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With that being said I wonder if people will eventually gravitate more towards public schools? Just because getting in debt via a private school education won't get you any further in life than if you attended a public school for a 1/3 of the cost. My wife and I both attended UWW, and both are doing well for ourselves. I'm not sure how much more my live would be better if I attended Carroll or Carthage college.


How much more can they gravitate toward public schools? There are almost 14 million kids in public universities right now as opposed to only 2.75 million in private non-profits There are another 1.75 million in private for profit schools, but that's where I find the real rip off to be and those numbers have dipped dramatically recently after increasing exponentially until about 2010. Public university enrollment is up 40% since about 2000, private non profit about 10-15% over the same period.

Costs (as a percentage of previous costs) for public universities are increasing faster than costs at private non-profits since the recession started in 2008. So while the absolute costs of the private non-profits are still going up faster starting from a much higher base, it's not by much anymore. Most projections have it flipping over soon and year over year increases will be greater at public than private non-profits as we continue to defund the public universities with public funds.

I think the entire scheme of higher education is going to change over the next 20 years, so I wonder in 100 years how many of these fine old institutions will still be standing in their current boarding school format. I'm thinking not many, as these schools with minimal endowment and no public support are going to be too expensive and provide too little benefit to survive and transition to a new model.

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: August 25, 2015, 04:27:12 pm »
Log and read online. It would be about 400 pages I think if printed. Huge amount of information. Similar format to d3football.com site, just the content for Kickoff is protected until you pay. Well worth the $11.

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: August 25, 2015, 03:54:22 pm »
I took the link today to sign up, entered my email, but was never asked to enter a password.  Thinking I must have done something wrong, I signed up again --- still no spot noticed to enter a password.  I tried the password to D3sports.com, but can't get in.  Someone else know how this is supposed to work?

Guess I'll have to contact the credit card company to cancel one of the transactions.

I think your password gets emailed to you and then you can change it after the first time you log in. If you've bought it in the past, then your old password stays active.

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South Region football / Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: August 25, 2015, 01:31:12 pm »
I know we talked about this extensively last year, but good Lord Methodist. 224 players reporting to camp? 130, 150, 155 seems pretty normal for USAC teams these days. I saw NCWC had 190 and almost fell out of my chair.

224. That's literally enough for 10 strings.

Got to keep the college lights on apparently. I can imagine after a few days of practice the coaches have narrowed down anyone with promise and the others just get limped along until they quit. There is no way you can have a coaching staff with the ability to work with all those kids. Not enough money for enough coaches.

159 freshman.  28 sophomores. 25 juniors. 12 seniors. Kids learn quick when they've been sold a bill of goods about their odds of playing...

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: August 25, 2015, 10:00:39 am »
Just a reminder for the ODAC folks, Kickoff drops today. Get your orders in and enjoy the reading. Best place for full coverage of DIII football. Pretty much the only place to be honest. That doesn't make it any less enjoyable. Sales help support this site and the D3 football site, so it's good for you in multiple ways!

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: August 22, 2015, 07:09:33 am »
Even worse from a price standpoint!

Considering how much Wesley must be saving on travel now that they joined a conference, one flight probably isn't so bad. I wonder if they will channel the savings into some facility upgrades.

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Men's soccer / Re: NESCAC
« on: August 20, 2015, 11:59:44 am »
Hey lads,

Quick question for the NESCAC fans here before the preseason begins. I was watching an English U17 Academy game the other day and it got me thinking - Would a NESCAC all star team beat a U16/U17/U18 English Academy team? Curious and excited to hear some thoughts on this topic.

I'm thinking the Academy kids would have more skill, but the age and development difference would be too great. On the other hand, if you played with 3 subs instead of NCAA rules, it's possible the college kids would drop before the Academy kids... However, if you took one of the under 21 Academy teams I think they steamroll D1 teams.

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North Region football / Re: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: August 20, 2015, 11:01:30 am »
Two things on that map stick out. It's a long way from La College to Sul Ross State, which I knew, and the UMAC is really inconvenient, which I didn't. Greenville to St. Scholastica is a pretty awful road trip, especially at the end of the season. Two of the longest road trips disappeared in the last few years, with Mississippi College to Sul Ross State ending and Huntingdon to CNU wrapping up after just a few years.

Belhaven comes into that league this year and Belhaven to Sul Ross is just as far.

That is a truly appalling road trip. In a bus that's got to be 14 or 15 hours plus stops. I pity those coaches. The players probably only do it once or twice, the coaches have it every other year for their tenure. Sul Ross State is just in a bear of a spot. I can't imagine how many hours those guys spend on buses every season.

