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Why do you think Wheaton's roster is always filled with players from around the country?
Not sure what others think but my personal opinion is that, in addition to being academically strong to start with, its Wheaton's religious philosophy that brings in recruits. I'm not sure how many other schools there are of the same religious persuasion around the country, but I'm guessing not a great number. Accordingly, its always been my opinion that WC doesn't really have to do that much recruiting due to the fact I believe many kids actually recruit themselves to Wheaton rather than the usual action of the school going out and recruiting the student-athlete. Look at how many incoming kids have gone to Christian high schools. Its the same with all sports at WC, not just football. Wheaton rarely competes for the same kids with other conference schools except, in some cases, with North Park. Their primary competition for recruits is usually with other Christian colleges across the country rather than with other CCIW schools.

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Attended the annual North Central basketball Awards Banquet at one of Naperville's classiest establishments this past Saturday. It was indeed a fitting celebration of the most successful season that the Cardinals have ever had, and which resulted in them going to the Final Four, finishing 28-4, and being ranked 3rd in the nation in the final D3Hoops poll. They went a perfect 16-0 at home.

While the Cardinals fell 2 games short of their ultimate goal, I hope the guys realize and carry with them a tremendous sense of pride in what they did accomplish over the course of the season. In their national semifinal game they held the eventual national champion 30 points under their season average. Unfortunately, that same particular evening saw them leave a major portion of their collective shooting eye in the locker room. Nevertheless, the season was wildly successful, and every player on the team should rightfully feel very proud of a truly marvelous achievement.

Among the awards handed out were the scholarship award and top defender award, both won by Vince Kmiec, and the team MVP award which was won by Derek Raridon. The latter two awards were voted on by the players. Vince (3rd team), Derek (1st team), Aaron Tiknis (3rd team), and Landon Gamble (1st team), received their all-conference awards, and Landon and Derek received plaques from the NABC in recognition of their All-Region and All-American selections. 

Thanks, to all the Cardinals players and coaches, for a great ride.  ;D

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Just a suggestion Blue_Jays, but consider the possibility its best to leave others mothers out of discussions, least another poster might, in some way, offer an unflattering reference to your mom. An occurrence you likely wouldn't take kindly to.
If you want to slam another poster, I'd bet you're intelligent enough to do so without insulting his mom.

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Regarding Merner upgrade: Long overdue. The balcony seating is still a big drawback. My assessment of CCIW basketball venues (before Merner upgrade):
Top 3 (take your pick): IWU, Wheaton, Carthage (IWU could use some chairback seats)
4) Augustana (close 4th)
5) Millikin
6 & 7) North Park and Elmhurst
8) North Central

I haven't been in all of these gyms but I would definitely take North Central over North Park. There's something to be said for atmosphere.


First of all, with regard to the ranking of CCIW member school gyms, I think the Carthage gym is, by heads and tails, the Taj Mahal of CCIW facilities. I wouldn't doubt its one of the top 5 or so in the country. And, one of the gyms I've experienced is the very impressive Hope facility.

Wheaton and IWU are both very nice. However, I think the Shirk Center @ IWU is living, at least somewhat, on reputation, and has been slightly eclipsed by King Arena @ Wheaton. The atmosphere @ Wheaton just seems more alive. Perhaps its because half of the usual audience at games there is not composed of people even older than I am!  ;)
Also, some of the seats have backs on them. Accordingly, I'd give the 2nd place nod to North DuPage.

If you want to give Augie 4th place, for now, I won't argue. The recent renovations certainly helped. What is impressive to me about Augie is that once inside, the place just feels big---spacious and not crammed in.

Pat mentioned atmosphere. Based on that alone, North Central rates above Millikin with its giant curtain across one entire side of the gym. Elmhurst, a drab box with 1960s style bleachers certainly lacks any semblance of atmosphere, and the previously mentioned NPU Crackerbox has been said to compare to a high school facility.

JMHO. Other opinions will most certainly not concur.  :)

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NPU's building is just basically a high school gym.

That's an insult to high school gyms.

OK.. given that one liner, which is a classic,  I HAVE to get up to Chicago land next season to see North Park!!!! ;) ;) ;)

Just remember not to take many friends with you, Hope. They won't fit!  ;)

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NPU's building is just basically a high school gym.

That's an insult to high school gyms.

Now, now TQ.
Rivaling the best high school gyms, the "Crackerbox" does come complete with a stage at one end.   ;)

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Here goes everybody,my first post.Why does it take so long for Elmhurst to get recruiting information out to the fans.I,ve been reading this site for 10 years now.I find it very informative.I,ll try and add something to it from now on.What is the name of the group of guys, that travel to the best basketball games in the CCIW?

Welcome Wildcat,

Are you a fan of any particular team and/or conference or just D3 in general?

To answer your questions:

1. I'm not familiar with Elmhurst's record with regard to the speed or lack thereof with which they post the names of recruits. Keep in mind 2 variables which may effect how quickly an interested party might be able to view this information. First, some schools follow a policy of treating the names of their recruits as state secrets. EC may fall into this category. Secondly, its rare for a school itself to release recruits names as they commit. This is usually done by fans who are privy to insider information, by means of a recruit self reporting his choice through one of the social media outlets, or by a newspaper article someone picks up on. With specific regard to this year's crop of EC recruits, keep in mind that their long time head coach resigned after the recent season. If he knew beforehand that this was going to be his last year, he may not have hit the recruiting trail too strenuously. And, the new head coach has barely had time to get his feet wet, having been appointed to the post only a couple weeks ago.

