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There have been a couple of critical posts during the off-season that UW-Whitewater would schedule a school such as Finlandia (Mich) on it's 2015 schedule. The school's first year of football was 2014.  Not only Whitewater, but UW-Stevens Point, and UW-Oshkosh are also on Finlandia's 2015 football schedule

You can quibble about the sanity of the Finlandia schedule-makers, but ya gotta admire their guts! ;D

Time will tell whether or not this is a route to respectability.

Guts or desperation to fill a schedule? Finlandia isn't the easiest place to reach and I can't imagine too many teams with other options are roaring to go up there and play, or even host a home game against a first year independent. Not much upside to that game other than filling a date.

Men's soccer / Re: 2015 D3 Season: NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE
« on: March 25, 2015, 11:34:36 am »
W&L is going to be an interesting case to watch. Coach Pirhanian was there FOREVER. Over 30 years I believe. I think he was satisfied with putting out good kids, decent ODAC teams, and occasionally competing to win an ODAC championship. Generally W&L finds that an acceptable level for most of its athletic teams, with a few exceptions as listed below. I don't think Coach Pirhanian really had the drive to be a national factor or even to dominate the ODAC, nor do I really think that is required of a W&L coach.

W&L, as a whole, doesn't put a lot of emphasis on athletics. The facilities over the last 20 years have been brought up to scratch, maybe even very good in some areas like the indoor tennis center. However, there really isn't a huge push to take the athletic programs to a national level, just to be appropriate for the school. There are some programs that year in and out are nationally competitive, men's and women's tennis, men's and recently women's lacrosse, the men's and women's swimming teams usually have a few nationally competitive pieces, same with track and field.

But a lot of it is dependent on the coach in each sport. Those coaches are not going to slide a kid through that can't get in on his own. And W&L's standards are high. Much higher than the rest of the ODAC and close to the lower and middle NESCAC schools. We will see if Coach Singleton can transform the program or just improve it a bit. I expect it will get better based on  his drive, but dominate the ODAC? Become a national presence? I find that unlikely unless he really is an exceptional coach and recruiter.

For the record I regret ever asking how fast Dennis ran the 40.  Had I known what it would lead to I would have just left it alone.  ???

And that's the real problem, because it was a perfectly legitimate and interesting question.

Because classic automobiles are the safe alternative, I love my 1976 GMC motor home with an Olds 455 and th425 transmission and greatly miss my 1989 Jeep Grand Wagoneer with one of the last American mass production carbourated engines.

ExTP -- I have twin 3 year old sons. They don't have the best logic skills yet, so when they aren't getting their way they just yell the same thing over and over louder and louder. I hope and trust that with guidance and time they will grow out of it like my five year old daughter has, but there are people in this world that are examples of lifelong exceptions.

Men's soccer / Re: 2015 D3 Season: NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE
« on: March 17, 2015, 02:08:38 pm »
As a W&L grad I'm looking forward to that game. But I can also understand why it won't knock any of the Messiah fans' socks off...

South Region football / Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« on: March 15, 2015, 08:26:39 pm »
At the time it was central Jersey group 3. 1994 Ocean Township. We also were voted the Star Ledger top team in the state but that was fluky. No way we would have beaten the big boys, but we went undefeated and none of them did.

South Region football / Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« on: March 13, 2015, 10:37:57 am »
My sophomore year our NJ State Championship team QB was also the placekicker. He got a scholarship offer to be a placekicker at Nebraska and a host of mid-major schools but opted to go to Delaware to try and be a QB. Ended up as a pretty good receiver/kick returner with a few NFL practice squad spells and a short couple year career in NFL Europe. Since H.S. teams so often put the best athlete at QB we all know what happens when they hit higher levels...

South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: March 05, 2015, 02:27:11 pm »

Pearl Harbor dids get bombed on Dec. 7, 1941, but not by the germans. My history book must have a different author !!!!

Not an Animal House fan?

General Division III issues / Re: Sweet Briar College to Close
« on: March 05, 2015, 02:26:46 pm »
You keep referring to Hollins as the only other all female school in Virginia, Mary Baldwin is still hanging around.
I spoke to a SBC grad last nite, I don't think we've heard the last of this deal. Also heard Longwood University is interested in buying the SBC campus and turning it into a medical school.

