2006, 09:11:08 pm
I remember playing a game at North Park in the bitter cold one year and Augie was so angry about us winning game one by a score of 2-1 that he forbade us to cheer at all in the second game. Our dugout was dead silent for seven innings and all you could hear was Augie talking to himself for three hours. At one point, Jack Richarz hit his first college homerun as a senior and he refused to let us go out to congratulate him... now that I think back on it, those times were hilarious.

That guy still cracks me up.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on February 10, 2006, 11:13:49 am
Any word on how that big lefty from oshkosh is doing? I believe his name was Jordan Timm.

Here are his numbers from last season:

Jordan Timm: Individual Stats (Pitching)
Team From To          W L      ERA     G  GS   SV        IP    H      R    ER   HR    BB     SO
Dunedin Blue Jays    0  0    16.20      1   0      0      1.2    2      3     3      1      1      1
Auburn Doubledays  0 1     6.75        1   1      0      4.0    5      3     3      0      1      4
Lansing Lugnuts      2 0     2.47      18   4      5     47.1    39    16   13     2    16     44


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 10, 2006, 01:24:39 pm
Thanks, looks like he's doing very well where he was at most of they year, got roughed up a little bit at the higher levels, but he only pitched a few innings there.... Former Carthage Catcher Kevin Sullivan was signed by the cubs organization, and will most likely end up in AA or AAA. There was a big write up about it in the kenosha news a few weeks back.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on February 10, 2006, 02:13:13 pm
Redmenfan...I remember you! Your Dad tailgated with us several times at the football games. I think I remember your football debut. Didn't you have a couple of picks to start your Carthage career?

Pat is doing well. I know he misses competitive sports. He started playing softball this past summer with guys he went to high school with. He told me that he and the Grybash brothers are coming up for the weekend to see Augie and the boys. Kenosha's in trouble this weekend!!

Poppa...he is definitely academically ineligible! Tough blow to the Redmen!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 10, 2006, 03:25:49 pm


Poppa...he is definitely academically ineligible! Tough blow to the Redmen!

That one hurts... I guess we will find out how deep they are right away, huh?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 10, 2006, 05:59:04 pm
First off, I know who you two are talking about, known since I helped with the Christmas baseball camps over break, and that is definately a huge blow. Irish, my second game as a redmen I had two picks, my first was a terrible one because we lost to the school I transferred from. Hate to bring back painful memories, but we were up and the converted a 4th and 18 or 19 with 2 minutes left and went on to win, pretty much summing up that season and the one after, play good enough to almost win, but not quite good enough to win. Hopefully I see pat, I'm at Johnny's house quite a bit so hopefully we all meet up. Hope to see you at some games this year?? I am student teaching so could not play this year, already miss listening to Augie every day and horsing around with Jarvis
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 10, 2006, 06:41:46 pm
Anybody have any predictions for the players of the year in the conference?

Best Player?
Best Pitcher?
Best Hitter(AVG)?
Best Hitter(power)?
Best Defensive Player?

I am curious to know what people think of the returning talent in the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 11, 2006, 10:12:29 am
Best pitcher I'm gonna have to say senior Jon Olson from Carthage. I think he will have a very similar year statistic wise as Dan Grybash had his junior year (Grybash was 9-0 with a 1 something ERA.) When you can touch 90-91 and compliment it with above average off speed tough, I don't care who you are, as long as you throw strikes you are going to be successful at the D-3 level. Just look at Hymes from Wesleyan last year. He threw hard, but I would say that's about all he did, which was enough to get it done most of the time. Hopefully he can learn some good off speed stuff in the Astros organization.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 11, 2006, 10:14:03 am
sorry, in a hurry, that's supposed to be "off speed stuff"
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on February 11, 2006, 10:31:30 am
REDMENFAN,

Himes was not the one that threw hard.  That was Cory Lapinski.  It is also completely unfair to say that is all he did.  He also had a tight little breaking ball that kept people off balance all day.  Sure, throwing hard is probably what got him drafted but if all he did was throw fastballs, then his stats would not have been what they were.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 11, 2006, 10:36:48 am
Augie Superfan,

Yes I know Lapinski was the hard throwing lefty with an amazing breaking ball, I should know I watched him shove it to us twice last year. Hymes was the tall righty, probably about 6'5'' or 6'6'' who was clocked several times last year in the CCIW tournament and hit 90, we hit him pretty hard though because his off speed pitches were not very good at all, and Carthage loves the fastball if that's primarily all you have. Actually, both got drafted and are in the Astros organization...look it up.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on February 11, 2006, 02:11:55 pm
I heard that North Central College had about 12 players quit the baseball team this year and mainly the whole in fields are freshman.  Did anyone else hear anything about this?  What do you guys think, will North Central College be as good as last year’s team.   ???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 11, 2006, 06:22:09 pm
Check out this interesting list on the Carthage web page:

Do any of the teams listed surprise you, as far as winning percentage? Marietta is amazing!!

I highlighted the Central Region teams.

 
 By Percentage
 W-L-T
 Pct.
 
1.
 Marietta
 617-127-3
 .8280
 
2.
 Wisconsin-Oshkosh
 475-142-2
 .7690

3.
 Aurora
 459-152-2
 .7504

 
4.
 Ferrum
 417-139-1
 .7496
 
5.
 Johns Hopkins
 449-155-1
 .7430
 
6.
 Wooster
 497-171-4
 .7426
 
7.
 Southwestern (Texas)
 345-122-0
 .7388
 
 
 St. Scholastica
 366-130-0
 .7379
 
8.
 Carthage
 497-176-4
 .7371
 
9.
 SUNY-Cortland
 459-164-1
 .7364
 
10.
 Eastern Connecticut State
 491-178-1
 .7336
 
11.
 Ohio Wesleyan
 495-183-4
 .7288
 
12.
 Dallas
 205-79-1
 .7211
 
13.
 Bridgewater State (Mass.)
 408-160-4
 .7168
 
14.
 Allegheny
 443-180-2
 .7104
 
15.
 Chapman
 316-130-1
 .7081
 
16.
 Southern Maine
 464-191-3
 .7075
 
17.
 Mary Washington
 373-155-1
 .7061
 
18.
 St. Thomas (Minn.)
 443-188-1
 .7017
 
19.
 College of New Jersey
 416-171-7
 .7012
 
20.
 North Carolina Wesleyan
 460-207-1
 .6894

 
27.
 St. Olaf
 290-136-0
 .6808
 
 
29.
 Wisconsin-Whitewater
 383-195-3
 .6618

41.
 Simpson
 347-210-1
 .6223
 
42.
 Wisconsin-Stevens Point
 348-211-4
 .6217
 
47.
 Monmouth
 292-183-1
 .6145
 
48.
 Marian (Wis.)
 399-262-2
 .6033
 
49.
 Wartburg
 357-236-3
 .6015
 
51.
 Illinois Wesleyan
 367-245-3
 .5992
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on February 11, 2006, 08:12:59 pm
REDMENFAN,

Don't get all upset man...I thought you were just mixing up the 2.  Personally, I don't think Himes threw that hard but maybe he did.  I know they are both playing in the Astros system so I don't know how that came up as me having to look it up.  And, his last name is HIMES...look it up
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 12, 2006, 12:37:48 pm
Really didn't mean it as sounding upset, sorry if it came out that way. I don't post to try and make people upset, just enjoy the baseball chat
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on February 12, 2006, 10:18:06 pm
Here is the Augie preview...

http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/baseball/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1138401031&archive=1139363034&start_from=&ucat=2&
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 14, 2006, 06:01:33 pm
The season is less than a month away! Any injury reports or anything like that? I watched Carthage practice for a while yesterday hitting live in the cages. So far, so good as far as injuries are concerned. Talked to some guys and they said Jacob husing has been throwing off the mound, and throwing GAS so that's very positive to hear. If his arm is healthy enough to be a weekend starter, look out. With Olson, Evosovich, and Husing (who if healthy could very well be the best pitcher in the conference) the Redmen should have a very successful season. Olson/Husing back to back could very well be like Grybash/Dusty Reed back to back in 2003 when both went undefeated.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 14, 2006, 07:21:21 pm
Olson/Husing back to back could very well be like Grybash/Dusty Reed back to back in 2003 when both went undefeated.

No body is a bigger backer than me of the mighty Redmen(not Red Men), but that statement is just giving others a reason to hang it on the bulletinboard to use for motivation. The CCIW is tough enough... don't give others a reason to try even harder to beat the Redmen.

I agree that the Big Red Machine is once again loaded with arms, but two guys going undefeated in the CCIW on the same team is very tough.

Title: Did Elmhurst hire Mike Woodard?
Post by: Dirty Dozen on February 15, 2006, 07:49:12 am
I had heard that Mike Woodard was hired at Elmhurst College to coach infielders?  If this is true, what a great hire for Coach Clark Jones.  Mike played in the big leagues for San Francisco, Oakland, White Sox, Indians, and I think he may have even played for the Yankees at one time.  Most recently I think he was coaching at one of the Proviso schools?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 15, 2006, 08:47:14 am
I find it pretty hard to believe that teams would use something written on a chat board from a fan as bulletin board material. Now if they saw something in a newspaper that was said by an actual player or something, maybe it would be different. All I'm trying to say is that these two, if they both remain healthy, could have outstanding years. Maybe I'm going out on a limb saying they have a chance to both go undefeathed through the CCIW, but ya never know. Heck, they could both very well lose their first games in the conference. I guess what I should have said is the talent level and potential of these two have the makings to possibly be as good as Grybash and Dusty
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2006, 11:14:04 am
You might be amazed at what ends up in dugouts... I heard that Chapman hanging chatroom postings(from this site) in their dugout last weekend right before they went out and pounded Pomona-Pitzer.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 15, 2006, 01:22:22 pm
Well Big Poppa, either way, no matter how motivated you get, I don't think posting something in a locker room or hitting room is going to help you hit a baseball when you step to the plate. In football it might make you hit harder at first, in basketball it might make you play more physical and give more effort, but I don't see how getting all jacked up is going to help you hit a baseball. If you are thinking about something that was said in a chatroom when you are in the batters box, chances are you aren't going to get on base.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: titan missile on February 15, 2006, 01:58:09 pm
Well Big Poppa, either way, no matter how motivated you get, I don't think posting something in a locker room or hitting room is going to help you hit a baseball when you step to the plate. In football it might make you hit harder at first, in basketball it might make you play more physical and give more effort, but I don't see how getting all jacked up is going to help you hit a baseball. If you are thinking about something that was said in a chatroom when you are in the batters box, chances are you aren't going to get on base.

I strongly disagree with that statement. 

For one, baseball is such a mental game.  Motivation only intensifies it.  When a team is stongly motivated, it gives them a big edge.  Just like getting "up" for big games against top opponents or rivals, you only add fuel to the fire.

I'm not saying your words really did this, just thought I would chime in on this topic.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 15, 2006, 02:37:09 pm
Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. When the conference season starts, if anyone who talks to any coaches or players regularly in the CCIW and find out stuff from this site has been being posted for motivation, then let us all know and I will be surprised but admit I was wrong. Titan missle, I agree with you that when you are playing a disliked opponent or playing a rivalry game or something like that, intesity and focus is a huge part of baseball. Any of you who played know its a lot different playing a non conference team you don't know much about instead of a team who consider a rival (like Carthage and Wesleyan is becoming.) However, I still don't think there is any chance players would care, let alone take offense to something that fans are saying in a chat room. If I knew my comments would've have stirred things up, I would've have posted them earlier to get more people posting! ;) This site is mostly opinion and what we as fans think, and there's no harm in disagreeing and debating with each other, it just makes the board that much more interesting.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2006, 03:37:36 pm
Redmenfan... I guess it just comes down to a matter principle for me. I would rather shut my mouth and not wake a sleeping dog than to announce to the world that I am in the room.

We each have our own methods to our madness...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 15, 2006, 04:05:23 pm
Guess you're right. Dont forget, every team in the conference has a website that has stats posted, so its not like coaches and players won't know what they're going up against before the games are played. I've said Carthage's 3 weekend pitchers should be the strength of the team as long as they stay healthy, Evosovich has proven himself the last 2 years, and Olson and Husing both throw hard and SHOULD be very successful.  If there's something wrong with that, then I apologize
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2006, 04:28:32 pm
I hope you are right on the Carthage pitching... I sit by my computer during the season or call the SID directly to get in-game updates.

You will rarely find a bigger fan than I...

Death, taxes  and Carthage Baseball Victories!!!
Title: Re: Did Elmhurst hire Mike Woodard?
Post by: Sweetness on February 15, 2006, 04:32:59 pm
Mike Woodard is doing a very good job with the infielders and hitters.  Elmhurst will have a very tough infield this year.
Title: Mike Woodard
Post by: Sweetness on February 15, 2006, 04:38:11 pm
Elmhurst hire Mike Woodard as there infield coach, what do you guys think about that?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: coachb on February 15, 2006, 04:41:19 pm
Redmenfan... over the last week, you have angered nearly everyone on this board. Titanmissle, Bigpoppa, and Augie2000 have all been cordial and allowed you to backpedal on your statements.

If you had any idea who these guys truly were, I doubt you would engage in such childish tactics  with them. I know one for sure is a well-respected college coach.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on February 15, 2006, 06:23:34 pm
Who's Mike Woodard?
Title: Re: Mike Woodard
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2006, 06:40:30 pm
Elmhurst hire Mike Woodard as there infield coach, what do you guys think about that?
It is a good move for Elmhurst.. nothing too exciting, but it will not hurt them at all. I belive that makes two CCIW assistants with big league experience... Carthage's Jarvis Brown being the other.

It makes the CCIW that much tougher.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 15, 2006, 07:58:16 pm
CoachB,

Childish Tactics such as...

Like I stated earlier, this message board is for people to state their opinions, and for other posters to as well, and then debate about the topics being discussed. I've already said I'm on here because I simply enjoy the baseball chat, and in no way would want to anger anyone or sound disrespectful. As far as if I knew who these guys were, why would I not share my opinion with these guys? If one is a respectful coach that's great, i'm sure he can share a lot of knowledge on this board, hopefully he's just not a coach in the CCIW for obvious reasons, this is supposed to be for fans only i'm sure, and not for players and coaches that coach at this level. Since all my talk about how I think Carthage will have a strong pitching staff and good team this year has caused many problems in the way i stated it, I just won't talk about their pitching until the season starts, maybe then I won't make any childish or ridiculous statements.....As far as Elmhurst getting a former big leaguer as a coach, that is great for their program. I know first hand Jarvis Brown is absolutely amazing with the outfielders at Carthage, and love him or hate him, find me a coach out there who knows as much about hitting as Augie. Few more short weeks and CCIW baseball is here!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 16, 2006, 03:49:07 pm
Redmenfan... don't worry. I take no offense to your comments.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 16, 2006, 04:25:23 pm
Who are the top three players at each position in the CCIW?

Starting Pitchers?
Closers?

Outfielders?

Middle infielders?

Corner infielders?

Catchers?


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 16, 2006, 05:31:31 pm
I don't know if they have graduated or not, but wesleyan's 3rd baseman last year was solid in the field and an amazing hitter, and ther little leadoff guy who plays short stop is a very tough out. I also thought defensively, Augastana's shortstop was has solid and smooth as they come, but I'm almost positive he was a senior.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: titan missile on February 16, 2006, 06:28:46 pm
I don't know if they have graduated or not, but wesleyan's 3rd baseman last year was solid in the field and an amazing hitter, and ther little leadoff guy who plays short stop is a very tough out. I also thought defensively, Augastana's shortstop was has solid and smooth as they come, but I'm almost positive he was a senior.

I think the 3B you're referring to Mick Curran who did graduate.  He was their leading hitter at the plate and played a very solid corner for them.  He will be missed.  I will be interested to see who steps up into the 3B position for them.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 17, 2006, 08:43:21 am
That will definitely be a tough whole to fill losing Curran. With Curran and Lapinski out of the lineup, and Lapinski and Himes out of the rotation, any word on if the Titans have some capable replacements, whether it be transfers, recruits, or guys who have waited for their turn to get a shot. That's two pitchers that are in the minors and probably over 20 homeruns and a lot of RBI's to make up for.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 21, 2006, 04:08:10 pm
I had this discussion with a friend last night... who is the better hitter, Roy Hobbes (The Natural) or Kelly Leek (Bad News Bears)?



Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: matblake on February 21, 2006, 04:56:54 pm
I would have to go with Hobbes.  Leek did not have a supernatural bat (which would be strike against Hobbes), but he also did not have a lengthy layoff and return to prominence.  I can't remember, in the original Bad News Bears, were they still using wooden bats?  I know in the new one the Little Leaguers had made the transition to aluminum.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 21, 2006, 05:51:49 pm
The original Bad News Bear swung the lumber... only the best for Kelly Leek.

One of things I find interesting is that Leek was able to drive a motorcycle to his Little League games while smoking(as a 12 year old!)... I may have to give a slight nod to Hobbes for taking better care of his body during the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on February 26, 2006, 03:54:49 am
Augustana starts their season in about 8.5 hours versus Hanover College.  For Augie's frist trip down south, they play, Hanover, Alma (2), Dubuque (2), and Clarke...not the toughest spring trip but the usual for Augie.  I'll try to get the updates from the guys whenever I can get ahold of them. 

In 2 more weeks, Augie returns to Florida and plays Greenville (2), St. Joe's (don't know fro where, maybe Maine), and Stevens Point.

Good luck Augie!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augiefan on February 26, 2006, 03:37:23 pm
Augie plays the mighty Golden Eagles of St.Joseph's College in Suffolk, NY.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 26, 2006, 08:37:02 pm
Two separate spring trips?? Wow, fundraising must have went well for them this year!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augiefan on February 27, 2006, 05:36:07 pm
Augie beat Hanover 6-3 to open their season yesterday. Kevin Kuntz was the winning pitcher going 6 innings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 27, 2006, 06:04:13 pm
Augie beat Hanover 6-3 to open their season yesterday. Kevin Kuntz was the winning pitcher going 6 innings.

Very nice... the CCIW is off to a 1-0 start... the more wins in the CCIW, the better when it comes to Pool C bids later in the year. I hope everyone has a great spring trip and pushes the CCIW to the top of the list.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on February 27, 2006, 11:10:02 pm
Two separate spring trips?? Wow, fundraising must have went well for them this year!


We have taken 2 separate spring trips the past 3 years...our early spring break always causes us to miss out on some good teams that have breaks later on.  We always fly down the second time on a thursday and play Friday, Saturday and Sunday and then fly back.  We had to pay some extra money and usually took part in some fundraising events throughout the year to make money.  My junior year we actually got to fly down both times which was nice to avoid that 24 hour bus ride down there.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 28, 2006, 08:39:48 am
I forgot that Augustana has the tri-mesters, so their breaks are at different times. Hey, if you can afford to go down south twice, why not? Good for the players and I'm sure the coaches have a good time as well after the games
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on February 28, 2006, 10:11:34 am
I've also heard that Augie's travel expenses other than FLA are low.  They only have one non conference road game (Loras).  Most schools are willing to travel to play at a nice field like Augie has.  Also, it looks like only one overnight road conference trip. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: zorbadagreek on February 28, 2006, 12:49:28 pm
Whatever happened to Brian Mosher of carthage?? Is he still coaching??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: superstar on February 28, 2006, 02:50:19 pm
congrats to kevin kuntz on the win.  representing streator, il. 

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 28, 2006, 02:54:16 pm
Whatever happened to Brian Mosher of carthage?? Is he still coaching??

Mosher left Carthage and currently resides in the Atlanta area.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 28, 2006, 03:49:10 pm
Mosher "Moe" was let go and Cory Everts took his place last year. I don't know exactly what happened with the situation, i heard a few different stories. Cory Everts was a former All American Pitcher at Carthage, and really knows a lot about the game from a pitching perspective. He ran a training facility in appleton for a few years, and I know trained several pro athletes, so he is also in charge of the off-season and in season workouts for the redmen.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on February 28, 2006, 08:03:25 pm
Augie lost on Monday 10-6 to Alma (MI).  Augie pounded out 15 hits but the pitching was not very good and they defense gave up 3 unearned runs.  Brandon Engle took the loss.  One encouraging note was the good relief pitching by Kevin Fogelsong (2.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 1 K).  He sat out the entire year last year with a torn labrum so hopefully this is a good sign of a return to health and strentgh in the throwing shoulder. 

Augie really should've beaten this Alma team but they will get another shot tomorrow. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 28, 2006, 08:14:20 pm
Is Augustana now at 1-1 on the season?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on February 28, 2006, 09:07:35 pm
Is Augustana now at 1-1 on the season?

Yes they are
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 01, 2006, 08:05:53 pm
Word from the guys is that Augie won 21-12 over Alma (MI) today....I didn't get any details but the boxscore will probably be posted sometime tomorrow.  Augie now goes to 2-1.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 01, 2006, 08:15:54 pm
Sounds like it was a classic pitchers duel!! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 01, 2006, 09:08:38 pm
Word from the guys is that Augie won 21-12 over Alma (MI) today....I didn't get any details but the boxscore will probably be posted sometime tomorrow.  Augie now goes to 2-1.

Giving up 12 runs to Alma makes me wonder how deep the Augie bullpen is!?! Unless it was just one of those days...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augiefan on March 01, 2006, 10:20:06 pm
Augie lost to Alma yesterday by a 10-6 score. High scoring early spring games do not mean much. Midwest pitchers have no time to get into shape until April at the earliest.

Alma was horrible last year, but they have a new coach who is very good. Formerly coached at Ferris State. Nevertheless, losing a game by any score to a rebuilding Alma team is not encouraging.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 02, 2006, 09:16:33 pm
Augie split a DH today vs. Dubuque...they are now 3-2 on the season.  Andrew Setter threw a complete game 6 hitter in a game 1 win, 6-2.  They lost the second game 8-6 after leading 5-1. 

So far on the season, Augie is hitting .372 as a team but only have a 5.77 team ERA.

One thing of interest is that 3 freshman have started in the infield so far but they are all swinging the stick pretty well so far.

The catcher situation seems to be a problem as expected.  They already have 7 passed balls in 5 games whereas they only had 24 passed balls al of last season.  Also, opponents are 12-12 on stolen bases so far.  I also wonder if the inexperienced catchers are causing the pitching to be worse off than expected.

Hopefully Augie can get all of their lineups settled and figure out what will work for them so they can start playing some better ball.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2006, 09:26:07 pm
3-2 versus the likes of Hanover, Alma and Dubuque does not bode well for the Vikings in the CCIW. All three of those teams would  finish near the bottom of the CCIW.

Augie needs to find a catcher quickly. If they cannot throw anybody out, it is going to be a long year for the pitchers who try to hold runners close.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 03, 2006, 02:42:31 am
How does Augustana lose a game against Dubuque University?  When Dubuque has 6 errors in the game.  ???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 03, 2006, 08:40:23 am
I agree. Augustana will win some games this year in conference if they keep swinging the bat like they are, but they won't compete to win the conference if they can't find a descent catcher this year. I would say its  to early to judge their pitching, especially with the catching situation.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 03, 2006, 09:07:53 am
Yeah, this is one of the worst spring trips for Augie since I have been paying attention to them.  I think the worst trip when I was there was 8-2 or something like that.  Augie has 2 very solid pitchers in Andrew Setter and Kevin Kuntz.  After that, they don't have many people that have thrown too many innings on the varsity level in previous years.  Last year's closer, Brandon Engle, pitched great last year but has struggled at the start this year.  I don't want to get too worried about things now because it is early on.  The conference season is what really matters.

The one problem that could be manifesting itself is the fact that Augie has only had a few weeks of "official practice".  When I played, we always started the baseball season the 2nd week of January and by the time we went to Florida, the pitchers had 6-7 weeks to get our arms into shape and building up some stamina.  With the NCAA passing legislation in previous years to shorten the season, Augie's practice time is down to something like 3-4 weeks. 

This is obviously not an excuse for a loss becaue the other teams are playing by the same rules too...but it might just show why the Augie pitchers have not pitched so well yet.  Lets hope it all changes by the time they return to playing baseball back at home.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 03, 2006, 09:42:43 am
Gotta love the NCAAs attempt to shorten the season, but all it is really shortening is the careers of pitchers... they need the extra time to get in game shape.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 03, 2006, 11:05:46 am
Another tough part about the spring trip is often teams from up north don't even practice outside at all before they play their first game, and only so much can be done indoors in a gym, especially for outfielders. I know that this week for Carthage they have finally started to go out on the football field which has astroplay and take some grounders and fly balls. Take UW-Parkside for example. They are the preseason #16 team in D-2, and went 0-3 down in Kentucky last weekend against teams from down south. This was their first time playing ball outdoors, that defanitely makes a difference when you are playing teams that have the luxury of being able to practice outdoors during february and the beginning of march.
Title: IWU
Post by: TitanRailer on March 03, 2006, 12:07:08 pm
Nice article in the Pantagraph on the IWU season outlook, which begins this weekend...

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2006/03/03/sports/108094.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 03, 2006, 01:33:27 pm
It looks like Wesleyan's season will depend on how their 6 senior pitchers perform this year, along with a few others.  Seems like they should still have a pretty solid hitting team, but it will take some getting used to playing and never being able to say "well Lapinski's on the mound we're gonna win as long as we score  2 or 3 runs."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 03, 2006, 04:29:16 pm
Anybody know how Augie did today? It is not posted on their page yet. They played against Clarke today at 9:30 am.

I am hoping that the CCIW teams all fare well this weekend to help the conference out during selection time (Pool C)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 03, 2006, 10:58:50 pm
Nope...I do not know.  I couldn't get ahold of the guys this evening.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 04, 2006, 11:52:14 am
Augie beat Clarke yesterday 10-6....they finished up their 1st spring trip with a record of 4-2
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 04, 2006, 05:31:26 pm
Millikin split with Greenville yesterday

IWU plays a DH against Greenville today

NPU lost the 1st game of a DH today (10-4) vs. Franklin College
Title: Intersting stats...
Post by: BigPoppa on March 04, 2006, 07:23:40 pm
I did a little research today and found these stats on the CCIW in the National Tourneys...

Augie: 2-2
Carthage: 37-26
Elmhurst: 6-8
IWU: 9-9
Millikin: 0-0
NCC: 15-13
NPU: 11-10
Wheaton: 0-0

Overall the CCIW is 80-68(.548) at the national level. I wonder how many other conferenes stack up that well. I would assume the WIAC may and whichever conference Marrietta plays in. It would be interesting to find out.
Title: IWU
Post by: TitanRailer on March 05, 2006, 02:35:33 pm
IWU swept Greenville yesterday, 6-5 and 7-1.

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2006/03/05/sports/108268.txt
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 05, 2006, 10:42:41 pm
North Park split a doubleheader with Franklin on Saturday and dropped a single contest to DePauw on Sunday.  The Vikings begin their spring break trip to Phoenix with a contest against Keene State College on Saturday, March 11.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 06, 2006, 01:06:56 pm
Elmhurst College baseball team kicked off the 2006 season by posting a 1-0-1 record in a doubleheader against Macalester College
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 06, 2006, 01:14:12 pm
What was the reason for a tie? Were there not any lights? I'm surprised both coaches wouldn't have tried to continue playing the next day if that was possible.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 06, 2006, 01:17:29 pm
time ran out

They only had 4 hours to play two games, at the Metrodome.

Freshman Mike Goltz (Neenah, Wis.-H.S.) got his collegiate career off to a good start, by belting a grand slam to pace the Bluejays' offense. Goltz finished 2-for-4 at the plate with the grand slam and a triple.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 06, 2006, 04:48:35 pm


Freshman Mike Goltz (Neenah, Wis.-H.S.) got his collegiate career off to a good start, by belting a grand slam to pace the Bluejays' offense. Goltz finished 2-for-4 at the plate with the grand slam and a triple.


There are tons of strong players coming out of the Fox Valley in Wisconsin. I know Carthage had a few All-Americans from that area:

Cory Everts- Hortonville
John Zuleger- Appleton
Mark Beyer- Menasha
Dean Muthig- Clintonville
Gavin Winfield- Ripon

The Fox Valley area has always been a hotbed for baseball... Oshkosh, Carthage, Steven's Point, and Madison Tech(JUCO) always land tons of players from those towns and are usually nationally ranked programs.

The best thing to ever happen to D3 baseball in Wisconsin was for the Univ. of Wisconsin to cancel its program in 1991... all those players go unrecruited by D1s and land at small schools.(Carthage, Oshkosh, Whitewater, Steven's Point, etc...)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 06, 2006, 05:15:44 pm
Couldn't agree with you more. Justin Hallock, Dave Nelson, and Eric Krull are a few of the more recent players who had great success at Carthage. Maybe not All-Americans, but all were All Conference players
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 06, 2006, 05:48:47 pm
Redmenfan... Are you from the Valley?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cokeaholic on March 06, 2006, 11:28:21 pm
north park matching their wins from last year already, good to see they are off to a better start than previous years.  Hopefully they will win some games in the conference this year and be more competitive like they were a few years ago.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 06, 2006, 11:52:46 pm
The Blue Jays end there road trip to the Metrodome at 2-1-1.
Title: Re: Intersting stats...
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 07, 2006, 01:48:54 am
I did a little research today and found these stats on the CCIW in the National Tourneys...

Augie: 2-2
Carthage: 37-26
Elmhurst: 6-8
IWU: 9-9
Millikin: 0-0
NCC: 15-13
NPU: 11-10
Wheaton: 0-0

Overall the CCIW is 80-68(.548) at the national level. I wonder how many other conferenes stack up that well. I would assume the WIAC may and whichever conference Marrietta plays in. It would be interesting to find out.


Marietta is in the Ohio Athletic Conference, which is a powerhouse circuit in all the major sports. Three OAC schools have won D3 basketball titles (current members Ohio Northern and Otterbein, and Wittenberg won theirs as an OAC member before the Tigers jumped ship and joined the NCAC), and perennial gridiron juggernaut Mount Union is also an OAC member.

north park matching their wins from last year already, good to see they are off to a better start than previous years. Hopefully they will win some games in the conference this year and be more competitive like they were a few years ago.

NPU is going to have to tighten up their pitching. The split with Franklin was a nice start; Franklin was the preseason #1 pick in the HCAC coaches poll, and the Vikings' win in the nightcap is currently the only blot on the 6-1 season record for the Grizzlies. But NPU has given up 31 runs in their three games to date. They've also committed ten errors.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 07, 2006, 10:56:19 am
Big Poppa, no I'm from Kenosha actually. Went to Lakeland for a semester, had some personal stuff going on and came back home and have been at Carthage since. I just know those guys from playing with them for a few years. Actually went to St. Joes High School where Jarvis Brown went.
Title: CCIW Players of the Week
Post by: TitanRailer on March 07, 2006, 11:25:18 am
Congrats to Ricky Angel of IWU and Kevin Kuntz of Augie, CCIW Players of the Week.

http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/2006pow1.php
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 07, 2006, 07:09:54 pm
Big Poppa, no I'm from Kenosha actually. Actually went to St. Joes High School where Jarvis Brown went.

Also the alma mater of Nick Van Exel... I used to ball with him at the KYF. Sick skills on that guy!

What are your predictions for the southern trip... tough schedule... I am hoping for a game or two above .500 for the trip. They have a brutal stretch of games down there.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 08, 2006, 08:47:18 am
I agree with you, it is a very tough schedule. Normally, Carthage only loses 1 or 2 games down there, this year if they do that it will be very impressive. Back to back days of double headers against Cortland State and Oshkosh isn't an easy task for any D-3 team in the country. If Carthage splits those two series, I think it will show a lot of people this is not a rebuilding year. Overall, I think they will do fine and come back with a good record on their spring trip. Hopefully their 1 and 2 will be ready for the Wednesday Oshkosh double header after starting their first two games Saturday the 11th (I'm assuming their 1 and 2 will throw the first day.) They will have 5-6 young guys, particularly in the outfield who will be competing for the 3 spots, and all will probably get their opportunity quickly to see who will win those positions.  I would think Center Field is the only postion that is "locked up" right now. Transfer Boe Battinger (I think that's his last name) from a Juco in California has looked very good and has the tough task of replacing Johnny Meier. Also, RIP Kirby Pucket, a great player, and Carthage Coach Jarvis Brown's old teammate.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: fourtimeallcciw on March 08, 2006, 10:01:36 am
Per the WIAC site...

North Central splits a DH w/ UW-Superior last night at the Metrodome.

UW-Superior won game one 2 - 1.
North Central took the nightcap 5 - 4.

NCC is now 1 -1 on the season.
UW-Sup is now 1 - 3.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 08, 2006, 01:51:14 pm
Not a good sign for North Central. I realize it was their first 2 games, but UW-Superior usually isn't that strong of a team, and I'm guessing North Central's 1 and 2 starters threw against Superior's 3-4 starters. Hopefully the Cardinals can get it rolling and represent well for the CCIW
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 08, 2006, 03:40:54 pm
Not a good sign for North Central. I realize it was their first 2 games, but UW-Superior usually isn't that strong of a team, and I'm guessing North Central's 1 and 2 starters threw against Superior's 3-4 starters. Hopefully the Cardinals can get it rolling and represent well for the CCIW

I agree... I hope it was just the first game jitters. UW-Superior is usually a basement dweller in the WIAC and if NCC struggled with them it could be a long season for the Cardinals.

Any ohter records in the CCIW yet? I know North Park, Millikin, IWU, and Augie played already and Carthage opens this weekend.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 08, 2006, 07:31:13 pm
Here are the games from today thru Sunday:

March 8
 North Central vs. Mayville State University (N.D.) (DH)
 Wheaton vs. Juniata
 Blackburn @ Millikin
 
March 9
 Wheaton vs. Concordia

March 11
 Carthage vs. King’s (DH)
 Elmhurst @ Franklin (DH)
 Ill. Wesleyan @ Rose-Hulman
 Illinois Wesleyan vs. Manchester
 Wheaton vs. DeSales
 North Park vs. Keene State @ Snedigar IV

March 12
 Carthage vs. Anderson (DH)
 Elmhurst @ Franklin
 Illinois Wesleyan @ Rose-Hulman
 North Park vs. Dickinson State @ Snedigar IV
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: fourtimeallcciw on March 08, 2006, 10:58:36 pm
Here are the games from today thru Sunday:

March 8
 North Central vs. Mayville State University (N.D.) (DH)
 Wheaton vs. Juniata
 Blackburn @ Millikin
 
March 9
 Wheaton vs. Concordia

March 11
 Carthage vs. King’s (DH)
 Elmhurst @ Franklin (DH)
 Ill. Wesleyan @ Rose-Hulman
 Illinois Wesleyan vs. Manchester
 Wheaton vs. DeSales
 North Park vs. Keene State @ Snedigar IV

March 12
 Carthage vs. Anderson (DH)
 Elmhurst @ Franklin
 Illinois Wesleyan @ Rose-Hulman
 North Park vs. Dickinson State @ Snedigar IV


March 8th
Mayville St. 3    North Central 2  10 inn.  - no 2nd game due to time constaints
Juniata 17    Wheaton 16
Millikin / Greenville ppd rain


Current Records
North Central 1 - 2
Wheaton 1 - 3
Millikin 1 - 1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 09, 2006, 09:08:49 am
A lot of solid pitching in that Wheaton game!!  ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 09, 2006, 12:20:04 pm
As of the mornig of March 9th:

The CCIW teams are struggling down south... they have a record of 12-11-1. Respectable, but not a good sign.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 10, 2006, 09:05:40 am
Carthage took off this morning for their spring trip, good luck to the Redmen. I think everyone now knows Junior Michael Heinig cannot play this year, but will be back for the next two years. Heinig was 17-1 in his first two seasons as a starter, and his only loss was an emergency relief appearance his freshman year. Hopefully Carthage finds a way to replace him this year, it will be tough. Still not sure if Jacob Husing's arm will be ready to be a starter, or if he will be in a closer roll if he can't throw 100 or so pitches. If Jacob can't be a weekend conference starter, the front runner for the Redmen's 3 spot is Jeff Livek. Livek has improved greatly the past 2 years, he's always thrown hard but needed some movement and a solid off-speed pitch, which he now has. He's from Schaumburg and was an all state  kid a few years back. Lastly, the Redmen will be in Florida without one of their top hitters. I won't mention his name until the season starts and it will be obvious who it is, but the injury should be healed up after the Florida trip, or another week after it. This player broke a small bone in his hand a few weeks back swinging in the cages, and the Dr. said it should be healed up in about month (after the spring trip it will be a month.) Lastly, any word on how Wesleyan has been doing?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 10, 2006, 11:13:18 am
Carthage took off this morning for their spring trip, good luck to the Redmen. I think everyone now knows Junior Michael Heinig cannot play this year, but will be back for the next two years. Heinig was 17-1 in his first two seasons as a starter, and his only loss was an emergency relief appearance his freshman year. Hopefully Carthage finds a way to replace him this year, it will be tough. Still not sure if Jacob Husing's arm will be ready to be a starter, or if he will be in a closer roll if he can't throw 100 or so pitches. If Jacob can't be a weekend conference starter, the front runner for the Redmen's 3 spot is Jeff Livek. Livek has improved greatly the past 2 years, he's always thrown hard but needed some movement and a solid off-speed pitch, which he now has. He's from Schaumburg and was an all state  kid a few years back. Lastly, the Redmen will be in Florida without one of their top hitters. I won't mention his name until the season starts and it will be obvious who it is, but the injury should be healed up after the Florida trip, or another week after it. This player broke a small bone in his hand a few weeks back swinging in the cages, and the Dr. said it should be healed up in about month (after the spring trip it will be a month.) Lastly, any word on how Wesleyan has been doing?

Those are  HUGE blows to my mighty Redmen.... hopefully, they will pull together and make things happen. Thanks for the update and insider info.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on March 10, 2006, 11:16:56 am
I did a little internet work and looks like Wesleyan swept a DH vs Greenville last weekend 6-5 and 7-1.  They play this weekend at Rose-Hulman and against Manchester.  Looks like Chilczenkowski went 5/6 for the weekend.  IWU has some nice non conf games.  D1 ISU, D2 Christian Brohters and always tough Miss. College.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 10, 2006, 11:58:28 am
I did a little internet work and looks like Wesleyan swept a DH vs Greenville last weekend 6-5 and 7-1.  They play this weekend at Rose-Hulman and against Manchester.  Looks like Chilczenkowski went 5/6 for the weekend.  IWU has some nice non conf games.  D1 ISU, D2 Christian Brohters and always tough Miss. College.

IWU has a great set up with ISU... too bad more D1s will not play the D3s...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 10, 2006, 12:29:10 pm
I agree that D-1's should play smaller in state schools for non conference games. It would be fun to watch Carthage play UW-Milwaukee or even D-2 Parkside which is about 2 miles away from Carthage. I think its great that ISU is willing to play Wesleyan every year, too bad more bigger schools won't do the same
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: formerd3db on March 10, 2006, 01:01:52 pm
REDMENFAN:
I agree with you.  Some of us had a similar discussion on the MIAA baseball site.  Obviously, there are some pros/cons for that with regards to the DI schools, but overall, I think can be a good experience all the way around (it actually has been in the past when it has occurred).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 10, 2006, 01:20:44 pm
I realize that if the D 1 team loses it looks bad for their program, but any baseball fan would know neither team probably threw one of their top pitchers, and that in baseball more than any other sport in my opinion, anyone can beat anyone on a given day. For a D-3 school, its an opportunity to say you beat a big school, and also chances are you will be playing against some guys you know and maybe even played summer traveling baseball with that got a scholarship to a big school.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 10, 2006, 01:26:18 pm
I agree that D-1's should play smaller in state schools for non conference games. It would be fun to watch Carthage play UW-Milwaukee or even D-2 Parkside which is about 2 miles away from Carthage. I think its great that ISU is willing to play Wesleyan every year, too bad more bigger schools won't do the same

Carthage and Parkside used to play every year... I am not sure if they still do, but it was a fun setting. Parkside was never too strong when I played and we always pounded them even though they were D2 Scholarship players.  I see tha PArkside is a very strong D2 right now, maybe that has something to do with it... most top ranked D1s and D2s will not play small school for the fear of slipping in the rankings and RPIs.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 10, 2006, 01:48:14 pm
Another problem is that Parkside plays in a wood bat conference, so how would you decide on wood or aluminum? If you ask me, I think the simple solution would be to let the home team decide. I know big time schools want to avoid dropping in the rankings, but a school like UWM doesn't have to fear that along with a lot of other D-1 schools who refuse to play a solid D-3 program. There is not a doubt in my mind Wesleyan or Carthage could compete in UWM's conference (some other schools are bradley, butler, uic) I'm not saying they would win it, but I think they could compete and make some noise. Some of those schools are solid, but not that much better, or not better at all than some top notch D-3 schools. Now could Carthage compete in the SEC, that's completely different. My buddy Scott Roehl pitched at Arkansas for 3 years and I went and watched him play 5 times, those players and teams are just simply at an entire different level of baseball.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on March 10, 2006, 03:42:28 pm
I'm sure that games against anything other that D1's do not count in the D1 rpi.  However it would count against the total number of games your allowed to play.  IWU usually gives ISU a game and has won a few times but ISU is much improved and is starting to get some of the top players from Illinois.  At first I though REDMENFAN was a little off by saying that Carthage could compete in the Horizon League but maybe he's right.  Checking out roster bios shows players from both teams were all area/all state etc. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 10, 2006, 03:58:47 pm
I'm sure that games against anything other that D1's do not count in the D1 rpi.  However it would count against the total number of games your allowed to play.  IWU usually gives ISU a game and has won a few times but ISU is much improved and is starting to get some of the top players from Illinois.  At first I though REDMENFAN was a little off by saying that Carthage could compete in the Horizon League but maybe he's right.  Checking out roster bios shows players from both teams were all area/all state etc. 

Petey... D1s will actually gain more RPI points by getting embarassed by another D1 than by pounding a D2/D3/NAIA school... it is a flawed system that does not account for cold weather-teams having shortened seasons and forcing them to play small school in order to make up a rained out games in some instances.

When I coached at an NAIA, D1s told me that they would never play us unless absolutely necessary (They would play us if they were already certain that they would get into the NCAAs, but if a school was from a smaller D1 conference and needed the RPI to get them into the NCAAs... forget about it).

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on March 10, 2006, 04:27:48 pm
BigPoppa- I stand correct.  I checked one of the rpi sites and and it says "records" only include d1 games. 

What happened to the Augie quote for your sig?  The turd one is a classic.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 10, 2006, 04:38:53 pm
BigPoppa- I stand correct.  I checked one of the rpi sites and and it says "records" only include d1 games. 

What happened to the Augie quote for your sig?  The turd one is a classic.

Sorry... they must have recently changed it.... as of a few years ago, RPI included other divisions as well.

I rotate my signature sayings on the bottom... it gives me a reason to get out of bed in the morning.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 11, 2006, 11:45:44 am
Redmen off to a good start! 6-1 victory over King's College. Evosevich gets the win!!

Game 2 at 10:30
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 11, 2006, 02:03:09 pm
Sweep of King's College for the Redmen! Nice start to the 2006 season! I believe the hotline said Jon Olson picked up the 11-2 or 11-1 victory. Bad reception for the hotline update.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 11, 2006, 05:13:16 pm
IWU lost 9-7 to Manchester this afternoon @ Rose-Hulman.

IWU gave up 5 unearned runs.  Robert Inzinga took the loss.  Nick Chilzenkowski led IWU in hitting by going 5 for 5 with 3 RBIs. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 11, 2006, 06:01:05 pm
Very good sign for the Redmen with Olson and Evosovich both throwing very well. Evosovich gave up only one run in the complete game and Olson didn't give up a hit until the 5th when he gave up 2 unearned runs. He only surrendered 3 hits the entire game. New Centerfielder Boe Battinger hit the ball well, Tyler Yapp hit a homerun, steve coughlin from uw oshkosh hit clean up and hit well, as did Tyler Creekmore. It should be fun Wednesday when Coughlin plays against his former team and is hitting in the clean up spot when Oshkosh wouldn't even let him swing a bat and switched him to pitcher. Finally, the injured redmen is Chris Sadjak (Yapp is filling in for him), who most likely would've been hitting in the clean up slot. The paper today had a huge write up on Carthage and said he will be back late march/early April. Sadjak hit very well last year and will be counted on tremendously to be a big run producer when he returns to the lineup.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 11, 2006, 09:54:06 pm
Great job Redmen... way to jump out of the gate and get rolling.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2006, 02:14:13 pm
As of the mornig of March 9th:

The CCIW teams are struggling down south... they have a record of 12-11-1. Respectable, but not a good sign.
Sunday Morning:
The CCIW teams are currently 15-12-1(non-conf.) on their spring trips... we should have a ton of games played this week and have a much better idea of how the conference stacks up nationally. Right now, the CCIW is looking average, at best. We need Carthage, Augie and IWU to get hot and hope for a second NCAA bid from the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 12, 2006, 05:32:40 pm
Redmen split a Sunday doubleheader with Anderson College. They lost the opener and won the nightcap. 3-1 so far on the road trip. Tomorrow's an off day.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2006, 05:39:36 pm
Redmen split a Sunday doubleheader with Anderson College. They lost the opener and won the nightcap. 3-1 so far on the road trip. Tomorrow's an off day.
Irish... thanks for the update! Nothing on the website yet.

Doesn't surprise me... the Redmen always struggle in the first game of the second day. They have had some horrendous losses over the years in that game including a 1994 loss to Earlham College when Carthage was ranked in the top 5 in the nation and Earlham finshed around 3-41 for the season... hopefully the Redmen are just following suit as they now enter the toughest part of their spring trip with back-to-back DHs with #2 Cortland State and UW-Oshkosh.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 12, 2006, 06:30:06 pm
IWU swept Rose-Hulman today.

Game one:

IWU won 7-4.  DuBois goes to 2-0 with the win.  Angel was 2-4 with 3 RBIs and a HR.  Chilzenkowski was 3-4 with an RBI.

Game two:

IWU won 8-0.  Dobosz got the win.  Chilzenkowski was 2-4 with a HR.  McCabe was 3-4 w/ 2 RBIs.  Howard was 3-4 with 3 RBIs and 1 HR.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 12, 2006, 07:57:06 pm
Just talked to some of the guys, the first game was just a case of not getting a big hit when Carthage needed it. I think they left 11 runners stranded, and lost 3-1. Livek was the tough luck loser, giving up 3 runs on only 5 hits and striking out 7 in the 7 inning contest. Carthage won the second game 4-3, and got a good sign with sophmore Chris Krepline throwing well. Krepline is a hard throwing righty who normally pops the mit at about 90 mph and should be outstanding before his career is over. With Olson, Husing, and Krepline all throwing high 80's and touching 90-91, and Livek normally 86-88, I think that's why Scott Evosovich is so effective. He throws mid 80's, but just keeps hitters so off balance its amazing. The tuesday game against #2 Cortland State is only a single game, sorry I thought it was a double header.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 10:58:07 am
Hopefully Carthage gat battle through the injuries and make a run at the CCIW title when they return. I have a feeling that they could be in for a tough spring trip this year. I hope I am wrong, but I just have a feeling.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2006, 01:18:25 pm
Playing Cortland State, and having double headers with rival oshkosh, and #24 Wheaton, Mass., I can see why you have that feeling. I still think the Redmen will come home with a good record, and better prepared for CCIW play after playing some of those teams in Florida. I will predict that the Redmen come back with a 7-3 record, which I know is a pretty bold statement considering they play 5 more games against ranked teams (Cortland#2, Wheaton #24, Oshkosh #35.) Hopefully the pitching works out where they can have at least one of their top 4 guys throwing in these games and get the big hits when they need them.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 02:59:04 pm
Playing Cortland State, and having double headers with rival oshkosh, and #24 Wheaton, Mass., I can see why you have that feeling. I still think the Redmen will come home with a good record, and better prepared for CCIW play after playing some of those teams in Florida. I will predict that the Redmen come back with a 7-3 record, which I know is a pretty bold statement considering they play 5 more games against ranked teams (Cortland#2, Wheaton #24, Oshkosh #35.) Hopefully the pitching works out where they can have at least one of their top 4 guys throwing in these games and get the big hits when they need them.
I would jump for joy with a 7-3 record after the trip for Carthage... looking at their schedule I would think that a 6-4 record is more likely and should get them ready for the CCIW schedule.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2006, 04:16:22 pm
7-3, 6-4, anything above 500 I would say would be a successful spring trip considering how tough it is. However, losing yesterday doesn't help their cause losing to a team that is 2-3. But like you said, Carthage is known for beating the great teams and losing to ones that aren't as talented, but just want it more because sometimes Carthage can play to the level of their competition. That will be big for the Redmen this year, to make sure they are playing the same whether they are playing Wesleyan or the worst team on their schedule. In 2004, Carthage went 10-1 on their spring trip, we lost to what we felt like was the worst team Carthage played in Florida.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2006, 04:28:16 pm
I know what you are saying. Carthage has a long history of losing to poor teams and pounding the great ones. The same seaon that they lost to a 3-41 Earlham in Florida, they beat both Marrietta and Eastern Connecticut State in the World Series before losing to NCAA Champion Methodist in the semi-finals.

You never know what you are going to get, but you can be assured that Augie Schmidt is going to be unhappy either way!
Title: Cortland-SUNY
Post by: mwunder on March 14, 2006, 11:06:07 am
It seems like they played everyone they brought to Florida with them yesterday in a 12-9 loss to Stevens Tech.  They played 20 guys.  They are 5-2 so far.

To date they are hitting .383 as a team.  Wow!
In 6 games they have attempted 29 steals (21 successful)

Never having seen them play, I'd think that getting on base (.448%) a lot and having speed (good combination in baseball.) makes them very dangerous.

Guessing from their rotation so far, I would think that Carthage will see Justin Mattes, a 6'4" Jr right hander.  So far this year he is 1-1 with a 5.40 ERA.  Opponents are hitting .185 off of him.  We will not see their ace, Jimmy Dougher (He threw on Saturday).

Since Carthage is not even mentioned in the 'Florida trip' portion of their media guide, I would assume that we are being overlooked.  They play #24 Whenton (Mass) and #5 Rowan in the two days following today's game.

Hopefully, we have our hitting shoes on today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 14, 2006, 12:34:57 pm
MWUnder,

I'm confused, are you a Cortland State backer? You say "we won't see their ace" but you are talking about Cortland guys. I think you are a Cortland guy and saying they are overlooking Carthage is what I got from your post. Anyway, .380 team batting average is just ridiculous, hopefully they cool down a bit today! Carthage's 1 and 2 threw Saturday so they won't be throwing today either, as you mentioned Cortland will not be throwing their ace. I would hope though that they are not overlooking Carthage. Carthage has been in the preseason top 25 many times in the past ten years, and have a lot of talent. I am pretty confident they'll be in the top 25 sooner or later this year. Last time they started out the year unranked they made it to the world series and were preseason #2 the following year. Should be a great game today. Both teams have been playing a lot of players and trying to see who can win a spot as permanent starters once their conference seasons start.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on March 14, 2006, 01:18:13 pm
REDMENFAN...

Carthage class of 1992.


Was just giving a very high overview of the Cortland team that we may be facing today and commenting that we (Carthage) are not going to see their (Cortland's) ace.  I agree that they (Cortland) won't see ours (Carthage's) either.  Clear enough??   ;D  (yes, that's a bit smarta$$)

I don't remember the last time I saw 20 names in a box score for a 9 inning game.  That's nuts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 14, 2006, 01:29:05 pm
Yes, that's much better. Thanks for clarifying... Carthage is starting Jacob Husing today, I'm sure nobody from Cortland will read this in the next hour!  ;)   Husing has all the potential in the world, but had arm surgery in the off-season and the Coaches aren't sure yet if he'll be able to be a starter or if he'll be the closer again this year. Last year, Husing had several scouts watching him. At 6'2'', 230, he's got a big strong body with a great fastball and a knee buckling curveball. From what I've been told, he's been a little gun-shy about snapping off the curveball while throwing live to hitters in the cages. Hopefully he lets it fly today and see what happens. Augie stated in the Carthage season preview on Saturday that Jacob Husing may even become better than Olson because he's bigger and stronger, and was touching 90 mph regularly as a freshman. "When he's on, he can be devisating."  Hopefully his arm is feeling good, he can get Carthage a quality win, and he can stay injury free this year
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2006, 04:29:47 pm
mwunder... did you play baseball at Carthage in 1992?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2006, 04:33:09 pm
Carthage up 4-1 in the 4th on #2 ranked Cortland State... more updates to follow.

Check for yourself @ 262.551.5388(Carthage sports hotline)... it is usually updated every inning or so for baseball games.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 14, 2006, 05:15:14 pm
4-1 end of the 7th. They always rise to the occasion. In 02 & 03 we knocked off DiSalvo and #1 Marietta two years in a row in Panama City.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on March 14, 2006, 05:27:16 pm
Shannon,

Nope,  I was buddies w/ Kuhnke, Povich, Everts, Falk, and Nemo.


My baseball claim to fame was seeing every home game (and many away games) for the 4 years I was there.  That's saying something considering the lakeside venue that is Carthage...

Question for you...and this is not to put you down at all..just one of those things that I know you know the answer to.

How many more hits would it have taken in '96 to hit .400?  2?  I missed being all-state in high school in cross-country by less than a stride....never forgot the kids' name or the time...

Maybe we'll see you at a game this spring.

Apparently Husing's arm is healthy?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on March 14, 2006, 05:43:25 pm
Carthage wins 4-2

Husing went 5 innings to pick up the win.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2006, 05:56:47 pm
4-1 end of the 7th. They always rise to the occasion. In 02 & 03 we knocked off DiSalvo and #1 Marietta two years in a row in Panama City.

I think those were his only two losses those years.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2006, 06:01:19 pm


Nope,  I was buddies w/ Kuhnke, Povich, Everts, Falk, and Nemo.


My baseball claim to fame was seeing every home game (and many away games) for the 4 years I was there.  That's saying something considering the lakeside venue that is Carthage...

Question for you...and this is not to put you down at all..just one of those things that I know you know the answer to.

How many more hits would it have taken in '96 to hit .400?  2?  I missed being all-state in high school in cross-country by less than a stride....never forgot the kids' name or the time...

Maybe we'll see you at a game this spring.

Apparently Husing's arm is healthy?

I think it would only have been one more hit... I was happy with the .396 considering I started the northern portion of the schedule by hitting 1-27(.037) that season... just one of those funks. Glad to see that Carthage pulled off a big win today!

I would love to catch a Carthage game this year, but I am living in Southern California right now... I tried to talk Augie into swinging out here for a long weekend, but he did not buy it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 14, 2006, 06:13:25 pm
Big confidence booster for Carthage heading in to tomorrow's double header with oshkosh. Just got off the phone with Sadjak, he said Husing was just throwing bb's and his change up was unreal. Ryan Roufus, a junior lefty threw the last 4 and also threw very well i was told.  Roufus is from the Milwaukee area and was a former all-state pitcher in high school. Not a hard throwing guy, right around 80, but has great movement on  all his pitches, and if his curveball is on he's extremely tough to hit.  I'm guessing Augie And Everts had Husing on a tight pitch count, and assume they are very happy with his performance. Good luck tomorrow to the Redmen and the rest of the CCIW
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2006, 12:27:26 pm
CCIW now moves to 19-16-1 on the season... hope fully a few teams can get hot and really push the conference records further above .500.

Carthage vs UW-Oshkosh today should be a great DH.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2006, 12:39:12 pm
Carthage will be starting Evosovich and Olson today, so hopefully both of them can perform well on 3 days rest after they both threw complete games Saturday. Starting on 3 days rest is no easy task the first week into the season. These two guys should be a great 1-2 combo all year though. No matter which one starts first, one will be throwing high 80's and can touch 90/91 with some good off speed stuff, and the other one is mid 80's with a lot of off speed pitches to keep hitters off balance. Evosovich also gets many hitters out with his splitty, a pitch that not a lot of D-3 guys throw. The best part is they both rarely walk hitters. Carthage's pitching has more than done its part thus far, and the hitting has done just enough to be 4-1. Hopefully the sticks wake up today and for the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2006, 12:42:02 pm
Hopefully a few guys step up for Carthage today and swing it. I think the days of sitting back and score 12 runs a game are over for the Redmen.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2006, 04:35:33 pm
Carthage up on Oshkosh 2-0 in the 3rd inning of game #1...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 15, 2006, 05:35:51 pm
Impressive! 7-1 after 5 innings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2006, 05:46:37 pm
Carthage up 10-1 in the 7th... keep rolling Big Red!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2006, 06:42:53 pm
Just talked to Jarvis Brown for a minute. Final was 10-1, evosovich pitched, that's all the details I have right now
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2006, 06:51:08 pm
I just read that the first game was delayed 55 minutes at the start because there was only 1 umpire!! Talk about messing with a pitcher's warm-up routine...Luckily Evosovich found a way to fight through it. He went all 7 innings, giving up 8 hits but only 1 run, with 6 K's and 1 walk. Tyler Yapp (Chris Sadjak's replacement at first base) tied a Carthage single game record with 3 doubles in one game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2006, 08:45:20 pm
Wow, don't know what happened. Carthage was up 4-1 in the 7th in a 7 inning game, and now its 4-4 in the 10th. Hopefully Carthage can find a way to pull this one out after blowing a lead in the last inning
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2006, 09:37:15 pm
Oshkosh wins 5-4... Carthage had three errors in the game... I am assuming that contributed to the blown lead.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 16, 2006, 08:38:40 am
Going 2-1 against ranked teams is nothing to be a shamed of, you're right Irish. Hopefully the Redmen can at least split with Wheaton, Mass.  My 7-3 prediction for the trip is starting to look like great one!  ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: sportsguru90 on March 16, 2006, 08:41:41 am
What 2 ranked teams did they beat?
It goes to show that Carthage will not be able to put games together again, same story for this school
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 16, 2006, 10:35:27 am
What 2 ranked teams did they beat?
It goes to show that Carthage will not be able to put games together again, same story for this school

They beat #2 ranked Cortland State and #35 ranked UW-Oshkosh.

Same Story???? What does that mean? Iwould bet nearly every school in the nation would love to have the success that Carthage has had in the past 10-15 years... Carthage has claimed seven outright CCIW divisional titles, one divisional-title tie, six conference crowns, 10 NCAA regional berths, including nine-straight from 1992 to 2000, third-place finishes in both the 1993 and 1994 NCAA Division III Baseball Championships and fourth place in both 1995 and 1997.

I am guessing that those stats are head and shoulders above the rest of the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on March 16, 2006, 04:17:31 pm
BiggyP...

let it roll off your back...if he want's to playa hate the Red Men of K-town, let him.

Here's my question for the guru?
Name the only unranked team in DIII baseball who has beaten pre-season ranked teams on back-to-back days?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 16, 2006, 04:22:06 pm
Well said.... Carthage just defeated Concordia(WI) in game #1 of a DH 5-2... the Redmen are now at 6-2.

The 7-3 prediction by redmenfan is looking nice right now... Possibly even an 8-2 mark for trip if they can knock off their third ranked opponent of the week tomorrow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 16, 2006, 06:03:38 pm
Augie's words to the team after they beat Concordia... "You guys just suck!"     Gotta love the motivational tactics used by Augs, can't wait til their first home game. I'll stand by the dugout for a few innings just to hear some infamous Augie one-liners!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 16, 2006, 06:06:52 pm
Just got the text from Jarvis, carthage lost 5-4 second game... not a good loss for Carthage at all. I'm sure Augie could handle losing to Oshkosh or Cortland, but to lose to Concordia and whoever they lost their first game to is not gonna sit well with Augie
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 16, 2006, 06:11:08 pm
Augie's words to the team after they beat Concordia... "You guys just suck!"     Gotta love the motivational tactics used by Augs, can't wait til their first home game. I'll stand by the dugout for a few innings just to hear some infamous Augie one-liners!

I have heard much worse from Augie... you should have heard him after our All-American Dan Falkingham threw a one hitter against Rockford and we lost 1-0.... Augie actually apologized to Rockford's players and coach after the game for the things he screamed at us between games.

There is still nothing in life like an Augie Schmidt post-game speech... win or lose, happy or sad, you are bound to hear something that sticks in your mind for the rest of your life.

I love that he chewed them out after a win... he is all about playing the game the right way, not the wins and losses. We had games that we lost and I thought we were going to get torn apart after the game, but we played well. There is a huge difference between getting beat and losing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 16, 2006, 06:12:35 pm
Carthage Website says they lost 3-2 in extra innings second game against concordia, sorry about giving the wrong score. Carthage has got to find some way this year to not play to the level of their competition. Augie said it best in the paper, this team can beat anyone in the nation or lose to any team, it just depends on what day it is and how these guys want to play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 17, 2006, 01:25:03 pm
Carthage loses to #25 Wheaton(MASS) 3-2 this morning... Redmen return from the spring trip with  6-4 record.

That is not a bad start, but far below Carthage standards for the spring trip. It should make for an interesting CCIW race this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 17, 2006, 03:35:40 pm
That has to be the worst spring trip record in a long. long, long time!

IV cannot be happy!!!

Happy St. Paddy's Day to all!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 17, 2006, 03:59:07 pm
Irish... I agree... I can't remember the last time they played this poorly on a spring trip. It scares me to think what me happen when they play in the cold weather of the midwest.

I am starting my afternoon with a Black and Tan in a few moments... I got someone to cover my class this afternoon so I can celebreate my Irishness...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 17, 2006, 05:58:31 pm
I checked the record book. The trip in 1991 only produced 5 wins!

New Irish joint opened in Schaumburg - Finn McCools. I think we may try it out. No chance of getting near Durty Nellie's!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 17, 2006, 06:23:56 pm
I checked the record book. The trip in 1991 only produced 5 wins!

New Irish joint opened in Schaumburg - Finn McCools. I think we may try it out. No chance of getting near Durty Nellie's!!!

1991 was the year before Carthage made it first appearance in the NCAAs(I think they were 20-20)... let's hope we have not regressed to that point. Carthage made it to the Regional final vs UW-Oshkosh in 1992 and made its first World Series appearance in 1993. It sure has been a while since the Redmen have had a trip like this one. I hope the sort it out and turn it on back in K-town!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 17, 2006, 08:38:21 pm
Augustana beat Greenville today 1-0 and 9-1.  Kevin Kuntz pitched 6 innings in game 1 and Andrew Setter closed the game for a save.  Game 2 was a complete game win for Brandon Engle.

