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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 28, 2015, 09:50:13 am »
Illinois Wesleyan (19-7, 10-4) @ Augustana (22-4, 11-3), 7:00pm...

(conference only stats)

#24-Illinois Wesleyan (19-7, 10-4)
G - Dylan Overstreet, 6-3/180 Sr. (11.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 4.2 apg)
G - Bryce Dolan, 6-0/165 Jr. (7.0 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 2.2 apg)
G - Pat Sodemann, 6-3/195 Sr. (9.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg)
F - Mike Marietti, 6-8/245 Jr. (8.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
C - Trevor Seibring, 6-8/235 So. (7.5 ppg, 5.3 rpg)

G - Jordan Nelson, 6-1/170 Sr. (12.7 ppg)
F - Ryan Coyle, 6-6/208 Jr. (5.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg)
F - Alec Bausch, 6-6/210 So. (4.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg)
G - Brady Rose, 6-2/170 Fr. (4.6 ppg)
G - Joel Pennington, 6-0/175 Jr. (4.4 ppg)

Augustana (22-4, 11-3)
G - Hunter Hill, 5-9/163 Jr. (13.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.6 apg)
G - Jawan Straughter, 6-1/175 Jr. (6.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.1 apg)
G - Griffin Pils, 6-4/213 Jr. (8.5 ppg, 3.6 rpg)
F - Tayvian Johnson, 6-6/201 Jr. (7.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
F - Ben Ryan, 6-5/209 Jr. (11.1 ppg, 6.8 rpg)

F - Nic Hoepfner, 6-6/200 Sr. (9.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg)
F - Brandon Motzel, 6-7/207 Jr. (7.5 ppg, 5.4 rpg)
G - Danielius Jurgutis, 6-0/197 Sr. (6.1 ppg)
G - Dylan Sortillo, 6-2/178 Fr. (4.6 ppg)
G - Mark Roth, 6-1/167 Sr. (1.9 ppg)


Pantagraph - http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/seibring-helps-lift-iwu-into-cciw-title-game/article_796a2078-8fd2-587b-94e0-33ecc1130a2e.html

QC Online - http://www.qconline.com/sports/college_sports/hill-s-second-half-exploits-lead-vikings-into-cciw-tourney/article_e746a37d-ea14-56ed-b661-29715748d121.html

Live video - http://portal.stretchinternet.com/augustana/

Live stats - http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/mbasketball/xlive.htm

WJBC Radio - http://portal.stretchinternet.com/wjbc/

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 26, 2015, 10:15:01 pm »
Illinois Wesleyan (18-7, 10-4) vs Elmhurst (19-6, 9-5), 5:00pm at Augustana...

(conference only stats)

Illinois Wesleyan (18-7, 10-4)
G - Dylan Overstreet, 6-3/180 Sr. (11.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 4.2 apg)
G - Bryce Dolan, 6-0/165 Jr. (7.0 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 2.2 apg)
G - Pat Sodemann, 6-3/195 Sr. (9.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg)
F - Mike Marietti, 6-8/245 Jr. (8.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
C - Trevor Seibring, 6-8/235 So. (7.5 ppg, 5.3 rpg)

G - Jordan Nelson, 6-1/170 Sr. (12.7 ppg)
F - Ryan Coyle, 6-6/208 Jr. (5.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg)
F - Alec Bausch, 6-6/210 So. (4.9 ppg, 5.0 rpg)
G - Brady Rose, 6-2/170 Fr. (4.6 ppg)
G - Joel Pennington, 6-0/175 Jr. (4.4 ppg)


Elmhurst (19-6, 9-5)
G - Pat Coleman, 6-2/190 Jr. (3.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg)
G - Kyle Wuest, 6-1/185 Jr. (16.3 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.6 apg)
G - Bryan Ackerman, 6-2/195 Jr. (11.8 ppg, 4.4 apg)
F - Brandon Schwebke, 6-4/210 Jr. (6.8 ppg, 3.8 apg)
F - Will Nixon, 6-7/210 Jr. (9.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg)

F - Erik Crittenden, 6-7/215 Jr. (10.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg)
G - Peyton Wyatt, 5-11/185 Jr. (5.0 ppg)
F - Kenny Payonk, 6-6/235 Jr. (3.0 ppg, 3.4 rpg)
G - Eric Leonard, 6-0/180 Jr. (2.5 ppg)

