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Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: November 21, 2017, 09:21:06 pm »
Marietta had a bit of a hangover from their big weekend and got off to a sluggish start against frostburg. Effort in the first half was a little lacking and they struggled in the opening stanza.

They came out of the locker room and turned up the heat on the second frame. Eventually pulling away.

Frostburg did a good job of slowing down Anthony Wallace. But this Marietta team is deep. Newcomers DeVaughn Winguard and Avery Williams had strong games. And Dillion young who had two quiet games to start the season, put up 20 points tonite.

Mideast Region / Re: BB: OAC: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: May 08, 2017, 04:08:41 pm »
Phil Mary has first team AA type numbers this year.  That 0.88 ERA is insane.  He may be a candidate for national pitcher of the year.  Watched him pitch, and he is not a a power guy, but is ridiculously effective. Locates well and keeps hitters off balance.  He is very deserving. 

I think Hesse is a shoe in for Coach of the Year. 

I really can't speak to any one particular player who stood out to me as a dominating force this year which I saw.  (It won't be someone from Marietta). 

Mideast Region / Re: BB: OAC: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: May 02, 2017, 08:53:52 am »
Good season for Mount Union.  They were impressive.

1.  Mount 15-2  (clinched top seed)
2.  Marietta 12-4 (clinched #2 seed)
3.  Otterbein 9-7 (@MUSK)
4.  JCU 9-7 (@CAP)

5.  BW 10-8 (Season Complete)
6.  Berg 8-8 (WILM)
7.  ONU 7-9 (@MAR)

The race for third.

Right now Otterbein has the tie breaker over JCU (Otterbein is 1-1 vs. Mount and JCU is 0-2, they split the regular season).  Ott plays at Muskingum. JCU plays at Capital.  Both make the tourney with sweeps on Saturday. 

Berg makes things interesting if (when) they sweep Wilmington to go to 10-8.

So then we get to the potential mess of 10-8 teams. 

OTT is 1-1 vs JCU, 0-2 vs. BERG, 1-1 vs. BW
JCU is 1-1 vs. OTT, 2-0 vs. Berg, 1-1 vs BW
BW is 1-1 vs. OTT, 1-1 vs JCU and 0-2 vs. Berg
Berg is 2-0 vs. OTT, 0-2 vs. JCU and 2-0 vs. BW. 

This means OTT and JCU each split, and Berg sweeps Wilmington.

BERG is 4-2 vs the four teams,
JCU is 4-2 vs. the four teams.
OTT is 2-4 vs. the four teams.
BW is 2-4 vs the four teams. 

By my understanding (which could be wrong)  this would eliminate OTT and BW, and JCU would be the 3 and Berg the 4. 

JCU-Berg-BW  (otterbein sweeps and clinches the 3, JCU splits)

JCU is 3-1
Berg is 2-2
BW is 1-3

JCU is #4

OTT, Berg & BW (JCU sweeps clinches the 3, ott splits)

BERG is 4-0
BW is 1-2
OTT is 1-3

Berg is the 4

BW-JCU-OTT (JCU and OTT both split, Berg loses at least one to Wilmington).

BW is 2-2
JCU is 2-2
OTT is 2-2

So now we go to record vs other teams....BW is 0-2 against Mount, JCU is 0-2 against Mount, OTT is 1-1 against Mount.

Ott is the 3.

For the fourth seed....Both are 0-2 vs. mount, both are 1-1 vs MAR, both are 1-1 vs. OTT, JCU is 2-0 vs. Berg, BW is 0-2 vs. Berg.

JCU is the 4.

Northern gets to sniff around tie break scenarios if they sweep MAR, JCU and BW get swept, and Berg loses one to Wilimington. 

JCU's chances to make the tourney are strong. 
OTT's chances are pretty good.
BW needs a lot of help ( OTT and JCU getting swept and not being in a tie break situation with Berg).
Berg needs two win two and get a little help. 

Clear as mud.

