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East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 27, 2016, 07:36:56 pm »
Cortland wins 77-74! What a comeback again! SUNYAC 3????

Yes Sunyac 3 bids!!!

Are we sure about this?  It would seem Rochester and Plattsburgh are going to keep Oswego away from the table for awhile.  Not a good day for the bubble...

Women's hockey / Re: 2016 Bracketology
« on: February 24, 2016, 01:25:25 pm »
I would say that really sucks is too bad for Elmira and Adrian (but especially for Elmira)...  I was afraid that was the case...

Men's hockey / Re: 2016 Bracketology
« on: February 24, 2016, 08:50:38 am »
Second Bracketology is up and hard to argue with the field or how the bracket fell.  One question though, the article compares three teams for two spots.  In the actual process, does it work like bouncy ball that only the top team left in each region is up for comparison?  (i.e. that Buffalo doesn't come to the table until Trinity is placed in the field)?

Women's hockey / Re: 2016 Bracketology
« on: February 24, 2016, 08:37:03 am »
My thoughts on the brackets after the 2nd NCAA rankings.

NESCAC loser @ Plattsburgh
Norwich @ Adrian
NESCAC winner @ Elmira
St. Thomas @ River Falls

Possibly switch the NESCAC loser and Norwich.  This is if bracket integrity means anything.  Having #2 v. #3 play a QF game (which would seem to be the only way to avoid flights) isn't a great scenario.  This isn't perfect either, but I like it better than Adrian and Elmira playing in the first round.

East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 21, 2016, 05:39:03 pm »

Much thanks All-Time. I must admit, the Sunyac family has never been stronger. After game Oneonta coach Medici wished Bengal coaches the best of luck and encouraged Bengals coaches to " go get em" in the playoffs!! Friday night, before tip-off, New Paltz coach Rejniak walked down to Bengals bench, and offered Bengal coaches condolences and mentioned how tough a year it's been for all of Sunyac. After game ( which was attended by over 2,000 people and every media outlet in WNY), along with Bradleys family (who were recognized at halftime), Rejniak encouraged each Bengal coach and player to win Saturday to get to the playoffs!  Class act by both coaches this weekend under difficult circumstances for everyone, and especially a visiting team!

I'm honored to be part of the SUNYAC fellowship like the 1 we have here fellas.  Honored and proud to know all of you!


In the SUNYAC family vein, before last night's Plattsburgh/Geneseo hockey game, Plattsburgh presented a check to Geneseo for $1500 as a donation to the Geneseo Volunteer Fire Department in honor of Matthew Hutchinson murdered earlier this year.  It's been a rough year across the SUNY family, but as with any stong family, the adversity has only made us stronger.

Women's hockey / Re: 2016 Bracketology
« on: February 20, 2016, 07:24:53 am »
I'd like to know just how much this Adrian-LFC series moves the needle on the SOS portion of things before we go much further.

And especially with Amherst playing a 4-16-2 Wesleyan team this weekend, too.

Oh, I completely understand that the discussion Sunday is completely different than the discussion Thursday, but I was having fun with the numbers as we had them Thursday.  If Adrian wins again today, this conversation was really for fun.

Women's hockey / Re: 2016 Bracketology
« on: February 19, 2016, 12:29:25 pm »
I'm not saying your wrong.  You know the process better than I do, but if one team can win three out of four criteria (including H2H)), then why don't we just say SOS is king and everything else is secondary criteria?  I also don't agree with discounting the H2H meeting just because it was early in the year.

I'm just saying if I'm in the room looking at those numbers, I would pick Adrian and then Elmira.  All of this discussion is fun, but we'll know a lot more after the Lake Forest/Adrian games this weekend...

Men's hockey / Re: 2016 Bracketology
« on: February 19, 2016, 08:05:19 am »

Hopefully that made sense. That's the layman's explanation. Wiitala could probably give a pretty hardcore statistical version...

For the love of God, it's way to early to unleash the mad scientist on us!!!!

Women's hockey / 2016 Bracketology
« on: February 18, 2016, 05:04:19 pm »
The first Bracketology is posted for the 2016 tournament!  That sound you hear is Adrian's fans exploding over in Michigan!

My only question, though, is it that cut and dry for Elmira over Adrian for the first Pool C?  Adrian wins WIN and RNK.  I know Elmira wins SOS, but shouldn't Adrian's head-to-head win count for something here too?  I think Adrian would be my first Pool C, with Elmira clearly taking the second Pool C and Amherst being on the outside looking in....


