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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 10, 2014, 10:51:23 am »
Massey, right now, has:

1. CCIW
2. UAA
3. WIAC

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cb2015&sub=11620&c=1


That's another cool thing about the Augie/UWW and IWU/Wash U games...they involve the top 3 leagues.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 10, 2014, 08:10:27 am »
AC - WW and IWU - Wash U should tell us a lot about where the top of the CCIW is this season. 

And #16 North Central at #10 Dickinson (Friday).  I think NCC is clearly in the CCIW top 3 mix at this point - head of Elmhurst and Wheaton - and it will be interesting to see how the Cardinals do on the road against a really good team.

It's pretty rare to see three CCIW non-conference games in one week this good.  From an NCAA tournament perspective, any CCIW fan hoping their team ends up competitive for a Pool C bid, or seeded highly, should be rooting for the CCIW team in each of these games.  In considering the selection and seeding criteria, these games could all end up being significant come selection day.

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Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« on: December 09, 2014, 08:34:59 pm »
Final:

Trine 87
#6 Ohio Wesleyan 82

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 09, 2014, 07:17:10 pm »
Ouch!

Kidding, kidding! :)  I can't talk about hard-hitting topics like 3 Goggles all the time here.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 09, 2014, 04:09:55 pm »
Congratulations to IWU's Dylan Overstreet - a nominee for the Allstate Good Works Team.

http://static.psbin.com/5/8/01q6fekf39oykk/2015_Allstate_NABC__WBCA_Good_Works_Team_Nominee_Press_Release_12-3-14-Final2-.pdf

Promoting the enemy, Bob? That goes above and beyond "good works" on your part, doesn't it? ;)

It's all good, Greg.  Allstate's "rivalry" with State Farm is sort of like North Park's with Wheaton. :)

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North Region football / Re: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 09, 2014, 12:30:14 pm »
Congratulations to the CCIW players who earned D3.com All-Region awards today:


IWU:

2nd Team:
Sean Garvery, So, LB
Matt Kussmann, SR, P

I think Kussman is 1st team.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 09, 2014, 07:45:48 am »
New Top 25 - http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/index.

* Wednesday - #4 Augustana vs #1 UW-Whitewater

* Saturday - #5 Illinois Wesleyan @ #3 Washington U.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 09, 2014, 07:10:43 am »
Congratulations to IWU's Dylan Overstreet - a nominee for the Allstate Good Works Team.

http://static.psbin.com/5/8/01q6fekf39oykk/2015_Allstate_NABC__WBCA_Good_Works_Team_Nominee_Press_Release_12-3-14-Final2-.pdf

Overstreet is a model Division III student-athlete.  IWU has been really lucky to have him in the program the last 4 years.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 08, 2014, 04:37:24 pm »
Unfortunately, Bob, you and I might just have to continue to disagree on the subject of Mr. Nelson's behavior. By the way, "3 goggles" which you previously gave a long dissertation about, is not one of the motions he makes after a successful three.

http://d3photography.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/MBKB-Illinois-Wesleyan-University-vs-Calvin-College-03-14-14/G0000haWSNLtEAu8/I0000Aq9FdrOiEcY/C0000SRMxHsZRCdE/

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 08, 2014, 08:03:21 am »
You said Nelson was not suspended and Ron Rose just chose not to play him because he got off to a bad start in the 1st two games and sitting out would "help get his head in a better place." OK, this sounds like a BNP--Coach's decision.
But, in these cases, the player is still dressed and sitting on the bench. He just doesn't get in the game. It seems that if Rose had wanted to send a message and "get his head in a better place", this would have been the normal solution.

However, in cases where a player is not injured but does not even dress, some form of discipline is usually involved. Accordingly, I would venture that if it was a disciplinary situation the coach's action would more accurately be defined as a one game suspension as opposed to a DNP. 
It sounded like Nelson didn't even dress for that particular game. Thats why I took it as a suspension.
So my question is did he dress for the game Rose held him out of? If not, it really seems like a suspension rather than an unusual way of getting his head on straight.

