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Title: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 12, 2013, 11:32:28 pm
The D3baseball.com mock bracket will be out by sunrise.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 13, 2013, 08:42:20 am
The list of seeds and pairings:

1.  Manchester
2.  Marietta
3.  Wooster
4.  Washington & Jefferson
5.  Illinois Wesleyan (Central Region team)
6.  Thomas More
7.  PSU - Beherend
8.  Mount Union

Wednesday's Schedule (All times central)
Game 1: #4W&J vs. #5IWU 10:00 AM
Game 2: #1Manchester vs #8Mount Union  1:15 PM
Game 3: #3Wooster vs. #6Thomas More 4:30 PM
Game 4: #2Marietta vs. #7PSU - Beherend 7:45 PM

Thursday's Schedule
Game 5: L G1 vs. L G2 10:00 AM
Game 6: L G3 vs. L G4  1:15 PM
Game 7: W G1 vs. W G2 4:30 PM
Game 8: W G3 vs. W G4 7:45 PM

Official Regional website:  http://www.rose-hulman.edu/athletics/baseball/2013-ncaa-mideast-regional.aspx (http://www.rose-hulman.edu/athletics/baseball/2013-ncaa-mideast-regional.aspx)

Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 13, 2013, 10:36:45 am
A little surprised by TMC getting an at-large.  Overall, I think this is a very winnable region for several teams.  If I was an Etta fan I wouldn't hate this field at all.  And even as the 8 seed I don't think Mount is that big of an underdog against Manchester.  They're definitely not a dominant 1 seed like can be the case some years.  Maybe it's my blind OAC allegiance, but I'd like to think that going through 21 games against OAC competition they've seen teams of Manchester's quality this year.  Good luck to my Raiders and to the Pios!     
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: ScotsFan on May 13, 2013, 11:16:42 am
Maybe it's my blind OAC allegiance, but I'd like to think that going through 21 games against OAC competition they've seen teams of Manchester's quality this year.  Good luck to my Raiders and to the Pios!   

While I don't think the OAC was as good as it has been in years past, it was still the best conference in the Mideast if you ask me and I definitely think that will help Marietta and Mount going forward. 

I was hoping Wooster would get a bit more of a test in the NCAC tournament, but it didn't happen.  Wooster is coming into the NCAA's seemingly playing their best ball of the season as they're coming in riding a 9 game winning streak.  And if you count the NCAC crossover series as tournament games (which technically they were despite the NCAC telling us they weren't) Wooster has not only not lost in NCAC tournament play, they outscored their opponents by an average of 16-4 over 6 games!   :o

To temper my feelings regarding the Scots current hot streak, I know the competition will be ratcheted up a few notches in the Regional than what the Scots were facing in the NCAC tournament.  But still, this team is full of confidence right now heading into the NCAA tournament and that can't be a bad thing.

One note, Wooster will be looking to win their first NCAA Tournament game in FOUR years?!   :o  Their last NCAA Tournament win came against Chapman at the CWS that put the Scots in the championship game.  I'm pretty confident we'll see that streak come to an end...
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: ScotsFan on May 13, 2013, 11:38:40 am
Overall, I think this is a very winnable region for several teams.

Agreed.  While looking at it, it doesn't seem as loaded as Mideast Regionals of the past have been, it is still a very solid field with 3 teams ranked in the top 25 (Marietta, Manchester and IWU) and Wooster could/should be in this week's poll if you ask me.

Also, the D3 Champs for the last 3 seasons are in this regional as Marietta has won the last 2 and IWU was the last team to win prior to Marietta's repeat.  Wooster has some history at the CWS as well finishing 2nd twice including losing a heartbreaker to STU 4 years ago.

Oh, and the 8 seed just won the OAC Tournament which is no easy thing to do!   :o

Should be a fun and exciting tournament! 
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 14, 2013, 07:43:40 am
Do you fellas happen to remember that little ol' team from the cornfields of Indiana that made it to the regional finals last year to only be upended by the eventual national champions?  They didn't have a senior on that team that made any significant contributions. 

Flash forward a year...  those boys have another year of experience under their belts and won 35 games.  Granted, the B.S. strength of schedule rankings has them far down the list.    However you can only play the teams on your schedule.  You can't control how poorly the other teams around you recruit. 

The OAC is getting a lot of pub, and rightfully so based on Marietta's ridiculous history.  All I'm saying is, don't undersell that #1 from Indiana...  they earned it and have a great opportunity to make it out of the Mid-East if the breaks fall their way. 

