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Title: FB: Midwest Conference
Post by: admin on August 16, 2005, 05:19:57 am
This is the new home of MWC discussion. Welcome aboard, everyone.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncfb74 on August 16, 2005, 11:36:45 am
i have to say that this new setup is different.  And we all know how housch hates change.  They moved the caf to a diffent location at school and he didnt eat for days.

Camp has begun and the school are gettign ready for the season.  Any predictions for the first upset?  I think it is going to be Lawrence over any team they beat. - 1987  -

PEACE

Look at all this crazy stuff you can do
   
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on August 16, 2005, 12:34:18 pm
74 is fat
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 16, 2005, 01:11:57 pm
I lost my status!!!  What the hell?  It took me years to make fun of O'Malley, to tear into Ripon, to remind everyone that I am and  always will be better than them to build up to all-conference.
And now there is all this crap on here that I have no idea how to use.  Damn it
Pat, what the hell
is going on?  This reminds me of that time they moved the caf... >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 16, 2005, 02:07:54 pm
Quote from: xsnd47 link=topic=3562.msg355667#msg355667 date=1124212317What[glow=red,2,300
the hell[/glow]?

Did you read the story on either site's front page about what to do in those situations?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on August 16, 2005, 02:31:33 pm
House is brainless and worthless!!!
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 16, 2005, 02:33:17 pm
Pat, I am an IT consultant.  I don't read words good. :'(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Go Hawks on August 16, 2005, 03:30:42 pm
I am not sure I like it that much either.  When I was at Ripon, I was introduced to email and used on campus comptuers.  By the time I was a senior, everyone had their own computer except me.

Oh well, I figure I will post enough to get my ratings back.  It is just a matter of time before the 10 guys from SNC tell me to eat dirt and hang out with their fat girlfriends.
Title: Beloit Head Coach Announces Retirement
Post by: xsnd47 on August 16, 2005, 06:03:27 pm
Next season might be the most compeptitive Beloit has been in decades.  As a man, DeGeorge sounded like a nice honest guy, but as a coach... well he's been running the wing-t for almost as long as I've been alive.  I think this is about three years too late to really help Beloit, but who knows.

???   >:(

Do you think the mad face will ever catch the confused face?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 17, 2005, 10:56:22 am
Has anyone else seen this?

http://www.bridgewaterfootball.com/rankings.html

Not bad representation for a league of such poor athletes.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on August 17, 2005, 12:24:18 pm
lots of bells and whistles...I see a few of the SNC guys around...it may take a while for the 1 ripon poster to teach the rest of the redducks how to work this thing so we may be flying solo for a while....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncfb74 on August 17, 2005, 04:46:35 pm
How many alums are going up to the first game of the year?  I know myself and Riegle will be there with bells on to watch # 48  knock some WIAC heads around.

Ticker you married yet?

PEACE
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on August 17, 2005, 05:01:09 pm
Might make it over for the 1st game...not sure yet.

Not married yet, getting closer tho....

do you still enjoy cantaloupes? or was is just melons in general?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 17, 2005, 05:49:03 pm
Steph and I might make it up there.  I'll see if I can drag the Korean and his brother the Mc up there too.  Laufensnausage might make the trip too.  I would hope there would be a good turn out, but I am guessing there will be a typical lack of student body which leaves us with a fan base of families and alumni.  Someone have Llanas comb the campus to pick up some freshman chicks.  I'm sure they'd sit through a football game to hang out with a former member of Menudo.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on August 18, 2005, 12:39:28 am
Has anyone else seen this?

http://www.bridgewaterfootball.com/rankings.html

Not bad representation for a league of such poor athletes.

xsnd47 - Good find on that link there.  Nice to see the MWC represented by 3 different schools on those top 10 lists...especially since it is such a poor conference, like you said.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 18, 2005, 01:51:12 am
Yeah, but it's a ranking for a fantasy football league, where a good player in a weak conference looks better because he piles up numbers. That's not an endorsement of the league by any stretch.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncla42 on August 18, 2005, 11:46:16 am
The Allison crew will be up for the the game.  Got take the kid to his first college football game.  Looking forward to the tailgating and watching #48 as well.  I taught him everything. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on August 18, 2005, 12:25:09 pm
I wouldn't miss watching those sandbags (U-Dumb-Dumb) get tipped in a lifetime. Anyone up for some Friday night festivities.
OTAF, I hear the Chinese contigent is large on campus this semester. You can tell them you love them long time.
42, is that puppy coming too?
Title: D3 Preview
Post by: rome on August 18, 2005, 12:51:59 pm
Pat

I have recieved notice that my payment was accepted by pay pal last week and I have not recieved a password or preview-please advise
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 18, 2005, 12:54:11 pm
They haven't gone out yet.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 18, 2005, 01:06:43 pm
A woman at work said I looked like I was losing weight.  Of course, I took that as a sign of concern for my health, so I will need to dive into an Abbey Burger and a few beers when/if we come up there Friday night, you know.... for my health.  Nobody likes a skinny fat guy.  Has anyone seen Povo?  I use to hear of random sightings throughout the greater Milwaukee area, but I haven't heard anything in a while.

     :o          >:(
O'Malley     HOUSH

Look at O'Malley run away from me, pretty typical...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncfb74 on August 18, 2005, 01:29:21 pm
The only running I remember is when I ran over you....  do you remember?  I do!

Does anyody else remember?

I will be there with my girlfriend Reigle on Friday night.  I am definatly up for some Friday Fung.

                 :'(
Housch crying about everything


PEACE
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on August 18, 2005, 01:56:22 pm
http://Breaking News: Women notice House.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 18, 2005, 01:59:31 pm
Pat, can you charge my subscription to your thing you're making us pay for to All-American O'Malley?  He still owes me for when he begged me to let him block me in one on one drills to impress some foreign exchange student.  I think her name was Reigle.  She was pretty cute, so I hope she was worth it Otaf.  Here is a picture  :-*

Do you guys think the guy who makes smiley faces is Povo?  I remember Povo resembling a lot of these faces, primarily crazy guy and I forgot to take my medication guy, but at one point or another he was all these guys, sometimes all at once...

That's not a real website Meach.
Title: Fighting Scots
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on August 18, 2005, 02:27:50 pm
so Maverick, how do we look?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on August 18, 2005, 02:46:01 pm
Did you ever see him trying to hatch a football?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on August 19, 2005, 12:05:57 pm
classic stuff right there...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 19, 2005, 12:49:20 pm
nothing beats cookies in the girdle pockets.  the hatching of the football was funny, but i would have to admit i was a little concerned at that point.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on August 19, 2005, 03:03:54 pm
house, how did you get your posts back? I sent them an email, but I got nothin so far...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 19, 2005, 03:23:09 pm
i'm not sure how i got them back.  i stressed my concerns for how hard i worked on the board, and pat gave them back.  i think you have to be lame cool enough to complain about your status on a message board, which i am.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Go Hawks on August 19, 2005, 03:33:34 pm
Press release for the season, it is long so you SNC guys might want to read it in pieces:

RIPON, WIS. -- St. Norbert (9-2, 9-0 MWC) was picked to finish first in the 2005 Midwest Conference Football Preseason Coaches Poll.  The poll was voted on by head coaches at participating member institutions. The Green Knights, who received eight of the nine possible first-place votes, have won 18 consecutive MWC games and 43 of their last 45 conference contests. Monmouth College (9-1, 8-1) grabbed the two remaining first place votes to finish  in second. Lake Forest (8-2, 7-2) was tabbed to finish third, while Carroll (3-7, 3-6) was picked fourth. Illinois College (6-4, 5-4) and Ripon (5-5, 4-5) tied in the #5 slot. The final four spots were rounded out by Grinnell (6-4, 5-4), Beloit (3-7, 2-7), Knox (1-9, 1-8) and Lawrence (2-8, 1-8).

 

Jim Purtill’s group has held at least a share of the past six MWC titles and has appeared in the postseason a league-best six times. Purtill welcomes back All-American candidate Casey Meehan (1,707 all-purpose yd, 25 ap td) at running back, while first team All-MWC wide receiver T.J. George (52 rec, 856 yd) also returns. The defense losses five All-MWC players to graduation, but Tony Mendina (69 tckl, 3 int) and Anthony Triner (2 int) are back to anchor the defensive backfield.

 

2004 MWC Coach of the Year Steve Bell and the Monmouth College Fighting Scot were the only 9-1 team in the nation who did not qualify for the playoffs last season. The Scots have reason to believe their luck will change this season, as the quarterback-wideout tandem of Mitch Tanney (1,952 yd, 24 td) and Evan Haffner (36 rec, 911 yd, 11 td) lead a potent offense. Ryan Bast (10 career int) has shutdown potential at corner, but the three others starters are gone from one of the nation’s top pass defenses a year ago.

 

Brent Becker takes over as head coach at Lake Forest after serving as defensive coordinator for the Foresters the past two seasons. Becker’s defensive units, which have produced the past two MWC Defensive Players of the Year, have ranked among the best in the country. Linebacker Louis Bertuca leads the defense this season after registering 63 tackles and 4.5 sacks in 2004. The offense should be solid as well, as the Foresters return all-conference quarterback Matt Mahaney (2,436 yd, 13 td).

 

Carroll could be the darkhorse in this season’s MWC race. Jeff Voris’ team’s 3-7 record from a year ago is deceiving, as the Pioneers lost by one point to MWC champion St. Norbert and also fell to Lake Forest and Grinnell by a combined seven points. Wide receiver Adam Fletcher (75 rec, 975 yd, 13 td) and linebacker Chris Albanese (83 tckl, 3 sck) will lead their respective sides of the ball.

 

Illinois College and head coach Aaron Keen fell four points shy of a seven-win season last year and return with much of their team still intact. Pete Jennings is back after throwing for 2,200 yards and 20 touchdowns last season. He will be joined in the backfield by 1,000 yard rusher Jarid Crain (1,230 yd, 11 td).

 

 

After winning 11 games over the past two seasons, Ron Ernst looks to return the Red Hawks to the form they showed in 2001, when the team finished 8-2 and won a share of the MWC crown. Ryan Morgan, Tim Peters and Zach Davidson were All-MWC selections in 2005 and return to lead the defense. Bob Faulds threw for 1,431 yards and 14 touchdowns in his sophomore season.

 

Grinnell head coach Greg Wallace will depend heavily on standout quarterback Sean Pfalzer this season. Pfalzer ranked 18th in the nation in total offense a season ago, averaging 269.9 yards per game. He also tossed 17 touchdowns and ran for two scores as well. The Pioneers will need to improve on a rush defense that ranked second to last in the conference in 2004.

 

Ed DeGeorge enters his 29th and final season at Beloit. Four-year starter Nate Skelton, who has thrown for over 3,700 yards in his career, returns to lead Beloit’s wing-t offense. The Buc’s offense finished 22nd in the nation in rushing offense (241.5 ypg) last season and leading rusher Lee Rankinen (1,196 yd) is also back. The Buc’s defense will depend on linebacker Adam Neiffer (122 tackles).

 

Andy Gibbons’ young Knox squad lost by 13 points or less four times last season. The team showed improvement late in the season, defeating Illinois College 13-10 for its lone win of the season. The Prairie Fire have reason for optimism, as they return 18 starters and 44 letterwinners this year. Running back Kevin Megli is the Prairie Fires top scoring threat (903 yd, 5 td).

 

New Lawrence head coach Chris Howard welcomes back three All-MWC performers in his first season guiding the Vikings. Nick Korn is the offense’s best weapon after catching 31 balls for 433 yards and six scores last year. Howard will look to improve his squad on the lines, after Lawrence finished last in the conference in rushing and defending the run in 200


Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 19, 2005, 03:49:45 pm
I only had to read the top.  That is where they usually put all the information about the winning team.  You all have fun fighting over second again.


(  |  )       :-*'Malley
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 19, 2005, 03:55:15 pm
I'm putting them back as people ask about them and as I have time. It's not like there are five or 10 people affected -- there are about a hundred. Please be patient.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 19, 2005, 04:06:09 pm
Pat, I would like to smite O'Malley some more, but that option is no longer given.  Can you please put the smite button back.

Thank you,

Housh

;D      >:('Malley

It's funny because your name is O'Malley, like Obermueller, but with an apostrophe and a Malley at the end.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on August 19, 2005, 04:53:41 pm
can't help but chuckle at every one of your posts 47...I'm also a big fan of greg's little picture.

has camp started yet? anyone heard anything useful?

Pat, I'm aware that you are flooded with requests...just thought I'd whine a little bit to see if I could get it fixed quicker like a certain pc challenged IT consultant I know...I'm just posting to get my numbers up now.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 19, 2005, 06:28:04 pm
If you've smited/applauded the person recently you can't do so again until a certain amount of time has passed.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncfb74 on August 19, 2005, 07:52:53 pm
For those of you not familar with our favrite fat freind jason housch I have decided to submit a picture of him for all you to see.  Thanks to pat with this new posting forum you can all see what our beautiful little chubby man looks like!  So on behalf of everybody I would like to say thank you pat!

(http://www.gimpcity.com/how/why-fat-guy.jpg)
Dont tell me you dont think he is pretty!
[/size]


Peace


 ;D'Malley
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 20, 2005, 11:18:42 am
I loved that dress...
Title: Re: Fighting Scots
Post by: Maverick on August 21, 2005, 10:43:38 pm
so Maverick, how do we look?

Old Fighting Scot,
Watched some of the scrimmage this afternoon and the things that I saw during the sessions looked pretty good.  You enjoying being back out on the west coast again these days?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on August 22, 2005, 09:05:44 am
The couch potato says the SND is looking good.  How good remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on August 22, 2005, 12:24:45 pm
that must be a recent pic b/c he was much bigger than that last time I saw him....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 23, 2005, 12:16:01 am
i've been putting on my winter layer.  i like to start that in august.

IYOT!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on August 23, 2005, 03:54:22 pm
House, I'm willing to bet you have a permanent mangina.
On a side note, everyone's favorite bed wetter, Matt Cullen, is reportedly giving up his pro wrestling career after getting squashed by a certain Meach in an Appleton apartment complex.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on August 24, 2005, 06:02:29 pm
[tr]Glad to hear the scotties look ok.  i am looking forward to trying to make a vip trip to a game either at Lake Forest or during homecoming.  Ill need to find my M Club card so that i can get in free...[/tr]
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: zpeck on August 27, 2005, 01:18:54 am
I heard that there are two Marsh brothers over at Beloit that are really tearing things up. The middle linebacker is a junior and they are excpecting big things and the younger one looks to be starting on the d-line. It looks like these kids are really going to tear the conference up.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LUtickles on August 27, 2005, 03:27:08 pm
The next bout will not be pretty.  I forgot that my opponent was a good 30-40 lbs heavier than he was in our previous bout and I was a few pounds lighter. Sounds like SNC has two quarterbacks to pick from this season.  One is pretty athletic and mobile and the other is a better thrower, more like a Ryan Hartman.  Defensively they will still play a 4-2-5 but with fewer blitzes and more basic coverages. 1987
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on August 29, 2005, 01:57:33 pm
Excuses, excuses, you Tickles imposter.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on August 29, 2005, 02:16:39 pm
Just saw the SNC two-deep.
Looks like Arkens will earn the start Saturday. Nice job buddy. He is being backed by the Polish Prince. Alright.
Among the other notables, if this is up to date, an O'Malley sighting at LB and kicker Bob pulling double duty.
Can't wait for kickoff.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 29, 2005, 02:29:52 pm
Where the hell is Schussler?  Did he eat a live cow or something?  I knew his coming back was too good to be true.  Damn it.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on August 29, 2005, 05:06:21 pm
Don't quote me, but I think he's overseas with the Army.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on August 29, 2005, 07:00:25 pm
was there actually a reference to players from beloit tearing up the conference?  are these guys transfers? is this for real?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncla42 on August 29, 2005, 07:50:28 pm
word on wren and seth.  I talked to wren at the west towne mall in maidson.  He will be sitting out this year to get surgery on his hand.  nothing major.  he would have missed at least one game with it so he just figured he would get it fixed and come back next year 100% for howard and LU.  He also said that seth is working on getting into LU and also playing next year.  This is just what wren told me to the best of my slightly damaged memory.  I am just posting this to hopefully clear up all the rumors.  But i probably just feuled the more.  sorry aljey and seth! :-\
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on August 30, 2005, 12:03:28 am
Well that is crap.  I was hoping to see Schussler in the Green and Gold again.  That is a disappointment.  Those two would make a substantial contribution to any program, but it won't be enough to lift LU over a program like SNC.  I am interested to see what Howard does at LU.  Those of you who played for him speak very highly of him.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on September 01, 2005, 10:46:54 am
Big Pat, I got yelled at for bringing this up last year, but I was a week too early last year.  Are we going to see an around the region for the midwest, prior to Saturday?

See what happens when you leave the job up to a guy from Ripon.  Hey, at least Harrison Ford went there.  The cookies are good too.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2005, 10:57:54 am
We're looking for a new columnist -- John has relocated and is no longer in the area. I will make an offer on the column hopefully tomorrow.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on September 01, 2005, 11:03:11 am
Let Meach write the column.

Meach, write the column, you're a writer.

Done.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on September 01, 2005, 02:07:18 pm
Good luck MWC-

This is an important week in terms of the conference gaining respectability.
Go Beloit-send Ed out a winner.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 03, 2005, 07:43:37 am
GO KNIGHTS!

Be the bee!  Win one for the MWC!  Show those guys over at the
We don't win enough
In conference games to
Attain a pool
C bid conference what you're made of!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 03, 2005, 01:51:26 pm
Good luck today to all the MWC teams!  Especially the Monmouth College Fighting Scots!  Will be back in a few hours with the final score from the MC vs. CUW game...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 03, 2005, 05:54:48 pm
Final from Monmouth:
MC 40 - CUW 26

A good performance by the Fighting Scots for week 1.  Yards were fairly even between the 2 teams but turnovers and mistakes were very costly for CUW--similar to last year's game.  MC actually led the game 40-6 before 3 late TD's by the Falcons made the score look closer than it actually was.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: tps040580 on September 03, 2005, 05:59:26 pm
LFC 21 Malalester 10
UWW 42 SNC 0 -Ehh, sorry.
Knox 21 LU 14 - it wasn't even that close
Ripon 20 Grinnell 18- at one point it was 20-5

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 03, 2005, 06:21:19 pm
Week 1 Final Scores:
Ripon 20 - Grinnell 18
Knox 21 - Lawrence 14
Carleton 35 - Beloit 28
Carthage @ Carroll, 6 pm
Illinois C. 28 - Blackburn 7
Lake Forest 21 - Macalester 10
Monmouth 40 - Concordia (WI) 26
UW-Whitewater 45 - St. Norbert 7
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: wnc52 on September 04, 2005, 10:26:45 am
Other than a very impressive win by Monmouth, these scores don't seem very good for the conference.  Lake Forest in a close game with usually poor Macalester, same with IC and Blackburn, Beloit losing to usually poor (I think) Carleton, and Norbert getting absolutely pasted!   Anyone else care to comment?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on September 04, 2005, 10:49:16 am
Well... Well... Well.... Just like we all knew was going to happen Nubs got abused like a redheaded step child!!!  Now I can talk smack freely for a long time.  You were complainin about no national ranking, see this is what happens when you play a real team, crappy teams like nubs get thrashed!!!  WAY TO GO WARHAWKS!!!  
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: oldpa on September 04, 2005, 01:08:43 pm
C'mon 1 for, WW only won 86 to 16 the last two times they played. The real question is will they ever play again. My guess is not for a long time.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: warhawkalum on September 04, 2005, 03:18:39 pm
Well once again I went to the UW Whitewater St. Norberts game expecting the power of the MWC to give Whitewater a game. As their head coach last year said they was no doubt in his mind that they were the best team in the state to represent d3 football in the playoffs. UWW whooped them alst year allowing to score nine points in the first half.
This year it was 35-00 at halftime,and I went to see if I could get my money back as St. Norberts didn't even show up in the first half. I was told to stop beign a smarrt a** or I would get kicked out fo the place.
Oldpa I truly believe Brezowitz would love to play SNC again. I am not sure if Purtill wants to get beat again like they have the past to times.
I hope he does as Brez told me he would love to play SNC or any other team from the MWC. He did sign a 10 year contract with Carroll College in 1996, but after Carroll got whooped 155-14. Carroll pulled out this started in 1996,and ended in 1997. Which is when Whitewater started traveling all across the country playing teams such as western washington, Hardin Simmons,Mount Union,and St. Johns.
Finally I know I will get ripped for ripping SNC but the score says it all the warhawks came they saw and they whipped the green snots I mean knights all opver the field not once but two eyars in a row.
GO WARHAWKS
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on September 05, 2005, 11:42:36 am
oldpa,
There is not a chance that Purtill would ever schedule us for another season opener.  He is going to schedule some cake team out of the CCIW or another close d3 conference to pad his schedule even more.   All they care about is winning conference.  Which is important, but we all know that if you can't beat the best, (i.e. us with UWLAX), you are never gonna be the best.  Congrats hawks again and beat SXU!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: voice on September 05, 2005, 08:55:13 pm
The St. Norbert vs. Whitewater series ends at just two games. The contract was not renewed.  Whitewater replaces St. Norbert with Elmhurst out of the CCIW. :o
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 06, 2005, 12:04:25 am
The St. Norbert vs. Whitewater series ends at just two games. The contract was not renewed.  Whitewater replaces St. Norbert with Elmhurst out of the CCIW. :o

Wow, talk about scheduling a cake team out of the CCIW for one of next year's non-conference games.  :D

Any of the SNC posters know who the Knights will be playing for their non-conference game next season?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: oldpa on September 06, 2005, 09:41:27 am
Couldn't be any more of a cupcake than St. Norberts has been the last two years.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: 1_For_27 on September 06, 2005, 10:35:34 am
I might have to give elmhurst a little credit they don't play Ripon, or Knox.  The CCIW is a litte more competitive than the MWC.  Whatever I don't really care cause WW won and that is all that matters!!

45-7      45-7    45-7    45-7     45-7

WARHAWKS     WARHAWKS     WARHAWKS
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Go Hawks on September 06, 2005, 11:32:50 am
Ripon used to play Elmhurst and yes, they were a cupcake.  Next year Ripon has UW-O.  I think the conference has to continue to play stronger teams, that is the only way we will ever get two bids to the playoffs.  Monmouth was the only 9-1 team to not make it remember.  SNC will win the conference, and by the end of the season they will get redemption somehow.

As for Ripon/Grinnell.  This game is the reason why we need to get rid of MacCalester.  When you want a preseason tune up and play guys who might be starters and get them some reps, you can't do against a conference team.  I know in the 2nd half Ernst pulled some defensive starters to get other some time, and this may have been the reason for the comback.  The offense looks great and Birschbach is a stud.  Faulds has improved his fakes and many times made great reads for large gains on 3rd down.  The defense is already better than last year.  With Quade back at lb and this transfer, Kellett starting they are pretty solid.  I would bet Ripon finishes no worse than 7-3, they have some room for improvement and are not there yet, but are very young and start maybe 7 Seniors.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 06, 2005, 12:40:38 pm
Great start to the season, Scots!  The outcome looked a little close until I saw the box score.  Must have been a fun game to watch, huh Mav?

Now, I've GOT to try some of these icon gadgets...

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 06, 2005, 12:49:28 pm
It must have been a great day to be a Fighting Scot!!!
Title: SNC future opponent
Post by: Old_Style on September 06, 2005, 01:13:06 pm
I do believe that the Green Knight have a home and home against Wartburg. I think that is what I read in the program but the words all seemed to be blured together on Saturday.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on September 06, 2005, 05:03:37 pm
SNC can take nothing good out of their game this past Saturday. My advice is to forget everything and move on. The next question is "Are they still the overwhelming favorite to win the conference ?" At this point there is no good answer to that question because it says more about the conference than it does about SNC.

Although I was in the general area, I didn't attend the Beloit-Carleton game as I thought it was out of town. It appears Beloits defense thought the game was out of town as well. You've simply gotta win when you gain as much yardage as their offense did.

Similarly Lake Forest has to beat Macalaster by a larger margin to be considered a contender/quality team.

As for the rest of the conference........... I'm primarily a hoops fand and am not knowledgable enough to applaud or complain about anything.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 06, 2005, 08:00:25 pm
SNC is scheduled to play Olivet Nazarene, an NAIA school, in 2006 & 07.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 07, 2005, 12:35:10 am
scottie, Old Fighting Scot - It certainly was a good game to watch for the season opener and turned out as a great day to be a Fighting Scot!   :)

And regardless of who is right (Old_Style or PapaSmurf) about SNC's non-conference opponent for next season, either Wartburg or Olivet Nazarene would both be quality games for the Knights.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on September 07, 2005, 07:24:37 am
Pat

I have yet to recieve my preview. What gives? the password was incorrect and won't let me log-in
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 07, 2005, 11:04:43 pm
According to some inside info that I recently caught wind of, Monmouth will be opening the 2006 season against Wartburg.  So this would mean that PapaSmurf was right with St. Norbert playing Olivet Nazarence for next season's non-conference game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2005, 11:21:21 pm
I have yet to recieve my preview. What gives? the password was incorrect and won't let me log-in

I don't have a registration under your address as posted on your profile. Drop me an e-mail or a private message with some more details and I'll get it straightened out.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 08, 2005, 05:05:40 pm
Maverick:  You say Monmouth has Wartburg on future schedules?  Kudos to Coach Bell for continuing to increase the status of the Scots' opening day opponents, and in turn their SOS.  Maybe Whitewater will be next...    :o

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 08, 2005, 08:32:40 pm
SNC received some sad news this week that defensive coordinator Randy Marsh will be sitting out the rest of the season due to health reasons.  Everyone is hoping for a quick recovery and his return next season.  In the interim the defense will be led by Tim McGuire, the former head coach of Indiana State.  In happier news sophmore lb Dan Dohr and senior dl Ben Baker were commended for their play in last Saturday's game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 08, 2005, 10:00:01 pm
Maverick:  You say Monmouth has Wartburg on future schedules?  Kudos to Coach Bell for continuing to increase the status of the Scots' opening day opponents, and in turn their SOS.  Maybe Whitewater will be next...    :o

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   ;D

Yep, from what I heard out of a very reliable source, MC will be playing Wartburg in a 2-year home and home series starting in 2006 (next season).  It has definitely been a great job by Coach Bell and staff to continue the upgrade in non-conference opponents over the past few seasons.  I also recently found out who the Fighting Scots will be playing for their non-conference game beginning in 2008; I'll save that info for another day but I can honestly say that it's not Whitewater.  ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 09, 2005, 09:15:44 am
Mt. Union?  No, don't tell me.  I can wait. 

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"    ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on September 09, 2005, 10:46:45 am
Pat

Got the preview-thax

Now-can Beloit compete this weekend?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2005, 10:55:35 am
In football? Gonna be tough.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 11, 2005, 11:05:03 am
Pat

When do I get my status back?  It's tough going from a starter back to jv.  I know you're busy and it's good to see that we have a midwest region guy now.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on September 11, 2005, 09:01:01 pm
So hey with all the suprises from this weekends games.  Who is the dominant for the Conference this year.  Is it still up to Norbert or are they still the dominant force that just had a bad game?  Or is it shifting to Monmouth with their dominant playing the past two weeks that seems to disappear when they get in the fourth quater due to what seems to be the 2nd string players.  Or maybe Lake Forest who still has yet to show any real ability yet against two week opponents.  Or could this be Carrolls year?  Who gave Carthage a run for their money? What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Go Hawks on September 12, 2005, 10:42:37 am
It is going to be between SNC and Monmouth.  SNC may be having some tough luck right now, but until somebody else wins the conference outright, they are the team to beat.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 12, 2005, 11:00:58 am
Nubs will always be the team to beat until someone actually does it.  But i have to say I am liking our chances this week.  Has anyone seen SNC play this year, whats the deal?  Inquiring minds want to know...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 12, 2005, 03:01:47 pm
or is beloit really improved and playing inspired ball??
Title: Nubs and Everyone else!
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 12, 2005, 03:05:53 pm
Well its MC vs. Nubs this weekend.  If MC wins is SNC officially having a down year or is MC just as good as they have been playing?  If Nubs wins, where does MC go from here?  Is Carroll for real?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: MPM on September 12, 2005, 05:39:09 pm
The St. Norbert vs. Monmouth contest will be a war! Give a slight edge to the home team. Lake Forest will struggle to put up enough points against the upper echelon teams in the MWC.
Look for an offensive explosion by the Grinnell Pioneers against Macalester this Saturday.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 12, 2005, 07:30:37 pm
     Beloit played a hell of a game last Saturday and if they had decided to kick their extra points instead of going for 2 three times and failing they could have won.  Their defense played tough including turning back SNC on 4th and one at the one.  Turnovers made a big difference in this game with SNC fumbling on the Beloit 12, losing a scoring opportunity, and on their own 19 resulting in a Beloit TD.  SNC needed a blocked punt recovered for a TD and a last second hail mary for a TD at the half to pull this one out.
     SNC is a young team with a good but inexperienced QB.  The defense is under their 3rd coordinator since last season and only had four days to get aquainted with the new coach's system before the Beloit game. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 13, 2005, 11:09:52 am
thanks papa smurf, at least someone on this board is alive. 
where have all the posters gone???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 13, 2005, 11:12:19 am
Say Mr. Coleman, was it an oversight or just more shunning of respect for the talent in the MWC that got us left out of the Around the West article?  The conference title could be on the line this weekend that should at least be something worthy of mentioning...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2005, 01:02:48 pm
Neither. It's the fact that the MWC isn't part of ATR-West. Read the ATR front page for the breakdown.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on September 13, 2005, 02:34:07 pm
seriously, Knights, wtf is going on? Anyone with any information or some sort of a report from DePere?  A VERY ugly L in week 1 and a very shakey W in week 2 over a team picked in the bottom half of the league is not a good way to get up for the team picked to give you the biggest run for the title this year...6 in a row, get things cleaned up and get it done or you will need a miracle to make it 7.  Two losses will not get you in the playoffs either...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 13, 2005, 05:45:21 pm
Sorry Pat, My bad, we should be in the Around the Midwest then?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 13, 2005, 08:13:51 pm
Old Fighting Scot - I just got done reading the ATR-Midwest column and there is a small mention of the MWC in there; Monmouth @ St. Norbert is listed as one of the games to watch for this weekend.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2005, 08:14:46 pm
Yep. Every columnist does it a little differently.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 14, 2005, 11:43:55 am
I read it, it was a fair assessment, hopefully we can remove some of the doubt of what we have done so far this season, and hopefully prove last year was a fluke.  Go Scots, Ill be cheering from Cali!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on September 14, 2005, 01:01:37 pm
So yeah I read the ATR-Midwest and it seems that the columnist has some doubts of Monmouth's offense.  From my personal observation it seems that they are on fire. Norbert has really struggled with both of their games.  Offense not as dominate as it has been in past years and defense isn't either.  Meehan hasn't really shown his Pre-Season All-American abilities yet. Will he this week?

What will be the deciding factor of who wins the game this week between these two teams?
Norbert Fans you have been quite lately, what do you have to say about the glowing question?  Seems like Scots fans are running the board now.  What do you think Monmouth fans about the glowing question?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on September 14, 2005, 02:17:16 pm
turnovers. from the looks of things, snc's offense has been very generous with the ball so far this year...if they clean that up, things should go a lot better the rest of the season...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: tps040580 on September 14, 2005, 04:24:52 pm
This matchup might be a bit overrated. The final score of the Beloit game was deceptive.  SNC was comfortably ahead going into the fourth quarter and just didn't put it away.  I have to believe that the SNC QB will get better as the season goes on, and that MC would have to mistake free to win the game.  SNC might not be as dominant as previous years, and I think losing Howard and some of the staff to LU might be part of the reason for the early season lull, but until they lose I can see it happening.

If somehow Monmouth does win, opportunities open up for LFC, Carroll, and IC to sneak into the picture and try to get at very least a chop of the crown. It would make for a much more interesting October and November to say the least.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 14, 2005, 04:34:14 pm
MC can score, they have shown that.  from the last few games i have seen vs. SNC the problem has been stopping the run.  if MC can stop the run, we could be seeing a change of the guard this weekend.  in their last 5 games, MC has given up on average 250 rushing yards.  If you cant run the ball, you have to throw it, and if you throw it a lot with a young QB, you have more chances to turn it over.  We Shall See.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 14, 2005, 09:23:55 pm
     As far as SNC's defense is concerned they have some areas where they need to do better.  The corners are getting burned for big plays including a fifty yard td in the Beloit game when they were in cover three.  This is a problem they had much of last year but to go along with that they have no sacks which puts even more pressure on the dbacks.  The give away/take away ratio is 8 to 1 so along with the offense cutting down on turnovers the defense needs to start creating some.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on September 15, 2005, 08:57:21 am
Is anyone else excited for Ripon vs. Lawrence this weekend?  It may not be a match considered "playing for the MWC champ" but it still is one of the oldest and best rivalries in Wisconsin.

 ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on September 15, 2005, 09:37:01 pm
Did SNC posters all go on vacation at the same time.  Sure you were beat down by WW but this game against MC will make or break your season.  Anything can happen. 

Lines

Ripon     -13
Carrol    -18.5
SNC       -2.5
BC/LFC  Even
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on September 17, 2005, 12:51:28 am
Hey Punter,
Hows the mid western life treating ya?
All is hot and humid down here in sunny Fla. So I'm hoping the Scoties can get it done against Norberts tomorrow. I know it would make this alumni pretty dang excited. I'm sure Steve, Chad, and Dave will have them fired up. I've been meaning to call Ragone and tell him my special forces down here are averaging a blocked punt a game. Can you tell me how Bushy has been doing. I miss that little fella.
Well lets hear it for those Fighting Scots
I'm starting to feel that good ol Scotitude.
                                                                                                                   The Rooster
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 17, 2005, 12:25:39 pm
Hey Punter,
Hows the mid western life treating ya?
All is hot and humid down here in sunny Fla. So I'm hoping the Scoties can get it done against Norberts tomorrow. I know it would make this alumni pretty dang excited. I'm sure Steve, Chad, and Dave will have them fired up. I've been meaning to call Ragone and tell him my special forces down here are averaging a blocked punt a game. Can you tell me how Bushy has been doing. I miss that little fella.
Well lets hear it for those Fighting Scots
I'm starting to feel that good ol Scotitude.
                                                                                                                   The Rooster

Florida Scot,
Great to see another Fighting Scot back here on the board along with myself and Old Fighting Scot!  The Midwestern life is ok these days.  Still had been fairly hot and humid around here until a few days ago when I think fall finally arrived with some cooler weather.  Good to hear your special forces are bringing it again like they did last fall.  As for Bushy--he's started both games, made a few tackles, and even recovered a fumble last week against Ripon.  Off the field, I've seen him around a few times and he seems good. 

On to today's game...  You know the 3 amigos will have the Scotties fired up and ready to go.  I'm hoping like you that they can play their game and come away with a win.  It would make this alumni (and lots of others) pretty excited as well.  Just a couple hours til kickoff, can't wait to listen to it on the radio.  PMS!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 17, 2005, 04:44:47 pm
I need an update on the SNC vs MC game, im way out in cali and the audio feed isnt working.  Help me out maverick!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 17, 2005, 05:13:35 pm
FINAL SCORE:
Monmouth 28 - St. Norbert 20

Way to go Fighting Scots!  Great job to keep fighting back after being down for alot of the game.  All of us MC alumni are proud of you! :)  PMS!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ballhawk42 on September 17, 2005, 05:25:29 pm
Norbert who????Norbert what???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on September 17, 2005, 05:49:13 pm
Way to go scoties,
It's a great day to be a scot. 
All of the Fighting Scots down here are Damn proud of you guys. Coaches great job and congrates. I've been saving my pennies for a ticket up for the Turkey Bowl. I need a nap.
                                              PMS, The Rooster is crowin


Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 17, 2005, 06:00:44 pm
way to go scotties!!! yes, it definitely is a great day to be a SCOT!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: wnc52 on September 17, 2005, 06:50:37 pm
Hey, I'm an IC guy and I'm still thrilled Monmouth won today.  Considering how quiet this board has been since the Whitewater game, I'm guessing the Norbert guys will be extremely quiet now!

ps.  Any IC updates today?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncla42 on September 17, 2005, 07:56:37 pm
appearently you guys dont know us Norbert's guys so well.  It is nearly imposible to shut us up.  It has probably been quiet on the board from the SNC guys because we were not into this game as much as everyone else.  I know I did really pay to much attention because for the last several years we had been hearing that monmouth may knock us off.  But had not got it done against SNC and it wasn't even close several of those years.  BUT I was wrong.  The SCOTTS got it done.  Congrats to those guys.  Keep fighting knights.   IT has been a tough year with a tons of destractions especially on the Defensive side (not to said that is why they lost, no disrespect to the Scotts)  Keep it up fellas the season is not over.  All this means is that the title will be decided alot later than normal.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: warhawkalum on September 17, 2005, 11:42:54 pm
Finally it happens,
The mighty Green Knights are knocked dowqn in the great Midwest conference.
Congratulations Monmouth, Hopfully this will not detract the Green Knights too much,as they will hopefully win a share of the title again.As thats what they have been doing since Purtil showed up.
I am glad too see that the warhawk destruction of the Green Knights was not a fluke,and we just put a small dent in their armor. Which The scotts took advantage of.
Good luck to everyone in the Midwest conference the rest of the way and hopefuylly the WIAC will see one of your teams in the playoffs at their stadiums.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: irishlover on September 18, 2005, 09:09:11 am
Way to go Brent Becker and the LFC Forresters.............has no one taken notice that a first year coach has guided his team to a 3-0 start and first place in the MWC. I HAVE !!!!! Keep up the good work coaches and put it to Monmouth in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on September 18, 2005, 04:16:41 pm
Monmouth sucks!!!

Just kidding. Nice win guys.
Hard to put a finger on this season for SNC. That's the reason for lack of chatter from my end. It's not so much the U-Dumb-Dumb following, especially my gay friend Aaron Evans, who was caught with his mouth where his buddies money was.

This season is in no way over.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DU HAST on September 18, 2005, 04:40:49 pm
Some things to point out

To all the people hating on Triner:
number of playoff wins for Triner 1 (plus the biggest int in SNC history in the redzone on a jump ball in the 4th quarter against simpson)

Purtill has been at SNC for 6 yrs and 3 games
1st three with monken 27-5 (0-3 in playoffs)
2nd three with Howard 29-4 (1-1 in playoffs)

Since howard left snc 1-2

Going into the 4th week of the season Lawrence (40 something guys) and SNC (100 +)have the same number of losses: 2

To the coaches at SNC who say that playing Lawrence in a night game would give Lawrence to much of an advantage WHO ARE YOU CRAPING. The only advantage that I can see for Lawrence is that they dont have to listen to the drunks on 4th street the night before the game.

As for monomuth and all the other mwc teams, someone beat snc big wup... NO ONE CARES
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on September 18, 2005, 05:15:29 pm
Duhast and your point is what with all the stats of Norbert with their Defensive Cordinators.  I just don't understand what you are trying to say.  Norbert lost fair and square it seems to Monmouth.  Good job Scots,  now lets see what you can do the rest of the season.  You still have a tough season ahead of you.  Lake Forest and Carroll to name a few, but don't overlook the rest of the teams. 

So now my question to everyone is that there seems to be a change in the air, is Monmouth now the team to beat in the Midwest Conference?  If not then who is?

Carroll had an impressive win over IC.  Are they going to be a competitor this year?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on September 18, 2005, 06:42:45 pm
Du Hast, did you play at Lawrence? I can't tell.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: John Arps on September 18, 2005, 09:24:57 pm
DUHAST

That is about the only good play Triner has made in four years.  Yeah it was a great play and it help SNC win a playoff game but one player doesn't win a playoff game.  It was the whole team that contributed and won.  His one good play has been destroyed by many other plays getting burnt for TDs. 

Just cause you've always been a purtill hater doesn't mean he's the reason for SNC's problems this year.  Its hard to play defense when you've had to weeks to learn a completely new defense and the players dont' trust the new defense.  All they do is play cover three and they still get burnt beep, pretty sure that isn't supposed to happen. 

Your stats and point are stupid and irrelevant.  You win as a team and lose as a team.  I'm pretty sure howard had nothing to do with any of the offensive calls in any of the playoffs games, and purtill had nothing to do with the defense while howard and monken were there.    If you want to attribute SNC's playoff win to howard that is fine, but then SNC should have been a national champ every year howard was there if one coach can give that much to a program.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2005, 10:36:30 pm
Three games is too small a sample to compare against three seasons. You could take the last three games of 2001 and make the same point.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Go Hawks on September 19, 2005, 09:34:25 am
I have a hard time believing Monmouth goes undefeated this year.  They still have to play all their boys from the South yet.  It is hard to keep that momentum going after having one of the biggest wins of your program's history.  It has been almost 30 years since you guys won a title, and not saying you can't do it, but before everyone says they are champs, remember they still have 7 games to go.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on September 19, 2005, 09:49:04 am
Great win for the Scotties on Sat.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Fightin Scot Silk on September 19, 2005, 10:10:32 am
GREAT DAY TO BE A SCOTT.

Great win Fellas. Who's next?

Silk WR 20
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 19, 2005, 12:31:48 pm
Congrats to the team and staff at Scot-land.  Let's take care of Beloit next week.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: CBS on September 19, 2005, 03:34:59 pm
Looks like MC has the inside track w/Tiebrekers etc. How good is LFC? @RC this week. Keep an eye on CC....@ LU this week.
BC 10 @MC 35+
CC 30 @ LU 20
IC 28 @ GC 10
KNOX 0 @ SNC 38
LFC @ RC toss up
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 19, 2005, 05:49:18 pm
Scots is spelled with one t!  once again way to go fighting scots.  way to fight back.  Dont be complacent, because there is still work to be done.  SNC should not be the highlight of the year.  Lets go boys!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 19, 2005, 11:24:23 pm
Go Hawks - Yeah there has been alot of chatter here on the board since Saturday regarding MC after the win up at SNC...but I still have yet to see a post where anyone is already proclaiming the Scots as the 2005 MWC champs.  Everyone is well aware of the history facts and that there are 7 remaining games, all of which will be tough.

Ballhawk, Papa, Silk - Nice to see you fellas here on the board with us other MC posters.  Hopefully catch some of you at one of the remaining home games.

Old Fighting Scot - Good job on that "Scots is spelled with one t!" :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 20, 2005, 01:11:03 pm
Nice article about the Monmouth/SNC game on the home page of this site.  Well, nice for the Scots at least. 

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   8)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on September 20, 2005, 04:55:20 pm
time for the knights to right the ship...need a BIG w this weekend...not just a W, but something to restore a little confidence 40 or 50+....

47...you've been quiet lately...good luck this weekend and congrats in advance!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on September 20, 2005, 06:35:59 pm
It looked to me that Carrol dominated IC in all areas of the game..... Carrol is no longer just another win on the schedule.....not that IC is a powerhouse

Ripon beat a terrible team in Larry....Double threat Foulds beat them by himself

Beloit handed an awful game to the Trees...or is the LFC defense just that good....I don't know........and is someone going to try and defend the trees only offensive threat in #2

A big win for the Scot's.....The biggest roadblock to 10-0 has been cleared at least mentally by going to DePue and winning
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on September 20, 2005, 06:57:11 pm

Wow...congrats to Lee Rankinen on running wild against what I had previously thought of as a tough D....LFC still won with the help of turnovers but to allow 246 yards on the ground.......


Also Player of the Week in the Nation...nice job
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Go Hawks on September 21, 2005, 09:53:09 am
Lake Forest will have a good shot at beating Ripon this weekend, but only if their defense plays an awesome game.  That has been the only thing keeping LF in games.  Ripon put up over 400 yards rushing again last week and was stopped 3 times inside the 10.  Coles suprisingly decided to run the clock instead of trying to put another score on them with about 20 seconds left. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on September 21, 2005, 04:16:55 pm
I have to say the top of the Conference looks bizarre to me.  Lake Forrest, Monmouth and Carroll???  Not that the other teams are out of it, but I don't see the champ having more than 1 loss. 

Let's go RC.....LF at home!!! 

Quade is a stud!  Defensive MVP!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: lfcsports on September 21, 2005, 04:28:57 pm
my first post, but I've read the board since '02...

So what's it gonna take for LFC to get respect from everybody? Granted LFC isn't a favorite for the championship until they beat Monmouth or Norbert, but how about 27-6 record since '02, losing only to Monmouth x2, St Norbert x2, Carroll (who played good teams tough in '03) and OK a crappy game to Knox? That mean anything to anyone?

CBS - even odds? How about 3-0 in last three years against Ripon.

#2 is only threat? Huebner's all the Foresters needed thus far, maybe if somebody actually defends the guy then Mahaney will look elsewhere. Plus RBs Washington, Furlong both averaging 5 yds/carry - just don't need to run when you can pass all over everybody.

Rankinen, hell of a game, over 200 yards, you deserve to be on nat'l team.
Title: Beloit
Post by: rome on September 21, 2005, 07:50:38 pm
Gentlemen of Beloit,

Men, you need to pull this together. Send Ed out right. They cannot stop that offense. Get nasty and mean and get a Homecoming Victory.

That is all.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on September 21, 2005, 10:16:34 pm
Hello to all proud scot fans,
I just recently talked with ex-QB#8 and he filled me in on just how great the MC/SNC game was. It's games like that that make me miss playing for Steve Bell.  I saw that the MC D-line got some press for the victory performance, which is exactly how it should be. I bet Ole has got those fellas fired up about bucking the bucs. This week should be really interesting with the Scots visiting Beloit. De George has always been able to get the most out of his teams. On a similar note the Mitchell Mustangs are playing the Gulf High Buccaneers this week if we can manage to dodge a hurricane. Our offense needs to have a break out game to rebound from last weeks shut out.
Well good luck to all those Scoties out there.
Give 'em hell Nick Bush!!!
PMS the Rooster.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 21, 2005, 11:17:04 pm
FloridaScot - Just so you know, this week's game against Beloit is at Monmouth.  Should be a great day for a game here in Scot-land; right now it sounds like the weather here is going to cooperate for Saturday at least, but expecting some rain on the days around gameday.  Good luck staying out of the hurricane troubles down there and get those Mitchell boys back on track this week!  PMS!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on September 22, 2005, 09:31:49 am
http://www.beloit.edu/~sportcnt/
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 22, 2005, 01:01:26 pm
They should've also thanked the conference office for nominating him. :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coolaw56 on September 22, 2005, 08:30:32 pm
Good Luck Brent Becker and our Foresters this Saturday!!!!!!!!!
Though we can't be there in body, we'll be there in spirit.  One game at a time.  Don't look past this one!  
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 23, 2005, 12:39:50 pm
That Keith McMillan can sure tell it like it is...

Week 4 quick hits
-> Eye-opener of the week: Monmouth surging to the front of the Midwest Conference pack. After a 9-1, no-playoff 2004, the Scots don’t appear to be leaving the postseason to chance this time around.

Good luck against the Bucs!

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   ;D
Title: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on September 23, 2005, 12:42:06 pm
I smell a big win this weekend against the Bucs for the Scots.  I know ole got something with making the Bucs black and blue this week.  Can always count on Ole.  Good luck Scots and bring the win back home.  Rooster, help me out.  What is the name of the bowl we are going to win next week and is it still sponsered by Fazoli's.  See you guys later.  PAPA
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 23, 2005, 12:45:53 pm
Go Scots, Buck the Bucs!  you guys need to be 4-0 going into Lake Forest to make the trip worthwhile for Smoov.  As far as the newfound national accolades, "If you dominate, they will come!"

Fighting Scots Football in '05
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: CBS on September 23, 2005, 01:11:24 pm
Yes LFC 3-0 since '02...but weren't all of those game decided in the last minute?

'02--> craziest ending I've ever heard of..
'03--> LFC gets long score to get up 10 and W by 3..
'04--> last year a shoot out.....W by 3

You're right ...not even odds RC by 7
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on September 23, 2005, 02:34:13 pm
It seems SNC has dominated this conference for so long that the rest of the schools are not sure how to react now that they lost.It looks like there are still 4 or 5 teams that think they can win at least a share of the conference crown.This has to be good for everyone and help the eventual con. champ have a better showing in the playoffs.Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: lfcsports on September 23, 2005, 03:32:01 pm
CBS I guess we'll just wait and see tomorrow, huh...explain how three LFC wins changes the odds towards Ripon by a TD???

Yeah 275 pass yards for Faulds that's not bad...oh wait that's for the season.

The Forester D-line is young but the LB corps is the best it's been since Urlacher and Pickering, should be interesting...

I'm sure they'll put up 250-300 rush yards again and yeah, it'll be a close game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: lfcsports on September 23, 2005, 03:38:29 pm
This has to be good for everyone and help the eventual con. champ have a better showing in the playoffs.Any thoughts?

It's good to see that SNC is mortal after all, but it doesn't really change anything for anyone. This conference has been a single-elimination tournament since '98 thanks to the Green Knights' dominance, and until somebody beats Monmouth it'll still be such.

As far as the playoffs go, not really sure if they'll be better prepared. When it gets to a point where SNC, LFC, Ripon, Carroll, IC, Monmouth all are beating up on e/o and the conf. champ is 7-2, then I think that'll be true, but Monmouth beating SNC is trading apples for oranges at this point.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on September 23, 2005, 03:43:37 pm
good point...as much as it pains me to say it, the conference's best bet is for the scots to go undefeated and make a good showing in the playoffs...that wil also indicate whether thye have taken a step up or the knights a step down. in monmouth plays well in the playoffs, i'd say there are 2 programs in the league worthy of some attention as opposed to 1...no offense to the rest of the league, but it has been a 1 horse race for a while and although the playoff results were not favorable, a multiple loss conference champ getting blown out in the first round is not going to help anything...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on September 23, 2005, 04:46:31 pm
I still think it's better for every team in the conference if we have 3 or 4 good teams as opposed to the one dominant team we've had the last (? ) years.You have to play against quality teams to get better.Unless SNC is down this year and everyone else is still mediocre it's all smoke and mirrors anyway.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 23, 2005, 08:40:55 pm
     I don't think there's any doubt that the Knights are having an off year.  Along with the defense trying to get used to a new system, the offense is trying to get going with a new qb.  Craig seems capable of doing the job but still has a ways to go.  In the first three games he's been sacked 11 times and has thrown 5 picks.  Unlike Hartman he can run and I think he needs to use that ability more.  He'll get better with time but unfortunately next year he won't have George or McConville to throw to and Meehan will be gone too.  I can see the defense only getting better.  They'll lose only a couple of starters to graduation.
     If Monmoth could go undefeated they might get a home playoff game which would be good for them.  Personally I'd like to see someone trip them up so SNC could have a shot at sharing the conference championship.
 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: lfcsports on September 24, 2005, 08:01:05 pm
I'm sure they'll put up 250-300 rush yards again and yeah, it'll be a close game.

ok good call CBS Ripon by 7...

\eats words\
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on September 24, 2005, 08:26:26 pm
So there were a couple upsets this week around the league.  LFC to Ripon and Carroll to Lawerence (Who would of thought that).  Norbert back to their dominant selfs against Knox.  Monmouth seemed to have a great day in the first half scoring everytime they touched the ball.  But seemed to call the dogs off in the second half.  Well looks like everyone is beating up on each other in the conference.  Does anyone think Monmouth will get some votes for the top 25 this week?
What does everyone think about the Scots now; are they the dominant team this year in the conference?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DU HAST on September 24, 2005, 09:02:03 pm
The end of week 4 and Lawrence 45 players listed on the roster and SNC 114 players on their roster have the same number of loses.

Don't start crying again Meech I am just stating the facts

Monmouth recieve top 25 votes; they haven't beaten anybody. Don't say SNC because SNC is no where near where we were the last time we were ranked in 2003 and anybody who thinks so stop drinking the river water. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on September 24, 2005, 11:40:05 pm
The end of week 4 and Lawrence 45 players listed on the roster and SNC 114 players on their roster have the same number of loses.

But they are each only allowed 11 on the field at a time last time I checked.

Trying to teach 45 guys a new system or a system in general is a lot easier than doing the same for 114.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on September 25, 2005, 05:26:16 am
Jim, we ... you don't have that right anymore. You had four years to make your mark at SNC ... What did you contribute? 2003, great job. Give these kids now some credit.
**** Larry, and their coaching staff. You side with them. We don't need you. Until you and your boy do something great like we, not you, did at SNC, piss on you. We don't need you.
Thanks for your opinion though. It matters to your new team.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: CBS on September 25, 2005, 01:47:12 pm
Surprise surprise congrats LU.Heard it was a great game.
How'd they lose to KNOX?

IC's puttin' up the points...should be interesting w/ the league's longest trip this week...SNC @ IC

RC goes to CC....always a close one there....

LU gets 0-3;0-4 @ BC

And MC gets MAYBE it's last challenge w/ LFC @LFC

Where are KNOX & GC or does anyone care?

Heard RC had a TD called back late 2nd QTR which would have tied it at 1/2 14 all....RC D got tough in 2nd 1/2 and shut down LFC......rumor has it LFC fans were talking about MC.....sounds like the players were thinking ahead also...regardless if LFC can pull this off....should be an interesting finish....

CBS out
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: John Arps on September 25, 2005, 08:47:31 pm
Greg,

Completely agree with your post.   Jim, WE, don't need you anymore.  Stay at Larry and keep being around the bottom of the conference.  Guys at SNC, keep at it, you still have a shot to be conference champs.  Anything can happen on a saturday, LU blocks a Carroll kick, come one, and Ripon beats LFC.  Anyone can still knock off Monmouth.    Jim, just keep being that no talent *** clown who rode the coattails of other supposed All-American. Jim, as far as 2003 in concerned, we had a good team.  The 2004 team could have probably beat the 2003 team and had LaCrosse on the ropes but the tires fell off.  The 04 team was ranked just as long as the 03 team.  Also, you and your all-american make a great couple.  Hope SNC hangs 70 on LU in two weeks.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on September 25, 2005, 10:31:41 pm
John Arps sounds like an excuse to me about last year's team.  I think that they just couldn't get the job done when it came to playing the big teams.  Hopefully we can get a good representative this year in the playoffs, that no one has to make excuses for.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: big senor td on September 26, 2005, 04:38:33 am
are you kidding me with these posts....

st. norbert is down...but still very good


monomouth as much as it pains me to say it is very tough... the tanney to haffner connection seems to be pretty good

lfc where are your play calls coming from

ic how did you get beat by carrol

ripon how did you beat lfc

carrol how did you lose to lawrence and beat ic...terds

beloit great option qb and fullback will anyone else play some football...

grinnell keep riding phalzer...he might be your only player...he is your only player

lawrence good job winning a game

knox you beat lawrence i hope you enjoy your only win
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 26, 2005, 10:19:03 am
"Monmouth seemed to have a great day in the first half scoring everytime they touched the ball.  But seemed to call the dogs off in the second half."  Jester 76

Yeah, I'd say Monmouth called off the dogs.  Other than the comeback win vs. SNC, here are the scores for the Scots' three games after the third quarter:
37-6 vs. Concordia
48-12 vs. Ripon
56-14 vs. Beloit

Hopefully, calling off the dogs doesn't hurt in DIII like it does in the BCS Poll where the "quality of the win" is judged in part by margin of victory. 

On to Lake Forest... 

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"  >:(
 
 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on September 26, 2005, 12:11:23 pm
Scottie,

Great point, the SNC game is the only one where the MC starters have played late in the game.  I think the three headed monster of bell, braun and ragone are doing a very classy job in dominating without embarrasing.  For those of you who still dont want to respect what MC has done so far, go ask the BC, RC and Concordia coaching staffs how greatful they are that MC didnt drop 70 or 80 on them. 

As far as tanney to haffner goes, it might be the closest thing to montana to rice that illinois has ever seen.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on September 26, 2005, 12:13:46 pm
Well, good win by the scots this past weekend.  They have an offense unlike any other.  I know that Tanney is a good player, but lets not remember who is calling the game as well.  Coach Bell is a brilliant offensive mind and he finally has all the tools to work with.  

I have my ax in hand and am ready to go cutting some trees.  I will be there to watch Monmouth get a win versus a tough Lake Forerst team.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on September 26, 2005, 12:23:44 pm
Pat Coleman what does Monmouth have to do to get some respect in the polls?  I know they don't matter when it comes to playing on Saturday, but if Norbert were in the position that Monmouth is right now in Conference play, because no matter what they were going to lose to Whitewater.  Sorry Norbert fans.  I mean look at the stats they have constantly dominated their opponents.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 26, 2005, 12:39:14 pm
Let's calm down Monmouth fans.   ;D  I'm sure the powers that be will begin to notice the Scots as the weeks go by and one of the nation's longest winning streaks (hopefully) continues to increase.  We did get a nice feature on this website last week, afterall.

With that said, I'm more than a little surprised that perennial CCIW punching bag North Park even has 16 votes in the week four poll, while the MWC is currently staring at a goose egg. 

Have fun at LFC Papa, and sharpen the axe.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Go Hawks on September 26, 2005, 12:43:25 pm
How did Ripon beat LFC you ask?  The box scores spells it out, time of posession and running 84 offensive plays.  Scoring inside the 20 and playing sound defense.  Letting Faulds pass and run for as much as he did was the killer.  I am glad to see Coach Ernst call a great game in second half and make some adjustments, the d is looking much better. 

Monmouth, you guys like pretty good.  Wait a few weeks until you are 7-0 and you will get moved up in the top 25.  I hope you don't have a let down, because the way you guys are looking this could be a great a season.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on September 26, 2005, 02:56:39 pm
Jim,
I owe you an apology. I'm sorry for the harsh comments I directed toward you the other night. I was drinking and posting, and said some things I did not mean.
I am sorry.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 26, 2005, 04:15:59 pm
     In 2003 SNC didn't break into the top 25 until week 7.  They were pretty good that year.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2005, 05:46:58 pm
With that said, I'm more than a little surprised that perennial CCIW punching bag North Park even has 16 votes in the week four poll, while the MWC is currently staring at a goose egg. 

Scottie,

That is North Central, not North Park.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: War Pig on September 26, 2005, 06:21:43 pm
The MWC won't get respect in the polls until they do something in the playoffs, or beat a good team from a rival conference.  The same thing holds true for any other school in any division.  I'm not saying that Monmouth couldn't get a playoff win this year, but the fact that they are a newcomer as far as success goes doesn't get them a lot of respect either.  Hell, a lot of people that vote on stuff probably think their located in Monmouth, New Jersey.  Also, beating weak sisters like Ripon and Beloit won't score you any points either.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2005, 06:25:08 pm
I beg to differ. Our voters know where Monmouth is. They just don't have it on their ballot.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DU HAST on September 26, 2005, 08:31:43 pm
Is everybody on their period. I simply mention that SNC has a lot of work to do to get back to where the point when the school was last recognized nationally and give some props a rebuilding program (where i have a lot of friends) and everybody flips out on me. IT IS ONLY D3 FOOTBALL. LIGHTEN UP THEIR ARE BIGGER THINGS IN THE WORLD. I have never cheered against SNC (and i won't when they play lawrence). And if you have no loyalty to Howard or any of the assistants who left, well it show how clueless and how much practice you guys skipped. They were the difference for us that 2003 season. And to all the SNC idiots who worship everything Purtill says stop criticzing me for being critical of the coaches when you let other people slide for ripping on the snc players. There have been many times when i have read alumns on this board tear into snc players heart and effort and in my opinion the seniors and jrs on norberts worked with more effort and intenisty than any of you so SHUT UP.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on September 26, 2005, 09:17:12 pm
Well still I don't understand why everyone looks down on MWC.  The conference seems to be very strong this year.  I mean they are beating up each other pretty good teams that should beat others are doing the unthinkable.  And yeah on the fact of palying stronger out of conference games why play a middle road CCIW team if they are going to totally destroy one of your weaker teams in the conference.  And I think one school did. That is right Carroll did and they keep it close to Carthage the whole game.  But yet everyone instead of judging them as weak says they had an off week. I call BS.  The MWC is stronger than anyone gives them credit.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2005, 09:33:27 pm
You prove nothing as a league playing Macalester, CUW and Blackburn. Congrats on being better than two of the worst teams in college football. And to Monmouth, congrats on being better than the third- or fourth-best team in the No. 24 conference in Division III.

That doesn't get you into the Top 25. You do realize there are 231 Division III teams, right? It's a lot harder to get into our Top 25 than it is for one of the 119 Division I-A teams to get into the Top 25.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on September 26, 2005, 10:44:50 pm
Hello proud Scots fans,
Let it be known that I agree that MC needs some deserved recognition but, as Ragone would say "control what you can control." The boys from MC will keep on keeping on and the votes will come.
Now with that said, PAPA I believe the bowl game you are refering to is the little known but highly sought after Fazolis.com Bog Bowl. This contest dates back nearly as long as the Turkey bowl and recently has had greater conferences ramifications. The trophy had been hand crafted by skilled artisans with percision crystal cutting tools, and might I add quite a sight to see. PAPA have a great time at the game and give OLE a bark for me. This week I will have my hands full trying to right the ship that is Mitchell H.S. football after suffering a last second lost to the Gulf H.S. Buccaneers (final score 29-28). Good luck in the BOG Scoties.
Aint it great to be a scot! PMS
The Rooster
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 26, 2005, 11:01:56 pm
I think DU HAST just might be right--everyone seems to be on their period and/or just plain moody right now.  Alot of things being thrown back and forth recently, and it's only Monday...there's still alot of the week left, we all need to pace ourselves!

Anyhow, the good old Fazolis.com Bog Bowl.  Papa, I'm planning on being there also with a few other Fighting Scot alumni and will be sure to keep an eye open for you.

Like Florida Scot said: Control what you can control, win the games that are on your schedule, and the recognition of being mentioned in the D3football.com Top 25 Poll will come in its own time. 

Also, Monmouth fans who are calling for the recognition--don't forget that the Scots were receiving votes in last week's AFCA Top 25 Poll and could move up a little in this week's poll that will be released tomorrow.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2005, 11:14:55 pm
Yes, and if we expanded our voter pool to 40 people you might get votes in our poll too. :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on September 27, 2005, 12:14:46 am
There is no way that a team from this conf. should get any recognition besides maybe a few votes, and that team should be greatful.  No team is deserving of a top 25 ranking because they can't hold a candle to any of the top teams in this area.  If you look at teams in the CCIW they compete nationally every year and actually win playoff games.  Teams in the WIAC also play at another level compared to this conf.  Look at WW for the second year in a row just embarrasing SNC and this conf. as a whole. 

Until Monmouth goes undefeated and wins their first round game and actually plays somebody then there is no reason for recognition.   
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: dw71911 on September 27, 2005, 07:42:28 am
You can't take away from what MC offense has done. But why is nobody talking MC first team defense? Other than SNC I believe there has been six points scored against them in the first half while the first team is still in there.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on September 27, 2005, 08:59:02 am
Sorry I'm so late but........CONGRATS RIPON on an impressive win over Lake Forest.  When not many gave them credit they come out and shut them out in the second half and score 3 times.  Must have been an exciting half of football.....wish I could have seen it.

Quade for Defensive MVP!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 27, 2005, 11:32:00 am
Pat: Thanks for correcting me on the North Park/North Central issue.  What was I thinking?

