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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: October 03, 2020, 01:58:49 pm »
I sure hope that the LL and E8 figure out a way to get a few games played this spring.  PA high school football is in full swing, limiting spectators, but so far so good.
I think if PA HS football can do it , LL needs to  give the boys the Spring green light. Ohio Conference has their Spring schedule up....LL gotta get going. Watching a little of Adrian playing Trine and I am soooo missing Football on such a beautiful Fall day. The crazy thing in NY is that HS soccer is being played but no Football .......I guess Cuomo doesn't know how much aggressive contact there is in soccer game?

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: October 03, 2020, 08:14:35 am »
Adrian hosts Trine for a D3 football game.....good luck to both teams

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: August 22, 2020, 08:01:51 am »
Hobart completed student check in today. So far so good.  Ontario County has only  had 300 or so cases, so hopefully all goes well. Hoping that a small school in an isolated county in Upstate NY, can have a safe and successful fall term.

Mayberry is buzzing now with check-in at Alfred U. and Alfred State underway. Classes begin Monday, August 24 with AU offering all classes online for first two weeks, then in-person classes in socially-distanced classrooms with all expected to wear masks. Spoke with a few parents from Long Island and Connecticut this morning. They seemed pleased to learn that Allegany County (population 46,000) had only 85 COVID-19 cases thus far, with 83 recovered and just 1 fatality. Just hoping students take the social distancing seriously now, so that perhaps restrictions can eventually be lifted later without interruption of on-campus classes.
Hey Pep,
     It took a global pandemic to cancel the Statesmen-Saxon Warrior opener this season. I hope the Mayberry matchup will be rescheduled next year and each campus thrives safely and their students make the most of the live campus experience this Fall. The Statesmen will be using the extra time to practice some new packages that should surprise the mighty Saxon Warriors when we next meet ;)

East Region football / Re: FB: Empire 8
« on: July 21, 2020, 08:51:09 am »
PBR...................THAT was great!!!! What an awesome guy and even better pair. When Gifford came on board it was like production gold.

There was nothing and will NEVER be anything like Monday Night Football back in the heyday. NOTHING has come close (no, Sunday Night Football NOW couldn't hold Monday Night Football's jock from THEN) ;)
I wholeheartedly agree, they could make two no win teams seem like the super bowl of entertainment ;D

East Region football / Re: FB: Empire 8
« on: July 20, 2020, 08:18:30 am »
Empire 8 has cancelled ALL fall sports. Looking into providing some sort of competition during spring semester for fall sports teams.
    Very disappointing, I hope the Statesmen and Saxon's will reschedule whenever things open up. Hobart has not cancelled the "season" yet, but with fewer colleges remaining , it is just a matter of time. The testing costs are also a budget buster for many , so until there is an effective therapeutic or vaccine we are probably limited to youtubes of  past contests. The best to all of Mayberry! 

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: July 16, 2020, 10:04:17 pm »
I believe that in theory you are correct.

Those teams who have not yet canceled their seasons, could start play on September 26th (as directed by the league) play 4 games this fall; and nobody would lose the year of eligibility.

What I think is interesting about all this, is that while most of us think about the seniors getting to play out their last year; the NCAA is giving the extra year to everybody....a freshman this fall can practice all season, play in 4 games, and then get four full years in after this. The extra developmental time and reps that the young guys get at the few schools who decide to go this route, could be hugely beneficial over the course of the next few years.

And playing this fall (limited games), and full season next year, has got to safer than playing full spring followed by full fall
So, PA is planning on playing HS Football and LL has a likely 4 game schedule if they play at all?  I think 21 of the Street &Smith top 25 in D3 are still alive . I wish everyone the best in whatever choice they make and if youre at risk please mitigate appropriately, but if I were  playing age again Id love to kick Covid in the ass🤬

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: July 13, 2020, 06:16:56 pm »
I think these LL "president" meetings had some sort of agreement that schools basically need to make decisions on what is best for each school.  The NCAA is going to have to make a decision at some point, but I don't see them changing the playoffs to the spring no matter what.  It will be fall or cancel.  In the end each school is unique and they need to make decisions based on that.

