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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 03, 2013, 01:34:52 pm »
OWU beats Capital last night. 5-4. OWU used a bunch of Bench guys who had not seen much playing time during the year. They did well. Nice to see Seffermick (Fr) go 5 innings with 3 earned runs on 7 hits. He hadn't seen a start or innings since Florida.

I think Capital has an outside chance of getting into THe OAC tourney. They play 2 Against Heidi on Saturday, so I cannot be sure if we saw there best pitching. I have to imagine that we were seeing their regular lineup though.

A lot of good performances from some young bishops.



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Mid-East Region / Re: The Race for the 2013 Regional Births.
« on: May 02, 2013, 10:49:02 pm »


Case has decided that they prefer the Pool B\C route. Otherwise they would lobby to join a Pool A conference (Cough,NCAC,cough) and take a shot at Pool A. Case has chosen what they feel is best for all their sports. It is what it is.



When the affiliation with PAC for football was announced, I inquired whether consideration had been given to baseball affiliation as well.  I was told it was an interesting thought, but was not under consideration.  PAC has an odd number of teams.
+1 ADL, I had forgotten about the PAC affiliation. Case was a founding member of the NCAC and a part of the conference for 15 years till they left in 1999

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: OAC: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: May 02, 2013, 12:54:15 pm »
Ouch.  JCU  :o

Wooster eeks out 'Berg in extras. 

Last weekend coming up...Prediction time.

Biggest Series of the weekend:  Otterbein and BW-Otterbein needs at least one in this series.  BW is playing for pride as their season ends Saturday.  Both of these teams were very erratic on offense when I saw them.  Their pitching was adequate.  BW's defense left much to be desired.  Toughey and Meadows are legitimate candidates for POY in the league.  If Otterbein gets swept they could still get in to the tournament but will have to do some scoreboard watching along the way.  I think both were a bit inflated by early season cupcake schedules, and I'm not sure there is a big difference between either.  My prediction....BW takes two in Westerville.

Marietta and Wilmington.  Marietta could (not saying they will) save their top arms for CWRU on Saturday and still win handily.  Marietta sweeps with little trouble.
JCU and Northern.  Dorring and O'Brien are en fuego on the hill.  Northern may not score more than 2 runs in 16 innings against those two.  JCU wins two.
Mount and Muskingum.  Mount must win one to clinch their spot for next weekend. Noticed where Muskinum scored 22 runs against Ohio Wesleyan.  They are bipolar, but mostly not particularly good.  Mount does its job and wins two.
Heidelberg and Capital.  Both teams are 7-9 in league play.  If either wants any chance to make the tournament, they have to win two games.  It is really unfortunate that the injury bug bit 'Berg as hard as it did.  I really thought they would be a serious contender to be hosting next weekend.  'Berg has too much pitching depth, and cap is not particularly strong offensively.  Heidelberg get's a chance to sneak in the back door, but will end up finishing their season on Saturday.  Heidelberg sweeps.

I agree they are not particularly good. Not that we are any better right now, not saying that we deserved this loss.
Here comes the BUT,
The pitchers they faced are not particularly tough, almost the same group that Cap faced last week. There era is as follows
 8.57   
 5.40       
 6.00   
 6.75
Some with limited innings. We rare throw a weekend starter on Weds games. Day two starters may get some innings tonight. It is possible we could have been more competitive if we had used other pitchers. I said it earlier. Where pitching was going to be a strength early in the year it has now become a weakness and we just are not deep enough.
Congrats to Muskingum.

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Mid-East Region / Re: The Race for the 2013 Regional Births.
« on: May 02, 2013, 12:36:50 pm »
Lets face it, the tournament is not about the best teams. Most of the best teams get in but as long as it is set up the way it is for equal access it will not be that way. Their will be Not so good Pool A teams from Bad pool A conferences pushing out deserving Pool C candidates. And it gets worse when their is a upset in a pool A tourney and the best team gets knocked out and takes their superior numbers into Pool C.

Case has decided that they prefer the Pool B\C route. Otherwise they would lobby to join a Pool A conference (Cough,NCAC,cough) and take a shot at Pool A. Case has chosen what they feel is best for all their sports. It is what it is.

If they have the numbers and their are not too many upsets they have a chance.

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Mid-East Region / Re: The Race for the 2013 Regional Births.
« on: May 02, 2013, 10:54:34 am »
Yes the UAA has a tournament in the spring
University of Rochester, Case, Emory, Bradies and  Washington U go down south and play. Chicago does not participate because there spring break is a different date than the other UAA schools.

Wash U and Case shared the title.

http://www.uaa.rochester.edu/weekly_sport_updates/BB_Update.html

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 02, 2013, 10:44:42 am »
I can remember a time when in baseball it was Wooster, Allegheny, and OWU, then a bunch of garbage.  Wittenberg occaisionally put together a competitive team, but not very often.  Those three dominated the NCAC and regularly sent two teams to the regionals.  While I admit I don't follow the conference very closely, I have noticed that Allegheny, until this year, had fallen on hard times.  That alone upset the competitive balance for baseball.  Then when you add in quality teams like DePauw and Wabash, it makes it even more unbalanced. 

Blame Allegheny.  It's all their fault. ;)

Round robin would be a better way to go.  It's a 10 team conference, why have divisions in the first place?  Sure the trip from Meadville to Wabash or DePauw is not pleasant, but you don't have to schedule that for Wednesday night.  Play on Saturday.  (They don't usually schedule Marietta to go to Tiffin to play Heidelberg for mid week games either). 