And to the rest of the Scots' fans watching the polls:  Mr. Coleman (if you please) will let us know when he's good and ready to start sending some love in Monmouth's direction.  If it helps, Pat, we'd be happy to send you a fruit cake with some haggus on the side.   ;D

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(  (my new game face)

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 27, 2005, 12:29:58 pm
Just checked that "other" poll (AFCA Top 25) that according to Pat C. has too many voters and saw that Monmouth is the first team listed in the receiving votes category this week.  The Scots could possibly break into that Top 25 next week if business is taken care of on Saturday at Lake Forest...and, who knows, might even be lucky enough grab a vote or two next week in the almighty Top 25 poll here on D3football.com.  ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on September 27, 2005, 01:07:06 pm
"There is no way that a team from this conf. should get any recognition besides maybe a few votes, and that team should be greatful.  No team is deserving of a top 25 ranking because they can't hold a candle to any of the top teams in this area.  "

Interesting.  So, using your logic (?), there is no way a WIAC team should get a top 10 ranking until their champion proves they can keep it closer than 38 points in a playoff game against Linfield?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 27, 2005, 01:23:23 pm
Dolph,

The list of teams that stayed within sight of Linfield is pretty short. That's an awful high standard. :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on September 27, 2005, 01:47:20 pm
"The list of teams that stayed within sight of Linfield is pretty short. That's an awful high standard."

Agreed.  Just trying to illustrate the absurdity of the logic.  Last year, Whitewater did take it to St Norberts.  However, Norberts went to LaCrosse for the playoffs (a team that beat WW 35-10) and held a 23-10 lead entering the fourth quarter.  This hardly can be used as an example of not being able to compete with the top teams in the area.

Monmouth has yet to face the "best" in the Midwest but if and when they do, their accomplishments should stand on their own.  To use WW's games against SNC to claim that Monmouth is undeserving allows me to claim that no team in the WIAC is closer than five touchdowns to the defending national champ and therefore unworthy of a top 10 ranking.

Perhaps Monmouth will prove to be unworthy when the playoffs come.  However, St Norberts performance in the past two playoffs (vitory over Simpson, loss to NC St Johns in 03 and the Lacrosse game last season) would certainly seem to indicate that the MWC champs can be competive with very good programs.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on September 27, 2005, 09:57:05 pm
"The list of teams that stayed within sight of Linfield is pretty short. That's an awful high standard."

Agreed.  Just trying to illustrate the absurdity of the logic.  Last year, Whitewater did take it to St Norberts.  However, Norberts went to LaCrosse for the playoffs (a team that beat WW 35-10) and held a 23-10 lead entering the fourth quarter.  This hardly can be used as an example of not being able to compete with the top teams in the area.

Monmouth has yet to face the "best" in the Midwest but if and when they do, their accomplishments should stand on their own.  To use WW's games against SNC to claim that Monmouth is undeserving allows me to claim that no team in the WIAC is closer than five touchdowns to the defending national champ and therefore unworthy of a top 10 ranking.

Perhaps Monmouth will prove to be unworthy when the playoffs come.  However, St Norberts performance in the past two playoffs (vitory over Simpson, loss to NC St Johns in 03 and the Lacrosse game last season) would certainly seem to indicate that the MWC champs can be competive with very good programs.

If there was an icon that showed a pair of hands clapping, I'd put it in right here.  I applaud you and your very good points in that last post Dolph Stanley.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Go Hawks on September 28, 2005, 11:14:02 am
Ripon/UWO:
http://www.wisinfo.com/northwestern/sports/stories/sports_22780495.shtml
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on September 28, 2005, 11:41:14 am
I think that was a great move by Ripon to add UWO on the schedule.  This will easly give them a taste of what it will take to be #1 in the conference and get them ready to play in the play offs.   Early how ya doing?  1st post, long time reader.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on September 28, 2005, 04:07:22 pm
The early line:

Ripon  -  (-7)
Nubs  -   (-13.5)
Monmouth - (15.5)
Beloit  -   (-2)
Macalester - (even)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on September 28, 2005, 06:28:40 pm
That is pretty exciting that RC and UWO are gonna face off the next 4 years!!!  Maybe that will even get the bball programs hooping a little too. (my own little pipe dream)

Hawk Sighting, I'm doing well.   What about you?  1st post.....welcome to the dark side.....ha ha ha (evil laugh)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coolaw56 on September 28, 2005, 08:30:01 pm
LFC HOMECOMING 2005
Hey, #57 of the 2002 LFC team, you gonna be at Homecoming on October 8?  Haven't gotten any of those late Friday night calls lately.  Hope everything is okay.  Sorry you missed the big graduation party, but hope you and Bernsy can make it to homecoming.  Come out and help cheer on our Foresters.  #56 will be there with bells on.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on September 29, 2005, 12:16:55 pm
are you kidding me with these posts....

st. norbert is down...but still very good


monomouth as much as it pains me to say it is very tough... the tanney to haffner connection seems to be pretty good

lfc where are your play calls coming from

ic how did you get beat by carrol

ripon how did you beat lfc

carrol how did you lose to lawrence and beat ic...terds

beloit great option qb and fullback will anyone else play some football...

grinnell keep riding phalzer...he might be your only player...he is your only player

lawrence good job winning a game

knox you beat lawrence i hope you enjoy your only win
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on September 29, 2005, 03:00:59 pm
Just say what you want to say - You hate JP3 and Howard should have been the head man all along.
Don't dance so much.
Remember, some thought Monken was at the same level as Howard, which is not true.
Also, I don't care who you root for, but why should I feel bad for defending my friends in De Pere at the school I played for and graduated from? You are ruffling more feathers than I. These guys read some jibber on here from guys they thought were always alongside them, and don't know what to think.
Again, sorry for the harsh, uncalled for comments earlier. I do see some of your point. But, if I still played there, I, just like the 8 or 10 I saw last weekend, would scratch my head. IN the words of an unnamed source, what did JP# ever do to you?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on September 29, 2005, 04:32:03 pm
I know Monmouth can throw but that does seem to be the strongest  part of LFC game (pass D).LFC has had trouble stopping the run,will MC run or will they still try to air it out? Any thoughts from Scots fans?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 29, 2005, 06:41:50 pm
     Against the Knights, it was Monmoth's passing game that won it for them.  Haffner was their main receiver and it seems to me if they could have shut him down in the 2nd half like they did in the 1st they could have won.  They have a fast running back who did well in the 1st half but was quieted by the SND in the 2nd half.  You'll know the who the running back is because there will be an annoying guy in the stands shouting "It's Dante time!" and "4.2 speed coming 'round the corner!" incessantly.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on September 29, 2005, 07:47:29 pm
Is there any predictions out there yet for this weekend?  I believe Ripon will come out a head at Carroll.  They have had a rough time at Carroll, but they have been improving all season, so look out Carroll it might be a crushing by the hawks.  Look for the D holding carroll to no more than 14 and the O putting atleast 28 on the scoreboard. 
Title: SNC hostility
Post by: Old_Style on September 30, 2005, 12:15:16 pm
Pawlik....what's with all of the hostility? calm down. you should not get so worked up about the wayward opinion of ONE guy. i am not going to lie. it will be awkward next week in A-town to see half of the former SNC staff on the LU sideline but I do agree with you and have argued in the past that despite this occurance, all loyalties should remain to SNC. this is not a roman legion. loyalties should be to the alma mater, not to a coach. do i wish the former SNC staff well, of course, but next saturday i will be wearing the green and gold. bill, stop causing trouble. anyone traveling to IC? i got a roadie planned with the old man for all that want a ride. if anything, see you in A-town!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on September 30, 2005, 02:02:50 pm
OS, you said it better than I. I think that's what I wanted to say all along, but couldn't see past the initial junk.
I am officially retiring this subject until Monday.

Bill, aka Jim, are you riding up with Steerman?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on September 30, 2005, 02:31:07 pm
LFCdad - My best prediction (and I certainly hope I'm right) is that you will see a very balanced MC attack.  Their offensive numbers, both in the air and on the ground, have ranged from very solid to explosive.  So, the LFC defense should be put to the test. 

If I was a LFC fan, however, I would be just as concerned with their offense against the Scots' defense - and I'm talking not about their 4th quarter defense.  LFC hasn't been exactly lighting up the scoreboard this season, in my opinion (20.3 ppg vs. MC's 43 ppg). 

Another little nugget as we head into the middle of the season...  During this 3-game stretch last season (vs. LFC, Grinnell and Lawrence), Monmouth won all three by a combined score of 98-0.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on September 30, 2005, 05:08:37 pm
Thanks Scottie thats what I was affarid of, a balanced attack.Lfc can hold thier own against the pass but has strugled to stop the run. I don't know what to think of the offence.One series they run the ball great then they think they have to mix it up and try to throw.The D is on the field way to long.If LFC can't get a more balenced attact its going to be a long day.Papa smurf thanks for the heads up on the annoying guy with Dante time.I'll try to sit in the end zone.Good Luck to all the players and lets hope they all stay healthy.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on September 30, 2005, 06:46:28 pm
     I still think Monmoth's strength is the passing game.  If the LFD keeps pressure on Tanney, not letting him find Haffner all the time, they might be able to keep them from scoring more than 2 or 3 td's.  When I saw him play he was least effective when he was forced out of the pocket.  Be that as it may, they'll probably score a lot an don't think the LF offense will be able to do the same against Monmoth's d.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ccfan69 on October 01, 2005, 09:19:13 am
Its Carroll Homecoming.  They are going to be pumped.  Look for a Carroll Win today.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on October 01, 2005, 11:04:11 pm
Congrats to a very good Monmoth team.They have a well balanced attack on O and big ,fast,very strong D. Nice job by thier fans also. Great turnout for a road game.Good luck the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 03, 2005, 09:16:55 am
Thanks for the compliments LFCdad.  It's good to hear that both the Monmouth players and fans did a good job.

I'm not sure what to say about the game.  Two interceptions for touchdowns, a runner for 129 yards, and a 21-27 passer.  It must have been their day.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on October 03, 2005, 10:55:07 am
Hey Hawk fans out there.....was anyone at the Carroll game?  Just wondering about the game cause the stats don't always tell the story.  I realize that the offense isn't really geared towards putting up a lot of points all at once.....it's more like Coach Boone in "Remember the Titans"....."It's like novicane...give it time it always works."  So that doesn't help when you get behind by a lot the way the Redhawks did. 

Hawk Sighting....Homecoming this weekend?  You gonna be there?  I will be.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on October 03, 2005, 11:23:06 am
Way to go bucs in getting the HC win over LU!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on October 03, 2005, 12:36:58 pm
I went to Monmouth-Lake Forest game and I was truly disappointed.  I am big Monmouth fan and I am happy that they won, but a shutout against LFC at their home field.
Monmouth is a good squad, but what the heck is happening at LFC.  They had the ball inside their 40 twice in the second half and...PUNTED the ball.  Not to mention the poor clock management at the end of the first half.  I guess the Lake Forest coaches are just happy playing football.  Something is wrong with the players and coaching staff at LFC.  They seem that they are content to just stay in the game.  LFC was a great program and still is, but what happened in the game on Saturday.  I havent watched LFC play all year, so maybe this is an ongoing thing.  I want the MWC to be competitive and would like to see a team come to play.  Any team can beat any body on any given day.  Lets have at it the last half of the season and bring the noise.  Go Scotties, Beat the Pioneers this weeekend.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: CBS on October 03, 2005, 01:38:09 pm
Can anyone beat MC?
Oct 8 @ GC...nope
Oct 15th host LU...nope
Oct 22 host IC....???
Oct 29 @ CC...???
Nov 5 @ KNOX Bronze Turkey..nope

Oct 8 games
BC @ CC
KNOX @ LFC
IC @ RC
SNC @ LU
MC @ GC
thoughts?? 
Congrats BC
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: 1morefan on October 03, 2005, 02:41:09 pm
Hi, kinda new to the D3 board as far as writing goes. Early how do the stats for Ripon game not show you anything? Carroll completely waxed them up and down the field in all three phases of the game!

As far as anyone beating Monmouth we'll see, they are a pretty talented team, I agree with CBS Carroll or IC have the only shot left at beating them. IC has a load of talent at their skill positions that could give Monmouth some problems and Carroll is starting to get a "home-field" advantage and will play monmouth tough.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 03, 2005, 03:01:53 pm
Hello Scotland Fans,

just got back from my midwestern trip.  very glad i got to see a very dominant Fighting Scot Club.

Can anyone say statement!  the MC staff (prolly tired of the rookies getting lit up in the 4th, and having ppl think we have no D) very classily (word?) and strategically let the boys play (mainly the d) a little bit longer so as to preserve the shutout. 

Not only did the offense come to play (third quarter tanney to haffner was amazing) but the defense just looked freakishly better.  LFC had no where to run, the qb had no time (nor any open receivers) to pass, and the MC defense seemed to be playing with a (dare i say it) championship swagger.  Yes the O is great but the D seemed to be HITTING on all cylinders.

LFC played hard the whole game (especially #10 on D, even though the stats against him wont show it) but they were just brutally overmatched.  These arent your older brothers fighting scots (id say mothers but we were actually good in the late 70's) these boys are for real.

Great Job and keep it up.

And as for IC or Carroll giving the Scotties a game, just look at the stats from last year (the ic game was the blueboys homecoming, ugly).  NC baby, no contest!

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 03, 2005, 04:22:51 pm
A quick toast to the Scots for cracking the shell which is the Pat Coleman Mafia  ;D a few weeks earlier than predicted.  Yes, it's only one vote for the top 25....but it's a start.  Go Scots!

"Monmouth Football in 2005!" [/color]   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on October 03, 2005, 05:40:14 pm
It"s nice to see some chatter on this site. I am in total agreement with you papa90 that we need to be competitive as a conference if we are going to get any respect.As for sat. game against MC what can I say everything went right for them.They have the best D we have faced so far and their QB looked very good.LFC will be OK they are young and so is their staff. Once they figure out how to run the ball and mix it up a little better everything will be fine. Looking at the games so far in the conference it seems there is no sure thing.It might be  to early to judge SNC,but it looks like everyone else is having trouble putting together two or three good games in a row.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on October 04, 2005, 09:00:40 am
1morefan,
What I was saying was the stats don't ALWAYS tell the story.....and was just asking for some input on the subject.  The score also tells the story sometimes too....and the stats and score appear that Carroll wooped up on Ripon.
I just was curious if anything else played a factor....injuries, turnovers, penalties, etc.  Cause some of RC usually dominant players didn't have the stats they usually do.

Fight it off Hawks!!  Get ready for Homecoming vs. IC. 

:o Holla! :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: 1morefan on October 04, 2005, 01:16:42 pm
Early,

Carroll jumped all over them right away, INT for TD, blocked punt for a safety and TD. Now from my understanding Jahns the running back was hurt last week and didn't play and was seen at the game on crutches, him being hurt obviously hurt RC.

On the subject of conference getting respect we have to start having teams show more in the post-season. SNC had UWL beat from what I heard and didn't put them away, if we want the respect around the nation things like that cannot happen!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on October 04, 2005, 05:32:47 pm
The carroll game?!  What can I say, from the sound of it I dont think anyone showed up for the game.  I can just imagine the thought process before the game, "they lost to LU, they can not be that good".  Well Carroll came out and was ready to play.  It's something that is sad that it had to happen but the season isnt over.  Congrats to Carroll, were they the better team? Sat, yes  they were, over all i am not sure.  I wish the Hawks the best of luck this weekend.  I also know that we always have a tough time at Carroll expesially during their homecoming, not trying to give an excuse, because Carroll you deserved to get the W sat!!   

Early i am sorry but i will be missing the Homecoming game, i will be in Nebraska for work.  Let me know how it goes, and have a couple for me that night! 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Ripon Redmen 78 on October 04, 2005, 09:26:41 pm
The problem with SNC is the Jason Housh factor is gone, remember he either played on all of their championship teams or played along side and tutored all  of the major contributors to their championship run. What a brilliant move it was when Jason suggested the coaches move him from FB to the DL and Jeremiah Janssen from DB to LB, this spurred the championship run. I'm sure if you ask Jeremiah Janssen, he will tell you the reason he is not in the NFL today is Housh was not in the Jets camp. Bring him back and return to GLORY! 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on October 04, 2005, 11:45:57 pm
"On the subject of conference getting respect we have to start having teams show more in the post-season. SNC had UWL beat from what I heard and didn't put them away, if we want the respect around the nation things like that cannot happen!"

I can't speak for anyone else but I have little desire to see teams in the MWC aspire to being able to compete at the highest levels of D3 football.  If it happens great, but I repsect the conference as a whole for continuing to recruit students who also want to play football. To expect the average MWC school with somewhere between 1000-1250 students (in most cases less than half men)  admission standards that range form selective to highly selective and tuition room and board in the $25,000-$35,000 range to compete on a consistent basis with schools from the WIAC is simply not realistic.

Winning the conference is a great accomplishment.  Winning a first round game as SNC did two years ago is wonderful.  Competing to the final whistle with a national champion Saint Johns team and a very good UWLC as Norberts has done the past two seasons also solid accomplishments. 

I will be cheering for whoever wins the conference this year to go deep in to the tournament.  However, the conference as it is made up right now will never be a football power and should that become a point of emphasis I think you would see several of the most prestigious and long term members look to play elsewhere.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 05, 2005, 09:31:43 am

The Early Line-


Carroll -10.5

Monmouth -23

Ripon -13

Lake Forest -11

SNC -6.5
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 05, 2005, 09:48:46 am
Many interesting games around the MWC this week.  Far and away the best team is Monmouth and they continue to show it this week destroying Grinnell.  MC has the best O and D in the conf.  I can't wait to see what happens in the Nubs vs. Larry this week.  Meehan has just started to pick up his scoring and I think they need to get George the ball more.  LC has been in close games all year so who knows what can happen.  I think Ripon should handle the Blue Boys at home during homecoming? but an upset isn't out of question either.  LFC should batter Knox for the second year in a row, but the only thing getting battered lately for the Foresters is their offense by opposing teams.  Good luck to all teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Longtooth on October 05, 2005, 03:31:12 pm
I just saw that the job at Beloit is going to open up, does anyone know what happened here?  What is the job like, I would assume that they can be good just based on location.  Any info????
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on October 05, 2005, 08:21:23 pm
Coach DeGeorge has simply decided to call it quits after 29 years as Head Coach and A.D. I don't think "anything happened there" to force him out.

As far as Beloits ability to be competetive because of their location, mmmmmmm, I have to agree with Dolph. Football isn't that big a deal in the conference and it's not cheap to attend any of the schools.

More often than not the MWC entrant in the NCAA field will face a National Power in the first round, because of their location, so advancing to the second round is never likely to happen. I'm not holding my breath to see a MWC team in the Stagg Bowl any time soon as it would require major upsets throughout the bracket.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on October 05, 2005, 10:10:51 pm
     It looks like an old, cold rivalry may heat up this weekend in Appleton.  I'd put the over/under at ten(personal fouls not points). ;)
Title: SNC vs. LU
Post by: meachscribe on October 06, 2005, 11:12:18 am
They say it can't be a rivalry when it's one sided. (Lately that is). Don't have time to look up the history, but I'm sure someone is aware of it. Please advise.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: CBS on October 06, 2005, 03:49:05 pm
SNC-LU shold be a good one. Lots of story lines there. Many a close game between the two so I'd call it a rivalry. History has to favor SNC slightly. I know they played a night TV game a few yrs back. Is this one @130 or later? I still like SNC,but not by >8. GO RC -7;CC -5; LFC -10 ; MC -28.

Play well all
Be safe
out
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on October 07, 2005, 09:29:04 am
Let's go Beloit...bring the traveling trophey back in DeGeorge's final game v. the pios!!!!!!
We are Beloit!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Longtooth on October 07, 2005, 10:17:10 am
Who are some of the names for the job at Beloit, are they going to go young or old?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 07, 2005, 11:11:37 am
Good luck to the Scots this weekend.  Hope they take care of business.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on October 07, 2005, 11:40:52 am
There will be a Nation-wide search conducted following the season.
They have some great options if they decide to stay in-staff. The success of the program's future will soley depend on how the college allows the new staff to recruit.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Longtooth on October 07, 2005, 12:14:20 pm
Rome-
   Does the school not allow them to recruit off campus?  How about the league?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on October 07, 2005, 12:39:22 pm
Longtooth,
The MWC does not allow off campus recruiting.  This is one of the main reasons why the MWC is not a premiere league.  If a coach wants to get a player from a big time program in the state.  The WIAC or the CCIW will send there coaches or players their to recruit.  The MWC sends them a postcard.  I know what school I would go to if a coach showed up and asked me to go to their school. We lose high quality players every year, not because of the money issue, though that may drive some away, but the face to face contact that the players want and need.  Hopefully the MWC will get something straight in the years to come.  On the other hand, Scotties have a great game next up at Grinnell.  Beat the Pioneers! 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Longtooth on October 07, 2005, 01:35:59 pm
PAPA-
   THX FOR THE INFO!!  HOW DID NORBERT'S DO IT?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on October 07, 2005, 08:02:01 pm
1985 Bears...Yes!!!

2005 Sox...Maybe.

2025 Cubs...Nah!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on October 08, 2005, 05:54:09 pm
Saturday (10/8) Final Scores
Carroll 31 - Beloit 21
Monmouth 69 - Grinnell 14
Lake Forest 28 - Knox 14
St. Norbert 44 - Lawrence 15
Illinois College at Ripon, can't find a score yet
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on October 09, 2005, 09:55:39 am
Ripon pulls out the W. 

Early, how was homecoming?  Lot of people back?  Good game to watch?  See they won, but how did they play?

And for those of you that said the Lawrence vs St. Norberts games was going to be a good game, must have been drinking or taking something.  Give Lawrence two or three years with this new coach and then there might be a "rivalery"   Otherwise its the same ole same ole when the big houses play the boys in blue.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on October 09, 2005, 09:23:41 pm
"They have some great options if they decide to stay in-staff. The success of the program's future will soley depend on how the college allows the new staff to recruit. "

I see no in-staff who I would consider a great choice but would be curious as to who you feel fits that bill.

I am weary of the ongoing cry of Beloit people (I am one by the way) that somehow it is the administration that is the primary factor holding back their sports programs.  DeGeorge is a fine man and an ok coach but at best a below average recruiter. While the administration may have put some requirements on football recruits, much of the blame for the lack of numbers over the past few years must rest with the program itself.  With 27-28 years worth of graduated players around the country, ask how many of them have been contacted in the past 3-4 years requesting that they help with the recrutiing process.  Ask the coaches at the majority of powerhouse high school programs around Wisconsin and Northern Illinois if they currently have a strong relationship with the coaching staff.  Ask those in the know involved with the admissions process if the football programs recrutiing methods have kept place with the changing scene of overall recruiting for small Liberal Arts colleges.

None of this diminishes the accomplishments that DeGeorge has had during his time at Beloit.  However, if he is to be praised for his great success in the ealry 90's it is unfair to try to shift the blame entirely away from him for what has gone on latley
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 10, 2005, 09:42:52 am
Nice job, Scots! 

Interestingly, my bachelor's and master's schools both won by the same score.  My current school...not so much.

And the Scots are now up to 2 votes in the top 25 poll.  That's a 100% increase!   ;D

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on October 10, 2005, 01:29:53 pm
Well Hawk Sighting, Ripon played quite well this weekend.  IC isn't as good as other teams the Hawks lost to, but the Ripon this weekend I think (a guess cause I wasn't at Carroll) was better than the team that showed up at Carroll.  I did find out that Nick Quade only played in the first series at Carroll cause of a knee injury.  Not saying that one player would have made a difference, but a guy who usually leads the team in tackles missing sure doesn't help that defense.

Yes there were a lot of people back and it was fun to see everyone again.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 10, 2005, 06:04:58 pm
keep the snowball rolling scotties!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 10, 2005, 06:07:48 pm
Pat,

Why is the quality of wins index important?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on October 10, 2005, 07:58:47 pm
Dolph

I see Denny Dierick and Brian Bliese as quality choices. (Ceil Youngblood?)

The reason I point my figure at the administration is:

Financial Aid- BC needs to loose the purse strings and allow people to come in-they need to bring in 50-60 kids a year.

Staff size-They need more full-time coaches that are football and football only-allow them to concentrate on recruiting and bringing in talent

The new staff should-host clinics and as you mention build relationships with more H.S. coaches

Localize their approach to recruiting-Beloit is a national institute but they should concentrate on Illinois-Wisconsin-Minni-Iowa-Michigan  this should be their base.

The school has 100 million dollar endowment-let's spend some money on making the Football program something special.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: bobturkviking on October 10, 2005, 08:14:52 pm
Quade played way more than the first series in the Carroll game, and no - he would not have made a difference.  RE: Beloit, how can you possible suggest anyone from on staff? 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on October 10, 2005, 08:47:25 pm
"Financial Aid- BC needs to loose the purse strings and allow people to come in-they need to bring in 50-60 kids a year.
Staff size-They need more full-time coaches that are football and football only-allow them to concentrate on recruiting and bringing in talent"

Beloit continues to be a "need blind" college when it comes to admissions so this is not an issue.  If you want to argue that they should reduce academic standards to bring in football players I will lead the resistance. 

The incoming freshman class each year at Beloit is around 300.  Less than half are men.  Do you really want nearly 50% of the incoming men in any given year to be football recruits?

How many full time coaches do think other MWC have on staff.  The head football coach  has only one job (now that DeGeorge is no longer AD) so has plenty of time to improve recruiting.

The new coach at Beloit needs to be someone who can field a team of 50-60 quality players who meet the academic qualifications (not the highest in the country by any standard but much more difficult than some other institutions they will be competing with).  To do this he will have to sell Beloit as a college which is something I'm not sure has been done in recent years.  It will also be important that the program do a solid job of retention since recrutiing classes in the 20-25 range will probably be much more of the norm
 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on October 11, 2005, 12:25:16 pm
Congrads to the Scotties.  They seem to get better offensively every week.  Any thoughts about Player of the Year candidates?  I know about the Scots, but what about the SNB back or the back from Beliot.  How about the reciever from Carroll?  Tell me what you guys think.  4 weeks left, 6-0 here we go.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: 1morefan on October 11, 2005, 03:11:30 pm
For conference player of the year rightnow my vote would go to Tanney the QB from Monmouth. The kid is putting up sick numbers: 121-159, 21 TD's and only 2 INT's, and an avg of 247 per game. By far the top offensive player in the conference.

Behind him (not in order):
His receiver Haffer
Rankinen
Fletcher from Carroll
Meehan from SNC
Maybe Crocker from Carroll, he's got 11 TD's??

Still with four weeks left its up for grabs
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on October 11, 2005, 04:37:02 pm
You are right bobturkviking.....quade actually played in the first 2 series.  I did make a mistake in that.  I know that he didn't play in any more because he told me himself, and I talked to other RC defenders also.   

But when he was in the game.....2 series.....only a field goal.  When he wasn't in.....touchdowns.  Obvioulsy you can't say Quade was a 5 touchdown difference, but he does make a plays when he is in the game.

 PTPer Baby!  
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on October 11, 2005, 05:43:35 pm
Congrats to LFC. Nice job last week. Jump out to an early lead and let some young kids get some playing time.Running game showed some life but has to hold onto the ball.D looked good again.Still can't understand why QB has to throw so many long balls??Good luck this week at IC ,play hard  and stay healthy.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: bobturkviking on October 11, 2005, 09:41:17 pm
Early - Your mistake again.  I was at the game (and standing about 15 feet from the end zone) and distinctly saw #49 in the end zone on Carroll's first TD early in the 2nd quarter (to make it 17-0).  Maybe your buddies are just looking for excuses.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 12, 2005, 11:57:12 am
Congratulations to Bob Faulds (Ripon) and Bill Rather (Carroll) on making national team of the week

The Early Lines:

SNC  -13.5    Back on Track, Craig playing well

GC  -5    Someone has to win this awful game

LFC  -7    #10 and his Defense win another game for the foresters

MC  -28.5  Tanney hangs half a hundy, doesn't play the 4th
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 12, 2005, 12:54:43 pm
I can live with those outcomes.   ;D

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"  >:(
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p.s.  Where's Maverick??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: MCGramps97 on October 12, 2005, 03:56:11 pm
Hey this is old #97 from the '01 8-2 Scots season. any of my old buddies out there? our boys are looking pretty good. any of you get to see any games? i'm going down for the Turkey Bowl with some of my students. i'd love to hear from you guys. hope all is well.

Go Scots!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on October 12, 2005, 04:52:18 pm
#77 here from that season.  One of my former players is on the team this year so I've been paying close attention.  I was looking into heading down for the Turkey Bowl too.  Good to see I'm not the only old timer on here.  Looks like Bell, Ragone, and Braun have got the program heading to where they said it would be.  GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on October 13, 2005, 12:29:39 am
I can live with those outcomes.   ;D

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"  >:(
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p.s.  Where's Maverick??

Scottie - Maverick is still around; right now I guess that I just haven't had much to post.  Now that I've been called out and I'm here, I suppose I'll go ahead with some thoughts.

Congrats to the Fighting Scots on the big win Saturday at Grinnell and on the rankings in the latest polls.  Other congrats going to Faulds (RC) and Rather (CC) on being named to the D3football.com Team of the Week; and to Faulds and Hanson (LFC) on being named to the Football Gazette Team of the Week.

MCGramps97, McAlum77 - Great to see some more Scots here on the board with the rest of us!  The numbers are growing...  :)

Hope to see alot of other Monmouth alumni in the coming weeks at Homecoming or at the Turkey Bowl.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on October 13, 2005, 09:37:42 am
     I don't know if you Monmoth fans have seen it yet but Mitch Tanney is currently the #1 ranked qb in D3 right now.  I know Pat probably isn't impressed but I am.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 13, 2005, 09:49:31 am
P. Smurf:

At Monmouth we have an EXCELLENT SID department which puts out a weekly electronic newsletter.  According to their latest release, Tanney's QB rating is is not only #1 in DIII, but it's also higher than any DI QB.  (There are a few QB's in the DII and D 1 AA who are higher.)

True, that might only put Tanney in the Coleman Mafia's top 25-50 DIII quarterbacks, but we MC and MWC fans should be proud.  (Just giving you a hard time, "godfather.")   ;D

Welcome aboard to the new MC posters.  Monmouth nation is growing.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(   
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: 1morefan on October 13, 2005, 10:51:34 am
Did Tanney come to Monmouth right out of high school or was he a transfer?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 13, 2005, 12:04:11 pm
The Tanney family has a long tradition at Monmouth, but Mitch actually went to Wabash for a year (or was it 2 years?) before transferring to Monmouth. 

Scottie's usual salutation here...   >:(   
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: CBS on October 13, 2005, 01:11:08 pm
MC -15
IC -4....depends if LFC shows up they are in this one
SNC -7....this could be interesting....CC will be able to gauge themselves after this one.
GC over KNOX
RC bye

MC is solid......should sweep honors
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: MCGramps97 on October 14, 2005, 09:50:06 am
good to see you around brett, hows life treating you? coaching? things here are well. hope to see you at the Knox game. take er easy.

west
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on October 14, 2005, 12:55:16 pm
Are you reading this?  I am talking to the St. Norbert fans, Ripon fans, and everyone else who likes to post on this page.  All you guys do is read what the Scotties are posting.  Quit reading what we have to say and than mumbling underneath your breath about how overrated or how much Monmouth sucks.  Say something, OHHHH.  thats right, you guys only talk about your team when you are doing well.   :'(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on October 14, 2005, 01:02:45 pm
The Tanney family has a long tradition at Monmouth, but Mitch actually went to Wabash for a year (or was it 2 years?) before transferring to Monmouth. 

Scottie's usual salutation here...   >:(   

Scottie - Pretty sure that Tanney was at Wabash for 2 years before transferring to Monmouth for last season and this one.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: lfcsports on October 14, 2005, 09:29:32 pm
Say something, OHHHH.  thats right, you guys only talk about your team when you are doing well.   :'(

Sorry Papa, it's tough to show your face when you lose to Ripon right after you argue about how you're going to win that game...and then the Scots come in and roll over your offense like it isn't there.

/not much to say; we're playing for third.
Title: Why The Skirts Fish For Smack???
Post by: meachscribe on October 15, 2005, 12:55:08 am
You wear dresses for fun. We're all too puckered up to want to say anything negative.  :o
Don't speak too soon on your glory run. Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on October 15, 2005, 06:01:48 am
Hey Papa90,

I have something to say.  I hope we get you in the first round of the playoffs so we can beat you up like we did when we owned the MWC.  Your conference is weak.  Learn how to recruit.

GO KOHAWKS!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: CBS on October 15, 2005, 01:20:28 pm
Coe & Cornell had their runs..but OWNED.......never lost to either personally. Stay in Iowa you one toothed wonder.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on October 15, 2005, 05:20:41 pm
Hello Scot fans,
Hows it going in the great mid west? Is it cold yet? It's starting to get chilly down here today I turned my A\C off. Papa and Westerhausen its good to see ya around. Hearing you guys talk trash reminds me of my sophmore season. I would like to say that I will see yall at the Knox game but I dont think I'll be able to afford the trip (stupid wedding). For all of  you keeping track at home yes the Mitchell Mustangs were victorious last week with a over time win 28-21 against the 5-1 hudson Cobras. The was channel 47 televised game of the week. Which made the win even bigger. Were fighting for 5-5 this season.
Maverick hows the great metropolis that is Monmouth doing? It still smells I'm sure.
Maybe I'll start charging my students for better grades to raise money to fly up.
Man I've gotta burnin case of PMS.
Rooster out.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 15, 2005, 07:10:49 pm
Looks like everything went as expected this weekend...

SNC rolls 48-28   no need for offense when the D can score like that in a game

MC   41-13   standard win this season

IC    24-8    no offense = no forester win

Knox  57-31  the worst scoring team puts up 57 on a team that won't win another game all season
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on October 16, 2005, 10:01:38 pm
"I have something to say.  I hope we get you in the first round of the playoffs so we can beat you up like we did when we owned the MWC.  Your conference is weak.  Learn how to recruit."

Cornell is a fine and unique college and it was a real loss to the MWC when they moved on.

I assume that by "learn how to recruit" you would encourage others to follow the example set by that school in Cedar Rapids where all players who can get at least 2/3 of the letters in the schools name correct are admitted?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on October 17, 2005, 10:11:53 am
I love it when people like Dolph come on here and talk and try to sound like they have any idea on other schools.  Cornell should never have left the MWC, when they left they left at a time when they were dominant, and yes Coe should have left also and they left for the same reasons as Cornell, because they wanted to be in a more local conference.  Well Cornell should have stayed in the MWC, they are not doing very well in the IAAC and if they were back in the MWC could start competing.  You could say that the IAAC is a "stronger" conference, but I will tell you Dolph that out of the schools you talked about it's, harder to get into Coe then it is to get into most of the MWC schools and Cornell.  So please before you write again please do some homework.

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on October 17, 2005, 10:25:59 am
Dolph, I apologize, that last message that i posted was not supposed to be completely directed at you, yes some was, but also some was to go to the coccoforcoehawks guy.  The whole "Learn how to Recruite" comment is probably one of the dumbest things that i have seen on this site in the last 4 years.  Coocc for a person that has no idea on what else is going on in this conference and the recruiting rules that follows the MWC you sure talk a lot.  I read your posts on the IAAC and some of the things you say are pretty embarrising.  I however I am a Coe College fan, and cheer them on every saturday along with the Ripon Redhawks, but please understand the process before talking. 
     The IAAC has off campus recruiting, and the MWC does not, this right here will hurt any school that can not go and talk with a player after a game.  What school would you choose if it came down to two and one can come and talk with you off campus or you have to travel to go talk to the coach in person. 
     
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 17, 2005, 11:41:09 am
Congrats to the Scots on another impressive win.  Keep up the intensity for what should be a big homecoming crowd.  Up 12 votes in the "others receiving" portion of the Top 25.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on October 17, 2005, 12:17:15 pm
Well it seems like the mighty cohawks have something to say about the MWC, or maybe just me.  I am looking forward to the Mighty Scots playing in the playoffs against who ever.  If that happens to be Coe college, than so be it.  Our conference is not picked to do well, any time.  But I smell the stench in the air that Coe college puts out and it smells like ...well I'll just let everyone put thier own word their. 
6-0 here we go.  The oldies will be at homecoming this weekend, and I am looking forward to Sharon's and to the Bijou for some late night celebrating.  Go Scots, BEAT THE BLUE BOYS.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ICBlue on October 17, 2005, 02:07:34 pm
As a IC fan the Scots should have no problem with the Blueboys.  Last year's  successful QB (Jennings) is now out for the year with a seperated shoulder and a freshman with start.  The O-Line just lost one of it's best players (Juelich) for the rest of the year due to injury.  The defense has also just lost a couple of starters. 

All of this on a team that at the begining of the year, if lucky, could have been 3rd or 4th in the conference.  All of this adds up to the Scots reserves getting a lot of PT in the second half.  Just take it easy on the fellow Illinois conference foe.... I guess there is allways women's golf to root for....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on October 17, 2005, 02:21:53 pm

     The IAAC has off campus recruiting, and the MWC does not, this right here will hurt any school that can not go and talk with a player after a game.  What school would you choose if it came down to two and one can come and talk with you off campus or you have to travel to go talk to the coach in person. 
     

That is my point when I said learn how to recruit, who is keeping you from off campus recruiting, the NCAA or your own Athletic Directors.  Also for someone as informed as you get it right.  It's IIAC
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on October 17, 2005, 02:40:41 pm
As I get older, my memory grows dim.  How did the champions of the mighty IIAC make out against the MWC champions in the 03 playoffs?

Imagine what the score might have been if SNC had been able to recruit off campus ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on October 17, 2005, 02:51:57 pm
As I get older, my memory grows dim.  How did the champions of the mighty IIAC make out against the MWC champions in the 03 playoffs?


Um Uh Dolph,
SNC squeeked out an overtime win against the second place team in the IIAC in the 2003 playoffs, imagine if you got your facts right.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fbfan34 on October 17, 2005, 02:54:49 pm
wow snc scores 4 defensive TD's..impressive..and triner gets 2 in 18 seconds..sounds like a nominee for national POW..but i wouldn't vote for him after his unsportsmanlike after the first TD..selfish player..and lucky it seems
Title: Triner for Natty POW
Post by: meachscribe on October 17, 2005, 04:26:40 pm
34, selfish or excited? Maybe a bit much with the dunk, but can you blame a kid. He didn't wave his rod or anything.
Do you have a vote for National POW?  How can I apply for such a position?

Now that Monmouth or whoever else owns this board, it's pretty lame.  Years of losing have made you fellas boring and unimaginative.

Pissing in the wind with Coe or Cornell is old news.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 17, 2005, 05:06:55 pm
"Now that Monmouth or whoever else owns this board, it's pretty lame.  Years of losing have made you fellas boring and unimaginative."

Quick & imaginative stat of the day:  Since starting out the 2002 season 0-5, the Scots are 29-3. 

"You know the rest!"  >:(
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 17, 2005, 05:22:51 pm
Whats with all of the hostility.  If its not obvious to everyone that Monmouth, St. Norbert and seemingly Carrol (this year and LFC most other years) could compete with any of the so-called top conferences in the midwest, then just let the ignorant dogs lie.  Carrol lost by three to a carthage team that has been ranked in the top 25 all year.  St. norbert though they got waxed has only done what everyone else has done when facing whitewater this year.  And Monmouth, well running of 15 (or is it 16) straight should say something.  People keep talking about (teams of the MWC) our playoff success.  Last year St. Norbert lost to platteville, who turned around and lost to a pretty gal darn team.  St. norbert lost to the eventual national champion the year before that.  you guys act like our playoff teams lose to scrubs.  Usually the MWC representative has to play a beast in the first round and maybe just maybe that may be the reason why we have had a tough time of it.  

Stop Hatin the MWC and start respecting the only team in country not to get into playoffs with a 9-1 record.  MC is not some flash in the pan.  We would be in the top 3 in any conference in the Midwest.  Period!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on October 17, 2005, 05:53:35 pm
34, selfish or excited? Maybe a bit much with the dunk, but can you blame a kid. He didn't wave his rod or anything.
Do you have a vote for National POW?  How can I apply for such a position?

Now that Monmouth or whoever else owns this board, it's pretty lame.  Years of losing have made you fellas boring and unimaginative.

Pissing in the wind with Coe or Cornell is old news.
     Dohr and Breisch returned int's for touchdowns but were able to celebrate without trying to show up a team SNC's beaten for quite a few years in a row.  Kind of like beating a dead mule.  What's the point?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 17, 2005, 08:46:46 pm
Showing up a team - Weak.  He made a play. If you don't want to see it, throw the ball to your own guy, and then there's a non-issue.

Scottie, nice stat.  You guys are having a helluva run.  Perhaps long overdue???  I've still gotta bust your balls though.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on October 18, 2005, 08:18:41 am
     "Winning with class" and "acting like you've been there" probably hold no meaning for you but Purtill thinks they're important virtues.  That's why he did something about it.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 18, 2005, 09:35:28 am
Has he run back a TD before? Has he been there?

I'm sure Anthony Triner apologizes for hurting your feelings.

House, are reading this slop?????  Wake up!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ticker on October 18, 2005, 11:42:42 am
GP - I think that now that House is married, his internet access is controlled by his wife...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on October 18, 2005, 12:34:17 pm
Boys, I am trying to retire from the board in peace, but you make comments about being married and I have to step in and defend myself.

I've been reading, and agree that the Monmouth posters are boring, unimaginative, and all around blah.  "Rah Rah, our team is winning!  Go Team!, Monmouth is #1"
Boys, have all those years of finishing second or worse given you second rate imaginations?

Regarding Triner - Sorry Meacher, I've gotta go against you on this one.  You know how I feel about the guy after last year when he got "excited" against LAX in the first round.  It cost us not only the first round of the playoffs, but the first round against a WIAC team.  I do not know Triner off the field, but some guys have come on here to defend him, so he can't be all that bad, however, he has represented himself as a selfish player on the field.  Anything else Meacher, I've got your back, this one is a little touchy with me.

If anyone asks, I retired of my own free will, I got tired of correcting people, work is crazy ... and perhaps because some polish linebacker, we'll simply refer to as ski, yelled at me.  Polish people in general scare me.

Marriage is so cool.   ::)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 18, 2005, 02:38:18 pm
Warning: One more crack about being boring and the haikus begin!   :D
"Hoping to post like I went to SNC in 2006!"   ???
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 18, 2005, 02:47:02 pm
since when did Wiscansin become the imagination capital of the world?

And Scottie a Haiku would be nice, it is raining out here in southern cali, can you believe that rain in the OC.

MC All-Sports Champs repeat in O6' 
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Title: Southern Ill.
Post by: meachscribe on October 18, 2005, 03:04:26 pm
I've been to Monmouth a few times, and couldn't really say if it's in the Southern or Western part of the state, maybe both. But, it sure isn't Chicago, the only piece of land that matters in that god forsaken state.

All-Sports are for Perverts.  Only one field of play matters son.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 18, 2005, 03:55:20 pm
Mr. Pawlik,

Ill give you that respect if you retract the pervert statement. 

you say only one field of play matters, fine, i think we have been pretty darn good on the one in question.

P.S. i can throw around the "receptacle conversation" (trash talk for you non-MC grads), dont start none wont be none!

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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 18, 2005, 03:56:38 pm
BTW- MC is in the Midwestern part of the state!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 18, 2005, 04:17:10 pm
People keep talking about (teams of the MWC) our playoff success.  Last year St. Norbert lost to platteville, who turned around and lost to a pretty gal darn team.  St. norbert lost to the eventual national champion the year before that.  you guys act like our playoff teams lose to scrubs.  Usually the MWC representative has to play a beast in the first round and maybe just maybe that may be the reason why we have had a tough time of it.   


Wisconsin-La Crosse scored 27 unanswered in the 4th and then went on to play at Linfield.  Not Platteville, they have never even been close to the playoffs.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 18, 2005, 04:21:19 pm
The Knights were the champs
For six long years in a row.
Now it's Monmouth - time!

Go easy on me...I'm multi-tasking.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 18, 2005, 04:33:38 pm
STH-  ok, i was wrong, but you get my jist right? 

good effort scottie....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Fightin Scot Silk on October 18, 2005, 05:13:20 pm
Don't hate the game MC haters....hate the movement thats taken place....

It was a matter of time when the Scots were going to take over. Bell's second year, my senior year '02, we made a pack as seniors to help turn the program around...Judging the last 4 seasons...I think it has been done....

Also Mr. Pawlik

All sports champs is not for perverts......it shows how well you Athectic Program is doing.....

One field only matters yea you right Track...hahahaha

GO SCOTS 2005;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on October 18, 2005, 06:52:08 pm
Hows this for unimaginative? BeeeLOW Me.
Which is only fitting because you and everyone else on this board are below the men in kilts (hows the view?).
We at Monmouth are proud of the all sport championships because were true competitors and could whip yall in everything from football to chinesse checkers.
The only exciting thing in Wisconsin is that stupid truck in the tree that coach Elliot gets so excited about.
You can also BeeeLOW my PMS.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 19, 2005, 09:25:28 am
In case you haven't read "Around the Midwest"...

Other tidbits
Monmouth (7-0, 6-0 in the MWC) continues to dominate the Midwest Conference and remained undefeated last week with a 41-13 victory over Lawrence. Monmouth, despite being 24-3 over the past three years, 37-10 since 2001 and averaging 45.1 points per game, has been receiving only scant attention from the pollsters. ...

Welcome to Monmouth Nation, Clyde Hughes!

By the way, as someone who has been active on this site for the past several years (although admittedly moreso on D3hoops), I wouldn't say that there has been substantially much more posting from the Monmouth contingent.  Rather, most of the other regulars (SNC, Ripon, and Carroll) have just disappeared.  Maybe it is they who possess the lack of imagination.

"Everybody now....!"   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 19, 2005, 10:52:07 am
I'm here.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 19, 2005, 12:51:30 pm
We'll never call you Greg "fair weather" Pawlik.  We might call you some other names, but not fair weather.   :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 19, 2005, 02:20:26 pm
Did somebody say, "learn how to recruit?"

Coe drops out of AFCA poll
The AFCA Top 25 through Week 7:

Rank School (1st votes) Rec. Pts. Prev.
1. Linfield (35) 5-0 994 1
2. Mount Union (5) 6-0 961 2
3. Rowan 6-0 898 3
4. Hardin-Simmons 6-0 877 4
5. St. John’s 7-0 841 5
6. UW-Whitewater 6-0 805 7
7. Occidental 5-0 719 8
8. Trinity (Texas) 5-0 694 9
9. Delaware Valley 6-0 659 10
10. Mary Hardin-Baylor 4-1 524 13
11. Hobart 6-0 454 14
12. North Central 6-0 393 21
13. St. John Fisher 6-1 373 16
14. Bridgewater (Va.) 4-1 339 17
15. Johns Hopkins 6-0 321 18
16. Concordia-Moorhead 5-1 319 11
17. Washington & Jefferson 6-1 308 19
18. Monmouth 7-0 303 20
19. Ithaca 5-1 300 6
20. Thiel 6-0 271 23
21. Wabash 6-0 267 24
22. UW-La Crosse 3-2 244 12
23. Wheaton 5-1 203 22
24. Augustana 5-1 156 —
25. Wesley 7-0 142 —

Dropped out: No. 15 Coe, No. 25 Carthage

Others receiving votes: Union 112; Ferrum 90; St. Olaf 84; Coe 77; Salisbury 67; Central 52; Trinity (Conn.) 48; Alma 20; UW-Oshkosh 19; John Carroll 15; Christopher Newport 12; Whitworth 10; McDaniel 9; Wartburg 5; Carthage 5; Capital 4; Washington & Lee 3; RPI 2; St. Norbert 1.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 19, 2005, 02:21:01 pm
How very honest of you.

I don't mean to be coy, but someone said earlier you Skirts could compete in the top 3 of any conference in the area (I'm sure that's a loose comparison to what was really written). Either way, I'm not buying that. You've had a good year thus far, but I can't see you taking down a No. 2 in the playoffs in the first round, which is what you'll have to do to convince a lot of onlookers otherwise.

Insert SNC comment losing however many before winning one against the aforementioned crap IIAC team. Whatever. I beat you to it.

Someone enlighten me. If, if, if you win out, whodoya got?  Figure UWW or SJU at No. 1 with a bye, or is this different (with byes that is). Then you're either at SJU or UWW (probably UWW with the distance thing.)

A lot of dancing to go, but don't be unrealistic with who you are.  Ask LFC how good teams around the region really are. They got smoked a few years back with Baby Urlacher in the middle.

What's the saying - Don't count your chickens ...

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: lfcsports on October 19, 2005, 03:06:03 pm
Wartburg on 2002 was nasty. And by nasty, I mean faster, stronger, more disciplined than any MWC team we played in '02. And after thrashing us by six TDs, they went to Oregon and got their tails handed to 'em by Linfield.

Pawlik's right.

We as a conference are ranked #21 for a reason - we're not as good as most of the others.

That said, however, after starting against Monmouth and St. Norbert in '04 I will say that Monmouth's front seven (six of which are returners) was the best in the conference. The numbers might not support that, but as a team LFC couldn't do a thing to them last year and the same was true this year. Combine that with a monster year from Tanney, and the Scots could have success.

Just don't get ahead of yourselves, and make sure you're thinking in terms of playoff success. LFC was killed by focusing too much energy on the Norbert game - when that was over, it felt like our season was too.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 19, 2005, 03:13:15 pm
Nice try, Greg...  Monmouth's remaining opponents have a combined MWC record of 8-8.  While I would say that the Scots are a favorite to be 10-0 after the Knox game, anything could happen.  So until things are a little more certain, you won't read anything from THIS fan about the Scots in the playoffs until it's in the bag. 

With that said, I predict that the MWC champ will probably not get a great draw in the playoff bracket.  A trip to Whitewater or St. John's would not surprise me in the least.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 19, 2005, 05:07:53 pm
I talk about the playoffs because that is how we will get our respect.  you look forward to it because an undefeated conference schedule means nothing if you get blown out in the first round.  You relish the hatred from other conferences because you know that when the time is right everyone will realize that your school, your team, your conference is legit.

No one from "Scots Nation" is claiming that MC is the best team in the country, all we ask for is respect.  Whether our conference is ranked 21st or not, we have a talented team. 

Truthfully a little more speed on defense and maybe one more playmaker on offense is what sets us apart from being on the same level of the Linfields and Mount Unions.  But to say that we cant be mentioned in the same breath with confernces and/or schools in our own backyard, who recruit the same kids we do, do not have the quality of training facilities we do, and
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on October 19, 2005, 06:29:51 pm
Scottie,
Good showing in the d3footbal.com poll.  Those pollsters must realize you haven't played anyone decent this year.  Start scheduling decent non-conference opponents.  At least SNC had the intestinal fortitude to take on the WIAC's best, even though they got creamed.  You have one other decent team in your conference and they got blown out by the WIAC's best, no wonder your conference gets no respect.  Your non-conference win came against a team that lost to a team (Lakeland) that shouldn't have been on the same field as UWW (73-12).  What do you think you are going to do against UWW in the playoffs, your most likely opponent.  Oh, and the AFCA poll has been schizophrenic all year.  So schedule a MIAC, WIAC, or IIAC team.  The IBC is worse then say, oh I don't know, the MWC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on October 19, 2005, 10:40:04 pm
Holy crap this board has been rolling over faster during the last few days and everyone seems to be as pissed off as ever! :D  I'm not even going to try to respond to anything at this point--it would just take way too long for now.

Actually I will reply to a couple things I guess. 
1) Scottie - nice haiku, can't wait to read more of those once basketball season swings into high-gear! 
2) Florida Scot - you said you were sure Monmouth still smells...well you're right, it still smells like a winner baby! :)

Other than that, I'll try to keep up with the board a little better in the future from now on so I don't fall behind by 3 days.  And if I don't post anything on here between now and Saturday, I'm looking forward to seeing as many of you Fighting Scot alumni as possible at homecoming this weekend.  PMS!!![/color]
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 20, 2005, 01:09:39 am
We as a conference are ranked #21 for a reason - we're not as good as most of the others.

Just don't get ahead of yourselves, and make sure you're thinking in terms of playoff success. LFC was killed by focusing too much energy on the Norbert game - when that was over, it felt like our season was too.


As a conference I don't think that there are any real programs besides SNC, and Monmouth has been building one the last few years as well.  If you look at SNC and MC, they have been bringing in quality kids and have always had numbers.  For the most part teams usually only bring in what they need and aren't deep at any position.  IC and Carroll are building but they aren't there yet.  Hopefully Lawrence will begin to turn it around.  Ripon has been off but I think they are there.  The others aren't even close. 

Monmouth and SNC are good teams but when they play average high school teams week in and week out in conference they don't get any better.  The only way to get any respect is to get better as a whole conference.  It will only make everyone else more competitive.

lfcsports,
LFC was fortunate to have players fall in their lap and that turned into a championship.  They need to find themselves and settle on a coach.  Is this year just a tryout for the coaching staff or what AD.  And it was evident that LFC thought their season was over after SNC in '02 because they didn't bother to show up in the playoffs. 

Comments??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 20, 2005, 09:25:58 am
cocopuff:  We begin next season with Wartburg.  Satisfied?

"Maverick finishes out the season strong in 2005!"  ;D  
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on October 20, 2005, 10:02:16 am
YES!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: qbdriver on October 20, 2005, 10:51:46 am
RE:  Did somebody say, "learn how to recruit?"

Scottie,

You must be living in a shell.  Hope you will open your eyes when you play UWW.  Get real, Coe got out of the MAC because they wanted some respect.   Now they are contenders in the IIAC every year.  And Wartburg will drill you next season.  They have 120 players on their squad each year and have field turf and a great facility.  They are able to get the best recruits in the league and compete with Coe to get them.  I hear Coe is getting field turf on their game field and practice field along with lights.  The word is they plan on having the 4A schools in CR play one game their each week and then host play-off games.  That may move them in front of the Knights for recruiting purposes. 

Also, your administrators are also fooling themselves if they think they are so astute when it comes to academics.   It’s just a way in which they can justify keeping the athletic departments down and not having to give them money.  And letting their development departments continue their weak efforts in the fund raising efforts.  Don’t tell me that Central, Coe, Wartburg, St Johns and Augustana are just as good or better than the MAC schools when it comes to academics.  We’ll maybe not Grinnell….but everyone else.  But who wants to be like them.

I guess it wouldn’t be so bad if you weren’t running your month.  I’m from that part of the country and thought as you did before I moved away.  Don’t get brain washed, or you’ll be eating a lot of crow in the future.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on October 20, 2005, 11:05:19 am
Maverick hit it right on the head.  Everyone is getting on each others nerves. 

scottie....I liked the cocopuff.....there's the original creative MC Scots.

Any predictions this week fellas, other than MC.  I realize the scots are having a great season, but does anyone else want to talk about their own teams????

Nubs is rolling into Ripon Saturday.  LET'S GO HAWKS!!!  I would love to be there, but Early got him some tickets to the Badger homecoming.....

Holla
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 20, 2005, 01:28:55 pm
chill pill- everyone outside of ScotsNation take one now.  A team asks for respect after going 20 something and three over three years and the world says no.  MC is a very good team, not the best in the land (just yet), but a very good team.  if you think otherwise this is the place to say it, but if you havent seen MC play and want to compare us to the sub .500 teams of old, then you are not making an informed assumption. 

MC in 05 whether you like it or not!

have fun at homecoming, wish i could be there...

Hoping for a free weekend to see MC's first playoff game in a very long time...
Title: Skirts Nation
Post by: meachscribe on October 20, 2005, 02:26:18 pm
How many members are in the aformentioned Skirts Nation?  Is there also a Skirts Radio Network on AM 710, The home of mediocrity turned OK.

The following reminds me of what it would be like to be on a Monmouth roady (Borrowed from Czabe.com)

"Ever tried to take a leak peacefully on the ultra-cramped hot and smelly bathroom on the back of a tour bus? That’s nothin’! Try getting in there with 4 other guys. Naked. And then have the door locked. For a LONG time.

"The Ontario Hockey League has suspended Windsor Spitfires Coach and GM Moe Mantha (perhaps the greatest name for a journeyman NHL player EVER!) for 40 games as coach, and even longer as GM for a hazing incident with his players that involved the so-called and much dreaded “hot box” maneuver on rookies…. This from TSN.ca….

"The incident involved players ''being told to strip and stand in the washroom at the back of the bus by other players,'' the OHL said in a release. Branch said five players were involved, but only four were crammed into the washroom.

"He would not say if the players were rookies in order to protect their identities. However, jamming first-year players into the tiny washroom at the back of a bus, known as a hot box, has a long history among junior teams.

"REACT: The only thing worse, would be to make these guys do the “elephant walk” down the aisle to then get the “hot box” treatment. Ugh."

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 20, 2005, 02:38:13 pm
qbdriver,

I'm from the part of the country that proofreads posts...   :D  We belong to the MWC, not the MAC.  And those who consider themselves overly vociferous are accused of running their mouths, not their months.    

You're argument about our development staff not raising money for athletics is hilarious.  I've been to Coe.  Would you seriously want to compare your facilities with Monmouth's?  Five years ago, absolutely.  Today, no.

And, my rough count of the Scots' roster listed 126 players.  Sorry you didn't check that either.   ???  Have a nice day.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 20, 2005, 02:42:15 pm
Greg, you snuck that last one in while I was typing.  That scenario sounds more like the antics of another western Illinois college to me....  Since they're not on here to defend themselves, I'll let you figure out who I'm talking about.

I gotta go.  Somebody's knoxing, I mean knocking at my door. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 20, 2005, 03:34:40 pm
The Early Line:


Lawrence  -7     Grinnell has given up on the season LU has to win

Beloit    -9.5     Knox can't possibly score that many again, BC looking for win #2

Carroll   -14    It's a pattern 2 wins and then a loss, they're due for a win, lfc offense is non existant

Monmouth  -23  The offense and defense don't overlook the blueboys

St. Norbert  -13.5  The machine is running smoothly after a slow start
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 20, 2005, 03:36:11 pm
Greg

What team do you support again?

MC in 05' whether you like it or not!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 20, 2005, 03:48:26 pm
The other team
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on October 20, 2005, 07:21:20 pm
If Tanney keeps things up, I'm sure most posters would agree that he'd be the obvious Offensive Player of the Year choice.

What's going on with the other side of the ball in terms of POY candidates? The Scots have a pretty special player in Zigler, their linebacker (#48).

Just askin' -- who else out there has a Defensive POY contender?

Long-time basketball poster, first-time football poster. Never could figure out how to use one of those faces, so here's a first: 8)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on October 20, 2005, 07:56:30 pm
Do they still have that stale salty popcorn at Strong Stadium?? They play Ripon on my birthday this year and I'm considering a trip down. But without the popcorn I remember, it would not be a Beloit game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on October 20, 2005, 09:26:26 pm
Hey, posts on the board in back-to-back days for me--now I'm keeping up!  Just a few things again tonight...

Early - Glad to see that someone else on here agrees with me that everyone seems to be getting on everyone else's nerves.  Maybe someday we'll all just relax a little bit.

Old Fighting Scot - Assuming the Scots get into the playoffs, you better get a free weekend to see the first round playoff game.  In fact, all the alumni who can manage a free weekend should find a way to get one.  And if I'm not mistaken, that would be MC's first ever national playoff game...had a few conference championship games in the past, but never one in the national playoffs.

Schwan Man - It's great to see you found your way over to the football boards from the basketball boards!  So here's a smiley to greet you: :P
Title: Re: Around the Nation
Post by: scottie on October 21, 2005, 09:30:22 am
Keith McMillan's words, not mine.  (But I like the way this guy thinks...)

MIDWEST CONFERENCE (MWC)
Suspense rating: 1
Contender: Monmouth
Probable playoff spots: One in Pool A
Key results in the books: Monmouth 28, St. Norbert 20, Sept. 17
Key games approaching: None
ATN’s analysis: Barring an unforeseen and stunning stumble, pencil the Scots in for the postseason. The win at St. Norbert was huge, and the only low-loss teams left after that, Ripon and Carroll, each have two conference defeats with one of the big two still on the schedule. The Green Knights, however, probably lost any chance at a Pool C bid with the 45-7 loss to UW-Whitewater in the opener.
ATN’s predicted champion: Monmouth. Even &&Bridgewater's&& ODAC title isn't wrapped this well.

Good luck to the Scots vs. IC.  Hoping for a Homecoming win!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 21, 2005, 12:19:06 pm
SchwannMan- glad you could join us.

Maverick- pencil me in....

Scottie- keep up the good work

Everyone Else in ScotsNation-  MC Football is da shiznit!!!

MC Football in 05,whether you like it or not!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on October 21, 2005, 02:26:42 pm
I just read the post from Scottie that said MC has 126 players on their roster.According to this sites Qfacts page the enrollment at MC is 1155.I'm no math major but that would mean over 20% of all the men that go to MC play football.Is this the norm at most D3 schools?I think LFC has 73 on the roster and an enrollment of 1300,thats a little over 10% playing football.Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 21, 2005, 03:15:51 pm
I'm not sure if there is any direct correlation between size of roster and quality of team (ie. place in the standings).  But I believe I heard that SNC has a pretty large roster as well.  Beloit, on the other hand, has been spoken (written) of as having an usually small roster. 

Monmouth does include an abbreviated JV schedule, so that the third and fourth string (or fifth) can get on the field. 

Frankly, I was surprised the roster had that many players.  It probably has something to do with a.) strong, consistent recruiting, b.) a high retention rate among student-athletes, and c.) a desireable program for many local athletes, ie. some student-athletes may know that they aren't going to get much PT, but want to be part of a postive program. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on October 21, 2005, 03:26:26 pm
Scottie you seem to know the program pretty well.How high of a retention rate do they have? LFC has 29 FR,21 SO but drops down to 12 JR and 11 SR. and thats after 3 good yrs. Did you play and if so how big was your team?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 21, 2005, 03:59:00 pm
LFCdad - I'm sorry to admit that I'm only an enthusiastic fan, not a former football player.  I have however competed for MC athletically (briefly) and coached there as well.  Today, I'm a "distance-fan" who relies on combining box scores, SID releases and institutional memory (more than ten year's worth) for my remarkably insightful remarks.   ;)

I have not broken down the MC roster year by year in order to scientifically prove my retention theory.  But I would say that the retention trends of the football team and the overall enrollment of the college are commensurate.  (That means "equal" for any IIAC fans who might be reading this...)  Through facility planning and fundraising to benefit the academic, residential and athletic qualities of the campus, Monmouth's enrollment has benefitted - both in terms of attracting new students and retaining the students that they already have.  It would not surprise me if freshman-to-sophmore retention figures are in the upper 80 percentile or even in the low 90 percentile.  And, generally, once a student has spent two years at an institution it is much less likely that they will leave.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 21, 2005, 04:22:37 pm

As a conference I don't think that there are any real programs besides SNC, and Monmouth has been building one the last few years as well.  If you look at SNC and MC, they have been bringing in quality kids and have always had numbers.  For the most part teams usually bring in what they need and aren't deep at any position.  IC and Carroll are building but they aren't there yet.  Hopefully Lawrence will begin to turn it around with their new staff.  Ripon has been off but I think they are there.  The others aren't even close.