Augustana is now 6-2
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augiefan on March 17, 2006, 09:47:06 pm
Has Augie found a decent catcher as yet. I realize Greenville is really bad, but these two wins seem a little more encouraging with Augie giving up just 1 run.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 17, 2006, 10:06:59 pm
The same 2 guys are catching (a converted middle infielder and a converted 1B/DH).  An extra 2 weeks of practice since the last trip definitely helps when it comes to the pitching.  It will be interesting to see how the next 2 games go.  Saturday, they will pitch their #4 while probably their #2 (who closed today) will start Sunday.  Not really sure on the order of the Augie pitchers but Kuntz, Setter and Engle are the top 3 that have all pitched very well in past years. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 18, 2006, 12:24:20 pm
One encouraging thing for the Redmen is in games when their 1-3 starters pitched, they were 4-0. Evosovich was 2-0, Olson 1-0 with a no decision, and Husing 1-0. With these guys on the mound for conference games, the Redmen should be very tough to beat. Carthage lost some very close games, and their last 3 losses they blew leads in all of them, 2 in the final inning. I know 6-4 is not the normal record people see after a Carthage spring trip, but I still look for them to have a strong season. If they win that game yesterday and finish 7-3, we would be talking about what a great spring trip it was with a couple losses to average teams. Bottom line, look for Carthage to still finish at or near the top of the conference this year because of 3 great weekend starters, and hitting that should keep improving.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 18, 2006, 03:03:17 pm
After thinking about the trip for the night and being heavily influenced by Guinness in my thinking, I am certain that the Redmen will have another successful season in the CCIW. I still see them as the favorite to win it. I think we have all been spoiled by the top 10 rankings we are used to seeing from this team.

Look for them to get hot in the CCIW and start rolling.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 18, 2006, 04:44:48 pm
Very good point RMF! Three solid starters will definitely help on the weekends and it is encouraging.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 19, 2006, 01:48:13 am
Augie moves to 7-2 on the season with a 8-6 win over St. Jospeh's.  Gwost picked up the win.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 19, 2006, 03:12:11 pm
Augustana moves to 8-2 on the season with a 10-7 win over #6 Wisconsin - Stevens Point.  Pretty good start for Augie now that their 2 sprind trips are completed.  The play their first games up north with a DH against Monmouth on Saturday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 19, 2006, 07:36:21 pm
I was a little unsure about Augie even though they had a good record, but after a win against Stevens Point, I know that have to have a good ball club. Obviously the Catching situation has improved, the pitchers must be throwing well, and it sounds like they are pounding the ball just like they did last year
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 19, 2006, 07:38:51 pm
Today Elmhurst Blue Jays split against Hanover College; they won the first game 8-2.  Senior Ben Stephens pitched 6 1/3 of innings and only gave up 2 runs in the victory. Junior Anthony Contaldo got his first Blue Jay homerun of the year.

The second game was a different story when head coach, coach Jones decided to take out his top main starters. ???  They only score 2 runs in the 3-2 loss.  Elmhurst had the bases loaded in the 9th inning with one out, and could not get a run in.

The Blue Jays have a record of 3-2-1.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 20, 2006, 06:44:38 am
North Park returned from its trip to Phoenix having posted a 2-3 record in America's Catbox. That makes the Vikings 3-5 on the year, with one game having been rained out by Arizona's freakish weather last weekend. Two of the losses suffered by NPU in Phoenix were extra-inning affairs.

The Vikings have thus already equaled the total number of wins they achieved the past two years combined, and tied the total that they won in all of the 2003 season. That's pretty embarrassing, but as the ancient Chinese proverb goes, "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."

I spoke with one of the assistant coaches, and he sounded pretty upbeat about the trip as a whole. It sounds as though the Vikes may finally be turning the corner. I'm looking forward to their first home game on Thursday against IIT.
Title: Lighten up Sweetness
Post by: Dirty Dozen on March 20, 2006, 06:57:57 am
Hey Sweetness:

You sound down on Coach Jones?  In his defense, it's early on in the season.  Do you think he may be trying to learn a little more about his team and what his reserves can do?  How will he ever know about what his reserves can do unless he plays them in these games?   It's the 2nd game on a 9 game swing.  There's a lot of baseball left.  Lighten up.  Oh by the way, what doesn't show up in the box score, those reserves crushed the ball right at people including Matt Brauer who hit a missle right at the 3B in the 7th (I was told they played 2-7 inning games so it couldn't have been the 9th)  In addition, Pat Meginniss, Travis Cox, and Brett Lilley hit the ball very hard too and had nothing to show for it.  Is that Coach Jones's fault?  I heard his starting pitching in that game (and I don't know who it was?) was continuously not getting ahead of hitters, walked some guys, and had a lot of 3 ball counts.  Is that Coach Jones's fault?   Nick Ferrin who has been a very reliable and steady pitcher for the Jays came in in relief of the starter and hit his first batter he faced.  Was it the reserves fault those pitchers weren't ahead of hitters and Ferrin hit a batter who eventually scored?

I think you should be happy the Jays have a coach who has enough balls to play his reserves every now and then to give them a chance.  In the long run, won't they be better off if the Bluejays have a strong bench?  Coach Jones probably already has a good idea of what his starters can do.

Hang in there.  Coach Jones is a veteran Coach, has been around the block and knows what he's doing.  The Jays have a strong club and playing the reserves now when he can will only strengthen their team in the long run.   So chill bro - it aint the end of the world.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Dirty Dozen on March 20, 2006, 07:41:08 am
Hey Sweetness:

I felt guilty after telling to chill so I did some snooping around to see if what I was saying was acurate or if perhaps you were right?  Here's what I found.

The starters that Coach Jones did start in the the 3-2 loss to Hanover was combined 2 for 14 at the plate in that loss.  The starters who Coach Jones didn't play in the 3-2 loss was 2 for 12 at the plate in the previous game.

Sounds to me as if there may have been a good pitcher going and it didn't make a difference one way or another.  It's early and the Jays just don't seem to be hitting right now with starters or reserves.  So Sweetness, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and after my investigative reporting, I still think you should chill bro!

The Jays will hit - hang in there bro!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 20, 2006, 07:41:40 am
North Park went 3-4 (not 2-3) on its Phoenix trip to move to 4-6 on the year.  The finale was a 14-inning affair with the Vikings coming up short, 8-7.  They lost three extra-inning games to Marian (WI), Keene State (NH), and Roger Williams (RI).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 20, 2006, 08:42:17 am
If I had to guess, Elmhurst's coach was probably sending a message to his starters saying hit the ball or else... that happened to Carthage down in florida a few years back and Augie benched most of the starters including All-American Adam Husing and a bunch of freshman came in and actually hit well and came back and won that game. It sends a message to those starters and upperclassmen that hey, if you don't perform we got guys who can't wait to get their opportunity who will.
Title: IWU
Post by: TitanRailer on March 20, 2006, 11:08:07 am
Long weekend in Virginia, congrats to the IWU basketball team for its third place finish at the final four.

IWU baseball won two over previously 14-4 Millsaps College, 10-8 and 8-7.  The Titans are now 6-1 on the season.

The spring trip continues this week with singles games against 11-7 Mississippi College, 16-3 Rhodes, 13-8 Christian Brothers, 6-7 Coe, and 15-2 Wash U. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 20, 2006, 02:36:23 pm
Looks like the CCIW teams are off to good starts in the non-conference portions of their schedules. Let's hope for two bids to the dance.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 20, 2006, 03:03:41 pm
North Park went 3-4 (not 2-3) on its Phoenix trip to move to 4-6 on the year.  The finale was a 14-inning affair with the Vikings coming up short, 8-7.  They lost three extra-inning games to Marian (WI), Keene State (NH), and Roger Williams (RI).

Thanks for pointing that out. Neither the CCIW website nor the websites of the two schools indicated that NPU and Keene State had made up that rainout.
Title: Re: IWU
Post by: BigPoppa on March 20, 2006, 04:26:01 pm


IWU baseball won two over previously 14-4 Millsaps College, 10-8 and 8-7.  The Titans are now 6-1 on the season.


I am curious to know what the IWU players thought of the Millsaps shortstop... he is the Pre-season National Player of the Year. Is he as good as we hear?
Title: Re: IWU
Post by: TitanRailer on March 20, 2006, 04:46:11 pm


IWU baseball won two over previously 14-4 Millsaps College, 10-8 and 8-7.  The Titans are now 6-1 on the season.


I am curious to know what the IWU players thought of the Millsaps shortstop... he is the Pre-season National Player of the Year. Is he as good as we hear?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on March 20, 2006, 04:54:06 pm


IWU baseball won two over previously 14-4 Millsaps College, 10-8 and 8-7.  The Titans are now 6-1 on the season.


I am curious to know what the IWU players thought of the Millsaps shortstop... he is the Pre-season National Player of the Year. Is he as good as we hear?

I will try to find out next week when they return.  Box score had Wetzel (playing right field????) as 1-3 and 2-4 for the two games with 3 BB's and 2 RBI.  IWU did use their top two pitchers in these two games, Dubois and Inzinga.  Try to find out why he is not in the infield...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 20, 2006, 05:42:17 pm
Thaks for the update on Wetzel... I have no idea of why he was in the OF.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on March 21, 2006, 08:36:35 am
Will any Redmen fans be in Lisle this Sunday for the game against Benedictine? 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 21, 2006, 10:14:27 am
It all depends on the weather bataviapete! The big challenge will be to convince Augie to go!! He looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy when he has on the five sets of long underwear!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 21, 2006, 10:23:20 am
It all depends on the weather bataviapete! The big challenge will be to convince Augie to go!! He looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy when he has on the five sets of long underwear!!
I have no idea how he coaches dressed in his Carthage snowsuit... he is the coldest man on the planet at all times.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 21, 2006, 11:50:10 am
Well Augie doesn't have to do much physcially when he is coaching. He just gets to sit in the dugout and give his two sense about everything that happens in the game. Smitty coaches 3rd and Jarvis Brown coaches first, so Augie can just sit there with his long underwear, t-shirt, under armor, Carthage baseball jacket, and Carthage hoody all nicely bundled up in the dugout. Don't get me wrong though, just because he is cold doesn't mean he isn't doing any coaching or critiquing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on March 21, 2006, 12:18:27 pm
Long range forecast for Sunday is 48 and partly sunny, having spent a few springs at Carthage that's almost balmy.
My son's interested in playing at Carthage so it would be good to see Augie and the boys in action.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 21, 2006, 02:13:17 pm
Well Augie doesn't have to do much physcially when he is coaching. He just gets to sit in the dugout and give his two sense about everything that happens in the game. Smitty coaches 3rd and Jarvis Brown coaches first, so Augie can just sit there with his long underwear, t-shirt, under armor, Carthage baseball jacket, and Carthage hoody all nicely bundled up in the dugout. Don't get me wrong though, just because he is cold doesn't mean he isn't doing any coaching or critiquing.

Augie is at his best for one-liners in the cold.... there are some classics out there!

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 21, 2006, 03:53:40 pm
Sunday's game will be carthage's first after a 9 day layoff, then they play a single game wednesday against Cardinal Stritch before they start conference action next weekend. I'm guessing Sunday they will pitch by committee to keep guys sharp, and probably something similar on Wednesday.  I don't know if they'll throw their top guys a few innings this sunday, or the following Wednesday, or even both. I'm sure more than just the starting position players will get some innings as well because once conference games start its pretty much set in stone who's playing every game for the most part.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 21, 2006, 04:00:59 pm
I am guessing that Augie will send out his top three for three innings a piece and rest them all week into the conference games. Wednesday will be another day like that with his middle relievers seeing the work.
Title: Central Division Conferences
Post by: BigPoppa on March 21, 2006, 05:55:06 pm
I did a bit of work this afternoon and found some interesting differences in the conferences. When looking at winning percentages in the 2006 season by conference:

CCIW: 34-26-1 (.566) 6 teams at or over .500
IIAC: 52-40 (.565) 7 teams at or over .500
NIIC: 20-35-1 (.366) 2 teams at or over .500
SLIAC: 27-61 (.306) 2 teams at or over .500

I am pretty sure this means absolutely nothing, but it is easy to see that the CCIW and IIAC are a few steps ahead of the other two conferences... my apologies to Aurora for being in the NIIC as they are usually a very strong national candidate.

I know it is very early and things can change in a few days, but it usually a good clue as to how the season will progress.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 21, 2006, 08:36:36 pm
Elmhurst Blue Jays (3-3-1) lost today 6-2 against Rhodes College (17-3), it was a very cold baseball game, and it started to snow right after the game.  I don’t think IWU will be able to play tomorrow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CoachKs on March 22, 2006, 01:10:21 pm
IIAC- Honestly who do they play????
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 22, 2006, 02:15:26 pm
Augustana
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 22, 2006, 02:20:25 pm
IIAC- Honestly who do they play????

The IIAC schools actually have comparable schedules to most of the CCIW teams when they head south. Many played in the same areas against the same teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on March 22, 2006, 02:59:43 pm
One encouraging thing for the Redmen is in games when their 1-3 starters pitched, they were 4-0. Evosovich was 2-0, Olson 1-0 with a no decision, and Husing 1-0.

To be technical, the team was actually 4-1 in those games.  Olson started the second Oshkosh game and even though he finished with a 'no decision', the team eventually lost that game.

Carthage can't continue to score 4.9 runs a game (take out the 2 double digit games and the average is just over 3) , play sloppy defense and expect to compete in the CCIW, even with their top 3 guys on the mound.  That's not the recipe for success.  Don't get me wrong, good pitching will keep you in a most of games, but if they don't find a way to deliver key hits, it'll be a struggle all season long.  I think Augie would take a bunch of wins in 1 run games, but it will drive him nuts to watch 3-2, 2-1 pitching duels all season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 22, 2006, 03:25:43 pm
It drove him nuts winning games 5-3 last year!! Augie is a hitting guy, everyone knows that. I would bet he would much rather win 13-8 than 2-1. I have to disagree with you though... if the redmen average 4.9 runs a game in conference, I think they would still finish top 1 or 2 in the conference because of those top 3 pitchers. However, I agree that they do need to get some more timely and clutch hitting, it would make things a lot easier for them. I would think by conference time after 12 games and another two weeks of practice, along with Chris Sadjak returning to the line-up,Carthage's hitting will improve. Remember, Carthage went 17-4 in conference last year and they didn't score as many runs as a typical Augie Schmidt team would
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 22, 2006, 04:08:13 pm
I have a feeling that he would rather win games 3-2 than to lose them 13-8!! We Carthage backers are all a bit too jumpy when Carthage does not come out pounding teams into submission... myslef included. They are still in a good position to make a run at the CCIW title and we all know that these games really don't matter once the CCIW starts.

Speaking of the CCIW... congrats to North Park for getting themselves on track this season. It was painful to watch them go 4-76 the past two seasons. New Head Coach, Luke Johnson, appears to have them headed in the right direction as they are listed at 4-5 after their spring trip to AZ.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 22, 2006, 04:47:42 pm
Speaking of the CCIW... congrats to North Park for getting themselves on track this season. It was painful to watch them go 4-76 the past two seasons. New Head Coach, Luke Johnson, appears to have them headed in the right direction as they are listed at 4-5 after their spring trip to AZ.

As Mr. B posted here on Sunday, the Vikings returned from Arizona with a 4-6 record. The rained-out game against Keene State was made up and resulted in an 8-7 loss in extra innings for the Vikings, even though it's still not listed on either the NPU or CCIW websites as having been made up. Nevertheless, you're right that the Park is definitely on the upswing.

And congratulations to NPU junior Bob Mensch upon being named the CCIW Pitcher of the Week. He has yet to give up an earned run in four appearances this season.
Title: IWU
Post by: TitanRailer on March 23, 2006, 09:31:12 am
IWU won again yesterday, improving to 7-1, with a 10-6 win over previously 17-3 Rhodes College.  IWU left 13 runners on base so could have scored many more.  Four pictures were on the mound, so a typical non-conference slugfust with many hurlers.

Thus far, IWU is 3-0 on their Southern trip with 2 wins over 14-4 Millsaps and yesterdays win over Rhodes.  Amazing start to the season for the Titans.

Today they face Division II Christian Brothers, 13-9.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 23, 2006, 10:52:17 am
It looks like IWU may be the real deal this season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 23, 2006, 01:58:34 pm
Looks like Wesleyan isn't having a problem replacing Lapinski and their 3rd baseman from last year as far as hitting is concerned. That's big for them because I doubt their pitching is as tough as it was last year. With Lapinski on the mound, those guys knew if they scored 3 or more runs, chances are they would win no problem, and I don't think they have anyone like that this year.  If i had to guess right now, I would say its a 3 team race with IWU, Augie, and Carthage, with Elmhurst not far behind.
Title: IWU in game
Post by: TitanRailer on March 23, 2006, 03:53:35 pm
IWU is up 3-0 on Christian Brothers after 3.5 innings.  Dave Dobosz, a 6-4 lefty, is on the hill.  He will be the 3 or 4 starter this year, so will get some conference work on Sundays.

Although IWU lost their top two pitchers from last year, they still have a very experienced staff, with 7 seniors.  I believe 4 of the 7 are lefties.  Should be very deep.  No one as dominant as the top 2 last year, but better in the bullpen.

In addition, averaging over 8 runs a game, so consistency is what is needed on the mound, which seems to be what they are getting.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 23, 2006, 04:31:24 pm
Sounds like the CCIW is going to be one heck of a struggle for teams this year. I am looking forward to the start of conference games. After the first few games have been played, what is everyone's outlook for the conference.

Right now it looks to me like this:

IWU
Carthage
Augie
Elmhurst
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on March 23, 2006, 04:55:25 pm
IWU now up 8-3 after 7.  Offense continues to score over 8 runs a game. 

Can't argue with IWU, Carthage, and Augie.  Would love to see North Park slip into fourth place and make the tourney.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 23, 2006, 10:01:10 pm
North Park dropped its home opener, 5-1, to IIT.  They outhit the Scarlet Hawks 10-9 but couldn't find the big hit to score some runs today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 24, 2006, 12:27:16 am

Can't argue with IWU, Carthage, and Augie.  Would love to see North Park slip into fourth place and make the tourney.

I would love to see NP make some noise as well. Let's hope they make a run at the conference tourney. It would only help the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 24, 2006, 01:01:19 am
It was a frustrating game for NPU today. As Mr. B said, the Vikings got plenty of baserunners -- they just couldn't get a hit when they needed one, and IIT did.

You can't always get an accurate read on a baseball team from one game, but if today's game was any indication of where NPU is now, they're definitely going to need to step it up if they want to get to conference-tourney level.
Title: IWU
Post by: TitanRailer on March 24, 2006, 09:36:21 am
Titans did finish with an 8-4 victory over Christian Brothers.  4-0 now on the Southern trip.  IWU will finish up on Saturday in St Louis against Coe College (7-7) and Wash U (15-2).

That IWU - Wash U matchup should be a great one.  I assume that Dubois will be on the hill for the Titans.  I would suspect a low scoring game, conference type game. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cokeaholic on March 24, 2006, 03:11:30 pm
North Park has been a plesant suprise so far, i was thinking they may struggle again this year as they lost a few of their top players from last year.  Fortunatly coach Johnson has changed the young players attitudes and they have a good young competitive team.  Hopefully this group stays together for a few years and changes the program around
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: fourtimeallcciw on March 24, 2006, 06:41:04 pm
From North Central's Website....

North Central defeated defending National Champ, UW-Whitewater, 9 - 5 today in Arizona.  The Cardinals are now 4 - 6 and the Warhawks fall to 2 - 1.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 24, 2006, 09:18:22 pm
Elmhurst lost to Wash U.  11-4 today.  Wash U.'s #1 pitcher threw a complete game so IWU shouldn't have to worry about facing him.  Elmhurst falls to 3-4-1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 25, 2006, 07:32:28 pm
Elmhurst Blue Jay (4-4-1) defeated #30 Washington University (16-3) 7-4 in 13 innings.  This was a big win for the Blue Jays.  Senior (2-0) Ben Stephens pitched six innings, gave up 3 hits and gave up one earn run.  The bullpen gave up 2 hits in 6 innings with 9 strikeouts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 25, 2006, 07:45:30 pm
Elmhurst Bullpen has been very good this season. They pitched a combined 29 innings, gave up 25 hits, allowed 8 earn runs, walk 11 batters, and struck out 30 batters.  What team in the CCIW has the best bullpen?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 26, 2006, 03:16:07 am
Well...first off...for any of the "what team in the CCIW has the best whatever" question.   These are so hard to answer because the conference season can be much different than the non-conference season. 

Secondly...Elmhurst (or whomever) can have the best bullpen in all of baseball but I think that starting pitching is the real key to being sucessful in the CCIW.  But, the way Elmurst's bullpen has performed so far is very impressive. 

This afternoon, Augie beat #28 Monmouth by the scores of 5-3 and 2-0.  Keving Kuntz moved to 4-0 in game one while Andrew Setter pitched 9 innings in a game two shutout while giving up only 6 hits and two walks. 

The Augie pitching staff has performed very well so far and the hitters are doing what they should at this point in the season.

Augie moves to 10-2 on the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 26, 2006, 03:19:38 am
IWU lost a DH to Coe yesterday.  Game 1 was by the score of 4-2 and game 2 was by the score of 5-0.  IWU drops to 8-3 (I think).  Just goes to show you why the game of baseball is so great...anyone can beat anyone on a given day.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 26, 2006, 05:22:36 pm
7-1 end of the seventh, Redmen on top. Evosevich started, Olson on in relief.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 26, 2006, 05:55:17 pm
North Park got swept by Dubuque yesterday in a pair of seven-inning games, 3-2 and 5-3. Another frustrating day for NPU hitting, as the Vikes had the tying run on 3rd with nobody out in the top of the final inning of the opener and they couldn't get him home. In the nightcap, NPU had a 3-1 lead going into the top of the sixth but couldn't hold the Spartans and gave up four runs. Once again, a lack of timely hitting and leaky defense brought down the Vikings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 26, 2006, 07:28:16 pm
Carthage defeats Benedictine 11-1 on Sunday to move to 7-4.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 26, 2006, 07:58:13 pm
Elmhurst Blue Jays (5-4-1) defeats #30 Washington University (17-4) 11-2 today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 26, 2006, 08:00:40 pm
Big day for Steve Coughlin at the plate, a 2-run homer and 5 RBI's. Looking at the boxscore, it looks like Augie played a lot of guys like normal in a non-conference game. The top 3 pitchers split time today, so Wednesday Cardinal Stritch will see probably see 3 or 4 pitchers (none of the top 3) I'm guessing to keep guys sharp for the weekend in case some relievers are needed
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 27, 2006, 01:51:08 am
The Blue Jays have a strong offense, they have reserves that can come off the bench and get the job done.  They also have a great pitching staff that could be the best in the CCIW, and amazing coaching staff.  I know with coach Jones in the driver seat, he will take his ball club deep into the post season this year. :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 27, 2006, 08:39:12 am
The Blue Jays have a strong offense, they have reserves that can come off the bench and get the job done. They also have a great pitching staff that could be the best in the CCIW, and amazing coaching staff. I know with coach Jones in the driver seat, he will take his ball club deep into the post season this year. :)

I think Carthage, Wesleyan and Augustana might have something to say about that this year... I can't speak for Wesleyan and Augie, but I know right now Carthage's team ERA is under 2.00.
Title: Sweetness
Post by: TitanRailer on March 27, 2006, 10:04:39 am
To date, here at the statistics for the eight CCIW teams, based on each schools website.  I even updated Elmhursts stats after 3 weekend games with Wash U.

Elmhurst (5-4-1), ERA 4.14, team BA .263

IWU (8-3), ERA 4.14, team BA .322

Augie (10-2), ERA 4.03, team BA .336

Carthage (7-4), ERA 1.77, team BA .300

Wheaton (4-7), ERA 8.07, team BA .309

North Park (4-9) ERA 5.48, team BA .307

Millikin (3-3), ERA 4.89, team BA .335

North Central (1-2), ERA 4.76, team BA .303

Seems a little premature to state that Elmhurst has the best pitching staff in the CCIW.  Four best record, tied for third best ERA, LAST in team BA and not even close, I wouldn't promote deep post-season success just yet.  Let's play a few conference games first.     
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 27, 2006, 10:15:36 am
TitanTrailer thanks for the info!! So far it looks like all the teams are hitting pretty well as a team.  All schools .300 or better except for 1. I think the difference so far for teams like Augie and IWU is that they seem to be getting the key hits when runners are in scoring position, whereas it sounds like NP is struggling with that and I know Carthage did a few games down in Florida. Excited for conference play to start this weekend and see the Redmen for my first time this year take on North Central in a DH Saturday in Kenosha...hopefully the weather isn't too nasty!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 27, 2006, 11:11:44 am
Sweetness...you've got to be kidding me.  The season is only a few weeks old and you are touting that a 5-4-1 team will go deep into the postseason?  How are we supossed to take your comments seriously the rest of the season?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Sweetness on March 27, 2006, 01:34:17 pm
Sweetness...you've got to be kidding me. The season is only a few weeks old and you are touting that a 5-4-1 team will go deep into the postseason? How are we supossed to take your comments seriously the rest of the season?
To date, here at the statistics for the eight CCIW teams, based on each schools website. I even updated Elmhursts stats after 3 weekend games with Wash U.

Elmhurst (5-4-1), ERA 4.14, team BA .263

IWU (8-3), ERA 4.14, team BA .322

Augie (10-2), ERA 4.03, team BA .336

Carthage (7-4), ERA 1.77, team BA .300

Wheaton (4-7), ERA 8.07, team BA .309

North Park (4-9) ERA 5.48, team BA .307

Millikin (3-3), ERA 4.89, team BA .335

North Central (1-2), ERA 4.76, team BA .303

Seems a little premature to state that Elmhurst has the best pitching staff in the CCIW. Four best record, tied for third best ERA, LAST in team BA and not even close, I wouldn't promote deep post-season success just yet. Let's play a few conference games first.
This Blue Jays team believes they can go deep into the post season.  Something they didn’t have last year.  I know it’s early in the season, and their batting average doesn’t show it now, but give them some time.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 27, 2006, 01:44:19 pm
"This Blue Jays team believes they can go deep into the post season.  Something they didn’t have last year.  I know it’s early in the season, and their batting average doesn’t show it now, but give them some time. "

Its great they have confidence and believe in their team, but the CCIW is a very tough Conference, and you're talking about a team that didn't even make the conference tournament last year. When you say they can make it deep into the playoffs, are you saying they can possibly make the conference tournament this year? Or are you saying that they can get past the conference tournament and make it to regionals or possibly even the D-3 world series?? Remeber, there aren't many at large bids out there, and with Carthage, IWU, and Augustana, I don't see Elmhurst having much of a chance to win the CCIW this year. Winning the conference tournament doesn't give you an automatic birth to regionals either. Our conference is ran on a points system. A few years back, Carthage went into the tournament already having earned the automatic bid to regionals without even having to win a game (they still won the tourney that year.) I think its great Elmhurst has an improving team, but I don't hear NP fans saying North Park is going deep in the playoffs and has the best this and best that. All they are saying is that they are improving, with the understanding that a few wins and confidence doesn't  automatically get you deep into the playoffs.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bstar21 on March 27, 2006, 02:04:07 pm
I guess we will see how good they are this weekend when  Elmhurst has to play Augustana.  Augie is just starting to play good....I watched them for the first time this weekend vs. Monmouth and a couple of their main hitters are strugglin, but their pitching is amazing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 27, 2006, 03:31:17 pm

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This Blue Jays team believes they can go deep into the post season.  Something they didn’t have last year.  I know it’s early in the season, and their batting average doesn’t show it now, but give them some time.
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Just believing you can do it does not get the job done... I see the conference this way... It always comes down to pitching. You can talk about hitting all you want, but consistent pitching is, and always has been, the key to baseball. Ask the Texas Rangers!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 27, 2006, 03:55:45 pm
Winning the conference tournament doesn't give you an automatic birth to regionals either. Our conference is ran on a points system.

Redmenfan... I think they actually changed the system this year. The regular season champ wins the title and has the option to choose where the tourney will be played. The CCIW Tourney champ gets the NCAA Automatic Bid.... just like hoops. It should make for an exciting tourney. Who ever wins the league should have a shot at an at-large bid(if they do not win the tourney) as the CCIW is a strong conference.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 27, 2006, 07:57:59 pm
I knew about the change in basketball but not baseball. What are some opinions about this? I think its good for the most part, but if you are in 1st place by lets say 5-6 games after 21 conference games, and don't win the conference tourney and then don't receive an at large bid, that is a tough pill to swallow. I really think that in baseball, more than any other sport, that a decent team can beat a team better than them on any given day.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 27, 2006, 09:37:11 pm
I'm not really a fan of the changes if that is the case.  Too many things can happen during that conference tourney weekend.  You can play 6 great weekends of baseball and then the 7th weekend could end your season just like that.  Maybe the conference is thinking that this is a way to get a second team into the tourney like was the case with the basketball tourney.  I just really hope that the point system is still in effect. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 27, 2006, 10:59:50 pm
New poll is out...

Augie is #17
Carthage is #29 (tied)
IWU receives no votes
Title: Re: Sweetness
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 28, 2006, 04:38:36 am
To date, here at the statistics for the eight CCIW teams, based on each schools website.  I even updated Elmhursts stats after 3 weekend games with Wash U.

North Central (1-2), ERA 4.76, team BA .303

Those numbers don't reflect North Central's Arizona trip. The Arizona results are now posted on the NCC website. The Cardinals are now 4-6, with a team ERA of 6.70 and a team BA of .287.

Their team ERA could be worse than it actually is. The Cards had their jocks handed to them by top-ranked College of New Jersey, 23-4, and they also gave up double-digit runs to Johns Hopkins (17-5) and Williams (10-0). The 19 errors committed by the Napervillains in their first ten games have helped keep that team ERA below the stratosphere to a merely Rockies-bad level.

Early-season statistics are inherently deceptive, because CCIW teams play wildy varying levels of non-conference competition. North Central's played some very tough opponents -- College of New Jersey roughs up everybody, although the Cards were one of their most humiliated victims, and Johns Hopkins (12-3-1) and Williams (6-3) are off to good starts. I'm not sure that there's much to be gained from simply posting team stats at this early stage, since comparisons can be deceiving without knowing the caliber of the opposition for each respective CCIW team.

Perhaps it will be a little easier to gauge Elmhurst if you look at the records of the teams that the 'jays have played thus far:

Macalester (lost to and tied Elmhurst), 6-4
St. Olaf (split with Elmhurst), 5-2
Hanover (split with Elmhurst), 9-4
Rhodes (beat Elmhurst), 17-8
Washington MO (lost two of three to Elmhurst), 17-4
Coe (beat Elmhurst), 10-8

All six teams that have played the 'jays have winning records, and they own a cumulative 64-30 mark. Elmhurst has gone 5-5 against those six teams, scoring only four fewer runs (56-60) than those opponents. It appears at first blush that Elmhurst has held its own against some solid competition.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 28, 2006, 08:59:00 am
Even though it doesn't mean much at this point, congratulations to Augustana and Carthage on their rankings. How is IWU not receiving any votes?? I haven't seen the poll yet, where I tried to look this morning they still had the preseason poll listed. I thought Wesleyan was 8-3 or something like that with some impressive wins. If they really dropped completely out of the poll that makes absolutely no sense to me
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 28, 2006, 09:35:32 am
I think getting swept by Coe on the weekend really hurt....although I do agree that the poll does not mean too much.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2006, 02:49:39 pm
New poll is out...

Augie is #17
Carthage is #29 (tied)
IWU receives no votes

I am shocked to see that IWU received no votes... I thought for sure they would stay close to the top with the start they had against some tough teams down south.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2006, 04:09:11 pm
I am befuddled as to how an 8-3 IWU team gets no votes, not even in the region and a 5-4-1 Elmhurst team get the #6 Central Region ranking?

I also think that Carthage is a bit high right now in the region considering that Washinton University(SLIAC) is 17-4...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2006, 05:05:32 pm
NCAA Central Region rankings:

1. Wartburg (12-5)
2. Augustana (11-4)
3. Simpson (7-1)
4. Carthage (7-4)
5. Washington (17-4)
6. Elmhurst (5-4-1)

Interestingly, IWU(8-3) was left out of the regional ranking. Anyone have any thoughts on this regional ranking?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 28, 2006, 06:49:34 pm
Where did you get those regional rankings?  I don't think they are from the NCAA b/c they usually don't put them out until mid April I think.  So if they are not the NCAA's, then they mean absolutely nothing.  By the way, Augie is only 10-2 so they don't even have the right info. 


These polls are worthless at this point in the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2006, 06:59:40 pm
Here is the link... it is the second page of the ABCA NCAA D3 Baseball Poll:

Click on today's date and scroll down to the regional rankings...

http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 28, 2006, 08:23:57 pm
Thanks BigPoppa....I didn't even realize there was a 2nd page on that document.  I only looked at the national poll.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 28, 2006, 08:31:30 pm
North Park fell to Dominican today, 3-1. The Vikings' bats have gone ice-cold since they returned from Arizona.

I also think that Carthage is a bit high right now in the region considering that Washinton University(SLIAC) is 17-4...

Wash U is in the UAA (Chicago, Case Western, NYU, Rochester, etc.), not the SLIAC.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2006, 08:36:18 pm
My fault on the Wash U in the SLIAC thing... I never verified it. Thanks for catching it.

What exactly is the UAA? I have heard of it a few times, but the schools seem too spread out to be an actual conference.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 28, 2006, 08:53:34 pm
What exactly is the UAA? I have heard of it a few times, but the schools seem too spread out to be an actual conference.

No, it's an actual, eight-member, all-sports conference. It's one of two "plane" conferences in D3 (as opposed to "bus or van" conferences), but the member schools can afford all that air travel in their athletic department budgets, since they're all richer than Croesus. I think that the smallest endowment among the eight members is $600m, or something like that. I'll bet that there are countries in Africa whose gross national product can't match the University of Chicago's endowment.

All eight UAA members are private, medium-sized research universities that are considered among America's academic elite. That sets them apart from most D3 members, since D3 tends to be dominated by small liberal arts colleges such as the eight that make up the CCIW.

The eight UAA members (Brandeis, NYU, Rochester, Carnegie Mellon, Emory, Case Western, Chicago, and Wash U) are spread out among D3's various regions, but UAA contests are considered to be regional games as well by D3.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2006, 09:05:06 pm
Sager... thanks for the info... Just when you think you know it all....
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 28, 2006, 11:21:32 pm
I think the only time they play in baseball is some weekend round-robin tourney down in Florida....happened a few weeks ago.  So, it is a conference, but not really when it comes to baseball.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on March 29, 2006, 12:32:45 pm
I can't imagine one voter or poster on this board really thinks IWU is the fourth best team in the conference.  It all gets started this weekend!

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 29, 2006, 01:49:38 pm
I can't imagine one voter or poster on this board really thinks IWU is the fourth best team in the conference. It all gets started this weekend!



Not anyone who follows the CCIW would think that, that's for sure. I finally get to see the Redmen in action today for my first time in a non conference game against Cardinal Stritch. Carthage will probably throw 3 or 4 pitchers (none of their top 3). This will be their final tune-up before conference starts this weekend against North Central. I'm sure if IWU gets a sweep this weekend, they'll probably be right back in the new poll that comes out April 3rd. Even though we all kind of agree that a poll with only 7 voters may not mean much, it would still be nice to have 3 teams from the conference hopefully all be in the top 25 at one point this season at the same time.
Title: Re: Sweetness
Post by: TitanRailer on March 29, 2006, 03:03:12 pm
To date, here at the statistics for the eight CCIW teams, based on each schools website.  I even updated Elmhursts stats after 3 weekend games with Wash U.

North Central (1-2), ERA 4.76, team BA .303

Those numbers don't reflect North Central's Arizona trip. The Arizona results are now posted on the NCC website. The Cardinals are now 4-6, with a team ERA of 6.70 and a team BA of .287.

Their team ERA could be worse than it actually is. The Cards had their jocks handed to them by top-ranked College of New Jersey, 23-4, and they also gave up double-digit runs to Johns Hopkins (17-5) and Williams (10-0). The 19 errors committed by the Napervillains in their first ten games have helped keep that team ERA below the stratosphere to a merely Rockies-bad level.

Early-season statistics are inherently deceptive, because CCIW teams play wildy varying levels of non-conference competition. North Central's played some very tough opponents -- College of New Jersey roughs up everybody, although the Cards were one of their most humiliated victims, and Johns Hopkins (12-3-1) and Williams (6-3) are off to good starts. I'm not sure that there's much to be gained from simply posting team stats at this early stage, since comparisons can be deceiving without knowing the caliber of the opposition for each respective CCIW team.

Perhaps it will be a little easier to gauge Elmhurst if you look at the records of the teams that the 'jays have played thus far:

Macalester (lost to and tied Elmhurst), 6-4
St. Olaf (split with Elmhurst), 5-2
Hanover (split with Elmhurst), 9-4
Rhodes (beat Elmhurst), 17-8
Washington MO (lost two of three to Elmhurst), 17-4
Coe (beat Elmhurst), 10-8

All six teams that have played the 'jays have winning records, and they own a cumulative 64-30 mark. Elmhurst has gone 5-5 against those six teams, scoring only four fewer runs (56-60) than those opponents. It appears at first blush that Elmhurst has held its own against some solid competition.



Mr. Sager - you are correct that your look is a first blush.  Since you wanted to throw opponents into the mix, here you go:

                             Record     Opp Rec       Runs-RunsAgainst
Carthage                7-4         61-42            60-26
IWU                        8-3         92-53            73-53
Augustana             10-2        59-62            90-58
Elmhurst                 5-5         64-30            56-50

Elmhurst is average (.500) against good competition.  Carthage and IWU are great against very stiff competition, Augie opponents not that great, but they are winning.  In addition, Elmhurst has worst ERA among these schools, worst record, worst BA, yet, they are ranked above IWU.  No way you cut it makes any sense.  That is why these polls are meaningless this early in the season and I question who votes in them.

I do agree that pre-conference stats serve little purpose, but I am having trouble understanding why a .500 team in Elmhurst is getting attention as a contender when they haven't done anything accept win HALF their games. 

I guess the voters believe they can go far into the post-season as well...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 29, 2006, 03:07:16 pm
Thought some D-3 fans might be interested in this. I was watching a brewers spring training game monday night and Vinny Rottino flied out deep to end the game. Rottino is a UW-Lacrosse grad, and grew up in Racine, WI. He is currently hitting .455 during spring training games, and is playing in triple A this year. The announcers said this undrafted kid will definately be a major leaguer in the near future!! Vinny Works out at Carthage College all winter long and hits live against their pitchers as well as helps out with Christmas baseball camps. He is one of the nicest guys I've met and nobody works harder. He was in the weight room daily at 7 a.m. with Scott Roehl (Double A pitcher in the cleveland system from Kenosha) every day.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 29, 2006, 03:37:00 pm
One great thing about having big league/minor league players in for workouts is it shows your current guys just how hard they need to work to be successful in the game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 29, 2006, 05:12:37 pm
Nice research, TitanRailer. It helps flesh out the records of the CCIW contenders by showing their strength of schedule.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 29, 2006, 07:51:48 pm
Carthage wins their home opener today 3-1 over Cardinal Stritch... It looks as though the Carthage bats struggled a bit today by only scoring 3 runs versus a 1-12 team that is giving up an average of over 8 runs per game. Hopefully, it was a fluke and Carthage gets the bats rolling against North Central this weekend.

No other scores have been reported yet.


Cardinal Stritch....  000 001 000 -  1  7  2
Carthage............   020 000 10X -  3  7  1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 29, 2006, 08:36:18 pm
Augustana beat Loras today 10-1.  Augustana goes to 11-2 and Loras drops to 7-11-1.  Augustana's Andrew Gwost (2-0)  picked up the win.  Augie's pitchers only gave up 5 hits in the 9 inning game.  Augie had 12 hits.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 29, 2006, 09:32:11 pm
Yes, the Carthage bats were dead. Cardinal Stritch had a guy throwing i'm guessing that honestly topped out at 70... if that.  There was almost an arc on his fastball on the way to home plate.  Everyone that's played knows when you face a guy like that, you get to agressive and try hitting the ball out of the park every swing instead of using your normal approach.  Hopefully Carthage can get the bats going this weekend against NC. (By the way, Augie had some absolute classic lines that made me along with some other former players who were standing by the dugout just completely crack up!)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Dirty Dozen on March 30, 2006, 02:32:02 am
I had a chance to get out and see Elmhurst play today.  I realize they were only playing Concordia today, but I must admit.....I was very impressed with their team.  They played errorless defense.  Coach Jones ran out six pitchers today who all looked very impressive.  I didn't expect to see a very strong offense in looking at their stats but after watching them swing the bats today and run the bases, they looked pretty good.  (3 home runs were hit and they were very aggressive on the basepaths hitting and running, stealing, and taking the extra base)  Once again, I'm not going to get too excited because it was only Concordia, but to me it looks like they have the makings of a contending team.  Augustana is coming to town on Saturday so we'll see how they stack up.  A lot of us thought originally that the CCIW may be down this year.  From all indications, the league looks pretty strong as it always is.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 30, 2006, 10:42:03 am
Augie vs. Elmhurst should be a good matchup... Elmhurst has a .500 record against top notch opponents and Augie has a great record against below average teams. I have a feeling that they are much more evenly matched than everyone thinks. The next two weeks will give us a chance to sort out the contenders from the pretenders.

IWU vs Wheaton... IWU should sweep this one 3-0

Millikin vs North Park... Millikin wins this series 2-1

Augie vs Elmhurst... Elmhurst 2-1

Carthage vs North Central... Carthage 3-0

Thoughts?

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 30, 2006, 12:14:05 pm
My only switch would be that Augie takes the series 2-1 over Elmhurst.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 30, 2006, 12:26:21 pm
Augie/Elmhurst is a series that could either way... It should give us an idea of where these two teams really stand.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on March 30, 2006, 12:33:30 pm
Augie vs. Elmhurst should be a good matchup... Elmhurst has a .500 record against top notch opponents and Augie has a great record against below average teams. I have a feeling that they are much more evenly matched than everyone thinks. The next two weeks will give us a chance to sort out the contenders from the pretenders.

IWU vs Wheaton... IWU should sweep this one 3-0

Millikin vs North Park... Millikin wins this series 2-1

Augie vs Elmhurst... Elmhurst 2-1

Carthage vs North Central... Carthage 3-0

Thoughts?



IWU over Wheaton 3-0

Millikin over North Park 3-0

Augie over Elmhurst 3-0

Carthage over North Central 3-0
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 30, 2006, 01:14:16 pm
"IWU over Wheaton 3-0
Millikin over North Park 3-0
Augie over Elmhurst 3-0
Carthage over North Central 3-0 "

That would be something. A sweep in the CCIW isn't  easy, no matter who you are playing. I know Carthage two years ago was losing a game to north park 9-1 through 3 innings before finally waking up. I would be very surprised if all the series were sweeps, especially the Augie/Elmhurst series.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 30, 2006, 01:51:13 pm
What's the story with Millikin? Are they the as good as their record indicates? It looks like they beat up on some teams down south, but lost to some of the better teams they faced.

It certainly seems as if they are swinging it a bit more than in the past.
Title: Re: Lighten up Sweetness
Post by: BLUEJAYFAITHFUL on March 30, 2006, 07:00:53 pm
Hey Sweetness:

You sound down on Coach Jones?  In his defense, it's early on in the season.  Do you think he may be trying to learn a little more about his team and what his reserves can do?  How will he ever know about what his reserves can do unless he plays them in these games?   It's the 2nd game on a 9 game swing.  There's a lot of baseball left.  Lighten up.  Oh by the way, what doesn't show up in the box score, those reserves crushed the ball right at people including Matt Brauer who hit a missle right at the 3B in the 7th (I was told they played 2-7 inning games so it couldn't have been the 9th)  In addition, Pat Meginniss, Travis Cox, and Brett Lilley hit the ball very hard too and had nothing to show for it.  Is that Coach Jones's fault?  I heard his starting pitching in that game (and I don't know who it was?) was continuously not getting ahead of hitters, walked some guys, and had a lot of 3 ball counts.  Is that Coach Jones's fault?   Nick Ferrin who has been a very reliable and steady pitcher for the Jays came in in relief of the starter and hit his first batter he faced.  Was it the reserves fault those pitchers weren't ahead of hitters and Ferrin hit a batter who eventually scored?

I think you should be happy the Jays have a coach who has enough balls to play his reserves every now and then to give them a chance.  In the long run, won't they be better off if the Bluejays have a strong bench?  Coach Jones probably already has a good idea of what his starters can do.

Hang in there.  Coach Jones is a veteran Coach, has been around the block and knows what he's doing.  The Jays have a strong club and playing the reserves now when he can will only strengthen their team in the long run.   So chill bro - it aint the end of the world.


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BLUEJAYFAITHFUL on March 30, 2006, 07:24:24 pm
To anyone interested in the state of Elmhurst baseball all you have to do is read the previous quote made by Dirty Dozen a few weeks ago.  Dirty Dozen is actually Clark Jones, head baseball coach of Elmhurst College.  This fact can be verified by the fact the Jones used his own Elmhurst email account that is read CJones@elmhurst.edu. 

One would have to question the intelligence of someone who tries to hide his identity but then fails to realize that providing a readily accessable email address consisting of your own name will hardly fool even the slowest of readers. 

If this was just a foolish act of a person that really tries to promote his team to the best of his ability, then this message would go unnoticed.  But Jones is a horrible leader that does not care at all about his field, his equipment, his assistants, and most important his players.  He constantly lies to, backstabs on, and hinders any advancement of ability by his piss poor coaching ability. 

My only desire in bringing this to light is the hope that the more people know about his inabilities as a coach the greater the chance future players won't have to experience what many have already have had to endure.   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 30, 2006, 09:15:52 pm
OH MAN!!  Caught red-handed.  Nice work BLUEJAYFAITHFUL.  I did go check the profile and I see that it does match his e-mail on the Elmhurst Baseball website.  This is really pretty unbelievable that a coach would come on here and post.  If you have to try to defend your team on some message board, then that is just sad.  Spend that extra time doing something constructive for your team.  All it has now done is cast a bad mark on your program.  Just go prove it on the field.
Title: Re: Lighten up Sweetness
Post by: augie_superfan on March 30, 2006, 09:34:51 pm
Hey Sweetness:

I heard his starting pitching in that game (and I don't know who it was?) was continuously not getting ahead of hitters, walked some guys, and had a lot of 3 ball counts.  Is that Coach Jones's fault?   Nick Ferrin who has been a very reliable and steady pitcher for the Jays came in in relief of the starter and hit his first batter he faced.  Was it the reserves fault those pitchers weren't ahead of hitters and Ferrin hit a batter who eventually scored?

I think you should be happy the Jays have a coach who has enough balls to play his reserves every now and then to give them a chance.  In the long run, won't they be better off if the Bluejays have a strong bench?  Coach Jones probably already has a good idea of what his starters can do.

Hang in there.  Coach Jones is a veteran Coach, has been around the block and knows what he's doing.  The Jays have a strong club and playing the reserves now when he can will only strengthen their team in the long run.   So chill bro - it aint the end of the world.




Looking a little longer at what Dirty Dozen said, I really hope it wasn't Coach Jones himself and somehow someone else was able to sign up under his e-mail address...but I doubt it.  I mean, look at some of the things that were said about his own pitchers.  Calling them out on a message board is just crap.  So, when things go well on your team, you'll take credit for it.  But when things go bad, you'll say it wasn't your fault?  PATHETIC.  Also...way to boast about yourself...real classy.  Please, for Coach Jones' sake, I hope it somehow wasn't him b/c this looks bad.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Dirty Dozen on March 31, 2006, 08:55:30 am
Hey Bluejay Faithful:

You don't miss a trick........However, a speach was made about a month ago in practice in which I made reference to our team as the "Dirty Dozen".  Have you ever seen the movie "Dirty Dozen"?  It's about a bunch of guys who were underdogs and for some reason or another had something wrong with them, had a little quirk, or perhaps had something happen to them in their past that has prevented them from achieving success.  They were underdogs in every sense of the word.  Because of this, they were labeld "Dirty Dozen".  But, they were chosen for a very special mission in which nobody thought they could succeed.  A "mission impossible" if you will.  The people choosing them for this mission however failed to realize that they were all very special in their own way.  They weren't perfect and were far from it.  But if given a proper role, they could succeed.  Do you see where I'm going with this...............Our players aren't perfect.  They're probably not the most talented group in the CCIW.  But together, with specific roles and specific goals they can win any battle they set their mind on.

So if you think our players didn't know who "Dirty Dozen" was............you're vastly mistaken.  You see...........they're all underdogs - including me.  We don't have the nicest field in the league, we don't have the nicest uniforms, or the largest budgets.  We have normal everyday players who love the game and just want to succeed in their own right.  They and I do the best they can with what they got.  If that' winning the CCIW, then who am I to stand in their way.

As far as calling players out, and I can't remember if you or someone else acused me of doing that................I provide facts.  If they can't handle the heat, maybe they should't be in the kitchen.  Our players know I'm going to tell them when they do well, and I going to let them know when they don't.  If that's calling them out..........then I'm calling them out.

One last thing, I want my players to read D3 Hoops (Baseball)..........Many of you give away some good secrets about your prospective teams.  I also want them to know I read this too. 

There's a Rhyme and Reason behind everything "Bluejay Faithful"......you should know that by now.

Dirty Dozen
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 31, 2006, 09:15:55 am
Well if Dirty Dozen is really Elmhurst's head coach, I gotta say this is the first time I've ever heard of a head coach getting involved on a message board where fans just chat and give their opinion on certain situations. I would say most coaches would tell their players don't worry about what is said on some stupid message board and surely not allow their players or themselves to write on it. I don't know what secrets you are talking about people giving away either. How is it a secret to list stats, or say who did well in a certain game, or say this guy is hurt and won't be able to play. Its not a secret, look at the boxscore and its very clear who's playing and who's not. I agree with what was stated earlier, I just hope dirty dozen isn't really Elmhurst's head baseball coach, it reflects bad on their program, and especially him if it is.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on March 31, 2006, 10:11:35 am
Coach Jones...now that you seem to think it is alright to post here as a coach in the conference...maybe you will address my statement earlier.  Is it still not your fault when your pitchers don't perform in a game?  To me, your previous statements are just horrible.  Taking the credit for winning and making good lineup changes but not when your pitchers don't perform?  You are responsible for everything that happens on your team good or bad....that's what you're getting paid for atleast. 

Also, your little "feel good" story is nice but it still is not a way to cover up the way you tried to act in the past.  BOTTOM LINE:  You, as a coach in the CCIW, were WAY out of line for posting on this message board under some alias and there is no little story you can tell to cover that up.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on March 31, 2006, 10:15:25 am
Wow! That's pretty pathetic defending yourself while pretending to be someone else!

Thank God Augie doesn't know how to use a computer!!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 31, 2006, 02:42:30 pm
Wow! That's pretty pathetic defending yourself while pretending to be someone else!

Thank God Augie doesn't know how to use a computer!!!!


Great line, Irish! The funny thing is it is probably true.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on March 31, 2006, 05:02:22 pm
My son went through grade-junior high-and high school with Augie.  It's doubtful he doesn't know how to use a computer.  Kenosha schools required it.

Now, if he were my age...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 31, 2006, 08:08:42 pm
I know we all kid about Augie Schmidt, but when you really think about it, who wouldn't want to play for they guy?!! His players are more loyal to him than any other program I have ever been associated with or have even heard about.

Sure... he drives you crazy when you play for him, but the moment you leave the program you will do anything to find a way to stay connected to it... parents included. I know that my father looks forward to Carthage playing near my hometown so that he can track down Augie and just chat for a few minutes between BP and the game. I think the true testament of how good of a coach he really is has to do with parents seeing him tear their little boy down only to rebuild him as a much stronger man... physically and mentally.

He teaches life through the game. I know that I have been very successful in my post-Carthage career because of what he drilled into me while I played. You have to show up every day and play your heart out... on the field or in the office.

I know of no other program that is as much of a family as Carthage Baseball. Maybe I see the world through Redmen colored glasses, but those glasses have opened many doors for me in my life. After reading all of the choas that is going on with the Elmhurst fiasco, I am sure proud that I played at Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 31, 2006, 08:35:11 pm
To anyone interested in the state of Elmhurst baseball all you have to do is read the previous quote made by Dirty Dozen a few weeks ago.  Dirty Dozen is actually Clark Jones, head baseball coach of Elmhurst College.  This fact can be verified by the fact the Jones used his own Elmhurst email account that is read CJones@elmhurst.edu. 

According to the Elmhurst baseball website, the head coach's e-mail address is clarkj@elmhurst.edu.  I seriously doubt any coach would have the time or desire to check out the chat rooms and discussion boards at this time of year; they are far too busy conducting practices and filling out line-up cards!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 31, 2006, 08:57:43 pm
To anyone interested in the state of Elmhurst baseball all you have to do is read the previous quote made by Dirty Dozen a few weeks ago.  Dirty Dozen is actually Clark Jones, head baseball coach of Elmhurst College.  This fact can be verified by the fact the Jones used his own Elmhurst email account that is read CJones@elmhurst.edu. 

According to the Elmhurst baseball website, the head coach's e-mail address is clarkj@elmhurst.edu.  I seriously doubt any coach would have the time or desire to check out the chat rooms and discussion boards at this time of year; they are far too busy conducting practices and filling out line-up cards!

If you double check the email address attached to the "dirty dozen" postings it is in fact clarkj@elmhurst.edu (http://clarkj@elmhurst.edu)... not the previously stated cjones@elmhurst .edu
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BLUEJAYFAITHFUL on March 31, 2006, 09:03:08 pm
Clark

Stop sending me personal messages under a different name - baseballnut.   I still know it's you because YOU ARE STILL USING YOUR SCHOOL EMAIL. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BLUEJAYFAITHFUL on March 31, 2006, 09:10:01 pm
This message is to big poppa.

Double click on Dirty Dozen's Icon box and you'll see that the email address actually is clarkj@elmhurst.edu and I see that you've have cross referenced that on Elmhurst College's website.  I apologize for my typo.  But realize that my message still holds true as well as everything else I plan on writing about Clark.   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BLUEJAYFAITHFUL on March 31, 2006, 09:31:25 pm
Clark

I liked your message.  It brought a tear to my eye.   

I won't bother to address your obvious lie.  I'm sure Stevie Wonder blindfolded could see through it.   I would like to discuss your "rhyme and reason" for typing in the third person and talking about how Clark Jones made such a great move bringing in an assistant who played in the major (Please refer to page 9). 

I would also like to know your "rhyme and reason" for labeling your team as only normal, underdog guys who do the best with "what they got".  Clark, if you would only give one ounce of effort everyone of those players could be all-stars.  Every kid who plays college baseball has potential, but your pathetic attempt at "coaching" only hurts their chances of becoming more than "normal". 

I believe coaches should look at their players by what they could be.  As opposed to designating them to role players, or underdogs.  You only look at kids as income into the school in order to preserve your job. 

Nobody thinks of Elmhurst baseball as a family.  No one is proud to say they played for Elmhurst.  No wonder you don't have any money.  Why would someone donate to a program that they won't even admit to playing for. 

I just wish those kids now can get past your overbearing stupidity and get to play the game the way it is supposed to be played. 

 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 01, 2006, 01:52:06 am
Bluejay... I understand that you are fervent in your support of Elmhurst and I admire that, but I am nearly certain that your methods may only hurt the program you care about... "don't fight in front of the kids." Take it somewhere else... it seems as though this is a private matter and should be addressed as such.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 01, 2006, 02:57:34 am
It's a good thing the Elmhurst coach is only trying to teach life lessons and not spelling.    ;D ;D ;D

But then again, baseball players abbreviate everything anyway, right poppa??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 01, 2006, 11:48:20 am
Bluejay... I understand that you are fervent in your support of Elmhurst and I admire that, but I am nearly certain that your methods may only hurt the program you care about... "don't fight in front of the kids." Take it somewhere else... it seems as though this is a private matter and should be addressed as such.

I agree with Poppa. There appears to be an ongoing issue between the coach and a current or former player. This is not the place to have that argument. This has become a personal issue between these two and does not belong on this board.

I'm sure the Kenosha school system requires students to be computer literate but when Augie was going through the system, there was no such thing as personal computers. Augie probably did his typing on an old Underwood and knowing him, he probably struggled to get the paper loaded!!!

Still 10 sugars, right Aug?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 01, 2006, 12:49:02 pm
Actually, I believe those first cumbersome computers in Kenosha Unified were PWPs, or "personal word processors."  The computer labs in each school did, indeed, keep up with the times.  Since my son was in the same class (year), I can say with certainty that kids in Kenosha schools in those days DID use computers.  How computer literate they became is quite another matter.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 01, 2006, 01:00:31 pm
I know that when I had workstudy with Augie back in the day, I used to have to check his email for him. I would walk into his office and he was sitting in front of the PC looking lost... or playing the back nine at TPC Sawgrass.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 01, 2006, 02:49:22 pm
Quit taking things so literally prof! All the kidding about Augie is good natured. I don't think anyone on this board cares if he used a computer or typewriter while he was attending Kenosha schools. Augie and computers are not very friendly to one another!

(see Poppa's post!)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 01, 2006, 03:03:57 pm
I must have missed my post in which I objected to kidding Augie, or about Augie.  Sorry about that!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 01, 2006, 03:22:27 pm
Carthage wins game #1 over NCC 2-1... Carthage won it on a bases loaded walk in the bottom of the 7th. Carthage bats are struggling, but the pitching has been amazing... team ERA under 2.00 right now.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 01, 2006, 06:55:17 pm
Augie wins 11-5 and 7-1....this one probably wasn't Coach Jones' fault since his pitchers got ripped. ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 01, 2006, 08:00:07 pm
A few more notes on the Augustana games today.

In game 1, Kevin Kuntz threw a complete game (7 inn.) 3 hitter giving up 0 ER (5 R).  He is now 5-0 on the season with a 1.47 ERA.

In game 2, Andrew Setter threw a complete game (9 inn.) 4 hitter giving up 1 ER.  He is now 4-0 with a 2.16 ERA.


Looks like Carthage won both today over NCC.  As BigPoppa said, Carthage's pitching staff has an unbelievable 1.53 team ERA after the games today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 01, 2006, 11:44:04 pm
Great start for North Park this year.

They beat Millikin by the scores of 1-0 and 8-7 today.

Also, IWU and Wheaton split.  Wheaton won 2-0 and IWU won 11-3.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 02, 2006, 04:09:16 pm
4-3 NCC at the end of 5
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 02, 2006, 04:40:26 pm
Augie/Elmhurst game postponed till Monday
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 02, 2006, 05:21:16 pm
Carthage won today's game against NCC 6-4, that's all the details i have now. Also just want to say congratulations to North Park on sweeping Millikin. I have nothing against Millikin, but when is the last time NP got a sweep in a conference DH?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: boombastic1 on April 02, 2006, 06:28:06 pm
Bud Lite Presents:  Real Men of Genius

Today we solute you Mr. Secret Identity Guy
They say those who can't play, coach
apparently those who can't coach make up false identities and call out their own players on the CCIW chatboard

--thanks for the laugh Coach Jones
--I can't wait until to come to IWU--I'm going to heckle the **** out of you
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 02, 2006, 06:51:26 pm
Way to start conference play!! My guess was three pairs of long underwear for Augie today!!!

I wish I was going to be in town on Tuesday to watch the twinbill at Elmhurst. I always had a lot of respect for Coach Jones when my favorite Redman was playing. Now it will be rather difficult to look at him without feeling sorry for him!! It would be strange, but I wouldn't mind a coach posting on here as long as he was honest about who he was. The deceit by Coach Jones makes him look like a sad little fool.

Great start Redmen!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 02, 2006, 09:05:44 pm
Congrats to North Park on starting the season 3-0 after beating Millikin 11-7 today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 03, 2006, 06:49:59 am
Well, Titan Railer, you were right about the Millikin @ NPU series being a sweep. What you got wrong were the identities of the sweeper and the swept. NPU took both ends of the Saturday doubleheader, 1-0 and 8-7 (10). In the opener, Joe DiChristina threw a four-hit shutout, allowing only one walk. In the nightcap, the Vikings mounted a huge comeback to overcome an early 6-0 deficit, winning the game in the tenth on Oney Guillen's sacrifice fly. On Sunday, the Vikings completed the three-game series sweep by besting the Big Blue, 11-7. It marks the first time in eight years that North Park has opened CCIW play with a 3-0 record.

Looks like the Vikings' bats have finally warmed up. NPU next faces North Central in a Tuesday doubleheader at Holmgren Athletic Complex.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 03, 2006, 10:05:41 am
Tuesday's double headers could get interesting seeing that every teams top 3 won't be able to go. Each team will start their 4 and 5 I'm sure, unless teams had to use them in long relief this weekend. Carthage's 4 and 5 are both solid pitchers, and both will have shots to be weekend starters next year after Evosovich and Olson graduate.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 03, 2006, 11:18:32 am
Not sure what the weather is like up north, but non-stop rain all night and morning.  Doubtful the IWU game will take place today. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 01:32:31 pm
How is the IWU game looking??? On or off???

What does everyone think of the opening weekend? I am certain their were a few surprises... NPU sweeping Millikin and IWU spilitting with Wheaton. Gotta love the CCIW when everyone knocks everyone around.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 03, 2006, 03:17:14 pm
IWU at Wheaton postponed until Wednesday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 03, 2006, 03:33:28 pm
How is the IWU game looking??? On or off???

What does everyone think of the opening weekend? I am certain their were a few surprises... NPU sweeping Millikin and IWU spilitting with Wheaton. Gotta love the CCIW when everyone knocks everyone around.

I am not sure why IWU didn't hit Price.  They never got their leadoff batter on base in any inning and only reached second base in the last inning, had the bases loaded with one out, grounded into double play to end the game.  Against the lefty, the Titans had all righties in the lineup.  Seems they had everything on their side, except the aluminum.   

As for opening weekend, pitching is the success.  Look at these game one scores, when teams threw their aces:  Wheaton 2, IWU 0; Carthage 2, NCC 1; NP 1, Millikin 0.  Augie did break the pattern with an 11-5 win over Elmhurst.

I think it is great to see NP sweep Millikin.  They will now host NCC, so the success could continue.  If they can sneak into the fourth playoff spot, these are the wins they need.

Poppa - love your latest quote, the plate hasn't moved in 150 years.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 03:42:24 pm

Poppa - love your latest quote, the plate hasn't moved in 150 years.

Thanks... I try to give everybody the experience of playing for Augie. I try to rotate the quotes every few weeks... he still cracks me up.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 03, 2006, 04:57:25 pm
Augie moves up to #14 and Carthage to #22 in the new poll. Congrats to both teams, keep it up
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 07:50:31 pm
Augie moves up to #14 and Carthage to #22 in the new poll. Congrats to both teams, keep it up

That sets up a great 3-game series between Augustana and Carthage in Kenosha this weekend... assuming that neither stumbles this week.

