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West Region / Re: BB: Top Teams in West Region
« on: April 09, 2015, 02:11:37 pm »
Well you say the west is generally better top to bottom. Is part of that because they get more time outside? Get more practices per Game?

There are deserving teams that get left home every year, in almost every region, this is not just a west regional issue.

Currently winning percentage is not one of the criteria I believe. Otherwise many of the east teams would load up on tomato cans and come in with unbelievable records, there would be a lot more 30 win teams out East, so if win percentage were a criteria I am not sure that would result in 6 west teams in the regional.

Yes the a national opening day (I do not want one, by the way) would not change things for the Northern teams, but it would give the west some of the same disadvantages that the east has, sort of leveling the playing field.

Westside it sounds like you want to use the eye test, correct me if I am wrong. There is no way the eye test could be used on a National level. I know having SOS as a criteria is problematical and due to geography the West SOS is driven toward 500. I am not sure there is a good fix that will make anyone happy.

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Open Dates / Re: Bard College MBB Looking For Scrimmage
« on: April 09, 2015, 12:50:07 pm »
Bard,
You posted this on the Baseball open dates, you may want to post on the basketball open dates:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?board=1469.0

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West Region / Re: BB: Top Teams in West Region
« on: April 09, 2015, 12:47:18 pm »
TexasBB,
I have to disagree, yes the west is geographically challenged, which is a disadvantage, but this over looks other advantages the west AND south usually have over the the Northern colleges. Generally the west schools can start much sooner and spread their games out. If you include practices, the west and south gets much more outside baseball in than the northern schools. The spirit of D3 is inclusion, You do not treat student athletes different than non athletes. You do not have separate rules from one region to another.  That is D3.
This has been discussed many times over the years. So while the west may be spread out, and the north and east compact, the west has a longer season time wise, and the North and East season is shorter.
The rules have to apply the same to all. Last year UW-stevens point almost got through the west, they played in the championship, and while IWU was 2 and que, they lost 1 run games. If the teams flown in were getting blown out, then the NCAA should look at how they pick teams, but last year anyway, the west regional was competitive, with two northern teams.
If they make adjustments for the west because of the Geographic issues, what concessions would they make to the other regions? Do they correct the weather issues by having a national opening day? Lets say March first. No games are to be played before that date and practices cannot start until February? No, I am sure the presidents in the west would not want to do that. Those young men would miss too much school.
In other words you want to guarantee the west two pool C bids?
There is no good way to fix it. It is what it is.

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West Region / Re: BB: Top Teams in West Region
« on: April 08, 2015, 09:20:33 pm »
Crash, any real fix is going to cost $$ you are right. So we deal with what we have. It could be worse. What if pool c went away, and you were left with pool A and B.

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West Region / Re: BB: Top Teams in West Region
« on: April 08, 2015, 05:59:36 pm »

So by that reasoning the other regions should get the same consideration. With that logic some pretty sucky teams may get to regional's, every year. I for one do not like it. There have been teams in the past that have gone to a regional outside their area and done well.  Or should this rule only be in for the west? Sorry if I am misinterpreting the Smileys.
Bishops Dad,
Welcome to the West Region,

We are kinda orphans out here.

Last year, the committee flew 2 outsiders to McMinnville.

Here is the link.

http://www.linfield.edu/sports/2014mcminnvilleregional.html.

IWU went 2 and BBQ.

UW-Stevens Point lost in the Finals to Linfield, but every UWSP game had a margin of 3 runs or less.

In 2013, every game in the West Regional was decided by 2 runs or less. Linfield won it all.  Here were the West Regional Teams.

 Linfield
 Cal Lutheran
 Texas-Tyler
 Pomona-Pitzer
 Trinity (Texas)
 Texas Lutheran

Thanks Ralph I follow the west region from a distance but I am aware of the challenges. I am not sure there is a fair way to resolve this issue though. Because D3 is so regional based, as by design, it is hard to compare teams from disparate regions. I am not sure saving the west regional for all west teams is the answer. What does the NCAA say to the other regions?
The most fair way to do it would to have regional's and super regional's etc. But the NCAA and most D3 colleges would never go for that. The season would probably have to be extended or start the tourney earlier and have kids missing school.
There are many advantages playing in the South and west, but their are disadvantages as well.

