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East Region football / Re: Empire 8
« on: March 03, 2014, 01:19:04 pm »
So, trading Salisbury and Frostburg for Cortland and Morrisville strikes me, competitively, as nearly a wash. Brockport probably fills out the middle of the conference.

So will the E8 and NJAC sit there cannibalizing each other while the LL continues to be a one-team league?

I see it less as cannibalizing as a natural re-alignment into common sense. The geographic swap makes excellent sense, and I think the competition levels are close to a wash. Overall, this is a really good thing for the E8 and a pretty good thing for the NJAC. It does leave the NJAC significantly more exposed should the CAC ever get enough members, but that is a problem for the future.

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South Region / Re: MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: March 01, 2014, 08:08:57 am »
Geez. Can I cut and paste my previous post about the Generals?  The last three games, including the narrow loss to RMC the Generals have looked like a totally different team. Strange how seasons go sometimes

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 28, 2014, 02:07:07 pm »
It appears Mr. Dorton isn't as pro-Emory as social media would lead one to believe:

http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/dortons-letter/

What a mess.
That's a fairly revealing letter, wouldn't you say?

Well it's a comprehensive complaint from one side of the story. Personally it made me cringe both from the behavior that E&H was accused of as well as the tone the parent used. Others pointed out the sense of entitlement in the tone and I completely agree. On the other hand, the hard sell tactics described, the promises, the behavior of alumni and staff, are all things we simply dread making its way into D3...

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 27, 2014, 03:49:20 pm »
It appears Mr. Dorton isn't as pro-Emory as social media would lead one to believe:

http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/dortons-letter/

What a mess.

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North Region football / Re: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 27, 2014, 02:01:19 pm »
The impression that I've gotten is that the main issues concerning college athletes who support unionizing  are medical and due process for the revoking of their scholarships rather than pay.  That's not to say pay wouldn't eventually come into play but right now that isn't the issue.

If pay was the main publicized issue then it would garner less public support. Clever marketing keeps it focused on "health" and "justice" regardless of what may actually be the main underlying reason. And no, that doesn't mean I don't support them. I think a union is not the answer, but I do agree that Div 1 athletics is a minor league system and should be treated that way. Either the professional sports have to adopt baseball's model, which allows for professionals out of h.s. OR amateur athletics, or the NCAA has to admit that what it is doing is running a minor league system where the players are under-compensated. Since I have no hope the NFL or the NBA is going follow MLS, the NHL, or MLB, then it falls on the NCAA to do the right thing.

Scholarships should be abolished and the players should be paid a salary. Out of that salary they can pay for tuition and room and board. Personally I think the salary should be capped by year for all schools, and bonuses should be the same across the board. So a FY gets X, with Y*games played as a bonus. A sophomore gets something over X, with the same bonus structure, a senior gets the most. All awards from Freshman of the Year in a conference up to the Heisman should get a standardized bonus as well. So not only is there a "salary cap" per se, but it is a hard structure for all players in D1. Finally, any money a player can make outside of school is their own business, similar to the Olympic model.

I'd have to think about it more to address problems (differences in tuition and cost of living at various schools is the biggy off the top of my head), but I think it could be done this way.


I agree with both of those statements. Abolishing scholarships and paying all athletes may just  be the place start. However, colleges and universities are not the minor leagues. And what if the kid doesn't want  to go to school? Would they be required to take a minimum number of courses to play?  Also, by  paying them a salary, athletes would  they also then be required to pay for their own shoes, shirts, shorts, etc. that the team requires them to own (just like employees of businesses that require a uniform) AND pay taxes, insurance, etc.? Lots to think about.....

As for the statement in bold, I no longer care. If the student chooses to enroll and attend in hopes of getting a degree it should be a bonus. Lets face it, very few of these guys actually go pro, so I'm assuming a lot of them would enroll. But if a few treat it just as a workplace, that's ok with me too.  As for paying for uniforms, that's a minor concern. Professional players in the minor leagues wear team provided uniforms. If you want something more or different, that's between you and the team. Pay taxes? Sure, if it's a job. Insurance should be provided by the employer like most full-time work places (no politics here, just referring to most pro sports businesses, even minor leagues, the players are provided an insurance option).

The key is to stop treating Div I athletics differently from any other professional sports league. Once you do that, you'll realize that the problems have mostly been hammered out in other places. The big ones revolve around pay schedules and the issue of whether the teams are "affiliated" with universities, or actually part of the university. Given how most athletic departments in major D1 are university affiliates these days, even that shouldn't be too big of an issue. We have an unpaid minor league system now, in the name of universities are special. Take that away and you'll end up with a paid minor league system with the fanbase primarily coming from the university.