Merchant, Murphy, Kimm, and Niemann should all be considered when the All-American voting takes place.

Prediction:   Manchester over Wooster



Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: jos s on May 14, 2013, 08:55:16 am
Wooster wins this region easily.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2013, 09:57:01 am
Wooster wins this region easily.

Ummm, don't know what you're basing this opinion on?  Wooster is playing arguably their best baseball of the year at the right time, but they did lose both times they've played Marietta this season fwiw.

I do think Wooster has as good a shot as anyone in this field, but to say they will win this regional easily is a bit of wishful thinking if you ask me...
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: ScotsFan on May 14, 2013, 10:09:41 am
Do you fellas happen to remember that little ol' team from the cornfields of Indiana that made it to the regional finals last year to only be upended by the eventual national champions?  They didn't have a senior on that team that made any significant contributions. 

Flash forward a year...  those boys have another year of experience under their belts and won 35 games.  Granted, the B.S. strength of schedule rankings has them far down the list.    However you can only play the teams on your schedule.  You can't control how poorly the other teams around you recruit. 

The OAC is getting a lot of pub, and rightfully so based on Marietta's ridiculous history.  All I'm saying is, don't undersell that #1 from Indiana...  they earned it and have a great opportunity to make it out of the Mid-East if the breaks fall their way. 

Merchant, Murphy, Kimm, and Niemann should all be considered when the All-American voting takes place.

Prediction:   Manchester over Wooster

SOS is not BS.  Teams that do well in the post season, for the most part do so because they've been tested by quality opponents they've scheduled in the regular season.  If your conference sucks, than you should load up on quality non-conference opponents.  Take Wooster for example.  The NCAC was very down this year as evidenced by Wooster's pummeling of the competition in the NCAC tournament.  But Wooster has gotten their challenges in the non-conference portion of their schedule with  a large portion of their OOC schedule coming against teams that have qualified for the NCAA Tournament.  They've played Marietta twice, Hopkins twice, Case twice, and Wheaton (MA).  And Wooster is only 2-5 vs. those opponents which is why I'm tempering my optimism wrt how the Scots will fare in this regional and not going basing my optimism solely on how dominating Wooster has been during their current unbeaten streak over lesser quality opponents.

I'm not saying that Manchester will struggle this week because of their weak schedule, and 35 wins is quite an accomplishment, but the fact remains that those 35 wins have come as a result of one of the weaker schedules of the teams that are still playing...
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 14, 2013, 10:53:29 am
Do you fellas happen to remember that little ol' team from the cornfields of Indiana that made it to the regional finals last year to only be upended by the eventual national champions?  They didn't have a senior on that team that made any significant contributions. 

Flash forward a year...  those boys have another year of experience under their belts and won 35 games.  Granted, the B.S. strength of schedule rankings has them far down the list.    However you can only play the teams on your schedule.  You can't control how poorly the other teams around you recruit. 

The OAC is getting a lot of pub, and rightfully so based on Marietta's ridiculous history.  All I'm saying is, don't undersell that #1 from Indiana...  they earned it and have a great opportunity to make it out of the Mid-East if the breaks fall their way. 

Merchant, Murphy, Kimm, and Niemann should all be considered when the All-American voting takes place.

Prediction:   Manchester over Wooster

no offense partner, but your boys are going to have their hands full in game one with Mount Union and the OAC pitcher of the year, Carlino.  good luck though, would hate to go home early as the #1 seed.

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Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 14, 2013, 11:28:33 am
Do you fellas happen to remember that little ol' team from the cornfields of Indiana that made it to the regional finals last year to only be upended by the eventual national champions?  They didn't have a senior on that team that made any significant contributions. 

Flash forward a year...  those boys have another year of experience under their belts and won 35 games.  Granted, the B.S. strength of schedule rankings has them far down the list.    However you can only play the teams on your schedule.  You can't control how poorly the other teams around you recruit. 

The OAC is getting a lot of pub, and rightfully so based on Marietta's ridiculous history.  All I'm saying is, don't undersell that #1 from Indiana...  they earned it and have a great opportunity to make it out of the Mid-East if the breaks fall their way. 

Merchant, Murphy, Kimm, and Niemann should all be considered when the All-American voting takes place.

