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Title: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 29, 2012, 06:59:21 pm
The 2012 Midwest Regionals will be held at Prucha Field in Whitewater, WI.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on April 29, 2012, 11:31:51 pm
I think it will be an eight-team regional this year.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: MIACLUV on April 30, 2012, 10:52:27 am
Have to agree about the 8 team, not really because there is a large number of deserving candidates in the midwest, but a logistical convenience for the central teams being outside the 500 mile radious of the Tennessee regional.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on April 30, 2012, 11:07:03 am
Have to agree about the 8 team, not really because there is a large number of deserving candidates in the midwest, but a logistical convenience for the central teams being outside the 500 mile radious of the Tennessee regional.

Agree... I see possibly two (or three)central teams coming in... the IIAC winner(Central?), MWC winner (St. Norbert?), and maybe a CCIW team or two (North Park and/or IWU... though IWU is closer to the Central regional than the others).

I also see the possibility of either St. Thomas or La Crosse flying to the west coast as a #1/#2 seed.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on April 30, 2012, 02:09:00 pm
Have to agree about the 8 team, not really because there is a large number of deserving candidates in the midwest, but a logistical convenience for the central teams being outside the 500 mile radious of the Tennessee regional.

I also see the possibility of either St. Thomas or La Crosse flying to the west coast as a #1/#2 seed.

Not knowing much about the west region... could you please explain why you think this is a possibility?  Do they not have a solid #1 seed in their region?

As far as shipping someone there, how would the committee decide who?  Is there criteria for that?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on April 30, 2012, 02:22:06 pm
The west lost Chapman as a Pool B once they joined the SCIAC(one less bid from in-region). I am not certain that the west will have six in-region teams qualify for the NCAA tourney. Hence, my guess that a team from the Midwest/Central will be flown in.

WEST:
SCIAC-LaVerne (No Pool C)
NWC- Whitworth (no Pool C)
ASC- Winner plus one possible Pool C
SCAC winner provided it is from the West Division (East division plays in the South region)

That is only 5 teams and at least 6 will play in the west.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: dahlby on April 30, 2012, 04:00:16 pm
BigPoppa...I am afraid that I am going to have to agree with you. No Linfield or Chapman just breaks my heart. It is going to be a long summer for me. I don't even know if I will have the energy to watch the playoffs, although I do wish ULV and Whitworth the best of luck. I hope that they can carry the torch deep into the playoffs.

What's is that "oldie but goodie"...it's going to be a long lonely summer.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Babe Truth on April 30, 2012, 10:15:19 pm
Have to agree about the 8 team, not really because there is a large number of deserving candidates in the midwest, but a logistical convenience for the central teams being outside the 500 mile radious of the Tennessee regional.

Agree... I see possibly two (or three)central teams coming in... the IIAC winner(Central?), MWC winner (St. Norbert?), and maybe a CCIW team or two (North Park and/or IWU... though IWU is closer to the Central regional than the others).

I also see the possibility of either St. Thomas or La Crosse flying to the west coast as a #1/#2 seed.

BigPoppa, or anyone else here with insight,
You have a ton more experience on this, so please explain. How on earth can a D3 team "rewarded" with a #1 or #2 seed be flown across the country to play?  Have they not earned the right to play closer to home where their families, friends and fans can have a chance to see them?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2012, 10:49:41 pm
I think it will be an eight-team regional this year.
Gonna go out onto the limb here...

Let's look at the concentration of teams which the NCAA needs to send to regionals by bus and not fly, I think that the NCAA puts the 6-team regionals at:

West  -- McMinnville --  with room for two (non-West Region) teams from the Central Time Zone to be flown to Oregon, especially if the West only has one Pool C bid.
Central -- Memphis --  BSC moves into this region and Pool B Wash U. plus SLIAC, CCIW and IIAC and a Pool C.
South -- CNU      --   Southernmost of the regionals in the Eastern time zone (CAC, ODAC, USASouth).
Midwest -- Prucha  --  I have trouble finding 8, especially with 2 apparent vacancies in the West, even moving the Midwest Conference into Prucha.

Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2012, 11:33:07 pm
Have to agree about the 8 team, not really because there is a large number of deserving candidates in the midwest, but a logistical convenience for the central teams being outside the 500 mile radious of the Tennessee regional.

Agree... I see possibly two (or three)central teams coming in... the IIAC winner(Central?), MWC winner (St. Norbert?), and maybe a CCIW team or two (North Park and/or IWU... though IWU is closer to the Central regional than the others).

I also see the possibility of either St. Thomas or La Crosse flying to the west coast as a #1/#2 seed.

BigPoppa, or anyone else here with insight,
You have a ton more experience on this, so please explain. How on earth can a D3 team "rewarded" with a #1 or #2 seed be flown across the country to play?  Have they not earned the right to play closer to home where their families, friends and fans can have a chance to see them?

Historically it's been the lower seeds who move, in almost every sport. (Football, with Mount Union's regular "moves" to the "East" bracket, is more of a bookkeeping thing since the top seed plays all its games at home.)
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 01, 2012, 02:02:21 am
I think it will be an eight-team regional this year.
Gonna go out onto the limb here...

Let's look at the concentration of teams which the NCAA needs to send to regionals by bus and not fly, I think that the NCAA puts the 6-team regionals at:

West  -- McMinnville --  with room for two (non-West Region) teams from the Central Time Zone to be flown to Oregon, especially if the West only has one Pool C bid.
Central -- Memphis --  BSC moves into this region and Pool B Wash U. plus SLIAC, CCIW and IIAC and a Pool C.
South -- CNU      --   Southernmost of the regionals in the Eastern time zone (CAC, ODAC, USASouth).
Midwest -- Prucha  -- I have trouble finding 8, especially with 2 apparent vacancies in the West, even moving the Midwest Conference into Prucha.
All IIAC teams and most CCIW teams would require a flight to Millington.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 01, 2012, 02:28:08 am
I think it will be an eight-team regional this year.
Gonna go out onto the limb here...

Let's look at the concentration of teams which the NCAA needs to send to regionals by bus and not fly, I think that the NCAA puts the 6-team regionals at:

West  -- McMinnville --  with room for two (non-West Region) teams from the Central Time Zone to be flown to Oregon, especially if the West only has one Pool C bid.
Central -- Memphis --  BSC moves into this region and Pool B Wash U. plus SLIAC, CCIW and IIAC and a Pool C.
South -- CNU      --   Southernmost of the regionals in the Eastern time zone (CAC, ODAC, USASouth).
Midwest -- Prucha  -- I have trouble finding 8, especially with 2 apparent vacancies in the West, even moving the Midwest Conference into Prucha.
All IIAC teams and most CCIW teams would require a flight to Millington.
Thanks.

1) BSC
2) SLIAC
3) Wash U as a Pool B/C.

Who are #4- #6 in that bracket?

CCIW -- IWU is 453 miles from Rhodes. Augustana is 549 miles.

HCAC -- Rose-Hulman is 402 miles. Anderson is 514. Franklin is 471 miles.
Pres AC -- Thomas More, currently 2nd on the Pres AC is 469 miles.
IIAC -- Central is 579 miles from Rhodes. Coe is 557 miles. Luther is 666 miles.
NCAC -- DePauw is 437 miles.

There may be a plane flight to Millington, regardless!  I think that Millington may get filled first.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 01, 2012, 10:10:30 am
Have to agree about the 8 team, not really because there is a large number of deserving candidates in the midwest, but a logistical convenience for the central teams being outside the 500 mile radious of the Tennessee regional.

Agree... I see possibly two (or three)central teams coming in... the IIAC winner(Central?), MWC winner (St. Norbert?), and maybe a CCIW team or two (North Park and/or IWU... though IWU is closer to the Central regional than the others).

I also see the possibility of either St. Thomas or La Crosse flying to the west coast as a #1/#2 seed.

BigPoppa, or anyone else here with insight,
You have a ton more experience on this, so please explain. How on earth can a D3 team "rewarded" with a #1 or #2 seed be flown across the country to play?  Have they not earned the right to play closer to home where their families, friends and fans can have a chance to see them?

