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Title: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on March 29, 2018, 01:02:52 pm
Early season thoughts for 2018....

The weather has been, as it usually is, awful. A few big league series this weekend - RIT/Union and Ithaca/St. John Fisher - hopefully will not be impacted by the rain/snow expected in upstate New York on Saturday/Sunday. Pretty sure though because of the holiday on Sunday that a lot of teams are looking at Friday/Saturday sets as opposed to the usual Saturday/Sunday.

Also downstate, NYU is 15-1 at last check and the Violets host perennial Pool B favorite Wash U this weekend at MCU Park in Brooklyn. Didn't realize these two were rained out in St Louis last year - thanks CespedesBBQ.

More thoughts after the weekend.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on April 02, 2018, 11:48:11 am
OK. I have no idea about NYU...but with that record one would assume they would be in the top 6.

I have no order, and, from looking at schedules and whatnot, it's almost impossible to separate these team...my 6:
NYU
Oswego St.
Cortland St.
St. John Fisher
Union
Ithaca

RIT, is also right there, they just haven't played many games...
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: sjfcards on April 02, 2018, 10:45:25 pm
Does anyone know why Jim Dawson is not pitching for Fisher this year? He is listed on the roster but has yet to pitch an inning.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 03, 2018, 04:22:14 pm
Three days into April, here is where I see the region right now.

1. Cortland
2. Oswego
3. St John Fisher
4. Union/RIT
5. NYU
6. Ithaca

After somewhat of a shaky start, Cortland has ripped off eight wins in a row with the last loss coming as part of a twin bill down south with Brockport. Overall, Cortland's pitching has been really good and three weekend starters all have ERA's under 2.50. Fourteen pitchers have made multiple appearances. The biggest number that jumps out to me is defense - C-State has a .980 fielding percentage compared to just .948 for opponents. Cortland has turned opponents poor fielding into runs with 33 unearned runs scored compared to just 13 given up. Red Dragons ranked in the top 10 nationally both in team ERA and fielding percentage. Cortland has league tests remaining on the road at New Paltz and Oswego back-to-back weekends to close the month but first must entertain Fredonia this weekend. 

Oswego, like Cortland, has won eight in row. The Lakers haven't lost since getting upended by Fredonia in the first game of a SUNYAC series on March 15 in Florida. The defending SUNYAC champs lost a lot from last year but continue to sail along against what is a top 20 national strength of schedule. Mike Dellicarri is having a monster season in filling the shoes of the departed Eric Hamilton already with 33 RBI; his 1.81 RBI/gm is second in Division III. Oswego has four regulars hitting .350 or higher. The Lakers are hitting 10 points as a team higher than the Red Dragons. Oswego's team ERA is a shade under four though Robert Donnelly, he of the fantastic head shot photo, and Reston Petit have done a good job topping the weekend rotation. Oswego heads to Oneonta this weekend and the Lakers also still must tangle with pesky Brockport.

St. John Fisher swept Ithaca in a doubleheader last Saturday to move to 5-1 in the Empire 8 after dropping the series opener. The Cardinals are 8-1 in their last nine games with the lone loss to Ithaca. Like Cortland and Oswego, Fisher played a challenging OOC schedule to start the season. SJFC's offense has already launched 17 home runs in 19 games, four batters have at least three home runs. It's a young but experienced Fisher team that returned more than 20 players from last year's NCAA outfit. Majority of Fisher's position player starters are sophomores though the big bopper is still Scott Eisenmenger who already has accumulated 22 RBI. Anthony Brophy has been solid as Fisher's ace and a pair of freshmen round out the conference rotation. It should be noted that Jim Dawson, a combined 15-3 through his first two years, has yet to make an appearance. The back end of Fisher's bullpen will also be a strength with two of three regulars sporting ERA's under 1.50.

It's hard to separate Union and RIT here as the two Liberty favorites split last weekend in Troy with RIT sweeping Friday's double dip and then bowing to the Dutchmen on Saturday. Neither team has played a lot. RIT has played 10 games, Union 12. Since getting back from Florida, RIT has only played four games - all against Union. Based on RIT's returning mound cast, the Orange and Black are still among the Liberty favorites with a deep pitching staff. The Tigers also played UMASS Boston tough in Florida. Union meanwhile is hitting the ball extremely well though again, as with RIT, it's a small sample size. Union is home this weekend against an always tough Clarkson team while RIT goes to Bard.

NYU is off to its best start in program history at now 16-4. I'm hesitant to put NYU higher here just because the Violets SOS is 304. Still, the Violets have been impressive overall against the teams on their schedule. NYU won 12 in a row to start the season before splitting with Haverford at home. NYU has six regulars hitting .300 or better and three of those hitters have at least 26 RBI led by Coltrane Tait. The most eye-popping number is NYU's OBP at .448. The Violets have drawn 112 walks already and have nearly an even BB:K ratio through 20 games. Pitching wise, the Violets have been really good too with the staff having compiled a 2.56 ERA. Carmine Serapilio-Frank has won five of his six starts and is among the top 25 nationally in ERA (.89). The next three weeks will tell a little more about NYU as they'll be on the road at RPI and then UAA foes Case Western and Brandeis.

Ithaca took out St. John Fisher last Friday but dropped a Saturday double dip in Pittsford to fall back to .500. Ithaca has a lot of pieces back from last year's NCAA tournament team which at least projects them into my rankings. The Bombers, topped the Little brothers, and have depth in the starting pitching rotation with five potential starters though the Bombers are 2-4 in the E8 after facing Stevens and St. John Fisher on back-to-back weekends. With the Ducks and Cardinals in the rear view mirror, the schedule becomes more favorable in April.

After that, Brockport from the SUNYAC is lurking as well as RPI. Downstate, the Skyline has been beating up on itself. Merchant Marine has the best record of any league team at 17-3 and 5-1 in the conference. St. Joseph's (L.I.) split with Merchant Marine this past weekend. Conference favorite Maritime is 4-2 in the league and in fifth place based on winning percentage.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on April 05, 2018, 10:20:45 am
Well how can one dispute any of that analysis??  I think when all is said and done, it will be the same characters in the regionals.  It would be nice to see most of the teams stay but that won't happen. 
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 10, 2018, 03:49:15 pm
Well how can one dispute any of that analysis??  I think when all is said and done, it will be the same characters in the regionals.  It would be nice to see most of the teams stay but that won't happen.