Mideast Region / Re: BB: OAC: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: April 23, 2017, 06:52:05 pm »
Kudos to mount as barring a total flop against a pretty bad Wilmington team will host the oac tourney

Mideast Region / Re: BB: OAC: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: April 18, 2017, 04:46:04 pm »
If Marietta gets going at the plate, they can be a very dangerous team.  That is a big "if" right now.  As a team the Pioneers are hitting a lowly .254.  50 points lower than their worst average in the last decade.  That's good for 9th in the conference too.  Starting pitching has been quite good, suprisingly so.  Oberhelman and Nieberding have exceeded my expectations this year.  Lutrell threw his best game last week.  Crowl who has battled arm issues is showing signs of improvement as well.  The two primary bullpen guys (Stover and Antill) have been solid as well.  The rest of the pen struggles mightily.  But the lack of offensive production could prove to be problematic down the stretch.  It has a tendency to keep teams closer than they should be (Heidelberg pitching was nothing special, yet they looked like killers on the hill last week).  Any other year I would say I like the Pios chances with the schedule they have.  I'm guessing it is going to be pins and needles down the stretch. 

Big double header coming up between Mount and Otterbein.  Mount needs to at least split this to stay in the hunt without help.  A sweep likely will lock it up for them, I think. 

Mideast Region / Re: BB: OAC: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: March 30, 2017, 04:11:49 pm »
Injuries are a significant problem for Marietta this year.

Petrucci has a pulled hamstring.  This is maybe the biggest one of the year. The defense has taken a step backwards without him up the middle.  He is also a quality stick at the plate.  Hopefullly he returns this weekend against Musky and Thomas More.

Tommy Crowl has battled arm problems since last fall.  he was the #2 guy for the past two seasons, and now he's rarely used.

Tanner Wood was a senior who started out the season well hitting the ball.  He was a catcher/DH/Outfielder.  He completely wrecked his non throwing elbow, and is likely out.  He is a senior.

Austin Eaton is a young pitcher who is also hurt.

Marietta is struggling a lot right now.  Pitching is a concern for certain. The hitting is not good and their defense, by normal standards, is just plain bad.  That's not a good combination for a baseball team. 

They were competitive with LaRoche until late home runs blew the games open.  Looks to be a tough year in the southeastern part of the state.

Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: February 21, 2017, 10:48:12 pm »
I'm guessing bw wasn't expecting to host a game in the tourney.

Marietta played very poorly, cold shooting and ugly basketball.  Survived in overtime, though. The pioneers attempted 44 free throws tonight. They were 8-33 from the floor in the second half.  This game was very ugly.

Musky @ bw
Mount at Marietta.

Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: February 18, 2017, 07:50:44 pm »
Tourney looks to be...

8 berg @ 1 mar
7 musk @ 2 jcu
6 bw @ 3 onu
5 cap @ mount

Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: February 16, 2017, 09:24:48 am »
So the league race took shape last night....

Seed and Scenario

1.  ONU or Marietta:  They play on Saturday.  Winner is the top seed.
2.  JCU.  Regardless of the outcome of the game above, JCU will be the 2 with a win over CAP.  ONU would have the the tie breaker over JCU by being 2-0 vs. MAR.  Marietta would be a game ahead if the Pios win.
3.  Assuming JCU takes care of business against Cap, ONU or Marietta:  Loser goes here.  ONU would be a game behind JCU. Marietta would fall to the three in a three way tie because they would be 0-2 against ONU.  However, there is a chance with an ONU loss and a JCU loss, JCU could be the three.
4.  Most likely Mount Union.  Mount is the outright 4 seed with  a win over last place Ott. If they lose, then:  Two way tie possibilities. Mount and BW (1-1), Mount wins by being 1-1 vs. ONU.  Mount and Muskingum (Mount is 2-0), Mount wins tie. Mount and Cap Mount Mount is 2-0.   Mount would come out on top in a three way tie which involves Muskingum or Capital due to being 2-0 against both of them and BW splitting with both. 
5.  So the contenders for this seed are Musk, BW and Cap who are all 7-10.  The games:
  • MUSK @ Berg
  • BW @ Wilm
  • CAP @ JCU
  • All Three are 1-1 against each other
A Muskingum win looks like it gives them the 5th seed.  The tie breaker vs BW is the win against JCU.  The tie breaker against Cap would be their 2-0 record vs Wilmington where Cap is 0-2. 
A muskingum loss opens the door for the others, but there could still be a 4 way tie for the fifth spot if both BW and CAP lose on Saturday.
  • If Berg loses to Muskingum they will be 8th
  • Lots of other possibilities.

