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Messages - Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

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Central Region / Re: MBB: Midwest Conference
« on: May 21, 2020, 01:58:00 pm »


Of course, the obvious points on the flip side are that the UWGB job offers the salary, prestige, and program resources that SNC can't match.

I'm sure the salary is more... but it might not be eye-poppingly more Ö

Darner was getting $230,000 per year, plus incentives.  I dare say that's significantly more than SNC is paying.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Conference changes
« on: May 15, 2020, 11:25:52 am »
I'd say six. Delhi's already out the door. Full member of the NAC as of last year (2019-20). Basketballs/softball presumably left in the ACAA one final year to sync up with NAC's scheduling rotation.

Right.  They're still associate member in a few things, that's why they're still on the website.  I forgot.

So that means the "new" conference will only have six the first year they would be relegated to Pool B, which was the only reason for the merger in the first place.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Conference changes
« on: May 15, 2020, 09:00:24 am »
The news of Pine Manor closing puts the ACAA-CAC conglomeration at just seven men's teams for 2021-22, and that's assuming Pratt stays on track with transition. Delhi will be a full member soon and maybe a candidate to leave for a more stable conference.

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California just announced its 23 university campuses will conduct most classes online, affecting over 500,000 students.

The loss of sport will doom North Park University.  Viking football and soccer players tend to chose my alma mater primarily to play sport. If there is no season, those kids will not enroll and go elsewhere. No money coming in to live in the dorm or attend class.  Uff da!

I have encouraged the President since she started her job to cut football, track, cross country, tennis...and there could be others...to save money, and join the NAIA, which does not require a minimum of 14 athletic teams.  She never responds to my emails.  John Born does not either.

Is 14 a CCIW minimum?  I believe the D3 minimum is still 10, right?

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South Region / Re: MBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
« on: May 12, 2020, 08:25:24 am »
Colorado College has announced their incoming recruiting class on their Twitter and Instagram. 4 person class, two from Colorado, two from elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/CCMensBBall/status/1259886200506048513

Does CC have a coach yet?

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Mount Rushmore of D3 Coaches
« on: May 08, 2020, 11:48:00 am »
Ryan, I can see where you are coming from, but for this subject - the Mount Rushmore of D3 Coaches -  weíre suggesting coaches that are worthy based on quantitative data Ė wins/W%/national championships/etc. And frankly thatís all we really have to go off of when looking at the group as a whole.

I understand that wins & losses donít entirely define how good a coach is, but for all-time discussions coaches need to achieve some of those things mentioned above to the be in the conversation. At the same time, Roy Williams, a member of Dick Vitaleís DI coaching Mount Rushmore, just went 14-19. The first losing season of his career. Anyone that was around the team or attended practice probably isnít going to state that Roy forgot how to coach.

That was my original question - do we have set criteria or are we just all using our own?

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Mount Rushmore of D3 Coaches
« on: May 08, 2020, 10:15:42 am »
And I've always felt recruiting was the one thing that's not very d3 about d3hoops. I'd love to see schools recruit students and coaches do their best with who shows up. I recognize that's not possible, but the notion that athletics plays a part in a kid's college choice at this level has never sat well with me. I would want to minimize that in this discussion. Winning a title with the best players should reflect more on the players than the coach.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Mount Rushmore of D3 Coaches
« on: May 08, 2020, 08:36:23 am »
See, I'd tend to say the best coach is the one who can get the most out of five random human beings who may or may not have ever seen a basketball. I give recruiting zero influence inn my decisions. Obviously wins reflect recruiting to some extent, but recruiting is definitely my least favorite part of d3hoops.

But, like, all those teams we end up voting for in the Top 25, or the ones we talk about as Pool C candidates, or those we enjoy watching in Fort Wayne...they all got there because of recruiting more than anything.  You can't be a good team without good players.