Monmouth and SNC are good teams but when they play average high school teams week in and week out in conference they don't get any better.  The only way to get any respect is to get better as a whole conference.  It will only make everyone else more competitive. 

lfcsports,
LFC was fortunate to have players fall in their lap and that turned into a championship.  They need to find themselves and settle on a coach.  For your AD, is this year just a tryout for the coaching staff or what?  And it was evident that LFC thought their season was over after SNC in '02 because they didn't bother to show up in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 21, 2005, 04:55:54 pm
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/coll/oct05/364706.asp

Since the Red Ducks are asleep at the wheel, I'll help them out.  I may be an ass, but thank you to this guy.

With that being said, SNC will hang a 45-10 type game on the Ducks this weekend. 

For those who want to be entertained, take a look at the photo of Coach Ernst on the Ripon Web site.  Holly bucktooth!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on October 21, 2005, 05:26:25 pm
Hey Scout you seem a little bitter about LFC winning the championship.It dosn"t say much for the rest of the conference if like you say one baby U can fall into the lap of a school and turn that team into a champ. I'm not sure who you are pulling for but  you said in your last post that the only real program was SNC with MC building one the last few years.Then you say IC ,Carroll,Ripon And hopefully LC are all turning it around. If all those teams are on the up-swing like you say then you don't have to worry about the MWC getting any respect do you?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on October 21, 2005, 05:30:27 pm
"Monmouth and SNC are good teams but when they play average high school teams week in and week out in conference they don't get any better.  The only way to get any respect is to get better as a whole conference.  It will only make everyone else more competitive."

There is another way for teams like Monmouth and SNC to gain respect.  Apply for admission in a conference in which the majority of schools place the same emphasis on football as you do.

The simple fact is that schools like Grinnell, Lawrence and Beloit will never field teams of 90+ players.  These schools are already at full enrollment and their philosophy is different (Before you get mad, I am not saying it is better or worse, simply different.)  In the near future it would not surprise me to see a major realignment of the D3 conferences in the Mid West with football being a major force in who ends up where.
Title: Hey Roop
Post by: Dolph Stanley on October 21, 2005, 05:32:36 pm
The Beloit - Ripon game promises to be a fairly major event as it is DeGeorge's last home game.  Come on down, I'll leave a bag of popcorn under the stands from this weeks game so it gets good and stale.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on October 21, 2005, 06:39:05 pm
Dolph,

It has been pretty cool lately so I don't think leaving the popcorn outside would cause it to go stale fast enough. Get a bag of Wal-Mart popcorn and set it next to a vaporizer for a few days. That should closely approximate what I remember.

Plumbing so bad that water seeped from almost every interior wall in the stadium, which created the most unique popcorn known to man. And to think they remodeled the place. Go figger......



Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coolaw56 on October 21, 2005, 10:44:31 pm
LFCdad:  We were lucky enough to have found a great school like LFC and have our son play on the 2002 Championship team.  Or should I say "LFC was fortunate to have players fall in their lap and that turned into a championship."  Although we are not from Illinois and had never heard of Lake Forest College, it was actually what we saw when we went on a tour that impressed us and helped our son decide LFC was a great fit for him.  As for that championship, no song has more meaning for me than "Magic Carpet Ride."  Oh what a smile and what  memories that song brings.  As for this year, it's nice to see a changing of the guards like in 2002 (the first time in 19 years for LFC), but I'm anxious, as is everyone, to see what happens the first round of playoffs.  For the boys at LFC, keep your heads up, and good luck against Carroll tomorrow.  They always play you tough. 

Title: Re: Scoreboard Update
Post by: scottie on October 22, 2005, 04:20:13 pm
I can't attend the game but called for an update.

Just starting the second half - Monmouth 35, IC 0

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ccfan69 on October 22, 2005, 05:22:18 pm
Carroll 40 LFC 13 Final.....Nice Job Pioneers.  Defense really helped out in this game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ICBlue on October 23, 2005, 12:12:18 pm
Went to the IC/St. Norbert's  game, as an IC fan, hopefullI can still give an objective response.

1. Monmouth is better than anyone in the conference... period.  Better than St. Norbert's, better than Carroll, etc. 

2. Monmouth's main strenght that no one talks about EXECUTION.  They did a great scouting job, develop a game plan and then did it!

3. QB, RB, size of lineman no one is better in the conference.

4. Where were the D2 and D1AA schools, that some of these players on Monmouth could be playing for when it came time to recruit?

My Blueboys had heart, gave it there all but, when you play an better team (Senoir Day and Homecoming on the same day too!?!) ... this is what happens.  Hopefullly when the four key starters for the Blueboys come back next year (QB,OL,DB,DL) come back next year.. it will be a better game.

Hats off  to the Scots and everybody in the conference should be now routing for the Scots to go two or tree deep in the play offs.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on October 23, 2005, 06:16:31 pm
IC,

Whose to say that there weren't any 1AA or D2 schools interested in some of the Monmouth players. 1AA and D2s don't have many scholarships available so "4 year rides" aren't that common. I'm just guessing but if offers were made it probably involved walking on for a few years. Then maybe getting a scholarship in the junior or senior season.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on October 23, 2005, 11:13:44 pm
Well once again the Scots come off a good week and they only gain 3 little votes.  And yet Coe can lose to Wartburg who has yet to be recognized.  Man people really do have a negative opinion of our conference.  Our conference I think is better than the credit we get for it.  I just think Monmouth has put together a quality team and it is a giant in comparison to the rest of the conference.  Well as far as respect goes that is cool don't give any to the Scots so that they can sneek up behind someone in the playoffs and suprise the whole D3football.com world.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on October 24, 2005, 06:46:30 am
Jester,

  Well as far as respect goes that is cool don't give any to the Scots so that they can sneek up behind someone in the playoffs and suprise the whole D3football.com world.


Ain't gonna happen.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Fightin Scot Silk on October 24, 2005, 11:49:02 am
Remains to be seen cooccobird
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on October 24, 2005, 12:17:12 pm
Congrads on the Scots on another great win.  The defense for Monmouth is the best i've seen since the 2001 Monmouth team.  They are all over the QB and the linbacking core are fast and strong.  Justin Zigler is a heck of a player and very well could be the Defensive Player of the Year.

This week is tough, the Pioneers of Carroll are starting a program and win over the Scots would prove that to the rest of the conference.  If the Scots do not prepare and execute, they will lose to Carroll.  Do i see that happening?  I hope not.  I hate Carroll only because in 2000.  We lost 42-7, it was snowing, and our bus broke down and we hung out in Waukesh, WI till 4 in the morning.  GO get em Scots.  The folks will be at the game.  Beat the Pioneers!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 24, 2005, 12:25:43 pm
Papa, i remember that game, it was terrible all aspects of it, i think my toes are still a bit frostbitten.

Great job Scots, keep it up, leave no doubt!  If you dominate, it will come (the accolades and recognition and respect)!!

MC football in 05 whether you like it or not!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on October 24, 2005, 03:36:24 pm
"I hate Carroll only because in 2000.  We lost 42-7, it was snowing, and our bus broke down and we hung out in Waukesh, WI till 4 in the morning.  GO get em Scots"

Wow,  must have been scary for you Monmouth folks being in the big city so late at night  :D

Sorry, said in fun but it was just too good to resist.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on October 24, 2005, 10:43:20 pm
Wow, what a great weekend!  It was good to see all you Scots alumni back for homecoming.  Hope to get another turnout like that in a couple weeks for the Turkey Bowl (even though it's in Galesburg this year).

ICBlue - Thanks for showing MC some love in your last post.  It's always nice to see someone outside of the Scots Nation saying some kind words.

Papa, Old Fighting Scot - Yeah that was a terrible game at Carroll back in the 2000 season.  It was no fun getting drilled in the cold that day by the Pioneers and the broken down bus made it even worse.

Dolph - It's all good.  Not so much scary being there that late, more on the boring side just hanging out in Carroll's fieldhouse for so long that evening.  ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on October 24, 2005, 10:58:07 pm
Here you go Monmouth fans.

2005 All-Fantasy Third Team

Pos Player School Yr Ht Wt | Wk1 Wk2 Wk3 Wk4 Wk5 Wk6 Wk7 Wk8 Avg | 2005 Statistics
QB Mitch Tanney Monmouth Sr 6-3 215 | 27 29 28 34 17 36 13 31 26.88 | 1885 PASS YDs, 181 RUSH YDs, 30 TDs, 3 INTs
RB Tyler Sherden Luther Jr 6-2 205 | 23 22 33 22 6 --- --- --- 21.20 | 837 RUSH/REC YDs, 11 TDs
RB Don Thibodeau Maine Maritime Sr 6-1 210 | --- 27 26 10 39 15 2 22 20.14 | 1315 RUSH/REC YDs, 12 TDs
WR Aaron Krepps Wash. & Jeff. Sr 6-0 205 | 31 15 6 18 15 28 10 9 16.50 | 847 RUSH/REC YDs, 14 TDs
WR Casey Allen Linfield Sr 6-3 225 | --- 23 16 --- 8 21 13 16 16.17 | 565 RUSH/REC YDs, 12 TDs
TE Ben Dull Hampden-Sydney Sr 6-2 230 | 11 22 --- 6 1 14 0 1 7.86 | 313 RUSH/REC YDs, 7 TDs


Throwing the dog a bone
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 24, 2005, 11:12:17 pm
With 2 or 3 weeks left in the season, depending on which team you cheer for, this is what I see happening.

Monmouth will win out and move on to the playoffs.  They have the offensive and defensive players of the year in conf.  Tanney is a lock and they should give it to Zigler.  Coach Bell could also repeat as coach of the year. 

St. Norbert will win out, and I don't know, but it would have been interesting if they would have played Monmouth later in the season.  They haven' played a close game since MC, but thats the way it goes.  No playoffs

Ripon should end up 7-3 but that is yet to be seen.  But with BC and Knox both on the road, and only Macalester at home they could trip up.

Carroll will not shock MC in Monmouth.  They end up 6-4 and are getting better. 

Lake Forest is in danger of having a losing season at 4-6 unless they somehow find a way to win in Appleton.  There is no possible way for them to hold SNC under 3 scores which is what they have to do in order to win, especially without the starting middle backer.  Wheels are off

IC, Beloit, Knox, and Lawrence are all middle of the road. 

Grinnell has already given up will not show up to play any more games this season.  Thank god that the worst team in D3 is on your schedule or else 0-10. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 25, 2005, 10:41:59 am
Congrats to the Scots for another impressive win.  Sorry I could not see it in person, but I will be at the Knox game.  Good luck vs. Carroll!

Maverick and Silk:  Good to see you at the Bijou.  My ears have stopped ringing and I'm starting to get my voice back.  :D

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"  >:(
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 25, 2005, 02:44:46 pm
Carrol will BEAT MC this weekend!!!

If I was a gambling man, I'd say 31-30.  A tight one.

Anyone from Carroll agree, other than LU's own Schultz?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ccfan69 on October 25, 2005, 03:19:43 pm
Carroll will Win this weekend.  They have started to get that home field advantage and have the thought of not losing at home.  Now if they could just use that same thinking on the road they would have been in good shape this year.  GO Pioneers. 

This would be a big win for me since half of my family is from Monmouth!!!!!!!

Look for Fletcher to have a big game as it is his last one at Home
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on October 25, 2005, 03:22:36 pm
  Yes, that would be a great thing to have happen, but I am kind of hoping to see MC go through with the big 0 this season.  They have been working hard in the past years, and deserve this season.  Any other team but Norberts, has my vote to be #1 in the conference.  
  Early, what are you up to on Nov. 5th?  I will be heading to good ole shingles, to watch the game, my first one of the season, do you think you can make it?
  And to Cocco, since he is reading this site also, good luck this weekend against Cornell.  I remember when i was really young, the Cornell VS.  Coe game was always a huge game.  Now with Cornell not being as touch as they used to be I dont think its as big of a deal.  I will however be at the game and cheering on Coe, first Coe Vs. Cornell game that I have been to since 1993.  
  Good Luck to all this weekend!!  
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on October 25, 2005, 04:58:30 pm
Hawk, I'm afraid I will not be able to make the Nov. 5th game.  I think that is against Macalester College.  I really don't even want to see that game.  That really is kinda like playing against a high school team.  Granted Macalester has very hard educational requirements, but we played them 2 years ago, and they were playing iron man football. 

When was the last time RC has beaten Norbs?  Has it really been like 6 years?  And with 2 weeks to prepare for THe Nights to roll in and get creamed. ???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 25, 2005, 05:12:56 pm
Do I hear a fire Ernst cry???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on October 26, 2005, 08:48:11 am
No that was NOT a fire Ernst cry.  I wouldn't do that.  I was literally just wondering when the last time we Red Hawks beat St. Norbert.  And that I was saying that I was hoping the hawks would have been more prepared for what the Nights were gonna do having 2 weeks to prepare.

Stop reading in between my lines Greg!!!  >:(
(sarcasm)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 26, 2005, 11:28:40 am
SNC owns a 16-9 lead in the series, which dates to 1979. The Green Knights have won the last six games in the series, all under coach Jim Purtill, by an average score of 43-19. Before that, Ripon had won the previous four meetings by a total of 14 points.

Music to my ears
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LUtickles on October 26, 2005, 11:41:15 am
Help us Carroll College, you're our only hope!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: desertcat1 on October 26, 2005, 11:44:56 am
Boys it's time to show your support for D 3 football..

Vote Brett Elloitt   FROM D 3 Football   for the Heisman..  You can vote just like Hewy Long said "vote and vote offen"  once each week..
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 26, 2005, 12:09:18 pm
I'll stick with Vince Young. But I'm sure Elliot appreciates the plug.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 26, 2005, 12:30:46 pm
CC has a slim chance b/c the weather will be sh*tty (may hinder the passing attack), they will be pumped (can play the spoiler), and officials in wisconsin always cheat! (j/k) (well kinda kidding). but....

MC will be prepared for the weather (it aint like our boys are from the south... well most of them arent) and we'll prolly just pound the turf with the running game.  MC knows that there are greater things at stake than just beating up on CC again (conference title, playoffs....).  And it is hard for officials to make too much of an impact in a game that should be lopsided anyway....

Final Score MC 35 CC 12

MC football in 05 whether you like it or not!!

as for the heisman.....  This is the only time i will ever vote for a Bush!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: MCGramps97 on October 26, 2005, 02:00:35 pm
2000 Carrol Game.
that was one of the worst experiences of my life. so freaking cold. the Rosster though got his first taste of snow. one of the funniest things i've ever seen. god love the rooster, running around with his tounge hanging out trying to catch snowflakes.
good luck to Bell and the boys, see you guys in a couple of weeks at the great Knuk Fox game. When are we gonna break into the top 25 on D III, I've seen us as high as 18 in the AFCA?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: MCGramps97 on October 26, 2005, 02:01:55 pm
sorry about the typo, rOOster not Rosster. i teach history for gosh sakes not spelling.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: desertcat1 on October 26, 2005, 04:00:25 pm
Thank you all for the D3 support  Brett Elliot just moved into #10 place out of 41 nominees,,  Keep up the good work.. go  D3
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on October 26, 2005, 06:04:16 pm
Attn: MWC Coaches

Anyone needing a fullback next season should contact Hudson High School regarding John Dolan. Despite his teams loss it was a tremendous individual performance here against D.C. Everest last night. I didn't check the stats but it seemed like he ran for 300 yards. I'll bet he had 150 though.

At 6'1" and 200 lbs he's probably a bit small to be a D1 player, but could be a stand out at the D3 level. He also plays linebacker.

Disclaimer: No I'm not related to, nor do I even know him. I'm just impressed.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 26, 2005, 08:05:30 pm
UW-LAX at No. 24 at 3-3 in your latest d3 poll.  What a joke.

A loss is a loss, so I thought.  Who's stuffing the ballots? 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on October 26, 2005, 10:41:18 pm
Scottie - Good to hear that you've recovered from the Bijou on Saturday night.  I've perfected that "Bijou recovery skill" into a process that usually takes just one day!  :D

MCGramps97 - I think Rooster getting his first taste of snow during that game is about the only good memory from that weekend at Carroll in 2000.

Nice story in the Around the Midwest column about one of MC's captains...congrats Dihle!

Good luck this weekend Scots!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Wildcat'64 on October 26, 2005, 10:52:53 pm
Thank You Midwest Conference Voters:
For those of you who cast your vote today for Elliot for the Heisman---we say thank you.  Coast to Coast the D3 voters showed up today in impressive numbers and cast over 800 votes for Elliot.  Great showing for D3 football.  The 800+
votes put Elliot in #7 out of 41 spots on the list.  Keep those votes coming on behalf of D3 football --- it will help everyone if D3 gets some recognition it so deserves.

If you haven't yet voted, you may vote for Elliot at the following website www.votefor heisman.com

Thanks again for your support of D3 football!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on October 26, 2005, 11:01:59 pm
Just cast my vote for Elliot.

In my opinion, he is only the second best story at Linfield this year.  The fact that a football program at any level of college ball is about to complete their 50th straight season with a winning record defies belief.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 27, 2005, 03:37:59 pm
Do the top two teams (in each region)get first round bye's? If that is the case does that mean that MC (as of right now) will get Coe in the first round?  OMG, could that be any more huge than MC getting to play an IIAC.  This could have huge ramifications.  Recruiting, Repect, Conference Rankings....

I would definitely have to be at that one in person!!!!!

MC Football in 05, whether you like it or not!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 27, 2005, 03:49:17 pm
Early Lines:


Only game that matters

MC @ CC    MC  -14


What's left

GC @ SNC   SNC -38

RC @ BC      RC  -8

KC @ IC       IC  -13

LFC @ LU     LU  -4


Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 27, 2005, 04:44:01 pm
According to the current regional rankings...

MC would be in line to play either #3 St. Johns or #4 Occidental. 

Since MC would be the road team in either case, i would definitely prefer Oxy.  A 1.5 hr. drive (30 bucks for gas) or a 3 hr. flight (150 bucks for a plane ticket).  Plus the weather would be better for the MC offensive attack out here in Southern Cali vs. the would be torrential winter of Minny.

this is very interesting....

MC Football in 05, whether you like it or not!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ccpio46 on October 27, 2005, 10:09:26 pm
People shouldn't chalk 1 up in the W column for monmouth until the games over.  The pios (as opposed to the grinnell neers) have a solid D, and can run and pass the ball, if Carroll gets all three teams going they are a tough team to beat.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 28, 2005, 09:42:51 am
I don't think the recent posts have been chalking up a MC win over Carroll, just predicting playoff possibilities.  At this point, it seems as if Monmouth has essentially clinched a playoff birth.  If Monmouth lost at Carroll, they still hold the tie-breker with SNC.  And if Monmouth DID lose to Carroll, I would not want to be wearing a purple & gold uniform the following Saturday.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 28, 2005, 11:53:20 am
UW-LAX at No. 24 at 3-3 in your latest d3 poll.  What a joke.

A loss is a loss, so I thought.  Who's stuffing the ballots? 

Definitely not true. A loss to Division I-AA South Dakota, for example, is not a loss at all, frankly, for the voters' purposes.

It's hard to drop from #11 all the way out of the poll, especially since neither loss is a bad loss. One of the losses is to the #2 team in the country.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 28, 2005, 11:55:51 am
CCPIO,

Ok, "if" CC is able to have all aspects of their team clicking on saturday they "could" give MC "some" problems... Ill give you that.

But.....

When MC comes out firing and hitting on all cylinders they will weather any early initial hyped up storm from CC and then MC will win by at least three touchdowns.  CC has shown some signs of being a decent opponent, and it may take the Scotties a little bit of time to warm up.  But when that snowball gets rolling it will be like every other game this year.  

MC 35 CC 13

MC Football in 05, whether you like it or not!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ballhawk42 on October 28, 2005, 12:36:28 pm
Any scottish alums gonna be at carroll?  there will be a drunken hawk in the crowd... go scots!!!FINISH
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 28, 2005, 01:21:07 pm
Quote
When MC comes out firing and hitting on all cylinders they will weather any early initial hyped up storm from CC and then MC will win by at least three touchdowns.  CC has shown some signs of being a decent opponent, and it may take the Scotties a little bit of time to warm up.  But when that snowball gets rolling it will be like every other game this year.


THIS reminds me of HIGH school ball.  You're GOING to lose.  No QUESTION about it.  TRUST me.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 28, 2005, 02:21:58 pm
OFS, maybe I spoke too soon. While enjoying my day at work, I looked on the West playoffs slug.  You're working overtime for SNC and the MWC. 

Thanks ---------- I think.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on October 28, 2005, 02:32:38 pm
BOLD   statement from Mr. Pawlik.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: blueboy on October 28, 2005, 04:25:06 pm
Mr. Coleman...your post is accurate about UW-LaX but if you want to talk about quality loses, look at SNC.  A loss to UW-Whitewater as well as Monmouth....both who happen to be undefeated teams.  The WIAC is a great conference but come on, it's easy to kick SNC out of the rankings for you guys but they still only have 2 loses???  If UW-Lax still has respect after losing to the #2 team in the nation, what about SNC??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ECGolds04 on October 28, 2005, 05:39:58 pm
I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on who to watch for when at the Carrol vs. Monmouth game. I live about 5 minutes from the stadium and was thinking of going to the game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 28, 2005, 06:56:19 pm
The MC offense and the MC defense......

MC football in 05, whether you like it or not!!!!

Look for the Tanney to Haffner connection on O, as well as check out Dante Daniels, he is FAST!!

Next Look for Zigler on D, he is a beast and bast is a shutdown corner if there is such a thing anymore (in regards to D3 football and the MWC).  The D-line is also very very talented and from what i understand they go about 6 or 7 deep.

So pretty much look for MC to dominate
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: repete on October 28, 2005, 07:44:00 pm
Sure, SNC and LAX each lost to Whitewater. But let's be realistic: Only the UWW-LX contest was a game. SNC was kicked up and down the field by WW, while LAX gave WW everything it could handle.

Plus the turd on SNC's schedule is a loss to MC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 28, 2005, 07:51:54 pm
Mr. Coleman...your post is accurate about UW-LaX but if you want to talk about quality loses, look at SNC.  A loss to UW-Whitewater as well as Monmouth....both who happen to be undefeated teams.  The WIAC is a great conference but come on, it's easy to kick SNC out of the rankings for you guys but they still only have 2 loses???  If UW-Lax still has respect after losing to the #2 team in the nation, what about SNC??

You've got to be kidding:
UW-Whitewater 45, St. Norbert 7
UW-Whitewater 29, UW-La Crosse 23
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LFCdad on October 28, 2005, 09:33:47 pm
Pat you've got to be the one thats kidding .Carroll lost at Carthage 14-10 and lost  to Norberts 48-28 .Therefor  Norberts would beat Carthage by two scores.Talk about high school thinking.Come on Pat you better have something better than that!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on October 28, 2005, 10:18:26 pm
Exerpts from a brief conversation while The Roop was having dinner in downtown Beloit tonight.

Hey Coach, it's Ripon tomorrow. Run up the score.

I hope so.

Then mutual pats on the back were exchanged.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 29, 2005, 01:06:23 am
Play that Carroll/Carthage game tomorrow and see if the wide receivers starting in their first game drop the five catches IN THE END ZONE again.

I am not sure you know a lot about how the Carroll/Carthage game went down.

I have something better than that, too -- next year keep in mind that Week 4 is too early for you to be asking about Pool C bids. :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: lfcalum on October 29, 2005, 07:09:02 am
One of the great things that former head coach Chad Eisele did at LFC was asked that none of our fans, players or any other individual who supported our program, take an active role in discussions boards such as this.  Now, I do agree it can be interesting to read and even informative, but when comments made begin to slightly embarass the program something must be done.  As a strong supporter of LFC football and member of our MWC Championship team, I ask that all LFC'ers who don't know what the heck they are talking about to refrain from posting.  Seriously, show some class.  Good Luck to the MWC teams as the season winds down and Playoffs begin.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 29, 2005, 12:47:37 pm
Pat, reminds me of the national media, for which I believe you work full-time. 

I know nothing about a lot of teams, LAX included.  I have seen a couple SNC games this year. That's it.

I just wonder how, going strictly on stats and hear say, you make such sound judgments.  Sure, this is your "other" business, but as I was reading your bios, the one thing that stuck out was circled around having a love for the small school game, or getting d3 athletes recognition for all their hard work.  Totally agreed that's a good cause, but your statements don't always refelct objectivity and support that I would hope you represent. 

Hey, it's your field.  I'm just playing on it.  But that's where some stumble when reading some of your copy.  ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on October 29, 2005, 05:18:07 pm
28-22 Bucs Win, Bucs Win, Bucs Win.................

Side notes from today:

1. Popcorn not as salty as it once was but did taste like it had been around a while.

2. The remodel of the Stadium is great. The pics on the website don't do it justice.

3. On the way home I saw a Monte Carlo that had been raised to accomodate 20" wheels with spinners. Only in Beloit. We love Beloit............ We Love IT.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on October 29, 2005, 05:33:46 pm
To those of you hoping for and predicting a Carroll win over Monmouth today, I'm sorry to disappoint you...actually I'm happy to disappoint you.  ;)

Monmouth 35 - Carroll 27

Found the final score on Carroll's webcast page--don't have any details on how the game went other than seeing that the score around halftime was Monmouth leading 28-7 or something close to that.  Congrats to the Scots, now it's time to finish the deal in the Turkey Bowl next Saturday!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on October 29, 2005, 08:18:23 pm
Glad to see that Monmouth will run the table now. Hopefully that carries over into some post season success. That's probably the only way they (or any future MWC Champion) will earn any respect on the national level. Having seen a WIAA Play Off game Tuesday and the Beloit-Ripon game today. I can't tell much difference between MWC and High School Football. The playbooks may even be the same.

MWC athletes are bigger but WIAA Play Off teams throw the ball better. Special teams play is a toss up.

I believe it was Dolph that pointed out a few weeks ago that football would never be a priority for MWC teams like it is in other conferences. Not sure if that's good or bad but that's just how it is. That being said I thoroughly enjoyed the BC-RC game today. Great fake PAT for a 2 pointer by the Redmen to make it nerve racking towards the end.

The officials let them play today and while I didn't care for it at times, Beloit simply outplayed Ripon to earn the victory in Coach DeGeorges home finale.   
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: bobturkviking on October 29, 2005, 09:22:36 pm
Pat - As a longtime reader of D3 I'm thourghougly disappointed in regards to your growing bias against the MWC.  Your take on the Carroll/Carthage game is the straw that broke the camels back.  As you were obviously not at the game (I'm a Carroll fan, and if you were at the game I'm sure I would have heard about it by now), you would not only know that Carthage didn't even drop 1 TD pass (although they did drop several passes, one of which would have definitely LED to a TD), but you would also know that they faked 4 punts that led directly to them winning the game (as both of their TDs were on drives extended by fake punts).   As far as the conference as a whole being bad, it is clearly not.  There are 3, maybe 4 teams that are at the top and will be for the forseeable future, and some bottom rung teams that will remain there.  Not unlike the CCIW of much of the 80s and 90s.  We may be in a different class than the WIAC, but it is not like we're the NEFC or something.  Maybe you should actually take in a MWC game sometime before passing judgement (and not just a playoff game, or a Ripon/Beloit/Grinnell game with high school offense and defense being played).   Don't get me wrong as I appreciate all that you have done for d3 football in general, but please remember that you are a conduit for the growing of our level of football, and not a decision maker (at least I don't think you are, and hope you are not).  Thanks.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 29, 2005, 11:08:00 pm
I am not biased against the MWC, I am simply realistic. Sometimes objectivity can seem like bias if you are so deep into your program. You obviously have a different viewpoint.

I have never said you were the NEFC, and oddly enough, we don't rank the MWC as if it were. So I think we're set. The bottom two conferences (NEFC and IBFC) are head and shoulders below the rest. Until the UMAC becomes a Division III conference, nobody will challenge those two for the bottom -- barring an extreme influx of talent and playoff success.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on October 29, 2005, 11:29:52 pm
Having seen a WIAA Play Off game Tuesday and the Beloit-Ripon game today. I can't tell much difference between MWC and High School Football. The playbooks may even be the same.

MWC athletes are bigger but WIAA Play Off teams throw the ball better.

Roop - You said that the game you watched today was Ripon vs. Beloit and that WIAA playoff teams throw the ball better than MWC teams.  The way I'm thinking this through is since RC and BC aren't really teams that like to throw the ball around (pretty sure both are option or wing T styles of offense), it's no wonder you think WIAA playoff teams throw the ball better than MWC teams.  The QB's for those 2 MWC teams aren't drop-back passers--they're better suited to be running QB's.  If you watched a Monmouth or Carroll game for example, I'm sure you would see a difference between high school QB's and those in the MWC.  Anyone else feel the same or differently?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on October 30, 2005, 09:28:25 am
Maverick couldnt have said it better myself.  Yes both teams are an option style offense, with RIpon being a triple option, so when they decided to pass(maybe twice a game) its not something that the qb is going to excel at, since that is not a big practice point in practice.  From what i heard it wasnt a very good game for the hawks, but they did make it interesting to the end with the 2 point converson, and the chance to win the game if there was a stand on the defensive side of the ball.  I do have to say though, as knowing DeGeorge for about 19 years, I am glad to see him win his last home game, but sorry to have it had been against RC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on October 30, 2005, 11:54:05 am
GO SCOTS!  I was at the Carroll/Monmouth game.  I was impressed with the Carroll team.  Monmouth jumped out to a 28-7 lead at halftime.  Carroll came back at made a hell of a game out of it.  Personally, i think that Carool screwed up and should of kicked a field goal with 5 minutes left, instead opted to go for the touchdown.  They turned the ball over but ended up kicking a field goal 2 minutes later.  If they would have kicked the field goal they would have a great opportunity to tie the game.  Hats off to the Carroll players, they played hard and there QB is a heck of player.  Congrads again to the first ever playoff appearence and conference champion for the Fighting Scots.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 30, 2005, 08:27:55 pm
Congratulations are in order:


Monmouth College clinches a playoff spot

Coach DeGeorge wins his last home game

Lawrence University hanging half a hundred on LFC

Casey Meehan career rushing and scoring leader at SNC
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 31, 2005, 09:18:52 am
Too many posts to catch up on for proper responses to all of the main topics over the weekend.   Just a few observations:

Congrats to Monmouth, of course.  But let's not start calling ourselves 10-0 just yet...Awh, who am I kidding?  It's turkey time!  I'll be at the game.

To all of the children reading this site: This weekend was the reason you shouldn't bet on college athletics.  To say I was surprised by the MWC scores is an understatement.

Don't ask the Coleman Mafia about their business.  It's hard to type with broken thumbs.

"Monmouth Football ini 2005!"   >:(
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on October 31, 2005, 02:33:32 pm
I know people are entitled to their own opinions, but why would anyone try to tell Pat his are wrong.  I am going out on a limb to say he knows more about other teams and who they play compared anyone on this little MWC board!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on October 31, 2005, 03:14:52 pm
Suck up!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on October 31, 2005, 04:44:59 pm
I am going to guess the pcole has not seen MC or any other MWC team in recent memory that wasnt playing St. Johns or some other beast in the first round of the playoffs.

So....

I personally invite pcole to the MC vs. Nubs game next year at Bobby Woll.  I bet i could even get the AD to offer up a seat in the Luxurious Press Box which overlooks the field from the north side bleachers (those of you familiar with MC have to be smiling).

How bout it Pcole.  Come experience Scots Nation first hand.

MC Football in 05' whether you like it or not!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on October 31, 2005, 05:59:44 pm
Heck, come over to Galesburg, IL this Saturday and watch one of the oldest football rivalries in the country (#6?).  Despite the host school, the venue of the is about as festive (ie. enthusiastically obnxious) as you can get.  You won't be able to hear anything from their P.A. system, but what else is new?  You'll be right on top of the action and are sure to see some creative, um, t-shirt designs. 

Don't need a haiku
To promote Monmouth Nation
Join us for Turkey

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(     
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2005, 06:21:57 pm
I am going to guess the pcole has not seen MC or any other MWC team in recent memory that wasnt playing St. Johns or some other beast in the first round of the playoffs.

So....

I personally invite pcole to the MC vs. Nubs game next year at Bobby Woll.  I bet i could even get the AD to offer up a seat in the Luxurious Press Box which overlooks the field from the north side bleachers (those of you familiar with MC have to be smiling).

How bout it Pcole.  Come experience Scots Nation first hand.

MC Football in 05' whether you like it or not!!!

Tell ya what -- if Monmouth hosts St. Norbert next year you can count on me being there.

Listen, folks, it's this simple. Monmouth has no track record. You can't wrap yourself in St. Norbert's playoff competitiveness and claim it for yourselves, it doesn't work that way, especially since Lake Forest laid an egg the year it won the league. You have to develop your own track record and since you didn't do it in the regular season either of the past two seasons, you'll have to do it in the playoffs.

I hope Monmouth can schedule even a middle-of-the-pack IIAC or MIAC team for its non-conference game in the future. Simpson, Coe, Bethel and St. Thomas are all on our Open Dates board for next year in the first two weeks. Hopefully Monmouth is done with CUW.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 01, 2005, 12:41:00 am
I am going to guess the pcole has not seen MC or any other MWC team in recent memory that wasnt playing St. Johns or some other beast in the first round of the playoffs.

So....

I personally invite pcole to the MC vs. Nubs game next year at Bobby Woll.  I bet i could even get the AD to offer up a seat in the Luxurious Press Box which overlooks the field from the north side bleachers (those of you familiar with MC have to be smiling).

How bout it Pcole.  Come experience Scots Nation first hand.

MC Football in 05' whether you like it or not!!!

Tell ya what -- if Monmouth hosts St. Norbert next year you can count on me being there.

Listen, folks, it's this simple. Monmouth has no track record. You can't wrap yourself in St. Norbert's playoff competitiveness and claim it for yourselves, it doesn't work that way, especially since Lake Forest laid an egg the year it won the league. You have to develop your own track record and since you didn't do it in the regular season either of the past two seasons, you'll have to do it in the playoffs.

I hope Monmouth can schedule even a middle-of-the-pack IIAC or MIAC team for its non-conference game in the future. Simpson, Coe, Bethel and St. Thomas are all on our Open Dates board for next year in the first two weeks. Hopefully Monmouth is done with CUW.

pcole - I think the MWC re-configures the schedule after every 4th season; meaning that after the 2005 season is over with, it could be time to have the schedule re-drawn--not completely sure, but I think that is how it's worked in the past.  But if the schedule isn't re-drawn after this season, it would be St. Norbert's turn to play at Monmouth in 2006 and I'm sure Old Fighting Scot would hold you to your promise of being there. :P  As for non-MWC games of the future: Monmouth is done with CUW and has done better than just a "middle-of-the-pack IIAC or MIAC team" for their non-conference game in the next 2 years.  Wartburg is slated for a home-and-home series in 2006 (at Wartburg) and 2007 (at Monmouth).  I'd say that going off their track record, that's a pretty nice non-conference game for the Scots!

scottie - Should be interesting to see what kind of creative t-shirt designs are present at this year's Turkey Bowl.  See ya there or at the Bijou afterwards!

Old Fighting Scot - It just doesn't get any better than that press box over the east side bleachers at Bobby Woll Memorial Field.  Nothing quite like it...

Hawk Sighting - Thanks for the props, I was pretty sure I knew what I was talking about for once! :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: NINJA MASTER on November 01, 2005, 01:29:42 am
MC at KC in bowl Sat.
Knox must pray for Rain... if it rains KC in upset by 2
If it is dry Monmouth by 70.
you ask...oh great ninja...how can there be such a difference.
I reply....Knox has good run D and decent run game...if wet Knox may squeak one out...but if dry oh my, Monmouth will use Knox as practice dummies preparing for the playoffs
You plead for the outcome as you can't wait for sat. 
Please great wise one...tell us! tell us now!!
Again I reply...it will be wet...KC 12  MC 20...WITH no made extra points (mark it down you will see!)  Lastly, I also see drunk people gathered...shouting obsenities toward each other!...alright that was a gimme.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2005, 04:58:48 am
pcole - I think the MWC re-configures the schedule after every 4th season; meaning that after the 2005 season is over with, it could be time to have the schedule re-drawn--not completely sure, but I think that is how it's worked in the past.  But if the schedule isn't re-drawn after this season, it would be St. Norbert's turn to play at Monmouth in 2006 and I'm sure Old Fighting Scot would hold you to your promise of being there. :P 

And if it's not at Monmouth then no deal, exactly. :)

Good step-up-the-schedule move for Monmouth.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 01, 2005, 08:58:37 am
The addition of Wartburg to Monmouth's schedule was mentioned on this board a few weeks ago.  A competent moderator would have caught that...   :D   For some of the relatively new posters on this board, I should tell you that "pcole" has never lost an argument.

Just kidding, Patrick!


Ninja is confused
Makes no difference wet or dry
Monmouth by fifty

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on November 01, 2005, 10:02:07 am
Oh Great Ninja,
It could actually be raining turkeys and the Scots will put up half a hundo. You cant find a student on the MC campus that knows what its like to have a bad turkey bowl. The last Knox student to enjoy a turkey bowl victory is now a resident at shady acres retirement home in Boca Da Vista, Florida (He and I talked, it was a big day for him).
The Scoties haven't let down the nation yet and definitely wont on this most cherished of games. I only wish I could be up there (stupid wedding).
Maverick, ya got any ideas of who and where were going to be playing. I think I could slip away for a weekend and hop a plane for the playoffs. I'll just tell Christina that I'm going to go and do some grading at school.
Well the Mitchell Mustangs have to get ready for their last game of the season. We need a win to finish 500. On a bright note, with 100 more yards passing and 50 yards rushing our sophomore QB will have 1,000 and 1,000.
My PMS is really starting to burn.
Half a HUNDO. STRAIGHT from the Rooster's mouth
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ccfan69 on November 01, 2005, 10:02:32 am
Congrats to Monmouth.  I think you guys are going to shock a lot of people out there in the nation.  You have a tough team carried by a great qb.


Carroll in '06
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LUtickles on November 01, 2005, 10:09:39 am
MC vs. SNC having a D-coordinator for more than 1 week and it's a different story.  I hope you enjoy the beating you get in the 1st round.  Also, expect a beat down next year at your place. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 01, 2005, 10:45:14 am
MC vs. SNC having a D-coordinator for more than 1 week and it's a different story. I hope you enjoy the beating you get in the 1st round. Also, expect a beat down next year at your place.

Could it be Hulk Hogan?

LU put some numbers up last week.  Looks like Ram Rod, Tickle me Osol and Thee Coach Schultz are cooking with gas.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 01, 2005, 10:58:25 am
There will be no beating down of the Fighting Scots, period.  Not in the turkey bowl (ninja, i refuse to believe, that even you think the fairie fire have a chance), not in the first round of the playoffs, and definitely not at Bobby Woll next year against Nubs.....

PCole, i will be contacting the AD to put an extra cushion on the V.I.P chair for ya.  Think of the game as research, if you actually see the best MWC football in person it would be hard for us to yell bias, when MC goes 10-0 and still isnt ranked, or when MC becomes the only 9-1 team in like 10 years not to make the playoffs.  Also, It would  be hard for you not to give respect to the Scots Nation when we show you what we have all been saying for two years now.  Yes indeed, those boys down at MC can play some football.

MC Football by 50 in the Turkey Bowl, whether the Fairie Fire like it or not!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: MCGramps97 on November 01, 2005, 11:36:35 am
Hello Gentlemen, old 97 here, hope to see some of the oldtimers up at the game this weekend. i'm bringing some students so i wont be joining you at the B-pub, but i'd love to catch up a bit. Good luck Scots!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on November 01, 2005, 12:24:56 pm
Tickets to the Knox-Monmouth Game: $5

2 cases of beer before the game:  $25

Knuck Fox T-shirt:  $12

Being drunk and watching Monmouth win the Turkey Bowl and the outright conference championship:  PRICELESS.

Good luck this Saturday!  D-Line let me hear that god awful song that Ole has taught oh so well, that we will be singing till were in our grave
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 01, 2005, 12:54:11 pm
You MC guys are making asses out of yourselves.

After you get it handed to you vs. UWW or the Johnnies, are you still going to whistle dixie about how you're the best, blah blah blah.

You're team is not that good.  And that's coming from a staunch supporter of this conference.  Hell, even Ripon thinks you're not that good. The Knuck Fox shirt is the best thing posted from you guys since the losing ended.

Quit crying dynasty.  It'll end soon enough.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 01, 2005, 02:11:05 pm
Paws Lick,

Just wait til next year.  You guys got beat, there is nothing u can say to deter the snowball effect which is SCOTS NATION!! 

The recent post are a direct reflection of the 6th oldest football rivalry in the U.S.  Duke-NC, USC-ND, Moreno Valley-Valley View (southern cali, h.s. football-a special place in my heart) have got nothing on Knuck Fox-MC. 

The atmosphere will be electric and the consumption of alcoholic beverages has been so rampant that it has been rumored that some people have become inebriated (sp?) from osmosis, or immaculate consumption, just from being around the game.

Also i hate to say it, but the Knox Bowl is a very unique place to watch football, and a great place when the scotties are stomping out the prairie fire.

MC is no flash in the pan, three losses in the last three years, and only getting better, the program is becoming more complete and we will only become more dominant.  it will probably be a great MC-SNC rivalry for years to come, b/c MC is here to stake their claim to the MWC.

if i wanted to be obnoxious i would bring up the numerous times in the past 5 years that MC couldve and maybe shouldve beaten SNC before this illustrious year.

MC Football in 05, whether Paws Licker likes it or not!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 01, 2005, 02:38:03 pm
04 - SNC 55-19 at MC
03 - SNC 38-15 at SNC
02 - SNC 28-21 at MC
01 - SNC 31-7 at SNC
00 - SNC 45-0 at MC

Before a win this season, the Skirts have been outscored 197-62.
During this stretch,  I see one game you were in.  Suprisingly enough, I believe that was the game O'Grady ran for a school-record 200 and some odd yards.

197-62.  Wow!   There's no rivalry here champ.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on November 01, 2005, 02:47:36 pm
O'Grady ran for his record in 2000 Meacher.  That was the same year we held our "conference rivals" to one play on our side of the 50 yard line.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on November 01, 2005, 02:49:11 pm
And it was 283 yards in about three full quarters.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 01, 2005, 02:52:13 pm
I guess this would be the time to say that the views expressed by some of the posters on this board don't necessarily reflect the entire population they represent...or something like that.

Greg - by now you should know that I am a realist.  And, whereas I am overly excited about this season and proud of our accomplishments in recent years, I am still taking it (basically) one game at a time.

With that said, your comment about the Monmouth fans making a$$e$ out of themselves only brings back memories of how the rest of us must have felt reading all the SNC posts over the last few years which used to take up 75% of this board.

The challenge I pose to Monmouth Nation is to win with some dignity.   When it comes to the post season, I've always rooted for the MWC representative regardless of what color they wore.  I would hope that the rest of you would do the same.

CHEERS  >:(

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2005, 03:49:57 pm
The addition of Wartburg to Monmouth's schedule was mentioned on this board a few weeks ago. 

Sorry. I don't visit the whining boards quite as often.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 01, 2005, 04:26:06 pm
Mr. Coleman, you forgot to copy the rest of my sentence - when I JOKINGLY implied that our moderator was incompetent. 

Oh well, another MWC putdown by the site administrator...  It's starting to get old.

"Possibly Scottie's last post in 2005!"   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on November 01, 2005, 05:33:58 pm
    Monmouth plays at SNC in week 6 of the 2006 season but you knew that already, didn't you Pat?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on November 01, 2005, 05:51:02 pm
Dear SNC fans,
Riddle me this.
Who are yall playing in the play-offs?
Thats right, Beeelow me.
Now any way.
"HIGH ABOVE THE HILLS OF GALESBURG."
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on November 01, 2005, 05:51:39 pm
"THERES AN AWFUL SMELL"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2005, 06:58:18 pm
PapaSmurf, what, me? :)

Yes, St. Norbert's schedule is posted on its web site. I may have been informed of its contents before I made my post.

If I move back to the Midwest it will be easier to see MWC games. But then again, I hadn't seen a SCIAC team or an HCAC team or a CCIW team before they came out to the east coast in recent years either. If a team comes out this direction I make an effort to get to see them in person.

Scottie, I got the joke, just didn't feel the need to repeat it.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on November 01, 2005, 07:04:14 pm
Hostility

Why can't we all just get along?   :(

Just keep our cool  8)

Peace, love and.....ok I couldn't keep it going. 

Greg, MC is having a great season.  And SNC has been dominant in MWC football history and yes SNC fans do brag about it.  Just as MC fans are now.  If Ripon was undefeated and ready for a playoff run I would be braggin about it too....so it all is relative.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 01, 2005, 07:57:06 pm
That's already been established.  Great season - awesome team - let's get drunk - turkey - haikus - fairies







Sorry about the spaces. Your mom called. She wants her titties back.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 01, 2005, 09:33:44 pm
Wow!  Everyone's back to being pissed off at each other again.  You got anything to calm these people down Early? :D

Ninja just jumped straight out of left field with his first ever post--pretty sure that regardless of rain or not, Monmouth will roll over Knox and remind them of just how bad they are at this great game.

FloridaScot - It remains to be seen as to where the Scots will be in the playoffs.  Could be anywhere from here to Wisconsin to the west coast.  Still too many important games left to be played in alot of other conferences.  You should definitely hop a plane and find your way to it though; rumor has it that the skinny wide receiver with the freakish shoulder is going to be making the trip also for the first round game.

ccfan69 - It's good to see someone outside of Scots Nation actually says they're a good team and not just some fluke team or something like that.

Some of the SNC fans - Sounds like sour grapes to me.  SNC had their shot and blew a 20-7 lead with around 17 minutes left in the game.  If the new D-coordinator was the problem, then why did the Knights have little troubles holding the Scots in check for the most part during the first half and the majority of the 3rd quarter?  MC stayed the course throughout the game, never got impatient with the gameplan, made the plays when they needed to, and pulled out a great road win.

MCGramps97 - Will be sure to keep an eye out for you and your students at the Knox Bowl on Saturday.

scottie - They don't realize that saying things like that about the MC posters (making asses of ourselves while talking about our team) is like the pot calling the kettle black.  They did it all the time, now it's our turn to brag on our team for awhile.  I suggest that if someone doesn't like reading what the MC fans post and discuss about this quality Fighting Scots team, don't come and check the boards--sound fair enough? ;)  Just more sour grapes because that dynasty from 1999-2004 is done with and there won't be a trip to the playoffs this season. 

Damn, that's alot of typing trying to keep up with how much the board rolled over today.  I'm outta here...  PMS!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: dw71911 on November 02, 2005, 10:33:45 am
Congrats to MC's Justin Zigler for making D3 team of the week.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: qbdriver on November 02, 2005, 11:36:50 am
Iowa Conference Here,

Congrats to the Scots!  You have had a great season.  It is good to see great football and improving teams and conferences.  Norbert should stop complaining and enjoy the fact that your conference is represented and getting the recognition.  Regarding the playoffs, I think most of us here in the Midwest will stay here for the first round if at all possible.  I know the NCAA does not like to fly teams in the first round if at all possible.   It cost about 50K for a team to fly, but they may have to.   The west coast teams will probably be forced to play each other unless there are three of them then one of them will be making the flight.  Here’s the bracket as projected by D3 Football.  It is incorrect as they state and probably will have the MN league runner-up in there to replace Central, Wartburg or Coe depending on how things play out. 

Linfield Bracket
1. Linfield
2. St. John’s
3. Occidental
4. Coe
5. Monmouth
6. Whitworth
7. Central
8. Wartburg

As you can see UWW has been shipped to a different region which is a high probability.   Here are the probable matchups:

1 - Two of the three west coast teams will play each other with Linfield as the host.

2 - The other west coast team will most likely be shipped to St John’s

3 - That leaves Monmouth, Two Iowa Conference Teams, and Concordia Moorhead to play each other.  That’s assuming Concordia takes care of St Olaf this weekend.  Who knows how the NCAA will match them up.  Coe or Concordia would be the toughest draws……..they are both still stinging from close losses to their arch rivals.  Coe lost by 3 to Wartburg and Concordia lost by 4 to St Johns with 49 seconds left to play.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: tps040580 on November 02, 2005, 04:17:17 pm
I think the Scots would be happy to get a five seed. With SNC having to get to the playoffs several years before hosting, a home game is not realistic. Hopefully they won't get shipped out to St. Johns, Linfield, or Occidental.  The distance and the quality of opponent would make for a tough one. No offense to the IIAC, but Coe would be work out better.  Oh well, that is still two weeks away. I guess this is what happens when there is no drama for the final two weeks. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 02, 2005, 04:22:53 pm
Do the top seeds (1 & 2) usually get a first round bye?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: tps040580 on November 02, 2005, 04:27:04 pm
32 team playoff this year.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 02, 2005, 04:41:39 pm
Paws Lick,

In 99, Nubs Scored 27 4th quarter points to win by 13 at MC...

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 02, 2005, 04:55:08 pm
Paws Lick,

In 99, Nubs Scored 27 4th quarter points to win by 13 at MC...



OK, thanks
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 02, 2005, 04:59:29 pm
Some of you guys are totally off base....

Bragging and saying your team should win are too different things.

There has been very little bragging by the Scots Nation this year.  The only real bragging or trash talking has only been recent as we play the fairie fire this week our most hated and bitter rival.  anyone who has ever been an athlete will understand this sentiment.  As for trash talk against other opponents i do believe it has not been any worse than what Nubs has been saying on this board for years.   >:(

I do believe that the MC posters have given SNC all the respect in the world as a very good, and up until recently, a dominant opponent.  Paws Lick, you yourself have seen me advocate for Nubs as quality (and playoff worthy) team on other boards.  Nubs is good, just not good enough this year.... ;D

i dont know why it needs to be said that some posters do not represent all of scots nation.  People are free to post as they wish and their views should be held against them individually. It is very obvious that the Scots Nation mantra has reached an epidemic proportions and its reach goes from Cali to Fla. and all parts in between.   :o

Pcole, cant wait to see you at Bobby Woll.

Paws Lick, good luck to ya next year...

Scottie, Maverick and the rest of Scots Nation, your nation is only as strong as its weakest link..... ;D (oh, and piss of a fairie fire student for me).

MC Football in 05 (and dare i say beyond), whether you like it or not!!

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 02, 2005, 08:04:25 pm

Pcole, cant wait to see you at Bobby Woll.


I only agreed to come for the 2006 game against St. Norbert. Sounds like you didn't hold up your end of the bargain to provide an actual game. :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: The Roop on November 02, 2005, 11:12:53 pm
qbdriver,

Based on the teams forecasted to make the playoffs you can count on seedings by economics. One half of the bracket will have Monmouth @Coe and Central @St. Johns. The California half of the bracket will be Whitworth @Occidental and Wartburg (or MN runner up) @Linfield. With the NCAA praying for a Linfield win. Given the cost of flying football teams around, I can't say I blame them.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: warhawkalum on November 03, 2005, 01:03:57 am
Hey Midwest conference,
I just want to congratulate Monmouth, on winnign the conference,and getting the automatic bid. You guys deserve an automatic bid no matter what anyone says,and yes there are people out there that say the MWC doesn't deserve a automatic bid.
Anyways it looks like a MWC-WIAC match up will have to occur later in the playoffs, as Whitewater is most likely going to be shifted to the North region. Which avoids us having to go to Linfield right away.
Anyways good luck,and do some damage in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ccfan69 on November 03, 2005, 10:43:06 am
I can't believe everything that is going on here and being said.  Monmouth is a good team and for those of you that have seen them play this year you can't deny that no matter what team you are cheering for.  I think that Monmouth will do very well in the playoffs and its not about what team is there right now.  Monmouth won the conference fairly and I think everyone in the MWC should be supporting them.  They need our support to go out into the nation and show them that the MWC does have good teams.  This is more then just Monmouth getting a chance in the playoffs they are representing OUR conference, now lets support them!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 03, 2005, 11:10:10 am
BRAVO!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: desertcat1 on November 03, 2005, 11:23:13 am
qbdriver,

Based on the teams forecasted to make the playoffs you can count on seedings by economics. One half of the bracket will have Monmouth @Coe and Central @St. Johns. The California half of the bracket will be Whitworth @Occidental and Wartburg (or MN runner up) @Linfield. With the NCAA praying for a Linfield win. Given the cost of flying football teams around, I can't say I blame them.


Rooper, 
The NCAA would save more $$$ if they prayed for a cat loss ,  :'( Then no flights to Oregon).. but they know better..  ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on November 03, 2005, 11:42:16 am
No one is cheering against them.

But let's get a few things straight.

You're not my rival if I knock you on your a$$ almost every season and I slip and fall on my own a$$ for a single season.  Beat SNC on a regular basis and we'll start talking rivalry.

Spare us the dynasty bs.  Come talk to us when you've put together six of these bad boys in a row or even three for that matter and we'll start talking dynasty.  SNC has won ten MWC titles since it entered the conference twenty years ago.  Since 1953, this is only the fourth time Monmouth has managed to take the conference title.  Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

With respect to THIS YEAR they played well enough to beat SNC fair and square, capitalizing on the SND letting down its gaurd, and deserve to walk away with this year's title.  I am certain everyone who played in the MWC wants them to perform well as it is a direct reflection of their own play.

Call me childish, but I would be lying if I said I didn't want to see Monmouth draw an SJU or UWW.  I'm sorry, but I would like for another team to see what we've been up against almost every year trying to better the program.  I think our friends on LFC's 2002 team found out it is a different brand of football when you leave the conference and play into the later months of November.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on November 03, 2005, 12:29:50 pm
"you're not my rival if I knock you on your a$$ almost every season and I slip and fall on my own a$$ for a single season.  Beat SNC on a regular basis and we'll start talking rivalry. "

First off, no one is talking about a rivalry.  That is some thing that happens over long periods of time.  So take I'll wait a minute so you can take your foot out of your mouth...
Secondly, who gives a s*#t if you won six in a row.  Let the past go, its over and so is your career as a Knight.  Move on.
Third, Monmouth recently got a new coach, a school that cares about sports, and president who wants to spend money it.  Frankly, if Monmouth would not win with the facilities that they have, I a former alum, would be pissed off.
Last but not least, as long as Monmouth remains at the top of the conference.  I will be happy. GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on November 03, 2005, 12:46:26 pm
Just for fun:

a·lum·nus ( P ) n. pl. a·lum·ni (-n)
A male graduate or former student of a school, college, or university.

So you used to be an alumnus to Monmouth?
Are you a "former alum" because they took your degree away for making simple comments like the one you just did?

Virtually everyone on this board is an alumnus to an MWC school, so virtually everyone on here no longer has a career as a Knight, Skirt, Red Duck, Tree, or any other team.

It is amazing that I can make a stronger arguement with my "foot in my mouth" than you can with your big giant "former alum" brain.  Go Scots!  Keep turning out winners like this guy.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on November 03, 2005, 12:49:53 pm
I am aware it is a petty post, but I can't have a guy who refers to himself as a former alum of an institution telling me I have my foot in my mouth.

Purtill to hang a half a hundy on Monmouth next season.  Enjoy it while you can Skirts.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on November 03, 2005, 12:59:07 pm
Good season Scots.

Get back on track next season Knights.

Consider me retired again.  Some of the younger guys can do this, because I don't have time to keep this up.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 03, 2005, 01:24:26 pm
pcole,

generally the games between opponents just alternate on a year to year basis.  if the MC vs Nubs game truly is back in De "Poor" I dont know what to tell ya.  My bad i guess....

On another note...

WTF, who does the conference scheduling?  MC beats Nubs at Nubs then has to go back and play them at Nubs again?  Whatever i guess we have to "shock the world (or the MWC) two years in a row...."

I guess I am the one who mentioned the word rivalry.  Believe me, i know there is no current SNC/MC rivalry.  You guys have dominated this conference and all the accolades you have achieved are well deserved.  I said that this could be one.  For all i care, (xsnd47) Nubs could never beat us again, and then you would be right, no rivalry. 

Nubs guys, your team has been great over the past few years.  Believe me i am very very sorry that we could not have beaten you sooner.  Then maybe we wouldnt be having this debate.  MC football has been building to something special over the last few years, and hopefully beating Nubs is not a culmination but the beginning of something really special. 

Good luck to Scots...  And also Ill keep my fingers crossed for Nubs to get into the playoffs, two losses to teams with combined 17-0 record is not something to be ashamed of. 

MC football in 05' whether you like it or not....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 03, 2005, 03:17:52 pm
Just a simple reminder:  ;)

Pleeze czech awl you're posts
Befour their putt on the bored
Prufe-reeding madders

Don't make me bust out a sonnet!  :D

Scots 38, Knox 7 in the Turkey Bowl

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 03, 2005, 03:25:37 pm
Did somedody say rivlary?

http://www.pjstar.com/stories/110305/COL_B814IUI5.076.shtml 

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: wnc52 on November 03, 2005, 03:34:28 pm
Has Monmouth won the Turkey Bowl six years in a row now?  I was thinking the series was 50-50 at one time.  If so, I expect number 7 comes with relatively no problem this year.  Even though I'm an IC guy, good luck in the playoffs Monmouth!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 03, 2005, 03:53:32 pm
I believe six years is correct.  The Scots won in Kelly Kane's last year and have won in each of Coach Bell's first five years.  Don't forget about the ten ties.   :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 03, 2005, 05:06:13 pm
The Early Line : 


BC @ IC   -  BC -7

CC @ GC  -  CC -23.5

MC @ KC  -  MC -17

SNC @ LFC -  SNC -32

Mac @ RC  -  RC -27.5
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 03, 2005, 05:49:11 pm
All this talk about 'rivalries' has me hungry (and thirsty) for TURKEY!  Unfortunately I will not be able to make it down for the game again this year.  Friggin weddings!  I will, however, be making the trek to wherever the SCOTS may be in the playoffs.  Hope to see some of you fellow 'alumni' there.

GO SCOTS!

KNUCK FOX!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 04, 2005, 01:11:09 am
You're not my rival if I knock you on your a$$ almost every season and I slip and fall on my own a$$ for a single season.  Beat SNC on a regular basis and we'll start talking rivalry.

Spare us the dynasty bs.  Come talk to us when you've put together six of these bad boys in a row or even three for that matter and we'll start talking dynasty.  SNC has won ten MWC titles since it entered the conference twenty years ago.  Since 1953, this is only the fourth time Monmouth has managed to take the conference title.  Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Like papa90 said before, nobody on here is talking about MC-SNC being a rivalry game--one person mentioned it and that was all.  And MC went to Minahan this season and took the game from the Knights, it wasn't a "slip and fall on their own ass."  Simply put: it was an MC win, not an SNC loss.

As for the "dynasty bs", I have yet to see any MC fans post anything remotely close to calling the Scots a dynasty.  Have we resorted to just making things up in an attempt to create message board controversy?! :D

Consider me retired again. Some of the younger guys can do this, because I don't have time to keep this up.

Not enough time to keep this up??  You had 4 posts in less than an hour and a half...it would appear you've got plenty of time to keep it up.  Do us all a favor and stay retired for good this time--none of us have time to keep up with whether you're actually retired for good or not each time you say it. ;)


schwanman - Nice haiku there.  That even tops quite a few of scottie's efforts in the past!  (Just kidding scottie, you're the haiku king)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 04, 2005, 09:19:28 am
Schwan Man is the king 
I'm simply the court jester
Genes of English flow 

Any word on the weather in G-burg tomorrow?  They are talking about heavy rain for the east central part of the State.  I just want to be sure my bundle is properly packed.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on November 04, 2005, 10:08:55 am
I think it is safe to say that there are no worries about Ripon coming out with a "W" this weekend.  Question for the room, the word on the street is Macalaster might be droppoing their football program, has anyone heard else heard this? 

 If everyone is right and Monmouth does play Coe at Coe, I will be able to see this first round of the play offs game, early, if you are interested in coming to good ole Iowa for the game let me know, i have a place for ya to crash, and the festivities will be plentiful here in Cedar Rapids. 
   I'll be at the game in Ripon this weekend, anyone else planning on making the trip to see Macalaster get trompled?!?! 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 04, 2005, 10:41:20 am
The Weatherman Says-
Cloudy skies early. A few showers developing later in the day. High around 65F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 04, 2005, 10:51:24 am
I think the only game that's tough to call is the IC, Belwa game other than that they are all pretty much over right now.

Carroll rolls over a team that gave up before the season started 43-13......

Monmouth, with no rain, wins 45-8 easily in the bowl......

Nubs, in an effort to please the BCS, gives LFC a Roman Soldier Helmet and wins without showing up 58- 20.....

Ripon, in the JV game, wins playing 3 and 4's after the half by 27 already preparing for next season
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 04, 2005, 05:26:45 pm
I think it is safe to say that there are no worries about Ripon coming out with a "W" this weekend.  Question for the room, the word on the street is Macalaster might be droppoing their football program, has anyone heard else heard this? 

I haven't heard that, and we have pretty good contacts in the Macalester community. We had their coach resigning posted before it was announced, etc.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 04, 2005, 06:00:47 pm
That would be a tremedous blow to the MWC, the Division III version of the Big Ten (11). 

Enjoy the weekend!  Go Scots!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 05, 2005, 06:46:20 pm
GREAT SCOTS!

Wow, is Mitch Tanney incredible!

I'm not sure how the NCAA figures passing efficiency (is anybody?) but 21-of-23 for 405 yards, five TDS and no picks must be off the charts.

Good to see Scottie at the game. Scots Nation was represented well. I guess I'm the first to post about the game because everyone else is celebrating!

Congratulations Fighting Scots and enjoy your well-deserved week off!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 05, 2005, 06:48:44 pm
Let's try this again:

GREAT SCOTS!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 05, 2005, 11:15:45 pm
Congrats to the Skirts. Nice season. Please, please don't lay an egg.

Nubs, nice season gentlemen.  Looks like LFC is taking steps backwards. A quick shout to Josh, Jim, Dusty, Callahan and Patty. You did us proud.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Brick on November 05, 2005, 11:39:22 pm
Greg new picture please
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Augie6 on November 07, 2005, 01:22:38 am
Question for you Scots fans.  Does anyone know if Mitch Tanney is the son of Don Tanney, who was a great basketball player for Monmouth back in the 70's? 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on November 07, 2005, 01:30:17 am
Yeah he is.  He went to Wasbash College for two years and then transfered to Monmouth to finish off his second two years of college and play for the Fighting Scots.  At least that is what I hear through the grapevine.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 07, 2005, 09:07:02 am
Not much action over on the board over the weekend, I see....

A thoroughly enjoyable Saturday afternoon if you're a Scots fan.  What an impressive performance by MC on both sides of the ball.  Monmouth dodged a couple of bullets early in the game and then erupted.  If Tanney is not on the team of the week, something is askew.

Maverick and Schwannie:  Good to see you at the Bowl. 

Now we wait....

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   >:(

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 07, 2005, 09:26:42 am
A little more info on the Wabash-Monmouth connection:

Although heavily recruited by Monmouth -- his father Don's alma mater -- Mitch Tanney chose Wabash and played there two years. He didn't see the field much, however, posting no stats as a freshman and 16-of-27 passing for 189 yards and a TD as a sophomore.

