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Week 4

Dec. 7
Bowdoin @ Bates  7:30 PM
Buena Vista @ Loras  9:00 PM
Mary Washington @ St. Mary's (Md.)  8:00 PM
North Park @ Illinois Wesleyan  8:00 PM

Dec. 8
Babson @ Amherst  7:00 PM
Louisiana College @ Centenary (La.)  8:00 PM

Staten Island @ Lehman  7:00 PM

Dec. 10
Webster @ Westminster (Mo.)  4:00 PM
Buffalo State @ Oswego State 2:00 PM
Wittenberg @ Denison  3:00 PM

Dec. 10  All 10 teams in action today in the YAC

There are some interesting possibilities because of the records and the way the teams match up. It's possible (and not that big a stretch) that there could be a 6 way tie for 1st place at the end of the afternoon with all 6 teams having a 3-1 record. First and foremost, Plattsburgh needs to beat conference leader Brockport, for that to have any chance of happening. A Golden Eagle win assures them of sole possession of first place. So then, if the Cardinals do their part and if Oswego beats Buffalo State, Cortland beats Fredonia, Oneonta beats New Paltz, and Geneseo defeats Potsdam all six teams would end the day with 3-1 records. With the selections my crystal ball will be predicting I think there will be 5 teams tied for 1st place at the end of the day. (So I just gave away who I think will win the Brockport-Plattsburgh game but I don't think I surprised anyone. ???)        

Pressed for time just some quick picks today. I hate these 2 o'clock games and 5:30 games.

Buffalo State 1-2  5-2 at  Oswego State 2-1  6-3        2:00 PM

Bengals don't want or need a lost weekend. A loss here could be devastating. The Lakers have been playing just well enough to win. but i think their luck runs out here. The Lakers are favored by a single point. Teams have split the past few years, each winning at home. I'm taking the Bengals to mix things up and win on the road by a 79-75 final score.

Oneonta State 2-1  3-4  at  New Paltz State  0-3  1-7     2:00 PM

These Red Dragons will defeat their travel partners by the established point spread which is 11 points. Oneonta 80 New Paltz 69

Geneseo State  2-1  5-3  at  Potsdam State  0-3  1-6        2:00 PM

The Knights look to go 2-0 on their trip north. Oddsmakers have them as a 12 point favorite. That's not enough. Decker and Ringen both light it up today for the first time all year. Geneseo 88 Potsdam 70.   

Fredonia State 1-2  3-5  at  Cortland State 2-1  5-2        2:00 PM

Blue Devils played Oswego tough and could cause problems here. Notice I said could. Oddsmakers have them as 10 point dogs. Cortland should win by 14. Unless Mr Hyde shows up. Red Dragons  win 78-64. 

Featured Game of the Week

Brockport State 3-0  7-1  at  Plattsburgh State 2-1  6-2        2:00 PM

Always a battle when these two teams get together and usually a barnburner as well. No reason to think today's game will be any different. Home court means nothing as each team has win on the other team floor numerous time in the past decade and did so last year. The oddsmakers had Plattsbugh as a 6 point favorite yesterday but overnight the line has dropped to 4 points based on Friday's results. I'm going with the Cardinals but know that anything can happen in this one. Plattsburgh 86 Brockport 83.

Geneseo State 86 Plattsburgh State 71

The final score doesn't indicate how close this game was for the first 36 minutes. It was a 2 possession game at 76-70 with 3:57 left in the game but Geneseo came down and got a layup from Jack Eisenberg to build the lead up to 8 points. The Cardinals came down, misfired, and Eisenberg was fouled. He made both free throws, the Knights had the first double digit lead of the game, and time was running out on the Cardinals. Plattsburgh came up empty the next 5 times they had the ball, as they turned it over or were throwing up shots from long distance, and the Knights increased the lead to the final 15 point margin.

Congratulations to Geneseo. They played better than Plattsburgh did, especially in the 2nd half and deserved to win this contest. I said in my earlier write up about the game, that Justin Ringen had struggled this season but I expected to see him at or near his previous All Conference form. He was all of that, as he captured scoring honors with 21 points.

If you had told me that John Decker would "only" get 16 points tonight, I would have bet that Plattsburgh would have been a double digit winner. If you told me that Plattsburgh would win the rebounding battle by a 49 to 32 margin I would have guessed that the Cardinals would have won this game by a fair margin. Instead, despite both of those stats, Plattsburgh was the double digit loser.