Pantagraph - http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/season-on-line-for-wesleyan/article_edcde035-6cbb-5327-94a9-8c38fa6d9871.html

Live video - http://portal.stretchinternet.com/augustana/

Live stats - http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/mbasketball/xlive.htm

WJBC radio - http://portal.stretchinternet.com/wjbc/

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 26, 2015, 04:15:46 pm »
Ron Rose will be on Hoopsville tonight at 7:00pm Central...

http://www.iwusports.com/news/2015/2/26/MBB_0226154019.aspx

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 24, 2015, 06:51:19 pm »
I'm happy to see Dylan Overstreet get recognized by the CCIW coaches with the co-Most Outstanding Player nod.  In Overstreet's case, stats tell some of the story (and his stats as a PG are impressive), but certainly not the whole story.  He just does a lot of things from that point guard spot to help IWU win games that don't show up in a boxscore -- including being a tremendous leader and an absolutely fierce competitor.  I'm guessing the CCIW coaches took the "intangible" stuff in mind quite a bit when voting for him as M.O.P.

As IWU's starting point guard, Overstreet's CCIW record is 35-7 (.833).  He was clearly IWU's MVP this year, and a case can easily be made that he was the last two seasons as well. 

There will certainly always be fair debates about what "most outstanding" really means, but as I see it, being a tremendous point guard who does a bunch of things to make his teammates better and help a team win games is pretty outstanding.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 23, 2015, 11:30:42 pm »
Video of the dedication of Dennie Bridges Court...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUq1c4piVgI9JBPzujyHXmIQ&v=1i8KU5ORyc8#t=102

This was very well done.  Cool to see a court full of former players...including Jack Sikma.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 21, 2015, 11:44:13 am »
Illinois Wesleyan (17-7, 9-4) vs Elmhurst (19-5, 9-4), 7:00pm...

(conference only stats)

Illinois Wesleyan (17-7, 9-4)
G - Dylan Overstreet, 6-3/180 Sr. (11.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 3.9 apg)
G - Jordan Nelson, 6-1/170 Sr. (13.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 1.7 apg)
G - Pat Sodemann, 6-3/195 Sr. (8.8 ppg, 2.6 rpg)
F - Ryan Coyle, 6-6/208 Jr. (5.9 ppg, 4.2 rpg)
C - Trevor Seibring, 6-8/235 So. (7.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg)

C - Mike Marietti, 6-8/245 Jr. (7.8ppg, 4.0 rpg)
G - Bryce Dolan, 6-0/165 Jr. (7.3 ppg, 2.2 apg)
F - Alec Bausch, 6-6/210 So. (5.2 ppg, 5.2 rpg)
G - Joel Pennington, 6-0/175 Jr. (4.5 ppg)
G - Brady Rose, 6-2/170 Fr. (3.9 ppg)

#22-Elmhurst (19-5, 9-4)
G - Pat Coleman, 6-2/190 Jr. (3.9 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.2 apg)
G - Kyle Wuest, 6-1/185 Jr. (16.8 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.6 apg)
G - Bryan Ackerman, 6-2/195 Jr. (11.6 ppg, 4.5 apg)
F - Brandon Schwebke, 6-4/210 Jr. (6.4 ppg, 3.8 apg)
F - Will Nixon, 6-7/210 Jr. (9.5 ppg, 7.4 rpg)

F - Erik Crittenden, 6-7/215 Jr. (10.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg)
G - Peyton Wyatt, 5-11/185 Jr. (4.9 ppg)
F - Kenny Payonk, 6-6/235 Jr. (3.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg)
G - Eric Leonard, 6-0/180 Jr. (2.8 ppg)

Pantagraph (game) - http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/busy-titans-face-elmhurst/article_0008a9ca-5165-54b8-aed3-e05dd323d518.html

Pantagraph (Bridges) - http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/iwu-to-dedicate-dennie-bridges-court-at-halftime-of-game/article_ddda32a0-810b-554e-aaf5-a3c3291a6789.html

Live video/stats - http://portal.stretchinternet.com/iwu/

WJBC Radio - http://portal.stretchinternet.com/wjbc/

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 19, 2015, 10:50:09 am »
Nice article on Dylan Overstreet - http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/overstreet-at-point-of-iwu-basketball-success/article_7ebbecf5-03c9-5193-94ae-c3080c5f5dfb.html.