But you can be a good coach without good players.  That's my point.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Mount Rushmore of D3 Coaches
« on: May 07, 2020, 07:15:32 pm »
See, I'd tend to say the best coach is the one who can get the most out of five random human beings who may or may not have ever seen a basketball. I give recruiting zero influence inn my decisions. Obviously wins reflect recruiting to some extent, but recruiting is definitely my least favorite part of d3hoops.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Mount Rushmore of D3 Coaches
« on: May 07, 2020, 03:03:49 pm »

So, we did, at some point, decide the list should be about accomplishments over one's ability to coach?  I have a hard time separating the notion of what a coach has accomplished on the floor and to what degree I'd be excited about a potential basketball playing child to be on the coach's team.

Isn't it kind of both? I mean if you can coach, theoretically, the wins and what not will come. Or at least you should be able to showcase enough coaching ability to put yourself in a position where you can do that. It should be a sliding scale---the achievements and totality argument isn't the be all and end all, but if we're talking about the very best coaches, who have been doing it for decades, doesn't it all become the same thing at some point?

I'm not sure it is.  There are definitely different approaches to this, for sure.  I'm not saying I'm correct in my opinion, but, for example, I'd never put Bobby Knight on a "best" list anywhere. The guy got results, for sure, and he knows basketball, but I just don't respect the way he went about his job.  That's not to say I'm right and he's wrong, but I feel a certain way about it.

From a different perspective, you might mention John Calipari.  The guy can flat out recruit.  He gets great talent and he wins a lot with them.  No one (Cal included, I think), will tell you he's among the best at coaching basketball.  Many would argue his coaching has cost him as many titles as his recruiting has earned him.

For me, if I were making a list like this (and I've come to the conclusion that four is too few), I would certainly do more than just put together a resume of accomplishments.  That's an important element, but I don't think that should be the primary means of constructing such a list.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Mount Rushmore of D3 Coaches
« on: May 07, 2020, 08:59:03 am »

So, we did, at some point, decide the list should be about accomplishments over one's ability to coach?  I have a hard time separating the notion of what a coach has accomplished on the floor and to what degree I'd be excited about a potential basketball playing child to be on the coach's team.

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Calvin's schedule is posted, if that hasn't made it to the board yet.

https://calvinknights.com/sports/mbkb/2020-21/schedule

It currently lists Augustana twice on Friday Nov 20 and Sat 21, but I'm guessing one of those is Illinois Wesleyan which would complete the four-year cycle.

Non-conference slate is Illinois Tech, UW-Stout, Augustana, (Illinois Wesleyan), Anderson, Wheaton, Wooster Tournament (x2), Cornerstone, Aquinas, and THE Grace Christian University.

So they're now the Christian Tigers instead of the Bible Tigers?

Nope, always the Bible Tigers

I think it might actually be Bibletigers - at least that's the way it has always been used around here :)

I think it was one word in the original Old Testament Greek.

I can't tell if this was a sarcastic fail or an unintentional one.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Mount Rushmore of D3 Coaches
« on: April 28, 2020, 09:56:28 am »

I imagine one's age has a lot to do with whether they consider Bo Ryan a D1 or a D3 coach.  Fifteen years is not a cup of coffee; I think he deserves to be considered, although certainly another 15 or so years in D1 is a negative for the case.


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General Division III issues / Re: Future of Division III
« on: April 27, 2020, 01:31:07 pm »

For what it's worth in the debate, Harvard has said publicly they've got about 20% of the endowment unrestricted.  You'd think this would be the "rainy day" they might've been saving up for.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: April 23, 2020, 05:58:58 pm »
I wouldn't be surprised if there are 20% fewer colleges in the US this time next year. Even if campuses open, most protections have a 15-20% enrollment drop at most institutions. Many schools won't be able to survive that even one year. The elite selective schools won't feel it because they always have waiting lists to draw from, but there will be fiscal pressures everywhere and it might just be education's turn to get market corrected during this recession. A lot of things will look different in 2021.

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