The game was a back and forth affair throughout most of the evening with 5 ties and 11 lead changes. The Cardinals went up early 9-4 and the Knights countered with a 14-2 run to go in front 18-11, forcing a Plattsburgh timeout. The Cards regrouped and outscored the Knights 12 -5 over the next 4 minutes to knot the score at 23 apiece with 7 minutes left in the period. The teams traded baskets for the rest of the half until Plattsburgh forged ahead by a 32-27 margin on a dunk by Eric Mack and a jumper by Eli Bryant. Justin Ringen then hit back to back 3 pointers in 29 seconds to erase that deficit and put the Knights back in front. Plattsburgh got a pair of free throws from Brandon Johnson and another dunk from the high flying Mack to go into the break up 36-33.

Plattsburgh opened the 2nd period with 3 baskets in their first 3 possessions to open up their largest lead of the game at 42-35. But once again Ringen was there with a pair of 3 pointers and when Jon Patron scored for the Cardinals, Jack Eisenberg fired up another 3 pointer for the Knights to put them in front 44-43. Zack Coleman scored on a drive for Plattsburgh for another lead change only to have Eisenberg bury another 3 ball.
John Decker would follow with a pair of fee throws and then he drained one from downtown and the Knights were up 52-47 and never trailed again. They had made five 3 pointers in 4:43 and went on to make 4 more from long range before the end of the period.

That was the story of the game. Geneseo was 12 for 26 from 3 point land (46.2%). The Cardinals were 1 for 18 (5.6%). That's a 33 point difference!!! I didn't think they could have a worse night from long range than they did in the St. Lawrence game, when they were 2x25 (8%) but they found a way. I hope those 2 games become the exception and not the rule.

The Knights placed 4 players in double figures led by Justin Ringen's 21 points (7x14 fg, 5x9 3's, 2x2 ft). He also had a game high 6 assists, with several coming from the high post to find a wide open teammate with no look passes. He added 5 rebounds and 3 steals.

John Decker had 16 points (4x10 fg, 2x4 3's, 6x6ft). He grabbed 3 boards, dished out 3 assists and had 1 steal.

Jack Eisenberg had a career high 16 points (6x10 fg, 2x4 3's, 2x2 ft), a team high 6 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Northern New York product, sophomore Jack Manke, (Ogdensburg Free Academy) had 10 points (5x7 fg) 3 rebounds, 2 blocks, and a steal.

Kevin Crockett had 8 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

Tommy Eastman had 8 points, 2 rebounds, and 1 assist in 20 minutes off the bench, while Jordi Menkhorst added 4 points, 4 boards, an assist and a block in 17 minutes off the bench.

The Cardinals were led by Eric Mack with 15 points (6x13 fg, 0x2 3's, 3x3 ft). He had 6 rebounds, 4 steals, 2 blocks and 1 assist in 24 minutes of court time off the bench.

Ian Howard had the game's only double-double with 11 points (5x8 fg, 1x2 ft) and 10 rebounds. He added 2 steals and a block.

Jon Patron scored 8 points and had a game high 14 rebounds. He had 3 assists and a block.
Zack Coleman and Chris Middleton both had 9 points and 2 rebounds.

Brandon Johnson filled up the stat sheet with 8 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and 2 steals in 22 minutes off the bench.

Eli Bryant also had 8 points, with 4 assists 1 steal and 1 rebound.

Isaiah Hill contributed 3 points, 5 rebounds, and 1 assist in 12 minutes of court time. 

The Knights shot      30x61 49.2% fg   12x26 46.2% 3's   14x18 77.8% ft
Plattsburgh shot       29x76 38.2% fg   1x18 5.6% 3's           12x17 70.6% ft

The Cardinals had the big edge in rebounding as mentioned 49-32 but lost the ball 17 times to 12 for the visitors.

Geneseo improves to 5-3 overall and 2-1 in the YAC. They travel over to Potsdam to face the Bears this afternoon at 2:00 PM.

Plattsburgh falls to 6-2 overall and is also 2-1 in the conference. The Cardinals will host first place Brockport State this afternoon at 2 PM and will look to create the possibility of a 6 way tie for first place in the conference.                           

Staten Island defeats Lehman by an 84-71 final score.

The Lightning had a first half 15 point lead at 28-13 but the Dolphins came back to get it down to a 6 point 44-38 Lehman lead at the half. The Dolphins finally caught Lehman at 48 and used a 9-2 run to go in front by a 57-50 score. With 6 minutes left to play the Dolphins had turned the tables and they were in front by double digits at 66-55. The closest the Lightning got after that was 7 points.

