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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: May 19, 2020, 09:27:07 am »
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If you substitute NCAA football for Disney World, what percentage of players/parents would sign?  I bet the majority

Just curious, why do you assume the majority would come back?

I think a sizeable chunk would not come back or (in the case of incoming freshman) won't come at all. Not sure if that's 10 percent, 30, 50 or something else, but the number bandied about in terms of registrations dropping is 10 - 30 percent. Getting 70-90 percent back would still be a majority but I assume a lot of programs cannot stand to lose that chunk of their roster. The smaller programs need the bodies and the larger programs need the money those bodies generate.

I have a few reasons for feeling this way:
1.  The single segment of society least affected by COVID 19 is the under the 24 yo age group.  In this age group, the death rate is under 0.2% (that is death/confirmed case) and the true rate is probably dramatically lower, since it is well established that there are many asymptomatic carriers of the disease, and we only test symptomatic individuals.
2.  I worry about the mental health of this age group, as much as the physical health.  How long can we continue to keep college age students home with mom and dad?  Not healthy for anyone
3.  If we take this group of healthy students, and separate them from the more at risk members of society, then even if they become asymptomatic carriers, there is a lower chance of spread to at risk groups. 
4.  Agree that playing sports (except perhaps golf) eliminates social distancing and certainly no chance of wearing a mask.  But, who cares?  These are healthy kids, tested, closely monitored and separated from the rest of at risk society.
5.  We need to draw a line in the sand at some point.  If you want to close colleges until a vaccine is developed, tested, manufactured, distributed and then given.....18 months may be a pipe dream
6.  Finally, going to college and playing sports is voluntary.  If you don't want to go, don't.  If you don't want to play, don't.
Oline, these are logical and thoughtful points, +k. Keeping my fingers crossed for a negligible uptick in the virus as NYS opens up each stage, and a balanced approach by NYS  governance to decision making as we hopefully resume life responsibly until there is a vaccine .  I know Hobart and William Smith care deeply for the health and safety of our students, faculty and staff but we also must balance the risks with the current and future rewards that the community offers to the students when functioning as intended. I've got my binoculars and a spot on the soccer practice field overlooking the Boz if necessary, with my EarPods tuned to Ted Baker calling the game with a slight "homer" lean to the broadcast.   

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: May 13, 2020, 10:11:34 am »
Finger Lakes Region is one of three NYS regions to get the green light for Phase One effective May 15. Good news for HWS and Rochester. Not sure what this means for football after Fauci comment that football is a difficult sport for the virus.  Goodell and NFL are sending big bucks on research to keep NFL players safe and keep prospects of season positive. Lots to happen in the next few months that will hopefully get colleges open(Phase 4 in NY) and athletes back to competition safely. Hobart Football is lucky to have Rochester based medical resources close by with some Hobart grads in key medical positions to guide the return. Stay safe and hopefully we will see some football this Fall, as these student athletes expect to participate. Cuomo ....I hope you love football ;D

I understand your optimism Bartman but I really don't see a path to Division III football this fall. Too many added costs and headaches for the schools to worry about athletics. As a football fan, already well into the fourth quarter of life, it really hurts. I do think we'll have the NFL and maybe some NCAA FCS...yeah,maybe... One can only hope.  :'(   
Without athletics for these schools, the financial hit will be dramatic since many of the kids will delay attendance if online is the choice or losing a year of sports in the Fall. At HWS, 35% of our students are athletes and the football roster is about 100 . HWS will survive this hit, but expect quite a few colleges to close in this economic stress due to reliance on tuition. This will not immediately impact the LL Football schools with 200MM+ Endowments , but I can count many schools in New York that were hurting with the change in demographics and this crisis is pretty much the nail in the coffin. UFan Bill, we will continue our fight back to normalcy and hope for the best.

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: May 12, 2020, 07:32:50 am »
Finger Lakes Region is one of three NYS regions to get the green light for Phase One effective May 15. Good news for HWS and Rochester. Not sure what this means for football after Fauci comment that football is a difficult sport for the virus.  Goodell and NFL are sending big bucks on research to keep NFL players safe and keep prospects of season positive. Lots to happen in the next few months that will hopefully get colleges open(Phase 4 in NY) and athletes back to competition safely. Hobart Football is lucky to have Rochester based medical resources close by with some Hobart grads in key medical positions to guide the return. Stay safe and hopefully we will see some football this Fall, as these student athletes expect to participate. Cuomo ....I hope you love football ;D

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Bartch to Jacksonville, picked at 116, one pick before the Vikings.