You are right! I forgot about Mary Baldwin. My bad.

General Division III issues / Re: Sweet Briar College to Close
« on: March 05, 2015, 10:04:51 am »
In an interview this morning, the president said too much of the endowment was too restricted.

That's kind of what I was thinking. I bet a bunch of the endowment is meant for "female education" or some phrase with the same effect. I barely remember being there once, I wasn't exactly at my sober best during the visit, but I think it was a pretty place. I wonder what it will be used for.

South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: March 04, 2015, 03:07:21 pm »
For the most part I agree. There simply are too many liberal arts schools that cost a small fortune but don't really provide anything that the next one or ten down the road don't provide as well. Lots of those schools are going to have to find a way to differentiate themselves that makes the cost worthwhile. A large quantity of liberal arts schools will survive, but I expect to see many close or combine as well.

As for sports, schools can go one of two ways. Use sports to differentiate, making those schools worthwhile for kids who want to compete at high D3 levels and will pay for the chance, and schools that consider it a waste and return to club levels, dropping the associated costs. But I think you'll start to see a lot less of what we have now, which is every college having a plethora of D3 sporting activities regardless of whether it drives enrollment and tuition prices simply because "everyone else" does it as well.

It's going to be interesting and I wouldn't put my money on schools without significant endowments surviving independently.

South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: March 04, 2015, 10:48:42 am »
Good luck to Nash & Holden. Both very good players and I know they understand the reality of what they are trying to accomplish. Good for them for trying.

JK; sad news regarding Sweet Briar. Sad reality concerning small liberal arts schools with small endowments that are forced to offer substaintial tuition discounts in order to attract students. The survival of the traditional private college education is challenged. Costs are simply too high for 95% of the population seeking a BA or BS degree. Hopefully this is not the trend but I believe Sweet Briar is the 3rd private school in Virginia to make this decision. I think W&L should redistribute the wealth and help keep these schools going !!!!!!   

Hasa; your Quakers ready to win the odac this year or are ya'll going to let E&H finally win one ? I see GC fighting it out with E&H, BC and maybe RMC.       

It is sad about SBC. Especially for H-SC as first Randolph went co-ed, now SBC goes away, the only place left for dates is Hollins since I know the H-SC guys aren't real welcome at the local co-ed colleges.  No one likes a poacher!  ;D

SBC's problem was they just couldn't attract any kind of enrollment. Lots of schools saw the handwriting on the wall years ago and went co-ed. H-SC is making it work and more power to them, Wabash, Hollins, etc., but they really are the exceptions. It's a tough road to take without a whole lot of alumni support and a really good reputation.

I know SBC had some alumni support, but they just never had the reputation to draw a student body. Plus with Hollins so close by, I think it was too much supply, not enough demand.

As for W&L sharing the wealth, don't hold your breath. They are always walking around with their hands out. Definitely a "receiving" mode, not a "giving" one! I do think it's going to become a bit of survival of the fittest, as at these costs for colleges, there just is too much small, expensive, undifferentiated liberal arts supply, and I'm not sure there are enough dollars to pay for it all.

General Division III issues / Re: Sweet Briar College to Close
« on: March 04, 2015, 10:42:11 am »
I wonder if it will go to Hollins? Hollins is the remaining all female institution in the area. It'll be interesting to see how they wrap it up. While the money appears to be there, I don't think the enrollment was. Sad to see SBC go.

Hampden-Sydney must be irritated. Another source of easy dates dries up. First Randolph went co-ed, then SBC closes, all that is left is Hollins. H-SC students tend to be unwelcome at the local co-ed schools, or at least they were when I was at W&L and as long after as I bothered to keep in touch with such things.

East Region football / Re: Liberty League
« on: March 01, 2015, 11:46:26 am »
I like to think his handling of the "Whittfoot" moment was a valuable learning experience.   ;D

South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 28, 2015, 04:00:11 pm »
Sprint football is a club sport. It is basically football with size restrictions on the players. Wikipedia has a good article on it if you have interest. It seems to be slowly growing in popularity.

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