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Title: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on March 01, 2005, 04:51:33 pm
Pat,
In your opinion were there any coaching moves in the F&M-Ursinus game that were or were not made that surprised you?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Cummings on March 01, 2005, 07:48:22 pm
Well...

Overall I was surprised that Wright was 0 for 9 from beyond the arc.  That isn't a coaching thing...more just a thing

I thought that GRob's defense on McGarvey was fantastic, but that being said, it was a classic example of having solid basketball players on a fundamentally sound team - give the "star" some trouble and a great player will find his teammates and adjust accordingly.  

GRob knew what he did in the anomaly that was the 90-61 F&M win earlier to keep McGarvey way off his game, but Coach Small adjusted incredibly with the play of McEvily/Shattuck/Furey/Fabian...

I really think that Ursinus's fundamentals can get them far, and that any postseason opponent is going to try to disrupt McGarvey.  If the rest of the Bears play as they did against F&M, a trip to the Sweet 16 could be in order.  

The Bears' biggest problem, obviously, could be the physical play of Ramapo...if the Bears get some officials who aren't used to NJAC-style play (and assuming a win against NYC Tech of course)...anything can happen.

Other than that Swish - to be roundabout...I was bcasting the game by myself and rather wrapped up in the play-by-play from my awkward angle at Mayser.  Nothing else seemed to jump out at me, although there certainly could have been things I missed...

Hence the benefit of having a color commentator.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gordon "Marco Scutaro" Mann on March 01, 2005, 10:45:37 pm
Speaking of which...

Since my better half will be at GMC on Thursday, I'll be solo for the following.

NCAA Sports and D3hoopsNet will broadcast Thursday evening’s NCAA Tournament men’s basketball game between the New York City Tech Yellow Jackets and the Ursinus College Bears live from Helfferich Hall in Collegeville, PA.

This is the first year of a new partnership between NCAA Host Communications and D3hoops.com to provide coverage of the road to the Division III Championship in Salem, Virginia.

Alumni, boosters, parents, and members of both campus communities will be able to listen to the game for free over the Internet through a stream linked off http://www.ncaasports.com.

Tip off is 7 PM with pregame coverage beginning at 6:45 PM.

I'll provide a more specific link if we have one later.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: PenningtonisGod on March 02, 2005, 07:51:11 pm
Some follow up comments from the discussion of F&M/Ursinus...

Great game all around in that, like pat said, no lead was greater than five.  The key to the game though was the early play of number 12 who was five for five from three point range in the first half.  McGarvy struggled for most of the first half, and if not for the great 5-5 performance Ursinus probably would have fallen out of the game.  

From an intensity standpoint, it didnt quite match the wow factor of the 2003 title game.  The fans seemed more into that one.  This game was so much back and forth that fans were more attentive than boisterous.  

As Pat referred to, the officials didnt affect the game.  Two of them were pretty quiet while the other was kind of all over the place.  At the end fouls were even and that's what you'd expect.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: d3pointer on March 02, 2005, 08:17:11 pm
SF23 - Do they offer Anger Management 101 at the 'Ford? Seriously, dude, at this rate you're going to have a stroke before you hit 25.

Fritz - Your post of 2/28 @ 2:42 a.m.(??) was sheer brilliance! That's why you're a starter and I'm just JV....

D3P
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Eric L. Powell on March 02, 2005, 10:00:07 pm
From the F&M Website -

In ECAC Mens Southern Division action:

Franklin And Marshall Diplomats   -   116
Lincoln University Lions          -   100.

I was not at the game. Too far to travel and get up for work the next morning in the middle of the week. No other details available yet.

I should be able to get to Mayser Center in Lancaster for this weekend's games (semifinals and final). GO DIPLOMATS!

Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Eric L. Powell on March 02, 2005, 10:10:33 pm
Folks -

In ECAC Southern Division Men's Basketball action:  

F&M defeats Lincoln  
Catholic defeats DeSales  
Carnegie Mellon defeats Gettsyburg  
Scranton defeats Alvernia.  

See everyone at Mayser Center in Lancaster on Friday and Saturday. Regards to all.  

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Eric L. Powell on March 02, 2005, 10:42:30 pm
Folks -  

Details on the F&M Lincoln game in the ECAC Southern Divsion tournament from the stats posted on the F&M website as follows:

Lincoln - Kearse (40), Myrick (29), White (11 points/12 rebounds), and Hickson (10).

F&M - Dan Lynch (32), Smith (26), Outerbridge (17), Chasen (12), Teschke (11), Leonard (11), Wright (7).

Lincoln: FG - 40% (32-80), TPFG - 28.6% (8-28), and FT - 77.8% (28-36).

F&M: FG - 60.7% (34-56), TPFG - 60.9% (14-23), and FT - 72.3% (34-47).

Rebounds: F&M - 40, Lincoln - 39.

A ton of fouls: 3 Lincoln players fouled out and several more had 4 fouls; 1 F&M player fouled out (Smith) and several more had four fouls.

Didn't see the game. GO DIPLOMATS. Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on March 02, 2005, 10:49:47 pm
A bunch of Lincoln's fouls came over the last few minutes as they tried to climb back from a big deficit.  If F&M hadn't missed a lot of their free throws down the stretch, they would have won by 20-25.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: atn alum on March 03, 2005, 02:38:23 pm
Just a reminder that the Urisnus/NYC Tech game tonight will be webcast by the NCAA using D3hoops.com personnel. http://www.d3hoops.com/audio for more information.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on March 03, 2005, 10:31:55 pm
The game tonight was great even though Ursinus lost by two points.  McGarvey seemed off his game tonight.  His offensive production wasn't as high as it usually is.

Ursinus is a young team and only one senior played tonight so I think they should be very good next season, I guess we will just have to wait and see.  Number 21 for Ursinus will be someone to watch over the next few years.  He is only a freshman and had an exceptional game.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D3Dip-lo-nut on March 04, 2005, 01:55:05 am
First, I have to agree with the point by "CC" that Ursinus should be very good next season.  I'd even go so far as to say they are the team to beat in the Centennial Conference.  I think they played underclassmen exclusively against F&M, so they definitely have a lot to look forward to.

That being said,  I have a trivia question:

Who was the last Centennial Conference team other than F&M to win an NCAA Tournament game?

Give up?  It was Johns Hopkins in 1998 !  They won a 1st round game over FDU-Madison by a score of 87-47 and then lost in the 2nd round 67-62 to Catholic.  Here are some recent results:

2005 Ursinus lost 68-66 at home vs. NYC Tech.
2004 F&M got to Elite 8 round after a 1st round bye and wins in the 2nd round and Sweet 16.
2003 Ursinus lost 77-75 at Scranton in the 2nd round after a 1st round bye.
2002 Gettysburg fell apart, losing 78-59 at home in the 1st round to Lycoming.
2001 Gettysburg lost 60-52 in the 1st round at Hampden-Sydney.
2000 F&M got to the FINAL FOUR and lost a heart-breaking, last second thriller (on a "no-call" foul) to eventual National Champion Calvin.
1999 F&M beat Johns Hopkins 81-66 in the 1st round and then got paid back at Wilkes in a 77-58 crushing (the term "paid back" refers to the Diplomats 107-70 annihilation of the Colonels in the 1996 Elite 8)
1998 The CC Champion Muhlenberg Mules lost 77-61 to Scranton in the 1st round.  Johns Hopkins, with an at-large bid, beat FDU-Madison 87-47 in the 1st round.  Johns Hopkins then lost 67-62 in the 2nd round to Catholic.

I can't remember the last time a CC team other than F&M won a game in the 2nd round or later.  I guess it would have to have been in 1997 if ever (but doubtful) when Dickinson won the CC, because F&M dominated the CC from it's inception in 1993 through 1996.  In those 4 years, they went to the Sweet 16 in 1993, 1994, and 1995.  In 1996 they got to the FINAL FOUR where they ran into some unfortunate bad timing of illness and injuries.

My point out of all this is that F&M is the ONLY team in the Centennial Conference that has proven it can go DEEP into the NCAA Tournament.  Granted, they probably did not deserve an at-large bid this year; but I think they definitely did not deserve to be snubbed in 2002 and 2003 when they had great regular seasons but lost at the wrong time.  Like they say, you gotta win your conference.  We'll see what Glenn Robinson can come up with next year -- he never ceases to amaze me how he wins year after year after year ..........

p.s. F&M also won the ECAC in 2002 & 2003, the only 2 times I remember them being in that tournament.  There should be some great competition there this weekend, as the Dips host the semis and finals after beating Lincoln 116-100 in the quarters on Wednesday.

(Message edited by Diplonut on March 4, 2005)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: PenningtonisGod on March 04, 2005, 01:05:56 pm
Hey Nut,

Very good analysis about F&M in the tournament.  I must say I have been surprised about UC's early exits.  I had a feeling they would have won their opener this year, and they definitely looked like a sweet 16 team a few years back.  As for Gettysburg, their 02 loss was no surprise as they had no place in the tournament after one of the poorest officiated games i have ever seen.

Hopefully the opening of more bids next year will prevent years like 02 and 03 where a very good Dip team did not make the tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2005, 01:35:14 pm
You wanted a push-off called on Foltice on that buzzer-beater? I didn't see it that way. Our broadcast crew, if I recall correctly, saw it as Sadowski going for the steal and being out of position to defend the shot.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Jeff Maynes on March 04, 2005, 06:05:46 pm
I don't think it is fair to say Gettysburg fell apart against Lycoming.  They brought the score very close with about five minutes remaining, but were unable to get over the hump.  The margin was inflated by free throw shooting.

And I hope we won't have to hear the "conspiracy theories" about 02 again.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: d3sthebest on March 04, 2005, 08:04:54 pm
jeff,
are you from connecticut?
i know some hoops fanatics with this surname.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Matt Letourneau on March 04, 2005, 11:22:11 pm
The F&M Athletics website is down so I can't confirm, but F&M defeated Scranton and Catholic defeated Carneigie Mellon tonight, setting up CUA vs F&M in a rematch at 7 pm tomorrow night. If anyone has updated information on the time, please post up.

CUA beat CMU by 15 tonight, but I don't have any details...Catholic wins  its 20th game for its EIGHTH straight season.  20 wins is not too bad for a rookie coach and a team that lost 3 starters, including a 1st team All American.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Jeff Maynes on March 05, 2005, 10:44:14 am
Sure am D3sthebest - I'm a Tolland, CT native.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D3Dip-lo-nut on March 05, 2005, 03:33:25 pm
Pat: Is there a video available of the 2000 F&M vs. Calvin Semi Final?  I was there, as were you, but it all happened so quickly.  To the best of my recollection it was a "push off".  I ran into Sadowski and Maiatico (or was it Ritacco?) at Ursinus in 2003 and they still swear "he was pushed".  I'm not suggesting a Warren Commission on this, but I would like to go to my grave knowing for sure one way or another what definitely happened.  Our loss in the 1991 Finals was heart breaking, but it was without major controversy.  It's similar to how NYU probably still feels about their 1994 loss in OT to Lebanon Valley.  You remember -- the tip in AFTER the buzzer to send it into overtime.  Nothing will ever change history at this point, but it would be nice to know.  Care to hear any more sour grapes?

p.s.  LVC was and still is a bitter rivalry for the Dips, but I have no ill will toward them for a call that helped them win a national title.  They have done what F&M has yet to do -- bring home the champions hardware.  I'm rooting for them tonight at SJ Fish since they represent our region.  Go FD !
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on March 05, 2005, 03:43:22 pm
D3Dip-lo-nut:

Thanks for pulling for the Dutchmen tonight.  

In return, I'll cheer for the Dips (though if GRob hears that an LVC fan is on his side, even for one game, he'll likely get a terminal case of the vapors. :-O)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D3Dip-lo-nut on March 05, 2005, 05:09:27 pm
I won't be there, but I'll be listening through this link I found:

www.lvc.edu/lvc.asx

Hope it works!

p.s.  Remember the time about 10 years ago when ESPN did a 5 minute piece on the F&M vs. LVC rivalry?  D-III gets so little coverage nationally, so I was very impressed.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on March 05, 2005, 05:15:56 pm
lo-nut:

Yes, I hope it works. That's the log-in for the LVC closed-circuit radio station. Frequent poster Tim Flynn is the head honcho for the station.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D3Dip-lo-nut on March 05, 2005, 08:58:54 pm
Sorry Dub Tea:

Valley on short end of 66-58 final.

But on the bright side, my Dips took their 3rd ECAC championship in 4 years with a 66-56 pasting of Catholic!

See ya'll next year .....
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Matt Letourneau on March 06, 2005, 12:20:11 am
Good game at F&M, but what's with the excessive adjectives? On here, its a 'pasting,' but the F&M release has this paragraph:

"Overall, the Diplomats dominated in the game as F&M made 21-of-53 (39.6%) from the floor, six-of-17 (35.3%) from beyond the arc and a school record 18-of-18 from the free throw line."

DOMINATED? 39% from the field? Catholic shot 44%...this was a 1 point game with 10 minutes left...it was a close game until the end.  

Hardly dominating...pretty good showing, sure, but Catholic slowed down the tempo pretty well and Spirenberg completely shut down Danny Lynch. Had Satalin not being playing hurt...  

Congrats to the Dips though...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on March 06, 2005, 01:22:48 am
Matt, the F&M press releases are never very good in that respect.  As for D3Dip-lo-nut's description, well, either he wasn't there or he's prone to some serious exaggeration.  Catholic gave F&M their toughest game of the ECAC tournament BY FAR.

As for you saying "Had Satalin not been playing hurt ...", my response is:

Had Bob Lynch not missed most of the season ...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Matt Letourneau on March 06, 2005, 11:43:12 am
Good point friz...you can never get into that 'what if' game because it never ends...'had Mike Lonergan not left for Maryland and all our recruits not gone somewhere else because Mike left...' Ha...you play with the hand you are dealt. I shouldn't have even gone there!

I understand that the press release has been altered.  Small point, but accuracy is always good.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Crazy Carl on March 07, 2005, 01:41:55 pm
Had LeBron decided to go to Carleton College with me rather than straight to the NBA . . .

Yeah, I went there :-)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Eric L. Powell on June 07, 2005, 12:55:41 pm
Fellow Centennial Conference Fans -

I note that McDaniel College has hired a new men's coach to replace Former Coach Dull. I wasn't aware that he had left McDaniel. Does anyone know the circumstances of or the reasons for his departure? Perhaps, the less than stellar win-loss record?

Hope that everyone is enjoying summer now that it has finally arrived in west-central PA! Just think, less than six whole months until the start of the 2005-2006 season! Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: beantown baby on June 14, 2005, 11:18:23 pm
Dull was fired from McDaniel for the poor record.  I also heard that he may have clashed with the administration.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on June 23, 2005, 03:31:55 pm
Does anyone know how Dennis Stanton is doing with his basketball career?  Last I heard, he was playing professional basketball in Denmark.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Eric L. Powell on June 24, 2005, 10:51:12 am
Beantown -

Thanks for the information. I can't say that I am surprised given the won-loss record. I am also not surprised that he may have had trouble with the Administration. Whenever I saw a McDaniel game, he had more trouble with the referees than GRob has!

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Eric L. Powell on June 24, 2005, 10:53:52 am
Fellow Centennial Conference Fans -

It's almost July. Does anyone have any news from around the conference concerning recruits, transfers, injuries, or schedules? Please advise. Thanks.

Let's get some buzz going in the room again! Hope everyone is enjoying a great summer. Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: beantown baby on June 29, 2005, 04:11:52 pm
Kyle O'Connor left McDaniel, and is at Marymount.  I heard McDaniel has a solid recruiting class.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 16, 2005, 02:19:55 pm
Pat -

I like the new look and format! Great job.  ;D

It will take a little getting used to for most of us. Heck, I had trouble and had to re-set my password. ???
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 16, 2005, 05:49:07 pm
Well, hey, now you can post on football, too. Centennial football board is usually pretty slow.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 16, 2005, 08:01:46 pm
Fellow Cenetennial Conference Fans -

Now that we have an improved site and better software, I am going to try this one more time. Let's get this board buzzing again! Is there any news on recruits, schedules, or even pre-season predictions? Will GRob's Dips go 3-0 to start the season and give him coaching win # 700?

I can hardly wait for the new season to begin! Hope everyone is enjoying the summer. Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 16, 2005, 08:19:33 pm
Folks -

Recently, I received some interesting information concerning Diplomat Tournament Pairings for the 2005-2006 season from Ed Haas, F&M Sports Information Director. It is as follows:

SPONAUGLE TOURNAMENT:

Courtland vs. Gwynedd-Mercy College
F&M vs. Emerson College

ROTARY TOURNAMENT (NEW YEAR'S):

Lincoln University vs. Mitchell College
F&M vs. Juniata College

It is very possible the Coach Robinson's 700th career coaching win could come against the Alvernia College Crusaders at the Sovereign Center in Reading, PA on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. The site for that game has not been completely determined as of this date.

It would certainly be more appropriate if # 700 would be achieved at Mayser Center in Lancaster! Perhaps, ESPN could be convinced to cover or, at the very least, report on this milestone. Pat and Warren any thoughts?

GO DIPS!

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 17, 2005, 03:25:47 pm
Hey guys -

Are there any Centennial Conference Fans out there or is everyone at the shore??

Does anyone have news they wish to share?

Bring on the season now!

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 18, 2005, 08:54:26 am
Folks -

News from F&M's website: Guard Jerome Maiatico (Class of 2000) has been named to the F&M Athletics Department Hall Of Fame. It is his first year of eligibility. This marks the first time that an F&M athlete has been selected in the first year of eligibility.

Jerome was a class scholar-athlete and is well-deserving of this honor. Congratulations to Jerome!

Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on August 18, 2005, 09:07:11 am
Eric,

Do you know what other out of conference teams F&M plays this year?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on August 18, 2005, 11:14:19 am
Eric,

Is there somewhere I can find a F&M schedule? Also, what's the story with the Alvernia game possibly being played at Sovereign Arena in Reading? More details please. Thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: slim on August 18, 2005, 05:33:55 pm
Are there any Centennial Conference Fans out there ...??

Eric,

Yes, there are other Diplomat fans looking forward to this season! 

Slim

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 18, 2005, 08:35:50 pm
Swish -

The six confirmed non-conference games that I am aware of are as follows:

Sponaugle Tournament - 2 games
December 1 - Lebanon Valley College - 1 game
Rotary Tournament - 2 games
TBA - Alvernia College - 1 game.

By my count, with eighteen Centennial Conference games, that leaves one more non-conference game to be announced. I am assuming that it will be an in-region opponent based on NCAA tournament selection criteria.

The Alvernia game is not yet scheduled. However, it will be later in the season and in Lancaster. So, a game at the Sovereign Center is out!

Schedules have not be published or made available yet. Hope this information is helpful. I can't hardly wait for November 18th! ;D

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 18, 2005, 08:38:16 pm
Pat -

What exactly does term "Karma" located in the left-hand margin of the posts signify? Please advise. thanks.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 19, 2005, 04:40:50 pm
Swish, Slim, and other F&M Fans -

Here is some more information on F&M games that I received from Ed Haas, F&M's Sports Information Director:

"F&M-Alvernia -- December 30 in Lancaster

The other game was Catholic on December 21 - but they have backed out. They are still trying to get a deal done with Catholic for here in Lancaster, but Glenn is also looking at other opponents as well."

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 22, 2005, 07:57:41 pm
Swish -

Any thoughts on the starting line-up for the 2005-2006 season? At this point, I suppose its: Outerbridge, Smith, Teschke, and Leonard. I think F&M's biggest need is inside at the Center position. Who starts there - Fogg (finally in his senior year) or does Coach Robinson go with one of the underclassmen -Lacatena or Hines, etc? I think we should have decent depth at guard and small forward. Any comments?

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: John Gleich on August 23, 2005, 12:23:51 am
Diplomat,

If you "applaud" a post, the person gets +1 karma.  If you "smite" someone, then they get -1 karma.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on August 23, 2005, 03:53:30 pm
Dennis Stanton averaged 41 points per game in Denmark.  He is continuing his professional basketball career at a higher level in Poland next year.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on August 24, 2005, 02:49:22 pm
As you said, the middle will be the unknown piece of the puzzle this year. G-Rob could go with several different big line-ups based upon who is returning. I'm anxious to see if they bring a freshman in that is good enough to see time. Do you know anything about any of this years recruits?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 25, 2005, 05:47:06 pm
Swish -

I haven't heard anything about new freshman recruits or upperclass transfers. F&M usually takes quite awhile to post its team roster on the Athletic Department webpage. I have been told in the past that the delay is due to the roster still being finalized. However, if I hear anything, I will certainly post it.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on September 07, 2005, 06:23:39 pm
Folks -

Welcome Back! Now that the colleges are back in session, I thought that this board might get busier with more comments and more posters and more "trash-talkers".

Are there any Centennial Conference fans out there? Does anyone have interesting infromation, scouting reports, predictions, or boasts to share?

Let the updates begin! Regards to all

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on September 20, 2005, 05:24:36 pm

Fellow Centennial Conference Fans -

Here is a link to an interesting non-basketball-related news article on F&M Coach Glenn Robinson. Enjoy!

http://server1.fandm.edu/departments/athletics/mbasket/stories/05D7956CB2.html

Only on month to go until pratice begins and two months to go until the season starts! Go Diplomats!

Regards to all.


Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on September 21, 2005, 10:06:35 am
Ursinus went 4 - 0 in Ireland over the summer.

http://www.ursinus.edu/content.asp?page=wintersports/BasketballM/2005Ireland.html
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on October 04, 2005, 04:30:04 pm

D3Dip-lo-nut, Fritzdis, Slim, Swish, et. al. -

Just a quick note to let you know that F&M has now posted its 2005-2006 schedule on the Men's Basketball page of its website.  ;D Yea!

Ten days to "Midnight Madness" and just over six weeks until the season begins. Finally!!! I can hardly wait. Bring on the season.

Does anyone have information on recruits. Please advise.

Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on October 04, 2005, 07:13:10 pm
Well, I guess we'll find out how good we're going to be in a hurry. Starting out with Gwynedd-Mercy - they lost their big guy but still have some good athletes. If we get by them we'll probably face Trinity who, my guess is, will be in the pre-season top 10. They have everyone coming back this year except for their point guard. So who do they get - a 6'2" transfer PG from Boston University that saw playing time as a sophomore. Should be an interesting touney.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on October 13, 2005, 05:24:01 pm
No way GMC is anywhere near where they have been without Gaye.

That being said, I'm sure John Baron is reading this and will find a way to go 20-5.

Or not.

Getting revved for the season.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on October 14, 2005, 08:42:05 am
Pat-
I agree. Losing Gaye is a big hit. But remember, F&M lost both Lynches and I think Bob played in the game aginst GM before he got hurt. It will be interesting to see who (if anybody) steps up for F&M this year. They have three starters back but only one is a senior. Fogg,Chasen and Leonard all got significant time last year even though they didn't start. They should be able to fill some holes. Then any freshman which we seem to get every year as role players. My prediction- 20-5 with Ursinus winning the Conference.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: oldfummer on October 22, 2005, 03:00:27 pm
Did anyone attend the Midnight Madness at F&M last night?  Would like a scouting report, especially on newbies.  Any new talent - any height?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on October 22, 2005, 07:13:10 pm
Attended F&M Midnight Madness
Hard to tell about the talent.
One wide body freshman, but looked out of shape.
One transfer with potential-average height.(six-five or six-six)
Hard to judge only scrimmaged for 20 minutes, and many freshmen, as expected, were out of sync.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: heartofachampion on October 24, 2005, 07:27:49 pm
The word on campus is F&M should be good this year, only time will tell.  But I cannot wait till the season starts.  I am expecting great things from Brandon Smith this year.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on October 26, 2005, 01:11:00 pm
GMC-F&M should be a battle of two teams trying to figure out exactly what they have.  Both teams saw big losses, but Gaye's loss will likely cut GMC deeper.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 01, 2005, 09:22:29 pm
As I prepare for my 40th season of F&M basketball.  This would be my top 10 players(no significance to listing):
Smith
Scott
Juskin
Plakans
MARSH
Jannetta
Manaskie
Finch
Markey
Laskey

Valentine, if he had played all 3 years--fantastic  freshman('69)

This list leaves off a lot of good players and some of my favorites to watch.
Some left off the list were inconsistent from game to game.

17 more days
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 02, 2005, 12:50:57 am
Being a fan of the Dips & D3 basketball for about 28 years may make me a relative newcomer but I'll throw out my top 10-12 in approximate order of positive long term appreciation of excellence & thrill.

1. Donny Marsh !! (best ever) Led 1979 squad to 1st Final Four
2. Chris Finch, very versatile led team to 50+ romp over Ramapo in '91 FF Semi
3. Al Taylor, a flash of him pick-pocketing Lester Wallace to beat WMC at buzzer
4. Terry Scott, steady, tough & dependable
5. Denny Westley, being triple teamed by Widener while playing with pneumonia
6. Ed Plakans, alternating chants of "Eddie" by F&M & Platteville fans in '91 final
7. Brad Markey, led charge to near 30-point comeback at So. Maine in '89 E8 tilt
8. Matt Steinmetz, his nearly upsetting Princeton in OT almost by himself
9. Mehaffey/Henry, "Beach Boy & Lefty" led '96 juggernaut past Wilkes to FF
10. Jerome Maiatico, scholar athlete & flashy scorer that was key to '00 FF run

Many great memories & players not discussed for lack of room. More recent player who only played one year as freshman but would likely have had a great career was Kelleher who ran superb point for 1996 super team. A special mention of the last second heroics of Phil Hoeker & clutch technical free throw made by Art Mascolo to beat D1 Colgate in '87.

A trip down Dip memory lane is something that isn't often done here. Enjoyed it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 05, 2005, 11:08:36 pm
Agreed, it would have been nice to see Chris Kelliher develop over 4 years.  His stifling defense set the table for everything that '96 team accomplished and gave opposing guards absolute fits (see: Lycoming and Wilkes in NCAAs).  Didn't score much, but didn't have to with Henry and Mehaffey there.  A really fun a player to watch if you like good defense.

As for this year, Ursinus fans must be excited.  Not many players like McGarvey out there, and he has quite a cast to help him.  Many questions for teams such as Hopkins and F&M, but they will soon be answered.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on November 06, 2005, 09:29:21 am
Hopkins may be in the thick of things. They lack a good point guard since Frank Mason is no longer playing but they return 3 or 4 good players in the 2 to 5 spots. They also brought in a 6'10" freshman that was getting some looks from some Patriot league schools. If he can make an impact they could be very tough as they have Nawrocki(sp?) back. He's big 6'6"240 lbs. and has good hands. They also have some good outside shooters. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on November 07, 2005, 12:56:33 pm
My prediction of the results for the CC pre-season coaches poll.

1. Ursinus
2. Hopkins
3. F&M
4.Gettysburg
5.Haverford
6.Muhlenberg
7. Dickinson
8. Washington
9. McD
10. Swarthmore
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 07, 2005, 04:53:35 pm
Swish-

Interesting picks.  Ursinus should be the clear favorite.  F&M usually gets good marks in the CC preseason poll because of Robinson's consistency, but I agree that Hopkins should be higher than the Dips at this point with the return of Nawrocki et al.  F&M has too many questions - especially in the post - to be considered any higher than third.

Something tells me Muhlenberg will be good this year.  They lost some scoring, but Stewart is a terrific scorer and rebounder with some solid role players around him.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on November 07, 2005, 05:28:36 pm
Even though they beat F&M last year I don't expect Muhlenberg to be a real contender. Stewart is excellent. After that the rest of the players are mediocre,
I see F&M as being very strong at the 1,3 and 4. We should be OK at the two. And although center is a question mark there are two or three players that have some talent. It's just a matter of one of them stepping up.
Looking at F&M this year I think we'll see a team with decent size and better than average athletes. I'd also say I think we have pretty good depth at the 3 and 4.
By the way, Ursinus is the team to beat but they are not unbeatable.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 11, 2005, 08:47:04 am
One week until tip-off.
Bring on GMC.
Can't wait to see what F&M has.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: localfan on November 15, 2005, 09:35:34 am
Guess I'll try this again. Somehow my last post ended up on the football page. Sorry about that.
Anyway, This upcoming "Pride of Maryland" tournament this weekend looks very interesting. Washington opens up with Hood College, which is only in its third year but has some good talent. Hopkins and McDaniels open up against Salisbury and Frostburg respectively. Could end up with an old fashion Hopkins/Goucher game for the championship game on Sunday.
I feel that since this tourny is at the start of the season, it's wide open and anyone can win it. I look for a few upsets on Friday and Saturday.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 15, 2005, 12:55:14 pm
F&M's team roster is finally up on the their team homepage. I am a bit worried that it appears the team will not have a strong inside game this year.  It looks like Josh Fogg (at 200 #) will be playing at center. He was always a nice off the bench role or fill-in player, solid but was not usually able to score much. The only player with size back is Hines who looked promising in the early going last year, but after he got a concussion he didn't play much & when he did his play was not as sharp as it was before he got hurt.
I have doubts that any of the newcomers are going to be big parts of squad. The transfer from Randolph Macon looks like he was the last bench player on a RMC team that had a sub-par year. Little turns up in media searches of the freshman players to indicate a frosh class that will help the team this year.
Smith is outstanding, Outerbridge is very good. Teschke should benefit from last years starting experience. I have high hopes for Leonard as his athleticism impressed me last year. Chasen may also show progress from getting PT last year.
In summery this team has some potential to be good (win 18-19 games or so) but has  weakness in the inside muscle department. Ursinus lost only 2 players from a strong team both of whom seldom scored any points. With the improvement I expect from the other players they are the prohibitive favorite & should win around 22 games if no injuries. Hopkins should also win 17 or so games and has the type of team that could give Dips a heap of trouble. Other teams like G-berg & Mules will contend with Haverford (Black Squirrels should not be quite as strong this season) for last playoff spot.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on November 15, 2005, 04:36:48 pm
I've only heard a few bits and pieces about the state of the team at this point but here's what I know. They do have injuries to some key players. Don't know if any of these are season ending but I wouldn't be surprised.

The middle will probably be handled by committee(Fogg and Hines). We're fairly deep at the 1-4 positions with two or three good guards and three or four good forwards.

My gut tells me this team will pull it together slowly as long as nobody tries to be a superstar. They truly have to play as a TEAM this year. I don't think they played that way last year at all.

They may be a little light in the middle but really have all the other ingredients I believe. They can play "D; they can handle the ball; they can shoot pretty well from the outside and they can rebound (remember Smith was one of the leading rebouders in the league last year).

I think we're going to see a totally different kind of F&M team this year (in terms of style of play). It may not happen the first weekend but I am certain nobody will want any part of F&M(even though we will probably be the second or third seed) come conference play-off time.



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 15, 2005, 05:49:41 pm
I am certain nobody will want any part of F&M (even though we will probably be the second or third seed) come conference play-off time.

That's a pretty bold statement to be making in November, especially given how many questions - and, according to you, injuries - surround the Dips. 

Point taken about the talent in the backcourt and on the wing.  I agree.  But I've also seen a few talented F&M teams peak in midseason and not play their best come late February.  So how can you be certain?

Robinson's system demands that the Dips work the ball inside effectively.  With so many question marks in the post, I don't think anyone can say for sure how good this team will be until we see how these guys play together for a few games.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on November 15, 2005, 06:16:24 pm
Maybe "certain" was too strong a word. How about confident?

What I was really getting at is that  although F&M will probably not be as good as they were the past few years, I think other teams know that even on a down year G-Rob has a way of getting a lot out of his teams. With G-Rob and a core of very good players they become a tough team even as a low seed and can beat almost anybody.

And by the way, a down year for F&M this year could be 19-6.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: heartofachampion on November 15, 2005, 09:30:25 pm
I don't think anyone will beat Ursinus for the conf title.  I think F&M is the third best team behind Ursinus and Hopkins, and that might be generous from what people are saying about this years frosh class.  I hope I am wrong, but this could be a down year for my dear old F&M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on November 16, 2005, 06:54:56 pm
The 2005-06 Centennial Conference Basketball Prospectus is now available online at http://www.centennial.org/basketball/prospectus .  The Prospectus includes the coaches preseason poll, which tabs Ursinus as the favorite to defend its 2006 title. It has rosters, stats, schedules and all the facts and figures that a Centennial basketball fan could want entering the new season.  We hope you enjoy the prospectus.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on November 18, 2005, 11:19:28 am
I hope Ursinus can start the season with a win tonight against NYU.  I have not heard anything about their new recruits but they do return all 5 starters.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: localfan on November 19, 2005, 09:06:34 am
The Centenial Conference teams off to a good start in the Pride of Maryland tourny. 3 wins and no losses. Today, Washington takes on Villa Julie, while Hopkins faces Mcdaniels.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 19, 2005, 11:26:25 pm
Poor rebounding killed F&M in tonight's overtime loss to Trinity.  The Dips had a chance to win with a few seconds remaining in regulation but couldn't get a clean look.

The bottom line was that Trinity got loads of second chance points.  Tyler Rhoten was very impressive.  For F&M, it was a disappointing way to end an incredible offensive performace by Brandon Smith (33 points).

Although Robinson is still trying to figure out what he has, there's potential for this team to be very good.

A win over a NESCAC team would have been good for the CC, but F&M was just unable to close it out.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: VJC SID on November 20, 2005, 12:24:29 am
Pride of MD scores from Saturday

Semifinals

Hopkins  88
McDaniel 80

VJC 100
Washington 93     (2OT)

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: VJC SID on November 20, 2005, 10:04:24 pm
Pride of Maryland Final from Sunday

Finals

VJC 81  (OT)
JHU 78

Anthony Fitzgerald wins MVP

Third Place Game

McDaniel   91
Washington  85

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on November 22, 2005, 10:10:38 am
RWMcN -

Are you saying that F&M ran out of gas?  Didn't have the depth?  How were they uable to 'close it out?'
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 22, 2005, 12:32:38 pm
F&M got beat on the boards.  They will need to get more aggressive underneath and not allow themselves to be dominated.
The guards played well, but need to get more involved in the offense.  Outerbridge was the only one forcing the offense from the guard position.
Smith played well but allowed the officiating to get under his skin.
Yost, Teschke. and Hines need to be more physical, but the potential is there.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 22, 2005, 01:47:59 pm
C-

F&M didn't "run out of gas."  I think they have good depth, especially in the backcourt and on the wing.

The problem vs. Trinity was rebounding.  As Reserved Seat said, they got beat on the boards, especially late in the game.  Tyler Rhoten and the Trinity big guys got the job done and F&M's post players didn't.

The Dips are an inexperienced bunch inside.  Hines and Teschke may not be Juskin and Lynch, but they do some things well.  Yost, the 6-6 soph. transfer from Randolph-Macon, is going to be a very good player.  But F&M will probably have a few growing pains against teams with experienced big men.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on November 22, 2005, 06:21:05 pm
Thanks for the clarification guys.

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on November 22, 2005, 10:57:13 pm
Ugly win for F&M tonight over Juniata, despite the 82-60 final score.  26 turnovers is absurd.  Even the 40-26 rebounding advantage is misleading because Juniata missed so many more shots than F&M.

I held off on posting after the first 2 games because I didn't know what to make of the team.  Well, I still don't.  I'm not sure I see quite as much potential as some other posters have noted.  The inside guys simply don't have the size or strength to compete defensively against some frontcourts.  They're getting pushed out of position consistently, making the entry passes easy, and I'm not sure how much they can improve that.  I think their rebounding will continue to suffer because of this as well.

On offense, neither Hines nor Yost seems to be able to finish around the hoop.  Yost's inability to go up strong is particularly frustrating because the rest of his game looks pretty good.  Also, the guard depth, which should be a strength, has been disappointing.  Outerbridge and Smith have been very good (although Smith may be forcing the issue too much), but no one else has stepped up.  Chasen has looked lost.  Hopefully he just needs more time to come all the way back from his injury (anybody know the details of that, by the way?).

Maybe I'm just being too impatient.  I can see how this team could be very good against some types of teams, but they will struggle all year against teams with strong frontcourts.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 27, 2005, 04:51:42 pm
CC halftime scores:
Ursinus 29 LVC 20 (Bears sporting balanced attack)
F&M 44 SWAT 30
Dips ahead in what sounds like an ugly, sloppy contest. One highlight is Leonard pacing the way with 14, hitting some trifectas. In spite of not being pretty, a win will still get Coach Robinson win # 700.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 27, 2005, 06:06:05 pm
Ursinus handles LVC apparently 70-46. I thought this might be a barometer on the 2 conferences between 2 post season contenders, but it's hard to judge as it looks like Dutchmen couldn't make anything from anywhere. They've got to be better than that, plus Bears may well be quite strong.
Dips give Robinson his 700th win by only 12 points, but the performance was seemingly hideous. Too many turnovers & being outrebounded & outscored inside by SWAT may be a unfortunate harbinger for this season.
I now will guess F&M has little or no chance to win at Bream this Tuesday & should be solidly favored to lose at LVC (who was humbled by Ursinus today) in their difficult confines. I now downgrade my prediction for the Dips to 16-10 & 4th place in CC, it would be the worst finish since 1997. What do those who actually saw the debacle think?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 27, 2005, 08:37:41 pm
Another milestone for Robinson.  Well done, coach.  Consistency at such a high level for three decades is unequaled in Division III.

Now for the bad news.  No doubt Robinson has seen some ugly wins among his 700, but this was really awful.  Yes, this is a young team, and they're trying to fit the pieces together.  But ZERO assists from the starting backcourt?  And the inside game was yet again non-existent.  Everyone could have played better today.

Gettysburg coach George Petrie was spotted in the Mayser bleachers, and he must have been licking his chops after scouting that performance by F&M.  It will be a tall task for the Dips to win in Bream on Tuesday.  Ursinus will win this conference going away.

Again, congrats to Robinson, but this one was ugly.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 27, 2005, 08:43:46 pm
Above post should read "zero assists from starting point guard."  Leonard, who replaced Paulauskas as the shooting guard, had two assists.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on November 27, 2005, 11:40:53 pm
Mr. Mxyztplk (great handle, by the way):

I think Ursinus-Albright or maybe even Ursinus-Widener would be a better gauge of Centennial-vs-MAC playoff contenders.  We'll see how well Leb Val fares following the graduation of their All-Amercian, JD Beyers.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 28, 2005, 12:32:17 am
Gordon, it does look like those would be great match-ups. Neither has lost a game yet. Both have one nice win. Widener @ Lyco & Albright putting on a frenetic comeback to hold off the talented Lincoln "Road Warriers" @ home. LVC, Juniata, E-town & Messiah are likely vying for the remaining spots. Does not look like Ursinus has any serious challengers in the Centennial (Maybe JHU). BY mid-January things should be more clear.
Ursinus has only two remaining out of conference challenges in York (PA) & Trinity (CT), but they are games that could be quite interesting.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on November 28, 2005, 07:07:01 am
RW McN -

Got to agree with you.  This is not a top tier team.  Plus when you figure F&M's traditional struggles on the road against top conference competitors, you can look to possible losses at GBurg, JHU and Ursinus.

Congratulations to GRob on putting together a consistently winning program for a long time.

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: beantown on November 28, 2005, 04:58:04 pm
McDaniel looks ok so far- any thoughts on the Terror.  It sounds like Flynn is a good job
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 29, 2005, 10:15:48 pm
Haverford 66-Muhl 63. In a borderline upset, perhaps a factor was Stewert fouling out in a game that went down to the wire.
In a bit of a stunner to me F&M 73-Gburg 61 at Hen Bream where Bullets are usually tough. Dips open up big lead and withstand apparent 3 point second half barrage & several runs by game home team. Bullets recently played an excellent game @ # 6 York and only lost a close contest by nine. I didn't think this would be an F&M game to win based on lackluster efforts in last two games.
If GRob can get this team to NCAAs it might be his best coaching job to date. Admittedly G-burg doesn't have the best inside game in the CC, but if they can compete with York on the road they must be decent. Tough contest in the backyard brawl in Annville on Thursday. It should be my first trip to Duthmen's new gym if nothing goes wrong for me.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 29, 2005, 11:12:29 pm
If Robinson can get the effort under the boards, F&M should be able to hang with most teams.  Consistent work in the back court will be a key.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on November 30, 2005, 12:04:29 am
Well, F&M still hasn't played a good 40 minutes, but their first 8 minutes tonight were awfully impressive, as they started the game with a 23-3 run.  Outerbridge bombed some REALLY deep 3s, while Teschke and Hines both hit some nice mid-range jumpers.  After F&M's intitial outburst, Gburg responded with a 10-point run of their own, but Logan had a great behind-the-back assist to Fogg on a fast break to end that particular Gburg rally.  If Smith hadn't been so cold (4-11, 0-3 3s, 1-4 FT), F&M might have been able to put the game away earlier.  Nonetheless, it was nice to see they could withstand Gburg's rallies.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on November 30, 2005, 01:21:08 am
You can never doubt Grob and the Dips.  Hopefully, they will continue to grow as a team bc they seem to have lot of depth and GRob seems to be able to put a lot of interchangable lineups on the floor.

I think once this kid Yost is comfortable in the system he will be force especially down low and on the boards.  The one game i saw he seemed to have a nice mid range.

Long season but a nice win where the crowd is usually pretty tough.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on November 30, 2005, 09:12:47 am
I disagree with a few comments made about F&M. First of all, they did play a full 40 minutes last night. I'm not sure what people expect. Are they supposed to continue playing the whole game like they did the first 10-15 minutes. If they had, the score would have been 64- 18. They played in one of the toughest away venues in the CC and never gave up the lead and won by 12.
This is a VERY young team. At one point last night they had five players on the court at the same time of which NONE had significant playing time until this year. I believe it was three sophmores and two juniors.
Lastly, go ahead and give Grob credit - he's a great coach. But you might want to look at the heart of some of these players. They are 4-1 losing in overtime to a very good Trinity team. Like GRob says - he doesn't dribble, rebound or shoot the ball. The credit for this win goes to the players. They fought the whole way for this one and THEY are the reason F&M won last night.
I don't know if this team of all underclassmen (except for one senior) will make it to the NCAA' tournement but like I said before the season started - come CC tournement time I guarantee you the last team Ursinus will want to meet in the finals is F&M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on November 30, 2005, 05:28:03 pm
Swish, when I said they hadn't played a good 40 minutes yet, I didn't at all mean they didn't play hard for the whole game.  The problem is, they still had 16 turnovers, they were still outrebounded, and they were only 18 of 30 from the free throw line.  They won because they played hard, particularly on defense, and made their shots.  That's great, and they can win a lot of games that way, but until they take better care of the ball and really get after it on the glass, I just don't see how they can beat a team with the size that Ursinus has.  After watching F&M last night I know they can hang with anyone else in the conference, but Ursinus presents such a match-up problem that I just don't see it yet.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 30, 2005, 09:51:34 pm
Fritzdis, Swish, et. al. -

I agree that the Ursinus front line may cause match-up problems. However, my impression is that they are significantly slower than F&M.

Really, I am more worried about their all-american guard.  :(I am not sure who on the Dips can stay with him and limit his offensive production and assists to the big men!

Thoughts anyone? Feel free to respond. Regards to all. GO Dips!

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on November 30, 2005, 10:58:49 pm
diplomaniac,

I haven't actually seen Ursinus play this season, so maybe I'm giving their front line too much credit, but I was impressed by what I saw of them last year.  Sure, they're slower than Teschke (not sure about Hines, since he's not the swiftest big man I've ever seen), but they seemed to position themselves well to make up for it (remember this is just from what I saw last year).  Even if they don't score a lot, I think their rebounding will give F&M headaches.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on December 01, 2005, 03:43:03 pm
Ursinus beat Washington last night 82 - 73.  Shattuck continues to play well.  He had 18 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks , and a steal.  McGarvey added 13 points and 14 assists.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on December 01, 2005, 08:24:42 pm
Eric,

The guards from Ursinus (especially McGarvey) are outstanding. But we have good guards as well. My opinion is that F&M would have to play an almost flawless game to beat Ursinus. But it can be done.
Interestingly enough , the score of the Washington-Ursinus game last night was tied 44-44 at the half. I think that says something about both teams.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on December 01, 2005, 09:47:02 pm
Final-

F&M 69 - Lebanon Valley 55
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 01, 2005, 11:22:56 pm
Non-conference road win for F&M in Annville.  Dips improve to 2-0 in the new LVC gym after becoming first team to beat the Dutchmen in their new confines two seasons ago.

I was a bit shocked to see a Brad MacAlester-coached LVC team play such an undisciplined game.  I can't remember seeing the Valley play so poorly, especially at home.  The Dutchmen lack a go-to player like they've had so often in the past, making a comeback in this game unlikely - even as F&M left the door open by missing foul shots and making some poor decisions late in the game.

The new LVC gym is nice, but it's no Lynch.  The creaky old wood bleachers and tight quarters that helped make Lynch such a difficult place to play are now a distant memory.  That old gym won't be missed by many opposing teams, but I always enjoyed the electric environment it provided for such a terrific rivalry.

Lynch, by the way, is now a combination student coffee lounge/academic building.  It was surreal to walk in there after tonight's game and remember the great F&M-LVC games that took place where computer labs, offices, and coffee machines now exist.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on December 02, 2005, 09:52:01 am
That really was a tough place to play especially with Panko on the team.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 02, 2005, 06:03:36 pm
R. W. -

I agree the atmosphere and most of the games were electric. However, I don't miss being crammed into narrow bleachers at Lynch with no room for size twelve shoes or the stiffness for two days afterwards caused by sitting on those uncomfortable seats!  Sorry about that.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 02, 2005, 08:11:59 pm
Eric,

Sitting on uncomfortable seats and being crammed into narrow bleachers is what D-III basketball is all about!  Seriously, I see your point - but I like old gyms like Mayser and Lynch.  They provide a unique atmosphere you don't find anywhere else.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 03, 2005, 06:45:05 pm
Folks -

If I read the Centennial Conference website correctly and if it is accurate, there was a beig upset today: McDaniel 79 and Ursinus 77. Does anyone have any game details? Please advise via postings.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: beantown on December 03, 2005, 07:07:15 pm
That is true.  McDaniel one it at the busser on a shot from senior Co-Captain Mike Dipeiero.  Also the terror were missing senior co-captain Chris Rustland with an Injury.  The terror got within one with 30 seconds left on a 3-pointer from 30 feet out from Joe Hunter, and then the Ursinus player missed the one and one free-throw which the Terror rebounded and Dipiero won it at the buzzer.  What a great 1st game at the Gill Center for Bob Flynn and his staff.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 05, 2005, 10:56:58 am
Folks -

Here is a link to an interesting article which appeared in this week's Lancaster Sunday News. The focus of the article is a local Lancaster athlete. However, there is substantial coverage of Dennis Stanton as well. Seems like he is in pretty good company among the three americans on that team.

http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/19034

Enjoy!. Regards to all.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on December 05, 2005, 04:10:24 pm
Check out the Centennial Conference website.  Some very interesting articles on Haverford College and the role of athletics.  Very surprising quote by a professor and graduated student athlete. 

Would never consider going to Haverford after reading that article.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 05, 2005, 04:38:35 pm
Amish:

If an academically rigorous venue such as Haverford can get a field hockey goalie because it needs one, just imagine the shenanigans and machinations at a "lesser" institution that just happens to need a rifle-arm quarterback or a 6-9 forward who can shoot and rebound (and I'm not talking just about the other Centennial colleges  ;)).

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on December 06, 2005, 09:03:10 am
Warren -

Any MAC schools in particular you are thinking of?

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 06, 2005, 09:15:17 am
Coach C:

You really think I'd name them here in public? Not only would I be "karmaed" into utter nothingness, my computer would melt from all the Flammenposten.  :P
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on December 06, 2005, 10:02:59 am
Do you think Ursinus is still the team to beat after winning a close game against Washington at home and then losing to McDaniel?  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on December 06, 2005, 11:50:36 am
Absolutely!!! I think the two things that game tells us is that there is not a big difference between the upper level teams and traditional lower tier teams. That means that on any given night... Also, it tells you Ursinus is beatable. They are still the team to beat but they're not Larry Bird's Celtics.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on December 06, 2005, 01:20:01 pm
WT -

I have given up posting based on potential karma issues.  If i worried about what i was saying, I would never post.

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 06, 2005, 04:17:08 pm
Coach C:

Note the  :P  in my post above .... Of course, the promiscuity of the Negative Karmites is to be ignored.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on December 06, 2005, 11:19:46 pm
Amazing stat of the night:
Dickinson shoots 3 for 16 FROM THE FREE THROW LINE.  AND WINS!  Going 8 for 15 from 3 point land certainly helped them overcome one of the worst nights from the free throw line you'll probably ever see.

Less than amazing stat of the night:
F&M shoots 21 of 64 (32.8%) from the field, their lowest field goal percentage since 1/14/02 (30.2% at Lebanon Valley) and their lowest home field goal percentage since an identical 21 for 64 night against Muhlenberg on 2/21/01.  They also only hit 3 of 20 (15%) three point attempts, their worst three point percentage since 2/1/03 (2 for 15, 12.5% at Washington College), and their worst home three point percentage since a 1 for 9 (11.1%) performace against Gettysburg on 1/13/01.

F&M got outhustled most of the first half.  It was, despite a higher shooting percentage (37%) than the second half (29.7%), one of the more pathetic halves of basketball F&M has played in quite a while.  On their 17 missed shots, they managed only 3 offensive rebounds, while Dickinson got 7 offensive rebounds on the same number of missed shots (including free throw misses).  Speaking of free throw misses, Dickinson's 1 for 9 performance from the line in the first half was the only thing that kept F&M close.  F&M's offense was completely out of sync, while the defense did very little to disrupt Dickinson's offense.

F&M showed more intensity in the second half, particularly in the rebounding department (13 offensive rebounds on 29 missed shots), but they couldn't buy a shot.  The deficit and Dickinson's quick defense may have had the shooters rattled, but it just seemed like nothing would go down.  Brandon Smith and Adam Leonard combined to go 0 for 13 from the field (0 for 7 from deep) in the second half.  That they were able, in the face of their horrendous shooting, to eventually close the gap and make the game competitive is about the only encouraging thing to come from the loss.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: sunny on December 07, 2005, 01:13:49 am
Amazing stat of the night:
Dickinson shoots 3 for 16 FROM THE FREE THROW LINE.  AND WINS!  Going 8 for 15 from 3 point land certainly helped them overcome one of the worst nights from the free throw line you'll probably ever see.

As amazing as that stat is - and it may have been the stat of that game - I don't think it's the stat of the night in the conference ...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 07, 2005, 02:35:06 am
No, probably not. Although I'll put that stat on the front page, there's another one already there that trumps it, in my mind.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on December 10, 2005, 06:34:12 pm
Cant believe F&M lost again to Haverford 74-70 in OT.  Anyone see the game to know what the heck happened
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 10, 2005, 07:36:46 pm
Wasn't there, but the box score has 26 turnovers for the Dips.  Not going to beat many teams at any level playing like that.  I'm not sure if the problem is inexperience, or if F&M just doesn't have the talent to win this year.  It's a legitimate question at this point.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 10, 2005, 07:37:00 pm
No Schadenfreude from this LVC fan (most of the time, I'm too old for such) ... but what on earth is going on with the Dips?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: FordFan on December 10, 2005, 11:46:44 pm
To the F & M fans who are wondering what the HECK happened tonight against Haverford.  Haverford won the game because they are better than F & M.  They have a young team, but a very experienced backcourt led by point guard John Elefterakis.  They are only getting better, especially with the freshmen beginning to contribute and playing significant minutes. (Ben McDowell, Dave Nowacki and Greg Rosnick)  After getting down early,  17 points, Haverford went on a monster run, and really showed a lot of toughness.  F & M is overrated this year and so is  Brandon Smith.  He is out of shape and is certainly not an all-american, especially with the defense that he plays.  Outerbridge is solid, but Elefterakis is clearly the better player, and took advantage of him in the second half.  With the game on the line, Outerbridge had the ball taken from him by Elefterakis.  The conference is definitely up for grabs this year, but don't count Haverford out.  They have one of the toughest point guards in the country and an inexperienced, but highly capable, cast of talented players.  This should be an interesting year, but I think that Haverford deserves some credit after this win against an obviously down, but still very solid and good F & M team.       
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on December 11, 2005, 06:02:39 am
Listen, I'm the first to say (as you can see by reading my previous posts) that F&M has problems this year, but to say Haverford is better than F&M because Haverford won an OVERTIME game AT HOME is premature.  Haverford got demolished at Gettysburg, where F&M managed to pull out a win.  Two of Haverford's three wins so far are at home (and the third is a neutral site win), and this is a team that was 8-1 at home in conference play last year but 4-5 on the road.

You want to talk about youth?  F&M starts 2 sophomores, their first big man off the bench is a sophomore transfer, and 2 of the 3 guards they regularly bring off the bench are sophomores.  That leaves a lot of room for improvement through experience.

As for Brandon Smith, I believe that he is trying too hard to carry this team.  He tries to play all-out every minute of every game, and when he can't harness his energy, it leads to poor decisions from trying too hard to make something happen.  The problem for him is finding a way to limit that recklessness without taking away the relentless effort that makes him such a good player.  My hope is that the more he trusts in his teammates, the better his decision making will get.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on December 11, 2005, 10:09:16 am
Fordfan-

Fritzdis did a nice job responding to your post. He neglected to talk about your comments about Elefterakis and Outerbridge. Right now there is only one point guard in the CC better than Outerbridge and that is McGarvey. One play doesn't make a whole season (at least not this time of year). Elefterakis scored "0" points in the first half. Outerbridge completely shut him down. Finally after throwing up ten three's, three of them went in. That's 30% which is not only horrible but is what Elefterakis is shooting for the season. Outerbridge scored more points (17 vs.14), shot 50% from behind the arc and stole the ball from Elefterakis two or three times. There's a long way to go in this season so I wouldn't get too excited about the Fords just yet. And by the way, I guarantee F&M will be ahead of Haverford in the standings at the end of the season - when it counts.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: FordFan on December 11, 2005, 01:22:21 pm
Do you really believe that Outerbridge is a better point guard than Elefterakis?  Are you making that judgement based solely on statistics?  Elefterakis will soon be second all-time in the Centennial Conference in assists.  Not to mention that Elefterakis' role at Haverford is far different than Outerbridge's role at F & M.  It's not hard to shoot 40% when you get wide open threes.  If you watched Elefterakis on a consistent basis, I think you'd find that defenses do not sag off of him, or leave him open ever, and so he is often forced to create his own shot. 
You made a good point that Outerbridge had a good first half and that Elefterakis had a good second half.  To be honest, I like a point guard who has better second halves, can step it up when it counts, and can lead his team to victory, rather than a point guard who has a good first half, but then gets shut down in the second half.  I don't want to turn this into a negative debate when in fact we have two good point guards.  I was just trying to say that Elefterakis outplayed Outerbridge when it counted and that led to a win for the Fords.  It is still very early to determine how the standings will turn out, but don't count Haverford out.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on December 11, 2005, 01:51:49 pm
When you say teams never sag on Elefterakis that is what you call good defense..That is how Outerbridge shut him down in the first half. Outerbridge on the other hand played a very consistent game scoring 8 points in the first and 7 points in the second half. And as far as you liking a player who comes through when it counts- go back to last March to the CC semi-final game between Haverford and F&M..There are no more do or die games than that. You win and you keep playing-you lose and you go home. Outerbridge held Elefterakis to 7 points for the whole game and get this "0" points in the second half. When it really counted. F&M 73 - Haverford.71. I didn't want to get into this but you were the one who said Elefterakis is "clearly" better than Outerbridge. They are both very good players but  I would bet if given the choice between the two most coaches in the league would pick Outerbridge without giving it a second thought.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: FordFan on December 11, 2005, 02:31:11 pm
If all of the coaches would pick Outerbridge, how come Elefterakis was picked by the COACHES second team all centennial conference last year?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on December 11, 2005, 02:43:44 pm
There was no way F&M was going to get more than three players on the all-CC teams. That only happens when a team is so dominant that they only lose a few games during the season. As it turned out the three players that made it for F&M were all outstanding players with two being seniors and one being a junior. Outerbridge was only a sophmore. I don't think Elefterakis made the all-CC team as a sophmore, did he?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on December 11, 2005, 06:08:35 pm
Regardless of whether or not it's hard to shoot 40% when you're taking wide open 3s, Outerbridge is currently 22 for 45, which is 48.9%, and that ain't easy.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 11, 2005, 06:19:35 pm
R. W., Swish, Frtizdis, & Warren -

I did make it to see the Haverford game on Saturday - only my second game of the season. Some general comments: I think the talent is there for the Dips. However, they are still fairly inexperienced and are still learning to play as a unit. Another concern is that they don't yet maintain their intensity for a full forty minutes - they still haven't played a complete game yet. They have a tendancy to let up we they get large leads. Also youthful teams are more likely to lose road games.

The offense at time appears to be stagnant - too many players without the ball standing still! You have to want the ball and go get it. While I like Logan's shot, I am also not sure that Outerbridge will ever be a floor general like Janetta, Markey, etc. At key times, no one seems to want to take a shot. I agree with the earlier observations about turnovers - 20+/game is not true Diplomat basketball.

Particular attention needs to be given to playing tight defense throughout the entire contest. If the team does this, other good things will follow. In other words, defense should be first and foremost.

The team's overall three-point shooting (other than Logan) is really inconsistent. This leads to an over-reliance on the inside game. Very few points have been made off of the drive or on 12' to 15' pull-up jumpers. Although lack of consistent rebounding limits it, the team doesn't seem to run very much. I think they have the depth and speed to do so. There is also a very heavy reliance on Brandon Smith and when opponents shut him down, the enitre offense suffers. More attention must be given to foul-shooting.

Specifically, Outerbridge must take much better care of the ball. Tescke needs to shoot more and be more prepared to deal with the physical game - spend some time in the weight room. I really expected big things from Adam Leonard this year and I am somewhat disappointed so far. Perhaps, his leg injury is affecting him more than we know. I also see several fingers on the right hand are taped together. That will certainly hamper shooting! Brandon Smith needs to not press as much and let the game come to him more. As a transfer, Yost needs to continue to learn the system - particularly on the defensive end. Kudos to McCaffey for his hustle and defensive effort.

Needs: Fewer Turnovers, Better Foul-Shooting, More Movement Without the Ball, Rebounding, Forty Minutes of CONCENTRATION and INTENSITY, Less Reliance on Smith, More Offensive Contributions from the Bench.

Any Thoughts? Regards to all.

Eric



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 11, 2005, 06:28:19 pm
Folks -

I was very impressed with Haverford's new athletic center and arena! It is a fry cry from the old one - much better lighting, more comfortable bleacher seats, a better shooting background, and better HVAC. Congrats on money well-spent.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 11, 2005, 07:08:26 pm
R. W., Swish, Fritzdis, & Warren -

Here is one other item that I left out of my earlier post - quickness. I think that many Diplomats are faster than their opponents and have a quick first step. In my mind, they should utilize it more and drive or slash to the hoop more often. Other than Smith and Outerbridge who have consistently showed their quickness, this group would include Teschke, Leonard, Yost, and McCaffrey. I am still not sure about Hines' foot speed.

This also could be one of those years when the Centennial Conference is moe balanced from top to bottom!

Regards,

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on December 12, 2005, 09:19:16 am
Question for FordFan -

Did Bass graduate last year?  I thought this would be his Senior season.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: FordFan on December 12, 2005, 12:21:32 pm
Bass did not graduate, he is still a senior at the college.  He wanted to play intramural volleyball while in the basketball season and the coaches as well as the team did not think this was an appropriate amount of dedication to the team and as a result, they parted ways.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on December 12, 2005, 04:13:29 pm
that is a very interesting move. Dont see that everyday
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 12, 2005, 05:17:51 pm
Today's major announcement of the new conference involving current CAC, MAC, and Skyline institutions will give a new look to the Mid-Atlantic Region.  The MAC and CAC will have to find new members and/or undergo restructuring with implications for NCAA automatic qualifiers and the like.  It appears that the Centennial's stability is the only sure thing in this region at the moment.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on December 12, 2005, 06:52:42 pm
Here's a look at some F&M history - to put things in a little perspective I give you the year, overall record, and starters by class.

1995-96 (29-3) 3sr.;1jr.;1soph.

1996-97 (11-13) 2sr.;2jr.;1fr.

1997-98 (14-11) 2sr.;1jr.;1soph.;1fr.

1998-99 (22-5) 1sr.;2jr.;1soph.;1fr. (the freshman was Alex Kraft)

1999-00 (25-7) 3sr.;2soph.

2000-01 (18-7) 2jr.;1soph.;2fr. (this team included Duran Searles,Steve Juskin, Cas Thomas and Alex Kraft- each became an all-american before their carreer was over)

2001-02 (24-5) 2sr.;1jr.;2soph. (this is the same team as the previous year)

2002-03 (25-5) 2sr.;3jr.

2003-04 (26-4) 3sr.;1jr.;1soph.

2004-05 (23-7) 2sr.;1jr.;2soph.

2005-06 (5-3) 1sr.;2jr.;2soph.

Besides this season there has been only one year in the last ten when F&M started only one senior. That other year they had Alex Kraft who was a freshman but I'm sure didn't play like one.

We are a young team. We will get better as the season progresses and should have a very good team next year. We have two very tough games coming up, assuming we beat Mitchell. Alvernia is 5-1 (losing only to Lafayette) and Lincoln who hammered Randolph-Macon and beat two very good D2 teams. Even if we lose those two games I still wouldn't panick.. But I think we will win at least one. Keep the faith. Like I've said it's a long season.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on December 15, 2005, 11:01:52 am
Intramural volleyball?  See, now that is why so many coaches have drinking problems.

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Jin on December 19, 2005, 09:52:23 pm
Hello,

I am relatively new to this, as I am just moved to America from Korea. However, as a fan of Haverford basketball, I wood just like to say, John Elefterakis is very good,  and Dave Nowacki is very good basketball player. Bucknell very is talented as well.  They beat Haverford by a lott tonight. But that is OK. John Eleftrtakis and Michael Mucci are very good.

-Jin

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on December 20, 2005, 01:43:13 am
Jin -

Yes - Coach Mucci does a great job with what he has at Haverford.  He is a classy guy running a classy program.

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on December 20, 2005, 09:23:45 am
F&M plays Alvernia tonight.  That should be a great game.  Has anyone had a chance to see Alvernia play this year?  Judging from their record, they are good but I don't know too much about their players.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on December 21, 2005, 09:34:15 am
Dips beat Alvernia last night in a very sloppy game.  Everyone seemed out of sync (first game back from finals).  Big win coming off of a two game losing streak but not going to get it done.  Apparently Alvernia was missing one of its best players.  Any truth to that?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 21, 2005, 09:49:19 am
F&M rode a strong second half from Smith to beat Alvernia.  The Dips cut down on turnovers that have plagued them recently but still suffer from defensive lapses and poor shot selection.

Hines seems to be improving in the middle, at least offensively.  Teschke has lost his starting job.  He played only eight minutes, all in the first half.

I've never seen Elefterakis play (and therefore can't contribute to the earlier debate) but Outerbridge could certainly make better decisions late in games.  He's a good scorer, no question.  But he's not the type of floor general I think he could be.  He doesn't take command of the game when things are out of sync - like they were last night.  Maybe he will develop into a better leader on the floor, and maybe I'm being too hard because F&M has had a string of superb point guards.  But he's not there yet.

Alvernia didn't look like a team that gave Lafayette fits a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on December 22, 2005, 12:05:35 am
I def. agree that F&M has had some exceptional PG's. and Outerbridge isnt there yet but I dont think you can overlook the fact that he has been the most consistent player F&M has had this year. Smith gets a lot of the publicity but has had a few bad games and has forced many shots as well as been in foul trouble a few times this year (probably trying to hard) but Outerbridge overall (O and D) has been the most consistent, while also playing the most minutes.

Happy Holidays to everyone.  Looking forward to after the New Year when the CC is in full stride.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 22, 2005, 09:01:20 am
Since he did not start the Alvernia game, Teschke apparently must be in GRob's "doghouse". Anyone know why? Please advise. Thanks. Happy Holidays to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on December 22, 2005, 10:02:58 am
Eric,
I'm don't think Teshke is in Grob's doghouse. I think at this point Grob is just trying to shake things up to see if a different  mix of players would work better .

My impression of the game.While I think the game was ugly, I think there were several positives. We kept the turn-overs down to 13 (good compared to other games) and that was against a very athletic team that pressed a good part of the second half. Smith didn't try to force too much-he let the game come to him- he played very well. Leonard also showed he can be a contributor on offense. We'll need that if we expect to go anywhere. Outerbridge was a little off tonight but came up big with free-throws when it counted. Also, I wouldn't get on him too much about his ability as a PG-remember he played a significant roll his freshman year in helping F&M get to the "Elite Eight" and last year as the regular starter. Hines played exceptional. He is a tough kid and showed it in this game. I think he has the most upside of anyone on the team. He just needs to develope a little better touch around the basket and learn to kick it out to the perimeter for an open three when the defense colapses on him and we are going to be tough to beat.

Lastly, I think the game was ugly because the refs never took control. I never complain about the refs but they were horrible for both teams. A couple of times two refs wanted to make opposite calls. They called liitle fouls then let obvious fouls slide. I think that is a big reason the game looked sloppy.

Should be interesting if we meet Lincoln next week. It will be our first game against a ranked team. I'm anxious to see how we do.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 22, 2005, 10:44:59 am
Amish Allstar, swish-

Outerbridge has been a consistent player for F&M, but my point was more about whether he's "quarterbacking" the team he way I think he can.  Nobody can deny his ability to score, play defense, and hit big foul shots, but he doesn't take control of the game and assert himself the way a point guard of his ability should.  Sometimes I get the feeling he's waiting for somebody else to make a decision, but that's his job.

Swish, the reason I'm looking for such big things from Outerbridge is because of his potential.  I was impressed with his play off the bench during the Elite Eight run in '04, and a few times last year as a starter.  I believe Outerbridge is the key to how well the Dips gel after the new year.


Eric-

Some might say Teschke was playing out of position at the 4.  Since the Dips don't have many options in the post, I'm sure Robinson will find the right role for him after experimenting with different combinations.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on December 22, 2005, 11:03:12 am
R.W.

After reading your initial post and the most recent I completely understand what you are saying.  I think he can and will do a better job as everyone becomes more comfortable in their roles.  As it has been said, this is a young team that is still trying to find itself.  I think Obrige maybe looking to Smith a little bit more then last year, where they had multiple options, to carry the team.  i think as the season progress Obridge will learn/understand that he is the second option (as of now) as far as scoring and will do a better job of playing like it. 

I think if Hines keeps developing he will be a very solid player.  Think him and tescke could both benefit from the weight room though and add more to their frame.

Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on December 22, 2005, 02:23:41 pm
swish:

I am also looking forward to a potential game between Lincoln and F&M.  Last year Lincoln missed the NCAA's due to two losses to NJCU.  Lincoln had to settle for an ECAC bid and play the top ranked Diplomats in Lancaster and the loss ended their season.  I'm hoping Coach Yuille has the Lions ready for their return to F&M, and hopefully the outcome will be different this year for Lincoln.


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on December 30, 2005, 11:30:31 pm
...PROGRAMMING NOTE...

The newly established Centennial Conference Basketball Network (CCBN) broadcast Tuesday's night's game between Trinity College and Ursinus College live at www.broadcastmonsters.com.  The link will be available at that site on game day.

Pregame coverage begins at 7:15 PM with tip-off at 7:30 PM.  If you can't make the trip to Collegeville, please tune us in for the fun.

Programming on BroadcastMonsters.com requires Windows Media Player which is available for free download here (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/default.asp).

Thanks and Happy New Year!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 03, 2006, 12:27:20 pm
Some interesting CC tilts tonight. I will be interested to see how Ursinus does in Collegeville against Trinity (CT) in the aftermath of their recent failed upset attempt at York.
F&M tackles highly regarded Lincoln tonight. Looking at common scores & seeing both teams play I would make the Lions a 6-7 point favorite to get their 1st win over Dips since the Korean War. F&M is hard for me to understand this year with results like a horrible loss against less than ordinary Dickinson but also a nice inter-conference win over PAC top-dog & highly respected Alvernia.
I can't be in Lancaster until the Saturday Ursinus showdown & am a bit disappointed that the game @ F&M tonight isn't being broadcast on the net (at least UC-Trinity is).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 03, 2006, 06:58:45 pm
Trinity (Conn.) was delayed getting to Ursinus, so airtime is now 7:40, tipoff at 7:55.

http://www.broadcastmonsters.com
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on January 04, 2006, 09:40:16 am
Trinity is a very good basketball team.  Ursinus could have won the game but they had a few costly turnovers at the end.  I would like to Ursinus take some better shots rather than rely on three pointers.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 04, 2006, 11:43:04 am
An amazing performance by Lincoln last night in Mayser Gym.  How did these guys lose three games?  Myrick and Wylie lived up to their billing as a top-notch backcourt as the Lions used a press to help cause 27 F&M turnovers.  Lincoln is a very well coached team that will go deep in NCAAs if they play like that in March.

Whenever F&M loses at home, you'd usually call it an upset, but this wasn't.  Lincoln was on another level.  Late in the second half, I think many F&M fans stopped worrying about the score and simply appreciated Lincoln's array of high-flying dunks and crisp passes.  People who opted to stay home and watch the Orange Bowl may have seen a good football game, but they missed seeing an excellent D-III basketball team in Lincoln.

F&M got another high-scoring game from Smith (33 points).

The Intell story:
http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/19714
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on January 04, 2006, 03:02:46 pm
After reading some of the quotes from the Lincoln coach and players, I'm a little less disappointed by F&M's showing.  It sounds like Lincoln considered this game a bit of a milestone game for their program.  I'm sure the F&M players knew this was a big game, going against a ranked team, but when a team as talented as Lincoln finds some extra motivation like they may have had yesterday, they're going to be real tough to deal with.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on January 05, 2006, 09:39:53 am
Wasnt at the game but heard some people say that this was one of the most athletic teams they have seen play @ Mayser.  Sounds like the just caused some matchup problems for F&M. 

