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I think HAL needs  tune-up. He ranks NPU 4th and IWU 20th and then says IWU will beat NPU.  ???

Everything you read and hear about Nadelhoffer seems to suggest he is both a good guy and a good coach. However, I think two of the biggest challenges he has had problems overcoming are; 1) Millikin's reputation as a losing proposition - they haven't had a winning record since 2008-09, and 2) the fact Decatur is a pit.

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 04, 2016, 11:11:04 pm »
Yup, Ypsi, a lost opportunity in just those 2-3 minutes of poor play and poor possessions.  Perhaps better next time.  NPU will be a great challenge, even at The Shirk.  They are playing very well, lighting it up from treyland.

Wishing you, your family, and all the CCIW chatsters a most happy holidays, upcoming.  I'm to Far Side tomorrow . . . my season of morning, video-streaming basketball begins after Dec. 6th.

I'll leave Trump and his minions to you . . .I only have the Chinese Communist Party to worry about. :( 


Hmmm ... that's a tough call! ;D

(End of political comment for the year!)

So, in just 28 days, you can begin anew!  ;D

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 04, 2016, 10:55:59 pm »
Four Wheaton players foul out....what's up with that?  And they still won !

The refs are obviously prejudiced against Wheaton?  :)

Actually, that 4 Wheaties fouled out and they still won is more of a statement about Elmhurst than it is about either Wheaton or the officiating. Think about it.  :-\

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 04, 2016, 08:05:29 pm »
Ypsi & iwu70--

I have to go back to my initial notation of NCC's interior domination. From the 4:24 point that Ypsi referenced, the Cardinals made 4 more field goals. ALL four were in the paint--3 layups and a short jumper from the middle of the lane.
And great defense down the stretch limited the Green team's chances to respond.


Can you take Trump 🃏 with you? 😀

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 04, 2016, 04:20:48 pm »
After laying a turd Tuesday night against Platteville, the NCC Cardinals produced a much brighter product last night in downing a previously undefeated IWU team by an 84-75 score. Victory was achieved primarily through NCC's (1) defense, and (2) interior domination.

Defensively, Cardinal defenders held Green Team starters Andy Stempel (10 pts), Jaylen Beasley (3 pts), Colin Bonnett (10 pts) and Brady Rose (13 pts) and subs Austin Amann (2), Tyler Burdine (2), and the very inappropriate Alec Bausch (8), all below their scoring averages. Only Trevor Seibring (16), IWU's usually excellent center man, and sub Nick Coleman (11) exceeded their averages. Coleman, 4 of 6, including 3 of 5 from distance with 2 assists and a steal, favorably impressed NCC players, staff, and fans.
Cardinals Jaquan "JQ" Phipps, a stalwart defender, and Aiden Chang did an especially nice job in slowing IWU's Brady Rose, who fouled out, and Andy Stempel to help control the pace of the game.
Rose looked a bit both frustrated and tired in the 2nd half before his disqualification.
The Cardinals out rebounded Wesleyan 38-30, and controlled the interior, outscoring the visitors 42-26 in the paint and banking 15 second chance points compared with the visitors 9.

NCC was led in scoring by Alex Sorenson with 25.
Connor Raridon had 19 points, 8 rebounds, and 6 assists.
Erwin Henry had an all around excellent game, registering a double-double with 17 points, 13 rebounds, and 5 assists.
Jagger Anderson gave the Cards what they needed off the bench with 12 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 steals.

As another poster previously stated, the game was rather chippy, and the officiating, especially the short guy, was below the level I frequently see at high school games.

The lowlight of the game occurred with the outcome already assured, and with only 4 seconds remaining when the frustrated Alec Bausch, who had been acting strangely since pre-game warmups, threw the Cardinals Erwin Henry to the floor. Bausch, who received a T for his actions, then allegedly referred to Mr. Henry in feline terms. Meow! 😼 😊

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 04, 2016, 02:46:41 am »
T. Seibring got the foul on NC's big man, and the refs believed it.  LOL.  Too bad.

He was also the leading scorer in the first half. Just say'in.


Seibring was indeed the game's leading scorer in the first half with 10 compared to Sorenson's 9.

