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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: The Undefeated and the Winless
« on: Today at 06:57:08 am »

Is it time for the vs d3 lists to appear?

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Top 25 talk
« on: Today at 06:56:38 am »

I looked at Massey after I submitted my ballot last night.  I had 23 of my Top 25 in Massey's Top 30 and everyone I voted for was in his Top 50.  I can't recall being that in synch with "the numbers" this early in the season before.  The order is pretty different, of course, but I thought it was an interesting observation.

I feel bad for Alma...

Leading by two points with 20 seconds left and the ball.  They inbound then dribble in to a Whitewater defender.  Out of control.  Appropriate foul called.  Whitewater ball.  Two free throws.  Overtime.

Seriously, though, that schedule.



Tuesday Dec 11th
Westfield St (MASCAC) @ Pine Manor (ACAA) 6:00pm
St Elizabeth (NEAC) @ Bryn Athyn (CSAC) 7:00pm

Thursday Dec 13th
New England College (NECC) @ Colby-Sawyer (GNAC) 7:00pm
Wesley (AEC) @ Birmingham-Southern (SAA) 8:00pm

Saturday Dec 15th
Webster (SLIAC) @ Spalding (SLIAC) 2:00pm
Franklin (HCAC) @ Bluffton (HCAC) 4:00pm
UC Santa Cruz (Ind) @ Caltech (SCIAC) 6:00pm

Sunday Dec 16th
Washington & Lee (ODAC) vs Nazareth (E8) 12:00pm [@ Daytona Beach, FL]

Monday Dec 17th
Baldwin Wallace (OAC) @ Trine (MIAA) 4:00pm

Tuesday Dec 18th
Whitman (NWC) vs Wooster (NCAC) 4:00pm [@ Mesa, AZ]
La Roche (AMCC) @ Hope (MIAA) 7:30pm

Wednesday Dec 19th
Widener (MACC) vs Case Western Reserve (UAA) 2:00pm [@ Miami, FL]
Moravian (Land) @ Yeshiva (Sky) 8:00pm

Thursday Dec 20th
Louisiana College (ASC) @ Millsaps (SAA) 4:00pm

Friday Dec 21st
UW-Whitewater (WIAC) @ Loras (ARC) 8:00pm

Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 07, 2018, 06:49:36 am »
There were 5 seconds left. You know once Francis got the ball he wasn’t going to pass it.

You know no such thing. Francis dished out eight assists last night. Eight. Run him off the ball, and he'll put the ball into the hands of whomever you've enabled to take an easy game-winning shot and make it nine assists.

Wheaton was going to live or die with the shot coming from its best player. Nothing was gained by Bair just staying put. If he breaks back when Francis does, they still may have gotten the ball in to Francis, but it would have been deeper giving Francis further to go before launching the winner. Maybe that would have allowed a bit of extra time for another defender to get closer to Francis and prevent an obstile to his getting off the final shot. Maybe not. But when he got the ball so easily where he did, he only had to beat Bonnett who had bounced off Adom and picked him up. The problem is Francis had caught the ball cleanly, and had gotten up a full head of steam. I don’t think you can fault Bonnett who stayed with Francis pretty well after picking him up. But its just to hard for one guy to do much with that stepback/sidestep move Francis has. The mistake was letting him catch the ball so easily.

It doesn't seem to me that you've looked at the play at all, Mark, because Francis anticipated either a double-team or contact on the inbounds pass and thus took a very circuitous route to catch the ball. Watch it here. Note where he is at 0:07, where he catches the inbound. He's practically right on top of the arc at the other freakin' end of the floor. He came off of the Adom screen expecting trouble, and he went a long way to his right to make sure that he caught that pass unimpeded. In other words, he himself made his path from Point A to Point B a lot longer, doing exactly what a hedge or feint from Bair would've done. And guess what? It didn't matter one bit. Francis is fast, and he ate up that extra real estate with plenty of time to spare.

When Francis passed out those assists the game wasn’t on the line, and there was plenty of time left for more than ONE last shot. And everybody knew who was taking that shot.
When you have the leading scorer in the country on your team you’re going to have someone else attempt the game winning shot?  Really? ???
I suppose you’re also sending up a .165 hitter to bat for the league MVP with two outs in the bottom of the ninth, and the winning run on third! Ridiculous.
In the end, no, it didn’t matter. But IWU should have made more of an effort to deny the guy that even the man on the moon knew was taking the last shot. Period.

I was going to chime in yesterday, but figured the conversation would soon be over.  I forgot what board this is.

Anyway, with seven seconds left, down two and a backcourt inbound, I don't think Francis was necessarily going to take that shot.  I'm sure they planned to put the ball in his hands and let him make a decision (which will definitely be shoot, if he gets even a mildly decent look), but thinking about IWU's options, him shooting was no guarantee.

