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Feb. 16      The big finish with no drama for the top seed but lots of stuff everywhere else as everybody hits the court today   

Oswego State  @  Geneseo State        4:00 PM

Lakers playing to make their record look better in case they need an at large bid. Geneseo playing for pride. Knights knocked off Brockport and Cortland in the past week. Can they do it again. Oddsmakers have made Oswego a 13 point favorite. They better bring their game because the Knights would love to beat the top seed and carry that over into next season. Lakers win this one 75-65.


Plattsburgh State  @  New Paltz State        4:00 PM

Plattsburgh needs a win to make their record better, especially now that they may slide to 3rd place in the next set of Regional Rankings. They better bring their game because they left it on the bus yesterday. Hawks need a win here to secure a playoff bid they will be hungrier than the Cardinals. Oddsmakers have Plattsburgh favored by 8 points. I think they win by an 83-72 final score.


Cortland State  @  Brockport State        4:00 PM    Co-Featured Game of the Day

The winner gets the 3 seed the loser gets the 4 seed. No one else can move up any higher than the 5 spot. The oddsmakers have this one almost dead even, as they make  the Red Dragons a 1 point favorite. Both teams struggling down the stretch. I'll go withthe home team to win 76-73




Fredonia State  @  Buffalo State        4:00 PM

Both team would like to end disappointing seasons with a win. Only one can do that. Oddsmakers think the Bengals are big 15 point home favorites. I tend to agree. Blue Devils haven't won on the road all year. Buffalo State 89 Fredonia 74.


Potsdam State  @  Oneonta State        4:00 PM   Co-Featured Game of the Day

The winner is in, the loser may be out depending on who the loser is and what New Paltz does. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 6 point favorite. I think Oneonta wins this one as well to avenge the earlier loss to the Bears. Should be lots of points... Oneonta 89 Potsdam 84

I think Oneonta beats the Bears and claims the 5th seed with a 10-8 record. I also think Plattsburgh helps out the Bears and defeats New Paltz giving both the Hawks and the Bears 9-9 records. Potsdam wins the tiebreaker by virtue of their 2 wins over New Paltz and claims the 6th seed. 



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Looks like an interesting night in Oneonta with 4 techs by Plattsburgh; I'll let magic fill us in on the details.

ronk,
I don't know why all the technicals occurred. I was watching the game and saw a little scuffle break out between two players, one from each team. I have no idea why there were 4 technicals called on 3 different players. There wasn't much time left 1:27 and Plattsburgh was down 10 points and not likely to win anyway. The refs for this game were terrible, missing calls all over the place and calling ticky tack fouls and not calling obvious fouls. There were bad calls on both sides and Oneonta probably got the worst of it. Their big man, Joe Bull, had 3 fouls called on him in the first 7 minutes of the game and only played 19 minutes, he normally plays 35 to 40 minutes in a close game.

One thing I've never seen before was a player (Oneonta's Kevin Mackin) standing at the foul line taking 8 straight free throws and then replaced by another player (Oneonta's Deegan Harrison)  who took a pair giving them 10 straight free throws. They made 8 of the 10, but as I said, it didn't matter they already had the game won.

Oneonta played great and the most important stat....they had 12 made three pointers....we had 0x12. ::) :o They deserved to win the game.     

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TUESDAY 2/12
NVU Johnson at NVU Lyndon 5:30
Amherst at Hamilton 6:00

WEDNESDAY 2/13
Wabash at Wittenberg 7:00
Nichols at Gordon 7:30
Pfeiffer at Greensboro 7:30
Oshkosh at La Crosse 8:00
St. Thomas at St. John's 8:00

SATURDAY 2/16
Capital at Mount Union 2:00
Greenville at Webster 4:00
Pomona Pitzer at Occidental

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East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 15, 2019, 09:19:49 pm »
Final scores on a crazy day.

Oneonta 80 Plattsburgh 62

Oswego 85 Brockport 65

Potsdam 59 New Paltz 55

Geneseo 64 Cortland 49

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East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 15, 2019, 08:28:02 pm »
Other scores.

Oswego leads brockport 50-36 with 19 minutes to play in the game.

Geneseo leads Cortland 44-31 with 14 minutes to play in the game.

Potsdam leads New Paltz 33-32 with 14:45 left in the game.

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East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 15, 2019, 08:24:06 pm »
Oneonta 44 Plattsburgh 38 at the half.

Red Dragons get three 3 pointers in 61 seconds to go from 3 points down to up 6 at the break.