Agree with yo Fritz, just read the article and it does seems like a milestone for the program.  Players and caoches very well quoted and seem like a solid focused group of young men.

Big game in Mayser this weekend. CC games back in action.  Dips need this one
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on January 05, 2006, 11:06:43 am
I think the quoate form Lincoln's coach is a great one.  Is this a one game anomaly, or is this a sign of things to come in both programs?

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on January 05, 2006, 12:53:51 pm
Dont know much about the Lincoln program except that they have some exceptional athletes.

From an F&M standpoint, I do not believe it is a path in that direction.  I think the Lincoln squad is unlike ANY in the Centennial and maybe even in D3 (being honest I dont see teams outside the CC and who F&M plays), in that they combine athletes with size and speed into one complete package.  Lincoln is simply the better team this year and I see them moving up in the rankings.  I think we need the CC to play out this year to determine the road the F&M's program is taking.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on January 05, 2006, 01:35:14 pm
Coach C & Amish Allstar:

I think Lincoln's Coach Yuille quote about the programs was interesting.  With that said, Lincoln has made dramatic strides in improving their Basketball program. 

Coach Byars, the long time Lincoln Basketball coach at Lincoln was not the person for the job.  Byars had a 7'2' freshman named Bunch who led the nation in block shots his freshman year (2004), and the team didn't really do anything.  Bunch transferred after his Freshman year to Monmouth (NJ) University, a D1 school.  Byars combined record in his last two years (2003-2004) was 17-32. 

Coach Yuille, a Lincoln Alumnus has a two year record (2005-2006) and "counting" of 34-10.  Additionally, Coach Yuille being a Philadelphia native (Overbrook High) knows the talent in Philadelphia and the surrounding areas.  I also think Coach Yuille's disciplined approach to the games and his conditioning regiment has the Lions "pointed in the right direction for now and the future.

As an old Track man, I hope Lincoln's Track success (16 NCAA Championships) has contributed to the current success of the Basketball team, and it will have a domino affect on all athletic programs at Lincoln.




Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on January 05, 2006, 04:10:27 pm
njlincolnlion:

Where exactly is Lincoln located? Do you attend their games regularly?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 05, 2006, 04:59:37 pm
I would say one thing in Byars' defense -- between the warped floor debacle and the lack of a true sports information department over the past few years, nobody wanted to play at Lincoln because you couldn't guarantee you'd get a box score. That has an impact when you have to play most of your games on the road.

The floor and sports information office have been rectified and that can only help, plus the AD has one of his hand-picked guys running the team now. I expect the department is a more cohesive unit these days.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 05, 2006, 05:48:30 pm
Amish Allstar -

Lincoln University is located "in the middle of nowhere"! Technically, its location is in the Village Of Forrestville in the mushroom country of Southern Chester County in Southeast Pennsylvania. It is close to such small towns as Avondale, Jennersville, Nottingham, Kennett Square, West Grove, Oxford, and (my personal favorite) Toughkenamon! The easiest way to get there from Mayser Center is to take Route 30 east to Route 896 south until just after you cross over U. S. Route 1.

Hope this information helps. Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on January 05, 2006, 09:56:58 pm
Amish Allstar:

Diplomanic1 is correct on his location of Lincoln, except "technically", Lincoln University is located in Lincoln University, PA 19352.  The University founded in 1854 is off Route 1 and 896.  I agree with Diplomaniac1, that my alma mater is isolated, but you should have seen how remote it was when my parents dropped me off some 30 years ago.  Coming from Bergen County , NJ, a suburb of New York City, it was a real culture shock for me, but I survived and enjoyed my four years there.  I have only attended Lincoln's games when they are in the New York metro area over the last three years.

Pat, you are correct about the past neglect of the gymnasium, that has been resolved due to a myriad of issues, not withstanding an unsympathetic administration.  The AD Cyrus Jones, who is also the head Track & Field Coach, and Rob Knox (SID) are doing a mavelous job.  It also helps that the Coach Yuille (the Basketball Coach) and Knox are Lincoln Alumns, so there is the "added" pride factor for developing a successful program.  Finally, with Lincoln's President, Dr. Ivory Nelson suceeding Bridgewater's (VA) president as the President of the NCAA DIII Advisory Council, we finally have the support of the Administration.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on January 06, 2006, 08:45:34 am
I do have to say that it is located in a simply beautiful area, though, yeah, there is not much there now except for the beauty.  Houses are inching claoser every year!!!

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on January 06, 2006, 09:16:28 am
Thanks for the information.  i was trying to figure out the locatio but kept reading Lincoln University, PA. Very confusing but I have the area where you are talking about.  Used 896 many trips to get to Dware
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on January 06, 2006, 10:59:49 am
God, how can you let Philly Bible be this bad, as they drop one to previously winless Swat?

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on January 10, 2006, 08:44:38 am
Does anyone know if the F&M-Washington game this Thursday will be broadcast on CCBN?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on January 11, 2006, 09:46:48 am
The Franklin & Marshall-Washington men's game will be aired on CCBN beginning approximately 7:45 on Thursday.  Check the "Gameday" link on the Centennial website for more information.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on January 12, 2006, 10:20:40 am
Commish-any word yet on wether the F&M game will be on the air tonight?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2006, 10:49:23 am
Isn't that what the message above yours specifically addresses?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on January 12, 2006, 04:46:30 pm
When I posted that last post the Centennial Website had the game being on CCBN with the word "tentative" beneath it. That was approximately 10:00am today. the Commish was saying the broadcast was on. Gameday on the CC website said it was tentative. I was looking for clarification.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 13, 2006, 12:35:38 am
The race to the playoffs continues this Saturday on the Centennial Conference Basketball Network as 10 teams fight for five tournament spots.

This Saturday Muhlenberg (7-6, 3-4), which sits one game out of the final playoff spot, hosts the Johns Hopkins Blue Jays (10-3, 6-1) at 2 PM.  Pregame coverage begins on  http://www.broadcastmonsters.com/ at 1:50 PM.

Then stay tuned for an interesting women's match-up between first place JHU and the 11-1 Mules.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: saratoga on January 14, 2006, 06:35:34 pm
Is the F&M Swat score correct??? If so, what's going on in Robinsonville? That would have to rank right up there as one of the Dips worst conference losses in quite some time.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 14, 2006, 07:39:18 pm
saratoga-

Your eyes aren't deceiving you.  Most people knew early on that F&M would struggle in comparison to recent years, but a tank job of this magnitude is truly surprising.

Traditionally successful programs like the Dips are entitled to go through transition years every so often.  I don't think, however, that a 31-point loss to 2-12 Swat can be chalked up to that line of reasoning.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on January 15, 2006, 02:34:09 am
Are there any explanations?  Varsity was being disciplined?  Snow forced fans to don F&M uniforms?  WHAT THE HECK???

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: saratoga on January 15, 2006, 05:26:48 pm
Thanks, R.W. It will be interesting to see how the Dips react to that type of serious pounding the rest of the season. Regroup or retreat??? One thing is for sure, some teams will not fear playing F&M right now & some others may actually be looking forward to the opportunity.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on January 15, 2006, 07:25:06 pm
RW -

Transition year?  It's been 30 friggin years years since a loss to Swat.  How many transition years have been in that time span where the Dips still managed not to trip on the doormat?

We HAVE to be mission something!

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 15, 2006, 08:03:58 pm
I don't think, however, that a 31-point loss to 2-12 Swat can be chalked up to that line of reasoning.

C-

If you read my post more carefully, you'd notice I said the loss could NOT be chalked up to this being a transition year.  The Dips don't have many "down years", and when they do, they still manage to beat the Swats of the world.  So even though this isn't a typical 20+ win F&M team, it's a shocker.  F&M has completely collapsed since the Lincoln game, and lots of people would like to know why.

Two people who certainly don't mind seeing F&M struggle are Bill Nelson and Kevin Small.  Hopkins/Ursinus should make for an exciting 2-horse race in the CC.

Any thoughts from swish or fritz on the situation?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on January 16, 2006, 04:40:41 am
Any thoughts from swish or fritz on the situation?
Unfortunately (well, maybe fortunately), I haven't seen any of the last 3 games, so I can't begin to understand what has happened to F&M.  They looked pretty good against Ursinus.  What has caused them to just collapse like this is beyond me.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 16, 2006, 10:19:17 am
I have also not seen the F&M games since the Ursinus loss. Although I was not as impressed with the Dips in that tilt as Fritz. Ursinius looked much better in addition to poor Dip 3-point shooting & wretched Foul shooting. The Bears would have won easily if not for some late 3 point misses & a rash of a late mostly unforced turnovers that almost let F&M get back into the game.
I can't remember a worse conference loss since the late 70's than this one to SWAT. The only similar margin results came from riled up good Princeton teams. Or to FF squads Hope & Illinois Wesleyan in '96.
I followed the team in 84-85 that only won 8 games & they never seemed to give up losing many games but exhibiting great effort & in close heartbreaking games, plus I don't recall any loss by more than 20 or so.
The post Mehaffey/Henry FF remnants of 96-97 have some analogy to this years team. They went 11-13 after getting off to a decent start. That team also had one upperclassman (Josh Fabian) who had to shoulder most of the scoring load often scoring between 25-40 while the rest of the team couldn't be counted on (sound familiar to anyone whose seen Brandon Smith try to win games this season). There is at least one startling difference. The 96-97 team had an excellent frosh class including Maiatico, Ritacco & Sadowski all key players that eventually almost won the national title in 2000. This years frosh class is unfortunate to say the least.
Unless Robinson can start recruiting better players again F&M will have trouble even making the CC playoffs for a long time. This years sudden collapse may relate at least partly to injuries. Otherwise I can't see why the players like Outerbridge (was wearing a wrap on his shooting wrist vs Ursinius) & Leonard (knee) are playing less & ineffective when they try. Chasen looks to be out indefinately with what looks like a cast + Ortho boot as he looked OK last year at times. As an alum & long term follower this is as down about the program as I have ever felt.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on January 16, 2006, 02:35:11 pm
Do any of the oldtimers (mrmxyztplk) know the reason why players like Sadowski and Keliher (both good players from what I hear)left the program after a year or two?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 16, 2006, 03:10:48 pm
swish-

From what I remember, Kelliher had a family to attend to, and didn't have time for basketball after his sophomore year.  It's too bad he couldn't play all four years.  Sadowski took a year off (don't know exactly why) but came back to play his junior and senior seasons.  Without him, there's no way F&M would have made the 2000 Final Four.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 16, 2006, 06:41:16 pm
Swish, R. W. McN's explanation of the Kelliher situation is generally correct & I see no reason to get any more specific about the personal concerns that apparently led him to leave the team after one outstanding season. It is a shame he never played college ball after that. If F&M had him during the relatively lean 96-97 & 97-98 seasons perhaps they may have had more success then. He was so quick, great on defense & got steals as spectacularly as anyone since the greats Al Taylor '83 or Donny Marsh '79.
I heard suggestions at the time that Sadowski may have taken a year off to concentrate on his school work although there could have been other factors too. In any case I concur that without him they wouldn't have made the FF in '00, his superb effort against CUA in the Patterson air hanger gym along with Kraft's heroics resulted in extending a road upset string that never seemed to end until the last second basket from the Calvin PG edged the Dips in Salem.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 20, 2006, 01:10:40 am
This week on the Centennial Conference Basketball Network...

Two teams on the brink of the Conference Playoffs battle for the fifth and final playoff spot as the McDaniel Green Terror take on the Gettysburg Bullets.

Can the Green Terror sweep the Bullets and gain a critical head-to-head advantage?  Or will Gettysburg get the leg up for that last spot?

Pregame starts at 1:50 with tip-off at 2 PM on www.bcmonsters.com.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on January 22, 2006, 02:21:35 pm
Congratulations on a game well played. Haverford is not a juggernaut (sp?) but holding any team to 38 points is a great feat. Take it one game at a time and even with a couple more losses F&M might make it to the CC play-offs.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on January 23, 2006, 09:14:54 am
Ugh.  38.  In a men's game.  Not pretty.

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 23, 2006, 04:31:34 pm
Where are the Ursinus and Hopkins fans?  This could be one of the best seasons the fans in Collegeville have seen in a while (at least as good as '03).

The interesting race will be for seeds 3-5.  Haverford looked awful on Saturday.  After all the talk about Elefterakis earlier in the season, he was totally taken out of his game by F&M's defense.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 23, 2006, 07:48:47 pm
Hopkins' fans???
There weren't even 50 Hopkins' fans at their home game against F&M.
The gym was dead, and it was a close game.
Embarrassing for a first place team.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 23, 2006, 11:32:55 pm
I've always wondered why Hopkins struggles to fill that small gym.  Nelson brings in talent year after year, and his teams are often in the thick of things.  It's a great place to watch a game.  Maybe all the focus is on lacrosse in Baltimore?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 24, 2006, 04:55:56 am
I think the focus is on Baltimore in Baltimore. Similarly, Catholic, in a big city, doesn't draw very well (though it draws better than JHU).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on January 24, 2006, 09:52:59 am
It's a problem in most big cities.  No one in NYC, Philly, DC, Baltimore or the like draws very well.  When you get out in the sticks, teams tend to draw better becasue, well, what else is there to do?

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 24, 2006, 10:06:20 am
When you get out in the sticks ....

C

"Out in the sticks"? I've not heard that expression since my dad died in 1961 ....  :o
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on January 24, 2006, 11:37:09 am
I guess I am the only Ursinus fan and alumni on the board.  It is nice to see that they are having a successful year.  Hopefully they can keep winning and possibly take first in the Centennial Conference.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: sunny on January 24, 2006, 07:23:16 pm
I think the focus is on Baltimore in Baltimore. Similarly, Catholic, in a big city, doesn't draw very well (though it draws better than JHU).

That's part of it, Pat, especially for the locals. I think the larger problem with fan support from the student body and college community is that lacrosse overshadows everything.  They aren't just D-I - they are scholarship in D-I and one of the most prominent programs in the country.  The Hopkins lax men averaged 4,359 in attendance at home last season. 

While having that program around does a lot of good for the school's other sports (for example, a Division I caliber support staff), it also makes the other sports at Hopkins seem like small potatoes in the eyes of many at the school, which is a shame, since they have some very good Division III programs. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bluejays on January 25, 2006, 01:06:20 am
JHU is without a doubt the best all around athletics program in the conference. Lacrosse does overshadow most at hopkins though. Another factor is that school is not back in session until January 30th and that is normal for it to be so late so the little student support there is was not even there. Lastly, let's just say the area surrounding Hopkins is very "urban". Besides there being so much more to do in the city, demographically the area right around the university just isn't going to go root for the JHU basketball team.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on January 26, 2006, 11:44:15 am
The centennial conference seems so wide open this year.  It will be interesting to see who makes the playoffs.  Ursinus is on a seven game win streak but they have been winning by very close margins.  They beat Hopkins by 3, Swarthmore by 5, F&M by 6, and Haverford by 1.  These scores are too close for comfort.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 26, 2006, 12:22:44 pm
And Hopkins, the CC's highest-scoring team entering last night, puts up a whopping 41 points at the Battlefield.  You're right - it's wide open.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on January 26, 2006, 11:31:55 pm
Don't look now, but guess who's climbing back into the race for the Centennial Conference playoffs?

Okay, you can go ahead and look.  It's Franklin & Marshall who now sits just one game out of the last playoff spot.  A win on Saturday would be huge, but the Ursinus College Bears are on a roll and focused on hosting the tournament in Collegeville.

If you can't make the trip to Helffrich Hall, please tune into the Centennial Conference Basketball Network broadcast on www.bcmonsters.com.  Pregame begins at 2:50 PM with tip-off scheduled for 3 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 27, 2006, 01:52:48 pm
Ursinus has been a difficult place for F&M to win, especially since Dennis Stanton canned a prayer from 40 feet in the 2003 CC championship to crush the Dips' hopes of an NCAA bid.

It's going to take a monumental defensive effort for F&M to win tomorrow.  In each of F&M's last three trips to Collegeville - ever since McGarvey has been running the show - the Dips have given up at least 91 points:

2003 (CC title game):  Ursinus 96, F&M 88 (OT)
2004:  Ursinus 104, F&M 92 (Stanton 55 points)
2005:  Ursinus 91, F&M 82

Will the trend continue, or will the Dips continue to play solid defense like they have the past 2 games?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 28, 2006, 04:55:16 pm
Don't look now, but guess who's climbing back into the race for the Centennial Conference playoffs?


Ursinus 75, F&M 59. Did the Dips today climb out of the race for the Centennial Conference playoffs?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Jin on January 28, 2006, 07:21:22 pm
I went to Haverford tonight to watch game against Mcdaniel. They were good. It was a good game. Haverford won and looked very good. Dave Nowacki is a good player. John Elefterakis is a good shooter. It was a very good game. It pleased me watch it. Haverford should win conference. They are good at basketball. I look foward to my next Haverford basketball basketball game. They are good and fun watching. Coach Mucci should be president. I like him. His suit was good and his plays were good too. Go Haverford! Let us win Haverford! Thank you all.

-Jin
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 28, 2006, 08:28:29 pm
Ursinus 75, F&M 59. Did the Dips today climb out of the race for the Centennial Conference playoffs?

The Dips are two back of the last spot with six to play.  They're not "out" of the race, but they'll basically need to win the rest and hope for some help.  Not impossible, especially the way things are going in the CC and the Mid-Atlantic this year.  But Ursinus is clearly the class of the conference right now.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on January 29, 2006, 02:03:44 am
That post from Jin might be the most amusing post on this board in a very long time...wow.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on January 29, 2006, 09:55:24 am
Ursinus did a good job of finishing the game strong yesterday but it did make me nervous when Outerbridge hit a three pointer then stole the ball and hit another three pointer.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on January 31, 2006, 07:05:44 pm
Hi, new to the boards.  I think that UC will end up hosting and winning the CC tournament.  I have a few concerns with this team however, there is a problem with shutting down good three point shooting teams like Gettysburg (open looks the entire first half) and Washington and even Swarthmore(why the game was only a five point win).  Also, I would like to see them start off games faster like the F&M game last weekend.  They have shown their ability to pull away from teams when needed, but I want to see a consistent game played wire-to-wire. But like I said before, this will be the last team standing in this conference because of there versatility with scoring from their starters(four in double figures) and ability to force turnovers in pressure situations. Go Bears!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on February 01, 2006, 09:40:40 am
Big game at the Mayser Center tonight.  Gburg vs. F&M.  Place should be packed
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 01, 2006, 10:51:23 pm
Wrong-small gathering
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on February 02, 2006, 10:58:15 am
I hope Ursinus can still hold onto first place in the Centennial Conference.  They lost a tough game to Washington last night to end their winning streak.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on February 02, 2006, 11:08:36 pm
The CC men and women are wide open...Ursinus led WC by 6 at the half and WC then opened up the 2nd half with a 27-9 run, only to blow a 15 point lead and then a 7 pt lead with 30 seconds remaining.  They were lucky to get a big OT win after nearly blowing it at the end...

This weekend, the Centennial Conference Basketball Network will be in Chestertown for a major game in the men's standings as Gettysburg travels to Washington. 

Women's game leads off at 2pm, men at 4pm...pregame at 1:50.  Go to http://www.centennial.org for more.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on February 08, 2006, 07:23:50 am
What happened to all the F&M fans. Are you conceding we're out of it or are you holding your collective breath? If we beat Dickinson tonight I like us to run the regular season table and make the play-offs. I am holding my breath - BIG TIME.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on February 08, 2006, 07:37:55 am
My picks for tonight-

Haverford over Washington

Gettysburg over Ursinus

Swarthmore over Muhlenberg

Hopkins over McDaniel
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 08, 2006, 12:48:00 pm
I think that UC survives G'burg tonight by 2-3 points.  Looking forward to Saturday's showdown for first against Hopkins
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 08, 2006, 02:43:46 pm
3 out of 4 should be enough to earn F&M a play-off spot
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 08, 2006, 04:46:54 pm
3 out of 4 should be enough to earn F&M a play-off spot

How can you say that F&M still has a good shot even if they lose another game?  They have to pass three teams in the standings with just four games left.  They can't afford a single loss.  The Dips will need a near miracle if they lose another game.  Things will clear up a bit after tonight, but F&M can't afford any more losses.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on February 08, 2006, 10:20:00 pm
Now that Haverford and Muhlenberg have both moved to 7-8, I think it's clear that 8-10 won't get F&M into the playoffs without a LOT of help.

Haverford is a poor road team and has 2 away games remaining, but they also get 2 games with the bottom 2 teams in the conference.  I can't imagine them winning AT Ursinus, so if they somehow don't take care of business against Dickinson or Swarthmore, they could still finish 8-10, but 7-11 is almost out of the question.

Muhleberg has 2 games left at home, where they are 9-1 this season.  They'll almost surely take care of McDaniel at home, but Ursinus will be difficult, particularly if Ursinus taking 1st in the conference depends on that game.  In between those 2 home games, they play AT Dickinson, which may be a toss-up.  8-10 is possible for them too, but I'd say 9-9 is more likely.

Both McDaniel and Washington College COULD finish 8-10, but the chances are very slim.  McDaniel is 1-9 on the road this year and has away games against both F&M and Muhleberg remaining, and their final home game is not a gimme against WC.  I doubt they can manage 2-1 (and if they did, it would probably include a victory at F&M, which would make F&M's chances of finishing 8-10 almost nil).  WC gets 2 home games, including 1 against Swarthmore, and a winnable road game at McDaniel.  I just can't see them losing all 3.

Even if Haverford and Muhlenberg both finish tied with F&M at 8-10, each of those 3 teams went 1-1 against each of the other 2, so the tiebreaker couldn't be decided based on head-to-head play.  The best chance F&M would have would be to beat Hopkins in the final game.  Even that wouldn't necessarily assure them of winning the tiebreaker if Muhlenberg beats Ursinus (or if Haverford somehow manages to pull off a huge upset AT Ursinus).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on February 09, 2006, 10:18:00 am
I can't wait for the Ursinus / Hopkins game this Saturday.  I hope Ursinus does not become too complacent and just shoot from the outside.  I think Ursinus is at their best when they penetrate and keep the big men involved.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 09, 2006, 06:20:33 pm
Based on the box score, UC seemed like it could anything they wanted against a very good defensive team like Gettysburg.  I think the loss to Washington and the first half against Dickinson might have finally sparked something in this team.  They have shot over 60% combined in the last three halves of basketball played.  I hope this carries over to Saturday because a strong start is going to be needed against Hopkins.  UC by 8 on Saturday
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on February 10, 2006, 12:31:21 am
It's a full day of basketball on the Centennial Conference Basketball Network this weekend.

First there could be a whole lot at stake when the Ursinus Bears battle the Johns Hopkins Blue Jays in Collegeville.  First place...the regular season title...the right to host the conference tournament.

Pat Cummings will call the action with tip-off at 3 PM and pregame coverage at 2:50 PM.

Then it's a special evening battle as the Muhlenberg Mules and the McDaniel Green Terror fight for their playoff lives in Allentown.

I'll have the call with tip-off at 8 pm and pregame coverage at 7:50 PM.

In fact, it's so much fun, let's do it twice for each.  The women's game will precede each men's game at 1 PM (Ursinus-JHU) and 6 PM (Muhlenberg-McDaniel).

All games should hopefully be available through www.bcmonsters.com.

Programming on BroadcastMonsters.com requires Windows Media Player which is available for free down load here (http://http//www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/default.asp).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: redpool on February 10, 2006, 10:16:44 pm
The UC/Hopkins game has benn moved to 2:00.  Women's game to 12:00.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 11, 2006, 12:55:34 pm
Any adjustments to the game times of the F&M @ Washington doubleheader this afternoon?  The roads between Lancaster and Chestertown seem to be right in the bulls-eye of the heaviest predicted snowfall, which should be occurring later this afternoon.  Safe travels to all...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: sunny on February 11, 2006, 01:06:39 pm
Any adjustments to the game times of the F&M @ Washington doubleheader this afternoon?  The roads between Lancaster and Chestertown seem to be right in the bulls-eye of the heaviest predicted snowfall, which should be occurring later this afternoon.  Safe travels to all...

Still on for 2:00 and 4:00.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: outinamishland on February 11, 2006, 04:25:20 pm
was the fandm game cancelled?  I couldn't get the live stats option to work from the centennial website.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on February 11, 2006, 04:32:06 pm
As far as I know the game was on. The team left here around noon. It's possible the womens game ran late or the STATS isn't working.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on February 11, 2006, 04:34:31 pm
Game started at 4:30. Go Dips!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: outinamishland on February 11, 2006, 06:14:43 pm
Well it looks like with the beating that was handed to us by Washington today our playoff hopes are over.  Very disappointing season.  The only game I was able to watch this year was here at Hopkins and we didn't look too bad.  G-Rob will have to reload for next year and hopefully he can bring in some talent that can make a run for a championship.   
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 11, 2006, 06:28:17 pm
Ursinus takes sole possession of first place with a convincing 89-65 win over Hopkins.  McGarvey goes for 20 points and nine assists.  Looks like the road to the NCAAs goes through Collegeville in two weeks.

Fifth-place Haverford moves to 8-8 in the conference by beating Dickinson, while Muhlenberg could move to 8-8 tomorrow with a victory over McDaniel in the postponed game.

F&M lays an egg in Chestertown, realistically ending the Dips' hopes of sneaking into the playoffs as the 5 seed.  Long trip back through the snow for the Dips.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 12, 2006, 05:03:06 pm
Folks -

For those that didn't catch the Indiana-Iowa game on tv yesterday, Donny Marsh, Assistant Coach at Indiana, ran the team while the head coach missed the game with the flu.

Marsh was an all-american at F&M in the late 1970's and is still F&M's all-time career scoring leader. He led them to their first final four in 1979. Donny was a class act when he was at F&M and has steadily moved up the coaching ranks. I think this is his first year on the Indiana coaching staff.

I don't usually root for Indiana. However, I found myself "tolerating" them yesterday afternoon with Donny's prominent role on the sideline!

Congrats and continued good luck to a great guy.

Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on February 12, 2006, 05:12:46 pm

Marsh was an all-american at F&M in the late 1970's and is still F&M's all-time career scoring leader. He led them to their first final four in 1979. Donny was a class act when he was at F&M and has steadily moved up the coaching ranks. I think this is his first year on the Indiana coaching staff.

Eric


Yes, I saw a lot of Marsh's talents in action back then. Unfortunately, it was v. LVC.  :'(
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 12, 2006, 08:32:48 pm
Just wanted to comment on the atmosphere during the UC-Hopkins game on Sat.
It was incredible, packed house for the most part.  The student government really went all out for this game with a t-shirt giveaway for senior day, showcasing the new mascot, and having the band play during the game.  For the first time that I have been at UC it felt like a college basketball game atmospere(like you see in TV).  The team completely outplayed Hopkins, at one point during the game, Coach Nelson(JHU) told his team UC knew exactly what plays were being run as the clogged up passing lanes or just the overall pressure.  Two straight 20 point wins!  Like I have said before, UC has finally clicked and they are running on all cylinderss.  The road goes through Collegeville.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on February 13, 2006, 10:51:57 am
Ursinus really played great!  I was especially surprised with the effort from the Ursinus seniors.  They played great defense even though they (Seniors) were undersized.  I hope to see this intensity carry straight through to the playoffs.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 15, 2006, 10:15:22 am
Hopefully UC clinches the number 1 seed in the conference tourney with a win tonight against Haverford.  The team should be out to show that the one point win at Haverford was just bad play. 10+ point victory tonight for the bears
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 15, 2006, 09:21:22 pm
Great game all around by the Bears tonight to clinch the number 1 seed.  Convincing 27 point win over a team that usually gives trouble (all without Shattuck their leading scorer).  Looking forward to the conference tourney
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 15, 2006, 09:54:59 pm
Convincing 27 point win over a team that usually gives trouble (all without Shattuck their leading scorer).

Why didn't Shattuck play?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 15, 2006, 10:06:37 pm
Convincing 27 point win over a team that usually gives trouble (all without Shattuck their leading scorer).

Why didn't Shattuck play?


Shattuck was sick
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on February 16, 2006, 01:50:52 pm
The Centennial Conference Basketball Network will be in full force Saturday as the fifth and final playoff berth is determined.  Pat Cummings and Gordon Mann will be at Tarble Pavilion for the 150th renewal of the Haverford-Swarthmore rivalry.  Steve Ulrich will be at Mayser Center for the Johns Hopkins-Franklin & Marshall tilt.  Our friends at WMUH-FM will be deputized as an official CCBN outlet as they will handle the play-by-play of the Muhlenberg-Ursinus game. 

Want more ... our "Score Blog" (http://centennialconference.blogspot.com) will have real-time updates from around the Conference.  Don't miss a minute of the action.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on February 17, 2006, 04:52:18 pm
F&M is still mathematically in the hunt. They can beat JHU tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on February 18, 2006, 10:36:32 am
And need Muhlenberg and Swarthmore to lose...

The CCBN will have live coverage of Swat/Haverford and JHU/F&M beginning this afternoon.  Go to http://www.centennial.org for more.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: outinamishland on February 18, 2006, 06:04:39 pm
The unexpected happened today with the Mules defeating Ursinus.  If only Ursinus would have come to play today the dips would be in the playoffs.  I guess we'll have to wait until next year.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on February 18, 2006, 06:21:29 pm
What's more, they did it without Stewart in the lineup.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 18, 2006, 06:57:21 pm
3 out of 4 wasn't quite enough
5 points off
never thought Ursinus would lose
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 18, 2006, 08:05:45 pm
Intense defensive battle between F&M-Hopkins as is usually the case when these two get together.  The Dips committed a season-low six turnovers and outrebounded the Jays 41-35.

Nelson took two straight timeouts near the end of the game and not once talked to (or even looked at) his players -- he just glared at the officials, apparently trying to make a point about a bad call.  It was a strange sequence.  Hopkins hasn't won in Lancaster in 11 tries (counting CC and NCAA playoffs) dating back to 1998.

Outerbridge played one of his best games.  He scored only three points, but he ran the offense better than I've ever seen him.  Five assists to just one turnover.  He looked like a quarterback on offense, which he didn't earlier in the season.  The Dips will need a whole season of that from him next year.

Brandon Smith finished his career with a 19-point effort.  F&M hasn't had many players who could score so many different ways - scoop shots, threes, leaning jumpers, etc.  He was a fun player to watch.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on February 19, 2006, 09:45:12 pm
Heard Ursinus took all the starters out so Muhlenberg would win and prevented F&M from making the playoffs.  Not sure that is true or not.

any thoughts?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 19, 2006, 09:45:52 pm
I listened to the end of the game and Ursinus definitely had its starters on the floor. McGarvey took the three-pointer that would have tied the game with about seven seconds left.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 20, 2006, 08:25:41 am
I am a Bears fan, and was at the Sat. game between Bears/Mules. Give credit to the Mule players who just wanted it more. They played each possession as if it was their last, and the Bears were just tentative. A classic game where one team wanted it more. However, next week is a new season and I am sure that the Bears will be better prepared.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on February 20, 2006, 09:25:19 am
Gotcha.  Had heard something but wasnt exactly sure so i wanted to being it up here.

Good luck to the teams in the playoffs
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ohyeahbball on February 20, 2006, 09:59:04 am
How about giving the Mules some credit?  Scott had 27 points and Huber had 13 points (3-3 on treys).  They played like they needed to prove that they could win without Stewart, and that is exactly what they did. 

The post saying that Ursinus let them win so that F&M wouldn't make the playoffs sounds pretty ridiculous, don't you think?  And to the person that said that Ursinus didn't come out and play, you should have been at the game.  F&M wouldn't even have room in their gym for all of the fans that came out to see Muhlenberg and Ursinus play.  Ursinus played hard and is a class act. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on February 20, 2006, 11:39:06 am
Something Gordon and I discussed on our broadcast...

It wasn't in the best interest of Ursinus or Hopkins to take it easy this week and not give 100% since they were both locked in to the 1 and 2 positions. 

Both have now suffered another regional loss, which will hurt their chances of a Pool C bid which at least one of them will be up for.  Factor in that at least one of them will at least have one more regional loss and it further hurts their chances.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 20, 2006, 01:02:09 pm
I really do not think you can say that UC "took the week off".  They throttled Haverford on Wednesday at home to secure the number 1 seed.  From what it sounds like, Muhlenberg played an inspired game on Saturday in a win or go home situation. I am sure the last thing players from UC and Hopkins for that matter wanted was losses down the stretch, even if some games were meaningless.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 20, 2006, 01:51:16 pm
Something Gordon and I discussed on our broadcast...

It wasn't in the best interest of Ursinus or Hopkins to take it easy this week and not give 100% since they were both locked in to the 1 and 2 positions. 

Both have now suffered another regional loss, which will hurt their chances of a Pool C bid which at least one of them will be up for.  Factor in that at least one of them will at least have one more regional loss and it further hurts their chances.


It's unfair to say Ursinus or Hopkins "took it easy" this week, but the point about regional wins and losses is important.

Fairly recent history as an example:  In 2004, F&M clinched homecourt for the CC tournament even earlier than Ursinus did this year but won a quality regional road game after the fact that helped secure a high seed for NCAAs.  The Dips won an extremely tight game at Hopkins in the last game of the regular season that was significant to their "quality of wins index" -- it was a win on the road against a team with a good record.  The game meant nothing in terms of CC playoff seeding, but it went a long way in helping F&M earn a bye in the NCAA 1st round and eventually the sectional.

Kevin Small has been on the NCAA committee before (he still may be) and he's well aware of how much each regional game matters for NCAA seeding.  I'm sure he made that clear to his team, and I doubt the Bears took Muhleberg lightly.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: sunny on February 20, 2006, 02:17:27 pm
No one treated the last day of conference play as meaningless.

Ursinus, Hopkins, Gettysburg, and Washington were all locked into their playoff spots.

Seven Ursinus players accounted for all but nine minutes against Muhlenberg.
Seven Hopkins players accounted for all but 15 minutes against F&M.
Eight Gettysburg players accounted for all but less than one minute against Dickinson.
Eight Washington players accounted for all but two minutes against McDaniel.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 20, 2006, 05:08:01 pm
Give the Mules their due for Sat's game. They were in a desperate state to win for a playoff berth, and Stewart was out. The rest of the team rallied together and won. The Bears were in command of the game until the last six minutes or so, and several opportunities to put them away prior to that.

Assuming that the Bears win the Conference title, I would agree with Pat Cummings that the loss may hurt the Bears in their rankings/seeding. Look at what happened last week to the Bears after two blowouts where one included Hopkins. The mid-atlantic rankings dropped the Bears 2 places. I hate to see what the rankings will look like on Wednesday. We may not even have a CC team in the rankings at all. Imagine that.

Bears Fan
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 21, 2006, 08:44:46 am
I was just wondering what some people predictions are for the conference tourney this weekend. 
Mine:
Washington over Muhlenberg by 6
Gettysburg over Hopkins by 4
Ursinus over Washington by 10
Ursinus over Gettysburg by 8
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on February 21, 2006, 11:46:18 am
Any thoughts on the All-Centennial teams?

My picks:

First Team
G - McGarvey
G - Stem
F - Nawrocki
F - Smith
C - Stewart

Second Team
G - Elefterakis
G - Shattuck
F - Webb
F - McCormick
C - Griffin
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 21, 2006, 01:23:04 pm
Any thoughts on the All-Centennial teams?

My picks:

First Team
G - McGarvey
G - Stem
F - Nawrocki
F - Smith
C - Stewart

Second Team
G - Elefterakis
G - Shattuck
F - Webb
F - McCormick
C - Griffin


Those picks sound about right to me.  Player of the year will go to Stewart, McGarvey, or Smith
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 21, 2006, 02:14:20 pm
If the coaches go with three guards instead of three post players, the first team could look like this (with Smith listed as a guard as he was last year):

G  McGarvey
G  Shattuck
G  Smith
F  Stewart
F  Nawrocki


It's hard to imagine McGarvey not getting POY honors.  He's the most important player on the best team in the conference.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 21, 2006, 02:22:30 pm
Second team center position is a toss up between Griffin/Hopkins and Furey/Ursinus. The stats are so close with Griffin having a slight edge offensively, but Furey having the defensive edge. Grffin is the 2nd leading scorer for Hopkins whereas Furey is the 4th. Ursinus defense is superb holding teams field goal pct to 40 whereas Hopkins team is at 43. Overall, the performance of Furey as a team player fitting into Ursinus's scheme of play with the rest of the players would give him the nod for 2nd team conference over Griffin.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on February 21, 2006, 04:43:37 pm
Now is the time to make your voice heard.  The 2006 All-CC team will be announced on Wednesday.  Who do you think should be on the elite squad?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Amish Allstar on February 21, 2006, 05:47:50 pm
Most important player has to be Brandon Smith of F&M.  Not a very successful year by F&M standards but without him they would have been nothing!

Nohting against McGarvey but he has such a great supporting cast to help him along.  Smith did not have that this year and carried the team on his back

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 21, 2006, 07:12:08 pm
Smith did carry F&M on his back all year by evidence of his numbers alone. However, as stated above by Leo, McGarvey is the most important player on the best team.  He is averaging 3+ assists more than Smith while only trailing him by 0.5 ppg.   McGarvey has a good supporting cast around him because he makes them better, a la Steve Nash on the Suns.  If the race is only between him and Smith, McGarvey should win hands down.   
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on February 22, 2006, 09:27:28 am
Does anyone take shooting percentage into consideration? Or is it that you just throw up as many shots as possible, get a high ppg. average and that gets you some sort of mention.

The rational of who gets picked is very unclear and quite baffling to me.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 22, 2006, 11:15:41 am
I think the coaches take everything into consideration.  There have been players picked for 1st team (for example, Ganot in 2003) who didn't have the numbers of other players but were more valuable because of defense and other factors.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 22, 2006, 11:26:16 am
All-CC team announced:


First Team
G  McGarvey, Ursinus
G  Smith, F&M
G  Shattuck, Ursinus
F  Stewart, Muhlenberg
F  Griffin, JHU

Second Team
G  Spadafora, Gettysburg
G  Elefterakis, Haverford
G  Valerio, JHU
F  Webb, Washington
F  Nawrocki, JHU

Honorable Mention
G  McEvily, Ursinus
G  Stem, Washington
F  Fromm, Gettysburg
F  Fabian, Ursinus
F  O'Brien, Muhlenberg
F  Furey, Ursinus


POY - McGarvey



All five starters for Ursinus mentioned.  That might be a first in this conference.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 22, 2006, 12:58:15 pm
Amazing that all five starters were recognized.  Obviously being a UC student and fan, I have no problems with that.  I was wondering what other peoples opinions were though.  I think a big shocker was Griffin being named first team and Nawrocki second and not the other way around.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 23, 2006, 01:06:47 pm
Kudos to Michaels for identifying the coaches going to a 3 guard selection for All Team. Yes, it is surprising that Griffin was selected over Nawrocki.

Prediction for tournament:

Gettysburg over Hopkins
Ursinus over Washington

Final:  Ursinus over Gettysburg by 12.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 23, 2006, 01:12:20 pm
oops, meant kudos to mcnickels
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on February 23, 2006, 05:21:26 pm
As far as player of the year, McGarvey embodies the characteristics of a true floor general for Ursinus - more so than any other player in the league.  He scores, defends, assists, and rebounds more than any one player in the league.  To have as many points, assists, and steals as he does is what put him over the top in my estimation.  You don't need the height to play good defense, and he is a classic example of it.

Who is going to step up and take a CC POY away from Ursinus?

Barrett, Stanton, McGarvey...Luciano in there too I think...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 23, 2006, 09:06:41 pm
I think that Jeff Stewart will end the monopoly that UC has had upon the POY award (five out of the last six) next year.  I also think that Nick Shattuck could make a run at it because he will have to take on an even more increased scoring presence.  I think it will come down to whoever's team finishes better.  Then there are the forwards from Hopkins.

I am expected a huge crowd for this weekends CC tourney.  Should be great with the Bears walking away with their third championship in four years. Go Bears!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on February 23, 2006, 10:02:46 pm
The CCBN will cover every step of the men's tourney if you can't make it to Collegeville. 

Links on Centennial.org and Broadcastmonsters.com
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on February 24, 2006, 08:36:47 am
I think McGarvey could have played at a higher level- say the Patriot League. I'm sure his height kept him from being recruited by the D1's. (or maybe he was but decided on Ursinus anyway). In any event, I hope Ursinus can carry this thing for a while because if anyone deserves it, McGarvey does.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 24, 2006, 01:53:03 pm
Mike McGarvey was named a finalist for the Josten's trophy today.  This is the second time in three years that an Ursinus player (Dennis Stanton in '04) has been nominated.  This is a great honor for the mens basketball program at UC as well as the school itself.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on February 24, 2006, 03:08:39 pm
I really hope Ursinus brings their A game tomorrow.  Washington is a tough team.  I think Will Furey can be the difference in the game.  When he is aggressive on the post, Ursinus seems unstoppable.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 24, 2006, 04:06:14 pm
Washington is a very dangerous matchup for the Bears this weekend.  They create odd defensive matchups for UC with forwards guarding guards and such.  If Furey can step up early and set the tone for the game, I know Coach Small likes to pound the ball early, the Bears should coast.  I don't want to see this game turn into a jump shooting contest because that would favor the Shoremen. Go Bears!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 24, 2006, 05:58:45 pm
I think Will Furey can be the difference in the game.  When he is aggressive on the post, Ursinus seems unstoppable.

Another difference could be the Ursinus crowd.  That place gets extremely loud when they pack 'em in.  If the atmosphere approaches the level of the 2003 title game, it will be difficult for anyone to go in there and knock off the Bears.   But stranger things have happened in this conference.  Here's to a fun weekend of hoops.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 24, 2006, 06:27:11 pm
I was not around for the 2003 title game but I know last year against NYC tech in the NCAA tourney, it was deafening loud in there.  I am greatly looking forward to not only the games this weekend, but the atmosphere as well.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 24, 2006, 10:43:22 pm
Ursinus needs to win the Centennial tournament tomorrow to make the NCAA play-offs.  With all the teams already in Pool C, Ursinus probably would not get a bid, if they lose.
Ursinus is the best representative for the Centennial Conference.  Hopefully, they win.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 25, 2006, 08:35:05 pm
McGarvey showed today why he is the Conferences Player of the Year against Washington in semifinal game 1. Washington players played their hearts out during the second half, but McGarvey's leadership and key baskets/plays led his team to the Championship game tommorrow.

Lets go Bears !!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 26, 2006, 04:04:42 pm
Centennial championship FINAL:

Ursinus 100, Johns Hopkins 82

The Bears win their third CC title in four years.  Now we'll see if they can carry that success into NCAAs, which they haven't been able to do in the past.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 26, 2006, 04:15:16 pm
Definitely a game of ups and downs.  Ursinus was up 13 at the half but roared back to tie only to see UC win by 17.  Unprecedented 3rd title in four years.  This senior class was awesome! Congrats to Coach Small on his 100th win, what a way to do it.  As much as I like this team, I cannot see them going deep into the tourney.  I think one win at best.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on February 26, 2006, 07:56:34 pm
so many people to thank, so little time.  Hats off to the Ursinus athletic staff and AD Brian Thomas for an outstanding job handling both the basketball and indoor track championships.  Salute to Pat Cummings and Gordon Mann for their work on the CCBN throughout the season.  To the five Ursinus seniors - Luke, Bret, Mike, Brian and Joe - congrats for an unprecedented third title in four years.  To Johns Hopkins ... it showed amazing poise and resiliency to battle back from 14 down to tie the game.  It was a great day for Centennial Conference basketball.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 26, 2006, 09:49:33 pm
Ursinus will represent the Centennial Conference in the NCAA Tournament very well. The team truly plays as a team with a great deal of maturity and determination. On Saturday, they could of folded when Washington made their run within 6 points, but they didn't. Today, they could of folded against Hopkins when they were tied after a 14 pt lead, but they didn't. The five starters and the bench stayed the couse as a team over the weekend, and their reward was a 2nd consective conference championship. Do not forget that Ursinus played York (PA) and Trinity (Conn.) very well during the early part of the season. Even though they lost both games by a small margin, those games served as a maturation process for them as a team. They believe in each other when others outside of the Conference may view them lightly. Well. to the other teams in the NCAA Tournamanet , beware of the Bears. They have come to play and I hope you bring your "A" game because the Ursinus Bears are playing out the role of "Hoosiers II."
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on February 27, 2006, 12:44:37 am
McGarvey and Coach Small said it best on the post-game today...5 seniors who've never won an NCAA playoff game.

"Let's go win a few"
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 27, 2006, 07:21:17 am
Quote
                                                                        Ursinus will represent the Centennial Conference in the NCAA Tournament very well.

I hope.  It's embarrassing each year when the Centennial Conference representative loses in the first round.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on February 27, 2006, 08:46:45 am
Reserved Seat-No need to be embarrassed. All you have to do is go back two years ago to see F&M made it to the "Elite Eight".
Ursinus will represent just fine.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 27, 2006, 09:25:27 am
Ursinus will play SUNY-Farmingdale in first round at Ursinus.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 27, 2006, 09:53:42 am
Swish-how far do you have to go back to find a team other than F&M that advanced more than one game?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 27, 2006, 10:15:47 am
RS: JHU beat FDU by 40 in the 1st round in '98. Lets not forget F&M's trips to FF in '00 & '96 (plus '79 & '91 title game appearance & Washington College went to FF in '90 though all pre-CC it just shows CC teams have a fine history of advancing deep into NCAA's). I think Ursinus should beat Farmingdale & get the NCAA hex off their back & I believe they have a reasonable chance to bushwack VWC with so many experienced seniors including McGarvey. Now if they had to play at Lincoln that's where I think they could have serious problems, but if they don't have to play @ Lincoln they would have some chance to get to the E8.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 27, 2006, 10:56:15 am
I wouldn't want to forget to mention that Ursinus went to FF themselves in '81 so they have their own tradition, though not recent.  Behind a 6'9" shot-blocker named Broderick they beat a great F&M team in the tournament after losing to Dips in regular season. I remember that game like it was yesterday as Dip legends Westley, Al Taylor & Donny Anderson solidly outscored Bears from field but UC went something like 38 of 41 from the charity stripe at Mayser (while Dips were something like 6 of 8 :-\ ).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 27, 2006, 01:40:32 pm
Looking at matchups, UC has a very good chance of making some noise in this bracket.  I do believe they get the monkey off their back by beating SUNY-Farmingdale.  Then if they do surprise Va. Wesleyan and Lincoln would get upset prior at home, there is no reason to think that a rematch of UC and York(Pa.) could be out of the question.  UC played well against York earlier in the year and whats to say a little magic can't happen for this years senior class.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on February 27, 2006, 02:26:21 pm
McEvily and Jenkins both had good games for Ursinus.  They really stepped up especially on the defensive end.

Hopkins will be tough next year as their three main players will be back.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on February 27, 2006, 02:33:18 pm
 ECAC Selections  (http://www.ecac.org/feature/feature.asp?id=2816)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 27, 2006, 09:10:59 pm
Did I read the ECAC selections correctly, there are no CC teams in the tournament?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on February 27, 2006, 10:08:39 pm
That is correct.

But that may not be because they weren't selected.  Some times schools declare and decide not to play in the tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 27, 2006, 11:22:52 pm
I figured that was the case because I can't see Hopkins or even Gettysburg being denied a bid to the ECAC tourney.  I was just wondering how many people think UC has a chance at winning more than one game.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 28, 2006, 09:09:28 am
ECAC picks
 No. 1 Keystone College (22-5)
 No. 2 Pitt-Greensburg (16-9)
 No. 3 Penn State-Behrend  (19-7)
 No. 4 DeSales (16-9)
 No. 5 Albright  (16-9)
 No. 6 Wesley (16-9)

Johns Hopkins(18-8)5-3 out of league
Gettysburg(16-10)4-4 out of league
Hard to judge who deserved a bid without comparing records. 

I can believe JH declared not to play, but not Gettysburg.

I hope Ursinus can win more than one to represent the Centennial Conference well, but beating Virginia Wesleyan may be difficult.  Good luck, Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on February 28, 2006, 10:45:40 am
Ursinus can be a bit streaky...if they shoot well, they should win.

Fundamentally, they are better than Farmingdale.  But they were against NYCCT last year and shot horribly.  McGarvey didn't have a great day either. 

That being said, Farmingdale doesn't have a Shacun Malave like NYCCT did...but they can shoot lights out from beyond the arc.

I'll be joined by Gordon Mann for the audio from Helffreich Hall Thursday night.  Hope you can tune in if not at Ursinus...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 28, 2006, 11:41:55 am
Last year, the Bears should of beaten NYCCT, but Pat Cummings was right that they shot horribly in the game. McGarvey had a bad day (2-14; 1-12 for 3's), as did McEvily (3-10 for 3's). For the team, they shot 36% for the game, and 14% (4-29) for 3's. However, last year was the first year without Dennis Stanton, and I believe that the team was still transforming itself to where it is today. The "Bear Five" (as I would like to call them), are a year older and last year's experience was a maturation process in how they execute their offense today (sans Stanton) and their belief in each other. They share the ball well, and have good players coming off the bench. The Bears defense continues to be pretty good. Last year, they forced 19 TO's on NYCCT compared to their 8. Their defense should play an important role on how well the Farmingdale guards can shoot.  On the other hand, Farmingdale is so guard oriented with a team depth of 8/9 players.  This game will be Farmingdale's 1st experience in the tournament, as well as an away game for them. They are a running/shooting team averaging 88 shots/game, which includes 24-3's/game. The Bears average 77 shots/game, which includes 18-3's/game. If you live by the 3's, you can quickly die by the 3's. However, if you keep a team in the game long enough, then you are looking for trouble. That is my biggest fear for the Bears.

The Bears should win by 10+, and move on to Norfolk/West Virginia.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 28, 2006, 12:26:23 pm
I was just wondering how many people think UC has a chance at winning more than one game.

Ursinus can win more than one game because guard play is such a key to winning NCAA games -- and the Bears have excellent guards.  If McGarvey, Shattuck, and McEvily play tight defense and shoot the way they're capable, the Bears can go on a run and win a few games.  But before anyone starts thinking about Virginia Wesleyan, Ursinus has to take care of business at home against a team it should beat.

Ursinus needs to prove that someone other than F&M can go deep in NCAAs.  That's been a knock on this conference since its inception, but I hope the Bears can earn the Centennial some greater national respect.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 28, 2006, 04:26:48 pm

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Ursinus needs to prove that someone other than F&M can go deep in NCAAs.  That's been a knock on this conference since its inception, but I hope the Bears can earn the Centennial some greater national respect.
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Hopefully, Ursinus  can earn some respect for the Centennial Conference.  As I said several days ago, the CC representative has to win several games to start to remove the tag that the CC is a weak league.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 28, 2006, 06:42:40 pm
Bears Fans -

Your team now has the honor of being in the NCAA Division III tournament and of representing the Centennial Conference.  Good Luck!

As fans, you also have a unique opportunity to follow your team and a responsibility to reflect good sportsmanship (or is that "fanship") on behalf of all members of the Centennial Conference. Remember to enjoy all aspects of the tournament - at home and on the road.

I have been to 9 sweet sixteens, 5 elite eights, and 3 final fours following my F&M Diplomats and it never gets old. It is always an amazing time and it leaves you wanting to go back for more! My advice to you is to truly enjoy every moment of the journey as you never know how soon your team and fans will have the reward of going back to the tournament. Some of my best times were spent on road at Rochester, Trinity, Rowan, Widener, etc.

At the risk of sounding like an "olde fogie", please remember it is only an athletic contest and to respect fans from the other teams and to establish a good comraderie with them. Finally, don't forget to acknowledge the hospitality and efforts of the host schools, fans, and cities.

Good luck and go Bears - represent the Centennial Conference well. Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on February 28, 2006, 10:22:39 pm
Well said, Mr. Diplomaniac.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 01, 2006, 02:22:21 pm
Eric,

Great comments.  I hope Ursinus advances far enough into the tournament to experience what a great ride it can be.

However, I can't agree with you that the trip to Trinity in '95 was a good time.  That was a bitter pill to swallow.

Best of luck to the Bears in the first round.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 01, 2006, 05:54:33 pm
R. W. -

Yes, the final score of the F&M-Trinity game was a bitter pill for us Diplomat fans to swallow.

However, eveything else was outstanding - the amazing atmosphere, a packed house, many fans lined up to get into the second game, a nice arena, triple overtime overtime in the first game, lots of fans and noise, etc....

I guess that we can't have everything we want all of the time! Let's hope GRob has a good recruiting year. Regards,

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 01, 2006, 08:37:12 pm
The closer this game gets, the more nervous I become for the Bears.  The team they are playing can shoot the lights out, lots of shooter on the team.  I think one saving grace is that Farmingdale has not played in front of a crowd of more than 500.  I think Helfferich Hall will definitely be pushing 1000 people tomorrow night.  Hopefully the place will be loud. Go Bears!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on March 01, 2006, 09:28:41 pm
Expect more than that...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 01, 2006, 10:19:13 pm
Oh I hope there is more than that, but I looked at the attendence from last years game and it was only 750 (I think that was wrong cause the place seemed packed).  I would love to see every row of the bleachers filled with cheering fans.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on March 02, 2006, 08:15:46 am
Does anyone know when, if ever, the Centennial Conference has had two representatives in the NCAA D3 tournament?  That is definitely a sign of respect for a league.  This year the PAC has two reps- Catholic and York, and the MAC Commonwealth has two--Messiah and Widener.
I continue to hope that the Bears can go deep in the tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 02, 2006, 09:57:24 am
RS: Apparently during 1993-99 the CC got that kind of respect. Admittedly there was a sea change since then perhaps coincidentally associated temporally with the rise & ever increasing prominence of this valued website & their analytical team prone to discounting & dissing even conference champs with 22-23 wins & giving them no consideration for at large berths. Below is a list of what things were like before that.

1999: F&M & JHU
1998: JHU & Muhl
1996: F&M & G-berg
1995: F&M & Muhl
1994: F&M & JHU
1993: F&M & JHU (1st year of CC)

To borrow from "All in the Family's"  theme -- "Those were the Days" which I wonder if can ever be seen again.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on March 02, 2006, 10:17:26 am
RS: Apparently during 1993-99 the CC got that kind of respect. Admittedly there was a sea change since then perhaps coincidentally associated temporally with the rise & ever increasing prominence of this valued website & their analytical team prone to discounting & dissing even conference champs with 22-23 wins & giving them no consideration for at large berths.

Say what?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 02, 2006, 11:19:00 am
It's probably more likely associated with the fact that the region was no longer guaranteed six to eight bids to the tournament, as it was during most of that period. Or it might be better associated with a change in the regional chair at that time, no?

I would love to have the influence over at-large bids that you apparently think we possess.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 02, 2006, 11:20:04 am
RS: JHU beat FDU by 40 in the 1st round in '98.

That's a joke. FDU-Madison didn't belong in the field that year after losing in the MAC first round. Goucher deserved that spot. But Goucher wasn't on the committee ...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 02, 2006, 11:54:22 am
RS: Apparently during 1993-99 the CC got that kind of respect. Admittedly there was a sea change since then perhaps coincidentally associated temporally with the rise & ever increasing prominence of this valued website & their analytical team prone to discounting & dissing even conference champs with 22-23 wins & giving them no consideration for at large berths. Below is a list of what things were like before that.

1999: F&M & JHU
1998: JHU & Muhl
1996: F&M & G-berg
1995: F&M & Muhl
1994: F&M & JHU
1993: F&M & JHU (1st year of CC)

To borrow from "All in the Family's"  theme -- "Those were the Days" which I wonder if can ever be seen again.



The NCAA cut down on the number of teams from 64 to 48 at the end of the decade, and things were bound to be different.  It wasn't about respect.

There's no doubt F&M would have made the NCAA tournament in 2002 and 2003 (with identical records of 22-5 each year) had the old system been in place.  And if my memory is correct, Capital lost out to the "new" system with a record of 23-5 in 2002.  Lots of good teams got shafted by the old system, not just teams in the Centennial.

At least this year, with the expanded field, we don't have a bunch of national contenders sitting at home this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 02, 2006, 01:14:31 pm
This recent discussion can give all the new CC posters a hint of the feelings toward this conference & why it might be helpful to go out with this Ursinus senior class & win some games.
I find it interesting that the Moderator looked up my response to a simple question regarding the last CC team besides F&M to win an NCAA game & made it look like I was trying to make some point of his choosing.
This X-Files type of blame that is placed on the CC re: a 1998 snub of Goucher for FDU-Madison frequently surfaces. Think of it, the CC conference cuts an unholy deal with the Devils to keep out a CAC team & replace them with an MAC team that doesn't generally even play our conference teams. It certainly was a clear poor choice of an NCAA participant, but how & why would the CC hatch such a conspiracy & why would the other schools go along with it? Was it to help out the MAC over the CAC? Is that what is to believed? Note that no CC team got in instead.
It is hard to quantify the infuenence this site has & I believe it is generally a very positive force toward getting better teams recognized. But in most years it seems the NCAA Regional rankings have often seemed to lower the CC team seedings late in the season, with no clear underlying catalyst,  making it difficult to get an NCAA bid without winning one. This probably is multifactorial, the respected polls & opinions on this site may possibly infuence some coaches on the committee, but that fact it seems to happen recurrently makes one wonder why.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 02, 2006, 01:27:33 pm
I find it interesting that the Moderator looked up my response to a simple question regarding the last CC team besides F&M to win an NCAA game & made it look like I was trying to make some point of his choosing.

It may have been a simple question, but was hardly a simple response. Your veiled  allegations, which have subsquently been clearly debunked by one of your own fellow CC posters, could not be left unchallenged.

This X-Files type of blame that is placed on the CC re: a 1998 snub of Goucher for FDU-Madison frequently surfaces. Think of it, the CC conference cuts an unholy deal with the Devils to feep out a CAC team & replace them with an MAC team that doesn't generally even play our conference teams. It certainly was a clear poor choice of an NCAA participant, but how & why would the CC hatch such a conspiracy & why would the other schools go along with it? Was it to help out the MAC over the CAC? Is that what is to believed? Note that no CC team got in instead.

Interesting. I didn't claim that 1998 was the result of a Centennial presence on the committee, yet you jumped to that conclusion. Perhaps there's a chip on someone's shoulder? I believe there was a MAC rep on that committee that was far more directly affected by that playoff selection.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 02, 2006, 02:03:34 pm
Pat I apologize if I misunderstood your point about the 1998 NCAA selection process. The comment had been made in the past that the CC representative was the cause of improperly placing FDU-Madision in the '98 field was made by a journalist on your website & I wrongly presumed you agreed with him. I never mentioned anything about 1998's selection process until it was brought up.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 02, 2006, 08:50:49 pm
Same outcome as before: one and done
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: brian_walsh on March 02, 2006, 09:12:50 pm
I guess my bracket (picking UC to the Final Four) is busted.  Oh well, optimistic alumni I guess.  Just wanted to say thank you to the five seniors for a great four years.  They were able to take Ursinus to the next level.  I missed playing with those guys by one year but know them and they are all great guys.  Hopefully McGarvey will get some serious consideration for the Jostens award and Shattuck, Fabian (who my father who was at the game sad was an animal tonight) Furey and the rest of the team will be able to get a win next year in the NCAAs.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on March 02, 2006, 09:39:03 pm
Unfortunately, the Centennial Conference representative crashed and burned.  What happened?  3-point shooting?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on March 02, 2006, 10:55:55 pm
Nope...3 pt shooting not an issue.

Farmingdale State just worked harder in the 2nd half.  40-32 Ursinus at the break...Farmingdale outscored Ursinus 61-42 in the 2nd half.  Farmingdale is just a more physical presence, bottom line.  Given how VaWes has played lately (very close games), they could have a tough one Saturday.

This much is clear...most Centennial non-conference games are not played against scrappy teams like Farmingdale.  Ursinus's schedule of NYU, Immaculata, Leb Val, Drew, Whitman, and York in no way prepared them for tonight.  NYCCT from last year was somewhat similar in style, but Farmingdale was clearly the stronger team once they got their playoff legs under them. 

More later...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on March 02, 2006, 11:33:22 pm
This much is clear...most Centennial non-conference games are not played against scrappy teams like Farmingdale.  Ursinus's schedule of NYU, Immaculata, Leb Val, Drew, Whitman, and York in no way prepared them for tonight.  NYCCT from last year was somewhat similar in style, but Farmingdale was clearly the stronger team once they got their playoff legs under them. 

More later...
Ursinus also played Trinity, CT.  Their non-conference schedule was not just filled with patsies (not that your statement necessarily implies that), although they did lose to the 3 really good teams they played (NYU, York, Trinity).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 02, 2006, 11:51:56 pm
Yeah, I think Pat is referring to style as much as quality.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on March 03, 2006, 12:29:32 am
I enjoyed watching Ursinus all year and even though they were unable to beat Farmindale State, it was nice to see them win the centennial.  Ursinus will return three starters next season but it will be extremely hard to fill McGarvey's shoes at point guard.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: swish on March 03, 2006, 08:09:36 am
They not only have to find a point guard but a two as well. I don't think they have any backcourt men coming back who saw any significant playing time.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on March 03, 2006, 09:56:43 am
Any predictions on who will be the team to beat next year?  Maybe Hopkins?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 03, 2006, 10:48:27 am
Great expectation can lead to success and happiness, as well as disappointment and sadness. UC was successful in meeting the expectation to repeat as CC champs. However, the expectation to go deep into the NCAA tournament ended with great disapointment and sadness. My 1 1/2 hr drive home seemed like 3 hrs. I am proud of Coach Small and the players in what they accomplished this season. Time will heal this hurt, and time will give alumni and CC fans to discuss/dissect this game, the team and the status of the CC teams and Centennial Conference in relationship to other Conferences. Kudos to the UC fans who were there. They were loud and supportive. It was a great experience.

UC played well in the 1st half. They got the ball inside to use their height advantage, good shooting and played good perimeter defense to affect Farmingdale's 3 pt shooting. UC had an edge in fast breaks pts (6 vs 0), 2nd chance pts (10 vs 4), and free throws (10-16 vs 4-7). Hence, they had an 8 pt lead at half.

The first 5 mins of the 2nd half dictated 2nd half play, and evenutally the outcome of the game. UC could not get the ball inside, poor outside shooting and turnovers. Farmingdale made adjustments by beginning to pound the boards, and putting a quicker and bigger player on McGarvey. Farmingdale had an edge on pts from turnovers (13 vs 2), and 2nd chance pts (12 vs 2). Pounding the boards affected UC's perimeter defense allowing Farmingdale to live up to their reputation on shooting 3's. McGarvey is a super player, and I love his play. However, he needed to be super + super, which is too much to put on any player in the game. UC players needed to help him.

Farmingdale was undersized compared to UC, but demonstrated better quickness and athletic ability. Some may say that these were the same reasons that contributed to UC's loss in the 1st round last year too. I disagree because it all comes down to execution and making adjustments. It is not fair to knock or disrespect UC, CC teams and Centennial Conference because their non-league games does not give them the experience/exposure to play with teams who have better quickness and/or athletic ability. Style of play is great for discusion and debating purposes among sports fan. Imposing a team's style of play on another through better execution and adjustments during the game is what makes for great sporting events. However, some may say that the quality of CC teams in the Conference is contributing to the lack of Centennial Conference success and respect at NCAA tournament time. Two years does not make a trend.

I am not a Centennial Conference historian or alum, but I have found the past 3 years to be fun and enjoyable in following UC. I thank Coach Small and the players for that ride  :).  



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on March 03, 2006, 11:45:27 am
Thanks for the details.
Hopefully all the Centennial teams can have a good recruiting season, but I would say Hopkins is the early favorite based on what players they have returning.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 03, 2006, 12:56:24 pm
I would have to give the edge to Hopkins next year based on their returning starters.  Muhlenberg also has a strong nucleus returning with O'Brian the only departing senior.  UC will probably struggle early with the transition of a new point guard. I can see a point guard by committee(Shattuck and Noonan in an alternating role) approach depending on who is brought in next year as freshman.  The team should be stronger towards the end of the season
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on March 03, 2006, 01:30:24 pm
Ursinus has John Noonan who didn't get much PT this year because of seniority, so says Coach Small...but he is incredibly high on Noonan going forward.

A couple funny notes...the Helffreich Hooligans had their normal chants directed against the Farmingdale fans...

"You don't spell good" - hmm...I responded on air...grammatically, it should have been "You don't spell well"

"SAT 905" - ok, c'mon Hooligans...SATs are scored in increments of 10, not 5. 

If you're gonna chant, be accurate, and gramatically correct.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 03, 2006, 01:38:17 pm
Ursinus has John Noonan who didn't get much PT this year because of seniority, so says Coach Small...but he is incredibly high on Noonan going forward.

A couple funny notes...the Helffreich Hooligans had their normal chants directed against the Farmingdale fans...

"You don't spell good" - hmm...I responded on air...grammatically, it should have been "You don't spell well"

"SAT 905" - ok, c'mon Hooligans...SATs are scored in increments of 10, not 5. 

If you're gonna chant, be accurate, and gramatically correct.

Ah I love chants like that, they make me want to out and get the "My Kid Can Beat Up Your Honor Student" bumper stickers and put them everywhere.   :D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 03, 2006, 02:05:35 pm
It's a shame the Bears weren't able to get that NCAA monkey off their backs last night.  It would have been nice to see them advance.

What will be the legacy of the "McGarvey era"?  Will people remember 3-for-4 in CC titles or the 0-for-3 in NCAAs?  I'll probably remember these Bears as an outstanding team that couldn't get over that NCAA hex.

Someone (either Pat Cummings or commissioner Steve Ulrich, I think it was Ulrich) mentioned during the CC championship broadcast last weekend that the Bears could go down as a dynasty.  I'm assuming he meant a dynasty in the Centennial, as the Bears have been unable to take that success out of the conference.  But I don't necessarily agree that "dynasty" should have been used at all.  Has Kevin Small built and sustained an excellent program for a few years?   Absolutely.  Is it a dynasty?  I'm not so sure.

Best of luck to the UC seniors.  You had one heck of a ride.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 03, 2006, 02:14:34 pm
I think the chant ... you don't spell good was a rip at Farmingdale. The hooligans knew the correct grammar.

However, Pat, I will give you the SAT chant. Math is not a strong suit at UC. (j/k, lol)

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: brian_walsh on March 03, 2006, 02:48:33 pm
Someone (either Pat Cummings or commissioner Steve Ulrich, I think it was Ulrich) mentioned during the CC championship broadcast last weekend that the Bears could go down as a dynasty.  I'm assuming he meant a dynasty in the Centennial, as the Bears have been unable to take that success out of the conference.  But I don't necessarily agree that "dynasty" should have been used at all.  Has Kevin Small built and sustained an excellent program for a few years?   Absolutely.  Is it a dynasty?  I'm not so sure.


I would argue that if you call the New England Patriots an NFL dynasty (3 Super Bowls in 4 years) then Ursinus with its 3 for 4 would be a Centennial Dynasty--I'm also pretty sure no senior class has ever won 3 of 4 before making it an even more impressive accomplishment that adds to its resume for being called a dynasty.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 03, 2006, 03:29:54 pm
Just to clarify things the two chants were as follows.

1) The "You can't spell that" chant was in reference to Virginia. because Farmingdale fans were chanting "We're going to Virginia"  I'll admit it was not the most inventive chant to come from the Hooligans this year

2) The "SAT 905" chant was correct because that is the average SAT for Farmingdale according to princetonreview.com.  It shows the average SAT for Ursinus to be a 1214 (obv. not an interval of 10)

Just wanted let everyone know that the Hooligans were on top of their game as always.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: patcummings on March 03, 2006, 11:56:02 pm
Fair, Bearsfan...those just happened to take place when I had my headphones off.

I did not say Ursinus was a dynasty...but 3 CC championships in 4 years is a CC dynasty of sorts, especially in light of what F&M has done...the Dips stand out, but this run for Ursinus has certainly fizzled with no playoff wins
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 06, 2006, 12:37:52 pm
Pat,

Not sure if you saw my question for you on the Daily Dose blog during the craziness of NCAA stuff last week, so I'll ask here.

You wrote after Thursday's game: "Second year in a row Ursinus goes one-and-out at home to an Atlantic Region team. It could signify the beginning of the end for the Centennial as a serious March competitor."

I thought that was a strange comment to make, considering the CC has never proven to be a March competitor when F&M isn't the representative.  In other words, why would anyone's perception of the conference change this year?  It should only have reinforced things.  Let's be honest: this is not a power conference, although Ursinus probably should have won at least one of its NCAA games.

"Beginning of the end" just seemed like quite a doomsday prediction for the conference as a whole, a pretty powerful statement.  I was just wondering if you thought the Centennial was heading for a rather dark period, as your statement may have suggested.  Am I reading too much into that?  Thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on May 09, 2006, 12:09:45 pm
Folks -

I posted something similar in the Women's Mid-Atlantice Room. I see that Dana Johns has joined Jerome Maiatico as a recipient of an NCAA post-graduate scholarship. Like Jerome, she was an excellent student, a standout athlete, a good citizen off of the court, and a class act all of the way around. Kudos to both Dana and Jerome for representing F&M well after graduation and their playing days were finished.

Just thought I would try to wake this room up a little bit and to see if there is any life out there! Does anyone have any interesting recruiting news to report?

Have a great summer! Bring on the grill and the golf course! Regards to all.


Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on June 02, 2006, 06:30:45 pm
Folks -

Does anyone out there have any recruiting news or interesting rumours to share with the rest of us? Is there anyone out there at all? Please advise.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on June 07, 2006, 08:14:26 am
This is just a question I have been thinking about for awhile.  The response to this question also depends on if any people from these boards are from the philly area.  Episcopal Academy (HS in Lower Merion near Saint Joe's) had three DI signees on thier basketball team(UNC,Duke, Albany).  The question I have is this:can a HS like this compete against D3 colleges?  I never really paid attention to my HS in terms of basketball so I am not able to compare the HS level to the college(D3) level.  For a team like EA, the athleticism is there but I am wondering if a D3 school(like our CC teams) run more complicated playsets that would counteract a possible athletic advantage.  Just something I have been wondering and wanted to know if anyone could enlighten.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on June 07, 2006, 10:28:49 am
Bearsfan, I actually think some of the top Parochial schools could compete against most D-III teams and beat many of them.  I am not familiar with the Philly schools but in northern NJ, I think schools like St. Anothonys, St. Patricks, Seton Hall Prep, Christian Brothers etc that send two or three players to D-I programs every year would definitely be able to play with most D-III teams.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on June 07, 2006, 01:57:05 pm
The question I have is this: can a HS like this compete against D3 colleges? 

I've wondered this in the past, too.  Last winter, I saw Lower Merion play and thought they could compete with at least some middle-of-the-pack teams in the CC and CAC.  They had a pair of D-I recruits.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on June 20, 2006, 11:46:59 am
It finally looks like Ursinus is getting a wood floor for the basketball court!!!  This is long overdue.  I couldn't believe they built a brand new field house about 5 years ago but did not upgrade the basketball court.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on June 21, 2006, 10:47:34 am
The Bears are in fact getting a new wood floor.  From pics on UC's website, some new scoreboards are being put into place as well.  I've been waiting to see if new bleachers were purchased as well.  I cant wait to the finished product.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on July 14, 2006, 02:26:50 pm
I saw the pictures of the new Ursinus basketball floor.  It looks really nice.  I wish they had that floor when I played.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on August 31, 2006, 10:44:25 am

Folks -

Now that the students are returning to campus, D-III basketball pratices and the season can't be that far behind. It is just one and one-half months until practice starts and only two and one-half months until tip-off!

Does anyone have any news to report on recruiting, non-returning underclassmen, or injuries, etc? How will the Centennial Conference shake out this year? Who are the favorites? Any predictions?

Let's get this room buzzing again. Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend if Ernesto stays away. Welcome back! Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on September 12, 2006, 06:52:09 pm

Fellow Diplomat And Centennial Conference Fans -

Finally! At long last, Franklin And Marshall College has posted the schedule for the coming 2006-2007 Men's Basketball Season on its Athletics Department Web-page. The link to the schedule appears below:

http://godiplomats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/frma-m-baskbl-sched.html (http://godiplomats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/frma-m-baskbl-sched.html)

Can the season be that far behind? I am ready for it to begin now!  Regards to all. Good luck!

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2006, 12:56:31 am
Heh -- I see F&M is settling for the ECAC Tournament already? :)

02/10/07    Washington    Lancaster, PA   4:00 p.m. ET
02/14/07    McDaniel    Westminster, MD   7:00 p.m. ET
02/17/07    Johns Hopkins    Baltimore, MD   2:00 p.m. ET
02/21/07    CC    TBA   TBA
02/24/07    CC    TBA   TBA
02/25/07    CC    TBA   TBA
02/28/07    ECAC    TBA   TBA
03/02/07    ECAC    TBA   TBA
03/03/07    ECAC    TBA   TBA

Also, do you suppose there are any other teams in those two tournaments, or are those last-second scrambles as they have been in recent years?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on September 13, 2006, 06:33:14 am
Heh -- I see F&M is settling for the ECAC Tournament already? :)

02/10/07    Washington    Lancaster, PA   4:00 p.m. ET
02/14/07    McDaniel    Westminster, MD   7:00 p.m. ET
02/17/07    Johns Hopkins    Baltimore, MD   2:00 p.m. ET
02/21/07    CC    TBA   TBA
02/24/07    CC    TBA   TBA
02/25/07    CC    TBA   TBA
02/28/07    ECAC    TBA   TBA
03/02/07    ECAC    TBA   TBA
03/03/07    ECAC    TBA   TBA

Also, do you suppose there are any other teams in those two tournaments, or are those last-second scrambles as they have been in recent years?

Drat! I hate it when a team schedeule shows a tourney, but fails to list the participants. It's positively un-American .... :P
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ColonelJohn4Life on September 16, 2006, 06:36:44 am
Aye, the hubris of F&M, assuming three CC tourney dates...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on October 03, 2006, 01:21:39 pm
A couple of days ago, the Ursinus schedule was posted.

Please note that the CC tournament will be played again at Ursinus as the "Home" team. Can anyone spell dynasty  :D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on October 19, 2006, 06:44:52 pm
Since practices started up this week, I was wondering what some people see happening around the conference this year.  UC returns three starters from last years championship squad but have a huge transition to go through at point guard with the graduation of McGarvey.  Talking to some players, they still believe they are the team to beat regardless of who is on the court (gotta love the confidence).  I can't blame them considering their past success under Coach Small.  I see them finishing second in the regular season this year.  My up and coming team is Swarthmore, great returning nucleus for the Garnet.  Washington will struggle this year because of youth and loss of 7 seniors.  Hopkins, UC, and Muhlenberg should be contenders.  Not really sure what F & M and G'burg have this year.  Can't count either team out though, great programs
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on October 25, 2006, 07:57:39 am
Does anyone know when the coach's poll comes out. Thank you.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on October 25, 2006, 10:36:58 am

Leo -

The Coaches' Poll usually is released during the first week or second week of November. You can always check the Conference website to see if it is out early:

http://www.centennial.org

I don't know about you. However, I can hardly wait for the new season to begin! Good luck this season.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on October 25, 2006, 01:47:22 pm
Thanks Eric for the info.

Looking forward to see who the coaches list as the front runners/favorites.

I am sure that the coaches will take into consideration the Bear's 3 out 4 Conference Titles, and the added home court advantage with that new shiny floor.  :D  The significant number of seniors lost from the team last year should not have an effect (tongue in cheek   ;D)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on November 04, 2006, 01:34:17 pm
The national pre-season poll for Division III is listed below. Note that Hopkins and Ursinus were the only two CC teams receiving votes. A prelude of who the top 2 teams will be this year?   8)

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 04, 2006, 06:48:19 pm
Unfortunately for the Centennial Conference, they're ranked 37th and 53rd.  Hopefully the Centennial Conference can end up with a better representation.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on November 15, 2006, 04:57:44 pm
It's time to get ready for the 2006-07 Centennial Conference men's basketball season.  The coaches and sports information directors in the CC have looked into their crystal balls and made their calls.

Johns Hopkins (14) - 157
Ursinus (3) - 141
Muhlenberg (1) - 124
Franklin & Marshall (2) - 114
Gettysburg - 96
McDaniel - 75
Dickinson - 59
Haverford - 55
Swarthmore - 53
Washington - 36

Ready for more ... the 2006-07 Centennial Conference Men's Basketball Media Guide is available for download in a PDF format.  Go to http://www.centennial.org/basketball/mediaguide/men/
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 20, 2006, 01:29:48 pm

Fellow Diplomat Fans -

I was unable to make it to Lancaster for this weekend's tournament. Can anyone provide any comments on and insight into the games and/or offer their impressions of the 2006-2007 edition of the Diplomats? Please advise. Thanks.

Happy Thanksgiving to all. Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fritzdis on November 20, 2006, 04:24:40 pm
I went to both F&M games, and it didn't seem like I was watching the same team the second night.  They looked pretty bad against a team that went 5-20 last season and then pretty good against a team that went 23-6 (and took Lincoln to OT, and was picked by the coaches to win their conference).  I suspect F&M will be up and down a lot early in the season as Robinson figures out his rotation (he substituted a ton against Del Val).

This looks to me like a team without any stars.  The guards aren't the kind that will take over a game on offense very often, so the big men (if you include Teschke) may have to shoulder a lot of the scoring load, and I'm not sure yet if they can do that on a consistent basis.  If Hamme turns out to give you 15 points every night, this team could do very well, but that's a big if.

On defense, they're not tremendously quick or big, but they obviously did something right to hold Widener to 44 points (the fewest by Widener in at least the last 7 years from what I found).  Outerbridge gives you good pressure on the ball, and the interior help looked pretty good.  One area where I think they struggled in both games was covering screens around the perimeter.  I don't think this will be a lock-down defense, but it should keep them in a lot of games at least.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 20, 2006, 04:38:35 pm
Definitely seemed to be two different teams. Saturday night they played with more intensity.  They seemed to match up better with Widener than Delaware Valley.  At this time, there appears to be no go- to-player.  It will be interesting to see which team shows up on a nightly basis.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bballmom54 on November 21, 2006, 01:11:08 am
I also saw both F&M games, and Saturday's rotation was clearly much stronger.   There's a lot of talent on the team and with more practice and competition, I wouldn't count them out! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on November 21, 2006, 02:49:37 pm
There is a full slate on tonight's Conference men's basketball menu, including live video from Haverford as the Fords take on Catholic.  The CCBN is hoping to provide live video (and live audio at worst) of the Franklin & Marshall-Lebanon Valley contest from Lancaster.  You can also find links to live stats and play-by-play on the Centennial "Gameday" site at http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/gameday.html
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: crambam on November 27, 2006, 01:14:09 pm
In all the years I've been watching them play, I have never seen F&M look as bad as they did against LVC.  About the only thing about that game that was good was that I actually got to watch it live through the internet.  I'm really hoping this is the start of something new because I would LOVE to be able to watch F&M hoops from NYC.

It will be nice to see more games again. 

I just hope they play better. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach K on November 28, 2006, 07:46:00 pm
Heading up to see Muhlenberg vs. Haverford tonight... hoping to see a good battle. Any thoughts on who should win??
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on December 02, 2006, 07:58:15 pm
The OT loss to McDaniels was a tough one to swallow, but give credit to McDaniels outcoaching the Bears. Coach Small is beginning to smell like Coach Andy Reid (Philadelphia Eagles) in that he is stubborn and is not a gameday coach that requires insight in what is happening and making changes throughout the game. Coach Small had Stanton and Garvey as terrific shooting guards making previos Bears one dimensional outside shooting team. Now it looks like he is making Shattuck into one, but he is not close and should not be considered a shooting guard. His strength is in his quickness, jumping and slashing abilities, and to make his team mates better by being part of the offense. It is early in the season, but I hope that we are not looking at another one dimensional outside shooting team in Shattuck when the Bears have the making of a good inside game in the likes of Fabian, Furey, Shattuck and Shema. Today's game plan should of pounded the ball inside to the likes of Furey, Fabian, and at times, Shattuck. Rebounds were 50 - 42 in favor of the Bears. It was frustrating to see the missed layups from the offensive rebounds, but Coach Small should of continued with that game plan in lieu of a woeful 3-22 from the 3 pt line. At least fouls were getting called (and some were not) where the Bears went to the line 31 times. I can't believe that 22 3 pointers were taken when previous games were 12 and 9 respective. Again, Shattuck is not a 3 point shooter (as evidenced by his 2-8 shooting). Play the ball more inside to Furey and let him pass off to the cutting Fabian or Shattuck, or back outside to the guards. The play at the end of regulation with 7.5 secs remaining was horrible. Putting the ball into Shattuck's hands for the win when he was having a bad night was ill-conceived. I thought the players Cousart, Page, Garvey and Burnett played reasonably well given that they are freshmen. Coach Small has the opportunity to develop a team with a preferred inside game over the outside shooting. The CC coaches are not respecting the Bear's inside game, and why not .. Coach Small is not committed to it. Yes, it is early in the season, but have confidence and committment to a team game plan, and not a one night shooter. Coach Small should take Shattuck aside and say, "you have great penetration ability and ball control ... work the inside to dish and pass, make the layup or small jumper ... more than 5, 3 pointers a game should result in a benching."

Success sometimes breeds content. This Bear's team is not like the Stanton and Garvey era. Build the game plan around the player's strength's, and work the inside game more. If not, then the CC coaches will let the Bear's ghost of previous CC Conference Championships dictate this season and let the Bear's live or die with an only outside shooting game.  I believe that Coach Small can make that change and not be stubborn like Coach Andy Reid from the Eagles.

Time will tell.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Terrorizer24 on December 06, 2006, 05:49:20 pm
First off, the school is McDaniel.  Not McDaniels.  Second, the player you were mentioning is two-time CC player of the year Mike McGarvey, not some guy named Garvey.  Third, McDaniel isn't the team it used to be.  Coach Flynn has his squad playing great and at the top of the league.  The victory over Ursinus at Ursinus isn't as shocking, as the fact that the Terror still managed to pull out the W dispite having 5 players foul out.  The officiating can NOT be an excuse for the bears in this one.  The bears inside game could be better, and the fact that they didn't stick with it against McDaniel is becuase the Terror have some big bodies of their own.  Daniel, McKay, Arrington, and physical Chris Prior off the bench are big bodies that make the inside game difficult. Tonight's matchup between Hopkins and McDaniel should be interesting.  The terror and their rowdy fans could make their home floor a difficult place to play.  The Conference's top 2 go at it in Westminster tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 06, 2006, 06:51:52 pm
I have gotten a chance to see both McDaniel and Johns Hopkins play... and I would agree that McDaniel is a far better team this season than I bet many thought they would be. At the same time, Johns Hopkins is far better than I thought they would be this season.

Despite losing their starting point guard, the Blue Jays have shown me they are a rather well rounded team. They certainly have a lot of skill inside with Nawrocki and Griffin and with PJ Valerio leading the guard play, they will do well. I was also impressed with the play of freshmen O'Connell... he is going to be a very good player during his career at JHU. You also can't overlook the good play from guys like Kamm, Beggans, Purcell and others.

As for McDaniel... very impressed with them. Coach Flynn has done a very good job in a quick amount of time. Thier win over Goucher in the third-place game of the Maryland Tournament was a great game by McDaniel. They took advantage of Goucher's weaknesses and never let down even when Goucher ran at them a few times.

While Ursinus has certainly fallen off, I wouldn't count the Bears out. Look for these three teams to run for the title... with maybe F&M, Muhlenberg, and Washington playing spoiler.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on December 06, 2006, 09:16:52 pm
Well Mr. Terrorizer, McDaniel had their 15 mins of fame at the expense of the Bears. I listened to the game tonight against JHU on WTTR.AM 1470, and I would agree that you have the number of physical bodies on the team, but you did not mention talent in the same sentence. Maybe the effort against JHU displayed that tonight. JHU outrebounded McDaniel very easily like the Bears did. However, JHU made their layups and the Bears did not. JHU shot better from the 3 point line than the Bears which brings me back to my rant against Coach Small and his game planning. Shattuck is not a shooting guard in the likes of Stanton and McGarvey. JHU stood firm in their game plan and let their cream of talent rise to the top in the 2nd half. Unfortunately, the Bears abandoned their inside work and pretended to be a team from the Stanton and McGarvey era. The Bear's game last night against Gettysburg showed that they are a better team when they work the inside game. Tommorrow against Drew University will see if that continues.

Mr. Terrorizer, I am a Bear's fan and my criticism was about Coach Small's coaching. I am sorry that you feel slighted and hurt that I felt the Bears lost the game and McDaniel did not win it. Certainly, McDaniel did nothing tonight to change my opinion. Just enjoy your 15 mins. of fame in beating the Bears.

Please note that I have corrected my spelling regarding McDaniel and McGarvey. While it is easy to correct my spelling, it may be difficult to raise the talent level of the Green Terror.

With warm regards,
Leo
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Terrorizer24 on December 06, 2006, 09:25:13 pm
Hopkins was a far better team than McDaniel tonight.  The terror simply had no answer for the Blue Jay ball movement.  The terror was very concerned with containing the blue jay inside game and did relatively well in the first half, but the big men of hopkins did a great job of finding the open man, and the open guys hit their shots.  The first half made it seem like the game was going to be very close, but in the second half the blue jays got hot and the terror went ice cold.  As for you LEO, the big men of HOPKINS are much bigger and better than the big men of the Ursinus Bears, they dictated the game, and McDaniel was unable to play the transition game that they are so good at.  I still believe that McDaniel is a better team than Ursinus, and they are a much better team than they showed tonight.  Those two are still my top two in the CC.  Ursinus is my #3, if they makes you feel better.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Terrorizer24 on December 06, 2006, 09:34:44 pm
A 5 point win over a 1-5 squad doesn't quite show me that the bears are a better team.  If that helps you sleep then ok.  The Terror will be back on track Saturday at Gettysburg.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on December 11, 2006, 02:27:57 pm
Some notes from the home office ... how 'bout those Johns Hopkins Blue Jays?  9-0 for the first time since 1991-92 with a senior-dominated lineup ... Nawrocki is playing like a CC Player of the Year candidate.  Hop will get a chance to strut its stuff on the national stage after the holidays against nationally-ranked Mississippi College.  On that same day (Dec. 29), two-time defending CC champion Ursinus squares off nationally-ranked Lawrence ... but we're counting the days to Jan. 11 (31 if my count is right) to the Bears and the Blue Jays on the hardwood in Collegeville.  McDaniel is off to its best start in recent memory ... while Muhlenberg and Franklin & Marshall are also just a game off Hopkins' pace at 3-1.  Keep an eye out on Swarthmore (1-3) who has losses to JHU, Ursinus and Muhlenberg, but knocked off the Diplomats at Tarble.

Hopefully we can get some discussion going on what promises to be a very competitive Centennial season.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2006, 10:46:12 pm
I wish I could contribute but I'm no longer in the area.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: otis on December 12, 2006, 08:29:26 am
OK...my thoughts so far and my prediction for how they'll finish.

#1 JHU - the class of the league...they are the best team but they can be beat...anything can happen in the conference tournament

#2 Muhlenberg - they're playing pretty good ball so far and Stewart hasn't even played yet...he's argueably (sp?) the best player in the conference...if he comes back they will be a big factor...lots of experience

#3 F&M - they have had three different starting line-ups and seem to have gotten a little better each game...experienced, deep bench (10 players)... if the offense starts to kick in they could be tough

#4 Ursinus - I think there are some serious warts here that will be uncovered... lack of backcourt experience...shallow bench... they also have argueably the best player in the league in Shattuck...how far he carries them will be interesting to watch

#5 McDaniel - from the little I know about him their coach seems like he is a motivator and really knows the game...I know the least about this team but while they seem like they have some good players I think they are a year or two away...inexperienced... but hustle and good coahing can take you a long way

These are my final five to make the CC tournament...like I said anything could happen in the tournament and it wouldn't surprise me if JHU WASN'T the CC representative in the NCAA T.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Swat Fan on December 12, 2006, 12:44:47 pm
I think Swarthmore College needs to get rid of Head Coach Lee Wimberly!!! He has messed up that team so much this year!!! He has 2 very good big men in Ian McCormick and Stephen Wolf. McCormick is averaging close to a double-double a game (13 and 9) and Stephen is averaging about 15 and 7 a game. He can play inside and out. He has a floor leader in Chris Casey but wants to play that freshman Matt Allen more. Don't get me wrong, Matt is a very good player but he needs to learn from Casey first. He is making freshman mistakes. Matt Kurman is a very good shooter but Wimberly doesn't know how to get him open!!!!! I think the only good move he has made this year is playing the freshman Matt Turner. Turner is a very athletic presence and can play very good defense on guys like a Nick Shattuck. The biggest disappointment by Wimberly is not playing Mark Rhode or Noam Fliegelman more. Rhode is a very tough player and will bang with the Fabian and Nawrocki's of the league. It also can give Wolf and McCormick a rest. Fliegelman on the other hand is probably the best defender on the team and hustles non-stop. He doesn't look to score much but can when he is open. Hopefully Swathmore comesback from break and start winning and playing basketball and not this BS that Wimberly is doing.

Swat Fan
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bluejays on December 13, 2006, 12:38:08 pm
If JHU runs through the CC schedule with only a loss or two but ends up losing the conference championship game what are their chances of getting an at large bid?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Terrorizer24 on December 13, 2006, 01:51:25 pm
1.  Hopkins-- Nawrocki and Griffin are dominating the paint, and the role players of JHU are playing well too.  Nawrocki is the front runner for POY honors, but a fast paced game and a quick and athletic team could pose a threat.

2.  McDaniel-- The Terror are playing their best ball in a long long time.  The team is very quick, and plays very agressive "D".  Hasn't found a "go-to" guy quite yet, but Foelber and Brandenburg could fill that void at anytime.  Sophomore Ryan Finch could be the top 6th man in the CC.  The Terror lack a single dominant post presence and that showed in an early season loss to JHU.  The Terror could suprise everyone in the conference tourney.

3.  Ursinus--  Shattuck leads an inexperienced squad.  Lost at Home to McDaniel in OT, but should win their share of games in the conference this season.  Don't count on the guard play of the Bears teams of the past, but Shattuck has the ability to carry the bears to the CC playoffs.  Slow down, post orriented games favor the bears, as Shattuck can be more effective.  A speedy guard or wing man could pose problems against the bear defense.


Hopkins is the favorite for the title as of now, and could receive an at large bid if they falter in the tourney.  A 4 loss or less JHU team gets a bid regardless of a CC title.  Look for coach Flynn and McDaniel to get better and better each game.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach K on December 17, 2006, 11:00:36 am
The CC board definitely gets the award for the most dead this year!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: otis on December 18, 2006, 09:23:10 am
I took a close look at the schedules of all the CC teams to see what kind of non-conference opponents they had scheduled and it's interesting to note that the schedules are very solid. I'd have to give the toughest schedule award to Haverford though. Outside of Lehigh (I don't count D1 teams) they have Trinity (CT.), Wittenberg, Catholic and Hamilton on their schedule.
Those are about as solid a group of D3 programs as there are. Not even a half a cupcake. The rest of the teams all have similary difficult/easy schedules.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: chizwiz on December 18, 2006, 02:05:09 pm
How good is Shattuck this year?  EU recruited him several years ago and he was awesome in high school.  It seems he has improved his offense even more and his depth as an overall player is improved.  Is this the case?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: otis on December 18, 2006, 05:32:02 pm
I haven't seen him this year but based upon last year he is a very good player.
A POY candidate.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: cc_fan on December 20, 2006, 12:32:34 am
I saw the Ursinus / Swarthmore game and Shattuck played very well.  I give Swarthmore alot of credit.  They cameback very strong in the second half.  I can also see that Ursinus really misses McGarvey this year.  They seemed to have many unneccesary turnovers.  I am very impressed by Will Furey.  He has a great touch from beyond the arc and at the foul line.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on December 20, 2006, 12:59:35 pm
There is no doubt that Hopkins is the best team at this time. Their seniors are playing at a game level that is several weeks ahead of all other CC teams. I believe that a couple of teams could challenge Hopkins during the later part of the season as they develop their offense/defensive game plans. It will be interesting to see how Hopkins fairs against #11 Mississippi College in a couple of weeks.

Yes, I am a Bear's fan, and the Bears will be the team to challenge Hopkins for the title. I have not seen or heard (audio game) the play of F&M and the Mules. However, if Stewart plays in the Spring, then the Mules could be there. I see McDaniel withering on the CC vine over time. They have no inside game, they are terribly outrebounded, and give up too many FTs due too their physical game plan which would cost them several games throughout the season.

I have seen most of the Bear's games, and the progress has been very encouraging and frustrating. However, this year could be Coach Small's best coaching achievement as head coach. The Bear's defense has always been tough, and will continue so. Their offense is a work in progress, and the first half against Swarthmore was very encouraging. The Bear's offense needs to do the following: (1) allow the offense to center around Will Furey for the inside/passing game, (2) develop/coach Shattuck into using his speed, penetration and jumping abilities toward the net in lieu of outside shooting, and (3) continued improvement in the play of Remy Cousart and John Noonan. Presently, Fabian needs to be more involved in the offense to support his role as a O/D rebounder. Furey, Shattuck and Fabian did a good job against Hopkins last year, and I see no reason why they cannot dominate Nawrocki and Griffin again. Hopkins may live or die from the 3 point shots from Valerio, Polster and Beggans. The Bears are the only team that can challenge Hopkins inside game.

Shattuck has the skills to be POY, but he needs to decide the type of player he wants to be this year. So far, his FG% is down from last year (55.3% vs 43.7%), FT% is down (86.4 vs 60.6%) and 3 PT% is down (37.7% vs 23.1%). While his scoring average is up from last year by 5 PPG, he is shooting 8 more FGA this year than last year. The early games were a display of Shattuck being a shooter, and that can spell disaster for the Bears. If Furey and Shattuck can feed off each other, then Fabian will improve his play greatly, and the young guards would not feel the pressure to make the outside shot. I admit it is a work in progress, and Coach Small must get them to practice, practice and practice it for them to believe in it. Otherwise, it could be a long and disappointing season. Soon, the Bears will play #14 Lawrence in Florida. I am anxious to see how they fare and respond to Coach Small.

These early games have been a feeling out/learning process for all teams except Hopkins. I believe that the Bears will be there for the CC championship game in either Baltimore or Collegeville.

GO BEARS GO

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach K on December 20, 2006, 10:30:43 pm
How did Muhlenberg look against DeSales. I saw Desales pulled it out in a somewhat close game
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: terror fan on December 20, 2006, 11:03:48 pm
 Gee Leo, still upset McDaniel ruined your Home Opener. I'm sure the Bears are not dwelling on it, as contrary to what you think, they have very good players, and are very well coached. They have managed to win a few Championships without your help.

 As for McDaniel, (since you seem to be an expert on them after watching them once) let me help you get your facts straight. In 10 games, they have been out rebounded 4 times. That would at least take them out of the “terrible rebounding team” category. In response to one of your previous post, they do have talent. Ask some of the other teams they’ve played. Just because you’re used to seeing them at the bottom of the standings, doesn’t mean things don’t change. Coach Flynn has brought new life to the program. A team can no longer see McDaniel on their schedule and pencil in two wins.

 As you can tell, I’m a big McDaniel fan, as you are a Bears fan. But as long as you keep taking cheap shots at the Green Terror, because things didn’t go your way, I’ll continue to point out the facts. I enjoy watching Ursinus, whenever they play McDaniel. As I said before, they are a well coached team with very good players. But I’m sure the next time they play, the team that executes their Coaches game plan the best will win. It won’t be because of talent level or the coaching staff blew it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 21, 2006, 11:51:34 pm
It will be interesting to see how Hopkins fairs against #11 Mississippi College in a couple of weeks.

This sounds like Nelson's best team in a long time.  It's nice to see teams like Rowan and Mississippi on their schedule.  Nelson always seems to line up some interesting non-CC games.

Who knows what's going on in Lancaster?  It's just an entirely diminished level of basketball than what people have come to expect from the Dips over the years.  No offensive weapons, no leaders, no fire.  Could be the biggest challenge of Robinson's career, getting the program back to where it was.

It's good to see fans from McDaniel and Swat getting into it this year.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: otis on December 22, 2006, 07:34:03 am
Here's your answer to the problems in Lancaster...get a new coach.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: otis on December 22, 2006, 07:40:18 am
Top coaches in the CC:

1) Small - Ursinus

2) Mucci - Haverford

3) Flynn - McDaniel

4) Petrie - Gettysburg

5) Nelson - Hopkins
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on December 23, 2006, 08:37:02 am
Otis -

You may not like GRob, (lots of people don't).  But you have to give the man his due.  He's the dean of coaches in the region and on of the top 20 or so in the nation based on his accomplishments.  He's a top 2 or so in the league.  you also have Nelso too low.

I like Mucci, but his teams never seem to get over the hump.  If Amherst and Bates and the like can win with tough admissions standards, why doesn't Haverford get some of the same guys?

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: otis on December 23, 2006, 09:15:43 am
Coach C-

Robinson may have been  a good coach at one time but IMHO he is a lousey coach now. He's also been blessed with a lot of talented players through the years.

He definitely knows his X's and O's but he lacks the most important thing necessary to be a good coach...he can't communicate with his players and they have "zero" respect for the man. I've been to many games over the years and have not seen a coach berate his players the way he does. He's got each player right by the b*lls and god forbid that kid should make a mistake or try to improvise and he gets yanked. You can't play basketball at any level (especially college) if you're looking over your shoulder all the time. Watch Small at Ursinus...no yelling...he talks to his players if they make a mistake to make sure they don't do it again but he makes sure they keep their confidence level up. They want to win for coach Small as much as they want to win for themselves.

And don't try to compare Robinson's style with Bobby Knight. Knight can be brutal but most of his players would do anything in the world for him. They know Knight would be right there if they needed him. I don't believe this to be so with Robinson.

I wasn't at the Alvernia game the other night but was told (and read) about him putting Ben Stone in the game at such a crutial time. How do you put a 6'7" 260 lb big man in the game who has very little experience and hadn't been in the game all night when F&M has turned the momentum around with 7 minutes to go in the game. And I'm not blaming Ben at all..you can't expect him to go into the game cold like that...not being the kind of player he is. In the blink of an eye you had two steals and fast break for a dunk...now that's a momentum killer and the game and that is on Robinson.

I could go on and on about his poor substituting and and his players true lack of respect for him but it's a waste of time. He is what he is and that's not going to change. I just don't want to hear anymore of this crap about "how is poor GRob going to pull a miracle out of his bag this year". He's got good players...not the best he's ever had but they can win and make it to the CC play-offs. If he would just put that hook away and show these players he's got enough confidence in them and believes in them they might start playing with the potential they have instead of playing "not to make a mistake".

I'll be back later with who my staring five would be and who should come off the bench.

And by the way you are probably correct about Nelson.




Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 23, 2006, 09:31:46 am
Mercy, otis! That's one devastating indictment of GRob. I wonder how much of it holds water ... or anything else.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on December 23, 2006, 10:15:40 am
I have seen Robinson coach several times at Ursinus's home court, and he is a very vocal/tough coach by his actions along the bench. However, the man has a long history of success.

Otis makes a good point on his analysis of poor substitution and how it affected the game. I appreciate Otis's comments because he brings some substance to his observations/comments as opposed to some comments on this chat board and other boards.

You can read Otis's passion for his team by his quote, and I am sure he is frustrated by F&M's play this year as some of us are about our team. Over time, Otis's comments will either pan out or fall along the wayside.

I, for one, appreciate Otis's comments.

FYI, Furey did not play last night and the team lost by 20. The Bears weakness is there lack of depth - I will concede that fact to everyone. However, losing a big man like that (albeit 1 game) could also be said for the Mules and Stewart. Does anyone know if Stewart will be playing in the Spring?

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 23, 2006, 10:24:12 am
Over time, Otis's comments will either pan out or fall along the wayside.

That, of course. holds for any assertion: it's either true or it's false, it's either accurate or it's inaccurate. Thus otis has a 50% chance of being on the mark, as well as a 50% chance of missing it.

Now a question: other than observing GRob in action, does otis have any other evidence to support his claims?

P.S. I'm anything but an F&M fan.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 23, 2006, 10:46:12 am
Good to see the CC board shining with holiday spirit this morning... :o

otis, it's no secret that Robinson isn't the best adjust-on-the-fly coach.  His strength has always been preparing for games and getting his teams (whatever their talent level) to play disciplined, smart basketball.  If you've been watching over the years, as you say, you would notice that not much has changed.  He's always yelled, yanked players after a mistake, etc — possibly even more a decade ago than now.

This isn't to say Robinson shouldn't take the heat for the losing.  At the end of the day, they have no weapons.  Even worse, there seems to be no leadership.  With the exception of Outerbridge, who occasionally shows some fire, the players don't show much grit.  I think Robinson's recruiting is to be blamed more than anything. 

We'll see where the program goes from here.  F&M has rebounded from previous down times fairly quickly (1985, 1997-98).  Time will tell.

otis, I'd put Dave Madeira in the top 5 CC coaches.  Robinson, Small, Nelson, Madeira, Petrie.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on December 23, 2006, 11:42:32 am
Does anyone know why Furey did not play last night?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on December 23, 2006, 11:54:27 am
If things at F&M are as bad as claimed above, does anyone know why?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: otis on December 23, 2006, 05:23:15 pm
My starting five:

g - Outerbridge

g - Chasen

f - Hynes

f - Hamm

f - Tescke

subs:

McCaffrey, Prysbylowski, Leonard, Yost, Carney
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 04, 2007, 09:47:48 am
Of six Centennial teams in non-conference action last night, only Swarthmore posts a win (77-66 over Philadelphia Bible).  Hard to remember a worse year for this conference in non-CC play.

Stat of the night:  F&M shoots 3-33 in the second half vs. Lincoln.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 04, 2007, 01:04:49 pm
Well McNickels, you can play with the men  8) , or you can play with bible-holding boys for the win  :D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 04, 2007, 02:53:03 pm
Of six Centennial teams in non-conference action last night, only Swarthmore posts a win (77-66 over Philadelphia Bible).  Hard to remember a worse year for this conference in non-CC play.

Stat of the night:  F&M shoots 3-33 in the second half vs. Lincoln.

The Dips shot 18% for the game (9.1% in the second half). Something other than the hallmark of a GRob-coached team.  :o
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: chotch on January 07, 2007, 08:00:54 pm
After seeing some recent F&M games, I think that I would agree with many of otis' observations and others concerning G-Rob. While I did not witness games from the past 2 decades and so cannot comment on his coaching during that time, I do have some observations from the more recent seasons.

His players are definitely intimidated by him and afraid to do anything that would upset him for fear of being pulled from the game. They will often pass up wide open shots early in the shot clock because they believe they will be pulled if they do take those shots.

G-Rob runs a very structured, predictable, and one might argue predictable, system. I never noticed it before, but I did recently- if you watch the team closely, look at how many shots are created by an individual player. Almost all of their shots are pull up jumpers or low-post moves; almost never is a shot taken off the dribble.

As noted above, his subbing is suspect at times. The most recent example would be against Lincoln, Adam Leonard, who played about 8-10 minutes in the first half and hit two three-pointers against Lincoln's zone, did not see the floor in the second half. Unless Leonard aggravated an injury (which I did not notice at all) it was an asinine move on the coach's part. (This is of course not even mentioning the technical G-Rob got during the W. Conn. game, which F&M lost by 1).

Lastly, I think we can all agree that a good coach will make his players better over the course of their four years at a school. I do not think the G-Rob has done that. I can think of multiple players on the team who are no better now (or are playing even worse) than when they arrived at F&M. That is because the coach does not let them play the way they did when they were successful in high school and because they are so timid for fear of doing something that would get them yelled at or pulled from the game. G-Rob needs to consider coaching a system that fits the players he recruits instead of forcing players into an outdated and now ineffective, predictable system.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 09, 2007, 05:24:37 pm

Folks -

As a long-time Diplomat follower, I have been meaning to weigh in on this discussion for some time. However, the demands of work have limited my d-III attention span somewhat over the last year. Thus, I will keep my comments brief now and expand upon them in a subsequent post. For a frame of reference, you should note that I have followed the team actively since graduation in 1982 and, until the last two years, have seen 20+ games a year. I also saw the Dips' Final Four appearances in Springfield, Ohio in 1991, Salem in 1996, and Salem in 2000.

In the past, I am know there were players who did not care for GRob personally. However, they were always willing to put that aside, listen to and follow coaching instructions, and give the effort that was necessary for success. I do not believe that some of the current players are willing to do this now.

As to the comment about some of GRob's players getting worse or no better over the years, I strongly disagree. I can think of many players who developed more fully and got better from their freshman years when compared to their senior years.

I do concede that a GRob weakness is making "during play" adjustments. However, I have seen numerous games where half-time adjustments were made that produced wins.

Well, that's it for now. More to follow later..... Hope everyone's holidays were outstanding and relaxing! Regards to all.

Eric



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: chotch on January 09, 2007, 06:54:17 pm
Diplomaniac, I am never said that players under him did not get better. It is inevitable that if you play basketball every day for four years that you will get better. That being said, there are definitely players on this team who are now playing worse than they did when they got here. I would say that is largely due to the fact that they are playing so timidly under him. I do not want to name names for the players' sake, but if you are a long time follower of the team then it should not be hard to pick them out. And notice that I am saying "playing." I am not saying they are worse players now, just that they are playing worse in large part because of the mind games G-Rob plays with his players.

For somewhat easily observable evidence, look at how some of the players, those who are normally in the rotation, have their minutes fluctuate dramatically from game to game, half to half. Sometimes they start, sometimes they don't. These mind games might work with some players or teams, but this team obviously does not.

While in the past players may have been able to set aside their personal feelings for him, there are many (most) players on this team who are currently not able to do so. I can see why, as being repetitively called out publicly in front of family and friends can where on a player.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 09, 2007, 07:00:22 pm
chotch:

Just for the record -- and out of curiosity -- are you claiming that there's more player animosity toward GRob than in previous seasons? If so, why?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: chotch on January 09, 2007, 08:24:21 pm
I am not making a judgement as to any but the most recent seasons- Diplomaniac claimed that players were able to put aside their personal differences and play well for G-Rob in the past. I am taking his word for it since I have not seen the Dips for 2 decades.

However, I feel that after watching some games this year it is relatively easy to tell that the players are affected by G-Rob's personality/coaching style. Look at them after they make a mistake, they will often look to the bench to see if they are going to be pulled. Hesitation on open jumpers. Talking back at the coach during games (happened in Western Conn game after a turnover, and it happened during halftime of the Lincoln game seeing as how Leonard did not play the 2nd half against Lincoln after playing well for about 8-10 minutes in the first half). The players are obviously not comfortable playing, and it is greatly affecting their game play.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 10, 2007, 12:46:47 pm
What happened to Hopkins last night ?

No disrespect to Haverford, but the loss does not bode well for CC teams in receiving national recognition.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 11, 2007, 03:11:44 pm
I can think of multiple players on the team who are no better now (or are playing even worse) than when they arrived at F&M.

Well said, chotch.  I can't remember a class at F&M that showed promise as freshmen (Teschke and Outerbridge being key reserves on an Elite Eight team) but never developed much in the following three years.  It's been shocking to see the lack of toughness in this team, especially with the upperclassmen.  I saw one player take a few extra seconds to get up off the floor—after little or no contact—following a scramble for a loose ball vs. Western Connecticut.  You'd never have seen that in the past.

I think Robinson's recruiting is the issue; this roster lacks talent and tenacity, a bad combination.  Not every player can play for Robinson, so he should recruit players who can.  Robinson is hard on players when they're winning, so I can't imagine how difficult it is when they're losing.  But his style probably isn't going to change because it's been successful for him for decades.  The question for me is whether Robinson can get top high school players to go to F&M again, and whether he can get the most out of them without popping a major artery.

What happened to Hopkins last night ?

No disrespect to Haverford, but the loss does not bode well for CC teams in receiving national recognition.

I was wondering the same thing.  The loss to Mississippi didn't help matters, but a loss to Haverford shouldn't happen to a Top 25 team.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on January 13, 2007, 11:55:13 am
All of us associated with the Centennial Conference offer our deepest condolences to the family and the McDaniel College community on the passing of head men's basketball Bob Flynn.  The following comes from the College Communications office.
     - Steve Ulrich, Executive Director

In Memoriam: Bob Flynn 1957-2007

WESTMINSTER, Md. – McDaniel College men’s basketball coach Bob Flynn, 49, died Friday, Jan. 12 at St. Agnes Hospital in Baltimore. Flynn suffered a massive heart attack Friday night at his Catonsville home.

College President Joan Develin Coley expressed the sympathy of the campus community, “Our campus community is shocked by the news of Bob’s death. Since joining the McDaniel family, Bob has excelled as a coach, as a mentor to students and as a colleague. We will do all we can to care for his team, his wife, and his family to honor all that Coach Flynn gave us here at the College.”

Athletics Directors Jamie Smith and Dr. Carol Fritz echoed Coley’s sentiments.

“The entire athletics department is deeply saddened by the loss of Coach Flynn,” Smith said. “His dedication and love for the game were contagious, yet he always remembered that these young men were students first. The lessons they learned from their coach will help them through this difficult time.”

“If there was one word that defined Coach Flynn, it was respect,” Fritz added. “He respected his players and all of the members of the athletics staff. He was a great person to be around. With that respect, he gained the respect of his fellow coaches and administration.”

Flynn had guided the Green Terror to a 7-6 start in 2006-07, including a 4-3 mark in Centennial Conference play, after taking over the program last season. The start was the best in the team’s history since 1986-87.

Saturday’s men’s basketball game, scheduled at home against Ursinus, has been postponed. A re-scheduled date and time has yet to be announced. The squad is next slated to be in action on Wednesday at home against Washington (Md.). A decision on that game will be made early next week.

Funeral arrangements are pending.

Flynn is survived by his wife, Tina, his daughter, Caitlin, and twin sons, Michael and Ryan.

Longtime assistant coach Kevin Selby will serve as interim head coach for the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 13, 2007, 12:02:51 pm
Bob Flynn was a friend of the site going way back and was at St. Mary's when I was sports information director for the CAC. He will be missed.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: David Collinge on January 13, 2007, 12:16:51 pm
Let me offer my condolences to the friends and family of Coach Flynn and McDaniel College on the passing of Coach Bob Flynn.   His contributions in life were great, and he will be sorely missed.  :-\ :'(
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Warren Thompson on January 13, 2007, 12:27:42 pm
My sympathies to the family and the team.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 13, 2007, 12:40:08 pm
Condolences to the friends and family of Coach Flynn and McDaniel College on the passing of Coach Bob Flynn.

Leo
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on January 13, 2007, 01:42:20 pm
I first met Coach Flynn some years back when he was at Cardinal Gibbons in Baltimore.  He was a super person, a man of great character and a very good basketball coach.

I cannot fathom the feeling of loss that his wife, daughter and boys must be feeling.  My thoughts go out to everyone who knew him as a father, coach and man.

In addition, I hope that Coach Selby and The Green Terror deidcate their efforts for the remaining season to their coach.

Best,

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: sjmb9 on January 13, 2007, 01:59:49 pm
Coach Flynn-  you were the greatest thing that ever happened to Green Terror Men's Basketball in a long time.  My thoughts and prayers are with your wife, daughter and twin sons.  Words cannot describe how much you will be missed not only at McDaniel but in and around the Centennial Conference.  I was very honored to have worked at your baskeball camp last summer.

Sam Boardman
McDaniel College '04  MS '08
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 13, 2007, 09:48:01 pm
I knew Coach Flynn when he was at St. Mary's... followed him at Cardinal Gibbons... and was pleased to see what he had done in such a short time at McDaniel. I even got a chance to chat with him at the Provident Pride tourney at Goucher. He was a well respected man who was also a very good basketball coach. We will all miss him and his towel on the sideline. My sympathies and condolences go out to his family, the McDaniel basketball team, and the entire McDaniel athletic department and family.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: saratoga on January 13, 2007, 11:48:31 pm
My sincerest condolences to the family of Coach Flynn as well as his players & staff.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on January 17, 2007, 10:30:40 pm
Seems like the Bears got back on track against a fading Muhlenberg team by beating them by 40.  Speaking of the Mules, what happened to Jeff Stewart?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on January 30, 2007, 11:54:47 am
Nice article in Tuesday's Baltimore Sun about Johns Hopkins' dynamic inside duo of Matt Griffin and Danny Nawrocki.  A couple of highlights ... "See this? This is from Matt," said the 6-foot-6 Nawrocki, pointing to a recent cut under his right eye. "We haven't been allowed to guard each other [in practice] since our freshman year."  "It's less physical now," added Griffin, 6-7. "Our jerseys were ripped by the end of that [freshman] year. I know I got a lot better that year."
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/basketball/bal-sp.hopkins30jan30,0,1044328.story?coll=bal-college-mbasketball
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 30, 2007, 03:05:24 pm
Nice article - Griffin and Nawrocki are one of the better post tandems I can remember in the CC.  But they have to win the conference title to leave their mark.  With the conference so weak this year, they absolutely have to take care of business.

It should be an interesting scene in Baltimore if Hopkins ends up hosting the CC tourney in tiny Goldfarb gym.  The 1,200 listed capacity is a bit generous - maybe with standing room.  A few hundred is more like it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 30, 2007, 03:08:21 pm
Are you discounting the seats behind the basket? There's more than a few hundred. It would be a stretch at 1,200 but I would say 800-900 is a reasonable assessment of the permanent seating there.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 30, 2007, 03:15:04 pm
Are you discounting the seats behind the basket? There's more than a few hundred. It would be a stretch at 1,200 but I would say 800-900 is a reasonable assessment of the permanent seating there.

No, I was counting those.  Maybe 800-900 isn't a stretch.  Still not a place you'd think ideal for a four-team tournament, but it'll make for a great atmosphere any way you look at it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 30, 2007, 04:32:27 pm
It sounds like everyone is "handing" the CC crown to Hopkins. While they are the favorite, they have to earn it. I remember when F&M was the prohibitive favorite a couple of years ago, and Ursinus beat them on their home court. It's not over til the fat lady sings, and I hope Hopkin players are not eating too many fatty foods along the way.

Go Bears Go
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on January 31, 2007, 06:16:54 pm
Johns Hopkins at Swarthmore (Men's Basketball)
The 20th ranked Blue Jays (17-2, 11-1) visit Tarble Pavilion to take on the surging Garnet (9-10, 6-6), winners of four of its last five. Hopkins leads the all-time series, 58-35, but is just 4-4 since the inception of the CC at Swarthmore. It will be an interesting matchup between the big men - JHU's Matt Griffin (16.5 ppg, 5.4 rpg) and Danny Nawrocki (12.8, 10.6) against Swat's Ian McCormick (14.3, 9.3) and Steve Wolf (12.9, 6.3).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on January 31, 2007, 06:19:23 pm
Leo,
you make a good point.  Home teams have won only seven of the 13 previous Centennial title games.  In fact, Hopkins' 1999 crown was won in Chestertown.  Ursinus is 3-0 in finals, including a pair of wins at Helfferich.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on February 02, 2007, 08:59:06 am
Saturday's Top Game - Johns Hopkins at Haverford
The 20th ranked Blue Jays (18-2, 12-1 CC) look to avenge their only Centennial loss of the season when they visit the Main Line to take on the Fords (9-10, 8-5). Haverford has won three of the last four meetings at home, but Hopkins got the best of the Fords last season at Gooding Arena, 89-69. You can catch a live video feed of the game, beginning at 4 p.m., at http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/gameday.html
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on February 02, 2007, 11:49:53 pm
Dear lord the state of MA hoops when JHU vs the Fords is the best we can muster for a February Saturday.

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 04, 2007, 01:38:59 pm
Dear lord the state of MA hoops when JHU vs the Fords is the best we can muster for a February Saturday.

Looks like it lived up to commish's billing:  Hopkins 72, Fords 68 in 2 OT.

Ursinus at JHU next weekend should be another good one.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on February 06, 2007, 09:33:30 am
Yes, but I have seen both teams play and I can't say these squads are nearly the quality that the Centennial is used to seeing.

C
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 07, 2007, 02:12:43 pm
I find Coach C's comment very interesting about the quality of play within the Conference this year not nearly the quality that he is used to seeing. He may be right, but this year has certainly been entertaining with many games decided by 5 point or less.

Hopkins is ranked 17th by D3hoops, and squeaked by Haverford and Swarthmore the past two weeks. Does that mean we belittle the efforts by Haverford and Swarthmore against a nationally ranked team, or does one question the validity of Hopkin's national ranking. I tend to believe the latter.

The CC teams this year are competitive within the league. However, I do think that the CC teams this year are a step back from previous years when playing teams outside of the Conference. I hope I am proven wrong by the CC champion winning in the first round this year.  Last year's Ursinus team had high expectations to perform well in the tournament, and the loss to SUNY-Farmingdale was a great disappointment. A speed/athletic team against the CC representative will always pose a difficult task.

Maybe Hopkins ranking is legit. If so, doesn't that mean our CC teams play quality basketball. Be that as it may, no one can argue that this season has been dull.

Leo
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 08, 2007, 09:21:16 am
That was a shocker last night .. McDaniel beating Hopkins    :o   ... or was it not ?

Leo
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 10, 2007, 02:54:39 pm
In case anyone in the Centennial Conference is interested, Paul McMullen of The (Baltimore) Sun wrote a wonderful article about Coach Bob Flynn and the McDaniel basketball team after their win over Johns Hopkins.

Here is the a link in case you are interested in reading it:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/basketball/bal-sp.flynn09feb09,0,4866077.story
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 10, 2007, 10:38:41 pm
The first half between Hopkins and Ursinus had great shooting, play-making, good defense and referees who were not part of the game and you had to look hard to see if they were on the court. Hopkins up by 2 at the half. Unfortunately, the officiating crew of Elliot, Thomas and Fahey decided that they wanted to be the game and determine who would win the game.

Perhaps the refs didn't appreciate the anger of Coach Small on the body block foul on a Fabian layout that was not called with 10 secs left in the 1st half, and a foul on a Hopkins shot attempt with .3 secs left in the 1st half. University forensic students are still looking for the evidence as to why that foul was called.

My explanation is simple. Each ref took 2 Viagra pills at the half and then went out in the 2nd half to "stick it" to Coach Small and the players. I would like to know why.

I have seen 40+ games over a four year period, and I usually find a reason or two why a team wins or loses. I do not believe that an officiating crew can really determine the outcome of a game. That belief has now been broken. I would like to say that the timely and terrific shooting from the Hopkin guards in the 2nd half was the reason for the win, but I can't. The bias of fouls called on the Bears and the number of Hopkins fouls missed and left on the court gave the win to Hopkins. The Bears never had a chance.

First half has a total of 10 fouls, evenly distributed. Looks innocent and fair. The 2nd half had 24 fouls with Bears having 17 vs Hopkins having 7. Take away 3 to 4 fouls at the end of the game by the Bears, and the officiating was still one-sided. What galls me was that the refs left a number of Hopkins fouls on the floor like over the back, moving picks and not having a player set in taking a charge. Moreover, we all like to see the refs call it on both ends of the floor. Why call the ticky-tack fouls on the Bears?

Johnny Carson played a character called the Great Carnac. Ed, give me the envelop please.

Answer:  The Three Stooges, Three Blind Mice, Monkey See No Evil-Speak No Evil   
               and Hear No Evil.

Question: What other famous trios can you name for Dave Elliot, Bill Thomas , and
                 Tom Fahey who were the officiating crew between Hopkins and Ursinus.


Leo
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bluejays on February 11, 2007, 12:49:18 pm
Looking at my user name I am obviously a little bit biased here. However, you really lose a lot of credibility Leo making an argument like that. Why is it so implausible (and this goes for any game not just this one) that one team is fouling more than the other? Especially when Hopkins has two All Conference post players they try to go to just about every possession. Of course the other team is going to have more fouls called on them.

I agree on the Fabian no call and there was one charge that should not have been called on Ursinus that I can remember. From this side I would say that was absolutely a foul with .3 seconds left I think because it directly followed the bad Fabian no call you didn't see it clearly. In addition, the worst call of the game was on Doug Polster who waws called for a foul on a 3 that was not even close. I will also add every time Nawrocki makes a post move and doesn't get a foul as a missed call

This was an intense, exciting game that could have gone either way. Timely shooting (Valerio 15 in the second half) is actually exactly why Hopkins won yesterday. Blaming the officials for this is absurd.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 14, 2007, 09:12:04 pm
Hopkins is upset again and falls out of the national rankings.

Leo
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Terrorizer24 on February 16, 2007, 10:35:58 am
With Hopkins struggling, the conference tourny looks to be wide open?  Any thoughts going into the final weekend?  I see Hopkins, Ursinas, Haverford, Gettysburg and McDaniel.  McDaniel over Gettysburg in the 4-5 game, Ursinas over Haverford in the 2-3 game.  Then McDaniel and Hopkins will battle it out in that semifinal, remember McDaniel defeated Hopkins at Hopkins last week.  Could be very exciting.  Let's hear your thoughts....
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 16, 2007, 04:59:40 pm
Leo - curious... yes JHU lost... but last I checked the new national rankings don't come out until Monday or Tuesday of next wekk. How are you so sure they will fall out of the rankings?

I'm not saying it won't happen... but you seem sure of yourself!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Terrorizer24 on February 16, 2007, 10:37:49 pm
Everyone is sure of this one.  #24 loses to an unranked, sub .500 team, means you drop more than 1 spot, out of the top 25, everyone knows that.  use your head d-mac
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 16, 2007, 11:07:52 pm
Yes, but JHU doesn't actually fall out of the national rankings until there are new national rankings voted on. I think that's what he was getting at. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 16, 2007, 11:44:35 pm
Any resonable and respectable hoops fan, especially the respectable Mr. Coleman  :) , would agree that Hopkins three losses within the conference would not maintain their national ranking unless the poll voters view the CC as an exceptional conference.

My comment about Hopkins falling out of the national rankings was a scarcastic remark as to whether or not their national ranking was deserved. My past comments indicate where I stand on that issue.

This season has certainly been interesting. A number of teams could win the crown, and I will share my thoughts after this weekend   :).

Leo


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 17, 2007, 01:07:06 am
Well, I didn't think Hopkins should have been ranked either, not on the strength of its victories compared to its bad loss.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on February 17, 2007, 09:52:13 am
It's the final weekend of regular-season play in men's basketball and playoff spots are still up for grabs.

Gettysburg at Dickinson (Men's Basketball)
The Bullets (11-12, 9-8 CC) are the hottest team in the Conference - winners of nine of their last 12 games - and can wrap up a playoff berth with a victory over the Red Devils (7-16, 5-12). Gettysburg has won five straight in the series to take a 107-66-1 all-time advantage.

McDaniel at Washington (Men's Basketball)
The Green Terror (11-13, 8-9) cannot lock up a spot with a victory over the Shoremen (3-20, 2-15), but cannot get into the playoffs without a victory. McDaniel has won three of the last four from Washington since ending a 14-game losing streak to the Shoremen last season.

Muhlenberg at Ursinus (Men's Basketball)
The Mules (9-14, 8-9) are almost in the same situation as McDaniel - cannot secure a berth with a win but go to the brink of elimination with a loss. The Bears (16-8, 13-4) are the No. 2 seed for the tournament. Ursinus has won six straight from Muhlenberg at Helfferich Hall since a 63-60 Mule triumph in 2000.

Swarthmore at Haverford (Men's Basketball)
As if this rivalry needs more fuel ... the Garnet (11-13, 8-9) needs to beat the Fords (12-11, 11-6) and get some help to qualify for the playoffs for the first time since 1997. Haverford is in the tournament as the No. 3 seed, but would love to knock their arch-rivals out of the playoffs. Swarthmore has won three straight from the Fords for the first time since 1996-97 to take a 90-61 series advantage.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 19, 2007, 09:37:58 am
I would like to extend a sincere congratulation and respect to the McDaniel team for the way they fought and carried Coach Flynn's spirit to the end of the season. We get on the blog and we jab, rant and poke fun at our opponents (and referees). However, the true champions are the McDaniel players who played with their hearts on their sleeves. Coach Flynn is smiling  :) with great pride on how they played.

Leo

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 20, 2007, 11:59:29 am
I would like to extend a sincere congratulation and respect to the McDaniel team for the way they fought and carried Coach Flynn's spirit to the end of the season. We get on the blog and we jab, rant and poke fun at our opponents (and referees). However, the true champions are the McDaniel players who played with their hearts on their sleeves. Coach Flynn is smiling  :) with great pride on how they played.

Leo

Nice post, Leo.  I think a lot of people were pulling for McDaniel to make the playoffs.  Regardless of how it turned out, the team will be remembered for how it carried through the difficult times.

Playoffs begin tomorrow with Muhlenberg traveling to Gettysburg for the 4-5 game.  Lots of uncertaintly in this year's tournament.  Predictions on All-CC team or playoff results?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 20, 2007, 10:03:43 pm
I am giving Gettysburg a slight edge over the Mules tommorrow night. Two reasons: (1) home court advantage, and (2) Gettysburg backcourt is a bit more consistent than the Mules.  If Scott from the Mules is hot, then he could carry them to the next round. However, I give Gettysburg a win by 5.

Leo
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on February 21, 2007, 09:59:22 am
It's the opening night of the 2007 Centennial men's basketball tournament with a first-round game scheduled for Bream Gym in Gettysburg.

Muhlenberg at Gettysburg, 7:30
If past history is any indication, this one should be tight and come right down to the wire. The fifth-seeded Mules (10-14, 9-9 CC) travel to Gettysburg to take on the fourth-seeded Bullets (12-12, 10-8) for the right to meet top-seeded Johns Hopkins in the semifinals.  The teams played a pair of overtime games during the regular season with the Mules winning at Bream Gym (67-64) and the Bullets winning at Memorial Hall (71-64).  Gettysburg is 2-0 vs. Muhlenberg in the CC post-season, winning the 2001 title (68-59) and the 2002 semifinal (68-59) - both in Allentown.  This is the 133rd meeting between the schools with 'Berg holding a 70-62 series lead over 'Burg.  Watch the game LIVE on CCTV (http://www.centennial.org/cctv/)  Listen to the game LIVE on WMUH (http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/realaud.html).  Follow LIVE stats and play-by-play, courtesy of Gettysburg Sports Information (http://gettysburgsports.com/live/mbball/).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on February 21, 2007, 02:46:59 pm
2007 All-Centennial Conference Men's Basketball Team
First Team
Pos / Name      Cl   Ht   Hometown / High School
G-Nick Shattuck, Ursinus *   Jr   6-5   Ardsley, PA / La Salle
G-Dan Capkin, Gettysburg (A)   So   6-2   Wynnewood, PA / Lower Merion
F-Matt Griffin, Johns Hopkins (A) *   Sr   6-7   Glen Mills, PA / Penncrest
F-Will Furey, Ursinus %   Sr   6-8   Lansdale, PA / La Salle
F-Danny Nawrocki, Johns Hopkins #   Sr   6-6   Syosset, NY / Chaminade

Second Team
Pos / Name      Cl   Ht   Hometown / High School
G-T.J. Valerio, Johns Hopkins #   Sr   6-3   Blue Bell, PA / St. Joseph's Prep
G-Chaz Thomas, Haverford   So   6-1   Huntington, NY / Wyandanch Memorial
G-Kizmahr Grell, Dickinson   So   6-0   Laurelton, NY / The Gunnery
F-Joey Breslin, Washington   Sr   6-7   Hagerstown, MD / St. Maria Goretti
F-Ray Brown, Haverford   Sr   6-6   Baltimore, MD / St. Paul's School
F-Ian McCormick, Swarthmore   Jr   6-8   Seattle, WA / University Prep

Honorable Mention
Pos / Name      Cl   Ht   Hometown / High School
G-Ryan Brandenburg, McDaniel   So   5-9   Mt. Airy, MD / Urbana
G-Matt Kurman, Swarthmore   Jr   6-0   Rockville, MD / Walter Johnson
F-Tom Scott, Muhlenberg (A)   Sr   6-4   Edison, NJ / St. Joseph
F-Matt Fabian, Ursinus   Jr   6-6   Pottstown, PA / Owen J. Roberts
F-Tom Leszczynski, Dickinson   So   6-10   West Babylon, NY / St. Anthony's

*    1st team All-Centennial in 2006
#   2nd team All-Centennial in 2006
%   Honorable Mention All-Centennial in 2006
(A)   Named to 2007 Conference Academic Honor Roll

Player of the Year - Nick Shattuck, Ursinus, Jr., G

Notes
?   Shattuck is the fifth consecutive and sixth overall player from Ursinus to earn Conference Player of the Year honors. Previous recipients include Rich Barrett (2001), Dan Luciano (2003), Dennis Stanton (2004) and Mike McGarvey (2005-06).  Shattuck was a unanimous first-team selection.

?   Shattuck and Griffin become the 19th and 20th players to earn first-team All-Centennial honors twice.  Only Ursinus' Rich Barrett (1999-00-01) and Muhlenberg's Mark Lesko (2000-01-02) have received the honor three times.

?   Franklin & Marshall (17) has the most first-team selections in the 14-year history of the Conference, followed by Ursinus (13), Muhlenberg (11), Johns Hopkins (10), Gettysburg (8), Washington (4), Haverford (3), Dickinson (2), McDaniel (2) and Swarthmore (2).

?   Three students were also named to the Conference Academic Honor Roll, which recognizes sophomores, junior and seniors who are key performers and have a 3.40 cumulative grade point average or higher.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 21, 2007, 03:33:44 pm
I am not going to lie and say I expected another Bear to earn POY honors.  It was a real surprise to Shattuck named POY (not saying he didn't deserve it but I really thought it was going to go to Griffin).  Looking at the recent POY honorees, you have to give credit to Coach Small for his recruitment and player development.  I just wanted to say congrats to all the players who were recognized and I cant wait to see what happens this weekend in Baltimore
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bluejays on February 21, 2007, 07:11:41 pm
I am also certainly not going to say Shattuck did not deserve POY. The race between him and Griffin was dead even. However I though Hopkins 1st place finish and being a senior would give the slight edge to Griffin. I wish it could wait a week and take the conference tournament into account. If Griffin has a big tournament and Hopkins takes it then it would be tough to say he should not be. Or maybe Shattuck goes out and affirms the selection. Guess we will have to see...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 22, 2007, 08:30:15 pm
Well, it is time for my predictions. I have poured over the stats and tried to remember the games that I saw to assist me in who will the Conference Championship. So, let me start of easy and say ... any one of these teams could win it all  ;D. Let me first list the key (or keys) for each team:

Hopkins - Coach Nelson is the key to Hopkins success. How he decides on his guard substitution among Valerio, kamm, Beggans and Polster throughout the game will determine how far they will go. Hopkins has the best group of guards, but how long does Nelson stay with a Valerio who is not hitting his shots, or does Nelson make quick substitutions and affect the team's flow.

Ursinus - turnovers, turnovers and turnovers ... the key for the Bears will be how they handle the ball. The youth of Cousart, McGarvey, Page and Noonan will be tested. The Bear's strength lies with their inside game of Furey, Shattuck and Fabian, which I believe is the best front court in the Conference. The front line needs to set the tone, hold onto the ball, and show these young guys that the winning tradition can continue. They need to limit their number of turnovers to around 10-12 and not an average of 17.

Gettysburg - No doubt that Gettysburg's future is bright with the play of Capkin, Spierenburg and Dorsey (2 sophs and a frosh). Their key will be poise, and not let the Hopkin fans intimidate them. Their first meeting against Hopkins was relatively even at half, but their shooting in the 2nd half was terrible. Their win against Hopkins was based on playing a solid 40 mins. Against the Mules on Wed., they did not get rattled when they were down by 5 with 5 mins or so to go. But the Mules are not Hopkins. I think Gettysburg has to play a perfect game to get by Hopkins, but they have the talent for the upset.

Haverford - Chaz Thomas needs to lead Haverford and play a fantastic game to have Brown and Nowacki ride his co-tails for the upset. I see Thomas's role the same as it was for Tom Scott and the Mules. Their team play is based on how they perform.

The envelope please ..........

Hopkins over Gettysburg.
Ursinus over Haverford.

Championship Game:   Ursinus over Hopkins

It will be a physical, inside game of Furey, Fabian and Shattuck over Nowacki and Griffin that will be the difference in the game. I think it will be a great battle to the end, and the Bear Warriors will be the last ones standing.

Leo



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on February 24, 2007, 09:51:04 am
Goldfarb Gym at Johns Hopkins University will be rocking today for the men's basketball final four. The host Blue Jays take on Gettysburg in the first semifinal at 2 p.m. on Saturday, while Ursinus and Haverford square off in the other semi. The title tilt is slated for 3 p.m. on Sunday. You can watch all three games on CCTV - the Centennial Conference's streaming video setup. Haverford will also stream video of its contests. Finally, you can listen to the Johns Hopkins games and the championship game via D3hoops.net.

You can also get live stats and play-by-play from Johns Hopkins. Enjoy your Saturday!

http://www.centennial.org/cctv/ - CCTV
http://stream.haverford.edu:8080/ramgen/broadcast/live.rm- Haverford video
http://webhost5.nts.jhu.edu/wjhu/remote.pls- Johns Hopkins audio
http://www.hopkinssports.com/- live stats
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 26, 2007, 08:32:38 am
It looks like those who made it to Goldfarb Gym this weekend saw an excellent tournament.  Congrats to Bill Nelson and the Blue Jays on their second CC title.  The trio of Nawrocki, Griffin, and Valerio should give Hopkins a chance to advance a few rounds into NCAAs.  At 23-4, they deserve at least one home game -- we'll see what the committee thinks when the brackets are announced this morning.

Haverford's Chaz Thomas sounds like he could be a force in this conference and region the next couple of years.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 02, 2007, 12:01:13 am
Hey guys, we're collecting previews for each team in the tourney on one of the multiregional boards. If I get them by Friday I may even be able to stick them in one document for people to peruse. A fun little tourney resource of sorts. Would someone here be willing to do one for Johns Hopkins? Thanks much!

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.0
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 02, 2007, 11:33:16 am
As Goldfarb Gym gets ready to host the regional this weekend, some pre-tourney info:

Broadcast
Dave McHugh will call the Hopkins regional.
http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/

Manhattanville (23-5) vs. Guilford (21-4)  6 p.m.
Villa Julie (20-7) at Johns Hopkins (23-4)  8 p.m.


• Interesting Around the Nation feature on JHU forward Matt Griffin:
http://www.d3hoops.com/nation/

Baltimore Sun preview of JHU, Villa Julie, and Hood:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/basketball/bal-sp.d302mar02,0,3858846.story?coll=bal-college-mbasketball

• Nice breakdown on the Jays by Gordon Mann over at the Tourney Preview board:
http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.msg691813#msg691813
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 02, 2007, 11:13:34 pm
Hopkins rebounds from an 18-point deficit to defeat Villa Julie in the NCAA first round, 84-72, in a packed Goldfarb Gym.

The Blue Jays get the NCAA hex off the Centennial's back by becoming the first non-F&M team since 1998 to win a tournament game (JHU won a first-rounder in 1998).

JHU faces Guilford (22-4), which smoked Manhattanville, 101-81.  The Quakers are led by 6-11 Ben Strong, the ODAC Player of the Year - 23.6 ppg and 11.1 rpg.  Challenging matchup for Griffin and Nawrocki.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on June 26, 2007, 07:54:47 pm
Centennial Fans -

Please see the recent news article in the Lancaster Newspapers to which I have provided a link below:

http://www.local.lancasteronline.com/4/206095

Perhaps this will start some discussion over the remainder of the summer since this room has been quiet since early March.

Hope everyone is enjoying the summer. Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ycpfinal4 on August 16, 2007, 11:13:03 pm
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#54
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on September 04, 2007, 06:07:16 pm


Fellow Centennial Conference Fans -

Well, the colleges have been back in session now for almost two weeks. I just wondered if anyone had any interesting information to offer or to report on recruiting, new arrivals, transfers, or unexpected non-returnees around the Conference, etc? Who are freshmen who could be the next stars? Which teams will be at the top this year? Predictions? Scuttlebut? Suggestions? Surprises? Disappointments? Please advise.

Welcome back to all. Let's get this room going again! I don't know about you, but I can hardly wait until pratice begins and November rolls around! Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Coach C on September 05, 2007, 09:57:14 am
I guess something has changed in lancaster if they're waiting for November to begin practice ...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on September 06, 2007, 07:36:17 pm
Fellow Centennial Conference Fans -

Well, the colleges have been back in session now for almost two weeks. I just wondered if anyone had any interesting information to offer or to report on recruiting, new arrivals, transfers, or unexpected non-returnees around the Conference, etc? Who are freshmen who could be the next stars? Which teams will be at the top this year? Predictions? Scuttlebut? Suggestions? Surprises? Disappointments? Please advise.

Welcome back to all. Let's get this room going again! I don't know about you, but I can hardly wait until pratice begins and November rolls around! Regards to all.

Eric

Eric-

It looks wide open.  For years, you could usually say F&M was the favorite heading into the season.  But given how the Dips have resembled the Hindenburg more than CC contenders the past two years, I don't see how anyone can say they're even in the top few teams.  I don't know how good Scovill will be, but let's face it: the Dips had no talent on the roster last year.  It looks like such a different program from just a few years ago.  I don't know what Robinson's recruits look like, but it's the most important class he's had in a long time.

I think Chaz Thomas will emerge as a POY contender for Haverford.  Hopkins should come back to the pack with the losses of Griffin and Nawrocki.  Ursinus will probably be there in the end.  And we'll see if the CC can improve its usually mediocre non-conference record.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on October 23, 2007, 07:45:50 pm
Fellow Diplomat Fans -

The F&M 2007-2008 schedule has been posted on the F&M website for about one month. I see the new roster has also just been posted on the site within the last week. A link to it is provided below. I will provide a link to the schedule in a subsequent posting.

ftp://http://godiplomats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/frma-m-baskbl-mtt.html

It looks like there are many changes afoot for this year at Mayser for the Diplomats. The roster indicates that only eight players from last year are returning.

If the roster posted is accurate it appears as if rising seniors Adam Leonard, Mantas Paulaskas, Evan Hamme, and Brandon Yost; and rising junior Pat Pryzb are all not returning to the squad! This is in addition to last year's three graduates - Logan Outerbridge, Brian Teschke, Mike McCaffrey. Seems to be quite a roster shake-up. I don't know if any of the apparent departures are injury-related. Leonard, Hamme, and Yost all played significant minutes at different times last year. I would think the biggest losses mught be Leonard and Hamme.

Aside from transfer Scovill, does anyone know anything about any of the eight new recruits? Looks like there is another transfer listed in addition to Scovill. Should be quite a different look this year. GRob will apparently have have his work cut out for him and plenty of coaching to do this year.

Is there any other news from around the conference? Please advise. Bring on the season! ;D

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on October 23, 2007, 07:52:27 pm


Fellow Centennial Conference Fans -

See the link below for more interesting reading on another Conference Member:

ftp://http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2007/10/23/sports/esports102307.txt

Enjoy. Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on October 23, 2007, 10:13:15 pm
Drastic changes at F&M, not injury related.
Last year's players indicated that their priorities have changed.
New players should be exciting.  Several of the freshmen look like they have potential.
Hines and Scovill have played together previously.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pizzashop on October 24, 2007, 07:27:55 am
You can now watch all of Franklin & Marshall's home games live, including non F&M games played in Mayser during the Rotary Tip-Off and Sponaugle New Year Tournaments...

http://godiplomats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102007aaa.html (http://godiplomats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102007aaa.html)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: crambam on October 26, 2007, 02:01:29 pm
Outstanding news about the link to F&M home games.  I'll probably take advantage of that--unless there's a cost.  It was a little unclear on the site.