Monmouth and Wabash are both undefeated this year. Wabash senior quarterback Russ Harbaugh is having a season nearly as impressive as Tanney's, so it's a good thing that both of these talented players are able to start for their respective teams.

Speaking of transfers from Wabash, Monmouth College just inaugurated a new president, Mauri Ditzler, who came from Wabash. And Monmouth's former president took the head position at another football power, Mount Union.

I had the pleasure of watching Don Tanney play basketball for Monmouth in the late 1970s. Did you, too, Augie6?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Augie6 on November 07, 2005, 09:50:36 am
Schwanman,

Actually, I had the pleasure of watching Don Tanney play in high school.  My Dad was the head basketball coach in Princeville, IL where Don Tanney grew up.  I did make a couple of trips up to Monmouth with my Dad to watch him play.  As a  kid, he was one of the players in high school that I really looked up to. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 07, 2005, 09:56:11 am
The Monmouth-Wabash-Mt. Union connection won by a combined score of 145-0 this weekend. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on November 07, 2005, 10:11:46 am
I bet Mitch wouldn't mind having Monmouth shipped to the North for a showdown against Wabash, however, Monmouth doesn't deserve the seventh or eigth seed in the North.  They would have to find them in the second round, maybe Wabash gets the first slot and Monmouth the fourth.  If Wabash loses to Depauw maybe they would meet in the first round with Wabash ranked third and Monmouth sixth.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: btown on November 07, 2005, 10:39:19 am
I was at the monmouth/knox game, congrats to the scots on a great season.  My only worry though is the scots running game (they couldnt run the ball against knox!), maybe they dont need to run in the mwc with a qb like tanney and a solid recieving core but it is going to be a different story come playoff time. 

also, congrats to the bucs on their 3rd straight victory, send ED out with a win fellas, he deserves it. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 07, 2005, 11:03:23 am
Couple quick comments:

1) I figured out how to compute pass efficiency. For the Knox game, Tanney's rating was 310.9!!!

2) Technically, Monmouth didn't need to run against Knox, although they will need to run in the playoffs. Their No. 1 and No. 2 tailbacks both missed the Knox game. With two weeks' rest, I'm sure the Scots hope to at least get the No. 1 TB back in the lineup. It's nice to have a No. 3 tailback as good as Bobby Gibbs. He was called the MVP of the Carroll game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on November 07, 2005, 12:23:25 pm
Congrads to the Monmouth fighting scots on another Bronze Turkey.  Thanksgiving is going to be mighty tasty again this year.  It was nice to see some of the old faces around the bowl this year.
I hope that it is a good thing that Monmouth has a bye at the end of the season, however the Monmouth train is rolling and it would be nice to play a game next week to stay in the groove.  I am excited for any match-up that may come our way in the first round.  Monmouth can hang with any team in the country when Tanney is on and the line is giving him time to throw the ball.  However, we will wait and see what happens.  The Scots will represent our conference well.  All of us should help support Monmouth against whomever they play.  Good Luck boys.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Redhawk95 on November 07, 2005, 12:56:47 pm
Yes, I'm new to this board. I would like to say that it is great to have such a place to discuss about D3 football.  Good stuff here.

I would like to say a huge congrats to Coach Ernst on his win over Maclaster and in doing so, becoming the winningest coach in RC football history.  8)

Go Redhawks!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScotsR BetterThanU on November 07, 2005, 05:59:17 pm
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-turkey03.html
Chicago Sun Times: "Turkey likely to gobble up more cash this year"

The Sun Times can say whatever it likes. The reason turkey prices are going up this year is because the Scots are hording the turkey all for themselves. No turkey for you Knox! 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on November 07, 2005, 09:50:48 pm
So who do you all think the scots will most likely play in the first round?  It would be nice to play some middle of the pack regional team so that they could get a little momentum with them for a second round that would be a lot harder.

Oh and by the way what ar the little karma things on people and how do people acheive them positive or negative.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on November 08, 2005, 10:44:53 am
So exactly when will the Scots be playing the play off game?
I need an exact date because I may need to resign my assistant wrestling coach position in order to make it up there. Some one help'a brother out.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 08, 2005, 10:48:17 am
Uh Oh look who has come aboard!!  What up Maverick???  Just want to say hey to all my fellow Fighting Scotsmen out there.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 08, 2005, 11:18:02 am
MC Football in 05!!

i know it is very selfish of me, but i am really hoping for a Scots Nations visit to eagle rock come next week.  if it does happen, Free Lodging at la casa de la smoov for anyone who brings me a Knuck Fox T-shirt!!!!

10-0 BABY, I like it, I love it, I want some more of it!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 08, 2005, 12:22:36 pm
What up C??  I will bring you a Knuck Fox shirt... may have to steal one though, or hell maybe just have to make the shirt that was banned!!!!1 ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 09, 2005, 12:32:24 am
Dear God, help us all--the skinny wide receiver with the freak shoulder has joined the mayhem that is "Post Patterns."  Of course we all knew this was coming sooner or later though since he is king of the internet! :D  Thanks for the shout-out buddy.

scottie - Was good to see you again this weekend at the Bowl.  That was my first time to watch a game from the top of the hillsides there rather than being down on field level; it is quite a nice venue for watching a game.

FloridaScot - The first round of playoff games is on Saturday, Nov, 19th.  The official pairings/brackets will be released on Sunday, Nov. 13th.  Now start searching for your plane ticket.

Old Fighting Scot - If a trip out to the west coast should arise, I was expecting that free lodging at La Casa de Smoov was an understood thing (and I mean with or without bringing a Knuck Fox t-shirt). ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 09, 2005, 09:13:37 am
Dear God, help us all--the skinny wide receiver with the freak shoulder has joined the mayhem that is "Post Patterns."  Of course we all knew this was coming sooner or later though since he is king of the internet!   Thanks for the shout-out buddy.

I am not the king of the internet, I believe I know some people that give you that crown!!!  As far as the freak goes, yes it is still there and I am trying to pu ton weight so it may disappear.

Do you think I should make the Knuck Fox shirts that were banned??  I mean I still have the layout.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 09, 2005, 10:46:53 pm
I am not the king of the internet, I believe I know some people that give you that crown!!!  As far as the freak goes, yes it is still there and I am trying to pu ton weight so it may disappear.

Do you think I should make the Knuck Fox shirts that were banned??  I mean I still have the layout.

I didn't want to bring it to this, but now you forced me to.  What I should've said in the first place was "king of the internet chat rooms, etc."  I may wear the crown for the regular internet, but you rule the rest of it! :P

Don't worry about the shirts at this point, but save the layout anyways.  It could always come in handy at some point in the future--possibly this year's playoffs or maybe some Turkey Bowl down the road.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 09, 2005, 10:59:54 pm
The Early Lines for three season ending games:

Beloit @ Grinnell   BC -18  Running wild on whoever is left on GC

Ripon @KC   RC -13  Knox not enough left in final home game

IC @ Lawrence    LU -20  IC throws up the white flag
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 10, 2005, 09:47:56 am
Mav, in all your projections, you have the Skirts no further down then No. 5. That's pretty generous considering your playoff history (which is none).

Whether you're a 5, 6, 7, or 8, I suppose it doesn't matter, but I found your outlook lofty.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 10, 2005, 12:14:13 pm
We will all have to wait and see about the seeds.  That is true.

But, Greg, what "really" does history have to do with the seeds?  If history is the indicator, then Augustana should probably be a #1 seed, correct?  And, did you see that North Carolina and Kansas are ranked #2 and #3 respectively in this year's pre-season basketball rankings???  ??? Whatever happened to the team that you've got and the results that you have achieved THIS year?  (I can sense a Colemanism in our future...) 

The bottom line is that the Scots will take whatever seed they get and play to the best of their ability.  Undoubtedly, they will do their best to represent Monmouth College (and the rest of the MWC) well.  We ALL should be in favor of that.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 10, 2005, 12:57:50 pm
Which basketball rankings? I saw the Heels were picked to finish ninth in the ACC.

Traditionally, which you have none in the playoffs, many would see you as a six or seven (8 if Linfield wasn't on board), matching you up against SJU or, I hope, UWW.

That's been my experience.

We ALL don't need to root for anyone.  Coombaya!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 10, 2005, 01:56:51 pm
I don't know what the fuss is about anyways.  Me and my grandma could be ranked #1 right now and then on sunday be ranked 7th.  nothing matters until sunday when the seeds come out for real!!  I would like to see my fellow Scotsmen seeded high, but the MWC doesn't get any respect...maybe the conference champ wasn't the best team in years past, but this year it is.  I am not saying that Monmouth should get anything higher than a 5, but shouldn't a team that is undefeated be higher than a team with a loss???

For instance, the Fighting Illini, who no one thought would be good this past basketball season, was ranked #1 in the nation for most of the year without a loss, eventhough UNC proved that they were #1 in the end.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on November 10, 2005, 02:03:34 pm
Congratulations to Coach DeGeorge:

He brought the BC program up from nearly folding to one of the finest in the MWC in the 90s. Good luck in your final game coach. Send him out a winner.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 10, 2005, 02:12:38 pm
"Which basketball rankings? I saw the Heels were picked to finish ninth in the ACC."  G. Pawlick

Hey, Einstein!  :) - Try recognizing sarcasm when you see it.  My point, which you ALL should have inferred, was that North Carolina and Kansas (two traditional powerhouses) are both UN-ranked right now.

That Monmouth was unable to win the conference during the impressive run of SNC is their own problem.  Since the MWC champs couldn't do much with their title in playoffs over that same period is, I guess, the MWC's (and now the Scots') problem.

I can't wait til the pairings come out and the nonsense ends...

Yeah, Midwest Conference
ONE for the great Greg Pawlik
Greg Pawlik for ONE

 ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 10, 2005, 02:13:29 pm
I agree.  Congrats to Coach DeGeorge on a great career.  He deserves to be sent out a winner.

Snydz - you and your grandma wouldn't be ranked #1 in anything...except maybe a potato sack race at a church potluck.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 10, 2005, 02:29:41 pm
The problem is your former coach made you duds feel like part of this season's success.

Why, becuase you cheer loud, or drink a lot on Friday night and show up early for the game Saturday? Or, becuase you're on an Internet chat board discussing the finer points?

You have as much to do with the Skirts finally winning as I do for Nubs winning before I was there or after I left.

This whole 12th man thing is out of hand. It's not that you cheer for your team - no one can deny you that. But, you drool and loathe over a team you had nothing to do with.

I don't think this can get thrown in my face, either. You guys were perennial losers in the big game.
In a lot of eyes, you deserve no credit or adoration for losing the big game year after year. Yet, one would swear you've never lost a game with the tone you take day after day.

Point and case: I'm Einstein. OK. Maybe you just write like crap.

When you cheer these kids. Be proud you went there. Don't take the credit.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 10, 2005, 03:49:20 pm
Greg:  What was the perennial big game?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 10, 2005, 04:28:26 pm
Greg: What was the perennial big game?

You're going to argue that now that you're "On Top". When did you play. Did I kick your ass too?

I've said my peace, which will make you all happy. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 10, 2005, 04:54:39 pm
"When did you play. Did I kick your ass too?"

Strong words from someone who thinks former players have "nothing to do with" their program's present success.

So apparently, you had "everything" to do with SNC beating MC in the past and required no help from any teammate?

Posts like that make OUR SCOTS' season much sweeter.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 10, 2005, 05:12:00 pm
Is there a MADD DOGG in the house???  I think so, and I think he is going to go crazy on someone in sec.

It is hard for me to read this crap about 1 person, not a team, but 1 person having everything to do with the success of a team.

Madd Dogg---havent heard from you in a while...have you finished the radio stuff???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 10, 2005, 05:18:42 pm
So apparently, you had "everything" to do with SNC beating MC in the past and required no help from any teammate?

Posts like that make OUR SCOTS' season much sweeter.

Actually, I meant personally (one on one if you're from Illinois), not as a team. Sorry Einstein, as you duds would say.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 10, 2005, 05:44:24 pm
Greg, I'm going to be out of the office tomorrow.  So you'll have to thump your chest on your own.   

Looking forward to the post-season news.

Monmouth Fight Scots
Not undefeated for life
But so far this year

Peace, I'm outta here!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 10, 2005, 06:54:53 pm
Greg, I'm going to be out of the office tomorrow.  So you'll have to thump your chest on your own.   

Looking forward to the post-season news.

Monmouth Fight Scots
Not undefeated for life
But so far this year

Peace, I'm outta here!

Douche bag
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScotsR BetterThanU on November 10, 2005, 06:59:10 pm
Howdy Scots Nation!

I'll tell you what.  Doesn't it feel great to be atop the Midwest Conference? Here's hoping for it to be a feeling that lasts a long time.  I'll tell you what, it is nice to drink on Fridays and show up early on Saturdays then spend the day watching your former team win all 10 of its games..... 
Others get to drink on Fridays and show up early on Saturdays and see their team win, only 8 games though.  Now, on to the finer points.....
How is this Anthony Goranson?  I coach with a guy that said he introduced him to Monmouth and he says the kid is for real? Is it the truth? From his stats it seems he gets the job done. Look forward to seeing him play.
Hopefully I’ll see you all soon Rooster, Maverick, Snydz, Grandpa, Papa, and the rest of the Scots Nation!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 10, 2005, 07:52:17 pm
Howdy Scots Nation!

I'll tell you what.  Doesn't it feel great to be atop the Midwest Conference? Here's hoping for it to be a feeling that lasts a long time.  I'll tell you what, it is nice to drink on Fridays and show up early on Saturdays then spend the day watching your former team win all 10 of its games..... 

Hopefully I’ll see you all soon Rooster, Maverick, Snydz, Grandpa, Papa, and the rest of the Scots Nation!


All I have to say to your quote is this:  there is only one feeling that is good this year and it is for only one team, the Monmouth College Fighting Scots!  This feeling will last for a long and no one can take that away from the boyz!!

FCB - It is always a pleasure seeing my fellow teammates and it is going to be especially nice to them all at the playoff game!!!  Can't wait to pre-game it out of the Roush, if I still have it, before the game!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 10, 2005, 10:11:53 pm
Mav, in all your projections, you have the Skirts no further down then No. 5. That's pretty generous considering your playoff history (which is none).

Whether you're a 5, 6, 7, or 8, I suppose it doesn't matter, but I found your outlook lofty.

Greg - It's Scots, not Skirts...but if you want to go around telling people that the team you played for isn't in the playoffs this season because they lost to the Skirts, go right ahead.  In case you didn't catch this one either, that was some more of that sarcasm stuff that went right over your head in a previous post. ;) 

Anyhow, back to my seeding predictions.  It may be somewhat lofty considering Monmouth's playoff history (none, can't argue that fact), but the reason I placed the Scots as the number 5 seed is because they're a conference champion and deserve to be placed ahead of the 1-loss Pool C qualifiers but also should be put behind the other West region conference champions.  Until someone from the MWC wins a couple games in the playoffs (hopefully it'll be Monmouth this year), that's where an undefeated MWC champion should be seeded for the playoffs--behind other undefeated conference champions but in front of 1-loss Pool C qualifiers. 

Winning a couple playoff games would do wonders for future MWC playoff teams; just look at Occidental--they won 2 playoff games last season (one home game, one road game), are now ranked in the top 10 of the nation in each poll that I've seen, and in the very next year they are looking at getting another home playoff game in the first round.  All that from a team in a conference (SCIAC) that wasn't looked very highly upon in the past.  As I said before, hopefully Monmouth can do some damage in the playoffs this year, change outsiders' opinions of the MWC, and make the future brighter for MWC champs to come just like Occidental has done for the SCIAC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 10, 2005, 10:32:40 pm
scottie - You know very well that once the pairings are released on Sunday the nonsense will end, but the bitching and complaining (from one side or another) will take its place right away! >:(

McAlum77 - Good call on that having "nothing to do with" a program's present success.  And Snydz wouldn't be ranked #1 in anything including potato sack races.  Well, maybe #1 goofiest radio show assistant from back in the day!  Ha!

ScotsR BetterThanU - Goranson can play, he's had strong games in each one that I've seen this year.  You missed the Turkey Bowl and I was disappointed, you better not miss the game on Nov. 19--I know I'll be there and pretty sure that plenty of Scots Nation will be present also.

Snydz - How the hell are we gonna tailgate out of the back of your Roush?  Need something bigger for some real good tailgating!

From here on out, I might just start replying to those in Scots Nation and to nothing from anyone outside of it--I'm tired of all the crap.  My suggestion for the day: if you don't like reading all of us discussing a quality team, don't come here and read it...just go somewhere else to be a douche bag.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 10, 2005, 10:44:18 pm
LOL!

Mav--you a funny guy.

Any ideas as to which hoody Scots Nation should were???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 10, 2005, 10:53:18 pm
LOL!

Mav--you a funny guy.

Any ideas as to which hoody Scots Nation should were???

Thanks buddy--I do what I can with the humor.  These things just come to me at times. 

As for the hoody of choice for Scots Nation, I'll be wearing my regular gray and red Monmouth Football sweatshirt that I've worn at every other game when it was cold enough to wear one.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 10, 2005, 10:55:46 pm
McAlum77 - Good call on that having "nothing to do with" a program's present success.  And Snydz wouldn't be ranked #1 in anything including potato sack races. Well, maybe #1 goofiest radio show assistant from back in the day! Ha!

Snydz - How the hell are we gonna tailgate out of the back of your Roush? Need something bigger for some real good tailgating!


Mav you are funny.  I know was not the main person on the radio show, but i got ladies calling for me to come to their rooms!!! ;)

I am #1 in something Mav...I am the only person to have an alien as a shoulder!!! :P

Not to sure as to how we will tailgate in the Roush, but I will think of something...I'm sneaky!!!

The grey one is nicest one, but wasn't sure if we were going to bring out Big Red.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 10, 2005, 11:01:43 pm
scottie--been a while, you enjoying life not at Monmouth???  Just wanted to say thank you again for that email you sent me while I was still at good ole MC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 11, 2005, 12:31:32 am
Mav you are funny.  I know was not the main person on the radio show, but i got ladies calling for me to come to their rooms!!! ;)

I am #1 in something Mav...I am the only person to have an alien as a shoulder!!! :P

Not to sure as to how we will tailgate in the Roush, but I will think of something...I'm sneaky!!!

The grey one is nicest one, but wasn't sure if we were going to bring out Big Red.

Yeah, you had ladies calling for you to go to their rooms like one time.  And I'm pretty sure that was because the 2 DJ's were paying them for it!  Haha--I kid, I kid! :D

If having something that looks like an alien growing out of your shoulder is something that you're proud of, then more power to ya bro!

You come up with something on the tailgating, let me know.

If you want to bring out the big red hoody, go for it.  I'm gonna stick with the gray one since some pretty good things have happened when I'm wearing it.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on November 11, 2005, 01:17:10 am
Howdy Fellas'
I've hit a few lumps in the road mainly one named Christina. I've gotta wrestling tournament the weekend of the Play-off game also airfare is outrageous. But, I've got a feeling I'm gonna say ta hell with it and get my kilt wearing ass up there. Cause that goes with being part of something important.
I'm going to risk my future marriage and coaching career to climb all the way back North to see the F*ing Scots.
Greg you must know what its like to do that after you played at Norberts. All of thoughs cold Midwest  mornings you threw off your Scooby-Doo sheets to run up stairs from your parent's basement (I'm sorry your "apartment") with excitement to go see your team play. What were all trying to say here Gegg is stop being so angry. Its not the fault of anyone in the Scots Nation that your coach would only let you on the feild to get the tee after kick-offs. By the way from what I understand you were the best tee fetcher.
FCB, MAVERICK, SKINNY RECEIEVER, PAPA,WESTICLE, and the rest of the nation
The temperature makes me hate it,
But, the school makes me love it.
Go MONMOUTH.
I'll be on my way as the Rooster flies.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 11, 2005, 09:12:46 am

If having something that looks like an alien growing out of your shoulder is something that you're proud of, then more power to ya bro!

You come up with something on the tailgating, let me know.


It is not something I'm proud of, just something I have to deal with.  Can't let the alien bring me down.

As far as the tailgate thing, I think I will bring some beer in the car (that's about it will hold)!!

Rooster


FCB, MAVERICK, SKINNY RECEIEVER, PAPA,WESTICLE, and the rest of the nation
The temperature makes me hate it,
But, the school makes me love it.
Go MONMOUTH.
I'll be on my way as the Rooster flies.

Why do you always have to make fun of the fact that I am skinny???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: CBS on November 13, 2005, 01:40:24 pm
Congrats to Coach DeGeorgio....stuck to that Wing T for 30,000 years.....I salute` you.

good luck to Monmouth..looks like St.John's...someone needs to go into Johnnieland and kick some tail....is it you MC?

Look out for Larry......in '06......Can they once again fill the Banta Bowl?

Great seasons to all ..hope ya had fun..CBS out...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 13, 2005, 03:40:55 pm
Monmouth, congrats on an undefeated season and on winning the MWC.


Welcome to the big show.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sjusection105 on November 13, 2005, 06:30:44 pm
If any Monmouth fans would like to participate in the discussion on the MIAC board,feel free. We are looking for any insite on your squad. We do sometimes get off the football topic,hence the 465 pages of conversation. We would also be able to answer any travel questions if any of you are planning on making the trip to Central Minnesota.Welcome :)

Look for details about Johnnie Red's tailgate party,I'm sure he will pop over here with an invite. Over the years fans from Central, Redlands,Linfield just to name a few have joined in on the pre-game play off celebration.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnnie_esq on November 13, 2005, 06:51:37 pm
Looking forward to welcome the Fighting Scots to Collegeville-- we hope you'll enjoy the place and the charm that is St. John's, and we look forward to a clean, injury free game.

Please participate in discussing your squad with us, and do come to the Stiftingfestivities tailgate before the game.  It'll be a fun experience!

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 13, 2005, 07:38:55 pm
...said the spider to the fly
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 13, 2005, 08:03:42 pm
In case anyone wants a word document printable bracket, here's one I threw together today complete with records of all competing teams. 

Best of luck to all teams!

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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: 57Johnnie on November 13, 2005, 09:17:01 pm
Congratulations Monmouth on a great season.

Welcome to Collegeville for a good time.  :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 13, 2005, 10:46:41 pm
The early line:

Gags 51, Skirts 12

Any takers?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 13, 2005, 11:51:40 pm
Fighting Scots fans:
Send your football team if you want, but please send your pipe band to play at The Stiftungfestivities, the world-famous pre-game celebration for all St. John's football games.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 14, 2005, 12:17:30 am
SJU fans - From all of Scots Nation, thanks for all the welcomes/invites on Saturday's game.  Personally, I've always thought the Johnnie posters seemed like good, knowledgable football fans so that makes me look forward to the trip to Collegeville even more.  That plus I've wanted to see a game at Clemens Stadium sometime (looks like a great facility from pictures I've seen on the internet), so I guess I got my wish.  Some of us Fighting Scots will be there tailgating so we'll have to keep an eye out for your world famous "Stiftungfestivities." :)

Scots Nation - I'll be in touch with some of you about making arrangements for the weekend, etc...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kiltman85 on November 14, 2005, 12:29:02 am
All I know is that I'm going to be with Scots Nation, dressed in my kilt, sword, red socks, and Monmouth shirt no matter how cold it is
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Johnnie Red on November 14, 2005, 08:02:18 am
Monmouth fans, aka Scots Nation, you are cordially invited to join us for the Stiftungsfestivities tailgate party in Collegeville this Saturday. The party will be starting at 8:00 a.m. and will go to 11:30 a.m. When you drive into St. John's, you will come to a four way stop by the athletic complex, which will be on your left. Continue straight and head up the hill toward the church. The stadium will be on your left. Just past the stadium you will see a road that goes left. Turn here and head back to the parking lot, which is where the tailgate party is. We are just above the scoreboard end of the field. In the event you cannot park back there, you can always walk up to join us.

We will be starting the grills around 9:30 a.m. and will be serving the world famous Stiftungsfest burgers. Bring a culinary delight to share and the adult beverage of your choice.

Hope you can join us! Any questions, just let me know.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 09:08:19 am
I echo the sentiments of previous Johnnie posters.  Come and join us, we always have a good time.  I look forward to a fun-filled day with the Johnnies prevailing in a Monkey StompTM.

Feel free to poke your heads in the MIAC board this week.  Our conversations are quite lively.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 14, 2005, 09:12:03 am
Scottie's Monday morning ramblings...

Sticks and Stones, Greg.  Put it in a haiku and I'll give you some style points.

Congrats to Coach DeGeorge on winning his last four and going out with a winning MWC record.  For some of the younger members of Scots Nation, one of his sons went to Monmouth.

Thanks for the shout-out, Snydz.  

And, finally... Congrats to the Scots and good luck against St. John's - one of the most storied programs in DIII football.  And, from the posts that I've read so far, some of the classiest fans.  (MWC posters take note.)



Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 09:19:40 am
I like Greg's prediction :P
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 09:42:19 am
All I know is that I'm going to be with Scots Nation, dressed in my kilt, sword, red socks, and Monmouth shirt no matter how cold it is


I've worn a kilt in 15 degree weather with a youth medium basketball jersey snug on my 200 lb frame.... it's definitely do-able. Your boys will come back down sometime around march.


Remember, it's not a kilt if there's anything underneath!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 14, 2005, 09:45:54 am
What a bracket!!   :o

Round One vs. #3 St. Johns
The winner could get #2 Whitewater in Round Two.
And the winner of that game could get #1 Linfield in Round Three.

"Do you believe in miracles?!?"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: AnotherJohnnie on November 14, 2005, 09:52:21 am
What a bracket!!   :o

"Do you believe in miracles?!?"

I asked that same question at the end of the SJU-Concordia game this year.  Miracles do happen. 

At least after those three games, it might get easier from there :).
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 14, 2005, 10:14:50 am
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Re: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #6943 on: Yesterday at 01:19:05 PM » 

SJU v. Monmouth, then UWW 
__________________________________

Skirts, now you get to play jerks like yourself. One big Jerkfestingust burger fest.

Eat their crap meat, and get blown out. Then, you can join the rest of us in the cold winter.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 10:26:42 am
Greg,

Don't be bitter just because your knights don't get to make their annual 1st round bow out.


SNC will win the conference next year or the year after and your boys can get right back to being a virtual bye for whomever you play.



Let Monmouth enjoy their run... and lay off the bitter soup for a while.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 14, 2005, 10:34:12 am
Greg,

Don't be bitter just because your knights don't get to make their annual 1st round bow out.


SNC will win the conference next year or the year after and your boys can get right back to being a virtual bye for whomever you play.



Let Monmouth enjoy their run... and lay off the bitter soup for a while.

I will sign off
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 10:52:35 am
I will sign off

Outstanding!

Usually I like St. Norbert and their fans to wait until the 1st round game to sign off, but this is even better!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SeattleScot on November 14, 2005, 11:31:42 am
Yo Scottie!

Remember my roommate when I was in law school?  He was a Johnnie grad.  I always enjoyed hearing his stories about the great Gagliardi-coached teams.  Personally, I think it's an honor to get to play against such a storied program.  I just hope the Scots go out and play as hard as they have all season.  If that's enough to get a victory, great.  If not, at least they will know that they left everything on the field.  I only wish I could make it back to the midwest for a trip to Collegeville just to experience the atmosphere. 

Scottie, don't you think that the excitement surrounding this team this year isn't just about football but is really more of a symbol of all the really good things that have been taking place at MC over the last five or six years?

Go Scots!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 14, 2005, 11:33:47 am
Go get'em scotties!  Its been a long time coming and at least a year late.  Play like it.

Scots Nation I am frantically trying to schedule another Minny Business trip, cross your fingers for me....

Maverick, how are those young titans looking???

MC Football in 05 (whether Nubs can stomach it or not)!!!
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 14, 2005, 11:51:18 am
Area code 206 in the house...  Welcome to Scots Nation, SeattleScot!  Maybe you'll get a chance to see the Scots dominate out in Linfield in the third round.   ;)  Tell your old roommate that at least our women look better than their's....  ha ha!

Greg P - You don't like basketball, do you?

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 14, 2005, 12:03:08 pm
Greg P - You don't like basketball, do you?

No, don't worry. I think my viewpoints have been expressed, and I'll leave the Scots' faithful to enjoy their playoff experience.

Nice season, and good luck. Words of advise: Enjoy the experience.

See you in August. It's been fun banter.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 14, 2005, 12:10:27 pm
Cheers, Greg.  Let's hope for two MWC teams in the playoffs next year.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on November 14, 2005, 12:15:53 pm
Hey all Scots supporters.  If you can't be an athlete greg than at least be a athletic supporter, jag off.  

I am happy that Monmouth made the playoffs.  St. Johns is a tough pull but hey to be the best you have to beat the best.  I would rather play the toughest teams early.  I am sick of the "MWC is weak" crap.  We can prove to the country and the players that we are for real.  We have to prove it of course, but what a great opportunity for Monmouth.  It should be a hard fought game and I look forward to a great atmosphere up in Minn.

Hold on I forgot, did anyone catch Pat on ESPNews.  He looked like a deer in headlights.  Its ok Pat, you warmed up after the first 5 minutes.  Go SCOTS!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 14, 2005, 12:25:12 pm
Welcome to Collegeville, Scots! Enjoy the visit and I hope you bring a better game than your MWC companions have in the past. The only thing I really remember from those St. Norbie "contests" was the Dancin' Schussler. Good TE (and from what I hear, soldier), but he let the Sea of Red get to him. It's quite the atmosphere. Soak it up.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on November 14, 2005, 12:46:14 pm
What, are there no DIII schools in Alaska? Maybe we could have played them and given me an even further trip. But Like I said in an earlier post, This is an important event for everyone in the Scots Nation. So I'll be playing hooky from school friday and flying to Chi-town to begin the trip the furthest north that I have ever ventured.
FCB and I'll be rolling Smoky and the Bandit style. I had always wanted to visit collegeville only I was thinking more like in the summer. By the way hows the weather up there?
This is going to be a great day for the Scots to showcase their play and play-calling.

On another note, if Gregg is finally signing off till next season (which I doubt). Then allow me one last BEELOW ME GREGG.

SCOTS NATION FOLLOW THE THIN RED LINE NORTH
My PMS is outrageous.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 14, 2005, 12:50:59 pm
I had always wanted to visit collegeville only I was thinking more like in the summer. By the way hows the weather up there?
This is going to be a great day for the Scots to showcase their play and play-calling.


Saturday (24 hours): Snow showers possible. Highs in the low 40s and lows in the upper 20s.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Touchdown Tommy on November 14, 2005, 12:52:58 pm
Thanks for the forecast Ken Barlow...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 12:59:50 pm
Sounds like there could be some white stuff on it's way tomorrow.  Fins, do you have chains for the Pace Arrow?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: MCGramps97 on November 14, 2005, 01:01:41 pm
Hello my fellow Kilt Rockers.
well as Pappa said its a tough draw, but man what a story this game could be. I was reading up on SJU from their web site, their coach is amazing (not that Bell and Braun arn't). He took over the coaching duties of his highschool team at the age of 16 when his coach was drafted into WWII. Unreal. Thats stuff myths are made of. I'm gonna try and convince the old ball and chain to let me play in Johnnie country. we'll see. Good luck to the boys in kilts. My Scottish heart is with you.

A kilt feels good no matter what the temp is.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 14, 2005, 01:06:38 pm
Thanks for the forecast Ken Barlow...
It's always warm and sunny in my world!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 14, 2005, 01:08:12 pm
Sounds like there could be some white stuff on it's way tomorrow.  Fins, do you have chains for the Pace Arrow?
Those doolies on the back will go through anything. I better check the furnace though. We may need a halftime warming house.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 14, 2005, 01:12:13 pm
Hello my fellow Kilt Rockers.
well as Pappa said its a tough draw, but man what a story this game could be. I was reading up on SJU from their web site, their coach is amazing (not that Bell and Braun arn't). He took over the coaching duties of his highschool team at the age of 16 when his coach was drafted into WWII. Unreal. Thats stuff myths are made of. I'm gonna try and convince the old ball and chain to let me play in Johnnie country. we'll see. Good luck to the boys in kilts. My Scottish heart is with you.

A kilt feels good no matter what the temp is.

Check under that kilt and see if you've got a pair. If so, tell your wife you're going to a football game in Minnesota on Saturday and you're not quite sure when you'll be back. She'll understand 30 years from now when she hears you telling your grandchildren about the amazing coach you saw once in Minnesota back in oh-five.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: AnotherJohnnie on November 14, 2005, 01:15:27 pm
Hey Monmouth backers,

Do you guys run a lot, pass a lot or do you have a pretty balanced offense?  I would say that SJU is a better passing team because a really good D usually seems to shut our running game down.  Sometimes the passing game can open things up again later, at least around the ends.

In any case, I am trying to gague how the weather might affect the game, if at all.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 14, 2005, 01:24:01 pm
Greetings to the Scots Faithful!!

A little pre-welcome from Central Minnesota!

A couple of things to keep in mind for Saturday....

1.  The tailgate is almost as exciting as the game! All Scots fans are welcome.
2.  The Weekly Hamms shotgun-a-thon will be held at 10:30.  All Scots fans are welcome!
3.  Duff and Ritz are pretty good at Shotgunning ;D
4.  It will be ball shrinking weather!  Good luck with the kilts!
5.  It's playoff football!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 14, 2005, 01:47:00 pm
Oh yeah...Couple more things...

1.  Chanting "Ole Ole Ole" during the game is frowned upon. Ask St. Olaf

2.  Jumping up and down on the bleachers during the game is a) not safe, b) really funny looking, and 3) only done by Bethel (since they cannot dance)

3.  Sugar Daddies is NOT a candy store

4.  Friday night-------All are welcome to the LaPlayette in St. Joe for 16 oz. taps of Hamms!!

Sounds like the Scots and  St. Norb have a nice little rivalry going!

Remember the thing about us Johnnies.....We love to have fun, talk a little smack, but its all about meeting, greeting, and beating people!

Hope to see a strong contingent on Saturday!

If anyone has any questions about the area, e-mail me on my account in my profile!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 02:05:19 pm
Any one going to be wearing their kilts???  IM me on aol fellow Scots Nationers.  I will be in Collegeville Friday, just look for the Black Roush Mustang!!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 14, 2005, 02:37:05 pm
Any one going to be wearing their kilts???  IM me on aol fellow Scots Nationers.  I will be in Collegeville Friday, just look for the Black Roush Mustang!!!!!

May want to go to St. Cloud or St. Joe on Friday.  May be a little creepy to hang out in Collegeville on Friday night..Unless you want to get a good parking spot, or be the 1st in line to the game!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 02:56:20 pm
Yes, you might want to know that Collegeville isn't a real town.  It's pretty much just SJU and about 10 houses.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 14, 2005, 03:58:36 pm
Any one going to be wearing their kilts??? IM me on aol fellow Scots Nationers. I will be in Collegeville Friday, just look for the Black Roush Mustang!!!!!

Damn Snydz!  You steal that Roush?

Well, it looks like this weekend's game will be harder to get to than I thought.  I'll spare you all the rant.  Good luck to the SCOTS!  Pull out a victory and I WILL BE at the next game.  Especially if it's at Whitewater!

Snydz is drunk...don't listen to him!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 05:15:14 pm
Any one going to be wearing their kilts??? IM me on aol fellow Scots Nationers. I will be in Collegeville Friday, just look for the Black Roush Mustang!!!!!

Damn Snydz! You steal that Roush?

Well, it looks like this weekend's game will be harder to get to than I thought. I'll spare you all the rant. Good luck to the SCOTS! Pull out a victory and I WILL BE at the next game. Especially if it's at Whitewater!

Snydz is drunk...don't listen to him!

Madd Dogg, I am not drunk........yet!!!  No I did not steal my Roush.  If you were cool enough to come to the game, you would see it!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kiltman85 on November 14, 2005, 05:45:36 pm
Any one going to be wearing their kilts???  IM me on aol fellow Scots Nationers.  I will be in Collegeville Friday, just look for the Black Roush Mustang!!!!!
 


I will definitely be in my kilt with my face painted just like I was at every other game this year.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 05:53:56 pm
Well sorry for the bad news, but if it is snowy up in the Minn., doesn't look like the Roush will make the trip...We will have to wait and see
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on November 14, 2005, 07:03:50 pm
     Good luck this weekend Scots!  This years' Johns probably aren't as good as they were two years ago which is good news for you.  However, they should be well rested having taken last year off after winning it all. ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 08:14:00 pm
This years' Johns probably aren't as good as they were two years ago which is good news for you.
The only reason the '03 SJU squad may have been better is Blake Elliot.  The defense this year is better.  Backfield this year is better.  QB in '03 may have had a slight advantage.  Receivers and O-line are a wash.  Look out for the big, red train.  Woo Woo!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 08:24:41 pm

 Look out for the big, red train. Woo Woo!


The only red train that I know of is the Monmouth O-train!!!  Choo-Choo
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 08:30:54 pm
Your little choo choo is about to get steamed off the tracks.


Learn the name Damien Dumonceau so that when your QB wakes up next Monday and asks if anyone saw the truck you can tell him it's name.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 08:46:36 pm
I'd get used to Dumonceaux, not Dumonceau :P
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 09:10:53 pm
My letter before y and after w key is broken.

It makes it really hard to talk about _-rays, _ylophones, and _enophobia.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 09:21:20 pm
And your favorite type of movies :o
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on November 14, 2005, 09:38:01 pm
So duff man what is your problem.  Why come to our board and start talking trash?  Your mister Dumonceaux has only one move and that is the club to the shoulder with the swim.  Yes granted that he is fast, but that doesn't do much when you go up against a very good pass blocking team like the Monmouth o-line.  And how could one player have such an affect on a whole game is beyond me.  He is not God.  Lets save the trash talk for after the game is over.  When the game is then should the victorious team talk trash.  So please if you are not going to add any intellegent comments to this board please stick to your own.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on November 14, 2005, 09:40:06 pm
So duff man and kiltdrat what is your problem.  Why come to our board and start talking trash?  Your mister Dumonceaux has only one move and that is the club to the shoulder with the swim.  Yes granted that he is fast, but that doesn't do much when you go up against a very good pass blocking team like the Monmouth o-line.  And how could one player have such an affect on a whole game is beyond me.  He is not God.  Lets save the trash talk for after the game is over.  When the game is then should the victorious team talk trash.  So please if you are not going to add any intellegent comments to this board please stick to your own.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on November 14, 2005, 09:41:14 pm
sorry about the double post
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 09:42:34 pm
Actually, I was the one who came on here talking up Dumonceaux.


Lets save the trash talk for after the game is over.  When the game is then should the victorious team talk trash.

But after SJU wins, you will all be gone and to whom will we talk trash?


Dumo is a beast as is Good, the likes of which I guarantee your O-line has not seen in your conference.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 09:46:06 pm
I am not scared of Domeofaoefiefeax  whatever his name is.  I will see if he changes my mind on saturday
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 09:47:34 pm
Unless you're on the field, there's no real reason to be. He's a real nice guy.

On the field it'll be interesting how Monmouth tries to handle a guy who has the speed to block punts straight up the middle after getting through two blockers yet still has the strength to stand up a double team and still make the play.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 09:50:39 pm
thats an easy answer...my favorite block....cutblock, cant make plays on the ground
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 09:52:11 pm
Sorry Scots Nation--

The Roush will not be making the trip due to weather conditions.   :(  Looks like it will be the Grand Prix GTP instead
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 09:54:50 pm
thats an easy answer...my favorite block....cutblock, cant make plays on the ground

If it was that easy, he wouldn't have 60 tackles, 13.5 for loss (69 yards lost total), 7 sacks, and 4 blocked kicks.

St. Thomas tried to cut block him a few plays last week he either side stepped them or jumped/ran over them. Cleat marks on your back really make you think twice about throwing your next cutblock.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 14, 2005, 09:56:17 pm
So please if you are not going to add any intellegent comments to this board please stick to your own.

We have a dearth of our intelligent comments on our own board, too. If that was the criteria for posting, we'd all be SOL.

Please, PLEASE, can't we stay and play?
Or come over to our board and talk trash. We like to play that way.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 09:56:44 pm
What fun would trash talking be after-the-fact?  Just trying to liven your board up a little bit.

I'd consider a club to the shoulder and swim two separate moves, so I guess he has two moves, huh?  

The fact is that there are 10 of Dumonceaux's good friends that will be on the field with him that will make life miserable for the Scots.  The last time we played some Scots, they got scared and left the conference!  I hope your QB brings his Depends with, or at least a changed of pants :o
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 09:57:02 pm
st. thomas and im sure they were really good
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 09:58:18 pm
Probably better than anyone in the MWC :-*
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 09:58:46 pm
Probably better than anyone in the MWC :-*

Agreed.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 09:59:40 pm

 I hope your QB brings his Depends with, or at least a changed of pants :o


Change of pants?? on artifical turf???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 10:01:15 pm
Its the soiling that comes from within he must contend with, not from the field.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 14, 2005, 10:02:24 pm

 I hope your QB brings his Depends with, or at least a changed of pants :o


Change of pants?? on artifical turf???

There's some grass over by the bleachers, if he'd rather change his pants over there.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 10:12:43 pm
The closes thing we have to a head to head game is Carleton vs. Beloit.

Carleton was 2-6 in our conference yet they beat a Beloit team that was 5-4 in your conference on Beloit's turf.

More than likely this means that our conference is stonger. Past match-ups confirm this and Saturday will as well.



Your conference basically advertises it's fear of stronger conferences in your non-conference schedule. SNC played UWW I'll give them that much, but Ripon, Knox, Lake Forest, and Grinnell all scheduled Macalaster, who left the MIAC because they were sick of getting dominated year in and year out, for their 1 and only non-conference game.


MIAC is leaps and bounds above the MWC as will be seen on Saturday.




Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 10:26:45 pm
I got a question, what is up with the karma????  How does it go up/down?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 10:30:14 pm
When you get to 200 posts, you get "karma privilidges."

You can applaud or smite someone, but you can only smite/applaud a person every 12 hours.

When you get applauded your karma goes up, when you get smited, it goes down.

Since you're at -3, and you seem to have only been posting tonight, 3 people dislike you or what you have to say and have smited you.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 10:30:51 pm
finsleft---I just want to say thank you for choosing a monmouth pic as your pic...I believe this shows how much cooler monmouth is then st. johns
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 10:32:11 pm
When you get to 200 posts, you get "karma privilidges."

You can applaud or smite someone, but you can only smite/applaud a person every 12 hours.

When you get applauded your karma goes up, when you get smited, it goes down.

Since you're at -3, and you seem to have only been posting tonight, 3 people dislike you or what you have to say and have smited you.

eh, what can you do?  Looks like I fit in well here...no one liked me on either field or the court!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScotsR BetterThanU on November 14, 2005, 10:41:26 pm
I'll show you how the karma goes down Snydz! Recently I ran out of toilet paper. I was in quite a pinch.  However, being resourceful I remembered I had something else I could use, The Sweet Season by Austin Murphy. Having wasted money buying it in the first place I made sure I used it wisely.  Thanks St. Johns for providing Mr. Murphy with the "writing" material.  Without you I would have been in quite a bit of trouble.  I'll lead the punch throwing. Here we go Scotties! 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 14, 2005, 10:45:37 pm
I'll show you how the karma goes down Snydz! Recently I ran out of toilet paper. I was in quite a pinch.  However, being resourceful I remembered I had something else I could use, The Sweet Season by Austin Murphy. Having wasted money buying it in the first place I made sure I used it wisely.  Thanks St. Johns for providing Mr. Murphy with the "writing" material.  Without you I would have been in quite a bit of trouble.  I'll lead the punch throwing. Here we go Scotties! 

LMMFAO = for you johnnies who dont know the language...tough
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 10:47:50 pm
You probably would have been better suited buying a coloring book or at least a Golden Book with words small enough that you could understand.

Austin has a tendency to use 2 and 3 syllable words...big words... that I'm sure made the book well beyond your comprehension level.


I would use a book about a MWC team having a great playoff run (run consisting of more than one win) for toilet paper, but it's still about 40 years off.


Snydz,
Not nice to talk about mothers and asses in the same acronym.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnniebread on November 14, 2005, 10:49:55 pm
Dumo will stick to your QB much like those pages to your buttocks.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 10:56:17 pm
That's some expensive toilet paper!  Newspaper would have been a better option. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 14, 2005, 10:57:49 pm
I have to ask.  Did Monmouth send out an e-mail advertising this site after making play-offs?  It doesn't seem like any of you has much posting experience.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Touchdown Tommy on November 14, 2005, 10:59:38 pm
Especially since this board is only on the 40th page...

Duffy,

Do you think think a double MonkeyStompout is possible for Saturday?  Like 49-0 or so...

The Bus is making the trip to Whitewater, be there or be square...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DustySJU on November 14, 2005, 11:03:14 pm
MWC fans; Here’s another comparison for you... MIAC Conference foe St. Olaf would have dominated your conference this year.  The Johnnies smoked 'em 63-9.  Enjoy the sites, the surrounds and the Stiftungfestivities....

The pregame write-up on your site is worth noting as is your rec center... looks top notch.

Just hope the 2nd/3rd stringers aren't playing before the 4th quarter, that’ll tell you how the afternoon is going.... nobody comes to the gates of hell and wins in a big game... it just doesn't happen.

Developing.....

By the way, The A-Man is off limits.... anyone who publicizes DIII should be honored... The A-Man is a friend of mine.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 14, 2005, 11:37:08 pm
finsleft---I just want to say thank you for choosing a monmouth pic as your pic...I believe this shows how much cooler monmouth is then st. johns

You're welcome Snydz. I loved the picture. Monmouth seems way cool. Wish we had a guy in a turkey suit. We just have guys that put on plaid skirts and run around the field. Oh, wait a minute....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 14, 2005, 11:40:13 pm
Hey... I resemble that comment!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 14, 2005, 11:46:45 pm
Hey... I resemble that comment!
Thought you would. You should really be here for your convention on Saturday.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScotsR BetterThanU on November 14, 2005, 11:55:30 pm
Rocky vs. The Russian

You may be bigger. You may be faster. Everyone might be in your corner, but come the fourth quarter when the Scots have you on the ropes and you begin to bleed, and you will, even your fans will come to our side. Lets go Scots!
"We always have to be in the middle of the action 'cause we're the warriors. And without some challenge, without some damn war to fight then the warriors might as well be dead."  You know your challenge Scots now go out there and prove you are warriors once again!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 12:06:45 am
Or go lay an egg, whatever comes natural
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 15, 2005, 01:12:10 am
Damn, the board's been moving quicker than usual today.  Got all these Johnnies visiting over here and making it tough for me to keep up with 5 new pages since last night!  I know the board moves even faster on the MIAC page but I'm just used to this one rolling along nice and slow most of the time. :)  Wish I could find some time in the middle of the day to check up on the board rather than catching it all at once at night time.  Love some of the creative smack talking though, it's been alot better than Greg's bitter/jealous posts that have just grown old over the past few weeks.  Here's hoping that it all leads to one hell of a game on Saturday!

Old Fighting Scot - The young Titans are coming along--still a work in progress for now, but should turn out well.  Hope to see you in Collegeville this weekend.

Snydz, FloridaScot, ScotsR BetterThanU - I'll be calling you and some other Fighting Scots alums about hotel arrangements in St. Cloud for Friday night.  Plus we gotta figure out tailgating, etc. for Saturday prior to the game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2005, 01:48:19 am
Hopefully they all learned about it by watching the Division III selection show on ESPNews. :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on November 15, 2005, 07:38:01 am
SNC beat St. Thomas twice in recent history.  Doesn't really back up your theory, does it?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 08:14:29 am
SNC beat St. Thomas twice in recent history.  Doesn't really back up your theory, does it?

So, your conference champ can sneak past (21-19 in '03, 35-31 in '02) a middle-of--the-pack MIAC team and you're going to brag about that?  Give me a break.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 08:15:11 am
Did Jester76 run away?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on November 15, 2005, 08:23:56 am
Just trying to dispel myths with fact.  You can't support your statement using fantasy games that were never played.  If you want to say that the MWC's best teams would be middle of the pack MIAC teams I couldn't really argue that.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 08:31:11 am
Rocky vs. The Russian

You may be bigger. You may be faster. Everyone might be in your corner, but come the fourth quarter when the Scots have you on the ropes and you begin to bleed, and you will, even your fans will come to our side. Lets go Scots!
"We always have to be in the middle of the action 'cause we're the warriors. And without some challenge, without some damn war to fight then the warriors might as well be dead."  You know your challenge Scots now go out there and prove you are warriors once again!

We must break you.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 08:55:36 am


We must break you.

And the Johnnies are cut.....they are not a machine, they are only HUMAN!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Johnnie Red on November 15, 2005, 08:59:37 am
Monmouth fans, you should tailgate with the Johnnies Saturday morning. You would be most welcome. We have done this in the past during the playoffs and have always enjoyed meeting visiting fans.

As previously mentioned, we will be starting at 8:00 a.m. in the parking lot behind the library, just above the scoreboard end of the football field. We will have the grills going by 9:30. Bring a culinary delight to share and the adult beverage of your choice. If you get there early enough, you should be able to find a parking spot. When you get to the four way stop, continue up the hill with the athletic complex and the stadium on your left. The church will be straight ahead at the top of the hill. Look for your first left past the stadium to get to the parking lot. Hope to see you. Best burgers in the United States to go along with the best Division III team and coach in the United States, the Johnnies and coach Gagliardi. :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 09:17:24 am
...and bring your president!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 15, 2005, 09:19:45 am
Welcome to this site all MIAC fans.  You sure are active posters.  

Please note that there is a two haiku minimum by the end of the week.   :D

Scottie



Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 15, 2005, 09:23:41 am
For example...

Will St. John's webcast
The big game on Saturday
For the fans at home?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 09:43:27 am
St. John's will webcast
Radio for play by play
Listen as you lose ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 09:44:38 am
Scottie, I'll work on some Haikus.

Check here (http://www.gojohnnies.com/football/default.htm) later in the week and there should be a link to the webcast.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 09:49:56 am
I present my opening haiku:

Johnnies will prevail
Will it be a Monkey StompTM?
Just phone it in now
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 15, 2005, 11:43:21 am
Thanks, Duffman.   I'll check for the link later in the week.  Do you know if they have a size limit for online distribution?

Here come the Johnnies
Trash-talking intensifies
Scots talk on the field

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"  >:(
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 11:44:17 am
Scots talk on the field
Saying we tried very hard
Dumo ate our lunch
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 11:45:35 am
I present my opening haiku:

Johnnies will prevail
Will it be a Monkey StompTM?
Just phone it in now

Doubtful on the Monkey Stomp!!

What up Scottie????
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 11:54:08 am
Two red teams will meet
in a clash of unbeatens
the home team won't lose
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 11:54:47 am
Dumonceaux and Good
make their home in your backfield
rough day for the Scots
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 11:56:43 am
Thanks, Duffman.   I'll check for the link later in the week.  Do you know if they have a size limit for online distribution?

Limits? I don't know
I am Johnnie to the core
so I go to games
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 11:57:45 am
 

Please note that there is a two haiku minimum by the end of the week.   :D


I'm well past that quota!  Good idea!  Trash talking in verse rocks.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 11:59:29 am
Bast with pick
Zig with a block
lving in the endzone
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 12:00:39 pm
I present my opening haiku:

Johnnies will prevail
Will it be a Monkey StompTM?
Just phone it in now

Doubtful on the Monkey Stomp!!

What up Scottie????

You doubt monkeystomp?
St. Olaf fans doubted too
They saw, Scots will too.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 12:05:27 pm
Bast with pick
Zig with a block
lving in the endzone

This is no Haiku
are you a budding poet?
or just ignorant?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 15, 2005, 12:08:46 pm
Bonaduce Rat?
Duffman's avatar proves it
Fluffy ears beat kilts
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:12:32 pm
no poet...just athlete
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 15, 2005, 12:13:18 pm
"Limits? I do not know
I am Johnnie to the core
so I go to games "

Duffman, "technically" I don't think that qualifies as a haiku, either.  I would have combined "do" and "not" as "don't".   But you passed your limit, so it's all good.


Keep yappin Johnnies
We'll raise your Monkey Stomp
With two Johnnie Chomps!  (Do I need a TM here???)   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 12:14:48 pm
What are Johnnie Chomps?
Is that when Dumo comes in
And eats your QB?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 12:16:56 pm
Snydz,

You obviously never saw Duff when he played, he is definitely an athlete.
He is also the reigning Hamm's Stiftungfestivities Shotgunning Champ.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:19:22 pm
I let my athletics speak for themselves...guess you never heard of me??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 12:21:08 pm
Nope, they must not be speaking very loudly.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:24:13 pm
eh, obviously you dont check out D3 hoops!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:27:28 pm
but i dont think anyone has ever heard of your boy Duff
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: FloridaScot on November 15, 2005, 12:27:41 pm
Well I will have to admit that the new banter is welcome and appreciated. Let it be known that MC has a few D-linemen that can play some ball. Also, it is common knowledge that the F*ing Scots can be a force on special teams, as far as kick blocking is concerned.

I on behalf of the rest of the Scots Nation appreciate the tailgating invite. My tailgating will begin in the Tampa international airport lounge on Thursday evening, so I should be good and ready by the time we arrive in Minnesota.
FCB, now the comment about the SWEET SEASON. That was a tad uncalled for, we both enjoyed that book alot. Now I personnaly printed out numerous team pictures from the St. John's website and wiped my ass with those.
Maverick and Snydz, were gonna be leaving Chicago on Friday night after FCB is done with work.
Let it be known that the fat kid in the turkey suit is the LB.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 12:30:58 pm
Snydz,
Nope, don't follow D3hoops especially in the offseason.
Use chapstick or you might get sore lips from tooting your own horn so much.


While many people may not have hear of my boy Duff, a lot of people have heard of the West region champs ring he wears.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:33:16 pm
not tooting my own horn, just stating facts
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:34:42 pm
Well I will have to admit that the new banter is welcome and appreciated. Let it be known that MC has a few D-linemen that can play some ball. Also, it is common knowledge that the F*ing Scots can be a force on special teams, as far as kick blocking is concerned.

I on behalf of the rest of the Scots Nation appreciate the tailgating invite. My tailgating will begin in the Tampa international airport lounge on Thursday evening, so I should be good and ready by the time we arrive in Minnesota.
FCB, now the comment about the SWEET SEASON. That was a tad uncalled for, we both enjoyed that book alot. Now I personnaly printed out numerous team pictures from the St. John's website and wiped my ass with those.
Maverick and Snydz, were gonna be leaving Chicago on Friday night after FCB is done with work.
Let it be known that the fat kid in the turkey suit is the LB.

Hey floridascot, FCB has my cell number so give me a call fir night...i will be minneanpolis fri night
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 15, 2005, 12:35:50 pm
Monmouth College comes
Stiftungfestivities rock
The Johnnies will win
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:38:07 pm
Snydz,
Nope, don't follow D3hoops especially in the offseason.
Use chapstick or you might get sore lips from tooting your own horn so much.


While many people may not have hear of my boy Duff, a lot of people have heard of the West region champs ring he wears.

nice of you to talk for him and talk about his accomplishments...congrats to him, but this is between you and i...and i think my fellow scots nation can back me up with my accomplishments
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 12:41:50 pm
Congrats on your accomplishments, but what does that have to do with the price of rice in China or Monmouth's impending playoff exit that begins in 96 hours and 18 minutes?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:43:16 pm
you tell me since you started it...i just simply stated that i was not a poet but an athlete
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 12:46:02 pm
You're the one who brought up that you're a great athlete... unfortunately for your Scots its not between the endlines.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:48:01 pm
show me where i said that i was a great athlete????
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 12:49:16 pm
Duffman, "technically" I don't think that qualifies as a haiku, either.  I would have combined "do" and "not" as "don't".   But you passed your limit, so it's all good.

Oh, good call.  I screwed that one up.  I'll go back and edit it.  Still new to the haiku.

I screwed that one up
I feel stupid and foolish
just like the Scots will
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:51:53 pm
Snydz,

You obviously never saw Duff when he played, he is definitely an athlete.
He is also the reigning Hamm's Stiftungfestivities Shotgunning Champ.

and before that you can quote me as saying that i m not a poet, but an athlete
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 12:51:53 pm
I was an athlete
now I am just a has-been
wasting time with verse
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:54:00 pm
Snydz,

You obviously never saw Duff when he played, he is definitely an athlete.
He is also the reigning Hamm's Stiftungfestivities Shotgunning Champ.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 12:55:34 pm
Snydz,

You obviously never saw Duff when he played, he is definitely an athlete.
He is also the reigning Hamm's Stiftungfestivities Shotgunning Champ.

before that you can quote me as saying that i m not a poet, but an athlete

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 15, 2005, 01:00:02 pm
Injury free game Saturday for both  teams.

You Monmouth folks knew this was coming, didn't you?
You see the umpteen posts on the MIAC board.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 15, 2005, 01:33:00 pm
Schnapps and hot cocoa
Serenaded by bagpipes
Eating my burger
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Touchdown Tommy on November 15, 2005, 01:40:27 pm
Can we get some info on Monmouth?  I don't know anything.  Spew some facts at me like: location, size of school, depts of excellence, good athletic programs, and how far of a drive it will be to Collegeville.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 15, 2005, 01:41:22 pm
Can we get some info on Monmouth?  I don't know anything.  Spew some facts at me like: location, size of school, depts of excellence, good athletic programs, and how far of a drive it will be to Collegeville.

Ahem...haiku please!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 01:44:53 pm
Bus Driver questions
but forgets to use haiku
he receives my smite
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 01:52:11 pm
umm you could maybe to to the Monmouth website lazy
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 15, 2005, 01:53:12 pm
Here ya go BD, I'll help you out. It's fun in a twisted literate way.


What's up with Monmouth?
Bus Driver needs some info
Scots tell him 'bout you.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 15, 2005, 01:56:40 pm
Bus Driver's lazy
Can't find Monmouth website
Snydz getting cranky
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 02:07:37 pm
Bus Driver's lazy
Can't find Monmouth website
Snydz getting cranky

LOL, nah not cranky, just curious as too how hard it is to research by yourself
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 15, 2005, 02:18:02 pm
Bus Driver's lazy
Can't find Monmouth website
Snydz getting cranky

LOL, nah not cranky, just curious as too how hard it is to research by yourself

Wait 'til you meet Bus.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 15, 2005, 02:31:12 pm
Shotgunning Hamms, FUN!
Monkey Stomp is guaranteed.
Mon Balls shrink in cold
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 02:34:16 pm
I talk of my Roush
but really drive a Chevette
Hi, my name is Snydz
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Touchdown Tommy on November 15, 2005, 02:36:07 pm
Yep fins is right.  I am the handsome guy in pink with a babe on each arm...  

You Monmouth guys sure aren't too accomodating!  I didnt feel like perusing your site to find a few simple details.  Sounds like you guys are cranky already and it is only Tuesday.  Just wait til Saturday evening...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Touchdown Tommy on November 15, 2005, 02:36:59 pm
Duffy,

You are entering a world of hurt.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 02:37:22 pm
I'll be the guy in pink with a babe on each arm...

Meet the babes and the busdriver:

(http://www.bethestaryouare.org/merlot,%20potbelly%20pig.jpg) (http://www.mypkhome.com/pig/pig-15.jpg)
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 15, 2005, 02:39:04 pm
At your service...

http://www.monm.edu/sportsinfo/football/index.htm
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 15, 2005, 02:43:06 pm
Dumo will run wild
Your D will get run over
Warm up the Greyhound
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 02:47:29 pm
I talk of my Rousch
but really drive a Chevette
Hi, my name is Snydz

It is Roush numb nuts
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 02:50:08 pm
and sorry you can't afford one!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 02:51:27 pm
and sorry you can't afford one!!!

Why would Duffman want to step down from his corvette and drive a Ford?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 15, 2005, 02:51:59 pm
I talk of my Rousch
but really drive a Chevette
Hi, my name is Snydz

It is Roush numb nuts

This talk of numb nuts
Coming from the mouth of Snydz
go dribble your balls ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 02:52:58 pm
a vette????  plz, can i get some competition here????  Everyone and their grandma has a vette, not everyone has a Roush!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 02:54:23 pm
Probably because no one wants a Roush.

Me thinks you watched the Fast and the Furious 12 times too many.


Hey, lets put $7,000 worth of parts on a car and call it a different name and then cry when it breaks down at 70,000 miles.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 02:57:49 pm
Probably because no one wants a Roush.

Me thinks you watched the Fast and the Furious 12 times too many.


Hey, lets put $7,000 worth of parts on a car and call it a different name and then cry when it breaks down at 70,000 miles.

thats funny b/c mien seems to be doing just fine at over 90,000 and getting better mileage than you new junker!!

But hey, I'm sorry to disappoint you since I will be unable to bring it to the game. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 03:00:27 pm
Actually, I drive a 97 cavalier and will probably have it for several more years, at least until I finish school. Hard to argue with 140k miles 36 MPG and never broken down.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 03:02:59 pm
nice, congrats.  i am out of school, and my first purchase was the Roush, and i get 32 mi/gal  not since i m supposed to only get 23
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 03:03:54 pm
Please, please, I roll in a Honda.  Your Roush have a big aluminum wing and a coffee can for a tailpipe?  You sound like that type of guy.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 03:06:33 pm
Sounds like a great first investment out of school, too.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: TC on November 15, 2005, 03:07:56 pm
Both teams wear red shirts.
One team fills theirs with talent.
The other?  Turkeys.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: TC on November 15, 2005, 03:09:38 pm
Sounds like a great first investment out of school, too.

Nothing like preparing for retirement by throwing your money towards a depreciating asset.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 03:09:52 pm
Sounds like a great first investment out of school, too.

Eh, why not?  I'm sure that if I were to bring it, the johnnie crowd might not show up to the game...just be in awww
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 03:11:47 pm
snydz-
Why does it not surprise me that you drive one of those peices of crap that has a freakin huge spoiler (for what reason, I have no idea) and with a "super-charged" engine with neon lights and thinks he is money?  Do you have those rockford-fosgate subs in the back too?  That's cool too because everyone thinks you're cool driving down the road.

Mighty Royal

umm well you are actually all wrong, not supercharged, no big stereo, just a standard Roush Stage 2
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 03:14:11 pm
What, not even supercharged??? What a waste of a Roush! I bet Mrs. Roush and her team of fairies are very disappointed in your lack of Roushness


At what mileage does a car and its owner realize that they are out of the braggable stage?

I could have sworn 50,000 was the cut-off for a car being sweet... unless it is a classic.  And no, the roush is not a classic.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 03:15:02 pm
but I would love to stay and chat about it, just ask some of the fellow scots about it.  I am off for a while so talk your crap about cars all you want...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 03:16:33 pm
I'll leave the car topic with the following:

My Accord is sweet
it's V-6 purrs like a cat
no wing for this guy

PS - no one cares about your car
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 03:19:54 pm
but I would love to stay and chat about it, just ask some of the fellow scots about it.  I am off for a while so talk your crap about cars all you want...

