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North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: July 24, 2016, 11:54:46 pm »
I'll break the radio is My initial NCAC Championship Race Projection

1. Wabash 9-0 (10-0 overall)
2. Depauw 8-1 (Loss to Wabash) (9-1 overall)
3. Witt  7-2 (Wabash, Depauw)  (7-3 overall)
4. OWU - 6-3 (Wabash, Depauw and Witt) (6-4 overall)

Wabash gets AQ
Depauw in the Pool C conversation

Game(s) of the Year - 

9/24 -  Wabash at Witt
10/08 -  Depauw at Witt
11/12- Depauw at Wabash
( at game time, Wabash ranked #7, Depauw #15 )

I hesitate to dip my toe in the water on this one, but I'm going to do it anyway. It does seem pretty likely that if DePauw gets by Witt, they'll get to Hollett at 9-0. I think DePauw will certainly be improved from a year ago. I think it's Wabash, then it's DePauw, then it's Witt, then somebody from the rest of that mess has to finish 4th. OWU? Denison? I think Oberlin will be better. Huge fan of their OC. New QB for them, but last year's QB is now on the coaching staff.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: July 01, 2016, 01:42:11 am »
One big catch--TJ Kilbourne, OL transfer from Division II Walsh U., in Ohio.  He is from Decatur Central, and will press for a starting spot on the OL, where there are already three returning starters--Stucker, Leath, and Sturdivant.  Stucker and Sturdivant are all-NCAC.

I like Kilbourne. Coached against him a few years ago. DC had a REALLY good OL with him and Lukayus McNeil, who is now at Louisville.  That place has turned into a factory in the last 5-6 years or so. Their big LT from this past year will be a freshman at Miami Ohio. QB Tommy Stevens is at Penn State. And DC is loaded right now. Stud soph QB & junior RB.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: June 10, 2016, 03:01:18 am »
Coaching changes at Witt. Not a lot of experience:

Also baseball and basketball coaches resign, both with 20+ in the position.

Reed's been around. Marian & Millikin are both good jobs. He must have really wanted to come back home. He was OC at Milikin, but is taking the safeties job at Witt.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: March 07, 2016, 12:52:36 am »
I hope we are getting a good one.

HSC now has something in common with two NCAC insitutions; Wabash/all male/kicked our butts in football, now DePauw.

Definitely a thing DePauw knows a thing or seven about.   :)

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: January 28, 2016, 06:24:59 pm »
If you're 3rd in that conference in defense, you're a pretty good defense. Wabash's release said top 3 in the conference.

393 yards a game is fine in that conference. That's a good offensive conference. You won't hold somebody to 250 per unless you're Linfield. And Linfield doesn't have to play their own offense, either.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: January 28, 2016, 08:48:19 am »
Be interesting to see the "why" this hire?  Obviously not a red hot "up and comer".  From his bio, more like a long timer D III.  And not coming with fingers in/credentials in recruiting our prime recruiting grounds. 

I think the why is because he's a helluva coach. Puget Sound's D was really good. As others have said, he did a good job at Oberlin. If you were the head coach at Oberlin, you can recruit Ohio, and that's a pretty important part of recruiting in the Midwest.

Here's the thing about the hot shot kids: they leave. They always leave. It's always greener somewhere else. They still want to be in the BCS. The money still matters because they're still broke from being a GA forever. You're not going to a sexy hire and have him stay for 5-7 years. And I don't think that's what Wabash wants or needs. It's a big deal for your program that your assistants are getting looks. That said. you need somebody that sees Wabash as a destination and not a stepping stone. I think y'all have got him.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: January 09, 2016, 03:37:53 am »
The past decade or so DePauw has opened with Anderson, Earlham, or RHIT before RHIT was good. So anything is an improvement at this point.

And again, that subscribes to my theory of needing a winnable game against a .500 or above regional opponent in non-conf. Doesn't help you to schedule an opponent you may lose to. You need a team you know you can beat that doesn't hurt your SOS. This conference hurts your SOS enough on its own.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: January 06, 2016, 01:28:29 am »
Now the question becomes who does Wabash get to lead the defense?    There is a ton of talent returning and plenty of depth ready to fill the holes created by graduation.    The unit is certainly poised to once again be great.    You would think that it is a pretty attractive spot for a coach looking at furthering their career.    Can/Do we promote from within or go outside.   Is the hiring process a "by committee" event like hiring a head coach?