I remember they tried to start with this last year, but they had a lot of glitches.  I hope they get worked out before the season. 

I'm also glad the roster is turning over.  At best, I get to maybe one game a year, if time permits.  But obviously, I miss the days when they were on top. 
I know nothing about the current roster, but in GRob we trust.  If it's true that several players are not as committed to the team, then it's cool that they go.  It wouldn't be fair to them or to the team if they continue. 

I just hope the new players are good.  .500 teams just don't cut it. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pizzashop on October 28, 2007, 08:55:52 am
There is a cost involved. A single game is six dollars, while a season pass runs $50. That will get you all of F&M's basketball games from Mayser, and road games against any other school using B2 Networks.

I promise that this is nothing like you would remember done in the past by anyone in this conference. We learned a lot of lesssons from the Centennial's foray into live video streams for hoops and the swimming championships. This is as close to television quailty as you can find on the web - it matches the level of picture quality the NCAA put out for the women's lacrosse semis if you happened upon that.

The feedback from football folks has been nothing but positive. If you have a good high speed connection coming down, you will be stunned to see where this technology is compared to a year ago. You can plug your computer into your TV and enjoy F&M hoops from the sofa!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: crambam on October 28, 2007, 06:11:46 pm
It sounds awesome, but I don't know if it's cost friendly.  If you think about it, I could get the entire major league baseball package online for about $95, which is 162 games per team, 30 teams.  HBO or Showtime costs less during the 3-4 month period. 

I may consider individual games, but I'll think about it.  It's still division III hoops.  When I was a student, I would watch for free.  It's a cool idea, but a bit pricey. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pizzashop on October 29, 2007, 08:25:20 pm
Fair enough. We knew going in that a cost would put some people off. I try to think of it in terms of gas mileage! I hope that you'll give it a try for a game or two. I hope that you'll make it to Mayser for a game or two. Please feel free to drop me any additional feedback if you do give it a shot. If you don't, we'll still have the live stats up and running on the web site.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: crambam on November 02, 2007, 04:31:33 pm
I try to make it every so often.  My fraternity has its Founders Day celebration every February.  When I'm lucky, it coincides with a home game, (usually the alumni game which is an added bonus).

I've seen F&M hoops in 6 different states.  If anything, you should at least have a free audio broadcast. 

More important, I really the season is good.  I know nothing about the current state of the team, other than it hasn't been that good over the last 2 years.  They lost more games last year than in my entire 4 years at the school, and maybe even a few years after I graduated.  I'm not used to that.  I don't want to GET used to that either.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on November 04, 2007, 12:39:16 pm
Looking forward to the start of the season. Followed this league for a long time, new to posting. Looks like Gettysburg may be the team to beat this year with Swat capable of surprising. Haverford lost their big guy but look to be a contender with Ursinus despite losing 2 starters always dangerous. F&M hard to figure with all the roster moves, Muhlenberg will be young having lost 7 seniors, Johns Hopkins lost their big guys and Dickinson, McDaniel and Washington young but improving. Should be an interesting year.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 07, 2007, 08:31:35 pm


Fellow Diplomat Fans (and other Centennial Conference fans as well) -

I was just on the F&M website's Athletics Department page and noticed that the SID has recently posted the pre-season preview. It provides some basic information on the new recruits and GRob's outlook and expectations for the coming 2007-2008 season. You may find it to be interesting reading. So, I have taken the liberty of posting the link to said preview. It follows below:

http://http://godiplomats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/110707aaa.html

Enjoy. Perhaps, it will get some discussions and buzz going in this room! It is far too quiet and tame in here?!?

It is only just over one week until the season starts! Yeh! I can't hardly wait - bring it on! Good luck to all Centennial Conference members.

Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pizzashop on November 08, 2007, 07:10:00 am
Crambam -

Free audio from Mayser would conflict with our agreement with B2, but we will still offer live stats (hoops sked page and bottom of GoDiplomats.com).  We will have free audio from WFMN for select road games, and will always link you to the opponent's radio/internet stream when available and not covered by WFNM.

- or -

Check in on this page on gameday: http://godiplomats.cstv.com/multimedia/broadcasts.html  (http://godiplomats.cstv.com/multimedia/broadcasts.html) to see what multimedia offerings are available.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 08, 2007, 01:42:08 pm
Preseason poll is out.  Ursinus gets the nod with POY Nick Shattuck returning.  It's surprising not to see him gain (at least) an Honorable Mention nod on this site's Preseason All-America team.

1. Ursinus (7) 137
2. Gettysburg (5) 136
3. Haverford (4) 121
4. Johns Hopkins 111
5. Franklin & Marshall (2) 100
6. Dickinson (2)   89
7. Swarthmore   66
8. McDaniel   65
9. Muhlenberg   55
10. Washington   20
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: heartofachampion on November 08, 2007, 05:12:22 pm
It feels like I have not posted on here in a year or two...oh wait it has!

I read the article on F&M's website the other day as well and I am not sure how I feel about this years team.  G Rob seems to think he has a team to build around and gives a positive tone, not sure if this is because the last few years have been rough and he wants people to be upbeat or if he has some serious recruits and is ready to make a run in a few years.  I will say this, it seems every time F&M has a down run for a year or two (Mid/late 90's) they make a run.  I am hoping this means they are making a run!!!

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 08, 2007, 06:52:22 pm

r. w. -

Thanks for posting the Centennial Conference Pre-Season Poll. You beat me to it! I was going to check the Conference website later this evening. The Pre-Season Poll of coaches and SID's looks just about right to me.

However, given all of the talent and experience lost to graduation, I am a bit surprised that JHU is ranked as high as they are. The Jays are never quite as good when they lack a dominant inside presence and have to rely on their guard and swingmen (small forwards). I might have reversed them and the Dips in the ranking.

I definitely would have ranked Haverford ahead of Gettysburg. I think this will be one of the Fords' strongest teams in many years. A strong team will compliment their relatively new arena. If you haven't been there yet, it is outstanding compared to the old gym! I think the Bullets can be good, I am just not sure how good.

Finally, in my humble opinion, the bottom half of the pool looks OK to me. It appears to be the right teams in the right order. Sorry about that guys.

What are your thoughts? Please advise.

Here's hoping the "new blood" (recruits) restores the Dips to their traditional emphasis on DEFENSE, team play, and winning ways! Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 08, 2007, 07:09:13 pm

Folks -

I am normally a poster in the Centennial Conference room. However, I found this link on the Conference website to an article in The Baltimore Sun containing pre-season previews more than just the Maryland members of the Centennial Conference. So, I am also posting it and sharing in the rooms of several other conferences: AMCC, CAC, and Landmark.

The link follows below:

http://http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/basketball/mens/bal-sp.smallcaps06nov06,0,2462025.story?page=2

Enjoy! Bring on the season. Good luck to all teams. Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 08, 2007, 07:18:27 pm


Fellow Centennial Conference Fans -

Here is the link to the Conference's pre-season preview poll of both coaches and SIDS's that r. w. and I have been discussing. It is for both Men's and Women's basketball.

The link follows below:

http://http://www.centennial.org/polls/winter08.html

Enjoy! Any thoughts, oppinions, or comments to spur discussion in here. It is far too quiet this close to the start of the season!

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 08, 2007, 07:27:51 pm


Fellow Centennial Conference Fans (especially those Golden Bear fans) -

In the dual interests of infromation-sharing and objectivity, I am providing a link to today's article in The Pottstown Mercury concerning the pre-season poll and the Bears. It is as follows:

Click here (http://www.pottsmerc.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/Daily;jsessionid=2SX2HxKX02pqWzZwVxsWKP0yqt0NhrKr6pVvKQcpH70LQTlgMSlV!-219145502?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pg_article&r21.pgpath=%2FPTM%2FSports&r21.content=%2FPTM%2FSports%2FTopStoryList_Story_827400)

Enjoy the season. Good luck and regards to all!


Eric

P. S. - I didn't want to be accused of being a "hopeless homer" or "shill" for my Diplomats. We are supposed to get light snow up here in southwest-central PA tomorrow! Can you believe that it is that time of year already?


Edited for formatting -- Thanks, Ralph Turner ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on November 09, 2007, 08:39:26 am
Its good to see UC picked first in the coach's poll but I dont understand how they could finish first. I am sure that they will make the playoffs but first place seems kind of lofty. I know they have the returning POY but what else.  They lost both forwards to graduation and I cant see what they already had doing all that much damage (unless the freshman are something, this will probably end up being a guard dominated team). I guess I am just skeptical since I graduated but seeing UC picked first was really a surprise to me.  Could someone enlighten me?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 09, 2007, 01:08:26 pm
bearsfan1 -

I think the coaches and SIDs have respect for Kevin Small's program.  With no obvious powerhouse in the CC, and the return of Shattuck and a good backcourt, Ursinus gets the benefit of the doubt.  But Gettysburg is just a single point behind the Bears in the poll, so there really isn't a clear favorite.  Chaz Thomas and Haverford will have something to say about the race as well.


Eric -

I agree, defense has been sorely lacking in Mayser the past two years.  Combine that with a serious lack of playmakers on the offensive end, and it's been a recipe for disaster.  The days of 26 wins and deep NCAA runs have faded away quickly.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: crambam on November 10, 2007, 05:17:41 pm
Have there been any roster changes at F&M to suggest a reversal of the trend?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on November 11, 2007, 09:41:50 am
Mules looked good against Albright in a scrimmage Friday.  After 40 minutes, Mules led 70-62. Both coaches used a number of different combos so it's hard to evaluate the score but Mules big guys played well and team shot well.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 11, 2007, 05:32:34 pm
Have there been any roster changes at F&M to suggest a reversal of the trend?

crambam -

This article in today's Sunday News might interest you.  Hard to say anything before the ball is tipped on Friday, however, so take it for what it's worth!

http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/212220
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 12, 2007, 06:00:03 pm

r. w. -

Thanks for posting the article. It was interesting reading. I am sure there will be other articles in the two daily papers in Lancaster. I will try to post them if I see them. Otherwise, here's looking toward a much improved season and a return to normal at Mayser Center!

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bballfan112 on November 12, 2007, 06:01:13 pm
Anyone have any word about how the Dips fared in any of their preseason scrimmages?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: nescac1 on November 13, 2007, 02:17:38 pm
Williams fan here.  Other than Shattuck, who on Ursinus is noteworthy?  What style of team are they?   

I also can speak about one recruit in this league.  I am familiar with James McNally (F&M) and I believe he will be a big time player at the Div-III level, he definitely got some higher looks.  He is very strong / physical for his age with a nice scoring touch, and dominated at a fairly high level of competition (big school league in central jersey).  I would be surprised if he does not develop into an all-league caliber player.   
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 13, 2007, 05:08:02 pm
Williams fan here.  Other than Shattuck, who on Ursinus is noteworthy?  What style of team are they?  

An Ursinus fan would probably be more helpful, but here's what I can add:

Shattuck is the latest in a line of star players for Kevin Small.  Most of the offense will run through him because he can score inside and outside (he averaged over 20 ppg as a junior).  They lost two starting big men but return 6-10 Michael Shema.  Cousart is a solid point guard.  Not sure about any newcomers, etc., but they usually recruit well.

Thanks for the info on McNally - F&M hasn't had a really good big man since Juskin graduated a few years ago.  We'll see if they've got one soon.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 14, 2007, 10:35:38 am


Fellow Diplomat (an other Centennial Conference) Fans -

Here is a link to an article that ran in one of Lancaster's daily newspapers today. It offers some interesting reading on the Dips' new recruits and potential starting line-up. We haven't had any impact transfers from other divisions since Jack Wright! Sounds like the outlook is very positive and encouraging.

http://http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/212381

Enjoy! Are any of you folks going to make it to Mayser Center this weekend for a first-hand look at the 2007-2008 Dips? If so, please offer comments and impressions early next week.

Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 14, 2007, 08:36:22 pm

nescac1 -

I appreciate the scouting report on and encouraging analysis of McNally. Did you see him play in person? Please advise. Sounds like he has a tremendous upside.

Looks like GRob must have done a better job of recruiting this year! That's what was missing the last two years - that hard-to-find mix of ability, mental and physical toughness, "coachability", and hard-nosed desire. Hopefully, he hates to lose and will be really "coachable" and fully develop throughout his four years in Mayser Center. The various newspaper articles seem to indicate that he will see alot of playing time as a freshman.

What Division I programs were interested in him or vice versa?

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: nescac1 on November 15, 2007, 02:45:19 pm
Sounds like Ursinus should be a good test for where the Ephs' stand.  Williams got off to a horrific start last year with a very young team, but expectations are much higher this year.

As for McNally, I have not seen him play, but he attended my high school so I have followed his career and heard only good things (I also hear he had a very strong academics, so I was hoping he might consider Williams).  I don't know if he had any Div I offers, but I read that some Patriot League schools were at least checking him out.  Because of his size and strength, he was able to physically dominate most of the competition in H.S., so there may be an adjustment period, but he definitely played some solid competition in Group IV New Jersey (Bridgewater has produced some big-time players in the past, including NBA'er Eric Murdock and a few other guys who played in the Big East). 

More on McNally:

http://www.metrohoops.com/Magazine%20James%20MCnally.htm
http://www.nj.com/hssports/boysbasketball/ledger/index.ssf?/hssports/boysbasketball/stories/somerset.html
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: crambam on November 15, 2007, 03:20:17 pm
The last few posts show a hell of a benefit to this board.  This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. 

Given the last 2 seasons, I wouldn't care if Coach Robinson wanted to have a freshmen five starters, and let them grow together.  If they are this good, they could actually gel by CC tourney time and become something.

That can definitely happen.  I always felt that the 1993 team (first year post-Lasky era) really gelled at the right time.  The team just got WAY better at the end of the season than at the beginning.

Coach Robinson can't possibly be happy with the last 2 years.  I know as an alum who spent a lot of time yelling at Mayser, when they don't make the tournament, it sickens me.  Call it spoiled, but winning is everything, and I really want Robinson to get that national title.

I love the idea of a DI transfer.

Hopefully they will roll through Sponaugle.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: heartofachampion on November 15, 2007, 05:12:40 pm
http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/212456

Article on F&M in todays paper.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 15, 2007, 06:41:07 pm

nescac1 -

Thanks for your follow-up post and the links you provided. They were very intersting and encouraging reading for all Diplomat fans. I think we need to hear more from you in this room! Keep on posting.


crambam -

I couldn't agree with you more concerning GRob and being spoiled by many outstanding players and seasons. I also agree that if the freshmen are as good as advertised they should start or, at the very least, play alot of minutes by the end of the regular season. Both the Lasky/Finch-led teams and the Janetta/Detz-led teams started many underclassmen and were very successful in their respective regular seasons and deep into the tornaments.

Concerning the Division I transfers, it their academics are strong, I think it is great that they transfer and get more playing time then they got at their respective Division I schools. Everyone deserves a chance to shine.

The other observation that I will offer about past teams is that the last squad to visit Salem in 2000 (Alex Kraft, Cas Thomas, Mike Ritacco, Jerome Maiatico, Dave Manzo, Mark Sadowski, and Grant Sporny) also gelled at the right time at the end of the year. They had a decent start to the season with Jerome in Italy and, after he returned, a horrible mid-season stretch in late January when they lost five of seven)!


heart -

Thanks for posting the link to today's Lancaster Newspapers article. You beat me to it as I saw it early this morning but was too busy today to get on D3hoops until now! Sounds like Scovill will be a real contributor. It is too bad that he didn't start out at F&M as a freshman.

Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on November 16, 2007, 07:37:53 am
Good luck to the Centennial teams as they start the season tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: crambam on November 16, 2007, 07:52:05 am
Gelling at the right time is probably the most important thing.  From what I remember of the Jannetta era, they only gelled at the right time once.  They were always a strong team and always tournament worthy, and always capable of taking the title.  But they seemed to play their best basketball a little bit earlier in the year.  So they would end up getting upset in the tournament because to win that, you need to be at your absolute best. 

The one point loss to Rowan still bugs me because that was the year they were gelling in March.  I think a few bad calls killed them and that had they won that game, they might have taken the whole thing.

Oh well. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 16, 2007, 10:50:41 am
Here's the 2008 CC media guide.  Lots of good info here:
http://www.centennial.org/basketball/mediaguide08/men/index.html

Best of luck to everyone this weekend.  That cold wind outside means it's time for some hoops!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: heartofachampion on November 17, 2007, 10:35:45 am
Anyone see the F&M game last night?  According to the paper they looked impressive, but I never trust the Lancaster papers...they tend to sugar coat things!

Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 17, 2007, 01:14:09 pm
F&M had a good start.  The opponent makes the score deceptive.  Scovill and Hines, teammatess in high school, played solid games.  Selig looked a lot stronger than last year.  Everyone on the bench got to play.  I liked the play of Brooks and Tolliver.  The freshman point guard, Sullivan, had his moments, good and bad, but looks like he has a lot of potential.  The team played with a lot more enthusiasm than last year.  The team was aggressive on the boards.  F&M will be much better than last year especially once they get some experience--a lot of new faces.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: heartofachampion on November 18, 2007, 12:23:29 pm
Anyone go tot he F&M game last night?  What happened?  Did we see the good and the bad parts of being a young team this weekend?  Good talent, youth make mistakes, etc.

Thanks
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 18, 2007, 04:58:50 pm
heartofachampion, your answer is yes.
Sullivan played a decent game, but his inexperience came into play.
Also, a lot of key extra points were missed.
Hines struggled with his shot the second half.  Most of his shots just rimmed out.  If a few of his shots had dropped, he would have had a great game.
F&M had a chance to win with the last shot, but rushed the shot.
I thought they would go for a three, but instead they drove for a two to tie.  The shot was missed, but F&M came up with the rebound for a second chance.  Unfortunately, the shooter wasn't aware that he had time to set up a shot and fired it while coming down with the rebound.
There were still a lot of positives in the game, and, hopefully, experience will help the team to have a successful season.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 24, 2007, 01:46:39 pm
Hey... busy weekend of basketball and I am at the Provident Pride of Maryland Tournament where McDaniel, Johns Hopkins, and Washington are playing.

If anyone is curious about what is happening and can't make the game, I am blogging court-side on the Daily Dose.
http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/2007/11/24/court-side-at-the-provident-pride-tournament/

Enjoy!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 25, 2007, 11:46:15 pm
Not many people chatting about the Centennial Conference... that's too bad this year... because this could be an exciting year in the CC.

And the first "surprise" out of the blocks... McDaniel.

The Green Terror was picked to finish 8th in the CC this year... but are off to a 3-0 start after winning the Provident Pride of Maryland Tournament with a thrilling, 3OT win over Hood in the championship game.

McDaniel beat Villa Julie and Salisbury on the way and fought with a very good Hood team to win it.

Gettysburg is obviously out to a good start and other schools will be tough, but I think some people underestimated exactly what McDaniel has for talent and chemistry... and first year Head Coach Kevin Curley has already made an impression with the team and this region.

McDaniel gets Swarthmore on Wednesday at home.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 26, 2007, 01:54:33 pm
d-mac -

Thanks for the blog from Hopkins.  Sounds like McDaniel could be a legit contender this year.  The CC has gotten off to a relatively good start in non-conference play, which is good to see.  Conference play begins Wednesday night.

F&M looked up and down against Juniata.  The Dips' huge lead nearly evaporated due to a stagnant offense—the same thing that apparently plagued them at Lebanon Valley.  But it does look like the players want to be there this year, unlike last year.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: crambam on November 29, 2007, 08:24:52 am
Interesting win last night for the Dips.  At first I was happy to see them beat a team like Hopkins, but then I saw that JHU isn't exactly starting on fire themselves.  I saw the F&M defense was outstanding in the first half, but awful in the second.

Consistent offense. 

Is this team just streaky?  Obviously, I wouldn't expect any team to hold any other team to 12 points per half, but to give up 49 in the second half was awful. 

Still while a 3-2 start isn't great, it's better than last year, and it's a start. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 29, 2007, 11:13:32 am
Interesting win last night for the Dips. 

crambam,

Interesting is a good word.  The Dips were nearly flawless in the first half, then displayed a lack of killer instinct late in the game.  The Hopkins press created turnovers and allowed the Blue Jays to chip away late.  It might be natural to get comfortable with a 30-point lead, but the Dips have allowed each of their last four opponents to come back in games they controlled. 

It could be the result of five freshmen in the rotation, or it could be that this team just won't be able to finish.  Time will tell.  However, Sullivan looks like he could develop into a really good point guard.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on December 01, 2007, 08:33:15 pm
Huge win for Ursinus today. I wasn't at the game but it seems like this game was a statement on the road at G'Burg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 04, 2007, 08:41:00 pm
Sometimes, it seems to me, that the true statement a team can make comes after the holiday games are out of the way and they bear down on conference play.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on December 06, 2007, 09:27:28 am
Few observations from the UC-F&M game last night

UC
Very good guard play - Most times it seems like they are running a 4 guard set, with Shattuck and Noonan playing a guard/forward position

Lacking upfront presence - No go to person in the post, limited production coming from true big men on the team. This team could struggle when matched against an experienced and talented post player as the season moves on

As with most UC teams of the past, they try to get out and run whenever possible. It is a testament to Coach Small and his rotation of players that his team rarely seems tired and generally outhustles the opposition down the floor.

F&M
Seems like they have a very talented freshman in number 10. he has a very nice jump shot and could develop into a very legit scoring threat as the season goes on

The team seems a little bit slow and unathletic in transition. They generate very few fast break opportunities (at least compared to UC). Their rebounding advantage seemed only due to slight size advantage. I don't know if this is the norm in Coach Robinson's system but the it seemed like they run the shot clock down on most possessions (basically it takes them a long time to get the play developed). This might have been part of the gameplan however
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: heartofachampion on December 07, 2007, 04:12:51 pm
Running the clock is Grob's way...Even when we had guys like Duran Searles the shot clock would drop to under 10 almost every time.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on December 08, 2007, 04:36:54 pm
Nick Shattuck's performance in the 2nd half against Swarthmore was one for the highlight reel when reviewing the 2008 season (and I am sure there will be several more). Pre-printed ballots with Shattuck's name for Player of the Year will be distributed to all SIDs in case they have amnesia.  :D 

Question: has a player ever locked up POY this early in the season?  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on December 09, 2007, 12:32:18 pm
Forget the player of the year for now, is it too early to concede the championship to Ursinus. If Ursinus wins it as it already appears that they will, Shattuck is a lock. What Ursinus did to Gettysburg at Gettysburg was impressive. Haven't seen McDaniel yet but it may come down to Ursinus or McDaniel for the top 2 seeds. Gettysburg will still contend and the last 2 playoff spots seem wide open with Haverford, Muhlenberg, F&M, Hopkins and Dickinson legitimate contenders. Washington appears to be a year or 2 away and Swarthmore is off to a slow start which will be complicated even more by the injury to Turner.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 18, 2007, 06:19:00 pm
In looking at the schedule at least two week until a game is close enough to see.

Look like heading to F & M for a tourny game. How does F & M Look so far.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 19, 2007, 09:30:43 pm
Rumor has it that Alveria pulled out of F&M's tourney.  Does anyone know why?
F&M still looks inconsistent.  A lot of players are still trying to learn each other's abilities.  There seems to be a lot of potential.  Many of the freshmen seem promising, but still have a lot to learn.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Jon on December 20, 2007, 12:01:38 pm
Reserved Seat,

Not sure where that rumor comes from, but we at The Vern are still planning on playing at F&M.  We're not exactly rolling in there with crazy momentum, but we'll be there.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 22, 2007, 07:09:46 pm
Happy Holidays to all !!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 31, 2007, 06:31:06 pm
 To all have a safe and Happy New Year !!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 02, 2008, 09:56:36 pm
Dickinson 74  Caltech 47

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 02, 2008, 10:12:21 pm
Looks like it is going to be F & M  vs Alvernia at the F & M Tournament tomorrow night.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 03, 2008, 10:38:52 am
According to the article below, the Dips played without their two top scorers, Hines and Scovill, who were suspended for violating team rules.

http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/214553
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 03, 2008, 07:40:02 pm
Ursinus 69 -- Trinity(CT)  56
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 03, 2008, 08:47:54 pm
Looks like F & M is up 45 - 32 over Alvernia at the half
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 03, 2008, 09:05:40 pm
Moravian 67  Muhlenburg 52 Bragging rights in ABE area for Moravian.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 03, 2008, 09:13:39 pm
McDaniel 68 - St Marys of MD 48 ( sits along the Chesapeake bay)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 03, 2008, 09:41:18 pm
F & M wins thier tourney over Alvernia--

F & M 84--- Alvernia- 62
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 04, 2008, 12:26:09 pm
Chalk one up for the Conference with Ursinus beating Trinity (Ct.).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 04, 2008, 01:01:23 pm

Pat -

I just noticed the new heading on the home page. I don't know how long it has been up. However, it is a nice change and I think it looks great. Kudos to the person who did the design work.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 04, 2008, 01:23:08 pm
Thanks. Just since Jan. 1, so you haven't missed it for long.

Now D3hoops joins the other D3sports.com sites a little more in terms of visual look.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 05, 2008, 12:30:36 am
Since we have had some conference play let's see how good you can pick-em.

January 9  Conference record only next to teams.

Dickinson (1-2) @ Haverford (2-2)
F & M  (1-3) @ Swarthmore (0-4)
Washington (0-4) @ Gettysburg (3-1)
John Hopkins (2-2) @ Ursinus ( 4-0)
McDaniel (3-0) @ Muhlenberg (3-1)

Have fun with it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 05, 2008, 12:32:34 am
I will update and keep a record posted for all to see.

My Picks

Haverford
F & M
Gettysburg
Ursinus
McDaniel
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 05, 2008, 12:36:04 pm
Chalk one up for the Conference with Ursinus beating Trinity (Ct.).

I agree, that was just as big for the CC as it was for Ursinus.  The conference needed a win like that.  Can Ursinus ride that momentum to 20+ wins?

Another story to watch is F&M's lineup change.  With Hines and Scovill (top two scorers) suspended, the Dips rolled to a pair of convincing wins over Southern Va. and Alvernia.  Now that their suspensions are over, will Robinson reinsert them into the starting lineup?  Or will he attempt to keep the chemistry alive with a young lineup that plays well together, bringing Hines and Scovill off the bench?  I don't think you mess with success.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 05, 2008, 10:02:18 pm
Old ends. Your picks seem likely to do well.
Just to see if some pick-them interest can develop, I'll offer mine too.

Haverford
F&M
G-berg
Ursinus
Muhlenburg (An upset I wouldn't thought to be one at start of season)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 05, 2008, 10:49:29 pm
Well, Suetonius, I hope so.. I think the students may not yet be back on campus. Just want to get some action on this board.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 06, 2008, 08:12:04 am
Old ends. I stuck with the Mules because even with few students around Memorial Hall is a tough place to come in & shoot well. Plus Allentown is one of the toughest places places in the league to come in & get the calls needed to get out of town with a win. Collegeville is also just as difficult in the same way. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 06, 2008, 11:56:17 am
My 1/9/08 picks are:

Haverford
Swarthmore
Gettysburg
Ursinus
McDaniel

I picked Swarthmore in an upset over F&M because I would like to see more postings from the "old F&M fans who live in the past" explaining what went wrong from the players to the coaching, and everything else from A to Z.

I have always felt Swarthmore under achieves, and I can't figure out why. With Ian McCormick in the middle, I expect more from Swarthmore. It seems that they don't have the killer instinct, and tend to fold near the end of a game.

Finally, I am a Bears fan and I see the Bears achieving the same level of success in CC as the New England Patriots - "undefeated"

Old Ends, are you offering free tickets to the CC playoffs to the one who has the best record in predicting CC games ?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 06, 2008, 08:05:51 pm
Dickinson
F & M
Gettysburg
Ursinus
Muhlenberg

F&M is starting to jell.  Hopefully, they can build on their tournament success.  The competition was overwhelming, but it gave the young players a chance to build some confidence, especially without their two statisical leaders.  Chasen showed excellent leadership for the younger players.
It's hard to pick against McDaniel.  They seem to have a lot of experienc;, and despite the preseason prediction, they should give any team in the conference a challenge.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 07, 2008, 09:01:47 am
Old Ends, are you offering free tickets to the CC playoffs to the one who has the best record in predicting CC games ?


Let me think about that. thought long enought naaa :D

Maybe a gift card to a cheap fast food place.   ;D


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 07, 2008, 09:47:51 am
I'll take a gift card from a fast food place as long as it is not in Lancaster, PA.  :D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 07, 2008, 10:29:02 pm
So far Gettysburg and Ursinus have been picked by everyone the rest are up for grabs.

good luck to those who have thier picks in so far.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pantherdunker on January 08, 2008, 09:11:48 am
For the well being of the young men on the F and M team, I wish them continued success. Obviously, there are issues when 2 kids quit the team this year and 2 are suspended. I hope the other kids rise above, come together, learn how to play without feeling like they are walking on eggshells and looking over their shoulders to see if they will get yanked. Good luck.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 08, 2008, 08:03:53 pm
I will post Saturday's 1/12/08 pick-em games Tomorrow night and post results of the 1/9 pick-em on Thursday. Still room for more to get in.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 09, 2008, 02:26:44 pm
My picks:

Haverford
F&M
Ursinus
Muhlenberg
Gettysburg

Really tempted to pick Swat, but F&M is coming off a couple of decisive wins.  I'm going with Seutonius on the Mules over the Terror.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 09, 2008, 06:56:57 pm
Well the games are underway and I will post the results tomorrow, but lets start to look at Saturday's games.

1/12/2008 pick-em

Muhlenberg     @    Gettysburg
Haverford        @    John Hopkins
Ursinus   @      McDaniel
Washington     @    F & M
Swarthmore     @    Dickinson

You may have missed last week but there is still time to get in on the Pick-em's.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 09, 2008, 07:38:24 pm
Here is an update( upset).

Dickinson 51--- Haverford 50

Dickinson -- Leszcynski 21 points--Kenny 14 rebounds
Haverford-- Fratangelo 15 points

Big thing I saw on the stats--- Free Throws-- Dickinson 8 for 8  Haverford 5 of 10. Make 2 more and you win the game.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 10, 2008, 12:42:55 pm
My Saturday picks are:

Gettysburg (The Mules will discover thet aren't in Kansas, well Allentown anymore)
JHU: in a tough one at home
McDaniel: Green Terrors better rebound for me in my shakiest pick
F & M: Young Dips like McNally, Baker, Ryner, Sullivan et al may be coming of age in time
SWAT: upset just because the CC is very balanced & improved & there should be upsets regularly



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 10, 2008, 05:17:01 pm
Saturday's picks

Gettysburg
John Hopkins
McDaniel
F & M
Dickinson

Should be a good day for the home teams.
Swarthmore could upset Dickinson.  They got too emotional against F&M, possibly costing them the game.  Their whining about calls caused one technical and could have caused some more.
McDaniel could pull off the upset at home.  They have the experience that could beat Ursinus.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 10, 2008, 06:01:32 pm
Results for 1/9/08 Pick-ems

Reserved Seat------------ 5 - 0        Perfect, good job
Suetonius------------------ 4 - 1
R.W. McNickels------------ 4 - 1
Old Ends-------------------- 3 - 2
Leo---------------------------2 - 3

The Dickinson/Haverford, only Reserved Seat used his knowledge(I hope) to see that one.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 10, 2008, 06:13:17 pm
Pick-em's for 1/12
Muhlenberg - the battle of the berg's(burg's)
John Hopkins- home team advantage
Ursinus- I think they go clean in the conference
F & M - always tough at home
Dickinson- only because they are at home and coming of the type of victory that could give them an edge

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 11, 2008, 02:46:29 pm
Picks for 1/12:

Gettysburg
Hopkins
Ursinus
F&M
Swarthmore
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 11, 2008, 02:57:11 pm
Around the Nation this week of particular interest to readers of this message board:
http://www.d3hoops.com/nation/
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 11, 2008, 04:27:22 pm
Well, since you are promoting... for anyone who missed Hoopsville last Sunday:
www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/coachscorner.html is worth a check as well :)!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 12, 2008, 10:19:05 am
1/12 picks:

Johns Hopkins
Gettysburg
Ursinus
Dickinson
F&M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 12, 2008, 10:49:29 am
Well, since you are promoting... for anyone who missed Hoopsville last Sunday:
www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/coachscorner.html is worth a check as well :)!
Around the Nation this week of particular interest to readers of this message board:
http://www.d3hoops.com/nation/

Both were interesting.  A few quotes surprised me - not sure I've ever heard Robinson admit he needs to be more patient.  For his own health (given the last two seasons), that might be a good thing.

He also estimates that seven teams could win the CC.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 12, 2008, 05:51:24 pm
Results for 1/12 Pick-em's

r.w. McNickels ----------------- 5 -  0 Perfect Good Job
Reserved Seat ---------------- 4 -  1
Leo --------------------------- 4 -  1
Old Ends ------------------------ 4 - 1
suetonius ----------------------- 4 - 1

Overall
Reserved Seat  9 - 1
r.w. McNickels   9 - 1
suetonius         7 - 3
Old Ends          7 - 3
Leo                 6 - 4
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 12, 2008, 05:56:32 pm
Pick-Em's for 1/16/08

Gettysburg  @ Swarthmore
Muhlenberg @ John Hopkins
Haverford    @  F & M
McDaniel      @ Washington
Dickinson     @ Ursinus

Good Luck to all this week..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 13, 2008, 08:04:22 pm
Check out the stats from 1/10 for your favorite team

click here: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 14, 2008, 05:12:37 pm
Pick-Em's for 1/16/08

Gettysburg  @ Swarthmore
Muhlenberg @ John Hopkins
Haverford    @  F & M
McDaniel      @ Washington
Dickinson     @ Ursinus

Good Luck to all this week..

My Picks for Weds 1/16

Gettysberg
John Hopkins
F & M
McDaniel
Ursinus

Good Luck to all
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 14, 2008, 08:51:13 pm
Picks for 1/16

Gettysburg
John Hopkins
F & M
McDaniel
Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 14, 2008, 09:20:51 pm
My 1/16 picks are:

G-burg SWAT upset not out of the question
JHU Evenly matched but Mules need home cooking
Haverford Hunch young Dips may not be ready for Chaz & Co.
Washington College Sho'man may shock the CC world, am impressed with their last 2 road efforts
Ursinus Solid shellacking likely to be handed to Devils


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 15, 2008, 06:58:03 am
Home court rules for 1/16:

Swarthmore
Hopkins
F&M
Washington
Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 15, 2008, 09:00:56 am
1/13/08 top 25 poll from D3HOOPS.COM gives recognition to Ursinus with 9 votes in the "Others Receiving Votes." I don't think they would crack the top 25 unless they go undefeated the rest of the way.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 15, 2008, 05:14:27 pm
I will post the 19th's games tomorrow and the results of tomorrows games on Thursday.


Leo, I have to agree with you. Ursinus's win over Trinity did help a little, but the conference is not strong enough yet for them to get to be ranked higher.

Suetonics, great remarks after picks as usual.

good luck to all.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 16, 2008, 03:37:36 pm
1/16 picks:

Ursinus
Gettysburg
F&M
McDaniel
Muhlenberg

Not sure about picking three road wins.  Gettysburg is playing well with two impact players (Capkin and Dorsey) in addition to Spierenburg and Powers up front.  McDaniel is back on track after yesterday's blowout of Dickinson. 

The Mules have lost three straight on the road to very good teams (Randolph-Macon, Moravian, Gettysburg) and could be poised for a win in Baltimore.

old ends - thanks for organizing this and getting some chatter going.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 16, 2008, 08:11:42 pm
Games for Saturday 1/19/08 pick-em's

McDaniel      @    Haverford
Gettysburg  @    Ursinus
Muhlenberg  @   F & M
John Hopkins @  Swarthmore
Washington  @  Dickinson

Thanks r.w. I have enjoyed the banter and doing this also.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 17, 2008, 10:45:51 am
My picks for 1/19 are:

Ursinus
Hopkins
Haverford
F&M
Dickinson

Special Note: Gettysburg and Ursinus should be a great game. Gettysburg will certainly have revenge from their embarrassing loss at home to the Bears. The keys to the game will be rebounding (Bears got to do a better job on the boards) and turnovers (Bears got to take care of the ball and be under 13 turnovers). Hopefully, the Bears tenacious defense and pressure on the player with the ball will lead to several fast breaks and easy baskets. If Gettysburg wins, then I would like to get 1/2 point for calling the upset  :D All teams go through a stretch where they are playing so so, and ripe for the taking of a win. However, I believe the Bears will be "up to the challenge", play to their abilities and come out of their doldrums to win the game. Go Bears Go   :)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 17, 2008, 11:20:37 am
1/19 picks

Haverford: Chaz due for big game in must win situation
Ursinus: Bears should withstand challenge at home
F&M: tough game expected, young Dips could throw dud in at any time
SWAT: Jays have had issues in Garnet Dome in past
Dickinson: Playing much better than I thought they would, Kline Center should make the difference Saturday

I am not a believer in F&M yet this year, am afraid they will falter on the next road trips. However Baker (impressive freshman, maybe the best player on the team), McNally is polished and good and Ryner looks like a potential CC 1st team player within 2 years. Dips are doing this without they expected contribution level of Scovill who has obvious talent. If all these players come back & stay healthy I suggest that Dips may find themselves near the top of the CC by next year. Any thoughts?



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 17, 2008, 06:20:21 pm
Picks for Saturday

Haverford-played tough against F&M, but Chaz couldn't get the ball during the second half and had to
                force his scores when he had the ball
Ursinus-only because they're at home
F & M-close game the first time at Muhlenberg, but F&M has a new look--youthful errors still possibly
John Hopkins
Dickinson-hardest one to pick, haven't seen Dickinson play

F&M has a lot of raw talent, but they're still learning to play together.  Baker looks like the real thing.  He has a nice touch from the key and a soft hook around the basket.  McNally has the potential to be another strong underneath presence.  Brooks has the athleticism to make spectatular plays, but needs to learn to play within himself.  Rhyner has been phenomenal since his entry into the starting line-up.  He made a lot of key shots against Haverford.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2008, 07:19:52 pm
Results for 1/16/08 Pick-em's

Leo----------------4 - 1
suetonius----------4 - 1
Reserved Seat-----4 - 1
r.w. mcnickels-----3 - 2
old ends-----------4 -  1

Overall

Reserved Seat-------13 - 2
r.w. mcnickels--------12 - 3
suetonius-------------11 - 4
Old ends--------------11 - 4
Leo ------------------10 - 5

Ursinus was the only unanimous pick for 1/16/08. We all had our tough game this week. It is still a tight race overall.

Good Luck for 1/19/08
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2008, 07:47:00 pm
Picks for 1/19

Haverford-- home team adv.
Muhlenberg-- I think they have F & M's number
Swarthmore--Hopkins may be tired after 3 o/t victory against Muhlenberg
Dickinson--Kline Center- Devils Den, what ever, tough at home for this one.
Ursinus- I think they are that good - period.

I always like to study the stats because they do show trends.

Leo look at this-- I think your right about the game at Collegeville.

Scoring offense  Ave/Game

Ursinus--- 74.9
Gettysberg-74.6
F & M ---- 74.5

Also
Scoring Defense
Haverford --- 57.5 Ave/game

Free Throws %

Gettysberg --- 74%
John Hopkins--72%

That  is the one thing that players tend to over look. It is a free shot at the basket. No one in front of your face no pressure. Just bend your knee's and pull the shade down. Coach's grind thier teeth with every missed free throw

View the rest of the stats here: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 17, 2008, 08:56:52 pm
Gentlemen -

Over the years, the F&M-Muhlenburg series has been very much in the home team's favor - Dips rarely win in Allentown and Mules have a hard time in Lancaster.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 17, 2008, 08:58:29 pm
Old Ends -

I have been out of town (and away from D3hoops for a couple of weeks. Any chance I can get in the pick-em in midstream? Please advise. Thanks.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 17, 2008, 09:14:42 pm
Old Ends, I too look at the stat sheets and it doesn't look good at this time for the Bears when it comes to taking care of the boards. Now on the other hand, the Bears play great defense and shoot the ball well (FGs, FTs and even 3P-FGs).

The last 3 games, the Bears were outrebounded overall, and had a tough time defending their own boards. All 3 games were close.

vs. Dickinson  41-27 outrebounded, 18-9 offensive boards in favor of Dickenson
vs. Mcdaniel  36-28 Bears won the boards, but McDaniel was 15-6 on offensive boards in their favor
vs. Hopkins  50-36 outrebounded, 16-3 offensive boards in favor of Hopkins
vs. Trinity (Ct) - they held their own

When Bears spanked Gettysburg on their home court, they won the boards 40-27 and had a 7-5 ad for offensive boards.

The graduation of Furey and Fabian has hurt them greatly, but the sophs and juniors have really stepped up to the plate and played very consistently. And as usual, Coach Small's teams play excellent defense.

Home court is nice to have now, and Shema needs to have a good game and stay out of foul trouble.

I think this game will be a warm-up for both teams as they play each other again for the CC championship game.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 18, 2008, 11:02:11 am
Old Ends -

I have been out of town (and away from D3hoops for a couple of weeks. Any chance I can get in the pick-em in midstream? Please advise. Thanks.

Eric


Of course you can. The more the better.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 18, 2008, 12:55:11 pm
Old Ends, et. al -

Thanks. Here goes nothing - my first attempt at the pick-ems (for 1/19):

McDaniel @ Haverford   -   Haverford. The Fords are usually much better at home and due for a big win.

Gettysburg @ Ursinus   -   Gettysburg. A real toss-up here but stats suggest a Bullet win on the road.

Muhlenberg @ Franklin And Marshall - F&M. See comments of previous post. Besides, Dips are a different more experienced team than in first meeting. I am going to try to get to Mayser Center for tis one.

Johns Hopkins @ Swarthmore - JHU. Blue Jays are getting better as season goes along. Just expected the Garnet to be better this season than their current record.

Washington @ Dickinson - Dickinson. Red Devils should outrebound (and outscore) the Shoremen. Devils always tough to play in Kline Center.

Any thoughts? Regards to all. Good luck.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 18, 2008, 07:49:43 pm
Love the comments from everyone, keep them coming. Also let people know about the pick-em's. I am glad we have a good response so far.

Bonus pick-em ( $1 monopoly money gift card. Which can be used just about no where)

Monday 1/21/08

Philadelphia Biblical   @   Swarthmore

other games of interest this weekend.

NYG     @    GBP
SDC    @   NEP

As the  prize indicates. Just have fun with the above pick-em's.

have fun and good luck.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 18, 2008, 08:05:48 pm
Here is somthing impressive about the Conference overall:

NCAA  Scoring defense across the nation Centennial have 5 teams in the top 75
Haverford------- 7th
Dickinson------- 45th
Muhlenburg------ 50th
McDaniel --------51st
John Hopkins---- 67th

Check the rest out here: http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 19, 2008, 10:24:27 am
1/19 picks:

Gettysburg
Johns Hopkins
Haverford
F&M
Dickinson

Gettysburg returns the favor in Collegeville behind a big game Dorsey.

Swat might pick up CC win #1 today, but McCormick needs more help than he got in Baltimore last month.  JHU in a close one.

Haverford returns almost everyone from last year's squad that played for the CC title - it's time for the Fords to start playing like it.

F&M and Dickinson at home.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 20, 2008, 11:53:54 am
Results for 1/19/08 Pick-em

Leo ---------------4 - 1
Reserved Seat-----4 - 1
Suetonius---------3 - 2
r.w.mcnickels------3 - 2
Dipomaniac1------3 - 2
Old ends --------2 - 3

Overall

Reserved Seat -------- 17 - 3
r.w.mcnickels-----------15 - 5
Suetonius--------------14 - 6
Leo -------------------14 - 6
Old Ends---------------13 - 7
Diplomaniac1 -----------3 - 2

Haverford was a unanimous pick for all of us, which cost each of us a loss.  It is still a tight race overall which is good to see. 

Good luck next week and do not forget the bonus pickem above.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 20, 2008, 12:05:21 pm
1/23/08 Pick-em's

McDaniel      @    John Hopkins
Ursinus        @    Haverford
Washington @   Swarthmore
F & M            @  Gettysburg
Dickinson      @  Muhlenberg

Again, will post results 1/24 and 1/26 games on 1/23.

Thanks, are ya having fun yet??

Look back for bonus pick of the week.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 20, 2008, 12:07:24 pm
Bonus pick-em ( $1 monopoly money gift card. Which can be used just about no where)

Monday 1/21/08

Philadelphia Biblical   @   Swarthmore

other games of interest this weekend.

NYG     @    GBP
SDC    @   NEP

As the  prize indicates. Just have fun with the above pick-em's.

have fun and good luck.

Swarthmore Got to go with the Conference team
GBP
NEP

worth a shot
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 20, 2008, 05:33:04 pm
Old Ends -

Here's my 1/21 pick em - Swarthmore.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 20, 2008, 05:50:55 pm
Does the bonus pick count in the conference picks?
Since I know nothing about Philadelphia Bible, I pick Swarthmore.  They deserve a win, and they represent the conference.
I see my luck is still holding.  With a different outcome in the two overtime games, my picks wouldn't look as good.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 20, 2008, 10:00:55 pm
1/21 pick

SWAT over PBC: on the comparative scores Garnet should win easily, don't trust them totally, but they may squeek it out (? OT)

1/23 picks

JHU in a close one
Ursinus floods the Fords
WC stifles SWAT
G-burg young Dips ? without Scovill can't dodge Bullets
Muhlenburg as Mules buck Devils & welcome a return home

I caught the second half of Dip-Mule contest, F&M fortunate to win, but I would have to now say perhaps McNally is the best player on the Dip team. His play was clutch & impressive. I havn't seen play approaching that from an F&M front court frosh since Terry Scott (any old-timers remember him?). Could McNally be another Dip All-American? But I don't recall Scott taking over a game on both ends like this until his Soph year in the way I saw Saturday.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 21, 2008, 11:06:59 am
1/21 pick:
Swarthmore

Suetonius, I agree with you on McNally.  Once he started backing guys down, he took over the game.  Back in November a Williams poster came on and mentioned McNally as a great recruit - I think they went to the same high school.  Anyway, I was really skeptical because he didn't look great in the first few games.  I don't know if we've seen enough of him yet to start comparing him to Terry Scott, but he looks like a nice pickup for the Dips.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplofan on January 21, 2008, 12:04:00 pm
Saturday's three point win over Muhlenberg marked the first time that F&M had won a game decided by five points or less since February 8, 2006. The Dips were 0-9 in such games in 2006-07 and had been 0-3 in them this year prior to Saturday. It looks like this young squad may be finding ways to win, rather than lose, close games. We'll soon see with stiffer conference competition looming.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 21, 2008, 02:13:46 pm
Certainly a good sign for F&M.

Welcome aboard, by the way.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 21, 2008, 02:55:43 pm
Does the bonus pick count in the conference picks?
Na-- just for fun. If it were two conference teams maybe then, but Phila Bible is a down the road type of game.
Did it just to keep activity going on the board.

Diplofan-- good post, join the pick-em's, never to late. Suetonius nice observation.
I see my luck is still holding.  With a different outcome in the two overtime games, my picks wouldn't look as good.

And mine the other way, if I could borrow your luck.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 21, 2008, 03:21:31 pm
Here is a nice article about the F & M - Muhlenberg game in the Lancaster Sunday Paper.
http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/215405

And a recap of Dickinson- Washington's o/t game:
http://www.cumberlink.com/articles/2008/01/20/sports/sports651.txt

Also the Stats including this weekends games are below:
http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Ursinus still leadnig in scoring offense pulling ahead more so thenn last weeks stats.

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 21, 2008, 03:24:21 pm
John Hopkins--McDaniel has seemed to lost their early season success-other teams taking them
                      seriously
Ursinus--too much for Haverford to handle
Swarthmore--one for the home team
F & M--time to see if they have jelled enough to take on the upper teams
Muhlenberg--due for a win after two tough losses
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 22, 2008, 05:42:49 pm
Sometimes, it seems, that you look at the stats and go with the logical. Some I forgetting about this past weekend and trying a different systems.

1/23/08 picks

Hopkins
Ursinus-- still think they can sweep the Conference
Swarthmore- they need one in the conference
F & M -- Young guns have nothing but experience to gain
Muhlenberg- Just time I guess

Will post results 1/24.
Will post 1/26 games tomorrow night

thanks and good luck
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 22, 2008, 05:50:45 pm
All those who picked Swarthmore for th 1/21 pick-em fun game, Got it right
Swarthmore 82-- Phila Bible 41

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 22, 2008, 08:46:38 pm
1/23 picks:

Muhlenberg
Gettysburg
Ursinus (will spank Haverford to avenge last year's semi-finals defeat)
Hopkins
Swarthmore (they are a roll now)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 23, 2008, 12:32:51 am
1/23 picks:

Muhlenberg - Mules should enjoy returning to the confines of Memorial Hall
Gettysburg - By about seven over F&M.  Young Dips just aren't ready for prime time, and they might still be without Scovill.
Ursinus - Bears in a razor close finish at Haverford.
Johns Hopkins - Jays continue to find ways to win tight games.
Swarthmore - Big game expected from McCormick.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 23, 2008, 11:08:47 am

Gentlemen -

1/23 Picks:

McDaniel @ Hopkins:   Hopkins. Should be a tough close game. Game is hard to call. Arrington out for McDaniel and Hopkins is improving thoughout the season. Jays always tough at home. Slight edge to Coach Nelson and the Jays.

Ursinus @ Haverford:   Ursinus. I can't help but wonder if the Fords will ever live up to their pre-season potential this year. I think they are a very good team but their record doesn't show that. I keep expecting more from them.

Washington @ Swarthmore:   Swarthmore. The Garnet are due for a big win and they are much better than their record indicaates.

F&M @ Gettysburg:   Gettysburg. I really wanted to go with my heart here, but the Bullets are the the more logical choice of my brain. I don't know what Scovill's status is. They willl really miss is offense if he cant go. Although the young Dips are steadily improving, they haven't demonstrated an ability to win on the road yet. Bream is always a tough place for the Dips to play.

Good luck and regards to all!

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 23, 2008, 05:46:37 pm
I can't help but wonder if the Fords will ever live up to their pre-season potential this year. I think they are a very good team but their record doesn't show that. I keep expecting more from them.

Eric-

Couldn't agree more.  I thought the Fords would win 17 or 18 games this year.  They still might surprise some people, maybe even tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 23, 2008, 07:12:54 pm

1/23 Pick -

forgot to include the Dickinson@ Muhlenberg game - Dickinson.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 23, 2008, 07:39:14 pm
1/26/08 Pick-em's

F & M                   @    McDaniel
Haverford              @   Gettysburg
Washington           @    Muhlenberg
Dickinson              @    John Hopkins
Swarthmore          @     Ursinus

Good Luck...

for 1/23

Look Like Hopkins and Ursinus were the only teams picked by everyone-- so therefore we could have me slip even down more in the rankings.

have fun
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 24, 2008, 10:13:15 am
1/26 picks

Hopkins
McDaniel
Gettysburg
Muhlenberg
Ursinus

This weekend set of games appears the easiest to pick except for F&M vs McDaniels. Could go either way, but home court tends to rule.

We are half way thru the season, and I was wondering if there have been any surprises - good or bad. As for me, I am surprised about Haverford and Swarthmore. I expected their record to be better. McCormack at Swarthmore does not have enough weapons around him. But last night's win should be positive for the rest of the schedule because McCormack fouled out and Swartmore didn't have him for the 2OT and most of the 1st OT. This may give confidence to the rest of the team. As for Haverford, I expected Chaz to do more and compete for POY with Shattuck. As for Gettysburg, Dorsey is struggling and I expected the team to compete better even though they got spanked by the Bears twice. So let's see what the 2nd half of the season brings  ::)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 24, 2008, 10:53:41 am
Picks for 1/26:

McDaniel: F&M may contend but after dropping battle to Gburg am not sure the are ready for Antietam

G-burg: Fords appearance at Bream could work out as well as Pickett's

M-berg: Mules stubborn on home tiles

Dickinson: Upset over JHU as a guess

Ursinus: Give SWAT less chance than a tired salmon vs a hungry Kodiak







Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 24, 2008, 02:42:28 pm
Suetonics--can you say P.U.N.

Great stuff.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 24, 2008, 02:50:43 pm
Results for 1/23/08 pick-em's

Leo-                      4 - 1
r.w.mcnickels          4 - 1
Suetonius               3 - 2
Reserved Seat   -     3 - 2
Diplomaniac1           3 - 2
Old ends                 3 - 2

Overall

Reserved Seat   --     20 - 5
r.w. mcnickels          19 - 6
Leo                        18 - 7
Suetonius                17 - 8
Old Ends                  16 - 9
Diplomanic1              6 - 4

Well the Hopkins game got each and everyone of us..So much for a sure thing..

Very tight race overall and that makes the pickings harder and harder every time. Except for myself who again must make a change.. Maybe back to the Stats..or a coin.

keep having fun with this..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 24, 2008, 09:32:20 pm
F & M--I continue to live/die picking F&M(42 years of following them causes blindness to others)
Gettysburg--hard to get a shot off inside
Muhlenberg--home court advantage
John Hopkins--can't say it's home court advantage because everytime I've been there they have few
                       fans
Ursinus--too much for Swarthmore to handle

Gettysburg took advantage of F&M inexperience.  Fast breaks and backdoor plays killed F&M.  Spierenburg's presence under the basketball stopped F&M from getting the ball inside.
The fouls were unfortunately disportionate(19-9).  F&M never got to the bonus.
Rhyner's 3-point shots keep the game close, and Selig played a terrific game.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 25, 2008, 10:30:45 am
My grading of the teams performance for the 1st half of the CC season:

Dickenson    -  C
F&M    -  B
Gettysburg   -  C
Haverford   -  D
JH   -  B/B+
McDaniel   -  B
Muhlenberg   -  C
Swarthmore   -  D
Ursinus   -  A
Washington   - D

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 25, 2008, 11:48:12 am
I think Gettysburg should be in the B+ range.  The Bullets are 12-3.  They've only lost to Ursinus (14-2) and Cal Lutheran (13-2).  The Ursinus losses were really bad ones, but I don't think you can give them a "C" based on that.

On another note, will Ursinus lose in conference play?  I expected them to maybe go 14-4 in the CC, but not run the table like this.  Hilton and Noonan have been huge, and Shattuck is probably the best player in the region.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 25, 2008, 12:05:49 pm
Perhaps I am too harsh on Gettysburg, but I expected more from them in terms of dominating their games. Now all that could change if Dorsey improves his game. Alright McNickels, let me put in a grade change to a B, but not a B+.

No doubt Noonan and Hilton have been huge players in the Bears success for now. The team"s pressure defense on the ball is better this year, and their ball movement on offense to get an open shot has been the biggest improvement. Shema is playing well too.  I am rooting for the Bears to go undefeated in the Conference, but I do think there may be 1 loss somewhere down the road.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 25, 2008, 05:13:44 pm
Picks  for 1/26/08

McDaniel
Gettysburg
Muhlenberg
John Hopkins
Ursinus

Going with the homers on all the picks..gotta try something.
I have not yet been able to get to a game only because I am in FL right now. Us old people need to keep our bones warm. I have been reading your post on insite and papers for the presses view. The stats show how good a team and or player is doing, but it is not seeing it live. I will catch a few games when I get back and hope to attend the playoffs.

have fun
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 25, 2008, 06:08:50 pm

Old Ends -

I might suggest a different presentation of the pick-em standings that makes it easier to compare the records of late entrants (like myself) with the records of you folks that have been making picks since early this year. It is as follows:

Reserved Seat      -      20-5 (.800)
R. W. McNickels     -      19-6 (.760)
Leo                       -      18-7 (.720)
Suetonius             -      17-8 (.680)
Old Ends               -      16-9 (.640)
Diplomaniac1        -        3-2 (.600)

Just food for thought.



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 25, 2008, 06:31:55 pm
diplomaniac1:

good idea an therefore it will be done. thanks
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 25, 2008, 08:13:34 pm

Old Ends -

Thanks for accepting my suggestion on reporting the pick-em standings.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 25, 2008, 08:33:16 pm

Leo, Sutonius, Rserved Seat, and Old Ends -

Here are my picks for 1/26:

Dickinson @ Hopkins   -   Hopkins. I think this is a close game that is hard to call, However, I don't expect the Jays to dive-bomb twice in a row at home!

F&M @ McDaniel   -   F&M. Another tough one to pick. Although the Gill Center is a tough place to win, Dips are due to win on the road and played a very tough close game against the Bullets at Bream. It can only help to improve their confidence for the rest of the season. Might be a mild upset. Besides, I am picking with my heart on this one since I have been following GRob and the Dips since 1977!

Haverford @ Gettysburg   -   Will the Fords ever get it together? If the Fords were playing better, I might have taken them against the Bullets after Wednesday night's tough contest against the Dips. However, the advantage goes to the Bullets in Bream - they won't be shooting blanks!

Washington @ Muhlenberg   -   Mules kick the Shoreman at home! The old arena is always tough on visitors to Allentown.

Swarthmore @ Ursinus   -   The Garnet will be mauled by the Golden Bears! Although Swat is much better than their record, I don't see how this one will even be close.

I am going to try to catch the Dips game in Westminster - only about a three hour and twenty minute drive for me! Have we heard anything yet from R. W. McNickles? Good luck to all. Regards,

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 25, 2008, 08:44:36 pm


Leo, Suetonius, Reserved Seat, Old Ends, and R. W. -

In my humble opinion, here is how I would grade the Centennial teams so far this season:

Ursinus            -      A
Gettysburg      -      B+/A-
McDaniel          -      B+
F&M                 -      B/B+
Hopkins           -      B-
Muhlenberg     -      C/C+
Dickinson         -     C
Washington     -      D+
Swarthmore     -      D
Haverford        -      D/D-

Any thoughts? Comments and feedback welcome. Regards to all.

Eric




Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 25, 2008, 10:54:01 pm
1/26 picks:

Johns Hopkins
McDaniel
Haverford
Muhlenberg
Ursinus

Eric, I wasn't sure about F&M-McDaniel either.  I just don't see the Dips winning at Gill.  I think they'll eventually win a big one on the road, but who knows.  Let us know what you think if you make it to Westminster.

I could see F&M sweeping the rest at Mayser and not winning a single road contest from here out.  There are no gimmies, even at Chestertown.

I'm picking Haverford in Bream because I think it's time for Chaz to go off.  Might as well spice things up.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 26, 2008, 12:38:02 pm
Good stuff thanks.

Seems Muhlenberg and Ursinus are the teams that all of us picked... I thought I read that McDaniel lost a player for the rest of the year because of an injury will try to find that artical.

Enjoy the games today.. wish we had someone from each team posting here.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 26, 2008, 12:55:16 pm
The link below will show players of the week and honor roll for that week plus
other nice stuff to look at.
http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2008/CC_MBK_121.pdf

Stats are also posted for games thru the 24th. Ursinus still leads on scoring offense and Haverford on scoring defense.

Haverford is at the bottom on scoring offense which could be part of thier problem this year. Here is the link
http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2008/CC_MBK_121.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 26, 2008, 06:52:09 pm
Results of 1/26/08 pick-em's

Leo ------------ 5 - 0
Old Ends --------5 - 0
suetonius -------4 - 1
dipomaniac1---   4 - 1
Reserved Seat-  4 - 1
r.w.mcnickels----4 - 1

Leo and I went with the homers and got a perfect score. Makes my day, after falling on my face last week.

Overall

Reserved Seat --------- 24 - 6  ( .800)
Leo-------------------- 23 - 7 ( .767)
r.w.mcnickels------------23 - 7 ( .767)
suetonius--------------- 21 - 9 ( .700)
old ends-----------------21 - 9 ( .700)
diplomaniac1------------10 - 5 ( .667)

It has really got tight after this week. 8 games to go and I could still drop to the bottom.

I am enjoying this I hope all of you are.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 26, 2008, 06:58:52 pm
Pick-em's for 1/30/08

F & M           @  Dickinson
Gettysburg   @  McDaniel
Swarthmore  @ Haverford
John Hopkins @ Washington
Muhlenberg   @ Ursinus

Good luck !!

Saturday's results are on page 41
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 26, 2008, 07:04:19 pm
Great day for the home teams.
F&M almost pulled it out.  Fouls again hurt.(26 to 18)  Turnovers, also, seem to be a problem.
Swarthmore gave Ursinus a run for their money.
I don't understand how Ursinus can rout Gettysburg twice and have tough games with most of the rest in the conference.  Margin of victories against Gettysburg--25/30.  Margin of victories against the rest--9/9/5/7/3/30/3/21.
Already studying my picks for Wednesday.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 26, 2008, 11:02:53 pm
1/30 picks

F&M: This is Dips most likely upset road steal, OT filibuster loss wouldn't stun me
McDaniel: Coin flip in back yard skirmish
SWAT: Home court means little in this rivalry
Washington College: Sho'man may reel in home win
Ursinus: Bears roll at home, margin could be 2 or 50
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 29, 2008, 05:27:34 pm
Picks for 1/30/08

Dickinson-- Just feel the home, students are all back, could go the other way also.
McDaniel-- They played F&M and Hopkins tough at home
Haverford-- Coin toss
Hopkins-- No coin needed
Ursinus-- Not this week at home..

Good luck to all!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 29, 2008, 06:12:59 pm
My Picks

F & M-due to win after 2 close games
Gettysburg--strong inside presence
Haverford--who knows
John Hopkins--too much for Washington
Ursinus--home
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 29, 2008, 07:47:38 pm
I always enjoy this site for Centennial Conference stats and game recaps..Click on the link find your favorite player or school and make notes for Saturdays pickem.

http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2008/CC_MBK_128.pdf

As has been the norm. Will post Saturday's 2/2/08( Groundhog Day) tomorrow and the the results for Wednesday's game on Thursday.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 29, 2008, 08:23:21 pm
1/30 picks:

Dickinson
Gettysburg
Haverford
Johns Hopkins
Ursinus

This could be the most challenging group of picks so far.  I don't trust F&M outside the Dip Dome.  Gettysburg has the bullets to win in Westminster.  Haverford is a guess.  Hopkins usually plays well in Chestertown.  Muhlenberg has the defense to hang with Ursinus, but the Bears should win by a small margin.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on January 30, 2008, 06:48:59 am
Picks for 1/30:

F&M (to help my fellow colleagues)
McDaniel (will be hungrier than Gettys and they are at home)
Haverford ( I flipped the coin 10 times and came up Haverford 6 times)
Hopkins
Ursinus


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 30, 2008, 10:06:33 am

Folks -

Here are my selections for the 1/30 Pick-ems:

F&M @ Dickinson     -     F&M. I agree that Dips are due for road win and will dunk the Red Devils. The McDaniel game was there for the taking by the Dips, but they just couldn't get the job done. Should be a close game. I think there is a slight edge for the Dips due to their inside game.

Gettysburg @ McDaniel     -     McDaniel. Another tough game to pick - should be a close one. Perhaps I should have tossed a coin in choosing! Slight edge to the Green Terror at home. Based on what I saw on Saturday, they might be too physical for the Bullets.

Swarthmore @ Haverford     -    Haverford. Another coin flip. I look for a big game from Chazz and company at home. Thus, the Fords will turn the Garnet blue!

Hopkins @ Washington     -     Hopkins. This could be one of the easier games to pick although the "band box" at Chestertown is always a very tough place to play. Blue Jays will fly high as the Shoremen wash up face down!

Muhlenburg @ Ursinus     -     Ursinus. Bear maul mules. Enough said.

Well, there goes nothing - read 'em and weep! By far, this is the most difficult set of games to choose. It also appears that there are more differences in selections amongst the six of us. I wonder what it will do to the standings?!?

Regards to all. Good Luck.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 30, 2008, 05:00:58 pm
Here is the breakdown for tonight:
                 for        against

F &M         4           2
McDaniel   4           2
Haverford  5           1
Hopkins     5           1
Ursinus      6           0

As Eric stated, it could shake things up.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 30, 2008, 05:04:41 pm
Pick-em's for Saturday 02/02/08 ( Groundhogs Day)

Ursinus       @      John Hopkins
Muhlenberg @      McDaniel
Gettysburg   @    Washington
Haverford    @     Dickinson
Swarthmore @     F & M

Good Luck Saturday.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 31, 2008, 05:35:16 pm
Results 1/30/08 Pick-em's

r.w.mcnickels        5 - 0
Reserved Seat      4 - 1
Old ends              4 - 1
Diplomanic1          3 - 2
Leo                     3 - 2
suetonius             1 - 4

Over all
r.w.mcnickels       28 - 7  (.800)
Reserved Seat     28 - 7 (.800)
Leo                    26 - 9  (.743)
Old Ends             25 - 10 (.714)
Diplomanic1         13 - 7  (.650)
Suetonius            22 - 13 (.629)

A perfect 5-0 for r.w.mcnickels.  The rest of us.. a point here a point there..uh. Old saying from brooklyn.
" My luck only good when it is bad"

7 days of games to go

Sorry about that Reserved... it has been corrected..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 31, 2008, 06:17:58 pm
How did my picks go from 24-6 to 25-10?
I must have been penalized for constantly picking F&M. 

As Old Ends said--The rest of us.. a point here a point there..uh. Old saying from brooklyn.
" My luck only good when it is bad"
SIX key points by F&M, and I'd be sitting pretty.(2 against Gettysburg, 1 against McDaniel, and 3 against Dickinson)

My picks for Saturday

Ursinus--no one has solved them yet
Muhlenberg--coin toss
Gettysburg--too much height
Dickinson--enthusiastic crowd at home-seemed like a play-off game on Wednesday
F & M--who else-they're at home--they've now had 3 nail-biters in a row
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 31, 2008, 07:56:22 pm
Ok see if all of you agree with the following:
Ursinus has a 2 game lead over Gettysburg--Looks like they make the playoff
Gettysburg has a 3 game lead over McDaniel--they too make the playoff
McDaniel--Hopkins both at 7-4, McDaniel Finished away at Gettysburg,but has Hopkins home the week before
                     Hopkins Finishes at home with Washington and of course has McDaniel away the week before. Each meet Ursinus and Gettysburg so I think, unless they fall apart they make it also..

Now the 5th seed could go to Muhlenburg (6-5), F & M (5-6) or Dickinson(5-6). The Muhls  may have to win out, but if they lose, it could come down to the last game of the year between Dickinson and F & M in Lancaster.

What do you think??

See any upsets that could, as they say, rock the boat.


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 31, 2008, 08:07:15 pm
Picks for 2/2/08-- ( Groundhog Day)

Hopkins-- Upset pick of the year----I hope I hope I Hope
McDaniel--They need the win, but so does thier opponent
Gettysburg-
Dickinson
F & M

Good Luck
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 01, 2008, 09:37:51 am
2/2 picks, no where to go but do better

Ursinus: Bears won't hibernate, could be close but no Jay cigar
McDaniel: Terror with home edge & make up for Memorial Hall debacle
Gburg: Though Sho'man potentially tough at Cain
Dickinson: Obvious at home, but Chaz always with chance to take over a contest
F&M: Dips on losing tear, believe SWAT has decent chance for upset but picking Garnet has left me in contest freefall





Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 01, 2008, 01:18:33 pm
2/2 picks:

Not a good day for some teams on the road.

McDaniel (Muhlenberg is 1-8 on the road)
Dickenson (Haverford is 0-8 on the road)
F&M (Swarthmore is 0-8 on the road)

Upset pick:  Washington over Gettysburg (Getty is feeling complacent in their standing as #2 team)

Tough pick: Got to pick Ursinus over Hopkins. While the Jays played the Bears tough at Colleageville, they had a couple of trends in their favor ....  they killed the Bears on OFF rebounds where the ball "may have bounced in the right direction" from their 3 pointers ... from 6:51 to 1:45 mark, Bears were outscored 11-2 to make the game close .. and Shema had foul trouble during the whole game. Coach Small will have the team fired up to complete the "revenge factor." They spanked Haverford already because they lost last year in the semi-finals @ Hopkins arena. And, closure will happen when they win @ Hopkins arena to avenge the "site" factor.

If the Bears win this game, we could see them in D3hoops's top 25. Or, maybe I just gave them the kiss of death  :'(
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 01, 2008, 06:51:16 pm


Folks -

Here are my selections for the 02/02/2008 pick-ems"

Ursinus @ Hopkins:   Hopkins. Blue Jays are due for a big win and are always tough in Baltimore even if the stands aren't filled with students and local fans. No matter how good the Bears are, it is always tough to go undefeated in conference - just ask the Dips' squads that went to the Final Fours in the 1990's! No real reason behind selection except for a gut feeling.

Muhlenberg @ McDaniel:   McDaniel, but not with much conviction here especially since the Terror has had recent trouble holding leads and has been pushed into overtime the last two games! I think that the Mules match-up with the Green Terror pretty well personnel-wise. It is fairly tough call here. However, in the end, I gave the edge to the Terror in light of the Mules' weak road record and the Terror's good home court stats.

Gettysburg @ Washington:   Gettysburg. Not much to say here as the records for Gettysburg and Washington tell the tale. Bullets shoot down the Shoremen, even in their Chestertown bandbox!

Haverford @ Dickinson:   Haverford. I probably should have taken the Red Deveils, especially in light of the Fords' less than stellar road record. Maybe the last game (a win) will start them on a roll with Chazz taking charge again. Just another gut feeling here.  No defensible reason for selection except that the Devils could come out flat after a big tough come-from-behind win against the Dips.

