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South Region football / Re: South Region Fan Poll
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:36:35 pm »
South Region Fan Poll Week #3

1)  UMHB50         1,1,1,1,1..
2)  HSU442,2,2,2,3..
3)  W&J 412,3,3,3,3..
4T)  Berry   324,4,4,5,6..
4T)  CWRU  324,4,5,5,5..
.....
6)  F&M                   206,6,7,8,8..
7)  Muhlenberg  186,7,7,8,9..
8)  JHU         135,7,8,x,x..
9T)  TLU         96,7,x,x,x..
9T)  Centre 98,9,9,9,x..
. ....
RV  Susquehanna      29,x,x,x,x..
RV W&L210,10,x,x,x..
RV Thomas More110,x,x,x,x..
RV ETBU110,x,x,x,x..
RV Millsaps110,x,x,x,x..
.      ....
. ....
. ....

Corrections are always appreciated.  ADL70 has joined the panel for 2018.

Thanks to ADL70, hasanova, jknezek, and Scots13.

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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:06:24 pm »
in 2011, McMurry beat FCS UT San Antonio in the Alamodome in its inaugural game, 24-21.

That is more a case of 21 year mature seniors beating 18 year-olds, regardless of how talented the 18 year old are.

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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: September 13, 2018, 10:22:47 pm »
Was perusing through some schedules on D3, and I was wondering: What in the heck is Louisiana College doing playing Alcorn State (an FCS school). And what in the heck is Alcorn State doing scheduling them (after playing Georgia Tech the week prior)?

Does LC have that big of a problem getting games?
Probably a "money game" for LaCollege, just my guess.

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: September 11, 2018, 12:53:32 pm »
Hate to see Guilford cancel another game,but  being safe is the best way. Missing stats from two game could easily take 8 to 10 sway from Bell's career total as well as the yardage.
I just looked at Davidson and Guilford's schedules their only open date is Nov. 3 and Guilford's is next week on the 22nd. The Quakers may not play for 3 weeks and only have one game heading into ODAC play and Homecoming on the 29th.
We're open this Saturday. Maybe we could meet somewhere in the middle and finish the 4th quarter?
Love it!

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South Region football / Re: South Region Fan Poll
« on: September 10, 2018, 10:00:20 pm »
South Region Fan Poll Week #2

1)  UMHB50         1,1,1,1,1..
2)  HSU442,2,2,2,3..
3)  W&J 402,3,3,3,4..
4)  CWRU  323,4,5,5,6..
5)  Berry   304,4,5,6,6..
.....
6)  F&M                   244,6,7,7,7..
7T)  Susq  146,7,8,9,x..
7T)  JHU         145,8,8,9,x..
9T)  TLU         77,8,x,x,x..
9T)  Trinity75,10,x,x,x..
. ....
RV  Muhlenberg      58,9,x,x,x..
RV Centre39,10,x,x,x..
RV W&L210,10,x,x,x..
RV Southwestern29,x,x,x,x..
RV Hendrix110,x,x,x,x..
.      ....
. ....
. ....

Corrections are always appreciated.  ADL70 has joined the panel for 2018.

Thanks to ADL70, hasanova, jknezek, and Scots13.

I think there's a fifth place vote missing.

Thanks, it is JHU!


As I was modifying the table, I deleted ADL70's finding the error!  Thanks, ADL70

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South Region football / Re: South Region Fan Poll
« on: September 10, 2018, 08:19:22 pm »
The Trinity "5th" place vote is mine.

As I look at the South Region, Trinity is now my favorite to win the SAA. They played head-to-head with HSU. I can see them rising to 4th in the South Region Fan Poll by the end of the year, if they run the table.

The Centennial is a mess.  We all can see four contenders for the title. Each of the four got solid votes from more than one voter. That will be a fun conference to watch.

For the Presidents AC, it is W&J, CWRU, CMU and the 7 dwarves.   CMU and CWRU play the last game of the season. CWRU plays at W&J on 10/6. W&J hosts CMU this weekend. The Pres AC does not have a round robin, so a 3-way tie would go to the tie-breaker.

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South Region football / Re: South Region Fan Poll
« on: September 10, 2018, 08:03:33 pm »
South Region Fan Poll Week #2

1)  UMHB50         1,1,1,1,1..
2)  HSU442,2,2,2,3..
3)  W&J 402,3,3,3,4..
4)  CWRU  323,4,5,5,6..
5)  Berry   304,4,5,6,6..
.....
6)  F&M                   244,6,7,7,7..
7)  Susq  146,7,8,9,x..
8)  JHU         88,8,9,x,x..
9T)  TLU         77,8,x,x,x..
9T)  Trinity75,10,x,x,x..
. ....
RV  Muhlenberg      58,9,x,x,x..
RV Centre39,10,x,x,x..
RV W&L210,10,x,x,x..
RV Southwestern29,x,x,x,x..
RV Hendrix110,x,x,x,x..
.      ....
. ....
. ....