Week 4

Dec. 7
Bowdoin @ Bates  7:30 PM
Buena Vista @ Loras  9:00 PM
Mary Washington @ St. Mary's (Md.)  8:00 PM
North Park @ Illinois Wesleyan  8:00 PM

Dec. 8
Babson @ Amherst  7:00 PM
Louisiana College @ Centenary (La.)  8:00 PM

Staten Island @ Lehman  7:00 PM

Dec. 9  Back to SUNYAC action with 4 games on tap for this evening all starting at 5:30 PM

Fredonia State  at Oswego State        5:30 PM

The Blue Devils haven't fared too well against the Lakers in the past 10 years. They have played each other 18 times and Oswego holds a 15-3 edge in those games. The Lakers have won the last 4 but Fredonia did manage to defeat Oswego 3 years ago when the Blue Devils only won 3 games all season and the Lakers made the playoffs as the 4th seed. Fredonia will upset someone again this year, but I don't think it will be tonight. The Lakers are coming off a loss at Oneonta on Tuesday  and won't want anything resembling a losing streak on their record, at least not at this time. Oswego is favored by 11 points in this one but they haven't been winning games they should win by double digit double digit margins. I see this closer than the oddsmakers do. Oswgo State 76 Fredonia 68.

Brockport State at  Potsdam State        5:30 PM

The Bears won't get much relief this week as the Golden Eagles and then Geneseo roll into the North Country. Brockport looking to get back into the win column after an ugly loss at Hobart. The loss dumped the Eagles from the undefeated ranks and an early season battle for first place possible tomorrow with Plattsburgh, the Eagles will want to get their high octane offense back on track.

The Bears have lost 3 in a row since their lone win back on Nov. 19th, and they have all been by double digits. The oddsmakers see that trend continuing as they have made the Eagles a 15 point favorite. I hope Potsdam can keep it that close. Brockport 90 Potsdam 69.

Buffalo State  at  Cortland State        5:30 PM Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Bengals and Red Dragons both have a loss in the conference already this year so the loser of this game will fall into the 2nd division of the YAC at least temporarily. Cortland won both meetings last year by a tota of 2 points. Yeah that's not a typo. They won in Buffalo by an 84-83 margin on a last second buzzer beating 3 pointer by JP Reagan just seconds after the Bengals had taken the lead on a jumper by Nico McLean with 8 seconds left. Cortland added insult to injury when they beat the Bengals for a 2nd time by a single point in Cortland. This time the score was 63-62 and the same culprit, JP Reagan, hit 2 free throws with 5 seconds left in the game and the Bengals last ditch effort was off the mark.

The good news for the Bengals is... JP Regan won't be around to beat them this year as he graduated. The bad news is... Cortland has a host of other players that can step in and fill his shoes. The Red Dragons though, as I mentioned earlier on these pages, have been inconsistent from game to game and even half to half. They are coming off a win against New Paltz but didn't really play well against the Hawks. They will need a much better effort if they hope to get into the win column tonight.

The Bengals haven't played since last weekend when they hosted the teams from up north. They are 5-1 and with a bit of luck could be tied for the conference lead after this weekend. They could also find themselves in 8th place with a pair of losses.

After two one point games between these clubs last season the oddsmakers have made the point spread in this guessed point and Buffalo State is the favored team. I think those oddsmakers also feel that without JP Reagan the Bengals will get their turn as a walkoff winner. I don't see it that way. I don't think that Buff State will need a walk off winner tonight, I see them winning a close game though by an 86-81 final score.         

Geneseo State  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Cardinals will have their hands full tonight as the Knights invade Memorial Hall with their talented pair of All Conference players, Justin Ringen and John Decker who were 1st and 2nd team honorees last season. Decker has been on fire this year averaging over 30 points per game, having put up numbers like 32, 41, and most recently 38 points against #11 nationally Rochester University on Tuesday night. A game where the Knights almost knocked off the UAA's top team as they led 80-78 with 1:43 to play beforelosing by a final of 82-80. So we know that Geneseo can play with anybody and they have been able to do that without the usual excellent play of Decker's backcourt mate, Ringen. Ringen had a foot injury and has not been the Justin Ringen of last year that we are used to seeing. His scoring numbers are down, as well as his shooting percentages and minutes on the floor. I expect him to be at or near the Ringen we're accustomed to seeing in tonight's game, however.

Plattsburgh rebounded from their 1 loss on the season with 3 good games in a row and their defeat of Liberty League Champion, Skidmore on Tuesday night shows their ability to overcome a deficit and turn things around, even though this is a young team. The Cardinals will be relying heavily on their triumvirate of Jon Patron, (incidentally a high school teammate of Justin Ringen) Eli Bryant, and Eric Mack. Defensive specialist Zack Coleman, will have the dubious honor of defending Decker (I'm guessing here) and if he can keep him in the low 20's that will be a good job.