Swarthmore @ Franklin And Marshall:   F&M. Dips due to rebound after three very tough road losses and Mayser Center is a perfect place to do it where the Dips are always tough and have a strong home record this year. Garnet should be better than their record indicates. However, they are misearble in conference and on the road, only slightly better than the Shoremen.

Well, thats it - another set of wild guesses! It looks to me like another prayer to go 5-0 and to try to move up in the overall standings. I haven't seen anything from R. W. yet.

Since the F&M game is a late start - 8:00 P. M., I will probably try to get to Mayser for the action. I saw the Dips in Westmister and Carlisle and will most my thoughts later in a separate entry.

Hope everyone survived the winter weather mix! Good luck to all prognosticators, fans, and the teams. Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 02, 2008, 08:50:58 am
Stats have been updated for the conference;

Ursinus still leads overall scoring/game ave.
Haverford still has the best scoring defense.

Muhlenberg has the best home team attendence.. just to get something different in.

http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 02, 2008, 10:03:20 am

Muhlenberg has the best home team attendence.. just to get something different in.


For my 2 cents worth just to get something different in, Ursinus has the best looking female students. :D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 02, 2008, 10:24:30 am
Groundhog Day picks:

Dickinson
F&M
Gettysburg
Ursinus
McDaniel


I got lucky the other night when McDaniel and F&M failed to hold onto leads.  Both teams should get back on track today.  Dickinson at home; Gettysburg and Ursinus in tight battles on the road.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 03, 2008, 02:20:31 pm
Results for 2/2/08 Pick-em's and groundhogs day...

Reserved Seat-------- 5 - 0
Suetonius-------------4 - 1
r.w.mcnickels---------4 - 1
Leo ---------- -----   3 - 2
Old Ends --- --------    3 - 2
Diplomanic1 -----------2 - 3

Overall

Reserved Seat -----  33 - 7  ( .825)
r.w.mcnickels------- 32 - 8 ( .800)
Leo ----------- ---  29 - 11(.725)
Old ends ---------- 28 - 12( .700)
Suetonius ---------- 26 - 14( .650)
Diplomanic1----------15 - 10 (.600)

With 6 sets of games to go anyone's race. One overtime game and two games that 4 points between a win or a loss could have really jumbled things up..

Congrats to Reserved Seat, who use his knowledge and crystal ball to get a perfect 5-0.

One thing I could never figure out, not being from PA. What is the difference, 6 more weeks of winter or 6 more weeks till spring. Groundhogs could never make up thier minds or are great politicians.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 03, 2008, 02:34:26 pm
Standings CC
Ursinus                  12-0
Gettysburg            10-2 
McDaniel                 7-5 
Johns Hopkins         7-5 
Muhlenberg             7-5 
Franklin & Marshall   6-6 
Dickinson                 6-6 

Can F & M and or Dickinson make the run to get into the conference playoff's?
Can Hopkins, McDaniel, and Muhlenberg keep the above out??

Going to be a good finish.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 03, 2008, 02:38:02 pm
2/06/08 Pick-em's

F & M               @     John Hopkins
McDaniel           @    Swarthmore
Washington      @    Ursinus
Dickinson          @    Gettysburg
Haverford         @    Muhlenberg

Good luck to all!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 04, 2008, 11:25:45 am
2/6 Picks:

McDaniel
Ursinus
Gettysburg
Muhlenberg
Hopkins (the Dips will run out of gas)

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 04, 2008, 03:42:04 pm
Hopefully the crystal ball isn't too foggy.

2/6 picks

F & M--tunnel vision pick
Swarthmore--even though he pouts and whines, Ian needs a win
Ursinus--no one had figured out how to beat them yet.
Gettysburg--should be an interesting game under the basketball, but the Bullets have more bullets in
                   the chambers
Muhlenberg--the Fords continue to stall out
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 04, 2008, 06:16:10 pm
2/6 picks

JHU
McDaniel
Ursinus
Gburg
Muhlenberg

No upsets for me, have no faith in Dips on road, often played well at Hopkins when they had better more seasoned teams, not so this year
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 04, 2008, 07:01:47 pm
2/6/08 pick-ems

John Hopkins-- they need the win to stay in the playoff hunt
McDaniel--They too need to win
Ursinus-- They too will win
Gettysburg--They should win--Route 34 battle
Muhlenberg-- They must keep winning to stay in the hunt

therefore the they's technicality thrash those thither.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 04, 2008, 07:18:22 pm
Stats are posted thru 2/4/ games

http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Washington leads in steals and turnover margins.. go figure!
Ursinus in scoring offense and Haverford in scoring defense.
Swarthmore in offensive boards and F & M in defense boards

NCAA Stats:  http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings

Haverford 20th in scoring defense, McDaniel 32nd and Dickinson 54th
Ursinus 19th in field goal percentage and Gettysburg 38th.




Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 04, 2008, 08:14:19 pm
Ursinus cracks into this week's Top 25 at No. 21.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 05, 2008, 04:45:25 pm
2/6 picks:

F&M
Muhlenberg
McDaniel
Ursinus
Gettysburg

Who knows, it could be time for McNally and Baker to lead F&M to a big road win.  Almost picked Dickinson after two razor close wins for the Devils, but decided on the Bullets and their big guns.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 06, 2008, 04:56:57 pm


Fellow Centennial Conference Fans -

Here are my selections for tonight's 2/6 Pick-ems:

F&M @ Johns Hopkins:     Diplomats. This one of the two fairly difficult games to pick. Heart says pick F&M and head says pick the Blue Jays. However, except for F&M's poor road record, the remainder of the season statistics (scoring offense, rebounding, three-pointers, defense, etc.) suggest a slight edge for the Diplomats. So, I will go with my heart and hope that the Dips can finally get the monkey off their backs and deliver that long awaited and very important conference road win. Dips always play well at Goldfarb.

Haverford @ Muhlenberg:   Mules. Mules are always tough in cavernous Memorial Hall in Allentown. It is a difficult place to play with an apparent poor (very dark) shooting background and real loud and unruly local fans from the town. Fords have a weak road record and just can't seem to get it together despite of the best efforts of Chaz.

McDaniel @ Swarthmore:   Green Terror. This one shouldn't even be close. However, the Garnet always seems to hang around and keep most games close. They don't appear to have much bench or support for Ian. Terror should also out-physical Swarthmore.

Washington @ Ursinus:   Ursinus. Golden Bears may lose in conference. However, tonight is not the night for that to happen! There's nothing else to say here.

Dickinson @ Gettysburg:   Gettysburg. This is the second fairly difficult game in which to make a prediction. Should be a real battle inside and a close good game. I just think the Bullets have too much gunpowder for the Red Devils, especially at Bream.

Well, there goes nothing. The above deranged musings represents another weak attempt by me to climb up the ladder in the rankings. I won't get to Baltimore tonight because I would have to spend almost seven hours roundtrip from southwest-central PA in the car for two hours of gametime. That's a real tough trade-off during the work week. It would be after midnight before I got back home. Now, on the weekend, that type of trip would be a slightly different story!

Good luck to all teams, fans, and prognosticators. Regards,

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 06, 2008, 08:49:51 pm
Pick-em's for 02/09/08

Gettysburg      @  Muhlenberg
McDaniel         @  Ursinus
F & M             @  Washington
John  Hopkins  @  Haverford
Dickinson          @  Swarthmore

Diplomanic1  Your weekly ramble was again but forth with much thought and insite. Hopefully your logic will prove positive for the effort.

Will post results from tonight games tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 07, 2008, 09:23:16 am
Picks for 2/9

Gettysburg
John Hopkins
Ursinus
Dickenson
F&M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 07, 2008, 08:41:30 pm
Results of 2/6/08 pick-em's

Leo                 5 - 0
Suetonius         5 - 0
Old Ends           5 - 0
Diplomanic1      4 - 1
r.w.mcnickels    4 - 1
Reserved Seat   3 - 2

Overall

Reserved Seat     36 - 9 (.800)
r.w.mcnickels       36 - 9 (.800)
Leo                    34 - 11(.756)
old ends              33 - 12(.733)
Suetonius            31 - 14(.689)
Diplomanic1         19 - 11(.633)

congrats to Leo, Suetonius, and old ends a perfect 5 - 0.. I personally took someone's crystal ball that week..I wish!!

overall with 5 sets of games to go --- it is still up for grabs..

good luck with 2/9 pick-em's listed above
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 07, 2008, 09:45:05 pm
With 5 games to go F & M  and Dickinson may be falling out of the race. This week is the battle of the Berg's( Burg's) with the Muhls needing it at home to stay in the playoff hunt. McDaniel has the tough game taking on Ursinus at the Bears home court. The Terror also need to win, but it could prove to be a tougher task of the top teams this Saturday.

F & M finishes out with two home games which could come into play in the overall playoff picture. No one else in the Conference has that at season's end.

Also any All Conference picks from any of you.. I am going to look at the stats Sunday and throw a few names out.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 07, 2008, 09:53:04 pm
The Stats are posted take a look.

Click here: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 07, 2008, 11:59:52 pm
2/9 picks

Muhlenberg
Ursinus
Washington
JHU
Dickinson
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 08, 2008, 04:27:15 pm
Picks for 2/9

Muhlenberg-- The battle of the Bergs(Burgs). This time at home for the Mules who won the boards
                      but did not shoot well.. Maybe better at home. They need to keep winning.
Ursinus
Washington--F & M's road record equals Washington's home record and the last time they only lost
                       by eight and F & M shot the lights out.
Hopkins
Dickinson-- Only because they need the win to jump ahead of F & M


Good luck to all!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 08, 2008, 05:14:57 pm
Having trouble with my internet connection.  I thought I already posted my picks for 2/9, but when I looked today they weren't there. 
Second try-same picks, so they won't be any better than the first try.

Gettysburg
Ursinus
F & M
John  Hopkins
Dickinson
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 08, 2008, 06:35:18 pm

My Picks for 2/9:

Gettysburg @ Muhlenberg   -   Gettysburg. Toughest game to pick. I take the team with the better overall record to best the team with a strong home record.

Hopkins @ Haverford   -   Hopkins. Nothing else to say that hasn't already been said about the Fords.

McDaniel @ Ursinus   -   Ursinus. Golden Bears at home have too much firepower for the Green Terror.

Dickinson @ Swarthmore   -   Dickinson.

F&M @ Washington   -   F&M. Tunnel-vision with the Dips still having time to get a road win. What better place to do it than against the Shoremen in Chestertown?!?

Can't imagine that these picks are any better than those that I have made over the last two weeks. May try to see the F&M game and have crabcakes for dinner.

Good luck to all. Regards.

Eric


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 08, 2008, 09:15:34 pm
2/9 picks:

Muhlenberg
Johns Hopkins
Ursinus
Dickinson
Washington


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 08, 2008, 09:46:06 pm
Boy there is going to be some changes this week.

Ursinus, Dickinson, and John Hopkins became everyone's choice. Now the fun part. Those who picked Gettysburg also Picked F & M. While those who picked Muhlenberg also picked Washington. It could work out that nothing changes or there may be a whole lot of shaken going on..

Will find out by Saturday Night.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 09, 2008, 07:31:52 pm
Results of 02/09/08 pick-em's

diplomanic1      5 - 0
Leo                 5 - 0
Reserved Seat   5 - 0
Suetonius         3 - 2
r.w.mcnickels    3 - 2
old ends           3 - 2

Overall
Reserved Seat     41 - 9  (.820)
Leo                    39 - 11(.780)
r.w.mcnickels       39 - 11(.780)
old ends              36 - 14(.720)
diplomanic1          24 - 11(.685)
Suetonius            34 - 16(.680)

Congrats to Leo, diplomanic1, and Reserved Seat for a perfect 5 - 0 for todays games.

The games were tight-- John Hopkins and Dickinson both needed overtime to win. Ursinus and Gettysburg had narrow victories. F & M won big time.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 09, 2008, 07:44:23 pm
Pick-em's for 02/13/08

Gettysburg          @  John Hopkins
Ursinus                @  F & M
Haverford            @  Washington
McDaniel              @  Dickinson
Muhlenberg         @  Swarthmore

The next 4 sets of games really start to set the playoff's Ursinus and Gettysburg are in. Hopkins, McDaniel, and Muhlenberg are in control of thier own playoff berth's, if they can win out. F & M and Dickinson must win out to get a shot.

F & M has Ursinus at home, Haverford away, Gettysburg at home, and Dickinson at home for what could be a playoff spot.
Dickinson has McDaniel at home, Ursinus at home, Muhlenberg at home, and F & M away.

Thoughts???
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 09, 2008, 10:22:19 pm
3 miles left in the marathon run, and the leader is now in sight   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 10, 2008, 02:33:43 pm
Ok!! As I stated before that today I would put together an All- Conference List.. It may not even look like the one the Coaches and SID put together...I looked at Stats and Past game day info from the Teams web pages. I also looked at the weekly releases from the conference...Position that they play did not have any bearing..

You may say no to all or add a few, but look it over and add your remarks and or players.

10 Players

Nick Shattuck              Ursinus
Dan Capkin                 Gettysburg
Tom Leszczynski          Dickinson
Ian McCormick             Swarthmore
Doug Polster               John Hopkins
Chris Prior                   McDaniel
Brandon Chasen           F & M
Remy Cousart             Ursinus
James McNally             F & M
Mike Bernardini            Muhlenberg

Look it over and have fun with it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 11, 2008, 12:59:18 pm
I think John Noonan from Ursinus deserves a mention/addition to the list. We all know that Shattuck will be POY. Remy Cousart is the point guard running the offense. While Cousart has done a good job, I think Noonan deserves a slight nod over Remy because John has elevated his play in many areas. 

2007 vs 2008

8.3          vs.   13.5  ppg
40.6%     vs.   44.9%   FG
33.0        vs.    37.4%   3 pt FG
76.3        vs.    80.6%    FT
26.6 mins   vs    28.8 mins/game

Moreover, his defense is also better this year.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 11, 2008, 08:48:02 pm
Leo:
Like I said, please give imput into this list. It is not any official list, just wnat to see how close all of use together get to the offical team from the Conference. After all you are running the marathon.
Pick-em's for 02/13/08

Gettysburg          @  John Hopkins
Ursinus                @  F & M
Haverford            @  Washington
McDaniel              @  Dickinson
Muhlenberg         @  Swarthmore

The next 4 sets of games really start to set the playoff's Ursinus and Gettysburg are in. Hopkins, McDaniel, and Muhlenberg are in control of thier own playoff berth's, if they can win out. F & M and Dickinson must win out to get a shot.

F & M has Ursinus at home, Haverford away, Gettysburg at home, and Dickinson at home for what could be a playoff spot.
Dickinson has McDaniel at home, Ursinus at home, Muhlenberg at home, and F & M away.

Thoughts???

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 11, 2008, 08:54:39 pm
Here are the latest update from the Conference.

Weekly update: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2008/CC_MBK_211.pdf

Stats Including games thru 2/9/08: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 12, 2008, 01:06:12 pm
On All-CC player thought list

Brandon Chasen (FM) isn't doing enough to even make HM. Others to be considered should be Chaz Thomas (HC) or Andrew Powers (GB), not sure who else should be dropped.

On another note the CC seems to be improving top to bottom. Next year should be very entertaining. The only teams that will probably not be as strong are SWAT (lose seniors including McCormick), McDaniel & Ursinus (they will miss Shattuck badly & will not likely be able to replace him). Ursinus won't be a shoo-in next year & could fall several pegs.

JHU, Gburg, DC & HC should be better. MC and F&M should be much better and some of these teams are already quite good. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 12, 2008, 06:33:32 pm
2/13 Picks

Gettysburg--inside player strength so beat JH
F & M--GIANT upset-perfect season ended(sounds familiar)
Haverford--with little confidence
Dickinson--home team--fans should count for a few points
Muhlenberg--too much for Swarthmore

I agree with Suetonius about Brandon Chasen.  He's been too inconsistent for All-CC list.  He's had some great games and helped greatly when Hines and Scovill couldn't play.  McNally is a worthy choice. Baker is a future All-CC player.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 12, 2008, 07:22:45 pm
2/13 picks, and a challenging set it is.

JHU: home court in a toss-up
Ursinus: did think Dips might pull off upset but have recanted, but next year it could be different
Washington: Fords haven't done well on the road, Sho'men haven't done well at home
McDaniel: riskily picking road team in another crap shoot, ? no near-Bear upset hangover for Terror
Muhlenberg: SWAT often close but no cigar at home, am picking a Mule OT victory



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 12, 2008, 09:24:42 pm
Picks for 2/13/08

Gettysburg    will keep pressure up for the playoff's no let down now
Ursinus          I think they want to remain perfect in the conference for the number 1 seed.
Washington    Next
Dickinson       They need the win to keep in the hunt and move up the list
Muhlenberg    Must win to stay in the hunt-- can't let up


Will try to post results on Thursday and Saturday's games tomorrow. I will not be in wireless range for a few days. Will try toget to a computer with a land line. If unable all will be updated by mid day monday..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 12, 2008, 09:37:58 pm
Update on Our All Conference Team


10 Players

Nick Shattuck              Ursinus
Dan Capkin                 Gettysburg
Tom Leszczynski          Dickinson
Ian McCormick             Swarthmore
Doug Polster               John Hopkins
Chris Prior                   McDaniel
Chaz Thomaas            Haverford
John Noonan               Ursinus
James McNally             F & M
Mike Bernardini           Muhlenberg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 13, 2008, 06:30:38 am
Picks for 2/13:

Hopkins (this will be played like a playoff game and home court rules)
Ursinus  (F&M season will come to a bloody end)
Haverford (someone pull the fork out of Washington, they are done)
Dickinson  (this is their season game if they want to continue, and at home)
Muhlenberg

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 13, 2008, 07:14:12 am
As for my final thoughts on the all CC team, I am recommending a strong (somewhat controversal) point:  Remy Cousart should be picked over Chaz Thomas.

Ursinus is having a surprising year, and I believe that 3 players are the reason for this and should be recognized on the all CC team: Shattuck (leadership and skill), Noonan (shooting and defense) and Cousart (point guard play).

CC is a guard driven league. If you have a good point guard running the offense, then your team will fair well. Having a good shooting guard like Chaz is nice to have, but he has had to be spectacular this season. Personally, I expected bigger things from Chaz, and even considered him as a potential POY. Chaz hasnot been spectacular. Haverford was picked #3 in the preseason poll, and I am sure they are the biggest disappointment this season at 3-11.

On the other hand, Cousart has run the Ursinus offense very well this year.  It was very difficult for him as a freshman last year to fill the shoes of McGarvey (POY). As a soph this year, he leads the league in assists per game. He is the quiet man on the team and does his job well.

Cousart should be an HM for the CC team.

Old Ends, I think you did a damn good job in selecting the top 10 players. I am just trying to tweek it a bit, and see how we all do.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 13, 2008, 12:29:55 pm


Folks -

Tonight features a fairly difficult slate of games from which to make picks. Hopefully, the weather will not force any cancellations. However, the forecast doesn't look too good later this afternoon and early this evening for the games that will be played in Pennsylvania. It may be better for the games scheduled to take place in Maryland.

That being said, here are my best guesses albeit made without any degree of confidence:

McDaniel @ Dickinson:   McDaniel. Kline Center students were fairly quiet when F&M was there in late January. So, they might not be much of an advantage for the Red Devils. There is no question that the Devils need the win more than McDaniel. I'll take the Terror to make the Devils green with envy!

Ursinus @ Franklin And Marshall:   Ursinus. Hometown and Alma Mater loyalty only goes so far - no pick with the heart here. Golden Bears have too much for the Dips. Although, I would love the upset, but........

Haverford @ Washington:   Washington, but with no conviction. Fords are winless on the road. This may be their last legitmate chance to notch a road victory. I'll take the Shoremen to surprise Chaz and company.

Gettysburg @ Johns Hopkins:   Gettysburg. Toughest game of all to call! Although the Bullets have had alot of close calls lately, I just think that the Bullets appear have a slight edge on paper. Students are always quiet at Goldfarb! Jays will be really blue after this one!

Muhlenberg @ Swarthmore:   Muhlenberg. Team with weak road record vs. team with very weak overall record. Mules absolutely need win to stay in hunt for Conference Tournament. The Garnet don't appear deep enough around Ian to get the win, even if they are at home.

Well, there you have it! Hope the ice and snow isn't too bad were you folks are at. I probably won't make the trek (only slightly more than two hours) from Huntingdon County to Mayser Center tonight due to the weather outlook. Good luck to all. Regards,

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 13, 2008, 02:41:03 pm
2/13 picks:

Dickinson
Ursinus
Washington
Johns Hopkins
Muhlenberg

On another note the CC seems to be improving top to bottom.

Suetonius, great point.  I think the "middle of the pack" teams are better than they've been in the past.  Most teams have talented youth, so I could see the CC being the strongest conference in the region next year if it's not already — although that isn't saying a whole lot!

F&M season will come to a bloody end

Not the best week to inject blood into a sports argument. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 13, 2008, 05:57:58 pm
Just noticed that the regional rankings were released today.  I'm not sure the CC has ever had the top two ranked teams (possibly F&M and Hopkins in the '90s, but not sure about that).  If the Bears retain the top spot, they'd have a good argument to host a game or two in NCAAs.

Middle Atlantic Region

1. Ursinus 19-2 16-1 .526 .518
2. Gettysburg 17-3 15-2 .553 .521
3. Widener 17-4 14-3 .553 .524
4. Messiah 15-6 14-5 .650 .519
5. DeSales 17-4 14-3 .522 .507
6. Albright 14-5 14-4 .528 .544
7. York (Pa.) 16-6 16-5 .557 .506
8. Moravian 17-5 16-5 .462 .511
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 14, 2008, 06:38:24 am
Ursinus shot an incredible 15 for 21 from the 3-point line.  No matter who shot, the ball was dead on.
Shattuck was the coldest of Ursinus' shooters, and he was still three for seven.  Meanwhile F&M shot 3 for 22 from the 3-point line.  Almost everything they shot was off.  It was an easy win win for Ursinus.
With the 3-pointers dropping, they never had to work the ball inside.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 14, 2008, 10:15:41 am
Saw the Ursinus/F&M on video stream last night.

It was an incredible display of 3 point shooting. The Bears moved the ball around very well and a shooter was open most of the time. Granted, the shooter has to make the shot. The Bear's defense was pretty good on the Dips. Most of the time there was a Bear's player in the Dip's face making their shots difficult. Morevoer, Shema did a great job with his blocked shots (I think he had 7) and intimidated the Dip's inside game.

I was impressed with McNally's play, and F&M could have a good future with him for the next 3 years.

I thought last night that the Dips could of moved the basketball quicker to McNally inside and then McNally back out to the guards, and then swing it around for some open shots. However, hard to beat 15 for 21 on 3 point shooting.

Great night for Coach Small. He wins his 100th CC game, and becomes the Bear's winningest coach. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 14, 2008, 10:34:35 am
Boy, did Muhlenberg play like donkeys last night. And Dickinson could only score 3 points in the last 4:46 mins of the game, and lose by 2. And then, there is Hopkins being smoked on their home court.

This does not bode well for my record.  >:(

Was there a full moon last night ?

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 14, 2008, 04:56:09 pm
results for 2/13/08

Diplomanic1         3  - 2
suetonius             2 - 3
r.w.mcnickels        1 - 4
Leo                     2 - 3
Reserved Seat      2 - 3
old ends                2 - 3

Overall

Reserved Seat        43 - 12
r.e.mcnickels           40 - 15
Leo                        41 - 14
old ends                 38 - 17
diplomanic1             27 - 13
suetonius                36 - 19

I will update percentages Sunday..

What a different set of games that was.. only one home team won.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 14, 2008, 05:00:30 pm
Pick-em's for 2/16/08

F & M             @   Haverford
John Hopkins   @  Muhlenberg
Swarthmore   @  Gettysburg
Washington    @  McDaniel
Ursinus           @  Dickinson

Good luck, will catch everything up Sunday..Found a wireless conection for now .
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 14, 2008, 05:02:42 pm
Picks for 2/16/08

F & M
Muhlenberg
Gettysburg
McDaniel
Ursinus

Cood luck to all!!

Must go connection getting week
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 14, 2008, 06:27:06 pm
Old Ends, my record was 2-3, not 3-2. Thank you.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 14, 2008, 07:19:07 pm
Old Ends, my record was, also, 2-3, not 3-2. Also, thank you for keeping track of the results.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 15, 2008, 11:34:53 am
old ends, thanks for the generosity, but I was a pitiful 1-4 Wednesday night (2/13).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 15, 2008, 11:45:28 am
Saw the Ursinus/F&M on video stream last night.

It was an incredible display of 3 point shooting. The Bears moved the ball around very well and a shooter was open most of the time. Granted, the shooter has to make the shot. The Bear's defense was pretty good on the Dips. Most of the time there was a Bear's player in the Dip's face making their shots difficult. Morevoer, Shema did a great job with his blocked shots (I think he had 7) and intimidated the Dip's inside game.

I was impressed with McNally's play, and F&M could have a good future with him for the next 3 years.

I thought last night that the Dips could of moved the basketball quicker to McNally inside and then McNally back out to the guards, and then swing it around for some open shots. However, hard to beat 15 for 21 on 3 point shooting.

Great night for Coach Small. He wins his 100th CC game, and becomes the Bear's winningest coach. 


Leo, I haven't seen shooting like that in a long time.  The Bears have an incredible group of guards.  Noonan and Shattuck are difficult to defend, and Cousart makes the whole offense run smoothly.

As for McNally, he could average 18 and 12 for the next three years and it won't matter.  Until they get better guard play, especially at the point, the Dips will remain a mediocre program.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 15, 2008, 07:01:49 pm


Old Ends -

Unless I am mistaken, I believe that I was 3-2 for 2/13 and not 4-1. Like the rest of us, I think that perhaps your tabulating system suffered from momentary down-time! It's not that I don't want the extra win to move up in the standings. But, I want to do so on the merits or lack thereof for my picks!

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 15, 2008, 07:22:24 pm


Folks -

I guess it is that time already - time to make the picks for 2/16 (or is that "the donuts")! Anyway, here are my deranged musings -

Ursinus @ Dickinson:   Ursinus. Nothing to say here even though the Red Devils really need the win! Golden Bears all the way.

Franklin And Marshall @ Haverford:  F&M. This is one of the two more difficult games to choose. But, I will pick the Dips for a rare road win as they really need it to stay in the hunt for a spot in the conference tournament. They were helped by some of Wednesday evening's other losses.

Johns Hopkins @ Muhlenburg:  Johns Hopkins. Here is the other tough game to call - just not very sure about either squad. Mules are better at home and really need the game more to stay in the hunt for a conference tournament slot. Hopkins has the better overall record and is only average on the road. Everything else being fairly even, I will take the Blue Jays since a loss by the Mules helps the Dips more!

Swarthmore @ Gettysburg:   Gettysburg. Not too much to say here either. The Garnet are winless on the road and the Bullets are clearly the better team and always tough at Bream.

Washington @ McDaniel:   McDaniel. Although the Shoremen beat the Green Terror in their first meeting, the outcome should be different this time, especially since it is at the Gill Center. See above comments on the Swarthmore/Gettysburg game.

And, there you have it. Hopefully, if the weather is nice tomorrow morning, I may head out of town and head for the Main Line to see the Dips play at Haverford, especially since I didn't make it to Mayser on Wednesday night!

Boys, these pick-em have sure been fun. It is too bad we didn't have a few more participants supporting other schools. But then, Old Ends might have needed assistance with the tabulating process! Good luck to all. Regards,

Eric
 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 15, 2008, 07:36:14 pm
The crystal balls must've been working on Wednesday.  The nasty weather must have clouded the globes.  I think I cracked mine when I slipped on my icy driveway.  A blue haze still affects my picks.
Here goes:

F & M--a must win and that blue haze effect
John Hopkins--the crystal is cloudy on this one
Gettysburg--too much for the Garnet
McDaniel--at home and Washington is struggling
Ursinus--even if they don't shoot as well as Wednesday
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 15, 2008, 10:44:13 pm
1/16 picks

Haverford: Dips road woes may snuff out season
Muhlenberg: Back in the visitor unfriendly confines
Gburg: lead pipe cinch
McDaniel: another slam dunk pick
Ursinus: May do it to the Devils

What has happened to F&Ms Scovill?

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 16, 2008, 08:45:22 am
Picks for 1/16"

Ursinus
F&M  ( I think I forgot taking my prozac in picking this game)
Hopkins (I hope the donkeys don't wake up)
Gettysburg
McDaniel
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 16, 2008, 10:19:51 am
2/16 picks:

Ursinus
Haverford
Muhlenberg
Gettysburg
McDaniel
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 16, 2008, 10:44:40 am
Heading to the Ursinus/Dickinson games this afternoon. Who else?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 16, 2008, 11:32:33 am
Pat:

To far for me from South Jersey to Dickinson. I usually go to the bear's home game. Perhaps, I would see ya there during the first two rounds of the DIV. III tourney.   :D

I am very interested in hearing your opinion of the Ursinus team, and how they stack up to other teams you have seen.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 16, 2008, 03:29:54 pm
Scovill has an ankle injury which won't heal.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 16, 2008, 03:50:32 pm
Haverford pounds F&M, 76-64.  Don't let the score fool you - the Fords led by 30 in the second half.  Thomas and Fratangelo had big games for the Fords, while McNally (23 points) seemed to be F&M's only option until Brooks turned it on late.

Looks like Muhlenberg couldn't get any home cooking at Memorial Hall, so F&M remains alive for the fifth spot.  The Dips are trying to die in peace, but nobody will let them.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 17, 2008, 12:21:38 pm
I liked Ursinus -- on a day where Shattuck was real quiet (couple quick buckets right before Ursinus emptied the bench got him to 14) others stepped up.

Noonan, in particular, impressed me.

Took pictures: http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=2080
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 17, 2008, 04:02:14 pm
Hi, haven't had a post since the beginning of the season but have been following the conference pretty closely all season.  I would like to say that this Ursinus team is having one of the best seasons in conference history but I don't know if I would say they have been one of the best teams. I could be wrong but I would like to see what other people think. With that said, I was thinking about what would happen if you take the best players from each team regardless of graduation year and put them on an all time team and what their combined stats would look like.  I put this together for Ursinus.

   Name              Grad Year   PPG   Shtg %   3 Pt %   FT %   APG   RPG   TO PG
PG   Mike McGarvey   2006   15.4   0.422   0.382   0.726   7.6   3.4   3.9
SG   Dennis Stanton   2004   32.6   0.451   0.393   0.838   1.7   3.9   3.6
F   Nick Shattuck   2008   21.9   0.537   0.395   0.707   2.0   6.5   2.8
F   Richie Barrett   2001   18.3   0.522   0.421   0.741   1.9   7.7   2.2
C   Dan Luciano   2003   19.0   0.584   0.22   0.635   1.8   10.5   3.2
                           
Res G   Luther Owens   2001   12.5   0.447   0.366   0.753   5.6   3.7   3.5
Res F/C   Steve Erfle   2003   16.3   0.563   0.000   0.589   1.5   9.4   3.1
Res F   Will Furey                   2007   15.3   0.507   0.491   0.84   2.1   5.9   2.8
Res G   Brian McEvily   2006   14.4   0.469   0.323   0.849   2.6   3.9   2.6
                           
   Raw Totals      165.7   0.500   0.396   0.742   26.7   54.9   27.7
   Adjusted Totals      124.275   0.500   0.396   0.742   20.0   41.2   20.8


I think these guys would make a pretty good team.  ;D  For the starters I took their POY statistics with the exception of Shattuck ( I took his current stats). For Barrett and Owens I took averages for their shooting percentages because they were not readily available. For the adjusted totals I took 75% of the raw totals because I figured that scoring averages, rebounds, assists, and turnovers would decrease by that much (I could be wrong on that one but you get the idea). What does everyone think of this team?  I am sure some F&M fans can put together an all time team that would match up pretty nicely with this Ursinus team.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 17, 2008, 10:22:09 pm
Pat Coleman:

Thanks for sharing the pics from the Ursinus/Dickinson game.

Do you think that two teams from the Centennial Conference could make the tourney? I know there has been a history of discussion about the selection of teams, their regional presence and where the games are to be played. Two teams from the Centennial Conference are #1 and #2 in the Mid-Atlantic  Region rankings, which I believe hasn't happened before. Does this bode well for the Conference or is there still a feeling that the Conference is fair to weak?

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2008, 09:48:12 am
If they stay 1-2 in the regional rankings then it will be hard for them not to take both teams. Best way, mathematically, for that to happen is for both to win out and Gettysburg to win the CC tournament, but not sure that will be popular here. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 18, 2008, 12:56:03 pm
Results for 2/16/08 pick-em's

Reserved Seat           4 - 1
r.w.mcnickels             4 - 1
Leo                         4 - 1
suetonius                 4 - 1
Diplomanic1              4 - 1
old ends                   3 - 2

Overall
Reserved Seat        47 - 13 (.783)
Leo                       45 - 15 (.750)
r.w.mcnickels          44 - 16 (.733)
Diplomanic1            31 - 14 (.689)
old ends                 41 - 19 (.683)
suetonius               40 - 20 (.667)

Sorry for the mistakes and misspells... I only had a little bit of cell connection where I was and e-mails to family to let them know the wife and I were ok came first.. Sail boats must avoid storms and seek shelter quicker then normal craft.It also made us late for the plane to get back home.

All corrections have been made thanks for letting me know.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 18, 2008, 01:06:00 pm
Pick-em's for 2/20/08

John Hopkins      @  McDaniel
Muhlenberg        @  Dickinson
Gettysburg         @  F & M
Haverford           @  Ursinus
Swarthmore       @ Washington

With only one playoff spot open, Muhlenburg, F & M, and Dickinson still have a shot. I started to call it weeks ago. It may come down to Saturday's game with F & M and Dickinson. IF only I could pick my games as well as this.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 18, 2008, 01:12:10 pm
Picks for 2/20/08

McDaniel-- playoff spot game
Dickinson- they need it to stay in it
Gettysburg-- Like Pat said..they need to win out for NCAA's
Ursinus-- Clean sweep time
Swarthmore-- can't thinkof a need for either..they had an upset

I need a perfect two weeks....... lost crystal ball, rolled off the boat.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 18, 2008, 05:20:02 pm
Picks for 2/20:

This has to be the toughest week to pick'em because some teams can change their playoff position. After looking over all the stats and revenge factors (and reviewing Pat Coleman's comments and paying him $10 for the picks  ;D), what it really comes down to is:  SENIOR DAY.  Seniors on 4 out of the 5 teams will be playing their last home game. Therefore, I am going the emotional route as follows:

Gettysburg
Ursinus
Mcdaniel
Dickinson
Washington
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 19, 2008, 08:48:33 am
Yesterday, I referenced Pat Coleman (in paranthesis) in assisting me for my 2/20 picks. It was written as a joke.

I have met Pat on several occassions at Ursinus, and I respect his insights and knowledge of the players and the teams in DIII. As I have said before, when Pat speaks, people listen.

I apologize for the comment causing any disrespect to Pat and his work in DIII.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 19, 2008, 10:04:23 am
No problem. I took it as a joke.

I've mellowed in my age. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: sunny on February 19, 2008, 01:24:38 pm
SENIOR DAY.  Seniors on 4 out of the 5 teams will be playing their last home game. Therefore, I am going the emotional route as follows:

Gettysburg
Ursinus
Mcdaniel
Dickinson
Washington


Three of the five ... Washington has no seniors.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 19, 2008, 01:56:38 pm
Thanks sunny for the update.  I will still pick Washington but change it from "Senior Day" to "Thank god its our last home game."
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 19, 2008, 08:22:55 pm
Centennial Conference weekly release:
click here; http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2008/CC_MBK_218.pdf

AAnd the updated Stats:\
Click here: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Regional rankings update tomorrow.

Will post Saturdays pick-em's tomorrow and 2/20 results on Thursday.

Have fun and good luck
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 19, 2008, 09:03:36 pm
2/20 picks:

McDaniel: tough call
Muhlenberg: very tough call
Gettysburg: Wheels fall off Dips wagon again
Ursinus
SWAT: some choice
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 20, 2008, 10:18:52 am
2/20 picks:

McDaniel
Dickinson
Ursinus
Gettysburg
Swarthmore

Ursinus could win its 17th CC game tonight.  If so, the Bears would tie F&M's record (set in 2004) for most conference wins since the Centennial went to a full double round robin schedule.  Interestingly, it was Ursinus that kept F&M from a perfect CC record in '04 as Dennis Stanton's 55 points beat the Dips in Collegeville.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 20, 2008, 02:31:32 pm
2/20 picks

McDaniel--hit a dry spell, but seem to be back
Dickinson--do or die
F & M--masochistic
Ursinus--looks like they're going to run the table
Washington--who knows 

Looks like I picked all the home teams.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 20, 2008, 05:16:21 pm

2/20 Picks -

Hopkins @ McDaniel:   McDaniel. Though, it was a tough pick.

Muhlenberg @ Dicksion:   Dickinson. Another close one. Went with home team. Mules miserable on the road.

Haverford @ Ursinus:   Ursinus. Enough said!

Gettysburg @ F&M:   Gettysburg. Heck, even I am a realist and have jumped ship! However, it might be close in Mayser Center.

Swarthmore @ Washington:   Washington, with no conviction. But, the Garnet are winless on the road!

Good luck to all! Regards,

Eric


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 20, 2008, 05:25:44 pm
Final pick-em's for 2008 Saturday 2/23/08

McDaniel            @  Gettysburg
Ursinus              @  Muhlenberg
Washington       @  John Hopkins
Dickinson           @  Franklin and Marshall ( had to spell it out for the final home game)
Haverford          @  Swarthmore

It has been fun. The comments and history that all of you put forth was great. Remember the Athletes, Coaches and Parents made this possible. For those playing thier final home game congrats and good luck in your future choices.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 21, 2008, 08:31:13 am
Good fortune or luck, whatever you want to call it, the Bear's undefeated CC season is still alive. I was not at the game. I watched the live stats, and I went from elation to despair in a heartbeat. Shattuck makes a layout to tie the game with 1 sec left and gets fouled.  Yesssssssssss, I said. Then he missed the foul shot, and then it was  :o to see Noonan called for a foul with .8 secs left for Haverford to win the game. Nooooooooooooo, I said. What were you thinking  ???And then the foul shot was missed. Shattuck took over in the OT and shows why he should be the POY.

Sloppy game for the Bears. Turnovers were 24. Haverford outscored the Bears 23-11 off of turnovers.

On to muhlenberg  :)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 21, 2008, 09:33:25 am
Let me tell you, I have rarely gone through so many emotions in such a short period of time during the final seconds of regulation between Ursinus and Haverford.  But I have to agree, the game was too sloppy. Turnovers have been bothering me all year with this team.  The biggest problem for the Bears was the zone D that Haverford was using (which caused a bunch of turnovers) and their inability to connect on their 3's last night.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 21, 2008, 11:35:11 am
I watched the live stats, and I went from elation to despair in a heartbeat.

Let me tell you, I have rarely gone through so many emotions in such a short period of time during the final seconds of regulation between Ursinus and Haverford. 

Live stats are a great thing, but not when they nearly produce cardiac arrest.  Could this be the longest second of play in Centennial history?  I'm guessing not all of this happened in the final second, but still...what a finish.

From Ursinus Live Stats:

00:01   UC   GOOD! LAYUP by Nick Shattuck        UC 69  HAV 69  TIED
        ASSIST by Remy Cousart
00:01   HAV   FOUL by Mike Fratangelo
00:01   UC   MISSED FT SHOT by Nick Shattuck
        REBOUND (DEF) by Mike Fratangelo
00:01   UC   FOUL by John Noonan
00:01   UC   TIMEOUT TEAM
00:01   HAV   MISSED FT SHOT by Mike Fratangelo
        REBOUND (DEF) by Nick Shattuck
00:01   UC   MISSED 3 PTR by Nick Shattuck
        REBOUND (OFF) by (DEADBALL)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2008, 01:55:25 pm
Actually, it sounds like a lot of it did.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2008, 01:55:51 pm
FYI from Johns Hopkins regarding Saturday:

Due to our men's lacrosse game at Noon on Saturday, February 23rd, a variety of parking lots will be open at an event parking rate of $5-10.  These lots are the Space Telescope Lot off of San Martin and 115 University Parkway (near the corner of San Martin and University Parkway).  Metered spots will also be available, though limited on University Parkway and Charles Street.  The parking lot behind the Athletic Center will not be available due to media and television needs.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 21, 2008, 03:36:09 pm
I was wondering if Live Stats could be sued for causing one's blood pressure to go sky high, possibly leading to cardiac arrest  :-\

Yes, I would agree that it was the longest one sec to be played. I think I was focused/glued on the computer screen for 15 mins.

Anyway, when this was happening, I could nopt help but remember the women's NCAA game between Rutgers and Tennessee (last week ithink). The last few secs ticked down, and then .. incredibly .. the game clock appeared to stop/pause at the 2 sec mark. The pause seemed like an eternity - like the last one sec at Ursinus. Anyway, a foul was called against Rutgers and Tennessee won the game on the foul line with less than a sec remaining. It was a controversal foul call, and ... well, the rest is history. 

I think there should be coach's challeneges and instant replay from now on .. (just kidding   ;D)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 21, 2008, 07:47:15 pm
Results from 2/20/08 pick-ems

Leo                 4 - 1
Diplomanic1       4 - 1
Reserved Seat   3 - 2
r.w.mcnickels     3 - 2
old ends            3 - 2
suetonius          2 - 3

Overall

Reserved Seat    50 - 15 (.770)
Leo                   49 - 16 (.754)
r.w.mcnickels      47 - 18 (.723)
Diplomanic1        35 - 15 (.700)
old ends             44 - 21 (.677)
Suetonius           42 - 23 (.646)

Our season is coming down  to the final set of games... Who will pick from the heart and who from the Gut??

Gook luck and have fun

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 21, 2008, 07:53:55 pm
Picks for 2/23/08

Gettysburg -- need to keep winning to get in NCAA
Ursinus-- perfect conference season on the line- last game showed them not to let up
Hopkins--Last conference game at home--maybe?
Dickinson- they really need it, if Ursinus wins, for that final playoff spot
Haverford-- The Blue Route Special goes to the fords..

Will continue pick-em's during the playoff's
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 21, 2008, 08:25:00 pm
Ursinus and Gettysburg are still 1 and 2 in the regional rankings for Mid-Atlantic Region. IF Ursinus get the automatic by winning the playoff's, might not be  the only team from the conference to make it.

Regional rankings; http://ncaasports.com/basketball/mens/polls/rankings/diviii

The OWPand OOWP for Gettysburg at this point looks good, unless I am reading it wrong they are in the top 10 for regional wins, but the overall ranking for opponents winning percentage is 116 out of 396 schools. That may hurt them unless the win out including the playoff.
click here: http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/08/owp.htm


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 21, 2008, 11:20:32 pm
Okay, we have Dickinson, Muhlenberg and F&M fighting for 5th seed.

If Muhlenberg beats Ursinus and F&M beats Dickinson, then Muhlenberg becomes the 5th seed.

If Dickinson beats F&M and Ursinus beats Muhlenberg, then Dickinson becomes the 5th seed.

If F&M beats Dickinson, and Ursinus beats Muhlenberg, then we have a mess  ??? with all 3 teams tied. Moreover, all three teams will have the same identical record for head-to-head when it comes to the 1st tie breaker. For the 2nd tie breaker, I am confused here. Are they talking about overall record, which in this case - F&M would become the 5th seed with a record of 13-12 vs Muhlenberg at 11-14 and Dickinson at 12-12.

Is this correct, or do I need to take anothe Xanax  ::) 

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: sunny on February 22, 2008, 09:03:16 am
Okay, we have Dickinson, Muhlenberg and F&M fighting for 5th seed.

If Muhlenberg beats Ursinus and F&M beats Dickinson, then Muhlenberg becomes the 5th seed.

If Dickinson beats F&M and Ursinus beats Muhlenberg, then Dickinson becomes the 5th seed.

If F&M beats Dickinson, and Ursinus beats Muhlenberg, then we have a mess  ??? with all 3 teams tied. Moreover, all three teams will have the same identical record for head-to-head when it comes to the 1st tie breaker. For the 2nd tie breaker, I am confused here. Are they talking about overall record, which in this case - F&M would become the 5th seed with a record of 13-12 vs Muhlenberg at 11-14 and Dickinson at 12-12.

Is this correct, or do I need to take anothe Xanax  ::) 



Overall record is never used as a tie-breaker in the Centennial.

The second tie-breaker is record versus the other Centennial teams in descending order from the top of the standings. 

So, first we check Ursinus.  All three teams were swept by the Bears.  Then Gettysburg - again, all three teams swept. 

Now, it gets interesting, since Hopkins and McDaniel *could* end up tied for third, however, if Hopkins wins on Saturday they wrap up third place for themselves.  Working under that assumption, we have F&M winning the tie-breaker as they beat Hopkins once, while Dickinson & Muhlenberg were both swept by the Blue Jays.  (FYI - Muhlenberg has the best record of the three against McDaniel at 2-0, while the other two are 0-2).

If McDaniel and Hopkins were to end up tied (they split the season series) and Muhlenberg-Dickinson-F&M end up tied, I'm not sure what would happen as the McDaniel/Hopkins tie-breaker would depend on who the #5 team is, while the fifth-place tie-breaker would depend on who the third seed is.  How do you figure out either without the other?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 22, 2008, 01:26:33 pm
Thanks Sunny for clarifying the 2nd tie breaker rule, and how it is applied.

If McDaniel and Hopkins were to end up tied (they split the season series) and Muhlenberg-Dickinson-F&M end up tied, I'm not sure what would happen as the McDaniel/Hopkins tie-breaker would depend on who the #5 team is, while the fifth-place tie-breaker would depend on who the third seed is.  How do you figure out either without the other?

Interesting scenario if it comes to that. However, I would not like to see the "coin flip" used. What a shame for a team's fate to be determined by that. If at all possible, there should be a sudden death game for 5th seed if one of the three teams can be eliminated via the tie breaker. Just a thought.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 22, 2008, 02:12:27 pm
2/23 picks

Gettysburg
JHU
Ursinus
Dickinson
Haverford

F&Ms loss of Scovill exposed a backcourt deficiency, Dips are unable to strop treys from raining down from wide open opponents. Also only Rhyner seems to have an ability to score points from the backcourt. Devils will come back to a Mayser Center they have owned for years & clinch the 5th spot in playoffs.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 22, 2008, 02:29:19 pm
My god, I love this stuff !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sunny, I think I can evolve the 3rd and 4th seedings since I now understand the 2nd tie breaker.

If Hopkins wins against Washington or McDaniel loses against Gettysburg, then Hopkins is 3rd seed. Mcdaniel is 4th seed.

If McDaniel beats Gettysburg and Hopkins loses to Washington, then there is a tie for 3rd place. Going head to head with Ursinus, Hopkins and Mcdaniel lost both games. Going head to head with Gettysburg, each split 1-1. BINGO this is where it gets interesting when Dickinson, Muhlenberg and F&M are all tied for 5th place.

In that scenario, Mcdaniel and Hopkins would be matched up against each of the 3 teams tied to see their series head to head record. In that case, Mcdaniel won two series (F&M and Dickinson) and lost Muhlenberg (0-2). Hopkins won two head to head series (Dickinson and Muhlenberg) and then was even with F&M. Therefore, Hopkins would be declared the 3rd seed.

With all this crap said, Hopkins will be the 3rd seed regardless to the outcomes on their games. 

Based on Sunny's analysis, F&M would win the tie breaker for 5th seed because they beat Hopkins once while the other two lost both.

In conclusion, Ursinus should beat Muhlenberg making the F&M and Dickson game the most important game of the year. Whoever wins between F&M and Dickinson is most likely to be the 5th seed provided Ursinus goes undefeated

I rest my care   :)

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 22, 2008, 02:48:07 pm
My picks for 2/23:

Ursinus
Gettysburg
Hopkins
Swarthmore (Haverford has no more heart after tough loss to Ursinus, and will mail in the loss)

F&M - yes folks, I am going the Dips route. The Dips will claim 5th seed. The battle between McNally and Leszczynski will determine the game. My bet is on McNally playing the game of his life.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 22, 2008, 03:14:50 pm
PICKS

Gettysburg--want to make D3 play-offs
Ursinus--complete undefeated season
Hopkins--aid F&M's cause
Franklin and Marshall--with my heart; the horse isn't dead yet
Haverford--for pride
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on February 22, 2008, 05:43:24 pm
Greetings from the home office in Lancaster.  Here is the official CC tie-breaker for men's basketball:
1) Muhlenberg victory vs. Ursinus ... Mules are the No. 5 seed
2) Ursinus win and a Dickinson victory vs. F&M ... Red Devils are the No. 5 seed
3) Ursinus win and a F&M victory vs. Dickinson ... depends on the No. 3 seed as Dips, Devils and Mules are all 8-10

a) if Hopkins defeats Washington ... Blue Jays are No. 3 seed, McDaniel No. 4
b) if Hopkins loses and Gettysburg beats McDaniel ... JHU is #3, Terror #4
c) if Hopkins loses and McDaniel wins ... Green Terror is the No. 3 seed due to best record vs. Gettysburg.  Hopkins becomes No. 4

4) if Hopkins finishes ahead of McDaniel ... and Ursinus and F&M win ... Dips are #5 seed due to 1-1 record vs. Hopkins.
5) if McDaniel finishes ahead of Hopkins ... and Ursinus and F&M win ... Mules are #5 seed due to season sweep of Terror.

see ... just push the "easy" button.  Enjoy what promises to be a great day of Centennial basketball.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 22, 2008, 06:42:19 pm
Boy I am glad the Commish responded. Thanks for the info greatly needed for all of us.

Leo, I have been saying for sometime that the F & M-- Dickinson game is going to see who gets in for the final spot. Hopefully the commish does not have to spend extra hours into Saturday to figure it all out.

 To all of you, may your team have a great game this final regular season event.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 22, 2008, 08:00:47 pm

Folks -

Here are my picks for Saturday, 2/23-

McDaniel @ Gettysburg:   Gettysburg. Bullets win a close one to inch closer to NCAA bid.

Ursinus @ Muhlenburg:   Ursinus. Bears motivated to finish undeafeated in Conference.

Washington@ John Hopkins:   Hopkins. Blue Jays have much to gain with win. Shoremen winless on the road.

Dickinson @ Franklin And Marshall:   F&M. Toughest game to pick may yield closest contest of the weekend. Going with my heart here and the Dips advantage at Mayser Center.

Haverford @ Swarthmore:   Haverford. Mainline contest is another tough one to choose. Fords win one for Chaz in final game over Ian and the Garnet.

Well, there you have it! I have enjoyed everyone's comments and viewpoints. Let's do this again next year.

Good luck to all. Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 23, 2008, 12:44:01 pm
2/23 picks:

Ursinus
Gettysburg
Johns Hopkins
F&M
Swarthmore

Thanks to the Commish for the tiebreaker info, although I might still need some extra Advil.  We'll know what happens in a few hours, I guess...

old ends, I think we should sign you to a contract extension to be next year's pick-em organizer.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 23, 2008, 03:31:08 pm
Well Gettysburg locked up a victory today 78-57 over McDaniel..Everyone got that right.

r.w. contract already signed.. wage to increase 38.672%  from $ 0.00, My wife thinks there is something wrong with my math..

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 23, 2008, 04:08:23 pm
Another one everybody got correct..

Ursinus 72 -- Muhlenberg 69

The one and two seeds have won..

Now it is time for F & M and Dickinson.. who gets the 5th spot??   ???
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 23, 2008, 05:06:46 pm
Hopkins and Washington has gone into overtime.. Hopkins throwing up alot of bricks. 38% from the floor, 1-8 3 point shots, and 69% of thier free throws.. Washington only doing a little better at the 3 point shots.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 23, 2008, 05:23:58 pm
Washington lost to  John Hopkins in o/t  68-69..another one we all picked

Thanks to sonny pointing out the game tracker went south at the end.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: sunny on February 23, 2008, 05:28:41 pm
Washington defeats John Hopkins in o/t  68-67..all of us missed that one.

No. Hopkins won, 69-68.  Gametracker messed up and then was corrected.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pantherdunker on February 23, 2008, 07:03:00 pm
The F and M season has come to an end. I have watched all season long, emphasis on long. I really feel for the kids on that team. My question is, when kids enter the year/program are they better athletes by the end of the season?? I'm not sure if this is truly the case. Are kids being developed throughout the season individually, are they sure of their respective roles, and does this then translate into better team play and chemistry. I think F and M needs to take a long look at their program. This team had more talent and potential in November, whether they were young or not doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 23, 2008, 07:19:11 pm
thanks sonny and I will change my message.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 23, 2008, 07:36:34 pm
Final Regular season pcik-em's results

Suetonius              5 - 0   
Old Ends                5 - 0
Reserved Seat        4 - 1
Diplomanic1            4 - 1
Leo                       3 - 2
r.w.mcnickels         3 - 2

Overall

Reserved Seat      54 - 16 (.771)
Leo                      52 - 18 (.743)
r.w.mcnickels         50 - 20 (.714)
diplomanic1           39 - 16 (.709)
old ends               49 - 21 (.700)
suetonius             47 - 23 (.671)

1. Reserved Seat gets the overall--great job  8)
2. suetonius and myself get the final perfect picks of the regular season.. ::)

will do this again next year with a little twist. I am going to have a first half and second half as well as an overall.
no point spread stuff, just straight up basketball.. Hope to have a lot more people joining in with us.
Watch for preseason warmup picks just to get thing going..

I have had a blast doing this and will keep posting during the off season.. Watch for the playoff pick-em's.
Thanks to everyone!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 23, 2008, 08:36:28 pm
Old Ends, thanks for your work in keeping track of our 'educated' picks.  My crystal ball worked well, except for the blinders on my F&M picks.  Eight of my sixteen wrong picks were on F&M.
However, no one can question my loyalty.
Looking forward to next year.
I hope Ursinus can make a good showing for the Centennial Conference in the NCAAs.  I hope their close games at the end are not an omen for a quick exit.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 24, 2008, 10:03:46 am
Only 1 pick-em for 2/27/08--

This is the second season of pick-em's. If you want I will run it for us till the Final NCAA game for DIV III.
I will know from the responses.

Dickinson  @  McDaniel


My Pick would be McDaniel
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: crambam on February 24, 2008, 01:22:45 pm
So what exactly happened to F&M?  I can really only follow the records, but they looked like they were doing well at the midpoint of the season, and things just fell apart.  Why?

The positive is that they were 4 games better than last season, but the negative is that in the end, they were under .500 and got spanked in the CC.  I know the team is young, but what does the future hold?  At the beginning of the season, the talk on these boards was that the young team was built around some incredible recruits.  Is that still the belief?  Did these players disappoint, or do they just need another year to develop? 

I expect a lot more from F&M. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 24, 2008, 03:11:19 pm
2/27 Pick'em

I am going for a mild upset and pick Dickinson. I am sure that they are feeling pretty good at the moment with some momentum after spanking F&M.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on February 26, 2008, 10:02:45 am
Does anyone know when the all conference team will be posted?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 26, 2008, 10:38:48 am
I think it's usually posted the day of the play-in game, which would be tomorrow.

Any picks?

Here's my first team:

F  Ian McCormick, Swarthmore
F  Tom Leszczynski, Dickinson
G  Dan Capkin, Gettysburg
G  John Noonan, Ursinus
G  Nick Shattuck, Ursinus

Second:

F  Chris Prior, McDaniel
F  Andrew Powers, Gettysburg
G  Chaz Thomas, Haverford
G  Corey Dorsey, Gettysburg
G  Remy Cousart, Ursinus

HM:

F  James McNally, F&M
F  Joe Spierenberg, Gettysburg
G  Kizmahr Grell, Dickinson
G  Matt Hilton, Ursinus
G  Doug Polster, JHU
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 26, 2008, 12:15:29 pm
McNickels:

I agree with everything from 1st team to HM's. I couldn't have done any better.

Player of the Year -  Shattuck (Ursinus)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 26, 2008, 04:39:15 pm
r.w. -- look good infact most of those lead the stats for thier position or are very close to the top:

Conference Stats: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Weelky review will be released tomorrow and may have the all conference selection with it.
It should be interesting if we are close from the early top ten play10 Players.

Nick Shattuck              Ursinus
Dan Capkin                 Gettysburg
Tom Leszczynski          Dickinson
Ian McCormick             Swarthmore
Doug Polster               John Hopkins
Chris Prior                   McDaniel
Chaz Thomaas            Haverford
John Noonan               Ursinus
James McNally             F & M
Mike Bernardini           Muhlenberg

Pretty close,,


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 26, 2008, 07:23:19 pm
So what exactly happened to F&M?  I can really only follow the records, but they looked like they were doing well at the midpoint of the season, and things just fell apart.  Why?

The positive is that they were 4 games better than last season, but the negative is that in the end, they were under .500 and got spanked in the CC.  I know the team is young, but what does the future hold?  At the beginning of the season, the talk on these boards was that the young team was built around some incredible recruits.  Is that still the belief?  Did these players disappoint, or do they just need another year to develop? 

I expect a lot more from F&M. 

crambam, it's hard to say what the future holds.  The last-second loss at Gettysburg sent the Dips into a spiral from which they never recovered.  In some games, the offensive philosophy seemed to be "feed it to McNally and stand around and see what happens."  There was no guard production—zero points—from the starting backcourt in the most important game of the season on Saturday.  The level of guard play is really far removed from what Ursinus has now, and not close to what the Dips have historically had over the years.

Maybe Reserved Seat or someone else can add more on what happened to the Dips, because that was quite a collapse.  As for me, I'm excited about the possibility of two CC teams going dancing next week.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 27, 2008, 09:14:11 am
2/27 play-in pick

McDaniel: Devils looked good against Dips (but who didn't the last third of the season) however the Terrors at home should play better & survive until the semis.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 27, 2008, 05:19:51 pm

Folks -

2/27 Pick -

McDaniel: Although they have not played as well down the stretch, they appear to have more depth and more scoring options than the Red Devils two main weapons Grell and Leczinsky. They also have the advantage of the home crowd and atmosphere which are usually key in the playoffs.

Good luck to all. Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 27, 2008, 05:33:14 pm
2/27 pick:

McDaniel

Hard to pick against Grell and Leszczynski, but Curley's troops should make their first playoff appearance in 13 years a memorable one in front of the home crowd at Gill.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 27, 2008, 05:42:17 pm
Almost forgot.

McDaniel-at home

F&M definitely didn't get the guard play I expected.   The guards didn't create any plays.  Chasen took charge in the Tip-off tournament, but after that he seemed to disappear.
The three-point shooting was inconsistent.  Rhyner had some great days; but often if he missed his first attempt, his shot seemed off the rest of the game.
McNally was a consistent option, but he was still learning how to shot over bigger men that he faced on a regular basis, probably unlike high school.  He should improve next year with a year of experience under his belt.  Baker showed a nice touch on his jumper.  Unfortunately, he seemed to get out of sync with the pushing underneath.  With a little more size, he should do well next.  Selig seems to have improved drastically since his freshman year.  He consistent hustles and picks up the pace for the whole team when he's in the game.
Finally, F&M's defense gave up too many easy shots.  Other teams lite up the court with three point shooting.  In the one point loss to Gettysburg, F&M gave up an incredible amount of fast break points and back door plays.  It's hard too believe they only lost by one point.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 27, 2008, 06:59:23 pm
The Academic Honor roll for the Conference has been posted:
click here: http://www.centennial.org/AHR/Winter_08.pdf

Each and everyone of these Gentelmen show that playing on a team and putting forth all the effort, practice, travel,and game time, has not taken away from the goals that they have set for themself's. Congradulations to all.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 27, 2008, 07:13:39 pm
Just jumped on McDaniel's live stats and saw Dickinson is up by 12 points.

Did not think that would happen that early
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 27, 2008, 07:47:06 pm
Dickinson is up 15 at the half..

Dickinson 18 - 32 from the floor 56.3%, 6 - 9 3 point shots 66.7% and 3 - 3 from the foul line.

McDaniel 9-29 from the floor 31%, 2 -7 - 3point shots 28.6%, 10-12 from the foul line.

McDaniel better start showing home court shooting advantage or watch the next round from bleachers.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 27, 2008, 10:00:37 pm

Folks -

McDaniel's site indicates final score as Dickinson 89 - McDaniel 80. Looks like all of us except for Leo were wrong on this one. What an inauspicious start! Let's hope we do better in the next round

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 28, 2008, 11:40:28 am
All CC Team announced today:

First Team

G-Dan Capkin, Gettysburg * (A) ....................................... ....Jr
G-John Noonan, Ursinus................................ .........................Jr
G-Corey Dorsey, Gettysburg............................. .....................Jr
F-Nick Shattuck, Ursinus + ....................................... ............ Sr
F-Ian McCormick, Swarthmore # ....................................... .. Sr

Second Team

G-Doug Polster, Johns Hopkins (A) ..................................... Sr
G-Kizmahr Grell, Dickinson # ....................................... ........Jr
F-Chris Prior, McDaniel ....................................... ................. Sr
F-Andrew Powers, Gettysburg ....................................... ....... Fr
F-Tom Leszczynski, Dickinson %.........................................Jr

Honorable Mention

G-Chaz Thomas, Haverford # ....................................... .........Jr
G-Matt Hilton, Ursinus ....................................... ...................So
G-Remy Cousart, Ursinus................................ ......................So
G-Tim Kohlrus, Washington ....................................... ...........Jr
F-Joe Spierenburg, Gettysburg (A)....................................... .Jr


+ 1st team All-Centennial in 2006 and 2007
* 1st team All-Centennial in 2007
# 2nd team All-Centennial in 2007
% Honorable Mention All-Centennial in 2007
(A) Named to 2008 Conference Academic Honor Roll


Player of the Year – Nick Shattuck, Ursinus, Sr., F
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 28, 2008, 11:56:57 am
Well done McNickels !!!!!!!!!!!

You selected 14 out of 15 players for ALL CC  Honors. A few players moved up or down from your selection which can debated by all of us.

However, Tim Kohlrus/Washington was selected, and not James McNally/F&M as the only blemish on McNickels picks. I believe McNally deserved HM mention, but I think the F&M team freefall may have affected his consideration.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 28, 2008, 12:37:58 pm
Looking at the Regional Rankings.

It looks to me like the only team that could pass Gettysburg is Widener with a victory over Lycoming & a Gburg loss to JHU. There would seem to be a strong chance of the CC getting two NCAA bids looking at the rankings now. Could the CC get NESCAC-like NCAA consideration by getting three bids? This  would  require the longshot outcome of JHU or Dickinson winning the CC tournmant. Somehow I doubt that the CC would actually be allowed three teams. I don't think an opportunity like this for the CC will come around again anytime soon.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 28, 2008, 04:17:44 pm
Leo, congrats on another POY from Collegeville.  It could be Noonan next year, then Hilton or Cousart, then some Philly-area high schooler yet to enroll at Ursinus, then...

Just four seniors out of 15 players.  Combine that with the dramatic improvement in non-conference play this year (39-25) over last year (24-43), and the future looks bright for the CC -- on paper, at least.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 28, 2008, 04:31:02 pm
Looking at the Regional Rankings.

It looks to me like the only team that could pass Gettysburg is Widener with a victory over Lycoming & a Gburg loss to JHU. There would seem to be a strong chance of the CC getting two NCAA bids looking at the rankings now. Could the CC get NESCAC-like NCAA consideration by getting three bids? This  would  require the longshot outcome of JHU or Dickinson winning the CC tournmant. Somehow I doubt that the CC would actually be allowed three teams. I don't think an opportunity like this for the CC will come around again anytime soon.

Suetonius-

Dickinson upsetting Ursinus, then beating Gettysburg in the final would make it interesting.  Then the committee would at least have to entertain the idea of three CC teams.  Gettysburg's only two regional losses are to the top-ranked team, Ursinus.  That has to work in the Bullets' favor.

Here's how Ursinus and Gettysburg stack up on the D-III strength of schedule index:

http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/08/owp.htm
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 28, 2008, 06:55:28 pm
A great big -- ATTA BOY -- for Leo for call the upset with the Dickinson win over McDaniel. He was the only one who made the gutsy call.

Leo 1

the rest of us 0
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 28, 2008, 07:11:04 pm
Looking at the Regional Rankings.

It looks to me like the only team that could pass Gettysburg is Widener with a victory over Lycoming & a Gburg loss to JHU. There would seem to be a strong chance of the CC getting two NCAA bids looking at the rankings now. Could the CC get NESCAC-like NCAA consideration by getting three bids? This  would  require the longshot outcome of JHU or Dickinson winning the CC tournmant. Somehow I doubt that the CC would actually be allowed three teams. I don't think an opportunity like this for the CC will come around again anytime soon.

Suetonius-

Dickinson upsetting Ursinus, then beating Gettysburg in the final would make it interesting.  Then the committee would at least have to entertain the idea of three CC teams.  Gettysburg's only two regional losses are to the top-ranked team, Ursinus.  That has to work in the Bullets' favor.

Here's how Ursinus and Gettysburg stack up on the D-III strength of schedule index:

IF Suetonius theory works out, I still think that only one of the teams, other than the Conference winner, would get in.

The in region ranking looks very good for both teams, with Gettysburg only two losses to Ursinus. The number in front of both is a different story.
 Ursinus has a OWP ranking of 151, Gettysburg 91. Out of 397 schools Gettysburg sits in the upper 25% while Ursinus is in the top 38%. Ursinus has the two victories over Gettysburg. They might get the the pick.

Hard to say, but let the playoff's tell the final story.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 28, 2008, 07:16:03 pm
Play-off Pickem

Dickinson vs Ursinus
Gettysburg vs John Hopkins..

Since the final is the next day the pick-em's will have to go the above games and then you pick the final game..
as follows

Old ends Picks

Ursinus
Gettysburg

Finals
Ursinus

Good Luck to all and remember it is Leo 1 - 0 the rest of us 0 - 1

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on February 28, 2008, 07:17:31 pm
Well done McNickels !!!!!!!!!!!

You selected 14 out of 15 players for ALL CC  Honors. A few players moved up or down from your selection which can debated by all of us.

 

What he said..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on February 28, 2008, 09:37:59 pm
Final Pick ems:

1st Semi: Ursinus

This will be a barn burner. Dickinson has peaked at the right time and is full of confidence. However, Ursinus will overcome every "piece of the kitchen sink" that Dickinson throws at them.

2nd Semi: Hopkins

Hopkins players are seasoned from last year's playoff experience, and that will provide enough strength to overcome Gettysburg lack of playoff experience. On paper, Gettysburg should win. However, I have a great deal of respect for Hopkins' coach to draw up a game plan that will upset Gettysburg's plan to be in the final. I think Gettysburg players are thinking ahead to their match with Ursinus on Sunday. All I can say, is look what happened last year to Ursinus who was thinking about Hopkins in the final, but Haverford upset those plans. 

Final:  Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on February 29, 2008, 09:02:46 am
Reserved Seat Picks

Ursinus
Gettysburg

Finals
Ursinus

Probably similar to most of us.
Leo is definitely in the driver's seat to win the play-off picks.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on February 29, 2008, 01:34:32 pm
CC playoff picks:

Semifinals:
Ursinus withstands Dickinson by about 7
Gettysburg over Hopkins in OT

Championship:
Ursinus beats Gettysburg by 10
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on February 29, 2008, 05:15:08 pm

My semi-final pick-ems:

Ursinus vs. Dickinson:  Ursinus. Golden Bears just have too much depth and too many weapond for Dicksinson even though the Rede Devils are on a roll.

Gettysburg vs. Johns Hopkins:   Johns Hopkins. This is the tougher of the two games to choose. However, the Blue Jays have been on a roll lately. So, I will take Coach Nelson's saavy and experience over Petrie and the Bullets.

Finals:

Ursinus vs. John Hopkins.   Ursinus. It could be a very close exciting game. But, the Bears are undefeated against Conference opponents. Blue Jays suffer a tough loss.

Good luck to everyone. Is anyone thinking of heading to Salem later next month? Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on February 29, 2008, 08:27:38 pm
Playoff Picks:

Gettysburg: tough call, guess

Dickinson: Major upset, not likely but am in last place with nothing to lose

Final:

Gettysburg: drats only two teams in & no tough CC decision for committee
I may be dreaming, but to pick all the favorites wouldn't be as much fun
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 01, 2008, 07:39:22 pm
to think that not matter what the outcome of the final on Sunday, Leo's one wrong pick has brought this about.
No matter who wins--Leo, Reserved Seat, r.w.mcnickels,and old ends will end up in a tie. Suetonius, could as well, and is the only one who picked Dickinson and Gettysburg. Diplomanic1 picked Hopkins with  Ursinus in the final, as did everone else but Suetonius.

So therefore it look like this
Reserved Seat==Leo==r.w.mcnickels==old ends    2  -  1
Diplomanic1== suetonius                                         1  - 2

Look for NCAA pick-ems with Centennial Conference teams plus some of the other locals..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on March 01, 2008, 08:29:35 pm
You can watch the championship game LIVE on Sunday afternoon at 2 p.m. by accessing Centennial Conference TV - or as we like to call it - CCTV.  The address is rtsp://192.204.144.13:7070/my_stream.sdp.  You will need Quick Time on your computer.  The number of viewers will be limited, so since you folks have been some of our best supporters throughout the season, I thought I'd let you in on the secret to get in early.  Your support of the Conference is greatly appreciated!  Check out our championship page at http://www.centennial.org/championships/basketball/men/
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 01, 2008, 09:24:24 pm
Went to see the Ursinus/Dickinson game and saw 1st half of Gettysburg/Hopkins.

Dickinson played well as it could, but had no answer for Shattuck. It was an unbelievable display of agility, shooting and his will to carry the team on his back. Ursinus's depth was certainly a factor, but the game evolved into a simple plan - get the ball to Shattuck. At times he was double and triple teamed, but he found an open man to dish off the ball for an easy bucket.