Prediction:   Manchester over Wooster

SOS is not BS.  Teams that do well in the post season, for the most part do so because they've been tested by quality opponents they've scheduled in the regular season.  If your conference sucks, than you should load up on quality non-conference opponents.  Take Wooster for example.  The NCAC was very down this year as evidenced by Wooster's pummeling of the competition in the NCAC tournament.  But Wooster has gotten their challenges in the non-conference portion of their schedule with  a large portion of their OOC schedule coming against teams that have qualified for the NCAA Tournament.  They've played Marietta twice, Hopkins twice, Case twice, and Wheaton (MA).  And Wooster is only 2-5 vs. those opponents which is why I'm tempering my optimism wrt how the Scots will fare in this regional and not going basing my optimism solely on how dominating Wooster has been during their current unbeaten streak over lesser quality opponents.

I'm not saying that Manchester will struggle this week because of their weak schedule, and 35 wins is quite an accomplishment, but the fact remains that those 35 wins have come as a result of one of the weaker schedules of the teams that are still playing...
Great points scottsfan. You guys scheduled well for your OOC games and deserve being in the regionals. I will be rooting for them.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 14, 2013, 11:49:56 am

SOS is not BS.  Teams that do well in the post season, for the most part do so because they've been tested by quality opponents they've scheduled in the regular season.  If your conference sucks, than you should load up on quality non-conference opponents. 

This times a billion. 

It is not to say Manchester won't have success.  If they play like they did in the regional a year ago, they have a good chance to win it this year.  I also think they have one of the toughest first round matchups.  Carlino is an outstanding pitcher and gives them a chance in any game. 
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2013, 04:28:15 pm

SOS is not BS.  Teams that do well in the post season, for the most part do so because they've been tested by quality opponents they've scheduled in the regular season.  If your conference sucks, than you should load up on quality non-conference opponents. 

This times a billion. 

It is not to say Manchester won't have success.  If they play like they did in the regional a year ago, they have a good chance to win it this year.  I also think they have one of the toughest first round matchups.  Carlino is an outstanding pitcher and gives them a chance in any game.

It seems like it's even tougher to get a handle on Manchester because they haven't played anyone outside of the HCAC in almost 2 months.  It's hard to gauge where you are when you're stuck playing 25 games straight against average to bad teams.  That's not Manchester's fault that the conference wasn't good this year, but obviously you're not going to have a good SOS when your stiffest competition is .500 teams for 2/3 of your schedule.  On paper their pre-conference schedule looks like they were trying to play tough teams (DePauw x2, Heidelberg x3, Wabash).  No cupcakes there so I give them credit for trying to play teams that are usually good (or at least decent).  It just so happened that those teams were all down by their standards.

 
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 14, 2013, 09:35:44 pm
SOS didn't matter last year when Manchester came in as a #6 see(if I recall correctly).  SOS didn't matter in 2002 when Manchester beat #1 nationally ranked Wooster en route to Wooster's 0-2 exit from the regional.   

My argument remains, SOS is BS b/c geographically DIII teams can only realistically play teams within a reasonable geographic radius.  Ohio obviously has better DIII teams than Indiana( I cannot argue to the contrary).  Just don't discount the fact that Manchester beat all of the teams they were supposed to beat and Marietta did lose 12 times...  versus good teams or not, still lost. 

If Manchester gets past this awesome pitcher from Mount Union, they have a offense and pitching to get to this done.  Don't understate the fact that Manchester is playing at a host field of a conference foe.  Familiarity with the confines of Rose Hulman's field and a sense of playing "at home" could also be an advantage against the other schools that travel so far to play. 

Regardless of my bias, this regional should shape up to be very entertaining.

Best of luck to all.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 14, 2013, 11:39:28 pm
Their conference schedule screws them more than geography, IMO. That's a ton of conference games. It eats up your schedule.  They played Heidelberg. They should be playing TMC too.  Teams like Etta also load up on top 25 caliber teams down south.  I wish Mount would do that more.  Maybe Manchester could too?  In the end it doesn't matter as long as they win the HCAC.

Manchester's offense will be a great test for Zach Carlino.  He may pitch well, he may not. But he won't be intimidated.  The kid beat the national champs on their field as a soph then beat them again this year.  He's a gamer.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 02:46:11 am
Weather could be a significant issue on Thursday. Late tomorrow could be affected, but I think as long as they don't futz around they should be able to get the games in before the rain.