I'm fine with some of the top teams being sent elsewhere as the top teams have shown they can very much compete and win in at other regional sites. The NCAA tournament is more of a national tournament now than in years past . Besides, New York is smaller compared to some of the other regions in the northeastern US - i.e. New England and Mid-Atlantic. It is only natural that some of those teams get sent to New York.

On your other point, I'm 100% with wanting to see some diversity in terms of power teams in the region. Though I feel like the balance of power has shifted in recent years from what was a troika of Ithaca-Cortland-RPI moving to Cortland-St. John Fisher-Oswego. Given Brandon Potter & Scott Landers a lot of credit for creating consistent winners that can compete on the national stage. I think it's up to other schools to get better so that they can challenge the top tier teams.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 10, 2018, 03:51:53 pm
Heading into today's big non-conference tilts, not much has changed IMO.

1. Cortland
2. Oswego
3. St John Fisher
4. NYU
5. Union
6. Ithaca

I'll update this with thoughts later. That said, it's a big week for Oswego. The Lakers have Fisher at home today and then will host Brockport this weekend. NYU continues to roll and after a sweep of RPI in Troy with a lot of offense, I think the Violets could make a run at the NCAA tournament. They still have Case and Emory on their schedule.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on April 10, 2018, 09:36:47 pm
After doing a little research i will go with this order taking todays games into account
1. Cortland
2. St john fisher
3. Nyu
4. Oswego
5. Union
6. Stevens

Nyu on strength of decisive sweep at rpi
Fisher on head to head at oswego and overall strength of schedule
Stevens on taking 2 of 3 from ithaca
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 11, 2018, 09:08:06 am
After doing a little research i will go with this order taking todays games into account
1. Cortland
2. St john fisher
3. Nyu
4. Oswego
5. Union
6. Stevens

Nyu on strength of decisive sweep at rpi
Fisher on head to head at oswego and overall strength of schedule
Stevens on taking 2 of 3 from ithaca

Agreed on flipping Fisher and Oswego after yesterday's game. Will say that I'm still partial to Dellicarri in the POY race but that's another topic for another time. I still like Ithaca's pitching long term and IC beat a very good Redlands team on the road. Stevens certainly in the conversation in the next group along with Merchant Marine, St. Joseph's (LI), a couple Liberty teams, etc.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: jdex on April 11, 2018, 11:12:47 am
IMO ......

    All about pitching as far as rankings. And when teams face opposition top hurlers, and when it's a good time to use them. For sure winning a conference automatic bid is foremost. That said, going up against strong out of conference team and having success also figures, though not as much as the automatic bid trail.

   Having a deep, reliable  staff of utmost importance ....

   Still favor Cortland and Oswego 1-2 followed interchangeably by NYU and Fisher, then whoever.
   Oswego has certainly shown a lot of offense to go with veteran mound staff. Coach Landers certainly has to be concerned with his defense. Cortland as usual took its time finding its way. Plenty of lineup shifting early and short showcasing stints on the pitching side. Coach Brown now as shown set lineup and a pitching rotation. It's the way he works. Can't argue much with the results.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on April 11, 2018, 12:35:20 pm
Honestly, I would consider Fisher at 1.  I know this is blasphemy lol, but, they haven't played Wells, Cazanovia, etc...not league here in NY.  Both Fisher and Cortland played challenging southern schedules...as did Oswego.  Would be nice to see these teams play more often. Cortland with non-league vs. Elmira and Canton coming up, not exactly the giants of the NY region.  Fisher vs. Cortland should be an annual game.  Let's hope all the NY region gets another year of good representation in the NCAA
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 12, 2018, 01:55:27 pm
Honestly, I would consider Fisher at 1.  I know this is blasphemy lol, but, they haven't played Wells, Cazanovia, etc...not league here in NY.  Both Fisher and Cortland played challenging southern schedules...as did Oswego.  Would be nice to see these teams play more often. Cortland with non-league vs. Elmira and Canton coming up, not exactly the giants of the NY region.  Fisher vs. Cortland should be an annual game.  Let's hope all the NY region gets another year of good representation in the NCAA

It would be nice if Fisher and Cortland played a little more often but it is what it is. SOS for all three schools - Cortland, Fisher, Oswego, is top 100 out of nearly 400 Division III baseball playing schools. Goal for all three teams is an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament as a Pool A and to get that, you have to win your conference. Outside of that, play whom you want though deal with the consequences of said scheduling.

Will say that Cortland has big road tests coming up to close the month at New Paltz and Oswego plus a key non-league home date with Rochester. Fisher meanwhile has to worry about Stevens this weekend plus a few games with local foe RIT. I do like Fisher aggressively scheduling Mid-Atlantic heavyweight Keystone right before the conference tournament. There's always a good possibility the Giants will be sent to New York as well come NCAA time.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 13, 2018, 06:30:43 pm
Well how can one dispute any of that analysis??  I think when all is said and done, it will be the same characters in the regionals.  It would be nice to see most of the teams stay but that won't happen.
I do like Pool A's to stay in region as best as possible and move the Pool C's out to another. That helps give us a flavor of the relative strengths of the conferences and regions.  The travel distances are really conducive to shuffling the regions in the NY/NE/ME/MA area. There are so many Pool A's in the Northeast that it makes sense to move some teams southward and westward for Regionals.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 14, 2018, 01:14:08 pm
Well how can one dispute any of that analysis??  I think when all is said and done, it will be the same characters in the regionals.  It would be nice to see most of the teams stay but that won't happen.
I do like Pool A's to stay in region as best as possible and move the Pool C's out to another. That helps give us a flavor of the relative strengths of the conferences and regions.  The travel distances are really conducive to shuffling the regions in the NY/NE/ME/MA area. There are so many Pool A's in the Northeast that it makes sense to move some teams southward and westward for Regionals.

