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Visitors to North Central's Benedetti-Wehrli Stadium this season, both new and repeat, will be greeted by a new sight immediately adjacent to the northeast corner of the stadium:

http://northcentralcollege.edu/content/new-residence-hall-construction

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My dad always jokes with me, saying he feels sorry for me when my 6 year old eventually graduates high school. "I can't imagine what college will cost (private or public) for her when she gets old enough." It keeps me up at night sometimes just thinking about it.  ;)

I just got engaged a week ago, am at least 2-3 years from having kids and it keeps me up at night!

Forget college. Wait until you see the costs of nursery and pre-school. That is more than enough to keep you in the poor house with no chance to save for college.

And congratulations. After marriage and pre-kids were my favorite years. I love my kids, but it'll be a long time once you have them before you can enjoy those carefree nights with just you and your wife...

Boy is that ever the truth! I'm fortunate to have a fair number of friends who are a few years out of college, and are either recently married or engaged. Whenever the subject of kids comes up I always advise them to have some fun/take some trips, within reasonable budgetary limitations of course, pre-kids because once you have kids a huge chunk of both your money and your time is going to be spent tending to their needs. And jknezek says, it will be a long time before you and your spousal unit will again be in position to be as carefree as you were before the little bundles of love began arriving.  :)

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*If UW-W has so much more money available than privates, why is UW-W bussing to Jackson, MS (an 11 hour 28 minute drive without traffic per Google Maps) while Wesley College is flying to Chicago (an 11 hour 32 minute driver without traffic per Google Maps)?

Ha, I think the answer, or at least a big portion of the answer, to that question night be found here:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/08/12/scott_walker_s_basketball_stadium_finance_bill_the_wisconsin_governor_just.html

The arena part at least actually has nothing to do with it since that funding (only about $80 million after interest) comes from bonding (future funds) not present funding that was cut. But the "cut school funding and gave it to a basketball team" storyline is better for more people's agendas then the actual facts.

As far as actual facts Master, its true that only $80 million from state funds will go to the new Bucks arena, but that doesn't change the fact that $250 million was cut from the U of Wisconsin system, which of course includes the state schools not located in Mad City. The Wisconsin governor is no friend higher public education.

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My son who was a solid player at UWW never received a dollar from Whitewater......five years out of state tuition (red shirt freshman year).....he chose UWW because of the facilities and coaches....went to the Stagg Bowl 2005 and 06....This year an excellent wide receiver from his high school and a good kid attempted to enroll but the financial package didn't come close so he is at a junior college.....for those young men who don't have the $$$ out of state tuition costs can be a hurdle that is impossible to make.....

Sak,

It seems funny that your son did not receive even $1. It sounds like he was a very good player. Do you own a bank?  :)
Given your son's apparent ability, you should have been more assertive with the financial aid office!

Conversely, I can readily understand picking a school for facilities and great coaching.

As for those young men "who don't have the $$$ for out of state tuition costs that can be a hurdle that is impossible to make…..,"
it appears you are, in this instance, talking about a kid who wound up at a JUCO as opposed to a four year school. If so, are you not comparing apples to oranges, especially in light of the fact that you would expect tuition at a JUCO to be less that that of a four year school?  :-\
One of the primary reasons kids end up at JUCOs is lower costs.

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WHITEWATER and a CCIW school were in intense competition for a local baseball player.  The CCIW school offered all kinds of money to him even though he was an average, at best, student.  However when they learned that they were $500 more expensive than our instate tuition and he was likely going to be a WARHAWK they offered him a $500 "music" scholarship.  That was enough to get him.  The kid had never had anything to do with music in high school and never took anything even remotely music related at the CCIW school.  He used all his eligibility but did not graduate.

My daughter attended a CCIW school to play volleyball and paid considerably less than she would have at WHITEWATER.  She ended up transferring after a year because she just didn't like being in the Chicago suburbs.

I'm really tired of the tuition argument.  My experience tells me when it comes to tuition that when the privates have the will they find the way.

Badger,

I'm sure all, or close to all, schools occasionally get very creative when it comes to finding dollars not labeled as "athletic," even though that is no doubt the proper classification of those dollars.

In the instance you describe above, I sense you received the information about the $500.00 "music" scholarship money on a secondhand basis in you weren't present when the offer was revealed. Therefore, how do you know this actually happened? Is there any possibility someone in the athletic department just told you a tall tale in jest?  ;)

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*If UW-W has so much more money available than privates, why is UW-W bussing to Jackson, MS (an 11 hour 28 minute drive without traffic per Google Maps) while Wesley College is flying to Chicago (an 11 hour 32 minute driver without traffic per Google Maps)?