Woohoo!  I'm relieved.  I was afraid that he would end up at a team I hate.  The Jags are new enough that I haven't had the chance to build a solid case of resentment.  I don't recall a heartache loss for the Vikes against them.
Congrats to Bartch on being drafted by the Jags. Bartch joins Ali Marpet in the NFL as 2 great D3 lineman on opposite coasts of Florida. Good luck .

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 22, 2020, 12:28:13 pm »
Wanted to get some thoughts on U of R as a program. I know it has a very good academic reputation. Team has seen to really hit the skids last 4 years. I know the new Coach did a great job at MIT and is only there 2 years, so it may take some time. I also know the conference is no cakewalk and is not very kind to a rebuild. Good friend of mine has a son considering the school and I wanted to get some opinions and insight. Pretty good mid size academic school with decent facilities that plays in a tough conference. They should be better, right? I recall reading about a bizarre incident a few years ago that may have caused some bad press? Please, weigh in here. Trying to gather some facts for a young man making a big decision. Thanks in advance.
Martinovich(Hobart 1994) specializes in coaching at high academic achievement programs(turned MIT around after 3 seasons) and Rochester is the cream of the crop in the Liberty League as the #33 ranked National University, a $2+ Billion Endowment and about 6000 undergraduates. Few students go to U of R  for sports(although basketball has always been good) , although this school has the resources to go Division I if  they wanted to. If the student is looking for a great research University environment with an intimate sports program supported by some loyal alums and parents with a coach that should turn it around eventually , it is a great school. Just understand that probably no other undergraduates will either know or care that you are on the football team. 

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 22, 2020, 12:06:13 pm »
Jonny U...lol and +k, awesome perspective  on the TOP....

In the meanwhile, I think based on some discussions I've had we will have a season, it will most likely start a couple of weeks later to allow for adjustments to on campus openings....a real setback for season total TOP statistics with fewer games......but great news for football in general....even with social distancing for fans or limiting games to parents and family only....still lots of details to work out, but where there is a will there is a way...unfortunately if we start 2 weeks later, they will probably cancel the Hobart-Alfred game and I will have to postpone a visit to Mayberry...unless it ends up being a scrimmage , then I'll still be there ;D

A two week later start is probably a good bet.  If we eliminate the bye week, and extend the season by a single week, then a 9-10 game season is still an option.  Testing players preseason, daily checks of every student's temperature, stringent hand washing, staggered weight room training (maybe 10 players at a time), maybe even separate practice between offense and defense to limit exposures...
I don't see how equipment changes (eye shields) could help much, since the virus is spread through respiratory droplets.  Most important precaution of all: IF YOU FEEL SICK REPORT IT, AND STAY HOME.
+k and thanks Oline for your input...fingers crossed for everyone staying healthy and some football as part of moving on with life

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 20, 2020, 12:03:55 pm »
Jonny U...lol and +k, awesome perspective  on the TOP....

In the meanwhile, I think based on some discussions I've had we will have a season, it will most likely start a couple of weeks later to allow for adjustments to on campus openings....a real setback for season total TOP statistics with fewer games......but great news for football in general....even with social distancing for fans or limiting games to parents and family only....still lots of details to work out, but where there is a will there is a way...unfortunately if we start 2 weeks later, they will probably cancel the Hobart-Alfred game and I will have to postpone a visit to Mayberry...unless it ends up being a scrimmage , then I'll still be there ;D

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 19, 2020, 09:21:36 pm »
I'm not a fan of Sidearm. Their live stats are a PITA to view and get data from, but they're an Upstate based co so not surprised they got Union to sign up.

Hobart released it's schedule today. Basically same as last year / flipped of course, but with two new adds:

Wk 1 FNL game @ Alfred
Wk 2 vs. Morrisville
Wk 3 @ Rowan
Wk 4 vs. Keystone (Homecoming game)
Wk 5 vs. Union
Wk 6 @ RPI
Wk 7 vs. IC
Wk 8 BYE
Wk 9 @ SLU (this could be a sneaky great game)
Wk 10 @ Buff St
Wk 11 vs. UofR
I really hope we can fiqure out a way to balance recovering from the pandemic and the strong mitigation we have endured with opening up the colleges and universities and getting back to playing sports. Attending college is only four wonderful years in your life and these poor student athletes have really been short changed and the next academic year will really be a challenge. I hope the administrators and trustees have the wisdom to establish the right balance of safety and activities  and undergrads have the discipline and maturity to keep the disease under wraps and make the best of their remaining years. We know the flu has been a serious problem at all colleges in recent years, so while this disease may not target this age group, I don't think you want to give it a chance. Colleges will really have to adopt new protocols for residences , classrooms , libraries and lockerrooms/practice for athletes. It will be a pain in the ass, but it will be necessary to make students and their parents comfortable this Fall. Football will be a particular challenge due to the intimacy of the competition(A new bubble helmet...a face shield like the hockey players have??). I would be interested to hear from some of the health care D3 fans and high school coaches that frequent the board what they think is possible. Is intense testing prior to games an answer and which test will work best, and is this really possible? I realize that it will also be a function of discovering more and better treatments when the disease rears its head(and it will, if only on an isolated basis) since having a vaccine is not imminent, and we can't wait for a vaccine to live our lives over the next 12-18 months(IMO). If a team has one case does that mean they cancel the next 2 weeks of practice and games?....I dunno , but we have to figure this out in the next 2-3 months so I can see Pep and his team under the lights in Mayberry for the first game of the year(with my special Bartman mask). I'd love to be totally pumped , but I am guarded due to the unknowns at present and don't want to get my hopes all the way up quite yet....but I am excited to think I have a chance to have my hopes elevated. I just want to hear the boys sing.... Raise the Orange and Purple High following the next win, hopefully against an old time rival under the lights in Mayberry on 9/4  ;D !

