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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« on: October 13, 2019, 11:50:07 pm »
Week Six:

Concordia Chicago 27 (1-1, 3-2)
Aurora 63 (2-0, 4-1)

Rockford 13 (0-2, 1-4)
Benedictine 48 (2-0, 3-2)

Eureka 26 (1-1, 3-2)
Wisconsin Lutheran 20 (OT) (1-1, 1-4)

Concordia Wisconsin 0 (0-2, 2-3)
Lakeland 44 (1-1, 2-3)

Didn't get to see the game this week as I was traveling, but a total beatdown to regain the Cheese Bowl is not what I was expecting. Not complaining though! CUW was expected to contend this year, and two losses have all but buried those hopes, while Eureka needed overtime to avoid the same fate.

Next week, the Spartans and Eagles both hit the road as they look to remain unbeaten in conference play.

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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« on: October 05, 2019, 10:27:23 pm »
Week Five:

Wisconsin Lutheran 27 (1-0, 1-3)
Rockford 13 (0-1, 1-3)

Lakeland 26 (0-1, 1-3)
Concordia Chicago 31 (1-0, 3-1)

Eureka 35 (0-1, 2-2)
Aurora 62 (1-0, 3-1)

Benedictine 27 (1-0, 2-2)
Concordia Wisconsin 21 (OT) (0-1, 2-2)

It was the 3rd quarter that did the Muskies in - taking a 1 point game at halftime to an 18 point game in the opening minute of the 4th, which proved to be too big a hill to climb. But credit needs to be given to CUC, who appears to be this year's team to defy their preseason expectations like CUW did last year.

Was not expecting the Cheese Bowl next week to be a virtual must-win for both of those teams already. But you just never know in the NACC.

Elsewhere, Aurora (re?)establishes themselves as the conference favorites, Benedictine has Williams carry them to victory in overtime (5 rushes, no passes on the winning drive), and WLC opens their account in the win column.

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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« on: October 01, 2019, 11:51:10 am »
Week Four:

(ARV) UW-Platteville 55
Lakeland 28 (1-2)

Pleasantly surprised with how the Muskies looked on offense, especially with Wilson making his first career start behind center. There were some freshman mistakes but also some very encouraging signs. On defense...well, not so much.

Next week, it begins for really real.

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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« on: September 22, 2019, 01:49:15 am »
To be specific:

Concordia Wisconsin 16 (2-1)
(ARV) Trine 21

(ARV) Aurora 32 (2-1)
Hope 34

Eureka 41 (2-1)
Albion 56

Lakeland 28 (1-1)
Kalamazoo 7

Concordia Chicago 23 (2-1)
Finlandia 12

Rockford 16 (1-2)
Alma 51

Benedictine 6 (1-2)
Olivet 21

Wisconsin Lutheran 29 (0-3)
Adrian 32 (2 OT)

It was an encouraging performance by Lakeland today, as they took control in the 2nd half after both teams left chances wanting before the break. Platteville will surely be a stiff test next week - interested to see how the Muskies handle it.

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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« on: September 16, 2019, 12:25:47 pm »
Week Two scores:

Wisconsin Lutheran 14 (0-2)
Lawrence Tech 34

Olivet 54
Concordia Chicago 24 (1-1)

Concordia Wisconsin 31 (2-0)
Augsburg 0

Rockford 20 (1-1)
Martin Luther 34

Aurora 48 (2-0)
Elmhurst 22

Benedictine 14 (1-1)
Loras 42

MacMurray 24
Eureka 41 (2-0)

3-4 this week, with Lakeland being the only team who will play in Week 4 instead. Next week, everyone heads across and/or around the pond - if you're planning to watch on stream, remember many of these will be noon Central kickoffs.

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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« on: September 10, 2019, 05:56:12 pm »
Curious... 5 schools from the SLIAC play Football... 4 of them are in the UMAC (Westminster, MacMurray, Greenville, Iowa Wesleyan)... one, Eureka, is in the NACC..

