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West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: December 07, 2014, 08:12:22 pm »
...linfield got some unreal posts...

I'm going to say no. Good to have you back playball. Love your insight as a former player.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: December 02, 2014, 03:31:05 am »
I disagree. Chapman put years and years of effort into getting into the SCIAC. It's a conference that enjoys a high level of academic luster, and that's good for Chapman's brand.

I agree with this. I don't think Chapman moves up any further. I think they will be plenty happy at D3 with the combo of athletics and academics.

Plenty of doubt in my mind. Whitworth was certainly a high-quality program under Coach Hayford, but you don't just snap your fingers and win a Walnut & Bronze. It's not that easy. Just ask Steve Moore at Wooster or Glenn Robinson at F&M.

Cool, you can have your doubts. But those guys who were coming to Whitworth just beat Indiana at Indiana. It's not a snap of your fingers--especially out in the PNW island, but the talent he was bringing in would have been right up there with anyone else in the country.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: December 01, 2014, 09:16:21 pm »
To all you Hayford and Whitworth haters out there, I'll give you two more reasons to be glad Hayford went to Eastern Washington.  Two of the starters that played key roles in the EWU win over Indiana were slated to play at Whitworth.  When Hayford went to EWU he convinced both of them to follow him to EWU and walk on.  One of those guys is picked to be the Big Sky player of the year.  Wouldn't that have been fun?

WW is looking vulnerable this year.  However, I have faith that Logie will pull it together and get them playing at the level they need to be at to win the NWC.  Until they lose the crown--Long Live the King!!!

There is no doubt in my mind that had Hayford stayed, Whitworth would have won a national championship at some point. Parker Kelly, Tyler Harvey and Collin Chiverton would have looked great in a different red and black. Belated congrats, BTW, on David getting promoted.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: November 24, 2014, 12:49:49 am »
No matter what style of play, what is new information is the net result. I'm worried WW isn't even a playoff team. WMN, L&C, UPS, GF?? If the Pirates are trying to "right the ship," they might need a new captain, first mate, and crew...Ps. Whitman has 2 seniors on their team.

Three, but who's counting? ;D Plus Mounier is probably Whitman's best player and Lippi is arguably their best shooter. Whitworth's seniors are Farnsworth and Wilks. Farnsworth is either feast (@Montana) or famine (this last week), and Wilks is a decent back up post player I guess, but the offense doesn't go through them like it does with Mounier at Whitman. Whitworth is relying on Jurlina (So.), Brown (So.), Love (So.), and Staudacher (transfer) for a huge bulk of their scoring. Whitworth will have some growing pains along the way as Staudacher, Brown and Love try to find their niche in the offense, and while Jurlina becomes more disciplined on offense.

Whitworth was cold again against St. Thomas, which is starting to be a trend. I definitely am not worried that this is a playoff team, but on a national scale this team is certainly down as this weekend proved. Yeah we got our clocks cleaned by St. Thomas, but if a bad no call goes our way, we are probably 2-1 just like you guys down in W2. And at least we didn't give up 88 points to the worst shooting D3 team I've ever seen  ;D

I think the league goes Whit, Whit, UPS, LC. Until we start losing to the Willamettes and Linfields I'm not too worried.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: November 22, 2014, 08:43:16 pm »
WMN is now up 35 points on Rutgers-Newark.  These guys are terrible.  This is who you lost to WW?  At home?? WOW.  Tonight against St. Thomas might be a blood bath.  Somebody bring Logie a few extra suit jackets, I think he's going to need them.

When WMN shares the ball and lets the game come to them, they are good--top 25.  When they try to force an early one-on-one, they're not as good.  We all knew it was just a matter of time, but I think this may be the year that the power in the conference has finally shifted...

Whitman and Whitworth play two completely different styles: one is run and gun, the other is grind it out. What might work against one team might not work against another. This is not new information. But, like I've been saying all pre-season, I think this could be the year Whitman catches Whitworth. It's early, Whitman has a bunch of good seniors, while Whitworth is relying mostly on sophomores and a junior playing out of position to carry the scoring load. Hopefully the Pirates right the ship tonight.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:32:57 am »
Pinecone, I saw the ww ot session. In 5 mins of watching, here's my two cents: Agree ww is solid across the board, as usual. Also agree though that I didn't see a go-to player.