Hopefully Thursday will be better than it looks or at least they can get a couple of games in.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 15, 2013, 11:42:28 am
W&J and IL Wesleyan are knotted up at 3-3 in the 7th.  Good game to start us off. 
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2013, 11:44:28 am
my video feed isn't working. stats are fine but not video....anyone else having issues, or OS it just my work computer?? thanks.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 12:05:09 pm
my video feed isn't working. stats are fine but not video....anyone else having issues, or OS it just my work computer?? thanks.

I think it's probably your computer. Does your work block streaming video?
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2013, 12:08:07 pm
it blocks some, but not all. the other games are streaming fine, but i just have a black screen from the game central Mideast website. oh well, stats are good...and video should be fine for later this evening at home.

go W&J, Mount, Wooster, and the Etta Express!!!!
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mr_b on May 15, 2013, 12:24:17 pm
Washington & Jefferson take game one, 5-3, over Illinois Wesleyan.  A key error led to two unearned runs for the Presidents.  Jeff Johnson is tagged with his first loss of the season.  I also want to recognize the video play-by-play announcers for their fine work!
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 02:09:41 pm
Carlino picked a bad time for his first off game of the year...down 3-0 and trying to pitch out of trouble in the 4th.

Scott looks sharp for Manchester.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 15, 2013, 02:24:26 pm
Carlino isn't as impressive as advertised.  5 runs, 4 BBs and 0 Ks through 4 innings?   

We still haven't seen how Manchester can do against a good team though. 

Don't sleep on the Spartans.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 02:37:33 pm
Definitely not his best game. Dunno if they came out tight or what it was.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2013, 02:44:07 pm
Carlino was off today, definitely not how he looked all year.

Scott has looked alright, but nothing dominating.  I'very never seen so many line and flyouts to a songle outfielder before.  Murphy has 8 put outs in RF and it's only the 6th inning...crazy.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 15, 2013, 02:46:03 pm
I think I have an idea why Carlino struggled....  Manchester has an experienced team that gets on base at a ridiculous rate of .428 coming into this game.

But you never know,  maybe he is just not used to 80 degrees and sunny after the horrible spring weather he's been pitching in.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2013, 02:55:58 pm
I think I have an idea why Carlino struggled....  Manchester has an experienced team that gets on base at a ridiculous rate of .428 coming into this game.

But you never know,  maybe he is just not used to 80 degrees and sunny after the horrible spring weather he's been pitching in.

with those great offensive stats it'll be interesting to see how they hold up this weekend, and maybe next weekend if they are fortunate enough to make it to the series.

would've loved to see them play a competitive schedule this year and see how the stats would'be varied, if at all. experienced lineups can go a long way in the postseason, so well see of Manchester can make a run.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 15, 2013, 03:12:22 pm
How many seniors did Marietta graduate last year?  I know they just reload, but I'm curious as to how many returned this year.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2013, 03:18:22 pm
How many seniors did Marietta graduate last year?  I know they just reload, but I'm curious as to how many returned this year.

they lost their SS (all American), 2b, and 5 pitchers (3 all Americans)....so 7 that contributed.

this year's team has 5 senior starters that have played significantly for 3 years (lots of world series games), and their ace pitcher is a senior, who was the number 3 last year....so 6 contributing seniors.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 04:58:10 pm
How many seniors did Marietta graduate last year?  I know they just reload, but I'm curious as to how many returned this year.

they lost their SS (all American), 2b, and 5 pitchers (3 all Americans)....so 7 that contributed.

this year's team has 5 senior starters that have played significantly for 3 years (lots of world series games), and their ace pitcher is a senior, who was the number 3 last year....so 6 contributing seniors.

Plus whatever category you put Luke Langdon in...he returned, but hasn't pitched due to injury.

Not sure what happened with Carlino. Usually he's around the plate and at least makes you work for it. Manchester was just the much better team today, played better and advances in the bracket.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 15, 2013, 05:23:35 pm
langdon is on the 25 man regional roster in the media guide for the tournament...any idea if he'll pitch?
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 06:04:04 pm
langdon is on the 25 man regional roster in the media guide for the tournament...any idea if he'll pitch?

No idea. I imagine anyone with a P by their name that's still on the team made the postseason roster.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: ScotsFan on May 15, 2013, 06:11:57 pm
Looks like Keenan White of Wooster is going to join IWU's Jeff Johnson in picking up his first loss of the season as he has been tagged for 12 runs and he didn't make it out of the 6th.  Although, 7 of those 12 runs have been unearned as Wooster has committed 3 costly errors on the day?!   ???

