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North Region football / Re: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: February 23, 2015, 10:03:52 am »

I mean, seriously.  Who doesn't have schitty stats against Mount Union?

Lance Leipold  ;)

+1... he's got you there. The fact that is one person in all of D3 over the last 20+ years doesn't make it any less true.

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North Region football / Re: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: February 19, 2015, 09:12:51 am »
Congrats to former DePauw offensive coordinator Dustin Ward, named same at VMI - http://www.depauw.edu/news-media/latest-news/details/31486/

The Keydets are a big coaching challenge for anyone to take on. Good luck with that. Tough conference, tough school to recruit at.

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North Region football / Re: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: February 19, 2015, 09:09:58 am »
I don't really consider Coach Scafe legendary by any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't get too hung up over his new school president describing him that way. What else were they supposed to put in the press release? "We hired a coach with an above .600 winning percentage who didn't compete with the very best team in the country, like almost everyone else, over the same stretch of time."

I mean, it's a press release to get the fans interested. Legendary might be a bit of a stretch, but it's not unusual to take that tack when announcing a new hire.

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East Region football / Re: Liberty League
« on: February 17, 2015, 02:00:17 pm »
Been hearing a lot about Hobart's Left Tackle Ali Marpet, the best tackle in LL? Country? Has anybody seen him play this year and is he as dominate as people have been saying? I do remember him last year against us and he was as good as advertised. Also listed as a junior captain for the statesman.

I think you might have, ummmm, misspelled your handle... Since the team that faced Hobart last season was Wittenberg.  You might want to ask iamhuge about talent assessment on these message boards...

Wow. That's bad. This may belong in the Saterday and exited pantheon.

I guess we need to retire this, although it still makes me laugh. Congratulations to the young man on his excellent college career and his seemingly bright future.

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South Region football / Re: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: February 12, 2015, 10:45:54 am »
That's a tough loss. He was doing really good things in Maryville.

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South Region / Re: MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 11, 2015, 04:18:08 pm »
I'm pretty sure the W&L game was the trap game. The inferior opponent before the big tv game against the long-standing rival. RMC squeaked that one out, they should be more motivated for this one.

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South Region football / Re: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: February 10, 2015, 04:58:18 pm »
What happen to the day when recruits waited until May 1st, compare several financial packages from schools of interest and then decide where they were going. Great news that MC aleady has recruits locked in. Certainly does not work that way at HSC or most other ODAC schools.

Lots of schools offer binding early admissions still. Some in the ODAC do, so it is possible that the schools know some recruits.

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South Region football / Re: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« on: February 09, 2015, 10:18:11 am »
I don't think it's that unusual for coaches to coach in HS after coaching in D3.  It happens all the time in lacrosse.  Most of the people I know who do it complain about the constant recruiting in D3.  HS jobs do not require all that much travel.  The guys I know who made the change also got HS coaching jobs that were associated with FT teaching jobs.

Serious, not-being-a-prick question: how many D3 schools have lacrosse-coaching positions that are FT?

Very few. But I bet most football coaches in D3 also have ancillary jobs. At W&L they used to teach a PE class or two in winter/spring term (W&L does trimesters). Probably still do, but I won't guarantee it as I'm now coming up on 15 years out. I think most of the head coaches are in the same boat. We had to take 6 semesters of PE before graduation, so I had golf with the swim team coach, squash with the head football coach, volleyball with the lacrosse coach, tennis with someone I can't remember, and I can't remember the other two but they were all pretty much head or assistant coaches.


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West Region football / Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 06, 2015, 12:27:53 pm »
Yep. It is time to admit those of us with degrees in journalism and life experience in the field simply don't know as much as Emma.

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West Region football / Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:04:19 am »
Jknezek
I'm sorry you are bored with my desire for posters to discuss the facts and not misrepresentations.  It's actually my personal mission to better the world.

You're guilty of posting this- and it's intellectually dishonest.
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Holding a student newspaper out to only do it's job if it can be done perfectly all the time is unreasonable.


Why is that intellectually dishonest? Did you read what I posted above that explains that statement and justifies it? Do you have anything that adds to the conversation besides insults and dodging the topic? You seem incapable of actually making a statement that supports a position and only capable of making complaints and insulting people. I'm the third person in a row that has disagreed with you that has been accused of twisting words and intellectual dishonesty. Have you considered its not everyone else that it is you?