But alas, in the modern era, we play TWO halves and Seibring, noticeably both heavier and slower this season than last, faded in the second half, being outscored by Sorensen 16 to 6, to finish with 25 compared to Seibring's 16. Just say'in!  :)

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 02, 2016, 05:53:49 pm »
1. I think you know that I know MU isn't going anywhere.  ???  :)
2. My post was only hopeful, not serious. I'm certainly a little crazy, but thankfully, and I know some would argue, still a little short of insane.
3. I'm merely lamenting having to begin conference games in early Dec.
4. You really missed something in the last paragraph. Millikin is not the CCIW school (and I wasn't serious about that one either) that is "just across the river" from Iowa and the IIAC  :o. Off to remedial geography class you go.  ;)

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 02, 2016, 02:50:18 pm »

Sure is strange to see key conference games in December.


His league (the SLIAC) doesn't have the same advantage as the CCIW in terms of every team having a video or audio feed, much less both, so he hops in his car without thinking twice about it and drives halfway across Illinois or Missouri from his home in St. Louis to watch SLIAC games (he doesn't have a rooting preference, so he bases his attendance decisions upon which game looks like the best matchup). Heck, he even drives to Kentucky to watch SLIAC games. I have no idea why his long-suffering wife puts up with that, but, considering that he always gives a full write-up of the games he sees and that his road trips make him the league's biggest men's basketball authority by a huge margin, the entire SLIAC should be glad that she does. ;)

He could stop watching SLIAC games effective immediately and still remain the leagues biggest basketball authority by a huge margin, at least through the end of the season...

Ah, the SLIAC...]

Speaking of the SLIAC...

Perhaps we could interest them in accepting the southernmost member of the current CCIW. Lots of positives for all concerned. Said member would be able to more easily compete in the SLIAC, many CCIW teams would lose their longest conference road trip, and the CCIW could go back to waiting until after the 1st of the year to begin playing their conference games. Besides that, it would give HOPEFAN more games to see!

I know, blasphemy to CCIW traditionalists. But, hey, it's just an idea. And, if this board is for the expression of ideas, and the open discussion of them, then consider this idea an opportunity for discussion.  :)

And, if the SLIAC isn't interested, since the IIAC has acquired a team from it's western neighbor, and is now really the NIIAC, perhaps they would be interested in acquiring a team from just across the river from their eastern boarder, thus becoming the NIIIAC!  ;)

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 01, 2016, 11:06:00 pm »
I could say I meant CCIW minutes, but I'd be lying.
Of course, prior to my post, I checked the Augie stats. My eyes must be going too because in quickly looking at the list of players, I just simply missed his name. 😵 No excuses.

If he has been in the rotation regularly, there is no reason to think he won't play. But given it is the first conference game and he is a freshman, I would be surprised if his minutes increase dramatically.

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 01, 2016, 09:46:15 pm »
ZERO minutes so far. A FRESHMAN. FIRST CONFERENCE game of the season.
The answer is no.  :)

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 01, 2016, 06:59:42 pm »
My take is that the reason why North Centralonly scored 40 points is that it was about 80% due to UWP playing fantastic defense and 20% due to NCC screwing up. I might even go 85/15.

I watched the whole game.  Agree 100% with this.

Overall game analysis -- UWP played well fabulously, NCC played poorly.

As North Central's biggest and most supportive fan on this board, and arguably anywhere else, over the last 10+ years, let me just opine that UWP played fabulously, and saying the Cardinals played "poorly" is being exceedingly generous. The fact is that they played like crap, and you can't polish a turd no matter how hard you try!

The thing is, many very good teams are going to have an occasional very bad game. Sometimes it's due to an outstanding effort by the opponent, sometimes it's due to your own failures, and most often it's some combination of the two.

NCC is a much better team than they showed Tues night. They have a couple exceptional players, and other very, very good ones. They need to dig deep, both physically and mentally, at his time to enable their talents to carry then to the high level at which they are capable of playing, and they need to play together as opposed to each player trying to shoulder the load alone. I sense that they have the ability to do so.

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 01, 2016, 06:26:58 pm »
I sense that everyone has their own idea of what constitutes a "trap game." I have not seen a hard and fast definition of the term--one that can be applied in all cases. I don't personally care much for trying to explain a poorly played game by calling it a trap game. However, some people seem to like the term, which is fine. However, If you are going to use it, remember that what might be a trap game you one analyst, might not be to another. JMHO.

