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South Region football / Re: American Southwest Conference
« on: March 05, 2014, 12:48:45 pm »
Since when does Division III give scholarships for football... This could get intresting.

Most likely it is simply a small town reporter doing a poor job with the facts.

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North Region football / Re: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: March 05, 2014, 10:17:07 am »
When newbies join the boards, or when particularly stubborn people resurface, you have to go over it again. Unless you just shrug and leave them to their delusions. It's really hard to change most people's minds with logic when they truly BELIEVE something.
I went to all that trouble to, respectfully, keep your name out of my previous post and like magic, you appear! LOL + karma.  Just shrugging it off would be easier but not nearly as much fun though, especially in the dead of winter/off season.   :)

Sorry, too busy laughing at the people down here in Alabama trying to justify Nick Saban wanting college football to completely change its rules to benefit him. There is only so much football ridiculousness I can get involved in during the off season!

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North Region football / Re: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: March 05, 2014, 10:12:43 am »
When newbies join the boards, or when particularly stubborn people resurface, you have to go over it again. Unless you just shrug and leave them to their delusions. It's really hard to change most people's minds with logic when they truly BELIEVE something.

Tailgate and PurpleSuit could benefit from some useful advice from their fellow Mount friends jknezek, Dr. Acula, HScoach...among others.

Not much of a Mount friend. As an ODAC guy there just isn't much on the national scene for me. Certainly I am an admirer of Mount's program, how could you not? But I'd love to see them taken down a few pegs just because, like most Americans, I prefer underdogs when my team isn't the favorite. To be fair, I feel the same way about UWW...

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North Region football / Re: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: March 05, 2014, 08:42:08 am »
When newbies join the boards, or when particularly stubborn people resurface, you have to go over it again. Unless you just shrug and leave them to their delusions. It's really hard to change most people's minds with logic when they truly BELIEVE something.

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East Region football / Re: Empire 8
« on: March 03, 2014, 10:30:40 pm »
I'm not sure it's all that much about strengthening the conference, though it is a good byproduct that they can play up. For the NJAC, it's about maintaining the AQ. For the E8 it's about maintaining the AQ while creating a better situation for the members. I really think the E8 got the better end of the deal, marginally, by becoming so much more geographically compact while maintaining the competitiveness. That was a good trick and it really makes for a fabulous conference.

The NJAC, as it has since the AQ was initiated, just had to scramble for members. Luckily it worked out, and adding Wesley and Salisbury is very good, adding CNU is a nice bonus as well. SVA is a bit of a lame duck, but probably not much farther than CNU. Still, it's not quite as nice a situation as the E8 worked themselves into.

Congratulations are due all around for making a move that is so incredibly sensible.

The story on the front page mentions the improved budget situations for teams, now that they don't have to travel to MD. No small thing when you have 100+ people traveling in some situations.


Yep. That is exactly what I meant by "better situation!"

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East Region football / Re: Empire 8
« on: March 03, 2014, 04:46:49 pm »
I'm not sure it's all that much about strengthening the conference, though it is a good byproduct that they can play up. For the NJAC, it's about maintaining the AQ. For the E8 it's about maintaining the AQ while creating a better situation for the members. I really think the E8 got the better end of the deal, marginally, by becoming so much more geographically compact while maintaining the competitiveness. That was a good trick and it really makes for a fabulous conference.

The NJAC, as it has since the AQ was initiated, just had to scramble for members. Luckily it worked out, and adding Wesley and Salisbury is very good, adding CNU is a nice bonus as well. SVA is a bit of a lame duck, but probably not much farther than CNU. Still, it's not quite as nice a situation as the E8 worked themselves into.

Congratulations are due all around for making a move that is so incredibly sensible.

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East Region football / Re: Empire 8
« on: March 03, 2014, 04:23:41 pm »
What am I "seeing" in these other conferences that's supposed to be similar to the LL?

The WIAC was so good last year that one of its teams finished in the Top 15 and missed the playoffs.

Hardin-Baylor plays Wesley and Trinity in the regular season.

The OAC gets a 2nd team in the playoffs frequently and Mount's OOC opponent in the last two years, Franklin, finished in the Top 25 both seasons.

Linfield schedules tough teams like Cal Lutheran and has to fill out a schedule playing in a state with three other D-III schools.

JHU has one OOC game a season, and three of the last four seasons, has played a 7 win Randolph-Macon team.

Hobart plays in a weak, one-bid conference, doesn't schedule ambitiously OOC, and trots out 8- and 9-game schedules despite the fact that there are like 16 D-III teams in New York alone. The dominance is not the issue, the scheduling is. So your comparisons make little sense to me, since Hobart is in no way similar to any of those schools you've mentioned.

My point, however, is not that this irritates me (though it does), but that maybe the LL teams are better positioned than E8/NJAC teams going forward. If everything is going to Pool A, why not play in a weak 6-team conference rather than the NJAC or E8?

I wasn't overly concerned about Hobart's OOC schedule. They are in a Pool A conference, so OOC doesn't matter if they win their conference. Their recent dominance of their conference, and therefore the ongoing presence in the tournament, is similar to many other schools that dominate a single conference. You do make good points in that they aren't particularly challenging OOC, but that doesn't really mean anything for actually making the tournament.

And yes, being a strong team in a weak AQ conference is an advantage to getting into the tournament versus a competitve conference. I 100% agree. But the fact that it isn't fair isn't going to change. However, you'd have to play in a weak 7 team conference, not 6. Yes the E8, NJAC and more than a few other conferences are better than the LL. But there just isn't anything to be done and I'll reaffirm that the system we have now, even if it rewards Hobart the same way it rewards the E8 champion with a tournment bid, is better than what we had before 1999.

