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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: September 17, 2018, 10:25:13 am »
My personal LL rankings:

1. Union- Yeah, Springfield is only as good as their QB on offense, but Union lit them up for 7.8 YPP.

2. RPI- I don't know what's going on with RPI, but they're dealing with the same offensive issues IC seems to be. They had three points on offense combined in the second half of the WPI game and the first three quarters of the Utica game.

3. Ithaca- The Bombers still look shaky on offense, and Will Gladney being out can't be an excuse for everything, and the special teams still need work. But the defense just continues to shut teams down and force turnovers. Ultimately, the Brockport loss was impressive, in the sense that losses can be, IMO. But the Bombers were a 4th-and-18 conversion away from being shut out, so I just can't elevate them.

4. Hobart- The disconcerting thing for me isn't just Hobart's defense. It's that Hobart's offense got shut down by Brockport. Shenandoah can't play defense, and Hobart started nearly every scoring drive against Morrisville in plus territory. But the Brockport game has me wondering if they're going to move the ball against good defenses in the LL.

5. St Lawrence- Brockport is gonna Brockport, and maybe Utica's stronger than we think (see the RPI comment) but they've got to prove it more than the teams ahead of them.

6. Rochester- Squeaking past Alfred State? Ugh

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:50:39 am »
Like every ranking ever made, the biggest influencer for where you are is where you were at the start.

Why is Ithaca ranked and Union not? Because Ithaca began the year in the also receiving votes category, and Union did not.

It's also really important to remember, just because Springfield was ranked ahead of Alfred overall, when the point totals are as close as they are (56 to 29), there's a decent chance an individual voter or two put Alfred ahead of Springfield in the polls, and as such, given ICs win more weight.

Finally, I wonder if, at this early stage, winning big is a double edged sword. If you have a dim view of the NE conferences compared to the NY conferences, you might look at Springfield and think "Here's a team that has pulled a Norwich, and improved dramatically the second they went to a NE conference." As such, Union beating the ever loving daylights out of them actually just reinforces that suspicion as right. "See, Springfield can't hang with the NY teams. They're overrated and a product of their conference."

Ultimately, there is very little separating the two schools

East Region football / Re: FB: Empire 8
« on: September 14, 2018, 01:43:39 pm »

1PM   Ithaca 1-1 @ Alfred 1-0.      AU is most likely equally strong in defense

Given the quality of competition faced this year, I think the Bombers deserve the benefit of the doubt

East Region football / Re: FB: Empire 8
« on: September 10, 2018, 11:02:13 am »
So, can we talk about that Cortland game for a second?

I don't think I've ever seen a game shift like that. Down 19-14 late in the third, Cortland runs a kickoff back for a score, then forces turnovers on four straight drives, the last being a Pick 6.

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: September 10, 2018, 09:49:13 am »
So, stray thought:

Mark McDonough, IC's excellent DC under Mike Welch, was a potential coaching candidate to replace him. And in Year 2 under Michael Toerper, the Bomber defense appears to have gotten better:

2013: 15.9 PA/309 YA/4.8 YPP
2014: 17.2 PA/298 YA/4.5 YPP
2015: 19.9 PA/313 YA/4.6 YPP
2016: 19.7 PA/328 YA/4.9 YPP
2017: 15.3 PA/284 YA/4.2 YPP
2018: 13.5 PA/240 YA/3.4 YPP

Obviously, this is just a rough guide for defense, since opponents, field position, turnovers are always different. And we're only two games in this season. But the job Toerper has done with the defense is really impressive.

East Region football / Re: FB: Empire 8
« on: September 10, 2018, 09:32:27 am »
Yes there were 2 deep ball that were dropped by Brockport but there was also a missed chip shot fg

I wouldn't consider a 39 yd fg a chip shot at the d3 level.

Have to agree with bports here. A 39-yard kick is tough at this level, and Ithaca was just 5-of-12 on FG attempts last season. At this point, we have to consider IC's kicking issues a feature, not a bug.

Honestly, neither team looked sharp. Port had pre-snap penalties, and Ithaca had to burn multiple timeouts in the first half to avoid them. Both teams missed scoring opportunities.

At the end of the day, if you're Ithaca, you hope that the offensive struggles were a function of two things that won't be an issue going forward: The caliber of the defense they played, and Will Gladney's absence. If that turns out to be the case, the Bombers are going to be a very, very tough out in the LL

East Region football / Re: LL in game updates
« on: September 08, 2018, 06:46:12 pm »

The order doesnít matter but they didnít use one timeout either way

The play by play shows they only had one timeout left when the drive began. They used all their TOs

East Region football / Re: LL in game updates
« on: September 08, 2018, 06:33:26 pm »

Yea the live feed doesnít show the clock and the announcers are students that arenít always clear.  I believe they called the TO on third down, but not on 2nd down which would have saved 30 seconds or so.

No it wouldn't. 40 seconds are going to run off the clock after any play IC doesn't call a TO on. It doesn't matter the order.

East Region football / Re: LL in game updates
« on: September 08, 2018, 06:15:54 pm »
So wait, are you saying they let the clock run down after the third down play? Like, they didnít call it when they could have?

East Region football / Re: LL in game updates
« on: September 08, 2018, 06:08:07 pm »
Why are you being snarky? They didnít take a knee. They played for the block. It didnít work. Michigan State did the same thing against Michigan. It worked. Ithaca beat Union a few years ago thanks to a botched punt snap. Itís about as likely as running a punt back 90 yards for a TD or going 90 yards in 2 plays

East Region football / Re: LL in game updates
« on: September 08, 2018, 05:44:03 pm »
Brockport was punting from the IC 44. Thereís almost no realistic scenario in which Ithaca can get a TD on offense with that little time left. Youíre talking 40 yards to even get into Hail Mary territory. Playing for the block was their best option.

FWIW, Gladney was moving pretty well on the sidelines. Itís not football, but if heís just nursing a quad, thatís a good sign for later in the year.

The QB decision was interesting. I wonder if that lingers into next week?

East Region football / Re: LL in game updates
« on: September 08, 2018, 03:30:00 pm »
If IC plays this well on defense all year and gets anything from the offense...look out

East Region football / Re: FB: Empire 8
« on: September 07, 2018, 12:32:47 pm »
If we ever stop calling Hartwick "Team Boltus" I'll karma snipe everyone here until the day the sun dies

East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: September 06, 2018, 10:31:50 am »
Brockport is coming off a deep playoff run and bringing a Top 10, unbeaten team to Butterfield Stadium, trying to extend a three-game winning streak against the Bombers

Ithaca will be starting a sophomore QB who earned the starting job midway through Week 2 in his freshman season.

In other words, prepare for the Golden Eagles to get smoked.

General football / Re: D3 Top 25 Fan Poll
« on: September 06, 2018, 09:15:12 am »
Someone's got Ithaca at 14? Whoo boy, that's a bit much for me

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