Personally, I'd see moving to the west as a #2 (La Crosse?) as more of a reward than trying to plow through St. Thomas, Stevens Point, St. Scholastica, Concordia-Chicago, etc... and I know the "west-coasters" will hammer me on this, but the west is down this year compared to season's past.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on May 01, 2012, 10:37:50 am
The west lost Chapman as a Pool B once they joined the SCIAC(one less bid from in-region). I am not certain that the west will have six in-region teams qualify for the NCAA tourney. Hence, my guess that a team from the Midwest/Central will be flown in.
Update 5/1/2012 6 team West Regional from CDD3

WEST Regional:
1) SCIAC-LaVerne Pool A (No Pool C)
2) NWC- Whitworth Pool A (No Pool C)
3) ASC- Winner Pool A plus
4) ASC - one possible Pool C
5) SCAC - Trinity(TX) is a possible Pool C
6) Pool C ??? from outside the West Region

Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2012, 11:17:55 am
WHO flies into the west is the big question right now. I still see it as a Midwest or Central team. Moving the Central to Tennessee means that many of the usual suspects in the Central will have to be flown to the Central or be shipped into the Midwest, which is oddly closer than the "HOME" regional. Either the Central moves one of its qualifiers (CCIW, IIAC, MWC) to the West or the Medwest will be overloaded with teams for its regional... which necessitates a moving of one of the Midwest teams west to Oregon. Who that may be is still being debated. Could Stevens Point grab a Pool C and fly west? How about North Park if they earn the CCIW's Pool A (as they seem to be nowhere in the regional rankings as of now).

Potential Midwest participants:
MIAC Pool A: St. Thomas
WIAC Pool A: LAX
NathCon Pool A: Concordia-Chicago/Aurora
UMAC Pool A: St. Scholastica
MWC Pool A: St. Norbert
IIAC Pool A: Central
CCIW Pool A: North Park/IWU/Augustana
Independent: University of Chicago
Pool C possibilities: Stevens Point(WIAC), Concordia-Chicago/Aurora (NathCon… Bubble Pool C teams?), North Park/IWU/Augustana(CCIW… I think the CCIW gets one Pool C)

That is 8 Pool A teams that could land in Whitewater, not counting any of the Pool C possibilities. Somebody (likely, more than one) is flying somewhere unless they land in the Mid-east. It will be interesting to see this play out if all get bids.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on May 02, 2012, 02:57:26 pm
WHO flies into the west is the big question right now. I still see it as a Midwest or Central team. Moving the Central to Tennessee means that many of the usual suspects in the Central will have to be flown to the Central or be shipped into the Midwest, which is oddly closer than the "HOME" regional. Either the Central moves one of its qualifiers (CCIW, IIAC, MWC) to the West or the Medwest will be overloaded with teams for its regional... which necessitates a moving of one of the Midwest teams west to Oregon. Who that may be is still being debated. Could Stevens Point grab a Pool C and fly west? How about North Park if they earn the CCIW's Pool A (as they seem to be nowhere in the regional rankings as of now).

Potential Midwest participants:
MIAC Pool A: St. Thomas
WIAC Pool A: LAX
NathCon Pool A: Concordia-Chicago/Aurora
UMAC Pool A: St. Scholastica
MWC Pool A: St. Norbert
IIAC Pool A: Central
CCIW Pool A: North Park/IWU/Augustana
Independent: University of Chicago
Pool C possibilities: Stevens Point(WIAC), Concordia-Chicago/Aurora (NathCon… Bubble Pool C teams?), North Park/IWU/Augustana(CCIW… I think the CCIW gets one Pool C)

That is 8 Pool A teams that could land in Whitewater, not counting any of the Pool C possibilities. Somebody (likely, more than one) is flying somewhere unless they land in the Mid-east. It will be interesting to see this play out if all get bids.

Looking at this, and then thinking about flights, and assuming the NCAA wants to save money where it can... it might make the most sense to fly Central teams to the Central Regional.  Because Memphis is a hub airport, flights to and from there are generally some of the cheapest you can get.  Id imagine trying to fly a team to McMinnville, Oregon would be a more expensive venture.  Taking a team like Central and flying them from Des Moines to the central regional might save a few bucks.

It's hard to know what they consider though and this is really hard to make a guess on.

Also, BigPoppa, is Whitewater completely off your radar for a Pool C?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: rob on May 02, 2012, 03:20:18 pm
Have to agree about the 8 team, not really because there is a large number of deserving candidates in the midwest, but a logistical convenience for the central teams being outside the 500 mile radious of the Tennessee regional.

Agree... I see possibly two (or three)central teams coming in... the IIAC winner(Central?), MWC winner (St. Norbert?), and maybe a CCIW team or two (North Park and/or IWU... though IWU is closer to the Central regional than the others).

I also see the possibility of either St. Thomas or La Crosse flying to the west coast as a #1/#2 seed.

BigPoppa, or anyone else here with insight,
You have a ton more experience on this, so please explain. How on earth can a D3 team "rewarded" with a #1 or #2 seed be flown across the country to play?  Have they not earned the right to play closer to home where their families, friends and fans can have a chance to see them?
A good point, but even better, a great name "Babe Truth".
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 02, 2012, 03:33:06 pm
WHO flies into the west is the big question right now. I still see it as a Midwest or Central team. Moving the Central to Tennessee means that many of the usual suspects in the Central will have to be flown to the Central or be shipped into the Midwest, which is oddly closer than the "HOME" regional. Either the Central moves one of its qualifiers (CCIW, IIAC, MWC) to the West or the Medwest will be overloaded with teams for its regional... which necessitates a moving of one of the Midwest teams west to Oregon. Who that may be is still being debated. Could Stevens Point grab a Pool C and fly west? How about North Park if they earn the CCIW's Pool A (as they seem to be nowhere in the regional rankings as of now).

Potential Midwest participants:
MIAC Pool A: St. Thomas
WIAC Pool A: LAX
NathCon Pool A: Concordia-Chicago/Aurora
UMAC Pool A: St. Scholastica
MWC Pool A: St. Norbert
IIAC Pool A: Central
CCIW Pool A: North Park/IWU/Augustana
Independent: University of Chicago
Pool C possibilities: Stevens Point(WIAC), Concordia-Chicago/Aurora (NathCon… Bubble Pool C teams?), North Park/IWU/Augustana(CCIW… I think the CCIW gets one Pool C)

That is 8 Pool A teams that could land in Whitewater, not counting any of the Pool C possibilities. Somebody (likely, more than one) is flying somewhere unless they land in the Mid-east. It will be interesting to see this play out if all get bids.

Looking at this, and then thinking about flights, and assuming the NCAA wants to save money where it can... it might make the most sense to fly Central teams to the Central Regional.  Because Memphis is a hub airport, flights to and from there are generally some of the cheapest you can get.  Id imagine trying to fly a team to McMinnville, Oregon would be a more expensive venture.  Taking a team like Central and flying them from Des Moines to the central regional might save a few bucks.

It's hard to know what they consider though and this is really hard to make a guess on.

Also, BigPoppa, is Whitewater completely off your radar for a Pool C?

I have no idea of what to think of Whitewater anymore. They are currently 6-8 vs regionally ranked opponents which is solid and they have a nice SoS, but I just feel they may not get a shot this year because of their 13 losses...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 02, 2012, 03:58:42 pm
Biggio,

I am not sure how much the NCAA actually looks into the individual costs when making a decision, but it is in fact very expensive to fly into Memphis. For some reason the competition flying there is limited so the costs are high. Many of us who flew into the SCAC tournament in Millington flew into Littlerock and drove. We saved about ½ the cost doing this. 

I am not really not sure how this is all handled, but thought I would make the point, and also for any fans traveling it is something to consider.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Just Bill on May 02, 2012, 04:25:29 pm
Shorts Travel through their contract with the NCAA makes all the air transportation arrangements for NCAA Championship events. Essentially the team calls, gives them a travel list and takes whatever route Shorts gives them.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: augie_superfan on May 02, 2012, 11:44:17 pm
Don't the baseball teams usually end up taking a chartered flight with maybe 2 teams sharing a flight if possible.  Even if there were cheap tickets from one destination to another, have you ever tried getting 30 some tickets on 2 days notice?  Probably not cheap when trying to do that.

