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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 22, 2020, 03:44:26 pm »
I really hope I'm wrong but, I don't think we're getting football this year.

I have that feeling as well, but I also can see some professional leagues starting up, and even if they are without fans, if we go 3-4 months in a row with low numbers of cases and deaths, especially among young people, I think their may be a chance at something.  But you would need a good 3-4 months of a semi-opened up economy before anything will happen I agree.

You're never going to have d3 football without fans.

If the college isn't open due to health risks of people congregating in large groups, you can't have 250+ football players, coaches, staff all mingling during a game. Conversely, if the college is open because those health risks are mitigated, what's the harm in having fans there? At most campuses, dining halls and central campus buildings are apt to be more crowded than the football stands.

Well I'm saying that if pro leagues can have games without fans and no one starts to get sick again (testing will need to be a part of this obviously), then other things will start to open up.  D3 football is the place that really doesn't need any fans, because the games are pretty free to the student body anyway and finances aren't a concern.

But what you say about the campuses is the main issue I agree.  If college campuses aren't open, then there will be no sports.  I 100% agree with you there. 

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 22, 2020, 03:00:29 pm »
I really hope I'm wrong but, I don't think we're getting football this year.

I have that feeling as well, but I also can see some professional leagues starting up, and even if they are without fans, if we go 3-4 months in a row with low numbers of cases and deaths, especially among young people, I think their may be a chance at something.  But you would need a good 3-4 months of a semi-opened up economy before anything will happen I agree.

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 22, 2020, 01:03:55 pm »
Jack Morse 1894 (1) 2-3-1 .417
Wallis 1895 (1) 3-6-2 .364
Lewis Saunders 1896 (1) 0-8-1 .056

Was just looking through the Rochester football history books, and noticed that in 1895, the coach was just some one named man called "Wallis". That is pretty bad ass if you ask me.  Might be time to start bringing back one named coaches for this program?!?!

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 22, 2020, 08:17:28 am »
Wanted to get some thoughts on U of R as a program. I know it has a very good academic reputation. Team has seen to really hit the skids last 4 years. I know the new Coach did a great job at MIT and is only there 2 years, so it may take some time. I also know the conference is no cakewalk and is not very kind to a rebuild. Good friend of mine has a son considering the school and I wanted to get some opinions and insight. Pretty good mid size academic school with decent facilities that plays in a tough conference. They should be better, right? I recall reading about a bizarre incident a few years ago that may have caused some bad press? Please, weigh in here. Trying to gather some facts for a young man making a big decision. Thanks in advance.

I don't know too much about the Rochester football program, but in general it is a great school that is very well respected nationally.  The football program has been mediocre for about 30 years now.  I don't know the old coach Scott Greene at all, but he was there for a long time (local upstate kid who played d1 ball at Michigan State) and didn't do much with the program in terms of W/L records.  The kidnapping incident happened a while ago and although it was horrific, I'm not sure that has any effect on the program today in any way.

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 20, 2020, 09:39:55 am »
I'm not a fan of Sidearm. Their live stats are a PITA to view and get data from, but they're an Upstate based co so not surprised they got Union to sign up.

Hobart released it's schedule today. Basically same as last year / flipped of course, but with two new adds:

Wk 1 FNL game @ Alfred
Wk 2 vs. Morrisville
Wk 3 @ Rowan
Wk 4 vs. Keystone (Homecoming game)
Wk 5 vs. Union
Wk 6 @ RPI
Wk 7 vs. IC
Wk 8 BYE
Wk 9 @ SLU (this could be a sneaky great game)
Wk 10 @ Buff St
Wk 11 vs. UofR
I really hope we can fiqure out a way to balance recovering from the pandemic and the strong mitigation we have endured with opening up the colleges and universities and getting back to playing sports. Attending college is only four wonderful years in your life and these poor student athletes have really been short changed and the next academic year will really be a challenge. I hope the administrators and trustees have the wisdom to establish the right balance of safety and activities  and undergrads have the discipline and maturity to keep the disease under wraps and make the best of their remaining years. We know the flu has been a serious problem at all colleges in recent years, so while this disease may not target this age group, I don't think you want to give it a chance. Colleges will really have to adopt new protocols for residences , classrooms , libraries and lockerrooms/practice for athletes. It will be a pain in the ass, but it will be necessary to make students and their parents comfortable this Fall. Football will be a particular challenge due to the intimacy of the competition(A new bubble helmet...a face shield like the hockey players have??). I would be interested to hear from some of the health care D3 fans and high school coaches that frequent the board what they think is possible. Is intense testing prior to games an answer and which test will work best, and is this really possible? I realize that it will also be a function of discovering more and better treatments when the disease rears its head(and it will, if only on an isolated basis) since having a vaccine is not imminent, and we can't wait for a vaccine to live our lives over the next 12-18 months(IMO). If a team has one case does that mean they cancel the next 2 weeks of practice and games?....I dunno , but we have to figure this out in the next 2-3 months so I can see Pep and his team under the lights in Mayberry for the first game of the year(with my special Bartman mask). I'd love to be totally pumped , but I am guarded due to the unknowns at present and don't want to get my hopes all the way up quite yet....but I am excited to think I have a chance to have my hopes elevated. I just want to hear the boys sing.... Raise the Orange and Purple High following the next win, hopefully against an old time rival under the lights in Mayberry on 9/4  ;D !