Corrections are always appreciated.  ADL70 has joined the panel for 2018.

Thanks to ADL70, hasanova, jknezek, and Scots13.

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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: September 09, 2018, 12:53:33 pm »
Trinity looks like they will be very strong in the SAA.

Trinity catches Berry at home the last week of the season. I expect them to be 8-1, and regionally ranked.  This helps the ASC get a Pool C bid if HSU loses to UMHB (as the form chart suggests this early in the season).

For game #1, that was a good HSU performance. I agree about the "sloppy/careless" penalties.

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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: September 08, 2018, 02:49:27 pm »
UMHB 65-0 (triple monkey stomp) with 11 mins left in the 3rd?

And there are very few deep bench subs to run into the game...

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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: September 06, 2018, 05:36:57 pm »
I'll get behind the Battle for the Republic tag if you will join the Battle for the Hardin Family Fortune bowl haha
Battle for the hardin family fortune is hard because the hardin family gave generously to education.  it would have to be something like the Hardin family cup and include HSU, UMHB, McM, and HPU @ the D3 level because they gave to all of those schools. But id get behind something like that.
To my knowledge, McMurry did not receive any Hardin family money.

What became Midwestern State (Hardin Junior College) in Wichita Falls did, plus Simmons College, Abilene Christian College, Baylor Female College, Howard Payne College and the Buckner orphanage in Dallas were the primary benrficiaries of the Hardin philanthropy.

https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fha62
https://texoso66.com/2015/01/28/the-generosity-of-the-john-g-hardin-family/
this is the article i was looing at.
They misspelled McMurry...

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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: September 06, 2018, 03:46:02 pm »
I am new to D3 Football as my son is a freshman this year and I just found this sight a few days ago.  Nice to chat and see what is going on around the conference.

Welcome to the boards! Glad to have a Southwestern fan on board!

Are there many Pirate fans on board? All I see are mostly UMHB and HSU.
+1! SUPirate, welcome aboard.

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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: September 06, 2018, 03:45:05 pm »
Southwestern has a different mission and vision.

Here are the schools that Southwestern considers its peers.

http://colleges.org/colleges/

Ralph, would you mind elaborating a little bit on your point here. It looks like 12 of these 15 sister schools have football, and all twelve have an on campus stadium from cursory internet searches.
Thank you.

Austin College and University of Dallas were charter members of the ASC.

When University of Dallas decided its mission and vision were no longer in line with the ASC (about 2001), they became an independent. They accepted an affiliation in the North East Athletic Conference in 2008-09 and 2009-10 trying to get access to the playoffs, before moving to the SCAC in 2011-12, where they had wanted to be all along. The SAA forms in 2012-2013.

When Austin College determined that the ASC members did not have the same mission and vision that AC did, they moved to the SCAC in 2006.

Texas Lutheran and Schreiner accepted the invitation to move to the SCAC when the SAA formed.  The SCAC conference presidents knew whom they wanted to add to rebuild the  SCAC in 2013-2014, after the SAA-7 left.

Southwestern and Texas Lutheran (plus Trinity and Austin College) tried to make a go of the SCAC as a football conference. However, Colorado College, which had a football tradition since 1882, dropped football after 2008 and never re-started it. Centenary was in the ASC for 1 year on their move down from D-1, and did not add football when they became D-3. Schreiner did not add football when they had the chance to start football in conference that did not have UMHB, HSU, ETBU and other strong programs.  UDallas considered adding football about 2004 but it never gained momentum. Trinity and AC appealed to their old friends in the SAA and were able to go back as a football affiliate in the SAA. IMHO, TLU and Southwestern are only affiliate members in football in the ASC, so that they can fill a 10 game schedule.

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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: September 06, 2018, 02:10:07 pm »
I'll get behind the Battle for the Republic tag if you will join the Battle for the Hardin Family Fortune bowl haha
Battle for the hardin family fortune is hard because the hardin family gave generously to education.  it would have to be something like the Hardin family cup and include HSU, UMHB, McM, and HPU @ the D3 level because they gave to all of those schools. But id get behind something like that.
To my knowledge, McMurry did not receive any Hardin family money.

What became Midwestern State (Hardin Junior College) in Wichita Falls did, plus Simmons College, Abilene Christian College, Baylor Female College, Howard Payne College and the Buckner orphanage in Dallas were the primary benrficiaries of the Hardin philanthropy.

https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fha62


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South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: September 05, 2018, 09:55:59 pm »
Southwestern has a different mission and vision.

Here are the schools that Southwestern considers its peers.

http://colleges.org/colleges/

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National topics / Re: BB: Requiem in pace (R.I.P.)
« on: September 05, 2018, 11:53:39 am »
Doc Edwards

Former Indians, A's Yankees and Phillies player and manager of the Indians.

https://www.gosanangelo.com/story/sports/2018/08/20/longtime-san-angelo-colts-manager-doc-edwards-dies/1043332002/

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