Easily could charter 2-3 teams on a flight out of the chicago area to the central regional and leave the midwest mostly intact
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Just Bill on May 03, 2012, 12:13:40 pm
Don't the baseball teams usually end up taking a chartered flight with maybe 2 teams sharing a flight if possible.  Even if there were cheap tickets from one destination to another, have you ever tried getting 30 some tickets on 2 days notice?  Probably not cheap when trying to do that.

Easily could charter 2-3 teams on a flight out of the chicago area to the central regional and leave the midwest mostly intact
Only if that's the cheaper option and it's logistically possible. It has happened, but it's not the norm. The NCAA pays the bill so they get to make arrangements how they see fit. Schools have little say in it. Teams often get split up on multiple flights or have to depart from or connect through two different cities. Just the way it is.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2012, 03:09:32 pm
Updated Rankings are up...

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3/regional_rankings

Appears the results on Monday's Stevens Point vs Whitewater DH were not factored into the rankings...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on May 03, 2012, 04:25:35 pm
Appears the results on Monday's Stevens Point vs Whitewater DH were not factored into the rankings...

Do you say that because the records are wrong or because you think the rankings should be different based on that DH?  I believe the games considered are only through Sunday the 29th.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 03, 2012, 04:27:57 pm
Appears the results on Monday's Stevens Point vs Whitewater DH were not factored into the rankings...
Do you say that because the records are wrong or because you think the rankings should be different based on that DH?  I believe the games considered are only through Sunday the 29th.
Was going off of the records listed for Stevens Point...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: bluemoon on May 06, 2012, 08:19:09 pm
   Can you guys help me? Do Stevens Point and Whitewater both need to win the conference tourney to get in the regional? Are they both out of the running for a "Pool C" bid?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 06, 2012, 09:32:33 pm
I think Point can get in provided LAX wins it. I think Whitewater needs to win it to get in. LAX is a lock. Point gets a Pool C provided Whitewater does not win it. I just don't see three WIAC bids this year.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2012, 11:10:26 am
What if Point is eliminated and WHITEWATER loses to LaCrosse in the final?  Season records would be relatively comparable and WHITEWATER would have beaten Point four out of five.   
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: ShineTime on May 07, 2012, 10:25:56 pm
I don't see how Whitewater wouldn't be in front of Point for Pool C.  They took 2nd place in WIAC and beat Point 3 out of 4 at end of the year.  Point finished the season 3-5 Whitewater 7-1 that has to be a huge factor in who to pick between Point and Oshkosh.  I guess though if Point finishes 2nd in WIAC tourney ahead of Whitewater they would have better overall record.  I love La Crosse this year and what they've done but I just don't see any way Whitewater or Point don't take the conference tourney.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 07, 2012, 11:15:37 pm
I don't see how Whitewater wouldn't be in front of Point for Pool C.  They took 2nd place in WIAC and beat Point 3 out of 4 at end of the year.  Point finished the season 3-5 Whitewater 7-1 that has to be a huge factor in who to pick between Point and Oshkosh.  I guess though if Point finishes 2nd in WIAC tourney ahead of Whitewater they would have better overall record.  I love La Crosse this year and what they've done but I just don't see any way Whitewater or Point don't take the conference tourney.
Assume you meant Point and Whitewater?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Just Bill on May 08, 2012, 12:17:13 pm
Performance at the end of the season is not a criteria in Division III. The Game 1 counts the same as Game 40 (theoretically anyway). The head-to-head pairing is what may put UWW in front UWSP "at the table" when Pool C's are being discussed.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on May 13, 2012, 09:27:13 am
So how will the last regional ranking shake out?  Here is my guess...

1. LAX
2. St. Thomas
3. Whitewater
4. CSS
5. Aurora
6. Conc Ill
7.  St. Johns
8.  Stevens Point

I could see LAX and STU being flipped if the Tommies come back and win their tourney today.  How far does St. Johns climb if they win the MIAC tourney?

There is going to be some interesting match-ups at the regional... will be curious to see how it lines up if it does become an 8 team event. 
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 13, 2012, 09:37:53 am
Even if the Midwest is an 8-team regional, I doubt that 8 teams from the Midwest make it. Look for the central to sen a team or two... IWU, North Park or Coe... Maybe St. Norbert. NPU should head to TN but logistically, IWU could bus there. NCAA should reward NpU by keeping them in home region.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 13, 2012, 10:51:28 am
Midwest regional teams?:

St Thomas
St Scholastica
La Crosse
Whitewater
St. Norbert(from central)
Coe (from central)
Aurora
IWU (from central)?
St Johns (if they the MIAC today)
Either Chicago, NPU, or CUC?

Tons of NCAA flexibility in this region.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 13, 2012, 11:34:06 am
Midwest regional teams?:

St Thomas
St Scholastica
La Crosse
Whitewater
St. Norbert(from central)
Coe (from central)
Aurora
IWU (from central)?
St Johns (if they the MIAC today)
Either Chicago, NPU, or CUC?

Tons of NCAA flexibility in this region.
If St. Thomas comes back and wins a pair today, could they or La Crosse be sent out West as a #1 seed?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 13, 2012, 11:46:00 am
Midwest regional teams?:

St Thomas
St Scholastica
La Crosse
Whitewater
St. Norbert(from central)
Coe (from central)
Aurora
IWU (from central)?
St Johns (if they the MIAC today)
Either Chicago, NPU, or CUC?

Tons of NCAA flexibility in this region.
If St. Thomas comes back and wins a pair today, could they or La Crosse be sent out West as a #1 seed?
That has crossed my mind...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 13, 2012, 02:01:03 pm
So how will the last regional ranking shake out?  Here is my guess...

1. LAX
2. St. Thomas
3. Whitewater
4. CSS
5. Aurora
6. Conc Ill
7.  St. Johns
8.  Stevens Point



I could see LAX and STU being flipped if the Tommies come back and win their tourney today.  How far does St. Johns climb if they win the MIAC tourney?

There is going to be some interesting match-ups at the regional... will be curious to see how it lines up if it does become an 8 team event.

my guess (without knowing exact in-region records and what not)

1. St. Thomas (if they win 2 today)
2. LAX
3. CSS---probably end up being 4
4. Aurora
5. UWW---have a hard time putting them any higher considering they went 2-8 against UST (1-1), LAX (0-6), CSS (1-1)
6.  Concordia
7. St. Johns (if win today)
8.  ?? Don't think I have ever seen more than 6 teams ranked so ill stop at 7.

This is what I think, but what I think and what the NCAA thinks are 2 different things
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Babe Truth on May 13, 2012, 02:41:00 pm
If St. Thomas comes back and wins a pair today, could they or La Crosse be sent out West as a #1 seed?

That would be a travesty & extremely unfair to either team and their families and friends.  What was La Crosse supposed to do - lie down and lose their first two games in the WIAC tournament on purpose in order to stay closer to home?  Maybe two 10 run losses instead of two 10 run wins?  A #1 or #2 seed usually carries some perks beyond playing lower seeds, and I don't buy any of the talk of making it an easier route to Appleton for them in a weaker regional.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 13, 2012, 03:41:20 pm
St Johns puts up a 7 spot in the bottom of 3 in game 2 to go up 7-1.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 13, 2012, 04:23:33 pm
St Johns puts up a 7 spot in the bottom of 3 in game 2 to go up 7-1.
  :)

Johnnies put up a TD on the Tommies?  Wow

Oh!!! This is baseball.   ;)
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 13, 2012, 05:24:06 pm
St. Johns wins 10-5 for the MIAC AQ. Throws a little wrench into things
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 13, 2012, 05:35:53 pm
So... Will St. Johns go west? Maybe St. Norbert? Maybe both...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 13, 2012, 05:51:04 pm
So... Will St. Johns go west? Maybe St. Norbert? Maybe both...

What about concordia?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on May 13, 2012, 07:31:26 pm
So... Will St. Johns go west? Maybe St. Norbert? Maybe both...

What about concordia?