Oneonta is led by Kevin Mackin with 14 points. 4x10 from 3 point land.
Andres Rivera with 9 points and 4 rebounds.
Carson Jacobs with 6 points and 5 rebounds.


Jon Patron with 10 points and 5 boards to lead the Cardinals
Chris Middleton with 9 points and 3 rebounds.
Travis Cox with 6 points and 4 rebounds.
Ian Howard with 5 points and 5 rebounds.

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East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 15, 2019, 06:42:36 pm »
Feb. 15    The Last Weekend
       
Eight teams hitting the hardwood tonight. Seven of them with hopes of upward mobility. Lots of factors in play from the top seed to the last seed. Seven teams fighting for six spots. Who will be the odd man out? Who will host the final four? Who will host a first round playoff game. Some of those questions could be answered by 9:30 tonight. Others may have to wait until 6:00 PM tomorrow. So, here we go with some quick picks.
   


Cortland State  @  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

Geneseo only won 4 conference games this season but all 4 wins were at home and they beat 3 teams that could be playoff bound including Brockport. So it's no stretch to say that they could come up roses in this game. Especially the day after Valentine's Day. A win here would help make the season for this young team. Cortland needs to win if they have any desires to be the 3 seed as opposed to the 4th seed. I'm not sure if it matters. Also the possibility that New Paltz could slip ahead of these Red Dragons and get a home playoff game making Cortland hit the road for Round 1.

The oddsmakers have made Cortland a solid 10 point favorite in this one. They won the first matchup by 9 points back in early December. This one could be a little closer. Cortland 77 Geneseo 69. 


Oswego State  @  Brockport State        7:30 PM   Featured Game of the Night

Oswego needs to right a ship that's listing more than a little  in their last 4 games. The Lakers only have 5 losses all year but 3 of them have come in the past 13 days and they could lose their 3rd straight game tonight. They beat 4 of the other top teams in the YAC in their first go around but have lost to 3 of those teams on the flip side. Brockport is the remaining team and the Golden Eagles would also like to clinch a first round bye. A win here would do that. Oswego won at home by 10 points in early December and the Lakers are favored by 3 points in this one. I'm rooting for the Golden Eagles, hopeful that my Cardinals can possibly host the playoffs next weekend. Brockport 75 Oswego 72.       


Potsdam State  @  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

The Bears have come a long way this year and deserve to make the playoffs. The Hawks have come a long way this year and deserve to make the playoffs. I echo All-Time's post about co-COTY and can think of some good reasons why 5 coaches deserve Coach of the Year honors, this season, in the YAC, but Coach Bechtel and Coach Kenney are at the top of that list with the turnarounds the Bears and Hawks have made. I hate to see either of these teams miss out on the playoffs, but Oneonta won't go away quietly in the night.

The oddsmakers have made the Bears a slim 1 point road favorite in this one and I'm puzzled as to why. The Bears won at home by a 73-71 margin. That doesn't give me a lot of hope they can repeat on the road. The Bears are only 2-5 in road conference games although they did win one of those games at Cortland. The Hawks can clinch a playoff spot with a win, regardless of what happens elsewhere. Potsdam can't clinch because of the game they have with Oneonta tomorrow. They wouldn't mind a little help from the Cardinals tonight, though. If all three teams...New Paltz, Potsdam and Oneonta end up in a 3-way tie at 9-9, which is a distinct possibility, Oneonta is the loser because they would only be 1-3 against the other two teams. Potsdam would be 2-2 and New Paltz would be 2-2. Oneonta and New Paltz can both go 2-0 this weekend and both clinch. Potsdam can go 2-0 and clinch along with New Paltz. Got all that?...good. I think the Hawks win this one 73-70 but I sure hope I'm wrong about that.       



Plattsburgh State  @  Oneonta State    7:30 PM

The Cardinals still have hopes of hosting the final four of the SUNYAC Tournament. What didn't seem possible 2 weeks ago when they were 3 games and a tiebreaker (best road record) behind Oswego has now turned into a "down to the wire" contest. Plattsburgh has to win out and hope the Lakers suffer another loss. There will be quite a contingent in Plattsburgh rooting very hard for the Brockport Golden Eagles to help them out tonight against Oswego.

Oneonta needs to win out to secure a playoff game or hope that Potsdam loses both their games this weekend. The Red Dragons can take care of part of that 0-2 Bears weekend by beating Potsdam tomorrow but a win tonight will be a big step in the right direction.

