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As for Plattsburgh not hosting over Swarthmore... the criteria gives this to Swarthmore over Platt. I saw that as an easy decision between the two. FYI - winning your conference has NOTHING to do with this process and we shouldn't reference it. If that was the case, should Southern Vermont have hosted and not traveled to Wesleyan in the first weekend?

I wasn't insinuating that was the reason Plattsburgh didn't host - I get that they would probably not have even been second in line based on ranking.  I was just saying that them not hosting was not because of other activities on campus.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2018 NCAA Tournament
« on: March 06, 2018, 06:56:23 am »
I hate the idea that any conference winner would be excluded from the tourney. Now, if a 1-bid league wants to enhance its chances, it may wish to not have a tourney so the champ gets in automatically.

I also abhor the fact that two of the 'play-in' games in the D1 tourney are 16-seeds. Let them in, and have the last eight at large teams battle it out.

I'm all for this!  I'd rather make all the 12 seeds (the 16-12 ACC or SEC teams squeaking in because we need to fill the bracket) play those elimination games instead of the conference champion 16 seeds.  That said, the play-in gives those 16 seeds the opportunity to win a game in the NCAA tourney!

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Women's hockey / Re: 2018 Bracketology
« on: March 05, 2018, 02:17:16 pm »
            NOR     PLT
WIN      .911    .889 (slight edge to Norwich)
SOS      .534    .613 (huge edge to Plattsburgh)
RNK      .688    .643 (slight edge to Norwich)
H2H      .500    .500 (complete wash!)

I was still hoping Plattsburgh might get the #1 position - I won't be able to make the trip to Northfield if both teams win this weekend! 

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Wondering if Plattsburgh women having to host hockey next weekend may be a reason for the 412 mile road trip?

No.  This weekend Plattsburgh hosted the basketball regional, women's hockey conference championship game, and three high school sectional championship games.  Besides, the basketball team and the hockey teams play in separate buildings.  Would not have been a challenge to host both.

Some years the committee won't send a sectional some place that's already hosting other events.  They don't want to run the risk of the hosts being short staffed - don't know if that's part of things this year or not, but it is sometimes a consideration.

As of right now, Plattsburgh isnít hosting anything else.  The womenís hockey team is line to host a QF game next week, but the bracket isnít announced until tomorrow.

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Wondering if Plattsburgh women having to host hockey next weekend may be a reason for the 412 mile road trip?

No.  This weekend Plattsburgh hosted the basketball regional, women's hockey conference championship game, and three high school sectional championship games.  Besides, the basketball team and the hockey teams play in separate buildings.  Would not have been a challenge to host both.

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Ramapo has announced itís hosting its regional.  No word from anyone else yet.....

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Men's hockey / Re: 2018 Men's Bracketology
« on: March 03, 2018, 11:10:37 pm »
So, I noticed that New England lost tonight, does that mean Hobart has a chance to move up to #2 in East and get a bye?

Possibly host Geneseo in the first round with the winner headed to Michigan to face Adrian in a QF?  Courtesy the NCAA travel rule?

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2018 NCAA Tournament
« on: March 03, 2018, 11:06:28 pm »
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Plattsburgh probably deserves to host, but will they bid? They're going to have NCAA women's hockey at their rink next weekend for sure, but that's just one game.

They didn’t have any problems hosting under these conditions this weekend (plus hosting 3 high school sectional basketball games).  The hockey and basketball teams don’t play in the same building.

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Women's hockey / Re: 2018 Bracketology
« on: March 03, 2018, 11:33:23 am »
Do you think William Smith has a chance of gaining a Pool C if they win their tournament, including  wins over Stevenson and  Elmira...they are 0-1-1 against Elmira with a one goal loss, so it is possible. But with only 2 Pool C's can they make it if Conn Colleges loses in the first round of the NESCAC? It would be great for the 4 year old program .

William Smith has a huge hill to climb since they aren't even ranked right now.  I would say they have almost no shot.  It'll be a nice cap to their season, but it would end even with the league championship.

It would be a HUGE deal to win a league championship.  How long have they had a team?
Thanks.Makes sense with so few spots available, although just winning the league tournament would be nice .

