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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: August 28, 2020, 08:10:08 pm »
As of now....UWSP has 13 incoming players that have made commitments.  I thought they needed quite an influx on players to practice the way they would want to practice, but 13 definitely exceeded the number I had in my head by a long shot.  It makes me question whether or not all players with eligibility left are coming back.  With everyone back, the roster would sit at 22.  I don't remember it ever being that high.

Ryan Genrich 6'1" Mukwonago
Trey Zastrow 6'0" Manitowoc Lutheran
Elijah Vander Velden 6'8" Wabash(IN)
Ryan Peterson 6'1" Northland Pines
Ethan Breheim 6'5" Alma Center Lincoln
Levi Ewan 6'0" Rib Lake
Anthony Espensen 6'4" Belvidere North(IL)
Cooper Weinfurter 6'0" Auburndale
Jaxon Flaherty 6'1" Unity
Cliff McCray 6'1" Madison West - Transfer from UW Stout
Jacob Newhouse 6'6" Kaukauna
Phillip Flory 6'4" Oshkosh North - Transfer from D1 Seton Hall/Albany
Vaughn Breit 6'5" Stratford

Haven't had numbers like these in the post-Redshirt/post-Bennet era, to be sure.

In 2004-05, we had 22 on the roster.

This was the first post-Redshirt year that was Coach Bennett's last year at UWSP. Coach Semling hasn't kept more than the NCAA roster-limit of 15 (to my recollection).

2010-11 seems to be the exception (18 on the roster).
19 in 2016-17

One of the difficulties in D-3 especially, is roster attrition, as we all know. So, if the roster is at 15 (or less) and a couple of guys decide not to come out, then then you end up with classes with 2-3 players when they get to upperclassmen. And this league (and the NCAA tournament) are won by upper classmen.

This is a good day for the league, though, because a good guy got the job that he earned and deserves.

Congrats to you as well, Steve. And, just as was the case with your old man, I wish you all the luck in the world ... 363 days a year. ;)

What if NPU meets him in the conference tourney?  and in the post-season?  Or are you willing to forfeit the regular season games as long as you win when it REALLY counts? ;D

The college basketball gods will ensure that you can't meet a rival 4x in a year, as we saw with Tommie-Johnnie 4.0 this year. Although I'm certain we would have been victorious

It's happened at least twice to my knowledge... Both times in 2003-04, ironically. UWSP played UW Oshkosh twice in the regular season, once in the conference tournament, and once in Vegas at a Christmas tournament.
That same year, Williams and Amherst played once in the NESCAC, once in the "Little Three" matchup, once in the NESCAC tournament, and in Salem in the National Semi's.

In fact, it's probably on the likely(ish) end for teams that meet in the NCAA tournament from the same conference.
Ironically, Wheaton and Augie only met three times in 2018-19, as North Central prevented the meeting by dispatching the Thunder in the second round of the CCIW tournament, before they could meet the hosts for a (then third, to be followed by fourth)... Time.

I've heard Kent Dernbach (UW-La Crosse) is a finalist for the Augustana job.

I can't confirm but the intel seems very solid.

Coach Dernbach does have some coaching ties to Illinois... He was Director of Basketball Operations/assistant at Northern Illinois.

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: April 09, 2020, 08:58:20 pm »
I might need to start following IWU, UWSP sure hasnít been any fun lately to follow on the court or in recruiting.

Don't let them suck you in!

I haven't watched this yet... but UWSP did a "Wisdom Wednesday" with Jack Bennett today:

They did one last week with retired (and HOF) AD Frank O'Brien which was very good.

Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: January 24, 2020, 10:23:19 am »
Thoroughly enjoyed the battle at Kolf last night. Never thought I'd see a Semling coached team give up 105! points. Pointers did not have the size and depth to compete when Flynn came back in the second half and the inside out game was working to a tee for Oshkosh. Of course it always helps to shoot lights out and the field goal percentage improved from 51% in the first half to 70% in the second half for the Titans. Career highs of 19 from Peterson and 20 from Borchert very key difference makers. Borchert's craft is still a work in progress, but obviously is more developed at this point than Timmerman and Sachtjen.

Mahoney's face injury is a bit concerning for Oshkosh, but they did just fine in second half with Peterson at PG and Borchert joining the second half starting five. Spray was in that walking boot and the Point radio men said he would for sure be out Saturday as well. They said he has a shot to play Wednesday against River Falls. I'd think a more likely scenario would be to give it another week until Feb. 5th in Whitewater with the 1st off. Knez not at the game is an interesting proposition for the Pointers.