Love your play-by-play crew. Thought they were awesome. Didn't think that was a foul under the bucket on your big fellow--that call hurt. But also didn't think it was a loose ball foul at the end.
I did appreciate Logies jacket spike. I found that enjoyable. However I wish he would have gone for distance instead.  I also enjoyed seeing a referee give a technical foul AFTER the game was over...I think that speaks to the crew you had.

Interested to see WMN-Rutgers.  A WMN win sets a huge conference precedence.

It was a great jacket spike and post-game T ;D

If Whitman hits their 3's (and I think they will), they should win. Whitworth couldn't buy a bucket tonight both inside (RN was too big and long) and outside (just flat-out missed the shots).

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: November 21, 2014, 01:36:55 am »
Wish I could have seen the Whitman/St. Thomas game. I was tracking online, and it looked like a good one. Watched the Whitworth one online though and have a few thoughts. 1) Whitworth isn't what it used to be. I mean, that's obvious. This is a top 25 team, but not a top 20 team. There's no go-to player, their post play is average, and they are wholly dependent on defense. With that said, they are a very good defensive team, but I can't imagine this team being in very many shootouts. 2) Rutgers-Newark is pretty solid. Lots of length, they aren't lights out shooters, but they seem to make the shots when they needed. And they were a very good defensive team as well. Definitely a defensive battle tonight. Kudos to RN for coming into Whitworth and picking off a quality win. Didn't look like the crowd was very large, but a win is a win. 3) Those refs <

West Region football / Re: FB: Northwest Conference
« on: November 16, 2014, 11:38:10 pm »
Prayers go out from Whitworth to the entire Linfield community.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: November 16, 2014, 11:36:26 pm »
Why was Whitworth playing D'Youville?  They were 1-24 last year.  You only get 25 games in DIII--waste of a game!!!

Whitman is playing D'Youville as well FWIW, and beat them 129-88. Looks like Whitman played everyone a lot, but kept the full-court press on (forced 30 turnovers--though D'Youville is pretty bad, so who knows how long that took?). I think part of the draw was they were willing to come to us and it's not always easy to schedule D3 opponents that will come to you--especially on our tiny NWC island. Rutgers-Newark and St. Thomas are coming this weekend to face the Whits. I'm excited to see how the Whits do vs. St. Thomas! I don't know as much about R-N, but from the looks of it they aren't bad. Should give us a good insight where we are with Whitman, and where the NWC is with other teams in the west.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: November 07, 2014, 02:53:43 am »
NWC Coaches Poll is out ( No real surprises IMO.

1. Whitworth (6)
2. Whitman (3)
3. UPS
4. LC
5. Pacific
6. George Fox
7. PLU
8. Linfield
9. Willamette

I think it's clear the Whits and UPS are the top 3 that everyone is chasing. I think Fox, Pacific and LC will be in a big battle for that fourth playoff spot. Wouldn't surprise me to see Pacific sneak up there. And it's still painfully obvious that Linfield and Willamette are in "rebuilding" mode, though I think Linfield could surprise a few people. With Batiuk back, plus a couple young and talented guards, wouldn't surprise me if they can catch fire and win a few more than last year.

I'm actually a little afraid of Whitman this year. They usually bring their A game for Whitworth, but then have those slip ups (loss @ Pacific last year) along the way. If they can figure those out, they could pose a real threat to Whitworth's dominance.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: November 01, 2014, 06:55:32 pm »
Word from the inside at Whitworth is that this is Logie's deepest team since he's been here. Probably not the top-end talent we're used to seeing in the Fieldhouse, but they go 11 deep of players who would start anywhere else in the conference. I've heard they feel like their "B" squad could compete for a league title. They brought in a bunch of JuCo's to replace McConnell/McCargar and add depth up front. They also got a Spanish kid (freshman) who has been impressing. I'm willing to bet that this team will win the NWC again, though they won't be dominant. I think their depth will prevail, as they can run teams off the court--and when they go to the bench, they won't have any major drop off in talent.