Any predictions? I am very curious to see how Carthage responds tomorrow @ Elmhurst. Augustana should not have a problem tomorrow with Wheaton who is going to play two on Tues, one on Weds, one Fri and two on Sat... 6 CCIW games in 5 days. That's a tough stretch for the arms.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 03, 2006, 08:59:10 pm
I think that Carthage is going to roll in the CCIW because of their pitching. They are easily posting better numbers than the rest of the conference. I doubt that anyone will pitch as well as them and we all know it is only a matter of time before they start hitting the ball all over the park. I hate to say it because I am not a Carthage fan.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2006, 09:11:58 pm
I think that Carthage is going to roll in the CCIW because of their pitching. They are easily posting better numbers than the rest of the conference. I doubt that anyone will pitch as well as them and we all know it is only a matter of time before they start hitting the ball all over the park. I hate to say it because I am not a Carthage fan.

Aye, Aye, Captain... gotta love a man who knows his rum!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 03, 2006, 10:25:16 pm
Augustana beat Elmhurst 4-3 on a Kevin Ryan bases loaded single in the bottom of the ninth.  Brandon Engle went the distance and gave up 5 hits and 3 ER.  Should be a great matchup of starting pitching come next weekend up at Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 04, 2006, 06:28:58 am
North Central's pitching staff does not seem to have picked up much from its disastrous non-conference performance, so it's important that NPU stays aggressive at the plate against the Cardinals. As Titan Railer said, this is a prime opportunity for NPU to make some early headway in the CCIW and to propel the Vikings further away from cellar-dweller status.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 09:39:57 am
I agree, Sager... NPU can really do some damage in the CCIW with another solid week. Looks like Coach Luke Johnson has really made some improvements in his short time there.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 04, 2006, 10:56:08 am
I heard Elmhurst never tarped their field...any word on what type of condition it is in? If it is unplayable, I know Carthage tarped theirs, maybe the games could be moved to Kenosha. If anyone finds out anything, please let me know
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 04, 2006, 11:40:43 am
I heard Elmhurst never tarped their field...any word on what type of condition it is in? If it is unplayable, I know Carthage tarped theirs, maybe the games could be moved to Kenosha. If anyone finds out anything, please let me know

From what I have read on this website, it would not surprise me if the Elmhurst coach "forgot" to tarp his field in order to get his pitchers more rest and avoid an 0-5 CCIW start.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 12:23:33 pm
I would love to see the game moved to Carthage if Elmhurst is unplayable. I think it only makes sense... they can flip the other game later in the season. I know it's been done in the past.

How is the weather everywhere else?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 12:33:03 pm
Carthage just posted that the game will be played, but it has been moved back from a 1PM start to a 2pm start. I hope they can get both games in before dark. Does Elmhurst have lights?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 12:46:03 pm
I just noticed that Carthage is only hitting .296 as a team. It must be driving Augie crazy to watch that. I wonder when the last time they had a team that hit under .300 was....
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 04, 2006, 01:31:20 pm
Carthage just posted that the game will be played, but it has been moved back from a 1PM start to a 2pm start. I hope they can get both games in before dark. Does Elmhurst have lights?

That doesn't make much sense to me. I don't know how much of a difference one hour will make. Its not like its 85 and sunny. I know if it was a home game for Carthage, Augie would have had his players out there at 7 in the morning getting that thing ready to go (not to mention again that the field would've surely been tarped in the first place). Those who have played for or at Carthage in wet conditions know that if there is any way at all possible to get that game in, Augie will do it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 04, 2006, 08:05:04 pm
Anybody have any CCIW scores from today?

None of the websites have anything posted yet.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 04, 2006, 08:46:26 pm
per the Elmhurst website:

Game 1:  Carthage wins 19-4
Game 2:  Carthage wins 7-5
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 08:51:36 pm
per the Elmhurst website:

Game 1:  Carthage wins 19-4
Game 2:  Carthage wins 7-5

Thanks, Superfan! Looks like the Carthage bats woke up a bit today!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 04, 2006, 08:54:26 pm
Just spoke to IV...the Redmen improve to 5-0 in the CCIW! They won the opener 7-5 and the nightcap was a 19-4 rout! The Redmen batted around twice in the first inning and pushed 13 runs across the plate!

Nice!!!!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 04, 2006, 08:58:21 pm
Guess I had Game 1 and 2 flopped...oh well...who pitched for Carthage?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 04, 2006, 09:01:19 pm
Superfan...you never know with Augie! You could have the right order and scores!!

Didn't talk about the pitchers. He was too excited about the bats coming alive!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 04, 2006, 09:15:25 pm
From the Elmhurst website...

Jeff Livek earned the win for Carthage, throwing four innings and allowing three earned runs on six hits. Ryan Roufus worked three shutout innings in relief to earn the save.

Chris Krepline notched the win for Carthage, throwing five innings and allowing just one earned run on three hits. He struck out five in the process.

Carthage sent 18 men to the plate in the first inning while jumping out to a 13-0 lead. The Redmen  went up 18-0 after one and a half innings with five runs in the second.

The site had Red Men. The change is mine. I'm still not buying into the politically correct change since I know the original origin!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 11:30:47 pm
Millikin sweeps IWU on Tuesday...

Big Blue moves to 2-3 and IWU drops to 1-3.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 04, 2006, 11:31:12 pm
Augustana and Wheaton split today.

Game 1:  Wheaton 11    Augie 4

Game 2:  Augie 8  Wheaton 7

In Game 2, Matt Schref pitched 6 innings and gave up only one ER.  He picked up his first win of the season (1-0).

Looks like a rough day for Augie.  
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 04, 2006, 11:32:28 pm
Wow...IWU is in a deep hole right now...do not want to lose 2 to Millikin who lost 3 to North Park.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2006, 11:34:16 pm
Anybody have the updated CCIW standings? Is Carthage the only unbeaten left? We have not heard from NCC/NP today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 05, 2006, 12:48:05 am
North Park and North Central split today.  In the first game, the Vikings prevalied 9-4, while the Cardinals bounced back 8-2 in the nightcap.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 05, 2006, 01:09:26 am
North Park and North Central split today.  In the first game, the Vikings prevalied 9-4, while the Cardinals bounced back 8-2 in the nightcap.

Carthage      5-0
North Park    4-1
Augie            4-1
Wheaton      2-2
IWU              2-3
Millikin           2-3
N. Central     1-4
Elmhurst       0-5

There are some huge surprises in there. NPU @ 4-1(Great job)...IWU @ 2-3 versus Wheaton and Millikin... Elmhurst @ 0-5...

That makes Augustana @ Carthage a huge series this weekend. Either has a chance to really own the conference if NPU cannot keep it going. Elmhurst is in a must win situation this weekend vs. NPU. I have a feeling that the situation that unfolded with the Elmhurst coach over the last week has had a trickledown effect on the players.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 05, 2006, 01:19:52 am
per the Elmhurst website:

Game 1:  Carthage wins 19-4
Game 2:  Carthage wins 7-5

WOW! I hate to say it, but I think the Elmhurst coach is getting what he deserves. A man would call his players out to their face, not on a website. If you have a problem with the way things are going, talk to them one on one.

I also hate to say this: It looks like Carthage may run away with the CCIW if the roll this weekend. I do not see NPU staying this hot all season as they will have to play much tougher games in the weeks ahead.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 05, 2006, 01:51:20 am
I have to give North Central credit, as Justin Rezzuto pitched very well in the nightcap win for the Cardinals. But NPU really played a lackluster game -- four errors and a run-scoring balk led to the Vikings putting themselves away pretty early in that one.

The opener was much more indicative of how well the Park has been playing lately. NPU sprayed thirteen hits around the field, including the team's first two homers of the year (courtesy of Raymond Decatur and Vladimir Torres).

NPU takes a one-day break from CCIW play in order to face 9-9 Benedictine tomorrow afternoon at Holmgren Athletic Complex. It'll be interesting to see how the Vikings fare; Carthage and Wheaton both pounded the Bennies last week by scores of 11-1 and 8-1, respectively.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 05, 2006, 10:10:18 am
Just some thoughts on the Carthage/Elmhurst game after looking at the box score. Augie chose to play a lot of players who haven't seen a lot of time, even in the first game when it was close he had some guys in there who hadn't played much at all since their florida trip. That's what you gotta love. Even though it was a conference game, if someone is really starting to come along in practice, he will give them an opportunity for a few AB's here and there. The second game, he obviously completely cleared the bench which I believe shows some class. There are definately some coaches (not saying anyone in particular or even necessarily in the CCIW) that would keep in their starters and try to run the score up as much as possible to look good for everybody, including the 7 or 8 voters or however many there are for the polls. Should be a great 3 game set this weekend. It will be extremely tough for Carthage to sweep Augustana with the way they hit the ball, but with their pitching they have a shot. Anyone planning on coming up from Rock Island, its only supposed to be low to mid 40's right now Saturday so bundle up because by the lake 45 does not feel that warm. Sunday is supposed to get into the 50's.  8)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 05, 2006, 10:48:21 am
Lake Michigan water temps vary somewhat depending upon wind and wave action.  At the best, however, the surface temps right now are in the low 40s.  Dress warm.

A breeze off the lake can make it bone chilling for blocks inland.  Kenoshans typically cite 22nd Avenue as being the divide between lake effect and dominant air temps.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 05, 2006, 11:21:37 am
Lake Michigan water temps vary somewhat depending upon wind and wave action.  At the best, however, the surface temps right now are in the low 40s.  Dress warm.

A breeze off the lake can make it bone chilling for blocks inland.  Kenoshans typically cite 22nd Avenue as being the divide between lake effect and dominant air temps.

Only a true Kenosha veteran would know that. Carthage is always 15 degrees colder than the rest of Kenosha.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 05, 2006, 11:35:12 am
Oh yeah, by the way Dirty Dozen... so much for that DEEP PLAYOFF RUN you were so confident about before you even played 1/3 of your games, not to mention even 1 conference game. By the looks of it, those pitchers you called out on a CHATBOARD i'm sure aren't worried any longer about performing at their best with the fear of not wanting to disappoint their coach who cares about his players and their well-being so dearly!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 05, 2006, 12:24:07 pm
I have a funny feeling that this is the last season for Clark Jones at Elmhurst.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cokeaholic on April 05, 2006, 02:27:26 pm
North Park lost, bring back coach Vandenbranden!!!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 05, 2006, 03:31:25 pm
North Park lost, bring back coach Vandenbranden!!!!!

Why did Bosko leave North Park in the first place?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 05, 2006, 04:03:23 pm
At that time, North Park was the only place where faculty/staff salaries were lower than Carthage among CCIW schools.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 05, 2006, 04:19:30 pm
At that time, North Park was the only place where faculty/staff salaries were lower than Carthage among CCIW schools.

I would assume that Wheaton would be at the top????
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 05, 2006, 09:03:17 pm
IWU beats Wheaton 7-1 today.

Updated CCIW standings:
Carthage      5-0
North Park    4-1
Augie            4-1
IWU              2-3
Wheaton      2-3
Millikin           2-3
N. Central     1-4
Elmhurst       0-5
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 05, 2006, 10:06:46 pm
I believe IWU is only 2-3 but the rest looks good
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 05, 2006, 10:09:41 pm
One thing I have noticed is that CCIW regular season does not mean as much as it has in the past. Win the tourney and get a berth. I liked the old way where the point system carried into the postseason and rewarded a team for a great CCIW season instead of a weekend of solid baseball.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 05, 2006, 10:11:29 pm
Augie_superfan... thanks. I think you are right and I corrected it in my earlier post.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 06, 2006, 01:07:16 am
At that time, North Park was the only place where faculty/staff salaries were lower than Carthage among CCIW schools.

That's not why Bosko left North Park.

NPU lost to Benedictine today, 10-9.  The pitching really went south on the Vikings; Rich Jenchowski struggled in his first start of the year, and even ace reliever Bob Mensch faltered for the first time this season. However, the Vikings did show a lot of moxie in rallying from a 10-4 deficit in the eighth. When Pat Zarilla flied out to right to end the game, the tying run was on 2nd. It was encouraging to see the Vikes rally like that, even though it fell just short and even though Benedictine isn't exactly a world-beater of a baseball team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 06, 2006, 10:56:35 am
One thing I have noticed is that CCIW regular season does not mean as much as it has in the past. Win the tourney and get a berth. I liked the old way where the point system carried into the postseason and rewarded a team for a great CCIW season instead of a weekend of solid baseball.

Captain... I agree. Maybe wearing my Carthage colored glasses has something to do with that as the Redmen were usually at the top of the standings, but I am certain this will bring the CCIW in line with the rest of the conference tourneys.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: tjcummingsfan on April 06, 2006, 11:46:07 am
Not knowing the details, Bosko leaving North Park for Carthage for money reasons just doesn't make sense...  If you want more money, why go to the school second to the bottom regarding payroll.

I can't be the only one amazed that North Park is even being mentioned as a contender, albeit an amazing long-shot of one, for the CCIW race.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 06, 2006, 12:13:51 pm


NP will not leave... they are a founding member of the conference. NP will be back in the CCIW race very soon. With the exception of IWU and Carthage, everyone has had some down years in the CCIW over the past 10-15 years...

Very prophetic, huh?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 06, 2006, 03:51:54 pm
BigPoppa-
   I thought you were crazy to even suggest that NPU would make a dent in the CCIW in the near future and here they are knocking on the door already.
It looks like you know that you are talking about. If I could give you karma I would.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 06, 2006, 07:49:16 pm
No one said Bosko took the Carthage job for the money.  The casual observation about Carthage and North Park being at the bottom on faculty/staff salaries at that time was simply an attempt at what might be called wry humor.  A move from bottom to second from bottom would be foolish.

Incidentally, faculty/staff remuneration at Carthage has dramatically increased in the past decade and a half.  According to AAUP data and Chronicle of Higher Ed info, Carthage is well above the median for similar schools.  That is not to say, however, that Bosko brought Carthage average salary above the national median.

I refuse to use smiley faces, even if it may give rise to confusion.  Let the words speak.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 06, 2006, 08:14:24 pm
Professor... I love your dry sense of humor. I get it... maybe we are cut from the same mold.

I had many friends and teammates that took your classes, but I never had the pleasure myself. I was stuck taking the majority of my classes in Seibert Chapel with the amazing views of the of the baseball field from the classrooms. Somehow, I find it easier to blame my GPA on the field views rather than on my lack of attention to class.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 07, 2006, 07:10:43 am
And how often has your GPA been an issue now that your workplace offers a different view?

It's gratifying, incidentally, to see how your loyalty remains intact and your interest in Carthage high after a move to the far west.  There's quite a number of alums in both Californias--southern and northern.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 07, 2006, 11:30:17 am
Nothing but rain all day in kenosha so far. The infield is tarped, but the outfield may be a little wet tomorrow. Carthage just had a new drainage system put in last season so hopefully it works well and won't be too bad. Should be a great day of baseball tomorrow in kenosha between to solid ball clubs
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 07, 2006, 12:30:18 pm
And how often has your GPA been an issue now that your workplace offers a different view?

It's gratifying, incidentally, to see how your loyalty remains intact and your interest in Carthage high after a move to the far west.  There's quite a number of alums in both Californias--southern and northern.

I will bleed Redmen colors until I die... regardless of where I live. It is a special place to me. I met my best friends there, figured out who I truly was there, and fell in love with a dancer there who is now my wife. There is still nothing a walk on the Carthage campus on a crisp fall afternoon... though the campus is much improved since I attended.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 07, 2006, 12:33:26 pm
Nothing but rain all day in kenosha so far. The infield is tarped, but the outfield may be a little wet tomorrow. Carthage just had a new drainage system put in last season so hopefully it works well and won't be too bad. Should be a great day of baseball tomorrow in kenosha between to solid ball clubs

We always used to say if the ball got to the outfield, the pitcher threw it in the wrong spot. Wet outfields should be the least of worries(can you tell I was an infielder... now, a wet infield is cause for serious alarm).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bstar21 on April 07, 2006, 01:58:21 pm
I have seen Augie play a couple of times this year and they are very solid.  Yet they still dont have everyone hitting on their team yet.  Their catching has gotten alot better and their pitching has been dominant.  I see Carthage's pitching has been solid as well.  Who has the edge in this weekend matchup?
Title: IWU
Post by: TitanRailer on April 07, 2006, 02:06:12 pm
Tough week for the Titans.  There will be some weekend starting pitching changes moving towards youth.  Hopefully the young arms can produce some victories.  Or they can learn something from the Titan women, who are 16-2 and 6-0 in the CCIW.

Predictions for this weekends series (Greg - trust me, I will not pick NP to lose 3 this weekend)!!!

IWU over NCC 3-0 (IWU not happy, take it out on NCC, Titans score double digits in 2 games)

Augie over Carthage 2-1 (Carthage bats stall, no team scores more than 5 in a game all weekend)

Wheaton over Millikin 2-1 (Too close to call)

North Park over Elmhurst 2-1 (Elmhurst players believing they can go deep into the postseason has transferred to the city, Clark submits resume at Warrenville High, but it is quickly rejected)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 07, 2006, 07:21:17 pm
IWU over NCC 2-1

Carthage wins the series 2-1 versus Augie this weekend.

I will call the Wheaton/Millikin seires at 1-1-1... don't really know much about either team yet.

I am going to have to take NPU 2-1 this weekend.



This is a classic post. If there were a posting Hall of Fame, it would surely be in there.
"North Park over Elmhurst 2-1 (Elmhurst players believing they can go deep into the postseason has transferred to the city, Clark submits resume at Warrenville High, but it is quickly rejected)"
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on April 08, 2006, 12:54:08 am
I'm not sure if I agree that EC will drop two against NP.  I am pretty sure that Ec will have a tough year.  They have lost a lot over the last year-- their coaching staff has largely disappeared, losing Joe and Denny Niezgoda, Earl Hansen, and (I think) Mike Palmer.  Also, Kevin Brandush, who would have been their best hitter, and a possible All-American, has left the team.  Brian Mucha, another senior with a good bat, has been injured and will likely be done.  Finally, their field and gym are a major disadvantage for recruiting talent in the area.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 08, 2006, 06:37:00 pm
Carthage took both games from Augustana today: 3-2 and 3-1. Great pitching from both teams obviously. Augustana only had 1 earned run in 16 innings of ball, that has to say something about the job Jacob Husing and Scott Evosovich did on the mound for the Redmen.  Great turn out at Carthage today, just a great atmosphere for division 3 college baseball. Olson will go tomorrow for Carthage as they attempt to go for the sweep.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 08, 2006, 07:06:16 pm
Looks like Augie really needs to win tomorrow.  Anyone got a recap of what happened in that first game?  The Carthage hotline made it sound like Carthage scored twice on a play where Augie had 3 errors?  Was that true or was it that they just had 3 errors in the game?

Also, REDMANFAN, Carthage only had 1 earned run today as well so that shows what the Augie pitchers did too ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 08, 2006, 09:05:48 pm
IWU beat NCC twice today; 6-0 and 7-4

Elmhurst beat NPU twice; 10-3 and 9-6

Wheaton beats Millikin 2 out of 3; 4-5, 6-5, 11-10

Therefore, the updated standings are:

Carthage     7-0
Augustana   4-3
IWU             4-3
North Park   4-3
Wheaton     4-4
Millikin          3-5
Elmhurst      2-5
NCC             1-6

Please correct me if I messed something up
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 08, 2006, 10:19:48 pm
Augie Superfan,

That play was insane that Carthage scored 2 runs on. It was pretty much a swinging bunt, the 1st basemen threw it away, then the catcher miss played the throw home for the first run, the ball rolled to the back stop allowing the hitter Barker to score. Moses Barker hit a  home run later in the day though to almost dead center with the wind blowing in. The previous inning, Carthage had the bases loaded with no outs and there 1,2,3 hitters up and failed to score, they were very fortunate to win the first game, but hey, a win is a win. Also, Augie pitchers were great as well. I just mentioned how impressive the Carthers pitchers were considering the offensive numbers Augustana has put up so far.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 09, 2006, 12:00:28 am
Thanks for the info
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 09, 2006, 11:27:28 am
Very, very impressive! If the Redmen can win playing small ball maybe there IS hope for the Cubs!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 09, 2006, 02:30:43 pm
Augie's bats definately woke up today. They are beating Carthage 8-1 right now in the 6th inning. Sloppy play for Carthage defensively, it looks like their winning streak is going to end at 9.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 09, 2006, 05:12:53 pm
Augie beat Carthage 17-1 today...we could've used some of those runs yesterday.  Augie's #2 pitcher, Andrew Setter, threw a complete game 8 hitter.  He moves to 5-0 on the year.  Lots of good hitting from everyone today.  That is a big win to stay only 2 games back of Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 09, 2006, 05:28:40 pm
IWU won 13-7 over NCC today.

NPU beat Elmhurst 4-2 today


Updated Standings: (including next week's conference games)

Carthage    7-1     vs. Elmhurst (1)    vs. IWU (3)
Augustana  5-3    @ Wheaton (1)      vs. NPU (3)
IWU           5-3     vs. Millikin (1)      @ Carthage (3)
North Park  5-3     @ NCC (1)           @ Augie (3)
Wheaton    4-4     vs. Augie (1)        vs. NCC (1)   @ NCC (2)
Millikin        3-5     @ IWU (1)           vs. Elmhurst (3)
Elmhurst     2-6     @ Carthage (1)     @ Millikin (3)
NCC           1-7     vs. NPU (1)          @ Wheaton (1)   vs. Wheaton (2)


Should be a very telling week next week with the huge IWU/Carthage series and we will see how Augie will do against a much improved NPU squad.  Also, a big week for Wheaton against a struggling NCC team.


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 09, 2006, 07:13:58 pm
The CCIW is turning out to be a very good race... as expected. Next weekend will determine the fate of many of the teams. Those off to a slow start must win to keep pace and those off to good starts can solidify playoff spots.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 10, 2006, 03:57:08 am
I refuse to use smiley faces, even if it may give rise to confusion.  Let the words speak.

 ::)

NPU had nowhere to go but up this year, but I think that the Vikings have surprised everyone with just how competitive they've been thus far. Nevertheless, they're carved out a 5-3 record against the three teams at the bottom of the conference. They're definitely going to have to step it up a notch against the traditional powers if they want to be something more than an early-spring curiosity in the CCIW race.
Title: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 10, 2006, 09:27:34 am
I am not sure what is better, an IWU sweep this weekend or the Cubs sweep over the Cardinals.  Yes I do, Go Cubs!!

Not really looking forward to the Carthage series right now.  IWU can't win a 2-1 game right now, and Carthage pitching is too good for an 8-5 game that IWU can win. 

I still like my pre-season picks of Carthage, Augie, IWU and NP in the conference tourney.  Unfortunately, I agree with Greg, NP still has the upper tier of the conference to play.  Will be a tough road for them.  Unfortunately, IWU has only played Wheaton, NCC, and Millikin.  Tough road ahead for the Titans as well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 10, 2006, 11:10:46 am

NPU had nowhere to go but up this year, but I think that the Vikings have surprised everyone with just how competitive they've been thus far. Nevertheless, they're carved out a 5-3 record against the three teams at the bottom of the conference. They're definitely going to have to step it up a notch against the traditional powers if they want to be something more than an early-spring curiosity in the CCIW race.

One advantage is it has given confidence to a young struggling team. Early season wins are worth a little bit more in my opinion. NPU is hanging tough and even though the schedule will get tougher, they have proved that they are vastly improved and able to make some noise in the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 11, 2006, 10:02:09 am
Knowing North Park still has to play IWU (who I think is still a very dangerous team), Augie, and Carthage, what are some honest opinions about whether or not you think they will make the conference tournament. I think it will end up being between them and Elmhurst. Personally, I hope the Vikings find a way. Now that the conference tourney gives an automatic bid to the postseason (i'm still pretty sure that's what they've gone to), as long as you finish in the top 4 you have a good as chance as anyone to get hot over one weekend and make the playoffs.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 11, 2006, 12:09:19 pm
NPU is in a tough spot as they still have the three big dogs to play, but the Vikings are showing that they can compete this year. Funny things happen between the lines. I also think it will come down to NPU and Elmhurst for the final spot in the CCIW tourney.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 11, 2006, 04:25:10 pm
Here is how I see the CCIW:

1. Carthage- great pitching, always fighting for titles

2. IWU- starting to come around

3. Augustana- could flip-flop with #2

4. Elmhurst- Coming around, players know they will have new coach next year

5. NPU- can steal wins here and there to make a run at the #4 spot, scrappy team

6. North Central- terrible, but tradition will push them into 6th

7. Millikin- will fall off as season wears on

8. Wheaton- soccer school
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 11, 2006, 04:32:33 pm
Captain... I like your assessment. A bit harsh on some schools, but it is your opinion.  I hope that NPU can get back to their form of the early 90s when their catcher, Danny Casas, was one of the most feared hitters in the CCIW... and he took all day to get into the box. It drove me nuts.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 11, 2006, 08:52:23 pm
Knowing North Park still has to play IWU (who I think is still a very dangerous team), Augie, and Carthage, what are some honest opinions about whether or not you think they will make the conference tournament. I think it will end up being between them and Elmhurst. Personally, I hope the Vikings find a way. Now that the conference tourney gives an automatic bid to the postseason (i'm still pretty sure that's what they've gone to), as long as you finish in the top 4 you have a good as chance as anyone to get hot over one weekend and make the playoffs.
The top-four teams, by CCIW winning percentage, qualify for the CCIW Baseball Tournament.  The four qualifying teams accrue one championship point for each regular-season CCIW victory and additional championship points based on the following tournament records:  3-0 record (5 points), 4-1 or 3-1 record (4 points), 3-2 record (3 points), 2-2 record (2 points), 1-2 record (1 point) and an 0-2 record (0 points).  Teams that do not qualify for the tournament do not receive championship points for regular-season conference wins.  If a tie occurs in total points after the tournament, then the team that finished highest in the tournament will be the conference champion.   If only the first day of the tournament is played, due to weather, then each tournament win is worth one point, and the sole 2-0 team shall be awarded a bonus point.  The CCIW champion receives the league's automatic qualifier to the NCAA Division III Baseball Championship.

In the past, wasn't it the regular season champ that got the automatic berth? I know "we" went three of the four years that my favorite Redman played. But we were the regular season champs and won the tournament.

So what I'm reading from this, it's now the tournament champ and not the regular season champ?
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 11, 2006, 09:00:44 pm
Knowing North Park still has to play IWU (who I think is still a very dangerous team), Augie, and Carthage, what are some honest opinions about whether or not you think they will make the conference tournament. I think it will end up being between them and Elmhurst. Personally, I hope the Vikings find a way. Now that the conference tourney gives an automatic bid to the postseason (i'm still pretty sure that's what they've gone to), as long as you finish in the top 4 you have a good as chance as anyone to get hot over one weekend and make the playoffs.
The top-four teams, by CCIW winning percentage, qualify for the CCIW Baseball Tournament.  The four qualifying teams accrue one championship point for each regular-season CCIW victory and additional championship points based on the following tournament records:  3-0 record (5 points), 4-1 or 3-1 record (4 points), 3-2 record (3 points), 2-2 record (2 points), 1-2 record (1 point) and an 0-2 record (0 points).  Teams that do not qualify for the tournament do not receive championship points for regular-season conference wins.  If a tie occurs in total points after the tournament, then the team that finished highest in the tournament will be the conference champion.   If only the first day of the tournament is played, due to weather, then each tournament win is worth one point, and the sole 2-0 team shall be awarded a bonus point.  The CCIW champion receives the league's automatic qualifier to the NCAA Division III Baseball Championship.

In the past, wasn't it the regular season champ that got the automatic berth? I know "we" went three of the four years that my favorite Redman played. But we were the regular season champs and won the tournament.

So what I'm reading from this, it's now the tournament champ and not the regular season champ?
 


Irish... you are correct. New format rewards only the winner of the CCIW tourney. Winner gets in and the losers sit by the phone waiting for a call to let them know if they got a bid or not. There are 11 more bids(53 total) this year so a strong showing in your regular season will have a large bearing on your selection to the dance.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 11, 2006, 09:04:39 pm
They actually have it listed two different ways on the Carthage page... look at the press releases and CCIW tourney info for the updated version of the format. The one previously quoted is still listed, but replaced by the updated one below:

CCIW Championship Format Changed for 2006:  Beginning in 2006, the CCIW’s regular-season champion wins the conference title and has the option of playing host to the CCIW Baseball Tournament on either its home field or at another location.  The top-four teams, by CCIW winning percentage, qualify for the CCIW Baseball Tournament.  The winner of the double-elimination tournament will receive the league’s automatic qualifier to the NCAA Division III Baseball Championship.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 12, 2006, 11:50:22 am
Should be an interesting game in Kenosha today between Carthage and Elmhurst. It is extremely windy, and any ball hit in the air will be an adventure.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 12, 2006, 12:11:00 pm
Should be an interesting game in Kenosha today between Carthage and Elmhurst. It is extremely windy, and any ball hit in the air will be an adventure.

A perfect day for Carthage baseball! I always felt bad for visiting outfielders at Carthage. The winds in left were very different from the winds in right... aka The Jet Stream.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 12, 2006, 02:13:55 pm
IWU beat Concordia yesterday 9-6.  Typical non-conference midweek game.  Four IWU pitchers used, the starter was pulled so he could attend a night class.  That is DIII baseball for you. 

Very windy day here as IWU hosts Millikin this afternoon. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 12, 2006, 03:39:54 pm
IWU beat Concordia yesterday 9-6.  Typical non-conference midweek game.  Four IWU pitchers used, the starter was pulled so he could attend a night class.  That is DIII baseball for you. 

Very windy day here as IWU hosts Millikin this afternoon. 

That's why I love D3 Baseball... it is the only level where "student-athlete" really means anything.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 12, 2006, 06:33:08 pm
Carthage 15 Elmhurst 5. Called in 7th for 10 run rule.

I believe Livek was the winner.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 12, 2006, 07:50:25 pm
Irish, you're right, Livek was the winner. Carthage pounded out 20 hits, and most importantly, Chris Sadjak finally returned to the redmen lineup after being out all season. He set a Carthage single game record by getting plunked 3 times at the plate. Good win for Carthage, big series Friday and Saturday against IWU
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Longtooth on April 12, 2006, 08:15:13 pm
who's up next?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 12, 2006, 08:31:25 pm
Well Augie lost 5-2 today vs. Wheaton.  They had 3 unearned runs which really hurt.  Looks like the Wheaton pitcher, Matt Price, had a great game.  He threw a complete game 5 hitter and struck out 10 while walking only 1.  These are the games Augie must win.  They need to turn it around here real quick.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 12, 2006, 08:36:57 pm
North Park beat NCC 18-11 today.

IWU beat Millikin 21-2


Updated Standings:


Carthage     8-1
IWU             6-3
North Park   6-3
Wheaton     5-4
Augie           5-4
Millikin          3-6
Elmhurst      2-7
NCC             1-8
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 12, 2006, 10:14:57 pm
IWU @ Carthage is going to be a huge series. If Carthage can take two of three, they can open a three game lead on IWU and NPU. We'll find out this weekend what North Park is made of as they face Augustana. It should be a great weekend for the CCIW... the top four teams are going head-to-head.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 12, 2006, 10:26:23 pm
BP,

Agree with you totally.  If Carthage wins 2 (or 3) of the 3, the race is virtually over.  But if IWU wins 2 or 3 of the 3, we've got a whole new ball game.

Go IWU!!  Even aside from being a Titan, just for the sake of keeping this interesting, win at least 2 of the 3 games this weekend!

Augie, Wheaton, and NP should all be rooting for you, too!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 12, 2006, 10:32:36 pm

Augie, Wheaton, and NP should all be rooting for you, too!

Actually, I think that they should all be rooting for Carthage to run away from IWU this weekend. It would drop IWU down quite a bit and put Augie and Wheaton closer to them(if not ahead) in the the standings. Just my thoughts, but they seem valid to me.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 12, 2006, 11:11:55 pm
Well, with the conference tourney changes this year, it doesn't make anyone's situation quite as dire as it may have been in the past at this point.  You wouldn't want to go into the conference tourney more than about 3 wins behind 1st place to have a chance to win the automatic bid.  Now, you could easily be 6-8 games back and make the conference tourney and then just string a few wins together on the final weekend to get to the postseason. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 12, 2006, 11:19:43 pm
BP,

Seems to me the difference is whether you are gunning for the regular-season title, or simply a place in the tourney.

Title: root for IWU to bring Carthage back to the pack.

Place in the tourney: root for Carthage; maybe you can beat out IWU for 4th.

For those with modest aspirations, option 2 seems reasonable.  For the true competitors, I would think option 1 is the way to go.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 13, 2006, 05:48:07 am
What I liked about Wednesday's 18-11 slugfest win for NPU over North Central in Naperville was the fact that the Vikings pounded the Cardinals pitcher who had done such a good job of shutting them down last week, Justin Rezzuto. That shows me that the Vikings hitters are observing and adjusting, which is a great sign. NPU's #3 hitter, Brady Josephson, had a big day in particular, going 4-6 with a homer and six RBIs. The Park needs his bat to stay hot.

I was at the Cubs game on Wednesday, and my friend (who is also an NPU alumnus) and I got a huge kick out of the fact that Greg Maddux was making the Reds look stupid with pitches that would be considered slow even by CCIW standards. Mad Dog got Junior Griffey to swing for strike three at a pitch at eye level that the upper-deck message board indicated was 68 mph, and my friend and I almost fell out of our seats laughing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 13, 2006, 08:40:33 am
Quote
NPU's #3 hitter, Brady Josephson, had a big day in particular, going 4-6 with a homer and six RBIs. 

Actually, Josephson drove in five -- four on a tremendous grand slam in the third to put the Vikes ahead for good.  The box score on the NCC website also lists Kevin Polka as the winning pitcher, which is also incorrect: he started the game and pitched 2 2/3 innings, so he could not have qualified for the win.  The win was awarded to Brett Cooper, his first, and deservedly so, after 5 1/3 innings of relief.  He's been a real warrior for the Vikings over the years and has run into some bad luck in several close contests.  Everyone on the team is happy that he was able to get a W.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 13, 2006, 09:12:52 am
BP,

Seems to me the difference is whether you are gunning for the regular-season title, or simply a place in the tourney.

Title: root for IWU to bring Carthage back to the pack.

Place in the tourney: root for Carthage; maybe you can beat out IWU for 4th.

For those with modest aspirations, option 2 seems reasonable.  For the true competitors, I would think option 1 is the way to go.

Ypsi... you make a good point. There could be two different goals coming into play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 13, 2006, 10:40:17 am
IWU did beat Millikin 21-2 yesterday.  Three separate innings they batted around in the order.  Pounded 14 hits.  It is the 7th straight game they had a double digit hit total.  Unfortunately, that string will come to an end this weekend at Carthage.

I agree with Poppa, the rest of the league must root for Carthage.  Winning the regular season title is only for pride.  The conference tournament is what it is all about, as that is the automatic qualifier.  Ypsi, you know from hoops season, the most important thing is to make the tournament!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 13, 2006, 11:00:23 am
I'm happy its a home series for Carthage, but I gotta admit that those drunk fans at IWU drinking on the roof of that house right down the 3rd base line and having a microphone and announcing things is absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 13, 2006, 11:34:48 am
I'm happy its a home series for Carthage, but I gotta admit that those drunk fans at IWU drinking on the roof of that house right down the 3rd base line and having a microphone and announcing things is absolutely hilarious.

There is nothing like D3 baseball for that reason alone. I loved playing on the raod in the CCIW simply because of the hilarious things that fans said to us. North Central fans always rode me for 6 hours, even if we were pounding them. I gotta respect that type of devotion to a team. IWU fans were not bad either, but I had more fun listening to Martell complain about how lucky Carthage always seemed to get when playing them. Sometimes, playing 3B while he coached third base for a DH was worse than listening to NCC's fans all day.

I still think that Carthage fans are toughest on the opponents. Nothing a like a little frat party in left field to get the opposing outfielders off their game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 13, 2006, 11:53:15 am
I'm happy its a home series for Carthage, but I gotta admit that those drunk fans at IWU drinking on the roof of that house right down the 3rd base line and having a microphone and announcing things is absolutely hilarious.

There is nothing like D3 baseball for that reason alone. I loved playing on the raod in the CCIW simply because of the hilarious things that fans said to us. North Central fans always rode me for 6 hours, even if we were pounding them. I gotta respect that type of devotion to a team. IWU fans were not bad either, but I had more fun listening to Martell complain about how lucky Carthage always seemed to get when playing them. Sometimes, playing 3B while he coached third base for a DH was worse than listening to NCC's fans all day.

I still think that Carthage fans are toughest on the opponents. Nothing a like a little frat party in left field to get the opposing outfielders off their game.


Coach Martel always thought if he constantly talked to the third basemen it would get him off his game, maybe cause an error or something. 

I was never fortunate enough to play at the new IWU field.  I had to endure the football turned baseball field in the spring.  Of course, I still have memories of Carthage and one Gavin Winfield who hit a HR to right off me that landed on top of the old Fred Young Fieldhouse.

We had to play against guys like Flees, Beyer, Blansette, Atkins, etc, that were just gritty and winners.  I think that is one reason why Coach Martel dislikes Carthage.  They always found a way to win against us.  We always knew we were in for a battle.     
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 13, 2006, 12:39:52 pm

Coach Martel always thought if he constantly talked to the third basemen it would get him off his game, maybe cause an error or something. 

I was never fortunate enough to play at the new IWU field.  I had to endure the football turned baseball field in the spring.  Of course, I still have memories of Carthage and one Gavin Winfield who hit a HR to right off me that landed on top of the old Fred Young Fieldhouse.

We had to play against guys like Flees, Beyer, Blansette, Atkins, etc, that were just gritty and winners.  I think that is one reason why Coach Martel dislikes Carthage.  They always found a way to win against us.  We always knew we were in for a battle.     

I was there when Winfield hit that homerun... it was amazing! He could flat out hit... I was fontunate enough to hit between Beyer and Winfield for two years. I gotta a lot of good pitches to hit. I also remember Glen Braun(National POY in '99) hitting a ball out there as a freshmen and Martell whined about it for five innings to me..." The kid just got lucky.."

Augie has a way of breaking down players and rebuilding them in a gritty, mentally tough sort of way. He will not accept anything less from his players and it shows on the field.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 13, 2006, 12:57:04 pm
I'm almost positive Carthage has both tomorrow and  monday off for easter break. If that's true, hopefully some of the real fans decide to stay and get rowdy tomorrow during the double header.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 13, 2006, 01:39:50 pm
I'm almost positive Carthage has both tomorrow and  monday off for easter break. If that's true, hopefully some of the real fans decide to stay and get rowdy tomorrow during the double header.

Since it is a holiday weekend, I am sure that many parents will be off as well. I would expect a good crowd of parents this weekend and fewer Carthgage Crazies than normal. Either way, it will be a good atmosphere for baseball. How is the Kenosha(aka... the mistake by the lake) weather going to be?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 13, 2006, 02:05:16 pm
Friday: Mostly sunny with a high of 77 and 10 mph winds
Saturday: High of 64, sunny, with 13 mph winds

Couldn't ask for much better weather than that at Carthage!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 13, 2006, 02:16:29 pm
That's actually warmer than it is in SoCal today!!!!!

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 13, 2006, 03:44:28 pm
Hey, is it OK if I cheer for Carthage simply because I want to cheer for Carthage?

I like to be consistent.  For example, I will typically cheer for whomever happens to be playing the GB Packers.  Or, in baseball, I will always be in the St. Louis Cardinal stands.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 13, 2006, 03:48:59 pm
Yes, Carthage does take an Easter break of Good Friday and the Monday following.  However, this usually means students begin the exit Tuesday afternoon and return a week from the next Thursday.  A class schedule in which classes will often be Mon-Tue and Thur-Fri will contribute to such absenteeism.

A residual left by the aborted 4-1-4. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 13, 2006, 04:16:08 pm
Hey, is it OK if I cheer for Carthage simply because I want to cheer for Carthage?

I like to be consistent.  For example, I will typically cheer for whomever happens to be playing the GB Packers.  Or, in baseball, I will always be in the St. Louis Cardinal stands.

Though the Packers statement hurts, I am glad to know that you are in favor Carthage this weekend. We will take all that we can get.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 13, 2006, 08:19:00 pm
IWU did beat Millikin 21-2 yesterday.  Three separate innings they batted around in the order.  Pounded 14 hits.  It is the 7th straight game they had a double digit hit total.  Unfortunately, that string will come to an end this weekend at Carthage.

I agree with Poppa, the rest of the league must root for Carthage.  Winning the regular season title is only for pride.  The conference tournament is what it is all about, as that is the automatic qualifier.  Ypsi, you know from hoops season, the most important thing is to make the tournament!

Maybe!

I suspect Augie will remember their unexpected CCIW title (seems like EVERYONE not on their team already had crowned IWU) this year, long after the sting of losing to UPS in the Sweet Sixteen has faded.

But baseball may be different.  Since we didn't have this chat board before (and baseball is not one of my TOP sports), I'm not up to speed - does the CCIW generally get ONLY the AQ in?  Is d3 as dominated by sun-belt teams as d1?

If the answer to the first question is 'yes', I can see how making the tourney could be even more important than winning the title.  On the other hand, if the answer to the second question is also 'yes', perhaps winning the conference title is more memorable than getting into a tourney you have a near-zero chance of winning.  I'll yield to the players (or former players) as to which is the MORE significant goal.  But the goals ARE incompatible this weekend.  If conference title - root for IWU to rein in Carthage; if conference tourney - root for Cathage to put a big hurt on the Titans.

And, yes, emiritusprof, it is fine to root for Carthage just because you want to - I'll root for IWU for the same reason! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 14, 2006, 12:53:05 am
Usually the CCIW has only gotten one team, two on rare years, into the NCAAs. That will certainly change with the addition of a few more bids this year. I think the CCIW should get two bids if things progress as they are right now.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on April 14, 2006, 08:32:36 am
Mr Yipsi-  D3 is dominated by northern teams, northern being north of the Mason Dixon line.  Part of that is because the state of FLA has zero D3 teams and there aren't very many in other southern states although Emory in GA is currently ranked #1.  Of the current top 30 teams I count 5 as "warm weater" teams.  VA has 2, not sure if they count as warm weather.  While a CCIW team has yet to finish first or second they usually have a team at the D3 World Series.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 14, 2006, 09:21:52 am
I think the CCIW got two teams in a couple of years ago. The Green Wienies got the automatic bid and Carthage got an at-large bid. I think that was in 2004.

Martel brings the dislike upon himself. I remember at the regional in 2000 that was played at IWU. I was at the concession stand and was not wearing anything that said I was from Carthage. He was talking to one of his assistants and  said "I hope Carthage get the  -hit kicked out of them." Very supportive of the conference representative!

We were down for the series in 2003 and were partying in the right field "patio" with some ex-Titan ball players. Adam Palmer was one of them. Great kids and not many of them were very fond of Martel. They didn't like Carthage but had the utmost respect for the players. They all said they would have liked to had a chance to play for Augie because it seemed like it would be worth a few laughs playing for him.
Title: Weekend predictions
Post by: TitanRailer on April 14, 2006, 11:50:38 am
Here are my predictions for the weekend games:

Carthage over IWU 2-1 (hurts to say that, I just think Carthage pitching is too good.  IWU pitchers may need a shutout to get a split today).

Augie over NPU 3-0 (Augie bats just too much for NP)

Millikin over Elmhurst 2-1

NCC over Wheaton 2-1

How is the weather in Kenosha?  Tornados and thunderstorms in Bloomington.


Coach Martel is good for Division III baseball.  He truly understands that the student-athlete's most important responsibility is the student.  Not sure how the other coaches handle the non-conference midweek road games, but he will rarely take his top pitchers so they won't miss class (plus, he wouldn't throw them anyway). 

As for his dislike of Carthage, I just think most athletes have that one team they hate to root for.  I doubt too many Cubs fans and Yankees fans were truly rooting for the White Sox and Red Sox the past two years.  I know I wasn't rooting for the Sox last year as a Cubs fan.  I will quote Dale Earnhardt mentoring a young Jeff Gordon, who was upset that fans were booing him, "Hey, Kid, if they are booing you it means two things, they are noticing you and you must be doing something right!!"  I think it is just a respect for the winning Carthage program that he envies, just sometimes comes out a different way.

Plus, if I know the Carthage players, they enjoy being "hated" or cheered against.  I know I enjoyed players/fans rooting against me, it was fun!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 14, 2006, 11:55:18 am
We were down for the series in 2003 and were partying in the right field "patio" with some ex-Titan ball players. Adam Palmer was one of them. Great kids and not many of them were very fond of Martel. They didn't like Carthage but had the utmost respect for the players. They all said they would have liked to had a chance to play for Augie because it seemed like it would be worth a few laughs playing for him.

It's even funnier when you are on the "inside" of the program. The best things that Augie says are usually under his breath in the dugout... or at practice.  I am not sure that he thinks he is funny... he just says what he is thinking and does not shy away from anything. It usually comes out as something classic.
Title: Re: Weekend predictions
Post by: BigPoppa on April 14, 2006, 12:02:04 pm

Plus, if I know the Carthage players, they enjoy being "hated" or cheered against.  I know I enjoyed players/fans rooting against me, it was fun!

We thrived on it... the best way to beat Carthage is to shut your mouth and not piss anyone off. Once one guys finds a reason to get angry at an opposing player, they are like sharks who smell blood and all rally around to get a piece of the action. Carthage rarely loses an emotional game, they lose games that they do not have an emotional interest in.

Let sleeping dogs lie... Augie used to love it when other teams chirped at us, he knew we would respond by pounding them.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 14, 2006, 12:08:35 pm
Carthage over IWU 2-1: Redmen run to a 3 game lead.

Augie over NPU 2-1: NPU gets it first real test

Elmhurst over Millikin 2-1: Bluejays start to make their run to the #4 spot... whether or not they reach it is a different story.

NCC over Wheaton 2-1: Bottom of the conference tightens up.

This weekend will shake quite a few things out in the CCIW as teams will settle into their conference positions
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 14, 2006, 12:10:15 pm
Titan Trailer,

I think your opinion is right on. Any true competitor, whether its a Carthage player or any player, loves being in a hostile environment. It just gives the players so much adrenaline and that much more motivation to compete their hardest.  Last year's 3 game set at IWU is a perfect example, no to mention the tournament game against them at their place. Regardless of the outcome, it was a very special thing to be a part of. Every single inning of those 4 games was unbelievably intense. I gotta go now though boys!! Time to go have some fun today at the double header by the lake. It was cloudy this morning, but the sun is starting to creep out, and just checked the weather and it is supposed to be partly sunny all day with a high of 78 degrees!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 14, 2006, 01:26:47 pm
I think you Carthage guys have mentioned a Sports Information number one can call with in-game score updates.  Care to share that number so I can call for updates??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 14, 2006, 01:39:39 pm
I think you Carthage guys have mentioned a Sports Information number one can call with in-game score updates.  Care to share that number so I can call for updates??

Here you go:

(262) 551-5388
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 14, 2006, 01:45:58 pm
Here we go with another great weekend. My predictions:

Carthage over IWU 2-1: Carthage locks up the regular season title.

Augie over NPU 3-0: North Park comes back to reality

Millikin over Elmhurst 2-1: Clark Jones begins sending resumes to other schools

Wheaton over NCC 2-1: "You called down the thunder. Well, now you got it." NCC spirals to its rock-bottom.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 14, 2006, 04:50:28 pm
Well, game one goes to IWU 7-2.  Husing gave up a three run bomb to RC and a solo shot.  Carthage couldn't handle the slow off-speed crap the IWU pitcher was tossing up there.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 14, 2006, 06:03:41 pm
Carthage comes back with a 13-3 game in the nightcap.

Have to say, happy with a split.  Hopefully the Titans can win tomorrow!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 14, 2006, 06:53:23 pm
Does this mean Carthage is ahead -- 15 to 10?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 14, 2006, 07:18:29 pm
Anybody have any other scores from the CCIW today? Nothing is posted yet.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 14, 2006, 07:52:11 pm
Augustana beats North Park 3-2 and 9-1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 14, 2006, 10:06:13 pm
Millikin won 13-9 and 6-0 over Elmhurst
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 14, 2006, 10:37:58 pm
Millikin won 13-9 and 6-0 over Elmhurst


And let the coaching interviews begin at Elmhurst.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 14, 2006, 10:49:28 pm

We had to play against guys like Flees, Beyer, Blansette, Atkins, etc, that were just gritty and winners.  I think that is one reason why Coach Martel dislikes Carthage.  They always found a way to win against us.  We always knew we were in for a battle.     
That is almost a who's who of Carthage baseball. I know all of those guys well.

Shorty Flees- great baseball name, great baseball player, even better person.

Mark Beyer- possibly Augie's all-time most hated player (one time Beyer got punched in practice and Augie pretended not to notice), but probably the best hitter to ever put on a Carthage uniform. Led the nation in HRs in 1996. Ultimate hitter in the clutch.

Shannon Blansette- all over the Carthage record books, unbelievable intensity and competitiveness. Once punched Beyer in a hotel after losing to him in chess. No one you would rather have as a teammate.

Len Atkins- aka, "Geeker." Probably the ugliest guy to ever play in the CCIW, but he was a scrappy guy that always found a way to beat you.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on April 14, 2006, 10:52:08 pm
Millikin won 13-9 and 6-0 over Elmhurst


And let the coaching interviews begin at Elmhurst.

It's about time...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 15, 2006, 03:51:02 pm
Carthage beat IWU today 6-4. Olson threw all 9 innings for the win. The ump was terrible calling balls and strikes for both teams and was very inconsistent. Martel got tossed in the top of the 9th to all the Carthage fans' delight! Big win for Carthage today to build a 3 game lead over IWU
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 15, 2006, 05:31:30 pm
Augustana beat North Park 8-3 today.  That was a huge 3 game sweep of North Park.

Millikin beat Elmhurst 9-7 today
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 16, 2006, 11:44:57 pm
Augustana beat North Park 8-3 today.  That was a huge 3 game sweep of North Park.

Millikin beat Elmhurst 9-7 today

Elmhurst is in trouble! Anybody have the updated standings?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 17, 2006, 12:09:25 am
Per the CCIW website, as of 4-15:
 Carthage 10-2
 Augie   8-4
 IWU    7-5
 Millikin  6-6
 Wheaton 6-6
 North Park 6-6
 North Central 3-9
 Elmhurst   2-10

Looks like 6 teams still very alive for the four tourney spots, with Carthage definitely in the driver's seat.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 01:13:52 am
Per the CCIW website, as of 4-15:
 Carthage 10-2
 Augie   8-4
 IWU    7-5
 Millikin  6-6
 Wheaton 6-6
 North Park 6-6
 North Central 3-9
 Elmhurst   2-10

Looks like 6 teams still very alive for the four tourney spots, with Carthage definitely in the driver's seat.

With the way Carthage is playing, I would think that they would be a favorite for a Pool C bid if things do not go smoothly in the conference tourney. Let's hope it does not come to that and they win the CCIW tourney and the bid outright.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 17, 2006, 01:24:04 am
The Blue Jays have a strong offense, they have reserves that can come off the bench and get the job done.  They also have a great pitching staff that could be the best in the CCIW, and amazing coaching staff.  I know with coach Jones in the driver seat, he will take his ball club deep into the post season this year. :)

My how things have changed in only a few weeks.

I doubt that a 2-10 CCIW record is putting Elmhurst in a position to even make the post-season, let alone make a deep run into it.
Has anyone heard about rumblings at Elmhurst?
Title: Re: Weekend predictions
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 17, 2006, 03:48:14 am
This past weekend's series in Rock Island proves that, to no one's surprise, NPU still has a way to go on the diamond to get up there among the CCIW's elite. But while I'm disappointed in the performance of the Park, I'm not terribly worried by it. Rome wasn't built in a day. The Vikings have already won more CCIW games this year than they have in the past three years combined, and there's still a lot of season left. I just want to see the NPU baseball program keep improving. With only two seniors on the team, the future looks bright. I'm convinced now that Luke Johnson has the Park moving in the right direction.

As for his dislike of Carthage, I just think most athletes have that one team they hate to root for.  I doubt too many Cubs fans and Yankees fans were truly rooting for the White Sox and Red Sox the past two years.  I know I wasn't rooting for the Sox last year as a Cubs fan.

For me and just about every Cubs fan I know, the one team we hate isn't the White Sox. It's the Cardinals. They're the team the Cubs have been playing a dozen and a half times a year for over a century; the team with whom the Cubs share a league and a division; and the team whose fans loathe and are loathed by Cubs fans due to the close proximity of the two fan bases and the fact that the fans of each are commonly seen at the ballpark of the other. The White Sox? Most of the hatred between the city's two teams runs one way. A huge percentage of White Sox fans despise the Cubs and their fan base, but that attitude is not nearly reciprocated to that percentage or degree by Cubs fans. Most Cubs fans would just as soon ignore the White Sox apart from the six games of the Crosstown Classic, but the in-your-face hatred coming from the South Siders -- and, yes, their team's World Series victory -- makes that increasingly difficult.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 17, 2006, 06:20:57 am
I'm a life-long Cards fan and do not "hate" the Cubs.  What continues to bewilder me is the record the Cubs always post against the Cardinals.

It's an old rivalry, but it's largely a .500 situation over some 100 years when the Cubs and Cards play each other.  This is remarkable when you consider their respective overall records--and all the Cards championships.

Are there any two other teams in baseball with essentially equal records against each other, while one (Cardinals) is statistically superior overall within the league and in series play?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 17, 2006, 08:28:15 am
Prof, what are the records of the Yankees and Red Sox and the records of the Dodgers and the Giants?

Those are the only 2 series that come to my mind.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 17, 2006, 09:55:22 am
Ralph -- I don't know.  And, I was following the lazy man's route by posting a question here.  I don't have baseball reference works here at home, and I didn't try a net search. 

You are probably correct -- I'm pretty sure the Yankees have a better overall record than their record against the Red Sox.  And, it's a pretty safe bet the Dodgers are overall much better than against the Giants.

But, for as long as I can remember (c. 1940s) the Cubs play the Cards tough no matter what the standings.  And, the Cards hold the best National League World Series record.

And, even tho it's about .500 overall, I think the Cubs hold a slight edge of 8 to 12 games over the Cards.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 17, 2006, 02:09:36 pm
Carthage has 3 home non-conference games this week against Carroll, U. of chicago, and today against Marian. I know these games mean nothing when it comes to conference play, but I think it is still important for Carthage to win these games, especially if they do not win the CCIW tournament this year. In non-conference games, quite a few guys will get the chance to play that don't see much time in conference play (and I believe that is the right thing to do.) However, its easy to play laid back against these teams you are "supposed" to beat, and the last year or so Carthage has done that a few times. Hopefully Augie can say something to these guys to let them know even though these aren't conference games, they are still vitally important to the season, and that goes for any other CCIW team that still may have a legit shot at an at large bid come playoff time
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 03:00:38 pm
You are right on, Redmenfan... even though these are non-conference games this week, they are still IN-REGION games which are more important to the selection committee. Even if Carthage gets nosed out for the conference tourney title, a solid in-region record should boost them into the NCAA post season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 04:38:49 pm
Carthage moves to 14-4 in the crucial in-region record category. Wins this week versus non-conference opponents will really boost that record.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on April 17, 2006, 04:48:24 pm
\ I know with coach Jones in the driver seat, he will take his ball club deep into the post season this year. :)

My how things have changed in only a few weeks.

I doubt that a 2-10 CCIW record is putting Elmhurst in a position to even make the post-season, let alone make a deep run into it.
Has anyone heard about rumblings at Elmhurst?

Elmhurst likely wont even sneak out of the cellar this season-- with injuries and the loss of many good assistant coaches, they probably wont do any better.  In '04 they had the most talented team in the CCIW go 0-2 barbeque in the tournament. 
We probably wont hear anything from inside the team, as the team has now probably gotten told not to spend any time on discussion boards. (See "The Dirty Dozen Incident")
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 04:52:15 pm
Cooler... which coaches left the program?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 17, 2006, 04:54:45 pm
IWU also has three this week at Monmouth, hosting Rockford and Wash U.  I think IWU's current in-region record is 10-7 so they really need to win the conference tourney to have a shot (unless they can win out).  I am not certain if the 200 mile rule exists for baseball as it does in basketball.  Anyone?  
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 04:57:49 pm
IWU also has three this week at Monmouth, hosting Rockford and Wash U.  I think IWU's current in-region record is 10-7 so they really need to win the conference tourney to have a shot (unless they can win out).  I am not certain if the 200 mile rule exists for baseball as it does in basketball.  Anyone?  

200 mile rule does exist... anygame versus a team less than 200 miles away is an in-region game regardless of which region the team is in.

EX: If IWU(Central) traveled to Edgewood(Midwest) it would still be an in-region game for both teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 05:00:34 pm
Update:

After 4 innings... Carthage 4, Marian 1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on April 17, 2006, 06:07:34 pm
Cooler... which coaches left the program?

Everyone but Jones...
Earl Hansen, assistant pitching coach
Mike Palmer, Pitching and strength coach
Denny Niezgoda, Infielders
Joe Niezgoda, OF and hitting
All great coaches, Joe especially.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 17, 2006, 06:23:55 pm
Carthage beat Marian today 9-2. The majority of the starters played, but not all. Then a few more subs got in at the end of the game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 06:34:55 pm
Carthage in-region record moves to a very nice 15-4.

Anybody have the other CCIW teams in-region records? I am curious to know how they all stack up.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 17, 2006, 07:25:45 pm
To me, it looks like Augustana is 15-6 in-region.  I could definitely be wrong though because I just counted the games that I thought would be in-region.  I didn't verify anything. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 17, 2006, 08:50:35 pm
To me, it looks like Augustana is 15-6 in-region.  I could definitely be wrong though because I just counted the games that I thought would be in-region.  I didn't verify anything. 

15-6 is still a pretty good in-region record. There will certainly be at least one team from the CCIW deserving of an at-large bid if they do not in the tourney.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 18, 2006, 02:17:40 am
And, even tho it's about .500 overall, I think the Cubs hold a slight edge of 8 to 12 games over the Cards.

The Cubs actually have a broader lead in the I-55 Series than that. From 1892, when the Cardinals came over from the old American Association to join the Cubs (who were called the Chicago Colts at the time) in the National League, through last week's Cubs sweep in Wrigley Field, the Cubs own a 1,121-1,059 advantage over their archrivals. That's a percentage split of about 51.4% to 48.6% in Chicago's favor.

With regard to major league baseball's two other great rivalries, the New York Yankees are well out in front of the Boston Red Sox. From the time the two teams first hooked up in the American League's inaugural season of 1901 (when the Yanks were actually the league's original Baltimore Orioles -- they moved to NYC in 1903 -- and the Boston franchise was known as the Americans) through the end of last season, the Bronx Bombers have enjoyed a 1,060-879 advantage over the denizens of Fenway Park. That's a 54.7% winning percentage for the Yanks, which is fairly large for an all-time series that has had that many games played.

I couldn't find the nineteenth-century results for the Giants-Dodgers series. The two teams began playing each other when the Dodgers moved over from the AA to the National League in 1890. But since 1901 (including this past weekend's three-game series at Dodger Stadium) the Giants hold a slight 1,050-1,024 edge over the Dodgers. That works out to 50.6% Giants, 49.4% Dodgers.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2006, 07:54:42 am
And, even tho it's about .500 overall, I think the Cubs hold a slight edge of 8 to 12 games over the Cards.

The Cubs actually have a broader lead in the I-55 Series than that. From 1892, when the Cardinals came over from the old American Association to join the Cubs (who were called the Chicago Colts at the time) in the National League, through last week's Cubs sweep in Wrigley Field, the Cubs own a 1,121-1,059 advantage over their archrivals. That's a percentage split of about 51.4% to 48.6% in Chicago's favor.

With regard to major league baseball's two other great rivalries, the New York Yankees are well out in front of the Boston Red Sox. From the time the two teams first hooked up in the American League's inaugural season of 1901 (when the Yanks were actually the league's original Baltimore Orioles -- they moved to NYC in 1903 -- and the Boston franchise was known as the Americans) through the end of last season, the Bronx Bombers have enjoyed a 1,060-879 advantage over the denizens of Fenway Park. That's a 54.7% winning percentage for the Yanks, which is fairly large for an all-time series that has had that many games played.

I couldn't find the nineteenth-century results for the Giants-Dodgers series. The two teams began playing each other when the Dodgers moved over from the AA to the National League in 1890. But since 1901 (including this past weekend's three-game series at Dodger Stadium) the Giants hold a slight 1,050-1,024 edge over the Dodgers. That works out to 50.6% Giants, 49.4% Dodgers.

The Giants have been the Giants since 1885.

The Trolley-Dodgers (the American Association team from 1884-88) were the Brooklyn Bridegrooms from 1890 to 1898, the Superbas from 1899-1910 and were the Brooklyn Robins from 1914-1931.

As for that other New York franchise, they were the New York Highlanders from 1903-12.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on April 18, 2006, 09:07:40 am
Cooler...did they all leave since the season started or prior to the season starting? If it's since the season started, Clark might as well start packing his bags!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 18, 2006, 02:41:23 pm
New ABCA poll was just released:

http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll41806.pdf  (http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll41806.pdf)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 18, 2006, 02:43:34 pm
Carthage moves up to #8 in the ABCA poll and #1 in the Central Region.

Augie drops out of the overall poll and is at #6 in-region
IWU is at #7 in-region


Central (IA) is at #16 overall and #2 in-region
Aurora is at #22 overall and #3 in-region

Carthage could get a very nice in-region win on May 2nd at Aurora to help the "just-in-case" cause should things not go swimmingly in the CCIW tourney.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 18, 2006, 03:18:09 pm
Carthage has set themselves up nicely for now. Jumping to #8 will only help their case for an at-large bid should the unmentionable happen.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 18, 2006, 03:27:55 pm
With Augustana's top 3 pitchers and the way they swing the bat, they are without a doubt a top 25 team in the country. Take a school like Ripon...I'm not trying to knock them, but look at the teams they play in their conference. I wouldn't be surprised if Elmhurst this year could finish in the top 2 in that conference. If Carthage is the 8th best team right now, and Augie was a few plays away from taking 2 out of 3 from them, how could they fall from 14 (i believe that's what they were) to not even receiving votes. By the way, congrats to the Redmen and keep taking care of business these next to non-conference games!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 18, 2006, 05:42:56 pm
With Augustana's top 3 pitchers and the way they swing the bat, they are without a doubt a top 25 team in the country. Take a school like Ripon...I'm not trying to knock them, but look at the teams they play in their conference. I wouldn't be surprised if Elmhurst this year could finish in the top 2 in that conference. If Carthage is the 8th best team right now, and Augie was a few plays away from taking 2 out of 3 from them, how could they fall from 14 (i believe that's what they were) to not even receiving votes. By the way, congrats to the Redmen and keep taking care of business these next to non-conference games!