Are the C candidates from the Midwest or the Central in better shape, cause I don't see how there is room for more than 2 teams out of WW, Conc C, North Park and Ill Weslyan.  Do you take one from each region, or do you just take the two better teams?  And who are they?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 13, 2012, 07:36:01 pm
North park won the CCIW pool A bid. No longer a pool C team.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 13, 2012, 09:29:06 pm
We're doing a conference call in a half hour, but here's how I think the Whitewater Regional should look. I'm sure there will be a compromise in our talks.

MW: St. Thomas, La Crosse, Chicago, St. Scholastica/St. John's, Whitewater, Aurora, Coe, St. Norbert.

St. John's or CSS to the West. Concordia Chicago, if in, to Etta.

North Park and Illinois Wesleyan to Rhodes. Birmingham Southern to Virginia. My personal mock has six total flights.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: D3Vike11 on May 13, 2012, 10:36:37 pm
We're doing a conference call in a half hour, but here's how I think the Whitewater Regional should look. I'm sure there will be a compromise in our talks.

MW: St. Thomas, La Crosse, Chicago, St. Scholastica/St. John's, Whitewater, Aurora, Coe, St. Norbert.

St. John's or CSS to the West. Concordia Chicago, if in, to Etta.

North Park and Illinois Wesleyan to Rhodes. Birmingham Southern to Virginia. My personal mock has six total flights.

Interesting. I can see North Park to MW, IWU to Rhodes along with Birmingham Southern. Also, St. Thomas out West.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 13, 2012, 11:52:47 pm
We're doing a conference call in a half hour, but here's how I think the Whitewater Regional should look. I'm sure there will be a compromise in our talks.

MW: St. Thomas, La Crosse, Chicago, St. Scholastica/St. John's, Whitewater, Aurora, Coe, St. Norbert.

St. John's or CSS to the West. Concordia Chicago, if in, to Etta.

North Park and Illinois Wesleyan to Rhodes. Birmingham Southern to Virginia. My personal mock has six total flights.

Interesting. I can see North Park to MW, IWU to Rhodes along with Birmingham Southern. Also, St. Thomas out West.
Our predictions on the front page are forthcoming.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: D3Vike11 on May 13, 2012, 11:59:50 pm
We're doing a conference call in a half hour, but here's how I think the Whitewater Regional should look. I'm sure there will be a compromise in our talks.

MW: St. Thomas, La Crosse, Chicago, St. Scholastica/St. John's, Whitewater, Aurora, Coe, St. Norbert.

St. John's or CSS to the West. Concordia Chicago, if in, to Etta.

North Park and Illinois Wesleyan to Rhodes. Birmingham Southern to Virginia. My personal mock has six total flights.

Interesting. I can see North Park to MW, IWU to Rhodes along with Birmingham Southern. Also, St. Thomas out West.
Our predictions on the front page are forthcoming.

waiting patiently...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: GBMAN on May 14, 2012, 01:08:30 am
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2012/05/2012-playoff-projections
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: mr_b on May 14, 2012, 03:33:57 am
NCAA playoff field released (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2012/05/playoff-field)

North Park will go to the Midwest Regional (Whitewater), along with Aurora and Concordia-Chicago.  Illinois Wesleyan will go the the Central (Millington, TN) also with Wash U and Webster.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: D3Vike11 on May 14, 2012, 06:44:34 am
1st Round Matchups:

(4)Wis-Whitwater vs (5)Concordia-Chicago     10:00 am

(1)St. Thomas vs (8)St. Norbert         1:00 pm

(3)North Park vs (6)St. Scholastica        4:00 pm

(2)Wis-La Crosse vs (7)Aurora         7:00 pm
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on May 14, 2012, 12:12:18 pm
I'm a bit surprised by the love that Whitewater is getting with the #4 seed.  Whitewater goes from being not ranked in the first region ranking, to getting 3 of 4 games from Point, they some how jumped from not being regionally ranked to 3rd (based on the Point games alone) in the next ranking, then stay at what looks like a #3 midwest ranking after getting smoked 2 more times by LAX in the conference tournament.  That's 0-6 vs LAX on the year, some bad losses to Plateville (1), Bethel (1), OshKosh (2) on their resume, yet some how their really nice SOS is still enough to make them the #3 in the Midwest.

I know they are a good team and I feel they have a chance to win the regional... but I don't totally get them being seeded #4. 
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: MIACLUV on May 14, 2012, 12:48:29 pm
I'm with you Biggio34! This whole Midwest regional can be questioned. Not even sure I can justify the Tommies as a #1 seed based on their play of late. LaCrosse is clearly the best team in the Region right now. Not to say I mind the Tommies playing Norberts instead of Aurora, because that is a pretty good #7 seed. Speaking of Aurora, what do you have to do to get above a team from your own conference. Aurora wins the league that Conc. Chicago (3rd) is in, and wins the conference tournament. REALLY how does the regional voters keep putting them ahead of Aurora? I get it SOS, but head to head has to mean something. Vodelich being on the regional rankings commitee definitely isn't hurting WW's case. Who is going to stand up and go against him? I know Coach Verdugo is the MIAC rep and he isn't the type to do it. Also the MIAC tournament obviously helped the Tommies keep the #1 seed because they insist on going into Sunday. So my guess would be that the rankings were submitted prior to the outcome of the tournament. And I would ask the NCAA, what the heck? You take two teams that would have been lower seeds and closer (St. Johns - St. Could, MN & Coe College - Cedar Rapids IA) to Whitewater and ship them out West? And worst you throw a North Park into a Regional that is already a dog fight of quality teams. I can see either of those two coming out of the West to Appleton. How easy would it have been to ship North Park and Conc. Chicago out there on the same plane out of Chicago. It all just makes to much sense to do it that way, so the NCAA wont do it that way. Good luck to all the teams, they'll need it.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: D3Vike11 on May 14, 2012, 12:55:24 pm
One could make an argument that the Midwest Regional is the toughest regional out there.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Babe Truth on May 14, 2012, 01:51:13 pm
Yeah, how on Earth does Aurora get just a #7?  They'll likely be playing with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove.  But if UWL keeps playing the way they did in their dominating performance this weekend it won't matter who's playing them.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on May 14, 2012, 02:40:56 pm
Yeah, how on Earth does Aurora get just a #7?  They'll likely be playing with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove.  But if UWL keeps playing the way they did in their dominating performance this weekend it won't matter who's playing them.

The Aurora seed does not make sense.  I would think that flipping them and Conc C would make more sense, but apparently its all about SOS.  Winning the conf, the tournament, and beating Conc C head to head in the process is apparently not good enough. 

Does anyone have the numbers on this, I'm interested to see how the midwest numbers layout, I'm guessing they are fairly overwhelming in favor of WW and Conc C and that's why they got the seeds they did.

Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 14, 2012, 02:44:49 pm
Conc SoS in in the 40-50th range while Aurora is the 130-150th....

UPDATED: UWW is #30, CUC is #54 and Aurora is #174... hence the difference in the seeds.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: D3Vike11 on May 14, 2012, 02:48:23 pm
Record vs other Midwest Region opponents:

St. Thomas 4-2 (2-0 St. Scholastica, 1-1 LaX, 1-1 Whitewater)
Wis-LaX 8-4 (1-1 St. Thomas, 1-1 Concordia, 0-2 St. Scholastica, 6-0 Whitewater)
North Park 0-0
Whitewater 2-8 (1-1 St. Thomas, 1-1 St. Scholastica, 0-6 Wis-LaX)
Concordia (IL) 2-3 (1-1 Wis-LaX, 1-2 Aurora)
St. Scholastica  3-3 (0-2 St. Thomas, 2-0 Wis-LaX, 1-1 Whitewater)
Aurora  2-1 (Concordia)
St. Norbert 0-0
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: MIACLUV on May 14, 2012, 05:29:25 pm
Schedules and SOS are only controllable to a point. The conference your school is in is really beyond your control (see CSS, Aurora, Conc. Chi, St. Norberts) and the Florida schedule is a shot in the dark that there will be decent teams that happen to be on break at the same time and in your location, and by the way lets hope they're decent this year. So look at the games below. This is what I like to call "controllable schedule." Lastly the teams in the WIAC basicly get bonus credit in the Conf. Tournament where as the NAC, UMAC, MWC conferences get penalized by playing their own conf. tournament. Seems to make sense. 