Very quietly, Overstreet has become one of the best IWU point guards in the 25 years I've been following the Titans. He's certainly not a "pure point guard", but he's just done a fantastic job making everything run for IWU the last 3 years as a starter.  He's helped lead IWU to two conference titles (13-1, 12-2), two Sweet 16s, and a Final Four.

When I talk to Ron Rose about Overstreet, he always comes back to his leadership ability - just can't say enough great things about Dylan's ability to lead.  When Andy Stempel was on the WJBC postgame after the NCC game recently he said Overstreet is "the best leader I've ever been around."

IWU has been really lucky to have Dylan Overstreet in the program for 4 years.  Just a great kid on and off the court.  He is on my personal "favorite Titans of all time" short list.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 17, 2015, 03:35:34 pm »
Fair question:  Stemple - FG% 56.5%, 3pt FG 50%, Asst/Turnover Ratio .78;  Rose - FG% 37.9%, 3pt FG 34.2%, Asst/Turn 1.80.  Stemple wins the offensive stats decisively.  Which further begs the question, what is with the coaching choices to bring up Brady so quickly to varsity and displace Stemple?  There are no objective measures to drive Rose's playing time.  This will create an issue with existing players, and seriously hamper the next 2 years of recruiting for guards.  Playing Rose was not an objective decision; it was because of subjective influences.  The numbers do not support the playing time Rose received.

Brady Rose and Andy Stempel are different players.  Rose is a combo guard who handles it well, and someone who can guard a quick 1 or 2.  Stempel, who also has a high upside, is a bigger wing player who basically plays the 3 on both offense and defense (not a kid who is going to defend a quick 1/2).  This isn't like deciding who to play between Brady Rose and Jordan Nelson, who are basically the same type of player.  (In IWU's rotation, Rose comes in when Nelson leaves.)

Your suggestion that Ron Rose is playing Brady because he's his son is pretty unfair.  If you are honest with yourself, you'll admit you have absolutely no idea what went into Rose's decision to settle on Brady in the rotation.  In reality, it's no different than past decisions to play, say, Matt Schick...or Stephen Rudnicki...or Mike Mayberger (instead of other options).  And those guys weren't related to IWU's head coach. The head coach has to make really tough decisions on which players to put on the floor, in which roles, to maximize chances to win.  I'm 100% sure that Ron Rose wants to win CCIW titles and make the NCAA tournament a lot more than he wants to see his son on the floor.   

By the way, Brady didn't play in IWU's first two games.  He first played in game 3, when Jordan Nelson was out.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 16, 2015, 03:17:18 pm »
(For the #1 rebounding team to be outrebounded badly by the #8 team is a total team disgrace.) 

I don't think the Titans were the CCIW's #1 rebounding team before that NPU game, were they?  IWU has been a so-so at best rebounding team all season long as far as I've seen.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 16, 2015, 01:25:30 pm »
Dennie Bridges Court will be dedicated Saturday...

http://www.iwusports.com/news/2015/2/16/MBB_0216150336.aspx

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 15, 2015, 10:01:56 am »
Ron Rose postgame on WJBC...

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=711&c=3911&f=4003493


The roller coaster of emotions that a college basketball coach must go through.  You can hear the sting in last night's loss in Rose's voice.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 15, 2015, 09:38:19 am »
Greg, you did a great job on the call last night.  You give the time and score consistently - the late Art Kimball, my dear friend, would appreciate that.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 15, 2015, 09:25:03 am »
Interesting to see what is happening to this team.  Over the course of the conference season, offense goes missing and match ups with other teams strengths are not properly managed.  IWU's is short on big men and way, way, way too deep on guards.  In fact we are so deep on guards, one has to question whether we are not playing players who need to play and who need to be developed.  Another question which increasingly needs to be answered, why is Brady Rose playing so many minutes - and not producing on a points per minute stat - and Stemple is not playing.  Stemple is in a few games ago and scores 11 in a very short span.  Stemple plays last year and produces, yet now it's all Brady Rose.  What is driving the playing time decisions?  What impact does Ron Rose's decision to play his son so much have on the psyche and opinion of the other players on the team?  This team has now underperformed in two key games in a row.  I know that Ron is beloved by the IWU community, but suddenly the decision making appears to be biased, and not in the best interests of the team.  The judgement related to his own son, and motivation of players, and game strategy, now all seem to be sliding downwards.  Why are we so incredibly deep in guards for the class of '16, '17, '18?  Where are the big men to replace Victor and Z?  Why so many guards (1's, 2's, 3's) and no big men?  How can we develop this many guards and maintain a leading D3 team?  I'm not seeing it, and the beginning of a slide may be at hand.  Welcome the thoughts of others, but the awful loss to Augie at home and NPU on the road in key contests suggests otherwise.