I agree... Augie should have been somewhere in the top 25 teams. They dropped 17 runs on a previously unhittable Carthage pitching staff. I generally think that the top 2 or 3 in the CCIW would win most other conferences. The NIIC is usually dominated by Aurora, IIAC is usually dominated by Wartburg. The SLIAC is a below average conference, their winner would  finish in the middle of the CCIW.

The CCIW is a solid conference from top to bottom and should be rewarded as such. I think the CCIW should have had three team in the rankings... Carthage, Augustana and IWU. It will all sort itself out soon enough.
Title: Clark Jones
Post by: clarkjoneshater on April 19, 2006, 12:14:48 am
OK, I just have one question; when is the athletic director over at Elmhurst College going to stop being everyones friend, and fire Clark Jones?

That is all from the biggest ClarkJonesHater.
Title: Clark Jones
Post by: clarkjoneshater on April 19, 2006, 12:29:08 am
A Preview of what is to come:

Word on the street says Clark Jones made his team run for 40 min after their game today in which they lost 9-1.  Afterword, Clark Jones took the team back to campus without a meal, which was previously budgeted for.  Gosh Clark, where does all that money go for every meal skipped? Dakota's baseball equipment?

That is all from the Biggest ClarkJonesHater
Title: Re: Clark Jones
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 19, 2006, 12:40:04 am
A Preview of what is to come:

Word on the street says Clark Jones made his team run for 40 min after their game today in which they lost 9-1.  Afterword, Clark Jones took the team back to campus without a meal, which was previously budgeted for.  Gosh Clark, where does all that money go for every meal skipped? Dakota's baseball equipment?

That is all from the Biggest ClarkJonesHater

Change your name or do not post again. You are in violation of the Terms of Service.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 19, 2006, 09:58:45 am
With Augustana's top 3 pitchers and the way they swing the bat, they are without a doubt a top 25 team in the country. Take a school like Ripon...I'm not trying to knock them, but look at the teams they play in their conference. I wouldn't be surprised if Elmhurst this year could finish in the top 2 in that conference. If Carthage is the 8th best team right now, and Augie was a few plays away from taking 2 out of 3 from them, how could they fall from 14 (i believe that's what they were) to not even receiving votes. By the way, congrats to the Redmen and keep taking care of business these next to non-conference games!

I agree... Augie should have been somewhere in the top 25 teams. They dropped 17 runs on a previously unhittable Carthage pitching staff. I generally think that the top 2 or 3 in the CCIW would win most other conferences. The NIIC is usually dominated by Aurora, IIAC is usually dominated by Wartburg. The SLIAC is a below average conference, their winner would  finish in the middle of the CCIW.

The CCIW is a solid conference from top to bottom and should be rewarded as such. I think the CCIW should have had three team in the rankings... Carthage, Augustana and IWU. It will all sort itself out soon enough.


The ABCA poll means almost nothing.  If basketball is any indication, it's the regional polls that mean the most.  IWU and Augie both have bad losses in-region that have hurt them.  Augie lost 2 to Wheaton and 1 Rockford.  IWU has bad losses to Millikin, Wheaton, and Coe.  Yes, they both have wins against Carthage, but 17-1 is the same as 1-0 in the formula right??

Whether or not the CCIW gets two teams into the dance this season will come down to the CCIW tourney and the Augie/IWU series this weekend.  If Augie sweeps that series, they will move up in the regional rankings.  Augie could also pick up a quality win versus Central (ahead of them in-region) next Monday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 19, 2006, 10:21:18 am
IWU won big over Monmouth last night, 23-5.  Freshman Rob Cummings set a school record with 6 hits in the game, including a HR, double, and six RBI's.  More amazing, 2 other players also had 6 RBI's in the game.  Have to think that 3 different players with 6 RBI's each in one game must be a record of some sort.

IWU hosts Rockford this evening then hosts a  huge game against Wash U tomorrow.  Of course, lets not forget Augie this weekend.  If IWU can get past Wash U and take 2 of 3 vs Augie, it could help Pool C chances.  Plus, with only NP and Elmhurst left to play in conference, it should (on paper) produce 6 in-region wins.

Pool C may come down to May 8th when IWU hosts Aurora.  I still think IWU needs to win the conference tourney to get in, but if they run the table in region then lose 2 in tourney, might be hard to leave them out!
Title: Re: Clark Jones
Post by: BigPoppa on April 19, 2006, 10:34:11 am
A Preview of what is to come:

Word on the street says Clark Jones made his team run for 40 min after their game today in which they lost 9-1.  Afterword, Clark Jones took the team back to campus without a meal, which was previously budgeted for.  Gosh Clark, where does all that money go for every meal skipped? Dakota's baseball equipment?

That is all from the Biggest ClarkJonesHater

I understand you are frustrated, but it is clear that you are inside the Elmhurst program and to call out Clark Jones is simply sophomoric. If you are really that fed up with the program, bide your time for a few weeks and transfer.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 19, 2006, 07:13:56 pm
Carthage defeats former CCIW member Carroll 13-3.  No details as of yet.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 20, 2006, 01:40:49 am
NPU bounced back from Tuesday's ugly 13-3 loss at the University of Chicago to record a 6-5 win at home over CURF on Wednesday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 20, 2006, 08:51:11 am
IWU wins 3-2 over Rockford.  Big game tonight against 29-5 Wash U.  Incredibly, 2 of those 5 losses were home games against Elmhurst.  Not sure how that happened?  Must have been when Coach Jones was coaching and not posting...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 20, 2006, 10:05:46 am
The return of Chris Sadjak has helped out the Redmen as of late. In just 6 games, Sadjak is hitting over .300 and has 8 RBI's. Not bad for a guy who didn't touch a bat for about 2 months and then took BP for a day and was back in the line-up. Augie's quote in the paper was "All I know is our line-up looks a whole lot better with him in the middle of it."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 20, 2006, 10:23:33 am
Name the only team in the UAA that is undefeated in 3 games versus CCIW competition this season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on April 20, 2006, 10:58:09 am
Name the only team in the UAA that is undefeated in 3 games versus CCIW competition this season.

University of Chicago-- though they have Carthage coming up and Elmhurst, who has beaten Chicago soundly in their last three meetings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 20, 2006, 11:50:50 am
Name the only team in the UAA that is undefeated in 3 games versus CCIW competition this season.

University of Chicago-- though they have Carthage coming up and Elmhurst, who has beaten Chicago soundly in their last three meetings.


DING DING DING!!!

The only reason I pointed this out was that I hope Carthage doesn't take them lightly on Friday.  Even at 10-13, they still have some quality wins over CCIW level competition.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 21, 2006, 02:38:18 pm
Sunny and 70 in Kenosha, Carthage players probably feel like they are in florida again! I remember it was around this time last year when we were playing aurora and it was freezing and it hailed during the game on two separate occasions.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 21, 2006, 03:15:30 pm
Titans lost 9-3 to Wash U last night.  They were up 3-0 after 6, but Wash scored 3 in the 7th, 1 in the 8th and 5 in the 9th.  Pretty much eliminates IWU from Pool C bid.

CCIW predictions this weekend

IWU over Augie 2-1
Carthage over NP 3-0
Millikin over NCC 3-0
Wheaton over Elmhurst 2-1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 21, 2006, 05:18:32 pm
IWU's best chance(other than winning the tourney) is to have Carthage win the tourney and they finish second. I think Carthage is in either way, If Augie wins the tourney, Carthage gets in as a Pool C. They also need Wash U. to win the SLIAC tourney and ensure that only one SLIAC team gets in.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 21, 2006, 06:53:08 pm
Carthage beat Chicago today 17-7. Backup short stop Seth Romano hit a 2 run home run to end the game in the 8th. Carthage was up 11-0 early on, and chicago battled back to make it an 11-7 game before Carthage got the bats going again. Great job by the Redmen to win these 3 non-conference games, compared to last year when we lost one to Marian and one to Chicago completely eliminating our chances of getting an at large bid last year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 21, 2006, 08:31:07 pm
Poppa...Wash U is in the UAA and they are a Pool B team.  I don't know how the Pool B scenario looks but hopefully they will get one of those so they don't become a Pool C team. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 21, 2006, 09:54:24 pm
Poppa...Wash U is in the UAA and they are a Pool B team.  I don't know how the Pool B scenario looks but hopefully they will get one of those so they don't become a Pool C team. 

Thanks... my bad!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 22, 2006, 03:12:13 pm
Carthage beat North Park today 11-1 after 7 innings because of the mercy rule. Couple errors by NP that Carthage really made them pay for. Evosovich started for Carthage and gave up one run in the first inning and then settled down nicely to remain unbeaten on the year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 22, 2006, 10:46:17 pm
Augie and IWU split today's games:

Game 1:  IWU 3, Augie 2

Two great pitching performances today from Augie's Kevin Kuntz (8.2 IP, 2 ER, 7 HA, 8 K) and IWU's Dave Dobosz (9 IP, 1 ER, 6 HA).  IWU won the game in the bottom of the ninth on a game-winning single by someone.

Game 2:  Augie 6, IWU 1

Augie scored 4 runs in the first inning.  Augie's Andrew Setter pitched a complete game and picked up his 7th win of the season.  His line:  7 IP, 1 ER, 6 HA, 0 BB, 3 K

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 22, 2006, 10:56:51 pm
Just thought I'd post these stats of a few CCIW pitchers that are having amazing years (I didn't look up every team so sorry if I missed someone):


Evosevich (Carthage)

7 starts, 6 CG, 0.72 ERA, 50 IP, 39 HA (only 3 extra base hits), 7 BB, 33 K

Dobosz (IWU)

6 starts, 4 CG, 1.27 ERA, 49.2 IP, 42 HA, 11 BB, 22 K

Setter (Augustana)

7 starts, 5 CG, 1.71 ERA, 58 IP, 52 HA, 14 BB, 51 K

Kuntz (Augustana)

8 starts, 4 CG, 1.38 ERA, 52.1 IP, 32 HA (2 extra base hits), 22 BB, 36 K
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 22, 2006, 11:08:47 pm
Weekend update:

Carthage up on NPU  (1-0)
IWU and Augie split   (1-1)
Elmhurst takes Wheaton  (2-1)
Millikin and NCC split   (1-1)

Updated standings after Sat. games:

Carthage          11-2
Augustana        9-5
IWU                 8-6
Millikin              7-7
Wheaton          7-8
North Park        6-7
North Central     4-10
Elmhurst           4-11
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 23, 2006, 07:17:27 pm
Looks like a crazy game in Rock Island today.

Augustana 12, IWU 11  (10 innings)

IWU scored 2 runs in the top of the tenth and then Augustana came back and scored 3 in the bottom of the 10th to win it.  Adam Cosentino delivered the game-winning base hit with 2 outs in the bottom of the 10th.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 23, 2006, 07:21:30 pm
Today's results:

Augie 12  IWU 11
Millikin 8   NCC 7
Carthage 11  NPU 3
Carthage 10  NPU 0

Updated Standings: (w/ remaining conference opponents)

Carthage          13-2            Wheaton & Millikin
Augustana        10-5            Millikin & North Central
Millikin              8-7             Augustana & Carthage
IWU                 8-7             North Park & Elmhurst
Wheaton          7-8             Carthage & North Park
North Park        6-9             IWU & Wheaton
North Central     4-11           Elmhurst & Augustana
Elmhurst           4-11           North Central & IWU
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 23, 2006, 09:05:38 pm
Carthage won both games today, 11-3, and 10-0 in 7 innings because of the slaughter rule. That's all the details I know as of now
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 24, 2006, 10:14:29 am
NPU got a taste of what it's going to take to compete with the big boys this past weekend. The Vikings just don't have the personnel to challenge a team like Carthage. Right now 2007 is looking promising, but 2006 is turning out to be a learning experience.

As I said the other day, Rome wasn't built in a day -- and neither will the NPU baseball program. But I'm still encouraged by what Luke Johnson has done thus far. This team is light-years beyond the disaster of the last few seasons at the Park.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2006, 11:14:02 am
NPU got a taste of what it's going to take to compete with the big boys this past weekend. The Vikings just don't have the personnel to challenge a team like Carthage. Right now 2007 is looking promising, but 2006 is turning out to be a learning experience.

As I said the other day, Rome wasn't built in a day -- and neither will the NPU baseball program. But I'm still encouraged by what Luke Johnson has done thus far. This team is light-years beyond the disaster of the last few seasons at the Park.

Agreed... NPU is moving in the right direction and 2007 is looking very good for the Vikings. A full year of recruiting will also have a great impact on the program. They still have a shot to sneak into that last spot, but it is going to be tough and they will need some help. Millikin has two tough weekend left with IWU and Augie so I expect them to drop off a bit. If NPU sweeps Wheaton and takes 1 or 2 from IWU... you never know!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 24, 2006, 11:38:54 am
Does anyone know the dimensions of the fence at North Park? I don't remember from last year. It was also neat for a lot of the Carthage fans to watch Ozzie Guillen's son play for North Park. Some who were White Sox fans loved it. Most of them who are cubs fans were giving him an ear full after he made an error during the game at Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 24, 2006, 12:22:10 pm
I don't know the dimensions, but if anyone does it's our occasional "NPU insider" poster, Mr. B.

I wear my Cubs jacket everywhere during the spring, including Vikings baseball games. I've received a couple of negative comments from NPU people who have the "don't dis Oney, his dad's the man and the connection is great for the Park" mentality, but I don't care. I'm not dissing anybody, and I doubt that either Ozzie or Oney cares. Besides, I'm a North Sider who is an alumnus of the North Side's D3 school, and I root for the North Side's professional baseball club. I'll be damned if I ever feel compelled to forego wearing a Cubs jacket on the NPU campus, or anywhere north of Madison Street for that matter.

And I certainly have no problem rooting for Oney Guillen, as long as he's wearing blue and gold.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2006, 12:46:10 pm
Carthage and Augustana are both looking good for at least a Pool C bid right now. I think if one wins the conference tourney, the other will still get a bid. If IWU wins it, only one will get a bid.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 24, 2006, 12:58:58 pm
I don't know the dimensions, but if anyone does it's our occasional "NPU insider" poster, Mr. B.

I wear my Cubs jacket everywhere during the spring, including Vikings baseball games. I've received a couple of negative comments from NPU people who have the "don't dis Oney, his dad's the man and the connection is great for the Park" mentality, but I don't care. I'm not dissing anybody, and I doubt that either Ozzie or Oney cares. Besides, I'm a North Sider who is an alumnus of the North Side's D3 school, and I root for the North Side's professional baseball club. I'll be damned if I ever feel compelled to forego wearing a Cubs jacket on the NPU campus, or anywhere north of Madison Street for that matter.

And I certainly have no problem rooting for Oney Guillen, as long as he's wearing blue and gold.

Well good, there is no way you should feel bad for wearing a cubs jacket to a NP game because their short stop is the coach for the White Sox. Anyone who would give you a dirty look for that isn't worth paying attention to anyway. I wear my brewers gear sometimes around Carthage, and the whole darn school is from illinois!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2006, 01:20:44 pm

Well good, there is no way you should feel bad for wearing a cubs jacket to a NP game because their short stop is the coach for the White Sox. Anyone who would give you a dirty look for that isn't worth paying attention to anyway. I wear my brewers gear sometimes around Carthage, and the whole darn school is from illinois!

I feel your pain, Redmenfan... 1982 was a long time ago wasn't it?

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 24, 2006, 01:24:46 pm
Yes it was a long time ago, I wasn't even born yet!! Yesterday's game at Miller Park wasn't very fun at all, but I did get Carlos Lee to wave at me.  ;D  Actually, the crew were A.L. champs in 87, but you're right BP, that is still a long long time ago. Any big non conference games this week? Carthage has Aurora which is obviously a big game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 24, 2006, 01:27:37 pm
Sorry about that, Carthage doesn't play Aurora until next week. They play Wheaton this weekend and a double header at Lakeland Sunday. They have nothing during the week this week. Augie will most likely give the guys a day or 2 of to get away from it all and just relax
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2006, 01:45:16 pm
Carthage/Aurora game will probably have a huge impact on the seedings for the regional. Does/Did Aurora play any other CCIW teams this year?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on April 24, 2006, 04:07:47 pm
The Bluejays beat Aurora 8-6 last week.  The good Lord only knows how...

That aside, I think that NPU, with Johnson (and I heard Brad Groth) coaching, can definately make a little noise in the conference in the next couple years.  The dimensions of that park give them to huge draw to bring in good hitters, especially lefties.  The only problem would be to get somebody to decide they want to pitch there.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 24, 2006, 04:09:37 pm
The NPU fences have got to be atleast 425 down the left field line, 450 to left center, 400 to center(?), then right field gets progressively shorter and the outfield fence/football blechers are definitely reachable...maybe 375 to right or so.  These are all just estimates from being there one time last year but just try to imagine playing on a football field and hitting from the corner of one endzone with the foul lines being the football sideline and the back of the endzone.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 24, 2006, 04:14:19 pm
Augustana has a huge game tonight vs. Central of Iowa (22-7, 9-1 and 1st place in the IIAC)...this is practically a must win in my opinion for Pool C's sake.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 24, 2006, 04:15:51 pm
Augustana has a huge game tonight vs. Central of Iowa (22-7, 9-1 and 1st place in the IIAC)...this is practically a must win in my opinion for Pool C's sake.

That is a huge Non-Conference game for Augie. A loss may not eliminate them from a Pool C, but a win would certainly push them closer to a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 24, 2006, 04:36:59 pm
If NP's fences are really that deep, that would be an absolute bomb. I thought I remember right field being a pretty short distance. Carthage is 335 down the lines, and 400 to center, which are pretty standard dimensions. Most fields are 315-330 down the line from what remember. Good luck to Augie today against Central Iowa.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 24, 2006, 06:26:03 pm
Yes it was a long time ago, I wasn't even born yet!! Yesterday's game at Miller Park wasn't very fun at all, but I did get Carlos Lee to wave at me.  ;D  Actually, the crew were A.L. champs in 87, but you're right BP, that is still a long long time ago. Any big non conference games this week? Carthage has Aurora which is obviously a big game.



Huh??  They started the season 13-0 and failed to make the playoffs that season, finishing 91-71, 7 games behind Detroit in the East.  Minnesota played the Tigers in the AL finals 4 games to 1.  Gary Gaetti was the MVP.  St. Louis beat San Francisco 4 games to 3.  Jeff Leonard of San Fran was the MVP (don't see the losing team withthe MVP much anymore).  The Twins won their first world title beating the Cards in 7 games...

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: NCC Fan on April 24, 2006, 08:39:38 pm
Obviously not to many people have been to a NPU game this year. They have a retractable fence, since their softball team plays there too, which is around 320-330 ft. Not the 375+ ft mentioned before.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 24, 2006, 08:45:44 pm
Obviously not to many people have been to a NPU game this year. They have a retractable fence, since their softball team plays there too, which is around 320-330 ft. Not the 375+ ft mentioned before.

Exactly why I said my estimates were based on being there last year....I'm glad they changed that left field situation b/c that was just crazy last year
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 24, 2006, 08:54:52 pm
Obviously not to many people have been to a NPU game this year. They have a retractable fence, since their softball team plays there too, which is around 320-330 ft. Not the 375+ ft mentioned before.

NCC Fan, what's with the attitude? He asked a simple question and you jumped on him like he was an idiot. Not all of us are fortunate enough to coach at our alma mater the year after we leave the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 24, 2006, 10:26:08 pm
What is with coaches/assistant coaches of last place teams talking on the message board?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 25, 2006, 09:44:15 am
The NPU fences have got to be atleast 425 down the left field line, 450 to left center, 400 to center(?), then right field gets progressively shorter and the outfield fence/football blechers are definitely reachable...maybe 375 to right or so.  These are all just estimates from being there one time last year but just try to imagine playing on a football field and hitting from the corner of one endzone with the foul lines being the football sideline and the back of the endzone.

The baseball diamond has never been aligned with the football field's sideline and end zone at NPU, not under the former configuration and not under the new Holmgren Athletic Complex dimensions. The foul lines aren't lined up anywhere near the football sideline and the back of the end zone. The baseball infield, in fact, is so far to the left (west) of the football field that the only portion of the infield that is also a part of the gridiron is about two or three feet of the outer edge of the second-base dirt cutout. NPU has hosted football games in which none of the players from either team gets any infield dirt on them at all.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cokeaholic on April 25, 2006, 03:41:47 pm
The left field fence at npu is much different than last year, but right field remains the same.  Last year left field was way out there and im pretty sure there werent any homers hit out to left over the fence.  This year is a different story where the retractable fence was brought in to a much closer distance, and there have been a few go out to left.  Unfortunatly right field is short to where almost routine fly balls have carried into the first row for a homerun.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on April 25, 2006, 04:47:23 pm
The left field fence at npu is much different than last year, but right field remains the same.  Last year left field was way out there and im pretty sure there werent any homers hit out to left over the fence.  This year is a different story where the retractable fence was brought in to a much closer distance, and there have been a few go out to left.  Unfortunatly right field is short to where almost routine fly balls have carried into the first row for a homerun.

Last season Matt Jackson of Elmhurst hit the upper right hand side of the building.  The wind was blowing, but an impressive shot nonetheless.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 25, 2006, 06:16:30 pm
The NPU fences have got to be atleast 425 down the left field line, 450 to left center, 400 to center(?), then right field gets progressively shorter and the outfield fence/football blechers are definitely reachable...maybe 375 to right or so.  These are all just estimates from being there one time last year but just try to imagine playing on a football field and hitting from the corner of one endzone with the foul lines being the football sideline and the back of the endzone.

The baseball diamond has never been aligned with the football field's sideline and end zone at NPU, not under the former configuration and not under the new Holmgren Athletic Complex dimensions. The foul lines aren't lined up anywhere near the football sideline and the back of the end zone. The baseball infield, in fact, is so far to the left (west) of the football field that the only portion of the infield that is also a part of the gridiron is about two or three feet of the outer edge of the second-base dirt cutout. NPU has hosted football games in which none of the players from either team gets any infield dirt on them at all.

Sorry Greg...I thought I was making it clear that all my things were just estimates on being there last year...I was just trying to give an idea to someone who had obviously never seen the field.  I wasn't saying that these were the exact dimensions and I was just trying to write a description so someone could quickly imagine it in their head without having to read a novel to do so.  I'm sorry that I miss represented the NPU athletic complex...my bad.  Next time I go to a field, I will bring my cartography/survery equipment so I can accurately make a scale map of the complex for anyone interested in the future ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 25, 2006, 06:20:01 pm
On a lighter note....

Augustana won a huge game last night versus #16 Central of Iowa.  They won 11-8 and had a huge 9 run 5th inning.  Andrew Gwost pitched a complete game giving up 6 hits, and 4 walks while striking out 9.  Augustana had 6 errors which led to 6 unearned runs on the night.  That is a major win for Augie when looking at the regional rankings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 25, 2006, 08:15:39 pm
I think that Augie, barring any huge setbacks, just played themselves into at least a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 25, 2006, 09:21:55 pm
I was just checking the www.ncaasports.com website to look for those NCAA regional rankings and the front page story caught my eye.  Not sure if others already knew this but some Aurora pitcher, Chapple, threw back to back no-hitters....that is some pretty crazy stuff
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cokeaholic on April 25, 2006, 11:32:29 pm

Last season Matt Jackson of Elmhurst hit the upper right hand side of the building.  The wind was blowing, but an impressive shot nonetheless.
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yes he did but like you said the wind was blowing, and it was to center over the regular fence not over the retractable fence which is another good 40 feet back.  But i agree that a long with a few others to right that game were hit a  long way.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 26, 2006, 09:01:16 am
I'm sorry that I miss represented the NPU athletic complex...my bad.  Next time I go to a field, I will bring my cartography/survery equipment so I can accurately make a scale map of the complex for anyone interested in the future ;D

You jest, but I actually went onto Google Maps to post a URL that would give everyone a great aerial view of NPU's athletic complex so that they could see the baseball/football/softball layout for themselves. Unfortunately, the satellite photos of Chicago that Google Maps use appear to date back to 2002 (judging by the building stock), so it shows the pre-Holmgren layout.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 26, 2006, 11:49:54 am
I'm sorry that I miss represented the NPU athletic complex...my bad.  Next time I go to a field, I will bring my cartography/survery equipment so I can accurately make a scale map of the complex for anyone interested in the future ;D

You jest, but I actually went onto Google Maps to post a URL that would give everyone a great aerial view of NPU's athletic complex so that they could see the baseball/football/softball layout for themselves. Unfortunately, the satellite photos of Chicago that Google Maps use appear to date back to 2002 (judging by the building stock), so it shows the pre-Holmgren layout.

Yeah, I actually tried to look up the same thing to "refresh" my memory of the complex
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 26, 2006, 12:00:15 pm
That Google Maps feature sure is handy.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 26, 2006, 12:08:53 pm
Augustana beat Loras 15-1 last night...chalk up another regional win for the Vikings.  I think they stand at about 21-7 in region right now.

Matt Schref moved to 3-1 on the year with the win.  Augie scored 10 runs in the 3rd inning.   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 26, 2006, 12:37:19 pm
Nine runs in an inning, and then ten the next day in an inning, don't see that too often. I also believe Carthage and Augustana have put themselves in great position up to this point for an at large bid if they do not win the conference tournament. Does anyone know where the conference tourney is this year? Is it at a predetermined sight or whoever has the best conference record prior to the tournament?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 26, 2006, 02:22:10 pm
I believe with the changes of the automatic bid going to the tourney win, they also changed that the tourney will be at the regular season champs' place.  So...looks like it'll be up in Kenosha barring a collapse.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 26, 2006, 07:57:46 pm
I believe with the changes of the automatic bid going to the tourney win, they also changed that the tourney will be at the regular season champs' place.  So...looks like it'll be up in Kenosha barring a collapse.

The winner of the CCIW regular season is allowed to play the tourney at a field of their choice. I cannot imagine a scenario where the winner would not want to host the games.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 27, 2006, 08:20:15 am
North Park shut out Rockford yesterday up in the Forest City, 11-0. Kevin Polka went the distance for NPU, recording a six-hit shutout. The offensive attack for the Vikings was led by Brady Josephson, who went 4-for-5 and logged three RBIs, and Pat Zarilla, who went 3-for-4. NPU raised its overall record to 12-21, while the Regents dropped to 14-19.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 27, 2006, 10:17:34 am
North Park shut out Rockford yesterday up in the Forest City, 11-0. Kevin Polka went the distance for NPU, recording a six-hit shutout. The offensive attack for the Vikings was led by Brady Josephson, who went 4-for-5 and logged three RBIs, and Pat Zarilla, who went 3-for-4. NPU raised its overall record to 12-21, while the Regents dropped to 14-19.

For a team that was a preseason top 30 team, Rockford sure has had a disappointing season. NPU has had a fantastic season that I think has far exceeded all expectations.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on April 27, 2006, 11:51:45 am
Here is a little info to digest while we wait for the CCIW games to begin again.

Since 2001 and including the partial 2006 season of CCIW games:

Carthage  89-30-1   .746
IWU          85-35       .708
Augie        74-46       .617
Elmhurst   71-59       .592
NCC          66-53-1    .563
Millikin       54-66       .450
Wheaton  29-91        .242
NPU          21-99        .175

What does this mean? Not much, but it helps me pass the time between games. I think it clearly shows that Carthage and IWU average at least two more CCIW wins per year than any other programs. This season has really hurt Elmhurst and NCC who have traditionally been two of the better teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 27, 2006, 08:27:43 pm
Great article in the Kenosha News paper about Carthage's Scott Evosovich today. Here is the link        http://www.kenoshanews.com/articles/index.php?articleNum=6037
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 28, 2006, 01:00:19 pm
IWU won easily over Maryville (MO) last night.

Predictions for this weekends CCIW games.

Carthage over Wheaton 2-1 (Price will win a 2-1 game)

IWU over North Park 3-0

Elmhurst over NCC 2-1

Augie over Millikin 2-1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 28, 2006, 03:35:47 pm
Slight schedule change for IWU this weekend.  Due to weather concerns, IWU hosting North Park in a doubleheader this evening at 5:30pm, then a single noon game tomorrow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 28, 2006, 03:43:51 pm
Slight schedule change for IWU this weekend.  Due to weather concerns, IWU hosting North Park in a doubleheader this evening at 5:30pm, then a single noon game tomorrow.

That makes for a very late night... thankfully neither has to travel tonight. If weather is a concern, they should start even earlier tomorrow(I assume that NPU is staying in town?).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on April 28, 2006, 04:10:58 pm
I also assume NP is staying in town.  It is also alumni weekend for old IWU ballplayers so there should be an above average crowd there Saturday.  Weather looks bad right now, cloudy and windy.  Not sure if they will get two in this evening.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 28, 2006, 06:45:08 pm
Same with Augie..they moved their DH up to today
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 28, 2006, 08:45:09 pm
Carthage defeats Wheaton in 13 innings 7-5.  Steve Rucks goes 4-7 and drives in 5.  Price pitched 11 innings for Wheaton and got a no decision.


What happened to Chris Sadjak?  He's hitting .438 since returning from injury and hasn't made an appearance in the last two games.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 29, 2006, 03:47:16 am
Augustana beats Millikin 6-2 and 16-5. 

Kevin Kuntz pitched 6 innings and gave up 1 ER while striking out 7.  He moves to 7-2 on the season. 

Andrew Setter pitched 6 innings and gave up 1 ER.  He moves to 8-0 on the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 29, 2006, 03:56:26 am
IWU beat NPU 7-1 and 10-6


Updated Standings:

Carthage          14-2          (clinched tourney berth)
Augustana        12-5                   
IWU                 10-7
Millikin              8-9     
Wheaton          7-9           
North Park        6-11           
North Central     4-11         
Elmhurst           4-11         
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 29, 2006, 07:30:46 am
Way to go, Carthage!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 29, 2006, 05:55:09 pm
Sadjak injured his ankle at North Park, and is hoping to be ready to go in the next few weeks in the conference tourney. Carthage won the first game today and was winning 7-1 in the second game
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 29, 2006, 08:06:39 pm
The Augie - Millikin game is rescheduled for Monday

Carthage beat Wheaton 6-2 and 8-1...therefore they clinch the regular season title and the opportunity to host the conference tourney.


IWU won 12-2 today over NPU.  NCC and Elmhurst split today.

Updated Standings:

Updated Standings:

Carthage          16-2          clinched 1st place
Augustana        12-5          clinched tourney bid         
IWU                 11-7          clinched tourney bid
Millikin              8-9     
Wheaton          7-11           
North Park        6-12           
North Central     5-12         
Elmhurst           5-12


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bluejay Blue on April 30, 2006, 09:42:47 am
Hard times at Elmhurst this year. Next year promises to be different.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on April 30, 2006, 10:58:31 am
Hardly a D3 note, but any baseball fan ought to be amazed at the numbers Albert Pujols keeps putting up.  When this young man's feats put him in the statistical company of Musial, Mays, Williams et al., it is truly incredible.

He's now the first to attain career totals of 1,000 hits and 200 home runs in just 806 games.  Mays needed 824.

He keeps knocking down team figures, as well, which is notable when one ponders the names in St. Louis Cardinals history.

OK, back to CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 30, 2006, 04:01:29 pm
Carthage DH at Lakeland today has been cancelled and no make-up date has been scheduled as of yet
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: consultant on April 30, 2006, 05:02:09 pm
Emeritus,
I'm from the SCAC board but I agree with you about Pujols.  He is a special player.  What is more remarkable is his patience at the plate now that teams are walking him.  He has four walks today (2 were intentional passes I think) but the guys behind him have been killing the ball....even Edmonds !!!  The three batters behind him today are collectively 6-15 with 5 RBI. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 12:51:36 pm
What are the chances of the CCIW getting three teams into the NCAAs? I am certain that they will get two, but I think that IWU has to win the tourney to get in. If IWU wins it, will Carthage and Augie both get a bid?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 01, 2006, 01:52:54 pm
I doubt it. If Wesleyan were to win the tournament, I would have to guess that Augustana would be out of luck. There are only 3 teams in the conference that are comfortably above .500, and I wouldn't think that all 3 would have a chance to get in, no matter what the scenario is IMO.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on May 01, 2006, 08:09:51 pm
Hard times at Elmhurst this year. Next year promises to be different.

The Jays fall to NCC 8-6 in the battle for the bottom spot.  With IWU next weekend it looks like a 5-16 finish.  Let the applications start rolling in.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 09:19:15 pm
Looks like a very disappointing year for Elmhurst. I know they expected better than this.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on May 02, 2006, 12:44:33 am
Looks like a very disappointing year for Elmhurst. I know they expected better than this.

Hopefully all of you can forgive the bulk of us Bluejay fans for the somewhat naive optimism, or personal economic bias, of a few in earlier posts.  There are better days ahead (seven other spots in the standings)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on May 02, 2006, 12:53:37 am
Boredom and bourbon put me in a little nostalgic mood.  I was giving some thought to the differences I've seen between the bad, good, and great teams I've seen.  I think that the one thing the great teams I've seen have in common is that they look for an excuse to win.  The atmosphere of the team is that they are waiting for something to happen to pull them ahead, whether it is an error, hit, bad call, walk, or whatever.  They also look for an reason not to let other teams take advantage of these moments.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on May 02, 2006, 01:01:43 am
Alternatively, other teams seem to look for some reason to explain the loss.  "Their pitcher threw a gem, the wind hurt us, bad call, we've been in a slump, the hits just weren't falling, etc." 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 02, 2006, 11:40:23 am
Big non-conference game for Carthage today at Aurora. Hopefully the weather cooperates and they can get the game in. Both teams won't be able to throw one of their top 3 pitchers, but I'm sure you can expect to see the regulars for both teams play in todays game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2006, 12:31:13 pm
I think that the one thing the great teams I've seen have in common is that they look for an excuse to win. 

Bingo... great teams play to win, others play not to lose. Most of the better teams are very aggressive in most aspects of the game.

Carthage @ Aurora tonight will most likely decide the #1 seed in the regionals. I am guessing it will be a shootout as neither will throw their big dogs and both teams can swing it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 02, 2006, 01:16:48 pm
Hopefully Jeff Livek will be ready to go against Aurora today. He is 6-1 on the year, and not far behind Carthage's top 3 (maybe not behind at all). He threw 5 1/3 innings of 1 hit shutout ball against wheaton on Friday in the 13 inning game, so we'll see if Augie and Everts decide to go with him or go another way. If not Livek, my guess would be Chris Krepline who has also done very well this year. They are the top two candidates as of right now to become Carthage's 2 and 3 starters next year behind Jacob Husing. (Hopefully Michael Heinig, 17-1 his first two seasons, is eligible next season as well.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2006, 01:46:38 pm
Hopefully Jeff Livek will be ready to go against Aurora today. He is 6-1 on the year, and not far behind Carthage's top 3 (maybe not behind at all). He threw 5 1/3 innings of 1 hit shutout ball against wheaton on Friday in the 13 inning game, so we'll see if Augie and Everts decide to go with him or go another way. If not Livek, my guess would be Chris Krepline who has also done very well this year. They are the top two candidates as of right now to become Carthage's 2 and 3 starters next year behind Jacob Husing. (Hopefully Michael Heinig, 17-1 his first two seasons, is eligible next season as well.)

It looks like Carthage is set for next year as well on the hill. especially if Heinig comes back. Any word on that yet?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bluejay Blue on May 02, 2006, 02:37:30 pm
The Bluejays are not going out quiet. they will go 2 for 3 this weekend. Next year will be back on top gaurentee. Place bets!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 02, 2006, 02:51:52 pm
I've got a question...my memory is letting me down here.  Did the conference tourney always start on a Thursday or was it Friday?  Also...didn't all teams play 2 games on the first day instead of 1?  Thanks to anyone who has a better memory than I.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on May 02, 2006, 02:53:58 pm
The Bluejays are not going out quiet. they will go 2 for 3 this weekend. Next year will be back on top gaurentee. Place bets!!

If I were a betting man, I would take your bets.

1) The chances of Elmhurst beating IWU twice this weekend are very slim. You are what your record says you are. There is a reason Elmhurst is in last place.

2) Elmhurst has won only one CCIW title since 1982 and that was in 1997. I have to disagree on that one as well. I don't see it happening next year unless you do two things:
     1. replace your coach, and I do not see that happening, and
     2. recruit better players to fill in for the guys that played this year.

3) "gaurentee" is spelled GUARANTEE. Maybe if your spelling was better, people would take you a little more seriously on this board.

Good luck this weekend. I would love to see you beat IWU twice, but the realist in me does not see it coming true.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2006, 02:56:12 pm
I've got a question...my memory is letting me down here.  Did the conference tourney always start on a Thursday or was it Friday?  Also...didn't all teams play 2 games on the first day instead of 1?  Thanks to anyone who has a better memory than I.

It usually started on a Friday and all teams did play twice on day #1. I am not certain as to why they changed the format. It may have had something to do with need to secure a second field for day #1.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: matblake on May 02, 2006, 03:36:55 pm
Even though I don't follow the program that closely, it was great to see Wheaton as a little more competitive this year.  If Wheaton were to sweep North Park (definitely something not to count on, the Thunder could get swept themselves) they could finish with their best CCIW record since 1980. 
Wheaton has never been a powerhouse in baseball, and has only won one championship in 1951.  Hopefully we will continue to see some more good baseball from the Thunder in the future!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2006, 03:47:43 pm
The Bluejays are not going out quiet. they will go 2 for 3 this weekend. Next year will be back on top gaurentee. Place bets!!

If I were a betting man, I would take your bets.

1) The chances of Elmhurst beating IWU twice this weekend are very slim. You are what your record says you are. There is a reason Elmhurst is in last place.

2) Elmhurst has won only one CCIW title since 1982 and that was in 1997. I have to disagree on that one as well. I don't see it happening next year unless you do two things:
     1. replace your coach, and I do not see that happening, and
     2. recruit better players to fill in for the guys that played this year.

3) "gaurentee" is spelled GUARANTEE. Maybe if your spelling was better, people would take you a little more seriously on this board.

Good luck this weekend. I would love to see you beat IWU twice, but the realist in me does not see it coming true.

Even though Captain is a bit crass, he makes me laugh everytime he posts. He does make some valid points though.

Bluejay Blue... don't take it personally, that's just his style.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on May 02, 2006, 04:28:27 pm
IWU hosts DI Illinois State this evening.  Although no impact for either school in regard to post-season, still a fun game for the community as it is our version of a cross-town rivalry.  There is usually good crowd support for this game and the weather has been nice all day.  Two non-weekend starters take the hill for both schools, so I wouldn't expect a 1-0 game.

I must agree with Poppa, every time there is a post from an Elmhurst fan or about Elmhurst, it usally (1) is funny, and (2) mentions personal feelings towards the coach. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 02, 2006, 06:38:09 pm
Carthage remained at number 8 this week, and Augustana is back in the poll at number 21. Also, Aurora moved up to 16.  The defending champs whitewater are now in the top 25 as well. As far as Heinig goes, I have no idea. I assume it all depends on how he does next fall semester.  I know this is a baseball board, but any thoughts on the draft on how you think the packers/bears did?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2006, 07:37:26 pm
Carthage @ Aurora: after three innings 0-0...

Back to an earlier comment... I think the Packers' draft went as well as could be expected. I refuse to even speak the name of the other mentioned team, but I did not follow theirs.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 02, 2006, 07:39:48 pm
BP, I'm with you on that, even though i can actually say bears! Not too many packer fans that go to or went to Carthage!! Poppa, any word on who Carthage is throwing?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2006, 07:45:56 pm
BP, I'm with you on that, even though i can actually say bears! Not too many packer fans that go to or went to Carthage!! Poppa, any word on who Carthage is throwing?


No word on who is on the hill... Steve"the Pistol" Marovich(greatest SID in the world) did not elaborate other than the score and inning.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on May 02, 2006, 08:07:27 pm
I must agree with Poppa, every time there is a post from an Elmhurst fan or about Elmhurst, it usally (1) is funny, and (2) mentions personal feelings towards the coach. 

First of all, I hope I don't get lumped together with all the other Bluejay Backers on the board.  Secondly, I really hope that Bluejay Fan isn't Jones coming back to heap more shame upon the Jays.  Finally, as an Elmhurst fan, I must disagree with the Bluejay Fan.  I doubt they will crawl into the Tourney next year because that would require 1) a new coach AND 2) a significant influx of new talent.  Even if a new cheese is brought in, its tough to bring in the recruits needed to compete in the CCIW while going through a coaching change. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2006, 10:19:06 pm
Carthage loses 3-0 to Aurora tonight. AU looks to have a lock on the #1 seed in the region barring any major catastrophes in the next week or two.

Great job by the AU pitchers as it is not very often that Carthage is shutout with only 4 hits.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 03, 2006, 06:33:51 am
Carthage shut out, and not by one of their top pitchers?  What's known about the guy(s) who shut them down?

As for draft news in my area, it seems the new ownership of the Vikings is trying hard to move Viking news off the police blotter and back onto the sports pages.  Trades and draft may have helped the hapless Vikes--"may" have helped.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 03, 2006, 08:30:11 am
Augustana beat Millikin 11-3 last night and then beat Dubuque 11-10 afterwards.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 03, 2006, 09:50:46 am
Looking at the box score it looks like Augie played several backups half the game yesterday. I'm not making an excuse at all, Aurora obviously deserved to win the game. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't planned that way, but the starters were ticking Augie off so bad he pulled some of them, which many know has happened in years past in non-conference games.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 03, 2006, 10:36:11 am
Looking at the box score it looks like Augie played several backups half the game yesterday. I'm not making an excuse at all, Aurora obviously deserved to win the game. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't planned that way, but the starters were ticking Augie off so bad he pulled some of them, which many know has happened in years past in non-conference games.

I would expect that pulling some starters in such a big in-region game sent a message last night. Hopefully it shows this weekend at Millikin.

If Carthage handles Millikin this weekend and NPU takes care of Wheaton, NPU vaults into the CCIW post-season. Either way, for NPU to be in post-season contention this late is a testament to things turning around for the Vikings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 03, 2006, 10:55:08 am
Carthage shut out, and not by one of their top pitchers?  What's known about the guy(s) who shut them down?


Quoting Coach Augie Schmidt IV on the May 2 Aurora Loss:  “Matt Miller stuck it to us pretty good, and we have to tip our hat to him.  We showed our inexperience by not making any adjustments to what he was doing.  We swung at pitches out of the strike zone, and we didn’t have a lot to show for it.  We haven’t run into a lot of pitchers like Miller who can command it and throw that well.  Aurora has a senior-laden team, and we saw a lot of these guys two years ago in the regional at Illinois Wesleyan.  They have a nice team, and hopefully, we’ll get another chance to play them in a few weeks.”
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 03, 2006, 11:05:37 am
According to the article on Carthage's website, the pitcher who beat them improved to only 2-0 so I'm guessing he is normally a reliever.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 03, 2006, 02:04:43 pm
Anybody know the in-region records versus regionally ranked and nationally ranked teams of Aurora, Carthage, and Augustana. I have a feeling that these will be the top three seeds in the NCAA regional(unless they stumble in their final weeknds and conference tourneys).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 03, 2006, 06:19:25 pm
I think we can garner much more information when the first NCAA regional rankings are released either tomorrow or Friday.  Then we can try to figure out what all the records are.

However, I think Augie is about 25-7 in region
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 03, 2006, 07:47:28 pm
What are the chances of the CCIW getting three teams into the NCAAs? I am certain that they will get two, but I think that IWU has to win the tourney to get in. If IWU wins it, will Carthage and Augie both get a bid?

Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 03, 2006, 08:08:56 pm
What are the chances of the CCIW getting three teams into the NCAAs? I am certain that they will get two, but I think that IWU has to win the tourney to get in. If IWU wins it, will Carthage and Augie both get a bid?

Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?

Don't forget that there are more pool C bids than before.  As the mutual fund ads are required to say: 'past performance is no guarantee of future results'! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 03, 2006, 08:11:49 pm
What are the chances of the CCIW getting three teams into the NCAAs? I am certain that they will get two, but I think that IWU has to win the tourney to get in. If IWU wins it, will Carthage and Augie both get a bid?

Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?

I don't think the CCIW has, but I think the WIAC has(Whitewater, Oshkosh and Stevens Point) in the past few seasons. The most the CCIW had in is two and that has been accomplished many times. I would expect the same this year unless IWU or the #4 seed wins the tourney. Then Carthage and Augie could both sneak in based on what happens in other conference tourneys.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 03, 2006, 08:17:36 pm
Of course, we will all know a lot more when(if) the NCAA Regional Rankings come out tomorrow.

I think the Central will show:
1. Aurora (IL)
2. Carthage (WI)
3. Augustana (IL)
4. Washington (MO)
5. Central (IA)
6. IWU (IL)

1and 2 could flip based on when they ranked the teams, as of last night, I would have to put Aurora ahead of Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 04, 2006, 10:08:01 am
I think that's also what will happen as far as Carthage is concerned. Even though neither of the teams top 3 were throwing, Aurora still won and that's what the voters seem to care about most which makes it tough because this isn't basketball or football where the same starters are playing every game. I know for the most part they do, but pitching is obviously huge and can completely change the outcome of a game depending who is on the mound.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on May 04, 2006, 11:14:54 am
Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?
I don't think the CCIW has, but I think the WIAC has(Whitewater, Oshkosh and Stevens Point) in the past few seasons.
Actually in 1998, the WIAC sent three teams, when La Crosse, Oshkosh and Stevens Point all qualified.  Oshkosh went on to win the Regional and took 5th place in Salem with a 41-5 record.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 04, 2006, 11:31:59 am
Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?
Quote

According to the CCIW website (http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/cciwteamsinncaatournament.php), the conference has never sent three teams into the regional tournament.  On several occasions, two teams have made it to regionals.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 04, 2006, 04:42:13 pm
NCAA regional polls are out:

Team Regional Record Overall
Central
1. Aurora       21-4 25-8
2. Carthage   20-3 27-7
3. Augustana 25-7 29-8
4. Central      12-3 23-9
5. Wash U      21-2 34-5

It is close to what was expected... no real surprises.

Here is a link to the website with all the regional rankings:

http://ncaasports.com/baseball/mens/polls/diviii
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 04, 2006, 08:00:11 pm
Well Augie and Carthage both look great right now as long as they both don't play bad this weekend.  Aurora and Wash U will be Pool B teams most likely so no worry about them in Pool C.  Augie has beat Central which will help if they are both Pool C candidates.  Therefore...there is a very good chance that the first team to be looked at for Pool C from the central will be Augie or Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2006, 07:54:04 pm
I just checked the IWU season record, but was uncertain of the in-region status for several opponents.  If they don't win the tourney, they would appear to be on-the-bubble (at best!) - is the consensus that they are AQ or nothing? 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 05, 2006, 08:20:26 pm
Even though I don't follow the program that closely, it was great to see Wheaton as a little more competitive this year.  If Wheaton were to sweep North Park (definitely something not to count on, the Thunder could get swept themselves) they could finish with their best CCIW record since 1980. 
Wheaton has never been a powerhouse in baseball, and has only won one championship in 1951.  Hopefully we will continue to see some more good baseball from the Thunder in the future!

Gregory, you can take solace in the fact that Wheaton baseball fans have experienced more futility than North Park football. ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 06, 2006, 01:20:54 am
Wheaton beat NPU 5-1 tonight
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 06, 2006, 11:04:06 am
Even though I don't follow the program that closely, it was great to see Wheaton as a little more competitive this year.  If Wheaton were to sweep North Park (definitely something not to count on, the Thunder could get swept themselves) they could finish with their best CCIW record since 1980. 
Wheaton has never been a powerhouse in baseball, and has only won one championship in 1951.  Hopefully we will continue to see some more good baseball from the Thunder in the future!


Gregory, you can take solace in the fact that Wheaton baseball fans have experienced more futility than North Park football. ;)

Now that was a perfect analogy Ralph!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on May 06, 2006, 04:26:22 pm
Carthage wins 11-2 in game one this afternoon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 06, 2006, 10:07:34 pm
North Park sweeps Wheaton 3-2 and 10-5 at Legion Field this afternoon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 07, 2006, 03:01:21 am
A Carthage win at Millikin on Sunday leaves three teams at 8-13 in the CCIW... all tied for the fourth, and final, playoff spot. NPU would get in the tourney based on sweeping Millikin in week one and taking 2 of 3 from Wheaton this weekend.

I think it would be great if NPU got in. The chances are very good as Carthage should beat Millikin.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: fourtimeallcciw on May 07, 2006, 11:13:35 am
A Carthage win at Millikin on Sunday leaves three teams at 8-13 in the CCIW... all tied for the fourth, and final, playoff spot. NPU would get in the tourney based on sweeping Millikin in week one and taking 2 of 3 from Wheaton this weekend.

I think it would be great if NPU got in. The chances are very good as Carthage should beat Millikin.

I think if NC beats Augie today, they'll finish 8-13 as well.  Who would win a 4-team tiebreaker between NP, Millikin, Wheaton, & NC?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 07, 2006, 12:35:52 pm
I think if NC beats Augie today, they'll finish 8-13 as well.  Who would win a 4-team tiebreaker between NP, Millikin, Wheaton, & NC?

WOW... I did not even notice that NCC beat Augie yesterday. I have no idea of what happens in a four way tie. Anyone???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 07, 2006, 12:40:27 pm
FROM THE CCIW WEBSITE:

"Possible Tiebreaker Scenarios
Carthage only needs to win one more game to earn the outright conference championship.  If Carthage loses their final three games and Augustana wins their four remaining games, co-champions will be declared between Augustana and Carthage.  Carthage has clinched the right to host by virtue of winning two of three games vs. Augustana, the first tiebreaker criteria, should they finished tied.

Augustana has clinched a tournament berth.  They can share the conference championship title if they win their four remaining games and Carthage loses its remaining three CCIW games with both teams finishing 16-5.

Illinois Wesleyan has also clinched a tournament berth.  Worst case for them is losing their three remaining games to finish 11-10.  Millikin could finish 12-9 (if they win last four games) or 11-10 (if they win three of last four games) to earn the No. 3 seed.  Millikin beat Illinois Wesleyan two out of three times during the regular season, thus, earning the tiebreaker over Illinois Wesleyan should they finish tied.

Millikin needs to win their last four games (to finish 12-9) or three of its last four games (to finish 11-10) and Illinois Wesleyan must lose their remaining three games to earn the #3 tournament seed.  Otherwise, Millikin will likely earn the No. 4 tournament seed.  If they go 2-2 to finish 10-11, they could tie with Wheaton for the final spot assuming Wheaton sweeps North Park.  Using the tiebreaker, Wheaton would get the final seed by virtue of their winning two of three games against Millikin.

Wheaton could finish 10-11 if they sweep North Park this week. If Millikin loses all three of its remaining games, Wheaton’s 10-11 finish would give them the final tournament berth over Millikin’s 8-13. 

Millikin goes 0-for-4 and North Park takes 2-of-3 from Wheaton, giving each team a 9-12 record. North Park gets into the tournament based on their 3-0 record against Millikin.

If Wheaton wins 2-of-3 this weekend and Millikin wins 1-of-4 over the next week, each team finishes 9-12 and Wheaton has the tiebreaker with a 2-1 record. Or, if Wheaton wins 2-of-3 and Millikin goes 0-for-4, Wheaton would be 9-12 and Millikin would be 8-13, sending Wheaton."



** The one problem they never mention is the NCC factor... your guess is as good as mine on this one. I still think NPU would go.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 07, 2006, 01:49:17 pm
The one problem they never mention is the NCC factor... your guess is as good as mine on this one. I still think NPU would go.


North Park holds the tiebreaker against Millikin (having gone 3-0 against the Big Blue) as well as Wheaton and North Central (having taken 2 of 3 against both).  The fourth and final berth hinges on the outcome of the Carthage-Millikin game on Sunday.  If Carthage prevails, North Park will make the tournament for the first time since 1999.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: tjcummingsfan on May 07, 2006, 02:02:56 pm
Wow I'm amazed North Park went to the tourney that recently.  The 4 years I was there the team was awful, I can't even imagine watching a team as good as this year's.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 07, 2006, 02:32:01 pm
North Park's 1999 squad featured the best top-to-bottom offensive attack since the 1996 season.  The team batting average was .304, scored 268 runs, and hit 78 doubles and 33 home runs.  Curtis Tate was the leading hitter (.425, 4 HR, 34 BI), but there were some other pretty fearsome sticks in the lineup as well: Cory Clark (.385-7-28), Dan Hernandez (.351-2-39 and 14 SB), Chad Peterson (9 HR, 32 RBI), and Brandon Wiley (.322-6-29 + 10 SB at leadoff), to name a few.  The pitching staff had a true rotation of four guys they could run out there against anyone: Andrew Postek went 7-2 with an ERA of 2.53 -- no small feat pitching at Hedstrand Field; Tim Dykes (4-6, 4.34) was a tough competitor on the mound and a leader in the dugout; Joe Miller (2-2, 3.66) and Shelly Cohen (3-5, 5.37) were the other two top starters.  The main weakness of the team was fielding (.927).

The 1999 Vikings started off with 3 big wins in Texas, scoring 26 runs in their first two games.  They ended up 10-8 in the CCIW and lost their first round games to Carthage and Wesleyan.  Perhaps the most memorable game of that season was against the University of Chicago on a day when the wind was howling out to right.  The Maroons scored 4 runs in each of the first 3 innings to go up 12-0.  North Park started to hit the ball -- I think Cory Clark had three home runs and lost out on a fourth when the ump couldn't see the ball sail over the right-field net, so he called it foul.  The Vikings led 21-18 going into the top of the eighth, and Andrew Postek was brought in to finish out the game on the mound.  The Vikes put up 10 runs in the bottom of the ninth to win it 31-18, and Postek got credited with a save.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 07, 2006, 04:41:11 pm
According to the Millikin website, Carthage defeated the Big Blue 9-5 on Sunday, thereby qualifying North Park as the fourth team the conference tournament.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 07, 2006, 08:46:21 pm
Congratulations to North Park on making the tournament. Now its conference tourney time, the slate is cleared, and each of these 4 teams has a chance to get hot for a few days and make regionals
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2006, 12:19:08 am
Congrats to Coach Luke Johnson and his NPU team. One season and he turned it around. Way to go!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 08, 2006, 04:54:52 am
Gregory, you can take solace in the fact that Wheaton baseball fans have experienced more futility than North Park football. ;)

Has Wheaton gone without recording a winning season in baseball since 1968? If not, then the Wheaties have by no means matched NPU's gridiron futility.

But this is not a weekend to bemoan the athletic shortcomings of the Vikings. Congrats to Luke Johnson and the NPU baseball team upon making the CCIW tournament! What a great turnaround in the space of one season! Things are definitely looking up for the North Park baseball program.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on May 08, 2006, 09:45:42 am
Sorry to all of the Carthage, IWU, and AU fans, but it sure would be neat to see NPU pull an upset in the Tournament.  Everybody loves an underdog. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on May 08, 2006, 09:55:26 am
Sorry to all of the Carthage, IWU, and AU fans, but it sure would be neat to see NPU pull an upset in the Tournament.  Everybody loves an underdog. 


Hate to disagree, but I doubt that the players from Carthage, Augie, and IWU love that underdog.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: matblake on May 08, 2006, 10:25:36 am
Congrats to North Park.  Sager, Wheaton's last winning Season in Baseball came in 1999 with a 18-17-1 record (9-11 in CCIW) under Doug Yager.  Their last winning season in CCIW play came in 1980 under Gary Taylor at 11-5 (15-12 overall). 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 08, 2006, 12:04:36 pm
Yeah, congrats to North Park are in order.  They had a fine season.  However, an even greater congrats go to Carthage for another superior season.

Take 'em both, the conference title and the CCIW tourney.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 08, 2006, 01:34:34 pm
It will be interesting to see what the coaches decide to do as far as who they pitch. I'm sure North Park will throw their ace against Carthage, but for Carthage, IWU, and Augie it will be interesting. IWU most likely will throw there #1 against Augie. Will Carthage throw Evosovich against NPU or save him for the Augie/IWU winner (assuming Carthage wins.) Same for Augie, will they throw their best against IWU or try to save him for Carthage. Obviously, you need to take every game and team seriously, so it makes it a tough call. Luckily for both Carthage and Augie, they have 3 pitchers that have performed well and been reliable all year in conference.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on May 08, 2006, 01:40:45 pm
My call is Carthage over NPU and IWU over Augie in round #1!

I am sure that the Red Men will walk away untouched this weekend.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2006, 01:46:34 pm
It will be interesting to see what the coaches decide to do as far as who they pitch. I'm sure North Park will throw their ace against Carthage, but for Carthage, IWU, and Augie it will be interesting. IWU most likely will throw there #1 against Augie. Will Carthage throw Evosovich against NPU or save him for the Augie/IWU winner (assuming Carthage wins.) Same for Augie, will they throw their best against IWU or try to save him for Carthage. Obviously, you need to take every game and team seriously, so it makes it a tough call. Luckily for both Carthage and Augie, they have 3 pitchers that have performed well and been reliable all year in conference.

Carthage will throw their #1, Evosovich. Augie Schmidt does not take anyone lightly in the post-season. If, by chance, Carthage jumps out to an big, early lead, he may pull Evosovich to save him for the final day in relief. That has been his M. O. in the past.

This should be a great CCIW tourney. Think Carthage is already assured a Pool C bid, but I think Augie has to win a game or two to get themselves in without winning the tourney(It makes game #1 vs IWU a huge game for Augie). IWU and NPU both have to win it to get a bid. I do not see IWU getting a thrid CCIW bid with 12 losses already.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bstar21 on May 08, 2006, 02:28:47 pm
You are right, it will be interesting to see who throws in the IWU-Augie game.  I think Wesleyan has to throw there number 1 since Augie roughed up the rest of there pitching.  I like the way Augie is swinging it right now, and i think Augie and Carthage in the championship, with both of them going to the regionals.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2006, 02:42:34 pm
You are right, it will be interesting to see who throws in the IWU-Augie game.  I think Wesleyan has to throw there number 1 since Augie roughed up the rest of there pitching.  I like the way Augie is swinging it right now, and i think Augie and Carthage in the championship, with both of them going to the regionals.

If it's an Augie-Carthage final, both will be heading to a regional. It will be interesting to see if they both end up in the Central. I think they will, but the new format may change things a bit.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on May 08, 2006, 04:17:27 pm
It will be interesting to see what the coaches decide to do as far as who they pitch. I'm sure North Park will throw their ace against Carthage, but for Carthage, IWU, and Augie it will be interesting. IWU most likely will throw there #1 against Augie. Will Carthage throw Evosovich against NPU or save him for the Augie/IWU winner (assuming Carthage wins.) Same for Augie, will they throw their best against IWU or try to save him for Carthage. Obviously, you need to take every game and team seriously, so it makes it a tough call. Luckily for both Carthage and Augie, they have 3 pitchers that have performed well and been reliable all year in conference.

Carthage will throw their #1, Evosovich. Augie Schmidt does not take anyone lightly in the post-season. If, by chance, Carthage jumps out to an big, early lead, he may pull Evosovich to save him for the final day in relief. That has been his M. O. in the past.

This should be a great CCIW tourney. Think Carthage is already assured a Pool C bid, but I think Augie has to win a game or two to get themselves in without winning the tourney(It makes game #1 vs IWU a huge game for Augie). IWU and NPU both have to win it to get a bid. I do not see IWU getting a thrid CCIW bid with 12 losses already.

IWU will likely throw Dave Dobosz, 8-1 with a 1.41 ERA on the year, including a 3-2 win over Augie earlier in the year.  Unfortunately, he is the only IWU pitcher with a victory over Augie or Carthage.  IWU has no chance of a Pool C so they need a solid weekend.  If they can continue to swing the bats as they have, they have a chance, but pitching needs to be solid.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2006, 04:29:01 pm
My call is Carthage over NPU and IWU over Augie in round #1!

I am sure that the Red Men will walk away untouched this weekend.

NPU being in the tourney for the first time since '99 got me thinking. How long has it been for the other schools?

Also, when was the last time some of these schools were NOT in the CCIW tourney?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 08, 2006, 04:40:40 pm
"Carthage will throw their #1, Evosovich. Augie Schmidt does not take anyone lightly in the post-season. If, by chance, Carthage jumps out to an big, early lead, he may pull Evosovich to save him for the final day in relief. That has been his M. O. in the past."

I wouldn't be so sure. If i remember right, we threw Heinig against Augustana last year in the first game of the tournament, and he was Carthage's 3 starter the entire year last year. I would not be surprised if Olson or Husing threw against north park. If one of these two do throw, its not that Carthage would be looking past NP. But all the pitchers had good success against NP in the 3 game series earlier, and Evosovich by far had the best game against Augie (as well as against IWU) of the Redmen's 3 starters. So, how certain pitchers did against a team can play a huge role in who the coaches decide to start. Olson's only rough outing was actually against Augie, so I doubt he would throw against them.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on May 08, 2006, 05:13:30 pm
"Carthage will throw their #1, Evosovich. Augie Schmidt does not take anyone lightly in the post-season. If, by chance, Carthage jumps out to an big, early lead, he may pull Evosovich to save him for the final day in relief. That has been his M. O. in the past."

I wouldn't be so sure. If i remember right, we threw Heinig against Augustana last year in the first game of the tournament, and he was Carthage's 3 starter the entire year last year. I would not be surprised if Olson or Husing threw against north park. If one of these two do throw, its not that Carthage would be looking past NP. But all the pitchers had good success against NP in the 3 game series earlier, and Evosovich by far had the best game against Augie (as well as against IWU) of the Redmen's 3 starters. So, certain pitchers did against a team can play a huge role in who the coaches decide to start. Olson's only rough outing was actually against Augie, so I doubt he would throw against them.


Husing was the only Carthage pitcher to give up an earned run against NP in the season series.  I would start either Livek or Husing against them and save Evosovich and Olson for the next two games...you could even throw a combination of those two (Livek and Husing) and pitch them both again the next day...(possibly)  I assume there is a mercy rule in the tournament?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 08, 2006, 05:18:50 pm
Not sure on the mercy rule, that's a good question. Livek is huge for the Redmen, especially if they have to play more than 3 games. He would be in any other team's top 3 this year, and probably their number 1 besides the 2 Augustana pitchers and possilby the Freshman from IWU. Anyone plan on heading to Carthage for some of the tournament? I'll be there for sure on Thursday, no sure about Friday and Saturday yet.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 08, 2006, 05:22:59 pm
I still think they go with Evosovich and give him a day of rest if he needs to come back for an inning or two on Saturday. If he throws Friday, it is doubtful he throws on Saturday as well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 09, 2006, 09:03:54 am



 I assume there is a mercy rule in the tournament?