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 27, 2014, 01:27:06 pm »
E&H student newspaper on a big story:
http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/2014/02/27/ehcunderncaainvestigation/

Yeesh. One kid on record could be spilt milk, or the tip of an iceberg. Have to see if the NCAA turns anything else up. Given the state of the NCAA enforcement division, I'm not counting on them finding anything, and hopefully nothing actually went on. If it did, all I can say is E&H did not get value for their money...

First, that's a really good piece of student journalism.  Second, whoa.  Connect the dots...coach resigns just before this stuff drops, all parties- coaches, administrators, trustees- aren't defensive in any way or even giving a hint that the student-athlete's story is false...lot of smoke here.  This dirt's gonna stick.

My opinion leans that way too Wally. And as a former sports editor I can appreciate the story, but it is one kid so far who seems to have justifications to be annoyed with E&H (refund scholarship money and credit issue). And the NCAA is... understaffed? Ineffective? Overwhelmed? Ludicrously unable to do their job? In other words, I have little faith in the NCAA right now. Finally, I stand by my very last sentence. But yes, I agree, this does not look good for E&H.

What kinds of sanctions are you really going to levy on a D-III school?  You can't take scholarships.  About the only thing you can do is scold the administration and give a postseason ban.  If the former HC and OC here did in fact do some very non-D3 things in the recruitment of this player (and maybe others...hard to believe that it's just one kid, but then again I don't know how many other FCS transfers EH is chasing down), then you hit the coaches with a show cause and E&H imposes a 2-3 year postseason ban.  Take the medicine and move on.

I agree with all of that. The only thing I'll say is the NCAA, at this point, essentially needs the school or the people involved to confess. I just don't think they have the ability, the reputation, or the credentials, to actually investigate anything. So yes, if the school did it there isn't much the NCAA can do, BUT I don't really feel the NCAA has much chance of finding out if they actually did it, either. That's just my very low opinion of the NCAA these days.

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North Region football / Re: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« on: February 27, 2014, 11:55:24 am »
The impression that I've gotten is that the main issues concerning college athletes who support unionizing  are medical and due process for the revoking of their scholarships rather than pay.  That's not to say pay wouldn't eventually come into play but right now that isn't the issue.

If pay was the main publicized issue then it would garner less public support. Clever marketing keeps it focused on "health" and "justice" regardless of what may actually be the main underlying reason. And no, that doesn't mean I don't support them. I think a union is not the answer, but I do agree that Div 1 athletics is a minor league system and should be treated that way. Either the professional sports have to adopt baseball's model, which allows for professionals out of h.s. OR amateur athletics, or the NCAA has to admit that what it is doing is running a minor league system where the players are under-compensated. Since I have no hope the NFL or the NBA is going follow MLS, the NHL, or MLB, then it falls on the NCAA to do the right thing.

Scholarships should be abolished and the players should be paid a salary. Out of that salary they can pay for tuition and room and board. Personally I think the salary should be capped by year for all schools, and bonuses should be the same across the board. So a FY gets X, with Y*games played as a bonus. A sophomore gets something over X, with the same bonus structure, a senior gets the most. All awards from Freshman of the Year in a conference up to the Heisman should get a standardized bonus as well. So not only is there a "salary cap" per se, but it is a hard structure for all players in D1. Finally, any money a player can make outside of school is their own business, similar to the Olympic model.

I'd have to think about it more to address problems (differences in tuition and cost of living at various schools is the biggy off the top of my head), but I think it could be done this way.

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 27, 2014, 11:41:49 am »
E&H student newspaper on a big story:
http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/2014/02/27/ehcunderncaainvestigation/

Yeesh. One kid on record could be spilt milk, or the tip of an iceberg. Have to see if the NCAA turns anything else up. Given the state of the NCAA enforcement division, I'm not counting on them finding anything, and hopefully nothing actually went on. If it did, all I can say is E&H did not get value for their money...

First, that's a really good piece of student journalism.  Second, whoa.  Connect the dots...coach resigns just before this stuff drops, all parties- coaches, administrators, trustees- aren't defensive in any way or even giving a hint that the student-athlete's story is false...lot of smoke here.  This dirt's gonna stick.

