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Messages - Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

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The folks who are doing the Greenville broadcasts are a group of sports announcers that are more interested in calling games than using the latest technology, if I understand the business correctly.  They have been calling local high school games for years.

Why do schools with small audiences use a pay service rather than streaming on YouTube?

Sometimes the streaming comes integrated into other software - like stats packages, etc.

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Great Lakes Region / Re: MIAA
« on: February 25, 2021, 09:34:52 am »
Heck of a defensive battle in Angola tonight with Hope up 24-20 at the half. Not sure who the commentators are (I assume students) but they need to work on at least feigning a little impartiality, or at the very least stop complaining about every call.

I don't mind a homer broadcast, but when your standard call for a missed shot is, "it's up and... oh man, no foul call," it gets a little old after a while. Still, if the pbp guy is a student, I'm impressed.

He did a great job of keeping up with the ball movement and was right on with the players etc. That part was well done indeed. At one point I was wondering if they were just so caught up in the game they forgot they were broadcasting- but then one of them we use their “monster truck rally announcer voice”.

I like announcers who seem like they're having fun.  I'm willing to forgive a few moments where they take it too far.  A little more variety in vocabulary and little less talking over each other.  It's WAY better than most student broadcasts out there.

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Great Lakes Region / Re: MIAA
« on: February 25, 2021, 06:54:31 am »
Heck of a defensive battle in Angola tonight with Hope up 24-20 at the half. Not sure who the commentators are (I assume students) but they need to work on at least feigning a little impartiality, or at the very least stop complaining about every call.

I don't mind a homer broadcast, but when your standard call for a missed shot is, "it's up and... oh man, no foul call," it gets a little old after a while. Still, if the pbp guy is a student, I'm impressed.

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Mid-Atlantic Region / Re: Landmark Conference
« on: February 24, 2021, 02:50:08 pm »

Ryan:
Perhaps not an embarrassing loss but, not a good look either.
I remember the days when Wilkes would go on their Bible belt tour to start their season.
They'd open up with Lancaster Bible, Baptist Bible, Valley Forge Bible & win by 40 each game.
I'm sure there is more competitiveness now than a decade ago but still the optics are not good.

No personal offense to any of you, but Landmark fans seem to be about a decade behind in coming to grips with the current state of basketball in the conference.  There's a history and prestige that just, frankly, isn't reflected in reality.  It's a difficult spot to be in, for sure, but perhaps the expectations for the Landmark need to be toned down a bit?

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Great Lakes Region / Re: MIAA
« on: February 24, 2021, 10:24:23 am »
Anecdotally, as I've talked to coaches and players this year, it seems there are clear trend lines: male players seem eager to do whatever it takes to come back (on the whole, not universally), while female players seem much more content to move on to whatever is next.

I feel like this is pretty true typically. It seems the average male player, basketball has been a big part, or even the primary part, of their identity since middle school. And for the most part, their female counterparts tend to be much more well rounded. For whatever cultural reason, a parent is much more likely to introduce their son as, "This is my son _____, he plays bball for Hope!" and their daughter as, "This is my daughter _______, she is a Civil Engineering major and Spanish minor at Hope. And she made dean's list and has a job lined up already for when she graduates. Oh, and she starts on the basketball team!"

I also wonder, especially for the very best male players, if there isn't some underlying thought in their minds, "if I could just get the right break, I could catch on a pro in Europe somewhere."  Women players are almost never thinking that way.

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Mid-Atlantic Region / Re: Landmark Conference
« on: February 24, 2021, 10:19:16 am »

Lancaster Bible is not a terrible team this year.  They're obviously not world beaters, but they go 12 deep with a lot of seniors.  I was just telling someone the other day I'd expect them to be on par with whoever wins the Landmark this season.  That was certainly a winable game for Moravian, but I don't think it's an embarrassing loss.

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Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« on: February 24, 2021, 10:15:20 am »
Wouldn’t take it to seriously coming from you. Hopes been dealing with their own doctrinal decay for about 20 years now.

That's good, because I wouldn't have said it in a serious manner. Not really of the opinion that the MIAA Men's Basketball thread is the appropriate forum for theological debate.

Beyond the theological merits, it's a real concern for a lot of schools.  I went to Eastern Nazarene College, which is a denominational-affiliated school as well.  There's a real tension between what parents want out of their child's religious education and what the students want that's putting a lot of pressure on enrollment and administration.

The schools trying to hold together a robust educational experience and a conservative-leaning theological tradition are really struggling.  You make the joke, but there's a lot of parents who'd rather send their kid to Liberty and know for sure what's being taught than "risk" their kid being exposed to a wider range of ideas and perhaps choosing something the parents wouldn't approve of.

You don't have to get into the rights and wrongs of each approach to recognize its existence and the genuine problems it creates for schools.

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Great Lakes Region / Re: MIAA
« on: February 22, 2021, 10:07:45 am »
Wondering how many, if any, of Hope's 9 seniors intend to use the extra year of eligibility and return next season.

(I took more than 4 years to graduate personally, so I gotta think maybe 1 out 9 might be on the 5 year plan as well?)