Must be someone at the drive thru.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: TC on November 15, 2005, 03:28:37 pm
Can't beat my Yukon.
Let's take your car to Whitewater,
I get 12 per gallon.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 15, 2005, 03:31:30 pm
but I would love to stay and chat about it, just ask some of the fellow scots about it.  I am off for a while so talk your crap about cars all you want...

Must be someone at the drive thru.

May I help you, sir?
Would you like to supersize?
Pay at the window.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 15, 2005, 05:16:18 pm
Whoa, whoa, whoa

Scots Nation must now come together to foil the evil empire. 

Darth Gagliardi will be defeated when he reveals to the young jedi Luke Tanney that he is his father.  Tanney will then unleash a barrage of light saber strikes to ChuHaffner, to stun the empire.  The final blow will be struck by the Armada of Destroyers, MC's defense (if you dont know you better ask somebody, quick fast and in a hurry). 

Domino's may have good D
You dont want to piss of Zigs
Gagliardi's Offense should get down and/or step out....

MC Football in 05, Shock the world baby!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 15, 2005, 05:37:14 pm
Domino's may have good D
You dont want to piss of Zigs
Gagliardi's Offense should get down and/or step out....

Learn the rules of the haiku!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 15, 2005, 05:47:22 pm
I think that was called, "freestyle."   ;)

First line, 5 syllables
Second line, 7 syllables
Third line, 5 syllables

v
v
v

Sev'ral days away
Scots and Johnnies are restless
And so are the fans
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 15, 2005, 05:47:40 pm
Some teachers think children should be taught to write haiku that conform to these rigid specifications. I disagree. The essence of haiku is the way it describes natural phenomena in the fewest number of words, making an indelible impression on the reader. The artistic effect, to me, is much more important than the number of syllables.

Bruce Lansky....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 15, 2005, 05:48:12 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 06:28:45 pm
but I would love to stay and chat about it, just ask some of the fellow scots about it.  I am off for a while so talk your crap about cars all you want...

Must be someone at the drive thru.

May I help you, sir?
Would you like to supersize?
Pay at the window.

ritz your my idol...thanks for putting my pic up..now everyone will know who i am when they see me the game!!!  I will be more popular with your fans than your own team!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 15, 2005, 07:17:45 pm
200 - Goodnight now!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: lfcsports on November 15, 2005, 07:40:29 pm
MIAC goons
Use too many syllables
We've got better schools

Yes, I am aware
Haiku can be more free-form
But it's fun to jab

Watch out for Tanney
Second-highest pass rating
In Division III
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 07:48:43 pm
It is so easy
To put up outstanding stats
When you play chump teams

The only thing that
Your conference does thats worthwhile
Packer Cheerleaders

Your season soon ends
Enjoy the long offseason
Better luck next year
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sjusection105 on November 15, 2005, 07:52:55 pm
I didn't know AO drives a roush and switched his name to snydz

Mighty Royal

MR: I karmalized you for that one ;)  Too bad he doesn't know AO
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sjusection105 on November 15, 2005, 07:54:06 pm
Sounds like a great first investment out of school, too.

Nothing like preparing for retirement by throwing your money towards a depreciating asset.

TC you are a wise man. I karmalized you for that one ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScotsR BetterThanU on November 15, 2005, 08:07:25 pm
Anybody in Minn. a weatherman because it looks like us Scots are gonna be driving up in some pretty bad weather. What are they saying closer to you about snow? Any info on that would be appreciated.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 15, 2005, 08:10:22 pm
All I can say is I hope the F*ing Scots put up a better fight on the field than their athletic supports have in this forum.  It's like Eddie Murphy's welfare kid at MacDonald's routine around here!  "I drive a hotted up car, and youooooouuuu don't."

And what's up with the Japenese poetry?  The F*ing Scots should be doing plays on Oor Wullie or such:

Fair fa' your rosy-cheekit face,
Your muckle buits, wi' broken lace,
Although you're always in disgrace,
An' get your spanks,
In all our hearts ye have your place,
Despite your pranks.

At least sounds like trash talk and Scottish.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 08:15:08 pm
Not sure about expected weather, but they usually do a pretty good job of keeping I-94 clear at least one lane of it.

St. John's campus is seriously less than a mile and a half off of the highway, so if you're going straight to SJU, you shouldn't have any problems. Its a fairly major county road and on gameday it will be clear.

Weather.com says rain and snow showers mixed on Friday and few snow showers with a high of 38 for Saturday, I trust weather forecasters as much as I trust the NCAA to make a reasonable playoff bracket.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 08:52:43 pm
Not sure about expected weather, but they usually do a pretty good job of keeping I-94 clear at least one lane of it.

St. John's campus is seriously less than a mile and a half off of the highway, so if you're going straight to SJU, you shouldn't have any problems. Its a fairly major county road and on gameday it will be clear.

Weather.com says rain and snow showers mixed on Friday and few snow showers with a high of 38 for Saturday, I trust weather forecasters as much as I trust the NCAA to make a reasonable playoff bracket.

thanks for the weather update
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 08:55:25 pm
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 08:57:47 pm
what about back roads?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 08:58:58 pm
Backroads are at your own risk. They get to 'em when they get to 'em. If a gov't employee doesn't live on your road it may be march.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Retired Old Rat on November 15, 2005, 09:03:15 pm
a vette????  plz, can i get some competition here????  Everyone and their grandma has a vette, not everyone has a Roush!!

I had a rousch once.  I went to the doctor and he game me an ointment.  Cleared it right up and it's never come back.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 15, 2005, 09:18:58 pm
Anyone thinking about POY's for the conf.
They seem like a lock to me and I'm not even for Monmouth

Offense- Tanney

Defense- Zigler

Might as well give it to Bell and take the sweep unless they feel for Belwa's Coach DeGeorge in his last season going 5-5
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sjusection105 on November 15, 2005, 09:23:23 pm
To all MWC posters:

Do you like Hamm's beer?
Central Minnesota Martinis?
1980's professional wrestling?
1980's sitcoms?
Shotgunning beers?
Deer hunting?
Marcia or Jan?
Ginger or Mary Ann?
Wilma or Betty?

This is how we (MIAC Board) get 460++ pages,plus we are all unemployed and live in our parents basements :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 09:29:16 pm
ROR,

Saw a guy in the weightroom at school today wearing a Gluek's shirt!

He said he got it from a friend and had no idea where Cold Spring was. I was rather disappointed.

Did you know Gluek's offers free tours?  http://www.gluek.com/events.html
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 15, 2005, 09:31:54 pm
For St. Johns fans, there were only 2 teams with more than 6 wins in our conf.  Monmouth and St. Norbert (8-2).  They are the only teams in the conf. that would be able to do anything, given the chance.  They are head and shoulders above anyone else in this conf.  2 other teams had 6 wins and 5 teams finished under .500, there is a long way to go before parity is reached in this conf, but it has been discussed before on this board and most schools won't sacrifice academics in order to build a program.  Football isn't a high priority around most of the schools.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 09:35:38 pm
For St. Johns fans, there were only 2 teams with more than 6 wins in our conf.  Monmouth and St. Norbert (8-2).  They are the only teams in the conf. that would be able to do anything, given the chance.  They are head and shoulders above anyone else in this conf.  2 other teams had 6 wins and 5 teams finished under .500, there is a long way to go before parity is reached in this conf, but it has been discussed before on this board and most schools won't sacrifice academics in order to build a program.  Football isn't a high priority around most of the schools.

I agree Scout, and since most of our schools are not near major university to get the dropouts.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Retired Old Rat on November 15, 2005, 09:39:45 pm
To all MWC posters:

Do you like Hamm's beer?
Central Minnesota Martinis?
1980's professional wrestling?
1980's sitcoms?
Shotgunning beers?
Deer hunting?
Marcia or Jan?
Ginger or Mary Ann?
Wilma or Betty?

This is how we (MIAC Board) get 460++ pages,plus we are all unemployed and live in our parents basements :D

not the questions to ask....

Soda or pop?
Bud or MGD?
Bud light or Miller Lite?
Bud Select or Miller High Life?
Popcorn or Peanuts?

we love to eat in the MWC and drink beer.  screw the 80's nonsense


Snydz822121, we wait with great anticipation your coming appearance in Collegeville this weekend.  It is a good thing you have made us all aware of your impending presence and your overwhelming coolness.  We do not pretend to be worthy; but we do hope to bask in your glow for this one day.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 09:41:54 pm
I agree Scout, and since most of our schools are not near major university to get the dropouts.

What is that supposed to mean?

SJU is 90 miles from the U of MN on the map and multiple echelons above them from an academic perspective.

I would hope you know better than to start ripping on the academic integrity and rigor of the MIAC. We had one of the 3 DIII honorees for The National Football Foundation & College Hall of Fame National scholar athlete class, Matt Hawn who has a 4.0 or damn near in Biology and pre-dentistry courses. Our stud d-lineman? Biochem and Mathematics double major.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 15, 2005, 09:43:20 pm

This is how we (MIAC Board) get 460++ pages,plus we are all unemployed and live in our parents basements :D


At St. Johns, you also have as many posters for your team as this whole confrence does with 10 teams.  Nearly all of the posters are from MC and SNC, with very few inbetween.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 09:49:03 pm
We usually start out with a fair number of posters from other schools besides SJU talking up their school and how they will beat SJU.

Once their team plays SJU, they fade away rapidly. Some concordia fans have stuck around mostly because of the close game and because they're in the playoffs too.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 09:56:55 pm
eh, **** happens...am i supposed to be scured???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScotsR BetterThanU on November 15, 2005, 09:57:41 pm
"It is a rough road that leads to the heights of greatness."
-Seneca, Roman Statesman

Nobody said it would be easy Scots but you got the chance. Capitalize on it!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 15, 2005, 09:58:33 pm
I would say at least 3 or 4 teams are not represented and if schools are only by a few posters besides the big 2, well it was  mostly 2 until the early success of SNC this year.  When that happened most all quit posting except Monmouth fans.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 10:15:42 pm
hey scout what school did/do you go to?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 10:20:14 pm
Snydz822121, we wait with great anticipation your coming appearance in Collegeville this weekend.  It is a good thing you have made us all aware of your impending presence and your overwhelming coolness.  We do not pretend to be worthy; but we do hope to bask in your glow for this one day.


well i am sure that you will find me...i won't be hard to see with my glow
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 15, 2005, 11:19:12 pm
Hey Kilted...I stuck around after BU lost?  Where are the props?  ???

Mighty Royal

I karmalize you at every opportunity! What more props does a nerd like you need than to be rewarded with mythical points?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 15, 2005, 11:23:27 pm
Hey Snydz,
You want to talk about academics?  I played football and soccer for Bethel and was a Chemistry (B.S.) Major...I graduated with a 3.59 which I think is pretty respectable in Chemistry.  Duffman was also a Chemistry major and a great football player for SJU.  If you want to compare academic standards between conferences, by all means, but I am just warning you that you won't fair to well against us MIACers...by the way Kilted is a very smart cookie...he will own you like his little red headed step child!

Mighty Royal

you played football and soccer?  thats kinda an oxymoron isn't it?  But if you want to get into the sport playing, I played 3 sports at Monmouth, Football Basketball and Baseball.  Congrats on the Chemistry major and the GPA.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: repete on November 15, 2005, 11:25:18 pm
Gosh, I love it when the ``we're smarter in the xxx conference or xxx program so we aren't as good at football'' themes begin. That and criticizing spelling are the defenses of last resort for lame posters.

What is really hilarious in this case, is that you don't really want to go there.  Since an MWC poster brought academics up, Monmouth's average ACT would put it at the dead bottom of the MIAC -- and several notches below the rest of the league.

Please pick another reason for the upcoming loss.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 15, 2005, 11:37:37 pm
thanks for the idolizing snydz!!! ;D

Weather-wise...tonight is a real bitch in Central MN...30 degrees with 45-50 mh gusts....freezing rain, a real mess!  Good thing the traveling is not going on tonight or tomorrow.

It is supposed to be in the mid-upper 30's Friday maybe nearing low 40's...might be a good idea to get an early start..

Like Kilted said, 94 is a usually in good shape, but safe bet is to get to wherer you need to go before too late
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 15, 2005, 11:42:25 pm
For St. Johns fans, there were only 2 teams with more than 6 wins in our conf.  Monmouth and St. Norbert (8-2).  They are the only teams in the conf. that would be able to do anything, given the chance.  They are head and shoulders above anyone else in this conf.  2 other teams had 6 wins and 5 teams finished under .500, there is a long way to go before parity is reached in this conf, but it has been discussed before on this board and most schools won't sacrifice academics in order to build a program.  Football isn't a high priority around most of the schools.

I agree Scout, and since most of our schools are not near major university to get the dropouts.

You must be refering to some teams in your neck of the woods with those statements... ???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 15, 2005, 11:54:25 pm
Prediction....any time now someone will suggest
'Why don't you go back to your own board?"

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScotsR BetterThanU on November 15, 2005, 11:58:57 pm
No hitting pansy.....Eh lets not go there. Prepare how you will.  I’ll end the night with another quote. If you can get this one you are a true 80s movie fan. “You gonna make a wave this year?”   Don’t be satisfied Scots. Keep rollin! Make your wave.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 16, 2005, 01:28:37 am
To all MWC posters:

Do you like Hamm's beer?
Central Minnesota Martinis?
1980's professional wrestling?
1980's sitcoms?
Shotgunning beers?
Deer hunting?
Marcia or Jan?
Ginger or Mary Ann?
Wilma or Betty?

This is how we (MIAC Board) get 460++ pages,plus we are all unemployed and live in our parents basements :D

sjusection105 - I'll oblige you, climb onto the hot seat, and answer all the tough questions.  Here goes...
I'd take some Hamm's beers
Don't know the Central Minnesota martinis, sorry
Grew up on the 80's wrestling!
Some 80's sitcoms ok, some not so good
Shotgunning beers, hell yes!
Deer hunting, never been--would rather go after a bear ;D
Marcia, or maybe both--is that an option?
Toss-up between Ginger and Mary Ann
Wilma all the way

Prediction....any time now someone will suggest
'Why don't you go back to your own board?"

DenSLA - I feel like I'm just the guy to make a suggestion at this point, just not the one you predicted.  My suggestion is to forget all the car nonsense, the who played how many sports at what school, the "our conference's schools are smarter than your conference's schools" crap, and all the rest of the stuff that doesn't matter.  The smack talking from Monday was pretty creative; other than a few good haikus today (Tuesday), there wasn't much here.  I'm hoping it bounces back in tomorrow's posts, get some more haikus and other creative thoughts (I know you Minnesota guys have lots of free time on your hands at this point of the year to come up with witty remarks since you're probably spending alot of time inside right now since it's getting so damn cold out), and maybe a few posts will even discuss the actual football game! :D

Weather-wise...tonight is a real bitch in Central MN...30 degrees with 45-50 mh gusts....freezing rain, a real mess!  Good thing the traveling is not going on tonight or tomorrow.

It is supposed to be in the mid-upper 30's Friday maybe nearing low 40's...might be a good idea to get an early start..

Like Kilted said, 94 is a usually in good shape, but safe bet is to get to wherer you need to go before too late

ritz72 - Similar weather down here in west-central Illinois tonight.  Temp is around 30 degrees and winds around 40 mph, just don't have the freezing rain right now.  The rain ended before it got really chilly outside.  Good to hear that I-94 is usually in good shape, because I'm not gonna be able to get much of an early start on Friday... >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: TRU on November 16, 2005, 07:04:50 am
How to write Haiku-----From a Japanese master

In Japanese, the rules for how to write Haiku are clear, and will not be discussed—( In other words they are too complex for most you who post on this board).  In foreign languages, there exist NO consensus in how to write Haiku-poems. Anyway, let's take a look at the basic knowledge:

What to write about?

Haiku-poems can describe almost anything, but you seldom find themes, which are too complicated for normal PEOPLE's recognition and understanding. (Translation after a 30 pack of Hamm’s you must still be able to comprehend the meaning of the poem.) Some of the most thrilling Haiku-poems describe daily situations in a way that gives the reader a brand new experience of a well-known situation. ( Like having a Monkey Stomp put on you by SJU)

The metrical pattern of Haiku---

Haiku-poems consist of respectively 5, 7 and 5 syllables in three units. In Japanese, this convention is a must, but in English, which has variation in the length of syllables, this can sometimes be difficult. ( Or impossible when you are on the second 30 pack)

The technique of cutting--

The cutting divides the Haiku into two parts, with a certain imaginative distance between the two sections, but the two sections must remain, to a degree, independent of each other. Both sections must enrich the understanding of the other.
To make this cutting in English, either the first or the second line ends normally with a colon, long dash or ellipsis. (or as seen her all to often a thud)

The seasonal theme---.

Each Haiku must contain a kigo, a season word, ( like Monkey Stomp) which indicate in which season the Haiku is set. For example, cherry blossoms indicate spring, snow indicate winter, and mosquitoes indicate summer, but the season word isn't always that obvious. ( You guys fill in the blanks here)


Please notice that Haiku-poems are written under different rules and in many languages. For translated Haiku-poems, the translator must decide whether he should obey the rules strictly, or if he should present the exact essence of the Haiku. For Haiku-poems originally written in English, the poet should be more careful. ( Posters are always careful or are they just always full - I forget which?)  These are the difficulties, and the pleasure of Haiku.



Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 08:25:40 am
Has anyone seen my claymore???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 08:46:44 am
Has anyone seen my claymore???

Walk around your back yard, you might step on it!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 08:53:36 am
you might want to look up claymore.   I think that Scots Nation will be bringing a few


Walk around your back yard, you might step on it!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 09:01:56 am
Does it come in dartboard size?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Buckman on November 16, 2005, 09:03:56 am
Snydz - no reason to be bringing swords to football games!  I think you'll find out we're quite an amicable bunch.  However, maybe there's a way of incorporating one of your claymore's into the Hamm's shotgunning competition on Saturday.  Maybe it could be used as the can puncturing device.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Retired Old Rat on November 16, 2005, 09:04:04 am
Advice to Mr. Perfect:

Don’t Bring a Knife to a Gun Fight.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 09:06:06 am
Wait, you're bringing explosive devices to the game?  I think Life Safety Services will frown upon that :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 16, 2005, 09:24:40 am
Part of my post from Monday morning...

"And, finally... Congrats to the Scots and good luck against St. John's - one of the most storied programs in DIII football.  And, from the posts that I've read so far, some of the classiest fans."

Looks like I was way off on this one...

Looking forward to the webcast.  Good luck Scots!

Scottie
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 09:25:14 am
you might want to look up claymore.   I think that Scots Nation will be bringing a few


Walk around your back yard, you might step on it!!!! ;D

Thanks for the advice.... I did!

The M18 Claymore, a directional fragmentation mine, is 8-1/2 inches long, 1-3/8 inches wide, 3-1/4 inches high, and weighs 3-1/2 pounds. The mine contains 700 steel spheres (10.5 grains) and 1-1/2 pound layer of composition C-4 explosive and is initiated by a No. 2 electric blasting cap. The M18 command-detonated mine may be employed with obstacles or on the approaches, forward edges, flanks and rear edges of protective minefields as close-in protection against a dismounted Infantry attack.



Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 16, 2005, 09:26:35 am
Looks like I was way off on this one...

Someone has no concept of fun trash-talking.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 09:29:45 am
It's not that fun when you realize that your team will be entering the "Gates of Hell!"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 09:34:11 am
Part of my post from Monday morning...

"And, finally... Congrats to the Scots and good luck against St. John's - one of the most storied programs in DIII football.  And, from the posts that I've read so far, some of the classiest fans."

Looks like I was way off on this one...

Looking forward to the webcast.  Good luck Scots!

Oh Come now Scottie----This is fun!  It's only Wednesday....The way things work in the MIAC board is that no true football talk starts until Friday night!

Scottie
;D

We are all in fun, and if you talk to the RPI guys in the LL, you will know that all this going on is trash talking and when you show up on Saturday, you'll be welcomed to Collegeville with a "hi", a Hamms, and a great burger!!!

Weather update from central MN ---- 25 degrees with gusts around 30 mph!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 09:35:01 am
And,

We are all DI dropout posters ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 16, 2005, 09:53:41 am
Wolves in sheep's clothing....  Or, Hamms in a Samuel Adams bottle.  ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 16, 2005, 09:54:35 am
Hey man, just be thankful we're willing to talk to you. ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 16, 2005, 09:57:12 am
I just don't think that people on our board are used to the board turning over 20 times in 3 days, usually it only turns over at most 2 times a week.  I like the competitiveness out of the MIAC, its something that isn't here for most teams.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 16, 2005, 10:01:25 am
that and lots of fans who care about their team, high school teams get better crowds than most of this conf.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 16, 2005, 10:08:55 am
Wolves in sheep's clothing....  Or, Hamms in a Samuel Adams bottle.  ;)

I like that one, Scottie.
Yeah, we're all nuts. But you're in for a thrill if you come to Collegeville Saturday. Weather's looking up a bit - 40 and sunny? A little sun and no wind makes a big difference when you're standing outside all day.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 10:19:51 am
Snydz - no reason to be bringing swords to football games!  I think you'll find out we're quite an amicable bunch.  However, maybe there's a way of incorporating one of your claymore's into the Hamm's shotgunning competition on Saturday.  Maybe it could be used as the can puncturing device.

what other reson would it be brought for?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 10:21:35 am
It's not that fun when you realize that your team will be entering the "Gates of Hell!"

St. Johns is Hades?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 10:25:35 am
thanks for the smite johnnies...

how much snow fell at st. johns last night?  any?  any word on how much will be on the ground by friday?  kickoff?

I'm sure it is snowing there, since I am in Ohio and we have snow flurries, no accumulation though

Now I have 2 pics on here!  Am I Mr. Popular with the Johnnie crowd?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: retagent on November 16, 2005, 10:27:31 am
Regarding the Claymore. It is, as was mentioned earlier, designed as a directional explosive device. It was designed with MWC fans in mind in that on the "business" side of the arced mine it has the words "THIS SIDE TOWARD ENEMY" Believe it or not!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 16, 2005, 10:30:54 am
Snydz - You da Man! Don't take the smites personally. Some smite just for the sport of it. If you really want to get your karma going in a positive direction, I'd suggest sucking up a little more. Like learn the Johnnie Fight Song. Playing it on the pipes would almost guarantee you points.

Oh, and minimal snow. The field and the roads should be clear. Bring your roush Pinto.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 10:35:11 am
Nah, the Roush stays at home...getting cold out there, can't drive it in the cold.  and I would show pic, bu they are too big.  so sorry if you dont believe me.

I do not know how to play the pipes, although if I did, I wouldn't have to pay for college.....maybe I should go back to Monmouth when I learn how to play the pipes.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 10:35:48 am
Snydz - You da Man! Don't take the smites personally. Some smite just for the sport of it. If you really want to get your karma going in a positive direction, I'd suggest sucking up a little more. Like learn the Johnnie Fight Song. Playing it on the pipes would almost guarantee you points.

Oh, and minimal snow. The field and the roads should be clear. Bring your roush Pinto.

is there snow in the forcast for today, tomorrow, friday, sat??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 10:42:12 am
Snydz,

If you're worried about the field, its turf and they literally plow it clean. It becomes a bit slippery but not too bad.


Where in Ohio you from? Grew up in Mansfield myself (halfway between Cleveland and Columbus). The drive from OH to MN is pretty straightforward. Message me if you want directions (80/90 to Madison, 94 from there on)/cop hotspots etc.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Buckman on November 16, 2005, 10:47:14 am
We got very minimal snow here.  They're talking about a chance of snow again on Saturday, but who knows.  Forecast as of now for Saturday is 42 with 40% chance of snow and 10-15 mph winds (won't play much of a factor down in the bowl).
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 11:03:24 am
Sun is peeking out!

Liking the forcast for Saturday!!  Ritz and the "Ritz Bitz" will be wearing the armor!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on November 16, 2005, 11:09:38 am
Chris, great pic of Snydz.
Lots of stuff to keep up with, I have classes all day and by the time lunch comes around, i am behind.
Hope all is well up in the tundra.  Monmouth is ready to play spoiler, unfortunatly I will not be attending the festival. Every one please have a Hamm's (in Hartford, WI, you can buy one get one free cases of that stuff) for me.
GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 11:14:33 am
Hartford, WI right on 60. Last stop for gas pretty much until you hit the beautiful town of Hustisford, better known for Radloff's cheese and the Toilet Bowl!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 11:18:04 am
Chris, great pic of Snydz.
Lots of stuff to keep up with, I have classes all day and by the time lunch comes around, i am behind.
Hope all is well up in the tundra.  Monmouth is ready to play spoiler, unfortunatly I will not be attending the festival. Every one please have a Hamm's (in Hartford, WI, you can buy one get one free cases of that stuff) for me.
GO SCOTS!



Buy one get one on Hamms!!!!

Can anyone say "ROADTRIP!!!"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 16, 2005, 11:18:45 am
OMG I havent heard of Hustisford in a long time... one of the worst HS football teams ever
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 16, 2005, 11:19:16 am
HAMMS!  The only thing that can take one's mind off the crappy weather in Minn. is a beer that tastes that bad.

Next thing you know they'll start bragging about Red Stripe or Grain Belt.

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 11:19:26 am
Snydz,

If you're worried about the field, its turf and they literally plow it clean. It becomes a bit slippery but not too bad.


Where in Ohio you from? Grew up in Mansfield myself (halfway between Cleveland and Columbus). The drive from OH to MN is pretty straightforward. Message me if you want directions (80/90 to Madison, 94 from there on)/cop hotspots etc.

I am in Oxford, OH kilt
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 11:22:47 am
HAMMS!  The only thing that can take one's mind off the crappy weather in Minn. is a beer that tastes that bad.

Next thing you know they'll start bragging about Red Stripe or Grain Belt.

GO SCOTS!
Mc--

I'm sure you are a great guy, but I HAD to smite you for speaking such blastphamy!! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 16, 2005, 11:24:27 am
With all of that Hamms, are the port-a-Johnnies adequately stocked with paper - if you know what I mean?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 11:29:36 am
With all of that Hamms, are the port-a-Johnnies adequately stocked with paper - if you know what I mean?

There are adequate facilities behing the "double wide-double tall"  with advertising and all...

Ask the Bus about Pregnancy Testing! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 11:32:18 am
Next thing you know they'll start bragging about Red Stripe or Grain Belt.

While Hamm's was born in MN, it is a Wisconsin-made beer, now.  Grain Belt is a MN beer, and one of my favorites.  Don't talk bad about it.  Red Stripe?  How did a Jamaican beer even cross your mind?  It's a mighty fine beer, too, though.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 11:34:30 am
Never had a Hamm's...must be like a Natty Light
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 11:37:41 am
OMG I havent heard of Hustisford in a long time... one of the worst HS football teams ever

HEY!! My dad played for Husti in the early 70's!  It's hard for a town of 600 (1000 now) to field a halfway decent football team!


SNYdz,

You going to Miami? My sis is junior down there. Pretty sweet school and town, almost went there.
Hamm's is nothing like Natty light. Natty light sucks  Hamm's is like nectar from the Gods
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 16, 2005, 11:39:33 am
This just in from the award winning MC SID staff:

TANNEY EARNS ACADEMIC HONOR
      Mitch Tanney (Lexington, Ill./Lexington) was honored for his athletic and academic excellence by being named to the ESPN The Magazine Academic All-District V College Division first team. His name will now be placed on the national ballot for ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American.

      Tanney helped lead the 10-0 Fighting Scots to their first outright conference title since 1972 and the school’s first-ever NCAA playoff berth.

      A six-time Dean’s List recipient, Tanney has held the nation’s top pass efficiency rating in Division III this season, and his 192.86 mark is currently second in DIII and third among all divisions. The Fighting Scots have set new team marks this season for scoring (444), touchdowns (62) and fewest interceptions thrown (3).

      Tanney also volunteers as a Spanish instructor at local schools and helps with Special Olympics.

      The ESPN The Magazine Academic All-District V team is voted on by sports information directors from District V, which includes Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Wisconsin and two Canadian provinces. Athletes must earn a minimum 3.20 cumulative GPA, have achieved at least sophomore status at their respective school and be a starter or key reserve in order to be nominated for the post-season honor. Only first team all-district athletes are eligible to be placed on the national ballot.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 16, 2005, 11:41:00 am
OMG I havent heard of Hustisford in a long time... one of the worst HS football teams ever

HEY!! My dad played for Husti in the early 70's!  It's hard for a town of 600 (1000 now) to field a halfway decent football team!


SNYdz,

You going to Miami? My sis is junior down there. Pretty sweet school and town, almost went there.
Hamm's is nothing like Natty light. Natty light sucks  Hamm's is like nectar from the Gods


Then your dad's teams got monkey stomped pretty good
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 11:46:09 am
Kubiack,

Probably, how else does a team have him starting at QB and SS as a 5'6 sophmore? (6' by junior year)

His main focus was baseball anyway. Knocked off Watertown a time or two back in the days before schools were divided into groups based on enrollment.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 11:54:43 am
Snydz, are you dating Kilted Rat's sister?  I hear that she's a fine piece of booty.

Congrats to the Scot's Tanney.  That's something to be proud of!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 11:56:25 am
As long as we're bragging up awards, check this (http://www.gojohnnies.com/football/espnallacademic.htm) out.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 12:01:57 pm
Snydz, are you dating Kilted Rat's sister?  I hear that she's a fine piece of booty.

Congrats to the Scot's Tanney.  That's something to be proud of!

I dont think I am dating his sister....dont know who she is?  sorority?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 12:05:33 pm
Snydz, are you dating Kilted Rat's sister?  I hear that she's a fine piece of booty.

Congrats to the Scot's Tanney.  That's something to be proud of!

She's not dating anyone that I know of.... She's not in any sorority.

Her name's Jenny.

Duffman, no clue where you got that info from... TDT's the only one you would know who has met her and him judging women is like Richard Simmons judging a slam dunk contest; neither one knows anything about or has any interest in the subject.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 12:06:59 pm
does she hit up the rec center?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 12:07:26 pm
what does she look like?  measurements?  hair color?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Retired Old Rat on November 16, 2005, 12:08:34 pm
does she hit up the rec center?

KR, I am anxiously awaiting your response to this one.  Could he tee it up any
higher for you? ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 12:10:03 pm
Don't think she hits up the rec cenetr all that much based on current athletic appearance relative to high school.

She's about 5'9, 5'10 brown hair. Looks nothing like me (lucky for her).


She doesn't date athletes.... so maybe you are dating her ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 12:20:45 pm
your right, i m no longer an athlete so maybe i am dating her
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 16, 2005, 12:27:14 pm
D-Man.  Good article.  Congrats to the SJU awardees.  Tanney was on that list as well.

I think Chuck Woolery is planning to enter this board... 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 12:32:39 pm
D-Man.  Good article.  Congrats to the SJU awardees.  Tanney was on that list as well.

I think Chuck Woolery is planning to enter this board... 

God willing!


(http://www.curtalliaume.com/wof06.jpg) (http://www.susanstafford.org/images/Chuck.jpg)
And the finale:(http://www.theoinquirer.com/chuckwoolery.jpg)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 12:35:25 pm
I think we would all be in over heads if he was on the list.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 12:46:55 pm
Duffman, no clue where you got that info from...

I'm just basing it off the fact that's you're such a handsome gentleman.  Maybe you could post a picture of her for all to see?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 16, 2005, 01:03:54 pm
Duffman,

No disrepect to Grain Belt.  Mighty fine brew, if you're broke and thirsty. (which I was every time I partied in Minn.)

As for the Red Stripe comment...I couldn't think of a nastier tasting beer.  But I digress...beer is beer if you drink enough Captain Morgan!

GO SCOTS!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 16, 2005, 01:04:57 pm
Snydz, I thought you were dating a Roush.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 01:08:18 pm
Why does Tanney think he's tough in his roster photo? Snydz, is he just jealous you have a better roush than he does?

Mighty Royal

i dont think so, i guess when you took your pic you were all smiles?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 01:08:51 pm
Snydz, I thought you were dating a Roush.

shhh
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 16, 2005, 01:09:13 pm
Quote
his 192.86 mark is currently second in DIII

Good job.

Who is #1?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 01:10:14 pm
McAlum77,

You must be smoking crack.
  
Grain Belt is actually pretty spendy these days.  Now, if you drank it out of cans, I'll agree that it's crap.  Out of a bottle, thought, it's an excellant beer.  It's changed a little since it was bought by Schells, but it's still a great choice.

I can think of plenty of nastier tasting beers than Red Stripe.  Pretty much anything light, to start off with.  And pretty much anything made by Anheiser Busch.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 01:10:55 pm
Duffman,

No disrepect to Grain Belt.  Mighty fine brew, if you're broke and thirsty. (which I was every time I partied in Minn.)

As for the Red Stripe comment...I couldn't think of a nastier tasting beer.  But I digress...beer is beer if you drink enough Captain Morgan!

GO SCOTS!

You were broke Madd Dogg?  You are a rich bastard
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 16, 2005, 01:11:43 pm
How about those lovely west coast beers such as olympia... yum
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Retired Old Rat on November 16, 2005, 01:13:33 pm
How about those lovely west coast beers such as olympia... yum

Beer Trivia:  Olympia bought Hamms in the 70's.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 16, 2005, 01:17:44 pm
but hamms was reclaimed by the miller brewing co.

In 1980 Olympia merged with Pabst, which was acquired by Stroh's in 1984 and it by Miller Brewing in 1999.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 16, 2005, 01:22:42 pm
Snydz, I'm not the one buying a "nice" car without a job.  Man was that hard to type with a straight face.

Duffman, I gave up crack some time ago.  Never had the Belt in a bottle.  I guess it has been a while since I bought it up there.  I'm with you on the Bud products, though.

All this talk about beer is making me thirsty.
MMMM, beer. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 01:24:55 pm
Snydz, I'm not the one buying a "nice" car without a job. Man was that hard to type with a straight face.

Duffman, I gave up crack some time ago. Never had the Belt in a bottle. I guess it has been a while since I bought it up there. I'm with you on the Bud products, though.

All this talk about beer is making me thirsty.
MMMM, beer.

surprised you are not getting hungry
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 01:26:35 pm
prove it
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 16, 2005, 01:29:55 pm
You know, PBR won a blue ribbon. Mmmm...PBR...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on November 16, 2005, 01:38:31 pm
PBR ME ASAP.  Drink a thirty pack of that stuff and your ass will hurt for weeks.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 01:44:31 pm
any washer games during the tailgating?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 01:52:02 pm
any washer games during the tailgating?

Called Polish Horseshoes in this neck of the woods....Usually a "gametime decision"..

The game of choice in the pregame is Shotgunning! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 01:53:30 pm
any washer games during the tailgating?

Called Polish Horseshoes in this neck of the woods....Usually a "gametime decision"..

The game of choice in the pregame is Shotgunning! ;D


no problem with that game
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 01:55:45 pm
I'll have hang-your-balls aka polish golf aka ladder golf along.  If there's interest, we'll play.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 01:57:06 pm
Snydz---

See, now we are playing nice.  That is our style in the MIAC..  Lay it on early, and coast to the finish!!!

Kind of like the game is going to be Saturday! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 02:09:03 pm
I am not a big shotgun player, i enjoy the beverage
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 16, 2005, 02:32:12 pm
http://www.midwestconference.org/FBALLall-conf05.pdf
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 02:38:21 pm
snydz how about some 2 on 2.   you and i verse all comers???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 16, 2005, 02:41:23 pm
Nice, Greg.

DenSLA - the QB from Linfield finished the regular season as the top rated QB in DIII.

Again, courtesy of the MC SID dept:

"Brett Elliott, had a big day in his team’s victory over Willamette. Elliott’s stats, which included 14-of-22 accuracy for 330 yards and four scores, moved him back ahead of Mitch Tanney and into the top spot in passing efficiency in DIII with a ranking of 195.6. Tanney is second at 192.9."

I'm guessing that Elliott, like Tanney did not play every minute of every game - or the numbers could have been even higher.  In Tanney's last game, he was 21-23 for 405 yards and 5 touchdowns, and he only played three quarters and only threw TWO passes in the second half.  That must be why he looks so tough in his picture.   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 02:46:16 pm
snydz how about some 2 on 2.   you and i verse all comers???

you think anyone can hold me?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 02:47:26 pm
Nice, Greg.

DenSLA - the QB from Linfield finished the regular season as the top rated QB in DIII.

Again, courtesy of the MC SID dept:

"Brett Elliott, had a big day in his team’s victory over Willamette. Elliott’s stats, which included 14-of-22 accuracy for 330 yards and four scores, moved him back ahead of Mitch Tanney and into the top spot in passing efficiency in DIII with a ranking of 195.6. Tanney is second at 192.9."

I'm guessing that Elliott, like Tanney did not play every minute of every game - or the numbers could have been even higher.  In Tanney's last game, he was 21-23 for 405 yards and 5 touchdowns, and he only played three quarters and only threw TWO passes in the second half.  That must be why he looks so tough in his picture.   >:(


never thought of that one scottie
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 02:48:29 pm
no, no one can hold you snydz....

you are the man ;D

just throw the lob ill go get it.

Hey HTF have you passed me in posts already?

And somebody please give me some positive karma, these negatives are bringin me down... ???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 02:49:07 pm
FloridaScot, or ScotsR BetterThanU,  when will get in town?  let me know
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 02:50:26 pm
no, no one can hold you snydz....

you are the man ;D

just throw the lob ill go get it.

Hey HTF have you passed me in posts already?

And somebody please give me some positive karma, these negatives are bringin me down... ???

screw the karma, thats all from the johnie boys...

let me get this straight, you want me to throw you a lob?  why can't I throw it off the board to myself like I usually do since I am a ballhog?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 02:52:03 pm
Just so you Johnnies know, you will be in great company on Saturday.

Farva will be in attendance!!!! :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 02:52:11 pm
I need positive karma!!!

Wait i just remembered i am in southern cali and it is 87 and not a cloud in the sky today.....

ahhh, thats better, im cool now 8)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 02:53:17 pm
http://www.midwestconference.org/FBALLall-conf05.pdf

125 players getting some kind of conference mention???  

Mommy, can we have a little more Kool-Aid powder, this is really watered down!!

From some of your posts earlier, with you MWC posters saying there were only 2 decent teams in the conference, how does that come about??


Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:07:34 pm
ritz72,

you are correct.  it doesnt make a whole lot of sense.  why would is there a need for 6 rb's (first and second team) and 8 wr's (first and second team) to be named all conference.  if you add in honorable mention, there is an opportunity for every starter (at rb or wr) in the conference to receive an all-conference selection.  kind of dilutes the award doesnt it.  In track n field you have to win your even to be all conference.  In football all you have to do is start on a team at rb or wr and you should be all conference.  weird....

nonetheless there are 16 Fighting Scots on the first or second team....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:09:32 pm
http://www.midwestconference.org/FBALLall-conf05.pdf

125 players getting some kind of conference mention???  

Mommy, can we have a little more Kool-Aid powder, this is really watered down!!

From some of your posts earlier, with you MWC posters saying there were only 2 decent teams in the conference, how does that come about??




eventhough there are only 2 decent teams, you dont think that the other teams might have A (1) decent player that the conference will give credit to?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:12:44 pm
Grinnell has 7 all-conference football players...

B.S.!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:13:53 pm
Grinnell = 7 players on all-conf ???  you are right that is B.S.  they must be screwing the committee
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 16, 2005, 03:14:06 pm
http://www.midwestconference.org/FBALLall-conf05.pdf

125 players getting some kind of conference mention??? 

Mommy, can we have a little more Kool-Aid powder, this is really watered down!!

From some of your posts earlier, with you MWC posters saying there were only 2 decent teams in the conference, how does that come about??




eventhough there are only 2 decent teams, you dont think that the other teams might have A (1) decent player that the conference will give credit to?

Sure, but the point of All-Conference is to recognize those players who are the very best at their positions. By recognizing everyone, it's really recognizing no one.

(An average of 3 RBs and 4 WRs on each of the first two teams? Must be backyard FB with only three blockers and a QB ;))
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 03:16:22 pm
http://www.midwestconference.org/FBALLall-conf05.pdf

125 players getting some kind of conference mention???  

Mommy, can we have a little more Kool-Aid powder, this is really watered down!!

From some of your posts earlier, with you MWC posters saying there were only 2 decent teams in the conference, how does that come about??




eventhough there are only 2 decent teams, you dont think that the other teams might have A (1) decent player that the conference will give credit to?

Maybe one, but your worst team gets 6, and the AVERAGE is 13 per team????  

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:17:58 pm
Snydz,
Prove that you have a "sweet" roush!

File is too big, my eye!

Mighty Royal

check your email
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:21:23 pm
this is called beating a dead horse, i agree the all-conference selections for the the MWC is way out of whack.  it makes no sense, 1 qb, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 1 te, 5 OL, 1 sp.  that should be first and second team O.  that would make the award special.  i shoulda went out for football at grinnell i know i could have been one of their top 7 players.  i missed out on being all-conference...... DAMN!!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:23:52 pm
http://www.midwestconference.org/FBALLall-conf05.pdf

125 players getting some kind of conference mention???  

Mommy, can we have a little more Kool-Aid powder, this is really watered down!!

From some of your posts earlier, with you MWC posters saying there were only 2 decent teams in the conference, how does that come about??




eventhough there are only 2 decent teams, you dont think that the other teams might have A (1) decent player that the conference will give credit to?

Maybe one, but your worst team gets 6, and the AVERAGE is 13 per team????  



I am not on the committee, I agree with everyone.  I know that the system is screwed up.  Monmouth had 4 of the top 5 if not the top 4 receivers when I was in school, and only 1 got first team, I don't think the others got anything higher than honorable mention
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:24:39 pm
this is called beating a dead horse, i agree the all-conference selections for the the MWC is way out of whack.  it makes no sense, 1 qb, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 1 te, 5 OL, 1 sp.  that should be first and second team O.  that would make the award special.  i shoulda went out for football at grinnell i know i could have been one of their top 7 players.  i missed out on being all-conference...... DAMN!!!!!

I can't believe you just said that Smoov....do you want to take that back?  please say yes.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 03:25:07 pm
check your email

I'm going to post a picture of my Honda!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:26:08 pm
"Monmouth had 4 of the top 5 if not the top 4 receivers when I was in school, and only 1 got first team, I don't think the others got anything higher than honorable mention"



good ol snydz tootin his own horn
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:26:22 pm
check your email

I'm going to post a picture of my Honda!!!

no one is gonna stop you
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:27:02 pm
"Monmouth had 4 of the top 5 if not the top 4 receivers when I was in school, and only 1 got first team, I don't think the others got anything higher than honorable mention"



good ol snydz tootin his own horn

dont forget about that practice where you couldnt stop a baby
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:29:01 pm
i aint takin back ish....

wait yea, i would never want to be associated with the pio's.  My bad.  but football all-conference would look good on my 5'8 150 frame.....

snydz, i can post a pic of my new malibu, just got it.  can you believe i sold smoov5?  the wife says the malibu is more "fuel efficient and practical." can you believe i fell for that ish.

im getttin soft
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:30:01 pm
i aint takin back ish....

wait yea, i would never want to be associated with the pio's.  My bad.  but football all-conference would look good on my 5'8 150 frame.....

snydz, i can post a pic of my new malibu, just got it.  can you believe i sold smoov5?  the wife says the malibu is more "fuel efficient and practical." can you believe i fell for that ish.

im getttin soft


you have always been soft...i want to see a pic of the malibu....you pimp it out??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:30:37 pm
ok, here we go, that one practice.  i know you'll never forget it.  let old dreams die!!  remember it was one practice within two years of flat out gettin dogged!!!

enjoy the memories 8)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:31:19 pm
ok, here we go, that one practice.  i know you'll never forget it.  let old dreams die!!  remember it was one practice within two years of flat out gettin dogged!!!

enjoy the memories 8)

do hate the player hate the game
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:32:28 pm
ok, here we go, that one practice.  i know you'll never forget it.  let old dreams die!!  remember it was one practice within two years of flat out gettin dogged!!!

enjoy the memories 8)

oh and you cant say 2 years b/c you and i both know i didnt practice when i was a freshman
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:32:38 pm
did i pimp it???

im still smoov baby!!

the malibu, 17'alloys, leather int., kenwood in the back, sunroof (buddy got it for me at cost), xm satelitte......
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:33:35 pm
"oh and you cant say 2 years b/c you and i both know i didnt practice when i was a freshman"

not my fault...  o wait, maybe it was :o
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:34:03 pm
thats better...glad to hear that it is not just a malibu, i might have to smack you if it was
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:35:26 pm
"oh and you cant say 2 years b/c you and i both know i didnt practice when i was a freshman"

not my fault...  o wait, maybe it was :o

im going to go with not your fault b/c we both know that you were not going to play..you just picked a bad time to go to MC


p.s. it is now snowing good here in ohio
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:36:21 pm
only problem is that the baby "bu" is white, wife's choice. had to trade the color for the wheels.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:36:58 pm
stop bringin up bad memories, i dont wanna talk about it.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:41:26 pm
says the unmarried man.......
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 16, 2005, 03:45:29 pm
Mr. Who?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:47:02 pm
snydz u said it is snowing there?  i think im goin to the beach after work!  I loved MC but i aint missin it....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:48:49 pm
snydz u said it is snowing there?  i think im goin to the beach after work!  I loved MC but i aint missin it....

eh, you will have that..you drive to the beach b/c this past summer i could just walk out the door and be on the beach, but not just any beach....panama city beach !!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:52:01 pm
u visit, i live...

u light me up one practice, i dominate u for two years....

to each his own, pimpin, to each his own....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:54:06 pm
u visit, i live...

u light me up one practice, i dominate u for two years....

to each his own, pimpin, to each his own....

that one practice seems to be the only thing that you remember me by too so....

you drive a malibu on 17 alloys,  I drive a Roush on 18" chrome
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 03:55:12 pm
i didnt visit I lived there the whole summer minus when i came back to the hoop camps
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 03:56:39 pm
why u gotta bring up the car, thats not fair..... i was all set to put Smoov5 on 20's before the wife started hatin....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 16, 2005, 03:57:14 pm
scottie...thank-you.  I had seen it on another board too.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:00:30 pm
why u gotta bring up the car, thats not fair..... i was all set to put Smoov5 on 20's before the wife started hatin....

you know that the 06 roushs are on 20's right?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 04:02:55 pm
i didnt visit I lived there the whole summer minus when i came back to the hoop camps

Snydz---was hoop camp before or after band camp?? ;D

Weather is sunny, wind is howling around 25 mph.  news just said the windchill is -10!! 

Snydz-- You getting to Minny on Friday night?  Where are the Scot Faithful staying?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 04:04:02 pm
so are the 06 yukons, so what..... ???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:05:02 pm
i didnt visit I lived there the whole summer minus when i came back to the hoop camps

Snydz---was hoop camp before or after band camp?? ;D

Weather is sunny, wind is howling around 25 mph.  news just said the windchill is -10!! 

Snydz-- You getting to Minny on Friday night?  Where are the Scot Faithful staying?

no band **** for me.....you i will be in Minn, staying somewhere close not sure where, want to get to the tailgating stuff around 830...it starts @ 8 right saturday morning?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:05:42 pm
so are the 06 yukons, so what..... ???

dont see too many muscle cars on 20's thats all
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 04:07:39 pm
i had my eyes on a charger r/t.  two years ( i tell myself) gotta buy the house next summer first.

the malibu is just to tide me over until then.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:09:49 pm
i had my eyes on a charger r/t.  two years ( i tell myself) gotta buy the house next summer first.

the malibu is just to tide me over until then.

the charger is not a good investment, too much money.  have you seen the new 06 camaro design?  talk about a sweet car.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 04:11:32 pm
i didnt visit I lived there the whole summer minus when i came back to the hoop camps

Snydz---was hoop camp before or after band camp?? ;D

Weather is sunny, wind is howling around 25 mph.  news just said the windchill is -10!! 

Snydz-- You getting to Minny on Friday night?  Where are the Scot Faithful staying?

no band **** for me.....you i will be in Minn, staying somewhere close not sure where, want to get to the tailgating stuff around 830...it starts @ 8 right saturday morning?

YEP!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 04:12:35 pm
everything should be too much money for you.  i mean your current occupation cant be that fruitful......

investment smeshment, the next ride will be strictly for raising my next (first) GQ spread.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:14:25 pm
here you go:

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3D2006%2BCamaro%26btn%3DYahoo%2521%2BSearch%26tab%3DImages%26fr%3Dmy-vert-img-top&h=480&w=640&imgcurl=www.popularhotrodding.com%2Ffeatures%2F0309phr-5camaro05_z.jpg&imgurl=www.popularhotrodding.com%2Ffeatures%2F0309phr-5camaro05_z.jpg&size=55.2kB&name=0309phr-5camaro05_z.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dodgeforum.com%2Ffb.asp%3Fm%3D16784&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dodgeforum.com%2Ffb.asp%3Fm%3D16784&p=2006+Camaro&type=jpeg&no=1&tt=38&ei=UTF-8
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 04:21:09 pm
That might be the longest URL I've ever seen.  Sweet car, though.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:21:45 pm
yea, sorry about that
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 04:23:02 pm
jesus......

i still like the 06 charger
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 16, 2005, 04:23:38 pm
www.tinyurl.com is your friend.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 04:27:46 pm
no our tight end does not dance....

100 baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:28:05 pm
jesus......

i still like the 06 charger


you called??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:28:26 pm
no our tight end does not dance....

100 baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

bout time
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 04:32:05 pm
my karma is getting better as well.....

up two points today!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 04:37:04 pm
how many points until i become a starter???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:41:08 pm
how many points until i become a starter???

200 posts i think
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 04:44:00 pm
well lets get posting, i have never backed down from a challenge....

snydz, talkin about bball, u talk to 12 or anyone else lately???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 16, 2005, 04:55:48 pm
I think the reason there are so many all conference players is because they don't wany any lawsuits.  If someone didn't make it, they would feel left out and emotionally scarred for life.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 16, 2005, 04:58:09 pm
geez, I thought this was a 'message board' not Instant Messaging.  Seems to me somebody (Snydz) needs a job and or a hobby, other than humping his cars like he's in a Whitesnake video.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 04:59:02 pm
well lets get posting, i have never backed down from a challenge....

snydz, talkin about bball, u talk to 12 or anyone else lately???

not really, talked to T-Mill the other day, he lives in chi-town now and practices with a college up there...havent talked to 12 in a long time.  T-Bone and I talked a few months ago..he is in Iraq shooting people...how about you?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 16, 2005, 05:00:17 pm
wany = want


wany doesn't = Wannstedt
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:00:39 pm
geez, I thought this was a 'message board' not Instant Messaging.  Seems to me somebody (Snydz) needs a job and or a hobby, other than humping his cars like he's in a Whitesnake video.

Madd Dogg, I hate you!!!  I might just have to take back all things that made you the madd dogg.  I am going to stop telling the stories
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:01:06 pm
lawsuits suck!!! >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:02:15 pm
naw, saw tmill and some of the younger guyz at the LFC game, but other than that have lost touch.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:02:47 pm
T-Mill showed me a couple pics of his new lady friend, and damn
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:03:10 pm
Score predictions for the game?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 16, 2005, 05:04:05 pm
Can't we all just get along.....maybe on Sat. we can sit around the tailgate and sing Kum By Ahh and share a Hamms..... ::)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:06:56 pm
Can't we all just get along.....maybe on Sat. we can sit around the tailgate and sing Kum By Ahh and share a Hamms..... ::)

that mean you will have enough Hamms to go around?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 16, 2005, 05:09:26 pm
You'll have to ask Duff on the beer, but I'll share what ever I bring. ;D  I'll have couple bottles of the good Dr. along for little pick me ups or for your hot choc. ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 16, 2005, 05:11:03 pm
relax Snydz.

Talk all the smack you want and brag about everything you've done.  Just remember where you came from and who showed you the ropes.

Someone's gotta tip back a Grain Belt for me.  I'll be in Chicago drinking away my sorrow from missing the game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:15:20 pm
relax Snydz.

Talk all the smack you want and brag about everything you've done.  Just remember where you came from and who showed you the ropes.

Someone's gotta tip back a Grain Belt for me.  I'll be in Chicago drinking away my sorrow from missing the game.

what ropes did you show? 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: McAlum77 on November 16, 2005, 05:18:24 pm
That hurts.  Now you're sounding like a certain someone from SNC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:22:25 pm
I am kidding.  The radio show was awesome, wish it was still going on...nothing like walking into ladies rooms and..ah...well you know the rest
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:23:07 pm
i too will be drinkin away my sorrow for missing the game.  the freaking webcast better work, it didnt for the snc game.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 05:25:41 pm
that mean you will have enough Hamms to go around?

What, you can afford a Roush but not $12 for a 30 pack of Hamm's?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:25:52 pm
i too will be drinkin away my sorrow for missing the game.  the freaking webcast better work, it didnt for the snc game.....

norbert is in wisconsin...i have faith that the Minnesotians know how to work things
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:27:47 pm

What, you can afford a Roush but not $12 for a 30 pack of Hamm's?

Yes I can afford it, I just havent finalized if I am going to bring a cooler, buy one there, etc.

Wuoldnt mind a cold one if I buy some to put on ice during the tailgating
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:28:09 pm
yes everything is f*ed up in wiscan-sin..
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:28:55 pm
Who misses their schools first playoff game??  let alone an ex-player and in ex-adminstrator
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:30:22 pm
ME!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:31:06 pm
MUF****r!!! >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:33:20 pm
no reason to get hostile... :P
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:35:36 pm
can I get a say who? say who?

or

better yet....maybe a trip down to the river!!!!

fine OFS....

They don't know......who we be....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:36:15 pm
NO
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 16, 2005, 05:37:38 pm

What, you can afford a Roush but not $12 for a 30 pack of Hamm's?

Yes I can afford it, I just havent finalized if I am going to bring a cooler, buy one there, etc.

Wuoldnt mind a cold one if I buy some to put on ice during the tailgating

You buy it cold in MN, and you wont need a cooler on Saturday!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:40:34 pm
naw but you can get a B***h ***** you can Neva Eva, eva eva, get on my level... ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:41:20 pm
naw but you can get a B***h ***** you can Neva Eva, eva eva, get on my level... ;D

ok that too
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:43:15 pm
thats my rally cry and im stickin too it, ill have it bumpin in the malibu all day saturday, and ill turn it up so that the Scots Nation can hear it in Minny....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 16, 2005, 05:43:47 pm
Do not show us a picture of M n M in a kilt, please.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:46:00 pm
I dont really have a battle cry other than....

you cant stop me...(it will be proven tonight at intramuals)

Thats funny that you say that Den...I was known on campus as Slim Shady himself.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:46:46 pm
yes slim, and yes shady, but slim shady :-\
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 05:53:35 pm
where u playin intramurals?  i am missing the MC three on three, this year was gonna be my year.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 05:55:11 pm
where u playin intramurals?  i am missing the MC three on three, this year was gonna be my year.

Miami OH....it is nice to have big guys that dunk over people
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 06:02:22 pm
big guys dunkin in intramurals, no way......

i got my ankles broke by an air force reservist at the base last weekend, he was actually trash talkin me about his playin days at fresno st.....  I scored the next 5 buckets then told him where he could find a nice spot on the side to watch me light up the next team to come on..... can you believe he wanted to fight me? me of all people?  he said i needed to learn to keep my mouth shut..... i said ok, then kept playin while he watched... from the side..... 8)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 06:06:08 pm
big guys dunkin in intramurals, no way......

i got my ankles broke by an air force reservist at the base last weekend, he was actually trash talkin me about his playin days at fresno st.....  I scored the next 5 buckets then told him where he could find a nice spot on the side to watch me light up the next team to come on..... can you believe he wanted to fight me? me of all people?  he said i needed to learn to keep my mouth shut..... i said ok, then kept playin while he watched... from the side..... 8)

wait, someone told you to shut up?  and it wasnt me?  let alone try to fight you...must a rough neck of the woods.  Last night just playing a pick up game I 8 2's in a row and ended 2 games with my signature bank shot.  One guy ran his mouth so the last game I banked a 2 from about 25 ft and told him to shut up and to call me when he has a clue on when to talk
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 06:11:13 pm
hey whats up with my karma going back down, i was making progresss.....

snydz no way will i believe u pissed someone off :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 16, 2005, 06:17:48 pm
hey whats up with my karma going back down, i was making progresss.....

snydz no way will i believe u pissed someone off :)

me piss someone off??  never.....where is chorzy??

Sorry to stop the chatting for a while, time to go sit in the whirlpool and relax
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 07:08:05 pm
SJU has pre-game notes (http://www.gojohnnies.com/football/Monmouth%20FB%20Notes.doc) posted.

Also, the link to the webcast  (http://www.gojohnnies.com/football/) is up.

Monmouth sucks.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 07:25:22 pm
btw, dante daniels our starting rb was a state champeen in the 200 in h.s.

we have speed too......


About that...


Quote
Dante Daniels, sprints, Waukegan, Ill. (Gurnee HS) State champion in the 200 meters at the 1999 Illinois Class AA meet. Placed seventh in the 200 at the 2000 state championships. Personal best times are 10.6 for 100 meters and 21.94 for 200 meters

Sounds like your boy was already slowing down before he graduated high school! By this time, he's probably slower than TDT in a potato sack race.

That came from the Western Michigan University website listing their new recruits for the 2000-2001 season.

Interesting note, kid was a 2000 hs graduate and is currently listed as a junior on Monmouth's website..... I graduated hs in 2000 as well and am now in my 2nd year of grad school.

How many years does this guy plan to spend in college? He's on pace for 7 right now!

From Tommy boy:
Quote
"A lot of people go to college for 7 years.... Yeah, they're called Doctors!"


Rewind to yesterday:
I agree Scout, and since most of our schools are not near major university to get the dropouts.

Yeah... we're the ones getting DI dropouts....

Hello pot? Its the kettle, just wanted to tell you that you're black.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 16, 2005, 07:38:14 pm
the sju fan department research skills are impecable (sp)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 07:51:57 pm
Google is a wonderful tool ;D

All I did was enter "dante daniels 200" and click on the first link.

My sophomore roommate was a management major, so he had 12 credits of how to use google. Fortunately, he explained the finer points to me :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 16, 2005, 10:30:34 pm
Damn Snydz, you've gotta be hurting right now.  I mean you've been taking it more lately than a $2 whore on a Saturday Night Special! :D  You and OFS turned the message board into your own personal instant messenger this afternoon, but at least it was a couple of Scots talking smack back and forth rather than the Johnnies dominating the board like they have been the past few days.  All in good fun though...

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on this but I believe that Daniels spent a couple years running track at Western Michigan before leaving there and maybe was at a junior college for a couple years (not completely sure but it seems like I heard that part somewhere) before heading to Monmouth once he got the feeling to play football again.

Can't wait for the tailgating festivities; oh and the game too!  If they're bringing the Hamms, then Snydz--you or I (or both) will have to bring old faithful...plenty of Bud Light.  Plus whatever FloridaScot and ScotsR BetterThanU want to kick gameday off with.

I'll be back later tonight to catch up on the next 5 pages of posts that will show up during the next 2 hours!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 16, 2005, 10:42:12 pm
Damn Snydz, you've gotta be hurting right now.  I mean you've been taking it more lately than a $2 whore on a Saturday Night Special! :D  You and OFS turned the message board into your own personal instant messenger this afternoon, but at least it was a couple of Scots talking smack back and forth rather than the Johnnies dominating the board like they have been the past few days.  All in good fun though...

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on this but I believe that Daniels spent a couple years running track at Western Michigan before leaving there and maybe was at a junior college for a couple years (not completely sure but it seems like I heard that part somewhere) before heading to Monmouth once he got the feeling to play football again.

Can't wait for the tailgating festivities; oh and the game too!  If they're bringing the Hamms, then Snydz--you or I (or both) will have to bring old faithful...plenty of Bud Light.  Plus whatever FloridaScot and ScotsR BetterThanU want to kick gameday off with.

I'll be back later tonight to catch up on the next 5 pages of posts that will show up during the next 2 hours!
You must be sniffing fumes from St. Louis if you're going to ruin a festive occasion with Bud Light.
IM hoops and cars...a thinly veiled attempt to get to 200 posts. Get a chat room.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 16, 2005, 11:05:36 pm
Snyds - I told my Honda about your Roush, and this is the response I got:
(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9650/accord0ed.jpg)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 16, 2005, 11:52:56 pm
Presenting the Do it yourself Roush kit!

Take 1 part ****ty mustang 
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/230000-230999/230934_34.jpg)

+
Add 2 rolls duct tape:
(http://www.yenra.com/duct-tape-colors/duct-tape.jpg)

+
2 parts cardboard box:
(http://www.greenguardian.com/images/throw_cardboard.jpg)
+
2 cases Busch light:
(http://www.zianet.com/Spencer/busch502.jpg)
+
3 unemployed rednecks:
(http://www.gavas.com/UP3.jpg.jpg)
=
and you get
A Roush!!!
(http://www.rockcrawler.com/trailreports/clayton0598/tc/redneckdeluxe.jpg)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 17, 2005, 12:51:00 am
finsleft - Now don't start dissing the Bud Light or this page will no longer be just in good fun! ;)  The Bud Light does not ruin a festive occasion such as this game, it enhances everything surrounding it.

kiltedrat - Props on your last post...laughing my ass off at that one.  Definitely qualifies as the post of the week so far! :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 17, 2005, 01:29:32 am
Just looked at the Around the Nation column and found this under the Disappointments category for the West Region playoff bracket.  It's a quote from Adam Johnson, one of the Around the Region columnists.

"Johnson: Monmouth. For the sixth time in seventh tries the MWC will lose, and lose handiliy, in its first-round matchup."

Previous MWC first round scores...
1999: Augustana 39 - St. Norbert 32
2000: Central 29 - St. Norbert 14
2001: St. John's 27 - St. Norbert 20
2002: Wartburg 45 - Lake Forest 0
2003: St. Norbert 26 - Simpson 20
2004: UW-LaCrosse 37 - St. Norbert 23

If he wants to predict that Monmouth will lose big this weekend, I have no problem with that--it's his choice.  But to refer to losses in 5 of those previous 6 first round games as "losing handily" is ridiculous.  5 of those 6 first round games were losses by 2 TD's or less--I had no idea that was the criteria for "losing handily." (read with sarcasm ;))  The only time an MWC team has lost by an extremely large margin was in 2002 when Wartburg drilled Lake Forest.  Sorry Mr. Johnson, but all those other first round games where St. Norbert hung with those other teams should not be classified as "losing handily."  Get a clue...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rockcat on November 17, 2005, 02:09:41 am
I think the losing handiliy comment was only a reference to this weekends game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 17, 2005, 07:02:13 am
I appreciate everyone trying to imitate the Roush.  But hey, what can you do, since it is stored for the winter.

Mav- I will bring some Bud Light, but I want to start the day off with a Hamms, see if I like it or not.

Well this may be my last post until everyone sees SNYDZ at the big game.  Subbing, then hitting the long road to Minn!

Can't wait to see Scots Nation in MN!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 08:15:51 am
Although I doubt that was your last post, have a safe trip, and we'll see you Saturday.  Don't be a stranger.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on November 17, 2005, 09:02:24 am
Maverick,
Don't let the haters get you down.  Keep fighting the good fight and one of these days you'll be able to say, "I told you so".
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 17, 2005, 09:56:16 am
The predictions don't look good from the D3football.com experts but, as a reminder, here's their headline for the 2005 Monmouth football preview:

"Monmouth -- Will be hard-pressed to get back to 9-1"

Ten wins no later, I'm not surprised they don't think we can get 11.

