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North Region football / Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: January 08, 2015, 11:55:25 am »
Poor memory and attribution on my part- it was jknezek that gave the lean toward the PAC from about the hypothetical #3 on down.

Lean is a good description of my thoughts. A fairly shallow lean...

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South Region football / Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« on: January 07, 2015, 02:53:13 pm »
Better conference?
NCAC or PAC
Wabash and Witt vs W&J and Thomas More

That's a thin comparison. I'd take W&J out of the group this year, followed by Witt, Wabash and then TMC. Other years I'd be tempted to take the NCAC 1-2 at the top. But I'd take Waynesburg and Bethany over DePauw, Denison and OWU. I'd definitely take Westminister, CMU and CWRU most years over Hiram and Wooster. Oberlin Allegheny and Kenyon? Not better than Thiel. Geneva and Grove City are probably about a fair match up with the NCAC bottom feeders.

Overall the NCAC's big two are better in aggregate than the PAC big two, but it's close. As you go down the rest of the tiers, I'd primarily take the PAC teams. So top to bottom, I'd take the PAC, but certainly not a runaway...

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South Region football / Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« on: January 05, 2015, 04:36:33 pm »
Wow.  Big news.  And it makes me feel kind of old...I played (indirectly; we both played offense) against DiDonato.

I am somewhat surprised that they're willing to turn it over to DiDonato straight out of HS coaching (with just one transition year as OC) but perhaps the unique nature of Grove City lends itself to hiring an alumnus as HC, and DiDonato certainly has the look of someone who could be a lifer in this position if he does well.

At the risk of being an idiot can I ask what the unique nature of GC is?

GC has a fairly strong Christian focus. While they aren't the only college that does so, it is a pretty small minority of schools that require students to attend a certain number of chapel services per semester. I'm sure there is more to it, but that's the thing I remember most from an acquaintance who attended there a while ago.

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Men's soccer / Re: NESCAC
« on: January 05, 2015, 04:17:46 pm »
Interesting posts. I've also been picking up negative karma points nearly every day ... Someone is having some fun at our expense. Does anyone know when you get to qualify to be able to give karma?  I don't particularly care. I'm just curious.

200 posts. And you are best off ignoring it positive or negative. I tend to give positive karma when posts make me laugh or are really informative. I very rarely have given negative karma and it is almost exclusive to someone being insulting.

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General football / Re: The saddest days of the year
« on: December 26, 2014, 04:00:12 pm »
Unhappy bump time...

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South Region football / Re: South Region Fan Poll
« on: December 23, 2014, 12:24:00 pm »
Thanks Ralph for putting it all together. I enjoy being a part of the poll

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West Region football / Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: December 19, 2014, 04:04:07 pm »

It's the University of Buffalo.  Buffalo State is a different college.  Yes, there are two - a bit confusing.

Actually, for reasons surpassing my knowledge, it is The University AT Buffalo.

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South Region football / Re: American Southwest Conference
« on: December 19, 2014, 01:02:52 pm »
Anyone watching the game tonight?

After watching Mount last week, and seeing UWW struggle more, I think Mount wins 31-24. Of course, UWW had the tougher trip, but Mount just looks dominant. If UWW can contain the QB, they have a shot, but he is so dynamic, it's crazy to think he didn't play up a level.

No. Too bored of the rematch. But like most football games, this will be won on the lines. UWW has better lines in my opinion. 31-25...

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: December 19, 2014, 11:53:08 am »
anyone have any insight into how many full time coaches are on staff at most competitive D3 programs and what the recruiting budget might look like ? Does recruiting budget run through the admissions office or through the athletic office, or combination of both ?

Someone send up the Pat Signal. I'd be interested in those answers myself but if I had to guess I'd say it varies wildly, especially the recruiting budget.

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: December 18, 2014, 05:02:13 pm »
Davidson for example was D3 football and D1 in other sports and the moved up to FCS non scholarship. They are in the same football conference as Butler.
to my knowledge, davidson has never been d3...they just played a lot of d3's as a non-scholarship d1 football program

You are probably right. I was going on memory. I think Georgetown was D3 football too. But again going on memory.  Merry Christmas everyone!

Georgetown was D3 football, Davidson was not. Davidson Trustees in the late 80s voted to move the team to DIII but the team revolted and the school stayed or moved to DIA non scholarship. Prior to that they had offered need based scholarships only for a long time, probably the 70s. It was a real mishmash team.

