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Mid-East Region / Re: 2015 Regionals
« on: May 14, 2015, 01:12:23 pm »
Great to hear. The NCAC representative needs to do well at the regionals. Nice to see them do well. they almost beat Cortland the other day.

Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 14, 2015, 01:10:27 pm »
The NCAC needs the Obies to do well against other regions/conferences. We need to build the rep of the NCAC.

Mid-East Region / Re: BB: OAC: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: May 12, 2015, 12:50:40 pm »
Not really a big shock about Wooster when you consider their SOS ranking was 237th.  Scheduling wins didn't impress the committee.  Same can be said for Northern as their SOS ranked 118th(ish).  Sad to see ONU left home, but not making the OAC tournament hurt in more ways than one (Not getting the SOS points, Not getting the chance to win against good competition, not winning it outright, and the perception of not being good enough to make your own conference tourney)....

I've said in years past, the OAC teams need to schedule more difficult opponents on a consistent basis.

Some thoughts about the OAC tournament. 

BW is a dangerous team without a top tier pitcher.  They can swing it a lot.  But their pitching (despite only giving up a 3 run homer in their second loss) was probably the worst of the four teams.  Waite's disappearance from that elite status from the prior year was a big difference in their season this year. 

Berg has two arms and not much else on the staff.  Motorman eluded to this earlier, and I completely agree.  Manner has put up good numbers but he is far from dominant.  He is a good #2 guy though and will make them a tough out in game two of any tournament.  Beyond that, the Berg faithful better hope they can bash their way through a game after game three.  Hendrixson is probably the best pitcher in the OAC.  He is really good.  You would have to feel pretty good about any game he starts being a W. 

Marietta's pitching is so wildly inconsistent it is hard to know what to expect.  Even Herstine had a less than optimal outing in his start in the OAC.  Crowl is effective and solid one day, the next teams hit him quite easily.  Same can be said for many of the other guys on the staff.  One day they are great, the next day they are woefully mediocre.  Fortunately for the Pioneers the bats came alive in a big enough way to get the wins needed (and once they stopped trying to give games away.....Have never seen the likes of outfield errors by a Marietta team.  Very uncharacteristic).

Best of luck to all of the OAC schools as they head into Regional play.

Well it is easier to have a SOS playing in the OAC, Yes you have Cap, Muskee and Wilm. But then you have Berg, ONU, Matietta, and John Carroll. And some years you can include Mount. I know ONU used to not be on that list but I cannot see them dropping out anytime soon. Your SOS, I believe, and may be wrong, is against teams in your region. So having that lineup in your conference helps. Plus the fact you play round Robin DH. In the NCAC you are stuck with the teams in your division and you play them 16 times. That really hurts your SOS. I agree Wooster did not do themselves any favors. scheduling the likes of North Park, Pitt Bradford, and Olivet. But the way the NCAC is set up it can be hard to get an appropriate SOS. Especially since SOS is calculated against teams in your region:
Strength-of-schedule (only contests versus regional competition).

Not that I thought Wooster would get the nod after the NCAC tourney.

Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 12, 2015, 12:24:49 pm »
NCAC team announced.

Kevin Zullo gets Pitcher of the year AND New comer of the year.

Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 12, 2015, 11:41:20 am »
Really disappointed the committee did not select Wooster for the post season.  They had the second most wins in the country at 36.  I realize their SOS was not good, but you still have to win games without slumping to get to that amount of wins.  As Bishop stated, the NCAC conference schedule really weakened the overall SOS for the everyone in the conference.  Their Florida schedule did not help much either, but Wooster's OOC schedule once they got back to Ohio was strong.

Wooster had the #1 scoring offense in the country, which should carry a little cache with the committee.  You can say that had to do with their SOS, however, they played the top 5 teams in the OAC and those games help RAISE their runs per game average, scoring an average of 15.4 runs per game in those games.  I guess beating the OAC regular season champion 16-8 and the OAC tournament champion 19-8 did not carry enough weight with the selection committee, either.

In the end, all they had to do was take care of business against Oberlin.  I understand that point completely, it does not need to be re-stated.  Oberlin took 2 out of 3 against #1 (West division) seed DePauw, beat #2 (East Div) seed Allegheny, and beat Wooster 2 out of 3.  They are clearly playing significantly better than an 18-26 team.  But it does not change the fact that Wooster had the opportunity to take care of business and did not do it.

So is Wooster a better team if they played the top 6 teams in the country and if they lost to them all to finish 30-15, but with a respectable strength of schedule?  It does not seem logical, but that seems to be the message the committee is putting out.  I know there are other factors involved, but the boys won 36 games, it's a tough pill to swallow. 

Sour grapes.  I know.  You can call it that. 