Wooster was victimized by the big inning as they've been living on the big inning over their current win streak.  They're going to need a couple of big innings to get back in this one...
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: woosterbooster on May 15, 2013, 07:30:16 pm
Well, nice effort Wooster.  Special kudos to the pitcher that got nobody out and hit three guys.  If you didn't want to make the trip, you should have told the coach.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: old scot on May 15, 2013, 08:12:50 pm
WOO boo, you are unreal!!! First you bitch about The NCAC tourney being played in Chilli, then bitch that the regionals are being played at Rose Hulman. Do you want every game to be played in your backyard so you don't have to get off the porch????
Now, you blast the Scots for getting blown out in their first game. Do you think they went out to get an ass kicking? I think not but, that happens sometimes in baseball.
If you feel the need to be bitter about everything, take your retirement money to a casino, play the slots, and bitch that the machine is not paying off.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 09:00:15 pm
Thomas More certainly shut everyone up that was talking about how they didn't belong.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: woosterbooster on May 15, 2013, 09:23:35 pm
WOO boo, you are unreal!!! First you bitch about The NCAC tourney being played in Chilli, then bitch that the regionals are being played at Rose Hulman. Do you want every game to be played in your backyard so you don't have to get off the porch????
Now, you blast the Scots for getting blown out in their first game. Do you think they went out to get an ass kicking? I think not but, that happens sometimes in baseball.
If you feel the need to be bitter about everything, take your retirement money to a casino, play the slots, and bitch that the machine is not paying off.

As for the two tournament sites, do you not understand that all of the teams, and the fan bases, would be better served if they were geographically centered?  Sure makes sense to me.

As for blasting the Scots, I think Thomas More did a far better job than I did.  Likely that Coach Pettorini did also.  Try not to be bitter about other people's opinions.  Perhaps a trip to a casino would help you.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 09:34:06 pm
The best experience for the participants (on and off the field) IMO is more important than geography.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: ScotsFan on May 16, 2013, 12:00:12 am
The best experience for the participants (on and off the field) IMO is more important than geography.

And Terre Haute, IN fits that bill?   :P
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 16, 2013, 12:27:50 am
The best experience for the participants (on and off the field) IMO is more important than geography.

And Terre Haute, IN fits that bill?   :P

Never been to the facility, but it's generally gotten good reviews and has undergone continual improvements. I have very little doubt in Coach Jenkins' ability to run a fine tournament. The only thing I don't know is the quality of the pre-tournament events for the players and the community support for the event. That's where I don't think you can beat Marietta. Marietta's also probably the best destination town of the places ever likely to be considered -- , but Marietta can't have it every year (I suppose, I don't know why not though because it seems like Whitewater does).

I think the Series should never have left Marietta, but since it did, I have to say Appleton is a great site and wouldn't want to see it move except back to Marietta (which isn't likely). In the same vein, if the regional can't or isn't at Marietta, I have no problem with Rose-Hulman as a choice.

If someone has an idea for a better site than these two, they should bid with and then we'll see if the powers that be agree. I will say I don't think Chillicothe is any more than Canton was. There is one place I'm very surprised has never been bid (or I assume hasn't) but I don't want to give anyone any ideas for somewhere to have it other than Marietta so I'll keep it to myself. :)
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 16, 2013, 11:10:39 am
Mount and IL Wesleyan are tied 1-1 after 5 innings in the morning game. 
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Dr. Acula on May 16, 2013, 11:53:47 am
5-1 IL Wesleyan after 7.  Feel bad for Clarke.  1-1 game after 6, gets the lead off guy out and then loads the bases in the 7th, gets relieved and the pen doesn't record the 2nd out until all 3 of his runners scored.  Rough trip to IN for the bullpen and the bats. 
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: OshDude on May 16, 2013, 02:36:45 pm
Bids for most (99-ish percent) NCAA tournaments open in mid-July. The NCAA hopes the new process (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/latest+news/2013/may/bidding+for+championships+host+sites+to+be+finalized+by+december) will result in more institutions bidding to host. I do too. I have no doubt that the current hosts are great, but we could have used more bids to spread out the sites this baseball season.

http://ncaabids.azurewebsites.net/ (http://ncaabids.azurewebsites.net/)
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 16, 2013, 08:24:49 pm
Well, whatever went wrong with Marietta in the OAC tournament...safe to say it has been addressed and corrected.

9-0 after 2, just beating the ball all over the yard after jumping on a pretty good pitcher from Behrend last night.

Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 16, 2013, 08:29:21 pm
Can't wait for tomorrow night's game... should be a good between Manchester and Marietta.

No better time than tomorrow for Manchester to get their first head-to-head victory against the Express.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 16, 2013, 08:34:59 pm
the Etta Express is laying the wood to Thomas More early on; looks like the offense is rolling at the right time the last few days.  they lead 9-0 in the 2nd....if things hold up, tomorrow's winner's bracket final with Manchester could be a slugfest, which is always fun!!
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 16, 2013, 08:37:09 pm
Chris Winpigler has 5 RBIs in the first 3 innings. He wasn't even a starter until about 15 games ago...such is life as Alex Toth's backup lol.

EDIT TO ADD: another RBI. 6 in 5 innings now. 12-0. Mulvey still pitching for Marietta...believe he's faced one above the minimum and I'd doubt if he's thrown 40 pitches through 4.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 17, 2013, 11:06:22 am
Kudos to the seeding committee.  The top two seeds are the two undefeated teams, the first two teams going home are the bottom two seeds, and all the rest are 1-1.  Pretty rare to see a regional go so much to form.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: ScotsFan on May 17, 2013, 12:05:35 pm
Wooster finally puts up a crooked number in an inning for the first time since the 1st inning of their 1st game with TMC!  The Scots have put 3 across in the bottom of the 7th to break up a 2-2 tie with W&J and now lead 5-2 with 6 outs to play! 

And the errors continue to not only mount for Wooster but continue to be costly?!   :(  An error on what would have been an inning ending out allows W&J to load the bases and the next batter clears them for a game tying 3-run double in which all 3 runs were unearned...  :-\  And then the Presidents tack on another for good measure so now Wooster trails again 6-5.

That's now 9 errors in less than 3 games complete.  They had only committed 3 or more errors in three games all season long and this is now the 2nd game out of their 3 played so far in this regional that the Scots have committed 4 errors.  Bad time to leave their gloves at home...   ???
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 17, 2013, 01:31:15 pm
Come on someone win this...I got stuff to do before the Marietta game but want to see the end of this one! :)

Liller has been everywhere in this tournament for W&J.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 17, 2013, 03:25:02 pm
Wooster finally puts up a crooked number in an inning for the first time since the 1st inning of their 1st game with TMC!  The Scots have put 3 across in the bottom of the 7th to break up a 2-2 tie with W&J and now lead 5-2 with 6 outs to play! 

And the errors continue to not only mount for Wooster but continue to be costly?!   :(  An error on what would have been an inning ending out allows W&J to load the bases and the next batter clears them for a game tying 3-run double in which all 3 runs were unearned...  :-\  And then the Presidents tack on another for good measure so now Wooster trails again 6-5.

That's now 9 errors in less than 3 games complete.  They had only committed 3 or more errors in three games all season long and this is now the 2nd game out of their 3 played so far in this regional that the Scots have committed 4 errors.  Bad time to leave their gloves at home...   ???

That's how I felt when OWU played Wooster. Not sure it would have made a difference, but OWU had 2, 6 and 3 errors respectively in the three games they played Wooster. It did not help that we were walking guys either.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on May 17, 2013, 05:23:59 pm
TM ousts IWU, 10-6.  Mart Hart of the Titans was cruising along with a shutout and 3-0 lead through 5, but then the roof caved in.  Trailing 10-4 with 2 out in the bottom of the ninth, IWU did not go gently: the game ended with the bases loaded and the tying run at bat!
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 17, 2013, 07:40:16 pm
Manchester up 7-5, 2 in scoring position for Marietta in the 6th and Bryce Murphy coming in to replace Padgett on the mound.

Murphy threw 4 innings yesterday but was probably only around 50 pitches. He'll need to go almost as far today to secure a big win for the Spartans.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 17, 2013, 08:38:49 pm
Well, well, well....  those three wins should help Manchester's SOS.

Murphy, Niemann, and Marchant are All-Americans.

Gotta a really good team there.

Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 17, 2013, 08:51:49 pm
Well, Manchester is where they were last year...can they finish it out this time?
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Post by: motorman on May 17, 2013, 08:59:52 pm
Well, whatever went wrong with Marietta in the OAC tournament...safe to say it has been addressed and corrected.

9-0 after 2, just beating the ball all over the yard after jumping on a pretty good pitcher from Behrend last night.

