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Lacrosse, track, cross country, softball / Re: Lacrosse
« on: May 13, 2016, 12:57:50 pm »
W&L had one guy last year that played both football and lacrosse. I think it's not too terribly uncommon to have one or two at W&L. But there are none on the roster right now. It was a lot more in the late 90s when I was there. Probably 3-5 at a time. But I don't remember there being that many in quite a while.

Kids specialize so much these days and it starts so early, I think it is harder and harder to compete at even the larger h.s. levels in more than one team sport let alone DIII. Track and football? Sure. But wrestling and football or football and lax, let alone football and basketball? Really, really hard.

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: May 13, 2016, 12:22:45 pm »
As a W&L football fan, I can say that the last 10 or 12 years have been halcyon years. There have been some down years, no doubt, 08-09 and 13-14 come to mind. But otherwise, we've been hammering away at one or two conference losses a year. Compared to the 90s and early naughts, it's been a lot more fun to watch!

I arrived on campus for the '96 season, we went 5-5, 2-3. '97 we were 4-6, 2-3. '98 4-6, 1-4, and '99 5-5, 3-3. 2012 vs 2011? I'll take them both, but it's a debate I consider I win on either way!

They had to be happy you left.  :-[

Eh. They didn't really get rolling until 2005 or so. They went 5-5 the three years after I left, then 3-5 before the good years started.  ;D

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Lacrosse, track, cross country, softball / Re: Lacrosse
« on: May 13, 2016, 10:23:38 am »
Meanwhile, last year's "Team That Wanted to Be Recognized" Mount Union takes on a very solid Washington & Lee team in the first round, with the winner facing F&M.  Washington & Lee is 13-5 but all their losses came from ranked teams, like Salisbury, F&M and Gettysburg, and two of their losses were by single goals.  I think the Generals will easily handle the 15-3 Purple Raiders on Saturday, then get fed into the meat grinder against the Dips on Sunday.

I don't know about UMU but W&L is a few pieces shy of being able to beat the big dogs. They are very good, are on their seventh straight trip to the tournament, and beat their first opponent the last two years before succumbing. Not sure this is W&L's best team, they struggled for goals against the top tier teams, but I also think they will get past a relatively untested UMU. SJF seems to be the only tournament team UMU faced, and SJF didn't have much trouble with the Raiders.

W&L gave Mary Washington and St. Mary's all they could handle. If they had pulled out one of those two wins they might be sitting on the bye. But Salisbury, Gettysburg and F&M showed W&L there is still work to be done if you want to compete at the very top level.

I'd like to see W&L earn the rematch with the Dips. See if they can hold them to just a few goals again.

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Lacrosse, track, cross country, softball / Re: Lacrosse
« on: May 12, 2016, 04:51:12 pm »


It seemed that there were many lopsided scores in the first round. 

So, I wanted to ask about this, because I don't know much about D-III lacrosse nationally, but watching the Ithaca game, I was kind of stunned that, even against a team as great as this Bomber team is, an NCAA playoff team could get outscored 13-0 in one quarter.

I was looking at some top 20 polls, and I saw that Ohio Wesleyan (10/17), Bowdoin (13/16), Williams (16/ARV) Bates (14/18) and  Stevens (19/ARV) teams did not qualify for the NCAA Tournament, while obviously some unranked teams did. Rankings aren't gospel truths, of course, but this happens in D-III sports. Because of the reliance on autobids, sometimes really good teams from deep conferences get left home if they lose in the conference tournament while the best team in weaker conferences gets in, despite probably not being as good.

I don't know if this is the case with regard to lacrosse, and as I said, if it is, D-III views it as a feature, not a bug (Which...okay, I don't agree, but it is what it is). And this isn't a rip on Morrisville St., but it's the first thing that popped into my mind

Bombers it works the same way as it does in football, AQ, Pool B and Pool C. So you end up with the same disparities you are familiar with in other sports. All of DIII works the same way, and given the same kind of travel restraints, you get what you get. I will say that while football has a few conferences with 2 or maybe 3 playoff worthy teams, there are lax conferences that run almost the whole conference deep versus some of the AQ leagues.