Wednesday nights are always tough to catch all the games and get a good feel for the flow and momentum, but it's good to see Shields already back for Platteville. 16 points in 28 minutes coming back last night for the point guard. Mahoney and Spray are the key injuries to watch now in the WIAC.

I guess La Crosse at Eau Claire is highlighted match up on Saturday.

Last time Point gave up 100 was at D2 Northern Michigan in 06-07 (which was a great UWSP team). Tom went to that game, if I recall correctly.

The last time a WIAC opponent scored 100 was in 90-91... Both Platteville and Whitewater hit the century mark.

To your point... it's exceedingly rare for Point to give up 80, let alone 90 or 100.

Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: January 19, 2020, 10:43:01 am »
Point loses to EC by 1 on a failed box out off a free throw, also didnít help that it was 15-0 before Point scored a point.  To make matters worse, looks like Spray has a badly sprained ankle that happened in the first 2 minutes and he didnít return.  The inconsistency this team shows each game doesnít allow them to withstand any injuries, they only play 7 guys to begin with.

Point battled back well from a big early deficit, like you said... And has a 1 pt lead with the ball with 0:29 left (14 in the shot clock). Tough shot missed... and rebounding foul, put EC on the line, which they missed and which allowed EC to take that last lead, as you said.

Very interesting foul on the Point miss. An SP player (I don't remember who) tried to away the ball back, missed, and clocked an EC player in the face. The Point radio guys didn't like it, but I watched it three times and it definitely was a foul - just one I've never seen before in that situation!

SP missed Spray a ton and continues to be inconsistent... No real go-to guy or options in crunch time.

And yet, defensively, they're still really good... Just need to clean up the board at the other end.

There was a big discrepancy in free throws in this one which allowed SP to come back in a mediocre shooting night. Coach Siverling was quite unhappy about that at a certain point in the second half and his display of displeasure (several feet out onto the floor) gave SP two more... And could have had an impact on the outcome of the game. But, alas, Point couldn't seal the deal in the end.

Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: October 31, 2019, 04:07:06 pm »
Well, we already had a poll which counted last year's players and results. This should be a poll which includes this year's players.

That was my point, actually - that those who are left at Oshkosh look ever so slightly "worse" (or not as good?) as those who are left at Swarthmore.

I don't necessarily subscribe to the notion that the champ is the champ until someone else beats them... but, when you have a team (*or teams) who did well last year and return a lot, then it seems natural that those teams should be at the top of the heap, which they are!

Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: October 29, 2019, 06:11:20 pm »

Oshkosh #2, Platteville 4th ORV

Apparently Oshkosh's losses are worth 14 points (or greater) more than Swarthmore's. Because Oshkosh won the game that counted last year... and yet Swarthmore begins the year at the top of the heap.

Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: October 25, 2019, 11:09:59 am »
I was able to figure out who the freshman from Pewaukee is for UWSP.  Isaac Woelffer, a 6'5" Forward, I'm not expecting him to log many important minutes for the UWSP program by doing some digging.

Semling and Hockett better hit a homerun and then maybe a grand slam on the 2020 recruiting trail.

Student athlete: Why should I come to Point Oshkosh?

Coach: Because we're the National Champions.

Student athlete: Ok.

Fixed it for you.


If Oshkosh has sustained success, then maybe they have an argument... but one is just a blip.

Also, Quandt is a much better place to play than the Kolf... It's impossible to fill up that barn (even with well-traveling visitors) and even when it's packed, it doesn't feel like it is because it's so huge.

Point averaged 1139 (roughly half full) per game in attendance last year with an 18-9 team that didn't make the NCAA tournament. Oshkosh averaged 655 (1/10th full?) per game in a year that they were coming off of a National runnner-up finish and won the National Title.

Plus, Point was the last team to beat Oshkosh (and by 20, at home) before they went on their run (or which allowed them to go on their run...). So, you're welcome, Oshkosh, for perspective and the National Title!

(most of this is in jest... but the stats presented above don't lie).

Wikipedia says 5800:

Wikipedia also says that it was state of the art in 1971.

1-2 for the WIAC so far

Platteville had 7 point lead with 2:40 left in regulation. Over the last 2:40, they missed two free throws and turned it over twice and only got up two shots, one of them with 2 seconds left. Not exactly how you ice a basketball game.