Also noticed Hobart has some coaching openings, including possibly the DC?

From what I understand, the LL presidents had near unanimity to play football this season, I guess we know who the dissenting vote was.  For now there are still 5 teams from LL and all 7 from E8 committed to play.  Seems like we could still puzzle together a season.  Across the country there will be at least 160-170 teams playing and upstate NY is as safe a place as there is in the country right now, average virus count is 2.4/100,000 or less. 

Regarding the HC coaching staff, there were some budget cuts after the Spring.  DC from 2019 has left, but there are strong candidates among the staff.  I just don't think DeWall has officially named his DC yet.
Coaching positions are a good sign that Hobart is trying to make it work. Hobart has built into the budget all the testing required by the NCAA , I think 72 hours before each game, well, without Union and RPI, travel times will be reasonable. Hopefully things will allow for a season and it will be conducted safely .

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: July 08, 2020, 08:10:44 am »
Hmmm, at the rate leagues are cancelling Fall football  the remaining LL teams could have 3 teams in the NCAA playoffs ;D. Maybe we can have real regional NCAA Championship brackets this year.( and Ithaca can have their second shot at Hobart after we take care of business at the BOZ in the regular season  ;)  This will continue to be a strange year as we try to get back to normal and the college world responds to living with the virus...Congrats to the Liberty League college Presidents for stepping up to  give all Fall sports a chance to compete....we can do this as long as everyone is disciplined on and off the field. As far as Spring Football, I wouldn't be counting on it as colleges that have cancelled this Fall will be tentative to embrace a Spring with no vaccine . I'm also thinking they will be concerned by the challenges experienced in the Fall as there will inevitably be positive cases in  sports  that will interrupt participation and challenge coaches and administrations once they start their seasons. Team bubbles yield Championships ??? It will be a crazy year for sports, and life in general. Let's get on with it . 

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: July 04, 2020, 02:12:44 pm »

East Region football / Re: FB: Empire 8
« on: July 03, 2020, 08:37:06 am »
Fingers crossed for rescheduling Alfred game. Heck, fingers crossed for any game ???

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: July 02, 2020, 09:07:00 am »
Not 100% official yet, but word is the LL is leaning towards starting the FB season in Wk 4 - 9/26 and playing all in league plus 2 OOC games. I'm guessing those OOC overlap games are probably E8, but we'll have to wait and see. Assuming it stands, the first wkd would include:

St. Lawrence   Hartwick                   TBA   
Cortland        Buffalo State        12 PM   
Ithaca        St. John Fisher        1 PM   
Alfred        Rochester                 6 PM
Keystone        Hobart                     6 PM
At this point, I am happy for any sign there will be life on campus and Football. We have to get back to living life as we contain the risk intelligently. I hope Hobart can reschedule the Alfred game with the loss of RPI from the schedule. I know Hobart is committed to a season as much as possible subject to  state intervention  and local community health developments. Fingers crossed for everyone staying healthy and seeing the Statesmen take the field at 6pm on 9/26 for the 2020 season(whether live at the BOZ or from a viewing position outside the BOZ )....GOBART!

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: June 23, 2020, 08:46:06 am »
Bowdoin has announced that due to mostly remote learning this fall, that fall sports will not have a 2020 season. I am thinking that a number of NESCAC schools have not made a final decision about the Football season. While I believe that young athletes and their coaches/ staff should have a season ( proper face coverings and distancing for at risk/older coaches and staff should be practiced) I have to respect those that make these health decisions. That said, I'm hoping  to see some football/sports this fall and getting a little bit of "normal" back in life.

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: June 17, 2020, 03:39:42 pm »
Lindy's Sports predicts Union at #6 and Hobart at #20 with Hobart's Emmett Forde first team defense and Rayshawn Boswell first team Returner, Union's Driscoll first team OL and Ike Irabor second team RB, Saints Max Warden first team OL and Ethan Roberts second team LB...all of this just one source's forecast, but pretty nice recognition for the LL.