What was wrong with them in the OAC Tournament was Otterbein.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 17, 2013, 09:03:51 pm
I don't think it was Otterbein as much as Marietta.

Otterbein's not as good as anyone in this regional.

Like Case Western in the regular season, Manchester is just a good team that was better today. They've been here before and they're experienced as a group.

I actually thought the committee was right to make them the 1 seed with how Marietta finished. They earned it and today they showed why they deserved it.

Lot of baseball yet to be played.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 17, 2013, 09:07:00 pm
Well, well, well....  those three wins should help Manchester's SOS.

Murphy, Niemann, and Marchant are All-Americans.

Gotta a really good team there.

that's the great thing about baseball...they had a great season against crappy competition (cantbe argued), were awarded with the #1 seed in the regional, and PROVED up to this point they deserved it. now they just need to play up to their seed and finish it to advance.

we'll see how tomorrow goes, but regardless, they have shown they have a very solid line-up and decent enough starting pitching, and a great closer, to be in the hunt for a national title.

enjoy it, for most schools the opportunity doesn't come along very often.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 17, 2013, 09:53:53 pm
The opportunity came along last year and Manchester ran out of pitching and was a deer in headlights against the all mighty Etta Express.  They should at least be able to out slug anyone this year if that's the case again.  Now that the mental block of playing Marietta is out of the way, they should be in a better state of mind going into tomorrow.
 
Don't be surprised if we see Murphy again at some point.  His arm apparently doesn't get fatigued, ever.

38-5-1(2-0 in the OAC) ain't bad.... even against the worst teams in the country.

Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 17, 2013, 10:38:03 pm
I'm sure Murphy will throw again tomorrow...but I'd still rather see him with 100 or whatever pitches on him in the last 2 days than not.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: motorman on May 18, 2013, 02:04:41 am
The opportunity came along last year and Manchester ran out of pitching and was a deer in headlights against the all mighty Etta Express.  They should at least be able to out slug anyone this year if that's the case again.  Now that the mental block of playing Marietta is out of the way, they should be in a better state of mind going into tomorrow.
 
Don't be surprised if we see Murphy again at some point.  His arm apparently doesn't get fatigued, ever.

38-5-1(2-0 in the OAC) ain't bad.... even against the worst teams in the country.

Not 2-0 in the OAC, more like 3-2. Guess you forgot about the only team to beat them twice, Heidelberg of the OAC.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 18, 2013, 08:31:20 am
Touche.  Heidelberg was early and those two games were one run losses that could've gone either way.

So is it better to beat the mediocre teams on your schedule or lose to good teams on your schedule?

SOS is overrated, that's all I'm saying.  You can't control how poorly the teams in your conference are in any particular year.  Historically, Anderson, Franklin, and RHIT have been 25-30 win teams....  it was just a down year for the HCAC aside from Manchester's dominance.


Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: mideastfan2 on May 18, 2013, 09:50:04 am
Touche.  Heidelberg was early and those two games were one run losses that could've gone either way.

So is it better to beat the mediocre teams on your schedule or lose to good teams on your schedule?

SOS is overrated, that's all I'm saying.  You can't control how poorly the teams in your conference are in any particular year.  Historically, Anderson, Franklin, and RHIT have been 25-30 win teams....  it was just a down year for the HCAC aside from Manchester's dominance.

In this case SOS is overrated because Manchester is a very good team, but in the majority of cases SOS, combined with a team's winning record through that schedule, is a good indicator of how good they are.

There are exceptions to everything, and Manchester is obviously an exception when it comes to SOS this year because they played such a bad schedule, but dominated...and probably would've done extremely well against a good schedule.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 18, 2013, 09:55:12 am
Hasbeen is acting like Manchester got slighted because of SOS. They were the top seed. There's no gripe here.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 18, 2013, 02:25:51 pm
Marietta eliminates Washington & Jefferson, 6-2.

Gotta give it up for W&J, they played well on short rest and no doubt tired legs after 28 innings yesterday. Marietta really took advantage of most of the opportunities they got. W&J pitcher Baird was very good in his first start of the year.

Marietta ace Jason Byers went the full 9 and now has allowed 3 runs in 17 innings with 2 wins in the regional.

Manchester has 2 to win 1 and go to Appleton...Marietta needs to win to make it to Sunday. Stop me if you've heard this before.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 18, 2013, 03:42:43 pm
I guess they made it legal this year to stand in the strike zone? If a pitch hits a guy in the strike zone, it's supposed to be a strike.