Plattsburgh has won the last 8 games against the Red Dragons and is 10-1 in the last 5 and a half seasons. They won the earlier game in Plattsburgh 84-69. They are favored by 5 points in tonight's game. I think they win by a few more than that.   
Plattsburgh 85 Oneonta 76   

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East Region / Re: Liberty League
« on: February 14, 2019, 09:38:24 am »
A question for the LL Basketball fans (I am much more familiar with football), what is the consensus that NESCAC has 4 teams in the national top 25, and LL has zero.  Fair assessment of talent?  I know there are very few chances for the leagues playing each other ( I think Bard played Hamilton early in the season), but what is the consensus on overall basketball talent. Certainly in football, there would never be a chance of having 4 NESCAC schools ranked ahead of a the entire LL.

The NESCAC has 3 or 4 teams in the Top 25 more years than they don't. Some years they have had 5 teams in the Top 25 and usually have at least 3 teams in the NCAA tournament. The LL isn't having a great year but even if they were 2 teams would be the most the LL would see in the Top 25, but usually it's just one. Hobart and Skidmore have made the poll in the past few years, sporadically. Don't think anyone else has.  Even SLU, in the year they made it to the Sweet 16, didn't crack the Top 25.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Big games today
« on: February 14, 2019, 09:05:57 am »
I always read your stuff, and have for a long time. And this page is one of my favorites. By the way, just look at the views total each day and you can tell how many people visit each and every day.  You'll be surprised at how many people actually do read your stuff. I'm number 47861  at 9 AM. Check later in the day to see how many posters have stopped by.  You'll be  :o      And plus K for doing all the work to put this page together.

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East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 14, 2019, 03:22:49 am »
So when the first set of regional rankings is released Plattsburgh State is #2 in the East. Two days later they play the 7th ranked team in the region, 15-5 Cortland State and win that game. The next day they play the #1 team in the region 18-3 Oswego State and beat them. So when the next set of regional rankings is released, where are they ranked?.....#1 right?.....Nope #2.  Another team that was #3 jumped over them and went into the top spot. That team, Rochester, also won 2 games. They beat a 13-7 Chicago team that was ranked #8 in the Central region. Two days later they beat an unranked 14-7 Washington U team also from the Central region.   

So lets review this one more time. You are #2....you beat #7 and #1 on consecutive days and you don't move into the #1 spot. Instead #3 who beats a #8 and after a day off beats a team that's unranked, jumps the #2 team and gets the top spot. I wonder when was the last time that happened and where?  ???

I know all about the Results versus Regionally Ranked Opponents and I know about the SOS stuff but it just doesn't seem right when things like this occur. 

That's all I'm going to say about that. I'm not even going to say that I smell a....sniff...sniff....sniffff....rat. :o       

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Pick-ems, fantasy leagues, etc. / Re: D3 Men's National Pick Em League
« on: February 13, 2019, 10:25:37 pm »
We have a Winner


After today's games  augie77 who went 6-1 in the first 7 games has clinched the Pick Em Crown. He has 86 wins and no one can get more than 85. If Greg had not changed 2 of his picks, which were both winners that became losers, he would have been 5-2 instead of 3-4 and could have changed his final 3 picks, which were identical to augie77's final 3, and maybe snuck in the back door.

Congratulation augie77 on back to back crowns, an official "Twopeater". Good job.  8-)   

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Pick-ems, fantasy leagues, etc. / Re: D3 Men's National Pick Em League
« on: February 13, 2019, 09:57:23 pm »
Final Scores

NVU Johnson 93 at NVU Lyndon 105 
Amherst 77 at Hamilton 81
Wabash 62 at Wittenberg 76
Nichols 107 at Gordon 93
Pfeiffer 117 at Greensboro 96
Oshkosh 61 at La Crosse 66
St. Thomas 75 at St. John's 94

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East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 13, 2019, 07:29:47 pm »
Oneonta defeats Oswego by a final score 0f 70-55.   Thank you Red Dragons!    Go Brockport!

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Pick-ems, fantasy leagues, etc. / Re: D3 Men's National Pick Em League
« on: February 13, 2019, 06:53:58 pm »
TUESDAY 2/12
NVU Johnson at NVU Lyndon 5:30
Amherst at Hamilton 6:00

WEDNESDAY 2/13
Wabash at Wittenberg 7:00
Nichols at Gordon 7:30
Pfeiffer at Greensboro 7:30
Oshkosh at La Crosse 8:00
St. Thomas at St. John's 8:00

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Pick-ems, fantasy leagues, etc. / Re: D3 Men's National Pick Em League
« on: February 13, 2019, 05:26:19 pm »
TUESDAY 2/12
NVU Johnson at NVU Lyndon 5:30
Amherst at Hamilton 6:00

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