OWU's schedule is very similar to Woosters against OAC teams. It is what it is. One of the problems I have with the SOS is it is against teams in your region. Ohio Wesleyan played ST. John Fisher, and while they started slow they finished strong with a decent win percentage, but OWU does not get the benefit of that because SJF is in the New York region. Also when you start winning, it can be tough to schedule good teams, in season. We had several games we could not make up against teams, on our schedule, with good win %, and ended up scheduling  additional games against the likes of Cap. One team canceled a late season game with us, not weather related, and again all we could find to play us was Cap.
Until more teams in the NCAC regularly beat the better OAC teams we are going to have this issue. Usually there are two good NCAC teams and the rest are middling to bad. Last year it was Denison  and Wooster. This year it was Ohio Wesleyan and Wooster.

Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2015, 07:19:44 pm »
A full round robin was tried back in 2011. Wabash for example played a DH at Hiram on Saturday and a DH against  Allegheny on Sunday. From what I understand the west teams wanted to continue round robin, and thought they had the votes, until one of the east coaches was swayed to vote the other way, at the last minute.

Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2015, 03:43:43 pm »
Oberlin and Kenyon being what they were and the Gators having a not so great record, really hurt Wooster. Same thing happened to OWU. We had a really good SOS before starting conference play and then we watched it plummet. I thought the NCAC was on an upward swing with DePauw and Denison getting better the last couple of years, but both took a step back this year.

Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2015, 12:34:42 pm »
23-6 Wooster over the Obies.  Get ready for another butt kicking

Who's butt? 4-2 Oberlin top of 4.
Wooster had to beat Oberlin twice. They won the first game 23-6, but could not come back and win the second.

Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 11, 2015, 12:33:05 pm »
Yes it is incredibly hard to get in the loser bracket and comeback and win. Wooster kind of did it to themselves. I would think that you would do whatever you could to stay in the winners bracket. Wooster in their second game started a young man who had only pitched 9 innings all year. I understand why they did it. They had swept Oberlin during the regular season. It is pretty well known hat Oberlin does not have a lot of pitching depth. They probably thought they could get by with a second line starter and save their other guy for the championship.
I have to give props to Oberlin pitcher Sean Kiley. He pitched very well and hit his spots. He is a control guy it looked like Wooster hitters were getting frustrated. OWU did the same thing against Wooster, when we pitched Trevor Ray. He is a control guy as well and kept Wooster off balance for most of the day.

Allegheny was holding their graduation on Saturday. Wooster and OWU are on Sunday and Obelin is not until May 22. If the Gators had not made the tourney I believe we would have scheduled into Saturday. I was hoping once Allegheny was eliminated that they would update the schedule. Unfortunately they did not. They have in the past.

I am not quite ready to talk about OWU's elimination. Still too fresh.

Pro ball / Re: BB: D-3 Players in minor leagues/MLB
« on: May 06, 2015, 07:56:21 pm »
With whats going on in Cinci, I am not surprised. I will be very surprised if Cueto, or Leake are still Reds after the trade deadline.

New England Region / Re: D3 Players in Summer Leagues
« on: May 06, 2015, 04:13:26 pm »
The recruiting Coordinator for UT-Dallas was an assistant coach in Cotuit, a couple of years ago. He had just finished up an assistant coach stint at Denison. So the Kettleers at least trust D3 assistants.

Central Region / Re: BB: MWC: Midwest Conference
« on: May 06, 2015, 04:07:10 pm »

he said bad words.

Hard to believe this is what the world of College Athletics has come to.

I agree, I am sure that my son has heard pretty harsh language over the years. I know his HS coach could really rip some off. I feel most players that can make it to college should be sued to it by now.
As per the article , it is made to look like it was the coaches decision to take time off.
“Ultimately, coach Cruise felt he needed some time to work on his own professional development and let emotions settle before returning to the field and the administration supported his decision. At this point in time, we want to place the focus back on baseball and winning games.”

My guess it was strongly suggested by the admin.

South Region / Re: BB: USAC: USA South Athletic Conference
« on: May 06, 2015, 03:15:41 pm »
We were discussing this on the NCAC board as well. There is no particular order to the Primary criteria, except how the individual voters personally rank them. So it depends on the voter. I do think most voters hold SOS in to high of a regard.

North Region football / Re: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: May 06, 2015, 11:36:11 am »
That leads me to a question about coaching in general. In baseball if you want to coach college it is better to not take a HS gig. But to start out as an unpaid assistant or Graduate assistant at the college level. There are so many of those guys out there getting College level experience, that when a paid job opens up it is more likely that a guy who has been at the college level gets the job over a HS guy. Does the same hold true in College. Or do colleges, especially at this level, look to the HS level just as likely as the College level?

Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 05, 2015, 06:43:40 pm »
Well Dr. We play Wooster at 10 am Thursday.  Your point about the west is accurate.  Thats why I would like to see round robin in the NCAC. But that wont happen. I understand the difficulty of making that happen.

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