Well said Bartman.

I guess the question everyone is wondering is whether or not TOP numbers will be affected by this.  Could be a huge problem.

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The good news for Nescac - most of the crowds, in most of the non-Homecoming games, are already essentially socially-distanced events :).   If alums aren’t encouraged to return for Homecoming games this year, it would not be hard to have every contest feature widely-dispersed seating.  Especially since plenty of people will be inclined to avoid crowds without prompting if schools that feature expanded big-game seating configurations set those up for the entire season.

All of this of course assumes a far different disease trajectory, and far better, proven treatment protocols, by the fall .. barring that, there will be no fall sports.  Alas ..... :(.  I wonder if fall sports are cancelled how many football guys, especially senior stars like Maimaron, Jernigan, etc., will consider skipping the semester and graduating instead in fall 2021.  It would create the most loaded NESCAC football season ever, that is for sure.  But hope it doesn’t come to that.

Another good thing for the NESCAC is that NCAA football scheduling changes don't really impact them because they are an inclusive league.  Also hearing that applications for schools in NE and NY are down significantly because of the Covid hot spots, and this may impact schools in various ways.

Still so many unknowns at this point but I was thinking that some of these decisions might happen from the top down.  If the Patriots play (and I hear from official sources that masks will be required for large MA events through 2022), and have crowds, then Nescac schools will be able to play as well.  But the main thing for any college is whether or not students will be allowed back onto campuses at all. 

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East Region football / Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« on: April 15, 2020, 11:51:08 am »
From what I am hearing with the way things are breaking out in getting the country and economy slowly back into order most likely in May the NCAA is leaning currently towards an Oct 1 start for football. Cancel OOC games and strictly in conference and season may run a bit longer than normal. This way schools can gauge safety and getting students back in school and hopefully no flare ups virus wise. Not sure how this would work for schools below D 1-A with the playoff system. I am sure they are looking into it but haven't heard that part from people privy to conversations behind closed doors. To cancel the season would crush many schools budgets and the local impact on communities would be massive. Some schools like Univ of Cincinnati have already dropped men's soccer. Football pays the freight for all other sports and without that money many schools will be in danger of having to do the same. Hope everyone is healthy and stay safe.

That would make sense but there are still so many questions on any sports this fall.  If there is no vaccine, and someone on a team gets tested positive for the virus, are we doing things different on 10/1/20 than we are on 4/1/20? 

Also many random thoughts about why NY, NJ (then a big jump down to MI and MA) get hit so hard but Texas, Cali and Florida don't get much.  Do they get hit hard next year?  Wouldn't everybody have to do what we are doing now to make sure those places don't get hit hard?

Budgets are also interesting.  Does the SEC just start to do their own thing with other schools doing the same?  Cancelling a season at a place like Boston College is only going to "lose" them money if they keep paying everyone.  Boston College (and probably Cincinnati) doesn't make any money on football, but obviously collect revenue from games.  Cancelling an SEC season is going to lose money for everyone in the SEC (schools, workers, etc).

I think right now we are still in the middle of a lot of deaths, and until that drops below some magic number (10 a day?) I don't think we can guess what will happen.  But if I had to guess, a few restaurants might start to open up (families only, no bar), then maybe barber shops, etc, then gyms, then sports.  But man, I can't picture large crowds at large sporting events for a while.  I hope I'm wrong.

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 06, 2020, 10:41:27 am »
UNION FOOTBALL coach Behrman has named his captains for the 2020 season. All 5 are seniors.
C-  Ryan Ehrets
S-  Mark Zazarro
DL- Daniel Gioioso
LB- Colin Lama
QB- Will Bellamy

All but the underappreciated Zazzaro have been First Team All Liberty League selections...Of note: Lama and Gioisso were high school teammates at Xaverian Brothers, Ct.(nice get by the Union staff)

Let's hope we see these five on the field this fall.