Ha, I think the answer, or at least a big portion of the answer, to that question night be found here:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/08/12/scott_walker_s_basketball_stadium_finance_bill_the_wisconsin_governor_just.html


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*Those bemoaning UW-W's low tuition (compared to their favorite institution) fail to mention that, almost without exception, their schools are not even competing directly for the same  athletes as UW-W. If UW-W were located near Crestview Hills, KY, I could see a Thomas  More fan complaining about the tuition differential.  But to get to the playoffs, UW-W competes against schools with similar "advantages" they have. Not exactly the same, but certainly similar in terms of tuition. We don't have D-II's in Wisconsin, but we compete against those other public schools that some believe "Should be D-II". Incidentally, UW-W is the only WIAC school of which I am aware that does NOT have a reciprocity agreement with Illinois.   So there is a conference DISADVANTAGE right there. Frankly, I could care less if Thomas More decreased their tuition to ZERO. We don't recruit the same guys they do.

While its very true that the Warhawks don't compete with Thomas More for players, what you have failed to mention is that UWW not only competes for players with the other WIAC teams, but they also compete for players with both all the private schools within a reasonable distance of Milwaukee. plus all the privates in the Chicago metropolitan area. And, while UWW has little or no financial advantage over their fellow conference schools who have the same relative costs, they do enjoy a tremendous financial advantage over most if not all of the private schools within a reasonable distance of Whitewater.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: August 24, 2015, 01:31:42 pm »
Don't they sign contracts though? Maybe the "penalty" for dropping out of one tournament to join a better one is minimal and worth the fee?

I believe this is the case. However, the problem is that a team can always agree verbally over the phone to appear. Then, when they are sent the contract, they delay signing and returning it for an attended time, and then finally either call or send a letter stating something like "thank you for the opportunity, but our plans have changed, and after further consideration, we unfortunately won't be able to take part in your tournament after all."
Since there was never any signed contract there isn't even a "penalty."

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: August 24, 2015, 01:19:15 pm »
I've personally seen several instances over the years will a team will commit to a tournament, especially a season opening tournament and then pull out for a variety of reasons. It definitely happens.

Also, teams will call to inquire about a tourney and as soon as they are told who, besides the host school, the other team or teams are, their interest suddenly evaporates. It's a pain to even get the teams let alone hold on to them once you think you have them.  >:(

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: August 23, 2015, 05:30:42 pm »
NCC is always one of the last teams to post their schedule.
Last time I participated in a discussion on this subject, the Cardinals were still looking for a final non-con game. Among such games I can tell you they have away games set @ Aurora on 11/28, Platteville on 12/3, and Alma on 12/6, and host Stevens Point on 12/9, Albion on 12/15, and Benedictine on 12/22. The opening weekend Tip-Off Tournament on 11/20 & 21 is not yet set. The long trip this season will be to a tournament in Miami on 12/18 & 19, but I don't know what other teams will be there.
A bit of relief from last year's road warrior status earned as the result of trips to Califotnia, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.

* The Cards will apparently face Mt. Union and U of Chicago in the Tip-Off Tournament, and their last non-con game will be vs. Robert Morris on a yet to be determined date. That is all. 🏀

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: August 19, 2015, 03:33:19 pm »
Thanks, guys!

AndOne, I'll just get over this cold - if I wait 'til the 'green flu' goes away, I'll NEVER meet the girl! ;)

Watch out for that green flu stuff though, Ypsi. It will put you in the nursing home!
Several inhabitants of the B-N, IL area, now domiciled in such housing units, can attest to the long term effects of the aforementioned malady. 😷

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: August 19, 2015, 12:48:26 am »
Ypsi,

Despite your misguided sporting alliegence, hearty congrats on the grandpa x 2 status.
Just stay away until you're rid of the green flu. Your job now is to love and spoil. 😊

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North Region football / Re: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: August 17, 2015, 08:04:15 pm »
Current 2015 North Central Cardinals football roster:

http://www.northcentralcardinals.com/roster.aspx?roster=258&path=football

However, in light of the following, I'm questioning whether or not the above list won't be subject to some changes/additions in the short term.  :-\

http://www.northcentralcardinals.com/sports/2015/5/5/FB_05052015.aspx?path=football

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