Game scheduled that are not Florida or Conference:
St. Thomas: CSS-3, WW-2, LAX-2, Osh-2, U of MN-1
Aurora: Monmouth-2, Augustanna-2, U of Chic-2, Elmhurst-1, Carthage-1, Wheaton-1
St. Norberts: Wash U-3, UWSP-2, Carthage-1, 
UW-Whitewater: Bethel-2, UST-2, Ripon-2, CSS-2, Conc Wis-1
UW-LaCrosse: UST-2, CSS-2, St. Olaf-2
St. Scholastica: UST-3, Wash U-2, Buena Vista-2, St. Olaf-2, LAX-2, WW-2
Conc Chi: Rose Holman-1, Alma-1, Ill Wes-1 (non-conf), U of Chi-1, Wheaton-1, Carthage-2

Aurora & Conc Chi are pretty comparable with scheduling common teams, CSS never can overcome the UMAC schedule which is too bad because that is a pretty good non-conference schedule. The MIAC & WIAC traditionally get good numbers from the conference teams which helps keep a 15 loss WW team on the board and kept UWSP right there until the end.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 14, 2012, 08:26:24 pm
I don't think there is a year since 05' where i haven't been baffled by the seeding for the Midwest.

Here are the Midwest Teams SOS that were D3 but don't think they include conf tourney but should be in the general neighborhood. Someone may have more up to date.

Thomas 14
LAX 41
North Park 131
UWW 30
Concordia 55
CSS 76
Aurora 175
St. Norbert 155

North Park is the specific reason why I am baffled every year. All i hear every year is SOS is what helps the WIAC teams but hurts CSS. Then you look at North Park and they are 3 seeds ahead of CSS with a worse SOS and with CSS going 3-3 against UWW, UST, LAX 3 of the top 4 seeds.  I also think UWW got a little too much love which other people eluded too.  (my 2 cents)

However I do not think it makes much difference if you are 3, 4, 5, or 6th seed this year or even most years but whether you are the 2nd or 3rd seed can make a difference. Fortunately this year it was pretty cut and dry for 1 and 2.

FYI North Park's record is listed incorrectly on both their projections and playoff field release.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Gregory Sager on May 14, 2012, 09:50:35 pm
Those SOS numbers look fishy to me. Even taking non-conference play into consideration, how does St. Scholastica end up with a SOS that high when five of the eight teams in its league finished below .500 -- with three of those five not even reaching double digits in wins? Meanwhile, NPU played in a league in which seven of the eight teams finished above .500, with three of them reaching the 25-win mark.

FYI North Park's record is listed incorrectly on both their projections and playoff field release.

And by "their" he means d3baseball.com. NPU's playoff release has the proper record of the Vikings (32-12) listed, (http://athletics.northpark.edu/news/2012/5/14/BB_0514123103.aspx?path=baseball) as does UWW's page for the tournament (http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/2012/4/19/BSB_0419123206.aspx?id=731).
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 14, 2012, 10:22:16 pm
"Their" would also mean NCAA.com, not so coincidentally, at that time. NCAA.com has since updated the record. So has D3baseball.com.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on May 15, 2012, 10:50:37 am
I think the most interesting match up in the first round of the Midwest Regional is LAX vs Aurora.  The core or Aurora's team was in this regional last year and drew a tough Point team in its opening round game, which they lost 3-2 I believe.  This team belongs and should be confident heading into the tournament.  They are also probably playing with a bit of a chip on their shoulder because of their low seed.  It will be interesting to see if they can stop the steam roller of Lacrosse who appears to be nearly unbeatable right now.  Anyone have a guess on the pitching match up?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Babe Truth on May 15, 2012, 03:17:37 pm
I agree with you biggio, Aurora definitely looks like they're a very solid team that could have been even a #3 in this pool.  I personally put only so much weight on SoS, and know UWL is not going to be taking them lightly by any means.

As for pitchers, I'd be surprised if the season-long UWL rotation varies - especially after the Verthein, Scray and Johnson 0.35 ERA last weekend.  If the top 2 seeds can each get past their first two opponents the Eagles would have to feel pretty good about sending Johnson and his season 0.83 against St. Thomas on Friday.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on May 15, 2012, 03:26:13 pm
I agree with you biggio, Aurora definitely looks like they're a very solid team that could have been even a #3 in this pool.  I personally put only so much weight on SoS, and know UWL is not going to be taking them lightly by any means.

As for pitchers, I'd be surprised if the season-long UWL rotation varies - especially after the Verthein, Scray and Johnson 0.35 ERA last weekend.  If the top 2 seeds can each get past their first two opponents the Eagles would have to feel pretty good about sending Johnson and his season 0.83 against St. Thomas on Friday.

Although the era's are slightly different, I would say the Tommies would feel equally as confident with either Mahar, Gapinski, or Thomas on the mound.  I'm wondering how their starts on Saturday and Sunday in the MIAC tourney, which limits their rest, will affect how they set up their rotation.  Do they throw Dominick (who shut down St Mary's) in their opener vs Norberts?

In a St Thomas vs LAX match up I would give LAX a slight edge just because I think they are a much more potent offensive team.  And with that said, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Tommies offense catch fire and score some runs.  :)  Who knows what will happen, but I can't wait to find out.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: MIACLUV on May 15, 2012, 04:06:00 pm
Pitching wont be an issue for the Tommies, In fact I see no reason not to start Dominik in game 1. The loss to St. Mary's cannot be put on his right arm, only giving up 1 hit through 8 innings. I worry about the offense though, it has been real inconsistent all season. Whitewater is lying in the bushes waiting to pounce, as few talk about their chances or put them on the list as a regional favorite. I think they are going to make a deep run, there is a something to be said about a team at home and the comforts of that. Lastly I thought it quite interesting how the Midwest preview brought up the fact that North Park has played ONE ranked opponent all season! And they are a #3 seed. Seriously. Can the NCAA step aside and let people that actually follow baseball at the D3 level make the decisions, because they obviously have no clue. Honestly the Tommies should be the #2.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Just Bill on May 15, 2012, 04:16:32 pm
Can the NCAA step aside and let people that actually follow baseball at the D3 level make the decisions, because they obviously have no clue. Honestly the Tommies should be the #2.

The "NCAA" that you want to step aside are the coaches and athletic directors from the schools in the region and I'm pretty sure they follow the teams closely. It's not a bunch of suit-wearing bureaucrats in Indianapolis. I'm not sure who you want to replace them.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: mr_b on May 15, 2012, 04:17:39 pm
Lastly I thought it quite interesting how the Midwest preview brought up the fact that North Park has played ONE ranked opponent all season!
The information on the preview states that North Park has played one regional opponent all season, which obviously in inaccurate.  The Vikings actually have a 28-10 in-region record.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Just Bill on May 15, 2012, 04:19:36 pm
Lastly I thought it quite interesting how the Midwest preview brought up the fact that North Park has played ONE ranked opponent all season!
The information on the preview states that North Park has played one regional opponent all season, which obviously in inaccurate.  The Vikings actually have a 28-10 in-region record.

I believe he meant to say North Park has played just one team which is currently in a regional tournament.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: biggio34 on May 15, 2012, 04:54:11 pm
Lastly I thought it quite interesting how the Midwest preview brought up the fact that North Park has played ONE ranked opponent all season! And they are a #3 seed. Seriously. Can the NCAA step aside and let people that actually follow baseball at the D3 level make the decisions, because they obviously have no clue.

I think generally speaking the process is about as fair as it can be made.  There are always going to be some head scratching seedings that will raise questions, but isn't that part of the fun?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 15, 2012, 08:39:09 pm
What are we going to be seeing for pitching matchups?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 15, 2012, 11:52:30 pm
Lastly I thought it quite interesting how the Midwest preview brought up the fact that North Park has played ONE ranked opponent all season!
The information on the preview states that North Park has played one regional opponent all season, which obviously in inaccurate.  The Vikings actually have a 28-10 in-region record.