I suppose that is the mark of an internet poster all too often these days. Incapable of logic and reasoning, exceptionally capable of insults and trolling.

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West Region football / Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 04, 2015, 06:54:29 pm »
Every newspaper makes mistakes. From the NY Times to the Vidalia News. That's why they have a corrections and retractions section. Being perfect isn't what qualifies a journalist to break news at any level, that is simply the job. All papers are expected to be ethical, but that is different from never making a mistake. Holding a student newspaper out to only do it's job if it can be done perfectly all the time is unreasonable.

Right Jknezek- because that's what Bleed is clearly saying-perfection is mandatory.

As far as I'm concerned, there are way too many posters on these boards that have a real problem with twisting words, misrepresenting positions and taking points out of context. It indicates a real weakness in your position, and your character, when you can't respectfully engage in a debate or subject with intellectual honesty.

This is your defense to everything and it gets incredibly boring. Especially when a simple ability to look at a point of view logically that you don't agree with leads you to say I have a weakness in my character and a lack of intellectual honesty. That is a sad series of insults that is out of place. Try and follow along with my position. It shouldn't be that hard for someone with your intellectual honesty.


These are his words describing what he feels others apparently believe about student journalists:

"Those students can't be expected to follow the highest of journalistic standards yet, because they are understandably in-process.  Mistakes will happen. They are there to learn. They are just students."

First, he's wrong. No one said anything about not expecting students to follow the highest journalistic standards. I certainly do and I tried to live up to those standards when it was my turn. However, living up to those standards and not making mistakes are not the same thing. Everyone, every newspaper makes mistakes, from the best pros on down. And yet that is exactly what he is equating.

Now, reread my response. I addressed only that point. Not making mistakes is the definition of perfection. Ask a dictionary or keep it simple and Google it. Here you go:

"the condition, state, or quality of being free or as free as possible from all flaws or defects."

So no, I'm not twisting his words in the slightest. I'm using the definition of "no mistakes" to equal perfection, which it is a synonym of, see the definition above. If you still think that is "twisting words" than you have a problem with understanding the phrase, and that is not a flaw in my character.

I can't help what he wrote. I can only refute what he wrote. Highest journalistic standards does not equal no mistakes. It's really simple.

So then it becomes fairly easy to talk about the rest of what he wrote. If they are trying for the highest standards, but sometimes not achieving perfection like everyone else, then why wouldn't they have the same right to try and break news as any other newspaper?









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West Region football / Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 04, 2015, 05:54:42 pm »
Every newspaper makes mistakes. From the NY Times to the Vidalia News. That's why they have a corrections and retractions section. Being perfect isn't what qualifies a journalist to break news at any level, that is simply the job. All papers are expected to be ethical, but that is different from never making a mistake. Holding a student newspaper out to only do it's job if it can be done perfectly all the time is unreasonable.

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West Region football / Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 03, 2015, 06:56:50 pm »
There is no way a journalist keeps quiet if they have news attributed to reputable sources. Not unless they are promised something else in return or given a valid reason the info should remain under wraps.

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West Region football / Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: February 03, 2015, 12:51:01 pm »
Whether it's a big deal or not I won't comment on.

In this particular case I would have preferred to see the RP hold off and wait for the formal announcement to occur- given the importance of showing the integrity of the decision process.
I see no "scoop" value to the RP. As an extension of UWW I'd prefer to see them work together on something like this.

Simply not the job of a student newspaper, or any  newspaper, to be the mouthpiece of the local authority.

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West Region football / Re: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« on: January 31, 2015, 08:43:19 pm »
As a former editor of a student newspaper I'll simply say it is a difficult task. We were a weekly, came out every Wednesday. There wasn't a Tuesday night from my sophomore year as Sports Editor to my senior year as Editor in Chief, that Tuesday night wasn't an all-nighter getting that paper ready for a.m. printing. We didn't get class time to do it, our faculty adviser sure wasn't going to be there all night with us, and sometimes you just make mistakes.

That being said, you did try and learn from those mistakes and get better, but every year you have new people filling those roles. So sometimes the mistakes get made repeatedly not because someone didn't learn, but because that someone had long since graduated. Not much different from college athletics in that regard.

Posting a story early with bad attribution isn't good. Forgetting a former football coach was still alive isn't good. But they are the kind of mistakes students make, especially when in a rush or thinking about the test the next day instead of what they are editing. Ease up. Like college athletes, they are doing this for the love of writing a paper and to get some experience, not because they are being paid...

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