You got it tigerfan, March 21 and 22 in Salem Va.
Who knew they played one half each day?
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Since when does Division III give scholarships for football... This could get intresting.
When newbies join the boards, or when particularly stubborn people resurface, you have to go over it again. Unless you just shrug and leave them to their delusions. It's really hard to change most people's minds with logic when they truly BELIEVE something.I went to all that trouble to, respectfully, keep your name out of my previous post and like magic, you appear! LOL + karma. Just shrugging it off would be easier but not nearly as much fun though, especially in the dead of winter/off season.
When newbies join the boards, or when particularly stubborn people resurface, you have to go over it again. Unless you just shrug and leave them to their delusions. It's really hard to change most people's minds with logic when they truly BELIEVE something.
Tailgate and PurpleSuit could benefit from some useful advice from their fellow Mount friends jknezek, Dr. Acula, HScoach...among others.
I'm not sure it's all that much about strengthening the conference, though it is a good byproduct that they can play up. For the NJAC, it's about maintaining the AQ. For the E8 it's about maintaining the AQ while creating a better situation for the members. I really think the E8 got the better end of the deal, marginally, by becoming so much more geographically compact while maintaining the competitiveness. That was a good trick and it really makes for a fabulous conference.
The NJAC, as it has since the AQ was initiated, just had to scramble for members. Luckily it worked out, and adding Wesley and Salisbury is very good, adding CNU is a nice bonus as well. SVA is a bit of a lame duck, but probably not much farther than CNU. Still, it's not quite as nice a situation as the E8 worked themselves into.
Congratulations are due all around for making a move that is so incredibly sensible.
The story on the front page mentions the improved budget situations for teams, now that they don't have to travel to MD. No small thing when you have 100+ people traveling in some situations.
What am I "seeing" in these other conferences that's supposed to be similar to the LL?
The WIAC was so good last year that one of its teams finished in the Top 15 and missed the playoffs.
Hardin-Baylor plays Wesley and Trinity in the regular season.
The OAC gets a 2nd team in the playoffs frequently and Mount's OOC opponent in the last two years, Franklin, finished in the Top 25 both seasons.
Linfield schedules tough teams like Cal Lutheran and has to fill out a schedule playing in a state with three other D-III schools.
JHU has one OOC game a season, and three of the last four seasons, has played a 7 win Randolph-Macon team.
Hobart plays in a weak, one-bid conference, doesn't schedule ambitiously OOC, and trots out 8- and 9-game schedules despite the fact that there are like 16 D-III teams in New York alone. The dominance is not the issue, the scheduling is. So your comparisons make little sense to me, since Hobart is in no way similar to any of those schools you've mentioned.
My point, however, is not that this irritates me (though it does), but that maybe the LL teams are better positioned than E8/NJAC teams going forward. If everything is going to Pool A, why not play in a weak 6-team conference rather than the NJAC or E8?
No one has mentioned what I find most interesting about this. Now all 4 "regions" such as they are, have a power team. UWW in the West, Wesley in the East, UMU in the North and UMHB in the South. The North and West also have supplemental teams like Linfield and North Central and whoever wins the MIAC, an area where the South and East will still have some catching up. However, I could see the top 4 being more regional again after this shuffling. Of course, since the tourney has gone less regional for the top seeds its been more fair in my opinion, but this allows for the possibility of Regional 1 seeds and still maintaining that "fairness".
I think historically this supplemental thing would be correct, but as the playoffs has become less regional, especially in the second round. I would say the East has some very good teams that can hold their own on any given Saturday (i.e. St. John Fisher, Salisbury), even the south last year showed me that you can never count a team out (Johns Hopkins and Huntingdon).
Right, except those two things are not mutually exclusive.
The moves make perfect sense from a geographical standpoint, but the E8 and NJAC teams will have to duke it out for a Pool A bid while probably knocking themselves out of the ever-shrinking Pool C in the process, while the LL can continue to get teams in the NCAA's at 5-5 or playing a 9-game schedule (or 8 or whatever Hobart decides will be least challenging to their delicate sensibilities)
"Football is a big driver of enrollment numbers for the two private schools in this league, Wesley and Southern Virginia. The NJAC's 100-man roster limit will be raised to include a 25-man developmental squad (junior varsity) to try to mitigate the effects of moving into the league."
A good compromise. Well done to both sides for making it happen.
Ah, interesting. So presumably Wesley will be able to stash most of their freshmen onto a JV squad with the provision that they just don't dress for varsity games? I'm guessing that those guys will be allowed to practice, but just not to play in varsity games? Sort of like redshirting those guys without the extra year of eligibility...I like it. Curious - will all of the NJAC schools be permitted to use this option (the 25-man JV squad), or is this just a stopgap measure for Wesley and SV?
So, trading Salisbury and Frostburg for Cortland and Morrisville strikes me, competitively, as nearly a wash. Brockport probably fills out the middle of the conference.
So will the E8 and NJAC sit there cannibalizing each other while the LL continues to be a one-team league?