Props to Mav for his "losing handily" breakdown. And props to the post several screens ago that said by recognizing everyone for all-conference, you recognize no one. You read my mind.

Mentally, I karmalize you both.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 10:00:22 am
You'll get the definition of "losing handily" on Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 17, 2005, 10:07:47 am
I agree with Rockcat, I think the losing handidly is in reference to this weeks game.

I know Adam personally, he knows his **** and researches that which he doesn't know. I am sure he knows the scores of the past 7 match-ups as well as who played what position for each team and what color the watergirls' hair was.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 17, 2005, 10:15:53 am
finsleft - Now don't start dissing the Bud Light or this page will no longer be just in good fun! ;)  The Bud Light does not ruin a festive occasion such as this game, it enhances everything surrounding it.

kiltedrat - Props on your last post...laughing my ass off at that one.  Definitely qualifies as the post of the week so far! :)

Light Beer has led to the feminization of America-----There is nothing "enhancing"  about a beer that has been watered down, stripped of flavor, and freeze dried :P

Acceptable Beers at the SJU Tailgates: 1. Hamms, 2. Hamms, 3.  Leinies Honey Weiss, 4. Leinies Red, 5.  Grain Belt Premium, and 6. Anything BUT BUTT LIGHT!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 17, 2005, 10:18:32 am
what about PBR, linies bock and mickey's big mouths malt liquor?? Are those acceptable?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 17, 2005, 10:22:50 am
what about PBR, linies bock and mickey's big mouths malt liquor?? Are those acceptable?

Only if Above Said Beers have been "eliminated" from the coolers!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 17, 2005, 10:24:46 am
Reminder to all MON fans---

Tommorow night is "Drink Your Dad's Beer" night at the LaPlayette in St. Joe..

Don't worry, they will have Bud Light if your daddy wears a skirt! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 17, 2005, 10:59:45 am
Mav- I will bring some Bud Light, but I want to start the day off with a Hamms, see if I like it or not.

Kind of like serving the good wine first at a party.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 12:11:42 pm


Acceptable Beers at the SJU Tailgates: 1. Hamms, 2. Hamms, 3.  Leinies Honey Weiss, 4. Leinies Red, 5.  Grain Belt Premium, and 6. Anything BUT BUTT LIGHT!
Quote

Leinies tastes like kool-aid, drink a real beer pansy!!!

Ill have the Original (Coors) intravenously (sp?) flowing on saturday on my patio in cali, listening to the Scotties shock the world, well at least shocking Junior highville.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on November 17, 2005, 12:12:03 pm
Tempo, Tempo, Tempo

I dont think that everyone is giving Monmouth enough credit for the work that they have done.  I love what McMillan put in the Around the Nation about Monmouth should have got a home game.  I dont agree with that but at least some respect has been thrown around.  

Coach Bell has been around some big games before.  I know that they will be ready and i am sure that they have some thing up their sleeve.  Lets hope that its a football play and not a couple of cases of Hamm's.  

Go Scotties shock the DIII Nation.

PS. Sorry I wont be able to make it on Sat. However, Rooster I will be calling for a play by play.  

Also Does St. Johns have a telephone teamline that i can call and listen to the game?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 12:17:21 pm
Stop F'in with karma >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 17, 2005, 12:18:33 pm
Papa, all the games are broadcast via the web. Just log on and listen!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 17, 2005, 12:21:24 pm


Acceptable Beers at the SJU Tailgates: 1. Hamms, 2. Hamms, 3.  Leinies Honey Weiss, 4. Leinies Red, 5.  Grain Belt Premium, and 6. Anything BUT BUTT LIGHT!
Quote

Leinies tastes like kool-aid, drink a real beer pansy!!!

Ill have the Original (Coors) intravenously (sp?) flowing on saturday on my patio in cali, listening to the Scotties shock the world, well at least shocking Junior highville.....

The only shock is going to be the rest of the world going, "
Damn, how did such a shi$$y team get into the playoffs???"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 12:22:39 pm
will there be a webcast limit.  do i need to be standing idly by my comp to make sure i get on?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 17, 2005, 12:25:20 pm
Yeah, I'm already shocked.

PS. Sorry I wont be able to make it on Sat. However, Rooster I will be calling for a play by play.  

Also Does St. Johns have a telephone teamline that i can call and listen to the game?

Just have Rooster describe the ass whoopin' to you.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 12:34:49 pm
pcole,

what game will you be attending this weekend?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 17, 2005, 12:36:55 pm
Just read the Around The Nation segment.  The "award winning MC SID department" should invite Keith McMillan for a game next year.  He, at least, as some positive things to say write about Monmouth.  

Pcole - we get it.  You don't like MC or the MWC.  Why be so blunt?  Monmouth has increasingly improved it's non-conference opponent, but things take time.  They've scheduled Wartburg for the next couple of years.  Is that satisfactory?  Next year, can you at least take off your steel-toe boots before you kick us in a$$?  

Love,

Scottie
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on November 17, 2005, 01:17:02 pm
While I have no affiliation with Monmouth as a supporter of the MWC I wish you the best on Saturday.

For years I have been a MWC fan who has loved watching St Johns do well in the playoffs.  However, after reading the ranting of some of their fans on this board, should Monmouth lose on Saturday (likely I'm afraid) the following week I will be doing something I never thought I could bring myself to do, cheering for a team from the WIAC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 01:25:40 pm
That's okay, we don't need one more idiot on our side.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 17, 2005, 01:28:38 pm
While I have no affiliation with Monmouth as a supporter of the MWC I wish you the best on Saturday.

For years I have been a MWC fan who has loved watching St Johns do well in the playoffs.  However, after reading the ranting of some of their fans on this board, should Monmouth lose on Saturday (likely I'm afraid) the following week I will be doing something I never thought I could bring myself to do, cheering for a team from the WIAC.
Thanks for sharing.
Funny thing, I just read the following column just before I read your post. I think they're related somehow...
http://miva.sctimes.com/miva/cgi-bin/miva?Web/page.mv+1+sports+800648
Here's my favorite quote from the column:
"Jealousy and pettiness are not desirable traits."
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 17, 2005, 01:34:25 pm
Hey Duff, What makes you think we want him either?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on November 17, 2005, 01:38:55 pm
"Here's my favorite quote from the column:
"Jealousy and pettiness are not desirable traits"

No jealousy and no pettiness intended.  For years I viewed St Johns as one of the programs in D3 football that exhibited class and represented what this level of football should be about.  The program may still present that image but the posters I have read here (following some of the inital posts which were very cordial and complimentary) certainly do not.  

The more I read the postings of the"fans" of St Johns here the more they remind me of the fan base of Notre Dame (if you take that as a compliment you shouldn't.)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on November 17, 2005, 01:40:08 pm
Hey Duff, What makes you think we want him either?

I had no desire to attend UWW (my ACT score had two digits in it.)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 17, 2005, 01:42:02 pm
Congrats on you 10!


Yes, we're a lot like NotreDame: perennially successful catholic institutions with a dedicated fan base all over the country. Different colors though.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 17, 2005, 01:44:37 pm


No jealousy and no pettiness intended.

Intended or not, it sounds quite petty to me. You want to judge a football program by what you read from a couple of us blabbermouths having fun on this site, go ahead. Go cheer for whomever you want. I'm sure they'll be thrilled to have you on board.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on November 17, 2005, 01:45:03 pm
Congrats on you 10!


Yes, we're a lot like NotreDame: perennially successful catholic institutions with a dedicated fan base all over the country. Different colors though.

"Congrats on YOU 10" :D

Youse guys kills me.  I simply can't compete with how smart you is.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 01:47:24 pm
One shouldn't judge a program by it's posters.  Or for that matter, one shouldn't judge a person by what they post.  If you spent any time on this board, you'd know that we're a great bunch of guys who just like to goof off on the board.  I'm sure some Mammoth fans will agree with this after Saturday.  We're a great bunch.

Feel free to jump on our bandwagon.  It'll take you all the way to Salem.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 01:48:28 pm
Dolph, way to criticize a medical student for being stupid.  I hope it's KR giving you your prostate exam in a few years. :o
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on November 17, 2005, 01:49:58 pm
One shouldn't judge a program by it's posters.  Or for that matter, one shouldn't judge a person by what they post.  If you spent any time on this board, you'd know that we're a great bunch of guys who just like to goof off on the board.  I'm sure some Mammoth fans will agree with this after Saturday.  We're a great bunch.

Feel free to jump on our bandwagon.  It'll take you all the way to Salem.

Fair enough.  Whoever gets to Salem from this region deserves some type of recogniton just for getting that far.  While I understand the NCAA wants to keep travel down whenever they can, having St Johns, Whitewater and Linfield in one regional this year is a real shame.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 17, 2005, 01:51:10 pm
One shouldn't judge a program by it's posters.  Or for that matter, one shouldn't judge a person by what they post.  If you spent any time on this board, you'd know that we're a great bunch of guys who just like to goof off on the board.  I'm sure some Mammoth fans will agree with this after Saturday.  We're a great bunch.

Feel free to jump on our bandwagon.  It'll take you all the way to Salem.

Fair enough.  Whoever gets to Salem from this region deserves some type of recogniton just for getting that far.  While I understand the NCAA wants to keep travel down whenever they can, having St Johns, Whitewater and Linfield in one regional this year is a real shame.

Smartest thing you've said all day.

Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 17, 2005, 01:51:40 pm
Dolph,

I wanted to dumb it down to a level you'd understand, but apparently your comprehension capabilities are far superior to what had been previously hypothesized. Your arrogance and ignorance in judging a program based on initial uninformed impressions of some posts online are superior to even your double digit ACT.


Duff,
He's probably in the 25% who defer a prostate exam along with other recommended screening exams because he knows better than the doctor.

BTW, the mean age of death of that 25% is 10-15 years younger than those who have all recommended screening procedures...maybe those crazy doctors know what they're talking about... whoda thunk it???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 17, 2005, 02:00:05 pm
Feel free to jump on our bandwagon.  It'll take you all the way to Salem.

Or at least to Whitewater where the wheels will fall off (hopefully)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 17, 2005, 02:17:36 pm
TherA young Scottish lad and lass were sitting on a low stone wall,holding hands, gazing out over the loch. For several minutes they sat silently.
Then finally the girl looked at the boy and said, "A penny for your thoughts, Angus."
"Well, uh, I was thinkin'...perhaps it's aboot time for a wee kiss."
The girl blushed, then leaned over and kissed him lightly on the cheek.
Then he blushed. The two turned once again to gaze out over the loch.
Minutes passed and the girl spoke again. "Another penny for your thoughts, Angus." "Well, uh, I was thinkin' perhaps it's noo time aboot time for a wee cuddle."
The girl blushed, then leaned over and cuddled him for a few seconds.
Then he blushed. Then the two turned once again to gaze out over the loch.
After a while, she again said, "Another penny for your thoughts, Angus."
"Well, uh, I was thinkin' perhaps it's aboot time you let me put my hand
on your leg."
The girl blushed, then took his hand and put it on her knee. Then he blushed. The the two turned once again to gaze out over the lock before the girl spoke again.
"Another penny for your thoughts, Angus."
The young man glanced down with a furled brow. "Well,noo," he said, "my thoughts are a wee bit more serious this time."
"Really?" said the lass in a whisper, filled with anticipation.
"Aye," said the lad, nodding.
The girl looked away in shyness, began to blush, and bit her lip in anticipation of the ultimate request.
Then he said, "Dae ye nae think it's aboot time ye paid me the first
three pennies?"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 02:28:45 pm
http://www.monm.edu/photo-albums/2005/football/pages/IMG_5978.htm

Foreshadowing, MC gang tackling this weekend.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 17, 2005, 02:34:14 pm
http://www.monm.edu/photo-albums/2005/football/pages/IMG_5978.htm

Foreshadowing, MC gang tackling this weekend.....

This was against a 3-7 team called the "blue boys" 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SeattleScot on November 17, 2005, 02:37:09 pm
The link to the team-by-team snap shots on the front page are a nice touch, however, someone obviously didn't do their homework.  Unless I am mistaken, I didn't spend four years going to school in Jacksonville, Illinois.  Monmouth College is located in (gasp!) Monmouth, Illinois, not Jacksonville.  Nice work.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 02:39:30 pm

This was against a 3-7 team called the "blue boys" 
Quote

Wonderful observation, should i jump in my time machine so that i can get the real upcoming photo opp......
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 02:42:47 pm
the pics of the blue boy debacle are from MC's homecoming this year....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 17, 2005, 02:43:18 pm
no need just listen to your police scanner and when you hear of a horrifc wreck just go take those pics
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 02:46:31 pm
huh ???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 17, 2005, 02:48:55 pm
Good catch, SeattleScot. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 17, 2005, 02:56:06 pm
The snow is falling in Central MN----

-10 with the windchill!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SeattleScot on November 17, 2005, 02:59:30 pm
Scottie,

Well, at least they got the name of our home field correct....

One would think that if they took the time to look up the name of our home field that they might have gone the extra step and found the correct name of the town.

Normally, someone not knowing that information wouldn't bother me, but when the "media" doesn't do their homework...well, it makes them seem sloppy.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 03:00:21 pm
Scots Nation!!!

http://www.monm.edu/photo-albums/2005/football/pages/IMG_5783.htm
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 17, 2005, 03:09:30 pm
They got it right on their official page about you http://www.d3football.com/school_info.php?school=Monmouth.

Our visitor stands are larger than your stands!
(http://www.d3football.com/showphoto.php?photo=68)

... and here is
Johnnie Nation!
(http://www.d3football.com/showphoto.php?photo=11)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 17, 2005, 03:10:54 pm
But don't worry. Our visitors' stands are climate controlled for your viewing pleasure
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 17, 2005, 03:11:57 pm
Yeah, that side gets the sun during the second half--long after most fans have cleared out :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 03:18:13 pm
Sorry to say i wont be there.  Ill be in my climate controlled living room, listening to the greatest day in Fighting Scots history.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 03:43:59 pm
Yeah, there's probably not enough room for your head, anyways.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 17, 2005, 03:45:25 pm
Sorry to say i wont be there.  Ill be in my climate controlled living room, listening to the greatest day in Fighting Scots history.....

Your program must be bad if a 49-7 loss to SJU is the greatest day in your history!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 17, 2005, 03:53:40 pm
Have to give the Scots a little credit----

The blonde on the homepage of the website is a "Hottie" ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 17, 2005, 03:56:06 pm
(http://www.monm.edu/Images/Tour/t7.jpg)

Isn't that TC's sister? I thought she went to UST...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 17, 2005, 04:02:47 pm
Most females are considered hotties to SJU students, aren't they?  ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 17, 2005, 04:05:56 pm
Yes and most MWC teams are considered doormats.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 17, 2005, 04:07:55 pm
Jock finds himself in dire trouble. His business has gone bust and he's in serious financial problems. He's so desperate that he decides to ask God for help. "God, please help me. Ah've lost ma wee store and if Ah dinna get some money, Ah'm going to lose my hoose too. Please let me win the lottery!" Lottery night! Someone else wins...  Jock prays again. "God, please let me win the lottery! Ah've lost my wee store, ma hoose and Ah'm going to lose ma car as weel!" Lottery night again! Still no luck... Jock prays again.
"Ah've lost ma business, ma hoose and ma car. Ma bairns
are starving. Ah dinna often ask Ye for help and Ah have
always been a good servant to Ye. PLEASE just let me win
the lottery this one time so Ah can get back on ma feet!"
Suddenly there is a blinding flash as the heavens open and
the voice of God Himself thunders:
"Jock at least meet Me half way and buy a ticket!"

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 17, 2005, 04:08:37 pm
Yes and most MWC teams are considered doormats.

First Class Post!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightingscots13 on November 17, 2005, 04:11:26 pm
ritz72 - thanks for your approval of our homepage...I set up that shot.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 04:13:26 pm
Isn't that TC's sister? I thought she went to UST...

I can only imagine that TC's sister is much homlier (based on his appearance).  I'd introduce that chick to the Johnnie Nation!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 17, 2005, 04:15:44 pm
ritz72 - thanks for your approval of our homepage...I set up that shot.

They have fluffers on staff at MON??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 04:20:35 pm
They have fluffers on staff at MON??

LOL! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 17, 2005, 04:21:42 pm
Ritz,
You trumped my ace... for that I salute and karmalize you!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 17, 2005, 04:26:43 pm
In defense of MC's stands, many fans like to sit on the big hill on the home side. But, yes, we'd like to get more seating, and we'd also like to get pro turf and a nicer press box. Plans for all are in the works.

Heard two things about SJU football today and wanted to check them out. A la Bill Walsh's 49ers, do the Johnnies open the game with a 20-play script? And, is it true that hitting is relatively light in SJU practices ... they save the heavy-hitting for Saturdays?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: onearmedscot on November 17, 2005, 04:27:15 pm
Maverick--

For six pages ago...sorry, busy day at the office.

First, please don't call me Mr. Johnson--I'm way to young for that.

Second, I thought my commas were enough to show what I meant but I guess not.  What I meant was "For the sixth time in seven years, the MWC rep will lose...and this year's rep, Monmouth, will lose handily--i.e. three touchdowns.

Sorry for the confusion but thanks for doing the research.

OneArmedScot
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 17, 2005, 04:32:32 pm
In defense of MC's stands, many fans like to sit on the big hill on the home side. But, yes, we'd like to get more seating, and we'd also like to get pro turf and a nicer press box. Plans for all are in the works.

Heard two things about SJU football today and wanted to check them out. A la Bill Walsh's 49ers, do the Johnnies open the game with a 20-play script? And, is it true that hitting is relatively light in SJU practices ... they save the heavy-hitting for Saturdays?


I doubt the scripting part, Duffman, Ritz, or Mr. Shoes would know more about that since they actually played.

As far as hitting, there is NO hitting in practice. Players only wear shoulder pads and helmets... well they wear shorts or sweatpants and  shoes and socks, but no leg pads. Occassionally an accidental hit will happen on the practice field, but it is the exception not the rule.

There are also no calisthenics, no organized stretching, and no whistles at practice.

Gagliardi's theory on stretching is "A lion doesn't stretch his hamstrings before chasing a gazelle, why should humans be any different."
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightingscots13 on November 17, 2005, 04:45:11 pm
I remember all those "quirks" when St. John's and Gagliardi were featured on ESPN a few(?) years ago...thought it was a little strange at the time, but why mess with success...my h.s. football coach didn't believe in sprints, but we made up for the conditioning in other ways (pursuit drills, kick-off & punt coverages, etc.)...i gotta believe that the players have ways of stretching and getting loose, even if there isn't anything "organized."  Any former Johnnies care to give some details??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightingscots13 on November 17, 2005, 04:50:12 pm
ritz - since the Johnnies don't do anything organized to get loose, my guess is that they have fluffers of their own - maybe some 3rd or 4th stringers with soft hands....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 17, 2005, 04:55:32 pm
I only played defense (and even then, only as a scout teamer), so the offensive script thing is a mystery to me. I highly doubt we do anything of the sort, but part of John's reputation is his willingness to try anything that works.

The way I understood the lack of organized stretching, conditioning, etc. is this: there are enough talented guys on the team, that if the first-stringer doesn't do his job staying in shape and getting prepared, there is any number of guys who are more than willing to step in and get their chance to prove themselves. You slack, you sit. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 17, 2005, 05:31:39 pm
ritz72 - thanks for your approval of our homepage...I set up that shot.

hey you cant take full credit for that shot!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 17, 2005, 07:07:54 pm
We did have 1 drill in warm ups...the "nice day"drill.  we'd all lie on the ground and look up and admire what a "nice day" in was.  Gag's has got the boy's practicing in the Palestra this time of year. Would want anybody to get a cold or sick ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: BumFighter on November 17, 2005, 07:12:03 pm
It's always a nice day in the Palestra....and game day at Clemens Stadium.

The sun always shines on Johnnies football.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2005, 07:45:29 pm
The link to the team-by-team snap shots on the front page are a nice touch, however, someone obviously didn't do their homework.  Unless I am mistaken, I didn't spend four years going to school in Jacksonville, Illinois.  Monmouth College is located in (gasp!) Monmouth, Illinois, not Jacksonville.  Nice work.

Alright, alright, take it easy. This is one person doing 32 of these freakin' things and sometimes when working from memory I slip up. Give me a freakin' break.

At least someone else had the common courtesy to actually e-mail me rather than gripe about it on the message boards, so I actually found out about it. If you cared about the information being correct, rather than just being an ass and bitching about it, you could've done the same.

By the way, they're not just a nice touch, they're a staple of our annual coverage. Those who come around the site in November know this.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sjusection105 on November 17, 2005, 08:04:48 pm
In defense of MC's stands, many fans like to sit on the big hill on the home side. But, yes, we'd like to get more seating, and we'd also like to get pro turf and a nicer press box. Plans for all are in the works.

Heard two things about SJU football today and wanted to check them out. A la Bill Walsh's 49ers, do the Johnnies open the game with a 20-play script? And, is it true that hitting is relatively light in SJU practices ... they save the heavy-hitting for Saturdays?

I echo what Kilted rat says plus I also wanted to mention if you are not aware that the QBs at SJU call their own plays. Many times coming out of a time out a specific play is called,but during the flow of the game the QB has pretty much free rein.They will also run a handful of "favorite" plays to death until proven that they don't work. From 2000-2003 Blake Elliott make a living on the WR screen because his QB's  could smell "blood in the water" if the other team was playing man & the CB couldn't handle Blake.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 08:32:08 pm
No scripted plays.

No hitting in practice.  Well, you have to hit on the line, but nothing more than that.  You'd get yelled at.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 17, 2005, 08:33:23 pm
To any Monmouth fans leaving tomorrow.  Have a nice trip.  I hope you enjoy your first and last play-off game this year.  SJU will totally out-class you in a short while.  Peaces out.

Scots blow.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 17, 2005, 08:34:01 pm
I think I would have enjoyed practice if we didn't hit all the time ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 17, 2005, 09:09:30 pm
Kubiak, I don't think you'd fit in that cat dome.. ::)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sjusection105 on November 17, 2005, 09:11:04 pm
Hey MWC,

We almost doubled your season posting total in 1 week :D

Fear the power of the MIAC :o
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 17, 2005, 09:39:55 pm
Kubiak, I don't think you'd fit in that cat dome.. ::)

It's got sand in it... I work in a sand box....  There's a connection there somewhere
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 17, 2005, 09:45:36 pm
Ok buddy, what ever you say. ::)You need to get out more.(http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/5025/bunny8kn.png)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: TRU on November 17, 2005, 10:08:04 pm
I think one good thing we can say about these Monmouth posters is they are not SNC posters. Remember a few years back. I think Pat had to shut down the MWC board after the SJU-SNC game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJUGator on November 17, 2005, 10:24:43 pm
No scripted plays

No hitting in practice-except initial contact off the ball-AND

an occasional scout offensive receiver with the 1st D  ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 17, 2005, 11:51:55 pm
Tru, that's because we kicked their arses.  Wait till after sat. and this board will have 500 pages of excuses posted as to why they lost. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 06:52:22 am
I hear that I missed ScotRbetterthanU's reply to me.  Where are you now, buddy? :D

Gator, there is also a short open season on scout QB's.  Unfortunately, you usually ended up getting drilled in the head on the next play.  Oh, the memories. 

According to the Times, MC will be practicing at Augsburg today!?  First of all, there dome is up already.  Second of all, why would you practice at the worst facilities in the conference?  Maybe it will make them feel at home.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 18, 2005, 07:08:54 am
Maybe if they practice on the facilities of the worst team in the MIAC they'll feel better about themselves.

I bet they could probably play Auggie Tech pretty close!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on November 18, 2005, 07:35:51 am
                                   Jonnie Nation

As powerful on the football field as they are in post patterns.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 08:03:01 am
Come on, it's Johnnie Nation. ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 08:34:11 am
Looks like the Scots have some pretty good size on their O and D lines and their LB's.  How would you fans rate each (objectively)?  Is the o-line better at run blocking or pass blocking?  Do they have decent footwork, or are they just brutes up front?  How about the d-line?  Do they come at you hard, or are they more of a read-and-react style?  Are the linebackers the athletic type that can cover a receiver, or are they mainly used to plug holes?  What else can you tell us?  Is your passing game more quick rhythm or does he air it out.

Here's my brief synopsis of the Johnnies for you:
The o-line isn't too big and is much better at pass blocking.  They have struggled with a d-line that controls the line of scrimmage.  They aren't the type to blow you off the ball in the running game; they'll work angles and beat you that way.  The receivers are fairly good.  Gearman is huge and runs like a gazelle, Royce-Diop is deceptively fast, but his hands are questionable.  They runs WR sweeps with him a lot.  Haugen is a midget and not too fast, but he catches the ball well.  There are a few other receivers that will rotate in, too.  Keating is a huge TE but gets hurt a lot.  I think he'll be playing.  Our RBs are very good.  There are about 4 that will play quite a bit.  Weber and Lofboom will probably start.  Both catch the ball well out of the backfield.  Weber is an animal if he gets a hole.  Beaudry and Luberts usually get quite a bit of time as well.  Both are small but run hard.  QB is Kofoed.  Very, very good, but he's young and will make his share of mistakes.  He'll force throws when he's out of rhythm.  We'll work the short passing game a lot, usually.  Also, he'll throw long on occasion, but not as much as I'd like to see.

On defense, the d-line is probably the best I've ever seen.  They aren't huge, but use quickness to their advantage.  The run a read and react and will come at you in a lot of different alignments.  They are very fast off the ball and get into the backfield a lot.  The linebackers are pretty good and very athletic.  Hawn is by far the best.  He's very smart and leads the defense well.  Both corners are good but not very big.  Zauhar doesn't get throw at too much (you may have seen him return a pick for 100 yards in the Stagg in '03).  The safeties are young but have inproved well as the season has gone along.  They both have pretty good size.

Well, that's my quick assessment for you.  I hope someone can give me a similar outlook on the Scots.  It's been fun sparring with you guys this week.  I hope I offended no one.  We Johnnies just like to have a good time.  Safe travels, and I hope to meet a lot of you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on November 18, 2005, 09:23:55 am
Well, Like I said in August when the chest pounders at SNC owned the board, if the MWC is to get respected then we must stand-up and BEAT the big boys.

SNC proved fraud...maybe the Scots can prove different.

Nothing puts a team, program, conference on the map like beating a storied program like SJU. Great tradition, Coach, players, history--I can't think of a better opportunity.

Good luck this weekend Scots.


Going in the other direction

I will be very interested in what will be happening at Beloit. 5-5 this season with a skelton crew--Whoever becomes the next HC will have but one great mission--bring in the players!!!
IF that can happen look for the BUCS to go to the show in the future. If not-return to status quo.


Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 09:29:58 am
Duff Man:  Why couldn't you guys post like that this week?  Some of us would like to discuss football issues, but have had to put up with comments like this:

"To any Monmouth fans leaving tomorrow.  Have a nice trip.  I hope you enjoy your first and last play-off game this year.  SJU will totally out-class you in a short while.  Peaces out.  Scots blow."  Do you recognize this one D-Man?

In one week you have doubled the number of posts on this site, and we're all dumber for it...

In a nutshell, the Scots didn't go 10-0 just by "out-bruting" their opponents.  They have good young coaches and the team is sound at many/most aspects of offense and defense.  I'll be interested to read your impressions of the team after the game.  Perhaps you can try go give it a little more thought than "Scots blow."

Good luck to the Scots tomorrow.  Speaking for myself, I know they are in for a massive challenge.  But I know they will play hard and represent the Monmouth and the MWC to the best of their ability.  Win or lose, the Scots Nation is proud of our team.

"Monmouth Fooball in 2005!"   >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 18, 2005, 09:35:37 am
SNC proved fraud...maybe the Scots can prove different.

Name your team's accomplishments.

What have you and Beloit, I believe, done for this conference in the last 10 years? You're a goon - always have been.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 18, 2005, 09:41:12 am
I can't go as indepth as DuffMan, but I can offer a few observations. Games are won upfront, and I really like Monmouth's defensive line. Dihle and Goranson are studs, Bush is solid, and players like Kirchner, Cantwell and Inniss also contribute situationally. I can't handicap how they'll fare vs. SJU's offensive line, but it should be a good matchup.

The crux of the whole game, in my opinion, is the other line matchup. SJU sounds very tough upfront defensively. Our guys are okay. IF they can keep players away from Tanney, he WILL make good decisions. Our head coach is a very good play-caller, and he'll know when to take a chance downfield. Mostly, though, Tanney will throw 0-15-yard passes. We don't have a breakaway running game, but that's okay ... Haffner, in particular, and the rest of our deep receiving corps provide the big plays.

My guess is that Zigler and Bast are as good as SJU's best players at LB and DB, respectively. Do we have enough others that compare? We'll see.

Offensively, Tanney and Haffner are as good as what you have but, again, do the rest of the skill players compare?

I'd love to be there and see for myself.

I think the only way Scots Nation will make excuses for a loss is if it's a close game and a call or break went against us. If it's 49-7 or whatever Johnnie Nation is predicting, we'd tip our caps and root you on the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 09:42:03 am
Scottie, I and other Johnnie fans gave you all a warm welcome when the match-up was announced.  That said, we also warned you that we're quite a boisterous bunch.
I echo the sentiments of previous Johnnie posters.  Come and join us, we always have a good time.  I look forward to a fun-filled day with the Johnnies prevailing in a Monkey StompTM.

Feel free to poke your heads in the MIAC board this week.  Our conversations are quite lively.
I've already posted it several times, but most of the comments and insults thrown around on here are in jest.  Do the Scots blow?  I wouldn't know, but I'll find out.  Some of you guys need to lighten up a little.  We like to talk football, but that's not all.  If you had questions about SJU, you should have asked them and I am sure that you would have gotten a dozen serious responses.  What football knowledge have you contributed this week?

I'm done commenting on the situation.  If you choose to take everything I say at face value, so be it.

Thank you for your statements on Monmouth's team.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 09:42:38 am
Duff Man:  Why couldn't you guys post like that this week?  Some of us would like to discuss football issues, but have had to put up with comments like this:

"To any Monmouth fans leaving tomorrow.  Have a nice trip.  I hope you enjoy your first and last play-off game this year.  SJU will totally out-class you in a short while.  Peaces out.  Scots blow."  Do you recognize this one D-Man?

In one week you have doubled the number of posts on this site, and we're all dumber for it...

In a nutshell, the Scots didn't go 10-0 just by "out-bruting" their opponents.  They have good young coaches and the team is sound at many/most aspects of offense and defense.  I'll be interested to read your impressions of the team after the game.  Perhaps you can try go give it a little more thought than "Scots blow."

Good luck to the Scots tomorrow.  Speaking for myself, I know they are in for a massive challenge.  But I know they will play hard and represent the Monmouth and the MWC to the best of their ability.  Win or lose, the Scots Nation is proud of our team.

"Monmouth Fooball in 2005!"   >:(

It should be "When they lose", not "Win or lose"!!   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 09:44:39 am
Thanks, Schwanman.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 18, 2005, 09:46:04 am
112 players all conference, they are handing them out now
who wants one if everyone has one

I know it was talked about it 20 pages ago but I missed 2 days.

Greg-

Beloit brings the best coach in the conference to the table??

And he tried to play smashmouth football with 29 guys on the roster. 

Does anyone think they will still run wing-t next year?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 09:47:33 am
Thanks for demonstrating my point, Ritz72.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 09:48:55 am
 Piggy backing--

The key matchup is the DL of SJU vs. MON's OL----  Against the arguably the toughest O in the MIAC STO, we took awat their long passing game with an excellent pass rush, then our LB's eliminated their short game.  

The tough thing about the Jay's D-Line is that you cannot focus on one of them.  All 2 will be All-Americans again this year, and the other 2 will receive conference or region accolades.

Like Duff said, this is the toughest Jay's D in a long, long, time.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 09:51:32 am
Thanks for demonstrating my point, Ritz72.


Ask a football question and get a football answer.  Rip us, and what do you expect?

Take a midol, drink some V-8, take a nap, and LIGHTEN UP A LITTLE!!!! :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 09:55:59 am
Ritz,  I hear that MC has a few all-conference players, too.  In fact, all of them ;D  Scottie's crabby!  I think he needs a nap.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 10:00:59 am
I'm going to preface this question with two points:  1. I'm not implying that the MWC is in the same league as the MIAC, and 2. We don't need to start comparing academics either...

My question goes back to Mighty Royal's question about Monmouth's competition this year.  How competitive is the MIAC for St. John's?  Looking at their conference standings, there seems to be slightly more parity in the MWC.  The MWC has 5 teams with winning conference records, the MIAC has 3.  It appears that SJU rolled through the MIAC the same way that MC rolled through the MWC - albeit with a couple of close calls.  

The big difference between the conference appears to be that, since the MWC has one more member, MIAC schools can play 2 non-conference games - and that does give them an advantage if they can schedule tough competition like Eau Claire, etc.  As stated previously, Monmouth gets Wartburg the next two years which should hopefully quiet the critics somewhat.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 18, 2005, 10:03:04 am
Not all of them only 19 all-conf
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 10:09:39 am
Okay, and here is a football answer.  

The MIAC wasn't too much of a challenge for SJU this year.  Concordia was/is very tough, other than that, SJU breezed through it's season.  St. Olaf had a good team, but SJU got up early on them and everything fell into place.  That being said, the MIAC generally is more competitive.  Bethel has had some very good teams in the past 7 or so years.  St. Thomas and Gustavus are usually teams that play tough with the Johnnies, too.  

Non-conference wise, SJU played a good UWEC team and would have beat them handily except for 3 blocked punts in the second half.  Northwestern, though, is a creampuff.

My guess is that if Monmouth would have played in the MIAC this year, they would have finished 4th behind SJU, CC, and STO.  I've never seen them, but I'm basing this on seeing and playing against St. Norbert several times.

I think the difference is that SJU has proven that they have the ability to go deep in the play-offs time and time again.  The MWC has not proven this, so they don't get respect, no matter who the MWC champ is.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 10:15:57 am
See, that wasn't so hard.   8)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 10:16:36 am
Scots suck :o
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 10:25:01 am
No, they really don't.  Neither do the Johnnies.  But I guess you and the other maroons can make an informed opinion in about 27 hours.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 10:27:42 am
I've already formed my opinion of the Scots, tomorrow will just further enforce it :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 10:30:24 am
Scottie,
I will agree with you that the MIAC wasn't as competitive this year as past years, which Duffman pointed out....but when you look at the type of players the MIAC produces, you will agree that the MIAC is full of unbelievable athletes...i.e.  Michael Johnson, Jake Barkley(graduated All-american RB's)...Phil Porta, Jr., is an outstanding running back for BU, which will surpass the all-time MIAC rushing record held by Barkley, next season.  SJU has all-american D-lineman...not to mention a couple yrs back SJU had Blake Elliot(Gagliardi Trophy winner), Cam McCambridge (all-american LB), and Jeremy Hood (all-american D-lineman), St. Thomas has Ubbelhode which is arguably one of the best linebackers in the nation, etc etc....You see that past players as well as present players continue to emerge as some of the best in DIII, so the MIAC is usually unbelievably competitive...maybe not so much this year besides Concordia-Moorehead and SJU, but most years the MIAC is arguably one of the most competitive conferences in the nation...along with IIAC and WIAC conferences!

Mighty Royal

Well put Mighty if I could Karmalize you I would ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 10:34:47 am
I can hear Bruce Springsteen's "Glory Days" blaring at the next reunion.   ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 18, 2005, 10:37:35 am
If MC had flory days to think about, you'd probably appreciate that song a bit more!


Snydz definitely knows what its talking about..."This one time in 2001 I totally won the game...then we lost the next game by 70..."
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 10:43:02 am
MC has had plenty of "flory" days.   While you were thinking of your next insult to sling our way, you could have searched that our men's athletic program is the reigning all-sports champions of the MWC. 

Just out of curiosity...since we're coming up to play football, how would your boys like to come down for a track meet sometime?   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: onearmedscot on November 18, 2005, 10:46:42 am
Let's play this game

Monmouth beat Beloit 56-30
Carleton beat Beloit 53-28
St. John's beat Carleton 41-7

Just to compare some scores.  Giving up 30 to Beloit is not very impressive for the Scots.  There is no way the Scots stop the Johnnies offense if they can't stop Beloit's.  In order to win, Momouth will need to put up some serious points.

OneArmedScot
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 18, 2005, 10:49:02 am
our men's athletic program is the reigning all-sports champions of the MWC.  

Like I said, it's like being the prettiest girl in the trailer park.

(http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=trailer+trash/v=2/SID=e/TID=I999_73/l=IVI/SIG=12asnfe61/EXP=1132415268/*-http%3A//www.owlnet.rice.edu/~valkyrie/trailertrash1.JPG)


You may be #1 in your own little world, but compared to the rest of the world... you ain't much!


Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 18, 2005, 10:49:20 am
OAScott, against the Johnnie D?????Maybe 20 ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 18, 2005, 10:50:56 am
Kiltedrat, where did you get a pic of scottie's sisters... ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 10:56:14 am
Again, let's do some quick fact checking...

The Monmouth-Beloit score was 49-8 at halftime and 56-14 after the third quarter.  Beloit scored 16 points in the fourth quarter - obviously against the second or third string of MC.  Many of the Scots' games were like this.  At the time, Beloit was winless and MC called off the dogs. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 18, 2005, 11:02:39 am
MR,

I'd recommend zoloft as well.

Some of their fans appear to need it for its anti-PMDD properties ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnniebread on November 18, 2005, 11:03:18 am
MR, any chance you'll be in Collegeville handing it out to Monmouth fans? They're gonna need it!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 11:04:56 am
Might I suggest Remeron SolTabs? 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 11:08:25 am
Prediction:
Tanney throws 4 interceptions!

Mighty Royal

That would be amazing being that he has only thrown 6 in his last 20 games.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 18, 2005, 11:09:47 am
While you were thinking of your next insult to sling our way...

The Chairman of the grievance committee accounces boredom with the victimology already and requests scottie to get on with it already.  It is officially noted that continuous whining is really boring.

Everyone gets it.  You're mature and the Johnny supporters aren't.  Move on.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 11:10:30 am
Let's play this game

Monmouth beat Beloit 56-30
Carleton beat Beloit 53-28
St. John's beat Carleton 41-7

Just to compare some scores.  Giving up 30 to Beloit is not very impressive for the Scots.  There is no way the Scots stop the Johnnies offense if they can't stop Beloit's.  In order to win, Momouth will need to put up some serious points.

OneArmedScot


If MC didnt call off the dawgs halfway through the third they would have scored 100.  this is a very bad example homey...... ???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 18, 2005, 11:21:52 am
Old Fighting Scot -- exactly right, which is why comparing scores, though sometimes accurate, cannot really be trusted.

The most prime example of Monmouth's calling off the dawgs came against Ripon. The Scots took a 48-0 lead and subbed extensively. The Red Hawks closed the final score to 48-34.

Games like that and Beloit are why Monmouth's defense is not a big statistical leader. The unit feels they're underrrated and overlooked. Saturday would be a nice time for them to prove outsiders wrong.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 11:23:44 am
OK, and explain the 63-9 stomping SJU gave STO, a team that is far better than Beloit. John called off the dogs in the 3rd quarter, and yet the 2nd and 3rd string defenses yielded only 6 more points. AND, after dropping 35 in the 2nd quarter, the 1st string O could have scored 100 in three quarters (no, not really, but "on pace to" is a ridiculous measure).
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 11:31:42 am
Saturday would be a nice time for them to prove outsiders wrong.

Would be a nice time, but unfortunately, it won't!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 11:32:26 am
My point is this: "calling off the dogs" is a pretty dangerous excuse. When your backup defenders give up 34 points, that's not a good sign. You're one or two injuries to first-stringers away from having those backups on the field when the dogs are still "on". The Johnnies pride themselves on not giving up points, no matter how "in hand" the game is. That's why the "respectability" touchdown (note: singular) often scored at the ends of games is met with such disappointment and disdain from the coaches (trust me, they hate 'em), players, and especially fans.

Of the blowout games for SJU this year, Northwestern didn't get one, Carleton did, GAC didn't, Hamline didn't (shutout), Bethel didn't (3rd Q TD), Augsburg did (3rd Q and 4th Q), St. Olaf did (blocked XP), UST did (one would argue that both the 2nd Q and the 4th Q TDs were of the mercy variety). I can guarantee you that after each of those scores, Jerry and Gary were working as hard with the backups to plug holes and fix mistakes as they were with the first-string earlier in the game. There is NO attitude of "meh, we're well ahead already" anywhere on that team. Is it a "kick 'em when they're down" attitude like some would allege? Hardly. It's merely taking pride in one's work as a defender, and that means defending the goal, regardless of score.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 11:32:54 am
Looks like the Scots have some pretty good size on their O and D lines and their LB's.  How would you fans rate each (objectively)?  Is the o-line better at run blocking or pass blocking?  Do they have decent footwork, or are they just brutes up front?  How about the d-line?  Do they come at you hard, or are they more of a read-and-react style?  Are the linebackers the athletic type that can cover a receiver, or are they mainly used to plug holes?  What else can you tell us?  Is your passing game more quick rhythm or does he air it out.]

O-line.  very big, but somewhat inexperienced.  only returned one (maybe two) starters from last years 9-1 team.  pass blocking is their strength, but against a push have been sketchy in protecting tanney.  Run blocking is relatively average but, daniels is a speedster (if he gets in the open field he will not be caught by a johnnie or a viking for that matter).  if we are running well it is b/c the opposition is just too small.

D-line is huge (have a 6-7 260-270 lb tackle, former bball center)and very athletic up the middle.  if we are playing well the d-line will just stand up opposing line and push them back.  zigler #48 LB is as good as they come.  saw baby urlacher (lake forest) and LB from nubs (3 or 4 years ago) and he is better.  both of those guys are or have been in "the league."  other two Lb's make plays when too much attention is paid to #48.  the secondary is young, outside of #21 bast.  very aggressive, physical corner.  wont back down, might give up a big play, but if he does he will make two.  the defense is lacking superior speed, if you check back to like page 20 i said the same thing before we played nubs. 

Bottomline:  a little more speed on D and One more playmaker on O is keeping the scots from winning a national title with their current team.  But the intangibles of tanney, and the skills of the playmakers we do have will make saturday's game a lot more interesting than the D3football.com nation think........

Beware of the Scots Nation, the fever is spreading and reaching epic proportions!
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 11:35:00 am
OH, LIGHTEN UP MR. SHOES!  You're taking this way too seriously!!!   ;D

Actually, the Scots' fans are overly excited and proud of our team's accomplishments this season (and for the last 17 games in a row).  It's just that when we try to celebrate our accomplishments, pcole and you jonnie-straps try to throw a wet blanket on us.  
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 18, 2005, 11:37:17 am
My karma dropped, someone must have googled or WebMD'ed PMDD. ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 11:38:38 am
Calling off the dawgs and playing the third and 4th string is probably the biggest difference between MC and the johnnies.  MC is not a deep team and the reserves are not as talented as one would like.  but last i checked there are only 11 guys on the field for each team at any given time.  when the game matters the MC starters are one the field handling their business.....

unless we are up by 30 going into 4th you wont have to worry about the strenght of our 3rd or 4th string.......
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 11:41:30 am
Get yelled at for having too much fun... get yelled at for being too serious and talking football. WTF?

GO JOHNNIES!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 11:44:45 am
My sentiments exactly.  WTF
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 11:49:18 am
any thoughts on the laker/clipper game tonite?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnniebread on November 18, 2005, 11:49:30 am
Why does there seem to be so little support for Monmouth from other MWC fans? Come on MWC fans show your support! I was hoping Greg Pawlik would come on here today and announce he would be an attendance tomorrow wearing a skirt and cheering on the Scots ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 11:52:47 am
pawslick sucks....

and generally the only fans that are active on here are either from De Poor or MC.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on November 18, 2005, 11:59:09 am
Greg

Goon eh, and you get this for what?

When did you play?

I like you SNC guys--whenever someone makes a point it is bam--but look at our record over the past few years...Yes, Greg you guys have own the conference--but for how long?

In 1995 Beloit played for the conference championship v. Ripon and lost--they were also ranked in the final National Poll that season.

And if we are chest pounding--how did mighty Beloit-in your words "who has done nothing for this conference" nearly defeat the mighty Green Knights in week Two?

Let's simply support the MWC representative this Saturday instead of talking about all the mighty accomplishments that SNC has done for the conference.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 18, 2005, 12:01:07 pm
Why does there seem to be so little support for Monmouth from other MWC fans? Come on MWC fans show your support! I was hoping Greg Pawlik would come on here today and announce he would be an attendance tomorrow wearing a skirt and cheering on the Scots ;D

Thanks for calling. I was waiting by the phone.
I don't care much for Monmouth, but as I told them earlier, I wish them well, and hope they enjoy the experience. We played SJU twice at SNC, and you would have sworn we got thrown around like a bastard by some our the Johnnies comments here.

I understand it's just fun and games on this board. But if my memory serves me correctly, after ending my career in Collegeville (and after the weeks it took me to find myself reading these posts), there were plenty of positives the SJU faithful took from SNC from that game. Of course, there was the big negative that I hope we can put to bed, but we played tough, and gave you a good game (for three quarters I believe).

Now, we weren't national championship level. You, obviously, were.

Long story short, the Skirts will play tough. But, I played in three playoff games, and was shocked by the difference of competition my first time (Central). I'm not sure we had more than 100 yards offense.

The Skirts MIGHT fall into that category Saturday. Regardless, good luck.

Have a nice day Rome. Is this horseshoes?

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Outside View on November 18, 2005, 12:01:44 pm
Not to be a stickler- but the reason there is no to little support from other MWC teams/ fans is the simple fact that MC stands no chance on Saturday.  They will be outmatched, outclassed, and simply beat by a better team.  Nothing against the MWC, but this is a down year for all of the teams and Monmouth is just not ready to compete with the big boys in the region.  No play-off experience, it is a great big deal.  St. John's just might be better than Knox.  I wish them luck, but truly it is just an extra game for the seniors which they will enjoy til about kick-off.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 12:07:49 pm
Who asked you, Newbie?   >:(

signed,

Grumpy Scottie

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on November 18, 2005, 12:10:01 pm

 Is this horseshoes?


Your quick Wisconsin wit has me confused. WTF are you talking about?



Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnniebread on November 18, 2005, 12:11:19 pm
Surely the thought of a new conference champ is exciting....right? I am very excited to see the Scots tomorrow! I was getting bored with the whole SNC thing. It would go along way toward conference unity if Greg were to show up tomorrow in a skirt. ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 18, 2005, 12:14:16 pm
And if we are chest pounding--how did mighty Beloit-in your words "who has done nothing for this conference" nearly defeat the mighty Green Knights in week Two?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 12:16:52 pm
I hope it is the Johnnie fans who are saying WTF after the Scots end the game celebrating on the field.

Greg, what size waist are you?  I can have a kilt overnighted to you.   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 18, 2005, 12:18:29 pm
Do you have any paisley drapes?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on November 18, 2005, 12:19:09 pm
Again Greg you got me.
I asked a simple question-and no answer.

Let's make this easier:
What happened v. Whitewater? v. the Scots?

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: schwanman on November 18, 2005, 12:21:24 pm
Calling off the dogs is just a fact of life. It happens in every sport and at every level. Teams stop applying a full-court press, stealing bases, throwing downfield, etc. In many football mismatches, the victorious coach could pick a final score and get there by his use of players on the field and the plays called.

Good for SJU that its reserves can preserve shutouts. In some of our games, we didn't. I don't think that will be even a minor factor in this game.

As Old Fighting Scot implied, unless Monmouth suffers 3-4 in-game injuries on both sides of the ball, our lack of depth is really not a factor.

That being said, I will admit this. If Tanney gets hurt, we'll be in big trouble.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 18, 2005, 12:22:16 pm
I hope it is the Johnnie fans who are saying WTF after the Scots end the game celebrating on the field.

Greg, what size waist are you?  I can have a kilt overnighted to you.   ;D


We sure aren't used to losing teams celebrating following our dominating them, so we probably would say WTF.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 12:22:21 pm
I can answer the UWW question... SNC got stomped 45-7.. didn't score until there was like 6 min. left in the game
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 12:25:27 pm
in pawslicker's defense, UWW beat everybody like that this year, and the wiac is supposed to be one of the best conferences around. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Outside View on November 18, 2005, 12:25:37 pm
Scottie-  I am just sick and tired of the pointless chatter from anyone from the MWC on this board.  I have been around the IIAC, WIAC, and MWC.  The champ from the MWC, year in and year out, would at best finish third in the other two conferences.  The talent level is considerable less in the MWC.  The reason the teams from the other conferences have loses is because the teams in them are all pretty equal (talent wise.)  The MWC cannot compete with the WIAC, IIAC, MIAC, and many other conferences in recruiting and it shows on the field.  I have been around these conference and board for over a year now, have not said a word, BUT I WILL BE SILENT NO MORE.  I have seen it all, the MWC and MC does not stand a chance against St. John's.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 12:27:08 pm
Good comeback, kiltedrat.   ???   After the Scots pull the upset, you'll be doing a little bit of this after the game....   :'(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 12:28:02 pm
Good job scottie you have awoken a sleeping giant
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 18, 2005, 12:28:20 pm
Lost.

I'll only go back two years on you.

What happened vs. (2004) Carleton (from Fresh Prince??), SNC, FFC, MC, CC. (2004) SNC, LFC, MC, CC, RC, IC, GC?

You "nearly" beat SNC? Nearly is the key word. In what sport can you get points for nearly doing something? Come on everybody, all at once - horseshoes.

I will tone down my barb next time when you bring up the 1995 national ranking. Guess what. You're conference doesn't care about natty rankings anymore. We want playoff wins, Old School.
 
Good luck on replacing DeGeorge.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 12:29:25 pm
Bottomline:  a little more speed on D and One more playmaker on O is keeping the scots from winning a national title with their current team.  But the intangibles of tanney, and the skills of the playmakers we do have will make saturday's game a lot more interesting than the D3football.com nation think........

Beware of the Scots Nation, the fever is spreading and reaching epic proportions!
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That, by far, is the most rediculous thing EVER said on ANY board.........
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 12:29:53 pm
outsideview,

from the Scots Nation.......

Go Back outside!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 18, 2005, 12:30:47 pm
Scottie-  I am just sick and tired of the pointless chatter from anyone from the MWC on this board.  I have been around the IIAC, WIAC, and MWC.  The champ from the MWC, year in and year out, would at best finish third in the other two conferences.  The talent level is considerable less in the MWC.  The reason the teams from the other conferences have loses is because the teams in them are all pretty equal (talent wise.)  The MWC cannot compete with the WIAC, IIAC, MIAC, and many other conferences in recruiting and it shows on the field.  I have been around these conference and board for over a year now, have not said a word, BUT I WILL BE SILENT NO MORE.  I have seen it all, the MWC and MC does not stand a chance against St. John's.

This from a former SNC coach? Are you kidding?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 12:32:42 pm
OV - You do know about the recruiting restrictions of the MWC, right?  Leave that issue out of the equation because there's nothing we can do about that.

It's about time to let the players decide this game on the field.  (Thank goodness!)  Please stay of our our room during basketball season.

GO SCOTS
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 12:33:55 pm
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That, by far, is the most rediculous thing EVER said on ANY board.........
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Why, you asked for an honest opinion and you got one.  I dont believe the Johnnies are national title caliber, I believe that they are good enough to be where they are, but have enought weaknesses to be shocked by MC.....

So there!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnniebread on November 18, 2005, 12:35:20 pm
Why just bring the Scots Nation when you could bring the whole damn MWC Nation? Greg perhaps you could persuade coach Purtill to come along as well. Gather as many former SNC players as possible and come relive the Collegeville experience one last time.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 18, 2005, 12:38:26 pm
Good comeback, kiltedrat.   ???   After the Scots pull the upset, you'll be doing a little bit of this after the game....   :'(


Wanna bet a t-shirt (new) on it?

SJU wins, you send me a Monmouth t-shirt, MC wins, I send you an SJU t-shirt?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on November 18, 2005, 12:38:47 pm
Greg

yes-Beloit has been down. Back to my original point, if a program that is not supposed to contend gives the team that is supposed to win the conference one of its closest games of the year what does that tell you about the state of the program?
Perhaps the loses of the many members of the "Little General's" staff have now become noticeable. Larry showed real promise this season--draw your own conclusions.

Let's say this---Beloit will bring in a new HC that will be able to recruit---Like the Little General did in the Spring of 99--and they will contend again---They finished strong and have the the best rb in the conference.

Let's both agree that we will cheer for MC on Saturday.

For MC to have a chance they have to keep the game close and not be overwhelmed SJU terrific defense. Patience is key--if they press mistakes will happen.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 12:43:01 pm
K-rat:  I don't do business on this site.  (I also have CD's available for the music fans in my new Minnesota fan club.)  But a t-shirt wager is probably possible since I'm a good sport.  Email me from my profile link.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 12:43:45 pm
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That, by far, is the most rediculous thing EVER said on ANY board.........
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Why, you asked for an honest opinion and you got one.  I dont believe the Johnnies are national title caliber, I believe that they are good enough to be where they are, but have enought weaknesses to be shocked by MC.....

So there!!!!

Name 5 weaknesses you believe the Johnnies have..

Here is what I am gathering the 5 for MON are---

1.  NO playoff experience (Clemens Stadium)
2.  Suspect O line against a dominant D- line
3.  Have not seen the speed SJU will bring to the table
4.  May be forced to become 1 dimensional without being able to establish a running game.
5.  The film that MON has seen of SJU, last 2 games shows VERY little of the O.  The last 2 have been as vanilla as I have seen in years....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 18, 2005, 12:44:53 pm
Rome,

Very impressed with LU's finish, and Beloits. LU should have been .500 if they would have played the cancelled game against Mac.

SNC still has a great core of coaches. Not sure what's going on with the new d-coordinator though. i don't know if he's staying (he came out of retirement) or if Marsh is coming back? It'll be intetersting to see.

That D really came around the second half of the season. Unfortunatly, it was too late.

We'll agree to support the Skirts. I didn't mean to call you a dope, pr whatever I said.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on November 18, 2005, 12:50:09 pm
I cant wait until tomorrow so we can talk about something more useful like why did Monmouth upset the Johnies and how do they get the jelly into the donut?  Good luck to both squads tomorrow. 
I have to ask myself one question?  Which of the Scots are going to show up tomorrow and make a play for the team?  If someone can stand up the team, the crowd, and the hype and make f*^kin play, the Scotties Nation will roll from their on out. 
"Ole always said, Bucket of Blood"  lets see that tomorrow
Go Scots Shock the DIII world
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 12:52:13 pm
I cant wait until tomorrow so we can talk about something more useful like why did Monmouth upset the Johnies and how do they get the jelly into the donut?  Good luck to both squads tomorrow. 
I have to ask myself one question?  Which of the Scots are going to show up tomorrow and make a play for the team?  If someone can stand up the team, the crowd, and the hype and make f*^kin play, the Scotties Nation will roll from their on out. 
"Ole always said, Bucket of Blood"  lets see that tomorrow
Go Scots Shock the DIII world

Ole got beat 69-3 this year!!  ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 12:56:07 pm
5.  The film that MON has seen of SJU, last 2 games shows VERY little of the O.  The last 2 have been as vanilla as I have seen in years....

And John LOVES inventing new stuff for the playoffs. I can't WAIT to see what strange formations and plays he comes up with for our kilt-wearing friends from the east.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 12:57:50 pm
Name 5 weaknesses you believe the Johnnies have..

Here is what I am gathering the 5 for MON are---

1.  NO playoff experience (Clemens Stadium)
2.  Suspect O line against a dominant D- line
3.  Have not seen the speed SJU will bring to the table
4.  May be forced to become 1 dimensional without being able to establish a running game.
5.  The film that MON has seen of SJU, last 2 games shows VERY little of the O.  The last 2 have been as vanilla as I have seen in years....
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My top 6 for the johnnies are:

1.  May be looking past MC's lack of playoff experience and not at the challenge they will actually pose.
2.  MC hasnt had a tough game in nearly two months, good luck trying to find quality tape on us.
3.  St. Joes is admittedly small up front, when Big pushes on Small, small falls, period.
4.  we say we need more speed, since when does a coach tell profess to the world what he "truly believes" is his biggest weakness, or will be his toughest matchup.
5.  SJU will not be able to run the ball up the middle, period.  this will make everything go to the hashes and prevent huge gains.  
6.  i believe once SJU sees they will not blow us out they may get anxious try to "win it all at once" and try to do things they arent accustomed to "hurry up and win."

yes, this is in a perfect Scots Nation World.  yes i believe SJU has a better chance at winning.  yes johnnie nation has earned all the respect they are given.  no, the weather will not be a factor, (are you kidding me, last i checked MC was in Illinois and half of our conference is in Whiz-Kan-sin...).  yes, MC is as good as advertised.  yes, MC will be ready to go come 10am (PT)!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 01:01:09 pm


 MC was in Illinois and half of our conference is in Whiz-Kan-sin...).  yes, MC is as good as advertised.  yes, MC will be ready to go come 10am (PT)!
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Hey der flatlander easy with the Wisconsin jabs ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 01:02:39 pm
ritz-
It's 69-6 and I am not even a Johnny fan!
And you call urself a Johnny!

Mighty Royal

You're both wrong. 63-9 ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 01:06:04 pm
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Sorry Kubiak, had some rough times on the hardwood in Rip-on, and in De Poor.  Havent been in illi in 3 months, in cali we a range named after bullwinkle's buddy.  i ski in 50 degree weather on this white stuff that looks like, feels like, but only vaguely resembles snow....... ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 01:17:05 pm
Alright, point by point rebuttal coming up :D

My top 6 for the johnnies are:

1.  May be looking past MC's lack of playoff experience and not at the challenge they will actually pose.

If you honestly think that the behavior of the posters in indicative of the preparation of the team, you're insane. John gets scared of Hamline during the week. He hasn't looked past a team in 57 years.

2.  MC hasnt had a tough game in nearly two months, good luck trying to find quality tape on us.

This is a wash. CC is the only close game we've played all year and unless you are planning on running whatever-the-Cobbers-call-their-O, it's a pretty pointless tape.

3.  St. Joes is admittedly small up front, when Big pushes on Small, small falls, period.

Ask the WIAC how well their big pushes on our small. With the exception of a few UW-EC losses in the regular season, SJU hasn't lost to a WIAC school in something like a decade. Time and time again I hear how our small D-Line is going to get pushed around and time and time again, the "little" guys are deceptively strong and disruptively quick. If a small, fast defense wasn't a successful strategy, would John have stuck with it for, well, ever? In 2000, everyone said that our D couldn't handle MUC's offensive line. We lost, yes, but 10-7 shocked everyone. In 2003, it was more of the same. We stomped MUC and held them to 6. Keep underestimating the D-Line. They love being dissed. Right, Duffy?

4.  we say we need more speed, since when does a coach tell profess to the world what he "truly believes" is his biggest weakness, or will be his toughest matchup.

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. How is this an SJU weakness?

5.  SJU will not be able to run the ball up the middle, period.  this will make everything go to the hashes and prevent huge gains.

We haven't been able to run up the middle all season. We have four smallish running backs. In the Concordia game, we had 25 rushes for 17 yards. Working between the tackles isn't a focus. I don't think I've EVER seen an SJU team that stresses a smashmouth running game up the middle. If that's what you expect us to do on O, you're preparing for the wrong team. As for preventing huge gains on the outside, good luck. These backs are as fast as any I've seen and the receivers block like linemen. There were several outside plays against STO that had no chance to work, but the back made the corner and was off to the races. We KNOW we aren't an up-the-middle team, so we FOCUS on sealing the corners.

6.  i believe once SJU sees they will not blow us out they may get anxious try to "win it all at once" and try to do things they arent accustomed to "hurry up and win."

Never in my life have I seen an SJU team get anxious and try to "win it all at once." If we don't blow you out, we don't blow you out. Big whoop. The Redlands game a few years back was one we were supposed to win handily. We couldn't put them away right away, so we just went ahead and won "normally". Period. Again, you're creating a hypothetical situation in which there is an assumption that the coaching staff would lose composure and, thus, lose control of the game. That doesn't happen with this team. Ever. There are a few centuries' worth of experience AT SJU on that sideline. Good luck rattling them.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 01:25:51 pm
shoes,

i am extremely sorry that i personally wont be able to "gameplan" or even have any type of impact on the game tomorrow.  i have never even put on pads.  i am making my assumptions from the sidelines, thus my phrase, "this would all be in a perfect Scots Nation world."  this is more wishful thinking rather than a espn gameday prognosis.  i was assuming your jest was the same as you have never seen MC play and no nothing but what Pcole and the D3 staff write.  (notice they didnt even have MC's location right in the original team-by-team analysis)

that was a great job though, and as i have said before this is fun.  i look forward to continuing it with UWW or Linfield next week. :P
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: repete on November 18, 2005, 01:29:18 pm
Of all the stuff, this might be the dumbest . . .

``3.  St. Joes is admittedly small up front, when Big pushes on Small, small falls, period.''

Paging Larry Kinnard, paging Larry Kinnard ...

...

How much per man did SJU give up in its most recent Stagg Bowl???

Note to OFS: the Stagg is the Division III championship game. It happens a few more games after the first round of playoffs. The first round is also known in the MWC as ``the end of the season.''
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 18, 2005, 01:32:04 pm
OFS,

To answer your signature question "How many Johnnies does it take to screw in a light bulb?"

A: 11 with 5000 standing around talking about how good they're doing and how great they will screw the next bulb in.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 01:36:49 pm
OFS, you are right. This IS fun. I enjoy taking the what ifs from your "perfect Scots Nation world" and rebutting them with whys from the "real world--that which bleeds Johnnie red". ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 01:38:33 pm
Name 5 weaknesses you believe the Johnnies have..

Here is what I am gathering the 5 for MON are---

1.  NO playoff experience (Clemens Stadium)
2.  Suspect O line against a dominant D- line
3.  Have not seen the speed SJU will bring to the table
4.  May be forced to become 1 dimensional without being able to establish a running game.
5.  The film that MON has seen of SJU, last 2 games shows VERY little of the O.  The last 2 have been as vanilla as I have seen in years....
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My top 6 for the johnnies are:

1.  May be looking past MC's lack of playoff experience and not at the challenge they will actually pose.
2.  MC hasnt had a tough game in nearly two months, good luck trying to find quality tape on us.
3.  St. Joes is admittedly small up front, when Big pushes on Small, small falls, period.
4.  we say we need more speed, since when does a coach tell profess to the world what he "truly believes" is his biggest weakness, or will be his toughest matchup.
5.  SJU will not be able to run the ball up the middle, period.  this will make everything go to the hashes and prevent huge gains.  
6.  i believe once SJU sees they will not blow us out they may get anxious try to "win it all at once" and try to do things they arent accustomed to "hurry up and win."

yes, this is in a perfect Scots Nation World.  yes i believe SJU has a better chance at winning.  yes johnnie nation has earned all the respect they are given.  no, the weather will not be a factor, (are you kidding me, last i checked MC was in Illinois and half of our conference is in Whiz-Kan-sin...).  yes, MC is as good as advertised.  yes, MC will be ready to go come 10am (PT)!

