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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: MBB: University Athletic Association
« on: March 20, 2009, 06:30:25 pm »
One of the things about this WashU team is their ability to string together runs. Here's what I've compiled:

For each game, I've listed runs of 8-0 or better (or longer runs that were slightly interrupted).

North Park 9-0, 11-0, 9-0
Colorado College 9-0, 12-0
Augustana 10-0
Aurora 16-0, 9-0
Hamilton 11-0 (18-2), 14-0
Illinois Wesleyan 8-0
Fontbonne 11-0
Eureka 12-0
Elmhurst 8-0, 8-0
Webster 9-0, 10-0
Chicago 8-0
Case 10-0, 9-0
Emory 12-0, 9-0
Rochester 14-0
Carnegie 9-0 (14-2), 17-0
Brandeis 7-0 (11-1)
NYU 21-0
Brandeis 10-0
Emory 9-0
Case 11-0, 9-0
Rochester 11-0
Chicago 14-0
Lawrence 10-0, 14-0
UW-Whitewater 11-0, 14-0
Wheaton 8-0
St. Thomas 15-0

In only three games they didn't have a major run: Anderson, 2nd NYU, 2nd Carnegie

16-0 run tonight

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: March 19, 2009, 09:46:36 pm »

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: March 19, 2009, 04:43:15 pm »
Ralph asked me to put together this analysis of how much impact one game has on the rankings.

Here are the numbers on the four teams that he asked me to look at:

McMurry 18-6 regional, .7500 RWP, .4873 OWP, .5073 OOWP, .4940 SOS, .5580 RPI
ranked 77 on RPI, 52 on RWP, 63 combined, 8th in South Region, 32nd Pool C team

North Central IL 14-8 regional, .6364 RWP, .6241 OWP, .5588 OOWP, .6023 SOS, .6108 RPI
ranked 17 on RPI, 107 on RWP, 60 combined, 7th in Midwest Region, 29th Pool C team

Augustana 17-8 regional, .6800 RWP, .5409 OWP, .5679 OOWP, .5499 SOS, .5824 RPI
ranked 42 on RPI, 82 on RWP, 59 combined, 6th in Midwest Region, 28th Pool C team

McDaniel 16-7 regional, .6957 RWP, .5527 OWP, .5318 OOWP, .5457 SOS, .5832 RPI
ranked 38 on RPI, 76 on RWP, 55 combined, 6th in Mid-Atlantic Region, 25th Pool C team

So thatís the baseline for these schools.

Ralph then asked me to change a couple of losses to wins for McMurry, Augustana, and McDaniel. Hereís what happens:

McMurry beats Sul Ross State to end up 19-5 instead.
.7917 RWP, .4873 OWP, .5074 OOWP, .4940 SOS, .5684 RPI
ranked 62 on RPI, 41 on RWP, 53 combined, 7th in South Region, 25th Pool C team

and then McMurry beats UT-Tyler to end up 20-4 instead.
.8333 RWP, .4873 OWP, .5080 OOWP, .4942 SOS, .5790 RPI
ranked 45 on RPI, 28 on RWP, 36 combined, 5th in South Region, 18th Pool C team
In this case, I would have expected them to have come out of the South ahead of Guilford and have made the tournament.

Ralph also asked what the impact of the two McMurry wins would be on North Central, who played McMurry this season.

North Central IL 14-8 regional, .6364 RWP, .6280 OWP, .5588 OOWP, .6049 SOS, .6128 RPI
ranked 16 on RPI, 107 on RWP, 63 combined, 6th in Midwest Region, 28th Pool C team
on these numbers, they would nose ahead of Augustana (although the actual comparison would be highly impacted by the head-to-head and common games).