Men's hockey / Re: 2016 Bracketology
« on: February 18, 2016, 08:17:17 am »
I'm just stunned at how low Plattsburgh's SOS is compared to the other teams, most notably the ones in their own league.  Buffalo?  I assume that Utica, Elmira, and St. Norbert is that much better than Williams and Norwich?  I hope Plattsburgh can improve the teams in their own tourney going forward as well...

Thanks for the hard work, Matt.  It's definitely appreciated!

East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 17, 2016, 02:16:24 pm »
New Regional Rankings have been released.

Plattsburgh State hangs onto their #1 ranking.

#1 Plattsburgh State
#2 Rochester
#3 Geneseo State
#4 Brockport State
#5 Oswego State
#6 NYU

Here's a link to the entire regional  rankings:

As I think they should have.  This looks about right, save the Lancaster Bible question.  For the record, the schedule you play has to count for something.  I don't have a problem with them not appearing in the NCAA rankings...

East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:52:01 am »
Terrible, selfish play by Cardinal player Jonathan Patron to get tossed from the game.  He threw the ball at the official after a foul call and deserved the ejection.  Oswego has gone on a 14-4 run since to make a one point game an 11 point game with 9:03 to go.

edit:  Now it's a 25-9 run...

He didn't throw the ball at the official he passed it to him rather firmly. Jon wasn't happy as that official had called him for 3 rather cheap fouls that were all highly questionable. He called 2 fouls on him early in the first half about 50 seconds apart limiting Jon's 1st half court time to 3 minutes. Then he calls another cheap foul on him and that's what precipitated the technical. Jon was getting banged pretty good inside with no calls on his end, so naturally he was upset at getting his 3rd foul from this same ref. Normally most refs would call a technical but I can't remember the last time time I've seen a ref eject someone from a game for being unhappy over a call and getting a little pissed off. This ref had Jon in his crosshairs from the moment the game started as he was an official at a game in Plattsburgh a few weeks ago and had words with the Coach concerning Jon, at that time. This ref was out to lunch the entire game and made a number of poor calls against both teams. He is without a doubt, the worst referee that has officiated games in Plattsburgh in the 40 plus years I've watched games in Memorial Hall. If we never see him again it will be too soon.

Having said that I don't think the 3 best refs in the world would have made a difference in the game tonight as Oswego State, and particularly Brian Sortino, were firing on all cylinders. When you nail 18 three pointers in a game and shoot better than 56% from downtown, you are usually going to win. Hats off to Oswego.       

He "passed it to him rather firmly"?  That's your defense?  I watched the game and while the officiating was less than ideal, players passing the ball that "firmly" at the official should be at least a technical every single time.  I am a Card alum, but the glasses aren't completely rose colored.  It was a one point game at the moment that happened and became a blowout afterwards.

Sorry, to me that play is inexcusable.  That said, there hasn't been any discipline issues with this team all year, so I would chalk this up as a bad night and move on to bigger and better things.  Maybe, just maybe, we'll get another shot at the Lakers...

East Region / Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« on: February 13, 2016, 05:25:47 pm »
Terrible, selfish play by Cardinal player Jonathan Patron to get tossed from the game.  He threw the ball at the official after a foul call and deserved the ejection.  Oswego has gone on a 14-4 run since to make a one point game an 11 point game with 9:03 to go.

edit:  Now it's a 25-9 run...

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: February 11, 2016, 11:08:32 am »
It is baffling to me that a team in the East like Lancaster Bible doesn't get in over a team that has 6-7 losses. I mean if a team that is undefeated cant get into the rankings that tells me the NCAA has to go back to the drawing board and find different criteria. Another example Penn St Behrend a team who was 19-1 going into the rankings in the Great Lakes cant get into the top 9 in there region!! I just think its a bit ridiculous that NCAA is rewarding teams that have a bunch of losses over teams that win the games on there schedule.

I get the SOS factor but reward teams that win there games. Its not like these teams can just go join the NESCAC or UAA OR SUNYAC.

Lancaster and Behrend also ranked top 15 and top 25 in the D3hoops poll.

rant over.

would love to here what people think

SOS has to be a factor.  In the case of Lancaster, their SOS is so weak that it does overcome their record.  I think it's widely believed that the teams ranked above them would probably have the same record if they played Lancaster's schedule.  Hey, if they win their league, they'll get their shot to prove everyone wrong...

Men's hockey / Re: 2015-16 Discussion
« on: January 30, 2016, 10:18:10 pm »
If that what's known in the business as a tease, I'm in...... I'd love to hear you expand on this, Mr. Webb!

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