Not to ruin the surprise, but there's an article heavily featuring the Hope wbb team coming out on your favorite Division III basketball news site in the next day or two.  The official word is, essentially, you never know what will happen, but they don't anticipate any of the seniors being back.


Anecdotally, as I've talked to coaches and players this year, it seems there are clear trend lines: male players seem eager to do whatever it takes to come back (on the whole, not universally), while female players seem much more content to move on to whatever is next.

Unless they were already planning to take a fifth year or had grad school at the same school lined up already, I'm not sure I've spoken to a single senior female who's changing plans to use that extra year.

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West Region / Re: MBB: American Rivers Conference
« on: February 19, 2021, 08:56:26 pm »
Ok, the version of Caltech who lost 200+ straight.

There was a pop-up game in the ARC last night:  Loras 84 Wartburg 80  This one was close to the end. Neither team shot it well, and frankly I'm surprised Loras wasn't able to pull away on their home court. Wartburg got 56 points off the bench to nearly pull the upset.

UD appears to be on pause, nothing slated for this weekend.  Fingers crossed that the league can get and stay healthy enough to close out the season and have a tournament.

Is it a "pop up" game if it was just rescheduled from the night before?

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Atlantic Region / Re: Atlantic East Conference
« on: February 19, 2021, 08:52:22 pm »
LBC was my first thought. They're not all that different than Wesley, size wise, plus they won't have football in another conference driving the ship.

1100 enrollment is not that small for d3.

The 1100 is the total enrollment for all 4 of their campuses (and includes graduate students). The undergraduate enrollment at the Lancaster campus is in the mid-500's.

That's not what their website says: https://www.lbc.edu/about/quick-facts/

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Great Lakes Region / Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« on: February 19, 2021, 07:39:10 am »
The RCA vs CRC era may be coming to an end in the near future one way or another.  The RCA will not be the same as we’ve known it within the next couple years, so there may be uncertainty regarding Hope’s affiliation.  Looking down the road several years there will probably be a similar issue in the CRC.  Will be interesting to see what course the administrations at Hope and Calvin choose to take over these next few years

Hope has in many ways been defining themselves in a more non-denominational tone for a while now. If you read through their mission, vision, core values, etc. you'll see many mentions of "Christian faith", a few mentions of "Reformed tradition", and have a very difficult time finding any mention of the RCA.

Calvin's affiliation as a member of the CRC is a different story. The CRC as a whole helps fund both Calvin Sem AND Calvin University through ministry shares. In 2020, $31.92 of every $346.48 given to the CRC through ministry shares went straight to Calvin University. To be clear, these numbers are only a small fraction of Calvin's overall operating cost. Nevertheless, it's millions of dollars annually.
Only approximately 30% of students at Calvin now come from CRC churches.  Calvin now gives a $4000 Legacy scholarship to any students from a CRC church or children of alumni.

Ministry shares is also changing so we will see what effect this has on Calvin down the road, but the number Calvin gets from ministry shares will be going down.

I'm guessing that there are a lot of small colleges and universities with strong ties to a parent denomination that can tell a similar tale. North Park, which is and always has been subsidized by the Evangelical Covenant Church (which owns NPU), has gone from having an undergraduate student population that was 40% Covenant in the late '80s to a current undergraduate student population that is only 13% Covenant.

This is absolutely the trend across most denominationally affiliated schools.

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Atlantic Region / Re: Atlantic East Conference
« on: February 19, 2021, 07:35:44 am »
LBC was my first thought. They're not all that different than Wesley, size wise, plus they won't have football in another conference driving the ship.

1100 enrollment is not that small for d3.

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Mid-Atlantic Region / Re: Landmark Conference
« on: February 16, 2021, 05:29:57 pm »
Can we all agree Masks on the court are useless? Masks need to be worn properly and obviously through the course of 40 minutes, that doesn't happen. I am all for masks on the sidelines, but on the court makes little to no sense.

My observation has been that it depends on how much the player wants to wear their mask properly. Most do not, but if you stumble upon the rare player wearing a mask on the court when it's not required, they have no real problem keeping it in place. 

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Atlantic Region / Re: Atlantic East Conference
« on: February 16, 2021, 07:53:36 am »
AEC is going to have an AQ problem in two years unless they find a better solution than sitting on the cutline: https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2021/02/delaware-state-pulls-plug-on-wesley

Yeah. ..That's going to be an issue. With this pandemic going on and the current state of athletics because of the virus. Who's going to move to the AEC?

They'll find someone if they get desperate enough.  The problem will be whether they really want whoever is willing to come.

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Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Top 25 talk
« on: February 13, 2021, 10:19:47 pm »

Yeshiva looked quite rusty, but performed as expected.  The second half was a lot better than the first.  They're going to need some more conditioning and the execution on both ends of the floor was sloppy.  They looked darn good, though.  It seems Turell has bulked up a bit since March, which is really just unfair.  There's quite a cavalcade of newcomers on the bench with interesting stories.  There shouldn't be any problem slotting these guys in very near the top of the poll this week.

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