OK, now reset all the games back and give Augustana a win over UW-Lax to reach 18-7
.7200 RWP, .5409 OWP, .5705 OOWP, .5508 SOS, .5931 RPI
ranked 31 on RPI, 66 on RWP, 48 combined, 5th in Midwest Region, 23rd Pool C team

and then give Augustana a win over Elmhurst to reach 19-6
.7600 RWP, .5409 OWP, .5712 OOWP, .5510 SOS, .6032 RPI
ranked 24 on RPI, 48 on RWP, 33 combined, 4th in Midwest Region, 16th Pool C team
with these numbers, they would have passed Elmhurst and likely made it into the tournament

Finally, reset all the games back and give McDaniel a win over Washington College to reach 17-6
.7391 RWP, .5527 OWP, .5322 OOWP, .5459 SOS, .5942 RPI
ranked 29 on RPI, 61 on RWP, 43 combined, 5th in Mid-Atlantic Region, 22nd Pool C team

and then give them a win over St. Maryís MD to reach 18-5
.7826 RWP, .5527 OWP, .5353 OOWP, .5469 SOS, .6058 RPI
ranked 22 on RPI, 42 on RWP, 29 combined, 2nd in Mid-Atlantic Region, 14th Pool C team
they would have replaced St. Mary's as the MA team on the board in late consideration and probably have gotten in.


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Anybody know where I will be able to get a broadcast of the Final Four games (including the championship game)? I get "CSN" (channel 37 in Portland, Oregon on Comcast Cable) but I am unsure if that is the correct channel, since it appears they are broadcasting a baseball game this Saturday. Any tips for being able to watch the games? Thanks!

-John
CBS College Sports Network is on my Comcast system at the "Digital Preferred" tier along with things like NFL Network and NHL Network.

It's also available on DirecTV at 613 and DISH Network at 152.

CSN is likely your local Comcast Sports Network channel.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: MBB: University Athletic Association
« on: March 17, 2009, 04:16:24 pm »
One of the things about this WashU team is their ability to string together runs. Here's what I've compiled:

For each game, I've listed runs of 8-0 or better (or longer runs that were slightly interrupted).

North Park 9-0, 11-0, 9-0
Colorado College 9-0, 12-0
Augustana 10-0
Aurora 16-0, 9-0
Hamilton 11-0 (18-2), 14-0
Illinois Wesleyan 8-0
Fontbonne 11-0
Eureka 12-0
Elmhurst 8-0, 8-0
Webster 9-0, 10-0
Chicago 8-0
Case 10-0, 9-0
Emory 12-0, 9-0
Rochester 14-0
Carnegie 9-0 (14-2), 17-0
Brandeis 7-0 (11-1)
NYU 21-0
Brandeis 10-0
Emory 9-0
Case 11-0, 9-0
Rochester 11-0
Chicago 14-0
Lawrence 10-0, 14-0
UW-Whitewater 11-0, 14-0
Wheaton 8-0
St. Thomas 15-0

In only three games they didn't have a major run: Anderson, 2nd NYU, 2nd Carnegie

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: MBB: University Athletic Association
« on: March 15, 2009, 08:09:27 pm »
Wash U's tournament results from this run...

2007
Fontbonne (home), 77-58
Whitworth (home), 63-61
@ UW-Stevens Point, 78-66
vs Hope (@ UW-Stevens Point), 58-55

Virginia Wesleyan (Salem), 65-67 (L)
Wooster (Salem), 92-84

2008
Wooster (@ Augustana), 79-74
@ Augustana, 70-67 (OT)
Buena Vista (home), 85-77 (OT)
Millsaps (home), 57-46

Hope (Salem), 89-74
Amherst (Salem), 90-68

2009
Lawrence (@ Elmhurst), 67-65
Whitewater (@ Elmhurst), 73-70
@ Wheaton, 55-52
St. Thomas (@ Wheaton), 79-64


So 6-0 on CCIW courts during the run (4 were neutral court games).

Wash U is 15-1 in the NCAA tournament in this span.

Thanks, Bob. For some reason I was thinking that the UWSP sectional was at a CCIW site.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: MBB: University Athletic Association
« on: March 15, 2009, 12:09:08 pm »
Congrats to Coach Edwards and my Bears on another run to Salem.

If I'm not mistaken, they're now 8-0 on CCIW courts in this three-year run.

It's hard to believe just how much this team steps up when they have to.

I wish that I was healthy and could make the drive to Salem.


The first loss for our Bears this year was at Elmhurst.  Congrats Bears!
Sorry, I meant in the NCAAs.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: MBB: University Athletic Association
« on: March 14, 2009, 09:57:27 pm »
Congrats to Coach Edwards and my Bears on another run to Salem.

If I'm not mistaken, they're now 8-0 on CCIW courts in this three-year run.