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North Region football / Re: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: August 20, 2015, 09:50:12 am »
Two things on that map stick out. It's a long way from La College to Sul Ross State, which I knew, and the UMAC is really inconvenient, which I didn't. Greenville to St. Scholastica is a pretty awful road trip, especially at the end of the season. Two of the longest road trips disappeared in the last few years, with Mississippi College to Sul Ross State ending and Huntingdon to CNU wrapping up after just a few years.

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: August 20, 2015, 08:57:48 am »
Here's the thing. I'm not surprised the ODAC plays a lot of USASC teams. That just makes good geographic sense. What does surprise and irritate me is the way the ODAC consistently plays the bottom USASC teams. I know schedules are hard to do a few years out, but Averett and Greensboro, who both have filled their OOC with ODAC teams, haven't been good for quite a while and they are jammed up with the ODAC year after year. Ferrum has been up and down, but mostly down, Methodist almost all down except 2012 and 2013. So the ODAC is consistently scheduling the bottom or no better than the middle. The better USASC teams have generally been passed over, or only been played once, like Maryville and E&H or HSC and CNU, or HSC and Huntingdon (long ride that, so I understand this one, same with LaGrange, although their short tenure has been mostly middle or down).

And, while I appreciate what Apprentice does, Bridgewater and W&L should have either been desperate to schedule them, or shame on them...

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: August 19, 2015, 08:31:53 am »
Hey, I agree with all of you.  I think Guilford's in a scheduling rut.  I only mentioned Linfield because I once visited there on a trip to Oregon, Wabash because HSC is playing them, Oberlin because I once saw an article comparing the two schools and Rhodes because my nephew was recruited by them.  In my memory, we have played Salisbury and Maryville, but not in a while.  Never played CNU or NCWC or LaGrange or Huntingdon or any school in PA of which I'm aware.

At least from my POV I'm not picking on Guilford Hasa. With the exception of 4 games, HSC playing Wabash and CNU, RMC playing JHU, and E&H playing M'Ville, the other 20 non-conf games throughout the league are underwhelming at best. It just seems like we're picking on Guilford because theirs is pretty bad and they stand a good shot at being the ODAC rep this year. When on top of the mountain, expect the shots, right? Thick skin time for the Quakers!

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: August 18, 2015, 04:05:58 pm »
Isn't it also just generally a lot harder to schedule an our of conference game in November?

You wouldn't. But the point is you might get them first round of the playoffs. Winning a top tier game early boosts your cred that season. Winning one late, or being entertainingly competitive ala HSC in 2013, boosts your cred for the next season. Playing three weak OOC games early and losing a first round playoff game badly does nothing for anyone, ala most of the ODAC champions since the AQ started and the likely fate of the Quakers, E&H, or B'water if they win the ODAC this year. The ODAC does its reputation no benefit outside HSC's OOC schedule and RMC's recent series with JHU and the occasional other match up like W&L vs Centre last year.

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Men's soccer / Re: Messiah....Super Duper Excited Bro!
« on: August 16, 2015, 08:52:52 pm »
I certainly have no inside information but perhaps this is not a big deal but just a young man trying to distance himself from his father's very long shadow.  Seems sort of healthy to me.  As for the over sized ego question, well that is an issue we all have to deal with I guess.

Wow. A well thought out and polite response to a troll question. What are you doing on a message board?  +k

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North Region football / Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: August 14, 2015, 10:06:36 am »
They didn't have a lot of great draws at home last year, either. Sewanee, Kenyon, Denison, Ohio Wesleyan, Hiram.

That could matter since 2013 lists them as averaging 2896 fans per game. Witt 3468, Oberlin 2003, Alleghany 515, Wooster 624, Wabash 7872. So clearly the Bell Game makes a huge difference, but even without that they averaged 1650 per game, which is pretty respectable.

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North Region football / Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: August 14, 2015, 09:30:52 am »
These are DePauw's home attendance figures from 2014:
750
1492
1010
475
575

Rough....   I am with many on the board that believe that Depauw is going to be significantly more competitive this year.   I believe 11/14 could finally be much more of a battle.... than the previous six.   Hope their fans wake up and turnout.

Come on now, let’s not kid ourselves… this is division 3.
Yes, at first glance they seem low, but I would guess that these attendance figures are pretty similar to most schools, especially ones who have had several down years in a row.

Maybe. But according to the NCAA the average for DIII is around 1900.
See link here: http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2014.pdf

Even if you accept 25% over counting you are still looking around 1400 average. The only conferences that averaged less than 1000 per game were the UMAC and the NACC. The NCAC averages 2000. The NCAA lists DePauw's average at 860, which is better than Hiram but near the bottom of the NCAC. Even Alleghany and Kenyon average higher, and Kenyon has had more than a few down years. DePauw falls in the bottom 30 teams, or the lowest 10% of Division III. So either they count more accurately, since I think a lot of these numbers are inflated, or the fans are really apathetic.

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