I was extremely disappointed in Hopkins. It looked like they were tight and the ball movement on offense was not crisp, and fluid. At the beginning of the game, Gettysburg clogged up the middle very well and dared the Jays to shoot from the outside. There were no such takers on Hopkins team. Hence, the Jays found themselves down 17-2 after 6:30 mins into the game.

Give credit to Gettysburg. They were relaxed and their offensive ball movement was quick and found open shooters or cutters to the basket. I called that one wrong. I guess "Gettysburg hunger" overmatched "Jays playoff experience."

The final game should be a good one.

Actually, I am glad that nearly all of us will be tied with an identical playoff record. I found that all of us are good prognosticators. I enjoyed everyone's analysis of the games, and their team. As McNickels indicated earlier on the trend for Ursinus players being POY, look out for John Noonan next year.  :)

Kudos to Old Ends for "juicing up" the chat board in providing leadership to the pick'em games. Maybe we can all chip in and buy him a new calculator for wins, losses and wining percentages for next year   ;)



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on March 01, 2008, 11:28:39 pm
If you can't get into CCTV, please feel free to tune in D3hoops.com's broadcast at www.d3hoops.com/audio.

But try CCTV first since they do a good job. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 02, 2008, 11:18:38 am
Shattuck's 46 points yesterday were a Centennial playoff record.

Ursinus stifled the Gettysburg offense in the regular season, holding the Bullets to just 35 percent from the field on December 1 and 34 percent on January 19.  Gettysburg needs Capkin and Dorsey to get going early in the game.

Should be a great atmosphere today in Helfferich Hall if history is any indication ('03 in particular was incredible).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 02, 2008, 12:09:05 pm
Kudos to Old Ends for "juicing up" the chat board in providing leadership to the pick'em games. Maybe we can all chip in and buy him a new calculator for wins, losses and wining percentages for next year   ;)

My abacus still works.. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 02, 2008, 04:25:08 pm
Congrats to Ursinus for winning the Conference and getting a bid to the NCAA. Good luck as your new season begins.

Monday night I will put together a little pick-em for the NCAA's
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 02, 2008, 08:45:09 pm
Congratulations to Coach Kevin Small, in perhaps his finest coaching year at Ursinus, leading a bunch of guys to believe in each other and themselves to a perfect CC season. The Championship game was entertaining and exciting down to the wire.

Hats off to the Gettysburg players who played their hearts out. They never quit, and kept pumping in three point shots when it looked like Ursinus was about to break out.  Capkin is an unbelievable player.

However, Ursinus's depth and contributions from everyone were the keys to victory ... Shattuck making drives to the basket to keep the team in the game when down by 5 .... Shema making a key basket with a 6 foot jumper with the shot clock nearly at zero with 1 1/2 mins left ... Noonan making a 3 pointer to take the lead when it counted ... Remy running the offense and fighting for key rebounds ... Hilton making the free throws in the final seconds of the game. Kudos to Brundage for making his free throws and a couple of jump shots. Truly a team effort.

If I had a vote, Gettysburg is a deserving team for the NCAA tourney.

Let the tournament games begin.    :)



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 03, 2008, 07:18:52 am
D3hoops projected the field of teams for the tourney:

http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/08/projected.htm

Encouraging to see Gettysburg listed which makes for 2 teams from the CC in the tournament.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 03, 2008, 01:00:36 pm
Both Ursinus AND Gettysburg will host this weekend:

http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/08/pairings.htm

Hard to believe the CC would have two teams in the dance, let alone both hosting the first two rounds.  Great year for the conference...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 03, 2008, 08:15:51 pm
Here is the NCAA pick-ems---good luck

Ursinus            vs     Baptist Bible
Va. Wesleyan  vs     WPI
Gettysburg      vs     Salem St.
Scranton          vs     Elms

Good luck to all have fun looking them up to get info..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 03, 2008, 08:17:26 pm
Both Ursinus AND Gettysburg will host this weekend:

http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/08/pairings.htm

Hard to believe the CC would have two teams in the dance, let alone both hosting the first two rounds.  Great year for the conference...

Could not agree with you more... If they have a great run will help even more...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on March 03, 2008, 09:06:15 pm
Here goes nothing:

Ursinus--should be a good start
Va. Wesleyan--stronger schedule
Salem St.--witch hysteria
Elms--off season for Scranton
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 03, 2008, 09:25:29 pm
Here is a stat Breakdown for UC's game
                   Ursinus                Baptist Bible
PPG                    78.7                     72.1
Opp PPG              66.0                     66.0
RPG                    37.5                     38.3
Opp RPG              32.8                     33.1
FG %                   0.505                   0.463
Opp FG %             0.390                   0.406
3P %                   0.427                   0.358
Opp 3P %             0.301                   0.317
FT %                   0.737                   0.714
Assists per game   15.7                     15.89
TO's Per Game      16.7                      19.0
T/O Margin        - 2.19                      -2.3
Blocks Per Game    3.63                     2.52
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 03, 2008, 09:31:02 pm
Here's a stat breakdown for GC's game:

                    Gettysburg               Salem St.
PPG                      73.0                     87.4
Opp PPG                67.3                     72.9
RPG                      34.2                    46.5
Opp RPG                36.8                    39.2
FG %                    0.481                  0.466
Opp FG %             0.391                  0.407
3P %                    0.344                  0.381
Opp 3P %             0.348                  0.305
FT %                    0.764                  0.671
Assists per game     16.04                   14.1
TO's Per Game         15.8                    17.2
T/O Margin            -1.92                    +2.1
Blocks Per Game      6.0                        5.4
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 03, 2008, 09:36:56 pm
I am going to do the picks for the NCAA tourney

Ursinus            vs     Baptist Bible - I really think UC gets its done for its first NCAA tournament win under Kevin Small. 

Va. Wesleyan  vs     WPI - The marlins know how to get it done when it really counts (2 straight years in the National Championship

Gettysburg       vs     Salem St. - This one is going to be close based on the numbers, could go either way

Scranton          vs     Elms - flipping a coin
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 03, 2008, 10:48:22 pm
NCAA picks

Ursinus: Bears get gorilla off back, but BBC is better than you think & game should be competitive

Virginia Wesleyan: Marlins will soar, have pedigree to go deep

Gettysburg: Will find way to get by frequent dancer at Bream

Elms: Scranton team not reminiscent of the old time Rockin' Royals under Bessoir

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: saratoga on March 03, 2008, 11:05:31 pm
Ursinus over BBC, VWU over WPI & in the finals...VWU over the Bears by 4. At G-burg...they knock off the Witches & Scranton takes care of the Trees. In the championship...the Royals fire at will & take down G-burg by 8. They may not be Bess's Rock & Roll Royals...but, they arn't bad either. Two more wins this weekend & the Fosters will be flowing in Scranton...underestimate at will.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 04, 2008, 08:43:11 am
NCAA Pick ems:

Ursinus (the monkey will get his banana for the win)
Virginia Wesleyan (have you seen their mascot, that is one scary Marlin)
Gettysburg (what can I say Capkin, Capkin, and more Capkin)
Scranton (the historic Steamtown museum will chug along for the win)

Welcome to the new prognosticators. We welcome your insight, anaylsis, wit and your money  :)

Rumor has it that Old Ends will offer a free trip to Salem with final's ticket to the best overall record   :o
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 04, 2008, 05:58:47 pm
Thanks bearsfan1 for the stats--
Saratoga --FYI-- if you want me to count the finals you picked I will, but I will post another right after the games for the finals. Let me know

Old ends picks..
Ursinus-- Conference loyality
VaWesleyan--did not get to #18 for lousy play
Gettysburg--Conference loyality
Elms--won thier conference just think they may go futher than most think..

Leo-- with the cost of fuel, anymore, walking or biking would be a better choice for a free ride.

As soon as the games are over I will post the pick-em's for the next day..As long as you pick before game time it will count.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 04, 2008, 06:39:26 pm
Stats March 2nd:

Click here:  http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

After the NCAA's would like to look at next year's thoughts.. I did notice that Dickinson had three Juniors in the top 25 of scoring...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 05, 2008, 06:56:16 pm

NCAA Pick-Ems -

Ursinus - its finally time for Shattuck and company to win a few in the Big Dance.

Virginia Weslyan - lots of tourney experience. Playing good at the right time.

Salem State - Tough game to pick. Stats appear to favor Salem. Over 12 more rebounds per game for Salem. Have always been a physical program. Perhaps, too physical for the Bullets.

Elms - Another close game. I'm opting for experience in this one.

Good luck to all, Regards.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 05, 2008, 06:58:00 pm

Nice to hear from a long-time poster like Saratoga. Welcome to the fun!

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: saratoga on March 05, 2008, 10:52:58 pm
Old Ends: Those calls were my first instinct (even though somewhat biased )...so for what it's worth, I'll stick with them. Diplomaniac 1...this really is a great time...even if it ends way too soon, the ride is certainly worth every ounce of sweat these kids poured out since October. Hopefully, Scranton & F&M can hook up soon in the regular season rather than the usual scrimmage they have & occasional tournament game.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2008, 11:54:16 pm
D3hoops.com will be broadcasting both of the Centennial Conference-hosted regionals. Links will be available at http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 06, 2008, 06:12:15 pm
So it looks like the pick from the website is UC getting to the elite eight.  I hope that does happen. As a loyalty pick, I have them winning it all in my bracket.  Also the Bears most likely won't have a ton a student support on Friday and Saturday (hopefully) because their Spring Break starts on Friday.  I am hoping a bunch of people stay around for Friday's game at the very least to at least make it a little harder on Baptist Bible.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 06, 2008, 10:26:22 pm
Congrats to those who won the Sportsmanship Award from the Conference:

Click here:  http://www.centennial.org/sportsmanship_team/winter_08.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 07, 2008, 11:19:15 am
The phone company has updated the hills of Maryland, where I live and hook me up today to the 21st century. Now I can watch the POD cast and everything else D3 has. Feel like I have a new toy..with speed..
69 year old man can now look things up faster rather than wait forever.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 07, 2008, 01:07:24 pm
NCAA First Round picks:

Ursinus: Bears finally get NCAA hex off Kevin Small's back behind a balanced attack.
Virginia Wesleyan: Ton Ton's career continues for at least another game or two.

Gettysburg: Difficult matchup for Petrie's troops, but the Bullets will ride the atmosphere in Bream to a better result than the '02 puzzler vs. Lycoming.
Scranton: Get the feeling from the Landmark board that Scranton's midseason struggles are a thing of the past.  Maybe not Rockin' Royals, but good enough to win tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 07, 2008, 01:49:40 pm
Previews, live stats, broadcast information, and more on the Centennial regionals:

Ursinus:
http://www.ursinus.edu/content.asp?page=wintersports/BasketballM/0708/NCAAs/NCAAmain.htm

Gettysburg:
http://www.gettysburgsports.com/Sports/mbball/2008/080303_MBB_NCAA_Regional.asp
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 07, 2008, 08:22:45 pm
Results for 6:00PM games
Va Wesleyan 80----WPI 75
ELMS  71-------------Scranton 53

Saratoga-- you can post another final if you wish since I did not post the 8:00pm games and you do not have to pick until game time tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 07, 2008, 10:07:41 pm
Suetonius is the gettysburg game over.. my live stats locked up
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 07, 2008, 10:20:57 pm
Centennial website reports Gettysburg 95, Salem St. 85.

In Collegeville, it was Ursinus 94, Baptist Bible 76.

A great night for the conference!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 07, 2008, 10:21:10 pm
Results for round one pick-em's
Suetonius             4   -  0
Bears Fan 1          4   -  0
Old ends              4   -  0
Saratoga             3   -   1
Leo                     3  -    1
Reserved Seat      3   -   1
Diplomanic1          3   -   1
r.w.mcnickels        3   -   1

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 07, 2008, 10:24:16 pm
Pick-em's for tomorrow round two

Va Wesleyan       vs     Ursinus
Elms                    vs      Gettysburg

Your picks must be in before tip-off.

Good luck
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 07, 2008, 10:26:54 pm
picks for 3/8/08 pick-em

Ursinus- Had a some what easy game against BB Wesleyan had to work against WPI plus travel
Elms= Better than you think, Gettysburg play had to hard tonight could be a factor
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 07, 2008, 11:04:29 pm
Va Wesleyan       vs     Ursinus - As long as they play like they did in the first half and Shattuck's ankle isn't hurt too bad

Elms    vs      Gettysburg  - Just going with gut.


The UC game was a tale of two halves.

First Half
They came out firing, starting off on a 12-0 run (I think). BBC had no answer for Shattuck, 4 dunks and quick penetrations for easy baskets. UC also played well defensively but I think BBC's first time in the tournament jitters might have contributed to it.

Second Half
UC got burned by back door passes and got caught up on screens through the post leading to easy baskets. It didn't help that Shattuck got fouled hard going for another dunk and hurt his ankle. This was right around the time BBC went on a big run to cut the lead to around 11. He came back into the game and played well but who knows what he will be like tomorrow.

Congrats to Nick on becoming the all time leading scorer in school and conference history.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 08, 2008, 01:04:02 am
NCAA Round 2 picks

Virginia Wesleyan: Marlins may benefit from a possibly injured Shattuck

Gettysburg: Game should be close perhaps home team prevails

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on March 08, 2008, 10:08:05 am
Wild guesses

Virginia Wesleyan
Elms
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 08, 2008, 10:41:03 am
Looks like some incredible individual performances at the two Centennial regionals last night.  In all, five players topped the 30-point mark.

Three of those came in the Gettysburg-Salem St. barnburner:

Andrew Powers, Gettysburg (32)
Dan Capkin, Gettysburg (30)
Marquis Victor, Salem St. (30)

In Collegeville, Nick Shattuck scored 31 in the Ursinus win (and John Noonan just missed the mark with 28).  Tonton Balenga scored 31 in Virginia Wesleyan's win.

The performance by Powers has to be among the all-time best NCAA D-III tournament debuts for a freshman (32 points on 12-for-16 shooting, 13 rebounds).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 08, 2008, 10:47:25 am
Also, congrats to Gettysburg on its first NCAA win in program history, and to Ursinus for its first since 1982.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 08, 2008, 10:50:25 am
NCAA Second Round picks:

Ursinus
Gettysburg

Very few people thought the CC would get two teams in the dance at the start of the season, and even fewer probably thought two would host regionals.  Why stop now?  Homecourt is the difference in two razor close games.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ronk on March 08, 2008, 01:14:25 pm
    Agree about the 3 individual performances in the Gburg-Salem St game. Thinking that Gburg beat a better team last nite than they'll face tonite, but keys will be if Elms can defend the high screen for Powers and whether Gburg's legs will recover for full-court pressure for the 2nd time < 24 hours.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 08, 2008, 02:54:27 pm
Tourney Pick ems:

Ursinus
Gettysburg

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 08, 2008, 04:39:27 pm


Tournament Pick-Ems -

Here are a couple of "coin-flip" choices:

Ursinus vs. Virginia Weslyan:   Virginia Wesleyan

Gettysburg vs. Elms:   Elms.

Good luck to all. Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 08, 2008, 07:40:45 pm
Halftime in Collegeville:

Virginia Wesleyan 44, Ursinus 27

Shattuck hasn't scored in 11 minutes of action.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 08, 2008, 07:43:54 pm
Halftime:

Elms 35, Gettysburg 33 in a tight one at the battlefield.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 08, 2008, 08:38:56 pm
Final in Collegeville:

Ursinus 70, Virginia Wesleyan 64

Bears advance to the Sweet 16.

Huge comeback led by Shema and the supporting cast.  Leo and bearsfan, let us know how it was -- it sounded incredible on the broadcast (great job Gordon).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 08, 2008, 08:48:01 pm
Dorsey at the buzzer!!!!

Gettysburg comes back to win 66-65 after being down double digits, just as Ursinus was.

What a night for the Centennial.  Two teams in the Sweet 16 is simply incredible.  Thanks to Pat and Gordon for broadcasting these regionals.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 08, 2008, 09:12:28 pm
The Ursinus game was incredible.  VWC showed why they have been one the best teams in the country over the last years during the first half.  They shut down Shattuck as he got into early foul trouble. The Marlins simply outplayed the Bears in every facet. I know I am a "little" biased but I thought the referees made some horrible calls and no calls against the Bears. I mean I have never seen a player (Shattuck) get tripped twice and be called for a walk on both occasions. In the second half, the roles totally reversed and it all started with Shema. He got the game reasonably close with some excellent post play on the offensive and the team defense completely came alive.  The crowd got into it and the outcome became familiar (Bears win).  The atmosphere was great even without a student body on campus. Some other observations. Shattuck had trouble tonight because of his ankle, he was not getting the elevation he usually does when he was in the post and came up short on many shots. So it looks like a Centennial Conference Sweet 16 game.  Can't wait!  Does UMass-Dartmouth host the next round?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 08, 2008, 09:13:40 pm
I am just wondering if the crowd coming alive in the last 10 minutes could be felt on the broadcast because I think it really did contribute to the comeback.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 08, 2008, 10:19:46 pm
Sweet 16 games:

Coast Guard vs. Rochester
Gettysburg vs. Ursinus

Ursinus probably has a decent chance of hosting the sectional because of its record and location among the four teams, but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.  Bearsfan, I heard the Ursinus crowd loud and clear on the broadcast.  It sounded like a hostile gym in the second half even without the usual "Hooligans."
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: gordonmann on March 08, 2008, 11:23:53 pm
R.W:

Thanks for the kind words and glad we could be there.  It's a great time of year.

We won't know for certain until tomorrow, but I'd guess Ursinus hosts Gettysburg, Rochester and Coast Guard on Friday.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 08, 2008, 11:30:23 pm
Results for pick-em

r.w.mcnickels          2  -  0               5  -  1
Leo                       2  -  0               5  -  1
Suetonius               1  -  1               5  -  1
Bears Fan1             1  -  1               5  -  1
old ends                 1  -  1               5  -  1
Diplomanic1            0  -  2               3  -  3
Reserved Seat        0  -  2               3  -  3

Since both of our conference teams keep going so shall this.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 08, 2008, 11:38:34 pm
March 14th pick-em

Gettysburg          vs      Ursinus
Rochester            vs      Coast Guard

It is sad that the brackets worked out that our Conference teams play each other and one of them will get knocked off, but at least that means one of them goes to the elite 8.

Good luck to all teams..have the picks in before tip off.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: saratoga on March 09, 2008, 11:49:18 am
Congratulations to both Ursinus & Gettysburg not only on their wins...but, in the dramatic fashion they were accomplished. As old ends stated...too bad they both meet in the 1st. round game but, any way you look at it, they've both had great seasons & hopefully one will continue on to the Final Four. Best of luck to both schools.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: mailsy on March 09, 2008, 12:31:48 pm
This weeks game is the fourth time that Ursinus and Gettysburg meet this season.  Can Ursinus beat Gettysburg four times?  Is that going to be a difficult challenge for Ursinus or is Ursinus just in the Gettysburg players' heads and GC has no chance?  Just a question from someone outside the conference I haven't seen either play.


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Hugenerd on March 09, 2008, 12:34:28 pm
Ursinus is hosting, look for the ## next to the other hosts:

http://www.ncaa.com/uploadedFiles/Sports/Basketball_(M)/BR-08D3MBB.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 09, 2008, 02:00:57 pm
As hugenerd stated, Ursinus is hosting next Friday and Saturday. Should make someone a home town favorite..

here are stats for Rochester and Coast Guard:

Rochester: http://www.rochester.edu/athletics/MBasketball/Stats/2008/teamcume.htm
Coast Guard; http://www.uscgasports.com/statistics/stats_bskm.htm

Enjoy looking them over..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 09, 2008, 05:08:54 pm
My picks

Gettysburg          vs      Ursinus - Hope court advantage wins but 4 wins against any team is a tough challenge

Rochester            vs      Coast Guard - Cinderella stops here
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on March 09, 2008, 09:00:31 pm
Great weekend for the Centennial Conference.

Next round picks
Ursinus
Rochester

I looks like I missed a great game at Gettysburg.  My friend(a graduate of Gettysburg) and I were going to go to the game at the last minute, but figured we wouldn't get seats.  Where were the fans?  Where was the community?  The gym looked empty.  It was more crowded for a regular season game.  I regret not going.  Three three-pointers in the last minute, that's some incredible pressure shooting.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ronk on March 10, 2008, 12:10:31 am
    Attendance surprised me also. Fri nite < 500; didn't expect anybody from Massachusetts, but Scranton had no students either, only players' families, yet there were 1200 at the Scranton women's regional that nite.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 10, 2008, 08:20:06 pm
Here's some information on the Ursinus sectional.  Includes accommodation, dining, directions, and team info:

http://www.ursinus.edu/content.asp?page=wintersports/BasketballM/0708/NCAAs/Sectional/NCAAsec.htm

Should be a great weekend for all involved and the conference as a whole.  Safe travels to those venturing to Helfferich for an exciting weekend!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 10, 2008, 08:25:22 pm
Play-off Pick-em's for 3/14

Ursinus-- They just may make it to the final four
Coast Gaurd--They have won some tough games before this will be another one.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 10, 2008, 09:19:46 pm
3/14 Sectional Picks

Gettysburg: All logic says Bears take Hat Trick + 1. But if Shattuck is slightly impaired, Powers may be able to lead underdogs around & over Shema to the Elite 8. Tough to beat an excellent team four times.

Rochester: Yellowjackets sink the Coast Guard & Swarm toward the Final Four.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Buckeye on March 12, 2008, 11:09:13 am
I'm assuming that the attendance at Gettysburg was lower than expected for the first two rounds because the students were on break...?  I would certainly expect a strong showing at Ursinus from the Gettysburg faithful this week.  Should be fun and I agree that it's tough to beat any team 4 times in a season.  Ursinus probably should win, but you never know... either way it's great for the Conference!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2008, 01:46:53 pm
You may have already done this, but in case you haven't, I encourage you all to register to win the Salem prize package.

http://www.d3hoops.com/salemgiveaway/


• Hotel accommodations for Thursday, Friday and Saturday in one of the Roanoke Valley’s fine hotels, convenient to Roanoke Regional Airport and Valley View Mall, the largest shopping destination in Southwest Virginia.

• Two tickets to the Friday and Saturday sessions at the Salem Civic Center.

• Two tickets to the Thursday evening team banquet, including talks by all four coaches, a player from each team, the introduction of the starting lineup and the ever-popular highlight video.

• Two VIP hospitality passes, giving you sideline access before the game and access to the hospitality room.

• $400 toward your travel cost to get you to and around the Roanoke Valley.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 13, 2008, 01:05:21 pm
Pick'ems:

Ursinus

Coast Guard - Rochester has a better lineup, but Coast Guard has won a couple of tough games as Old Ends indicated, so I go with Coast Guard for a mild upset.

Heh Pat Coleman:  is the Salem prize package mailed to me, or do I have to pick them up at the Call Window   :D ;)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 13, 2008, 01:41:02 pm
NCAA Sweet 16 picks:

Ursinus in OT
Rochester by 5

Gettysburg-Ursinus IV could be one for the ages, but in the end, homecourt will be the difference.

Neer's troops withstand everything Coast Guard throws at them.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 13, 2008, 01:46:32 pm
Around the Nation contains an article on Gettysburg and a clip of Dorsey's buzzer beater:

http://www.d3hoops.com/nation/

I wonder how many hearts stopped when Elms hit the halfcourt shot after time expired.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 13, 2008, 02:05:41 pm
I wonder how many hearts stopped when Elms hit the halfcourt shot after time expired.

Good question. It was clear to me that it was no good but not sure how many others.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 13, 2008, 08:05:48 pm
It seems that  the Centennial Conference is on Spring break. attendence could be low and home court fans may not be as big of a factor as thought.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 13, 2008, 10:10:58 pm
Ursinus's Spring break started last weekend and I thought both games had a decent attendence.  From talk I am hearing, there seems to be a bunch of students going back to school early and alumni coming for the game.  There was also a rumor floating around that Gettysburg would be busing fans in but I am not sure if that will be the case if they are on break too
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 14, 2008, 10:47:49 am

Sweet Sixteen Pick-Ems -

Urinsus over Gettysburg.

Rochester over Coast Guard.

It could be really loud at Ursinus if Gettysburg does bus fans in. I saw that happen a number of years ago in a Centennial Conference title game and they practically took over Mayser Center and made it their own!

Good luck. Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 14, 2008, 11:54:58 am

It could be really loud at Ursinus if Gettysburg does bus fans in. I saw that happen a number of years ago in a Centennial Conference title game and they practically took over Mayser Center and made it their own!


Eric,

That was quite an atmosphere -- good memories for Gettysburg fans I'm sure.  I think you could still smell the aroma of kool-aid in Mayser the following season. :)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 14, 2008, 06:37:23 pm
Rochester up by 1 at the half.
Rochester 26
Coast Guard 25
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 14, 2008, 07:15:28 pm
Coast Guard 51
Rochester 40  4 min left

Upset brewing???
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 14, 2008, 07:31:41 pm
Coast Guard wins the game now awaits the winner of Ursinus- Gettysburg game

Coast Guard 57    Rochester 48
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 14, 2008, 09:09:23 pm
Gettysburg better get hot.. Ursinus up by 17 11:35 to go
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 14, 2008, 09:36:58 pm
Results for 3/14/08 pick-em

Leo                2  -  0                 7  -  1
Old Ends         2  -  0                 7  -  1
r.w.mcnickels  1  -  1                 6  -   2
bearsfan1       1  -  1                 6  -  2
Suetonius        0  -  2                5  -  3
diplomanic1     1  -  1                4  -  4
Reserved Seat 1 -  1                 4  -  4   

as Ursinus wins 79 - 55 over Gettysburg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 14, 2008, 09:38:51 pm
Pick-em's for 3/15/08

Ursinus  vs  Coast Guard

get the pick in before tip-off tomorrow
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 14, 2008, 09:39:31 pm
pick for 3/15/08

Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 15, 2008, 12:25:30 am
Ursinus  vs  Coast Guard - Home crowd is factor

I looked at the box score from the UC-GC game and it said the attendence was 2000.  Boy it seemed like more.  For the five years I have been going to games, nothing has ever come close to the amount of people that were there tonight.  The stands were completely full and every wing of the gym had people crammed into it. Absolutely great atmosphere.  It was truly amazing. Also, for the second straight game, one of the biggest reasons for a Bears win was the inside play of Shema. Go Bears!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 15, 2008, 08:34:06 am
Ursinus plays like a team of destiny. Shattuck at 50% no problem, everybody else plays out of their skin. Shema currently playing at a level I hadn't imagined he would. On the other hand Coast Guard just keeps winning on the road against teams nobody expects them to beat.

E8 pick

Coast Guard: Cinderella has no right to be in the game, Ursinus at home on a roll & don't seem to need Shattuck. It makes no sense so I'll pick the longshot anyway. I'll make a safer pick "Bears Win!"
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 15, 2008, 09:31:39 am
3/15 Pick'em:

Ursinus

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 15, 2008, 12:07:56 pm
Ursinus  vs  Coast Guard - Home crowd is factor

I looked at the box score from the UC-GC game and it said the attendence was 2000.  Boy it seemed like more.  For the five years I have been going to games, nothing has ever come close to the amount of people that were there tonight.  The stands were completely full and every wing of the gym had people crammed into it. Absolutely great atmosphere.  It was truly amazing. Also, for the second straight game, one of the biggest reasons for a Bears win was the inside play of Shema. Go Bears!
Nothing against the home crowd factor, but I am not sure this will be a big deal. Remember, Coast Guard has played two of the three games in this tournament on the road (the third being last night's "neutral" game). And those games have had very hostile crowds, Trinity (CT) (see this (http://www.d3hoops.com/images/2008/trincoll6thman.jpg)) and Mass-Dartmouth. And then, don't forget they had to play at WPI in the NEWMAC championships the week before the NCAA Tournament. In fact, in the 13 game winning streak that CGA is on right now, 8 of those games were on the road - including the last five.

Here is what I wrote on the "Daily Dose (http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/2008/03/14/all-aboard-for-the-16-sweet#comment-5156)" this morning:
As for tonight’s game, I would have to give the advantage to Ursinus… but I bet many have given the edge to Trinty (CT), Mass-Dartmouth, and Rochester in the last two weeks. But, Ursinus has better players inside who can shoot from many points on the floor. They have great guards in Cousart Page and even McGarvey. And don’t forget Hilton who was score-less in the first half and then got at least 12 points in the second half on big shot after big shot.

That all being said, Coast Guard has already beaten their fair share of big men with some incrediable efforts from Prebeck, C. Johnson, and Blum. And don’t forget Hudson who is small, but can out jump nearly everyone on the floor. Several times last night he just seemed to keep rising and rising when going for rebounds our out-shooting taller defenders.

I am really looking forward to tonight’s game. The NEWMAC looks to have their first final four team since 1987 (Clark)… and the Centennial could have their first participant at Championship Weekend since 2000 (Franklin & Marshall).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 15, 2008, 12:34:24 pm
NCAA Elite Eight pick:

Ursinus

I'm probably safer going with Suetonius and saying "Bears."

Coast Guard is playing like a team on a mission, winning several games away from home in hostile environments.  CGA's aggressive defense and disciplined offense will make for a true Elite Eight barnburner, but the incredible run ends there.  With the emergence of Shema and the sharpshooting of Noonan and Hilton (not to mention the 2,000+ that will pack Helfferich Hall), Ursinus will navigate the waters better than Coast Guard tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 15, 2008, 01:52:45 pm


NCAA Elite Eight Pick-Em:

Ursinus.

Good luck. Regards to all.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 15, 2008, 01:59:11 pm

Bearsfan1 -

Not to argue. But I seem to remember a packed house at Ursinus the last time F&M and Ursinus played for the Conference Championship (circa 2004). There had to be 2,000 at that game as well as there were fans standing in the corners near the player benches.

I think it was Luciano's senior year. The Bears also had another big man whose name I don't remember. It may have even been an overtime game. It was a tense, loud, hot, humid (and great atmosphere) even though your Bears beat my Dips that day!

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on March 15, 2008, 04:49:02 pm
Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 15, 2008, 07:33:31 pm
At the half
Coast guard 38 
Ursinus 37

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 15, 2008, 07:37:04 pm
CGA's Grant Johnson appears to be unconscious, hitting 7-of-10 beyond the arc for 21 first-half points.   Noonan with 13 and Shema with 11 for Ursinus.

Sounds like Coast Guard brought a good contingent of fans to Collegeville.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 15, 2008, 08:30:09 pm
this game is giving me a a nervouss condition...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 15, 2008, 08:36:58 pm
overtime-this is driving me to drink again----------
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 15, 2008, 08:56:36 pm
Ursinus wins

Ursinus 82
Coast Guard 76

Now on to salem against Amherst
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: mailsy on March 15, 2008, 08:56:47 pm
Congrats to Ursinus.  A Philly area team going to the final four.  Way to go Bears make the Philly area proud in Salem!!!  Beat Amherst!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 15, 2008, 09:05:05 pm
Results of 3/15/08 pick-ems

Overall

Leo                  8  - 1
Old Ends          8 - 1
r.w.mcnickels   7  -2
Bearsfan1        7 - 2
Suetonius        5 - 4
Diplomanic1     5 - 4
Reserved Seat 5 - 4

Correction made  thanks rw

What a game............

Will keep pick-ems going right to the end since Ursinus is keeping the Centennial in it. This is great for the Conference and all teams that they faced in the conference..

Good luck to the Ursinus team at Salem.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 16, 2008, 09:32:35 am
Final 4 pick-ems

Washington U   vs  Hope
Ursinus              vs Amherst

Good luck to all the teams that have gotten to this point.

Must be in by tip off
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 16, 2008, 10:52:00 am
Congrats to Ursinus on making it to Salem! 

Strange to think that just a few weeks ago, the question was whether the Bears could win a game in NCAAs and get that monkey off their backs.

overtime-this is driving me to drink again----------

old ends, it was keeping me on the edge of my seat also -- and I'm not even an Ursinus fan, just rooting for the conference.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 16, 2008, 10:54:52 am
Bearsfan, Leo -- are you guys making the trip to Salem?  I hope Ursinus has a decent contingent going.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: saratoga on March 16, 2008, 12:09:28 pm
Congratulations to Ursinus...looks like its been a true team effort with different people stepping up in clutch situations. All the best in the tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 16, 2008, 01:54:57 pm

Bearsfan1 -

Not to argue. But I seem to remember a packed house at Ursinus the last time F&M and Ursinus played for the Conference Championship (circa 2004). There had to be 2,000 at that game as well as there were fans standing in the corners near the player benches.

I think it was Luciano's senior year. The Bears also had another big man whose name I don't remember. It may have even been an overtime game. It was a tense, loud, hot, humid (and great atmosphere) even though your Bears beat my Dips that day!

Eric



That was a year before I got to UC and with it being the first year of UC hosting a championship, I can imagine it was packed and loud.  I think the other big man you were talking about was Steve Erfle.

Last night was another incredible atmosphere.  Stands (student section at least) was pretty full a full half hour before the game. Great support.  Whoever said it before the game, Coast Guard was definitely not intimidated by a loud crowd and their fans made their presence known.  Players from Ursinus stepped when needed. Shema and Noonan in the first half.  Shattuck in the beginning of the second half and Cousart with the big FT's at the end.  So awesome.  I am so proud of the players and Coach Small.

I will not be making the trip to Salem because I just started a new job and there is no way I could ever get to the Friday game. 6+ hours is just too far for me for Saturday. I would like to be there but I'll be cheering from home.  Are any of the games on TV?

My Picks
Washington U  vs  Hope - Blind pick for the #1 team in the country
Ursinus             vs Amherst - Going with my heart
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 17, 2008, 10:00:51 am
Final 4 picks

Amherst: defending champ, 1st time they were in FF they were 4th, look at them now.
Wash U: a guess in what should be two well matched teams

In another thought. I think the CC has shown they are an excellent league & I believe it is the strongest in the region top to bottom in spite of not generally getting much respect. In addition if all players come back the CC could be clearly better next year. I am sure Ursinus will be tough every year, they seem to get most of the top recruits these days, but I would think Gettysburg should be the definite favorite for the CC. Almost all the teams are young & many have no key (or any) seniors graduating this year. The tough cauldron that got UC & GC ready for their tourney runs wil prepare next years team(s) even better for a Final Four trek. My thoughts anyway.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 17, 2008, 01:28:29 pm
Feature on the front page of interest to Final Four participants and fans here.

Faces of a champion (http://www.d3hoops.com/features/index.html)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 17, 2008, 05:35:27 pm
This is an article in the Ct. newspaper about the Coast Guard team.
click here; http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=d35f2a22-1987-4dfa-84b0-8593601fafc6

Which is nicer than the local Philadelphia paper about Ursinus.
Click Here: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20080316_Ursinus_reaches_Division_III_Final_Four.html

Will get some team stats for your review.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 17, 2008, 05:46:08 pm

Which is nicer than the local Philadelphia paper about Ursinus.
Click Here: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20080316_Ursinus_reaches_Division_III_Final_Four.html


This does bring up a good point.  I understand the Philadelphia Inquirer is a big paper that has to cover a lot and they have many Division 1 teams to report on but how about a little love for a local team that is on the verge of a possible National Championship in a  major sport.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 17, 2008, 05:46:22 pm
Here is Washington U--: http://bearsports.wustl.edu/mensbball/teamcume.htm


Here is Hope: http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0708/hopem.htm

And here is Amherst; http://www.amherst.edu/~sports/current/m-bball/teamcume.htm

Enjoy


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 18, 2008, 09:32:35 am
Composure and Resilient.

These two words come to my mind when I think of the Ursinus season and the Sectional game against Coast Guard. Helfferich gym was rock in, and Coast Guard fans were in force and made themselves heard throughout the game.

The last 3 mins of the game and throughout overtime, everyone was standing. Ursinus had several surges in the game, but Coast Guard came back. Grant Johnson was shooting lights out in the first half for Coast Guard. Kinda reminded me of Dennis Stanton against F&M on 2/7/04 when he scored 55 pts. Fortunately, Coach Small made half-time adjustments and the team shut him down in the 2nd half.

When Coast Guard went ahead by 2 with 30+ secs left, the team did not panic. Certainly Remy Cousart was the hero that night, sinking 2 free throws with 17 secs left, and then making 2 critical baskets in overtime. Shema, Noooooonan, Hilton, and everyone else played well to support Shattuck. Team play gets you through the tough times. 

Now it is on to Salem and against the defending champs Amherst. D3hoops.com website has a poll on who will win. With 139 fans voting, Ursinus has a 10.8% chance of winning. Amherst and Hope are the prohibitive favorites to meet in the championship game.

In my opinion, the game against Amherst will be a classic duel between Amherst’s front court players (in the paint style) versus Ursinus’s back court players (shooting and driving style). I look forward to the game and see who imposes their style of game on the other. Obviously, Shema will be the key. The game against Coast Guard was a godsend to the team because Coast Guard played so physical. It showed that Ursinus can play against a physical team, and Shema did well. Amherst's basketball website has some good stats in its release about both teams  (https://cms.amherst.edu/athletics/teams/winter/basketball-m/articles/2007_08/0317_final_four)

I think the other factor is what I have read and heard (on audio) from D3hoops.com about Salem Civic Arena where the sight lines can be somewhat difficult for shooters.

Travelling  1 ½ hours to Ursinus is my max from South Jersey. I may consider going to Salem if McNickels is a good divorce lawyer and can represent me (Pro Bono).  ;)
Old Ends, great work on the articles and postings for us to read. You are the "CNN correspondent" for DIVIII basketball  :)

Go Ursinus Go.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fpc85 on March 18, 2008, 10:39:23 am

In my opinion, the game against Amherst will be a classic duel between Amherst’s front court players (in the paint style) versus Ursinus’s back court players (shooting and driving style). I look forward to the game and see who imposes their style of game on the other. Obviously, Shema will be the key. The game against Coast Guard was a godsend to the team because Coast Guard played so physical. It showed that Ursinus can play against a physical team, and Shema did well. Amherst's basketball website has some good stats in its release about both teams  (https://cms.amherst.edu/athletics/teams/winter/basketball-m/articles/2007_08/0317_final_four)

Go Ursinus Go.

the jeff bigs are pretty versatile...post or perimeter play they do both well.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 18, 2008, 11:36:08 am

For another perspective about Amherst, go to the Northeast Region and select NESCAC MBB. The postings about the upcoming game with Ursinus (from Amherst fans and non-fans) is interesting reading. I appreciate fpc85's posting here to dispel any notion that Amherst's front court are only big men with no perimeter game. However, if one looks at Amherst's loss to Bowdoin College in their tournament and Bowdoin's roster of "small" players, one has to wonder how Amherst lost such a game. Granted, shooting only 45% to 57% for Bowdoin is the factor, but one would think why Amherst didn't kill Bowdoin with an inside game. Any perspective from the Jeff fans ?



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 18, 2008, 12:14:55 pm
Amherst seems to have at least five perimeter scoring threats.  I remember when the Jeffs beat F&M in the 2004 Elite Eight, it seemed like most players in Hixon's lineup were capable of the deep shot. 

That said I think it's dangerous to underestimate Ursinus -- one poster on the NESCAC board says Amherst should win "with ease."  The Bears have proven they can beat NESCAC teams this year, and although Amherst is a step above Middlebury and Trinity, I think Small will have his team ready on Friday night.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 18, 2008, 12:28:35 pm
Travelling  1 ½ hours to Ursinus is my max from South Jersey. I may consider going to Salem if McNickels is a good divorce lawyer and can represent me (Pro Bono).  ;)

I think you should roll the dice, Leo.  It's worth it just to see the atmosphere in Salem, and especially if your team wins.  Maybe the Ursinus athletic department can chip in to help with your legal fees...   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: La Verdad on March 18, 2008, 03:14:46 pm
Granted, shooting only 45% to 57% for Bowdoin is the factor, but one would think why Amherst didn't kill Bowdoin with an inside game. Any perspective from the Jeff fans ?

Bowdoin was pretty creative on defense that night, but for the most part they just packed it in with a 2-3 zone, making it difficult for the amherst bigs to get decent looks.  That, coupled with a poor shooting night (the 4 senior starters were combined 11-35), ultimately led to the loss.  If ya'll are looking at the stats trying to get a handle on Amherst's team, you should consider this game an outlier.

You'll have to forgive the posters on the nescac board who seem to be taking Ursinus lightly, I assure you Coach Hixon and his squad will do no such thing.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: La Verdad on March 18, 2008, 03:20:29 pm

In my opinion, the game against Amherst will be a classic duel between Amherst’s front court players (in the paint style) versus Ursinus’s back court players (shooting and driving style). I look forward to the game and see who imposes their style of game on the other. Obviously, Shema will be the key. The game against Coast Guard was a godsend to the team because Coast Guard played so physical. It showed that Ursinus can play against a physical team, and Shema did well. Amherst's basketball website has some good stats in its release about both teams  (https://cms.amherst.edu/athletics/teams/winter/basketball-m/articles/2007_08/0317_final_four)

Go Ursinus Go.

the jeff bigs are pretty versatile...post or perimeter play the do both well.

FPC is right, with the exception of Hopkins and Holsey, all the Amherst bigs have game that extends out to and beyond the perimeter. 

Anyone want to fill me in on Ursinus?  It would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fpc85 on March 18, 2008, 05:27:41 pm

For another perspective about Amherst, go to the Northeast Region and select NESCAC MBB. The postings about the upcoming game with Ursinus (from Amherst fans and non-fans) is interesting reading. I appreciate fpc85's posting here to dispel any notion that Amherst's front court are only big men with no perimeter game. However, if one looks at Amherst's loss to Bowdoin College in their tournament and Bowdoin's roster of "small" players, one has to wonder how Amherst lost such a game. Granted, shooting only 45% to 57% for Bowdoin is the factor, but one would think why Amherst didn't kill Bowdoin with an inside game. Any perspective from the Jeff fans ?




the bowdoin game is a classic upset...one team playing very well and the other playing below average...it happens and it may have been the best thing for the jeffs.

the question i have is how ursinus lost to williams?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fpc85 on March 18, 2008, 05:31:44 pm
Amherst seems to have at least five perimeter scoring threats.  I remember when the Jeffs beat F&M in the 2004 Elite Eight, it seemed like most players in Hixon's lineup were capable of the deep shot. 

That said I think it's dangerous to underestimate Ursinus -- one poster on the NESCAC board says Amherst should win "with ease."  The Bears have proven they can beat NESCAC teams this year, and although Amherst is a step above Middlebury and Trinity, I think Small will have his team ready on Friday night.

i don't think the jeffs will underestimate a final four team...this is where they have played for all year. if they lose it won't be because they looked past ursinus but b/c ursinus was better that day.

ursinus has a special place in my heart b/c one of my former players played there a few years ago (naquan williams).
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 18, 2008, 06:36:40 pm
the question i have is how ursinus lost to williams?

Well fpc85, the game against Williams was so early in the schedule and Coach Small's team tend to play early games as if they are exhibition games. Unlike Amherst losing in the tournament at the end of the season where one should be peaking, I would be more concerned about an end of season loss to an inferior team than an early season contest.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 18, 2008, 06:36:43 pm
Picks for the Final four Semi

Washington U
Ursinus

Just a Centennial boy (69yrs old) cheering for the home conference team. All of the teams that have gotten to this point deserve a ton of credit to the coaches and players and fans. Mostly to the parents who have given more than some fans know. Coaches for inspiring and giving the knowledge of the game. Players who practiced who played and did it some more to get to this point. To the fans who cheer for the team, who show up for the bad and good years, and kept their college at heart even after becoming Alumni..

TO the D3 posters who keep the good banter going. Even asking questions, because( speaking personally) we are not all experts.

Good luck to all teams who made it to  Salem.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on March 18, 2008, 07:01:51 pm
Leo, if you're an Ursinus fan or have never been to the D3 finals, you should attend.  I've attended all 4 of F&M's Final Four adventures.  My wife was very understanding for the last three.  I wasn't married for the first one, but I was dating my future wife.  She knew what she was getting into.  F&M's best chance to win was in '79, but they got overwhelmed in the first half of the first game.  However,  from then on in that game and the consolation game they played excellent ball.
PICKS
Amherst-they were there last year and use to the atmosphere(but it would be great of Ursinus would
                         win--it would earn some respect for Centennial--even though the play of Ursinus and 
                         Gettysburg this year has already helped}
Hope-always has a solid team
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: fpc85 on March 18, 2008, 08:08:41 pm
the question i have is how ursinus lost to williams?

Well fpc85, the game against Williams was so early in the schedule and Coach Small's team tend to play early games as if they are exhibition games. Unlike Amherst losing in the tournament at the end of the season where one should be peaking, I would be more concerned about an end of season loss to an inferior team than an early season contest.
lol...no concerns on my part...sometimes a loss like that will wake up a team...just as talk from an upcoming opponent may provide more motivation to play well.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 18, 2008, 09:39:46 pm
Reserved Seat. Although I couldn't go to Rock Island in '79 I did listen to the game on the radio. I recall the Dips having a modest lead on the legendary North Park squad but blew all or most of it in the last 2-3 minutes of the 1st half, including some unusual lapses by the great Donny Marsh. The Dips held there own against All-Americans Modzel Greer (was in NBA) & 7 footer Harper (also played in NBA) but got killed by a 6'8" reserve named French & Vikes steadily pulled out to a 9-10 point win. I hope my memory is fairly accurate, it made quite an impression.
Perhaps the Dips best chance came in '91 in Springfield, OH when I made my only FF trip thus far. After upsetting a favored NJAC team by 50+ in the Semis they Dip starters battled Bo Ryan's UWP team to a near standstill (?tied at the half), but their second team was as good as their 1st unit & the Dips rarely went to more than 7 players. F&M kept fighting back to stay in game in the second half & lost by 7.
Although I didn't see it in person the Dips lost 2 last second heartbreakers in '00 in Salem.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 18, 2008, 11:37:52 pm
Reserved Seat, I appreciate your words of support. I am a Ursinus fan, not because of graduation, but because a family member attended the school and was recognized as a 1st team all Centennial player. At the age of 54, I deeply enjoy watching the "kids" learn and grow, and see them experience "the good and the bad times" that will become lasting memories for life after basketball. Coach Small is a phenominal person who relates so well with these kids and transcends his knowledge of the game to the kids. 

This year's team is really something special and I am sure you can say the same about the great F&M teams. Getting to the final four is something special.

My plan for Friday is to rent the movie "Hoosiers", watch it around noontime ... have my pregame meal afterwards  ;D  ... and then watch the videostream at 5:00 pm.  As for now, I am practicing my impersonation of Dennis Hooper (from Hoosiers) jumping on the bed yelling "we won, we won, we won"  :D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 19, 2008, 12:53:02 am
Don't forget to listen to the pregame show starting at 3.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 19, 2008, 11:19:49 am
Pick'ems:

Ursinus
Hope

Ursinus and Amherst played 3 common opponents - Williams, Middlebury and Trinity (Ct.). I am discounting Ursinus's game against Williams because it was their 1st game of the season, and frankly, not a good indicator of where they stand.

However, Amherst and Ursinus beat both Middlebury and Trinity. Looking at the stats (fg%, opp. fg%, 3 pointers, rebounds, and TO), no significant differences were noted. I predict that Friday's game will be a barn burner, maybe even overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 19, 2008, 01:52:40 pm
Four Centennial players named to the D3hoops.com all-region team:

http://www.d3hoops.com/all-region/08/matlmen.htm

The CC also swept the individual awards:

Player of the Year:  Nick Shattuck, Ursinus
Rookie of the Year:  Andrew Powers, Gettysburg
Coach of the Year:  Kevin Small, Ursinus

Congrats to all.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 19, 2008, 05:14:39 pm
I know it is a little after the fact, but NCAA wrote a better article on Ursinus's game against Coast Guard then the local Philadelphia paper.

Click here; http://www.ncaa.com/basketball-mens/article.aspx?id=140804

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 19, 2008, 05:17:47 pm
That's Ursinus' press release, also found here:

D3hoops.com Scoreboard (http://www.d3hoops.com/game-releases/2008/Mar/15/Ursinus-vs.-Coast+Guard/kba4ho2p62t2s7s3/25694)

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 19, 2008, 09:12:02 pm
That's Ursinus' press release, also found here:

D3hoops.com Scoreboard (http://www.d3hoops.com/game-releases/2008/Mar/15/Ursinus-vs.-Coast+Guard/kba4ho2p62t2s7s3/25694)



thanks, I must learn to look there first... It is the local press that really dropped the ball for a home town team.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 20, 2008, 10:20:50 am
here are some more nice articles about Ursinus

click here: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080320_Ursinus_Shema_tells_tale_of_basketball_perseverance_as_team_heads_to_Division_III_Final_Four.html

and here: http://www.pottsmerc.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/Daily;jsessionid=2LLVHvfQRSf41Q5tX0q3vyskSJ0JvxpCwq2W9NMmh2sQyB2HlTcf!1656221429?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pg_article&r21.pgpath=%2FPTM%2FSports&r21.content=%2FPTM%2FSports%2FTopStoryList_Story_1767104

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 20, 2008, 11:23:24 am

Old Ends -

Re: your 3/18 post. Excellent well said thoughts! Amen!

Over the years, I have seen many F&M players' parents travel 3 or 4 hours each way to attend games on a weeknight.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 20, 2008, 11:40:31 am

Reserved Seat -

Re: your 3/18 post. You are absolutely correct there is nothing quite like seeing a final four in person. There is no other atmosphere like it! It is also a really neat opportunity to interact with the families, firneds, and fans of the other teams. Outstanding sportmanship abounds throughout the area's arena, restaurants, and hotels.

I also attended 3 of the 4 Final Fours that the Diplomats played in. I missed Rock Island in '79 as I was a poor student. I made trips to Springfield and twice to Salem. The Dips were clearly the underestimated underdogs in Springfield and won over the fans from Wittenberg, whose pep band played for F&M in both games. F&M did have some real chances to win that game. But, they probably weren't deep enough.

With Jeremiah Henry sick during their first trip to Salem, my feeling was that they were never really in the games against Hope and Illinois Wesleyan. The Championship game between Hope and Rowan featured on of the best individual performances I ever saw. One of Hope's guards, Joel Holstege, shot the lights out and finished with 47 points. He put his team on his back almost single-handedly carried his team to a win over Rowan! A side note, Illinois Wesleyan won the Championship the following year. I think they beat Alvernia in the final game.

For my money, the F&M vs. Calvin semifinal game was once of the best games I ever saw. Nip and tuck and back and forth throughout. A close game that either team could have won on the final shot! Just an amazing tense atmosphere.

As a Centennial Conference fan, I hope Ursinus shows well. I wish the bears good luck.


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 20, 2008, 11:57:39 am

As a Centennial Conference fan, I hope Ursinus shows well. I wish the bears good luck.


Trust me Diplomaniac1, the Bears will represent us very well. Their game against Coast Guard was very physical, and that experience will go a long way. I am sure Amherst's loss to Bowdoin left a sour taste in their mouth, so they too will be focused. Which means, it will be a hell of a game  :)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 20, 2008, 05:35:50 pm
here are some more nice articles about Ursinus

click here: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080320_Ursinus_Shema_tells_tale_of_basketball_perseverance_as_team_heads_to_Division_III_Final_Four.html

It's good to see coverage of Shema -- what a great story.  I didn't know his parents were from Rwanda.  It seems like his career is peaking at the perfect time.

For my money, the F&M vs. Calvin semifinal game was once of the best games I ever saw. Nip and tuck and back and forth throughout. A close game that either team could have won on the final shot! Just an amazing tense atmosphere.

Eric-

I agree, it was one of the best I've ever seen.  Cinderella vs. goliath, with goliath winning at the buzzer.  I have permanent scar tissue from that game.  Wish I could have attended the '79 and '91 Final Fours that you guys have been talking about, but I enjoyed reading your stories.

Whatever happens this weekend, I know the Bears will represent the conference well.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 21, 2008, 01:24:17 pm
NCAA Semifinal picks:

Amherst
Washington

I hope I'm wrong on the first one.  Ursinus has the weapons to win, but Amherst has Olson and Final Four experience.  If Hilton and Noonan shoot the lights out, and Shema plays the game of his career, Ursinus can win -- I just think that's asking too much against Amherst's experience and talent, especially with Shattuck limping around.

Wash U. wins the second game and sends the Dew Crew back to Michigan disappointed.

Enjoyed reading the front page article on Ursinus and Shema today.  Good luck to the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: bearsfan1 on March 21, 2008, 02:09:56 pm
Crossing all my fingers

GO BEARS!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 21, 2008, 03:13:39 pm

NCAA Semi-Final Picks:

Ursinus vs. Amherst:   Amherst.

Hope vs. Washington:  Hope.

Good luck to Ursinus. Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 21, 2008, 04:52:57 pm
All hooked up and ready to hopefully watch and listen to the game.

3 of us have picked The Centennial champ Ursinus and 4 have not.
3 of us picked the Washington  Bears and 4 have not.

Good luck to all
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 21, 2008, 05:46:44 pm
Was hoping for a closer score at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 21, 2008, 06:47:36 pm
What a great run for Ursinus. Amherst was the better team today.

Amherst 84 Ursinus 58
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 21, 2008, 07:52:01 pm
http://www.pottsmerc.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/Daily?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pg_article&r21.pgpath=%2FPTM%2FSports&r21.content=%2FPTM%2FSports%2FHeadlineList_Story_1774678

and this one: http://www.delcotimes.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/Daily?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pg_article&r21.pgpath=%2FDCT%2FSports&r21.content=%2FDCT%2FSports%2FHeadlineList_Story_1775008

just a few articles I found enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 21, 2008, 08:56:59 pm
Final Finals Pick-em

Ursinus vs Hope
Amherst vs Washington

You have till tip off to get you final picks in..

Enjoy.. I Have..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 21, 2008, 09:03:10 pm
It looks like it is coming down to the final final.

Suetonius             2  -  0
r.w.mcnickels        2  -  0
Reserved Seat      1  -  1
Diplomanic1          1  -  1
Old Ends             1  -  1
Leo                     0  -  2
Bears Fan1           0  -  2

Overall

r.w.mcnickels         9  -  2
old ends                9  -  2
Leo                       8  -  3
Suetonius              7  -  4
Bearsfan1              7  -  4
Reserved Seat       6  -  5
Diplomanic1           6  -  5


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 21, 2008, 09:05:10 pm
Congrats to Ursinus on a memorable season, and for bringing another Final Four banner to the Centennial.

It's hard to regroup for a consolation game after getting knocked out.  Sort of like playing a spring training game a few hours after losing the World Series.  

Good luck vs. Hope.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on March 22, 2008, 08:18:23 am
Final picks

Hope: Ursinus will likely have trouble with getting up for this after the ending of their streak in the semis

Wash U: Perhaps a team of destiny this year, although either could win
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 22, 2008, 10:29:51 am
NCAA Third Place:
Hope

NCAA Championship:
Amherst

Watched part of the Amherst-Ursinus game on video, and the Jeffs look as talented as any D-III team I've seen.  Washington is on a roll, but Amherst has the big guys to contain Ruths.

Hope beats Ursinus in the dreaded consolation game.  D-III should do away with this game -- it gives the fans another game to watch, but the teams don't want to be there.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Leo on March 22, 2008, 11:35:30 am
Pick'ems:

Ursinus Ursinus and Ursinus  :) :) :) :)

Amherst
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on March 22, 2008, 12:31:47 pm

Pick-Ems -

Third Place Game
Ursinus vs. Hope:   Ursinus

Championship Game
Washington vs. Amherst:   Amherst

A great run by Ursinus - Gongrats to the Bears. The injury to Shattuck certainly had to hurt them! However, even with a healthy Shattuck I am not sure that they could have beaten Amherst yesterday. Thanks to Ursinus for representing the Centennial Conference so well. Getting to the Final Four is a real accomplishment to be proud of.

How about those DI upsets yesterday?!? Good luck to all. Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on March 22, 2008, 02:21:34 pm
Final picks
HOPE
AMHERST
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 22, 2008, 03:49:15 pm
Well nothing for nothing here goes:

Ursinus--- got to pull for the conference team
Amherst-- they did beat Ursinus after all.

tip  off start soon
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 22, 2008, 09:49:21 pm
Suetonius picked a perfect 4 games in a row so she gets the MVP of the Pick-em

r.w.mcnickels won the overall pick-em

Congrats to the above for the insite into the game..

Overall finish                                           

r.w.mcnickels              10  -  3
suetonius                     9  -  4
old ends                      9  -  4
Leo                             8  -  5
Reserved Seat              7  -  6
Diplomanic1                  6  -  7
Bearsfan1                     7  -  4

See ya next year for pick-em's, but will continue to post stories as I see them for all to read....

Had a blast
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 22, 2008, 09:55:39 pm
That's Ursinus' press release, also found here:

D3hoops.com Scoreboard (http://www.d3hoops.com/game-releases/2008/Mar/15/Ursinus-vs.-Coast+Guard/kba4ho2p62t2s7s3/25694)
thanks, I must learn to look there first... It is the local press that really dropped the ball for a home town team.
Yes!  +1  :)

What we D3 fans need to do is to make these sites "the" primary site for D3sports, so it can carry long-term economic viability!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 22, 2008, 10:04:27 pm
Hot off the presses.

Click here (http://www.pottsmerc.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/Daily;jsessionid=2Sg6HlrWSyTS4SzrdKJ7BXWnDXtQ65mnJJ4GLmFNF1tnRB2dGjj1!-234095148?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pg_article&r21.pgpath=%2FPTM%2FSports&r21.content=%2FPTM%2FSports%2FTopStoryList_Story_1778738)

I am sure there will be a lot more tomorrow, but check D3hoops first.

Edited for formatting -- Thanks for the link.  Ralph Turner
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 23, 2008, 12:12:08 pm
To the F & M people on the post.. Enjoy a story about fellow Alumni and Basketball player...

 http://www.mcall.com/sports/all-jones.6326241mar23,0,6295843.column
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 23, 2008, 12:19:08 pm
Local papers and others slant on the Ursinus loss in the consolation game.

 Click here.   (http://www.pottsmerc.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/Daily;jsessionid=rG0XHmYRNmhfCrJQv27fD3J1dd4TG6gQB3Ls3W2nKLnp1sW0Jm6J!1656221429?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pg_article&r21.pgpath=%2FPTM%2FSports&r21.content=%2FPTM%2FSports%2FTopStoryList_Story_1781901)
 
And here. (http://www.mlive.com/sports/grpress/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1206246305287530.xml&coll=6)

 And here. (http://www.hollandsentinel.com/stories/032308/localsports_20080323039.shtml)

enjoy articles

Edited for formatting -- Thanks for the links.  Ralph Turner
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 23, 2008, 08:38:29 pm
Congrats to Nick Shattuck, of Ursinus,  for being 2nd team All-American.

go to http://www.d3hoops.com/ for the entire list.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 23, 2008, 08:53:54 pm
Ursinus college's basketball pages write up

Click Here:  http://www.ursinus.edu/content.asp?page=wintersports/BasketballM/0708/322Hope.htm (ftp://http://www.ursinus.edu/content.asp?page=wintersports/BasketballM/0708/322Hope.htm)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 23, 2008, 09:19:39 pm
To the F & M people on the post.. Enjoy a story about fellow Alumni and Basketball player...

 http://www.mcall.com/sports/all-jones.6326241mar23,0,6295843.column

Good story on Jerome Maiatico.  Strange to see Gordie Jones' byline at the Morning Call -- he covered F&M hoops for many years at the Intelligencer Journal.  Given the detail he includes on the 2000 Final Four, it looks like Jones still has some dusty old notes from his days covering F&M.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: La Verdad on March 24, 2008, 08:24:33 am
Congrats to Ursinus on a great season.  Shattuck was far from full strength, but you have to respect a kid that can barely walk going out and playing 38
minutes.  It would have been nice to see them play Amherst with a healthy team; that score would certainly have been much, much closer.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 24, 2008, 04:21:01 pm
The final stats are in:

Click Here: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/Men/2008stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 24, 2008, 05:14:53 pm
Congrats to Ursinus on a great season! It was too bad Shattuck was unable to play at his very best on the weekend, but the team shouldn't hang their heads. They made an incrediable run and deserved to be there.

I also want to say how much I enjoyed meeting and chatting with the McGarveys and the Shattucks at Hotel Roanoke. Nice to see family and fans making the trip to Salem/Roanoke!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on March 25, 2008, 02:50:09 pm
The final Top 25 poll has Ursinus at No. 7.  It's unfortunate that Shattuck wasn't healthy in Salem -- it looks like the voters realized that by keeping the Bears solidly in the Top 10 despite their Final Four showing.

Gettysburg just misses the Top 25, eight points behind Chicago.  I thought the Bullets would end up with a ranking around No. 20 because they went 24-1 against teams not named Ursinus.  With no major losses to graduation, they should get a decent amount of consideration in the preseason poll.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on March 25, 2008, 07:27:28 pm
The Lancaster paper had an article about the local college basketball teams.. you must scroll down to find the info about F & M, but all but one are back for next year.. looking good..

Click here: http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/218629
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ac08 on March 27, 2008, 08:40:28 pm
to echo previous sentiments..
Congrats to Ursinus on a great year. Speaking as an Amherstian, let me say that trips to Salem (regardless of the outcome), motivate current players and pull in fresh, young talent..the benefits you will gain from this experience will far outweigh this past weekends results...I all but guarantee it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on April 05, 2008, 03:45:04 pm
Even though is was noted before, the llocal paper had a nice article about Nick Shattuck and Alverina's Terrence Shawell

Click here: shortened link (http://www.pottsmerc.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/Daily?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pg_article&r21.content=/PTM/_RSSFeed/Sports/TopStoryList_Story_1837677&r21.pgpath=/PTM/Sports)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on July 15, 2008, 04:15:04 pm
Hope summer is treating everyone well.  Here's  an article (http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2008/07/11/sports/asports071108.txt) about McDaniel's recruits that was recently posted on the CC site.  Any recruiting news from other schools?

Also noticed that F&M has a new athletics site, and the basketball page (http://godiplomats.prestosports.com/sports/m-baskbl/index) is much improved.  The Dips have also posted their schedule -- very early compared to most years.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on August 11, 2008, 08:14:13 pm
Thanks for the info RW.. Did you notice the changes in the Centennial Conference pages.. Nice I thought.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on September 02, 2008, 07:04:59 pm
Well highlights and past games can be seen on You Tube:

Click here: http://www.youtube.com/centennialconference (http://www.youtube.com/centennialconference)

Enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pizzashop on September 05, 2008, 07:13:34 am
F&M Hoops Class of 2012: http://godiplomats.com/sports/m-baskbl/2008-09/news/2008-09_Recruits
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on September 22, 2008, 11:30:29 am
It is hard to beleive that two months from now the conference teams start play. I have been thinking how to run the Pick-ems. I'll start with the non-conference games just to get us warmed up, and call that the first half. The second half will be the conference games. Looking forward to the start of play.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on October 01, 2008, 04:19:05 pm

Fellow Diplomat Fans -

Greetings! Welcome back! It won't be too long before practices start and the games begin - just under two months. Some of us long-time fans can hardly wait!

I was just on the F&M Men's Basketball Page and notice that the revised rsoter is now posted. It contains some changes from the roster originally posted in early September when the freshman recruiting class was announced. Here is a link to the page:

http://www.godiplomats.com/sports/m-baskbl/2008-09/roster

Some notable highlights - no seniors and nine freshman (three more than initially listed). I thought that Scovill would be a Senior this year. Does anyone know if he received an extra year of eligibility and under what provision? Several underclassmen who played a fair amount of minutes last year apparently did not return. These include: Ryner, Sullivan, Stone, and Rodd. In my opnion, the biggest loss of those is Rhyner.

Does anyone have any thoughts or insights on either the roster or the non-returnees? Here are my thoughs. I suspect that Rhyner was in GRob's doghouse. He could score but wasn't consistent and often got lost on defense. It seemed like he was too fragile for GRob's coaching style. Sullivan never seemd to get the hang of running the offense and also had defensive shortcomings - another fragile personality.

Regards to all. Let the games begin!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on October 01, 2008, 04:22:09 pm

r. w. -

I meant to post this earlier. Thanks for posting the link to the new athletics page. I had not noticed it yet but I also like the new style and format of it.

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on October 05, 2008, 03:10:11 pm
Seems that  few of the schools are keeping the freshman names from us, by only posting last years returning players.

Nov 21 starts the first set of games for the Conference teams, pickems start a few days before that. Some of the games will start on the 22nd of Nov.

It will be here before you know it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on October 08, 2008, 08:53:10 pm
Here is the Conference schedule only. This does not include pre-season games:
Click here: http://www.centennial.org/Schedules/2007-10/PDF/M-Hoops.pdf (http://www.centennial.org/Schedules/2007-10/PDF/M-Hoops.pdf)

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on October 19, 2008, 04:34:03 pm
Pick-em for 11/21

it is early but just so you have a chance to look things over. Will repost the week before

November 21
PSU Harrisburg at Franklin & Marshall
Elizabethtown at Gettysburg
Oglethorpe at Haverford
Moravian at Johns Hopkins
Penn State York at McDaniel
Hunter at Muhlenberg
Swarthmore vs. Vassar
St. Lawrence vs. Ursinus

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on October 20, 2008, 09:06:14 pm
New three point line!!!!

click here: http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=39151 (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=39151)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on October 21, 2008, 08:29:33 pm
McDaniel is ready for tonight:
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2008/10/21/sports/fsports102108.txt (http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2008/10/21/sports/fsports102108.txt)


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on October 23, 2008, 10:08:04 pm
Nice article on D3 hoops

 Gettysburg, Ursinus Earn High Marks in Preseason Men's Basketball Polls
(October 23) - It's been a long time since a pair of Centennial men's basketball teams have received this kind of preseason attention ... but it's been a long time since two teams had a season like Gettysburg and Ursinus did last season. The Bullets are ranked sixth by The Sporting News, while the Bears are pegged at No. 4 by DIII News. Both are top 15 picks by D3hoops.com with Gettysburg coming in at No. 11 and Ursinus at No. 12.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on October 30, 2008, 08:42:10 pm
John Hopkins will be representing the Centennial Conference at an ECAC Holiday Festival in Orlando, FL

Click below  for more info:
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=39939 (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=39939)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D3Basketball on October 31, 2008, 01:30:30 pm
I am very anxious to see how the Centennial is this year.  I could see possibly 4-6 teams here challenging one another for the top spot, with Gettysburg being the top right now.  I may be wrong, but excited for the upcoming Centennial season.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on October 31, 2008, 03:49:58 pm
D3Basketball,

I would agree.  The league would seem to be very well balanced with Gettysburg the early favorite.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 02, 2008, 11:36:56 am
Both Gettysburg and Ursinus are in the top preseason 25.

Could be a good year for the conference as a whole.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D3Basketball on November 04, 2008, 01:22:56 pm
Kevin Breslin from Washington College and St. Maria Goretti will be a newcomer to watch this year for the Centennial.  He is a player that Washington could really start to build that Shoreman basketball program back to where they should be.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 05, 2008, 10:09:41 pm
I guess I'll get the ball bouncing.  No bias here. :)

November 21
Franklin & Marshall
Gettysburg
Haverford
Johns Hopkins
McDaniel
Muhlenberg
Swarthmore
Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 06, 2008, 05:26:37 pm
I love it when a guy goes conference... I'll do the same Picks for 11/21

F & M
Gettysburg
Haverford
Hopkins
McDaniel
Muhlenberg
Swathmore
Ursinus

There are games the very next day but I am going to skip that day because some are tourny games and we will not have enough time to work it. No real conference games to speak of that day.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D3Basketball on November 07, 2008, 08:55:19 am
Congrats to Capkin on his D3hoops honorable mention selection.  The east coast as a whole is not represented well at all here.  What's the deal?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pizzashop on November 07, 2008, 02:37:05 pm
Posted Today: http://godiplomats.com/sports/m-baskbl/2008-09/news/Season_Preview (http://godiplomats.com/sports/m-baskbl/2008-09/news/Season_Preview)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2008, 05:44:13 pm
Congrats to Capkin on his D3hoops honorable mention selection.  The east coast as a whole is not represented well at all here.  What's the deal?

Well at all on the message board or on the preseason All-American team?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 09, 2008, 01:06:34 pm
Congrats to Capkin on his D3hoops honorable mention selection.  The east coast as a whole is not represented well at all here.  What's the deal?

For those who did not know Dan Capkin is a senior gaurd at Gettysburg.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 12, 2008, 12:06:18 am
11/21 Picks

F & M
GBurg
Haverford
JHU
McDaniel
Muhlenberg
Vassar
Ursinus

CC will be brutally tough this year. Gettysburg is the clear & deserved favorite. Many teams back with lots of talent & returning, lots of big men. Could be rough on teams like SWAT & Sho'man who may have an uphill challenge. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 12, 2008, 08:38:43 pm
True, I think it could be the team that stays heathly and avoids major injuries could win this year
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BTEXPRESS on November 13, 2008, 05:13:53 pm
After looking at F & M's roster, boy are they young this season, 9 of the 16 are Freshman with only one Senior. Coach Rob's got some work to do.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 13, 2008, 09:57:27 pm
BTE,
 The F & M coach always pulls his team together. Last year some of the key players got hurt and the younger players came thru. Always a tough team
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 13, 2008, 10:31:33 pm
You made me go back and look at last years stats. Their are a lot of very good returning players. Here is a recap of those returning players stats.