It's hard to believe just how much this team steps up when they have to.

I wish that I was healthy and could make the drive to Salem.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: NCAA Tournament
« on: March 08, 2009, 07:40:21 am »
I predict that the WashU women will be playing St. Benedict at Stevens Point (and the men will be play Wheaton at Wheaton).

Is it too rude to point out that while only one WIAC team is still playing, five UAA teams are?

Yes, the geography pretty much dictates that the two unbeatens of the midwest (St. Thomas men and Illinois Wesleyan women) are on the road, with the two WashU teams joining them.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2009 Division III NCAA Tournament
« on: March 08, 2009, 07:37:00 am »

Who hosts?  Wheaton, WashU, or St. Thomas?
WashU and St. Thomas are over 500 miles, so it would be Wheaton by geography.


There you go.  Probably by seed, as well, I assume.
I would think that it would be St. Thomas by seed, as they are still undefeated. But none of that matters when one team has a clear geographical advantage (like WashU last year).

Funny, but it looks like the exact same issue on the women's side, where St. Benedict is more than 500 from Illinois Wesleyan, so the sectional would seem to be headed to Stevens Point, putting an undefeated team on the road.


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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2009 Division III NCAA Tournament
« on: March 07, 2009, 10:23:03 pm »

Who hosts?  Wheaton, WashU, or St. Thomas?
WashU and St. Thomas are over 500 miles, so it would be Wheaton by geography.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2009 Division III NCAA Tournament
« on: March 05, 2009, 03:58:18 pm »
How abotu we quantify the Bracket of Death.

I took the 60 tournament participants along with my power rankings (based on D3 results only), and ran the round-by-round chances of each team.

This list is ranked by best chance of a NCAA title to worst chance (Husson shows 0, which is rounding of 1 in 1.5 million!).

For example, St. Thomas has a 94+% chance of getting out of their opener, a 63% chance of surviving the weekend, a 25% chance of getting to Salem, and a 15% chance of winning it all.

Bottom line, the Bracket of Death has at 50.5% chance of winning the Walnut and Bronze, better than the other three quadrants combined.