It's still Allegheny's fault. (What was the name of the coach who was there for years?  His son was a thirdbaseman and committed an NCAA record for errors in a regional game against Marietta one year in the reional final).
The thing is all the conference games are played as double headers on the weekends. All week day games are non-conference. So I really do not see a reason not to play. They were able to get round robin for one season. After that season they lost the votes of several teams in the east. If there are any upsets this weekend I think there will be a push to drop the cross over games. I really do not think that the west will vote to go back to the top two seeds from the two divisions.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: May 02, 2013, 12:13:01 am »
I do not believe this is about giving more teams exposure to the tournament. I don't like this much either. That's why I prefer a round robin instead of two divisions. There is a perceived imbalance between east and west divisions. For a long time their has been a belief in the west that the best four teams have not been in the tournament. I am not saying that Wooster did not belong, but that the second seed in the east may not have been as good as the third in the west. Many in the west consider it a tougher road. We do not have the likes of Hiram. And Oberlin is having their best year with 18 wins. And then replacing Earlham with Depauw, really tipped the scales. Can any body argue that the two divisions are balanced?
Round robin was only tried one year. I think this was put in place to try and even that balance.

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Mid-East Region / Re: The Race for the 2013 Regional Births.
« on: April 30, 2013, 11:14:59 am »
Glad to see more NCAC teams your ranking.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: OAC: Ohio Athletic Conference
« on: April 30, 2013, 09:29:22 am »
Etta,
I do not believe it was JCU's decision. When Hiram Kenyon was postponed on Sunday, Hiram had to cancel with JCU to complete the games against Kenyon. I think Kenyon insisted because if they take two more from Hiram they are tied for third in the east. This is big because it is the difference of playing Denison or Witt in the cross over to get to the NCAC tournament.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 30, 2013, 09:21:23 am »
Rollie,
Looks like Allegheny and Wooster wont make up their final game. That gives Allegheny a better winning percentage and 2nd place, 9-6 is better than 9-7. Sneaky, I wonder how Kenyon and Oberlin feel about that.

If Allegheny played Wooster and lost and Kenyon picks up 2 against Hiram, that would put Allegheny, Kenyon and Oberlin all at 9-7. This would have resulted in a 3 way tie for Second.

The tie breaker would have indeed become a coin flip. Although I am not sure how they would have handled that with three teams. Because all three teams would have split their series and all would have been 1-3 against Wooster.


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Mid-East Region / Re: The Race for the 2013 Regional Births.
« on: April 29, 2013, 09:42:20 pm »
Quote
North Coast Conference

I am not sure what is going on with the NCAC tournament race, apparently I am confused about the meaning of their crossover games scheduled for the upcoming weekend.  I'm trying to get clarification as to what it means for their conference tournament and implications on their Pool A births.

East:
Wooster 12-3 (#4 in region)
Allegheny 9-6
Oberlin 9-7
Kenyon 7-7
Hiram 0-14

West
Denison 10-6
Wittenberg 8-8
OWU 8-8
DePauw 8-8
Wabash 6-10

I'm trying to clarify what is going on with the crossover games for the weekend.  But the matchups (according to Bishop Lefties Dad) are:  #1W Denison vs. 4E Kenyon, 2W Depauw vs 3E Oberlin, 3W OWU vs 2E Allegheny, 4W Wittenberg vs. 1E Wooster.  According to the same poster, these are best of three series with the winners advancing on to the NCAC tournament.

Wooster went 2-2 last week in region, losing a key game to Marietta (#1 in region).
Denison went 3-1 in region and had their game vs. Case cancelled.

Key non-conference, in region matchups this week:

Dension vs. #1 Marietta
#4 Wooster vs. #9 JCU
I had the tie breakers wrong. The west is set for seeding the cross overs.
1. Denison
2. Witt
3. Depauw
4. OWU
5. Wabash

The east still needs to make up some games. Only seedings set are Wooster at 1 and Hiram at 5. Just need  to finish the games to seed the rest.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 29, 2013, 09:31:57 pm »
looks like the tie breakers were reversed.
First is head to head.
Records of the three tied.
Depauw and Witt are 5-3
Owu is 3-5.

OWU is fourth.
Witt beat Depauw 3 out of 4 so Witt gets second Depauw third.

Looks like thet are going to play the rain delayed games in the east after all. Third and fourth are up in the air in the east.

Current standings
West
1. Denison
2. Witt
3. Depauw
4. OWU
5. Wabash

East
1. Wooster
2. Allegeny
3. Oberlin
4. Kenyon
5. hiram

Kenyon has two makeups against Hiram. If they win both of those they tie with Oberlin. Allegheny has one to make up with Wooster. That would make for a three way tie for second at 9-7.
We will have to wait for those games to finish to to figure the tie breaker.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 29, 2013, 02:44:52 pm »
All my posts may be for naught. Currently Woosters and OWU's schedule has Wooster vs OWU in the cross over. That would mean OWU finished fourth. Not all the schedules are updated so who knows. My guess is they are still arguing over the results. Nothing is final till the weekly release and the schedule is updated on NCAC's sight.

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 29, 2013, 02:30:49 pm »
The NCAC must be having trouble figuring it out. I expected it to be released as part of all the weekly releases. Looks like all the sports except baseball have have posted their weekly release. ::)

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Mid-East Region / Re: BB: NCAC: North Coast Athletic Conference
« on: April 29, 2013, 12:16:01 pm »
OWU and Kenyon would also have been done.
Yeah I agree. I would like to see round robin again. Maybe this can make it happen. This is how it was explained to me but everyone knows how closed the NCAC is with tiebreakers etc.... So I only have so much faith in this till I see it posted by the NCAC.

I remember in Football last year no one could get an answer on the tie breakers form the NCAC, but it all worked it self out.

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