SCORING
## Player-Team               Cl  G   FG  3FG   FT  Pts Avg/G
------------------------------------------------------------
  3.Dan Capkin-GC............ JR 29  195   75  104  569  19.6
 4.Tom Leszczynski-DC....... JR 26  160   17   92  429  16.5
 5.Corey Dorsey-GC.......... JR 29  155   62   94  466  16.1
 6.Tim Kohlrus-WC........... JR 25  128   16  123  395  15.8
 7.Chaz Thomas-HAV.......... JR 24  147   43   42  379  15.8
 8.Kizmahr Grell-DC......... JR 27  125   55  119  424  15.7


REBOUNDING
## Player-Team               Cl  G  OFF  DEF  TOT Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------------
 1.Tom Leszczynski-DC....... JR 26   71  206  277  10.7
   4.Andrew Powers-GC......... FR 29   49  181  230   7.9
 5.Joe Spierenburg-GC....... JR 29   51  165  216   7.4
 6.Chad Arrington-MCD....... JR 18   51   76  127   7.1
 7.James McNally-F&M........ FR 24   50  118  168   7.0

ASSISTS
## Player-Team               Cl  G Assists  Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------
 1.Remy Cousart-UC.......... SO 33     153   4.64
 2.Matt Kurman-SWAT......... SR 25      91   3.64
 3.Scott Hampton-WC......... SO 25      84   3.36
  5.Greg Rosnick-HAV......... JR 21      68   3.24
 6.Matt Allen-SWAT.......... SO 25      75   3.00

3-POINT FG PCT (Min. 1.0 made per game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G   3FG   FGA   Pct
----------------------------------------------------
 1.Matt Hilton-UC........... SO 33    67   143  .469
 2.Mitch Rhyner-F&M......... SO 21    40    86  .465
 3.John Noonan-UC........... JR 33    81   183  .443
 4.Matt Allen-SWAT.......... SO 25    44   100  .440

MINUTES PLAYED
## Player-Team               Cl  G Minutes  Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------
 1.Tim Kohlrus-WC........... JR 25     901  36.04
  3.Dan Capkin-GC............ JR 29    1005  34.66
 4.Kizmahr Grell-DC......... JR 27     935  34.63
  6.Chaz Thomas-HAV.......... JR 24     813  33.88
 7.Cory Kenny-DC............ JR 27     903  33.44

A lot of young players at the top

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 14, 2008, 07:53:57 pm
Nice article about Ursinus
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/sports/20081114_Ursinus_men_s_team_recalls_memorable_trip_to_Brazil.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/sports/20081114_Ursinus_men_s_team_recalls_memorable_trip_to_Brazil.html)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pizzashop on November 16, 2008, 10:14:01 am
Sunday News Hoops Preview (Men's and women's): http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/230208 (http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/230208)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 17, 2008, 07:22:26 pm
Reading an article about Dickinson and one thing that stuck out key players lost----None

here is the rest
Dickinson College Red Devils

Head coach: Dennis Csensits (seventh year, 48-103).

Assistant coaches: Paul Burke; Mark Linebaugh.

Conference: Centennial Conference.

Last year’s record: 14-13 overall; 9-9 Centennial.

Key players lost: None.

Key players returning: Tom Leszczynski, (Sr. C; 16.5 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 28 blocks); Kizmarh Grell (Sr., G; 15.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg); Mike Geosits (Sr., G; 9.7 rpg, 5.6 rpg, 32 steals); Cory Kenny (Jr., F.; 10.0 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 52 assists); Tim Crouch (Sr., F/C; 7.2 ppg, 6.1 rpg).

Season opener: Nov. 21, at Pizza Hut Tip Off Tournament, TBA.

Season Outlook: The Red Devils finished 14-13 overall and 9-9 in the Centennial Conference last year, making a dramatic improvement from the 2006-07 season, when they finished 7-17 (5-13 Centennial). Dickinson hasn’t lost any of its starters from a year ago, so look for the Red Devils to make a run at the top-tier teams. Dickinson will get its scoring from Leszczynski, Grell, Geosits and Kenny — all four players averaged double-digit scoring a year ago.

Roster

No. Name Pos. Year

0 Tim Crouch F/C Sr.

1 Trevor Kenny F So.

3 Chris Harrington G So.

4 Kizmahr Grell G Sr.

5 Michael Maxwell G Jr.

10 James Spicer G Sr.

11 Mike Grant G Jr.

12 Eric Rahauser G Sr.

15 Greg Smart F/C Jr.

21 Mike Geosits G Sr.

25 Matt Dolan G/F So.

32 Jamaal Benjamin F/C Sr.

35 Pat Kearns G So.

40 Cory Kenny F Jr.

41 John Dumas F So.

42 Tom Leszczynski C Sr.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on November 18, 2008, 02:55:04 pm
Gettysburg is the preseason favorite to win the Centennial Conference men's basketball title in 2009.  The Bullets were an unanimous choice among Conference coaches and Sports Information Directors, earning the top spot with 162 points and 18 first-place votes (voters not permitted to vote for their own team).  Defending champion Ursinus garnered the second spot on the poll with 137 points, while Dickinson followed closely behind with 126 points to take the third spot.   

1. Gettysburg (18), 162
2. Ursinus (2), 137
3. Dickinson, 126
4. Johns Hopkins, 107
5. Franklin & Marshall, 82
6. McDaniel, 79
7. Muhlenberg, 75
8. Haverford, 67
9. Washington, 34
10. Swarthmore, 29
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on November 18, 2008, 05:53:54 pm
I agree that Gettysburg should be ranked #1.  I don't understand why Dickinson doesn't get more love.  They have a potential powerhouse returning and, in my mind should be ranked #2.  Ursinus has a good nucleus returning, however, the void left by the graduation of Nick Shattuck and Michael Shema will be hard to fill and certainly not with freshmen.  Why is Ursinus ranked ahead of Dickinson?  Coaching?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 19, 2008, 11:18:25 am


Fellow Dip Fans -

Greetings once again. It is certainly great that the season is finally ready to begin. Here is a link to the article in tthis morning's Lancaster Intelligencer Journal. Enjoy.

http://http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/230361

Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on November 20, 2008, 10:27:58 am
i'm hoping haverford can have a good season this year after underachieving last year...lost about 5 or 6 games with less than 5 point margins (or overtime games). go fords!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: CCbball#1 on November 20, 2008, 11:42:58 am
To respond to the post by Gabriel Dickinson should definitely be a strong team this year in conference but they haven't done anything as a team yet. They were all there last year as juniors and could not make a deep run into the playoffs. I think having them ranked 3rd is appropriate for the beginning of the season. Also, you need to look at what Ursinus has done lately. People have been saying the last couple of years that this is the year Ursinus will not be as good because of who they lost the year before. However at the very least they find a way to reload and make it to the 2-3 game in the playoffs. Overall this should be a very exciting year in the conference with so much talent from top to bottom in the league. Watch out for Muhlenberg and Haverford because they certainly have the pieces to be able to compete on a nightly basis.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 20, 2008, 03:21:16 pm
Nice article about Gettysburg's Coach Petrie

http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_11021904 (http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_11021904)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 20, 2008, 03:23:10 pm
Also an article about Muhlenberg Basketball

[url][http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/all-s-bkm-moravian.6677800nov20,0,453108.story?track=rss/url]

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 20, 2008, 03:25:58 pm
Philadelphia Inquirer has an article about Ursinus Basketball, gee the football team gets skipped over by this paper--oh wait they did not play for a NCAA final lately :D

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20081119_Ursinus__leadership_torch_passed_to_Noonan.html (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20081119_Ursinus__leadership_torch_passed_to_Noonan.html)



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 20, 2008, 06:33:57 pm

MY 11/21 PICK-EM PICKS:

PSU-Harrisburg @ F&M           -   F&M
Etown @ G-burg                     -   Gburg
Oglethorpe @ Haverford         -   Oglethorpe
Moravian @ Johns Hopkins     -   Hopkins
PSU-York@McDaniel                -   McDaniel
Hunter @ Muhlenburg             -   Muhlenburg
Swarthmore @ Vassar            -   Vassar
Saint Lawrnece @ Ursinus      -   Ursinus

Mostly Centennial Conference picks. However, there will probably be a couple of surprises somewhere on the first night! I picked the Fords alot last year only to get a loss. So, they must show me something first.

Gee, its good to be back! Good luck to all!

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on November 20, 2008, 08:32:38 pm
My picks
F&M
Gburg
Oglethorpe
Hopkins
Muhlenberg
Vassar
Ursinus
 Should be an interesting season as there seems to be as many as 8 teams fighting for the playoffs.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on November 20, 2008, 08:55:00 pm
i pick all centennial except swarthmore
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: dipsetdynasty on November 21, 2008, 02:27:31 pm
My Picks:
Dickinson
F&M
Gettysburg
Haverford
Johns Hopkins
McDaniel
Hunter
Vassar
Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 21, 2008, 03:24:17 pm
11/21 picks:

Dickinson
F&M
Gettysburg
Oglethorpe
Johns Hopkins
McDaniel
Muhlenberg
Vassar
Ursinus

Old ends - glad to see you've signed a contract extension to run the picks again. This should be one of the strongest years the CC has ever had, especially in the middle of the pack.  No team can go into a game thinking "easy W" this year.  It's so good to see the conference where it is now compared to a few years ago.

Eric, I agree with you on the Fords...they burned me a few times last year, but they've got a good returning core.  And I'm looking forward to seeing how the Bullets hold up with the bull's-eye on their backs.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on November 21, 2008, 05:01:58 pm
Just in time for the opening tip, the 2008-09 Centennial Conference Men's Basketball Yearbook is available as a PDF.  The 78-page Yearbook has schedules, stats, rosters, records on all 10 Centennial Conference teams and much more. Haverford's Chaz Thomas is featured on the cover.  http://www.centennial.org/basketball/guide/men/
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 22, 2008, 06:45:50 am
here are the game scores
November 21
#11 Gettysburg 71, Elizabethtown 56
#12 Ursinus 82, St. Lawrence 76
Dickinson 69, Grove City 65
Franklin & Marshall 73, PSU Harrisburg 52
Oglethorpe 69, Haverford 67
Johns Hopkins 86, Moravian 61
McDaniel 100, PSU York 55
Muhlenberg 77, Hunter 59
Vassar 67, Swarthmore 57

Will post results next
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 22, 2008, 07:01:47 am
Well so far it look's like some people know their basketball.
I made a mistake an did not put the Dickinson game on the picks. For those who put it on you got a W.

Results
r.w. mcnickels      9  -  0
Diplomatic1          8  -  0
Brce4                   8  -  0
D.B.Cooper          7  -  1
neball                  7  -  1
Dipsetdynasty     7  -  2
Reserved Seat    6  -  2
Old ends              6  -  2

Not picks for tonight because it is to close. Will pick it monday so look back
any errors just let me know and I will correct.. After all it is for the grand prize of the winner sending everyone else 1/2 of 1% of a penny. :D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 22, 2008, 07:31:10 am
Some Saturday morning articles to read.

Swarthmore http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2008/11/21/sports/doc49263b39da789134199234.txt (http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2008/11/21/sports/doc49263b39da789134199234.txt)

Gettysburg http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_11031672 (http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_11031672)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 22, 2008, 07:52:50 am
The new basketball guide gave me the schedule for the year.
SO here are the picks for 11/25/08

Dickinson  @ Juniata
Catholic  @  Haverford
Hopkins  @  Frostburg State
McDaniel  @  St Mary's
Swarthmore  @  Arcadia
Drew   @   Ursinus
Muhlenberg  @  TCNJ
Stevenson  @  Washington
Lebanon Valley  @  F & M
York  @  Gettysburg

Have them in by Monday Night.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 22, 2008, 08:34:35 am
Based on our picks(Old Ends/Reserved Seat), shouldn't we get credit for the Dickinson game, since it's obvious we were picking Centennial across the board?
F&M looked ragged last night, but they should do better than last year.  Currently, they seem to only go 7 deep, but there seems to be some potential on the bench.  The new point guard appears to be the real thing.  He often found the open man for an easy play and appears to have a well-rounded game.  McNally started off were he ended last year, and Selig was all over the court.  Looks like there could be more joy in Mudville(Lancaster) this year.
F&M plays Mary Washington tonight.  Mary Washington had decent height, but seemed flustered by Arcadia's aggressive defense.  MW could never pull away.  Arcadia would get the score close but then MW would get a couple easy baskets.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 22, 2008, 06:37:17 pm
When they get down to playing conference games I will be more carefull.. This is just a warm up to get everyone on board. so therefore---naaa
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 22, 2008, 06:43:36 pm
Dickinson won their tourny
http://www.dickinson.edu/sports/statistics/mbk/mbkgames0809/ph008euc.htm#GAME.BOX (http://www.dickinson.edu/sports/statistics/mbk/mbkgames0809/ph008euc.htm#GAME.BOX)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 22, 2008, 11:40:16 pm
Another good night for the Conference

November 22
#11 Gettysburg 58, Geneseo 56
#12 Ursinus 85, Williams 82
Dickinson 83,     Eastern 54
F&M 79,            Mary Washington 55
Haverford 63,    Vassar 58
Whitworth 70,   Johns Hopkins 60
Muhlenberg 70, Marymount 49
Oglethorpe 93,  Swarthmore 70
Washington and Lee 76, Washington 74
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: dipsetdynasty on November 23, 2008, 12:12:22 am
My Picks...

Dickinson 
Catholic 
Hopkins 
St Mary's
Arcadia
Ursinus
Muhlenberg 
Stevenson
F & M
Gettysburg

Have them in by Monday Night.
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Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on November 23, 2008, 08:22:47 am
Tuesday's picks
Dickinson
Catholic
Hopkins
St. Mary's
Arcadia
Ursinus
Muhlenberg
Washington
F&M
Gettysburg
Good luck to all CC teams

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: pizzashop on November 23, 2008, 09:04:03 am
Some Sunday reading from Lancaster: http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/230588 (http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/230588)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 23, 2008, 10:48:25 am
Gettysburg wins tourny article below

http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_11052608 (http://www.eveningsun.com/ci_11052608)

Ursinus wins
http://www.ursinus.edu/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=1139 (http://www.ursinus.edu/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=1139)


Muhlenberg also wins
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/fall08/1122page2.html (http://www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/fall08/1122page2.html)


enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 23, 2008, 11:04:00 am
Picks for 11/25/08

Dickinson
Haverford
Hopkins
McDaniel
Swarthmore
Ursinus
TCNJ
Washington
F & M
Gettysburg

good luck to all
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 23, 2008, 04:48:13 pm
11/25 picks

Dickinson
CUA
JHU
St. Mary's
Arcadia
Ursinus
TCNJ
WC
F&M
G-burg

I saw the Dips beat one of the pre-season CAC favorites (MWU) yesterday. F&M has what would normally be a promising young squad, but will be lucky to play to their pre-season poll spot of 5th. They play a frenetic style & turn it over way too much. Milligan looks like a great rookie. The conference is just way too experienced & strong. The best that can be hoped for is 14 total wins & .500 in the CC itself. I'll have to see them win road games against good teams to believe it (UC, GC, DC, JHU, McD, MC & HC should all hold serve at home vs the young Dips). Now next year if they progress they could challenge the top tier of teams again.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on November 24, 2008, 12:00:09 am
my picks

dickinson
haverford
hopkins
st mary's
arcadia
tcnj
washington
f&m
gettysburg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 24, 2008, 02:33:41 pm
Guesses for 11/25/08

Dickinson
Catholic
Hopkins
St Mary's
Arcadia
Ursinus
TCNJ
Washington
F & M
Gettysburg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 24, 2008, 03:10:23 pm
My picks for 11/25:

Dickinson
Catholic
Johns Hopkins
St. Mary's
Arcadia
Ursinus
TCNJ
Stevenson
Franklin And Marshall
Gettysburg

Also (to ne-ball), you didn't make a pick in the Drew-Ursinus game!

Good luck to a CC teams. Happy Thanksgiving to all! Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on November 24, 2008, 05:47:12 pm
need to add ursinus to my picks that i already sent
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 24, 2008, 06:19:48 pm
Ne-ball...

Got the change and corrected it.

Thanks Diplomaniac1  for picking that off..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on November 24, 2008, 10:20:05 pm
yea, thanks diplomaniac. i appreciate it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on November 24, 2008, 11:36:38 pm
My picks for 11/25

Dickinson
Catholic 
Frostburg State
McDaniel
Arcadia
Ursinus
TCNJ
Stevenson 
F & M
Gettysburg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 25, 2008, 12:05:26 am
11/25 picks:

Gettysburg
Ursinus
Dickinson
Catholic
Johns Hopkins
St. Mary's
Arcadia
Muhlenberg
Washington
F&M

Does anyone know why Corey Dorsey wasn't in the starting lineup for Gettysburg the other night?

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 25, 2008, 08:24:06 pm
Ursinus at the half 33--30 against York
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 25, 2008, 08:37:37 pm
Washington is up at the start of the 2nd half 40-33 over Stevenson

F & M is up 42 - 37 over Lebanon Valley

Gettysburg finally pulled ahead with under a min to go 28-27 over York College


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 25, 2008, 08:49:59 pm
Ursinus wins 77 - 65 over drew

Matt Hilton 28 pts  Noonan 23 pts
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 26, 2008, 05:45:39 pm


Folks -

It looks to me that the results and standings including last night's games should be as follows:

Poster                               11/25                    Overall                     Percentage

neball                                9-1                         16-2                       .889
r. w. mcnickels                   7-3                         16-3                       .842
old ends                            9-1                         15-3                       .833
D. B. Cooper                      8-2                         15-3                       .833
Brce4                                 7-3                         15-3                       .833
diplomaniac1                     7-3                         15-3                       .833
Reserved Seat                   8-2                        14-4                       .778
Dipsetdynasty                   6-4                         13-6                       .684
UniqueNewYork                 5-5                          5-5                        .500

I have added the winning percentage for each participant to the standings to account for the differences in the number of games each poster picked and to permit for a better comparison as new posters join the Pick-Em Contest. Overall, the standings are close from top to bottom. Looks like it will be an interesting season.

All-in-all, most posters had a pretty good night as did most of the Centennial Conference teams as well. As a whole, the Centennial Conference was 8-2 in wins and losses.

Let me know if my numbers above are incorrect and I will post corrected results and standings. Regards to all. Happy Thanksgiving - travel safely!

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 26, 2008, 05:48:07 pm


old ends -

Sorry, I didn't mean to "jump the gun" on you. However, I just had some extra time on my hands before the holiday and thought I would take a crack at calculating and listing the standings. I won't be able to do it all of the time! So, you have the ball now...........

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on November 26, 2008, 05:49:57 pm


UniqueNew York -

Welcome to the board and the contest. It is always nice to have new posters in here to broaden our discussion and outlook! What team do you support?

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 26, 2008, 05:55:37 pm
You can jump anytime you want...Thanks for doing it for me Eric..

Pickems for 11/29/08

John Hopkins    vs    Salisbury
Washington      vs    St Mary's
McDaniel            @    Stevenson
F & M                  @   Juniata

11/30/08
Ursinus              @   Lebanon Valley



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 26, 2008, 05:59:43 pm
Article about last night game fir Gettysburg.
http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/articles/2008/11/26/sports/gettysburg_college/doc492d48de7ccc1107895639.txt (http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/articles/2008/11/26/sports/gettysburg_college/doc492d48de7ccc1107895639.txt)


Last Night Results
November 25
#11 Gettysburg 60,     York 51
#12 Ursinus 77,           Drew 65
Dickinson 71,               Juniata 66
Haverford 70,              Catholic 57
Johns Hopkins 69,       Frostburg 66
St. Mary's 84,              McDaniel 77
Swarthmore 65,          Arcadia 63
TCNJ 71,                     Muhlenberg 63
Washington 89,         Stevenson 76
F&M 72,                      Lebanon Valley 68

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 26, 2008, 06:07:38 pm
Week one release is in. Player of the week and stats
http://www.centennial.org/basketball/MBK_1124.pdf (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/MBK_1124.pdf)

and stats thru 11/26
http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm)



enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 26, 2008, 06:12:30 pm
To all Happy Thankgiving!!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: dipsetdynasty on November 26, 2008, 09:28:18 pm
My Picks...

John Hopkins   
St Mary's
Stevenson
F & M

Ursinus 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on November 26, 2008, 11:37:52 pm
My picks
Hopkins
St. Mary's
McDaniel
Juniata
Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 27, 2008, 12:06:44 am
11-29/30 picks

Salisbury
St. Mary's
McDaniel
Juniata
Ursinus

Tough set of games, this is where road woes likely start for Dips.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on November 27, 2008, 12:44:11 am
11/29 picks:

Johns Hopkins
St. Mary's
McDaniel
Juniata

11/30 pick:

Ursinus


I'm with you on the Dips, D.B.  They need make a statement away from Mayser before I pick them on the road.  McNally and Baker have looked good, but you never know what a freshman point guard will give you, especially on the road...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on November 27, 2008, 01:16:31 pm
Pickems for 11/29/08

John Hopkins   
St Mary's
McDaniel
F & M                 

11/30/08
Ursinus           
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on November 27, 2008, 01:55:06 pm
i'll go with:

hopkins
st mary's
mcdaniel
juniata

ursinus

happy turkey day everyone
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 27, 2008, 05:57:51 pm
Picks for 11/29/08

John Hopkins
St Mary's
McDaniel
F & M

11/30/08
Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 28, 2008, 06:43:48 pm
Picks for 11/29 & 11/30

Salisbury
St Mary's
McDaniel
F & M
Ursinus

the regular season games start next week for just Weds and Sat, then it does not get going until Jan 7th. So put your thinking caps on.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 29, 2008, 10:38:08 pm
Dips score a 42 point road victory against Juniata per the F&M website. They can prove me wrong & sabotage my pick-em score anytime, but I'll be back in line taking JHU over Dips in Baltimore next round. Maybe this team is better than last year, but once again this is a brutal conference. I just don't see how they can keep up near the top 3 or 4 teams in the standings. Keep proving me wrong Dips.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on November 29, 2008, 10:45:05 pm
97-55 not bad for a road victory
I'll have to see the stats, but F&M may surprise some teams this year.
They currently go 7 deep, so they'll have to develop some depth to ward off any possible injuries.
It's a given I'll be picking F&M over Hopkins.  I hope to be there Tuesday, if I can get out of Reading in time to drive to Baltimore.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 30, 2008, 06:23:39 pm
Results for 11/29

Reserved Seat          4  -  1
UniqueNewYork         4  -  1
ne-ball                    3  -  2
Dipsetdynasty           3  -  2
Brce4                      3  -  2
r.w.mcnickels            3  -  2
Old ends                  3  -  2
D.B.Cooper               2  -  3

Overall

Diplomatic1             15  -  3 ( .833)
ne-ball                    19  -  4 ( .826)
r.w.mcnickels           19  - 5 ( .792)
Reserved Seat         18  -  5 ( .783)
Old ends                 18  -  5 ( .783)
Brce4                     18  -  5 ( .783)
D.B.Cooper              17  -  6 ( .739)
Dipset Dynasty        16  -  8 ( .667)
UniqueNewYork          9  -  6 ( .600)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 30, 2008, 06:34:07 pm
Here is the pick-ems for 12/03/08( Conference games)

F & M             @  John Hopkins
Haverford      @  Muhlenberg
McDaniel        @  Swarthmore
Washington   @  Ursinus
Dickinson       @  Gettysburg


Since we have conference sandwiched in between non-conference games. I am going to keep separate tallies for the two. There is Conference games on 12/6 then only 1 more game till the end of the year. This how I tend to have a first half and second half..

1st half all non-conference games
2nd half conference games.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on November 30, 2008, 06:38:26 pm
12/3 picks

JHU (We will get a better read on the youthful Dips here)
Mules
McDaniel
Ursinus by 48
Gettysburg (expect tough game)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on November 30, 2008, 06:52:42 pm
Picks for 12/3

F & M
Muhlenberg
McDaniel
Ursinus
Gettysburg

Conference time
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on November 30, 2008, 08:43:24 pm
picks...

F&M
Haverford
McDaniel
Ursinus
Gettysburg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on November 30, 2008, 09:12:09 pm
Already some tough games to pick. In the tough ones it's hard to pick against the home team so here goes
Hopkins
Mules
McDaniel
Ursinus
Gettysburg
Early, it looks like there will be many tough picks this season.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on November 30, 2008, 09:30:56 pm
agreed about tough picks...lots of teams can beat each other. should be interesting. seems like alot of teams are buched up this year.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on December 01, 2008, 12:07:48 am
My picks for 12/3

F & M           
Muhlenberg
McDaniel       
Ursinus
Dickinson     
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: dipsetdynasty on December 01, 2008, 12:23:57 am

F&M by 42          
Muhlenberg
McDaniel 
Ursinus
Dickinson by 1 in OT
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 01, 2008, 11:49:58 am

old ends -

I am not sure that you have my win-loss percentage correct. You may want to check and recalculate if necessary. Thanks.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 01, 2008, 11:56:43 am

Folks -

Sorry, I missed getting my picks for 12/29 and 11/30 in. I left town early for the long Thanksgiving holiday weekend before I thought about it.

Here are my picks for the 12/3 Pick-Ems:

F&M  (I saw the Juniata game - Dips were impressive. I will pick this game with my heart over my brain!)
Muhlenberg (I don't have a read on these two teams yet)
McDaniel
Ursinus
Gettysburg (Home court advantage. Otherwise, a very close game)

Good luck to all. Hope everyone had an enjoyable holiday. Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 01, 2008, 03:15:50 pm
12/3 picks:

Gettysburg
Johns Hopkins
Muhlenberg
McDaniel
Ursinus

Dickinson and Haverford should give their respective hosts a scare.  Hopkins will defend the home court against F&M after nearly knocking off St. Mary's over the weekend.  I'm not sure what to make of the Dips, who have looked very good so far.  Just too hesitant to pick them until we see how they play against a good conference team on the road, which will happen Wednesday.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 01, 2008, 05:39:25 pm
Pick-ems for 12/03/08

F & M(need to start conference play with a win)
Muhlenberg
McDaniel
Ursinus(shouldn't lose two in a row)
Gettysburg(should be a great game)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 01, 2008, 06:18:49 pm
Diplomaniac1:

Got to watch us old timers.... Thanks for catching it and it has been corrected...
You can check with the others I have miscalculated a few in the past.. But always corrected

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 01, 2008, 06:31:50 pm
I think with Gettysburg & Ursinus being top teams to beat this year it may cause us to overlook some of the other teams.

Dickinson has their big man back,Leszcynski, who already is leading in rebounds and teammate Dolan in 7th spot. F & M is getting a team attack going with 7 members in double figures against Lebanon Valley. They have McNally 5th in points and 4th in rebound in the conference and Milligan the assist leader so far. The above are on per game ave.  Also remember F & M beat Lebanon Valley who Beat Ursinus.

Hilton( Ursinus) Capkin( Gettysburg) and Noonan( Ursinus) lead in scoring and 3 pt's made.

Going to be a good one this year...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 01, 2008, 06:32:34 pm
Diplomaniac1:

Got to watch us old timers.... Thanks for catching it and it has been corrected...
You can check with the others I have miscalculated a few in the past.. But always corrected


Old Ends
Thanks for your efforts in maintaining the pick-ems.  You do a great timely job.  All miscalculations are corrected as soon as you are informed of the discrepancy.
I'll be in Baltimore for the Hopkins' game on Wednesday.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 01, 2008, 06:35:10 pm
Speaking of Matt Hilton, Ursinus. Congrats for being the Conference pllayer of the week.

The rest of the stats and stuff can be viewed here:
http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_1201.pdf (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_1201.pdf)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 01, 2008, 09:21:17 pm
Eric, I think you asked what happened to Chris Sullivan a while ago.  By now you may already know, but I found out that he transferred to Wittenberg to play closer to home.  Here is Witt's roster (http://www5.wittenberg.edu/news/athletics/mbasketball/roster08-09.html).  It looks like Sullivan has started all three games for the Tigers so far.

I thought he was a great shooter but not the best at running the point, where he was playing at F&M.  Of course, he was thrown into a starting role as a freshman, no easy thing.  Best of luck to him.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 03, 2008, 04:08:00 pm
article from the conference on tonights matchups.
http://centennialconference.blogspot.com/2008/12/opening-night.html (http://centennialconference.blogspot.com/2008/12/opening-night.html)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 03, 2008, 07:38:36 pm
At the half in Baltimore:

F&M 37, Hopkins 32

McNally with 15 points for the Dips.  Hopkins shooting 60% from the field, but 12 turnovers.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on December 03, 2008, 08:36:13 pm
Never am I so glad as to lose a pick-em game

F&M 79 - JHU 66 (in Baltimore)

Are the youthful Dips for real or is JHU a second division team in the savage Cenntennial Conference? I eagerly await the result of the other exciting tilts.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 03, 2008, 08:45:21 pm
Muhlenberg is laying it on Haverford 55-26 midway through the second half. 

Gettysburg leads Dickinson at the half, 38-26.

An impressive win for F&M on the road.   They host the Mules on Saturday in what should be a good one.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 03, 2008, 10:30:02 pm
F&M looked ragged, but they moved the ball well.  McNally continued his strong play under the basket.  Milligan and Brooks can both penetrate with the ball.  F&M's rotation of 7 players is working well.  Despite some foul trouble, the offense showed no let up with Tolliver and Selig playing.  Tolliver and Selig will be the strength for F&M when it comes to bench play.  They both can sub for several players without affecting the flow of the game.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 04, 2008, 11:26:34 am
Gettysburg cracked the top 10 this week:

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/

According to the Gettysburg website, this is the highest the Bullets have ever climbed in the D3hoops.com poll.  I think this makes the Bullets the third Centennial program to earn a top 10 ranking in the poll's history, along with F&M and Ursinus.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on December 04, 2008, 12:52:55 pm
Any thoughts on who the top freshman in the CC are? With all the upperclassmen experience most teams have their aren't that many impact openings. Last year McNally (FM) had a great rookie year but was overshadowed by Powers (GB) who was explosive & dominant on a team that made a sweet-16 run.

This year I am favorably impressed with Milligan (FM) he looks like the best Dip point guard since Duran Searles, but is a different type of player. Early on his scoring, defense, rebounding & assist to turnover ratio are impressive. Plus he's led his squad to an unbeaten start that few if any would have predicted. The only apparent weakness shown so far is he does not seem to be comfortable shooting 3-pointers, if he ever develops this aspect he could be a 1st team CC player.
The only other frosh making a splash that I found is Liddic (Muhl), but most of his damage was against the shell-shocked Fords in the cavernous Muledome. I know the Sho'man play some rookies but can not imagine they are of the quality of the others I mentioned.

What does everyone think?  Did I miss some frosh high-riser that's the next Andrew Powers?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 04, 2008, 01:36:43 pm
D.B. -

I am also impressed with Milligan.  He might be the guard F&M has lacked.  However, this is from someone who thought Logan Outerbridge and Bryan Teschke would develop into All-CC players, so my opinion might not be worth anything!

Kevin Breslin of WC might be a player to watch - I just noticed his name on the stats and found out he's the brother of All-CCer Joey Breslin.

Cavernous is a great word for the Muledome.  Another one I've heard: "dungeon."  It's a tough place to play.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: d3hoopsfan on December 04, 2008, 02:18:12 pm
I would agree with Milligan-it seems like he is stepping up for the Dips'

I would also through McDaniel out there, it seems like they have a promising freshman in Sarris-Grau.  Stats look good so far-led the team in 2 games(18pts, 8 boards and 16 pts, 6 blocks in another)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 04, 2008, 04:28:03 pm
Interesting to look at the stats from the December 3 games:

                    FGA     FG%     T/O
F&M               54     53.7      13
JHU                61     47.5      18
Gettysburg    45     57.8      11
Dickinson       60     35.0       9
McDaniel        53     52.8      17
Swarthmore   64    31.3       15
Ursinus          52    51.9        23
Washington   69    33.3        13
Muhlenberg    52    53.8        18
Haverford       56    26.8        17

Average         56.6  44.4        15.4

What do these stats tell you?  Which teams shoot the best?  Which teams defend the best?  Which teams take care of the ball the best?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 04, 2008, 05:35:51 pm
Results for 12/3/ pickems  ( remember conference play is not going to count on the overall but a second half)
                                          ( there are still some non-conference games left before full time conference)

2nd half

Diplomaniac1         5  -  0
Reserved Seat       5  -  0
Old ends               5  -  0
D.B..Cooper           4  -  1
ne-ball                 4  -  1
Dipsetdynasty      4  -  1
Brce4                   4  -  1
Unique New York    4  -  1
r.w.mcnickels         4  -  1

That is also the overall .

December 3
#9 Gettysburg 67,    Dickinson 50
#21 Ursinus 81,       Washington 61
F&M 79,                  Johns Hopkins 66
Muhlenberg 73,        Haverford 41
McDaniel 72,            Swarthmore 55

enjoy


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 04, 2008, 05:38:24 pm
Gabriel,, Thanks and Nice stats and I know you are rooting for.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 04, 2008, 05:40:35 pm
Pick-ems for 12/6


#9 Gettysburg   at    #21 Ursinus  ( gee do you think this might be a good game ???)
Muhlenberg       at       Franklin & Marshall
Washington      at       Dickinson
McDaniel           at       Haverford
Johns Hopkins   at      Swarthmore

Get them in by Sat. noon

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 04, 2008, 05:46:46 pm
Home town papers tend to be homer's.. Article about Gettysburg's victory

http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/articles/2008/12/04/sports/gettysburg_college/doc4937c54bd42c6408029221.txt (http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/articles/2008/12/04/sports/gettysburg_college/doc4937c54bd42c6408029221.txt)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 04, 2008, 06:57:27 pm


old ends -

Looks to me that you left one of our pick-em contestants who is new this year off of the Second Half standings list. If my notes are right, it should also include:

Dipsetdynasty        4 - 1

All of our pickers had a pretty good night! Fellow Diplomat fans, I hope to get to the Muhlenberg game this weekend. I will have to say hello if any of you plan to attend. Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 04, 2008, 07:09:03 pm
Pick-ems for 12/6

Gettysburg(good test for lofty ranking)
Franklin & Marshall(who else)
Dickinson
McDaniel(Haverford could win at home)
Johns Hopkins
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: dipsetdynasty on December 04, 2008, 07:10:43 pm
yeah thanks for not forgetting about me!  I was predicting a big upset by Dickinson, but Gettysburg played really well and Dickinson appears to be even worse off than they were last year even though they didn't lose anybody.  Should be interesting to see if Gettysburg can keep their top 25 ranking till the end of the season.  
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: dipsetdynasty on December 04, 2008, 07:12:25 pm
Ursinus
Franklin & Marshall
Dickinson
Haverford
Johns Hopkins
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 04, 2008, 08:08:01 pm
Never am I so glad as to lose a pick-em game

F&M 79 - JHU 66 (in Baltimore)

Are the youthful Dips for real or is JHU a second division team in the savage Cenntennial Conference? I eagerly await the result of the other exciting tilts.
Couple of things:
On the lighter side, considering Coach Robinson was not seen at the Provident Pride Tournament (though, I was rather busy, so I could be very wrong), I am impressed with this victory. I only allude to his presence at the tournament since he spent much of last year at both days of the weekend part of the tournament.

I wouldn't say JHU is in the second division (lower half) of the Centennial. I saw them play plenty of basketball and they are a pretty good team. They certainly have their flaws which St. Mary's took advantage of - the Blue Jays are not a quick team - but I would not say they are in the bottom half. Now, does that mean F&M is much better than thought or just playing above themselves, we shall see. A road win against Hopkins is a pretty good step for a program I was so used to seeing at the top.

Completely random and not based on any fact... is Gettysburg really only the third team from the Centennial to make the Top 10? Hopkins has never done it? Interesting.

Gettysburg/Ursinus is the game I will certainly be watching. I saw a few of these battles last year, including a very good game in the Sweet 16. Ursinus dominated many facets of that game, but I saw where the Bullets would dominate in the future. I am taking Gettysburg in this game - but I think it will be closer than the experts think, since Ursinus will be gunning to prove they are better than that Leb. Valley lost showed.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on December 04, 2008, 08:53:14 pm
Gettysburg
Muhlenberg (Mules fan can't pick against them yet)
Dickinson
McDaniel ( Haverford did not look very good against Muhlenberg on Wed. but will no doubt play better at
               home but it's hard to pick them against McDaniel)
Hopkins
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 04, 2008, 09:16:31 pm
My picks for 12/6:

Ursinus
F&M
Dickinson
McDaniel
Hopkins




Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 04, 2008, 09:20:10 pm
Gabriel,, Thanks and Nice stats and I know you are rooting for.

Old Ends,

I doubt it.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 04, 2008, 10:23:54 pm
Completely random and not based on any fact... is Gettysburg really only the third team from the Centennial to make the Top 10? Hopkins has never done it? Interesting.

The highest ranking I could find for JHU was No. 12 early in the '99-00 season (the first poll year listed on this site).  It's possible I missed a higher ranking somewhere.  They made the "teens" in a few different seasons, but I couldn't find a Top 10. 

But what's a couple of spots?  We could just say the Centennial has four programs to have reached the "Top 12" this decade.  Not bad!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on December 05, 2008, 11:09:22 am
Pick-ems for 12/6


Gettysburg   
Franklin & Marshall
Dickinson
McDaniel         
Johns Hopkins   

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on December 05, 2008, 01:36:31 pm
12/6 picks

Ursinus (G-burg is better but have to get gorilla off their back 1st)
F&M (still don't trust this team but Mules are 20 points worse on the road)
Dickinson (sure win for Devils, Sho'man not to be mistaken for G-burg)
McDaniel (could be a closer game than most think)
JHU (SWAT is toothless this year)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 05, 2008, 05:39:07 pm


Folks -

Here are my picks for 12/6:

Ursinus
F&M
Dickinson
McDaniel
Hopkins

Enjoy the games. Good luck to all! Regards,


Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 05, 2008, 08:41:44 pm
gettysburg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 05, 2008, 08:43:20 pm
gettysburg
f&m
dickinson
haverford
hopkins

sorry...pushed the button too quick before
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 05, 2008, 08:44:16 pm
12/6 picks:

Gettysburg
F&M
Dickinson
McDaniel
Johns Hopkins

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 06, 2008, 10:34:17 am
Today';s picks

Ursinus  home court adv today
F & M
Dickinson
McDaniel 
John Hopkins

Fixed standings  misssed Dipsetdynasty who went 4 - 1 as eric pointed out
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 06, 2008, 10:43:36 am
Congrats to Matt Hilton, Ursinus player of the week

Week 2 release

http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_1201.pdf (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_1201.pdf)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 06, 2008, 11:54:03 am
Wiping off my 'reserved seat', and waiting for basketball to start.  The gym's a little empty right now.
Girls at 2:00; boys at 4:00.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 06, 2008, 05:13:01 pm
D.B.

We were right.  Gettysburg still can't get the gorilla of its back.  82-53 Ursinus.  Who would have guessed the margin would be so big.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 06, 2008, 05:52:43 pm
Ursinus got a wake up call last year against Immaculata and again this year against Lebanon Valley.  After both these losses, they realized that team play, tough defense and ball movement  are the best ways to get it done.  Ursinus plays Leb Valley again next game in the Randolph Macon tourney on December 29.  I will bet on Ursinus this time.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 06, 2008, 10:47:31 pm
Ursinus' overwhelming victory unexpected.  I thought the game might be close.  Home court shouldn't be that much of a help. 
Washington's stunning win caught us all by surprise.
F&M's score not as close as the final score.  F&M's failure to convert foul shots at the end and some timely threes by the Mules closed the gap.  F&M's big men were in foul trouble the entire game.  F&M appears to be much more athletic than the last few years.
With Washington beating Dickinson, the Centennial appears to be a wide open race for numerous teams to win.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: dipsetdynasty on December 06, 2008, 10:50:55 pm
I agree.  Ursinus always knows how to come off a tough loss.  Coach Smalls is one of the best in-game coaches I've seen, he can make great adjustments at TOs and Halftime. 

Gettysburg, on the other hand, is not a contender period.  They have some solid players: I think Powers has potential to become an all-american, and I think Capkin plays his heart out.  BUT they also have some weaknesses: Spierenburg does a lot of great stuff like getting blocks, making great cuts, but he can easily be defended by a bigger guy because he's not very quick and he's easy to push around.  Also, Dorsey is a JOKE.  I've never seen a D3 player with a worse off-hand dribble.  He plays like a chump and think's he's the best player on that team and probably in the league.  If you put a guard defender right on him tight and tell him to go for the steal everytime Dorsey dribbles then he won't score all game.  Until Gettysburg learns to work around Powers as their focal point and get an inside out game to Capkin/Spierenberg, those guys will not be legitimate contenders. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 07, 2008, 08:00:24 am
haverford beats mcdaniel with good "D" and team play. low scoring game and the fords came through down the stretch in a game that was neck and neck most of the way.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 07, 2008, 11:37:42 am
haverford beats mcdaniel with good "D" and team play. low scoring game and the fords came through down the stretch in a game that was neck and neck most of the way.

ne-ball, it also looks like the Fords did it without Chaz Thomas in the lineup.  Do you know if he's injured?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 07, 2008, 12:05:04 pm
I agree.  Ursinus always knows how to come off a tough loss.  Coach Smalls is one of the best in-game coaches I've seen, he can make great adjustments at TOs and Halftime. 

Gettysburg, on the other hand, is not a contender period.  They have some solid players: I think Powers has potential to become an all-american, and I think Capkin plays his heart out.  BUT they also have some weaknesses: Spierenburg does a lot of great stuff like getting blocks, making great cuts, but he can easily be defended by a bigger guy because he's not very quick and he's easy to push around.  Also, Dorsey is a JOKE.  I've never seen a D3 player with a worse off-hand dribble.  He plays like a chump and think's he's the best player on that team and probably in the league.  If you put a guard defender right on him tight and tell him to go for the steal everytime Dorsey dribbles then he won't score all game.  Until Gettysburg learns to work around Powers as their focal point and get an inside out game to Capkin/Spierenberg, those guys will not be legitimate contenders. 

Kevin Small does not get enough credit for what he has done at Ursinus.  He was not even a full time employee until about two to three years ago. He was working three jobs until he was hired full time.  He has not had a full time paid assistant for the past three years, since Joe Rulewich left although Mike McGarvey is probably going to fill that role.  He took a program that was morbid at best and molded a first class program.  He does it through hard work, relentless recruiting, smart coaching and keeping in close touch with his players.  The success at Ursinus is no accident and it will continue.  They may not win the conference every year but they will be in the hunt every year.

As opposed to Gettysburg, Coach Small stays positive during every game and sticks with his rotation even if the kids make mistakes.  The players are confident because they know the coach has confidence in them.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 07, 2008, 12:25:48 pm
no question that ursinus is a "family" and that has huge dividends. i had the pleasure of meeting a couple of their former players (mcgarvey, stanton) when they worked with some young athletes and they are special people. fine young men, devoted athletes and great attitudes that make them models for the younger kids. no surprise that it comes from the top down and creates a program with alot of heart and comradery.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 07, 2008, 12:44:00 pm
Results for 12/6

Second Half

Dipsetdynasty          4  -  1
Gabriel                    3  -  2
D.B.Cooper              3  -  2
Diplomanic1             3  -  2
ne-ball                   3  -  2
old ends                  3  -  2
r.w.mcnickels           2  -  3
Reserved Seat         2  -  3
UniqueNewYork       2  -  3
Brce4                    1  -  4

Overall

Dipsetdynasty         8  -  2
Diplomanic1             8  -  2
old ends                 8  -  2
Reserved Seat         7  -  3
 ne-ball                  7  -  3
D.B.Cooper             7  -  3
UniqueNewYork        6  -  4
r.w.mcnickels          6  -  4
Gabriel                    3  -  2
Brce4                     5  -  5

As you have stated this could be a good tight race this year. Some of the teams we all tought would win.. well it just did not happen.

I agree with Reserved that the home court advantage should not have been that big a difference. Must look at the stats and see what happened.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 07, 2008, 12:47:01 pm
Picks-ems for 12/9 and 12/10.

12/9
Moravian at Swarthmore

12/10
Hunter at F & M

These games are part of the first half standings. There will not be any conference games until 1/7/09. So from now until then all first half.

recap of 1st half so far
Overall

Diplomatic1             15  -  3 ( .833)
ne-ball                    19  -  4 ( .826)
r.w.mcnickels           19  - 5 ( .792)
Reserved Seat         18  -  5 ( .783)
Old ends                 18  -  5 ( .783)
Brce4                     18  -  5 ( .783)
D.B.Cooper              17  -  6 ( .739)
Dipset Dynasty        16  -  8 ( .667)
UniqueNewYork          9  -  6 ( .600)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 07, 2008, 01:05:30 pm
In reviewing the stats for the Ursinus -- Gettysburg game, two things jump out

1. Gettysburg shot 38.5% from the floor
     15.8 % 3-pts shots
      52.6% from the foul line.

     Ursinus   49.2% from the floor
      39.3% 3 pt shots
      81.3% on the foul line

2.  Gettysburg 21 turnovers
      Ursinus 16 turnovers, 3 blocks, and 13 steals.

Points in the paint-GC 28,UC 26. Points off turnovers-GC 17,UC 24.
2nd chance points-GC 13,UC 7. Fast break points-GC 0,UC 4.
Bench points-GC 17,UC 25.

Gettysburg just does not look like they were there.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on December 07, 2008, 01:13:41 pm
Picks-ems for 12/9 and 12/10.

12/9
Swarthmore

12/10
F & M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 07, 2008, 04:24:36 pm
Picks-ems for 12/9 and 12/10.

12/9
Moravian(have some good wins and some bad losses)

12/10
F & M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 07, 2008, 06:45:54 pm
rw...not sure about chaz's status, but he did not play, you are right. no news on that.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on December 07, 2008, 07:44:30 pm
After my awful picks on Saturday, I'll go with Moravian and F&M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on December 07, 2008, 08:05:55 pm
next picks

Moravian
F&M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: dipsetdynasty on December 07, 2008, 09:17:33 pm
Moravian and F&M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 08, 2008, 08:24:59 am
My picks are Moravian and F&M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 08, 2008, 10:47:09 am


Folks -

Mr picks for 12/9 and 12/10 are:

Moravian
F&M

I was at the F&M game on Saturday. The observation that I will make is that the Dips would have lost this type of game last year when the Mules started their run of threes. The Dips let a lot of leads perish in similar types of situations in the second half of many games last year. While one game does not a season make, this is a very hopeful sign for the Dips and their fans!

I agree that the Dips appear to be quicker and more atheletc this year. Also, this team appears to be tougher mentally and more "coachable". I thought that Balderston (No. 34) gave some strong minutes defensively off of the bench in the first half - a pleasant surprise. Finally, having a point guard with a two-dimensional game (both scoring and running the offense) is a big plus.

Good luck to all! Hopefully, the off-weeks in December will go by fast and the second half will be here soon! Regards.

Eric


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 08, 2008, 03:18:05 pm
Picks for 12/9 and 12/10

Swarthmore  12/9
F & M    12/10

Very good information from all. +k's to ya
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 08, 2008, 03:46:36 pm
Stats thru 12/8 are in,

SCORING OFFENSE
## Team                  G   W-L   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall.  6   6-0   484  80.7
 2.Ursinus.............        6   5-1   479  79.8


SCORING DEFENSE
## Team                  G   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.McDaniel............    6   347  57.8
 2.Gettysburg..........  5   295  59.0

FREE THROW PERCENTAGES
## Team                  G    FTM   FTA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Ursinus.............       6     85   110  .773
 2.Johns Hopkins.......  7    114   153  .745

FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGES
## Team                     G     FG   FGA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Ursinus.............       6    173   335  .516
 2.Franklin & Marshall.  6    182   366  .497


3-POINT FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGES
## Team                      G     FG   FGA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall.  6     18    35  .514
 2.Ursinus.............        6     48   125  .384

REBOUNDING MARGIN
## Team                  G  TEAM   Avg  OPP   Avg Margin
--------------------------------------------------------
 1.Muhlenberg..........  5   217  43.4  164  32.8  +10.6
 2.Franklin & Marshall.  6   239  39.8  187  31.2   +8.7


See it all:http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm)

enjoy






Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 08, 2008, 03:49:08 pm
Weekly release is in Congrats to Georgio Milligan, F & M, Conference player of the week.

view the rest here:http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_1208.pdf (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_1208.pdf)
enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: d3hoopsfan on December 08, 2008, 05:54:32 pm
Good for him-It's good to see a mix of upperclassmen and underclassmen on the honor roll.  It looks like there are some quality freshman in Milligan(FM), Liddic (Mules), and Sarris-Grau(McD)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 08, 2008, 08:39:42 pm
d3hoops...there are other good freshman who will surface that are not getting deserved  minutesyet. stay tuned.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 08, 2008, 08:51:22 pm
12/9 pick:
Moravian in a close one

12/10 pick:
F&M

Still kicking myself for picking Gettysburg over Ursinus.  Kevin Small has shown time and again that he knows how to beat the Princeton offense - the games haven't been close.

The Sho'men and Fords also came up big this weekend, along with the surprising Dips.  Looking forward to the nightly wars in conference play come January.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 08, 2008, 09:08:11 pm
my picks are:

Moravian
F&M
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 09, 2008, 02:56:40 pm
Ursinus jumps up to No. 12 in this week's Top 25, while Gettysburg slips to No. 15.

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/

D-Mac or anyone in the know:  Are the three Mid-Atlantic voters still the same as when the poll started?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 09, 2008, 05:01:19 pm
r.w. mcnickels if you are refering to back when the poll first started, the answer is no. I am not sure the turnover and I am not sure who the original three where. I also don't know who all the voters are from the Mid-Atlantic, so there could be more than three! Realize that may not actually help you! :)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: CCbball#1 on December 09, 2008, 05:01:37 pm
Anybody know what has happened to Dickinson so far this year? it certainly seemed on paper they would be better than the showing they had against Washington. Also, what is everybody seeing with F&M so far? I have a feeling their win against Hopkins may be a bit inflated, even with it being as hard as it is to win down in Baltimore, because Hopkins just does not have the firepower they used to, not to mention only one good forward in Farber Miller to run their system instead instead of the two the usually have. I can't see F&M sustaining what they have been doing so far because they are so young and have a played a relatively easy schedule. This league has been known to punish younger players going around the second time in the league schedule due to the amount of scouting done. Thoughts?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 09, 2008, 05:34:00 pm
Although I haven't seen them yet, I think F&M will be a playoff team this year.  The reports are they are young, yes, but they are also athletic and well balanced.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 09, 2008, 05:41:02 pm
d3hoops...there are other good freshman who will surface that are not getting deserved  minutesyet. stay tuned.

I agree.  Freshmen will see little playing time at Gettysburg, Ursinus,  Dickinson or other veteran teams.  Mike Walther at Ursinus is going to be very good but will be coming off the bench this year.  Probably a starter as a sophomore if he earns it.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 09, 2008, 11:27:50 pm
yes, D3, and there are others. it will be interesting to see who might step up this season as a freshman with lots of up side.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 09, 2008, 11:50:54 pm
D-Mac or anyone in the know:  Are the three Mid-Atlantic voters still the same as when the poll started?

One of the original three Mid-Atlantic voters is still around. There aren't many people who have voted for all 10 years.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 10, 2008, 09:04:22 pm
Ouch

December 9
Moravian 61, Swarthmore 59

At least to myself and Unique

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 10, 2008, 09:20:00 pm
F & M  won so therefore to make life easy

Unique and I are 1 - 1 for the picks and the rest of you brilliant tellers of the basketball world are 2 - 0

Hence-forth
overall standings 1st half

Diplomanic1           17  -  3 (.850)
ne-ball                 21  -  4 (.840)
r.w.mcnickels         21  -  5 (.808)
Reserved Seat       20  -  5 (.800)
Brce4                   20  -  5 (.800)
D.B.Cooper            19  -  6 (.760)
old ends               19  -  6 (.760)
Dipsetdynasty       18  -  8 (.692)
UniqueNewYork     10  -  7 (.588)
Gabriel                  2  -  0 (1.000)



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 10, 2008, 09:25:06 pm
1st half pick-ems for 12/13 and 12/15

12/13
Gettysburg    at    Widener

12/15
Wesley          at     Washington
Moravian       at     Muhlenberg

enjoy


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 10, 2008, 10:15:03 pm
F&M's game was a series of spurts.  Every time one team got a lead; the other fought back with their own run.  Fortunately, F&M has 7 players who can score, giving them a lot of options.  Milligan had a nice line except for the turnovers.  Once he gets over his freshman errors, the team will be extremely hard to beat.  Brooks plays a very athletic game and has the ability to cover a man much taller than him.   Selig and Tolliver continued their strong play off the bench.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 10, 2008, 10:20:32 pm
Pick-ems for 12/13 and 12/15

12/13
Gettysburg(need to prove they're deserving of their ranking)

12/15
Washington(toss-up)
Muhlenberg

Supporting the CC
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on December 11, 2008, 12:21:15 am
12/13
Gettysburg

12/15
Wesley- Will be a high-scoring affair
Muhlenberg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 11, 2008, 04:43:42 pm
Predictions are Gettysburg, Washington & Muhlenberg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 11, 2008, 10:32:42 pm
picks

Gettysburg
Washington
Moravian
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on December 11, 2008, 10:34:45 pm
Picks 10/23 & 25

Widener (must say both are enigmatic to me now)
Washington (have no idea here)
Muhlenberg (should win but Moravian prone to upset Mules in past)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on December 11, 2008, 11:20:00 pm
Widener
Wesley
Muhlenberg
Widener and Gettysburg are both early season top 25's who have underachieved a little. Wesley has Johnson who can score at will and as a previous poster noted the mules are 20 points worse on the road, but are playing Moravian at home
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 12, 2008, 10:36:28 am


Here are my picks for 10/13 and 10/15:

Gettysburg @ Widener:   Gettysburg

Wesley @ Washington:   Washington (taking cc and home team here - your guess is as good as mine in this game)

Moravian @ Muhlenberg:   Muhlenberg  (much better at home which is a very tough place for visitors to play)

Have a great weekend! Good luck to all. Regards,

Eric
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 13, 2008, 10:01:12 am
gettysburg
washington
muhlenberg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 13, 2008, 10:49:50 am
12/13 pick:
Widener

12/15 picks:
Wesley
Muhlenberg
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 13, 2008, 10:17:35 pm
This is going to hurt Gettysburg in the rankings.

December 13

Widener  80,   Gettysburg   75

congrats to those who picked it correct.. wait till monday for the rest,

I will be posting a pick-em tomorrow for next weeks games.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 14, 2008, 10:52:06 am
pick-ems for middle week game

12/17/08
Guilford  at  McDaniel ( 1st half game)



enjoy

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on December 14, 2008, 11:14:10 am
Old Ends
     Mules don't play Washington College until January.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 14, 2008, 11:27:02 am
I printed out a copy of the Centennial Schedule and it shows. I'll check the team web sites.. thanks for the heads up..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 14, 2008, 11:29:48 am
Check it and corrected it.. Can not trust anything you read any more  :D :D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 14, 2008, 08:38:12 pm
pick-ems for middle week game

12/17/08
Guilford  at  McDaniel ( 1st half game)



enjoy



Pick Guilford
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on December 14, 2008, 11:34:24 pm
Picks for 12/17/08
Guilford 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 15, 2008, 05:23:08 pm
Pick Guilford.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 15, 2008, 05:45:47 pm
pick-ems

12/17/08
Guilford
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 15, 2008, 07:14:37 pm
Picks for 12/17

McDaniel someone has to stay with the conference team...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 15, 2008, 07:20:36 pm
Stats are in for games thru 12/15..

SCORING OFFENSE
## Team                      G   W-L   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall.  7   7-0   579  82.7
 2.Ursinus.............        6   5-1   479  79.8

SCORING DEFENSE
## Team                  G   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.McDaniel............   6   347  57.8
 2.Haverford...........  5   299  59.8

FREE THROW PERCENTAGES
## Team                     G    FTM   FTA   Pct
-------------------------  --------------------
 1.Ursinus.............       6     85   110  .773
 2.Johns Hopkins.......  7    114   153  .745


FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGES
## Team                      G     FG   FGA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Ursinus.............        6    173   335  .516
 2.Franklin & Marshall.  7    221   428  .516

REBOUNDING OFFENSE
## Team                    G   Reb Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.Muhlenberg..........  5   217  43.4
 2.Ursinus.............      6   232  38.7


REBOUNDING DEFENSE
## Team                      G   Reb Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.Johns Hopkins.......   7   198  28.3
 2.Franklin & Marshall.  7   208  29.7


see the rest here: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm)





Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on December 15, 2008, 11:38:17 pm
12/17 pick

Another tough one, Guilford with a bit more talent but a long trip to Westminster?

McDaniel plays the terror card (for the CC mojo)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on December 15, 2008, 11:46:45 pm
Mules beat Moravian tonight. Pick for 12/17 Guilford
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 16, 2008, 07:52:24 am
i pick guilford
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 16, 2008, 07:16:15 pm
Results from 12/13 and 12/15

D.B.Cooper        3  -  0  Congrat of the picks
Reserved Seat   2  -  1
Gabriel             2  -  1
Brce4               2  -  1
Diplomanic1       2  -  1
ne-ball             2  -  1
r.w.mcnickels     2  -  1
UniqueNewYork  1  -  2
Old ends           1  -  2

Overall

Diplomanic1      19  -  4 (.826)
ne-ball            23  -  5 (.821)
Gabriel             4  -  1  (.800)
r.w.mcnickels    23  -  6 (.793)
Reserved Seat  22  -  6 (.786)
D.B.Cooper       22  -  6  (.786)
Brce4              22  -  6  (.786)
old ends           20  -  8  (.714)
dipsetdynasty  18  -  8  (.692)
UniqueNewYork 11  -  9 (.550)

   
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: oldford on December 16, 2008, 08:10:27 pm
Chaz Thomas has apparently switched to Haverford's indoor track team. He did extremely well in the most recent meet. The Haverford athletic page has the details.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on December 17, 2008, 09:17:58 am
I noticed that that Ursinus dropped in the top 25 poll without losing & G-burg fell all the way to presumpive #26. On the brighter note the upstart unheralded surprise Dips get a single vote (dare we say #T40). Dips can't have received any votes for 2-3 years minimum.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 17, 2008, 10:35:03 am
12/17 pick:

Guilford steals a close one in Westminster.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 17, 2008, 10:36:57 am
Chaz Thomas has apparently switched to Haverford's indoor track team. He did extremely well in the most recent meet. The Haverford athletic page has the details.

It's not often a two-time conference all-star switches sports during the season.  Chaz definitely left his mark on Haverford hoops, leading the Fords to the CC title game in '07.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 17, 2008, 04:47:48 pm


Folks -

In my pick-em for 12/17, I guess I am going against popular opinion and the tide of my fellow prognosticators. I am selecting McDaniel in close game due to home court advantage. Guilford may be the better team but travel and bad weather can take its toll! Should be close either way.

Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 17, 2008, 05:05:00 pm
chaz thomas was a co captain on Haverford's basketball team, is in his senior year, and quit after the loss to muhlenberg in which he scored 4 points.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on December 18, 2008, 05:27:59 pm
Pick em

I'll take William & Mary over the Chaz-less Fords if this is in the contest
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on December 18, 2008, 05:54:14 pm
I pick William & Mary.  I did not think Chaz was classy two years ago when I saw him the first time.  Now I know he's not.  He quit on his team.  But, maybe it's addition by subtraction.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 18, 2008, 06:00:31 pm
Is the William & Mary/Haverford game a pick-em?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 18, 2008, 06:34:32 pm
Yes 12/20 is a 1st half pick-em

Haverford at William & Mary


This is the last pick-em until conference play begins 1/7/09 So this is the end of the first half..

Only reason is, tournament games are fun but coaches try a lot of lineup changes to see what will work for the regular season.

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 18, 2008, 06:44:08 pm
You know who won the one game pick this week... Gabriel, Unique,Reserved,NE,Brce and RW
the rest of use took to hit

Overall

Gabriel                   5  -  1 (.833)
ne-ball                  24  -  5 ( .828)
r.w.mcnickels         24  -  6 (.800)
Reserved Seat       23  -  6 (.793)
Brce4                   23  -  6 (.793)
Diplomanic1           19  -  5 (.792)
D.B.Cooper            22  -  7 (.789)
Dipsetdynasty       18  -  8 ( .692)
old ends               20  -  9 ( .690)
UniqueNewYork     12  -  9 ( .571)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 18, 2008, 06:48:12 pm
Pick for 12/20

William & Mary
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 18, 2008, 06:50:55 pm
article on the McDaniel game
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2008/12/18/sports/asports121808.txt (http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2008/12/18/sports/asports121808.txt)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on December 18, 2008, 07:25:17 pm
William & Mary
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on December 18, 2008, 09:08:43 pm
Shocked to hear Thomas quit in his Senior year. Who does that? William & Mary is the pick.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 18, 2008, 09:51:44 pm
william and mary
yes, not a good move at all quitting on your team like that (chaz thomas at haverford). i do agree that the team might be better off, even if he is a talented kid. the guys need to stick together and go hard.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on December 18, 2008, 10:10:43 pm
William & Mary
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 19, 2008, 07:04:44 pm


My Pick for 12/20:

William And Mary. Have a great weekend! Regards to all.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 20, 2008, 11:00:35 am
12/20 pick:

William & Mary

Even with Chaz on the team playing at the top of his electric game, the Fords wouldn't have had much of a chance.


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ne-ball on December 20, 2008, 11:11:19 pm
true...the fords were outmatched. nice game by the freshman ian goldberg (haverford) in a tough but predictable defeat
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 21, 2008, 02:35:15 pm
Well everone got that right so the overall is as follows

1st half overall
Gabriel                6  -  1 (.857)
ne-ball               25 - 5 ( .833)
r.w.mcnickels      25  - 6 (.806)
Reserved Seat     24  - 6 ( .800)
Brce4                 24  - 6 ( .800)
Diplomanic1         20  - 5 ( .800)
old ends             21  - 9 (.700)
D.B.Cooper         23  -  7 (.767)
UniqueNewYork   13  -  9 (.591)

The second half cont'd Jan 7th with the return of conference play.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 21, 2008, 02:38:44 pm
Just in case you forgot where you are in the 2nd half

Overall 2nd half

Dipsetdynasty         8  -  2
Diplomanic1             8  -  2
old ends                 8  -  2
Reserved Seat         7  -  3
 ne-ball                  7  -  3
D.B.Cooper             7  -  3
UniqueNewYork        6  -  4
r.w.mcnickels          6  -  4
Gabriel                   3  -  2
Brce4                    5  -  5
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on December 23, 2008, 12:08:05 pm


Fellow Centennial Conference Fans
(and Fellow Pick-Em Prognosticators) -

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all! Enjoy the break. See you in the New Year.

Eric

GO DIPLOMATS

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on December 24, 2008, 02:07:33 pm
Same to you Eric - happy holidays, everyone!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 24, 2008, 04:23:50 pm
Happy Holidays to all

I will post the next pick-ems before New Year

Have a good one
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 24, 2008, 04:33:15 pm
Weekly release is in

http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_1222.pdf (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_1222.pdf)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 30, 2008, 05:42:46 pm
Pick-ems for 1/7/09  2nd half

Gettysburg     @     Washington
Haverford       @     Dickinson
Muhlenberg    @     McDaniel
Swarthmore    @    Franklin & Marshall
Ursinus           @    John Hopkins

Think about them.. not needed until noon on the 7th.......

Happy New Yeay to all...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on December 30, 2008, 05:46:43 pm
Just in case you missed some results


December 28
Dickinson    73       Hendrix     62

December 29
Ursinus      75        Lebanon Valley  64




Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 03, 2009, 09:01:32 am
Some of the other results from the past week

December 30
Randolph-Macon   75    Ursinus   63
Dickinson              75   Fitchburg State   57

January 2
Johns Hopkins   62   Roger Williams   47
Gettysburg       70     Juniata              53
Haverford         61   Rutgers-Camden 48
F&M                 78    New Jersey 74

Nice to see the Conference teams do well.. F & M 8-0 so far super.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 03, 2009, 09:05:26 am
Check out the new poll,,,see if you can make the correct pick.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 03, 2009, 11:12:07 am
Anthony Brooks was missing from F&M's lineup last night due to a recent appendix operation, according to today's Intell.  Tolliver played well in his first start of the year.  The Dips play Susquehanna (7-3) tonight in the Sponaugle final.

Check out the new poll,,,see if you can make the correct pick.

Ursinus will be tough to beat, even though they've dropped a couple out of the conference.  Their guard play could carry them to another title.  The youthful Dips have been impressive, but they might still be a year away...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 03, 2009, 11:44:10 am
F&M seemed to struggle with TCNJ's offensive scheme.  It seemed that TCNJ had 5 guards on the floor most of the night.  TCNJ's lack of height didn't hindering their trapping defense.  F&M had trouble getting the ball inside; and when they did, they missed some easy opportunities.
They started the game with 3 misses underneath on the first possession.  Later in the game they missed on 4 opportunities in one possession under the basketball.  Hopefully, the rust was the culprit.  Brooks' athleticism was missed.  Johnson's play showed that F&M has another threat coming off the bench.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 04, 2009, 08:35:49 am
Mules struggled some after the holidays but beat Hood in the Moravian tourney opening round. Congratulations to Coach Madeira on his 300th win at Muhlenberg.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 04, 2009, 05:42:47 pm
Picks for 1/7/09

Gettysburg
Dickinson
McDaniel
F & M
Ursinus

Enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 04, 2009, 05:46:08 pm
Story on F & M's victory

http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232161 (http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232161)

Story on Muhlenburg's coach Madiera.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/all-muhlenberg.6732552jan04,0,2763016.story (http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/all-muhlenberg.6732552jan04,0,2763016.story)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 04, 2009, 05:52:36 pm
Yesterday's results

January 3
Cornell   99              Ursinus     45
Merchant Marine 70   Haverford  65
Gettysburg   62         Albright     60
McDaniel      66         York          63
Muhlenberg   77        Hood        68
F & M          81        Susquehanna 79
Salisbury    87           Washington 85 (OT)
Chapman   88           Swarthmore   59

 

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 04, 2009, 05:54:52 pm
Pick-ems for 1/7/09  2nd half

Gettysburg     @     Washington
Haverford       @     Dickinson
Muhlenberg    @     McDaniel
Swarthmore    @    Franklin & Marshall
Ursinus           @    John Hopkins

Think about them.. not needed until noon on the 7th.......

Just a reminder
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 04, 2009, 09:56:59 pm
picks
     Gettysburg over an improving Washington on the road.
     Dickinson
     Muhlenberg
     F&M
     Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 04, 2009, 10:08:50 pm
Pick-ems for 1/7/09

Gettysburg
Dickinson
Muhlenberg
Franklin & Marshall
Ursinus
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 04, 2009, 11:22:42 pm
1/7 picks

G-burg
Dickinson
McDaniel
F & M
Ursinus (do or fall in deep hole for JHU)

Dips won over resilient Susquehanna, looked OK but erratic (though without Brooks, however Tolliver has improved much since last year) Also saw Scranton & Richard Stockton play. Royals didn't look as well rounded as Crusaders but Ospreys would be a huge challenge for the young Dips at present. Maybe Ursinus or G-burg could hang with Ospreys & there retro 80's Wideneresque 1-3-1 style.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 05, 2009, 11:18:11 am
Picks for 1/7/09

Gettysburg---need to resurrect the season
Dickinson--home court and Haverford is weak with out Chaz
McDaniel--home court
F&M--home court and Swat is really weak
Hopkins--Ursinus struggles as they adjust for injuries

Gabriel
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: d3hoopsfan on January 05, 2009, 01:15:29 pm
What is the injury status for Ursinus?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 06, 2009, 12:52:40 pm
1/7 picks:

Gettysburg
Dickinson
McDaniel
F&M
Ursinus

Noticed that Hilton didn't play for UC at Cornell - is that the only injury for the Bears?  As long as Noonan and Cousart are healthy, I think the Bears should win in Baltimore.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: commish on January 06, 2009, 02:39:23 pm
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Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on January 06, 2009, 06:03:59 pm
Picks for 1/7/09

Gettysburg     
Dickinson
McDaniel
Franklin & Marshall
Ursinus         
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 06, 2009, 09:35:22 pm

Fellow Prognosticators -

Welcome back. Hope everyone's holidays were excellent. Its good that the second half of DIII basketball is upon us - bing it on!

Here are my selections for the 1/07 Pick-Ems:

Gettysburg (might be close game)
Dickinson (Devils should be the better team. Kline Center a tough place to play.)
McDaniel (Terror getting better and Mules never strong on the road)
F&M (Mayser Center mastery continues)
Ursinus

Good luck! Regards to all!

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 07, 2009, 11:59:30 am
What is the injury status for Ursinus?

