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Then is it fair to say that John Carroll (and the strength of the OAC) was a little exposed last season in the playoffs by SJF? As well as the year before that when Heidelberg lost in the first round to Wittenberg. Both of which were first-round home games for the OAC.
I mean really, when's the last time anyone from the OAC was any good?

Outside Mount....It's tough to make an argument for anyone

2006 Capital. 11-2, 8-1. Lost to Mount both times. Beat Witt and NCC handily in the playoffs before losing by 3 at National Champion Mount. Mount proceeded to roll both SJF and UWW on their way to the Walnut and Bronze. That 3 point home win was the only game all season a team finished within 12 pts of Mount. So yeah, it's been 7 years since the OAC runner-up made any appreciable noise.

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: August 26, 2014, 10:56:15 am »
somewhere there is a countdown clock to when I can start reading Kickoff. Knowing it is probably today isn't helping. I need to keep track of the second hand. Feeling pressure to start getting my pick'ems and South Region Fan Poll thoughts organized.

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: August 26, 2014, 10:23:15 am »
Nance look comfortable behind retooled OL. 

It's easy to be comfortable going against a defense that isn't trying to get you.   :)

That's certainly not the case with Dodson's defense.  This is the best defense I've seen since 2003.  If the Tigers lose a game during the regular season, I'd be willing to bet that it's not going to be because of sloppy defense.

Yeah, I'm still thinking "don't injure the QB" was a pretty big commandment during a preseason intra-squad scrimmage. I expect them to be a pretty good defense, but I think it's very reasonable to assume they weren't  pushing 100% to get to Nance. And I think that is 100% reasonable.

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Is there a deeper D3 conference in the nation than the MIAC right now?

As someone out of conference and out of region I can't honestly think of one. The MIAC is a hard road right now. I don't think the WIAC is too far behind, but those two conferences seem, top to bottom, quite a bit ahead of anyone else.

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South Region football / Re: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: August 25, 2014, 03:29:46 pm »
I do think you were overestimating the salary costs based on the numbers provided in the story, but I don't disagree that it seems rushed and doomed to fail.
i wasn't really estimating at all...i was doing the math provided in the story

40 players per team x $1,000 per week x 4 teams x 8 weeks = $1,280,000

40 players per team x $1,250 per week x 4 teams x 8 weeks = $1,600,000

I actually under-stated salaries :)

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Each team will have 40 players, with between six and eight coaches per franchise. As part of their eight-week contracts, coaches must agree to avoid exotic schemes and use a traditional approach to maximize players' NFL preparedness...Players will earn between $1,000 and $1,250 per week.

Yeah. Just a mixed message. I was thinking salary per team, not per league.

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I am going to consider WVU to be a "major power" if they beat Alabama this weekend.

Then, if WVU loses to Towson the following week, I will then consider SJU to be the greater "power."   

Not likely, but certainly possible.  Stranger things have happened.  ;D

If they beat Alabama this weekend I'll be hard pressed not to smile and laugh around the office. A dangerous act that would make me increasingly likely to suffer a lot of abuse...

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South Region football / Re: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: August 25, 2014, 02:27:58 pm »
until the nfl gets behind a developmental league, i'm not buying stock in one...

100% agree with this. And I only linked to it because it was timely in the discussion, not because I think it will succeed. I do think you were overestimating the salary costs based on the numbers provided in the story, but I don't disagree that it seems rushed and doomed to fail.

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Men's soccer / Re: Messiah -- D1?
« on: August 25, 2014, 01:44:54 pm »
I'm not a big wikipedia fan, but this has a surprisingly good explanation that I could find on short notice:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_III_%28NCAA%29

See the section on DIII schools with DI programs about 1/4 of the way down the page. I know that no scholarship athlete can cross over. So if you go to Johns Hopkins to play lacrosse you can't also play football, I believe that is regardless of whether you are on scholarship for lacrosse.

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Trivia question of the day.

What former DIII football team, defeated by St. Johns, is playing a DI major power this season?

Minor hint.  John Gagliardi was the coach.


Towson State (1976 Stagg Bowl) playing West Virginia.

Correct.  Congratulations, ROR!

Go Johnnies, and Goooooooo Mountaineers!
People down here in AL aren't treating West Virginia as a DI major power and with good reason. They play in a power conference but have gone 4-8 and 7-6 in the last two years. Two of those wins last year were against FCS schools and one in 2012. So they are 8-14 against FBS schools in the last two years. Major power? Not recently. Or at least not recently by any reasonable contemplation of their results.
There are 1000 college football teams.  There can be more than 5 "major powers".

Of course there are. There are 5 major power conferences, not every school in those conferences is a "major power". Especially at the same time. That would be ridiculous. Unless you wish to mash all 1000 schools together, then all of D1 is going to look like a major power to D3, but certainly not to each other. Current major powers include Alabama, LSU, Auburn, FSU, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan State, Oregon, UCLA... heck, anyone reasonably in the Top 25 is a "major power". West Virginia doesn't qualify right now...

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Men's soccer / Re: Messiah -- D1?
« on: August 25, 2014, 12:51:14 pm »
Maybe this has been covered, but is it true that Messiah would have to be D1 in all sports???

Hopkins is D1 for lacrosse only, Union and a few others for ice hockey only, etc.

See page 1, second post...

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Trivia question of the day.

What former DIII football team, defeated by St. Johns, is playing a DI major power this season?

Minor hint.  John Gagliardi was the coach.