Congrats to NP! What a turnaround!

I've seen some strange things over the year's in the tournament. Don't even bring up something like the mercy rule!!! Bad karma!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on May 09, 2006, 01:07:48 pm



 I assume there is a mercy rule in the tournament?

Congrats to NP! What a turnaround!

I've seen some strange things over the year's in the tournament. Don't even bring up something like the mercy rule!!! Bad karma!!!


I cringed when I wrote it as well....believe me I knocked on wood, jumped over the first base line, ate chicken for dinner, and did every other little thing I could think of to not wake the baseball gods!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 09, 2006, 02:47:31 pm
Here is a link to other post-season tourneys that should land in the Central region:

IIAC:
http://www.iowaconference.com/men/baseball/tournament/2006.htm

NIIC:
http://www.niiconline.com/men/baseball/bracket.htm

CCIW:
http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325

SLIAC:
http://www.sliac.org/mens3/mbaseball/

I would also expect Wash U to get into the tourney as a Pool B team.

That leaves 1 or 2 open spots for Pool C teams, depending on whether the Central Region is a 6 or 7 team regional... I think that the CCIW will get a second team and possible the IIAC depending on who wins the tourneys.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 09, 2006, 03:18:21 pm
Lets just hope the regional is within a reasonable driving distance. The last time Carthage was in the top ten going into regionals was in 2003 and they got shipped to mississippi!!  They were ranked 2nd at the time. I'm sure Irish remember that all too well
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 09, 2006, 03:35:20 pm
Any ideas of where the regional might be this year? Could Carthage host... without lights? What are the odds that it lands at IWU? How about Cedar Rapids in IOWA?

I always loved it when it was Kane County Stadium... Aurora could host it. Great facility, central location for all.

Any nice places in the SLIAC to play?

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on May 09, 2006, 04:05:38 pm
Kane County is out, the Cougars have games there on the 17th-19th.  They are also very protective of the field.  My son's supposed to play a HS game there tomorrow and they told them if their is a chance of rain they won't play.  Went to the Carthage/AU playoff game there a few years ago (mid 90's?)and it is a great atmosphere.  I think AU might be out of luck.  They use Oswego HS for most of their home games and that is being used on the 18th and 19th.  Too bad, it's a nice field with lights that could host a regional. 

BipPoppa, did you play at Kane County against AU?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 09, 2006, 04:18:50 pm


BipPoppa, did you play at Kane County against AU?

I did... 93' and '94. Great place to a ball game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 09, 2006, 05:52:29 pm
Any ideas of where the regional might be this year? Could Carthage host... without lights? What are the odds that it lands at IWU? How about Cedar Rapids in IOWA?

I always loved it when it was Kane County Stadium... Aurora could host it. Great facility, central location for all.

Any nice places in the SLIAC to play?



I doubt Carthage would be able to host for the simple fact that you stated, they don't have lights.  Carthage's field itself is fine, as are their stands. But they need lights, and also a pressbox.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on May 09, 2006, 05:56:27 pm
What about Augustana hosting the regional if they're in it?  One of the nicest facilities around, lights, pretty much in the middle of the region.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 09, 2006, 06:53:41 pm
I watched the first five innings of the Carthage-Concordia game today. Redmen were up 5-0 when I left. They hit the ball well and put up four in the first. Boe Baitinger in CF is a very good looking ballplayer. Very fast and made a spectacular diving catch in right-center to take away a sure double.

If the bats can stay hot, they should win the CCIW tournament with the pitching staff. A four team regional would be huge!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 09, 2006, 06:53:51 pm
I saw Augie's new facility last year and it is beautiful. As far as things that are needed (lights, a pressbox for adequate space for media people to sit) and a nice playing surface, Augie definately meets the requirements. However, I don't know all the criteria the committee looks at to determine a site.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 09, 2006, 06:57:54 pm
final score: Carthage 12, Concordia Ill. 4. Krepline was the winning pitcher for Carthage. Thats all the details I know as of now
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 09, 2006, 08:39:30 pm
Rose-Hulman is already hosting a regional...I don't know if that could possibly be a place for some of our teams or if they'll try to keep all the central region teams together somewhere else
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 09, 2006, 08:45:46 pm
Bataviapete...how are the Tri-City teams doing this year.  I'm an alum of Geneva.  I've done a horrible job the past few years of keeping up with the local teams now that I'm living nowhere close.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 09, 2006, 09:38:06 pm
I watched the first five innings of the Carthage-Concordia game today. Redmen were up 5-0 when I left. They hit the ball well and put up four in the first. Boe Baitinger in CF is a very good looking ballplayer. Very fast and made a spectacular diving catch in right-center to take away a sure double.

If the bats can stay hot, they should win the CCIW tournament with the pitching staff. A four team regional would be huge!

4 teams would be nice, but all regionals are either 6 or 7 teams this year. 53 teams in the NCAAs this spring.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 09, 2006, 11:27:18 pm
Looks like some horrible weather on tap this weekend in Kenosha.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 10, 2006, 08:37:26 am
Redmenfan...I remember the trip to Jackson, Mississippi all too well! What a hellhole! I can't remember which school the NCAA administrator for the regional came from (I think Central of IA) but even he told us we got screwed royally by being placed in that regional. Number 2 team in the country while Ripon, an at-large team, gets to play in Oshkosh!

In fact they are still fighting the war down there. Our hotel was across from the state capitol. The eagle on top of the capitol was facing south, even though the building faced north!!!

Yee ha!!!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on May 10, 2006, 09:09:24 am
I doubt Carthage would be able to host for the simple fact that you stated, they don't have lights.  Carthage's field itself is fine, as are their stands. But they need lights, and also a pressbox.
Oshkosh has hosted regionals in the past at both Tiedemann Field (Home Field) and EJ Schneider (Oshkosh North HS.)  Tiedemann has never had lights, so I don't know if that requirement is exactly set in stone.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2006, 09:31:39 am
With the expanded regionals, it will be tough to host without lights... especially if it rains.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 10, 2006, 09:48:23 am
 Plus, Carthage's field has no pressbox for teams SID's and media people either. I know it would seem like those people could just sit in the stands somewhere, but the Carthage football team two years ago would have hosted a playoff game but they had to go on the road because they did not have a pressbox. Again, I'm not positive this is a rule for playoff baseball, I'm just strictly guessing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 10, 2006, 09:49:59 am
And as far as the weather is concerned, it doesn't look too good at all. Its been in the 60's and 70's all week, but starting tomorrow through Saturday its only supposed to be in the low to mid 50's with a chance of rain
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on May 10, 2006, 10:13:32 am
augie_superfan- The Tri Cities are so so this year in baseball.   STC North has probably the best team.  Geneva has struggled with some young guys playing but they have a JR LHP that is D1 material.  Our C from Batavia is playing at Augie next year.  In fact I saw a list of Chicago area recruits for next year and Auguie also has the C from Naperville North and a couple of others, they did the best of the area d3's so far.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: baseballd3 on May 10, 2006, 10:16:06 am
I know one school that should not be allowed to host a regional. IWU. I know what you are thinking, they have a great field and great facilities, and I would have to say yes to both of those. They have lights and a good playing surface too, but what they dont have is a bullpen for the visiting team, unless you call a little bit of dirt, and a plate a bullpen. The home bullpen area has TWO mounds, raised like their field while their visiting barely lifts off the ground, only enough room for ONE pitcher to get loose. I feel that cheating the visiting team of these necessities should make IWU no longer a candidate for hosting post season competition, unless they fix these problems, then it would be a wonderful field to play May baseball.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2006, 10:51:54 am
I think there is a good chance that IWU WILL host the regional... even without them in it. Great facility, central location, etc...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 10, 2006, 11:45:33 am
Well if IWU does host the regional, hopefully some of their players and frat boys stick around and heckle all the players from the fraternity house roof tops to make things fun!!
Title: Regional Rankings...
Post by: mwunder on May 10, 2006, 01:14:47 pm
I would think that if regional rankings were released today, that Carthage would be back on top.  Aurora lost to Rockford on the 5th, pushing them to their 5th in region loss.  It shouldn't matter, just an observation.
Title: Re: Regional Rankings...
Post by: BigPoppa on May 10, 2006, 01:37:43 pm
I would think that if regional rankings were released today, that Carthage would be back on top.  Aurora lost to Rockford on the 5th, pushing them to their 5th in region loss.  It shouldn't matter, just an observation.

If Carthage takes care of business this weekend, I would expect them to jump to #1. Aurora should cruise through their conference tourney this weekend.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 11, 2006, 09:00:41 am
Raining and 43 in Chicago. I'm sure it's not much better in Kenosha!

Showing rain thru Sunday and low 50's for Kenosha on AOL weather. If they don't play the tournament, my guess is the Red people go to the regional as conference rep.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: matblake on May 11, 2006, 10:39:01 am
Here is the link to the CCIW Baseball sports guide.  Under Championships on Page 4 at Letter D it gives the adaptations to the tournament in the event of bad weather.
http://www.cciw.org/pdf/sports_guides/BaseballSportsGuide.pdf
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 11, 2006, 11:20:07 am
Been raining all morning in Kenosha, and is supposed to continue for most of the day. Hopefully somehow, someway they find a way to get the tournament in. As of right now, tomorrow doesn't look much better, and Saturday at least its only supposed to be scattered showers!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 02:49:04 pm
I hope it clears... I would hate to have a few seniors careers end on a phone call. My fear is that it keeps raining. If so, Carthage wins the bid and I think Augie would get a Pool C. It makes it tough for IWU and NPU as they would never have had a chance on field.

Pray for sun.... or a lack of rain.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 03:12:59 pm
From the Carthage Webpage:

"The Thursday, May 11 games at the CCIW Baseball Tournament in Kenosha, Wis., have been rained out.  The tournament will now begin on Friday, May 12 and will remain a three-day event with a Sunday, May 14 completion date."

Looks like they are still trying to make it a three-day event.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 04:20:18 pm
New Regional Rankings Out Today: It looks as if a 6th teams could be shipped into the Central Region if the tourneys go as planned.

Updated May 11, 2006

No.   Team   Regional Record   Overall
Central
1   Carthage   24-3   31-7
2   Aurora   24-5   28-9
3   Augustana (Illinois)   27-8   31-9
4   Washington-U. in St. Louis   27-3   34-5
5   Simpson   15-6   24-9
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 11, 2006, 04:52:56 pm
Does anyone know what the absolute 'drop-dead' time is for the tourney?  (i.e., If the weather refuses to cooperate, could the tourney continue into Monday, Tuesday...?)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 04:54:54 pm
Does anyone know what the absolute 'drop-dead' time is for the tourney?  (i.e., If the weather refuses to cooperate, could the tourney continue into Monday, Tuesday...?)

Must be completed by 6PM on SUNDAY.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 11, 2006, 05:33:21 pm
Does anyone know what the absolute 'drop-dead' time is for the tourney?  (i.e., If the weather refuses to cooperate, could the tourney continue into Monday, Tuesday...?)

Must be completed by 6PM on SUNDAY.

Well, then - anyone know a good anti-rain dance?! ;D

Hypothetical - let's say the tourney gets PARTIALLY played, and Carthage has been eliminated.  In the absence of a completed tourney, would Carthage still receive the AQ?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 11, 2006, 05:41:17 pm
Here is a link to the official CCIW tourney rules(look on page 4 for the rain procedures). I am sure it is outdated as it still uses the point system in the tourney. It also lists rotating teams as hosts.

I have no clue as to how this is going to work if the rain continues or it rains out the finals. My Carthage degree was not in rocket science.

http://www.cciw.org/pdf/sports_guides/BaseballSportsGuide.pdf  (http://www.cciw.org/pdf/sports_guides/BaseballSportsGuide.pdf)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 11, 2006, 06:35:58 pm
Thanks, BigPoppa, but unless I missed it, the rule book didn't address partial tourneys, and, like you said, seems out-of-date (but karma anyway).  Since we all seem to agree that Carthage is a lock for a C, and Augie is a near-lock, if the tourney cannot be completed, I'm rooting for IWU and NPU being the only teams left alive!  THEN what???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 12, 2006, 09:15:17 am
http://www.cciw.org/pdf/sports_guides/BaseballSportsGuide.pdf

Page 6, Paragraph G

In accordance with NCAA regulations, the conference champion must be delared no later than 6pm on the date of the selection for the NCAA Championship. If the post-season tournament is terminated, the conference automatic qualifier will be based on the regular season winner, in accordance with NCAA regulations and CCIW baseball sports guide duidelines.

There's an oxymoron for you...NCAA regulations!!!!

39 with a wind chill of 30 and currently raining in Kenosha!! Mother Nature is ticked off for some reason. Wind chill in May?????
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 12, 2006, 09:20:05 am
Friday: Rain early...then remaining cloudy with showers in the afternoon. Cold. High 43F. Winds NW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch.

Friday night: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Low around 40F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%.

Saturday: Cloudy with occasional rain showers. High 47F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%.

Saturday night: Cloudy with showers. Low 41F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%.

Sunday (24 hours): Chance of showers. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the upper 40s.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 12, 2006, 10:13:38 am
Kenosh, at least the half closest to Lake Michigan, has a habit of going from winter into summer, all the while skipping spring.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 12, 2006, 12:09:43 pm
It is currently not raining in Kenosha right now, we'll see how long that lasts!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: 79jaybird on May 12, 2006, 01:37:44 pm
Does anybody know why Clark Jones is stepping down at Elmhurst?  I played for Clark Jones and would like to find out why he's leaving.   ???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on May 12, 2006, 01:40:25 pm
From the Carthage website....

Thursday and Friday Games at the CCIW Baseball Tournament Rained Out; Single-Elimination Tournament Now Starts on Saturday at 10 a.m.

The Thursday and Friday, May 11-12 games at the CCIW Baseball Tournament in Kenosha, Wis., have been rained out.  The tournament,, now a single-elimination, nine-inning event, will get underway on Saturday, May 13 at 10 a.m. with Carthage against North Park University, and Augustana College (Ill.) taking on Illinois Wesleyan University 30 minutes after the completion of game #1.  The championship game will be played on Sunday, May 14, also at 10 a.m., with the possibility of a tournament-consolation game to follow, weather permitting.


Now who does Augie (the coach) throw in game one??  Evosovich has been Carthage's most effective pitcher versus both IWU and Augie?  Do you throw him in game one or save him for the championship game?  If you save him, are you slighting NP even though you've already beaten them three games this season by a combined 32-4 margin?  OR, do you throw Evosovich in game one and then throw Husing, Olson and Livek at whoever's left?

Who will IWU and Augie (the school) throw in game 1?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 12, 2006, 02:04:23 pm
Does anybody know why Clark Jones is stepping down at Elmhurst?  I played for Clark Jones and would like to find out why he's leaving.   ???

Perhaps he was spending too much time posting.
http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?action=profile;u=13413;sa=showPosts
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 12, 2006, 03:30:54 pm
Jaybird...coach Jones made a complete fool of himself on this website. He was posting and pretending to be someone else.

Not the brightest bulb in the box!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 12, 2006, 04:04:31 pm
From the Carthage website....

Thursday and Friday Games at the CCIW Baseball Tournament Rained Out; Single-Elimination Tournament Now Starts on Saturday at 10 a.m.

The Thursday and Friday, May 11-12 games at the CCIW Baseball Tournament in Kenosha, Wis., have been rained out.  The tournament,, now a single-elimination, nine-inning event, will get underway on Saturday, May 13 at 10 a.m. with Carthage against North Park University, and Augustana College (Ill.) taking on Illinois Wesleyan University 30 minutes after the completion of game #1.  The championship game will be played on Sunday, May 14, also at 10 a.m., with the possibility of a tournament-consolation game to follow, weather permitting.


Now who does Augie (the coach) throw in game one??  Evosovich has been Carthage's most effective pitcher versus both IWU and Augie?  Do you throw him in game one or save him for the championship game?  If you save him, are you slighting NP even though you've already beaten them three games this season by a combined 32-4 margin?  OR, do you throw Evosovich in game one and then throw Husing, Olson and Livek at whoever's left?

Who will IWU and Augie (the school) throw in game 1?

We were wondering about this earlier a few days back, not that its single elimination it really gets interesting. If it was my choice, i still think I would go with Olson or Husing against NP. Not saying they are looking past them, but all 3 pitchers did well against NP and Evosovich by far had the best game against Augie. If I was Augie (school), I absolutely have to go with my ace against IWU because not only is it single elimination, but I woul d say they still have to feel like they have to win one game to be almost assured of an at large bid, IMO
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 12, 2006, 05:16:20 pm
We went with Dusty Reid instead of Danny Grybash in the first game in Mississippi in 2003. Needless to say we didn't win! Dusty pitched a hell of a game but the mindset was never the same after losing the opener.

You go with your best and the rest will fall into place. I covered HS baseball for the Daily Herald for 15 years and it completely amazed me every year in the IHSA playoffs when HS coaches would think they could sneak by the first game by using someone other than their number one!

BIG mistake at every level!

You keep dancing by dancing with the one that brung ya!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on May 12, 2006, 05:19:17 pm
Does anybody know why Clark Jones is stepping down at Elmhurst?  I played for Clark Jones and would like to find out why he's leaving.   ???

Rumor on the street is that he was asked to resign in lieu of being canned.  That's why he is leaving, as far as I have heard.  As to the reasons for that, well, the terms of use for this board prevent going too far here.  Does pulling the seniors on senior day sound right to anyone?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 12, 2006, 05:49:17 pm
Irish,

I agree with you for the most part, but Olson and Husing also did very well against NP, and I think that's a huge part of the thinking I'm using. Its not like they are playing a team they are not familiar with, they just played NP i believe 2 weeks ago. If at all in anyway Augie thinks that if he pitches Olson or Husing that his players might think they are looking past NP, then I would say go with Evosovich. However, if he believes he can tell them that all 3 had success against NP and he has faith in Olson or Husing, and the guys think about what he's trying to do, then I think it would work fine. Remember, we went with Heinig (our 3 last year) against Augie in the first game of the tourney last year because of how well he did against them.  Either way, bottom line, Carthage is very fortunate to have 3 (4 with Livek) pitchers that have been reliable all year. (I'm almost postive the 4 are 24-3 on the year just thinking from the top of my head). No matter who they decide to start, we know it will be someone with great numbers who had success against NP just a few weeks ago. Irish, are you or your favorite redmen going to make it up at all tomorrow or Sunday??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 12, 2006, 05:59:07 pm
RMF...Patrick went to Ft. Worth yesterday to watch the season opening series for Danny Grybash's minor league team - The Ft. Worth Cats. He called and told me Fergie Jenkins threw out the first pitch at the season opener last night!

I've been thinking about coming up just to get some Augieism's. The internet comment he made to Gene Walther at Concordia was just an instant classic!!

It was real weird at Concordia. Outside of Warren and Andy Jacques, there is no one left from Patrick's senior year. Evo was on that team but didn't make the trip to Concordia.

It will have to be much warmer than the past two days to get me up to Kenosha-by-the-sea!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: diehardfan on May 12, 2006, 07:41:34 pm
This is a little outdated, but I couldn't resist.

Wheaton conference standings for the last six years:

2001- last
2002 - last
2003 - 7th
2004 - 7th
2005 - 7th
2006 - 4thT

Improvement ladies and gentlemen!  :) ;D 8)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 12, 2006, 07:44:36 pm
Irish i know what you mean,

I've went to a few of their practices just to hang out with the guys this year and knew only about half of them, and i just played last year!! But its a great group of guys who have come together very well and are a fun group to watch. What was Aug's quote on the internet?? I know in the paper he said "I know people are getting tired of me saying we're not that good and we're 31-7, but I just feel like there is a lot more things that we can be doing better." I got the word on who's pitching tomorrow...obviously I can't share that info before the game!! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 12, 2006, 10:19:47 pm
RMF...look at the bottom of my posts. His quote is at the bottom. But now I have a new one. I was just watching the original Bad News Bears. There are some great one-liners in that movie!

In case you missed it...

"We look a lot better on the internet than we do in person" - Augie Schmidt responding to a friend when he said he had been following the Redmen on the website.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: someone12 on May 13, 2006, 01:55:19 am
wow i think wheaton deserves a little more respect than that.  they did have 8 one run games and at least 5 more 2 run games that one less error or one extra hit could have put them in the W category.  not to mention nearly sweeping augustana and pretty much being the only team to hit evosevich well.  neadless to say, i believe wheaton deserves a little more respect than that last post.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 13, 2006, 10:02:12 am
As this present weather system lingers over the upper midwest, consider this -- the Minnesota legislature is pondering the merits of a funding bill for an OPEN AIR baseball stadium.

Yes, in Minnesota, where the Twins last night beat the White Sox in the Dome, and outside it was rain and 39 degrees.

That would have been a postponed game, rather than a rare win over Chicago.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: AUpitch104k on May 13, 2006, 10:26:22 am
We went with Dusty Reid instead of Danny Grybash in the first game in Mississippi in 2003. Needless to say we didn't win! Dusty pitched a hell of a game but the mindset was never the same after losing the opener.

You go with your best and the rest will fall into place. I covered HS baseball for the Daily Herald for 15 years and it completely amazed me every year in the IHSA playoffs when HS coaches would think they could sneak by the first game by using someone other than their number one!

BIG mistake at every level!

You keep dancing by dancing with the one that brung ya!

What is Dusty doing today? Last time I saw him was at a MLB Scouting Bureau tryout. any clue?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 13, 2006, 12:48:53 pm
Top of the sixth...Redmen 8 Vikings 0

Carthage put up 7 in the first after batting 11 men. Evosevich went the first five now Olson is in.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 13, 2006, 03:49:19 pm
10-1 Redmen victory.

IWU up 3-1 in top of 7th.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 13, 2006, 04:22:27 pm
Bottom of 8th...IWU 4 Augie 1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 13, 2006, 04:55:51 pm
IWU 4 Augie 1

Redmen vs Titans for the CCIW championship tomorrow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2006, 07:06:56 pm
What is Dusty doing today? Last time I saw him was at a MLB Scouting Bureau tryout. any clue?
He's playing a little bit of softball in the small town of West Bloomfield, and is currently playing baseball in the BABA for a team called the Little Falls Loggers.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 14, 2006, 12:12:54 am
2 questions.

What does the weather look like for tomorrow?

What do people think Augie's chances look like?  (My speculation: if Carthage wins, Augie is a near-lock; if IWU wins, Augie may be in trouble - not sure the CCIW would be deemed worthy of 3 teams, but we have no experience with a tourney this size.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on May 14, 2006, 12:05:58 pm
Carthage up 3-2 with Carthage batting in the top of the 4th.

Carthage knocked DuBois out of the game with 5 straight singles to open the game and score 3 runs.

IWU came back and scored 2 in the bottom of the first off of Husing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on May 14, 2006, 02:09:29 pm
Carthage wins 6-4 to win the CCIW automatic bid.

I wouls have to guess that IWU's season is over and that Augie gets a Pool C bid.  31-10 is nothing to sneeze at.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 14, 2006, 02:45:37 pm
Way to go Carthage!

Conference and Conference Tourney--a very nice two-some, indeed, even if the tourney was plagued by weather.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 14, 2006, 03:55:21 pm
Ryan Roufus and Jeff Livek came in and pitched tremendous for the Redmen. Great game to be at. Some of the IWU fans are just hilarious. Talk about complaining and whining, they take it to a whole other level. Steve Rucks smoked a ball at IWU's 3rd basemen and it took a hop and hit him in the head to score two runs, and the guy starts going off on how terrible of a field Carthage has. My guess, it was just because Carthage was pounding the ball the inning.  Don't bad hops happen on major league fields? Anyone who has played at Carthage knows the playing surface itself is good, maybe not the best, but good. And anyone who's played at IWU knows the setup and environment is cool, but the playing surface is very subpar. That field last year for the conference tourney was an embarrassment with the condition it was in. Overall, a great game to watch. Congrats to Carthage, and probably to Augie as well as they most likely will get a bid.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 14, 2006, 04:03:44 pm
Almost forgot, some great Augie lines the past two days.

"How can you be a starting infielder for a college baseball team and not throw a baseball 90 f'ing feet"

"You just did us a huge favor, thanks for plunking our worst hitter!!"-Yelling at the pitcher from NP after he hit Even, one of Carthage's best hitters.

"This is like little league out here, I have no idea what we're doing"

And today his blowup on the home plate umpire for calling a balk that brought in a run tops them all. I can't remember it all, but it was about a 2 minute tyraid that consisted of "I'm so sick of your s**t, you've been doing this to us for 3 f'ing years. How is that a balk, he's been doing it all game. You're just looking for someway to screw us. You know people aren't here to watch you, they're here to watch these kids not you. Everyone here is laughing at you!!"  There was a lot more, but you get the point. CLASSIC AUGIE, that's why we love him.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augiefan on May 14, 2006, 05:19:27 pm
The reality is that only Carthage really deserves an NCAA tourney bid from the CCIW. Augie had a good year, but the pitching just isn't good enough to deserve a tourney bid. The change to single elimination in the CCIW tourney may save them, but it will be a bit of a stretch. Essentially IWU and Augie ended the season as equals pretty far behind Carthage in on the field performance.

I hope Augie gets that bid. Whether they do or not good luck to Carthage. They are good enough to get through the 1st round, and then who knows.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 14, 2006, 05:48:26 pm
RMF...did Augie get tossed? Usually when a coach says stuff like that and doesn't get tossed, the umpire knows he made a mistake.

Congrats to the Redmen, Augie and his staff! Nice to see Carthage back at the top of the CCIW!

Now go out and play like you are capable of playing and get back to Appleton!

Sounds like they looked as good in person as they do on the internet ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 14, 2006, 06:35:32 pm
Irish, no he didn't get tossed, I have absolutely no idea how he didn't.

Augiefan: I don't know much about Augie's pitching depth, but I know their top 2 are outstanding. I believe they only have 2 losses between them now that Setter finally lost a game.  Anyone know what time the pairings are released?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 14, 2006, 06:45:08 pm
Augiefan...have you followed them this year at all?  They have the 10th best batting average in the nation and a 3.36 team ERA which falls somewhere around 35th in the nation.  Please, do a little bit of looking first before you say that this team doesn't have good enough pitching to deserve a bid.  Here are a look at their top two pitchers...let me know if these are still non-deserving numbers:

Andrew Setter

9-1; 1.54 ERA; 7 CG; 73 K to 19 BB in 81.2 IP

Kevin Kuntz

7-2; 1.39 ERA; 4 CG; only 40 hits in 58.1 IP (.189 batting average against)


Those are some deserving numbers...here are the other 3 main pitchers...still some pretty decent stuff:

Engle
4-4; 3.05 ERA; 53 IP

Gwost
4-2; 4.44 ERA; 50.2 IP

Schref
4-1; 4.71 ERA; 42 IP


I really don't see your reasoning as to why the pitching has made Augie not deserve a bid.  Please, explain yourself because you have me very curious.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 14, 2006, 06:50:15 pm
Superfan, thanks for clarifying, i didn't know their number 2 had lost another game, but he actually has the lowest era. I think if you go 31-10, have beaten the number 8 team in the country, and have the 10th best hitting team statistically, how could you not get at large bid?? (unless IWU would have won today, I would have to think Augie would have been out of luck)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 14, 2006, 06:50:34 pm
I realize this is awfully late to raise an objection, but could posters please refer to Coach Schmidt when talking about Carthage?!  With constant references to Augie, I'm going to start wondering about the collegiate loyalties of augiefan and augie_superfan, among others! ;D

(signed) a confused fan of the team that came close today, but whose season is no doubt over.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 14, 2006, 10:59:02 pm
Mr. Ypsi -- Having gone to school with his dad, and later a colleague, I always knew the guy as Little Augie.

Knowing the son as I do, I'm quite sure I could still call him Little Augie without offending him.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 15, 2006, 01:19:51 am
Congrats to Carthage upon winning the CCIW title.

As I pretty much expected, NPU didn't fare well in the conference tournament. But just making the conference tournament itself was a major victory for a Vikings program that had totally hit the skids over the past few seasons. April posted this weekend about how much Wheaton had improved. Well, try this on for size -- here's North Park's season results over the last six seasons:

2001: 4-17, 5-35-1 (7th CCIW)
2002: 8-13, 11-29 (6th CCIW)
2003: 2-19, 3-34 (8th CCIW)
2004: 0-21, 2-35-1 (8th CCIW)
2005: 1-20, 1-39 (8th CCIW)
2006: 8-13, 14-27 (4th CCIW)

That's a pretty dramatic turnaround for the Park in Luke Johnson's first year at the helm -- and he didn't even have the benefit of a full recruiting period with which to begin reconstructing what had once been a very good CCIW baseball program during the Bosko Djurickovic era.

NPU still has a ways to go, obviously. This year the Vikings proved that they could beat everyone else in the pack, but they posted a dismal 0-10 record against the CCIW's Big Three, with only a couple of those losses being close. Johnson's next task is to build up the roster to get the Vikings to the point where they can give Carthage, Augustana, and Illinois Wesleyan a run for their money.

I'm really impressed with Johnson and with the job he's done. NPU made a great hire when they brought him aboard last summer. I look forward to seeing what he can do with the Vikings in 2007.
Title: Carthage sent to St Louis.
Post by: mwunder on May 15, 2006, 08:50:27 am
Hosted by Washington University in St. Louis, St. Louis, Missouri
1. Carthage (33-7)
2. Millsaps (34-11)
3. Washington-U. in St. Louis (34-5)
4. Aurora (29-11)
5. Webster (26-16)
6. Mount St. Joseph (28-15)


Too bad it wasn't closer to home..
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 15, 2006, 10:03:21 am
Well, St. Louis is a lot better than being shipped to Mississippi! Anyone know any info about the other teams other than their records? We are all fairly familiar with aurora, but I don't know much at all about any of the other schools.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: AUpitch104k on May 15, 2006, 10:59:59 am
Well with the way Chapple and Salter pitched in the conference tourney they should be fired up for some good games in the regional. Both need to have bounce back appearances. They are lucky to have received the at large, now hopefully they can do something with that. I would love to see another AU Carthage Championship game. Go Spartans.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2006, 12:29:54 pm
Well, St. Louis is a lot better than being shipped to Mississippi! Anyone know any info about the other teams other than their records? We are all fairly familiar with aurora, but I don't know much at all about any of the other schools.

Millsaps shortstop, Drew Wetzel, was the pre-season National Player of the Year. Millsaps is a solid squad with some great players.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 15, 2006, 12:40:24 pm
In regionals, obviously pitching depth becomes a huge factor.  Also equally important is how fast your top 2 pitchers can recover. If they threw Wednesday, do you have a guy with a rubber band arm that can throw Saturday? If you do, that can be huge. Carthage's top 4 are very good, and Roufus has proved this year he is very solid out of the bullpen as well. Krepline has had a solid year (I believe he's 4-1). After that, Carthage has some guys that I know can throw the ball well, they just have barely gotten much of a chance to this year besides the Florida trip. The 7-10 guys don't throw quite as hard as say an Olson, Livek, or Husing, but they throw strikes and if called upon this weekend I think can get the job done
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 15, 2006, 12:48:23 pm
Well too bad Augustana did not make it.  They certaintly had a very good season but came up just short in the end.  Good luck to Carthage in the regionals.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on May 15, 2006, 01:06:57 pm
Does anyone know if Wash U has lights?  Looking at their website and by the game times I would say no.  I was under the impression that Carthage lost out hosting because of no lights. 

Wetzel was drafted by the Rockies in the 10th round.  Interesting that Baseball America shows him as signing for $58K.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2006, 01:21:15 pm
Wash U does NOT Have lights... I think they were chosen to ost because of a central location. Millsaps would have a easier time getting there and the other teams centrally located to St. Louis. Where is Mt. St. Joseph's from?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on May 15, 2006, 01:39:51 pm
Mt St Joe's is in Cincinnati and won the Heartland Conference.  Don't know much about them, just got that info from their website.  From looking at their stats, they look kind of average, no stud pitcher.  No common opponents from any CCIW schools. 

When's Carthage getting lights?  I heard they have plans ot put them up.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on May 15, 2006, 02:13:59 pm
Well, St. Louis is a lot better than being shipped to Mississippi! Anyone know any info about the other teams other than their records? We are all fairly familiar with aurora, but I don't know much at all about any of the other schools.

IWU beat Millsaps twice on their spring trip.  IWU beat one of Millsaps top 2 pitchers, Kindler.  He finished the year at 9-2.  Don't really know alot about them.

I also know that 2 of Wash U's 5 losses were to Elmhurst.   

This regional should come down to Aurora and Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 15, 2006, 04:30:47 pm
I don't really know much about any of the teams playing in St. Louis except for the Millsaps team.  Because of that, I don't think I could make a claim that the region should come down to just 2 teams, especially two teams that are likely to play each other in the second round.

Carthage looks like the team with the deepest pitching which should make them the favorites but I suspect that several teams are capable of winning this regional.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 15, 2006, 04:45:52 pm
I don't know exactly when Carthage will get lights. I know that their field is starting to get used quite a bit as well in the summer over the the past few years, and will be again this summer. Hopefully in the next year or so they have lights, as well as a pressbox and a new scoreboard.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2006, 05:01:03 pm
I don't really know much about any of the teams playing in St. Louis except for the Millsaps team.  Because of that, I don't think I could make a claim that the region should come down to just 2 teams, especially two teams that are likely to play each other in the second round.

Carthage looks like the team with the deepest pitching which should make them the favorites but I suspect that several teams are capable of winning this regional.

NEVER underestimate ANYONE at tournament time. I am a Carthage fan, but this regional scares me more than any other I have seen because I know very little about any of the other teams. Some teams may get in simply because they have a nasty #1 pitcher who does not lose and that always causes problems for the top ranked teams.

Anything can happen... and it usually does. This is going to be a great post-season this year due to the high number of unknown varaibles still playing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bluejay Blue on May 15, 2006, 05:29:25 pm
Does anyone have an idea who will replace Jones @ Elmhurst ?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on May 15, 2006, 06:30:17 pm
Does anyone have an idea who will replace Jones @ Elmhurst ?

I think Luke Johnson(NPU) would be a good choice. He is an Elmhurst alum and proved he can win at NPU.

I have also heard rumors of a former CCIW player currently coaching in California. I am not sure on the name.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augiefan on May 15, 2006, 07:27:49 pm
I too am sorry to see Augie did not get a bid, but it was not surprising. SuperFan asked me to defend my position that a bid might not have been earned. Here goes:

1. Losing nonconference games to Rockford and Alma (Bad)

2. Losing 2 out of 3 to Wheaton (Really Bad)

3. Losing 2 out of 3 to Cathage (Not bad but it set the stage and ultimately helped confirm Carthage to be the class of the CCIW).

4. Losing to NCC 6-1 at the end of the regular season (Hurt their chances).

5. Splitting 4 games with IWU capped by losing in the CCIW tourney (Virtually guaranteed no bid for Augie with Carthage winning the title game).

6. Other than two excellent pitchers, the rest of the pitching staff struggled big time (Not Good).

All in all a good season for Augie, but not one deserving of a DIII World Series opportunity. I think if they had beaten IWU, they would have been invited, but with the bid on the line they came up short. Regretably the tournament committee agreed. I know some of my posts piss of the Augie faithful, and I would much rather drink Blue & Gold kool aid, but I try to be objective.

Good luck to Carthage. They have the talent to go a long way.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2006, 07:50:31 pm
I too am sorry to see Augie did not get a bid, but it was not surprising. SuperFan asked me to defend my position that a bid might not have been earned. Here goes:

1. Losing nonconference games to Rockford and Alma (Bad)

2. Losing 2 out of 3 to Wheaton (Really Bad)

3. Losing 2 out of 3 to Cathage (Not bad but it set the stage and ultimately helped confirm Carthage to be the class of the CCIW).

4. Losing to NCC 6-1 at the end of the regular season (Hurt their chances).

5. Splitting 4 games with IWU capped by losing in the CCIW tourney (Virtually guaranteed no bid for Augie with Carthage winning the title game).

6. Other than two excellent pitchers, the rest of the pitching staff struggled big time (Not Good).

All in all a good season for Augie, but not one deserving of a DIII World Series opportunity. I think if they had beaten IWU, they would have been invited, but with the bid on the line they came up short. Regretably the tournament committee agreed. I know some of my posts piss of the Augie faithful, and I would much rather drink Blue & Gold kool aid, but I try to be objective.

Good luck to Carthage. They have the talent to go a long way.



Positive karma for the honesty. True fans see teams for what they are, not what they want them to be.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 15, 2006, 08:12:29 pm
I too am sorry to see Augie did not get a bid, but it was not surprising. SuperFan asked me to defend my position that a bid might not have been earned. Here goes:

1. Losing nonconference games to Rockford and Alma (Bad)

2. Losing 2 out of 3 to Wheaton (Really Bad)

3. Losing 2 out of 3 to Cathage (Not bad but it set the stage and ultimately helped confirm Carthage to be the class of the CCIW).

4. Losing to NCC 6-1 at the end of the regular season (Hurt their chances).

5. Splitting 4 games with IWU capped by losing in the CCIW tourney (Virtually guaranteed no bid for Augie with Carthage winning the title game).

6. Other than two excellent pitchers, the rest of the pitching staff struggled big time (Not Good).

All in all a good season for Augie, but not one deserving of a DIII World Series opportunity. I think if they had beaten IWU, they would have been invited, but with the bid on the line they came up short. Regretably the tournament committee agreed. I know some of my posts piss of the Augie faithful, and I would much rather drink Blue & Gold kool aid, but I try to be objective.

Good luck to Carthage. They have the talent to go a long way.




Well, those are good points and obviously reasons for them not making it.  However, those reasons are not what started this conversation.  You claimed that their PITCHING didn't deserve the bid.  Then I put forth the stats of the 5 most used pitchers.  So, in my opinion, you didn't prove anything by listing these points up here that would verify your original statement.  And I think you point #6 above is just overstated.  You are telling me that the rest of the pitching staff struggled BIG TIME??  That is just crazy.  Did you ever play Division III baseball, have you ever followed it really closely before this message board was created?  A 4.00 ERA in a conference such as the CCIW is hardly BIG TIME struggling for college baseball.  Go look up a team like Rowan, a team that was probably one of the last Pool C's.  They have team pitching statistics that are almost exactly the same as Augustana.  Obviously the selection comittee found them to be deserving.  The difference between Augustana and Rowan was most likely that Rowan played tougher competition throughout the year and that made up for their lower record.  So, if you'd like another chance, please explain to me why the PITCHING was not deserving.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2006, 08:34:33 pm
Watch my karma drop after this one:

I have stated repeatedly on this board that teams that do not get in the NCAAs do not have a reason to complain. They all had a chance to get in on the field and failed. Do I think Augustana should be in?... yes... are they?...no. Who is to blame for that one? Certainly not the NCAA as Augustana simply left their fate in someone else's hands and it did not work out. You are rolling the dice when you do not win your conference. Blame the other favorites that did not win their tourneys and took your at large Pool C bid.

Go ahead and ding me Augie fans... I expect it. Now... I have talked about the elephant in the room that everyone else ignored.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: diehardfan on May 15, 2006, 08:35:54 pm
wow i think wheaton deserves a little more respect than that.  they did have 8 one run games and at least 5 more 2 run games that one less error or one extra hit could have put them in the W category.  not to mention nearly sweeping augustana and pretty much being the only team to hit evosevich well.  neadless to say, i believe wheaton deserves a little more respect than that last post.

Uh oh, I didn't mean that as an insult at all... trust me, I am quite the diehard Wheaton fan... some of these posters can vouch for my insanity over on the other boards  :D Baseball has always been one of my favorite sports to watch, and I went to more than a few baseball games in my day, when they were muuch worse than they were this past year. As a Wheaton alum I'mook forward to the idea of Wheaton's growing competitiveness in a sport I enjoy so much, that's all.

Congrats to Carthage upon winning the CCIW title.

As I pretty much expected, NPU didn't fare well in the conference tournament. But just making the conference tournament itself was a major victory for a Vikings program that had totally hit the skids over the past few seasons. April posted this weekend about how much Wheaton had improved. Well, try this on for size -- here's North Park's season results over the last six seasons:

2001: 4-17, 5-35-1 (7th CCIW)
2002: 8-13, 11-29 (6th CCIW)
2003: 2-19, 3-34 (8th CCIW)
2004: 0-21, 2-35-1 (8th CCIW)
2005: 1-20, 1-39 (8th CCIW)
2006: 8-13, 14-27 (4th CCIW)

That's a pretty dramatic turnaround for the Park in Luke Johnson's first year at the helm -- and he didn't even have the benefit of a full recruiting period with which to begin reconstructing what had once been a very good CCIW baseball program during the Bosko Djurickovic era.

Well, I hardly think the facilities change hurt? Wheaton improved without it. (Unless, somehow, I missed the news that we actually built a stadium.  ??? :'( I think that's pretty big.

I too am sorry to see Augie did not get a bid, but it was not surprising. SuperFan asked me to defend my position that a bid might not have been earned. Here goes...
Positive karma for the honesty. True fans see teams for what they are, not what they want them to be.

That's why we love him  :) ;) :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 15, 2006, 09:23:26 pm
Watch my karma drop after this one:

I have stated repeatedly on this board that teams that do not get in the NCAAs do not have a reason to complain. They all had a chance to get in on the field and failed. Do I think Augustana should be in?... yes... are they?...no. Who is to blame for that one? Certainly not the NCAA as Augustana simply left their fate in someone else's hands and it did not work out. You are rolling the dice when you do not win your conference. Blame the other favorites that did not win their tourneys and took your at large Pool C bid.

Go ahead and ding me Augie fans... I expect it. Now... I have talked about the elephant in the room that everyone else ignored.



I don't think anyone is going to argue with you BigPoppa....Augustana had a few games over the course of the season that they should have won and they didn't.  I hope you aren't taking my previous post as saying Augie should be in.  I really really wish they were in but we don't have enough selection information to decide if they should've been in over someone else.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 15, 2006, 10:39:50 pm
My post was not directed at Augustana, but to all the teams complaining today. It just happened to fall after the post about Augie.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augiefan on May 15, 2006, 10:49:13 pm
Perhaps I was a little unfair to Augie's pitching staff, but it's hard to blame the excellent hitting or fielding for their failure to get a bid. They did have great pitching in the Carthage series, but wasted all their runs in one game. However, of the 3 categories pitching seemed to be the weakness.

Setter, Kuntz and Engle did their part, but the rest of the staff struggled. The good thing is Kuntz and Engle will be back next year. Again we're talking a tournament calibre pitching staff. And yes Wheaton was much improved this year, but the number two team in the CCIW should have won 2 of 3 in that series.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 16, 2006, 05:16:27 am
Well, I hardly think the facilities change hurt? Wheaton improved without it.

Trust me, NPU's baseball field is nobody's idea of a state-of-the-art D3 facility. The dugouts are better than the old ones, and the field now has lights, but the Park isn't recruiting baseball players based upon the primo facilities. I'd be shocked if any of the new players that Luke Johnson brought in this past year cited the baseball field as one of the reasons why they chose to attend NPU.

If anything, the fact that the baseball players have to share the field with their schoolmates on the softball team (different diamond, same field), whose season runs concurrently, means that the cramped facilities at North Park are as much of a drawback as they ever were. The program that benefits the most by far from the Holmgren Athletic Complex makeover is the football team.

Worse, the baseball Vikings are still forced to practice in the gym during inclement weather and in preseason workouts as they wait for the snow to melt. If there is going to be a tangible difference in NPU's ability to recruit baseball players based upon facilities, it'll come after the new Helwig Recreation Center is opened next fall -- since that facility will allow the team to take fielding and batting practice on an indoor Field Turf surface identical to the one at the Holmgren Athletic Complex.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 16, 2006, 09:39:40 am
The entire field...

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/NCAAChampionship/2006/Regionals/Seeds.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 16, 2006, 11:39:37 am
Irish... good to see you are still out there. I was getting worried. Are you going to catch a game in St. Louis this weekend?

I don't know about you, but this regional scares me because of the unknown teams involved... Millsaps and Mt. St. Joes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: TitanRailer on May 16, 2006, 11:44:16 am
I too am sorry to see Augie did not get a bid, but it was not surprising. SuperFan asked me to defend my position that a bid might not have been earned. Here goes:

1. Losing nonconference games to Rockford and Alma (Bad)

2. Losing 2 out of 3 to Wheaton (Really Bad)

3. Losing 2 out of 3 to Cathage (Not bad but it set the stage and ultimately helped confirm Carthage to be the class of the CCIW).

4. Losing to NCC 6-1 at the end of the regular season (Hurt their chances).

5. Splitting 4 games with IWU capped by losing in the CCIW tourney (Virtually guaranteed no bid for Augie with Carthage winning the title game).

6. Other than two excellent pitchers, the rest of the pitching staff struggled big time (Not Good).

All in all a good season for Augie, but not one deserving of a DIII World Series opportunity. I think if they had beaten IWU, they would have been invited, but with the bid on the line they came up short. Regretably the tournament committee agreed. I know some of my posts piss of the Augie faithful, and I would much rather drink Blue & Gold kool aid, but I try to be objective.

Good luck to Carthage. They have the talent to go a long way.




Well, those are good points and obviously reasons for them not making it.  However, those reasons are not what started this conversation.  You claimed that their PITCHING didn't deserve the bid.  Then I put forth the stats of the 5 most used pitchers.  So, in my opinion, you didn't prove anything by listing these points up here that would verify your original statement.  And I think you point #6 above is just overstated.  You are telling me that the rest of the pitching staff struggled BIG TIME??  That is just crazy.  Did you ever play Division III baseball, have you ever followed it really closely before this message board was created?  A 4.00 ERA in a conference such as the CCIW is hardly BIG TIME struggling for college baseball.  Go look up a team like Rowan, a team that was probably one of the last Pool C's.  They have team pitching statistics that are almost exactly the same as Augustana.  Obviously the selection comittee found them to be deserving.  The difference between Augustana and Rowan was most likely that Rowan played tougher competition throughout the year and that made up for their lower record.  So, if you'd like another chance, please explain to me why the PITCHING was not deserving.

Please look at the pitching in the 9 regional losses.  Augie pitchers gave up an average of 6.5 runs per game, including double digits three times.  So, it is safe to say Augie pitching struggled, at times, when it counted.  Although in year's past your comments would hold true, don't over-estimate the CCIW this year.  Only three teams had winning records and 4th place was 8-13.  

Although a good overall record, unfortunately, we know in D3, only region games count, and 9 in-region losses is tough to ignore.  I have trouble with Rowan getting a bid.  I know I haven't seen them play, but the entire selection process is an ON-PAPER process and, on-paper, Augie appears to be the better team.    
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: matblake on May 16, 2006, 12:28:37 pm
Here are all the teams websites from the regional

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325
http://www.millsaps.edu/athletic/baseball/index.shtml
http://www.aurora.edu/athletics/baseball
http://www.msj.edu/athletics/mens/baseball/index.asp
http://bearsports.wustl.edu/baseball/baseball.html
http://www.webster.edu/athletics/mbaseball/main.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 16, 2006, 01:22:04 pm
Just read the sports page today, and Augie is not very thrilled about being the 7th ranked team in the country and having to travel to St. Louis. The paper stated that this is like a flashback from the 2002 squad when they were ranked 2nd in the country and got shipped to mississippi. Its clear in the article that his biggest problem with the decision for Wash U. to host is that they don't have lights, and he tought a field had to have lights in order to host a 6 team regional. He stated that Carthage could have hosted a 6 team regional easily.

Also, for any of you who have access to the kenosha news, there is a classic picture of Augie in yesterdays paper in the umpires grill with his finger right in his face.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: 79jaybird on May 16, 2006, 01:39:43 pm
"Why did Clark Jones leave"

Thanks to those who replied.  I agree that if a Coach is spending too much time in areas where he "shouldn't be and/or shouldn't care"  then you aren't spending enough time where it does matter.
Irish21-- You are right on.  I like Coach Jones, but he can be "out there" sometimes with his actions and mannerisms.
Good luck to the CCIW in the post-season.  Hopefully our guys play better than the *** Cubs!  My beloved Cubbies made me sick with 3 errors in 1 inning, then 2 Wild Pitches in a row to bring home runs.  Ugh!  Baker/Rotchschild/half the team has to go!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 16, 2006, 02:26:55 pm
Just read the sports page today, and Augie is not very thrilled about being the 7th ranked team in the country and having to travel to St. Louis. The paper stated that this is like a flashback from the 2002 squad when they were ranked 2nd in the country and got shipped to mississippi. Its clear in the article that his biggest problem with the decision for Wash U. to host is that they don't have lights, and he tought a field had to have lights in order to host a 6 team regional. He stated that Carthage could have hosted a 6 team regional easily.

Also, for any of you who have access to the kenosha news, there is a classic picture of Augie in yesterdays paper in the umpires grill with his finger right in his face.

Augie has a way of getting his players re-focused on the game at the right time. He will use the St. Louis thing to motivate his players. Only Augie can make a #1 seed feel like they need to have a chip on their shoulder.
I was also surprised that Wash U hosted without lights. Any rain will certainly upset the weekend. They should reward the #1 or #2 seed with the hosting. If #1 refuses, give it to #2 and so on down the road. It would make the #1 seed much more valuable.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 16, 2006, 02:57:53 pm
I think Augustana's biggest weakness was the defense.  They only fielded .946 and 34% of their run were unearned...that can hurt.  Also, you mentioned that the pitching staff gave up about 6.5 runs per game but that is not taking into account unearned runs.  I think they actually gave up 37 ER in the 9 games...not completely sure I counted that right though.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 16, 2006, 03:07:33 pm
I think Augustana's biggest weakness was the defense.  They only fielded .946 and 34% of their run were unearned...that can hurt.  Also, you mentioned that the pitching staff gave up about 6.5 runs per game but that is not taking into account unearned runs.  I think they actually gave up 37 ER in the 9 games...not completely sure I counted that right though.

To look for a silver lining here, I bet if someone were to tell Augie that they were going to be a bubble team at the start of the season, they would have taken that season. They had a GREAT year. Another thing is that they now know exactly what needs to be done to get to the next level. I look for Augustana to be a major player in the CCIW, if not the nation, next year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 16, 2006, 03:21:23 pm
Does anyone know if games will be able to be played Sunday if the weather does not cooperate. When is the deadline to have a winner in the regional?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on May 16, 2006, 03:21:30 pm
Adding to Auguie's defensive woes was the catching.  Opponents were 60-69 in SB's against them.  They have two top notch catchers coming in next year.  
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 16, 2006, 04:32:07 pm
I think the regionals need to be completed by Monday night...it is somewhere in the handbook, I'm too lazy to look it up right now.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 16, 2006, 08:18:59 pm
The CCIW All-Conference teams have been announced:

http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/2006bballconferenceteam-1.htm

Congratulations to North Park Head Coach Luke Johnson for being named "Coach of the Year."  He is very deserving of the accolades, not only for the improvement of this year's Viking squad, but also for his tireless work in preparing the players in every facet of the game.

Also recognized were Viking outfielder Pat Zarilla and DH Mike Kuta, both of whom were named to the second team.

Carthage's Scott Evosevich and Augustana's Andrew Setter were named co-pitchers of the year -- both outstanding choices -- and Elmhurst's Anthony Contaldo was player of the year.

Congratulations to all the players who were honored!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on May 16, 2006, 08:33:16 pm
The CCIW All-Conference teams have been announced:

Congratulations to North Park Head Coach Luke Johnson for being named "Coach of the Year."  He is very deserving of the accolades, not only for the improvement of this year's Viking squad, but also for his tireless work in preparing the players in every facet of the game.

Carthage's Scott Evosevich and Augustana's Andrew Setter were named co-pitchers of the year -- both outstanding choices -- and Elmhurst's Anthony Contaldo was player of the year.


Again congrats to all.  Great to see Contaldo bring some attention to the Jays this year, along with EC alum Johnson. 
Setter, who I believe is from Rockford, helps to prove that some pretty decent players come from the NIC-9, which I believe is an under-recruited conference.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Cooler King on May 16, 2006, 08:36:13 pm

 I'd be shocked if any of the new players that Luke Johnson brought in this past year cited the baseball field as one of the reasons why they chose to attend NPU.

As I've said before in a post, being a former CCIW lefty, a solid NPU squad would have made the Holmgren Field a nice place to hit for four years.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 16, 2006, 08:41:17 pm
Congratulations to all the all conference players. Looking at stats alone, I think Jeff Livek deserved 2nd team, but he just didn't pitch enough in the conference because Carthage's starters almost always went complete games.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 16, 2006, 09:25:15 pm
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Augie has a way of getting his players re-focused on the game at the right time. He will use the St. Louis thing to motivate his players. Only Augie can make a #1 seed feel like they need to have a chip on their shoulder.
I was also surprised that Wash U hosted without lights. Any rain will certainly upset the weekend. They should reward the #1 or #2 seed with the hosting. If #1 refuses, give it to #2 and so on down the road. It would make the #1 seed much more valuable.
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My understanding of hosting a regional is this: You have to put in a bid to host prior to the start of the season or at least midway through the season. You can't put in a bid once you find out you are going to get in the tournament. This subject was brought up when we were shipped to Mississippi in 2003. That team really got screwed.

St. Louis is not bad and up until 2001, Carthage would play in a weekend tournament down there so I don't see it being that big of a deal. Augie using it as motivation is pure Augie - he loves St. Louis!

We faced Millsaps in MS in 2003 and they pulled off the upset of the tournament. The Red people are 2-4 against them. It's time to get even!!

From the Carthage media guide...

Carthage lost both ends of a 1986 twinbill to the Majors in Jackson, Miss., won a 1987 game, and split a pair of games in 1988.  Millsaps defeated Carthage, 4-2, on May 15, 2003 in the first round of the NCAA Division III Central Region Baseball Championship in Clinton, Miss.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 17, 2006, 02:02:59 am
As I've said before in a post, being a former CCIW lefty, a solid NPU squad would have made the Holmgren Field a nice place to hit for four years.

That cuts both ways, of course. If you're a left-handed hitter, you salivate at the sight of the football bleachers that provide such a short porch in right field at Holmgren Athletic Complex. But left and center fields are Death Valley, so unless you have opposite-field power you'd have to resign yourself to not hitting any dingers at home if you were a right-handed hitter thinking of attending the Park. And the prospect of giving up cheap homers to right field certainly isn't going to entice any pitchers to enroll at NPU in and of itself.

Speaking of which, let me add my congrats to NPU coach Luke Johnson upon being named CCIW Coach of the Year. Not a bad accomplishment in his very first season as a head coach!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2006, 03:13:47 am
Wash U is in a central location and everyone can bus there. That's why they're hosting.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 17, 2006, 06:21:25 am
And, St. Louis doesn't have an enormous weather machine altering conditions.

It can be 80 degrees in Kenosha County, but even a slight easterly wind (or NE or SE) will make air temp in the low 50s on Carthage campus.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 17, 2006, 11:26:46 am
Does Carthage have any webcast set up or even live stats? 

It's 2006, couldn't Washington U at least provide live stats if they are going to host a regional tournament?  The NCAA should ask for the hosts to provide a little bit more than just a convenient location.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2006, 11:30:07 am
Carthage is updating the game every inning on the sports hot-line 262.551.5388

0-0 after the 1st inning.

I was also hoping that Wash U would have it webcast.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 17, 2006, 11:38:31 am
Thanks BigPoppa.  Keep us informed every so often. 

Is there any way of knowing who Carthage started on the mound.  Consultant indicated that Millsaps might go with a pitch by committee approach today, trying to hold off on Fox and Kindler until later games and tougher teams.  I've seen your discussion on the pros and cons of this tactic.  Judging by the numbers, I would think that Carthage might have a deeper staff and therefore might feel comfortable in going with such an approach.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2006, 11:42:40 am
As of right now, they have not stated who is on the mound for Carthage. I am going to guess it is Evosovich, but stranger things have happened.

I will update as often as I can. You can also access the the Carthage baseball updates that happene each inning with this link:
http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=1&CFID=838126&CFTOKEN=62981666

Enjoy... I hope it works.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on May 17, 2006, 11:44:37 am
Top of the 3rd, Carthage up 3-0
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 17, 2006, 11:58:21 am
Bottom of the 3rd, game tied at 3-all.  Don't you wish you knew the details--I've been spoiled by the internet.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 17, 2006, 12:13:45 pm
Carthage down 5-3 in the bottom of the 4th. I wish I knew what the heck was going on!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 17, 2006, 12:21:08 pm
They are posting a running score on the tournament website under schedule and results.  I emailed the SID and asked if they couldn't put some details under the "Release" link as the game is in progress.  I have no idea if that is possible, if they will do it if it is possible, or if the SID will even see my email any time today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 17, 2006, 12:38:34 pm
Still 5-3, top of the 6th. Paper today said none of Mt. St. joes top 5 pitchers had an ERA under 4.50. Hopefully Carthage can get the bats going!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2006, 12:43:49 pm
Carthage down 6-3 in the 6th...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 17, 2006, 12:46:55 pm
RED, I was just looking that the MSJ stats.  They have 5 pitchers with 6 or more starts.  Their ERA's range from 4.50 to 6.94.  On the other hand, their 3 main relievers have ERA's of 2.10, 1.69 and 0.64 (in order from highest innings pitched to lowest).  

MSJ might be able to hold on if they can keep the lead (now 6-3 in the bottom of the 6th) going into the 7th or 8th inning.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2006, 01:20:37 pm
Carthage ties it 6-6 in the 8th...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2006, 01:39:22 pm
Carthage trailing 7-6 in bottom of the 9th.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2006, 01:43:25 pm
MSJ defeats Carthage 7-6...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 17, 2006, 01:45:18 pm
I understand that Washington U didn't know until the last minute that they would host.

I understand that the NCAA waited till the last minute to pick a spot because they need to save on travel in a sport that doesn't break even.

That being said, what a shame that this regional is so behind in technological possibilities.  A fantastic opening game and no decent way to follow the action.  What a shame.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 17, 2006, 02:10:33 pm
The box score of the Carthage-MSJC game is now on line (check the regional site).  St. Joseph's Meyer hit a solo homer off Jeff Livek in the top of the ninth for the definitive tally, while Tyler Yapp was left stranded at third in the bottom of the inning.  Evosevich worked 8 innings and gave up 6 runs, 5 earned, on 9 hits and a walk.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2006, 02:20:21 pm
The box score of the Carthage-MSJC game is now on line (check the regional site).  St. Joseph's Meyer hit a solo homer off Jeff Livek in the top of the ninth for the definitive tally, while Tyler Yapp was left stranded at third in the bottom of the inning.  Evosevich worked 8 innings and gave up 6 runs, 5 earned, on 9 hits and a walk.

Thanks, Mr. B

Link:
http://bearsports.wustl.edu/baseball/ncaa1.htm

I feel like getting sick... this one hurts. Well, time to find out what Carthage is made of.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 17, 2006, 03:30:16 pm
Wow, long road ahead of Carthage now if they plan on making it to appleton. They threw their ace, and still lost to the 6 seed.  If any team if resilient enough to pull it off, I would say this year's Carthage team is.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2006, 04:09:55 pm
Wow, long road ahead of Carthage now if they plan on making it to appleton. They threw their ace, and still lost to the 6 seed.  If any team if resilient enough to pull it off, I would say this year's Carthage team is.

I think they can do it... Augie builds his teams to be mentally tough and play even harder when the chips are down.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 17, 2006, 04:23:04 pm
I can't believe Carthage lost this one but that is baseball for you.  Looks like MSJ got all the big clutch hits they needed.  They scored 7 runs off of their 10 baserunners.  Looks like Carthage will be playing Webster (I think) tomorrow so that is another game they will be heavily favored in.  Lets hope they can win one for the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Spence on May 17, 2006, 04:27:06 pm
Frank, does that mean they did NOT submit a bid? Interesting...I think we were all surprised they're hosting but that's still a juicy tidbit.

In retrospect, it really does seem like that was the only option. Yahoo maps has Jackson to St. Louis as 497 miles. Still surprised they're not playing at Sauget at the Frontier League stadium there. I guess that speaks to the last minute nature of it.

The same thing might have happened in the south. Barton College is hosting their own tournament in Wilson, so that was out. The Durham Bulls are out of town but I don't know if that would have been cost-prohibitive...it certainly would be overkill on the facility but would have been a great place to play. And Methodist might not have had any student workers to host there.

Danville, Va. could have been an option at the Appalachian League Stadium there that has hosted the Dixie Conference and Big South Conference tournaments capably, as well as the American Legion World Series. It also has lights. Have no idea if a bit was submitted or not. Would tend to guess not.

But once they figured out they had a problem with Millsaps, they might have just called up two schools they knew would want to host and been done with it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 17, 2006, 05:49:07 pm

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I feel like getting sick... this one hurts. Well, time to find out what Carthage is made of.

It has to be disappointing for the Red Men, but they can bounce back with Olson or Husing, both of whom are quality competitive hurlers.  They can also count on solid offense and defense to help them navigate the losers' bracket.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 17, 2006, 07:11:24 pm
What a shame! Evo doesn't let anyone take him deep all season and gives one up in this game. That's college baseball for you!

Hopefully the Red people will bounce back. They have a way of getting to the regional final.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 17, 2006, 09:53:33 pm
Day 2

Thursday, May 18

Game Four, 10 a.m. - No. 1 Carthage vs. No. 5 Webster

Game Five, 1 p.m. - No. 6 Mount St. Joseph vs. No. 3 Washington U.

Game Six, 4 p.m. - No. 2 Millsaps vs. No. 4 Aurora

Someone will be going home early tomorrow :o
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 18, 2006, 08:20:17 am
Frank, does that mean they did NOT submit a bid? Interesting...I think we were all surprised they're hosting but that's still a juicy tidbit.

Spence--I didn't mean to indicate that they didn't submit a bid, just that I don't think they knew that they would be hosting till a few days ago.  I know that Millsaps submitted a bid and I'm under the impression that they were hopeful that they might get to host up until the time that the final sites were announced.