I'll take my 5 against your 6 and give you +3 on the line!  (no bets!!)   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 01:48:10 pm
surely the great johnnie nation can spare more than 3 to the lowly MWC champ.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: retagent on November 18, 2005, 02:01:13 pm
I feel as if some instruction is needed for our MWC posters who don't seem to quite understand the mindset of we SJU Nation members.

You have to realize that every football season is looked upon as another chance to win a National Championship. Every year, we believe that it is possible. You can't imagine how after last years down season (7 - 3, with the three losses by a total of 5 points) has stoked the fire for this year's run.

We have been spoiled, to some extent, by our perennial success. It also has taught us that St John's can win any game they start, and, most likely they will. We have heard all the smack from other teams' fans, from all other conferences, and have become quite good at the give and take. The Scots, on the other hand, have already had a successful season. You can see that in the talk about just, "making a good run into the playoffs." If SJU does not win the Stagg, it will be a hard pill to swallow.

The "Big beats Little," comment was just another sign that not only don't they get it, it also shows that they have no sense of history, or OFS would have seen the irony of it before typing it. As repete alluded to, the MUC O line outweighed the SJU D line by an average of about 55 - 60 lbs. and were reputed to be athletic. If the zebras would have called all the holding penalties against the Mount, the game would still be going on. 

In summary, Good Luck! You'll need it.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 02:15:18 pm
In defense of MC's stands, many fans like to sit on the big hill on the home side. But, yes, we'd like to get more seating, and we'd also like to get pro turf and a nicer press box. Plans for all are in the works.



Yeah I see they come by the hundreds and thousands to sit on the hill
http://www.monm.edu/sportsinfo/football/2002/images/gaskill02s.jpg
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 02:21:32 pm
wait wait, MC is in Ohio now....... ???

well they did just steal away our president, he is a great man, we miss you giese!!!

retagent, i get it.  i dont need you, to explain winning to me.  some of you johnnies really need to take a step back, and realize something a lot of the posting you see from MC, is not coming from former players.  rather proud alumni and/or those who just enjoy following the team, Like Myself.  I root for MC because i know how a winning fball tradition can change the dynamic of a smallish town Monmouth=9900, and an even smaller campus MC=1300 (largest enrollment ever).  We are not claiming to be Texas (going against USC).  more like we are hoping we can become Gonzaga-bball (perenially strong david contender against the D3 goliaths).  The MWC will never be a great fball power top to bottom, but we will always compete.  i as well as the Scots Nation are just hoping that this is the year gonzaga makes it to the final four......

as far as the trash talk goes, would it be more fun for you guys if i just pulled a Knox(our rival) and bent over and took it.  Naw, not me.  i was a part of Fighting Scots teams that win all the time and do get national recognition.  i know what it is like to look down on opponents and i hope for my scotties to one day get to SJU's level.

Quite Frankly, yea your good, but so are we, and maybe this year will be ours 8)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 02:23:24 pm
In defense of MC's stands, many fans like to sit on the big hill on the home side. But, yes, we'd like to get more seating, and we'd also like to get pro turf and a nicer press box. Plans for all are in the works.



Yeah I see they come by the hundreds and thousands to sit on the hill
http://www.monm.edu/sportsinfo/football/2002/images/gaskill02s.jpg


that side in the photo is three years ago against Nubs and happens to be right in front of the fraternity houses, not exactly a "family" atmosphere......
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 02:28:10 pm
In defense of MC's stands, many fans like to sit on the big hill on the home side. But, yes, we'd like to get more seating, and we'd also like to get pro turf and a nicer press box. Plans for all are in the works.



Yeah I see they come by the hundreds and thousands to sit on the hill
http://www.monm.edu/sportsinfo/football/2002/images/gaskill02s.jpg


that side in the photo is three years ago against Nubs and happens to be right in front of the fraternity houses, not exactly a "family" atmosphere......



just giving you sh#% ofs,  I'm bored and the central faithful dont want to play
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 02:32:22 pm
keep givin, i can take it....

im bored as well and cant wait for beer 30 so i can go home...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 02:35:59 pm
surely the great johnnie nation can spare more than 3 to the lowly MWC champ.....

That is out of your 6 "weaknesses"for the Johnnies....

For the game ----- I'll give you +30
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 02:38:19 pm
ah, (light comes on).  you are too kind, ill take your 30 and raise you 20 positive karma points......
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 02:40:09 pm
You've got no karma points with which to bet! ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 02:53:17 pm
There is no way this kid in Monmouth's weight room can put up 320....anybody want to disagree

Mighty Royal

I think those are actually plastic tires from a couple of "big wheels"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 02:56:42 pm
mighty you are correct about hte kid in the pic, it was just a great photo op for him..... 

i think he is a transfer from collegeville, mn, if i remember correctly he said something about being to big to play d-line at his former school :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 02:57:54 pm
i think he is a transfer from collegeville, mn, if i remember correctly he said something about being to big to play d-line at his former school :D

Got a chuckle out of me for that one. Props :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 18, 2005, 03:24:57 pm
OneArmedScot - Thanks for the clarification on your prediction.  I get your point now but you know that us MWC fans get a little jumpy at times with the negative views of our conference! :P

Not much else to say at this point--we're less than 24 hours away from kickoff now.  Too many posts over the last couple days and not enough time for me to keep up with all of them so I won't even try to respond to all the stuff that I could have.  This will probably be my last post before heading up north later tonight.  Can't wait to tailgate with some old Fighting Scots (oh, and looking forward to meeting/tailgating with some Johnnies also I guess ;)) and then see a hell of a game!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 03:28:19 pm
Damnit,

i found a great picture on the johnnies website and i cant post it.  help me out......
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 03:29:55 pm
Thays because they have blocked you from using it :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 03:30:35 pm
Damnit,

i found a great picture on the johnnies website and i cant post it.  help me out......

Cut and paste the URL on the post!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 03:32:42 pm
3.  St. Joes is admittedly small up front, when Big pushes on Small, small falls, period.

I think this is the way Scot thinks it will be!!!


http://www.aldotwaste.com/userfiles/DavidGoliath2.jpg

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 18, 2005, 03:33:35 pm
I would like to see it differently but here it is



Johnnies - 42

Scots      - 24



MC I'm guessing (and only guessing) won't be able to run for more than a hundo, and once they begin to pass every down the D-Line will pin their ears back and come.  Everyone else will be expecting pass and be ready for haffner.  Tanney will be under pressure all day.  In turn a long day for the MWC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 03:35:22 pm
mighty and shoes,

i emailed you, i believe my work software is a lil old school so maybe you can post the picture of your great Dlineman for all to see ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 03:36:40 pm
3.  St. Joes is admittedly small up front, when Big pushes on Small, small falls, period.

I think this is the way Scot thinks it will be!!!


http://www.aldotwaste.com/userfiles/DavidGoliath2.jpg



what u dont see the .45 he's packing do you?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 03:37:52 pm
I would like to see it differently but here it is



Johnnies - 42

Scots      - 24



MC I'm guessing (and only guessing) won't be able to run for more than a hundo, and once they begin to pass every down the D-Line will pin their ears back and come.  Everyone else will be expecting pass and be ready for haffner.  Tanney will be under pressure all day.  In turn a long day for the MWC.

The first + I've given to a MON poster this week....There are some sensible people out there!!!! :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 18, 2005, 03:39:05 pm
3.  St. Joes is admittedly small up front, when Big pushes on Small, small falls, period.

I think this is the way Scot thinks it will be!!!


http://www.aldotwaste.com/userfiles/DavidGoliath2.jpg



what u dont see the .45 he's packing do you?

.45, is that the % chance MON has of winning??     ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 03:45:16 pm
http://www.csbsju.edu/clubsports/12.jpg

this must be the no pads, no hitting practice..... :-*
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 18, 2005, 03:48:07 pm
http://www.csbsju.edu/clubsports/12.jpg

this must be the no pads, no hitting practice..... :-*
Sorry OFS, wrong college.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 03:59:55 pm
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4063&more=1

johnnies, is that you? ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 04:04:30 pm
Standing? Yup.

(C'mon man. You gotta stop walking into these.)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 04:11:30 pm
thanks, for the help shoes.  i will give my own pats on the back.  this must be your terrifying domino.  ill have to admit, he does look menacing.....HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 04:20:40 pm
That massive o-line SJU has been telling us about...

http://www.pbase.com/rodenhiser/image/36879510
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 04:21:37 pm
score two for the scotties!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 04:22:58 pm
Who said SJU had a massive o-line.  I believe I said they weren't big.

Scottie-dumber than a box of rocks!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 18, 2005, 04:35:42 pm
Well, on that note...since the SJU folks don't want me in this site, I will quote the immortal Billy Madison.  "Talky talky.  No more talky."

Enjoy the game Duffman.  Don't fall in any wells.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 18, 2005, 04:40:50 pm
Enjoy the loss, Mr. Sensitive.  Have a box of kleenex ready.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 04:54:33 pm
we will be just fine ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 05:10:36 pm
here's my vision of the SJU mc game... hint the big guy is fron SJU

[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Buckman on November 18, 2005, 05:34:31 pm
That massive o-line SJU has been telling us about...

http://www.pbase.com/rodenhiser/image/36879510

That looks like the same crowd size as the Monmouth game pictures I've been seeing.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 18, 2005, 06:09:38 pm
last one before the day of reckoning....

GO SCOTS!!

Beware the Scots Nation!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 18, 2005, 06:10:52 pm
Catch you tomorrow, OFS. I'm out. I hope you're as gracious in defeat as I am in victory... though I'm not sure that's saying much :P
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnniebread on November 18, 2005, 06:19:47 pm
Any idea how many chartered buses carrying Scots fans? Wondering what the visitor side will look like tomorrow.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on November 18, 2005, 06:23:33 pm
I have a few questions for the karma fascists who have invaded our board.
Isn't it bad karma to dole out negative karma or to create false positive karma?
Wouldn't it also be bad karma to manipulate karma, i.e. the fable of the boy who injured a bird in order to be rewarded after he nursed it back to health?
With all the apparent bad karma generation by the Johns' faithful couldn't the result be an upset loss of their beloved team this weekend. ;D
Or would it result in an upset loss happening in another lifetime? :'(
 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnniebread on November 18, 2005, 06:35:51 pm
PapaSmurf, that is a well thought out and very deep question. My guess is it may result in a loss in another lifetime since there's no way in hell the Johnnies will lose tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 18, 2005, 06:59:09 pm
papa smurf(http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/5025/bunny8kn.png)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 07:07:25 pm
SJU92,

I think it has something to do with hearing a tree falling in the woods or the sound one hand clapping makes... or something like that, I don't know
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 18, 2005, 07:10:02 pm
That sounds like a cheese head answer.... ::)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 18, 2005, 07:11:45 pm
Cheeseheads rule
all bow down to Saint Favre
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DustySJU on November 18, 2005, 08:53:20 pm

MWC/Scots;  Welcome to the Valley of Death and the Gates of Hell.

May you enjoy your Saturday in Collegeville.

developing....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sjusection105 on November 18, 2005, 09:10:03 pm

MWC/Scots;  Welcome to the Valley of Death and the Gates of Hell.

May you enjoy your Saturday in Collegeville.

developing....

That is just one reason why I admire Dusty, he doesn't mix words 8)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 19, 2005, 10:33:09 am
Does anyone know what time the webcast begins?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 19, 2005, 10:34:29 am
Should be on about 11:30 or so for a noon kickoff, maybe even 11.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 19, 2005, 11:43:07 am
Thanks, K-rat. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 19, 2005, 11:54:51 am
It's up and running now. Probably not a bad idea to log on now to beat the rush.

It usually gets to max capacity about 10 min before kickoff.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 19, 2005, 12:05:45 pm
I'm on... 

Go Scots!   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 19, 2005, 02:17:05 pm
Score?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 19, 2005, 02:18:05 pm
27 -3 SJU
at the half
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 19, 2005, 02:19:30 pm
Sounds about right
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 19, 2005, 02:21:28 pm
UWW 24 Central 7
00:30 left in 2nd
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 19, 2005, 02:22:42 pm
So, UWW, SJU is round 2

I'm liking UWW to win it all.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 19, 2005, 02:23:25 pm
So, UWW, SJU is round 2

I'm liking UWW to win it all.

I like the way you think ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: retagent on November 19, 2005, 02:31:33 pm
78  Hey I just saw in your post script that WW was WIAC Chamions in a good number of years. Either you dropped a "P" or added an "N". I'm the self appointed spelling/grammer overlord. Since you're serving your country (Do you work with the "Ebony H2O people?) I'll just give you a nudge and not be an as%&*@e about it.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kubiack78 on November 19, 2005, 02:34:20 pm
78  Hey I just saw in your post script that WW was WIAC Chamions in a good number of years. Either you dropped a "P" or added an "N". I'm the self appointed spelling/grammer overlord. Since you're serving your country (Do you work with the "Ebony H2O people?) I'll just give you a nudge and not be an as%&*@e about it.

I'll have to change that... thanks.  No I dont work for Blackwater ( they die too much)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 19, 2005, 02:38:50 pm
Greg, did you play O-line?  If so, do you nave any eligibility left??? 

8 sacks for the Johnnies so far.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 19, 2005, 02:44:33 pm
O-line and D-line are being dominated by the johnnies.

who the hell is mcnamara and when did he steal michael strahans body....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 19, 2005, 02:45:32 pm
Mcnamara is playing like he wants to be SJU's 3rd all american D-lineman!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 19, 2005, 02:51:34 pm
He's getting to Tanney faster than the SJU fans can destroy my karma!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: retagent on November 19, 2005, 02:53:56 pm
                                             VOTE ON THIS ONE!

      1.) Speed Kills

      2.) Big Beats Little

I think Monmouth must have decided to try and stop Good and Dumo, thinking Macnamara wouldn't hurt them. Bad Move.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 19, 2005, 03:40:17 pm
quote]

That, by far, is the most rediculous thing EVER said on ANY board.........
Quote

Why, you asked for an honest opinion and you got one.  I dont believe the Johnnies are national title caliber, I believe that they are good enough to be where they are, but have enought weaknesses to be shocked by MC.....

So there!!!!

Name 5 weaknesses you believe the Johnnies have..

Here is what I am gathering the 5 for MON are---

1.  NO playoff experience (Clemens Stadium)
2.  Suspect O line against a dominant D- line
3.  Have not seen the speed SJU will bring to the table
4.  May be forced to become 1 dimensional without being able to establish a running game.
5.  The film that MON has seen of SJU, last 2 games shows VERY little of the O.  The last 2 have been as vanilla as I have seen in years....

Call me Karnack!!!   ;D

Congrats on a good year MON, the people we met today, including the non-playoof roster players, we a great group!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 19, 2005, 03:45:22 pm
My new Monmouth friends:

Welcome to the best of the best. SNC heard all about the "small" players in year's past. Then Hood and McCambridge wiped their asses with us. Same like this Duno and MacNamara I suppose.

Anyways, nice season, and see you in DePere next season.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 19, 2005, 03:45:35 pm
i hope the johnnies go all the way, it'll make this one sting a lil less.....

for those at the game, did we at least compete (outside of the score)?  in a 61 point loss did anyone at MC have a chance to impress upon johnnie nation.  

johnnies-good luck, and dominate the rest of the way!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: BumFighter on November 19, 2005, 03:48:00 pm
sorry bout the ass-whooping.  welcome to collegeville.

i was worries as much as i was afyter stolaf scored theor fielgoal.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: retagent on November 19, 2005, 03:48:40 pm
OFS and Scottie. You are stand up guys to stick around after that game. Your QB was about 20 for 30 even with the pressure. Good Luck next year,
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: John Arps on November 19, 2005, 04:05:23 pm
for those at the game, did we at least compete (outside of the score)?  in a 61 point loss did anyone at MC have a chance to impress upon johnnie nation. 

OFS - are you dumb or something?  you lost 62-3.  How can you even consider yourself competitive.  Heck, when SNC lost 2 yrs ago we were more competitive in the game and SJU won it all that year.  Also, LFC's loss 3 years ago looks better than this.  I thought Monmouth would get beat but not this bad. 

Hope all the monmouth faithful are off there high now.  YOU'RE not as GOOD as you thought you were.  Welcome to the National Tournament. 

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 19, 2005, 04:48:22 pm
for those at the game, did we at least compete (outside of the score)?  in a 61 point loss did anyone at MC have a chance to impress upon johnnie nation. 

OFS - are you dumb or something?  you lost 62-3.  How can you even consider yourself competitive.  Heck, when SNC lost 2 yrs ago we were more competitive in the game and SJU won it all that year.  Also, LFC's loss 3 years ago looks better than this.  I thought Monmouth would get beat but not this bad. 

Hope all the monmouth faithful are off there high now.  YOU'RE not as GOOD as you thought you were.  Welcome to the National Tournament. 



Three things....
1.  Players a lot more classy than SNC's 2 years ago.
2.  Players a lot more classy, save 1 misconduct, than SNC 2 years ago
3.  Obviously better than SNC this year!!!

Johnnie out.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: AnotherJohnnie on November 19, 2005, 05:06:01 pm
Any word on Monmouth's injured player?  SJU lost a couple of guys for the rest of the season it sounds like, but the way that Monmouth guy was flailing his limbs on the ground, I am really worried about him.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: AnotherJohnnie on November 19, 2005, 05:10:32 pm
AJ,

They said on the radio broadcast he had a "severe concussion."  He was able to move everything.  Sounds like he's going to be hurting for a while but hopefully will be fine.

That's hopefully good news.  You just don't know when that stuff happens.  I did see Dr. M come out of the rescue squad vehicle before the ambulance arrived, so I figured he must be stable.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 19, 2005, 05:24:08 pm
In terms of good play, I thought Tanney did very well.  He remained calm and put up pretty good numbers under incredible pressure.  I also notice that the defense kept playing hard - a couple solid hits - when it didn't matter anymore.  There are only a few programs that are able to achieve at the highest level, and if Monmouth decide to double their efforts they may make it.  A few guys had talent, now it's just down to practice and execution.

I hope the injured recover well.  Hopefully Good can play with a cast.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 19, 2005, 05:45:40 pm
From the MIAC board:


Good News from the hospital (Literally)  Good's wrist is not broken, just a sprain, he'll be a go for next week.  Sounds like the Monmoth kid is not in real good shape - keep him in your thoughts and prayers.


Johnnie nation will keep him in our thoughts and prayers. His name was Morrison, correct?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Retired Old Rat on November 19, 2005, 05:46:27 pm
On the MIAC board it has been posted that the injured Monnmouth player (I am sorry I don't know his name) is not doing so great.

Keep him in your prayers.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sjusection105 on November 19, 2005, 05:47:47 pm
i hope the johnnies go all the way, it'll make this one sting a lil less.....

for those at the game, did we at least compete (outside of the score)?  in a 61 point loss did anyone at MC have a chance to impress upon johnnie nation.  

johnnies-good luck, and dominate the rest of the way!!!!
I don't want to come off as sounding "harsh" or being a jerk but the answer is no.
Speed kills & the Mon O & D line had none,SJU just did what they have done for years. Also the Mon. LBs had no chance of covering SJU RBs running pass patterns in the seam.
Other than the over thrown pass that was turned into a FG this was he St. Olaf game all over again  except for the color of uniforms.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sju kid2 on November 19, 2005, 06:44:07 pm
hey old fighting scot will you please admit to all us johnnies fans that have taken over your board that all ur top 6 reasons y "you will beat the johnnies" went totally opposite direction of ur theory ;D ;D ;)


GO JOHNNIES


                                                  MC       SJU
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............    44--3   36-287

Mitch Tanney 20-30-0-118   OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!OVERRATED!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: John Arps on November 19, 2005, 06:48:59 pm
Quote

Three things....
1.  Players a lot more classy than SNC's 2 years ago.
2.  Players a lot more classy, save 1 misconduct, than SNC 2 years ago
3.  Obviously better than SNC this year!!!

Johnnie out.....
Quote

Ritz - pretty sure the comment had nothing to do with class.  Did one or two people make the SNC program look less classy - Yes, but that did not represent the whole Team.  Speaking of class, I remember a couple of SJU players, who will remain namelss, that didn't get off the bench and shake hands at the end of the game.  Regard of one or two players not being classy, that's pretty classless on SJU's part.   Enough said on that subject.  OFS asked if monmouth was competitive and I simply responded, nothing wrong with that.  They did beat us this year, and I'll give you that, congrats to them.  

Prediction next week:

UWW 50
SJU 10

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 19, 2005, 06:53:54 pm
Just got home from the game....Thought I was having flashbacks from the St. Olaf game.  Anyways, your players are first class, took an ass kickin' well(not being a smart ass, they showed they could loose without gettin cheap) and your fans are also great and also now believers. Thanks for playing and good luck next yr. ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: retagent on November 19, 2005, 07:06:02 pm
Arps - Think about it. Only one team scored more than 16 points in a game all season, and that was an anomaly with three blocked punts that turned intp TD's late. Those were the only blocked punts all season. The least number of points put up by SJU all year was 21 against another first round winner - Concordia. 50 - 10? You must be on peyote. Also think how much worse that makes Monmouth look.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 19, 2005, 08:02:41 pm
Any more info on the guy that was carted off?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 19, 2005, 08:15:15 pm
Nice to meet some Monmouth folks, even though the Roush wasn't there.  I hope that your injured player is okay.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Mr.Shoes on November 19, 2005, 08:15:51 pm
Scots, ya'll have some awesome fans. I was VERY impressed with the number of people who made the trip and I had a great time talking with those MC fans that I met at the tailgate. You were supportive of your team and loud the whole time, even as things got completely out of control for your boys. I feel bad for the way you had to exit your first playoff appearance (right?), but you happened to run into an SJU team that's been getting better all season long and is really clicking right now. I hope you enjoyed the trip to Collegeville nonetheless and that we were gracious hosts. It was fun to have you. That science center parking lot was HOPPING. I wish more teams came with fans who were that enthusiastic. Oh, and kickass bagpiping. That guy was awfully good. Granted, I know nothing about bagpiping, but it sure sounded impressive.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 19, 2005, 08:20:26 pm
Arps, I played from '99 to '02 and if anyone didn't shake hands it was because you guys were classless rejects.  SNC sucks now and always has.  Maybe you can try to win your conference next year and try to prove that you're worthy of NCAA playoffs, but I doubt you will.  I'd rather play MC anyday.  They conducted themselves with class and deserve credit for that.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 19, 2005, 08:37:03 pm
Arps, I played from '99 to '02 and if anyone didn't shake hands it was because you guys were classless rejects.  SNC sucks now and always has.  Maybe you can try to win your conference next year and try to prove that you're worthy of NCAA playoffs, but I doubt you will.  I'd rather play MC anyday.  They conducted themselves with class and deserve credit for that.

You're a twat, just like the rest of your friends. You're **** doesn't stink, right?

Get over yourself. You were the biggst bunch of pricks we ever played against, but we're severely outnumbered on this site, so we look bad. Have your fun, and good luck getting tanned next week.

You just want teams to lose with class. What? We didn't have class? We respected you, but now I know you were on the field at the same time as me, and you talk this gibberish, you, my friend, have no class.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 19, 2005, 08:42:05 pm
You're a twat, just like the rest of your friends. You're **** doesn't stink, right?

Get over yourself. You were the biggst bunch of pricks we ever played against, but we're severely outnumbered on this site, so we look bad. Have your fun, and good luck getting tanned next week.

You just want teams to lose with class. What? We didn't have class? We respected you, but now I know you were on the field at the same time as me, and you talk this gibberish, you, my friend, have no class.


Greg,
A guy from a school who's TE flips off the home sidelines saying someone else has no class... that's gonna hold a lot of water.

You don't look bad because you're outnumbered on the site, you look bad because of how you portrayed yourselves on the field.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: War Pig on November 19, 2005, 09:48:36 pm
Class or no class, the Midwest Conference has once again proven that they are way behind the rest of DIII football.  If any MWC administrators read this board I hope you're ashamed of the stupid rules that you limit your conference with.  You deserve to get smoked in the playoffs every year. 

I congratulate the players and coaches of Monmouth College on a great season.  It is too bad that you have to play in league that supports mediocrity! 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: TRU on November 19, 2005, 09:53:21 pm
KR

Could not agree more ----that SNC team was lacking in many things and class was one of them. As I remember most of the other MWC posters that year also said the same thing about SNC- not too many friends in their own conference as I recall.  Didn't Pat have to close down the MWC site for a while? ???


Good game today SJU today and thanks Monmouth hope to see you again next year-- stick it too SNC again.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 19, 2005, 10:03:11 pm
I'm happy to read that, other than the outcome, the MC team and fans represented themselves well.  Obviously, SJU was on a much higher level today.  Like other first time participants (with harsh exits) I trust that "Camp Monmouth" will build on this experience for future playoff appearances.   As far as I'm concerned, this was a proud "first step" for the team.  The Scots will be back.

If anyone gets any updates on Morrison, please share.

"Job Well Done Monmouth Football in 2005!"
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Title: Morrison's Condition
Post by: MWCSID2005 on November 19, 2005, 10:13:53 pm
Just to quell any rumors or otherwise, word from the Monmouth Sports Information Office is that Morrison is ok and suffered a bad stinger.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on November 19, 2005, 10:16:04 pm
Glad to hear that and hope that's all that it was.  ;DThat was not a good site.....could have heard a pin drop
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: farley101 on November 19, 2005, 10:17:10 pm
Yeah i don't think I've ever been in Clemens at a game when it was that quiet.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 19, 2005, 10:33:06 pm
You could've heard a pin drop there today, it was absolutely silent in Clemens Stadium for about 10 minutes while they tended to the Monmouth player. I heard that it was a concussion and not a spinal injury, like first thought. Talking to a Monmouth fan who talked like he had good info, he said it sounded like the kid was doing OK.
The game... Monmouth came out firing and their QB is a stud. Did great under pressure, but  the pressure eventually overwhelmed him. Great to meet all of the Monmouth fans today and the bagpipes were awesome! Big hole to fill after Tanney graduates, but hopefully we'll meet again.
Mathiason is out, was having surgery before the game was even over on a broken tibia I think. Zahaur and Good's parents seem to think their kids will be OK. Lot of kids banged up today. Will be tough against UWW next week. Hopefully everyone can get healthy.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on November 19, 2005, 11:20:35 pm
Chalk one up for Pawlick.  You got me good.  Point proven.  You're everything the MC fans said and more.

I'm done with the MWC board.  Bring on the WIAC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: John Arps on November 19, 2005, 11:46:46 pm
All you SJU fans just think your s*** doesn't stink it kills me.  You can go ahead and say the whole SNC team that was classless, that's fine, not going to hurt us any.  ONE, maybe I should repeat that, ONE person acted inappropriately, doesn't mean the rest of the team acted or treated oppenents the same way. 

I feel like SJU fans are the "pot calling the kettle black".  I made 2 trips to Clemens while I was there and SJU fans are just as classless.  The s*** that I heard from fans during the game was unbelievable.  I still stand by my prior post that even if you thought SNC was classless that year because of ONE player, that's fine, but SJU players should still shake hands with the oppenent after the game.  I can think of two games SNC should never shave shaken the hand of the oppenents for cheaps shots and fights, but we still had the class after the game to shake hands. 

The only reason anyone had a problem with us in prior years is cause we put so many points on the board against everyone we played.  If that is classless, fine.  I think the picture posted by SJU92#57 shows how classless SJU fans are.  Not cool to make fun of mentally retarded people.  That's low by itself.  I can completely understand why people in Minnesota hate SJU people, you look down upon everyone else as second class people. 

I must be on the reefer.  UWW 50 SJU 10

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 20, 2005, 12:11:56 am
ONE, maybe I should repeat that, ONE person acted inappropriately, doesn't mean the rest of the team acted or treated oppenents the same way. 
I'll try not to judge your conference or team by your stupid posts. You're an idiot!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 20, 2005, 12:22:30 am
The only reason anyone had a problem with us in prior years is cause we put so many points on the board against everyone we played.

Everyone?

You've never given us that reason to have a problem with you. My problem with SNC was Seth flipping off our sidelines multiple times, multiple late hits and cheap shots when the game wasn't even close, and this attitude that winning the MWC year after year entitles SNC to some sort of national respect.

You get national respect by winning in the playoffs, not by winning your conference.

I have nothing but respect for the Monmouth fans on this board, the ones that were at the game and especially for their coach and players. They were an all around class act and despite being over-matched, played/cheered hard and left their best effort on the field in the spirit of the game.

When SNC can live up to those standards, then I will respect them as I do Monmouth.


As far as the picture, I agree that it was classless, if you would have read the two posts after it, 2 SJU fans including myself were the first to say so. Don't get all bent out of shape by SJU fans judging SNC based on Seth's actions (apparently you missed the others) when you're going to go hypocrite and make the same judgements based on one SJU poster.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnniebackup67 on November 20, 2005, 12:57:08 am
hey Kilted-  i dropped a deuce and it smells like roses, how about you?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 20, 2005, 01:10:29 am
For what it's wirth,
Mine is more of a petunia and lilac hybrid.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 20, 2005, 01:14:28 am
You can have THAT conversation on your own board...   :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Retired Old Rat on November 20, 2005, 01:37:05 am
I think for many of us the problems with SNC was the coaches.  Seth was not pulled for even one play after the bird flip.  Your coach's halftime speech, which I will not detail, was classless.  The multiple PF's are a reflection of the coaching staff.

p.s.  Since I graduated from St. John's I don't **** any more.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnnie_esq on November 20, 2005, 08:49:14 am
I'm not even going to bother with SNC and their actions and reputation.

To the Monmouth contingent, congratulations on a ground-breaking season and best wishes in the future.  I have nothing but respect for your program and your enthusiastic fans, who came out in force to support your team.  I hope you enjoyed Collegeville, save the game score, because that atmosphere is what D3 is all about-- enjoying the experience--and the Scots did that well.

You were fine representatives of the MWC-- you just ran into a good team yesterday.  Tanney is a stud-- no question about that, and his ability to scramble scared the hell out of me.  I'm just glad that we ended up keeping him behind the line more times than in front of it.

Prayers to your injured player, and a speedy and whole recovery.

Love to see you in Collegeville and representing the MWC again next year.  Go Scots!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 20, 2005, 12:07:04 pm
I just want to congratulate the Fighting Scots on a season that no one can take from them!!  You did what non of us previous Scots could do, and I'm glad you reached the goal that was set before you.  You have nothing to be ashamed about.  I hope that you have learned from the classes before you to always, no matter what, keep your heads high!!

Cookoff - I was told that the best hamburgers were cooked by the SJU fans at the tailgating.  WRONG!!!  I had a cheeseburger from the SJU tailgating, which I will say was delicious, but then I had a cheeseburger from Mr. Blaesing!!!

Collegeville was a nice place.  SJU fans you treated us well on most occasions.  Tailgating was a blast, except your security boys.....come on, you are a wet campus and they still dont let you walk around with beer?  I thought they were just going to card people, which I believe is what they should have done, but thats me.

The one thing that showed the class of the SJU students, was when one of our players took a knee to the back of his head and went into convoltions.  A fan decided to talk **** while he was laying there knocked out.  I dont think it was any of the SJU posters, but you have to agree with me when that happened.  As former football players, it is called respect! 

I want to wish D-Mo a fast and healthy recovery from the hit he took Saturday.

It was nice meeting the fellow posters, and I'm sorry I didnt bring the ROUSH!!!

SJU you have a very nice team.  Your D-line is amazing.  I wish you the best of luck on your way to where ever your players take you.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncla42 on November 20, 2005, 02:09:16 pm
Very few thing will cause me to post I am more of an observer of the board but I must say something even if it will be drowned out by all the SJU posts.  I just feel very disrespected as a SNC football play 2000-2003 and playing in both St. John's games.
First of all there have been refference to the snc program's classlessness and unpopularity.   St. Johns hates us because of one talented but young player who lost his head and flipped off the crowd (not bench)  which is not exceptable.  Several Senior including myself said something to him after that.  Get over it SJU is was a long time ago plus you won and evenually became national champs.  Dont get me wrong i hated it too but people make mistakes move on.  I have moved on that Blake and several others never shook my hand after my last game of my career.  I think any football player that has ever made it through all you must go through to be a football player at the college level for 4yrs deserves that.  I also recall mention of cheap shots.  I was on the field for both games and did not see any cheap shot in fact I just recently watched my copy of the tapes of the game and there wasn't anything to cry over.  Both teams playing very hard and hitting hard to the whistle.a
By the way one of the SJU posters mentioned that some of the Monmouth fans didn't like us either.  The reason the conference hates us is because we have been champ for so long (till this year, Congrats Scotts).  It is very lonely at the top.  By the way SJU I have talked to the St Thomas (a team I respect a ton) and they dont like you either WOW what a revolation.
One last comment, The MWC is not the strongest conference that is true.  One reason would be the restrictions that are placed on us by the conference.  Also many of our teams are competing with the WIAC for recruits.  WIAC is not restricted and has larger school.  Not excuses just facts.  I would just like a little respect for how far the conference has come (largely to do with SNC).  SNC has never been blown out of a playoff game.  We always are very competative.  Even against SJU.  I believe our playoff proformance is impressive since we always have been bracketed against big name school on the road (except simpson which we beat).  We took Augustana to the wire in 1999, 2000 were up at half against #4 Central, the next year gave SJU a scare.  In 2003 we won a the first row game and then ran into the National champ and still did get blown out.  If you look at that game the first half we played the pretty tough and shut down alot of their bread and butter but SJU has too much fire power and had some other thing up there sleeves to open us up.  hey all the respect in the world for that.  that was a great team.  I just dont understand why we don't deserve respect.  Even last year we had LaCrosse dead but gave it back to them.  None of the teams we lost to are bad teams.  All have fantastic traditions and are always a threat to go deep into the playoffs.  Bottom line SJU GET OFF OUR BOARD if you wont even respect that.

Monmouth fans one word of advice.  Dont expect national respect untill a MWC team goes deep into the playoffs.  We will not get seated well nor will we be ranked all that high.  just learn to live with it.  SNC did and we are slowly getting more respect I believe.

Sorry about the novel fellas.  I am going to try and make it to the SJU and UWW game seeing that it is 40 mins away from were i live.  Good luck SJU, UWW is stacked
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncla42 on November 20, 2005, 02:10:13 pm
Very few thing will cause me to post I am more of an observer of the board but I must say something even if it will be drowned out by all the SJU posts.  I just feel very disrespected as a SNC football play 2000-2003 and playing in both St. John's games.
First of all there have been refference to the snc program's classlessness and unpopularity.   St. Johns hates us because of one talented but young player who lost his head and flipped off the crowd (not bench)  which is not exceptable.  Several Senior including myself said something to him after that.  Get over it SJU is was a long time ago plus you won and evenually became national champs.  Dont get me wrong i hated it too but people make mistakes move on.  I have moved on that Blake and several others never shook my hand after my last game of my career.  I think any football player that has ever made it through all you must go through to be a football player at the college level for 4yrs deserves that.  I also recall mention of cheap shots.  I was on the field for both games and did not see any cheap shot in fact I just recently watched my copy of the tapes of the game and there wasn't anything to cry over.  Both teams playing very hard and hitting hard to the whistle.a
By the way one of the SJU posters mentioned that some of the Monmouth fans didn't like us either.  The reason the conference hates us is because we have been champ for so long (till this year, Congrats Scotts).  It is very lonely at the top.  By the way SJU I have talked to the St Thomas (a team I respect a ton) and they dont like you either WOW what a revolation.
One last comment, The MWC is not the strongest conference that is true.  One reason would be the restrictions that are placed on us by the conference.  Also many of our teams are competing with the WIAC for recruits.  WIAC is not restricted and has larger school.  Not excuses just facts.  I would just like a little respect for how far the conference has come (largely to do with SNC).  SNC has never been blown out of a playoff game.  We always are very competative.  Even against SJU.  I believe our playoff proformance is impressive since we always have been bracketed against big name school on the road (except simpson which we beat).  We took Augustana to the wire in 1999, 2000 were up at half against #4 Central, the next year gave SJU a scare.  In 2003 we won a the first row game and then ran into the National champ and still did get blown out.  If you look at that game the first half we played the pretty tough and shut down alot of their bread and butter but SJU has too much fire power and had some other thing up there sleeves to open us up.  hey all the respect in the world for that.  that was a great team.  I just dont understand why we don't deserve respect.  Even last year we had LaCrosse dead but gave it back to them.  None of the teams we lost to are bad teams.  All have fantastic traditions and are always a threat to go deep into the playoffs.  Bottom line SJU GET OFF OUR BOARD if you wont even respect that.

Monmouth fans one word of advice.  Dont expect national respect untill a MWC team goes deep into the playoffs.  We will not get seated well nor will we be ranked all that high.  just learn to live with it.  SNC did and we are slowly getting more respect I believe.

Sorry about the novel fellas.  I am going to try and make it to the SJU and UWW game seeing that it is 40 mins away from were i live.  Good luck SJU, UWW is stacked
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: sncla42 on November 20, 2005, 02:11:43 pm
oops i posted twice sorry

This is why i dont post alot
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: johnnie_esq on November 20, 2005, 02:29:06 pm
Snydz- in regard the Monmouth player down and the SJU student section, and though I am not a SJU student, from my vantage point (end zone Palaestra side), I couldn't see the tackle nor the ensuing event-- the O-line was blocking my perspective, and it wasn't clear to me why it was taking so long for the play to wrap up.  If there were SJU students wisecracking about an injury, I would agree-- totally unacceptable and uncalled for-- but it may have just been somebody who didn't see what happened, as it was for me.  When the EMTs ran toward the Palaestra to get a backboard, I finally figured it out. Regardless, prayers in the hopes for a quick recovery.  Any new updates as to his condition?




Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DustySJU on November 20, 2005, 03:10:53 pm

Snydz;  In all my years of competion I don't think I gave it two thoughts whether or not someone shook my hand or not.  Given the fact you are still brooding about an incident 2 years ago tells me someting....

Why would you base your experience, your desire or your state of satisfaction on someone else.  It's personal development 101.

Done.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DustySJU on November 20, 2005, 03:13:03 pm

Monmouth;  It was a pleasure to meet you yesterday.  Your fans, your celebration of life and overall attitude was tops!  You brought it all, including the piper.  Congratulations on a successful season!

developing....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on November 20, 2005, 03:22:20 pm
Well concerning that D-MO (injured player) he was released and taken home.  He had an acute concussion.  He is doing well and is being woke up once every hour.  That is all I have heard.  My prayers are with him and his family.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 20, 2005, 03:43:52 pm

Snydz;  In all my years of competion I don't think I gave it two thoughts whether or not someone shook my hand or not.  Given the fact you are still brooding about an incident 2 years ago tells me someting....

Why would you base your experience, your desire or your state of satisfaction on someone else.  It's personal development 101.

Done.

PLease inform me on what happened 2 years ago...and the fact that you didnt care if someone shook your hand or not just says one thing to me  you=selfish
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: repete on November 20, 2005, 03:59:31 pm
Glad to hear Morrison was released and headed home -- as tough as it is to travel with something like that. Here's hoping he's back to normal soon. As rough as it is to see something like that (and I've seen all too many), it was rough to hear on the radio as well.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: AnotherJohnnie on November 20, 2005, 05:17:03 pm
Well concerning that D-MO (injured player) he was released and taken home. 

That's great news!  Good luck to the Fighting Scots next year.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ruggerrat on November 20, 2005, 07:22:44 pm
Ditto that AJ, good news for the Scots contingent... well played this year Monmouth, good luck with next year as well.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: War Pig on November 20, 2005, 08:57:32 pm
I hear you loud and clear Dusty SJU.  Who cares about shaking hands after the game.  If you want to congratulate some guys from the other team afte the game that is fine.  If you don't, it's no big deal.  If you want to shake each and every gusy hand, then knock yourself out.  Any pansy that is worried about shaking hands after the game shouldn't be in the game. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 21, 2005, 12:54:58 am
Just wanted to throw in a few final words on the Monmouth - St. John's game from this weekend.  Pretty much agree with everything that Snydz said in his post from Sunday 12:07 pm.  He still should've brought the Roush though, ha! :D

Congrats to the Scots on this season and finally knocking down the door to the playoffs.  All of us alums are proud of all of you guys!  Get well D-MO!

Collegeville was about what I expected; a great atmosphere for a college football game and plenty of good people hanging out at the tailgates.  It was nice to meet and talk with some of you fellow posters.  Overall (in my opinion), a very classy program and the same with the fans except for the one student who decided to yell at an MC player while he was lying on the ground going into convulsions (sp?).  Good luck the rest of the way in the playoffs--like OFS said, you guys keep winning and it takes some of the sting out of a loss like that. :)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: D-Rock2400 on November 21, 2005, 03:41:24 am
This is a young Monmouth College fighting scot freshman here. Just adding a few things. The Johnnies Proved that they were way better than we expected by dominating us. Their speed was unmatchable, watching film even worried me. I wish them luck with the rest of the playoffs. Oh, and another thing, Mitch Tanney is not overrated at all, you must see the man play more than one game to understand his talent. Its sad we had our season end so abruptly. And yes this whole season we were taught to play with class. Hope you get better D-MO.  I am open to any questions, just no pricks. - Young Scot
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on November 21, 2005, 09:28:16 am
Mr Rock,

You might want to consult your team captain, probably Mr. Tanney or Mr. Zigler before posting on here.  I am guessing your team has a policy about guys who are currently playing, coming on here and posting messages.  Perhaps Monmouth doesn't, or perhaps you didn't get the memo.  I am guessing, only guessing, Mr. Tanney doesn't need his freshman o-lineman stroking his ego on the net.  Just a thought, perhaps I'm wrong.

I know that I for one am grateful the freshman o-lineman from Monmouth is open for questions, regarding what, I am not sure.  If I think of anything, I'll get back to you.  I also know that if I was an upperclassman and some freshman was making statements like "watching film even worried me" I would be looking for soap and a sock.

Is this a press conference?

Well done Gomer!

Respectfully,

A Prick
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: xsnd47 on November 21, 2005, 09:32:55 am
My apologies everyone.  I know I'm supposed to be retired, but he just set it up so nicely.

Nice season Scots.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 21, 2005, 11:33:31 am
its basketball season....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Early on November 21, 2005, 11:34:33 am
D-Rock2400,

I don't know if you team says anything, but it is comon sense that you don't post before your career is over.  I bet, more hope, that your coach has some words for you.  If not he better get that in check.

Old fighting scot, you bet!!!  Basketball is in full swing!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ICBlue on November 21, 2005, 02:05:36 pm
Scots, sound like a great effort against a far better team but.....
I hope that everyone that roots for a MWC football team contacts the A.D. & President at their school and INSIST on a few changes.  Why should the MWC year after year put up with age old methods of running a D3 football program?  If you want more alums to support their school, give more contributions, then LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD! There is a direct correlation with money given to a school and a successful athletic program.  We all want to be proud of our schools on and off the field.  How much is all the free press in the local/regional sport pages when the name of your school is associated with a winning?!?
 1. Off campus recruiting... the coaches need to develop realationships (face to face) with the High School coaches by visits.  They also need to visit the games, scout the players and visit the players on their turf.
2. Spring Ball.... Can someone give me one logical reason that this does not happen?
3. More out of conference games with contenders no more Macalester's, Blackburn's, etc.
4. Saturday Night Games (get some lights!)
5. Double headers with local high school teams or Pop Warner teams to showcase others to your programs....

It get old to get beat up, year after year like a rented mule, make some changes, give all of us a little hope, take pride in your conference or just get rid of football.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 21, 2005, 02:36:11 pm
5. Double headers with local high school teams or Pop Warner teams to showcase others to your programs....

Nice points, but this one stuck out. My friend, this is college football, not semi-pro ball. Maybe you have some lavish idea in mind that I just don't get. Who knows.

Judging by the fan base of most of the schools in this conference, the stadiums would damn near clear out after the high school game. That would look real good.

Not one of your best efforts with point No. 5.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: D-Rock2400 on November 21, 2005, 04:03:20 pm
My appoliges, I shall retire.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on November 21, 2005, 04:22:51 pm
Don't retire...  Just hibernate for about three more years.  Good luck and work hard with your remaining seasons.  According to the roster, you look like the size of guy we need to slow down the Kevin Mcnamara's of the world.   
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: TC on November 21, 2005, 06:23:08 pm
Don't retire...  Just hibernate for about three more years.  Good luck and work hard with your remaining seasons.  According to the roster, you look like the size of guy we need to slow down the Kevin Mcnamara's of the world.   

I don't think size was necessarily the problem...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 21, 2005, 08:00:29 pm
its basketball season....

Going to any games Smoov???

Don't retire...  Just hibernate for about three more years.  Good luck and work hard with your remaining seasons.  According to the roster, you look like the size of guy we need to slow down the Kevin Mcnamara's of the world.   

I don't think size was necessarily the problem...

Good luck on getting the t-shirt TC
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 21, 2005, 10:06:49 pm
Well, you got the "prick" part right--that's for sure.  But the picture is of Walter Payton, so at least that's a good thing there! :P

I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but I agree with Greg for once.  ICBlue had some good points in that post, but number 5 really wouldn't help out much.

D-Rock2400 - Like scottie said...don't retire, just hibernate for 3 more years, help the rest of the current Fighting Scots keep rolling, and then post with the rest of us once you're old and done with it all too! :D

TC - Buddy, I should've set up a t-shirt exchange with you a few days before the MC-SJU game.  Not the playoff shirt, but just a Fighting Scots t-shirt in exchange for a Johnnies t-shirt.  Oh well, maybe another season.

Old Fighting Scot is right.  It's now basketball season, which means time to pull double duty checking the hoops board along with this one too.  But that shouldn't be too tough since this board will really slow down now that the Johnnies have left.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ICBlue on November 22, 2005, 09:36:33 am
I reference to my point #5, I may be searching but getting the local regional high school students on your campus couldn't hurt.  Since my point about the coaches can't visit their (H.S. players) games...then bring the freakin game to the coaches!
In addtion Pop Warner kids would think this was a big deal and many of these families would never step foot on most MWC football fields. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 22, 2005, 10:57:58 am
its basketball season....

Going to any games Smoov???


We shall see.......
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 22, 2005, 04:01:14 pm
Tanney finalist for D3 heisman...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 22, 2005, 04:03:26 pm
Tanney finalist for D3 heisman...
OFS-
It's the Gagliardi!
Still can't get yourself to say it?  ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 22, 2005, 04:05:40 pm
i can say it just cant spell it, been eatin a lot of crow lately and my mouth is kinda dry...... :P
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on November 22, 2005, 05:12:24 pm
The real race in the Gagliardi voting is between Tanney and Harbaugh.  That is what seems interesting to me.  It would be sweet revenge if Tanney comes out ahead of Harbaugh.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 22, 2005, 05:44:31 pm
i can say it just cant spell it, been eatin a lot of crow lately and my mouth is kinda dry...... :P
Just have a Hamm's and everything will be alright.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2005, 06:38:46 pm
The real race in the Gagliardi voting is between Tanney and Harbaugh.  That is what seems interesting to me.  It would be sweet revenge if Tanney comes out ahead of Harbaugh.

Unless one of them wins the award, we won't find out who came out ahead. They don't release the full voting.

I agree somewhat about a sophomore being nominated, coocoo, but then again, he was named a finalist, so it can't be considered a waste.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 22, 2005, 08:59:49 pm
Season wrap-up :


This really is a two team conference right now - MC and SNC

No more asking about where the national rankings are in week 5.

62-3, 45-7 against national competition says something, albeit SJU and WW are #2 & #3

I almost think they should do away with this conferences automatic bid.... now saying that, when a team goes 8-2, 9-1, 10-0, of course they would be considered as SNC has gone 9-1 or 10-0 the last 6 yrs

There is a lot of work to do for every program

Carroll and possibly Lawrence now are looking to move up

Lake Forest, IC, and Grinnell have put themselves at the bottom as it looked like these teams didn't even want to play anymore

and where does Beloit go now with a new coach

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on November 22, 2005, 09:01:04 pm

Congrats to Tanney

Great Year
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 23, 2005, 03:40:29 pm
i can say it just cant spell it, been eatin a lot of crow lately and my mouth is kinda dry...... :P
Just have a Hamm's and everything will be alright.

Screw the Hamms....give me a Bud Light!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 23, 2005, 03:44:31 pm
i can say it just cant spell it, been eatin a lot of crow lately and my mouth is kinda dry...... :P
Just have a Hamm's and everything will be alright.

Screw the Hamms....give me a Bud Light!!!

Snydz----

We thought you learned better than that on Saturday!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 23, 2005, 09:59:08 pm
i can say it just cant spell it, been eatin a lot of crow lately and my mouth is kinda dry...... :P
Just have a Hamm's and everything will be alright.

Screw the Hamms....give me a Bud Light!!!

Snydz----

We thought you learned better than that on Saturday!!! ;D

Snydz.....learn something.....haha!! :D

As for me, I'll take either--whichever one you can get your hands on faster!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: pfoot on November 27, 2005, 12:32:55 pm
After reading IC Blue's post, I could not agree more on some of his points. Why not have spring ball? Does anybody realize how far behind that puts this conference? I know the OAC does not off campus recruit, but circumstance are quite different between the OAC and MWC. Off campus recruiting would make a significant difference.

Finally one point ICBlue did not mention, it is scary how far behind the MWC is in the coaching ranks. Teams in the top DIII conferences have 5 or 6 fulltime coaches for football, many of which without any teaching or additional coaching responsibilities.  Mary Hardin Baylor I think has 7 coaches that do nothing but coach and recruit. 7 might be a bit extreme, but changes do have to be made!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: wnc52 on November 27, 2005, 01:04:51 pm
pfoot, welcome!  Long time no talk.  I agree with you on the coaching issue.  I think some MWC schools (well my beloved alma mater IC anyway) thought new facilities would be enough.  Kids want to know the coaches and if they can't visit you (or there aren't enough of them!) kids are going to go elsewhere to play.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 28, 2005, 12:32:20 pm
damn, rough one for the johnnies, i truly do feel worse about how the scotties ended the season.  looks like we have a long way to go boys....

MC Football in 06!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 28, 2005, 01:30:46 pm
damn, rough one for the johnnies, i truly do feel worse about how the scotties ended the season.  looks like we have a long way to go boys....

MC Football in 06!!!

I agree, but I am still proud of the Fighting Scots on a tremendous season!!!  Congrat again fellas
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LUtickles on November 28, 2005, 02:02:41 pm
Thanks a bunch Scots.  Losing 62-3 will really help the reputation of the conference.  I'm not saying SNC would've won but they would not have gotten embarassed like that.  Keep enjoying your 1 title because it's the only one you'll have for a long time. 62-3, are you serious??
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 28, 2005, 03:04:07 pm
Thanks a bunch Scots.  Losing 62-3 will really help the reputation of the conference.  I'm not saying SNC would've won but they would not have gotten embarassed like that.  Keep enjoying your 1 title because it's the only one you'll have for a long time. 62-3, are you serious??

are you serious?  didnt we beat SNC, please refresh my memory.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 28, 2005, 04:04:59 pm
Thanks a bunch Scots.  Losing 62-3 will really help the reputation of the conference.  I'm not saying SNC would've won but they would not have gotten embarassed like that.  Keep enjoying your 1 title because it's the only one you'll have for a long time. 62-3, are you serious??

are you serious?  didnt we beat SNC, please refresh my memory.

Don't get comfortable. First time since what, 1996? Please refresh my memory.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 28, 2005, 04:07:57 pm
Good point Greg, since as we all know, Monmouth and SNC both have lots of players still around from the 1997-2002 teams.

Next years MC seniors are 1-2 against SNC, next years juniors are 1-1, and next years Sophs are 1-0... thats means a whole lot more than MC's record against SNC when Clinton was in office!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 28, 2005, 04:22:40 pm
Excellent insight. I guess It never crossed my mind that it's 2005, going on 2006, and those games were already played.

Hmm, imagine that. The past is the past, and it doesn't matter.  In that regard, a good chuink of SNC's team is what, 0-0 vs. you, so what does it matter now? You bring it up every two days to make sure no one forgets the lick.

Go home to your coon-skin hat and wood-burning furnace. Let Our Lady of the Blind fight their own battle.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coolaw56 on November 28, 2005, 04:36:57 pm
 Attention LFC #57 (2002).  Just wanted to say thanks for stopping over to see Nick in East Lansing.  Meant a lot to all of us.  I know you won't respond, but I know you read this board, so we all just wanted to say how great it was to see you this weekend.  You snuck out early, so me and Nick never had a chance to thank you and say good-bye.  Sooooooooo, 'til we meet again, stay safe.  The door is ALWAYS open either in East Lansing or in South Bend.  Let us know; we'll have a T-Bone and crab legs ready for ya.  Love ya tons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ritz72 on November 28, 2005, 07:56:17 pm
Excellent insight. I guess It never crossed my mind that it's 2005, going on 2006, and those games were already played.

Hmm, imagine that. The past is the past, and it doesn't matter.  In that regard, a good chuink of SNC's team is what, 0-0 vs. you, so what does it matter now? You bring it up every two days to make sure no one forgets the lick.

Go home to your coon-skin hat and wood-burning furnace. Let Our Lady of the Blind fight their own battle.

Mines actually Beaver, and the new corn burning stove is excellent for these chilly November nights!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 28, 2005, 08:22:32 pm
I lost my good coon skin hat after my wood burning furnace tipped over and burned the whole cabin down.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on November 29, 2005, 12:22:47 am
Coon skin? Beaver? You guys haven't worn a hat 'til you've worn a mink hat!
And who needs a stove when it's only 15 degrees?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 29, 2005, 09:53:14 am
Thanks a bunch Scots.  Losing 62-3 will really help the reputation of the conference.  I'm not saying SNC would've won but they would not have gotten embarassed like that.  Keep enjoying your 1 title because it's the only one you'll have for a long time. 62-3, are you serious??

WOW...all I can say is, your welcome???  Last time I checked I don't think LU came close to either SNC or MC.  The only sport LU has a remote chance is hoops, and well we all know what happened the LU was ranked 10th in the nation a few years ago and came to good ole MC.....if not I think this may refresh your memory....

http://www.monm.edu/sportsinfo/releases/2004/basketball-men.1-31-04.htm
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 29, 2005, 11:11:44 am
I found two key words in the first sentence of that story.

"reserve guard".
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 29, 2005, 11:44:35 am
hey lay off the "reserve guards."  they are a vital component to every team ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 29, 2005, 12:30:36 pm
I found two key words in the first sentence of that story.

"reserve guard".

not my fault the coach didnt play me
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 29, 2005, 12:34:09 pm
hey lay off the "reserve guards."  they are a vital component to every team ;D

without reserve gaurds Smoov and myself wouldnt get the chance to go head to chacne.....BRING IT SMOOV!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on November 29, 2005, 12:34:46 pm
Isn't getting beat by clutch play from a reserve guard even more insulting/worse for a team than losing to a stellar performance from an all-american?


Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 29, 2005, 12:35:05 pm
The early line:

Gags 51, Skirts 12

Any takers?

Anybody remember this shot in the dark prior to the Skirts loss? Not bad, wouldn't you say?

Even Monmouth must admit they see greatness living to the North.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on November 29, 2005, 08:21:22 pm
I, along with everyone else from Scots Nation or anywhere else in the MWC, can see a whole bunch of something living to the north...but it sure as hell isn't greatness.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: LUtickles on November 29, 2005, 11:45:36 pm
I didn't play at LU. I just like their o-line coach who is named Tickles.  I lived with Greg back in 2001-2002 if that is relevant to anyone from Monmouth.  62-3? Disgusting.  Look away, YOUR hideous!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old Fighting Scot on November 30, 2005, 11:08:33 am
wait, i still dont get it.....

didnt MC beat EVERYONE IN THE MWC THIS YEAR!!!!!!?????!!!!!!! ???

MC CONFERENCE CHAMPS IN 05!!!!  REPEAT IN 06!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 30, 2005, 11:49:41 am
I didn't play at LU. I just like their o-line coach who is named Tickles.  I lived with Greg back in 2001-2002 if that is relevant to anyone from Monmouth.  62-3? Disgusting.  Look away, YOUR hideous!

Keep bringing up the past b/c obviously it makes you feel good......or Greg made you feel good ???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 30, 2005, 11:59:26 am
Reserve guard, it should make me feel good, since the teams I played on never lost to underachieving Skirts, even when you brought an "all-american" d-end with a bad attitude and strong fingers for pinching behinds, and tobias.

Yes, your boy, his name I forget, liked man ass apparently.

I'll say it again. I know very little about the Knights' recent successes and failures. Many of the folks I played with have now graduated.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on November 30, 2005, 12:36:49 pm
Reserve guard,

Your right reserve guard....but I dont think that SNC beat the 10th ranked team in the nation.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on November 30, 2005, 12:41:46 pm
If not for the influx of kids declaring for the NBA Draft, SNC would be unstoppable in basketball, and could perhaps knock off a contender.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old_Style on December 01, 2005, 03:31:48 pm
I thought SNC had some NBA calibur talent last year. However,  I think that they all quit due to the volleyball bug.
MEACHFEST 2006!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on December 02, 2005, 05:03:47 pm
-49 on karma. What a joke!

Apparently, if you're not SJU, or SJU lovers (ahem, Monmouth), you get blasted with smite.

Patrick, I'm not going to get the boot, am I?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Retired Old Rat on December 02, 2005, 06:15:24 pm
Greg,

I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the turds you leave here every couple of days.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on December 02, 2005, 06:24:36 pm
Speaking of turds, thanks for getting back to me. You're a real treat to interact with.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on December 03, 2005, 01:08:36 am
Here, Greg.  I'll get you back up to half a hundo. (click)  I won't be winning any elections anytime soon with my karma, either.  All will change on the hoops board, however.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 03, 2005, 01:10:50 am
Apparently, if you're not SJU, or SJU lovers (ahem, Monmouth), you get blasted with smite.

Yeah -- I took three days off of the board myself (death in the family) and I came back 11 lower than I left.

Some packs of fans can't deal with people with contrary opinions.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SJU92#57 on December 07, 2005, 03:38:56 pm
Pat, it's like ROR's ending remarks. Your entitled to you own set of opinions, but not you own set of facts. ;D Just kiddin'....everyone needs to lighten up a little, winter is just starting. I can't imagine what it will be like in Feb. ::)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on December 08, 2005, 08:45:03 pm
Wow, now this is some great conversation over the last week or so! :P  Damn I'm bored...thank god it's just a little bit longer until some Illini hoops comes on the TV to give me something to watch for awhile.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on December 09, 2005, 01:33:35 pm
Tanney got the shaft from d3.com. Any reasons for this from the Skirts faithful, or the voting cast?

Never saw him play, so can't make a judgement.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: CleverHandle on December 09, 2005, 03:03:27 pm
Tanney's a Gagliardi Finalist, and he's somehow not good enough to make it on an All-Region Team behind 2 junior quarterbacks?

I'll give you Brett Elliot, but the other two picks?

What a joke.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on December 09, 2005, 05:30:25 pm
LAKE FOREST, IL – Lake Forest College Athletic Director Jackie Slaats officially announced Thursday (December 8) that Brent Becker, who had served as Interim Head Coach for the 2005 football season, will continue to lead the program as its Head Coach.
“We’re very happy with the job Coach Becker did this past fall,” Slaats explains. “He is a talented and proven young coach with a bright future and we’re excited to have him here at Lake Forest College. We strongly believe in his ability to bring out the best in his players on the field, in the classroom, and in all areas of campus life.”

Lake Forest posted a 4-6 overall record in 2005.

Looks like mediocre gets it done at LFC. BTW, is Jackie a woman?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 09, 2005, 07:02:54 pm
Tanney's a Gagliardi Finalist, and he's somehow not good enough to make it on an All-Region Team behind 2 junior quarterbacks?

I'll give you Brett Elliot, but the other two picks?

What a joke.



It just goes to prove that many season end awards are flawed.  These two awards are probably based upon different criteria, I would imagine.
BTW, how many times did you see the two junior QB's in action? I believe the voters have more substantial & un-biased knowledge of the situation and selected who they believe had the better performances this season.  I have no problem with the picks.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 09, 2005, 09:25:09 pm
Tanney's a Gagliardi Finalist, and he's somehow not good enough to make it on an All-Region Team behind 2 junior quarterbacks?

I'll give you Brett Elliot, but the other two picks?

What a joke.

One of the other picks is playing this weekend, and that joke of a quarterback helms a team that beat St. John's 34-7.

As for Andy Collins, I think I would take him over Tanney seven days a week and twice on Saturdays. But that was just my ballot. My vote was not a deciding factor on this point, it was already clear.

Remember what the Gagliardi Trophy stands for (http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/?p=154) -- it is NOT the Division III Heisman.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 09, 2005, 09:52:43 pm
Amen to that!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on December 10, 2005, 01:15:59 am
Tanney's a Gagliardi Finalist, and he's somehow not good enough to make it on an All-Region Team behind 2 junior quarterbacks?

I'll give you Brett Elliot, but the other two picks?

What a joke.

One of the other picks is playing this weekend, and that joke of a quarterback helms a team that beat St. John's 34-7.

As for Andy Collins, I think I would take him over Tanney seven days a week and twice on Saturdays. But that was just my ballot. My vote was not a deciding factor on this point, it was already clear.

Remember what the Gagliardi Trophy stands for (http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/?p=154) -- it is NOT the Division III Heisman.

Yeah, Pat, everyone here is already quite aware of the fact that you would take anyone from a team outside of the MWC over anyone that is on a team in the MWC every single day of the week--or every single day of your life for that matter.  You've made that point about a thousand times over and over.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2005, 01:22:51 am
Apparently it was news to CleverHandle. But I only had one vote -- even if you threw mine out, the result would not have changed.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: repete on December 10, 2005, 12:31:37 pm
And if Pat's going to stiff MWC on the all-region team, there's no way anyone from the MWC will ever make the all-american team, (http://www.d3football.com/tow/02/allamericans.htm/) right?



Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2005, 12:37:41 pm
Yeah, exactly. Deserving players from the MWC have gotten recognized on a regular basis. But Tanney wasn't one of the best three quarterbacks in the West. I would have voted for Whitworth's Joel Clark ahead of him as well, if I had to go that deep on a ballot.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coco on December 10, 2005, 12:55:12 pm
I was thinking about Clark as well. He's one of the better QBs we've seen.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 11, 2005, 01:23:58 am
We strongly believe in his ability to bring out the best in his players on the field, in the classroom, and in all areas of campus life.”

Lake Forest posted a 4-6 overall record in 2005.

Looks like mediocre gets it done at LFC. BTW, is Jackie a woman?

I believe Jackie is a woman and she coaches women's basketball as well.  I don't think she goes out of her way to help the football program there.

Maybe they're stressing, "in the classroom, and in all areas of campus life.”