To me, the other tactic they could've taken was to run two guys at him in the backcourt, when he received the ball - force a pass.  The problem with that is: With seven seconds, there's time for another pass, if not two.  The Wheaton had just worked the ball in low pretty effectively twice.  You have to have really well drilled defensive positioning for three guys to cover two in a situation like that.  If I'm a coach and we haven't specifically worked on this in practice at some point, I don't know that I take the risk.

No, I know, I would've run two guys at him.  It might've backfired or maybe there's some other consideration I'm missing.  I do think Rose admitted he needed a second defender when Francis got into the frontcourt - maybe that's really the way to go.  Run down the clock a little, then try to force the pass.

I don't think anyone's really going to fault them all that much for losing this one the way they did.

Mid-Atlantic Region / Re: Landmark Conference
« on: December 07, 2018, 06:37:06 am »
Yes,But my question  is why let them know?Dave for instance will not mention his name but there was 45 fouls in Scranton vs Cabrini I mean this guy was show boating and I would to if I new someone was watching me, it took 2 and half hours to complete this game!This guy went to the official desk more times then I go thru McDonalds drive thru in a month.All I'm looking for is consistancy.

If that's true, it's not the kind of behavior that will get evaluated well.  He wasn't doing it to show off to other officials - that's for sure.

Mid-Atlantic Region / Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« on: December 07, 2018, 06:34:04 am »

Especially Haverford.

East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: December 07, 2018, 06:30:46 am »

I think Fitch is the active career leader, which might've been the intended reference.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Top 25 discussion
« on: December 07, 2018, 06:26:42 am »
So question I take it your a voter gordonmann?So Umass-Dartmouth losses to The no1 team in girls and there record is 6-1?Okay then I was told the other day that Scranton men dont deserve to be ranked because they haven't beaten anyone yet at 7-0  they stomped  York,Cabrini and Stevenson on York and Stevenson home court but they shouldn't be ranked!But a team I get it women loses to Bowdoin*no 1 tea and they deserve to be in the top 25 please explain the knowledge of your voting ways ?

Just to clarify, this is the women's Top 25 board.  Gordon votes in the women's poll, not the men's.  It's a separate slate of voters in each.

This is probably a better conversation for the men's Top 25 board:

Just quickly, York graduated five or six seniors, basically all of their production from last year.  They are not the same team.  Cabrini graduated their best player and lost their second best player to transfer.  The schedule the Scranton men have played thus far is not one that can tell a voter anything.  They're on the radar, for sure.  They're getting some votes, but they're going to have to keep it up a little longer, especially when relying on freshman and with a few years of under-performing expectations.  Don't worry, it's only December.  They have plenty of time.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
« on: December 06, 2018, 01:54:34 pm »

1990 was the only year The Belt didn't change hands at all.  Odds are it'll get passed around at least a little bit this year.

Mid-Atlantic Region / Re: MBB: Capital Athletic Conference
« on: December 05, 2018, 07:47:32 am »
Quiet in here...overall, the conference is off to a good start, particularly Salisbury at 7-0, which is surprising to me...looks like the interim coach has 'em playing some good ball.

They're definitely playing above their talent right now, which is a testament to the coach and the team's effort.  It's pretty cool to see.  I hope they can keep it up.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Top 25 talk
« on: December 04, 2018, 06:30:22 am »
Nobody wants this to go on forever so I’ll close with two thoughts.

1. I’m happy my team is currently ranked #20. No matter how many points it took to get there.

2. I think anybody whose team is ranked is going to say “we’re ranked (whatever #) in the current poll,” before they say “we got 406 points in the latest poll.”

The defense rests.

It's fine to say teams, fans, and players care more about the spot than the points, but you can't use that argument to criticize the voters.  The voters dropped them; they lost more than 50% of their support in the poll.  I wasn't voting for them last week, so it's hard to vote for them less this week.

If we all got together and discussed each team and collectively ranked them, then, yeah, the voters might deserve some criticism, but this is 25 individual ballots - the points are literally the only way to tell when a team goes up or down in perception.


That's with three Springfield losses they probably wouldn't have had without the injury to Ross.

Pick-ems, fantasy leagues, etc. / Re: OFFSEASON: Mega Draft
« on: December 02, 2018, 12:09:32 pm »

Andrew Vickers, formerly of Lewis and Clark, plays for Whitman.

I think Tyler Dion plays for Worcester State.

Pick-ems, fantasy leagues, etc. / Re: D3 Men's National Pick Em League
« on: December 02, 2018, 11:30:06 am »
I'm above .500 and still in last place.  That feels unfair.  Let's hope for some regression.


Tuesday, December 4
Middlebury @ Plattsburgh St, 7:30 pm

Wednesday, December 5
Misericordia @ Wilkes, 6 pm
Scranton @ York(PA), 8 pm
Wheaton(IL) @ IWU, 8 pm
New Jersey City @ Montclair State, 8 pm
Salisbury @ Marymount, 8 pm

Thursday, December 6
Babson @ Amherst, 7 pm

Saturday, December 8
Skidmore @ Middlebury, 4 pm
Randolph-Macon @ Christopher Newport, 4 pm
IWU @ Augustana, 8 pm

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