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Women's hockey / Re: 2018 Bracketology
« on: March 02, 2018, 02:21:46 pm »
Do you think William Smith has a chance of gaining a Pool C if they win their tournament, including  wins over Stevenson and  Elmira...they are 0-1-1 against Elmira with a one goal loss, so it is possible. But with only 2 Pool C's can they make it if Conn Colleges loses in the first round of the NESCAC? It would be great for the 4 year old program .

William Smith has a huge hill to climb since they aren't even ranked right now.  I would say they have almost no shot.  It'll be a nice cap to their season, but it would end even with the league championship.

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Women's hockey / Re: 2018 Bracketology
« on: March 02, 2018, 11:09:53 am »
The SOS differential between Norwich and Plattsburgh is .518 v .549.  Neither is a real anomaly high or low and with so few losses on each teams sheet I think it loses some weight.  You could make a case for either team but the reality is Norwich has a slightly better record and the SOS isn't enough to tip the rating up or down. 

If there are no upsets the ratings look pretty stable at the top in the east.  With the Adrian travel "problem" the east coast team get a much easier path to the frozen four than the west.  His prediction of a 2 seed in the east drawing a 4 seed is pretty spot on.  The 2 should draw the 3 but with the 9th team and Adrian's travel issue the west gets the short end of the stick with the top three seeds fighting for 1 frozen four berth.  The only hope for the west to avoid this is for Adrian to be upset in their conference tourney and not get an A pool bid.

This year being a 1 or 2 seed in the east is a good place to be.  You get the lower ranked teams in your regional and a pretty clear path to the Frozen Four which will likely have 3 of 4 from the east this year.

Except the SOS difference is bigger than you state:  It's .610 to .529 right now and Plattsburgh will get a better boost (less of a hit?) to their SOS with their championship game (against Oswego) than Norwich will (against UMass-Boston).

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Women's hockey / Re: 2018 Bracketology
« on: March 02, 2018, 08:44:09 am »
Homer question:

I was just looking at the comparison between Norwich and Plattsburgh.  Norwich has a slight lead in WIN (by one game) and RNK (Plattsburgh has one more loss).  Plattsburgh has a sizable lead in SOS.  Is it complete homerism to think that the NCAA usually weighs a large SOS lead more favorably than they are here?

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Women's hockey / 2018 Bracketology
« on: March 02, 2018, 08:40:23 am »
Since I know you aren't busy or anything, guys, I was wondering if a third women's bracketology was in the works this week?  I don't always comment on them, but I definitely always read them...

Steve Wood

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: March 01, 2018, 09:28:48 pm »
Also, let's not pretend the national tournament in any NCAA sport in any division is designed to get the best teams in the tournament. It isn't the best 64... it can't be when you use AQs for bids. It never was designed as such, it won't change. This isn't the pros... and even they don't get the best X amount of teams in their tournaments either.

You can question the system all you want. The system is always being tweaked to make it the best possible system to be used. It has come a long way and we are far removed from the old days when it was the old boys network at best. There are multiple ways to get into the tournament... the landscape is very transparent. It isn't like we get that many surprises each year.

Funny how Matt Webb has to annually make that same statement on d3hockey.com too!  Feels like some people donít want to understand the process - just complain about it!

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Men's hockey / Re: 2018 Men's Bracketology
« on: February 28, 2018, 12:51:30 pm »
Looking forward to the next Bracketology. In your opinion if Hobart loses to Norwich, as assumed in this scenario as Norwich is the assumed Conference champ , won't that impact the final RR and wouldn't Hobart slip in the final east rankings? I am thinking they need to beat Norwich to get a home game ....which would leave Norwich out and another team gets in. I yield to your experience on this analysis. I just didn't want to assume if they lose, that Hobart would get a first round home game, although they should still get a road berth at this point.

Because of Adrian, it's likely that Hobart and the lowest SUNYAC team (Geneseo or Buffalo St) are going to play in the first round.  I suppose it's possible Geneseo, with a win and Hobart loss, could move ahead of the Statesmen.  In that scenario, Hobart would be playing at Geneseo (or possibly even at Oswego).

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