With the Carthage loss yesterday, the Millsaps vs. Aurora winner will get a big edge.  They either will play a winner's bracket game against a #6 seed that is using its #3 starter or they will become the only undefeated team and will get the advantage of playing teams that have played more games in the tournament.  It could be that the #3 starter for MSJ is great, but on paper that player doesn't look as great as say the Carthage #3 starter.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on May 18, 2006, 12:15:59 pm
No. 1 Carthage leads No. 5 Webster 8-1, Top 6th
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2006, 01:20:33 pm
Carthage beats Webster 18-3...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 18, 2006, 01:27:47 pm
Nice rebound after yesterday's tough loss.  The Red Men also have Husing waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2006, 01:32:17 pm
Jon Olson threw a CG for the REDMEN(One word)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 18, 2006, 02:01:54 pm
Wow...big win for Carthage..congrats on that.  Looks like Warren Even hit for the cycle...is that correct?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2006, 02:18:01 pm
Quoting Coach Augie Schmidt IV on the May 18 NCAA Win over Webster:  “Jon Olson stuck Webster pretty good on a hitter’s day, and that kind of set the tone.  We executed things early in the game, we hit the ball, and we scored some runs.  Things got out of hand late in the game,  but I’m happy that we played well.  We thought we were the better team yesterday against Mount St. Joseph, but we didn’t play well.  Today, we played a lot better.  I don’t know if we have enough pitching to win this regional, but we have enough to play some good baseball yet.  If we have enough to win the whole shooting match, that remains to be seen.  It’s still fun, and I think we’ll compete hard tomorrow against whoever we play.  There’s some tough teams left in this regional, and it’s going to be a heck of a challenge for us on Friday.  One thing to remember is that we’ve played good against good teams this year.  Our best baseball has been against the best teams we’ve played.  I expect us to play hard and make a run at this thing.”
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: AUpitch104k on May 18, 2006, 02:18:31 pm
5 for 6 is what the web page says with 7 RBI's sounds like a good day to me!!!!  Im still hoping for an AU vs Carthage Final!!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 18, 2006, 02:44:48 pm
What's the website everyone is looking at to get quote's and stats? Congrats to Carthage. What a day for Warren Even.  I'm sure Husing will start tomorrow, and Livek only pitched one inning yesterday. If they can put a few games together here, I have a feeling Evosovich will get the nod Saturday and try to avenge his only loss of the season
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2006, 02:51:15 pm
What's the website everyone is looking at to get quote's and stats? Congrats to Carthage. What a day for Warren Even.  I'm sure Husing will start tomorrow, and Livek only pitched one inning yesterday. If they can put a few games together here, I have a feeling Evosovich will get the nod Saturday and try to avenge his only loss of the season

Carthage/Webster boxscore... quotes ore off the Carthage press release page.
http://bearsports.wustl.edu/baseball/ncaa4.htm

Regional Website: http://bearsports.wustl.edu/releases/NCAABaseball.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 18, 2006, 03:04:10 pm
Thanks BP
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 18, 2006, 05:24:26 pm
So if you throw Husing in game 1 tomorrow and you win, who does Carthage throw in the game right after if they win?  Do they throw Livek?  I guess they have Krepline also.  To me, it seems if anyone has the pitching depth to get it done, it's Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 18, 2006, 05:41:26 pm
I would guess Husing, and then Livek (arm should be 100% after a day off and only throwing 1 inning). If they make it to saturday then, see how Evosovich is feeling, Krepline who I'm sure could be in a lot of teams top 3, and see if Olson can give you a few. With Krepline, if his breaking stuff is on, he's very tough. Throws just about as hard as Olson and Husing, but if that's all you got you're going to get hit. He worked incredibly hard all off season to improve his curve and change up, and it has really shown
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 18, 2006, 05:43:15 pm
I almost forgot about Ryan Roufus, who has been a very reliable reliever. Not the hardest throwing guy, but has a knee buckling curveball that makes his fastball jump on hitters.  Plus, he's the only lefty that has seen more than a few innings this year.  Im sure he'll see some innings as well tomorrow or Saturday(if they make it to Saturday of course...)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 18, 2006, 05:46:22 pm
Millsaps up on Aurora 5-1 in the 3rd. Looks like millsaps is definately the real deal
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 18, 2006, 07:21:44 pm
Millsaps takes it to Aurora, 11-3.  AU now faces Carthage in an elimination game tomorrow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2006, 07:27:43 pm
Millsaps takes it to Aurora, 11-3.  AU now faces Carthage in an elimination game tomorrow.

Should be a great game... anyone have a gametime on that?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 18, 2006, 07:39:49 pm
Scheduled for 1 p.m. I wonder if Aurora has thrown their top 2 pitchers. Jacob Husing was Carthage's 2 all year, so hopefull he can get it done tomorrow!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on May 18, 2006, 07:49:09 pm
Yes, I think Aurora threw Chapple yesterday and Salter today.  There seems to be a big drop off in their starting pitchers after those 2.  Here are the next 2 guys with the most starts:

Miller
7 starts, 2-1 with a 4.40 ERA; 45 IP

Mueller
7 starts, 3-2 with a 5.79 ERA; 37.1 IP


Both guys give up less than 1 hit per inning but have rather poor K-to-BB ratios.  Carthage should have the chance to put up some runs tomorrow.

But, while I say all this, Miller did shut down Carthage a few weeks ago so we will see what happens.  I'm not sure if Carthage played their 1st team players however...maybe someone could fill me in
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 18, 2006, 07:53:06 pm
That's the game where looking at the boxscore, Carthage played all their regulars, but also subbed a lot of their backups in. My guess is that they were playing so poorly that Augie yanked a bunch of the starters out. Anyone who has played for Augie knows in a non-conferene game if he feels you aren't giving it your all, he will throw you on the bench in a heart beat.  Hopefully Carthage didn't use up all their hits today and have some left for 2 games tomorrow and can make it to Saturday. Should be a great one tomorrow, two teams that are familiar with eachother and a matchup that has definitely become a rivalry
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 18, 2006, 07:55:16 pm
The majority of the Central Regional in the past ten seasons have had a Carthage/Aurora matchup somewhere in the mix. They are always great games... except for the 21-4 beating Carthage was handed two seasons ago.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 18, 2006, 07:56:03 pm
According to the regional website, the Carthage-Aurora game starts at 3.30 pm.  The CMSJ-Millsaps game starts at noon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 18, 2006, 08:05:02 pm
It sure looks like Aurora had a tough game against Millsaps.  The box score shows that the Spartans committed 6 errors (leading to 3 unearned runs), and the Majors reached Salter for 13 hits.   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 18, 2006, 08:17:59 pm
Friday, May 19
Game Seven, 10 a.m. - No. 6 Mount St. Joseph vs. No. 2 Millsaps
Game Eight, 1 p.m. - No. 1 Carthage vs. No. 4 Aurora
Game Nine, 4 p.m. - Loser Game 7 vs. Winner Game 8


That's what is listed on the site Big Poppa listed before, so I don't know which one is right
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 18, 2006, 08:30:03 pm
I know the 10am start is correct for the first game and I'm sure the rest are correct--there are no lights so they need to start at 10. 

For anyone interested, Millsaps has scored 26 runs and managed 37 hits with 6 home runs in their first two games.  They have thrown their top two pitchers but they have some quality arms remaining and John Fox only threw 80 pitches Wednesday so I expect him to pitch again on Saturday. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 18, 2006, 08:53:47 pm
http://www.scac-online.org/baseball/mc.htm#team.mlb

Not hard to see why Millsaps has been so successful this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Spence on May 18, 2006, 10:52:35 pm
I questioned Millsaps' #2 pitcher because of how many extra-base hits he's allowed and still wonder if they'll have enough pitching to make it through unless the Hendrixes have success finding the strike zone, which looks to have been questionable at times.

I don't look at W-L or ERA so much as WHIP (inferred from BA against and walks/9) and K/9, so I figured their #1's ERA was misleading.

Still think it'll come down to Millsaps and Carthage and Millsaps can clearly hit, which wasn't a surprise.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 19, 2006, 07:17:37 am
Carthage cannot worry about it coming down to them and Millsaps. They need to get by Aurora first. It is one game at a time at this point.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: frank_ezelle on May 19, 2006, 07:45:52 am
I questioned Millsaps' #2 pitcher because of how many extra-base hits he's allowed and still wonder if they'll have enough pitching to make it through unless the Hendrixes have success finding the strike zone, which looks to have been questionable at times.

I don't look at W-L or ERA so much as WHIP (inferred from BA against and walks/9) and K/9, so I figured their #1's ERA was misleading.

Spence--You're right about the #1 for Millsaps having a misleading ERA.  In the first game of the year Fox gave up 10 earned runs to East Texas Baptist in 2/3's of an inning.  Omit that blip and you have an ERA around 2.60.

The #2 had an injured right shoulder coming into the season and had just started throwing a few weeks before the season started.  In the first half of the season he would pitch a few good innings and then start to get hit around the 5th or 6th.  That's not the case any more.  And maybe it's not fair to call Kindler a #2 since he is now 10-2 on the season and 29-6 for his career.

Jay Hollenbeck will probably get the start today and he is capable.  He held DePauw to 1 run in a 7 inning game in the SCAC Tournament and he doesn't give up a lot of walks or extra base hits.  He should give a solid performance and that's all that it needed if the Millsaps bats stay hot.  At the SCAC Tournament they scored 52 runs in 5 games with their lowest output being a couple of 7 run games so the run production so far isn't too far from the norm.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: AUpitch104k on May 19, 2006, 07:57:08 am
Scheduled for 1 p.m. I wonder if Aurora has thrown their top 2 pitchers. Jacob Husing was Carthage's 2 all year, so hopefull he can get it done tomorrow!

I would have to say that AU really doesn’t have a 1 or 2, they have 2 Aces.    Between Chapple and Salter they would be anybody’s ace.  And they are both going to be waiting to see another day. I was able to coach those guys for a year; Chapple can easily come back and pitch today if they need him. However, Salter would probably upset the Yankees if he bounced back and threw on no rest. AU still has a sleeper on the bench in Hutten.  He is the only senior pitcher that went from 45+ innings per year to 18 this season. He's a gamer so I don’t know what his deal has been this season. I know he’s one of 3 pitchers on that team that have pitched in big games. (Baseball Championship Series) and Hutten received 1 of the 2 wins AU recorded on their way to a 3rd place finish in 2004. I’m going to say this is going to be a great game at 1 o’clock.     GO SPARTANS
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 08:52:05 am
I forgot the name of the pitcher who shut Carthage down a few weeks ago, but I'm sure Aurora will go with him in today's game
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: PTR on May 19, 2006, 10:26:33 am
Based on posts and messages that I have seen elsewhere:

Miller pitched the first time around.

He is supposed to throw today, you'll know by the 2nd inning if he has his stuff.

Based on boxscores: When Mueller throws, they use the #2 catcher ... so that dynamic may change from here on out.  He (Mueller) had a strong outing in Arizona.

Chapple may get the ball tomorrow if they beat CC.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: PTR on May 19, 2006, 10:28:03 am
The real reason that I registered:

What are the chances that Lance Marshall will leave Franklin and return to Elmhurst to take over that program?

He's an alum, proven coach, and has ties to HS coaches from his time with the Sox Training Center.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 02:16:06 pm
0-0 in the 2nd. Anyone know why the game started late?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 02:31:15 pm
Carthage now up 1-0 in the 2nd
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 02:41:11 pm
Aurora up 3-1 in the 3rd >:(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 19, 2006, 02:48:49 pm
The majority of the Central Regional in the past ten seasons have had a Carthage/Aurora matchup somewhere in the mix. They are always great games... except for the 21-4 beating Carthage was handed two seasons ago.

BP...and not good for the Redmen! Aurora holds a 6-2 edge over Carthage in regional action during the past 10 years (not including this year) and have three titles (98, 99, 04) to two (97, 02) for the Redmen.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 19, 2006, 03:19:10 pm
Game Eight, 1 p.m. - No. 1 Carthage trails No. 4 Aurora 4-2, Top 5th
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 03:27:10 pm
Now 4-4 in the 5th
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 19, 2006, 03:29:03 pm
Yesssssssssssssss
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 03:50:51 pm
Still 4-4 in the 7th. I gotta go to a formal dinner for all the graduates, this is killin me I won't be by a computer!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 04:04:46 pm
Still 4-4 in the 8th
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 04:25:03 pm
Aurora up 5-4 in the 9th
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 04:35:18 pm
Looks like Carthage lost 5-4, on their website by the score it doesn't say its the 9th anymore. Great season for Carthage, I'm sure they'll reload and be solid against next year and put a team on the field that can challenge for the conference championship again.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: irish21 on May 19, 2006, 04:41:10 pm
RMF...I agree with you. They will be in terrific shape for next year. Warren is the only position player they lose. The pitching staff got a lot of experience this season so it really won't matter if Heinig comes back or not. If he does it's a bonus. If he doesn't, it's his loss!

Great season Redmen!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 19, 2006, 05:01:29 pm
Wow, Jacob Husing gave up 5 unearned runs on 5 infield errors by the Redmen. Very uncharacteristic of Carthage. Like Augie always says, we're as good as any team in this country. It doesn't matter who we play, we are playing against ourselves.  Clearly, the Redmen beat themselves today.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: sportsguru90 on May 21, 2006, 01:33:57 am
I have heard Lance Marshall from Franklin and Brian Nelson from Rockford as two names thrown out for the Elmhurst job.
I have looked into both of them and both looks like have had success, Nelson a lot of success at Uw-Stevens Point and some recent success at Rockford.  Marshall some success but not a lot recently.
Has anyone else heard anything else?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 22, 2006, 04:51:05 am
Wow, Jacob Husing gave up 5 unearned runs on 5 infield errors by the Redmen. Very uncharacteristic of Carthage. Like Augie always says, we're as good as any team in this country. It doesn't matter who we play, we are playing against ourselves.  Clearly, the Redmen beat themselves today.

Doesn't sound to me as though you're giving Aurora any credit at all. Did the Spartans simply show up and stand around waiting for Carthage to throw the game away? Or did the Spartans actually have something to do with the final outcome?

Given the long-term success of that program (this will be Aurora's sixth appearance in the D3 College World Series), I suspect that it might be the latter. The box score also indicates that the Spartans may have had a hand in their victory. Aurora's pitchers struck out ten Carthage batters, while Carthage's pitchers didn't strike out any Spartans. That's ten more chances that Carthage was forced to handle in the field, and ten fewer opportunities for the Spartans to make errors.

Aurora went on to beat Mount St. Joseph later on Friday, then took a pair from Millsaps on Saturday to advance to the D3 College World Series. The Spartans are currently 34-12. I'm not a Carthage fan, but if I were I'd be tipping my cap to the team that beat mine, rather than dissing them by insisting that my team's defeat was totally self-inflicted.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 22, 2006, 09:35:01 am
Well, I guess you could also say Carthage hitters gave Aurora's catcher ten more opportunities to drop the third strike.

"Facts" from which no conclusions can be drawn are hardly worth knowing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 22, 2006, 11:17:18 am
Sager, I wasn't trying to take anything away from Aurora, and I gave them praise and congratulated them on their conference's message board on Friday when they beat Carthage.  My point was that when a team (any team) loses a game 5-4, and all of the runs you gave up were unearned on infield errors when you've played solid defense all year, you are going to feel as a team that you beat yourselves.  Yes Aurora put the ball into play and forced the issue and made things happen, so I do give them credit. Especially finding a way to win 3 more after that game and make it to the world series.  I think you completely misinterpreted my statement, or maybe it just came out wrong. The point I was trying to make is that if Carthage plays good defense, they win that game. But woulda, shoulda, coulda's don't matter in baseball...Aurora is going to the series and that's all that really matters at this point.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 23, 2006, 01:33:02 am
Well, I guess you could also say Carthage hitters gave Aurora's catcher ten more opportunities to drop the third strike.

"Facts" from which no conclusions can be drawn are hardly worth knowing.

Ah, but facts (no scare quotes) from which conclusions can be drawn are vital to understanding the issue at hand. The truth of D3 baseball is that it is a different animal than the sport as it is played at the professional level. Errors are much more prevalent, and therefore less can be assumed about routine balls in play being turned into outs. Strikeouts are thus a more potent defensive weapon, since they eliminate the possibility of what in D3 ball is a more marked propensity for bad things to happen in the field.

Sager, I wasn't trying to take anything away from Aurora, and I gave them praise and congratulated them on their conference's message board on Friday when they beat Carthage. My point was that when a team (any team) loses a game 5-4, and all of the runs you gave up were unearned on infield errors when you've played solid defense all year, you are going to feel as a team that you beat yourselves. Yes Aurora put the ball into play and forced the issue and made things happen, so I do give them credit. Especially finding a way to win 3 more after that game and make it to the world series. I think you completely misinterpreted my statement, or maybe it just came out wrong. The point I was trying to make is that if Carthage plays good defense, they win that game. But woulda, shoulda, coulda's don't matter in baseball...Aurora is going to the series and that's all that really matters at this point.

You didn't give Aurora any credit at all in your initial post. Rather, you said that "it doesn't matter who we play, we [Carthage] are playing against ourselves. Clearly, the Redmen beat themselves today." There's not an ounce of credit for the Spartans in that post. You've now changed your tune and given the Spartans their props, which I think is the sportsmanlike thing to do.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 23, 2006, 07:58:03 am
Well, I guess you could also say Carthage hitters gave Aurora's catcher ten more opportunities to drop the third strike.

... Errors are much more prevalent, and therefore less can be assumed about routine balls in play being turned into outs. Strikeouts are thus a more potent defensive weapon.


After years and years of scoring games, I can attest to the fact that a fielding error is far more common than a dropped third strike which results in a fielding chance.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 23, 2006, 08:33:02 am
Fact: Cathage batters DID give the Aurora catcher(s) ten more opportunities to drop the third strike.

Nothing changes that FACT!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on May 23, 2006, 09:30:18 am
Fact: Cathage batters DID give the Aurora catcher(s) ten more opportunities to drop the third strike.

Nothing changes that FACT!

You can't argue with "Da Professor..." He has a valid point.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 23, 2006, 12:12:05 pm
Sager, I said I congratulated them on THEIR conferences webpage, not the CCIW's. From now on i just won't bring up facts from a game if that will make you happy. I just thought 5 errors leading to 5 unearned runs was a pretty big factor in that game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 23, 2006, 10:01:06 pm
Red -- You are quite correct.  Five errors and five unearned runs are indeed relevant FACTors in the loss.

And yes, it's another case of "could have been" and "should have been."  We now must live with it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 23, 2006, 11:51:10 pm
Fact: Cathage batters DID give the Aurora catcher(s) ten more opportunities to drop the third strike.

Nothing changes that FACT!

You can't argue with "Da Professor..." He has a valid point.

Only if Division III batters are as likely to reach base on a dropped third strike as they are on another kind of error. Seems unlikely.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 24, 2006, 01:25:51 am
Sager, I said I congratulated them on THEIR conferences webpage, not the CCIW's. From now on i just won't bring up facts from a game if that will make you happy. I just thought 5 errors leading to 5 unearned runs was a pretty big factor in that game.

Nobody disagreed with that.

There's no need for you to play the martyr. As far as I was concerned, the issue was put to rest when you belatedly gave the Spartans their props.

Fact: Cathage batters DID give the Aurora catcher(s) ten more opportunities to drop the third strike.

Nothing changes that FACT!

You can't argue with "Da Professor..." He has a valid point.

Only if Division III batters are as likely to reach base on a dropped third strike as they are on another kind of error. Seems unlikely.

It's more than unlikely. As Mr. B said, a fielding error on a batted ball is far more common than a dropped third strike that results in a fielding chance.

CCIW teams collectively averaged almost two errors per game this season, which an examination of past seasons' records demonstrates is typical of this league. And CCIW batters hit for a cumulative .317 average this season. In baseball it's axiomatic that a strikeout is the best possible outcome for the defense, since the chances of it resulting in something that benefits the offense (i.e., a dropped third strike in which the runner reaches first base) are miniscule in comparison to the chances of a batted ball resulting in something that benefits the offense. That's true on every level of baseball. But it's even more true in D3 baseball, where the defenses and pitching aren't as good as the pros and hitters have a better chance of getting on base either via error or by knocking a hit through the defense than their pro counterparts enjoy.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 24, 2006, 06:43:59 am
Yes or No -- Carthage hitters gave the Aurora catcher(s) ten opportunities to drop the third strike.

That item has nothing to do with other error issues.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 24, 2006, 06:53:41 am
It also has a relevance to the outcome of Friday's game that comes fairly close to zero, because a dropped third strike resulting in the batter reaching first is so rare.

Why are you even bothering to bring it up?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: emeritusprof on May 24, 2006, 11:12:43 am
I could let it go, why can't you!

You jumped all over Redman with your 'facts.'  I simply indicated something that created a possibility because of the strikeouts. 

Now go ahead.  As is your wont, take the last word. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 24, 2006, 11:34:54 am
I don't understand why you are insisting on extending the conversation over something so stupid as this, emeritus. Why don't you go back to trying to convince me of the name of my hometown newspaper?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on May 24, 2006, 11:43:02 am
Congratulations to all the players in the CCIW who earned All-Region honors!  It looks like seven of the eight programs has at least one representative: nine first-teamers, three on the second team, and seven on the third team.   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: AUpitch104k on May 26, 2006, 08:45:29 am
I would like to Congratulate Scott Evosevich, 2nd team All American pitcher. Congrats Scott you deserve it. You have had 4 great years at Carthage. See you Labor Day???
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 26, 2006, 10:03:10 am
I'd also like to say Congratualtions to Scott Evosovich. An amazing 4 year run at Carthage, and what Augie Schmidt called the best 4 year pitcher and most consistent that he has ever coached.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bluejay Blue on May 27, 2006, 12:39:57 am
I would think Marshal from Franklin or Johnson from NP would be candidates. Time will tell.. Hopefully not to much time though.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 28, 2006, 12:54:45 pm
Congratulations to Scott Evosovich, Jon Olson, Boe Baitinger, and Warren Even on being named to the All-North Region teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on May 31, 2006, 10:22:30 am
Seeing there really isn't much to talk about now, what do others think about how their favorite teams are looking for next year? Big players returning, key losses to graduation, etc. Also, if its rumored any big time transfers are coming in. (Carthage usually always gets a few) For Carthage, they lose Evosovich, Olson, Even, Simental, and Barker. Most of the position players and hitters are back (including a healthy Sadjak hopefully) and their pitching should still be solid
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on June 01, 2006, 02:35:28 am
NPU only loses two seniors, #3 starter Brett Cooper and catcher Oscar Ibarra. The future looks very bright for the Vikings.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bluejay Blue on June 01, 2006, 08:30:14 pm
Jays are losing a couple of seniors One pitcher one out fielder and good hitter. With new coach coming in players are excited and ready for change. We should know coach sometime next week.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on June 05, 2006, 08:55:53 am
Jays are losing a couple of seniors One pitcher one out fielder and good hitter. With new coach coming in players are excited and ready for change. We should know coach sometime next week.

Well, he won't be Luke Johnson. One of Johnson's assistant coaches assured me this weekend that Johnson did not apply for the Elmhurst job, and that he is not leaving NPU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bluejay Blue on June 06, 2006, 08:21:58 pm
Time will tell who new coach will be. Only time!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on June 06, 2006, 10:48:06 pm
Time will tell who new coach will be. Only time!!

Do you have that on good authority?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on June 21, 2006, 12:21:42 pm
Just wanna say congratulations to Jarvis Brown on being named the head coach at UW-Parkside. It was made official on Monday afternoon. Jarvis leaves after being the hitting/outfield coach at Carthage the last 4 years, and has coached in single and double A. With his coaching background, and the fact that he played in the majors and has a world series ring from the 91 twins team, that should be a great recruiting tool for him to use.  Although its a blow to Carthage, I'm sure all coaches and players are happy for Coach Brown, I think he'll do great at the D-2 level.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: ljt2006 on June 21, 2006, 05:30:54 pm
Why is anyone concerned about head coach at Elmhurst, it seems to me that the adminstration doesn't give da** about baseball.  The field is a disgrace and you couldn't possibly have any tournament there; the lights are 1970's backyard equipment and there are no stands, people would have to stand around.  I for one wouldn't be happy to attend any institution that had no regard for maintain a facility.  what is funny is the football field has the latest turf, so I would assume that baseball is the orphan sport there at Elmhurst College.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bluejay Blue on July 11, 2006, 11:16:26 pm
Time will tell who new coach will be. Only time!!
New coach for BlueJays Joel Southern
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on August 29, 2006, 06:38:41 pm
Hey there CCIW baseball fans. It's been a while but I'm back. I started this post pattern because I have been a big fan of CCIW baseball. I believe that it is one of, if not the most, competitive conferences in all of D-III sports.

I know it is a ways from baseball season but I have always been a great fan of all of baseball. Since we are about 3-4 months away from our CCIW teams breaking out of their winter shell, does anyone know if any CCIW baseball players that have moved on to the next level? Rookie League, Single A, Double A, Triple A, maybe even the Majors?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on August 29, 2006, 09:59:42 pm
Hey there CCIW baseball fans. It's been a while but I'm back. I started this post pattern because I have been a big fan of CCIW baseball. I believe that it is one of, if not the most, competitive conferences in all of D-III sports.

I know it is a ways from baseball season but I have always been a great fan of all of baseball. Since we are about 3-4 months away from our CCIW teams breaking out of their winter shell, does anyone know if any CCIW baseball players that have moved on to the next level? Rookie League, Single A, Double A, Triple A, maybe even the Majors?

RedmenFB,

Check out this link http://www.pjstar.com/sports/peoriabs.htm (http://www.pjstar.com/sports/peoriabs.htm) on Illinois natives who are playing at various levels of professional ball, all the way from Rookie up through the majors, including independent leagues.  It's maintained by the Peoria Star Newspaper and is updated regularly.  Some players are missing (e.g., Cory Lapinski of Illinois Wesleyan, but teammate Dave Dobosz is on the list), but I think the site does an admirable job of tracking players who are from, or played for schools in, the state of Illinois.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on August 31, 2006, 07:05:58 am
Wow mr_b that is a great site! Thanks

They are missing a guy from Crystal Lake, IL Scott Olson. He went to Crystal Lake South High School and now is in the majors as a starting pitcher with the Florida Marlins. But maybe this just shows where these players were born and maybe Olson wasn't born in IL but moved here and played high school ball here. Whatever the case that is a great site.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on August 31, 2006, 12:37:31 pm
Wow mr_b that is a great site! Thanks

They are missing a guy from Crystal Lake, IL Scott Olson. He went to Crystal Lake South High School and now is in the majors as a starting pitcher with the Florida Marlins. But maybe this just shows where these players were born and maybe Olson wasn't born in IL but moved here and played high school ball here. Whatever the case that is a great site.

It is a great site, though, as you mentioned, there are some players missing.  They track players that were born in Illinois or that played here.  Former Redmen hurler Dan Grybash is a good example of someone who played collegiately outside of Illinois but is still being tracked.  I think the site does an admirable job of following so many players at all levels.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on September 26, 2006, 09:41:33 pm
Did anyone hear about the NCC baseball team hazing charges?
17 players and 2 coaches suspended for the first 3 or 4 games of the season
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gotberg on September 26, 2006, 11:17:34 pm
Did anyone hear about the NCC baseball team hazing charges?
17 players and 2 coaches suspended for the first 3 or 4 games of the season

Here's the article about the incident from the Daily Herald:  http://www.dailyherald.com/search/searchstory.asp?id=230556
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on September 27, 2006, 01:10:34 pm
Some sort of hazing takes place at almost every school in the country no matter what the sport is, but it sounds like these students took it a little too far. Its the same for rookies that play a professional sport. I don't have a problem if its things like singing or something like that that the guys can have fun with, but pouring bottles of liquor is a bit over the top...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on October 03, 2006, 01:05:23 pm
Interesting debate on Mike and Mike in the morning today; if you were a parent would you pull your child out of school to watch the MLB playoffs since they are during the day?  Any opinions out there...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Browneagle64 on October 03, 2006, 05:28:34 pm
With new technology everyday getting better i would never pull them out of school for a playoff game. I would TiVo it for them.

On the other hand, As for myself, I would definitely pull myself out of work for a day playoff game.. ;D

Dodgers all the way
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on October 04, 2006, 09:38:04 am
With new technology everyday getting better i would never pull them out of school for a playoff game. I would TiVo it for them.

On the other hand, As for myself, I would definitely pull myself out of work for a day playoff game.. ;D

Dodgers all the way

I'm loath to ever root for a team from La-la-land, but since I usually pick an NL team to root for in the playoffs, and Nomar Garciaparra and Greg Maddux are two of my favorite ex-Cubs, I'm rooting for the Dodgers as well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on October 04, 2006, 10:15:01 am
Brown Eagle,

What if you lived in L.A., would you pull your son/daughter out of school to take them a playoff game?? That's what I meant, sorry I wasn't clear
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Browneagle64 on October 04, 2006, 10:34:54 am
REDMENFAN----That's a good call. I do live in L.A. and that is a tough call. IMHO, I wouldn't do it. A child needs to learn as they just returned from Summer break not to long ago. In addition, eventhough, a child and parent are the biggest fans, the most that they can do in return is do the right thing. Have the child go ro school.

As for an adult, the heck with it, We've been through school and through professional careers, call in sick, skip work and go to the park to see the old ball game. (Just one of the perks that you get after your parents couln't take you to the game when you were a child.hahahahaha)

"I usually pick an NL team to root for in the playoffs, and Nomar Garciaparra and Greg Maddux are two of my favorite ex-Cubs,"

(Both players have been a nice addition to our club and have made my summer of 2006 really exciting even if i live in the land of make-believe) ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on October 04, 2006, 03:32:45 pm
As a teacher I can see the importance of a student being in the classroom, but I truly feel that there are some things that are more valuable than school.... I say that in a memories sense. A day with your dad at a playoff game would be priceless and a cherished memory for a lifetime. If they are just pulled to watch it at home, then I say no.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Dixon on October 04, 2006, 07:47:30 pm
If one has to go to a baseball game with their son, daughter, neice, nephew, friend... do it during the summer instead of taking them away from school.  Nobody really needs to skip school just to go to a baseball game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on October 05, 2006, 10:35:07 am
I am siding with BP on this one. If you're not going to the game, then record it, TEVO it, whatever. But, if you can go to a playoff game, that is an experience that is worth it, plus the opportunity may not present itself very often in your life time depending on the team you root for.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Dixon on October 05, 2006, 11:24:34 am
But, if you can go to a playoff game, that is an experience that is worth it

I will have to disagree.  In an attempt to bring this back to Division III baseball - I have seen games at the Championship level and on the spring trips and I dont know if I saw the players play any harder at the Championship level.  By virtue of the playoffs being at the end of the season, freshmen have essentially a whole season behind them, and the team playing with each other enough to form a "team" - yes the play is better.  The competition is better also  making for good games but why would a Cortland - Montclair match up in late April be any different than the Championship round?  One expects the facilities to be better.  One expects the pressure on the players to be different since a win means so much.  But seriously would you root harder for you team just because it was later in the year.  I dont and I expect many folks here wont either.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on October 05, 2006, 11:56:44 am
Do I think you cheer for your favorite team (profession sports) "harder" in the playoffs than the regular season?  I wouldn't say you cheer more, but there is obviously a lot more at stake and the intensity and tension as far as in the crowd and fans viewing from around the country, yes I would say it is a completely different atmosphere than a regular season game, even if that game is a rivalry.  Is Boston/New York instense at Fenway in May, of course.  If they were playing in October, I feel it it would be even more electric knowing that its the playoffs and if you don't win this series you're going home.  Also, I stated that taking your child to a playoff game, whether it be baseball, basketball, football etc., that opportunity may not come around for another 10-20 years, if ever. There's something special about a father taking his son/daughter to a playoff game, and if you pass up on the opportunity and it doesn't happen again until that child is 30, that's a lifelong memory that you passed up on
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on October 05, 2006, 03:12:16 pm
I am still waiting to attend a Brewers playoff game.... I have no idea of how long it will be but you can bet that I will be there when it happens... even if I have to travel cross-country to do it.
Title: Fall Ball...
Post by: BigPoppa on October 17, 2006, 02:56:31 pm
Any body have any insights into the CCIW? How is Fall Ball going? Who is expected to be at the top this spring? Any big-time recruits and/or transfers?

How will Elmhurst respond to the new coaching? Can North Park stay hot this season or was it a fluke last year?

Give me something to keep warm with while the temperature drops (for you,  not me... it is sunny and 72 every day here).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on October 18, 2006, 12:51:22 pm
BP, Carthage should be solid again, and have a lot more depth this year with some new guys, especially in the middle infield.  Something new I heard about a week ago. There were a number of scouts who came to a practice to watch the guys, and Carthage had 3 pitchers (their top 3 as of right now) all throw in the upper 80's and touching 90.  The team stayed inside and pitchers threw live to hitters. Not bad for fall ball.  Carthage will have solid pitching again this year as they have had the past few years, and their hitting should improve this year as well with most of their starters returning.  I believe Warren Even is their only senior they lost as far as position players go.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on October 18, 2006, 01:30:57 pm
Thanks for the info... any other news about the CCIW out there? Where are the Elmhurst guys? North Park? Augustana(I think will be loaded)? Hit me with the info, fellas.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on October 19, 2006, 01:46:24 am
I don't have many specifics about NPU, Poppa. Sorry. Perhaps Mr. B has more info about the new Vikings than me. I do know that Luke Johnson is happy with his new recruits. He brought in some much-needed arms (including a couple of juco guys, I think) and a highly-sought catcher from Clemente High here in the city, which fills a serious need behind the plate. The Park only loses two seniors from last season's team, #3 starter Brett Cooper and catcher Oscar Ibarra.

The feeling on campus is that the Vikings got a toehold in the first division of the CCIW last season, nothing more. They beat everyone below them pretty regularly, but couldn't manage even a single victory against Augustana, Carthage, or Illinois Wesleyan. Johnson's goal this year is to consolidate NPU's position as a top four team by playing better against the three powers that have dominated the league in recent seasons.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on October 19, 2006, 10:51:47 am
Sounds like a solid plan of attack. I think bringing NPU back into the mix in the CCIW will only make the league stronger. Luke Johnson did an amazing job with that group last season and I am certain that his first full year of recruiting will be even more productive.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on October 30, 2006, 03:51:00 pm
Any new updates on the CCIW? Last year we had quite a few reports from the CCIW already...

How is Elmhurst doing with their new coach?

Is IWU going to live up to the expectations this year?

Can NPU repeat its "Cinderella Season" of last year?

Is this the season that Carthage does NOT make the CCIW tourney?

Can Augustana make a run at the CCIW title this season?

Is Wheaton ever going to break into the top half of the CCIW?

Will North Central ever recover from the departure of Coach Ed Mathey?

Can Millikn string together a FEW good seasons?


Which team has the best shot to make a dent on the national scene this season?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CardinalAlum on October 30, 2006, 05:09:15 pm

Will North Central ever recover from the departure of Coach Ed Mathey?


Not any time soon!  :(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on October 30, 2006, 06:09:26 pm

Will North Central ever recover from the departure of Coach Ed Mathey?


Not any time soon!  :(

What's the news at NCC? Anything to talk about with the program this year?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on October 31, 2006, 11:02:45 am
Well, I would say NCC has the nicest place to play at in the conference, along with Augie's new facility. All the goose greese in Carthage's outfield can get pretty annoying!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CardinalAlum on October 31, 2006, 01:34:27 pm
Anything to talk about with the program this year?

There hasn't been in recent years, why start now!  ;D

Seriously, nothing much that I have heard, but I have not been in touch with the program since Mathey left.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on November 02, 2006, 02:24:22 pm
Anything to talk about with the program this year?

There hasn't been in recent years, why start now!  ;D

Seriously, nothing much that I have heard, but I have not been in touch with the program since Mathey left.

I have heard some rumors that NCC Baseball got in bit of trouble for hazing this fall. Can anyone confirm that and, if so, what is the penalty?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 02, 2006, 02:27:27 pm
Anything to talk about with the program this year?

There hasn't been in recent years, why start now!  ;D

Seriously, nothing much that I have heard, but I have not been in touch with the program since Mathey left.

I have heard some rumors that NCC Baseball got in bit of trouble for hazing this fall. Can anyone confirm that and, if so, what is the penalty?

Here ya go!
http://www.dailyherald.com/search/searchstory.asp?id=230556
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on November 06, 2006, 10:38:58 am
REDMENFAN is the MAN!

Looking forward to another great year of CCIW baseball.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on November 06, 2006, 02:46:45 pm
Well, I would say NCC has the nicest place to play at in the conference, along with Augie's new facility. All the goose greese in Carthage's outfield can get pretty annoying!!

It's part of the strategy... even the geese are Carthage fans! Carthage players get used to and do not let it bother them... the other outfielders freak out when playing at Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on November 08, 2006, 12:43:36 pm
It drives Augie absolutely nuts being out there 4-5 hours before game time with a bucket and a shovel!!  I'll admit though, the Carthage outfielders do pretty much get used to it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on November 08, 2006, 12:45:03 pm
RedmenFB44: YOU ARE THE MAN. You going to be in naperville this Saturday?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on November 09, 2006, 04:22:22 pm
RedmenFB44: YOU ARE THE MAN. You going to be in naperville this Saturday?

REDMENFAN -

I'm thinking about going to the game this Saturday and if I do i'll give you a call. If I don't then I will see you soon, I hope! + Karma for you because you are my BOY BLUE!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on November 20, 2006, 03:38:42 pm
Along with their annual spring trip to Flordia, I found out a few days ago that Carthage will drive to Minneapolis as well to play a few games in the Dome.  Too bad Jarvis Brown wasn't still coaching there, he could have been in the building where he won a world series!  BP- not happy Robin Yount decided not to return. Cubs are wheeling and dealing out the cash, you think the Brew Crew will make any big moves this off season?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on November 20, 2006, 05:28:22 pm
Along with their annual spring trip to Flordia, I found out a few days ago that Carthage will drive to Minneapolis as well to play a few games in the Dome.  Too bad Jarvis Brown wasn't still coaching there, he could have been in the building where he won a world series!  BP- not happy Robin Yount decided not to return. Cubs are wheeling and dealing out the cash, you think the Brew Crew will make any big moves this off season?

Playing in the Metro Dome will be a great experience for the Redmen(one word). I wish Yount would return, but I guess he got sick of being better than most guys on the field.

The Cubbies are going crazy with money, but they still have not addressed their pitching troubles. Soriano could hit a ton of HRs at Wrigley. The Brewers best off-season move may be to sign Teddy Higuera to a one year contract to see if he can help their bullpen woes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on November 21, 2006, 11:07:53 am
I agree, anyone who's ever gone to Carthage before 2006, it will always be one word. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on November 21, 2006, 02:19:11 pm
I agree, anyone who's ever gone to Carthage before 2006, it will always be one word. 

Does President Campbell still roll out the red blazer for home games????
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on November 21, 2006, 02:31:30 pm
Yes!! And I'm sure he'll be wearing them to the basketball games to this year
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on November 21, 2006, 02:33:58 pm
Poppa-
Good to have you back. I heard that you were going to move back to the Midwest to take a college coaching job. Any truth to that?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on November 21, 2006, 02:39:15 pm
Poppa-
Good to have you back. I heard that you were going to move back to the Midwest to take a college coaching job. Any truth to that?

A bit of truth. I was contacted by a few programs about open jobs, but I had no interest. I have a great gig in SoCal right now at the high school level. Teaching in a great school district with baseball every day.

Nobody knows how to prep a wet field here because it never rains! My program does not even own a single bag of diamond dry.

Anybody need some solid players for next year?? I have a few still looking as most of my seniors have signed already.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on November 21, 2006, 11:52:52 pm
Anybody need some solid players for next year?? I have a few still looking as most of my seniors have signed already.

Send'em back to the Midwest!  We'd be happy to have them.  Just tell them what to expect in terms of weather.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on November 22, 2006, 01:23:54 am
You can always spot the new students from California on the NPU campus in January. The look of bewilderment and despair on their faces as they experience their first Chicago winter is absolutely priceless.

Of course, at the same time the new kids from Minnesota keep asking people, "So ... when does it turn cold around here?"  :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: MakemK on November 22, 2006, 12:15:29 pm
BigPoppa


I'd greatly appreciate info on the kids that you have that have not signed yet.  please email me leftie31@comcast.net 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on November 22, 2006, 03:22:02 pm
BigPoppa


I'd greatly appreciate info on the kids that you have that have not signed yet.  please email me leftie31@comcast.net 


Just sent you an email... let me know if I can help in any way.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on November 30, 2006, 04:24:09 pm
BP, you like the trade getting Estrada for Doug Davis, Dana Eveland, and Krynzel?  I personally disliked Doug Davis, especially if you are attending a game.  That guy has to take a minute inbetween each pitch he throws.  I think the move will definitely help the brewers, having a swith hitting catcher who can hit for .300, hopefully Damien Miller sticks around to play a backup role cuz he's a great team guy like Cirillo, and plus he's a Wisconsin Native
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on December 01, 2006, 01:08:27 pm
BP, you like the trade getting Estrada for Doug Davis, Dana Eveland, and Krynzel?  I personally disliked Doug Davis, especially if you are attending a game.  That guy has to take a minute inbetween each pitch he throws.  I think the move will definitely help the brewers, having a swith hitting catcher who can hit for .300, hopefully Damien Miller sticks around to play a backup role cuz he's a great team guy like Cirillo, and plus he's a Wisconsin Native

I think it was a good move. The problem the Brewers have is that they develop stars for big-market teams (Surhoff, Sheffield, Burnitz). I doubt that Doug Davis will fall into that category, but they made a nice move to help the club.

How are things on the lake??? How is Chief Augie, leader of the Redmen, doing?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on December 04, 2006, 12:53:36 pm
Poppa, haven't seen Augie in a few weeks, I'm sure he's doing fine. I'll probably help out with the baseball christmas camps and see him there.  Things along the lake are great, our mens basketball team just won back to back games against two top 10 teams in the country as the CCIW swept the MIAA in the classis this weekend at Carthage.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on December 04, 2006, 01:18:22 pm
REDMENFAN-

Hope all is well up at the iceberg. I know how cold it gets up there on the lake. How much snow did you guys up there on Friday? Maybe soon I'll make a trip up there soon so we can live it up like old times.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on December 04, 2006, 01:38:01 pm
FB44, We got 17 inches! Couldn't even get my car out of the driveway til Friday night.  The highs all week aren't even going to get to 30 degrees so the snow won't melt any time soon either.  Yeah you need to get here soon, haven't seen you since homecoming (which you probably don't remember!)  ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on December 04, 2006, 02:05:47 pm
REDMENFAN-
My son will be at the Carthage winter camp.  Let me know if you'll be there I'd like to meet some ex players.  My son is interested in Carthage and playing ball there.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on December 04, 2006, 02:15:50 pm
BataviaPete:
Even if I don't work the camps, I'll probably stop in to see how they're going and to say hi to everyone. Vinny Rottino will most likely work with the Catchers again (triple A player in the brewers organization and played on the Big League Club the last month of the year last season.) Scott Roehl will most likely work with the pitchers and hitters as he's done over the last few years (Double A pitcher in the Indians organization.)  Besides those two, the rest of the guys are Carthage players and coaches.  Its a great camp with great in depth video analysis from Augie Schmidt with the hitters and Cory Everts with the pitchers.  I'm sure your son would love playing for Augie, just ask any current or former players.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on December 04, 2006, 04:26:51 pm
Sounds great REDMENFAN.  My son's only a jr but he's started looking.  Was at Whitewater last for a camp and they want him to come up for a visit already.  Some d1 schools are after him too.  Evansville already had him down there.  My wife and I both went to Carthage so he's familiar with the school and we usually get to at least on Carhtage game a year so he's seen Augie in action and knows about the program.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on December 04, 2006, 05:21:51 pm
FB44, We got 17 inches! Couldn't even get my car out of the driveway til Friday night.  The highs all week aren't even going to get to 30 degrees so the snow won't melt any time soon either.  Yeah you need to get here soon, haven't seen you since homecoming (which you probably don't remember!)  ;)

Ahhhhh....... Homecoming...... Nothing better than falling down the hill at halftime and then hooking up with a Pi Theta after the game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on December 04, 2006, 05:25:48 pm
  My wife and I both went to Carthage so he's familiar with the school and we usually get to at least on Carhtage game a year so he's seen Augie in action and knows about the program.

There is nothing like seeing Augie in action. I think I am going to write a book in the near future detailing my days at Carthage. I bet there are many people interested in what goes on behind the scenes and in the dugouts when Augie flips out. I also played with pitching coach Cory Everts... he was a complete lunatic on the days that he pitched. Some good stories there too.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on December 04, 2006, 06:28:24 pm
  My wife and I both went to Carthage so he's familiar with the school and we usually get to at least on Carhtage game a year so he's seen Augie in action and knows about the program.

There is nothing like seeing Augie in action. I think I am going to write a book in the near future detailing my days at Carthage. I bet there are many people interested in what goes on behind the scenes and in the dugouts when Augie flips out. I also played with pitching coach Cory Everts... he was a complete lunatic on the days that he pitched. Some good stories there too.

You went to Carthage...you can't read or write!!!  :-)   Kidding of course....

Merry Christmas to all the Carthage baseball fans.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on December 04, 2006, 10:35:09 pm
BP, Cory played in an adult league along with former big leaguer Jarvis Brown on Sundays at Carthage this past summer (just a have fun league with 4 teams), but I saw Cory pitch and he can still bring it, although I don't think he could lift his arm the next few days  :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on December 05, 2006, 11:44:55 am
BP, Cory played in an adult league along with former big leaguer Jarvis Brown on Sundays at Carthage this past summer (just a have fun league with 4 teams), but I saw Cory pitch and he can still bring it, although I don't think he could lift his arm the next few days  :D

He used to wear eye-black when he pitched. He was very intimidating on the mound. He would also lift weights in the dugout between innings to keep loose. He kept dumbells in the corner that no one dared go near for fear of angering him.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on December 05, 2006, 02:54:36 pm
Ha! That is hilarious about the weights. And I definitely have not seen too many pitchers wear eye black. I guess all those attempts at intimidation and to psych himself up made up for him being 5'7'', because I heard how great of a pitcher he was.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on December 06, 2006, 05:11:54 pm
Ha! That is hilarious about the weights. And I definitely have not seen too many pitchers wear eye black. I guess all those attempts at intimidation and to psych himself up made up for him being 5'7'', because I heard how great of a pitcher he was.

As good as Cory was back in the day, the guy out of that group who I wouldn't want to step into the box against was Dan Falkingham.  He didn't wear eye black, wasn't that big (5'10", 170), but he stared you down aka Roger Clemens.  And, he wasn't afraid to throw at your mellon to get you off the inside corner of the plate.

Another guy I would have never stepped in against was Todd Greenlee, but for different reasons.  He could throw a baseball through a brick wall, but you never knew where it was going!!  I think "Horse" still holds the Carthage record for walks ina game with 11!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on December 06, 2006, 06:05:48 pm
Two other guys who were as intimidating as they come in D3 baseball were Dan Grybash and Dusty Reid, who most went unbeaten during the regular season, Grybash finished that year 9-0 with an ERA in the low 1's
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on December 06, 2006, 08:20:53 pm
Another guy I would have never stepped in against was Todd Greenlee, but for different reasons.  He could throw a baseball through a brick wall, but you never knew where it was going!!  I think "Horse" still holds the Carthage record for walks ina game with 11!!

Horse was a wildman.... In addition to the 11 walks that day, he also hit 5-6 Lakeland batters. He gave up 6-7 runs while throwing a 1-hitter! Augie just kept sending him back out to the hill and told him to figure it out.

He was even wilder in the dorms. Man, the stories about that guy that I could tell...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on December 06, 2006, 10:02:22 pm
BP, when did you play at Carthage?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Spence on December 07, 2006, 12:12:32 am
The only time I ever saw Grybash he got lit up in the Series.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on December 07, 2006, 09:33:31 am
Yeah Carthage struggled in the series his soph. year. His junior year, as I said, Augie did something because Grybash rarely walked hitters, and actually started to locate is pitches very well. I'm sure if he would've came back his senior year instead of signing with the Brewers he would've had another great year. I believe his soph. year Dan actually had a few losses. Once he developed a splitty and more than just a get me over curveball, he was nearly untouchable at the D3 level
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on December 07, 2006, 01:53:26 pm
BP, when did you play at Carthage?

I played from '93-'96...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on December 18, 2006, 03:49:22 pm
The only time I ever saw Grybash he got lit up in the Series.

Typical assessment by you, Spence. The only players that ever have, currently are, or ever will be any good, either played for, are playing for, or will play for Marietta.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Captain Morgan on December 19, 2006, 03:14:36 pm
The only time I ever saw Grybash he got lit up in the Series.

Typical assessment by you, Spence. The only players that ever have, currently are, or ever will be any good, either played for, are playing for, or will play for Marietta.

Poppa-
Once again your honesty is right on. I may not always agree with your assessments, but I always respect your honesty. I think board needs to have a "debate-off" between you and Ralph over your favorites: Carthage vs. McMurry.

I have no idea of why people take your karma away simply because you are not afraid to talk about the elephant in the room. Keep posting the truth, BigPoppa.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on December 28, 2006, 10:09:13 pm


Collegiate Baseball Newspaper's
 
NCAA Div. III Pre-Season Poll (As of Dec. 26)
 
www.baseballnews.com
 
Rank    School Name '06 Final Record Point Totals
1. Otterbein, OH 34-16 252
2. Chapman, CA 33-13 248
3. Montclair St. 35-19-2 246
4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point 35-18 244
5. Southern Maine 32-17 241
6. Eastern Conn. St. 36-20 240
7. Marietta, OH 43-11 238
8. Coll. of New Jersey 38-8 235
9. Wheaton, MA 42-10 232
10. North Carolina Wesleyan 31-19 229
11. Cortland St., NY 39-9 226
12. Aurora, IL 34-14 225
13. Wooster, OH 38-9 222
14. St. Thomas, MN 31-11 220
15. Kean, NJ 31-17 217
16. Millsaps 37-13 215
17. Ripon, WI 34-7 212
18. Texas Lutheran 35-13-1 209
19. Carthage, WI 34-9 208
20. Ithaca, NY 33-11 206
21. Salisbury, MD 37-10 204
22. Western New England, MA 35-12 202
23. Rensselaer Poly. Inst., NY 34-11 197
24. Rowan, NJ 30-15 196
25. Augustana, IL 31-10 194
26. Trinity, TX 34-13 191
27. George Fox, OR 29-15 190
28. St. Olaf, MN 30-10 189
29. Bridgewater, VA 32-14-1 185
30. Manchester, IN 35-11 183
     Washington, MO 34-7 183
Other Top Teams: Emory, GA (31-9), St. Scholastica, MN (37-6), California Lutheran (20-19-1), William Paterson, NJ (26-14), Johns Hopkins, MD (28-9-2), Mount St. Joseph, OH (30-17), Alvernia, PA (30-13), York, PA (25-16-1), Methodist, NC (26-17), Washington & Jefferson, PA (34-13), LaGrange, GA (26-16), Texas-Tyler (28-11).
Source: Collegiate Baseball newspaper

Thoughts? Overated? Underated?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on January 02, 2007, 11:47:49 pm
Since Milsaps lost their All-American, Garner Wetzel, I'd have to think that his numbers from last season will be hard to replace.  They might be high at #16.

Cortland-SUNY returns 5 starting pitchers that went a combined 33-5 last season with over 250 Innings pitched and they return 2 of their top 4 hitters (batting average).  They might be ranked low at #11.  (thanks for the catch Mr. Sager)

I can't find anything on the Aurora website about returnees, etc.

Point only lost three to graduation, but they were the starting SS (Frombach) and OF Brehm (16 HRs) as well as 7-2 SP Perkins.  They still have a stud in Zimmerman and will be tough.

The other WI school that is ranked, Ripon lost 4 of it's top 5 hitters from last season and 2 of their top 4 pitchers.  I'm not sure they belong here.

How's that to generate a little discussion??

Poppa / Red_MenFan, et all... if Carthage made web-broadcasts of their baseball games available, would you be interested?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 03, 2007, 11:14:34 am

Poppa / Red_MenFan, et all... if Carthage made web-broadcasts of their baseball games available, would you be interested?

I would certainly be interested. Easier to keep track of Augie's ranting on-line.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on January 04, 2007, 10:56:52 am
Yes I would most likely listen quite a bit. Better than calling the Carthage sports hotline every ten minutes or so when Carthage is on the road!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 05, 2007, 02:24:06 am

The other WI school that is ranked, Ripon lost 4 of it's top 5 hitters from last season and 2 of their top 4 pitchers.  I'm not sure they belong here.


I think Ripon is starting its fall from grace after Gordie Gillespie left the program two years ago. He was a great recruiting tool for Ripon and now that he is gone, it will be interesting to see how their recruiting classes pan out. This year and next year are when the first classes that he did not recruit will be expected be impact players. I am betting that Ripon will return to the level they were prior to his arrival.

The one advantage they have is that they play in a weak conference and can pile up wins while letting young guys develop.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on January 05, 2007, 02:30:07 pm
BP, I agree. Ripon plays in a very weak conference overall, and hasn't done much in the postseason.  I know they sure take it seriously when they play Carthage. BP you know Augs will never throw any of his top 4-5 guys in a midweek nonconference double header, not even for a few innings. Ripon, along with some other teams, will be throwing their top guns to get the wins. I understand their reasoning, because it will look great to the voters and keep them up in the rankings. Don't get me wrong, Carthage tries to win those games, but conference is much more important. Augie most of the time will also play a lot of back up position players who see little or no time in conference games.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 05, 2007, 02:45:23 pm
BP, I agree. Ripon plays in a very weak conference overall, and hasn't done much in the postseason.  I know they sure take it seriously when they play Carthage. BP you know Augs will never throw any of his top 4-5 guys in a midweek nonconference double header, not even for a few innings. Ripon, along with some other teams, will be throwing their top guns to get the wins. I understand their reasoning, because it will look great to the voters and keep them up in the rankings. Don't get me wrong, Carthage tries to win those games, but conference is much more important. Augie most of the time will also play a lot of back up position players who see little or no time in conference games.

I know what you are saying. Carthage comes to town and it is a big event on some campuses. They fire the best guns at Carthage mid-week because they can still win without them on the weekend(conference). Carthage always throws their middle relievers in those games to get them work and keeps their big guns in the holster.

I remember playing a Friday night DH at Marian once and they threw their #1 and #2 even with conference games the following day. We swept the DH and they got hammered on the weekend with their 3-5 throwing games. They would be smarter to throw their 1 and 2 on the weekends as conference is more important. Augie understands that and will throw his #1 and #2 against even the worst teams on the schedule. I know they threw their 1 and 2 at a 1-39 North Park team a few years ago.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 08, 2007, 03:06:32 pm
Carthage's Florida schedule came out:

March 10 Sat. Coe (DH)
 
March 11 Sun. Ohio Wesleyan (DH)
 
March 12 Mon. Concordia (Wis., DH)
 
March 14 Wed. SUNY-Cortland
 
March 15 Thu. St. Joseph’s (N.Y.)

March 16 Fri. Clarkson (DH)

Ten games in Seven days. It looks like a nice trip for the Redmen with a huge matchup with Cortland State. The schedule works out well for Carthage as they can throw their #1 and #2 on Saturday the 10th against Coe and bring their #1 back against Cortland on Wednesday in a single game and their #2 against St. Joe's on Thursday.
 
The Redmen typically struggle the first game of day #2 which bodes well for Ohio Wesleyan. I can remember being #7 in the nation and sweeping #2 Wooster in a DH and getting pounded by a 3-41 Muskingum team the next morning.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on January 10, 2007, 07:02:36 pm
The other WI school that is ranked, Ripon lost 4 of it's top 5 hitters from last season and 2 of their top 4 pitchers.  I'm not sure they belong here.
Last years stats can be a little deceiving......  What is going to help them is that they return two guys who sat out the entire 2006 seasons and took medical hardships.  The first being Catcher John Dunlavy who is a two time 1st Team All MWC North Division selection.  He missed the 2006 season with a broken bone in his ankle.  (It should be known that Dunlavy had beaten out 2006 MWC North Division POY Eric Schwendimann the previous two seasons.)  Also back is starting LHP Bill Nolan.  Nolan is also a two time 1st Team All MWC North Division selection, and will probably be their #1 pitcher this season.  Now I know two guys aren't enough for a high National ranking, but I just wanted to point out that the cupboard isn't as bare as it appears. 

After this season though, I TOTALLY agree with waht your saying about the drop in talent.  Bob better stick to recruiting basketball players, because his baseball recruiting skills are really lacking.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 10, 2007, 07:20:04 pm
The other WI school that is ranked, Ripon lost 4 of it's top 5 hitters from last season and 2 of their top 4 pitchers.  I'm not sure they belong here.
Last years stats can be a little deceiving......  What is going to help them is that they return two guys who sat out the entire 2006 seasons and took medical hardships.  The first being Catcher John Dunlavy who is a two time 1st Team All MWC North Division selection.  He missed the 2006 season with a broken bone in his ankle.  (It should be known that Dunlavy had beaten out 2006 MWC North Division POY Eric Schwendimann the previous two seasons.)  Also back is starting LHP Bill Nolan.  Nolan is also a two time 1st Team All MWC North Division selection, and will probably be their #1 pitcher this season.  Now I know two guys aren't enough for a high National ranking, but I just wanted to point out that the cupboard isn't as bare as it appears. 

After this season though, I TOTALLY agree with waht your saying about the drop in talent.  Bob better stick to recruiting basketball players, because his baseball recruiting skills are really lacking.

Great info, but Ripon is not in the CCIW. It would work great on the MWC Board. Ralph, can you bump it over there?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on January 11, 2007, 09:17:16 am
Great info, but Ripon is not in the CCIW. It would work great on the MWC Board. Ralph, can you bump it over there?
I know Ripon isn't in the CCIW.........  I was just trying to give mwunder some reasons as to why they are currently ranked.  Hence me saying both players were All MWC selections.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 11, 2007, 01:26:20 pm
Great info, but Ripon is not in the CCIW. It would work great on the MWC Board. Ralph, can you bump it over there?
I know Ripon isn't in the CCIW.........  I was just trying to give mwunder some reasons as to why they are currently ranked.  Hence me saying both players were All MWC selections.


Gotcha.... my bad!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on January 11, 2007, 02:44:34 pm
Great info, but Ripon is not in the CCIW. It would work great on the MWC Board. Ralph, can you bump it over there?
I know Ripon isn't in the CCIW.........  I was just trying to give mwunder some reasons as to why they are currently ranked.  Hence me saying both players were All MWC selections.
Gotcha.... my bad!
No problem.....  Anyone that played for the same coach as Dean Muthig can't be too bad of a guy!!! ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 11, 2007, 05:55:20 pm
No problem.....  Anyone that played for the same coach as Dean Muthig can't be too bad of a guy!!! ;D

Muthing (The Pride of Clintonville, WI) was my boy. He was handed to me when I was a senior and he was a freshman and I was told to get him ready for the next season. He backed me up until I graduated and then he blossomed as a hitter and quickly became an all-american.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on January 11, 2007, 07:14:27 pm
No problem.....  Anyone that played for the same coach as Dean Muthig can't be too bad of a guy!!! ;D

Muthing (The Pride of Clintonville, WI) was my boy. He was handed to me when I was a senior and he was a freshman and I was told to get him ready for the next season. He backed me up until I graduated and then he blossomed as a hitter and quickly became an all-american.


Muthig was one of the most feared hitters in the CCIW.  Too bad he got injured after he was drafted.  I always wondered how far he would have gone in the minors.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on January 12, 2007, 10:49:14 am
BP, did you play with Glen Braun at all? I still find it amazing he was the d-3 player of the year and didn't get drafted. I heard a story about him his senior year that has actually happened to a few other great Carthage players....he hit terrible on the Florida trip, can't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like 0 for or 1 for the trip. Then, got back and went on to hit over .500 and win player of the year. Carthage's baseball trophy case looks great. Besides all the conference championship plaques, how many schools have a Gold Louisville Slugger honoring the player of the year and the Golden Spikes award that Augie won (just added to the display in the tarc less than a year ago)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 12, 2007, 11:57:31 am
BP, did you play with Glen Braun at all? I still find it amazing he was the d-3 player of the year and didn't get drafted. I heard a story about him his senior year that has actually happened to a few other great Carthage players....he hit terrible on the Florida trip, can't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like 0 for or 1 for the trip. Then, got back and went on to hit over .500 and win player of the year. Carthage's baseball trophy case looks great. Besides all the conference championship plaques, how many schools have a Gold Louisville Slugger honoring the player of the year and the Golden Spikes award that Augie won (just added to the display in the tarc less than a year ago)

Braun was also a freshmen when I was a senior. We were loaded that year and neither he nor Muthig got much playing time. He should have been drafted as should have Shorty Flees. There are tons of Carthage guys that get over looked every year, but the pitchers usually get a shot at pro ball.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 15, 2007, 11:41:00 pm
Carthage Preview from the website:

2007 Season Preview:   Carthage returns a veteran team on the field, with all nine starters returning, plus two players who started in 2005 and missed most of last season with injuries.  The returnees include catcher David Wuis (Sr., Kalamazoo, Mich./Comstock, .340, 23 RBI), first baseman Tyler Yapp (Sr., Madison, Wis./La Follette, .325, 11 doubles, four home runs, 43 RBI), second basemen Steve Rucks (Sr., Elgin, Ill./Larkin, .333, 8 doubles, 18 RBI) and Anthony Gragnani (Sr., Niles, Ill./Skokie-Niles West, .309, 16 RBI, 11 stolen bases), shortstop Seth Romano (.321, four doubles, 16 RBI), centerfielder Boe Baitinger (Jr., Appleton, Wis./East, .379, 10 doubles, 23 RBI, 27 stolen bases, a .982 fielding percentage), leftfielders David Hermes (Jr., Fort Atkinson, Wis., .298, 10 doubles, three home runs, 21 RB) and Tyler Creekmore (Jr., Winthrop Harbor, Ill./Zion-Benton Township, .284, eight doubles, 15 RBI), rightfielder Steve Coughlin (Jr., Sturtevant, Wis./Salem-Westosha Central, .336, four home runs, 24 RBI) and designated hitter Moses Barker (Sr., Brookfield, Wis./Fort Worth, Texas-Southwest HS/Southern Nazarene University, .266 seven doubles, 13 RBI).  First baseman Chris Sadjak (Sr., Arlington Heights, Ill./Buffalo Grove), who was named second-team All-CCIW in 2005 with a .345 average, 10 doubles, three home runs and 34 RBI, hopes to bounce back from both a thumb injury and a broken foot.  Shortstop Jose Alba (Sr., Hanover Park, Ill./Hoffman Estates), who started all 43 games in 2005 and batted .275 returns from a leg injury.   “We hope to have Chris Sadjak and Jose Alba on the field most of the time,” says coach Schmidt, “but if not, we have a lot of unselfish players who we know can play at this level.  We have a great depth of players who played a lot in 2006.  We played 15 of 16 kids last year pretty consistently, and we may go the same route this year.  If somebody cools off, we might just ride the hot guy.  However things shake out, our team on the field should be very strong.”  With the graduation losses of pitchers Scott Evosevich (8-0, 1.51 ERA) and Jon Olson (7-1, 2.54 ERA), second-team All-CCIW honoree Jacob Husing (Jr., Iron Mountain, Mich., 6-2, 2.65 ERA) and Chris Krepline (Jr., Brillion, Wis./Reedsville, 4-1, 2.81) will anchor the starting rotation.  “Our pitchers are very, very confident,” admits coach Schmidt, “but I don’t know if they realize how good those two seniors were.  There aren’t many NCAA Division III schools that have a Jacob Husing as a number-three starter.  We’ll need to play better defense in 2007 and score more runs, and some of the other pitchers who did nice things at times in 2006 need to step up in 2007.  If that happens, I think the this year’s team has a shot at being pretty good.”
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on January 16, 2007, 02:49:37 pm
That preview can be a little misleading.  Tyler Creekmore didn't get much playing time last year (although many thought he should have.)  Also, Seth Romano only began to start the last 5-6 games of the season or so.  He just got some time when Warren Even had a slight injury, and hit so well that he stayed in the lineup during the conference tourney, some as a DH.  Also, Rucks and Gragnani basically split time last season, and most likely will again this year depending on who's swinging the bat better.  Sadjak staying healthy will be a huge key for Carthage Offensively.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 16, 2007, 03:04:43 pm
That preview can be a little misleading.  Tyler Creekmore didn't get much playing time last year (although many thought he should have.)  Also, Seth Romano only began to start the last 5-6 games of the season or so.  He just got some time when Warren Even had a slight injury, and hit so well that he stayed in the lineup during the conference tourney, some as a DH.  Also, Rucks and Gragnani basically split time last season, and most likely will again this year depending on who's swinging the bat better.  Sadjak staying healthy will be a huge key for Carthage Offensively.