I would favor a rule that if your x miles (lets make it an hours drive or 50 miles) that you have to go to that regional.  I also would not have a team drive past a regional to get to another.  Lets let these young men play in front of a crowd.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 14, 2018, 08:51:40 pm
Well how can one dispute any of that analysis??  I think when all is said and done, it will be the same characters in the regionals.  It would be nice to see most of the teams stay but that won't happen.
I do like Pool A's to stay in region as best as possible and move the Pool C's out to another. That helps give us a flavor of the relative strengths of the conferences and regions.  The travel distances are really conducive to shuffling the regions in the NY/NE/ME/MA area. There are so many Pool A's in the Northeast that it makes sense to move some teams southward and westward for Regionals.

I would favor a rule that if your x miles (lets make it an hours drive or 50 miles) that you have to go to that regional. I also would not have a team drive past a regional to get to another.  Lets let these young men play in front of a crowd.
Yes, Jim. Common sense.  +1!
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Caz Bombers on April 15, 2018, 07:54:31 pm
is Ithaca baseball staying in the E8 long-term or are they moving to the LL this summer? I've heard conflicting reports.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: jdex on April 15, 2018, 09:29:26 pm
is Ithaca baseball staying in the E8 long-term or are they moving to the LL this summer? I've heard conflicting reports.

As we understand it, Ithaca remains in the Empire 8 in baseball as affiliate member
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 16, 2018, 01:12:52 pm
is Ithaca baseball staying in the E8 long-term or are they moving to the LL this summer? I've heard conflicting reports.

From what I understand, Ithaca joins the Liberty League for baseball next spring.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 16, 2018, 01:20:19 pm
Welp... that was an interesting weekend. Cortland, Stevens and Union in their respective catbird seats after some slightly surprising league results and NYU took one of four from #11 Case in Cleveland. I think Stevens certainly played itself into the rankings. Not sure what to make of Oswego and Fisher results but the good news is that there's still lots of baseball left.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: jdex on April 16, 2018, 04:44:43 pm
is Ithaca baseball staying in the E8 long-term or are they moving to the LL this summer? I've heard conflicting reports.

From what I understand, Ithaca joins the Liberty League for baseball next spring.

From a July '17 IC release ......but may have changed re baseball after this season??

The Liberty League currently sponsors 27 championship sports. Fall sports include cross country (m/w), field hockey, football, soccer (m/w), volleyball (w). Winter sports include basketball (m/w), squash (m/w), swimming & diving (m/w) and indoor track & field (m/w). Spring sports include baseball, golf (m/w), lacrosse (m/w), rowing (m/w), softball, tennis (m/w) and outdoor track and field (m/w). Ithaca will compete in all sports with the exception of men's golf and squash as the institution does not sponsor those sports. Also, the IC baseball program will remain in the Empire 8 as an affiliate member
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 17, 2018, 10:42:10 am
In regards to Ithaca finding a permanent home, I always thought the 7 team limit for auto bids was, well odd.  Six sounds like a better number but I would also suggest another alternative, if a conference has been established for a long enough period, they can get a waiver.  Such as the CUNYAC having been around for 40 years getting access instead of adding schools like Finlandia to hit the 7 team limit.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 17, 2018, 12:07:04 pm
In regards to Ithaca finding a permanent home, I always thought the 7 team limit for auto bids was, well odd.  Six sounds like a better number but I would also suggest another alternative, if a conference has been established for a long enough period, they can get a waiver.  Such as the CUNYAC having been around for 40 years getting access instead of adding schools like Finlandia to hit the 7 team limit.

SUNY Canton recently announced a move to the North Athletic Conference for next year. This would drop the E8 to five baseball teams with Ithaca going to the Liberty - St John Fisher, Utica, Elmira, Stevens and Houghton.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on April 19, 2018, 10:26:48 am
Fisher has to run table now and beat Stevens in make up to host.  Looks like New Jersey is the destination for this tournament.  Stevens, can pitch.  Cortland and Union look solid.  Updated Region rankings...for me

1. Cortland
2. NYU
3. Stevens, Fisher (still think Fisher is a bit better and strength of schedule)
4. Oswego
5. Union
6. Ithaca or Brockport...maybe RIT.  Still too many games left to play.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on April 23, 2018, 03:15:42 pm
when does the first regional ranking come out?  Here is my updated guess after research:
1. Cortland...not by as much though as most...awful ny non conference SOS 28-7
2. St. John Fisher (SOS off the chart) 21-9
3. Oswego 21-8
4. Stevens  20-14
5. Union (could move up but the league isn't as good as the other 2) 21-6
6. NYU 25-8

Strength of schedule is the basis for these rankings.  Fisher ahead of Oswego per the head to head.  Stevens has 14 losses and a couple of bad ones so they drop a little.  Union could go up I guess, did beat Stevens Point in Florida but to be honest I don't know enough about them.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 23, 2018, 03:26:42 pm
This past weekend may have been, if I'm not mistaken, the first nice weather weekend all season. It only took until the third weekend of April. Hopefully the dry weather trend will continue into this weekend with a huge series between Cortland and Oswego on tap for the Port City.

1. Cortland - The 20-game winning streak came to an end but the Red Dragons entered the weekend 2nd in Division III in team ERA and 6th in fielding percentage. The loss to New Paltz on Sunday marked the first time since March 14 that Cortland has conceded five or more runs. Should Cortland drop the series to Oswego this weekend, Cortland's SOS (190) could come into play in terms of being sent out of region.

2. St John Fisher - Overall body of work strong for the Cardinals despite dropping two to Stevens. If it were just head-to-head, I'd put the Ducks over the Cardinals but Fisher has an SOS of 33. Fisher is doing it with offense - 30 home runs as a team. Scott Eisenmenger has a 10 game hit streak and five home runs in those games.

3. Oswego - Very similar to St. John Fisher with a strong resume despite conceding two of three to Brockport. Oswego's pitching has been strong with the mound men carving out a 3:1 strikeout-to-walk ratio. No pitcher has walked more than 10 men overall. Key game for the Lakers on Tuesday against Ithaca on Tuesday. Should be noted Oswego and Fisher will play a second game this year and that will be on May 1 at Fisher.

T4. Stevens - The Ducks lead the Empire 8 with an 11-3 record which contains a sweep at St John Fisher. However, Stevens is hurt by a 9-11 non-conference record. Stevens helped itself by beating a perennial Mid-Atlantic power in Misericordia but then split with SUNY Oneonta at home this past weekend. A rain-out makeup with St John Fisher in early May could determine who hosts the league tournament. The Ducks have a great 1-2 at the top of their rotation with Charlie Ruegger and Danny Poidomani.