St. Thomas                    0.9479 0.6311 0.3976 0.2534 0.2016 0.1548
Puget Sound                   1.0000 0.7458 0.3568 0.2015 0.1487 0.1051
Wheaton (Ill.)                0.9414 0.6173 0.3705 0.1815 0.1333 0.0938
Richard Stockton              0.9327 0.6779 0.4559 0.2826 0.1753 0.0774
Ithaca                        1.0000 0.6822 0.4208 0.2976 0.1712 0.0737
Middlebury                    1.0000 0.6989 0.4501 0.2480 0.1442 0.0581
Washington U.                 0.7911 0.4638 0.2357 0.1052 0.0734 0.0488
UW-Stevens Point              0.8092 0.3332 0.1731 0.0908 0.0639 0.0429
Mass-Dartmouth                0.7047 0.4653 0.2419 0.1630 0.0877 0.0346
Elms                          0.8467 0.5815 0.2800 0.1478 0.0781 0.0276
John Carroll                  0.7999 0.5057 0.2965 0.1653 0.0527 0.0272
Capital                       0.8031 0.5336 0.2945 0.1646 0.0519 0.0267
UW-Platteville                0.7920 0.3383 0.1690 0.0659 0.0424 0.0259
Texas-Dallas                  1.0000 0.5740 0.3185 0.1681 0.0485 0.0234
UW-Whitewater                 0.5552 0.2785 0.1246 0.0482 0.0309 0.0188
Franklin and Marshall         0.7481 0.4527 0.2643 0.1107 0.0471 0.0138
Trinity (Texas)               0.7356 0.3587 0.1948 0.1005 0.0279 0.0132
Rhode Island College          0.6480 0.3654 0.1685 0.0770 0.0375 0.0119
Centre                        0.6685 0.3531 0.1809 0.0914 0.0250 0.0116
Carnegie Mellon               0.8242 0.3979 0.2015 0.0962 0.0241 0.0106
Worcester Polytech            0.8754 0.3855 0.1541 0.0858 0.0359 0.0103
Transylvania                  0.5436 0.2978 0.1501 0.0746 0.0199 0.0091
Elmhurst                      0.4448 0.1998 0.0789 0.0265 0.0156 0.0087
SUNY-Farmingdale              0.5998 0.3169 0.1387 0.0602 0.0279 0.0083
Salem State                   0.6133 0.3634 0.1959 0.0765 0.0304 0.0082
St. Joseph's (L.I.)           0.5595 0.1909 0.0877 0.0488 0.0204 0.0058
Widener                       0.6987 0.3563 0.1802 0.0647 0.0236 0.0057
Whitworth                     0.6665 0.1982 0.0564 0.0203 0.0110 0.0056
Amherst                       0.6304 0.2196 0.1078 0.0466 0.0202 0.0055
Bridgewater State             0.6574 0.2283 0.1124 0.0451 0.0194 0.0052
Guilford                      0.4564 0.2305 0.1065 0.0484 0.0112 0.0047
Brandeis                      0.5882 0.2912 0.1500 0.0529 0.0190 0.0045
Wooster                       0.5679 0.2426 0.1005 0.0423 0.0086 0.0033
DeSales                       0.4405 0.1269 0.0511 0.0254 0.0092 0.0022
St. Lawrence                  0.5463 0.2139 0.0691 0.0250 0.0091 0.0020
University of New England     0.4002 0.1719 0.0591 0.0202 0.0074 0.0016
Baruch                        0.2953 0.1364 0.0433 0.0203 0.0068 0.0015
Rochester Tech                0.3867 0.1863 0.0796 0.0229 0.0067 0.0013
MIT                           0.3520 0.1459 0.0468 0.0149 0.0051 0.0010
Scranton                      0.4118 0.1691 0.0723 0.0200 0.0056 0.0010
Gettysburg                    0.4321 0.1577 0.0552 0.0197 0.0031 0.0010
Brooklyn                      0.4537 0.1591 0.0452 0.0145 0.0047 0.0009
Averett                       0.3315 0.1186 0.0413 0.0140 0.0021 0.0006
Gwynedd-Mercy                 0.3696 0.0896 0.0328 0.0102 0.0032 0.0006
Lawrence                      0.2089 0.0579 0.0129 0.0023 0.0009 0.0003
St. Joseph's (Maine)          0.3426 0.0728 0.0245 0.0064 0.0018 0.0003
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps        0.3335 0.0560 0.0091 0.0020 0.0007 0.0003
Cornell                       0.1908 0.0286 0.0062 0.0013 0.0005 0.0002
Maryville (Tenn.)             0.2644 0.0673 0.0208 0.0058 0.0007 0.0002
Wesley                        0.2519 0.0870 0.0285 0.0056 0.0011 0.0001
Virginia Wesleyan             0.3013 0.0940 0.0292 0.0056 0.0011 0.0001
Hope                          0.2080 0.0361 0.0077 0.0011 0.0004 0.0001
Medaille                      0.2001 0.0649 0.0175 0.0043 0.0004 0.0001
Thomas More                   0.1969 0.0660 0.0158 0.0039 0.0004 0.0001
SUNYIT                        0.1533 0.0455 0.0071 0.0012 0.0002 0.0000
Brockport State               0.1758 0.0315 0.0057 0.0010 0.0001 0.0000
Aurora                        0.0521 0.0071 0.0008 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000
Rensselaer                    0.0673 0.0129 0.0021 0.0003 0.0000 0.0000
Fontbonne                     0.0586 0.0082 0.0008 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000
Husson                        0.1246 0.0128 0.0011 0.0002 0.0000 0.0000

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: March 02, 2009, 10:39:09 am »
Thanks for the numbers.  One correction though.  Howard Payne is in Pool A after winning the ASC conference tournament.
Fixed.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: March 02, 2009, 09:49:23 am »
Here are the final numbers run on the women

Reg Conf Rank Prior RPI    OWP    OOWP   School                    Natl Status      Reg Overall