My opinion leans that way too Wally. And as a former sports editor I can appreciate the story, but it is one kid so far who seems to have justifications to be annoyed with E&H (refund scholarship money and credit issue). And the NCAA is... understaffed? Ineffective? Overwhelmed? Ludicrously unable to do their job? In other words, I have little faith in the NCAA right now. Finally, I stand by my very last sentence. But yes, I agree, this does not look good for E&H.

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 27, 2014, 09:17:45 am »
E&H student newspaper on a big story:
http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/2014/02/27/ehcunderncaainvestigation/

Yeesh. One kid on record could be spilt milk, or the tip of an iceberg. Have to see if the NCAA turns anything else up. Given the state of the NCAA enforcement division, I'm not counting on them finding anything, and hopefully nothing actually went on. If it did, all I can say is E&H did not get value for their money...

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South Region / Re: MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 25, 2014, 11:17:04 pm »
Looks as though the Quakers draw the Generals ... congratulations to W&L!

Once a year the Generals put it together. I've been waiting all season for that one moment. Thought it was going to be against RMC the other day but I'm happy to see the Generals return to Salem even in this otherwise ugly year. Good luck to the ODAC teams!

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East Region football / Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« on: February 17, 2014, 06:11:56 pm »
It all depends on your point of view. If it's money, then it's a promotion. If its a chance to coach at big-time college football, it's a promotion. If it's a realistic chance to make a long-term mark on a program, or keeping your family in one spot for a long period of time, it's probably not a promotion. While you have almost no chance of moving from a D3 to a D1 head coaching position, he will now get the chance to climb the ladder and have that rare as hen's teeth shot going this route. But usually it involves a lot of hopping around, every couple years, long hours, miserable pressure, and good odds of getting canned because a whole team under performed, whether it was your position or not.

Really it just depends on what your long term goals are. I wish him a lot of luck, it's a very hard path to climb at that level.

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 12, 2014, 08:50:29 am »
It does make me wonder what is the longest losing streak amongst the ODAC teams? For W&L it would be 18 straight losses to E&H between a 21-14 loss at E&H 09/17/83 and a 22-9 win in Lexington 11/09/2002.
Good question.  I hope W&L keeps that record.  :)  Just to clarify, did E&H or W&L win the the 22-9 game in 2002?  If E&H won, it would be 19 straight - if W&L won, then it is 18.

W&L won in 2002. It took all my fingers and most of my toes, but I did count them right!

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South Region football / Re: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 11, 2014, 02:43:49 pm »
It does make me wonder what is the longest losing streak amongst the ODAC teams? For W&L it would be 18 straight losses to E&H between a 21-14 loss at E&H 09/17/83 and a 22-9 win in Lexington 11/09/2002.

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South Region / Re: MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference
« on: February 05, 2014, 04:47:08 pm »
Not all of them of course, but coaches and players see their ranking (if applicable), and they read this message board.

As some of you are probably aware, in the football pre-season one of Catholic's players, who had formerly been at W&L, put up a single post acknowledging his switch for football reasons as a senior but his intent to transfer back to W&L to graduate in Lexington after the season.

I think a good number of players do read these boards and that should be something we, as posters, keep in mind. These players in all sports are playing for nothing more than pride and joy and so I try and keep any negative posts away from targeting specific players. My entertainment and amusement, or lack thereof, with a particular team or effort is a reflection on me, not those players who are enjoying playing the game for the right reasons.

Thankfully the ODAC boards in any sport don't seem to suffer from too many posters going after players, so this isn't really a problem, but I like to remind people to keep in mind what you post might be something that a player reads. If you wouldn't say it to his/her face, it probably shouldn't be posted.


*** dang it, someone keep the soapboxes away from me! ***

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South Region football / Re: American Southwest Conference
« on: February 05, 2014, 04:40:26 pm »
Here are some Austin-area "signings" (the paper here reports them despite my best efforts to get them to stop, so I've given up):

Blayne Parisher, WR, Burnet HS:  Howard Payne
Jace LaCaille, LB, Georgetown HS:  Mary Hardin-Baylor
Colton Schwartz, DL, Lago Vista HS:  Mary-Hardin Baylor
Stacy Anderson, OL, Round Rock Stony Point:  Howard Payne

http://www.statesman.com/weblogs/varsity-news/2014/feb/05/local-football-players-use-their-signatures-signin/

It's nice recognition. While the terminology is incorrect, it's nice to see the players and schools being given some play in the papers. I have less of a problem with D3 "signings" than I do with the term "commitments" as it is thrown around for D1 fanbases prior to signing a NLI.

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