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General football / Re: some DIII summer thinking
« on: July 19, 2019, 01:22:43 pm »
Re: Friday Night Lights by Bissinger, I thought that the writer took a very cheap shot at people who let him get to know them and then he exposed some very ugly warts for fun and profit.

Because they were, for the most part, "white oil field trash", he could say and write things about them that he would not about other demographic sectors in the country.  I do not think that the people who permitted him to know them could recognize the guile involved of a big city east coast (Philadelphia) writer wanting to make it big with a "tell-all" book.

If there is one civilizing influence in that rugged part of the country, it is football. Odessa Permian went a long time before they had a single Pro Football player alum. In the 1960's and 1970's Permian won football games with undersized players who "out-executed" their more talented opponents. By the 1980's the success may have morphed into another phenomenon, and some of the core of the program may have lost some of its uniqueness. On the other hand, in Texas small town football and, for that matter the extracurricular offerings through the University Interscholastic League, from football to marching band to One Act Play, are the vehicles by which communities inculcate the most cherished values in Texas communities.

If you believe in Karma, perhaps H.G. Bissinger truly was only a one hit wonder.

General football / Re: some DIII summer thinking
« on: July 19, 2019, 12:46:23 pm »
Mike Flynt who played his last season at age 59 at Sul Ross.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Conference changes
« on: July 13, 2019, 09:08:07 pm »
The ACAA just keeps on trying to make fetch happen. It's not gonna happen, guys.
The ACAA still allows a school to have Player of the Week, All-Conference and All-Academic awards.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Conference changes
« on: July 11, 2019, 10:10:50 am »
Dean College is the third school in the provisional pipeline. I don't know if they got a waiver, but they did get a new conference.

This reverses GNAC's loss of Suffolk but it also drops the NECC below seven teams for men's basketball. Pending future changes (which are almost a given at this point), the Conference will have seven members but only six men's teams starting in 2020-21 because Bay Path doesn't have men's sports.

impacts on the NECC...

field hockey/men's lacrosse - already combined with the NAC for 1 auto bid**; men's golf - already Pool B anyway; M/W XC-T&F - non-auto bid sports

WBB, WSOC, women's VB, softball - down to 7 teams but hang on to Pool A by their fingernails for now

MSOC, MBB, baseball - grace period begins fall 2020; will be Pool B starting in 2022-23 if no other additions

men's volleyball - grace period starts this fall anyway, Pool B in 2022 season. Only 3 core NECC remaining members will sponsor MVB (Elms, ENC, Lesley), without that number getting up to at least 4 they can never get the auto bid back once they lose it.

women's lacrosse - grace period was already starting 2019-20 due to only 6 remaining teams, that will become 5. B in 2022.

**when Dean leaves, it looks like the combined NECC/NAC FH will only have 6 teams, thus starting the clock to be Pool B in fall 2022. I imagine the 3 remaining NECC men's lacrosse teams (NEC, Becker, Mitchell) will just be absorbed into the 7-team NAC, although Mitchell is a long drive.
Considering mission, vision and geography, where else could Mitchell go if there were a NECC/NAC consolidation (or the NECC being subsumed into another conference) for all sports?

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« on: June 28, 2019, 02:50:23 pm »

Good job as usual for this board and the conference vs out of conference board. Plus K.

thanks magic... lost interest during NCAA tourney and our move south, thought I would finish up..... FINALLY!!!!
Fortunately, the Karma followed you in your move south.


South Region football / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
« on: June 26, 2019, 11:32:04 pm »

we like to say we're "The" Nazarene College, which has a double bonus of upsetting Ohio State fans.

I suspect that OSU students and alumni not only say "The Ohio State University" as an act of braggadocio, but also to reassure themselves that they remember the name of their school. That's because they look down at the field before home football games, see Script Ohio, and panic, thinking that the lack of "State" means that perhaps they're actually atttending or attended Ohio University in Athens, OH.
The way that I remember it is that Athens has the University; Columbus has the football team.

Hmmm... they could change the font size on the "Ohio" and spell out "State".

Then, would you use French Horn to dot the "i"?

But, then, none could outdo their 1968 National Champs.
1968 was an entirely different brand of ball.

You had large numbers of players going to the NFL and NBA from NAIA schools.

The "majors" were the PAC-8, the Big 8, the Big 10, the 8 in the SWC which would admit U of Houston in the fall of 1968, the ACC with 8 schools, the SEC with only 10 or 11 schools and the 5 big schools in the East competing for the Lambert and a half dozen independents, Notre Dame, Tulane, Ga Tech, Army, Navy. How many are in D-1 FBS now?

You did not have restrictions on the number of scholarships you could give.

Title IX? What is Title IX?

West Region / Re: BB: NWC: Northwest Conference
« on: June 17, 2019, 01:28:36 pm »
Linfield is 2-16 in conference. What happened in mcminville?

Could be a new coach still getting his legs. The NWC has definitely raised the bar where the conference race is not a 2-3 team race but one where a couple good teams will be left outside the conference tournament.
It is time to refresh a post.

Whitman (23-17 in regular season) took the national champion to game 5 and lost on an unearned walk-off in the bottom of the 9th.

The West Region is the strongest in the country and deserved more than 1 Pool C bid this year.

West Region / Re: BB: SCAC: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
« on: June 13, 2019, 11:24:04 am »
Here is Bob's voice, just after the TD, saying "No way! No way!" in the PAWS production of the Miracle in Mississippi.

RIP Bob!  You had a great family.

Ralph, I originally thought it was Bob (sounds like him) but according to the official TU hagiography ;) of the event it was Shawn Thompson.  But Bob was there, was one of those responsible for getting the video to ESPN, and the rest is history.
Thanks! Yes it sounded just like him.

West Region / Re: BB: SCAC: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
« on: June 13, 2019, 02:14:09 am »
Here is Bob's voice, just after the TD, saying "No way! No way!" in the PAWS production of the Miracle in Mississippi.

RIP Bob!  You had a great family.

West Region / Re: BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference
« on: June 10, 2019, 08:14:57 pm »

This seems like an absolutely fantastic hire for UMHB but I am curious what would make Stawski leave Concordia?  Maybe it's the warmer weather, although many of those early Spring games in TX are pretty rough.  I am very interested to see how this pans out.
A stronger commitment to his sport from an athletic program that has set sights on national championships in all sports that it sponsors.

UMHB just got serious about baseball.

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