The NACC makes so much more sense travel wise... Eureka moved from the UMAC to the NACC 2 years ago... Did any of the other four schools consider it, or compete for a spot?  Was only one spot available?   Will the NACC consider adding more SLIAC teams in the future, or is the membership for football full?  I am a basketball guy, thought all 5 schools were UMAC, just realized that Eureka was NACC... pleased to see Eureka is tied for No 1 with Aurora in preseason poll in NACC.

It would seem to make sense for the SLIAC teams to want to get into the NACC for football, but if I remember correctly the NACC was down to seven teams (the minimum for NCAA automatic playoff consideration) after Maranatha dropped football and with talk of Benedictine leaving for DII there may have been a perceived need for one more team for the NACC but perhaps no more. I haven't done any Google Map projections but I think that Eureka is the closest of the SLIAC football playing schools to the NACC base of northern Illinois and Wisconsin.  It might not be that no other SLIAC schools want to join the NACC but that the NACC was not looking for other teams. (Although they did just accept St. Norbert.) If I remember correctly, Eureka has background with some of the NACC schools as I think they were members of the Illini-Badger Conference in the way-back.

Good memory, RFMichigan. Eureka was in the Illini-Badger until 2008, when the NACC started sponsoring football and took Aurora, Benedictine, CUC, CUW and Lakeland with them.

Greenville and MacMurray were also members of the IBFC. RFMichigan pretty much has the timeline correct - the NACC would have been down to 6 football schools had Benedictine gone to D2. St. Norbert is joining the conference for all sports so they're a different case - they'll put the league at 9 for football once they do (and 13/14 for most other sports).

Speaking of the Green Knights, did not expect Aurora to hang 50 on them.

hopefan, not only is Eureka tied for #1 in the preseason poll, they are also the defending champions!

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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« on: September 06, 2019, 01:40:21 pm »
One score from last night to get the season underway:

Lake Forest 27
Wisconsin Lutheran 15

The other seven teams all open on Saturday - four in the afternoon and three in the evening.

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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« on: August 21, 2019, 01:36:25 pm »
2019 NACC Preseason Poll
1. Eureka (6), 105
1. Aurora (5), 105
3. Lakeland (4), 99
4. Concordia Wisconsin (1), 88
5. Benedictine, 74
6. Wisconsin Lutheran, 38
7. Concordia Chicago, 37
8. Rockford, 30

Per usual, voting was done by head coaches and SIDs on an 8-7-6-etc. scale. First place votes are in parentheses - I don't remember them having been split between four different teams before.

ETA: Apparently, I have a pretty short memory. ;D

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North Region football / Re: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
« on: August 02, 2019, 04:16:58 pm »
I hope AU has a good season, and assume AU will make the playoffs this year so Iíll extend my congratulations in advance.

I assume there would be about seven other schools that would take exception with that assumption. Unless there are things I'm missing that I'll only find out in Kickoff 2019 (cheap plug ;D - but seriously, get it), this season seems like it ought to be even more wide open than the NACC usually is.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Conference changes
« on: July 12, 2019, 04:40:54 pm »
St. Norbert moves from the Midwest Conference to the NACC starting in 2020-21.
Conference Changes Starting in 2020-2021
St. Norbert leaves the MWC for the NACC

Conference Changes Starting in 2021-2022
St. Thomas involuntarily removed from MIAC, will go to ???

The official release on the St. Norbert website says they will join the NACC beginning in the 2021-22 school year.  And on the NACC website, the members pull-down menu lists 2021 for St. Norbert and the St. Norbert page on the NACC website lists 2021-22 as the year they become full members.  I couldn't find an official release from the NACC.

However, almost all other mentions of their move to the NACC, not only by media outlets but by St. Norbert itself, says they will join in 2020-21, including in the St. Norbert College Magazine article and the St. Norbert facebook post and twitter tweet that link to the official release.