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: November 30, 2016, 06:20:16 pm »
North Central is on a different academic calendar than everyone else, right? Is it finals week there?

NCC is on a trimester system with each term being 10 weeks long followed by finals on Mon, Tues, & Wed of the 11th week. 1st term always ends with finals being the 3 days before Thanksgiving. Christmas, or Holiday if you prefer, vacation starts Thanksgiving Day, and runs until the first Mon in Jan (Tues this school year as the Sun New Year's Day Holiday will be taken on Mon., 1/2). Accordingly, most NCC students have an almost 6 week vacation every year.

Beginning the Mon after Thanksgiving (11/28-12/16 this yr), students can take a 3 week D-Term class. A limited number of traditional classes are held on campus, but most D-Term classes are things like study abroad, faculty led classes in places like Greece, France, or Australia, independent research funded by Richter Fellowships, or Service Trip options like working in community development in West Virginia with the Appalachian Service Project, Mission Of Hope trips to Haiti, or hurricane relief in Louisiana. On campus students get to stay in the dorms and eat in the cafeteria for no additional cost.

Due to practice, in season athletes do not take D-Term classes.
With specific reference to basketball, last week was basically a lost week as far as a regular schedule and practices were concerned. Players had finals Mon-Wed so on those days practices were abbreviated and not fully attended depending on exam schedules. Wed night NCC played Alma, Thursday was T'Giving, and Fri night they played Aurora.
Not an excuse, but the kids had a lot more on their minds than basketball last week which was both very mentally and physically taxing.

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: November 30, 2016, 05:32:34 pm »
It is too early to really question NCC with only four games played.  What does stand out - 3.7 point differential to opponents and maybe a lack of bench depth/scoring.  Cardinals might be more of a work in progress than thought before games were played.

There might be something to that, as well. Jaquan Phipps is in his second year, but was not a major scoring threat last year; I think he's more there for defense. And moving Aiden Chang into the starting lineup to replace Jayme Moten removes a lot of that bench scoring as well. That bench scoring load will probably have to be picked up by Fehrle, who hasn't looked bad through four games, but he's only got four games under his belt. And after Sorenson/Raridon, there's next to nothing offensively in the post. I think the depth is there at least in terms of minutes, but maybe not in terms of scoring. Other than last night though, Henry, Chang, and Anderson (and even Fehrle) have a good job of supplementing the scoring of Sorenson and Raridon.

Obviously no reason to panic yet. If things go south on Saturday though...

1. JQ Phipps forte is definitely defense. He does not get minutes because of his offense, and isn't really looked at to score much. Any points he registers are a bonus. Quickness, athleticism, strength, and on-the-ball defense are what he is usually inserted to provide.
2. Last year the Cards bench was a major strength. In 6th and 7th men Kevin Honn and Aiden Chang they had TWO guys who could have started for 95% of the teams in the country. Consider that Honn finished 20th in CCIW scoring and 13th in rebounding despite playing only about 20 minutes a game. Chang was a 41% 3 point shooter who could provide instant offense. Honn was probably NCC's best player over the last month, and performed at an all-conference level.
This year so far, NCC has 1/2 of a bench player. Sam Fehrle has been very good in 2 games, and just kind of out there in 2 others, including last night (like everyone else). However, this inconsistency is to be expected. Sam is only a freshman, just 4 games into his college career. Like any freshman, he is still learning, and needs to get stronger. He is going to be a very good player for NCC, likely All-Conference. But it will take a while, as should be expected.
3. NCC's bigs need to be more aggressive inside earlier in a possession. If, for whatever reason this is a problem, they need to more often not settle for an outside shot (especially a late and off balance one), but rather put the ball on the floor, drive, and go to the basket to convert or draw a foul. Even if they miss the FT, the defender has picked up another foul which might help disqualify him.
4. Perimeter players need to be aware of spacing and pace, keep moving to get themselves open, and, especially, to take the open shot when they've got one instead of a crappy shot late(r) in the possession.
5. College players should be able to make layups, and hit a decent percentage of FTs.
6. If you're into the futures market, bet on seeing a new face beginning to see more time in the NCC lineup.

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