T4. NYU - With no conference tournament to play in, NYU will close its regular season this coming weekend at home versus Emory. The Violets won their opener at Case a few weekends ago but fell in the overall series then bounced back with four wins in five outings total in games with John Jay & Brandeis. NYU's big three offensively of Coleman Hendershot, Jonathan Iaione and Coltrane Tait are absolutely mashing the baseball with Hendershot flirting with a .400 batting average, 60+ RBI season. Unfortunately NYU is hurt by its SOS (314). Don't think NYU will snag a Pool B bid but could possibly claim a Pool C bid if it can take care of business versus Emory.

6. Union - Since returning from Florida, the Dutchmen are 15-4. Union is currently a half game out of first in the Liberty. As a team, the Dutchmen are batting .360 with six swingers at .398 or higher. Jack Koch is hitting an astounding .494 albeit with just 79 at bats. Union has Vassar this weekend in a key series with the Brewers in third in the compact Liberty League. Union also closes with RPI in a home-and-home.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2018, 09:31:49 pm
when does the first regional ranking come out?  Here is my updated guess after research:
1. Cortland...not by as much though as most...awful ny non conference SOS 28-7
2. St. John Fisher (SOS off the chart) 21-9
3. Oswego 21-8
4. Stevens  20-14
5. Union (could move up but the league isn't as good as the other 2) 21-6
6. NYU 25-8

Strength of schedule is the basis for these rankings.  Fisher ahead of Oswego per the head to head.  Stevens has 14 losses and a couple of bad ones so they drop a little.  Union could go up I guess, did beat Stevens Point in Florida but to be honest I don't know enough about them.
This Thursday.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 24, 2018, 08:33:16 am
I don't think we will see too much deviation from our guesses just based on past history. Maybe a downstate team from the Skyline slides in towards the bottom. Ithaca and Rochester are the closest among the upstate teams on the outside looking in and they'll play a home-and-home this week weather permitting. Unless someone can go on a run in these last few weeks, I'm thinking we'll see a combination of NJAC frontrunners TCNJ/Rowan/Ramapo headed for Auburn as a 1 or 2 seed. Toss Keystone in that group as well plus another team or two from New England or the Mideast.

On a side note, with the CSAC dropping to five teams, if I'm the Empire 8, I'd be looking at Keystone as a possible affiliate member.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on April 26, 2018, 10:07:32 am
My updated NY ratings (after the release of info. on SOS)
1. Cortland (barely), if they lose the conference tourny...will they get in? SOS is startling
2. SJFC (opposite of Cortland)
3. Union (Good record, climbing a bit for me)
4. Oswego
5. Stevens
6. Ithaca or NYU

Dr. McGraw is correct with the most likely scenario of someone shipping in.  Keystone is interesting.  They play at Fisher at end of season, cool game before conference tournaments.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on April 26, 2018, 03:25:30 pm
First rankings are out...

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3/regional-rankings

NEW YORK   
1   St. John Fisher   
2   SUNY Cortland   
3   Oswego State   
4   Stevens Institute of Technology   
5   Union (New York)   
6   Ithaca   
7   New York University   
8   St. Joseph's (Long Island)   
9   Farmingdale State   

Based on SOS, no surprise that St. John Fisher is ahead of Cortland. Red Dragons didn't help themselves either by dropping back-to-back games to New Paltz and Hamilton. Cortland SOS will get a bump this weekend with games against Oswego.

I'm a little surprised Ithaca is over NYU however again, SOS and OWP & OOWP likely playing a big role.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on April 26, 2018, 04:12:42 pm
Well said John.  Big weekend in the YAC. 
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: sjfcards on April 27, 2018, 09:01:21 pm
First rankings are out...

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3/regional-rankings

NEW YORK   
1   St. John Fisher   
2   SUNY Cortland   
3   Oswego State   
4   Stevens Institute of Technology   
5   Union (New York)   
6   Ithaca   
7   New York University   
8   St. Joseph's (Long Island)   
9   Farmingdale State   

Based on SOS, no surprise that St. John Fisher is ahead of Cortland. Red Dragons didn't help themselves either by dropping back-to-back games to New Paltz and Hamilton. Cortland SOS will get a bump this weekend with games against Oswego.

I'm a little surprised Ithaca is over NYU however again, SOS and OWP & OOWP likely playing a big role.

I was surprised to see Fisher over Cortland, as Cortland had the 20 game win streak and does (and should) typically get the benefit of the doubt. SOS must really be helping Fisher. A couple of big weekends left for the E8. Cortland wrapped up the SUNYAC regular season title today. Should be a fun couple of weeks.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on April 30, 2018, 10:46:59 am
Check out Hero Sports Sjfcards.  They do a nice job of ranking teams there by all available analysis.  It's a solid poll.  Fisher was 18th in the country in that one..Cortland was 10 (they can pitch) and Oswego was down the list which currently makes sense...but they were still there. 
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Jim Dixon on April 30, 2018, 10:52:45 pm
Check out Hero Sports Sjfcards.  They do a nice job of ranking teams there by all available analysis.  It's a solid poll.  Fisher was 18th in the country in that one..Cortland was 10 (they can pitch) and Oswego was down the list which currently makes sense...but they were still there.

The SOS is what the NCAA uses:

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2018/schedule?tmpl=sos-template
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 01, 2018, 09:11:20 am
Aware of that jim. I just thought this was a cool site that did good work. Nice to see attention like this put into d3 ball.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: OldBallsHenry on May 02, 2018, 12:16:51 am
What methodology does Hero Sports use?
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 02, 2018, 09:48:31 am
After yesterday's games, this is how I see it stacking up.

1. Cortland
2. St John Fisher
3. Oswego
4. Stevens
5. Ithaca
6. Union
7. Farmingdale
8. NYU
9. St Joseph's (LI)

St John Fisher can help itself with games upcoming against RIT, Stevens and Keystone (DH) before the Empire 8 tournament. I have said it before but I really like Brandon Potter's aggressive scheduling. One takeaway I have for the Cardinals from yesterday is that Scott Eisenmenger did not play. He was hit by a pitch in the series finale against Houghton in his first at bat and was out the rest of the game. Fisher still scored 12 runs without him but they'll need him healthy going forward. Huge loss if he is out for any length of time.