Feels like a pretty good opportunity to hire from within. You certainly don't want to reinvent the wheel. What Hammer has built needs to continue, in my opinion. And I don't think you do that by hiring somebody from outside and dictating what the D has to be.

I like David Denham a lot. He is a great DL coach. But he's the ST coordinator. So I don't know if that's even an option on the table.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: January 04, 2016, 02:50:36 pm »
Really happy for BJ. I've seen him speak several times. He's been very helpful to me and my team's staff.

He's one of those guys that you always learn something from every time you talk to him. I hung on every word at the Glazier Clinic a couple years ago and I don't even coach defense.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: December 30, 2015, 09:55:03 pm »
The DePauw community lost a good one today. Longtime baseball coach Ed Meyer has passed away at 75.

Ed was DePauw's baseball coach from 1965-1999. Graduated from DePauw in 1962. He was the QB on Bell winning teams in '60 and '61. He was also a football & basketball assistant. Two of his sons have DePauw degrees. His third son, Tony (who used to hang out here some), played football & baseball at Wabash. Tony is now the head football coach at my alma mater, Cloverdale HS.

Ed was one of the really, really good people associated with the University.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: December 17, 2015, 10:32:21 pm »
I saw Hiram HC Randy Moore stepped down today.

So the Pups are starting over again.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: December 16, 2015, 10:50:26 pm »
Too lazy to screw with trying to quote one specific part of wally's post about Witt from my phone.

Agree that they don't run it well enough. I only see 2 games of theirs per year, but it appears that it's not really a huge deal to them. That may change for 2016. But this year they were content to try to beat DePauw and Wabash thru the air. Unfortunately, they threw it to the defense a lot.

Biggest loss for Witt, in my mind, over the past few seasons is OC Andy Mitchel. He's the OC at NAIA Marian in Indy now. They're playing in the NAIA title game for the second straight year this weekend. It really hasn't been the same since he left. Having Reed Florence (now the OC at Milikin) when you're an OC helps too. Mitchel is really, really good. He was part of Emendorfer's staff at Platteville when their O started going bonkers.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: December 07, 2015, 02:36:37 pm »
Agreed -- there's no absolutes there. I even asked a MIAC coach who was at the game Saturday if he were voting, would he take St. John's or Wabash higher in the Top 25, and he said: "St. John's. But wait, that's probably just because they know St. Thomas better."

Glad somebody else out there thinks that this is an important point.

There's two sides to that coin.  UST was also unfamiliar with Wabash.

Bigger deal for a D to be familiar with an O than vice versa.

St John's has that advantage because their D sees UST every year. No such luck for Wabash on that front. Also, Wabash just isn't as good offensively, so that isn't quite as big of a deal for UST's D.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: December 06, 2015, 08:08:03 pm »
I've always thought that it's harder for Wabash (and also DePauw) to recruit Indiana now because Franklin and Marian are both really good and considerably cheaper.

I've had 6 kids go to Franklin in 4 years and at least one on the way for next year. We sent 1 to Wabash and 0 to DePauw. A couple of them legitimately WANTED to go to Franklin and never considered anywhere else, but some others had their decision made for them by not being admitted to Wabash or DePauw. There was mutual interest from both schools in some of those kids. Now they play for the Griz.

There's not a lot of bleed over with RHIT in terms of the type of kids you get from a curriculum standpoint (liberal arts vs engineering) but they are certainly a factor in the recruiting of skill guys in this state, too. Their WR corps could play just about anywhere.

North Region football / Re: FB: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: December 05, 2015, 03:42:42 pm »
This is probably the worst performance I've seen by a special teams unit that I would have deemed to be "elite" before the game started, if that makes sense. The best of the best coming in. And then a total disaster today. I never even considered that as a possible factor at the game. I just assume they're going to play well in the specials. That's how good they are.

None of the other stats are even that important. Pretty pedestrian offensive day for UST (comparatively speaking, based on the rest of their games) and it didn't matter.

7-24 is really, really bad. 120 rushing yards isn't enough. They got to 4 yards a carry, which I thought would be good enough to win, but unfortunately the clock became the enemy pretty early. D got 3 UST turnovers and held UST under 3 yards a carry, although there's still 10 mins to go as I write this.

If the specials are at least mediocre, Wabash probably would have been in a position late to at least have a chance.

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