So, what is the story?  I would tend to believe the official release and NACC website, but how would it get reported incorrectly by so many outlets and people, including within St. Norbert College itself?  Any insight?

Good catch on that! Please note, the below is pure speculation on my part.

The original news article on the NACC website said they would join in 2020-21. This, combined with the above, would lead me to believe that they originally intended to join the NACC in 20-21 but that it got pushed back a year since the initial announcement, so the current plan is to join in 21-22.

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Sorry to interject here. But if people who would actually get on the field at top end CCIW/WIAC schools were coming to play in the NACC, the aforementioned teams wouldn't slaughter our champions in the playoffs basically every single year.

There have been individual players who take that decision, but never enough to make an impact on the national level - and the road to that point will be a long and gradual one if it even exists. But adding a head coach with a big name, and a school with a history of success and even of some playoff success, are both good steps towards improving the standard of play in the NACC.

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I don't have a horse in this race, but a couple snippets of the conference's statement jumped out at me:

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The MIAC Presidents' Council cites athletic competitive parity in the conference as a primary concern.
"It's not you, it's us." Wow, this looks...rather pathetic now that they actually came out and said it. There are other conferences that have dominant teams, more.dominant that UST is/was in the MIAC - do you see them kicking those teams out, or trying to rise to the challenge?

To which conferences do you refer, Ryan?

To be honest, I can't think of another D3 league that has an all-sports competition history that's this lopsided in favor of one school. But I'll be honest -- I may be overlooking one.

Pat, can you think of another D3 league that has an all-sports competition history that's more lopsided in favor of one school than this, especially over the last decade and a half?

Note: This is not a comment upon the decision that the MIAC presidents made today, in regard to which I am totally neutral. Like Ryan, I have no horse in this race. Your own business is your own business, MIACers. I'm simply trying to get the facts straight.

Wartburg College has won 17 straight IIAC / ARC All Sports titles. Tied 2 times but more times that not,  Men and women sweep.
http://rollrivers.com/sports/2010/8/11/GEN_AllSportsTrophy.aspx?

Very impressive, and similar to UST's dominance in the MIAC. Again, though, Ryan's post was about other schools being more dominant than UST in the MIAC -- and that's not the case with Wartburg and the IIAC/ARC.

I'm not actually sure which conference(s) I refer to. I wasn't aware how dominant UST had historically been in the MIAC across all sports, and I was also thinking along the lines of individual sports rather than an athletic department as a whole.

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Concordia Chicago bounced back from a loss in their 2nd game at the regional, surviving 3 elimination games to win it! They will host #18 Webster in the super regional beginning Friday; the two teams split a pair of games earlier this month.

Aurora went 1-2 in their regional, getting eliminated by Wash U in extra innings. (Revenge for the 2018 basketball tournament? ;D)

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I don't have a horse in this race, but a couple snippets of the conference's statement jumped out at me:

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The MIAC Presidents' Council cites athletic competitive parity in the conference as a primary concern.
"It's not you, it's us." Wow, this looks...rather pathetic now that they actually came out and said it. There are other conferences that have dominant teams, more.dominant that UST is/was in the MIAC - do you see them kicking those teams out, or trying to rise to the challenge?

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St. Thomas is one of seven founding members of the MIAC and will leave the conference in good standing with a long and appreciated history of academic and athletic success.
An appreciated history of athletic success, huh? Kicking them out over it is sure an odd way to show it.

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I know this is a football page but can someone tell me how a team that finished 5th in the conference in softball made the D3 softball playoffs?  I donít get it....

https://twitter.com/csb_athletics/status/1125450055245291520?s=21

They didn't even make the MIAC playoffs? They must have knocked off some highly ranked teams or something. Interesting.

Possibly...they were ranked #5 regionally but split against each of the four teams that were in the MIAC tournament (U$T, Hamline, Olaf and St Kateís). One more thing that wonít sit well w the #COL!

How do you get to be ranked 5th in the region if you only finish 5th in your own conference? ???

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