Wilmington and Ott have been eliminated.

My picks...

Marietta over ONU at home.
JCU over Cap (Mike Moran's last regular season home game as coach...)
Mount over Ott
Musk over Berg
BW over Wilmington.

My predictions for the tourney.

1.  Marietta vs. 8. Berg
2.  JCU vs. 7. Cap
3.  ONU vs. 6. BW
4. Mount vs. 5. Musk

(I could see BW and Muskingum switching spots though).

Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: February 15, 2017, 09:00:17 am »
Today's most interesting match ups with playoff implications:

Mount @ BW:  Mount has battled injury problems of late.  BW is not as deep as they were the past few years.  This could be an interesting matchup.
Wilmington @ Cap:  If the quakers want in, they need to win this on and again on Saturday.  Cap is fighting to stay in the tourney.  Wilmington is an athletic team. 

The others...

JCU @ Berg:  Berg is athletic, but the Streaks are a very strong team.  JCU is still in the hunt for the top seed. 
OTT @ ONU: ONU hung 50 on the cardinals last time and lost.  Oh wait this isn't football, 50 is not that impressive.  ONU should roll big.
MUSK @ MAR:  Marietta is tough at home.  The last time these two rivals squared off Marietta hung 100 on the Muskies.  If Marietta is looking too far ahead, they should handle business.

Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: February 13, 2017, 10:18:37 am »
Two games to go in the regular season, the race for #1 seed and league title heats up. 

Marietta:  Musk, ONU:  Win out.  It is simple. It gets really murky if Marietta loses to Muskingum and beats ONU.  Marietta and JCU would potentially have identical records against the OAC, and the top seed would be determined by a coin toss.  Yuck.  If Marietta beats Musky and loses to ONU, Marietta potentially falls to the third seed depending on other outcomes.

ONU: OTT, @MAR:  Win out.  A loss to otterbein means chaos must ensue in Berea and Marietta for them to have a chance. Nothing is impossible in basketball, but some things are more likely than others.

JCU: @Berg, Cap:  Win out and hope for help.  JCU really needs Marietta to lose to Muskingum and beat Northern or Northern to lose to Otterbein and beat Marietta.  An ONU-JCU tie is won by ONU because ONU would be 2-0 against MAR.

The battle for 4th.

Contenders. Mount (8-8) Musk (7-9) BW, CAP, and Berg (all 6-10)

Mount: @BW, @ OTT:  Win one and they are the 4.  They are 2-0 against Musky which would break a tie.  Beating BW would also push BW out of the race for fourth.
Musky:  @MAR, @BERG: Win out and hope Mount loses two.  Might be a tall order to go to Marietta and win. 
BW, CAP and Berg: Win out, hope Mount loses two, and Muskingum loses at least one, then who knows.  I don't have the time to go through the combinations, as that would be total chaos.

The race for 8th....

Wilmington has a chance.  They play cap and BW.  They would need to win both.  Then they need CAP to also lose to JCU.  At that point Wilmington would be 2-0 against Capital and break the possible tie.  A tie with BW is also possible, but you have to start from the top down to figure out who did what against whom.....I'm not interested enough to figure that out for the 8 seed.

Wilmington if they lose one.

Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: February 09, 2017, 08:15:55 am »
DeAllen Jackson is one of the better players I have seen in the past four or five years.  Somehow Marietta was able to shut him down once and contain him in the other game.  He is deceptively strong and can get his shot any time he wants.  He is almost always one of the best players on the floor in any game Mount Union plays. 

Kukura has been a mystery this year.  Considering what he has done in past seasons, he did not live up to my expectations when I saw him against Marietta.  Perhaps he is not 100% healthy.  He looked heavy when they were here in Marietta.  I don't mean this to be disparaging towards him, but having seen him play the past couple of years, I was expecting much more. 

Mount lost a lot of young men to graduation in the past couple of years.  They are not as deep and dynamic this year as they were the past couple of seasons.