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on December 12, 2005, 12:50:43 pm
No Jackie doesn't help out the Football program. Though Coach Becker is the right man for the position he is not at fault for the dismal performane by this years team! Lack of leadership a running game and just overall talent is the cause of a 4-6 record. For his sake hopefully there is an in-flux of talent coming in this year as they lost thier entire offense in losing #2. These coaches are the same O and D coordinator as the prior year I can't see how to blame them alone. But I can't say things are looking up for the trees unless looking up is looking up at the scoreboard and the 148 points given up the last three weeks!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 12, 2005, 01:33:07 pm
Aztec Bowl for Casey Meehan, Congrats.   Nice honor, now with that being said should he be going as a product of the system or should some o-linemen because I think their 5th string running back could probably done the same things.  Maybe I'm out of line there but it's just a thought.  Their o-line is always the biggest and the best in this small-school d3 conference and I believe they usually have an o-lineman on an All-American team somewhere.  Sure he's had back to back 1000 yd seasons and average 20 tds per.  But is he one of the best in the nation ..... I don't know.  None the less, congrats on being selected.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 12, 2005, 01:46:52 pm
Since I mentioned o-line in the post before I will talk about it again.   Logan said LFC has a lack of a running game, which is true.  Once again I think it begins up front.  I thought they had a good running back, but I guess he moved on to bigger and better things.  I guess only Walter Payton and Barry Sanders can only run without an o-line. 

BTW Logan, where are you thinking of going to college, will it be:  William Penn, Grinnell, Hanover, UWP, or Wartburg.  I'm sure you have plenty of offers coming in already with the qb guru mentoring and grooming you.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on December 12, 2005, 02:25:06 pm
Aztec Bowl for Casey Meehan, Congrats. Nice honor, now with that being said should he be going as a product of the system or should some o-linemen because I think their 5th string running back could probably done the same things. Maybe I'm out of line there but it's just a thought. Their o-line is always the biggest and the best in this small-school d3 conference and I believe they usually have an o-lineman on an All-American team somewhere. Sure he's had back to back 1000 yd seasons and average 20 tds per. But is he one of the best in the nation ..... I don't know. None the less, congrats on being selected.

There's no doubt he's one of the best. The O-line struggled early this season, with injuries and new starters in place. So, whetever he got, a lot was on his own. That being said, I don't believe Casey hit full stride until mid-year.
He's a hell of a player - Fast, quick feet, strong when he needs to be. I can't remember him coughing the ball up too much either.

I'd love to say he's a product of the good number of offensive lineman in De Pere the last six or seven years - I blocked for him on many occasion - but he really does deserve any recognition he gets. He showed up to school weighing about 140 (probably not, but he was light), and worked his way up. That's the sign, in my opinion, of a program-first kid, and that's Casey.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Snydz822121 on December 12, 2005, 02:50:46 pm
Today is my birthday!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Old_Style on December 12, 2005, 03:48:42 pm
Congrats to Meehan...I, like Pawlik, blocked for Casey for a few years around the MWC circuit. Casey is a very tough guy and a tough runner. He's from Rockbridge, IL. Other than Casey, the town is known for their pork chop and steak sandwiches(THANKS, Mr. Meehan). Pawlik is right about Casey showing up in De Pere at around 140. He worked too hard to have anyone question or judge his talents, abilities, or accomplishments. STH keep your comments on the practice field when you have no idea what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on December 12, 2005, 03:53:32 pm
Today is my birthday!!!

Happy birthday, Snydz! Enjoy your birthday karma.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 12, 2005, 04:19:31 pm
He worked too hard to have anyone question or judge his talents, abilities, or accomplishments. STH keep your comments on the practice field when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Old Style give me a break.  I'm glad he's your friend and he's from Rockbridge, but I was only asking if some o-linemen should get some love too.  Maybe they should rename the town Meehan, Ill.  Now, I'm pretty sure he's a good player because you just don't put numbers up like that if your not.  I believe he was and will be an All-American.  Just saying all these numbers look the same except yards per game.  But then again all the guys on this list are All-Americans except for Aljay and Alec.

Casey Meehan     10  186 1165   57 1108   6.0  17   57 110.8

Casey Meehan     11  222 1360   74 1286   5.8  20   51 116.9

Aljay Wren            10  219 1355   50 1305   6.0  14  68 130.5

Alec Getschow        9  140  649   41  608   4.3  11   31   67.6
Aljay Wren              9  110  488   28  460   4.2   9    22   51.1

J.Augustynowicz    9  217 1304   29 1275   5.9  14   54 141.7

Matt O'Grady        10  208 1507   44 1463   7.0  18   75 146.3 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 12, 2005, 04:20:51 pm
BTW..... I always loved practice
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 12, 2005, 04:27:12 pm
And some more news Beloit hired Chris Brann who was the head coach from Carleton College as the new head coach.

Record as head coach
2001: (0-10, 0-9 MIAC)
2002: (0-10, 0-8 MIAC)
2003: (3-7, 1-7 MIAC)
2004: (2-8, 1-7 MIAC)
2005: (4-6, 2-6 MIAC)

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on December 12, 2005, 04:39:32 pm
Today is my birthday!!!

Same thing I said on the basketball board...

Snydz - Happy birthday buddy!

Now someone with the ability to do so needs to hit Snydz with a negative karma b-day present!  Ha! :D

Also, congrats to the players who did make it onto the all-west region teams last week.  And congrats to Meehan on his Aztec Bowl selection.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on December 13, 2005, 12:23:47 am
Great sign Bucs 9 wins in five seasons for Brann! I heard a coach Joe Schlagar was in the mix any word on where he may be headed?  Like you Feldhacker  I loved practice too!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2005, 02:12:12 am
Took a team that lost 30 in a row and made them competitive.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on December 13, 2005, 08:14:11 am
I know the program is in much better shape than when he got there but PC do you think he is a good fit and what is he going to run on O? Also PC how do they pick the rosters for the Aztec Bowl?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on December 13, 2005, 12:04:03 pm
Pat is right (geez Pat, it hurts to say that :D ), Brann did yeoman's work bringing Carleton's program around. If you read the press release, you'll realize that when he arrived, the football program at Carleton was on the brink of imploding, with 22 players on the roster. He'll be good for Beloit.

http://www.d3football.com/pressreleases.php?release=1020
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2005, 12:42:10 pm
Emmys,

Don't know if he'll maintain DeGeorge's Wing-T or not. I think Carleton was going single-back for a while but I had not seen Carleton play.

As for how they pick Aztec Bowl participants, not sure. I know they have to be nominated by the coach to the AFCA, and of course, any player in an all-star game has to be a senior. The AFCA All-American team's seniors are automatic bids, I believe, and I think there can only be one person per school.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on December 13, 2005, 12:43:29 pm
So will Brann get the roster number way up as he did at Carleton?  
 PASSING         GP   Effic Att-Cmp-Int   Pct  Yds  TD Lng Avg/G
---------------------------------------------------------------
Nate Skelton    10  100.56  165-77-11   46.7  967   9  68  96.7
Total.......... 10  100.56  165-77-11   46.7  967   9  68  96.7

PASSING              GP   Effic Att-Cmp-Int   Pct  Yds  TD Lng Avg/G
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Total..........      10   87.13 299-149-16   49.8 1512   5  50 151.2  Carleton threw almost twice as much though not with tuns of success and Beloit rushed well over 500 times while Carleton rushed about 360 something  what will the make up of this offense be?

And Joshua Armstead is the best special teamer of all time!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: bobturkviking on December 13, 2005, 12:51:24 pm
Can't see the Beloit hire being a positive.  In hiring someone from what looks like the same type of institution (with the same lack of committment for football), they've demonstrated that they have no significant interest in making the program more competitive.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: onearmedscot on December 13, 2005, 01:03:08 pm
Brann is a terrific recruiter growing the Knights from a roster of around 30 to a roster of around 80 this season.  I am surprised he left when it appeared he had Carleton on the cusp of really succeeding.  They took MIAC runner up and playoff second rounder Concordia to the final horn.

I don't know what the draw was to Beloit for Brann.  I don't believe he has family in the are and it seems to be a lateral move.  I think he may have had some frustrations with the admin at Carleton but am not positive.

I think he will do good things at Beloit.

oAs
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 13, 2005, 02:30:50 pm
Armstead, did you cut that guy out there??

what did he say, no or i don't think so

i forgot but it was classic

here's another good one....

Well when you have all-americans like Dirk and Kane you can stop anybody
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: onearmedscot on December 13, 2005, 05:32:57 pm
Chris Brann Story from Beloit Daily News (http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/2005/12/12/sports/sports02.txt)

Janesville Gazette story too. (http://www.gazetteextra.com/beloitcollfbcoach121305.asp)

oAs
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on December 14, 2005, 04:51:20 pm
He worked too hard to have anyone question or judge his talents, abilities, or accomplishments. STH keep your comments on the practice field when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Old Style give me a break.  I'm glad he's your friend and he's from Rockbridge, but I was only asking if some o-linemen should get some love too.  Maybe they should rename the town Meehan, Ill.  Now, I'm pretty sure he's a good player because you just don't put numbers up like that if your not.  I believe he was and will be an All-American.  Just saying all these numbers look the same except yards per game.  But then again all the guys on this list are All-Americans except for Aljay and Alec.

Casey Meehan     10  186 1165   57 1108   6.0  17   57 110.8

Casey Meehan     11  222 1360   74 1286   5.8  20   51 116.9

Aljay Wren            10  219 1355   50 1305   6.0  14  68 130.5

Alec Getschow        9  140  649   41  608   4.3  11   31   67.6
Aljay Wren              9  110  488   28  460   4.2   9    22   51.1

J.Augustynowicz    9  217 1304   29 1275   5.9  14   54 141.7

Matt O'Grady        10  208 1507   44 1463   7.0  18   75 146.3 

It's safe to say we can add another entry to that list a wee bit early - A.J. Phillips. This kid's a stud, and will eat up defenses next year, starting with OliveOil-Nazareth, or whoever they are.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: DuffMan on December 15, 2005, 01:19:48 pm
Can't see the Beloit hire being a positive.  In hiring someone from what looks like the same type of institution (with the same lack of committment for football), they've demonstrated that they have no significant interest in making the program more competitive.

Brann hasn't won a lot in the MIAC, but he has taken a team that hadn't won in 2 years and started a turnaround, as was mentioned.  He's won some games and increased the size of the team 4-fold.  I think he'll field some very competitive teams in the MWC.  Heck, he was starting to get competitive in the MIAC, and we see how well the MWC champ fared with the MIAC champ.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: meachscribe on December 19, 2005, 12:27:19 pm
Congrats to Meehan on his Mexican touchdown.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: warthog on December 20, 2005, 12:27:19 pm
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE.  :D

May the joy and spirit of the holiday season be with you throughout the new year.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ICBlue on December 20, 2005, 02:53:16 pm
Thanks for the Christmas message.

I have a few questions about, what seems to me a very large talent gap between the haves and the have nots. Monmouth, almost blew through the conference schedule with ease.  Then they lose to St. John's by 59 points, then St. John's gets  beat by UWW by 27 points, who in the finals gets beat by Mount Union. 

How does programs like Mt. Union, UWW apprear to be so much better than everyone else in the country, especially form the MWC?
Is it a more flexable Admissions program?
Is it scholarship money? (I know no athletic, but I know some schools seem to get fin. aid better than others)
Is it a bigger recruiting budget?
Is it constantly looking for the D1 players that are not getting the PT that they want?

Again, the talent level seems way bigger in D3 programs than D1, but I could be mistaken.

Any thoughts?

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on December 20, 2005, 04:34:48 pm
warthog - Good message for the holiday season! :)  Can't wait to make the trip to Wartburg (hopefully I'll be able to get there for the game that weekend) to see the Scots and Knights kick off the 2006 season.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: warthog on December 20, 2005, 09:57:41 pm
Maverick:

You are giving me information I didn't know?  Are the Knights and Scots playing in 2006?  ???

You are invited to the first tailgate of the year  :)

There will be construction going on around the football stadium so I will need to scout the area when I pass through Waverly before the season starts.  I'm sure our normal party central will be out of commission.  We'll give directions to a new spot before game day.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 20, 2005, 10:08:35 pm

I have a few questions about, what seems to me a very large talent gap between the haves and the have nots. Monmouth, almost blew through the conference schedule with ease.  Then they lose to St. John's by 59 points, then St. John's gets  beat by UWW by 27 points, who in the finals gets beat by Mount Union. 


U-W schools, St. Johns, and Mount Union are comparable to large division high schools teams and the MWC is that of the small division high school teams.  Nubs and MC are on another level within this conf.  Nubs has run this conf. for the last 8 years or so and MC has come on the last few.  The schools in the MWC don't recruit off campus and it obviously hurts them.  Having a hundred or so guys coming in each year to try out for the team doesn't hurt either where as Beloit and LU only have what 40 guys on the roster.   Maybe things will be changing at those two schools with their new coaching staffs.  Both schools finished strong anyways.

Another thing is why would a player go somewhere he isn't recruited hardly when other schools will come to his high school and meet with him and sell their program and school.  People want to go where they will win.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 20, 2005, 11:25:12 pm
"As far as recruiting is concerned at the division three level. It's almost not fair as some leagues aren't allowed to recruit off campus and some are,and the majority of private schools are required to bring in 150 kids a year to the school. In a way the coaches during the off season are glorified admissions counselors selling their school, with an emphasis on the football program."  -quote from d3fbfanatic on WIAC page-
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: d3fbfanatic on December 22, 2005, 01:32:42 am
I did nmot know this until saturday during the Stagg bowl. However the OAC is not allowed to recruit off campus just like the MWC is not allowed to recruit off campus. My question is why does it seem that the OAC is much more competitive in d3 in terms of the playoffs and everything. They always have two teams in the playoffs, who usually get to the third round of the playoffs. and they also end up playing each other a lot.
If someone could post their thoughts. I would appreciate it.
Also my quote from scout teamhero is true division three coaches are glorified admissions counselors. To even use the world recruiting at the d3 lvel is somewhat of a joke.At the division three level you go to school for a education first and football second.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: frank uible on December 22, 2005, 06:55:15 am
fanatic: In D3 recruiting is subtle - soft sell - compared to that in DIA, but it is the difference that makes all the difference. No DIII team is going to win its conference without working hard at recruiting and doing better at it than the typical team in the conference. A DIII coach may be a good organizer and manager, a good motivator, good at the technical aspects of the game and a good teacher, but he needs to have relatively high quality players in order to be highly successful in terms of wins and losses.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on December 22, 2005, 08:19:18 am
SNC Fans

Did I see it correctly is the DC position open at SNC?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on December 22, 2005, 10:37:51 am
To my Fighting Scots pals...Yes, even you Snydz...I found a new defensive lineman for you guys...
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20051222075609990013&ncid=NWS00010000000001

Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on December 22, 2005, 08:25:08 pm
warthog - To the best of my knowledge, the Scots and Knights will open the 2006 season (at Wartburg, night game I believe) and the 2007 season (at Monmouth) against each other.  Thanks for the tailgate invite, I'm hoping that I don't have anything else going on that weekend so I can be there for the game. :)

finsleft - Thanks for posting that link, kind of an interesting story.  Also good to hear that you still consider Snydz as one of your "pals" among those from Scots Nation! :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on December 23, 2005, 04:46:47 pm
I did nmot know this until saturday during the Stagg bowl. However the OAC is not allowed to recruit off campus just like the MWC is not allowed to recruit off campus. My question is why does it seem that the OAC is much more competitive in d3 in terms of the playoffs and everything. They always have two teams in the playoffs, who usually get to the third round of the playoffs. and they also end up playing each other a lot.
If someone could post their thoughts. I would appreciate it.
Also my quote from scout teamhero is true division three coaches are glorified admissions counselors. To even use the world recruiting at the d3 lvel is somewhat of a joke.At the division three level you go to school for a education first and football second.

The OAC is in OHIO, a state obsessed with football!!   ???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on December 23, 2005, 06:01:49 pm
And when you win 8 of the last 13 national championships people want to go to that school because they have a pretty good shot at winning.....
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Tezbaseball on December 30, 2005, 11:51:10 pm
Happy New Year MWC
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: d3fbfanatic on January 02, 2006, 09:27:46 pm
I just read on footballscoop.com that Jeff Voris from Carroll College has just been named the new head football coach at Butler University.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on January 04, 2006, 06:00:04 pm
That story is on the Midwest Conference homepage right now.  Without knowing too much about Carroll football, the hiring seems strange.  Maybe there is a pre-existing relationship about their now ex-coach and Butler.  It's a big jump, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 04, 2006, 07:45:49 pm
Could be.  Voris played and coached at DePauw.  He's got a lot of work ahead of him since the Bulldogs went 0-11 last season.

By the way, Carroll announced Voris' replacement, Henny Hiemenz.  The story is here (http://www.d3football.com/notables.php).
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 12, 2006, 02:52:12 pm
Congratulations to Mitch Tanney for making the SI January 16, 2005, "Faces in the Crowd" , found on page 26.

Any performances issues in the 2006 Monmouth College football season may be viewed as an extension of the SI Cover Jinx. ;D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on January 14, 2006, 01:56:25 pm
Congrats to the "best football player on the team" first team all american football gazette and linebacker of the region or something like that
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on January 20, 2006, 09:56:19 pm
So lots of chatter here in the MWC. Hear Drew Holman, LFC star, class of '04 has a book signing this weekend in Minooka! I think the name of the book is "It's Not Easy Being a Hero!"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on January 23, 2006, 12:19:35 am
Heard its more like, "Indebted to Mike E. at UWP"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on January 25, 2006, 04:59:25 pm
Can anyone update me on how things are going at Beloit under the new coach????
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Longtooth on January 26, 2006, 01:26:11 am
Is it true the L & C is playing a full NWC schedule?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on January 26, 2006, 10:24:59 am
Word on the street LFC's OC is out off to Iowa who's taking over the O? Where is this program headed? Is Becker gonna run the O? Who is the QB heard first and second string both out of school! It would be in the best interest of the program to hire ole #23!



"I'm not your F**king buddy"
Richard Duncan
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on January 26, 2006, 07:29:43 pm
"Ain't that right Reggie !!!"
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on January 30, 2006, 01:37:01 pm
New OC for the Tree Coach Fitz! Running the show. Or will Becker call the shots? Any truth to the rumor  that Nick Cullen #99 '04 is coming back to be a player coach?



Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on January 30, 2006, 10:39:47 pm
Any truth to the rumor that Nick Cullen #99 '04 is coming back to be a player coach?

Cullen #99 needs to come back as player/coach, he's just what that program is in need of.  Someone who can get the troops fired up.  Also an athletic dept. favorite.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on March 01, 2006, 02:02:01 pm
So this board is jumping! Summer Camp is only months away! Whats the dil? Over a month no posts? Weak


Wartburg to win National Title behind lil Eric
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: zakkwylde on March 23, 2006, 04:51:45 pm
anybody hear anything from De Pere about the two new assistant coaches listed on the Norbert football site?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: MWCSID2005 on March 31, 2006, 12:24:30 pm
The 2006 Midwest Conference composite football schedule has been posted.


Link: http://www.midwestconference.org/football/schedule.asp

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on March 31, 2006, 05:40:33 pm
Good to see that's been released, MWCSID.  I've been wondering when the composite schedule would finally make it's official appearance.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 31, 2006, 07:58:14 pm
Sept. 2     Millikin at Illinois College     1 p.m.
     Eureka at Knox    1 p.m.
     Kenyon at Grinnell    1:30 p.m.
     Washington (MO) at Lake Forest    1:30 p.m.
     Carthage at Carroll    6 p.m.
     Monmouth at Wartburg    7 p.m.
     Macalester at Beloit    TBA
     Lawrence at Minnesota-Morris    TBA
     Ripon at UW-Oshkosh    TBA

This is an improvement as a whole, for sure.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on April 01, 2006, 01:37:26 am
Yeah it is good to see teams that haven't been much for scheduling a quality team as their non-conference game improving it for this season.  No more Blackburn and only 1 team playing Macalester this year rather than 4-5 teams playing them like in the last couple seasons.  Now just gotta hope for some good results!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: zakkwylde on April 12, 2006, 10:19:17 pm
Well Maverick, you're the only devoted poster during this off-season lull.  How do the Scots match up for next fall?  Any interesting news?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 13, 2006, 09:13:07 am
What do the IC players or fans think about MacMurray and IC playing each other.  Even if it is the preseason scrimmage somethignhas to give here.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: finsleft on April 13, 2006, 12:50:09 pm
Well Maverick, you're the only devoted poster during this off-season lull.  How do the Scots match up for next fall?  Any interesting news?
Yeah Mav, we want a rematch in Collegeville this fall. Only this time we expect an appearance by the full pipe band and a Roush.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Kilted Rat on April 13, 2006, 12:54:46 pm
Well Maverick, you're the only devoted poster during this off-season lull.  How do the Scots match up for next fall?  Any interesting news?
Yeah Mav, we want a rematch in Collegeville this fall. Only this time we expect an appearance by the full pipe band and a Roush.

Wasn't there a safety recall on Roushes? (roush's? roushe's? roaches? what would be proper pluralization of Roush?)

Something to do with the rubber band snapping at speeds over 34 MPH and hitting the chipmunk in the a$$ resulting in total engine failure.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: wnc52 on April 13, 2006, 05:49:08 pm
I would always be in favor of an IC-Mac game, but if it hasn't happened by now, I don't see why it ever would.  There are always reasons listed for why we don't play, but I just don't think either school's administrations are interested.  As for who IC is playing, I'm glad they've taken up with Millikin.  In my opinion, there are too many quality programs in Illinois for IC to be scheduling Blackburn or Principia every year.  Just hope my coaching schedule allows me to get to IC that weekend.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on April 13, 2006, 06:45:54 pm
zak - Yeah it sucks that just about every MWC poster bails out on the football board from December through August.

As for the Scots, I don't have any interesting news on them--transfers, top players leaving the program, etc.  But assuming those who are still eligible to return do so, here's what I got: offensively...the running game should remain intact with the top 2 ball carriers (Daniels and Gibbs), 3 of the top 4 receivers coming back, and 4 out of 5 linemen returning, but have to find someone to replace Tanney at QB; defensively...Scots' D-line will have to replace a couple good D-tackles but get both D-ends back, lose 1-2 starting LB's, but 3 out of 4 starting DB's return in the secondary.  Special teams should still be strong with Palkovic kicking and punting, and Haffner handling most return duties.  Overall, Monmouth didn't graduate alot of players (if I counted right, 7 of 11 offensive starters return and 6-7 of 11 defensive starters return).  But the ones that did finish (QB Tanney, WR Hammer, DT Dihle, LB Zigler, DB Bast, and several others) were very good and important pieces of the team.  I'd guess the Scots will be strong again this fall with a good nucleus of the team coming back, just gotta fit in some new pieces of the puzzle...something Bell and his staff have done well recently.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on April 13, 2006, 06:55:08 pm
finsleft - Don't you have some Hamm's that needs drinking?? :D  I'd love to make it back up to Collegeville again this fall--was a great place to tailgate and watch a game.  As for the full pipe band...I don't have a clue.  And the Roush...well maybe Snydz will re-appear sometime and you can talk to him about that! ;)

Those talking about an IC vs. MacMurray game, probably not going to happen.  It would make for a great rivalry game since they're so close, but hopefully this scheduling trend by IC will continue into the future--playing someone from a strong conference (this year being Millikin out of the CCIW) rather than just settling for playing MacMurray as a rivalry game or playing someone like Blackburn for an easy W.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: wnc52 on April 14, 2006, 01:52:56 pm
Agreed Mav, on your point about IC-Mac.  And, just because two schools are in the same town doesn't necessarily mean the game makes sense from a competitive point of view.  Given the reputations of the two conferences, both would benefit by playing a team like Millikin to strengthen the overalls schedules they play.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 17, 2006, 09:04:00 am
Agreed Mav, on your point about IC-Mac. And, just because two schools are in the same town doesn't necessarily mean the game makes sense from a competitive point of view. Given the reputations of the two conferences, both would benefit by playing a team like Millikin to strengthen the overalls schedules they play.

If you have not seen Mac's schedule yet they have Augustana scheduled first game of the yera away!!! I guess IC situation is different only being able to schedule one non-conference game a year(is that correct)?  But maybe they could play the preseason scrimmage against each other and then either team does not have to travel.  Do you think that would work out?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: wnc52 on April 17, 2006, 01:41:22 pm
No, IBFC_Alum, I had not seen their schedule yet, but that is my point.  I feel it is better for Mac and IC to be playing teams like Auggie and Millikin instead of each other.  I'm not saying the "Battle of Jacksonville" would not be a good game, I just point to the larger picture of what IC and Mac can do for their conferences.  In terms of a scrimmage, I've been told D IIIs have two options--nine games plus one scrimmage OR ten games no scrimmage.  Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if that is the case, IC is better off simply playing a tenth game.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 17, 2006, 01:44:12 pm
That's a Midwest Conference restriction. The Division III rules allow 10 games plus a scrimmage.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 17, 2006, 01:50:38 pm
Thanks Pat.  Any word on D-III guys getting serious attention from Pro Scouts? Anyone have a legit chance of getting drafted?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 17, 2006, 02:38:29 pm
I doubt anyone other than Brett Elliott has a shot at getting drafted, and even his chances are probably 30-70 at best.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on April 17, 2006, 06:44:30 pm
That's a Midwest Conference restriction. The Division III rules allow 10 games plus a scrimmage.

Yes, unfortunately that is a MWC rule--the one that got St. Norbert in a bit of trouble several years ago for having a scrimmage and a non-conference game if I remember correct??  Would be nice if the MWC would change that rule (along with several others), but I suppose there isn't much many of us can do about that...  Also, good job by MacMurray in scheduling Augustana as one of their non-conference games this season--that will be good for them in the long run.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 20, 2006, 01:15:46 pm
One day I hope Mac will put Monmouth on the schedule.  Coach Steve Bell at Monmouth got his start at Mac and turned the offense around tremendously.  Mac still runs a lot of the plays that he installed during his time there. I came to Mac the year after Bell left but from what I am told he was a hell of a coach. So if Mac can't get IC maybe we could get Monmouth
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on April 20, 2006, 06:03:03 pm
Yes, Coach Bell did some coaching at MacMurray prior to coming to Monmouth and he really is a hell of a coach--played 4 years for him--and has a hell of a staff to go along with him.  And it would make for an interesting storyline of a coach going back to play his old team.  But again similar to IC vs. MacMurray not happening, Monmouth vs. MacMurray probably isn't happening anytime soon either.  Like IC has finally started doing with Millikin from the CCIW, Bell and staff seem to be more interested in scheduling a solid team from somewhere like the IIAC (ie, Loras in '02 and '03, Wartburg in '06 and '07) as the Scots' single non-conference game.  In other words, they want to play someone who can help make them better down the road; and even if they're to lose that game, they want it to be a quality opponent that will help them somehow in the future--not just schedule someone they think would be an easy win (not trying to bash Mac at all there, that's just the way I'm seeing it).  Also, FYI, these 2 schools met every year from 1985-1997 when the MWC was split into North and South divisions, and Monmouth was able to schedule more than just one non-conference game each season.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on April 20, 2006, 06:18:02 pm
Hey Mav or anyone else. Do you know the deal with the Lake Michigan conference realignment? Will that league be playing next year and if so, will they have an AQ in football?

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on April 20, 2006, 09:56:04 pm
Hey Mav or anyone else. Do you know the deal with the Lake Michigan conference realignment? Will that league be playing next year and if so, will they have an AQ in football?



fightintitan - I really don't have a clue as to what's going on with the LMC.  Hopefully Pat or someone else knows and can help you out.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 20, 2006, 10:40:34 pm
I don't believe the football alignments are changing next year. There will eventually be a Northern Athletics Conference football conference, but not a LMC.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on April 26, 2006, 11:24:31 am
Chad back in the MWC! Big C after his long stint in Minn. What does this mean for the fire will they build on last year? More importantly what will his presence do for the Knox tennis program? But really what will this do to have impact on the Football program? I heard he already has some planned hires. He said wants the best D-back he ever coached to shape his secondary. The have lots a bars in town schoolboy? And hear Marty Folan is to take the WR's. Best of Luck to the Chad we will see if he can keep the fire burning in Galesburg. Will he coach or just look over the program very closely? I know one thing he will have much more success there than if he were back at his last MWC stomping ground! Those Trees lets hope they can stay out of jail an win more than 3 games in this POWER conference!

Krabel for Life!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coolaw56 on April 27, 2006, 07:39:27 pm
The trees rocked the four years Chad was there (2001 - 2004), compiling a win/loss record of 28 - 13 with the help of a great assistant coaching staff.  Brent Holsclaw was particularly impressive.  Fortunately, we were there all four seasons.  As a supporter last year, it was a disappointing year, but winning only one game all season would be a hell of a lot worse.  Hopefully, the Foresters are regrouping and working hard in the off season.  I've talked to a few, and they seem enthusiastic and are looking forward to this season.  It's unfortunate the game against Knox is in Galesburg this year.  May have to make that road trip anyway.  In the meantime, 128 days to the home opener.  A Forester FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!       
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on April 27, 2006, 10:53:01 pm
Coolaw,

Is Lake Forest vs. Knox a pretty big rivalry in football?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coolaw56 on April 28, 2006, 05:08:05 am
You might say that.  In 2002, the year we won the Conference Championship, they were the team that ruined our perfect season before the playoffs and caused us to go 9 - 1 with a 35 - 30 score over us.  Also, Knox is the alma mater of our current head coach.  It is also the alma mater of our former head coach and Knox's newly named Director of Athletics.  I think this all plays out for a pretty good rivalry and a pretty good game this season I hope.  A Forester FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coolaw56 on April 28, 2006, 05:09:50 am
Oh yeah, only 127 days 'til opening day!!!!!!!!!!!!  Are you ready for some FOOTBALL???????????????  Go Foresters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on April 28, 2006, 02:29:09 pm
K first off coolaw you really didn't touch on any questions I had. I hope your arm is ok from patting yourself and your team on the back. An my hope is your name doesn't insinuate you are studying law! I may not know much, but it's always good to have your facts straight. Chad was 31-20-0 overall and 28-16 in conf. He coached for 5 years! LFC is now a lower level team in a weak conf. They won 3! 3! games in the brace yourself the MWC. I am glad you had a nice little run in your day at the Forest but that has come to a close! If I remember correctly the Trees had much fall into their laps and now look it ain't so easy when you have to actually recruit! Just check out last year’s class. And I gotta call from some LFC players too but it was to bail them out of jail cause they robbed a player on their own team! Real enthusiastic! Since the enthusiasm is flowing in the Forest who is there QB? RB? WR? I guess #10 will just do everything for this perennial power as you have put it coolaw! I hope they take it easy on Wash. U! An one more tid bit the Flames lead the series 29-17 over the Trees best rivalry in college football a couple of 3 win teams battling in the pooph bowl!

LETZ lives on!

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on April 28, 2006, 02:43:41 pm
K first off coolaw you really didn't touch on any questions I had. I hope your arm is ok from patting yourself and your team on the back. An my hope is your name doesn't insinuate you are studying law! I may not know much, but it's always good to have your facts straight. Chad was 31-20-0 overall and 28-16 in conf. He coached for 5 years! LFC is now a lower level team in a weak conf. They won 3! 3! games in the brace yourself the MWC. I am glad you had a nice little run in your day at the Forest but that has come to a close! If I remember correctly the Trees had much fall into their laps and now look it ain't so easy when you have to actually recruit! Just check out last year’s class. And I gotta call from some LFC players too but it was to bail them out of jail cause they robbed a player on their own team! Real enthusiastic! Since the enthusiasm is flowing in the Forest who is there QB? RB? WR? I guess #10 will just do everything for this perennial power as you have put it coolaw! I hope they take it easy on Wash. U! An one more tid bit the Flames lead the series 29-17 over the Trees best rivalry in college football a couple of 3 win teams battling in the poop bowl!

LETZ lives on!


Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coolaw56 on April 28, 2006, 04:17:50 pm
Emmys First Class,

Didn't mean to get ya so worked up.  Try to have a good weekend anyway.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on May 01, 2006, 08:29:28 pm
I'm glad the Bears sured up there poor defense in this years draft.  Great job
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on May 05, 2006, 01:21:41 pm
I'm blown away by all the faithful Knox posters. You get a new AD who could be a huge asset to your program an nothing? This board is a week as this conference!




Wojdyla Rules!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on May 16, 2006, 03:07:41 pm
Some good news (and, potentially, very good news down the road) about our reigning POY.  http://www.monm.edu/news/releases2006/tanney.05-15-06.htm
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on May 16, 2006, 08:36:39 pm
D*mmit scottie!  You beat me to posting the story about Tanney. :P  But yes, it is good news and hopefully he continues to do well where ever his football road takes him.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: scottie on May 16, 2006, 10:00:27 pm
Sorry Mav!   ;)  I had to do it... 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coco on May 17, 2006, 03:30:58 am
Congrats to Tanney! It's great to see D3 kids go on to play at another level.

He was SUMMA cum laude? Outstanding!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on May 30, 2006, 12:36:14 pm
The season is quickly approaching. Predictions?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on May 30, 2006, 08:58:33 pm
I think Monmouth falls to St. Norbert this season (before winning the next three or four MWC titles), but I am not sure it necessarily wins them the conference.

I expect SNC and MC to be at the top with no more than three conference losses combined and Ripon, Lawrence, Carroll, Lake Forest and IC all beating up on one another with the occasional upset. I think MC or SNC could be upset victims from any of the first four teams and could cost either one the title.

a very early order of finish
SNC
MC
LU
RC
CC
LFC
IC
BC
KC
GC
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Maverick on May 31, 2006, 05:50:05 pm
Beat ya this time scottie! ;)  Recent story on Monmouth's incoming recruiting class, a couple different links:

http://www.monm.edu/sportsinfo/releases/2006/football.recruits.05-30-06.htm

http://www.reviewatlas.com/articles/2006/05/31/sports/local/sports1.txt
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: zakkwylde on June 01, 2006, 10:16:27 pm
Interesting pick, Lawrence at third.  I definately think they will be much improved from last year.  Anyone in Appleton know if Aljay Wren will be a fighting Viking this year?  Keeping that in mind, is Seth Schussler coming back to lead the Green Knights to the promise land.  I've heard his name mentioned lately in a lot of Chuck Norris jokes.  You know, like: Who is Chuck Norris afraid of?  Seth Schussler.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on June 02, 2006, 09:17:17 am
Who is Seth Schussler?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: zakkwylde on June 02, 2006, 11:13:31 pm
He was a TE from a few years ago who was an animal in the weight room and oftentimes in public.  Took a lot of heat for giving SJU fans the middle finger.  Went into the military and I have heard rumblings about his return.  Kind of like the Tupac/Machiavelli conspiracy, minus the fake death.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on June 07, 2006, 12:23:26 pm
As far as predictions go.
Monmouth may have lost Tanny and Zigler and few other great athletes.  Monmouth will bo on top again.  Bell has things running the right way.  Monmouth finally beat Norberts this past year and that is what they needed to gain their confidence.  Now Monmouth knows thay can beat them.  Go Scots.  Looking forward to that first game against Wartburg.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on June 07, 2006, 09:04:07 pm
that is pretty crappy reasoning Papa

just because a coach has things running the right way doesnt mean anything when you lose the best qb and lb in school history.

give us some reasons that Monmouth tops Norbs again...
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on June 09, 2006, 12:23:58 pm
If you lose your top offensive and defensive player that does not mean that your team slumps.  Monmouth reloads.  Zigler was a hell of a player but it is the other players around you that make you a great player.  The rest of the D i am sure will be in peak form.  As for Tanny he was a great QB, but in Coach Bell's tenure thus far he has had two quarterbacks, Rob Purlee and tanny and both broke school records, I am sure that the quarterbacks he has will step in and produce just fine.  They dont need an all american QB, they have a solid team coming back.

As for your sorry A**.  If the program is good than so are the players.  You must know nothing about athletics in general.  The top team are always at the top, they keep getting better and better.  Norberts was there for a while, but with dumbs**ts like you talking about them, they apparently are on the decline.  Have a great summer, wetting your self over how good Monmouth is going to be.  Rooster
Congrads on the wedding next week.  Sorry I cant be there in FL, but i give you my best.   
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on June 09, 2006, 06:55:56 pm
You are correct, I know very little about athletics, but I have learned a great deal from you in the past few days….thank you

But just so I have this straight, by your calculations, USC and Texas will meet again in the DI national championship...correct?...because getting the choo choo train rolling in the right direction overcomes all else, for instance, having a combined 17 players drafted into the NFL..

Oh yes and if your correlation between a dumb**** talking about a team and that team’s impending demise holds true, things don’t look good for Monmouth….considering a few posts up I said they that the Scots will win two or three titles in a row after next season.

Unlike yourself, I will provide reasoning for my statement, rather than sticking the keyboard in my mouth and going with whatever appears on the screen…Bell has shown he is a superior coach in the league, but has never had superior talent…I still think SNC was the better team talent-wise last year, but were outcoached and outplayed.

I think Bell has had a little bit of luck landing two All-American caliber QBs in a row and I think this might be the honeymoon season…that being said, I think Bell has the ability to turn a less talented QB into a top of the line player, so a honeymoon season will likely mean hanging 40 or 50 on most MWC teams, but falling to SNC in the new QBs debut against top-level talent.   

Purlees and Tanney’s first games against SNC
Purlee    11-32   93 yards, 3 int
Tanney 8-17 145 yards  2tds  1int

Those numbers tell me that there is a learning curve involved because the talent level is higher at SNC than other MWC schools. Maybe Wartburg will prepare the new QB for the SNC game, but I don’t think we will see a pillar to post qb for MC next year. I do think who ever comes on at the end of the season will lead MC past SNC and to the playoffs for the next several years.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on June 13, 2006, 11:14:37 pm
oh really Papa?   good response


Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Emmys First Class on June 14, 2006, 11:32:46 pm
fightintitan, nicely done!
What's the word Papa? haha
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: JUSTINTYEM on June 15, 2006, 12:17:19 am
I also heard about Seth Schussler coming back to play football in the Fox Valley area.Not for Norby's.But for LU.Yes Aljay will be the tailback for the vikings this fall,with Ebert moving out to a WR spot.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on June 15, 2006, 12:59:57 pm
I am sorry about the response being so late.  I do have other things on my agenda.
Good post fightin titan
Good point on Purlee and Tanney starting off bad against St. Norberts.  They did struggle against better competition.  However, Tanny may have started out as All-American caliber but Purlee was not a highly sout after recruit coming out of Mt. Carroll.  He had to work his way to the player he was, and yes Coach Bell should get all the credit for that.  Hopefully, the next QB will not struggle against better comp. (We will find out against Wartburg) 

I did not see the Norberts game this past season, so I can't comment on how good Norberts was, but Monmouth has a pretty dang good team when I watched them.

As far as the USC-Texas statement, I am not stating that Monmouth will win the national championship, but a team doesn't go from 1st to last in a years time.  USC and Texas will be in the top 10, so yes when you get the train rolling you tend to be on top, especially if you have a handful of the same players and a great coach. 

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on June 17, 2006, 11:14:15 pm
Papa…I may have twisted some of your previous comments out of their intended context because I didn’t appreciate your tone…I agree with you about USC and Texas reaping the rewards of their recent success and putting together programs that will be near the Top 10, so I understand what you mean by getting things rolling…in MWC terms, we can agree that talent-wise there is MC and SNC and everybody else at this point in time.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: BigShow on June 17, 2006, 11:42:32 pm
any word on new editions to the Lawrence football program for the upcoming season?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: papa90 on June 19, 2006, 01:49:49 pm
Agree with that statement!!

Congrads again Rooster on the wedding.  Hope it was fun becoming a man.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on June 21, 2006, 09:03:08 am
Looking at the non-conference games in the MWC this year the Monmouth vs. Wartburg game is the most important game any team in the conference will play this year.  It is even more important than the SNC vs. Monmouth game.  It has the power to enable an at large bid with a win.  A Ripon over Oshkosh win would also bolster the MWC's chances.  However, it would be a lot more interesting to watch Grinnell vs. Kenyon if it was in a swimming pool.  ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: bayer/berlex on June 22, 2006, 01:23:03 pm
Though I agree that an at-large bid would be nice, and that wins against strong non-conference opponents would aid that cause, I take exception to the comment regarding the Grinnell/Kenyon matchup. If it was meant as a compliment to the swimming programs at both institutions, I stand corrected. If it was meant as a "slap in the face" to the athletes that will be "banging heads" on the gridiron on September 2nd in Grinnell, shame on the poster! Kenyon's head coach is a Grinnell grad and he has improved the Kenyon program dramatically in the last couple of years. Kenyon will also be playing Claremount-McKenna in California before beginning their conference schedule. Grinnell had a very tough year in 2005, only four seniors and a slew of injuries may have played a role. However, the previous year the Pioneers posted a respectable 6 and 4 record (which included wins over Ripon & Carroll). I've been a Midwest Conference fan for several years and really admire the play of the hundreds of scholar athletes that the various teams put forth each season. My hope is that all posters do the same.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on June 22, 2006, 02:59:31 pm
Though I agree that an at-large bid would be nice, and that wins against strong non-conference opponents would aid that cause, I take exception to the comment regarding the Grinnell/Kenyon matchup. If it was meant as a compliment to the swimming programs at both institutions, I stand corrected.

I am a former swimmer from Coe college.  We used to get shellacked about four times a year by the pioneers.  I still have my Buddha invitational T-shirts.  If swimming were like football and broken down into regions Grinnell would be the St. John's of the west and Kenyon is the Mount Union of swimming.  Much respect to Coach Obermiller, Luther Davis, Joe Zimsen, David Ressner, and the rest of the early nineties pioneer swim teams. 8)

So you may stand bayer/berlex.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: bayer/berlex on June 22, 2006, 05:17:55 pm
CooCooforCoe. . .
     My apologies for assuming the worst. You lived the scholar-athlete life at Coe. I'm hoping that all of Grinnell's teams will someday achieve the type of success of that the swim teams have provided. Best of luck to Coe next season!

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on June 23, 2006, 01:15:18 pm

  If swimming were like football and broken down into regions Grinnell would be the St. John's of the west and Kenyon is the Mount Union of swimming.  Much respect to Coach Obermiller, Luther Davis, Joe Zimsen, David Ressner, and the rest of the early nineties pioneer swim teams. 8)

So you may stand bayer/berlex.


No question that Grinnell has a great swimming program but I think St Olaf may argue with you awarding them the St Johns comparison in football.  Olaf has been a consitently better swimming program than Grinnell.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on July 03, 2006, 06:49:33 pm
1. Lawrence             9-1 
2. St. Norbert           9-1
3. Monmouth            7-3
4. Carroll                  6-4
5. Ripon                   5-5
6. Beloit                   4-6
7. Illinois College        4-6
8. Lake Forest           3-7
9. Knox                    1-9
10. Grinnell               0-10

Tiebreak goes to Lawrence who could start out 2-1 or 0-3.  I say 2-1, but if they get off to the bad start then the worst they finish is 3rd in the league.  Nubs as always then everyone else just playin to play
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on July 07, 2006, 01:55:46 pm
1. Lawrence 9-1
2. St. Norbert 9-1
3. Monmouth 7-3
4. Carroll 6-4
5. Ripon 5-5
6. Beloit 4-6
7. Illinois College 4-6
8. Lake Forest 3-7
9. Knox 1-9
10. Grinnell 0-10

Tiebreak goes to Lawrence who could start out 2-1 or 0-3. I say 2-1, but if they get off to the bad start then the worst they finish is 3rd in the league. Nubs as always then everyone else just playin to play

You have got to be kidding me with putting Lawrence at even having a prayer at going 9-1.  The coach that they have now will def. help them win more games, but there is no way they will go 9-1.  I still see them as being under .500 this year.  They need a couple more years to bring in some outstanding players, but they will still have the problem they have always had.. getting quality players that have high accademic numbers.  I know that Lawrence has dropped some of their high requirements and have been able to bring in some players, but to go from a 4-5 record to a 9-1 record thats a big jump.  Plus the only games they won last year where at home.  So unless they are playing 9 home games this team needs another year or two to grow.  But don't get me wrong, i could see LU moving right up the rankings in years to come.   
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 07, 2006, 03:46:17 pm
I agree...I wasnt sure if Scoutteamhero was being sarcastic because some of the other posters had Lawrence moving up this year, but LU lost to Monmouth and St. Norbert by over 30 points apiece last year....a win over Carroll and blowout over Lake Forest showed they improved drastically throughout the year...but losses to Knox and Beloit show they are not ready to compete for a title yet. I think LU has a chance at 7-3, but could be as low 5-5 if they dont take care of business
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coolaw56 on July 07, 2006, 04:49:30 pm
Ya never know:

LFC 2001 (4 - 6)

LFC 2002 (9 - 2)

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 07, 2006, 07:38:20 pm
Good point...any former Foresters out there who can pinpoint the biggest reasons for the turnaround

I just looked at LU's schedule...how good will Minnesota-Morris be and is getting MC and SNC right away a good or bad thing.

I think Monmouth will be beatable next year espeically in week two...MC's QB situation could still be in question and if their offense is struggling, I think a team like LU or Ripon can beat them by controlling the clock with the run game.

I guess a win over MC would give the Vikes cofidence against SNC and Howard used to coach there so he might have the inside track, but the question of matching up talentwise still remains.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 07, 2006, 07:43:34 pm
Lawrence should beat Minnesota-Morris.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 11, 2006, 10:09:34 pm
anybody out there want to talk football???
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on July 12, 2006, 11:37:35 am
Hey I am game, what do you want to talk about?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: bayer/berlex on July 12, 2006, 03:30:37 pm
I'm ready to talk some MWC football. My guess is that the MWC will see several teams around the 5-5 mark this year. Some great players have graduated from last year's powerhouses (Monmouth and St. Norbert). Some of last year's weaker teams will surprise people. Grinnell had numerous underclassmen gain lots of valuable gameday experience during last year's struggle. A healthy Sean Pfalzer returns for his senior season at QB. A large group of newcomers include several prep school standouts. Lawrence finished strong, however, I'm not convinced they will be an elite team so quickly. Anxious to see how Beloit responds to the coaching change. Did Lake Forest lose its starting QB (or was he inadvertently left off the 2006 roster)? Let's get the chatter started. Opening kickoff is a mere six weeks away!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on July 12, 2006, 03:45:19 pm
Can Carroll beat Carthage?

Can Ripon beat UW Oshkosh?

Can I.C. beat Millikin?

Can Lake Forest beat Washington U. ?

Can Monmouth beat Wartburg?

These five games will have a lot to say about the MWC's AQ seeding in the west region playoffs.   If all these games result in victories there may be chatter about an at large bid. The rest of the non-conference schedule should be all W's :-[
Title: Midwest non-conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on July 12, 2006, 04:06:11 pm
Can Grinnell beat Kenyon?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on July 12, 2006, 08:35:43 pm
Carthage Wins
Oshkosh Wins
I.C. Should Win
Wash. U Wins
Toss Up but favoring Wartburg
Lawrence Wins
Norbs Win
Beloit Wins
Toss Up but favoring Grinell
Toss Up but favoring Knox


Maybe too soon for 9-1 Larry's but like I said it's all about their start 9-1 or 7-3
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 12, 2006, 09:26:25 pm
scoutteamhero..I think you need to lay of the MWC and LU koolaid a bit...
i pasted your picks and added my thoughts

Carthage Wins (CC played them to the wire last year and probably falls in a close one )
Oshkosh Wins (dont disagree at all)
I.C. Should Win (I think Millikin enters as the favorite here)
Wash. U Wins (by how much? i dont know anything about UAA football)
Toss Up but favoring Wartburg (Wartburg should be favored)
Lawrence Wins (dont disagree, but it will be tighter than expected)
Norbs Win (not sure about that...doesnt olivet have scholarships, not to mention being very good the last few years)
Beloit Wins (we shall see)
Toss Up but favoring Grinell (Kenyon won 6 games in a much better conference and should win going away)
Toss Up but favoring Knox (agreed I think)

my vote for the MWC nonconference record is 4-6
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 12, 2006, 09:38:29 pm
coocooforcoekohawk,

you had raised the point a few pages back that the biggest game of the year in the MWC is the Monmouth vs. Wartburg game...I have to respectfully disagree, although I certainly understand where you are coming from...

I still think Monmouth vs. St. Norbert will be the biggest again for a few reasons...

* Monmouth starts a new QB this year, possibly a freshman
** Wartburg will likely be bigger on the lines and more likely to wear out an opponent, especially in a season-opener
*** MWC teams are at an automatic disadvantage, as I believe that their conference restrictions give them either less practices or less scrimmages (please fill me on the exact rules or correct me if I am wrong)

I think the first and third points give Monmouth a shot of being a better team late in the season than in the opener and thus, if they can get by SNC, give them a chance at a win if they were to face Wartburg again in the playoffs...although a 10-0 record got them St. Johns last year, so a 9-1 mark may offer the same MIAC or WIAC fate...an MWC school will never upset that caliber of team, but St. Norbert certainly had top 15 and maybe top 10 teams in the past that were victims of being in a great regions
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 12, 2006, 09:39:28 pm
bayer/berlex and hawksighting, who r your teams?
Title: MWC fan (very partial to Grinnell)
Post by: bayer/berlex on July 13, 2006, 12:27:30 pm
fightintitan2006

bayer/berlex is a grinnell fan (I haven't missed many games over the last several years).

The Kenyon at Grinnell opener should be a dandy. Expect a wide open game as Kenyon returns two 1000 yard rushers, including a QB who runs from the shotgun formation. The Pioneers will be sky high with their largest squad in recent years (including 18 starters from last year). The Kenyon coach is a Grinnell alum who played on the "perfect season" team of the late 90's. I'm betting that Pfalzer's arm will be fine and the matured defense will be much improved. Look for Grinnell to win by a field goal, 27-24.

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on July 13, 2006, 07:58:57 pm
bayer/berlex and hawksighting, who r your teams?

I am a Ripon Grad.  On the squad from 2000-2004.  I am now working for a College in the Iowa Conference, ill give you guys a guess, has to do with my name.  It is def. a totally different paced game in the Iowa conference.  As much as i hate to agree, Wartburg should do a good job on Monmouth. The one big thing that the Iowa conference has that the MWC doesn't is off campus recruiting.  That helps a lot with getting some different types of student/athletes. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 14, 2006, 07:46:02 pm
if i have you pegged right, than something tells me that you would be a good source for inside information not only on Ripon football, but also Ripon swimming ;)
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 15, 2006, 03:37:28 pm
JUSTINTYME hinted onthe previous page that a pair of former SNC players may be at Lawrence this year...anyone know if there is any truth to either??? I have heard Wren is there from a few different people, but this was the first I heard about Schussler

If Wren is really at LU, that could have a huge impact on that team and the league...I think is been a few years since he has played ball, but if he is in shape, he could be a man among boys...anyone know if this would be his last year or would he have another year of eligibility?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Hawk Sighting on July 17, 2006, 09:17:53 am
if i have you pegged right, than something tells me that you would be a good source for inside information not only on Ripon football, but also Ripon swimming ;)

Could be :o  And would I know you at all?  Only a month till check in fella's!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 17, 2006, 08:50:17 pm
I doubt you know me…I’m just a longtime Fox Valley area guy  who makes the rounds around the area to watch football…I watched your dad at LU and while he doesn’t know me well, he must recognize me from those days, because we run into each other occasionally and usually make small talk (that’s how I figured you were who you were) 

Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on July 18, 2006, 01:10:22 pm
How will Beloit be this year under their new HC??

How many recruits are coming to campus??

Anyone with insight?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: RestoreTheRoar on July 22, 2006, 12:53:53 am
Beloit should be tough this year. They only lost three starters and six total players from last year's team. In the spring I heard they were expecting somewhere around 20-25 incoming freshman.  Heard they had a good off-season strength and conditioning program under the new coaching staff. Will be exciting to see what they can do this year. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on July 24, 2006, 11:10:17 am
Hey Pat

Why no love for Lee Ranken FB--Beloit--led the conference in rushing--as a Jr.

All Region Team last Year--I have seen him--outstanding
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2006, 12:32:10 pm
Running back is stacked like you wouldn't believe. There's actually a guy who was on the All-American team last fall who isn't on the preseason team this year because the freshman for Mount Union passed him with his playoff performance.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on July 24, 2006, 03:40:34 pm
Fair enough,

but, you have to be impressed with the numbers he put up on a squad that was so numbers depleted...if he repeats that performance he should be on the squad.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: JUSTINTYEM on July 25, 2006, 09:20:20 am
This Season will be very interesting,I predicted a .500 seaon for LU a year ago when they hired Howard.I wasnt that far off.Now with this recruiting class,the transfers,and the guys returning Im predicting some where around 8-2 or 9-1.This team is no joke now!!!!! Look for LU to do what people have been doing to them for years.RUNNING the score up every chance they get.The MWC is in for a rude awakening,LU is back and loaded !!!!!
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: JUSTINTYEM on July 25, 2006, 09:40:48 am
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Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on July 25, 2006, 11:10:08 am
This Season will be very interesting,I predicted a .500 seaon for LU a year ago when they hired Howard.I wasnt that far off.Now with this recruiting class,the transfers,and the guys returning Im predicting some where around 8-2 or 9-1.This team is no joke now!!!!! Look for LU to do what people have been doing to them for years.RUNNING the score up every chance they get.The MWC is in for a rude awakening,LU is back and loaded !!!!!

Better get out of the gate quick with Monmouth and SNC the first two weeks of conference play.  Some advice to the coaching staff, no matter how much you are beating Minnesota-Morris keep the starters in, the reps are crucial to success so early against the big boys of the MWC.  Getting Monmouth after Wartburg works in favor of Lawrence regardless of the outcome of the Wart vs. Monmouth game
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 25, 2006, 08:27:28 pm
JUSTINTYME

you said the "transfers" in your last post...is there anyone else aside from Wren? did that schuessler kid u talked about earlier end up there?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ScoutTeamHero on July 25, 2006, 09:35:59 pm
Congrats to everyone and their brothers for making the 500-MAN pre-season all american team.

MWC- 1 third team, 3 mentions

2 - Monmouth
1 - St. Norbert
1 - Beloit
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 27, 2006, 12:23:46 pm
any SNC fans know how they will be at the offensive skill positions this year? looking at the roster, it looks like they bring back some good players on defense, but the offense doesnt appear to have much...no running back with more than 146 yards and no receivers with more than 12 catches...anyone have any insight
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: JUSTINTYEM on July 27, 2006, 01:55:11 pm
From what i heard he did.But dont quote me on that as its second maybe third or fourth hand.But LU has a major question at QB this year as Aspenson from what i heard from a coach is ineligible due to grades.Tough break for the team.But they will be just fine.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kiltman85 on July 27, 2006, 05:23:24 pm
So a month or less until the Coaches Poll comes out for the conference.  Any predictions on what the order of the MWC will be this year?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 27, 2006, 08:35:42 pm
JUSTINTYME, hate to break it to you, but if Aspenson is out, Lawrence wont be "just fine"

looking at the stats, he made up over 50% of their offense last year and that was after missing a game...also if you look at their schedule, they lost to Knox and Ripon in the early going, combining for 23 points in the two games....

if they play Knox later in the year, they probably win by 30 or 40..the QB has to see some live action to really get a feel for the spread option game they run...a new QB, who will certianly be less expereinced and likely less talented, learning the system on the fly drops this team from being a potential 9 to 7 win team down to a 5 or 4 win team  in my mind
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kiltman85 on July 28, 2006, 12:33:00 pm
I have a feeling that Lawrence will be a tough team either way their QB situation works out.  This is a team that returns all but 2 starters on defense.  I remember watching the Monmouth-Lawrence game last year and thinking that this team is gonna be a force in the Midwest Conference.  They finished strong last year year with 3 straight victories and could have easily been 6-3 on the season instead of 4-5.  Their offense will be a question mark because they lose their only reciever from last year, but do have their running game back.  I think we could see an 8-2 or 7-3 team this year out of them. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Dolph Stanley on July 28, 2006, 01:20:30 pm
Anyone have any idea who plays QB for Beloit this year?  Even with a run centered offense, someone has to be able to at least make the opposition think they are capable of passing.  I know they were in on 1-2 solid QB recruits but its tough to start a freshman especially when you open the MWC with Monmouth.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on July 31, 2006, 10:22:52 pm
anyone know if jennings will be back at QB for Illinois College this year...what about this aspenson eligibility situation...who are st. norberts offensive weapons...its august 1st tommorrow, doesnt anyone want to talk football
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kiltman85 on July 31, 2006, 10:27:56 pm
All I know about St. Norbert is that they have their QB back.  They lost their starting O-line along with Meehan and St. George.  Like any powerhouse, they will still be good and will not be underestimated by anyone. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on August 01, 2006, 08:41:43 am
My son, the couch potato, says Schussler is on SNC's roster this year.  He also told me that they have a running back coming back who started ahead of Meehan a few years ago.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: ICBlue on August 01, 2006, 09:10:18 am
Jennings will be back at QB for IC.  100% healthy.  They did lose their best running back Crain (transferred, out of football). 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: JUSTINTYEM on August 02, 2006, 06:37:58 am
My son, the couch potato, says Schussler is on SNC's roster this year.  He also told me that they have a running back coming back who started ahead of Meehan a few years ago.
The schussler kid maybe at SNC.I never got a clear answer about him.But the RB that played ahead of Meehan was Wren,and he was at LU last fall.Got injured and went home to rehab.The returned to LU During the second tri-mester(BB season)as i saw him several times doing BB games staffing as a security person.So I doubt that he is on SNC's squad this fall.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on August 02, 2006, 09:34:13 am
My son, the couch potato, says Schussler is on SNC's roster this year.  He also told me that they have a running back coming back who started ahead of Meehan a few years ago.
The schussler kid maybe at SNC.I never got a clear answer about him.But the RB that played ahead of Meehan was Wren,and he was at LU last fall.Got injured and went home to rehab.The returned to LU During the second tri-mester(BB season)as i saw him several times doing BB games staffing as a security person.So I doubt that he is on SNC's squad this fall.
I wasn't talking about Wren.  It's somebody else. I just don't remember the kid's name.  I'll have to ask my boy who he is.  As far as Shussler goes I've been hearing he's coming back for two years now and I am skeptical.  However, the couch potato, who stayed in DePere this summer to lift and work with trainers, said he saw his name on the roster. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kiltman85 on August 02, 2006, 02:02:32 pm
30 days until official kickoff around division III
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on August 02, 2006, 07:56:32 pm
I just looked back at the stats on SNCs website papa, Meehan was their lead back the last three years and was second to wren as a freshman…the year before a sophomore named getschow led the team with wren second…so it could be that a kid was going to start over Meehan and got hurt early and is coming back or he may have gotten the names confused and it could be getschow coming back…I should point out, if it is getschow, he didn’t have gaudy numbers, 608 yards rushing to lead SNC in 2002

Is St Norbert the catholic version of BYU?, guys show up, play a year or two, go on a catholic mission and return a few years later to finish their careers?  :D
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on August 04, 2006, 07:59:05 am
The poll is out and Monmouth gets 10!

not ranked 10, ten points.

six more points than Wartburg.

Taking into account the game is at Wartburg the line must be even.

If Monmouth loses to Wartburg the MWC teams won't get any top twentyfive votes.  This is a very important game for the whole conference.

p.s. with five WIAC teams getting more votes than the best MWC team Monmouth is left with a regional ranking of 12.  Looks like UWW or St. John's again in the playoffs for the MWC AQ. :P
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kiltman85 on August 04, 2006, 12:46:12 pm
The bottom line with the regional ranking is that the region is stacked.  Preseason polls don't mean much though, look at UWW.  They were 21st in last years poll at this time and they ended up getting second.  It's good to see the MWC getting a few votes at least.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: BigtenBadger2006 on August 04, 2006, 08:33:55 pm
Anyone with College Football 2007 for PS2, I have created all ten MWC teams with named rosters, accurate abilities based on stats and similar playbooks for all ten teams. Rosters go 3 to 11 deep depending on position

if you are intrested in getting copy on your memory card, email me at bigtenbadger2006@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Jester76 on August 06, 2006, 08:28:51 pm
So does anyone have any ideas on what is going to happen with the Monmouth/Wartburg game?
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on August 06, 2006, 08:45:17 pm
So does anyone have any ideas on what is going to happen with the Monmouth/Wartburg game?

Monmouth received more votes than Wartburg did in the top twentyfive poll.  Monmouth is considered the best team in the MWC and Wartburg is considered the third best team in the IIAC.  So I think it is obvious.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: fightintitan2006 on August 06, 2006, 09:27:56 pm
obvious in what way?...I am sure the majority of people would take the top half of the IIAC over an MWC champ every day of the week.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: coocooforcoekohawk on August 06, 2006, 11:19:35 pm
obvious in what way?...

Wartburg is going to CRUSH the Scots! :o
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kiltman85 on August 08, 2006, 07:38:53 pm

Wartburg is going to CRUSH the Scots! :o
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As Lee Corso would say.....not so fast my friend!!  This will be a hard fought game that is going to come down to the wire.  Both teams are trying to replace a QB, but return some starters on offense and defense.  This game is a great opener for both teams.   
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: PapaSmurf on August 11, 2006, 07:08:43 pm
I just looked back at the stats on SNCs website papa, Meehan was their lead back the last three years and was second to wren as a freshman…the year before a sophomore named getschow led the team with wren second…so it could be that a kid was going to start over Meehan and got hurt early and is coming back or he may have gotten the names confused and it could be getschow coming back…I should point out, if it is getschow, he didn’t have gaudy numbers, 608 yards rushing to lead SNC in 2002


He is the returning back.  He had about 140 carries vs. Wren who had 110 that year and they both averaged about the same per carry.  I guess he'll be about 23 or 24 which puts him on par with the typical WIAC senior. ;)
The couch potato said he saw Schussler's name on a locker so I guess all that's left is for him to show up tomorrow to make it official.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: raiderguy on August 14, 2006, 07:06:40 pm
I know I need a life now!!!

Congratulations on the 100th page for the Midwest Conference!
Title: Belot Star
Post by: rome on August 15, 2006, 10:33:39 pm
care of www.beloit.edu

Rankinen Earns Pre-Season All-American Recognition
August 14, 2006
Lee Rankinen, a senior running back for the Buccaneer Football team, was recently recognized by Don Hansen's Football Gazette as a member of the publication's NCAA Division III Pre-Season All-American Team.
Rankinen, who rushed for 1,434 yards on 257 carries for 17 touchdowns during the 2005 season, earned Honorable Mention honors on the annual team. The 1,434 yards were the best ever for a single season in BC history while his 17 TDs were the second-best effort. For his career, he ranks #4 in both rushing yards (2,984) and rushing touchdowns (30). His average of 995 yards per season over his first three years puts him on pace to finish as the #2 rusher all-time.
The Football Gazette was started in 1987 as a way to recognize and honor small-college football and its players.
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 15, 2006, 10:37:10 pm
That's the Lake Woebegone Syndrome "All-American" team. Almost 200 players on the honorable mention list alone.

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/?p=216
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: rome on August 16, 2006, 08:05:30 am
Pat

I know your feelings on the topic---but he put up worthy numbers in an offense where you share the ball with 3 other backs--plus he led the MWC in rushing---lead your conference--again worthy of recognition. 
Title: Re: Midwest Conference
Post by: kiltman85 on August 16, 2006, 02:50:17 pm
I have to agree with Rome.  Those numbers are worthy of recognition especially since teams know that the ball is going to Rankin almost every down and he still puts up numbers like