FIRE THE CANNON

Minor detail but Xaverian is in Massachusetts (less than a mile from my house in fact).

Thanks Utah, my mistake. This gives me an opportunity to mention that Union RB Ike Irabor is yet another Xaverian,Mass product. Have the Bombers pulled any top recruits from your backyard recently?

No for some reason Ithaca does not recruit as hard in MA as they used to.  Coach Butterfield himself would be responsible for recruiting New England Prep schools and private schools.  Although Ithaca had a kicker/punter from Xaverian (Brian Fallon) who has done well athletically and academically, IC has focused more on PA.

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: April 04, 2020, 12:16:11 pm »
UNION FOOTBALL coach Behrman has named his captains for the 2020 season. All 5 are seniors.
C-  Ryan Ehrets
S-  Mark Zazarro
DL- Daniel Gioioso
LB- Colin Lama
QB- Will Bellamy

All but the underappreciated Zazzaro have been First Team All Liberty League selections...Of note: Lama and Gioisso were high school teammates at Xaverian Brothers, Ct.(nice get by the Union staff)

Let's hope we see these five on the field this fall.

FIRE THE CANNON

Minor detail but Xaverian is in Massachusetts (less than a mile from my house in fact).

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: March 29, 2020, 10:15:39 am »
Since we all have time I thought I'd present this:  In 1983 the Union College Dutchmen met Augustana, Illinois in the Stagg Bowl for the National Championship. The game was part of Wide World of Sports on ABC. The video and sound are excellent.

To view the First half...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yC3Qj5QcVs

And the Second...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcNkEIOjP4c

Union held a 10-7 halftime lead but Augustana went on to win 21-17. the first of their four straight championships.

Watching now.  Union's I formation versus the Wing T of Augustana.  Union goes up 10-0 early.

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https://www.uscgasports.com/sports/fball/2019-20/releases/20200322lbm9x0

USCGA names CC Grant as the new head football coach.

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The email from the Midd Administration:

Spring Athletic Events and Practices: Effective 10 p.m. tonight, we are suspending all spring athletic activities, including practices and home and away games, until further notice.

No College-Sponsored Travel: Effective immediately, there will be no college-sponsored travel of any kind, including trips by athletic teams and clubs; faculty and staff in-person participation in conferences; and other engagements.

No Visitors: Effective immediately, no visitors, including prospective students, alumni, speakers, job applicants, performing artists, or members of the larger community will be permitted on campus. To the extent possible, visits and meetings will need to be conducted remotely.

That last one is a bit of a challenge.  Let's say you have a kid at Midd with no car, and you need to fetch them so they can spend the rest of the academic year on the sofa in your basement.  Yet you are not allowed to set foot on campus to retrieve Junior or Missy and all their accoutrement.

I went over and saw the 2nd quarter of the Tufts/Ithaca lacrosse game.  First off this was one of the worst beatings I have ever seen a lacrosse team take.  Tufts had 100 ****ing shots in the game and won 17/18 faceoffs in the first half.   I have no idea why Ithaca even schedules Tufts because in the last few years I don't think Ithaca has won a faceoff when it matters.  The poor Ithaca goalies are punished every time they play.

Anyway, I didn't feel like talking to anyone but saw an Ithaca tweet after the game that said this was probably Tufts last game for the season.  Just seems kind of drastic imo.  I get the logistics of a college being able to service students online just as easy as in person for 2 months, but I think they could have waited a few days/weeks to make a decision on athletics.

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: March 05, 2020, 03:49:42 pm »
I see a Ithaca DC Mike Toerper took a defensive assistant job with Holy Cross.....

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: March 05, 2020, 08:57:06 am »
He’s talking about Utica beating them at “home” aka on Cornell’s field turf stadium

Swanstrom's offense certainly looks better on field turf, but I wonder if there was still a slight competitive advantage to the home team on grass.  I know the visiting players felt a big difference.

Yea he seems to be for it. I think in general spread teams simply do better on turf.  And it seems to run mostly 10 personell spread with no fullbacks, TE's or H backs for the most part.

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East Region football / Re: FB: Liberty League
« on: March 04, 2020, 02:27:01 pm »
Wasn't there an ECAC game that had to be moved?

Yea that's what I guessed but wasn't 100% sure. 

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