Oswego, like St John Fisher, has a very good SOS and OWP. The Lakers resume is solid with early season wins over now regionally ranked Va. Wesleyan, Southern Maine and Wartburg.  And you can add in yesterday's victory against a regionally ranked SJFC. A strong showing in the SUNYAC tournament should round out Oswego's resume nicely.

Cortland helped itself immensely with two wins at Oswego this last week. Red Dragons now host the conference tournament at home where they are 16-0 this spring; conversely 8-5 in true road games and 6-3 at a neutral site. As the committee however showed, SOS and OWP are extremely important and the numbers still are a little sluggish. In terms of wins against non NY regionally ranked teams, Cortland won twice at Salisbury to start the year and also has a win over Rutgers-Camden.  Cortland will get a boost if it gets another game or two against Oswego. However, if the Red Dragons fail to win the conference tournament, they could be in trouble depending on how St. John Fisher and/or Stevens does.

Stevens keeps chugging along and the Ducks outlasted Scranton last night under the lights. The Ducks travel to Fisher on Friday for a rain out make up and added a conference tournament tune-up with NYU for Monday. Stevens 8-1 in its last nine. Overall resume for Stevens is OK with the SOS a solid 114. The Ducks have non-NY region wins over Hopkins and Misericordia. Stevens sets up nicely and more games against St John Fisher will only help build SOS. They'll also have a tough match-up in their tournament opener next week against Houghton's ace.

Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 03, 2018, 12:52:17 pm
This seems about right.  Conference tournaments are interesting this year.  Still not quite sure what to think of Union. 
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 04, 2018, 09:27:54 am
New rankings out yesterday. No surprises.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3/regional-rankings

1   SUNY Cortland      
2   St. John Fisher      
3   Oswego State      
4   Stevens Institute of Technology
5   Ithaca      
6   Union (New York)      
7   Farmingdale State      
8   St. Joseph's (Long Island)   
9   New York University      

Cortland vs Oswego (SUNYAC tournament) and St John Fisher vs Stevens (rain make up) today weather permitting. Potentially another Cortland vs Oswego game later this weekend if both advance to the championship round of the SUNYAC tournament.

Farmingdale and St. Joseph's (LI) both are in the Skyline tournament today.

The Liberty League concludes its regular season schedule this weekend with rivalry match-ups. Each series will have a playoff impact in terms of the conference tournament -- RPI vs Union, Rochester vs RIT, Bard vs Vassar, St Lawrence vs Clarkson
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 07, 2018, 09:24:03 am
New York Region - Pool A Auto Bids

Empire 8 - TBD (Stevens, St John Fisher, Ithaca, Houghton)
Liberty League - (Rochester, Union, Vassar, RIT, RPI)
Skyline - St. Joseph's (Long Island)
SUNYAC - Oswego State

Possible Pool C At-Large Bids

SUNY Cortland
Stevens/St John Fisher/Ithaca
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 07, 2018, 10:59:13 am
Cortland should be safe but that god awful SOS...ouch.  I really believe that hurt them in regards to the tournament because Oswego is a whole different world from Elmira, Wells, Canton etc...

Ithaca has no shot for a Pool C.  Record isn't good enough and the wins they picked up this week were against teams that hurt their profile.

I think Fisher still has a shot, they did beat a very good Keystone team (split) and although Stevens swept them, the SOS again comes into play.  26-14 for Fisher is on the edge.  They need to make the championship game in my opinion but of course it comes down form holding elsewhere. 
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 07, 2018, 11:47:14 am
Cortland's SOS is up to 132. OWP is a little worse, 156, but not horrid. The SOS number made a big jump in the last two weeks with five games against Oswego. The Red Dragons can further bolster their SOS by adding a game or two this week if they want to and it is logistically possible though it's late and also finals time in the Northeast at a lot of schools. However, as I said on Twitter, Cortland likely has done enough to get into the NCAA tournament as an at-large. Their biggest issues will be pitching depth as we saw in SUNYACs and hitting the ace or frontline starters of other teams.

Both Oswego and Fisher are in the top 40 in SOS though Fisher nearly had a disastrous week. A 12-run eighth against Keystone in the night cap of Saturday's twin bill provided a good win over a regionally ranked team and a top 100 SOS school.

Ithaca's SOS is rough but being ranked 5th in the region still merits an outside shot albeit a long one. Playing at least St. John Fisher next weekend and possibly Stevens will help. IMO Ithaca has to get to the championship round of Empire 8 tournament though to realistically be in the conversation.

Fisher likely is in the NCAA tournament regardless and Stevens, depending on what happens this weekend, may have a solid case.

Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 07, 2018, 01:08:04 pm
This...I cannot argue with LOL.  What are your thoughts on Union?
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 07, 2018, 04:02:05 pm
This...I cannot argue with LOL.  What are your thoughts on Union?

Not great after this past week but I still think they're a regionally ranked team. Hurt themselves by dropping games against both Trinity and Middlebury, neither of which made the NESCAC tournament field. Then, Union got swept by RPI on Saturday. Bounced back to grab second in the Liberty with a sweep on Sunday but I'm not sold on them. The record is really good overall though. I like Union's chances in the conference tournament though the conference is really tight so who knows what will happen in Rochester.

Union's SOS is 288, well below what ideally one should have. Compared to Ithaca, Union is about 100 spots lower. Looking at both Ithaca and Union, Ithaca has marquee wins over Redlands, Oswego, St. John Fisher and Stevens as well as a win over regionally ranked St. Josephs' (Long Island). Union has a win over UW Stevens Point. Both have some bad losses as well.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 10, 2018, 11:21:08 pm
Last published regional rankings were released today by the NCAA. St. Joseph's (LI) and Oswego State have already clinched NCAA tournament automatic bids.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d3

   New York      
1.   SUNY Cortland   
2.   Oswego State   
3.   Stevens Institute of Technology   
4.   St. John Fisher   
5.   Ithaca   
6.   Union (New York)
7.   St. Joseph's (Long Island)   
8.   Farmingdale State   
9.   Merchant Marine   
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Bombers798891 on May 11, 2018, 10:37:57 am
Huge win for the Bombers yesterday, battering the Cardinals 17-11. Ithaca staged a stunning rally, scoring 8 runs in the 7th inning, all with two outs.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Caz Bombers on May 12, 2018, 09:44:13 pm
Ithaca and Union punched their tickets today after long dramatic days of baseball.