NE  16   01   01    0.6609 0.5790 0.5627 Amherst                   002  C 1         24-2 25-2
NE  16   02   04    0.6762 0.6484 0.5617 Bowdoin                   005  A in        22-4 23-4
NE  16   03   02    0.6590 0.6126 0.5706 Tufts                     010  C 4         21-4 21-4
NE  13   04   03    0.6313 0.5341 0.5642 Eastern Connecticut       011  C 5         25-3 25-3
NE  13   05   07    0.6386 0.5951 0.5565 Southern Maine            025  A in        21-5 22-6
NE  90   06   08    0.6496 0.6605 0.5816 Brandeis                  035  C 14        16-7 17-7
NE  13   07   10    0.6238 0.6125 0.5503 Keene State               040  C 16        18-7 20-7
NE  13   08   06    0.6050 0.5280 0.5639 Western Connecticut       043  C 17        20-5 21-5
NE  14   09   09    0.5994 0.5201 0.5175 Westfield State           045  A in        21-4 22-4
NE  11   10   05    0.5913 0.5084 0.4966 Nichols                   047  C 19        23-4 23-4
NE  12   11   nr    0.6002 0.5655 0.5100 Emmanuel                  055  A in        19-6 21-7

EA  90   01   01    0.6805 0.6323 0.5772 Rochester                 003  C 2         22-3 22-3
EA  90   02   02    0.6607 0.6183 0.5661 New York University       008  C 3         21-4 21-4
EA  21   03   05    0.6097 0.5472 0.5295 Stevens                   037  A in        22-5 22-5
EA  24   04   04    0.6024 0.5419 0.5340 Union                     049  C 20        19-5 19-7
EA  23   05   03    0.5827 0.4849 0.5149 Cortland                  052  C 23        22-4 23-4
EA  21   06   07    0.5985 0.5829 0.5199 Ithaca                    062  C 31        17-7 18-9
EA  23   07   06    0.5796 0.5132 0.5093 Oneonta                   064  C 33        18-5 20-6
EA  24   08   nr    0.5868 0.5564 0.5260 St. Lawrence              065  A in        17-7 19-7
EA  21   09   08    0.5805 0.5456 0.5107 Utica                     067  C 34        18-7 19-7

AT  33   01   02    0.6145 0.5442 0.4849 Mount St. Mary            021  A in        23-3 23-4
AT  32   02   04    0.6133 0.5318 0.5435 New Jersey                026  A in        22-4 23-4
AT  41   03   01    0.6029 0.4855 0.5146 York (Pa.)                029  C 11        25-2 25-2
AT  31   04   07    0.6046 0.5396 0.4991 Baruch                    036  A in        21-4 23-5
AT  32   05   06    0.6131 0.5775 0.5372 Kean                      039  C 15        19-6 21-7
AT  41   06   08    0.6067 0.5578 0.5036 Mary Washington           041  A in        21-5 23-5
AT  31   07   03    0.5914 0.5278 0.4919 Staten Island             053  C 24        18-4 20-6
AT  41   08   05    0.5986 0.5461 0.5107 Marymount                 054  C 25        19-5 20-6
AT  32   09   09    0.6024 0.5960 0.5251 William Paterson          060  C 29        18-8 19-8

MA  46   01   03    0.6834 0.6614 0.5587 Scranton                  004  B 1         23-4 23-4
MA  43   02   04    0.6443 0.5970 0.5314 DeSales                   012  A in        23-4 23-4
MA  45   03   02    0.6238 0.5477 0.5110 Muhlenberg                014  A in        24-3 24-3
MA  42   04   01    0.6396 0.5839 0.5508 Messiah                   019  C 8         21-4 22-4
MA  46   05   05    0.6465 0.6307 0.5647 Moravian                  027  B 2         19-6 21-6
MA  44   06   06    0.6046 0.5392 0.4998 Cabrini                   038  A in        21-4 23-4
MA  42   07   07    0.6009 0.6070 0.5497 Albright                  071  C 38        16-9 17-9
MA  42   08   nr    0.5880 0.5597 0.5528 Widener                   072  A in        17-8 18-9
MA  44   09   09    0.5773 0.5523 0.5008 Gwynedd-Mercy             076              19-8 19-8