Yes, Jordan Nelson dressed and was on the bench for the Illinois College game.  I'm not really sure where you would have gotten anything different than that.

https://twitter.com/jeo259/status/536345670958186496/photo/1

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 07, 2014, 06:32:42 pm »
Every school has pluses and minuses when it comes to recruiting, we all know that. But changing a financial aid policy can have a dramatic impact upon how a coaching staff goes about its work, and it can affect the overall tenor of an athletic department. To me, the decline of Carthage baseball, which was so dominant for so many years under both Augie Schmidt III and Augie Schmidt IV, is an even bigger indicator that things aren't what they used to be in terms of the way that that school operates with regard to recruiting. And it's a lot easier for those of us who don't follow a certain school to dismiss that school's inherent problems than it is to acknowledge them. Wheaton can only admit evangelical Christians with ACTs over 30 (or SATs over 1450), and, since the Wheaton aid package sucks, your mom and dad have to have a ton of scratch in order for you to go there? Big deal, Wheaton fans. Suck it up. North Park has to overcome the fact that it's an urban school that needs to recruit suburban kids for a lot of sports that barely exist in the city? Too bad, North Park. Carthage can't compete as well as it used to in terms of aid for suburban Chicagolanders, so now it has to compete in Wisconsin with much-cheaper WIAC schools? Tough toenails, Carthaginians.

I think that a little understanding and clarity is called for here.

I'm sure the financial aid policy is a significant factor.  For me, however, the bottom line is:

*  Carthage has two freshmen basketball players (who are both "legacies"). 

* The freshman classes at the schools that have finished in the bottom three the last four years (Elmhurst, Millikin, North Park) appear to be dramatically better than Carthage's. 

Something besides the financial aid policy has to be off here.  It just seems strange.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 07, 2014, 06:16:06 pm »
I learned recently that  a recruit post player that Carthage thought they had lined up couldn't make the finances work.  I've seen him play.  He would have been a serious difference-maker as a freshman.  He would probably have started for most teams in the CCIW.  Financial Aid is not Bosko's domain or responsibility as a coach.

I am confident that every CCIW school has its share of these guys though, Pete. 

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 07, 2014, 05:54:57 pm »
On the surface, I don't really buy the financial aid thing.  The CCIW's top schools are all very expensive and these staffs are still bringing in great recruiting classes.  You adjust to what your school's price tag and financial aid rules are, and find a way to get it done I think.

Recruiting is a 12-month, non-stop, tireless process.  Watching (from afar) what Ron Rose and his staff do every year - it's makes me tired just thinking about it.  And I know how hard Grey Giovanine and his staff hit it.  (Just to point out two top CCIW programs.)  Is Carthage out there like these two schools are?  I'm not sure. 

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 07, 2014, 05:46:01 pm »
For whatever reason, it seems like Carthage has not consistently recruited well for many seasons now.  Here are Carthage's records in the 11 seasons since the Antoine McDaniel/Rob Garnes class graduated...

2004: 7-7
2005: 8-6
2006: 6-8
2007: 7-7
2008: 7-7
2009: 7-7
2010: 12-2 (1st)
2011: 9-5
2012: 6-8
2013: 7-7
2014: 9-5

85-69 (.552), with just one CCIW title and 2 NCAA tournament wins.  The one title, and the 2 NCAA wins, were almost exclusively due to the fact that Steve Djurickovic (a player Carthage certainly did not have to recruit) ended up being one of the top 2-3 players in Division III.  (Carthage certainly had other good players on that 2009-10 team, but without Djurickovic they wouldn't have been close to CCIW contention or the NCAA tournament.)

As I look back on this stretch of years at Carthage, the Red Men just haven't consistently had good enough players.  It's been a recruiting problem in my opinion.

If you would have told me this back in about 2001-02 - when they had Wiertel, McDaniel, and Garnes - that this would happen, I would just absolutely not have believed it. 

And for the record, I am a big Bosko fan.  I think he's a strong Xs and O's coach, a consistent advocate for the CCIW, and a guy who always takes personal accountability for bad games.  I have talked to Bosko in a many a Division III gym and I think he's one of the good guys around the league and D3.  I'm just surprised how this has played out.


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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: December 06, 2014, 07:01:07 pm »
Chicago has some serious talent in the two Whitney Young guys and Waller Perez.  Really athletic and talented nucleus there.  I have to believe Chicago contends in the UAA this year.

Yeah, I also noticed they have few Seniors.   They're going to be very good next year as well.  I saw them play WPI and I thought both squads would be better next year than this.

Chicago could be a top 5 team preseason next year.  They will be loaded.

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