2. The name of the group to which you refer is the "Big Five." Obviously, the group was originally comprised of 5 gentlemen who could initially be identified by the green blazers they wore to games. Over time, the group has expanded a bit but is still a relatively small organization, probably numbering 10 at most.  One of the newer members is the son of one of the original members. Some of the originals still wear their green blazers to games. The group usually confines itself to games in the Chicago suburbs of Wheaton, Naperville, and Elmhurst. Depending on the competition, I believe they also occasionally attend games at Benedictine and Aurora. These games may or may not involve CCIW teams. Lastly, if I remember correctly, the group "leader" is an attorney who maintains offices in Chicago and who specializes in workers' compensation cases.

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With Nick Anderson and David Robinson, the Cards should be very formidable in the upcoming years.

And their uncle's checks will go a long way in funding a refurbished, new look Hangar.   :)

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Another NCC recruit:

Nick Anderson--6'2" guard from Wilmington, IL HS.
Sorry, no stats available

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* David Robinson--6'6" Forward from Lockport Twsp.

Committed to North Central over going to the Naval Academy?

Obviously didn't want to follow in his uncle's footsteps.  ;)

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Carthage recruit...

* Myles Olsen, 6-0 PG (East Troy H.S., WI) - 6.3 ppg
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 Oops there Q, that was last year.  Myles was on the Carthage roster this year. ;D

That's good stuff.

Mark Miller ‏@WisBBYearbook 15 Apr 12
East Troy senior point guard Myles Olsen plans to play college basketball at Carthage College


Hey, I tried!

Life moves a little slower out there on the plains of Huskerland.   ;)

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North Central recruits

* Ryan Peter--6'4" Wing from Joliet Catholic. All-Area player who averaged 12.4 ppg, 6.8 rpg, & 2.0 apg.
Shot 42.7% from the field, including 38.2% from three.
* David Robinson--6'6" Forward from Lockport Twsp.
* Ricky Bullock--6'2" Guard from Homewood-Flossmoor.
* Blake Cowden--5'11" Guard from Tri-Valley HS in Downs, IL. IBCA 1A/2A  All-State 2nd team. Averaged 17.2 ppg, 4.4 apg, & 3.4 rpg.

Article on Ryan Peter:

http://joliet.faithsite.com/content.asp?CID=129040&SID=1105
Ryan played on a pretty poor team at JCA. He was by far his team's top player, and was always the guy the opposition focused on, frequently doubling him. Despite this, he was one of the best pure shooters I saw this season, including a game in which he hit 6 of 8 threes, being knocked down on 3 of his 6 successful attempts.

Article on Blake Cowden (Indicating he had narrowed his college choices to Wesleyan, Carthage, and Millikin)  ???

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/high-school/basketball/boys/when-it-comes-to-competition-tri-valley-s-cowden-never/article_8850b256-6052-11e2-a7ad-001a4bcf887a.html


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I recall seeing him visit at a Hope game his JR year, but seems to be he was nowhere near Hope's radar this year. I wonder if they (or he) squashed Holland as a destination early in the process.

I think that Wood was interested in staying close to home, which is why Hope and St. Ambrose got crossed off his list.

I'm sure that some NPU fans will have dreams of Wood stepping into the starting lineup from the get-go and immediately establishing a formidable duo in the paint alongside Mike Gabriel -- the thought's certainly occurred to me -- but, again, he's an incoming freshman from the smallest-school level, and he no doubt has a lot to learn. We need to give him time to develop before any expectations are placed upon his wide shoulders.

I have been told that there was at least one other CCIW school looking at Wood but they couldn't get him into school. Grades may have been an issue as well.

newCCIW,

I'm confused. Help please.

IF another school was interested, what reason would there be why he couldn't get in other than grades?
Thanks.

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North Park has landed 6'10, 275 center Austin Wood from Illinois Lutheran.

Wood averaged 15.0 ppg and 11.1 rpg as a senior at Illinois Lutheran, which plays at the 1A level in the IHSA.  He was named 2nd Team all-conference and made the 2nd Team of the NW Times all-area team.

https://sites.google.com/site/rvcconference/all-conference-teams/beecher

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/illinois/scouting-the-times---boys-basketball-all-area-team/article_ced66d4f-602f-5c9e-a881-0734b5d7ff31.html


6-10/275 sounds intriguing for a CCIW recruit.

At 6-10 its a wonder that some low level D1 didn't offer this kid. Especially considering he averaged 15 and 11. I'd guess the 2 major factors that prevented such from happening were his level of competition, and, at 275, possibly his mobility/ability to get up and down the floor. However, over the years I've seen several 6-7, 6-8, or 6-9 guys whose overall skill level was average at best, be offered athletic $.
Given, the vast majority of these players were from large suburban Chicago schools featuring tough competition on a fairly regular basis.

It will be interesting to see what he can do against top flight D3 college competition.

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A picture of North Central's Benedetti-Wehrli Stadium after the recent flooding in Naperville.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130501/news/705019679/photos/AR/

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