Interest post.  Regarding IWU, a very clear issues:  1) Ron Rose has already cast aside recruits to be replaced by his son, regardless fo their skills or commitment.  2) IWU is dearly lacking bigs.  A huge deficit!  And on that will not change in the next 4 years.  3) Ron's reputation is that as a coach who 'hoards' players.  Case in point, his roster of 29 players is far larger than any other CCIW school from what I see.  Carthage, NPU, NCC... all have around 19-20 players on roster.  Hoarding will begin to affect recruitment.  Why would a recruit go to IWU when they see other very good players get shoved down the depth chart or off the playing time list completely.  A growing issue for IWU...

Ron Rose has a solid track record of recruiting the right mix of players and putting the right pieces together the floor.  Here are some numbers from the time the members of his first recruiting class (Sean Johnson, Doug Sexauer, Travis Rosenkranz, etc) were juniors...

(2009-10 through 2014-15 so far...last 6 seasons)

Total Wins
Illinois Wesleyan: 133
Augustana: 121
Wheaton: 113
North Central: 108

CCIW Wins
Illinois Wesleyan: 63
Augustana: 56
Wheaton: 54
North Central: 53

NCAA Tournament Wins (last 5 completed seasons)
Illinois Wesleyan: 14
North Central: 6
Wheaton: 6
Augustana: 4
Carthage: 2


In an absolutely fantastic league with amazing coaches, Ron Rose has done a really nice job.  IWU has certainly had a couple rough games in a row now (games where the other team has played incredibly well I might add), but I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense to all of the sudden question Rose's recruiting philosophy or overall judgment regarding personnel and playing time.  That seems overly reactionary and panicky.

As far as big guys, sometimes you don't get all of the guys you want.  Over the last few years, IWU came very close on a bunch of 4s and 5s who are now on scholarship school rosters.  You do your best to recruit great players, and when the season starts you play the guys you have.  Relative to other 2014-15 CCIW rotations, I think IWU's post group of Ryan Coyle (Jr), Trevor Seibring (So), Mike Marietti (Jr), and Alec Bausch (So) actually stacks up extremely well.  I'm also very excited about the potential of several of the current freshmen posts.

As far as playing Brady Rose, IWU needed to get from 11 players down to 10 when CCIW play started...11 is just one too many, even for a deep team.  That decision seems to have come down to Rose vs Stempel...tough call, as both kids have nice upsides and are talented.  I can tell you, based on conversations I've had with Ron Rose this season, that he is naturally inclined to not play Brady...because of perceptions.  I know that for him to have made that decision that he truly believes that Brady is the right guy to have on the floor.  It's not because he's his son - I do know that for sure. 

As far as "hoarding" players, this is Division III where kids choose to go to school where they want to go to school.  IWU has several kids on the current roster who were told by Ron Rose (something like), "There are a lot of other guys ahead of you at your position...you need to know that coming in...you might not play here."  (And a lot of kids who've heard this have chosen to go elsewhere.)  IWU's 2014-15 roster, like most D3 rosters, is a collection of kids who were recruited strongly by Ron Rose and his staff, and others who were not.  The kids who were heavily recruited almost always end up being the guys on the floor as juniors and seniors.

Questioning the coach when things aren't going well is part of sports, so I get it - it's all good.  But again, looking at the big picture, Ron Rose has done really well at IWU for several years now and has probably built up a little equity to get through a bad stretch...or even a bad season.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 14, 2015, 10:55:01 pm »
So its North Park at North Central for the fourth tournament spot?

Yes.

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Central Region / Re: MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 14, 2015, 10:18:20 pm »
North Park played great tonight.  The shorter Vikings out-rebounded IWU 42-27, and freshman Jordan Robinson was just a force (28 points, 8 rebounds).

IWU's only bright spot, really, was Bryce Dolan who connected on 7 of 9 3-point attempts and finished with 23 points.

Very tough loss for the Titans, who not only fall a game behind Augustana in the title race, but probably fall out of the Pool C picture now.  IWU will most likely have to win the CCIW tournament if they want to advance to the NCAA tournament for the 6th consecutive season.

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