I assume Cortland is a mortal lock for Pool C and let's keep our fingers crossed for Fisher and/or Stevens to get in as well.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 13, 2018, 09:07:45 am
I think fisher still has a shot.  Their sos is really a no brainer and with 29 wins will be an interesting team to discuss.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 13, 2018, 10:23:46 am
Pool A
Empire 8 - Ithaca
Liberty League - Union
Skyline - St. Joseph's (LI)
SUNYAC - Oswego

Pool C
Empire 8 - Stevens/St John Fisher
SUNYAC - Cortland

In the last regional rankings that were released, Cortland was slotted first and Oswego second. Based on the fact that neither team played this weekend, I gather those two will not change and that Cortland will be a one seed in Auburn. Cortland 7-5 vs regionally ranked teams (final published rankings), Oswego was 8-9 against regionally ranked opponents.

Does St. John Fisher jump Stevens in the rankings? I think one of the two may get in, depending on the national picture, but probably not both as the region as a whole is not strong enough for one conference to grab three bids. That said, another league, the NJAC, may very well get three teams into the NCAA tournament as it has three teams in the top 20 SOS - Rowan, TCNJ and Ramapo. Rutgers Camden may also have a shot. Rowan will be the NJAC's Pool A entrant.

Comparing St. John Fisher & Stevens
*In final published regional rankings, Stevens 3, St John Fisher 4
Record: St. John Fisher 29-16, Stevens 26-17
Head-to-Head: Stevens 3-1
SOS: St. John Fisher 28, Stevens 81
Record vs Regionally-Ranked: St John Fisher 9-14, Stevens 8-7*
*Also went 1-1 against previously ranked William Paterson and NYU. NYU was ranked for a while before falling out last week.
*Stevens finished the season 7-3 in its last 10, St. John Fisher went 5-5.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 13, 2018, 02:55:55 pm
After researching it more i believe fisher is a lock. With a sos of 22 on the ncaa site and 29 wins they actually could be a 3 seed somewhere.  The ncaa has said to play tough schedules...and they have. Cortland was at 155, and based on what they played non league, honestly should also be on the bubble at beat. But, i would imagine history will help them. Stevens most likely wont be considered. My personal opinion but the numbers are certainly in fishers favor
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Bombers798891 on May 14, 2018, 10:00:17 am
Posted without comment:

In Ithaca's four games in the E8 tournament, there were 18 HRs hit. In the 7 games total, there were 23 HRs
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 14, 2018, 11:07:06 am
Wow, the field and the committee certainly fooled me lol.
1. When was the last time two teams had a top 25 schedule and 29 wins and did not get in?  If I am Case Western And Fisher, I have to wonder this aloud
2. Cortland...a 1? Thank god they played Oswego 5 times in the last couple of weeks or the SOS really would have been a joke. With an SOS in the 150's this was shocking.  Honestly, per previous seasons and a great D3 podcast...I honestly thought they were a bubble team.  If I am a team like Fisher, maybe I don't schedule Keystone, Kean, etc...load up on Wells, Alfred St., Caz, etc... Also, Oswego gets shipped as does the other top NY teams.  so much for proximity concerns.  This was a bigger surprise to me than the two teams above not getting in.

Odd.  I defer to Dr. John Mcgraw to rebut this LOL.  If Cortland is a 1, St. Johns of Minn. who had as many wins and less losses with a similar SOS, also has a legitimate claim.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2018, 11:49:17 am
Wow, the field and the committee certainly fooled me lol.
1. When was the last time two teams had a top 25 schedule and 29 wins and did not get in?  If I am Case Western And Fisher, I have to wonder this aloud
2. Cortland...a 1? Thank god they played Oswego 5 times in the last couple of weeks or the SOS really would have been a joke. With an SOS in the 150's this was shocking.  Honestly, per previous seasons and a great D3 podcast...I honestly thought they were a bubble team.  If I am a team like Fisher, maybe I don't schedule Keystone, Kean, etc...load up on Wells, Alfred St., Caz, etc... Also, Oswego gets shipped as does the other top NY teams.  so much for proximity concerns.  This was a bigger surprise to me than the two teams above not getting in.

Odd.  I defer to Dr. John Mcgraw to rebut this LOL.  If Cortland is a 1, St. Johns of Minn. who had as many wins and less losses with a similar SOS, also has a legitimate claim.
St John's had a SOS of #171 and were only 2-3 against regionally ranked teams.

To get into Pool C conversation once they were at the table, a team needed to have an SOS of better than about 70 and to have played at least 10 to 15 games against regionally ranked opponents.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 14, 2018, 12:04:39 pm
Fair enough Ralph, then, how does that explain Cortland?  155 SOS.  And, Fisher for instance led the country in games against region ranked teams?  Confusing
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2018, 12:28:29 pm
Fair enough Ralph, then, how does that explain Cortland?  155 SOS.  And, Fisher for instance led the country in games against region ranked teams?  Confusing
If you read the Mock Selection that Jim wrote, Cortland was on the table and passed over for the first 11 rounds. They had a 7-5 record against regionally ranked opponents, so the weakness in the SUNYAC and other non-conference games was offset.

By my quick review, Cortland went 2-0 against Salisbury, Roanoke 0-1, Camden 1-0; JHU 0-1; Ithaca 1-0; Oswego 3-2.

Thanks for the question.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 14, 2018, 12:36:49 pm
That certainly comes into play and I have no problem with the Dragons being in...a one seed was a shock to me though.  Thanks Ralph!
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 14, 2018, 12:49:56 pm
Wow, the field and the committee certainly fooled me lol.
1. When was the last time two teams had a top 25 schedule and 29 wins and did not get in?  If I am Case Western And Fisher, I have to wonder this aloud
2. Cortland...a 1? Thank god they played Oswego 5 times in the last couple of weeks or the SOS really would have been a joke. With an SOS in the 150's this was shocking.  Honestly, per previous seasons and a great D3 podcast...I honestly thought they were a bubble team.  If I am a team like Fisher, maybe I don't schedule Keystone, Kean, etc...load up on Wells, Alfred St., Caz, etc... Also, Oswego gets shipped as does the other top NY teams.  so much for proximity concerns.  This was a bigger surprise to me than the two teams above not getting in.