Pretty hard to pitch when you can't use the inner half because you'll hit the guy.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 18, 2013, 04:45:46 pm
Never seen guys actually allowed to stand close enough to the plate to be out of the batter's box. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 18, 2013, 05:07:55 pm
7-5 Manchester with Murphy coming on to close...stop me if you've heard this before.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 18, 2013, 05:13:24 pm
Talk about unlucky. Toth hits a screamer that turns into a lineout double play, Hopper narrowly misses a double down the line, and McCoy is out by an eyelash at first to end the inning.

What can you say...that's baseball.
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Post by: mideastfan2 on May 18, 2013, 05:33:11 pm
looks like Marietta will have to wait until next year, didnt quite have the pitching depth this year..great season and Congrats to the seniors on a great career. Two national titles and 4 regional championship games...well done, welcome to the fraternity!!

Best of luck to Manchester in Appleton! Great team and a great chance to win it...
enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 18, 2013, 05:37:27 pm
Congrats to Manchester. Bryce Murphy has to be MVP...he did absolutely everything on the mound and at the plate.

Outstanding year for Marietta considering all they lost from last year. Most of the innings they got in the regional were from guys that were not college pitchers last year (either freshmen or Brockmeier who rarely pitched). Hopefully Toth and Grilliot get their deserved rewards at the All-American banquet and Grilliot and Brockmeier could be Academic All-Americans.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: hasbeen123 on May 18, 2013, 05:43:03 pm
Bryce Murphy is a beast.

Manchester should be a top 4 seed in Appleton. 

Great season.  Coach Espeset has made this program elite (by Indiana baseball standards).

Even sweeter beating the mighty Express for the regional title.

Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 18, 2013, 05:44:35 pm
Bryce Murphy is a beast.

Manchester should be a top 4 seed in Appleton. 

There are no seeds. Manchester will play Stevens Point in I believe the 3rd game of the first day.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: ScotsFan on May 19, 2013, 10:04:25 am
Congrats to Manchester for winning the regional and good luck in Appleton!  Do the Mideast Region proud!
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on May 20, 2013, 09:07:05 am
I would like to also congratulate Manchester for winning the regional. On to Appleton. Good luck the rest of the way.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: EttaFan1 on May 20, 2013, 10:50:16 am
Congratulations to Manchester for their regional title.  Hope they play well in Appleton. 
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 21, 2013, 05:35:03 pm
(I suppose, I don't know why not though because it seems like Whitewater does).

Diving into this a little late but my understanding is nobody else bid on the Midwest. Jim and I were having a little discussion about that and we thought that perhaps the new stadium being built in St. Paul for the St. Paul Saints would be a nice place to host a regional. Hopefully the MIAC or one of its member institutions will put in a bid for the regional, but the stadium isn't expected to open until 2015.
Title: Re: BB: 2013 Regionals (Mideast)
Post by: forheavendial4999 on May 21, 2013, 05:49:09 pm
(I suppose, I don't know why not though because it seems like Whitewater does).

Diving into this a little late but my understanding is nobody else bid on the Midwest. Jim and I were having a little discussion about that and we thought that perhaps the new stadium being built in St. Paul for the St. Paul Saints would be a nice place to host a regional. Hopefully the MIAC or one of its member institutions will put in a bid for the regional, but the stadium isn't expected to open until 2015.

That wouldn't surprise me. I don't have a problem with the regional being at a consistent site if that's the best site (and by definition, only site = best site). If St. Paul did a good job supporting the event, promoting it, putting together strong corporate and community support to give the players what they deserve out of their experience there...then absolutely it would be great. Whitewater offers more flexibility but it's not like the committees are utilizing that anyway.

For the Mideast, I think the best sites have proven themselves to be Marietta and Rose-Hulman. And there's a certain symmetry there region-wise...Marietta being on the eastern end and RHIT on the western end. While I can see an argument for a northern regional to balance out, it doesn't seem like the Michigan rep goes to the Mideast very often these days anyway. Maybe another site will emerge to join that rotation, but lately it seems like those are the two best choices.

I think nationally it would have worked better this year if the South had been in Virginia since the Mideast wasn't in Marietta. If the Mideast had been in Marietta, you could have sent any of Bridgewater, Randolph-Macon or Methodist there, Huntingdon and Millsaps stay in Millington, Illinois Wesleyan goes with them, and then whatever else works...I don't know. Maybe they put Washington in, Thomas More maybe...you get the idea.