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Lacrosse, track, cross country, softball / Re: Lacrosse
« on: May 12, 2016, 10:48:19 am »
W&L eased past Sewanee with a strong 4th quarter. Sewanee statistically had the better game, but W&L looked the better team. Bigger, stronger, faster. Lot of Sewanee shots were wing and prayer from outside as they had trouble penetrating the W&L defense. W&L, however, will need to play better to get past York. A hot goalie helps, and W&L's was outstanding again, but despite being physically more imposing than Sewanee the Generals looked tired in their 3rd game in 5 days. With only a short turn around before York, W&L will need to find an extra gear somewhere.

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2016, 03:48:54 pm »
As a W&L football fan, I can say that the last 10 or 12 years have been halcyon years. There have been some down years, no doubt, 08-09 and 13-14 come to mind. But otherwise, we've been hammering away at one or two conference losses a year. Compared to the 90s and early naughts, it's been a lot more fun to watch!

I arrived on campus for the '96 season, we went 5-5, 2-3. '97 we were 4-6, 2-3. '98 4-6, 1-4, and '99 5-5, 3-3. 2012 vs 2011? I'll take them both, but it's a debate I consider I win on either way!

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2016, 11:30:13 am »
Back to the 2011 W&L team, I still think the team that beat HSC in the 4 overtime game is the best W&L team I've seen. That game keeps me up at night as well. A missed 37 yard Fg was the difference. Best D3 game I've seen.

I agree with the bolded part. But that 2012 team was all Luke Heinsohn. Nick Lombardo at QB was more than competent, but he didn't have the command of the spread option that 3 year starter Charlie Westfal had the year before. 2012 did pack a little more stout and mature defense, but the offense was so focused around Heinsohn, deservedly so as he was almost unstoppable, that it lacked some explosiveness from the year before. The 2012 team also completely lost focus at Bridgewater. The closest 2011 came to having the same kind of breakdown was the first half against H-SC, and they fought back in that one, something the 2012 team couldn't do against the 4-3 ODAC Eagles (7-3 overall, but given their OOC it is hardly worth counting those games).

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Men's soccer / Re: 2016 National Championship Contenders
« on: May 11, 2016, 10:39:47 am »

W&L will reload.  Playing in the ODAC, I think they will repeat...
Agreed. My point isn't so much that they shouldn't be at least as good as last year, they should, my point is that I don't think they have the guns to take the final step.

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2016, 10:37:25 am »
Definitely watching this one. Must see TV, I mean live stream.

Maybe. It is a good week 1 match up and since it is a Thurs night for some reason, it's in a good slot to get what passes for a lot of attention in DIII. Hopefully the Generals will be up to it. We haven't won a road opener since the 50s I believe...

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South Region football / Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2016, 10:35:10 am »
I wouldn't recommend any FL schools go DIII. Especially Warner in Lake Wales. FL is huge north to south. Lake Wales is almost 500 miles from Atlanta. Huntingdon might be the closest DIII football school at just over 500 miles and 8 hours. There is no way any schools in FL can go DIII unless they get enough to form a conference all at once.

As someone who once a year drives in a motor home from Birmingham to the Okeechobee area I can tell you a bus from a school in FL to a school out of FL would be a tortuously long and expensive. Even worse than many of the TX schools except perhaps Sul Ross State.

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2016, 10:29:45 am »
Jk

You are correct, again. In 2011 HSC traveled played at Centre in the first round, lost in a close game. The next week Centre traveled to Mount Union and only got beat 20 to 0 (I think that is correct).

According to UMU's website it was 30-10. Interestingly, only Wesley and Baldwin Wallace managed to score more than 10 points on UMU that year. Only Centre and UWW scored 10.