Georgetown moved to D1A in the 90s when the rule talked about above took effect. You couldn't split divisions for football and basketball, even if it seemed like a grandfather situation. I don't know why.

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East Region football / Re: Liberty League
« on: December 17, 2014, 02:29:11 pm »
Not sure if describe the Boz as a high school field but I guess compared to the stadiums in D1 I suppose it's sort of accurate.

Marpet has the look of a pro player, hope he shows well. I'm guessing he'd have to convert to guard vs being s tackle at "only" 310 but time will tell.

h.s. football stadiums:

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2014/10/five_best_high_school_football_stadiums.php

Bos:

http://www.hwsathletics.com/sports/2008/6/27/GEN_0627081321.aspx?id=1


You're right. Those h.s. fields, at least, have most D3 stadiums beat hands down...  ;D
Texas HS football is probably power ranked above intercollegiate D3 ;)

Maybe. It probably is more popular in the few Texas towns that share a D3 team... But B-SC wouldn't outdraw a good deal of the Birmingham AL area h.s. teams either, so that could be fairly common.

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: December 17, 2014, 02:25:53 pm »
If you look on their soccer history website they clearly played a D1 schedule in 2005

http://www.oneontaathletics.com/cumestats.aspx?path=msoc&year=2005

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: December 17, 2014, 11:56:58 am »
I know I brought up the NCAA rule. I've always wondered how John Hopkins plays D1 Lacrosse. Anyone know?

Grandfathered in. Lacrosse, some hockey teams. Athletes on scholarship in those sports can't play other sports.

It must be a Lacrosse and hockey thing. Davidson for example was D3 football and D1 in other sports and the moved up to FCS non scholarship. They are in the same football conference as Butler.

This wiki has a good explanation under the section labeled "controversy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_I_%28NCAA%29#Controversy

The Division I programs at each of the eight "waiver schools" which were grandfathered with the passing of Proposal 65-1 were:

    Clarkson University men's and women's ice hockey
    Colorado College men's ice hockey, women's soccer
    Hartwick College men's soccer, women's water polo
    Johns Hopkins University men's and women's lacrosse
    Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute men's ice hockey (women's ice hockey moved up to Division I in 2005)
    Rutgers University-Newark men's volleyball (dropped to Division III in 2014)
    St. Lawrence University men's and women's ice hockey
    SUNY Oneonta men's soccer (dropped to Division III in 2006)

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: December 17, 2014, 11:44:55 am »
I know I brought up the NCAA rule. I've always wondered how John Hopkins plays D1 Lacrosse. Anyone know?

Grandfathered in. Lacrosse, some hockey teams. Athletes on scholarship in those sports can't play other sports.

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: December 17, 2014, 11:11:16 am »
Who has had talked of moving to 1AA which is actually D1 FCS? MU? UWW? Or both? That would make ZERO sense. Moving up would not put more people in the stands for home games. They would play fewer home games. They would have to provide free education to the tune of 63 scholarships.  Finally, by NCAA rule - all other sports would have to play D1. Meaning many more scholarships and exceptionally high travel costs across all sports, softball, swimming, cross country..  I cannot imagine either team moving up.

Glad you said this, because a lot of people don't realize that rule. Also, there isn't a DIII school out there that's prepared to start offering scholarships to their entire athletic department, just because one, two, or even a handful of programs are having success.

This cuts both ways. You don't have to offer scholarships to all athletes. There are non-scholarship D1 conferences. You can even pick and choose within the limits of Title IX, conference restraints, etc. Butler, for example, is non-scholarship for football but scholarship in other sports. That being said, it is a massive change and I agree there isn't a DIII school that could easily make that jump. There are schools that could do it based on endowment funding, but it would involve massive planning and expenses.

Yea, I have thought about that though. But what would be in it for UWW, UMU, MHB, etc. bumping up to a non-scholarship D1 conference? Yes, it would benefit other DIII schools as they would now have a better chance at winning a Stagg Bowl because the playoffs are watered down.

I agree 100%. I never make the argument they should move. Nor do I see any great advantage to those schools. I simply pointed out that you don't have to provide all those expensive scholarships. They are a maximum, not a requirement.

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