I believe he meant to say North Park has played just one team which is currently in a regional tournament.
Didn't think it was necessary, but I guess it was. The fragment was "The Vikings have only played one regional team all season..." Kudos to anyone who cracked the code and got the same meaning as Just Bill.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: D3Vike11 on May 15, 2012, 11:58:48 pm
1.) St. Thomas (33-7)        3.04 era, .977 fld%, .314 avg, .380 ob%, .422 slg%, 52 sb
2.) Wisc-LaX (33-9)           3.69 era, .952 fld%, .324 avg, .396 ob%, .449 slg%, 48 sb
3.) North Park (32-12)       3.82 era, .955 fld%, .335 avg, .425 ob%, .441 slg%, 88 sb
4.) Whitewater (29-16)      4.96 era, .964 fld%, .323 avg, .398 ob%, .471 slg%, 74 sb
5.) Concordia-IL (33-12)    3.42 era, .970 fld%, .357 avg, .425 ob%, .464 slg%, 70 sb
6.) St. Scholastica (33-9)   3.40 era, .954 fld%, .344 avg, .426 ob%, .495 slg%, 42 sb
7.) Aurora (36-8)              2.45 era, .964 fld%, .344 avg, .412 ob%, .488 slg%, 120 sb
8.) St. Norbert (26-11)      4.85 era, .955 fld%, .334 avg, .434 ob%, .419 slg%, 63 sb


Aurora looks strong, on paper.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: RFMichigan on May 16, 2012, 12:27:29 pm
Good first game in the Midwest regional so far. UWW up 1 - 0 on CUC in the 7th. CUC survives a 1st & 3rd w/ nobody out in the bottom of the 6th with no runs given up. Both pitchers - Thorsen for CUC (2 hits through seven) and Schmitz for UWW (four hits through seven) - are effective so far.

EDIT: CUC scores a run in the top of the 7th to tie the game 1 - 1.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 16, 2012, 12:48:41 pm
Going to the bottom of the 9th. 1-1 (UWW and CU)
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 16, 2012, 01:00:51 pm
Damn.....UWW had 1st and 2nd with one out, and couldn't drive in the winning run.

Going into the 10th, still a 1-1 game.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2012, 01:04:11 pm
The Midwest Regional kicks off with a great first game today, as Whitewater and Concordia are in the 10th inning tied 1-1. 

Both starting pitchers were solid as they combined to give up just seven hits in 16.1 innings of work (Schmitz still in the game for Whitewater.)  Both defenses have been solid as well, as the teams have combined to commit just one error despite the fact that there have been only five K's the entire game thus far.

I'm sure St. Thomas and St. Norbert would love to see this game go about 16 innings and have both teams blow through their bullpen.  Regardless, this is the type of game that seems the norm in the first round as both teams are at full strength pitching-wise.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 16, 2012, 01:06:12 pm
The Midwest Regional kicks off with a great first game today, as Whitewater and Concordia are in the 10th inning tied 1-1. 

Both starting pitchers were solid as they combined to give up just seven hits in 16.1 innings of work (Schmitz still in the game for Whitewater.)  Both defenses have been solid as well, as the teams have combined to commit just one error despite the fact that there have been only five K's the entire game thus far.

I'm sure St. Thomas and St. Norbert would love to see this game go about 16 innings and have both teams blow through their bullpen.

Schmitz is going 10 (innings) strong so far. He put down Concordia in order in the 10th.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 16, 2012, 01:08:47 pm
Here we go...1st and 2nd nobody out for the hawks
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 16, 2012, 01:11:28 pm
Beyer, game-winning single. Three straight singles in the top of the 10th for Whitewater

2-1 Hawks - Final
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: GBMAN on May 16, 2012, 01:34:50 pm
Unbelievable outing by Eric Schmitz.... 10 innings....
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 16, 2012, 03:31:36 pm
UST up 4-1 in the 6th...If the score holds up UWW will be facing UST in its next game.

This will mark the third time this school year that these two schools will face each other in a post-season game. First was football, then men's basketball, now baseball. Oddly enough all three games where played in Whitewater.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: GBMAN on May 16, 2012, 04:01:20 pm
UST up 4-1 in the 6th...If the score holds up UWW will be facing UST in its next game.

This will mark the third time this school year that these two schools will face each other in a post-season game. First was football, then men's basketball, now baseball. Oddly enough all three games where played in Whitewater.

And won by Whitewater I may add..
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 16, 2012, 06:50:07 pm
North Park and CSS tied 7-7 bottom of 7. Poor pitching and fielding on both sides.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2012, 06:55:32 pm
North Park and CSS tied 7-7 bottom of 7. Poor pitching and fielding on both sides.
You don't typically see games like this in a teams first Regional game as both pitching staffs are at full strength...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 16, 2012, 07:07:41 pm
Agreed. CSS's pitching staff lacks a true ace (especially without Andy Davis) so might be part of the reason, but still surprising none the less.

CSS up 8-7 now in the bottom of 8, North Park has a leadoff single
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 16, 2012, 07:26:03 pm
CSS wins 8-7. North Park had the leadoff batter on the last 3 innings but couldn't push a run across.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2012, 08:47:07 pm
Aurora hitting Verthein all over the park, as they have five hits in the first two innings to take a 2-0 lead.

We'll get to see if the Eagles can be the comeback kids again tonight....
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 16, 2012, 09:56:39 pm
Verthein settles down and is able to escape a couple of jams to hold Aurora to two runs...

Aurora leads 2-1 as the game heads to the 8th inning...

Intersting that the Midwest Regional starts the first day with a WIAC vs NathCon pitcher's duel and ends the first day with a WAIC vs NathCon pitcher's duel...  I wouldn't expect anything less on the opening day of Regionals.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2012, 10:14:25 pm
If my memory is any good I believe Drew Gay pitched against Point last year first game and for the most part locked up Point's bats too so this is not surprising that La Crosse is struggling to score. 
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: ShineTime on May 16, 2012, 10:18:15 pm
La Crosse falls 2-1 to Aurora.  Not much of an upset as many would think Aurora is an unbelievable #7 seed.  I still can't believe La Crosse didn't get the one seed and get St. Norberts first round.  Would've made a big difference.  St. Thomas is sitting really good having Maher against Whitewater next game.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: GBMAN on May 16, 2012, 10:22:35 pm
LAX UPset by Aurora 2-1
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 16, 2012, 10:34:33 pm
LAX UPset by Aurora 2-1
Even though I thought LAX was the favorite – and I think that may have been the consensus before today – I don't see Drew Gay beating any D-III team as an upset. Warnecke can beat anyone too. I wouldn't be surprised to see AU in the winner's bracket final.

I thought there were seven teams with a legitimate shot at the regional title. That hasn't changed.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: mwunder on May 17, 2012, 10:59:00 am
Kind of a shame that Whitewater isn't supplying live video for all of the games in the Regional.  They have multiple camera angles for the UWW games, but not even a fixed shot for the rest of the games.  A little weak.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Just Bill on May 17, 2012, 11:16:34 am
Kind of a shame that Whitewater isn't supplying live video for all of the games in the Regional.  They have multiple camera angles for the UWW games, but not even a fixed shot for the rest of the games.  A little weak.

Whitewater did the same thing last year. I agree.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 17, 2012, 11:45:45 am
Kind of a shame that Whitewater isn't supplying live video for all of the games in the Regional.  They have multiple camera angles for the UWW games, but not even a fixed shot for the rest of the games.  A little weak.

This is an NCAA sponsored event, right? It's probably up to them...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Just Bill on May 17, 2012, 11:56:46 am
No. The host school can webcast the tournament without paying any rights fees, as long as it's a student run production and not a commercial broadcast. If I recall correctly, Whitewater's limitation is a lack of available workers since their semester is already completed.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: mwunder on May 17, 2012, 01:51:47 pm
No. The host school can webcast the tournament without paying any rights fees, as long as it's a student run production and not a commercial broadcast. If I recall correctly, Whitewater's limitation is a lack of available workers since their semester is already completed.

The Central region is being broadcast via live streaming for all games if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 17, 2012, 02:40:48 pm
A little surprised to see St. Norberts handle Concordia with ease. I thought Condordia would bounce back today.

I have a feeling UWW will be seeing UWL tomorrow for an elimination game. UWL has owned us this season (0 wins - 6 losses). However all six of those games were played in La Crosse.