I only watched those last few minutes, but Capital's offense seemed to be exclusively a clear out and drive/kick. I doubt that's what they did all game, but it was all least three possessions in a row. I guess it worked though because they got back even and won it in OT.

Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 25, 2019, 07:20:56 pm »
Not to mention two points in the last 4+ minutes in the WIAC championship game, but someone already reminded us of that.

So Point had a better winning%, higher SOS and more results vRRO than La Crosse. The Eagles were 2-0 v Point. If Platteville snuck into the regional rankings on their strength of their 3-0 week, Point would've added three more losses and no wins to their vRRO. That's 1-7 vs Oshkosh, La Crosse and Platteville.

I never thought Point had a chance to get into the tournament, but I never expected La Crosse to stay ahead of Point in the regional rankings AND actually get a bid. Amazing.

However, I do wish all the WIAC teams the best of luck. It's funny. All the experts felt Point didn't have enough to get in and La Crosse got in with arguably worse numbers.

Platteville goes from not being ranked to #5 in the Feb 25 final, above UWL and Point.


Link to Central data sheet:

The important numbers:

   Team      Vs D-3      (%)      Vs RRO      (%)      SOS      Record      (%)      Vs UWP      Vs UWL      Vs UWSP   
   Wis.-Platteville      17-10      (0.630)      6-5      (0.545)      0.593      18-10      (0.643)      -      2-1      3-0   
   Wis.-La Crosse      17-9      (0.654)      5-4      (0.556)      0.575      17-9      (0.654)      1-2      -      2-0   
   Wis.-Stevens Point      18-9      (0.667)      2-9      (0.182)      0.590      18-9      (0.667)      0-3      0-2      -   

If we accept that the Win % and SOS are close enough (I'm not necessarily making this argument... just posing an argument that might have been made), if you look at the vs. RRO and H2H, Platteville rises to the top (their SOS was the highest anyway).

To tomt's point earlier... Point had the opportunity to win several games this year.

12/1/18 - 8 pt lead at Augustana with 4 minutes to go. Lost at the buzzer/turned the ball over - didn't get a shot
1/19/19 - 4 pt lead vs Platteville under 4 minutes. Lost at the buzzer (tip dunk)/turned the ball over - didn't get a shot
1/31/19 - 4 pt halftime lead at La Crosse
2/9/19 -  Tied with Oshkosh - 4 minutes left, led by 5 with 8 minutes left
2/16/19 - 3 pt halftime lead at Platteville

2/23/19 - 1 pt lead with 4 minutes left at Platteville (WIAC Tournament)

Obviously, if the last one had been finished, then it would have been the Auto-bid. But if any one of those other 5 had gone Point's way, then it might be a different story in terms of the Pool C bid. I think it's safe to say if any two went their way, then it's definitely different. 20-7 is a .740 win %, two more wins vs RRO (obviously contingent on Platteville entering, or not...)

Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 22, 2019, 02:42:59 pm »
So, I looked at the UWSP/UWP matchups from the past few years:

1/7/15 @UWSP 74 UWP 55 (UWSP had 1 conference loss this season, won the National Title)
2/7/15 UWSP 67 @UWP 55

2/13/16 @UWSP 60 UWP 57 (UWSP #5 in conference, UWP #7)
2/17/16 UWSP 72 @UWP 64

1/18/17 @UWP 76 UWSP 71 (UWSP tied #4 in conf, UWP #8 - Platteville's sole conference win this season)
2/15/17 @UWSP 61 UWP 56

1/20/18 @UWSP 80 UWP 74 (one of Platteville's two conference losses) (UWP #1 in conf, UWSP #2)
2/7/18 @UWP 56 UWSP 47 (one of Point's three conference losses) (Both teams made the Sweet 16)

1/19/19 UWP 61 @UWSP 60 (Platteville led by 8 at the half)
2/16/19 @UWP 55 UWSP 50 (Point led by 3 at the half)

I think the "conclusion" you can draw from looking at these is that this will likely be a close game. Two years ago (and further) is probably too far back... but interesting that Point was Platte's only win of the year two years ago.

If you look at the scores, it appears that last season and this, Point has had more success by NOT slowing the pace down, which they usually do. The last two games, though, Point has looked different on offense... moving the ball more and less holding and 1 on 1 as the shot clock runs out. That's come with the juniors getting into game and being scoring threats, as Tom mentioned above.

Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 22, 2019, 02:04:24 pm »
Hey Stevens Point, now is a good time to start a 9-game winning streak. Just sayin'



Sorry this was late, GT.

Better late than never though, I guess!

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