SO  54   01   02    0.6528 0.6026 0.5364 Oglethorpe                006  A in        20-3 25-3
SO  55   02   01    0.6141 0.4999 0.4953 Greensboro                017  C 6         25-1 26-2
SO  53   03   06    0.6045 0.5357 0.5131 Randolph-Macon            042  A in        20-4 23-5
SO  51   04   08    0.6003 0.5411 0.5043 Howard Payne              048  A in        22-5 23-5
SO  51   05   04    0.5857 0.5000 0.5027 Mississippi College       051  C 22        21-4 22-4
SO  53   06   05    0.5826 0.4868 0.5168 Roanoke                   058  C 27        21-4 23-4
SO  51   07   03    0.5822 0.4908 0.5074 Texas-Dallas              059  C 28        21-4 21-5
SO  55   08   nr    0.5770 0.5175 0.4951 Christopher Newport       066  A in        21-6 22-6
SO  54   09   09    0.5951 0.5901 0.5336 Centre                    068  C 35        14-7 18-9

GL  65   01   01    0.6203 0.5228 0.5192 Thomas More               013  A in        22-2 26-2
GL  72   02   03    0.6276 0.5611 0.5184 Transylvania              016  A in        20-3 22-5
GL  62   03   02    0.6116 0.4906 0.5106 Hope                      022  A in        21-1 25-1
GL  54   04   04    0.6284 0.5906 0.5326 DePauw                    028  C 10        16-4 22-5
GL  64   05   07    0.6054 0.5170 0.5417 Capital                   032  A in        22-4 22-5
GL  65   06   05    0.6067 0.5424 0.5088 Washington and Jefferson  034  C 13        20-4 24-4
GL  64   07   08    0.6107 0.5809 0.5309 Baldwin-Wallace           044  C 18        18-6 21-7
GL  61   08   06    0.5854 0.4774 0.4777 Pitt-Greensburg           046  A in        20-2 24-2
GL  64   09   09    0.5843 0.5625 0.5200 Wilmington                074              18-8 19-8

MW  71   01   01    0.6600 0.5487 0.5425 Illinois Wesleyan         001  A in        24-0 27-0
MW  86   02   03    0.6448 0.5662 0.5669 UW-Stevens Point          009  A in        22-3 23-3
MW  90   03   06    0.6587 0.6178 0.5730 Washington University     015  A in        19-4 21-4
MW  86   04   05    0.6566 0.6200 0.5602 UW-Eau Claire             018  C 7         19-4 23-4
MW  86   05   02    0.6449 0.5919 0.5625 UW-Whitewater             020  C 9         20-4 22-4
MW  74   06   04    0.6053 0.5326 0.4924 St. Norbert               030  C 12        19-3 20-5
MW  73   07   08    0.6078 0.5425 0.5064 Concordia (Wis.)          031  A in        21-4 22-5
MW  76   08   07    0.6002 0.5103 0.4708 Maryville (Mo.)           033  A in        20-2 22-5
MW  90   09   09    0.6180 0.6085 0.5748 Chicago                   050  C 21        17-8 17-8

WE  83   01   01    0.6379 0.5140 0.5239 George Fox                007  A in        22-0 27-0
WE  81   02   03    0.6157 0.5346 0.5239 Simpson                   023  A in        20-3 24-3
WE  82   03   02    0.6118 0.5227 0.5129 St. Benedict              024  A in        24-3 24-3
WE  84   04   04    0.5787 0.4795 0.4862 Occidental                057  A in        20-3 22-5
WE  82   05   06    0.5723 0.5324 0.5160 Concordia-Moorhead        081              17-7 18-9
WE  82   06   05    0.5741 0.5370 0.5188 St. Thomas                084              19-8 19-8
WE  84   07   07    0.5661 0.5304 0.4765 La Verne                  088              16-6 19-7
WE  83   08   nr    0.5758 0.5797 0.5190 Puget Sound               098              15-9 18-9
WE  84   09   08    0.5462 0.4897 0.4854 Redlands                  106              18-7 19-7


Reg        Region
Conf       Conference number
Rank      Regional ranking
Prior       Prior regional ranking
School
Natl     National ranking based on regional results
Status
    B + number: Pool B ranking (top 3 in tournament)
    C + number: Pool C ranking of 18 teams in tournament
    C second: second tier Pool C (spots 21-30)
    C third: third tier Pool C (spots 31-40)
    A in: clinched Pool A bid
    blank: lower level Pool C

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: March 01, 2009, 09:23:41 pm »

By request, and remember that these are just estimates and do not reflect all of the selection criteria.

Question:

I assume that B3 is Maryville. Why is it not in your estimate?
Not in the South's top 11

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