Maybe it won't come to that if UWW can knock off UST this afternoon. UWW is 1-1 against the Tommies this season.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2012, 03:01:51 pm
A little surprised to see St. Norberts handle Concordia with ease. I thought Condordia would bounce back today.

I have a feeling UWW will be seeing UWL tomorrow for an elimination game. UWL has owned us this season (0 wins - 6 losses). However all six of those games were played in La Crosse.
Maybe it won't come to that if UWW can knock off UST this afternoon. UWW is 1-1 against the Tommies this season.

UWL is currently down 2-1 to North Park in the 4th
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BigPoppa on May 17, 2012, 03:09:43 pm
Are there any live stats that are working for the NPU/LAX game?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2012, 03:18:49 pm
Are there any live stats that are working for the NPU/LAX game?
Yup... 

La Crosse up 3-2 in the Bottom of the 5th inning...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 17, 2012, 03:54:44 pm
Now 4-2 in the 8th
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: cubs on May 17, 2012, 04:53:49 pm
La Crosse falls 2-1 to Aurora.  Not much of an upset as many would think Aurora is an unbelievable #7 seed.  I still can't believe La Crosse didn't get the one seed and get St. Norberts first round.  Would've made a big difference.  St. Thomas is sitting really good having Maher against Whitewater next game.
Dylan Thomas getting the start for St. Thomas instead of Maher....

Colin Grove will take the ball for the Warhawks....

I know I mentioned this before and didn't get a response, but there must be something clearly worng with Whitewater pitcher Kyle Stewart.  He started the season 7-0 and was their "ace,' yet for the past two weekends, he has thrown less than an inning....
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 17, 2012, 08:16:40 pm
I have a feeling UWW will be seeing UWL tomorrow for an elimination game. UWL has owned us this season (0 wins - 6 losses). However all six of those games were played in La Crosse.

Here we go...7th time a charm???
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 17, 2012, 08:52:34 pm
CSS puts up 3 in the top of the 3rd to go up 3-0 over Aurora
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 17, 2012, 09:50:34 pm
Aurora gets 3 back in the bottom of 6, still down 4-3 to CSS.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 17, 2012, 10:09:18 pm
another run for aurora 4-4 after 7. CSS slowly letting it slip away while squandering offensive opportunities
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 17, 2012, 10:35:11 pm
CSS/Aurora go to the 11th
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Just Bill on May 17, 2012, 10:58:45 pm
CSS gets a leadoff triple in the top of the 12th but can't score it.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 17, 2012, 11:06:55 pm
CSS puts up 2 in the 13th and still batting with a runner on 2nd
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 17, 2012, 11:10:28 pm
CSS puts up 2 in the 13th and still batting with a runner on 2nd
Joe is a hoot tonight. Never heard him so excitable.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 17, 2012, 11:14:19 pm
CSS puts up 2 in the 13th and still batting with a runner on 2nd
Joe is a hoot tonight. Never heard him so excitable.

He can obviously feel how close CSS is and how close they have been all game of letting it slip away

8-4 CSS with still the bases loaded
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 17, 2012, 11:16:45 pm
CSS puts up 2 in the 13th and still batting with a runner on 2nd
Joe is a hoot tonight. Never heard him so excitable.

He can obviously feel how close CSS is and how close they have been all game of letting it slip away

8-4 CSS with still the bases loaded
To be clear, I'm enjoying it. The Saints have never done what they're about to do, so it stands to reason that I've never heard him like this.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 17, 2012, 11:25:24 pm
CSS puts up 2 in the 13th and still batting with a runner on 2nd
Joe is a hoot tonight. Never heard him so excitable.

He can obviously feel how close CSS is and how close they have been all game of letting it slip away

8-4 CSS with still the bases loaded
To be clear, I'm enjoying it. The Saints have never done what they're about to do, so it stands to reason that I've never heard him like this.

CSS wins, meets a familiar face in St. Thomas tomorrow
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 17, 2012, 11:31:57 pm
CSS puts up 2 in the 13th and still batting with a runner on 2nd
Joe is a hoot tonight. Never heard him so excitable.

He can obviously feel how close CSS is and how close they have been all game of letting it slip away

8-4 CSS with still the bases loaded
To be clear, I'm enjoying it. The Saints have never done what they're about to do, so it stands to reason that I've never heard him like this.

CSS wins, meets a familiar face in St. Thomas tomorrow
Did you stick around for the entire tinny mp3 of Piano Man and Joe's signoff? Classic.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 18, 2012, 07:17:33 am
CSS puts up 2 in the 13th and still batting with a runner on 2nd
Joe is a hoot tonight. Never heard him so excitable.

He can obviously feel how close CSS is and how close they have been all game of letting it slip away

8-4 CSS with still the bases loaded
To be clear, I'm enjoying it. The Saints have never done what they're about to do, so it stands to reason that I've never heard him like this.

CSS wins, meets a familiar face in St. Thomas tomorrow
Did you stick around for the entire tinny mp3 of Piano Man and Joe's signoff? Classic.
Unfortunately I did not.

Big win for CSS, great pitching performance by Thomas Rogers who went 6+ innings in relief, his longest outing by far. I believe he has only given up 1 run and only 2 extra base hits in 30 innings of work this year.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: therocket21 on May 18, 2012, 08:07:37 am
Rogers was great last night. I hope he is able to bounce back on Saturday. I am not sure who CSS is going to throw today. Maybe Swenson a junior or Kuening a freshman. Right now is where it would be really nice to throw and Andy Davis out there against the Tommies. If I can recall right I think he had a pretty good outing in this regional against the Tommies last year. Should be a good one today I look forward to it.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 11:12:14 am
Fon a two-run blast in the bottom half of the 1st.

2-0 UWW
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2012, 11:21:04 am
Fon a two-run blast in the bottom half of the 1st.

2-0 UWW

Are you watching 02? And if so, are you experiencing heavy buffering? I've never seen so much buffering from a broadcast of a Warhawk event.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 11:23:06 am
Just keeping track through live stats

http://www.sidearmstats.com/uww/baseball/scoreboard.aspx
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 11:38:32 am
Stewart cruising through three.

0 runs, 2 hits, 3 K's, 0 BB.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: MIACLUV on May 18, 2012, 11:41:36 am
Be interesting to see how the Tommies approach today pitching wise. Get through today without Mahar and its going to be tough for anyone to take two from them on the weekend. CSS has a couple arms left and can definitely swing it but we'll see if the Tommies put those bats to rest and get one step closer to Appleton.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 11:46:38 am
Gonzalez a RBI two-out single

3-0 UWW at the end of three.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: MIACLUV on May 18, 2012, 11:47:43 am
Wind is howling to left here at Prucha no one is out of any game here today!
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 11:56:15 am
UWL got one back. A triple, followed by a wild pitch.

3-1 UWW
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2012, 11:58:22 am
Cladis made a very good diving, fully stretched out stop of a hard hit grounder to second from Burmeister to end the Eagle rally in the top of the 4th. He got up quickly and threw out Burmeister on a close play.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 12:05:03 pm
Hawks score on an error by LX's SS

4-1 UWW going into the 5th
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 12:06:16 pm
Cladis made a very good diving, fully stretched out stop of a hard hit grounder from Burmeister to end the Eagle rally in the top of the 4th. He got up quickly and threw out Burmeister on a close play.

I'm very tempted to watch the game here at work...but I don't think I can get away with it.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2012, 12:14:06 pm
After Gonzalez dropped a sharply hit liner in RF for an error, Friend dives for one in right center to record the third out.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2012, 12:16:57 pm
Cladis made a very good diving, fully stretched out stop of a hard hit grounder from Burmeister to end the Eagle rally in the top of the 4th. He got up quickly and threw out Burmeister on a close play.

I'm very tempted to watch the game here at work...but I don't think I can get away with it.

Considering the poor announcing and the buffering problems, your not missing that much.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 12:19:29 pm
Bases full of purple and nobody out

Time to pile it on Hawks....
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2012, 12:20:36 pm
Bases full of purple and nobody out

Time to pile it on Hawks....

Pitching change for the Eagles.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 12:25:30 pm
Walked in a run

5-1
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2012, 12:27:22 pm
Wild pitch for another run...and another pitching change.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 12:27:50 pm
outch...now a wild pitch

6-1

Tough spot for this RP to inherit, but he's not doing himself any favors
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 12:46:28 pm
Nice....my LiveStats just took a poop on me and is no longer working.

