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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: March 15, 2017, 02:08:21 pm »
The NABC released it's All District Teams today.

Jordan Robinson made the Central's First Team, with Aston Francis, Chrishawn Orange, and Alex Sorenson getting Second Team nods.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
« on: March 11, 2017, 08:37:56 am »
Augustana 80  Wartburg  69

2016-17  Goat BeltTm Path
3-19-16  St. Thomas
11-15-16  UW-River Falls
11-19-16  Hope
12-10-16  UW-Stevens Point
12-14-16  St. Thomas
1-11-17  St. Olaf
1-18-17  Carleton
2-25-17  Bethel
3-3-17   UW-River Falls
3-4-17   Wartburg
3-10-17  Augustana

Augustana vs Hanover Saturday night for the privilege of taking The BeltTm to Salem, Va.

Forget the Grey Giovanine Jacket Watch; we're now on Grey Giovanine BeltTM Watch, which is like 30 percent more exciting.

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Central Region / Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: March 10, 2017, 05:44:46 pm »
I think I'd have to agree on Augie. Losing Kallenberger is the biggest blow just because of what all it allows them to do defensively (and offensively too, since a 6'5" post player will require attention at all times) and they lost a bunch of good guards obviously. It all depends on recruiting too, and who knows what Mark Beinborn has up his sleeve. I don't think they're a CCIW Tournament team as constructed next year, but 8-8 or 9-7 should be doable.

Now, if they get some sort of super prospect this spring...

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: March 04, 2017, 09:51:02 pm »
Note to other Sweet 16 teams: Do not let Chrishawn Orange touch the basketball with under 10 seconds to go in a tie game.

That is all.

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Was it "flagrant" or "intentional"?

There was no audio for the stream and I always confuse the terms so I can't tell you, but didn't they do away with the verbiage "intentional" and made all fouls "flagrant 1" or "flagrant 2"? But from watching, the Bethel player was not close to the hoop (just inside half court) and had a clear path (if it was NBA that would have been the call) when the UWRF player fouled him. BU got two FT with no one on the lane and was awarded the ball back and took it out side line out of bounds and proceeded to not score.

I'm assuming from watching the stream (again, no audio, which is a separate issue) that it was a Flagrant 1 based on that theory of a "clear path" or whatever even though that doesn't appear in the rule book, but it would probably fit under the definition of "excessive."

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
« on: March 03, 2017, 11:22:49 pm »
UW-River Falls steals The BeltTM from Bethel in double overtime.

Interested to see how a predatory bird would wear such a glorious cincture.

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Glad I caught the end of that one. Fantastic finish.

Underrated part was Bethel missing both of the flagrant free throws in the first overtime that could've pushed their lead to 6. Great job by the Falcons to take advantage.

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Central Region / Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: March 03, 2017, 08:50:43 pm »
Tip of the hat to the Titans for a good season. Too bad they couldn't make a run.

Congratulations to Wheaton though for finally breaking out of Round 1 with a win over RHIT tonight. Hope they can continue to represent the CCIW well the rest of the way.

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Central Region / Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 28, 2017, 08:55:58 pm »
Looks like the IWU vs. Trine game in Ada, Ohio will be played at 5:30 p.m. EST, so that's 4:30 p.m. in the Central Time Zone.  Sure hope there is some video on this one, from Ohio Northern U.  I'll be getting up early in HK to watch.   

This should be it. I would assume most host sites would have some sort of video streaming anyway.

How many students does ONU have -- seems more like a D2 school to me!  I was on that campus some years ago for the summer teaching gig and it seemed like they had 10K + students at that time and that was a long, long time ago. 

According to their website, looks like just over 3200. Well in the realm of D3. Fairly nice football facility from the one time I was there, but I've never been in their gym or anything.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 27, 2017, 05:17:25 pm »
There are some things that make me scratch my head, and I know someone can help me clear the cob-webs out of my head.

How can the boys at d3hoops have teams like St Norbert and Dennison ranked in their top 15 list, yet they aren't considered good enough to even be considered for the Tourney because they didn't win their Conference?

I understand the two systems are independent of each other.  But, it seems to me that if the goal is to get to NCAA dance, d3hoops should rank them according to the method the NCAA uses for selection.  Why not?

A subjective poll and the criteria for the NCAA Tournament are apples and oranges. The AP poll means nothing for the D-I NCAA Tournament; why does the D3Hoops poll have to be different?

Also, if you have either a .506 (St. Norbert) or worse, a .477 (Denison) SOS, you don't deserve a Pool C bid, Top 25 team or not.

St. Norbert plays in a weak conference and racks up many easy wins in conference play. It makes for a great looking W/L record every year, but because of the general weakness of the teams they play so many games against, their SOS really suffers. Accordingly, if they don't win their conference tournament, trouble can easily result as seen in their failure to be selected this year.

So, if they do win their Conference, they're the 14th best team, and if they don't win it ( I think it was a 3 point game) they're not even considered (regional ranking) for the Tournament.  I call upon the d3hoops guys to pick the best 25 teams when they vote.  Otherwise, why do it; it's fake news.

If they do win their conference they're a Pool A team and we aren't having this conversation.

The poll is an interesting snapshot of who the educated panel of voters thinks are the best 25 teams in D-III, but that's all it is and all it has ever been. It's a point of interest for people but that doesn't mean it has to count for something, hence the AP comparison. I don't know why it has to be based on Tournament criteria. That's what the regional rankings are for. Teams know this going in.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 27, 2017, 02:57:35 pm »
There are some things that make me scratch my head, and I know someone can help me clear the cob-webs out of my head.

How can the boys at d3hoops have teams like St Norbert and Dennison ranked in their top 15 list, yet they aren't considered good enough to even be considered for the Tourney because they didn't win their Conference?

I understand the two systems are independent of each other.  But, it seems to me that if the goal is to get to NCAA dance, d3hoops should rank them according to the method the NCAA uses for selection.  Why not?

A subjective poll and the criteria for the NCAA Tournament are apples and oranges. The AP poll means nothing for the D-I NCAA Tournament; why does the D3Hoops poll have to be different?

Also, if you have either a .506 (St. Norbert) or worse, a .477 (Denison) SOS, you don't deserve a Pool C bid, Top 25 team or not.

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Central Region / Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 27, 2017, 02:41:44 pm »
Congratulations to Illinois Wesleyan, grabbing a Pool C Bid!

Tough road ahead though taking on Trine on Friday with a potential shot at host Ohio Northern on Saturday.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 27, 2017, 02:13:29 pm »
Well, according to the final regional rankings, Illinois Wesleyan was at the table at the end.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2017/02/men-regional-rankings-final

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Central Region / Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 26, 2017, 09:50:01 am »
I bet at a minimum, the Titans come to the table. What I'm interested to see is the bottom of the Central rankings. Elmhurst went 1-1 this week (with a loss to IWU) while Augie went 0-2, and the Vikings were the last team in the Central. If the Blue Jays and Vikings trade places, the Titans can then add another win versus an RRO. Even with two losses this week, both were to RRO Wheaton, and if they drop, it won't be much. I bet the Titans are one of the last few in.

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