Regardless, Carthage has a ton of experience coming back and should be considered the favorite in the CCIW. I also think that has to put either Carthage or Aurora as the Regional favorite right now with Augustana in third. As a whole, I think this region is weak other than the three mentioned teams and I would expect another region to shift a team or two into the Central at tournament time. Usually it is the South (Millsaps 2006, Mississippi College 2005, etc...)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on January 17, 2007, 10:17:15 am
BP, I agree, I in no way was trying to say Carthage doesn't have a lot of talent and should be considered the favorite in the CCIW once again this year.  I was just saying someone who may only follow Carthage from afar a little here and there may think wow Carthage has all 9 starters back in the field, which isn't exactly the case. The only real loss for them is 3rd Baseman Warren Even who had a very solid career at Carthage. Other than that you are right, everyone is back, plus Jose and Sadjak return which can only help
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 17, 2007, 10:23:20 am
Sounds like another solid year for the Redmen. I cannot wait for the season to kick-off.
Title: RE: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 18, 2007, 12:12:12 am
How does Elmhurst look this year? I know they have their CCIW Player of the Year from 2006 back, but did they add anything around him that offers line-up protection?

How are the players reacting to a new coach?

Will they make a run for a CCIW tourney spot this year? One has to think that Carthage, Augustana and IWU are going to be there as they usually are, but who has a shot at the final spot?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 20, 2007, 08:50:25 pm
BigPoppa's CCIW Predictions:

1. Carthage (automatic bid)
2. Augustana (at-large bid)
3. Illinois Wesleyan
4. Elmhurst
5. North Park
6. Millikin
7. North Central
8. Wheaton

Thoughts? Disagreements? ... or am I right on?!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on January 22, 2007, 10:42:56 am
I'd say you're right on with the top 3, the next 5 is anyone's guess. I know north park was much improved last year, I can't remember what they finished in conference. Fifth seems a little high for them, but not as far fetched as it would've seemed a year ago.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 22, 2007, 12:48:06 pm
I'd say you're right on with the top 3, the next 5 is anyone's guess. I know north park was much improved last year, I can't remember what they finished in conference. Fifth seems a little high for them, but not as far fetched as it would've seemed a year ago.

North Park was 4th last year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on January 22, 2007, 03:00:48 pm
Wow, I had no idea they finished that high.  I just remember watching them play at Carthage and all the "sober fans" in left field yelling non-stop at Ozzie Guillen's son when he made an error
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bob Maxwell on January 22, 2007, 04:32:26 pm
Big Poppa,

Carthage lost three of their starting pitchers... all look like they were pretty good.  But the good news is they only lost 2 players from an everyday lineup that hit .331 and went 34-9.

Looks like they are set up to have a good season if the young pitching comes through... have they replaced the 3 guys that they lost?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 22, 2007, 05:56:36 pm
Big Poppa,

Carthage lost three of their starting pitchers... all look like they were pretty good.  But the good news is they only lost 2 players from an everyday lineup that hit .331 and went 34-9.

Looks like they are set up to have a good season if the young pitching comes through... have they replaced the 3 guys that they lost?

They always lose 2-3 of their starting pitchers and they just slide another one in and tell him to get the job done. They usually do. They use their younger guys in mid-week, non-conference games to get them ready for the CCIW games the following year. It seems to be a system that works.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 22, 2007, 05:58:20 pm
But the good news is they only lost 2 players from an everyday lineup that hit .331 and went 34-9.

And get back two original starters that missed most of last season due to injury. Offense should not be their problem this season. If they have their typical season on the hill, they will be there in the end.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Dixon on January 23, 2007, 12:15:34 pm
[They always lose 2-3 of their starting pitchers and they just slide another one in and tell him to get the job done. They usually do. They use their younger guys in mid-week, non-conference games to get them ready for the CCIW games the following year. It seems to be a system that works.

This is a tactic that is used universally through all college baseball.  Conference wins are at such a premium, you cannot send your best pitchers against a non conference opponent if they will miss a conference start. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on January 23, 2007, 12:58:19 pm
Carthage only lost 2 of their conference starters, and one of the guys stepping in (Jeff Livek) many felt was as good if not better than the 3 conference pitchers last season. Jacob Husing should be back at 100%, he had arm surguery before last season and pitched well, but not as well as I think he'll do this year. The top 2 spots are taken care of, hopefully someone can step in and pitch well in the 3rd spot that is open. On a side note, looks like the rocket is heading back to new york. Cano said he would gladly give up #22 for Clemens. I say Rocket, come to Milwaukee!!  ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bob Maxwell on January 23, 2007, 01:22:05 pm
Carthage looks fairly solid in the CCIW with that much coming back... it appears to me that Augustana lost from last year will be hard to replace.  How do they look this year?

Also, Illinois Weslyan lost a lot too.

How does the rest of the conference look? 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 23, 2007, 02:00:08 pm
Carthage looks fairly solid in the CCIW with that much coming back... it appears to me that Augustana lost from last year will be hard to replace.  How do they look this year?

Also, Illinois Weslyan lost a lot too.

How does the rest of the conference look? 

Augustana and Illinois Wesleyan may have lost a lot, but they usually fill those spots very well. Carthage, Augustana and IWU are head and shoulders above the rest of the CCIW right now. The battle will be for 4th place as it is wide open right now. I have to think it comes down to Elmhurst or North Park.

Here is how the last 20 years played out:


1987 North Park
1988 North Central
1989 Illinois Wesleyan
1990 North Park

1991 North Central
1992 Carthage
1993 Carthage
1994 North Central
1995 Carthage

1996 North Central
1997 Elmhurst
1998 North Central
1999 Carthage
2000 Carthage

2001 Illinois Wesleyan
2002 Carthage
2003 Carthage
2004 Illinois Wesleyan
2005 Illinois Wesleyan
2006 Carthage
 Seems pretty clear  that it has been dominated by Carthage- 8 titles,  North Central (6)and IWU(4). Augustana has always had solid teams, but cannot seem to get the CCIW title.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Bob Maxwell on January 25, 2007, 12:24:25 pm
BigPoppa,

Thanks for the History lesson on the CCIW... interesting.  I can't find the information on the SUNYAC (its in a pile somewhere around here...), but it reads something like this over the last 10 years ( I can't remember farther back... LOL):
1995 - 2003 Cortland
2004 Brockport
2005 & 2006 Cortland again...

Although both 2005 & 2006 were interesting as Oneonta was one game away from winning in 2005 (lost 2-3 & 3-14 after they ran out of pitchinng...), and Brockport was the same in 2006 (lost 5-8 & 2-4 in two good games...)

I see that Carthage will play Cortland in Port Charlotte, Florida on March 14th.  Should be an interesting early season game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 25, 2007, 01:00:54 pm

I see that Carthage will play Cortland in Port Charlotte, Florida on March 14th.  Should be an interesting early season game.


Carthage/Cortland will be a great battle down south and Carthage pitching is set for their #1 to come back for his second start. I am not certain how Cortland's schedule matches up down south, but it should be a great game either way. A good trip for both teams coupled with a win in that game could vault either one of these programs into the top ten.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on January 25, 2007, 01:27:57 pm
If I remember correctly off the top of my head, Carthage beat Cortland down in Florida last year, but lost to Wheaton Mass.  I believe both were in the top 10 at the time, and Carthage was somewhere in the top 25
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on January 25, 2007, 01:31:16 pm
If I remember correctly off the top of my head, Carthage beat Cortland down in Florida last year, but lost to Wheaton Mass.  I believe both were in the top 10 at the time, and Carthage was somewhere in the top 25

You are correct. They beat Cortland 4-2 and lost a few days later to Wheaton (Mass) 3-2.  The Redmen went 6-4 on last year's trip, the worst record on a trip in over 15 years. They were very young last year and did not click until they came back from the southern trip.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 01, 2007, 03:15:07 pm
If there were to be an All-Time CCIW Baseball Team, Who makes the first team? One has to think that CCIW Players of the Year are first to be nominated.

Anybody have a list of all-time greats from each CCIW school?

My guess is it would be dominated by Carthage, IWU and North Park guys with one or two North Central guys mixed in. Thoughts?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 01, 2007, 08:58:19 pm
Just my thoughts on the All-time Carthage team:

P- Cory Everts '90-93 (2x All-American)
P- Dan Falkingham '90-93 (2x All-American)
P- Jeff Kaeppler (0.00 ERA in 1974)
P- Ryan Taylor '94

C- John Zuleger '92-95 (2x 1st Team All-American)
1B- Mark Beyer '93-96 (1st team All-American)
2B- Ryan Lessner '97-00 (All-American)
SS- ????
3B- Dean Muthig '96-99 (2x All-American)
OF- Shorty Flees '94-97 (3x All-American)
OF- Glen Braun (NCAA Player of the Year) '96-99
OF- Gavin Winfield (All-American- also a great LHP) '94-97
OF- Jack Richarz (NCAA all-time walks leader) '92-95

Can anyone help me fill in the shortstop? It has always been to one big hole in Carthage's teams.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 02, 2007, 02:45:57 am
This is my NPU team. It strongly reflects the Park's baseball heyday, which was the 1980s. Mr. B, who is much more familiar with the past decade and a half of NPU baseball than me, might make some different choices.

P - Pete Zajac ('84-'87)
P - Alan Keller ('81-'84)
P - Dan Mason ('80-'83)
P - Tim Naughton ('79-'82)

C - Dan Casas ('90-'93)
IF - Steve Zetterlund ('85-'88)
IF - Craig King ('89-'92)
IF - Tony D'Andrea ('87-'90)
IF - Paul Biocic ('82-'85)
OF - Randy Ross ('81-'84)
OF - Brad Boelkens ('93-'96)
OF - Mark Slager ('81-'84)

You could have a strong three-way argument over the catcher's spot, since North Park had three outstanding ones during the '80s and early '90s: Scott Paulson, Gary Paulson, and Dan Casas. Scott Paulson was a three-time All-CCIW first-teamer, and Gary Paulson was a two-time All-CCIW first-teamer and the CCIW POTY in '88. But Casas combined both of the peak achievements of the Paulson brothers: He was a three-time All-CCIW first-teamer and the CCIW POTY in '92. Plus, he had to carry a couple of teams as an upperclassmen that lacked the talent of preceding seasons, whereas the Paulson brothers always had a lot of great talent surrounding them.

Randy Ross, who is arguably the greatest player in North Park baseball history, played shortstop for most of his career. However, since the Vikings have a much stronger legacy among infielders than outfielders, I moved Ross to the outfield. He played centerfield as a freshman for the Park, and was good enough at it to be an All-CCIW first-teamer at that position.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 11:39:42 am
This is my NPU team. It strongly reflects the Park's baseball heyday, which was the 1980s. Mr. B, who is much more familiar with the past decade and a half of NPU baseball than me, might make some different choices.

P - Pete Zajac ('84-'87)
P - Alan Keller ('81-'84)
P - Dan Mason ('80-'83)
P - Tim Naughton ('79-'82)

C - Dan Casas ('90-'93)
IF - Steve Zetterlund ('85-'88)
IF - Craig King ('89-'92)
IF - Tony D'Andrea ('87-'90)
IF - Paul Biocic ('82-'85)
OF - Randy Ross ('81-'84)
OF - Brad Boelkens ('93-'96)
OF - Mark Slager ('81-'84)



I was a freshman at Carthage when Casas was a senior at NPU. He scared the crap out of me all year long. He was a very intimidating catcher who always seemed to get the job done. He would chirp at me while I hit... it drove me nuts! I was glad to see him graduate.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 02, 2007, 04:27:01 pm
Not sure about shortstop, but if you were going to have a DH, I would certainly say Jason Lensmeyer, who was also an All-American. Defensively, I would say Fellin was good enough, but he didn't quite have the offensive numbers. That guy was a wizard with a baseball glove though
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 02, 2007, 04:43:42 pm
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll.html (http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll.html)

ABCA poll was released today. Carthage jumped to #8 in that one.  Let the debating begin... who is too high/low?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: cubs on February 02, 2007, 06:43:06 pm
ABCA poll was released today. Carthage jumped to #8 in that one.  Let the debating begin... who is too high/low?
Even though I am a WIAC guy, I think Whitewater may be a little too high at #12.  They only lost three seniors, however there were all quality players.  Eddie Adamson was their best offensive player last season (production wise) and Keller was arguably their #1/2 pitcher.  Both these guys were 1st Team All WIAC selections.  The third senior, Nick Teach, was their starting 2B until being bit by the  injury bug.

Are they the 2nd best team in the WIAC, possibly, but they definitely are going to have to find some players to step in and replace the production they lost.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on February 06, 2007, 10:35:06 am
If there were to be an All-Time CCIW Baseball Team, Who makes the first team? One has to think that CCIW Players of the Year are first to be nominated.

Anybody have a list of all-time greats from each CCIW school?

My guess is it would be dominated by Carthage, IWU and North Park guys with one or two North Central guys mixed in. Thoughts?
Just taking a quick glance at the CCIW site, I think you'd have to include Rob Daggett of Elmhurst and Ken Ritter of North Central in any discussion as the only two-time CCIW players of the year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on February 09, 2007, 06:46:56 pm
Now that football is done I am so ready for some baseball!!! Anyone else?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on February 09, 2007, 10:00:42 pm
This is my NPU team. It strongly reflects the Park's baseball heyday, which was the 1980s. Mr. B, who is much more familiar with the past decade and a half of NPU baseball than me, might make some different choices.

P - Pete Zajac ('84-'87)
P - Alan Keller ('81-'84)
P - Dan Mason ('80-'83)
P - Tim Naughton ('79-'82)

C - Dan Casas ('90-'93)
IF - Steve Zetterlund ('85-'88)
IF - Craig King ('89-'92)
IF - Tony D'Andrea ('87-'90)
IF - Paul Biocic ('82-'85)
OF - Randy Ross ('81-'84)
OF - Brad Boelkens ('93-'96)
OF - Mark Slager ('81-'84)

You could have a strong three-way argument over the catcher's spot, since North Park had three outstanding ones during the '80s and early '90s: Scott Paulson, Gary Paulson, and Dan Casas. Scott Paulson was a three-time All-CCIW first-teamer, and Gary Paulson was a two-time All-CCIW first-teamer and the CCIW POTY in '88. But Casas combined both of the peak achievements of the Paulson brothers: He was a three-time All-CCIW first-teamer and the CCIW POTY in '92. Plus, he had to carry a couple of teams as an upperclassmen that lacked the talent of preceding seasons, whereas the Paulson brothers always had a lot of great talent surrounding them.

Randy Ross, who is arguably the greatest player in North Park baseball history, played shortstop for most of his career. However, since the Vikings have a much stronger legacy among infielders than outfielders, I moved Ross to the outfield. He played centerfield as a freshman for the Park, and was good enough at it to be an All-CCIW first-teamer at that position.
All excellent choices!  I would also add three more recent All-CCIW honorees plus one player who never got all-conference recognition:

IF Cory Clark: a second-team All-CCIW player in 1999, he played just two years at North Park but put up some very solid offensive numbers.  He was probably the most effective team captain the Vikes have had over the past decade, a real leader who showed his teammates how to play the game with energy.

P Tim Dykes: also a second-team selection in 1999, he was a real competitor on the mound.  He was another natural team leader on the best four-man rotation (along with Andrew Postek, Shelly Cohen, and Joe Miller) that North Park has had in two decades.

1b/DH Curtis Tate: one of the most feared clutch hitters in the CCIW, .425 in 1999 and .362 with 10 HRs in 2000.  I also admired his quiet leadership, plus he had one of the most perceptive baseball minds of any player I've seen in my years at North Park.

P Jeff Hanson: a quality pitcher on some very bad teams.  He holds many of the school's pitching records, including IP and strikeouts.  He was a true workhorse in the same mold as Tim Dykes -- give him the ball every week and he'd go out and give you a quality effort every time. 

I'd bet that any coach in the CCIW would have loved having these four players on their teams -- they were  leaders on and off the field and really understood the game and all its nuances.

There are a few other recent players that would have a shot at the "all-time North Park team," but I don't want to crowd the dugout!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on February 12, 2007, 11:25:06 pm
Augie lost their top pitcher, but their 2 and 3 are back.  Word is they have some pretty solid young arms.  They are also getting their catcher from a couple years ago back who missed last year.  He was first team all-region his junior year.  They might have the best team speed of any team in the conference, and their outfield might be the best in the conference as well.  I'd look for Augie to challenge Carthage for the title.

Also heard that Cummings left IWU.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Titan Q on February 13, 2007, 11:44:38 am
Augie lost their top pitcher, but their 2 and 3 are back.  Word is they have some pretty solid young arms.  They are also getting their catcher from a couple years ago back who missed last year.  He was first team all-region his junior year.  They might have the best team speed of any team in the conference, and their outfield might be the best in the conference as well.  I'd look for Augie to challenge Carthage for the title.

Also heard that Cummings left IWU.

Rob Cummings is now a Gaucho, at UC-Santa Barbara.  On a day like today - with a blizzard that has all of B-N shutdown - I can't blame the kid!


http://ucsbgauchos.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/cummings_robby00.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Dixon on February 13, 2007, 12:22:34 pm
Also heard that Cummings left IWU.

Rob Cummings is now a Gaucho, at UC-Santa Barbara.  On a day like today - with a blizzard that has all of B-N shutdown - I can't blame the kid!

http://ucsbgauchos.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/cummings_robby00.html

Now that is good news. 

UCSB -84
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 13, 2007, 01:07:05 pm
Augie lost their top pitcher, but their 2 and 3 are back.  Word is they have some pretty solid young arms.  They are also getting their catcher from a couple years ago back who missed last year.  He was first team all-region his junior year.  They might have the best team speed of any team in the conference, and their outfield might be the best in the conference as well.  I'd look for Augie to challenge Carthage for the title.

Also heard that Cummings left IWU.

Rob Cummings is now a Gaucho, at UC-Santa Barbara.  On a day like today - with a blizzard that has all of B-N shutdown - I can't blame the kid!


http://ucsbgauchos.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/cummings_robby00.html

Anybody leaving the CCIW(especially IWU) for the warmer weather of Southern California is great news for Carthage fans!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on February 13, 2007, 10:13:03 pm
He left IWU, not Augie.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 15, 2007, 01:33:51 pm
I'm right with ya FB44. Its always a great time to relax (in hopefully some pleasant weather, definitely not always the case at Carthage Home games during March and April) and listen to what Augie will have to say next from the dugout....oh yeah and consume a few beverages as well!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2007, 02:01:57 pm
"Who is going to win the CCIW this season?
North Central   1 (6.3%)
Augustana   2 (12.5%)
Carthage   7 (43.8%)
North Park   2 (12.5%)
Wheaton   3 (18.8%)
Millikin   0 (0%)
Illinois Wesleyan   0 (0%)
Elmhurst   1 (6.3%)
 
Total Voters: 16"


How did Wheaton get more votes than Illinois Wesleyan?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on February 15, 2007, 02:18:29 pm
More Wheaton fans/parents/players visiting the site?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on February 15, 2007, 02:46:43 pm
1st post!!!!!!

I am wondering how the CCIW will fare against the Northern Athletic Conf. (Aurora, Rockford,etc....)?

Just think by Tuesday it will be above 32 and we will all be wearing shorts!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on February 15, 2007, 03:12:23 pm
The CCIW usually fares very well against everyone in the conference except Aurora it seems.  Last year Augie choked away a lead against Rockford and lost, but usually handles Concordia and Dominican fairly easily.  Don't know much about the NAC this year though.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 15, 2007, 03:28:19 pm
Aurora is the only team in that conference that could compete yearly in the top half of the CCIW.

They should run away with that title this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 15, 2007, 03:50:52 pm
I agree, Aurora should win the conference no problem year in and year out as long as they keep recruiting quality players. Some pretty average at best teams in that conference.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gotberg on February 19, 2007, 07:45:40 pm
Sage or anyone else that might know NPU athletics,

Is Shelby Wood still attending NPU?  I was surprised not to see him on the baseball roster considering he was an all-state performer in Michigan.

http://www.northpark.edu/baseball/2007/Players.cfm
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on February 19, 2007, 08:02:17 pm
Sage or anyone else that might know NPU athletics,

Is Shelby Wood still attending NPU?  I was surprised not to see him on the baseball roster considering he was an all-state performer in Michigan.

http://www.northpark.edu/baseball/2007/Players.cfm

As far as I know, he's still at North Park.  He was a three-sport athlete in high school (football, basketball, and baseball), but he must have decided to concentrate on football only at NPU. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on February 19, 2007, 08:08:42 pm
The CCIW usually fares very well against everyone in the conference except Aurora it seems.  Last year Augie choked away a lead against Rockford and lost, but usually handles Concordia and Dominican fairly easily.  Don't know much about the NAC this year though.
I agree with knarocky and Big Poppa: the CCIW usually matches up very well against the former NIIC teams.  Last year North Park shut out Rockford 11-0 at the home field, were edged by Benedictine, lost to Dominican, beat Concordia, and got knocked around by Aurora.  The Spartans are a very deep squad and never seem to be short of pitching.  They would regularly battle it out for top dog of the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 20, 2007, 02:53:49 pm
Its nice to see that there's a D3 Baseball sight now as well.  For anyone interested, here's the link to the profiles of Carthage's returning players, as well as the new in coming freshman:
http://carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 20, 2007, 03:05:52 pm
I think this could be the year the REDMEN return to the World Series. They are loaded with returners who battle to a CCIW title in a "down year" and had great experience in the NCAAs last year with a very young team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 20, 2007, 04:29:39 pm
BP I hope you're right. I look for Carthage to have solid pitching once again, but maybe no quite the stats the top 3 put up last year, along with Krepline and Livek. On the flip side, I look for them to also put up better offensive numbers as a team this year. Knowing Augie, I'm sure he wouldn't mind seeing that one bit. I'd be willing to bed Augs would rather see  12-4 wins over a 3-1 wins any day of the week
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Fawkes316 on February 20, 2007, 06:55:23 pm
I'm not going to pick Wheaton to win the conference, but they have been showing steady improvement and I expect that will continue this season. Coach Elder has been there for awhile, there is stability, and better talent. They had a pretty decent season last year, and I expect it again this year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on February 21, 2007, 11:47:13 am
Augustana starts their season off on Saturday in Port Charlotte, FL with two games; one against Franklin and the night cap against Hanover.  Here is a link to the Vikings schedule.

http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/baseball/schedule.php
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 21, 2007, 11:49:17 am
Augustana has a nice start with two Southern trips... one to Florida and another Arizona. We should have a great feel for them in two weeks.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 21, 2007, 02:49:07 pm
Go to D3baseball.com, there's a great picture of Carthage's Boe Baitenger. Article is titled "central region up for grabs."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 22, 2007, 11:59:34 am
REDMENFAN... how does the Carthage team look from an on-campus point of view? I certainly think they should be favored to win the CCIW again. Pitching will be a concern early, but their offense should be back to its old form. I doubt their offense will ever reach the heights that the teams in the mid to late 90s did, but very few college teams ever reach that level.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on February 22, 2007, 12:05:41 pm
Here's the link to the preseason poll:
http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/2007preseasonpoll.php

Carthage gets 6 1st place votes and is the favorite. 

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 22, 2007, 12:14:39 pm
REDMENFAN... thanks for the link. I posted the story below. I have to say that it is very close to my own prediction.

CCIW Baseball
Carthage Picked to Win CCIW Baseball Title in Latest Coaches Poll

NAPERVILLE, Ill. – The Carthage Red Men were picked to defend its College Conference of Illinois & Wisconsin (CCIW) baseball title according to a poll conducted by the eight head baseball coaches Wednesday.

Carthage, currently ranked eighth in the latest American Baseball Coaches Association Division III Baseball Poll, took first with 48 points, including six of the eight first place votes. The Red Men won the conference title last season with a record of 19-2. Augustana (15-6 in 2006) finished second in the preseason poll with 44 points, including two first place votes. The Vikings are also nationally ranked in the ABCA poll as they are currently tied with Ithaca at 16th in the nation.

Illinois Wesleyan (14-7) was third in the preseason poll with 37 points, while Wheaton (8-13) was fourth with 25 points. North Park (8-13) was fifth (21 points), while North Central (7-14) was sixth (19 points). Millikin (8-13) was seventh with 18 points, while Elmhurst (5-16) was eighth with 12 points.

Voting in the preseason poll is done by the baseball coaches in the CCIW. Each coach votes for the seven other schools in the conference in order of predicted finish. Points are assigned in reverse order of voting (seven points for first, six for second, etc.). Coaches may not vote for their own team.

The CCIW baseball season begins Feb. 24 as Augustana faces Franklin College on its Spring Break trip in Port Charlotte, Fla.

Team Points (First Place Votes) 
Carthage             48 (6)
Augustana           44 (2)
Illinois Wesleyan  37 
Wheaton              25 
North Park            21 
North Central       19 
Millikin                  18 
Elmhurst               12 

 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on February 22, 2007, 04:27:01 pm
BP, I haven't really seen much of Carthage this year at all, but I know most of their players, and have seen them all play last year. Working full time now and doing some coaching myself, I haven't gotten to see the Redmen practice. Based on who I know is on the team and having seen them play quite a bit, as well as playing with a few of them, I look for the Redmen repeat as conference champs with Augustana providing the most competition.  Florida will be interesting to see how some of the younger guys throw, but Carthage's three conference starters should be solid.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 23, 2007, 01:15:19 am
NPU also starts off its season against Franklin, as the Vikings take on the Grizzlies in a doubleheader a week from Saturday down in Indiana. Then North Park is off to Phoenix for a week of games against various D3 and NAIA teams.

Lots of new names on the NPU roster. I'm going to have to see what sort of a scoop I can get on the newbies.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on February 23, 2007, 07:43:56 am
NPU also starts off its season against Franklin, as the Vikings take on the Grizzlies in a doubleheader a week from Saturday down in Indiana. Then North Park is off to Phoenix for a week of games against various D3 and NAIA teams.

Lots of new names on the NPU roster. I'm going to have to see what sort of a scoop I can get on the newbies.
Lots of new names, but not many losses because of graduation (Vladimir Torres, Oscar Ibarra, Brett Cooper).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on February 26, 2007, 01:50:55 pm
Augustana(2-0) got off to a nice start on Sunday in Florida:

Augustana 2, Franklin 0

Augustana 11, Hanover 9

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augiefan on February 26, 2007, 06:16:16 pm
Augie actually beat Hanover and Franklin on Saturday. They moved to 3-0 yesterday with a 6-0 win over Rose Hulman. Their next game is tomorrow against Catholic University.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on March 01, 2007, 12:55:13 pm
REDMENFAN -

Are you gonna be at the "smoker" this weekend? I might be able to make it on Saturday. So if I go I will hopfully see you there.

When is Carthage's first game?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: KYGrizzly on March 01, 2007, 02:17:20 pm
Here is a link for some action photos of Augustana's games in Port Charlotte. I saw a man taking the pictures and he gave me the website that you can view and purchase the photos.

If I mess the link up go to www.petertravers.com and work your way thru the menu to the pictures.

http://www.bhtphotos.smugmug.com/University%20Sports%202006-07/291006 (http://www.bhtphotos.smugmug.com/University%20Sports%202006-07/291006)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 01, 2007, 11:37:32 pm
Augie wins 6-4 over Catholic today and moves to 4-0 on the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 02, 2007, 10:55:53 am
FB44, I probalby won't make it. I gotta coach my team in a tournament all weekend, or else I'd love to be there. Give me a call if you stay in town though, a few of the old roommates are going to be in town and we're all going out Saturday night!  On another note, racine product Vinny Rottino went yard yesterday for the brewers against the A's. Promising 3rd baseman Ryan Braun hit a grandslam and a 3-run homer. Go brew-crew!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on March 02, 2007, 02:08:45 pm
FB44, I probalby won't make it. I gotta coach my team in a tournament all weekend, or else I'd love to be there. Give me a call if you stay in town though, a few of the old roommates are going to be in town and we're all going out Saturday night!  On another note, racine product Vinny Rottino went yard yesterday for the brewers against the A's. Promising 3rd baseman Ryan Braun hit a grandslam and a 3-run homer. Go brew-crew!

Well I don't think im gonna make it now because of weather and I will be up all night at a concert so I will catch you on the flip side  ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 02, 2007, 11:27:46 pm
Well I don't think im gonna make it now because of weather and I will be up all night at a concert so I will catch you on the flip side  ;D

John Tesh??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 03, 2007, 12:37:48 am
Augie split with Grove City today.  They end their first trip 5-1.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 03, 2007, 08:29:40 pm
Not a bad start for Augustana right out of the gate. It bodes well for the CCIW if 2-3 team have great trips and make runs at the NCAAs.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedmenFB44 on March 04, 2007, 12:09:47 pm
Well I don't think im gonna make it now because of weather and I will be up all night at a concert so I will catch you on the flip side  ;D

John Tesh??

HAHA... close breaking benjamin, three days grace, and nickelback.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 04, 2007, 11:30:15 pm
Actually, I was mistaken, Augustana had one more game left on their trip and defeated Concordia (Minnesota) 18-13 to end the trip 6-1.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 05, 2007, 12:42:34 am
Actually, I was mistaken, Augustana had one more game left on their trip and defeated Concordia (Minnesota) 18-13 to end the trip 6-1.

Which Concordia in Minnesota? Concordia-St. Paul is a D2 school. Concordia-Moorhead is a D3 school.

NPU's opener at Franklin was snowed out. No word on when, or if, the game will be rescheduled.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 05, 2007, 10:32:10 am
Moorhead
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: matblake on March 05, 2007, 12:18:18 pm
Wheaton wins on Saturday in Arizona 8-5 vs Concordia-Chicago (previously River Forest).  Today's game v Beloit should be just underway.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 05, 2007, 02:05:37 pm
Former 1st base coach at Carthage over the last 4 years Jarvis Brown is off to a 3-0 start after the weekend as head coach of UW-Parkside. Losing him and Cibbs is a huge blow to the coaching staff, but I'm sure Augie and the rest of the coaches will still do a great job this year getting the guys ready
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: matblake on March 05, 2007, 02:09:09 pm
At the Wheaton website you can hear an interview with Coach Elder. 
http://www.wheaton.edu/Athletics/baseball/index.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 05, 2007, 03:38:24 pm
Former 1st base coach at Carthage over the last 4 years Jarvis Brown is off to a 3-0 start after the weekend as head coach of UW-Parkside. Losing him and Cibbs is a huge blow to the coaching staff, but I'm sure Augie and the rest of the coaches will still do a great job this year getting the guys ready

What happened to Cibby??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on March 05, 2007, 07:17:20 pm
First time post.

Augie came back 6-1 from their first spring trip.  A bright offensive trip finished up with a team AVG of .325, led by lead off hitter CF Marc Blakeley (.517, 4 2B, 3B, 3 HR, 10 RBI), C Jake Meisenbach (.407, 5 2B, 10 RBI) and Freshman 1B Tyler Anderson (.438 in 4 games).  The offense should continue to be a strength of the team as the majority of a strong line-up from last year is returning and three freshman (Anderson, Eric Izzo and Mike Odenthal) seemed to make a most of their opportunities to earn the remaining starting spots at 1B and 3B.

The team's starting pitching was strong, as it should have, with Kuntz and Engle anchoring the rotation and Junior transfer Eric Knott recording 14Ks in 13IP.  Numerous freshman got their chance in bullpen action as well, but only time will tell how the pitching staff will look after Kuntz/Engle/Knott.  A 10 run meltdown in the last 4 innings against 1-6 Concordia-Moorhead including 7 BBs is something they will surely look to improve on next weekend in Arizona. 

The Vikings will take on UW-La Crosse, University of Chicago and Monmouth College next weekend in Phoenix, AZ.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 06, 2007, 07:58:10 am
BP, Cibbs just simply wanted to spend more time with his family. He has a few young daughters and wants to be see their softball games, etc.  This will be his second year now not coaching.  He is still at a lot of the home games, but the time committment was too much with his girls growing up.  Cibbs was always a player favorite, the best bp thrower I've ever seen, and has a great baseball mind.  Hopefully he'll decide to help out the Redmen again in the future.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 08, 2007, 06:14:32 pm
North Park leaves for its spring trip (Russ Matt Tournament in Phoenix) Friday morning.  We will face McDaniel, Monmouth (IL), Dickinson (PA), Macalester, UW La Crosse, and Montclair State.  I will try to post updates throughout the week. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 09, 2007, 02:48:48 pm
Heading to Phoenix Saturday, might get to see some college games if I don't go to any Cubs and/or Sox games, hee! hee!!!!
80 degree days, I'm leaving Chicago in shorts.

Good luck to all you CCIW teams!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 09, 2007, 03:53:54 pm
Great article in the Kenosha News today about Carthage's upcoming season. A few things I remember about the article is that Augie stated he feels this years team is a bit overrated. The writer stated that Augie never gets into all the preseason hoopla, and normally at the end of every season Carthage is on the verge of winning the conference and competing to make it to the world series.  The article stresses that after Jacob Husing, the staff is unproven, but all 9 starters return in the field. Augie used a great line about David Hermes saying: he hits the ball 9 miles when he gets a hold of one.  Ultimately the article is primarily about two players: Jacob Husing and Boe Baitinger. Augie stated that every single major league team had someone in during fall ball to talk to him, and that he legitimately touched 94 mph on a few separate occasions in front of the scouts. Also, that he compliments his fastball with a curveball, changeup, and slider.  About Boe, Augie said Boe is without a doubt the best outfielder he's ever coached, its not even close, and that includes all the former all conference and all american performers. Augs also mentioned there used to be games you could just pencil in as victories, but the conference is not like that anymore. He said Augustana, Wesleyan, and a much improved Wheaton team should contend for the conference crown. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 09, 2007, 03:58:13 pm
Here's the beginning of the article, for some reason it only gives the first few paragraphs: http://kenoshanews.com/articles/index.php?articleNum=792232
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: matblake on March 09, 2007, 04:54:23 pm
Thanks for the overview Redman.  Sounds like a decent article.
Title: Carthage v Coe, game 1
Post by: mwunder on March 10, 2007, 02:38:06 pm
Carthage wins vs Coe, 3-1, in game 1 of their doubleheader today.  Jacob Husing picks up the win for the Red Men.  Freshman Corey Richardson picks up the save.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 10, 2007, 06:25:55 pm
Carthage lost game two 2-0, Jeff Livek was the tough luck loser, don't know any other details
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 10, 2007, 06:38:38 pm
North Park dropped its season opener, 13-7, to McDaniel College.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 11, 2007, 05:07:25 pm
Carthage moves to 2-2 on the season. The Red Men split a Saturday DH with Coe College (IOWA) and an Sunday DH with Ohio Wesleyan. This certainly is a disappointing start for the #8 ranked Red Men. It appears that their pitching is doing the job early on, but their bats are unusually quiet to this point. I would expect that to change quickly as Coach Augie Schmidt will have a quick hook on guys that do not produce at the plate.

Per the Carthage Website:

In the opening game, Ohio Wesleyan scored three unearned runs in the third inning, following a one-out fielding error by Red Men shortstop Jose Alba.  The Battling Bishops’ A.J. Dote hit a two-run double in the inning.  Carthage got two runs back in the bottom of third on a two-run homer by Boe Baitinger, the first Carthage collegiate home run for the junior centerfielder.  Baitinger hit one home run his freshman year at Chaffey College.  The Red Men tied the game, 3-3, in the fourth on a two-out RBI-single by Anthony Gragnani.  Ohio Wesleyan took a 4-3 lead in the sixth on a leadoff, solo home run by Kyle Sherman.  The Red Men took their first lead of the game in the sixth off Battling Bishops relief pitcher Matthew Struble.  With two outs, Baitinger tripled just inside the rightfield foul line, scoring Seth Romano with tying run.  Gragnani singled up the middle to score Baitinger with the go-ahead run.  Starting pitcher Chris Krepline (1-0) went the distance for the Red Men.  Krepline allowed four runs, only one earned on six hits and a walk, while striking our five batters.  Baitinger went three-for-three with a double, a triple, a home run and three RBI.

In the nightcap, Ohio Wesleyan took a 1-0 lead in the second inning off Carthage pitcher Ryan Roufus on a base-loaded walk to Joey McDaniel.  The Red Men tied the game, 1-1, in the fourth when Mike Hughes led off with his second double of the game, advanced to third on a wild pitch and scored on a sacrifice fly by Jose Alba.  Carthage took a 2-1 lead in the fifth when Anthony Gragnani led off with a single, advanced to second on a sacrifice bunt and scored on a double by Chris Sadjak.  The Battling Bishops knotted the game, 2-2, in the fifth on an RBI-double by Sean Ring.  Ohio Wesleyan won the game with a run in the bottom of the seventh.  Kyle Sherman opened the inning with a base on balls and advanced to second on a sacrifice bunt by A.J. Dote.  Sherman stole third, and with two outs, scored on a throwing error by Carthage third baseman Tyler Yapp.  The loss went to Jordan Williams (0-1), the third of four Carthage pitchers.  Ryan Roufus started the game.  Corey Richardson replace him in the second inning before giving way to Williams in the sixth and Andy Henning in the seventh.


Updated Standings:
Augustana (Ill.) (6-1)
Wheaton (Ill.) (3-3)
Carthage (2-2)
Elmhurst (1-1)
Millikin (1-2)
North Park (0-1)
North Central (0-3)
Illinois Wesleyan (0-4)


IWU at 0-4 is a surprise to me... as is Wheaton at 3-3. I try not to put too much weight into the spring trips as they usually use it to sort out the CCIW line-ups for the conference games, but it could be a very interesting CCIW season this year.
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 11, 2007, 06:59:47 pm


Quoting Coach Augie Schmidt IV on the March 11 Ohio Wesleyan Split:  “We played well defensively in the first game, especially after how poorly we played on Saturday.  We got a couple of clutch hits and won the game.  Ohio Wesleyan has a nice ball club, but I don’t think they’re better than us.  Boe Baitinger did a nice job and hit a home run—he doesn’t do much of that.  Chris Krepline pitched seven strong inning, and our one through three pitchers look pretty good right now.  In the second game, Ryan Roufus just didn’t have it today.  He no control over anything, so we hooked him pretty quick.  Then we battled back, and it turned into a great ball game.  Corey Richardson did a very nice job in middle relief.  We hit some balls hard—they just got caught.  It was tough losing the game on an error, but we didn’t score enough anyway.”

Carthage faces Concordia (WI) tomorrow in another DH. I expect the Red Men to hammer the Falcons and get geared up for their showdown with Cortland State on Wednesday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 12, 2007, 01:41:01 am
NPU really tanked on Sunday against UW-LaCrosse down in Phoenix. 19-1? Yikes. That's a score that's right out of the bad old days at the end of the Vandenbranden era. What the heck happened to the Vikes, Mr. B?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: KYGrizzly on March 12, 2007, 08:28:54 am
Actually, I was mistaken, Augustana had one more game left on their trip and defeated Concordia (Minnesota) 18-13 to end the trip 6-1.


NPU's opener at Franklin was snowed out. No word on when, or if, the game will be rescheduled.

Franklins revised schedule shows North Park now playing the Grizzlies on Sunday March 25th @ 1:00pm as a double header.

This is the same weekend that Franklin was to open conference play at home against Bluffton.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 12, 2007, 11:17:32 am
Hopefully the Carthage bats wake up today. A few Augie comments from Sunday's paper:
"The second game might have been the worst game I've ever seen as a coach"
"Even when we won four games in 1988 we at least caught the ball and threw the ball"
"It says we had 5 errors, but it really was eight!"

In today's paper, Augie is very happy with his top 3 pitchers and what they did, and obviously not thrilled about the hitting
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 12, 2007, 11:19:00 am
Ex Carthage assistant Jarvis Brown also has UW-Parkside off to a 4-1 start after take 2 out of 3 against Parkside's former head coach Tracy Archuleta who's at Southern Indiana
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2007, 12:53:50 pm
Hopefully the Carthage bats wake up today. A few Augie comments from Sunday's paper:
"The second game might have been the worst game I've ever seen as a coach"


I heard that speech many times when I was playing for Augie. Carthage always struggles on Day #2 of their spring trip. After a huge game on Wednesday with Cortland, they could be set up for another let down on Thursday. Hopefully not :)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 12, 2007, 03:32:35 pm
Carthage won game 1 today 4-0 on a 3 hit shutout by Brian Keefer I believe was the name on the hotline, and is currently trailing 3-2 in the second game
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 12, 2007, 04:43:15 pm
Carthage for the 3rd day in a row lost the second game of a doubleheader, losing 5-2 to Concordia, WI.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 12, 2007, 04:48:12 pm
This is a terrible start for our Red Men... hopefully they can regroup in time to beat Cortland tomorrow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedMan1 on March 12, 2007, 10:35:48 pm
This is a very bad start for Carthage. I really didn't see them having any trouble with their first 6 games. Cortland will obviously be a tough test. The Redmen need to start playing some defense. We shall see how they respond the rest of the week.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 13, 2007, 02:04:55 am
Actually, I was mistaken, Augustana had one more game left on their trip and defeated Concordia (Minnesota) 18-13 to end the trip 6-1.


NPU's opener at Franklin was snowed out. No word on when, or if, the game will be rescheduled.

Franklins revised schedule shows North Park now playing the Grizzlies on Sunday March 25th @ 1:00pm as a double header.

This is the same weekend that Franklin was to open conference play at home against Bluffton.

That's rather morbid, filling in for Bluffton like that. I'd be a little creeped out by it if I was on the NPU baseball team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2007, 11:00:07 am
Quote from Augie in today's paper: "We had to find out about a our pitching on this trip, and what we're finding out, unfortunately, is that we can't hit.  I don't know how that works.  We've had a terrible approach at the plate, and we've made every base-running mistake you can make.  We're deservedly 3-3 right now, and if we don't pull things together, we'll be right about there all year."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2007, 11:17:41 am
Quote from Augie in today's paper: "We had to find out about a our pitching on this trip, and what we're finding out, unfortunately, is that we can't hit.  I don't know how that works.  We've had a terrible approach at the plate, and we've made every base-running mistake you can make.  We're deservedly 3-3 right now, and if we don't pull things together, we'll be right about there all year."

I hope they sort it out soon... it is killing me to see it play out this way.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2007, 12:43:16 pm
Last year Carthage went 6-4 on their spring trip I believe, and still managed to have an outstanding season, but I really thought they'd be more like 5-1 right now, as I'm sure most others did. The most shocking part is that they aren't hitting the ball. When you got that much talent and experience, there's no excuse for only scoring a few runs a game, or getting shut out.  I keep waiting for them to break out of the funk and score 10 or 12 runs in a game, hopefully it happens sooner rather than later
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2007, 12:47:03 pm
Last year Carthage went 6-4 on their spring trip I believe, and still managed to have an outstanding season, but I really thought they'd be more like 5-1 right now, as I'm sure most others did. The most shocking part is that they aren't hitting the ball. When you got that much talent and experience, there's no excuse for only scoring a few runs a game, or getting shut out.  I keep waiting for them to break out of the funk and score 10 or 12 runs in a game, hopefully it happens sooner rather than later

Carthage is always one of the best offensive teams around. I also find it shocking that they are not scoring runs. I have a great feeling that it will click tomorrow versus Cortland State. I would assume that Carthage will throw Jacob Husing again for his second start of the spring trip. A few runs could win it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2007, 01:09:06 pm
Jacob's arm should be ready. I know he left the game Saturday in the 7th because of heat cramps, but the paper said he'll be fine.  I'm sure Cortland is saving one of their horses as well for the Redman. They might be better off throwing a junk baller or not one of their best. I imagine Carthage hasn't seen top notch pitching their first six game, with the exception of maybe Ohio Wesleyan throwing someone good.  It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Carthage saw the best pitcher they've faced up to this point tomorrow, and also have their best game hitting.  Carthage, for as long as I've known, has always been able to hit the fast  ball no matter how hard its coming in.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 13, 2007, 01:15:41 pm
The way to beat Carthage is, and always has been, with junk-ballers. The harder you throw it against the Red Men, that harder it comes back through the box.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 13, 2007, 02:10:34 pm
Another thing that is different this year is remember two amazing coaches who are extremely knowledable about hitting are gone. Obviously Augie knows as much as anyone, but getting feedback from Augie along with Jarvis and Cibbs could only benefit a player. Plus, anyone who's played for Augie knows he'll tell you something you're doing wrong during a game, but don't expect him to be nice about it in any way, shape or form, whereas Cibbs and Jarvis would sit you down for a minute, calm you down, and talk things out and let you know what they're seeing.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 13, 2007, 08:16:58 pm
North Park won its first game of the season, 14-0 over Monmouth (IL).  Andy Sherwood had a no-hitter through six innings and ended up with a four-hit complete-game shutout.  The Vikings exploded for 7 in the sixth inning and added a pair in the seventh and five more in the eighth.  Every Viking player scored at least one run, and seven starters had multi-hit games.  The Vikes (1-3) have Wednesday off before facing #2 Montclair State on Thursday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 14, 2007, 10:04:54 am
Augie stated in today's paper that Cortland (6-0) may very well be the top team they face all year, and they're going to play hard and see what happens. The short article did not mention who will take the mound today for Carthage, Husing's arm is hopefully ready. Also, congrats to NP on their first victory this season
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: youcantseeme on March 14, 2007, 12:30:30 pm
The way to beat Carthage is, and always has been, with junk-ballers. The harder you throw it against the Red Men, that harder it comes back through the box.

That is not completely true this year though.  The kid from Coe who threw the 6 hit shutout on day one was throwing upper 80's all day long.   
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2007, 02:22:59 pm
Jacob Husing Named CCIW Baseball "Pitcher of the Week"

Carthage College’s Jacob Husing (Jr., Iron Mountain, Mich.) was named College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin “Pitcher of the Week” on March 12.  Husing defeated Coe College, 3-1, in the Red Men’s season-opening game on March.  He allowed one unearned run on seven hits and two walks, while striking out six batters.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 14, 2007, 02:33:53 pm
Carthage/Cortland started late because of the previous game in front of them. Going into the bottom of the 1st Cortland is up 1-0... Youcantseeme: I'm pretty sure BP was saying for the most part junk ballers have been effective vs. Carthage teams of the past. Of course there are always exceptions (Lapinski from IWU blew them away for two years.)  For the most part though, Carthage has been a fast ball hitting team and crushes pitchers who throw hard with no solid off-speed pitches (the other pitcher from IWU who got drafted the same year as Lapinski comes to mind.) Carthage completely tore the cover off the ball against him because his curveball and change-up were non-existent, so his 88-90mph fastball wasn't hard for Carthage to hit.  Who knows, maybe this years team is a junk ball hitting team, but that's about as likely as the thought that Carthage could be under .500 after 7 games in florida :-\
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 14, 2007, 03:10:42 pm
Carthage is down 4-2 after 3 innings, Ryan Roufus is on the hill for Carthage. I guess Husing's arm wasn't ready to go...
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 14, 2007, 03:12:35 pm
Too bad Husing is not going today... would have been a great matchup for him.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 14, 2007, 03:51:26 pm
I'm guessing if it was the playoffs or something like that, he could've gone, but Augie most likely didn't want his ace throwing on 3 days rest only a few days into the season. Most consider Saturday to Wednesday 3 days rest (Sun-Tues a full 24 hours), he should be fine tomorrow on 4 full days of rest, which is how they do it in the minors and in the big leagues
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 14, 2007, 03:52:27 pm
Carthage now down 5-2 after 5 innings, Jordan Williams is now on the mound in relief
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Jim Dixon on March 14, 2007, 06:15:41 pm
Carthage Baseball Falls to 3-4 with 6-2 Loss to SUNY-Cortland on Wednesday in Port Charlotte, Fla.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on March 14, 2007, 06:38:08 pm
Updated Records as of 3/14

Augustana 6-1
Elmhurst 1-1
Carthage 3-4
Wheaton 3-4
North Park 1-3
Millikin 1-4
North Central 0-3
IWU 0-4

Not a good start for a conference that is generally strong in non-conference play.  I know it isn't a huge indicator of things to come as each team plays a different spring schedule, some being much stronger than others, but hopefully the teams iron out their flaws in time for conference play.


Does anyone have an update on the North Central situation?  I see that only 9 players show up in the stats and they are hitting .208 as a team. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thelou on March 14, 2007, 08:34:53 pm
Millikin is off to a 1-4 record.  Thier bats seem to be alive scoring 42 runs in five games.  On the other hand, thier pitchers are giving up touchdowns on the scoreboard.  Just a matter of time before it all clicks...hopefully.  They leave for Port Charlotte with first games starting Monday morning. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2007, 01:00:34 am
Carthage Baseball Falls to 3-4 with 6-2 Loss to SUNY-Cortland on Wednesday in Port Charlotte, Fla.

Absolutely heart-breaking start for Carthage fans. I am speechless right now.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 15, 2007, 01:14:31 am
Also, congrats to NP on their first victory this season

NPU's next game in the Snedigar tournament is tomorrow (Thursday) against #3 Montclair State. I'm not particularly looking forward to seeing the final score of that game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 15, 2007, 02:19:47 am
Saw the 4 games for NPU and the defense was atrocious, I felt bad for the pitchers who had good outings.
The officials for games 2 & 3 were definitely out of the twilight zone, nothing went right and it was defense, defense, defense that dug the early grave.

I see good things with 12 freshmen and 2 pitchers (transfers) that will make this team competitive and dangerous during the last 3rd of the conference season into the playoffs.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 15, 2007, 02:44:50 am
Good to hear that, Yank. Any of the Vikings stand out to you in particular?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2007, 09:20:52 am
Here's the link to the Carthage article today. The first half is about parkside, but the second half is about the Carthage game and has a few things Augie has to say.
http://kenoshanews.com/articles/index.php?articleNum=826761
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2007, 10:43:00 am
It has been pretty painful to "watch" this progress from the West Coast. I think the Red Men were a bit too confident in bringing their entire line up back from last year. Often that leads to complacency. Competition for starting spots is what drives the pre-season workouts into high gear and it appears that Carthage hitters are completely lost right now.

NOTE TO CARTHAGE HITTERS: Figure it out!!!!!!! Every year, the CCIW teams say that this is the year that Carthage has a down year and it never is. You owe it to yourselves, and your fans, to work harder than you ever have before in the cages. "Great players are those who are mentally comfortable with being  physically uncomfortable."
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 15, 2007, 10:48:54 am
Is that really what they're trying to say when Carthage is voted to finish first pretty much every year (and if not first then second)?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thelou on March 15, 2007, 10:52:55 am
Auggie will have this Carthage team ready to go before the CCIW starts.  Spring break is a good time on, and I'm sure off the field for Auggie and the team.  When they get back to Kenosha, Carthage will be back on track.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 15, 2007, 12:45:34 pm
Answer to question: who is up on the NPU team?

It looks like the 2 pitchers I saw game 3 ( Tom Neckopoulus) looked decent, fielding was there for 1/2 game, lost opportunities made the difference in 5 to 2 loss.
(Andy Sherwood) 4hit complete game shutout, defense outstanding, with many on the field contributing. Finally timely hitting opened the floodgates and boosted some averages.

Kuta, hitting and fielding, Burback in right making plays every game (with the sun out there and the clear blue skies), Josephson showed some flash at 3rd, and Marino at short, now that he has some games under his belt.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2007, 12:50:48 pm
I agree with the lou that Carthage will most likely get back on track and without a doubt will compete for the conference championship, its just disappointing they're not performing in Florida.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: thelou on March 15, 2007, 01:02:04 pm
I'm not going to look into spring break too much.  they are usually playing teams they dont know and are having a good time down there.  once the come back to the cciw they will still be one of the teams to beat.  I think Millikin is the last team in the CCIW to leave for break.  they come home and open up against North Park who swept them last year.  It will be interesting how both Millikin and North Park will come out to open the CCIW season.  There is no doubt that North Park kept Millikin out of the tournament?  Does anyone know how that Fear and Law kid are doing at Millikin?  What about thier leadoff hitter they had last year? Is he gone?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2007, 02:33:37 pm
Not sure about those players from Millikin, I just remember a few years back their head coach looked pretty young, and man was he a hothead! Not in a jerk way that made you not like him, but just screaming a lot and getting on the umpires, it was actually quite hilarious!! :D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2007, 03:33:08 pm
Carthage is up 3-0 in the 7th inning, all their runs are unearned, and Husing is on the mound for the Redmen
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 15, 2007, 04:10:16 pm
Carthage wins 5-0. Husing moves to 2-0 with a complete game 5-hit shutout. He struck out 8 and walked one. That's all the details that are on the hotline up to this point. St. Joes is now 2-7, and at least the first 3 Carthage runs were unearned. A win is a win, but it still doesn't sound like Carthage's bats are clicking with only 2 games left in florida
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 15, 2007, 04:17:41 pm
I guess being disappointed with a 4-4 start is the sign of a great program. I am positive they will turn it around and get it sorted by the time they move back north of the Mason-Dixon line.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 16, 2007, 03:36:31 am
Answer to question: who is up on the NPU team?

It looks like the 2 pitchers I saw game 3 ( Tom Neckopoulus) looked decent, fielding was there for 1/2 game, lost opportunities made the difference in 5 to 2 loss.
(Andy Sherwood) 4hit complete game shutout, defense outstanding, with many on the field contributing. Finally timely hitting opened the floodgates and boosted some averages.

Kuta, hitting and fielding, Burback in right making plays every game (with the sun out there and the clear blue skies), Josephson showed some flash at 3rd, and Marino at short, now that he has some games under his belt.

Thanks, Yank.

NPU lost to Montclair State, 10-7. I'll defer to Mr. B when he makes his report, but given the high national ranking of the Red Hawks this appears to have been a pretty good game for the Vikes -- especially since the two teams were even in hits with 11 apiece and the NPU pitchers only gave up four earned runs. Josephson, Kuta, and Burback all had good days with the bat for the Vikings. Once again, it was bad defense (four errors, two apiece by Marino and O'Donnell) that sunk North Park.

NPU takes on Macalester today in the concluding game of the Snedigar tourney.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 16, 2007, 09:14:13 am
Here's the link to the article about the Carthage game in the newspaper today, there is an absolute classic quote from Augie about what its like right now for Carthage to try and score runs
http://kenoshanews.com/articles/index.php?articleNum=832042
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 16, 2007, 10:39:49 am
You can always count on Chief Red Men(Augie) to liven the quotes up a bit. I use many of his quotes from my playing days with my own high school team right now. They think I am an idiot, but the quotes always make sense.

I recall a time when one of our pitchers got lit up in florida and when he wanted ice for his arm Augie told him to put in on his neck for the whiplash he was sure to develop after watching balls zing past him all day.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 16, 2007, 11:55:38 am
CCIW UPDATE:

Currently, the CCIW teams are a combined 17-25 this spring. A pretty dismal start to the season for the conference. Hopefully they can all get rolling this weekend and boost those numbers.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 16, 2007, 12:18:00 pm
Something to chew on while waiting for today's scores to pour in...

Team ERAs:
1. Carthage- 1.51 (if they could play defense/hit, this would be a deadly combination)
2. Augustana- 4.34 (great start at 7-1 right now)
3. Ill Wesleyan- 4.85 (About where they are expected to be)
4. Elmhurst- 5.40 (only 2 games in right now... not a good measure yet)
5. North Park- 5.79 (Not bad, but too early to tell)
6. North Central- 7.50 (need to improve on the hill to compete)
7. Wheaton- 7.76 (doubtful they can be a playoff contender with that ERA)
8. Millikin- 11.31 (Could be a long season...)


We should have a good feel for the CCIW teams by the end of the week as most will have their spring trips in (except Elmhurst who is just beginning theirs).

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 16, 2007, 12:40:59 pm
Carthage defeated Clarkson in the first game today 5-1, Jeff Livek was the winning pitcher. Currently in the 3rd inning in the second game it is 0-0 and Carthage's number 3 pitcher Krepline is on the mound. That's all the details I have right now
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 16, 2007, 12:45:40 pm
Keep the updates coming Redmenfan... I cannot get a cell-signal where I am today to make the call.

5-1 win is nice, but it still sounds like they are not swinging it too well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 16, 2007, 01:53:24 pm
Carthage won the second game 8-2, Chris Krepline finished with 10 strikeouts, that's all the details the hotline had to this point.  Carthage comes home with a 6-4 record, the same as last year so although they shouldn't be thrilled, overall not a bad trip. The good news: Carthage was 5-1 when their 1-3 pitchers started, the only loss was to Coe and Jeff Livek only gave up 2 unearned runs. The bad news obviously: they went 1-3 in games not started by their top 3 guys. Unless those younger guys can pick it up, and the defense and hitters start supporting those young pitchers, Carthage could struggle with the non-conference portion of their schedule, because Augie will NEVER throw one of his top guys in a non-conference game once conference starts, and that's the right thing to do in my opinion. No matter who you're playing or what they're ranked, you save your top dogs for conference games (often times teams will throw their best at Carthage during a non-conference game)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bataviapete on March 16, 2007, 04:30:11 pm
North Park team ERA is 5.79.  So if Carhtage is 6-4 and Auguie is 6-1 (not sure what they did yesterday) than the rest of the CCIW is 5-20.  That is bad.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 16, 2007, 05:01:10 pm
North Park defeated a hot Macalester team, 10-8.  Macalester upset the College of New Jersey yesterday and were putting up huge run totals on all their opponents, but the Vikings clawed back and played much better defense today.  Evan Berns picked up the win in relief.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 16, 2007, 05:11:17 pm
It looks like this recruiting season is starting to show promise, Berns is a freshman. It is great to see NPU not fall down after a heartbreaking loss to such a good team as Montclair.
I am still concern about the 8 runs but if it shows as a majority of unearned, I'll not be surprised.
Great to see them finish strong 2 out of last 3. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 16, 2007, 06:42:36 pm
It looks like this recruiting season is starting to show promise, Berns is a freshman. It is great to see NPU not fall down after a heartbreaking loss to such a good team as Montclair.
I am still concern about the 8 runs but if it shows as a majority of unearned, I'll not be surprised.
Great to see them finish strong 2 out of last 3. 

Actually there was only one unearned run charged to the Vikings on a freak play -- the Macalester runner was caught in a rundown between second and third, and a throw glanced off his helmet.  He later scored on a sacrifice fly.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on March 16, 2007, 07:03:58 pm
North Park's team ERA might be an average 5.79, but with 16 errors and 20 unearned runs against through 5 games, it doesn't look so good anymore.  It is good to see they are scoring at a decent rate (around 6/game) and even at 2-4 have been very competitive so far given the recent NP history, but we all know you can't win without defense.

It seems as if the NP defense and the Carthage bats are the two things to watch as conference play gets closer.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 17, 2007, 12:51:59 am
Augustana defeated Wisconsin-La Crosse yesterday 8-4 and Monmouth today 7-4 to move to 8-1 on the season.  Here is the link to the Augustana site with the articles from the games.

http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/baseball/
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 17, 2007, 01:49:11 pm
Just a couple quotes from Coach Augie about the Redman's trip in today's paper:

"Our top three pitcher threw great the first time around and all three threw even better the second time around. There aren't many NCAA Division 3 teams with three pitchers like Jacob Husing, Jeff Livek and Chris Krepline. We're going to be in every game this year with that kind pitching."

"I felt a lot better about how we ended this trip than I did earlier in the week.  We swung the bats pretty good today in tough, windy conditions and we played good defense.  Most importantly, we finally got some RBI-Hits."

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 18, 2007, 11:20:39 am
Augustana defeated Wisconsin-La Crosse again yesterday 12-11 in extra innings to move to 9-1 on the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 19, 2007, 01:48:42 am
North Park's team ERA might be an average 5.79, but with 16 errors and 20 unearned runs against through 5 games, it doesn't look so good anymore.  It is good to see they are scoring at a decent rate (around 6/game) and even at 2-4 have been very competitive so far given the recent NP history, but we all know you can't win without defense.

It seems as if the NP defense and the Carthage bats are the two things to watch as conference play gets closer.

The report I got is that NPU coach Luke Johnson is pretty livid about the poor defense exhibited by the Vikings on their spring trip. That is definitely one area that will need to be cleaned up if the Vikes are going to be competitive in the CCIW. Given the dismal start to the season for just about everyone around the league (except for Augustana) it's certainly possible that NPU is just one of many teams around the league struggling to find itself at the moment. But that's of limited consolation.

NPU's home opener is Tuesday afternoon against traditional local power Aurora (6-4). This will be a good test of North Park's mettle.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on March 19, 2007, 07:29:26 am
Augie beat U of Chicago 17-11 yesterday.  They come back from AZ 10-1.  The offense continues to be the teams strength at this point, but a lot of runs have been going up against the Vikings. 

The four games were started by Engle, Knott and then freshmen Matt Erickson and Steve Plettau.  The pitching staff appears to be up for grabs, but Engle and Knott continued to secure their spots and Erickson put up a solid start as well. 