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: May 19, 2020, 09:27:07 am »
If you substitute NCAA football for Disney World, what percentage of players/parents would sign?  I bet the majority

Just curious, why do you assume the majority would come back?

I think a sizeable chunk would not come back or (in the case of incoming freshman) won't come at all. Not sure if that's 10 percent, 30, 50 or something else, but the number bandied about in terms of registrations dropping is 10 - 30 percent. Getting 70-90 percent back would still be a majority but I assume a lot of programs cannot stand to lose that chunk of their roster. The smaller programs need the bodies and the larger programs need the money those bodies generate.

I have a few reasons for feeling this way:
1.  The single segment of society least affected by COVID 19 is the under the 24 yo age group.  In this age group, the death rate is under 0.2% (that is death/confirmed case) and the true rate is probably dramatically lower, since it is well established that there are many asymptomatic carriers of the disease, and we only test symptomatic individuals.
2.  I worry about the mental health of this age group, as much as the physical health.  How long can we continue to keep college age students home with mom and dad?  Not healthy for anyone
3.  If we take this group of healthy students, and separate them from the more at risk members of society, then even if they become asymptomatic carriers, there is a lower chance of spread to at risk groups. 
4.  Agree that playing sports (except perhaps golf) eliminates social distancing and certainly no chance of wearing a mask.  But, who cares?  These are healthy kids, tested, closely monitored and separated from the rest of at risk society.
5.  We need to draw a line in the sand at some point.  If you want to close colleges until a vaccine is developed, tested, manufactured, distributed and then given.....18 months may be a pipe dream
6.  Finally, going to college and playing sports is voluntary.  If you don't want to go, don't.  If you don't want to play, don't.
Oline, these are logical and thoughtful points, +k. Keeping my fingers crossed for a negligible uptick in the virus as NYS opens up each stage, and a balanced approach by NYS  governance to decision making as we hopefully resume life responsibly until there is a vaccine .  I know Hobart and William Smith care deeply for the health and safety of our students, faculty and staff but we also must balance the risks with the current and future rewards that the community offers to the students when functioning as intended. I've got my binoculars and a spot on the soccer practice field overlooking the Boz if necessary, with my EarPods tuned to Ted Baker calling the game with a slight "homer" lean to the broadcast.   

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: May 13, 2020, 10:11:34 am »
Finger Lakes Region is one of three NYS regions to get the green light for Phase One effective May 15. Good news for HWS and Rochester. Not sure what this means for football after Fauci comment that football is a difficult sport for the virus.  Goodell and NFL are sending big bucks on research to keep NFL players safe and keep prospects of season positive. Lots to happen in the next few months that will hopefully get colleges open(Phase 4 in NY) and athletes back to competition safely. Hobart Football is lucky to have Rochester based medical resources close by with some Hobart grads in key medical positions to guide the return. Stay safe and hopefully we will see some football this Fall, as these student athletes expect to participate. Cuomo ....I hope you love football ;D

I understand your optimism Bartman but I really don't see a path to Division III football this fall. Too many added costs and headaches for the schools to worry about athletics. As a football fan, already well into the fourth quarter of life, it really hurts. I do think we'll have the NFL and maybe some NCAA FCS...yeah,maybe... One can only hope.  :'(   
Without athletics for these schools, the financial hit will be dramatic since many of the kids will delay attendance if online is the choice or losing a year of sports in the Fall. At HWS, 35% of our students are athletes and the football roster is about 100 . HWS will survive this hit, but expect quite a few colleges to close in this economic stress due to reliance on tuition. This will not immediately impact the LL Football schools with 200MM+ Endowments , but I can count many schools in New York that were hurting with the change in demographics and this crisis is pretty much the nail in the coffin. UFan Bill, we will continue our fight back to normalcy and hope for the best.

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