I'm always telling my 4 year old that "life isn't fair." This is just another one of those instances.

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No one has mentioned what I find most interesting about this. Now all 4 "regions" such as they are, have a power team. UWW in the West, Wesley in the East, UMU in the North and UMHB in the South. The North and West also have supplemental teams like Linfield and North Central and whoever wins the MIAC, an area where the South and East will still have some catching up. However, I could see the top 4 being more regional again after this shuffling. Of course, since the tourney has gone less regional for the top seeds its been more fair in my opinion, but this allows for the possibility of Regional 1 seeds and still maintaining that "fairness".

I think historically this supplemental thing would be correct, but as the playoffs has become less regional, especially in the second round. I would say the East has some very good teams that can hold their own on any given Saturday (i.e. St. John Fisher, Salisbury), even the south last year showed me that you can never count a team out (Johns Hopkins and Huntingdon).

That's certainly true. SJF has had two really good playoff runs, Salisbury had one, JHU had one, but it was a while ago. Huntingdon wasn't in the playoffs last year. But by supplemental I mean teams with the talent level to sniff a title. I don't think there is another team in the South or East that has that ability right now, whereas there are teams out West and North that are one or two plays or players away.

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East Region football / Re: Empire 8
« on: March 03, 2014, 02:45:01 pm »
Right, except those two things are not mutually exclusive.

The moves make perfect sense from a geographical standpoint, but the E8 and NJAC teams will have to duke it out for a Pool A bid while probably knocking themselves out of the ever-shrinking Pool C in the process, while the LL can continue to get teams in the NCAA's at 5-5 or playing a 9-game schedule (or 8 or whatever Hobart decides will be least challenging to their delicate sensibilities)

Weak and strong conferences are always going to exist. The LL has had periods of balance in the past. Right now there is one dominant team. There is nothing unusual about that in D3. See the ASC and UMHB, the OAC and UMU, the WIAC lately, the CC and JHU lately, the NWC and Linfield, some conferences have long been dominated by one member. There is no point in letting it irritate you. Pool A and 32 team tournaments are much better than the pre-AQ option.

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East Region football / Re: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« on: March 03, 2014, 02:05:33 pm »
Good question. 25 is certainly not enough, but I'm thinking you could supplement with part of the other 100. Few teams go 100 deep on game days. I don't know how it would work, but  the players are limited by NCAA rules to a certain number of games a year. That includes JV contests from my recollection. So if you used 80 kids during the season, which is probably a bit high for many teams, that would leave you with 45 more at least for JV games. Probably more since there are kids that wouldn't play games early in the season and could play JV contests but would probably drop toward that 45 as you used some of those kids in varsity games as injuries take their toll during the season.

Lots of teams have JV programs and work something along these lines. Huntingdon and Birmingham Southern both come to mind around here.

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East Region football / Re: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« on: March 03, 2014, 01:41:01 pm »
Fascinating:

"Football is a big driver of enrollment numbers for the two private schools in this league, Wesley and Southern Virginia. The NJAC's 100-man roster limit will be raised to include a 25-man developmental squad (junior varsity) to try to mitigate the effects of moving into the league."

A good compromise. Well done to both sides for making it happen.

Ah, interesting.  So presumably Wesley will be able to stash most of their freshmen onto a JV squad with the provision that they just don't dress for varsity games?  I'm guessing that those guys will be allowed to practice, but just not to play in varsity games?  Sort of like redshirting those guys without the extra year of eligibility...I like it.  Curious - will all of the NJAC schools be permitted to use this option (the 25-man JV squad), or is this just a stopgap measure for Wesley and SV?

From the quote itself all of the NJAC will be able to do it. Wonder if they will start a JV league? Could really help even if only a few of the teams get involved. 4 or 5 JV games a year can really help prepare underclassmen.

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East Region football / Re: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« on: March 03, 2014, 01:30:56 pm »
Fascinating:

"Football is a big driver of enrollment numbers for the two private schools in this league, Wesley and Southern Virginia. The NJAC's 100-man roster limit will be raised to include a 25-man developmental squad (junior varsity) to try to mitigate the effects of moving into the league."

A good compromise. Well done to both sides for making it happen.

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No one has mentioned what I find most interesting about this. Now all 4 "regions" such as they are, have a power team. UWW in the West, Wesley in the East, UMU in the North and UMHB in the South. The North and West also have supplemental teams like Linfield and North Central and whoever wins the MIAC, an area where the South and East will still have some catching up. However, I could see the top 4 being more regional again after this shuffling. Of course, since the tourney has gone less regional for the top seeds its been more fair in my opinion, but this allows for the possibility of Regional 1 seeds and still maintaining that "fairness".

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East Region football / Re: Empire 8
« on: March 03, 2014, 01:19:04 pm »
So, trading Salisbury and Frostburg for Cortland and Morrisville strikes me, competitively, as nearly a wash. Brockport probably fills out the middle of the conference.

So will the E8 and NJAC sit there cannibalizing each other while the LL continues to be a one-team league?

I see it less as cannibalizing as a natural re-alignment into common sense. The geographic swap makes excellent sense, and I think the competition levels are close to a wash. Overall, this is a really good thing for the E8 and a pretty good thing for the NJAC. It does leave the NJAC significantly more exposed should the CAC ever get enough members, but that is a problem for the future.

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South Region / Re: MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: March 01, 2014, 08:08:57 am »
Geez. Can I cut and paste my previous post about the Generals?  The last three games, including the narrow loss to RMC the Generals have looked like a totally different team. Strange how seasons go sometimes

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