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 03, 2020, 09:24:02 pm »
Someone said we need to get rid of the Corona to play in the Fall, so I've been drinking as much as possible but, damn they keep restocking it. The sacrifices we make for football ;D

Hey Bartman, hoping you'll have consumed all that Corona by pre-season...hoping to see you still standin' on Sept. 5 in Mayberry!

+K

Pep,
    I would love to be in Mayberry to start the season, but Bartman is concerned that social distancing and the six foot splits on the line and virtual tackling might take something away from the game, although I noticed that Allegany County only has 2 cases of Corona....you must have been drinking and partying so much in your county to only have 2 cases left.....so with such progress in fighting the virus in Mayberry, I think it is looking good for a real Saxon-Statesmen game if we stay focused....Only about 5 months to go, we can do this!....Keep drinking  to eliminate  Corona and play real football this Fall  ;D

At last count, there are 9 cases of Corona in Allegany County, someone must have smuggled a few more cases over the Steuben County line...noticed that the Hobart-Alfred clash will be a Friday Night (under the) Lights event in Yunevich Stadium. Kickoff at 7 p.m....at the start of the Sabbath.

Told Pep's Pops of the night game, suggesting "like the good old days" but the 92-year-old youngster, a Saxon follower since September 1937, who was given six months to live by a VA Hospital ER doctor in March 2019, said he wasn't thrilled with a night game...means he'll need to stay up past his bedtime.

On Saxon Warriors!
God Bless Pep's Pops.....a secret weapon for the Saxon Warriors.....

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: March 27, 2020, 08:41:26 am »
Someone said we need to get rid of the Corona to play in the Fall, so I've been drinking as much as possible but, damn they keep restocking it. The sacrifices we make for football ;D

Hey Bartman, hoping you'll have consumed all that Corona by pre-season...hoping to see you still standin' on Sept. 5 in Mayberry!

+K
Pep,
    I would love to be in Mayberry to start the season, but Bartman is concerned that social distancing and the six foot splits on the line and virtual tackling might take something away from the game, although I noticed that Allegany County only has 2 cases of Corona....you must have been drinking and partying so much in your county to only have 2 cases left.....so with such progress in fighting the virus in Mayberry, I think it is looking good for a real Saxon-Statesmen game if we stay focused....Only about 5 months to go, we can do this!....Keep drinking  to eliminate  Corona and play real football this Fall  ;D


 

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: March 24, 2020, 08:53:52 am »
A story from the Albany "Times Union" by Mark Singelais quotes Union coach Jeff Behrman and RPI's Ralph Isernia...https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/College-teams-adjust-to-no-spring-football-15140620.php

I'll have one of those beers, Bartman.  ;D
Ufan, +k for football update in the Cap region. As long as you keep firing the canon, no beers for you, too dangerous ;)

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: March 21, 2020, 10:35:53 am »
+k to Mr. Yipsi and Oline for keeping the Board active.....a virtual beer for you ;D

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: March 19, 2020, 05:01:38 pm »
Someone said we need to get rid of the Corona to play in the Fall, so I've been drinking as much as possible but, damn they keep restocking it. The sacrifices we make for football ;D

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East Region / Re: Liberty League
« on: March 19, 2020, 04:57:02 pm »
Coach Thompson goes from East Rookie of the year in 2010 as Hobart's starting point guard to Coach of the year in 2020...an amazing Statesman....if you are a HS player just short of the D1 world, come play for Coach Thompson and become one of the Statesmen  ;D

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East Region / Re: Liberty League
« on: March 16, 2020, 06:15:51 pm »
Hobart was ranked #20 in the final D3.com poll after defeating excellent teams from St.Joseph(CT) and Springfield. Congratulations to Coach Stefan Thompson and a great Statesmen team. 

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