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Men's soccer / Re: 2016 National Championship Contenders
« on: May 11, 2016, 09:21:13 am »
I think W&L definitely belongs in the Pretender category as several of you posted. They lost their best player and ODAC POY Ben Bayles to graduation. They also lose a 59 game starter in the defense. While those were the only seniors on a young team, they are parts that aren't easily replaced. I expect W&L to compete at least as well as they did last year, and they should have a shot at winning the ODAC again, but I would be surprised to see them advance too deep unless they have a hidden star to be the new focal point of the offense. I don't think they are quite ready to beat the big boys regularly, but I do think Coach Singleton has them going in the right direction and I don't think the big boys are going to be able to blow them off the field.

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South Region football / Re: FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2016, 09:10:08 am »
Jk

Congrats to your Generals on a great year. That goal line stand still keeps me up at night and I believe your boys will be better next year, in football that is. Don't really care about the other sports but I know others do and I respect that.

I'm certainly proud of them! That goal line stand was epic. I also believe this W&L football team will be better than last year. If the injury bug doesn't bite, I could see this team being as good as 2011, which despite not winning the conference was the best W&L team I ever saw. That group lost by 7 on the road to Centre and by 7 on the road to H-SC. Both playoff teams. This year's team has to travel to JHU, but otherwise the schedule sets up well for them.

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South Region football / Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2016, 09:02:45 am »
There is no doubt that low density areas of the country for DIII, the SE, SW, Rocky Mountain states, and many of the flyover states, are problematic. I think the SE is getting better. At the rate of DIII additions I can see there being enough density for the USAS to split into two better fit geographic conferences in the relatively near future. For certain sports like football and lacrosse you might have to stay combined, but for high participation sports like soccer, basketball, T&F, etc I think it won't take too much more before it gets better.

Personally I think the NAIA is dying in certain geographies. Mainly those areas where DIII is already strong. For schools with any kind of academic accountability in their athletic admissions, I think DIII will be very attractive. The NAIA's attempt to form a clearinghouse is limiting the appeal of their wild, wild west admissions for many schools, and closing the gap with the NCAA model, making it less interesting as a stand alone.

While I think there are certain geographies where NAIA will continue to do well because they have the density DII/DIII lack, I'm looking at the flyover states and the SW especially, in areas where DIII or DII are growing I believe you will keep seeing defections and I think this describes the SE. There are a bunch of NAIA schools in MS, AL, a pair in NC, and a ton in TN, SC and GA. A few more defections in the TN/GA area, especially, will allow another DIII conference in the SE and schools to realign geographically.

If I was the northern part of the USAS I would be calling a few of the TN, both NC schools and the lone VA holdout to see if their athletics match up. If I was the southern grouping, I'd be looking at the GA, MS and one or two of the AL schools. That would solve the problem pretty efficiently.

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South Region football / Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: May 10, 2016, 12:54:12 pm »
Here's something to think about:


M'Ville in USAS  sorted by distance 
at Ferrum (278 mi., 4:38)
at LaGrange (283 mi., 4:16)
at Greensboro (302 mi., 4:43)
vs. Averrett (319 mi., 5:13)
vs. Huntingdon (350 mi., 5:08)
at Methodist (394 mi., 6:17)
vs. NCWC (435 mi., 6:57)


M'Ville hypothetically in ODAC, sorted by distance (after Catholic leaves)
E&H (154, 2:24)
Guilford (297, 4:37)
W&L (319, 4:51)
H-SC (359, 5:52)
Bwater (369, 5:30)
Shenandoah (440, 6:32)
RMC (447, 6:42)

For football, at least, the USAS is a better fit for travel than the ODAC for M'Ville. As crappy as the distances are, they could be worse. In fact it gets much worse if you add in the other sports. The NW Georgia and Atlanta schools which are 3-3.5 hours from M'Ville versus schools like EMU and Randolph which are 4-6 hours at least. Let alone VWC which is 544, 8:01!




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