I hear that Matt Hilton has a foot injury that will keep him out indefinitely---perhaps for the season.  He is a key player for the Bears, both offensively and defensively.  The Bears success this season will depend on how well the bench picks up the slack.  Howell, Page and freshman Mike Walther need to improve their play and contribute more each and every game.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 07, 2009, 03:27:48 pm
That's a tough blow for Hilton and Ursinus, but I'm sure other guys will pick up the slack.  When Shattuck was playing on one leg last year, I was impressed with how the rest of the Bears raised their level of play.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 07, 2009, 05:43:33 pm
I know the night is not over yet but with the games moving along quickly now here is the pick-em's for 1/10/09

McDaniel        @  Ursinus
Gettysburg     @ Muhlenberg ( battle of the berg's)
John Hopkins  @ Haverford
Dickinson        @ Swarthmore
Franklin & Marshall @ Washington

Not needed until noon on the 1700hrs( 5pm) on the 10th

good luck and enjoy..
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 07, 2009, 05:47:09 pm
Congrats to Kizmahr Grell, Dickinson, for Player of the week honors

The rest can be seen here:
http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_105.pdf (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_105.pdf)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 07, 2009, 05:52:50 pm
Stats are in thru Jan 6th

SCORING OFFENSE
## Team                     G   W-L   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall.  9   9-0   738  82.0
 2.Washington..........  9   4-5   684  76.0
 3.Ursinus.............      9   6-3   662  73.6

SCORING DEFENSE
## Team                  G   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.McDaniel............   9   526  58.4
 2.Gettysburg..........  8   488  61.0
 3.Johns Hopkins...... 9   558  62.0

FREE THROW PERCENTAGES
## Team                  G    FTM   FTA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Johns Hopkins.... 9    162   219  .740
 2.Ursinus.............  9    120   163  .736

FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGES
## Team                     G     FG   FGA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall.  9    279   542  .515
 2.Johns Hopkins.......  9    213   438  .486
 3.Ursinus.............       9    239   492  .486

REBOUNDING OFFENSE
## Team                   G   Reb Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.Muhlenberg..........  8   341  42.6
 2.Dickinson...........      7   268  38.3
 3.Franklin & Marshall.  9   342  38.0

REBOUNDING DEFENSE
## Team                    G   Reb Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.Johns Hopkins.......  9   246  27.3
 2.Franklin & Marshall.  9   268  29.8

SCORING
## Player-Team               Cl  G   FG  3FG   FT  Pts Avg/G
------------------------------------------------------------
 1.Tim Kohlrus-WC.......... . SR  9   58   13   39  168  18.7
 2.John Noonan-UC......... ..     9   59   19   24  161  17.9
 3.Kizmahr Grell-DC.........   SR  7   41   12   31  125  17.9
 4.Tom Leszczynski-DC....... SR  7   47    3   24  121  17.3

enjoy









Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 07, 2009, 06:08:58 pm
Article about McDaniel's basketball team
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/07/sports/dsports1709.txt (http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/07/sports/dsports1709.txt)

Here is one about Dickinson's  Tom Leszczynski
http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/ny-skhero045986706jan04,0,4746293.story (http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/ny-skhero045986706jan04,0,4746293.story)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 07, 2009, 06:39:42 pm
See how your team ranks against others  take a look at the NCAA stats
http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary (http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on January 08, 2009, 08:32:51 am
My picks for 1/10/09

Ursinus
Gettysburg   
John Hopkins
Dickinson     
Washington

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 08, 2009, 08:49:28 am
Ursinus(struggling, but at home
Gettysburg (too much size)
Haverford(possible home victory)
Dickinson(Swarthmore hasn't shown anything)
Franklin & Marshall(young, but interesting-a lot of talent)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 08, 2009, 12:30:27 pm
Picks for 1/10/2009

Ursinus (Home court , they are dealing with their rotation without Hilton)
Muhlenberg (Home court)
Haverford (Home court and they seem to be better without Chaz)
Dickinson (They have to win sometime)
Washington (Upset.  Home court and they are playing better)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 08, 2009, 02:06:35 pm
1/10 picks

Ursinus (Home cooking more than enough)
G-burg (toss-up, empty cavern = not quite the usual frontier justice)
Haverford (home court hunch)
Dickinson (losing this one finishes team that whipped up on non-conference foes)
Washington

Dips ripe for plucking as they leave friendly confines for unfriendly Cain. This begins 4 game road trip that will give test of fire to young Dips. 4 road games in 8 days, if they could win even 2 I make them contender for top 2-3 spots.

I now like Gettysburg more to win CC even more since Ursinus is clearly not the power they have been in recent years.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 08, 2009, 03:41:04 pm
1/10 picks

Ursinus (Home cooking more than enough)
G-burg (toss-up, empty cavern = not quite the usual frontier justice)
Haverford (home court hunch)
Dickinson (losing this one finishes team that whipped up on non-conference foes)
Washington

(I now like Gettysburg more to win CC even more since Ursinus is clearly not the power they have been in recent years.)

I agree.  I said this early on.  Ursinus lost only two (now three) players from last year but their names are Shattuck, Shema & Hilton.  Major losses.  They were over rated at the beginning of the season but look for them to come on strong as they normally do.  Do not count them out---they will get better as we move through the season. 

Interesting look.  F&M is 10-0.  They have played only two games away from home and one could argue that they have played only one or two quality opponents at the most.

Ursinus is 6-4.  They have played seven out of ten games away from home.
Quality opponents---Cornell (who beat Lafayette by 31 this week), Williams, Randolph-Macon (should be/will be in the top 25), St Lawrence and Gettysburg.

Which team grew the most during the preseason by playing teams as good or better than them?
Which team played a very soft preseason schedule?

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 08, 2009, 04:56:37 pm
Picks for 1-10
Ursinus (McDaniel has a nice team but Bears win at home)
Muhlenberg ( If I keep picking them maybe they will win 1, always good at home)
Hopkins( Not sure what to make of Haverford yet)
Dickinson (not playing well in conference but Swat is struggling)
F&M( they are for real)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 08, 2009, 06:31:05 pm
1/10 picks:

Ursinus
Muhlenberg
Johns Hopkins
Dickinson
Washington

Tough slate of games, but what else should we expect?

Like a few others, I'm going with the Chestertown upset.  Feeling good about their record, the Dips will roll into the House of Cain and suffer a 5-point loss in a high-scoring affair.  F&M has drastically turned the corner from the past three years of mediocrity, but this is still a young team without much experience on the road.  The jury is still out until after the 4-game road swing.  The Dips might be a year ahead of schedule in the rebuilding process, but they won't return from the road trip unblemished -- and knowing the way I pick, I'll miss it when it happens.

F&M is 10-0.  They have played only two games away from home and one could argue that they have played only one or two quality opponents at the most.

Ursinus is 6-4.  They have played seven out of ten games away from home.
Quality opponents---Cornell (who beat Lafayette by 31 this week), Williams, Randolph-Macon (should be/will be in the top 25), St Lawrence and Gettysburg.

A look inside F&M's own athletic department backs up this scheduling argument.  The women's lax team regularly plays one of the toughest non-conference schedules in D-III, and the coach credited that with helping them win the national title two years ago.  Although that type of scheduling is probably easier to do in lacrosse, it certainly applies to basketball.  Ursinus will benefit from playing those teams.  F&M should schedule tough road trips (New England? Ohio? California?) on a yearly basis.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 08, 2009, 07:40:42 pm
results 1/07/09 pick-ems

Garbiel                4  -  1
r.w.mcnickels      3  -  2
UniqueNewYork   3  -  2
Diplomaniac1       3  -  2
old ends             3  -  2
D.B.Cooper         3  -  2
Brce4                2  -  3
Reserved Seat    2  -  3


Overall
Dipsetdynasty     8  -  2  (.800)
Diplomaniac1      11 -  4  (.733)
Old ends            11 -  4  (.733)
Gabriel                7 -  3  (.700)
ne-ball                7 -  3  (.700)
D.B.Cooper         10 -  5  (.667)
r.w.mcnickels       9  -  6  (.600)
Reserved Seat     9  -  6  (.600)
UniqueNewYork    9  -  6  (.600)
Brce4                 7  -  8  (.467)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 08, 2009, 07:49:31 pm
Picks for 1/10

McDaniel   
Gettysburg
John Hopkins
Dickinson
Franklin & Marshall

good luck to all
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 08, 2009, 07:52:33 pm
News stories from yesterdays action

McDaniel http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/08/sports/bsports010909.txt (http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/08/sports/bsports010909.txt)

F & M http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232302 (http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232302)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 09, 2009, 07:11:34 pm
The Centennial Conference got some ink in the Around the Nation column this week.  It's under the Hoopsville section:

"Centennial re-emerging?"

http://www.d3hoops.com/nation/
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 09, 2009, 07:16:20 pm


Folks -

The following are my selections for the 1/10 pick-ems:

McDaniel @ Ursinus - Ursinus (might be close)
Gettysburg @ Muhlenberg - Muhlenberg (Mules in a close one at home)
Johns Hopkins @ Haverford - Johns Hopkins
Dickinson @ Swarthmore - Dickinson
F&M @ Washington - F&M (gotta go with my heart)

Hope the snow stays away tomorrow so that I can travel to see the Dips play. Good luck to all. Regards

Eric


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 10, 2009, 10:09:47 am
Wish I was going to F&M's game today, but decided I didn't want to drive that far by myself especially considering the forecast.
It will be interesting to see how F&M's young squad deals with the upcoming 4 away games.
F&M will need to get Brooks back soon and have Selig healthy again to be at full strength. With Brooks' recent surgery and Selig's bout with the flu, F&M has been able to improve their depth a little.  Tolliver has had the opportunity to shoot more often, and he has shown an outstanding touch from 3 point range.  Johnson has shown signs of his potential, but he needs to learn how to play defense on a consistent basis.
Go Dips.  I'll be following the updated play-by-play on the internet.
Enjoy your trip, Eric.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 10, 2009, 01:01:15 pm
Reserved Seat - have you heard anything on when Brooks might return to action?

Safe travels to everyone making road trips today.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 10, 2009, 01:15:50 pm
Brooks needs the doctor to tell the coaches he's cleared to play.
He's listed to start today, so the clearance must have come through.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 10, 2009, 04:19:44 pm
Brooks needs the doctor to tell the coaches he's cleared to play.
He's listed to start today, so the clearance must have come through.

Thanks Reserved, I see he's in the lineup on live stats.  But nothing's happening on live stats - wonder if the women's game ran late?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 10, 2009, 04:57:51 pm
Half
F&M 36
Washington 35

technical foul on the bench cost F&M 4 points in the last 2 seconds of the first period

Tolliver needs to make 2 more 3-pointers to qualify for a national ranking.
The qualifying rules say you must make 2.5 threes per game played to make the list.  His current percentage would make him number one in the nation.  The current leader was shooting 63%.
Rank   Name, Team                      Cl        Ht        Pos     G      3FG      3FGA     3FG%
1   Mitch Schafer, Manchester   So.   6-4   C   13   33   52   63.5

Tolliver  26 for 39
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 10, 2009, 06:42:56 pm
The CC hierarchy is more illuminated after today's tilts.

I'll rank the teams in order of their playoff potential.

1. Gettysburg (luckily my pick at start, but egg laid at Ursinus threw me)
2. McDaniel (Thought they would be good but not this good)
3. F&M (I'll gladly sabotage my pick-em status if they keep winning on road while I pick against them)
4. Johns Hopkins (Gave up on them after Goldfarb loss to Dips)
5. Ursinus (kept here out of deference to their decade of CC dynasty)
6. Dickinson (1st win in CC might wake up this experienced team)
7. Muhlenberg (Lack of ability to win on road keeps Mules out of playoff mix)
8-9. Haverford/Washington (both dangerous but out of mix)
10. SWAT (poor Garnet could be a long year at bottom of this balanced tough conference)

More on Bears, instead of aura of invincibility there's the sense of blood in the water. They were not what they've been & the loss of one of their top experienced scorers will now have every team believing they can take them anywhere even at Collegeville. By comparison the pre-season Dips have weathered illness & injury & have found a way to win ugly. F&M will lose soon, probably in Westminster & definitely in Allentown if they were still unbeaten, plus the Fords could upset at home too.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 10, 2009, 07:25:19 pm
Big win for F&M on the road.
Winning at Washington should boost the confidence of a young team.
Despite the fact that both starting guards fouled out with significant time left, F&M didn't let the game slip away at the end.  Brooks must have been rusty after missing so much time.
If the weather is reasonable on Tuesday, I hope to see F&M at McDaniel.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 11, 2009, 12:38:08 am
The CC hierarchy is more illuminated after today's tilts.

I'll rank the teams in order of their playoff potential.

1. Gettysburg (luckily my pick at start, but egg laid at Ursinus threw me)
2. McDaniel (Thought they would be good but not this good)
3. F&M (I'll gladly sabotage my pick-em status if they keep winning on road while I pick against them)
4. Johns Hopkins (Gave up on them after Goldfarb loss to Dips)
5. Ursinus (kept here out of deference to their decade of CC dynasty)
6. Dickinson (1st win in CC might wake up this experienced team)
7. Muhlenberg (Lack of ability to win on road keeps Mules out of playoff mix)
8-9. Haverford/Washington (both dangerous but out of mix)
10. SWAT (poor Garnet could be a long year at bottom of this balanced tough conference)

More on Bears, instead of aura of invincibility there's the sense of blood in the water. They were not what they've been & the loss of one of their top experienced scorers will now have every team believing they can take them anywhere even at Collegeville. By comparison the pre-season Dips have weathered illness & injury & have found a way to win ugly. F&M will lose soon, probably in Westminster & definitely in Allentown if they were still unbeaten, plus the Fords could upset at home too.

Solid analysis D.B.  The surprises for me have been Dickinson (thought they'd start stronger) and F&M (preseason expectations of maybe sneaking into the CC playoffs have now increased).

McDaniel also looks like a stronger squad than I thought.  Tuesday's clash in Westminster will tell us a lot about both the Terror and Dips.  F&M can't lose Milligan and Brooks to foul trouble, turn it over 23 times, and expect to win like they did today.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 11, 2009, 08:56:37 pm
Results for 1/10

Old ends            5  -  0  (crystal ball got waxed)
UniqueNewYork  3  -  2
ReservedSeat    3  -  2
Brce4               3  -  2
Diplomanic1       3  -  2
D.B,Cooper        2  -  3
r.w.mcnickels     2  -  3
Gabriel              1  -  4

Overall

Dipsetdynasty     8  -  2  (.800)
Old ends            16  - 4  (.800)
Diplomanic1        14  - 6  (.700)
ne-ball               7  -  3  (.700)
Reserved Seat    12 -  8 (.600)
UniqueNewYork   12 -  8 (.600)
D.B.Cooper        12  -  8 (.600)
r.w.mcnickels     11  -  9 (.550)
Gabriel               8  -  7  (.533)
Brce4                10  - 10 (.500)

Sorry for the late post had no power for a few hours today.

Enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 11, 2009, 09:04:08 pm
News from Yesterdays games

Ursinus http://www.pottsmerc.com/articles/2009/01/11/sports/srv0000004470846.txt (http://www.pottsmerc.com/articles/2009/01/11/sports/srv0000004470846.txt)

F & M http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232447 (http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232447)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 11, 2009, 09:06:54 pm
Pick-em for 1/13/09

Franklin & Marshall   @  McDaniel  ( maybe game of the week)
Haverford               @  Gettysburg
Swarthmore            @  Ursinus
Washington            @  Muhlenberg
Dickinson                @  John Hopkins

Need them before tip off on Tuesday.

Enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 11, 2009, 09:37:18 pm
Pick-em for 1/13/09

Franklin & Marshall(only one I know to pick-haven't picked against them since we started)
Gettysburg
Ursinus(shouldn't lose this one)
Muhlenberg(toss up-picked home team)
John Hopkins(Dickinson's been a disappointment so far)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 11, 2009, 09:49:21 pm
Pick-em for 1/13/09

Franklin & Marshall(only one I know to pick-haven't picked against them since we started)

homer--  :D :D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 11, 2009, 09:53:28 pm
Picks for 1/13/09

Speakings of homer

McDaniel
Gettysburg
Ursinus
Muhlenberg
John Hopkins

Just seems that this day the home teams get the nod.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on January 11, 2009, 10:17:10 pm
My picks for 1/13/09

McDaniel 
Gettysburg
Ursinus
Muhlenberg
John Hopkins

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 11, 2009, 11:38:26 pm
1/13 picks

McDaniel
G-burg
Ursinus
M-berg (there's no place like home, esp. the Mule Cave)
JHU (suspect Devils will be in this game though)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 12, 2009, 10:44:37 am
After my lousy predictions on 1/10, don't pay any attention to me but here are my 1/13 predictions anyway:

McDaniel -- home court
Gettysburg -- to talented not to play better
Ursinus -- don't count them out yet
Muhlenberg -- tough at home
JHU -- home court and Dickinson hasn't shown anything yet
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 12, 2009, 11:07:26 am


More on Bears, instead of aura of invincibility there's the sense of blood in the water. They were not what they've been & the loss of one of their top experienced scorers will now have every team believing they can take them anywhere even at Collegeville. By comparison the pre-season Dips have weathered illness & injury & have found a way to win ugly. F&M will lose soon, probably in Westminster & definitely in Allentown if they were still unbeaten, plus the Fords could upset at home too.

My thoughts on D.B. Cooper's comments:

Ursinus was put on a pedestal at the beginning of the season which they did not deserve---their national ranking was based on reputation only.  They started out well going 6-1 with wins over some good teams.  They fell apart during the second half of the Randolph-Macon game.  They were cruising at half time with a seven point lead.  They lost Matt Hilton to a season ending injury in the second half and, uncharacteristically, lost their composure dealing with R-M's relentless defensive pressure in the second half.  They have not regained their composure as yet.  It did not help the team psyche  to play an outstanding Cornell team in Ithaca right after that and get blown out 99-45.  That was an unfortunate scheduling mistake.  Cornell will make the NCAA DI tournament this year as Ivy League champs and was way too good for any DIII team to face and gain anything from it.  Ursinus has a history of playing DI teams.  In recent years they have played Princeton, Bucknell and Lafayette----but nothing like the buzz saw they ran into in Ithaca.

Clearly, Hilton had assumed the role of "on-court leader" that formerly belonged to Shattuck.  Losing him turned out to be more devastating than the statistics would lead you to believe.  Will any of the Bears step up?  The leadership role should be assumed by either Noonan, Page or Cousart or all of the above.  If they don't, the Bears can start planning on next season.  If they do---they will make the playoffs and be a tough opponent.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 12, 2009, 12:42:09 pm
Picks for 1/13
F&M ( has the athleticism to beat McDaniel on the road)
Gettysburg
Ursinus
Muhlenberg( have to start winning to have a playoff chance)
Hopkins (Dickinson has disappointed so far)
I need some wins, I'm at 500. Yuk
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 12, 2009, 07:30:36 pm
Player of the week is--James McNally from Franklin and Marshall. Congrats for your efforts.

Weekly release is in: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_112.pdf (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_112.pdf)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 12, 2009, 07:33:46 pm
D.B. , Gabriel, and Reserved  Seat... Good stuff and looks like you have done your homework. So far the weather has not let this old timer travel to any games. Have been watching the live stats, but it is not like being there.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 12, 2009, 07:48:21 pm
Stats are in:

Through games of Jan 12, 2009 (All games)

SCORING OFFENSE
## Team                     G   W-L   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall. 11  11-0   905  82.3
 2.Washington..........    11   4-7   821  74.6

SCORING DEFENSE
## Team                   G   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.McDaniel............    11   662  60.2
 2.Gettysburg..........  10   606  60.6
 3.Muhlenberg.......... 10   619  61.9

FREE THROW PERCENTAGES
## Team                    G    FTM   FTA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Johns Hopkins....... 11    204   271  .753
 2.Ursinus.............      11    152   204  .745

FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGES
## Team                     G     FG   FGA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall. 11    340   646  .526
 2.Ursinus.............       11    289   595  .486

3-POINT FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGES
## Team                     G     FG   FGA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall. 11     37    78  .474
 2.Ursinus.............       11     74   197  .376

REBOUNDING OFFENSE
## Team                    G   Reb Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.Muhlenberg.......... 10   415  41.5
 2.Dickinson...........     9   345  38.3

REBOUNDING DEFENSE
## Team                     G   Reb Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.Johns Hopkins.......  11   320  29.1
 2.Franklin & Marshall. 11   331  30.1

SCORING
## Player-Team                 Cl  G   FG  3FG   FT  Pts Avg/G
------------------------------------------------------------
 1.Tim Kohlrus-WC...........   SR 11   66   16   55  203  18.5
 2.John Noonan-UC...........  SR 11   73   23   32  201  18.3
 3.Kizmahr Grell-DC.........    SR  9   52   14   41  159  17.7
 4.James McNally-F&M........ SO 11   74    0   43  191  17.4

View the rest here http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm)

enjoy
















Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 12, 2009, 07:49:19 pm
Old Ends,
I'm scheduled to travel to McDaniel to see F&M tomorrow.  I've been to 9 of 11 games so far.
I'm working on plans to attend Haverford on Thursday and Muhlenberg for Saturday.  I figure I've seen well over 500 F&M games since 1966(pre-Robinson).  In the late 60's any wins over 5 was a fantastic season.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 12, 2009, 07:56:53 pm
RS.. trust me when they say the older you get the less risk you take.. It is true.. I know when I was younger I did not think slowing down was an option. Naps are nice and needed. Still heading to FL in Feb to do some sailing.. not as much traffic on the ocean roads.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 12, 2009, 08:03:40 pm
F & M followers check D3 top 25 and smile  ;D

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 12, 2009, 09:58:30 pm


Folks -

The following are my selections for the 1/13 pick-ems:

F&M @ McDaniel:   F&M   (A close one due to athleticism. I think Dips 1st loss will be in Allentown in the dark shooting environment at Muhlenberg with the homer refs - a very tough place to play)

Haverford @ Gettysburg:   Gettysburg   (Bullets are the stronger team. Ford have much to prove yet)

Swarthmore @ Usinus:   Usinus   (If Bears lose at home to the Garnet, it is likely to be a very long season in Collegeville!)

Washington @ Muhlenberg:   Muhlenberg   (Home court edge to the Mules - see note on the F&M game above)

Dickinson @ Johns Hopklins:   Johns Hopkins   (Should be a very close game - the Blue Jay will fly just a little bit faster and higher)

Good luck to all! Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 12, 2009, 11:42:01 pm
1/13 picks:

McDaniel
Gettysburg
Ursinus
Muhlenberg
Johns Hopkins

F & M followers check D3 top 25 and smile  ;D

Not something I would have predicted in November - congrats to the Dips.  No more flying under the radar for Robinson's surging youngsters.

Looks like Gettysburg might also climb back into the Top 25 soon.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 13, 2009, 05:19:14 pm
Well this pick we all have the same 4 games pick the same the only game that is different is F & M at McDaniel. Could be fun.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 13, 2009, 05:24:03 pm
Pick-ems for 1/15/09

F & M             at     Haverford
John Hopkins at  Muhlenberg
Swarthmore  at  Gettysburg
Ursinus          at  Dickinson
Washington  at  McDaniel

Make sure you Pick by tip off Thursday

Enjoy tonights games
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 13, 2009, 05:26:12 pm
Nice article about the 1973 Ursinus Basketball team.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=10473 (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=10473)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 13, 2009, 06:18:42 pm
Curious - does anyone on here actually talk about their teams, break down games they have gone to, and further analyze anything? Or is this just good for "picks"?
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 13, 2009, 07:50:48 pm
Halftime in Westminster:

McDaniel 35, F&M 24

Terror holding the Dips to just 33% from the field; Milligan and Brooks are a combined 0-7.  Josh McKay has 12 for McDaniel.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 13, 2009, 08:49:30 pm
McDaniel moves to 9-3 (4-1 CC) with a 66-57 win over F&M, ending the Dips' winning streak at 11.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 13, 2009, 10:23:26 pm
Curious - does anyone on here actually talk about their teams, break down games they have gone to, and further analyze anything? Or is this just good for "picks"?

I thought the boards were for the fans.  I didn't know our actions would being critiqued.  There's a core of fans on this board who enjoy picking the winners.

Despite the concerns of an outsider, F&M/McDaniel was an ugly display of basketball.  Both teams played offensive offenses.(At times you just wanted to throw your hands up and look away}  McKay must've had a career night for McDaniel.  He played a very physical game on both ends of the court and didn't incur an whistles until late in the game.  By the time he received his first foul, he seemed like he had at least 10.  He reared himself into good positon for easy shots.  McDaniel played a very aggressive defense which caused F&M to never get into the flow of the game.
There was a lot of sloppy ball handling by both sides.  McDaniel did seem to have better ball movement.  McDaniel kept F&M from getting any clean looks at threes.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 13, 2009, 10:27:45 pm
Sure, but there are even more people who would be interested in learning something about the teams. Myself included.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 13, 2009, 10:40:10 pm
Pick-ems for 1/15/09

F & M(hopefully they learned from their first loss)
Muhlenberg(home court should be enough of an advantage)
Gettysburg(still the class of the league, but I'll still pick F&M when they meet)
Dickinson(rebounding and home court should be enough to win)
McDaniel(should be a very physical game)

Sorry, Pat, but I can only tell you about F&M and their current opponent.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 13, 2009, 11:10:39 pm
1/15 picks

Haverford (don't trust Dips on the road)
Muhlenberg (coin toss, came up home)
G-Burg (continues march to Appomattox)
Ursinus (Devils drop another must win tilt)
McDaniel (Will take out a whupping stick on Shoremen)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 13, 2009, 11:17:32 pm
Picks for 1/15
F&M ( Haverford playing well but F&M may be better at every position)
Mules (Hopkins has owned them of late but home court is enough for mules this time)
Gettysburg ( Too hard to pick Swat to win against a contender)
Ursinus ( still the champ although Dickinson is due to beat someone)
McDaniel ( Wash plays hard and scrappy but McDaniel is just too athletic)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 14, 2009, 04:55:17 am
Curious - does anyone on here actually talk about their teams, break down games they have gone to, and further analyze anything? Or is this just good for "picks"?

I thought the boards were for the fans.  I didn't know our actions would being critiqued.  There's a core of fans on this board who enjoy picking the winners.

Despite the concerns of an outsider, F&M/McDaniel was an ugly display of basketball. 

OK - my comment had NOTHING to do with critiquing things, but it would be nice to hear people's opinions. I don't mind the picks, but when that is the only thing on here it is a bit frustrating.

As for the "outsider" comment, if that was directed at me, you are a bit off. While I certainly didn't attend a Centennial school, I wouldn't say I am an outsider. I see plenty of Centennial games during the season and know the coaches and SIDs pretty well. However, it is nice to hear from people about games they have seen, especially if I haven't gotten to a few in awhile.

It was simply a request!
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 14, 2009, 08:27:12 am
I think this is one of the more civil basketball blogs I have observed.  Try reading through the Northeast blog sometime and you will want to stick with this one.  I like thoughtful comments made in a civil manner.

My picks for 1/15

F&M                Could be a close
Muhlenberg     Home court
Gettysburg      No contest
Ursinus           A tough road contest for the Bears
McDaniel         Eke out a tough road win

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2009, 10:20:06 am
They're thoughtful comments but not very informative.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on January 14, 2009, 10:37:15 am
Pick-ems for 1/15/09

F & M (will be motivated after first loss)           
Muhlenberg (going with the home team despite Blue Jays being on a roll)
Gettysburg (didn't have to think long about this one)
Dickinson (Need Kizmar and Corey Kenny to show up at home)
McDaniel (Coming off two good wins, McDaniel will win at home)

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 14, 2009, 10:45:30 am
I think this is one of the more civil basketball blogs I have observed.  Try reading through the Northeast blog sometime and you will want to stick with this one.  I like thoughtful comments made in a civil manner.

I agree.  Some of the boards have a large quantity of inane bantering.

Over the last few years, F&M seems to have a tendency to make bad, big centers look good.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 14, 2009, 11:53:12 am
I think this is one of the more civil basketball blogs I have observed.  Try reading through the Northeast blog sometime and you will want to stick with this one.  I like thoughtful comments made in a civil manner.

I agree.  Some of the boards have a large quantity of inane bantering.

Compared to what it used to be like, I think the CC board is much improved.  I've been reading it for a long time, and I remember that it was once called "slow as molasses" on the old site.  So, I think the pick 'ems have actually helped keep the board moving and fans involved.  There isn't hard analysis in every post, but there has been plenty this season.

I actually think it's a good thing that the people who run the website want to know more about this conference.  Maybe expressing frustration over the pick 'ems wasn't the right way to go about it, but it shows that people who vote in the Top 25 want our opinion.  If I were able to get to more F&M games (aside from Live Stats) I'd certainly contribute the way others have.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2009, 02:06:53 pm
Even before then, it used to have actual posters with actual posts and information.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: terror 30 on January 14, 2009, 03:53:09 pm
Hello all,

Have been following this blog and the Centennial Conference for a long time and decided to get involved...

1/13 F & M at McDaniel:
First of all it was an overall sloppy game... both teams combined for 40 TO's. McDaniel was on top right from the tip. F & M shot 8 of 24 for the first half against a defense that allowed them to get VERY FEW clean shots at the basket. F & M got no open shots in the first half, seemed like every attempt was a struggle. F & M was not the team they were drawn up to be at all! Glenn Robinson was obviously frustrated with his team and the referees. McDaniel's offense was very patient, as they have been all year. They would get the shot clock under 15 almost every possession and got a lot of second chance points. And as people have said before they had no answer for McKay. He would get the ball in the post, back down his man, and shoot right overtop of the defense. There is no doubt that McDaniel had the experience and the defense in this game holding a team that was averaging 82 to 57 points. and there is no doubt that F & M has some room to improve and will be GOOD the next couple of years. 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 14, 2009, 07:20:13 pm
Results for 1/13

UniqueNewYork     5  -  0
D.B.Cooper          5  -  0
Gabriel                5  -  0
r.w.mcnickels       5  -  0
old ends              5  -  0
Reserved Seat      4  -  1
Brce4                  4  -  1
Diplomanic1          4  -  1

Overall
Old ends              21  -  4  (.840)
Diplomanic1          18  -  7  (.720)
UniqueNewYork     17  -  8  (.680)
D.B.Cooper           17  -  8  (.680)
Gabriel                 13  -  7  (.650)
Reserved Seat      16  -  9  (.640)
r.w.mcnickels        16  -  9  (.640)
Brce4                   14  - 11 (.560)
Dipsetdynasty        8   -  2
ne-ball                    7  -   3

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 14, 2009, 07:35:15 pm
Dave-- I am 69 1/2 years old Live in the Valleys and Hills of western Maryland.  Can not get cable or satellite, still have a modem because even my cell phone will not work,unless I drive to the top of the local rise. Getting to the games in this weather is out of the question, so therefore I resort to live stats which run about 5 to 10 min behind the game. I forward the stats for all to read...local articles when I find them. This group of people in this board are respectible of others on this board.. Some of them have given insite to how they feel about their teams, ranked how they think they will finish.

Overall I enjoy this board. I use to live in New England and the board sometimes do not post on div3 topics, at least here we do even though it may not inlighten those who need more knowledge to obtain insite to the Conference.

Also doing the pick is somthing I enjoy, keeps me out of my bride's, of 49 years, hair.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 14, 2009, 07:57:29 pm
picks for 1/15

F & M--- 12.8 scoring margin
Muhlenberg--.374 defensive field goal percentage
Gettysburg---15.82 assists ave per game
Ursinus----.745 free throw percentage
McDaniel---59.9 ave/game scoring defense

the pick's and insite all at the same time
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 14, 2009, 08:00:55 pm
The stats are in upto and including games on the 13th

SCORING OFFENSE
## Team                      G   W-L   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall. 12  11-1   962  80.2
 2.Washington..........   12   4-8   900  75.0

SCORING DEFENSE
## Team                  G   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.McDaniel............  12   719  59.9
 2.Gettysburg.......... 11   668  60.7

BLOCKED SHOTS
## Team                  G  Blocks  Avg/G
-----------------------------------------
 1.Muhlenberg.......... 11      55   5.00
 2.Dickinson...........    10      43   4.30

ASSISTS
## Team                  G  Assists  Avg/G
------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall. 12      199  16.58
 2.Gettysburg.......... 11      174  15.82

TURNOVER MARGIN
## Team                    G  TEAM   Avg  OPP   Avg Margin
--------------------------------------------------------
 1.Washington.......... 12   160  13.3  230  19.2  +5.83
 2.McDaniel............    12   165  13.8  212  17.7  +3.92

The rest here:http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confldrs.htm)

enjoy





Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 14, 2009, 08:31:40 pm
Old Ends,
Thanks for your efforts.  This board has become more active and interesting since you started the pick-ems.
I'm set to go to Haverford to see F&M tomorrow.
The players seem to be very resilient and should be able to come back after yesterday's loss.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 14, 2009, 08:32:03 pm
News from yesterdays games

Gettysburg: http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/articles/2009/01/14/sports/gettysburg_college/doc496dd83c7db28663303066.txt (http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/articles/2009/01/14/sports/gettysburg_college/doc496dd83c7db28663303066.txt)


McDaniel: http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/14/sports/asports11408.txt (http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/14/sports/asports11408.txt)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 14, 2009, 08:36:38 pm
Dress for it.. very cold although I guess it may be 1 or 2 degree's warmer towards Phila area. The route 30 trip.. Have fun and thanks
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: tucker1129 on January 14, 2009, 11:23:46 pm
I agree with you Terror, the game was pretty sloppy, but we have to give it to McDaniel for coming ready to play. McNally looked scared playing against the Terror's 6'8'' center.  McKay's presence in the post will definately hurt other teams if McDaniel utilizes their inside game, thus opening up the outside for the guards. The Terror outplayed the Dips defensively hands down. The green terror has progressed throughout the season thus far and I am definately looking forward to see how they match up against the rest of the "top" teams in the conference. I put my money on McDaniel for the conference. Its their time.

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ronk on January 14, 2009, 11:40:04 pm
Old ends,
   Feel free to use/adapt the RS for Centennial use. Sorry the weather/location inhibits your attendance at the games; check out MuleTV- I think Johns Hopkins is on tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 15, 2009, 11:11:45 am
1/15 picks:

Haverford
Johns Hopkins
Gettysburg
Ursinus
McDaniel

McDaniel should continue to roll with a win over WC, but the Sho'men might hang tough like they did in Allentown.

It will be interesting to see how F&M responds to its first loss.  The Fords always seem to play bigger (and better) than they look on paper.  They have home wins against Catholic and McDaniel, and dominated the Dips in last year's second meeting.  The Dips need to get off to a quick start offensively to win this game, and I don't think they will.

Good to see some posters from McDaniel...
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 15, 2009, 11:43:43 am
The stats are in upto and including games on the 13th

Old Ends,

I enjoy your input.  Keep it coming.  I look at the "Centennial Conference only" stats as being much more meaningful.  Several of the schools play "cupcake" preseason schedules to pad their W-L record while others play tough preseason schedules  to grow their teams.  Neither is right or wrong, just a difference in philosophy. Hence, the argument for the Centennial Conference only stats.






Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 15, 2009, 12:12:36 pm
Picks for Saturday 1/17/2009.  It's early but I am going with the home teams down the line

Muhlenberg     an upset in the dim gym
Gettysburg      Cousart is playing better but without Hilton to get
                        into Capkin's head and the lack of low post
                        presence makes a road win too difficult
McDaniel          Haverford is playing well, but a road win at McDaniel
                        will not happen
JHU                  No contest
Washington     Home court and the Shoremen are getting better
                                     
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 15, 2009, 02:20:57 pm


Folks -

Due to work obligations, I will not be traveling to the Main Line to see F&M at Haverford. However, weather-permitting, I intend to make the trek to Allentown to see the Dips play in the dark "Mule Barn".

Here are my selections for the 1/15 Pick-Ems as follows:

F&M @ Haverford:   F&M. (Dips will rebound from tough loss ahead of tough game against the Mules in Allentown).

Johns Hopkins @ Muhlenberg:   Johns Hopkins. (OK, I will be the one to go out on the limb on this one. A Mules loss tonight will spell even more trouble for the Dips on Saturday).

Swarthmore @ Gettysburg:  Gettysburg. (Nothing more need be said).

Ursinus @ Dickinson:   Dickinson.   (I am picking against the tide again here. I will take the Devils in a close one due to their home court and height advantages. I think a win here may be the Devils' last chance to get back into the mix for the conference tournament).

Washington @ McDaniel:   McDaniel.  (Should be close. I just think the Terror is the better team unless they have a letdown after their win against the Dips).

Well, there they are! Good luck to all. Travel safely! Regards.

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 15, 2009, 10:11:51 pm
Interesting results. Dickinson keeps hopes alive while the Ursinus continues to struggle. F&M wins another road test against troublesome Fords (who upended Terrors at home). Balanced scoring & minimal turnovers were good signs. Frosh Milligan played entire 40 minutes. Brooks & Selig seems to be recovering from their physical problems. Overall Dips are a year ahead of schedule. I would have taken a split on this 4 game punishing road trip at the start of the season, this is now guaranteed. If Dips can go into Memorial cave (Hall) & use Night-vision gear could they actually upset Mules in Allentown? So many Dip teams have run aground there to blemish a season. I think this was the site of the 1996 FF squads only regular season loss.
Most exciting of all is I may be able to get there this Saturday and see for myself if Dips are coming of age enough to win in the OK Corral.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 15, 2009, 10:23:18 pm
1/17 picks

Muhlenberg: disagree with Gabriel Mules are 2:1 favorites, Dips have slim chance but are the underdog
G-burg: not sure about this one as Bears have had the Bullets number for awhile
McDaniel: could be battle early on but Terrors will get even for loss on the Main Line
JHU: inevitable result
Washington: tough Sho'man losses may end at Devils expense
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 15, 2009, 11:36:27 pm
Picks for 1/17
Mules over F&M ( home court, Mules played tough in win tonight over JHU)
Ursinus (after tonight's loss, need a win and seem to get up for Gettysburg)
McDaniel ( too many athletes for a scrappy Haverford squad)
Hopkins(Swat continues to struggle)
Washington ( tough bunch will win at home although Dickinson had a big win tonight)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 16, 2009, 08:47:31 am
F&M had much better ball movement, but still need to work on protecting the ball more.  Too many turnovers or almost turnovers hurt the offense.  Selig played a great game, even though he got called for questionable fouls.  Tolliver continues to play well.  Brooks did look much healthier, but he did take himself out on occasion.  Hopefully, F&M and continue their winning ways at Muhlenberg.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Buck Lateral on January 16, 2009, 10:31:14 am
Sorry to go off-topic on you guys, but my son is looking to apply to a few Centennial Conference schools. He is interested in whether he can play both football and basketball. Does anyone know how much of an overlap exists between the end of the football season and beginning of basketball practice?

Many thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 16, 2009, 11:45:57 am
There are players(currently and in the past) that have played both football and basketball at F&M.
There is some overlap, especially if the football team gets any play-off games(NCAA or ECAC).
It seems to have more of an effect during the freshman year, since the incoming player is not familiar with the system being used by the basketball coach.
F&M, also, has open competition for every position every year.  Current starters will have to earn their spot again in the fall.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2009, 12:14:59 pm
Sorry to go off-topic on you guys, but my son is looking to apply to a few Centennial Conference schools. He is interested in whether he can play both football and basketball. Does anyone know how much of an overlap exists between the end of the football season and beginning of basketball practice?

Many thanks.

Basketball practice can begin on Oct. 15, according to Division III rules. Football season ends about four weeks later, give or take. He'll be very far behind the eight-ball as a freshman in basketball.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 16, 2009, 12:36:11 pm
Centennial schools aren't allowed to begin practice until a week later than that, October 22.  I think the conference went to this rule a few years ago, when the presidents wanted a shorter practice season (and in theory, more focus on academics).

http://www.centennial.org/manual/PDF/2009/143-Playing-Practice.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2009, 12:38:01 pm
If he's applying to Moravian or Juniata then the Oct. 15 date would still apply, I believe.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 16, 2009, 01:32:02 pm
Also, don't be surprised if the Centennial will revisit the practice and season start dates in the off-season. I know the Provident Pride Tournament is moving up a weekend and are waiting to see if the Centennial will allow an earlier start. That will allow the tournament to either play the first round games on a Wednesday or Thursday (can't remember) at other schools or be forced to play all the games on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday possibly at centrally located schools like they did the very first season. If the Centennial moves their season start dates up in November, they MAY move the practice start dates, too.

If the player is playing both football and basketball, he will have one advantage on the guys - conditioning. So what he will lose in terms of learning the system he will make up with in terms of not having to concentrate on getting into shape. That means more time focused on the details.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Buck Lateral on January 16, 2009, 02:21:49 pm
Thank you all for your input.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 16, 2009, 02:28:37 pm
Pick-ems

Franklin & Marshall(young, not bothered by the past)
Gettysburg(revenge)
McDaniel(too strong at home)
Johns Hopkins(Swarthmore still shows nothing)
Washington(Dickinson could win but haven't shown what kind of team they really are or could                           be)

Hopefully, I'll be at Muhlenberg.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 16, 2009, 05:03:47 pm
Results for 1/15

Reserved Seat     5  -  0
UniqueNewYork   5  -  0
Brce4                4  -  1
Gabriel              4  -  1
Old Ends            4  -  1
Diplomaniac1      4  -  1
D.B.Cooper         3  -  2
r.w.mcnickels      2  -  3

Overall

Old Ends            25  -  5 (.833)
UniqueNewYork   22  -  8 (.733)
Diplomaniac1      22  -  8 (.733)
Reserved Seat    21  -  9 (.700)
Gabriel               17  -  8 (.680)
D.B.Cooper        20 - 10 (.667)
Brce4                18 - 12 (.600)
r.w.mcnickels     18 - 12 (.600)
Dipsetdynasty     8  -  2
ne-ball                 7  -  3
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 16, 2009, 05:09:48 pm
Picks for 1/17/09 ( which most of you have sent--Thanks)

F & M       at  Muhlenberg
Ursinus    at  Gettysburg
Haverford at  McDaniel
Swarthmore  at John Hopkins
Dickinson  at Washington

By tip off tomorrow

again thanks for sending in advance

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 16, 2009, 05:16:36 pm
Picks for 1/17

F & M - Got their mojo back
Gettysburg - home court adv
McDaniel--on a roll
Hopkins-- to strong for the fords
Dickinson--- has had Washington's number for many years, except the last game

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 16, 2009, 05:54:41 pm
I saw an interesting stat as posted by Ronk in the Lankmark Conference. So I ask if I could us it at he gave me the OK.

It will be called the Ronk Standings.

Centennial Standings                                                                                     
  
F & M             5  -  1   
Gettysburg    5  -  1                                                         McDaniel        5  -  1                                
John Hopkins 4  -  2                                 
Muhlenberg    3  -  3                           
Ursinus           3  -  3            
Dickinson       2  -  4                           
Haverford      2  -  4                           
Washington    1  -  5                     
Swarthmore   0  -  6   

Ronk Standings
                                   HW       HL       AW
F  &  M                          2                     3
Gettysburg                   3                     2
McDaniel                       3                    2
John Hopkins                2                     2
Muhlenberg                  3           1
Ursinus                        3           1
Dickinson                     1           2         1
Haverford                    1           2         1
Washington                             2          2
Swarthmore                             3

HW--home wins
HL-- home loses
AW-away  wins

                     
Now you can see that F & M has played 6 games but the Ronk only shows 5 games. that is because the lost at McDaniel. It will make it easier to see the team records at home and away.

After this they will be ranked by home wins, for ronk. I put it this way so you could see the format.

Enjoy and thanks Ronk
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on January 16, 2009, 06:31:58 pm
Picks for 1/17/09

F & M  (Need Scovill and Baker to step up for Dips to win a tough road game)
Gettysburg (Bullets take advantage of road-weary and wounded Bears)
McDaniel (Green Terror are starting to roll)
John Hopkins (Swat is going to struggle to win a conference game)
Washington (Dickinson is feeling too good after their win over Ursinus, will not play well after a long drive to Chestertown)

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 16, 2009, 08:22:15 pm



Fellow Centennial Fans -

Here are my selections for the 1/17 Pick-Ems:

F&M @ Muhlenberg:   F&M. (Dips win a close one due to their athleticism with Brooks returning to form. This will tell us alot about the Dips and how good they can be if they are able to win in a place where they hardly ever win!)

Ursinus @ Gettysburg:   Gettysburg. (Due to Bear injuries, the Bullets may finally get the monkey off of their back. Also home court advantage.)

Haverford @ McDaniel:  McDaniel. (Still can't be sure about the Fords. Besides, the Terror is pretty good at home.)

Swarthmore @ Johns Hopkins:  Johns Hopins. (Another long season for Swat! Nothing more to say here except that I don't know how the Garnet's coach has kept his job all these years!)

Dickinson @ Washington:   Dickinson. (I am out on limb here again with the Devils. However, they may have too much height for the Shoremen. Perhaps, the Devils are finally turning the corner and realizing their potential?)

Enjoy the games! Good luck to all. Maybe those of us prognosticators who are going to the "Mule Barn" should meet and say hello to each other at halftime? Please advise.

Travel safely. Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 16, 2009, 09:18:55 pm
Overall Dips are a year ahead of schedule. I would have taken a split on this 4 game punishing road trip at the start of the season, this is now guaranteed. If Dips can go into Memorial cave (Hall) & use Night-vision gear could they actually upset Mules in Allentown? So many Dip teams have run aground there to blemish a season. I think this was the site of the 1996 FF squads only regular season loss.
Most exciting of all is I may be able to get there this Saturday and see for myself if Dips are coming of age enough to win in the OK Corral.

I also would have taken a split on this road trip before the season.  But when they jumped out to an 11-0 record, I wanted a 3-1 trip.  Unfortunately, I don't think the Mules will let it happen.

Memorial Hall has been one big landmine for F&M.  Aside from the '96 loss D.B. already mentioned (when the Dips were 19-0), the '95 team took a 25-0 record to Allentown for the CC title game and suffered a heartbreaking defeat.  So, two straight years the Mules upset highly ranked and undefeated F&M teams in the Dungeon.  This is not to mention the many losses suffered by unranked F&M teams in Allentown in recent years.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 16, 2009, 09:30:56 pm
1/17 picks:

Muhlenberg
Gettysburg
McDaniel
Johns Hopkins
Dickinson

I don't think Dickinson will get swept by Washington.  Gettysburg finally gets past the reeling Bears.

If the Dips had trouble with McKay in Westminster, how can they stop Barnes and Liddic?  I think James McNally will end up being one of F&M's best post men of all time, but his defense needs to improve.  If the Mules use the trapping defense they used toward the end of the game in Lancaster, it could be a long day for the Dips.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 16, 2009, 09:36:13 pm
Diplomaniac
     The Swarthmore Coach is a very good coach they are just undermanned year in and year out. While all of the conference schools have relatively high admissions criteria, Swat gets no help from admissions and loses recruits that other centennial schools can get. The question shouldn't be how he keeps his job but why would he want to given the obstacles to success. But he can coach, they run good stuff and always play hard.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 08:49:06 am
Brce4

I will agree with you about Swarthmore. All Centennial Conference teams in all sports are limited. I have meet with all of the Presidents,over the years, and even though they hear the coach's complaints, academics comes first. Then when they get a super student and super athlete, the money issue comes up. Grant money is drying up. Government loans are getting harder and harder and some schools are limiting those also.

But that is the way it is not only for Centennial, but most of all the DIV III Colleges and Univ. as Pat stated.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 10:05:22 am
A triple double for Remy Cousart against Swarthmore on the 13th.

here are the stats
HOME TEAM: Ursinus 7-5, 3-2 CC
                                      TOT-FG  3-PT              REBOUNDS
## Player Name            FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF  TP  A TO BLK S MIN
10 Keith Page.......... f      4-10    0-1        0-0     2   3    5    2   8   1  2    2  1  18
23 Matt Howell......... f      6-10   0-0         1-2    0    2    2   1  13   0  1   2  1  15
03 Remy Cousart........ g    6-8    2-3         0-1    1   10  11    1  14  11   2   0  2     24

Nice game
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 17, 2009, 10:31:16 am
Diplomaniac
     The Swarthmore Coach is a very good coach they are just undermanned year in and year out. While all of the conference schools have relatively high admissions criteria, Swat gets no help from admissions and loses recruits that other centennial schools can get. The question shouldn't be how he keeps his job but why would he want to given the obstacles to success. But he can coach, they run good stuff and always play hard.

BRCE4

I agree with you, however, Swarthmore should have been better last year with McCormick and the other talent they had.  I fault the coach for that.  Basketball is not on the front burner for most of these college Presidents and academic standards remain high-----as they should.  I mentioned before that Ursinus did not have a full time basketball coach until about three years ago.  They still do not have a full time paid assistant coach---- since Joe Rulewich moved on. 

As an indicator of where basketball stood in the sports hierarchy at Ursinus;  in 2003; the Bears had, arguably, their best team to date----including Luciano, Erfle, Stanton and McGarvey in the starting line up.  They won the conference undefeated and were ranked first in the region but could not host because the AD had failed to file the necessary "hosting" paperwork.  They had to play at Scranton in a very hostile environment and lost a very close game.  That is an indicator of the status of basketball, or sports in general, at some of these institutions.

Regarding the rules on first practices, it is my understanding that practice can start on October 15 but the first week must be without basketballs. Make sense?  Not to me but then, I prefer basketball with basketballs.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 17, 2009, 11:11:44 am
Gabriel
     Thanks for reminding us of the first week of practice is without basketballs. Can somebody please explain that concept to me. If you are going to be in the gym then what purpose is served by no basketballs. If you want to start a week later for academic reasons then start a week later but nothing is gained by this rather foolish rule.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 02:43:20 pm
At the half

F & M  32    Muhlenberg  30
Ursinus 33  Gettysburg 31

Other games have not started
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 03:27:51 pm
WOW --- F & M wins by 1
F & M 60    Muhlenberg 59
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 03:41:46 pm
Gettysburg 73    Ursinus 68

Powers 28pts  Dorsey 26 pts for Gettysburg
Noonan 22pts  Cousart 15 pts for Ursinus

Ursinus 20 turnovers

McDaniel 25  Haverford 18  at the half
John Hopkins 36  Swarthmore 23 at the half
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 03:47:53 pm
John Hopkins shooting 46% from the floor and 83% of 3pt trys
Swarthmore shooting 33% from the floor and 25% of 3pt trys

john Hopkins 11 pts off turnovers and 16 bench points

McDaniel shooting 39% from the floor and 33% of 3pt trys
Haverford shooting 29% from the floor and 0%(0-3) of 3pt trys

Neither team shooting well from the foul strip

half time stats
Dickinson at Washington starting at 4pm
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 04:51:34 pm
McDaniel 62   Haverford 51
18-37 on the floor 5 - 14 3pt shoots for McDaniel
18-48 on the floor 0-6 3pt shoots for Haverford



John Hopkins 60   Swarthmore 48
Hopkins  22-53 from the floor 7-16 3pt shots
Swarthmore 18-51 from the floor 3-16 3 pt shots


one game to go



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 04:57:54 pm
At the half

Washington 33  Dickinson 22

Washington shooting 40% from the floor 2-11 on 3pts
Dickinson shooting 31% from the floor 0-3 on 3pt

Dickinson has 2 players with 3 fouls and 1 with 2
Washington has 3 players with 2 fouls

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 17, 2009, 07:33:48 pm
Exciting game in Allentown
The Mules took a desperation last shot at the buzzer from about half-court and missed.
F&M left the court with a one-point victory, but any win in Allentown is a good one for F&M who has a history of losing a lot of games in the old gym.
The big men on both sides missed a lot of shots.
There were relatively few fouls called.(F&M 15-Muhlenberg 14)
McNally came up big when necessary.
Not many threes from F&M.
Big game at Mayser on Wednesday--Gettysburg.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 08:56:26 pm
results from 1/17/09 pick-ems

Reserved Seat     5  -  0
UniqueNewYork    5  -  0   good job  to both of you

Gabriel                 4  -  1
D.B.Cooper           4  -  1
Old Ends              4  -  1
Diplomaniac1        4  -  1
Brce4                  3  -  2
r.w.mcnickels       3  -  2

Overall
Old ends              29  -  6  (.828)
UniqueNewYork     27  -  8  (.771)
Reserved Seat      26  -  9  (.743)
Diplomaniac1        26  -  9  (.743)
Gabriel                 21  -  9  (.700)
D.B.Cooper           24  - 11 (.686)
Brce4                  21  - 14 (.600)
r.w.mcnickels         21 -  14 (.600)
dipsetdynasty          8  -  2
ne-ball                   7  -  3
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 09:07:28 pm
Ronk Standings
                      HW     HL    AW
McDaniel         4        0       2
Gettysburg      4        0       2
John Hopkins    3        0       2
F & M             2        0       4
Ursinus           3        1       0
Muhlenberg     3        2       0
Washington    1        2       2
Dickinson        1        2       1
Haverford       1        2       1
Swarthmore    0       3       0

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 17, 2009, 09:13:42 pm
Pick-ems for 1/21/09

Gettysburg               @   Franklin & Marshall
John Hopkins            @   McDaniel
Muhlenberg               @  Dickinson
Haverford                 @   Ursiinus
Swarthmore              @  Washington

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 17, 2009, 10:03:27 pm
Old Ends,
I think the Centennial Conference site has the F&M/Gettysburg game backwards.
According to F&M's schedule, the game is a home game for F&M.

Also, how does the ronk standings work?  Shouldn't an away win be worth more than a home win?  I assume a home loss is bad.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 17, 2009, 10:05:05 pm
1/21 picks:

F&M
McDaniel
Dickinson
Ursinus
Washington

Going with the home teams on Wednesday.  Gettysburg attempted 33 "threes" today against Ursinus, while F&M took just three against the Mules -- could be quite a contrast in style in the titanic battle at Mayser Center.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 17, 2009, 10:10:40 pm
Pick-ems for 1/21/09

Franklin & Marshall(This game should indicate if F&M is for real)
McDaniel(strong at home)
Dickinson(need to win at home, but could be closr
Ursinus(should have to beat Haverford at home
Washington(it would be a shocker if Swarthmore wins)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 17, 2009, 10:40:44 pm
Could the key clash in ?Lancaster on Wednesday be between 2 ranked teams? #26 Bullets won 3 big games & Dips went 2 and 1 on the road since the last Poll in three rather tough venues. I Saw the game in Allentown which can only be described as a brutal scrap. The Mules have one heck on a rookie in Liddic. He is very athletic & has a superb touch around the basket that you don't see in a freshman. If this is the level he typically plays at then the Mules have a bright future next year & maybe to a degree this year as they may take some of the contender's scalps.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 18, 2009, 11:01:38 am
1/21 picks

F&M (Gettysburg's record is good but they are not playing as a team)
McDaniel (don't think the Terror will lose at home this year)
Dickinson (they are a different team at home)
Ursinus (starting to get it together, hope it's not too late)
Washington (Garnet will not win a conference game this year)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: tucker1129 on January 18, 2009, 11:14:30 am
My picks for this week.

McDaniel
Gettysburg
Dickinson
Ursinus
Washington

I was at the McDaniel/Haverford game last night. Not an interesting game to watch. The refs were terrible on both ends of the court. Haverfords 1-3-1 defense hurt McDaniel's inside game but miguel jones connected with some 3's. 21 turnovers for McDaniel and 16 for Haverford. Guys were throwing the ball away left and right. Haverford is always a scrappy team but McDaniel was able to pull through. Looking forward to the big game Wed vs Hopkins.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 18, 2009, 11:53:08 am
Picks for 1/21
F&M (Should be a good game but F&M will be hard to beat at home)
McDaniel(May be the most athletic team in league and home court)
Mules(2 teams that need a conference win but Dickinson is really struggling)
Ursinus(remarkably, Ursinus needs a win)
Wash(improving Shoremen will win at home)
     As we near playoff time it should be very interesting. I have seen every team and on any given day anything can happen. The talent gap is close with the exception of Swat and a couple of pretty good teams won't even make the conference tourney.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 18, 2009, 01:32:30 pm
1/21 picks

G-burg (anybody's game)
McDaniel (Jays could upset)
Dickinson (Mules are on the road but Devils are imploding)
Ursinus (should win)
Washington (SWAT will upset Fords if anybody)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: ronk on January 18, 2009, 01:50:15 pm
Ronk Standings
                      HW     HL    AW
McDaniel         4        0       2
Gettysburg      4        0       2
John Hopkins    3        0       2
F & M             2        0       4
Ursinus           3        1       0
Muhlenberg     3        2       0
Washington    1        2       2
Dickinson        1        2       1
Haverford       1        2       1
Swarthmore    0       3       0




   Assuming this info is correct, than the RS would be

F&M                         4 - 0
McDaniels                2 - 0
Gettysburg              2 - 0
Johns Hopkins         2 - 0
Washington            2 - 2
Ursinus                    0 - 1
Dickinson                 1 - 2
Haverford                 1 - 2
Muhlenberg              0 - 2
Swarthmore              0 - 3 
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 18, 2009, 06:48:17 pm
Ronk
I did some changes but your changes are totaly incorrect.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 18, 2009, 06:57:23 pm
So of the news from yesterdays games

McDaniel: http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/18/sports/msports011809.txt (http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/18/sports/msports011809.txt)

F & M: http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232764 (http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232764)

Gettysburg: http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/articles/2009/01/17/sports/gettysburg_college/doc49707ad3e80aa411871829.txt (http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/articles/2009/01/17/sports/gettysburg_college/doc49707ad3e80aa411871829.txt)

enjoy

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 19, 2009, 04:58:39 pm
Looks like one of the major differences in game plans for F&M and Gettysburg is the percentage of shots taken from 3-point range.
Gettysburg takes about 33% of their shots from beyond the arc(239/660)
F&M takes just over 10% of their shots from 3-point range(92/803)
Gettysburg's big men have many more blocks.
This should be an interesting game between two different styles.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 19, 2009, 05:08:14 pm
Saturday 1/24/2009 picks

Dickinson---defeats JHU at home.  Could go either way
F&M---over McDaniel in a close one at F&M
Gettysburg---on the road over Haverford.  Too many weapons.
Washington---at home over Muhlenberg
Ursinus---on the road over Swat

Game of the week, F&M and McDaniel
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Gabriel on January 19, 2009, 05:16:12 pm
Monday, 1/26/2009 picks

McDaniel---over Dickinson on the road
Ursinus---over F&M on the road
Gettysburg---over JHU on the road
Washington---over Haverford at Washington
Muhlenberg---over Swat on the road

Dickinson could beat McDaniel if they all show up an play their "A" game

Ursinus over  F&M will depend on how well the Bears take care of the ball and block out on the boards.

Still waiting for Gettysburg to start playing as a team.  Dorsey and Capkin seem to have their own agenda.  Powers is a force and their best player.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 19, 2009, 05:46:12 pm
Game of the Week

F&M/Gettysburg--a long-time rivalry

F&M/McDaniel--game of the weekend
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 19, 2009, 07:21:40 pm
To all: Reserved Seat is correct... Gettysburg is at F & M. It is an away game for F & M on 2/18.

Our Conference made a type-o. I Know how that feels done it many of time.. So the Pick-em has been corrected.

Gabriel-- you are picking ahead,, I will let you change them pryor to tip off if you wish..

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 19, 2009, 07:33:44 pm
Stats will now only reflect Conference stats only.. Helps to make a better comparison vs overall stats

SCORING OFFENSE
## Team                       G   W-L   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------------
 1.Ursinus.............        7   3-4   529  75.6
 2.Franklin & Marshall.  7   6-1   517  73.9

SCORING DEFENSE
## Team                  G   Pts Avg/G
--------------------------------------
 1.Gettysburg..........  7   431  61.6
 2.McDaniel............    6   371  61.8

FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGES
## Team                      G     FG   FGA   Pct
---------------------------------------------
 1.Franklin & Marshall.  7    194   371  .523
 2.Ursinus.............        7    186   379  .491

BLOCKED SHOTS
## Team                    G  Blocks  Avg/G
-----------------------------------------
 1.McDaniel............     6      34   5.67
 2.Muhlenberg..........  7      38   5.43

ASSISTS
## Team                      G  Assists  Avg/G
------------------------------------------
 1.Gettysburg..........      7      107  15.29
 2.Franklin & Marshall.  7      106  15.14

STEALS
## Team                      G  Steals  Avg/G
-----------------------------------------
 1.McDaniel............       6      67  11.17
 2.Franklin & Marshall.  7      64   9.14

3-POINT FIELD GOALS MADE
## Team                   G   3FG  Avg/G
---------------------------------------
 1.Ursinus.............     7    50   7.14
 2.Gettysburg..........  7    38   5.43

SCORING
## Player-Team                    Cl  G   FG  3FG   FT  Pts Avg/G
------------------------------------------------------------
 1.John Noonan-UC...........         7   49   17   32  147  21.0
 2.Andrew Powers-GC......... SO  7   52    3   34  141  20.1
 3.James McNally-F&M........ SO   7   49    0   31  129  18.4
 4.Kizmahr Grell-DC......... SR      7   39   10   33  121  17.3
 5.Tim Kohlrus-WC........... SR     7   27    6   53  113  16.1
 6.Peter Barnes-MUHL........ JR   7   45    0   21  111  15.9
 7.Spencer Liddic-MUHL...... FR  7   42    2   22  108  15.4
 8.Alan Kines-WC............ JR      7   32   10   31  105  15.0
 9.Tom Leszczynski-DC....... SR  7   42    1   18  103  14.7
10.Danny Walker-SWAT...... JR  7   37    5   19   98  14.0

http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confonly.htm (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/men/2009stats/confonly.htm)

enjoy









Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 19, 2009, 07:38:41 pm
Picks for 1/21

F & M  home team adv
John Hopkins-- just a feeling
Muhlenberg-- another feeling, Dickinson just not getting it done
Ursinus-next question
Washington-same answer

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 19, 2009, 07:51:40 pm
Gettysburg(22) versus Franklin and Marshall(24) --according to the new rankings.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 19, 2009, 07:55:57 pm
Tucker1129 welcome to the board..

2 teams in the top 25--nice.. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 20, 2009, 08:20:07 pm
Congrats to Andrew Powers Gettysburg as the Conference player of the week:

The rest can b viewed here: http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_119.pdf (http://www.centennial.org/basketball/2009/MBK_119.pdf)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on January 21, 2009, 11:03:45 am
Pick-ems for 1/21/09

Franklin & Marshall (Let's give Chris Rogers some credit when Dips pull out big win)
McDaniel (Green Terror's inside game too much for the Blue Jays)
Muhlenberg  (Red Devils are going to start collapsing down the stretch)
Ursiinus (Bears will get the victory at home)
Washington (Still can't see Swat winning a conference game)

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 21, 2009, 12:19:40 pm


Folks -

Here are my selections for the 1/21 Pick-Ems:

Gettysburg @ F&M:   F&M. (Should be a really close game and very important one still early in Centennial Conference play. I am making this choice with my heart and giving the edge to the Dips at home.)

Johns Hopkins @ McDaniel:   McDaniel.   (I think the Terror have too much speed, athleticism, and physicality for the Jays at home. Will probably be a close game.)

Muhelnberg @ Dickinson:   Dickinson.  (I am going against the flow with this pick. It is probably the last chance for an under-performing Devils squad to get back into the thick of things in the Conference. Not to mention the fact that the Mules always do not play as well on the road. Should be a very physical inside game - Barnes and Liddic vs. Leczinski.)

Ursinus @ Haverford:   Ursinus.  (I still don't know what to make of these two squads. Bears probably have better talent and depth than the Fords. They will also have the home court advantage. I don't expect a wide margin of victory.)

Swarthmore @ Washington:   Washington.    (Shoremen at home should overwhelm the Garnet who may go winless in the Conference).

I can't travel to Mayser Center tonight due to job. I expect it will be a large crowd to see this game. Enjoy the games. Good luck to all! Regards,

Eric



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 21, 2009, 12:25:31 pm


Folks -

Welcome aboard to our new fellow prognosticator - Tucker1129! Enjoy the contest and comradery. We are looking forward to hearing your insights and opinions.

Does anyone know what happened to our other two early-season pickers, Dipsetdynasty and ne-ball?

Bring on the games! Regards,

Eric

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 21, 2009, 02:33:59 pm
F&M is hoping for a big crowd tonight.

This is the hype on the F&M site:

There are basketball games, and then there are basketball games that are circled on your calendar year-in and year-out. F&M vs. Gettysburg falls under the latter.

I'll be in my seat.
Too bad you can't make it, Eric.

It will be interesting to see how F&M handles Gettysburg's bombing it away from outside.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 21, 2009, 07:02:23 pm
The only thing I can think is that ne-ball and Dipsetdynasty are students who may have just gotten back to class this week. let's hope that is the case

Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 21, 2009, 07:21:21 pm
I know this has nothing to do with DIV III, but I could not let it go.
Coaches on all levels and sports have to deal with enough. Read the attached and ask your self would you be able to handle it.

http://www.courant.com/sports/other/hc-doyoubelieve0121.artjan21,0,6008937.story (http://www.courant.com/sports/other/hc-doyoubelieve0121.artjan21,0,6008937.story)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 21, 2009, 09:51:17 pm
Very entertaining game at F&M.
The score was 68-66(Gettysburg) with 20 seconds to go.  F&M was unable to get back in the game after that.  Having to foul and shoot threes, the final score ended up 73-66.
The game was well officiated despite the whining of an obnoxious fan from Gettysburg.(Gettysburg shot 16-19 from the line and F&M 4-7)  I don't know what he was whining about.  The officials did the nice job of calling the game fairly.  Gettysburg got six of their foul shots in the last 20 seconds.
Otherwise the crowd was well controlled and enjoyed the play of both teams.
Powers played an excellent game and is definitely the key player on their team. 
Gettysburg started 4 seniors, and F&M had none starting.
From three range Gettysburg was 9 for 19(close to their normal pace).  F&M was 4 for 11 including  about  4 desperation shots in the last 20 seconds.
F&M protected the ball much better than usual.  Milligan had only a few lapses protecting the game and penetrated well with the ball.
Brooks' athletic presence was all over the court.

F&M started strong and built a 28-18 before Gettysburg went on a 13-0 run.  Gettysburg was ahead by one at the half.
Hopefully the next game at Gettysburg will be played as well.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 22, 2009, 08:13:46 pm
Results for 1/21

Tucker1129          4  -  1
Brce4                  4  -  1
D.B.Cooper          4  -  1
UniqueNewYork    4  -  1
r.w.mcnickels       3  -  2
Reserved Seat     3  -  2
Gabriel                3  -  2
Old Ends             3  -  2
Diplomaniac1       3  -  2

Overall

Old ends            32  -  8  (.800)
UniqueNewYork   31  -  9  (.775)
Reserved Seat    29  - 11 (.725)
Diplomaniac1      29  - 11 (.725)
D.B.Cooper         28  - 12 (.700)
Brce4                25  - 15 (.625)
r.w.mcnickels      24  - 16 (.600)
Gabriel               24  - 16 (.600)
Tucker1129           4  -  1
Dipsetdynasty       8  -  2
ne-ball                  7  -  3
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 22, 2009, 08:18:22 pm
Pick-em for 1/24

Gettysburg      at   Haverford
McDaniel          at  F & M
John Hopkins   at  Dickinson
Muhlenberg     at  Washington
Ursinus            at  Swarthmore

need by tip off Saturday

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 22, 2009, 08:33:08 pm
Nice article about the McDaniel team

http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/22/sports/asports012209.txt (http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2009/01/22/sports/asports012209.txt)

For those of you not in the Lancaster area and article about last night's game

http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232911 (http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/232911)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 22, 2009, 09:01:14 pm
See how your team ranks in the nation and your teams players

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary (http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary)

enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 22, 2009, 10:13:31 pm
Pick-em for 1/24

Gettysburg (solid team)
F & M(shouldn't get mugged twice)
John Hopkins(still haven't figured out Dickinson-they're killing my picks)
Washington(play tough at home)
Ursinus(more than enough to overwhelm Swarthmore)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: D.B. Cooper on January 22, 2009, 10:37:08 pm
1/24 picks

G-burg (Fords could keep it respectable)
F&M (Depends how its officiated, home shouldn't hurt)
Dickinson (due to hold serve in Carlisle)
Washington (Sho'man hold off Mules, Liddic & Barnes get in foul trouble)
Ursinus (tough year to be a Garnet fan, could be close for a half)


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: BRCE4 on January 23, 2009, 07:59:43 am
Picks for 1/24
Gettysburg( Haverford scrappy and at home but Gettysburg on a roll)
F&M ( If McDaniel wins this one, they are for real as a possible champ)
Dickinson (Pretty good 2-6 team I think they win this one)
Mules ( Can they win 2 in a row on the road)
Ursinus (Swat is undermanned this year)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: diplomaniac1 on January 23, 2009, 04:50:44 pm

Folks -

Here are my selections for the 1/24 pick-ems tomorrow:

Gettysburg @ Haverford:   Gettysburg. (The Bullets have more talent than the Fords. THey should win on the road unless they have a huge letdown after Wednesday night's big game at Mayser Center).

McDaniel @ F&M:   F&M. (Dips should win at home as payback for their first loss in Westminster. Now that the students are back, Mayser Center is a big advantage. A healthy Brooks with his quickness and athleticism should make a big difference).

Johns Hopkins @ Dickinson:   Johns Hopkins. (Will the real Red Devils team ever arrive? Although Kline is a tough place to play, I will take the road team here).

Muhlenberg @ Washington:   Washington. (A tough one to pick. Cain Center is a tough place to play. So, give the edge to home team over a perrenially weak road team).

Ursinus @ Swarthmore:   Ursinus.  (The long season in Collegeville continues without a win in sight!).

I plan to be at Mayser for the clash between the Dips and the Terror. Enjoy
the games. Goos luck to all! Regards,

Eric


Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: UniqueNewYork on January 23, 2009, 09:58:24 pm
Pick-em for 1/24

Gettysburg (Bullets are rolling after big win over Dips)
McDaniel (Home court is not enough to make up for youthful Dips)
Dickinson (Leszcynski needs to actually show up, very disappointed in the Devils this year)
Washington (Don't have a good read on either team)
Ursinus (Swat doesn't stand a chance now with Walker out for 2 weeks)
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 24, 2009, 08:22:32 am
Picks for 1/24

Gettysburg
McDaniel
John Hopkins
Washington
Ursinus



Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: r.w. mcnickels on January 24, 2009, 11:34:47 am
1/24 picks:

Gettysburg
F&M
Dickinson
Muhlenberg
Ursinus

Not sure about picking the Dips over the Terror -- could be a low-scoring game that comes down to a defensive stop (or a big shot) in the last minute.  I think the Mules will start making a run toward the playoffs with a second straight road win.  And Dickinson will continue its Jekyll and Hyde act with a victory over Hopkins, a team they almost beat in Baltimore.
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 24, 2009, 04:31:15 pm
If anyone can say upset, it is taking place at Haverford..
With 2 min to go Haverford up 44-37

Gettysburg has 27 turnovers and shooting 36.4% from the floor
unreal
Title: Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
Post by: old ends on January 24, 2009, 04:48:52 pm
Ursinus won 79 - 63

                         UC                 SWAT
Field goals     34-64 53.1%    22-56 39.3%
3-point FGs      6-17 35.3%    7-19 36.8%
Free throws     5-10 50.0%   12-17 70.6%
Reb       (O-D)  40 (10-30)     24 (4-20)
Turnovers        13                  11

Ursinus (8-7, 4-4 CC) 
Player                 FG    3FG&#