Returners: Farnsworth (Sr.), Valle (Jr.), Jurlina (So.), Love (So.)
New Impact Players: Derek Isaak (So.), Alberto de Miguel (Fr.), Matt Staudacher (Jr.)
Crazy prediction: Drew Sears (6-10 So.) has a breakout year

West Region football / Re: FB: Northwest Conference
« on: September 24, 2014, 02:32:00 am »
Heading up to Whitworth for the Chapman game on Saturday. Then over to Hope ID for a week. Any suggestions for places to eat?

Should be a high scoring game.

Depends on what you're looking for.

Wolf Lodge in Coeur d'Alene is the best steakhouse in the area, The Elk in Spokane has killer pork tacos (and make sure to get the corn pasta), and if you're into healthy and natural food, Central Foods in Spokane is really good--plus it has a great view of downtown/river. Up north by Whitworth Selkirk and McClain's have good pizza and are great places to watch sports. Hope that helps!

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: July 31, 2014, 01:44:56 am »
Whitworth Basketball 2014 Recruiting Class:
Matt Staudacher   61 Junior PG                Simon Fraser University (Lake Washington HS Class of 2012 Kirkland, WA)
Simon Fraser University Highlights
Forrest Baker   67 RS-Sophomore F         Lewis & Clark State (Mead HS Class of 2012 Spokane, WA)
HS Highlights
Austin Damon   65 RS-Sophomore F       Northwest Nazarene (Lewis & Clark HS Class of 2012 Spokane, WA)
HS Highlights:
Alberto De Miguel 67 Freshman F          MacDuffie Prep School (Madrid, Spain)
Prep School Highlights:
Real Madrid Club Highlights:
Josh Thayer 59 Freshman PG                     Stanwood High School  (Seattle, WA)

A Buc Forever: Here's the official release.

Looks like the guys you said plus Derek Isaak, a RS Soph. transfer from NNU where he averaged 8.2 ppg and made nearly 42% from behind the arc. He reminds me a lot of someone Hayford would have recruited: small school, state he scored 44 points in the state championship. The kid can shoot. The last guy from ACH who came to Whitworth to play basketball worked out pretty well (Nate Dunham, who was the 1996 NCIC Player of the Year and a First Team NAIA Division II All-American).

I couldn't find a highlight package on him, but here is the state championship when he scored 44 points (he's wearing #22 for the white team).

Obviously I hope Whitworth continues the dominance, but this will be an interesting year for Logie since it will be his first without Hayford recruits. I don't think he has the talent that Hayford amassed, but we will see.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: March 13, 2014, 11:13:31 pm »
A couple things that I hope shed light and answer questions. Let's start with Whitman: As a WW fan, I would kill for their gym. I think it's a stinking cool place to play. Our airport hanger is used for the luau, Relay for Life, and a few other orientation events. I believe that the Fieldhouse might be on its way out, as WW looks to improve that facility in the next 10 years. Back to Whitman. They actually do have a load of cash for their men's basketball team. I remembered they got a $3 million gift a few years back and after a quick Google search, all I could find was that their men's tennis blog copy/pasted their official press release (I'm guessing in the Whitman athletics web site transition, they lost some old pressers):

So yeah, Whitman has some money to spend. For Nate Montgomery, he was overlooked out of HS but WW didn't recruit him for hoops either. I remember Hayford saying something along the lines of "He didn't make the team his freshman year, but he was 6-9 so we kept him around" at his senior thing. I remember he was sort of a clumsy kid who could only dunk his first year on the team, but he turned into a beast.

I'm interested to see who both Bridgeland and Logie bring in next year. It would be nice if Logie could pull another big, but he does have to replace three starting guards. Love and CJ look ready to step up, but looking for that third stud. Wouldn't surprise me if Whitworth plays bigger next year, starting Love/CJ/Valley/Wilkes/Farnsworth. It'll be fun to see how some of the younger players on both teams develop.

As Rat said, WW has Jan Term too. Guess it helps when your team wins. UPS used to have some killer crowds--maybe just against WW--but they were fun crowds when we traveled over there.

West Region / Re: Northwest Conference
« on: March 04, 2014, 01:09:02 pm »
I don't care what anyone else thinks, but to me two things will never get old on this board:
1) The infighting at Linfield, and 2) The "Bridgeland is the greatest coach ever!!!1!" meme.

On a separate note, Whitworth handled Trinity earlier this season, but the Tigers were without their second leading scorer (Lambert). I expect it to be a different game--though the Pirates have been a little more consistent offensively as of late.

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