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Mid-Atlantic Region / Re: Landmark Conference
« on: Today at 12:24:59 am »
Goucher beat Catholic in what Ryan Scott now dubs the Derby (I like the description) ... 86-70, but it was FAR closer than that. Goucher happened to hit a couple of late shots they normally miss badly.

Nice way to close out my 25th season as PA Announcer for Goucher.

Manchester and Merseyside are going to have to make room for a third major Derby!!

You may have just said the one thing to unite Arsenal and Spurs fans.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: Yesterday at 08:05:53 pm »

You did two Round 17s, Bob.  Even you don't have Augustana in.

Northeast Region / Re: MBB: NEWMAC
« on: Yesterday at 08:01:07 pm »

Ross also went over 2500 career points tonight.  He's just 110 away from Joey Flannery.  Very possible.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2020 NCAA Tournament
« on: Yesterday at 04:43:48 pm »
Yep ... that is possible ... and likely NWU headed to St. Thomas or WashU the second weekend (assuming all things equal; no major upsets).

This is the nitty-gritty I promised I wouldn't get into yet, but: likely the NWU pod will be paired with the WashU pod, especially if Whitworth is involved, since you're likely going to have to pull a team (like Centre or Wittenberg) from farther east to St. Louis the first weekend, and you'd want to match your pods with potential second weekend flights together to prevent needing two.

Oof ... okay... I can't remember the NCAA language, but that doesn't sound familiar.

Still ... interesting.

The NCAA QOWI was all based on winning percentage, which wouldn't apply to tied teams in a conference.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2020 NCAA Tournament
« on: Yesterday at 04:37:18 pm »
Men have the priority this year in the first week.  Second week women but not sure how that will be impacted on the men's side with it only being a solo game.

Also, I would imagine the committee will attempt to put host pods that are within 500 miles of each other adjacent to one another in the bracket to try to cut down on the amount of flights prior to the Final 8 games in Fort Wayne (I.E. Nebraska Wesleyan and St. Thomas probably will be next to each other in the bracket).  I would also imagine they will put Emory and a potential Texas pod adjacent to one another in the bracket to guarantee one flight comes out of that group of 8 teams.

If the season ended today (qualifier), here are possible 16 host sites (obviously each of these schools would have to put in a bid to

I'm no expert in geography, but I'm guessing you're going to need another central team hosting. Platteville is on the far southwestern part of Wisconsin. There's no host team to satisfy northern Illinois or eastern Wisconsin. I would think if NCC wins the CCIW AQ, they could host or, gulp, SNC. I do suppose it depends on how may CCIW and WIAC teams get in.

Obviously a lot to still play and who knows what teams win their Pool A bid, but every team that is either currently winning their conference or Pool C top 20 (according to @D3Bubble) can get to Neb Wesleyan, St Thomas, Platteville or Wash U.

Per Neb. Wesleyan: Benedictine, Elmhurst, St. Norbert, and none of the UW's can get to NWU. I know you said "or," but there are only a few that are going to be able to get to NWU. That either will either hamper the committee's ability to split teams up especially for possibly second weekend games ... or keep them from sending NWU to very many places.

FYI - North Central is 499 miles from NWU; Benedictine is 502!

If the final rankings look like the current rankings, you'd probably see either NCC or Whitworth (if there are three Texas teams in) going to NWU.

General Division III issues / Re: Future of Division III
« on: Yesterday at 04:28:14 pm »
“When I say Gonzaga, what do you think of?” she [Lynn Hickey, EWU AD] asked, alluding to the success of the Zags basketball team.

"When I say EWU, what do you think of?"
"Emu?   Like the flightless bird?"
"No, EWU, the university."
"EWU who?  I don't know any EWU."
"Eastern Washington University."
"There's a school in Eastern Washington?   Wow, is there a WWU, too?"

Seriously, I wonder how that 10% from alumni/ticket sales compares to other lesser D1 institutions.   I imagine it's not that far from most of the rest.

Bigger schools have TV revenue to make up for it, though.

Northeast Region / Re: MBB: NESCAC
« on: Yesterday at 04:18:53 pm »
The Colby/Babson/St. Joseph (CT)/Amherst grouping is very interesting.

I agree that if St. Joseph (CT) loses in the GNAC final they'll probably be left out. I can't see them passing Colby no matter what happens on Saturday.

I think Tufts has a better resume and a head to head win, thus is ahead of Colby.

St Joe's problem are those two non-counting games.  If they were both 21-2, rather than USJ being two wins behind, that's a different story.  A couple mediocre d3 opponents would've improved the SOS, too.

Plus, if Colby ends up with Bates and Williams in the tourney, that's not going to help the SOS all that much.

General Division III issues / Re: Future of Division III
« on: Yesterday at 02:01:16 pm »
As belts tighten,

Eastern Washington University faculty members propose cutting sports to pay for academics

I don't believe athletics should have to cover all their expenses (as they certainly contribute to enrollment just about everywhere), but covering less than 10% of the budget through revenue is a tough sell.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: Yesterday at 01:55:22 pm »
Where's the vrro data for week 2?

If you go to the bottom of the rankings page Dave linked to, there are links for each region.  These contain the raw data for every team.

 Thanks, I know that; I just remember that it was included with the regional rankings listing in past years.

Incidentally, Scranton is listed as 2-1 when it should be 2(Drew, DeSales) - 2(York, Arcadia).

I'm not entirely sure if they use current week rankings until the final one.  Arcadia wasn't ranked last week, so that may be the disparity.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: Yesterday at 01:43:43 pm »
I posted this in another chat room, but figured it was worth posting here as well. Just a reminder of how the vRRO data is used moving forward:

vRRO Data
Week 1- none -
Week 2Week 1
Week 3Week 2
FinalWeek 3
Finale/SelectionsWeek 3 & Final

So how does that last one work? Do they make that fourth set of rankings, then adjust vRRO and reconsider? I know they have to cut it off at some point, but that almost reads like a vicious cycle of compute-rank-recompute-rerank.

I don't think they entirely re-rank, they just look at the rankings again with the new vRRO to double check no adjustments are needed.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: Yesterday at 01:43:08 pm »
Where's the vrro data for week 2?

If you go to the bottom of the rankings page Dave linked to, there are links for each region.  These contain the raw data for every team.


SNC getting crushed for losing to BenU that first game of the season.  Every game counts.

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: Pool C
« on: Yesterday at 01:09:05 pm »
So, why is it that the NCAA doesn't respond to their constituency in this regard(how the SOS is computed and why this method as opposed to some other algorithm)?

You are assuming someone has asked them ... they respond to members, but we don't know if any membership has raised the issue officially.

The committee has to have at least inquired, right?  They seem very concerned with doing their job to the best of their abilities.  If it's an issue of implementation over statue, shouldn't they have some leeway on how the math is done?

Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2020 NCAA Tournament
« on: Yesterday at 01:06:53 pm »
First WeekendSecond Weekend
Even YearsMen HostWomen Host
Odd YearsWomen HostMen Host

Alright, misogyny it is.

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