The Cardinals won both meetings last year and are 7-3 in the last 10 matchups. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 9 point favorite but I think it may be a bit closer than that.  Plattsburgh wins by a final score of 87-82.


My condolences. Both teams looked like they had the game won on several occasions. We didn't get shortchanged watching this one. I feel kind of guilty moving on because I was sure Amherst had lost at the end of regulation and at the end of the first OT.  McCarthy's three pointers were as clutch as they come. I was yelling at Dawson to pass the ball at the end because I knew he was going to take it to the hoop and I was afraid he would get stuffed again. Timed it just right.
End of regulation
Note to Babson Coach, up 3, 7 seconds, defending, ....let clock run down and FOUL, don't give up a relatively undefended, in stride 3 point attempt

end of 1st OT.... I don't like seeing BEST player, with 10 seconds left in tie game, with ball in his hands, waiting for clock to go down... why?  because, he'll make move, all defense will go at him, he'll give ball up, and less qualified scorer will end up taking shot.  I saw Webster lose to Wash U lose like this, and it happened to Babson.. when Flannery made the pass, the player who received it looked like he was in a state of shock.. no wonder he missed...

I didn't bother watching 2nd OT... I KNEW I was a dead duck...  Go get 'em Magic!!

They did give their 6th foul in regulation, but they did it with 7 seconds left, 80 feet from the basket.  You could've given them another two or three dribbles and still fouled without a shot attempt.  That would've prevented even getting as good a look.  Pretty small error for such a big game, though.

Hoops fan.. no I meant foul and put them on the line with a 7th foul... I'm still a believer that it is far more difficult to get the ball back for a shot after shooting 2 fts, putting you down one or two points in that situation....

I get it, but they might not have even needed to get there if they'd waited a little for the 6th.  It would've made the final shot a lot harder to set up.

You both have valid points. I've always been a believer that if you're up 3 points with seconds to go in the game you put the other team on the line. Seen the other team bury a 3 pointer to tie the game and win in overtime too often to keep track of. Only remember one instance where the team, down 3, gets fouled, goes to the line, makes the first one, misses the 2nd one (on purpose), shooter gets the rebound and scores to tie the game. And yes that was the end of the 2nd overtime of Amherst against Middlebury on 2-12-13. Amherst won in triple OT. Willy Workman was the player that pulled off that bit of magic.   

In this case Babson had to commit a 6th, then 7th foul to do so. I was pretty sure my chances of continuing to be alive in the Undefeated Pool were over and done. I fully expected, with the 3 point lead, that Babson would put Amherst on the line and there would be no way for them to score 3 points and tie the game. When they fouled for the 6th time I knew it was coming. Lightning wasn't gonna strike twice, (no Willy Workman) especially since I needed it to do so. And then they let McCarthy get his shot off.   

I mentally thanked the Babson coach for not committing that 7th foul, at least 3 times, after the game was over.   

Mr. Sager continues to confound

I'm mulling over whether or not to use this as the quote in my profile.

Once again you've given me my laugh of the day!!  :)


Good job hopefan on a great slate!!  8-)     

Quite honestly, given my retirement time, and the fun I have with D3hoops, I put significant time and research into picking the slate... the perfect slate would obviously be one where each game had a 50-50 pick distribution... several of my games were pretty lopsided with the picks, so I was a little disappointed... With my spreadsheet, I took all games from Wednesday to Saturday, regionalized them so that I had at least one game from each region, then put each team's w/l record out there... I ruled out all games where records weren't similar, narrowing the selection group... then I Masseyed the remaining games (yes, I know, Massey is less than perfect, but it is SoMETHING to use) and ruled out any game with more than a 3 or 4 point spread forecast... that narrowed down to about 25 games, then I just eyeballed and picked...  glad it worked out to a frustrating week (VERY frustrating for me!! ;D).

I knew you did most of those things, it was obvious, at least to me. I've done it that way for as long as I've been in this league. (Minus the spreadsheet. :D) As a slatemaker, the goal should be to get a 50-50 pick on each game, just as the bookies do. Unfortunately, we can't alter the point spread like they can, to make the side with the least amount of action suddenly the one to bet on or pick, in our case. I also use Massey to make sure there are no point spreads with big margins. I know there are or have been league players who made their picks straight from Massey's predictions. His percentages aren't much better than anyone else's when the game is essentially a true pick 'em.   3 points is usually where I draw the line and try to get 10 games where 1 or 2 is the spread if possible. (And some weeks it isn't) I also like games where his spread may be more than a couple of points, but I feel based on my knowledge of certain teams that he's definitely wrong. Those instances do occur from time to time.