Augie faces Monmouth and Aurora this week.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 20, 2007, 07:43:49 pm
Just saw that NPU beat Aurora, in a come from behind 9th inning rally.
Way to go on your 1st home game!!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on March 20, 2007, 08:36:09 pm
Thats a big win for NP and the CCIW...two wins by Wesleyan as well are a nice change from the slow conference start.


Speaking of Aurora, I included a link to the San Angelo Colts of the United League who selected Aurora's SS Aaron Thor 5th overall in this year's draft.  Thor is a hometown friend of mine and surely gave every CCIW team their share of trouble over the years. 

Does anyone have any updates of other local players from last year who are continuing on this summer?

http://www.sanangelocolts.com/team/?id=1992
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 21, 2007, 01:08:59 am
Just saw that NPU beat Aurora, in a come from behind 9th inning rally.
Way to go on your 1st home game!!!!

It was a back-and-forth affair. NPU jumped out to a 4-1 lead, but squandered it when a sure double play turned into a two-base error and opened the door to a three-run rally by the Spartans in the fifth. Aurora then added two more runs in the seventh to take a 6-4 lead, but NPU rallied with a run in the bottom of that inning and then, with two out in the bottom of the ninth, picked up a couple of walks and scored the game-tying and game-winning runs on a throwing error by the Aurora shortstop.

It was good to see the opposition falter in the field for a change; Aurora made five errors, including the one that lost the Spartans the game. North Park starter Andy Sherwood, the current CCIW Pitcher of the Week, didn't have a great outing, but relievers Brad DeJong, Steve Kleckler, and Joe DiCristina only gave up one run in 3 1/3 innings of relief.

A good, solid home opener win for the Park. The Vikings are now 3-4 thus far on the season.

NPU travels to Benedictine (5-5) for an afternoon game on Wednesday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 21, 2007, 01:43:52 am
Thats a big win for NP and the CCIW...two wins by Wesleyan as well are a nice change from the slow conference start.


Speaking of Aurora, I included a link to the San Angelo Colts of the United League who selected Aurora's SS Aaron Thor 5th overall in this year's draft.  Thor is a hometown friend of mine and surely gave every CCIW team their share of trouble over the years. 

Does anyone have any updates of other local players from last year who are continuing on this summer?

http://www.sanangelocolts.com/team/?id=1992

Then maybe Aaron will take a day off and visit Roscoe, Texas, home of the Roscoe High School Plowboys! ;)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 21, 2007, 09:12:29 pm
Augustana beat Monmouth today 12-3 to move to 11-1 on the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: SouthPaw on March 22, 2007, 12:20:32 am
North Central beats St. Norbert 7-4 to move to 4-5 on the season and 4-2 on their Spring Trip. Have two more games left agaisnt The University of the South tomorrow morning and Manchester College.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 22, 2007, 01:28:31 am
NPU @ Benedictine was rained out on Wednesday. No makeup date was announced on either school's website.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 22, 2007, 01:46:50 pm
Game on 7:00pm NPU @ Benedictine Thursday 03/22/2007
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 22, 2007, 01:49:43 pm
Game on 7:00pm NPU @ Benedictine Thursday 03/22/2007


Nothing better than a night game on a chilly March evening!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 22, 2007, 02:12:45 pm
Temperature 67 degrees with the low of 55 tonight !!!
What a heat wave, must be due to global warming, thanks Al Gore!!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: SouthPaw on March 22, 2007, 04:31:41 pm
North Central beats Sewanee 4-2 this morning.... Kloss pitches 8 strong innings giving up 2 runs (both unearned).  Pluto goes 2-4 with 2 2BS and 3 RBI to lead the Cardinal offense. End their spring trip tomorrow morning against Manchester.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 23, 2007, 01:13:34 am
NPU tanked pretty badly out in Lisle tonight, 9-1. The Vikings made six errors, and Tom Neckopoulous didn't make it out of the third inning. Sounds like it was a pretty nasty step backwards for North Park.

NPU's next opponent is IIT (0-8). The two Chicago schools will face off in a twinbill down at the Hawks' Ed Glancy Field at 31st and Michigan on Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on March 23, 2007, 11:05:15 am
The first game of the season was played on Carthage's field yesterday, only it wasn't the redmen playing! Parkside and former Carthage assistant Jarvis Brown had to have their first "home game" against Lewis at Carthage because Parkside's field wasn't ready. Lewis' starting second baseman Kevin Tyrell also went to Carthage his freshman year, but transferred because he didn't want to sit behind all american adam husing for two years
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: SouthPaw on March 23, 2007, 03:43:04 pm
North Central dropped its final game of its spring trip 6-4 to Manchester. End their spring trip 5-3 and 5-6 overall. Come home and play University of Chicago Wednesday the 28th at home for their home opener.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 24, 2007, 07:41:25 pm
North Park split a doubleheader today with IIT.  In the first game, IIT prevailed 3-2 on a ninth-inning home run that barely cleared the short porch in right (a can of corn in any other park in the country), this after a ball landed a foot fair inside the left-field line.  It was a tough loss, particularly after the effort by starter Kevin Polka and reliever Steve Klecker.

The Vikes bounced back to take the nightcap, 2-0.  Justin Schwan gave up an infield hit to start the game and then held the Red Hawks hitless till the sixth, when they loaded the bases with one out.  Brad De Jong came in to shut the door and pitched a perfect seventh inning for the save.

North Park travels to Franklin, Indiana, tomorrow for a make-up of an earlier rainout twinbill.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 25, 2007, 09:57:52 am
North Park looks like their pitching is coming around, under 5.00.
Today will be a good test Franklin College is 8 and 3, hopefully the offense wakes up.
Next week is the opening of the conference schedule.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 25, 2007, 10:47:23 am
Carthage falls to UW-Stout on Saturday night 6-3.

Jacob Husing was roughed up for 4 earned runs. Couple that with 4 Carthage errors and the loss was inevitable. The Red Men drop to 6-5 on the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 25, 2007, 08:00:38 pm
Looks like North Park is just crawling along, today they split with Franklin College (8 - 3) team from Indiana.
Franklin took the 1st game 8 to 5 then North Park took the 2nd 6 to 4 coming from behind with 5 in the top of the 7th.

This coming week will be pivotal for their season, one game at Western Illinois and then opening up the CCIW at Millikin - 3games.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on March 25, 2007, 08:14:48 pm
Augustana beat Aurora 10-8 today to move to 12-1 on the season. 

Marc Blakeley led off the bottom of the 1st with a homerun for his third lead-off HR of the season and 6th HR overall.  Homeruns by Blakeley, Jake Meisenbach and Don Hansen led the offense.  Brandon Engle picked up the win and Eric Knott worked in relief.  Not a particularly strong outing from either Engle or Knott but they continue to do their job backed by a dominating offense.

The offense moves their average to .357 on the season and is scoring 9.1 runs/game.  They should be a tough matchup for any conference staff. 

Augie plays Loras at home on Tuesday and then has Elmhurst at home for two on Saturday and away on Sunday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Spence on March 25, 2007, 08:16:58 pm
Carthage falls to UW-Stout on Saturday night 6-3.

Jacob Husing was roughed up for 4 earned runs. Couple that with 4 Carthage errors and the loss was inevitable. The Red Men drop to 6-5 on the season.

IIRC, Stout's beaten a few good teams (St. Thomas?) in the early going...perhaps they're taking a step up toward competing with the heavies in the WIAC?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 26, 2007, 03:45:52 am
The first game of the season was played on Carthage's field yesterday, only it wasn't the redmen playing! Parkside and former Carthage assistant Jarvis Brown had to have their first "home game" against Lewis at Carthage because Parkside's field wasn't ready.

I prefer to think of him as "former Kenosha Twin" -- he batted leadoff and played center field on my only trip to Kenosha of any kind.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 26, 2007, 04:17:44 pm


IIRC, Stout's beaten a few good teams (St. Thomas?) in the early going...perhaps they're taking a step up toward competing with the heavies in the WIAC?

Spence- I hope so... Carthage cannot be this bad. The Central region is a mess except for Augustana right now.

Thanks for the info on Stout. (Gotta love a school named after a beer!)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RichK on March 27, 2007, 02:01:32 pm
An updated ABCA poll is out. 

http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/abcapoll.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on March 27, 2007, 06:53:30 pm
Congrats to Augie on jumping to #6...now is the time to validate that ranking in conference play. 

Predictions for Week 1:
Augie 12-1 vs. Elmhurst 3-7 (2 @ Augie);     Augie 3-0
Carthage 7-6 vs. NC 5-6 (2 @ NC);              Carthage 3-0
IWU 5-7 vs. Wheaton 5-4 (2 @ Wheaton);  IWU 2-1
North Park 5-7 vs. Millikin 3-9 (2 @ Millikin); North Park 2-1

It will be intersting to see how Augie's pitching plays out as they are down to only 2 set starters, but I think their offense will be too much for Elmhurst to handle either way.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 27, 2007, 07:46:11 pm
Congrats to Augie on jumping to #6...now is the time to validate that ranking in conference play. 

Predictions for Week 1:
Augie 12-1 vs. Elmhurst 3-7 (2 @ Augie);     Augie 3-0
Carthage 7-6 vs. NC 5-6 (2 @ NC);              Carthage 3-0
IWU 5-7 vs. Wheaton 5-4 (2 @ Wheaton);  IWU 2-1
North Park 5-7 vs. Millikin 3-9 (2 @ Millikin); North Park 2-1

It will be intersting to see how Augie's pitching plays out as they are down to only 2 set starters, but I think their offense will be too much for Elmhurst to handle either way.

Agree with most of what you are saying, Augie28, but I think Carthage only takes 2 of 3 from North Central.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 27, 2007, 08:47:49 pm
Predictions for Week 1:
Augie 12-1 vs. Elmhurst 3-7 (2 @ Augie);     Augie 3-0
Carthage 7-6 vs. NC 5-6 (2 @ NC);              Carthage 3-0
IWU 5-7 vs. Wheaton 5-4 (2 @ Wheaton);  IWU 2-1
North Park 5-7 vs. Millikin 3-9 (2 @ Millikin); North Park 2-1

Augie 2 -1
Carthage 2-1
Wheaton 2-1
North Park 2-1
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 27, 2007, 10:53:18 pm
Augustana beat Loras tonight 10-0.  They scored four runs in the first inning and the game was pretty much over.  Freshmen Mike Pagano (8 innings) and Matt Erickson combined for the shutout.  The Vikings hit the ball ok, but Loras definitely didn't help themselves with 4 errors.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: vmax48 on March 28, 2007, 01:54:21 am
NPU has 3 games at Millikin next weekend & then has 2 games against Wheaton the following Tues.  5 conference games in 4 days is going to be hard on the pitching.  (Wheaton is going to have the same problem too: 5 conf. games in 4 days).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 28, 2007, 08:03:27 am
During this 1st weekend and weekday schedule, each team looks to be pressed to perform.
I can see and will watch how the pitching staffs are managed, now is the time for the freshman to start contributing.  It should give us a look at what the future holds for the teams and maybe we can seem someone take that next step. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 28, 2007, 10:49:11 am
NPU has 3 games at Millikin next weekend & then has 2 games against Wheaton the following Tues.  5 conference games in 4 days is going to be hard on the pitching.  (Wheaton is going to have the same problem too: 5 conf. games in 4 days).

I think the entire CCIW is play three this weekned and a DH on Tuesday. Everyone will be in the same boat. Tuesday could bring some very high scores if Saturday's starters do not recover in time to throw on  Tuesday.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: vmax48 on March 28, 2007, 11:32:46 pm
NPU drops to 5-8 with an 11-5 loss to Western Il. in Macomb.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 29, 2007, 07:59:05 am
NPU threw a freshman at Western, Richards from Lake Zurich, it was his 3rd outing of the year, another freshman followed, Turnbull from Elmhurst, I can see the logic in getting more reps for the younger ones for the conference.
It looks to be a battle for 4th place between (Wheaton, North Central, NPU).
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: matblake on March 29, 2007, 10:55:31 am
Wheaton ties Concordia IL 6-6.  Game was called due to darkness. 
http://www.wheaton.edu/Athletics/baseball/index.html
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 29, 2007, 11:35:28 pm
Predictions for this weekend:

Augie 3-0             Bats are just too much for Elmhurst
Carthage 3-0       Offense finally heats up
Wheaton 2-1       This could go either way, just a hunch
North Park 2-1     Millikin is really struggling
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on March 30, 2007, 08:18:14 am
Wheaton ties Concordia IL 6-6.  Game was called due to darkness. 
http://www.wheaton.edu/Athletics/baseball/index.html

I know it's early yet, but I hope that result isn't too costly down the road if either squad ends up on the bubble as far as getting into the D3 tournament later on. From what little I've heard, Concordia-IL has a good chance of making its' conference playoffs this season.

Just my .04.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on March 30, 2007, 09:53:13 am
That result will have no bearing on if Concordia makes their conference tournament.  Only conference games matter.  As far as an at-large bid, Augustana finished 31-10 last year and didn't get in, so if Concordia plans on making it as an at-large, there is very little room for error the rest of the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on March 30, 2007, 12:15:48 pm
I thought Augustana should have been in last year at 31-10. Especially with as weak of a Central Region as it was last year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on March 31, 2007, 05:26:26 pm
Augustana DH rained out as of 4pm Saturday
Wheaton & Illinois Wesleyan in the 4th with no score.
Nothing yet on North Central or Millikin.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on March 31, 2007, 07:31:12 pm
Augustana DH rained out as of 4pm Saturday
Wheaton & Illinois Wesleyan in the 4th with no score.
Nothing yet on North Central or Millikin.



North Park and Millikin split on Saturday: Millikin wins the first 4-3 on a run in the 7th after the Vikings scored 3 in the 6th to tie.  The Vikings bounce back 4-2 in the nightcap.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Spence on April 01, 2007, 08:26:11 am
IWU swept Wheaton in two low scoring games. IWU doesn't have a great record but Aronson and Inzinga have great numbers. Not sure why neither of them threw against Rhodes or Millsaps, but Wheaton has been hitting everyone they played...had only been limited to less than 6 runs once (against Bethel) and swept Pitt-Bradford.

Bottom line, I think IWU will still be a factor in the conference race.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 01, 2007, 10:09:49 am
Carthage sweeps North Central on Saturday in the CCIW opener for both schools:

 In the opening game, North Central jumped out to a 3-0 lead in the first inning off Carthage pitcher Jacob Husing.  Zack Ernst doubled in the first two runs.  Carthage cut the lead to 3-1 in the third on an RBI-single by Chris Sadjak.  The Red Men went up, 5-3, with a four-run fourth inning.  Boe Baitinger tripled with one out and scored on a wild pitch.  Tyler Yapp doubled in a run, Mike Hughes singled in another, and Tyler Creekmore drove in a run on a fielder’s choice.  The Cardinals made it a 5-4 game in the fifth, but the Red Men added an insurance run in the sixth on a run-scoring single by Steve Coughlin.  Husing (3-1) allowed four runs, three earned, on six hits and a walk, while striking out eight batters.  The loss went Matt Krok (2-1).  Carthage’s Tyler Yapp went three-for-four with an RBI, and Anthony Gragnani went two-for-five.  In the nightcap, Red Men hurler Jeff Livek (3-1) stopped the Cardinals on one run on four hits and a walk, while striking out a career-high 12 batters.  Carthage broke a 1-1 tie in the fifth inning when Mike Hughes scored on a wild pitch.  The Red Men made it 4-1 in the seventh on an RBI-singles by Boe Baitinger and Chris Shannon.  Carthage scored again in the eighth on an RBI-single by David Wuis, and the Red Men tacked on a final run in the ninth on an RBI-single by Tyler Yapp.  Seth Romano went three-for-four, Baitinger two-for-five with an RBI, and Yapp went two-for-four.  Matt Blaine (1-2) took the loss for the Cardinals. 

CCIW STANDINGS:
Carthage 2-0
Ill Welseyan 2-0
Augustana 0-0 ppd
Elmhurts 0-0 ppd
North Park 1-1
Millikin 1-1
Wheaton 0-2
North Central 0-2

This is certainly a step in the right direction for Carthage, but they have a long way to go before they get comfortable in the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedMan1 on April 01, 2007, 05:37:10 pm
Nice win by Carthage today. It is always nice winning 19-2. Carthage hit the ball pretty well today. Wind was blowing out pretty much all day and Krepline threw a very nice game. Nice sweep by the Redmen this weekend!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 01, 2007, 06:08:33 pm
Augie drops game 1 to Elmhurst 6-5;   up 8-1 in the 5th inning of game 2

Bjerga for Elmhurst kept the Augie hitters off balance just enough in game 1.   Eric Knott picked up the loss for Augustana going the distance...he was impressive in the last 3 innings giving the Vikings a chance to come back, but just not enough offense on a very windy day.

In game two, the Augie offense jumped back on track putting up 8 in the first two innings.  Freshman Matt Erickson got the start on the mound. 


A tough start to a stretch of 5 games in 3 days for Augie.  I think their offense will still hold true and be a tough matchup for the CCIW, but not a very impressive conference start against an average Elmhurst team.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 01, 2007, 06:16:30 pm
NPU 4 Millikin 2 in the rubber match, NPU takes 2 out of 3

Great to see Elmhurst get a victory in Conference, this could be a great sign that the top tier is cracking and maybe by years end there will be a great conference tourney.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 01, 2007, 07:50:16 pm
Augustana wins game 2 12-2.

Freshman Matt Erickson went 5 innings giving up 5 hits.  Jake Meisenbach went 3-4 with a Grand Slam and Myles Kurnick went 3-4 with 3 RBI.

A much stronger offensive showing in game 2, but it will still take a few wins to get over a dissapointing game 1. 

Game 3 of the series will be played tomorrow afternoon and then Augie goes to NCC on Tuesday for 2.  I would expect to see Augie's top pitcher Brandon Engle throw tomorrow and then a committee of Freshmen on Tuesday. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 01, 2007, 10:36:50 pm
Nice win by Carthage today. It is always nice winning 19-2. Carthage hit the ball pretty well today. Wind was blowing out pretty much all day and Krepline threw a very nice game. Nice sweep by the Redmen this weekend!!

Carthage's Bo Baetinger tied a single game record with 6 hits. Included in his performance was a homerun to leadoff the first and a triple.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 02, 2007, 12:27:02 pm
Predictions for this 7 day period



Monday, April 2 
Augustana @ Elmhurst, 6 p.m.                Augustana
Wheaton @ Ill. Wesleyan, 3 p.m.           Illinois Wesleyan
Tuesday, April 3 
Augustana @ North Central (2), 1 p.m.  Augustana (2)
Elmhurst @ Carthage (2), 1 p.m.            Carthage   (2)
Millikin @ Ill. Wesleyan (2), 3 p.m.          Illinois Wesleyan (2)
Wheaton @ North Park (2), 3 p.m.         North Park (2)
Thursday, April 5 
Wheaton @ Carthage, 3 p.m.                 Carthage
Friday, April 6   
Augustana @ North Park (2), 2 p.m.       Split Augustana (1) North Park (1)
Ill. Wesleyan @ North Central, 3 p.m.     North Central
Millikin @ Elmhurst (2), 1 p.m.                 Elmhurst (2)
Saturday, April 7 
Carthage @ Wheaton (2), 1 p.m.            Split Carthage (1) Wheaton (1)
North Central @ Ill. Wesleyan (2), Noon Split N. Cent (1) Ill. Wesleyan (1)
Augustana @ North Park, Noon               Augustana
Millikin @ Elmhurst, Noon                         Elmhurst
Monday, April 9 
Carthage @ Marian (2), 1 p.m.                 Carthage (2)
Elmhurst @ Kalamazoo, 3 p.m.                 Kalamazoo
Concordia (Ill.) @ Augustana, 3 p.m.        Augustana


Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 02, 2007, 05:48:30 pm
Make up game tonight:  Augustana @ Elmhurst - 6:00
Should be an easy victory for Augie with their #1 facing either a struggling or first time starter for Elmhurst, but there is a reason they play the game.

Yank, I agree with your predictions for the most part, however I believe IWU will take 2 of 3 from NCC and Augie will sweep North Park, but may have trouble with Concordia depending on how the picthing plays out over the weekend.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 02, 2007, 11:36:10 pm
Augustana 10, Elmhurst 1

Augie moves to 2-1 in conference with the win.  Brandon Engle (4-0) pitched 7 innings for the win.  Don Hansen (3-5)  Mark Ramos (3-5) and John Wagle (4-5, 2 2B) led the offense.

The vikings are now 15-2 overall and are at NCC for a doubleheader tomorrow.


Tomorrow's games should feature a lot of innings from freshman pitchers who have helped Augie so far.  On top of that, Freshman Mike Odenthal and Tyler Anderson at 1B and Eric Izzo at 3B have done their share at the plate. The most surprising newcomer for Augie, though, is sophomore DH Myles Kurnick (.350) who only saw 10 ABs a year ago.....It seems to be these surprise players more than the big names that change everyone's early season predictions so how are other teams newcomers doing this year?  Any big names that we will all know about by the end of the season?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 03, 2007, 09:35:22 am
I seriously doubt that Carthage and Elmhurst will be playing today.  10 hours of rain should have the field pretty well soaked.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 03, 2007, 01:43:16 pm
I seriously doubt that Carthage and Elmhurst will be playing today.  10 hours of rain should have the field pretty well soaked.

Carthage and Elmhurst has been postponed- TBA

I am guessing they may try to play tomorrow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 03, 2007, 06:54:12 pm
North Park took 1st game 8 to 5 vs. Wheaton, heard about over the phone late this afternoon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 03, 2007, 08:45:18 pm
Augustana and North Central Split Doubleheader
Game 1:  NCC 9 - Augie 1
Game 2: Augie 11 - NCC 9

As I mentioned earlier, it was a day full of young pitching for Augie...7 pitchers combined to give up 28 hits in the DH.  Not a good number against a NCC team hitting .275 on the year. 

Both pitching and offense struggled in game one.  Justin Rezzuto shut down Augie until NCC broke it loose in the 4th inning.

The offense showed up again in game two (becoming an all too common theme) and overcame the pitching woes.  Marc Blakeley went 3-5 with a double and his 7th HR.  Don Hansen and Myles Kurnick also both went 3-5 with a double. 

Augie is at North Park for 3 Friday/Saturday
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 03, 2007, 09:01:38 pm
All other games today postponed?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 03, 2007, 09:12:20 pm
North Park took the 2nd game 12 to 2 after hearing via  phone that the score was 0 to 0 at the 5th inning mark.

that makes this series coming up versus Augustana very important in the CCIW.


North Park is 4 and 1 in the CCIW now
 and it is great to see them at 9 and 9 for the season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 03, 2007, 09:35:27 pm
North Park took the 2nd game 12 to 2 after hearing via  phone that the score was 0 to 0 at the 5th inning mark.

that makes this series coming up versus Augustana very important in the CCIW.


North Park is 4 and 1 in the CCIW now
 and it is great to see them at 9 and 9 for the season.


In game #2, North Park was up 2-0 after three (on a Nick Marino homer) and 3-0 after five.  They erupted for 6 in the sixth and put the game away with 3 in the 8th. 

The Vikings were up 5-0 after the first in game #1 and added three more in the 4th on Brady Josephson's three-run shot.  Wheaton scored once in the fifth and then put across four runs with two outs in the seventh. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 03, 2007, 10:07:59 pm
Thank you Mr B, for the correct scoring.  North Park is now 9 and 9 for the season, with a monumental task of facing Augustana this weekend in a 3 game series.
I have recently seen their number one facing Elmhurst, and truthfully I see North Park gaining ground on the top echelon. This year will the a defining point and the subsequent years to follow will surely be a tribute to the recruiting prowess of coach Johnson and the talent of local athletes that he brings to the city.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on April 03, 2007, 10:51:09 pm
Right now I wouldn't quite call facing Augustana in a 3-game series as a monumental task.  The Vikings have already lost conference games to two teams expected to finish in the bottom 3 of the league.  If Augie expects to challenge for the CCIW championship, they better get things figured out, and quick.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 03, 2007, 11:35:36 pm
Enough said, Augustana is cracking;I see the a loss to Elmhurst and a win at  11 to 9.

I like this, only because I like to see competition amongst the  teams of the CCIW
 Funny I'm not one those who year after year see one or tow teams always dominating  a conference.

Go to the underdogs, Augustana has shown weakness and Carthage is no pushover but they can be beat.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: robberki on April 03, 2007, 11:37:21 pm
Stopped by the ol' Holmgren athletic complex to check out some NPU baseball today. I admit being a huge baseball ignoramus but the fellas looked good. Anytime we can smack around Wheaton in anything, I'm all for it.
Luke, Steve, and the other coaches seem to really be putting something nice together at Foster&Kedzie. I hope they choose to stick around for a while.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bball7811 on April 04, 2007, 12:27:29 am
IWU is young, but very fast and talented and will definitely be near the top in the final week of CCIW play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 04, 2007, 01:22:24 am
Stopped by the ol' Holmgren athletic complex to check out some NPU baseball today. I admit being a huge baseball ignoramus but the fellas looked good. Anytime we can smack around Wheaton in anything, I'm all for it.
Luke, Steve, and the other coaches seem to really be putting something nice together at Foster&Kedzie. I hope they choose to stick around for a while.


I didn't go to today's doubleheader because I've been super-busy lately, plus I was sure it was going to rain all afternoon. But I'm sorry I missed it, 'cause, as Rob says, anytime NPU can smack Wheaton around in anything it does my heart good. And it was particularly gratifying to see Kevin Polka go the distance for North Park and pick up the win in the nightcap while only surrendering two runs, since he appears to be the Vikings starter who has struggled the most thus far this season.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 04, 2007, 11:05:37 am
Carthage and Elmhurst have been rescheduled for April 10th.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie_superfan on April 04, 2007, 10:04:46 pm
Does anyone know why Kuntz from Augustana hasn't been pitching since their Florida trip?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 04, 2007, 11:11:41 pm
Does anyone know why Kuntz from Augustana hasn't been pitching since their Florida trip?

I went and looked on the Augie's website and I don't see his name on the 2007 Roster anymore??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 05, 2007, 07:20:32 am
Kuntz suffered an injury in Florida and since is no longer with the team.  An unfortunate loss for a team in need of a third starter. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Scream on April 05, 2007, 10:44:02 am
Rob and Greg - agreed and agreed.

They're starting to be a fun team to watch and they're doing it with good guys it sounds like. 

Since I've never seen a CCIW baseball game anywhere besides Holmgren, let me ask this- what is the attendance like for baseball at other CCIW schools? 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 05, 2007, 02:34:27 pm
Carthage’s scheduled home baseball game versus Wheaton on Thursday, April 5 has been postponed due to cold weather with expected high temperatures in the upper 30s with northwest winds at 15-25 miles per hour.  The two teams remain scheduled to play a Saturday, April 7 doubleheader at Legion Field in Carol Stream, Ill., starting a 1 p.m.  However, Saturday’s forecast calls for temperatures still only in the upper 30s with similar wind conditions and a possibility of snow. If Saturday’s twinbill is postponed, the two teams will play a Monday, April 9 doubleheader at Legion Field, beginning at 1 p.m., and the single game would be played on Monday, April 16 at Carthage, beginning at 3 p.m.

This could be a big test for Cathage as they could play Wheaton twice Monday and once Tuesday, in addition to the previously postponed Elmhurst DH which is resceduled for Tuesday as well plus a single game versus Elmhurst on Wednesday. Mix in a weekend series at Augustana and Carthage could play anywhere from 0-9 CCIW games Saturday this week to Sunday of next week. I am assuming they would cancel the Monday DH with Marian College as a result of the CCIW priority.  If the weather holds off and they can squeeze them all in, Carthage could play an amazing 11 games in 8 days through next week.

Talk about testing your pitching!

http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325 (http://www.carthage.edu/athletics/index.cfm?page=325)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CCIWin07 on April 05, 2007, 04:27:25 pm
Should be an interesting weekend for all CCIW teams. As a parent and ex-player, I would be concerned about the welfare of the players. There are absolutely no positives in playing in 30 degree weather with winds at 25mph.

Any ideas on what will happen with the other CCIW games this weekend? I notice that the weather is supposed to be wicked! Who makes the calls on the games?

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bball7811 on April 05, 2007, 08:17:13 pm
Big tests for all CCIW teams...IWU will be playing at NCC friday, more than likely postponed due to cold weather saturday so will be playing 2 vs. Millikin Monday, 2 vs. NCC tuesday, at Millikin Wednesday, thursday Benedictine and a weekend at North Park...9 games in one week...good luck
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CCIWin07 on April 05, 2007, 08:28:44 pm
I agree. All CCIW teams will have to play this schedule out as is. With the bad weather expected this weekend, pitching will be a priority for all teams.

Any news on other games being cancelled due to the awful weather?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: perfectgame on April 05, 2007, 10:26:40 pm
It seems like the test will be young pitching and what teams have depth. Should be an interesting week. Does anyone know if IWU's games on Monday or Tuesday are in Bloomington?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 06, 2007, 10:58:03 am
Is there any update on the schedule for today and tomorrow (4/6Friday & 4/7Saturday)?
I see today all games are DH's in the Chicago area, temps are in the low 30's with windchill in the teens.
They are predicting snow flurries during the next week.
Where in the world is Al Gore and his "global warming?"
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 06, 2007, 01:49:07 pm
I've got some news on a Wisconsin prep baseball catcher headed North Park's direction:

The link is http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=587459
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 06, 2007, 04:29:34 pm
Any word on any games being played today in the CCIW?

How is the schedule looking for Saturday?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: SouthPaw on April 06, 2007, 07:15:41 pm
NCC drops Game 1 to Wesleyan 9-7. Defense continues to haunt the Cardinals as they have made 20 errors already in conference. If they can tighten that up they should be a lot better.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 06, 2007, 07:35:47 pm
I saw that on the website, they at least update on a timely basis.
I really am getting disappointed with sports anouncements in this league with some teams.
I was watching a little of the Elmhurst/Millikin 2nd game it was top of the 5th 8 to 4 Millikin up, and it is brutally cold, just wait till the sun sets.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 06, 2007, 09:01:57 pm
North Park split with Augie in Chicago.  They scored 8 runs to come from behind and take game #1 11-8.  They were up 3-0 after one inning in game two put couldn't score again, and Augie took the nightcap 5-3.  Don Hansen of Augie was 7-for-9 on the afternoon with three HRs, six runs scored, and seven RBIs. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 06, 2007, 10:01:17 pm
Mr B that is great to hear, now the big mountain needs to be scaled.
NPU needs this rubber match, it will be uplifting for the season and it will be the 3rd series win, 2 out of 3 from Millikin, already 2 from Wheaton.
Who will be pitching on Saturday for Augie's?

I'll surely find time to attend, I hope the student body comes out to give North Park enough heat to sustain them through the snowflakes tomorrow.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 06, 2007, 10:05:09 pm
Mr B that is great to hear, now the big mountain needs to be scaled.
NPU needs this rubber match, it will be uplifting for the season and it will be the 3rd series win, 2 out of 3 from Millikin, already 2 from Wheaton.
Who will be pitching on Saturday for Augie's?

I'll surely find time to attend, I hope the student body comes out to give North Park enough heat to sustain them through the snowflakes tomorrow.


About 60 fans braved the cold to watch the first game, and about 40 stayed for the twinbill. Now those are what I call true fans!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: vmax48 on April 06, 2007, 11:36:38 pm
Dress warm Yank 52.  It was brutal out there today.  Gonna dig out the snowmobile gear for tomorrow.  Even though I'm an NPU fan I have to commend Augie's Don Hansen for the day he had.  2 of his homers went completely over the right field stands.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 07, 2007, 02:35:41 am
Huge game tomorrow for Augie.  They cannot afford to drop to 4-4 after playing Elmhurst, NCC and North Park.  Sure NP has improved dramatically this year, but Augie really needs to step it up.

I am glad to see North Park competing on such a consistant note though.  Coach Johnson has done a phenomenal job of turning the program around in such a short amount of time.

Yank...it looks like Augie will be throwing Brandon Engle tomorrow.  He is hands down their #1 and has been a very consistant pitcher over the last few years.  This year he is 4-0 with a 2.90 ERA in 5 starts.  It also seems that NP threw their top 2 pitchers yesterday, so in my opinion I hope that makes for a good day tomorrow for Augie.  Unfortunately, I can't convince myself to drive in there to sit out in that kinda weather for a few hours, but it should be a good game as it will be a big win for either team.


Also, congrats to Donnie Hansen on a huge day yesterday...7-9, 3HRs
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 07, 2007, 09:00:03 am
Engle maybe the #1 but he is pitching now on only 4days rest, previous 3 outings 16,8 & 8 days rest.
It will be lower 30's with NW winds 15 to 25mph gusting to 30mph, along with snow showers.
NPU will most likely throw Neckopoulus unless the Coach uses DiCristina or Polka to cover. The freshmen won't be used in this important game.

This is exciting, too bad the weather is so nasty.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CCIWin07 on April 07, 2007, 09:27:47 am
To those of you braving this cold weather, I wish you the best as well as all CCIW teams. STAY WARMM!!

I will be at home watching the Cubs inside a controlled environment.  ;D
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 07, 2007, 03:43:02 pm
Final from chilly Chicago: North Park 7, Augustana 4.  Joe Di Cristina outduels Brandon Engle in an exciting contest.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 07, 2007, 04:29:45 pm
14hits, 29degree weather, 75 fans braving the 29degree  temperatures.
NPU now 6 and 6 in CCIW conference and 3 series won.

Congrats to everyone who attended , see the snow in the 2nd inning!!!!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 07, 2007, 04:54:18 pm
14hits, 29degree weather, 75 fans braving the 29degree  temperatures.
NPU now 6 and 6 in CCIW conference and 3 series won.

Congrats to everyone who attended , see the snow in the 2nd inning!!!!!

Actually North Park is 6-2 in conference play.  Thanks to all the hearty fans who attended today's game.  It was well worth the price of admission.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 07, 2007, 05:20:02 pm
Highlights from the North Park-Augie game: Joe DiCristina (3-1) goes 7+ innings, allows 7 hits, strikes out 5.  Tyler Burback hits his second home run of the weekend as North Park collects 13 hits against Brandon Engle (4-1).  Steve Kleckler earns his second save in the three-game series.  For Augustana, Jake Meisenbach was 4-for-5 with two doubles and Chris Pietroski had the only other multi-hit game with two hits.  It was a weekend series with some very exciting baseball to watch!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on April 08, 2007, 11:52:26 am
Looks like Augie is going to be fighting for their conference tournament lives the rest of the season.  The Vikings' season has taken a very, very disappointing turn after a promising start.  Seems like pitching hasn't been very good and they just can't really get anyone out anymore.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 08, 2007, 12:32:51 pm
Looks like Augie is going to be fighting for their conference tournament lives the rest of the season.  The Vikings' season has taken a very, very disappointing turn after a promising start.  Seems like pitching hasn't been very good and they just can't really get anyone out anymore.
I think Augie will be right there when all is said and done.  They are a team that plays fundamentally sound ball, and they hit the ball hard and run well.  Their pitching has been good so far, but we'll see how they handle the rest of the CCIW.  Their series with Carthage will be crucial.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 08, 2007, 10:17:07 pm
Has anyone figured out what this week looks like for the rest of the teams that didn't get their games in this weekend?  I bet it will be an interesting week for the CCIW with lots of conference games in the next 7 days.


Mr B, I agree.  Although Augie has taken a turn for the worse in the last week and a half, I still believe they have the team to get them into the tourney and give anyone a tough game if their pitching picks it up a little bit.  The next two weeks will be huge in determining how tough this Augie team, that was (prematurely?) named a strong conference favorite, really is.  Next weekend's series with Carthage is a must have, and even if they face up against a run down Carthage pitching staff from a long week, they would still be big wins.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 08, 2007, 11:31:54 pm
being a newcomer to this media, I see the Illinois Wesleyan vs North Park more important than the Carthage vs Augustana.
the other teams in the CCIW will filter out, but the top 4 are more important for pecking order.  the pitching will always be the top concern, next to fielding, any time a team that hits above 300 and gets shut down they will lose. 
As of today I see Carthage winning 2 games to 1 at Augustana, but like the man said with this schedule so busy the arms may not be there by Friday/Saturday/ Sunday.  That is why I say the IW vs NPU is the top series of the week.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: perfectgame on April 09, 2007, 12:04:19 am
IWU's schedule:

Monday-  3 pm- Millikin (double-header) Bloomington
Tuesday- 2 pm- NCC (double-header) Bloomington
Wed- 3:30 pm- Millikin- (single game) Decatur
Thurs- 6:00 pm- Benedictine (single game) Lisle
Friday- off
Sat- 3:00 pm- NPU (double header) Chicago
Sun- 12:00 pm- NPU (single game) Chicago
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 09, 2007, 12:47:02 am
This weekend's 2-1 series win marks the first time that NPU has taken the season series from Augustana in 13 years, going back to when Bosko Djurickovic was still North Park's baseball coach. This is therefore a pretty significant step forward for the Luke Johnson regime at NPU, which now has to be considered a force with which to be reckoned in the CCIW. Congrats to Coach Johnson and the Vikings!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: vmax48 on April 09, 2007, 01:06:05 am

I agree with Mr. B.  Augie didn't play bad in this series.  NPU just wanted it bad & kicked their game up a few notches & got 2 wins.  Coach Johnson has them playing at a high level right now.  It was an exciting (& very cold) series to watch.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 09, 2007, 09:37:02 am
hello everyone, been on spring break the past 2 weeks, but I'm back in the mix now. Anyone have a run down on conference records? I know Carthage was cancelled against elmhurst and wheaton. They are going to have to go deep into their pitching staff when making up all those games, as I'm sure a lot of other teams will as well. Big Poppa, how is your season going?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 09, 2007, 09:40:05 am
hello everyone, been on spring break the past 2 weeks, but I'm back in the mix now. Anyone have a run down on conference records? I know Carthage was cancelled against elmhurst and wheaton.
Conference records are updated on the CCIW web page:

http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/index.php (http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/index.php)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 09, 2007, 10:15:28 am
Thanks Mr. B.  I just read the newspaper and saw Carthage's schedule...WOW. If I remember right, today they play a single game at wheaton. A double header tomorrow against Elmhurst (forecast for tomorrow says 1-4 inches of snow) A single against Elmhurst on Wed. or Thurs., then at Augustana all weekend. As I stated earlier, there will be a lot of pitchers throwing who normally don't throw in conference games, should be very interesting to see what's going to happen.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: soxfan14 on April 09, 2007, 11:42:51 am
Does anyone have enough pitching to get thru all the postponed games? Which teams have the deepest staffs to get them thru the gluts of games that will be coming up?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: benchwarmer21 on April 09, 2007, 06:25:13 pm
The team that is best off for the upcoming week is North Park by far, they have the most lax schedule of all the CCIW teams. They have a non-confrence game vs Wabash on tues, a confrence game vs Wheaton on wed then 2 days off til the big series with IWU on the weekend.  This week should be a real test for the other teams. Not only picthing wise but position player wise phyiscally and mentally, it will come down to who wants it more and can prove that.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 09, 2007, 07:52:18 pm
According to the Carthage website, Carthage and Wheaton split today's doubleheader, with the Red Men taking the first game 7-2 and the Thunder coming back with a win in the nightcap 4-2.  Carthage is now 4-1 and Wheaton 1-6 in the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: WLCALUM83 on April 09, 2007, 08:21:59 pm
Augustana just knocked off Concordia-Chicago, 4-3. (Vikings' Izzo knocked in the game-winning runs with a 2-RBI single in the 8th, per box score off Augie site.)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on April 09, 2007, 08:31:51 pm
Augie did indeed squeak out a 4-3 win vs. Concordia-Chicago today.  It didn't seem like either team played particularly well, with both teams leaving a bunch of runners on base.

Both pitchers threw pretty well.  Hantel through a good game for Concordia, keeping the Augie hitters off-balance just enough to keep the Cougars in the game.  Concordia took the lead in the top of the 8th and came right back and gave Augie the lead back 4-3 in the bottom half of the inning.  In the top of the 9th, Concordia had runners on 2nd and 3rd with no one out but couldn't push the tying run across.  Augie pulled the infield in and pitcher Kevin Schuetz induced a groundout to the shortstop, a strikeout (looking), and a groundout to 2nd base to end the game.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: perfectgame on April 09, 2007, 08:59:31 pm
Final from Bloomington:

                IWU vs Millikin
Game 1:    3-0
Game 2:   4-1

IWU improves to 6-0 in conference play while Millikin drops to 2-6
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: benchwarmer21 on April 10, 2007, 10:30:34 am
NPU travels to US Steel Yard Stadium(Gary,IN) today, for a 7pm game againest Wabash College(8-17)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Scream on April 10, 2007, 11:11:14 am
This weekend's 2-1 series win marks the first time that NPU has taken the season series from Augustana in 13 years, going back to when Bosko Djurickovic was still North Park's baseball coach. This is therefore a pretty significant step forward for the Luke Johnson regime at NPU, which now has to be considered a force with which to be reckoned in the CCIW. Congrats to Coach Johnson and the Vikings!

Nail on the head.  I only made it to one of the three games this past weekend - the one NP lost - but it was a blast, even if it was bitterly cold.

It was fun to sit where I was and just hear the quiet shock of the Augie fans realizing that NP is turning into a legitimate contender. 

It's also just nice to have them playing at home again. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: redman04 on April 10, 2007, 12:06:52 pm
This weekend's 2-1 series win marks the first time that NPU has taken the season series from Augustana in 13 years, going back to when Bosko Djurickovic was still North Park's baseball coach. This is therefore a pretty significant step forward for the Luke Johnson regime at NPU, which now has to be considered a force with which to be reckoned in the CCIW. Congrats to Coach Johnson and the Vikings!

is Ozzy Guillen's kid still playing for NPU? 
Interesting to hear the Bosco pulled double duty.  I did not know that
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: benchwarmer21 on April 10, 2007, 12:34:52 pm
No Oney no longer plays for NPU, he no longer attends the school. Did anyone notice the regional rankings, i think it's ridiculous that no CCIW teams are in it.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 10, 2007, 02:02:25 pm
No Oney no longer plays for NPU, he no longer attends the school. Did anyone notice the regional rankings, i think it's ridiculous that no CCIW teams are in it.

Per the April 10th Poll on the ABCA site...
Central
1. Washington (22-5)
2. Wartburg (15-6)
3. Carthage (10-6)
4. Augustana (17-5)
5. Illinois Wesleyan (10-7)
6. Luther (11-5)
7. Buena Vista (9-4)
8. Edgewood (11-7)

Are you talking about the NCAA regional poll??  If so, where is that information posted?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 10, 2007, 02:15:44 pm
Interesting to hear the Bosco pulled double duty.  I did not know that

Not only did Bosko pull double duty, he was also very successful as a baseball coach:

Bosko Djurikovic:  1978-1994
overall record: 331-295-4    .529
CCIW record:  164-103-1    .614    4 CCIW titles
 
from the North Park Baseball Team website: http://www.northpark.edu/baseball/2007/ (http://www.northpark.edu/baseball/2007/)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 10, 2007, 05:30:44 pm
Scores????  It seems during the week that conference games never update until late into the night.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: perfectgame on April 10, 2007, 07:14:01 pm
final from Bloomington:

               IWU vs. NCC
game 1: 3-0
game 2: 5-1

Titans improve to 8-0 in CCIW play while NCC drops to 1-7
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 11, 2007, 12:50:54 am
Wabash beat NPU, 10-7, at the U.S. Steelyard in Gary on Tuesday afternoon.

Congratulations to NPU freshman second baseman Jordan Higgins upon being named CCIW Co-Hitter of the Week! Higgins went 8-15 in NPU's four-out-of-five week against Wheaton and Augustana.

Good to see a North Park freshman make an early splash in CCIW play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 11, 2007, 08:55:04 am
I can see another year of experience is needed for NPU to move above .500 and stay there.
At 11 and 11, trying to control my enthusiasm is very hard.

Good luck this weekend vs. top CCIW team Illinois Wesleyan (8 and 0)..
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: benchwarmer21 on April 11, 2007, 10:03:46 am
No Oney no longer plays for NPU, he no longer attends the school. Did anyone notice the regional rankings, i think it's ridiculous that no CCIW teams are in it.

Per the April 10th Poll on the ABCA site...
Central
1. Washington (22-5)
2. Wartburg (15-6)
3. Carthage (10-6)
4. Augustana (17-5)
5. Illinois Wesleyan (10-7)
6. Luther (11-5)
7. Buena Vista (9-4)
8. Edgewood (11-7)

Are you talking about the NCAA regional poll??  If so, where is that information posted?

My mistake i looked at the wrong poll.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 11, 2007, 10:57:29 am
Carthage swept a double header from Elmhurst yesterday. Augie stated in the paper that pitching has obviously been the story of the year, and IF they could muster up any sort of offense there's not too many teams that can beat them.  Its been snowing all morning in Kenosha and Racine, how's it looking in Chicago?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CCIWin07 on April 11, 2007, 11:20:21 am
Well  first it was cold and wind, now it is Snow, Rain, and Wind! What is next??

I looked out my window today and saw snow flurries with wind. I checked the radar and saw a huge band moving through central Illinois last night and through Chicago as well. 

Any news on the games? I'm guessing it would be Rain for Decatur, Naperville, Elmhurst, and NPU.... Snow in Kenosha??

Keep us updated!! 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CCIWin07 on April 11, 2007, 11:32:13 am
NCC @ Augustana has just been postponed.

I have a feeling that there are more to come.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 11, 2007, 11:51:58 am
NPU @ Wheaton cancelled game today April 11th; rescheduled same time for Thursday April 12th.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 11, 2007, 01:47:00 pm
Carthage/Elmhurst has been postponed, no make-up date set yet
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 11, 2007, 01:48:56 pm
Where I coach, we were planning on taking our players to Miller Park today to get away from being inside practicing every day. Ten bucks a head to watch the indians vs. angels, the snow has cancelled those plans though. Its been coming down all day and isn't supposed to stop any time soon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Gregory Sager on April 12, 2007, 12:51:47 am
Well  first it was cold and wind, now it is Snow, Rain, and Wind! What is next??

I looked out my window today and saw snow flurries with wind. I checked the radar and saw a huge band moving through central Illinois last night and through Chicago as well. 

Any news on the games? I'm guessing it would be Rain for Decatur, Naperville, Elmhurst, and NPU

Nope. Snow in the city, including at NPU. It stuck, too, rather than melted.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 12, 2007, 10:23:57 am
Looking out the window I see snow on the ground, Fog in the air and a lawsuit being prepared against "Al Gore and his hokey Global Warming hype"
Hopefully, but according to weather predictors, we will see more of this slop for the weekend and nothing will be played until next week in the Chicagoland area.

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 12, 2007, 11:38:53 am
The North Park-Wheaton game rescheduled for today (Thursday 4/12) has again been cancelled.  The new date is next Thursday.  Let's hope it starts to look like spring again soon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CCIWin07 on April 12, 2007, 01:38:48 pm
IWU @ Millikin cancelled yet again.

Game will be made up on Monday at 5pm.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: nccsports891 on April 12, 2007, 03:28:23 pm
If anyone is interested or unaware, all NCC baseball and softball home games can be heard on FM 89.1 in the Naperville area or on www.wonc.org
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedMan1 on April 12, 2007, 11:35:25 pm
Any Carthage fans heading out to Augie this weekend? We are bringing a car full... Also, what are the good spots to eat there??
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: rockstar52 on April 12, 2007, 11:49:29 pm
I was looking ahead to the NPU vs. IWU series this weekend and noticed that IWU has a pitcher named Matt Aronson who has a 0.00 ERA in 34 innings.  The roster says he's a 6'5 230lb lefty.  How hard does he throw and how did a lefty with his size not get drafted or at least go D1?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Spence on April 13, 2007, 01:36:40 am
Last year Aronson had an ERA of 5.02.

Aronson started the season off against some pretty weak opponents or in short stints, but has shut down teams in the conference as well.

Will be interested to see if he can keep it up against the better teams in the CCIW.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 13, 2007, 07:58:13 am
Weekend approaching, weather more springlike.

Here is the Schedule:

Saturday, April 14th
Elmhurst @ North Central (2), 1 p.m.       Split - Elmhurst (1) NCC (1)
Ill. Wesleyan @ North Park (2), 3 p.m.     Ill. Wes  (2)
Wheaton @ Millikin (2), Noon                   Split  - Wheaton (1) Millikin (1)
Carthage @ Augustana (2), 1 p.m.          Carthage (2)

Sunday, April 15 
North Central @ Elmhurst, 1 p.m.             Elmhurst
Ill. Wesleyan @ North Park, Noon            North Park
Carthage @ Augustana, Noon                  Carthage

Maybe my predictions will be as accurate as this "Global Warming Hype"
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: perfectgame on April 13, 2007, 09:30:02 am
Aronson dominated a solid Mississippi College down during their spring trip and has been cruising through conference. He has been almost unhittable with good location and a good change up.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: REDMENFAN on April 13, 2007, 10:18:18 am
Redman1, I don't know about the spots to eat out there, but Augustana's facility is really great. I believe it was built just 2-3 years ago. It is not on campus, but it is a beautiful field with a great playing surface. Have a few down there for all us redmen fans who can't make it!!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 13, 2007, 11:28:33 am
Aronson dominated a solid Mississippi College down during their spring trip and has been cruising through conference. He has been almost unhittable with good location and a good change up.

Miss College was 10 and 13 when IWU played and they are now 12 and 21, I don't think that is solid in a positive way.  Their era = 6.77
I still believe in my previous prediction IWU over NPU 2 to 1

Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 13, 2007, 11:30:37 pm
No doubt IWU will be 11-0 in CCIW play after the weekend. They are a team that gets on base and gets timely hits. We will have to see if the pitching will continue to be strong, but before the season started that was where the question marks were.

From your lips (fingers?) to God's ears! 

But, wow!  I thought I had the greenest-tinted glasses on the boards, and even I only hope to be 11-0!
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: rockstar52 on April 13, 2007, 11:45:01 pm
No doubt IWU will be 11-0 in CCIW play after the weekend. They are a team that gets on base and gets timely hits. We will have to see if the pitching will continue to be strong, but before the season started that was where the question marks were.

IWU isn't a team that gets on base.  As of April 10th their OBP is .353 in conference play.  That's 7th in the league.  Wheaton has a .310 OBP and is the only team in the league with a lower number in that category.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: perfectgame on April 14, 2007, 12:53:19 am
point well taken yank52. However, they recently put up a fight against #4 emory losing late 6-7 and also took down #11 millsaps (earlier ranking) early in the season. How does a decent Miss. College sound? A little better I hope. Also, does anyone actually know what happen to Kuntz for Augustana? Was it an arm injury or personal reasons?
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: RedMan1 on April 14, 2007, 01:44:23 am
REDMENFAN, thanks for the info.. We will have a few for you for sure... Big trip for the Redmen this weekend. Hopefully we will come back with 3 victories!!! Good Luck to all
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: CCIWin07 on April 14, 2007, 02:35:30 am
Looking forward to see Augi and Carthage this weekend! Should be a great series!

Just checked the CCIW site and saw Milikin took 2 tonight from Wheaton.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: benchwarmer21 on April 14, 2007, 11:42:03 am
point well taken yank52. However, they recently put up a fight against #4 emory losing late 6-7 and also took down #11 millsaps (earlier ranking) early in the season. How does a decent Miss. College sound? A little better I hope. Also, does anyone actually know what happen to Kuntz for Augustana? Was it an arm injury or personal reasons?

Kuntz was dismissed from the team due to personal actions.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on April 14, 2007, 12:13:01 pm
No doubt IWU will be 11-0 in CCIW play after the weekend. They are a team that gets on base and gets timely hits. We will have to see if the pitching will continue to be strong, but before the season started that was where the question marks were.

I sure hope your play this weekend can back up those strong words. 
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: benchwarmer21 on April 14, 2007, 03:19:16 pm
No doubt IWU will be 11-0 in CCIW play after the weekend. They are a team that gets on base and gets timely hits. We will have to see if the pitching will continue to be strong, but before the season started that was where the question marks were.

Do not be so sure of that. It's true IWU is 8-0 in confrence but they are 8-0 playing againest 3 teams that have a combined record of 6-21 in confrence play two of which only have one win a piece. NPU has been playing great ball latly and are physically and mentally prepared for the upcoming series. Each game this weekend will be a fight and will come down to who wants it more. U have the battle of the third highest BA(NPU-.316) vs the #1 ERA(IWU-1.24) then also the 3rd ranked ERA(NPU-3.78) vs the 3rd lowest BA in the confrence(IWU-.279). These games will be tight and IWU will not sweep the Vikes.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: knarocky22 on April 14, 2007, 06:14:00 pm
Augie defeated Carthage today 6-2.  Doubleheader set for tomorrow at noon.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: augie28 on April 14, 2007, 07:28:54 pm
Great game to watch today at Augustana. 

Jacob Husing was cruising early on while Eric Knott gave up 2 runs on 7 hits through the first four innings.  After that, Knott settled down and did not allow another hit through the 8th keeping his team close.  Augie finally strung some hits together and put up 3 runs in the 6th and the final 2 in the 8th. 

The Augie offense really looked strong today.  They put good swings on a strong pitcher all game long.  They also came up with the big hit which seemed to have been avoiding them through the last few games. 

If tomorrow's action is anything like today's game, it should make for two good games.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: perfectgame on April 15, 2007, 12:04:24 am
Final from Chicago:

Iwu vs NPU

2-1
5-1

Two more strong pitching performances today from IWU pitching dropping their conference era (1 earned). NPU played well and got a strong pitching performance from Di Cristina (7 ip 1 er) but couldnt come up with the victory. Should be a good game tomorrow
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 15, 2007, 01:07:53 am
Since I'm a newbie to CCIW baseball, I did some catching up on history this evening.  If there exist season-by-season records (or all-time totals) other than championships, I couldn't find them (I only checked the conference site, not school-by-school).  All-time titles:

IWU  20 (including 3 of last 8; last title, 2005)
Carthage  13 (including 5 of last 8; last title, 2006)
N. Central  9 (last title, 1998)
Millikin  8 (last title, 1975)
Elmhurst  7 (last title, 1997)
Augustana  4 (last title, 1974)
N. Park  4 (all from 1983-1990; all coached by Bosko Djurickovic)
Wheaton  1 (1951)
[the only title by a school no longer in the conference was Lake Forest in 1953]

I couldn't find total coaching records, but in terms of 'rings', no one approaches Jack Horenberger, whose 15 titles are more than all of the coaches at any other school.  (Rapidly approaching is the 'tag-team' of Augie Schmidt III (5) and Augie Schmidt IV (8 ), who together have all of Carthage's titles.  How did Augustana let these Augies get away?!)

Although the season is not even half over yet, with IWU's sweep of NPU Saturday, it is looking like the conference champ is likely to be either IWU or Carthage for the 9th consecutive year.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 15, 2007, 07:46:53 am
Since I'm a newbie to CCIW baseball, I did some catching up on history this evening.  If there exist season-by-season records (or all-time totals) other than championships, I couldn't find them (I only checked the conference site, not school-by-school). 
The North Park Baseball Team Website (separate from the Athletic department's version) has an extensive historical section, including coaching records.  the URL is http://www.northpark.edu/baseball/2007/ (http://www.northpark.edu/baseball/2007/)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 15, 2007, 03:28:34 pm
mr_b,

Thanks for the tip, though alas (as feared) it is only for North Park.  For conference stuff I guess I'm doomed to search school-by-school, though the site did have team-by-team records since 1959.  NPU seems definitely on the rise today, but otherwise seems to have shone only during Bosko's tenure; they have an overall losing record against all conference opponents except (slightly) over Millikin and (overwhelmingly) over Wheaton (which probably makes up for a lot!)

Since I'm far more familiar with football and basketball (where Wheaton was so overwhelmingly dominant in the 50s that they were evicted from the conference for awhile) and soccer (where the Crusaders/Thunder were almost totally unchallenged until the rise of NPU recently), it seems odd to see them as perennial doormats.  Any explanations for why Wheaton and baseball don't seem to fit in the same sentence?

[BTW, Ann Arbor has a fabulous boogie-woogie pianist with the stage name of Mr. B - familiar with him?]
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 15, 2007, 06:21:33 pm
Alas, it looks like NPU woes will continue for another season, I think it time for "Wait until next season" chorus.
NPU dropped 3 straight to IWU, Sunday's final 6 to 0, the weather was grand, the pitching was on but the bats and defense betrayed the Vikings today.

Hope springs eternal every spring, but the spring looks dryer with each passing conference series.

Good luck Vikings this week , make up with Wheaton and a 3 game series with NCC
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: bball7811 on April 15, 2007, 08:09:18 pm
My choice of words should have been more carefully written so as not to sound arrogant, for that I apologize however, IWU's pitchers continued to pepper the corners and get people out. I never said IWU was a hitting machine but that they got TIMELY HITS once again this weekend. NPU played some great baseball this weekend as well.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: perfectgame on April 15, 2007, 08:35:20 pm
yes, next time think a LITTLE before you type bball. regardless, good job out there and it should be an interesting final few weeks in cciw play.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 15, 2007, 08:57:11 pm
bball,

As a Titan, I for one forgive you - they ARE 11-0! ;D

But arrogance (real or perceived) will raise hackles on the boards.  I took a lot of static on CCIW Chat in 2005-06 for even raising the serious possibility that IWU might run the table (they had two first-team all-Americans in Dauksas and Amelianovich, and a future first-team AA in Freeman).  I never even predicted they would, but my 'odds' of it rose gradually from 10% to 40% as they swept what was arguably the toughest non-conference schedule in the country (and were unanimously #1 in the d3hoops poll); I still received plenty of ridicule (and DID eat plenty of crow since they not only didn't go undefeated, Augie won the conference).

Anyone got the Augie-Carthage results?  I'm ambivalent whether to hope that the Red Men all-but-eliminated the Vikes, or that the Titans are now 3 (or 4) games up on everyone!  (Not arrogance, just hopeful thinking!)
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 15, 2007, 09:30:01 pm
Carthage took two from Augustana this Sunday, 10-8 and 11-4.  The standings as of today are:

Illinois Wesleyan11-0
Carthage 8-2
North Park6-5
Augustana5-6
Elmhurst5-6
Millikin 4-6
North Central2-9
Wheaton 1-8
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 15, 2007, 09:38:14 pm
Anyone got the Augie-Carthage results?  I'm ambivalent whether to hope that the Red Men all-but-eliminated the Vikes, or that the Titans are now 3 (or 4) games up on everyone!  (Not arrogance, just hopeful thinking!)
It's too soon to be thinking about which teams might be eliminated with half the CCIW schedule (10-11 games) yet to be played.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 15, 2007, 10:13:59 pm
Obviously, not even North Central or Wheaton have been eliminated, but it is equally obvious that, barring some immediate sweeps, it is (realistically) now a two-team race.  For anyone else to pass both Carthage and IWU would require twin collapses of historic proportions.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mr_b on April 16, 2007, 07:48:25 am
I guess I was thinking about the tournament qualifiers as opposed to the regular-season CCIW leader.  Getting into the tournament is the key.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: yank52 on April 16, 2007, 09:52:19 am
Obviously, not even North Central or Wheaton have been eliminated, but it is equally obvious that, barring some immediate sweeps, it is (realistically) now a two-team race.  For anyone else to pass both Carthage and IWU would require twin collapses of historic proportions.

Wheaton is not in the running anymore, they are having a disappointing season in the CCIW.  They were pre-season picks for 4th in the conference.  North Central has a tough road to hoe, they have a 2 and 9 record with 10 games left in the conference, 1 with Augie's, 3 with NPU, 3 with Millikin and 3 with Wheaton. They would need to run the table to get in.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 16, 2007, 10:33:11 am
Yeah, confusion over the topic.  I was just thinking in terms of regular-season champ - certainly the tourney bids (and, therefore, AQ) are still wide open.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: mwunder on April 16, 2007, 10:55:39 am
Yeah, confusion over the topic.  I was just thinking in terms of regular-season champ - certainly the tourney bids (and, therefore, AQ) are still wide open.

This weekend brings the biggest series to date in the CCIW.  Carthage travles to Bloomington for a three game set with the 11-0 Titans.  In my mind, Carthage has to take at least 2 of the 3 to remain within striking distance of IWU.  Carthage has a remaining series with Millikin @ Carthage and another with North Park (home and home) and a single game with Elmhurst @ Elmhurst, while IWU plays Augie (home and home) and Elmhurst (home and home).  All 6 of these teams have a shot at making the CCIW tourney, so there's a lot to play for.
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: Scream on April 16, 2007, 11:23:12 am
Alas, it looks like NPU woes will continue for another season, I think it time for "Wait until next season" chorus.


(BANDWAGON FAN defined)

Alas, it looks like NPU woes will continue for another season, I think it time for "Wait until next season" chorus.
NPU dropped 3 straight to IWU, Sunday's final 6 to 0, the weather was grand, the pitching was on but the bats and defense betrayed the Vikings today.

Hope springs eternal every spring, but the spring looks dryer with each passing conference series.

Good luck Vikings this week , make up with Wheaton and a 3 game series with NCC


Are you f'n kidding me?  You want to "wait til next year" after one bad weekend?!?!?  First of all, they're still in 3rd place.  Why is that reason to quit?  Secondly, it isn't as though all elements were off in this past series.  I'll give you that the offense sputtered but the pitching certainly appeared to be at least adequate.  If you want to go off the deep end after a series like this past one, I'd hate to see what you would do if North Park's bats and pitching were off.  Good lord, we'd probably see you jumping off Carlson Tower. 

Truthfully, if you're the kind of fan that says, "Ah hell, let's just throw in the towel" after one subpar game or series, please leave.  If your allegiance and loyalty can waiver that much, Park will be better off without you.   >:(
Title: Re: CCIW
Post by: BigPoppa on April 16, 2007, 11:28:05 am
CCIW Standings as of 4/15:

Ill. Wesleyan   11-0   17-7
Carthage         8-2     15-8
North Park       6-5     11-14
Augustana       5-6     19-7
Elmhurst          5-6     8-13
Millikin              4-6     9-16
North Central   2-9     8-16
Wheaton          1-8     6-13-1

Carthage @ IWU this weekend will be a huge series with the winner most likely getting the #1 seed in the CCIW tourney. If Carthage can hang close to IWU they can make a run in the last weekend as Augustana and IWU have yet to play.

I am also impressed that North Park is hanging around again. More proof that Luke Johnson's coaching last year was no fluke. Wheaton has been a big disappointment so far as they were picked 4th by the coaches and I guess Augustana has to be considered a disappointment as well.

(I have been out of town for a week and not able to po