Capital decided they were going to let anyone else beat them other than AJ Edwards, and while the strategy had Marietta a little frustrated early on, the perimeter guys from Marietta got going in a big way and took control.  Dillon Young was 9-11 from the floor and 7-8 from behind the arc.  He had a lot of open looks as Capital continuously sagged off of him to keep the ball from entering the post.  And Young made them pay for it.   

Capital could be a real handful in the coming years.  They have three freshman bigs who are pretty decent players already.  If they can continue to develop, they will give some teams fits. They are also very young as a whole.

The top four all hold serve against opponents they should have defeated.  There will be some shake up on Saturday when ONU and JCU meet in University Heights. 

The biggest surprise, for me, this year has been Northern.  I didn't expect them to be in the hunt for the league crown.
The biggest disappointment for me has been BW.  They just don't have enough guys to make plays.  Cam Kuhn is still a tremendous player, and Fetherhoff is very good, but beyond those guys, it is a mixed bag. 

Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: February 08, 2017, 10:31:41 am »
Does anyone have/know the tiebreaker criteria for the OAC tournament seeding process?

So the top of league race with four to play....

Marietta:  Cap, @Wilm, Musk, ONU
ONU: Berg, @JCU, OTT, @Mar

ONU's game against JCU is not a deal breaker for them to be the top seed.  They can lose that one and beat Marietta and still claim the top spot. 
Marietta simply has to win out.  Losing one of their other three games and beating ONU doesn't look like a real positive scenario for the pioneers to be the top seed.

JCU:  @BW, ONU, @Berg, Cap.

JCU has to win one of four to clinch the 3rd seed in the tournament. 

If JCU wins out, they put themselves in an interesting spot to potentially be co-champs, with a lot riding on the ONU@MAR game.  If JCU finishes 15-3, Northern will have at least three losses.  In a three way tie (which means that ONU likely has to win @Marietta) ONU would still be the top seed as they would be 3-1 in the group, JCU would be the 2 as they are 2-2, and Marietta would be the three at 1-3. 

JCU's hope to be the top seed is to win out, have Marietta beat ONU (to give the bears four losses) and lose to someone who finishes below Muskingum (ie Wilmington).

It is basketball. Anything can happen on any given night.

Mideast Region / Re: Rank the Mideast Region
« on: May 17, 2016, 04:52:58 pm »
The other thing that didn't help Ott was that the OAC as a whole was down.  Lots of .500 teams this year including two of the teams that made the OAC tournament.  The records of the 2nd-4th place teams didn't do them any favors.  Normally you could have counted on something more like Etta being 28-12 and BW/JCU being 25-15 or thereabouts.   

True to a point....The OAC is down.  Otterbein had the best overall record, and you don't play yourself, so there is no benefit to that, but it is worth noting, that the only OAC school with a worse SOS than Otterbein is Wilmington.  BW, JCU, and Marietta all had top 50 SOS rankings this year and played in the same conference.  IS the difference between 212 and 34 playing Otterbein 2 or three times vs playing BW two or three times? 

I would also venture a guess that conferences probably look very similar from top to bottom from an overall W-L perspective.  There are bad and mediocre teams in every conference. 

I really think it goes beyond what is in your conference.   Scheduling good teams and having decent results against that competition is given a lot more weight when it comes time to the post season selection.   They sent that message loudly to Wooster last year.  I hope Otterbein heard them again. 

Mideast Region / Re: Rank the Mideast Region
« on: May 17, 2016, 07:23:51 am »
Well they moved up one or two places in the regional rankings today, and they continue to recieve votes in the d3 poll.
And I agree, they should not wait until the end to schedule a tough opponent. Looks like they have done that for a few years now.
With Ott being left home hopefully we will see a stronger schedule for them next year. Played one game against a BAD D1 team and then 3 against North Central. Did not play very strong teams when they went down south. Hopefully they change their MO next year.

I think otterbein is at a slight disadvantage for spring break. It appears their Florida trip doesn't line up with most other d3 schools when everyone else goes south, so the number of opponents is limited. With that said I thought most of the d3 schools in our region would have learned last year when Wooster who had 30+ wins was left at home because of their awful sos.

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