Odd.  I defer to Dr. John Mcgraw to rebut this LOL.  If Cortland is a 1, St. Johns of Minn. who had as many wins and less losses with a similar SOS, also has a legitimate claim.

Fisher went 9-14 against regionally ranked opponents and produced a strong strength of schedule. While the number of games is large and nine wins is good, the record is under .500 and there are double-digit losses. Heading into the conference tournament, Fisher closed the regular season 5-5 in its last 10 games with a 1-4 record in the final week. And while Fisher beat Stevens in the conference tournament, the Cardinals also lost twice to Ithaca which began the week lower in the regional rankings. St. John Fisher also had a losing record versus Stevens overall, 1-3.

In terms of common opponents, Cortland was 3-2 against Oswego while Fisher went 1-1. Cortland was 1-0 against Ithaca, Fisher went 2-3 (EDIT - 3-3). Both beat Canton, Elmira and Rochester. Outside of the region, Fisher beat Johns Hopkins while Cortland lost to JHU.

It should be noted that Cortland was 7-5 in games against regionally ranked opponents. Cortland also went 8-2 in its final 10 games and was 26-5 in its final 31 games between the regular season and the conference tournament.

Keep in mind, this isn't a head-to-head decision for the committee between Cortland and Fisher. In the regional rankings prior to this weekend, Cortland was first and Fisher was fourth. Fisher was in the mix against other teams around the nation not just teams in the region. Stronger conferences ended up taking multiple bids (NJAC, OAC, ASC) and some upsets kept out teams that in other years may have gotten into the tournament. Offhand, a result such as Concordia (Chicago) not winning the NACC tournament and taking up a Pool C selection could have knocked Fisher out.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 14, 2018, 01:08:53 pm
John, I am not comparing Fisher and Cortland.  I am surprised at the one seed for Cortland for sure.  As for record in last 10, when did this become a criteria?  Most teams are playing conference opponents in those games and can't control those records.  This makes no sense to me.  And, if that was a criteria, then teams that have openings, like Fisher should NEVER play Keystone for instance.  Also, Fisher went 3-3 against Ithaca :).  I just don't see Cortland as a one with that SOS, only 12 region ranked teams, and, if we considering the end of season, an absolute butt whoopin by Oswego.  Thanks guys!!
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Bombers798891 on May 14, 2018, 01:25:02 pm
I just don't see Cortland as a one with that SOS, only 12 region ranked teams, and, if we considering the end of season, an absolute butt whoopin by Oswego. 

Speaking of late season whoopings from Oswego, I'm surprised the E8 tournament could start on time, given that the top of the 3rd in the Fisher-Oswego game required 27 pitching changes and lasted for a day and a half.  ;)
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 14, 2018, 01:29:30 pm
John, I am not comparing Fisher and Cortland.  I am surprised at the one seed for Cortland for sure.  As for record in last 10, when did this become a criteria?  Most teams are playing conference opponents in those games and can't control those records.  This makes no sense to me.  And, if that was a criteria, then teams that have openings, like Fisher should NEVER play Keystone for instance.  Also, Fisher went 3-3 against Ithaca :).  I just don't see Cortland as a one with that SOS, only 12 region ranked teams, and, if we considering the end of season, an absolute butt whoopin by Oswego.  Thanks guys!!

You're right, Fisher was 3-3 against Ithaca.

PRIMARY CRITERIA
The primary criteria emphasize regional competition (all contests leading up to NCAA championships); all criteria listed will
be evaluated (not listed in priority order).
● Win-loss percentage against Division III opponents.
● Division III head-to-head competition.
● Results versus common Division III opponents.
● Results versus ranked Division III opponents as established by the rankings at the time of selection.
● Division III strength of schedule.
Win-loss percentage ó last 25% of the season (if applicable) - Not a huge deal but certainly playing well at the end of the season is a benefit.

Actual game score does not come into play. The folks on the committee are human but margin of victory is not a criteria. Also, Cortland was first in the last published NY region ranking. It is natural that they would be a 1 or 2 seed in Auburn based on this. Looking at the other top four seeded teams in Auburn, only Cortland was a number one regionally ranked team. Salisbury and USM were both ranked second in their respective regions and Baldwin Wallace was 8th in the Mideast. As such, Cortland gets the 1 seed. The field among the top four is stacked and I very easily can see any one of those teams advancing to the World Series.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: BigPoppa on May 14, 2018, 01:31:04 pm
John, I am not comparing Fisher and Cortland.  I am surprised at the one seed for Cortland for sure.  As for record in last 10, when did this become a criteria?  Most teams are playing conference opponents in those games and can't control those records. This makes no sense to me.  And, if that was a criteria, then teams that have openings, like Fisher should NEVER play Keystone for instance.  Also, Fisher went 3-3 against Ithaca :).  I just don't see Cortland as a one with that SOS, only 12 region ranked teams, and, if we considering the end of season, an absolute butt whoopin by Oswego.  Thanks guys!!

They actually have COMPLETE control of those records. Schedule tough opponents, Win games, get selected.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 14, 2018, 01:34:20 pm
Big Poppa, not true.  Most conferences pre-set their conference schedules and up here in the Northeast most teams play all their conference games in April and May. Not sure what you are saying..You can't cancel conference games to play other teams although a place like Fisher or Oswego would try :). 
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: BigPoppa on May 14, 2018, 01:41:58 pm
They may not be able to control the opponent, but they have 100% control over the record. My point of contention was that they do have control over the record. Play well and win and everything else takes care of itself.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2018, 01:52:51 pm
http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2018/2018-playoff-projections

Here is Jim Dixon's write-up. 

Just look what winning 2 more games for SJF does. Don't give up 3 in the bottom of the 9th to BWC and then beat Otterbein the next day.

Your Results vs RRO changes to 11-12 and you now are 31-14.