You've certainly set the bar quite high for the Scheduler of the Week award. 8-)     

hopefan is following the time honored tradition of having a less than stellar week picking winners when you are the slatemaker. Following weeks of 8-2, 6-4 and 8-2 to put him just 1 game out of the lead entering his slatemaking week, he goes 2-4 in the first 6 selections of his schedule. The good news for him is that just about everyone else has had an equally bad week picking winners.

1 player is 0-6, 5 players are 1-5, and 3 players are 2-4. That leaves only 5 players with a .500 or better record and 3 of those 5 are 3-3. Mr. Sager continues to confound,  compiling a perfect 6-0 record when just about everyone else is slip sliding away.

hopefan's slate has a won-lost log after 6 games of 30-54 among the 14 players that picked games this week. (note pg04 made no selections and is not included). That's a winning percentage of 35.7%. That may go up somewhat after the week is completed but the best case scenario based on the picks that have been made for the remaining games, would put the won-lost log at 70-70 for a 50% winning percentage.

That may be good enough to win hopefan, the Scheduler of the Week award this year. (I'm betting that his final winning percentage, at the end of the week, will be closer to 40% than 50%). This slate of games will give future slatemakers something to shoot for, in terms of compiling a 10 game schedule that will really challenge us.

Good job hopefan on a great slate!!  8-)     

Northeast Region / Re: MBB: NESCAC
« on: December 08, 2016, 10:48:34 pm »
Great game! I'll let other Purple and White partisans hold forth and provide the extended analysis. Two terrific teams going at it. Amherst justifies its ranking after opening with a series of games against The Little Sisters of the Poor.

I'm happy that we no longer have Amherst students doing the game - instead we now we have Dudley Moore (Alistair Cooke?) providing the pay-by play. Nonetheless, a vast improvement.

A bit more than 24 hours ago we were rehashing the 104-101 (3OT) Amherst win over Middlebury in Pepin 4 seasons back Old Guy.  Now this.  You were absolutely correct, btw.  Scary how I can no longer trust what I know I remember.  (Personal aside)  Great game.  Better still that I remembered to take my BP meds today.

I may be wrong because I'm older than Vandy and my memory can have lapses at times as well, but when Joey Flannery missed the free throw on the front end of a 1&1, with 7 seconds left in regulation, then got his own rebound, and put it back in to extend the Babson lead to 81-78 I had a flashback to that Middlebury game where Willie Workman did the same thing on the back end of a 1&1 and tied the game to send it to that 3rd overtime. I thought for sure that Flannery had just made Babson a winner. Fortunately for the Purple and White, Johnny McCarthy had a little of his own magic with the 3 pointer to send it to overtime. His other 3 pointer to tie the score at 97 and put Amherst in position to win the game was pretty magical as well.

I have Amherst as my team, in the Undefeated Pool, and by winning tonight the Pool has been reduced to 3 players. I'm feeling a little better about my chances of winning, now that Babson is in the rearview mirror.

Congratulations to the Amherst players on a well played and exciting game. 8-)

And congrats to middhoops, who had his crystal ball out tonight and was in fine form. Of course he did have a Prestidigitator of the 9th order to mentor him, through the years, on the specifics of playing Amherst in LeFrak. ;D         

Pick-ems, fantasy leagues, etc. / Re: D3 Men's National Pick Em League
« on: December 08, 2016, 10:06:47 pm »
Centenary defeats Louisiana College in another close game by an 80-77 final.

Pick-ems, fantasy leagues, etc. / Re: D3 Men's National Pick Em League
« on: December 08, 2016, 09:17:40 pm »
Amherst 99 Babson 97 in double overtime.

It may be the most exciting game of the season. If you missed it, you missed a classic. 


My condolences. Both teams looked like they had the game won on several occasions. We didn't get shortchanged watching this one. I feel kind of guilty moving on because I was sure Amherst had lost at the end of regulation and at the end of the first OT.  McCarthy's three pointers were as clutch as they come. I was yelling at Dawson to pass the ball at the end because I knew he was going to take it to the hoop and I was afraid he would get stuffed again. Timed it just right.

Northeast Region / Re: MBB: NESCAC
« on: December 08, 2016, 09:05:22 pm »
Call  a heart doctor I need one. 99-97 Amherst on Jayde Dawson's drive as the clock wound down to end the game. Johnny McCarthy was huge with his key 3 pointers.

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