People down here in AL aren't treating West Virginia as a DI major power and with good reason. They play in a power conference but have gone 4-8 and 7-6 in the last two years. Two of those wins last year were against FCS schools and one in 2012. So they are 8-14 against FBS schools in the last two years. Major power? Not recently. Or at least not recently by any reasonable contemplation of their results.

Towson State (1976 Stagg Bowl) playing West Virginia.

Correct.  Congratulations, ROR!

Go Johnnies, and Goooooooo Mountaineers!

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South Region football / Re: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: August 25, 2014, 11:09:29 am »
I spoke with a young man a couple days ago and he mentioned that he thought Oscar Smith could beat majority of Division III programs, including CNU. I told that young man that he was crazy and that Oscar Smith needs to find a way to win its own Division VI State High School championship and focus on Booker T. Washington. After reading the paper of that Booker T. Washington game, it is safe to say that Oscar Smith has a lot of work to do before people can start saying that they can beat a program such as CNU or any Division III program. Again, this is my strong opinion of course. How do you guys feel about some top High Schools fans saying that their high school team can beat majority of Division III programs?

This comes up every now and then. It's a joke. Almost every starter on decent D3 football program was a recognized all league player for their h.s. as an upperclassmen. Might have been 3rd team all county, but you get the point. Then they went to college and continued to grow, work out in the weight room, mature, and learn more football skills. Other than the worst couple teams in D3 versus the best couple h.s. teams in the country, those h.s. teams are going to lose physical battles all over the field. They might have individuals good enough and strong enough to play the game, but not a whole three phases worth. Especially in places like special teams. High school teams use a lot of underclassmen in those positions because they have to. A decent college team is going to be using underclassmen in those positions who were some of the best players on h.s. teams as upperclassmen. Basic logic tells you what is going to happen...

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South Region football / Re: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: August 22, 2014, 02:47:21 pm »
Because we were just briefly discussing this, check out this article I came across today. Hadn't heard anything about it until I read this article.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/136649/inside-slant-developmental-league-emerges

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South Region football / Re: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: August 21, 2014, 08:48:58 am »
No the CFL is not a development league. It's more of a cast-off league. Plus NFL teams can't farm out guys they like but need development to a CFL team. There is no loan program like in European soccer. If someone is playing in the CFL they are essentially an NFL free agent (though their ability to move depends on their CFL contract).

As for it being a minor league, I can't imagine why people wouldn't go see it like they see A/AA/AAA baseball games. Why should one being a minor league matter and one not? The minor league baseball games are very creative in their marketing, I'd imagine NFL minor league teams would be as well. They'd also have the advantage depending on how you structured the season of not playing directly against the major league teams at times. You can't tell me teams in places like Memphis, Oklahoma City, Las Vegas, Portland, Sacramento, Providence RI wouldn't draw fans, especially not playing up against Sunday pro or Saturday college games.

Again, you aren't looking to fill 60,000 seat stadiums, you are looking for mainly 10-15K for a dozen Tuesday/Wednesday  night games played every other week from early July to end of November. Since it would be a true minor league there would be a "future stars" aspect to it and you'd have to imagine a lot of the fringe players would be local former University standouts who would otherwise have been NFL free agent camp fodder. That would keep local interest.

You could remove the h.s. draft provision though I don't know why you would. Football requires more mature bodies and you wouldn't want to antagonize the D1 schools that much. It would require a lot of start up capital, but I think it could at least break even and provide the NFL with a better final product. Fox Sports, NBCSports, ESPN45 or whatever they are up to, would absolutely pay to put more football on TV during the doldrum months.

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South Region football / Re: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: August 20, 2014, 04:48:31 pm »

As a side note, the NFL agreed to expand the practice squad by 2 players per team.  I'm happy to see this but wish it would've been even more.  I think NFL teams should have much bigger rosters than they do (maybe a 50-man active roster, which allows a full 2-deep to be dressed on gameday plus a handful of specialists (K/P/LS) and a few extra WR's or DB's, and then a 15-man practice squad).  The bigger practice squad would allow for better development of young players and result in fewer situations where a team is signing a guy in the middle of a playoff run who wasn't even on the roster in September and then starting him the next Sunday because they're desperately short at Position X.

Yeah, but this would cost the billionaire owners more money and would take away some of the story lines and intrigues that the game thrives on week to week. I think the NFL should have a complete farm system. If ever there was a sport that needed a true, if small, farm system it is football. One team per NFL team, exclusive players signed to that team. Imagine how much better the product would be if you could actually develop players for a year or two. Maybe not running backs with short lifespans, but qbs, linemen, and defenders. A drafted receiver most likely doesn't come into his own in the NFL until year 3. Gee, how much better a product would we have if you actually could take years 1 and 2 into a developmental league?

Ridiculous considering the amount of money spend. You can't tell me that if you ran a developmental league from late spring to mid fall that it wouldn't work? People would rather watch baseball? No way. Lots of cities that would kill for it and it would be perfect in 20-40,000 seat stadiums. College football might not like it, but you could stay away from a few key cities and be just fine. Especially if you did mid-week games. Tuesday and Wednesday nights or something like that. You'd have limited sports competition in the summer, MLB and MLS?, and while there is competition in the fall by then the season would be wrapping up.

Sure you couldn't have the guys in your pre-season camp, but they'd be in mid-season form when the NFL teams opened. If the minor league teams had the same philosophy as the NFL teams it would work fine. I think the NFL is stupid for not having done this years ago, but since they have a very weak, but completely free, farm system in D1, that probably trumps investing the start up costs.

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