...nevermind, there it goes.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Just Bill on May 18, 2012, 12:50:53 pm
Nice....my LiveStats just took a poop on me and is no longer working.

...nevermind, there it goes.

When the live stats freezes go down below and click the "Mobile devices" link. That one usually keeps going.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 12:59:03 pm
Stewart continues to pitch strong. Strikes out a LX batter with two on to end the inning.

Bottom 7
7-1 UWW
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2012, 01:06:57 pm
Big fly with two on for Beyer...UWW leads 10-1.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 01:39:28 pm
Hawks are sure making this interesting in the ninth....but these guys away already
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 01:41:39 pm
10-7. game tying run is stepping up to the plate
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2012, 01:45:44 pm
Whew!!  Game over UWW 10 UWL 7
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: 02 Warhawk on May 18, 2012, 01:47:36 pm
UWW lives to play again.

Didn't think we would see the tying run at the plate with a 10-1 lead going into the 9th. But oh well, I'll take it, as UWW FINALLY knocks off UWL this season in 7 attempts.

Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 18, 2012, 05:40:45 pm
I see UST is without Podobinski against CSS, thats a big loss
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 18, 2012, 05:41:43 pm
I see UST is without Podobinski against CSS, thats a big loss

Just as I write that Kuznia leads the game off with a solo homerun with help from a steady wind.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 18, 2012, 05:44:01 pm
Oh brother. Joe's quoting Yeats, Emerson and prose about having to fight at the top of the audiocast. Wonder what he's got it the bag if CSS slays the dragon.

[And ... two solo shots for UST before I click "Post." Perhaps it's going to end with a poem by Dylan Thomas. Not the UST All-Region player but the poet]
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 18, 2012, 05:45:24 pm
make that 3 solo hrs
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BaseballFan on May 18, 2012, 06:08:17 pm
Oh brother. Joe's quoting Yeats, Emerson and prose about having to fight at the top of the audiocast. Wonder what he's got it the bag if CSS slays the dragon.

[And ... two solo shots for UST before I click "Post." Perhaps it's going to end with a poem by Dylan Thomas. Not the UST All-Region player but the poet]

Joe must not be feeling well today because he is talking about you now
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 18, 2012, 06:21:27 pm
Oh brother. Joe's quoting Yeats, Emerson and prose about having to fight at the top of the audiocast. Wonder what he's got it the bag if CSS slays the dragon.

[And ... two solo shots for UST before I click "Post." Perhaps it's going to end with a poem by Dylan Thomas. Not the UST All-Region player but the poet]
Joe must not be feeling well today because he is talking about you now
I have issues with his order, but that's for others to say. I'm just happy to be in the same company as JC and No. 4. Little does he know that we met briefly at the Oshkosh Regional years ago.

Make the trip, and we break bread.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: OshDude on May 18, 2012, 07:00:58 pm
make that 3 solo hrs
Do you still have eligibility? If so, a follow up question: how soon can you be in Whitewater, Wis.? UST needs someone to throw a few rounds of BP. Goodness ...
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: SUMMIT!!!!! on May 18, 2012, 07:45:24 pm
22-2??????   TWENTY-TWO???   to two??? did UST convert a 2 pointer after one of its TDs?
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 18, 2012, 11:30:52 pm
UWW beats AU 6-5 in 10 innings with a strong effort in relief by Jack Larson (4.0 innings 0 hits, 0 runs).  Warhawks scored the winning run in the top of the 10th from second base on a pop up that traveled about 2 feet in front of the plate (according to the radio announcers) and called an error on the AU catcher.  Tough way to end things for the Spartans.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: voice on May 19, 2012, 12:45:55 am
UWW beats AU 6-5 in 10 innings with a strong effort in relief by Jack Larson (4.0 innings 0 hits, 0 runs).  Warhawks scored the winning run in the top of the 10th from second base on a pop up that traveled about 2 feet in front of the plate (according to the radio announcers) and called an error on the AU catcher.  Tough way to end things for the Spartans.

BoBo... I was sitting immediately behind home plate and Gary D. was right on with his radio call. 

Travis Wessels was at 2nd base after delivering a 1 out single followed by his steal of 2nd base with two out.

David Claddis then popped up (straight up the chute NO MORE than two feet right in front of the plate.) The AU catcher flat out dropped the ball with Wessels hustling all the way home (with two out). Wessels scored almost simultanious with the dropped pop-up.

It was the strangest game-winning run that I can remember!!

St. Scholastica and UWW at noon on Saturday with the winner needing to beat St. Thomas twice to advance to Appleton.

Great relief effort by Jack Larsen (4 iinnings/0 runs/0 hits) to allow the Hawks the opportunity to win the game late.

Looking forward to Saturday's action at the "Mills!"
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: BoBo on May 19, 2012, 06:20:04 am
UWW beats AU 6-5 in 10 innings with a strong effort in relief by Jack Larson (4.0 innings 0 hits, 0 runs).  Warhawks scored the winning run in the top of the 10th from second base on a pop up that traveled about 2 feet in front of the plate (according to the radio announcers) and called an error on the AU catcher.  Tough way to end things for the Spartans.

BoBo... I was sitting immediately behind home plate and Gary D. was right on with his radio call. 

Travis Wessels was at 2nd base after delivering a 1 out single followed by his steal of 2nd base with two out.

David Claddis then popped up (straight up the chute NO MORE than two feet right in front of the plate.) The AU catcher flat out dropped the ball with Wessels hustling all the way home (with two out). Wessels scored almost simultanious with the dropped pop-up.

It was the strangest game-winning run that I can remember!!

St. Scholastica and UWW at noon on Saturday with the winner needing to beat St. Thomas twice to advance to Appleton.

Great relief effort by Jack Larsen (4 iinnings/0 runs/0 hits) to allow the Hawks the opportunity to win the game late.

Looking forward to Saturday's action at the "Mills!"

A real heads up play by Wessels to run out the play...I mean, scoring from second on a pop up to the catcher.  Sounds like something out of the Carlos Gomez school of baserunning!!  ;)

Here's hoping the Warhawks can take advantage of the gift with 3 more solid games.  The defense is going to have to improve over that AU game,  however, if they expect to win.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: SUMMIT!!!!! on May 19, 2012, 05:28:35 pm
thee "live stats" at UWW are a pathetic joke. If I stay with the "stats moble" it at least keeps up with the action. Also, you thikn the host would provie web cast of ALL games not just the games it plays....kinda bush league of UWW, but whatever. Hopefully I wont need to rely on live stats or webcast to enjoy the World Series.

Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 20, 2012, 08:07:54 am
I have a feeling UWW will be seeing UWL tomorrow for an elimination game. UWL has owned us this season (0 wins - 6 losses). However all six of those games were played in La Crosse.

Here we go...7th time a charm???
One of the best and most optimistic posts of the post-season.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: MIACLUV on May 20, 2012, 11:34:32 am
Regional Champs! If the offense can keep performing like this there's no doubt the title is coming home! Had you told me the Tommies would win the Regional and Maher would throw 6-7 innings and really didn't even need to in the championship I would have thought you were crazy. Very impressive team effort. Congrats to all.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: Brian Carroll on May 20, 2012, 12:35:47 pm
Congrats to UST.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: ShineTime on May 20, 2012, 01:15:04 pm
The scary part is St. Thomas is going to be really good possibly better next year as well unless Maher is in the minors instead of St. Thomas.  I have to give props to Whitewater I for one thought they were coming on strong but had my doubts.  Their going to be very tough next year.  I still like Point to rebound next year and be in the mix as well as La Crosse.
Title: Re: BB: Regionals (Midwest) 2012 Whitewater WI
Post by: MIACLUV on December 07, 2012, 03:21:43 pm
Gotta believe that St. Johns will start throwing their bids in for a Midwest regional site here in the near future. According to Jerry Haugen it is something that they plan on pusuing. The turf playing surface will be ready for this spring with the entire project scheduled to be completed by end of summer 2013. Be a real nice change to get to see a regional on the Minnesota side of the border.