And while IWU was 2 and done, they lost 1 run games. So they were not exactly blown away.

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West Region / Re: BB: Top Teams in West Region
« on: April 08, 2015, 05:47:47 pm »
And of coarse the D3 poll has nothing to do with the Pool C selection process. The regional committee will rank the teams and send their Rankings to the National Committee. The National Committee will then choose the Pool C bids.



TexasBB,
You really will not like how the NCAC decides the pool A bid. The NCAC is split into two not because of size but more because of geographic footprint.
The last weekend of conference play is called the crossover series.
The number one seeds from the east and west host the 4 seeds from the other division.
The number two seeds host the 3 from the other division.

These are best of 3 series. So a 4 can knock out a 1 by getting hot for 2 games.
The winners from these series play each other in a double elimination tourney.


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West Region / Re: BB: Top Teams in West Region
« on: April 08, 2015, 11:32:52 am »
Forget the polls  ;D ???
Best 6 should go to the West Regional. No fly in's  :D
All conferences have Conference tourney's to determine Pool A bids in 2015

ASC
Concordia-Texas 21-6
Texas-Tyler 19-8

NWC
Pacific Lutheran 20-8
Linfield 21-9

SCAC
Texas Lutheran 20-9
Trinity 19-9

SCIAC 
Cal Lutheran 20-9
Chapman 20-9
Pomona-Pitzer 20-9
Redlands 20-9
So by that reasoning the other regions should get the same consideration. With that logic some pretty sucky teams may get to regional's, every year. I for one do not like it. There have been teams in the past that have gone to a regional outside their area and done well.  Or should this rule only be in for the west? Sorry if I am misinterpreting the Smileys.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 08, 2015, 11:27:44 am »
You are all correct. the Wabash Wooster conflagration, is considered OOC, so it will not effect the conference standing other than Win % which I beleive MAY BE one of the tie breakers. So there is only a indirect effect on the standings.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 07, 2015, 10:45:22 pm »
Ohio Wesleyan catcher Aaron Caputo named NCAC player of the week.
http://www.battlingbishops.com/news/2015/4/6/BA_04062015_1.aspx

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 07, 2015, 09:34:12 pm »
Zullo pitching for Ohio Wesleyan.
Baseball vs Ohio Christian 04-04-2015: http://youtu.be/KUVq0xsKRyQ

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 07, 2015, 07:06:16 am »
In D3 poll Wooster jumps to 17, and Ohio Wesleyan, makes their first appearance with 13 votes.

Road, I have to agree, I am interested to see how Wooster does against that competition. Ohio Wesleyan has played those teams. It wil make a nice comparison.

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Mid-East Region / Re: Mid-East Region 2014
« on: April 06, 2015, 03:45:12 pm »
Good luck. I wish we would have scheduled Case this year. Looks likenour game against ODU is unlikely. Maybe case can be a make up game.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: OAC: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: April 05, 2015, 11:31:41 pm »
One of Frostburgs players, was at OWU, his freshman year. He left after getting a good bit of pitching time, because he wanted to be a two way player and thought he would be at Frostburg. Long story short, he is still  a P.O. And not getting too may innings.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 05, 2015, 09:43:39 pm »
It is not a good thing that the two teams at the bottom also have the worst strength of schedule.
Gheny really stepped up with a tough schedule. Wooster being 18-3 helps the East teams SOS.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 05, 2015, 09:36:02 pm »
I am looking at the NCAC teams SOS.
http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2015/schedule?tmpl=sos-template

Team SOS Rank
Allegheny 12
Ohio Wesleyan 69
Hiram 113
Wabash 123
DePauw 148
Kenyon 159
Denison 248
Wooster 256
Wittenberg 282
Oberlin 314
Thoughts?

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