That is how close SJF came.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 14, 2018, 01:56:08 pm
Agree Ralph.  Again, my thing isn't really Fisher as much as it is with Cortland.  The last couple of years SOS has been the determining criteria.  See Baldwin Wallace a couple years ago at like 25-18 and then a trip to the series.  As for Fisher, they with a couple of others can compare lists all day long.  The last 10 game thing to me is utterly useless.  Especially with makeups.  I commend teams like Fisher for taking on all comers regardless of outcome.  I just wanted Oswego to stay here in NY...I believe they deserved that right by what they did AT Cortland.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2018, 03:01:54 pm
Agree Ralph.  Again, my thing isn't really Fisher as much as it is with Cortland.  The last couple of years SOS has been the determining criteria.  See Baldwin Wallace a couple years ago at like 25-18 and then a trip to the series.  As for Fisher, they with a couple of others can compare lists all day long.  The last 10 game thing to me is utterly useless.  Especially with makeups.  I commend teams like Fisher for taking on all comers regardless of outcome.  I just wanted Oswego to stay here in NY...I believe they deserved that right by what they did AT Cortland.
I think that I understand that you wanted the NCAA to keep Oswego in this regional rather than sending them to New England. 

SOS has always been one of the criteria.

Cortland's 7-5 RRO versus Oswego's 8-9 is another factor.

That being the case, apparently, 2 season ending wins over Cortland were not enough to flip Oswego and Cortland in the Regional rankings.

Thank you.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 14, 2018, 06:29:15 pm
cool Ralph!  I just can't get over Cortland playing just 12 RRO's and playing Wells, Cazenovia, SUNY IT, Hamilton, SUNY Canton, Elmira, Utica and U of Rochester.  Rochester had a nice run by the way at the end but failed to win one game out of league!  With this said, go Cortland, but, let's hope that SOS doesn't hurt them in the regional...those teams are not like the ones I listed above. 
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2018, 07:01:43 pm
I find it interesting when the #6 seed has a really really strong #1 pitcher and he is the guy who carried the team to the playoffs.  He knocks off the #3 seed in the first round and the rest of the staff cannot do much after that.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: OldBallsHenry on May 14, 2018, 08:34:44 pm
Which team are you referring to?
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2018, 08:55:36 pm
Which team are you referring to?
No team in particular, but we see upsets of higher seeds in the Regionals when the ace of a #6, or #7 or a #8 beats the pitcher of the higher seeded team.  This leads to the baseball dictum that you always throw the best arm as soon as possible.

If that ace for the #6 team beat the #2 pitcher for the #3 seed, and the coach was saving the #1 for the "tougher" opponent in the second round, then you are battling out of the consolation round.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 15, 2018, 10:48:39 am
And this year, where the number 1's are closer to the rest of the field, those guys are all vulnerable to the bottom seeds who usually have a guy good enough to beat most anyone!
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 15, 2018, 11:04:54 am
And this year, where the number 1's are closer to the rest of the field, those guys are all vulnerable to the bottom seeds who usually have a guy good enough to beat most anyone!

That is probably why the bottom seeds made it, they have that guy.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 16, 2018, 10:43:58 am
Yup, and that is the case here in NY.  Cortland has struggled a lot at the plate, Oswego thumped them pretty bad and the kid from Westfield St. has great numbers.  I am pulling for the Dragons but the end of the year and the weak scheduling has me scared. 
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: KSCfan on May 17, 2018, 08:21:03 am
Hello gents came on over here from the New England boards as a couple of teams from new england are playing in NY and a couple of NY teams are playing over in the NE regional. 

Oswego will have their work cut out for them in New England as I feel that is a tougher regional than NY.  Umass Boston is scary good, and they are literally playing 45 minutes from their home.  I dont know a lot about Oswego who would be good players to watch for as they play in the regional.   I would say good luck to NY teams but I am new england homer and want two new england teams to make the world series so go Southern Maine, Amherst and Westfield.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 17, 2018, 01:23:24 pm
well said, after looking at the regionals...Cortland was obviously the number 1 overall in the country.  The NY regional is...suspect.  The pitching in the first game today was not good.  I am now taking Cortland in this region.  The competition is not good in comparison.  At least Cortland can pitch.  They may not need to hit. FYI, Oswego can hit the baseball.  That's what they do.  They don't catch it too well lol, but Oswego can hit, one of the better hitting teams in this region on par or close to Fisher and Union.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: John McGraw on May 17, 2018, 02:02:20 pm
well said, after looking at the regionals...Cortland was obviously the number 1 overall in the country.  The NY regional is...suspect.  The pitching in the first game today was not good.  I am now taking Cortland in this region.  The competition is not good in comparison.  At least Cortland can pitch.  They may not need to hit. FYI, Oswego can hit the baseball.  That's what they do.  They don't catch it too well lol, but Oswego can hit, one of the better hitting teams in this region on par or close to Fisher and Union.

Swarthmore threw its number three guy. They'll have one of their top two arms now available for the winners' bracket game tomorrow. Their gamble paid off. B-W not a great pitching team to begin with but had been scoring runs in bunches. Their offense cooled down today.

This was one game in the 4-5 matchup played at 10:00 AM. And sometimes good pitchers have bad days.
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 17, 2018, 02:41:12 pm
Exactly...BW a very suspect 4 seed.  Swarthmore is sitting in a pretty good spot.  I am looking forward to see how Oswego does.  They can hit!
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: chriswjackson5 on May 17, 2018, 05:26:46 pm
Nail biter for Cortland but Iíll take it! Hope they can resolve the number of players left on base and get the proverbial timely hitting working in their favor. Letís go C-Stare
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: airball55 on May 17, 2018, 09:20:54 pm
I am sure westfield st is saying the same thing. Odd game. Oswego is hitting again.  Union cruised. Offense is paramount. Can the dragon's find some?
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: chriswjackson5 on May 17, 2018, 11:23:10 pm
Very frustrating with the broadcasts of these games... live stream of Salisbury and St Joes just cut out in the bottom of the 10th... the angles of first base while pitches being thrown... they have to get this stuff figured out
Title: Re: New York Region 2018
Post by: AllStar on May 18, 2018, 12:38:45 am
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